The Massachusetts spy, or, Thomas's Boston journal. [volume] (Boston [Mass.]) 1772-1775, 1774-07-16
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MI for he was not enabled ret torn any oPni-
an whether the bill before the Houe proper Dill OF
not as copies of the charters whn had been ofdefeo
before the Houfe yet laid ne would venture 70
fay that no man knew the contribution Of that govern
ment il was therefore tmpoible for HIM 70 Lay IN
what manner he would eorsa OF amend IL.
Sir Gsergs SaVie fad, he had not troubled the ou'e
before on the occa6on but he could not help ooiefvns'
that the meafure befoIe the Houie, was very
doubtful and dangerous doubtful as 10 the psoPh.V
Of reputation and dangerous TO It's cohie9uenee; .'
charters BY iscred things, and are only
to be taken away by due coure OF law, either as Ps
n6meot for an offence, for bfeseh OF the CONTRACT
and that can only be by evidence Of the facts nor could
he conceive that in either of thoe cafes there could be
any lnch thing as proceeding without tar hearing OF 9'o
pares This neaure before tsefns to be moit ex-
tsodinary exertion Of legislative power Let Us uppo
a kaie granted to man, wherein was covenant me
breach of which @ould iubeet him TO forfeiture o. MS
leaie- would court OF uf'ee require evidence o .ns
fact why then will you proceed different from the line
.-beb aw.v, obierved in courts of juiiee You are
now going 20 alter the charter, becaue it CONVENIENT
In what n,nner does the Houle TO take away TINS
charter when in fa they refue hear the parties, or to
90 thro legal couYe OF evidence OF the facts. Sha-
tered rf hts have, ell times when attempted 20 DC s
ed or taken away oeca6oned much boocihed and ifre
and whatever Peon IN this Houis nave advanced, na'
they do ROT proceed upon h1 ba6nes but with 'Fem-
bling hands, do ALTO aure them that have ihewn my
fears uoon hi. occaon for have away from every
auelion. except one TO which gave my regatlve. lido
not like to be preient at buhne, which sh'nk neon
6ieut With rhe dignity and juiiee of chs HOuie uem-
bic when am tor fear Of the coneqoenees snd ithink
a. le exraordnafy that Mr. B0ildn ihOuId be admit
ted TO be heard an American agent IN the h0tlf
Eads, when in the HoEle Of Conmons he was Ieiosd'
believe /, is true thar the facts let forth in bis petition
to this Hcue were different from hols which he preient
ed to the Hnue of Lords in declaring hmief an n-
habitsnt of Bottom, and in the other emitting It, can
o conceive il pofibe to proceed this bill upon the
imsIl ground Of evidence which you have had.
Mr.. W. Ellis muR rife, Sir, with great confidence
when differ from the honorable gentleman who ipoke
isA wboie abilities 70 eminently great but THINK
Sir that chartered rights are by means thoie iaerso
shines which never can be altered they are veed IN me
Crown the good Of the people alareej
if the fupreme legislature find that thole Charters 10
granted are both unfit and nconvenent for the public
utility, they have right TO make them mt and con-
vsnient wherever private property 70 concerned, the
eRlaiufe will not take away without making fun
recompence bur wherever the regulation Of public matter
IS the cbsst, they have right ccreet eontrou or
sake il away as may ben fut the public welfare. The
Crown may fomesimes grant improper powers regard
TO governments that be effablihed, will not be
highly proper and neceaTy that the legislature ieens IN
what manner the Crown has been i-advfed hould take
il into their confederation, and alter il far neesay.
been eaabed in the infancy of that contribution, and
regulate them for the public welfare. Is charter. not
eonffen with the public good be continued The hon
enable gentleman fays much blOodhed has been oeca-
oned BY taking away or altering OF chartered rights
grant il bur il has always been where enerosehmenss
have been made BY improper parties, and the attack has
been carried on BY improper powers Tic aio lays, TINS
form of in America ought not to Be altered
without hearing the parties ;-the papers on your ts>
be- urev are ucent evidence ofwhss they have 10 fay
in their defence look only into the letter dated the
10th of November I77z wherein the Governor applied
% the Council tor asvcs and they Neglected giving it TO
him and ALTO wherein petition was prefsnted TO the
Council by certain perons who applied for protection TO
their during ihefe durbanee the Coune with
giving any anf~er, adjourned for 10 days. and the
Governor not able TO do any thing himfeh without
their opinion. Lock spain. Sir, into the refeluton
which thecounei when they met again, Eating
the total infcieney Of their power. This, iurey Sn,
is evidence competent to ground this bill upon We
have GOT farther than u TO alter tbes two parts,
sted by themfsyes Surely Sif, that form OF govern
which will protect your property, ought to Dc
ltered in fuch manner % il may Be able TO doit.
Gen. coszvay What intend fay will not delsy tbs
Houfe long am very iuss what intend 20 FAY will lit
te desrve the attention Of the HouIe but the fvbje
Of that importance thar requires . The eonieqUence
Of this bill will be very important and dangerous. Psrls-
ment cannot break into right without bearing the
parties. The qveiiion then is innpy this Have they
been heard VIVA, becaufe the papers lay murder had
been committed, does IL follow they have proved II !
46adi 6Ifyam parton, maxim / have long adhered
70 but il iomething 20 nconent with parliamentary
proceedings rot do h that am shonifhed at II. The
Council are blamed beeaufe they did NOT give that ad
vice the Governor which he wanted. think, Sir, the
Governor might have acted alone, without their sanee
Gentlemen will conder, that this not only the charter
Of BOOn Of any particular but Of ALL
America. Are the Americans not to be beard .-Don't
chsie content and agree about appointing ssent
think there no harm upon this oceshOD, 10 Areehrga
point and would rather have Mr.. Bollan, agent
of America Though he little irregular in bis appoint,
enr oOner than leave be fsd, that this bill Pasd
without it. The Hoz)s bring Vodfs,eHs, he faid am
afraid tire the HOuie with my weak voice if that Is