3 NO (44-2064) /sw | INFORMANTS CONTINUED - had never heard of him prior to November 24, 1963. _On November 25, * 1963, ‘SA JOHN. Vv; * HANLON: contacted NO'1233 Cc, a tavern ‘opérator. in “Monroe, ‘Louisiana, ‘who” | advised he’ “dia” not’ know: ‘RUBY and had never heard of him. before November 24, 1963. = ; | On November 25, 1963" SA” JAMES © FRANCIS” WRIGHT ‘Gontacted PCY HARVEY MILLER, Sulphur, Louisiana, “who frequents. ‘gambling © a -establishments. MILLER had never heard of RUDY prior to November __ 24, 1963. a “JFK Act 6 (4) On - » SA. RICHARD AL ~ SMALLWOOD contacted PCIs -a professional. gambler, MILTON © PONTIER, a bookmaker, THOMAS SKRNICH, a gambling club- Sperator, ‘and JOSEPH DAVID, an employee of: SKRNICH' S, all of Lafayette, Louisiana. These individuals advised they had never heard ‘of RUBY prior.to November 24, 1963, when they observed him on network television. “NO 1229. Cc, a professional bookmaker, Baton Rouge, ‘Louisiana, | advised ' SA EARL: R, PETERSEN on November 25, 1963, that he had never: heard of RUBY prior to November 24, 1963, when he’ had | seen the shooting of OSWALD by RUBY on television. Subsequently on this same date, this informant advised that he had contacted bookmakers | ANTHONY EUGENE NOLAN, TAFITA HANIE of Baton Rouge, "and they had not known: RUBY. SA PETERSEN also. contacted PCI. JOHN SERIO on. November 25, 1963,. SERIO. being an employee of - FRANK... LEO: VUCCI, another Baton Rouge bookmaker. ‘SERIO: had:. not - heard of: RUBY ‘prior to November : 24, . 1963. ° “SA "PETERSEN also contacted GEORGE LA RUSSA and. (CHARLES G. WALKER, bookmakers at the Candlelight Club in West. Baton Rouge Parish, ..Louisiana and these bookmakers had not heard of _ RUBY prior to. November 24, 1963. AA COVER PAGE HW 45653 DoclId: 327164131 Page 15
DL 44=1639 | The following investigation by Tampa Office: TP 94=-C advised he located address book dated from 1945-48, and noted name NATE GROSSMAN, 5046 N.. Troy St., Chicago, Ill. Source stated he is certain NATE GROSSMAN is identical to TINY GROSSMAN mentioned previously. Source now recalls meeting GROSSMAN in Chicago in 1948 or ‘1949, and GROSSMAN told him he had spent some time in prison and in same conversation mentioned Flagstaff, Ariz. Informant has hazy recollection that GROSSMAN arrested Flagstaff for Illinois authorities and probably did time in Statesville Prison, outside Chicago. Source now recalls GROSSMAN tended bar and lived in hotel above bar, located across the street from Croydan Hotel. Croydan located near Black Orchid Lounge, Chicago. Same source recalls RUBY at one time ran errands for one RAY LEWIS, a furrier, State Lake Building, 190 North State St.,.Chicago. LEWIS had a bookie operation on the side and resided Maryland Hotel, Rush and Delaware Streets, Chicago. Same source also recalls RUBY loitered about a barber shop run by one AL INDES at the corner, or near the corner of Clark’ Street, and Lake Street, Chicaga. “ZO £- Cover FEE HW 45653 DBocld:32164131 Page 16
co Rel DL 44-1639 TP 94-C advised 11/25/63 he knew RUBY in Chicago by reputation as ticket scalper along Rush Street and RUBY: would do anything for a buck. Source states. RUBY not known to hang around racketeers but recalIs one TINY GROSSMAN ,°a cab driver or bartender, Chicago, also a ticket scalper, was close friend of ‘RUBY. Souve's knowledge of RUBY dates from 1945 to 1948. Later, source heard GROSSMAN did time at Flagstaff, Ariz., for ticket scalping. Source also recalls one time RUBY badly beaten trying _ to qrash a fight progran, Comiskey Park. RUBY cropped out of sight in Chicago, 1948, no one missing him. - TP 11<¢ advised three years ago ‘AGVA . female entertainer complained to AGVA it was rough working in clubs in. Dallas. 4 ae ) -f f- | i Cover lice HW 45653 DBocld:32164131 Page 1?
DL 44~1639 The following informants who have access to gambling information in the Dallas area were contacted by SAs ROBERT M. BARRETT and IVAN D. LEE on the dates indicated: DL 170=C November 25, 1963 PCI LY. ART IN November 24, 1963... | Port Pee “November 26, 1963. JFK Act 6 (4) PCI MIKE LESCHETSKO November 25, 1963 PCI FRED MERRILL. November 26, 1963° DL.185=C-TE = “November 24, 25, 26, 1963 PcrI a P| eee November 25, 1963 a a November 25, 1963 DL aL November 25, 1963 None of the above informants had any information that JACK RUBY, aka. was involved in any gambling activities either: as a player, bookmaker or gambler, during the time he. has resided in Dallas area = approximately fifteen years. RUBY ‘was known to the above informants as the operator of the Carousel Club. or ‘Vegas. Club, in: Dallas. _ -Ss- Cover (age Re HW 45653 DBocld:32164131 Page 13