on i toes bat a wd. na ™ "2 Mee frowtoreesondg) oe 2 April 1963 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD SUBJECT: Conversation with Manuel Artime and. Manolin Hernandez ~ 1 April 1963 > > ee @ . 8 ~s snall aumeeemeenate 1. The evening of 1 April 1963 I received a telephone Call from Artine Saying that he was in town and desired to felicitate my wife on the occasion of her birthday. 1, of | course, invited him to come to my home and he arrived in due i course with Manolin Hemmendez, his sne-tiae “epucy in the MRR, 2.  Artime said that he had just returned from a long trip ; throush the countries of Central America, that he was bringing & message from Luis Somoza for Attorney General Robert Kennedy, ‘and had an appointment to see the latter on 2 April. Artime Said also that he was Scheduled to appear on a nation-wide oO Television Program on the morning of 4 April from New York City -.- ‘the "Today" show, I believe - and after he bad seen the Attorney - General he was leaving for New York to prepare for the program. “seen mm amet “se 3. He remarked appreciatively that he had been gratified: (te find his barracks bay intact and saic that he was wearing - ‘the shoes that he had but into the barracks bag when he Last. ~ packed it in ny Operational quarters in Coconut Grove. The fact: . | Ghat be had been able to regain his possessions from us afte _ his Long imprisonment impressed Artime with the thought fulness tO and integrity of the bags' custodians, 4. After his New York Television appearance, Artime is ‘Considering going to Spain to talk with Franco. His apparent contact with the Spanish Government is via the one-time Spanish - e* in Havana (whose name escaped me ime said, ae Was at one time of great assistance to in Havana, ! : | I told Artime that Mr. Franco was proba ¥ too predccuppied - With the base renewal negotiations with the U.S, Government to'- be ‘very interested in materially assisting any. und ing against Castro. Artime said he had heard that (leas, now in Madrid and I said hat if Artime wanted to cit » alt he had © te do was to call the Embassy in Madrid-upon arrival, Artime ' Was hopeful that his parents would be permitted to leave. Cuba for Spain in the not-too-distant future, and has had some dealings with Spanish diplomatic representatives to that end, a . a ee SPREE 49 buena RE Ham has bene sean te oe Atte One. foe a cat eeaste 2 mmatente al 9 Lipa Ri PERE RC EE ~
14-00000 3 3» Referring to the just-announced capture of 17 raiders | ; at Norman Cay, Artime indicated that he was not particularly exercised over them as individuals, but hoped the U.S. would | not be tricked into the position of busing "what Castro t i described as a protector o£ xussia and Cuba against exile | taiders." Of the exiles restricted to the Jade County area, ( To, our only mutual acquaintance was Pedro Diaz Lanz whom we ~ : agreed had for some time been so uncontrollable as to raise } serious doubts as to his mental stability. For his part, ' Artime said, he noped that. he would not be served with a , _? restriction notice since, if he was, he would depart the Y ‘U.S. permanently with an attendant blast of publicity. .* | | | i Artime that Pepe had suffered a mental breakdown, that the Robert Kennedys had rented a home for Pene. his wife and two children in the McLean area and that Artime had been with I them during the day when Mrs. Kennedy had come to the San Roman home and seen Artime, Artime learned that the San Roman ia children were driven to and from school by the Kennedys. (It 6. I asked about Jose Perez San Roman and learned from . r turns out <hat the Kennedy children, ny three children, and Pepe's two all attend the same parochial sckool on MacArthur ; \ i Blvd., so it is not wlikely that Pepe's children will seek , { |. ; . mine out as the only other Spanish-speaking children in the | 2B, school, ) ae i meee cea te tte & oa 7. When I asked Artime what fad brought about San Roman's ' breakdown emm@m he indicated that it was the result of conflicts arising from marital unhappiness and pressures on him by the U.S. Govt. to. persuade the Brigade to enlist in the U.S. Army. San Roman apparently feels in retrospect that he should have . evacuated the Brigade from the beachhead rather than sacrificing it. Artime said that San Ronan was somewhat resentful over. , , the fact that his psychiatric bill was being paid by Miro Cardona,  —_ a! Yegarding it a way of making him indebted to Miro. (In the oo context, I judged that Pepe viewed Miro as a symbol of the CRC.) | | apy At ate gtey te see mee 80 aren oh 8. Artime also said that he had seen Ydigoras Fuentes and _ Roberto Alejos in Guatemala and he suggested that Peralta's coup had been amicably arranged with Ydigoras. 1 inferred a po that Artime had also seen Peralta on. his just-completed trip. : a : 9. -Manolin Hernandez asked me about a certain "Col. Earl (Brennan" who, he said, was living or had lived at the Sheraton- Park Hotel and who was moving through the Cuban exile community looking for dark-skinned Cubans to be used in Haiti against Ghouve Eales term sutematic how i, aed ard . ++ Map Rms MDREEE O88 YH © Fmt Gore = GEOR OE OSE Sue ED Sh TO OR WE ute 46 Leper aedongnnnNUNn mt omantrorenstenee been WB
14-00000 3 Sateen) aemmeened rene at a ee a a onary Shel eporgimengtcrmeain 4 - . - 2 | SECRET & = 6 i Duvalier, “ccording to Hemandez, Brennan asserts that his | * 4 activity is backed by the White House, his link being via i Ambassador David Bruce, Brennan's cone-on apparently, is ( ° j fo tell former Brigade members that if they hely overthrow 3 i Duvalier, Haiti will be at their disposal for whatever. - G action they care to take against Castro, , . io. In answer to their question, I said that I had not . oe ‘ known Brennan in OSS in his self-described role, although } ; it was entirely possible that Brennan, Like many other | te officers, had actually served in CSS in one way or another, | 3 ' And I pointed out that Dave Bruce had been Chief of our Operations in ETO. ; . ,,. Ble | Hernandez commented that since the first of the year he had been queried by both Jose Miro Cardona ard Jose Ignacio Rasco (MoC) as to whether I ("Eduardo") was still in the U.S. and had denied any. owledge of my whereabouts, a eee eee ee fy . ’ 12, By this time it was 2 o'clock in the morning, the three of us had downed a fifth of Sentch and we regroured in _ the kitchen where I prepared breakfast for all. Before leaving, . _ Artime said he would call me after he had seen the Attomey General, _ i. Distribution: a j a en i “4 Orig - C/SAS : a CP Our 1 € Lor automatic dowrs sand declassiizafion ee a a a ee ee pean crm et eet ell aap