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DoctlId: WASHINGTON, D.C. REPORTERS “BUTLDING, Me 300 7TH STREET, S “2m024 (202) S5"-23N5° 32266912 ” page: 3. 2 sowie oe a a ar — » } ~~ access. If the House Floor says that the members should not have access, then of course it would be the resolution of the | Floor that would deny the member access and not our own rules, Basically, what it would do is that it would cause . the House of Representatives to take a second “look at the scope and impact of Rule 11, not as an abstract quest ion, of. principle, but as a concrete instance where if what the nenbex wanted access to was something that could be fairly. ce as the "family jewels," then it would be the burden of the | full committee to say that it is too risky to turn: “over. this a material to this member. | | It would then provide 4 mechanism for transferring that | decision to the Full House Floor and the Full: House Floor would then be in a posture of debating the issue. in the: concrete context, that is, ‘the specific request of a. a specific member to see a specific document, and you - could br ing to the | attention of the House the nature of that document without actually revealing it. If, of course, the House votes to ecih nike this instance, access would be granted. It is my judgment that the Agency would buy this rule as giving them the maxima = ee protection of the disclosure, or the routine, and automatic i | disclosure of the more sensitive methods, to 435 people e simply 4 on request. | The choices are hard. If we do not adopt it, 1 I think the (SG SS RSsTTesS SS Se SS ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. ING. |
DoctlId: 2 3 4 a = 5 GN ‘t a 6 2 7 $ 8 Cc ™ a = 10 SJ & SC = | a x => 12 co - 2. ae Bos = 15 & Qos Bove = 46 “17 EO ma] 1g = 19 e- | See SL. 23 24 25 32266912 “Page 10 _ 1-8 | | Agency simply will not permit us to explore sensitive sources | and methods like the Mexico issue in our hearings. and the onl way we will get the information out of the Agency is by a os sensitive declassification process in the Agency first. o { need to have the information over here to work with it. If we bring it over here to work with it and cannot give them some protection in the context of Rule 1l, they. will not give it to us. That is the dilemma you are in. I am prepared to discuss with you the exact. langtiage of Rule 11 and the exact language of the Intelligence committee '4 | rule, and Mrs. Berning has for you the text of the rule | change. . Sawyer. Would it be feasible to enter into an agreement with the Agency that gave them the right ‘to. recall at any time they want the documents covered by. ‘the cagrement, so if they were advised that there was now a- request, to révie them, we would get a binding agreement and give it back to them? 4 Mr. Blakey. We discussed that with them and the kind of feeling that they had, and that we had, was. that ‘once they give us the documents to work with over here, including (our own transcripts--in other words, if we have a closed order. examination of an Agency employee over what was going on’in Mexico, it is hard to argue that our transcript of that, hearing is a document that they gave to us and they‘can. ve a ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY. ING. >
Oo DocId: D.C, 20024 (202) S5H-2305 REPORTERS, BUILDING, WASHINGTON, Site 300 ITH STREET: 32266912 Page = | | | | that if we get a document that shows some very, very sens sitivd | I | | | | | 4 i | | \ | | i | | recall. And I think we just have to bite the bullet. and . say that once we put it in our hearings, it is ours. a Then Rule 11 is explicit that what is ours. “belongs: to: th | House and that is every member of the House. We tried that, Mr. Sawyer. Mr. Sawyer. I just threw it out. Mr. Fithian. Well, then, Bob, what you are. saying is aspects of surveillance and we make that a part. of our “record | when we get ready to fold up shop, in our records is. this. | document where we reguire the maximum security, and. the inability then of the Assassination Committee to” make available to the public our record falls seriously. into an ‘question first. _ | Mr. Blakey. I think that is true. There are certain things, and in other words when we are dealing with: what. . happened in the assassination, everything cannot. be made public. If we begin dealing with the way in “which: certain things were learned, I think we have to recognize, that that probably, unless we can convince the Executive ‘Department’ to ‘in effect declassify it, it will not come out... ) oo Mr. Fithian. It will not what? | | Mr. Blakey. It will not be made public, .— Mr. Fithian. What physically happens to. ity ‘then? * Mr. Blakey. Well, it would be part of our: “record ae te | t aL: | ALDERSON. REPORTING COMPANY. ING? a
‘2024 (202) $54-2345 - D.C. DING, WASHINGTON, REPORTERS, BUTL } ‘Doora:39266912- 3007 TH STREET, page —" “Oo Ws) oo “I ns, oe oO wo as + For example, Embassy, Mr. i} I want to see, will be in effect classified in our records and our’ ‘records will probably be turned over to-~I suspect the ‘best. “repositor would be the House Intelligence Committee. that is a wire tap, and the physical ‘surveilance,, a highest degree, ‘photographing surveillance, a sensitive surveillance . to the. and it poses potential problems for the ; existing Mexican Government. Fithian. JI am in full support of the” proposition an “i Our committees, Mr. Blakey. ‘they have. tells us, we can talk The Cuban Government has provided to us as. a witness, the Mr. Mr. ‘question comes up, who was the person who; applied ‘for | ‘the. wise The. other answer is, to the degree, that once you go back to Cornell and we: go. back to what actually happens to that?- Those documents will go to the, Intelligence ‘Committee who will look them up like the. other, ‘documents: that application in Mexico City, and can we believe: what, the “agenc which calls immediately into question, the. natuze of man who filled out the visa application. Devine. Information Act, Intelligence Committee? Blakey. their surveillance, the wire taps and the Photographs . and bas in oa minute about what came out in. Cuba. Those are free from the Freedom of and they are in the custody of the Because it is in the possession of Congress ALDERSON: REPORTING COMPANY, INC. | the Agency had a surveillance. on the oa a | A eee
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20024 (202) S5N-234S° Pa 9 = t| = i es i | 2 i x i = 12 | O.¢. “a i = 1s | o i = . 16 | s | re aod ee | ab : i me | a “S$ 20 | | Cw) EP ID DocId: 32266912. . i w ta te eee ao ™ understanding that CIA is willing to risk a Floor procedure? Mr. Blakey. Yes. Mr. Fauntroy. My second question, therefore, isi How do . { you distinguish the House Intelligence Committee and. its rules, a 1 from that of our Select Committee? 7 ! Mr. Blakey. Well, I think the House Intelligence. Committee rule is in opposition to Rule 1l. They: havé adopted a rule in contradiction to the Rules of the House, Asa lawyer, I say tat and I cannot suggest to you that you adopt | . ee their rule. .Their rule explicitly says that the House Intelligence Committee can deny. you access to a document in their possession. Rule 11 of the House says that if it is in possession, they can condition your access, time place and manner but- this) cannot deny it. | | | | me : Mr. Fauntroy. My only concern, Mr. Chairman, therefore | is that we get access. Now, if we can get access through this means, that is fine. but if we cannot, if the House | | Intelligence Committee can do it, for the sake of our mandate, I have no objection to adopting their rule. ok Mr. Sawyer. That is the way I feel about it, too.. | Chairman Stokes. Do we have a copy of the House | . Intelligence Committee Rule? Mr. Fithian. May I come in here? I am not the careful stickler on this, Mr. Blakey, but it would seem to me that. we wa. wel a. nen Ree AAA Clara: : . ye i
Ss ee eS Ss See D.C, 20020 (202) S5u=2345 - REPORTERS: BUILDING, WASHINGTON, “S.W. 300 7TH STREET, o might be able to adopt a rule just simply saying that in the handling and for security purposes in the handling.of documents from the Intelligence Committee, they shall be -handled in accordance with the Intelligence Committee rules for the House of Representatives. . Mr. Blakey. Of course, then you go and read that and “yo go to Rule 11 ané Rule 11 controls the detail. 9 Mr. Dodd. Could I ask one question there? Tam concerned about really one aspect of this. I would like to see us do whatever can be done to gain access immediately: to this information. My real concern comes here, that -all-of us hearings next year, that we would make public all and’ any. information. that helped us. arrive at the results we haves, An that information would be available to the public. ‘T am-torn, myself, over the desire to get.at this, and then faced with the dilemma of having to renege on. a” commitment that we felt was important. I do not think we anticipated this kind of a thing facing us, and that “is. my principal concern at that particular juncture. — oe | | | here have made a pledge that at the conclusion of ‘these. | | | | | | | Mr. Blakey. The issue arises like this. The process. ! . : o. rir | 4 eee Tt that we have been going through is a two-step process. First * | | re . . . weg 2 it is access and second it is disclosure. When. it comes time ; ilto write the final report, suppose we wanted to’ tell. the. ee ii American people about Oswald in Mexico, and the only. way to dq. | a5 ALBERSON REPORTING COMPANY. ING. U7
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LS27 w of not living up to your majority rule might not be a.' sufficient deterrent to the disclosure. Chairman Stokes. I have a question and maybe Jim Wolfe» + | 1. the proper person to answer the question, but. ‘each time we a Sel amend the rules, do we then again republish. our rules? S i Mr. Wolfe. All we have to do is add an amendment to. the ae end, and we now have our pamphlet with one glued amendment ‘on’ a yf at and we will have to glue the new amendment on. at the: end co and we will not have to republish them. a ng wo “S or Chairman Stokes. Also previously-~-and I do “not ‘know. El | whether it is required by the House Rules or not-~but we. did. - = 12 | put our rules into the congressional Record, and are en -£ ag | amendments required? = al Mr. Wolfe. Not necessarily. I do not think:we are... a || necessary required, and they are public in the ‘Sense. that =" | -every person who gets a copy of our rules will get” a copy. “of = 18 4 = | this provision with it. le 7 —s ' Chairman Stokes. What about House members? ve Be TB, _ ve ag pe og Mr. Wolfe. If the House member wants access, it has not. £1? | happened yet, bit they have asked us sometimes.on the phone ee . $..20-d-how to do it, and we would send them a copy: of: the: rules. and ee oo at | the rule dealing with access would be at the end. “In the same | @ fa? 22 | way the Intelligence Committee's rules are public, our rulés ; 13 | obviously would be public. O 2 | Chairman Stokes. Are there any further questions? If Z| it Docld: 32266912 © Page 1g oY RLGERSON REPORTING. COMPANY. INC. |
1-18 | Z not, the chair will entertain a motion. 1 Mr. Preyer. I move the adoption of this rule amendment , I “| Mr. Chairman. 7 a Chairman Stokes. It has been properly moved “that the uf | rules of the committee be amended as per the rules. _anendrent aa now before the members. The amendment is as follows: | | 13.11. Members who desire access to restricted, “8 | including classified and confidential, or sensitive... 9°] ingormation that has in addition been designated-by the _ (10. | Chairman as primary information, shall be required. to request Oo ~ a ‘goa 7TH STREET, SW. REPORTERS GULLDING WASHINGTON, B.C. 20024 (202). 554-2345 Docld:32266912 . _Presenty: at. the earliest opportunity. se rent request. -If the member's request is not. granted, the “iccommittee shall forward the member's request, together with a | recommendation and report of the committee, to the ‘House. 7 | the committee did not grant the member's request; the amber | 1 [ shat have access to the primary information only subsequent 19 to a determination by the House that the membér.'s request © ap | should be granted. . a i al | Mrs. Berning. Mr. Stokes. | Chairman Stokes. Aye. Mrs. Berning. Mr. Devine. Mr. Devine. Aye. Pag¢ 20 co  atbeason neon TING COMPANY. ING. Such access in writing to the Committee. Rach such request by| g a member must be considered by the committee, a. majority, bein “The committee may, by record vote, grant. ‘the member ' s Lfiosr 16. | If
Docld: 202" nc. 32966912 (202). 854-7905 VASHTNGTON , REVORTERS: BULLD ING. oa os S n =. ~ ce a Be | “ls19 ty | Mrs. Berning. Mr. Preyer. | Mr. Preyer. Aye. Mrs. Berning. Mr. McKinney. | Chairman Stokes. Aye by proxy. ; Mrs. Berning. Mr. Fauntrcy. 8 | Mr. Fauntroy. Aye. a Mrs. Berning. Mr. Thone. mg | ‘There was no response.) at Mrs. Berning. Mrs. Burke. 10 : (There was no response.) al -Mrs. Berning. Mr. Dodd. . ' Chairman Stokes. Aye by proxy. 3 | - Mrs. Berning. Mr. Ford. ne oy ; Mr. Pord. Aye. | a Mrs. Berning. Mr. Fithian. . 15 | owe, Fithian. Aye. : a Mrs. Berning. Mr . Edgar. 17 | Mr. Edgar. Aye. a Mrs. Berning. There .are ten Wayes," Mr. ‘Chairman. a | Chairman Stokes. Ten members having voted in the ig | affirmative, the rules amendment is adopted. : | Pte ; "| appropriate to raise, particularly while everybody is here. oS} it is a very sensitive matter, and we ought to get some feel a . aro’ 3) Erom it. 25 | o ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANYAING. | Mr. Blakey. There is one other matter which it may be -
2002" (202) SS4-23n5 Ac. é HEMGTON, pat BUTEDING, Wa REPORTERS S.U: 199 7TH STREET, ~~. 4 Oo oO ‘ Docld: 32266912 jm ~ se Ww ~ in “oo a ln You will recall while we were in Cuba, Mr. Chairman, we discussed on the beach one issue and this deals with an issue that is important. The Central Intelligence Agency suggested the only way we could have conversations in private was to stand on the beach and face the United States, that is out to | the ocean. So, at certain times we went to the beach and faced the ocean to have conversations. . Chairman Stokes. I am glad that you clarified-that. © You can get the wrong impression. a Mr. Fauntroy. I was about to become very disqusted with that and the rested look that you had when you returned. Mr. Blakey. The tan covers the bags under my“eyess 2 Chairman Stokes. While he was watching the United ‘States, you saw the latest maneuvers of the latest MIG fighter i } { | t \ | | | | | 28@-yards off the beach. | ‘8 Mr. Blakey. It was 200 yards. | va Chairman Stokes. It was some display of its agility. | | . | 18. Mr. Edgar. Did they know you were there? | 1s | Chairman Stokes. Yes. | 20 | Mr. Blakey. The issue raises as follows: Our. rules are | an explicit for no electronic surveillance and by that’I mean not “i pe . | even the wire tapping which is obviously beyond the-.pale,,.but | no central recording either. 2303 og Be | As all of you now know, there are two informants in the 25 4 i): : ae Page) 22 | SRP mMESEON REPORTING COMPANY ING. 7” oe
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Docld 20024 (202) S5W=29N5 STON, 0.C. Tear WAS REPORTERS BUTLDING, S.M, 30 77H STREET, 139966912 o.. nw de tn “Bagd. kind of a situation and ‘it would be possible for us to. follow | ‘this point. So, I would suggest taht we mill it ‘over. in dur it at some future time, because I think that there are some it is not something tat “has to be decided today, but it: is something that has to be decided next week. think about, and have further dialogue with one another on; . ‘and then we can entertain it at some later date. Mr. Blakey. The Supreme Court has decided a case” on this | { t | | \ ' { | 1 and they have set up the rules that should be followed in- this those rules and not invade the attorney-client privilege. Chairman Stokes. .I waS aware of that general principle. Mr. Edgar. Given the information that we have so far, I think we ought to put this in our thinking and think about | | very seriously before we get involved in any kind of action cat | oe minds and keep it within the committee structure and deal. with very, very serious questions. . Blakey. “They are extremely serious, no matter what “decision you take. wee in ae | Mr. Edgar. If I would” have an opportunity: to vote: now, y ; co oa | would vote "no." ~ “4 | . | Mr. Blakey. Whatever decision you make you run risks and! Chairman Stokes. I think the gentleman is absolutely right, that this is something that the committee needs to — | | | | 7 | : | | | Mr. Edgar. Before we adjourn, I would Like to. reiterate | ! 1 t t ‘@ comment I made to you, that it seems to me sit. would be 24 2 oS pepeeson REPORTING COMPANY INGE
Doctld: helpful in the next week or two to have at least an -hour too meeting of our committee to bring together all of us to get a nN 4 summary report of where we are in terms of status with: each of | g. 5 | the investigations, the foreign contacts, the process of where| a . jv are going, and I think we are in need of that at this” | ook point. | a a | Chairman Stokes. Your comments to me were ‘brought. to the| a, og | By attention of Mr. Blakey. -today and he is going to- follow | aS - through with that. | z 10 | Mr. Blakey. There are a number of santa sa‘nigucie B | that are occuring day by day, and I am finding it a problem $ || being brief, but I have obviously no problem with: keeping, you week. Chairman Stokes... There being nothing further at’ this REPORTERS. BULLDING, “time, the meeting is adjourned subject to the call of “thé. chair. SoM. x ab tWhereupon at 4: 55, ‘the committee adjourned: subject’ to the call of the chair.) | ITH STREET, 306 n> ' : . 24a h . 32266912 © paat | 25. ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, ING. | | people up to. date and we ‘can certainly do that within the. ne-next , | (
. RULES AMENDMENT (a majority must be present) \ RESOLVED: ‘The Rules are hereby amended, by adding a new - section 13.11 to provide as follows: 13.11 ‘Members who desire access to restricted (including classified and confidential) or sensitive information that has in addition been designated by the Chairman oe as primary information, shall be required ~ to request such access in writing to the : Committee. Each such request by a’ Member ~ must be considered by the Committee, a. - majority being present, at the earliest = Oo Opportunity. The Committee may, by record. :. vote, grant the Member's request. If the Member's request is not granted, the. ~Committee shall forward the Member's re- quest, together with a recommendation and report of the Committee, to the House. If the Committee did not grant the Member's request, the Member shall have access to the primary information only subsequent. to a a: determination by the House that the Member'! So request should be granted. ae Docld: 322966912. Page 26