The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1808-12-06

''ShusettS INFORMS us that II had Il very Coil
% siderable effect on Great Britain in May or
June last. II 1t has ~ any time had IN eli
feet upon either of tiN bcligerents, it
proves ut least that its ,dvocates did not mis-
calculate rs much as the gentleman from
Cehaecticut would induce the world 10 be-
ic'e. Inc gentlemen have cited Il French
/ expose, 70 prove that the embargo is sppro-
ecu ny that government this document |
nave never seen, and cannot therefore com
| '"ehe on It and the gentleman might have
proved ny ar Canning's letter, thar Great
britain IS not dissatisfied with il. if the sin
cerity OF such declarations is to be conhded-
in
he gentlemen have not explained their
ooject III referring this document was il 20
prove thar At Cid not operate on France. but
ue1 uPoa Great-Britain, or that it had 40
euecS UPON either. IF it vas their des;rn to
prove 1ey t.is document thar France is re-
csneticd to bear the inconveniepces of this
measure herself, OF account OF its more Sc
we're pressure, upon her enemy, which NAV
o y sne farf-.t c:ts.,si,iIc, the very reverse
=. what me gentlemen contcnded for They
ta IA. enoe2'ured to prove that it has had no
effect. nor will have any upon either, WE
nave been told that we have been commap-
ueu ny one power to make war upon the o.
.'er-'hat 1t has been the policy OF both bel
nScrchts 10 draw us into the contest is evil
aent ana 1t our embargo has enabled us to
res.se tncir dictator,al mandates or insie,.ous
pohcy, 1t is fortunate for this country. II
mas oeen SAID that we had as well give I'D
our sh!!s to the enemy rs let them rot in
our liarbors. l think very differently. |
would rather have them sunk in the ocean
tlian give them up to enrich our enemies
mere is something of principle concerned
In TINS: Mr.. Lloyd said he had not expires
seq this idea lie had said that it affected
ING national wealth no more that the vessels
shcuid De lost al sea, than that tiiey should
rot at the wharves. Mr. p. said he consi-
nered the present interest between US and
he ceilgefchts not merely as n question of
ProIt and loss. There was something of
principle honor, and independence 1T stake
ana he WAS not disposed 10 calculate how
much money would be gained By succum-
l5ing to n foreign power. This i, not the
question "ith Congress or the nation. At
-ef me manner ot the gcntlcma from Con-
pecticnt, VINO was fond of illustrating his j.
oeas iiy very familiar examples, viii sup
pose that gentleman was in the habit of deal
ing largely with two merchants, A and b.
thft t"T i"tuI course between tilem was mu-
tuaLy neutrality-suspicious. merchants sud
denly Guarrel-A. tells him he shall nc.
trade with B. and that if he attempts it he
VIII stop by force, and rob him OF what he
may De found carrying to 3. b tells him
ne snail not trade With y. under similar
pans and penalties, unless he will first 90
to IS and purchase OF him licence Co deal
with n. What would the gentleman do? !
presume he would either chastise both for
taelr lnsolcnce and injustice or if that was
not convenient, he would tell them [ will.
rave no intercourse with either OF you.-----.
lie would certainly resist their insolence and
injustice by force; discontinue all intercourse
RI tl,pir
the gentleman in such cas-. calculate WIG
ther 1t would be his interest to submit to
! the uiSgracetul conditions Of i. who Happen
cd To be the stronger Of the two, than bear
the inconveEiences resulting from non-in-
tercourse! Would the gentleman submit tc
disgracetnl conditions Tor the pounds, shil-
lings and pence, he would make by renew
al oi intercourse with them! / presume he
would not. Grcat-Britain and France, in
dehance OF all law. justice and right, have
by their DEGREES and orders, interdicled our
trade to very great extent. Great. Britain
however will permit us to trade. provided
we VIII agree to pay her for the privilege.
NOW, SIR, 1T appears to me that we must re-
Sist her DEGREES and orders b. war, ncn-in-
tercourse, or we must submit. Arc we TO
be told that honor and independence are ont
OF the question, and that we ought TO snb
NIT to dls9raceful conditions for the sake of
ti"ue, because We shall make money by it.
Surely not
However the gentleman from Connecticut
and myself may differ in other respects /
concur with him in opinion, that we have
| nothing to hope from the friendship or ius-
tlce OF the Gelligerents, and that the most
Efficient means of cocrcing them is by one
! rating On thcirinterest. if then his position
be correct that our only means of bringing
'-r'at 1fItAin 60 t~t"'s =, 60 ~Gtct Her III
/ terest, and il it is true, as is generally be-
/ lieved, that our commerce is very adyanta-
/ geous TO Great-Britain, shall we not b. sus-
pending that commerce operate on her in
terest, and will not her Interest induce hcr
to do us justice, III order to renew its The
gentleman from Connecticut has told us TINT
our embargo with the aid OF a non-im-
pcrtation act, would produce 10 effect. be-
cause the West India planters car convert
their sugar plantations into cornfclds. and
that therefore the; could not be starved
Does the gentlemen suppose any man of
common sense eve? believed that this sys-
tenn o. starving, IS it HIS been called, would
destroy tho bCliigerents? No, Sir; it was
expected 70 operate upon their interest, the
only way IN which the gentleman tells us
thcy can be ccerced II, as ;A= gentleman
suppo.cs, the " IS. india Planters Will be
compelled by our embargo 70 employ their
capital and land in the culture Of corn. in
) or,i,r 70 sub1st, vii! they Eot be materially