Virginia Argus. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1796-1816, 1813-06-24


Mr.. Fisk again spoke. The CITIZEN had his
i4shts, be never would deny, bat he also had
his obligations. In the case in question the
INJURY Gone The petitioner was not so unprove-
ksa As gentlemen seem 10 Il, sire 1t should an
pear. Tins person, he had heard, had assert.
ed, IN view oi the enemy, in the midst OF the
soldiers, That the war in which we were engag.
eu Was Unjust and ruinous, and he hoped that
every soldier that entered Canada might be cut
OH! tae gentleman had drawn a distinction
between mob OF soldiers and OF other citizens,
because the government had put arms in the
hands OF the former. The same argument i'm
our country would apply to every citizen, it be.
ing part OF code OF laws, that every citiz-
should have arms placed in his hands.
MT. Bigeow said he apprehended this was
not proper time TO enter into the merits OF
the petition. He rose to show precedent OF re
ference OF such petition, viz. the petition OF
sundry inhabitants of Indiana TERRITORY at the
last session, on which reyort had then been
made that their petition was reasonable and
oush, to granted. In all cases oflawess de-
probation committed by soldiers, the indiyidu.
ais injured ought to be compensated.
oir' Rhea SAID that unquestionably all troops
az the United States ought to be kept in subor-
oinaiion. He knew of a case which had occur.
red IN Tennessee, where certain troops had
committed an outrage. The injured party,
however, did not apply TO the government Tor
rdress' but TO lawyer TO bring suit against the
commanding officer. He did so and obtained
Judgment against him; and in MIR. Rhea's OPT
mon this course ought to be pursued in all
Cases. A different course would open wide
held 10 4 flood of unnecessary petitions
Mr.. Grosvenor said he knew of no reason
which should arrest this petition in the ordna-
~ course proposed TO be given to- it, particu-
i~riy when 1t was proved that one Of simila-
nature had been referred. Upon what ground
1T was objected 10 refer II, he could not con.
celve. Was it, as his colleague appeared to
suggest, because man had taken upon him
selfto use Incorporate expression. in relation
TO the government Will gentlemen suffer the
idea to SO forth, that for the expression of his
opinion, man may lie mobbed and his
house be destroyed with impunity by the mill
t.Tv, or any other mob !--Such doctrine he
knew had been held by some abandoned Der
sons out of the house, but never before heard
nor ever expected to hear il on this hoor. In
temperate expressions OF individuals ought to
have no effect, if these petitions were couched
in decorbus terms.
Mr.. Fisk said the gentlemen was entirely
mistaken if he understood him to mention the
intemperance of the petitioners language
which provoked the riot, as a reason against
The refele OF his pctition his language had
been cited IN reply to the suggestion, that the
X
ed.
The motion to lay the petition on the table
was negatived.
Mr.. Fisk then said it had uniformly been his
opinion, that ali petitions asking for money
should go to the committee of claims He
therefore moved that this petition, instead of
going TO select committee, should be referred
to that committee.
Mir. Fs motion was carried eighty one to
sixty eight.
Mr.. Archer presented the petition of sun.
dry persons in the state of Maryland, PRAYING
that the law extending the patent of Oliver f.
vans to his improvements IN milling. may be
repealed or that he may be restricted to tie
price originally demanded tor the use of his
Baid OBSERVATION-DISCLOSURES 10 select Com
mittee.
Mr., Cheves presented the petition of II
Bryce and Thos. Vincent, praying remission OF
certain penalties incurred snCer the non i'm.
portation act.-Referred TO the Committee OF
Ways and Means.
MIR. Beall presented the memorial offs Va;ia
sycoe and ellison and Jones, praying the paw.
meSt OF bill drawn by one of the Assistant
Or Masters General, payment of which had !
been declined at the .Departments OF War-re-
ferred to the COMMITTEE OF claims.
Some conversation arising on the proper |
mode Of disposing of this petition
The Speaker observed, more as he said by |
way OF suggestion than TO lay down rule, that |
debate on the merits of petitions, arising on |
the question o. their reference, was irregular
md ought TO be avoided, as unnecessarily CON,
uming the time of the House; as had been IL, |
ustrated in case which had this day occur.
ed.
message was received from the Senate an,
'rizing the House other agreement to its a.
nendment to the bill for the relief of Alexsn-
Ter Phoenix.
FRENCH DEGREES.
The House assumed the consideration ofth
esClutions moved by Mr. Webster, calling for
PARTICULAR information on the subject of the do.
umenls purporting TO be repeal of the de-.
rees of Berlin and Milan.
The debate cofytieued with a warmth eousl
, that with which it commenced yesterday; g.
he House sat TO the usual hour without having
lken any question affecting the resolutions .
he debates, we have before stated, will be
ublished hereafter.
FRIDAY, June IS.
A bill was received from the Senate fur
Ter to extend the time for issuing and To-
ating military land warrants. The billwas
vice read and on motion Of Mr. Mckee.
was read third time and passed.
The House resumed the consideration of
ir Webster's resolutions respecting the
rench repeating decree; the debate
hereon continued to the usual hnur of ad
without coming to any decis.