209. CONFIDE TIAL , relationship, and if that was the case, if the file had > been opened in that instance, it would either be manifest ‘in aa the file or there would be an indication in it directing | whoever had the file to go to whatever place had the Mr. Goldsmith. I think that you are anticipating my questions, and we will get to the Oswald 201 file in BUS EDTNG ‘ particular momentarily. = ° | xvesponsibility for the fiduciary relationship. ; i ; = ‘| \ a 3 | Now, as I stated, this is only one category in the. | ~ _ | s | list of criteria for the opening of files, and as far as I S a know, the 201 file that was opened on Oswald was opened by ™ A H c ? | Mrs. Edgerter pursuant not to that, but to the potential | < i = ie interest that she, as an analyst, felt lodged in the fact = ' | that he had been a defector and it figured on that list. ' ra : i ; i i f 4 Let's get back to the question that I asked a moment REPORTERS a ago. | “ 7 : . | : Will the 201 file always indicate the fact of a a i ue a i a ‘ : = “i relationship with the CIA, if there was such a relationship?: a | = 5 i = | Mr. Rocca. As far as I know, it would... > H Mr. Goldsmith. So, if someone were an agent, source, , HEF an | ) eS Mr. Rocca. The whole purpose of the file, and the 23 | | opening of that file, would be to prevent others from recruiting | the same agent, from making use of the same agent, for other agencies who perhaps had been in contact to do that, 9 oO i) hy ) IDENTIAL ALDEIRSOs REPORTING COMPANY, [AC. Docld:32263409 Page 212
210 CONFIDENTIAL and therefore it would have to appear in some way or other Ww on the face of the file. Les) Mr. Goldsmith. Then the next step in the analysis is the following one. tn From the absence of any indication in the file, in the 201 file, that someone had a relationship with the “dd . ov Agency, either as an asset, agent, source, contract employee, a whatever -- from the absence of such an indication, can one C. 202% €202) $54-23945 wo safely infer that, in fact, there was no such relationship? = 16 S Mr. Rocca. I would say so, yes. = ; Mr. Goldsmith. Are documents ever removed from ; =” | 201 files? © = Mr. Rocca. They should not be removed from the 3 i files. That was, of course, part of the standard order of = i = 3% S ; procedure. = i The fact is, however, the file itself passed through | ae many hands in the course of dealing with it, and it would be . ae i Zz tS & | technically possible to do so. = H I cannot deny this. I mean, this is something that | | exists on the face, as I see it. | a1! SS Mr. Goldsmith. So, in theory, no documents should be: jane whee s4 F €. / v ’ removed from a 201 file, but it is possible to remove documents from a 201 file? Mr. Rocca. Well, it could have been -- it could have. : been done. CONFIDENTIAL Docld: 32263409 Page 913 ALDERSOM REPORTING COMPANY, INC.
CONFIDENTIAL 211 Mr. Goldsmith. When someone removes a document from | ta a 201 file, is it required to indicate on the file that a w document has been removed? ! @ : h 74 Mr r. Rocca. Well, of course -- and the purpose,..and that the system employed, as I recall it, a numbering device which worked from the first paper, which was number one, up, | ” | = °° 4 dt would have to be signed for. a 6 | Mr. Goldsmith. Fine. e | ef I Mr. Rocca. Now this is the advantage of using the e a machine. v a4 Mr. Goldsmith. Which machine are you referring to, Cc a : - an 3 = ‘0: sir? ef Mr. Rocca. The computer. ~ 44 } Mr. Goldsmith. What purpose dces the computer cc i . = Hi @ a 33 | serve? _ i Mr. Rocca. The computer serves to give a permanent & is : record to a title, and the removal of that title cannot take ~ is | place without creating a record, and therefore it is always > iH aN | traceable. This represented, therefore, as these questions 5 i = sy were being discussed during the '50's, the answer to either “ i = | arbitrary or inadvertent removal. At least it always seemed c 74 o " ' to be that way and a lot of other people agreed. th came Ae ause r iN “~ } Mr. Rocca. Let me say, in addition, on that point | i i } so that any paper that had been removed lower than the top : CONFIDENTIAL ALEERSON BESORTING COMPANY, INC. i Docld:32263409 Page 214
212 CONFIDENTIAL | paper would, unless it had been replaced by another, or if i ie the entire numbering system had not been altered, have appeared a immediately as absent. This was the device for internal rr control that functioned during the first years of the system.. fin Mr. Goldsmith. Normally, ina 201 file, are the i documents filed chronologically? By that, I mean the earliest \ document, the first document to go into the file, which might: t ~~ 2002h €202) $5-239n5 Mm be the field personality file request form that led to the opening of the file, that would be the first document, and nec, then the next document in time would go immediately on top of it, and so on, so that effectively documents are in the ! UASILUCTON , file in the same sequence in which they were made available | to the file. Mr. Rocca. But the 201 would not be the repository for a personal history questionnaire. and that kind of thing; | REPORTERS BUTLD EES, that is, the key documents in establishing a fiduciary Sw. relationship would not be in the 201. They would be in a oe & STRERT, separate file held by the desk and whoever was handling the a ©) individual... 30n 7TH | | { | Mr. Goldsmith. That's a separate question. i Aside from that, however, would the documents normally { go into the file in chronological order? wees 22 ny | | Mr. Rocca. Let me assure you, Mr. Goldsmith, that | { | | ta as iH H nn ae there are people who are far better informed on this topic 1 ! if Hh Ww in than I am, and therefore whatever I say should be taken cum : CONPIDENTIALBZ | RSCN REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 4 ate Docld:322763409 Pate 215 ALDER
213 CONFIDENTIAL grano sale, as they say, with a grain of salt. i Mr. Goldsmith. Normally in a 201 file, will the | w | documents be filed sequentially? dm { \ i i | if i Mr. Rocca. And I want that to be very well tn understood. The whole matter of records, in other words, is cr. t t | ™ i \ H a matter for which people are paid very high salaries, and i | | they have been in charge in this area from the very beginning, { But changes and modifications. to::the system have taken place. 202" (202) SS4-24945 oo io) ' { Cy fn. But I would defer to their statements with respect to a number of the questions that you have asked. Mr. Goldsmith. Have you had occasion to review ; LOE MCVPE RE WAL any 201 files? Mr. Rocca. Yes, I've read many, many of them. Mr. Goldsmith. Hundreds of them? BUTEDTHG, aw Mr. Rocca. Not hundreds, I would say. I can't -- | th RERPOHEP RS ¢ a figure like that -- but I have read many of them. i. | . Mr. Goldsmith. To the best of your recollection, ; Z aaa | did the files that you read contain their documents in the BF | | ¢ = 20 | ! t 1 i other words, I am asking you to respond to the question that I raised earlier. As a matter of routine, are the documents filed in | chronological order in which the documents arrived? In | { | | | | the 201 file in sequential or chronological order, so that the | earliest document would be on the bottom and the last document i : would be on top? CONFPIODENTIZIAR i i TERSON Docld:322763409 Pate 216 ALS ERSY REPORTING COMPANY, INC.