The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1807-11-20


''0s dehg'isse5 by aaisc II; The h;., and il1ontt
they befound to be uItiefs, the ig,ns eht ',ts
GAIT on the Navy generally. As refpsNs this
timber. for gun-boats, he aikcd,' had there hcsn
any authority given TO the Executive of the U. :,
S.to purchafe fich timber2 Atthe lait FELTON,
OF this body, there was before the Houfe s.nilf
authorizing, (anoBs other objects) the building
4 number of gun-boats, but which failed of
fucceis. motion was made aby binifeif ttf
ftrike out the words "for building run -hoa,s,',.
70 as TO authoriiethe provifion of timber for ge-
neral naval purpofes. Agaihf this motion he
found long lift of names, for.it had no i.;ch
authority to recommend it. They could have
the whole number of gun. boats that were ueccf.
fairy, bull, in one month, even If it were thou
iand. For himfeIf, he was now clearly in favor
OF timber for gun boats, not becaute he comic
dered thent'an adequate defence for the u. 81
but as they might be ufeful in 'foure cafcstu,a7
certain extent, as fubordina,e psttlof f}aem;
Of defence; this was their true Ghare ctsr
Hence was tiiat. the erection of 'snn-toatS gave
10 much antufsmeet to mifchevoustoneoes aud
editors, when conhdered as formisg IN them
felves fyhem OF defence. Re was csariy in
favor Of purifying the fine blaras that for which
he htd betorc voted and the gentlemen who
had condemned the u1cafure propofed by HIM
felt Taft feilion, nigh, vote for the fine now, as
Il was Backed by hie hersuthorty.7 lH.:;i tfcre
Tucflion before the Eonft, that seitle.hen might
fee how FAR they wandered. from it.
The Chairman hatcd the Guefion 10 H.. on
the riiing OF the committee in order to report
the-bhl -,cr
Mr. Mt.cfou faid, he rofe merely TO ita,e to
the Corp,ttee a matter OF fact and when be
had Rated that fact, he thought he would be
juflifed in the inference he ihond draw from i,
Confederate preparations had been made in IT,.
Part nj the county. which he had the houer 10
repre- ient in conieqnence of the outrs &c whic!
had been Committed. He knew it to'be a f.te
that citizens of that oli}ritt had turnii,icd arIi
clss for the fervice Of the Uoiied States, and
rendered imp ortant ieryces, and that they were
now ,Sn,dopay waitiQg for the paflage Of his
law, that .!lry might receive th> fatnies which
world bccome due to them under i:s tlncioa
THIS being the fld in his difrit1, lie had no
doubt the fame Fact exited in other parts Of ;Irl
United States. He did not Saou ;Hat ,..e ~
ecutirc of the United States had purcliaicj OK
paid a cent for fat.pe,re; but as tn. Uniicdii
States were Indebted 10 citizens in dis r!in.i5l,
the probability was that they were indebted ii
other parts of the UDion.
Mr. G. N, CaDlbbe!2 (aii that he would maks
but few additional remarks en- this fIhiest
the committee of Ways aud Means had concsiy
edlthey had done their duty by taking the only
means IN their power ~ acquire information
he was tnrpnled that there could be a diviiion
CT ientiments among the members of the Roug-
with regard 70 the manner OF making this an,
preparation. He declared that be hili held tiI-
fame principles he had always maintained 70 lar
as refpected ipeciGc appropriations bat a CAFE
might happe" m wh'cs they might be dipenied
with, as cafes OF exiscncy required extraCss,igs
ry remedies. After. making fome remarks on
what had been iaid reiqecting brretcai doctrines.
and deyIaiions from republican principles, he
aliured the gentleman on his right (nic K, an
do'Pi) thar de was the Ian Whole political prin-
cip,es he hoaid follow. The gentleman from
Connecticut had fad the Houfe were callvo uD
on 10 make appropriations, but had NOT been
ipecihcaIiy informed what expenditures thew
were to cover. The objects of The approDria.
tons had been detailed TO the Houft, by thtIe,
ter from the Secretary of the Navy, and by
members on the floor. Ii did not appear To I've
the de6te Of the gentleman TO know for what
particulars the expenditure had been made, but
whether they were actually paid for or no,
TINS he muit lay, appeared TO him perfectly i'm.
material, and that If the occaGon was fDfficicut
10 juitliy the eXpences incurred, the appropri-
aton was proper and ought TO be made. He
thought the taking money from an appropria-
ton 10 one Object, aud applying it to another
might be adr'tted IN iuCh emergency which
might ALTO warrant the Executive in igcurrin,-
expences not authorized Ivy law.
MIR. RGndoibb obierved, that he underfood
the gentleman from Tenneilee to fay, that he
ihouid not apply TO him for inGruGtion In poll
teal principles. He @oa!d allure the gentle
mau he was one of the laft perfous he ihorld
with TO iHitruct and WneE he wanted pupils.
he ihould not folicit him TO become one. Mr..
X. iad be had been involved in this debate PIE
maturely. He had heard the order OF the dav
ttated from the chair, and no perlun called il
up. lie then walked out of the Houfe in f,arch
of book; from the extraordinary echo of tais
large room, there being great difficulty in hear
ing and being beard, when he returned, he had
not diftncily nnderitood the quefion.
He wiihed to be underfood as giving his vote
upon the fame ground with his friend aud col
league who had jun fat down. The cxpence
having been incurred by the pa,riotifin OF our
citizens, it would be an iudeIibIe dngracc no,
TO difcharge it, Bot in doing this, he did not
mean 10 commit himfelf as voting for navy, or
the expences arine out of navy, except in a
cafe tuch as the preient, where debt had been
actually incurred.
The gentleman from Pennsylvania had agreed
with him perfectly in projections; he had there.
fore nothing move to 90 than 10 ak him, AS he
had heretofore done, 10 act with him. This
gentleman, 40 indeed every other gentleman,
had taken wide range on this quefion. In
the firit place, tbe eXpences were not authoriE
ed by law , an enquiry bad been made why
they were incurred without authority, and
reafon aligned that there was great
crf5, an iniut had been received which
every man mutt feel-in mort, The crcumitan- !