4 wee vie L% Bis! it says "to headquarters, RI"... Do you know what the RI would 2 | have stood for? d 3 . Mrs. Scaletti. That is. the main file room. That is a en 4 preprinted form. | 5 | Mr. Goldsmith. In the middle of the page where it 6 indicates other identification it is written in -- ? i - Mrs. Scaletti. Here or this part? > | 8 : Mr. Goldsmith. Here. It indicates other identification. iH . 9 It is written in "AG". Do you know what AG would stand for? 10 Mrs. Scaletti. No. ‘There is a whole pamphlet either on ni |. the back of this or regulations which tells you how to fill 12 out all these. It is very complicated. “They assign certain -& es 13 |. symbols that mean certain things. If you don't remember you | hope somebody else does. “4S | Mr. Goldsmith. Does your handwriting appear anywhere on 16) this .page? i "|. Mrs. Scaletti. My handwriting does not appear on 788. | Mr.. Goldsmith. Could you now read Commission Exhibit 19 197? » | Mrs. Scaletti. I read this document. I. have looked at a1 | emis document. fan a 33 Mr. Goldsmith .~ Would the information ‘Gontained in that - \ "3 | document normally have led to the opening of the 201 file? | | i a | Mrs. Scaletti. I cannot tell. This was not my responsi-: i . ; as i bility. I wouldn't have found it necessary~because I had aa r . i! ‘ HW 50955 DocId:32277223 Page 61 5 ty 2 ky A:
dajidi XA LZ ; a ce bad “Sy Se ie eg ile - dwd YEU a 39 nothing to do with US citizens. Mr. Goldsmith. I understand that. I am not suggesting at all that that document with the information contained in it da was your responsibility. I am asking now, based on your aes experience of over 25 years with the Agency, would the informa- a ae eS tion contained in that file normally as a matter of routine ~» ‘operating procedure have led to the opening of the 201 file? $j sco. Mrs, Scaletti. I would say no. It might have been > 9 | indexed. | 10 Mr. Goldsmith. Why would you say no? | Mrs. Scaletti. Because there is hardly anything here. Mr. Goldsmith. It indicates that someone is defecting and is oging to offer miliary or has offered military informa~ tion. to the Soviets. t Mrs. Scaletti. Yes. But you can retrieve it with an ! 16 index card. Why open a folder?. You open a file if you are | going to gether material’ on it. Now, this would be the basis © ‘for opening a 201 file. If you did a name trace in central registry and you found 10 or 15 other documents on this same | man. Then you would open the 201 with this document and put | copies of the other document in there and there you: would. have a folder on this man . If there was nothing, just by itself | | oo: "4 with. no other reason, if you were interested in US citizens | who were going to renounce their US citizenship the most I ES. would do would be to index it. 3 ra) 001768 say ty Syme et a i HW 50955 Docld: 32277223 Page 62 T os s aan oe 7 sap aug k saad Bess is si aie
4, j Wh u Ay A 60 x. Goldsmith. If I were to go to the Agency today and a> ask them how many documents they had, if any, on Oswald, when | | ‘this. particular cable came in, would they have that kind of a oO 4 | information?» 5 , | Mrs. Scaletti. No, I don't think so because the documents - 6 | they would have by date but they would not know what date they | ? might have received it. .Now, I asm sure they received a lot 4 8 on Oswald dated way back but they don't necessarily date time | Hf 9. | stamp them in.<:Even:one of those name trace forms would not | te | necessarity -- I mean that is what they would tell you from | in | registry if that is what came in. I don't see what they could | 12 | te1t you wnat they had available. a | | - Everything is now on the computer. You would have to ask, { | a computer expert in registry. I think you would be barking up! | ig | the wrong tree. oO — | | Mr. Goldsmith. If someone were working as an agent, asset -— cememeen i Sed a a person were a casual informant of a chief of station or a case i 4 16 WW por source at the CIA would there be any indication to that 4f% 1a | effect in the person's 201 file? a0 Mrs. Scaletti. ‘You mean if he were an agent of ours?. : » | Mr: .Goldsmith. An agent, source, asset? © 2 Mrs. Scaletti. Yes. | | fh nat 49 Mr. Goldsmith. Would that always be indicated? _ | | Mrs. Scaletti. The only time it may not be the case, if | officer overseas but that would not be a real agent relationship. i e H . H i i . i H ' | — Poe @PrAaarr | MW 50955 Docld:32277223 Page 63 3 & § a g da gh py 4
HW 450955 a da das Bocld: 3 5 sh oe ee : § if a a i 4 i A, 4 32277223 Page 64 § gf fo oak YP da 7a P 34 wer 4 A5 4 8 eh Mr. Goldsmith. As a matter of normal procedure a 201 file would indicate that a person was an agent, an asset or ‘source? | Mrs, Scaletti. You are not supposed to use anybody as an agent. without getting clearance which requires form after form and they all go into a folder. Mr. Goldsmith. That goes to the Security office? ‘Mrs. Scaletti. No, it goes into the 201 file. You mean what we call an agent or what the press calls an agent? Mr. Goldsmith. I think the press would refer to a case officer as an agent. I do not use chat terminology. Mrs. Scaletti. I am responding the way you -- field. “Mrs, Scaletti. His 201 file has copies of all those documents. You have to request a 201. You have to get your clearance. You have to do your name traces. There we a lot of things involved. Copies of all that go into thé-201. 7 Mr. Goldsmith. The file, fore example, would have an . indication that operational approval had been granted? Mrs. Scaletti. Or requested and denied. Mr. Goldsmith. In normal cases then the 201 file if the person was an agent would indicate that? Mrs. Scaletti. Yes. Fa Mr. Goldsmith. Would there necessarily be a 201 file on | aay MrwGoldsmith. The case officer gets an agent out in the 00177 4 i i ; ! i 1 i i | { i i i 1 ? ! ! i t Q ‘
4 62 a person who was an agent? 2 { Mrs. Scaletti. I would say I have nev er known anybody who was an agent who did not have a 201 file. I will put it fa that way. ds Mr. Goldsmith. Would the 201 file contain information | H . 6 | pertaining to the individual's operational activity? RT cone eae ant ace ett etme een Same mee = me ee ak ae cere cee et tne en 7 \ ‘Mrs. Scaletti. Not necessarily. | Mr. Goldsmith. Where would that information be contained: 9 Mrs. Scaletti. In the project... 6. 10 1 Mr. Goldsmith. In the project file? ni} Mrs. Scaletti. Yes. 12 ir Mr. Goldsmith. If you wanted to find out all the project eB 13 : that a particular individual had been involved in, assuming you| . y wed 14 | had a need to know, you are the Director. | -1§ i Mrs. Scaletti. If I were the Director you would turn that 1$ place over, you. would have: thousands and thousands-of man’ year. 17 | Mr. Goldsmith. ~ You could: not, for’ example, just get out | 13 of the file of that individual a list of all his projects? | el Mrs. Scaletti. No. Some people are very careful and | 2 they keep all this in a file. Some people don't. All the | | budgeting and reporting on activities comes in by project, not 7 - a 23 : by man. | | : . i 3) Now, you could possibly de research by getting the first ! 74 | time he requested and trysto get a cryptonum. Then you can : a . | 25 track this, track that but I tell you -=— | “ d | | | 001771 TOAD OPAaET | HW 50955 Docld:32277223 Page 65 i Ad 1 ad ra, FE a x |