Approved For Release a To eeeeeaeenaneamanaael #32: #66: #32: #66: #32: #66: #32: DRAWING NARRATIVE REMOTE VIEWING SESSION #913 Okay, in sketch #1, I made a rough sketch of the disposition of the apartment, so we could locate the couch, which is very next to the, located immediately adjacent to the door, from the stairwell. And next to the couch is this aluminum pole that I have described. Then, in the latter part of the session, I described the perceived outlay of the apartment, to include bedroom and den, and bathroom. Okay, now where the aluminum pole is located, let's simply put a little circle and redrew. Then we're moving to page #2? Page #2, a. faesimile of that particular area, where the couch and the painting are located. And the thing that caught my attention is an old battle scene painting that hangs over this modern couch that I've described. And to the immediate right of the couch is a black aluminum type pole, maybe an inch and a half in diameter, very light and it would seem that it was used as a pole lamp, as we have known it before, with a couple of golds, striped designs on the pole that is basically black. And that caught my attention, in particularly in one of these apertures where you would put the light bulb in. My attention kept going into those as though I were looking for some type of mouse or something, and ended up in the description that I gave you, about the wires and. the monitoring activity of that thing. Now, the strange thing is, is that the wires were quite old, in a sense, crusty, light brown wires, that seem to go through the pole, through the floor, ran between the floor and ceiling of the first floor apartment, and then looped back somehow into the apartment. I followed it as much I could, and then. it ended up in the wall plug, as if the wires had been doubled in the wall plug somehow, and that's as much as I could get out of that. Okay. If we follow the wires and they come out of the base of the pole and go into the floor. Yes They would loop and then they would go towards, towards the wall. I'11 just make some kind of jazzy line here, then somehow loops up into the wall and to the ceiling somehow and ends up in a wall socket and I. really can't explain it. Okay. I thought it might cross the hallway into another room or something, but I just seem to form a big "U" and there was always within the enelosure, either the floor or the wall, or another floor, to end up in the wall socket. DP96-00788R000700260001-7
0 Te nn nine amarante Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : SREP fH288R000700260001-7 cs #66: Okay, this wall socket that you end up at, okay, I'll put the question to you bluntly. Where is that wall socket? #32: Yeas I don't know... I think it is on the same side or it's in a rear. room toward a small room, it's very close, it's very nearby, okay. And there's a feeling of mechanism there, on or off mechanism. But exactly I don't knov, I'd like to say.it's above because it makes sense, but I'm not sure about that. I don't even know, I didn't even perceive that. I just know that it makes a big loop and it follows this wire between the floor and the wall. It's always enclosed, ends up in the wall socket. But there I get completely confused as to where that dumb wall socket is, but it does loop. It is a "U", somehou. #66: Okay. #32: Okay. #66: Do you have any other comments then? #32: No, that was a, kind of a lasting impression, and equally lasting was the picture of that tall blond individual with the frizzy hair, 39 or 42 year old, who seemed to use this place to entertain people of the same like conviction, listen to what they seem to have to report and very nonsubtle, not too subtle fashion, really, sort of brief them on what he wanted to know for the future and then after this took place, they seem to socialize somewhat in the room. This was various people, mainly in couples in threes, pairs of threes that would come in various times. #66: Okay, now this activity you preceived here, who is monitoring whom? #323 He is monitoring himself. He is monitoring himself. #66: So,. this gentleman that you told me about, knows that he is being monitoring? #32: Yes, he is responsible for monitoring. #663 All right. #32: He puts it on when he wants to, puts it off when he wants to, like I say, I don't think it's continuing , just.wants a . Tecording of the proceedings, particularly the business proceedings on what he's interested in. Not so much the social aspects of the meetings. Approved For Release 200077 te Uk. if DP96-00788R000700260004-7
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 ac EB fe pe788R000700260001 -f #66: Now, I asked one other question. And you had some difficult time working.on it. I'd like you now in our debriefing here to see if you can explain a little bit better. #32: Go ahead. #66: If. I wanted to defeat this monitoring operation, what method would I use? #32: Well, when you said that, I quickly became quite physical, in a sense that the answer was "hell no, you can't, because if you do, someone will know that you have cut a wire." And that's what you need to stop the activity and it did not seem to be the solution to what you really want to know. And that is, sure you can stop the monitoring activity, you go in there with a pair of pliers and just cut one of the wires and the whole damn thing won't work. But the guy that is monitoring will know that this is so. So, the .suggestion was, monitor what he monitors through another device. #66: Okay. #32: To another means, but you can not defeat the line apparatus of what he's listening to, without it be known to him. #66: Okay. And how am I to monitor what he's alsa monitoring? #32: Bug him. #66: You had some-~ #32: Bug him with a cordless mike of some kind. #66: Okay. So, in your own mind now, take just a second to review all the things that you perceived this morning. Is there anything else you have to add? #32: No, no.. there were two main impressions. There was the individual with intermittent meetings and he being the. leader and they reporting from various places and activities, and he indicating a future interest on which. they were going to report, a sharing of ideology, a pumping up in a social intercourse after the business meetings. And then, secondly the pole, for what it's worth. #66: Okay. And how do you feel about this session, your degree of resolution of imagery and information? #32: All my imagery, to me, was good, but only saw half the room, I was quickly brought to the painting and right next to the deor and the couch and the pole. And then the imagery after that was the man standing in front of the couch and interviewing people that were sitting at tables or on chairs, long, big chairs in front of the couch, like coffee tables and drinking and what have you. That was very persistent. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIAAR PRPS, POF88R000700260001-7 3
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 ORE po 22R000700260001-7 #32: #66: #32 #66: #32: #66: Then at theeend of the session, I simply pushed myself to Find. out what the dispositon of the room was. So, I went through the apartment to see, give me an idea of what it was like. What confidence level do you have in what's going on here ? I don't know. Yea, that's what happened. That's what you perceive? That's right Okay. I have nothing else. Approved For Release 20004081 0ym @hk-RDP96-00788R000700260001-7
i fy , | an 7 pone at i \ nt rnd \ | wg " wt ob ¢ ae wil | Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000700260001-7 eet at
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000700260001-7 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000700260001-7
ILLEGIB Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000700260001-7 Next 1 Page(s) In Document Exempt Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000700260001-7