Approved For Release 20 +62 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 Approved For Release 2 96-00788R000200010003-7 I wanted to put.a (mumbling) cap on him. The flip up classic..uh..ear flaps and everything. PAUSE I have no further questions about this target. Now, I would like to give you the opportunity to add anything that you would like to add. PAUSE I don't have anything. All right. I'd like you now to draw the perceptions that you have had. Ok. The first thing I had was a image of some sort of an entrance way ...that is what I called an. overpass or underpass. It's like a drive through place. Doing this in magic-marker so 1 don'teseveae Ok. It was like the building wall. The little black square here is the underpass thing. Like that. Ok. What we end up with...the roof line... here..the thing that was so hard to describe is.. you know what McDonald's roof line looks like... it's a roof line like that. Ok. It jets out.. vertical...has these lines into here that I'm drawing in. Ok. Then, it goes around the dam corner. This is sort of a quasi aerial view over here. Ok. This is the first view I had. And, it's got this slated exterior. At least the place I was had it. Like that. Ok. This thing goes on. Now, here is thething that I referred to as being the overpass. We'll bring it into here. Ok. And the building goes off like that. And this is this building here, which I have the feeling ig in a hillside, ok, but dug back in a hillside. I'll do it....--all right. So here is the overhang continues on.....and this separate thing....which is a separate building thing...--and there is...-.. my first impression was that it was a solid flanking piece, ok. Like that. The term OVeETPacSe+eers is this thing here. that we generally use to be something that goes over a highway or freeway. You use that word now to describe an area that is sheltered..-cecee P96-00788R000200010003-7
#31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 Approved For Release 2000/03/0 )P96-00788R000200010003-7 ... but opened. But opened. Passed through. Instead of an overpass, it's like an underpass. But, I used the first word that came into my head. You know. Because I was just getting on target. Sure. Ok. It's an open space but covered over the top. Right. Inside of a building or structure of some kind. I'11 do another view of that. Ok. Draw me an arrow there to show that...where that black thing is...that kind of like an entrance to the building o©... Right. I had the feeling it was like opened all the time. It's just a hole in the wall. You ean go right through it any time of the day. I didn't get the feeling that there was any kind of a thing that closed it off or anything. It's like two separate buildings connected by a roof. That's all. That's what I'm trying to talk about by overpass. Ok. Entrance, and I'll call it overpass in quotations for correlation to the tape. All right. It looks like this on 2. Taken from the direction of the arrow it would look like this. Actually, those things should go to the other side. Those are the slats, ok. This goes over here. That's that funny....+-God there was really a weird rivulated roof....--if I can describe it as rivulated. It was like eroded. It was like the roof line had grooves in that were vertical. Ok. Like this. All right. And, then here into the present foreground is that, ok. And, there's a recline along there like that. This building just disappeats into the distance all the way back. Ok. That's the right building here, just disappears into the distance and here in the foreground, left, is the other building, ok. So, draw me an arrow that says I'm Looking down entrance way, oF something..«+eee> Nad” gta RE P96-00788R00020001 0003-7
_ Approved For Release ale afi BOP 96-00788R000200010003-7 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 66 #31 Looking under a (mumbling). Now, this thing is... the darkness...1'1l draw the darkness with a shadow. Unfortunately, this is only really two dimensional here, and it shouldn't have been. Uh..it's shadovy in under there because it's in...-. How large is this? This is the 35 to 40 feet across thing. Ok. 1 can drive in there as opposed to walking. Right and this is the right building...looking... I want to call this...looking between two buildings under the underpass...for lack of a better word.. ok.. Now, 3. Let's say | moved in a little bit closer in under this overhang. Oh, Wait a minute. There's one thing I want to put on..and this is the ...this lattice shingle feeling of the wall, ok.. and here's all shingle feeling of the wall..like this..and..that..you know..I had the feeling you could..like see the overhanging pieces Of weoece the overlaping pieces of wood along the edge of the building. Like that. You know how you lay one and you lay another piece of wood on top of it. Is that lap work? Well, it's not lap work. It's just normal wood construction. You know. 50 that the water doesn't fall in the crack. It runs off. It doesn't fall in the crack. Ok. Overlaping wood piece. Right. Wood construction. Wood siding. Overlaping wood siding. I guess. All right. Moving into close and in under this overhang is this feeling on the left side here. I'll draw a cut-away. On the left side is this overhang, ok. It's got these funny rivulets in it. Rivulet shape. Then here's the wall. Like that. All the way down. This is ..-eyou know....-and here is....l had the feeling it was just a standard 2 by 4. frame piece of wood and looking inside this sucker now, this disappears off into the horizon. Ok. Drawing this thing is really weird. It's just a bare wall. It's like ...L remember....1 said there's nothing around it. 2.26 -00788R000200010003-7
#31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 Approved For Release 20 #86 -00788R000200010003-7 it's just like somebody took a buzz saw, built a housee.+..a wooden house...and took a buzz saw and cut a big hole in the wall. You know. You're standing there and here's this raw wood, I mean there's no molding there's no nothing there. It's just raw wood. You're just looking at this raw wooden edge and, that's when I got the feeling that this thing was covering something. It wasn't a permanent type of. building, concrete and cement, or anything like that. That it was just this wooden frame building that had been constructed to cover something, and this thing here was this large bay which is down here on the left of two, ok. Which, when 1 first looked at it was just open. I had this feeling of open darkness back in there, ok. So number 3 is looking....looking to the left ...inside the overpass, ok. This is the edge of the wall. About how long this passageway continues? This covered passageway. About how long is it? On one it's not very big. So going back to one to answer your question I'll say that this is maybe 60 feet, ok. This area in here then becomes open. That is open, right. That is open area in there. And, how long are the buildings themselves? Well, I didn't get a feeling. I can show you an aerial of the building. 1! had the feeling at the top of one, this building that seemed to go off on the back of the hillside and was almost dug into the back of the hillside is this feeling...-Very, very close to the back of this hill and skinny. You know. It was abnormally skinny. It was as though there was more of it hidden away from my sight because it was only a little skinny thing... that was the thing that was a couple of hundred meters long....that's the thing that felt to be real big, real big. When I was first going into iteeseeL'1l depart now..-.ok, just for a minute. When I was first going into it....four: is my second impression. These things came later. Two and three came later. Four is my second impression of this weird magical overhang building edge. ArRD P96-00788R000200010003-7
#31 #66 31 #66 #31 #66 #1 Approved For Release 2000/04 et AAP 96-00788R000200010003-7 Overhang there. Way down into the distance there is overhang and here is building coming back into the foreground. Like this. I had the feeling that the building on. ....-appendage..-.the one away from the hillside is shorter than the one along the hillside. So I'll show it like this. And, this is the overpass seen from different....seen from other end not different end....other end. Like that. So, you're telling me then if I went...when I go.. if I was to zip way down.the other end of this and turn around and look back that's what I'd see. Absolutely. If you were. to go to the far left end of sketch one and look then you would see this type of a view. These two buildings never come together again down there. No, no. They're opposite all the way down. Tell me a little bit more about this...this thing that's close to the mountain. Can you tell me whether or not it is part of the mountain or is not part of the mountain? PAUSE I don't know. I'11 tell you one thing about it that's not voiced on the tape. That is when I was about in the situation of viewing the sketch two, and as I moved in under in order to go to sketch three, ok, I had the distinct feeling that the long skinny building to my right turned into a loading dock, ok. A covered loading dock. I had the feeling of a..that it was. that it was a platform in there....was platform and wood holding up the risers, you know...wooden posts. So I'll draw that. I was going to draw that as a different...in other words, here...that this was a .e.L don't know how to describe it...that had a dock on it. Is what I mean. I was going to include but, I'm only talking about where I was, what time. This feeling here. Ok, here. Let me see...let me draw 5. This thing became very big. That's our overpass..oh, our overhanging roof ...ok.. It's not a simple box. That's the problem. The front face of the building became that type of a shape. Having a dock on it, like that. See. I didn't want to put railroad tracks or anything driving in under this ...you know... .moving.-..Or road....-anything. So Il didn't. As far as I'm '96-00788R000200010003-7