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#11
Yea.
The only thing that you might
see.
. .ah.
. .above
ground would
be the ramp entrance.
I
had
a feeling,
for some reason you
couldn
1 t. ..this.
. .the exit... this
other ramp over here would.
. .would be disguised.
If
you were looking for .. .ah.
. .this particular thing
on
overhead photograph
or something,
you 'Id want
to look
over
here.
This
is where you'ld
be able
to find
it.
#27.5
You're pointing
at the entrance ramp that you labeled
on Page
3?
#11
Right,
and
I
have
a feeling the reason you'ld be able
to see
it cause you'ld be able
to get
the corner
of
this thing,
and that would trigger you
to
look over
here and you'ld be able to find some evidence.
And
I
don't know why
I
drew... well,
maybe this goes under...
further under
or whatever,
but
I notice now that
as
I
went down
I
saw to my left and to my right,
but when
I
was above ground looking
at where this ramp went down
on Figure
1,
there seemed
to
be
a foundation
or some-
thing square here,
OK.
And
I
felt there was some type
of .
. .of .
. .ah.
. .raod
or something inbetween these two
areas
on Page
1.
Ah... I
just had an overwhelming
feeling that there was
a machine shop down there.
There was
just no,
you
know,
if
I wasn't entirely off
base,
because it was so familiar being,
you know,
being
a machinist or machine repairman myself.
Of
course,
the columns are stuck all... all around there,
through there.
I was like
a big underground parking
garage with
a machine
shop.
#27.5
I
don't have any more questions
if .
. .ah.
. .you don't
have anything else you'ld like to add.
#66
Can you draw
a.
. .ah.
. .overhead of the outside area
where this sets
in
the countryside.
#11
I
can,
but not from having looked from above.
I
tryed
to get up... get
an aerial
view,
but that was...
#66
Do you
have an aerial perspective?
#11
Well,
I
can piece
it together from the ground,
from
what... what
I
have
seen.
#66
So
in
this case,
you're attempting
to put pieces
together,
but you didn't ever actually see from
overhead.
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#11
Correct,
correct.
Ah...
PAUSE
Ah... it seemed to me,
and
I
may have had
an overhead
at the same... in other words, different perspectives
at the same
time,
but there's something about this
corner,
there's.
. .there's.
. .1 'm not sure whether that
building covers the entire corner
or whether it's
fenced
off,
but there's other buildings up here.
Ah... this
is that
large maintenance building,
and
there seems to be some type of platform here,
but
it
kind
of blends down into the surrounding over
there
or whatever,
and you can only see one corner
of this
solid foundation
or whatever,
where this entrance
ramp goes
down,
and there are
other... I
perceived
there were other types
of buildings,
OK... ah...
built on top
of this
area.
This seemed to be
a
maintenance building,
there may have been
a small
building over
here,
and so
on.
Ah... and this was
some type
of... where vehicles
go up and down and
this
is wide enough
to bring
a vehicle
in.
#27.5
This
is Page
4,
right?
#11
Right.
Ah. ..over here are
the vehicle sheds that
I
described.
. .ah.
. .on
Page
1.
Ybu've got the fence...
the... the square things
on the end of the fence.
I
think this fence goes this way instead
of continuing
on straight,
I'm not sure.
Anyhow,
these... the
squares would be the guard.
. .guard tower.
To cont...
well,
I'll try
to make
it
a little clearer.
The
dotted line
is
the continuation
of this underground
thing and the ramp
out here,
but it's not. ..I'm
sure it's not visable from overhead.
#66
How do you
feel about your imagery and how you've
done here?
#11
Well,
it's either pretty good or it's
all analytical
B.S.
One
or the other.
Ah... I
just had very strong
feelings,
and especially when
I
got underneath and
the machine shop thing.
It got
to
a point where
I
could.
. .ah.
. .see grinding sparks coming
of a...
a
grinder .. .ahm.
. .could almost smell
the machine shop
type smell with
the oil and the cutting lubricants
and things like
that.
Had some very,
very
vivid
images
of
.
. .of
.
. .ah.
. .the front end of the... the
new Soviet
tank.
I'm not sure whether
it was
the
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or the 72 model.
For some reason
the.
. .the.
. .ah.
.
.
the
T72 model sticks
in my mind because
it. ..it seemed
to be solid wheels that
I... road wheels that
I was
looking at rather than spoked.
#66
Anything you want to add?
#11
Nothing.
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