The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1809-06-23

to him and to every other member of the House
who had long known that those things were done
and yet never brought it forward to Parliament
. in a proper shape. AS to the case of the Hamp
shire election, the right honorable gentleman
(the chancellor of the exchequcr) happened a.
bout that time, for very short portion of his life
/. to be in minority He (Mr. Whitbread )had been
for nineteen years generally in a minority, and
therefore he was apt to think mn,orities right (;
but the right honorable gentleman who had been
| so seldom in minority in that house, SHOULD
| rather be induced to suspect that he was wrong,
| when he acted so contrary to his usual practice.
WthoAt, however, meaning to arraign any par
icuiar secretary OF The treasury, he would state
generally, that under the present system, all Sc
creta'ies of the treasury find themselves under
the necessity OF acting in this manner, and that
there rs always an open market at the treasury
Tor bargains Of this nature If, however, the house
was disposed to make it nlisdemeanor to traf-
nc an East India writerships and cadetships,
they would certainly take some notice of traf-
nc which was equally notorious, but more scan
dalous and unconstitutional, If the right honor
able gentleman would appeal to his noble neigh
Dor (Lord Castlereagh,) that noble lord would
inform him, that in Ireland, about a million and
halfhad been paid Cor the purchase of boroughs,
which was, decisive proof that those things
were considered as moneys worth, as market
able commodity. 1t was impossible for him not
to know that the practice which had prevailed
so prevailed in this country. If this practice
was not destroyed, it would be in the end des-
troy.us AS to the tale of Judiciary situations,
ne did not pretend to say that it affected the pe
hey OF the administration, but he would still say
that 1T was an anomaly, which should be remov-
ed: 1t would be easy to place the fees of their
offices in general fund, for increasing the sala
RES OF the judges. He agreed perfectly with his
honorable friend, (Mr. Creevy) that a dissoluti-
ON OF Parliament, was not an appeal TO the peo
pie but to the treasury. On the last dissolution
MINISTER'S endeavored to set the people mad, and
then talked of appealing 10 their sense. The
sense of the people had certainly some slight I'M
fiuence at a general election but the great pre-
ponderating influence was the influence Of the
treasury;
Mr. WxNNE approved of the principle of abo-
fishing the sale Of judicial offices in the
stated by his honorable friend (Mr. Whitbread.)
lie Gould not, however, approve of the conduct
OF the East India Company in dismissiug persons
who had served them long and well, if it should
be discovered that any thing of money transact
ons had passed at their original appointment, al
though entirely without their knowledge or pri-
witty.
Mr.. H. THORNTON said, that the committee
OF finance had first suggested that tie abolition
OF the sale ofjudcial places precisely in the man
ner mentioned by the honorable member, (Mr.
Whtbread) In their report, they had recon-
mended the applying the fees Of these offices to
a fund to remunerate the judges for any loss they
might sustain.
The bill was then read second time, and or
dered to be committed on Tuesday se'nnight.