HW 54756 ee ERE ee tee te arene ns mine weet Ds pntnentn EG MEER Men nM One of the Company grounds for the discharge was that Ferrie refused to cooperate when the Company was conducting its investigation in January of 1963 to determine what action, if any, the Company should take, The transcript of that hearing (Co. Ex. 68), wherein Ferrie refused to answer _ even simple preliminary questions, is clear proof of the charge, No defense whatsoever was offered by the grievant on this point, justifying the Company action on this ground alone. | Ferrie took the position that the Company had no right to reouire him to cooperate in that investigation. In making this contention he relies on Section 29-A-(4) of the Agreement. According to Ferrie, the Company must first take some action and then, at the first step hearing, he could be required, for the first time, to offer some explanation or be required to cooperate with the Company's investigation. A brief example in another context should be sufficient to show the absurdity of this contention. An aircraft may be severely damaged ina landing and at least three possibilities exist (there are, of course, others) as to the Captain's responsibility: (1) The Captain was a hero who saved the lives of the passengers, (2) The Captain was caught in unusual circumstances and neither contributed to the accident nor could he prevent it. (3) The Captain was careless and caused the accident, According to Ferrie's contention, in order to get the Captain's side of the story in order to determine whether he was a hero, or a victim of circumstances or careless, the Company must first discharge him and then discuss the matter with him - a at the first step hearing, Of course, Ferrie's interpretation is absurd, The Company has an absclute right to investigate and question an employee about things that might affect his employee status. The employee must cooperate or lose his employment. As every individual realizes, when you take a job you must give DoclId: 32263970 Page 355
HW 54756 up & portion of your right of privacy or face the consequence of being discharged, This is the effect of the decision of Judge Kehoe in the O'Neill case. (Co. Ex. 69.) Ferrie, in his defense, relies on the Callaway decision of this System Board of Adjustment. Ferrie interprets that decision as holding that, regardless of his activities off the job, he cannot be discharged unless he commits some wrongful act on the job. There are many distinctions between the Ferrie case and the Callaway case. The Callaway case involved only a single incident between two employees, known to only one or two individuals who were not Eastern employees. The Ferrie case involves practically a man's entire life history and actions known to virtually &@ muititude of potential Eastern customers. Certainly all the people in the New Crleans area with knowledge of Ferrie's activities must have a distorted impression of Eastern's pilot personnel. Can one conceive of the Espenans, the Yaegars, the Landrys, or anyone knowing even a portion of the story patronizing Eastern, if they felt they might have Ferrie as their captain on the flight? Ferrie's relationship with his fellow employees must also be considered. Could the pilot group at New Orleans feel any pride at being an Eastern pilot if the standards for that position are so low as to include Ferrie? What would be the reaction of newly hired copilots or flight attendants who would have to work with and associate with Ferrie on flights? Would they have the respect for him that must be given to the captain if flights. are to operate efficiently and safely? Indeed, would families in the New Orleans area permit their daughters to become Eastern flight attendants, knowing that they might well have to work with Ferrie? The imagination boggles at the thought of the letter a new flight attendant might write home. "Dear Mom: I have just had my first flight and have met my first Eastern captain. His name is Captain Ferrie, and he has had a most interesting background and past .. ."! -~ 20 = Docld:322763970 Page 356
HW 54756 Of course, the most interesting letter would be the one "Dear Mom" would fire off to Mr. MacIntyre, explaining just why she had ordered her daughter home. | Merely to pose the above questions is to supply the answers as to the reasons why Ferrie's conduct requires the termination of his services with Eastern, The above discussion relates primarily to Grievance 48-63, the discharge grievance, Grievance 15-63 was filed on January 17, 1963 and it alleged that Eastern had violated Ferrie's rights by not restoring him to flight status as of January 9, 1963. It should be noted that this grievance was filed on the very date that Ferrie was originally scheduled to appear in Miami to supply information to the Company regarding the charges of unlawful acts and: other improprieties. It is submitted that the primary and only purpose in filing this grievance was to attempt to supply some sort of legitimate basis for Ferrie's refusal to cooperate with the Company. In any event, the Company had told Ferrie, by letter of September 6, 1961, that it intended to wait until after the criminal charges were acted upon in a final manner before deciding what action it should take, (Co. Ex. 59.) Thus, he had written notice in 1961 that his suspension would continue after the criminal charges were acted upon and until the final company action should be decided upon. His time limit started running in 1961, if he thought this procedure was unfair. When the Company received notice on January 10, 1963 that all the criminal charges were at least temporarily out of court, it acted that same day to set in motion the machinery for reaching a final decision. (Co. Ex. 65.) all delays thereafter were solely due to Ferrie. Grievance 29-63 was filed by Ferrie on February 18, 1963, alleging four grounds of complaint. The first was a refusal to "air original Grievance in Docld: 322763970 Page 357
accordance with Section 30," This apparently relates to the postponement of the first step hearing in Grievance 15-63, However, this postponement was agreed to by counsel for Eastern and Ferrie, (Co. Ex. 66.) The second ground was refusal to provide "pilot with written specifications of reasons why he is being held out of service." Ferrie had actually been told in writing twice why he was suspended. (Co. Ex. 56, 57, 59.) The third ground was an attempt to "compel Grievant to give testimony prior to any scheduled Hearing." This apparently refers to the Company attempt to have Ferrie come to Miami to offer any explanation he should choose to give concerning the charges and allegations which had been made against him in New Orleans, This ground, as already shown in this brief, is also without merit. The fourth ground was “otherise preventing him from exercising any of his contractual rights, or complying with a Company request for an ‘informal hearing.'" This charge was so vague the Company has no idea what it refers to, In any event, both Grievance 15-63 and 29-63 could only call for a monetary award, During the hearing, Mr. Gill, on behalf of Ferrie, waived all monetary damages and thus, in effect, waived Grievances 15-63 and 29-63. (T. 210.) CONCLUSION On the evidence introduced at the hearings, the Board should and must find that Grievances 15-63, 29-63 and 48-63 must be denied. Respectfully submitted, William G, Bell, Jr. September 9, 1963 ~22=— HW 54756 Docld:322635970 Page 358
REPORT 70 SUPT. OF ponies PROM sure pUREAG, nat catsans 3/8/61 -— [ sunseots contatiutin to the delingueney of a hiner resulting fron the runéway of ilexander Landry, sm, 1S, of $202 arte St. The subject alteged to be contriinting “48 out be 531 athertonf ar. nctatrie, | _ | of 7 «retro Fouenter ard Soa ret with ar. and mrs. Landry and obtained the following - | info: soc Naa RONCHI ‘on 8/2/61 young Landry van ariey and | was found ay hours lates in the company of et, dut 1s commander of a cap unit. ot landry Was returned home by lawrence marsh. . On 6/5/81 Landry ran away again, As of 8/7/61 be had not returned, parents called police on 8/16/61. parents expressed lack of confidence in dvt. since Landry joined the cap he hasn't been the sane Me Landry has snvestigated the cap unit and has notified the fbi thas he does not believe at has cap sanction, uf has Loaned his car to Landry and has ‘taken the cap boys to _ bars and bought’ then beers. the Landrys furnished the fhULowing nanes:. richard | danas, Leo bevon, james landry, Layton nartens, John espenan, or espanen, lawrence - marsh ‘and two unnamed friends in biloxi and corpus chifsti, texas. | me ge oe es a oe os ; a oy Bee 7 — o | Petts contacted Pumase he ts 16 and lives at 2338 Hadrid st. ° dynes has been in — | eap squadron for 2 nos. he has slept with aut and has had sex r=lations with hin.” ; says duf is a hypnotist. dvnas has seen duf put jim landry under trance and tell him | © te forget his girlfciend. ; ut sold danas he hates wonen. | 38M sas Lanciy with def, - on 8/1/61 oxtside valter building in duf's car...they were waiting to pick up L. nartens, HW 54756 Docld: 32263970 Page 359
os p0900 | oetteors teamed thet nartens &s working for sas. sas's secty, Nancy Walker, identified | ; 7 picture of Landzy and said he had been in office tice since 8/5/6l in the company. of dots swanter (lf that dé and martens had volunteered their services to sas. | |, Fotice contacted exseaane otra to helps © | SAN/ 6 Mee. ty sectoved call toon Laniiy tn houbin + Lanrymitsaye he'TD wetunn "Af nother 2) allows squadron to continue 2) contact Bastern and help cuf 3) contact “other parents and tell then to withdraw anti-dyf statenents, - save afternoon. sas cAlled police ssys dwf had been informed of investigation. sas has statment from d@f which says the Landry came to him after running away fren - - hore. “auf! tried to nake him return, .and in fact drove hin home but Landry Ben avay "again because his father and grandfat's planned to beat him, landry is afraid for his “ute. “ang recieved phone call fron landry in houston. auf told Landry to cane hone. says mrs. Landry supervises boy badly. — |_ tavton martin contacte + he £5 19 says he sonstines stays with dul. his aother recently - noted and he doesn't know her address. he seldca stays vith his tanity. © teers could get no further info, spent. several right at at's with cther boys. denies knowing of dul's sox activittes o [_sonn aepenan contacted. he is 1h lives at 2338 Dreaux ote he adnits sleeping at dwf's. denies krfiledge of sex activity. ‘Mrs. &. advised police her son has stayed out HW 54756 Docld:32263970 Page 360
_* 3333 - late at night after order to cone hone early...was at duf's. 7 ee (os. Landry says Buthh (lawrence) marsh , 195 hol fajestic Caks, Sefdeeply involved | wath out but has recently broken away. marsh was th. one who found landry on first | runaway occassion, “marsh works with father in construction business, narsh told mrs. 1 the dul would only drop andy when heta found soneone else. agi | Gace says Ait jut went to landry's school ard tried to chanse landsy's schedules The school called mrs. Landry and said that the proposed schedile ws too dittiolt, |_ orice contact aut: he denies rocesiony doing anything wrong. he questioned officers. yas interested tn Landry's welfare. insisted he dicn't know where Landry vas in houston. said he was flying to houston that night to see ie can find hin and return him to poet | | | 7 ; | rash contctecs be t 18. Says "all boys go to Ferrie when they sun avay from hone". “denies ony knovledgeot dut's sexual vers Has known dwf for four years. oe | sas c. “mae cops. sve ty will rettrn if varents sign ste statement indicating they" not presi charges cine wt. ‘gas asked buat etabovent be sotntaed - : the bay wild ye anand hia stout-Spm an cops should be there. - Ls and ne. Landry agried to statonents . Gas cops went to ses otic, ses has not called, ; [Ls 25pm Lendry eatied, sas told hin to come ome. | | ani arsed at Sui was take do vente tress. ne parents. showed no emotion. | HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 361
* refused to make any. statement against duf. said he was. going to sue parnnts. said - “he'd hitchhiked to Mississippi gulf coast on 8/5/61. returned to noo. 5 or 6 days later, spent 8/1L-8/15 with dwf. hitch hiked to houston and stayed for week in 7 ~ rooming houses. called dwf from airport on 8/17. hitch hiked back to n.o. 7 admitted dwf had taken cap boys to bar and bought them beers. | landry taken to Youth Study Center. 8/21/61. landry said he'd been to cuba on several occassicns sinee revolution. also “gays American should wake up because russions are only 90 miles emay. . refused to szys when or with whom trips were taken. assissant supt. of youth center says landry's case is similar to Albert Cheramie. _ oo “visitor's record book checked and shows Dr, D, Serrie visited Cheramie-on 8/4/60 at _cenfer. visit marked "not official" but acting as professional man seeing a pfatient. Juvenile bureau ch: ck shows Albert Cheramie handled for running away on’ 8/1/60. He was found at dvf's. | ones cates a on 8/21/61. ‘asked is be had Dr's degree, was he treating anyone? : dut stated he hed desres tn peycholoiy and he gave advise. def also adnitted sistting ‘AG. but says he realized later that the visit was anistake. . |_ ts Landry gave cops hane of sac mor crvnet, 26, 0 $505 lareis St. rte is cenber of wap. oo a | L 8/20/81 crouchet made a statement: says dwf committed act of crime against nature with © HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 362
him on tuo separate occassions... jefferson parish investigating. “erouchet corrobonstad cheranie matter. seid when ac ran away, he(crouchet) was told ‘to wateh for hin returning hone and bo bring him to dwt. duf was going to send him to | corpus christi.  - | sye0/ér porsce search dwf's apb...found no obscene literature. found a US, passport “in name of Fumes Albert Peut Cheranie dated 6/2/60 (shoving birth as 9/6/13 and a picture of cherante who had run away on 7/9/60): ave vas questioned re passport. said he had 4 nade up for cheramie so he and ‘others could go to Honduras to nine, os © te thes cnasante say he knew of passport ,.sdidn't approve and had been trying to. , get i back, “police also found the statenent nts andape. Landry had given to sas. —_ gut vooked on 6/20/61 ; | [sete tnteyconactds he is 16, Lives as 3006 Dunaine st. says he has been served . gatskey ane vou GZ outs. says he has had sex relations with def three ‘inde in 19614 \ sxte menaet crouches cade statenent on 8/20/843, says he mat dut tru cap tn 1959 or 60. | wont to lots of drinking parites at hones of cer feiende and at dvf's. says there was a elvays 4 great deal of drinking, says aut got hin drink om night and then had sexual 7 relations with him. 7 vithin the next to months this hazpened four nore tines . ; says : | auf had shown him obscene books and pictures. dwt has told him of 8 sex companion of his im houston. says out. keeps books and pictures in his laboratory aboue his : "garage. auf has beaten him. auf has corrupted at Least 20 other wate ide, the HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 363
ce . et . Je . ; oo, es " the sqaaddron is badly conducted by dwf. ( James landry made a statement on 8/23/61: Says hte he met’ duf thru father who. works . for eastern, james was in Sqaudron. says he went to drinking parties at duf's... mostly stag. dwf has show him obscene books and paekkoersxx pictures, says he has TT TARR ene teeate tenga cut a Rad a scabsnaN tS: ~~ seen al landry "high" at some of these parties, says he has slept at duf's about 7 time and has had sex relations with him. . Docld:322763970 Page 364
a oo pe - ee ¢ arent ogee | dake Item H-6507-61 Bee 8 JOSEPH I. GLARRISGO : BT ee Saperintcadeat af Folica Be PROM s SGUST C. LANG, Lieutenant co AQ SL ag Commander, Javenile Bursaa oo SUBI SCT: Contributing to the delinqueney investigation, resulting fron a the runaway of Aloxandor +endry dr. "i Age 15 of 5221 Arte St. fho subject alleged to be contributiag is Dave Ferrie WM edult. residiag 331 Atherton Dyive, in Metairie, La. “Pata Rolend Feurnier and Charles Jonsa report of having been asoigned to @ ease iovolving a: runaway on Vodacsday August 16, 1961, efter beles® : Bo Gipocted by LE, sages t C. Lans, asting comasader of ths jevenlle Bar eat. investigating ogriosrs mot with Mr. and Mra. Alexander Landry at $221 Arts. Bey who ave the parents cf rungway jauvealle Alezsander Lendry Jr. WY Age oe 1S-of the seno Sddrggg, Fron Mr, and Ura. Landry tho following iaforaation _wag.obSained. On Atgust 2, 1961 Aloxandor Landry raa avay from home and =~ 24 hours later, was found at tha home of Capt.Dave Perrio, @ pilot with - Easfera air Lines, who resides at 331 Athartoa Drive ia Metairie, La., and wha-gappesedely is Landry's anit commander with the Civil Ale Patrol. _ Wpysaad Hea. Leadyvy explained Shet they zalled Dave Porria's residence to sca if thoir boy was there, and vas told by seas aaddeasified votco that — - theirs boy was ace at Forria’s rosidones. Ue. and Mrs. wendvy atated that thay endo this know to Lawrence Harsh ®Y Azo 18 ef 4404 Majestic Oakd Stes . . Whatesated that he would rotura Ghelr son home, Harsch woat te Ferrie’ 8. - poaidenasce and later returned with Alezendor Landsy IPe Om August 5, 1961 Al Landry ven away frea heno again, at whiek tis nis parents agala suspected that Capt Porrie was assisting the boy ia als offorts _ %® otey avay fpom hems, As of tho 17th sf Augna? 1961, Landry has ast ree | . GurPacd heaee - co ig, and Bea. Lortey eaprossed 4 leek af esatidease da Capt Dave Ferrle. . @hey stated $208 slase thoie moQ gained tho GedePe agundzen af Gans FESziss — that ko bee avver boon tho sci. *agecraieg $0 My. and Ne, Lesary 28 wis loarzea’ Shes they bad thes far, beos.c odie. sa deteraiae ie Forrio? 8 Civil Ala. Patzaa Sqmdses%s shades a Rp Gr oaSh EXS Pastel Ek¢e, ia Bow | Ovkeans is ceadusting an devect Sig ats Sack oa e eae ato, it haa bos foasd has there is as recera ef Caps Forele’s aig fa Bou Orleans, aad Esp thee Shae Ale Yerece Eaq., ia Fach dagten D, Go Red g9 vosera. Ep. acd. fiese Lendoy Sarthor stated thas cli of 2 Shs papregss ef ths bteys fa the oqucd~ Sea ase ceneeraca abeus 620 valldadsty ¢ o? Gas aal® and ald fed that chal . boys aro £06 gotéing tho preseribed eratolys Tao FeBele wos rotifiod abeat enis easter. Ur. aud Urs, Landry stated thot Pave Ferrio has taken their. £63 08 Zlightc, ead has lcosed .tas boy his caz, while auay. on a flight. — ‘Ure Lasiry sQated tint he persscolly saw Dave Ferrie Qakeo esveral Sho jevenile beya inte a bar and lounge om Eeasdale Avonze fa this eitz. Eve sade etates alse, thas bo has pevasacily observe’ aeevoral soya a% Bas bene a? Porris en several eccasions. Ur, and Hes Lendry state thats . abe tosis bey aot Gaps Yooeks s chad bs B29 68 maay occasions, stayed : ea$ ‘eahsa 3 ©P S$ e’eloek in the coraing, PES Lend C73 | Shoned Lavestigatirg elsisegs & wablisawisa | oa ths Pet LEROAEBA, BSS oat by Cams Poarzise . 3% aay soscisacd Sienandas Dabs fa foathore thst be wea doles. “sig SOBA et esheel, however Ur. and Urs, Las Ld ePLisers that waa GSURZO beseusa the foes ia shoe thoir on iy ‘algoot failies og HW 54756 DBocld:32263970 Page 365
+." Bopert Continusdesee. Page-2 Iten HeS507-61 Ur. Landry furnished officers with the names of two of thelr son'a ': £rhends in Biloxi and Corpus Christi, Texas, Radiograms were seat to both: . ' locations on G-15-$2, - ae Mr, Landry furnished officers with the following aanes ef boys who 9. were fa the Squadron with their soa; Richard Dunas Wit Age 16 of 2328 Madrid, Leo Bavoa Wi Age 16 of 40 Azalea Drive, in Gretna, La, Jases Landry Wi Age 16 of SOOS Dumaine 38%., Layton Martons Wi 430 19 address azknowa, whe iz: alleged to be living with ferric, Joha Espanan WS dge 1S ef 2339 Droeax AVGe,. and Lawrence Marah HM Age 18 of 4404 Majosa%e Oaks, | ae a \ Tavestigating officars went ts the hero of Richard Dumas Wi Age 16 _ Of 2558 Ucdzid S%., who told officors that ho was in tho squadroa for abouts —~. 2aenths. Rishard stated that.oa abous 2 occasions he slopt a8 Cans Perrio'a: ~ROUSCe, 22d that on one occasion, vuhen Laytea Wartons and Al Landry wore’ , — Sheba, Ao (Duras) slops in tho sano bed with Caps Porrie, and that Capt ; Porzioe aasturbated hia and at tho sano tins Cant Porrie masturbated bine — +@0lf, Eumae did not know if Landry and Uortens witnessed the aet, Dems : — Btated that Capt Porrie did this to hin on a Saturday fa tho first or second - wees of Jaly of this ycar, Bums stated that Cant Ferric was a hypactist ang that bo ence saw Verrig put Jases Leadry anfier hyponosis and toll Aia (Lasizy) that bo should forgot his o Gaps Yorrie told Dumas that ha hated Richamd Dacas also told officers that after the ransuy ef Al Landry, ... @a éagass S, 1961, Al wap soon dn the censany ef Capt Porrig on Monday = |  dagent 7, 1061 at SsCOTd catside af the BalGor Butlddinae 4a Cast Forrie's . . ear ant that thoy wore pisking ep pogses Uarteas five werk Riehard stated Gha$ Al Landry was alse seoa by tas Lolger Bulldies oa Puoeday Angst 8, 1661. A statemca’ will bo taken fmm Daras es to Shs Latooens behavier satter ant will bo turncd over to Jofferses Parloh oatheri@les. Lt. Heary Sardeaga has _ @lirecdy beom eoti?ica of the statenons ands by Deras. a _ Lgvestigatiag effisers loarasd theo Leytes Marstons was wostties im an %-\ office La ths Balter Ealldies for a sabtca Grgaadiaatiea Rolsiag Gadea Fetegoos ia the earrong Caban situaties, whieh ds aocdod by Ur. Apoaaha Pnith, ux resides at 112 Egret St. fficora teas to Ghin office oa Cho a?Ser geen ef : 4agest 13, 2081, bat wore anabls te lssate Er. Snith om Laytea Martens. Miss . Raasy Walker, secrotary te Ur, Salen eas okowm a pistuss of AL Landry, the - Pansway boy, acd she immediately ddontificd Bia. Sha stated hag Al isd besa $0 the office oa tra aucsessivo days, watch she thsacht wore @ Upnday - esd g Tuesday. Sho did mot know tho Gatos that shoe seu Landry bad stated 7 Bhasie was definately aftar daemst GS, 1952. Hho stated thas Landry cea tai | thao sompaay ef Dave Yorrio en the 8c oscasions. EBetss This cas after - tas rasceay date ef Ai Lacfivy. IG sas aloo loaracd thes Gant Porrie bad voluatcarad Bis semuices So tire Enigh a’ter tha Cabas situction broke, os — Rd Leytoa Masters, Ules Walhor’s Anformatien cemouhas verified the abatoe . SSSU Baie by Richard Deaas. Tavestigatins effleces left the office acd later | egatestes He, Sanita at bas residenco aeg ka offered $0 holy sffisera locate Sci eccliag the bey 4n ths effice bat could ast ay Ge teye Es too med renesbda: Bcs2sder the dates Ga dngnst 27, 28a ad PIES Neo os4 Hire. Lantsy resolved a salk fern Shelg cca fa Eoustca Pomaae Ea tela Dis nother thaG thore tas a S809 chase Gho3 bo woald Cvo? potera Rezo. Eo tan4d als aothor ths¢ bo would pcteops mice ths fohiculag threes alsesastivese SO ee ae HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 366
" Report continuedess.e Page=3 Item He8507-61 . Altornativedesse. contdnued.coee 1. that she allow tho squadron to roorganize . ts 2. that she contact the Airlines and axplain thie matter. to holp Capt Ferris, because he was about to lose his job. , ; Ts Se that she contact the parents of the other boys anil... have thom withdraw onything said about Porrio. ee AL Landry ¢u% the conversation short vith his mother, and sho was Oe unable $9 get any infermation exespt tnat she heard the opesatay say Ghat tho all was ¢ening frea daston, Texas. Investigating offisers .- wont to the tolephone company and they will attempt to learn the . legation ef the oall ino Houston. They will also check calls aad froa Capt Forrie’s house to Houston, if any. Ca the afterncda ef Angust 17, 1961, User. saith called officers and - pequasted that /we coms to his office, which was imsediataly done. 3 We. Saita explajned that Gant Torrie bad ceag to sco hin end that ms, ‘3 a Mp, Snith mend i i tie. Gaith stated thos he hei a statensat prepared by Capt forrie in nforacd Capt Yorrie cf the investigation boing condusted. "4 nds effies and turacd tha statersnt over to investigating offieors. I wes typed om a plese cf? plain solid bluo paper and tiil 50 catered Ade gvideneGe In this statesoat Forrio stated that Al Landry cage to : jnim after ranatag eway fro héece of August 5, 1831 aad that he (Ferrie )  @edyised the boy to rotura hens. The statemeat ef Ferrie indicates that. ho(Forric) drove Al Landry back hens acd dropped Aim off at Filacre “and Arte 8t., but that 42 Roa aeay again, 4% LG:COF the sene aight "Al Larfzy phoned tho Captaia aod Sold Aim thoy 40 bad rasaway from HW 54756 hers besaase ho had seca his father and grandfataer ta the bashss with sexo kind of weapon fa thoir heads. Al told Capt Forzio that he was afraid of his life because the foriiy had threatencd hin befare, eccerdiag $e the statensat of Persad. Gags Fasrie soys ia his stetcucat that he avggested to 42 to rotara to nip house, bat Al rafesed besauso £9 felt shat his pavents would call. Gao polieo. Hote: As shown 4a sarts of this ropors, tw persons gave —  Btatcncats thas avter ths atte «& Gho mumeway, Al was sooa la Forsie eonpany, waleh diserodits sho statcseat personally prepared by Dave ce Porzic o . a In past S ef the stateront, Yortio agtated @nas ho reselved a eall froa Al from Housten, Texas, and that ko advised tno boy to eoturn a5 that he woulda’s leso bis jod. Ia thin conversatios, 41 Landry asasea $e $ho captaia thas he bad to have sexo pretestioa fron tho polige agaitss tho things tko paroate ware doing. Gaps Forrio ia his SsESCEs mS, Gise complains abeas the way Heae Lacisy raises and aupcr= vioss ¢hs bee . - gerisers sapyiene’ Layton Hartors “i Aso 19 a% 6h effisse ia tr Balser Bata ieg bs appearacd ts be aithkaléic: Javorastios, Es stated @hae ta seratics staya with Caps Forris, an@ thas his gotaor dast Beem Ay esyel eck bp woen’s to cortala ef bor cddpesae. Es valéaa etayea with his fentlye Ure Lenci7 ec Riehawl Demo hed prorioualy —  saged thas Waertens fs alvoms at Yerrie’s resideoncs. It waa Japeseibls to gos acy further tatomation out of this bey.  Contiausd.ces. Docld:32263970 Page 367
: oo wee 459 (a are ST ee ar a e Ss Report Continued... Pago-k Item H-8507~61 - Invostigating officers attempted to interview James Landry at 3006 Duma ine / S8., who was out of toun on vacation., and it was not know: when he = $ would roturn. — Officers spoke with Leo Beyon wh Age 16 of 40 Azalea Drive, Gretna, La., Whe stated that he had spent soveral nichts at Dave Ferrie house alon - .. with many of the other boys in the squadron. Ha stated that many of ‘them } —-. %o sleep on the floor. Ha dented having any knowledge of Ferrie's sex : activity. Gfficers spoke with John Espanan EM Age 14 of 2338 Dreaus St., and he too admitted sleeping a Dave Ferrio House but deniod having knowledge of Davels Sex activity, Mrs. Espanan told officers that on one occasion, she had to edmenish Jokn for coming back fron Perrie’s house at 12330AM, when he te should have boon home at 10:00PM, a | rte ‘Investigating of fi¢ers presently attempting to queption Butch Marseh WM - Age 19 of 4404 Majestic St. Offiears learned frea Mrs. Landry that this “boy was deaply involved with Capt Ferrie at one time end that he finally —  bBreke away fren Ferrie, Butch Harsch was responsible for finding her sen ° .. a& Porrie’s houze whea he ran away from hone on august 2, 1961, Butch _ £8. presently working with his father in the constricticn business and hag gobeca sway from Ferrie, Hersch told irs, Landry that the only way her . soa will leave Porrie, is when Ferrie finds semasno else and drops her sen,  Mps, Landry explained that Marseh is growing up and finally realising that. he was wrong. oo . Mies, Landry oxplainad further thas Cast Forrie ucnt 86 far as te go te hor son'a seheol and try to sat his sehedule @nanged ang that sekheel |. authoritica called she and Mr, Landry dexa to the sehcol, The schoel  guthoritios felt that-the bey eculd nes hoadle the schedule, propesed — '. by Vorrie, Ura. Landry potated out that this was ene of the many Ways, ~ dn which Porro has interferred with tho raising ef her sen. | Investigating officers contacted Days Ferrio, He denied haying dene any _ thing wrong, He questioned G?ficore in en offert to learn what informatiea . officers had aginst him, Ho wanted 6 kmeow if anything wculd be doze to him after the boy was returncd, Ha bopped en the idea that he was interested in the boy’s welfare and 701% that things ore toe teugh fer the | boy at heme, and wanted te know what vould be dona to the boy after his a retura. Ferrie insisted that ho didn’t know where the bet waa staying | a 23 Housten but stated that he wag flying to Houston*tenight, to sea i pr can find him end return his te Hew Orloana*®, Fe Tavestigatédg efficors centaeted Lewreace Marach 1S Age 18 of bb04 Hajestia | aks, Yhe report previously refers to hin ag Suteh Harseh, Marsch stated |. Ghat Bs esaisted Kes, wendry ts get hor boy back, became? when he ram away - em Arcot 2, 1961, bocause he know quote "thas ail bteys ge to Forrie whea - . taey ran away frem komo. Hoe denied he aig any kmewlcdgo of Dave Perrie — behavior in regard te sox, Marach has kmow Porrio for 4 yearde an as approximately 3330501 Augest 18, 1961, Investigatire of acer Fouraien, - Posoived a telorkeng eall green >, Arcacha fren the Daiter Eadidings: lie. _ Aptacha Iaith atatci that ho eculd got the bey beck for us, if wo eculid | |. ge8 &@ siemcl statements from Porte indicating that thoy wenld acd prosa. charges against David Porrio. EY, Archeha requested that vo kaye a oo ~ Continucd.eccocescee, _ oe Ree HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 366
"Report continuad...e. Page 5 Item H-&507-61 Continued... the statement from Mr. and Mrs. Landry notorised, Me, 9 o.. Archacha Smith stated that the boy would be calling him at about 5:00PM - and requested that Investigating officers be in his office at 207 Baltar | Building, Officers contacted Mr. and Mrs, Landry and they agreed to Ce prepared the statement after consulting with city attorney Muller and - -. «Lt. August Lang, acting commander of the Juvenile Eureau. Officers oe ' went to the Landry residence and picked up Mr, Landry, who immediately /. -.- drove to have the statement notorised, A copy of this statement is aa _ attached to this report. At 53:20PH, Investigating officers arrived at Mr. Arcacha Smith 's office in the Balter Building. Hr. Smith stated that he had not heard from Al Landry as yet, but was expecting his call. Officers showed Smith a copy of the statement and he nodded his apzea approval, Mr, Smith expressed his concerned again about what would happen to the Captain of the. bo7 was returned, At approximately 6:25PH, the boy telephone the office : “while offieers wora sitting in the office. Officers heard Mr, Smith call him Al and Mr. Smith told Al to com to the office, that he (Smith) was | aleane, Al Landry arrived in the office about 20 minutes after the poscas @all, He stated ku that he had cone from the business area of Barronge 3t., just a few blocks away. ‘when asked why it took him 20 minutes te errive, he answered that he could not make ‘up his mind to giva himself vee Officers took the boy frem.the building. Mr. Areacha asked officers : they would turn over the statement made by the Landry family, over to . Rim, which was done, | . . Investigating officers tosk the boy to the Juvenile bureau, where his. parents wore walting, The boys mother was in tears, and he walked pas} = her, shoving absolutely ne ezotion for his mother and father, after nod seoing thea for two weelts, He refused to make a statement. against David, — Ferrie and at times cetiorhommdtterst ere eto ge! cchemz, became very’ | angry and arregant when Capt Ferrio was discussed. He stated that he liked Gapt Ferris, in tho presance of Investigating officors, he told . his parents that he was going to mako 2 charge against then. He told his ~ parents that he helped Ferrie’s attozscy prepare a suit against his own parents, The boy had 7.CO dollazs in currency on him.at the time, He - atated to afficers that ho loft homo with $52.00. Ms. end Hrs. Landry inssdted that Al hed ea $22.60 when he left hezo, The boy told a leng | story abouts his aetivity while away, and atated that he hitched hikod to the Mississippi Gulf Coast on the night he ran away on August 5, 1961. Ho returned to Now Orleans after akcut 5 or 6 daya and weat to see Capt Forris, He stated that ho spent Monday and Tuesday August 4th and’ 15th with Gpot Porrde and then hitch hikted ta Houstem Toes, where he stayed - fer another weok, He stated that when he was in How Oriesas, with Capt | Ferric, after coming back from Xisoiscippd, he visited the office of Me. Avcachs Snits ia the cempany of Capt Porrie. Note: This again vore?icd the statemcats mado by Rieshard tases and Naney Walker, novaver there is gone cenfusies a5 te the dages, because Miss Walker falt that 4% was Mondey and Tecsday August 7 and Sth, 1961, however oho wag not certain. The boy ecatinucd by statiig that ho left this city ea Tuesday night | Ausus? 15th end hitehed hiked to Heusten, Texas, whore he lived in cheap recsing houses fer a week, Hoe stated that he ealled his parsnts from tho Housten Adirpart, He stated that hs eslled Capt Perrie frea Houston : and learned abseus tho investigation being conducted, and that he finally oe left Houstea on the 17th of Avgus2 and hitched hiked back to Yew Grleana. . Offisera observed that the bey ucs extromely clean and fresh leckding, for having lived a: ke stated for two weeks. Tho boy vas questioned about . HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 369
"Report Continbedsse. FAs-O LbeM mea gus e UE rn cence hig trip to Houston. He stated that he crossed the Huey F. Long Bridge, and went to Baton Rouge, La, cut did not go thru houma, Ia. The routing. maps to Houston will show that you would not cross the river bridge at Now Orleans, if traveling by way cf Eaton nouge to licuston. The boy was. — - questioned about teis end he could not give an explanation. The boy = - flately refused to make a stetexent against sum David Serrie, however he . tet did admit that.Capt Ferrie took as many as 50 boys to Graci’s lounge’ ' on Homedale Avenue, and bought then beer, while they were sitting on the restuzgant side of the establishscnt., The boy told his fether fa the . presence of officers, that he was going to make a charge against his father for giving beer toia juvenile one time, while painting the family home. The boy was extremely cold to his parents, and yet it is the epinion of investigating officers that al Landry cones from ag find ax homa as any boy could ask for. The boy was questioned Curther about his trip to > Houston, and he answered that he did not ramember. | oo after the interrogation on Priday August 13th, 195), Al Landry was taken to the Youth Study Center. Cn Monday august 21, 1941, Investigating officer: questioned him further, while at the Center. He refused to maka a state= — ment. He stated that he had been toa Cuba on several occasions since the — revolution and stated that America should wake up because the ussians, are 90. miles away. He would not say how he zot to Cuba, when he went, or who he went with, He again showed nis unconcern for his parents, . - Investigating offices, whils at the Youth Study Genter, discussed Al © Landry's case with the assistant superintendent of the instituticn, He recalled an incident similar to this case involving a rumaway boy. The visitor's Record Book was checkad and on Pane-a?, the Yollowing entry was made an 8/h albert Cheramie ar. D, Ferrie  Ve5—4535 794 Airline Park . , Blvd, - ‘Investigsting officers observed in the book, a notetion written in red pancil, NOT AN SOFPFICIAL VISIT, indicating that Dr. b. Ferrie had came te see Albert. uheramia, juvenile boy, without authority, acting as aprofessional man seeing his patient, This book according to the Youth study Center policy, can only be signed by parents of a boy, or by professional people who cone | regularly to see juveniles, are wno first ob&Sain pormissica to ese a juvenile, in a professional crpacity. Pageeé3 of the Visiter’s tecarmd Book of the Youth Study Center was photestated by the B of TI, sominiiuiom technitian. | Lloyd Macetri, and will be entered in evidence. Investigating officors checked Juvenile Bureau records and found that oa ae | dugust 1960 tlbort Cheramie waz handled for runing away from home, and - was found at the home of David Ferrio, who was then living at 704 airline — Park Blvd. Lt. A. J. Scardina, thea Juvenile Officer for Jeffarson parish, inyestizated the easo, Attempts are being made to locate the offical record. at the duvenile Bureau in Jofferson Parish. — a fae above case is a similar one to the Al Landry matter. Investigating officers called David Ferrie on August 21, 1961, Ho was asked by Officer Jones, whether he had a Doctor's degrea and was he treating any patients, He stated that he hod a dogres in psychology and that he aidatt troasS anyone but he gave advise. whea ceafronted with the fact that he | vistited the Youth Study Center on S=4-60 to visit Albert Cheramie, he admitted he had, and stated that he realised he made a mistako efter goinge . a era, res erm Canara HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 370
= : tw - Report Continucdescees PagooY Item He8507~61 On Monday August 21, 1961, Investigating officers acquired, from Mo, “Alexander Landry, the namo Erie Michael Crouchet WM Age 16 of Sn $505 Marais Ste, another member of the Civil Air Patrol. Officers + went to speak with Erie at his job and he agreed to egke a statement - _ of his kmewledge of Dave Ferrie. arrangenents were made to pick up Erie at his home en the morning of August 22, 1961, which was accome on plished, Erick was takea to the East Bank Juvmile Bureau headquarters, — of Jefferson Parish, wore he made a full typewritten statement in the —. presence of investigating officers and Sgt. Richard Thompson, of the | Jefferscn Pariah juvemile bureau. Eriek stated in his statenent that . : Dave Ferrie comigted acts of crime against nature on him on two seperate / 96casions, Phe Jefferson perish authorities have the original copy of | _ Crouchet's statement and are investigating the crime against nature : > matter. ay : . ' .Crouchet additionally told investigating officers that Capt Ferrie oo ‘masturbated him on 4 or 5 occasions, all of which cecurred in Jefferson Parish, Crouchet told of having been given alcoholic beverages whikb at Capt Ferriets house. Se Creuchet made a statement which corroborates the matter involving runaway Albert Chpranie, which has been referred to repeatedly in this | | _ report. Crouchet said that when Cheramle ran away from home, that Capt Ferrie instructed him (Chouchet) to wateh Choramio’s house to see if | Chermamie would cema hemo. Crouchet was instructed by Capt Ferrie to = ut Cheramie in a cab and send him to Forrie's house. According to ae rouchet, Ferrie told him (Crouchet) that he was going to send Cheramie.. to Corpus Christi, Texas. as In Crouchet’s statement he reforms to numerous pleces of mmoumirm a ‘obscene literature and pictures, which wag shown him by Perris, whib a . &% Ferrie’s house. a wer additional information, see the statement of Crouchet, which is. "attached to this repors. Ca Szosday Auguct 22, 1931 &s3. Thempsea had a search waorrons propared _ for the vreagidanco of Capt Dave Forrio. AS approzimately 16339045, Sed2e . 6I, Sgt. Richard Theaposa, Cuduty Roth, and investigating orfleors Fournier and Jozau, drove 9 331 Athorten Drive and presented Ferric with the ocarch warrent. Tho entadra house was searched, but no obscene pictures were found, Offlear Pournies found ean official United States .. passport fa the bedroem of Dave Forria.e The mangzoré. mumbor 2185946 ; : 8 USUSS Sp . oa 1629, showing his birth date to bo Sept 6, 1943. Tho pleture in the .  pageport was that of Albert Chermenic, the bey referred te in this Perert, who ran away fren keze ca duly 9, 19090 and was roperted to the uvesile Ewreanm, Esser hs pasapert date of dasunnce 22-60, was — tuo daSeos befere Puorrio’s mnoutheriacd vieis to the Youth Ssudy Conta, SO oco Cocramie in the capacity af a Doster visiting his mticns. Perrig was quoctioned qbous this passpers and ho stated thet he had 1% made fem ALbosa Choramio, because ko and soveral cther peaple wore plone ing te g9 te Honduras te co sexo aiminzn. Investigating offlears conte asted bk. Eughea Gkoramio, Pevhor ef AlBort, who atated that he kmew Of the passress, bus did nos’ approve 6f it. fa, Cheranis said that Ao Eas boca teyliag to got the msepsrs back fer a leng timo. (GonSmMedsseosecooes a Le 5 HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 371
adage’? Report contingcde.ecoecs Pazoud | XIten Ro 507-61 poreng @he searsh of Ferrie’s residenea,; Sxt. Thompaen found a letter signed by Mr. and Mrs. Alexendor Landry, and this letter was 4a an envelope, waieh was ne} postmarked. Ths envelope was mrked "Cuban Roveluticnary Demceratie Front". Officos Fournier was shewn tho letter found by Sgt. Thompson, and it was immediately identdificd aa the statezent - ; Sttea by the Lendry family, and turned ever to Kr. Arcacka Saith, for _ the purpose ef gotting their son back, . _ . . 8gt. Richard sapeen teck Capt Perde into custedy end later booked hin | . Ga the Bast Eaok vail with Crins Asainst Mature and Indecent Behavior with  @ duycnile. Ferrie gave his name ao David William Ferrfe Ago 43 ef 331 _ Atherton Drive. ; me On August 23, 1951, invostigasinz officers questioned anothor member of tho Civil Aim Patrol, Janos J, Landry Kl Age 16 of 3006 Dummine Stes hee to the matter ef Capt David Perris, Landry told of being sorved w and beer while at Porrie’s heuco. Landry teld of Gapt Ferrie showing him ebvscens pictures of roan and waea éommiting the cox act. Landry stated that DavotPorria masturbated Bim, while he was in Ferrie’s bed, - spending the night, Landry sculd not remember the dath, but stated i that Forrie jerked him off abouts 3 times. Landry stated that these agta oseured during tho early yart of 1941. Statement mxde by Landry will _ bo seat 63 Sgt. Deo ox Phempsen. Saveral coples will bo retained by . davectigatiag mrtocbesstee ooo etree officers and made pare of this ropert. 7 The District Attorney will be consulted iu this matter. Any further - . laformation will be reported dn the fosm of a supplonentary repert. ae and *ournatey Weiter, Invests. Officer Investigating officer _ . . Srgcan. davenilo Durcan HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 372
Er. C. J. Sizons - ' Mdam$ Se J. Minissale ; _ . he Investigation Absolving EAL Lh August 1959 Pilot in Suspected Gun Smuggling. CONFIDENTIAL On 8/13/ 59 Customs Agents:.E, Langford and Je yonder appeared in this office to report they ot placed under surveillance since they had a tip that Ferrie may be involved - in a gun smggling operation, Their tip came from the Federal Bureau of Investigation here when an informant advised the FBI that he had over heard a long distance telephone conversation between Ferrie and a male in New Orleans regarding the handling of guns, use of tennis shoes and rope and the apparent takeoff of an airplane after the moon went down. Ferrie was transferred here temporarily from New .Orleans and is staying at the Travelers Hotel, across the street from the old EAL terminal. “After a 26 hour surveillance and background investigation, Langford called to notify us that Ferrie was not involved in any nefarious acts of wrongdoing. The Custams Agent investigators learned later | in the investigation that Ferrle, who is a scout leader, had been trying to promote transportation te South America with the Air Force Transportation Corps, The conversation about the guns, tennis shoes and rope was in reference to a proposed hike at the termination of their proposed flight. Captains John Halliburton and George Diges, who had been notified of the investigation, were contacted to let them know that Pilot Ferrie was not involved in any acts of wrongdoing. We alse advised them that Ferrie had forwarded most of his $200.00 advance to New - Orleans to defray expenses regarding the preparation for the proposed flight for his bey’ scouts. SJMsm cc: Hr, Te. Be cred ghton Capt. J. H. Halliburton HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 373
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