yop ; S640) Date: 02/13/01 Page: 1 JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM IDENTIFICATION FORM AGENCY INFORMATION Released under the John F. ennedy Assassination Records Ollection Act of 1992 ([{44 USc¢c AGENCY : CIA Pid? Note). Case#:NW 53216 RECORD NUMBER : 104-10534-10198 pate: Os isa Z01 RECORD SERIES : JFK AGENCY FILE NUMBER : NOSENKO RECORDS DOCUMENT INFORMATION ORIGINATOR : CIA ~ FROM + TO : oe TITLE : UNTITLED AND UNSIGNED DRAFT MEMORANDUM: IT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE UNDERSIGNED TO ATTEND EVERY SESSION CONDUCTED BY THE DOCTOR DATE : 05/24/65 PAGES : 16 . SUBJECTS : NOSENKO NBR DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT CLASSIFICATION : RESTRICTIONS CURRENT STATUS DATE OF LAST REVIEW ' OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS : JFK-M-24:F55 2001.02.09.14:35:16:470084: NOT BELIEVED RELEVANT (NBR) HW 53216 DoclId:32404664 Page 1
HW 53216 ‘eo “SEBREL_ 2 May 1965 et 1. it was tho :ntenti n ef the undersigned to attend every session conducted by the dector in hope to ga:n something new and useful for our future interrogations, _ During these sessions, I managed only ty refresh ny memory of ehings BeEnto had previously aaid. Noth.ng new er significant developed during these sessions except for a few minor facts which have no great value. It sheuld be rentioned that many ef the facts that NCSENKG stated abeut his past life were rere mixed up than the story | he had ' previsusly related. 2. It is not the -ntent ef th.s paper te criticize the work which the _ Gector has done because the sessions have alreadly taken place ana the werk is completed, My main objection te this type of interrogation is that the doctor tried te maintain a neutral altitude and never my epinien that challanged any of NOSENKO's statements, It is/the doctor made a mistake in the lust session when he teld NUSENKC "You are NCSENKO." Thia leads NCGSENKO te believe we accepted his life stery and family backgreund,and it would be very hard te question him agahn en this subject. It is my opini::n that we did not have eneugh ‘nfermation to make a sefinite . ¢ -neclusi:n that he is NOSENKO. What NOSENKO told us could bo obtained or learned by another persen very well brtoftlon these matiers. Mes ef the information that MOSENKO gave te us about his parents is stillnst Convince: ng te make conclusions . Mast of the questi:ns during the recent sessicns were of a leading nature and NUSENKO's answerttgs appeared te be of the type that the dector wanted, "SECRET Date hingousible to 5 Determine DoclId: 32404864 Page 2? aareetdegaanennne enn ectak pnt mermene
#4 In ny opinisn, NOSENKC did not say more about his father,and in many instance logs, than the newspaper Pravda said in 1956. 3. In the doctor's opinion, NOSENKC mentioned te us quite a few family NY friends who were “Bround the NOSENKO family and at the first look it is \ ¢ nvincing thet | is NCSENKO. In wy opinion, NCSNEKO gave te us asseciated — only nanes whe vogieally would be wascxiwted with NCSENKO er NCSENKO's \ revealing eather, and nethin e BRR” about their activities or private iivese aij * Significantly, 1 est ef the information NOSENKO has given us is about = oeeple whe are a ‘either dead | or ne longer in autherity, For example, MALYSHEY, (forer put chairman of the Council of Ministers, died); VAKHRUSHEV, (aet 3 \8 BURCH, (ne longer a aiety KABULOV, (shot) 0 yl R LA Kulact fame we BULGANIN, (no: aa KUZNETSOV, ve. (shot); SHCHERBAKOV, ~ va \ oom. ng abeut then ° Hor example, | he mentioned SHVERNIK whe Liveson LE . wicha Me a. .§ the Serifinevsiaga Stree\s, a fect known te everyone, or/family friendship ee with KUSYGIN . We inh much mere about KOSYGIN from PENKOVSKIY . already Lately he mentioned valtshal ZHUKOV's da ghter whe he knew we/have a good picture of pina YHIUKOVA trem one ef sur empleyees as well as a good description of EUKCV spar tient , 5, The only c-nclusion we can core to fevn the foregoing is that NOSNEKO has been alloved te sey little or nothing about the lives ef important Soviet efficialsx, «this nan is net NOSENKO and ail he knows is the —SEkeE-——_— HW 53216 DoclId:32404864 Page 3
is the legend which has been previded him or or answers’ which’ he “could: figure 6, Withx regard te his sether, he did not mention anything of impertance te us, He did net mention any of his mether's friends ameng Seviet VIPB, and tried te avesd er change the subject when this matter was bewught up. 7.e I am not convinced that NOSENKO lived on Serimevicha and crenevskiy”*~ streets because he gave se little infermation about these areas that “4t is impessi:le te Judge if he actually lived there. Although he gave: correct infornatien about a few ViPs whe lived in housesin that? es area, ether details are lacking which weuld confirm his residence theres 8. NCSENKO's latest information on his educaticnal background is se ae mixed up and be made so many mistakes regarding Seviet realities thet it is impessible te believe Niax any part of his educatien. 9. I don't believe any part of NOSENKO's Story about his mil. tary services "The Naval Preparatory. School in Baku ans Leningrad.” According to Soviet regulation ; a person was usually called in the arny when he is 19 (those ; . called be called at age 186 . who have. graduated from high scheol er otherwise have a higher education, - NCSENKO soccrx was bern on wnax 30 Octeber 1927 , then he would be 18 years —_ old 0 on 30, October 1945. He could be calied inte the arny at this time, isos, the fall. of, 1955, although he should have been 18 by September of that years i t ~ oréduarily; he! Would be called te service in “1046. Ini nay epinion, ‘varying NCSENKO ‘said wut his military packgreund in any kind of service scheel | 7 prier te the eal of 1945 is a lies NCSENKO, then did net attend the Higher : Naval Schools in \eningraa and Baku because he vas too young te attend thes e- HW 53216 DoclId:32404864 Page 4
: 2? . . 2 torte, @ ; ' 4 \ . =. schools and the schcels only accepted students ihe were ready fer regular - fer acceptance in these schools was oe military service, and the lewest 2g0/soumtcoooe 18 yearse Then we still have unanswered questiens en where, when, ~ and how Nose KO fintsahed high | fy schcols KCSENKO's story that he took. Beme courses: a Mescow Evening ne Gornyy Sch:.ol Attached to fhockty Institute and ‘his attencendg’ “at the Loningred | \. Shi pbuild. ng Technicum , I consider! as: a complete roy anise 2 it does’ a logical ise © oN fit any/,a% cern ef Seviet realitye . i, wo, On| vogt 10, It is ny belief that NCSENZO ee never was ee service and definitely did not taye/ais tary eath the way | ho eseNibed it, 1.0.0, that he sect tesk the sin, at the age of 15 er 16 iy Bal. Vite be not conduct ar, ‘ int necessary to mu any ia rcech 2 since an ew L 'to. . ‘ iy . : ‘ he 2 S . the mllitary eath,. If ws Polieve that HSB RKO as | sandtied te a —— iN ; however, 7\ ~ NN as education 4 he would ‘not be add « ted te the school beduyse of his, 8° § and” because he could not tee | vhe oath ut] Octeber 1925 NO Ny ll. During the last interrogation , ’ ‘the: re was some confustch on NOSENKO'S part abeut his military ranks. And now wa have three different stories about an » : 1 i ‘ his ranks. Jr. Lt. a Tune 1947 ( wo aan | “adds. . \" . pet us Lt. ~ Spreng ef 1951 i alse has stated that he» was’ * promoted te Lt. in 1280rast interview, he stated that he was proneted te Sr Lt in April ~=Sr.e Lt — "end ef 53 or. eee May 1953. HW 53216 Docld:32404664 Page 5
Capt — July 1956 ! «@ x Majer —— Aug/Sept 1959 He now states that he never was a major. Lt Col-Nov 1963 Ne said his, ; Prowtion had te be ayprevad by the Central Committee because of his youth, These stories about his military ranks sheuld not be taken sheuld be serieusly and/censidered as a complete lice scve POINTS FROM THE DCCTCRts LUTERV: EW 1, NCSENKCYHX stated (7 May 1965) that he teok the cath in Baku in 1943 when he was 15 years ela, but he did not rexenber how he enrelled in the B aku school. In the same reeting, he stated that while he was in the Baku scheol he was komandir etdeleniya . Also in the same interview he stated that he vas in the Meskovskiy Flctskly Bkipaah. It should be said thet the. Moskevskiy Fietskiy Bkipazh was only fer naval persennel whe were culled ‘$n the regular naval service. All ef this eheuld be consideredas a lie. 2, On 10 May 1965, NCSENKC stated that scmewhere he was arrested vhen he was 16 years cld and was 2px pur under hone arrests If this imbkoank . incigent really tock place, it is mor @ likely that papa helped him te get eut of the arrest or it is possible to think that after this arrest for seme crime unknewn to us he was put in jail ana then in a concentration er laber camp. This is why NCSENKO tells us a stery that in 1944,,in the fall, ha was working for two or three months in the forest, where he got sick and cunditiers were very bade As NCSENKO deseribed it, the e.nditis s were more kkix like a labor camp than a regular uilitary unit. ~~ SECRET-——— HW 53216 DoclId:32404864 Page 6
3. Accerd.ng to NOSENKC's latest story,- ho voluntarily went te the naval preparatory school ef Frunze in 1944 but he didn't start any studies until November er Decenber 1944 because the whele schoel vas working in the ferest.. Then in February or March 1945, the shooting, accident teck place and he spent some time in the hespital and in May he enrolled in a shipbuilding techicum, NOSENKO tried te nake us believe that while ba was in the naval preparatery school he studied . 10th grade subjeats, but as we can see, in actual, fact, he did not study ‘anything because he had no time. Laterm he stated that xian he enrelled “in the shipbuilding technicum in May nthe next nenth he guuduated . | and received his certificate as if he graduated from a high schsol, . and got the right to ge te a higner institution. Only a crazy persen could believe this stery. 4e During all the interrogutions, we never got a clear picture internal - how he received his first/passpert in Leningrad and hew he received his first military ticket. If he really wis demebliged and put in the mserve it should take place semewhero later than October 1945 when he became 18 years olde Definitely there will be ne talk about any military ticket before’ You reach 18 years cld. And more likely at that time he sheild have been 19 years 53a to have been called inte the service er pested te the reserve, It Bhould be noted here if NCSKENO really was in the naval — preparatory sched in 1944, and 1945 and received hia military ticket in 1945 then he d: finitely should be two years older than he claizs. HW 53216 DocId:32404864 Page 7