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#19.5
Leads.. a paved highway .. .appears to be
a town there,
where
it leaves
the paved the highway.
#43.5
Ok.
How large
a town?
#19.5
Not large.
Uh..I
get. .uh. .getting distinct
impression of.. uh.. some kind of reed-like plant
that's grown.
. .grown there.
Like bamboo type plant or
something.
But,
it's harvested,
for some reason.
PAUSE
#43.5
Tell me how
I would
go about finding this location
that you are talking about #19.5.
Tell me how
I
could
go about finding this location.
PAUSE
#19.5
Could. .uh. .could see
it with
a boat,
but you would
have to fly over
it.
#43.5
Where are we
in the world #19.5?
Where
is this
location?
#19.5
I don't know.
I sense it's South America,
or
something.
This has
a South American flavor about
it.
#43.5
Ok.
Is there anything else you want
to tell me
about the target?
#19.5
No.
#43.5
What
is your overall impression of the target
area?
#19.5
Some kind of . .uh. .isolated collection site or..uh..
for. .uh. .ELINT,
I would
say.
It's
..uh..near
water and
it' s. .uh. .some kind of South American
. .uh. .type
area.
It's my strongest impressions.
#43.5
Ok.
Is. there anything else you would like
to add?
#19.5
No.
#43.5
Ok.
Why don't you relax,
relax and
sit up and
draw some of these impressions that you have had,
ok.
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#43.5
I'll put the tape
on "pause"
now so you can
stretch.
Ok.
We'll get going now.
Why don't you
go ahead
and do your drawings.
#19.5
Ok.
Page
1.
I'll draw
a picture
of my very first
scene.
Looked like
some kind
of edge
...like sand dunes.
They were coming down like this.
I don't know how
to describe
it any other way.
They looked
like,
sandy
cliffs.
That's what they looked like..
With some
grass like you would
see at
a sea shore.
Sticking
up from this were two large things,
like this.
I don't know
if
I
am going to do these justice
or
not,
but,
there were two very
large white crosses
here.
They were. .like. .you know. .concave
or
convex
or whatever you call
them.
This part here,
is black.
That's what,
I
guess,
led me to think
it
was crosses,
at first.
May be crosses.
They look
like this.
They're sticking up over
the sand dunes.
I
get the impression
like there was.. there was lines
running through
this.
The whole thing was made
up
of different plates,
you know.
Then,
I started
getting the feeling
of antennae,
for some reason.
Some kind of
an antenna.
I
get the feeling like
there was. .uh. .some kind of
a building behind
it.
I'm not sure of exactly how the building was back
there,
but,
that's the impression
I
got.
#43.5
That building is behind thatis what
it looks like.
#19.5
It's behind there.
Yeah.
And. .uh. .that was
it.
That's my very first impression that
I
got and the
first thing
I
saw was the white cross.
The double
white crosses.
First
I
thought there was three
and it was wavering and
I saw two white crosses.
I
saw
a square outline that the crosses were
in
and
I
got the impression
of convex crosses because
of the lines.
Then,
as
I focused on this
I
started
getting the impression
it was all put together,
like.. with plates and that this was some kind of an
antenna and there was
a building behind
it.
It was
right on
the edge of some sand dunes.
Up on
a high
plateau
type thing looking down
...this being water
down here.
It was up very high,
very high.
Page
2.
I
got the impression
..looking down this,
now,
was. .uh. .these. .uh. .sandy cliffs looked something
like this..... the edge of the
shore. .. .this being water
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#19.5
These two large antennae type things.
. .like this
why they'd be fixed antenna,
I
don't know.
They
may not be fixed,
I don't know,
they might be
moveable.
I
get the impression they were fixed,
for some reason.
The building comes up like this.
Like
a long building sitting on
a stand.... two
legged stand,
'course the whole thing is fenced.
I'll
just draw a fence.
This whole thing
is fenced.
There was some kind of
a road here,
going up
like
this.
(Mumbling)
Hard pack,
you
know.
Hard stand
type road.
(Mumbling)
I
got the impression that
I
was looking into the end
of the building.
I was
looking
at
a long corridor.
This kind of effect.
Where these heavy black doors are there were
two corridors that went down on the right.
This
was
an outside wall.
This
is just
a corridor.
That's page
3.
Looking at
it from the
top.
If
I were to describe
I'll put
a dotted line down the middle of the
page ... looking at
it from the top... get this sort
of impression. .. .like this was the corridor
This may not be true.
This is just the impression
I
got.
This was a corridor.
It didn't go all the
way down where these doors were.
There was just
rooms on different sides.
#43.5
Where did you enter the building?
#19.5
Here.
Which doesn't make
any sense which
is the
opposite side
of the road.
I
got the feeling that
that's the way
I entered the building,
though.
#43.5
You're saying the road is over here,
someplace.
#19.5
Yeah.
The road
is over here though.
I may be
backwards the way
I
look at the corridor.
#43.5
Where
is the rooms with the racks of equipment?
#19.5
These rooms with the stars in them
I felt were
just packed with equipment.
The rooms without
the
stars.
. .the rooms with the circles
in them... I
felt
were rooms with desks and people looking
at some
kind
of
almost like
a light sensitive paper type
recording. .something.
And,
by peaks.
Let me explain
what
I mean by peaks.
And,
then
>
1 m going to draw
what
I mean
by
peaks.
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#19.5
I kept seeing. .uh. .every
time
I
kept trying
to
see what was on this paper
I
kept getting this
kind of impression.
You
know.
Like
a paper full
of peaks.
I
don't... like
I drew on page
4.
They
just... some
are small and some are large.
#43.5
Ok.
Did that mean anything to you?
#19.5
Doesn't mean
a dam thing to me.
But.. uh.. and
I
got some kind of strong impression that this was
some kind of facility for ELINT versus some form
of communication type of signal.
Like
radars because
of the. .uh.. I
just sensed the very high frequency.
I
don't know why.
I
just
did.
Maybe it's..uh..
a whole collage of scene.
Just
the way
it was
layed
out,
and everything.
Page
5.
The only . .uh. .these guys were wearing
uniforms,
but,
the. .uh. .like. .uh. .it' s kind of
a
funny cut to the collar,
ok.
I don't know how to
...I
don't think that
is essentially correct.
A
funny cut to the collar and where
it's black
on
this page
5,
these were
like. .uh. .where the black is
these are
red.
Some kind of red tabs.
I
felt like
this was rank,
or something.
#43.5
Were all the people wearing this type of uniform?
#19.5
No.
Some were wearing. .you
know. .like
shorts and
light shirts.
Got
a very tropical feeling.
#43.5
I guess
I'm asking here,
you said you sensed two
languages,
you
know,
and yet all the people were
dressed similar.
#19.5
Yes.
They were all dressed similar.
#43.5
Hum.
Ok.
I
think that's an important point,
though.
Tell me your impressions of that road
and where
it went.
#19.5
I had the feeling
...uh..this being the shore
line
and this being building like... this road went down
here.. up
to
a main highway.
It went off this way.
There was
a small town
or
city right here.
I
got
the feeling that all around this they were growing
bamboo,
or something.
I don't know what the hell
it
is.
Some kind of a...uh..I
keep wanting
to
say
bamboo,
but,
I can't imagine somebody deliberately
growing bamboo for anything.
That's the impression
I
got.
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