mms 1mtee POF) 444 6000 ‘ ry e S LJ « t Mr. Postal. Did there coma a tima when you learnad that Mr. Mahau had an association with tha Cantral Intelligence Agency? Mr. Shimon. I learned the* in the ‘60's, and that was from the emplovees in thse detactiva agency, which was than on 9th Street. There was Johnny Frank, Murphy, any number sitting around, densral conversation, and the fact that he brought in a lunkhead, a dead {anus nuy that was strictly poison for the business, and I {nquirad what ha was doing thara, and they sai! they had to take him hecause his wifes wan verv prominent CIA and CIA was picking up the tab for thatr rant. So 1 stopped knocking tre auy. Mr. Postal. Who wan the auy, do you kanw? Mr. Shimon. 1 forgqat his nama, but he embarransad badly that I had to a9 to ‘lew York and bail out Aahaue Mr. Postal. Do you know Johnny honsallt? Mr. Shimon. Oh, Yes. “tr. Pontal. Whea die you first meet ‘ir. Rossalli? “ar. Shimon. [omit Mr. Possallt in the late °59's. there te Veyan -- 1 drove 4 Cadillac out for Nob “aheu. Ha want st a Cadillac, ha had a Lincoln, Ne was one there. Ll tradac Sis Lincolu, drove the Cadillac out for him, brouuht my wifa with Mea. Whila We Wels thera, Na Got a call from one of tha Operators that owned +- whet was the nama ef tha place that
H : hburned down -- wanted to nan him, ha wan a cliant, ant i* juste fas -- this eclfant had Milton Derla in the room. “Milton Nerlea wanted to frame Prima, Loule Prima. Me waate! to bulld a frame on him by vlanting some dopa on him. I'm listenin to this, money changed, $2,009; so when wa dot back to Aevaerly cals, I said to Hob, this is pura stuff, I don't hold atuff, pwhat are you, playing qamas? bo Nw sgayuw, yeah, I'm just taking monay, and a couple of thane “ you just qo back and write it off. And ha said, vou know, lat’s qo through the motions, let'a fint out 1% Prima ta tuvolvad in nercotics, And I made a309%8 calls, vou kyow, f udet to vor’ narent: ia Washinaton with everyhoty, “oo, and Towabet te Nod, fo went 3 ‘ ry ¢€ t ‘ ‘ 4 comection in Vacas, t didn't know anybody, S wantad a tan guv Il could tal to. He said, qo to the Danearte tnn ant as for Johnny Rosselli. So { want there and had him vated. fa gave me the ror introduced ivael! and this auy, ait he aliroat aaves me the -untdl] of mantioned another mutual friend wa had, seme bemer father-iu-elaw, Sid nang Was Spoitezlar, lerinan ‘iretler, a famous oli! con man. Mea was the man who whan Tony Martin wae i: the Navy, be was Supposad to aat Tony vromoted and W48 BUPHOBG! to cive Nim a watch am! there Waa a dle scandal a! this Wax the ame uv. Aval this warmed uaa, and = tok his woy To was there, and UT ave him the whole avtory about the
ue ieee P19 +846 4908 . * * ’ . t and all, and of course he was right in my corner then. lia said, aaa, don't hold still for that ancl any connections you want. And { said, what is the druq situation in Vecas, and I can honestly say in those days whan the Mob ran Vedas, thera were { no three's, no hold-up man, and if a druq pveddiar showad up I thera, ha was found out in thea danart. Thay didn't nead a ' { police department out thara, [ couldl sas that. fo at 3:9) or 4:99 o'clock in tha morning, I mat with i t Milton and thin othar quy, wrote tham off, nald there's nothings ! to it, there's no way you can ¢eVoer find drasa on Loute Prima, | The purposs of this waa that Nilton waa mabilnd a comeback an! head signed a contract taking Loule Prima ant his wife on, bus i they were creat performers and doina' like crazy, and t think ' MMlton was afraid that they miqht staal thea show, 80 he wWantea:! an excuse to bump them. Can We ao off ths racor 1? (Discussion otf the record.) ' Mr. Postal. Al right. Lat's a0 back on the recor’, All risst, so vou mat Johany Xosselli out in tas Vadasy, ft was ta the lets ‘54's, ! Hid vou ramain close with Johnny efterwardy? t 4r, Shimon. Yeah. Fach year wa wene hack atter the ; , couples of years, or out to tha West Coant wa had diana: tham beceauna of Herman Sotesler. Herman would alwayva onli
ra ewe 7971 $44 4000 de So rersrrr Teta mane sens eae, GROSS er iy etd gealte os Jehnny, he likad him. Johnny was trying to interest me into moving to Vedas to take ovar security, and I just couldn't huy that, and if he came this way, he would always stop and say hallo, heacause he waa Mr. Nid, not only in Vegas, he was Mr. Riq in Bevarty Hills, bacausa it is, as you might know, he's the man that made the ,famoun picture “Ha Walked by Niqht,”* but because he'd bean ta pri- gon, they never put his name on it as producer, Ha waa always mixed up in the movie crowd. Mr. Postal. When did you first come tn wlth Sam Glancana? ‘tr. Shimon. Tt mae him ter tha flrat tima at tha Fontali- bleau 4d). 196%. Mr, Pontal., Okay. iet't focus on that particular time. Did thera coma a time whe you weit to tiavi with Hob Mahe? - Mr. oshimor. fob Mahuu. ‘tr. Postal. What wure the circumstances surrcinting ther tt Mr. Shimon. > was invited by Hob sea the Matter done Johansson fiaht. This was originally a dinners Thad Bote and nan wife tor dinner. He invited me and f said no, and say wife Raid, oh, come on, you know, Bob feels bad you won't qo, aml lo said TP don't care about Piqghts. So anyway, ! changed my mind aad 2 went down. We flew down and went ehutt inte the FPontutaibeau., Me didn't evan reaiater, We wernt rictyt
maemn © kau, - es, jer. Pa if up to hia suite. Mr. Postal. You did not register? dr. Shimon. Oh, no. Wa went right up to tha fulte. Anz ii. the aulte wan Sam, Johnny Rosselli anc a fellow named Lou somabody, the nublic relations man out of Chicago. Mr. Poatal. Lacderer? Mr. Shimon. Lederer. lou was thera. Lou was on hia wav to Jamaica to look at soma caninos. The conversation, oh, for tha first Sour or two tharea wat batweann Sam, Johany ant tha casinos {tn Jomaiea somewhere and as Lou laft. Ando wa ware hanging around and! vthef tha cnoystis lat'S go out an! lst'a ao to the pool, lat'a Ho wometntine, what the hell, sitting in the room In ‘Hant.. And thay sadist, wa'te waiting for a contact. tl said whot'u the story, aml Rob so; ', all, vou Snow, we got a contract to take cara of Cantro. whet kind of contres?? Now are you goinu to do it? A hoetjya, tThia Uderuded is aonsthins: shat CEA concocted. Mr. Postal. Was it liemid? ‘fr. Shiro... We said a liquid. Tin! evan went ta toe at it, tna minute, Y hear chis, Pim @ con, you raaliva, Thev'ira talkisg about killing genubody. > don't care who ir Sf stall) waeerdset a pian. So this is ausnused to be pute ds hit food amy! hata MALES egt! to get GV) and stay 41) for two or thraa fava andl then ia,