| -41- diamonds, and Al, what do I do. Go ahead, talk to him about diamonds. So I said Oleg, what do you mean by diamonds? He said uncut stones for cash. I am a Soviet official, I cannot go into a jewelry store like you and buy them. I want diamonds. I'm willing to pay a hundred thousand dollars for them. I said, I said tell me why, Oleg. And he said, “Money, why does anybody want diamonds." I said it's a good enough reason. So I said, "Hey, Louis, what can we do for Oleg about his diamonds?" And Louis said we'll figure something out. And then Oleg said, this was at a dinner party up in their house. Hot diamonds, he wanted hot, uncut, raw diamonds. So he was serious,-he was dead serious. He said he would buy them for cash. FS: How serious was he? Did you ever get any for him? ML: Well it got this far. We told Uncle Al the next ' morning. I said, "Uncle Al, I got a surprise for you. You're gonna have to come up with some hot diamonds. A hundred thousand dollars worth because I promised Oleg that I would get them for him since he can't buy them. Oleg wants diamonds."’ And I said if you can put two and two together maybe this guy will defect because he's talking about the State © of Washington. I said but you have to be careful, I have to be careful, no? So Al said I'll get you the diamonds. You tell him to get the cash ready. So Uncle Al went to an underworld source and got. the diamonds. Uncle Al made a boo-boo and Oleg, the day of the exchange I was supposed to make the sale in tthe apartment, Oleg was at a sports meeting in Washington,D.C. Uncle Al.said, "I've got to give these diamonds back to the underworld or give them the cash." I said, “Listen, I told you tomorrow, not today, Al. Tomorrow, because Oleg told us he's going to this soccer meeting in Washington, D.C. Alright whatever the kind of meeting it is. He is in Washington, D. C."" "Oh is he?" I said, "Yes, he is." Right. Anyway, Uncle Al started to panick because he was in my house with a hundred thousand dollars worth of uncut, hot diamonds. FS: By himself? ML: By himself, and I was supposed to get the cash from Oleg. Oleg said on a Thursday and Uncle Al came on WW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 223
-42- a Wednesday and the whole thing... FS: So what happened? | ML: fell through. Al said he had to give them back to. the underworlds, to his source. So he took them back and then Oleg, you know, I had to talk my way out of it. It was just one of the flubs. But anyway after I left my husband Oleg kept asking for me, kept coming directly to the apartment and say- ing, "Louis, I don't believe you two split, you two go, she left. I don't believe it." And my husband said "yes, she did leave. It's her own problems, Oleg, you know, forget about it." And he said, "No, it's not possible. You must stay together. You must stay together." Anyway, he kept coming, about four times and asking my husband, until my husband made a joke of it and said Oleg wants to see you. I mean he's made it damn plain that he wants to see you. In other words if you're finished I'1l take over. Where is she living? My husband tells him I'm living on 88th Street. Now I talked to my husband and I said what did you do that for? Tell him I'm living on 88th Street? You know, because I know he wants to go out with me. You can feel it, I can feel it, the, you know? So I call up,Uncle Al meantime is transferred to Newark, I get another case agent. Louis gets a case agent for the building and he works alone, without me. The other agent is John Kotter. FS: With the FBI? ML: - FBI, 69th Street. I call up John Kotter. I said, ' "John, I hear your taking Al's place", and I meet him. Drop things, start things, drop things, different assignments, then we get to Oleg. I said look, Oleg is bothering Louis. He wants to go out with me. And John Kotter says, "Beautiful, that is a beautiful setup. Let's call him up." I said, "Hey, wait a minute. Either do this sophisticated, alright? First I'll send him a Christmas card and sign it Ilonka Marischa, you know? I'1l put my. phone number on the bottom, something you know? Or I'll happen to be there when he's going into the “Sy / building, or I'll bump into him." I said you don't “ just call him up. You know that's going to be like a setup because I've been avoiding him. So, anyway, he tells, he outlines the whole thing.. I said what have you.got planned, John. And he says, “Do you HW 50955 Docld:324293630 Page 224
‘HH 0955 ~43- realize what a bomb this is? This top KGB spy wants you?” And I said, "Well", I say “he's not really my type."", I said but again, the best interests of the country, but how far do you want me to go? And he said "all the way" I said what is all the way? He said, "You start with a Christmas card." Well the Christmas card was answered by Oleg going to Louis and saying, “I got Ilonka's Christmas card. Where is she living, Louis?" You know, so John talked me into | calling the mission. I call up the mission, across from 19th precinct, and I said, "Oleg, this is Llonka Marischa. Hello darling", you know, and this, this and this. And I. said oh boy everything is wired and everything from the mission anyway. But he's top dog there. He is top dog in the mission. He has the. say. He's a very important person in the Soviet mission. Anyway, John okays a telephone coil pickup that I have on my phone to a Soni tape recorder. We ‘make a tape of this because John Kotter is sitting on pins and needles waiting for me to replay that tape on what Oleg tells me, you know? Oleg doubletalks but we get a message that we want to meet, you know? So they had some kind of a security council and we made a date and it was postponed. Oleg called up and apologized which I also have on tape. And each FS: FS: Well... time the Bureau was very happy. We're gonna start a blossoming relationship here, you know, and end up with photographs and better something, which I don't think I would have gone all the way. But that's what their idea was so they can exchange at a later date. Blackmail? into Blackmail him / giving them information (unintelligible). Say like they get one of our, one of our pilots, right? And if we don't get our pilot back they expose Oleg, vight? Or make him. FS: FS: Docld:32423630 Be a double agent. Blackmail him... Be a double... into being a double agent. Right. | | That's the idea. Page 2245
FS: FS: FS: -FS: FS: FS: ~44- And I'm in the middle. So, anyway, I go, I go to the mission with my daughter, who was at the time 12 years old. My daughter, I guess, is a little use to my life. She's use to FBI all her life. She knows not | to talk. She knows whether we look at her when to say something. I guess she's the closest thing: to me now. She goes along. She's very cool and we both walked into the mission on the pretense that she had to do a project for school on the Soviet Union. She needed material. Now as soon as we walked into the . mission everybody there I know because they reside in © the building. And they all say, "Ilonka Marischa blah, blah, blah, blah." And I'm very friendly with them all. They all love my daughter. But we're. there for other reasons. We're there to go to see Oleg. We gather, we gather the material, meanwhile I'm aware that every picture has an eye or every poster has a mirror or camera, you know? But my daugher's very cool and we're left alone in the room where the Soviet material is displayed. But I know we're being watched. She knows it too and she doesn't, she says, "Mommy, look, this is beautiful, beautiful." You know? Then I ask for Oleg to this very, very tough Soviet woman that said "What you - want?"', you know. .I said "Oleg Likichev, please. I'd like to speak to him." And she called and he is still in the United Nations, he asks you to wait. I refused a wire or anything like that, but... What wire are you talking about? A wire on me. Oh. Because... That the agents (unintelligible) Yes, because Oleg I know likes me and if he sees me he would grab me and hug me and that's the Russian way... - Yeah. ~ And he'll feel that and I'm dead. Right. Right in the mission. That's not my. proper there. Right. NW 50955 DocTd: 3242393630 Page 226
FS: . FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -45- And I wouldn't risk it with my daughter. So, anyway, we waited. We were allowed the run-of the place. We knew everyone there and... Like you say, eyes were watching you. Oh definitely, definitely, because that's how they test you when you walk in there. And you just don't get in there and have the run of the place, you're not left alone. But I know you're being watched. Sure. Anyway, there was this, it was, it was a legitimate excuse that Oleg was tied up in the United Nations because it was in the paper the next day, that it was some security council meeting. And I said "Please give this note to Mr. Likichev. Tell him thank you very much for the material. And best wishes to his wife, blah, blah, blah," and we left. Funny thing is the cop outside almost arrested us, a uniformed police officer. For what reason? He gave us a dirty look and made a very slurring, nasty remark when I left. But I hate to knock the police department because they're helping me now. | But, I guess, he didn't know, you know? Yeah, he thought you were Russians. | He thought I was a Russian. Or a Russian sympathizer. Right, especially going in with a child and I looked very... Yeah. American. Anyway, I got home and John Kotter was waiting in front of my door. I remember it was raining. He was reading. And I said, he said "Are you going to meet Oleg?" I said, “Now how the hell can I make a date with Oleg with my daughter?” Yeah. . WW 50955 Docld:32429630 Page 227 -
~46- ML: I said Oleg's in the United Nations. Why don't you tell me these things before that they're delayed at a security council meeting, you know, instead of me letting, letting me sit there. You know these are all the little things that use to annoy me... FS: Yeah. ML: that they have to screen things first before, you know - check things out, don't have to make a blunder like that. Anyway, I said I left Oleg a note. I said now you go home and I'm going to take it easy and they, we tried, and I said, "You know, John, you're just going to get me so involved with Oleg. I'm not going to end up in bed in a motel room upstate somewhere with Oleg so you can come in and take photographs. That's not my stick." I said I'll gather garbage, get license plates, tape, do everything else, but, I'll even take the mail, like I've been doing, but I'm not going to be caught in bed. I said that's too big a pawn for me and I'm not getting anything for it right now. They allowed me to take mail, steam it, photograph it and put it back. Some of that mail is now missing, which belongs to the Soviet people, which this perpetrator, perpetrator has and wants to blackmail me with and I asked the FBI to please help me with that. ‘FS: Who's the perpetrator? ML: The perpetrator is Guiseppi Faisiano, aka Pionne, - aka David Ring, who broke into my apartment and stole > this tape with Oleg Likichev, these love conversations, the mail, and part of the Albanian code. He has those in his possession. He threatens my life with it. He threatens blackmail with me. He assaulted me. He pistol-whipped me and I asked the Bureau for help. . FS: Did he try to throw you out the 18 story. build-, window? | ML: Yes. FS: He did what? _ Mb: ' Yes, he tried to push me out the window. ‘ FS: 18 stories? ML: Yes, and I told him stay away, get back, because if anything happens to me there's letters with the Justice Department naming everything 1 know about you, HW 350955 DBocld:32423630 Page 2279
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -47- and he stopped cold. He threatened to shoot my -daughter in the back. He's threatening her right now with disgrace because she is the daughter of the, of a well-known man. Right now my main concern is the, these letters and the code and the tape and possibly other things, are in the hands of this Guiseppi Faisiano, and he wants money from me and he's probably right now at the building. He is casing the Soviets and he's going to try to go to the same people that he has on the letters to tell them that I was an informant for the FBI for revenge,. for having him arrested on the assault charge with a gun. He also wants money. He wants to disgrace the FBI. He's blackmailing right now my husband, my ex- “husband, for the master keys of the Newberry. My husband is calling me for help and I don't know what to do. I asked Frank to help me. I gave him the code because everybody refused. I was afraid to have any-, anywhere. I guess Frank helped me before in Cuba and I don't, I worked, he worked for me and I worked for him and I don't know where to go because, the only ones that are helping me now are the local © police - in their lunch hours or when I'm too afraid - to leave the house they buy me milk and fruit for the kids. And they'll take the children home when I get a threat on the phone or a box in the mailbox or get my back door shot at. I take my children and I put them in the 23rd precinct. They even, off duty... The off-duty police, police officers take my children home..._. -And they spend time at the house? And they spend time at the house in their free time when they should be home with their families. Well you have saved the life of two people, right? I would think so. Well, you have. Yes. “When, one of the, who are the two people you saved their lives? WW 50955 Bocld: 32423630 Page 229
Hiv 50955 FS: FS: FS: ‘FS: FS: FS: FS: -48- A federal narcotics informant... | Undercover agent, right? Undercover agent Pino Cantanya, and Assistant Federal District Attorney Thomas A. Puccio from Brooklyn. And you saved their lives because a contract was being put out on them? Yes because I overheard and everything I said checked out. And even though you have saved their lives... I asked them please help me with this man, he has Soviet documents, he's hurt me, he's hurt my © children, he almost shot my daughter. He, I asked them please help me because I gave you information for nothing and they said they promised to do something on this individual immigration-wise. So far he has threatened everybody around me. My physicians, my mother, my ex+husband, my children, my neighbors, my super. He's an illegal immigrant? He is. I would say he's an illegal alien. What's his full name, his:real name? -His arrest name, that he was arrested under was Guiseppi Faisaino. He has, he's also known as David Ring. He has a passport under this name. He's also known as Pinno, and he is a gunman. Never worked a day in his life, never paid taxes, he's. a gambler, he's a stick-up man and I worked for the FBI on organized crime at the racetrack. Roosevelt. Raceway, Yonkers, and... Any other agencies? Organized Crime Commission Bureau, OCCB. ' Ever worked with DEA? Drug Enforcement Agency? Yes I did. Bocld:32423630 Page 230
HW 50955 FS: FS: : ~49- Who are the people you are in touch with? Two agents, Murphy and Shannon. This was... You know their full names? Well I have a day number and a night number and I did some work in the Newberry with my husband ‘with them involving the Cuban narcotics connection FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: in South America. I also worked with the organized crime, gambling. Now you've turned, you want me to turn this tape over to Senator Baker's committee to be turned over to the Justice Department, is that correct? Right? Yes. You want me turn the... Yes, I would like you, Frank, to turn this over just in case something happens to me because I don't know which way it's going to come. And you need some protection, right now, right? I need some type of help for my children, because of this man Pinno threatening to expose my dealings with the FBI and to the foreign press. I just caught up in this thing since 1959 and I've been with it up until last month, last week and I've just, and I need help. There is no help. I mean since last month and I don't want my children hurt. They've already been hurt. Alright, I promise to turn this tape and the code. over to Senator Baker’ s committee, right? Yes. Who in turn will turn the information over to the- proper officials in Washington, D. C. Yes. I don't mean to embarass the Bureau. I know how important it is but at this point I need help desparately for my kids. They're 6 and 14 and they don't deserve what they have to go through. The whole summer locked up, threatened and afraid, and Docld: 32423630. my daughter of exposure. Page 231
FS: FS: FS: Did they every try to, to kidnap... -50- Yes. the kids? They threatened to kidnap my children. They were once abducted by this man. I had no knowledge of it. On the last day of school and he, he will hurt them. He will hurt them - this man is sick. He's, he's on 10 valiums a day. He's unpredictable. He's vengeful. And his close association with top mobsters? “Yes he has close associations... (End of tape) HW 50955 Docla: 32423630 Page 232
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‘Transcript of tapes provided the Select Committee on Intelligence by Frank Sturgis on September 3, 1976 Marita Lorenze (ML) -- Interviewed by Frank Sturgis -on 9/2/76 Frank Sturgis (FS) ML: FS: ML: FS: FS: FS; FS: FS: FS: Marita Lorenze You an. American citizen? Yes. Were you born here? Born in Braemen, Germany on August 18, 1939 and my mother registered me at birthwith the Consulate _ because she was. stuck in the war over there, but I -.am an American citizen, not naturalized or anything. I was registered as an American citizen. How old were you when you came to the United States? I.was about 12, came over on the U.S.S. Henry Gibbons, American troop transport, because my mother worked for the United States Army. Okay, now we're going to go ahead and jump. You went to Cuba what month and what year and on what ship? I met, I went, I took several trips with my father who was Commander of the oceanliner Berlin. I met Fidel... What was your father's full name? Commander Heinrich Frederick Lorenz. ‘And how old was he? Approximately 50-something, 55, when I first, I went on several trips to Cuba before I met Fidel with, but I was a little girl. When's the first time you went to Cuba after Fidel took over the government on January 1, 1959? I met Fidel February 28, 1959, on one of my father's cruises where Fidel came aboard with several of his men. He said he saw the oceanliner from the Havana Hilton balcony and he took a launch with his Chief of the Navy, what's his name, I forgot, Castagna... Forget it, forget about it, we can go ahead. Who else was there besides the chief of the Cuban navy. BW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 234
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 Selia Sanchez, Haiti Santa Maria, Paco and Fidel and several of his armed guards. Okay now, what happened Castanyava... Castanyava Castanyava was the chief of the Navy. And Fidel offered you a job or something, can you go into that? Well he was very fond of everything German. He said he read and my father, you know, tried. to pacify the tourists, the passengers on the ship because they were terrified. They thought they were being invaded. So I helped my father pacify the tourists and it was really a funny scene. Then I steered Fidel to my father's cabin and we went to dinner and Fidel started to play kneesies under the table. And this was February 28, 1959 on the cruise. And he offered you a job, right? Yes, after about 5 hours. on board ship we went back up to my father's cabin and had drinks and exchanged gifts; and my father and Fidel seemed to get along very well... My father is diplomatic and they exchanged plaques and my father's silver ashtray and ‘stuff like that. And he asked me, he asked my father if since I was bilingual if I could go, come back, return to Cuba to be his secretary since he was getting German mail and he did not speak German and he assured me that I would be safe and set up-in an office, and blah, blah, blah, blah. . And I had friends in Cuba anyway. How old were you then? Nineteen, nineteen years old. Did you get off the ship and stay there? No, I went back to New York. Fidel, on the bridge, asked me for my phone number and address in New York and said he would call me, and I just, I didn’ t believe it. Page 235
HW 50955 FS: When did he call you? The same day I arrived in New York. Because my father took off that night for Germany again and the phone ring, and it rang at 1 o'clock in the morning. I guess. the previous. Well he went back to Germany with the ship, right? ‘Where did you go? FS: FS: I was living with my brother in New York City. My brother was a translator. for the United Nations and I was alone living in New York City going to the Merchantson Banker School. Well how did you get back to New York City from Havana? On my father's ship. It was the last stop on the cruise of about 5 or 6 stops. Oh, in other words the, in other words the ship left that night, left Havana that night... FS: Yeah. went over to New York and then from New York went back to Europe, right? Yes. Yes. I thought about Fidel and he pointed out this is my Havana and I guess I was impressed. I . was young, I don't. know. And I thought that.. FS: He called, he called you, he knew just about what time you were going to arrive in New York and when you got there he called you, what, the same, the same day you got there? The same day our ship arrived, three days later. And I just picked up the phone and the Havana operator said one moment please, the Prime Minister is on the phone, on the line, and I heard some shouting and then I heard "hello". , Did he speak Cuban or English to you? He spoke broken. English in his hoarse voice. I guess he was giving a lot of speeches at that time. And he asked me, "Hello Marita, you think I don't call? I think about you very much and I call. I keep my word. ‘I want to prove to you that one man's Cuban word I keep.' Docld: 32425630 Page 236
(contd. ) FS:. FS: FS: FS: FS: So, I was as surprised, I was very surprised. How long was it did you leave New York to go to Havana? Fidel said to me, I said is this really you Fidel, and he said yes. I am in Havana Hilton, you call me back in room 2408, and I said no, alright I believe you I said because how else would you have my number. He said "I want you come back. I think ‘about you and I will send a plane, my plane, and you come back." And it was a joke really, I liked the Cocoa Glace, it's an ice cream in a cocoanut shell, and he had sent to my father's ship.a case of it so I would have enough for the return trip home because, I don't know, I just talked about Havana, the island in general. So I, and I still didn't believe him ‘that he would send the plane. Did he send the airplane? Yes. What kind of an airplane did he send? A.Cubana airliner with.. Four engines? Yes, with two men and two men came to the, my door. I was living at 344 West 87th Street at the time, on the second floor, and my brother was at a UN party and I -was home alone studying. Oh no, in fact I was- reading a Herbert L. Mathews article on Fidel Castro _ and Cuba when the doorbell rang, and it was Jesus and Pedro and they. showed me identification: One came in military uniform, the other in civilian clothes. One smiled, one didn't. One said, "Are you ready?" And one said, "We go now. Fidel want very.much to see you." (Laughter). And I said I didn't finish my homework yet. I was like in shock. I-didn't know what to do. So they said they were staying in a hotel, that they would, the plane would leave tomorrow, please be ready. I, meanwhile I haven't even unpacked, you know, from the cruise. My HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 237
HY 50955 (contd. )* FS: FS: FS: ML: FS: ML: FS: ML: FS: ML: FS: ML: clothes were all laundered anyway from the ship and I hadn't even unpacked because I was worred about missing two days at school. Yeah. So I went. Well these are incidentals anyway, so, what'd you do, you went to the airport? What airport did the airplane, was the airplane at? Uh, LaGuard, which is not Kennedy, it was at that time named. something else. Idlewild, right? Idlewild, yeah. ‘And... It was Idlewild airport, that's where they had the airplane, Cubana Airlines? Yeah, Cubana Airlines. Got on the plane... How many people where on. the airplane? . Me, a steward, a.pilot and a co-pilot and the two © guards. Ha, ha, had -- that's funny. Go ahead. So anyway, 1 I met Fidel and that's when I got involved. This is more or less a background so. they know her background. Yeah that's, that's out anyway. (Unidentified voice: "Yeah, right.'') FS: FS: Bocld: 32423630 . I mean don't drag it out so much because the details of all this thing is.. Yeah. Is yours, you know. Go over it Lightly. So you went back to Havana, right? Right. Page 236
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: . FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: No, ML FS: Docld: 32423630 Now when you went back to Havana you saw Fidel where? Cause we'll go over this lightly. I was in the... At the Hilton? I was driven by black limousine right to the Hilton. And that's where Fidel was staying at the Hilton, right? Yes, he was having an argument in his suite with Chez Raoul and some Americans. He was having some argument with some Americans. Do you know who the Americans were? Yes. Who were they? One lady attorney trying to promote something, Muriel.. Oh this was more business or something like that? Yes business. Everybody was trying to promote this and that with Fidel. Yes, well that's immaterial. So then I was told to go in the room and wait and the door locked. And I was in there, in his suite, and Fidel came in and I missed him and he missed me and the rest is going to be in the book if I ever write it. You'll write it don't worry. Alright now... If I live. Do you know approximately when you met me? A couple months, or two months, or three months after that. That was very, I think you met me around what, April? April, right. April of 1959, right? Page 239
HY 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Yeah. And I believe we met at the Riviera Hotel in the lobby? Yes. That's where, when I saw... That's what I said, a couple months... Right. | right after that. FS a Bocld: 32423630 In April, right. And this is where we made contact and. so forth and then we saw each other a few times after that... In the coffee shop. In the coffee shop and this is when you were recruited to go ahead and spy for the United States and so forth and, were you ever introduced or, to Colonel Nickels? Yes. Do you know who Colonel Nickels is, right. He was the Colonel who was military attache with the American Embassy. in Havana, Cuba at that time, right? -Yes. Okay. Then you started your spy thing and SO forth and so forth, alright? Um hum. We'll go ahead and jump a Little bit and so forth. There were several meetings that Fidel had in the Hilton with some of the people of the staff. I was present at the meeting, right? Right. And, one of the time that Fidel « was talking to the staff concerned the gambling casinos and American business interests in Cuba, right? Right. Page 240
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: -FS: FS: FS: | FS: Bocld: ‘And it was stated that he was going to run all the racketeers out (of. Out of Cuba. Cuba. All the American businesses were going to go ahead and be nationalized because it was Cuba and the Cuba for the Cubans. Right. And so forth. And then it was suggested about well you know the American government may not like it. You're gonna have all the American business interests put pressure’ on the State Department which would put . pressure on him and that they would be up in arms and they would have the agents, they would send new agents into Cuba because the CIA at that time was very close, closely contacted, at least certain people in the CIA had contact with the 26th of July movement. As a matter of fact that they were exchanging information. with Castro... Uh hum. which enabled him to outwit many. of the other groups so really CIA helped Fidel quite a bit in this power struggle that was going on in Cuba at that time. So Fidel, with the help of CIA... . Yes. got to be the ruler of Cuba. Now... I would, what about, where did Fidel get most of his guns from? Well, you know... To lead the revolution? Right, you know, so forth. That's a story which we won't have to Zo into and so forth because we just (unintelligible) briefly over it. And then there came a period of time. where Fidel in all his popularity and so forth was, now Fidel with you - he made approaches to you, right, and so forth? 32473630. Page 241
HY 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Hmm. He told you he loved you and so forth. -Yes. And he seduced you, right? And, which has been on record. . Mm-Hmm. You know, and you liked him and you actually in liking him like a young girl thought for the future that here's a man that I, you admired, that you started to get an affection for him and so forth, and really you thought of marriage, right? Mm-~- hmm. And in the process of being close with him, being as the man's intelligent, dynamic and so forth, he did > force his attentions on you and naturally he seduced you. You didn’t want to but it happened. Yes. And you had nobody to go to because, hey, you're in” his Cuba, right? I was in his Cuba alright. Right, now also what we were getting in this Senate Intelligence Committee has got is the things that Fidel has stated against the United States government if they tried to interfere with the revolution and so forth when the new election time comes because at that time the President of the United States was Eisenhower and it looked like that the Democrats were going to Docld: 32423630 win the election and he felt that if a new government, which was discussed among the top military people, if the new government came in and if they decided that they didn't like Fidel's policy, which Fidel was saying what he was going to do for Cuba on an international scale, that if the United States government decided to go and turn against him and put pressure on him he would do likewise to the United States government. “And he was going to export his revolution in Latin America. These are the things that you heard... Page 242
HY 50955 _FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Bocld: 32423630 -10- Yeah. A number of times I was present up there for the.. Mm-hmm. in the Hilton with. all the people. Now you left Cuba when? | ae Sometime in September. In September of 1959 you came to the United States, right? Yeah. And when: you came back to the United States you saw me. Yes. And then arrangements were made for you to go back to Cuba and so forth... Yes, yes. And this is what happened. with the attempt and so forth. Right. Now when you went back to Cuba, when did you leave there the second time? towards When exactly / the end of 1959, 1960. 1959? '60 - I'm not sure. I'm no good at dates and all that. I just know I went in and I took that stuff and I went out. Well then was it the early part of '60? Yeah. It had to be the early part of '60 and you came back to Miami, right? Right. _Bage 243
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -11- You came back to Miami and you continued to go ahead and do some- work With Alex. With Alex and myself here in South Florida. And then when did you cease doing some work at that time? Uh, in 19--, end of 1960. End of 1960. When did I tell you to make contact with Petty Humanez at his home. Do you know approximately what time that was? In 1960, 61. The end of 1960, or the early part of '61, was that then? About the time of the Bay of Pigs. Well, '61 was the Bay of Pigs, in April. '61. So it had to be before the Bay of Pigs. Before, before, yes it was. Yeah this is when Petty Humanez was exiled in Miami.. Right. Beach on the island there, right? Yes... | Alright, and you were told by whom to go over to his * home?) You. You were told by me and you went there by yourself or with someone else? Should I name him? Yeah. Alex? Alex York. Alright, Alex | went with you over to Petty Humanez' house, right. They had a gathering there with some Cubans , and so forth and so forth. Do you know who some of the Cubans who were at that gathering? H¥ 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 244
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Big Cubans. Well when you talk about big Cubans can you name some? Top Cubans in exile, Prios, Carlos Prios President, ex-President Carlos Prios. I don't know, there were so many, God. Alright, well that's, that's good enough. Anyway. Alright, that's when you first met Petty Humanez, alright. Yes. What was the idea of me sending you over there to meet Petty Humanez? Information gathering, to find out how he was sponsoring the Cuban exiles. Wasn't he suspected of supplying money and other goodies... Oh, yes. to groups, where at? In Miami and outside of Miami. And down in Texas, right? Yeah. Training camps in Texas? Yes. | Alright, he was feeding money to them also in... :. Yeah. Texas, right? And this is to help overthrow Castro government, right? I would presume, yeah. I guess so. Now did you find out whether or not he was giving them this financial assistance? HY 50955 DBocld:32423630 Page 245
HY 0955 *FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 | _-13- Yeah I saw him give money to some Cubans. I was with him at the time. Now you got very friendly with Petty Humanez, isn't that correct? I would say so. You would say so. As a matter of fact... (unintelligible) As a matter of fact a love affair developed... Yes. 7 _ and so forth and so forth, alright. Yeah. . We won't go into anything else. We'll go ahead and jump past that. Then we lost contact with you, right? Yes. And in losing contact with you we, well we mentioned sometime when they, the United States State Department sent Petty Humanez back to Venezuela, he went to prison, and you mentioned something about the family wanted to break him out and you wanted to see if I could do it and so forth. Alright, so we'll skip that. Anyway, I lost contact with you. When was the last time we lost contact, when was that? "64. 1964 or '63? '63 or '64 approximately, alright? After ‘64. | It was around, approximately 1964. (unintelligible) And you what, came to New York? When the General went to jail. Yeah, you went to South America and then you came back to New York to live and so forth, right? Page 246
HW 450955 FS: FS: FS: © FS; FS: FS: FS: FS: —-14- Yeah. Then you remarried, rather you got married here in New York? Oh some time passed, I waited for the General but then I got married, right. Who did you marry? You're gonna say, you're gonna go ahead and say he worked at the building with you, and... Yeah, I guess I have to. Louis John Yurositz. Alright, now one time you and him did what. at what building and the address? We were both federal informants for the FBI in New York. You worked as an, both of you worked as undercover agents for the FBI in New Yor, right? Me as a double because I had.. You as a double agent. Now when did this start? He was the building manager at 250 East 87th Street in Manhattan. The building is owned by Glenwood Management, called the Newberry. The work started with the case agent in 1969. 1969. Who was the case agent’ s name, and what federal agents, you already told me. You 1 already told me and they got it on record and this. They told.me not to say anything. Well, honey, they got it on record and you're gonna go ahead and send this down there because Senator Baker knows who your case agent is, knows the CIA agent that you were in touch with. — ‘You F know I keep: remembering don't embarass the Bureau and. Honey , you're not embarassing the Bureau. What you're doing is giving this information to Senator Baker's ' Committee to turn over to the Justice Department in Docld: 32423630 ‘order for them to go ahead and say, hey - you worked as an agent for them, also as a double agent, you need Page 247
HW 50955 FS: ~15- protection for you and your kid, and if you don't go ahead and tell them the name of these here people how you gonna do it? Mmm. You know we get back to the same thing again. Yeah, you're looking for protection. So far the people you've worked with, so.far this man Pucci who you saved his life, and saved another. undercover agent's life whose working with the FBI. These people are powerful people yet they have done nothing with the problem that you have had right now with you, three times there's been an attempt on your life, isn't that correct? One time they almost threw you out of an 18 story building. Another time you got pistol- whipped. You did all this crap for these people FS: DoclId: 32423630 here yet they will do nothing to go ahead at the present time, and this is on record in their own files and so forth, yet you cannot move them to give you or your children any. protection. This piece of tape is going to go right to Senator Baker's office, it'll go to Howard Liebengood for him to listen to, to evaluate it and turn this tape over to the proper authorities which will be the Justice Department. You can call Howard Liebengood. to see if he has received those codes from the Albanian Embassy from me. You can call him and find out, and also you can call him at the same time and let him know if a tape has been turned over to him. As a matter of fact when I get there Friday and leave this in his office I will instruct his people in the office to get a hold of you, because I'm gonna leave your phone number with Senator's Baker's people, with Senator Baker is on, has a Committee on Intelligence... -Mm-hmm. He's got the committee. It's a new Committee that has been. formed on intelligence. See, now I am turning this information over to the proper authorities. See. And — this information is not going to go to any newspaper _ or anybody... . a Okay, okay Frank. I have your word. It's just that I got a hang-up, you know I guess, with them working on practically all my adult life. Page 246
Hiv 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -16- Honey, I don't want to know everything you did in 6 years. I don't want to know everything you did because you can't. They were like a family, they were like a family at one time. Now when I need help they don't come through and they say it costs too much. It cost me. a lot of nights in the garbage looking for Albanian stuff, cost me a lot of worry, cost me a lot of fear, threats. Alright so this is why... (Unintelligible) - I want some stuff on this thing because if you make a story up then how are you gonna prove, for instance, you gonna go ahead. No I'm not making anything up. I wouldn't lie about it. No, no, honey, I'm just saying. If you're gonna go ahead and say, hey - I broke into 33, in an apartment building with 33 Soviet families, who. did you work for -- well’I worked for the FBI. They call the FBI, the FBI said we know nothing about it. Then you are a liar. No way am I going to be a liar. I'm just saying, they're going to say how we gonna protect this girl when. she's lying to us because the FBI says no.. But if you name names. and say I worked with this man here, it's got my file, I worked over a six year period. God damn it - that, that Justice Department will say, hey baby we want to see you and we want to see your. files on this girl. And baby they got. to go and come up with it. And if they don't come up with it they're in’trouble. They're in trouble. Now, how could they hide something when they are working for the same people who are their bosses, who are their bosses? They can tell you to go jump in a lake over here. But Washington, D. C. says - hey, I want. to see. something here. Why haven't you given ~ this people protection if all. this is true. But if. they don't know, honey, how the hell are they gonna do anything? Docld:32423630 Page 249
FS: FS; ML: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -17-: I guess if something happens. somebody's gonna know, you know. Somebody has to know. Now at the beginning you and your husband, your husband was manager... was. the building manager of this building. And he... Is he still building manager of that building? Yes, but the way this going... Well, honey forget about it right at the present time because we're getting at the building and we're... Yes, yes.. He still manages the building. Alright, now, how long has he been manager of this building? We raised this building, we In other words when was the first years... We were the very first tenants in this building. We ' moved in there before anybody moved in there. We were the first tenants. The first person to move in was the first Secretary to the Soviet Mission. What was his name? Mr. Vittikofe£. And who. was Mr. Vittikoff? He was the first Secretary to Malek, the Soviet Ambassador to. the United Nations. . Would you say a cesspool of spies. which this cesspool of spies which is the Soviet (end of side 1) HW 30955 Docld: 32423630 Page 2740
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: -18- ..where you and your husband worked where he was Manager, you were the first people to live in that place? 250 East 87th Street, the Newberry, owned by Glenwood Management, which are crooked,. and that's on the corner of 2nd Avenue, it's called the Newberry. Okay, now, who started to move in there? Our very first tenant was Mr. Ovinikoff, he was the First Secretary to Ambassador. Malek at the United Nations. (unintelligible) Alright, go ahead, keep talking into there. And he's a little guy. He seemed like normal people, but I never really.. ae Well how many people eventually moved in there besides this man? FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630. Oh well the first one was Mr. Ovinikoff, the second one I named The Stalker, the third one - I have nick- names.. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now. The second one who moved in there you called, you nick- named the The Stalker. The Stalker. What was his real name? Because he, he was, he checked on the Russians. The Russians checked on the Russians. And if a woman, Soviet wife, got out of hand or went shopping by her- self or did something out of the way she got. pulled back and she was under house arrest. Alright, what was his name? Mr. Artimenko, Artimenko. I kept, then I... Who was the third one you gave a nickname to? I had nicknames for all of them. Page 251
“ -19- FS: Yeah, but ML: . Moonface, The Stalker... FS: Yeah. _ ML: The Shadow. It was my .own little thing of remembering until I memorized. We started out with the tenants' list. FS: Alright, how many people were on the tenants' list? ML: We had, the building consisted of 300 units, which : 300 apartments, my husband had access to files. Each Soviet file read the same -- Permanent Mission of the Union. of Soviet Socialist Republic resident, and I got interested. Then one day an agent came at 9 o ‘clock in the morning, and my husband had been previously working with Treasury and other agencies, including this agent which I'll name, that's Al Chestone. FS: His first name was what? ML: ' Albert, Albert Chestone. FS: What agency was he with? ML: . The FBI. “FS: Special Agent, FBI? ML: . Yes, counterintelligence. FS: Sector of the FBI ML: Yes, political. And, my husband had known him previously working with the Polaris missile, Polaris missile thing. This was before I met my husband or married him. He did something with the Polaris ‘ missile thing. And my husband was paid by this same _ agent. Anyway, we, he came daily and we went over the -tenants' list and we sort of dissected everybody in the building. FS: Alright now, were you recruited by this agent? ML: Yes, he said are you willing to work and I said, well, why not? He said it doesn't consist of much, a few burglaries (laughter).. FS: ' In other words this agent. ML: Information gather, get close to them, get friendly with | WW 50955 Docld: 32473630 Page 252
FS: FS: FS: FS; FS: FS: FS: -20- them, and you take the woman's viewpoint, standpoint, and my husband. And they. wanted you to do some burglaries, right? Well, I, yes. Alright now, these burglaries, did they consist of you and your husband doing the burglaries or you by yourself? Well my husband had the master keys. Right, alright. And... Well when you did these burglaries... We all did them together. They're were about 5, 6, 7 cars. One stationed in front of the Soviet Mission. Suppose, say like they were interested in one Soviet who they lost track of, who was supposed to be in Washington, D. C., and then they found him all of a sudden in our building because they had surveillance across the street. That's the first thing - they set up surveillance, a camera, high-power camera across the street. That we were pointed out to. That - everybody who went in and out of the building was photographed. Including yourself and your husband? Oh. yeah,me especially in the morning taking my son to ' school and everything.. Right. But, and... . Alright, now, getting back to the entries that you made into the apartments. Once you found out that the people were not in the apartments -- how did you find out they weren't in the apartments? Well, they would... ‘HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 253
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: ML: FS: FS: FS: -21- Would you knock on the door or something? No. You saw them leave? No, no. They were assigned, first of all we were told that we wanted, they wanted to hit the apartment, the Bureau, and. I would listen and my husband looked at me and I looked at him but it was still in the best interests of the country, and this was a very, very top KGB agent, a Soviet General, blah, blah, blah, he was interested... Do you know the man's name? —Yes~ This General? Yes. What was his name? Oleg Likichev. | What's his name? Oleg Likichev. Likichev. He's a top... KGB spy. | Alright, and he lived in the building? Yes, with his wife and 5 year old son. Right. | On the 10th. floor. Alright, now you were advising them when they left the building. Naturally they had surveillance out- side, they would know when he left... Well first we were told to get close to them, maybe friendly... WW 50955 Docld:32429630 Page 254
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630- ~22= Friendly. Very friendly. We exchanged gifts and we went to. dinner, and we were invited to the U.N., and we exchanged. . In other words you were being guided into doing certain things.. No. This one particular FBI agent. This one particular agent told us daily what to do..- Alright now did he give you a code name or a code, any particular code? My name, Mariuch. Mariuch was the name he gave, that he gave you, right? Mariuch. | | Alright, it sounds Italian. Mariuch is Italian. Well he... Maria. He is Italian, too. ‘The agent? Yes. Alright, now, when, did you ever make an | entry into this top KGB agent's apartment? This one particular, there were several. This wasn't the only one. Well, let's talk, let's talk about, the, general. Oleg was, in other words my husband and I discussed it and I said, "Louis, you know,' Page 255
HY 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS : FS: ~23~ , It could be very dangerous. Yeah, yeah, I said... You could get caught, you could be killed. I said suppose, you know, we're working in the precinct on a local level - that's breaking and entering, right? And my husband and I dis, you know we discussed it. Now, Uncle Al - as we started to call this. FBI agent? FBI agent, said "Look, he's a very bad person, we lost him and we found him and he's in the building and we want to get in the apartment. We feel he has, for national security reasons, we want to enter that apartment. Louis, will you cooperate?" You know? And my husband said, “Alright”. Did he said he had to discuss it with you? They discussed it in front of me. I mean did your husband say he had, he would discuss it with you about. FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 324239630. No, no, but he. did, but he didn't ask me because I asked my husband later, I said, "Louis, if you refuse to do what Al tells us to do, me as a lookout and Louis opening the doors for them" Louis said, Louis is my husband, said "What do you want me to do, get subpoenaed? They' Il oybpoena me if I don't do it. So I'll go along with it. So it, it was agreed... It was agreed that he would do it. Alright, now what did your husband do. ‘Did he open the door for the agents? Yes he did. Did he go in, for what, one agent, two agents? Two agents. Two agents. Was Uncle Al one of those agents? Page 256
HY 09545. FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: - FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 -24- No he was not. Do you know the name of the two agents that made the entry? No I do not. Do not. They came on the specific morning when they had Oleg... You were by Uncle Al that these two agents were coming? Yes. Alright, on a specific morning? Yes. Alright, and... They came as lumberjacks, one as a refrigeration repairman. Right. Refrigerator, refrigeration-air conditioning repairman. Alright, now you and your husband with these two agents went up.to the 10th floor, right? You were stationed where you. were going to be the lookout? In the... Hallway? Service entrance. In the service entrance. Your husband had the pass keys? , Yes. He opened the door? Yes, Page 257
Hiv 50955 FS: FS: FS: ML: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: ~25- The two agents went in? Yes. Did your husband go in? He stood at the door. He stood at the door? He stood at the door. That is in case they'd come back he'd... Right. The fact that he is the manager of the building standing there with two repairman. But that he was assured, he was assured, right. That these two men were repairmen? That, that just in case something went. wrong with the 5 cars assigned to this job that one car would radio that Oleg Likichev was leaving the Mission at this moment, he is getting into his car, he is on the way -up 2nd Avenue to his residence. Right, and they... You've got approximately 7 to 8 minutes... Minutes to do what you gott do and get the hell out. Do, and get out. Okay. So, my husband stood in the door and I was in the . staircase and they went in with a,:a case that looks like a television repair case which had high power cameras. Right. And they, my husband was always annoyed because they were sloppy. (Laughter) Docld:32423630 Page 258
HW 50955 FS: -26- The Soviets are very trained, they would leave a cigarette on an ashtray. If you knocked it over they know immediately someone was in. the apartment. Now, when the agents, before your husband opened the door with the pass key, did the agents look the door ' over to see if there was any powder marks, tapes, FS: FS: FS: FS: hairs, or anything, or something leaning against the door to signify that possibly when the Cuban general, this, not Cuban general, this Russian general, who is a top KGB agent... fo Yes. “wanted to see if somebody made an entry they would leave something on the door. Yes. They inspected the door, right? And they didn't find anything? Right. Right. So they opened the door. In other words, what- ever they touched. But they made -a mistake inside on one break-in and that. Alri ht, now, no let's not jump. We're, you were on g jump y 3 _ this one particular thing. FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 Alright. These people did go in, they did what they had to do with the cameras and so forth, evidently these were hidden... Yeah. cameras that they installed some place in there, right? No, it was microfilm. | Well there were cameras... In the flour can... Page 259
FS: ML: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: ML: FS: FS: FS: FS: -27- Oh, you mean what the agents brought in? What the two agents brought in. Yes. Yeah, what did they bring in with them, what , in the general’ Ss. ’ Cameras. They -brought cameras... Mm-hmm. which were installed. Yeah. | What else did they bring in? I don't know. They... Any listening devices, bugging devices? I would say so. I think... You don't know for sure, though? I'm not sure, my husband... ‘No, but you do know about the cameras? Yes. Alright, but there is a possibility they brought bugging devices because it's logical they would bring bugging devices. I think sometimes, plenty of times they wanted to plant a bug. , Sure. Especially in the television, the cable TV, the.. Well they install that through the walls and so forth. HW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 260
FS; FS: FS: FS: FS: _FS: FS: FS: FS: ' FS; FS: -28- No, in the, they’ d hook it up to the master antenna for the cable TV. Oh, for the cable TV. Well, yeah, alright. That way they thought they could tune in to them transmitting. Yeah. Alright, now, how long did they stay in, to the General's apartment? In the apartment, approximately 10-15-20 minutes. Then they left, your husband closed the door, did he wipe his fingerprints off the door? Do you know? No, but my husband would usually put the edge of the rug back the way he found it. Right, in other, everything... It was turned over... had to be placed back the same way it was. And he would watch them and they were rough. Well, we'll forget about that part. We're not interested in. This worried my husband because this would... Yeah, it would make.. | They knew... Make them know there was an entry. Right. Okay, now, they did that, they left. Did, did, “did the © agents ever go back into that apartment again? No, one time. Just one time and they never went back into that., “No... that particular apartment. HW 50955 Doold:32493630. Page 261
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Fs: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 ~29-. they were satisfied. They were satisfied so evidently everything worked out alright. . Even though.. . Mm-hmm. your husband was on edge about the way the agents were... ' Oh yeah. | Okay? Alright, so we'll forget that part. Now how about other entries. We'll get one at a time. The other entry that's outstanding is Soviet.. Yeah, go ahead, keep talking. Very Americanized Soviet, handsome, married with a 10 year old daughter. I forget his name. I have them all at home. . And, I nicknamed him "The Tennis Player" because he use to do a lot of jogging and play tennis every morning to make contacts with Americans, and try to recruit, I guess, gather information at the same time.. .He spoke English without an. (unintelligible) Fluently, without an accent, down. to curses and slang and everything else. His wife. You got friendly with him also? No, he even suggested to take my husband to a massage parlor and he was way out, too much way out. In other words, play with girls? I had his, no, I was, well he was one of those. He liked to play? ‘Yeah. He was a playboy. | He was a playboy. That's, they use Which is very, yeah, Page 262
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -30- They use, they used, he was also a top KGB, and his apartment, they did his apartment, too. What did they do? They broke in, they Well, now wait a minute. . used my husband to break in. This a job I wasn't on but. Well, that not breaking in now. It's illegal entry... Entry. Right. In other words they used your husband and you also as a stakeout again? Yeah. On that particular one. Mm-hmm. . , \ He opened the door again. What floor did he have his apartment? © FS: FS: FS: Doocld: 32423630 I don't recall that. I'd have to get the tenants' list. Alright, it makes no difference. Alright, don't worry about that. But they made entry into his apartment. Yes. What did they do in his apartment? - I guess they microfilmed and. planted a device. Anyway, either way, whatever they did they did... With the corpor, cooperation of your husband? Cooperation of my husband... And yourself. Page 263
FS: ML: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -31- And they did it sloppy because this. particular Soviet, ‘the tennis player, made a formal complaint to the 23rd Precinct, PIU investigation unit, where I was_ working. When you say PIU, what's PIU? Prisoner Investigation Unit. Prisoner or Police? Prisoner Investigation Unit. Was that a police unit? “That's the 23rd precinct. ‘Police. Right police... Alright. department. I was working up there. Alright. | Now I answered. the phones. Oh, hm=tmm , . F ‘You understand? Yeah. And this. tennis player called up and demanded a detective. I was working up there and the detectives were hot. on a homicide and I answered the phone and here it was the tennis player calling to make a formal complaint of breaking and entering his apartment. I had him on the phone. And he didn't know it was you. And I died, I tried to disguise. my voice and he kept on talking and talking and talking and I couldn't disguise my voice. I was afraid he would know that I, . it was me. I took the complaint in other words. HW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 264
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 ~32- Right. And I wrote up the 61. Go ahead. Now let me ask you this here. The 61 - complaint report. | Alright, let me ask you this here. You say you were working for this police department in this precinct. What was your job with them? Auxiliary volunteer. Photos, translations, rape cases, interrogation. And at that time you were answering phone calls that were coming in? And typing, and doing other things but I don't really want to get those guys involved because they... No, I just wanted, wanted them to know what you were doing in the police department. I was an auxiliary sergeant. Answering the phones. Okay. Auxiliary is a volunteer police. Right, good enough. Now what other entries did you make with them. That's two -- that you specified. Two. The rest I didn't want to go along: with because I was a little afraid so my.. Things were getting a little hot for you. Yes, because we had too many Russians, we had the Albanians, we had the Red Chinese. All living. in that building? All living in the same building. There was, it was comical. The Albanians wouldn't talk to the Russians, the Russians ignored the Albanians, the Red Chinese went down the service entrance and to avoid the Russians and the Al-, it was just,the Secret Service in the garage and in the front door. The narcotics Page 265
HW 50955 | FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS : FS: ~33- peddlers coming out of the laundry room. It was, it was a merry~go-round. In other words, We had, in one day about four different agencies watching people. In and out of the building. And we didn't know if we were coming or going. Yeah. | We lived on the second floor. We had a view of the street and we would signal to the, across the street surveillance apartment, apartment, you know. We'd see the cars pull up and the cars leave. Alright, now... My husband did most of, he'd been doing it. He'd been doing most of the end of the... Yes, because I felt I didn't want to get caught. rT just didn't want to get caught because it was a heck of a chance because more than one Soviet family lived on one floor. and if anyone of them walked out when ny husband was opening the door to let those guys in my husband would have been dead. Alright, not only that I understand. that you were getting very familiar with many of the families of... I was too friendly... these people. with the families. Right, so you didn't want to go ahead and They trusted me alone in their apartments. We had many discussions together, we exchanged medicine, I gave them medicine for one child-who... DocTd: 32423630 Page 2766
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: ML: FS: FS: FS: FS: -34- At the same time you tried to get as- much information out of them as you can being on that friendly basis. I was being on a very social... | Right. natural basis. Right. And I became friendly with them. How long, how long... We even were paid money to throw a few parties. You were paid money... For the Soviets. . You were given money by the... By the Justice Department. Yeah, To throw a few parties. So the agents could make surveillance. . So they could make surveillance. And contact? And contact, and try to get them, loosen up, to loosen up... Well, booze can loosen a lot of people's mouths. Well it was mostly their vodka anyway they gave us. But, yeah.they suggested the, using agents as waiters and bartenders and all that. And I said that wouldn't go. Soviet people are very trained. They smell any- thing like that. And I was very open with them. They'd leave from the countries and I would be the first to know. They would bring back. gifts. They babysat my children, I babysat their children. We exchanged HY 50955 Docld:324273630 Page 267
HY 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 ~35- medicine and I just didn't want anything to go wrong. But your husband.continued. to work with the agency, right? - Yes. We, we took, we ID'd photos. We watched for cars. We watched their movement. It was day and night. You did a lot of surveillance work on these people but you yourself, personally, wanted to try to keep out of the... © Yeah. operation as far as... Break... entering into the apartments, right? Yes. How long did this last?. Over a period of how long? 1969 to 1976. “All these years? Yes. That's doing surveillance on these people. Yeah. We were... How about the Albanians now, tell me about the code. The Albanians, the Albanians we got very friendly with a Mr. Koyani, Ambassador to the Mission, the U.N., and the Albanians are not as elite as the Russians are. ‘The Russians dry clean their own clothes, burn their own garbage, have no photos, personal things in the apartment. The Albanians are more, they allow their children to watch television. The Soviets don't. We convinced the Albanians who had a mission on their mission, which they blocked a complete fire exit was on the 21st floor of the Newberry. They lived in the apartments on the 20th floor. and the 22nd floor. And Page 268
FS: FS: FS: =36- they had about 30, 30 families who-resided there and their mission was there. And we became very friendly with them because of one incident, especially ny husband, took, went to see his mother and left me in ‘charge of the building. That’ same day they had a so- called demonstration where the demonstrators had a 25-minute picketing right to picket. .The demonstra- tion turned into a bloody riot where they burned flags and everything and the Albanians came down. They all are armed. They're all armed, and they agitated the rioters out on the street. And I was alone with only my basic police training and my wits, really, anda panicking doorman and my kids. I was just alone. I, -.the first thing I looked out the window when I heard the shooting I called the Bureau and I said, "Get me Al Chestone fast."' I said I don't have Louis here. I said I need help. I have a demonstration. I don't know what to do. And there were about 500 people throwing bricks, bottles, everything through the plate glass windows. Burning American flags and Albanian flags because of something that happened in Albania. Those that defected here. started this demonstration. So. then I, things got out of hand, the doorman was hurt with a brick. I saw blood, and the Albanian Ambassador and five. top officials agitated these people from inside the lobby with fists. Very unprofessional-like. Yeah. So I physically pulled them by their coats and told them, "Get upstairs, get upstairs and get yourself back into the mission", because tenants were walking through the lobby and we were going to get hurt by . flying glass and everything else. And I had no help. The police were outside of the line... Marita, what we're going into details is something that is a story. Oh, alright. So we'll go ahead and just bypass that. Anyway, the Albanians Al was interested into, and especially because they were admitting the Red Chinese into the United Nations, which they did. It was that speech, which I have the original copy of. Ambassador Rocco Nocco - sounds crazy, but that's his name, Rocco HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 269
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: ML: FS; -37- Nocco, and they were, they were sloppier, and the agent Al Chestone told me convince them, you know, case ‘em, keep going up and down the steps, what time they throw their garbage out. Garbage was the most valuable source of information for the Bureau, and that was... Garbage and trash. Trash. Chicken bones, codes, diapers, whatever, you know, and that was my job because I had the patience. Now the FBI supplied me with bandaids and gloves, flashlights, batteries and the whole thing, because I convinced the Albanians that the compacter, which was the disposal system in. the building from 31 floors down -- in other words when they threw their garbage out that it would come out in brick form, block form, brick crushed, which in fact was not true. But: they believed it? They believed it. They trusted us. Louis and I were the only ones allowed in the mission. We were the only ones. Now this mission is that building you were talking about. That's still there. ‘Still there. Very much there. That's the code that you have. Right. So, I started, made it a every two hour routine to go . after midnight when they put their garbage out in the Docld: 32423630 hall, pick up the bags. Take them down to the service entrance and take the bags at home, take ‘em home. And go through the orange peels and chicken bones and gather torn up letters, this was before they got smart and bought a shredder (unintelligible). . And I.would turn this garbage letter, in other words, I would past it together and give it to the Bureau and some . of these letters turned out to be very valuable. Among them was one code, now... Page 270
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -38- I would assume that these letters that were in code they would be classified material. Otherwise it wouldn't be in. code. Very valuable, yes. The... And this was turned over to who? To Al Chestone. The first code I got, I just got on a hunch lucky. Because it was just at. the time when the Red Chinese entered the United States, first came here. Mr. Huang Yua, and I met them. We met them first before anybody met them, Louis and I. And that same night the code came down at 3:00 in ‘the morning and I just had a hunch and I got up and I said, "Louis I can't sleep, I'm going down and do some work. Give me the keys to the compacter room." So I went downstairs and I waited and sure enough around 3:30 these bags started to come down from the 2lst floor. 3:30 in the morning? 3:30 in the morning because Al said watch them closely, because of the Red Chinese. And I shut the machine off and I got these, I got this code, I caught it in other words, but it... This is the code you turned over to me? This is the first code, the very first code, at the risk of having my hands chopped off because if I didn't shut that machine off in time I could have been hurt. But I.got it. The first code was very valuable. It was sent to Washington. (End of tape - side 2). ...these bags of stuff and if you hadn't have turned off the machine you would have got your hand either chopped up or cut off, and so forth. What did, were you saying about Al, Uncle Al? Uncle Al slept and I did the work, and by the time I got upstairs and took the orange peels and everything out of the garbage and separated the letters and © every tiny little piece with tweezers and everything, WW 50955 Doclad:32429630 Page 271
HW 50955 FS: ~39- put it all in a box, right down to every piece. I ruined my rugs and everything. And Uncle Al would come at 8:30, 9:00 in the morning and I would still be up separating the garbage and he'd be.all fresh and ready for work and I had just. come back from the garbage room. And. You stayed awake all night? Yeah, with the tweezers and I use.to run out of skotch tape which was frustrating cause I couldn't stick these letters togethers without skotch tape, so he brought me a big box of skotch tape which was very kind of him. Then I would give it to him and he'd, he'd have coffee, tea and toast or whatever. And I'd say, "Now I want to go to sleep."' And he'd FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 say, "No, no, no, wait a minute. Mr. So-and-so, or Berzofsky, we want to get a line on Mr. Berzofsky. Who was Mr. Berzofsky? - Berzofsky, the Second Secretary to the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republic. What was his first name, do you know? Mmmm, I forgot... That's alright, it don't matter. I forgot really. But we were very close to him. His wife was a surgeon in the Soviet mission and she was, ‘she's, she's adorable. She's nice, she's sweet and she has a lovely daughter, Irene, who turned out to have liver cancer. She was a little girl when I first » met her, like my daughter. My daugher played with her, they took piano lessons together, exchanged books, and ‘the little girl; at sixteen, Irene was sent back to the Soviet Union with liver cancer. I got very close to the mother, the mother was heartbroken, the father was heartbroken. I guess like any mother and father when their only child turns out to have liver cancer. She's diagnosed as such in the Soviet Union and they asked me to get medicine, pain killers for Irene. I do so and pass along to them empirin and codine #4, which is a pain. killer which they smuggled over to Page 272
HW 50955 FS: FS : FS: FS: FS: Bocld: -40- their daughter on — with the permission of the FBI. We exchanged jewelry, clothes, and everything else. We were just one mother to another mother. Their little girl in trouble, mine not in trouble and it was little things like that that I would get very involved with. I don't know. Morita let me ask you this here, did the agents ever | tell you to BO out with any of the diplomats in the mission? Well, now.we have to go back to Oleg, Oleg Likichev. | And who is he again? He was the KGB spy that they lost and. thought he, they thought he was still residing in Washington, the out- side of Washington, D. C., in Virginia. He was supposed to have last been seen in Virginia somewhere and all of a sudden they picked him up in our building, . as being in our building. They. lost him and they were | furious, the Bureau, and they wanted us very close to him. And he, we had-a‘lot of evenings together we spent with him, dinners, and he came to us, In other words he asked you to go out, did he ask (unintelligible) Well, Oleg, Oleg, let's just say, I don't know if it was a game they were playing or if they were doubles or what. They talked a-lot about the State of Washington, residing in the State of Washington. They also. knew I had diamonds and he asked me, unintelligible) "Can you get me diamonds?" 32423630 What did he call you? Ilonka Marischa, Ilona Marita. Oh, that's in Russian? Yes. And we always exchanged Russian words and I know a few, enough to get by on. All of a sudden, you know, he was interested in diamonds. He had a fascination for diamonds. His wife, she was kind of sweet on my husband he was kind of sweet on me and I kept telling Uncle Al this thing is going to get out of hand. I said all of a sudden he wants Page 273
-41- diamonds, and Al, what do I do. Go ahead, talk to him about diamonds. So I said Oleg, what do you mean by diamonds? He said uncut stones for cash. I am a Soviet official, I cannot go into a jewelry store like you and buy them. -I want diamonds. I'm willing to pay a hundred thousand dollars for them. I said,:I said tell me why, Oleg. And he said, "Money, why does anybody want diamonds." I said it's a good enough reason. So I said, "Hey, Louis, what can we do for Oleg about his diamonds?" And Louis said we'll figure something out. And then Oleg said, this was at a dinner party up in their house. Hot diamonds, he wanted hot, uncut, raw diamonds. So he was serious, he was dead serious. He said he would buy them for cash. FS: .. How serious was he? Did you ever get any for him? ~ ML: Well it got this far. We told Uncle Al the next morning. I said, "Uncle Al, I got a surprise for you. You're gonna have to come up with some hot diamonds. A hundred thousand dollars worth because I promised Oleg that I would get them for him since he can't buy them. Oleg wants diamonds.” And I said if you can put two and two together maybe this guy will defect because he's talking. about the State of Washington. I said but you have to be careful, I have to be careful, no? So Al said I'll get you the diamonds. You tell him to get the cash ready. So Uncle Al went to an underworld source and got the diamonds. Uncle Al made a boo-boo and Oleg, the day of the exchange I was supposed to make the sale in the.apartment, Oleg was at a sports meeting in Washington,D.C. Uncle Al said, "I've got to give these diamonds back to the underworld or give them the cash." I said, "Listen, I told you tomorrow, not today, Al. Tomorrow, because. Oleg told us he's going to this soccer meeting in Washington, D.C. _ Alright whatever the kind of meeting it is. He is in Washington, D. C." "Oh is he?" I said, "Yes, he is."" Right. Anyway, Uncle Al started to panick because he was in my house with a hundred thousand dollars worth of uncut, hot diamonds. . FS: By himself? ML: By himself, and I was supposed to.get the cash from - Oleg. Oleg said on a Thursday and Uncle Al came on WW $0955 Boacld:3274273630 Page 274
-42- a Wednesday and the whole thing... . FS: So what happened? ML: fell through. Al said he had to give them back to the underworlds, to his source. So he took them back and then Oleg, you know, I had to talk my . way out of it. It was just one of the flubs. But anyway after I left my husband Oleg kept asking for me, kept coming directly to the apartment and say- ing, “Louis, I don't believe you two split, you two go, she left.. I don't believe it." And my. husband said "yes, she did leave. It's her own problems, Oleg, you know, forget about it." And he said, "No, it's not possible. You must stay together. You must stay. together.'' Anyway, he kept coming, about four times and asking my husband, until. my husband. made a joke of it and said Oleg wants to see you. I mean he's made it damn plain that he wants to see you. In other words if you're . finished I'll take over. Where is she living? My husband tells him I'm living on 88th Street. Now I talked to my husband and I said what did you do that for? Tell him I'm living on.88th Street? You know, because I know he wants to go out with me. You can feel it, I can feel it, the, you know? So I call up,Uncle Al meantime is transferred to Newark, I get another case agent. Louis gets a case agent for the building and he works alone, without me. The other agent is John Kotter. FS: With the FBI? ML: FBI, 69th Street. I call up John Kotter. I said, "John, I hear your taking. Al's place", and I meet him. Drop things, start things, drop things, different assignments, then we get to Oleg. I said look, Oleg is bothering Louis. He wants to go out with me. And John Kotter says, "Beautiful, that is a beautiful setup. Let's call him up." TI said, "Hey, wait.a minute. Either do this sophisticated, alright? . First I'll send him a Christmas card and sign it Ilonka Marischa, you know? I'1l1 put my phone number on the bottom, something you know? Or I'll happen to be/there when he's going into the building, or I'll bump into him." I said you don't just call him.up. You know that's going to be like a setup. because I've/been avoiding him. So, anyway, he tells, he outlines the whole thing.. I said what have you got: planned, John. And he says, "Do you ges tt he ee) FS: That's the idea. HW 50955 Docld:32423630— Page 275
HW 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 4h And I'm in the middle. So, anyway; I go, I go to the mission with my daughter, who was at the time 12 years old. My daughter, I guess, is a little use to my life. She's use to FBI all her life. She knows not to talk. She knows whether we look at her when to say something. I guess she's the closest thing to me now. She goes along. She's very cool and we both walked into the mission on the pretense that she had to do a project for school on the Soviet Union. She needed material. Now as soon as we walked into‘the mission everybody there I know because they reside in the building. .- And they all say, "Ilonka Marischa blah, blah, blah, blah." And I'm very friendly with them all. They all love my daughter. But we're there for other reasons. We're there to go to see Oleg. We gather, we gather the material, meanwhile I'm aware that every picture has an eye or every poster has a mirror or camera, you know? But my daugher's very cool and we're left alone in the room where the Soviet material is displayed. But I know we're being watched. She knows it too and she doesn't, she says, "Mommy, look, this is beautiful, beautiful.'"' You know? Then I ask for Oleg to this very, very tough Soviet woman that said "What you want?", you know. I said "Oleg Likichev, please. I'd like to speak to him." And she called and he is still in the United Nations, he asks you to wait. I refused a wire or anything like that, but... What wire are you talking about? A wire on me. Oh. | Because... That the agents (unintelligible) Yes, because Oleg I know likes me and if he sees me he would grab me and hug me and that's the Russian way... Yeah. And he'll feel that and I'm dead. | Right. _ | Right in the mission. That's not my proper there. Right. Page 276
HY 50955 FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 -45- And I wouldn't risk it with my daughter. So, anyway, we waited. We were allowed the run of the place. We knew everyone there and... Like you say, eyes were watching you. Oh definitely, definitely, because that's how they test you when you walk in there. And you just don't get in there and have the run of the place, you're. not left alone. But I know you're being watched. Sure. Anyway, there was this, it was, it was a legitimate excuse that Oleg was tied up in the United Nations because it was in the paper the next day, that it was some security council meeting. And I said "Please give this note to Mr. Likichev. Tell him thank you. very much for the material. And best’ wishes to his wife, blah, blah, blah," and we left. Funny thing is the cop outside almost arrested us, a uniformed police officer. For what reason? » He gave us a dirty look and made a very slurring, nasty remark when I left. But I hate to knock the police department because they're helping me now. But, I guess, he didn't know, you know? Yeah, he thought you were Russians. He thought I was a Russian. Or a Russian sympathizer. Right, especially going in with a child and I looked very... Yeah. American. Anyway, I got home and John Kotter was waiting in front of my door. I remember it was raining. He was reading. And I said, he said "Are you going to meet Oleg?" I said, "Now how the hell can I make a date with Oleg with my daughter?" Yeah. Page 277.
HW 50955 FS: -46- I said Oleg's in the United Nations. Why don't you tell me these things before that they're delayed at a security council meeting, you know, instead of me letting, letting me sit there. You know these are . all the little things that use to annoy me... Yeah. that they have to screen things first before, you know - check things out, don't have to make a blunder like that. Anyway, I said I left Oleg a note. I said now you go home and I'm going to take it easy and they, we tried, and I said, "You know, John, . you're just going to get me so involved with Oleg. I'm not going to end up in bed in a motel room upstate somewhere with Oleg so you can come in and take photographs. That's not my stick." I said I'll gather garbage, get license plates, tape, do everything else, but, I'll even take the mail, like I've been doing, but I'm not going to be caught in bed. I said that's too big a pawn for me and I'm not getting anything for it right now. They allowed me to take mail, steam it, photograph it and put it back. Some of that mail is now missing, which belongs to the Soviet people, which this perpetrator, perpetrator has and wants to blackmail me with and I _ asked the FBI to please help me with that. FS: FS: FS: Docld: 32423630 Who's the perpetrator? The perpetrator is Guiseppi Faisiano, aka Pionne, aka David Ring, who broke into my apartment and stole this tape with Oleg Likichev, these love conversations, the mail, and part of the Albanian code. He has those in his possession. He threatens my life with it. He threatens blackmail with me. He assaulted me. He pistol-whipped me and I asked the Bureau for help. Did he try to throw you out the 18 story build-, window? Yes. He did what? Yes, he tried to push me out the window. 18 stories? Yes, and I told him stay away, get back, because if anything happens to me there's letters with the . Justice Department naming everything I know about you, o~ Page 278
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: ~47- and he stopped cold. He threatened to shoot my daughter in the back. He's threatening her right now with disgrace because she is the daughter of the, of a well-known man. Right now my main concern is the, these letters and the code and the tape and possibly other things, are in the hands of this Guiseppi Faisiano, and he wants money from me and he's probably right now at the building. He is casing the Soviets and he's going to try to go to the same people that he has on the letters to tell them that I was an informant for the FBI for revenge, for having him arrested on’the assault charge with a gun. He also wants money. He wants to disgrace the FBI. He's blackmailing right now my husband, my ex- husband, for the master keys of the Newberry. My husband is calling me for help and I don't know what to do. I asked Frank to help me. I gave him the code because everybody refused. I was afraid to have any-, anywhere. I guess Frank helped me before in Cuba and I don't, I worked, he worked for me and I worked for him and I don't. know where to go because, the only ones that are helping me now are the local police - in their lunch hours or when I'm too afraid to leave the house they buy me milk and fruit for the kids. And they'll take the children home when I get a threat on the phone or a box in the mailbox or get my back door shot at. I take my children and I put them in the 23rd precinct. They even, off duty... The off-duty police, police officers take my children home... And they spend time at the house? And they spend time at the house in their free time when they should be home with their families. Well you have saved the life of two people, right? I would think so. _ Well, you have. . Yes. When, one of the, who are the two people you saved their lives? HW 30955 Docld:324235630 Page 279
FS: | FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: ~48- -- A federal narcotics informant. Undercover agent, right? Undercover agent Pino Cantanya, and Assistant Federal District Attorney Thomas A. Puccio from Brooklyn. And you saved their lives because a contract was being put out on them? Yes because I overheard and everything I said checked out. And even though you have saved their lives. I asked them please help me with this man, he has Soviet documents, he's hurt me, he's hurt my children, he almost shot my daughter.. He, I asked them please help me because I gave you information for nothing and they said they promised to do something on this individual immigration-wise. So far he has threatened everybody around me. My physicians, my mother, my ex-husband, my. children, my neighbors, my super. He's an illegal immigrant? He is. I would say he's an illegal alien. What's his full name, his real name? His arrest name, that he was arrested under was Guiseppi Faisaino. . He has, he's also known as David Ring. He has a passport under this name. He's also known as Pinno, and he is a gunman. Never worked a day in his life, never paid taxes, he's a gambler, he's a stick-up man and I worked for the FBI on. organized crime at the racetrack. Roosevelt Raceway, Yonkers, and... Any other agencies? Organized Crime Commission Bureau, OCCB. Ever worked with DEA? Drug Enforcement Agency? Yes I. did. HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 280
FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: FS: -49- Who are the people you are in touch with? Two agents, Murphy and Shannon. This was... You know their full names? | Well I have a day number and a night number and I did some work in the Newberry with my husband with them involving the Cuban narcotics connection in South America. I also worked with the organized crime, gambling. Now you've turned, you want me to turn this tape over to Senator Baker's committee to be turned over to the Justice Department, is that correct? Right? Yes. You want me turn the... Yes, I would like you, Frank, to turn this over just | in case something happens to me because I don't know which way it's going to come, And you need some protection, right now, right? I need some type of help for my. children, because of this man Pinno threatening to expose my dealings with the FBI and to the foreign press. I just caught up in-this thing since 1959 and I've been with it up — until last month, last week and I've just, and I need help. There is no help. I mean since last month and I don't want my children hurt. They've already been hurt. Alright, I promise to turn this tape and the code over to Senator Baker's. committee, right? Yes. Who in turn will turn the information over to the proper officials in Washington, D. C. Yes. I don' t mean to embarass the Bureau. I know how important it is but at this point I need help desparately for my kids. They're 6 and 14 and they don't deserve what they have to go through. The whole summer locked up, threatened and afraid, and my daughter of exposure. WW 50955 Bocld:324273630 Page 231
FS: FS: FS: -50- Did they every try to, to kidnap... ‘Yes. the kids? They threatened to kidnap my children. They were once abducted by this man. I had no knowledge of it. On the last day of school and he, he will hurt them. He will hurt them - this man is sick. He's, he's on 10 valiums a day. He's unpredictable. He's vengeful. , . And his close association with top mobsters? Yes he has close associations... (End of tape) BW 50955 Doacld: 32425630 Page 262
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i: (> Co nes CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY : . WASHINGTON, D. Gc. 20505 22 Jure 1976 gin 23 Wee BATS a Honorable Daniel Inouye, Chairman . j Select Committee on Intelligence , United States Senate , Washington, D.C. 20510 Dear Mr. Chairman: Iam sending you a copy of my letters to Senators Mansfield and Scott extending the moratorium nthe destruction of certain records until 10 December L976, E do hope that this action and the procedures outlined in miy letters are fully re esponsive | to the . interests olf your Committee. Sincerely, vig Slag a Gla elon th “hie v piplletaen ty (Casitaetner WW 50955 Docld:32429630 Page 264
CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WASHINGTON, D.C. 20505 “2 JUN 1976 Honorable Mike Mansfield United States Senate Washington, D.C. 20510 Dear Senator Mansfield: In accordance with your letter of 10 June 1976, we have extended the period of the moratorium on the destruction of certain | - records which were the subject of your letter of 27 January 1975 . in connection with S. Res. 21. The moratorium will expire on ~10 December 1976. In addition, before any such records are destroyed, we shall transmit to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence copies - of the record schedules which are submitted to the National Archives and Record Service for their approval prior to the destruction of any records. The same will be done with respect to those routine | administrative records which, although not involved under 5, Res. 21, | -were withheld from routine destruction during the life of that Resolution. Iam confident that suitable arrangements can be made for review of documents ‘before they are destroyed if this is the desire of the Select Committee. : “ It is aoped that these arrangements are fully responsive to the wishes of you and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence as outlined to me in your letter of 9 June and Chairman Inouye's letter of 8 June to you. Co . Sincerely, _ - Liege George Bush . Director ec: Chairman Daniel Inouye WW 50355 Bocld:32423630 Page 285
CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WaSHINGTON, D.C. 20505. Honorable Hugh Scott © JUN 1975 a United States Senate a : Washington, D.C. 20510 i Dear Senator Scott: : bisenadittemene In accordance with your letter of 10 June 1976, we have . Saks extended the period of the moratorium on the destruction of certain fits records which were the subject of your letter of 27 January 1975 ° _ in connection with S. Res. 21. The moratorium will expire on 0 e 10 December 1976... In addition, before any such records are destroyed, we shall transmit to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence copies © of the record schedules which are submitted to the National Archives. and Record Service for their approval prior to the destruction of any records. The same will be done with respect to those routine administrative records which, although not involved under S. Res. 21, — _ were withheld from routine destruction during the life of that Resolution. ~ Lam confident that suitable arrangements can be made for review of |. documents before they are destroyed if this is the desire of the Select ie Committee, So : F &.. It is hoped that these arrangements are fully responsive to the wishes of you and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence . er as outlined to me in your letter of 9 June and Chairman Inouye's - letter of 8 June to you. = Sincerely, -".. ~ RS sn Lee la - ef ao George Bush . Director. cc: Chairman Daniel [nouye * ie ® a - Bs HW 30955 Docld: 32425630 Page 256
June 7, 1976 Honerable Micheel J, Manefieid United Stetes Senate a 133 Rueselk Bldg. Washingten, DG 20510 Rear Senater Mene field: Geerge Bush's letter te Senater Hugh Secett, with a copy te you, of the 2nd of June is disturbingly ambigueus. In stetiag thee the CIA ucw believes itself relieved of the reepgasibility of waintaining date “which ware subject to imvestigation by the Reckafeller Commission and the Select Coubittee," the Agency failed te seke any effort to identify whet aaterfals ware targeted for destruction and which weren't. Further, tha saxt te last ere gentence of Me. Bush's Letter, “I truse you (Semater Seote) agraz - --¢hag this setien is sow necessary and epprepriate, and I vould — agpreelate your ceafimmection ef thia understanding,“ bss led seme observers in the Senate te conclude ne destruction will teke plece until such demfirmatien tos been given. This does 9 trues. Neither the press effice ner the Legia- * san greene gt 2 inter mae tba sme ae would comfirs thet destruction of date hes set already eccurred, o¢ would sot sccur without acquisence fren the . Senate leadership. Toe the contrary, the legislative caunsel's office informed this group that the “process” of destruction kes | already begun. . The action of the Cen¢ral Intelligence Agency is wrong. The new Seleet Coomittee om Intelligence should have been censuleed price te the destruction ef any materials which ai ght be vital to the proper functioning ef that committees and which ia any case ave withie the legisletive and oversight demeia of that ceamittem Chaigmen Imeuye and Vice-Chairman Baker, along with the easbership of the Intelligence Cemmittes should heve — ghe eppertunity toa review the data selected for dastruction aad to determine, im conjunction with the CIA, thepprogriety of destroying et neinteiaing such data. HY 50955 DBocld:32423630 Page 207
Hom. Micheal Mansfield Page Tee june 7, 1976 _.¥e urge , Senater Mensfield, to take whatever stags necessary to lamediataly hale che unilateral aet undertakes by — che CIA @@ destroying possibly critical and irrepleceabio government documents. . Sinserely yours, janes Humphreys HW 50955 Doocld:32493630 Page 288
| MIKE MANSFIELD / / WONTAR, ; Copy for Senator Baker, Uiurited States Senate Office of the Majority Deuder Washington, B.C. 20510 June 7,.1976 ‘Honorable Daniel K. Inouye - Chairman Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate cos Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Chairman: We have received a letter from the Honorable George Bush, | Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, relative to the destruc~ tion of papers and material which he has held for sometime relative to our request. Our action was taken to facilitate the inquiry being undertaken by your predecessor committee under the chairmanship of Senator Frank Church. In view of the fact, as we assume, that all of Senator Church's committee records have been turned over to your permanent ' Select Committee, we would appreciate your advising us as to whether or not you want our original letter to stand and the papers and other materials to still be held. Could you give us the judgment of you and your Committee on this matter? , With best wishes, we are ~ rine eeepc? eee oto s pigment a HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 289 : ’ '
' CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WASHINGTON,D.G. 20505 - 2 June 1976 | Honorable Mike Mansfield - United States Senate Office of the Majority Leader Washington, D.C. 20510 © | Dear Senator Mansfield: On 27 January 1975, following adoption of S. Res. 21 creating the Select Committee on Intelligence, you and Senator Hugh Scott requested that the Central Intelligence Agency "not destroy, remove from [its]. pos- session or control, or otherwise dispose or permit the disposal of any records or documents which might have a bearing on the subjects under investigation, including but not limited to all records or documents per~ taining in any way to the matters set out in section 2 of S. Res. 21. " In response to this request, the Agency placed in effect a complete moratorium on the destruction of records, including normal administrative records scheduled for routine destruction. The purpose of this letter is to advise you that it is our intention to proceed with destruction of records, now that the Select Committee has completed its investigation and issued its final report. We have so advised Senator Church. oo cane erne tee ger ee ‘ Along with the backlog of routine administrative records, the Agency will destroy records which were collected and maintained by the Agency . and which were subject to investigation by the Rockefeller Commission and the Select Committee. The Agency is required to destroy much of this latter material by the Privacy Act of 1974 (P. L. 93-579) and by Executive Order 11905. Of course, all records destruction will be fully consistent with other applicable laws, Presidential directives, and the requirements of pending litigation and Justice Department investigations. I trust you agree that this action is now necessary and appropriate, and I would appreciate your confirmation of this understanding. - Tam sending a duplicate of this letter to Senator Hugh Scott. Gedyge Bush Director WW 50955 Docld: 324273630 Page 290° eat tester nes
+), FRANK CHURCH, IDAHO, CHAIRMAN JOHN G. TOWER, TEXAS, VICE CHAIRMAN PHILIP A. HART, MICH. | HOWARD H. BAKER, JR., TENN. WALTER F. MONDALE, MINN. BARRY GOLDWATER, ARIZ. WALTER 0. HUDDLESTON, KY. CHARLES MC C. MATHIAS, JR., MD. ROBERT MORGAN, NG. * RICHARD §. SCHWEIKER, PAc “IC e "ge Gav waere coco. nited States Senat WILLIAM G, MILLER, STAFF DIRECTOR ¢ FREDERICK A. 0. SCHWARZ, JR., CHIEF COUNSEL CURTIS R. SMOTHERS, MINORITY COUNSEL ° SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (PURSUANT TO 8. RES. 21, S4TH CONGRESS) .WASHINGTON, D.C. 20510 February 11, 1976 Professor E. W. Pfeiffer University of Montana Missoula, Montana 59801 Dear Professor Pfeiffer: Senator Mansfield has informed me that you did not receive my letter to you of December 19, concerning the work of the Select Committee. I am therefore enclosing a copy for your information. Sincerely, William G. Miller Staff Director HW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 291
MIKE MANSFIELD _ MONTANA United Stutes Sertate RI C18 Btn 25 Office of the Majority Leader SEY =f G3 Washington, B.C. 20510 December 15, 1975 Professor E. W. Pfeiffer University of Montana. Missoula, Montana 59801 Dear Professor Pfeiffer: This will acknowledge your letter of December 2. L will be glad to contact Mr. Miller again and ask him to respond to your request. Must close now, but with best personal wishes, I am i _ Sincerely yours, f cc William ¢, Miller LG a ee HW 50955 DocId:32423630. Page 292
University of Montana Missoula, Montana s9s8o01 (406) 243-0211 January 8, 1976 Senator Mike Mansfield (nited States Senate Washington, LC 20510 Dear- Senator Mansfield: Thank you for your letter of December 15th in which you state that you would contact “r. Miller and ask him to respond to my request. I am sorry to bother you again bit I have had no word from Mr. Miller. As you know, I feel that the matter is of sufficient importance that it deserves a reoly or at least an acknowledgement of a receipt of my; letter from ifr. Miller. . X\ Sincerely yours, . eZ - HY 50955 DBocld:32423630 Page 293
Professor E. W. Pfleiffer December 19, 1975 Page Iwo. . I regret that we simply do not have the time or re- sources to investipate the matter which understandably con-~ cers you. This does not deny its importance. [I hope one of the other committees may better be able to help you. Sincerely, an 7 Staff Director . alg ste Tet we py 8 et ge eB bee gt eT mt nos octa: 32423630. Page 294
wy Professor FE. W. Pfeiffer “December 19, 1975 ‘aye. Page Iwo. a I regret that we simply do not have the time or re- _ sources to investigate the matter which understandably con- - cerns you. This does not deny its importance. I hope one of the other committees may better be able to help you. ‘Sincerely, ; , a , a Staff Director $494630 ‘Page 295 wt Ne vt Sm er 3 . me wee ay FY cr Cee era eae
SEL COMM File: rd o a * ‘Professor E. W. Pfeiffer .* University of Montana st.) Missoula, Montana 59301 - ": Dear Professor Pfeiffer: ying to your inquiries.. ce eey oh meet -*- Please forgive the delay in repl “c" The press of business on the Select Committee has been ex- * cessive. . deed considered a number of problems _ concerning the role of U.S. intelligence agencies in Indochina. - For example, there was an executive session on CIA paramhblitary - a operations in Laos. Staff members have also investigated sev-.  - eral cases related to Vietnam. ~-. Unfortunately, the Committee has been forced to set some... - vii limits to its inquiry. There are a vast number of important | “¥!" q{gsues in the activities of the intelligence agencies. To do -* an effective job of presenting recommendations for lepislation . “o> concerning the agencies, within the time allotted to the Com-= <:.-- _-* mittee, we have had to concentrate our attention on certain “.' issues rather than others. The Committee has concluded that “.> the use of herbicides will not be within the purview of its investigation. The Committee has in % Pa ° ak * A permanent committee for overgight-of the intelligence .° agencies may be established to follow the Select Committec. JiterIn this case there would be new opportunities to pursue many . Nein OF the lingering, unresolved issues which remain. The problem EO Of yge of herbicides in Indochina might also be considered with- -- . $n the jurisdictions of the Committees on Foreign Relations or | Armed Services. mS . . a POD GPA aks o wg ei ie Soe erga . hn we ee or rae oe Looe cs — a Mapes e, : cas Tae! ate. eas eG SRF g Aeneas Ae iy acl gt ft geeats warn é N RS orbit itha, “ae wet a ey OMe eg : fo. : soe a . MS &: vi w . ‘S098 5 “Woetad:s32423630 Page 296
University of Montana Necemver 2, 1975 Missoula, Montana 59801 (406) 243-0211 Senator Mike Mansfield U.S, Senate Office Building Washington, L.C. 20510 Dear Senator Mansfield: fou may recall that some weeks ago you were kind enough to arrange a meeting between myself and Mr. William Miller, of the staff of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. You arranged this meeting for me so that I could present documents, which I showed you, relating to possible CIA illegal activ- ities in Indochina. Specifically, as you know, I have long been interested in the problem of who carried out the massive defoliation raids against Cambodia, one year prior to the U.%. incursions into that country and during a time when, formally, there were normal relations between the United States and the Royal government of Cambodia. After talking with you about the matter, I met, for . about one-half hour, with Er. Miller and showed him the documents I showed you. He made some notes and assured me that the question. of possible illegal activ- . ities of the CIA in Indochina, including Cambodia, was on the agenda of his committee. Sometime ago, I wrote ixr. Miller to find out when he expected the committee might look into Indochina. However, as has been the case since ‘ngust, with respect to communications from this committee, I have as yet re- ceived no answer, “not even an acknowledgement of receipt. I have just read in the press that the Senate Intelligence Comittee expects again to look at: Chile, Cuba, etc., but there is no indication of any interest in Indochina. I would greatly appreciate your help in learning whether, in fact, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence will look into possible illegal coWert opera~ tions of '.S5,. intelligence agencies in Indochina. I would also appreciate your views as to what I should do to get an investigation of the massive clan- I destine herbicide attack on Cambodia (1969). This was a unique operation in technological history of foreign relations and as a biologist I ain most inter- ested and concerned to get the full story on this bizarre incident. if the Senate ‘elect Committee will not ask obvious questions of the intelligence community, I would greatly appreciate your views on whonI should turn to, to ask these questions. . . . . I want to thank you again for your hel on my last trip to Washington. I “regret that I have to keep bothering you about this matter, but I do hope you understand my concern, based on my versonal observations in Indochina, tnat the facts about cdWert operations there be publically determined. BE, y Preitte r Equal Opportunity in Education and Employment ee HW 350955 DBocld:32423630 Page 297
wu’ Professor E. W. Pfeiffer “roo University of Montana “zit (Missoula, Montana 59801 ges, Dear Professor Pfeiffer: rot Please forgive the delay in replying to your inquiries. . ee ye he Select Committee has been ex- oa “s° The press of business on € ".* eessive. my The Committee has indeed considered a number of problems .. eoncerning the role of U.S. intelligence agencies in Indochina. /For example, there was an executive session on CIA paramhlitary - a operations in Laos. Staff members have also investigated sev-. rn eral cases related to Vietnam. — . ies. ee etl See eas Unfortunately, the Committee has been forced to set some - ww pax. limits to its inquiry. There are a vast number of important ce Ronse. issues in the activities of the intelligence agencies. To do... OF j ; -* an effective job of presenting recommendations for lepislation he agencies, within the time allotted to the Com= ..- ntrate our attention on certain The Committee has concluded that its Oc ete? concerning t vue mittee, we have had to conce “iat. t issues rather than others. ta the use of herbicides will not be within the purview o Sl investigation. — et ae ey rs ce A permanent committee for oversight of the intelligence _ agencies may be established to follow the Select Committea. ‘or In: this case there would be new opportunities to pursue many -~ of the lingering, unresolved issues which remain. The problem “ of use of herbicides in Indochina might also be considered with- -in the jurisdictions of the Committees on Foreign Relations or ) Armed Services. sav cabamtins, Geen) & acta GR Se iy le ® : uw ' | oy ne eat bengrs Nee | wo A ai Ee a A A nce wee pe : ey oA Betty TU TN AT ee - Ae ee aneeed ae A tues x HW 50955 Bocld: 32423630 Page 293
! ‘ 4 1 1 Professor E. We iffer University of Mo Missoula, Montane 5 Dear Professor Preiffe Semtor Mensfiela hey informed me ‘that you 414 net receive my letter to you o wr 19, concerning the work of the Select Committee. therefore enclosing @ copy for your information. be: Senator Mike Mansfield HW 50955 Docld: 32423630. Page 299
ar 3 4 ¢ an pot MM) Met with Senator Prank Church regarding he hod written’ to Professor E. W. Pfeiffer of the University of Montana, - . stating that. Senator Church had reliable information that Air America was ‘xe sponsible’ ‘for defoliation operations in Cambodia. A nator Church's lett ex had been sent to the Director for comment. by Professor Arthur /H. Westing, Windham College jin Vermont. 1 explained to the Senator we were much concerned over this allegation and the Director authorized me to deny it categorically. I added that while we - were not prying into the identity ‘of the Senator's source,,we were curious as to whether.this source's allegations were based on honest mistake or . d the Senator might wish to straighten malice. If the former, I suggeste hirn out. Senator Church said he couldn't remember off hand where he He said he Bally sccepted. learned this information but would check his ‘files. \ a letter copy of Se our denial. cay g 4 q og a *% es HW 50955 Docld:32423630 age 300
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i | CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY | f co a _ WASHINGTON, D. Ret 20505 2 a _ [ J! : | i CO “Review Staff: ‘76- 02:2 \, an | ‘27 February 1976 j i Te .|William G. Miller ~~). fi | ; ff Director ect Committee To study Governmental : ; perationls With Respect To intelligence ctivities : m G- 508 iirkisen Senate Office Building | hington, D.C. 20510 . Attn: Mr. Ralsit i Mr: Miller: , ii In) response to requests’ about Agency involvement! | Cambodia, the attached statement is |forwarded for |! | youl information, rt | 7 ~  - Sincerely, | . : Pe Walter Elder “| | Review Staff | 7 Attachment ; | pg ' Denial of CIA involvement in the ‘ | lresistance and dissident activities i ‘lwhich occurred in Cambodia since the j(fall of that country to Communists, my A [rs cr PRECEE D ‘FEB 27 19! roy]
q ft L ' : ir UNCLASSIFIED ! io : | — ' Ihe Central Intelligence Agency has not been involved in any jway in the resistance and dissident activities which have sccurred in Cambodia since the fall of hat country to . the Cémihun i's ts | i] | h | | i : ir ‘ : de 1 | | heb o> 176 | fh fh ; A E at i UNCLASSIFIED :
| CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY | WASHINGTON, 0.¢. -20505 i | . a Review Staff: °76- 0229/1 Dod He 23 Februany 1976 SiiWiqiiam G. Miller. 7 ff Director ect. Committee To Study Governmental | | perations With Respect To Intelligence ctivities | . Voy it G- 308 iKsen| Senate Office Building . fet Hington| D.C. 20510. | _ Attn:| Mr. Ralsiton a Mr Miller: | | i In response ‘to your recent request about allegations ‘Agency. involvement in Cambodia, please be advised |that . Ralston was: given a copy of a 1971/letter from nator: Church to Professor Pfeiffer and ajcopy. of a/! emorandum for the record reflecting a;conversation |! dtween Senator Church and our ‘Legislative Counsel about Hel specific allegation concerning theluse jof herbicides 1 iCambodia in 1969. . i ; | These memoranda were furnished Professor Pfeiffer jresponse to his FOIA request. | | Sincerely, Phe ae _ Walter Elder | po, Review State :
“oS profesor E,W! Pfeiffer _." University of Montana = ‘aa! Missoula, Montana 59801 — hss, Dear :ofessor Pfeiffer: “OS The p ~~ cessl ease forgive the delay in replying to your inquiries. . ae ss of business on the Select Committee has been exX- — 0-1 | E asa as . The Committee has indeed considered a| number of problems ols, concerning the! role of U.S. intelligence agencies in Indochina. “=” For example, there was an executive session on CIA paramblitary - .'-— ‘operations in Laos. Staff members have also investigated sev-. {4° eral cases related to Vietnam. ae Unfortunately, the Committee has been forced to set some woes og Limits) to its inquiry. There are a vast number of important ade s/in the hetivities of the intelligence agencies. To do | fective job of presenting recommendations for legislation _ ae rning the| agencies, within the time allotted to the| Com- _ mittee) we have had to concentrate our attention on certain 2 fggueelrather jchan others. The Committee has concluded that “oo. the use of herbicides will not be within the purview of its a! ‘ 4 cigation.. .’" A)permanent committee for oversight of the intelligence. . agencies may be established to follow the |Select Committee. — i gs case there would be new opportunities ito pursue many. Lingering, unresolved issues which /remain. The problem. lel of herbicides in Indochina might also be considered with- — e) jurisdilctions of the Committees on Foreign Relations or Armed Services. a | Be
Professor BE. W. Pfeiffer fo 7 a / 7 Decenber 19, 1975 os | ee Page | Ti regret that we simply do not have the time or - re-|| fous investigate the matter which understandably con- you. This does not deny its importance. I hope one p) other committees may better be able to help: ‘you. [i fi ; j 1 Sincerely | ; oop : beeen J) owe William G) Miller </> ' Staff Director eat ore 309
H . ' Lo . . ig t ' 3 | : : tl : ad | MIKE MANSFIELD : oo OY _ MONT, Al. ; . ( ire : be . t bes United States Somtte hi FI | Office of the 4 Unjorily Lender i a ’ _ dilas! jingtan, & n.d. 20510 | : December 15, 1975 ; i I | | Professor E. W. Pfeiffer | University of Montana i: Missoula, Montana 59801 7 i | Peat Professor Pfeiffer: : | ‘This will acknowledge your letter of] December 2; ‘ i I will be glad to contact Mr. Miller again and ask him!’ respond to your request, | | H Must’ close now, but with best personal wishes, Ty am ’ i Sincerely yours,” | ie CC William G, Miller | 1P tn ~> a : | | : HW 50955 poctat 4423630 page 310
University Missoula/| (406) 243-0 | ! HL | of Mohtana ay mos [Montana 59801 Aa cose Senator Mike Mansfield U.S. Senate Washington | Dear |Senator liansfield: fou May . recall that meeting betw Commiittee| gn Intellilrence. present documents, which I showed you, ities in |{ndochina. the i problem one year lpm formally, there were government [of Cambodia. about onerhalf hour,| with fir. Ile made some ities of ithe CIA in committech | ‘Sometime ago committee! might look into Indochina. August, with _ ceived no answer, not even an in the press that the Senate Intelli: Chile, Cubal I would er Select Con tions of: i your’ “view _destine h - technologi. ested and Senate. Cd community ask these -I want repret that, understand the | facts) res De Oats Uffice Yuilding D.G. 20510 i i ‘ittee on ——= oncerned Ne uestions. to thank . sac Be a as th WW 50955 j t | docrdt 4oaoa630 %. intelligence agencies in Indochina. as to what I should do to get an javestipation of: the massive jclan~ bicide attack on Cambodia (1969). al- history of foreign relations and as a biologist I ain most /inter~ bo geet the full story on this bivarre et Comittee will not ask obvious questions of I would preatly appreciate your views on wl sorte weeks Age you were kind enough to ayrange staf’ of the Senate Select “fou arranred this meetany: to possible CTA fiegal! activ- | i ‘8 Long been interested in relating Specifically, as you know, Ths ‘of who carried out the massive defoliation raids against Cambodia, tor to the U.0. incursions into that country and during a time when, normal relations between the "nited States and thé’ Royal ifter talking with you about iiller and showed é notes and assured me that the question o Indocniha, including Cambodia, wa Uwrote tir. iiiller to find out when he expected the been) the case since. h respect to cominications from this committee, 1 have as ger re~ Lot. However, as has acknowledgement oi rece ‘ence Com ittee cxpects ; | I 5 etc., but there is no indication of any interest in Indochina. Senate i Egu ual | Opportunity in Education: and aq be S for me sxe) thot I I have) just This was atly appreciate your help in learning: whether, in fact, the, ¢ Intelligence will look into possible illegal coltert’ ‘Opera~ I would} also appreciate om I should in Indochina, determined.) Employmen| anci ident. if’ the intlelligen urn to you again Lor your belp on ny Last trip to Washingt “tT have tl keep, bothering you about. this matter), but Ji do ho; my concern, based on my personal onservetrons bout coVert operations there be publicdily =o-¢ Outs ert, could the matter, I net, | for him the documents I showed YOU. £ possible #Llegal. Activ- on the agenda of ‘his read again to Look at a unique operation in ‘the. eee Pa fee) ct c He mm (mee meer Cc oS ‘la tha Ife I iB
od duit Wi whan i | 1 7 | Mr. amd | Staff Director | Select Committee on Intelligenc U. S. Senate : b Pfeiffer =. | ia in —— id Activities q i ie q i e& Correspondence ie Professor E. W. . I would apprec nbs: gee ax precly: ™ ae oe enti heat, iH ate your replying et directly. ine to egies mate gt re Pevie: ahs wh Pail ae : : eh gb) Oe vate “at wie, oe hn ene mies! NRE
: THE MISSOULIAN P.O. BOX 13535 - S00 N. HIGGINS AVE, MISSOULA, MONTANA | § TEL. (406) 342-0311 : Oct. 23, 1975 Mr. Williem G, Miller, Staff Director Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities Room 607, Capitol Hill Hotel Washington,..D,C. 20510 - .-- nt ener oe ee emma nant a yg rr Dear Mr. Miller: Recently I discussed with Dr. E. W. Pfeiffer, University of Montana zoologist, an incident in which he has had an abiding concern: the. . teeg attack that occurred in eastern Cambodia in the spring of “7 "> As I understand it, from my talks with Dr. Pfeiffer andfrom my review of the correspondence he has received from various agencies, _ there is no doubt that the attack actually occurred, that it was Lis large and sifnificant, and that the nature of the chemicals and oy aircraft involved indicate that the U.S. had:a direct role in carrying it out. i: Yet it seems the State and Defense departments, the CIA and the "nrivate" CIA-affiliate Air America have all denied in one way or another that they conducted the attack, ‘The obvious question is who did make the attack? Who ordered it, why was it ordered and under what authority? Dr. Pfeiffer has |= = indicated your committee is looking into this matter and that. the affair may ultimately be discussed in-the. course of Select Committee hearings at some point. Is it possible for you to tell me the status of your tnouiry? Would -it be anpropriate at this time for our newspaper to interview Dr, — Pfeiffer and write -a news story on the documents he has received, i or would ‘such a s tualy benefit from new information your committee “:- efforts may resurrect within the near future? mo Thanks in advance for your interest, We have followed’ with great — ‘interest the Select Committee efforts to date.. ey PUG —) Fer TE avian ge , Don Schwennesen 7 , Cee ~~) Chr Environmental] Writer aaa os . fe | . 100% Recycled | (3 HW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 313
- : oa , fen a ad a . + t * de, University of Montana Missoula, Montana 59801 (406) 243-0211 | ; Oct. 27, 1975 - - Mr. William Miller Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Rm G~ 308 Dirksen Senate Office Bldg. Washington, D.C. Dear Mr. Miller: Through the good offices of Senator Mansfield, we met, some weeks ago to discuss certain problems related to possibilgCIA activity in Cambodia. As you know,I am particularly interested in why the CIA cannot or will not find out who carried out the massive herbicide attack against Cambodia in the spring of 19696 The CIA has under the Freedom of Information Act provided me with some documents from my file which bear directly upon this strange episode and Senator Church's efforts to find out information for me. When we met you indicated that CIA activities in Indochina were to be investigated by the Select Comittee. I would greatly appreciate krowing about when you think this subject will come up. I: would also very much like to submit some of the documents I have received from the CIA and my personal testimony to. the Committee. I believe that Professor A. Westing and myself were the last official guests of the Sihanouk regime before it was temporarily deposed. ; I look forward to hearing from you on these matters. Sincerely yours, Mth E.W.Pfeiffer — L3G h) a | Professor ; => blue . | . | | - C 5 HW shetss ~Sparaktihosehe Frage’ ferrlig dia expert — Fan
cee meme eee: ence QS University of Montana Missoula, Montana 59801 (406) 243-0211 ne wonmean ? Aug. 6, 1975 Mr. Paul Wallach Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Room G 308 Dirksen Building Washington, D.C. 20510 | Dear Mr. Wallach: As decided in our phone conversation today, I am writing to you about a conversei:ion I had last week in Paris with an official of the Royal Government of Cambodia. He informed me that CIA-directed activities hostile to his government are presently occurring in his country, and that these activities are being launched from bases in Thailand. I would greatly appreciate your assistance in finding out for me whether any agency of the U.S. Government is presently carrying out activities against the Royal Government of Cambodiae I greatly appreciated the opportunity to talk with you in person recently, and thank you for your interest ‘and help. E.W.Pfeiffer Laret fl cnt rofessor of Zoology (Beer Man, HW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 315
. CDP S ETT ld PITA $, VU. Te DATOS . ELLA AMD PTW A APE WAL GIN Om, TC. 2h BE. W, Pfeifxter Professor of ZooLoxgy ’ : University of Montans, mo Missoula, Montana 59502 nyt 7 Please forgive my. a last letter of March 29, partment of state nas Ooffes Ke, the Seventh ir force Stuey availebie to me at the Department, ft frankly have not had the chance to get aowa and ax in yvepiving to youx C : though & the De- tae SSADO te pepaz tment, Dut re iiion vo know the Th @ ource was “not ‘she Ste Sivie@ual who is in & “this matter, fuk to neve a full stuay he =. . Tt would be w .2 fects of our defoliation a OB% | of tne extenv and the e . prograa in Bou eheas Asie. Perhaps you end Artaur . . Meshing and othe: could get together to maxe &® pro- (2 posal fore study ‘of this nature. oe ou oe 5 With test wishes, — . & * BW 50955 Docld: 32425671
i i HW 50955 | : through direct contacte | in a the FBI or at ‘Justice or. through: Edward Po as an Memorandum wal | a/| 4/7 To: Terry Lenzner From: Jim Moore . Subject: Robert Maheu - John Roselli - _ Herets a summary. of what I have done on the Roselli- Maheu a connection, *: investigating and prosecuting Roselli. He couldn't remember the source Oe et ; . : oe es of those stories, saying that his information came from many people, including Justice Department lawyers in Washington and the FBI. One story he heard was that Maheu tried to. intervene in | Washington, either - a Ele eee 7 — ve Vat! | Morgan, to kill 1 the: Roselli prosecution on the basis that Roselli had helped” the United States in Cuba. Maheu was. reportedly @ an ‘old CIA agent, * Nissen ’ \ remembers hearing 2 at some. point that Roselli had gone to. Cuba in an attempt “Nissen said that there are extensive files: on Roselli maintained by 7 the FBI oi!the Department, Nissen had a vague recollection that the files contained a story about Maheu somehow being involved in a wiretap on Sam Giancona, for whom Roselli worked, Nissen also remembered information about a meeting between Maheu and Giancona regarding Cuba, but he couldn't remember any of the specifics. Docld:324373630 Page 317
i } ' i I I. ! HW 450955 When Roselli came up for sentencing, he was represented by Tom Wadden, who had been associated in some capacity with Edward Bennett Williams. Wadden filed a motion to reduce sentence and included with iit + two ‘col a’mns by Jack Anderson that recounted the story of Roselli and Maheu trying to assasinate Castro, Nissen thought the motion might also have’ : aa included an affidavit from Edward P. Morgan. “The government succes ssfully resisted the motion on the > grounds of fraud, since Wadden produced no "witnesses or documentation to support his claim. I called the Federal Court Rees tad Anglen, and ‘they have nt the motion for reduction of sentence’ and 7 ~~ Roselli ow in Florida so he can be reached, but, according to Nissen, Giancona is in exile somewhere in Mexico. FROVTIER CASE Nissen never heard about Maheu being questioned in ‘Washington in Frant tier liew of the Grand Jury appearance. Nissen did not: try the/case, because he had been promoted to supervisory. capacity. However, he seemed surprised | that he had never heard of such a meeting. He” “? gave me the names of three lawyers who handled the case after he gave up direct responsibility. My phone i interview y with, the first of them, J erry Uliman, is_ written’ “-up-as a. separate interview. The. second Lawyers John Hornbeck, has not” =. yet returned’ my phone call, The third,” ‘Tom Kotoski jactually, tried the case. . He is now an assistant United. States | Attorney in Los Angeles and about to become’ head of the San Francisco Strike Force, He will be in Washington Thursday and. Friday February 14 and 15, and. Lhave asked him to. call me ; as ‘soon as possible. _ I! pei eieitennn ae oe a er oe Docld:32423630 Page 316
that file One final note - Nissen said/the RoseHi/in the Justice Department contains many references to Maheu. He never, however, saw or heard about * a file kept on Maheu himself. _ - . ; ~ . 4 head of the Kansas City strike F Forc@; ‘ Mike 6 DeFeophe ‘something abi ut th Dunes. “and ‘Friday. it th oe He, » segording to ) Crane, 7 Tight know HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 319
HW 50955 Docld: NAME ALIASES DESCRIPTION - ESCALITIES | _ FREQUENTED FAMILY BACKGROUND. - CRIMINAL _ ASSOCIATES _ CRIMINAL. HISTORY BUSINESS MODUS - OPERANDI 32473630 Page 320 e -. dark chestnut hair, fair complexion and medium build. ‘Resides at 11)7 Wenonah Ave. . Oak Park, [l1. Frequents rad 144 Sam GIANCANA Sam Mooney, Sam Malone Born 7-16-08, Chicago, Ille3 Sto", 175 lbs., hazel eyes, the Army Lounge, Norwood’ House, Villa Venice, all of Chicago, Illinois. _ Wife, Angeline DeTolve, died in 195). ~Has three: daughters, Annette, Bonita Lou and Francine. Mother deceased, father is Tony Giancana, and sisters are Mary, Josephine and Victoria. Sam's consort is Ladana Collins, 20 E. Delaware, Chicago, - Tllinoise Tony Accardo, Paul Riceo, Willie Baddone, Nicholas D'Amico, Sam Battaglia and Leonard Gianola, all of ‘Chicago, Illinois. FBI #5837, Chicago. PD #E-27165. Subject has re~ cord of 13. arrests dating from Sept. 1925, on such . charges as murder, grand larceny, auto theft, burglary and liquor law violations with two felony convictions. Owns the Forest Lounge, the R&S Liquor Cos, the Lohmar Dist. Co., Chicago, [11., and has gambling interests and an interest in the shrimp business in Cubae A top ranking member of the Mafia in the State of 1. and a director of the organization's activi- tieas in GChiesen and vi ainitw cece ue _
” DESCRIPTION. FAMILY . BACKGROUND “ASSOCIATES _ HISTORY - BUSINESS =: MODIS st -OPERANDI ~ WW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 321 hairy blue eyese | Giovanni. ROSELLI John Roselli, John Russelli, John Kasselle, John Passelli - Born 7-l-0h Chicago, - Th, 5'8", 171 los, brown-erey Resides 1252 No. Crescent Htse, Hollywood, Cal. Fre- quents gambling casinos at.— _ Las Vegas where he has room at Tropicana Hotel. Travels frequently all parts UeSe . a Divorced from movie actress Jane’ Lang; fathers _ _"Vineenzo; mothers Maria Russo (both, deceased); | cousins Joseph Evangelista. Dragna family, Philip Kastel, Harold Meltzery - Francisco Costiglia, Charles Fischetti, Louis . Piscopos - FBI #3339986. LeA. Sheriff's Office #512h7. Record dating from 1926 includes arrests for _‘guspicion of robbery, vagrancy, interfering with trade, mail ‘fraud & violation of paroles — Vice-President Monte Prosser Productions and varied other interestse i A: top Mafia figure ‘at Los Angeles and. Las ‘Vegase. . Active in labor racketeering and control | of gamb= Linge
LT PP eee POBUB A sahee «We Shh tte «sree nes as PRAM oo: GAD 2, EPVER, JP, 08, CHALRALAR HOWARD MH. BAKER, JR, TENN. VICE CHAIRMAN HERMAN &. TALMADGE, GA, EDWARD J. GURNEY, PLA, DANIEL i. IRONY, MAW ALS — LOWELL ». WHCKEm, Jf, COMI, . JOSEPH MM. MONTOYA, pt, 4. . coner couse as OME necton — Mlnifea Gtates apernaf iNomreY counaen , SELECT COMMITTEE ON - to RUFUS L. EDMISTEN . PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES i. DEPUTY COURSES > —_ (pursuant vo &, RES. 48, IO CONGRESS) rn 7 ae an WASHINGTON, D.C, 20510 4 -... MEMORANDUM | re ; PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL “4 Tos, i Senator Ervin. ee ‘From: Terry Lenzner and Marc Lackritz Subject: Relevance to Ss. Res. 60 of John Rosselli's 7°. oi fe . testimony about his CIA activities -- --: vee OTs me ee ae ; ; ~ hoor, ee Le mm ; Summary: , potepan Fen . John Rosselli and his attomey, Tom Wadden, object to testifying about Rosselli's involvement with Robert Maheu in a: Posey ER ClA-financed plot to assassinate Fidel Castro in the early 1960's cx ° The objection is based upon national security grounds as well as an assertion by Mr. Wadden that the material is not relevant to our inquiry under S. Res. 60. oo 7 Testimony of Mr. Rosselli about this matter is relevant and necessary to our investigation for a variety of reasons. oom Ch Cn a oa’ Bee Foes eee coe of CIA apparently financed and organized a plot to assassinate Fidel ~ Castro. Among the participants in this Plot were Robert Maheu and . John Rossell. -Maheu had a ‘public relations business at the time, .. and Rosselli was associated with some alleged organized crime figures (e.g. Sam Giancana) who had lost substantial gambling - investments when -Castro came to power. Apparently, the plot | continued into the early 1960's even after the abortive Bay of Pigs invasion, but it failed in attaining its objective of killing Castro. Only a few officials in the government knew of the exis- "tence of the plot at that time. : a Justice Department officials stumbled across this infor- mation about the Plot as a result of their investigation into an illegal wiretap by Sam Giancana in the early 1960's. ne womey ee gg ee De. 1336: A ambler with contacts Roselli Harvey said 50955 Decla: 32aas6s0gedyganssome gambler with contact li, Harvey “During the last year of the Eisenhower Administration, the . , tO Pt re et ae HVECLLATUE 2 Le tek cis areranse woe FV e eapwy ace icaeemnnenner heed 2 SO OS rp ee . 3 t he hada high ~ ~ —Br
-2~ The sensitive information was brought to the attention of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, and either he or then-Attomey General Robert Kennedy ordered the prosecution of Giancana dropped in order not td compromise national security considerations. re amin omg ‘information’ about ‘the alleged assassination plot. ‘then lay dormant’ in a secret file in the Department. of Justice until ‘early 1969; when Assistant Attorney General Will Wilson requested the file from the Deputy Chief of the Organized Crime Section. The file ©. was returned to Central Files shortly | after it was. taken out. . ALS oo’ Te Rake Cae ane oeainad wisi wy 4, we a : - fae. . te Set t “assistant Attorney ‘General ‘Wilson next réquested the pee Justice file in early 1971 in connection with his interview of Robert Maheu on January 27, 1971 (see attached chronology). This interview at the Department of Justice, in lieu of a grand jury appearance, was arranged by a telephone call to Attorney General Mitchell on January 19, 1971, only one day after Jack Anderson published his first column linking both Maheu and Rosselli. to the CIA. Plott to > kill Castro. {see attached) . “However, the significance of Anderson' s column. on January 8, 1971, was that on the same day, Haldeman requested Dean.to find out. what he could about the Hughes - Maheu - o! Brien relationship. De ; In the follow-up memos from Caulfield to Dean on the Maheu- O'Brien link, Caulfield notes Maheu's prior "covert activities" for the CIA and advises Dean that a check into CIA, FBI, and IRS files on Robert -Maheu is advisable to avoid a "counter-scandal. " In addition, Assistant Attorney General Wilson showed the sensitive "Castro file” to Attorney General Mitchell, in January, 1971, and discussed with him the political. implications of the information. Following the on-the-record interview of Maheu on January 27, 1971, by Lynch, Wilson and Petersen, Maheu was interviewed privately by Wilson concerning his prior CIA activities with John Rosselli. Maheu was not forthcoming with information about the plot at that time. Attorney General Mitchell discussed the contents of the sensitive file with President Nixon, according to Wilson, who had advised him to do so. ae ~ Conclusion: Therefore, the obsession of the Administration in keeping tabs on Larry O'Brien in 1971 and 1972 was in part motivated by a fear that Maheu would impart some of this sensitive information about the plot ia tds  Gvhenaena BCR ROU wee aecuwnnny wee oo: yous 25y, aan HW fioss poora: 32423634 | ‘pagplighendsome gambler y with contacts“ Roselli, sianvey said i he ied a “high * po wt mn om RO Me eee. .
~3- _ to O'Brien. Alternatively the objective was to discover if there was _ any information about the plot that might be damaging to the Democrats that O'Brien might possess from Maheu. And these concerns could have been a possible motivation for the break-in to the offices of the DNC and Larry O'Brien by four Cuban~Americans on June 17,1972, especially since their directions were to photograph any documents" "’ * relating to Cuban contributions or Cuban involvement in the 1972 ~° Democratic campaign. Be woo we It is for these reasons that we wish to question John Rosselli: 2"! _ about the nature and scope of his activities with Robert Maheu in the _ ” tae . % a rare sar wie weal t VY « . rena - 0 a vO. - - ; rhe i 3 ? - £ i 3 H ¢ i i . ; 4 f { : * | SVG Reo uae BUUoCaray ae augs-- -- Cais apy, us JADA Yi, ERP ehasweee we ie Armariesyn and Cushow ay 0038 Boctar32424630 Baily bandgome gambler with contac Roselli, Harvey said he had a hish°” ~By " . :
CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS Thanksgiving, 1970 Hughes leaves Las Vegas. December 4, 1970 a Maheu is fired. — January 18, 1971 4 ae a Jack Anderson columa published linking, Mal ee tA &., and Rosselli to plot to kill, Castro. : January 18, 1971, LS ery Haldeman sends memo to Dean requesting ir ; a wy Pld mation on O! ‘Brien-Maheu~Hughes relations] January 19, 1971. ae : —— Jack’ “Anderson column appears with’ more det wit ee OT foes _.., on Maheu's involvement in. plot to assassin: January 19, 1971 — pas . Attorney General John Mitchell called Robert Maheu_ in Las Vegas at 5:12 p.m. and talked e January 25, 1971e os _ oP gas 7 Caulfield to Dean* memo discussing ‘Danner . we vee; Te. ~ relationship with Maheu, O’Brien relationsh: Mes a oS with. Maheu, ‘and request for investigation ir reg ee ‘CIA, FBI, IRS files for information: to avoid. @ - “counter-scandal, Be: va 8 7 ae L. » Dine u me wes a Ses oe ryan, - - ‘January 25, 19717" John Rosselit enters” ‘prison ~ a January 26, 1971 | —— . “Dean to Tldeman a memo on Maheu-o' Brien- Hughes relationship - -Maheu. interviewed at Department of Justice ] _ ALA.G. Will Wilson,..Henry Petersen and Bill _Lynch, in lieu of an appearance before the ;,, Grand Jury. Interview is about skimming" i a. las Vegas + eo Sead OS oe TH gles. _ A WA. G. ‘Wilson and Petersen meet with } Mahe privately to discuss Maheu' 's Prior CIA activi ae a February 1, 1971" a —- i ‘ Caulfield 3 to , Dean | memo > noting that Maheu w: ea ee 7 '- involved in "covert activities" for the CIA in early 1960's. February 12, 1971 . : | too. Rosselli's attorney files a Motion to Reduce \ ; 7 Sentence based on Rosselli's prior CIA activi: i Nace 8. eee - gedly handsome gambler with contacts - ‘Roselli, Harvey said he. had a | bigh ° Bi I ae fe ~ oe Te * stanew recruited John Kosellt; a Tug” " Fears ego, in Indianapolis. ‘Askea about equaty, +. RW 40°. Magbotie she American and Cuban Ul-- regard for him. §0955 Docld: 324236
HW 50955 i) © 11 12 13 14 15 16 7 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ol Oo @ 2 HO OO & & ND F.- 25th day of June, - ey a PL ty ek: ae aa ; “Signa | AL Atak. ay Myr fa J. Weinstein. & ® ‘ “ (VERIFICATION — 446, 2015.5 C. C. P.) STATE OF CALIFORNIA - COUNTY OF 8 I am the. in the above entitled action; I have read the Joregoing and know the contents thereof: and | certify that the same is true of my own knowledge, except as to those matters which are therein stated upon my information or belief, and as to those matters I believe it-to be true. 1 certify (or declare), under penalty of perjury,® that the foregoing is true and correct. De |, nn 7 3 . California (date) ; (place) Signature (PROOF OF SERVICE BY MAIL -- 1013a, 20155 C. C. P.) STATE OF CALIFORNIA. _ couNTy oF Los Angeles {™ ] am a citizen of the United States and a resident of the county aforesaid; 1 am ever the age of eighteen years and not a party to the within entitled action; my business address is: 9601 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 400, Beverly Hills, California 90210 On___June 25 19/1} served the within. Notice of Motion For Reduction of Sentence (Rule 35 FRCP); Points and Authorities; Affidavits in Support Thereof . » . on the Plaintiff in said action, by placing a true copy thereof enclosed in a sealed envelope with postage thereon fully prepaid, in the United States mail at...BeVerly Hills, California adaressed as follows: DAVID R. NISSEN Assistant U.S. Attorney Chief, Criminal Division 1200 U.S. Courthouse 312 North Spring St. Los Angeles, Calif, 90012 | 1 certify (or declare), under penalty of perjury,* that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on_lune 25, 1971 a___ Beverly Hills California (date) v c/ dglace) 5 Subscribed and sworn to before me this Oe o Sy KATHRYN A. SCHEIBAL LL thy NOTARY PUDLIC. CALIFORNIA te, *Both the- etificatien end, proa}.o serpice by mail forms, being signed under penalty aj perjury, do not require notarization.. LOS ANCCLES COUNTY : ; iy Commission Eeaices Autust 29, 1972 Boclda: 324273630 Page 326
GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION National Archives and Records Service To all to PY these presents shall come, Greeting: By v certify o that che of the authority vested in me by the Administrator of General Services, 1 J behalf, under the seal of the United States General Services Administration, j reproduction(s) is a true and correct cop of documents in his custody. SS AMe ‘ GILBERT DORAME TEeTec Center Manager NAME AND ADDRESS OF DEPOSITORY General Services ‘Administration (9NC- Federal Records Center, NARS 4747 Eastern Avenue - Bell, CA 90201 RQ Overprint 33 (4-72) GSA ar ce 6791E 68.13478 HY 50955 DBocld: 32423630 Page 327 .
4 x (ROBERT L. MEYER. v/, United States Attorney beLeo | “/2 | DAVID R. NISSEN y Assistant U. S. Attorney ; 3 | Chief, Criminal Division 1200 U. S. Courthouse building 4 312 North Spring Stre Los Angeles, california 90012 5 Tel: 688-2406 _ 6 | Attorneys for Plaintiff, United States of America. 7 cos 8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT - OW Bal Bi 9 | _ CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA He Oe Be “LL || UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 2 No. 1175 ~“Pa-GD 12 Plaintiff, /) : } COVERNMENT' § OPPOSITION TO ae 7 ) DEFENDANT'S. MOTION TO. i4 || FILIPPO SACCO, also known ) 5 as JOHN ROSSELLI, ; REDUCE SENTENCE ~ “16 Defendant. ) So 1 a) 18 Plaintiff, United States of America, strongly opposes 19 defendant s Motion to Reduce Sentence based upon the files and ne 20 records in the case and the attached Memorandum . 21 Respectfully submitted, 22 ROBERT L. MEYER 23 United States Attorney . aA a C Saeco 25 DAVID R. NISSEN — Assistant United States Attorney 26 Chief, Criminal Division 27 Attorneys for Plaintiff, 28 United States of America. 29 30 31 32: || DRN:jt -~1- | NW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 328
~ oe NAH Pk wD NK re bo m= = 13 HY 50955 MEMORANDUM John Rosselli is actually Filippo Sacco, born July 4, 1905, - in Italy of parents Vincenzo and Maria Sacco. Vincenzo Sacco came to the United States after the birth of Filippo, his oldest child, and in 1911, Mrs. Sacco and Filippo joined Vincenzo in the United States where they resided as aliens in East Boston. Filippo Sacco completed the sixth grade in the public schools of East Boston and was discharged from school in 1917. By this time Filippo had two younger brothers end two younger o sisters. In 1918, Vincenzo Sacco died. His wife Maria and the five children moved into the residence of Liberate Cianciulli » and a daughter was born in 1920. In ‘3922, Maria and Gianciulli In 1922, Filippo had a job driving a horse-drawn milk. wagon and was nicknamed "Milky". However, in addition to his legitimate occupation, Filippo had made connections with the criminal element in East Boston and was engaged inrarcotic traffic with his headquarters: in and around Maverick Square. Cn September 14, 1922, Filippo sold morphine to a government informant named Fisher while under surveillance by a narcotic agent. On September 19, 1922, Filippo arranged for a large sale from his "source" and was present and under agent sur- veillance when the morphine was delivered. On September 29, 1922, Filippo Sacco and his “source” were arrested by Federal | narcotics agents. On October 18, 1922, the Federal Grand Jury in Boston indicted Sacco for the sale of narcotic drugs and two days later he was released on bail. While awaiting trial in the narcotics case, in Federal Court, Sacco was arrested and indicted in Massachusetts State Court for grand larceny and was released on bail on July 2, 1923. -2e "FR ieLPO-S-67-1SOM-StBS Boclda: 324273630 Page 325 fee ere mene SED + * at ‘ t " . , to : \ ee ne etapa pe Mate tn ns ee ean ea ee
oo YD A wu B&B WwW N*. & W HN - © HY 50955 service used by bookmakers across the country. “A om In 1923, while he was on bail awaiting trial in the narcotics and larceny cases, Filippo Sacco jumped bail in both . cases and disappeared from East Boston. The Government narcotics | informant, Fisher, disappeared about the same time and Government . sources believe that he may have been killed to prevent him from testifying. Because of his fugitive status, both indictments against Sacco. were dropped. After Sacco! 8 flight from his home in 1 1923, he ‘spent some. © rine in Rew York and Chicago, and finally made his appearance in. 7 Los’ Angeles in 1924 under the fictitious name "John Roselli.” Sources indicate that Sacco engaged in bootlegging and hijacking - during this period and police records show he was frequently arrested. on such charges as carrying concealed weapons, and sus- | picion of robbery. _ After 1930, Sacco became associated with the AL Capone gang in Chicago and was also closely associated with organized crime in Los Angeles. Reliable sources relate that he was an executioner ‘for the criminal organizations in both cities. In 1936, ‘by demands. and. threats, Sacco forced. his ' way into part . ownership of "Nationwide News Service," a horseracing information After prohibition was repealed, Sacco left the bootlegs ing : business and associated himself with Columbia Picture Studios. As a close friend of Los Angeles underworld leader Jach Dragna, Sacco soon became known as a labor museleman and racketeer for the movie studios. In 1943, Sacco was indicted on a charge of conspiracy to extort millions of dollars from movie producers and a labor union. Also indicted were union cfficials Browne and BiofE, and the following ranking members of the Chicago La Cosa Nostra family: Frank Nitto (aka Nitti), Louis Campagna, Paul DeLucia (aka Paul ithe waiter" Ricia), Phil D'Andrea, _ Francis Manitote (aka Frank Diamond), and Charles “cherry Nose” em PP ioLPC-B-6 7-1 SOM-3124 Boclda: 324273630 Page 330 p . o . : : 1 enema tara ornament any tA ee ene in Nhe rene pageant . : . yoy
oo NA HU FF WYN | N hb oP NM NR ON NY Hk Se om mee er ee eRe RBRRERRPRRE SSeS AA HA HH ESO ue. HY 50955 Gioe. In 1944, Sacco and the Chicago defendants were convicted and all were sentenced to ten years in prison, a In 1947, Sacco and all his co-defendants were paroled - | immediately upon their becoming eligible therefor. There were indications that their release had been secured. by bribery but | admissible evidence sufficient. for prosecution | was: not obtained. In Jaly . 1948, Sacco's parole was revoked because of his ee tinued association with known criminals and he was: imprisoned — until Rovenber 1948, when his parole was reinstated. ‘Shortly after Sacco's parole terminated in March 1954, William Bioff, a. no key Government witness at ‘the extortion trial was, ‘murdered by the bombing of his vehicle. | warned the defendants that if anything happened to Bioff while ‘(The trial judge ‘reportedly had they were on parole he would hold them responsible.) Two other co-defendants of Sacco have also been victims of gang slayings. © Upon ‘his. release from prison, Sacco returned to Los Angeles and again associated himself with a movie ‘studio. Reliable sources report that this was a front and ini fact, through his . close association with Sam Giancana of Chicago, | ‘Sacco received | a ‘the: responsibility of overseeing the concealed interests. in me Las Vegas casinos of the Chicago underworld. Sacco inmediately became a powerful figure in Las Vegas. He ‘travels back and forth between Las Vegas and Los Angeles extensively and asso~ - eiates with the known Cosa Nostra members and major gamblers. Rosselli appeared before the Kefauver Committee investi- gating organized crime and falsely testified concerning his association with underworld figures and even his own personal background. | During the period 1956- 1958, Sacco was very active in the construction and pre-opening operation of the Tropicana Hotel, and Sacco received the lease to operate the gift shop. The oe a FPI-LPC-3-67-180M-3124 Boclda: 324273630 Page 331 daannnnnnrrrrrrmrr a cee en ent a RR re ts twa rons momen cease
S) —~ / fy Nevada Gaming Control Board refused to allow the ‘Tropicana to 2 open as long as Sacco was associated with its. operation, where- 3 upon the hotel owners were forced to buy back the gift shop lease 4 at a cost of $180,000, reportedly about thirty times the amount 7 5 || paid for the lease. | a . oF _ + During the above period, Sacco also involved himself in the 7 _ production. of shows for the ‘Tropicana, but again the Gaming» | . By Control Board refused to allow hin to participate tn aye cepactey ~ 9 ‘and he sold his interest. “Following his. ouster from the = S Tropicana, Sacco sold ice machines to most of the Las. Vegas hotels || pad, poo at prices far in excess of prices on the open market. Sacco has - also received numerous "“Einders fees" from various Las Vegas” hotels and casinos for which few if any: services were performed. teen “In October 1960; Sacco and tT. We. Richardson were involved. : in placing a wire tap on the telephone of comedian Dan- Rowan in ‘Las Vegas at the request of Chicago gangster Sam Giancana.. . a In May 1968, Sacco was convicted of failing t to register as an alien and report, his address annually. In the « course of that | . trial, it was shown that birth records in Chicago, ‘Tilinois, had © ‘béen forged in eae effort to make it. appear that Sacco had been i born there as Joka Rosselli. Sacco has long been a close friend of Edward J. Barrett, County Clerk, Cook County, Illinois,” in = te coe ee ree eee semen Aloe ne ennai enter = nage . Pp yy : : . whose office ‘the birth records for Chicago were kept. Among Sacco's underworld associates. are the following: Al Capone - head of the Chicago underworld gang; Charles F. Fischetti - a Capone lieutenant; Micky Cohen - gambler and racketeer; . ' . 6 ante ee MOET git? © RAE OBR EeM Le igi abe Roh ete ae om Jack Dragna ~ leader of the Cosa Nostra, Los “Angeles, semen ae “now deceased; ne e | fe seg name Oe | Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel - member of é Murder, Inec., murdered June 20, 1947; oa . _ | we me eo arin cones ni Lemme aon C0 Cee TH, ine va peer eb FPE-LPC-8-67-150M+3124 HW 50955 Docld: 324273630 Page 337
wo NA HW & YW NDS Ne O] 13 HY 50955 | displayed fear at the prospect of being called to. testify against. him, and a number of witnesses have refused to ‘testify. : witnesses deliberately perjured themselves in order to exonerate a . Sacco, including Friedman, Vinnie Donato, Lee Deer, and Nat Ross. 7 Allen Smiley - gambler, bookmaker, racketeer; Tony Accardo ~ ranking Cosa Nostra figure; _ Momo Adams - ranking Cosa Nostra figure; and | Frank Costello - ranking Cosa Nostra figure. "Numerous prospective witnesses in the course of investiga- tions concerning Sacco's criminal activities ‘have expressed or” | In the Friars ‘Club trial, it was apparent that a cmumber e Defendant Sacco was convicted in the Friars Club case in December’ 1968 of interstate travel in aid of a racketeering | . enterprise and interstate transportation of ‘fraudulently obtained securities. He was also convicted of making a false ‘statement in - his income ‘tax return. Sacco has had a long practice of concealing. the source and nature of. his income. He was sentenced to five years in prison, . In view of Sacco" S “extensive criminal record extending t back more than: 40 years, as well as his membership ‘and participation in the organized criminal syndicate known as Cosa Nostra, we strongly urge that defendant Sacco! 's sentence not be teduced for. any reason whatsoever, He is a genuine menace to society and, in particular, to those witnesses who have testified against him. -G< FPI-LPC-5-67-150M-3126 Boclda: 324273630 Page 3353 Aone ere mereee trate satan ttl Se aE me Syme eae ly ee He oo Lee re
Q CERTIFICATE. OF SERVICE BY MAIL Lf JUNE S COKUTYAMA » declare: 3 f va That I ama citizen of the United States and resident. or em= ployed in Los Angeles: County, California; that: my business address is “office of United States Attorney, United States courthouse, 312 North Spring. street, Los Angeles, California 90012; that rT am over the age of. eighteen years, ‘and am not a party to ‘the above-entitied action; ‘That I am employed by the United States attorney for the ae tral District. of california who is. a “member - of” ‘the. Bar of ‘the: United States District Court ‘for the central District of. california, at whose. ee direction the service “by mail described ‘in this Certificate was rma EE that on -—Ss February 17. 1971 an deposited in the United States mails in the United States Courthouse at 312 North spring Ste, - Los Angeles, California, in the above-entitleda action, in an envelope bearing the requisite postage, a copy of - GOVERNMENT'S OPPOSTTION TO DEFENDANT! s MOTION - . TO REDUCE SENTENCE: o addressed to . Adrian Marshall, “Esq. ne ee Attorney at Law. re 9601 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 400° Beverly Hills, California 90210 at his last known address, at which place there is a delivery ser~ vice by United States mail. — This Certificate is executed on ‘February 17, 1971 |, at Los Angeles, California. | . I certify under penalty of " perjury ‘that the foregoing 3 is true and. correct. . a _ _ soe yp ene Fe Pliey orn ~ ‘ Hop USa-12¢c-240" (Rev. 10/19/67) HW 50955 Docld: 32423630 Page 334 echt
=2x) and Mrs. Joseph Daigle at 522 Southwest Temp, Lo discussed with Roselli the Maheu Cuban matter with which we were concerned; and <1: - "any problems:  Maheu responded that he vas of the impression that, Mei BAS be a La, To : Terry Lenzner From 3 Bob Muse . \ Subject: Interview of John Roselli z e.. prec On Wednesday February 20, 1974, Scott Armstrong, Marc Lackritz and Bob.- “Muse interviewed John Roselli at the office of Roselli's attorney, Tom Wadden, | ° . 888 17th Street, N. W., Washington, D. C., telephone 833-1440. Also present were”. Wadden's associates Bryan B. McMenamin and Leslie Scherr. Cs Me pS ‘Wadden began the interview by noting that for the first time, he, had ~ found that it presented a great problem of national security. Accordingly he had tried to reach Senator Ervin, an old acquaintance, and see if he could persuade the Senator from allowing this interview to go forward. He did not get in touch with Ervin directly but talked to a staff member in Ervin's office, whom he would not... identify. He further’ noted that Roselli was insistent upon not giving any informatior “out his Cuban activities and would rather go to jail than be compelled to testify about the matter. Thus the interview was not’productive insofar as Roselli's 4nvolvement with Maheu in 3960‘was, concerned. However Wadden did allow us to inter- woe oe ’ . "view Roselli about his background and'we reserved the right to have an executive: *, involvement, with Maheu in Cuba. (It should be noted that Wadden would not identify. his privilege claim other than saying it related to national security. )7> 0321! wilt ” session before a Senator where John Roselli’ might be compelled to testify. about his © oy a a ir re io with his sister and brother-in-lav, a Mr.- ~""'sohn Roselli presently resides at 522 Southwes: Corner,, Plantation, Florida 33314. His telephone number there is area.305 581-6585. He has been living in retirement with - them since he left jail at the end of last summer. Prior to moving to Florida he had been in the federal prison for thirty-three months, having been convicted in the Friar's Club case, a conspiracy in which he was charged along with Maurice Friedman, Benjamin Teitlebaum, and Manuel Jacobs. (He noted that Hank Greenspun had no involve- ment either as a co-defendant or unindicted co-conspirator in that case.) With regard’to Bob Maheu, he met Maheu for the first time in the mid-50's in either Washington or, California through a mutual acquaintance, Herman Spitzel. When questions were asked as to what his subsequent involvement with Maheu was, Roselli's attorney instructed him not to ar wer any questions on the ground of _ national security. 9 29.052 = “Roselli did however indicate how he and Maheu had made arrangements for © Hughes to live at the Desert Inn when Hughes first arrived there in late 1966. He said that he had received a call from Maheu, who needed to make arrangements for Hughes to move to Las Vegas from Boston. According to Maheu, no one wanted to give Hughes any rooms. Roselli at the request of Maheu left his residence in Los Angeles and went up to Las Vegas and asked his acquaintance Ruby Kolod, who owned 13% of the Desert Inn, to accommodate Hughes and allow him to take two of the penthouses > at the Desert Inn. At the time Maheu was in charge of security and responsible for seeing that Hughes arrived unnoticed in Las Vegas. Kolod acquiesced and told Roselli that the top floor of the Desert Inn would be available at the going rate, but that they would have to leave the hotel by. New Years. When the New Years date . was approaching, Maheu called and said that they had received notice from Kolod and ‘were suppose to leave their premises. Roselli then convinced Kolod to allow them . to stay. At the same time he told Maheu that Hughes should buy the Hotels end. eyoid - : 8 nite.
heart. bates want to get involved in any of the gambling businesses and would not therefore want to purchase the hotel. It was at this point that Roselli conceived of the idea of trying to sell the hotel, and approached Kolod and asked if he would be willing to sell it. Kolod replied that if Roselli could make arrangements to sell it he would receive a finder's fee. Roselli then turned around and-asked Maheu if he wanted to purchase it. Maheu responded that he would and Roselli-turned the matter over to his attorney Ed Morgam who then handled the matter until the end. Roselli also instigated some talk about the possibility of purchasing the Sands and, while he did ‘not negotiate it, received at a later date from 4d Morgan a check for $95 ,000 which . represented his finder's fee for the sale of both the Desert Inn and the Sands. —. Roselli noted that while Moe Dalitz was the owner of the Desert Inn, he.” did not negotiate with him because he found him less agreeable than Kolod. He said that he had some minor dealings with Dalitz but none of them related to matters — concerning the Las Vegas hotel industry. ~ CB With regard to Ed Morgan, Roselli met him in the middle 50's. Since that time Morgan has represented him in different Las Vegas interests. He noted that Morgan did not represent him in his Friars' Club defense(but—did_arrange—for—Jim Cantillion, a Los Angeles attorney handle’ the matter). He said that he had no trouble with Morgan's handling of the Desert Inn finder's fee, since he trusted Morgan implicity. He noted that Morgan had arranged for John Roselli to be represent by Tom Wadden, his present attorney. This representation first began on the appeal from the Friar's Club. Bo I Roselli indicated that his only present interest in Las Vegas concerns. — nis holdings in the gift shop at the Frontier hotel. His involvement there started in 1967 when he had an arrangement with Mr. Friedman. This set-up did not work out. and Roselli resigned as President of the gift shop. Thereafter he made an arrange- ment with a Mr. Breen whereby he would furnish Breen with money and indemnify him against any losses if Breen would run the gift shop. This arrangement has worked out fairly well and he continues to receive his share of the profits each year from the gift shop. He mentioned that it was his opinion that Breen had been poorly treated by the Hughes enterprises, since Hughes first purchased the Frontier. He recalls, at his last meeting with Maheu, asking Maheu to lend Breen $60,000 for the gift shop. Maheu said he would get back to him but never did. Ultimately a loan was arranged through Perry Thomas at.the Valley Bank of Nevada. Since 1967 Roselli has seen Maheu only once. And while he does not recall the date of that meeting he remembers that it was in Los Angeles before Maheu had | terminated with Hughes. He recalls that Maheu was in Los Angeles at the time while his wife was having a foot operation, and that he called Roselli to have supper. Roselli has no recollection of the conversation that the two had at supper other than that they discussed, as noted above, the possibility of arranging a loan for Breen at the Frontier Hotel Gift Shop. He said he has knowm Peter Maheu since the middle 1950's and that he went to Peter's wedding reception. His only involvement with Peter occurred whenever Robert Maheu wanted a message conveyed to Roselli. He recalls no eubsequent Svbsfactiv discussions with Peter Maheu. ; . He indicated he knew nothing about Larry O'Brien, Tony Hatsis, or Jack Cleveland. Similarly,he has no recollection of ever having met Bebe Rebozo, and knows of the person only through newspaper articles. With regard to his appearance before the Frontier Hotel grand Jury in
eect . a los Angeles , he renenbers being represented by James Cantillon a ‘Los Angeles attorney He remembers that this grand jury was convened sometime in the summer of 1970 and that his appearance took place before he went to jail, which was Jamary 25, 1971. He has no recollection of Navid Nissen, the prosecutor,ever having made a comment about Maheu; nor did he question Roselli about his recollection of his involvement with Maheu in the Cuban undertaking. Roselli had very bad words about Nissen and mentioned that Nissen had once filed with Judge Gray an unsigned and undated state- ment discussing Roselli! 3 background » which Roselli ; and Wadden both said was very Inaccurate. . eeioys < “Rosellt has no 6 racolisets on of being asked to be an informer by Nissen. : Hedoes’ remember, however, being approached by two FBI agents in 1966 about the_ ‘Possibility of being an informer. This, ‘possibility: is discussed in the court files., a —e ; a Rosell ‘peealis encoasina four or five ‘times: before the Frontier Hotel’ grand jury.” He answered questions extensively only. on the first day and thereafter ‘ appeared | at the” “request, of | Nissen. and waited_ ‘around. | : Wadden indicated that we should _ make & ‘request of Judge Byrne” ‘or ‘whoever else “might have access to those grand jury - * minutes ‘to get Roselli's testimony about the Frontier. Roselli does not recall having talked to Bob Maheu about his appearance before the grand jury. He said he had no recollection of Maheu appearing there but, after being advised by Wadden ; that Mahew's 8 eppearance was 5 well noted | An the > Paper, he said he may have read about nee me said he has 10 ‘recollection ™ or : Knowledge ‘of Bob Maheu ever making an “application 0 on Roselli's ‘behalf for reduction of Sentences . | “With, veegard ‘to politiéal contributions, ? “he has never had any discussions “with Rebozo , or had any conversations with anyone about any contributions (of over $10, 000) to a Presidential campaign. He has no recollection of the Teamsters making any substantial contributions to the Presidential Campaign. Similarly he has no knowledge of Terry Thomas making any contribution. , , Rosselli has no recollection of ever discussing with Maheu any of Maheu' 8 problems or contacts with the Administration. Specifically, he does — _ not. recall Maheu ever talking about Stans or. "any involvements: Stans may have oa had with Thomas or Greenspun.” 3 ES od, vere ae ‘RE ie a = . ne 7 “He: ‘new ‘nothing ‘about any use of stolen stocks. “oe . nr es lee -. SAPS With “regard “to. Jim Crosby, Jack ‘pavie’ and Mary carter Paoint ‘Co. he knew nothing. Similarly. he knew nothing about Jin Golden. He had no ‘knowledge of Bob: ‘Peldguin or. Intertel's involvement at "paradise Islands Wadden chimed in by noting that he had been an old associate “of Hundley and had gone to Paradise Island with Hundley ¢ about 7 years ago to look at the Paradise Island ‘set-up. ory wae ‘Rosell has never talked with or met Jack Caulfield.- Nor does he 7 pecall’ ever having any private individuals interview him while he was in jail. He recalls however, that three officers from the Immigration Department once vis- {ted him’and told him about the detainer that was being held om him. Similarly, while he was in _dail, the IRS interviewed him in Los Angeles about the finder's fee he received in the Frontier Hotel. ‘The investigation may have related somewhat to Maheu, but, since it was so short, he does not recall what the discussion : : _about Maheu concerned. “He noted that no one has ' ever asked him about Danner, _Rebozo or r any t members of the Administration. re
AW 50955 Docld:32423630- Page 336 With regard to Hank Greenspun, Roselli has known him since the 50's. The ‘last time he met Greenspun was when he ran into Greenspun in Los Angeles shortly after he got out of prison, at which time they talked a few minutes. No questions were asked and there was no discussion with Greenspun about his involvement with Maheu. He noted that Greenspun } has never questioned him about any matters. He noted that “he has never met Gordon Liddy, Howard Hunt or any of the Cuban Americans who wére involved in the Watergate break-in. He said however that he has been Liddy once, and that was at Terminal Island when he was acting as a prison librarian. There were no discussions with Liddy. He is fairly certain he - has never met Hunt with regard to any CIA involvement of his own. He also noted that he has never had any property| or business dealings in Cuba. ; yet The interview concluded with the serving of a subpoena upon Mr. Roselli and the decision to hold a further meeting under oath at a jater date. “a: a ee er ame sae mea ner eee © ee em cam Se emia ee ee ee ne ae ce ee a: et
To 2 Terry Lenzner From: Bob Muse : \ Subject: Interview of John ne wo On ‘yeanesday ‘February 20, 197%, Scott Armstrong, Mare Lackritz and Bob., a Muse interviewed John Roselli at the office of Roselli's attorney, Tom Wedden, ” *. “T° 888 17th Street, N. W.;_ Washington, D. C., telephone 833-1440. Also present wer - Wadden's associates Bryan E B. McMenamin and leslie Scherr. ne oS ; * Yadaen began the interview by noting ‘that: ‘for the first. ‘time, he. had _ discussed with Roselli the ‘Maheu Cuban matter with which we were concerned; and feo found that it presented a great problen of national security. Accordingly he had” tried to reach Senator Ervin, . an old acquaintance, and see if he could persuade. the Senator from allowing this interview ‘to go forward. He did not get in touch with Ervin directly put talked. to a staff member in Ervin' s office, whom he would not . identify. He further noted that, Roselli was insistent upon not giving any informatior about his Cuban activities” and “would ” rather. go to jail than be compelled to testify _ about the matter. Thus the interview ‘was ” not* “productive insofar_as Roselli's -  dinvolvement with Maheu, ‘in 3960 | was. ‘concerned. However Wadden ‘aid Allow us to inter- ‘view Roselli. about his. background | and. ‘we “reserved, the right ‘to. “have. an executive: = session before a Senator | where. John. Roselli might ‘be ‘compelled to testify. about. his’ involvement. with Mahew’ in Cuba.” (It should be noted that Wadden would’ not identity’ his privilege claim other. ‘than saying it related to. national” security. ):_ " oa “John Roselli. ‘presently resides with his sister ‘and “brother-in-law, “a Mr. and Mrs. ‘Joseph’ Daigle at 522. Southwest Temp. Corner, Plantation, Florida 33314. His telephone number there is area: 305 561-6585. He has been living in retirement with _them since he left jail at the end of last summer. Prior to moving to Florida he had been in the federal prison for thirty-three months, having been convicted in the Friar's Club case, a conspiracy in which he was charged along with Maurice Friedman, ‘Benjamin Teitlebaum, and Manuel Jacobs. (He noted that Hank Greenspun had no involve- ment either as a co-defendant or unindicted co-conspirator in that case.) oo With regard. “to ‘Bob Naheu, he met Maheu for. the first time in the mid-50's in either Washington or California through. a. ‘mutual acquaintance, Herman Spitzel. When questions were asked as ‘to what his subsequent involvement with Maheu was, Roselli's attorney instructed, /bim not to, answer any questions on the ground of. national security. ” ae S. “Roselli dia however indicate how he ‘and Maheu “had made arrangements for - Hughes to live at the Desert Inn when Hughes. first. ‘arrived there in late 1966. He said that he had received a call from Maheu, who ‘needed to make arrangements for Hughes to move to Las Vegas from Boston. According to Maheu, no one wanted to give Hughes any rooms. Roselli at the request of Maheu left his residence in Los Angeles ‘and went up to Las Vegas and asked his acquaintance Ruby Kolod, who owned 13% of | the Desert Inn, to accommodate Hughes and allow him to take two of the penthouses - at the Desert Inn. At the time Maheu was in charge of security and responsible for “seeing that Hughes arrived unnoticed in Las Vegas. Kolod acquiesced and told - “-.* Roselli that the top floor of the Desert Inn would be ‘available at the “going ‘rate, . but. that they would have to leave the hotel by. New Years. When the New Years date was approaching, Maheu called and said that they had received notice from Kolod and “were suppose to leave their premises. Roselli then convinced Kolod to allow. then . a to stay. At the same time he told Maheu that Hughes should buy the Hotels’ sand avoid il. any problems. | Maheu responded. that, he was of the Ampression | that, Hughes .¢ didn tee Pa te HW 50%
want to get involved in any of the gambling businesses and would not therefore want to purchase the hotel. It was at this point that Roselli conceived of the idea of trying to sell the hotel, and approached Kolod and asked if he would be willing to sell it. Kolod replied that if Roselli could make arrangements to sell it he would receive a finder's fee. Roselli then turned around and-asked Maheu if he wanted to - purchase it. Maheu responded that he would and Roselli turned the matter over to his attorney Ed Morgam who then handled the matter until the end. Roselli also instigated some talk about the possibility of purchasing the Sands and, while he did “not negotiate it, received at a later date from %d Morgan a check for $95,000 which . represented his finder's fee for the sale of both the Desert Inn and the Sands. - Roselli noted that while Moe Dalitz was the owner of the Desert Inn, he’. aid not negotiate with him because he found him less agreeable than Kolod. He said that he had some minor dealings with Dalitz but none of them related to matters __ concerning the Las Vegas hotel industry. ee a With regard to Ed Morgan, Roselli met him in the middle 50's. Since that time Morgan has represented him in different Las Vegas interests. He noted that o Morgan did not represent him in his Friars’ Club defense(but—did_arrange—for—Jim : Cantillion, a Los Angeles attorney handled’ the matter). He said that he had no ; trouble with Morgan's handling of the Desert Inn finder's fee, since he trusted Morgan. implicity. He noted that Morgan had arranged for John Roselli to be represent by Tom Wadden, his present attorney. This representation first began on the appeal from the Friar's Club. . . os Roselli indicated that his only present interest in Las Vegas concerns. his holdings in the gift shop at the Frontier hotel. His involvement there started in 1967 when he had an arrangement with Mr. Friedman. This set-up did not work out and Roselli resigned as President of the gift shop. Thereafter he made an arrange- ‘ment with a Mr. Breen whereby he would furnish Breen with money and indemnify him + against any losses if Breen would run the gift shop. This arrangement has worked | F out fairly well and he continues to receive his share of the profits each year from the gift shop. He mentioned that it was his opinion that Breen had been poorly treated by the Hughes enterprises, since Hughes first purchased the Frontier. He : recalls, at his last meeting with Maheu, asking Maheu to lend Breen $60 ,000 for the 4 gift shop. Maheu said he would get back to him but never did. Ultimately a loan was arranged through Perry Thomas at the Valley Bank of Nevada. aut me, - Since 1967 Roselli has’ seen Maheu only once. And while he does not recall the date of that meeting he remembers that it was in Los Angeles before Maheu had terminated with Hughes. He recalls that Maheu was in Los Angeles at the time while his wife was having a foot operation, and that he called Roselli to have supper. Roselli has no recollection of the conversation that the two had at supper other than that they discussed, as noted above, the possibility of arranging a loan for Breen at the Frontier Hotel Gift Shop. — . _ He said he has known Peter Maheu since the middle 1950's and that he went to Peter's wedding reception. His only involvement with Peter occurred whenever Robert Maheu wanted a message conveyed to Roselli. He recalls no aubsequent Svb5 fastiu discussions with Peter Maheu. - He indicated he knew nothing about Larry O'Brien, Tony Hatsis, or Jack | Cleveland. Similarly. he has no recollection of ever having met Bebe Rebozo, and | knows of the person only through newspaper articles. With regard to his appearance before the Frontier Hotel grand Jury in ce a SH SR tn te Sr HW 50955  DocTd: 32423630 ° Page'340°.
wa t Los Angeles, he remembers being represented by James Cantillon a Los Angeles attorney Re remembers that this grand jury was convened sometime in the summer of 1970 and that his appearance took place before he went to jail, which was Jamary 25, 1971. <= - He has no recollection of Navid Nissen, the prosecutor,ever having made a comment about Maheuj; nor did he question Roselli about his recollection of his involvement with Maheu in the Cuban undertaking. Roselli had very bad words about Nissen and mentioned that Nissen had once filed with Judge Gray an unsigned and undated state- ment discussing Roselli's background, which Roselli, and Wadden both said was very | '. inaccurate.’ - / © “4 Roselli has no recollection of being asked to be an informer by Nissen. Hedoes remember, however, being approached by two FBI agents in 1966 about the. ‘possibility of being an informer. This possibility is discussed in the court files. Roselli recalls appearing four or five times before the Frontier Hotel’ _ | grand jury.: He answered questions extensively only_on the first day and thereafter - appeared atthe request, of Nissen and waited around. Wadden indicated that we should "make a request of Judge Byrne or whoever else might have access to those grand jury “| minutes ‘to get, Roselli's testimony about the Frontier. Roselli does not recall having talked to Bob Maheu about his appearance before the grand jury. He said he /-s had no’ recollection of Maheu appearing there but, after being advised by Wadden \.: that Maheu's appearance was well noted in the paper, he said he may have read about ite: a eee a Jil yee a an He said he has no recollection or knowledge of Bob Maheu ever making an . “application on Roselli's. behalf for reduction of sentence.. “With regard to political contributions, he has never had any discussions. ‘with Rebozo, or had any conversations with anyone about any contributions (of over $10 ,000) to a Presidential campaign. He has no recollection of the Teamsters making any substantial contributions to the Presidential Campaign. Similarly he has no . knowledge of ferry Thomas making any contribution. — , oR, Rosselli has no recollection of ever discussing with Maheu any of ‘is, | Maheu's problems or contacts with the Administration. Specifically, he does 2" not recall Maheu ever talking about Stans or any involvements Stans may have had with: Thomas or. Greenspun.) 23° 8 02). “i + >. He knew’nothing about any use of stolen stocks. With regard to Jim Crosby, Jack Davis and Mary Carter Paoint Co. he knew nothing. Similarly he knew nothing about Jim Golden. Dose - ‘He had no knowledge of Bob Peliquin or Intertel's involvement at vic) ,Paradise Island. Wadden chimed in by noting that he had been an old associate ' “of Hundley and had gone to Paradise Island with Hundley about 7 years ago to look at the Paradise Island set-up. — . offre Rosell has never talked with or met Jack Caulfield... Nor does he _. recall ever having any private individuals interview him while he was in jail. an He recalls however, that three officers from the Immigration Department once vis- *°  4ted him’and told him about the detainer that was being held on him. Similarly, while he was in jail, the IRS interviewed him in Los Angeles about the finder's fee he received in the Frontier Hotel. ‘The investigation may have related somewhat to Maheu, but, since it was so short, he does not recall what the discussion ~ about Maheu concerned. He noted that no one has ever asked him about Danner, ‘"“Rebozo or any members of the Administration. © 2°80 i= —— i wag - 4 neh we +
With regard to Hank Greenspun, Roselli has known him since the 50's. The last time he met Greenspun was when he ran into Greenspun in los Angeles shortly after he got out of prison, at which time they talked a few minutes. No questions were asked and there was no discussion with Greenspun about his involvement with Maheu. He noted that Greenspun } has never questioned him about any natters. He noted that “he has never met Gordon Liddy, Howard Hunt or any of the Cuban Americans who wére involved in the Watergate break- in. He said however that he has been Liddy once, and that was at Terminal Island when he was acting as a ‘ prison librarian. There were no discussions with Liddy. He is fairly certain he - 1s dhectechdeembeemiuttiint dita othe, se! ine ns emerald cree amet. a gerengeerennee oe HW 50955 “poeta: 32423630: sPage. 342. has never met Hunt with regard to any CIA involvement of his own. He also noted _ that he has never had any property or business dealings in Cuba. — Spe The interview concluded with the serving of a subpoena upon Mr. Roselli and the | decision to hold a further meeting under oath at & iater date. em eee eg na one og eR ey ET cn en tee oe meneame mete Se a ere
Ta eae = eT Werte ban aeelties tate on ET Reautt: EN AEs Ge nar pie RG ony Caan teem pms mh grat rum ph mh fama ~) ON tA hk pot © eo ce NN A A BB WwW WH UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT tame ) pecerige7 . é CLERK, U.S. bistRICT COURT i CENTRAL DISTRICT) OF CALIFORNIA ie fl: oe CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, | Plaintiff, Ve MAURICE H, FRIEDMAN; MANUEL JACOBS (aka RICKY JACOBS); VICTOR G, LANDS; T. WARNER RICHARDSON, . FILIPPO SACCO (aka JOHN ROSSELLI); EENJAMIN TEITELBAUM, © Defendants, TE The Grand Jury charges: COUNT ONE §371] [18 usc NO, 1432. tet ef et SESS nett £18 U.S.C. §371: Conspiracy; -18 U.S.C. §1952: Interstate- Transportation in Aid of © Racketeering; 18 U.S.C. §2314: Interstate Transportation of Funds Obtained by Fraud; . 47 U.S.C. §502: Operating Un- certified Communication | Device 26 U.S.C. §7206 (1) Subscribing False Tax Return, } Commencing prior to June 15, 1962, and continuing. to the date of the return of this indictment, defendants MAURICE H. FRIEDMAN PENJAMIN TEITELBAUM, MANUEL JACOBS (also known as RICKY JACOBS), VICTOR G. LANDS, T. WARNER RICHARDSON, FILIPPO SACCO (also known as JOHN ROSSELLI), and their unindicted co-conspirators Ernest S, Allen, Vernall Furlong (also know as William G. Douglas), Edwin {Nathaniel Gebhard (also known as Pete Kelly, George McFarland), Alfred Mathes, George E, Seach, and Albert Pete Peterson, and Snyder agreed, confederated and conspired together to commit offenses asainst the United States as follows: (a) To travel in interstate. commerce. and use facilities . | DRN:mimsmt FPI-LPC-8-87-1808 S48 § HW 50955 Docld: 32223630 ~ Baye” BaF rn te es cen i sol eo nee ny ee ee oe
ADRIAN MARSHALL WADDEN, WALL:& RUDY 9601 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 400 Beverly Hills, California 90210 272 -921 l Attorneys for Defendant Filippo Sacco, also known as | John Rosselli. ‘UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA - nb ER @ o& FF G& OO &- GF BD 1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ) . oe NO. 1432 - Criminal (’ WwhL y 12 Plaintiff, . ) NOTICE OF MOTION FOR — L3t vs. ). REDUCTION OF SENTENCE i ) (RULE 35 FRCP); POINTS AND 14 |: FILIPPO SACCO, also known as” ) AUTHORITIES; AFFIDAVITS - 1s | JOHN ROSSELLL, et al, _IN SUPPORT THEREOF | Defendants ) 16 | iy ta Oo - TO DAVID R. NISSEN, Chief, Criminal Division, United States Attorneys Office, Los Angeles, California: PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that.On July 6, 1971, at 2:00 o'clock P.M., mn MM HF He Oo 0 or as soon thereafter as the matter can be heard, ar the Courtroom of the © %S % Honorable William P. Gray, defendant, Filippo Sacom, also known as i) ta John Rosselli, will-move the Court for a reduction of sentence entered in this te] if case, Said motion will be based upon the groumis stated herein, the nN a affidavits attached hereto, additional affidavits defendant proposes to file ~ mn before the date of the hearing, oral testimony to be wesented at the hearing, and all of the files, records, pleadings and other documents in this case. nm oe Defendant was convicted of one count of violation of 18 U.S.C. | » © §371, one count of violation of 18 U.S.C. §1952, three Counts of violation of 18 U.S.C. §2314 and one count of violation of 26 U.S.C. §7206 (1). ‘ . . i 1 eOeee cette tres My  f ytytr A oGEORS RTApe ol Defendant was sentenced to three years imprisonment and a fine 32|| of $10,000.00 on Count One, two years to run consecutively to Count One and 4 sb Retest Mareen ane an ' HY 50955 Docld: 3242393630 Page 3744 —
a fine of $10,000.00 for Count Six, and two years imprisonment to run . 1 2|| concurrently with Count Six and a fine of $10, 000. 00 for each of Counts . 3]| Sixteen, Seventeen and Eighteen of the Indictment, and one year imprisonment 4 to run concurrently with Count One and a fine of $5, 000. 00 for Count 5|| Twenty-Two. The total imprisonment was five years and the total fine was 6|| $55,000.00. | | | ai On January 18th and 19th, 1971, there appeared in newspapers | 8} throughout the country nationally syndicated articles by columnist . ot Jack Anderson alleging that defendant had assisted the Central Intelligence 10 Agency of the United States Government as set forth in said articles. _ 11 The affidavits of Jack Anderson and his assistant, Les Whitten, are - . 12] attached hereto and included therewith are copies of the columns, set forth 13 as Exhibits A and B. Exhibits A and B were published on the 18th and 19th 14 of January, 1971. Attached as Exhibit C is a follow-up column which 15]: appeared on February 24, 1971, and Exhibits D and E which are copies 16||/ of the office records of columnist Jack Anderson, which were released 17}, and published on April 18th and April 27th, 1971. : 18 The undersigned is informed that at no-time prior to the 49 sentencing of defendant were the matters set forth in Exhibits A and B 20|| of the attached affidavits brought to the Court's attention. It is the belief | 21|| of the undersigned that had these matters been brought to the Court's 22 attention they would have materially affected the sentence handed down. 23 by the Court in this case. 24 Defendant proposes to file and serve additional affidavits in 25 support of this written motion and to present the testimony of at least one 26 witness at the hearing on July 6, 1971. The additional affidavits and/or 27 testimony to be produced at the hearing may relate to he financial ability 28 || of defendant to pay the fine of $55, 000.00 as well as the condition of 29j| defendant's health. | . Fs a SO] ///f nr 2, i | | IT 32 /// — a ae 2. | HY 50955 Bocld: 32423630 Page 3745.
Mo ht Oo 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 52 RO DATED: June 25, 1971. oo oO QO oO fF wD HF eerie enone © a @ POINTS AND AUTHORITIES fons - Rule 35 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. - United States v. Ellenbogen (2nd Cir.) 390 F. 2d 537. Respectfully submitted, ADRIAN MARSHALL WADDEN, WALL & RUDY Attorneys for Defendant, Filippo Sacco, also known as John Rosselli i . D 5 ee cere warie satit 5b ups OAR SOD Dighton» mem
AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF MOTION -. FOR REDUCTION OF SENTENCE AND REQUEST FOR. EVIDENTIARY HEARING CITY OF WASHINGTON ) OS ) ss. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ) following: 1. I ama nationally syndicated columnist writing under my own by~line. For many years prior to the death of Mr. Drew Pearson, he and I wrote a column known as the "Washington Merry-Go-Round". | 2. I wrote the. articles attached hereto as Exhibits A and B pertaining to certain activities performed by John Rosselli, the Defendant herein, on behalf of the United States Government. | 3. “The information contained in said articles was made available to me by persons employed by the United States Government who, in the past, have supplied ne with accurate and truthful information as pertains to other subjects. A. After receiving said basic information, my staff and I. conducted an impartial and independent investigation regarding John Rosselli's activities as destribed in Exhibit A, which were performed at the behest of Agents of the United States Government. HW 50955 ‘Hocld: 32423630 Page 3470 eee RE JACK ANDERSON, being duly sworn, deposes and says the ; a
5. The aforementioned investigation Satisfied me that the facts set forth in Exhibit A are a truthful account of Mr. Rosselli's activities as described. therein. Sworn to before me this 17th day of @fme, 1971. NOTRRY PUBLIC nn Mey Cones caner aypesce Mack 34, 1997S ae) Die ai * wlle pot BW 50955 Decld:32423630 ‘Page 345
AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF SENTENCE AND REQUEST FOR EVIDENTIARY HEARING | CITY OF WASHINGTON  ) oe, . - _ +) ss. a DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ) LESLIE WHITTEN, being duly sworn, deposes and says the following: a . il. I am employed as ‘principal associate of nationally- syndicated columnist Jack Anderson, writer. of. "Washington Merry- Go-Round". | . : og 2. I worked on certain articles relating to John Rosselli, and services performed by him on behalf of the Central | H ‘Intelligence Agency, an organ of the United States Federal Gov- ernment. | 3. As part of my investigation, I twice called William | K. Harvey, a retired Central Intelligence Agency official, now of Indianapolis. | 4. On my first call, in January, I asked Harvey if it were not true that he had personally intervened with the Justice Department in order to mitigate the government 's prosecution of Rosselli on the basis that Rosselli had done a-formidable service for his country. Harvey said "this is a long Story . . . I don't think it ought to be printed." I asked him whether it was not true that he had a high regard for Rosselli. "I still do," he earnestly replied. | . 5. In pursuing the story further, I called Harvey again in Indianapolis in February and asked him whether he could | comment on our story about Rosselli which by now has been pub- lished widely in the United States. He declined to comment. But HW 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 349 0° °° 0)
@ © e he twice reaffirmed his "high regard" for Rosselli. I advised him I was making an affidavit on Rosselli's behalf. and he ex- pressed concern for Rosselli, asked his present status and said he would "follow up" on Rosselli's. behalf from his end. | 6. Based on my part of the investigation, I am satis- fied that the facts set down in Exhibit A, appended to the Affi- davit of Jack Anderson, are a truthful account of Rosselli! s activities on behalf of the United States. LESLIE WHITTEN Sworn to before me this 17th day of June, 1971. Qed F. Qn NOTARY PUBLIC _ , Mack 31, 19 7S Vip Cerramesin “pees ace ° HW 50955 DocId:32429630 Page 350” gE
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o Oo 8 &@& a -» eo WwW Poe ew eH HP eo oe 209 oO fF OD HF O js or) HY 50955 nw ©») DO) WY NY WY DW FH oa on fF AG Ww KF Oo a7 ol 52 - Beverly Hills, California 90210 ADRIAN MARSHALL: __ WADDEN, WALL & RUDY 9601 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 400° 272 9211 Attorneys for Defendant UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT. - CENTRAL I DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA NO. 1175- PH _ UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ) ~ / Plaintiff, yo _.» MOTION FOR REDUCTION ae a >) — OF SENTENCE AND v3 WBe REQUEST FOR EVIDENTIARY - FILIPPO SACCO, also known : a as JOHN ROSSELLI, | | —s | Defendant. Defendant FILIPPO SACCO, also known as JOHN ROSSELLI,. by his attorneys, | ADRIAN MARSHALL and WADDEN, WALL & RUDY, requests this Court to grant a hearing for the presentation of oral testimony ‘and other evidence’. in support of defendant's Motion for Reduction of Sentence entered in this. ‘case. As grounds therefor defendant alleges: l. Defendant was convicted of six counts of violation of Title 8 U.S.C. Sections 1302 and 1306 (a) and Title 8 U.S.C. Sections 1305 and 1306 (b) and sentenced to six months on Count 1 and thirty days on Counts 2 through 6, all to run concurrently. | . 2. ' ‘On January 18, 1971, the mandate was spread and defendant was ordered to surrender to the United States Marshal at noon on January 25, 1971, for direct delivery of defendant to Terminal Island for service of his sentence. 3.0 On January 18 and 19, 1971, there appeared in newspapers through out the country nationally syndicated articles of columnist Jack Anderson alleging that defendant had assisted the Central Intelligence Agency in an -]- Boclda: 324273630 Page 352 *
va t assassination attempt against Fidel Castro. Attached hereto as Exhibits A: and B are Xerox copies of said publications. . | 4. _ At no time prior to the sentencing of defendant were the a matters referred to in Exhibits A and B brought to the Court’ Ss attention, | De _ At an evidentiary hearing, defendant will present oral testimony and other evidence in support of this motion related to the matters set forth in Jack Anderson’ s column which defendant feels will materially affect the . - Court’ s ; reconsideration of the sentence entered in this case.” ne es 0 oO Vaan er & wD HB | 6. oe | On or before February 19, 197h, defendant Proposes to file a oO and - serve additional affidavits in support of this written motion. - oa ns = Hoo yn Dated: February 12, 1971 i ra) Respectfully submitted, | ‘ADRIAN MARSHALL WADDEN, WALL & RUDY "By » hg on f pat SAGO "ADRIAN MARSHALL _s,. _ Attorneys for Defendant. — bY DM YM YP eH RP Be Ep ao oP oO 6 oA aga hk EW 50955 Docld:32473630 Page 353
p. 7-8 p. 10-11 p. 12-15 p. 17 p. 20 ‘p. 26 Pp. 27 p. 35 p. 44 HY A 50955 Docld:32423630 Page 355 BS Sy RYQ47 June 24, 1978 Testimony of John Rosselli before Committee Senator \Church presiding Los Angeles Rosselli first met Maheu in approximately July, 1960, pursuant to a telephone call from Maheu. At their first meeting, Maheu told Rosselli that a high government official had requested that Maheu recruit Rosselli to "fight Communism 90 miles away from Florida" -- to recruit Cubans to assassinate Castro. New York Rosselli had second meeting with Maheu and went to New York in September under the alias of John Rawlston [Castro was in New York at this time]. Rosselli met Jim O'Connell of CIA, plus "three others." Florida O'Connell, Maheu and Rosselli met in Florida hotel approxi- mately one week after New York. Rosselli introduced Giancana to Maheu. Also introduced X (Trafficante) to Maheu. Obtained permission from Maheu to bring Giancanainto project. Rosselli recruits Cuban #1, Rosselli's cover was as Wall Street businessman. Rosselli and Maheu agree on a $250,000 price tag for the job. O'Connell never met Cubans. Trafficante, Cubans and Maheu met. Maheu brought $10,000 and poison capsules. Rosselli told Giancana about CIA involvement to keep his mouth. ' ghut. Rosselli only had one discussion with Giancana. O'Connell called Rosselli after Bay of Pigs. Met in Florida not long after Bay of Pigs with William Harvey, O'Connell and Rosselli. Harvey told Rosselli that he wanted Rosselli to have nothing to do with Maheu and not to use Giancana connections. Rosselli indicates that pro-Castro people in Florida probably had inkling of assassination attempts. During Missle Crisis, Harvey asked Rosselli to see if "they" had any intelligence on us, on. the missiles. STEN te Be & ee ren adem if m4
p. 68-70 p. 71-75 p. 76-78 p. 79-80 p. 81 p. 82 p. 84 p. 85-87 p. 88 p. 89 p. 90 HWY 50955 Docld: FBI agents Hill and Dodge met with Rosselli and his lawyer, Cantillon, At this time Dodge informed Rosselli that the FBI was aware that he was not a U.S. citizen. Dodge indicated something about Nevada and some other secret organizations. Rosselli met with Sheffield Edwards in 1966 for some drinks and discussed his problems with the FBI. Rosselli received a telephone call from an FBI agent, Jack Barron in June of 1970. The agent informed Rosselli that his appeals can be reversed. He was told that his lawyers and friends can't do anything for him in Washington. Rosselli talked with Bill Harvey prior to his testimony before the Select Committee to see if Harvey had objections and Harvey only suggested that Rosselli protect those people whose lives and whose families might be jeopardized by his. testimony. Rosselli stated he did not know the five so-called Watergate burglars -- Hunt, McCord, Barker, Martinez or Sturgis. Roselli had no doubt that the Cuban operation was on behalf of the CIA and not Mr. Hughes. Rosselli stated that his Cuban contacts were never informed . ‘that this was a CIA project, but that he represented a Wall Street business: ‘In the period 1967-1968, Rosselli failed to register as an alien and faced criminal charges. Rosselli describes how he is brought into the operation -- Maheu's contact: and O'Connell's satisfying him that they were government representatives. — Rosselli stated that Sheffield Edwards was not overly concerned with the FBI's contacting Rosselli. Rossell's reason for not informing his sources that it was a CIA operation was because he believed he would be more successful doing what he was doing by representing big business. When the FBI contacted Rosselli in both 1966 and 1970 they hinted that they wanted Rosselli to provide information about United States gambling interests. 32473630 Page 356
p. 44 p. 45-46 . p. 47 p. 47 p. 52. p. 52 p. 54-55 | Pp 58 P. 59 Pp. 61 Dp. 62 p. 64 p. 66 After the Cuban Missile Crisis, the whole operation came to a halt and Rosselli said he was never in contact. with the Cubans again.. Rosselli met Harvey at Dulles Airport in Washington after the Missile Crisis, in June 1963, and had dinner with him in Washington that night. Rosselli mentions FBI had him under surveillance for several years. Roselli has two stories re Rowan wiretap from Maheu. Maheu told him he wanted Rosselli to get some bail money for two guys in Las Vegas who were in trouble and he had placed some taps in Rowan's room because 1) Maheu was doing Giancana a favor, and 2) Maheu had the authority to see if Giancana was leaking to his girlfriend. Rosselli arranged bail money for the two men who were caught tapping Rowan's room. Giancana laughed when Rosselli discussed tapping incident with him, but gave no clues to the reason for the tap. Rosselli:'met in New York with O'Connelland Harvey in April 1962. Rosselli states to the Committee that he felt the CIA came to him because he has contacts in Cuba. Rosselli states he took on "project" because it was the government; he was patriotic. Rosselli knew Trafficante before "operation" started. Rosselli maintained some contact with Maheu after Harvey took’ over. : ‘ ; , Rosselli still is social friends with Harvey. In April or May of 1966, Rosselli was stopped in the street by two FBI agents with note saying to meet him later. Rosselli referred them to his attorney, Mr. Cantillon WW 50955 Boclda:3274273630 Page 347
' Writed Dtates Senate. SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES (purRsuANT TO S. RES. 21, aTH concrEss) WASHINGTON, 0.C. 20510 po _ Howard-- In re your “battle plan" memo to Hart and Garn, I think you should consider possible wis mm of our Committee making some kind of : very low-key anouncement that we're doing something. Purpose would be two-fold--to prevent getting wholly co-opted by new House Committee (and agencies making a claim that since House 1s doing it, they can ignore us---also to put House on notice there 7 | is specific area we have carved and will ‘eontinue to carve out for ourselves). Most important, we must do something affrrmative to insure that the sources out there come to us. | If we say nothing, potentials which just go to House. under assumption that that's the only thing going on. Attached is the type of low-key someone could say/ in response to an inquiry (which I assume Spencer gets lots of). Mike
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