Virginia Argus. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1796-1816, 1811-08-01

HeVe IN Reconsideration. Lord yelling
ton, who had carried the glory of tile British
arms to such an height, was an Irishman.
Marshal Beresford, who had served with
such honor and distinction under him, In
Portugal, was an irishman. And that gall
iant oihccr, whose name was ever found con-
nected with feats of enterprise and military
pyewess, general Pack, was also an freshman.
tthey gallant officers had happened to be-
eeve iA an$nbstantiation, their eminent SER
flccS wotadfhav been lost to the country.
the natic1{might have persisted in such a
case, II tSfents such as they possessed were
necessary to preserve it, had they been Ca
tholics, and that glorious host OF Irishmen
whom his gallant friend behind him had emu
merated. If any Of those gallant officers
should return TO the Catholic religion, would
the right hon. gentleman deprive them of
their command? The hon. Member then
indicated the measure of Lord Howicks:
and contended that the measure Of the right
honorable gentleman for the interchange of
the militlas the two countries was an ex-
tension OF that measure. He denied that any
thing was asked at once for the Catholics,
or any thing by the two great leaders in the
house OF lords (Grcenville and Grey OF by
the two great leaders in that house (Ponson-
by and Grattan) without restrictions and Sc
mended strongly an arrangement resDecting
tythes IN ireland; and after taking a review
OF stte arguments on the other side, and ami
m1tvertng upon the doctrines held by the
Ctancsllsr 81 the Exchequer that night res
PeStins the disposition of the people Of this
Country tseresist the grant of the claims of
the Catholics, he adverted to the thanks
which he had thought, had been preciptately
gwen TO that right hon. gentleman for his not
haying given his support TO the dissenters'
bill IN the house of lords. The hon. gentle
man concluded very able and animated
speech (Which want Of room prevents us
from doing any justice to- by saying, that he
sincerely hoped, that the trumpet sounded by
the right hon. gentleman this night would
not be attended to by the people, and that
no other internal cry could be raised with "a
ny nope OF success in this country.
The Chancellor IF the Erchequer, in ex-
plantation denied that he had said that the
people or this country would resist the act
OF the legislature, if it should think proper
to grant tie claims of the Catholics ; still
more, that he should encourage such resis-
lance. With respect to tythes, what he
said was, that if the Catholics should obtain
their present claims they would then look to
participation of the church revenues, whe-
ther consisting of tythes or of any other pro-
Mr.. ". s&ith stated, that he had thank
ed the Chapeellor of the Exchequer, because
he had reason to know, that before the de-
claration of the opinion of the dissenters up
on the subject, that right hon. gentleman had
determined not to support the bill of the no
bic lord in the house.
Mr.. WIit6read thought the thanks deser-
we'd, and retracted what he had before said
on the subject.
MIR. Stefhen commented, in severe terms,
upon Mr.. Withdrawals sentiments He de-
clared the federation, which he had panegy-
rised III France, tobe nothing but a mixture of
despotism and hypocrisy; but indeed, he be-
iieved that there was no measure of Bona
parties of which the hon. gentleman would
not be the apoiogist or advocate. "a loud
cry at order, take dogvn the 7rords.
Mr.. Whu6read--"T The words impute to
me such degree of criminality, that / must
| insist on their being taken down."
and 4 ,ssEs ysrds were repeated to the Clerk,
Hhe%SFeaker.-The next step is to have
thfwohsread, in order that the hon. gentle
man to &hopi they are imputed may deny
or justify item.
The words were here read.
MIR. Steflhen--"I might have used the
words which preceded those, but do not re-
collect those which followed"
The Sheaker-"T The next course is to di-
vide the house on the question, whether the
words were used or not. Does the honora-
Die member persist in that determination .'
Mr.. Whtbread.-I have considered that
as the offence was public insult to the
house, ought to demand their apology here
rather than elsewhere. (EIcar, hear! am
so far satisfied, and do not believe that the
hon. member meant the words in the full ex-
tent to which they might be imputed
MIR. Stefthen--"I really uttered the ex-
preston, which | did, hastily, in consequence
| OF the irritation of the moment, at as tho't
the unfounded and unwarrantable imputati-
on cast on my right Hon. Friend"
| MIR. Vhit6read--" Does the hon. member
m2fh to say, that am an enemy to my coun-
EA&chien--"F Far from it 1 believe the
hon, gfhtleIean to be as warm friend to the
couAtry ssPany man can be-
The Sneaker" This business is now at
an end"
The cry of question here became very ge-
neral
Mr.. GraHan rose. cit necessary for me
TO trouble the house with few observations
on what has fallen from the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. He has said that have chang
cd my intentions since last year on this sub
ject. He has totally mistaken and fouIly
| misrepresented me. Ihave made no change
i am more a friend TO the Cathoiics fba, 4 q