v9.1 AGENCY : RECORD NUMBER : RECORD SERIES : AGENCY FILE NUMBER : ORIGINATOR : FROM: TO: TITLE : DATE: PAGES: SUBJECTS : DOCUMENT TYPE : CLASSIFICATION : RESTRICTIONS : CURRENT STATUS : DATE OF LAST REVIEW : OPENING CRITERIA : COMMENTS : JFK Assassination System Identification Fonn Agency Information KISS/SCOW 178-10004- 10296 SCOWCROFT MEMCONS APRIL 12, 1975 Document Information WH MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION 04/12/1975 2 ASSASSINATIONS, FOREIGN LEADERS KISSINGER, HENRY A. FORD, GERALD R. COLBY, WILLIAM E. CIA SCOWCROFT, BRENT MEMORANDUM Secret IC Redact 08/12/1993 Date: 8/27/20 Released under the John F. Kennedy Lesassination Records Collection bet of 1992 (44 U5c 2107 Note). rases#:iNl 54214 Date: 09-11-2017 Memorandum of conversation, participants: Ford, Kissinger, Scowcroft. HW 54214 Docld:32105722 Page 1
MEMORANDUM <>, THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON —SECREELNODIELHERE— - MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION PARTICIPANTS: President Ford Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State and Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs DATE AND TIME: Saturday, April 12, 1975 11:45 a,m. PLACE: . Oval Office Kissinger: The press at David Brinkley's dinner last night was saying that if you went to Dubuque, the reception for you with that message [to Rabin] would be great. They asked about your mood, and were you trying to.separate yourself, I said I thought you were at peace with yourself, Braden said he asked Colby if he could deny there had been any assassinations or plans for them. He said, no. Colby must go. President: Iagree. It is a matter of who and when. I want to go into the country. , ‘ Couldn't I weave into the bicentennial something about our foreign ~ policy? Kissinger: I have been thinking after last night; I don't have to give a major speech eachtime, Just talk for 20 minutes. %, a 9, President: That's right. The impact is you saying it. The thrust is “4 % we have to be strong. @. % CLASSIFIED BY__ HENRY A, KISSINGER EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652 SEGRE NOR aps pent Ra MD Ri earl Mek motored EXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1,3 AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON _Imp -_to det, HW 54214 DocId:327105722 Page 2
“SHER E Hep Seas 2. Kissinger: We can take sections from your [State of the World] speech and expand it. The people last night think within a year there will be an enormous backlash, This Congress is really McGovern's, because | of Watergate. Osborne thought your speech was great and the pardon was one of the most courageous things you have done. The press is out of touch with the country. President: The local press. Not out in the country. . Kissinger: The press is out of touch. Now that the Israelis have taken us on this year -- this year rather than next -- we maybe have the opportunity... We maybe should go for all the marbles. President: Any reaction from Greece and Turkey to my speech? Kissinger: The Turks are delighted. The Greeks are too, but they wanted the money under the table. President: We haven't heard anything from Brezhnev. Kissinger: Hamilton said he would introduce something. I told Javits if he is a Jewish spokesman he had to talk to me as an American and what is in it for the United States, Israel has done something again I would like to protest about. “I told Allon about your talk with Schmidt, to show them the concern about Portugal. Now it is in the Israeli papers. Itold Allon about them going to the Germans to contact the Europeans. They [the Israelis] in doing it this way make it look as if they are going behind our backs. Egypt is afraid of an attack. Ithink we should tell them if it happens we will formally dissociate. ’ President: Should we tell the Israelis that? Kissinger: When Allon is here, Three out of five speeches now on foreign policy would be good. Rallying the people should be the theme. We should stress the last part of the speech, but not avoid Vietnam either. President: Is the Vice President going to go? Kissinger: He doesn't want to. Se, a, ; ~» any, SECRETANODISLHEBE- ay HW 54214 Docld:327105722 Page 3