(404-10183-10410 a «(fy ee es eo ee greemenenpenge aE Se ; QREvURN FO GIA a ackground Use Onl Do Not Reprodieg | Amberg) | TO 2 WH/C/FI <2 September 1 1965 FROM : Interrogation Research Division SUBJECT : PEPEDINO, Carlos = IRD 869405 S, F, #211900 "thee IDENTIFYING DATA ~ Subject is a forty year old married male who is a ‘citizen of Cuba, . He has been cooperating with the Agency since about 1959, without receiv- ing salary and being paid only expenses incurred in operational assignments, Subject has been residing in the United States since March 1961. Subject is 201-211900, PROCEDURE _ eet 03 Subject wags given a polygraph interview at the request of(Harry WEBSTER, ) case officer, WH/C/FI, The interview was held at a covert site in Washington, D. C. on 27 August 1965, The interview was conductéd in the English lang- :uage, in which Subject appears to have limited and seemingly adequate pro- ficiency, Subject sometimes expressed difficulty in understanding certain words or phraseclogy in revicwing test questions, but generally stated that he understood definitions and meanings for testing purposes. Throughout testing, Subject claimed that he understood the test questions; during a discussion at the end of the interview, Subject stated that he found himself during tests translating the interrogator's questions into Spanish for himself ‘- and then provicing his answers, ever though he had heard the questions before -- testing and had arrived at a judgment on them,” - PURPOSE : It was requested by the case officer that polygraph testing attempt to determine the following: (1) Any connection with another intelligence service, ~eSpecially Cuban; (2) Whether Subject has told the truth about the nature of a his relationship with Rolando CUBELA and has been reporting the truth to us ¢ ubout CUBELA and CUBELA's activities; (3) Whether Subject has told the truth ubout his relationship with CARRILLO, Guban Ambassador in Paris. In addition, it was requested that testing include the specific issues requested oO for coverage in an attachment to a contact repoct dated 28 June 1965, These true name, Communist connections, intelligence or = we issues include Subject's & | a
pram ste a wae " any intelligence service or to the Castro Government. and that it should be pressed if there was any indication t to protect or advance his own business purposes. - ag an ‘indicator oritater a wedge into any i IRD #69405 22 September 1965 Page 0 security connections, relationship with CUBELA and CARRILLO, report- iny of Agency assignments and CU ELA activities, smuggling or illegal wetivities in the United States or Europe, disclosure ef GIA connection to It was suggested t be included or stressed during current testing, hat Subject might be using his CLA connection primarily The issue was not entered into'during testing. It was agreed that mercly an emotional question using the word."*smuggling’ be inserted to draw out Subject's comments or work llegal activities or exploitation of CIA on the part of the Subject. It is noted that such a question wae reserved until the very last test administered to the Subject so that there would be no. risk of emotionally disturbing the Subject prematurely or clouding the relevant intelligence issues. ° that the smuggling issue no be vulnerable to blackmail or might CONCLUSION | ! From a technical analysis, Subject's charts exhibit a’ combination of nervous tension, ‘erratic patterns, reactions, and inconsistencies through- out three separate phases of testing, The charts also’ show a marked increase in emotional disturbance and tension and progressively worse reactions as testing advanced, From the standpoint of Subject's tension and sensitivity, it is possible that Subject is practicing unusual test performance is the result of attcrmpts to withhold pertinent information in one or more relevant areas. Overall testing could not conclusively pinpoint the reactions on all questions pertiennt as deception reactions, and Subject's reactions are certain other factors which may have influenced testing, it is necessary to term To resolve the factors, it is recom- this case inconclusive and incomplete. mended that Subject be re-interviewed at a later date and that the interview be conducted in the Spanish language. It is believed that only testing in Spanish can conclusively confirm or eliminate any indications and significant In the meantime, Subject’s problem areas arising from current tests. admissions in certain areas and Subject's reactions on questions of specific ; concern to the case officer are presented in this report, although the true significance of the cited reactions may not be conclusive until a test in i, 3, Spanish can be administered. i. deception during testing and that his - unresolved at this point, Due to iv Mies Bee
% 2 &, e fa ee pT ak nd Fue Tt se Hes pens rewmegs 1D 969405 Page UI , 22 September 1965 ° The factors present during this interview that might have affected technical testing are as follows: . (1) Subject claimed to be sick, to have been feeling ill since the pree vious evening and to have debated with himself whether to fly to ‘Washington for the interview that same morning; oy (2) Subject claimed to be “in a hurry" because of “business problems" and stipulated that the interview should not take too long so that he could catch an early plane back to New York; . - o (3) Subject has a rather limited command of the English language and there are indications that a language problem may have been en- countered during testing. On the basis of these factors, Subject has been temporarily given the benefit of the doubt in testing, but by no means has been given a clean bill of health on the basis of current test performance; inasmuch as the case is considered incomplete, arrangernents should be made for a follow-up poly- graph interview in the Spanish language at a later date, DETAILS l. Specifically, Subject did not reflect consistent reactions on the general question of working for another intelligence service, but he did reflect reactions on specific questions of having a secret connection with the Castro Government, telling another intelligence service about his connection with us, having a secret connection with any Cuban Intelligence or security organization, reporting information about American Intelligence activities or representatives to anyone unknown to us, giving.false or misleading information to any American Intelligence representative, and being approached to work for another intelligence service, Subject further reflected extreme emotional disturbances on many quest- ions regarding his relationship with CUBELA and his knowledze of CUBELA's activities or sentiments, He also reacted on questions dealing with his relat- ionship with CARRILLO, On questions that used the words such as “hiding, "concealing" (inform- me Oe