The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1807-12-01
In TIRE.
HOUSE or REPRESENTATIVES.
TUESDAY, November 10.
Eos5nis on re BID ninkixg ti-fb:r opbrobr.atiox
jor :ie fppc54 ojrfhe Macy.

SlteH on trts luf)cCt, nor mould he then have
been futietted TO the embarraflment he felt If
adoseiiiug he Speaker, was it not for the ap
PREDICTION be entertained, that it might be fup
pofed b. Rs condiments that he was Influenced
in the vote Sc WAS about to give by the fame
feaions which sad been offered by gentlemen
tSho arguing againN the pa6age of the bill, had
yet declared their ultimate intention 10 vote for
it.
If there is any queftion in this debate, faid
Mr.. J.. it is constitutional one. The sryu.
nen.s Of the gentleman from Mathematics NJ r
Quincy and thofe OF the gentleman from Virgi.
MIA (M'. Rsndo!ph), prove that this, if any, is
The ground of oppoiition. In the authority in.
troduced and relied on by thefe gentlemen there
was, it he recoletted it right, (for it was fome
time iince he read the book a iifcufI;on of the
queition sriiing under that lection Of the conti-
tuition, WHICH declares that no money ihall be
drawn from the treafury, but in confeQuence of
appropriations made by law: He concurred
with the gentleman from Virginia inthc rcipcct
which is due to the opinions Of the Secretary of
the TreaturY whole authority 10 quoted and If,
laid Mr.. l.. was fatisiied that the rcafopiny he
has advahced applied TO the provifons of this
bill, would rather incur all the riik which on
this or any future location might be the confc.
quence, of refriiug to give our aid to the Exc
Sutive, when 1t had, on great emergency, adj
vanced its perional responsibility, than lend my
voice IN fupport of meaiure deemed uncon-
ftitulioG1i. II the gentleman who introduced
this authority had read a little further back, I
think 1t would have been found, that the lirR
cafe put by the writer in iluGraton OF the con-
ttitu,ional principle, was that, where under
former adrnnuitraton, fum of money had been
appropriated by law 10 the dcharge Of the
principal Of fome Of our foreign debta, and il
was applied in dfrharge of the interet 1t was
certainly more advantageous to the u. States TO
s'i'charge the principal than the intereR But
the gentleman from MaiIachufetts INV Ouiscyl
has iaid that in all initances under the former
administration, there was particular obirt1 for
which money was appropriated (; vet we find
that in the cafe uf mentioned, although the
fubjett was the fame, the particular Object of
application WAS very different: 1t appears to
me that Misunderstanding of the terms 0bbro
priafion and APP ir0tion among US, has produc.
ed much of the preient debate thev have been
indfcriminarely ufed, and for the purpofe of ex.
Pre'iiug the fame ideas, although in the autbo
rity relied on, the Secretary of the Treafurv has
in all the cafes he has adduced in ilinItratioD.
drawn the difinttion. In the prcient cafe, an
act OF hoi'lit y towards this country had called
for the energies Of tie government. Contracts
for articles Of neceiiity have been made and the
responsibility of the officers of government
itands pledged Tor their fulfiimeut. view the
meaiures contemplated by the bill, as involving
a quefion of expediency only. This being the
cafe, l need add nothing to the arguments p.
quaily urged on both ides, in iupport of the
proprety of the expenditure from the highly
aggravating oauie of it. Whether indeed. the
former meaiures of this government hare had
the effect of producing the cauies of the great
national excitement we have wtneded, as fore
gentlemen iceu 10 fuppoce or whether the
conduct OF q. Britain has its origia in a deter
mined tpiFit of hottiiity towards this country.
IS in the prefent difcuiiion entirely unimportant
whether the uneXamPicd outrage lle has COM
nnitted on Denmark, or the unprovokei attack.
on the veiiels of Spain, have been invited by the
pudlanimity Of thoie countries, as ia fugeefcd
was the cafe with us, are queitious which i
GlaII not now difcuCs.
mir. CooS expreiied lis full appreciation of
the coGdutt of the Excessive, and the officers
Of the departments. There had been no yy,ono
application OF public money, for none had been
drawn out of The Treafury. 1t was merely a
qnefion of e2Pedency with the Houfe whether
they would fan9ion the rleafures which had
been adopted the Prciident had not bound
them 10 DO II, and they were at liberty to act az
they chofe. Approving as he did the courfe
puriueG, he thOuld vote in favor of the bill.
Mr.. Lynn would MT occupy the H1ufe long
on iuhjecs of 70 little Importance. On the
3core of contife7cy he ihoud vote q. he bid al.
vvsys done. When appropriations were made
without authority, If he liked them he had vo
'cd lOt IL Tx ora not, ne had voted
sRainh them. He thanked the Preiident for the
roDptitnGe which he had manifefed BY his
coadntt on this occaGon, aod ould fee NO harm
which couid arife from it. II the Eoule apptoy.
ed the meatures, they would vote for them, . il
would be immaterial TO them whether the bar.
san were made to-day or tomorrow. And "a
he did like them aud the Houfe liked them, he
would vote for the bill without OBTAINING them
a minute longer on The fubjea.
MIR. Gardiner had been much pleafed with
Abe debate which hPd takep place ON thi: flb.
tstt, in the courfe Of which gentlemen had an
opportunity OF exPrefDg their opinion not only
on this particular fuhiett, but generally. TIE
attack on the Cheiapeake made on the eed Of
June IaR. had called from the nation one uni
verial sEpreiiion of adherence; one burif Of
execration at tbst daring afaut, had refunded
from every part 0fthc Union. IT wasthe voice
of powerful nation, calling for fatsflaion for
her infulted rights and when heard, il would
be refpe6led. In 90 part Of the community
Rad this expreflion been more fncere thsn in
the city IN which he refded IN. York;; that
city which would endure, If rby p.rt of ths
country filtered, The mot dreadful caian4i:ie,
OF war ;hai civ dcfencele!e, unprnvded, ard
expofed, wtoe Inhabitants h9d been told by
geitlcrnsn on the floor of that Eoufe, :h.t The,
muir ny 10 the mountains for protection; +,
that city, 'hc fame ientirnenis prevailed which
exiitc3 IN every part OF our country.
Is this period the preGdeat, feeling without
doubt the fame fenumcnts as had be en- mani;