.139 F ie. Devine, Mr. Chairman? Chairman Downing. Mr. Devine. Mr. Devine. Mr. Chairman, I generally almost without “; exception favor open sessions, open hearings, and. L didn! t IT vote to close this one. I might say, however, that the atmosphere in which, we. “took: the basic information from Mr. Sprague and viewed = “the films and So forth was in a very order ty: business- -Like 9 |] manner. I think if the Press had been permitted, here, we) _ would have had a carnival-like atmosphere. I don' Ve think _ beero oy that Mr. Sprague could have been as candid as. he has ae ee “think we are ina posture today of building our foundation, om basis from which we will launch the investigation, ~I. think it is perfectly proper to do this in. "executive "session. ‘You know they have waited 13 years after. one, 3 years after the other. [I think we need a few - more > days ee to, get our feet on the ground before we open to the peblies or think it is in the public interest and: tc L think, a oe _more respectful image of the Congress to have our. hearing. Ma the "st "Eh tomorrow as we did today, and if you want to open, at he. 1 || conctusion of the basics, then let Mr. Sprague and you, or . Whoever wants to make any statements necessary, but we are 5 || beitaing a foundation here today as I see it, Chairman Downing. There is merit on both sides as there - always is. I. tend to go slow in closing up. “Pocka:32266815. [Page
140 Foo you see anything tomorrow that possibly should be discussed in a Closed session? br. gbrague. Mr. Chairman, of course I echo what Mr. _ Devine just said. I think that the presentation has” been on a more professional level just because we have been. cin. - executive session, and I would hope that we would continue in that vein. When [I notice on here authorization for - - subpfenas, ‘I do not think it ought to be a public discussion ~~ “in terms of the issuance of subpgenas. I note. that one ‘of “the areas yet: to be discussed is taking up with the leadership “in the Congress ahead (of time now getting, making sure. that . there” is the appropriate funding. I am not a ember, of Congress, but I question how much. . “of a discussion of that nature would be really helped by - doing it publicly. 'Mr. Dodd. Mr, Chairman, may I make a suggestion? Ms 2 Mr. Stokes hit on a point that 1 intended to | mention. I see here some . question in all of our minds about exactly when we should or should not be is closed session or: think maybe the first thing we ought to do would. be. to. “nave so some sort of criteria laid out. f think more ein ome Sprague, in terms of when you believe we should and : should not be in closed session. There may be. a ‘different “set of guidelines we ought to be following ‘than what we » "traditionally follow in the Congress in terms of having |
“14 ee closed sessions. Traditionally, and my more senior: colleagues: _ here will be in a far better position to talk about this than. - iI, but it has generally been when it has been national security I} or Sensitive data involving the personal lives of! people © that that has been invoked, and I think you are talking about "something that is entirely different than what | we ‘have ee _ traditionally followed in the Congress in terms of. closed _ session rules, . ae ve: think before proceeding maybe we ought | ‘to. have’ those "criteria laid out, discuss them and then make a “decision about whether or not we ought to proceed in this manner. - Ghaizman Downing, Chris, suppose we do jo emis: ree Mr. _ Sprague and I get together. and try to come » up tomorrow _morning with some criteria that would be acceptable, ~ Mr. Dodd. I thank you, Mr. Chairman. - Chairman Downing. But anyway we will: try ‘to. come Up with it by tomorrow morning. If it is ruled closed and you. Io want. to make a motion to overrule the Chair, you are . 9 | pertectay able to do SO. One other thing. Please leave your folders cero yes |] desks ana they will be picked up by members of the stafe, “the booklets. They will be brought tomorrow. if you want “them. If there is no objection 4 - Mr. Fauntroy? Mr. Fauntroy. Zt am concerned that we have ‘alittle
“yaa better | grasp of what we are going to look at than we have : '. had today coming to the meeting, I am anxious to feast upon what you have in mind in terms of what we look at. ‘I just, wonder if it is that big a. risk for us to look ‘through ‘this material. D cnaixman Powning. It is, Walter, because you have. got "witnesses by name to be subpgenaea, and you have got the line and mode of questioning of certain witnesses, Don't you agree? Mr. Fauntroy. No; I didn't even know that that was). a |}; involved. Chairman Downing. You can see it any time | you want. "witnesses will not cooperate, oe The staff has informed me hat this room is’ not “open tomorrow but we will find a place and will notify” you. . - The committee is adjourned to meet again tomorrow at. . as o'clock in a room to be designated.  fiereupon, at 3: 20 p.m., the committee was ‘adjourned, see: reconvene at 10 a.m., Tuesday, November 16, 1506 but I think we ought not let it get out, because ‘those se