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14-00000 CONTACT REPORT: : : os cle te, PARTICIPANTS |: PETUNIA; . “CHALEMSXY i PLACE & TIME 3° Metro Dupleix; 8 July 1445; Cafe Latavia, 1445- 1730 NEXT MEETING : ~ Cafe Batavia, 1730, 9guly- KerunoHED 1. Contact established, eventho PETUNIA was standing on the wrong side of the metro station and get his part of the recogition phrases wrong. Explained that he had been busy on the 3rd and thought it better to stay where he was than to leave to meet CHALEMSKY, Had prepared notes on his contacts (had had initial difficulty in finding anyone, finally called Susan George and get reintroduced into the circle). 2. Larry COX: Cox runs. & heng-out - in et n for deserters, S08 activists, resisters aud casuals passing through Paris> address is 3, re elle Jasserand - ta Pantin [Paris suburb =~ this address figured in an UNDERBID yeport on the extest of some desarters for possession of drugs]. Did not know how long this house has been in operation; vent is 1200 frs/mo [$240.]. Cox spends a lot of time making the contributions circuit to raise money to pay for the house -- mentioned : having got $100 from Sartre, some money from de Beauvoir (no figure mentioned) and (1500 fxs from Ratherine Deneuve [movie actress]. Cox also gets support. from Resist in the States and is now negotiating with Resist to get them to pick up the monthly iB. rent as a form of support. (No names mentioned in this centext.) Also gets some ‘ = & very modest support from the Monthly Review, most of it in the form of books and 4 periodicals for their political use (and presumably, sales -- if possible). Mike Spiegel of National SDS was in town this lest year, Cox said (no date) ‘and said h he would try to get them support from the States. Cox himself first came to Paris to ‘take French lessons prior to assignment somewhere in Africa with one ofthe church-identified international voluntary service orgatizations. After 6 mos of language, he decided that he wanted to remain in Paris and proposed to his sponsors that he be allowg«to work here ~ ov d among deserters and draft resisters Xthe letter of proposal described this in social ° work terms,. but Cox said he didn't hide what he planned to do and in fact let his sponsors know; he didn't expect them to approva it). The group in effect turned their heads to the political implications of Cox' work, and agreed to let him stay in Paris on salary ($240. month); they asked for monthly reports, which he has not | sent them. Of his $240, he conttdbutes $40 to the food budget of the house. There _are 20 deserters/resisters who live in the house, and PETUNIA described them as a bunch of apolitical bums. Most of the good, politically ‘minded deserters work in France to save money to buy false documentation and passage to Canada, then leave. Whose who remain behind aren't interested in politics and =. /. aren't capable of much, ‘From one girl who hangs out.with this group he got various = +) anecdotes of life among the deserters: one sends letters to Mao Tse-tung informing a him that 1000 men in Canada, 15,000 in Alaska and others in France who are preparing | to take over the US and are in training at the moment ("math class from 9=10 this a mocning") and asking Mao to send some divisions to help the invasion: another went a, on & starvation diet and saved every penny he could find (to buy his way out of France), then went off and bought a monkey ($40); another always pulls a knife on - people, and threatans to go back into the Arny 1s not allowed to play his game. From Cox, PETUNIA learned that Philip Werner is in Ganedé=— he saved enough, or was able to find someone to bankroll him, and went to sane dee PETUNIA got the impression that this was under false documentation (which can be bought for $300, ds (No names or hints of where one cen get this documentation.) Everyone dé ‘splays the usual paranoia on the subject of cra. ‘Larry | and others are positive that there is an agent in the house; they are very suspicious o£ each other and play games trying to trip each other up. They claim that within 24 hours aftez a desexter nas are rived La France, the Embassy knows everything, about . nim, ee) Cox has a - Suiss. fiancee. who plans to join him soon in Paris; she | is studying educational psychology in Geneva.with an u/i professor there who Cox said was about to set off.a vevolution in this field, They both want to go to the States, and Cox talked about going there when she finishs in Geneva.. He wants to work in a factory and get involved in organizing within the movement. . Since he has refused induction 3 timas, he expects legal action to be taken ggainst. him when he returas ‘(and wondered. whether'they' would also get him for aiding and abetting . desertion within the army). He deseribed his major work here as dealing with . deser ters and resisters, tryiag to educate them and get them involved in the movement, and in working with GIs in Germany, encouraging them to desert. A few GI's on R&R have stayed at the house in Pantin ae a | we ene ant ney Reman nneCeNt Septet ee ONE = a TPN Ninth emo wy Rte BF Te ong ne mse ARENA Re RTA oat RRREIEH hth pre eh guSEE EULrpenutigucupsronpensn pioneers
14-00000 a . geee 7 oe ¥ - -e -  Deseribed life & times in Paris as tough, but getting a little better now. Most of the deserters want to leave and none of those here are here for political reasons. Cox made a trip to Sweden last winter (by micrebus), and mat the ADC there. Said nobody likes Sweden (lousy weather, no work, lousy people eventho they get a warm reception). | 2. Ed DUBINSRY: | | | : ormer math prof at Tulane (got fired for taking part in some protest =~ on the racial issue?). Was in Warsaw earlier this summer for an iaternational mathematiclan’s conference, came to Paris and plans tp go to Cambridge and then to Canada where he has a job offer (in Moantreal®, While FM#y ia Warsaw, met a Polish woman (age 32, Andreajea Be=~3 married, three children; CM, . former funcationary of the PZPR but forced out because of Jewish origins), and Dubinsky. he is considering marrying her. She has asked him to come back to Warsaw and live. Ee mentioned a strong possibility that he would be invited to teach or do research at the Univ of Warsaw (apparently something of a center for higher math), end said for personal and professional reasons he'd love to go — this would be sometime around 1970/71. Thinks of living in the UK or Israel with his new Polish wife after that; probably UK. Dubinsky was quasi~invited to a meeting here with the Viets, which is why he was in Paris. Before leaving the States he got letters of introduction from Reber Grscnes cee and Mel Ralak Rothenberg to Mme Than Van Pham. Dubinsky had been contacted by Dubinsky about a meeting of mathematicians with the Viets ‘co discuss the state of higher math in Vietnam and life in general" [this apparently said with a straight facel], which he billed to PETUNIA as an apolitical meeting "to prepare for © American-Viet relations after the war". Dubinsky was supposed to meet Greenblatt in Paris, but. he can't find himamd can't find anyone who knows. him...so he's taken:to sitting in cafes in hopes Greenblatt with walk past! T£ Greenblatt and the meeting don't show up soon, he's going to leave for Cambridge. He is reluctant to contact the Viets directly despite the two letters of introduction since he says he'd not give the time of day to anyone who just appeared at his door «~ with or without letters. [His position was, reinforced by Susan George, who agreed; George added. that ‘she didn’ t know Than Van Pham. ] 3. Martha BULTYAN : oo. . . , 7 Met on 20 June (address: 4, ave. Hoche} tel CAR 42—84). Said her father John Hess had just written a book on De Gaulle and his foreign policy;. was rather proud of his father. Said “my. father would be considered to be extreme left in the US, but actually he is cautious if even a conservative in many ways." Said her parents were zaziix very suspicious and had always told” always to be careful since you never could tell when someone works for the CIA. Described her father as having a tremendous amount of knowkédge about a great many things, which is reflected in his writing. He can easily argue an opposing viewpoint, and does in social conversations for the fun of it. Whey travel a good deal, using Paris as hoite. Last year, her parents went to Amsterdam and Switzerland and are planning to go to Amsterdam again. Hess started out in 7 Latin America, twenty or so years BEOe At one time he worked in Cuba making - cigars or something (PETUNIA: that's a direct quete!); speaks Spanish perfectly. Martha commeated: “of course he is very sympathetic toward radical youth and the revolutionary movement in general, but has a critical spttit." He supposed to be very strict about not imposing on people he knows, and would never send one friend to contact another. Had cinner one night (apparently recently)? with Mary McCarthy and husband (chez Hess). Commented McCarthy is very bourgeoise; “her husband is quiet and looxs like Clay Shaw. McCarthy feels that the NVNese have handled their propagaada rather badly on the war, and Hess agreed (no i elaboration). > Martha ds sympathetic towards the deserters and resisters in Paris, says ‘there are 13 or 14 who are the real committed ones, but about 60 who are in the Paris "movement group’. MeCarthy apparently has pretty good contact with the movene nt, ang is at least in contact with some resisters; said that she'd mentioned Cox's name once. Martha works tor SDS maa New Orleans, but is tired of their. rhetoric; she can't stand PLP people. Mentioned Sue Munaker (another PETUNIA contact) had written a 40 page essay oa “the Kouens Liberation Movenent to be published in some forthcoming book on the studéit left, Martha knows : . . ’ . : 1 .
14-00000 be Suisan GEORGE: . Met Susan George on 24 June (address 42 xv. du Cherche-Iiidi; ; phone number LIT 48-01). . Discussed banning of PACS last October: she said the leadexs of the MDPL (Claude Bowrdet) suggested that PACS members joingd the MDEB; thecz hed been no little hesitation after the French had tossed Croyell out but people wexa now gravitating toward the MDPLwhich 1s composed of individuals from almost every political grouping. The MDPL's basic issue is of course ~ Vietnam, though at bkse the movement is committed to an anti-imperialist, anti- _ capitalist position. George deseribed it as a very flexible organization with | . _ ho structured leaders or administrative committees so kz it can avoid the _ bureaucratic indecision of old PACS leadership groups., MDPL members are developing “political consciousness” and have passed the point of regarding the Vietnam war as just 2 ‘mistake’, George, herself, was working at the American College at in | the Registrar's offices said there were about a half dozen radicals in the. College, she knows them and is sympathetic toward their efforts. Claims the _ schools administrator is a “paranoic dictator". She resigned after the — principal of the school accused her of ' ‘conspiratorial counseling”. Has done translating work, but pm& prefers more “active” and less ' ‘confining" jobs, She has received an advance from Beacon Press to write a book on A4nericeans deserters in Francee When PETUNIA asked her where he income really came from, she replied that she lives eff her husband! The tone of the conversation with her, PETUNIA commented, was ‘very pro-UNeseg she said they havea offered ' “magnanimous gestures to work with ithe fAherican people after the war is over" e.. Feels that they are handling ‘the war hd the negotiations brilliantly. She frequently sees “her Vietnamese - friends" » and they have told her they are very satisfied with the progress of ithe struggle and its certain outcome, Mentioned that she would see her friends .the next day to get their reactions/approval to a cireular prepared for idistribution -advertising the 4 July meeting. Also said she had just talked - | iwith her friends last night about the meeting. and was sure that they would ~ approve the circular. Misc: she made a tape for Pacifica Corp on “the war and resistence, you knowees ",. said that a Paris law atudent wka is giving legal help and dvaft counselling to resisters in Paris (!)3 name not mentioned. | said that last year she was mostly tied up with PACS and dida‘t work with dN "Marxist Studay Groups". Plans to go to the US in August to visit her mother. _ . that ' " have a couple of colonies in Toulouse. ee a 5. John Zak LNU: i oo So Fa . eserter from Army whom PETUNIA met in the Luxembourg by | | chance, Caaimed he was in security in the Army and was one of two who had... broken a Russian codes because he had.a German girlfriend and had gone off . £or several weekends with her (AWOL), he was thrown in jail. Left about a . year ago, he said, and has been in France for 7 months. Has no money and . +: £ew pessessioass; is looking for ways to get $300 with which to buy papers to ' go @o Canada where he wants to settle. White in France, he has been living off xich old women. Was living in the ADC house in Pantin but got thrown > out because he was an acid~head and was bringing pot home. (PETUNIA commented - you have to be pretty bad to get thrown out of that house.) Claimed to be from Cleveland, originally. . Shid that some French movie actress puts up the money for the deserters’ house and contributes to their funds, PETUNIA described his as a real crackpot ‘and potentially dangerous, Has no place a to ace in Paris and is thinking about going south for a while; mentioned | - "Met on 2 July. Solas asked about. the movement in the States ' and concluded ‘that the radicals can't afford to bicker Like children (with weference to the SDS/PLP split. Said she thought the PL position with respect to the NVNese and the 1 war was ridiculous ome made no other comments en the American movenente ee - Said that vhat happened to "Max" was regrettable, but that . his tactics | were deplorable. He virtually snubbed his | nose at the French | polices oo “Said that she felt the Americar movement, had largely forgotten the war and that more work against the war was being done in Paris than in © the US, Mentioned the Paris movement was pretty well coordinated and ready to go with coordinated demonstrations to time with those held in the US, last. - £all, but the MOB simply failed to keep in touch with them. Said that this Was no fault of Dave Dekllinger's, whose credentials were impeccable, but he AINE ge Gn a pe ese st oe i ut i op
14-00000 eo Me does need an oreenizational secretary behind him, Nevertheless, she lamented the feet that many people from tha old PACS were frightened away after the French banned it (afraid of losing passports ox being tossed out)» and not everyone had joined Bourdet's butfit. 1 Anti-Vietnam Meetings: 3 On 24 June, a group collected at Claude Bourdet's home. to use his eddvess file to send out invitations to the 4 July meeting. Bourdet’s address file comprises approximately 1,500 names and addresses; Bourdet commented that he hed a separate file for French communist party members, Working at the meeting were Susan George, Dean Savage, Ralph Fischer and Elizabeth LNU [Adler?]. Fischer Sccegea is a physics teacher at & Jr. College in Brooklyn; visiting Paris. Savage is married to a Yugo%éav girl; he writes for the Guardian, about 25 years old, clean skaven, bright but cold. On others, see above. On 3 July, another group collected te work up posters for the ° meeting. Involved thea weres Cox, Dubinsky, Elizabeth LNU, Susan George, Jolas, a deserter, a resister and 2 girls. No names for the latter four. PETUNIA picked up the info that the deserter wes from Vietnam, he held a factory job, his father is a good friend of Westmoreland's. Oa 4 July, the meeting took places - it alternated speakers and texts: one hour, someone read the names of American war dead; second hour, someone read from texts provided by the Vietnamese. On the latter point, there was a last minute change of tactics by the Viets. The original idea had been @ political wake for the American dead end for those in Vietnamese villages | bombed by the Americans. Thus: the names of the war dead and the names of — bombed villages would be read out. At the last moment, the Viets told Susan George that the names of bombed villages had nou. "political significance", and . instead they'd rather the meeting read aloud from material marked in red by . the Viets. George whnt along with the idea, though Jolas among others didn't. like it since it altered the purpose and impact of the meeting. Nonetheless, the Viet alteration was accepted. Very few people attended the 4 July meeting; PETUNIA wasn't impressed at all. Everyone signed two books open in the back of the room: one called for an end to the war; a second was a péedge of support to the Viets. Evergone signed, and the Vlets took this book back with then. Three Viets appeared during the day, sat quietly in the back of the room and said little to anyone other than themselves, and left not long after they'd : ‘arrived, One of the three returned that. evening to collect the signature book. — After the meeting was over at midnight, everyone | went their separate Ways o 7 8. “galt _Herve- re - eS ‘ Anecdote from Dubinsky. “Dubiasky said he first ‘mote Bes in Chana (whera Dubinsky was for a while doing social work). While there he also “met someone else he described as, at the time, his best friend. Later he heard _ fxom UxtghréHerve that his friend had been the one who killed Richard Wright. Dubinsky did not mention the name, but said the episode is deseribed in the _ bOokraphy on Wright. He at first refused to believe Julia Herva's assertion ‘but later became convinced of it. His friend never denied the guilt, and |  @id admit to being a CIA agent. Wright was killed by the CIA because he had ~ .} °° just £inished a manuscript en the use of American blacks abroad by the / - governments 9e “Others: : - @ From his ‘gizlfriend, PETUNIA learned that Rene Mayer has “disappeared”; he has apparentfy left France and no one knows where he si. be The Lancaster family wham PETUNIA met last time is now in Brazil. Ge Hsked me to check on Barrio -— nobody answers at their phone number. d. vaised the problem of his hernia and draft status <= see cable. e, schedule agreed to: he'll be back on or about the lst and will let me know via postcard (innocuous and wish you were here variety, scribbled - signature) what date he'll be back, Site and time of meeting arranged. _ . £.. Said he was about out of money; agreed to get together very . briefly ‘the following day so I could give him some money. | Paul’ Ky CHALEMSKY