788R001000090001 -2 Approved For Release #19.5: ground next to it, or it's painted on the wall, or something. #43.5: That was the very first impression you had, really. #19.5:3f Yeah. Red Flame. This may not be an exact cross, it may ve ZL a, uh, like a Red Cross symbol. But there was a, there was a cross...black frame. I got one of those eternal Light type things. It may be some kind of a graveyard, or burial ground, or something. But that's a conjecture, okay? I don't know that for fact. And then in the basement of this building there's this, uh, real rough hewn from stone corridor effect...like this. And the stone's painted white. And here's, uh, €héS@ cagé lamps in the ceiling, like this. goes away in the distance. And there's doors in the side, for six rooms. And the, uh, the rooms are just white rooms basement. like rooms. ——— __ - #43.5: But you definitely feel | you're in the basement? #19.5: Yeah. It's like a basement corridor. And, uh, the layout of the rooms is essentially this corridor, and then just three rooms on each side. There's more rooms, but these are the only rooms with hostages, and there's three on each side. And, uh, he's in this room, and Ahern I know is somewhere else. And there's a colonel that- the face is very familiar to me but I can't remember the...the name. He's going bald and he's got gray hair. #43.5: Okay. #19.5: And, uh- #43.5: Well, we'll look at the photos and come up with that one. #19.5: The face is very clear to me... And there's a... some other room somewhere to the front of this in which there are guards, #43.5:; There are no guards out there in the corridor? #19.5: No. None at all in the corridors. Okay, how about upstairs? Upstairs there are people armed, but I don't get the fee like they're guards, I get a feeling like they're, uh, well, this is the place we've been alloted to live in, you know, and, uh, we're with the revolution and this is where nd we run errands and that sort of thine #435: Okay... Where's this stone staircasé? #19.5: That's back towards where the guards are. And the view I “SEGRE Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001000090001-2
Approved For Release 2000/@8 \ RL #96-00788R001000090001-2 #19.5: got of that was, it was just a rough stone staircase, painted white like everything else. Everything's white down here for some reason, Like white washed stone... I do have a feeling that it's probably towards this end of the building. Somewhere back up in there. #43.5: Okay, where would you say the main street is, #19.5? #19.5; This is the main road up here. #43.5: Right up there. #19.5: Yeah, I called it main road. #43.5: Did you call it that? Okay, good. #19.5:; This is not too far off on the side road. There may be other buildings in there, but I don't know. But_ it's just off the main road... #43.5: Tell me why you felt this was an Crow neighborhood, office type neighborhood. #19.psf I just get an impression of...I get an impression of a lot of fairly tall ‘buildings, three to five stories, and all offices, you know, I don't get any, I don't get any residen- tial feeling, although there are residences mixed up in this area. I don't get a feeling of any kind of big business or small business, you know, like stores or anything, I get, I get, just get a feeling of offices. #43.5: Did you have any feeling about the condition of the hostages? Anything at all that you can relate to? #19.5: No, I was tryin' to get a, I was tryin' to get a feel for that, and, uh, I just kept getting this profile, you know, laying out on this gray cot, you know, it's just like a gray snapshot, and I wasn't gettin' anything else. #43.5: Okay. I don't have any other questions. You got anything you want to add? #19.5: No. That's it. #43.5: Okay. Very good. Thank you. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001000090001-2