JFK Assassination System Date: 10/13/20 Identification Form Agency Information - AGENCY: HSCA RECORD NUMBER: _180-10088-10086 RECORD SERIES: NUMBERED FILES. AGENCY FILENUMBER: 006649 . cosy : ; TT r-eeEeEe Document Information ORIGINATOR: HSCA FROM: . Released under the TO: ‘ ohn F. Kennedy WKSsassination Records TITLE: STURGIS DEPOSITION. ollection Act of 1992 (44 USC 2107 Note). ases#:NW S3080 Date: HS5—-30-2017 DATE: 05/11/1979 PAGES: 5 SUBJECTS : ; . STURGIS, FRANK; TESTIMONY BEFORE COMMITTEE. DOCUMENT TYPE: INDEX. CLASSIFICATION: — Unclassified RESTRICTIONS: 3 _ CURRENTSTATUS: — Redact DATE.OF LASTREVIEW: 11/14/1996 OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS: _ Includes cover memorandum dates taken from memorandum. Box 128. a v9.1 Ss ] : . 53080 Docld:3225275768 Page 1
Sas SR a ao a MEMORANDUM To: G. Robert Blakey “FROM: William K. Triplet | DATE: May 11, 1978 SUB: Sturgis Deposition On March 20, 1978, Frank Sturgis was ‘deposed. in Miami, Florida. - _ Attached is a summary of that ‘deposition. The full transcript “may ‘be located in JFK Document Number 006649. close Doctd:32259528 - Page 2.
‘STURGIS DEPOSITION - 3/20/78 - Miami, Florida DPOB -- 12/9/24, Norfolk, Virginia (p 6, 1 12-13) has been married three times, but cannot remember the first or last a os name of his first wife (p 8, 1 8-17) aa oe ae’ his first contact with USA. intelligence was in Santiago, Cuba -- the. Vice-consul (p 23, 15 etc.). This was when he first started to. : “Spy on Castro for the USA (1958). ne Tho' offered, he refused to take money from his government (p 25, 112). - in 56 or ‘57, he met Fidel Castro in the USA, and Carlos Prio He first went to Cuba in 1957 (p 27, 19). He met Fidel Castro in Cuba and proceeded to train, go on missions, © and purchase weapons (p 28, 1 7 ff) oe After Castro's. victory, he went to Havana, met Pedro Diaz Lanz, who. ‘was Commander-in-Chief of the Cuban Air Force, and he became the. is Director of Security for the Air Force (p 29, 1 13 ff). : ; ‘He set up an intelligence Operation in the USA for Castro (p 30,19 ff), °- _ and then gave the names of the agents to the American government a (p 30, 1 22 ff), He provided names of the agents, and details of various conspiracies © in Central America, to Col. Nichols, the American military attache. ~ ‘to the Cuban Air Force. (p 31, 1 8 ff). . rer He suspected the Embassy and CIA were assisting and advising Castro, so early in 1959 he went to Washington D.C. and provided the same - information to the FBI (pp 32,33) - _His function was just Providing intelligence to the CIA and suggesting es possible recruits -- including William Morgan (pp 39-40). re He recruited Marita Lorenz to spy for him (p 24, 11 6-11) co He was involved in three "serious" plots to kill Castro (p 43,1 14-20) 5 ; His trip to the FBI bypassing the embassy, to name the communists , ee was at the direction of Pedro and Marcos Diaz Lanz (p 46, 1 14 ff).° we ee He did not kill Castro because Col. Nichols would not give him the ay "green light" (p 47, 1 23 ff). | . a: a
STURGIS DEPO - P. 2 _ He left Cuba on 6/30/59, after Sangenis to told him to leave since | “Raul Castro suspected he was working with American Intelligence - (AD, 48, 1 23 ff). _. He- believes he and Pedro Diaz Lanz were . betrayed by the CIA Chief - 5 (Of ‘Station at the American embassy: (P 50, 1 14 ff). - Sturgis: and. the Diaz Lanz brothers were using the B- 25, which : was mo taken from Cuba and registered in Sturgis’ name (p 56, 7 9. FF) CIA money was. received from Howard: Hunt, through Barker, to fit, up ~ othe. plane to broadcast propaganda (p. 57,.1 11 ff). On. 10/21/59 Sturgis, the Diaz Lanz brothers, and another Cuban. flew oan ~ over Havana dropping leaflets from the B-25. ‘Cuban gunfire at the ~~ oe plane killed or wounded over 30 people. Castro was mad. (p 59, Jd 8 fy -Sangenis (code nane, "Sam Jenis") was the head of Operation 40 (F 66, 1 2 2 ff) Operation 40 was the CIA- sponsored intelligence arm of the anti- —. Castro. “Operations (p 67, 17 ff). “When Alex Rorke disappeared on. a mission to Central America, Sturgis '. immediately contacted Naval Intelligence for assistance (p 69, 1.15. A He assumed the quickest action would come from ONI (p 71, 1 > fF) “They raised funds from various private sources , including Bacardi Rum: “Co. and Dr. Luis Conte Aguerro (p 72, 1 3 ff). After’ WW II, Sturgis was operations officer for the CAP in Norfork, a Virginia (p 74, 1 14 ff) | ont Sturgis did over 100 missions into Cuba -- mostly by plane, some. _by boat (p 75, 1.4 ff) The ‘average cost of each mission was. $5,000 (p 76, 1 7 fF) ea The CIA Chief of Station in Havana was William Caldwell] (p 7, 1 Ble “Although Sturgis “never met him personally", Bernard Barker's first” control officer was "Eduardo" (p 80, 1 2 ff) First time Sturgis met Hunt was in 1972 (p 81, 1 18 FF) “He formed the International Anticommunist Brigade in the early "608, then Jim Buchanan took it over (p 84, 1 1 ff) pd - “He probably knew Loran Hall as part of the Hemming group -- but not” Lawrence Howard (p 85, 11 ff) $3080. DocId:32252528. Page 4
asked him to.do a domestic assassination. Sturgis told Sangenis.: Sturgis asked Barker for the name.of the victim, and requested - to. STURGIS DEPO - Pp. 3 He didn't know William, Seymour (p 86, 1 22 ff) ‘ vim Buchanan can verify Sturgis was in Miami on 1/22/63 (p 87, ] 20). “The International Anticommunist Brigade had no > funding, and was: completely broke (p 88, 1 5 ff) a ~:O0n one occasion, Bernard Barker, known, to Sturgis to be a CIA agent, talk to his control officer about it. _The matter was dropped. oes (pp 90-93) recs “On one occasion, he worked on an assassination attempt with Marita “Lorenz against Castro, with poison (pp 93-94) ~” Upon returning to the United States, he -has been involved in “two | or three plans or attempts to kill Castro. . Orlando Bosch was involved - (pp 95-97) | a | He became a supervisor and inspector Of casinos for the Castro “government (pp 99-102) On instructions from Castro, he closed down. the casinos for ten ‘days (pp 102- 105) He advised Santo. Trafficante and Hymie Levine | - of this action in advance (p 104) | On one occasion, in Santiago, Cuba, he noticed a group of. Barbudos ~Surrounding Stretch Rubin and threatening to harm him, since he waS) / a "gangster". Sturgis "saved" him. (pp 106-108) — “He never met Marcello, Giancana, or Roselli (p 118) 453080 DocId: 32252528 _Page 5 __ - Later, Rubin brought Hymie Levine to introduce him to Sturgis, ‘since gE it was unusual to meet an American officer in the Air Force... On -that a “occasion, Fidel came in in his helicopter and walked _up and embraced is Sturgis. This impressed them. (pp 108-109) . - When Castro made Sturgis casino inspector, Levine and Rubin introduced him to various operators, including Trafficante, Mike McClaney and’ - Norman Rothman (pp 109-112) He met Dominic Bartone when he was trying to sell a plane to- the Cubans,” “and, possibly on one other occasion, but had no connections with him at (pp 113- 14) . . He also met Charles Tourine while inspecting casinos (p 116) If he feels a need to contact the CIA, he does it through Steve ge ee '..€zukas -- a Customs investigator (p 124) ee
~. . Roads Salvage Co. They purchased boats for use on Cuban operations. _ could ever substantiate it (pp 178-180) STURGIS DEPO ~ Pp, 4 In the early 1960's he went with Marcos Diaz Lanz to speak with President Ydigoras of Guatemala regarding the setting up of anti- re ‘Castro bases there. Upon returning to Miami, he was arrested by . 0) 6 0080. “INS, taken to court, and advised that he had lost his citizenship... ~ - He appealed to Senator Smathers and, somehow, got it back (pp: 126-131). At the time of the deposition, Sturgis-claimed to be a news reporter _ _- for "El Expresso" (p 133) — m LM peal He met Ruben Miro in Havana and, later, found out he was supposedly “involved in-the assassination of Panamanian President Ramon. (p 135-136) From the time he went to Cuba in 1956, until he left in June 1959.00 _he traveled on behalf of the rebels ‘and ensuing government. to Florida, Mexico, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Panama, Honduras, The Bahamas, New York, and Washington. The was to maintain contact with the - es underground organization (p 137) . After returning from Cuba, along with the Diaz Lanz. brothers, he supported - _ himself out of the exile community by organizing and planning raids. 9° . Funds came from many ‘sources, including Bosch of Bacardi Rum (pp 139-141) With the Diaz Lanz brothers, in September, 1961, he formed the Hampton ~ Though the CIA "had use of these boats", he steadfastly maintains that ~~ .all funds were obtained from the Cuban community -- not the CIA. vee (pp 141-144) a _ From 1963 through Watergate, he had a varied employment history (pp 146-149) On 11/21/63 and 11/22/63 he was in Miami, and has "passed" a polygraph to that effect (pp 152-156) . “Marita Lorenz' story is absolutely untrue (pp 157-159) “Over the years he has provided information to various news reporters. - (pp 159-165) rs os Sturgis has Studied and "investigated" the assassination over the years . ee _ and believes Oswald was working for Cuban Intelligence (pp 166-170) cae oes He does not recall ever meeting Mitch Werbell, Bernardo de Torres, or. _ Doug Gupton (pp 172-173) -- or David Phillips coek ED RS >There was a rumor that Oswald had been in the Miami area, but nobody we He formed a "church" to help the poor people in South Anerica (pp 183-185):
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HW 53080 ds bat I-don't know whether. that was his name or: not. an . 2 Again, Tr shave it at home and I can turn he over, to 4 Mr. Fonzi. | | oe ] : Mr. Triplett. Could it have been gin Knowles? ~ s a ~ ‘The Witness. No, sir. Jim Knowles worked out “Bo 6) cof the american Embassy. - | : Bor | Mr. Triplett. ‘All right. : pep Does the name Stewart ring a bell? | not rnenan Be ad] - ns 3. Bs s 7B: 14! oe ee! SB 1Se! .o oo aot 2 « 16 7 1g: a 308 7TH STREET, “S.W. 20 ae ay "ped 22 44 24 25 “Docla: 92259528 i" i i. a fp ol nay a ‘Babassy. | ap t We | | €or. help? _ ‘The Witness. Jack ‘Stewart? No, sir. . I know: who you' re talking about. He. worked out ‘of the bo Mr Triplett. a or ‘enlist the support of other people: in this” intelligence gathering. activity? The Witness. Yes,.sir. —_ a i Mr. Triplett. And. what would: ‘be the ‘correct [ aan . | ‘designation? Recruiting? Enlisting’ support? “Raking - How would you describe it? The Witness. Well, | I would describe.it as” 4 making contact with: people. within the: Cuban military, was ‘tnexe. Naturally my friends Pedro and Marcus Diez Lanz | with. a number of: people in the American. ‘Embassy | ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY: INC. Page 43 ‘Dia you have occasion: to. recruit the Cuban. political and even. the american. colony: that are. very pro-American and they had the right contacts
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Uf setae prepared, the Air Force was involved in® Site i where” ‘there ‘were aircraft: on our ramp with. ‘no : designation, you know, no. number, insignias. and) “tal ot] forene They were just. ‘plain aircraft. the ‘numbers 28) were ‘taken off, the insignias were taken off these’ Bap sivérate that were going te be involved: in. certain: Boh invasions of certain. ‘countries. For instance, ene “Bo 8 | bbminiean Republic and. also Panama. os ae ae And these invasions. did occur and- they. dia gy “fail. eu Bill Morgan, who Tr tried to recruit for. ‘the. ph] aan Government, which’ I gave a list to Nichols El os people that I. felt would. be in sympathy. with. ‘the. 2) amestcan Government, would help intelligence wise. ~e: _ Naturally they have. their own means. of making’ ‘contact. “Me to be involved in several of these cohspiracies. — a pre it isn't directly through: me, they make ‘their own, aa A set contact of these assets that would be. assets ‘to, tga. a * "|. you khow, American Intelligence. And Bill ‘wanted. E19 | - | s om. a “And one was the Panama ‘Canal. I told him. a ‘thought | . jv h@ “was crazy and he said look, I'll. be the overall | “Commander and I: want “you to. be: the . second in command Q bee’ this: expedition ‘that is being formed | to: invade |*Panama.. - And if I'm not mistaken, later the invasion. was. rnc . ALDERSON REPORTING COMBANY. INC.” HW 53080 Docld:32252528 Page 47— - Be
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and he pulled commana ie roree office of Pedro. “Ana s naturenty 1 ‘ran vie im who | ‘was: in ‘high ‘pasties. 80: vpid winnie to “go, néad'and smooth things~ovér. But he. knew. who was — _ 9 Mr, Triplett. okays “on. how. many’ occasions: were: ‘you aware | Of a well, there. the wena wen, 4 woine aay = | | | i “And r a | a | ot Le Hl | | of ou sa sty the. most. ‘serious: plots: “tT "rit ealiing’ about * he real. ‘serious: ones” ‘that I was. invelved in =~ was | about three. Mr friplete. ai rican Geraldine - at. sun Fidel castio. t ie ‘ i ! vty 4 : i { { ‘ i ! ay i i
HW 53080. 44 2 ot me if and when the time’ came. She was strictly intelligence. Strictly intelligence. . I've asked Marita. ‘Lorenz to be involved with a { 7 +i} I was told, well okay, unless we: get the word ww Ay ae ae from Washington, don't do: anything. But at. the” same Be | game 'T had meetings with: Military commanders: ‘who. = cP venee to kill him. | = af Mr. Triplett. ‘thesé were Cuban’ military ae 7 | commanders, of American? oe : oe | Z : a The Witness. No. They were Cuban. military = MI commanders ‘who wanted to Ri11 Fidel: and. ‘who wore | Sk: eeviag to, you know, devise a way. and. Te offered | = 2h aike, hey, I've got command of the military. police, | 2 | wnseh x was personally tiaining these ee | ‘§ lat the same time being Director. of Security, same, | ve | 4 - | ine: spying over here, game time being involved. ‘in. TV" air these damn conspiracies, you know, so. 1 had a 2 eo) mean of a time being involved ain all. of these things. | = "9 And so I suggested, you know, like hey, Fidel. | vin the ‘country 1 he flies in with a helicopter. “He” ! Lon | _,comes to the Air Force Base. “te he “goes soméplace | can . ee | “comes: over, he sees me, he hugs’ me, you “Know, and | | { He has meetings on the second floor: of. ‘the headquarters “Air ‘Force Headquarters. Hey’, supply me swith plastic’ ire] i 25 | | explosives. I'll) kill him right thére, you know; on ae . ALBERSON SEPCRTING COMPANY: INE. DocId; 32252528 | Page 51. ~ ve Co ae : a
cond floor. Or, af you owant: me to stop’ hin tide the. gate ry stop hin: outsiae. hr. Triplett. Now, “who are you making these <i 993 pesons: ‘to? de. Triplett. “Col "he fengaa * “The: witness. we21, ‘that’ s when
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fe | Ricardo. Lauria, to go: (to, Wash. ngton: and 1 give a: List. af pate. of all: the: Communist: agents airectiy. to the ° Bypass, ‘that. ‘damn’ “Embassy. ne. Triplett. Tf you. sould «give. ‘a reason, what. Fidel Gastro! Ss Life at that time? othe’ Witness. - wells I would say that the. divi dial persons, th ‘were: ‘Being used. in. order toe | we chdoned the roots out, and rf could a daninea: convoy, ‘out. could: have ‘killed, cena Mr nriplete. But you cprarently. were ‘not: 5 if anybody, was in wdhdeger
Hw 53080 “hi 20024 (202). $54=2345 TNG, WASHINGTON, D.C, -& a Qo oth, s 300.77. STREET, poeta: 32252528 ‘Page 55... | divided and I'm sorry. ‘they: were divided because i “me. If I knew then what I. know today TI- would ‘have . | and I would have killed Fidel. The Witness. Right. Absolutely I did not © have the “green light. See, my loyalities: were divided.” f0'bs. very a ‘honest with you, my loyalities at ‘that, time’ ‘were “-woula have spit at the: ‘American Embassy +. believe _ spit at the American Enbassy and I would have said. the hell with the American Embassy and everyboay. there, see. And I would have ‘listened, ‘to. ‘my: ‘friends | | 7 | 7 |. But because I was an American, my decision ‘was.more toward the Americans than my own. friends, © which I should have went along with my friends. I “15.1 would have killed that dirty bastard. Mr. Triplett. Okay. But who specifically told you not. ton ifs a “anybody? The Witness. Nichols said don' t ao anything. || Leave him alone until we get word from: Washington, -and that! s it. So trying to be a good American, forget ate Mr. Triplett. When did you finally leave ek Cuba?. June the 30th (of. 19595; ‘because’ of The Witness. TING/ COMPANY. ING.
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ING, WASHINGTON, 0. C, 20020: (202) 85-2345: Oo REPORTERS . BUI i M, 4 HW 53080 Docld:322 . Eitbassy. “out. This was, I would say, a month later. But: “when. bss. ‘page 59 Sp ‘Well, let me tell “you what happened there. 1 had to arrange the escape 6£f Pedro Diez Lanz ‘because aL ‘ : of the ‘Embassy because they refused him astyum, which | I. resented bitterly... Marcus ‘Diez ‘Lanz. also. “ALL right Meantime, at that, time we thought ‘CIA was still. “all right, but we had our. suspicions within the Marcus Diez Lanz was ‘helped by CIA later ‘to get I came over on June the 30th, I took evo aireraft from Cuba. over here. One was a C-46D, that waevin’'my naive, and a B-25 bomber that was in my name. okay? | Now, so I had to arrange, to get. those’ aixplanes over, here before: 1 defected. I had meetings ‘over there owith ‘Pedro and so. forth and I wanted to. cenuse. an ‘uprising there. I said look, I have ‘command of “17000 troops here at the Air Force Base. - iet! Ss get “nord of President Arukia (phonetic). TH. put 500 men’ around the Capital, the Presidential: Palace, if : president Arukia will denounce Castro, you know, and the Communists. President Arukia said no. That Castro was “misguided and said no. Well, he was saving, his own assis what he was doing. But also I wanted to go ahead and. destroy much cCMPANY. ING.
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: But as time went, by -we did start to associate’. ourselves with certain, at least not myself, but" . | to ourselves. Pedro’ and Marcus, ‘with certain people. who’ were, you | know, of the Batista faction. And then myself later 2n07H (202) 54-2948 The Witness. I received -- well, ‘not. myself | any pay from the CIA prior to the Bay of Pigs? = eons But before. the Bay of Pigs invasion, -we:. Had a special flying group. Mr. Triplett. When you say we, who? Be gt The Witness. Pedro. Diez Lanz, Marcus Diez “Lanz cand myself, using my B-25. Now this is the same :-- Mr. Triplett. (Interposing) how about.-the C-46? REPORTERS. BUFLDING., WASIITNGTON, D.C. | | | | ! | | i} | Ld | oe _ 2 Mr. Triplett. Did you receive any money. or. | { | \ | | | | | \ § | | } { | The Witness. . Well, ‘that was not used. We >. ie | | | | -I sold that eventually. That was not used in’ the Bay co mL | | Mr. Triplett. This was your B-25? The Witness. Well let's say the B+25 was. in “my name. Registered with the FAA in my-naites Mr. Triplett. Well, whose was it if it-wasn't | .yours? The Witness. Well, it was money that ’was:paid for by the. revolution, you see, and naturally ‘being nae: ee ALOERSON REPORTING COMEANY. INS... HW 53080. Docid: 32252528 Page 63 coe ee
Ne. ariplete. Whé "else was there? ‘The’ Witness.,° Justus. Mr. ‘Triplett. The: three of you Pedro and -- — mae igHeee “Ciatezposingy a8 ney. | As a‘matter ite or ‘the: “BS 25; I think we had: an’
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in court. A fact that they could not prove because there was 2,000 Anéricéns there at that time and they watched us throw ‘these leaflets out.... : Mr. Triplett. pia you have secasion to purchase any other B-25's other ‘than this one?®. | -_ —_ The Witness. No. That's the only B-25, and. the B-26 that was ever purchased. Ana that was in 7 i). My name, registered with the FAA, or at that time © I, think it was the CAA, or whatever. _.. Mr, Triplett. Did you have any contact,» . have. you had any contact with Rafeal Hanscomb?.. “ wastitriatom, D.C, 20026) (202). $56=23N8 | ss he Witness. I don't know the man. Mr. Triplett. How about Ray Sanstrom?:, © ra The Witness. Yes. ‘Mr. Triplett. Okay. When was your: contact and what’ was the ‘nature. — with Ray Sanstrom? : The Witness. Well, Ray Sanstrom is an Attorney ap’ in Fort Lauderdale. Ray Sanstrom i8°also°a-pilot.. 0). Ray’ Sanstrom, I believe, worked for cra, Mr. Triplett. What was the naturé of you | contact? The Witness. He was a lawyer. He coy OM. Triplett. Was-he your lawyer?- af \ ae aI ERSON REPORT? HW 53080: Docld:39252528 Page 67
| . | wye er went, to. him’ for legal advice: “carlos: Blanco? (phonetic). Re Witness. Carlos, ‘Blanco? “Triplett. “And. what type, » destings: aN Bethel? mo sO oe the Witness. None whatsoever. But. I iknow “I ‘ve ‘spoken to: Paul. several timés Mr “Triplert. Anything ‘other ‘than: social NW 53080. Docla: 32252528. Page 68
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-association with him? The Witness. At that time there was no. association at all. Mr. Triplett. How about after arriving in the . so} unitea States? Das, 2002" (202) $§¥=29NS. The Witness. oh, yeah, when we arrived in the -\United.states. | ‘Because.; of the Bay of Pigs any of bus: got together. Many people we didn" 't know, you | know. - | Mr. Triplett. Are. you talking about: ‘because of the planning ‘for the ‘invasion or: the: ‘aftermath? '. The Witness. No. Because. of. the (planning ’ | before the invasion. We came in contact. with many ; ra people'we didn't know and some people: we. dia ktiow. ot (Pl from cuba. Like, you know, Nino Diez ‘I knew from : 2) a Z. 1 beet = . , varaee [> As is Cuba. . And Nino was. involved in the Bay of Pigs. so: 2 2 3 vad ‘Docla: 32252528 “page 71 And Artime. I didn't know Artime in Cuba, but. I met Artime here, you know. As a matter of fact (the. - people I was with didn't like Artime. Mr. Triplett. By the way, when and where did i you first meet Bernard Barker? - The Witness. I met him when he lived in the | Northwest section. I met him, I believe, either _ with Marcus or Pedro Diez Lanz. We went over to his house. ALEERSON RESORTING COMPANY, INC.
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HW 53080 ~ DocIa:3 959528 Paye 75 spreading, out and you'd: have to. go ahead and kill, | | people, ‘both political or ‘military. That' "Ss. part ot pm Fighting ; a war, you know. | Mr. Triplett. Well, you mentioned Antonio. : DeVarona (phonetic). Tony*Varona. a The Witness... ‘Yeah, Tony. Mr. Triplett. “when aia you first. meet hind” 20024.(202) “S54=2345. “The Witness. I met Tony here in 1 exile “before the Bay of Pigs. Because we all got together trying “ple. to “get ‘the ‘Cubans together | to organize a vresiatance ITHGTON.; “movement in exile ‘against the Castro Government Mr. Triplett. When you say get tog bse meetings with Tony and the.’ Ws [os people? | ‘The Witness. “Myself? No. I went wi various | other people. “For instance I went with Ped reus.: =" => wi Wes ‘even went to New York with Marcus sterlin: Re | 1 "S| tneze. We spoke with ex presidents, you k | ' with Tony Varona at the time? | : The Witnesisii: Not too many. I'll be. very honest jith you. Not too many. | oy. er -_ a Mr. Triplett. Three, four, half aidozen? Sabo os) ithe Witness. Yeah, maybe a couple: of jeetings. ere “Because again” I m not politics and my friends would be. ALSERSON REFORTING CoM “Mr. Triplett. You did have one or more méetings. ce nn I A RR A
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of that? Mr. Triplett. Okay. de that have raised private money for the purpose., of. fighting Fidel Castro or providing propaganda. against. i { i Have you been involved in any organizations Th The Witness. Yes. ea: Pedro Diez. Lanz, “Marcus. Diez Lanz and mysele: | a, a ran oe Again, they made the connections with various. People a y re on. io | for ‘funds | ‘in order to, you: ‘know, operate | against Be a. ‘Castro. oP aan Mr. Triplett. Okay. eg! } . : : “8 aa When you say with various people, could you be. ee | more. ‘Specific? How did they raise the: ‘funds and ‘from | whom? ‘The Witness. Personal contact. I. wild: “go. ahead - ae IF |. ‘pea tell you one of the groups, because most of the’ I: ie ‘people I don't know .who they got the funds ‘from Il Because it was not my position:to do’ that. rok Bacardi Rum Company, which’ the -Vice=- “consul, the’ “Station Chief in. Santiago works for the Run: Company | after his retirement. - a et et ee tee ee ane een e e e  en - re eat Mr. triplet. And as a result of raising this . ae money, did you personally make | any trips, into: and | . 25 ood “out of Cuba? | HW 53080 | Docla: Sazszse8 Page 79 oe ee
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HW 53080, Docld: 322525278. Page 83. The Witness. I would say that I myself personally! did not. ‘receive the money directly from: the. ‘Government. 4 It was done through other, people, which other: people. do i i 1 | Government? os Coes | . } | : : ‘ | got-me to do it. For instance, Dr. Louie Conte, { |. Aguerro. He directly said, "Frank, what! s’ the os Mr. rriplett. -ana: what was the. average’ ‘cost’ . -2002N (202) S54-2345 c “7 | operation cost? Here's ‘the money." And, I. got at. |, Of each operation? | The Witness. About $5,000. $5,000 period. ! Mr. Triplett. And that -- dia that inclade » jomoney or reimbursement for you and the other people 1 | involved to support your families? 7 ~The Witness. No. That was money for the | particular operation. Mr. Triplett. Well like you say, flying in: \.and out of Cuba, one flight, dropping leafléts, woula ‘l) nave cost $5,000? | ‘The Witness. Right. Sure. You've gdtvan | airerace. You've got to pay the pilots. vou had |oto give the pilots like $1,500 each to do this mission. | This was a mission that was a naturally dangerous » |. tlission. Yes, as a matter of fact. Alex went on several _ | i of these missions with me, taking pictures *of the’ ALDERSON- REPORTING COMPANY, INC..
HW 53080. DocId:3225275 The Witness. _ fice-Consul. f Sant, Me. Triplett. Let! 's” go: back on. ‘the: record.- “the Witness. ” guantci: vétrea1 1G Mr, rriplett. And. “your ‘first wi “the Witness. eo. x “Mr. ‘Triplett. Patterson: ‘the’ 5 he Me Triplett. SARSOEEGR othe Witness.
HW 53080 . 1 nN “ww te in 2002" (202) SS4-2945 REPORTERS GBUTEDING, VASHTHGTON, ..C, cs <7 Re t 200 7TH STREET, |S <a Docld: 322: 528 Page 86. The Witness. Pedro. /.-to ‘that time? The Witness. Right. “have with Mr. “Barker? Mr. Triplett. All at his at his home. “you. to dinner. Ime a bottle of booze. -~ STonnaT NG “ALEERSON REPORTING wused to be a Ranch House there. — The Witness. At his home in the Northwest section and I believe when I met him I was’ with Pedro. Mr. Triplett. Okay. who introduced’ you? Mr. Triplett. So Pedro Diez Lanz knew. him prior Mr. Triplett. And how many meetings did you The Witness... oh, nuiierous. home? The Witness. No. I had meetings at’ restaurants; “Mr. Triplett. At how many of thesé meetings dia “money actually change hands at the meeting? _ | ‘The Witness. Never with me personally, As a matter of fact I received gifts from: hin, from h his | boss. Either going out to the Ranch House which: was -on, close to 36th Street near LeJuene ° ‘Road. om He took. me “enero i He ‘took me to dinner and ‘said the boss told me: to" ‘take “Another time. ‘for a Christmas holiday’ he gave” Mr. Triplett. Okay. You received gifts ‘from ‘his COMPANY. ING.
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HW 53060_ The Witness. I'm: not sure of the. ‘exact month, - _ but I believe it was 1972. Before, you know, I got involved with the Plumbers Unit. the special intelligence unit formed. by ‘the President Of: the: United States... Mr. Triplett. You. never met him before 19727 The Witness. To the best of my knowledge. L 2no2H (202). $5¥-23n5- “Boy chad: ‘never met this man-.before (1972. ; the. jae! “knew; ‘Eduardo. I did-not know E. Howard Hunt sah Fane go. -Never: personally. met this: man to the best of ny” By o- Jae Wek, Howard dunt, nor did I know that: Eduardo was E. loward Hunt before’ 1972. ' Never ‘knew the. connection. between’ them. & me Mr. ‘Triplett. All. right. ene What was- your role with réspect: ‘to the, ‘ "| tnternational Anti-Communist Brigade? : ey The Witness: Well, going back, understand, E "my role was at one time this was a a group that I formed c ah, 5 * een ‘were one of many many. groups that was “forhted Sli join the Miami area. I'm talking about Cuban groups “who were anti-Castro groups. And Jerry Patrick Heming :(phonetic) haa a! (group fot Americans from the United States or from. Canada han the area, that these boys were associated with” eee cae 7 ALDERSON REPORTING” COMPANY. INC. Docld:32252528.. Page 89 ; beeen Never at all. I don! t ever recall meeting t
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Mr. Triplett. Just:one occasion, or more than | one occasion? 94 back I think what, about '60 or '61. That's about it. , 3 The Witness. One occasion... That! Ss poison. Boe Mr. Triplett. And again, who contacted you" Beh or that purpose? Both The Withess. For that particular. purpose, who, £8 | contacted me to go ahéad and set this. thing up? No: (2.9 bone at all. Just the: Cuban groups, you know, here’ 2 in| my 7 Pobroatves, trying ‘to. go. ahead and do penetration work ine of Cuba. We were going to sai te pa vtaet (| naturatay. oe Boh | Mr. Triplett. So it was a joint dedision of ee te sense you. weré a part? | on The Witness. A joint decision. oe a : Mr. Triplett. Well, whose idea was it?” § 3 The Witness. Yeah, it was a joint’ decision ‘to. | go ‘ahead and try. ‘to kill Castro: naturally. which, “eontinues until this ‘day. The only exception’ is. ee ia os oe oS. eae a a a> that ir' m not involved today and haven't been ‘for the ‘last number of years to do anything like that against. ‘Castro. at oo re on Mr. Triplett. How many times pane YON Bene Pace a : | from ‘cuba have. you been involved in planning or. we tn 7 | ee an assassination on ‘Castro? - Se ’ e = ALCERSON REPORTING:COMPANY. ING. 0” HW. 53080 Docia: 32252528 | “Page 101, eS PR gh wa
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_and who knew about how. to do: the roulette whesl, | you know, electronically and” so ‘forth. So I was -golig- to go ahead and do that, but unfortunately 1 didn't have time to do that, to get the proper people to work for Sy) the Cuban Government in order that the tables would ‘be, rou know, operated in a legal manner. - : And naturally there came a day. where Figel ordered me to go ahead and close the casinos’ for ten a “aays, which he wanted to. put them out of | business: ‘| which he did do for ten. days. | : Mr. Triplett. And you personally closed’the | a éasinos for ten days? The Witness. Well, I notified the casino ~~ 1 i aia not notify the casino operators ~~ but r notified is; the: inspectors that the casinos were ‘going’ “to. be “REPORTERS BUTEBING, .WASIITHCTGN, D.C. 2002 S.W. S230 7TH. STREET; Closed on a certain day. So naturally, Pasternita, | ‘Nunez, Who’ was tHe minister ,. sent out. the memorandum: i form, to the. casino. operators | that the casinos. were’ AsSeang to. “be. closed. And they got furious about: ate :When the. order came: about, that day. Ate was: “|-elosed, ‘naturaily inspectors with troops: went, to the. - s = ‘Docld: 32259528. ‘Page 109 | casinos and made sure that the doors were: locked and. nobody could enter the casino rooms to: do ‘gambling. Then the next thing that followed that” actually, was, big demonstrations of the families of the casino ALBSRSON aspoaT: NG COMPANY, ING! a
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throughout the. ‘easinos; all. the different: casinos. ao “Swe. triplett: How | ‘long were you. actually. a. “-¢asino. inspector? EMIne? _. The Witness. ‘Well’ Ie would say y fron February DING y WA neil. June when ‘To. lefty. ‘that was it: t. the | 30th of ‘gune;: 1959. ms oe ix. teiplett. ma “Mr rripiete. | abe . ore Bee ee “ghe. Witness. T never Fate ny sens mnataceeer jp MEER anyones Wong: whataoever:.'Be HW 53080. Doelday32252528. Page 112°.
106 ‘not include doing anything with those people. “Tr have rid. interest in those people. Mr. Triplett. Did you receive any favors or _.Bresents from any? oe The Witness. No. Never. | Mr. Triplett. Did anybody offer you ‘any favors. OF presents? | a The Witness. No. I would not be in this situation today, the ‘way Iam, if I (did. Because I understand that t people - ‘who. deal with them have good | connections. and. Ir an throughout this whole thing with Watergate, in : a So very very bad financial situation. All this’ publicity since Watergate, with the JFK situation, have ‘left, “| | | z| | | | | | | | | | | | : | “me. ata very very bad situation - financially. REPORTERS :BULLDTNG ,~VASHTNGTON, D.C. 20024. (202) “$54-23W5 5 4 ‘otherwise, I have had tremendous positions 7 e a ny a | offered me, but unfortunately because of ‘the exposure: that. T have received throughout all of. this) ie has “denied me” really to earn a decent living. Aad if-t° 4, 9007710 STREET, ‘Rad mob connections; -believe me, then I would be ali ‘right. Mr. Triplett. Have you ever héard of somebody: ‘called Stretch Rubin? The Witness. Oh, yeah. Sure. Mr. Triplett. Did you have occasion, at. one’ time wo fo “ 7 —_ “ALBERSON REPORTING. éc PANTING. HW 53080” Docla: 33252528 Page 113
“to save-his Life? ome Witness: on, yes.” “In, ‘Santiago. Mr. “Triplett. How @ia that. happen? “The. ‘Witness. Well, r was in my is: + netted. you. know coher a “you. ‘steal “anythi Sy On, whee
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HW 53060 REPORTERS. BULLDING , AW a: ee mn = oo. 2624 (202) SSH=2345 ~ D.C. WASHINGTON, Pa ee DocId:32252528. Page 117 managers who was operating the place. Mr. Triplett. Who’ was that? The Witness. I forget off-hand who it was. - So they mentioned, this is Frank Fiorini. He is Fidel's right-hand man. In charge of this. “I.mean, this is how this thing went ‘around. So. Ir got to know | who was who, you know, and I made my report, ‘when IT | got back to my office with Pasternita,: because: gee really didn't know who was who and so forth. > Because pmany of the documents that they had concezning, you know: the ministry. concerning the casinos, many: of. then “were missing. So we had to “go ahead and. find out who was involved in the Hilton operation, who, was, linvolvea in the Nationale, who was involved” an: the | capri, who was involved in the thing. “Yow nowy we | had to go in and try. to make a list of these things /. I casinos. Mr. Triplett. — Well, who. were some of these | | peopie that. you do recall that Stretch ‘Rubin and’ Hymie ie evine. introduced you to? The Witness. a ‘think one'o of them: Was Santos | ®rageicante. Let's see, at the Nationale. Ir think ne introduced me -- who was the operator | of ‘the: lNationate -~ McLeaney (phonetic) I ‘think. was the one ALDERSON REFCRTING CO MeANY, INC of ‘the. people involved in the operation. of ‘the ‘gambling |
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‘feeting’ him: —«. | ‘Bart oo4 for him at that time, or later? Shilmon? [-tarking about. * owMr. Triplett: .Have you ever met Dominic’, Mr. Triplett. Did you ‘ever perform.services . The Witness. Perform services for Norman 9. ‘Rothman? oMy. Triplett. ‘The Witness. Mr. Triplett. “Have you ever met-Jogeph ™ The Witness. I don't. know Joseph ’Shilmion. Mr. Triplett. shilmon? The Witness. You mean..Commandant Schin “Mr. Triplett. No, that's notuthe-man we are _ How about Robert McKewon (phonetic) ?..” The: Witness..-“I don't know. The name~sounds liar. I might have read it in books: or something _ * Ty Bs “about McKewon. But I do not.recall personally ever | apr, one?" oS The Witnesses: Oh, yes. Yes. 2 8 0 Triplett. » When and where .did-you first.” Witness. At the Air Force Base. ; I think his people 1S COMBANY. INC: we de Oe hese people.
And 3 put ‘more or less. avelout’ oes fit, because I said hey, what’ the hell: are. we’ going to, a you know. whey. wanted. it: I sign te sean ae “engine, aircraft. And that is how. T meg Bertone." i" . Mr. triplet. “And: have you had. any, associations | wi th: ‘Bartone since then? . _ eee | The Witness. No. . I -met Bartone one’ othe: in exile, through the exile movement. “Mr . Triplett. . when you say in exilé, you mean. here” in ) thésUnited States? mo i Cae United state: The: Witness... Here. inthe: be equi iptient: Hedegsary ‘Lo £ight: against | ST ee, gee BE BR pee | Mr. Triplett.- You may have met: him? ‘The Witness. I think I did one ‘tine, with: “Hynie Levine. I'm not sure. I. am pretty, ‘sure: that haa aby connection vith him, Syne Mee Triplett. “So you were associati ing with’ ° 5 % | Hymie Levine after: ‘your return to. the United states? | " ve Cr ~The Witness. Oh, when I ‘came. over: neve I ‘ran. | dcréss: HHymie Lévine one: time, yes. Hymie Levine’ at) BW. 53080, ‘poeta: 32052508" i ‘paue 121 co
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‘*.) him since you-returned to the United States? the ,itness. - £ bods poh Pare | Triplett. And have you séen or talked’té  * te Witness. I think ‘I run intovhim one’ time,” i “possibly . | | | ‘Mr. Triplett. “About” when was that? “The Witness. On the. Beach, I guess. 2 I'm going, back many years ago now. Mr. Triplett. Okay. 7 Witness. And that was accidental Triplett. ‘This last approxima ély we talked about -- it might be more 11 what” yéar, where ‘at or come. Te hag been years.) Mr. Triplett. You go to ther Bedeh quite _The Witness. _E haven' t been at. the Beach for: nent = ain teen enn :
x “Mr. Triplett. ‘Have. you. ever. had. vany-'ags o rug ‘Enforcement ‘Administration?: oMitness. ‘Yes. : ‘Triplett. . And what’ type of. feesntettont ariptete, 3 sim - gueniiante badcheee “The Witness. .Yes. dim Buéanhan"s brother: i Jerry Bucanhan:. “So. L. made. contact: wath a “Mr. Mevaine (phonetic). | yee pete Mr. rriplett. “what. was. this first) name? “Do. ‘you. <4 name. There.
a. I ney use. There's con ly: ‘one. agent that uses. that cee | ‘particular Code name. Mr. Triplett. Okay. The Witness. ‘And in the. process of nab meEy contace with Mevaine, I. got a. “cals fron the: | thing here, the Rockerfeller committed ands : oa, ame ove of ‘jail? and t said, yes, I nace a , gin asis. it. pertained 0 National saeee ber duels “fina ont, you “knows besaune Fa pues nane. Seineaniy, Ios 4 HW 53080. Docld: 32259528
to: wiake: contact, with them. rganization? °: The Wittess.§ U.S~ Customs: Investigations... Mr. Triplett. | well; “this is very intéresting, { | | ‘Mr. nriplett. what other intelligence: 9° | | | ob Med Sturgis.» My auéstion was, have ren ayer ae or contact: with the Drug. Enforcement Administration? we The Witness. ves. this is what. Yeas’ Spee. -oMre Triplett. “ All- right. Keep;gojng then. ©. Ms “the: Witness. $0" we had a. meeting: with ‘the. a ae . g. ey “hn Mr. as with them. and that is. it. ee Mr. triplett. ‘And > is. that the only contact: you’ HW. 53080 Doela: 32253528 Page 129.
ten that anda few: other, ? to work with these”people. Triplett. Are yow familiar “with The Witness. Yes.. Triplett. And what is your asSociation. = Witness. . I have ‘no personal association this ‘is where Jerry: Bucanhan, comes “i “because. he worked ‘one-thiat! Case. Mr. Triplett. ° Bernstein was with DEA?, The Witness. Bernstein, at the bégin ~S. custom, this is where Beinstein’ at ‘a. HW 53080 °)
|: Because’ I am notin that business. — I am not Jin’ ‘the: business of investigations. or anything 1ike that | at. _ the present time. But: any: time I would gather . some information through friends’ Of mine, Like cA fellows. who were Cubans, this information, if Tr. felt that. it as” “essential ‘to. ithe: Government, cnent ieeile véek w. shim ‘on FOE ¢ or CIA. He was my scnnaét vitntthe. eae I maintained to: t hem, that ‘much; + of the ont involved ‘in any (of these. things - as. far’ as, you. nowy: Betis the informant. on anything, like ‘that. Ea made dae URE wo see! thats Get in. touch with him, | vand | ‘then they were on their own. f. kept: out. of it. “ALSESSON BES ORTING” “Benes ING, . ‘ HW 53080 . Docld:32252528 Page 132.
Mr. Again, ‘why did you: “use Steve ‘Czukas, as”) “a egos male between? Triplett. The Witness. can do. not. know. me The witneas. Triplett. sApane OF ompheveet The Witness. Witness: nay - To wour. knowledge was hea CIA. ‘Steve Czukas? and -personalay: I ‘like him. I have Heard Of EH HW 53080. Dot 4 To my: knowledge, . Soy Because he had contacts with CIA. |) see The only ‘thing I know. about. ‘Steve: “trenéndous man. “are you familiar with-cesa fe pot ‘I had my oh seHhAn: ERR: ME
5 ‘activities to persist. De nakan ahr ROG kuowing | this, the: Government . put’ fre ssure.on-me. it ; ee i { I went with Marcus: Diez. fanz to. go! ‘to. Gua Ale ye? x > Pee : 4 : n Oe | Lanz" picture, that we were there . for che united. States, which . was not true, for the cnited states, So that. evening at our hotel, the: chie®. Intelligence officer of President vdigoras. “te ‘us, that for all. concérned, it would be. much” ‘Better ma . that we leave:: Gliatemala becacuse of. the international | ose talking with’ President. Ydigoras. So: naturaity » Govérninent, arranging’ for bases in ‘Guatemala tov invade aa]. toronto De pean mesg ne nee ner re ct ante =
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HW 53080. DoeTd:3295 Mr. Triplett. Was that early 1960's or late... 1960's? The Witness. I don't know. Mr. ‘Triplett. ALL right. || Betore everybody got the bases in You. know. what I mean? Mr. Triplett. one’ pou had associations with the Immigration. - Service? - _ Secret Service? - The’ Witness MP Mr. seipieet. “an Firearms. & cL Wy OU ‘know, because of m: activities . i io , . + Page 136. The Witness. No. Not. that I recall. Not - ‘that, I Eageauy 4 It had to-bé early The Witness. This was before the Bay of Pigs. and: natadatization ‘The Witness. I.do not think so. Not that =r. Mr. Triplett. How about the United: States!) ™! Mr. Triplett. Alcohol, ‘Tobacco ‘and Fitearms?’
The Witness. Here?” Mes tripiete. Here, or anywhers i se tik cn ORT MS Reve sontes _ matty the veer, i received ®: sn cuba, And enti guy laying footsies. He* Ss a ‘millionaire,
and they wits ppay their little. games ra ike me got to struggle ‘in: this, world:: Mr. Triplett. Let's take a eive miata {A short’ recess. was ‘taken. ) Ne Uidtea States: arity “to aate. “De you have a record of ‘that ava’ “the Witness. to date’-+ 1et ne make sora, af my Attorney. WiLL Look at’ ‘this al ave this newspaper card: re jade county. ~ “Show. at: to 0 Mr. Fonzi. Mr. Triplett. het the: record © 52528: Page. 140°
Mr. Triplett. Okay. Why don't -I advise you’ | of what we know. | | | ee | You got out ofthe ‘Army in 19522 The Witness. Yes., Mr. Triplett. and'.from '52 to 1954:yo “ins virginia Beach? The Witness. | Yes, sir. Mr. Triplett. Did. you have any othe: D.C during that period of "82 to '54? ~The Witness. Well, before that r ‘owned ‘ab: = oO Zz. be. 22 2S ITEDIN Mr - Triplett. After 1954 wh The Witness. I think I worked with ae. , building storage ‘tanks. le “was a real estate salesman in. Norfolk. Mr. Teiptett. ~ .I believe. so, yes. | "? Pacta: 32252528 © Page 141 ;
occasion to be in Panama? The Witness. 19552? I am not sure, sir. Ine 1955? I don't believe so. Mr. Triplett. Dia you happen to be. “in. ‘Panama. at the time that: President Ramon was. asnasdinat ' The Witness. No, sir. Mr. Triplett. “You were. not? The Witness. No. I did know -- . Mr. Rubin. (Interposing) Now Frank, that what I mean. Why don't you just answer the. ‘quest ons The Witness. No, I-was not. ae Lichen Ny D.C. 20020: (202)- $5N-2345_ MY SS = oO ‘g , = 5 3 sdid’ you know? The ‘Witness. Again, ‘the Panamanian exiles: " “contacted: many of us in. ‘the: Cuban coverniient 1, REPORTERS, Bt rv One of the persons. who: contact me , which. 1-fou d™.out. ‘later supposedly was dnvolved. in the. assassinat: of the President. of | Panama; sr ‘Mr. - Triplett. (Intexposing) And who! was’ that?” “ fe ‘ ‘the: Witness. 't forger’ his: nané,right now. did: have his name. Mr. rriplett, Cowld. I suggest Rubin Mirrow?. ye (phonetic) . ‘The Witness. Right. That is the mar my 1 . i i + ' a7 fac de Be : te = a wt .. = | ~ c af 5 | o- . ede : 4 . i | oth ‘ de { t i | 25. | 1 , t t t oy 7 | | 7 | ! | [ ! Mr. Triplett. Well,.my next. question’ is, what, |: ! | | | | | | | | | | | | i | | Mr. Triplett. Where did you meet 1B | i" ay at co ty le 0 ALDERSON RESORTING COMPaNYOINGS: HW 53080 ‘pocld: faodsboae.. Page 142. . one i ee
Mr. medplate. . | Did you ‘have occasion: te viate ne, “The Witriess. Tap nok Fenenbee Triplett. uo hin tiueabée? “noaabe ” “Mr, Triplett. “During this same pe ~ Mr. Triplett. “S Going-back to, 1956; is that -when-y< xrived in Cuba?” cc “The ° Ww ‘i tness a Mr, irtpiett.. And you" Veta in Ae ot te * The Witness. (mitérposing) No. Mr Triplett.
OR on moniés, you “know, fromthe group itself. Mr. Triplett. Did you ever have. oocaa _ manage a night club: in Cuba? The Witness. Never worked with ‘no ‘night “club: “in Cuba. — Never worked: ‘for anybody - in Cuba’ “ Cuban. Government. Mr. Triplett. Okay: And in traveling back and forth, .what™ was: “your purpose in traveling? ‘The Witness. Strictly. to maintad the snGerground organiagtion,. Wish, chet Off Mr. Triplett. ‘Mr. Triplett. “Any other places that you" raveled during: that time? The Witnese. New York, “fasbington Mr wee ad | ‘The Witness. - Mr. Triplett. | : to the united ‘States, |
: yj . 1h what was your. employment? 2 |The Withess. I had a company that was Formed” Mr. Triplett. Hampton Roads Salvage.Company?. .- | | | 3 |. called Hampton Roads Salvage Company. © og ao The Witness. Yes. Su2aus - (Mr. Triplett.: And.was that a corporation?,, 9. “the Witness. ‘Yes, sir. It was a ‘Flori Lal -cOrporation. . oe - ne! Mr. Triplett. Who we _me eiEness. ran no Mr. Triplett. When. you" “first... -camé “out of Cuba, ‘Mr. friplett. Who is’ we? ‘The Witness. “Marcus; Pedro and: mys Mr. Triplett. What kind of business? sa The Witness. “We: had an | office on 17th Avenue. ‘business. COMPANY. ING. 28 ‘Rage 145°
Mr. Triplett. And ‘How’;long were you in‘t tho | bisiness? om Witness. 1 Not. too. “tons. “was” “going paonane fOr ah Ba $ with thém,..sometimes 1 e ‘Barcardi. and: then: ‘there oMes nriplete. “the Withéas. Mr. micas HW 53080 Docld; 32’
| personally. .The owner of Barcardi. Other : peopie. | { oo ee 2) who gave money, they had. an: office here cand their | jomata office was in New York, that time and they came into exile. © And,. wha ‘the name of this magazine, Spanish maga biggest one in Cuba.“ And they gave monéy to th “The Witness. Yes. From.‘the Cuban. cé Mr, nriplete. “The, s be Bohemia? (phonetic). the Witness. Bohemias,! Righty, wae ok .. gt hs a Mr... Triplett. _ Did you ever, receive: bey ae “oh ae ¥ | from the. Cathetwood: ‘pdundation? 3 a “the Witness. Who? » Mr. Triplett. aS) | The Witness. x ‘ HW 53080. DocTdt32953528. Page a47 jainst Cuba at that time? “That was, join déubee’ ae
2 veal ‘Mr: teiplett. wenn, “your organization, The" tness. twas net aware of its Mr. Triplett. - Then. in September, 1961 por hcorporated. the Hampton ‘Roads Salvage Cc ‘The Witness. of Florida. ul Mr. Triplett. with ‘Pedro and Marcus" Di -What was the nature of that busingss? ne Ritnene. Well, .we ‘tried to. do ‘some OAL. the: same: time. vt was. ‘to be us “ae no “wt ss tod ‘ || Operati ionswagainst: ‘cuba. foe pata Pwr, Funding: for that corporation came Pe, My boat -- well, | HW 53080: DocTd: 33
‘Cuban, his name is eee Garcia wre wore AF nat “ Mr. Triplett. Primarily for CIA operations?. ° The Witness. Mell, -let me say, primag " the. Cuban. business command ty, but CIA had use. boats. Mr. Triplett. ‘on a contract: basis? The Witness. Anytime they wanted, thet ;. available. Plus we were available also. todo t { | | “us _to ‘make a living. ° Even: though it was funded by tie | | | “the: operations. | be “Mr. Triplett. Oh, they. paid for- it then “that. yes or no? Did you 1 ecaive pay. for « Ab, The: ‘witness. ‘from CIA. Mr. “Triplett. Did the company -- not te for “these -- The Witness. ‘(Interposing) From the Cuban“ > business colony. nr ae rc Mr. Triplett. In other words, it'wasn't™ “> eontributing the: services? . There was. ‘some ".s' “HW 53080", 2508. Page’ 149
“pay. from ‘somebody? The Witness. MAB, Right. Mr . Triplett ; mo . ne ; 4 : hoy fe Triplett. “wel; “Bertrums_ ite C866 tonins Witness. — Broker. _ Triplett. .Brokér.- So, who’ was the. previous don't know. ‘They would. have é the Witness. I ‘think 80: Yes “Me, Triplett. - What. dia. that’ mamé “nie A phe Wianeee. Nothing. “poera 32952508. Page 150
The Witness. ves. Certainty. — These. people had contact: on a very high teva, , (2 fewhich I did not. Even though’ r did meet- the. F resident : later nyseit. But they more or less, as far as. 'S) @perational procedures with. Cuba, ney wid ois bike. level. -I was not. Mr, Triplett. After the Hampton Roads. Company” ->aissolved, or whatever -- D.C 20024 The Witness. (Interposing) Just ‘faded away. Right. NGTON,. Mr. Triplett. ‘Paded away around, 1963 = figuring. is. correct, some two years after it was! -*- [started -- what was your employment or sourée"of*. y iF 18 incone after that? te a Sant fe “Tg Ado The Witness. Same thing. With the Cubah bus | “ The Witness. For a number of years. “Myself; 300 7TH STREET; rith the Diez Lanz brothers, more or less.” He: | [other things to do. Pedro, I think went on a. 01" ae: \1ééture tour. “ana we ‘were struggling when’ we: were: not *geceing financial assistance from the’ Céiban ‘colony. Te Blas a struggle, you know. | i Mr. Triplett. Did you have any other employment - aera So - ALPERSON RESORTING ‘COMPANY. ANC. ‘AW. 53080.- DocgId:322 26 .Page.153. re ” ER Pets wo
vat that time? The Witnéss. Tr probably ‘aiai” od ‘But T: don te -récall specifically... y aed " * oad as ng, * Fete “ithe witness. At that time, “MY. Griplett. Do; “you. ‘recall. sake ‘the: Witnegs. “Not off- ‘hand, no. meiplett. Mrs tt eo “The witness. The Witness. Yes. Mr. Triplett. Would
with you. where you were! working? The Witness. Yes. Certainly. Yes: < think my wife does keep our récords for’ ‘the last “five ©‘ Mr. Triplett. or Mr. Gonzales, if-He is a ttér accountant. oe . : | the Witness. certainly. £¢ 2 “Pan “American; Pan Amé ri can Alumni nun Cox poration : Or.a great number of yéars. - “Who owned the Pan. Mr. Triplett. . The Witness., Oh, I.don't know,. ‘Some Jd It is asvery.large jcompany... Pan Amét Aluminum Corporation? Yes. They're off.o Boulevard “and- 183¢d Street. As a matter of "fa
149° have a record. Plus when I got out'.of prison I worked’ fora ame was Pedro Martinez. I worked for “hima. short”. ‘ mn ee sy sage Ts land’ Repai And. from the. egg. businéss ~~. t ‘| theze, you know, in. the income tax: file. * Mr, Triplett. Thenthat will be avai abil to: check? The Witness. Yes. Sure. Mr. Triplett. ‘Very good. ‘You tientioned Manuel’ A
,; : The Witness. (Interposing) That is Marlona. Mr. Triplett. Marlona Artime. The Witness. Right. r Mr. Triplett. You mentioned Marloha. Artie. ‘as: | one of those that had contact with high, people. ‘in. thie government. "(202) 850-2348 The Witness. ‘Yes. Mr. Triplett. “What exactly was. your: setetto Dic. 20026 “during: the early - 1960! Ss ‘with Marlona Artime? The Witness. Well, I knew Marlona eens iMarlona Artime came - out of Cuba working with ‘the cx. HASHINGTON:, Ag [REPORTERS BUTLOTN Ye 3 Ne gaa: Marlona decasionaily came ‘there ‘to ae vbecause we used” that ° ‘as. an office. And many Cuban’ exiles who: worked for the. Agency . ana ai “3g0°77H STREET, S.We Work “for the Agency, coming out of: cuba, ‘ents wa itst place they. would come ‘tor the Brickely: “AY ete ‘house. Mr. Triplett. Now you say marlona areine’ ‘came. was” “he working for the Cre before he: fete. Cuba?’ SAW 53080:, DecId: 323 2528 ‘pages? --) ALDERSON. REBORTING:COMPANY, ING: 2 & Oo out. of Cuba working for the CIA. To your nionedge
me meipiete. oF igees ie ae a Safe novse, ate ‘brickell. ‘avenue? oe Avenu today.» mr. “Triplett. You. ‘haa, t presume, var, Mr. Triplett. And that. ine @ Diez Lanz brothérs?” The Witness: Yes. . And Mr. Triplett. Eduardo? The Witness HW. 53080-) Doeld: 32259528: “Page’158
léast not to my knowledge. “Eduardo never came’ there... al “Because he. dia not have” direct: contact with: us a Mr. griplett..well,. he aia in’ ta “sensé “:€6ntrol, did he not?” “Witness. Melt, the. political. “Again the) Z : “aspects: of the: ‘thing. Raueinbies!. 3% Triplett. But the financing ‘too: ee dependent upon the political aspects, wére The Witness. Yes. Mr. Triplett. So, in. that sense he: a “a fairly important ‘control over the operation: The Witness. Yes. “a you v were ‘on: Novelibes’ 22nd, 196 the fitndes. Yes. jE Beep ages My Aiea gees od 528 Page “259° HW 43080... Docla: 339
Myr. Triplett... on. what ao: you base that ag surance? The Witness. I really “can not ‘Say. I wasthere Triplett. Mr. a “$54~-2945 m3 | Oh the 22nd -- I: i | s The Witness. _ iT had ‘to, be here. 1 nad te be ie “you “know you: ‘had-.to be here? fy the. Witness. Welly the ‘only: thing oa ‘can Saye: aye Ps “the withésses ‘who. ‘have told me, for. insta Cc her-in- “law, my nephew. He lived) with: me. é, myself and I believe Jim Bucanhan,, “ribe “BELL Johnson ,. because, we ‘were. “involved » ‘invair: operations at that. time. - Mr. Triplett. “Age. ‘you saying you later ‘ai fe wien all. of these. ‘people?’ The Witness. on, coming out, naturally, 1 ceneainay 1, ghegeeee: BME ‘then. hina’ netove: I knew where Eons than dei egice ose Se ae I saw. it on television. ce HW 53080 2 Décld: 32: 52528 “Page. 160,
HW soso" " Boota: 32253h28. “page 161 "On, reruns? The Witness. I imagine it was reruns on." television that day. 4 - ‘these accusations. and T went to New York and udbeested by the New York Police Department, ani that I wanted to take a. polygraph examination. “D, Cs9'20028- (202) $542 oo In the past, I volunteered to take a'polys aph: ‘examination with the Watergate “Committed, with the “Rocker feller Committee, and volunteered’ “with: ev IASHINGTON , 4. ae a * _cotimittee to’ take” “a polygraph! Now the're, With this mess; ‘that Marita Lorenz eS released on bond, I immediately told my “att eney t } { you. are telling us. that. “the finding was’ ‘that ‘you were Hot! deceptive in your answers? The Witness. That is right. ‘And: ait. yé “my answers were, q would be very happy: to: te Mr. Triplett. Frankly. ‘I.do not. want, nto a second hand account of some wines poteSik” ‘The Witness. All right. Cpe As a matter of fact. ‘When Marita Lorenz, “made: , ‘ereated, I asked ny lawyer, 7 want to ‘take a polygraph. vAnd I did take ‘ay polygraph’ aha’ é: passed. the. polyg aph. Mr. Triplett. well, when you say you pass dp Taike | to ask me questions of what I ‘was. asked what - Mr. Triplett. And again,- just to makeour.tecord
Isknow you nave Bei s the Witness. At my nome” at. Apts, Novehwent” eet, Miami, rioria, Zip “code. 33167. “Mr. Triplett The Witness. Ye Mes = “The” Witness.” pont we Be triplet.
_ was my mother-in-law,: my: nephew, my. wife, myse Le f And as: a matter of fact, Timi Bucanhan did: ménti n to. during all this expdsure | over ‘the: JPR ai ie that he came over, he told me that he came He house that afternoon’ and that I left W térnoon. So thére is a possible outsidé : : 6 her than my family ‘who knew ‘that: I: wai A = | particular day. | Mr. Triplett. Sim Bucanhan? The Witness. ‘Jim Bucanhan, yés. . how to get there, you know. fhe. wishes ‘to have ity, I will give: at to ae
“Let me ask you speck ftcally, a4 yon, 49) The Witness. sin, or “derry Patric | Lanz, or ‘Dry Orlando. ‘Boseh; 4 ; at wf oy |: vaitea States, She is. a liar. I took. a ‘polygkeph | pited states, ‘nor did I kid ‘the Pres aa BO United states, nor | | 7 fe) gpcrtae'« to | kill the President of the. ‘united tL a j | if | tO | “Mr. Triplett. Well, not. getting int oo i stions about, it is’ your teatinony then # | » i
y NW 53080, -Docld:32252528° Page 165 Sam Mas HINGTON, SH. REPOR’ See ne eee a the: Witness... I have’ went,. because. of 0 erations: | texas into Mexico -Lfte- dentral america,’ it ee ‘stayed at any particular instance in. order +t yuy. - -and I believe -- Mr. Rubin. (Interpésing) No. Just tell him). 2: did you make the trip? 7 The Witness. No. -I did not make the tripe sie ‘Mr. Triplett. Very good. Thank | you. _ attas, texas? Poa “that I had heen | doing: and. SO forth, travele’ -And I would say ‘yes, sir, I probably have. béent rough “not only Dallas, but other cities in Texas. tes ao Mr. Triplett. ‘Now specifically around: gune “ot July of '63, sid you.go to. valine: tor. tha pisos of: purchasing weapons? iy weapons or anything in Dallas or anypiade.i _ Anytime I went through Téxas it was str “t¥ansient. | | — Mr. Triplett. Your answer begs™ a” “questio tittle bit. Whether or not you stayed in pales ‘for a purpose of buying weapons. Did you” ever, “go. “Dallas. to ‘buy weapons around June or July. of 1.632", No, sir. . The Witness. ~ ALDERSON RESORTING COMPANYHING. to | The Witness. t have: never been to ‘pallas. here.
Mr “triplett. Were. you ¢ ever in an automobile: ith Heming, Bosch and Marita Lorenz in the. Florida: The Witness. -No, sir. Mr. Triplett. Never? -The Witness. No, sir. With Marita Lore |:Orlando Bosch and Jerry ‘Patrick Heming?: ‘Mr. Triplett. Correct? The nitness No, sir. oo ; aos The Witness. et perma by Exes, sires Mr. tripiete: And have = yous On deena tees oe Yes, Witness. Some. sir. "ae: witiose!’ 3 six. rrect estimate. No. ‘Mr. Triplett. “say that you have eyvilae ALDERSON’ REP
a j?heWithess. used. Some. Yes. I-won't go into de! “ae of it, yes. ‘Mr. Triplett. “And this would be both’ .? at. 2°" “the: Witness. Yes, sir. : Président -Kennedy? “ghe, Witness. Some, yes. . Becaus: * nformation regardi ‘The Witness. “That is»right. ee Mr. Triplett. Would it be fair to-say"t ‘Same regarding Paul Mescal (phonetic)? ‘ghe Witness. Yes, sir. —
i. in articles? “The fences. Tene! ai Even tHeGEN FABER ‘The naar “Mr. Triplett. - Ghiaracter. ' The Witness. ‘cmbor oi thinas +. this) ais why rE sf ponomenrEtech: But in: ‘the: ‘past, wees Becausa Te ‘sith onae'wae. in touch with. me. Yes. “nét ‘seén him after we left Cuba. The last. Hi - 53680 Docra: :32252b08 | Page 168°
| of them are that way. ‘Mr. Triplett. So, you are saying that” from. to at least June 1960 until: the early 1970' ‘Sy you. aia: “Wot See Andrew St. ‘George? . Cra ‘vyears: I have not seen: Andrew St. George. MY, Triplett.~ Has he ever tape recordé¢ ‘pp taterview with: you? a re A “Fhe - Witness , % Tt is Possible. rT aon’ t kno poe not sire. * ta ot think “$0: “ate least: Tt an ‘not , ‘aware of it. Me . i * ro en Mr. rriplett:. “Have you talked with him over, “| the ‘phone during ‘that same period? | The Witnéss: Yes. ‘Mr. Triplett. How many occasions? The Witness. ° On a number of occasions ying to get me to signa contract to write 4 because of my feelings of his underhande¢ ing about it and with “him not wanting £0: 88% -torney look over the contract, I did not. sign’a . “peontract with him. So I blew the déal:. Mx. Triplett. Now have you personall : |occasion to investigate the various allegations © regarding the assassination of John Fe Kenneay? SORTING COMPANY INC. ‘| réporting. And I say some of them, because not all. The Witness.’ Not to my knowledge... - In“ all*those.
‘The Witness. As much: as I could financially. “Because, again, my rong —> this thing has ‘not 2345 ut? wt oe S.,. LM , ON ite, ‘weipieees. nave you worked wth, oF the meneen. Well; “when you: say work Me: ‘Weaplete. -‘daveiyeu ‘peovial’.. _ The Witness. Well I would. a sey: wiih ond at have Baise: Died» bana, ‘and he was trying: to: heip UY
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a the Witness. No, sir, . I. have not. AS a. matter of fact when I came ‘from’ cu Mr. Triplett. Now wait, 1 do Hot. understand . _Aineeroas ng) «Tos va dittgh ‘Pank ng ¥ . 2 Me bs ie q 3 rs L % oe, “3 cra official who: ‘was. an | Admiral. Had thesra 3 ° 5 m Triplett, And why? The witness.” ov ir am. talking about “BY Cuban’ frien ' gliggestion: of: any Government Intelligence Agency?
waturanly, by-taikinglwieh § le who have. past CIA connections. ay Mr. Triplett. Wasany of this ‘ever in: on junction w ith EB. - How ard Hunt? xs The Witness, No. No, sir, Mr. Triplett. pia’: ‘you; ever do any’ inve: thes the: assassination as® far back as 1964 The Witness. “Well, as: far back:as. i96
SHINGTONS, D.C. os ney ‘2 a ia a. or 2. & a) Abe S3nn 74 STREET, S.W. a 4a 0: Doela? 322 that? -lhearsay evidence, internal security, but wee “aia know’ that he: haa. Pigs invasion, you know. “He was a “conduit, ‘tet! s- ME Tarabuchi also was a: ‘person who night nave! in ‘touch with the ‘Dade. “Sounty, you know ;. ‘the’ tose law enforcement agencies vat ‘that time. 528. Page 174 also to the FBI through friends of mine. Mr. Triplett. What’ is. .Mr. Al Tarabuchia's-— position, or what was it at that time? _ The Witness. I forget. I think he worked I. ‘couldn’ t exactly tell. -you ‘the correct | name’ ebrcnite Y could be wrong and you “know, I don' t. know but. he- dia work with the | Government. Whether at was: " a on arr a a igh © wat _sémewtiat of an: involvement. eyen before the. ‘Bay Of: _ *. 2 - ‘say, for the ‘Goveznnest ain, this area here. And I could possibly, go as far as: saying that’ “Mr. triplet. “You jsdy there was an. inv< eee by Cuban Intelligence ‘an the assassination? Is that | i what you said? | The Witness. Yes, sir. Mr. Triplett. On what evidence “ao. you! base: fo aay “ The Witness. Most of it hearsay: evidente, sir, ofa SON; REPORTING COMPANY, aN. Mr. Triplett. Okay. What ‘is the. ature, of. the
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hem ior had. an. 4 Are you familiar with a Rich Gauchli;” tort “Mr, THiplett. \whén.and ‘how ‘@idy fhe Witness. I do not'-know how I:me ‘know at.one time: another. friend of, mine én’ a newspaper man.-~ + shonetic).-- Yamas*Montéz: isa pérson: who..was” in ‘ose contact with. General Wesson jin the: Dor nto. that. -because™’ wea “q won't go i o with this. “di - | } Rich Lauchli. I think it was. in chi a farm, or at. his home, or something’ | o.an organization, | 1’ a Ls i nization.
M this area here, trying to. ‘go. ahead and “sell th _would need to “fight against Castro. Now I do not: know how I met this “man, adhe’ meet the man and I did go get some. & eat 4 never.Had ‘any. more ‘contact with f Mr. Triplett. a ‘Mr. Triplett. oméetime or another you’ met him. Correct?. ~~. ‘The Witnéss. “Well, not personally, Mr. Triplett. I see... | The Witness. I don't ever recall meéting”the podosbs Page. i790 — ALDERSON | RE SPORTING: ECMBANY. IN
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felationship with the ‘spécial intelligence: wun t What: unit: were you. referring to? _ ‘The Witness. The unit © that, van fasted Pe the r. Triplett. Let! s “take a five “mi A short: ‘recess was. taken. ) “ riplete. “All ® ‘right. and.we, 11 be done; Mr. More name. cat yeu. Witness. All. Fight. ? The Witness. Yes, sir. he. wi tness.. As what. occurred, de ‘anyth ng ara : .
dressed: in his. and hij ‘and so forth. ; That's oa “Mr. ‘Triplett. .okay. - _oThe Witness. My-wife. warried.a Mann, divorced « ‘ally + And who is Lora Norri Mr. Triplett. | Mr. Triplett. I see. | So the three ‘of church, at least on paper?
The Witness. No. Just being on there» asi. 3° Mr. Triplett. “I see. ‘Was’ th : harrying your wifé: Janet?. The Witness. I don't know. You wil ick the dates réal'ly,. vr. Triplett. Well, I.think you ‘sai ‘en.married for quite some time. ‘When: di¢ ess. I. f6rget. No, irried at thati time: “Mr. Triplett. Well, if I told you tha the’ incorporation. papers ithe: name. is Ja Mr. Tripett. All right. Let me “get - The ‘Witness. : Yes 3 ~ ; “Mr. Triplett.’ So the ‘two sisters -sil it The Witness....,Yes..- Mr. Triplett. Did you have: any*-=.
. al . a o-- foe] dealings with a General Biddle? nN The Witness. No, sir. . Mr. triplett. All right. I don't think’ T have: any further quéstions at this time. You nave Been : . Coan . oon ? before the connbdestir at. the conclusion. of the estioning, of a witness, for the ‘Chairinan s tite, feel: free. to.state vate “mie Witness. No. satisfied with wall the Bee pone
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