107 1 Mr. Espinose. He used to be either the manager or the 2 owner of the 21 Club in Havana, and ne was always mixing with 3 big people somehow. 4 Mr. Hornbeck. Did he have any relationship with any, of | 5 the American gambling -interests, if you know? 6 Mr. Espinosa. I am sure he did. 7 Mr. Hornbeck. Anyone you ever saw fim with? 8 Mr. Espinosa. No, but he was always hanging around with 9 these people. - 10 Mr. Hornbeck. Eugenio Leal Pozo? 11 Mr. Espinosa. . No. 12 Mr. Hornbeck. Joe Rogers or Joe Stassi? 13 Mr. Espinosa. No. O “44 . Mr. Hornbeck. ©Sam Mannarino? : 1S Mr. Espinosa. No. 16 Mr. Hornbeck. Eenito Fernandez? _ 17 Mr. Espinosa. No. 18 Mr. Hornbeck. Did you ever go to the Commodore at 19 Doville? 20 . Mr. Espinosa. taybe-once or twice in wy life. 21 Mr. Hornbeck. At some point you or someone had mentioned ~22 that Fidel had a mistress at the Nacional. | : 23 Mr. Espinosa. Yes. Ove, Mr. Hornbeck. What can you tell us about her, who’ she. 25 was, and when he used to visit her and when you saw, them . _ ALDERSON | REPORTING ‘COMPANY, INC, -53080_ Docld:32248213 __ Page 120300 7th STREET, S.W. REPORTERS BUILOING, WASHINGTON, , C. pods (202) pa. 2346 |
1 there. 2 wr. Espinosa. I can't tell you who she was, because I 3 saw her a couple of times. She was a colored girl, very light 4 in color, and she was there, and on two oaccsions.,. “it might 5 have been April or May of 1959, I saw Ficel Castro in the cer 6 outside waiting for her, ne and a chauffeur. I don't. Know. who 7 she was and I can't remember her name or anything. | 8 Mrs Hornbeck. Did you ever meet or hear of a woman by 9 the name of Marita Lorenz? "40 Mr. Espinosa. ho. | “oMr. Hornbeck. Did you know or ever meet Larry DeJoseph? - 12 Mr. Espinosa. NO. a 13 oo Mr. Hornbeck. That name is not familiar to you?... 2) 14 Mr. Espincesa. lo. , 15 ir. Hornbeck. when you had discussed earlier in your” 16. testimony today seeing a file, were you referring to @ CIA 17 file or an FBI file, do you know? 18 Mr. Espinosa. I don't know if it was Cla or FBI. 1 19 assume iwiaybe it was 4 Customs file. But I looked through it 20 for about half an nour, and it was very well documented and 21 there were many things that i don't remember that are there. 22 Mr. Blackmer. were there code names in tas ‘crypto. names? 23 . Mr. Espinosa. No. It was all straight names, full» 24 names, and the whole thing, and the nicknames and friends and 25 so on. ALDERSON. REPORTING ‘COMPANY, INC, | 153080" “Docld: 32248213 “Page 12.1300 Fh. STREET, S.W. [REPORTERS BUILOING, WASHINGTON, 0. C. ces (202) 584 2345
1909 ’ O 1 “ry, Hornbeck. I don't want to dwell on Fidel Castro's 2 personal life, but during the perioc thet you were in Havaene 3 and then for 4 few years after that when you may nave haa 4 contacts there, did he have a number of mistreses or was he 5 basically with one woman? 6 Mr. Espinosa. Ho, he always ahd a number of them .arounc. 7 Mr. Hornbeck. Were they fairly well known? 8 Mr. Espinosa. I guess some of them were. There was this 9 Lily Gowdy, and I don't know if ne was screwing her or not, 10 put he was. cetainly taking her out. I think this is whet 1 11 knew, but I was a kid at the time, and I am sure the. pedple “12 older than me knew more. | CO een 13 Mr. Hornbeck. Did you know a person who worked at the 14 Tropicana casino by the name of Lewis Mewillie? 18 Mr. Espinosa. io. 16 Mr. Hornbeck. bid you know an Aldo Vene Serfin? 7 Mr. Espinosa. Ho. . . 18 | . wire Bhackmen ext neopterin peritcreSctals oS ; | a oN 19 Did you know Sergio Acacia Smitn? | - ~ ~ 7 200 Mr. Espinosa. No. . ; 7 21 Mr. OLachmer- Did you have any relationship with any of “2 the anti-Castro Cuban forces in New Orleans? - Loa, 23 Mr. Espinosa. HO. BS ne OO. om Mr. Bla tEugp Or any of the particular groups. that were , a 25 in New Orleans? an ALDERSON: REPORTING COMPANY, INC, / 53080: Docid: 32248213. Page 12239 7th STREET, SW: _ REPORTERS. BUILDING, WASHINGTON, ‘D.C, 20024 (202) 554-2345 ’
10 “1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ey 24 25 force in -a security 93080 “Decta: 32248213 _ Page 1233997th STREET, ‘S.W. REPORTERS: BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 ur. Espinosa. I dian't «now there was an anti-Castro liew Grleans. wr, Blaekmer. You did train in ttew Orleans at one time? Mr. Espinosa. Yes, I trained in tlew Orlears. I didn really train over there. We were taken from Panama ang. ine order to send us to Cuba first we were taken to lew Chileans, to an old Marine base or what had been closed for 20 oF 30 years, and from tnere we were taken to Biloxi, Mississippi, to nouse. Mr, Blackwer. This is 19€0 or 1961? Mr. Espinosa. This is 1961. This is just two or three | months before the invasion. Mr. Blackmer. ¥@ You. wer garrisoned on the base) emer boarded on the base in Biloxi? mr. Espinosa. Wot in Biloxi; in New Orleans. “ur. Blacker. How about wnen you went to Biloxi? ir. Espinosa. They split the guys. There were about 80 guys, and they gplit them different ways, and I was there with. about eignt or nine suys in a security nouse with a »COUD Le of agents. Mr. Blackmer. On the base? Mr. Espinosa. Wo, no. Mr. Blackmer. In the town? “ir. Espinosa. It was a security house. phat is 2 house that is used for clandestine oeprations, and so a security. ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. ANC, r an sas
) a, 1 house was 4& | Oven nouse” in Biloxi, 0) nd we lived there, seven 2 or eight guys and one or two CIA guys for about two weeks. Oo . 3 Mr. Blackmer. Had you had any contact with Eernare 4 Barker in Havana? 5 mr. Espinosa. Wo. iupevro 6 “ir, Hornbeck. deweio Martinez? 7 our. Espinosa. Ho. an 8 Mr. Hornbeck. srexteeskrTO Gonzales? Ng 9 Mr. Espinosa. ho. 10 Mr, Hornbeck. Cueto? 11 Mr. Espinosa. No. 12 Mr. Blackmer. We appreciate your coming. Could-you O Wo pssibly give us a telephone number where we can contact you, | 14 should the need arise, in London? - “45 Mr. Espinosa. Surely. I can give you ny howe numer. -16 Mr. Blackmer. If; in the future, towera the end of the 17, summer, we should like to have you at a hearing, would you 18 have any predisposition against appearing before this” 19 committee at a hearing and going over the tain gs that-we-nave 20. just discussed? | 2) Mr. Espinosa. Of course not. Count on me. 22 Mr. Blackmer. If you could leave us with the number: 23 then we will be in contact with you. ue 24 Th ank you very imuchn for your cooperati ome Ee 25 (Whereupon, at 6:20 p.m., tne deposition was ‘céneluded. 3 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC, . 53080. Docid: 32248213 Page. 124 7th STREET, S.W. “REPORTERS ‘BUILDING, WASHINGTON, D.C: 2028 “{202) 584:3345