TESIT, “George March?) f262 622 -¢ SD/L to be with the Naval Intelligence. He claimed that there vere tvo military intelligence organizations at the time, the Naval and the reound Force military type. _ LEG OSWALD TN RUSSIA (e) On 23 February 1961, as SURJECT approached the table for a the evening teal, he noted that the Time magazine lying on the coffee table in the living room had a picture of Maric OSWALD. As he sat dom he hit the table with his fist and enid, "I fecl that TI could have sbopped Of WAL i", AG this point Special Agent Stanley C. LACH asked him "howi". He proceeded to state that he (SUBJECT) was head of the KCB Tourist and Visitors Section whieh kept control over the activities of OSWALD while he vas In the Soviet Unio. Ne sald at the time, OSWALD wae of no special concern or inberest to the KGB because he lacked intelligence backeround. Therefore, when he applied for permission to leave Ruscia, they (KCB) under his (supakcr) direetion tuformed. OSWALD thet he vould have to weke his applicetion through the appropriate channels of the State Department, who in ‘urn would request his.releace from the Russian counterparbs in handling of vieas. This he caid wis all done for propaganda .cnd show purposes. Te went on bo etate that if they really wanted to release OSWALD, 1b could have been done on the spur of the moment, but sinee OSWALD had nothing ‘and we nob worth enything, they docieed that this was an opportunity to chow the American State Department that they did not mind releasing Individ- utile if they applied for releare through the appr opr: a te channels Prior to this application for veleace of OSWALD, the SUBJECT stated that sinee he was of no particular interest to them and there was nothing in Moscow that they could uy: a ay for. or place him Inte, they decided that they would send -Qoy ATID to Mack whera ho vould be placed fn a factory working on radios in the hope that.sone training. in the ‘electrical and clectronie field might result in his development tnto an electronies engineers hovever, he choved no capability in this field. Phe PUBIECT then stabed that it vas Just at this perlod, before sending OLVALD to Minsk, that a very ctrange thing happened. a SWALD woe supposed to have a me bs ing wi th a travel. agent in regard to preparations for his going to Minek at “hy o'clock In the afternoons At G o'clock he still did not report to the travel agent, so the travel agen decided to go to the hotel where OSWALD was stay tng to see if he eould locate hin. When he got to the hotel he asked the clerk Lf OSWALD SECRET =3- HW 53294. BDocld: 32366704 Page 4
BESNIK, Gannga Af |262 622 ¢ SsD/1 vas in his room, the clerk nodded affirnatively, and the travel. agent proceeded to OSWALD's room. He tried the door, but the door was locveds He Imocked, got no response, and then with the assistance of the ele ok they broke into the room and found OSWALD lying across the bed with both of his wrists slashed. The travel agept and the clerk responded dmmodlately by taking OSWALD to the near-by medical facility whore he was given blood trousfustons and after a period of time regained his whreugth. During the tuyvestigation the following day the SUBJECT? plated that the doctor indicated that hed OSWALD not been found for approximately ton more minutes, he vould have been dead. a2 3s hore that the SUBJECT again pounded the table and gaid if the travel arent had nob broken inte the POOH a, but had instcad contacted the Fob offtes ° like they are Instructed to when they do not get ony response fron people qith whom they have apoointwents, that he (SUBJECT) would have most likely directed the travel agent to forget abouts him, and on the following day or later that cvoning he vould have gent one of the KGB agents to check on OSWALD, at which time he would have been found dead. This, he went on to state, is what burta hin when he realizes that he could have been instrumental in disposing of ~OSVALD without any speci al daquiry or serious tevestivation, “OSWALD being nothing, and at the same time ‘beday the Prete of the United babes, President KIGNUEDY , would be alive. The SUBJECT then went on Lo state theb after OSWALD was sou bo vltingk 1% was there thet. he ot Marie. Iike himself (osyatD) , Marie was a girl froma peacar’. family with no special background and soncyhat diliterate., Ty was because of her poor background that she was given permicclon to marry OSWALD and return to the United States as.his wite. The SUBJECT then went ¢ o to describe what ‘book place on the day that Prosident KENNEDY was assassinated. He catd that this was actually on Saturday In Moscov, the Pend of Movenber. Ne win ‘ho me at the tine and happened to have the radio on, when he lieard that the President of the United States. had been acsaceinabed. — Appre daantoly one hour later, the yadto informed lim that the aocasein wae T Thig announcement, he faid, really stunned hin. He grabecd his daghned to his office. Tamedtately wpon his avrival he searchod for the OGVALD file. When he Fourd the file he reviewed tt and. found that OSWALD had not becn used ox-even approached for use by. the Russtan Intelligence. He pub ina long diptance call to the Chief of 4 the KGB Seetion in Minek and inquired whebhar they had ueed, trained or prepared OSWALD in any way for intelli~ gence activity. The Chicf informed him that accovding to what he could veceall, they had not mide any uce of OOVALD. Just cbout this time, he (SUBIR ot) ebated that his superior walled into the office and directed Y Sole YG ee NW 53294 Docld: 32366704. Page .45
J262 622 ¢ the & SUBJECT to get all the information nvallable on. OSWALD and prepare a surmary to be furntched the top officials of the Commnist Party. The SUBJECT then dizocted the KGB Agent in Minsk to likewise prepare a summary of his file ‘on OSWALD and informed him thot within twenty minutes a KGB agent would errive by epeciad military plane to pick up the summary for return to Moscow. a satd this tas accomplished, ond whthin one hour they were pre ane a detailed veport on OSWALD's activity In Ruesia. This, concluded the SUBJECT, is the story of OGVALD In Rus ale. (f) The SUBJECT alco indicated that-he did not join the Con nai et Party umtii he was 27 years old, and he did this out of respect to his father, who at the time was -on hit g death bed and asked him (suBsuCr) whether he vould do him one more fever before he died. . That is how the SUBTEST stated he joined the Communist Party. Otherwise, he probably vould not have boon a menhber to this days DIPLOMATS. AND INCET) LIGHICE WYPES 7 * (¢) The SUBJECT stated that the KuB are.able to aifcorenttate between Anarieans whe are nssipned to lMececow and are actually the State Department type, from-thove who have an Drbelligence background, by the fact that the intelligence type of people do not aagociabe. WLOn the Ruseian girls, that is they will nob go out with them alone, whereas the State Department ‘type will, Also, over a period of a month or two thoy “dnvard ably are nble to find evidence thet the intelligence types have been micturbating. Thie Le usually detected through close cxan- tanbion of the individual's tovells and bed ehceta. (hn) On 25 Februnry LOCH dux ing the evening mcal, a dlecussion was had regerding the recent airplane crashes noted in ihe nevepapers: and on WY in the United States. The SURE cr commented. that he has a Lot of friends who are test pilots and who are now engaged in testing what he voferred to as a U-1 type of alreraft that is faster than any other atreraft’ inthe world. Te edded that these friends are highly paid bub they have very dangerous jobs. HW 53294 Doeld: 32366704 Page 6
Hi 53294 Docld: 39366704 .Page 7 USUIKy-George-MeotA) fe62 622 -€ SD/1 (14) The SUBJECT also made reference to his father during this meal, deseribing him as a very tall and extremely well-built individual, and one who was extremely intelligent ond a self-made, sel f-educated mane He learned the shipbullding trade mostly throvgh his ow rercarch and study, and also from bhe SUBJECE's grandfather, who was one of the first shipbullders in Russia. The SUBJECT added that his grondfather died at the age of Ol. He also stated that after the death of his father, a memorial vas built dn hie memory since he was considered a very capable director of the government shipping Industry. That was about the last time he saw his mobher and brothcr and scieter, a6 they all went to this coremony in honor of his father. He also {ndicated that there was a poriodical which gave a complete run-dowm on his Camlly background, including thetof his gravdfather and his father, and it vas well publiciacd; and this he believes had a Lot to do with his being able to get some special prefercice and move along as fast as he did in the KGB orgenization. . KGB_PRESSURE ON FAMIDY (3) On 27 February 196! during lunch, the SUBJECT stated that. he has been informed that the KGB is putting preseure on his immediate fainlly, particularly his mother. Tovever, he eald he vas nob overly worrled about her because she is well-off financially, and belng up in age there is not mich they.can do to hers  Vovever, wheb coteerns him most is the fact that they have already started to play on the sympathies of his two children and his wife. The SURJECT shated Chat he vas entictpating this; however, he did not tiytnk thet Ghey would start eo soon to pecssure the familly. Movever, he docs have scime hope that dn due time he may be able to get is family out of Russia. This hope he cald was given to him by the Chief of SR Diwlelons ano OL (x) On-25 February 1964 diving a sightseeing tour of Vashington by vehicle, as we passed the Library of Congress, the SUBJECT pointed to the building and stated that “we have people vorking in there”. Speelal Agent Stanley C. LACH said, "who ls 'we't" ond the SUBJECT ansiered, "KGB". He continued by stating thet this was a good place to place peuple because they could readily Learn by just vatelhing what redeareh waa being done in the IAbrary of Congress by the military
site LESNIK,«GeangeeMy” “he #262 622 C SD/L and thereby get an idea as to what the military was planning In the way of armawents and things of that nature. The SUBJECT also advised that the responsibility for getting information surreptitiously from American Embossies in foreign countries who employ. indigenous personnel, falls within the. confines of the KGB. He stated that the way they go about this ts to work through the indigenous personnel and arrange to enter the énbassy at special times during the night. They would first make a-close survey and a photograph of the area in-which the embassy keeps its classified material, then they would subsequently enter this area and open up the safes. “hen he was asked how this was done he stated, “oh, combinations to cafes are not hard to acquire”. He said that the important and difficult part of this activity is taking the material out and photographing 1% - one then placing Lt oxaetly.: as it. was before they touched It. LL Hes. beeen wivane Ene yj Sait KOBLE Sa Be Sf “Sfeclal Agent 1a ff ESI ew HW 53294... DocId:32366704... Page 6 Miipe. (
#262 622 OSWALD's case was not the same as obher Americans in Russia because he was considered not normal and he was not considered a defector as were MARTIN and MITCHELD. ; SUBJECT heard that OSWALD applied in Mexico for return to Russia. Word went from Mexico to the First Main Directorate to the Second Main Directorate. Second Main Directorate told First Main Directorate that he had tried suicide in Russia, married a Soviet citizen, departed Russia and was considered not normal so the request should be rejected. SUBJECT was then shown some photographs and he said he had seen a picture of Marina OSWALD in a magazine. A long list of names was read and shown.to SUBJECT but he failed to identify any of them. Many of the names were of people in Minsk. : savant dBi jms . | . ht t eee Bu. HW 53294. Docld:32366704 . Page 9