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Approved For Release 2000/08 PP OG-0C6738R000600070001-9 SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC~88 SG1B l. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in SG1B — with a request for information << 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3, (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed.in.the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. 4, (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the.target gite. At TAB B is target cuing information provided the remote viewer. NOT RELEASABLE ,1.0 EQREAGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : cin 7 : RO00600070001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000600070001-9 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-88 TIME #66: This will be a remote viewing session for 1400 hours, 20 February 1981. SG1B This will be a pre-session briefing to the remote viewer. SG1B SG1B We do not have a picture of him at the present time, but I do have photographs of the offices where he is known to visit. At this time I'd like ta show you, uh, one of the SG1B offices that he spends most of his time at. This is in a building in]. And you'll notice down here in the lower left there's a man standing there. I have been informed that this is the entranceway, where the man is standing, a control point or stopping point where you have to go to get into the building. And there's a doorway there for that man to go in. That's the way into the building there. And this is where works, in this building. SG1B #31: Okay. SG1B #66: Now, he has also an office or also is known to work in SG1B headquarters, and I'm now showing you..a picture of head- quarters. Now I'm going to point to an area in a SG1B headquarters where his office is suspected to be located. Right here in this middle wing, down this way in the middle wing, on the fourth or fifth floor, right down in there. #31: Okay. #66:  Okay.. That's where his suspected location of the office is there. Now he sometimes will go, uh, to this office later in the day to maybe turn in some reports or catch up on some- thing, but most of his work, as I understand it, is done Approved For Release 2oocnebar tae Rope pete f Im 000600070001-9
Approved For Release 200010 in ASR REALS? 0001-8 #66: “S6i1p SG1B #31: #66: #313 #663 #31: #663 #31: #66: SG1B #31: #66: #313 #66: SG1B over at this ather building that I've shown you. But that is the J[headquarters, so you might find him at either location. SG1B Okay. y SG1B | SG1B Now as to time, it is “a 9:00 at night rn today. Today's. date in as we talk right now it's approaching 9:00 at night in BB) We, however, are SG1B interested in the time window of 5 in the evening to 7 in the evening today. So we'll be looking at a time window some 4 to 5 hours back in time from right now to the time period 5 to 7 p.m. Okay. Okay? Today. Today. Okay... SG1B The purpose of this particular mission, this will be the first in a series of attempts with an attempt to build rapport with the man. So the primary stress of the session will be to develop and build rapport and a direct relationship with this gentleman, as opposed to physical descriptions of the area where he works, and so forth and so on, which of course will be helpful but it's not the overall purpose. The purpose is to build rapport and communications with the individual him- self. Okay. Okay? Do you have any other questions before you prepare yourself? Nope. Okay, you have 25 minutes then to prepare yourself. SG1B SG1B Focus - our attention now, focus our attention on j«e .Move back in time some 4 hours and deseribe location to me. PAUSE SG1B Approved For Release 7000108 LESSER ESENRE 10070001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/0 cea RE Gib-ARsfaedahasaa 7000-9 +Q5 +11 #313 #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: 66: #31: #EGs #31: I'm seeing a, uh.....e-.-(mumble) buildings.... I see him at...a place with fences with buildings, high fences...on a corner....- Another.........-snow...dirty street-side snow pile, slushy.... Someplace down past the corner is where you come in...through the fence, you go through the fence to the building, like...... Focus on Pee 27 tell me about him. SG1B pause Up above the ground and...eeseeeeee. Getting the feeling I'm above the ground, like. some sort of a apartment complex, not very high, fifth floor. The large window looks out...two large windows, maybe some kind of a balcony... It's either very private or some sort of controlled access.. Get the feeling of being special, special to get here... Tell me about the General's more immediate surroundings. He, uh. ..see him, uh... I'm seeing a figure, attracted to a desk like situation... Go on. Appears to be at the desk... And from- I'm looking over his shoulder, I'm behind him. All right. I'm in the wall behind him in the wall. Back sits to a wall. He's sitting... I'm on him now, he's like he's....leaning over the table, it's like he's hunkered over the desk. He's reading something...that's it, reading. And like an old man who's lake. a engraver, reminds me of an engraver, like he has to look very closely at things. And his posture is like that. But he's reading. Okay. As he is sitting at his desk occupied there reading, he is occupied, therefore his mind is free to talk to you. Ask him to describe his job to you. ‘sk SG1B to describe his job to you. PAUSE Now I'm seeing a...something to do with...financial plans. At one time... Another time, uh, something which...looked the corner of a.very Gothic like structure, gargoyles, and at another time...I ask some more... Approved For Release 2000/08) iat falta aga icaisfen00600070001-9
Approved For Release 2000/0SiET SIP ER fafa °00600070001-9 +19 +24 #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #663 #31: #66: SG1B SG1B PAUSE I'm seeing.....uh, something to do with, uh, security and fences and death strips and border security and then IL said his.....he said his job was concerned with the people. Okay. But I don't think he’s in with the people, I think he is... much, much too far above that to be concerned about real people. One to one he's, uh, way above that now. And then I'd had a scene of like. poles,;. like a...flag poles, which are meant.to mean that...he was up at the high levels now, and not out in the death strips anymore... All right. What- describe for me now what aspects of his job, what aspects of his job does he enjoy most. PAUSE Well...training... Got something to do with a big black car... And he enjoys being where he is, in it's entirety. And the only thing I can think of is the...training is his, uh, I get the idea of training young people, something about much younger people like youthful people and some...some— thing, I don't knoWseceeoee Do you still perceive him sitting at this desk? For a while he was up and looking out the window. Now I have him back at his desk again. All right. What time is it as he looks out the window? The sun's on the horizon, light's shining in, it's like he's looking over the city at dusk, it's like it's later after- noon or something. All right... Move around to the front of the desk now, move away, back away from the desk, about 5 feet from the desk. Describe the area behind him. It is a flat wall and...behind him, and then to the right is a opening like a walkway. And I'm in like a suite of rooms... something. By his left elbow is a doorway that you can walk past his desk...or...table.... SG1B Okay... Now turn to him again. You have had some time to cone to. kncV iE I'd like to pro- vide you with a little more information now. His nickname ic His nickname is You may now address him by this name, as you know him. And.as you once again turn to BBBJand identify vith ....describe his personality to me. SG1B SG1B Approved For Release 2ovciosiaxeaamaphadepeerfars00070001-9
Approved For Release 2000/0 GTB. CD RS fazai3000800070001-9 #31: +34 +37 #66: #31: +39 ( #66: #31: #663 #31: PAUSE He seems to me a very dottering...very, very dottering and old. Every. time I ask him...he comes across very weakly as..very, very tired....very. retiring...excessively old... like he's, uh, now put in a out of the way job and he's served well but now he's getting read to.be retired. I don't know, every time I look at him he*s...every time I see him walk.he walks like an old man. His, uh, one state- ment was "you'il never succeed"... Let me work some more. I read these plans which are...yes, it is a good plan. It's a..esome sort of a survival plan...like not general civil defense, but, uh, something to do with an elite remnant, or a controlled remnant to survive... Okay, I have no further questions about our work this after- noon, but I would like you to take a look now maintaining your continuity at the building in which this room is located, so that you might be able to describe it to me... And when you are ready we can prepare to draw... All the things I get are of defensive nature. Everything is like...him; or involved in, the security of...defensive nature. I did not get any offensive work or...exporting of any interest or anything, it's all internal, to the country, or internal to.the bureaucracy, I don't know which... He has many of these plans though. Many of these plans are sub- mitted, and he reviews them. And they're all alike... "what if" plans, they're all plans, what if something happens, they're not the plans that are put into effect autom- oh, of their own volition, they're plans that are taken if something happens. Okay. Contingency plans of some kind. Okay. If you'll hold your comments for a moment I'm going to turn the tape over now. Just relax and concentrate for a moment. You may continue... Mm...l provoke him, I say our plans must be better than yours. He says no, your plans cannot be better than ours. And I say well, how do you know this? It is as though they have lived these plans before. Very interesting feeling, like we have been through this, they have been through this so they know much more about it than we would, so. therefore their plans would be better, because like they've already done it and so they know what it's all about.......e.- I'messhmm, that's about all I can get. Approved For Release 200010 MERTEN PTET 000600070001-9