The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1809-04-18

much had been offered to England and little
to France.
BY listening to the offer in August last, En-
f, gland might have secured two advantages
the repeal of the Embargo, and the next to
a certainty, of having America as an ally in
the war against France; while France. in
the FIRST instance, had the offer of but one
advantage; these were considerations which
he could not too strongly recommend to the
serious attention of their Lordships Let the
offer of America in August last, be candidly
considered. Let the advantages of embra
cling it, aud the evils that must result from
| rejectingit it, be maturely weighed. This was
the great object he had in view: and To
which he must again implore the serious at
tention Of their lordships. In order to attain
that object, he should now move an humble
address to- his majesty, the drift of which was
to pray his majesty would be sraciouslv
pleased. while the door for negotiation was
still open, to adopt such measures as mirht
tend to restore our wonted relations with A.
merica, and re establish the former footing
of our commercial intercourse with that
country. The Address moved by the Noble
Lord was very long, and refers to most of the.
! transactions which have taken place between
| this country and America, for the las. two
years
Lord Bathurst answered the Noble mover.
and went into detail of all his arguments :
he contended that the Orders in Council q.
rose of necessity from the French DEGREES.
and said, that SO far from their being the
cause OF the American embargo. that in
| fact the Orders in Council were not known
| in America until the Goth December. and
| before that day the embargo mad taken
place. He next adverted to the accounts
| laid on the table, and insisted that they prov.
ed we had suffered no diminution i'm our re
venue IN consequence OF the Non-Importa-
! ton Act. which was thing totally distinct
from the Embargo with respect to the
| want of flaxseed that the Noble Lord had
stated was an irremediable mischief for the
| linen manufacture OF Ireland it was true
| tnat at the present moment it might occa-
| sion inconvenience, but that would only he
Oh temporary pressure, for large quantities
were raised IN our own settlements i'm North
America; but at present 1t was frozen nm
| IN the river st Laurence, and could nor -
rive until June, which certainly would he
| TOO late tor the present sowing season. II
| was, however, an evil not likely to recur
because, in addition to this supply. larry
tracts in Ireland were now sown with seed
designed purposely for future sowinps II
would also appear, by reference to the pa
PeTs before the Rouse that although, in
consequence OF the Embargo, and the ports
oeing smut In the Baltic, that the imDorta-
| ton from them had been but small VET I'm
| counterbalance it, we had imported from
| our own Colony of Canada, more of timber
lumber, and all those articles which we n.
we sualy obtained from the closed ports. than
had before imported from those states. This
| ne need not say, was one ADVANTAGE ari
sing from the Embargo, as it led us to inn
prove our own resources, and rendered us
independent. His Lordship then adyerted
to the justice and expectancy of the Orders.
and urged, that they were perfectly accor
ding to the law OF nations, and that il was
the necessary consequence of the state of
| WARFARE that neutrals must suffer in the
enjoyment of their Commerce. when the;r
neighbors were engaged in warfare.
Lord Sidmouth defended the legality of
the Order of the 9TH of January 1909 wb;ch
related to the coasting trade, which he said
neutral had no right to carry on for tbe
benefit OF one OF the belligerents, at the ex.
pence OF the other. For neutral Gould ac.
qulre no new rights by the state of war
| and that was trade which i'm peace he
| could not pursue. BUT he insisted that :,
new ara arose in the question when the
Americans offered to rescind their Fmbar
| so, with respect to us, and continue il only
with respect to France, if we would aban
don our orders IN Council he thought then
"eNa"c VIC uuty OF tn1S country to at
tempt conciliation, and to that pacific nro-
position, we ought to assume suitable lis
position to Cancellation. He insisted that
as it was not done, Ministers had shewo q
hostile disposition, and, therefore. he con-
| Cured in the motion of his hon. friend.
Lord Melville said he should not intrude
upon their lordship's time but he wished to
observe, that the question seemed to be
wholly misunderstood, both by the noble mo
yer and the noble Vscount {Sdmouth) The
one said that his object was to discuss the
entire merits of the case the other, that he
was desirous of submitting to the notice of his
majesty, the distrust he felt of the persons at
the head OF government; the former alludinp
to the transactions, and the latter to those
who were concerned in conducting them
He Qord Melvile) should have thought il
more manly to have taken direct course.
instead of attempting to pass a vote of cen.
sure thus blended, in which the real design
was rendered obscure. He resisted this adj
| dress, because it was an unnecessary inter-
position OF the house, during negotiation
now pending with the United States. Other
motives he had for opposing the motion of
the noble baron, which he would briefly ex
plain: the origin Of the orders in council
was the edict of Berlin, which violated all
the maritime rights which had been recor
nized in Europe for centuries. The first
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