The enquirer. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1804-1815, 1806-06-06
CONGRESS-.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,.
MONDAY, April 81.
DEBATE ON y L BILL.

powers"
Thcfe amendments propoied nr.king OUT all the
P%rovitions OF the bill relative to the repeal of the duty
CT fa,t.
MIR ALSTON faid he believed it would be in
order 70 amend the amendment Of the Senate. If it
were, he would offer an amendment, which would
go to take of the duty on fat to the amount of 8
cants.
The Speaker coufderirg .he amendnleut in the pre-
TENT iage Of the buiirefs no, in order, the qncfion
was FusC On concurTing III the amendments o, the SEN
ate.
Mr.. J. RANDOLPH. I underfand shis Ruufe
to have iert u bill TO the Scrate repeating the exiting
duty on fslt, ard continuing for a further time the tax
inpofug q duty of two and a half rr cent. on arti-
cles previouily charged with al ociayev duties. The
Senate have returned the bill, retaining the fupFiy
'Tve voted, as well as the tax ProTofed by us TO be re-
pealed. hope we fhali no, agree t. their amend
n'ent' ; aud the reafonsI Ahall offer VIII not conGR
of -hofe drawn from expediercy, bur from my idea Of
the coTttituti1nal powers of tbs and the other branch
OF me legislature, which is, that it is tine fole and
indiieutab'e prerogative Of this Houfe TO grant the
money o. the people Of The Us. 1t is here ouly that
a grant of money can originate. 1t is true that the
Senate have the power Of amerd;ng money bills, but
my idea OF the extent TO which th:t power can 20,
according 20 the true ipiris ofthe con1;t,tiop, is this
While the Senate may amend money bills to facilitate
the collection Of duties, or in other rcfpett5 as Ia
their dets!s-they do rot poHefs the colititutional
power OF vary ing cihtr the uranium Of TAX propnfed
~ this Houfe, or the OF ic9 on which i, may be levi
ed. | hope the Houle wa never corient to give up
This invaluable privilege, OF "a; ing what ~iupples
'hey viii; graft and the otjacf oa which they iiali
be levied. But even iuppotirg this objection nugato-
~ I hope This Houf. wiit no, fuifer itielft tn be e1trap-
ped on the Ian day ofthc FELTON, in agreeing tn 4 grant
which it was neve- in thair contemplation to make.
When we frrt 4 bill IN the other branch to continue
the Mediterranean du'E, we ient at the fame time a
bill to repeal tbs Intg on iat. The amendment from
the Senate cli be viewed in no either light than a. o
originating i money bill in the S-na;e--it goes TO ORR
g,late i tax on flit. Such in effect will he The obira
and tendency of the ,reafIre. Let Us uppoCe, inlead
offending TO the S,r..e i bill iupo!i1g a new tax,
we had fent ? GnpFe bill 70 repeal this fame tax upon
fzlt. CoIid she Senate By an amendment, r.yet and
continue ;hs Mediterranean fund And il they could,
would not tina. he originating money bill? / hope
the Itouie Will dna gree to the amendments Of the Sc
nate.
Ma. SLOAN. Howcger may expore rnyfcIf to
the osniire of the qentlerlan from Virginia, | ;airk
It my duty tofav fo0oethinT on Il fuhi.9 highly inter
citing TO my coaititreurs. notwithstanding the IA
tents ard eloGreucc OF lhAt geItiemau, I dGer fS~l
him on this fIhics. | viii ak what cbauce there
was % obtaining the reoeal Of this ,aI u9on falt, when
the neafure was pcpe.d IN AZ the heel OF a fsGion,
Eyhen it might have been offered three months ago,
sr1 connected with another thing which compelled
;rr to vote Tor It. IN my cpinion it is IS cona:tution-
a!{0r rs 10 agree 20 nj an1endmeht Of the Senate, as
ifthe thing originated with US. ] hope the Houre
VIII agree 70 me 9NtHAnlent-LDP Mutation OF our al
farsrequires it. and I .cuh we tiaIl treat with con-
temp. the atterr. "a force down 20 important a bill
~ the end Of a feG:CR.
Ma. AI.SrON thorght It would be advifahle to
accorl-lojate with the Senate. in order 20 obtain an
accommodation, he nioald vote Ia The frft intance a. !
gainii the amendments Of he Senate. On a confer
ente they may agree to trike off the duty of g cents
on lat and the next wear Vhen we fha,l better un-
der(tand the ground o. which We hlad, the tiaIre
nav BE dirofed fill Further to leden the barthen.
Mn. RHBA (ofTgn) ! do not coiider this bill
% in the nature of a bill ORIGINATING revenue. but a.
nne, on TIE contrary, d~erlGting from the revenue.
contend that the Senate have the power a. any tine
90 fay they will not coufent n ne repeal OF a revenue
law, ellie they are 4 ;ridimg, iufEnjicant holy. Are
they not as we'll as we 20 iu1r- ofthe eZigei:ty 81 he
t'nctry? 1nisi is nrt 4 gueil.1, o eSpcdenty, bh,
81 neceiity. Though we are dsGroIs &C fatiu- CT
the duty ON fa',, fuch IS .te t;uItion Of the cnantrg,
menaoed with foreign danger, and particularly win
a war with Tuuis, that tn revrnue ought not to 81
diminiHied. For thefe reafons ! haii CONCUR in he g.
mendment Of the Senate.
The yeas and nays We're then taken or ngreeing r. /
the amendment Of tn Seuate-Ee.s @5-Gav5 sc.
Nix. I. RANDOLPH. hope we f.cil nos 3D.
here TO oar %dlagreen; en' 20 he anerdrent q the
senate. hope we fhill nor corcir vita the S"u.
ave under the idea cf reducing the duty on flt
from twenty 70 twelve cents Misunderstanding a !
fear entertained by lore gentlemen ofa deficiency in
the revenue, the Houie, by a vaf majority. ptifrd,
fhe bill repeating the duty an lat. The meI.re n
the Pref iert was referred IN fhe committee of Tays
end Means, and that committee made a report re-
commencing the taking oGthc duty on ut, aui con-
t.nu.rg the two and n hall PER cent duty. Fycfy ch-
lesion 10 ,hs n'r1firc that nov exits Hen esifcJ, !
end ought then 70 Eave been nffe rcd. We then fcnt
- the Other HegGs ffrlty Of uon"y-l iac Yielding
9O0. 900 dollars, with me probability % iss amount.
ing the enluing year 20 a %nl'ion, ia Ibis (arls bill We
yropofed ticking Of tax, v,hic, DOES roe Weld cool
Gro dolars-wc therefore invade a grant Of 10000
dollars annually. Il laid that the amendment of the
ScAote does not 60 to the impaGtionof a nsv TAX, but
that Il continues the revenue as 1t IS. There is fome
y.auGb'iity, bu; NJ folidity IL this rerarE. i:t goes
10 continue the revenue as II row is, where H. 'he ne
oe1ity of continuing the du'y Of TWO and a half per
cent ? u is therefore 10 fa1 q new money bill. Let
me urge one thing to the Houie. u we ever mean to
hrike OF the jH;y or fllt, VIC mu1 cling e the Me-
6iferraneaE fund as The lever 70 lH. this load from
tie houldsrs o. Tie people. II viii be recolie6ted
thar within FIVE years w rave taken of tie internal
taxes. Z am glad oft foT I fear II would not now
be doue. They produced about 100000 dollars, in
otudve Of the faxes which have expired, and elOCCOI
collars executive n .heG1. EGt 'yr haze granted a
~furplyof two aud a kllf yer crnr 1n.ies, which
yield annually, from oOOCcO 70 q fri1.on dollar
This is p complete oGs,t to the repeal e the internal
rve9. What we have lon by their repeal we have
med with the addition Of one, or 100000 dollars
reyond the fum we CIoUid have received, had they
becQ iuifersd to remain, and no addition been made
- the dd;ies On imports and tonnage ard yet we
hear Of the Vro,ving demands of the gSvernncrt /