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# RM :
ROJ
for
6/19/84,
time
10:43.
#66:
Okay,
we're
coming
up
on
plus
minutes
and
ROJ
is
down
about
points
now.
We’re
going
to
go
ahead
and
begin.
Continue
now
to
relax.
Begin
to
focus
your
attention
on
SG1B
And
as
you
bring, your
attention
to
focus
on
this
point,
focus
in
time
on
April
1984,
April
1984
and
describe
your
perceptions
to
me.
#01
Swirling
mass
of,
of
looks
like
a
very
low
clouds,
like
I’m
on
the
ground
looking
up,
just
like
I’m
(mumble)
the
clouds.
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#66:
As
you
stand
on
the
ground,
look
around
and
describe
what
you
see
from where
you
are
standing.
#01;
See
like
some
people
off
to
one
side. ..it's
the
corner
of
the,
corner
edge
of
a
stonewall.
It’s
got
a
building.
#66:
Okay,
move
back
in
way
an
oblique
so
you
can
describe
the
building
to
me.
#01:
It's
in
a. ..form
of
a
"T".
It’s
got
twin
domes
on
each
end
of
the
cross
bar.
The
doors
open
(mumble)
like
I’m
inside
an energy
field.
#66:
You
said
there
were
twin
domes
and
you
talked
about
doors,
would
you
clarify?
#01:
I
just
see
it
looks
like
large
doors,
there's
a
large
opening.
There’s
ah. ..I
get
an
inverted
"V’
shape
over
the
doors.
#66:
Did
you
say
inverted
"V"
shape?
#01:
That's
correct.
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#66
Okay
Now
go
inside
one
of
these
domes
,
describe
what
takes
up
the
space
inside
the
dome
,
describe
what’s
inside
the
dome.
# 01
:
Buffet,
table
or
squar e
.
.
. it
' s
shoved
off
to
one
side.
See
indentions
along
the
walls.
All
exposed
pillars
up
and
down
lines,...
different
colors.
,...»• Sense
flames
of
some
kind.
#66:
Okay.
Now,
want
to
move
a
little
bit
here,
go
over
to
the
other
dome,
you
said
there
were
two
domes,
is
that
correct?
#01:
That's
correct.
#66:
Go
over
to
the
other
dome
and
see
if
it's
any
different
than
this.
# 01:
Only
difference
is
there's
like
a
mushroom
shape,
I
want
to
say
pedestal
of
some
kind.
See
very
ornate
gold
handles
on
the
base
of
something.
#66:
Okay.
Explore
and
describe
this
pedestal
thing
in
detail
.
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#01:
Urn. ...it's
all
square
,
.
.
curves
at
ah ... .handles
on
it.
It’s
a
little
bit
longer
than
perfectly
square,
little
bit
longer
than
wide.
See
ah... keep
getting
an
impression
of
feet
somewhere
in
this
It's
got
an
art
object
or
something.
#66:
Okay.
Have
you
ever
seen
anything
that
is
similar
to
this,
is
there
something
in
your
memory
that
is
similar
to
this,
that
this
would
look
like?
#01:
Reminds
me
of
some
statues
from
Venus,
Italy,
Florence,
Italy
(mumble).
#66:
Okay,
now
if
I
understand
that
in
this
dome
area
that
you're
in
now,
there's
something,
a
pedestal,
and
associate
some
feet
with
it,
some
handles
and
different
shapes.
Want
to
explore
this
some
more
but
I
want
you
now
to
examine
the
2 4
hour
time
window
known
as
April
84,
hour
time
window
known
as
April
1984.
#01:
Seems
to
be
ah. ..it's
kind
of
hard
to
describe,
the
only
event
thing
I
see
is
ah. ...has
to
do
with
time
or
something,
it
just
really,
I
just
get
a
perception
of
a
broadcast
type
of
energy
that's
very
finite
but
it
is
not,
that's
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localized,
it’s
ah •••(mumble)
powerful
and
it’s
very
localized,
it’s
like
being
in
an
energy
ball
•
See
ah. •••thing
that’s
perceived
by
people
there
cause
it
T s
very
different,
it’s
like
ah. ...I
don’t
know
what
to
call
it,
just
an
event,
I
don’t
know
how
to--
# 66:
All
right,
give
me
the
physical
descriptions,
the
raw
data,
physical
descriptions
of
what
happens
in
the
dome,
#01:
It’s
looks
kind
of
like
a
hole
drilled
in,
a
hole
drilled
through
nothing,
and
I
don’t
know
how
to
explain
that,
it’s
like
if
you
were
standing
and
looking
into
the
room,
a
stone
like
area
and
you’re
looking
in
there
and
there’s
a
hole
drilled
through
the
middle
of
it,
not
really
through
the
middle
of
it,
it’s
like. ••it’s
ah ... connected
tissue
of
reality,
there’s
twisted
around
in
a
cork
screw
like
fashion
from
a
hole
and
it’s. ..makes
for
a
very
strange
light
effect.
Ah. ..it’s
not
reflective
light
it’s
just
light.
And
that
got
a,
it’s
an
iridescent
outline
of
some
kind.
#66:
Say
again.
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Iridescent
outline
of
some
kind,
but
there's--
Does
this
have
to
do with
the
pedestal
in
any
way?
It's
k|ind
of
outlining
everything,
ah. ..but
it's
also
l|ike
the
ah. .you
know
the
reality
fabric’s
twisted
in
some
way,
pulled
apart.
There's
ah...
ah.. I
don't
ah
just
a minute.
Rememb
mini
v o 1 1 a g
br
to ‘stick
to
raw
data.
Now
P-eei
time
plus
utes.
And
we
are
at
exact
null
with
e
now
.
It's
vjer y
much
like
something
popped
in
our
reality
right
|there,
some
pin
prick
point
and
the
ah.. the
hazy
c|utline
of
light
is
like
defining
an
area
where Ithere's
a
whole
different
energy
format,
cause
|l
' m
getting,
you
know
like
when
I
try
to
move
in
on
|
it
I
get
a
whole
surge
of
different
frequencies,
really
strange,
like
thousands
upon
thousabds,
makes
a
certain
wave,
it's
like
a
Okay,
|this
pin
prick,
this
pin
prick,
does
it
come
from
Someplace
and
go
to
someplace,
how
is
it
polarized
in
terms
of being
pin
pricked?
ease
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(mumble)
from
somewhere
else,
it's
like,
it
just
Appears
there.
All
right.
Is
it
related
in
some
way
to
the
pedestal?
Ah. ...yes
and
no,
it's
just
that
happens
to
be
the
localized
place
that
was
targeted.
There’s
something
special
about
the
pedestal
that
has
to
do
with
that
location.
The
focus
of
this
focal
comes
from
some
other
place
that,
it's
like
it
doesn't
go
through
media
(mumble)
it
goes
through
some
other
kind
of
media.
Okay,
now
the
pedestal
has
something
to
do
with
focus
and
this
pin
prick,
is
that
correct?
That
' s
correct
.
Now,
I
want
you
to
do
a
quick
look
at
the
other
dome
and
see
if anything
else
goes
on
over
there
at
the
same.
Or
maybe
it's
inoperative,
I
don't
know,
go
look
.
.1
just
get
that
exposed
flame
feeling
there
still.
It's,
they're
like
ah. ..looking
at
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the
tips
of
little
flames,
like
looking
up
to
the
bottom
of
a
rocket
motor
would
be
like,
but
having
a
lot
of
rockets
on
it,
all
(mumble)
on
it.s
Okay,
perhaps
you
can
sketch
that
for
me
later
and
show
me
the
"T"
shape
building
and
the
two
domes.
I
want
you
to
go
back
now
over
to
the
pin
prick
and
the
pedestal
and
that
senario
you've
explained
to
us
and
look
around
for
some
persons.
I
have
ah. ...some
people
that
are
obviously
observing
this
as
well.
All
right,
let's
approach
an
appropriate
one
and
ask
them
to
explain
to
you
what
this
is
all
about.
Fear
from
this
person.
It's
like
they're
ah. ..afraid
of what
they're
seeing.
All
right.
You
know
how
to
go
beyond
that
fear.
They're
not
very
ah
not
very
open,
these
people.
It's
like
they're
mystified
in
what
they're
seeing.
You
know
how
to
go
beyond
that.
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I
just
keep
getting
this
really
ripping
feeling
from
them
like
they
want
to
turn
around
and
run
away,
but
they
can’t.
They’re
second
desire
is
to
throw
themselves
down
and
worship
this
light,
aura
or
whatever
this
apparition
thing
is.
Okay.
Let’s
find
one
of
the
individuals
that’s
a
little
less
emotionally
involved.
.....Yep,
I
got
somebody
that
thinks
that
this
is
an
effect
...
from
another
location,
it’s
ah
like
a
broadcasting
of
a
focal
point
and
ah
and
apparently
this
is
just
a
side
effect
to
the
r eal
.
.
. ah
.
.
.
,
objective,
I
guess
the
real
objective
can’t
be
viewed
or
seen,
only
the
outline
effect.
Say
ah. ...like
an
altering
of
reality,
like
ah. ..I
don’t
know
how
to
explain
it,
like
ah...
putting
your
finger
tip
on
a
ball
and
calling
it
ah....
point
tangent
with
another
area.
Okay,
I
can
understand
all
that.
What
I
need
to
know
is
the
nitty-gritty,
mechanics
of
how
they
do
what
they
do
right
here
at
this
location.
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# 66
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Describe
the
machinery
that
does
this
#01:
(mumble)
bar
magnet,
coils
on
either
end
very
large,
lower
part
is
probably
ah
1500
meters
long,
on
each
end
are
two
large
light
green
kind
of
coils,
produces
a
ah,...
ELF
output.
There’s
a
flat
building
next
to
it.
It’s
essentially
a
power
unit
of
some
kind.
Produces
the
energy
to
energize
Jrtfe
the
magnetic
coils.
There’s
ah
some
kind
of
shielding
around
the
coils,
kind
of
like
covers
the
coils.
Also
get
an
impression
of
intense
heat
when
this
is
energized.
That’s
all
I
get,
besides
a
bunch
of
cables
running
everywhere.
#66:
All
right.
I’ll
ask
you
of
course
to
draw
this
later
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