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14-00000 * et SEGSET. Tes Rudy Balaban . Froms Red Bennett ’ ye” cls) Subject: Dax ter i Referense: Attashed meyer andin for the resords telephone éonversation of } this date. // SI Juc‘bs) [ Lan aurry to say that, beeause of a deadline I had to meet, the nemo for the resord was not written until several days after ay meetingE with prbsont It may be ineorrest on some details of W's history, which yea would of ¢ourse know ali about, if the story in the first paragraph does pot perfectly mateh what W. has told you, the feult is prolably mine, not Wes you might ¢ali ve if you see any TULUKX inoonsistensies. on Soviet attitudes . Generally speaking, the information ‘, gave,does not seen to xe ine jonstistent with what I heve seen from other sourees, On the questions i of sosial frietion and religion, his reply waa more *pro-Soviet® than infornation saz froa; other sourees. On the other hand, his answers on intinSentties and hie etatementa on drunkenness certainly did not east bey very favorable IX% light on Soviet soelety. Cne interesting anaver whieh I negleeted to ineiude in my memo indieated the eontimuing existence of pro-“talin sentiment, ‘ In the first paragraph of the meno, I atate that W. seemed poli tiealle val ideologisally unsophiaticated.® It probably would have been more correet to say thet he was uninterested, or unconnitted, rather than CMEREa unsophisti« ‘cated, though that was also true, Such negative references as he nade te. Soviet ideas (and there wers not many such references) seened a little ine, tended to satisfy me; they were msinly made in the first part of the inter view, before any rapport was established, If he was unhgony in Leningrad, it seened to bs because he felt himself an alien, and because he was home~ @iek for the good cld USA, not beceure there vas anything wrong with Come , munien, or anything good about American political institutions, He pres vented himself somewist as the ordinary guy who tries to get aleng; a lite, 5 ot rin a? : : atin tap one tof 8 eae
14-00000 wre . ’ at UE tees tle Mf provineial or even puritanieal in making moral judgments on cthers, aven while obviously exposed. to morai eritieisn himeetf, He described the news ef his mother's condition es having HER been a real shock to him, ; aod this seers consistent uit hie tendency to critietes drunkenness, bad language, slipshod’ work, and se forth in others, He sonmented, rather pprovingly, that Soviet ehildren really mind when they are seoldad by total strangers, whereadg American children (he thought) would not. £ eel expect that he would be a good reactor when subaitted te a poly= ! sph. Perhaps because EX he had already been questioned fer Several ; ours, he seemed to be Little guarded and jumpy, espesially when any pe BY questions seened to stray from the subject of Soviet publis attitudes, Pp the other hand, he volunteered x quite a few remarks ebout his own pase, hie owa problengs, He appeared to be worried about his chances of finding & Job, and mentioned that one old friend (who had stuek by hin tan the way") was trying to help him in this, ke then the time eame for ma to depart, 1e¢— when I had asked 221 the estions I sould taink of, he eeked if anything further was to happen that day. I said that all I now was what you hed told us when you left, that there was nothing further set upS, and that X could Simply leave when finished, He offered me a drink, whieh I declined, saying I wanted to get tone, I think he rather enjoyed the interview, or at least I the echanse to spout off his views. As my momo indicates, I wes impressed by his art Leulataneos, whieh probably resulted from his gwaying things he had thought out end prepared himself to say. I did not really erose-question hin, in the sense of tying to eateh hia aut, or probing his om motives he was willing to run on and I was willing to let him, asking new questions when he had said all he couid on old Ones» { . . ore “as etn