The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1808-12-22
CONGRESS.
iSENs7K oF9HE UNIFIED SY:1TES.
. THURSDAY, Nov. 81.
EMBARGO nEBATE-CoNTINUED.
CAfr. Giies's Sneeeh conciuded. /,

(hr. CHESS Sneech concluded.
Again. sir, what would be the effect of
such connection uponsthe rest of the Unit
ed States 1n'that case, the discriminating
duties now in favor of the New ENGLAND
states would be turned against them, and
would probably be given to the middle states.
and thus New England would be effectually
excluded from carrying the bulky and hea-
wy productions efthe southern states Discri-
mination migRteveh be made in favor of Bri-
fish ships. Itisa matter ofno consequence to
the Agricultui'ist, whether his produce is
earriedto market in New England, or Old
England ship. The oaly interest he has in
the transactions is the price of his produce !:
q that could always be driven to it's highest
point by the competition of British tonnage &
British capital alone, without taking into the
estimate the tonnage & capital ofthe middle
states. The people ofthe southern states are
perfectly sensible of the local advantages their
stern brethren enjoy from the operationIo of ca
the general government. But they envy them
pot-they rejoice in their prosperity I; and
the southern people are pleased with the re-
collection that they contribute to this pros
Perlty; they lind in return their compensa-
ton IN the general safety and protection !:
do not mean safety and protection against
any Internal movements; upon that point I
would agree with our eastern brethren
upon a reciprocal absolution from all obliga
ton mean safety and protection against
foreign aggression. Under this plain and oh
yious view of this part of the subject. Mr..
PRESIDENT. Isnouid DE disposed to think that
our eastern brethren would be the last to de-
sire to absolye themselves from the sacred
obligations of the constitution.
iu the southern states We feel no resent
ments nor jealousies against our eastern
hafs l.. 1.
TO foster and encourage such unpleasant and
mischisvous feelings. The gentleman from
Massachusetts, (Mr. Lloyd) has ventured
to lnterpose an opinion between Great Bril-
tam and France, respecting the character of
the quarrel between them. He has yentnr-
ed to say, sir, th:t France is fighting for
iawless domination; whilst Great Britain is
fighting fornatale solum, for her nationalfex
istence. Sir, IN my opinion, it must be in
suspicious to the interests of the people of
tae U States when their rulers not oniy.feel.
out express sympathies in favor of one of the
beliigerent powers; and surely. sir. the gen.
tleman must feel no small sympathy for one
of the belligerents, fhebelieves the charac-
ter OF the quarrel to be such as he has des-
cribed il.
In my judgement, sir, the United States
have nothing to do with the character of the
quarrel OF the. belligerents but differ en-
t'rely with the gentleman on. this point 7
believe tine character of the quarrel is nre-
ciseiy the same ON both sides-they are both
hghtlng Tor lawless domination /; and be
heye that Great Britain has full as mnch
Chance of conquering France, as France ha 9
OF conquering q. Britain. The only differ
eHos between them consists i'm the differenc.
IN the objects of their lawless domnat;on
France claims dominion on the land. Great.
6ritain on the water; they are both eouallv
hostile to us.
Inc difference to us consists only in the
different degrees of force they can bring 70
bear upon us--in this respect Great-Brita;n
does us most injury. We are. thank Cod
remote from the influence of French power ;
but the power of Great Britain extends to
our shores. France, when she can. se;zes
ana ourns our vessels-Great-S Britain having
more power on the ocean, seizes and con6so
Gates them. The only limit of their hostili-
w the limit OF their power. Both are e.
qnally the objects of our Just resistance and
punishment, if we possessed the power,
.ireJoice that have heard no anoloo;st for
France on this foor, nor any where eIse
i1eei, sir, condescension in introducing. for
the purpose OF denying the idle and ridicu-
lous tale OF French influence, which has CO
disrespectfully and disgracefully to our coun-
try, been circulated by newspapers. Sir
this idle and ridiculous tale OF French ;nfln,
ence' have strong reasons to believe, was
originally suggested by British influence
The tale was probably invented by the Bri-
tish cabinet about the same time of the in.
vention of the tale respecting the secret arr
ticie in the treaty of Tilsit, that the Danes
had agreed to give up their feet to the French
Emperor to facilitate his invasion of Great
britain This tale Lord Hutchinson has
since pronounced in the British Parliament
TO be falsehood. About the same ne,;od
this same energetic British cabinet probably
determined upon the destruction of Ameri-
Can commerce, although the orders for that
purpose were not actually issued for several
months afterwards. Some tale was Thought
necessary for the Justification of the act. and
the suggestion of French influence operat;n :,
upon our councils was probably the one sugo
gested. o
=, have heard it said, and believe IL n he
true, that the governor of Nova Scotia
made the suggestion, in q letter addressed RI
certain British partizans in Boston. II is
nardiy tobe presumed, that he would have
taken upon himself, the responsibility of sueb
suggestion without the authority of the ca
binet. lam inclined to think that this fact
could oeproved in court of Justice. Perbans
there may be gentlemen here from BOSTON
who could give us more particular informant,
on upon this subject feel, sir. a coudeecen.
ton In touching upon this subject. 7 vish ,o
see all extraneous influence utterly ban;sho
e aft.t. 4 Al