Released under the John F. Kennedy Assassination 
Records Collection Act of 1992 
(44 USC 2107 Note) 
NW 53216 6/17/17
104-10227-10005 Book ad Autust 1965 - ~ancd August 1965 4 x 2 L: 1. TRANSLATION | B. Before BURGI arrived dong with KOZLOV, thére was the chick of the Directorate; his friend, ZUIVAGA, Chiof of. the Second Direc tora: ((in Kiev}}-at-that tind. | ani ae Ae I know ‘that. you: rouénbered that none vory well; we also now. Abie, ‘T am, ‘asking. what you did: with nuner _ for the portod of 3a ‘days ‘when: you were taere: , 7 , Your setivity during this 5 tine, directly with BURGI. B. Oh, directly. with _BuRGI ws after talking with his ty -on the followin: day.... roman me—emenncame wes a reas mica id mare etd hc werey: cove tye aan Sur A. Who was - “tala B, KOULOV, ((B'é surnane))..- A. What specifically did you talk about with him. Give me one example. . no oO ee BR. I do not remember; Ido not reinember. A. ((Pause)) What did “oZLoy tally about. B. I do sot remember;-I do not remeuber -- he talked about many ‘fos things. | They began with how he liked his stay in the Soviet Unton, how he enjoyed the Soviet Union, then about tourist service. Then, gradually they went over to: it may be disagreeable, but
104-10227-10005 . oe ee eg tg oe — - 4. And dts at yO siow iii jeans Te You, A. And how did he read to thiis. : B. Woll, how -- vory unplcasant, ; z : “A, Was his. ass -scon, i . ii ee a * mogip a . . BR, Well, of courso, ft wis bare ((courhs))., of wo AL C(Pausey) W611, what, elso. . i BD. Well, Wo: lod: up ‘to. ‘the’ foundation that, “You geo, you, have: A noble. Po : ‘' ; mias ton: you ‘teach; vou. have students, students who BE spec bali: mAs fia co ‘a and ‘perhaps. wie do: BO ‘on: Runa; WAL be “diplosats , ‘and so forth, - i 8 : | “put ninny of’ ‘thodo- ied he used. vr these students could: : i}. be used in. AntoLtienee.-: . AntelLizencey they, may. be -talen. for’: 1 Aork in intelligence; thoy nay be sent witi various assent 20° | .. and so- forth. od ee "Well, ieEey ‘let. us: may that” you are toncatae:., Me .. pire par ine: | ; students vito in the. futwre couka be, Aised ine cove: mat worl.” s Well, ha- conta tell us: nian tho ‘vesignment of stucents and so fort i these kinds of qucs stions, nan Little things... teannot tell youn. A. “Well, this was the flirs st ‘eoursrsatton, the first conversation, yos ; B. No, well, tu this conversation, the first conversatton, we dotted the i's, Inthe first conversation, se dotted the i's. He did not arroee, in anyfray when, ue van told ko siciley Rewtet intelligence. ce ile was told -- “You understand, it is a broad tem -- to help ‘ Sovict intelligence, of courso." | ; : I reneaber I said to hin, "Understand; no one will ask you that yo::
104-10227-10005 oe ee So _ GQ. Ko, uo, no, no, mo, A, When did. you rective the photuprapha 8.0 On the following day, ff se@end... - “ We asked that thoy bo developed danced tate Ly . A. What then. What steps Fe taken, BR, Tis’ WAS reported ‘to GUS'KOV,. to KOZLOV; it was shovn to PERFIL'YEV, malt o | AL It ms cepa Boalt to Gus'xov, to OZLOV, ‘to PERFILSYEY . _ : And to’ whom else . . ; ny B. Well, that iii nu... and. they hoyan... wrote a report, A, Well, wrote a report for what. vm: ” B. Sor thd recruvtncat, (A. For the reerul tert. * Bb, The recruitment talk, A. For the recruitment or for the TockuL enone talk. B. That is the same thing. A. 6The sane thing? B. Tne recruitment talk is the recruitment... a It is another thing wren you ara carrying on a reerditecnt talk, and you do not know if the recruitment will be acconpi ished or not. troops A report is not written on a recruitment talk, 28 ig Ed a oy = a] 4 is 4 % ¢ 7 L % 5 = E i ; i z
ue 104-10227-10005 oo . fe Noll for thu cvcrmmltnent oe “Tani: for. your sanct ton, ae The report was addressed to SETOV. A. Who steed the report?. dt. GRIBANOW. 4. Who else. -: _ BR.  PERFIL'YEV ateney at the hotton, and algo thoro was FEKLISOV's sirnature. , es - AG. So. - = ; - : os ere . 4 Mace os Then did you actually, or tn fact open the filo on nuRGr. R. whey did not open a file on hin. Before 1960... . here fe a detatl -- on recruitment talk . and. etn recruitnents, we did not open files.- on 2 ate en ae i” Dut n whole collection of naterials wn stamped Top Secret; Sories "K . WA addressed to BAYAROYS” IY, and. tha, having already received the naterinls -- tho First Department. a , (AL Mell, alright; wait. a ainute -=. what. = ‘ : Did they not open a file on MURGI botebe 1960, or did they ‘not open ; any file at all he fore 1360. ‘ Bg. Lan telling you that, pricr to 1960, I was-worked in 1959, I handled the reerwi tent of tourists; Lut we did not open a files -- e, with the e::ception of those on employees of tourist firms. my. Because*this arent, a recruited fone ler... we will not be work ing with hin... he was temporarily in the Soviet Union... A, ((in Enclish)) Alricht. fae In the given case, the PURGI Case, after all the comprorising
104-10227-10005 7 “Major Gencral. material, ete,, uad been received, all of this uaterisl WAS gent to the First Chlel Dlrectorate + After the recaultmnent, atter the recrultmont -- after the forolcner t 8 denerture, the aaterLalg are cent to the First Chic! Ulrectorate.,. . All of the materials, ; . ’ To. whom did you address then. -— To SALIAROVSKIY. ‘To SAITIAROVSHIY; what was SAIAROVSKIY's position. at that tine: Chief of the Firat Directorate. . More precisely. sore ep ‘Chief of the First Chief Directorate. The First Chicf. Directorate. - ' Ranke: Major General You are certain that SAMHAROVSKIY was ‘Chief in. 1956. ! Yes, yes. y During, want month did all of this business with. BUPGI..o. one .. July. June. July. wes Son Di an ties wee CMe wthen:...om) Cee OL eee
104-10227-10005 BR. What was said by VCh. the airport July. Do you not remekber the date when the suetomrapas were taken I do not renenbder. ri: Then, you told me... that vhen BURGI was in Mosceyv. you did not meet him, No. When did BURGI go to Kiev... | a do not renenber, chat instructions were given to Kiev in regard to BURGI -- wien, by whom, and how: "Kiev was told by VCh that KOZLOV and ((B'3 surnanc)) will cone with Fegard to the American tourist... that we would talk it over ( (when we got ‘there)). % . Who talked by YCh: | I do not renenber. I already have said that ((it was)) in regard to the American tourist, BURGI (XG)... When and how were the instructions given to Kiev to neet BURGI at It was already Known in Kiev. net Did BURGI go to Kiev first, or did you: