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, i PA ier seme aop ya. APR Nh BN OR BRAN ENT He Bete Levante tA BIL INE RERETD tte me eames ge ANN RA Sremarer umaeecegnaitna ne tee TER ete kta en men nM MED EY ACen sates : Insert for VECIANA fonzi 208 ae McCone insert On August 17, 1978, the Committee deposed John A. - McCone, the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from October, 1961 until April 30th, 1965 classified Top Secret testimony, 8/17/78, p.4) During the course of the deposition, the following questions and answers were recorded: XXWXAXXWWXARY ERX Q: Do you know or did you know Maurice Bishop? A: Yes. Q: Was he an agency employee? A: I believe so. Q: Do you know what his duties were in 1963? A: No. -- Q: For instance, do you know whether Maurice Bishop worked in the Western Hemisphere Division or whether he worked in some other division of the cta? A: I do not know. I do not recall. I knew at that time but I do not recall. Q: Do you know whether Maurice Bishop used any seudonyms? . i: ° (206) A: No, I do not know that. (Ibid, pp. 45,46)
Hh fonzi é an ae (DAVID PHILLIPS) J t+ Insert into VECIANA fe% David Atlee Phillips testified before the €ommittee in Executive Session on April .25, 1978. He said he never 182 used the name @® Maurice Bishop. He said he did not know 183 of anyone in the CIA who used the name @® Maurice Bishop. He said he had seen Antonio Veciana Only twice in his life, the second time ieenyenty morning of his hearing before the Committee when Veciana, who had testified earlier, emerged from the hearing room while he, Phillips, was in the hallway. Phillips said the first time he met Veciana was at a meeting of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers in Reston. He said that Veciana was brought to that meeting by an investigator from Senator Schweiker's office but, said Phillips, Veciana was spot introduced to him by name but only as "the driver." He said Veciana asked him some questions in Spanish but at the time, B@xermetim he didn't know who Veciana was or why Senator Schweiker's office had 187 sent him to the meeting. Phillips also testified that he had never used the 138 name AK Frigault and had never used a Belgian passpor Phillips was shown the sketch of Maurice Bishop but could not identify it as anyone he knew. He said, however, 189 "It looks like me."
ih footnotes for VECIANA - Phillips section _ Hear inas befone +the Howe of David Atlee Priites, Select Comm ithe On Agsassrmanant 182. Executive Session, classified testimony, 4/25/78 \p. 89, 183. Lbia 184. Ibid, p. 86. 185. Ibid. 186. Ibid. 187. Ibid, p. 95. 188. Ibid, p. 88. 189. Ibid, p. 90.
“ a (70 insert Veciana write up (ef insert GUPTON The Committee staff *nterviewed, Doug Gupton on August (170 22nd, 1978 at CIA headquarters, (Gite ficients Gaal, Gupton said he worked for the CIA from December, 1951, until his retirement in June, 1978, much of that time on the Covert Action Guidance Staff. tsb) Gupton confirmed that he was in charge of propaganda operations at the Miami JM/WAVE Station | and that his immediate superior was David Phillips(  eeimndey Gupton acknowledged that Ross Crozier was a case officer who worked for him and that he saw Crozier on a daily basis (‘esta Gupton said he does not recall whether E. Howard Hunt or David Phillips ever used the name of (124) He said he does not recall Phillips 17) ever using the name of Maurice Bishop. sitios = When told about Crozier's recollection of him referring to Phillips as "Mr. Bishop," Gupton said: "Well, maybe I did. I don't remember." eeenay He also said, however, that he never heard the name of Bishop while he was (127) stationed in Miami. (jee When shown the sketch of (78) Bishop, he said it did not look like anyone he knew. (Gala Explaining his working relationship with David Phillips, Gupton said he was in contact with. him regularly in Washington by telephone and cable and that Phillips visited Miami "quite
(179) Often."  (agipamiss Gupton said, however, that there were two sets of operations. His set of Operations was run out of Miami and he kept Phillips informed of them. Phillips ran another set of operations personally out of Washington and, Gupton said, Phillips did not keep him briefed about chem. seems Gupton also said he knew that Phillips used many of i Old contacts from Havana in his personal (#1 Operations. ite)
footnotes for VECIANA ~- Gupton section aa bnbres oh t VEE LANA House Seleed Commitkee Os ee oF Doug Gupte, A AssasS cwationsy - 170. Staff interview) 8/28/78, JFK Document No. 002101 171. Ibid, 172. Ibid. 173. Ibid. - 174. Ibid, p. 2. 175. Ibid. 176. Ibid. _ 177, Ibid. 178. Ibid. 179. Ibid. 180. Ibid 181. Ibid.
\ . fonzi jad i B.H. insert 204 insert for VECIANA..... On August 10, 1978, B.H. (Balmes Nives Hidalgo Jr.), a former covert operative of the CIA, was interviewed by the (#4) Committee in a special closed session. B.H. was a CIA agent S Gees (19s) from 1952 to 1970. Gewiee——S). Between 1960 and (96) 1964 he was assigned to Cuban operations, (itiosiatiepsqtenmy ad As such, he testified, he was involved in "day-to-day" Operations with David Atlee Phillips. He characterized Phillips as "an excellent intelligence officer" and "a (197) personal friend." gece When asked if he knew an individual named Maurice Bishop, B.H. said: "Again, Mr. Bishop was in the Organization but I had no personal day-to-day open relationship. with him. Phillips, (778) yes; Bishop, no. I knew them both..." (@jituetmtesesmmmsgats Although he couldn't describe Bishop's physical characteristics, B.H. said he had seen him "two or three (199) (2 oo) times" hiniesigeeeteie) ir the "hallways or cafeteria" Se emai at CIA headquarters in Langley. B.H. a. 5 thought ot Ob Bishop worked in the Western Hemisphere 0 Ga) ad Oa and that he had a position "higher than me." lame) He could not be more specific. The two or three times he saw Bishop, he said, was between 1960 and 1964 when he himself was in Cuban operations, although, he said, he didn't know (203) if Bishop worked in that area also. an ee... —_
2, 2B.H. insert Asked how, if he didn't personally know Bishop, he knew the person he saw at CTA headquarters was Maurice Bishop, B.H. said: "Someone might have said, 'That is Maurice Bishop,' and it was different from Dave Phillips Go) or Hal Swenson, guys that I know." es. However When shown. ‘the sketch of Maurice Bishop, > W B.H. could “not identify it as anyone he recognized.
footnotes for VECIANA -- B.H. section Commiber Enterviewol Boalmes Nives tidal go ,Te., A . Classified Top Secret. closed session, 8/10/78, Hause Selecd 194. 195. 196. 197. 198. 199. 200. 201. 202. 203. 204. ibid, ibid, Oo 's Co SO SO eS xe) GS SW 3 6. 8. 29. 30. 31. 33. 31. 32. 35. 33. Committee, on AS ASSBWar/0nS.
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