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very sharp.
And when
I saw
it,
it was about two
feet
in front of my face.
I
felt control of all
°f this.
Was definitely
a
.
.
.
outside the compound
across the wall.
#14:
Is there anything worth drawing of that?
#7:
Stick of dynamite,
no.
The wires.
.
.
The wires
seemed to come together and go out of the building
in the direction he was pointing and
I
felt the
bigger part of the charge inside this building was
in the direction he was pointing.
But
I saw it go
outside the building and
I picked
it up again going
over the wall and
I was looking around to see where
in the heck it went and it looked like it crossed
the street,
you know,
20 feet above the street.
#14:
Did you get a good look at the console?
#7:
Oh,
it was about
2 foot
deep.
A little bigger than
a portable TV.
Well,
there's all sizes of portable
TV's,
aren't there.
It was about
.
.
about 30 inches
by 24 inches deep by
.
.
24 inches high and the front
kind of sloped back.
And
it had little levers and
buttons and dials.
I don't know what
it was.
When
I looked
in the
.
.
was looking around to see
you know,
what the security was around this area,
I couldn't find anything that
I could recognize by
looking and then
I tried to converse with him.
And,
I
got the feeling that the security of keeping the
people in was more fear on their part
of what would
happen
if they did try to move out.
I got the feeling
of at least,
tha tthey thought,
areas were booby
trapped.
If they tried to go beyond certain points
that they would blow themselves up.
I was unable to
determine whether these booby traps actually existed
or whether they were made to believe that
it
did.
PAUSE
I found the machine gun somewhere near an entry to
the building.
I'd say 100 feet away.
At least.
.
I’d say about
10 feet in the air.
It guarded that
entrance
or exit as
it may be.
I
looked around and
found it also commanded a lot of the open space
inside the compound.
At that time,
I
started looking
around to see what else
I might find and
I started
examining the grass very carefully and
I saw what
looked like someone had cut a sod about
a foot,
inches wide and cut
it back about
18 inches
- like
it had been rolled back.
I don't know whether
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a listening device had been put under their,
or some booby trap or a mine.
I was looking to
see
if mines were put there and
I thought
I
would be able to just see the mines but
I did not
see an
image of mines.
While
I was examining the
grass
I saw something nearby that was just like
a
blunder-bust shot gun.
.blasted off straight up
in
the air.
Very tight near the ground and created a
cone something like
in the shape of this cone I'm
drawing on Page
3 and bits of dirt and debris
in
this cone.
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Oh,
I thought his present position was to the right
of the entry-way.
I don't know whether
its the
primary entrance to this building
or not.
I had
the feeling that the building,
for some reason,
either looked like or was called "The Little White
House" or something.
I tried to shake that and
shake
it out and see what come of
it,
but
I couldn't
do
it.
I had an awareness, not vision,
of
a
lot of
trees around
it.
And the building seemed very,
quite
close to one of the walls.
I can't think of anything
else to draw.
#14:
All right.
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