HW 54756 PB RB PB ‘RB PB RB PB RB bB RB PB © RB -PB RB PB RB PB RB Gosh no, you know. this” subject has probably been kicked around by everybody in town but this is outside of my realm of law. I'm strictly en admiralty. Ri ight, I knew that. And know nothing about criminal law. so really I haven! to: “been too even interested in the whole matter, quite frankly. Uh huh. Well you know things. like this happen. For instance a wife of one of the announcers made some statement and she actually made it. We traced it all the way back to her and it was just a casual conversation, but we did actually trace it back to the time that it was said to someone else, you know _ who accepted it as true and then passed it on to us, see and that's what I'm digging out now. But you don' t know a. |, HUGH CRAIN, that's H-U-G-H CRAIN C-R- -A- I- “Ne, No, I sure don't course you “know “Twas raisea, you might know I was raised inLake Charles and. uh I don't know maybe back in my schoolhood days I don' t know but the name. doesn" t xing | a bell with me at all, uh uh. - Let's see before Tulane, where aid you go" before ‘the Law oo School? . “Well of course I was at the Merchant Marine Academy in New York before you | know oo ; Uh huh Then I went to sea for three years Uh huh And prior to. that I was: well raised in Lake Charles. Uh huh, do you know anybody that might do this as a practical joke? Gosh no I don't. If someone was.to ask me a question like that, I'd have ae list so long that _ No, you really catch me by surprise. ‘I thought maybe you were playing a practical joke on me. No, positively not. My little note here says information indicates that one Patrick Burke, an attorney, is aware of the relationship between SHAW and FERRIE although Burke appears © to be a New Orleans Attorney and this information appears to have come from Baton Rouge and they referred me to a memorandun. Um hum, um hum . ‘So that uh... Docld:322763970 . Page 233
HW 54756 RB PB RB PB RB PB RB PB. RB pB RB PB RB PB RB PB - RB PB RB . PB DocId: 32263970 Page 234 Io don't even know anysody in Baton Rou . - N ‘Yeah OS , * In WwW the law field, you know, people, lawye there, . 7 Uh hum. Now there's no other Patrick Burkes that are attorneys. Tnere's a couple other Burkes. Well there! 'S a couple other--there's one other Pat Burke that ran for an office that was getting me confused uh I was getting confused with all the time on telephone calls. This is not the same one that! Ss a brother of the guy ‘that ran for the Mayor, is he? God, I don't know now: | You mean Paul V. Burke. -I don! t know, there! re a. lot of Burkes in New Orleans and. there is one other Pat Burke, . but I don't think he's a. lawyer. Of course if he ran for ‘political office, he might - be a lawyer. Do you recall--you're the only Burke listed as Pat Burke listed in the telephone directory--do you recall this other Pat Burke do you happen to know when he Yan or. what hee ran for. It might be... 2 It was “about uh let's see Tr saw ‘a “bumper sticker this was - about oh three months | AIO + um hum. Now wait a minute I've got the Burkes: in the phone directory now, let's see r Py Gq, r,s and there was a fireman ‘by the name of Burke, Pat Burke, an 1 elderly gentleman. There's a fireman by that name .and let's see. All right here's a Patrick B. Burke at 9012 Inez Drive, Jefferson Parish, phone 737-6407. Do you know who he is? - No, uh uh. I don't know any other Burkes other than JIMMY BURKE here. ne Let's see there' s a PATRICK a, ‘BURKE, 1549 Constance. — You — ‘don't know him? - No. oy ‘And there's a PATRICK L. BURKE. Okay, that would be me now. All right that's both listed as attorney-—there' sa PATRICK Ww. . BURKE. Na - « Sr., well it night be that they ah that they meant one of these other “PATRICK BURKES . I don' t know Dick as I say if uh I haven! t even been interested in the proceedings. I've been tied up in my own little field over here. , -
HW 54756° “RB PB RB PB RB PB _ PB PB . RB PB RB PB RB - PB PB - RB Yean, I imagine it keeps you pretty busy. But those ‘names mean absolutely nothing to me. Uh huh. Do you know anybody close to you that was discussing uh I'm not trying to dig some information out of someone, but I'm trying to find out how this got initiated so that -. can. trace it down, I understand. ‘Right, in other words get it right back to the ‘fountainhead and either say that uh this is what caused a misreport ox just, you know. The people I run around with Socially are all my partners. and uh like myself we're really not interested in.this in this proceeding at.all I mean we talk about our own law, legal - problems, you know. ot . no: Would anyone play any. "pranks on you that would uh- telephone pranks or anything? - No, not that I know of Dick. | Um hum _ Except I did get a little ‘prank ‘that I thought. was quite funny not toao long ago in the mail about’ whether or not I'd take the place of some herman who was. sitting as an idiot for some evangelist-I think or something of. that nature. Uh huh, did you ever find out who did it? No, I never did, uh uh. Now would admiralty practice unless you! re. representing claimants you wouldn't have many people that would go out - with uh any vindictiveness enough ‘to do something. Well no because my clients are all. insurance (inaudible), I'm strictly defense. . Yeah And all my contacts are all London really. Right so you wouldn't have this kind of thing. No uh wh | Yell you've helped me a lot. Now I'm going to get this memorandum from HUGH CRAIN that I'm referring to here and I'm going to go over it and it may have some information in there _ that we can check out or you can.recognize or something so I can trace this down and uh they may be even mistaken about the PATRICK BURKE. Oh, here's another thing, have you ever been mistaken for another BURKE who's an attorney not’ in Orleans? Docld:32263970 Page 235 -
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"January 25, 1968 aC z MOR JIM GARRISON, ‘District Attorney a FROM: - _ RICHARD v. BURNES, Assistant, District. "attorney | RE: To, CLAY SHAW ‘CONSPIRACY TO ‘MURDER JOHN F. KENNEDY on January 11, 1968, I returned a telephone call which our office received on January 10, 1968. The call came. from Nowatea, Oklahoma. The calling number was 273-3226. ~The calling party was a MR. ROBINSON. The telephone is not that of MR. ROBINSON's, but that of a neighbor's. MR. ROBINSON read to me a statement from a JOHN M. TUCKER which he had received. The statement related to the .. involvement of DAVE FERRIE and CLAY SHAW in a conspiracy to. ‘murder John F. Kennedy. ‘MR. ROBINSON does not know the present _ location of JOHN TUCKER, but he will forward the letter to us and attempt to locate TUCKER. A transcript of the conversation is attached. . - . a Sl Sof EP ye te, md 2o lw suze. Docla: 32263970" Page 238.
_ TELEPHONE CONVERSATION BETWEEN MR. ROBINSON, NOWATEA, OKLAROMA, AND --RICHARD V. BURNES, ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY R. I have a letter - - and he told me (inaudible) | Be I I am aware of it. ep. r "thought maybe, he might | want to- see ‘the letter. 'B.. all right who is--can you tell me sonething about the letter?” a ' R. have it. I could read it to yous ee cf a a a ey B. Well, I! m interested in hearing about it because right now see , I don't know who you are or really what the letters are about or anything. - R. yeah uh let me get it, and qr 11 read it to you. B. All right, do you have it there? R. r' 11 get it that quick. I hope. - Are you ready? B. Right oo / R. it says uh I 11 read ait exactly like it was wrote. . B. Okay | oo | | | “Re. It says, "I, John M. Tucker, give this paper to J. J. Robertson .. on the above date putting my signature to it that its authority - Will be known. I was in New Orleans in the first--wait just-a oF. second--in the first quarter of 1962 and there I met an individual | now under investigation for the conspiracy of the murder of .. | - John F. “Kennedy. At the time I did not know of any conspiracy or plan and was never a member of any right or left wing party — ~~ merely an individual exposed for a short time to the planning of a distorted person. I, judge the individual to be something of a homosexual and thought to go along for.a laugh. However, since — the beginning of this investigation I have come to realize’ that | the individual was. none other than FERRIE-~is that | it-- a low . B.  FERRIE | _R. He introduced. himself and is ‘now deceased. I was introduced to v> : --another person by FERRIE who is.now very much alive and claims no. knowledge of who FERRIE was." And is. signed by JOHN TUCKER. “Be All right, now let me ask you something. Did he explain to you~ anything further besides the letter? 0 2 0 en “ "R. Yeah he did. 7” BL Who was. the person he was. referring to is alive? “OR. As what? \HW 54756 | DocTd: 32263970 Ba
_Mr. Robinson? . a ‘gays here that sooner or, later his name will come. up in’ /. T.can. get in. -touch with you? | Are you employed at any particular place now? Who is the live person he is referring to? dust a minute. the investigation.’ DO es Uh “buh ana uh 9 af not that then my description of him--as: he says here that sooner or later his name. will. come up in the _investigation-~this individual that gave me this. uh huh. Now let me ask ‘you: this uh what is your address where you have the phone number where you can get in “touch with me. Right, can you give me a street address or anything? . lOBN. McCaffero. ees 108 where? | | / N. McCaffero No. McCaffero, how do you spell McCaffero? M-C C-A-F-F-E-R-O —_ ; a | Okay, and now what do - you do- for a ‘living, normally? Ah I'm just a . mechanic. ~ Yes sir. Could you tell me where it is? Be a So es — oS For ny father. a oo | | - ce oo : — we — . Be—alL right, -and where-is-his business: located? Re . HW 54756. “Tulsa, Oklahoma. | B. _ to be able to get in touch with “you incase I. need to call you -cmiskoges? © ° Docld:32263970 © Page 2740 a —~ Dee _And what's the name_of his business or how--in other words I want — about something. | _ os we coe Well, you can call me: Eight. here at this Phone number which would ; bee okay. all right now dh this guy ‘TUCKER, “how can Lr get in “touch with hime oth the “Vast” time | rT seen chim he was ain | Muskogee. He 1 was going to "Muskogee, OTE, . enn a Welln now isn't that where ‘Norman, “oklahoma | is and Oklahoma city, ~ around in there? ae o tate ee a
Uh ‘Aub No, Muskogee, is ) eight over “here by Tulsa. oo Uh huh ‘Uh huh | ‘Ah fifty-two miles. — _ Right uh all. right I guess this is the information. and “you will - send me a. copy. of the letter? ne a ony r see. You, wouldn' t know. how to get ‘in “touch with: him now? No, not gight. off. I wouldn't, but. rT ‘could probably - write. a- @ letter “: make two or three phone calls and. get in touch with pam | oy I would like to get in ‘touch with him, . you “know, as a witness. ~. I'd also like. to get a ‘COPY. of that ‘statement if it's at all» Possible. Fe it Soe “pail that"o. the veavon why I saved it. He told me that. if enything was. ‘to happen to. him to. ‘mail this to you. be. I decided I'd go ahead and do it anyway. Well if you would, it would help. us an-awful lot you know for. us to have this information. I'd. really like to get, you know, the name of your daddy so that I could locate you through him in case we ever lost connection with each other if you feel. like you can give it to me now I wouldn't alert: him to anything, you know, if -I had to eal yous well, I'ii tell you what. 7 You see what my problem is that you may move and you may be _ intending to let me know and a couple of weeks may pass. or. something and uh it would help. a lot if I knew how to get in touch with you. Well if -you want to write a letter or if you. want to call me, you can call me at this phone number: because I'll always be within | hollering ‘distance of it. okay, now how far is Nowatea from Tulsa? _ ~~ lm Fifty-two miles and. you drive to work each day over in- Well, would you: rather have a “photostatic copy, of it?” . Either. a “copy ‘Or “the setter, either one. wil be ‘fine. -
“and another little piece of paper. which, ‘tT. dian’ £. read. to > you. os Al Just stick it xight in. | uh} huh, 1 | - and m mail this to (you. well look here. I'l. ‘tell you what I can ao: I can mail this letter’ just as it's “written: here. ; , we Ud ‘on huh” there. “Be Uh h huh. opia he tell 2 you who ‘this other men is, in other words. “OR. Yes he did. 1. He t told : me. a lot, of ‘things about it. a Pa “BL gan yo you tell me who it tse os - . So bee “RL © No, I can't  venanber whet ns hat su = name was. I'li tell you . what he did. He was uh a manufacture. “coftes | Company? R. No, I believe it s was clothing. B. “UW huh, clothing manufacture? ‘s R. Yes sir, a | , | ON Be ‘and uh- R. ra know his name if r'd ever heaz it. ° B. Well, the thing is y aoa’ ‘t know the names of all. the people under : investigation. It may be that we have the name but. . . R.. _ You do? | Be r said it may be, but I mean I wouldn' t know--necessarily know because they' re a lot of us working on. it, , See. . : [RL Yeah | | | . B. $0 1 that! 's , why uh . OR. or wish I could a the name, but he didn't 't put “any name in _ here’ ‘excePe’ ‘FERRIE or FARRIE or whatever. oe iB. -PERRIE . . oR. FERRIE? oy z 7 . aes o. = ma - - my ee “BL Right. Now ‘aid he tell ee siyenng ere cate clothing manufacture" HW 54756. OK anything else (Or., any other, information Ehat you can Pass on to
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wee ete -—- +e —-- COMMISSION DOCUMENT 75. Pevort of Spectal keene Warren C. De Brueys dated 19/2/42 at Nallas, "ax. ANALYSIS OF GLASSIFIZD PAGES The above docunent,. in two volunes and 237 pages long, is one of the most important FBI reports in the Archives. It also contains nore Material about New Orleans than any other document, including the 40 classified pages on David Ferrie. It is also the document. which Wegmann was looking at on May 10th. Like all the bulky documents pertaining to the assassination, it is in the LIST B category, which means that it is unclassified, but numerous pages are withdrawn. at the request of the FBI. Portions of the document have been pubashed as CE's 1896- 1942, but the majority of it is unpublished. pages classified 112 164-166 180 182-183 207~210 212-221 225-228 257-260 281-304 - 307-311 313-316 319-323 341-343 345-347 400 415-417 — S399- 453 426-427 gre wad fl +l 433-434, ATL TE 309-519 © lr, Dan Senbornfilexican Tasure Names nentioned (determined from index which is unclassified. ) Chandler T. Josey J.ii, Hammett; MM. Herdehoff; John Huret [sic]; Dutz wurrets Gene turret; Allen Waller; Yvonne Cooper; Ed Turnley; [page Il was xéroxed and sent].Archie Fussell John David Kilgore (2830 Chapman St. Shreveport,la.) Major Orville Richards; William Thornton J.W.Hammett; Jack Baringer; Jack Erwin; Mike Giacone; H. Warner Aloepfer} Art ‘Lemane; x. R.Littey [or witey) iirs .L.W,Mathon;. August cus lichelet; John Maret; Flozence Murat nh Kurat [sic]; ee FERRIE, Analysis of these pages “already sent. Bets Jack Arnold; Dr. Kyle Hamm; [Dr Hamm is Gladys Rodgers! psychiatrist. J Carol E, Hyde; Garland Laninghaem; Michael and Rut th Paine; George Stephenson; Mrs Rodgers}; FERRIE. Analysis sent. FERRIE - FERRIE; Voebel; Verret; Vorrhies;. FERRIE; Erhlicker; Meister; Voebel FERRIE; Radelat; Voebel; Coffey;Compton; Duplantis; Wilson; Esteve; Harden; Joseph Thompson; V.C.Bilbo Trucking Co.; Mareld Cr ona tile” John C. Heurtin; William E. tiller; Vic Pissera; John Shea; Henry Thomo- Son; George Vath; John Wax; Lawrence Yeager; ililton Danner; Dick Thite A.0.Fonville; Haydel, {numerous first. names: Abner, Alberic, Albert Je Alfred; Amenaide; Antoine J; Elvera; Hazel L; ‘dudith 4 A; Louella C, Rhonda D. Rita; Roger J,] Hiadell; Hydell Deite : Fair Play for Cuba; Marcelle Clark; Robert Osy rald; Harold J. ‘Stafford; Ed Turnley co Miss Arden F, Gibbs, Mrs. Elva Santoine, Robert iiilton Santoine; _Anfa Hotel; Carlos binguter; fvonne Cooper; Norman Fetzer; 'Florence!; irs, Maude Forsythe; Florence Gléaser; . Grezory Grabka; Dr.Forrest LaVio-- lette; E.J.Liebold; License BL 5525 (HY) ; Arthar W,. Moeller; Anthony I. Osswald; Anthony Willian. Osswald; Conrad J.. Osswald; nia fai} Osswald; Irene Reszia Osswald; Mary. Osswald; Antaony Willian Oswald [sic]. Leonard. Reissman; Anthony Reszxa;. Irene fase; Jack N, Rogers; rance agency) © HW 54756 Docld:32763970 Page 2450
Commission Document 75. ce Classified vages (continued). 509-519 541-545 57257 — 672-673 705706 (707) 708-709 73L,-737 . Sm ee chain ie pet tet Edwin Schultz; ?d Turnley: Cectlia "warnzek: TY. inenn Mrs Lee Williams; Henry Wunderlich; : American Embassy, Moscow; Howard J. Herbert; Clarence Johnson; June Lee Oswald; Marina Oswald; Byron Phillips; iir Eugene Urban; Ken Deas, (Vice President, Mid-south Press, Shreveport); Florence De Men; George Henry De Men; Christine Steele Eatman; Mrs Millie Craft Farrington; William George Gaudet; Henry Edward Linam; Bagoliné Luigi; David Pearce: Magyar; Arthur Crandall Mason; Gordon Edward May; Mrs Lillian Stanton Merrill; Mrs Judy Marie North; Samue Thomas North; Robert Howard Peavy; . _ Malline Carter Peavy; Richard Lawrence Philion; Henry Lee; ; os Carlos Bringuier; Fair Play for Cuba Committee; (FNU) Hidell; International Trade Mart; Lt, Francis Martello; Jack Ruby; Government of Samoza; Thompson's Restaurant; Tulane University; (Unclassified: deals with FPCC literature found among Oswald's possessions at Ruth Paine's house on November 22 1963) He Christina Amor; Manuel Amor; Marvin Brown; CIA; Lillian McFarlend; St Petersburg Times; John Sider; Tampa Bay Chapter of Fair Play for Cuba — Committee; Harold Wilson; These pages constitute the appendix to the document. There are no references to any proper names in the index, They probably contain references to the reliability of various FBI "confidential informants", as in the appendices to other FBI documents, a There is some indication that the list of names to be found on pp & 578-574 are of people who obtained Mexican travel visas in New Orleans at around the same time as Oswald, This is anyway true of Gaudet, North and Merrill, and a few others who are mentioned on other, unclassified pages. Gaudet (FO Box 365, Waveland, Mississippi) "also indicated that he has ig the past been an employee of the CIA." (p 588). There are a total of 116 classified pages in this document, or slighizy _ less than one-sixth of the total number of pages. T.Bethell, National Archives, . Washington DC oO — May 24 1967 “HW 54756 - Docld:32263970 Page 249°".
4 National Archives “RIFLE FOUND ON ROOF OF TSBD RIFLE FOUND 01 See vol 15 page 590- Testinony of Thayer . sequence showing this rifle. veing brought down fre in the Dalies have 4 telesco Cinema Associ pic sisate | PAROLE OF ISS HARVSY OSWALD Joyce 0! - then "contacte ‘Liquor store, paroled." (CD _ RAYEOND COUSTO RAYNOND COSSTO DEAN ANDREWS, BERTRAND. COS ates film of Brien, Lillian varret's daughter, we EMILE BRUNO, who operates the B & W package 2712 Canal Ste, and Mr Bruno contact a a family friend, 75, pel60) CK attorney-at-lav, had contacte . familiar with a number of homosexuals in the TOCK advised he was (FBI report: 11/27/63 § CK, investigater, Distr ict Att d him;- New Orleans French Guarter, but has been unable +o Reb DAVIS Jie R.MeDAVL, ‘New Orleans, Louisiana, he has made extensive searches of the files o to locate any (FBI report 11/27/63 SAR record of CLAY BERT ‘investigator for DSAN ANDREW advised upon + RAL Vialdo. “According to Sprague, 8 m the roof of the TSBD is shown the assassination. Apparently it does not. nt to gee Oswald in jail and a ad someone else who had Oswald A Regis Kennedy) 7 orney's office, advised that attempting. to. identify. CLAY. identify this individual. "(GD 753 pe 196) ecis Kennedy) S, attorney at law, Audubon Building, he instruction of his employer, DEAN ANDREWS, - f Andrews! office, and has been unable ND or a record of LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He advised that he recalls OSYALD visiting ANDREWS! office and ANDREWS had mentioned to: him that OSiaLD was the U.S. Marine Corpse 4 1 . e e desirous of obtaining & he aring on his bad conduct discharge fron DAVIS advised he could not recall or identify any of the individuals with whom OS::ALD came to. the office. me : JaCK NELSON An attorney contacted by one ROBERT -Oswald after his arrest on Canal WORE NAMES OM CLASSIFIED FERRITE P The following two names wer joned on the 4 ' oH HENRY GOGREVE | ' Qwner, afternoon of N Cuban, came in have been shot 19, 5', 1101Lbs ad HW 54756 DocId:32263970 Pa Street. AGES 0 classified Ferrie pages: AROLD TOOLS - JOSEPH THOMPSON Henry's Market, 5101 ov 26th 1963 two yo to his store and to , "They were appere ’ Spanish accent. ge 250° ung people Magazine Street » appar (cD '75 p- 195) HELLER $now living in New York), to represen: Heller had witnessed the arrest, GCE 19286 @ omitted from my earlier list of prope nanes ments advised that during the early. ently man and wife and apparently . 1d him that Oswald was not guilty anc should not ntly friends or sympathisers of Oswald." Both about (CD 75 Bo 121) . 7,Bethell, National Archives Washington DC. | May 24 1967
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Q. A. Q. Ae Qe A. A. Q. A. Q. A. page 1 What is your name? Layton P. Martens, What is your address? , 136 General Gardner, Lafayette, Louisiana, Are you of legal age? Yes, sir. Do you know Captain David Ferrie? Yes, sir. Have you ever been a member of Civil Air Patrol? . Yes Wnat Squadron? New Orleans Cadet Squadron Have you ever been a member of the Falcon Squadron? Yes I have Did you hold any position of authority in the Falcons, Yes, I did : Would you name that position and describe its duties? » I was the Adjutant. I was respoksible for all the paperwork, . files, records, applications, I.D. Cards, the squadgon paper and so on, Was the Falcon Squadron part of the Louisiana Wing of Civil Air Patrol? No Sir. Was it part of the National organization? | Tre Falcons were an entirely independent organization with its own existence, its own rules, its own purposes, its own articles of incorporation and its own activities.. With what organizations was it connected? None, HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 259 -
f page 2 ; 5 ae Q@. State, if you remember, who were the incorporators of the - 4 * Falcons? A. Dave Ferrle, John Irion, Jim Lewallen and Ned Mendez 2. Neneerenrectemor sean a eee Q. Were they members of the Falcons? A. Yes They were sdniors. Q. What is a senior? A. A senior is an adult member over 21. Under 21 we called them Cadets. Q. Were CAP I.D. Cards ever issued to any members? A. Yes as T,mporary I.D, Cards until we decided to go independent. Q. What happened to these temporary I.D. Cards? A. They were withdrawn or recalle. and our own issued. j [ gee ae vores ace ta rear peepee A teomtcieer enema’ Q, Is this such an I.D. Card (showing a blue card)? A, Yes. . Q, To whom was this card issued? ce \ ee . -A. To John Espenan nnn TTA 2A ONCE TH a te SSO ae Q. Who wrote the word temporary across the face? . A. I don't recall. It could be my handwriting, though or \ Captain Ferrie's or the First Sargent's/ | Q, Was a Mr. Espenan a menber of the Squadron? A. Yes. Here 1s a copy of his application for membership. (Profers a paper to Mr, Gill) Q.. Who has had charge of these files? A. Ihave. | Q. Was Mr. Espenan a senior or a cadet? A. This application is for Espenan's father and he was a senior, and Johnny the son was a Cadet. HW 54756  Docld:32263970 Page 260
HW 54756 Aw Q A ® ¢ i page 3: - 2 7 F % 3 i : # a . § You say the Falcons were | an independent organization.. Was ‘this generally known? : Certainly, z How do you know? Everybody in the Souadron new it because we had meebings to discuss our future Status and what we wanted to do. Besides I sent out a copy of the Squadron paper to everybody in the mail, . Did a Mr. Espenan ever come and pick up any papers or . charter covering thé Falcons? Qe. A. Q. A e . Yes he did, WHen did that occur? In August 1961. How can you be certain of the date? It was at the time Mrs. Landry Was making it hot for everybody. I remember it because he came to c ptainFerries house. Captin Ferrie was not home. His boy went in and fot the papers from Captain Ferrie's desi, Was this a State Charter? Yes it was the 8: uadrons, In the year 1960 you belonged to New Orleans Squadron Civil Air Patrol? Q. A. , Yes . Did that Squadron have a summmer encampment that year? » Yes Where was it held? At Keesler Air FOrce Base, - Docld: 322763970 Page 761
HW 54756 A. Q. A. A. page 4 Who was in charge of that Encampment? _€ol. Semuel B. Davis . What position did Captain Ferrie hold at that Encampment? He was Commandant of Cadets. What was the chain of command at that encampment. In other words, starting with Col. Davis, how did orders or commands come down to the cadets? By the chain of command, orders would originate with Col. Davis go through Captain Ferrie to the ingigidual Cadet Commanders in charge of each barracks of cadets. Who was immedaita@y over the Cadets? Captain Ferrie. Was a Lt. Col. Christianse in charge? No Was he there? — Yes _In what capacity was he there? AS a sort of advisor, He did not have any command function. Did any dispute arise at Keesler that involved Captain Perrie? Yes it did. : ‘What was the n&ture of that dispute if you know it of your own knowledge? | Well, every senior that showed up thought he was a commander and started issuing orders. The result was confusion. Every -gentor was contradicting everybody else. The Cadets then complained to Captain Ferrie who was immedately above them. Captain Ferrie said we should follow the chain of command. Then some seniors went to Col. Davis and he told them the same thing. So they went to Christianson. All the seniors wanted to be chiefs and nobody wanted to be indians. . DocId: 32263970 Page 262
HW 54756 Q- Q. A. Qs o * Q. Q. A. A, Qe A. page 5 Were any decisions arrived at in this matter? Yes What were those decisions ie you - inow them? That a bunch of us guit and walked out. Why was that? Because we got disgusted with the Air Force. They had preached military courtesy and discipline and chain of command. Then Christianson wanted to turn this ell upside dow. A lot of the fellows thought thet something was wrong with what the Air Force had told us about how they worked. We could not see how it was possible for Col. | Chirstianson to preach one thing and practice another. Do you kmow of these criminal charges against Captain Ferrie Yes. | How do you know of them? i was subponeaed as a witness at his trial . pid you know Jemes Landry and pte c ouchet? Yes I did To what did you testify at the trial? , < testified that since I was a resilient of Captain Ferrie's house I had first hand knowledge of the im- possibility of these charges being true. After all I lived there and if anyone would have known I would hwe. How did you come to live at Captain Ferrie's house? My mother and father separated and eur home broke up. My mother asked Captain Ferrie and his mother if I could stay with them as I had no place to go. Are you working? I am a student at Sguthwestern What activities went on in the Feleon Squadron? — Captain Ferrie taught us reciprocal eng irs and had us overhaul a couple under FAA supervision. They were passed. We recovered an airplane and it passed, We did metal and Docld: 322763970 Page 263
HW 54756 Q. page 6 and 1t passed the PAA, we also atudied mathemtics aerodynamics and physics. I learned geometry in about three weeks this way. What was the object or purpose of the squadron? Most of us wanted careers in aviation, Elther we wanted to go to the Air Porce Academy, or AViation Cadets, or in aerosclence, We don't have a very good school system and this was the best way to get the things we needed but did not know. Captain Perrie had helped & fellows into the Air Force Academy before and we knew he could help us. That was why we went to him and asked him to form this squadron. Docld: 322763970 Page 264
New Orleans Police Department, ey USE THIS FORM ONLY FOR REPORTING “RDDITIONAL a wo srsa SUPPLEMENTARY. REPORT“, UI , US INFORMATION ON A REPORT PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED. Contributing to Dalinquongy August 8, 1981 fense so 7™ m 43... strict PAPER Offense —trtinddat: $on-—- ate of Offense 45.) “KURUSt LS; 1 OSE No. “HeBIO7F2EL oe nA, iWhere offense occured) us offense is deciared: Unfounded ‘Cleared by arrest —_3o%—-—_- Not cleared Partly cleared a Cleared by identification —__- { property is involved, show here. type a and | value of property recovered, of if the case may be, additional property. reported ‘tolen) . STOLEN - "RECOVERED ’. Currency and negotiables’ GF. . Jewelry and precious metals ee Furs oe : . CEE Clothing . a eae Ee Miscellaneous — Be gee od tee a - (Include costume jewelry) - —— _ _ TOTAL VALUE _-——— leet ‘SE LEN (QH RECOVERED PROPERTY (Serial No. Brand, Etc.) under “Details” below. ETAILS: a Thursday Y morning Aue a ae 1€Si, Invasti gating officers reeaived a phone gell trom im, Aloxander ary who osated ahst juvenile Miehasl | Groushes aad geome to hin residen oo on 3a nignt of vednosday August 23, 1381, and told ef being contacted by Davia PosTiae Tho boy ted Mr. Lendry that foarsie was tring to gat hin (Croucl ebj to deep the charges, Inveatigatiag (officara dsncliataly contacted Htehack Oroushet at his cuployess by puonds crows that atated that Fase who gang So ES store where be ig exploysd, at 5323 Se Claudo Avae, at 28150% angust 8 Boy “LSSh. Agtording 60 Crouchat, Ferrie was with areshor POPecns whom Bs intreduced as a oobene who hed jumped in Sho recens invasion of Guba. Perel, az Croushes Btated, asked hin $0 sign a poner stating the helCrovehotjhed mide the statements to the police ous of anger for Cape Perrine Grouches cc ~3 ara shat Peride told him that he yours have to sign the pa paper er % LL8h by soma Cubans. ‘Crouchet told sslgstjiag officers Shs S bs 9O2 bis by Ferric besause neve was efrscd, Sroughe’ enta ais % o> 08d hin parents about Forrio’s x, . VASES to the oe efter he & . Lager that abskt,- he wont to ces Mr. Alonandor ShUs7 Ssous LSe Sroushst aveted that ho aaited Hie, Landry £6 aesity davosdigatins oF SLeces. hg ems § ees aw mes - oh th, ». a - 8 a 4 ; , On Aucuss 25 2203 o ins vosbigating orsteere wont go PagaLa. SUuLSer aa, aah a ot o “ > Maskest where Crouskes ds employcd, and @ Dubl typ & 3 Pw Ha oY w WwW Ye takea fren kim relative te the vioit uade by Ferrio, Thig statement will Bsstor ex plain the eccurrenéS; whica also case vibes the subject with Forria, ~ plea : . aad enctios vo was sitting cntsida ¢t , sacuget “SEs one of Sze Sener subjects wan know ty the na Bae Eedeove CPUNIase Svat ad shat Forvio stayed Jin the oters frem about 15  untal | 2000, and later vhen ks (crouse not) knoeked off, Forrde was waiting outside . As Cass . ; yO ’ . eo store in Ferric's zav. re Soe watom « th ‘ os asep 3 Fn inveatd gating officers encke with Me. Georse Jd. Yugifa dre, of Fo) ay » c+) Sys Se. Ulaeds AV@e, Cea oF the Gresery Store. sty Fu AGLI S suaecd shat GRP LUST QD approsiantely 2s3or, ke hoe taccd Suwo men spedl eucnes i the hha ¢ ie. Puglia identitied ene of the subjests as havens “painted iy DPOWS end was losing his Raat re very Soll 21isg Dave Foswate bie “ughie Licnbitied tha eghor stbject oa being about 20 years old, ta? o ty Fournier Gebgedd Go donee Gee 581 Lt, August Ce Lang CoB 5a63 te jaruns. Ao . ; due eniie. . , _ , deve lle HW 54756 Docld:32263970 Page 265
- gelf as Michael He Lov» a fri Supplementary Report Continued.... Page-2 Item He8507-61 Inve 3tigating offieers spoke with Mr. Francis Puglia of 5523 St. Claude who stated that at approximately <:30PM, two men cane into the store’. . and were talking with Crouchet. Mr. Puglia described one of the subject. as having sapttty hair, which was falling out and was about 6' tall. This description given officers by Mr. Francis Fuglia, certainly aprears - to be Ferrie. Mr. Francis Pugbia stated also that tnis subject sad painted eyebrows, and told of encther subject who wags with the subject — with the painted eyebrows, but could not Identify him to well. Investigating officers returned to the Juvenile Sureau emi notified ' Immigration authorities. Inspector Underwood came to the Bureau and Was given eli the information in thie matter. Inspector Underwood stated - ' that he knew Arcacha Smith and that Smith wes an american Citizen, and ’ that there was nothing his organization could do. © — At 1:05°7H August 24, 1961 Invest. Officers received another call. from Grouchet, who stated that David Ferrie had come to see him agrine © =.) Grouchet stated that Ferrie and another subject had just left idzz bin. after getting him to sign another paper. Officers drove imiediztely to the Balter Building in an effort to catch Ferrie, but after 1 hour, “he failed to show up. Officers returned to the Juyenile Bureau and call Crouchet by phone and have him explain Ferrie's second visit. . Crouchot stated that he signed something that had the phrase drop ai charges in it. Ferrie told Crouchet that if he signed the otapaaosee . that it would keep him (Crouchet) out of trouble. Crouchet stated that Perrie had someone with him with dark hair and believed his names was Andrew. This unidentified subjeet was the same one who had cone. dato the store with Ferric the day before, according te Crouchet. Crouchet stated also, that it was about 13: :40PH, and he was coming from lunch when he saw Ferrie mrked by Cusimano? 3 resturant on St. Glaude Ave, near the Puglia's super market, and it a parking lot near a liquor store. Ferrie told Crouchet on this second visit, that he {Ferrie) wanted Crouchet to mest Arcache Smith. According to Crouchet, | Ferrie told him that he could have any thing he wanted for signing the paper. Porrie alzo told CGrouchet on the second visit, that if he wanted, he(Ferrds) could arrange to get him (Crovchet}) cut of x22m tow. At 3:00PM tnvestigating officers received ak esll from Mr. Landry, who Bhated that he reced a phone | call from a subject who identizied ine and of his son, from Houston, Texas. re Landry stacc ae is 3 ere Landry on the norning of August 25, 1981, but leanred that MeLoy did. : not shew up. Cn the night ef August 2h,, 1961 Officer Jonau, received a telephone 7 call from Chief Warrent Officor C. R. Knowlton frem Camp Lefoy Jokason, who stated that to his knowledge the charter held by Ferria was forged. Knowlton stated that he chock “with the National Headquarters in Houston, Texas and found that their was ne charter issued for the Metairie Faleon Squadren, Officer Knowlten stated thet he hag reesived a mumber of ¢@alla frem perents inquiring of tho Metairie Faleon Squadro::. , Investigating officer Jonau called Mejor Caristian, who is tue somander - - of the C4vil Air Patrol in New Orleans, Majer Christian staved that Perric was at one time, quietly removed from the Sew Orleans Cscet Squadson of the C.A.P. . Agent Steart sheer of the F.B.l. was notified of the current, “ing foruation. HW 54756 Docld: 32263970 Page 266
Supplementary Report Continued.... Pagee2 Item He8507-61 Inve 3tigating offieers spoke with Mr. Francis Puglia of 5523 St. Claude who stated that at approximately <:30PM, two men cane into the store. | and were talking with Crouchet. #r,. Puglia described oone of the subject. as having spétty hair, which was fallin ng out and was about 6? tall. ws This description given officers by Mr. Francis Puglia, certainly appears . to be Ferris. Mr. Francis Puglia stated also that this subject Bad Painted syebrows, and told of encther subject who was with the subject =~ with the painted eyebrows, but could not identify him to well.) ' Investigating officers returned to the Juvenile Bureau ami notified ‘Immigration authorities. Inspector Underwood came to the Zureau and .: ° | WwsS given ell the infornation in this matter. Inspector Underwood stated . _ that he knew Arcacha Smith and that Smith wes an American Ctedzeny and” that there waés nothing his orranization could do. At 1:05PH August 24, 1961 Invest. Officers received another call. from Crouchet, who stated that David Ferrie had come to see him agzin. Grouchet stated that Ferrie and another subject had just left geez hin. _ after getting him to sign another paper. Officers drove imiediztvely me to the Balter Building in an effort to catch Ferrie, but after 1 hour, © *. he failed to show up. Officers returned to the Juyenile Bureau end call Crouchet by phone and have him explain Ferris's second visit. Crouchet stated that he signed something that had the phrase grog ai har: es in it. Ferrie told Creuchet that if he signed the ctateceeS that it would keep him (Crouehet) out of trouble. Crouchet stated _ that Perrie had someone with him with dark hair and believed his nam was Andrew. This unidentified subject was the same one who had cone. into the store with Ferrie the day before, according to Crouchete CPouchet stated also, that it was about ib: 3:40PM, and he was coming from lunch when he saw Forrie mrked by Cusimano! $ resturant on St. Glauie Ave, near the Fuglia's super market, and it a parking lot near at liquor store. Ferrie told Crouchet on this second visit, that he “ fFerrio) wanted Crovuchet to meet Arcache Smith. According to Crouchat, » Ferrie told him that he could have any thing he wauted for sigming tne paper. Ferrie aleo told Crouchet on the seeond visit, that if he _ wanted, ne (Ferrie ) could arrange to get him (Grovechet) out of tou town. At 3:00PM investigating officers reeeived ak call from Mr. Landry, who Bhated that he received a phone call from a subject who identified hime . .  gelf as Michael He Ley a friend of his son, from Houston, Toxas. Mr. Landry stact¢ Es) ming to Big house. Officers Salted Mte Landry on ‘the morning of August 25, 1981, ‘but leanred that Meloy did. AOS show wpe _ On the night ef dugust 24, 1961 Officer Jonau, received a telephone a call frem Chief Warrent Officer C. R. Knowlton fren. Camp LeRoy Johanson, who stated that to his knowledges ths charter held by Ferrie was forged... Knowlton atated that he chock “With the National Headquarters in Kouster, Texas and found that their was no charter issued for the Metairie Falcon Squadren. Officer Knowlten stated thet he hag received a numder of e@alla from perents inquiring of the Metairie Faleon Squadron. , Investigating officer Jonau eslled Mejor Caristian, who is Lie somzander of the Civil Air Patrol in New Orleans. Majer Christian staved ‘chat Yerric was at ona time, quictly removed from the vew Orleans Cscet Sguadson of the C.4.P, Agent Stuart sheer of the F 8. Ie was notified of the current inforuatica. - HW 54756 Docld: 32263970 Page 267
HW 54756 ~ t{COUmjBREWSTER BLOG, me : ; i . wets Se \ , SOUTHERN RESEARCH COMPANY INC. 808 MARITIME BUILDING lLernone 42 421484 442 WEST BUILDING . . TELEPHONE JA 2-3338 -AREVEPORT, LA. ‘ HOUSTON, TEXAS NEW ORLEANS, LA. CHARACTER OF INVESTIGATION DAVID WILLIAM FERRIE, aka David W. Ferrie, "Dave" BACKGROUND GLR :pab SYNOPSIS Subject arrested SO, Jefferson Parish, La., 8/3/61 and 3/22/61, - charged with carnal knowledge, Contributing to Delinquency of Juvenile, Indecent Behavior, and Crime against nature. Charges still pending but dismissal anticipated. Subject arrested New Orleans PD 2/16/62 and charged relative to extortion. Charse pending and New Orleans DA anticipates moving to trial. New Orleans Retail Credit Bureau shows current residence for subject at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans, La. Two small accounts for collection, two news clippings relative to his arrests, no other derogatory data. Subject employed as investigator for local attorney who represents him on criminal charges. FERRIB owner of 1960 Ford Tudor Sedan bearing 1962 La. registration 300-601. Car is being _ financed and last payment on account dated 9/26/62. 1959 Ford. found registered to DAVID W. FERRIZ, JR., 11 Prospect St., Alexandria, La., but efforts to identify negative to date. Neigh- borhoods at past residences of subject negative regarding knowledge | of involvement in activities of derogatory nature. Observation of subject after working hours 11/9, 10 and 11/62 reflects subject may still be associating with youths involved in instant charces. INVESTIGATION CONOUCTED FOR . INVESTIGATION AUTHORIZED BY INVESTIGATIVE PERIOD : i Tolan Investigation, Inq. Mr. Thomas M. Tolan November, 1962 DATE OF REPORT FILE NUMBERS COPIES November 19, 1962 11-N-224 | 3 - Mr Thomas M, Tola - = STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL — This report is furnished by the agency at the request of the client named herein, and is strictly confidential and for elient’s informa- ‘then only. Client, in accepting this report, agrees to hold same in Strict confidence for his own exclusive use; never to be communicated, and te be personally responsible for any damage arising from a violation of any of the above provisions. . LEGAL & BUSINESS INVESTIGATIONS = A FIRM PRINCIPALLY STAFFED BY FORMER AGENTS OF THE F BI Docld: 32263970 Page 2763
, Ne 11-N-224 12/19/62 SURVEILLANCE 30 HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 269
HW 54756 11-N-224 12/19/62 A surveillance was maintained at FERRIE's residence from 5:30 P. M. to 11:30 P. M. on Friday, November 16, (1962, by JACK OLIPHANT; FERRIE came ‘home about 7: 15 P. M. by himself and went into his ‘house. At 8:15 P. Mey FERRIE and two men who appeared to be about his own age walked away from FERRIE's home and got into an automobile with 1962 Louisiana license 190-718. GLIPHANT had been instructed to 292. record activity at the house and not to follow cars away from the house since it was believed more important to determine who came to see him. This car came back at 11:00 P. M. and FERRIE got out and went into his house. There was no further activity. | 1962 license 190-718 is issued to DANTE MAROCHENT 1309 Dauphine Street, for a 1951 Pontiac. The following investigation was conducted by EDWARD M. DAVIS: on November 17, 1962, the following observations were made at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Oxleans, Louisiana: ' The observation commenced at approximately 6:30 P. M. At this time the subject's automobile, a 1960 Ford, bearing 1962 Louisiana license 300-601, was absent from in front of the above address. At 7:30 P. M., subject arrived in the above automobile alone. He parked in front of 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway and entered the house. At 8:25 Ps Mey Ay L954 Ford, tudor sedan, bearing 1962 Louisiana license bile ‘eal, with + three boys in the car arrived in “front of the subject's home. They parked the car and all entered the home at 3330 31 Docld: 322763970 Page 270
11-N-224 12/19/62 Louisiana Avenue Parkway. Shortly thereafter, two of the boys left the subject's home and walked in the direction of South Broad. The driver of this car is approximately eighteen years of age, six feet tall, slender build, brown hair. He was wearing an orange-colored short sleeve shirt and dark colored Slacks. The second boy was _ approximately sixteen years of age, five feet eight inches tall, medium build, dark brown hair with high wavy front. He was wearing a plaid shirt and dark Slacks. The third boy was approximately . fifteen years of age, slender, five feet six inches tall, had fair complexion, light brown hair and was wearing light tan slacks and a light blue shirt. The latter two boys were the ones that left and walked toward South Broad. They returned at 9:20 P. M. and entered the Ford with Louisiana license 311-641. At approximately 9:35 P. M., the driver of the car left subject's home and returned to the above car with the two boys therein and they departed, driving to South Broad. They parked ata bus stop near Broadmoor Drug Store on the corner of South Broad and Washington Streets. The second boy left the car and entered the drug store. After a few minutes he returned to the car and they left, driving north on Broad Street. | The observation continued at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans, until 11:00 P. M. Subject had no other visitors during the above period. | 32 HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 271
11-N-224 12/19/62 The following observation was made at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway on November 18, 1962, commencing at 6:15 P. M. No activity was noted at this time. The subject's 1960 Ford was parked in front of his home. At 8:15 P.M, subject departed from his home leading his dog. They walked in the direction of South Claiborne for a short distance then returned and walked toward South Broad. He. returned to his home at 8:30 P. M. and entered the house with the dog. At 9:05 P. M., subject left his house, entered his car and drove to South Claiborne, turned left on Claiborne and drove north. He returned home at approximately 9:30 P. M. No activity was noted at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway and the observation was discontinued at 10:15 P. M. A spot check was made in the vicinity of Columbus and North f é phen fs Broad Streets and 1954 Ford bearing Louisiana licensé& Ethie a1 was observed parked near the corner of Columbus and North Dorgenois. No one was observed in or near this car. Spot check was made at 1311 North Prieur and nothing pertinent was observed. On November 19, 1962, a confidential source at the Motor Vehicle Division advised that 1962 Louisiana Registration 197- 173 is issued to JAMES Rs LEWALLEN, 1309 Dauphine Street, Apartment 9, HW 54756 a een eecenes re New Orleans, Louisiana, ‘for a 1954 red Pontiac ‘convertible coupe, Motor Number P8ZA55916, Louisiana Title Number M-776516, with a lien in favor of GMAC, 2926 Chesti, Cleveland, Ohio. ‘The car was 33 Docld: 322763970 Page 272
HW 54756 1L1-N-224 12/19/62 purchased new on August 30, 1954 from Tony Ditz Pontiac Company, Cleveland, Ohio, for $2,045.55. Ohio Title Number is 18421956. LEWALLEN's occupation is shown as pilot. | a “The following surveillance of the subject's residence was initiated on November 23, 1962 by JACK OLIPHANT and CHARLES BRANTON: At 7230 PB. M.; a car drove up ‘and a young ‘boy got out and. went . Map into FERRIE's apartment. (Louisiana license. 311- ~641) , At 7:40 P. M., another, car (Louisiana license 97-173) with a. young boy ‘driving arrived and the boy got out and went into the house. These two cars and boys have been to FERRIE's apartment before on November ll, 1962. | . | At 8:00 P. M. a car stopped half a block from FERRIE's apartment and the driver (about five feet five inches, two-hundred fifty pounds, forty-five to fifty years of age, wore glasses) got out and came to FERRIE's apartment. He went inside, stayed five minutes, came back out, got in his car and drove off. His license number is Louisiana 327-938. At 8:30 P. M.,. three. _persons came out and talked for ten minutes. ct retell Then the young boy in. car (311- 641) got in and left. FERRIE and the A ttre bbe - - : other male. (car 1 197-173) went back. into the apartment. ‘At 10:10 Ps Mi, FERRIE and the boy came out and another boy was with them. This is the first, time the third boy was observed. The : Keep the . two boys got ‘into car (297- +73) and left. FERRIE took his dog for 34 Docld: 322763970 ' Page 273
HW 54756 11-N-224 12/19/62 a walk. | At 10:30 P. M., the same two boys came back with a "six-pack" of beer and went back inside the subject's home. ) No activity was noted until 1:30 A. M., November 24, 1962, when the two boys and FERRIE came out of the house. Qne of the boys (the #3 boy) had some clothing wi th him. These two boys got into the car (1972173) ana drove off. — FERRIE went back in and turned off the light. The two boys were followed to Nashville and Patton Street | where the one boy got out and went into a two story house on the corner of the 600 block (Patton Street) right side going toward the river. The boy went in the front door on Nashville. The other boy drove off and headed toward town. The surveillance was discontinued . at 2:00 A. M... "On. December 3, 1962, a pretext interview was made by RONALD HUBNER at 604 Nashville Avenue to attempt to determine the identity of the -young man who was seen leaving FERRIE's apartment and going to that address on November 23, 1962. ‘An elderly woman at 604 Nashville advised that the house was owned by Dr. MC CORMACK:' He has no children and there are no young people in the neighborhood except for the son of a woman. who lives in 608 next door to Dr. MC CORMACK.’ The name of these people was given as MARTENS and the woman advised that the son is about nineteen years old and attends school in Lafayette, Louisiana and comes home only on weekends and holidays. 35 Doclda:322763970 Page 274
11-N-224 12/19/62 The city directory was searched for Mrs. MARTENS but of the three listed none are shown as residing at 608 Nashville. On December 4, 1962, a call was made to telephone information service for a phone in the name of MARTENS at 608 Nashville Avenue. The operator asked if this could be 606 instead of 608 Nashville and when told that it could be that number she said that she had ‘a MARY ELLEN MARTENS there but then said this was a non-listed number and she could not give out information about it. The following investigation was conducted by EDWARD M. DAVIS: on November 24, 1962, the following observation was made at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans, Louisiana:' The subject's car, a 1960 Ford, was ‘observed parked in front of the above address at 5:30 P.M. At 7:30 P. M., the subject departed his home and left in his car. He drove to the Broadmoor Drug Store, corner of North Broad and Washington Streets, left the car and entered the drug store. He was observed making a telephone call from the telephone just inside the above store. | At 7:40 P..M., subject returned to his home and entered the house. | “The observation was discontinued at approximately 10:00 P.M. subject had no visitors and no activity was noted other than that stated above. 36 HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 275
HW 54756 / \ 11-N-224 12/19/62 On November 25, 1962, the following observation was made at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans by EDWARD M. DAVIS: The observation commenced at 5:00 P. M. and at this time subject's automobile, a 1960 Ford, was not parked in front of his residence at the above address. | | At approximately 6:00 P. M., subject arrived at his home and left the car and entered his house. At 6:55 P. M., subject departed from his house and left in his automobile. He drove toward South Claiborne, turned right on Claiborne. _ The observation was continued at 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway and at 10:55 P. M. subject ret rned home and entered the house. At 11:15 P. M., the observation was discontinued. During the above periods, no one was observed entering or leaving the subject's home. | The Motor Vehicle Division, Louisiana Department of Revenue, 325 Loyola Avenue, advised Re Ley RISLEY on _November 26, 1962 that 1962 Louisiana registration 527-135 is listed to HENRY Je eer WINKLER, 800 Oaklawn Drive, Metairie, 1 Louisiana. This License is for : a 1962 Ford Falcon Futura. | The 1961 New Orleans meet reflects HENRY Je WINKLER, wife MAURIE, residing at 3228 st. Claude Avenue. Also, HENRY Jz) WINKLER, real estate, 3421 South Claiborne. AUDREY WINKLER, stenographic clerk,. Louisiana Division of Employment Security, is 37 Doclda: 322763970 Page 276
fc’ ? » 11-N-224 12/19/62 also listed at 3421 South Claiborne. 1962 New Orleans Suburban Area City Directory reflects no alphabetical listing for WINKLER; There is no listing for municipal number 800 Oaklawn Drive in this directory or in the telephone street address directory issued for December, 1962. PENDING 38 HW 54756 DBocld:32263970 Page 277
FROM chase Carson _ A | yo DATE duly 16,1963 _ a RE: __David W. Ferrie The records of that one case in Jefferson Parish were refused. They were viewed however, and the pertinent contents were the same statements sent to Miami yesterday in New Orleans case H-8507-61. Enclosed are the police report and the statement of John T,. Cater which make up the record in B-790-62. HW: 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 273
cle a a ~  ., Juvenile Bureau. ne os Feb 18, 1962. Item B=-7904-62 TO" Joseph I. Giarrusso _ oo on ie ae _. Superintendent of Police wn - FROM |: Major. Adolph Mayerhafer __ Supervisor of Juvenile Bureau : » SUBJECT : Investigation of Extortion, allegedely committed by David W. Ferrie WM Age 41 of 331 Atherton Drive.  - Patn Roland Fournier and Charles Jonau of the Juvenile Bureau report —_ | of having investigated a matter involving extortion, allegedly committed  — _. by David W. Ferrie WM Age 41 of 331 Atherton Drive, on Feb 16, 1962 at. . 10:00AM. Patn Fournier, the writer of this report, in company with Patn Jonau additionally report of having conducted investigations involving © _ David Ferrie in the past 4 months, which began on August 16, 1961. Officers Fournier and Jonau will be referred to as investigating officers during the remainder of this report. Oo 7 a __ Investigating officers conducted investigations in August and Seotember - of 1961, which lead to the arrest of David Ferrie, which investigations, resulted in. charges of contributing to the delinquency, indecent behavior ~ ccWith juveniles, Crime Against Nature, and Public Intimidation. Charges | _ against Ferrie, were accepted in Orleans and Jefferson parishes. In’ the ...dmpending cases against Ferrie, one Eric Michael Crouchet WM Age 16 of ».. °° 5505 Marais St., is a witness. ot — ye -. On the morning of Feb 16, 1962, investigating officer Fournier réceived ' a phone call from the father of Eric Crouchet, who complained that a friend. . Of his, John T. Cater WM age 41 of 5454 Dauphine St., had been intimidated and ‘that Ferrie had made arrangements for a meeting with Cater after tslling ~ Cater that he (Ferrie) had a proposition to discuss. Mr Crouchet exslained . to investigating officers that Cater was frightened and that Cater contacted ‘him, informing him(Crouchet) that Ferrie wanted to meet. Crouchet told’ . officers that he instructed Cater to go along with Ferrie, with the idea of ‘notifying authorities. Cater and Ferrie made arrangements to meet ct Canal ~ and Baronne St., at 10:00AM on Feb 16, 1962 in front of the Nalgreen's Drug. Store. Mr. Crouchet asked investigating officers if they would attempt to “Witness this meeting. At 9:50AM on Feb 16, 1962, officers took up a posi-~, tion at Lord's Department store for women on Canal and Baronne, across the street from the Walgreen's drug store. Immediately upon arrival, officers noticed David Ferrie standing in front of the drug store with dark glasses _ on. Officers observed that Ferrie kept walking in and out of the drugstore Lor about 10 minutes and he came outside and disappeared from officers view, ~ . after he began walking up Canal St,, in the direction of Claiborne ive... . dnvestigating officers did not attempt to pick up Ferrie again, as Yerrie ~~; . is thoroughly acquainted with them. Officers waited-until anoroximately ~ : - 32:00. noon on Feb 16, 1962 and went to the home of Mr. Crouchet, where Mr. ' Cater found. Cater had arrived shortly before the arrival of officers. -- a “Mr. Crouchet explained that Mr. Cater was a friend of his and had been .for | “<3 years. Officers observed that Cater was very nervous at the time. Cater: “stated that Ferrie had met him at the designated time an? location ané they. _had driven off ina car, operated by a subject, know to Aim only as "Butch", - Cater told officers that they drove him up Tulane Ave.,. into the Carrollton: section to a Royal Castle Restaurant. During the ride, they discussed the ~ -, eases pending against. Ferrie. Cater explained to officers that Ferrie‘asked: . : him-to get Mike Crouchet. to. change his mind about testifying against. hime Coe gs ea Pee rn Se ge ws Continuedvesecs 0. eee lees oma N HW 54756 DoclId: 32263970 Page 279
1 oo,  Page-2 Continued..... Itém B-7904~62 Cater told officers that Ferrie threatened that if Crouchet gave teste _ imony against him (Ferrie), that he (Ferrie) would get him (Cater) involved: “in’a sex ring. Cater stated that Ferrie told him that he had. affadayits by many boys who accuse Cater of having sex parties at his house. For further — details, see the attached statement made by Cater, tkken at the Juvenile ‘ Bureau by investigating officers, — net - Cater Stated additionally that the meeting took place in a Chevrolet. con— *° ‘vertible, but he did not know the make of the car. He stated that he thought © » the car belonged to the subject known as Butch. Cater said also, that; he had ° _ never known or seen Capt Dave Ferrie in all his life and that he didn't under-: »: Stand how Ferrie had obtained his name and phone number at work. oe . ' Investigating officers constted with Assistand District Attorney Richard “Seither in this matter and he advised officers to question Ferrie and. present ~@ report to the District Attorney's office. Investigating officers went to. the home of David Ferrie at 331 Atherton Drive, at 3:30PM on Feb 16,.1962-in - company with Sgt. Joseph Behrens of the Jefferson parish sheriff's office. | _On-arrival of officers at the home of Ferrie, it was observed that several boys were standing around the front lawn of Ferrie's residence. Ferrie came. to the door and invited officers to enter. Upon entering, officers recognized. Lawrence Marsh WM Age 19 of 4404 Majestic Oaks St. in Gretna, La., known to : _tne officers as "Butch", in previous investigations. Ferrie was placed under arrest. Ferrie admitted being downtown at Canal and Baronne at 10:00AM on = 2-16-62, but refused to say why he had gone to this location. He stated only that he had gone to meet somebody. Lawrence Marsch stated that he had driven Ferrie in his Chevrolet convertible to meet someone, downtown at 10:00AM 2-16-62, but would not say any thing more about the meeting. Officers observed the Chevrolet: convertible La-62 license 107-828, parked in the front yard of Ferrie's residence. Ferrie was booked at the east bank jail and was immediately taken to the First District Station by investigating officers and dooked with RS 14 Artitle 66 relative to extortion. He refused to answer questions on © advise of his attorney, = ——— wR John Cater is a.male nurse, who lives alone. He has been maried anvis. di- vorced. He has a teen age son who is in the military service. Mr. Crouchet | stated that Mr. Cater has been more than a good friend for over 3 years. Cater stated that he has no police record and has never been arrested,” He. was asked by officets if Ferrie could prove the accusations and he stated —_— that Ferrie positively could not. re Bo On Sunday Feb 18, 1962, Cater came to the: Juvenile Bureau and informed. | investigating officers. that he had received a phone call from two boys, one. — of.whom stated that he was calling from Ferrie's residence. The phone=:call, - , _according to Cater, was made at about 4:00PM on Feb 16,°1962, a short while afte: Ferrie was arrested. Cater told officers that the boys asked him if hethad © made a statement against Ferrie and asked him why he made it. The boys told: . ‘him that Ferrie was only trying to help all boys who are involved in. the im- ‘pending cases in Orleans and Jefferson parish. courts, and that Ferrie was’. also trying to help him (Cater).- The telephone conversation ended and-'Cater identified one of. the boys as Alvin Bobach(Phoneticly spelled), a boy whom. .. he had met previously ata Skating rink, . Ee Continued. Ceoscceece | HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 2760
“After the discussion, Butch and Ferrie drove me to Flood and Burgundy and shortly after the police arrived. » Qe ° A. Qe A. Q AS . Q< Ae ---talk.to me. Some other boys, whom I don't knowad who didn't- as a them that i wasn't interested. 7 Qe JA. Qe ‘A. Yes ‘Had you ever known the boy named Butch? It was about 12:00 Noon. I walked over to Mr. Crouchet's house » “How long have you known the Crouchet family? - About 3 years. I visit them regularly and they visit mee Had you known Ferrie before this incident? Never saw him before in my life. No, only by sight. I have seen him at a Skating. rink in the paste | Is there anything more you would like to add? . At about 4:00PM on Feb 16, 1962, I received a phone call at my | house from Alvin Bobach. I boy’ I. know from the Ekating rink. © I asked him where I was and he stated that he was at Dave Beets” houses He stated that he had someone on the line who wanted to- identify himself, spoke with me and asked if I had made a statement | to the police. I told him knox. He told me that Dave Ferrie was- trying to help me and the other boys. He told me that the police _ had been to Ferrie's house and picked him up. He asked me if I. had ever heard the police threated to kill Ferrie, get even with © him or make remarks about him. The conversation, ended when I told Do you have any idea how Ferrie ‘got your name and phone number aan ~ Work? | data Is this statement true and cyprect to the best of your knowledge? mi oo Statement ‘taken in the: presence of Patn Roland Fournier and Charlés. Syne ‘typewriten and completed at 9:00AM Feb 18, 1962 by Patn Fournier. - “> Te was necessary in this matter to begin the statement on Feb 16, 1962 ° ay .and to complete it on Sunday, Feb 18, 1902. oa HW 54756 Docld: 32263970 Page 251
ou - - Page=3 = Gontinued..... Item B«7904,-62- Investigating officers feel that Cater is being used by Ferrie intorder* .~ that Ferrie can gain an acquittal... in his impending cases in tlie courts |. of Orleans and Jefferson parishes. . Wo _ Investigating officers would also point out that Cater onte hung | - ground a skating rink and knew many young boys, which include Bobach,’and Marsch, whom Cater knew only as "Butch", Thus, Cater would be a good target .- for Ferrie's threats and intimidation.. Officers checked the Police Bureau ~* of Identification and found that they have no record on John Caters... °° The District Attorney will be consulted... po _ Patn Roland Fournier 2. Approvedsesy, . 2... Major Adodph A. Mayerb4fer en _ - Supervisor: of Juveni e Bureau. rpft a HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 232
Se Juvenile Bureau ae Feb 16, 1962 “Statement of John T. Cater WM dge 41, residing 5454 Dauphine Ste, relative to an investigation of intimidation and threats. a _ STATEMENT =e _ i, John Cater, without threata@ or promises, make the following state= * . ment and will answer all questions asked of méo De ; ee I was working at 2016 State St., in a private home on Thursday night ee - + FPeb 15, 1962, and I received a phone call at about 8:30PM, from aman | ’..who asked me " do you know who this is" I told him that I had.a good ..-- ‘idea and he said "I'd like to meet you tomorrow", "I have a proposition".. I. suspected. that it was David Ferrie on the phone, because I had bee 7 | about him and the trouble he was causing between Mkmkaxfz Mike CLOcHét" aod other bo#s. I was nervous about him calling at my work and I didn't know what to do, so I just told him that I would meet him. He asked me _ where was a good place to meet and I told him Walgreen's on Canal Street, - because I was familiar with the location as I past this place every daye — . I picked. this place because it was safe and I didn't want to be along “ “with this mane He hung up after a short conversation. ae 7 ‘I tried to get Mr. Crouchet that same night but changed my miad because -. [didn't want to disturb them. I called Mr. Crouchet this morning about . 8:00AM to tell him what had happened. Mr. Crouchet told me to go ahead ' and meet Ferrie and said thet he would notify the polices . .. (I met Ferrie this morning at the dgsignated time and place at 10:00AM. ' He told me he had a car, and that "Butbh was with, him and we would take —. aridee We got in the car, which wax park by the curb on, Can.i. directéy a dn front of the center theatre. It looked like a Chetrolet coavertible — _. 0 me and Butch was driving ite Ferrie wanted to drive around the block | “because he was expecting some kid to meet him there. The kid didn't show — _ up, so then wez drove up Tulane Avenue into the Carrollton section and | ‘we started talking while driving. We'drove to some Royal Castle rest~ -urant, but I don't remember where it was because I was nervous an unfamilaar with the neighborhood. Ferrie talked about his case and _ explained to me that if Mike Crouchet would not testify, no one would _ get into trouble. He stated that he had affadavits against me and xhex | ~Grouchet and the hockey players at the skating rink. He stated that it would be very serxious for us, if the Crouchet boy testified“against — _ him. . He asked me to get Mike to change his mind, not talk, and testify _ -» against him. He stated that he was doing this only to help all the boys ~ who are involved, because he was interested in boys. .. Te, Ferrie stated to me that he had affadavits from boys who had been to. — my house on several occasions on sex parties. ‘He stated that he was. - -. going to get Mike and his brother Courtland: involved in a sex ring, = and was making implications to make me believe that he had affadavits -. against me for having sex parties at my house. He told me that.T | -was Closer to*the Crouchet family to anybody and he told me that... - should have influence over them. I was wondering at the time how ~ Ferrie came to know that I was good friends with. the Crouchet family. _ He gave me his phone number which was a-¥ernon number, which I have - at home. He told me to call him and let him know the results of what I could do for him. Butch heard the antire conversation between Ierrie -. and me. He even butted in and stated that he had been to my house too. -- I can say definately that Butch had never been to my house. I don't . even known his real name. We did most of the talking while riding in. _ “the car.. We did not do much talking after we went in to get aicup of - ~ Coffees 8 oe oh ©. § Continuedeecisece wo ES ete SRST HW 54756 Docld:322763970 Page 233
Maw Orleans Folice verartncat , AG oe So Javecile Sur:aa Bast 83, 1961 | Itea Beaso7-g) me Statenent of dances Landry (4 age 16 pesiding st 2008 Dunaine use _. Palaotiva to Capt. Deve fersio #H ara 43 scolding at 331 Atherton De eentributing to the Geilayuenay af Juveniles. ° The Below Gtatement will ba in question and answer form ‘gues Sioos Be 9 bo esked by Pata Charles Jounu and snstars to be given. by Jeses Landrys - &e. Do yea kaon Capt Dave Forrie? a ne Se Yes air, . _ Ls ; oo Re Hen did yoa get to aset bint oo a _ oe a, Throseh oy Cataor tho wore2 at the Lestesn Airlines wheres Cept. Ferrie - Ge Yere you a sender of tha vivil 4dr Patrol thet Capt. ferris waa in censand of? | ; : : pS | ae Yoo oie, the etairia Peioon “ca cd P One Se Dld you evor attend my partice af Cayte Forzie’s home on Atherton opt & Yes Bir. oo, — Coon wo Shat happeaed at thass parties? - Ao .Foll, 0&8 ong sf tho parties wo brecsht our datos end danced and bad pee whiskey aad Boor $5 delat, ALL tao fo3% af the partisa “ere stag farties “es we AY all bho pasties you weet to at Sept. Ferrie%s REaé, wore you ellowed — to dpisk shiszoy and boar? , 2 a Ae Yeo pir, tha dt woolly occas Peeslca, It wes just a getetogether . after the acathecds Le we Hove you ever sees any ebaucae, lood op &ioty pletares at the hong ef Caste Forric? . a 40 Yeo sive, I sau soca of these omall eomds tocks with people fucking ang Re hed sana phstesraphs the Capt. sald thet wore Tron Yoxles thet ~~ had 6 gaa ead wenck esroulag. SS - Ge. baa yea ever ceo any boy dzuck at Capt. Forria’s keno after a perty O29 , eek 4 ZI was high a Gesplo of tiasa, 4 Locézy vas high, 6 drank at es3% ce tRs parties I wost to. . - So *bat aeath sad day a14 those pertios tere place? Bo aaa _ de Ball, bo bod = pasty Christass Evo e? 1660 end of hed whiskey ead bers. - Go Whe was of Gals perky? CO a do Ai Lenisy was there. Dennis Aichenis wea thare fos a Litele ehile. Latea Uosteas ea9 thera, Fhoy dddatt eeve oa BLL Ro Esw 4d yoa ges 8 eco these platusss yea acathoned before, ths lead Letapes? a a, (40 Tho Cam, handed Shen to a3 and tela ao to look at thea, | Ceatiecsd | HW 54756 Docld:32263970 Page 264
JUVENILE SURZAU, EAST JEFFERSON PARISH AUGUST BY 22, 1961 ichael Crouchset we Stigation of ecrins of a juvenile, Su 331 Atherton Briy ptatoment of Eric M --i ° relative to an inve _ to the delinquency -: Ferrde YK Age 42 of @ AR: BANK POLICE wo Age 16 residing 5505 Marais St. against nature and contributing | - ject under investigation fs David | » Metairie, La . Be | Statement _ So io Erie Crouchet and I witnout wing statement and will ansverg Ky nae ' Lolle Re Do you know Capt David Ae Yes, he is a pilot with Qe Whon did you f A. It was about 1 Civil Air Patrol. Q. Can you tell us anythin A. When I first joined the ~. be @ let of drinking parties, so I ware like, and I found out wien I wickey and beer drinks at onc ef th Cadets house, and Capt Forris left with 3 boys. Sinse was heavy drinking and Ca Ferris of 33 Eastern Air irst moet Cant. Ferri & abdout your outfit, I Roy ot trae | R pt Ferrie. .\ these parties. I did so much drink “Ns ) @n @lecsholies. Kost of the star dcr \ {7° house when he lived on Airling bark Va Cao night Gapt Forric rented th: ~ "Lor a Kaudi Gras party, for party, and there wore abouzr 30 kids Gras of 1960 and about 3 or 4 after tho Maudi Cras, Iwcxs to hk? wont out riding ond had a foy dein Wo wore drinking chile Were and ho bouzht ms air be Yo Park at 63U0AM and eo ex with just writins in is, fas going to Jerk off. Capt Ferris elimbed en 6 Ee had a discharge en mo later I wort ever to his house aze book and let mo read it, Ho jorke the sama tins, end chen I had my 4 one menth lator, from drill and ee z S wey MS Ly ORD ~ S23 ey : Pans Mw vorpia Oyo OM and thon d Right at his h inte tha diseussien of jerking 6 i? we over forked off and dine GUS85 and Loyten sala Ce 4 on you in the oys. I notfeed when Were spots ever ths reall asd ft wont to mw ae ww SO then I hays %! Zolaut Room at the boys oud girls. “here tha of us, 4 % ‘ eure te Wid rp es Sh ad tezosher. Sp of me and put his penis on SO wont to sleep. ia, and Capt Parrie issharge he was Cast Porrie, Leyton had jJuot taken Carl ~ to take Leyten hore and Perrig achod » and Leyton aked Cc have. eneugh te como out i vas in Capt Ferries, house all over his dre threats or promises make the’ ~ @li questions asked of me. 1 Atherton D Lines. a? rive in Metairie? - 4 to 2 years ago, after Hallowsen, wnen I joined the | xnowledge of Capt. Ferrie? . ound out that there were going to ~ trisa to find cut what the parties y first party. There Ward _ & parties held at ane of the fenale After the party Capt Ferrie - gone to many parties where there i have gone to about 10 or 15 of © 4g at this tina, that I almost became inking parties wore held at Capt Perri Blvd., and some on Atherton Drive. New Orleans Airport Thot had plenty beer at the % nignt. That was Maudi -- “ho really got drunk. Teo woeks Ouse on Airling Park Blyde, and we: Capt Porrie bought the drinks and | ge We wont te the Now Orleans A So Capt Perrio*s house a% Airling ~ Cast Parrie showed ma a book & cony ustory and he told mrs that he asked go 12 I wag Boing to jork off. . top of my logs. . A ccuple of wooks ~ gave me tbo wane orked himself off at ooxing at it. Abeut myself wos going heng ~~ Costa hems. eo wore gotting ready Loyten 1f ho wanted: to Spend the Sivight. While in the Cal, oO got % for eneush to hit. that there _ coor, End 1% lockod like | s 2 oo i ° Bs e) me off and ho Farten, and a@iosharge spose. Tho shroa of ES Creve to Cope Ferrig®g hots and Layton Sicst im tha living reson and no ond Cape Ferrie went to Cant Ferrio%s . _  weercem. Cant Ferrie jerked zo off and ao jJorked himself off. After that I went to Continuodesercce HW 54756 “Docld:32263970 Page 285 Sleep and she noxt morning, whon ‘Woke up, Capt Forrie had his _
i, i}. ihe i as a rg | merge net Statement of Janes Landry continued page Beceeceeccceccessreceees ve Did you ever spend the night at Capt. Ferrie's hone? 4. Yos sir, chout soven tines. | Qo Who dia fou sloep with whoa who stayod at the Captain's home? oe Ae Capt. Yorrlo. ; oe bo. oe Qe Did you ove havo any sex rolations with the Captain while you were Catt ', Sleeping with him? — . oO . _ ane A. Yos sir, I was sloopiag with the Captain ani I woke up and he wag _ gerking ae off. While he was Jerking me off he jorked himself off. Qe Bo you reanenbor what day this happsned? ; A. I can't remeber the date but he BEEZ jerked me off about thres _ thmeas a | BO : Q Do yoa know of eny other boys that the Captain had sez relations with? ‘A. Bosire 4 - Ss Qe Ie there any thing else that you haven't told me pertaingns to the © — &etivties at Capt Dave Ferrie'’s home? | A. Ko sir that’s all. | . ee Qe Is tho above statenont trns to the best ef your knowledge, and aid you ' . Give this statenent freely of your own wikll withous threats or premises? -. Pho above statenont was. taken ia the dgavenile Bureau by Patn, Cahrles - @opea in the pressace of Pata, Soland Foarnter of tho Juvenile Parean. ., Statement senploted at 1u:csay — | a é il AW 54756 0 Docld:32263970 Page 266.
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GS The New Orleans Chapter of the Military Order of the World Wars held its oo regular meeting at Lenfant's Boulevard Room, 5236 Canal Boulevard, on 24 July 1961. The meeting was called to order at 1900 hours, Se a PRESIDING: Rear Adm. T. J. Ryan, Jr. PLEDGE: . Capt. Gayle Schneidau, Jr. PREAMBLE: | Capt. Francis Grevemberg INVOCATION; — Col. Lansing L. Mitchell The Commander called for the introduction of guests and roll call, «nd welcomed one new member present and attending the meeting for the first time, and explained to him the purpose and objective of the Order. There were 70 members and 5 guests present. (See attached list) an ' In the absence of the Adjutant, Col, Frank Spiess read the minutes of the previous meeting and the membership approved the minutes as read, The Treasurer's report for the month :: june was read showing a cash balance . of $1,057.06 as of 30 June 1961. There being av objection, the report of the Treasurer © was received and filed, Commander Ryan reported for the Chairman of the Americanism Committee that the Times-Picayune had accepted the "Fly the United States Flag" campaign, obtained 3, 000 flag kits, and will runa large ad in the paper on 6 August 1961. The target day to have everyone possible fly the flag is Veterans Day, 11 November. — The recommendation of the Nominating Committee, in a letter dated 13 July, .~ to the Chapter Commander and signed by Captain Neville Levy as Chairman, was read by Lt. Colonel Harrie Pearson, Vice-Chairman, (See attached letter, ) Captain Francis Grevemberg moved that the nominations be received for action at the meeting of the Executive Committee Council and by the membership at -its next meeting. This was seconded by Captain Gayle Schneidau. The motion was unanimously carried, - Commander Julian 3. Humphrey, designated as notary to prepare and pass the Articles of Incorporation of the Military Order of the World Wars, reported that all of the incorporators have signed the Act of Incorporation and taat the Act has been recorded in the Mortgage Office for the Parish of Orleans, and that a certificate of recordation anda copy of the Act has been forwarded to the Secretary of the State of Louisiana for recordation in his office; that as soon as the certificate of the Secretary HW 54756 DoclId:322763970 Page 290
of State is received, it will be forwarded to the Commander, Under the law of. Louisiana, since the Act of Articles of Incorporation have been recorded in the Mortgage Office of the Parish of Orleans, the Military Order of the World Wars is as of this date authorized to function as a corporation. ; The speaker of the evening, Captain D. W. Ferrie, Senior Pilot, Eastern Airlines, spoke on Cuba - - April 1961, Present, Future. At the opening of his presentation, he indicated his talk would be controversial. When partly through the presentation, the Commander rose, apologized for interrupting the speaker, and told him the tenor of his remarks, up to that point, were contrary to the preamble and objectives for which the Military Order of the World Wars stands and that if he wished he could speak, not as our guest speaker, but as 4 private citizen and to the members present:as private citizens after adjournment of the ‘Meeting. Captain Ferrie determined he would stop his presentation, — Commander Ryap then formally adjourned the meeting in accordance with . the prescribed ritual at 2100 hours. FRANCIS A, WOOLFLEY ee rank G. Spi igy’s HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 291
Reoort of Zrveotipation. a Date of investigation: February 15, 1963 | Subject: David Willian Ferrie - | Synopsis: The Moat Reverend flancia (haisdophen { : da Stanley, HW 54756 Church’ of North America, Louisville, Kentucky advised that — on the accasion of being asked to consecaate David William. Fenie. as a Bishop in the (Aur Aunch (as above), He (Stanley) 7 Learned ) from a friend that Ferrie had been accused of - ; 7 comnitting overt acts of unnatural sexual behavior and on. — the basis of this information (Stanley) nefused: to perfoan — consecration ceranony and on the basis. of this sane infor~ - : mation, Later, took the initiative a excommunicate Feaie prom the (hunch. oe Details of inventt gation oe , - This investin gation was promoted by receipt of a Lletten dated | Febauany 7, 1963 3 from fila. Charles R. (arson, Manager, New Orleans Uffice, Southenn Research Company, Ine., S08 lianitine Building, New Onkeans 12, . . . . ? . . ae / UPL a La. requesting information concerning action taken by "Chancellox.'s : Office, Holy Catholic Apostolic C/uach, Sacred (ong greyation of 2. (onsistony, Patriarch of Artivch, (unch of Noath Anenrica, 607 &... Noe Avenue, Louisville //, Kentucky" ¥ Rei repens the @ pensonatiny of David witlian — nF ebruany 15, 1963, J intervieu eet the {host Reverend iilaria CF (hristophen ( CG § 4d) ti. Stanley, who fui'er identified himself as Archbishop iletropodizan of foootolic Onthodox Ole! Katholic (hunch of North Anerica, — with headquarters at 4226 West Broaduc.. Louisville 11, Kentuck: yy { former addness ¢ being 603 Cecet Avenue, Louisy..Le 11, Kentucky). - { cored) Docld:32263970 Page 292
David Willian Ferrie - page 2 Reverend Stanley told me that this nelipious onganization (as stated above) was an offshood of the Roman (Catholic (hunch and was completely | independent and in no uay affiliated officially with the Roman (atholic © » Crunch, He fuathen said that his particular independent orden had its | oninin in Germans, He also neferred to an active affiliate in (anada. © » The dueLling at 4226 West Broadway, Louisville, serves as the headquarters for the onder ard is also used as his residence and hao a amall section : designated asa 1 chapel unere he holds services | | Reverend Stenler y was todd the purpose of my visit in thak ik concenned. the personalit yy of Lavid tillian Ferrie and, in particular, the onigin of | a detter emanating from a source considered to be that of his office a a. high official of the (hunch of uiich Ferrie was also off Hated and = fae which was excommunicated. Refenence uas madz to a Letina: dated January 9, 1962, from the Chancellon's Office, Province of oath Asenica, 603 (ecik Avenue, Louisville 11, Kentucky unich advised that Ferrie uaa "deonaded and cast out of the -. clergy and Church in America" Reverend Starkey infonmed me that he unote . the deklen negerred to above and that it vas send 40 the office of Easienn. | Airlines in lew Onlears for tie purgose of ‘nequesting the return of contain (furch | property thak was ina. to Ferrie as an offecia’ of the Crunch and thak US used an consi: CAH Wi, DORVLCESD and business of the ( (hunch Reverend Stanley said thar mentioned the neason for requesting the neturn og tie PRODRAL ~ Zndk 4 was eceasany due zo the excommunication og Ferrie - from ne { Chunchr fon REBSONS of alleged acts of unnatunrak 6 OXLE aelations | inposed ugon ciildnen, Reverend Stariey said that he Learned of Fernie througr (r« Right fost Reverend iilonaieur John 5. itaréin, Eishop zo the Apostolic Unthodox Ud Catholic (hunch of ‘loath Anenri.ca, utose address do (3IIN. Prieune Street, Mew Orleans, Louisiana (te: leohone Whitenall 4 2123 (?) J. Reverend 1 Stanley said thak Reverend iitctin was ondained as a Priest (by Séartler/) on Sune 9, 1960 and wan duter ondained as a Bishop (by. , ‘Storley). Reverend fiantin and Fe. 22Ne friends and jilankin was instrunentad in effecting Fenrrie’s © fps “otal fo- fe an r the (funch, he 54756 Docld:32263970 Page 293
. Accoading, the Reverend Stanley, Martin performed the necessary ceranonies | in marking Ferrie a sub-Deacon, Deacon, and Priest of the (hunch. J£uas - 3. flantin who requested Reverend Siarley to consecnake Feuie ¢ asa 2 Bichop. oe . Upon being nequested to perform tre cerenony of conserrating Feria: . asa Bishop, Reverend Stanley made some inguinies concening the character and neputation °F Fenie and deanned from a tix, George Wallace (utom Stanley’. had } Rroun through the Veterans of Foneign tians) that Ferrie had been accused of unnatunad sexual behavior and had been fined by fasten Airlines. This aroused the suspicion of ° Stanley and ke called the "Superintendent" (name nod necatled bud thought to be oF Gernum descent - Séankey tried while JI wis talking to him 0 obtain the name og the person from the Louisville ofgice of Castern fintines but of no avail) of the Eastern Airlines ofgice 7 in louisville and congiuned the Aepord hak Ferrie had been discharged a an enalouee. (Wellace's address was not available fron Séarley) Ferrie, accompanied Cy Naat, wwe. x! in Louisville on Novenbenr 30, 1961 fon the purpose of bein coniecnads. ua a Bishop of the. (Crunch | Stanley, indicated his unbil lingress zo comply and voiced dis:cnn0val of the personal behavion of Ferrie as neported to him Stante: told Fernie that he intended 40 excommunicate him (Pennie) from the (fRunrch jon reason. of behavior unbecoming t0.a Church official This aroused anger. on. the part of both Ferrie and filartin, Stanley, seid that when Fourie anived in . - t . ot >, , louisville that he appeared to ba snvomec’ «then pecuciarly expecially . : . foe Hat: o 4ince re us wearin, a ' win” thes ve pee wcted on with Seoteh ( brand) Le. ? ‘ } , ft Stanley, ahso said that Merkin an Seer be vn to use "devious metre" anc ! te / n the f ? wren quenrriect Oy me Gs LO tris, wevtheye Lhe / that he (ic landin) at #0208 had CURLAX A Gin Novice. AG KREDOAA PS © EP ROOKT ASS bean an anvestiyuton ee rut, ( conés raed) HW 54756 Docld:32263970 Page 294
11 =N-224 y 11/19/62 - SYNOPSIS _ CONTINUED Bfforts continuing to confirm association and obtain movies of activities. DETAILS: Investigation in this matter, is predicated upon a request dated November 1, 1962 from Mr. THOMAS cs TOLAN, (245 Bast 55th Street, New York, New York, to Mr. CHARLES R. CARSON, Southern Research Company » Inc., 808 Maritine Building, New Orleans, Louisiana, requesting that organization Setermine the history and status of criminal charges ‘pending in. Jefferson Parish, Louisiana. against a former Bastern Aix Lines pilot, Ceptaia. paviD WILLEAM FRRIB, 331 Atherton Drive, Metairie, Louisiana. | a | | _TOLAN © advised that. PeRRIB was employed as a 2 pilot for Bastern ‘Air Lines, Inc. until: nis. arrest’ by Jefferson Parish authorities on August 8». 1961. for indecent exposure. An additional charge of contributing to the. delinquency of | a. ‘minor was, filed there pugust 22, 1961. Information has. been’ ‘received that. ‘these pending charges are to be dismissed and that FERRIE ‘antends ‘to ‘opply- to Bastern for xeinstate- ment to flying duties, as welt as | for back pay. ‘The history and status of these charges, as ; well as. “information concerning why they are to be. dismissed, was requested ‘by | Mr. TOLAN. He also: requested that, where feasible, complaining witnesses ce HW 54756 DBocld:322763970 Page 295
HW 54756 11-N-224 11/19/62 interviewed for background of the case and to determine if any pressure has been exerted by anyone to have the case dismissed. A complete surveillance of the subject was requested in order to deternine his present employment and activities. and te determine if these activities might show a behavior pattern which would disqualify FERRIS for reinstatnent with Eastern Air Lines. on November 25 1962, ERS be RISLEY reviewed the central records file of the Identification Bureau, Headquarters, ‘Louisiana State Police, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and the following eriminal record was obtained for DAVID WILLIAM FERRIB: FBI ves 367 By Louisiana State Police #553861: | | CONTRIBUTOR OF: NAME AND —«s ARRESTED OR. oo FINGERPRINTS NUMBSR RECRIVED CHARGE DISPOSITION sO, Gretna, La. DAVID W. FERRIB 8/3/81 ‘Contrib. to Del. (None shown). #9729 . of a Juv., Carnal © 7 Knowledge . SO, Gretna, La. DAVID WILLIAM 8/22/61 Indec. behavior, (None shown) oo _  - FBRRIB #9729 Crime against | De Ce , . Nature, Contrib. to Del. of a Juv. ‘PD, New Orleans DAVID WILLIAM — 3/16/62 Ret to extortion Pending ba, _ PERRIB #107062 | _ AT New ORLEANS, LOUISIANA . the Identification files of the New Orleans Police Department were reviewed November lL, 1962 by RONALD HUSNER and an index card lecated which reflects that DAVID WILLIAM FERRI, white, male, born Doclda: 322763970 Page 296
11-N-224 11/19/62 March 28, 1918, was arrested under Police Item Number B-7904-62, on February 16, 1962, by Patrolmen ROLAND FOURNIER and CHARLES JONAU of the First District, end that FERRIE was subsequently charged on. Affidavit 173-891, with violation of Louisiana Revised Statutes 14, Article 66, Paragraph 2, relative to extortion. This charge is presently pending. An effort was made at this time to review the actual investigative file but officials advised the file could not be released for review without. the signed permission ox: the Judge of the Juvenile, Court or the District. Attorney. No curther effort was made to see the file through these sources. — - On November 5, 1962, records of the New Orleans ‘Retailers credit Baresu were examined by Be Me DAVIS, and reflect the following 7 information: | | - “There” was no personnel form in file on subject FERRIES He is assigned Code #600. As of September, 1957, his address listed was 4615 Orleans Avemie, employed by Hastern Air Lines. Former addresses HW 54756 were listed as 1302 Clay Street, 209 vinet,, 704 Airline Park. As of april, 1962, his address was Listed as 3330 Louisiana Avenue, employed by. G. We RAY uild, presumable Attorney Ge WRAY GILL, previous address Listed as 331 Atherton Drive, Metairie, Louisiana. Two news articles captioned as. : follows: “Metairie Man Arrested Again", dated February a, (1962; “Ferrie Innocent of one charge", dated Pebruary 28, 1962. Judge LEO We MC CUNB, Jefferson Parish Docld: 322763970 Page 297
HW 54756 11-N~224 11/19/62 Juvenile Coux ty was presiding Judge on latter case. The following claims for collection were in the above files. F 600, June 13, 1962, Dr. DAVID W. FBRRIE, 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans 15, Louisiana, UPtown 891-9309, Southern Bell. Telephone. Company, $104, 83, employment listed. as Research Psychologist; F-600, DAVID. We FERRIE, October 26, 1962, Louisiana Power & Light, Metairie, $15.28, address 3330 Louisiana Avenue, New Orleans 25, Louisiana, ex-address 331 Atherton Drive, Metairie, Louisiane. Cries-Cross Directory reflects telephone assigned to 3330 Louisiana Avenue Parkway , is TW. 9-7048. Call made to this number reflects that subject is unknown and: this telephone number is not at the above address any | longer, | | The following was observed at 331 Atherton Drive, Metairie, Louisiana, on November 2, 3 and 5, 1962: | 1954 Oldsmobile sedan parked in yard at the above address, bearing 1962 Louisiana License 325-644. The following autos were — parked next door, at Lakeside: 1962 Oldsmobile, light green, 1962 Louisiana license 981-261; Ford Fairlane, 1962 Louisiana license . | 212-668} Ford Station Wagon, 1962 Louisiana license 212-667. None of the above cars were registered to DAVID W. FERRIES No activity of a pertinent nature was observed at the above address on any of the above dates. Docld: 322763970 Page 2965
HW 54756 11-N-224 11/19/62 On November (5S, 1962, a secretary in Gy WRAY GILL's office telephonically advised that FERRIE was employed by that office but she did not know his address. or telephone mumber. It should be noted that information ¢ was received fron another source that GILL was acting as attorney for FERRIS and FERRIB was doing investigative. worl for GILL in partial payment of his tee. A name | check of the Motor Vehicle Division, State of Louisiana, on November ee 1962 by GEORGE Le RISLEY reflects the following data concerning the subjects Title Number M-2411955 is issued to DAVID We FERRIE, 331 Atherton Drive, ‘Metairie, Louisiana, for a 1960 Ford Tudor Sedan, Motor Number A31V150735, purchased as a used vehicle on June 2, 1960 for an amount of $2,518.56. This car was financed by General Finance Corporation, 4135 South Carrollton Avemie, New Orleans, Louisiana. The 1962 Louisiana registration for this ear is 300-601. The alphabetical listings at the Motor Vehicle Division also reflect a 1959 Ford is currently registered to a DAVID We FERRIE, IRey. whose current ‘residence is shown as USMC, ‘uss Mathes, AKA~96, San Francisco, California. PERRIE, JR. is listed as a . Lieutenant in the U. $. Marine Corps, and his home address on the auto title is 11 Prospect Street, Alexandria, Louisiana. mis car has Motor Number B9LS144716 and bears 1962 Louisiana registration 945-522. DoclId: 32263970 Page 299