Or pana ar SAVANYAH, GEORGIA | | 7 | eno, 43-93 DAT “VPrefonr Mave AT Ay eave wnen wave | peniopror REPORT MADE BY . “SAWAROAH, cnonara A 7 y-25-h4, _ -29,30sleli-bh TAYLOR JACKSON SIMS | Jt Aire —_ \, . CHARAGTER OF CASE ae THOMAS HABYEY “HERMAN — Oo | ILLEGAL WEARING OF UNIFORM f@ | JACK DALE-UILLTAMS 7 SELECTIVE SERVICE / SYNOPSIS OF FACTS} Subjects apprehended while wearing uniforms of United States Navy and in signed statements admit they are not in Navy and entitled to wear i ! such uniform. Subject HERMAN stated he is i _ \ seventeen and subject WILLIAMS advises he was nh . , eighteen on July 5, 1943 but admits he has not i é registered for Selective Service. United States ~ ,i Attorney authorizes filing of complaint, warrants / issued and subjects'-apprehended. Commissioner's / hearing held March 30, 1944 and probable cause ’ found. HERMAN placed under $500 bond for illegal: wearing of uniform and WILLIAMS placed under - $1000 bond for illegal wearing of“uniform and ob. failure to register under Selective Service.: a, Subjects failed to make bond and are presently ah ‘incarcerated in Chatham. County Jail, Savannah, KH Georgia. . F Qe -P- . : / DETAILS: This investigation was instituted upon the’ receipt ‘of information by Assistant Special ee in Charge NOEL B. WRIGHT, from Lieutenant WILLIA iilassone, . Naval Recruiting Barracks, Savannah, Georgia, We Op phe, effect that the subjects, JACK DALE WILLIAMS bp om sa euoMas HARVEY HERMAN, had been apprehended on 5 fern 29 by Military Police authorities because 4 & . : ji APPROVED AND :PECIAL AGENT; ; FORWARDED: (ie SPIER ELE “ aD y +, IN CHARGE’ DO NOT WRITE IN THESE SPACES UE nf NaF 3-14 L542 & ae, COPIES! ort THis! ager Gi} Bureau 1 deh "hallant AM 2 Newark 2 New York 2 Miami ow. | Docld: 32563820 Page 1 “/ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ae
a) the sailor's uniform which they were wearing was not complete. Lieutenant LASSITER further advised that upon questioning the two men, it was learned that they admitted that they were not:iin the United States Navy. I TAYLOR JACKSON SIMS, III SpECTAL ACENT ‘FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION SAVANNAH DIVISION: Can testify that THOMAS HARVEY HERMAN gave the following signed statement to him on March 29, 19) at the Naval Receiving Barracks, Savannah, Georgia: Savannah, Gao March 29, 19h .I, Thomas Harvey Herman, make the following voluntary statement of my own free will to Taylor J. Sims, III. who has identified, himself to me as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. No threats or promises were made to me to give this statement and I know it may be used in court. _ , '- I was born June 2h, 1927 at Atlantic City, N.-J. where I lived and went to school up until two years ago. Then I oo went to Key West, Fla. with mother where I lived at 586°-S. WA. St., and my address in Atlantic City before this was 216 S. Arkansas Ave. . iy mother died last March and I went to Atlantic City and stayed with Harold Maxwell, 315 Washington Ave. In) June of 1913 I went to Philadelphia and signed with the U.S. Merchant Marine at their office on Chestnut St. and shipped out from New York on the W. W. Mills, a ship owned by the Pure Oil Co. This ship is old and travels up and down the eastern coast of the U.S. It is a tanker. ‘ On Mar. 8, 19) the ship docked at New York, and Capt. Haynes Maxwell gave me and Jack Dale Williams permission to leave ship and return to New York in about 15 days. - We did not have to tell him.where we were going. We teft New York ‘ . : 3 -. : : . : . aS - * ~ * . ee = So 2 a mn wre, Docld: 3275638270 Page 2?
Sve 43-93 and got to Washington about the 10th, and I bought the Navy uniform which I am now wearing at a tailor shop specializing in uniforms and having a sign in front "servicemen's equipment", y I don't remember just where this was located. Jack Dale Williams had previously bought his navy uniform at Galveston, Texas, and he knew it was wrong to wear it because I told him that he couldn't wear the service stripes which he has on his sleeve. We left Washington on March 16 and arrived in Savannah by hitch-hiking early Sunday morning, the 26th. Williams and I registered at the USO here at which time we both were wearing | our navy uniforms. However, we told them we were in the Merchant Marine. Williams and I wore the uniform from Washington to Savannah, and we have worn them most of the time here in Savannah. I knew when I bought the uniform and when I have been wearing it that it was wrong and that I wasnot entitled to: wear its a ‘ Last night Williams and I spent all our money, I having had _ $200 when I started out, and we were going to hitch hike back to. New York this morning when we were picked up by the M. P.s. Last night we slept in a man's car with his permission, but I don't remember who he was or where he lived. I do not have a selective Service registration or classification card because I never registered since I was tco young. I don't have any Navy identification papers, nor do I have with me my Merchant Marine papers which I left on the ship. I of course could not present any of these papers to Mr. Sims when he asked. . me for them. -I told the Navy Officers this morning first that I was in the Navy and second that I was in the Navy armed guard, but these stories were not true. TI have never been arrested before. SHA SONS B | Docra: 32563820 Page 3
, SV... 3-93 . ’ T have read the above statement consisting of about 34 pages and have initialed each page, and the statement is true to the § best of my knowledge. Signed: Thomas Harvey Herman Witnesses: John A. Lorince Coxswain Duty Master At Arms. Taylor J. Sims, III. FBI Savannah, Ga." During the course of the interview, subject HERMAN advised that he was born in Atlantic City, New Jersey.and that he has - spent most of his life in such city. He stated that he has a birth certificate on record in Atlantic City and that at one time he had a certified copy of such record which he lost a. short time ago. He stated that both his father and mother are dead and that following the death of his mother in March 193, he left Key West, Florida where they had been living for a short time and returned to Atlantic City. There he resided with HAROLD MAXWELL, 315 Washington Avenue, for some time and it was MAXWELL who interested him in-signing up with the Merchant Marine. HAROLD MAXWELL is the nephew of the Captain of the steamship on which subject HERMAN stated that he had been working. HERMAN also said that at the time he signed up for the Merchant Marine he was not fingerprinted. He advised that the boat, S. S. Mills, a tanker, is possibly filling up at New York. He denied having any previous arrest record and was unable to present any card of identification. He could not present any Selective Service card in view of the fact as stated by him that he has not registered since he is not yet eighteen years old. He advised that the Captain of the boat permitted him and subject to leave their papers on the boat and that it was through Captain MAXWELL that they were able to leave the boat and dock without having to show such papers. When questioned as to reason that he wore the Navy uniform, HERMAN stated that he had no particular reason, but just bought it and wore it. Special Agent SIMS can also testify that on March 29, 19h JACK DALE WILLIAMS gave the following signed statement in the Naval Receiving Barracks: ; : Docld: 325638270 Page 4
H SV. b3-+93 "'Savannah, Ga. March 29, 19))) I, Jack Dale Williams, make the following voluntary statement. to Taylor J. Sims, III. who has identified himself to me as a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. No threats or promises were made to me to give this statement, and I know it may be used in court. = I was born duly 5, 1925 at Key West, Florida, and I am now 18 years old. I have lived in Key West about all my life with my parents Mr. and Mrs. Jack Dale Williams, that is until my father died. ily mother has since remarried and her name now - is Mrs. P. R. Engold, and lived on Northwest E. St. About two years ago I enlisted in the Merchamt Marine at their office on Park Ave. in New York City. Sincehen I have served on two boats, the S. S. Malcolm and the Ss. Mills. About the 8th of March the S. S. Mills docked #nNlew York, and Captain Maxwell of this ship gave ThomaS”Herman and. myself. — a furlough of 22 days before we were to report back ‘aboard. I had previously bought the Navy uniform I am now wearing in Watertown, Tex. just outside of Galveston, and I wore this uniform down from New York to Weshington. Herman bought his uniform in Washington and I bought two service stripes and had them put on my sleeves. JI have worn the uniform on the trip down to Savannah and while I have been here since Sunday. I know that I am not entitled to wear this Navy uniform. Last night we lost out-caps at the USO where we have been staying. We got plenty of rides by telling people we were in the Navy at the same time we had out uniforms on, but I have never received money by telling people I was in the navy. . T-am 18 years old and I know that I should have registered for the Selective Service when I became 18, but I have not so registered. I did not present Mr. Sims with a Selective S,rvice registration or classification card because of course I don't have any. Nor do I have my Merchant Seaman papers which are on the g. S. Mills. I intended wearing the uniform I have on now when I left the S. S. Mills in New York. Docld: 32563820 Page 5
SV. 43-93 ‘I have read the above statement consisting of about 23 pages and have initialed each page, and this stateme ib is true to. the best. of my knowledge. ao ‘Signed: Jack D. or | eres hi , Witnesses: John Ae Lorince Coxswain Duty Master at Arms. Taylor J. Sims, III, FBI Savannah, Ga." wali , During the course of the interview with WILLIAMS, the advised that he has spent a large portion of his life in Key West, Florida, and that he has a birth certificate on record there showing phis. birthdate to be July 5, 1925. WILLIAMS was unable to present any : identification papers and stated that he knew that he was supposed to y register for Selective Service when he became eighteen years old but ‘Y advised that he had been too busy to do soe He denied having any previous criminal record and did not give any plausible reason for the wearing of .the United States Navy uniform other than that he just wanted to buy it and wear it. He said that he purchased the uniform at Watertown, Texas, a small town not far from Galveston. He admitted having told the Naval officers who questioned him when he was first apprehended that he had told them that he was in the Navy but that he had later admitted that this: i was not true. . i Both subjects were thoroughly questioned as to’ whether they had. obtained anything of value as a result of reporting themselves to be members of the United States Navy. They both denied having received anything of value other than’ admitting that while ‘ wearing their uniforms, they had received courtesies from civilians, such as automobile rides. They stated that upon registering at the | U.S.O. in Savannah when they spent the night at such place,. that they i merely requested a room for the night but that at such time they were ' wearing the uniform. Original copies of the above signed statements are “being retained in the files of the Savannah Field Division. The service stripes worn by. subject WILLIAMS at the time of apprehension are also being retained in the files of the Savannah Office. ° "ote % mye SD vO \o ONS . Sah ESS ' . | DocTd: 32563820 Page 6
C) SV. 43-93 » PROSECUTIVE STEPS. . The facts in the instant case were presented telephonically to Assistant United States Attorney JULIAN HARTRIDGE, who authorized the filing of a complaint against both subjects for illegal wearing of the uniform. . On March 30, 19h, complaints were filed before United States Commissioner PERRY BRANNEN and warrants were issued against the subject for violation of Section 1393, Title 10, United States Code, in that they . wore uniforms of the United States Navy when they were not members of the Navy and were therefore not entitled to, wear them. ; On the same day hearing was held before Commissioner BRANNEN at which time probable cause was found and subject HERMAN was placed under $500 bond on charge of illegal wearing of the uniform and WILLIAMS was placed under $1000 bond on charges of illegal wearing of the uniform and failure to register for Selective Service. At the present date neither of the subjects have made such bond. : CRIMINAL RECORD By letter dAted AprilvS% 19); the following criminal record of JACK DALE WILLIAMS was\recejved from the Bureaus: FBI # 396779) | on State Police John JackGrossi\ 8-17-43 Juvenile delinquency returned Philadelphia, Pa. #-- State Police’ to N. J. #C-16673 © Media, Paa- State Home ; for Boys, ‘ Jamesburg, N. Je USM: Savannah, Ga. Jack Dale Williams 3~30-l) wearing the uniform : #S~-1603 , ; ‘ of the: U.S. Navy a . By letter dated April 3, 194, the Bureau advised that. a check of their records reflected no criminal record against the name of . THOMAS HARVEY HERMAN. : oo | . 6 Sa | . yo . . . , 7 Ye tee \ aS 3oO ad = | | SUsy 7 | Docld: 325638270 Page
a 9 Po SVe 43-93 II ' The office of the United States Yarshal was requested -to place a notation on the fingerprint cards submitted to the Bureau, asking that criminal records of the subjects be sent to the Savannah Field Division. I: It. has been ascertained that there are three branches of the U.S.O. in Savannah where members of the Armed Forces can obtain rooming facilities and they are the Y.M.C-A. Building, the Salvation Arny, located on West President Street, and the JW. Be,) located on Bernard Street. The following description of the subjects was obtained from interview and observation: ¢ NAME THOMAS HARVEY HERMAN Age 17 Race Se - White Birthdate June 2h, 1927 Place “Atlantic City, N. Je Height - . Brat Weight 158 lbs. Hair Brown and wavy t Eyes co Blue . Build ' Medium Relatives WINFIELD HERMAN, Uncle, STANLEY HERMAN, Uncle, Asbury Park, Ne Je GILBERT HERMAN, Brother, U. Se Navy, Overseas TucKerton, N. J. | | NAME JACK DALE WILLIAMS Age . 18 , Race ye ‘White Birthdate July 5, 1925 Height _ ory Weight 145 lbs. Complexion Light Place of Birth ‘ Key West, Florida ’ Hair — Brown Byes Green Relatives | Mrs. NORA ENGOLD 7h9 Ne. W. "E" Street Key West, Florida Remarks Hands unusually large. Build : Stocky ! | ~ PENDING - , Oe? . - ~ ia \ hear © | Docla: 32563820 Page 6
& & & Oo SV 43-93 *. UNDEVELOPED LEADS: . THE NEW YORK FIELD DIVISION, at New York City, will obtain the name of the Captain of the S. S. Mills and verify the fact that the subjects were employed as Merchant Marines on such ship. _ It is believed that this information may be obtained. either at the Offices of the Pure Oil Company or from the Captain of the Port, New York. THE NEWARK FIELD DIVISION, at Atlantic City, New Jersey, will check the records of the Bureau of Vital Statistics in order to verify the birthdate of subject THOMAS HARVEY HERMAN. . :} ‘a \ . Va es of ¢Docld:32563620 Page 9
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION THIS CASE ORIGINATED AT SAVAMIAR, GEORGIA . _ | FILE.NO. by 5093 PAT REPORT MADE.AT . :| * DATE WHEN MADE : i PERIOD.FOR if pREPORT..MADE BY “WHICH MADE : SAVARIA, GWORGTA | be 2Sabh [3929 20h TAYLOR JACKSOU SIMD t ‘ . (>. “TITLE [| CHARACTER OF CASE Bo THOMAS HARUBY MELOCAN | XLREGAL WEA ARENO OF UALR JACK DALS CAELEARB | SELECTIVE SERVICE SYNOPSIS OF FACTS: Subjeote agprehended while wearing uniforms of United Sbetes Kavy and in signed statmente adit they are net in Nevwy amd estitled te wear i guch uniform. Sebject HERMAN stated he is - i . seventeen and subject ye. aeraen astvizes he was a eigvteen on July 5, 1913 buh adwite he hes not oe registerad fox Sclective gerviee. United States . Attorney authorises. filing of complaint, warrants tested Vand subjects’ oprenunded. Comilesionor's hearing held Karch 20, L9kk and probable cause founds NAAN placed under $500. ber’ for illegal Wearing of uniform and WILLTAuS placed under @1G00 bend for illegal wearing af uniform end — failure to register under Selective Service fubjecta failed te make bond and are presentiy incarcerated in Chathax County dell, Savarinah,. Georgia. Phis investigebien was. instituted upon. the receipt of information tr Aseiatant Special: Agent in Charge MSL By Wet HT from fdeitenant WILLIAW LABSIT, laval Feeruiting Barracks, Savannah, Georgia, te the ef Zfect that the. subjects, WACK DALE. SULDTANS and PHOMAS HARVEY BEREAN, bad bean apurcharided on Mare 29 by ws thitaxy Polioe authors deg beacause APPROVED AND 7 7 : SPECIAL AGENT FORWARDED: : IN- CHARGE 2DO NOT. WRITE IN: ‘THESE SPACES plsgs 7-1 / COPIES OF THIS REPORT (> Bureau “2. UGA Savannah - 2 Rewarts # Savannak 2 New Yorte @ Wiend Docld: 32563820 Page 10
tha ealler'’s unifora via Jon ‘they ‘are eqn Has not conplete, Lieutenant - LASSTIER forthar advised thet wron questioning the tre mon,. res was Learned tas thay adadthed thet they wore not. in the United States. Mawy« 5 oP IN NVRGZIOATI ON Can entity CS eit Tea wae VEL serine save the following elaned otetonont $0 hin on wah 29 4 Bae aS the Hawa Beceiying Barracke, 8 Gevarnah, Jeergiag . . “Sovannsh | Gn», f, Thowas tanvey Hewwan, nake the following voluntary ; stabocant of my om Treo Will to Taylor Jy Magy Tite who F . bes tdentified iusclf te ne es a Sedalal Agents af The Pedorsi. Berean of Investigation, Bo thragts or eronises were wade to we to sive this atatesent and I | inew a% may be uses, a aourhs T won born June 2h;,. 1927 ab Atlantic city, He de where I Rived am went te schook up until twe years agoe ‘Then F . wets to Kay Pact, Fla. with other where i lived at SUG S. Woe Ste, and my aidrees in Atlasiie Glty before this was. 216 3. Avikanens Ave. iy mother d44¢ Lect Marsh ana I went to Atlantic elty and ateyed with Harold fasmell, 319 Washington ave, En dene of 1948 T went te Philadelphia and signed with the E, Be " ‘Perukent Mastine af thelr office on Chentat £6. and shipped — out foo me Yorke on She W.-W, Milde, a ahiip omed by the Pure 42.80, Pais chip is old’ and Seaviie up and down the esetern sonst of he Ge & IG ds @ tanker. ’ vay. & 18th the: -ghip doe bd at Now % oxi, | wre capt. oyna Rese gave me and dack Pale Willdana permiesion to Leave ship pr return: to Wew Yow in about LE dave. We did aoe have te tell him vhere ve ware goings We. left New York Doclda: 32563820 Page i1
and got te Sashingbon about the 5 20%, and 1 bought the Bavy esiforn whch t ad now weaving a6 @ taller ahop specleliging aving a sigh in grunt "gerviemen's equinment’. 1 resent hex juss phere th48 tee leaked. deck Dele. Pillieus had previgusly bough) hie nevy uniform ab Ualveston, ‘Tene, and te lnew 1% vas wrong fe weer 2% beenuee E teld hin thab he conhan! wear the service stripes Which he hag on bdo GhOCs fe Left Yiewhington OR — 16 agi ‘arrived itr hevannsh “ py Rbteh-hiking carly Surdey morning, the 26th; WiEiiaes end z registered at the So here at which tise we: both ware wearing i: ie nevy undivere. Hevever, we teld then we were in the veneer 7 Mayines, Wilitene and J wore the uniform fron Gashington i « Skvarmneh, ani wa have wort thea weet of the tae here in 7 Savannahs Z knew when I bough} the uniform and whan £ have bean 7 a at, a that 26 wee wrong eed thet FT Peenot entitled to i wear at test wight Willtens and T epent ald eux sony z having had, §200 whea I etarted out, and we vere being +o Kiteh bike hack to How Tork this morning + when we were pieked up br the Me Pome not night we dlept in a male car with his pormiashon, bat J aor senamber whe he wee OR. where ha Diveds ¥ ae ot heave a Be Lective Serv se restiateation or clasrifiestion 4a beeeuae FT nearer yarhotered Sines F Was too young, I don't soy Mavy idextifiestion pagers, mor de I have whth na mr Nerchant Marine payers wile: I lef} an the ship. i of couree eould not pregant any ef theae papers to By. Sins when he asked ne. foe chert _ : | P.tel4 the Baur Uffieers thie earning first thet I wag 41 - i ; the Savy and eeeond. that. T woe Rea the Novy araed guard, but Ghee etorien ware nob brute k have never been arrested Helares f Docld: 32563820 Page 12
. nite vead the above statexent consisting of shout 33 pages » - «ont Rove initialed each pages and the statenont ig true te the , oe beat of my hnowledge. Signede Theusa Narvey Kernan . Witneases: dehn As Lorinee Cexsustn _ Duty Hagter AG Azas, So toylor Jo. Gime, IP, PBY csvermahs Cast to 4 7 uring the gouvae of the interview, Subject wanda sevised that he was bern in Atiewtle City, Hew Jersey and that he Rag i agent moat of his life in eucs edty. Me stated thet he hag a birth i ceri vlente on resord tia Atlantic Oity exd that at ore ties he hed a certined copy of such reaord whieh he leat a ghost time ago. Us stated that beth his father and nother aro vend and thet following the death of hie mothe in Moreh 1943, he legs Hey Veot, Florida where thoy had bean Living for @ short tine and returned to Atlantic Citys There ho vesidet With WAROMD MARWEEL, 338 Noshingten Averne, for sone time and A UAXWELL whe interested fia én signing up with the derchant Korines HAROLD : EAIWELL dg the nephew of the. Captain of the steamship an which subject HEMRAY stated that he had heen woritings HREMAH alvo said thet at the tine he efgned up for the Harchant Karing he waa not fingerprinted. so agvived that the boat, So 8+ Mille, a tater, ic poseibly {Ailing up at Rew Terks He denled having any Dreviouw arrest record and was unable S06 prapgend any card ef identifiestion. Re could not pragent any Solective , _ eyviee cord in view of the fac’ 88 stated ky him that he hes not reglotered since he Lg nob yet efghteen yeure olds He advised thet the Caytain a¢ the beat persitted hin and subject to leave their papers on the boat and that it Through Oapbain MASRETE that thde Were shle-t6 leave the boas. and dock without having to ghow Sach papers. When questioned as to reason ‘that he wore the Navy unizorn, MERMAN Stated that. he had no partdoulas eeaken, bub just bought 4% and wore ie ae yp qipoetal Avent SEH3 can algo testity that on Yarch 29, 19d; ACE PALE VWIEITAMS gave the fslleoming aligned statenent in the Navel. Reced oling Derrek a /. fe a oe, ae oe ‘ a # s L | Docld: 32563820 Page 13 it