Date: 01/17/05 JEK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM IDENTIFICATION FORM AGENCY INFORMATION , Peleased under the John Kennedy yy - AGENCY :; CIA WSsassination Records RECORD NUMBER : 104-10102-10104 ollection Act of 1992 \ RECORD SERIES : JFK \ AGENCY FILE NUMBER : 80TO1357A (44 USC 2107 Note}. ases#: NW 53294 Date: DOCUMENT INFORMATION Po—-13—-2017 AGENCY ORIGINATOR : CIA FROM : MEXICO CITY TO : DIRECTOR TITLE : CABLE: FOLLOWING IS RAPID BUT PRECISE TRANSLATION OF TRANSCRIPT OF CONVERSATION IN SPANISH BETWEEN PRES DORTICOS FROM HAVANA AND AMB JOAQUIN HERNANDEZ ARMAS IN MEXICO ABOUT SILVIA DURAN, MONEY, VISA, INTERROGATION, OSWALD DATE : 11/26/1963 PAGES : 5 SUBJECTS : DURAN, SILVIA DORTICOS-HERNAN DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER CLASSIFICATION : SECRET RESTRICTIONS : 1B CURRENT STATUS : RELEASED IN PART PUBLIC - RELEASED WITH DELETIONS DATE OF LAST REVIEW : 07/19/93 COMMENTS : JFK34 : F14 : 1993.07.19.18:21:47:680580 : MEXICO CITY STATION FILE COPY. {[R] - ITEM IS RESTRICTED 104-10102-10104 HW 53294 Docld: 32356652 Page 1
ess H f cc JRIG.:. COS XT: CLASSIFIED MESSAGE —s pate; 20 NOVEMBER 1963 STR: COMMO RESP FILE: (P3393 > _ CHRONO (DUMMY) CLASSIFICATION LIENVOY/PROD Silvia DURAN P NUMBER INITIALS PRIORITY 1} OPERATIONAL INITIALS IMMEDIATE _| | BLASH DEFERRED ROUTINE Andduvaeniany “TO DIR . INFO. CIE MEXI _— bE ce , . ‘ . bER RYBAT — oo A a; : Q 1. FOLLOWING IS Bxg$T TRANSLATION OF A TRANSCRIPT OF A ‘CONVERSATION IN SP ANISH BETWEEN PRESIDENT DORTICOS FROM. ‘HABANA AND AMBASSADOR JOAQUIN HERNANDEZ ARMAS IN MEXICO. AT 0924 HRS (MEXICO CITY TIME) ON 26 NOVEMBER. 2, SOURCE IS LIENVOY. 3. LITENSOR ALSO HAS SPANISH COPY, 4. PLEASE NOTE DORTICOS PREOCCUPATION OVER QUESTION OF MONEY. 7 5. TAPE BEING RETAINED. 6. FOLLOWING IS CONVERSATION: (Commo copy attached). END OF MSG COORDINATING OFFICERS AUTHENTICATING OFFICER CLASSIFICATION : ; RELEASING OFFICER OUTGOING tote ~ ~ ee em cw 53294 _Docla:32356652 Pa e :
ps oo a - . CLASSIFIED MESSAGE DATE: | Page 2. a SEGREF . . .- : - CLASSIFICATION _DEFERRED_ | | PRIORITY | OPERATIONAL | initiats | i | IMMEDIATE | INITIALS NUMBER ROUTINE 10 | INFO. CITE oe MEXL --%068&3-——— HERNANDEZ ARMAS: "LISTEN, I [ HAVE YOUR CONFIDENTIAL (REPORT) 125,. ABOUT THE ‘SRA. DURAN CASE AND I WANT TO ASK YOU FOR SOME DECLARATIONS ON THIS, ‘YOU: CAN: TELL ME IN DETAIL, " ‘HE ADDS "LISTEN. ee THAT'S TRUE... .OF BLACKMAIL, WHAT YOU SAY HERE IN THE. CONFIDENTIAL (REPORT), THE FEDERALS OF THAT COUNTRY WANTED SRA, SILVIA DURAN TO SAY SOME THING, THAT THEY HAD SOME INTEREST IN, AND HAD OFFERED SOME MONEY TO THE AMERICAN? (OSWALD). ——— oo oO . HERNANDEZ ARMAS REPLIED THAT "NO, NO, NOTHING ABOUT MCNEY, NO,'"' DORTICOS CONTINUED SPEAKING, "AND THEY TRIED TO DETAIN: ee HER, TO OBLIGE HER TO MAKE A STATEMENT." HERNANDEZ SAYS THAT "SHE WAS DETAINED, AND WAS QUESTIONED WITH RESPECT TO THIS VISIT AND THE REQUEST FOR A VISA, AND THEN SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD REQUESTED THE VISA, HAD FILLED OUT THE DOCUMENTS AND THE REPLY OF OUR GOVERNMENT HAD BEEN NEGATIVE, NOT GRANTING THE VISA," DORTICOS ASKED IF "YOU SPOKE WITH HER," HERNANDEZ SAID THAT YES, "I COULD TALK TO HER YESTERDAY AND I IMMEDIATELY SENT THE REPORT." IF ALL THIS IS TRUE, AUTHENTICATING OFFICER RELEASING OFFICER OUTGOING DeecWhsh0e MA Beye
HSTRes Audndanasst TO DEFERRED CLASSIFIED MESSAGE DATE: Oo 7 | —sEereT | FILE: ' Page 3. Sot ' . CLASSIFICATION a INITIALS NUMIEA PRIORITY OPERATIONAL INITIAL . IMMEDIATE ROUTINE INFO. : CITE ME XI-7068 NUMBER BETTER THAT IT BE KNOWN; IF SHE IS BEING DETAINED BY TH®SE PEOPLE, BETTER TOO;"" HERNANDEZ: I WAS SAYING THAT SHE WAS DETAINED SATURDAY AFTERNOON, AND FREED IN THE EARLY - MORNING, AND YESTERDAY WAS WHEN I FOUND HER AND COULD TALK > ‘WITH HER, SHE REFERRED ME (? ME REFIRIO) AND I TOOK ADVANTAGE - OF THE FACT THAT A PLANE WAS ABOUT TO LEAVE WITH OUR MAIL, DORTICOS: YES, YES, YOU SENT THAT, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOU SENT,..DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? THAT THE PAPER THAT I HAVE HERE, AND DON'T. TELL ME THAT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED? : HERNANDEZ: WHAT L HAVE JUST TOLD YOU BESIDES THE INTE RROGATION. DORTICOS: WHAT WAS IT THAT THEY ASKED YOU? HERNANDEZ: THEY ASKED HER CONCRETELY ABOUT WHETHER SHE KNEW THIS INDIVIDUAL; IF SHE HAD GONE TO THE CONSULATE; IF SHE HAD PERSONAL RELATIONS AND EVEN IF SHE HAD INTIMATE RELATIONS WITH HIM..SHE DENIED ALL THAT, ONLY... DORTICOS: INTIMATE RELATIONS WITH HIM? HERNANDEZ: YES; SHE DENIED ALL THAT AND SAID THAT IT WAS A ‘CASE LIKE ANY OTHER; OF THE MANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF CASES ; COORDINATING OFFICERS , AUTHENTICATING OFFICER CLASSIFICATION . RELEASING OFFICER , -  ' QUTGOING
MT: | Oo CLASSIFIED MESSAGE — pare: HSTR.: | SEGRE FILE: Page4.. - © ° "CLASSIFICATION | INITIALS NuMaAEN PRIORITY | OPERATIONAL IMMEDIATE DEFERRED INITIALS Agvuneunasd ROUTINE TO INFO, oO cite MEXI- 7068 “RUMBER NW 53294 DocId:32356652 Page 5 THAT COME TO REQUEST VISAS AT THE CONSULATE, AND IF SHE REMEMBERED IN DETAIL OF THIS CASE IT WAS BECAUSE THIS MAN HAD AN INCIDENT WITH OUR CONSUL. . -HE HAD AN INCIDENT IN WHICH OUR : CONSUL AZCUE REBUKED HIM AND PRACTICALLY THREW HIM OUT OF ‘THE CONSULATE, "DORTICOS: _AND WHY DOES SHE HAVE BRUISES (HEMATOMAS)? DID THEY TREAT HER BADLY? HERNANDEZ: WELL, YES, YES, ‘DORTICOS: WHAT DID THEY DO TO HER? HERNANDEZ: SHE HAS A FEW BRUISES ON THE ARMS BECAUSE SHE SAYS THEY SQUEEZED HER ARMS DURING THE INTERROGATION, -DORTICOS; WHAT WAS IT.. LAS SHE TOLD YOU ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE, HERNANDEZ: IN THIS WAY, PRESIDENTE, THEY WENT TO HER HOUSE AND TOOK HER TO THE STATION, TO THE OFFICE OF FEDERAL POLICE AND INTERROGATED HER TO THE EXTREME I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT, DORTICOS: AND THE MALTREATMENT, HOW WAS IT? HERNANDEZ: AT THE TIME OF INTERROGATION, TRYING TO IMPRESS HER SO THAT-SHE WOULD TELL ALL SHE HAD TO SAY, WHAT SHE KNEW AND THAT WAS WHEN THEY TOOK HER BY THE ARMS AND SHOOK HER, DORTICOS: LISTEN, JOARUIN AND COORDINATING OFFICERS 7 AUTHENTICATING OFFICER CLASSIFICATION . ‘RELEASING OFFICER TT SEO I I A OUTGOING |
ANZ AUANDADS (994° Docld:32356652 Page 6 | INITIALS NUMBER INFO, | CITE cS “NUMBER DID THEY ASK HER SOME OTHER QUESTION ABOI ? HERNANDEZ: 7 NO, NO ABSOLUTELY, IT SEEMS... DORTICOS: DID THEY TRY TOGETA ‘STATEMENT FROM HER? HERNANDEZ: NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY FROM WHAT. SHE TOLD ME THEY: LIMITED THEMSELVES PRINCIPALLY TO. TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT RELATIONS SHE HAD HAD AND HER HUSBAND WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL. DORIICOS: AND THEY SPOKE OF MONEY? HERNANDEZ: % NO, NO, SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY, THEY DID | L NOT TALK TORER ABOUT THAT, THAT IS, SHE HAS NOT TOLD ME THAT THEY SPOKE TO HER ABOUT THAT. DORTICOS: MIRABAL SAID TOA FRIEND SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, HERNANDEZ; EEH? WELL, 1 ASKED HER IF THERE HAD BEEN SOME INTEREST, IF THEY HAD QUESTIONED HER ON OTHER POINTS, IF THERE HAD BEEN SOMETHING ELSE, AND (SHE DID NOT SPEAK ABOUT THAT, DORTICOS: AT ANYRATE, QUESTION HER SOME MORE, INVESTIGATE MORE AND CALL ME HERE, HERNANDEZ: GOOD, PRESIDENTE, I WILL CALL YOU IMMEDIATELY. END OF MSG COORDINATING OFFICERS AUTHENTICATING OFFICER | CLESAMTCR HON _ -RELEMS Ma. Ger icer . OUTGOING © So