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SGIA SGIA SGIA SGIA SGIA Approved For Release ~y ‘ -00788R000100110001-9 a A SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSIONS C71A AND C71B 1. (8) This report provides documentation of two remote viewing sessions conducted in compliance with a request from OACSI, DA. This office was requested to provide information concerning the SG1A In response to this request at the Intelligence Threat Analysis Center (ITAC), INSCOM, was contacted and briefed on the INSCOM GRILL FLAME Project (IGFP). He was asked to provide target data and orientation information so that a remote viewer could be directed to provide relevant and needed intelligence information. The viewer was provided only the copy of a photo of the individual believed to be (see TAB B). The mission was to locate the individual and describe his location and activity. 2. (S) The viewer reached a very relaxed state and began describing the individual's location and activities in detail. The information provided by the viewer did not correlate with the information provided py TT as to the location and activities of the individual. However, upon contacting the ITAC representative, there seemed to be some doubt as to the actual whereabouts of the individual. During the second session (C71B) the remote viewer was tasked to go back to a date in time when the individual's location was Known and describe the area and activities taking place at that time. 3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document, GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. 4, (8S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is information provided to viewer. At TAB C will be analytical comments when provided by ITAC. Approved For Release ~ SERED 00110001-9
Approved For Release zooorosi FAME rpc-oo7eero001 00110001-9 Fen’ Gu TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION C 7iA #14 This will be a remote viewing session (edited for security). PAUSE SG1A The target for_control is an individual whose name is, initials MM focus your attention on this person and tell me where he is. PAUSE #31 Uh...-eeeth..-1 have a..a,-ehard to say..size of what is a square flat roof, building. A cinder grade, many regular windows, I feel he's in a.-a built up area..and this building is a long..vertically..length ..enow horizontally...(not audible) ...many windows ..etaller than buildings next to it. On a paved road. Many buildings around. The building is..maybe twice as tall as the ones next to it. A very narrow space «every narrow space between it and next door buildings. ..euh..eit's like looking down a canyon. But I have the feeling I was...or he was up in maybe the top one or two floors. Narrow space around the building, like cracks. They might be..uh..maybe oniy twenty feet wide. Because of the size of the target, they look only like cracks around the building, and..OK..uh..massive big city. Feeling that city has a river through (not audible) »eemakes a dog leg. PAUSE #14 Tell me more about this city. Wheres.cces #31 Yes...1 feel like..I'm having trouble..I..uh....I feel like I'm being drawn. I somewhere lost my building... I'm being...feel like I'm moving sideways, rapidly, round in circles. I got to get some control, here. PAUSE H { ; Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R0001001 1001-9
AA Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : ome te el ebneee 00 10001-9 +05 #31 +07 £31 #14 +10 #31 #14 +14 #31 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96 ...More about the city. I see a.. I don't know the direction. I feel like..I see a white marble type dome structure with columns,..like a memorial. It is not on any major access to the start building but it has a major access wide road...big...big long..plaza or..the road enters that target and my start point is.. is..maybe a mile to the left..-almost on the same latitude as this place. Between this place and the start building is a humble, jumble of constructed buildings of different heights and it's solid mass structures. PAUSE A river dog legs....(pause)..draw a line between the two. The river..uh..dog legs..I want to say first time, may be one-fourth of a mile north of that line, half way. It comes in at a slight angle off..off the line and curves away from the line before it hits it. And goes on off. I think Left is north....(pause) it's hard to tell the 1li...(not audible) city. PAUSE Where in the world is this city located? PAUSE . working... (PAUSE) weeeseeee WeStern BULOPCeseseeeeeeces and maybe to northern part, south of water, looking like ».elooks like it's a ..northern way out northern, one-third and south of water...I think it's Berlin. That was from a aerial map. It seems to feel good. OK. Focus your attention again i Describe his immediate surroundings. SG1A PAUSE (Sigh) esescceevecerereel Accescsscess (PAUSE) wereene (not audible).......-let me work awhile......good impression.....carpeted, small room....+ (COUGH) weseee two windows, a bed in front of window. He's standing on floor. I think there's a...he's up high..I a thing he's alone..uh..it seems..uh..a nonofficial place. I don't detect any business...sitting at a table...uh.. small table. ....good imagery in writing but he's a casual..sitting alone..table in the middle o£ the room wseeemaybe a different room. TI see white, white things all around. A white floor. I feel like a..cabinets and appliances.. Maybe a kitchen....uh..1 don't feel he's in uniform..turtle neck, long sleeves, dark knit 10110001-9
a Approved For Release 2000/08/07 ARERR Ealeano: 00110001-9 +) . i +17 #31 gomething. I even want to put house slippers on his. feet. Like brown...brown or dark gray slacks. If this is the man, he ain't on duty. »«Uh..he's like working at his a,.table..a..it's like he's doing work at home..he's a..something almost business like home ..L want to say there's a typewriter sitting On ase. one corner of table..uh..from this place I can look out to a..I get the same fe...1 feel he's up high in the building. As I look out the window he's a..I look out on the city. There's a big a place across the street but not as big as this place. I feel I can look across the street out his window and look down a roof..uh..the roof's maybe..uh..this pbuilding is different. It looks like it's one across the street. Tt looks like older red brick, fewer windows, less modern than in the one I'm in. I want to say the roof is flat....(not audible) ...in the right opposite corner is a box of some kind.. a big box..like the top of an elevator terminal..an elevator shaft...OK. Back here..the guys got like a living room, sleeping room, same place. Uh..in where the bed is, is also his living room,.like a little efficiency room with a capital E. Got a..looks like books on the wall...on the wail pooks and stuff, ash tray here, there. It's got carpeting, but not good stuff, more like a rug....got a chair too. Kinda spartan actually...like he's baching it. The only thing I can really Sayeees-1iS-..the only thing I can really detect continuity wise is access of kitchen from this room and other than maybe it's (not audible)...I don't there's anything else to the place. Where to boss? PAUSE #14 I'm going to ask you to move gideways in time a little bit. Obviously, you've caught this man at home. What I now want you to do is move to the time when he is at his job and describe the job and his location to me. PAUSE +23 #31 IT had a ...a feeling of a big bay...a big bay filled with people......typewriters.....,equipment..++.+ (Pause) s+rsses nice office. Got a feeling of a....you know...a..nice... nice walnut type desk, plush,,, ,groovy place, small office, accessing this outside bay which is rather large, not many people on LteccecctUMecccecececeesOK. let me work on Lbs cecsenccresvecvanessrccessssnorraacrensrsrccrccrccesces —_ 3 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP9 0110001-9
— +25 +26 #31 #31 #31 909 100110001-9 OK,..let me work on this thing here...I...-.get the Light ...back PAUSE weeeelots of people wearing...a...earphones,,,,had shot ..-eearphones...shot of I feel uniforms now...sort of deep brown...feeling iS..a.eeae deep brown. .greenscess deep brown green. Uh.. (not audible) that ROD. Uh. .eaee-OK, I got..um...f got a full shot Of Aacseseee Tt's hard to tell where this thing is. I had the feeling of ranks and ranks of ...first feeling was ranks and ranks of low tables of clerical type, lot of paper work, typing, transcribing...uh...then I had a shot of full wall unit of..or a..wrong to say wall unit but a equipment module of some kind, long skinny put tall resting on back of long metal desk but guys on stools sitting in front of it four or five feet apart. Three or four feet apart. And these guys had a little (not audible)...seemed like they had a Llittle..a.. machine on right protruding from the equipment rack.. Like..uh..with buttons on it..like..ae.-like each of the right sides its..the back of this little machine marks the stopping of that guys place and the starting of his neighbors place and it's got buttons on it and it's shaped like a typewriter but it's smaller. Button bank at an angle and then a flat top. And this thing ig somehow plugged in or connected to the big stuff that sits in front of the guy. And into its left, he's got a work space. A table top and then to his left hand is the back of..is the side of the next guys thing..but the vertical equipment all goes in the front of him is all con..-is all connected. The only thing that sticks out of it are these little things at desk level...gray metal gray round stools...these guys. There's about five of ‘tem, It's only a line of about four or five, but where, where in hell it is in this ...I don't know. Let me go in the back of the room and look......Uliees-- PAUSE I think their on..looking from the back of the room. They're on the right side but separated from those other guys by a partition or a Light wall. They seem to be segregated from the groups and there seem to be several groups ina line..like you walk into this thing..a long access of a long narrow room, almost like a tunnel. And then there is..one or two access areas through the partition or the Light wall for moving back and forth. Somewhere I keep getting this fleeting impression .. ..as very, very solid impression of a ground level and Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CA REE Bo100110001-9 Lm 8]
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Approved For Release 2000/08/07 SECRET 00110001-9 +07 +10 +12 #14 #31 #14 #31 #31 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION C 71B This will be a remote viewing session (edited for security). PAUSE SG1A It's now time to focus on our target. I want you to now focus on our target today Describe ‘ the surroundings and his activities at this moment in detail. aé ae ht PAUSE pw ve Uh...why don't you kill the tape and when I start.. | turn it on again...I....a little more time here..that'll ji save waste. \ OR. PAUSE Uh...got a..series of..a.efeel like I'm outside..... feel like I'm on a..I see a guy in dark..uh..dark coat standing on a..sidewalk and behind him is a series of funny it's a..like I'm on a slide hill..a series of 90 degrees angle..they're angles..a shop side by side by side, like building blocks 6f£ set, down this hill » again he's...he seems to be in a dark cloth fall coat. No gloves (cough)}..uh..coats about knee length. Seems to be waiting for something, like transportation. Fleeting ..like raising his arm to hail something. PAUSE I have a feeling that just a little bit of traffic on side walk..»what I think is..seems to be a lot of lights, .»-up the street and not so much....I don't feel the same...standing..a little ways up the street feeling that a..place is,.and there are a lot of outdoor lights.... weeeit's more Lighted down there...more activity...+> people crossing the street. (traffic noise in the background of tape) SECRET * Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R0001001 410001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : om ROCECRET 10001-9 #31 +15 #31 414 +20 #31 SG1A #14 _— #4 +24 #31 +27 #14 +28 #31 PAUSE veework on him. Seems I can't get into the..his head a little better PAUSE I have..a..l..a.-.just have him smoking and..a.. walking up a..the street towards business or whatever along the sidewalk in front of lighted shops. He's not looking in...he's not..strolling..walking and thinking and SMOKLiNG...ereesee Tell me what he's thinking. PAUSE (NO response to this question.) PAUSE Uh..I don't know. I tried. Alright. Just focus your..focus again on and get back with him in his walk. PAUSE Do you still have the target on the observation? PAUSE Yes. I had a......it's.....it's hard to trail if you just making (not audible) for interest sake. I have this feeling he's.....Podgordny museum at Minsk and clurch..that's only ........before that....again you don't know...making something. I had a shot of him getting into a black car, automobile. SG1A I am going to move you sideways in time again. I want you to describe surroundings as of one month ago, last month. PAUSE Uhe.eeeeth..oh no! (mumbling)..I have a feeling I was looking over a coastal area oaver..a..some kind of water. I'm making a..slight however...(not audible) then T had the feeling of a..a..revolving,round..uh.. circle. I had the feeling of a..revolving post sticking out on the top of some square, metal Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA- cae 10001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP #31 +31 #14 +35 #31 #14 #31 +40 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-Rimiga ‘ 90110001-9 »«-feeling of something..like something temporary.. Like moveable and then I had the feeling of marching troops in rank in..uh..um..in rank..like 10 or 15 abreast marching by in mattial mode with dark brown/ green uniform. Uh..out of no where I got the coastal area, I got the feeling I was looking at another city, at a city but different than this one..than..a.. I had the feeling that..I had a real..I had a feeling of a..of looking down on a..to the right..to the right of the indentation of the coastal area..where the thing is..I had the feeling..a big thing..shaped like a "P". about that..like I was looking down on a massive road or street, or something that was shaped like a "P", but the funny thing about it was it had a double..a..leg eeeit had a double leg on the "BP", ocseweenccerecesececes PAUSE Tell me more about the city. PAUSE Warm; tree lined streets; hills...different ...-- different hills.....good shot....uh..red domes....uh.. funny red tile...uh..dome's almost, like’on a church. PAUSE Tell me about the people in this city. PAUSE I got a piazza with arches,...like..funny architecture.. like Spanish..lot of tiles......-let me work on the people......got to find somebody... .-eecnecccsvscees ~eeleetwO ...three images come to mind ..o0ld ladies dressed in black. Latin looking men...short sleeved shirts..outside shirts (not audible)...I don't have any feelings of (not audible)..dusty dust...it's all tropical ...structure generally low..low: but I have weirdest..place that..where I am is..uh..like in a residential area..it's not the downtown feeling.... not big buildings all over like before,...more outskirts . A21190100110001-9
#31 +12 #31 #14 +14 #31 —" #14 #31 #14 #31 #14 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA- f , ‘tk BRO00100110001-9 vee Digger buildings farther away. I have a feeling like I’mz..1'm down below from where I started... my first feelings...I had to make it go someplace else. Even though I went someplace else...I'm not...1 didn't start out in the downtown anyway...30 days...Uhee- PAUSE That's funny, I had a..I had a moving vehicle, like heavy weapons down a deserted road out in the boonies. Tropical foilage on each side of the road. Like a tactical move. There's a...let me get back up on the hill. Tell me more about the vehicle. I said like a heavy weapons, but the more I looked at it, as it went by, it was more like a, a road march of..uh..lories and heavy box-like trucks. Uh.. swith stuff inside. I don't...they were scout (phonetic) cars and...umm also called..I don't get a feeling of like combat equipment, but more combat support. I have no idea where it is. Seems to be totally. different place. Uh..eoh..ethose guys are..uh..uh, I want to say those guys are soldiers; they are not anything else. Ok. We've been at it for quite some time. Do you want to draw now? I want to get back on that hill. Ok. If I can for one last......it overlooks....it's not a big hill and it seems to have a bunch of trees, houses, like buildings of state. Older places up there, but from it you can gee..-water, overlooks the water, and then you can about 24% miles of...you can see the downtown. What would be the business area. ~~" Bigger buildings down there. A commercial feeling. More jammed packed. OH! GOD (individual stretching) Stretch out a little bit. ie 0100110001-9
Oe Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-R Eb 00; 00100110001-9 Gee tl 7 ; #14 #31 #14 #31 #14 #31 ~ ey” SG1A #14 #31 = - Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP Are you ready? Yeah. That's what I call good timing with the tape. (Tape turned over) This is weird. Like I said before, it's like being on a shopping trip. What do you want now? I don't know. What do you want now? Ha....Ha.. Ok. Start at the beginning I guess. That's about the best place to start, usually. SG1A This is what I was talking about. These 90 degree angles. Like shops set one behind the other, or something. . And, this is, of course, targeting - in the present. Yeah. this was real time. Ok. This is a street side scene. A series of...like..uh..zigzag..-how do I describe it...like shops set one in from the other along the line...street side scene...glass up top ...brick bordering on the bottom, and sidewalk here, and a curb. Had the feeling that there was, you know, automobile.....parked along the side ..type situation along...that's peculiar. The impression I had of automobile was that it was parked the wrong way on the street. That's, that's something I remember. I didn't say it, but it's something I remember. Uh... and I had the feeling that old [J whatever his name is, was standing here..uh..on street side, street gide corner here. Wish I was a better artist. I had a feeling he had a hat on of some kind...in a dark type coat, ok, and that he put his hand up. No, put his right hand up, ok. Man on sidewalk looking at street. Raised right hand as though to hail a cab or something, ok. But then, I had him..-well...the next I had though was instead of anything like him getting into a lousy car or anything like that, I had ‘em, I was, I was like looking at him from behind, and he was walking down the street. Walking this way, ok. Please make little foot prints. That's what I'm doing. Ha, ha, ha, ha.ceweeseeecs
~ #14 #31 #14 #31 #14 — Ok. sideways. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-R of nothing. Ok. Are you aware of anything like that? have no idea what it is. No. I recognized the town's. name Kerchin, (phonet museum and such town. Kursk and Minsk, but podgorney (phonetic) museum, Ok. I was just wondering if maybe there was such a I have no idea. vee MeVEDeesee just, And that was about the time I had you move with him for awhile. Let me just w what was, ok, this is.s..e--. up dark street toward lights, smoking right ha Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RL #31 goes. #14 RW 00100110001-9 Notice they get farther apart Ha..eha, ha, ha. ha. street, ok. grooving o he'd hop into a pawn plac #31 And, he walks down the n that shot...really neat. You were hoping. Hoping, yeah. e or something. the farther away he The next thing, all right then, «++. shapes along here o e I thought, maybe You know. It seemed like an occasiona Anyway, ok, all right. There's dark f an occasional automobile, right. 1 vehicle, et cetera. I had him in the foreground walking along, sort of like one hand in his pocket and the other hand...cigarette. That needs to go down farther there ‘cause he's got his trench coat on, whatever it is..ok..and here's “uh..and he's walking down the street, ok. it's dark. My feeling is this gloomy ; this, gloomy dusky was my feeling. gloomy, dusky, ok, an the side, here. And..uh.. is bright lights, ok. I'm talking about. to explain it. Ok. Now, let me write Here we are d shops along the wall...along I can't draw it. Like yo It was an unbusiness, an unfrequente into a more frequented place down here on the old horizon shops open and the lights were s You know what u're looking...1 was trying like I was walking out of a, That's about the only thing I COULd. ccccceeeere it's dark all around here. d place, down the street that wag still...had some Activity, business, bright lights till on, and everything. shining out, ok, and Oke So I boogied on along rite in walking alone nd. Uh. ic) I L don't know either. you know....-out 0100110001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA dipai #31 #14 #31 #14 #31 i #14 #31 #14 iegntiao 001001 10001-9 Ok. That's 2. Then I had.....well I had this feeling he got into a car finally. That's nothing,ok . Now, going to Dees ok. That's what I was trying to write. Trying to explain rather. This is wees eater, and this is harbor, maybe, ok, and this is hill, ok, and this is like..uh.- taller buildings, and here is like outline city districts. All right. Now, this was a trop.....tropical and warm. Totally different place. This is minus 30 days, right. Right. RT minus 30 days. Real time. Ummseeevereeesereress Then you described revolving round circle. Ok. 1 felt what he had to do in this place was done up here, ok. \Whatever.....and there's buildings....+> you knoWesreeeedt's to0.eeeeit's impossible to draw everything. I had the feeling there were buildings in here. These were..--it's on a hilleeccesssecereres these were like buildings on a hill. Now, I'll say it right now. The thing that strikes me as being peculiar about this is that.....uh..-.god, I might be totally off....«I may, may be totally off-base on this, on this thing here, but..uh..because of the nature of my work in the other place, I pegged this feeling and impression as being Havana, Cuba, ok. What gives you that impression? Well, it was this fleeting out of sowhere. This P, this double P thing on top of this hill, which came out of nowhere. I was just sitting there working along trying to figure out 30 days ago. Just grooving on what was going to come, and the first thing I was doing was zooming down on this. That is a, that is a feature from other research I just happen to have done as a result of my involvement with Latin America, of..uh.. of a..uh..suspected location of some of the Soviet..uh.. command and control elements in the Havana area. Ok. so I'll just say that right now for the record. All right.
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDPY #31 #14 #31 #14 #31 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R¢ Ah 4100110001-9 "Cause I've been working with another detachment on providing them OP data and maps and all the rest of that stuff. So I'll say that for the record. Ok. Getting back to the revolving round circle..uh.. and a revolving pole..... Yeah. I'11 get that. Qk. ok..-all I can do is just put it on top of a box. I don't know if it's a movable» box or if it's something that's off-loaded, or something that is stationary as it is, but has to be moved with a considerable effort, or what. It was just a quick impression. I had a feeling that the whole thing turned. Ok. That's that....4. And I had 5. I had the classic, I had the classic eartoon of troops marching about 15 abreast, ok. You don't have to draw that if you don't want to. I'll draw one rank, ha, ha, ha. I'll narrow it. down to its essentials, ok. Troops marching in ranks. .uhe. deep brown green, deep dark brown green uniforms..uh.. 10 to 15, what did I say, 10 to 15 abreast, rank on rank, pomp and circumstance, pass in review was the feeling, all right. That's all, that's without beating myself to death. That's enough, I guess. Ok. Somewhere around there, I had the feelings like...-. here were the buildings....uh.....I'll draw you thisee.. funny church thing, ok. Here was the harbor. Over here is this hill...somewhere in this mass....water on the horizon, right....downtown...here's the hill...somewhere in this mass is this funny...funnelied shaped..cees like cathedral..aops...ok...it's got 3 spot...1 had the feeling there were like 2, well you can see 'em here, 2 things sticking out the side that had spires. on ‘em, - you know, and it confused the heck out of me, because I didn't know if we were talk....if they were... don't know. They could be minarets. They could be...whatever.. uh...thing about 'em is that they are orange...don't spell orange with ag. O-r-a-n-g-e, orange -red tile... church or cathedral, ok. The other impression I had. Uh...that was 6 there for this thing. And, again, this item is only being drawn, but it's drawn amongst tree-lined streets. Tt should be there's 8 00110001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDBS #14 #31 #14 #31 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP.9600788R6 00110001-9 tree-lined streets, low buildings all around, residential area...some bigger buildings, but nothing like this seetion, was what I was trying to get across is that the massive section is somewhere else..cee where I was drifting. Ok. uh..how do I draw this in perspective again. Ok. Heres...-ok, that's in the background, and it's shady. «- and you can still see it in there.....like an open plaza feeling with..uh...this is a walkway back here, but there's these arches right, and it's dark because it's covered.....this line really shouldn't be there ..eeefeeling of some sort of a fountain in the middle of it...eit's all mox-nix, but it lends a flavor to what.....-all right...- What flavor? Well, to be the arch style...everything was either lat...eit was very, very Latin to MGseeeeeeververs Then you described being out in the boonies. Yeah. Ha..-ha..-ha...hooo-waaa... how to see..uh.. how to see Cuba on five dollars a day...-ha, ha, hase. Ok. I had this kind of a feeling. Disappearing in the distance...cloud of dust and a hardy hi-ho-silver you know...don't want that line, not yet. ....and, you know...uh...ck, to label 'em in our equivalence... this is like a 5 by. This is like a 2 and %, duce and a half, and there was..uh..like a small little squad jeep of some kind, and not necessarily in the same order. It's just this boommmm...uh...open type thing, for whatever worth it is. And, one impression that I had, I was sitting there watching this thing disappear in the sunset, and, ok, that's 7. This will be 8. But, over here as though it was disappearing in the sunset with some poor sucker sitting in the back of it, as I've done quite a bit myself, right..-here's canvas on duce and ¥4...was this guy gitting on the gide.-«.-ok....-and I had..-he was...el had the feeling that this guy, you know, sitting in the back by the tail-gate, as Gls everywhere want to do when they're on the move, and this guy had a, my impression WaSee. not, not...my first impression was that this guy was wearing a.-like a...was not wearing combat gear. He 0100110001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP9@-00738R 50700110001-9 was like wearing...or fatigues even...he was wearing “Neer more uniform of the day gear, right..uh..the service type cap instead of a field pot..and. .uh..round dark khaki...dark, deep brown, ok. That's all I can do there...well red...red trimming epaulets and a cap band, which is also, this is also the thing here. Uh..esketch 5. ...is this red trimming...it's hard to pinpoint where it is, but that was the feeling I had for the marching situation, ok...was that there was flashes of red amongst the brown. #14 Maybe very significant. I don't know if the Russian's do it. Some countrys used to, and still do, identify certain types of units by the piping on the uniform. #31 Well I didn't get.....yeah....ok...+ just the red flash is all I had. The feeling like...like here, in this guy, I've drawn him very crummely but like a epaulet I had a feeling like a epaulet might be red and the cap strap around his hat would be red...and..uh..then I had: the definite feeling that that was red, ok. This was all in tuned with this fleeting shot of this convoyer, or whatever it was. Couldn't tell you which one was which or anything else, but...-- red star vehicle door = convoy of, what, I'd say, 8 to 10 vehicles. Ok. now the : other thing is that this is..uh..it's almost as though “www they were the only...there was only one...--it was almost as though the road was so harrow that there was only room for the convoy to go one way, but I was on the right side. So I can't tell, you see, if there was another side, because I was just checking this action out ag it went down the road. Uh, I wanted to write this red trimming here arrowed to the guy's epaulet and arrowed to the guy's hat..band . That's when I said I had the definite feeling that the guy was Soviet. The guy, he...the guy in the back of the truck, to me, does not strike me as being an Arab or the Cuban or Latin American of anykind or an Arab or.. uh..-West German, Or American...or anything like that. It struck me as being the guy was...what I said.. SoV..+ 0k. #14 Anything else you want to add? #31 I went back up on the hill. The only thing that I did when I went back up on the hill was I got more data .eeflesh out this other sketch 'cause....this, I have n8R000100110001-9
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