~M- Did Jason ever tell you what kind of business he was in? © D- no, uh, I questioned Gino one time as to what Jason dia and - _ Gino evaded the question and another time I asked Gino how .- come if they were partners, how come it was Gino's Classic). Cars and uh you know Gino just said, not to ask questions and made a joke of it as he usually does ae M =. to your knowledge, did Gino carry a lot of money on him? D -” always s. . ‘always. 0 . | always “—~ Can you give me an estimate of how much no rt. never - a couple of hundred dollars 0 8 uv ge nn sometimes even more than that, he always you know had quite large sums on him ae M= uh ‘huh, who did Gino have working for him, you know immediate workers, right there all the time a ys De Patrick just quit M - . Patrick ' . 8 'D - © Sherman, just quit M what did he look like? Ds -uh, red hair, long, very long mustache, fairly heavy, he was MM ~ do you know why he quit? Patrick said that he had a lot of things on his mind and ‘Gino’: a had. alot of things or his mind ana it was better for both of... them if they split. Patrick was back in the area, Patrick had been in a hospital and he came back, a matter of fact he was-:0) in Sunday night, the night before the last when I saw Gino and then he also came in with Gino's brother uh and sister-in-law, 9. with Patrick when he came in last Monday Fa ee M- do you, have you been inside the building up there “‘D- oh yes NW 55923 DocTa:32266807° Page 26
M ~ does he have a lot of cars in there D~. well uh, he used to have three usually three in the showroom and he had about three in the back that he was working on and I don't know if he dig sell that Cadillac or if it was stolen - or uh, there had been a car in the paint room re M-~ now did you hear that a Cadillac was stolen in the paint room from California a D—--T had heard that only through reading the paper, as a Matter of... fact someone else Called'my attention to it, I didn't even. know -. and I couldn't understand why Gino didn't. mention it to me that - . Monday when he was in. Because from the way I understood. it, -\. the robbery happened ‘on Friday or. Saturday night and Gino was OE - in‘here MOnday and I couldn't understand why he didn't say un! anything to me BO, Pe aE AN oe ee - . you say he had some stuff. stolen from the showroom ~ that is what, I was told from other people zoo i - dia he have a large number of people hanging out up there no, he aiso had another boy working for him, a young kid, | --mamed Jay, Jerry, Jack his name was Jack. TI think he was only | _ -.about 16 or 17 vs 7 a ac t M - do you know where he lived at DD =. ‘no, he was just a young kid and then of course the uh ian who’ _., . Lives next door he re-does furni, he refinishes furniture, he © would come over occasionally and the man who has the ‘garage. just down from him would come down, but other than that --M- did Gino ever indicate to you that he commuted, commuted between. ~ . - Bethesda oO wes ys [ D - oh yes , M ~ that is a long drive D- yes it is, I often asked him why he didn't bother to get an, “apartment or house up here, but he didn't want to eas M-—- did he ever say why D- no. — M-. did he ever say why he got located here instead of down in. | 7 . Bethesda, his business Se ed D - he said that he felt this was a better location because of its °° - . where it was in relationship to New York and” Philadelphia-and ~. a “NW.55923° DecTdi32266807 Page 27 —
D - some other places, just general it was a better Place ooM =. why wouldn't New York and Philadelphia necessarily be a good ; location to be close to : oe D- I don't know . OM — you don't know D- I'm not positive, but _to the coast very soon M- out to the coast, why do you say that ~ which brother came to visit him - Joe, the baby in the family rn er | Joe, where was he from? — . ~ Connecticut. | ~ Connecticut. Did Gino ever buy you anything? ! oe ~ oh yeah, uh he sent me roses and little things did he ever buy you any jewelry H “= "no, not that I can think of - - I'm just curious, when we first started talking about him, you | “Mentioned the fact that you felt there qos oomething, something . _ Wasn't quite right about what. Gino was doing and you spent some ~ time in’ the shop and everything, did you have any idea what - that might be oS — D- no, I uh, t never, I often wondered about it and fr even. mentioned - co hE to my sister, My Sister had advised me to Stay away from Gino, — ‘s - well, why did you tell your sister if she advised you to stay away from Gino | fe -dD- “just that 1 thought he was doing something illegal that I thought. ~ he was mixed up in something, I doen't know What just cars 7 S.- you must have had some guess or something D ~- parden me ‘igw 55923 “Docld: 32266807 Page 28
S - you must have had some guess or something on D- no, it was just you know, I thought it was very odd that. ‘he would never give me his phone number or things like that and well impression of other things, everything seemed very odd to a me sg ~ for instance, what cypen ot things did you danckten -D =. uh | | . | | sg - don't miss understand, we're not ‘trying to divulge any y evidence against Gino in any way, - we' re trying to find out who did this. to him M p- right off, tr just cant think ; S- what about his partner, did he every say anything ‘about him > (= no, not anything much oa “8 = how often did his partner come down here, about, ‘that you “know . D _ oh, “not that often, they would call each other “quite. féequently | you: know, like once every day, they would call Sach. other .. oC a S =” ones a day D - " probably Ss - when you say not that often, how often do you mean | “Dp - “ur, lets see, I'd say once . every few months Jason would | be down: 0 os G@ause as far as I know Jason may have been down ‘twice this summer to my knowledge os es M how recently, what is “the most recent time that he was down oe D -). he was. definitely down here in JUne because he stopped in to. wee, ' see me, but he may, I'm not positive, I think he was taking ae plane out of Baltimore and I think he stopped in, I think Gino rn had taken him to the airport, but I'm not positive about that 7 S - out of Baltimore to where, back to New York D- I have no idea ge going back to: the very recent past, the last time that | you a saw Gino was say about two weeks ago Dp ~ uh huh NW'55923 ‘ Docid:32266807 Page. 29 ue. | a
. and he stopped in and was with who . . SY 2 ---you know things like that, that was basically the,. other than “general, his brother had bought a new car. and he had brought ~ it down for Gino to look at it to see what Gino thought ©9990 75% was and the conversation just jumped around about cars and that . ...Was about it , Lo ; ae what type of car was that, do you know his brother JOe and his sister-in-law and Patrick Sherman OK, did you get an opportunity to talk to him yeah what did the conversation involve oh, they were giving me a hard time before and like being very. funny towards Gino and you know they were teasing him about ‘= it was something like a Vega, something like that _hé bought it here in Maryland or ‘no, well his brother bought it in Connecticut and wanted.Gino: |. to see it and they were on there way to uh Virginia Beach or one of the beaches for a few days rr arene - Aid Gino every during the time you. said, that. you were trying ~~ _ to break.off the relationship, at least. slow it down some, uh” ~.at-any time during when you were having a good relationship, . did he ever give you any indication of how his business. was - - ~doing or anything like that ae “was that including you ‘with his money about every week and he would take me almost every week © once or twice a week, something like that - uh, Gino always tried to make everyone think that he was doing - -., very well, you known el ' - yeah, occasionally he would you know make a joke if I don't ~-get. this car sold that I’m not going to have you know, you fo ‘know some money, things like that, but usually he-would try 690 to make it sound as if he was doing very well and he would <0 9 try to you know show off his money, try to be very extravigant > - when you were dating Gino, last summer, about how often were |. you seeing him NW 55923 -Docld; 32266807 Page :30