“1-125 1 ThatGis. why, I think, that he must have wanted it so that the file would show Lee Oswald and also Lee Henry 7 3 |. oswald. | | | | @ fo . oe | as ex Mx. Goldsmith. If ‘the Committee wanted to. verify wheth de hb it was standard procedure for Mr. Scott to indicate that a fille i it : H | : | should be opened under more. than one name, for him to indi~ | | ue cate that by writing down the word "sicj;.” I. presume that all 2N02" (202) $$u-29n5 i? | we would have to do-is to review cable traffic or routing C, A. ¢.| sheets to see if that was a matter of routine, he used that terminology, "sic" is that. not correct? | | . Ms. Goodpasture. You could if you wanted. PASIFEHOTON , -Mr.-Goldsmith, If, in fact, it turned out that asa to ~ “matter of routine he did not use the terminology "sic" ta . . refer to the opening of a file. “under more than one name, that 1g 4 might indicate, would it not: that Scott was. aware of oswaldts RESORTERS HEL LD TES | ig | true middle name? J, S i Ms, Goodpasture....I would not go so far as: to suggest 8 that. You could assume that you thought that he knew, but 13 | | | “if he knew it, we. certainly had no xecord: of it. to my kriowleade . i at the Mexico station. | ase) | Mr. Dodd, Let me step in here for. a second. Se 7 : a “> awd a2 Ms, Goodpasture., I do not think he knew ity: oe a Mr, Dodd. Let me ask you something, mat am,. What does > a "sic" mean to you, g-i-c? . 25 Ms, Goodpasture. “Tt was just saying that, the way it is | 001267 | i . eepngmen eas ‘HW 50955 Docld:32277224 Page 127 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC.
1-126 2 | Mr. Doda, What does "sic" mean to you? 3 i Ms « Goodpasture. A garbled version of a name. 4 : “Mr. Dodd, Not an aka? | 5 Ms. Goodpasture.. “No. . . 2 6 | Mr. Dodd. There is a distinction between an aka anda g, 7 sic? | é 3 | Ms. Goodpasture. ‘Yes . : 9 | Mr. Dodd. Are you telling this committee that it is {| 2 10 your personal Knowledge «= : E wy Ms .- Goodpasture. I am saying, sir, that I. think that. | $ 12 what he meant was that Lee oswald, because the first conversa- = 14 Mr. Dodd. ‘I understand, Let me. repeat what I think 2 13 | you are saying. Correct me if IT am wrong, | : 13 What you are telling us is that you have personal | 4 17 knowledge that the individual. that made that notation there, | 2 13 sic , aga result of your personal knowledge of this individual = ts ) he used those. words interchangeably all the time, even though | = 20 you know. .that those two words have ‘abfferent meanings, orn , wee those symbols have different meanings? _ | ae pee | Ms, Goodpasture. That ts not what. I mean to say. . : 7 Mr. Dedd. The record indicates that you. had some sort | © a4 af special Knowledge that this: individual used those symbols | 25 intexchangeably. | ; HW 50955 pocta:329#7908 Page 128 ALDERSON RESORTING COMPANY, INC. we
HW 50955 a : | : 1-127 Ms. Goodpasture. In the context of the way the name Lee Oswald came to our attention the first time, it was in dab such a way that we could not tell the man was saying his - | mw ns name was. Lee and Oswald, or: whether his name was Lee Oswald. das Mr. Dodd, What notation was made in that reference in the cable traffic when the transcripts -- what notation is ‘in parentheses? sa ‘Ms. Goodpasture, Pardon me? 20028 (202) S5u-24"5 MO S | Mr. Dodd, What notation was in parentheses in the _ : 10 | transcripts of the telephone conversations? - Does. the word 4 | | phonetic, does that strike a bell in parentheses, phonetic? s 2 Ms. Goodpasture. Phonetic, Lee Oswald. = 12 | When. thé transcript was first brought to me, the man | : 7 outside, as I. recall, said they. do not know if this man is : 7 Lee or whether it ts Oswald, ! : 7 Mx. Dodd, . rf théy indicated they did not.nderstand, | ! : 7 | what did they put in parentheses? > | 5 ai MS. Goodpasture. Before the action was taken on the : ie transcript, was taken to the transcriber who prepared an = € 2 English translation and on the basis of his English trans- i lation they feltcthat, the person who prepared the cable | 2 | felt, that the name was Lee Oswald, cs b Mr. Dodd. pid they not put phonetic? | Ms. Goodpasture, They put phonetic, ar Mr. Dodd. “They. did not put sic? | 001 265 ! . PU E u 4 Docld:32277224 Page 129 ALOERSOM REZSORTING COMPANY, INC.
1-128 , | | | | | “Ms. Goodpasture,. Meaning that they did not. know whether it was spelled Ozwald or Oswald, I guess. But I cannot be i. - gure, but the person who prepared the cable is here, Barbara be i 1 | nea. She might know. | | i try Mr... Dedd. Counsel and witness, I am going to have to | apologize to you one more time,’ This is one of the burdens ™ “of this institution. We have a. recorded vote again. We will 20024 (202) $54-2345 3 i} come right. Back. cd } (A brief recess was taken.) . | | | : a | Mr. Dodd, ‘Picking up where we left off at the time we | : 1 | took that recess, I. do not want to belabor this point with z vi you. How well did you know Mr, Scott? z ra Ms. Goodpasture. I did. not make myself clear. What . 2 1s) -T meant when Z answered his: question, I thought, T think, | é az : is that this refers te the fact that the first Lee Oswald that | Fa : = iS | we had was garbled, | ; | Mr... Goldsmith. ‘Where was that? . What are you talking | : 'S | about, on the transcripts or the conversation? | = oe Ms: Goodpasture. From the transcripts; yes, sir. : = zo | And we had never seen the name: printed and that thought what. — he meant that this Lee Henry Oswald file should have in it. : bZ 2 all thé information that we ‘had en the man with the name,’ | : 23 the garbled name, the Lee Oswald that. had come vp in the | 24 transcripts. : 25 ' ‘That was just my interpretation, I do not kriow, to . i i ! | | 91276 | HW 50955 pocla:329977224 Page 130 ALDERSON REPCATING TOMPANY, INC.
1-129 answer the question truthfully. ' | | | Mr. Dodds. i's Let us go back a little bit and, counsel, br 1 | will ask you to assist me on this, but in all of the trans- | | ceipes, was there any middle name or middle initial mentioned? 5 :| I. do not recall seeing any. | | 4 ‘| ae Mr. Goldsmith, ‘No, there was not. | g as 7 Mx. Dodd. “That does not explain thg letter or, the : 7 language "sic" by Henry, because they had never been any. J 9 | reference to a Henry ora Harvey. Z ; Ms . Goodpasture. That Henry, I think that was the . | E 1) | headquarters mistake. ‘This cable originated in headquarters | 3 12 that. we are looking at and this. is a copy of it as it was | © : 13 received ain. Mexico. a | | 5 1 The first time that we received the nameon Oswald and | : 13 | the traces it was Lee. Henry, and it was later that it became | = 1S | Lee Harvey. . | 4 7 | Mr; Dedd. ‘We are getting away from my point. If it | : =| were.a question about using a different name as you have | in - . . = 1? | properly described Aka, also known as, is the proper letter | S ® to are sn that ind of situation where a sic, as you have | ! see properly defined it, describes an entirely different. ! oO pee 3 | situation. — : i 7 . 7 Ms. Goodpasture, Right. | : @ 24 | Mr. Dodd, “My next question is, how well did you know | 23 Mr, Scott? Didyou krow him well? ‘ HW 50955  DocId:32277224 Page 131 ALDERSON REPORTING COMPANY, INC.