i ct of. 107 Hote Released under the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 (44 USC 2 : DATE: 11-14-7017 a “| weap ‘Gay DN 87-1634 Concerning the telegram enclosed with the letter, CAREY specifically recalled that it was to be sent tc VICTOR E. PEREIR.. at either Roswell. . . “Yn fenver and that he to receive 2 property Hcy Tecail what neme was used as the signeture co this wire. C.REY stated that GIBSON asked his advice as to whether or not he should send - this raire to PEREIR. and contends that he told GIBSCH tc use his om Judgment and did not advise him one way or the other, as to whether 2 He emphatically -xpressed the cpinion that he does not believe that GIBS..:} was involved in this swindle or had any previous knowledge that PYREIR. was attempting to obtain money from krs. JOYCE. . C:REY stated thet he did not desire to furnish a signed state- ment concening the above, but orally acknowledgejin the presence of Special “gent GECRGE F. GILLZ: and the writer that the information ‘was’ true and that he would testify to the sane if called upon %o do so. with reference to "DCUG" mentioned inthe 4] Paso report of “august 15, 1951, in conmecticn with this matter CAREY informed that the only person whose first name is DUG or DOUGLS that he has ever heard menticned by PEREIR. ts DOUGL.S De BASSE or DE BUSSIE, an attorney~at~ law, with offices in Renc, Nevada, ie stated that he has heard PLREIRA mention this individual on may occasi-ns amd that the latter has stated that "DOUG is a close friend of his and his brother, GEORGE PEREIR... He stated that he believes that PEREIR. has stated that DOUG, on one or tro oce2sicns, has aceemmanted tin +- WOU Sractictt, Olt hocntay Reference is mece te Sm Diego teletype to El Paso dated September 26, 1951, setting out list of telephone calls cherged to WES SRDLZY LEE at Casa De Kanana Hotel, La Jolla, California, including one call on sugust 15, 1950, from "RENG® or "RING" to Denver, Colorado, Fhene number Florida 0083. It is ncted that this Phone is listed to DaDY Li. COREY, 747 Newport Street, Denver, Colorado, CAREY stated that. during the year, 1951, he recalls no phone calls from La Jolla, California, He stated, however, during / » 1950, JAHES PR.DIEY LEE, DOC SOLOULY and GUS KING were in La Jolla, California, opereting in dice and card bemes and during th t period, exect dates not recalled, he received ~87-15374-44 gq Doclda: 32327497 Page 12
Released under the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 (44 USC 2107 Hote). DATE: 11-14-2017 UN &7=1654 at least one telephcne call at his home telephone in Denver from GUS KING who wes calling fro: La Jolla, California, place unknom,. Ee ~ estas SRBRS Saat he, Goge. not inem.enyons sein Of Fe tniatmee TITUIENT EROEN GISice +: : ; on tne evening of September <é, Lusk, av vinica he was isvervigwed. oy Special igent GORGE F. GILLE and the reporting agent. He atated that he resides at 825 Newport Street, Uenver, Colorado, and is presently ecployed as a used car salesman for Downtown Buick Company at the used car ict at 1125 East Colfax, Denver, Colorado. He stated that he bas been personally acquainted with D. L. C:HEY since 1949 and through C:REY, decane accuainted with CURTIS RO2ERT ULGNER of the agner haccine and 141) Supply Company, 4444 York Street, Denver, Colorado, during the latt:> part of 1949. ; ' He stated that in about Merch, 1950, he bought controlling interest in the i egn2r i chine and 411i Supply Company and sold out his interest in the firm ts CURTIS R. WAGNER on December 28, 1950, He stated that in the Fall of 1950, he was introduced tc VICTOR BLIUAL PEREIn. oy D. 1. GAREY and sometice previcusly had met «D. PEREIR. who is a long tine friend of the CAneYS. GIBSON stated that D. i. CieEY and GUS KTIG had, for a mmber of recrs, beer. cic_e friends and partners in private dice and card comes in. Denver and in varicus resort areas around the country cnc that he hos teen accuzinted with Rind for appraximately two years as a result of °:i8 zssocistion with CA Fe stated thet during the Stock Sho: seaso. in Janurry, 1951, in vlan, Colorad:, he became acquainted «ith DG XL... and 3.205 ERDLSY IEE while the; were staying at the Cosnopolitan “evel in Denver, He stated that as he recalls, he was introduced to then by VICTCH PERSTIn.. veces Aan een ee RT | ARERR NE REE RR Nee msn —omime mt ett ebar + pene Sea seminerytiet wet sae nen -Commection-with his sogceietion with the above named. 0. inciviccals, cGISSG: related that he hes, ening “the last year, on several ocezsicrs participated in private dice and ecard games with CiRZY end has “bservec that GUS CNG is arvarently the "front man" and "steerer" to get susinessmen into the games and that he, GIBSON, has personally acted inthis capacity on several occasions. He stated that PEREL-., vnilein Lenver, was present at a number of games in KING’s suite et the Cosmepolitan Hotel, and apparently is a good friend of CAREY and KING. GIZSO:i stated that be is not well accuainted with J.MES BRADLEY Lat end his not seen hir since January, 1951. -ll- 87-15374-44 .m Doclda: 32327497 Page 13
Released under the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 (44 USC 2107 Hote). DATE: 11-14-2017 C . ~ se —_ { « Jeo Dz 87-1634 GI5SCN specifie2lly denied that he had ever discussed with : vinta the letter's plans to cefraud Mrs. JCYCZ and clairs thst he . hed no imewledze that LES and rIniIMa cere operating such a swirde. Fe 2cuitted, however, thet sonetice in April, 1951, he received a long cistance telephone c2ll fren FEtETRa at which tire the letter ciscussed with hin the sale of certain fishing reels on whieh FIESTA claimed te have a patent. Ee stcted that he was in Denver at the tine he received this call “but does not imcw where PIPEIa was located 2t the tice he pleced tha call. He cenied that there was any discussion el the swindle at that tice. Ee stated that coring the latter part cf April, 1991, excct cate wnrecalled, he received a especial delivery letter fron VID” ~. Prains which wes addressed to him at his hese in Denver, Colercco, ' Ee stated that he does rot recall the return edcress on this letter mor the postmark nor does ha recall thet the letter nenticnad exothing abet PINE. having plans to nervy a wealthy women. Ye steted that he recills that there was a telesran enclosed in the letter ac¢ressed © P=. in care cf screcne else but he claizs not to recall the mime cf this person nor the address shown cn the telerra.. Ee clztns ttt to the best cf his recollection, it was addressed Tucscea er Phoenix, aricci, Ne clains that he ces net recall any telegran addre-red to Hesreil, New Mexico, Fe stated that the letter recvested him to send the telecran anid that there xtre three or fcur cne dollar bills enclosed wo rey the chsrgese ; GISSON stated specifically that the telegrar nenticned above ras either written er handrrinted in pencil, that it was addressed to : will CR E. Piosina amt thot it specifically menticned that FST ° bac received a divorce in Denver and as a part of the divorce settle- nert ras to receive a largs acount of money, GIBSON elained not to reccli the exact amount of money nmeritioned and claized to recell no . other specific details concerming the messaze, Ke stated that he does Feccll that the message was signed, "CURTIS". GIBSON stated th>t on the morning that he received this letter at his residence, he read it and also read the telegram and theresfter on the sane cay, while he was driving in an autccobile with D. 2. CARZY, he sowed the letter and the telecraa to CrREY; that CAREY read tiv lett:r and telegram, and handed them back to hin, making no comcnt as to whether cr not GIESC% should send the message as requested Sy F7[Eiti, OIBSCN stated he recalls that CAXEY tald him to *Just forget . you s.cwed the letter to ne". Hs stated that after exhiditing the letter seen eonmny to C-REY he tore the letter up and threw it out of the autcmobLle rn a and placed the telegran in his pocket. GIBSON stated that on that sane day or the following day, at about 11 2.1. he drove to the eatgrn Union Office at 17th and Chanpe Ap . BRL 537d. Ad om PL | t Fem eey Doclda: 32327497 Page 14
Released_under the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 (44 USC 2107 Hote). DATE: 11-14-2017 . . a D:: 67~1E32 Streets in Denver, and when he cculd not find a parking place, he handed the telegraa rith three one dcllar bills to a cen who was leaning . against 2 fering neter directly in front of the BRestera thicn Cffice ac’ recuzsted hin to send the tessage. He claims that he coes not locv thts sents none and hes rever seen hin since that tise ani coes not koow whether cr not the man actually sent the messzge, althoush he asses that he diz so. “ , SIZSTN ceclined to furnish any more specific infcrnation, stoting thet the above account of the incident is all that he can renecber and ceclined to furnish a signed statenent. Information ecrcerning this telegrat es furnished by CFEZ and CISC was suimitted to the 51 Paso Cffice by teletype cated Sertecter 27, 1551. ; Dy teletype dated Septe=ber 29, 1951, the El Faso Cffice stated — that the United States .ttorrey there does not ccnterslate presecutive action araicst SIZSCi mless the latter proves refrectcry in testily- ing in tiis case. It was requested that GISSON be reinterviewed in an effort to obtain a detailed sirned staterent from his and that he be specifically cnuesticz.ed es to rhere tho ketterfren PEREIRA was sailed ami exsct cate of receipt of sate ty hing It was further recuested tet GISSoN be re- intervicved ecrcerning alleged dostructicn of the letter and to attecpt to detertire whether ha possibly still has the letter in kis possession, Tris teletype also requested that the name of indivicuals competent testify thzt mo divorce action ras pending in Denver for Fann in -pril, 151, be furrished to El Paso. In acccrdarnce with the above request, GISSCN wes reinterviewed Cctover 1, 1%1, ty Special ‘gent KEMIETH kK. R.UP:.CH and the report- ing agent. <.t that tine he reiterated the account previcusly furnished ” by Siz cor.cerming the telegron znd reiterated his previcus contention that the letter fren PI-EIX. recuesting that he seng the telecra= had “ beer. testroyed. He contended that ho could rot recall the exact date. he rec2ived the letter fron PIRZIR. nor could he recall from rhat . point FiriIv. hed sailed the letter. He stated that he had no recollec~ tion ef tha posteark or return address. He statod that be cid not desire to cive a siged statecent but was ailling to testify in this case and if he did testify, his testimony world be the sane as he had furnished orally to Agents on September 26, 1951, a - | | 87-15374-44 om Doclda: 32327497 Page 15