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#66:
This
will
be
a
CENTER
LANE
Interview
for
1000
hours
December
1983.
Relax
and
focus
your
attention
now
on
the
individual
in
the
photograph
I've
shown
you.
Relax
and
focus
your
attention
on
the
morning
hours
7:00
to
8:30,
July
1983.
Focus
and
describe
the
individual's
location
to
me.
#01:
....A
building
with
a. ..light
colored
exterior.
Ah
ah. ..he's
a ... approaching
it
sideways,
from
the
side ,... going
through
a
small
door,
entering
it ,... instead
of
walking
into
the
building ,... going
through
some
hallway
and
a. ..work
area.
It
doesn't
appear
to
be
anybody
else
there
however
Ah. .some
impression
he's
a. ..taking
something,
stealing
something,
ah.... some
kind
of
government
type
information.
(mumble) .... have
him
going
through
file
records
and
things
#66:
Okay.
I
don't
recognize
this
location.
#01:
It's
difficult,
it's,
I
just
get
a... a
standard
inverted
"V"
roof
line
with
white
walls,
no
windows,
single
side
door
surrounded
by
parking
lot
or
parking
area
It's
like
he
just
slipped
into
the
side
door
and
went
in
and
didn't
meet
anyone,
went
through
some
hallways
just
like
in
an
office.
Ah... went
to
some
files
in
a
cabinet,
pulled
some
papers
and
left.
#66:
Okay,
let's
go
to
a
time
before
this,
focusing
on
July
1983.
#01:
Okay.
#66:
To
a
time
before
this.
# 01
:
#66:
July
1983.
#01:
Ah.. getting
coming
down
or
climbing
down
a
flight
of
steps,
metallic
steps
coming
from
somewhere,
....but
it's
not
an
airplane,
it's
a. ..steel
structure
of
some
kind
I
don't
see
anything .... specif ic
,
I
just
keep
getting
I'll
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say
an
image
of
him
either... in
the
house
or
building
or
whatever
it
is
with
the
files
or. .see
him
in
a
restaurant,
he's
sitting
in
a
restaurant
early
.
#66:
Tell
me
about
the
restaurant.
#01:
Ah
smaller
than
what
I
would
consider
norm,
six
tables,
counter,
sits
at
the
table,
he's
not
eating
anything,
he's
drinking
something.
Ah...
second
person
comes
up,
ah. ..hands
him
something
he
dropped.
Goes
away.
#66:
Describe
the
things
he
has
with
him.
#01:
His
a
got
a
case,
case
of
some
sort
with
a.... some
kind
of
important
papers,
they're
in
an
envelope,
there's
or
of
them.
#66:
Okay,
what
else
does
he
have
besides
the case?
#01:
Ah
see
an
object
by
inch
by
inches,
_
obviously
that's
a
case
as
well.
Ah.. inside
is
a... very
small
circuit
board.
Looks
like
some
kind
of
device
of
some
kind,
electronic
device.
#66:
Does
he
do
anything
with
this
small
by
by
6?
#01:
Wrapped
it
in
something
and
dropped
it
on
the
floor,
his
napkin
or
his
cloth
or
something ,.... along
with
some
papers
of
some
kind,
rolled
up.
#66:
What
else
does
he
have
with
him?
#01:
See
a
flip
up
black
armarture
type
thing
with
an
antenna
sticking
out
of
it,
built
in
the
corner
of
his
case.
He's
got
a
gun
with
him.
#66:
And
what
else?
#01:
...I'm
looking
here
Kind
of
a
letter,
what
I
call
letter
but
it's
not
a
letter
in
the
formal
sense,
it's
something
else.
#66:
Are
these
in
the
case?
#01:
No,
that's
inside
his
coat
pocket
or
his
jacket
pocket.
That's
all
I
get.
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#66:
Okay.
Let's
go
in
time
just
a
little
bit
different
to
when
he
first
arrives
in
the
restaurant,
to
when
he
very
first
arrives
in
the
restaurant.
#01:
He's
a. ..it's
really
strange,
I
had
a
strange ... let
me
try
to
recapture
that.
There's
something
different
here
It's
like
he
I
have
him
coming
in
and
sitting
down
and
or
having
getting
up
and
going
somewhere
and
getting
this
case,
but
I
can't
tell
where
it
is,
cause
all
I
see
are
walls,
they're
blank.
#66:
Okay.
As
he
walks
in,
just
as
he
walks
in,
inventory
the
items
he
carries
with
him.
#01:
He's
carrying
a
briefcase,
which
is
aside
from
the
papers
is
essentially
empty.
He
goes
.into
the
back
of
this
place
to
a
room
with
blank
walls,
and
that's
where
the
case
is.
Turns
around,
opens
the
door
and
leaves
and
leaves
an
envelope
with
papers
in
it
on
the
counter,
on
the
table
in
this
room
with
walls.
He
goes
black
out
through
the
restaurant,
sits
down.
There's
something
in
this
case
that
he
doesn't
want
and
evidently
that's
what
he
rolls
in
this
napkin
and
throws
away.
It's
something
to
do
with
a... a.. the
way
it's
covered
or
the
way
it's
wrapped.
That
is
the
object
that
he
doesn't
want.
#66:
And
how
does
he
get
rid,
how
does
he--?
#01:
Wraps
the
piece
in
a
napkin
and
throws
it
away.
Symbolic,
I
guess,
he's
throwing
it
on
the
floor,
but
he's
actually
getting
rid
of
it.
#66:
Okay,
describe
the
getting
rid
of
it.
#01:
Walking
to
a
trash
can
and
throwing
it
away.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
This
a... this
a
thing
came
to
him
from
another
individual
that
a... left
it
in
this
room
with
walls,
white
walls.
#66:
Okay.
I
have
no
further
questions
about
the
morning
July
1983.
If
you
have
anything
to
add,
do
so
now.
#01:
Just
a
minute.
That's
all
I
got.
#66:
Okay,
good.
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