The Massachusetts spy, or, Thomas's Boston journal. [volume] (Boston [Mass.]) 1772-1775, 1774-05-26


that be made and taken in this committees during
this whole eions; iflo, Sir, Ould be glad to give Hiy
poor opinion, and add my mite of peieryation chat
country. could have wihed that the noble Lord when
he forming this cheme of favaon to this country
would have lea conded that there other parts
of the internal government necey to be put under iome
regulation. mean particularly the internal government
of the Maiachuietts-Bay with to fee the council Of
that country the fame footing, and on the fame tate as
other colonies There is degree of abiurdty preient,
in the election of the council cannot Sir, dagree with
the noble Lord, think he will do better thing,
than put end to their meetings. would no.
have of mercantile ea, every day collecting them
elves together, and debating about political matters
would have them follow their occupations merchants,
and not conder themielvss mniers of that country.
would alto with, that all corporate powers might be given
to certain people in every town, in the fame manner that
corporations formed here hould then expect to fee
iome ubordnaton fome authority, and order. do not
know by what power thoie to be formed, but win
that they may be formed by lome. Again, Sir, think
that the method of Grand uries ought be much at
tended to- They choe for life, and have yearly
faay, and thee the whom your life and proper
~ is intrufed Your people know to whom to make ap
pcaton, when law and uitice whed be iubverted
by favour and affection. Your petty jures elected an
nualy 70 many perons in each towns to thee men of
tenders know how to apply and when any riot happens be-
tween the military power and the people of town, the
jury being taken principally out of that town, the power
of the life and death of the Offenders is lodged in thoie who
are offended. Theie Jures, think require great regu-
ation They totally different from ours, and, in my
idea, carry with them not only the hghe degree Of abfur-
dity, but ub to be laid Aide, to commit the hghet
and mott papabe enormtes again luee and the laws of
the land. / would not with protraG the noble Lords
BILL either by frightening it out degree which he does
not with CO. oppoie the meaures which he has
already adopted. would viih bring the contribution Of
America as near and hilar to our own as poible,
would with the Council of that country Gmilar Houfe
of Lords in this. would with fee Chancery fats de-
termned by Court of Chance, and not by the Aembly
of that province. At prcfent, their Afembly is DOWN
right clog upon all the proceedings Of the Governor, and the
Council continually thwarting and oPpofng any proPo
on he may make for the eewity and welfare of that 60
vernment. You have Sir, government, Governor,
the whole the proceedings Of tumutuous and rotous
rabble, who ought they had the leaf prudence, to fol-
low their mercantile employment, and not trouble them
elves with politics and government, which they do not
undertand We are told by gentlemen, oh Do not break
the ehaer do not take away their rights that granted
them by the Pedeceors of the CROWN Whoever Sir whes
opeee uch charters, without due correction and regua
ton whoever, Sir, wihes for ueh iube6ts, with them
woe than govern them. Put this people, Sir, upon
free footing of governments do not let be every day al
rtng rights by words, and they denying authority
and preventing the execution of laws. Let us Sir pee
we're refining that government which uppor ite
and proceed in the have begun, and make
doubt, but BY manly and eady perseverance, things may
be eored from fate of anarchy and conon, to peace,
quetude, and due obedience the laws of this country.
Lord North. thank the noble Lord for every popo6-
ton he has held out they worthy of great mind, and
fuch ought be adopted And indeed lay, that
at prefent there any objection what is proPoed being
regulated foe future period If any thing tend to
the relief of the peent dreHes in America, it is the
anity Of this Houf, of Of all fuch abilities the
noble Lord, in the projection ofmeAiures nece to be ta
ken. Every propohon the noble Lord has mentioned,
eonfdes with my mind fee the ProPney Of them and
could with adopt them. 1t is my propotion to cofe
this committee, before other mealurcs may be Offered,
which for ought any thing know, may have degree Of
preference hole have this day propoed. |, for my
own part Sir, al think of the proportions made, and
receive them be eanvsed by greater wdom and abilities
than mine. clear, with the noble Lord, that the
contribution ofths charter ought prevent parliament
from interfering regulate hole matters in America, which
the indgeed meaes of their charter have perhaps, pre-
eiptately been in ome degree, of preventing the
peace and quetne of that country from being reored.
Mr.. Phpps got up, but the Houie being noly he was
not much attended TO.
Mr. Pownal ALTO fpoke, and ufed much the fame kind Of
arguments he had done in the former debates giving nc
always does, very fenbe and udcious of the go
vernment Of America and concluded, with giving the
Americans the character of contentious, good, religious,
fet of people, and that there not, in all his Maeys
domnions, more respectable fet Of Perfons exiting.
Leave given bring in the bill, for the better regu-
lating the government Of the province of Machaies
Bay without any oPPofton.