157-10041-10053 Date:09/30/93 Page:1 JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM IDENTIFICATION FORM AGENCY INFORMATION AGENCY : SSCIA RECORD NUMBER : 157-10011-10053 RECORDS SERIES : AGENCY FILE NUMBER : ORIGINATOR : SSCIA FROM : TO : TITLE : TRANSCRIPT .OF HEARING DATE : 07/11/75 PAGES : 101 SUBJECTS : _ TRANSCRIPT OF HEARING; WITNESS, HARVEY, WILLIAM K. EXHIBITS: MEMORANDUM FOR THE SPECIAL GROUP: LANSDALE, BRIG. [R] OPERATION MONGOOSE [R] EXHIBIT: MCCONE'S MEMORANDUM OF APRIL 26, 1962 RE CUBA [R] DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT CLASSIFICATION : T | RESTRICTIONS : REFERRED CURRENT STATUS : P DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 09/29/93 OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS : SSCI Box 246, Folder 1 (R-486) [R] - ITEM IS RESTRICTED HW 50955 DBocld: 322703821 Page 1
HY Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 —_ ~~, ES ce) ee) WARD & PAUL. 0955 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 10° 11 12 13 17 18 19 20 21 22 25 24 20 Boclda: 322703821 Page 2 TOP SECRET 15 Mr. Schwarz. Reflecting a minute of the meeting on;May 3rd, Present: General Taylor, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Johnson; Mr. Giilpatric,; General Decker, General Lansdale and General Craig; Mr. McCone, and Mr. Harvey. Here I would like to read into the record the entirety of paragraph 2, which is: "Mr. Harvey gave a rundown on progress to date, with agent teams and in the general field of intelligence, including the Opa~locka interrogation center and the clandestine interrogation center. He outlined various difficulties encountered and said the three agent teams had been infiltrated and the five W/T sets are in place. Approximately 72 actual or potential reporting sources are also’in:place. A significant development is that Major Duque has refused to allow agents responsive to him to be dispatched on purely intelligence-gathering missions. (This sort of attitude had been forecast earlier as a possibility, but it now assumes particular importance in view of Duque's stature.)”" . All right. Now, having marked these’ three exhibits, .Mr..Harvey,. they surround your visit to Miami when you passed the poisoned pills to Roselli for assassination purposes. Now you have testified that when you were in Miami you did a lot of other things. Could you first state what they are? Mr. Harvey. weil, basically, this was one of a number of CIA HAS NO OBJECTION TO DECLASSIFICATION AND/OR TOP SECRET BEES oF this DocuMENy AS SANITIZED pe 2 </,/q4
Phone (Area 202) 544-6000 10 ame 12 13 WARD & PAUL 14 15 16 1? 18 19 20 el Re 20 24 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 £0 HY 50955 Boctld: 322703871 Page 3 TOP SECRET 28 operations, and that I had been previously been Chief ot -, Station in-Berlin \for a number of years. The only time the 007 comment was ever made to my knowledge was at a Special Group (Augmented) meeting, and the sort of facetious comment by the then-Attorney General, why can't you -- and this was a part of his sort of favorite author was Ian Fleming, and so on -~ why can't you gentlemen get things cooking the way 007 does? That's the only time I ever recall that being made, or tha type of reference being made. | As far as this’ business of the firearms is concerned, the only incident that ever happened on that is the one that I mentioned a wmoment ago, gentlemen. There was one occasion whe as I recall I was at lunch and was called from the Director's Office and told to go to the White House because of a meeting. I did happen to be armed at the time, and it occurred to me as I want in downstairs at tha White House that it was most inappropriate for anybody except the Secret Service officer to go up to the White House offices armed, so I checked the sidear that I had with the Secret Service officer at the desk, and I picked it up on the way out. ‘That:.is> the only incident, as far as I know, not only as far as I know, it is the only incident that ever happened which even remotely resembles the question you raised. Senator Hart of Michigan. Are you desqpibing tye isits DECLASSIFICATION AND/OR RELEASE OF THIS DOCUMENT TOP SECRET = Sssumzn ww) jap
Phone (Area 2028 44-6000 WARD & PAUL 410 First Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 HW 50955 io — he a) i) LO ili le 13 14 LS 16 1? 18 TS 19 20 21 ne £95 24 29 TOP SECRET 56 documents we discussed previously. After you called Frank Hand about the 13 Aucust memo frém® Lansdale, did you talk to anyone else about the part that you desired excised from that memo? Mr. Harvey. Yes;,tI probably mentioned the particular memo and the excised parts to several people, Mr. Smothers, and starting with the Director, I am not sure I mentioned that to him personally or not. Mr. Smothers. The Director, you mean Mr. McCone? Mr. Harvey. Yes. If I did not, then I am rather sure that I briefed Walter Elder to brief the Director on this. I may aiso have discussed it with the Director personally. The memorandum that you have in the record was written to Helms. I believe that was«in.part confirmatory of ane oral conversation I had with him. I probably would have mentioned it, or possibly may have mentioned it to two other individuals who very possibly could have seen the memorandum before I did. One would have been Sam Halpern and the other | who is my Deputy. would have been But now on this last answer, Mr. Smothers, I'mujust telling you it would have been logical had I done so. I do not have any firm recollection. | Mn. Smothers. Do you recall if you discussed it with any of the other addressees? Mr. Harvey. No, I do not believe that I did, although TOP SECRET Boclda: 3227036821 Page 4
\ ( , : SRSA GOTT as Leer 26 April 1962 ) MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD SUBJECT: CUBA 1, General Lansdale reported on the activities as per the attached report. MecCone ‘expressed disaatisfaction with progress; stated nothing had been accomplished in putting Cubans in the Army for training and that no actions had been taken on matters decided two weeks ago. (In other words, I was very disagreeable.) McCone finally recommended more action; acceptance of attribution if _ necessary; establishment of training facilities; training of guerrillas and a more dynamic effort in the infiltration of both agente and | guerrillas. a ACTION: . A meeting should be arranged between McCone, Lansdale, end Harvey, immediately upon Harvey's return, x - Bidet a sttetee mm ene we oes 2. The Attorney General requested copies of the Daily Reports on the Opa Laks interrogation.” General Taylor instructed Lansdale to prepare a summary of the reports, paying particular attention to . _ specific items of information on complaints which were recurring in successive interviews. . ; oo, 3, General Taylor requested that Mz. Harvey attend the next | \ meeting and report on agent activites, . oo a, 4, General Taylor. suggested that MeCone review the memorandum summarizing “Communist Indoctrination of Latin America" with the ~ President at the earliest opportunity, | : oe oe oe 5 NPIC made @ most interesting presentation of tha last EORONA Might. Ta ON: ‘MeCone agreed to arrange briefing for the President — at the earliest convenient time; also briefing for Macmillan when he js hers, at a convenient time. JUL £2 1975. JOHN A. MeCONE Director G [ A CIA HAS NO OBJECTION TO NO DISTRIBUTION . ber . DECLASSIFICATION AND/OR _. RELEASE OF THIS DOCUMENT : ASSANITIZED /2 Van Ff eee’) JAM/ji