104-10227-10011 a, on oy fy Co ; Me, narkiace ‘actually has: ‘hees! ter wihate a sinec LIAN: and tire, basis. well, the hasts does not Shov any kind ca ahs “ty put: ‘sinply, the usual marr tare cla a “inconpatintlity”. , , He Tae usual thing. . Ye had differ Bene. tenperanents, and the ‘narriase aeeualiay was teraine ated, ‘since 1948, they have | not been Living together, Al wmat else, se | ther I.had clidnged ny nind, whether I. re a Bo They aiced 1 tie: 3 questions = wae Angist on the: divorce: ; i said. 73 insisted. on’ a ‘divorce. They" asked hor questions, about her, attitude, md too" gaia ‘that. she" : 5: # . aid: not obsect to the ‘divorce, t 1° 1 \ A. I understand that;” but what else’ was. taken into-account?. ° ae ; oT B, The fact vas taken into account that we: had i not: been Living tocether for a long. walle; ‘for the court, this. is. at least a veihty thing, A. Still another fact. B. ...Aad that both sides, that she does act object. That is, of course... Both sides want a divorce. A. How did you find out that you were. supposed to be in court that day.
104-10227-10011 me! 4 . “How are ‘they, Tocelved:: sae ny. i dO" not: “remember. these detaits. : i Be doen wh CEE ‘There were sone of the fellows with ne, Weld, you “ao ‘to tire court several tines; you tid ‘out idea thie _ipan ene 1s roiny: to. be; . you tals with Shen, vith, the: secretary oft. ‘this préeinety you visit the jtidge . It 16 u0t so- easy to. see the Jude +, there are a thousand peopte, If everyone oes in to see tho Judge, thore. ‘will be no tine for him _ to hold court, . : There 16 ‘soncthing else.... 3.8 tine ‘fo sand here, te | a. the ‘when: the 0 Judge reco!ves poopie. = ‘they ¢ can- tale with nia. . , “Well,” ‘to whom: actually are: “the: staténents of atvorce civen? : “tne secretary win: uy | and. 80° forth: So. -~ the court sent a notice. ...That the case {s set ‘for such and such a date. | cl Which witnesses were present: Tho was there. ((Tsinting)) ‘ho was there- Vadin IVANOV was there; he knows her very well. There were two other fellows, also, I think.
104-10227-10011 RB. t do not snow what the procedure is: ef course, Toashed to nave this maAttcr aurrted up, walle { an in Moscow. A, You arrived from the Far Eadt offictally: or did you 0 on leave; or how aid this haprena B. TI went.on leave offictally. A. You officially went on leave, Well, you arrived in Moscoy -= that wag the first thing you did: Where did you register, as an officer who had arrived from the yar East. B. JI did not recister any where, not in the way you. ‘have in mind od not in the kommandatura or apy where ~ - I telephoried to Personnel, Spolie with: KALOSI IN; I related the regards from MEL'NIKOV from IMAU'TOY, chief of information, my: direct . . fanediate superior. A, It does not interest me whose regard you .tendored. vee B.  ((Pause) ) I said that. I was going. to he. din Hoscow, or near Moscow, ; ace ‘the, dacha, That 1 wouid not fo anymhere, even South, ae 7 oo of > A. Did you submit any kind of docunent to Personnel after the divorce: BR. No, I submitted nothing. A What -— was it not necessary - ((Did you want)) still to be nung up with a i wee whose father had been inorLaoned: : ' Yas it not necessary to clear up the case so that it vould not seen..... . 2. Well, weil, well, 1, I, I told, of course, that I hac rotten a divorce.
104-10227-10011 What kind of personal files: ‘((Long pause) ) Well, Woll, Co was on leave. When IT lerte, 1 probably patdy keowtar that © would he Arsent to May | and-June, rohauls , Sue Ver en teay, We will leave this question, Look here; ‘do you know this document. jo Uuchetu kadrov)) ((A shows 5 the lichnyy Listol: “Lichnyy Listot: po uchetu kadrov" Yes, I havo seen, I have scon it; -but I do not remeber that ‘I completed it. . ((Talking to himself:)) Tnese questions aro in. the anketa, Lut I do not remember that I filled it out; I do not remomber. Woll, did you ever sco it: In porsonal files, i enw them in personal files. © Well, for oxnapte, with what kind of personal files is this connec tod: I do not roneabor,. I saw this torn; I saw tt, Where. , Under what circumstances did you see this form. I cannot tell you. for your information, if you nad worked to tho Second Chiof Directorate, then you must know it very well and aust know with what it is connected. _-SeeRET—