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n can . ie tc a covplo of other propio thurs with us, but I can't remembor exnclly who. a , Mr. JOrx. Wo realized our position wns very good. Our position for influenging tho convention wns very, very food becavso we had Opie who, oven 1f thay wers not members of No Communist Party, ee Were yory much in ryevemnent with our position, sven Hhoneh these people who were not members of the Communist Party, U.S.A. - would usa rhstorio that muy bo a little diferent fron that of the Communist Party, U.S.A. One ‘person that infvenced people was: Rennio Duyis, for example, ; a7 Pe tn " Mr. Norren. Hisnainecama up in the discussion? Cote re ° Mr. Kir. Right. _ ~ tn, . . Loot. Mr. Nowren. He did not participnte in tho discussion? hoe, Mr. Kaax. No; he did not. He hed othar things to do in othor parts a of the conference, but he-wrs insniioned os a person who was yory, very close to the position of fhe Communist Party, U.S.A., on almost every matter that would coms up. . 7 Pte As I mentioned before, Rennis Davis was involyed,-very deoply, mh ob Dur- with Earl Durham, of the Center for Radical] Research, and hnni’s request, Dayis asked mo to work for him, Davis, 2 ote ed __.So, you con sea that Davis, even thoush his rhetoric may be e bit ot different, it is still very close to his baSic position. Ho iz also very ...5 - close, not only in his positions but in his tactics, becousa-no matter!” -what enyons may sey, 1 know for a fect that he, Davis, conld not hava... + -. ,: traveled to North Vietnam end other pieces in the Red-bloc coun- Loe i: tries without having very, vary close contacts with the Communist =! mn ‘Party, U.S.A. It is not possibla to do that unless you do hava close o> =. contacts. ee - oo, tell pan. Tio: Bin, Noarsn Wes this meeting in Black’s room to which you ra-. .. “.. ferred construed es a party meeting, £ party caucus? ee bg ee erty Mx. Noapzz In other Words, what developad thera was en nssess- ~inent of the party’s position and particularly within the black caucus |: . relating to the Nationel Conierence for New Polities? 00 oy ~ Bir. King. Yes. -- en Pray ot an Mr, Norper, All rigkt, would you continue, please? . | 7. Mfr, Kags, Well, I can’t remember whether if was that dey or the“ “i. next one, we were on the floor of the convention making yarions notes ', > end Sugeestions and the caucus had coalesced by thattime Iiwes,in- -. |! >. ORY Opinion, in very rood shape. We hed people ivho had baen involved ©.” -. iin SNCC, people who had been involved in RAM, people who had — + been invelved in varions things nreund tha country, a few people _ who cventually, T think, bseane members of the Black Panther Party, , because there was always a movement of personnel through these yari- - “7 OUS Orvanizations. So we started to take these yerious votes ond real- - deed that tho black canens? position was even better than wo had ‘believed at first, and we did eventually in that convention moys it to - ‘quite 2 few of ths party's positions ivanted on the war and on the :party’s definition of racism, and things of that sort. We cot just abont - everything we. wanted, and that is*borne out by the fact that ha pubd-*: ications and the statements that came from NGNP, especially on } ae - y p -- of t -Gecision to have the ticket of Spock and King which werg basic pe m+... . HW 53216 Docld:327397476 Page 3° - : - ; t ! i | Mr. Nonpyn. What was the outcome of that discussion? oo | |
Pees .. - . “ . peony heen nane TAN Sheers UN te Pt ean nde TF ete ~ positions. "Lhere. were quite 2 few people who believed they Wore real revolufionaries who didi’t believe it was hecessiry (6 have i ticket or a presidential campaizn of Spock and ving, but the party believed it wis nbsolutely necessary beeanse it stew out of tho dialeetien! position they had. - ~ : Mir. Nouren, Arve you saying that enjnipin Spock and Martin Luther Kine were chosen for n presidentin} ticket by the Communist Party, US.Alin fact). © 7 cr Afr, Hnus. Well, the Coinmunist Purty, U.S.A. decided that those "Were the two of the best people that the purty position could move for, the party personnel. - ; “ at Mr. Norrer. You ere not implying then that other Spock of King Were or fre members of the Cominunist Party? oo Mr, Tuas. No. ol, ; Se . Mr. Nowexr. You arenot im lying thot? ee - - Mr, Kune. Tdoubt they would have tobe. _ 7 -- -«: Mr, Norper. Now, to go back to this black chucus, wasn’t it tre that the blacks wore numerically inferior when it cuins to the voting? > Bir, Karw, ‘That is trua,. me, :. Mfr, Nonvzr, ‘Uhet the whites predominated or hold the nujority of voling participants 4 —_— My, inxs. ‘That's true, . Afr. Nonven. Was unything dons rbout that? Can you elnbornte on the way the minority question representinyr tha blacks was settled rs faros the votes went, within the convention i - . > Mfr. Kae. Well, al through ths conference or convention thera wus a thems that was promoted by the Cormmunist ‘Party, U.S.A. years ayo, that bacause of the instinitionnl racism in America and al! those * , _: terms they threw out, » convention like the NCONP had to do some- "= thing that would nevnte the fact that blacks didn’t have as many votes aS whites, and so one of fha positions of the Communist Party mem- bers was to support anyons in the black causus end anywhere else in . tha convention who wanted to change that numerical system: I, my- _ Self, did not get to go to the final meeting at which the black caucus “7 ¥oted, you lnow, on the specifics, but T was there when they cams back ~ to the convention, beceusa ther had lett, and thers was soms arranye- _ ments mede, I em not sure of the svecifcs or the numbers buf there - WAS Soins errangement mode where the votes oft mors than they would haye been simply on the bas Afr, Norper. Would you continus on then wit the convention, 2s you recall it? - _ ; “Mar. Worx. Well, there were several speect to? isofnum bers, per se. h what ha ‘ppened at kobe amply covered by al} 0 eu. ‘the press, Tha ona speech that struck ms was by James Forman, who <. “hed been en ipformant—off the record, please, 7 Sepator Tironaronp, Off tho record, (Discussion off the record). - “wenator THGRMOND. Back on the record. Sir, Nowsr Ars jou speating of James Forman? | Afr. Kons: Right? As you lmocy hg haa been invelved in SNCO ana & ew other organizations in the South ene G2¥e a very inicresting qy ” i “who read this would know, Speoches mM conyensions, especially in t a i the black caucus ivere - rlk. As you probubly sell tnow, bat T dent think many or the people | is) pore eds oe 6