104-10219-10128 uA « ° rn 27 ane oe wat og sows 1 aay ; 4 . ne a ae cee DF e i V ave rnd 6 me + oe Ve 4. CG detse ec eee s, ra al ae ee > oF . ae “g”, we. a . Ze. a “3 A rr Oye pao ebm | ee 4 eT sperm. pger ner mewune Sumas | : ho hs © ptm” facie satede bs SFE Te > O - : BO ge eay peaepreiations “vi i “ " Nikolai stated tl that no neetinge would " “be held ta 3 i . the United States in the foreseeable future because the Sovists . ot ‘ did not desire to have any trouble with the new Administration. © ':. q : All meetings would be in Fast Berlin since the. -- «4 _ _ Wieke were leso there than in the United States, Nikolai also 2°74 “ ' pointed out that there is little risk for the Soviets, that it A” § : ; 46 easy for to enter and leave Bact Berlin end thet there ny : de less charide oF counter-intelligence organisations discovering, © "..vJ : thelr relationshir. 4 : a _Nikolat state: also that”. t was becter €3” heavese ce : 4 : - «personal contact between himself and Jeaving out drapi he YG ‘+. @hd meetings with a principal in a fdr country, Hittolad . Se : “t " felt that personal meetings between the two would insure @ . % 7% better operation. ° . ae i. rr crn Nikolai atated to "We don't have wang werptions « a ° working like this there a person works on a business baexmbs . : . . You will] furnish information in exchangs for money. If yoe- ; want to accept the ideology of Conmmund a, ouay, if nak» SIP a - ng the interrogation on this day Nikolas agai»: ~” os | naked | @ sotivation for working with the Soviets eng. © oop fay [toa him ee he had on the first cay. Ce eee, reat i 2 mY During the latter part of the anterrogation Baholes. “ _ * ,  @treased that there must be mutual trust, indieating that.’ .« * mos could show his mutual trust by proquaing saforsation: fan,-, % vo eee MR RRS a * nn pos then requested] fsraton tits FA ‘ake 7 — of tactala the United During tho interviag:. ae on January 27, 1952 eculd not Fecal the names he had <- - ¥ ‘furnished but during Interview on January 30, 1961 he atated so ~ ; that he furnished Nikolai tne names of Gary Oriffin, a Yaie 2 : Wolwersity professor who had been @ gevermeont sengultant, John - Gaderwood, who wag a security officer ef the United States OTF ae . Radio ra i Project, @né Oinger Tameons, te secretary © ‘ wee A ze ays aay pein tot shoot yf er RE. . ‘ re tle taabses s * f seth Meany eee ome ES wre onynion Bi ph OMY aD AE Se we FL Ma gg Sat vet gk aR TTT te tea BBE RE AE ARIE wantin Uh uget seth oat ee a! Frog oe gaint or ebm ce te oe tert NS my i ‘ -
. : “s8 . P a evens ean eon eee - ‘ j a ee pie, 3 6 . h “ae” , ai - By “a 4 3 a 4 oe * © a e oe CRET : : i 7 4 Re: 4 a 4 B ‘ Congresaman Carl] Hershaw of California, tated that thease Pe ee 3 ; nMamea have previously been furnigned by him to the Soviets. ed oy ‘a In addition t> these names furnished Nikolat names of ‘ a Congressman kage, Republican, Zilinois; Bernard Davis, a & e Publisher in New York City and Jack Haley, an Adminitatrator . for the House and Senate whese office is in the Capitol Bulldirg. $ felt that in crder to src« mutual trust he had to furnish . ' Ee ese additional names to Nicclai, Niliclat told knat the , a Sovieta believe they can trust him. [> |noted that all the * material he had written for Ni«volal was taxen by Nixolai and ; : felt that this could be used in the future ae a blacicnail. be threat against him. ei The meeting with Nikclai ended between 6:00 and 6:30 a p.m. and was driven bacx to the border between East and # West Berlin. me Prior to leaving for Esst Berlin on the morning of wy s, the next day considered taking gome tranquilizer pilis | & but then rejected this because he felt their effoct might be noticed “ a by Nikolai. On Monday morning, January 23, 1961,[. again u went to Esst Berlin and was driven to the eame apartment where . & he arrived about 12:00 noon. Nixolai again stressed the mutual vt & trust angie, pointing out that the Soviets had shown their trust = by their payments to him in the past even though very little of Le tA the informatio had obtained was of value to them. WNikolal of & j Gictated and[ wrote down that he cculd show mutual truat te a by doing constructive work for the Soviets with the underatandin 3 a ‘that he would be well paid for.the information he got and & jagreed that he would extend his efforte dince the Sovis ; eo shown their mutual trust by their past payments to hin. ® % ws, lgned the ‘statement and Nikolai -took.it from him, rn Bg . a oe ° ‘ . ? ‘ . 2 wie believed that it was either on the second day. ”- & . Or the third day that Nikolai gave him inetructions that theigz BY “ -: ReXt meeting would be at 6:00 p.m. on May 18, 1961 at the . Lod a ni oas ; pe ta ri ot Sains Ree rea. by 3 eg a ety eter CERES . met ently ate eis ater (eee meee soon, uate PS MU ASE IRE RI, + BT bee te crap tebe Mn te FPR POMEL 7? a we . ‘ cate ‘at scapes pang hte 1 Nae hte Ra, BREN ELE REIT oo . ao “ode Lets ce vpagealteepebee adseaipagptler se TEE ° : 4 ncaa aimee pana ht tea tdiph signet ee IRAN EN 7 Br wen be say qaieng Rb AD stem ne PUNE eel rs : PE ORL LR a RES »