yW'54756" bb There | was a young man in the apartment in his early twenties who was a friend of FERRIE' Ss from the Lakefront Airport. “His name ne I remember him from when I was working out there. FERRIE had given him flying instruetions-and he told me that he had already acquired his license. | My first conversation with FERRIE centered around airport talk and about people we both knew from the airport. He said that he had often wondered what had happened to me and that he though I had gone into private practice. He said that he | knew a lot of ex-D.A.'s and they were all dumb, with a few too. exceptions. He then said that the reason that he had called us was | that he was getting concerned over our investigation. He had heard all kinds of rumors that he was going to get arrested and that he wanted to find out if these rumors were true. He said that as a result of these rumors, he had been asked to leave the | airport and now he w was concerned over how he was. going to make a living, that flying was his only enjoyment in life. FERRIE said. he was suffering from encyphilitis and that he could not get any rest because of the radio, ‘Tv and press boys hounding him to death. FERRIE said his ‘phone rings. from “morning ‘til night and that he had talked to Sam DiPino érom Channel 12 until the early t ‘hours of the morning. FERRIE said Sam was trying to con chim, but that he was too smart to fall for his line, and that all of. those people were "bastards". gust: then the phone - rang. and it wa a | reporter from the Tines-Picayne, ahd he said that. he would, positively not grant “interviews ¢ and that he was, tired of, all thos “bastards calling him ‘ep. The reporter must } have ‘old hin ‘some~ thing, because he ‘said that he was not. calling him a bastard . ae Id:32263970 Page 96.
NW 54756. | va personally, but was referring to the news media in general. He then hung up the telephone. FERRIE picked up. the Picayune paper and said he wanted to. °. show us ; portions of the story that really disturbed him. He said the newspapers can kill anybody when they want to, and that it was never more evident than in the cases of CARLOS MARCELLO and JIMMY HOFFA. FERRIE said the newspapers tried to frame both of these guys. He then talked about the MARCELLO trial that he _was working on in ‘1963, and how the newspapers tried to erudify MARCELLO. He said MARCELLO made asses: out of all of them when | he was acquitted. FERRIE said he wanted to know why we brought ae See Sanam RnR _ MIGUEL TORRES back from Angola. He said that he knew what people would do to get out of prison and he thought Garrison was trying to frame-up by using MIGUEL TORRES. PERRIE said that if this would happen, he would sue us and everybody. FERRIE said he had they wanted to help him. rms FERRIE also said he did not like the way Garrison was answering questions put to him by newsmen and that Garrison ‘should make a definite statenent and not say "No comment". ‘He gaia the "No comnien t* stirs more shit than an hour’ s ‘speech. FERRIE said Garrison knew this and that he was obviously using “this for publicity. r ansured him that Garrison was not ‘trying to frame anybody and that he was avoiding the press and a he could nots ‘Say “much less to the press than ' "No comment", | Then FERRIE_ “said he’ wanted to talk to Garrison personally. We told him we would try and arrange a , meeting in the near future.” ses ne FERRIE “then began ‘to curse JACK MAR MARTIN and ‘said | MARTIN | "started all of this stufe. -PERRIE said MARTIN was jealous of him| because of his relationship with G. WRAY GILL and that MARTIN |: was: trying’ to ruin him (PERRIE) . ; “He said MARTIN is a. screwball Do pid: 32263970. Page 97 ; . : a!
HW 54756. -DopiId:32263970 Page 98°” and should be locked up. _FERRIE- then said Garrison had better be careful because! “he knew that some people were trying to’ torpedo him; that he knew of 3 people on a local ‘level and | a couple of people on a ‘national level who ara trying to roin him politically and are trying to embarass him politically with this assassination investigation. FERRIE said he did not want to mention the names _ of the local people, but Garrison should be smart enough to know who they were. He then Began to ‘talk about FRANK KLEIN and he inferred that this man was one of the “local persons trying to destroy Garrison. However, when Ivon asked him if KLEIN was one of the people he v was referring to, FERRIE said that in time we would find out. FERRIE did say that Hoover was one of the people on a national. level who was trying to destroy Garrison ‘because Garrison has dared to criticize the Bureau and has the whole no country wondering if they are as smart as the Keys tone Kops. However, FERRIE said he was: glad about this because ‘as. far as he’ s ; concerned, all cops are bastards and that he has no use for any of them. FERRIE also said he had heard that some people in Washington were talking about the investigation and that two days | before the story broke ‘in the newspaper, some people were saying that Garrison would call a press conference ‘Friday and give the story to the press. FERRIE said he didn ' t want to give out any names as he didn' t want J. | Bagar on his ass. too. -He then asked to speak to Garrison again because he wanted ee see “if he were. serious about this whole e thing, 1 I ‘told him that Garrison was more than serious « and that we were checking | out all of cur leads and infomation. I then told FPERRIE he . could tell me what he w wanted to say and I would tell Garrison for him. FERRIE said he wanted to talk to Garrison himself ‘and: look ge
him in the face. I ‘then asked FERRIE to tell me where he was on November _ 22, 1963 and how he had become so involved in this. _FERRIE .said it was all on account of | a trip he made to ‘Houston, “Texas on the afternoon of the 22nd to ice skate. He said that all he wanted. to do was relax after the MARCELLO trial and he just. had the urge to go ice skating. FERRIE said, that as it turned out, it was the worst trip that he had ever made in his life. I asked FERRIE what he did in Houston. _FERRIE said, ~ "Ice skate, what else." I said, uy don't know Dave. You tell me." FERRIE said that I was a newcomer around the game and that. ~my office knew more about the trip than he did. FERRIE said, "Ask your boss. He had me arrested when I got back into town. I was booked as a fugitive from Texas and I have never been to Texas." I asked him to tell me about the arrest as I didn't believe we would | arrest.a Man who was perfectly innocent. FERRIE told me I had a lot to learn about life and that I was a. starry- | eyed kid right out of law school and I was still believing the - | inscriptions on the courthouse walls. -FERRIE said that after a while, when you get a little smarter, you'll see that this is a Dofld:32263970 Page 99 stinking world and that what I told you at the airport, is true. os told PERRIE that what he said may be true, but ‘that still a doesn't tell me about the arrest. FERRIE | said, "All right, I " go through the "spiel again for. your benefit. _ FERRIE said that after he had taken his trip to Texas, he and BEAUBOUEF and COFFEY : ‘stopped in ‘Alexandria cand he called. G. “WRAY, GILL. GILL told him the, police | ‘were “looking for him ; and that they 3 wanted | to ask bim- [sone questions : about ‘the assassination. He said. that then the ‘drove back | to New Orleans and dropped BEAUBOUEF oft at his i ;
HW 54756 - Do Td: 32263970 ' Page 100. - apartment on Louisiana Avenue’ Parkway s so that he could go up= Stairs and call. some girls for them. He said that he and : COFFEY then went to- the grocery store. He said ‘that when he and. _ COFFEY were / returning to the apartment he noticed a bunch of cars around his apartment and a lot of people. ‘FERRIE said he figured it was the police and so he went back to the store and telephoned. PERRIE said some dumb Ox answered ‘the phone anid é tried ‘to. suck. him into a ‘conversation, ‘but he just hung up. He said he then aropped COFFEY, off and went to Hammond, nouisiana. | ot asked him "Where in Hammond?" -FERRIE said, "By. a ‘friend. ” roy asked him what friend and he burst out Laughing and said, 1, "I! aL say one thing for you, you, sure ‘try hard. " He then told me. not |} to try and investigate him because he could show. me ‘and my wrote | office how to. investigate. I dian’ . press ‘the issue any further, but later on he told me that he did not L stay in a motel, ‘bat, with a friend who would remain. anonymous. “Besides he saia, “rt ve- got friends all over “the wor 1a. rn I said that that was very interesting, but that Ir _wanted his opinion on one other small matter. He asked, "What?" I said, "Dave, who shot ‘the President" He said, "Well, that's an interesting question and I' ve got my — own . thoughts about it. " | FERRIE ‘then sent his friend into another room to get an anatomy ‘book and a pathology book and he ‘pulled out a sheet. of paper and ‘began to’ sketch on it. _FERRIE drew a sketch of the Texas ‘School. Depository and. of the parade route » and of the a area in | general. FERRIE said that before he ‘would definitely draw a conclusion, he would have to have. nore informa- tion and facts. -FERRIE. then went into a. long spiel about the “projectory_ of bullets in. ‘relation to height and distance. 1 He a said that different guns” and shells have different projectories 7 and that bullets tend to | arop as they & are ‘shot. " FERRIE said the .