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In what manner?
Uh...tip
of the cone to the edge of the circular shapes.
The ball shapes.
Many
of them... like two or three
fastened to a single ball shape or multiple ball shapes
fastened
on
to one of the cone
tips.
I
don't... just
all variations.
I
don't know why.
All right.
At this time
I have no further questions
about the target area.
If there's anything you'd like
to add before leaving the target area,
please do
so
now.
I,
I
think maybe. .uh. .there's mostly refining work done
with special alloys.
I don't think the main components
are physically produced
in this building.
And,
that the
production
is important,
for some reason.
I
get
a
strong impression that the guts of the objects are made
here but not the intelligent parts of the object,
and
some
of them
I don't feel that way about.
I don't
understand why.
That's about
it.
0k.
Fine.
No further questions now.
Focus your
attention back
in the room here.
Move your arms;
move your legs,
and prepare
to draw.
Before
I draw any pictures there's something that
I
want to say,
and that has to
do with
the,
the..uh..
the target
in particular.
I
got
a really strong
impression that. .uh. .when
I was remote viewing this
target that
I was seeing alot of things
some
of
which were honestly remote viewed,
and some
of which
were remote viewed but don't appear to be honest to
me.
By that
I mean
that,
there's no question about
what
I was seeing being on the target,
but
I
got
a
strong feeling that alot
of what was on the target
that
I was seeing was not right.
0k.
It was like
it was fakery
of some sort.
On the target itself.
Like the target itself was being used to fake me
out.
While
I was seeing these things that were supposed
to be something,
they
in reality are not.
They're
fake.
They're not real.
I don't know how else to explain that.
I
feel like
what
I remote viewed is on the target but about
half of what
I remote viewed is not
real.
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Ok.
You have
a feel for the individual items and
things which gave you that sensation?
Yeah.
I
kept getting the feeling about these shielded
type objects and
it was like. .uh. .1 was getting...
was imagining walking up
to one and putting my hands
flat
on the side and saying.. you know.. what feeling
do
I
get,
and
I was getting
a feeling like... I was
getting two feelings.
The first feeling
I was getting
was this,
this machine,
this engine,
this powerful
machine,
or engine being inside the shield,
and at
the same time
I was getting
a feeling that the shield
was empty.
You
know.
It was
so like
a half-an-half
feeling and
I
don't,
I don't really know how to
explain that.
It was almost like gestalticly
I was
supposed to get this feeling but in reality that's
not there,
you
know.
I also got the feeling there was an implied production
level.
It wasn't there.
You
know.
Like
it was far,
far less than what
it should be,
and one would assume
100 percent production.
When,
in fact,
there was a
very deliberate and real 40 percent production.
I don't
you know... I don't understand that feeling either.
You know,
it's like alot
of push-pull type feelings.
I didn't know whether
I was being pushed
or pulled
but
I
just wanted
to say that before we draw what's
at the target.
0k.
That's good.
Good that you said
it.
This is
very interesting.
As you
go through your sketches
then when you have that feeling again that you can
relate
to an item that you're sketching at that
point
in the tape will you mention
it one more time
so we have it altogether.
Yeah.
0k.
I've taken some rather copious notes.
0k.
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1.
Do you want a sketch of the exterior
doors?
#10.5:
That won't be necessary,
with the
We can probably start off
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Uh...just that these trucks,
on the
left,
it's
almost like an interior truck park.
There's more
than one truck.
0k.
What is your feel for the number
of vehicles...
individual vehicles in that area?
I'm not trying
to
pin you down
to
a number,
but
(mumbling)
a large
number,
a small number,
a medium number
I'm trying to put
a frame of reference on what my
large,
medium and small would be.
Uh
I
get
an
impression that there are less than 25 trucks.
Less
than 25 trucks,
but that
is
a smaller number than
would normally be there.
It's
a medium number compared to
what would normally be
there.
Like
I
said earlier,
there's
this reduction
in production for some reason.
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2.
I
had
an impression of a... like
a suspended
ceiling with an oval hole in
it and your support
sections going
up through
it,
and. .uh. .1 'm not...
I
don't know whether
or not
it would be important to
sketch that or not.
It's up to you.
If you want that
Why don't you
do
a quick relationship for that...
is what
it would
do with the systems
..(mumbling)
This,
this over here being the elongated section
of
the loading ramp... back side... that sort
of affect...
tracks coming here... I
got impression.
. .looking
at
it from that direction that there was.
.
. .a.
. .like
a
support thing that went up through an oval
in the ceiling.,
and that there was some kind of a... this kind
of affect
ramp type thing that came down,
like this..... I don't
know exactly how to describe that.
This was ceiling
and
.
.
. .uh.
. .that above this ceiling this thing just
kept right
on going to the rest of the ceiling and
that there was
a
up here was a.... I don't know
a more refined working area.
By that
I mean
a cleaner
area,
tools were more sophisticated,
machines were
more sophisticated.
That kind
of thing.
And,
back
here was the door.
Let me throw one thing
in here.
You mentioned wire
cage
Yeah.
The wire cage was somewhere right
in here.
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OK.
#01:
I
don't know what that was.
It looked like
a real
delicately built wire
cage.
#10.5:
Did you have any feel
or impression,
more detailed
impression for the activity
on the second level?
Any imagery associated with
the activity
there.
#01:
Just.
. .uh.
. .1
guess
I should clarify what
I
mean
by refined work.
Uh...it's sort of
like.
. .uh.
. .you
have some other place.
. .uh.
. .stamped out rough metal
part and they send it over to this building,
and then
in this building they polish the exterior
of the metal.
They drill the holes;
they put
in the... they tap in the
screw threading.
. .uh.
. .they engrave the necessary channels,
or whatever,
on
o the metal.
They check
it for
flaws.
That's what
I mean.
That's the kind
of work that's
going on here.
You know.
Connect things together.
Ensure that the appropriate alloys are used in different
components,
parts,
and things.
#10.5:
0k.
Uh.
. .for
3,
what
I would like to
do,
if you would
please,
is
if we could examine
the relationship between
the peculiar wheeled vehicle that you've sketched
in
1,
and the shielded objects,
and the shields,
the combina-
tion shielded objects and shields.
If you'd.
. .uh.
.
#01:
0k.
I
got an impression that this vehicle had... like
a
...this kind
of
a window with some kind
of grill
in here,
like
this.
There was... like
a large bumper that came
around like this.
This cab went back sort of like this
in some way,
and that this shielded type thing set right
here on
the
side,
and went back like this... and,
there
was some kind of
a...
don't know what to call it.....
like a cherry picker
type device that
laid
along side
of here,
and,
there was like.
. .uh.
. .this went back like
that.
#10.5:
May
I
compliment you on your outstanding sketching
there.
That's
I wish
I could draw that good.
#01:
Right.
I
got
a feeling like ...you koowiii .this
is the
truck,
and it comes back and there is this large
double wheel back here in the back.
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And,
that this.
. .uh.
. .doesn't just
lay on here,
ok.
There's some kind
of
a thing that comes down like this
across the
top.
You
know.
It goes down the side.
And,
there's alot
of other things
in here on this
vehicle that are far more complicated.
Too complica-
ted for me
to draw,
anyway.
And,
that this whole mess
is loaded onto
a flat rail
car. ... .after it's shrouded.,
truck and everything
is covered with
a shroud.
And.
. .uh.
. .these are... what did
I
say... some of them
are shielded objects and some
of them are shielded
shields.
Now,
let me ask you now the size and proportions
of
the sketch
in
3.
The vehicle and the associated shielded
objects
or shields,
and shields.
Am
I
right
in
:
presuming that all shields are of
the same proportion?
Yes.
They're all exactly identical.
And...uh...
Let's start with
the.
. .uh.
. .the base vehicle itself.
Well,
I'm going to start by putting
a stick figure on
the vehicle,
ok.
And,
I would say that this
is probably
in length
in the neighborhood of
55 to 60 feet,
and
the vehicle,
itself,
in width,
is probably .. .uh.
.
feet.
The actual shielded object or shield object,
is.
. .uh.
. .probably
in the neighborhood
of 40
or 45 feet.
And,
its width is probably around
5 feet.... 6 feet.
Tall
the shielded object's just
a little bit taller
than
the cab
roof,
and the cab roof
is
13,
14 feet
from ground level.
0k.
When you were working this imagery did you see
in your imagery
a human figure associated with
the
vehicle.
You mean somebody standing around
it... by
it?
Yes.
Did you have related imagery such
as that?
Oh!
Yeah.
There was people all around this area,
but
I
got
a feeling like
in order
to do 100 percent
production you would have
300 people
in this big bay.
In this particular case there was more like
140 people
in
the
bay.
You
know.
. .just
a very reduced level....
What
I'm getting at
is that you did have
a direct
association between magnitude
of the vehicle and
human
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Oh!
Yeah.
People,
people climbing on
the vehicle.
Certainly.
All right.
Have you ever seen
a vehicle like this
before
in any
of your previous activities
or analytical
work
of any
of that type?
Or does it resemble anything
that you've seen before?
It seems
I'm not,
I'm not searching.
I'm
just asking you for
the record,
is what I'm doing,
so
No.... this,
ok,
this side,
this cab side of the vehicle,
ok,
for some reason
is familiar to me.
0k.
You're referring to the off-set cab.
Yeah.
The off-set.
. .the driver's,
the driver's space,
if you will,
you know,
the cab portion
of the vehicle,
and,
I
don't know why.
I might have seen
it somewhere
or
it might hold strong resemblance to a... some kind
of
a heavy duty cherry picker type vehicle,
but,
I certainly
don't remember this part.
The vehicle,
you know.
The
large off-set dual wheels and the front wheels.
0k.
One last question then
on this,
and,
again,
I'm
trying
to establish relationship between the shielded
object situation,
and the peculiar carrying vehicle......
or the unique,
not peculiar,
the unique carrying vehicle
that you've seen
it located
on.
Uh...what
is the
relationship there?
Do
...are there.
. .well,
are there
feelings of....
Like one can
' t
go
can
one
go without
the other,
is what you're saying?
Right.
What type
of functional interaction,
feeling
for connectiveness
or nonconnectiveness.
. .uh.
.
.
integrated
or nonintegrated type
of systems that you
may have picked up.
I. ,uh.
. .1
got
a feeling that the vehicle
that the vehicle was specifically designed
to carry
this shielded device,
whatever
it
is,
or this shield
type structure,
if that's what it
is.
But,
itjs not
necessary.
Like there's
a dual
role.
Like this
shielded thing... or this shield type...uh..
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