aver Communist codes to me, and documents and shit fike eee that. She worked for the Company before and she worked eS for the FBI as an undercover agent for about seven vears, oe even had her kid do shit. for them. “And she was out being a mistress for the top Russian KGB agent in New York. She. was his undercover mistress, he bought her Jewelry and booze, wining and dining her and she was ballin! him, You know, she won't Say it to anybody because it would make her look like. a whore, you know, but hey, man, she really did a job. And | took tape recordings of all that shit, kK you know, and | turned it over to our intelligence, they got it, they took copies of it ak and all that. Yeah, she's got a lot of balls... . {re clicks on tine) "That's probably the FBI buaging me, ha, ha, ha. 1 hope they cot @ court order. Hey, you know, that's how Nixon lost his 18 minutes of tape, you know the tape cap. You know | know who did it, § know who ordered it, | was told who ordered it, and | believe | know the man who x erased it. it was erased electronically. (Why?) Well, you remember there were statements | made to you and then it came out in the press about Nixon xk was trying to cover himself about the files he wanted from | CiS about the Bay of Pias and the missifes and the Kennedy >) assassitration, he ordered Helms to give it to him and ol Helms wouldn't give it to hire, Three times he wouldn' + cive it to him and then Nixon fired him for it, Well, -in that 18 and half minutes tape | think there were “conversations on that, that pertained to what | was talking about, and this ex-agent totd me, he says, "Frank, you're right, with the Statements that you made, you know, that | read about what you said about Nixen being set up and so forth and about the files and all that, well, | want to) tell you something, | was hired to erase thase tapes." And she says, "It was dane electronically. And the man who hired  . jome was so and so," Ang | got the tape recording -of it, too, eG "| (OF the guy telling you this?) Yas, sir. Hopefully, itts— STill here. } mean, hopefully it's stitl in my possession, BaexaRex you know what | mean, if | don't Go ahead and get ‘it abl erased, ha, ha. But he totd me, and whether it was ra bullshit or a lie | dont+ know, but this auy was an & ex-ClA -. kK. ascent. Well, after a neriod of time. these people get a littta- discusted with their covernmant , vith what coes cn and so forth times, and sometimes people will tetl other people, you know, which is ftimited to the people they tell, of so and so ~and $0 and sag, “ho knows, it's a funny world. | suspect one of these days ttm conna Kexk wake un and somebody is donna | ; shoot my ass, But, ney, Xk it's the name of the game. | don't worry about it,  Byt sometimes | think Pedro is right. You know he thinks the Agency is gonna kill him. He says, "I know | too much about the Agency.' You know, he thinks Artime-is a ae HW 50955. Docld: 32264840 Page 25
double agent. (Have you heard from Artime?) .Hell, no, Artime wouldn't call me. You know who called me yesterday? Howard. (Hunt?) Yeah, ha, ha, he, Howard. Here comes all Fhese press people inside the doors and Howard calls me — on the phone and says, 'Hey, sorry to hear about this, so on and sare so forth. | saw you on television, you really did a good job.' Yeah, | says, Howard, |! got all the press walking wm in the front door right now. (It's a wonder she didn't put him in this thing, too, huh?) "he "Well, she pulled a boo-boo by saying that when she ee came from Cuba she met Howard Hunt. and myself. And | called her up and | says, "You never met Howard Hunt and me! it was not Howard Hunt!? She says, ‘Well, | thought it was Howard Hunt.' 1 says, ‘If you saw Howard Hunt today sea you wouldn't know who the hell the man was! How » could you go ahead and say that@'! She says, 'Well, it don't make no difference, what difference does it make?! t says, ‘It makes a lot of difference!' | says, '! never knew Howard -at that time.’ | seys, 'Now I'm under oath telling these people, the Senate Watercate Committee that kdx | didn't cA -know Howard, | never met -- which is true, you know -- | never personally met Howard until either late ‘71 or '72 =- and you come up with a cockamante story that Frank arranged for my escape cut of Cuba and the first pecole | meet in Miami is Frank Sturgis and £—. Howard Hunt. You gotta be crazy! To say shit like that, oh God. But she wants to get in the goddamn papers. You know Howard's been hittin! the papers quite a bit. But ! says, "Why do you want to put the man in the jackpot for? That's a fie.' | says, "Them people ever ask you to take @ pelyagraph, for Christ's sake, they'Il make a goddamn lier out of you. Because you never met Howard Hunt because | never knew Howard Hunt.’ She never met Howard Hunt. At least the best as | know. Maybe in bed someplace she met him, you know, ha, ha, ha. She ‘sure as hell didn't meet Howard Hunt with mef! @ ~ 50955 Docld:32264840 . Page.26....... .- eeu tense tie we nares ga namginani bye tebe