Released under - the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1993 (42 UST 2107" Note). . DARE: Ai- 14-2017 boo . Qe Kow. soon: after. Mark had. arrived did he start? A. Half hour. Q. Tell us just what hapvened, what he did to you, what you did to him, what -he did to Fnyliis and what Phyllis did to him? A. Ee "undressed and: (Phyllis started out by stickin ‘S. & candle in. his rectum. © : t { . | Jf G. Now, let me interruyt you be sfore you GO any further. Had “|: he given Phyllis instructions as to what to do? A. He had given Phyllis a list of instructions that. she had given to me to Took over, thet t he-wanted her to give me, { i as ‘Did you. see Wark hand these instructions to Phyliis? poet! Ae Now : nn eye { | I AP Qa Did she. show: you these instructions before he came in? acre Ma No, I didn't see then. She told me they were in his own . WERE NE 6 « Loire . oe | Po Qe “Did Phyllis show you the instruction sheet? A. Yes. . ceereees ea . | a oe CQ, I show you this piece of paper and ask you what that is? foo tad i eae We That is the instructions Merk gave Phyllis, as far as I knOWe | cs io Vd Q,. Would you put your initials on the reverse side of that piece! a + [/ of paper? A. WITNESS PLACES HEX INITIALS E. L. S. ON THE Cae he RE EVERSE. SIDE CF Tis SHEET OF. PAPER. —_ , ont PoQ. Start agein, tell me what hapvencd? A. Mark took off his "Clothes. At: first Phyllis, I’ think the first thing she did, she », put one. candle with a big end in his rectum and then another .. candle with a smell end in his rectum with vaseline and pushed “them ali the way up so that about a foot of candle was in his ‘ts rectum. Then she plucked hair from his testicles with tweezers, . ‘and she put a cocktail stirrer in the hole of his penis and then 4] put alcohol on the cocktail stirrer and: put it in his penis and | hen put alcohol on his penis, And she gave him an enema and mad “him hold the enema in him while he masturbated. Ee couldn't “hold it any longer and had tc go and relieve himself. We beat him with a belt that raised welts on his buttocks. We took “shut Lotte pictures of him. We hig one of. the pictures that had “his face in it. so-we would have it as evidence for something if. ..we ever needed ‘it. And we repeated the same bit with the candle, Swith the: enema, with the cocktail stirrer, with the tweezers and 8 -with hit needles. We got thez hot over a cigarette lighter end. 7 | Peking them in his testicles and his rectum and beating him with my “the belt. And he wanted us to do it more and more. He didn t Ms ‘want to stop. Pretty soon it got late and Phyllis had to feédd- hey : “| daughter and she left the room anc I started doing these things, ... beating him, with the cocktail stirrer, with the alcohol, and “then. instead of masturbating he wanted me to masturbate him. Phyllis ana I wanted him out of there, wanted to get him home, so -'I thought maybe if he came he would go home. I tried and the next... thing: ‘I.knew he was trying to take my clothes off me. He wanted | |i: to make love to me. He got my clothes half off of me. I was just. | :” . trying’ nicely to push him away and he had most. of my clothes off ne me. Finally I said to hell with it, Itll take them off. . And 5 a Phyllis’ like came to the door and he told me to tell her not to o/h. come: in for a while. So I told her not. to come in for a while. ‘|| He made’love to me. . , . we + tat ‘: aan ote, een f ‘ 7 H aa : oh | | DocId:32311911° Page &
fReleased under the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records. _ Collection Act of 1992 (44° use DATE: “dp 14-2 -2017 ~ oF . . ot ashamed with whet "happened. ‘ around his rectum and testicles Q. Let me interrupt you. The word making love ‘to me doesn't mean anything to me. pression making love to me? Tell us just what: ne. did? - “*, He in rserted his penis in my vagina. . _ a . Q.- Continue? A. He was trying to co it very saddtetdeny. ~Q. .Thet does not mean anything to me. I want "you to tell ‘me ~ exactly: what you mean by the word saddisticly? A. He was. tryi hie force it in very hard to hurt me and I wouldn't let him. ried to put my legs up in the wouldn't let him. Finally ne stopned. I don't reached a climax or not. . qt think he did. It™m not positive. reason I'm not positive is: because afterwards he kept, trying xeep getting, near me and trying to do° him. cause he kept try rine to de it got dressed and I, in so many wer zr never wanted to.sée hin’ again, told him I didn't want anything Like this to happen. again, Q. Alright now, giving Mark Lene this so calicsa te nude? 4, No, _=I was completely had a housecoat on. and I wouldn't let him. ‘told him that L was: vaty- aa Zain ‘let me ask you ¢ few questions. Q. Did you show Mark any nude pictures? a We., humiliating picture of himself that, we had ‘taken. Q. Other than that? A. Wo. . “ - oe Q Q.. During th € course of this test I take it you did'ta ke some . pictures? A. Yes, Phyllis hes. @ vase with long stem flowers. || I. | in it and we stuck them in his rectum and-we took. pictures of thate-. us- to: ‘use: our imagination for. . . i [- | : | ae And also during the test he wanted: things, so I used my imagination, Q. Inwhat.way? A. ? took matches and set fire to the hair Q. Did both you and Phyllis cake pigtires? . ‘Yes. - Q. What kind of canera Coes. Phyllis have?” Ae” Polaroid, Q. I show you this photogranh end ask ‘you if you. ever saw it” before? A, This is the one picture that ‘f. know of. for’ sure that we got with his face in it. Q, Who took that picture? 4, Phyllis, . | - ‘7 . i Q. I direct four attention to a han nd in the lower part: of the | picture and I ask you whose: hang. tha t is?. A, -It must be my .."! and. ) va ne Q. And what ere you doing av the time? oe iI imagine I'm: sticks ing needles in’ his testicles. Hot needles. ns ot oe C. Would you put “your. initi als on the reverse . ‘side of that photos ereaon? A. WITNESS PLACES HER INITIALS E od. S. ON. THE REVERSE SIDE OF THE PHOTOGRAPH. = 3 - A DocTd:32311911 Page 9 I want: to know what you mean by that eX— He | air so it would hurt sie more and 1. Know ‘whether he .. a it again end I ouldn’ t let) nat's why I think I'm not sure whether he did or not. ber: st were either you or: Phyllis , ‘cressed ina suit and Pay lis 7 ‘When. you were’ fs | showed his the. i; i ha art [==] Fon | - oO ct A | > mates oa er emitsnee emsnatin sane Ld se ae no eee nares meets uevenee 7 « - I ‘ |
" ae Qe Now, after Phyllis. went into the baby's room to give the baby: ‘her bottle . .s?) A. She. took the baby into the kitchen to cook supper, for hers ae - . Peas: You were left alone wit Mark, is the t correct? A, Yes. - Q. “And I under stend thet eventuaily you became nude too? . A.” tes. mh. Qe “You toldne before he hag sexual relations with you, is that ~correct? A. Yes. . 7 i Q.: Did he have sexual reletions with vou in an unnatural manner, Le or attempt to have relations in en unnatural manner, and if.so, © - how? Aj He had relations with me in a somewhat natural manner 4 to the extent. that he did it naturally but tried very much to hurt |..me at the same time. Previously he tried to hurt me and attempted to, insert it in my rectum, which is unnatural. oe Dia he succeed? A, ‘Re, I rei “used. to let him. “Qe Did he place his penis in the pr oximity of your rectum? v Ae I believe so... . ot me QS Did he request you to. have nnatural relations in any other fs Manner? . A... Yes. oo Oe How? What did he say to you anc @ what ‘did you say to him and what did ne do? A, He requcsted me to place my south on his Penis and I told him he was out of his aind . Qe In the instructions ‘that he gave you and Phyllis, did he re- “quest you to use the belt on hin? A. Yes. Lo ; oe Did you or ‘Phyllis. do so? A. Yes. |-& ‘here did you get the. belt from? &, His belt. From his egy ‘And how did you or Phyllis spof With. ite. 2 Qo. tho did thet? A, I did. ?.: A, ‘Beating on his buttodéks a ct Ct Qy At anytime during this orz zy, aid you-or Phyllis tie his hands “Ae. Phyllis. tied his “hands. ; -Q. Where? A. Behind his back, right after the begi nning of it! at his request. “{p behind his back and not too securely. ja And was that pursuant - to his instructions also? A. Yes, “ i ? | | | - . . | “PQ. And were his hands. tied to any fixed position? 4A. Just | | i | { | ! t | i
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