HW 54756. - Docid: 32263970 “Page 101°. °° * Warren Commission did not have enough pertinent scientific infor- mation to come to an objective conclusion. He said he did not read: the Warren Report, but what he had read proved to him that | the Commission did not: know what they were doing. FERRIE went into a long spiel about J.F.K.'s neck wound. In the course of his lecture on anatomy and pathology, he named every bone in the human body and every hard and soft muscle area. ‘He talked exten- sively about the dermis and epidermis. FERRIE said if the same bullet that struck. J.F.K. in the back or neck eventually struck Connelly, that connelly or - Kennedy had to be a contortionist. He then rattled off some more scientific information in regard ‘to | bones, and skin, and how a bullet decreases in speed when it. strikes an object. and how the same bullet could not have possibly caused all that damage. FERRIE said that that question would “never be answered because the doctor who performed the tracheotomy) | had 10 ‘thumbs and left unanswered the most important question of all time. FERRIE then laughed and ‘said that doctors are almost as stupid as lawyers, but that lawyers are worse because they 3 are always in your pocket. I then said, "In’ other words Dave, you don't buy the ‘one shot - theory?'" FERRIE said he wasn' t saying anything | because he didn't want J. Edgar on his tail, that he had enough with | Garrison to contend with. FERRIE said that in ‘time he would work the whole thing out and then laughingly said that he would contact} our office. I noticed at ‘this point that he was in very r good spirits) and was ‘laughing | and joking and even “commented that he! s ‘feeling pretty good now .and that he. had had 3 cups of coffee "already and hadn' t thrown up yet.
HW 54756. Do PERRIE then’ received. another phone call from STEVE "LITTLETON and his wife and joked with LITILETON ' s wife about how “he knew that she had dated LEE HARVEY OSWALD and that he was going to tell Garrison on her. She must have told him that she had seen his ‘picture in the paper and he replied that he didn't like ait because it made him look unphotogenic. She also must a “have asked FERRIE if it was him that some people identified with somebody or at some place and he said that the people are mistake : or he had a common. face. After he hung up the phone, we told him we had to leave. FERRIE. said. he had more to tell us ‘about the "one shot theory". We told him to save it for another. day as it was dark already and we had: to meet Garrison. I then asked him if he would Like to ‘tell me some more about his trip to ‘Hammond and he smiled and said "Go to hell". I then asked if he stayed with CLAY SHAW. He said, "Who's CLAY SHAW?" I said, "ALL right, | if that doesn't ring a bell, ‘how about CLAY BERTRAND?" | He said, "Who's CLAY BERTRAND?" ‘I said, "CLAY BERTRAND and CLAY SHAW. care” the same person."- He abked, “Who said that?" rr said, "Dean Andrews told us." He said, "Dean Andrews might tell you guys anything. You know how Dean andrews is." FERRIE. then ‘Started to go into another lecture and we told him we ‘had to go. He followe us down the stairs and walked out on the sidewalk with us. FERRI - asked Ivon to be sure and call him. Ivon assured him he would and we left. - ae foe le. d:32263970 Page 102
HW 54756 Maweh 1, 1969 JOKES BARRIS Jenes Harris Aasa't seen Hagell for a mouth. Last word frou. him wae ecards (te Eew, see below) from Kaxice and Sem. Nagell didn't work out his deal with CIA. Hazell gives Warris following names: BEW, Bicer 3. Ite, 1250 Comme Aves HY G i) CULLETT, John i. (ds) HYNES, James J. LEx-Bavy Candy - C12 vow PITSAR, Suctiavy Captain « CIA now. THOBAS, AwKe, ExeHavy Et. Camdre ~ Hagel saw at 32733. an » Chinese type + CIA Bageli gave tlageis fafe re following two who he said had a hand in Ballas, bon working for an eatfit called Khovesent To Free Gaubs, headed by 6 ) Looper, } caucusian, Kexicon 27-29 years - 200 Ihe = 5116" E77, black heir, heavy build, alpha 66- 2) Weangel © wale, Gescastan o Cubaa or Mexican - 26030, 180 lbs, St1i* or 6°, black hairy, hazel ayes Beth exeCla Photes in Jackson Square (8.0-) of LBO talking te beth. Ferric alse keew bathe Leen Ogwald « Bale, Caucasian, Anerican, 24-26, 156 ibs. $18 or g*— Alive On Sept i4 er 15, 1963. Yet alive after Sept. 19, 1963. Hagel! left 3.0. . for Leds on September 16, 1963. PLOTS: 4. 1962 - Bees - Niamd aseory. 2. 1963 ~ Juna « Led. © Beverly Hilton. 3. 1963 - Sepr. « Zasblagton ~ Sept 26eh scheduled. MABRINA's file in San Antonio in April, 1963. Docld: 322763970 Page 103
IT SS, ~ NLA ‘FOR: UNATLON::G ARRESON AND JFK PLOT TAKE 2 DAVID FERR IE FLOOR. HE APOLOGIZED FOR THE SLOWNESS, SAYING THAT HE WAS SUFFERING - -FROM ENCEPHALITIS, BUT ASSURED ME THAT IT WAS NOT CONTAGIOUS.” . ae want “pa X - Nation ~1-3-)-+7 a, naw ne WUAT2 NPR COLLECT NEW ORLEANS LA 23 1152P CST oo , aye TIME INC | 4 “ye | oa om WUX ATLA co a oo . FROM? DAVID SNYDER} TIME STRINGER IN ‘NEW ORLEANS CATEANPTA-WANTS: RERUN) BEN CATE ASKED ME TO SEND FULL PARTICULARS ON DAVID WILLIAM Ct oo or FERRIE. MY FIRST CONTACT WITH FERRIE WAS A TELEPHONE CALL AT 5:50 P. Me FRIDAY, FEB. 17, FOLLOWING THE APPEARANCE OF THE STATES~ ITEM'S INITIAL STORY ON THE GARRISON INVESTIGATION. ve HE HAD READ THE STORY AND, HE SAID, WAS TIRED OF REMAINING - SILENT ON THE INVESTIGATION. HE FELT THAT HE WAS BEING PERSECUTED oe BY THE DA'S OFFICE AND HE WAS AFRAID OF ARREST. FERRIE'S VOICE WAS_NASAL AND ALMOST INAUDIBLE. HE SAID HE WAS - a PHYSICALLY SICK. DURING OUR FIRST TELEPHONE CONVERSATION HIS © =~". ™ BREATHING WAS UNSTEADY. | ee I ASKED FERRIE WHEN I COULD SEE HIM. HE TOLD ME TO MAKE IT | oo SOON BECAUSE HE MIGHT CHANGE HIS-MIND ABOUT TALKING. I TOLD oo a HIM I WOULD BE AT HIS HOUSE BY 6 P.M. a I TALKED TO HIM FOUR AND A HALF HOURS FRIDAY NIGHT. HE. CALLED oe ae ME AT LEAST ONCE EVERY DAY AFTER THAT UNTIL HIS DEATH. HE WAS OS EXTREMELY SICK, HE SAID,. WITH ENCEPHALITIS. HE WAS SCARED TO DEATH OF ARREST BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND HE WAS BITTERLY CONVINCED THAT THERE WAS NO JUSTICE FOR HIM IN THIS Oe . WORLD. THE MAN INVESTIGATED ON TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS BY THE DATS a OFFICE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ASSASSINATION NET ME AT THE DOWNSTAIRS a ENTRANCE TO HIS APARTMENT AT 3330 LOUISIANA AVE. PKWY. oo ne HIS STEPS WERE FEEBLE aS WE CLIMBED THE STAIRS TO THE SECOND — TF ceenacar HE ALSO APOLOGIZED FOR. THE. COND IT ION, OF. THE. APARTMENT «. HE SAID - HW 34756 DoclId:32263970 Page 104
yuat2/2 THE PLACE WAS BEING RENOVATED. THE LIVING ROOM WAS HEAVY WITH THE SMELL OF STALE c1saRettEs. EVERY ASH TRAY WAS HEAPED WITH CIGARETTE BUITS. FURNITURE, GREASY FROM SWEAT AND DIRT, RESTED ON A LITTERED THREAD-BARE CARPET. AN AMERICAN FLAG STOOD IN ONE CORNER. NEXT TO IT WAS A TYPEWRITER IN A CASE. DRo NICHOLAS CHETTA, ORLEANS PARISH CORONER, SAID TESTS SHOWED _ THAT THE SUICIDE NOTE FOUND IN THE APARTMENT WAS TYPED ON THE ‘TYPEWRITER. ~IT_IS MY THEORY THAT FERRIE HaD JUST ABOUT DECIDED ON SUICIDE Sanne ee ante AT THE TINE HE ‘CALLED ME “FRIDAY. HE MAY HAVE HAD THE ‘NOTE WRITTEN. WHEN I TALKED TO HIM, ESPECIALLY ON THE PHONE, IT SEEMS TO ME IN RESTROPECT THAT PERRIE JUST WANTED TO CLEAR HIMSELF, THEN CASH IN. BUT BY THE TIME WE HAD FINISHED OUR CONVERSATION, HE HAD PERKED | UP A LITTLE. HE’ SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO FILE A SUIT. THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO SUBPOENA GARRISON AND EXPOSE THE HAR ASSMENT HE. (FERRIE ) WAS GOING THROUGH... I ENCOURAGED HIM BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD STORY IF HE DID FILE A SUIT. BY THE TIME I LEFT HIS APARTMENT HE WAS SAYING THAT HE WOULD PREPARE A SUIT OVER THE WEEKEND TO FILE MONDAY. HE CALLED SUNDAY TO SAY HE PLANNED TO GET TOGETHER WITH AN . ATTORNEY ON THE SUIT. HE SarD HE WAS FEELING BETTER AND SOUNDED - BETTER. BY MONDAY HE WAS WORKING IN AN ATTORNEYS OFFICE, TRYING To GET THE SUIT TOGETHER. THE TARGET OF THE SUIT WAS VAGUE, BUT ONE OF THOSE SUED WOULD APPARENTLY BE JACK MARTIN, A NUT AND A SELF STYLED PRIVATE. DETECTIVE. WHO, HE SAID, HAD SUPPLIED GARRISON A LIST OF NAMES, BOTH IN 1963 AND LAST YEAR, TO CHECK OUT IN CONNECTION WITH THE. ASSASSINATION. FERRIE' Ss Nave W WAS” - ON BOTH. LISTS.» BY THIS TIME FERRIE WAS READING EVERY ScR AP ON THE GARRISON PROBE AND TAKING ALMOST A HAPPY-GO-LUCKY ATTITUDE TOWARD THE . INVESTIGATION. a IT IS WELL KNOWN IN NEW ORLEANS THAT THERE Is A RIFT BETWEEN THE FBI OFFICE AND THE DA*S OFFICE. FERRIE HAD BEEN DOWN TO THE FBI OFFICE MONDAY, HE SAIDs TO TALK TO THE AGENTS. ONE HW 54756 Docld:32263970 Page 105