-_ - “ct. er oe DISPATCH . “CLASSIFICATION -_-SEGRETTRYBAT MARKED FOR INDEXING Fp NO INDEXING REQUIRED ONLY QUALIFIED DESK t PROCESSING ACTION S| CAN JUDGE INDEXING a ere . pees ae Attagted is a contact report on cuatznsier’ 8 Sony meeting with “0 PETUNIA: a Ce Seo Sf se —.: Paul K. CHALEMSKY ~~ 7 Sree Attachment: H/o “Contact Report ao Distribution: . 3 - C/EUR, w/att DISPATCH SYMBOL AND NUMBER “> OFPA~90301°° {ROSS REFERENCE TO oo . 7 ll July 1969 _ ~/ HOS FILE NUMBER 200-6~387/3 ‘CLASSIFICATION
Vee . , @ ” a . ‘ ad . PARTICIPANTS CONTACT “sport; PLACE & TIME Metro Dupleix; NSXL MEETING l. Contact established metro station ang Bot his part had bean busy on the 3rd and to meet CHALEMSKY, in finding anyone, “no Had prepare finally calle 2, Lerry CoN: ‘vesisters and ca ia Pantin [Paris arrest of sudls Passing thr Suburb -~ this ters for pos in Operation; iag the contributions ' having got $100 from Sartre, s 0 frs from Batherine in the States and is now negotia rent as a form of support, s s rent ar : Cox himself éssienment Somewhere in Africa voluntary service Orgakization to remain in Pe “@mong deserters and draft Work terms,.but Cox sai Sponsors know; he didn! their heads to the P in Paris on salary ($240, month) s Sent them. Of his $240, he contsa There are 20 de PETUNIA described them ‘minded deserters work i to Canada, then leave, aren't capable of - anecdotes of life him that 1000 men So Rn Frence to in a f mocning") and asking Mao to On &@ starvation dfet France), then we people, and thre From Cox, PETUN was able to fin nm a énd saved eve nt off and bough aa Stens to go back 2 : ‘roil him, and went to Canada, PETUNIA got the ae impression that this was under false documentation (which can be bought for $300.). | ae (No names or hints of where one cén get this cocumentation,) . : . - Evaryone céspleys che usual Paranoia on the Subject of CIA, Larry and others are positive that there is of each other and 24 hours after air . play sames tryi a deserter has arr Cox has a Swis udying educational PSyCholog Was about to set off a vevokhur eS, and Cox talked about going in a factory end ge 5 y iy t involved induction 3 times, he expec Cand wondered whether'thay! on within the army), . écters and resisters, tr in working with Gls in Germany, 12Ve Stayed at the house in Pantia ON Oe nn eee wee spe HW 53199 Docld:32349752 Page 3 PETUNIA; CHALEMSyY < § « Cafe Batavia, 1730, 9 Suly » &ventho PE of the recos ught it better to d notes on his con d Susan George and Cox runs a hang~ou Hehe circuit to Yaise mone ting with Resist t (No name Monthly Review. from the States, first came to Paris to take ‘with one of.-the church tls and Proposed to h resisters Xthe letter d he didn't hide what he € expect them t olitical implicat aS a bunch of Those who remain behin much. ' From one gi among the deserters; nh training at the moment ("math clas send sone ¢ ty penny he co t a monkey ($40); nto the Arny TA learned that Philip Wagner is in d someone to danl Ne described his ying to educata ace 8 July 14453 ¢ Detavia, 1445-1730 , KEVPUNC HED ao Standing on the wrong side of tha . plirases wrong. Explained that he. Stay where he was than to leave i tacts (nad had inittal difficulty get reintroduced into the circle), TUNIA was tion : 2 ~ ~ le s in tin for deserters, SDS activists, . ough ParisP address is 3, r, Gabrielle Jasserand ddress figured in an UNDERBID report on the ession of drugs], know how long this is 1200 frs/mo [$240.]. Cox Spends a lot of 1 y to pay for the house ~~ mentioned . Beauvoir (no figure mentioned) and Cox also gets support from Resist Oo get them to pick.up the monthly S mentioned in this centext.) Also gets some | y Most of it in the form of books and esumably, sales -- if possible), | Mike est year, Cox said (no date) and said he 2 French lessons prior to identified. international age, he Seeyied that he wanted that he be allow to work here. © 0 ws of proposal described this in social - planned to do and in fatt let his O approve it). The éroup in effect turned fons of Cox! work, and agreed to let him stay they asked for monthly reports, which he has not butes $40 to the food budget of the house, serters/resisters who live in the house, and _ apolitical bums. Most of tha geod, politically Save money to buy false documentation and Passage . : c aren't interested in politics and a, 8S out. with this group he got various. “ One sends letters to Mao Tse~tung informing laska and others in France who are preparing | 8 from 9=10 this the invasion; another went (to buy his w another always pulls a knife on not allowed to play his game. o nada “= he saved enough, or After 6 mos of Langu ¢ +8 Sponsors ” ~ ivisions to help uld find Le Li a2 agent in the house 0 trip each other uD. ia France, the Embassy 3 they are very suspicious They claim that within knows everything about eancee who plans to Geneve with an t on in this field, there when she finis Li Organizing within ts legal action to be would also get him join him soon in Paris; /i Professor there who Cox They both want to £0 to the hs in Geneva, He wants to the movement, Since he has : taken ggainst him when he for aiding and abetting OY Work here as dealing with them and get them involved in the movem encouraging them to desert, A few GI's on R&R : i she aa £ i i ma 4 ent, i
7 os '. Deseribed life & times in Paris as tough, but getting a little better now. Most of the deserters want to leave and none of those here are here _ for political reasons. Cox made a trip to Sweden last winter (by microbus), and '| Het the ADC there, . Said nobody likes Sweden (lousy weather, no work, lousy “people eventho they get a warm reception). os “S. 1 2, Bg DUBINSKY; 07 ee a Lod Former math prof at Tulane (got fired for taking part in sone < pkotest -- on the racial issue?), Was in Warsaw earlier this summer for an _. international mathematician's conference, came to Paris and plans to go to Se . Cambridge and then to Canada where he has a job offer (in Moatreal® 7 While Fry 2a. _- dn Warsaw, met a Polish woman (age 32, Andreajea Be; married, three children; | “4 ' . former funcationary of the PZPR but forced out because of Jewish origins), and he is considering marrying her. She has asked him to come back to Warsaw and core oo Live, Ee mentioned a strong possibility that he would be invited to teach or i: @@ research at the Univ of Warsaw (apparently something of a center for higher - math), and said for personal and professional reasons he'd love to go -= this s would be sometime around 1970/71. Thinks of living in the UK or Israel with “> his new Polish wife after that; probably UK. Dubinsky was quasi~invited to a tieeting here with the Viets, which is why he was in Paris. Before leaving the States he got letters of introduction from RobeninGreenb tact and Mel Rakek Rothenberg to Mme Than Van Pham, Dubinsky had been contacte y Dubinsky about a meeting of mathematicians with the Viets ‘(to discuss the state of ce higher math in Vietnam and life in general" [this apparently said with a straight face!], which he billed to PETUNIA as an apolitical meeting "to prepare for “ .. American-Viet relations after the war", Dubinsky was supposed to meet Greenblatt -. in Paris, but he can’t find himad can't find anyone who knows him...so he's’ taken to sitting in cafes in hopes Greenblatt with walk past! If Greenblatt and the meeting don't show up soon, he's going to leave for Cambridge. He is ‘reluctant to contact the Viets directly despite the two letters of introduction Since he says he'd not give the time of day to anyone who just appeared at his . door -~ with or without letters, [His position was reinforced by Susan George, ~ Who agreed; George added that she didn't know Than Van Pham.) rel 3. Martha BULTMANs ee oo —— ee Met on 20 June (address: 4, ave. Hoche; tel CAR 42-84), Said | . her father John. Hess had just written a book on De Gaulle and his foreign policy; . . was rather proud of his father. Said "my father would be considered to be : extreme left in the US, but actually he is cautious if even a conservative in “many ways." Said her parents were zazkix very suspicious and had always told” _., always to be careful since you never could tell when someone works for the CIA. “ Deseribed her father as having a tremendous amount of knowkédge about a great thany things, which is reflected in his writing. He can easily argue an opposing “: wiewpoint, and does in social coaversations for the fun of it. Whey travel a uo good deal, using Paris as hote., Last year, her parents went to Amsterdam and ~ Switzerland and are planning to go to Amsterdam again. Hess started out in Latin America, twenty or so years ago. At one time he worked in Cuba making © S cigars or something (PETUNIA: that's a direct quote!); speaks Spanish perfectly. ows _ Martha commented: “of course he is very sympathetic toward radical youth and the ~ “ revolutionary movement in general, but has a critical sptrit." He supposed to | “. be very strict about not imposing on people he knows, and would never send one - . Extend to contact another, Had dinner one night (apparently recently)? with : .. Mary MeCarthy and husband (chez Hess). Commented UcCarthy 1s very bourgeoises — fer husband is quiet and looxs like Clay Shaw. McCarthy feels that the NVNese ._ - have handled their propaganda rather badly on the war, and Hess agreed (no | elaboration). «— a 7 ; Pe a Martha is sympathetic towuxdés the deserters and resisters fo da Paris, says there are 13 or 14 who are the real committed ones, but about “60 who are in the Paris ‘movement group’. McCarthy apparently has pretty -, good contact with the movement, and is at least in contact with some resisters; -gaid that she'd mentioned Cox's neme once, - oo oe Bo, oe Martha works for SDS in New Orleans, but is tired of their — - yhetoric; she can't stand PLP people. Mentioned Sue Munaker (another PETUNIA a contact) had written a 40 page essay on the “quen's Liberation Novenent to _.. be published in some forthcoming beox oa the studéSt Jefr, | Martha knows = .. Dubinsky. . oo . - . - = 7 een ee timemi ne acd WW 53199 DocTd:32349752 Page 4
er ee 4. . Susz aa GEORGE: ee Met Susan George “« on 24 June (address 42 x. du Cherche-tlidi; -’ phone number LIT 48-01). Discussed banning of PACS last October: she said the leader of the MPL (Claude Bourdet) suggested that PACS members joingd the MDE; .- _ thece had been no little hesitation after the French had tossed Croyell. out but _. people ware now gravitating toward the MPPLwhich is composed of. individuals _/ from almost every political grouping. The MDPL's basic issue is of course .. Vietnam, though at bkse the movement is committed: to an anti-imperialist, anti~ . ~ . capitalist position. George described it es a very flexible organizétion with . | ... GO structured leaders or administrative committees so kz it can avoid the a bureaucratic indecision of old PACS leadership gxoups., MDPL members are developing ' ‘political conscicusness" and have passed the point of regarding ; tae | Vietaam war as just a ‘mistake’, . , - George, herself, was working at the American College ak in the Registrar’ s office; said theve were ebout a half dozen radicals in the - ., College, she knows them and is sympathetic toward their efforts. Claims the. -«. schools administrator is a “paranoic dicta ator", She resigned aftex the © '., principal of the school accused hez of “conspiratorial counseling". Has + done translating work, but pos prefers more “active” and less ' 'confining" .: jobs. She has eceived an advance from Beacon Press to write a book on vo". Americans deserters in France. When PETUNIA asked her where he income really ~ eane fx HOimy she replied that she lives off her husband! . nad . The tone of the conversetion with her, PETUNIA commented, was - 7 very pro-UNese; she said they have offered “magnanimous gestures to work with _ thefAherican people after the wer is over", Feels that they are handling . “\!the war ahd the negotiations brilliantly. She frequently sees "her Vietnamese - . friends", and they have told her they are very satisfied with the progress of “ithe struggle and its certain outcome. Mentioned that she would see her friends “the next day to get their reactions/approval to a circular prepared for |. distribution advertising the 4 July meeting. Also said she had just talked — . > lwith her friends last night about the meeting. and was ‘sure that they © would | ad approve the circular. i Mises. she made a “tape for Pacifica Corp on. "the war and oo resistance, you knows so" said that a Paris law student wha is giving legal — _help and draft counselling to resisters in Paris (!)3 name not mentioned, . “said that last year she was mostly tied up with PACS and dida't work with | ne “Maraist Studay Groups". _ Plans to go to. the US in August to visit her. mother. = 5. Johan SSK LNU: re eserter fron + Axmy whom PETUNIA met in the Luxembourg by. oy chance. - Cdained he was in security in the Army and was one of two who had ° brokea a Russian codes; because he had.a German girlfriend and had gone off <:, for several weekends with her (AWOL), he was thrown in jail. Left about a “ year ago, he said, and has been in France for 7 months. Has no money and few possessions; is looking for ways to get $300 with which to buy papers to ‘. go G0 Canada where he wants to settle. White in France, he has been living - Off vich old women. Was living in the ADC house in Pantin but got thrown | -. Gut because he wes an acid-head and was bringing pot home. (PETUNIA commented .. . you have to be pretty bad to get thrown out of that house.) Claimed to be .. £eem Cleveland, originally, . Said that some French movie actress puts up _-the money for the deserters’ house and contributes to their funds. PETUNIA described his as a real crackpot end potentially dangerous. Has no place » to stay in Paris and is thinking about going south for a while; mentioned | i * that, wel" have a couple of colonies in Toulouse. 7 Ge Maris OLAS: . . Met, on 2 July. Jolas asked about the movement in the States and concluded that the radicals cen't afford to bicker Like children (with xeference to the SDS/PLP split. Said she thought the PL position with respect to “the NVNese and the war was ridiculous — made no other comments on the American tmovemente — a . — , Said that what happeried to "Max" was regrettable, but that | |. his ‘tactics were deplorable. Be vir tually snubbed his | nose at the French a: polices : oe Said that she felt the “Amexicari movement had largely for gotten the war and that more work against the wax was being done in Paris than in| ‘the US, Mentioned the Paris movement was pretty well coordinated and ready oo to go with coordinated demonstrations to time with those held in the US, last: .£all, but the MOB simply failed to keep in touch with them. Said that this -was no. fault of Dave Deillinger’s, whose credentials were impeccable, but he - : AW 53199. Doeld:32349752 Page 5 _
. 7 F toe roe does need an orgenizational secretary behind him, Nevertheless, she lamented the _ fact that many people from the old PACS were frightened away after the French |. penned it (aizvaid of losing passports OF being tossed out), and not everyone had * " sofned Bourcet’s Gutfite -— 2. 0,7,., Aati-Vietnen Meetings: “2 Jf. | See ‘Oa 24 June, a group collected at Claude Bourdet’s home to use his © --addzess file to sead out invitations to the 4 July meeting. Bourdet's address — - file comprises approximately 1,500 names and addresses; Bourdet commented that he hed a seperate file for French communist pecty members. Working at the meeting “os were Susan George, Dean Savage, Relph Fischer and Elizabeth LNU [Adler? ]. Fischer — “. Gecege is a physics teacher at 2.Jrv. College in Brooklyn; visiting Paris. Savage . is married to a YugoSSav gixl; he writes fox the Guardian, about 25 years old, - gleea sheven, bright but cold. Oa others, see above. Ds So - On 3 July, another group collected to work up posters for the — co hey eeting. Involved then were: Cox, Dubinsky, Elizabeth LNU, Susan George, Jolas, = - rter, a resister and 2 girls. No names for the Latter four. PETUNIA . d up the info that the deserter was from Vietnam, he held a factory job, ather is a good friend of Westmoveland's. © C. co ols 7 ae On 4 July, the meeting took places it alternated speakers and y " ‘¢extss one hour, someone read the names of American war dead; second hour, , somecne read from texts provided by the Vietnamese. On the latter point, there wes a last minute change of tactics py the Viets. The original idea had been a political wake for the American dead and for those in Vietnamese villages | borbed by the Americans. Thus: the names of the war dead and the names of i - bombed villages would be xead out. At the last moment, the Viets told Susan “George that the names of bombed villzges had nom “political significance”, and _- instead they'd rather the meeting read aloud from material marked in red by -. the Viets. George want along with the idea, though Jolas among others didn't. - Like it since it altered the purpose end impact of the meetings Nonetheless, a “the Viet alteration was accepted. Very few people attended the 4 July meeting; PETUNIA wasa't impressed at all. Everyone signed two books open in the back ren of the room: oe called for an end to the war; a second was 4 ptedge of support ee to the Viets. Everyone signed, end the Viets took this book back with theme  .- ee . Three Viets appeared during the day, sat quietly in the back of the room and fe “ “gaid Little to anyone other then themselves, and left not long after they'd arrived. One of the three returned that evening to collect the signature book.: After the meeting was over at midnight, everyone went their separate WaySo - ‘ oo". 9, julia Hervestnieat - Se Poe ye Se 7 ‘ Anecdote from Dublusky. Dubinsky said he first metzeeheee in» -: Ghana (where Dubinsky wes for a while doing social work). While there he also n | met someone else he described as, at the time, his best friend. Latex he heard | : feon Urigh dHerve that his friend had been the one who killed Richard Wright. = li Dubinsky did not mention the name, but said the episode is described in the DO ’ beography on Wright. He at first refused to believe Julia Herva's assertion =. '; -b utc later became convinced of it. His friead never denied the guilt, and : > @id admit to being a CIA agente Wright was killed by the CIA because he had ~ 1 o- just finished a manuscript on the use of American blacks abroad by the. — ° sevexnmente . on : So a 9, Other: ; oe a an Be a —. a, From his girlfriend, PETUNIA learned that Rene Mayer has “disappeazed"; he has apparent}¥y left France and no one knows where he si. ne b. The Lancaster family wom PETUNIA met last time is now in Brazil. c.. Rsked me to check on Barrio -= nobody answers at their phone number. d, raised the problem of his hernia and draft status =~ see cable. po e, schedule agreed to: he'll be back on or about the lst and will tet me know via postcard (innocuous and wish you were here variety, seribbled —. signature) what date he'll be backe Site aad time of meeting arranged. | £, Said he was about out of money; agreed to get together very | " priefly the following day so { could give him some money» : -- Paul! KS CHALEMSKY NW 53199 DocId:32349752 Page 6