Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 +35 #31 #14 #31 I'm definitely getting a (sigh)....... feel that I am outside in open area. The building seems to want to take a Y shape now instead of aT. he arms of this Y curve. They'ré not...and in the enter of this curve is a feeling of a circular drive (phonetic) with a park-like bumps in the middle with ...domed shaped which is not very big but is a garden spot Looking at the Y from this I want to say there are two outside sets of steps that come on the left and on the right. I'm...I'm losing fast here. I'm going to have to..... I'm afraid of the quality now. I'm getting alot of overlay. Two up there at the surface. I cant keep my interruptions out. There's something in the middle of this bump. Some sort of a circular pattern a drive or gravel or something that makes a circle in it. Oh! God! That was weird. Relax and stretch. Debrief, debrief. Ok. the first thing that I am going to talk about is fleeting images that occurred to me or that spontaneously occurred to me just before the start of this session. Within 10 or 15 seconds from the start of this session. Uh...I had this spontaneous imagery of a male figure is all I can say. Male figure. Whether it was our subject or not, I don't know. Our target, I don't..... but the context of this figure, I saw it lying on its back in a prone position. Simultaneous to seeing that, I saw two...I felt like two words flashed across the image. The first word on top, I don't know what it was. I tried to remember it then I lost it. The second word which came across simultaneously and below was vengeance and I was able to remember that one as being the last spontaneous verbage or feeling...anyway..... It was as though I was reading it and it was moving across the TV screen. I read it and I couldn't remember the first one because I had to read it first. I remembered the last one. That happened right at the time #14 turned the tape on. You know. Looking at that and it disappeared and I heard the shuffle and the click of the tape going on....so I cleared that as best I could thinking that it was just some sort of spontaneous imagery. The first imagery I got after the start of the session. was this initial very, very, first feeling that I was in 4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 4 a place that had a two layered low ceiling. I'il draw on 1 the feeling that there was a ceiling here and the ceiling went back like this and came down. Like this. Like a carved out subsceiling within a room. These ceilings here..... the forward face of the ceiling would be circles....had circles on it which at first 1 thought were lights but, I hesitate to call them lights. The underlayer of this false ceiling or this ceiling section had these circles on it as well. There, that makes it look a little bit better. That goes like that perspective wise. All right.That's it. All right here's a corner. Do I go ahead and change that (mumbling)...... This is the ceiling here and here is the section with the dots on it is this lowered section of ceiling that comes down. That was li. Then, I had the feeling that 1 was moving to the wall or had moved to the wall when I went to 2 ...I had as though I was leaning against that wall with my right shoulder and........ here...that was the false ceiling and that leaning on the wall here on the nih) side of the ceiling thing...that in this wall were squares cut...or not cut....were squares. Now my perspective is all shot to hell, now. Like this. That's not bad, I guess, now that I think about it. Ok. Like this. Many squares as though they were drawers or lockers at....I thought they might have been lockers or pull-out drawers with curious little rings on the top of each one of them, ok. Small rings. Finger size rings where you simply insert an index finger and it will slide up over your finger and you give it a tug, ok That should go like that. There we go. Like that. That's the feeling. This was in an illuminated area...same curious circular pattern ....-. ceiling here......and, this is some sort of a long narrow.....aS we GO on will Show.....Okeescccseevenes #14 Ok. Why don't I go ahead and turn the tape over now? #31 Ok. #14 #31 Already I had the feeling of standing in_the New Yor subway on a rang -. mot that it's in Ne : icture train pulling that's long Ss | hall.. _.people| get off and stand on this lighted tancioal Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 fi : back wall of this landing are these locker square that are built into a nice shiney*linoleum or..or shinny polished stone. That's important. It's a very light and bright polished stone and there's light out here...or at least...it may not be coming from those circles but there is light emanating down. (Hum Ling) The feeling out here was that there was in under the earth...and, you know.....along the y bi 2 That's not a good sketch. But, this is “darkened tunnel. This is a darkened hall or tunnel. All right. This light label that I have here, I just underlined it at the end of this thing does not mean that there is light at the end. It is to mean that there is light inside this thing. The end itself is dark as well. My first imagery there. Polished stone here, and this facing here felt like polished stone. Marble. I had the feeling that the facings on these drawers or whatever they are, that these were also stone but I didn't feel that they were metal or anything. None of this was a metal feeling like that. It was very, very weird. Then I had a feeling that I was inside one of these -ethe one that I was drawn to...ok, was about...I kept like being drawn to one which ..or one of these squares which was about chest high and just to the right of center, I think......just to the right of center as though it was...as though it was...say the one with the X in it. All right. In 3 I had this feeling of peaking out of the drawer or peaking out from behind one of these squares. That was a really weird feeling. It was as though...there was just a small crack of light...ok. Really bizarre! I can't get over it. Just a small crack of light and looking out I could see, you know, these things that were out on the landing. These circular things here, ok. The hallway ceiling on the other side of it.. was dark...e.. Ok..eee somehow those....somehow those connect together..... and then this darkness here which was the far side of the room.....was dark or where this hall was was dark. This is all dark here. Crack of light looking out of the, because that's precisely what I was doing, wall through a small crack. All right. Where was I. For some reason I automatically bounced and I had the feeling of an aerial VieW.. ccc eee ceeeaeee 6 Approved | For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 pment
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 e very long, very, very peculiarly long a skinny building with many windows in it. Wind in it like that. That should be relocated back here I drew... the building without putting ...... e one end of it. The spire of some kind. Tall and skinny~a ok. Oh, in that..uh. the roof is peaked, like that with lines in it. As though it was slate or tile. All right. Then I went back in. That was all I got back there. Then I went back in. Drawing back into this place 4 5. What was my next one then. Again, I found myself just standing on this thing that resembled a subway or some sort of a room off a dimly lit hallway looking and bouncing off these squares. But, then I got the feeling that, ok, here in the foreground was a wall and in the background was my wall. We'll call it my wall, ok with all the squares in it there. Ok. These are ordered squares. I'm just sorting of looking through here because I['m...five minutes of square drawing is a little too hard for anybody to handle. I haven't been in this game for awhile....... Ok..eee these squares..... Okeeees these are the squares with the little "D" rings in 'em. Again the feeling of... ok....here is this overhead which makes the false ceiling of this place. Ok. Probably should eliminate that. Yeah. Eliminate that because this false ceiling comes around it. It's part of this hallway. Ok. This is the....there's this circles that are in the false ceiling part that is going up ana this is the ...I'1ll call it side of ceiling false, ok. This is looking in from the hall....hall question mark because I don't know what it is. Moved back up to the wall again and sketch 2 had taken on a alighty modified complexion and that is that here ok, ok, uh...and here is the darkened hall going off like that. “Now, how do I describe that? Darken hall going that way, ok. Darkened cei ing there and I felt it was elevated, toc, by a seep . Ok, this is partitioneg Vall. es back in h like this. I'll callfit a false wall, ok, and that here on this was a split teg ke , . And then...in other words the do vould be behind....ok on sketch 5 I'll, I'll show you in dotted lines. The 7 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 f cemmgmegenectn es semana
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 door would be here behind this wall if you looked at it right from the front. Ok. I'll add to 5 here an edge of some kind because-it is an edged... edge...-. .edge of quote “landing ok, and then this is dark here because that's out in the hall !cause you're locking in the hall. Ok. Back to sketch 6...uh..these are the door.... and then again are....I'1l just draw one set with ditto marks....I don't know what I'm going to do.... ok...-and then here again are these funny things.... you can see them in the wall, ok, ok, like that. Now the only other thing....the only next thing I can do for you is you said the wall was no problem. Now for some reason, I really did not want to go through the wall. I really had this very overpowering sensation what I was looking for and the guy I was looking for was in the wall. Ok. All sorts of very bizarre thoughts was going through my mind. None of them goad. I had the image of him stuffed into a locker. I had the image of him on a slab in a morgue. I did not have any good feeling at all up to this point. Very, very, a heavy...-uh....negative feeling. Ok. And, then, wheth I was making something more from this point on I don't know. Ok. Then I had the feeling that yes, I could... I couldn't go through the wall but I could go around it. All right...and, so I went down to where this double door is ...-the other end of 6.....at the distant end of sketch 6, there. I proceeded through this double door and immediately upon preceeding through the door I felt the catacomb. Now I felt the catacomb feeling before. I was getting feelings of carve out rack and everything, but I didn't have any imagery of it. I felt that I was in underground....definitely underground type thing....o0k..... I went through the double door and it's as though..... on doing sc I entered the catacomb idea. In other words, a carved out rock passageway that led off away from the building even, but it went off somewhere, and that my guy was actually hiding in a little carved out room in part of this catacomb which was behind this funny wall that I kept looking at ok. And, that's when I was talking about cloister... not cloister but I was talking about grotto and grotto underground, hiding away...you know...hidden away from people. So for 7 I'll draw you an overhead type diagram. Probably the best way to describe it. Approved F For Release 2000/08/07 : Gia- RDP96-00788R000800650001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800650001-3 4 #31 This is the landing edge. Here is the false wall. On each end is the false wall. Each end. There's a false wall on each end. It's symetrical in that feeling anyway. Here were the daors. This is the grotto feeling...grotto catacomb feeling began and that back behind here was this...was this place. Cavern, cr carved rock, carved room (sigh). I don't know if there was a door on that end but it's symetrical, and this is the wall with squares. Ok. Then for 8 I'll give you a sketch of what I saw in there and that is just this. Imagine this roughly carved out room. Just very, very rock wall with a single light bulb hanging down from somewhere in this corner. I didn't even get in anything. It's just....it's an unshielded....unshielded is the word .».-unshielded light bulb in this cavernous room. To the...to the grotto hall and that in here, then, oh, I need to number that. That's 8. And, in here was this guy....or a guy hiding away. All right. And, that he was sitting at some sort of a rough hewn table. Sitting there, ok. Man in...man in grotto .».boy this really sounds like.....man in grotto hideaway.....-it really is. I'll tell you talking about...really, you think, you think that's bad you ough to be the guy vere here talking about this stuff. . then | that you are flipping nuts... Anyway Man in grotto T But, the thin get that word catacomb out. Orecisely the wand I was looking fo #14 Perhaps that has some very heavy meaning. #31 These are barron, bumpy rock walls and the floor is the same. I'm not kidding you. I've been through the catacombs in Rome. It was as though I was back in the catacombs in Rome. Anybody that is rea...-. ...that is listening to this or reading this and they've ever been there will know just what...what T am talking about. All right. Then I went back outside. I pretty well bubbled to the top and I went back outside. I waited a little bit and then tried to go back out. I figured I wasn't getting anywhere here ...or anymore. My | building then took .....I had a side view of this building first.....s. ok.....-definite feeling of...the cathedral approach again...you know....a monestery or something approach here would be....with little...with Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96- 00788R000800650001 3
Approved For Release 2000/08/0 Zxmbechiainiuuas 6 -00788R000800650001 -3 4 oe) little curvy windows there sticking up. Again, the feeling of four or five rows of windows. I'm not going to say stories. I'm saying rows of windows. Very little windows. Véry tall and skinny structure. Here we go with these little squares again. For a fleeting moment, I wanted to put..uh..for a fleeting moment I wanted to put..uh..a stairway entrance on one end of it. Ali right. Here's a perspective again. Don't worry I won't do all the windows. Ok. Now, presumably this cap stand or this cathedral type thing here on the front : is the front right..... and then according/to my sketch when I came back here I would se - But, instead I went up in the air and [I eling that this place was more Y shaped than! s Like this. I got the feeling of..uh..that was my feeling of curve. Ok, that's just a feeling of curve there. That's all I want to get across on this. Building becomes Y instead of T. Then my last sketch Then my last sketch 11. I'm looking at....here's li..... I had this ..... I have this feeling of a circular pattern.....drive or walkway, ok and that here in the background this is white, garden bump. I could find flowers and stuff on it. Whether it is a circular drive or just a circular pattern, I don't know. The radiating forks of this building are like this. In other words, I'm up in here looking back in the background and that..... I want to do it this way....there are staircases.....let me tell you something if this thing is a miss I know just.... I won't have any trouble identifying a miss again. Let me tell you. Another thing. The whole building is dark brown stone feeling. There's the roof. There's the roof to the other part of the building... would be there...and the background you would have the dome...... dome in the background. What did 1 want to do there? Oh. Then 2, the many windows ok. All right. And, the only other thing that I can throw in that I seemed to recall is just as I was beginning to fade out I had the feeling that the light circular pattern had emanating rays off of it. Like little walk..... ok. feeling like that. That's it. That's all I got but I didn't get any good feelings about this guy at all. 10 ee Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96- in eens ae . tS -
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