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13-0Q000 4 sank 7 . wae : Sh As, \2, way bey a strech of almost 8 hours. A |was most intertaining, bub only ‘well, Hy bona fides for tho meeting was a call from Ms. Sheila .O'Neil to @ || a day before. I arrived in Tampa. A /is a Little  ZOOSY's, because of a DEA connection (below), ami checked me ont thru. a phone call to the motel by his wife. Incidentally, I used tris to Guatemala and others. to. the New Orleans. area, As to other training “in ‘Panama, & \has no knowlerdre. (NOTE: f& |surgested that Hr, 1? Janaary To Fo CONTACT REPORT. “wALO : ens | former staffer - G29 Bay Pointe Drive “Tespay: Fle:ida 33515 B13-BA-85 10 SUBJECT: Debriofing on Training am} Denolitions Given to Anti-- Castro Cuban Exiles (PLACE ‘Holiday, Inn (fampa: Airport) . Tampa, Florida TIN® : Ws, Jamary. 1977 0900 = AES hours 1. Purpose! to. debrief & pn questions posed by tha Department of- Justice rerardine anbi-Castro Cuban exiles. ‘These questions, in general, covered training and explosives /detonatior dexiagss Bivon to these. exiles. 2. Hootind: or _ bame to my motel room (503) « on Friday 0s morning at -.0900— and departed at 1645, During this time, beth of. us a sat. in easy chatis in front of a picture widow on the 5th foor - lr. A id 9524 of. the talking. Weither of us got up during this certod, marginally informativo as to specific details on the questions prone to him. Ho spins a good story an] remembers people and places very) nane with : Bp 3. Results Be povered the following topice with me: - praining? On Panama and the facilitias used,& the best jcould remember, Ft. Shernan was open in about Aneust or September 1960 to train Cubans for about a 2 to. 3 month period. There were about 40 to 50 men, mostly ARTIMe followers. Whon it was docided a bigger group would be needed, which later becana Brigade 2505, these people were sent to Rotalhuleu (Guatemala) xandxathk in abont November’ 1960. “Actually, the group was split, with some going atm Ay py retired staffer currently in the New Orleans area, might be a good source. Ax \was C/Ops for the invasion Task Force, as. wool as Deputy for PM and C/Ops for JMWAVE at one time.) > - al . ¢ .4 rae CAS coal é ee? : . ; O00 Ky
13-00000 * 8 oy bo Sup lies fit “As be expJogivesn, Boies delay fuses . res contre] dnvises, detonation miberiatis, ele. civen to bhase oxi lo ’ ! Bo lsat, "Look ‘over Lhe supply mamtal for that Gime," Apparent In, ‘the axijdes. word ivan avery thinr that was available and in large tunbities, ~ &  |said-he just could not bain to five nea list what had bean passed, . oe: Infil Teams: After the Bay of Pies invasion, AX | - workel with anfiltration teans. .Tha Agency vorked with those beans f - from vourhly 1953 to 1956. They were in two cabapories. The first were unilateral. leans, traininy and sponsored by the Aceney. The other calarory was “political” toans - that is political group: in soufthern: Florida:wio were sponsoring infiltrations into Cuba, The Agency helpod this later gm calarory by riving them supplies, In the case of both, they usually made a caches in Cuba. The |. unilateral team, as an example, would make a cache on-island, ant zanother group vould pick it up and use it (compart-nentabion). In some cases, teams (both unilateral and political) would not actually make the cache and keep the material in Florida, to be \ “ used later at their. own convenience, In addition, & |was positive . that sone of Castro's troops obtained some of thesa caches, due to foul-ups and. snitchos. These caches containes pistols, rifles and heavier, money - and demolitions. Some of the teams cheated by Roing to the Bahamas and buryinh their stuff on small islands and reporting back to Florida that. they had cached in Cuba, A tated several | tines that there. was no effective control over the "political". _ groups and therefore no. contro] ofer the material riven them, Fron -this, ne may sursige that Agency equipment (demolition included) was. - -in the hands of. anti-Castro Cubans in south Florida, as well as Castro’ S Rebel . Army’ ‘on- ~island. .d, Brigade. Training! Further to demolition training to sAnti-Castro. Cubans,. - A reminded: ms that shortly after the Brirade rwas ransomed from Cuba, Brigade leaders were taken to Palm Beach and talked with President Kennedy. At that time, the US Gevt offered ~ _Brigade members .the chance to join the U.S. areay. This also included ‘infil team members , who were completely seperate from the Brigade, and members of the Brigade airforce. The Army end of this training was... — given at Ft. Banning, Georzia and bepan in early 1953. There, Brinade — members entered the U.S. Army at roukly equivalent ranks - officers. were made 2nd Lts, They received Ranger trainine, plus. jump training. “Thus, A said, if any exiles wore training in dens lations and. related topics, thafo best training was probably riven at Ft. Bennins. Host ‘of these men were in the U.S. Army for oither 6 months or one year...” smo er + ene terwenecre meme eet 6. Cubana Hombing: & ‘was specifically askel about the __ “6 October 1976 bombing tye of the Cubana airliner in the Garibbean.. | A. i said the stroet-word among tho Cuban community in south Florida — “4s that the bomb should have gone off in the plane on the ground. Tho - bombers did not mean to kill all of those people. On BOSCH, the... | commnity does not particularly like him, but admires him because: he had been going at Castro tooth and nail for years, They do not like ‘the idea of terrorism and fault BOSCH and MORALES for this. soe eee cere ncn anenennerline nee ee : . SE eae tonne : “ he \ “a trons ian igi sv nt wae ses eerrealnn te [a ocrdistopecinenorelictaoeeestyeeartsnepes, nt wets d nr upset anasnlSs oa SSUSRNDERERSGRSEPERNDUDENERNEEaEERStERapEReeEneaomnamantentnantammmteremes op nee Met leeetan 3 In sj Caen ti a et mo rane ate enw a ann rai nae ara ore ae epee een aren eee aed SESS eran meme cnmrern Aone
13-00000 ; Po Suing, ‘Fever:  (& had read tha recent arlieles in the “papers: about tha: nbroduction of Swing Fever bLuto Cuba ba tho Asonoy win 1972. He. had wid knowledye of this. a did ask 2f wo had checked l wit ae DIA??? He said vuhon hoe had bean with the Army as) ap Special Ferees type, ib was unbelieverble what the Arar had done di: Uhe way ef Glu Waclary veainine in une States, he mentioned an 9 ne nendetk a training, exercise in NYC, when a fake snbstaneo vas inteo- duced inlo. the water of a hotel where Pres, Gisenhoxser was stayin:. In any evant, kyrt.. & said if Swins Fever had heen inlroducerd vinta. Cuba,’ ho wouldn't doubt that tho Army /DIA h had some hand in il, espocially if. the .so~ called sources claimed it cana out of Fe. Galier. * a ee Assassinations b by the Agency: A isaid he had absolut ely no “knowledge” ‘of: ass sassinations, attempts or plans, by anyone in the —. Agency during: his tour. Not only were they prohibited by the Ager, they wore counter-productive, Tt was explained to him during hic | Agency tour thal. there was a good chance of an assassination bact- firing; that wa. (U.S). are more vulnurable to assassinations than the Cubans or Sovicts..-Therefore, as far as hea was concerned, they were strictly. verboton, _ Edilorializinc, Ax ‘said ib was too bad that the. upper~echolnnsdid not believe in this restriction. On top of thal, they approached tiafiosa to help them. (KOTE: © & /is— rather. anti-Kennedy; especially Bobby, with whom he was in a shoutin.: > + natch during a hearing on tho Ray of Pigs invasion. ) . he. ‘fissa gass SSination of Peruyero: Juan Jose Pernyero, a Bay “of Pigs. veteran a anand leader of the Brigade 2506, was munned dewn Tart So .woek as he ‘loft his home in Miami, & ‘said the vord on tho streal vanong the. han, community is that this was done by tho DG1 as al wasnine ‘to the anti-Cubans in Miami. Feruyero had no enemies - he was not into drugs, crim, politics, etc, Ry killinr him, the Cubans xere «warning the community that they could strike anywhere and anyono. “Thus, watch out: and lay off Cuba and Cuban citizens. If anyono else chad been killed, perhaps the killing could have bean blamed on the mafia, drug dealers, politicians, etc. A copy of an editorial ofrom the Tampa’ Tribune | of 14 Jan 77 is attached, below.
13-00000 ae a i . A ' \ ' | i i Pano Tribune . | “Vt Jan 77 Be | . t , | t . i ‘Emergency in Miami oe “Murder is murder but assas- the resources of a local. Jaw en- . on | oe sination is ‘something else again. forcementagency. re ’ + : . . ; Ty . It's an emergency. . That is why Minini police, oo, oo Seven Cuban. exile leaders Wisely, have appealed to U.S. At ae | ~ have been assassinated in Miami torney General Edward Levi to_ re - ‘ "in the past three years, five of allow FBI intervention in the in- : | TG them in the last few months, Lat. vestigation of the unsolved kil- - es | ee est to fall-was Juan Jose _Per-_ lings. re 7 aed e . « a , , vero, a Bay of Pigs veteran and_ Federal intervention is not, as - leader of Br igade. 2506, punned widely believer, automatic in as- mo yo down. as, he left his. front door sassination cases. The murder of ny last week, coe . a private person, even the politi- Do . Mindless murd ri cal assassination of a manron the- be er is a purely street, is not a Federal offense. on oe ‘local police matter. But the 7 ‘coolly calculated: multiple politi- Before the FBI can enter the’ cal assassinations, not to men- Case. Levi must declare that the | ‘tion assassination attempts, in Miami murders constitute an | rr) _ ‘the city that Cuban refugees “emergency. at adopted, are admittedly beyond . - They do, it is and he should. | --. (NOTE: If not already dona, it might be a good idea to leok into the background of Peruyoro, as far as the Agency is concerned, if the FBI is actually stepping into this case, Naturally, ‘they Swill ‘come to us for information, ) . LO S-B-C~R-E-T *, i Fort lasteedanshenandneatenhtnatatasaneinanadeemeeneantaneaalaanpberraamian ‘ "og
13-00000 ve ( 3 f ie “sassination. of _letlalior: ihile on assessinations, ‘this case ontered “BX. 5 conversation. Ho has no- pers “onal knowle Lie ‘ot una, jhapponed: Again, however, ho gave me the “street word," ede Mba > Lia Cuban community is saying that the sang people who did re) wygent: L cafe reas | ise Pat taDiew x20. peed dee Tamba Fe btn an we mrt ae arranged for “the Lottalior killing - hired and paid tho killors. For this reason, tho Chicaro fanily of the Mafia is furious with “Tralicante, bocause: he is/or Will bring heat on the Mafia. Tho reason for ‘Traficante dolre ib??? Fidel Castro hirel him and paid him well to do it. the worl is that Trafieantea has been cooperalin: with the Dor and Fidel since he departed Cuba, Fidel wanted Rosselli killed, because of Rosseli's part in the assassination attempt against Fidel, A. femphasized that that this is not his theory, but wort from the ‘Sstroot in ) Miami. . i BS CS Show on Cubat. A ‘said C'S is plannine a show on the "Lacaey ot the Bay of Pigs," which should ba broactcast in about. Hay 1977... CBS has already shot ReAnx intervies in Miami, including: one with - Peruyero (above) before he was killed, plus covering tho aftermath of his assassination. Currently, the CSS erev is in Cuba - they hops to film the beaches at the’ Pay of Pirs - which had been ‘suggested to them by A . 9 & ‘has also been interviewed and has given his opinions for the TY showing, Whils in Cuba, the CRS crew hopes to also interviow Fidel - also at the surpestion of Ae The fellow behind the show is named CRILE ami he has talked. té & /extensivoly. According to A 4 the show would have bagn very anli- -Azency in its comments, bunk ho 7 A} has turned this: around almost 180 derreestt! As planned, the .show will be two hours” and shown in Hay 1977. ‘ : 4d : ‘ ke. Brigade: 2506: on the Brigado, (& said he had beon _ san apolitical organization. Individuals of any political shade had “been mombers ‘and politica had not really entered Brirade Association business, Last year, however, they joined with Orlanmlo BOSCH, amonr others, to help form CORU. Now, the Brigade is embarrassed and wished they had never joined CORU. They with-drew shortly after the Cubana ‘bombing in October 76. However, the damage has been done to the Brigade Association, which A  jfconsiders a shame. On the CBS film (above), Fi said he was filmed attending an anniversary meeting. This same meeting was where CBS filmed Peyuyero. 1. Lynch & DEA: ‘when & ‘retired from the _Arency, ho -moved to Key Wast. -HNe cama to the attention of DSA, especially to. Lou Conine, an ex~Agency 6fficer now with DEA.. A ‘ealls Conine an SOB and worso. He went, into a long explaination of his activities with DEA in Key West. -In summary, he was a P/A and ran a string of informants, Because of internal DEA politics, he was blown and left -dangling on a string in Key West. He had to leave town within 24 ‘hours and left his people (informants) there without callinn or ‘warning then, As a result, he lost friends, prestige with his ‘informants (many of them Cyban exiles) and his business in Key West. “In peneral terms, he was treated very shabbily by DSA and regrots vever having mixed with them. He is still in contact with one of Cualipn Genre | : . ‘ sastat 5 nee elena et oes Reems Meemenenn Ate SEES ie BAA om - 5 Ore amen, cone eee eC a noemeepe ence nate Sree “papain te cehateccapimg neste tee et Colony Cons! ne eT
13-00000 oe *eutacte rE! merece tenet penennmhthneentttieetentefaeeanP o>. “our aneofficert en Oot » Accepting ta & 5 tB  [wi LP be roburning to the Agenay shortly. 4 fas familiar with the opera “ion in Kay “osk, Another ex-Arency employee vas alse in- volved in Eis operation, ono c- os rhe vaderslened knew in Vaela wT Seoras os cone: seth fe vloy eonbo abana! 3.7 Bobby DEA he anickly: ose .to’ G3-Lt and was Mrost ine the Key Vest oneration, “When Lt folded, y, adconl ing to A 4, | A&_iwas busted to G5-13 an} sent rack’ to. dashineton, where he is now working in DEA's Inspection Diviston (similar ‘to our IG Staff), & jwas also aware of anothor Ox-Agoney- erp Loyna 5 (fi) Q. { wio was to co bo Mexico under IDA _ideep cover", - - According. Lo 6 } Vo fwan Lo be invelve! in- assassination opsrat ions avainst Mexican dealers am! pushers. Instead, 7 2 ended up in Bl Paso for about a vear and is nox in Miami. The. unlersigned personally know O . f hut did not know of his specific: asSigmnent within DEA. (NOTE: While the above asa little ramb Ling .. ‘this, is the way tho debriefine of | A. / vent ‘all afternoon!) on Co om, A hg Hanuseript: Thad read | Bul's mannseript , "The Bay of rine befors doparting Washinrton, Lynch explained that he had dictated: this: p aper amd had a couple of secrotarias type iL out, Jt is only. in. very rough form and he wanted to wet his thoushts -down on paper... As he; indicates in tho paper, he wanted to get the — facts straight: He. feels that since he was there and part of the invasion, he has “a- unique view point of the Bay of Plies and wants to see thatlhis tory reflects his pobition, As indicated oarlier, A is ‘rather bitter apainst the Now Frontier, the Kennedys anl Camolot. This. is. roflected in his manuseript. & claimed that ‘much of his paper had been “stolen” in that he explained the invasion, for instance, to the CBS crew andl they were using some of his material in the soon to bhne be shown program dasecribed above. In addition, - ‘mentioned. that. he had spoken to tha Agency historian - can't “recall his mame ~ on who is also writing a book (classified) on the invasion. s to publication, iL seems_to be in the distant future. He does not sya to yo to a publisher, where he would xex raceive ‘royalty payments of around 54, Rather, he plans to publish on his own, probably in Miami, and realize close to 100 profit. It micht cost him kka in the area of $5,000, but he could realize a profit of about $30, 000 depending on sales. n, Mise,: A talso spoke abont porsonalitios within the wT aheency. He mehtioned Ted Shackley.,, "Dum'Dum"Dimmer, many people in ‘LAD who had a part in the invasion or JMVAVE. . A, As a member of the retired Agency empluyees associalion that Dave Phillips formed. As: such, he has appeared several times on Tampa radio and TV shows. ‘To me, he appears to be an articulate defender of the Agency. 4. .Conclusion: For me, this was a most interesting interview, ‘As far as results, the interview indicated to me that we can eet _broad-brush overviews from retired Agency employees, and fow details. “To answer specific questions from Congress and/or the Department of Justice, we must continue to dig and come up with documents from
13-00000 -diffiienlt bo’ loentea and relied icvo, many of thar buried in robired @ - a, . ° - « . s . ( ~ Pio i a Acanay files.’ Vafortune: ally: these docunents appear Lo bea most file hop lines... 5. Rose sndations: ‘do should continue to seex information ‘from retired aeroucy Criployees , especially when it appeers that thes wees inbinabes Tuvuivesl Ga Sac pacttoutar event or wibiedts ts which we are 4 tbetasted. This should be a solestive procass ancl used only when wo boLieve tha retiree could contribute te our radiate. inquirys The documented fasts, hovevar, are sbill nested ‘Lo. answer: questions. ‘posed to us officially by other Government. entities, 7 ‘ LA7Ops | Te, .