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REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION DCC-87
1.
(S/NOFORN)
This report documents
a remote viewing session conducted
in
compliance with a request for information on personnel working in
a building.
2.
(S/N0F0RN)
The remote viewer's impressions of
the
target are provided
as raw intelligence data,
and as such, have not been subjected
to any
intermediate analysis,
evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility
of
the requestor.
3.
(S/N0F0RN)
The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol,
AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol
(S),
undated.
4.
(S/N0F0RN)
Following is
a transcript of
the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session.
At TAB A are drawings made by
the remote
viewer
reference his impressions of the target site.
At TAB B
is target cuing
information provided
the remote viewer.
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SESSION DCC-87
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#20.5:
This will
be a remote
viewing session for
9 July
1981,
with
a start time of 0900.
You wanna give me
a nice
test there and say "hi"?
#36:
Yeah.
One,
two,
three.
#20.5:
Okay.
Let me- this will be
a pre-session briefing,
okay,
to
the remote viewer.
At this time
I wanna show you
a
picture with
a building.
That's the target building,
and
your
task will be
to perceive the inside of
the building.
I
realize that you have worked against this project before
but not-
#36:
Not the same building.
#20.5:
That's right.
Not- and
I wanted
to stress that- not against
this specific building.
Okay?
#36:
Mm-hmm.
#20.5:
Okay.
So when your perception-
#36:
Feel like there's more
than one here.
#20.5:
What's that?
#36:
Feel like
there's more than one here.
Am
I
supposed
to look
at both
of
'em?
#20.5:
Oh, picture?
Yeah,
there's
two copies,
a dark and
a light.
I'm sorry.
Therfe's a dark copy and
a light copy.
Okay?
Now when your perception becomes clear
I will direct you
to
a specific area within the building.
And then we'll be asking
you
to perceive the building in
the
time window,
normal
working hours at
the
target location,
9 July.
And
I don't
know where
the target
is,
so that's why we wanna phrase it
that way.
You have any questions about your mission then?
#36:
No,
I don't think
so.
#20.5:
Okay.
You now have,
uh,
30 minutes in which
to relax and
then prepare yourself for todays mission.
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#20! 5:
Okay #36,
it's
time for us
to get roiling.
I want you
to
focus your attention now.
Relax,
relax and focus your
attention
on
the target.
Concentrate and focus solely and
completely
on the building in
the photograph
I
have shown
you.
Focus your perception
on
the target building and describe
the interior
to me.
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PAUSE
On
the front side,
entry. .double,
double entry. .long foyer.,
leads straight away from the entry.
Empty room on the right
side.
Through the.
. .through the door on
the right side
is
empty.,.
Straight
I
had. . .zig-zag hall
on
the left back..
Kitchen...
Some type
of stairway in the foyer,
left side...
I don't see anything much
in here.
Okay.
I don't see much furniture or anything.
Okay,
you're doing very well.
I want you
to relax now,
and
I want you
to go directly,
go directly
to the
describe it
to me.
Go directly
to and locate
and describe
it
to me.
It's not on this floor.
Okay
Went up
the stairs.. turn right,
three,
four feet,
turn right
again,
and come back towards
the front.
Turn left into
a
room.
.
.
.
Okay.
Describe this room
to me.
There's steps under the door.
Straight ahead seems
to be
relatively uncluttered, not much to look
at.
To
the left.,
safe somewhere
to the left...
Big table.
Some kinda office
machines. .the wall,
near
the wall that is adjacent
to the
hallway
.
Twll me what you sense here.
Mumbling.
Tell me whatyyou sense that makes you say office machines.
Keyboard.
I'm looking up through
a forest of stuff like big
fingers coming down towards me,
like I'm under the keyboard
looking up
at the hands coming at me...
One thing seems
a
bit bigger than
a. .typewriter.
It's got a big. ... .big. .CRT
of some kind display.
I was
try in'
to read some kinda numbers
on
the display.
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#36:
That's just on
a table,
not
a desk.
To
the
right of that
in
a corner.....
Oh,
well,
I don't know what
to make
of
this.
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#36:
Tell me-
Looks like
a safe with,
uh,
two,
uh,
two,
uh,
combinations
or something.
Heavy
safe with... it could be symbolic but it
seems
to have
two combinations,
two entry mechanisms or some-
thing.
Remember now,
focus solely at the target on
9 July
1981
during normal working hours at that location.
Focus on
the
time.
There's
a man about 30.. close
to
30,
sitting
at the
console.
It's. ..next
to
the hall,
in
the
foyer,
next
to
the. .where
the
CRT
is...
I don't see anybody else in here.
Okay.
At this
time
I want you
to expand your awareness,
expand your awareness and
tell me about any people that work
in this
that work,
that are assigned to this^^^l
Expand your awareness
to study
that situation
Appears
to be. ..two,
two women
I
can see that appears
to be...
I don't know,
under 32.. maybe
26,
28,
one of
'em.
One
of
'em
around
30.
Real
thin.. real
thin guy...
This
thin
guy,
is he
the same man you saw sitting next
to
the console?
Nope...
I
don't see him there now,
but
I
can see
that he...
aware
that his presence belongs here.
Okay
Can see him wandering around
this space
in some
time frame.
Seem
to be
a... quite intellectual
type,
awkward.
Okay.
Now,
in your own way #36,
in you own way,
contact
these people
that work here and determine which one of those
would be most likely candidate who we might get
to work for
U.S.
Intelligence,
if there are any.
In your own way contact
each one
of them and then report
to me........
The question confuses me and of course
the answer is yes
to
all of
them.
Go ahead and explain your confusion
to me.
Well it's relative...
It's a... one way
or another.
They
could each be helpful
to
the U.S. .. .whether they wanted
to
or not.
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#20.5:
Tell me what you're feeling that makes you say
that.
#36:
Oh,
they're all vulnerable.
Skinny
guy might be
the easiest.
The youngest
gal
could be
of assistance without even knowing
she had assisted.
She's
the stubbornest.
But not. .would
not betray
a confidence intentionally but... very strong
feeling about
doin'
a
thing,
doin'
a
good
for mankind.
She
could be easily
tricked.
Guy sitting at the console has
great pride,
he would.
. .convey information,
telling himself
that he wasn't hurting anybody,
that he is not betraying
a
trust.
Just
to show how smart he
is.
Skinny
guy owes no
allegiance
to anyone.
He.... feels he's above politics...
Anyone can be recruited one way
or another.
#20.5:
Okay,
but ask yourself if you could recruit one of them
which one would it be and how would you
go about doing it....
#36:
Well,
I'd
get the most valuable information from the skinny
guy but.. the
guy at the console's a piece of cake.
You make
him feel unimportant,
unintelligent..
. .he' 11 knock himself
out try in'
to prove how intelligent he
is.
Doing so he'll
talk about the only
thing he knows anything about...
#20.5:
Are you saying that if you-
#36:
That's
the rote information's been cramped
lin his head about
the
job here.
#20.5:
Okay.
Are you saying that your perception tells you that
the
guy at
the console would be
the one that should be
recruited?
#36:
No,
that's not for me
to say.
You could,
uh,
you could ex-
ploit him with the least experienced personnel.
It's gonna
take
some planning,
a great deal of intelligence and under-
standing of people
to handle
the skinny
guy or either one
of
the women...
He'd
be
the easiest.
But he doesn't seem to
know anything
of great importance,
other than
just. .procedural
type information.
#20.5:
Okay.
Now
I want you
to focus solely on each individual one
at
a time and
give me
a description of each individual
so
that we will be able
to differentiate one from the other...
#36:
Guy at the console somewhere around 30... 100 and... 50,
pounds ,
' 10"
,
11",
medium brown hair.
Seems
to prefer
checks... clothing with checks.
The younger woman.. dirty
blond hair.. 5' 6".. fairly attractive,
plain,
plain dresser,
nothing,
not gaudy
or showy,
hair. .touches sholders.
It
s
often done up.
I
keep seeing blue eyes but for some reason
I
feel rebellion
to
that,
but
I
keep seein'
the blue eyes,
and I'm not comfortable with
it.
Older woman
got the same
eyes.. heavier... dark hair.
Seems much more intelligent than
the younger woman.
Doesn't particularly care about her dress
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or appearance.
Not interested in being attractive
to men.
Dresses almost mannish.. to discourage men,
so she... she's
at work,
she doesn't want anything
to distract from that.
The skinny
guy is easy.
He's dark,
smooth hair,
slim,
small
boned. .sloppy .
Unusually
large feet,
left handed...
Almost
reminded me
of little Lord Fonbleroy
grown
up.
Delicate kind
of guy...
How tall
is he?
He looks
to be about 6 foot,
but his slimness could be de-
ceiving, between
5 'll"
and 6'1".
Okay.
Anything else you
can tell me about these individuals?
Kinda boring type individuals
to me.
I been
tryin'
to
get a
handle
on them outside
this building,
but
I
get the distinct
feeling that their personality
is considerably different
outside.
Guy at the console has.. a desire
to be noticed and
respected.
He comes off excessively macho.
Anybody indicates
to him they're not buying it he'll
go
to all lengths
to impress
him.
That's
the way
to exploit this individual.
But it
should never be hinted
to him that he
is.. doing anything wrong.
This
guy always has
the feeling that he
is.. after
the fact
that he said
too much,
but it doesn't stop him from doing it
again the next time.
Okay ...
If you could put someone
of.. .someone intellectually equal
to
the skinny guy... a great deal of knowledge could be extracted
from him.
Intellectual exercise.
Chances are he would
never recognize that anyone else would realize he was quoting
from experience.
Which would reveal
a great deal of infor-
mation about what he is doing.
Okay.
At this
time
I have no further questions.
Issthere
anything else you would like
to report on?
No,
except.. .when
I first... oh,
okay.
When
I first started
I was aware of.. .up high somewhere
in this building,
_ something
that looked like
a parabolic dish about
a meter in diameter,
very
fine mesh about. . .about
a centimeter across
the mesh.
That was when
I was wandering around,
tryin'
to wander
around
the rooms*
:
This
is somewhere in the building?
Up high somewhere
in
the building.
:
Okay.
Is there anything else you would like
to add?
No,
I
had
the distinct feeling electronics before
I
got off
the first floor.
But
I was amazed at how furniture was,
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hoy/ sparsely furnished
the place was.
That's about it.
Okay.
Okay
I want you
to relax now,
return yourself
to
present time here,
relax.
Move your
legs,
arms.
Take
a
stretch break and then we'll do
a couple drawings.
Okay,
why don't you
go ahead and explain drawing number
one.
Okay.
Are we
on there?
We are motoring.
Okay,
in drawing one,
number
one,
which
is
very crude,
uh..
I was
just moving about in there looking for something that
would appear of interest.
I remember noticing there was
a
double entry,
rather long foyer with stairs
to
the left that
I
think curved
to the right at the top.
Now you felt you came in through the front of
the building?
I
thought what-> yeah,
I
thought it was
the
front.
Uh,
it
was
a rather large entrance
so
I assumed it was
the front.
I didn't look at the whole building to see
if anything else
looked more like
a front.
Uh,
I
remember moving into the
room
to the right of the foyer near
the front that looked
rather,
rather empty,
almost deserted.
There was a piece of
furniture sitting in
the foyer which,
just to
the right,
past
that door that
I
thought looked very,
very old.
I wandered
around to
the left and recognized that was some kxnda large
study
or something.
And
I went way
into
the back and over
in
I
think
the
left corner somewhere and found the kitchen.
And
I couldn't figure
out,
you know,
I
knew there was space
in between but
I
don't know how it fits
in.
Let
me; task you
this.
This area here
to
the left of
the
stairway
that you referred
to
as
a large study.
Are you
saying that there's
a large study down in that area,
or that
whole area in
a large study?
There's a large study
in that area.
1 remember going in this
large
room,
and
I don't remember seeing windows or even
looking for windows.
I
just said hey,
there's nothing here
of interest.
Okay.
Oh yes,
I
think there's- over in here,
just study
to
the left
I
just want
to make sure we understand that.
Okay.
But
I
felt
I was bouncin'
into these places and
I wasn't
finding anything so
I really didn't pay much attention.
I
thought there was
a hallway
to
the right,
uh,
that supplied
some other rooms down there somewhere and
I
didn't
go down
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it,
I just
u/as aware that it was there.
Uh,
we started looking for
the
I went upstairs,
turned right and right again and came back and went into
the
door,
last door on the left.
Uh,
it was
a rather large room.
By
the way,
I didn't go into
the other rooms upstairs.
Uh,
I went
in there and
I
thought there was
a screen.
Around
the
other side
of
the screen was
a table or desk or something,
one of which. had some office machines on
it.
The ohly
one
I really focused on was
the one I've drawn here.
It was
a,
some kind of keyboard that seemed
to impact on
a cathode
ray tube of some
type,
like a TV
set,
that was sitting
to the
left and kinda behind it.
Uh,
I didn't get much detail
on
it.
There were other pieces of equipment sitting around.
I
didn
t
get
to examine them for some reason.
There was other furniture
in the
room.
At this time there was only
one,
or at the work-
ing time for this date
there was only one person
in
there.
And that was
the
guy that was
the one
I
think
the
guy that
preferred checks, brown hair,
about 30.
And as far as des-
cription of the room that was about
it.
Except
I
thought
there was
a awful lot of space that wasn't being used.
Very
strong feeling throughout the whole building.
#20.5:
I
think you mentioned earlier
that,
uh,
the whole building
was
void of furniture.
#36:
There's
a piece here and
there,
it just looked
it,
you
know,
some pieces might've been
left,
or someone put some stuff,
a few pieces back in there that wasn't very impressive.
It
didn't look like
it,
uh,
belonged with that type of building.
I would expect period stuff
that was rather elegant.
But
I didn't see
that.
I
really expected
to walk in there and
see beautiful carpets and brocades and things.
I didn't see
that.
Oh,
while
I was wandering around from room
to room
I became
at/ are
of
a dish shape antenna ,
parabolic,
about
a meter
in
diameter.
The mesh of
the bowl shape was about
a centimeter
across which should tell something about frequency.
Uh,
that
was about it
as far as
the building itself was concerned.
#20.5:
Okay.
Referring back
to drawing one, when you came
in did
you sense
any people?
#36:
No,
I- now
I
think of
it
I wasn't
aware
that
I
didn't see
people.
I was looking
at the room
and people could have
been there and
I wouldn't have seen
'em,
uh,
unless it was-
it just had nothing
to
do with what
I was doing.
I was looking
at space and
I
saw seeing space .
I
was totally unaware of
any people.
Strange now that you mention
it.
#20.5:
Well
no.,
sometimes-
#36:
I woulda thought I'd of stumbled over
'em,
but
I apparently
wouldn't have just looking,
looking at-
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Well sometimes since
\i/e don't dddress
the question it's not
responded
to even though
if someone says oh yeah,
there
u/as
someone
there,
but you didn't ask me about him so
I
didn
t
tell ya.
So
I
just wanted
to
check.
It-
I was overwhelmed with
the feeling of almost desertion
in
the building.
Do you know where
this antenna was located,
this dish?
It was,
uh,
up somewhere high and
to the far right,
I
thought.
I remember startin'
to wonder what the hell's it doing inside.
Okay,
inside
the building.
Inside
the building and
I
thought wait
a minute,
you're
analyzing, back
off..
And
I lost it.
And it was another
type of electronic antenna or something somewhere
and
I felt
uneasy
about analysis,
and when
I
told
I
just looked
at the
space,
you know, wander around
the
room.
Describe
the inside
of the room.
And
I backed off of
that,
I
never did
get back
to
it.
But the dish antenna was startin'
to be
very,
very
crisp and very sharp,
till
I backed off
of
it.
Okay.
Uh,
I felt absolutely no hostility
towards these people.
This bothered me
a little, because
I had
a very strong feeling
they could be.. they
could be our people,
they could be allies.
And this kinda disturbed me.
Uh,
I went
on,
I went
ahead
an
worked it anyway.
Really disturbed me and
I
thought that
feeling might have colored my response because
I
think primarily
my response throughout
was not that
any
of these people were
looking
to betray whomever put trust in
them, but being
human
they were vulnerable.
And
I had
the distinct feeling
that anyone in
a position like that
is vulnerable
and can be
exploited,
even though in some cases
the individual might not
know it themselves.
I
felt
the
30 year old
guy was
very
vul-
nerable because of his... kind of inferiority
feeling;.
He
would mouth alot just to..
:
We shoulda got most of
it.
Yeah,
I don't know what
I was saying anyway.
:
You were talking about the vulnerabilities of this one guy.
Oh yeah,
yeah.
No,
I didn't feel
that he would intentionally .
I
think he would forever that he had done anything wrong.
Though. ..later along he would feel that maybe he had opened
his mouth
too much,
but then he'd convince himself
it hadn
t
done any harm.
:
Okay,
well how'd you
feel about this session?
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I
guess
it was
a pretty
good session.
There's parts of
it that
I
. .something happened
I
don't remember, which
indicated
I was kinda deep.
I
know
I would stop
to realize
I wasn't reporting,
that
I was wandering around somewhere,
and then
I'd say,
oh yeah,
I
^otta do
this.
And
I would
report.
And when
I
do that it's normally
a pretty
good session.
#20.5:
Okay.
Very
good.
Well
I
have no other questions.
Thank you.
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SESSION DCC-87
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1.
(S/NOFORN)
Information provided
the viewer prior
to
the session is
documented as
a pre-session briefing and is included in
the transcript.
Attached is the building photograph shown
to
the
viewer.
2.
(S/NOFORN)
During the session,
the viewer was asked
to
go directly
to
was a8ked
to report on people
who worked
and
to determine
if any
of them could be recruited
by USI.
NOT
RE
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NATIONALS
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