ftos-tor7o-too24] a oan : ‘SURTECT: Mr. nelza' Conversa? tor: “vith baits Fernie Rocka ead, ‘ . scae Maria Laaa of. the : PSE Be ae : [PERAGRY FRE SEAT: -Mre Belme. Mr. “wade Fariaster Rocha, re Jose. 5 - - _— Maria taca, Weetor Sanches {sila ‘TOME AND FLACES © 9w@0 hours, 13 Nowaster i962. We. | sffive le Bre Reins | siviges Mr. Rocha that be wali lise to divide the pee) commersativcs into two partes The: first pert wish he wanted ¢. diecuga de the morcing was the gat tect of ‘the DRE. reperte on the eteurege of | 0 gsiastive {2 saveo and wubterransan sites de: Outs In the afterinon Mre an Heins statael he would Ltke to digress ‘the PRET LA &y reLationshise id ee Mre Seins first Baked ure Recta ant the smaries of his. dnformiiag. Rocha replied that their. sores iacludad GFE peneteetions ef the Cidan Goverment, the Cubac Geseral ‘start, fareers acd workera. Rovha ala> dfeclcasd «4, report which be hal: receive? forum Caba on Ll Boveaber by telephone from ao eyew!tonss ena Sagsa. The source reported that the gfastlaa belies diemntiet s at. Zens de Sagsa (Sittecitos) Sagua La Grands are being moved to the airpert et Malesa. Mr. Eelas asked . Recta thw he het arrived at che figure 87 tor’ the qusber of TAM and Bebiuwe-rexge MRO eiaaties vit overe 4m Cuba. Roche replied ames this Aieire was a roush evtiwate ty the. DRE of the wisalles reported by their wources wei renee! in utae Rocha claimed ‘ths information vase ga hy pple who counted the siseties aa they passed given pointe en the a one hs ‘Ltghysys fe the direction of the mfastle aiter. Thea confticme4 waede informtion froa IRE sourced {2 the Cuban ports. Mr. Helsa etatel the BO. NOT REPRODUCE “IP | RETURN TO CIA
ake :* a . oo Be obvious difficulty would appear to be that the aisailes could be counted ‘twice, and as eoveral people were ren porting on the missiles, ¢ach could have reported a waiesile of a different size, ‘Rocha agreed this was ‘B probles but stated they had agked their sources to eati= gate the length of the missiles they reported, and that these estimates vary between 36 ard 40 feet. Rocha be- lieves their sources are reporting valid information as they are the sams sources who reported what he considers _ accurate information on nivailes 1-2 months agoi Rooks | then quoted from the 12 October 1962 isgue of "Trae Cuban Report”, 3 newsletter published by the DAR. . “During the sonths of June, July and Auguat, Bore then eighty seven Soviet: ships decked at Cuban ports carrying men and war waterisl, that included ground-to~- of over air rockets, and guided missiles with a rao 1,000 siles.” Rocha added that as the information wae correct in the 2 past, he believed the information was correct at the present time. Rocha oxplained that the reporte wore honest, were not in~ ‘flated, -and are not being used for propaganda purposed. 3. Inarder to take advantage of Bochs ‘'e presence iu Fasbington, wr. Helas suggested that Rocha take the rest § cf
a ; { of the morning with two specialista and pinpoint on & ap the underground ulssile sites which they have been reporting. “Rocha answered he would be glad to do this, ‘but that he was | sot the best man for the job as it was Angel Logano, who is presently in Minmt, who had previously worked on theese res ports and pinpoiated the locations with his Agency contacts in Miami, 7 4, Mr. He lus then made arrangements for Colonel Albert Dayiea acd Hr, Willixa Tidwell to mast and discusa the subject safur with Mr. Rocha and ur. Laga. During this meeting is He. Helus' conference room, Rocha plotted the locationa on a map of Cuba and gave Colonel Davies copies of tke information which he had caried with his, Colonel Davies stated he would check the information and would forward any further questions about this information to Mimi to be discussed with them there. © Xr. Rocha again apologized for not being able to provide nore details pat. again atated that Xr. Losano in Miani was sach more familiar with the details of these report.