Approved For Release 200
-Q0Z88R000600630001 -7
1130
#66
:
#31:
+05
Relax and concentrate now.
Relax now and focus your
attention
on
the target pass indicated to you
on the
map,
which
I have shown
you.
Focus on the target pass...
and describe the pass to me.....
I'm getting
a... large granite
type boulders with.. off on the
right...
Man sized,
body size,
bigger,
humble-jumble,
like
a moon scape...
(Mumble)..!
see
the,
uh. .uh. . .the
,
uh,
right side
is sorta sloping up to the mountain.
The top
with the left side seems
to be more. ..the word escarpment came
into mind.
Like
a flat top mountain
on the
left.
And
the
trail through
is,
uh.. around the foot of the,
uh,
flat
top
mountain.
The road
is offset
on the flat top side.. to the
flat top side.
It's
a pved
road,
about,
uh...it's
tar,
and it's about three inches thick.
The
tar,
uh..lays
in
a thick blanket and it's about,
uh...I wanna say like 20
feet wide.
And
I have
a feeling
of,
uh.. lorries,
uh.. coming up the hill..
+07
Occasionally the traffic
is all toward the way
I'm looking.
Towards
me,
the way I'm looking..
The feeling of a.. infre-
quent,
uh,
right now infrequent,
uh,
ramshackle blunt nosed
military lorries.
Like
one or two
a day
is all....
#66:
Tell me some more about this traffic
+08
#31:
+09
#66 :
They... back of the,
uh,
trucks are,
uh,
open and they have
poles that stick up.
You can see
in between
the sideboards
and the poles...
They're light truck,
like
a ton and
a half.
They appear only to have
a single wheel
in the back.
Almost
. .another feeling
I had was like,
uh,
the way they..
a
truck becomes
a taxi
in
a backwards country that's piled high
with people.
Describe these people
to me.
#31:
Well,
I'm getting two different feelings.
One like there
is
sporadic,
uh.
. .civilian use of the pass,
but the trucks
I
see are all the same.
Civilians have. .dressed
in
like sack
cloth,
heavy burlap sacking.
#66:
I understand.
You call them civilians because of their
dress?
#31:
Yeah.
They're heavy gray sack cloth capes.. capes
on the top
and
a baggy,
uh,
baggy between the
legs,
like it's
a robe
that's
like caught up or something.
And sometimes baggy
pants.
#66:
All right.
#31:
Feeling of sandals,
weathered,
hard-calloused feet.
Very,
uh,
very hard and calloused feet,
brutally calloused.
Hard,
Approved For Release 2«
m
|4-KUU9WJ0788R000600630001 -7
Approved For Release 2000jia^&C£L£&{2OiQ^^
+11
+13
+15
+18
#31:
they're almost like leather soles
on the man's
feet.
But then my other feeling is seeing an occasional like.,
vehidle patrol
is.. troops in the back.
The troops wear
a
sandy brown uniform. J<haki brou/n uniform.
Where the truck
with the feeling
is civilians
is
like humble-jumble,
ram-
shackle feeling.
Not ramshackle truck but this undisciplined
splaying arms and
legs and rabble goes
by.
But the other
feeling
is
one of quiet,
small number,
not
a patrol.
I'm
trying to recall my memory.
The feeling was
a small replace-
ment for
a outpost
or
a detachment
in the truck.
And there
were two of those.. two trucks.
Uh,
an outpost replacement
crew
or something like that.
Not
a motorized patrol,
but
rather
a replacement.
#66:
All right.
#31:
And
I
don't know if they were,
they musta been military,
but
there was this more quiet,
sedate,
disciplined,
and they were
all sitting down
in the back of
a truck. . .along the walls
in
a regular army fashion
like.
Pull-down benches
or something.
#66:
Okay,
I would like to ask a particular question now...
I'd
like to see
if new imagery develops based
on guidance here.
So listen carefully now,
and see
if any new imagery comes to
mind.
Focusing now on the target pass,
focusing solely and
completely
on the target pass,
expand your time window to
a
30 day period,
expand your time window
to
a 30 day period,
and scan through
time for activity
of critical interest to
the intelligence mission.
#31:
Feeling
of
a. ..the,
uh,
the feeling
of the sneakiness
of
a
group
of tanks that have gone by.
Sneakiness,
like... I
saw
a tank right at the very beginning when you started to talk
and it was
like
lone.
But.. considering 30 days
I think it's
already happened and the happening
is
a string
of tanks about,
I don't know if it's repetitive,
but at
least
one string of
five tanks seems to have already gone
over the pass and thejr
movement over the pass was sneaky,
it was surreptitious,
un-
announced and nobody talks about
it.
They snuck out front.,
they snuck out front through the pass.
Going
on
the right
from the right side to the
left side on
the map.
I
get the
feeling they're gone from,
uh,
the Chinese side to the Af-
ghanistani side.
In that direction.
I think that the way
I'm looking
is
I'm looking back towards the Chinese side.
That appears
to be
my ... .direction
of view,
with the escarp-
ment
on the left and the regular mountain
on the right.
#66 :
Okay
.
#31:
The.. I don't-
I can't get any resolution
on what kind
or what
type,
but this feeling of low,
dark,
menacing tanking,
tank,
clank,
clank,
clanking.
. like they snuck over-
I think that's
the main thing
is that they snuck over and are already through,
in like forward positions and now they're just hidden over
Approved For Release 2
88R000600630001 -7
Approved For Release 200Q4A
900ROOO6OO63OOO1 -7
#31:
#66 :
#31:
+20
#66 :
#31:
#66 :
#31:
#66
:
#31:
+26
#66
:
#31:
there.
They're not doing anything.
They're just hidden
over there.
They're sort
of like,
urn,
for safety's sake
we'll put a couple out there and sneak
'em in......
Describe the condition
of the tannks to me...
They were,
urn..
Condition of the tanks.
They were,
uh..
older,
they were used. .used.
They weren't like brand new,
but they were,
uh,
well-maintained.
Like they were advance
guard of
a crack,
uh,
armored unit
or something.
They had
their act together.
They,
uh,
but they were like maybe 10
or
15 year old equipment...
Describe the personnel associated with the tanks
He wears
a. ..I'm getting this,
uh,
wide-faced,
uh,
Oriental
face.
Deep,
uh,
complexion.
Oriental face.
The feeing
of
a.. some blockey kind of headdress
on him.
But
I
guess
that
a.. I
guess that's his earphones
or something.
I see this
guy,
he's obviously Oriental,
but Mongol,
but
if he wears-
I
know what
you want and
I'm lookin'
for.
Feeling
I had was
a-
That's
fine.
Just relax and concentrate.
Maybe you can take
a look at several of the personnel.
Just relax.
I will wait
for the information
I
get this
dar,
uh,
brown uniform.
My first flash was jack
boots,
dark brown uniform,
and Sam Brown belt.
The brown
is
darker than
the brown khaki.. of our TW's.
It's darker than
that.
Almost earthen brown
Urn,
another flash
I got was because of the altitude.
It
is
cold,
and there
is
a cold weather gear and
I
felt the,
uh,
the padded,
uh,
quilt jacket type feeling of the Chinese.
And
a heavy furry thing of a.. a winter cap. .......
Okay.
Now,
looking at your 30 day
time window you have ex-
plained you've seen some activity
on
this pass concerning
tanks.
You expressed
an impression that this was
in the past.
It's about seven days ago....
I'd say seven
to ten days
ago.
All right.
Describe the present location
of the
tanks,
the
present location of the tanks.
They are,
urn,
on
the map
I'm about
a half inch down and to the
right
of the pass marker.
On the ground
I
am,
uh,
feeling of
where they are, where
I
am now
is
I'm down maybe
15 miles
below the pass.
I'm down out of the mountain,
but
I'm guard-
ing the reaches to the mountain,
to my back are the mountain.
And the road..! had
this shot of them lagerred in,
dug
in,
uh,
feeling that they were dug in and
in
a defensive position.
This feeling that
the purpose was to protect that pass,
or be
Approved For Release 200g^^^^|©6;00788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 2OOO/O«^^0^^ap2a&Bat)O6OO63OOO1-'/
+32
#31:
a trip wire to the
pass.
And that they
u/ere
out there
about
10 or
15 miles
out from the pass.
I
f m tryin'
to get
a good focus
on where they are.
I have this feeling of
spreadoutedness and straddling
a road and everything,
but
I
can't tell if they're. .still
a sage brush area,
the high
alp- uh,
I'm still getting
a high,
above tree line barren-
ness rocky..
No,
it's not trees like our mountains are nice
and beautiful,
this
is very scraggly and rugged,
barren.
These,
uh,
guys are,
urn,
in
a.. had them in hasty positions
that they're upgrading constantly,
'cause
I see
a guy outside.
He's digging and picking shoveling,
preparing
the berm
in
front of his vehicle.
So they're slowly,
methodically dig-
ging
in,
but they're started out
in hasty positions....
The road,
uh,
looks
like,
the road goes down
a path and makes
one really massive major switchback.
It does
a 180 almost
and goes way back and then
it does another 180 and goes way
down.
And
it seems that they're below that maybe four or
five miles and that switchback might be another intermediate
mountain,
but lower
than the pass.
I had
the feeling that
a
switchback might
be
a second mountain
in the way.
But that's
the major switchback.
I'm not talkin'
about
the little shit.
#66:
Take
a look at the road surface again and describe
it
to me.
#31:
Well,
I never had
a road here.
They are astride the
road,
but
there's no road.
If that's what you mean.
There's-
I hadn't
realized it but there's no road here,
but there
is
a road-
they are astride the road,
like it's
a gravel track now.
Uh,
I think it's
a defined place.
But
it doesn't seem to be.,
they are like
on
the- oh,
how do you call it?
They're like
out on the frontier.
The road has given
out and now there's
nothin'
but dirt and gravel track.
It's cleared and it's
graded and it's maintained by work gang,
but
I don't get
that feeling
of
a three inch thick heavy asphalt formal road
that
I had before.
#66:
Go
on,
follow
the road back to the pass and see
if
it stays
the same or changes.
Follow it right on back.
See what
happens.
#31:
Well
I
do,
I
get the feeling that
it changes somewhere,
urn...
Had this really weird feeling that somewhere
in between
is
a high bridge.
Somewhere along the road maybe between the
pass and where these people are.
I
had this feeling of look-
ing up at
a,
uh,
some sort of
a
key bridge or structure
on
the road surface.
Not
a trestle,
but like
a railroad type
structure bridge.
Some deep. .narrow,
but very deep cleft
type thing.. that
a bridge spanned
of maybe 65
or 70 feet.
The
feeling was that that's where
the road turned back into
tar.
Or
that,
depending
on the way you looked at
it,
that's where
the tar ran out was on the other- on the outside,
the outer
side,
the away side of that bridge.
Approved For Release 20
5TO788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 2000/0
(^g^^^^^^p788R000600630001-7
Okay.
Now
I
have no further questions about the target
area,
but
I would like to provide you
a few minutes now to
comment
on your own,
as you examine the target.
PAUSE
The feeling of the vehicular soldiers were not carrying
weapons.
Possibility they are
a rotation crew.....
The terrain is all essentially the same
out here,
it's hard
to tell where you are...
All looks
the same..
PAUSE
The tanks came from a place.. on
the east side
of the mountains,
just before the main north-south road.
There's
a kaserne
in
there.. just before that city,
at the intersection.
I'll show
you
on
the map later.
The feeling is that
the kaserne
is
on
the north side of the raod..
That's about all
I'm gettin'.
Okay.
As you focus your attention back now on my voice
in
the room in present time,
remember clearly,
cleanly and pre-
cisely everything you have seen,
and let's prepare to draw now
to draw those images which you have had.
Okay.
Narration of the sketches.
Of sketch
one
is my target
acquisition imagery.
A very cluttered and jumbled pass,
the
right side is a regular mountain.
Regular
I mean it's barren
but it's rounded,
you
know.
The left side
I had this feeling
of sheer cliff wall type escarpment,
something flat topped,
flat top mountain on the left.
The whole pass is cluttered
with huge garbage boulders,
that have been cleared aside to
make the road.
I
mean they are big as boulders.
You know,
it's not pebbles.
These are 20 tone boulders and
ton bould-
ers and stuff that's just strewn haphazardly throughout the
whole path.
All the traffic movement
is from the distance
in sketch one
into the foreground.
Which
I perceiv
iln- having later looked
at an aerial map as being China in the distance and Afghanistan
in the- towards the foreground,
in the direction
of the fore-
ground.
The direction of movement
is into Afghanistan.
Okay.
The whole pass
is about
a quarter of
a mile across.
Uh,
the
movement,
when
I first got there,
uh,
after
I
had sorta des-
cribed the pass and had gotten the description of the pass
area,
then
I suddenly got the feeling of some sporadic and ran-
dom
. vehicular movement.
Some of civilian.
Open,
rear
end,
half ton truck type thing with
a bunch helter skelter type,
uh,
civilian dressed burlap type country peasant with Jesus Chri-
uh,
Chr- you
know,
Jesus sneakers and all that kinda stuff.
And,
uh,
then
I sorta got
a
a repetition that two trucks went
by.. maybe two more trucks went by.
But these trucks were
more militarized.
They were,
they looked essentially the
same as the truck in sketch two,
but instead of having this
haphazard jumble of civilians,
they had more disciplined peo-
ple all wearing the same
light tan.. people
in the back were
#66 :
+35
#31:
#66 :
#31:
Approved For Release 2000/(^frBMm9£SS3U)788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 2000IQU&
&B0OO6OO63OOO1-7
wearing like uniformed light tan clothing,
uh,
and
I mention
now that
I
did not see any weapons with them.
Like GI's
riding in
a deuce and
a half always carry their rifles between
their
legs,
and they have heavy equipment on and everything.
It wasn't like that.
It was as though this was where they
were going had all that stuff possibly and they were just- the
bodies were being rotated or something.
And they were going
out to assume equipment
in place
or something like
a watch
tower or watch crew
or forward,
fortification
or something.
And there were
like two of those trucks that went
by.
And
this was about the time,
I presume this was real time now
activity.
Which makes
it about midnight there,
I
guess,
or
two in the morning.
Anyway...
Uh,
then you asked me
to open
to the time window of 30 days
and
I had the feeling,
as soon as you started talking,
I had
this feeling that
I was watching
a tank come up the road in
the same direction of movement.
Some low squat,
very lethal
and intimidating piece of equipment.
You know,
sneaking up
the road.
Maybe even under cover of darkness
or something.
And when
I
like looked and,
looked in the greater extent at
that input
I had the feeling of a string of them,
not a div-
ision or
a brigade size string,
but like
a armored platoon
sneaking up over the pass and going down on the other side.
And
this feeling of surreptitious passage,
urn,
and- what do you
want to call
it? And going down into Injun country in order to
ferret out the enemy ahead of time.
Scouting,
being a trip
wire,
being an advance guard feeling,
uh,
started coming
through at the same time.
Uh,
but not that this was unusual.
You know,
not like this was the first patrol,
but that maybe
this was
a somewhat rout- like
oh boy,
we gotta go out there
again type situation.
That they do that
on occasion,
or have
had to do that
on occasion before.
#66:
When did all this perceived tank movement take place?
#31:
That was,
uh,
I was looking at
a time line,
or
just
a line
that was supposed,
to me,
to mean 30 days and the middle of
it was today and
to the left is past and to the right
is
future.
And where
the,
where
I felt this time was occurring was some-
where around the left middle,
middle
of the left half,
which
would be about like seven days in the past.
And it was like
a little bit beyond that but not all the way to the end,
be-
tween seven and
ten days
in the past is when that occurred.
When the tanks went over.
All right.
Sketch three is my interpretation.
I don't believe
that the map that's provided has very good resolution
in
it and
I think that there's some considerably more accurate,
uh,
not
more accurate,
but more available geographic data- that's
ob-
vious,
talk about stupid things to say.
But anyway,
coming
from China to Afghanistan from the pass you
go through the
pass area and some distance of kilometers into
or towards Afgan-
towards the bad guys area there
is
a gorge
of some
kind.
Some
Approved For Release 200
6-00788R000600630001 -7
Approved For Release 2000/1
8R000600630001 -7
#31:
sort of a steep cliff,
cleft,
which is traversed by
a trestle
type bridge for vehicles,
not
for trains,
trestle
type
bridge,
shown
in sketch four.
As you come further into
Afghanistan
then,
or towards Afghan-
I don't know
if you're
in
it
or not- as you go further towards Afghanistan-
oh,
that
bridge marks the end
of the paved road where they've
laid
the all-weather surface.
On the Afghanistan! side of that
bridge
is where the
gravel. road starts.
Then
the road comes
into some sort of an intervening mountain,
it's all not nice
gentle down into
the valley like this damn thing shows,
this
map here shows that it's all nice and flat.
There's some sort
of intervening mountain
or hillside which causes the road to
take a very significant switchback.
Okay?
Does 180 back and
then it winds up around something,
I
don't
know.
I think it's
a mountain and winds back around and then
goes,
proceeds
on
down that mountain and down into the valley,
or into leveler
ground.
It's still decending ground.
I'm not saying it's
on the valley floor.
It's
on its way down towards the valley.
And below that intervening mountain is where the armored ve-
hicles were located,
along the dirt road.
And they were like
spread out in a fan so that they straddled the road,
and
I
saw them building,
they were upgrading hasty positions,
is
what they were doing.
And the only other thing
I
can think
of that might help
locate
these guys
is that looking at it from their perspective,
look-
ing
into Afghanistan,
there are three
on the
left side
of the
road and two more
on the right side of the road.
And that the
left hand tank
is virtually within 50
or 75 yards
of
a very,
very steep hillside
itself,
so that it's virtually-
its
left
flank
is protected.
Nobody could approach
it from the
left
because it's
a mountain top,
or
a mountain side again,
see.
And so its- that's the only thing
I
can remember
is that if
there's
a,
if there's another reverse steep slope there
look
down
in the cracks in the valleys
in between these mountains
and you might see the hasty position
of these tanks.
That's
the only thing
I- it canalizes
that tanks interest down the
road.
It does not have to worry about its
left flank.
Thatfe
covered by physical ob- by geographical obstacle.
Okay,
and
like
I
said sketch four
is
a... the trestle type,
feeling
of the trestle type bridge.
Okay?
All right
.
Uh,
that takes care
of that.
And then
I
guess attached to the
report now will be
a Xerox copy
of the map you used to target
me.
And I’ve located
on that-
I went up
to
a higher altitude
and tried to reconstruct the map and
I- that's to find
out
where these tanks were, where the heck
I
was.
Very spontaneously
I had the feeling that the
origin
of the tanks was from
somewhere,
I'm not even gonna try to pronounce
it,
to the
east
of the -
I
guess it's the east
of the pass,
on the east
side
of Mingteke, where
I've marked
it
in
red,
A
large fort-
uh,
installation there.
Division
level,
brigade
or- armored
brigade
or armored division
level.
I won't say
that.
Yes,
as
a matter
of
fact,
I believe
it's,
I believe
it
is armored.
o r-/B% nrx
Approved For Release 20d^^^T\3J^^tI3Pf^Ob788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 2000Ja£ilO^B£3£E^
#31:
I didn't see,
have the feeling
it was ground troop and mixed.
I had the feeling
it was
tank.
I don't know why,
but..uh,
that's the installation there.
And that they had proceeded
over the pass and down,
down mountain
far enough to be
in the
place where I've marked tank position.
I have no idea what
this scale
is.
But
I
had the feeling
if there
is
a distance
involved that it
is
10 or
15 miles,
probably
15 miles
over the
pass and down towards the valley.
Okay?
#66:
Okay.
So how do you feel about these perceptions
in this
session.
#31:
Well,
I
feel very good about the traffic
being only one dir-
ection.
I
feel very good about the paved road idea by the
pass site,
uh,
and
I feel very- my acquisition data really
very,
very solid.
It all seemed to fall into place without
much concentration.
Uh,
the movement,
uh,
the distance
from
the pass,
the tanks-
I don't
know.
Everything seems pretty
damn
good.
Uh,
if
I
had to say the weakest part of
it
is the
idea
of,
uh,
where the paved road turns to gravel road because
I was
in search of
a obvious there.
You
know,
I had already
said that where the tanks were was gravel and you sent me back
up to find
out where- so
I was
like answering
a specific ques-
tion
there.
That's maybe
a
little
if-y.
#66:
You said that the-
#31:
The existance
of the railroad trestle type bridge was very spon-
taneous.
That was while
I was trying to go back up towards
the pass,
I
got this spontaneous
imagery.
#66:
You had said that much
of the terrain looks so similar you had
difficulty
locating yourself.
#31:
Oh,
yeah.
It's all above tree
line,
high,
arid desert,
essen-
tially.
It's high desert,
mountain,
gravel,
rocky,
grungy.
#66:
Okay.
Are there any other comments that you have?
#31:
No.
Okay,
we turned
it off but
I
just realized that
I
had
talked about some
guy who was Mongol,
Mongol in facial charac-
ter and
I think he was
like possibly the platoon leader of
the tanks.
Definite feeling that these were Chinese and these
weren't Russians going towards China,
but rather were Chinese
going towards Afghanistan.
But,
uh,
he wore
a- now here's
a
difference.
The troops
in the back of the lorrio type truck
wore
a sandy brown uniform,
uh,
like our TW uniform. .cotton.
.
obviously not permanent press,
long sleeve,
button at
the
sleeve.
Boots were not tucked
in
like our combat.
They were
rather
the.. the pants were
out of the shoes
or boots.
Urn,
but
it was
a work uniform.
It was not
a
TW uniforn.
It was
a work combat uniform that they were wearing but the style is
different.
Approved For Release 20
88R000600630001 -7
Approved For Release 2OOO/O8/^^0^^»|i«aaBOOO6OO63OOO1-7
#31:
The guy associated with the tanks that
I
saw,
that
I
think
is
like the platoon leader wore
a jack boot feeling.
I had
this feeling of big high boots,
almost riding breaches,
you
know with the boots rucked into the riding breaches.
Very,
very cavalryish.
I don't know
if that's the way they're..
Chinese armored units
are,
but
like
a sand brown belt type
lash-up across his chest and around his waist.
A feeling
of
almost like
a riding breaches,
big boots tucked
in.
Feeling
of cold weather then,
prepared,
preparedness for cold weather
because
I had this
idea
of the heavy,
uh. .twill,
uh,
not twill
but.. the quilted jacket.
Not necessarily being worn,
but
being close
at
hand for the chill of the night
type thing.
And,
uh,
definite flavor of being Chinese.
The whole aspect
of
it.
The tanks,
I
couldn't identify the tanks,
but
I did-
when
I
first looked at them
I said this is-
I
had this very
distinct impression this
is
an
old experienced combat unit
with well maintained but older equipment.
I
mean,
they can
get up and
go,
they can move and shoot,
it's just that they're
not right brand new off the
line.
They got dings and scratches
and bangs
an they.. you
know.
Even the feeing that they've
been shot at before.
#66:
Okay.
Good.
#31:
That's about
it.
Now
I turn
it
off.
Approved For Release 20TjY*jv
96-00788R000600630001 -7
«
t'
Approved For Release 2000/08/07
: CIA-RDP96-00788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 2000/08/07
: CIA-RDP96-00788R000600630001-7
Oo) BeAIWM AGHA AMIYL$ TAIpP(VeQ SOAY, UInoOAYWL \ _Pewvej2 Si ayow ayy ») a — Ns [/ s (=) 3 ~— ae e\s yl iS -_~ 3) Lh 7. a“ v [oe] (7 S* oo . o <', . So ° a wo m 7 Q e/ A O - °o Ps) oO Oo N ® 72) 4°) A ® M nuayave Same euro VUviown paBdar eg? ro’ rey <x a , Vy sss 7 \ gu? Je, 107 : CIA-RDP96-00788RO0060 ; Approved For Rétease 2000/0
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000600630001-7 ke) Approved For- 107 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 2000/08/07
: CIA-RDP96-00788R000600630001-7
,
TAB
I
Approved For Release 2000/08/07
: CIA-RDP96-00788R000600630001-7
Approved For Release 200
I6-00788R000600630001 -7
TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION DCC-41
1.
(S/NOFORN)
Information provided the remote viewer prior to the session
is documented
as
a pre-session briefing and is included in the transcript.
Attached is the map shown to the remote viewer.
After the session
the remote
viewer indicated
on
the map areas referenced during the session.
2.
(S/NOFORN)
During the session the viewer was encouraged to elaborate
on
those images which seemed relevant to the task
at hand.
NOT RELEASABLE
TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
Approved For Releas
-00788R000600630001 -7