The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1812-08-11

O~"'" .NhciiSd WhCIC ttey were not wan
ted. The orders i'm Council were not issued
against America, but against the common e
nemy; and the circumstances of our hav-
/ ing gained great successes in the peninsula,
! was no reason why we should give them up.
ms argument might be good one if we
| were at war with America, but would give
incalcnlable advantage to the enemy He
was AFRAID, that the gentlemen TO whom he
was addressing himself were not fully &C
! qua'hted with the facts detailed in the evi-
dencr He should, therefore, trespass some
time on the house, by going over several
passages in the evidence. He could assure
the house, that he had no particular interest
IN defending the orders in council. He was
not the author of them, nor was he likely to
confuse long in the situation he then held
and from which he was called upon to adj
dress the house upon subjects of this nature.
ne beheved in his conscience, that if the
orders were repealed tomorrow, that e.
vent would not eflectually relieve the dis
tresses of the manufacturers. Some of the
iaborers might find immediate employment,
| put that employment would not continue
aere the right hon. gentleman went over
several passages, in the printed evidence,
In order to shew that the Americans could
| get many articles of manufacture on the
continent, such as linens, iron-w ware, &c.
moch cheaper than they could from us &
ne produced paper published in 1906,
winch stated that in consequence of the
cheap price paid for labor ON the continent,
! compared to the labor in England, the PEG
pie on the continent could undersell us i'm all
the articles OF ironware. He would therefore
put 1t to the house, whether the repeal of
the orders In Council, while the French de-
crees remained in force, would not be Civ
ing encouragement to the manufacturers of
germany and France to the injury of our
own No doubt there had been great re-
, ductlon or wages in the manufacturing dis
tf!cts but no conclusion as to the future
price OF our iticles could be drawn from this
He declared he should be ready most ccrdi-
ally to support any measures thst might
tend to relieve the distressed manufacturers :;
out he did not see how it was possible that
inc measures now recommended could do
| so. The whole of the evidence went t.
prove, that the Americans could undersell
US IN the South American markets in most
| ~ our manufactures which they could pro
| cure on the continent Of Europe, if the or
ders in council were repealed; and how,
therefore, could such a repeal relieve us ?
1t the French DEGREES remain in force. he
commended the americans could supply
france with every article which it was out
OF her power now to obtain. America would
supply France with raw materials in an a
bundance. on. which she now had to nav
from 90 to 20, per cent. Mr. Rose next
came to that, part of the evidence which
related to the town of Liverpool, in order to
! shew that the town was not in the distressed
state that had been asserted. He Quoted
/ the statement of one person, WHO SAID that
several ships were at that tine Building
there. lie also read over other evidence.
which stated that the Mediterranean trade
was iiourishing very rapidly, & was carried
on III British slipping. The South Americar
trade, 1t likewise appeared, was increasing.
IN consequence OF the orders in council. AS
20 the shipping interest, lie commended that
the Americans would, tomorrow take away
one third of the carrying trade, now carried
on IN British ships, if the orders in conncil
were repealed, and the French DEGREES in
force.-And he would put it TO the house
| whether q maritime country that depended
Tor her existence On navy, ought to give up
any part of such an advantage. The French
| formerly had considerable trade to Souta
America which thsy had since entirely lost
L his trade they could revive, were Ameri-
cans allowed to go and carry away their
commodities The right hon. gentleman
read certain documents to shew that we
gained as much by our trade now to the
south OF Europe as we had lost by the shut
ting OF the northern ports against us. 40
TO the orders themselves, it wasby no means
the unanimous opinion of the merchants OF
this country, that they were detrimental 70
our commerce, for. four ffths CT the mer-
chants OF Glasgow we're of opinion that they
i should not be repealed the merchants Of
Bristol were Unanimous in that opinion, and
those of London, with the exception of very
few, said the same. When so large and
respectable body were of opinion, some OF
them. that the fepealing of these orders
would be death blow TO the commerce Of
tie country, and others that Il would be
highly detrimental to it, he felt some conso
latlc4 in the srdgous duty he had to perform.
Couid 1t be successfully shcwn, that the ma
ton would Benefit by the repeal, he would
feel mGch satisfaction and pleasure in cen-
sehVng to the measure; but until that hap
pened, he would remain firm in the belief,
chat It was necessary for the well-beiug x
prosperity OF the country that tdey should
be continued
0Ir. Bzring feared from the sort of at
tcntion which hon. members seemed to give
this subject. it was not likely to receive so
much consideration as its Importance de
served. 1T was not, however, his intention
TO 80 through ihe evidence as the right hon
gentleman lad done, for unless gentlemen
HAD perused it At Zone, it would be imros-
sib'e for him to Empress upon them irue
! sense ct It's extreme importance. These
, orders had existed for several years. dnrip,-
? which time there had been various opinicnS
respecting it, and now we were arrived ~
state Of unexampled distress, II would
. therefore he first 20 be enquired whether
that diefrpp ,uoc l..