isoa01e240073) <=ne” 1% : Glee JTK]HSCA Bex Ta’ Bi ( o«  - Classificatian:_ axtracted Appendix 3: HSCA Procedural Write-up Mexico Trip 2 , House Select Committee staffers Edwin duan Lopez and Harold Leap traveled to Mexico City on August 7, 1978. The staff members were met by David T. Patton, a State Department official, at the Mexican airport at 10:15 p.m. Mr. Patton then checked the staffers into Room 1754 at the Maria Isabel Hotel. — Mr. Patton informed the staff members: that Larry Sternfield CIA Chief of Station in Mexico City, wished to see us at 8:30 a.m. the following morning. | On Tuesday, August 8, 1978, Committee staffers met with Larry Sternfield. He informed the staffers that the two individuals the Committee wished to inter- ‘view, Daniel Flores, 1207/ aka Luis Aparicio, and Ramon Alvarez Duran, 1208/were now available. At 9:30 a.m., August 8, 1978, Committee staff mem- bers interviewed Danny Flores. 1209/ The interview ended at approximately 10:15 a.m. Committee staff members returned to Mr. Sternfield office. Mr.Sternfield stated that it appeared that the Government of Mexico had only been able to locate two Glassified by derivation: (0193-60 23
fins form is to be used fer mutsrial ¢ : : i fram ClA—<controlied documents.) He asked the staff members whom they wished: to speak to. The Committee staff members explained that they would like to interview | Jf . Hf J, [ anal j. Mr.. Steinfield stated that ‘ it appeared that the House Select Committee on Assassina- ‘tions had already asked the Mexicans to locate them. Mr. Steinfield stated that the HSCA's interview with Ramon Alvarez Duran) was considered “highly sensi- tive." He explained that three rooms. at a nemy hotel , oO would be used. In one room, (Ramon Alvarez burant)would ‘sit, Committee staff members would sit in a second room © Y and two CIA personnel officers would insure that the equipment worked properly in a third room. Mr. Stein- field then phoned Mr. Niles ‘Gooding, who had been sent to the Mexico City Station from Headquarters to arrange ‘the procedures for the interviews. Mr. Gooding explained that in 1977. Stansfield Turner had created a new posi- tion at Headquarters to insure that important sensitive meetings were within the guidelines previously arranged. Mr. Gooding stated that the Central Intelligence Agency had been under greater Congressional scrutiny than the Nabe Sa past two years. Therefore, Director Turner, in order to _ demonstrate the Agency's good faith, had engaged a retired ‘ “ehhh, Seas, t Classified by derivation: - ee ee? fis os -
“Nembatrt anew 2d. 0 864 Heb teats aig aoe, Army officer to act as liaison at sensitive interviews by Congressional representatives. Mr. Gooding then ex- plained that we would be escorted’ by two CIA personnel ra) _to our interview srith(ramon Alvarez Durant.) At 10:55 a.m., August 8, 1978, Committee staff men- bers interviewed(Ramon Alvarez potand, (See (Ramon Al~ olf varez purant) interview write-up.) At 12:30 p.m., Committee staff members telephoned Captain Fernandez Ventura Gutierrez. His secretary explained that Mr. Ventura was not in. the office, but that she would have him call us when he returned. At 6:30 p.m., since Mr. Ventura had not yet returned the staffer'’s call, they again called his office. His se~- cretary apologized for Mr. Ventura and explained that he had not yet returned to the office and she assured us that. he would telephone upon his return. At 9:15 p.m., Dr. Jesus Yanez, the Assistant to the official mayor, telephoned the staff members explaining that Mr. ventura was very busy on an important assignment and asked us to-visit the Procuraduria General at 11:00 a.m. the | following morning. | | At 10:15 a.m, August 9, 1978, Committee staff members met with State Department Official Richard Howard >
at f : (Thin form: is from Cla-—ecouire to alert him that the Committee would request the Mexi- can officials to make Silvia Duran available in Washing- ton for an HSCA hearing. Mr. Howard explained that once we had permission from the: Mexican government the State Department would insure that she was in Washington when necessary. _ At 11:00 a.m., August 9, 1978, Committee staff members met with Dr. Jesus Yanez and Ciprianio Martinez Novoa. Mr. Yanez told Committee staff members that Ciprianio Martinez Novoa, the Mexican agent in charge,. would try to aid us in all our interviews.. Mr. Martinez then briefed the Committee staff members on their up-to- date progress: Oscar Contreras Lartigue had been located and pre- interviewed by Mr. Martinez in Tampico, Mexico. We would fly to Tampico on Friday, August 11, 1978 at 7:35 asm. to interview him. Noe W. Palomares had been located and could be ‘interviewed during the afternoon of Thursday, August 10, 1978 at his office, Cerrada de la Presa 4. His phone number, 595-0891, was made available to the Committee. - June Cobb Sharp received a tourist permit, number
72781, on June 27, 1947. She entered Mexico through Nuevo Lardo, Texas. She requested but was.denied permission by the Mexican government to represent the magazine, Modern Mexico. On June 21, 1948, she re- ceived a courtesy permit, number 25556. She disappeared in 1954 and never returned to Mexico. The Committee staffers did not tell the Mexicans that the House Select Committee on Assassinations had evidence from review of June Cobb's 201 file that.she was in Mexico in the Sixties. | Eunice Odio Infante, a Costa Rican, received a three-month tourist permit from the Mexican government on February 9, 1964. She remained in Mexico, illegally ‘residing at Nacas~45-a, until 1972. She applied to write for the Excelsior magazine on many different oc~ casions, but was rejected every time. In 1972, Ms. Odio married a Communist painter, Rudol£o Sanabria Gon- zalez and moved to Rio Neba-16 Apartment 40. . On May 24, 1972, Ms. Odio was found dead in her bathtub. The offi- cial presiding at her autopsy concluded that Ms. Odio had poisoned herself. ’ Fmilio Carballido Fontanes was iin.Caracas, Venezuela, on vacation and scheduled to return to Mexico in early
September. His address is Constituyentes 207. His phone number is 515-8345. a ou a. a (consueto Esperon's personnel record in Mexico ; : oy could not be located. When the Mexican officials in- quired about her at the (Cuban Embassy in Mexico City) to the Committee's trip. _no one at the office remembered that she had worked there. _ Committee staff off ; : : members were told that(Esperon was probably dead. No oe basis was given for the Mexican government! s conclusion. Al Wichtrich worked at Royal Crown Cola until | 1968 when its offices in Mexico closed. 06 (carlos Jurado J. Delmar)was born in Cuba on : (iovember 3, 1927) He entered Mexico July 1, 1965 and x . Qo taught (Graphics and Art at U.N.A.MIJ until January 1, 1968 when he disappeared. The Mexican officials assume. rae that he returned to Cuba. oo re ‘wanes General Jesus Jose Clark Flores died in the early — 1970's. Ernesto Lehfeld Miller, Academic Coordinator. at Neate ee Ba tem the School of interior Design, had not yet been located. 10% (Luis | Alberue Suoto lives at Michelet &7, Apartment Nerd csmters oan #301, Colonia Aneura) Mexico City. His phone number is_ (545-9949) The landlady at his apartment explained to | - a 2 ~ Cistssirica tiny cel
2 Marta ty cst ba her to insure that she was willing to travel'to Washing- Fai ci > ae are bs tund 3° yy POST a PTie faeey te fy bee utp! ge ssh ie Cents Tory 'S Tp set et Tar iv ifaye. from ClA--contratiod Cocuna the Mexican officials that Mr. Alberue) had left town ie . oe hurriedly on Monday, August 7, 1978... Mr. Martinez,. wishing to know when he returned, had placed a piece of scotch tape on the bottom right edge of his door. Mr. y v Martinez explained that he checked it every four hours a} and would notify us if (Alberud returned before we left. ard Manuel Calvillo did not live at Cuahtemoc 877-5 as the Committee had stated. The landlady for the past twenty-five years at the apartments told Mr. Martinez that Manuel Calvillo had never resided there. Committee staff members explained that Calvillo went by a pen name which would be forwarded to the Mexican officials the following morning. When Committee staff members inquired whether Ms. Silvia Tirado Bazan could testify at an HSCA hearing, the Mexican officials stated that they would have an answer for the staffers by Friday morning. The Mexican officials explained that they would have to speak to ton. _On Thursday, August 10, 1978, at 11:00 a.m. the Committee staff members met with Dr. Jesus Yanez, Agent Ciprianio Martinez Novoa, Captain Florentino Ventura te : Classified by derivation: Joo. }
Gutierrez and Attorney General Licensiado, Manuel Calvillo's "pen name” was given to the Mexicans who stated that they would check it with the landlady at his alleged apartment building. | Committee staffers returned to their hotel room : with Agent Ciprianio Martinez Novoa after the meeting. Agent Martinez attempted without success to telephone Oscar Contreras Lartigue to inform him of our visit. . At 3:30 p.m, Agent Martinez finally reached Mr. Contreras’ child who informed him that Mr. Contreras was not in Tampico. He had traveled to Mexico City for a Partido Republicano Institucional convention. When Agent Mar- tinez asked the child if he knew where his father was staying in Mexico City, he responded that he did not. Agent Martinez explained to the child that he would call at a later time to speak to his mother. Agent Martinez telephoned Noe W. Palomares at 4:00 p-m. and arranged an interview for 6:30 p.m. that even- ing. Mr. Martinez asked Committee staff members to meet him at his office at the Procuraduria General at 6:00 p.m. | At 6:00 p.m., August 10, 1978, Committee staff members met Agent Ciprianio Martinez at the Procuraduria c o2e | a? jer Se ae ot Dee es ° Jassisicciion: _
are rd aistsS foe 7 Tom General at 6:00 p.m. At 6:00 p.m., August 10, 1978, Committee staff members met Agent Ciprianio Martinez: at the Procuraduria General. Martinez then drove the HSCA representatives to Mr. Palmoares' office. At 6:30 p.m., Committee staff members interviewed Noe W. Palomares. (See Noe W. Palomares interview write-up: ) Following the interview Agent Martinez returned to. the Maria Isabel Hotel with Committee staff members. ~ He attempted to reach Mrs. Contreras telephonically at Tampico twice without success. At 9:45 p.m., he finally contacted her. Mrs. Contreras told Agent Martinez that Mr. Oscar Contreras had told her that he would try to get a room at either the Hotel Regis or Hotel San Francisco. Mrs. Contreras explained that since there were a few conventions scheduled in Mexico City that weekend she could not assure that he would be at either. Mrs. Contreras told Agent Martinez that she - would notify him iff her husband should call. | Mr. Martinez called both hotels and niquired whether Oscar Contreras Lartigue was registered. “He was not registered at either; they were completely booked up.
for material extracted iThis form-is to be used from ClA—controlied documents.} Mr. Martinez attempted to reach by telephone Silvia Tiardo Bazan at her home to ask her whether she would be wil- ling to travel Zo Washington to testify at.a HSCA hearing and to ask if she knew where Mr. Ernesto Lehfeld Miller could be located. She was not at home, however. Agent Martinez explained that he would attempt to locate Oscar Contreras Lartige Lartige at the hotel where the Partido Republicano Institucional was holding its con- vention early the following morning; after which he would meet the staff members at 9:30 a.m. at their hotel room. At 9:45 a.m., August ll, 1978, Agent Martinez met Committee staffers at their hotel room and explained that he was unable to locate Mr. Contreras Lartigue at the convention. Mr. Martinez then left to check the whereabouts of(tr. atperhe Suotd) and Silvia Tirado Bazan. At 12:30 p.m., August ll, 1978, Agent Martinez re- turned to the Committee staff members’ hotel room. He tele- phoned Mrs. Contreras in Tampico who’ stated that her husband had not telephoned her since she had last spoken to Agent Martinez. At 1:50 p.m., another agent; Honorio Escondon, telephoned Agent Martinez.at the Committee staffers’ hotel - : room to inform him that Luis. ‘Alberue Suots) must be ‘back in town because the scotch tape placed at ‘the base of his Classification: | | | Classified by derivation: é % * '
afin B e Clossivication: {This form is to be used for material extracted from ClA—controlled documents.) - entranceway door was no longer in place, At 1:55 p.m., Agent Martinez telephoned (Luis Albexve Sutoto) During the phone conversation, (Albexue denied that he had worked at 04.08 the Cuban Embassy in the Sixties) stated that he knew nothing about the assassination and declined the Committee staff members ' request to interview him. At 2:00 p.m., August 11, 1978, Agent Martinez tele- phoned Silvia Duran. Agent Martinez then gave the tele- phone to Committee staffer Lopez. Mr. Lopez ask Ms. Tirado whether she would be willing to testify sometime in Septem— ber at a Committee hearing in Washington; she answered affirmatively. She stated that September 13th, 14th and “15th would not be “good days" because the Mexican Revolution celebration would be taking place and she was a planner and participant. When Mr. Lopez asked Ms.- Tirado if she knew Mr. Ernesto Lehfeld Miller's phone number, she stated that she did not., but she stated that if we telephoned her ex- husband Horatio at either 516-0398 or 515-8621, he would be able ‘to help us. - At 2: 15 P.M, committee staffer Lopez telephoned Horatio: “Duran, ‘who gave him, Ernesto Lehfeld Miller' s of- fice phone number, 548-4839. Ate 2:20 p.- Me Lopez ‘telephoned Mr. Miller and arranged a meeting “for- 9:00 p.m. that evening. Classification: | Classified by derivation:
a EF Las ESF A Baer” (This form is to ba used for material extracted from ClA—controlled documents.) At 2:30 p.m., Agent Martinez telephoned Capitan “Ventura to report on his progress, pertaining to his work with the HSCA. When Martinez told Ventura that he had” (recatea fiinenve, [venture asked him if he was alone -inen Agent Martinez lied 4nd” stated that he was along ventura told him that he should under no circumstances allow us to intervied [alberue|| When Agent-Martinez completed his ‘phone call, he said, "I don't understand why nobody wants you to talk to him." At 9: p.m, August 11, 1978, Committee staffers interviewed Ernesto Lehfeld Miller. . (See Ernesto Lehfeld Miller interview write-up.) At 11:15 a.m., August 12, 1978, Committee staffer ou Lopez callea[Luis Alberue Suoto|at his home. When Mr. Lopez identified himself, [Mr. Alberue| immediately stated that he knew nothing. ]He further stated that he never worked for the Cuban Embassy. When Lopez explained to him that. a4, 0G employees at the Cuban Embassy had stated that he had. been employed there, Mr. Suoto“hung up. Mr. Alberue' S]voice | quivered throughout ‘the short talk. | | AL 11:45 a. my Silvia ‘Tirado called Lopez and stated that she had thought all night about travelling to | Washington. She said she had seen a report in the newspapers in which Azcue had stated that the man who visited the Cuban Consulate igissif ication: a A i Classified by derivation: TERE TSE oan
Me ai IE et a hie LP WERE Pr < dl BES II (Ulereci A i S554 (This form is to be used for material extracted from ClA—controlled documents.) in 1963 was not Lee Harvey Oswald. She stated that Azcue had only seen Oswald once while she had seen Oswald “at least three times." When Lopez said, "At least three times?" Ms. Tirado said. ‘"Three times, you know?" She further stated that if she testified in Washington and the Committee concluded that she was lying she would be . _exucified when she returned to Mexico. Mr. Lopez reassured her and explained that when he returned to Washington he would send her a long letter explaining procedures. At 12:05 p.m., Agent Martinez met the Committee staff members at the airport. He stated that Contreras and Calvillo had not been located. The Committee staffers gave Martinez a list of questions to ask Oscar Contreras Lartigue. Agent Martinez stated that he would mail the results of the interview:to Lopez at the Committee offices ain Washington. The Committee never received any interview reports from the Mexican government. The Committee staff members deft Mexico City at 1:55 p. m. and arrived at Washington’ s Dulles Airport at 10:35 p.m. Classified by derivation: - cimenen qeryens ¢ SOREN ail