Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000400520001-1 #105: #66: #10.5¢ #66: #10.5: Approved For Release 2000/08/0 x ay, | te 3 .«eto my right, left, top, bottom, front and back in all directions around me. Okay. There were many pyramid shapes facing you when you were in the center of. this sphere. Right. Pointing at me is more like it. Rather: than just facing. But, they were pointing right at me. Okay. Okay. And, that, I couldn't even begin to count the number of them. I wasn't really concerned with that, but I felt that the number of them was....in the area of 30 to 45, Not in the area of 100, and not in the area of only 10, but somewhere around like the 30 to 45 bracket. Whatever it took to make these faces. Okay. Now, each one of these pyramids was an individual and separate entity, separated by about an inch gap from its neighbor. And, all aspects of the, all, sides of all pyramids in there, because of the geometry of the sphere, they were all totally parallel. They didn't have one goin' like, you know, off from the parallel. All sides were perfectly paralley to one another so that they fit absolutely perfectly together with about an inch gap in between, inch to an inch -and a half gap. And, as I was in the center looking out, trying to find out what was out there beyond this redundancy of pyramid form, the only thing that I could find out that was sort of different was that in these gaps were Filled with wiring and circuitry. There was wiring and circuitry actually inside these one inch gaps between the pyramids....a clutter of fine little low voltage, micro-voltage wiring, and that kind of stuff. Okay. In sketch one, the sphere is about close to this front rotating disk apparatus. To the rear, to the right of the sphere, then, the only other major appliance inside this thing that Il was able to discern as it was added, as itwas put together in front of me progressively completed, was a thing which looked like a ribbed or a stacked layer of black metal plates. Ah, having ribs around it. Like a radia- if you can imagine like a radiator has ribs around it...take the radiator idea and compress it down so that there's only about an, ah, ah, a half an inch between ribbings, and this thing is square and black. It was pretty good size. It seemed to be some sort of a partition. It served a function of like partitioning something or keeping two things apart or two sections of the bomb apart. And, the one, the curious thing about it is that, and I'm nearly positive of this, I don't know if I've screwed the placement of this thing up or not, but the rear, the rear side, the right hand side of this black ah, metal partitioning ribbed partition here, has a likewise square rib or protrusion that sticks out of it which has a B-d0786R000400520001-1
Approved For Release 200Q/@8/07= vA #10.5: #66: #105: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: B-00788R000400520001-1 -eehole in it. I don't know if that hole goes all the way through the thing or if that hole goes into the interior of this black thing or not. Okay, and that sort of now left braining it afterwards, I'm sort of locking at this and saying, well, gee whiz, maybe that thing was supposed to be on the other side of this sphere, but I don't know. I drew it there because that's what I thought.....and around this sphere.....okay, between the. front piston and this sphere, between this sphere and this black metal wafée: type thing is all sorts of electronic wiring, miles of wires, hum, pounds and pounds of transistors and condensors and, ah, small instruments other little, little tiny boxes... the size of my coffee cup and the size of this tape recorder which, ah, really, you know, they're just, they're not important. You know. They've served the function of the bomb, but, I mean you could spend the rest of your life trying to describe them. And, it's just a humble jumble clutter type thing. You talked at one point about a fan or a cooling fan. Aha (affirmative). That is what I thought, okay, in the session I remember saying that now. That's what I thought that this black wafer thing might be. Okay. Okay. I recall it. I'm talking about...at that time I'm talking about this black wafer thing metal with the ribs, and that might be what I was talking about. Okay. Overall - proportions, the sphere fits right inside the overall bomb casing. Umm...sphere's about four, up to four feet in diameter, three and a half to four feet in diameter, and so is the bomb. It's about three and a half to four feet in diameter, and it's about the body of the bomb, the actual body part of it is about eight feet long. That is sort of discounting the nose cone which is an extra little bit, which has this counter-revolwing disk thing in it, and discounting anything that may go on the back, Which I did not observe in this one. I didn't get that far through process. Okay. Fine. Okay. In sketch two I have tried to draw a cutaway of the interior void...the thinned rod, the metal busses, and the -facings of these gray pyramids that come down and face into this void. That's sort of self-explanatory knowing that. All right. Later on in the session then towards the end of the session you asked if this was the bomb that I had, or the device that I had seen and worked against before, and my Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000400520001-1
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 ..CIA re ;00788R000400520001-1 #10.5: #66: #1053 #66: #105: #66: #10.5: Approved For Release 2000/08 ...feelings throughout this whole thing was no, this wasn't, gee look at this, I'm looking at something new being done here. They've just brought this part in and now over the next couple of months or so they're goin' to spend their time putting this one together. I never associated this, sketch one and sketch two with being what I had done before. I always associated that throughout the session with being a new one. Okay. You know. The model A or the model A4, bomb, you know. Ah, so you asked me, you asked me to go find, I guess some words to the affect of go find that other bomb, okay. Well, I immediately had a feeling that I had relocated, but still to some other part of the building, I didn't really feel that I had gone anywhere far away. I felt that I was still essentially in the same complex building, but somewhere distant ah, within the...you know, at the other end of the place. The other end of the complex type situation. Okay. What did you find there. At which I immediately perceived this completed, I mean a device which appeared completed in all aspects. You know. I was looking at the outside of the thing. I was not looking at...a partially assembled, like I had been doing earlier in the session...a total change of atmosphere. I looked up, and it appeared as though this bomb, or whatever it was, was completed, had this big box on its rear end, polished steel metal, quarter inch or so, oh, by the way, that's, I wanted to mention that....the first one, when I was looking at the cutaway, and the half, the half cylinder, the sheet metal ribbing, the sheet metal is used for the skin and casing of this thing.... sheet steel, and it is curved and haSeceee metal ribbing 360 degree circles like, what did I call it on the tape, ah, barrel hoops that go inside it that hold the moid, you know, that hold the shape of this thing. Okay, well anyway, back to sketch three. There was this completed device at, it looked, what appeared, when I first looked at it, it looked like it was suspended beneath a conveyor belt roller, and it sort of threw me off a little bit. I couldn't figure if I was looking at it upside down or what, and I... finally decided that I was right side up, and that yes, in fact, this bomb thing was, did appear to hang from an upper roller, but it didn't really hang from the upper roller because there was this roller beneath it as well, and it was, in fact, sandwiched between two roller things. Okay. As I've drawn in sketch three. And, the feeling that I had here was, not that it was being transported, nor that it was §-00788R000400520001-1
Approved For Release 2000/08/07. : CIA-RDP96-00788R000400520001-1 #10.5: ..-ebeing stored for the sake of storing or transported for the sake of moving, I had the feeling that it was being processed, that its being sandwiched in between these rollers was moving it through a small area of.exposure of some sort of equipment that was a part of the final process of gettin’ the bomb ready to go, and the word degousing just sort of hit into my mind, you know. It wasn't like the bomb was being forced through this machinery, or anything. It was hanging out in theopen, but in a tighter area. Like a place, the area of this room, and maybe 20 or 30 feet long. It was hanging in free space, but there was something going on in there that directly affected the bomb. Even though there wasn't nothing touching it or beating it or, you know, anything like that. So, the word, the idea of degousing or demagnetizing or something like that, ah, just went through my mind right then very spontaneously. Like, oh, this is the place where, you know, they get it already to go at the very end, and it's some sort of an abstract invisible process: like degousing. #66: Okay. #10.5: Okay. Then, you asked me to do the cutaway. By then, umm, sorry, but I was sort of beginning to do a little fade of my own. It was an interesting feeling though that this bomb that was being processed at the end did feel to me, did look to me to be different. It looked like a different model. Like the structure and the organization of the inside of this shell casing.....casing was not the same that I had just come from. The one that I had very methodically watched go. through an assembly process. Giving me the idea that this one is a little different organization. Maybe, like a little different firing mechanism method, ah, ah, and so therefore, you know, the big thing was the absence of this mechanical garbage in the front. These counter-revolving disks and the rod that took up the front of the device in sketch one was notoriously significantly absent in the one in sketch four. There was none of that type of apparatus. It still had the sphere, but that whole front end there was all a humble jumble of little black boxes and wires and transistors. You know. The typical garbage dump, and that the sphere itself seemed to be moved back about two feet towards the rear of this shell, ah, towards what was actually, I've drawn it here, it's like almost the very center of the bomb instead of the one in sketch one, which ig sort of, could be decided to be nose heavy, ‘cause the sphere is in the front end of the bomb. This one, the sphere appears to be about in the middle of the bomb, and about center of gravity. And, that's about it. Yon? RA de Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000400520001-1
Approved For Release 2000 RDP Pb -00788R000400520001 -1 #66: Okay. Um... You were unable to focus then any more on your cutaway of this, ah, device that you felt was the original device you...looked at. #10.5: Aheee I definitely took the one and three:.and. fou teas the one that. I had worked some weeks ago or whenever it was. #66: Okay. The essential difference between the device in sketch four and the device in sketch... #10.5: one #66: ...one is a lack of mechanical apparatus in the front of the bomb? #10.5: Yes. I had the feeling that the make-up, the essential make- up of the spheres in both bombs was the same. Okay. No real differences there. I wasn't attra-, well I wasn't really attracted to this sphere. I was looking at the whole bomb trying to figure out differences. The essential difference is the one that's finished...doesn't seem to have the mechanical detonating apparatus. What I would call like ‘mechanical detonation garbage in the front end of it. Something to do with these disks, and, and rods and things and stuff. It has merely electronics in the front. Soft, hard, hardware electronics, you know. Wires and wires and terminals and junctions and, what do you call it, transistors and little black boxes that do funny little things electronically. No mechanical doings in there of any significance. #66: Okay. #10.5: Okay. There might be some- What I'm saying is there's some small little remote mechanical servo that does some little thing in there. That's cool. That's not of significance to ‘me. It doesn't have this massive preponderence of mechanical stuff in the front like the other one does. #66: Okay. So you think. that the, the bomb under assembly which you've discovered is a new device, and has an elaborate mechanical detonation device in the front of it, whereas the bomb that is ready togo, which you depicted in drawing four, ah, is void of this. #10.5: Devoid of that and would appear to be more electronically driven and detonated and such and calculated and figured out, and. activated and everything. #66: Okay. Do you have any other comments at this point? #10.5: Nope. &, ae &, , att Fy Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000400520001-1
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