404-10217-10217] i § i waft a, . F could go back gad check, The only thing I do need as I say, Exuume. ji &% batter cover than I have, rw: nae as I went along. Scheer eo Fortunately, we would hope ‘thet not too many people are going to compare the story. The other thing,the final thing- <- the reason z. must Inve 3 within) / (you're) 3 sone idea sata reasonably short period of time about what;gag? interested : in” what you're thinking D a, eheeyonatnk- is hecaueae I have to go ahead and make up my mind what © n I'm going to do about the Atlantic Monthly-—— if anything, the Encounter though’ even how I handle BH thing, 7! I think 2'11 just maze ie. Encounter thing - a@ sort of first person account of Revolution, more or tess, debunking the — sort o press, There was another proposal that I do another, rticle for Atlantic Cut under a pseudonyz,.™ words~ Monthly, ‘debunking the th in Bur § in other, m8 showing the -there. “ 4s and > penetration charge, showing how little penetration actually,,how small the tie , par - groups gas acto in terms of the pane they involve. That wag the thing. RE eourse I could do anyway, But the reason I want amt to do this, gi have a very serious financial probler. I acm Y oning —e out of my brother-inlaw's largesse which is ceasing, and I have not been able to find any work here. I have tried seriously for several months, without any success whatsoever, and so this financial thing, you know, imposes Of m6 & Very, very close deadline. I need some money very quickly. Gs personally curious about your reluctance to write on the recc,)) ; The FPCC business is siuply domestic ia the United States. There were many people involved in it, who were (had) nothing to do-- like poor Walter Bow whom I knew very well, in New York, before he was arrested, with the TT ae How, Walter is no Communist and never will be a Communist, though Walter is perfectly capable of noyonly blowlag up ) the Statue of Liberty but shooting anybody in the United States necessary, he feels, to secure some sort of end to the type of oppression that he feels. Gast ,) e 6 e @ How this is not ccmmmamsen 10 ether words, I wouldn't wante=, the type ene could agaée doy, ; of thing to do,again with ‘the PPCC thing, the same type of thing I Se would do with Revolution. You gust take the statenents of J. Qdgar Hoover and contrast them with the reality ~ Hoover made a statement once about the F PCC showing a curious coexistence~ a curious cooperation between frotskyites and Communists. Ia actual fact there was a violent battle Kherd “Dip e re) . going on between the two. ‘What was’ actually done by the Committee was . ‘generally done by people who had nothing to do with the Communist Party fpa Pe whee Sy MUISTE a: Lin Pets whee nor with the Wz FWP Era Certainly ‘at one tine the Trotekyites tried to pee 8 + SOVIET TERED. ERROR RSET — —eNeremenrEtOIRO ys gEMERARSNETUME Se! a cay mates rme tee 9 ste cet Bt ee rth. tee ae ameneatiliinanaemmeneanmen tn ptnateesnmenntiiiitecasteoan ome ‘ 1 . oer , . edt ‘ ¥ a tp wee The Ae aft ne —
14-00000 Se , -4 . 6d @ cman : | take over §-==e in fact |” thay D. came very close to doing £8x 50. In other vords this $9 raises a totally different question. That's why I just want. : don't want to go from one to the other, © unless you {asextretersutedsiaf: a general line of debunking. - ween I know what he has in his mind. He has the) ; xxgenarxi idea of sort of an inside story of conspiracy. Inyactual ( sort of - fee ‘ he thing it’ se just a story ofp blundering and opportun-- well, sort of. if t adventurism without-f%@ many of the things that are certainly imagined, | . | é iously the you know, thoxasust&htzee did rally together very, very strange people, =x youth . Tmt -, . Ce militant, gasee » in other words ‘Simp all excitable left- wing elenent& ; : a 4 im the United States, are people who were not in any organization, gathered =-the Cuban Revolution? | around the FPCC. At a curtain time there was a romantic tig about @aze———" an=ettupies, it appeagled to students, in particular it appealed te such Fegroes, Ze appealed in far less degrse to some of the older people bf. | the old Left, who were in the Communist Party, who had been in the Communis7” EPA ROLEA hd Mee VIDAL TOPE 8 FTE ATPL RIDE Bb BOLI WORE" Ata Mah Tebeneraiaaeee Wen Ey ee Cthasy } Alois Fo Party, were & very frightened of it. _-Hot—oaly they had had the McCarthy . experience se behind ther, but that wasn't the main reason, at was simply . ] that they had, I supppose, realy put behind them this sort of effervescent i leftismg, which they would call infantile leftigm. And this thy feauggenn : eut of the FPCC I suppose so many things have happened, I mean, now ~Guwmiax Oswald was a ecrewball and certainly had nothing really to do with the Committee. In fact the true story about that I don't know, and I don't think anyone else does know. But certainly it is nevertheless normal that a person like that would, have been attracted to the FPCC.: 7 People ‘like that- - g¢'s attractive (to them)- = How if you took the Riis group. The SIR attracts | poopécedthocthat aie: . ER ERIS Ne delat, Ee ey EMA Rh tn tah 28 Silent oy ot, erg tony: the Left element and you find people in SNIK=1 know that a ve targe number of onthe. people who were in the FPCC gmi are Ease in BRAK and the SNIK Res people, for instance, were the biggest consumers of Revolution in the South. But at the same time, this {doesn't mean that they are Coamunists. It means that many of them are, if you will, anarchistg= types, or people ib Repeat who are @2m@@%st disgusted with the orthodox Communist party; in other wp Tha f OUT ys (fF words they don’ t ‘see any particular hope/. This is another thing, that most of the sntz people were, and still are, non-fiolent, ~ Cenig y Ne Lad Kaven though they were interested in viclences@k and revolution, they, have, a sert of feeling, well, as one person said, “we want to make a revolution " but we want to make it non-violent.” Well, I doen't know how they're going “even te do that. They doen't; know how te make a@ revelution. = . % f opihes ataul Free c) : Anyway, thie raises so many questions- A that’s why I don’t want te ; get involved in it. Anyway, it's too early. It's not like Revolution, which 3 gett ow yo
14-00000 i | | | | | ! g | | |. - ig @& simple thing - you can say, in an eggshell (sic). , i“ 4 @ (England as” Well smc ell . boecaamEEEep inert I‘m not like Leo Labeds | “~whofs_ can tell youfab out the history of (The FPCC continues to be wrapped in a great deal of enctionalisn, » , Oh-h-h. F (Hoxt question- what's your inclination about how to proceed vith) | Ah-h-h, I don't know how S@eu=er really I came to England. I was = eto, TES fF sort of fed up with the situation in Freuce, anyway. la_aweny in terms : of Revolution, long before it even collppsed, I had changed my views about = ought it angjwell, the whole thing=— I didn't know how to get out of it. And so that was solved by (laughing) by the events themselves. We- I thought that had coming here I'd be able to find some sort of work. In fact I eos been prosised by someone who is a friend of a very prominent trade unionist \he hasn't been in the country- | that he would be able to get me something = ~ but/ Exkaxe been totally” gos DAS been unable to @ carry out, bis promise. ae S Would this have been political type work?)) ; it-weegoingto_be—just=-. he was going to get me a job ag sub- editer for a while and then get me into an editorial thing. Then I tried with many different costacts hag here in public relations and so on, and had several jobs offered. I mewer had any explanation why I didn’t get them. I don't know whether it is politics, racialiem ~ although @& that Plays a role inv Is In any case, I never m=. , 71 was definitely offered here er with a job, right arcund the corner £4.@iemcemter Upper Grosvenor Street uhuze $7 ‘ foo gh HE Y “ tie “Barun Bi" company, _ the American PR firm ge called ¥ as publications director. They called me and said yes. This went on for months, negotiations aad so on. And finally she got the money and I was and I was supposed to start work for them, and then I got a letter saying z never was able to » get any reason whatever. i | introduced to a British Colonel who had become newly associated with her, Ie no. I don't know why. fe i wT find ie Fe it really, frankly, bertegyst very boring, after a certain peint. | antag who "most <== on (of Seuali> - all six Trotekyite parties, - if you're interested- - ; ne . ‘I’m not particularly keen on being active with political “f (cae 6 that fellow you mentioned)) He's got am enormous zest for this sort of thing, and a he* @ very learned. He's very KEEix knowledgeable. I don' t think, sees peter a certain point in dealing with thia sort of micro-bidlogy I get rather tired of it. But on the other hand, one has to see what one can do, within the range ef one's possibilities.