HW 450955 aa ase cr. Co 8) ie Docld: t i | | | | \ | | | { | | ‘ i a « { i 4 ' | | { te t [| "Fan ara #2977223 Page 43 Th a RN rh : 2 soy oy a re ny A 4} ba ok £2 4 gas e# S34 as ge eG Mrs. Scaletti. Very possibly. They are pretty good abou that. But in 1963 I think we had to do our own. I might even have done some of that searching myself. Today it matic, you are not allowed to do your own name traces. In. 1963 sometimes you would do your own name trace. It was upt to you to look far enough. 40 i is auto- = serine rents # tennant ere ‘ene ~rt Mr. Goldsmith. It is possible in 1963 if you looked up Oswald, Lee Harvey, you might miss Lee Henry? Mrs. Scaletti. Right. I would look enough to the Lee Oswald. If you saw Henry and you saw Harvey and they both had | the same birth date you would pick it out and see that there | | - was a mistake. ~Mr. Goldsmith. What I meant was if you did-a name trace | on Lee Harvey and you saw Lee Henry and didn't check, it would | be possible for you to miss it entirely? obviously. The suggestion has certainly been made .this information being released to the public, the has been made that by opening the file in the name Oswald if someone wanted to do a name trace on Lee have had the tendency to have that name Lee Harvey alo FS 7 st , Be ne Mrs. Scaletti. It would be possible. With your good checker, especially if there is some identifying data on the card, you would pull -- lots of times you pull many variations. | | | | \ | | | Mr. Goldsmith. The reason I ask the question is fairly Oswald they. would miss that person and for some reason they may by virtue of; suggestion. | of Lee Henry Harvey ** i | { Oswald over- . H 001749
Yi vebAL: 41 looked for whatever reason. — Mrs. Scaletti. The only thing I can say is that it is ad | standard procedure to open up a file and register it in the first name that tecomes available. I am not saying what was da ° done in the case of Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald. This is the normal 6 procedure. The normal procedure is as other names, which are , a vareity of that, come up eross. reference cards are placed : 3 in the system. So that possibly until it is determined for 9 sure that Lee Harvey is correct that might appear in the file as io | a cross reference alias to Lee Henry, in which case under Lee ! 7 Henry you would have a cross: index card listing the alias, : 12 | | "see also.Lee Harvey", which would mean that you would have to ' do name traces under Lee Harvey. + i> | t | i j i | a | Mr. Goldsmith. I would like to show you CIA number 822 | a) which is a list of American defectors which had‘ been provided Z - the Agency by the State Department. On the-list is Lee | 7 | Harvey Oswald. According to testimony received by the Committes-. of Oswald's 201 file. It refers to him by his name in the 134 that letter and the attached list is what led to the opening . I correct manner, Lee Harvey Oswald, and not Lee Henry Oswald. That is why there is a question as to why the file was opened 22 in the name of Lee Henry Oswald. oe Mrs. Scaletti. I would have no idea about that. The ; only thing I can point out and put in the record is that unless) one has worked with name trace indices one has no comprehension) . H fo 001750. f :
: } a nm Hy da a doy - 50955 Docld: as ves, 4p ag Ata - fog a aw OB . oa anya Go Pt tg ad 29 Be B 420 of the variety of the way names app-ar and are spelled and are taken off records. “It just boggles the mind on how anybody finds anything sometimes. Mr. Goldsmith. The issue I am concerned with is. whether by opening the file under Lee Henry Oswald it would have been possible to.in effect hide the information that the Agency has on Lee Harvey Oswald. Mrs. Scaletti. I would say there was no idea of any | birth date or there was an eroneous birth date which would make} L you look at the card and say "this could not be the same ~. because this man is older than this person." A good name _tracer prob bly would come up with all the references. t | . . j Mr. Goldsmith. If the Mexico City station was aware of | the faet that Oswald had also contacted the Cuban Embassy and | ; that he was requesting a visa, should that information have been communicated? 7 Mrs. Scaletti. Could you repeat that? : Mr. Goldsmith. If Mexico city station was aware that Oswald in addition to contacting the Soviet Embassy had also | contacted the Cuban Embassy and that with regard to his contacts at each Embassy was requesting a visa, should that information | have been passed along to the Mexican besk as requested by the. cable Erom headquarters to Mexico City station? ! Mrs. Scaletti. It probably should have but it probably not necessarily would have been because the same poeple do not | er 001754 | “9 %
da oo HW 50955 DBocld: read that traffic. In other words, the people who listen to the Cuban things would not have known anything about the Soviet: i : : traffic. They would not have known anything about Lee Harvey | Oswald. | ‘Mr. Goldsmith. Assuming that the. people at the Mexico | | | | | . ; | City station knew of these contacts at the Cuban Embassy and } | | | of the fact that Oswald was requesting a visa, in other words, | | | assuming that the person who sent the original cable to head- | | . ! quarters reporting Oswald's contact with the Soviet Embassy, assuming that person very shortly afterwards found out about , | | | 4 the contact with the Cuban Embassy and about Iswald's request for a visa, should. that person have sent that information to . | heacquarters in cimpliance with the request in the headquarters| . i 1 i cable for further information on .Oswald? Mrs. Scaletti. .I.think that would be expected, eee , - \ Mr. Goldsmith. What would you have done had you received: that information? Mrs. Scaletti. I. probably would have jogged our memory i : again andvw might have gone back out to the Department of State or FBI and said "Look, here is this man. again, he is | showing up. Now let us know what you have.” | Mr. Goldsmith. The FBI and the State Department would $ ! have been notified? ~~ oo | . | Mrs. Scaletti. Yes. We would have gone back and referred f to our original out message and also maybe there would have been i 1 \ 4 001752 © reap = ue { 32277223 Page 46 |
HW 50955 i aa Bocld: 49277223 Page 47 i cable to Mexico City station and you teletyped these other “bell? bid you remember the earlier cable traffic about him? nated, I don't even remember how long it was before they go the, 44 additional information coming in on the contact with the Dubans whichwould have made us feel that either the physical _ description was not right or we might have more bio, or whatever. . Mr. Goldsmith. . When was the next time after you sent a agencies, when was the next time you heard of Lee Harvey Oswald? | Mrs. Scaletti. I don't remember. The only thing I can say is that based on what is in the file that I must have heard about it when the station came in and asked ~~ well, if there ! | { | | | i i | was nothing else in the file the name popped up again, I just | don't remember.about the assassination or whenever. | Mr. Goldsmith. Would the testimony be that to the best | . { of your recollection the next time you heard the name was when | you heard about the assassination? | Mrs. Scaletti. Probably. . Mr. Goldsmith. At that time did the name Oswald ring a |! Mrs. Scaletti. I just don't know. When he was assassi- name of Oswald. Mr. Goldsmith. Oswald was picked up within two hours. i | i i after the assassination and the name was made public. : } . i Mrs. Scaletti. Immediately? Mr; Goldsmith.. Yes. t 901753. acaael ieee)
ow 45 Mrs. Scaletti. If I were in the office unless I had the : } af wD | radio on -- we didn't have a radio in the office neceesarily te probably. I would assume this was a Little bit unusual, I ayn | -- I would not have heard the name Oswald until the next day i ‘might have tied it in... I'am sure the first thing they would a have done is make a name trace when they came up with that name and they would come up with a 201 file all over again. 3 Mr. Goldsmith. Do you recall where you were on. Friday, $ November 22, 1963? 10 ; Mrs. Scaletti. The only thing I remember about it is \ ie | going home and finding my husband sitting in front of the TV | \ 12 and talking about it. I probably was at the office but I | I . _& a iS] don't remember anything. I blanked out. I must have been at | z \ the office. | | ! 15 ' Mr. Goldsmith. Do you remember bringing Jack Whitten the, is Oswald file on that day? : ir | Mrs. Scaletti. I wouldn'ttremember that. If he had | 12 | asked for it I probably did.: It would have been natural for me =| to if I did. Io just don't know. — | | 20 | Mr. Goldsmith. Did you ever find a photograph of Lee : 2 Harvey Oswald at CIA Headquarters? Ss _ 33 Mrs. Scaletti. I don't remember. ever finding an Oswald : . | 1s | photograph. | | | | Mr. Goldsmith. Right around the time of the assassination? Hy { a3 Mrs. Scaletti. I don't remember it. | - i ! : 7 | 001754) -_ TAR Seagrr | | HW 50955 Docld:32277223 Page 48 3 t 4 fog : de ag q .