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HU-1042/TNG/03
#66:
This
will
be
a
CENTER
LANE
training
interview
for
0900
hours
October
1983.
The
time
is
0900
hours.
Acquire
the
local
site.
#03:
Trees.
#66:
Correct.
#03:
Open.
#66:
Correct.
#03:
Road.
#66:
Near
the
site.
#03:
Swings.
#66:
Near
the
site.
#03:
Like
an
antenna.
Break.
#66:
Okay,
now
write
AOL,
antenna,
break.
Acquire
the
local
site.
We're
still
on general
concepts
now.
#03:
Rolling.
#66:
Correct.
#03:
Grassy.
#66:
Correct.
#03:
Cable.
#66:
Can't
feedback.
#03:
#66:
Report.
#03:
.
. Miss ... Break
#66:
Okay.
We're
now
going
to
move
into
the
sensory
area,
so
the
next prompter
I
give
you
,
we're
going
to
move
the
stage
arena.
Tell
me
how
the
situation
feels
to
you,
the kinesthetics,
the
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feelings,
the
sensory
inputs
that
come
from
the
site.
Acquire
the
site.
Cool,
shady.
Correct
.
Breeze.
Correct
.
Gravelly
ground.
All
right.
Now
from
your
posturing,
is
that
a
confusion
break?
Description
break.
It's
hard
to explain
it.
Okay.
If
it's
hard
to
explain,
it's
a
confusion
break
.
Well,
I
know
what
it
is
but
I,
it's
kind
of
gritty
ground,
I
can
kind
of
feel
crunchy
as
you
walk
around
on
it,
crunchy,
maybe
that's
the
word
I
want.
Okay.
We
have
a,...
listen
to
what
you
said
now.
You
have
a
walking
around.
You
have
a
sound,
"crunchy"
and
you're
trying
in
your
head
to
figure
all
that
out,
which
means
you
are
not
reporting
the
signal
line
fast
enough
or
we
have
to
slow
down
the
input,
so
that
you
have
time
to
report
it.
Okay,
so
we're
working
on
stage
2s
and
they
don't
come
linearly,
they
come
in
chunks.
You
had
a
too
much
break
.
Too much break.
You
had
a
too much
break.
That's
because
all
of
them
happen
in
conjunction
like
that.
Yes.
A
too much
break.
And
while
we
were
talking,
I
had
the
impression
of
dried
leaves,
which
is
not unexpectable
.
That's
fine.
Okay
you
had
a
too
much
break.
Okay,
compose
yourself.
Okay,
let
me
put
this
down
here.
Okay.
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#66:
Stage
2s,
acquire
the
the
local
site.
#03:
Rustle.
#66:
Probably
Correct.
#03:
Leaf
fall
sound.
#66:
Probably
correct.
#03:
#66:
All
right,
you
had
a
sigh
and
a
worry
and
something
there,
what?
Declare
what
went
on
in
your
head.
/
#03:
It
was probably
again
a
too much break.
#66:
All
right.
Get
a
new piece
of
paper.
# o:5:
Okay,
I've
got
a
curved
road
going
through
the
woods
like
that
in
the
shade.
#66:
Curved
road
going
through
the
woods
in
the
shade
near
the
site.
Okay,
too much break
#03:
#66:
Acquire
the
local
site.
#03:
.
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. .Confusion.
#66:
Break.
Okay,
now
declare
your
confusion.
You
say
I
have
a confusion
break,
now
you
declare.
Tell
me
about
your confusion.
# l-) -5:
Oh,
I
was
getting
all
sorts
of
picnic
ground
sort
of
images,
garbage
cans,
water
faucets,
those
all
outdoor.
#66:
Write
all
those
in,
outdoor,
picnic
table,
garbage
cans.
Yeah,
okay,
that's
fine.
Okay
we're
looking
exclusively
for
stage
feelings
about
the
target, only
those
things,
so
that
includes
colors
and
sounds,
and
so
forth.
All right
#03:
Okay.
#66:
So
write
down
a
little
S2
on
your
paper.
All
right,
acquire
the
local
site.
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#03:
Brown.
#66:
Correct.
#03:
Hard
and
cool.
#66:
Correct.
#03:
#66:
Is
that
a confusion
break
I
detect.
#03:L
An
analytic
break
#66:
A0L
break,
declare.
#03:
I
get
rocks.
#66:
All
right.
_
Acquire
the
site.
#03:
Rough.
#66:
Correct.
I
get
a
stage
one,
whatever,
I
don’t
know,
down,
AOL
it's
like
a
valley.
# 66
'-
Correct.
Let’s
stay
on
the
break
now,
we're
on
break
now.
You
are
no
longer
on
site.
#03:
All
right.
^66:
Tell
me
about
this
down,
is
it
an
up
looking
down,
a
up
and
down,
something
down
below,
tell
me
about
the
AOL.
It's
like,
I'll
tell
you how
I
got
it.
It
was
like
I
was
standing
there
in
the
edge
of
the
woods,
turned
around
looked
out,
and
there's
just
kind
of
a
little
swale
that
goes
off
in
to
the
distance,
then
you
see
something
out
there.
It's
a
gradual
smooth
sort
of
a
ground.
#66:
Okay,
now are
you
telling
me
you
had
a
visual?
#03:
Yeah.
#66:
Okay.
At
this
stage
in
the
game,
visuals
are
AOL.
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Your
mind
is
trying
to
make
something
visual,
this
signal,
this
remote
viewing
stuff,
at
this
stage,
is
not
visual.
That's
why
I
put
A0L
valley
down
here.
Very
good,
very
good.
There
may
in
fact
be
a
valley
or
a
down
component,
but
your
mind
tries
to
make
you
go
visual
on
it
and
it's
properly
declared
as
an
A0L.
That's
what
most
of
my
images
are,
or
what
most
of
these
things
turn
up
as
visuals.
But
there
I
try
and interpret
the
essence
of
what
that
is.
Well,
when
you
try
to
interpret
the
essence
you
are
spending
too
much
time.
That's
fine.
Draw
a
line
across
your
paper.
Write
s2,
acquire
the
site.
AOL
break.
I
get
a
lot
of
these.
Hard,
cool
metal
girder.
Okay
.
So
hard
and
cool
if
it's
in
there.
Okay,
visual
of
a
hard
cool metal
girder.
Yes,
red.
Red
in color.
All
right.
Acquire
the
site.
Hollow
sound.
Probably
correct.
Okay.
You've
got
to
do
something
it's
been
too
long.
I've
got
a
..well
it's
a
break.
All
right.
I
guess
a confusion
break.
Okay.
A
new
piece
of
paper.
Now
summarize
your
stage
and
stage
signals.
Go
back
and
look
at
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