The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1807-11-20
GomnreaG.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,,
TUESDAY, November 10.
DEBATE on fbe bin making filribe,' appropriaiis
for tie Grpnors of Tn. No1,,
CONFfh UFD.


1lcnie wsat TO provide for two otieGts the
"ne authorized by law to Wit, the INC rvafe of the
marine corps The other unauthorized, The pro-
curing ot timber and rurotale cf ordnance, Sc
Ibe Secretary OF the rIavv told them, in hi
communication end in has letter to the COM
m''tee or ways and means, that they had no
hock of thefe Articles on hand, /; ard that r,,t
petre was wanting, and was tteu .purchai-d mt
The lowell price ,inhsr ALTO had been ptocur
cd, which was IN the higher degree necslIary
Tor the defence of Our ports and harbors II
would not be doubted bat The preGdent hail
right TO make thefc provitions he II,ould have
thought him deficient in duty it he had No, done
u. The PrcGccn: had thought il at.ya,s ,eovs
TO lay ln'theSe flores, from The sfpee OF the
''Ines: 1t Imply reRed with the Uouit to ray
whether this appropriation ihuu,d &c made or
withheld. Is in paving this money o, annro.
priatng it, any fault had been committed bv
She officers OF government, ,Gthey had exceeded
orviolated their trlds, it,rouici bc time coo,;,h
to enquire into 1t when it came property before
the Houf-. 100
The gentleman from rcinilronfid,re,I theft
doctrines rs anti-reiublican /; 'Dh.therthi. ,ye--
the cafe or not, the example jad'been e, Before.
There was CAFE on record y!yfh vycDli ;nnjf,,
then. He alluded to bill raiJtd the fit Gai.
lion of the nin,h ConsreIs 70 els,ai
he thcughtit Therefore very inma,sri5I vhe-
tner money had been paid OFT 81 ,aonics uol IN.
ProPriated, or out OF ulenI,s otberNiE. aoorn-
praied. twas Conceived that c,incr, Is would
Jnitity the aa Wy an atlui! appropriation. ihe
on'y part OF the expenditure which The UsuG.
could o6,ectio, was that Which related 70 fall.
pe'fe ana naval torea andtc -nnctycd thrfe
~ 'SSH PoFcha'eu WIN dug regard 70 the In.
tereif Of The country
Mr.. q. ~ Camp5eN, regretted vcry much
that the gentleman hon, "a. had ci,hsr n,i;Iin.
'ierltood iim. or had inflated VIVA, h,d ,.,s,,
rom nm. Wi1t lie had laid VA, his ard
TINS Only tha. there nigh, &c cafe Which
would authorize the application of money der
t'ieQ Tor one pprpoic to another he was rot
pFSpaied to lay that this was fuch cafe. but
mat fuch cafe might haDpen pe G.i, ;r
pried That thefe do6lIines we,e Gi,m,,;.,i
antTepuhiican orfedersl, aud that i. had been
9Hd they were playing 4 game of Dolitc,.
fopnoahout; the eXprslIion was pot r,,reIv
meant TO convey Ar idea that they w-r- NOS.
adyocaiirE'a dottrrc which they had opc. an
peied Heftsd fsid that it was unuecef,sr,, n
enquire whether iheIe inns were pai.; or not
re mao hot iaiast Vas nnaierisl whence ,h1v
. ~" "seh ota"n' 1t they were paid. He ap-
ptaicd TO TIE chairman and e. The UouC. # fhsE.
were not the expeditions be had aCet. He tho,,
tn't the eXgrncy would warrant the purchaC,
of'neie materials; the Prs;iient had told them
the'e were extraordinary expenditures. b.ncr
ne copid not lee how this oueition involved the
Pf'ncipie OF applying nouey defined for one
PurPcic 70 another.
re teit rs much relu9dndc 10 vote for Isree
..Vdl appropriations IS the gentleman from
vagina nc never had been in favor of thsro.
nor ever ihould be. He conceived thai IL auv
thing could authorize fuch expenditures NH,
outrage did; and if the Proficient h "a nesj.ff-
ed to put the nation in a Gate of defence ~.
people would have had reafon 10 comp,.:r of
me 'neinciency Of government il was the l,,,t,,
oil the PrefdeEt to adoptfuh meaft,res ss wonId
have been authorized by Corgteis, had thev hem
fitting at the time.
ne queitlon now WAS whether the HOMIE
"ouiI isnciion theie expenditures or not
whether the cx'gency of the cafe woujd i,,0;f,
them He had not expected that oh;.,e,inr,
would have been made TO the details of m, hin
or That it would have become auction ,yl.
ther The money was actually paid hv the Sec,e
tlTy of me Navy or not.
Mr.. Quincy fad, that the ouefi,n he b,J n,
ed was 10 irnple and direct that he could ,of
lee no" the chairman q: the committee Of ,vav,
and means or any other member could h We
1n'NaEen II, heie articles had been purciafed
three months ago was it not clear maj ,he,s
vas intereR due on the purchaG. how 49,,
20 re paid (? n no interet twas due lb- monte
81 The United Sfatcs had brcI Applied Is ths
IFtereit was due, where vac The fosciG- ar,r,-
Draticn 10 pay u He AZ ID theft 4ueQion,, g.,
information, and not with ,I~,i,o >, cre,t.
difficulty. AS TO the paghFs quoted by Ire
gentleman from Vermont, wit, adeGga To G,,.,
yhe iimpiisrity of The propoird mcclure r., one
FORMERLY adopted, jhat waa 20 cxpencr ariihn
rzrd nv law, for which ium of money lid
beep appropriated by law. br, which va. no,
1uficicnt 20 cover the wl3ee expenditure this
vac an expenditure which had mol been an,ho.
,iztd.
Mr. K. flid, if tho gentleman from Ten.
neiite had not before played round,hout
game, he appeared row to have done IT, Th
gentleman miRht explain away what ne had
5sii, bnt be dill moi make his Argument diff.
ent from what he had under God it.
lie thanked the gentleman from Vermont
tmr. Fhk) FOR having referred ho 10 a former
report OF the committee Of Wsys aud Means.
IN which be, AS Chairman Of that committee
bad made ifSfar application TO The Secretary
the Navy for information 10 THAI nogs recon-,
rnendtd. and 20 which d,6nite snfwer wa.
given He fuppo(ed 'he gentleman by quoting
only part of the report, I'D not mean to oar.
bic IT, Mt. Rread tic letter which h, wT,t.
TO The Secretary fJr iofofnj7tion, and bis renlv1
Mr. X. iaid 1t that fsIiDn lie reprehendei ~
rondnct OF that officer, and in THIS yery n,r.
licular. ~ P"''
Mr.. Randsb5 csrtainy underhood The Gen.
tleman from IeuneH.r to fay, thai il did mn,
matter wbetIee the Secretary of the E.vy bad
paid for the extraordinary topples ~ oaet,;o,,
~ bank notes or ipecie, on yyhether~fhfv ~ ere
paid tor st All. Now, I've was ~ nrint,,,, ~ =,