424-90147-10077 v9.1 AGENCY : RECORD NUMBER : RECORD SERIES : AGENCY FILE NUMBER : ORIGINATOR : FROM: TO: TITLE: DATE: “PAGES: SUBJECTS : DOCUMENT TYPE: CLASSIFICATION : __. RESTRICTIONS : CURRENT STATUS : DATE OF LAST REVIEW: OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS : HY 50953 Bocld: 32339364 JFK Assassination System Identification Form Agency Information FBI 124-90147-10077 HQ 105-93072-78 Document Information FBI NY HQ 08/17/1962 6 RICHARD THOMAS GIBSON PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT Secret iB Redact 10/19/1998 APPROVAL OF CIA AT 67 Page i Date: 5/27/201
REE Sonik. Rete FBI | CF ih This: uuc “rs same = 2ylag Date: 8/17/62 Transmit the following in. - PLAIN TEXT ” (Type in plain text or code) Via AIRTEL | —_ REGISTERED MAIL - oe : ; (Priority or Method of Mailing) es wit come ea a (a | “ _j FROM: SAC, NEW YORK (105-42387) @ oF & SUBJECT: RICHARD THOMAS GIBSON .; ne IS - CUBA Ele RA - CUBA cae - Re Bureau airtel, dated 5/5/62, and NY airtel, dated Om 8/10/62. a The subject was interviewed on 8/16/62, by Supervisor | HAROLD A, HOEG and SA JAMES A, DAY, in accordance with Bureau | instructions set forth in re airtels. Subject was reasonably cordialjput stated immediately upon learning the identities of. | [ine he guid prefer_totalle with agents ee NS) RE M fose GI472 -") "4 Subject stated that’ he had, fin \1953, first made a discfeet attempt to offer his services to CIA in Italy, but nothing had come from this overture.| He stated that since that time he pac & ade attempts to contact CIA buf] this was the first time uf, the interviewing agents of cra. ]G) ever realized that the contacts”were at all Mey Wants (awry RM) (Wan MAdl a9 i {genic pills ies Bek dy i New York (locy2522 ) (BERTA GREEN) #413 Le New York (100-4013 SWP) #413 aunb Ma § [27 Ka” New Yor (38- ROBERT WILE-TAMS) "ps poe Bele? , New York (100 ~114769) (WILLIAM WORTHY 7 Sons -New York (105-46848 (TED LEE) New 4 Bae 05 435 df a Bureau (105-93072. New York (97-1791 New York (97-1792 gobo of ¢ ft bt tt aD PY Sey Corton (/)) ‘A> jo TaDseant cy pssitys Teg approved: = 7 i Speciat Mg, wine et hie 5 ee | HW 50953 Daoctd:32339364 Page 2
: . O a ; : 4 ery, : . . + . . sy, . { ° . . ? eon . sos . / . > « , . : “ e - : to - . ne raselee a , . . . oo NY 105-42387 - | ? that WILLIAMS was a fugitive from justice, at which time the subject stated that he felt that the KENNEDY administration could have the Federal charges against WILLIAMS dropped and WILLIAMS could return to the US, though not to North Carolina. He stated that if WILLIAMS were "handled right", he \ would denounce CASTRO-and~the—Cuban-Government. THIS would bé, in the “subject's “Opinion, advartagesis fo the US from a propaganda viewpoint. The subject stated that at the present time WILLIAMS is..attempting to leave Cuba to go to Africa, _probably..Guinea. The subject stated that he was not motivated to initiate this contact by any specific loyalty to the US Government, but he had gcne to the FPCC because CBS had broken its promise to him and for money. He stated that he had received no money while at FPCC, and at the present time he is broke and living off his wife's unemployment check., He stated that he felt that Cuban leaders had operated stupidly and he etested stupidity. They had made mistakes, as US officials had. he subject stated that h was now in a position where he would assist the FBMMand/or cxiiin return for “TReine remunerations, but not because of any allegiance to the U The subject stated Mey he would be receptive to make a public statement that the FPCC was a useless and ineffective organization if the terms (money) oe, were right. a . , (‘the subject stated that he still hoped that CIA would contact him in Montreal, Canada, as he felt he could assist CIA — in Latin America as in his position as head of the FPCC,he could 6) more easily"get In places with leftist groups " than others, e stated that he could also help CIA arrange to meet his ‘eontacts!" : Latin erica, although he refused to identify any of these alleged contacts [SThe subject stated that there have been no specific ; threats to his life, but there have been implied threats by the - “"eounter-revolutionaries . Ox) Gy The subject stated ‘that *8 had no influence in the “FPCC, and_described TABER as"no more a Communist than I am." He stated that TABER was mixed up and had a problem more domestic - than anything else. 4 . 50953 Daoctd:32339364 Page 3
NY 105-42387 The subject stated that LYLE STUART had given money to him as a friend. He described STUART as a maverick and one who liked to be different. The subject stated further that the ‘ Cuban Government officials had treated STUART badly since they refused to grant. STUART a, visa to visit Cuba. The subject stated that STUART was an honest man who would have reported things as he saw them. The subject said that this honesty was one of the reasons for STUART being refused the visa. 4 The subject stated that TED LEE was a harmless fanatic who had been trying to take over the ‘FPCC. The subject was asked what he considered a reasonable now KU money for his services, and he stated that he did not know (4#Xu) ye GIBSON indicated that he would be willing to publicly | denounce the FPCC, that he was duped, that FPCC is a tool of the Cuban Government , that it is ineffective, and anyone still remaining loyal is just “wasting His time, or any other tact subsequently _ determined to be the most effective course of conduct. Agiowever, there was an undertone that he would be paid for any efforts in. this regard. He stated that it was his personal opinion that it would. be much more effective to use the FPCC as a cover for telligence and counter- ~intelligence purposes, but when questioned for his specific thinking in this regard, he 6yemres only that this could prebably be worked out later} 4G ‘It is pointed out to the Bureau that it is ‘the’ estimation of the interviewing agents that GIBSON is a very weasel-like character, evasive, opportunistic, with very little or no moral fiber at all. However, he. has been reasonably well accepted by practically all segments of the radical left movement in NY, and to a limited extent in other cities. He is well acquainted with a group of what he considers to be young Negro intellectuals, but it is conceivable, if handled properly under some circumstances, ~he could conceivably prove of some value to this Bureau. 4 -GIBSON, in the opinion of the interviewing agents, “very obviously lied concerning his knowledge of » subsidization of the FPCC on the part ban Government. During the inter-. . “view the specific quest 1ong Ow Long has it been since he has ve a oF yy 5 , : : : . ; . . on are i - CEC ue \ | t HY 50953 DBoctd: 32339364 Page 4
NY 105-42387 SECRET - TWO 2p a g received any money from the Cuban Government; ® ¢ GIBSON replied, "Oh, it's been a long time...I mean never sifce I've had anything to do with the organization..." Obviously GIBSON answered before oe he realized the full import of the question, and then attempted to pee backtrack. In addition to the above, there were many other areas a where GIBSON either lied outright, or was extremely evasive in his answers ° ray (\ The interview was concluded on a reasonably cordial basis, and the door left open for a recontact. It is the opinion of the NYO that GIBSON should be recontacted and interviewed . within the next week or so, at which time a specific program could © be worked out with GIBSON for disruption and ultimate dissolvement of the FPCC.. It is pointed out that the NYO is fully cognizant that currently GIBSON ‘is serving as little more than a figurehead in the organization, and if he would merely drop. from the organiza- tion, it is quite likely that the SWP or other radical elements would immediately fill. the _vacugnal created by his resignation. Y ‘Following the next contact with GIBSON, the NYO will submit the detailed results of that interview, ineluding its recommendation for both a tactical and strategic plan to be implemented to disrupt, dissolve, or at least neutralize the FPCC as a subversive organization. Re () No specific commitment: or other deal for payment for - GIBSON's services will be made during the next coritact, but the NYO's recommendation in this regard will be furnished with the results of the second intervie ft is noted. that GIBSON requested hat he be placed in contact with CIAy]Jbut the NYO is recommending (S) at this request be held in abeyance until such time as a final determination be made as to whether GIBSON with his background could be  ©° exploited by this Bureau. For the further information of the Sureau, the recontact of GIBSON will take place under reasonably identical circumstances, in a NYC hotel room under secure conditions. The NYO is closely following this matter, and the Bureau will be kept advised of all developments. “Og oe) ; ee) rr aan} HY 50953 DBoctd: 32339364 Page 5