The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1808-07-26

Wtoliy stopped, OF as Is most likely, brought
hoe. by atircuitous channel. This intel
lgnt witness was then questioned as fol-
lows. and beg your attention, sir, most par
tiQ;arly to it. Suppose that the embargo ia
. America were removed altogether, both as
1t aspects the continent and as it affects this
country, and suppose, that in this case the
OILERS in Council were continued, would YOU
rshme your shipments. i" No." says Mr..
Ball." would not" What! although the en-
ba;go were removed, & although there were
noi,ing TO brighten you in America from
trSiing freely to that country? Certainly
no, because the Orders in Council, by this
lsu,posi,ion, are to be continued; those Or
drs in Council, which are established for
tie purpose OF retaliation upon our enemy,
OF retorting upon him the evils of his own
iiIustice, as the order of the 9TH of January
u cilled this sort of operation, those very Or
tsrs in Council which are made for the pro-
fiction of our trade, because they continue,
am cut out from all traffic What! are
tou to tell us that such would be the conse-
Iluerces of what we, with fostering and lea
tlous care, have. been cnacsing for the very
purpose OF making your commerce sprout
and flourish? Are. you TO tell US that those
Orders in Council actually stop your trade,
suddenly put an end 10 yourcommerce, mer-
cilessly stub it up, though sent down for it's
projections Most unquestionably, says this
witness: If they continue, / can trade none.
may send nay goods to Scotland or to Ire
land or the colonies, but while these Orders
continue in force, cannot possibly trade to
America ;; am locked out, by our own go
vernment, by those means which it has de-
vlsed In Its wisdom Tor my benefit; in it's
bounty, poured down upon me to the num-
Der of some dozen and half and is exc.
cutting with its accustomed vigour, for the
| encouragement of my commerce and navi-
cation. To state what the other witnesses
said upon this subject would be exactly re-
Peating the same words better to refer in
general to those parts of the printed evidence
where 1t is be found, namely the evidence
OF MIR Phillips. in pages IS. Q. Mr. Bell, 81
So Besides these, the testimonies of Mr..
Glennie, Mr. Muiett and Mr. Mann,
may all be referred to for the purpose
of confirming this incontrovertibe PROPOSE
ton, that but for the Orders in Council the
enemy's DEGREES could have had no effect
whatever, but to excite our ridicule. and
that 1t even the American embargo were to
be taken off, your trade would not be revi-
we'd, unless these orders are at the same
thine repealed.
! Now, sir, having finished this part of the
subject, have to request your attention to
another, which is by no means of small inn
port, although it does not refer to that PEE
cuiiar view, or suPposition. upon which
have been arguing. lam to invite your at
tention TO those parts of the evidence which
show that the Orders in Council are really not
Iunsonnected with this same American en-
barge. Even if could not have dcmonstra-
ted that connection, it would have been COM
petent tor me, al least, to have stated the
effects of the embargo. IT is not enough
thas the petitioners prove the precise griev-
ances stated iii their petitions they may en-
ter into details of other circumstances in
their situation, which, making those griev-
ances OF which they complain the more hea-
w, give them a better claim for relief But
have so much to spare that ] will avail my
self of no such ground. have merely now
to call your attention to that part of the
proof which shows that the Orders in Coun-
Gil may fairly bear their share of blame in
having called down upon US the American
embargo.
! In the second examination of Mr., Clennie.
in page GO, he states, that it was a perfectly
well known tact, upon the Exchange of Lon
don, amongst mercantile men, a few days
before the issuing of these orders, that some
strong measures would be taken by the go
vernment of the country to that effect: that
this was matter of general and confident
expectation; and particularly on the Satur-
day before, many persons did pretend to give
the details, which afterwards appeared i'm the
gazette. So perfectly was he convinced of it,
from all he heard. that on the 22d of Octo-
Der he wrote TO several of his correspondents
in America, that a strong measure was to
be adopted by the government of this coun
try, which in all probability would. in some
degree, affect the trade between America,
this country and the continent. He further
states that these orders, when they did come
! forth, appeared to be pretty much of the ma
ture that was expected. He does not say they
/ were accurately OF the nature looked for ;
this he could not presume to say for the
petitioners themselves tell you that they do
not yet fully understand them. They only
know this, that as far they possibly can
judge OF their effects, they tend TO ruin their
trade. Neither they nor Mr.. Glennie have
as yet d precise and distinct knowledge Of
them, with all their various clashing enact
ments, and the multitude Of alterations and
retouches they have undergone. Therefore
thcir anticipation of the measure itself could
not be very distinct. it was however with
slfety pronounced by Mr.. Glennie and other
Witnesses, to be much of the same nature
with the measure as it eventually came out.
Upon this subject, Mr. Mann, in page SO,
concurs in corroborating what Mr.. Glennie
had stated; and mentions set OF cant phra-
ses which were III peoples mouths on the
subject disrespectful to the United States,
and which will not repeat. Mr.. Mulett, in