oO ae a ond PH 166-119 _. The Boston Office advised the Philadelphia. office by telephone of Victim MARVIN LEONARD. CHIVIAN's apprehension in = Boston early morning hours of Octeber 25, 1963. Pertinent stops placed at Albuquerque, Dallas, Denver,’ El Paso, Houston, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Little Rs sok, Los Angeles, New Orleans, — Oklahoma City, Gmaha, Phoenix, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Knoxville, “Memphis, Detroit, “Cleveland, New York, Newark, were removed by Philadelphia 7 | office. of origin, 10/25/63. ‘Newark Division, former PH 407-¢ of the Philadelphia 0: interviewed - ae 10/23/63 by. Newark Agents and- “advised ollows: FK Act For the information of Bureau, | - [-___]relatea hig others without hesitation. met. 5h etth KONE ‘through. his association with SEYMOUR FLAX, operator of- ‘Frankie's® Market , Lodi, N.J., and one PAUL SMITH, a real estate promoter, ~ Palisades Park, N.J. After meeting KONIGSBERG, he’ and. ‘BAYONNE JOE ZICARELLI began .to. talk to him about various’ real) estate deals they were considering, He actually helped’ ZICARELLI purchase a lot in Englewood Cliffs by setting up a> corporation for ZICARELLI t purchase-the land under the. name Charlotte. Place, Ine.  ZICARELLI | wanted to build 4 house | for Unis sen, on ‘this lot but has never gone through: with Lt. a ‘on or about Mor day, 9/30/6 oa _KONIGSBERG | came. to [hana asked him if he knew al Jin delphis who could handle & real estate deal Pop _hi | told him _——— | | AW 45737 that he did, and KONIGSBERG asked SO arrange an appoint- ment’ with the lawyer for: 3:00 p.m., 10/2/63. [~ katiea ROBERT So HASS and made the appointment. On 10/3/63, Aaccer the GO previous arrangements, met KONIGSBERG at the Richfield Gas Station about 54th Street and Hudson Boulevard. West New York, N.J;, at about 2:00 p.m, The appointment was for 1:30 p.m., but KONIGSBERG was. late, oe ma ees is typical. when. Jarrivea at the Richfield Station, he but according to NK 2267-C-TE may be DE VITO. RALPH S a white male, age about 48, 5' 10", 175 pounds, black: and gray hair, always wears 2 "dandy" hat and impeccably dressed. fee aD pat aces and his asseciate RALPH, last name unknown to ai B COVER PAGE DoclId: 32303561 Page 2?
- a PH 166-119 During the small talk prior to the arrival of KONIGSBERG, there was no indication that either JOE or RALPH knew HAROLD wanted to go to Philadelphia. The fact that RALPH did not know was not considered unusual as he usually operates on a need-to-know basis with JOE ZICARELLI. JOE was: annoyed, as always, that HAROLD was late and was not clean shaven. JGE agreed to take HAROLD and Philadelphia but told HAROLD that he would have to f way back because he was not going to wait around for him to. complete all his business after he completed his business. thoroughly bawled him out for this _2iong with the > a ni s En route to Philadelphia in_JOE's white: eh | JOE and HAROLD rode in the front and in the’ rear. They listened to the VALACHI testimony en the radio and made several remarks in jest at the testimony. Upon arrival in Philadelphia, the car. was park apparently near to where JOE and HAROLD wanted to go.. took a cab to HASS' office, and he does not know where JOE and HAROLD went but believes it is undoubtedly close to ‘where they parked the car. He could not recall the exact location where the car was parked but recalls that if you left the © bullding. where HASS' office is, turned right and traveled _ about two blocks, then turned right again: and traveled. about fourteen blocks, that would be* the approximate place the car was parked. - ; Prior to their’ arrival in Philadelphia, called HASS from a@ Howard Johnsen's Restaurant on the New. Jersey Turnpike | and told him they would be late for the appointment . arrived in HASS' office about 4:00 p.m., 10/3/63, and this was the first time he had ever met HASS persorially. ‘although he talked to HASS. many times over the telephone in the past concerning real estate matters. He told HASS that KONIGSBERG was a gangster but that HASS would have nothing. to fear if he, HASS, stuck strictly to the point and the business at_hand and did not get off on a tangent of some type with him. [__ ]told HASS he did not mow what KONIGSBERG wanted his services. for. — C COVER PAGE HW 45737 DoclId: 32303561 Page 3 to Act 6 (4) ce = 1 tl
PH 166-119 Around 5:00 p.m., a white male, age in his middle 50's, 5' 10", dark complexion, Jewish or ‘Italian extraction, black and gray hair, medium height, whe may have real estate connections or live around Atlantic City, N.J., came. to HASS' office and to1a[ __Jana HASS that KONIGSBERG said he would be along a little later. Within the next heur, ‘another man arrived described as a white male , age 35,-5' 10", stocky, 185 pounds, black hair (probably ROB and said. KONTGSBERG would be there in a Pew minutes. pelates that typical of KONIGSBERG to have a let OF méSSage bearers... states thatthis second man was the one who introduced ZAVOD to KONIGSBERG for ‘the loan, . which was brought out. in subsequent conversation. Around 6: 00 p om, KONIGSBERG arrived and in his usual overbearing way promptly began to dominate the conversation. He showed HASS a piece of paper which apparently had to do with the sale of a house and demanded HASS. to use every trick he knew to obtain possession of the house. KONIGSBERG refused to e advice that the document may not be legal. To amazement, HASS knew the owner. of the property. was not the: person repre esented in the document, but the person's mother. At KONIGSBERG's request, HASS called the erson ‘represented in the document on the telephone, and elieves it was ZAVOD, KONIGSBERG told HASS. “bo tell ZAVOD that he, HASS, had been contacted by a lawyer in Bayonne, N.J., who had KONIGSBERG as a client, that HASS nad some kind of paper that showed ‘KONIGSBERG owned his preberty, and HASS suggested they talk it over. ZAVOD apparently did not want te talk about it; and since HASS apparently knew ZAVOD, they agreed to meet later and it was indicated that HASS lived near ZAVOD and they could talk about “it some evening, » HW 45737 KONIGSBERG Sdmitted to HASS that he was a shylock and a thief; but in erder to convince HASS that he was right in this matter, he called ROBERTS inte the office and told him to relate’ bhe real estate transaction which involved a Jewish organization in Philadelphia. ROBERTS did as he was told; but when ROBERTS began to tell about the arrangements and problems ef financing, KONIGSBERG made him shut up and chased him out of the office, . D ° COVER PAGE DoclId: 327303561 Page 4
PH 166119 KONIGSBERG “Instructed HASS- ‘to puild a fire under ZAVOD - and left. . _KONIGSBERG .then..ins tructed ROBERTS: to drive him and home, which ne did. On” the return trip, nothing of particular importance Was discussed, except ROBERTS tried to. ONIGSBERG. of his intelligence in dealing with criminals. ‘opined: that ROBERTS was a."small-time punk" and subsequently KONIGSBERG sapressed. ‘the same opinion tol Earler. this: week, HASS contaeted T Jana told him the FBI had balked to him about his dealings with KONIGSBERG. HASS askedL_sdJiff’ he would ask KONIGSBERG to release him. from his. lawyer-client confidence so that he could tell the agreed to do this. He called KONIGSBERG at his New | or the Grand Jury what their relationship. concerned. wanted this matter to appear in sn way a straight ‘business _ the waiver that HASS Was, sending UP. - ork City telephone’ number, IN 7-8670. KONIGSBERG at first declined but then agreed after | explained to him that it appeared to be in KONIGSBERG's nterest if KONIGSBERG deal. . KONIGSBERG agreed and tel [that he would sign. ‘received the waiver and a letter from HASS on 10/23 3'which is as follows: . "Dear. Al "y am typing this myself. If Hardéid will sign . the ‘enclosed paper, I would testify voluntarily. If not, I feel: tne. FBI Ribers subpoena me anyway. T cannot see what testimony I might give that. would hurt - hime The fact that he. came to Philadelphia to hire me as @ lawyer: to collect ‘a $13,500 débt cannot hurt him, unless the . federal autherities think that trying to collect ; money legitimately on & usuricus transaction is.a crime, Tf certainly doubt that it is, unless they can prove that too much money had already been | paid. Since we know this is: not the fact, they , ; can't preve it. ; B . COVER PAGE HW 45737 DoclId: 32303561 Page 5