re _ 6 seve ast co (REMORANDUM FoR’ THE RECORD’ ~ SCE Initial Deoriefing of sued see S ae “Subject: was mat at. the Hotel | Pupont Plaza from 0930 to _ 1515 0n-15 June 1961. . 2. Most of the Conversation at this first meting centered. on deoriefing of, gtayvenind net, propaganda effectiveness and, ' primarily, fl nuke 8 om future. .- 3. Propaga haa. ° " Subject stated that the fish symbol appears - everywhere. — He has seen. the ‘symbol in elevators, public buildings, .. Wee public tollets, bus ard train depots, park benches, etc. His a _ wemark that,."You were always conscious of tien despite the fact ae : that in most places they were taken down immediately," is quite indicative of the wide distribution and use of the symbol. Kost of the symbols that he saw were in chalk rather than the blue me stam, Subiect believes most people thouv?.t the fish to be a we, Christian s-mbol rather than a counter revolutionary one. . Subject had seen many clandestine newspapers, leaflets, and . pamphlets even up until the last moment of his departure, He ‘Listed Avarce, Rescate, Prensa Libre, Bohemia Libre and La Marina Jas periods cals he had. seen. He saw them in private homes (most ; . of the homes he visited were, counter, revolutionary). Most of tne - ot “eonies were quite "beat up," indicating to him-that they had been; oe ? passed from nand to hand, In his opinion, people treasurei the copies that they had: He cited the case of one girl who carried covies in her handoag to snow to other girls in her office. subject's only ¢riticism of the periodicals was that at times they became a - little too flowery. In his words, "Tnere were too many adjectives," He thought that a sore direct approach would be more effective. He claims that everybody listens to Radio Swan out nobody delleves it. He mentioned one Swan broadcast which announced. taat . bodies were lying all over the Malecon and rotting in the sun. Listeners went to view this and found that tnere were no sodies there. Voice of America is listened to and is quite highly regarded, Susject cited two otaer oroadcasts that he considers courter revolutionary and wnicn cre well thougnt of; one orivinates from New York and one from Key West, He tninks that most people listen | to Hiami when conditions are right. I asked wny peonle continue to listen to Swan if it is so discredited, He stated that, altcougn | it is not believed, it is stiil a contact witn tne outside world, Tnere is no penalty for listering and all people a) - omy ar / cchey cee 749
apd '. establish a-career. He desires some formal. training. I agreed that - and himself. He claimed that, ‘although prison conditions were horrible.. atteching to this report 6. diagram of, tne-net as it exizted- when AM _departed. - Thee names used are code names and aré.on’ record with va/4 fT. individual PYOKTAms. . to these broadcasts, h thinking?" : I asked about: Americans in prison. “Subject: knew’ ‘of > anny btkdinas during his stay there because of lack of adequate food Bnd ‘eandtation , facilities, the. _prisoners: were not poveleally abused. * . . 4, Staybehind. Rather. than describing ‘the net.in datail, Ian, wa 5. coral sity vation: of. AM wire E) | subject is is obviously fascinated, ch with the intellisence waginess and wishes to continue with us’ and: - he should get training ard-said that, while he 4s on vacation, we would: try to set up some courses for him. Subject would like te have a contract with us; he fears that his next assignment might be for only © @ short time and. that he will be cut loose when it is completed. ° Altuough we did not discuss it, ne evieently had in mind career , Te agent status, I am not aware of Agency policy on assigning ‘eae -- are to this status, but I belleve that we have a real asset in ANTE) nd Ss 2 that consideration should be given to making him a career agent. a . : : Subject's 201 shows an individual with a background voth of intelligence . and experience that would. indicate an assignnent in any Latin American . = country. In addition, he has demonstrated a natural bent for the intelligénce cusiness.: Although his responsibility: was not as great as that of AMRYE, he nevertheless contributed very greatly in estaolisnnent of the staybehind net, working long- hours, under most’ |: trying cireunstances, His’ concept of tradecraft: is remarkable. for 2 : @ man who has only been in this business for approximately nine : ; : S months, When we were going over the diagram.of the staybehind net, * he was able to explain in a-most logical way the reasons for setting it up as it is. For example, communications are arranged’ from higher to lower echelons ‘ard, only where necessary, are communications . set-up both ways, Subject has geined in experience in a short : o Z period of time what 1t took-most of us years to aequire.. It would 7. TLR be a shame to let this experience go by the board, , ; . oy 6 Ineidentals. Subject claime that, on the second trip that . : - = AMDOODLE 1 mace, included in the pouch were five bottles of Miltown, , ‘ “ three guayaberas, and an item of jewelry that never got to its . ‘ - ultimate destination. The first two items were for ois wife; the ‘ other, for a customer of nis in 5uffalo, F.Y. He says that he is SEUuET
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