The Massachusetts spy, or, Thomas's Boston journal. [volume] (Boston [Mass.]) 1772-1775, 1774-05-05
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Fl o u S E of c ON MON
Monday, March 2.

IL ieyerai private bills, &c. received.
Lord NORTH tai, he had meiIage from h;e M,;eav
to prelent to the houf, and dered leave to bring II mn
It read tting for that of lare yera unba thar
turbances had ariien among IFS iuhjcets e,.,;on as
he had ordered facil papers as couI 9sss any
The PROCEEDINGS To be laid before both houies OF
hr 70 have their aance ia feeling the laws duly exc
rutea Lord North then preieuted bundle OF papers re-
freezing America, the heads OF which were RED over pui
potng 70 be letters TO and from Maachuler bay, bOon,
New Hamplhre &c. letters from Lord barTngton' Lofa
HilllbOrough, Mr.. Grey Cooper sSe' -c... -.
Mr. RIcE moved that addreis be Preiented 70 nus
ac for his orcat goodne in ordering his meiage, and
the American papers to be laid before the houie ana 10
,,re his maey that his faithful commons would, without
ay exert every means their power to fee the laws duly
executed in America, sc. He Prefaced his motion WITH
long account of the rife and proges OF the American 'feH
aas proceedings, and was muen i0f uns Pii''s'
10 bring them 10 a compliance.
Lord Glars ad, he agreed with the honorable gen
teman and hoped he houd find this meauTe carried through
with unannity he ihoud therefore fecond the notion
MID owpEswELL ipoke greatly againit the PTopriety
of eares thar had been heretofore adopted, and a Jet
thof wife heads who brought into the trouble now ex
trcite u.s. He was very ievee administration through
out his fpeech.
Colonel JENNINGS faid he ihould Object to the words
&c every means" and lhould move amendment, that
proper means. :,
Mr. ELLIS faid nearly the fame as Mr.. Kice and was
for fpirited meafures being uied.
Mr.. Z. Busxy defred his MaeRy's ipscches from I76S
% 1870 and the anSers, might be read, all which tended
10 America, and the lat anier nearly the lame as the
pren addefs propoie letting forth, that his faithful COM
MONS would, without delay, exert every MEANS &c. ne
d he had looked carefully the Journals and Gould not
find one meanre that parliament adopted that ieilon al
though their promiie to his Maefy; he houd therefore
be again their proming again, uneis ne was lure thsy
meant to perform.
Mr.. soLtcrroR GENERAL faid it was not right TO
recrimnae on perons that had done wrong
He obed that the matters that would come before ue
houf in the examination of this great quelon, were no
le than thsIs America any longer to be dependant on
this country How far is be connected or dependant
To what degree In what manner And among other
oueons it will certainly aie, whether the determination
Of the colonies ould not be given up II Parliament can
not enforce obedience it ought certainly to enquire ths
coneouences of its failure but at all events, It IS what
gentlemen houd attend in the mott ferrous manne---
TO enter into the confederation dpaionaely, with tenn
ner and fnbriety--tha conviction may become the only
mother of the efolutons may come to- he iaia, me
auctions would be extenve; complicated and perhaps,
dubious it would therefore, certainly demand the mott
ardent attention. :.
Mr.. BURxr, in fpeech of near hour and an half,
m forth the aburdy Of the proceedings concerning America
heretofore, ayng were to expect any good rom the
fame perfons who adopted thote meaiues lie iad' we
wanted change of Governors both at home and ABROAD
and was extremely levere the noble Lord NORTH ana
Administrations and aragned the whole of their conduct
fore they preiented their address, promng to rede evils,
il would be more parliamentary to enquire whether thoe
abues exed as to terminating, it was very proper, as
we might then fee aud learn hom experience what sood
might be produced.
Lord GERMA1NE fad, in his opinion, our repeating the
stanp.Aa had made the Americans think we had no
rght to tax them and in great meaiue was the eauie OF
eur preient msfortunes.
Mr.. E. BURKE replied to him.
General CONWAY, ina hort, but maiterly PeeIh' iee
forth the nature of the proceedings heretofore and ao IN
his ooinon had the Stamp-A9 not been repealed, we
hould entirely have lot America be iaid we mutt now
come to a reioution, either not to tax America
in his opinion, we had right to tax them that tney
were loyal people, might be Teen by ther io'ef
conduit.
Mr. w BuRYE fpole much in favour of the Americans.
Colonel BARRE, in fpnted ipeeeh, arraignea inc W
,dyc Of une prited meafres and ad, their being thus
faeous proved rongy that they we're bone OF our
bone, and hcih of our Heih.
Lord NoR ld as the time allotted for the reading the
papers was Thuraay but there were more OF them tnan
he r imagined he had objection to pofponing the
reading of them until Friday next and on MONDAY next 20
refolve upon them.
Mayeb o. Mr. Edmund Burke, in the Houie OF
Commons on Monday, vehemently detained againit the
adoption of hottie meafures with repea to the Colonies
He affirmed that the evils fulfilling in America were OF
sv nature and that 10 propofe military remedies tor the
correction of civil sbuic TO act in direct contradiction
to every principle of found policy; bedes the execution OF
Plan Of the kind had been, and would be, IN every poPu-
lar government found impracable. The magfate mutt
act in concert with the military every effort OF the lat
ter would prove futile and abortive. Every law process
relative to the life liberty or property of Engh fuhee
befpoke Popular origin, from the Prefentment OF the
Grand Jury to the final adjudication of Petit jury The
principles Of government, therefore, houd have repeet to
the Denory gfbf cogqitatioa and as that allowed Of
no appeal to the fword but in conjunction with the civil
power where the Magaracy refued to Cooperate MILL
tarv force nuh turn to little account. Theie petitions,
applied to America, would, Mr.. Burke ad, hold good in
every refpea: The introduction of an army would not
change the opinions of the Coons the men who thought
hemfeves -treated now, would not be Of different ient-
ents when the bayonets pointed TO their breaits and
nsfs b an alteration of nealures, YOU efe6fed change