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REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION DC-36
TIME
#66:
This will be
a remote viewing session
for 0900 hours,
9 December
1980.
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#07:
#66
:
#07:
#66:
SG1A
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PAUSE
Relax and concentrate now.
on
I
Relax and focus your attention
Join now with
and
c
surroundings
to
me.
|
j
Move to
| surroundings to
me.
and describe
PAUSE
I've got
.on
a small.
. .bed. .. .facing away from me...
facing the wan 777 ..
Seems
to
be sleeping
in his tee shirt...
depressed...
I
tried. .. getting his attention. .. .he doesn't
respond...
So
I tried to... feel
like
I was him and see...
and think what
he thinks...
It was very depressing.
. .not
what
I expected
did
1 1 .. .thoughts didn't seem important...
I, uh....seem to be small
room.
. .facing
on
a courtyard...
Walls
in courtyard very tall...
Okay.
I
didn't see any bars.
I'm going back.
in
That's
fine.
Now,
it
isn't necessary
to talk
to
the present
time.
Let him sleep and relax,
it's not nece-
ssary to talk to him at
the present
time.
As
you
go back
now think only of
I
I sav in your mind over and over again
Fix your mind solely
and com-
J solely and completely
on
pletely on
you
are free to move with
time.
Now you
are free to move withf
space and time.
Now
th rough all
space and
jirouqh
all
has
been receiving
ari a communicating using code ana raaio.
Move
now with
I
| through all space and time,
move with
through all space and time to
the target point,
the
:arget point,
that
one point
in space and time when
reveals the
code.
and time when
ove now to that one point
in
al
(reveals the code.
Go now with
space
PAUSE
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#07:
Strange thing happened here....
I somehow or another got
him got,
found .. .found
I was moving around with him somewhere
else...
I
got him to thinking about
it.
I
lost track of him
and
I
found myself
in Egypt. . .looking at hieroglyphics.
I... found myself tryin'
to understand that and
I
realized
I
was analyzing,
I... backed off and
it disappeared...
And
I
came back and... tried to convince him that
if he... just allowed
himself
to think about
it... that he would have friends that
would
help him... go home...
Three times.
. .three times
I
got
to
the
point where
I
said,
I
said,
"Oh,
yeah,
I,
I
see,
I
see,
I
see."
Then all of
a sudden
I .. .would find myself saying,
"Where am
I?
What am
I
doing?"
I'd just
lose it...
I
get
so close
I
think "Well,
gee,
I understand.
I,
I,
I
I
got it."
I
completely lose everything.
I
don't know how much time lapsed between .. .discovery and
awareness. .. .discovery .. .of
a partial solution
and.
. .awareness
that
I
don't
know where
I
am.
Just wanted to get rid of that
so
I
could
go back and... see if
I could break through this.
#66:
All right.
#07:
It's almost like
I... like
I
know and
I... and
I
forgot.
#66:
All
right,
that's
fine.
You're doing very well.
Remember
that you are going to
that
point
in space time where he
reveals
it.
All you have to report
is what goes
on at
the
time when he reveals the code.
You need not be active
in
any
way.
All you have
to do
is report.
Go now
to that point
in
space and time when he reveals the code.
All you have
to
do
is report.
PAUSE
#07:
I
got something but
I wanna
go back... go back...
#66:
I will wait... I will wait.
#07:
Confirmation...
PAUSE
#07:
Something
about. .. .it's real dumb
(mumbling)...
I
saw just
a
jjiilioni,
uh...ones and zeros...
Eighty
to
ninety percent of
it... was pure
garbage,
just. .. .discard
it
automatically .. .but certain sequential combinations
of ones
and zeros. .. identify the position uuhhh,
of
a... of
a combin-
ation...
This has significance...
All other
data has no
meaning
I'm seeing this on
a blackboard...
Damn!
It's
a whole batch
of,
uh...ones and zeros...
Certain predetermined sequential...
combinations identify other sequential numbers
that...
convey information
identified
identified numbers...
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are not necessarily.
. .read
in sequence..,..
The numbers that
a predetermined sequential positions.
. .identify also the
position ... the sequential position.
. .of the word
It's
so darn simple....! can't believe this.
.
.
Only certain
groups of numbers.
. .out
of
a whole. ..a sequential
collection
of numbers have meaning, . .and their. . .their position and
sequence are identified by. ..by the numbers
in the predeter-
mined positions. .. in the sequence...
Example...
If there are
a thousand words.
. .maybe
the second,
ten,
fourteenth,
fiftieth,
seventy-first
today .. .identifies
where other words
of significance are located and the long
series of numbers.
Further,
the meaning of those numbers are
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,
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#66 :
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#07:
#66
#07
#66
#07
All
right.
Explain to me again how the numbers or words are
not,
the meanings are not stabilized.
For example:
two,
three,
four,
six.. .does not always.
. .mean
the same thing...
That's
one part
I
don't understand...
I
can see that it's done and how it's done,
but... I
don't
know how that meaning
is arrived at.
Okay.
You say the-
Program....
I'm sorry.
Did you ask a question?
I'm interested
in what you were saying...
If
5 thousand binary numbers are dumped... on a certain
day,
date.
. .certain numbers
in
the sequence identifies other
sequential positions.
. .that contain the message...
The
ini-
tial identifier... not
only identifies
the. .. .position
of
that.
. .number ,
word
if you will,
but identifies it's rela-
tive position
in the message...
It's sequential,
the word
in the sequential position
in the data dump... is not necess-
arily
in
the same sequence that the word would occur
in
the
message.
.
.
In trying
to break the number code... all
of the other numbers
not used appear as pertinent
data.
. .appear
as words,
but
in
fact
are not used...
#66:
This original set
of numbers which tells us the position
of
the other relevant numbers,
how
do
I
locate those particular
numbers?
Those very first numbers which tell me the positions
of the other numbers.
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#07:
There's that calculator computer thing. ..
You put
in certain
data and, ..it tells you.
. .the sequence for
a given date
I'm seeing
so. ..so many ones and zeros
I can 't see.
. .where
one number... one number quits and...
#66:
Okay.
#07:
...
other one starts.
I don't know
if it's important
or
not.
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