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. TIME +07 . +09 +15 eS . Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : clAR #66: #66: #11: #66: #11: #66: #11: #66: #11: 000200450001-1 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION cCD-52 This will be a remote viewing session for 0900 hours, 17th of June 1980. PAUSE Relax and concentrate now. Relax and focus your attention on the target for today. Focus your attention on the photograph I have shown you. Relax and concentrate and focus your attention on the photograph I have shown you. Move your awareness now to the position in space/time at which the photograph was taken. Move now to the position in space/time at which the photograph was taken. And as you approach this area in space/time describe the surroundings. PAUSE I'm getting a feeling for a large, open training area with rolling hills and clumps or islands of trees all around. Okay, move to an altitude now and locate this area. Well, along with the same data dump is the picture was taken from a great distance, by somebody in a clump of - one of the clumps of trees. Okay. Focus your attention on the tank now and not on the individual taking the photograph and move above the tank to an altitude and describe this area. Locate this area, in the greater sense from an altitude. The area is typical of training area, it could be a train~ ing area anywhere from East Germany and Poland to somewhere west of the Ural mountains, in Russia. Okay, move to an altitude of 125 nautical miles so that you may see below you as indicated by your imagery where in that great expanse below you this training area is. PAUSE The only impressions I get and I can't shake ‘em is somewhere within the borders of the Soviet Union itself, west , somewhere west of Moscow area. I had a -— for some reason - I had a 00450001-1
_Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDPQ§ #11: #66; #1l: #66: #11: #66: #il: +21 #66: #11: #66; Fl: #66: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RB p290450001-1 most difficult time, I know it's west of the Moscow area but I'm not sure whether it's northwest, or directly west or gouthwest, I have several differént overlying impressions. Alright, you can draw me a sketch map and indicate those impressions to me later. At this time focus your attention back down on the equipment on the tank itself and place your hand on the equipment as it sits back in space/time in the photograph. Tell me when you can see it. I'm as close as I'm gonna get. Alright, keeping your hand on the equipment, keeping your hand on the tank, for continuity purposes you must keep your hand on this piece of equipment. I've got my hand on the special armor side of it. Fine. For continuitys sake you must keep your hand on this piece of equipment. On the tank itself. Now listen very carefully to what I say. We're going to move again, but you must keep your hand on the tank. Move with the tank through space/time to the point of final assembly of this equipment. Move with the tank through space/time to the place of final assembly of the equipment. Describe this location to me. PAUSE It wouldn't do any good to describe it to you. Tell me a little bit about it. Well, there's long buildings, some of them connect end-on-end, there's all kinds of manufacturing going on, there's piles of material and stuff outside, there's rail, rail lines coming in, there's rail... There's , there's even tractors and trailers to haul the equipment out, there's , there are other . tanks at this location, sitting out but not the same type. It's a. . .it's a huge complex of manufacturing. Now, as you did before focus your attention on this area that you found move to an altitude and locate it for me. I think I already gave you the answer. I. . . impression it's north and west of the greater Moscow area, and where it was, the photo taken was southwest of the Moscow area. I'm using a very broad circle around the Moscow area as a reference point. Do I understand that you feel there are two points here, one at which the photograph was taken and one as the point of manufacture? 3@000200450001-1
-Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA- #11: #66: #11: #66: #Al: #66: #11: #66: #11: #66: #11: #66: #1l: #31: Fl: #31: #11: #31: Asolutely. Do you have them sufficiently indicated to you so that you might show me on a schedule? Well, for what it's worth. I have no further questions about the target. If you have anything you'd like to add, please do so now. The photograph was not taken by an American. Perhaps French or British. , What is the raw imagery that makes you say that? Whoever took the picture was in uniform. I perceive a uniform. Uniform looks more British that anything else. Is he physically wearing this uniform at the time he took the picture? I'm not sure, that's the impression I'm getting. Anything further you'd like to add? No, not at this time. Alright. Let's prepare to draw then. The training area I was looking at was. . I dont's know, it' just a.typical. . a.. wide swath with lots of tracks and stuff all over it and there seemed to be islands of woods and trees in between and some lower bushes and things like that. Here's another group. I had the feeling, and this doesn't make sense because there's trees right in my way, but X marks the spot where there appeared to be a vehicle here, a sedan type, with military personnel, maybe an attache or something. The tank was over here. Do you have a feel for that size of distance there? No. It was a great distance, several hundred yards, anyhow, half mile, quarter mile. Alrighty, uh, then #66 had you go about 125 nautical miles so ..you. could see where this location was. And you had this re- petitive feeling that you couldn't shake that you were somewhere in the Soviet Union near Moscow? Yeah. You initially said west of Moscow and then you said. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP98-007.88R000200450001-1
.Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000200450001-1 #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : ClAsiMROG=aG@g) Well, if, let's see, I don't mean to cut you off there. What do they call those mountains? Oh... Urals... PAUSE And over here are the satellite countries like Poland and, uh, East Germany, C.5.5.R., etc., etc. . . And I was cutting a swath in that direction. Now at one point in time I felt I was down south, and I put that, I feel that's where the training area may have been. Okay. And, I don't know, somwhere up, and I'm talking about quadrants, somwhere up in this quadrant somewhere or maybe even closer to the Moscow area, or maybe even further north, somewhere in the quadrant up above between the X's. . . was the manufacturing area. Okay. Now let me, I'm gonna have to ask you some questions about your sketch. You have a circle around the. . the Moscow area there, a dotted line. That's just, right, that's the greater Moscow area. Okay, do you have a feeling for distances or magnitudes of distances, Ore .. © No. Not really. It was really tough. I'm getting the feel~ ing right now it may have been much closer to the Moscow area than what it appears on this, on this map here. Okay. But it was anywhere from a direction of directly north from cenber, west to west-northwest, up in here. And the training area was further south. Okay. Just before the debriefing here you mentioned that. the manufacturing area was somewhat familiar to you, although it did look like just about every other mamifacturing area, but it did have some familiar points to it. MThis't1l be sketch three. I have a long building, a space, and a shorter building, and it seemed what I saw appeared to be a loading ramp off the end of this long building, and there were rail lines coming into there. It appeared that, that, the building or, there appeared to be a building over this ramp or something, but there was a space in between that, and the long building. Uh, somewhere down in this area I had the feeling that there were several tanks parked out in the open. But they were not 800200450001-1
. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP§ AFRO 46 200450001 -1 #SL: #1l: #31: #11: #31: #11: #Sl: #11: #31: #11: #SL: #1l: #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : you made a comment that you had your hand on the special armor siding. The skirt. Okay. It appeared to be, and I know what you're going to ask, it, it, somehow when I put my hand on there, it's a layered, honeycomb—type, high-resistance material. Okay. Now what was the point approximately that you perceived that you were in contact with the vehicle, on. this, on the photo, what we'll do is we'll make a copy of this and I'11 ask you to X it after the session. Okay, it's just forward of center. Just forward of center, okay. Yeah, on the side. Which would be, you pcinted to a place that's above one, two, three, four, fifth wheel, fifth road wheel from the rear. Okay, right about in here. One, two, three, four. Right. Okay. Alright. You have anything more to add on that? t don't. Okay. r000200450001-1
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. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDPB Project 8003 170900 Jun 80 Session CD-52 I. CUING DATA: a. b. shown a photo of target item. informed only RV and only he can provide necessary verification data being sought. il. a. b. taken. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA EET: focus attention on the photo move to the position in space/time at which the photograph was (1) describe surroundings. (2) move to altitude and locate this area. . .identify focus attention on equipment move in space/time to the place of final assembly of the equipment. (1) describe (2) move to altitude and locate the area. Identify. -RD P94-00788R000200450001-1
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Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP3t ove SG1A Approved For Release 2000/08/ $2000200450001-1 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD 19 Jun 80 SUBJECT: Session CD-52 Targeting Data 1. (S/NOFORN) This was #1l's first session against this facet of Project 8003. Previously, #11 had suffered two aborted sessions and three completed sessions against Project 8003a using only SG1A geographic coordinates, session-derived imagery, and a target photo grid matrix as targeting data. It must be noted that this session is the first in which targeting of this RVer was accomplished using a photo of any equipment bearing resemblance to the actual equipment being sought. a. (S/NOFORN) Prior to this session, #11 was shown an original photo of the equipment. A facsimile of that photo is shown at Inclosure 1, this MFR. b. (S/NOFORN) Prior to this session, #11 was informed that he would be required to "move in time" to the space/time location at which the photo was originally taken; and that while in the session, other space/time movement would be asked of him. c. (S/NOFORN) The above constitutes the only targeting data provided #11 prior to or during this session. 2. (S/NOFORN) This was #66's eighteenth session as interviewer for Project 8003. As such, #66 was aware of a compilation of preceding targeting and SGIA session imagery data against Project 80030 MM and Project 8003B a #66 had facilitated no previous Project 8003c session and had not been exposed to the targeting photo until just prior to the session. 1 Incl as GLASSIFIED BY v , 4: BE oO Oz 7 ¢~ OR neVIEW ON aay sdbtO EXTENDED BY erent REASON CRITLT. FLAME it Ss Tia y an ' : i i