19 20 2] 22 24 i 127 standpoint, I believe that is the way he said it. Mr. Brooten. Do you know what the sanctions are for violation of that security agreement? _Mr. Phillips. .As I understand it, there are no enforceable laws. Mr. Brooten. Now, with respect to and you stated that she had a previous background in Soviet work. Do you know what her prior posts were? Mr. Phillips. No, I do not. Mr. Brooten. Do you know what | prior posts | worked for Mr. Phillips. I don't recall. -- worked for me when I became Chief of Station in at a later date, but that was subsequently. Brooten. Do they have a background in Soviet intelligence? Mr. Phillips. Yes, they did. Mr. Brooten. Did ever tell you that she had any contact, either directly or indirectly with Marina Prusakova, the wife of Lee Harvey Oswald, while they were in the Soviet Union? Mr. Phillips. No, she did not. | Mr. Brooten. Did her husband ever tell you that? Mr. Phillips. No, he did not. 001438 HW 50955 Docld: 32277213 Page 129
ahw8 1 " ‘@ 2 20 2] 22 oe ‘ > 23 WW 50955 Baocld:3 12 Mr. Brooten. Do you know whether either Mr. or Mrs. had any ‘contact, either directly or indirectly, with either Lee Harvey Oswald or his Russian wife prior to their entry to the United States? Mr. Phillips. No, I do not. Mr. Brooten. You stated that worked for you - Mr. Phillips.. Yes. ‘Mr. Brooten. -- at that time. That | worked for you and he was replaced by| | Do you know the whereabouts today of Mr. Phillips. He was in the Washington area the last I | heard. Me. Brooten. ts he still with the Central Intelligence Agency? Mr. Phillips. Yes. Mr. Brooten. Do you know the whereabouts of headquarters. Mr. Phillips. He is in Washington at the Washington Mr. Brooten.. Do you know the whereabouts of 4 |. Page 130 Mr. Phillips. I do not. Mr. Brooten. Do you know the whereabouts of Mr. Phillips. He has retired from the CIA and lives in ad
ahw9 20 21 22 23 24 25 129 the Washington area. . Mr. Brooten. Do you know the whereabouts of Mr. Phillips. He is retired from the CIA and lives in the Washington area. Mr. Brooten. Do you know the whereabouts of{ ana | | Mr. Phillips. No. Mr. Brooten. Do you know whether or not: they are still in the Central Intelligence Agency? © Mr. Phillips. I believe that they still are. ‘I heard that he was talking about retirement, but I believe that they still are. Mr. Brooten. Do you know the whereabouts of Mr. Phillips. Yes. She is retired and living in Dallas, Texas. Mr. Brooten. Now, you stated that the information was circulated to the local FBI agent. Who was that person? Mr. Phillips. Mr. Clark Anderson. “Mr. Brooten. Was Mr. Clark Anderson a Legal Attaché at the American Embassy at that time? Mr. Phillips. He was. Mr. Brooten. You stated he worked with you in the Dominican Republic in 1965, is that correct? Mr. Phillips. Yes. 434 WW 50955 BDoclad: 32277213 Page 131
7 20 2] 22 23 26 130 Mr. Brooten. And that he did not mention to you that you had withheld any information from him? | Mr. Phillips. No. Of course, if it had been successful, he wouldn't have known that it would have been withheld. Mr. Brooten. That's my point. Mr. Phillips. Also, it's inconceivable to me that we didn't talk about Oswald, but it's possible. Mr. Brooten. Do you know his whereabouts today? Mr. Phillips. Yes. He's retired in San Antonio, Texas. Mr. Brooten. And when did you last see him? Mr. Phillips. Oh, two and a half months ago, two months ago. Mr. Brooten. Mr. Chairman, I have no further questions at this time. Mr. Preyér. All right, Mr. Brooten. i | ; 4 Mr. Sprague. Mr. Phillips, you mentioned that you had a i ; ; || document with you, and I think the question has to be asked since we only learned last night that apparently you were working on a book, a question obviously arises when people are working on books, whether they are attempting to do something to get themselves in the public limelight to aid in the sale of that book. So there are a couple of questions I would Mr. Sprague. like to ask you if I may. -Mr. Thone. I think it's most appropriate. 001435 WW 50955 Doclad: 32277213 Page 132
131 Mr. Preyer. Sure. Mr. Sprague. You have the transcript of that portion of about. Mr. Phillips. I haven't written any books, though I 3 the book with you that refers to the area we have been talking 5 Mr. Phillips. Yes, sir. 6 Mr. Sprague. Would you be willing to turn that over to 7 | us so that we can examine it? We will not at this time delay 8 | this hearing. If-we decide to put it in the record, we will 9 put it in the record and we will get it back to you. 10 Is that all right with you? 11 | Mr. Phillips. Yes, sir. 2 | In addition, I have the deletions as requested by the ow 13 CIA when the book was cleared. oe 14 | Mr. Sprague. Now, that is the question I wanted to is! start asking. 6 | Now, this book that you are talking about, can you 17 | just describe in general what it encompasses? : Mr. Phillips. Well, it is a chronological and geographical 19 story of 25 years of my intelligence career. ’ Mr. Sprague. And when did you commence writing this nl book? | 9 | Mr. Phillips. In June of 1975. oe 23 : Mr. Sprague. Have you ever written any books previous 24 | to that? | | 001436 | HWY 30955 Docld: 32277213 Page 133
132 have written a number of plays, stories. 2 Mr. Sprague. Is this book now completed? 3 Mr. Phillips. It has been completed for some: time, 4 | sir. 5 | Mr. Sprague. And do you have a publisher for it? b Mr. Phillips. Yes, sir. It is being actually printed now. 7 | Mr. Sprague. When did you submit this to the CIA for 3 apparently clearance? - | Mr. Phillips. I submitted some of the chapters very | | early. I wanted to send two chapters and an outline to "W New York so that the publishers could decide whether they 1) || Wanted the book. So there is a total of ten chapters, and , 13 || I sent two, and then three, and then it was finally only Noe 14 | cleared about three months ago. 1s i' Mr. Sprague. When was it that you commenced your inter- 16 | views with Mr. Kessler of the Washington Post? 7 | Mr. Phillips. About a month ago. 13 | Mr. Sprague. . What initiated those contacts that gave 19 | xise to the story? Mr. Phillips. He called me. | 20 1 Mr. Sprague. Do you know how that came about at all? 99 | Mr. Phillips. I don't know. I can surmise that perhaps - 73 || he saw me on a television show or was aware -- I give “ 24 | lectures around the country frequently, and there is often 6 25 newspaper publicity. Some of that may have reached him. HW 50955 Bocld: 32277213 Page 134
20 2) 22. 23 24 | 133 But I can only surmise. Mr. Sprague. With regard to the book, when you commenced this book, was it part of your arrangements to get CIA clearance on the book? Mr. Phillips. Well, I didn't say anything to them and it never occurred to me that I wouldn't. I planned to do Mr. Spraque. We will look at those chapters. I take it that the CIA, going through your book, asked you to excise certain parts of it. Mr. Phillips. Yes, sir. Mr. Sprague. Which you then did, and you have for us those things that they have requested you to excise. Mr. Phillips. That is correct, sir. Mr. Sprague. You know, the question does arise as to whether or not it is some advantage to you to be getting the kind of publicity that emanates by this kind of story appearing in the Post and media out there. Now, could you give me some comments about the sort of change in terms of the comments to the media and what you say here. Has this thing somewhat for your part been thought of for purposes of the advantage to you? Mr. Phillips. I was formerly an actor before I was a playwright, and there is no question that I have some sense | of publicity. Having sold this book, I obviously want it to Docld: 32277213 Page 135
y se HW 50955 20 21 22 23 25 Bocld:3 | 134 be successful, one reason being that I have five more kids to send through college. So there is no question that I am looking for an opportunity to get publicity, which will help with the book. There is absolutely no question, at the same time, that I wish that this publicity would not be a part of tee The inference that can be drawn by some readers that I might have played a role in a coverup of the murder of one of my Presidents disturbs me a great deal, and my children. So I assure you that this publicity was spontaneous and unwelcome. Mr. Sprague. I assume we are about to adjourn shortly. You understand that testimony in executive session is not to be discussed anywhere. Mr. Phillips. I do understand, sir. Mr. Sprague. THere can be no direction to you not to discuss whatever you want to, however, with others, the news media, with friends and others, but I would like to make the request -- it is not official from the Committee -- that while we are investigating this matter, and hopefully at some point promptly we can have an appropriate public hearing, I request you not to discuss anything with anybody. I also request, Mr. Chairman, that this witness remain under subpoena until further call of the Subcommittee. Mr. Preyer. Yes,Mr. Sprague, the Chairman agrees with your request of the Witness, and will repeat that as coming Cb143¢ 277213 Page 136
HW 50955 20 21 22 23 24 25 135 from the Committee, and I take it that Mr. Thone agrees with me on this, that matters discussed in Executive Session should not be discussed. And you will consider yourself as remaining under the subpoena until further notice. Is there anything further that we need? I want to thank you, Mr. Phillips, and I thank all of you members of the staff, working well beyond their lunch hour on a Saturday, which I hope the record would duly note. The Committee stands adjourned. (Whereupon, at 1:52 o'clock p.m, the Subcommittee recessed subject to the call of- the Chair.) 001440 Docld: 32277213 Page 137