(ro4-t0217-40080] - * mmngprnt \ + vee ememmany § aan gn = a Ly ht ¥ * \ e Meno for the Record TO ¢ Mr. William Sturbitts ' oer ~ ¥. SUBJECT: Reitiol GONZALEZ “Monzales -/Comments on Interview in May 1979 in Miami. fi | f | cit Vou Lgl This Subject was interviewed on the occagionoft both our visits to Miami and we spent at least some 6 hours with him and still haven*t finished, He toIid us on the occasion of the last wieit that he still wants to tell us about some things going son im the “uban exile comministy in Miami, that some Cubans are . buying arms and planning actions against CASTRO, etc. He wants to tell us, he said, thaB -we'll know and won't be surprised but he denies all part for himself in any such illegal actions, He does j not believe it possible, given internal and external conditions now prevailing, to overthrow CASTRO anytime soon but Says if i¢ were possible, he would be the first to start preparations for thet purpose. When we next go to Miami we will listen to what additional he has to saye | 2. Subject was for the writer the most interesting and perhaps the most oroductive of the peonle we were assigned to interview, This guy is cut from a different mold from the other 7, He is tough, intelligent, cunning, shrewd , lacking in formal education, but a real toughinefighter who knows what he wants and knows how to go about it. He is, too, I think, a real opportunist, and this ee anata Heep atte Ia: may explain in part his reason for putting on the 6 Nov 61 TV~ ‘SLSTIPEND program. I had the fe@ling repeatedly that he was not really ‘project. coming clean,on many of our questions, but the only two questions [ xecuted by to which hg¢reacted noticeably were the ones about the TV program 'GOC. Files and Octavio BARROSO, These two visibly upset him eventho I feel jindicate he knew or thought they would be thrown at him and hehad his iReinol knew answers Rrepareds More about the TV program and BAR20SO later. BARROSO. Cifoe CIOS Se nee 3, This man started out as the Secretary-gemeral of the Unica Si of Christain Workers (UTC), at one point belonged to the ARD( an ‘\ association of young democratic people), the MRP for a while,etc. z In 1959 he was named foreign relations secretary of the Confederation ee ntencp siesta nna se a of Cuban Workers (CTC),however, at the election of officers in late 3 1989 CASTRO showed up and imposed his slate, a Communist slate for Go ~ eS © the most cart on the congress, Subject was required to turn over | 4 & Taras nme 9 (} CONFIDENTIAL aoa KAAZ—- SIS 4 7 Ah gn 124833 103 |
14-00000 od. oe oo “ ; Be 7 CONFIDENTIAL ( -20 odes his post as foreign relations secretary to~Ovter-ALVAREZ. He and ALVAREZ had been on opposite ends politically in previous years, when ALVAZEZ was working at the Chase Manhattan Bank in Havana and representing the bank workers union, but they had put aside their differences to work together against BATISTA. Then, when CASTRO came along he propelled ALVAREZ to the post in the CTC to which Subject had democratically been chosen. The imposition of CASTRO's slate tock place at a CTC congress in Nov 1960, He claims that he has never seen ALVAREZ since the business of turning over his files to ALVAREZ was done in 1960. He knows of course that ALVAREZ went on to other jobs, eventually to the Cuban Embassy in Madrid, and eventually defected to the US. He. ‘elaims to have no use for ALVAREZ, he's a dedicated Commie and he “wouldn't trust ‘iis Lilwsiap _. ALES . Ams Djert elf sas sal 4,}or, E1éna‘Mederos - is the aunt of “PUJAL’ Mederos. She is currently working with the Human Xights Commission in Washington, pc. Subject says that some 30 years ago when he knew her pretty well she was democratic or leftist in her politics but very lefte fist in her economics . He described her as @ revoluti@nary of @ | > ! 4 a. ¢C 2 sort, with lots of prestige in uba in these aaa piel ats 8, So far as he’s a wa re there was only one Octavio BARROSO sq the one you're talking about is the same one known to hia, the game one shot in late 1961 or early 1962, he’s not certain exactl . when. He claims that PUJAL and BARROSO were captured at the same , time or at about the same tig gthat it sight have been PUJAL who reported to G-2 on Xx “but in any case he(Subject) didn't do it. There were others in jail at that time, also, he says, who could have told G-2 about BARROSO's revolutionary activities. As stated, that question, as did the one on the Tv program, visibly tupset him so I°s not at all sure that we got the truth. 6, Subject was arrested on ll October 1961 in a raid oa the Cesar Odio Farm, along with a number of r people. On 30 Septmber 196L a woman belonging to his unit, Dalit RGE, was arrested, allegedly placing a bomb in a comvany there in Havana called Ci&e, Subject was carrying documentation in alias but almost immediately he was confronted with Dalia who identified him to G«2, But, the | most irportant evddence is the fact that over the next few days | - and weeks those known to Dalia in that organization were arrested; those not known to her were not, Although alledgedly arrested ; planting a bomb, she was almost: immediately released and was soon walking the street. A few months later Dalia, had married a Lieutenant ;in Ge2, She later divorced the Lteutonangsf whose name Subject cquld not c Ap with) and then married Cagro: RUBIERA, a nephew of i Vicente "RUBIERA: who lives in Miami , “lorida and works for the C10. PTE ae 7, The TV program - why? It was the first such appearance by anyo: arrested that could be called in favor of CASTRO. The MRP had a pact amongst themselves, he claims, which stated 2) This, js, J*yst?, gon ALVEREZ de la Campa y. Sotelongo who defected u. COW tenn bia we Pane eT we . ~ ied . a
14-00000 sees ce oe ee ee Hel REDO eRe EIDE yt OY EBINS ~ * hp weep pen NATE ERE RECSETNERne nor cE mingeRpeSrOCTnT exueeeere-hn eecomtntaneeNREI MN yuna 4 wane mntnewer = = oe FIDENTIAL CON Big AEST A, £O% there eee ork. that anyone captured would not talk for 72 hours, to give those still free time to change hidding places, etc, then one would be permitted, if forced to, to tell minor things, things it was thzouocht the Ge2 might already know, He was taken to a place referred to as POINT X and stripped naked. He was interrogated almost continuously, lights were kept en and all sorts of threats were made against him. He could hear in the building the voices of others ipyam to him in the MRP, among givers Fernandd ‘Rojas, Fernan aera eom in Caracas), _b- Robert6' Jimenez. “is interrogators were Isidaro ERCA, how f24 £4764 / * Minister of Foreign Relations, but then just a secretary to the OM 52 entire HOG * Spsose of Interior, MALMIERCA was assisted at times by Lt. ALFONSO (fnu}, apparently an assistant to MALMIERCA, who was much wore intelligent and much better trained than MALMIERCA, The latter did a poor job and got little out of Subject but ALFONSO did a much better job . ‘After several days he was told that CASTRO himself would visit thim and. personally conduct the interrogatién. He claims that he told MALMIERCA that that would de no good for it was CASTRO himself he helped to teach Subject many years before how to fight the Commies and prevent their penetration into the labo mente As @ result, he says, CASTRO did not come but: Rawird? ALDEZ did,: VALDEZ told him that the decisicen had already been made not to shoot him ( Subject) but that some or most of the military section people of his organization (MRP) in jail wouldhave to pay with their lives for what they, -ubject and others of the BRP had done, The only way he could save them, VALDEZ said, would be to go on TV and tell the nation what his organization had been doing, tell them how useless resistance to CASTZO was, and at the same time condem the US for its complicity in anti-CASTRO efforts, his own thinking and size up of the s&ate of things. He claims that 1) he had decided some time earlier that internat resistance of the sort the MRP was donducting was useless, and 2) that it would be better to leave the country and fight from abroad, and 3) that he had proposed just such a zove at a large meeting of MRP leaders held just a few days before his capture, However, the student and workers* representatives at that meeting did not support such a move 60 mo action was taken, then came his own arrest, Now, Subject claims that some of this fitted after a fashicn into : } ’ An attemnt was to have been made on CASTROts life, using a bazooka from a room overlooking a public plaga where CASTRO was to appear on 4 October 1961, and VALDEZ had found out about thase plans, through Dalia, 9ubject assumes, Anyway, Subject clains that three people were to have gone up to the room, which had been preperly prepared and an escape route worksdWvout just pricr to the ceremony, Of the three, one guy, Antonio VALADE ciana got scold feet and took off for the States instead, Rad] ‘VENTA Del) Mazo was there but did not fire the weapon, for some reason not known to Subject, and the third man, whose name he could not renember, aprarently did not go up to the room either. ee
14-00000 CONFIDENTIAL Bell, believing that such resistance activities were in fact futile and beiieving that CASTRO would in fact shoot his men, and believing that he could all alone determine what was to be said on TV, he decided that to accept the offer was the correct thing to do, He could not hawe the blood of others on his hand, he said, uniéss something very worthwhile was being accomplished. He professed to VALDEZ, however that he had no authority all by himself to gake that decision and asked _¢0 discuss it with three or four MRP leaders there in jail with him. VALDEZ agreed that he could discuss it withFPernando ROJAS . but with so one else, and that was done. ROJAS reluctantly : ‘approved. , " | } \ | i | He wrote the presentation he was to give on TV and he siad : | no substantive changes were made by the Cubans. He constructed i it, he saij, to 1) tell them as much as possible what they | wanted tohear without doing any real harm, 2) protect those ' still at large, and 3) give away as little senstitive information > \ as possible, He said he yealized fully what he was doing, that | he would do it acain if caught in the same situation, and that he takes full responsibility now as then for what he did and said and still feels it was the only logical think he could do, Again, this was not 4 subject he enjoyed discussing; he appear ed in fact a bit embarassed by it all, but he knew it would be coming at some pointe 8, Why didn't the Cubans release him after the ransom was pajd . ‘them? Because he would not sign a oaper in effect saying was sorry and asking CASTRO's forgiveness. He meet with Alo : JO and three G-2 military officers to discuss the relea se and the condittons of the release one day after the ransom had been paid, ' and when he refused the Ge2's conditions PUJOL took a piece of i paper out and scribbled on it an agreement, which said Subject ‘ would cbligate himself not to become involved again in antie ‘ CASTRO activities if released, and he agreed to sign that. In | fact, he did sign it. PUJOL then handed it to the militay officess but they said the Cuban Yovt could not accept it. It was after that that the money was reutrned. Peon did he get out when he did? Through the efforts of Gabriel CIA Marquez, a Mexican novelist and reporter in Mexico ‘ity and -. .a good Briend of CASTRO and other high Cuban leaders and of Subject 4 rand his wife, Subect's wife and GARCIA's wife are particularly close, as are GARCIA's wife and Subject's children. - 10, Subject’s wife had contacted ,many people, promient people in an effort to bring about Subject s release but had had no luck unti the GARCIA's went to work”on it. In early November (he thirks) of 1977 GARCIA and wife visited Cuba and snent sometime with CASTRO, GARCIA's wife allegedly told CASTRO that she had one important i favor to ask of him, to release a good ffrend of theirs who had by “e then held for many years. CASTRO promised to do it immediately. : However, by 11 Dec 77 Subject was still not out and GARCIA, on his 9 . wa. ign to receive some sort of literar i t B2YePhy in Havana to see what he could fin Sure stopesa first - <3 Cus Bet bh @ 8 ae the
14-00000 Sroceemee  satmet SeeESAE SOR Ay et ti menyrer nt ma me om aot Onn nee oy nage gy te”  Oerreomarenaaticnia oO 8 ae coe les em ae om aan CON FIDENTIAL ‘Carlos nated % RIGUEZ, &HG RElayed the word to CASTRO and the latter went to see GASCIA at his hotel room, He told GAPCIA that he was sorry that he had not been able to release Subject when promised but that there were many in the top - echelon of govt that nere opposed to his release and that i¢ took him some time tobring them around, However, he called or spoke to ABRANTES, who was with him at that time, and told him to find Subject and have him brought to Ge2 offices the next morning at 1000 hours, That was done and in fact a Vea? colonel drove Subject to the airport, obtained his passport, etc, and he set off at 1700 hours on 12 December in the gape plane with GAPCIA, The Cp Aolonel who drove him to the airport was-Colone] Manuel “BLANCO » who was generally. referred to a Malo, Several of our other subjects had contact with this guy and most found hia reasonable, intelligent and very nilitary. z 11." GONZALES, who spoke only in Spanish, although understands some English and undoubtedly speaks some, is a member of the committee which helped to negotiate the release of political ‘prisoners with CASTRO, and he will continue to do all in his power, he says, to accom plish that objective, He has been to Jamadea once to neggtiate with Cuban authorities, and once . “to Havana, My team member will cover those activities in his report r ! | : 12, Subject ie working for himself and has been for sometime 3 he is in the used clothes business, and exnects to rent a place for his business on 8th Street, SW, in the 5600 block, 1 believe, at an early date, He expects to cater pretty much to Latin Americans traveling to the US, hopefully mostly Veneaselans and Brazilians for they are the ones with the most spending money, He's already sold to many of them, has & good many friends and contacts in Venezuela, and believes ‘that he'll get a lot of business from Latin America, He has a friend who is prepared to make a $10,000 loan, and @ bank i has agreed to finance him to the tune of $20,000 and it'1l take about $30,000 to steck his business adquately. He can and will get short term credit from some of his suppliers but will probably be limited to 60 to 90 days, He's very optizistic about the future, appears in good health, although somewhat over weight, and his wife works, The works in the office for a Puerto ican oacking company. 13. Suv§ect w as most appreciative for the offer of a physical :@xamination, and he knows that he has no Beney on escrow with the Agency. Nevertheless, he probably is expecting some finaancial* compensation for his time in orison, although this was never mentioned specifically, Tidbits of info provided by him on people on the long list, as well as on others and other subjects will be or has been included in other reports. * 7 CunrieNTIAL SE
14-00000 ’ CONFIDENTIAL Written by Carl Jenkins on basis of interviews done: Debrie“ina Raports 17 & 2h May 1979 , , Subject: Reinel GONZALEZ Gonzalez (far Nares "Antonio®) DPOS: 24 Apr 32, Manceuito, Matanzas, Cuba Address (25 May 79): 7642 $.U, 96th Court, Miami, Plorida 33173 (Tel: 20& /5%#~4197)} ee. Parents: RBasilfo GONZELE2 Parez and Prudencia GOUuZPALEZ Pena (Both deceased when Subject was an infant. He was reared as an orphan, prirarily by the Catholic Church.) Siblings: None Vv Wifes Teresita ALVAREZ Fernandez, 20 Aug 34, Saqua La Grande, Las Villas, Cuba Children: Twing: Reinol A. CONZALE2 Alvarez, and Cecilia Maria GUIZALDZ Alvarez (born 20 Oct 61, Miari, Florida. Both completing 12th graée 1979.) Contact information on wife, Teresita: Secretary for Savoy Packing Co, Sales 9*fiee, 444 Rriekell Avenue, Hlarni, Florida. (fel: 295/374-7079) 5 I Biograpiiical Nata, Nistorica) tn*ornations In 1959, Subject was a labor union leader in the bank workers’ section of the Union of Christian Yorkers (UTC). In November 19559, Conmunists took control of the Cuban Labor Confederation (CTC). Subject opposed that move and was one of the founders of the Accion Democratica Revolucionagia (ADR), a Catholic anti-c © group, alone with An ® FERNANDE? Nuevo} Jty/an res VALDESPT:0,/Rouf, Antonio BASTARRICA, and /Or< AniYf{o ‘PIALLO. Subject £fxst made contact with the Agency ; Sate 137 258 in 1959 through Rev. Enrique ‘OSLE, who introduced Subject to . Ber. 23% 40 /Professor Jamés O'MATLIA (*Pepe*) of Villanueva University, or VRP RG CARRE BURA 0 emt ae EMER NAE bg RAR O OR poy as lefts Bates  oRURTITINND + ase reteReE wotPe or memes on otees gnc mn lle aon taeettomen s <= a eh, y at ia ha ” - ' . . 7 > = Fs e - 4 . + oye * . 7 yoy ; ‘ ‘ . ° an Agency representative, *°Pepe”™ offered economic help and arms for the anti-Castro labor movement, The ADR began anti- CONFIDENT ee | = eo = les 2
14-00000 Ee a al rene a pet Me es decane meee em TE e Fe Ne neg ali ee om sh a He CR RCI on ie ones NNR Ory CONFIDENTIAL. -im four hours. In Miani, Subject met at the PanAmerican Rotel - nobody he was going to Miami. He went first to Puerto Rico CONFIDENTIAL het bow be Rone GONZALEZ Gonzalez, ‘Reinoi . bags 2 Castro activities by Jan/Feb 69, Subject dealt with “Pepe” on behalf of the ADR. The ADR was absorbed into the RP when it was organized in Octoher 1969, The MRP leaders were all former GOC officials who had broken with Castro, Subject was Coordinator of Labor Activities for the MRP. in September 19 pe Subject decided to go to Miami to o pole bef gi] confer with @l ARTIME Ruesa, the external representative of the MRR. He told "Pape®, who arranced a visa for Subject with “Mr. Jin Smith® (actually Jim Brown, a Miami Case Officer) in a private meeting. Subject told "Smith" money was not needed in Cuba; they needed arms and materials. Subject told to a labor meeting for cover, then to Miami. Back in Cuba, Subject arranced three supply drops through *Pepe*™ in Bec 66/ Jan 61. Two fell inte Security hands, and one went to a MRP group in the Fscambray. "Pepe® lived in “iranar and staved in Cuba until about Dec 61. Subject was in touch with bin until Subject’s arrest in Oct 61, Subiect also knew Jose PUJOL Mederos (possibly PORIALS) as an agent trained by the Agency in the U.S., who worked with the m®P and the small UR group. In late 1960, an internal fight broke out in the MRP, ‘ The MRP had been sending 0S$30,9791 per month from pesos collected and changed in Cuha on the black market to Miami to pay for arms. The MRP people in Miami kept the money and the Agency pl supplied the arms. Subject had put Manuel eee 5 free on a boat at Varadero to Miarni. Subject was ios Armee ys 52(07 infil/exfil and supply drops. Ray left Rogelio CiStiEROS 2a internal MRP coordinator. Ray failed to straighten out the SIS Oia TE eB Ee ttnen be, ie am Ee te eee ata - weet . . oe Ss ° I RE eR ES Na Pe ore AE RS gece Tea EE SO TT Ee ae at
14-00000 BS Sa SR gp de AE Re eo RE OS, ES he rae ai atee Stee CONFIDENTIAL GONZALEZ Gonzalez, Reinol Page 3 ness in Miami and the Aaa expelled him, recognizing ag la : their representatives Iqnaefo unrmozal in » and Antonio FERNANDES Nuevo, JoSa PRINZE, and Gustave GODOY. Subje & tried to stav out of internal fights and continued working directly with “Pepe*®. In March 1961, Cisneros went to Milam in an effort to get more arma for the “RP, and never came back, Subject was named internal coordinator until his arrest in October 1961, In late 1969, there was a series of meetings desiqned to unify the opposition to Castro. Subject met at one time or another WL, following people: reat of the Rescate Organization (dicd of cancer) Da KS Rioef the 30 Nov Moverent Octaio BARROSO Gomez, the only credible leader of the emall UR group. He was shot after being arrested and toertefred. Ivan PALCO! of the MRR ‘Albe GSTER of the DRE Subject propeseé to dissolve all existing organizations and form one new one to lead the fight. No agreement was ever reached, not even for unified military action or unified political action. The MRR/NRE had the most numbers and refused to cooperate, saying they had al] they needed and could do the job therselyes, Their snokesman from Miami was a DRE Pe G10 72, member, Julio” HERNANDEZ Rojo. : _ After the invasion, Pujol sent Alfredo IZAGUIRREL who had worked for hin, to the U.S. Jn the U.S., Alfredo did not represent Pujol, but clainedé himself to be chief of the MRP /UR -., CONFIDENTIAL 21 Berit 83s ete. ct ep rer aR ; : AGT CAR per veces ote 44 mmenateae y rieinpmna tn ty oD RN AR os 0.0 Gal) I SPUNEERORNENEEIONS 5 OLA BORED Alene Nah Oe coe Habe etree on re + on ie ~ roy yee ut e 2 : ms
14-00000 an oye a . : . mo, a whee sph : _ OUZLLAZ Gonzalez, teinol Page 4 a! . . CONFIDENTIAL group, On his return te Cuba, Al*redo claimed to be appointed by Washington as overall resistance chief for all of Cuba. Eubject and Pujol refused to cooperate with hin. ph nas caer ene panne = Pecans AAPOR OID ITER. AY A Arrest, Investications x On 30 Sep 61, an MRP member naned Dalia JORGE was arrested putting a bomh in the Habana Sears store. Ten days later, on 12 Oct 61, Subject was arrested. Subject believes she may weet me ee have been a G-2 penetration, or she may just have been recruited by them. Everybody she knew was arrested, the ones she didn't know were not. At a G-2 confrontation, she identified Subject by true name and personal data, alona with other MRP members. After a trial, she wag freed and married a G-2 officer, name Lb6b NGCERF une They were later éivorced and she married Carlos RUBIERA, nephew of vicente RURIEPA, a former leader of the Cuban Telephone Workers’ Union, now in Miami as APL/CIO rep~ i | 3 : i 4 { f resentative. Other MRP members arrested yere rornintte Xoans, a agp Hector Refie LOPEZ! (now in ‘iiamt), Raul FERNANDEZ Rivero (now no . era TD) ARPS tettie SRE NEN ah ne  eptete di NOREEAI Ome ee tn we won in Caracas), and Robefto ‘JIMFNFZ. nog eel Shen G-2 officer (now Poreian Minister) Isidoro RENTURCA, assisted by #@ Lieutenant *Alfonso*, who did most of the questioning, interrogated Subject and the MRP group. They ‘ . . mF . ORE RRBRRRNCES eR erryeener emer nnecensneweeytne mere e . ee t . ° . were the only ones to work on Subject, but vsed many sessions and long hours. They said Pidel Castro wanted to talk to Subject. Pidel never came, but Raniro Valdez did. Subject Coste oo . agreed to make a TV interview (7 Nov 61) in return for the oe ao ' lives of the people in his group, CONFIDENTIAL 1 ys te ° “aa, 13 eh dyad 2 Ree ME ate’ ~ acl ce Bs “gfe Fo uaa a), Hee trey. ad sete aiia Btn st seni Ba ei) = .
14-00000 nt re Seinen age, ~ foe Fe Ee EST ae. ® a COIMALEZ Gonzalez, Reinoi ; Page 5 - - CONFIDENTIAL Prison, Inteliicence, Information: In late 1969, a cormmi btee of aaa at Guanajay, com Ke of § ie t taller] aa Antonio KX, 00, ee ae Armenqol, met with a representative of the Ministry of the Interior, Lieutenant Mariano Rodriguez and the Guanajay Director, Lieutenant Cosne. The purpose was to work out a work-rehabilitation plan without political indoc- trination. They had three formal and several inforral meetings while visiting proposed work sites for schools, pig farns, etc. The Procressive Plan from the Ministry of the Interfor came in February 1979 as a result of these dis- eussions, ‘The plan was essentially that proposed by the prisoners, but the GOC added a proviso to °attend discussions of political matters.” About 100 orisoners agreed, others refused, The Ministry people explained it would consist only — — of listening to GOC officials reading Marxist pamphlets. The prisoners still refused. The Ministry finally struck that point and published the plan, without reference to political matters, The work-rehabilitation progran then began about late 1979 or early 1971. In 1970, a Sovlet General, advisor to the Ministry of the Interior, made an inspection of Guanaiay, with 8 or 10 _ other Soviets. Their escort was a lett, now a Major (name unknown), res thd Ministry. ‘The prisoners made a big racket im the messhall, banaing plates, etc. CONFIDENTIAL 7. or tee a eae Ota NAL ee, 8 BD, care, cigs IE By dada Gite ets lines aa ata ee 4 ean “ been ee eeetttye ont hae = th hilt e Solsto we matte thre” 4 ie ar rer . ar Ph ne 5 ae vt eng ee nl ti ete kpc e: 3 ,
r4-00000 cae cod ce meet cae cern nate . cb Ares AE eR 1 GONZALE? Gonzalez, “winc>. Pasa € - CONFIDENTIA! a4 bbe bbe Subject has no knowledqe of Cubans in Vietnam. ye 1507 Subject's cousin, Rene DIAZ Gonzales, served in Angola- for 12 months in 197576 as a Platoon Corporal in the motorized infantry. He was wounded in the richt leg in an ambush by a mine, His unit was isolated in the operations area and sur- vived on a supply of condensed milk they had with then. Diaz normally works as an one. a bus factory at Jiron in Ravana. Subject also met Lazaro HETIANDEZ, a COuban negro soldier, who was ordered to put on a local nniforn and try to pass ag an Angolan to mix with the locals and cather infornation. Hernandez refused, was arrested, sent back to Santa Amelia army camp near Habana for trial and sentencine. Rangom and Release tn/MaghSE°L 5 ° before the ransom money for Subject was paid, Guillerfo”ALONeo Pujol and 2 Cuban military officers talked to Subject at G? Fas about a ransom deal Alonso was handling. They wanted hin to aqree to a political indoctri- nation rehabilitation program, which Subject rejected. Alonse Proposed that Subject sien a letter renouncing any further political activities, but the GoC representatives rejected that deal. Subject went back to Guanajay prison. About Aug.79, after the ranson money was paid, 3 or 4 GOC officers cane to Subject brinaino unacceptable conditions for his release. Re refused to (1) sign a document apologizing for his past actions; (2) sien a docurent that, at the time he CONFIDENTIAL ® = dn re nails teenth eontebove neteb ata escent ane r Sane cenetnaneeS Se
14-00000 —y ee eee cepa NREL nT AERIRN SA et A cat Cemetery ee NETS DAEATI SAA SID SOON 2 as Se oom S mS omer GONZALEZ Gonzalez, neioe DLN TIAL , Page 7 was captured and interrogated, Subject had tried to mislead and give false information; (3) Subject would agree to work as an agent for the GOC wherever they needed hin. Subject refused, Fidel Castro sent back the ransom money, and Subjert again went back to Guanajay. = Subject was told on 11Dec77 that he would be released the next day. This was a result of a campaign b ia wife, aan | Teresita, through an ola fanily friend, Gab el”GARCIA Marqued, and his wife. Garcia is a Mexican pro-Marxist novelist and journalist with high-level influence in Cuba. His wife, Mercedes, is a close friend of Teresita and the twins. From late 1976, Teresita stayed in contact with the Garcias on behalf of Subject. In the Fall of 1977, Gabriel and Mercedes went to Cuba to ask Pidel Castro to release Subject. On the way from the airport in his car, Mercedes told Fidel she had one difficult request for him, which was to release Subject. Fidel said that was no probler, that he would do it. The Garcias waited a few days, but nothing happened, and they went back to Mexico. About 6 weeks later, in early Dec??, Gabriel Garcla went through Habana to Spain to receive a journalism award. He called Carlos Rafael Rodriguez and said he was irritated with Fidel because he had broken his wore aud not released Subjects; Later that day, Pidel went to Gabriel‘s hotel room and Gabriel told him the sane thing, Pidel appeared not to be aware that CONFIDENTIAL Beis. eS eens eae LY OE Dev le Anti el aoa iet 2 eh obaetn ees tania an nas eairinete se tines ke Schima pen nsane See an t eons » riot % £2 eon m8 eID REAL GLEN TPIS bone
14-00000 CONFIDENTIA 7 ' GONZALEZ Gonzalez, Reinol . , . Page 8 | } Subject was not already released, ANd by @d Jose no wt Han amare ay 3 BN over and told him, *Find Subject and bring hin here.® Within 6 hours, Subject was out of jail, had a passport and exit visa, and was ready to leave. ' Subject was on pass, visiting relatives in Habana that fae co str O REEDED ctr wr SeEPren + day, 11Dec77,. A "G2 officer” phoned Subject and told hin not, | to leave the house until ftirther notice. Subject was afraid | because he was just then in the mid of escape plan, with : Enri A cons0s and the gon of so Ste, who had been | studying in Cuba. Subject had sent a note to his wife for | "Pepe* (O'Mailia), now retired and living in Miaml, to arrange i Young Del Rios had been arrested 3 days before and Subject was eT afraid he had talked about the exfiltration plan. A nee ae ee | for a boat to pick them up at a beach Subject had designated. | i Subject stayed at the house until a G2 officer cane, showed his ID card, and told Subject to be at a specific spot | on the street about 10 blocks away at exactly 10:90 the follow ; ing morning, that an official of the Ministry of Interior wanted to see him. As Subject walked toward the spot the next morning, about 3 or 4 blocks away a white auto came by, stopped, ‘ eee tose patie nleteme ie we 8 ome ee and 3 or 4 men grabbed Subject and put him in the car, which went at high speed to G2 Hqs. On the way, the driver told ; Subject that Pidel Castro had ordered his release as a result oo oes / of Gabriel's intervention. At Ras, the “driver* turned out ‘CONFIDENTIAL 2 OER HEP RRCIRAINS RSID tae 0 ABERRANT Sm COONEY fy ngs Ore nS chae Dat hee ee eee ener wn Satan mate wth ise OS a aN na OT neg BARD wll, Gaels ne
14-00000 asreo “4 & Ae wore tee Sn ttt cad Se med are le te ee ttt GONZALEZ Gonzalez, rluoiNFIDENTIAL ‘ ‘Page 9 to be "Colonel Manyo" san csr Fernandez), Security Director for Prisons, and a man with whom Subject had conspired about 3 or 4 hours later and put him on the flight with Gabriel. Aliso on board was Carlos Rafael Podriquez, who was 4 Class, but came back and asked Subject about Fernando (DE) OJAS i | ‘ Pinochet, a friend of Subject from Accion Catolica and the MRP, i against Batista years before. Manyo took Subject to the plane | Peisoner Release Neantiations | i2Dec77, on the plane from Rabana to Madrid, Carlos Rafael Rodriguez told Subject he had a generally favorable ' attitude toward the release of political prisoners; he thought | the GOC was ready to discuss it and mayhe sonething could be | worked out. Subject talked to Gabriel about the prospects on 4 he wrote letters about prisoner release to: friends in Venezu- ela in COPEI. This went on throuch May, June, and into July ° the plane and later in Spain. tthen Subject got to the U.S., | i Pe atte met eee 1978. Through Gabriel Garcia in Nexico, Subject gent a message to Sergio Del Valle, Ninister of the Interior, saying Subject wanted to talk to somebody outside Cuba about prisoner release. The answer was that the GOC was ready, and Subject could come ots treenmnierneetenttonamm, ees Hs = to Cuba in July 1978, Subject refused to go back to Cuba at Prior to this tine, a "Mr. Pisher® fron the Agency had come to Miami to talk with Subject, who now sent a letter to "Sr. Pescador® via the P.0. Box of Catherine Hardy in Washing- ton. Subject tried to indicate what he was up to and hoped to get somebody down to Miami to talk with,so Subject (ould CONFIDENTIAL “AUR ahi ert ag TRACE See SS a alee 8 Fe oe Maes 0 ented le ANE eR POOR AE fo og £ A : Me Oe ee er ot oe ek | that time, and suggested Kingston. The GOC accepted. 8 CRE RGR ARAEAE ES wate tk ot ery 8 athe eae ee eh ORE OS ERI
14-00000 ° APE comers 7 Soa ie 7 Wi ef . © ca . GONZALEZ Gonzaiez, Reinol , Page 16 e (o¢ Fo where they met Col. Manvo, with Jwéto BRTANCOURT Ge, described } { explain what waa hayvpening. He got no response. if - Subject and his wife, Teresita ae to Jamaica in Jul78, y by Subject as a dangerous Cuban Intelligence agent and former : Consul in Spain, They told Subject to check in at the Sheraton and wait. In about a half-hour, they called Subject and wife to the restaurant. Cuban Embassy wives took Teresita on a tour, while Subject settled in with Manyo, Betancourt, and | Ramon DE LA CRUZ, Vice-Consul, in a suite where they talked | until 63:00 the next morning (Saturday night and Sunday morning.) | i Subject had a list of 12 peovie to discuss for initial | : 4 renee! LT tp eG A wd . | Paula GRAU - (The GOC representatives said OK, provided her son, "Monchy"Grau, who owns the A-C | Stationery Store in Miami, would deal directly with them. He did, and they released her dPiQyeo0on thereafter.) Pernando; DE\ROJAS . Co Eniriqede ‘CEPERO "HS dP Antonio COPADO { Raul NANDEZ Rivero Late DUP ‘ Leis “GARCIA Menoca i x H Artufo MARTINEZ Pagarday i aot FSYtte Santiago “ECHPMENDIA Orsini, M.D. | worse emetsasos Menendez Ee e BO 6 AO Tee f . i Julio HERNANDEZ Roe € ; eee | - and 3 other names not remembered at time of interview. ~ CONFIDENTIAL oo
14-00000 r . “eo . * . ~ . . 5 Pere 7 tm wpe eee nye + se ye re ate wore co OT > v t Pe idite aa aeaall FTE ENO 2 yh” Ante BW Reng yee ee eg het oats ae tye. tyke ‘ «ot Pay AR CD rrsets os are Co! IFy - owt BE id abe. GONZALEZ Gonzalez, Reinol The GO€ representatives made the following points: (1) They didn’t want some of the names included, but did want _ some others to be added, i (2) They wanted more prisoners included, not so few, werd | (3) They wanted a campaign to convince the U.S. .to improve relations. . ° | (4) They wanted the U.S. blockade dropped. - | (S) They wanted to stop violent action against Cuba by refugees. (6) They wanted pressure groups of refugeas going to Washington to influence the USG along the lines above. Subject said he had no control over any of those things, that he had gone on a personal, hunanitarian mission but the GOC wanted to raise the talks to a higher, rore political | level, and apparently wanted then in Habana. The GOC repre- ft sentatives asked Subject to suggest some names for a prisoner release comission. Subject said he could, but they would be people of his own ccpnvictions, i.e.with humanitarian,not political, interests. Bishop Eduarflo Boza Nasvidal, of Miami fale ft peg pps Rev. Enrique OSLE, @ Puerto Rican Jesuit,now in Miami Rev. Guillerrio ARIAS, a Cuban Jesuit, now in Miami, who teaches at BeleA Rich School. Sx ele Foerkss Eduardo GARCIA Moure, a Cuban exile in Venezuela who is med of the Confederation of LatineAmerican Workers. d { i i i | 7 i Subject put forth the nanes of G3 | Pernan NA, a former prisoner released in 19706 when his term was complete, and now living in Miani. CONFIDENTIAL ERIS AS Ra yt a Tel SEAR en ete SOR Osteg et! SWE date aA Ge Sn
14-00000 ine - “ ‘ * re ee lS alte STO aa » , ‘ Aor s f “CONFIDES Tutt : GONZALEZ Gonzaleze Reinol ; Page 12 Jesus bea CARBOCVELL, Cuban Consul at Kingston and a DCI. officer, sent a Telex to Habana about midnight and got back an approval message in a couple of hours. The G6C replreven- tatives invited Subjec’. and wife to a Sunday afternoon dinner  & party on the rooftop of the Pegasa Hotel, next to the Sheraton. The entire Cuban delegation, about 15 officials, was there, but only 3 or 4 wives. There was an orchestra with violing. Col. Manyo had gone to the market to buy spray deodorant for 6 CNY RATT eet himself and gifts for the children of Subject and bis wife.  SRLEePe Prine uparerRnEETT: p On Monday, Subject and his wife returned to Miami, Several weeks later, Subject received a nessage, theough a phone call from Gabriel Garcia and another call fron Carbonell in Kingston, that the first prisoners would come out in September 1978 (they actually care in October), and that some of the people on his list, particularly De Rojas and Echenendia,would be incDluded. Subject was invited to Bee Me ty one tee REIT TONE cose “ESE PSEE ERO TEI. go to Habana and come back with the released prisoners. He got the nazes of others invited to go the first trip fron Bernardo BENES, a banker in Miami. The GOC had sent the nanes sche A meeting of the group was called at the home | RON in Miami, + Canoc e Oaele es mee me the @ of Or [aaa was that the GOC had included the nane as 4 of /Rey, 1 ESPINOZAS from Hialeah. Subject believes Espinoza is a GOC agent who has political conmi tnents in Coba and speaks highly of Pidel Castro. Subject told Benes that, if Espinoza went, Subject would not. Subject said he would work on a humanitarian operations not on a political one.
14-00000 L oo. CONFIDENTIAL GONZALEZ Gonzalez, Reinol Page 13 Benes had already accepted Fspinoza. Subject still refused. Benes called Carbonell in Jamaica, who tried to talk Subject into going. Subject was adamant. Carbonell said he would check with Rabana, About 2 hourslater, Carbonell called ae eens temten tae in oe. Benes at Padron‘a house and said they could Grop Espinoza, _ but to be sure and send Subject. (To Subject,this is more evidence that Espinoza is a controlled agent and the GOC can Sn ectAnie ee NNR CEE Sen Lg afford to sacrifice hin if necessarv.) Betancourt mat the Oct78 flight, along with other coc officials, and the group was treated as though they were diplomats. The next day, a massase came to the guest house i that Fidel Castro wanted to see then. He came and net with i the group alone. There was nobody else from the GOC and no | apparent taping or other records kept. They talked about 2 hours op prisoner release, Then reporters cane in, inc uding George Volsky of REPLICA and the NEW YORK TIMES, Helga Silva and Bonnie Anderson of the MIAMI HERALD. {Anderson's father had | been shot in Cuba by Castro and she wanted to visit his tomb, On the third trip, whe was allowed to do so.) Xn the 2 hour meeting, Fidel and the 5 people on the H committee agreed on ground rules. In an exchange with Fidel, ~. Subject made the point that, in this situation, everybody at the table would be winners if it worked, but all would be josers if it failed. Pidel would gain in international stature, while the cornittee would gain the prisoners® release and make a start toward reunification of the Cuban _ Bs family. The others in his group were a little shocked and a cece wn CONFIDENTIAL
14-00000 es | + . Ps ULE TELL ERLE W apse” oC ae Pree, . ft rs | t i ' ' e- i ' ‘ Sey em AAD Cec SAL SKE UNAAMTT let en teetbiele ae — Het coat ae ttre OkeeNNEN SittonttNeET tha. nt cos Rat aanannmintn NOTES On = 5 . CONFIDENTIAL. . GOUZALEZ Gonzalez,-Reinol Page 14 afraid at Subject'’s frank statement, but Pidel agreed with him, When Fidel cama in, Benes took him around making introduc» tions. When they came to Subject, Pidel said, “Yes, we are old friends.“ At a coffee break, Msgr. Bosquet was the only one to hear the following exchange. Fidel told Subject that he would have been released much sooner except that many people in the GOC opposed it because Subject had burned the El Encanto Department Store on 16 April 1961, Pidel said Subject had done it as a preliminary “to the invasion that he knew was coming ‘the next day. Subject reolied that he had not done it, - and had known nothing ahout the invasion ‘any more than was known on the street at the time, The most substantive matters were about prisoner release, the Cuban community in Miami, and about anti-Castro terrorist activities. Pidel said that if there were no further such acts, it would be a sign that the USG had taken proper control measures, but if terrorism breaks out again, it would mean the USG had allowed it to happen. - Current Personal Situation Subject went from Habana to Spain in Dec77, and to Miami in Jan7@. For about 3 months, he worked as an account=- ant in a clothing factory, then he switched to the VIASA airline until Oct78. He quit to form his own small company, and becauge the job with VIASA left tee little tine free to work on prisoner exchange, Subject has tried to put together an import-export business in clothing, but has too small a CONFIDENTIAL Cogs Mae te ene ame mm meme ate eet * Guemanmm ee vere 2 + memento + nme ete sm atmtree es + memento se selon, ‘ . . ‘ oo ‘ ' ae Br iia as uF pad + Gas a Bee yout . o . a . . ‘ + ebcomestie w Sectt tes elapse ited abst wth phases extratenetgsptliersemenien tems ate 2 4 eben
14-00000 a e t t ee tea ered & . er ie age ey oy ST Si ene ohne 2 Se Sie ewe 2 Py Le fee REE OR On mE ype feu «seep hereon ay ‘a Me ~*~ : GONZALEZ Gonzaiez, teinol ‘* Page 15 H i * . 1- capital base. Currently, he is working out of his car t I selling clothing, particularly to visiting foreigners auch month for 5 vears a hi-fi store hetween Sth and 6th Avenues on S.W. 8th Street in Miani. He would chance it into a clothing store, so his wife could work with hin and try to build up their clientele of wealthy Venezuelan and other as Venezuelans. Subject is necotlating to rent for $2006 a | visitors, | { The twins are completing high achoophoth kids have behaved well, worked hard, and made outstanding grades, The boy has been accepted at Tulane University to study dentistry ' and has received a financial grant in aid. The girl is if , accepted at the International Pine Arts College in Miami to i study interior Gecorating and is applying for a grant in aid - h not yet received. Subject's family has been receiving $350 4 OS LOOTING ett nO reyettrnertn Ce tON AED teen ANeieteeneceen aoa een pot anes 24 = per month as dependency payments. Subject says there are no fate me nt major family problens. BS a oe ok Comments from Rafael Onintere and Javier Soutos @ abe i Subject was friendly with Anéres Cao and Santiago — Echemendia in prison. ‘They say he aqreed to the TY interview oo. Lo - in 1961 in return for an agreement not to kill any people in hig group. Subject necotiated on prisoner release with Pidel Castro, and is now a merber of the Cormittee of 75 (prisoner release group.) Subject has gone hack to Cuba to pick up returning prisoners, and was IDEN the Me group in Oct72. Wile. pene ee yee dnais heed ses if! * ESRB hea Se i. i ta ae CINE ees ag