Virginia Argus. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1796-1816, 1812-04-16
NEw-YoRx, April 8.
ORDERS IN COUNCIL

In the British House of Commons, March 81
Mr. Brougham, in consequence Of previous no.
tice, moved, :" That a select committee be ap-
| pointed for the purpose of taking into conside-
| ration the present state of the commerce and
| manufactures of the country, particularly with
| reference to the orders in council, and the Ii
cense trade"
| This motion produced very warm debate,
in which, relative to America, it was observed
by
| Mr.. Brougham, that the present system of
retaliation, as it was called, was a system of
| hostilities to commerce, wish to sacrifice the
| trade OF France to the destruction of the trade
OF England Bonapartc was at war with COM
| merce, he hated every thing favorable TO the
world, and esteemed nothing but that which
favored the power he had usurped-Bonaparte
and his minister presented nothing but CON-
pound of villainy and fraud to the world He
asked, what system ought England to pursue ?
| 1t ought to be their object to encourages COM
| inerce and the trade of neutras, not with the
neutrals most contiguous to France, but those
| separated from her by the ocean, impossible to
her, owning the same interests, and speaking
the same language with England, and being the
only nation, beside ourselves, in which free
dom could be found. He regretted that he had
heard, on late OCCASION. that the hopes of
successful issue with that power were repre-.
sented as slender. Mr.. B. then went into a cal.
cuiation ofthe losses which England sustains
by her Orders in Council.
Mr.. Rose followed, and replied to Mr. b. &
pointed out many of his errors in calculation
But, he did not wish to be understood as being
indifferent with respect to connection with
the United States-the interests of the two ma
tons were closely connected, but it was too
much to expect that England should allow A.
merica to treat her in amanner different from
all other countries. He asked, what had been
the origin of the orders in council France
said there should be no trade to England. Our
answer, was, (Which we had the power to en-
force) that nothing should go to France, which
did not come from hcrto England. We had a
right to say to neutrals, that if they tolerate
the regulation OF one of the belligerents, in-
mIcai to our commercial interest, they must
tolerate regulation on our part in defence of
these interests. Nothing hostile was intended
against America. The conduct of France to-
wards America had been infinitely more hostile
than that of England On tins subject Mr.. II.
went into particulars. Were the Orders in
Council and the Licenses abolished, said he,
then indeed the country would return to that
system OF naturalization under which periuries
were so frequent. The system of the govern
nent was ono OF self-defence they had no al
tentative between having recourse to it or the
entire remuneration Of trade He then contras-
ted the annual income of France and England,
~ shO" tue cneCJ OF inc OfucrS IN Council,
which left the balance in favor of England of
twelve millions per aunum.
Mr.. Canning, Mr.. Barring. and Mr.. WILDER
force, spoke in favor of the motion, which was
opposed by Mr.. Stevens and Mr.. Marryat
MIR Perceval declared the Orders in Coun-
cilwere issued in consequence of a declaration
made by France, that VIC should have no trade
with any nation on earth It was then ncces.
sary for Us TO declare, that France should not
trade with any in the world except us-(hear,
hear) lie SAID the distresses of the country
were not owing to the Orders in Council. II
was clear, which he proved, that France had
been materially injured by them. IL posi-
tiysly denied the repeal Of the Berlin and Nj
Ian DEGREES. It had been merely stated, that
they would cease 70 operate, provided Great
Britain gave up her Orders in Council, or A.
merica consented 10 defend her rights, aud TO
take care that her ships should be no longer
dcnationalised.
Mr.. Whitbread declared the speech Of the
| Chancellor Of the Excbeqaer was calculated
merely to mislcad the House Mr.. w. warmly
supported the motion.