Jo AF pp kg . AS se 2464 48 2 3 is “oy Be by da be 63 Mr. Goldsmith. I£ you had the cryptonum would that not i) refer you to all the person's projects? — Mrs. Scaletti. No, because you could use an old crypto- nym and keep it on even though he is on different projects oe as that don't have a cryptonym. Mr. Goldsmith. Do you have any reason to believe that on ‘oD 7 | Oswald may have been a KGB agent? Mrs. Scaletti. That is what probably came to my mind when I read the information that he was in the Soviet Union and came out with a wife and then he was in contact with the 1] | Soviets in Mexico because that would be standard operating | 12 | procedure for the Soviets to meet someone. in Mexico. That is ; . & nn i) | the only reason I would ‘have believed so. id Mr. Goldsmith. Do you have any reason.to believe that 15 | oswata had any type of relationship with the Central Intelli- 16 gence Agency? al Mrs. Scaletti. No, none whatsoever. a Mr. Goldsmith. . When you had access to Oswald's 201 1g | file you saw no indication in there that he had any type of. 40 relationship with the Agency as an agent, source, asset, et 3] cetera? | \ Mrs. Scaletti. No, none whatsoev er. There certainly 73 | would not have gone out all this cable traffic if anybody along | | the way had known he was an asset. You would not have gone out | a with traces and things. | | - | 001772 oe Saar Me a ee ~ oy gay {- : i q HW 50955 Docld: 32277223 Page 66 i
> fun oD i) to 12 bs i) wn? 3 re HW 50955 DBoocld: 3 a ee : “4 AA 4 an : Mr. Goldsmith. If he was an agent would you have. noti= fied the Mexico City station? - Mrs. Scaletti.~ Yes. | Mr.’ Goldsmith. Would that. normally be done as a matter | of standard operating procedure? i Mrs. Scaletti. Yes. Then somebody would be very upset | | Station because the Chief of Station is responsible for all | | he ; | that it was an agent in Mexico without telling the Chief of | | operational activities in his area. Mr. Goldsmith. Do you know whether .the Mexico City | station was ev er criticized for failing to obtain a photograph, | of Oswald during his stay: there? Jose “Mrs. Scaletti. No,-I don't. : ‘Mr. Goldsmith. Do you think it is unusual that. Oswald after having made five or six visits to the Soviet and Cuban ‘compounds managed to avoid being photographed?. Mrs. Scaletti. I don't know whether you can say he managed to avoid being photographed. What you can say is that we have not found a photograph or we don't believe we have. hour a day operations. Sometime the person maybe goes to the bathroom or they miss something or the person comes in early : { | or a person comes in late or you just get a shot, it is the ; } back. i Mr. Goldsmith. I understand that. We have a situation 001773 ; t i i t i i \ t i I a | ea ha, | pre8 ga in i _ found a photograph. Also, the photographic LPs are not 24 i | } |
we ida, |. | 65, i where Oswald made five or. six vistis at least. Apparently = ‘> * | he was never photographed. Mrs. Scaletti. Then if he was not photographed, he was not photographed. un da a) eet ented Mr. Goldsmith. I understand. Do you think that it is 1 unusual that the Agency station would have gone on for soxlong Mrs. Scaletti. I don't know... I would say I would have | | i ~ il ’ | with regard to Mr.. Oswald? - reg | I I i { thought the likelihood -- if I had gotten all the take from all} | 19 the people, because the photographic LPs sometimes did not. give you all the photographs that were taken, they would give you what they got -- but if you got every negative from every | | © a 13 | shot from every camera during those times I would have thought | you would have had a photograph. What you might have had were | shots. that were blurrred or backs of heads or something that 1 [you cou not identify. | i “ section would do that I have no idea. Besides, that would be | } the Soviet Branch. We wouldn't have had anything to do with it. — _ ae a : 001774 ° ce ra A a RG ast s HW 50955 Docld:322977223 Page 66 ; aa Fi Ss mug, 7) Mr. Goldsmith. Do you know whether Owsald was ever 13 | debriefed by the CIA when he returned from the Soviet Union? oe 'Mrs. Scaletti. I have no way of knowing that. I have | = | no reason to think he was. | a} Mr. Goldsmith. Would it have been standard operating | @ a? 29 procedure to have interviewed him, debriefed him? | -_ 3 | Mrs. Scaletti. That hs nothing to do with the DDO. what | i i : i
athena a a é S ‘S a rere ed Pa , ia QYhuTgs °° Mr. Goldsmith. I am talking about based on your experi~ ~ z ence at the Agency. Apparently he would have been someone of : interest. He worked at a radio cadtory while he was in Russia. | Mrs. Scaletti. I don't know how much about how the 5 : Soviet Branch handled it.. What they were interested in. I 6 | realy cannot answer that. ; H Mr. Goldsmith. Do you Know the name of Alexis. Davison? a : Mrs, Scaletti. Alexis? | a Mr. Goldsmith. Alexis. 10 _ Mrs. Scaletti. No. in ‘Mr. Goldsmith. : 12 Mr. Scaletti. No. . -@ oes 13 Mr. Goldsmith. “Precilla Johnson McMillan? ii : isto Mr. Goldsmith.” eh Mrs. Scaletti. No. Tae Mr. Goldsmith. “George DeMoreschild?. a | Mrs. Scaletti. No. F | Mr. Goldsmith. 3. Walton Moore? rae Mrs. Scaletti. No. | 2 | Mr.. Goldsmith. “Morris Bishop? cs - 22 . Mrs. Scaletti. No. , mo af Mr. Goldsmith. Do you know whether David Phillops ever n4 | used the name of Morris Bishop as an operational: alias? ~ Bi Mrs. Scaletti. I have no way of knowing. . | = AT 001775. WW 50955 poctd:32277223 Page 69 d fe i ~
HW 50955 | (eeu : 67 at ‘wd he uel 5 - Mr. Goldsmith. . Have you ever used any operational ND | | aliases? 3 | Mrs. Scaletti. I guess so. Not a regular one with any 4 particular person. | x. Goldsmith. Let me ask you this then, again based i) on your general experience with the:-Agency. Is it customary 7 _ . | ? for someone over the years to use many different operational | 8 | aliases, as many as a 100, for example? rH : . | a r oo . 10 people could change. It depends on the sensitivity of the plac | | | w or how.small it.is. You could use the same operational alias -with three or four people or you'could change operational j | 13 | aliaes with every single person. i fe | | | | | | | 5 { | | | | Mrs. Scaletti. A 100 sounds like an awful lot. Some e { | | | t ‘Mr. Goldsmith. If you changed it for every single person: } 1 { 1§ | you would have a tough time remembering which one you used for 1s | wnien particutar individual. 8 17 Mrs. Scaletti. No, you really wouldn't because, don't 1a | forget, it is like handling members of your family. If it is 13 a surveillance team of course you-would use one name with ten j : 29 | ox 15 people, whoev er is. on the team. Say you handle ten 2 people with an alias. That is just. like talking to ten of sa | your children. Youare not going to forget that. 3 | oA lot of times it is only a first name alias. Then when 2 | you move to a different city or different station either you | can use the same alia all over again with different people or age . DocIa: 3ho77223 Page 70 | ie i AN . ag 85 F A
HW 450955 rn) ae Le 1) on Bocld: emezecc [eet a AT SS 33 _ like to thank you. very much for:giving us this interview time. pee yo oe ow ‘ein abe hoaes 68 Miss. you can use a new alias. These are people you are talking to every single day. It is not like remembering "gee, what didi I call myself four moriths ago when I talked to so and so." Mr. Goldsmith. I would ‘I have no furhter questions. We have gone over the hour that I originally anticipated. As I said atithe outset the Committee at a hearing nor- mally gives the witness five minutes to make a statement. This] is not a hearing but if you would like an opportunity to make a statement at this time, please feel. free to do so. Mrs. Scaletti. The only think I wrote down when I thought you were a little confused, not confused but I didn't think you had a real fine appreciation: for, was the organiza- ; t tion of the Agency and how we move around... Why can't I remember '63.versus "65 unless where I sat and who. worked with me in | i there is something that happened, like I know maybe where I sat when I got married or things like that. You can be working on a desk one day and that morning you are asked to go to another desk or that morning you lose four people and then you are without somebody and within the last year when I was back from overseas I sat at the same desk but I had a couple of different bosses. The desk under me rotated, twice. At one point I only had three people working under me. Another time I had 20. It is 001777 So it is very, very volatile. TAD 277223 Page 71? re ne \ tn :