Virginia Argus. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1796-1816, 1800-12-19

rT l. ard tie motive ria, had :aaaeResj nj. con-
due he dld th.s ioT the ini0Tflstion OF members
in the houle at the time he had before sidFei-
fed fre houie. The Speaker then repeated what
be bad before Rated, with ior,e std,,ons; viz
tha; 90 being applied 70 by Nr. Stewart. he had
d,cased to him his 3eeiGon bciore any oth-r APP
p,icat;oa had been made ira, he hat lPo!.e 20
many ne:nbers, al OF whom wiihos, sie tx.
ce9,ca had approved his iGess anu concluded
with again desl.rnS that the StenogS apheTs Gould
nor bc Emitted wiihin the bar without violating
the order Of the honie, and tn; convCnicnes OF tsc
mcmbsrs. Ii was. he iaii. for the houfs To dee:d:
to them only wsshe reiponlbs.
Mr.. Eishoia, ander ood il 10 BE the Object OF
1hoic who iupporSed the ambition OF the Sienogra-
Pliers within the bar to place them on footing,
they had heretofore held. This was his objsSl.
An the remarks, therefore made, respecting their
independence Of til: chair, were Ppieahle. They
woslG aih be iuSjttt to his oonrol except - to
the hugic point CT i,Oaiicn In ihort The suiiuels
would be reNored to ts old form.
HIS colleague had made an appeal TO his candoF.
He wi.hed 10 know whether he Mr.. Nicholss)
thought thst he, or any Gentleman in the houie,
wiihed TO fupPrels ms lentnents, or was dilpo.ed
to ihrinl; from an Iyowa, of them. He would
fwer the appeal made by his colleague and would
tell him that he did not feel hinniei az liberty
form conjeesures repefipg the opinionS OF others,
hut decided from iaSs. II he beard Gentlemen
make uic OF argnments 10 weak az thoie which he
had heard taat dag in defence OF ther tcDsIments,
he would fay that their feelings Uttered e!irntia-
( ly from MS. C would fay that, juGging them by
their arguments, Jhey do DOT with pG5..ety TO be
given 20 the Desates of the houle.
What does She Gentleman tell US , Does IL not
snunst TO this, chat their eomPlaiiance for the
Speaker fuher him 10 Judge Tor thenielves, in
cafe where they are the Ben Judges ana wculd
not this complasnee go this length, thar if .e
Speaker lhould Judge wrong they viii not
to correa his error'
! We are told By Gentleman jul up. ,liat the
application made proceeds from pride, and that il
can proceed from nothing eile. Blu. the gentle.
nan has not aligned his reafon. for this extraor.
binary charge.
It i, commended that any place without the bar
will be convenient for the StsnoerspheTs. Let
the place be pointed out. Let the gent,smen WHO
urge this ihew US place without the bar irae4
ceiiible to the whipers Of the - cn,bers and The
! Preiiute of crowd DO they imagine that any
PARTICULAR place can be aihgned, to which they
| can eniure profound iilencey and from whick Gee
very periou can be withheld 7 Do they not know
have they experienced, thar when buinrfs pref
ies, when fubjeets of importance are difcuAsd,
crowd Is produced, noiic eniucs, add inisr poiing
obRacles render il impofibe either to hear or &c
the members In lueh Gales, by far the rnoft inter
citing that can occur, recels within the bar can
! he their only protection.
| The Gentleman frora MaiIachulctts had put the
hniinds upon very extraordinary footing foot.
ing that nc did no, eIpca from him II. repre.entt
cd that Il would be fate traf the reporters to the
| fPeaker's Indulgence, For his part he did not
thInt It would be fate in fueh hands. Shall the
ipeakeT have the diicretion of faying what debate
ihali be rakenJ and what lhaii not Shall he. and
/ he onlNr n-x, al. 4
deiire this Surely he could not He ought Ia.
cher to deiire the houis 70 decide generally than
thus impoie upon him fnch an nvidioas tal-.
Mr.. Nicholas fsid he oonGdered thofe who re.
port the debates appearing in this houle on the
behalf Of the people of the United States, TO whom
they communicated what psiIed here. The poo.
pie were entitled TO this information AID IL, Is
oblerged by the gentleman from MalIachulstts Ell.
Their foreign nnilers, feerersries, or any Other
gentleman in long robes, interiered with fuch IN
| object they ought 20 give way. He knew not
wherein eoniilied the propriety OF afigning them
particular tcats what right had they to executive
fssts He knew no connection that fubGhcd be-
tween them and the heuIe. &c the right as il may,
ne was not for iacrifeng fold benefit to mere
eomplafance.
But a gentleman has told US that one Ssensgra.
pher, for his INTERPRETATION and infolence, had
been discharged by the Speaker. In rhe couris of
the debate MIR. Nicholas iaid he had hudiouly
avoided any allufon thus circumstance Nor
would he row lay any thing about il, as he
thought il altogether foreign from the preleut
qseition
The refpea which gentlemen expreGsd for the
Speaker appeared to him TO lead chem iron, the
objea they profefedt to have in view. For at pre-
ient che Stsnographsrs are not under the control
of the Speaker. But admit shem within the bar,
and il they guilty Of mifcondu6 If they infringe
any OF the rules Of the houle the Speaker has them
within his power.
Some gentlemen aPprehend the adniiIion Of
crowd OF Stenogrs piers The thing "a morally
inpelibe. When Congress met in large popu.
lous city where Ievera daily papers were printed.
we iaw but two reporters. Here, removed from
tie huiIy world, whsre the demand for that de-
feription Of lsbouF which arele from pubhihing
The debates was nearly 70 great and Of COME.
quenee the profit lefs, it could not be expected
that there could be more.
Mr. Nicholas concluded by declaring that, in
his opinion, it was the duty ofthe houle to decide
in this cafe. The Speaker had changed the eaa :.
sliihed practice OF the houie /, became, the houf-
to enquire whether he had done what he ought TO
have done which il he had omitted to do It devolv
cd on them TO fee chcSed.
ME. VAIN lPoke in favour Of the adoption of
the report. The beginning of the fpceeh we
IL. I. 4.