457-10011-10048 AGENCY: SSCIA RECORD NUMBER : 157-1001 1-10048 RECORD SERIES: TRANSCRIPT AGENCY FILE NUMBER : Document Information ORIGINATOR:  SSCIA FROM: TO: TITLE: TESTIMONY OF ROBERT MAHEU ‘DATE: 07/30/1975 PAGES: 95 SUBJECTS : - ACCOMPANIED BY COUNSEL: GALANE, MORTON R. GIANCANA, SAM WIRETAPS MAHEU, ROBERT ROSELLI, JOHNNY MAFIA CONNECTION DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT CLASSIFICATION : RESTRICTIONS : CURRENT STATUS : DATE OF LAST REVIEW : v9.1 HW 50955 OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS : DoclId: 32203316 JFK Assassination System Identification Form Agency Information Unclassified Consulted; 1A; 1B; 1C; 3; Donor Restricted Redact 07/19/1994 SSCI Box 252, Folder 5 Page 1 Date: 7/30/2011
tape Phone (Ageg 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 HW 450955 10 ll 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20° el ee TOP SECRET 19 am not too far off in what I am about to tell you. The contract was structured in such,a way :that as the bottoms of other companies became obsolete, they could only be replaced with Onassis’ tankers. ‘Even ARAMCO had to, by attrition, within a period of four-and-a-half to five-and-a-half years, would have, if their tankers became obsolete, they could only be replaced by Onassis tankers. Our statistics, after having studied the contract and making what we considered to be proper projections, indicated that at the completion of approximately five-and-a-half years, Mr. Onassis would control more dead weight tonnage than the United States controlled in its entirety, that he would control on the high seas annually more oil by tens of thousands of gallons more than were used by all of the Allied nations during the most severe year of the Korean War, that in the first year his profit would be approximately $17 million dollars, that after five-and-a-half years his annual profit would be in the area of $200 million. While this analysis is going on, we also found that a ‘Million dollar pay-off had been made to one of the top ministers in Saudi Arabia and we had the evidence | | We then prepared our inputs and presented them to the BDoclda: 32703616 Page 3 TOP SECRET
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 HW 450955 10 11 le 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20° el ne 25 24 29 TOP SECRET 20 National Security Council -- Senator Huddleston. Of the United States? Mr. Maheu. -- of the United States, and within a matter, I believe, of forty-eight hours, our State Department denounced the agreement. It was the first time that anyone | had actually seen what this meant, and frankly, there was an innate fear that with the initial $17 million, then there would be no way of stopping, I mean, he might go to Venezuela and do the same thing, and there were also other inputs about the background of Mr. Onassis that I would just as soon not make a matter of record, but they were not too favorable, that we presented to the National Security Council verbally but not in writing. Mr. Madigan. Who made the Presentation? - Sanator Schweiker. What subsequently happened then with the Security “council denunciation, et cetera? Mr. Madigan. The State Department denounced the agreement and that same evening we were told that twos officials were on their way to Saudi Arabia. Then I proceeded to dig up the gentleman by the name of by virtue of reading about the country, because I'm not about ready to go there and not know about the customs and thea formation of the country. I dug up a man by the name of who was living in Connecticut who turned out to be the first American who had ever really been accapted by Bocld: 327035016 Page 4 TO i" SECRET
200 3 @ 3 l National Security Council -- Py . . 3 2 Senator Huddleston. Of the United States? 4 3 3 Mr. Maheu. -=- of the United States, and within a matter, | 4 | I believe, of forty-eight hours, our State Department | 5 denounced the agreement. It was the first time that anyone | 6 had actually seen what this meant, and frankly, there was an | ] innate fear that with the initial $17 million, then there would 8 be no way of stopping, I mean, he might go to Venezuela and 9 do the same thing, and there were also other inputs about the 10 background of Mr. Onassis that I would just as soon not make Ll amatter of record, but they were not too favorable, that we 12 || Presented to the National Security Council verbally but not 12 in writing. WARD & PAUL. 14 Mr. Madigan. Who made the presentation? 15 Senator Schweiker. What subsequently happened then with 16 || the Security Council denunciation, et cetera? 7 Mr. Madigan. The State Department denounced the agreement 1g || and that same evening we were told that two CUA wes. 19 officials were on their way to Saudi Arabia. 20° Then I proceeded to dig up the gentleman by the name of 21 bby virtue of reading about the country, because 22 I'm not about ready to go there and not know about the customs 23 | and the formation of the country. I dug up a man by the name 24 of{[ fw was living in Connecticut who turned out 25 || to be the first American who had ever raally been accepted by HY 50955 DBocld: 322703516 Page 45 TOP SECR FT 410 First Street, $.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 eH LO il 12 13 WARD & PAUL 14 15 16 1? 18 19 al ad 24 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 25 20° 23 TOP SECRET 21 old King Saud. nbaer had spent time in the country as a Mining engineer to help them in the exploitation of ” mines. It was in fact to| __Pthat the old king gave the power of attorney to come to the United States government or come back to the United States and try to form a consortium for the exploitation of oil from which emanated ARAMCO. fares . expenses. I think his total expenses were slightly in excess of $8,000. He didn't even keep the banking and percentage for himself, or a piece of the action, so to speak, and he was highly, highly loved by the Saudis and although the old king was then gone and King Saud, the sony. was in power, Mr¥ | had the same respect and reverence from the present leaders as he did from the father and I convinced ra that -- he already had a clearance, a satisfactory clearance, and I convinced him to precede me to Saudi Arabia to try to lay the groundwork. . Senator Schweiker. What year was this, roughly? Mr. Maheu. this, I believe, was in '54 or '55, yas. Anyway, I finally ended up going to Saudi Arabia, having a meeting with the King's confidential assistant, presenting al: of this evidence, frankly at the time not knowing if the King . himself had a piece of the action -- Senator Huddleston. Had some of this evidence come from the wiretap? HY 50955 DBoctd: 32703016 Page 6 TOP SECRET
Phone (Area 202} 544-6000 WARD & PAUL a 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 HW 450955 10 ll 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20° a ee 235 24 25 TOP SECRET 22 Mr. Maheu. That tap was entirely unproductive, entirely unproductive. Senator Schweiker. What happened then at your meeting? Mr. Maheu. Well, it's very interesting, if we could take a little time, I mean, I was scheduled to have the meeting “with the King,” but he doesn't show, he stays somewhere else. and the confidential assistant shows up and one trusted ee ne minister that he had with present. And my meeting was scheduled for 8:00 p.m. one night, and this happaned to be the last day that the King was supposed to be in Jidda, he was then leaving for the capital further inland, Jidda being the only major port in Saudi where he spends his summers, and they were having a big parade for him, and from the balcony of the hotel, I'm watching the parade go by, and finally the King's car comes and he is arm and arm with the: nan on whom I'm going to give the evidence that night, and I frankly was not too comfortable, particularly in view of the fact that in those days -- and r don't know whether it has changed, but in Saudi, the same document did not give you permission to enter and leave; you had to make application for an exit visa after you arrived, and I was in constant contact with the then-United States Ambassador. He made it very clear that the government approved of everything I was doing, but if something went wrong they could not come to my rescue, I would have to be the fall guy, and I was prepared to do it. That was Docld:32?03616 Page 7 TOP SECRET
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 10 li le 13 ° & WARD & PAUL 214 15 16 1? 18 19 21 22 20 24 410 First Street, $.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 25 20° TOP SECRET 25 Saudi Arabian government would have its flag flying the high ! i Seas, and at the time that all of this is going on they are building what then, upon completion of production, had been the biggest tanker in the world at that time, a ship named after the old King, a tanker which was scheduled to go and take a maiden flight and take off, and it turned out the biggest problem that we had was to find a save-face gimmick. But finally the whole thing was accomplished, and it took two and a half years to do it. Senator Schweiker. I didn't maan to get you off the track. Mr. Maheu. Well, I'm sorry I am so verbose. Senator Huddleston. You said you bought a paper in. Athens? You mean by that you actually bought the paper or just paid them to run the story? Mr. Maheu. Wea bought a newspaper. You'll have to understand, Senator, that in Rome, in those days, there were fifty newspapers. I mean, the big circulation -in those days, ‘big circulation in Rome was 20,000. It's hard for us to visualize that. Senator Huddleston. __ Mr. Maheu. Yes. Can we go off the record? Senator Schweiker. Yas. HW 50955 DBocld: 3272703316 Page @ TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 30 1 Mr. Liebangood. Was this listening post that you referred” za to, was that a project that was related to work for the Central 3 Intelligence Agency? Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 4 Mr. Maheu. I don't believe it was. 5 Mr. Madigan. Did you have any New York assignments other 6 than Onassis that you gave to Frank? 9% Mr. Maheu. I don't remember any. 8 Mr. Madigan. How about | may have asked i: 9 you that yesterday. Do you recall whether he had any relation- 10 ship with your company during the 1950's? 11 Mr. Maheu. I don't remember a | “oy i2(¢ «+ WARD & PAUL 13 Mr. Madigan. A CIA employee. 14 Mr. Maheu. I don't recall his name. 15 Mr. Madigan. I got sidetracked off of my question of 16 whether you recall a prosecution or an investigation of the 7 Onassis wiretap. You may have already have answered that. Mr. Maheu. . I think I did, yes. 18 8 19 Mr. Madigan. What did you say? d a) 20: Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that I appeared before a é ” £ 21 Grand Jury that was investigating Mr. Frank on another 3 u 22 matter. é 23 Mr. Madigan. On another matter, but you had no recollection @: 24 of any investigation of that particular tap? < 25 Mr. Maheu. No, I don't. HY 50955 DBocld: 32703816 Page 9 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 31 8 3 : a 3 1 Mr. Madigan. Either an investigation of you or Frank or g 3 2 Leone or anyone? 5 , . F 3 Mr. Maheu. No, I don't. 4 Mr. Madigan. No interviews by the FBI? 5 Mr. Maheu. It's conceivable, but I don't remember it. 6 Mr. Madigan. You don't remember it? 9 Mr. Maheu. No. 8 Mr. Madigan. Let's go off the record. 9 (Discussion off the record.) Ll ad a a le g ao & 13 3 2 4 Mr. Maheu. Yes, Sir. 18 Mr. Madigan. And what were you asked to do with regard + 16 to that? 1? 18 pe 8 19 3 a Fa 20° 8 § 21 = a 22 5 23 2 S 24 ¢ 25 HW 50955 Docld: 327903316 Page 10 TOP SECRET
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 15 16 17 18 8 19 J Q e 20° 3 5 21 = 4 22 Ff 23 2 RA = 25 ' TOP SECRET 32 Mr. Maheu. fives, I did. Mr. Maheu. I don't have any recollection. Mr. Madigan. Mr. Maheu. Seve raul momensy. es Gee a Bal Mr. Madigan. Cambie rovVaeh eenameyod Mr. Maheu. That is correct. | . * Mr. Madigan. Now can you date that assignment as sometime in 1956 or '57, does that sound about right, or do you have | any recollection: of what year it was? Mr. Maheu. I don't have any recollection. It was before HW 50955 Docld:32903816 Page 11 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 33 1960. Mr. Madigan. It was sometime after you had begun in '54 with your Agency operation? Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 Mr. Maheu. That is correct. Mr. Madigan. Or your sponsorship? Mr. Maheu. That is correct. Mr. Madigan. Subsequently, did this Leader "A" come to the United States to your knowledge’ after this? Mr. Maheu. I don't recall whether he came subsequently or prior to. | Mr. Madigan. when the same leader did come to the United States, were you involved in any assignment for the CIA with regard to his presence in the country? WARD & PAUL Mr. Maheu. Yes, I was. Mr. Madigan. And what was that assignment? Mr. Maheu. © uN 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 Mr. Madigan. Who was the Agency representative that gave you this assignment? Did. you go through Mr. O'Connell, or was HY 50955 DBocld: 32703616 Page i? TOP SECRET oe 2.
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Wasnington, O.C. 20003 HW 50955 LO ll 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20° el 22 Lo 24 25 TOP SECRET 34 it someone different? Mr. Maheu. This request emanated from, directly from the State Department. Mr. Madigan. Who in the State Department? Mr. Maheu. Mr. Scott McCloud, who was then Director of the Office of Security and Consular Affairs. Mr. Madigan. Was it coordinated with the CIA, or was this strictly between yourself and the State Department? Mr. Maheu. My recollection is. that the CIA was kept apprised, however that the coordination was with the State Department, in connection: with the security that was being provided for this leader during his visit to the United States. Mr. Madigan. Did you meet with the State Department or CIA people or both in New York City when the leader arrived there? Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that I met with Security Personnel of the State Department. Mr. Madigan. What did you do in New York for this assignment? (Pause) Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. Mr. Madigan. And did you meat with the New York police with regard to the assignment? Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. tea ee ras rrr nae Mr. Madigan. MDiG@ moan Cie. sewel OvEle amy Sous DoclId: 32: 03616 Page i3 TOP SECRET
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 HW 450955 TOP SECRET 35 1 2 Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. 3 Mr. Madigan. ‘DO you recall telling me yesterday that you . 7 5 Mr. Maheu. No, I don't. 6 Mr. Madigan. Did you travel from New York to any other 9 city with this leader? 8 Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that I did. 9 Mr. Madigan. What occurred when you arrived at the other 10 cities? ll Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that I contacted the 12 security representatives of the State Department. 13 Mr. Madigan. And after you contacted the security 14 representatives, what were you supposed to do in these other 15 . cities? 16 Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that I, through local Shey rm OR Mr. Maheu. I don't know what you atchy by relations, 24 Mr. Madigan. . 295 Docld: 32403616 Page 14 , TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 pies po beets “Mahau. I don't recall. Madigan. Do you recall telling me yesterday that you WARD & PAUL Maheu. No, I do not. Mr. Madigan. Do you recall telling me yesterday when I asked you whether someone had travelled from city to city, you indicated that you thought maybe one did, but you weren't sure about how many others. Mr. Mahau. That is correct. Mr. Madigan. How many cities did you visit during the trip that this Leader "A" made? | Mr. Maheu. Several cities. Mr. Madigan. 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 HY 50955 DBocld: 32703816 Page 145 fe TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 3 37 ae : 1 Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. i z Mr. Madigan. Do you recall telling me yesterday that they : 5 5 were? 4 Mr. Maheu. Do you recall yesterday identifying the * 5 leader? | 6 Mr. Madigan. I do.. 7 Let's go off the record. 8 (Discussion off the record.) WARD & PAUL Mr. Maheu. That they may have been, yes. Maheu. That is correct. Madigan. And that occurred in New York and the other cities that he stayed at while he was in the United States? Mr.Maheu. That is correct. 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 Mr. Madigan. # HY 50955 DBocld: 32903616 Page 16 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 38 8 i 1 Mr. Maheu. No. 3 2 Mr. Madigan. But.you did not bring a crowd of six or 5 5 séven. 4 Mr. Maheu. I have no recollection that ‘ingitravelle 5 with me, may have travelled independently, but I have no 6 recollection of being on the same plane with any of these v4 people. 8 Mr. Madigan. You think may have traveled from city to 9 city, or four or five? 10 Mr. Maheu. One may have gone to one further city. That 1l is the best of my recollection. al ~ P @: — cs) Q & 13 z 14 15 Mr. Maheu. That's my recollection. 16 Mr. Madigan. Is that the theory of the project? 1? Mr. Maheu. That's my recollection. 18 g 19 a) a e 20° § é 2] Mr. Maheu. Yes, I did. 3 wl 22 1° Mr. Madigan. Do you remember when that assignment was 5 23 || in terms of whether it was before or after this visit to the . 24 || United States? Ad 25 Mr. Maheu. Subsequent to his visit to the United States HW 50955 Docld:32303816 Page 17 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 Mr. Madigan. As a result of that, what assignment did you receive,.if any, from the CIA? WARD & PAUL a pea aes mas plotires,. a wWanet whe Recksad|: 14 Mr. Maheu. Yes, I did. Mr. Madigan. Who was that? Rei Races SES 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 HY 50955 DBocld: 32203816 Page 134 TOP SECRET
HY 0955 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.£., Washington, 0.C. 20003 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20° el 22 235 24 Z25 TOP SECRET Mr. Maheu. I have no recollection. I can't balieve that where you would find geWiegon: I don't believe so NO. Mr. Madigan. Was that Bautzer? Mr. Maheu. No, sir. Mr. Madigan. Who. was that? Mr. Maheu. ‘First I discussed the matter with Howard Hughes and he recommended that I contact Mr. Larry Crosby, whic I did. Mr. Madigan. Did Hughes have to approve your being involved in this? Mr. Maheu. I am not sure he had to approve. I was just seeking his advice. Mr. Madigan. You wera more or less just telling him about = cr cA) Docld: 32203516 Bage 19 TOP SECRET
Phone {Area 202) 544-6000 he 10 ll 12 13 WARD & PAUL 14 15 16 17 18 19 al ee 29 24 410 First Street, 5.E., Washington, 0.C. 20063 25 20° TOP SECRET 41 Mr. Maheu. I beg your pardon? — Mr. Madigan. You, were just telling him about it? Mr. Maheu. No, Mr. Hughes had been in the industry, he had been in movie studios, I thought he could ba helpful to this contract. Mr. Madigan. Did you deal with O'Connell with regard to this contract or with somebody else?_ Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that I dealt with Mr. _ O'Connell and Colonel Edwards. Mr. Madigan. Colonel Edwards? Mr. Maheu.. By today's technology, I would say definitel no. Mr.. Maheu.... Not: at alli... Mr... Madigan. »-Not.at.all?_ Mr. Maheu." . Not at all.. H¥ 50955 Docld:32203816 Page 20 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET g 42 a 1 Mr. Maheu. I don't recall, but my recollection is Sim 3 ; +s g 2 was highly respected by the law enforcement authorities. 2 5 Whether@emepiwas an informant for them or what the ralationship igen 4 was, I don't know. 5 6 ? Mr. Maheu. Very short. 8 Mr. Madigan. 9 10 Mr. Maheu. No, I did not. 11 Mr. Madigan. p 5 . Fy 12 & : 13 Mr. Maheu. That is correct. 3 : 14 Madigan. And thereafter do you know what happened 15 16 Mr. Maheu. No, I do not. 1? Mr. Madigan. Were you told what was going to be done 18 3 & 19 g fa) ¢ 20° 8 5 21 Ea ‘ prazacarcseneossrere as ul 22 SOSA. 5 23 Mr. Madigan. Were you aver familiar with the project name i e4-|| that were attached to these assignments by the CIA? gt 25 Mr. Maheu. Not that I recollect, no. HW 50955 Docld:32203816 Page 21 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 43 to] 8 r 2 3 1 | Mr. Madigan. Did you ever hear of project Happy Days? iv ° : . $ 2 Mr. Maheu. No. qt 5 3 Mr. Madigan. Or Project Harp Star? 4 Mr. Maheu. No. 5 Mr. Madigan. Or Project Norfok? 6 Mr. Maheu. No. 7 8 9 10 Mr. Maheu. Yes, sir. ll Mr. Madigan. What was your assignment in that regard? 3 a 12 g F & 13 Fs 14 15 16 17 Mr. Madigan. And who did you contact with regard to that? 18 Mr. Mahau. I contacted Mr. Gregson Bautzer. 3 19 Mr. Madigan. Is that Bra~u-t-zZ-e-r? 5} ) 20° Mr. Maheu. B-a-u-t-z-e-r, a Hollywood attorney. So ., ato, £ 21 Mr. Madigan. And did he hold thegoanevethat you refer to? a 22 & 23 = ) 24 ¢ : 25 Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that the intent was to HW 50955 Docld: 32203816 Page 22 TOP SECRET
HW 450955 Phone (Area 262) $44-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.£., Washington, D.C. 20003 LO 11 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20° 21 22 25 24 Bocld: 32 SASH Pea vie ise Mr. iMadigan. Mr. Maheu. That is correct. sage 2 TOP SECRET
HW 450955 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 Pnone (Area 202) 544-6000 12 13 14 15 16 17 18° 19 20° el ee Docld: 32203316 TOP SECRET Mr. Mr. Madigan. Mr. Maheu. Mr. Madigan. Mr. Madigan. Maheu. I have no recollection that I was askad. Do you know who that person was? I do not recall the name. You indicatéd that your recollection: was Was your assignment in that regard Wi was that the end of it? Mr. Mahsu. That is my recollection of it, yes. Mr. Madigan. Did you have any other assignments Yegard to that Leader "B"? ~ Mr. Maheu. I have no Mr. Madigan. Did you regard to Leader "A"? Mr. Maheu. I have no Mr. Madigan. Did you with regard to any other leader of any other country? Mr. Maheu. I have no Page 24 t recollection. have any other assignments ‘Yecollection that I did. undertake any other Agancy recollection that I did. TOP SECRET 45 solely with with assignments
HW 50955 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 el 22 £9 24 29 20° TOP SECRET 46 Mr. Maheu. That name is familiar, yes, now that you mention it. Mr. Madigan. Do you think SeSghight have been the person? Mc. Maheu. I think’ Gg pnight have been, yes. Mr. Madigan. Did you contact Howard Hughes with regard to that assignment? Mr. Maheu. No, I did not. However, Mr. Bautzer was, in those days, Mr. Hughes' personal attorney. Mr. Madigan. Would you date thatge ssignment as being around 1959? Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. It was before 1960, but that would sound approximately right. Mr. Madigan. bid you ever have your office in Washington used for cover purposes by the CIA? Mr. Maheu. Yes, I have. Mr. Madigan. Do you know on how ‘many occasions? Mr. Maheu. On several occasions. Mr. Madigan. Do you know what the purpose of the agent that would be using it for cover was? Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that my rola was limited simply to fund their income. In other words, tkey would be on the payroll of Robert A. Maheu Associates and that I would bea reimbursed the exact amount of their pavroll. As to the specific assignments, I have no recollection. Mr. Madigan. What types of duties would they have for Docld:32203816 Page 25 TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 51 3 ‘ 3 @ 8 1 an employee who was working in Bat some point in their o . rn 3 2 career? < ; ; F 3 Mr. Ma&heu. Yes, we did. 4 Mr. Madigan. Would you recall that to be around 1968, 5 or do you have a specific recollection? 6 Mr. Maheu.~ It would be about that time. 9 Mr. Madigan. About that time. 8 Mr. Maheu. Yes. 9 Mr. Madigan. And did you ever hear of the name “# 10 with regard to that cover arrangement? Ll Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. My recollection is that the 12 guy's name was [Bout I don't racall 13 || the namég Perhaps he was placed on the payroll as vaddl butt I don't recall. WARD & PAUL “45 Mr. Madigan. You did not address him ag | 16 Mr. Maheu. No, not to my recollection. Ne 17 Mr. Madigan. What was he supposed to ba doing irl 18 do you know? 19° ° ~. Mr. Maheu. Covertly or overtly? 20: | Mr. Madigan. Both. 21 Let's start with covertly. 20 Mr. Maheu. Covertly he was -- he had an assignment from 2% the Agency which I don't know. Overtly he was an employee of 4106 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 24 Robert A. Maheu Associates trying to exploit the possibility - 25 || Cf business ventures in the countrm | HW 40955 Docld: 32203816 Page 26 , a TOP SECRET
HW 450955 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 LO ll 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20: el Re RO 24 20 TOP SECRET 52 Mr. Madigan. You have no inclination or no feeling at all for what his assignment was? Mr. Maheu. No, I do not. Mr. Madigan. In covert terms whether it was an espionage assignment or whether it was a PR kind of assignment? No idea? Mr. Maheu. 1 don't know. Mr. Madigan. Was there ever an island involved with that assignment to your knowledge? Mr. Maheu. Not to my knowledge or recollection. Mr. Madigan. You never heard of an island called Lave you? 7 Mr. Maheu. Not to my recollection. Mr. Madigan. During the 1969's did you employ. a fellow by the name of Jack Buckley? We may have discussed this before. Mr. Maheu. I believe that from time to time a Jack Buckley did work for Robert A. Maheu Associates. I don't believe he was an employee. Mr. Madigan. Would he be on a kind of an intermittent contract basis like Frank was? You would use him every once in awhile? Mr. Maheu. My recollection is that he did some work for Robert A. Maheu Associates and, as I say, not an employee. Mr. Madiqan. Do you know what types of assignments he did? Docld: 322703616 Page 27 TOP SECRET
HW 50955 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20° el £2 25 24 20 Docld: 32203316 Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. TOP SECRET | Liebengood.. Mr. Mort Jackson? Maheu. I don't remember his name. Madigan. Mort Jackson being an attorney -- Liebengood. -- in Los Angeles. Al Long of the Secret Service? Maheu. Don't remember his name. Liebengood. Beformer ly of the Céntral Intelligence Agency; a resident of Florida. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. you were Mr. Mr. Maheu. Don't remember his name. Liebengood. Maheu. Don't remember his name. Liebengood. ‘James McCord? Maheu. Only what I saw in the newspapers. Liebengood. But you had no dealings with him while in Washington? Maheu. Not to my recollection. Madigan. Just briefly, in that regard, we discussed yesterday whether you had any racollection of Mr. McCord being involved -- or at least I think we discussed it -- in any either sweeping of your office or electronic equipmant or using of Mr. Mr. your office as a listening post er anything like that? Maheu. I don't. remember. Madigan. And your indication was you didn't have any recollection? Mr. Maheu. No. rwe22 «6. «Ss FOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 77 1 payroll, and for the sacond time I was turned down by Mr. 2 Hughes. I believe it was in September of 1969 that I finally Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 3 called Mr. Meier in and requested his resignation and then 4 I informed Mr. Hughes that he had resigned. 5 After the departure of Mr. Meier, while going through his 6 files, Mr. Ellson ran into some documents that indicated some ” very serious double escrows on mining properties and we 8 recommended to Mr. Hughes that all the information be made 9 available to the authorities and let the chips fall where they 10 may. ll Mr. Liebengood. Do you know why Mr. Hughes was not inclindd 12 | to follow your recommendations with regards to Meier's termina- 13 tion at earlier datss? WARD & PAUL 14 Mr. Maheu. He was afraid that Meier would embarrass him. 15 At least, that is what he told me. 16 Mr. Liebengood. You are aware of no CIA interest in 18 | Mr. Mahéeu. The only thing I know is that Meler was cut 19 in on the cover gf SCédé was aware of 20° that operation. 7 21 Mr. Liebengood. How did that come ahout? How was he 29 || cut in on that? ; 23 Mr. Maheu. Because it was he wha initially had worked on 24 a deal for a venture in Mexico on the part of Hughes Aircraft 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, O.C. 20003 25 for cable television and subsequent to -- well, when that 55 Docld: 32203316 Page 29 TOP SECRET
tape HW 450955 Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 WARD & PAUL wy) oF 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, 0.C. 20003 LO il 12 13 14 15 16 1? 18 19 el 29 DoclTd: 32203516 Page 30 20° 22 23 24 TOP SECRET 78 collapsed, the person who was to be the partner of Hughes Aircraft in that particular venture threatened to sue Howard Hughes and all of the Hughes interest for non-fulfillment of contract, and I made a recommendation to that person whose name slips my mind, but I beliave his last name was Jamie, J-a-m-i-s or something like that, I don't recall. But to try to discourage him from filing such a lawsuit I suggested that he and I put up $10,000 in [Bana check into the possibility of developing business there. i put up my ten, he never put his up, and Meiar was the one who was involved. But when the Agency needed a cover for an assignment in fF Agency. Maier was made privy of this by the Mr. Liebengood. Just to be certain I understand, this was because of Meier's role in reestablishing the operation ing sik Is that correct? Mr. Maheu. Well, of trying to save the lawsuit, yes. That's right. Mr. Liebengood. And you think the name of this would-be partner was Jamie? | Mr. Maheu. I don't remember whether that was the first name or last name. Mr. Liebengood. How did[ HIvnatever way do you spell his last name, do you recall? Mr. Maheu. I don't recall. TOP SECRET
TOP SECRET 79 1 Mr. Liebengood. Do you know who accompanied Meier and 2 F. Donald Nixon on this trip'to. the Dominican Republic, the Pnone (Area 202) 544-6000 5 celebrated trip? 4 Mr. Maheu. No, I do not. 5 Mr. Liebengood. As far as you know, they had nothing to 6 do with any Agency interest in that? 7 Mr. Maheu. No, sir, not as far as I know. 8 As a matter of fact, it's my recollection I found out 9g about this aftsarwards. 10 Mr. Liebengood. Who else was witting of the cover 11 arrangements that you had with the Agency through Robert A. 2 12 || Maheu Associates? You mentioned Maier and this particular 3 t 13 one. Did you have other employees who were witting of the z \ 14 cover? 15 Mr. Maheu. I believe “Bill Staton was aware of some of 16 | it. | 1? Mr. Liebengood. And did he keep your books? 18 Mr. Maheu. Yes. 19 Mr. Liebengood. And outside of the Ppieier was 20°] not witting of any other cover arrangements, I take it? 21 Mr. Maheu. Not to my knowledge. 22 _ Mr. Liebengood. Do:you tecall-who~the other personnel wer 23 || through the years that obtained Robert A. Maheu Associates ’ 24 | cover for the Agency? 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 25 Mr. Maheu. I don't. HW 50955 Docld:322$3816 Page 34 TOD GECRET