Portland gazette and Maine advertiser. (Portland, Me.) 1805-1818, 1807-09-14

! 80 49, SOhNCiuSu kOT WOulQ JON 81 ana
thoutands 10 the weitward.
Mr.. Hay. Do you recollec, whether
he laid that Gen w. had ferioully Joined
II A. Yes, he faid 70 and many great
er men. Mr.. Hay. will ak yod, fl
whether at that time you were in the fer
vice Of the United States A. was de-
Clared not 10 be. MIR. Hay. ] wifi not
to wound your feelings, commodore, BY
myquafion-but it is necefary to account
to the jury, for the application which was
thus made TO you by the accuied. Did
| you not feel yourfelf hunt at this dclar4
! ton A. Certainly did.
Nh. Burr aiked me if would not write
to gen. Wilkinfon, as he was about to
/ dlipatCh two couricrs TO him. told him
| that ! had no iubiect to write on, and de-
Clined writing. Mr.. BUR Obitrved, that
: ievcrdl officers would be pleafed at being
under my command. He fpoke highly Of
a lieutenant Jones, and aiked me whether
| he had not failed with me. | aniwered
! HIM that he had not /; and that | could
| give no account Of him, as never had
irrn him. Mr. Burr obierved that the ex-
| petition could not fail that the MeXiCans
! were ripe for revolt and that he was
| incapable Of any thing Chimerical or that
I could lead his friends into a dilemma.
He lhowed me the draft of perioge, fuch
as plies between Powle'S Hook and New
! York and aikId me whether they were
adapted to the Mlililippi river and the wa
tiers emptylng into il. ! gave my opinion
| that they were. He afkcd me whether
COuld get naval contributor 10 make few
eral copies Of the draft. ipoke to ma
val contributor; but he could not make
| them as ioon as they were wanted, and
returned the draft. Mr.. Burr told me,
he wanted thOie boats for the conveyance
| OF agricultural products TO New-OIeans,
! and in the event of a war for traniports.
knew they were not calculated for trant-
ports by fta, nor were they calculated for
carrying guns I; but having determined
MOTTO have any thing to do with the Mex
ican project, faid very little about the
| boats. But in the latter end OF the month
! OF July, told him there would be no war
with Spain. He 16cmed very iangune,
! that there would. He fdid however, if
/ 'difappointed in that, that he was on a bar
gain for a large tract on the Ouachlta that
he intended to invite his friends about him
10 iettle i that In one year he would
have 1000 families Of taihlOn and Iome Of
property, who would COnfitute charm
ing ioCiety that in two years there would
Be double the number and that being
on the frontier he would be ready 10 march
Immediately whenever war took place.
have endeavored TO narrate thcle ieveral
conversations verbatim as they pafed |
am not poitive however, that they are
but my ftatements are 1T lraG the fgbfancc
Of what did pats.
Quej2i9ned By the Prgtfcuti9n.
Mr. Hay Did thefe conversations take
place after the declaration thas you were no
longer in the iervice Of the u. s. A. The
whole of them -(Col. Darlington, one Of the
Jury. Did they take place in Juy9 a. zee.
I oblerved 10 him, there would be no war,
thought shot there was great cauie for it y
N1rHay. Had you expre1ed your difIatisfacton
IT this procedure a. Yes; frequently-Q
| believe that YOU Cl2de lome publication on
the fIbje6 y. ] did. o Your frt con-
VIBRATIONS were about bulldog bridges, fcttling
lands, &C. a Yes; when Col i frf re-
Irned from tie weltwarG. M. M'Rae He
did not exp et- 10 you his cctigns rtlpeaing
the Ou2cAI.a land, TIL he had dlcevercd your
avcrLon to the Mexican project a. He had
not iposen particularly about the Ouachta
lands; but pTeviouay about fpeculaiion in welt
err lands generally. Mr.. Writ. Did he fay at
the latter end Of July that he was about con-
GLIDING bargain for the Ouachita land? "A.
think 70. M. Hay. Wien he propoied 70
make YOU an Admiral, did NOT the thought
ltrike YOU how he Was to accomplish this
Mr.. B. denied that commodore Il had faid
that Mr. B. had proniicd 10 male him ar 2d-
miral Com. Tu1ton. MI Burr told me he
wiiLed TO make or 10 ies me one. do nor par
ticulaIly rec0ilect which was his exprellon.
He faid r+ere was a formidable Davy to be
eaablifhed-Nr. II. From what quarter of
the world was the expedition by lea to 60
A. do not know did not ak him, where
it was to 20 from. Mr.. II. Did you under
itand that YOU were TO command the eEpedi-
ton by fea +! "A. Yes but declined and ak
ed no quefions particularly or the fubject.
Mr. Baker. uuderRand you 70 fay, thar The
navy was TO have been ereCled, atterthe gov
ernment was to be eGabllhed A. Yes. MIR.
M'Rae. Did he not talk of naval expedi
ton againlt Havannah All told Mr.. Burr
that Havannah could not be taken without
naval force. He laid, tBIt could be obtained.
Crsj5-quefi04ed.
Mr. Burr. Did not fay, had never feen
1t. Jones A. I do NOT reco.ef that You
fpoke highly Of him. Q. DO you not recol-
IeGt Gated, If there was war, thar private
enterprise and private expeditions would be
lawful (Mr. Hay objected to the queltion
becaute leemingly intended for the jury) Q,
Did nor often talk leveral years ago about
naval concernsl Did ! not fay, that you
were duped by The Smiths and Others That
| they had no ferrous intentions Of lerving you
Was not that the reafon, that wiflcd 70 un-
wed you from the navy A. Yeu did fate
| thofe facts. Q. Do YOU NOT find that was