1 REPRODUCTION PROGIBITED bh. Wow suuxt (Intelligent) is she? Dows she really speck no English? ia bow English bebiee than she shows or better than it showld be after being here only two yeara: Gr WOLSe’: i. Vas does che say shout live in the Soviet Union? ge “Did hex Inssband bave 2 gm vhile be vas in the Séviet Union? “If so, how does she lney sbeut 1¢7 hnem did ha _ 7 Bet 48: Did he-have syeeial peruisaion to carry a qm: Did he . eee eee ier tach atten t Yor your Information, an oe neboay carzies.@ gum in the USER without the 103 eventually Bye’ ke tho gave financial help to them before they lott \the Soviet Union? (BOLE: Yor a regiler worker in the Soviet Union, it is impesethie to save enepgh to buy e ticket. ond 1. Bho gave instructions to OSWALD to esk. for Sinencial asodetunce et the fuexicon Cnbassy upon hie rehien to the USA? the USSR? Ef se, te wat Gare? eee igen wan S21 “Ddd they begtise theirgsecend child, bor in the U. &.7- ne If COMALD vever hed a permment jch bere In tha _ USA, then who vas golog to Minessce his next trip to the USShT yia Cdbas by step, keeping in mind omk never forgetting thet CORALD as ° . well ag she hersel? vere under comstermst coservaticon end with . constant coutacts vith orgms of the iG8. Hitheut suck observation end contects with argens of the ECS, no foreigners con Live within: the Soviet Unica. - a5. muy investigation af this case ve should not lose wan ‘eurromiing this case, the ¥3I, through the Departnent of State, oe” evadlahie. smfo on COUALD's story in tha TSR sna the; reese: 3 of his; visit to tha Soviet Ezbassy Im Mexico City. A-frientiy A can be axnected to hemor such a request. We adekti leon great deal frea the Soviet realy. : a REPRODUCTION eae nop 393 22 pROMIeED _
13-00000. REPRODUCTION PRORIBNTED Jefe oo aces “Kenpineninse  Berastes - decpipeea nae eae ee ets iene mee nen, sti ee M2. ety Lan Leto, Nee 2, Bay Iay3 Rad 1 Tay MEMCRANLUY © ¥ CONVER: SATION eet eamnnealiia ae in ; | . Os Chief, SR : \ Nw cupsect: _ eta Work: in Support of the Warren Commission ° oN > van Se Ms a ° ele Bakow teow summary of the matters discussed in our \Qeéting-with Messrs. Angleton and Rocca on the evening of 15 danuary-1964. In turn, Mr. Angleton was reporting tous the Substance of his meeting with Mr. Allen Dulles, Mrvo. J. @ Rankin, Chie? Counsel, Hr. Wellins of the Justice ~ ' Department, ii. Helms and Mr. Rocca, which took: place on, the afternoon of 14 January 1964. a ‘ 2. Hr. Angleton said that lir. yoked by vress accusations that the Warcem Comission has been dilatory, asked CIA for su gestions o£ Guestions or requests to be included jn: wh: (Ostet “Government. This Iétter, from the Warren Commission andVto be transmitted through the Department of State, would seek additional evi~ dence which is. presumably availabis in Soviet files which could assist the Commission's deliberations. Ur. Dulles did not have a detailed idea of what he wanted to ask the Soviets _ for but did say that the questions should be “not too tech nical." Although Mr. Angleton thought that -the letter should ~ be written only after the CIA report and comments have been complated, in order to make the letter as effective as possi- ble, Mr. Dulles felt it should go now, be phrased in gonerali- ties and allow the Soviets more flexibility in their handling of the matter than would a.more pointed letter based on our concrete findings. Mr. Dulles asked CIA only for the questions and not for a draft Ietter. Mr. Murphy suggested that we ask ra only for certain records rather than put specific questions to the Soviets. Hr. Murphy suggested that these might include Soviet tospital records connected with Lee Oswald’s attempted suicide, © eity: visa and registration records for Moscow and _YWinsk, factory personnel records from Oswald's place of employ~ iment, ete. ~Also Oswald's diary noted that his case had passed . : ° through two commissions in the USSR; ve might ask for the of ‘‘pecords of these commissions as well. He. Angleton said that  . i in transmitting our suggestions to Mr. Dulles we can include f any introductory paragraphs or explanatory comments that” ve I! ASQ de fag ee i. a & rg Sond Document Number a lila seats ~~ Bad 9 Re? > i for FOIA Review Sn par we we AAS ié f ° | REPRODUCTION — uae 486 2 | , UN Cobar ET pace 194 ot
13-00000 REPRODUCTION - Qe felt necessary to explain to ix. Dulles the direction (of our thinking about these proposals. (Note: I instructed Mr. Wigren to prepare a draft of suggested queries, using the assistance of DERYABIN and to have this ready; 12 possible, by the closa of . busines» today. ) one ” 3. _Rankin stated that the Commission wants to account in detail, minute: by minute and hour by hour, for Oswald's tine “outside the United States. Mr. Bagley suggested that. the narrative chronology of Oswald's stay in the Soviet Union be converted: tora chronology tabulation which would permit us more sin ito insert added details and dates as we learned of then(is other documentation which we can expect to receive shortly. This was agreed. { ~ 4 (Note: 1 instructed Mr. Wigren to begin Lem f casting the narrative immediately into - this form.) 4 wr. Rankin said that the Commission has a waist<-high stack of decuments and reports received from the FBI and Secret Service which CIA has not yet received. These include Secret Service interviews with Marina Oswald, letters fron-Lee Oswald in the USSE and other material. He promised to send this material to Hr. Helms shortly. | (Note: We will pass appropriate parts of this material to DERYASIN for further analy- sis along the lines of his earlier work On docunents already in our possession. ) 5. . Wessrs. Anclaten. Murphy and Rocca considered DERYA~ BIN's. initial analysis of Harina Oswald's documents, and the questions to.which it gave rise, to ne hitre-snd impor tribution. CIA would be unable to Hake any seri— ous analysis\er even hynothesis until some of DERYABIN’s questions been answered. Mr. Rocca suggested that DER¥A-_ BIN'’s paper be recast into more of a questionnaire form. and\. tir. Bagley agreed, pointing out that DERYABIN’s comment and speculation could be put off to the side as explanatory con ment on each question, a3 appropriate. Mr. Angleton and Ur. Murphy thought that it would be desirable to send this paper to the Warren Commission in advance of other CIA reports with. a memorandum informing the Commission that we would need " ° answers to this interim questionnaire in order to reconstruct ; a detailed chronology of Oswald's time in the USSR and to | . i comment on his activity there. The Commission would be asked to procure the information from Marina through any Agency it © might choose. . PROBIGNTED
13-00000 REPRODUCTION PROMEITED ~ 3 = (Note: I instructed Mr. Wigren to prepare the DERYABIN paper in this format urgently.) 6G. Ur. Angleton reported that he had asked the Commis- oa representatives certain questions pertaining to our use f defectors, an. omalysing the Oswald papers: Pa. Was the: Commission formally requesting us to — anive defectors. analyse the material? Oe Kee wt Sr ae? “Wellins thought that the answer vk this guestion is yes. However, | . - Angleton asked for a formal request from the Comaission to this ~ . effect. The FBI. has stated that its ~~ reports are not to be passed to _ - AELADLE, which may cause some complt— ° cations. oa - oo b. Would the Commission be-prepared 1 ta: assume the burden of responsibility if such;a ‘defector. should disa- * gree with the Commission's opinides Saigeotation? a The persons present said wot the Commission would. : , | e. If a defectcr who had contributed to the analy— sis of the documents should be unwilling to appear person- ally and formally before the Commission, would the : Commission exercise its subpoena powers against him? Mr. Rankin thought that if there was @ risk involved for the defector, the ‘Commission would not do so. However, Rankin promised to get a formal answer from the Commission on this point. d. Will the classification we put on our corres~ pondence to the Commission be honored? The answer was that in principle our classification: would be honored. How= ever, \Mr.: ould tet tops te evade ert that CRAY should not hope to evade criti~ | RePeoueTign = eg 186 w ate COPY HO. ee
REPRODUCTION PROHIBIT fh “C Se- eS T ~~ him 6. Mr. Angleton reported that Mr. Richard Davis is repre- senting the interests of the Department of State in this inguiry. Nr. Thompson had ruled himselz out because he was ambassador to the’ Sextet Union at the tine of the events in question. 7. > One mattex“which had been prought to “Light by the Oswald case was the need for a mechanism in the United States Government to record’ and assimilate our knowledge of the Soviet handling of Ameri¢an defectors to the USSR. The Bureau is ' apparently in some danger of criticism for its fallure to keep ; an eye \omSswald after his return. Similarly CIA has not systematically collected nor compiled information on Soviet defector handling. Berlin Base had kept a list of.-American defectors at one time, but these individuals have not. ‘been debriefed on their return to the West. 8. The Commission representatives at the 14 January 1964 “meeting estimated that the Warren Commission would need from | three to six months to complete its task. 9. Mr. Bagley raised the question of the desirability of having DERYABIN participate personally, representing the FBI as an interpreter perhaps, in a debriefing of Marina. , | Hessra- Angleton and Murphy were convinced that CIA must avoid irect involvement with this investigation. Although it is ess efficient as a method, we will content, Ouneenves with patting written questions to Marina to be #e y whatever Agency the Commission may choose to use. a Tennent H. Bagley Chief, SR/Ci Lor2 2» 9424 g PRORATED
13-00000, _ - - REPRODUCTION PROMIBITEL XAAZ- AWS “Tale anit DULLES = oa ai Trish, | | emma /3f és . Dick: e f Had a briefing at ANen Dulles! house on sa seneterf, ue. —— 2 noon, (We were assembled te discusa his taping session with Aoree” DeryshinHalan Macinass,-Donsvan-ani-HansomBaliuin in New Yous komighhe None of the others were present.) _ AWD showed me a letter he had received fom Rankin © recently expressing the desire to reach a modus vivendi in - . order to allay the story of CIA's possible sponsorship of Oswald's, ; activity. The point of the communication to » AWD was to suggest. — that he serve at ave af aie zs eximwexfoxthe. Coromiasion, ‘The letter ; outlined alternative possibilities in this matter (aitldavit from the DGI, ete.).. In my. presence, -AWD wrote the answer: ae + Declining the invitation to serve as file —< oe b.. Stating hia.willingness to provide a state-" oe .¢ ae \S nent cr ‘teatieniony to the Commission with xespect to 928 yap ¥° MOYADY vids 10 | | | equinyy wewnsog nis Ne tedge of Oswald curing his tenure as DCI, He noted in the tail-off of the letter that ae far as he could . of Oswald , ‘remember-he had never tad any knowledge at any time | prior to the date of the assassination, 26294 zu g | & Soy : PROMIBITED