157-10005-10249 Date:10/05/93 Page: 1 JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM e | IDENTIFICATION FORM AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : SSCIA RECORD NUMBER : 157-10005-10249 RECORDS SERIES : AGENCY FILE NUMBER : R463 ORIGINATOR : SSCIA FROM : TO: TITLE : TRANSCRIPT/RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS/EXHIBITS DATE : 07/10/75 PAGES : 161 SUBJECTS : RUSK, DEAN TESTIMONY BEFORE COMMITTEE a EXHIBITS 1-11 DOCUMENT TYPE : TRANSCRIPT CLASSIFICATION : T RESTRICTIONS : REFERRED CURRENT STATUS : P DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 10/05/93 OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS : BOX 258-2 [R] - ITEM IS RESTRICTED HY 50955 DBoctd: 32202439 Page 1
TOP SECRET 18 1 Mr. Smothers. Mr. Secretary, we see there a series of 2 lettered subparagraphs setting out alternatives that the CIA Pnone (Area 202) 544-6000 o | has offered up as potential areas to be pursued, and then 4 some handwritten notes opposite each paragraph apparently in- 5 dicating approval or disapproval of the proposed faction. 6 The Chairman. Is this memorandum a-CIA memorandum? 7 Mr. Smothers. It is for the Chief of the Western Hemi- 8 sphere Division. 9 . Senator Tower. But who signed off on it? That sig- | 10 |} nature is obscured. | ll Mr. Smothers. The author of this working paper is ~ 12 i} unknown. It appears to be -~ we have an acting chief -- () AL 13 | :: .4:Mr. Dennin. The chief at that time was| R and 14 || though it is not established, people have said that they WARD & PAUL 15 | believed that it was Mr. Esterline who was the acting chief 16 || at that date. 1? 'Mr. Smothers. Looking at that memorandum and coming 18 || down to subparagraph C under paragraph 1 of the memorandum, we 19 | see the statement: 20 "To what extent will the U.S.. Government participate 21 | in the overthrow of Trujillo". 22 | And then in subparagraph C: 23 "Would -:it'. provide a small number of sniper rifles 24 | or other devices for the removal of key Trujillo people from 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 25 || the scene?" HY 50955 DBocld: 33702439 Page ? TOP SECRET
88 TOP SECRET 27 1 Mr. Schwarz. Now if I might put this document in 2 chronological context for the Committee, the persons in Santo Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 3 Domingo are at this point seeking permission to pass machine 4 guns to the dissidents who they know are seeking those machine 5 guns in order to assassinate Trujillo, and there is a block 6 put on this shipment -- rather, to the passage of them; they ? had already been shipped to the Dominican Republic -- and a 8 draft cable was prepared authorizing the passage and then it 9 was said, no, we've got to go check with State to determine 10 whether the machine guns should be passed. ll And this memorandum reflects the checking with State, he 12 apparently came to see Mr. Berle.. 13 Further, as a matter of information, thegyegg || who (7 (2 14 | Was referred to in here, did know that other assassination WARD & PAUL 15 | weapons had baen passed to the dissidents. 16 Now given that background, I will read the memorandum 17 | into the record and I will have one question for the witness. i) 4 18 ‘= Jor CIA came in. A local group in the 19 Dominican government wishes to overthrow Trujillo; wishes arms 20 for that purpose. 21 "On cross~examination it developed that the real plan was 22 || to assassinate Trujillo and they wanted guns for that purpose. 23 {_|wantea to know what the policy should be. 24 "I told him I could not care less for Trujillo and that 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, O.C. 20003 25 || this was the génaral sentiment. But we did not wish to havea HW 50955 DBocld: 34¥02439 Page 3 TOP SECRET
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 HW 50955 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.£., Washington, 0.C. 20003 10 ll le 13 14 15 16 1? 1L8 19 20 el 22 23 24 £9 TOP SECRET 89 28 anything to do with any assassination plots, anywhere, anytime. [___}saia he felt the same way." Now, Mr. Secretary, in the way which your understanding wa of the expected degree of candor between CIA and the State | | had known that other weapons had been passed to the same Department, would it be your expectation that LE Qe dissidents and they had stated that they intended to use those Mee | should have passed that information on to Mr. Berle? other weapons to assassinate Mr. Trujillo, that Mr. Rusk. Under those circumstances, I would think the answer is yes. I mean, one thing I'm sure of, Mr. Schwarz, and that is Mr. Berle did not write this Memorandum on May 3rd, 1961 in preparation for a Senate investigation in 1975. Mr. Schwarz. You believe it to reflect accurately what transpired? Mr. Rusk. I have no douht. It was sent to Mr. Coerr, Mr.’ Owen, Mr. Devine, in the Department of State, and I've known Mr. Berle for quite a long time and I would have predicted this would have been his reaction. Senator Mathias. Mr. Chairman, just at this point -- The Chairman. Senator Mathias. Senator Mathias. It would be interesting to get the Secretary|'s reflection that if that is the case, as Mr. Berle's memorandum indicates and as the Secretary said, how do you in | 4 pocta:3 207439 Page 4 TOP SECRET
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