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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION CC74
CC 7
&
1.
(S)
This report provides documentation
of
a remote viewing
session conducted
in compliance with
a request for information
on
a target
of interest.
2.
(S)
At the time of the session,
the remote viewer was
provided with the geographic coordinates
of the area
in question.
The remote viewer was able to attain his usual state
of relaxed
concentration but was disturbed periodically
by ambient room
noise.
He made no statements
as to his confidence
in his imagery.
3.
(S)
The protocol used for this session
is detailed
in the
document,
Grill Flame Protocol,
AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol
(S),
undated.
4.
(S)
Following
is
a transcript
of the
reviewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session.
At Tab
A are drawings made by
the viewer reference his impressions
of the target site.
At TAB
B
are analyst comments.
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REMOTE VIEWING
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SESSION CC74
TIME
#66
This will be
a remote viewing session
(edited for security).
PAUSE
Relax and concentrate now.
Relax and concentrate.
Focus
SG1A
describe the area to me.
PAUSE
+05
#7
I've got some altitude.
I
see
a very... a very dull
scene.
Barr^en mountains
and.
. .ah. .. (mumble)
valley off
to my
left with.
. .ah.
. .some kind of large complex,
I
think it's
a town.
I saw
a portion
of
a wall near me.
The scene
is mostly .
.
. ah .
.
. tan color
,
tan .
.
. ah .
.
. dirty
earth color.
I'm seeing.
. .ah.
. .air foil shape.
. .cross
section.
It's very strong,
but,
I
can't
see.
. .ah.
. .how
it fits the scene.
#66
Describe your perspective position
now.
#7
I
seem
to be
to the... I'm up
at about 4,000
or 5,000
feet.
I
felt... I
felt that
I was positioned at... to the
southeast looking northwest.
The sky
is brighter
to the...
what
I
thought to be
the northwest.
. .don
' t make much
sense
#66
Look straight down and describe what
you
see.
PAUSE
+10
#7
Confusing me... maybe symbolic.
#66
Don't analyze,
just describe what
you
see.
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Just
a big board.
. .ah.
. .board.
Slab shape,
it's... ah...
vertical,
with the sides.
. .ah.
. .kind
of curved.
As
I
tryed
to
look closer,
it... it took
on
a shape of... ah...
a scroll with spindles
on
each
end,
and
I was trying
to
get
it
clear.
Appears
a... some kind
of antenna.
It's
on
my side
of the slope.
I
see.
. .ah.
. .real bright over
there,
like
a
fire.
I
see
starts' silhouette against the
fire... the
fire.
I
don't know that it's fire,
it's
just
bright red.
. .ah.
. .and it's
dark,
it seems that it's
dark.
+15
A big truck off the
road.
PAUSE
There's two... two big guns over there,
under netting.
You
can
just barely see
em,
it's
dark.
It's... ah...
pointed right at
me.
I can't
see through the net... ah...
but it's just the shape
of
drape.
I'm
(mumble)...
I
think it's self propelled.
I
can vaguely make out tracks.
I'm seeling
a.
. .seeing.
. .ah.
. .a nondescript shapes,
+20
multiples.
. .scale problem.
It... it looks
like bullet
pock.
. .bullet.
. .bullet pock marks
on glass
or... ah... if
it's scale
is wrong
it could be... could be shell
craters,
but it's splatter
shape.
#66
Tell me about
the objects that the bullet.
. .bullets
seemed to be hitting.
#7
All
I
see
is... ah... it had
a smooth texture with
splatter.
Ah... looks
like
a rear window
of
a early...
ah.
. .mid-70's rear windshield.
It.
. .ah.
. .curves
on
the
ends.
Can't see the whole vehicle,
it's dark
in tone
I'm seeing.
. .ahm.
. .a hill
peak.
. .ah.
. .single hill seems
to be dominant,
and the top glows
like metallic
reflection.
I'm getting.
. .ah.
. .something underground
in
+25
the vacinity
of
this.
. .ah.
. .ref lection .
My face burns,
it stings.
#66
Describe the present activity
at the target area.
#7
Well,
I
don't even know where the target area
is.
I'm
just
up here looking around
in all directions.
#66
You're doing
fine.
Describe the activity you
see.
#7
I' we been trying to figure out that thing
on top
of the
hill.
It's aluminum there.
. .aluminum paint color.
#66
Alright.
That's fine.
I'm interested
in what's directly
below
you,
not over
on the hill.
What's directly below
you,
what activity
is going
on
there now?
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#7
It.
. .ah.
. .seems.
. .it seems remote from the other areas
I've seen
from up here.
I
only see one road into
it.
#66
And what about the activity right now?
PAUSE
What's your feeling about the level
of activity?
Seems
on the road there's
a truck oyer
there with the
engine
idling.
I
saw two guys
a while
ago,
but they
didn't seem to
be doing anything.
I
keep getting the
feeling that
I'm only seeing the facade
of
this.
Ah...
there's
a... some kind
of structure below... got big...
ah. ..panel.
This.
. .ah.
. .it's
in.
. .ah.
. .hill,
rough
country.
I
don't know
if
it's significant
or not,
but
my face
is sure stinging.
I
feel there's people inside
this structure,
there's bright lights
in there.
I
can
only see one side.
The terrain
is very rough,
there's
a big leveled area
in front
of this structure.
Up here
is lighter
in
tone,
it's either compacted
local materials
or maybe cement.
There's
an overhang
on the structure
and that's pretty well the color
of the surrounding
terrain.
I
see pipes associated with the building,
a lot
of
em are side by
side.
. .ah.
. .most
of then running
vertically.
(Mumble)... I
don't know why,
but
it seems
like
a light.
. .ah.
. .from the sky
is lighting up one side
of the cliffs.
#66
OK.
I
have no further questions
at this time about this
target.
If there's anything at all you 'Id like to add
before drawing,
do so now.
PAUSE
#7
Only that there's
a power
line coming into this place.
#66
OK.
Let's draw what you've had then.
#7
OK.
Ah... on Page
I,
I'm gonna start with the first
thing
I
saw,
and that was
a very dull,
maybe night time
scene
of rugged terrain,
don't remember seeing any
vegatation.
Rather hazzy,
quiet,
dull.
And,
then
just
vaguely
off to my
left... I
felt
I
was looking
to the
Northwest.
. .off
to my
left,
lower
in
the valley,
I
thought
I
saw
a spread
out complex
I
thought
to be
a
city.
Ah... I 'll
try and get some of these.
. .ah.
.
.
mountains and what have you
here.
And this area here
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felt was
a.
. .the.
. .the structures were
one,
maybe two
stories high maximum,
but they were
very,
very dim.
And,
I was looking over
the top
of .
. .ah.
. .some hills here
in the foreground,
and near me
on this slope was
a...
a
big board
like structure,
it had some thickness
to
it
that was curled out at
the... at the ends.
As
I
looked
at
it,
I
thought,
you
know.
.
. ahm.
.
. 1 guess my imagination
or
something made the thing curl
up
on the
end
like
a scroll.
It was rolled
on
each end and
a kind of
a curved.
. .ah.
.
.
ah... flat area inbetween
it.
Ah... later
on
I was aware
of
a long structure with the back... back end appeared.
. .it
just appeared to disappear.
It had
a overhang
on
it and
there was a... a big flat area out
in front
of
it and then
a... a road zigzaged off down the hill
to the right.
There was
a truck sitting
right here.
I
saw
a couple
of
guys right here,
one and two,
and
I
just had the distinct
feeling that
I
could see some windows
in this... this
structure here,
but
I had the feeling
it... it was bigger
inside than
it appeared to me.
I... ah... I
don't know why.
Somewhere
in the vacinity
of
No.
3 here,
I
thought,
I
saw
this
in more detail,
that somewhere
in the vacinity
of
No.
3.
. .ah.
. .where
the big truck was knocked
off
the road,
went off the
road,
I
could see
it
at
a rakish angle and
I
found it because
of
a... like
a flash that... like
a strobe
light went off that... but
it was sustained,
it... ah...
just
lit up the sky and
it
just dim off
in the distance,
and silhouetted against that was
a star,
a black
silhouette
of
a star against that bright.
First,
I
thought something was burning,
something blew up,
as
though something blew up,
but
I could sustain the flash.
Trying to figure out what
it was,
I
came
on
the scene
of
the truck and the ditch
it... ah... a point right here,
in
No.
3.
#10.5
You mentioned also.
. .ah.
. .right
in
this period
of
time,
you mentioned an
antenna.
#7
Well,
this thing right here
I
think,
cause
I
kept looking
at
it trying
to figure out what
it was from overhead,
ah... it took
on
a... a depth to
it
in this direction,
as
though
it coned back
in there.
. .ah.
. .from this central
point.
Ah... not
a deep cone like
a funnel,
but
it had...
ah... a definite cone type... type shape,
and... ah... I
look
at the terrain
and
I
looked at what
the heck could some-
thing like this be
in
this type
of terrain,
and... ah...
antenna came out
of
it.
Ah... I
felt
it was... oh,
those
pipes
right here at this end between this panel up here
and this... end of that structure,
they went up and
apparently curved and went into the building.
I
don't
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it.
#66
OK.
#7
But
I
felt that this thing right here at
No.
4... ah...
was probably an antenna.
. .ah.
. .of some type.
Ah... oh...
somewhere.
. .somewhere
I
saw two big guns.
. .ah. .
. I was
so close
it... before
I
saw them that
it
just scared the
heck out of me,
like
I was looking up overhead at these
big things.
I
didn't really see them.
. .draped material
over the top
of
it and
I
could see the shape,
and as
I
looked
in the dimness
I
thought
I could see the shape
of... of
a self propelled artillery,
giant,
big,
big stuff.
It... ah... I
felt very emotional
at that time,
it
just
scared
the heck out
of me cause
I.
. .ah.
. .felt,
you
know,
like
I was almost about
to be run over with the
thing.
I
felt threatened,
and
I'm really not sure exactly where
that was,
except there were hills behind
it.
He could
have been
in
one
of these slopes here,
somewhere,
I
don't
know.
On
top
of this... this hill
or
one shaped like that,
between me and this ridge of mountains here was something
on top
that.
. .ah.
. .1
don't
know,
it could have been
spherical with some stuff around
it,
very shiny,
metallic
aluminum color.
I
kept looking at it and
I got flashes
of
something underground.
. .ah.
. .tubular,
I couldn't make
anything out of
that,
I don't know what
it was.
The big
guns,
OK.
I don't know where the big guns were.
I...
I
thought... I thought North was in that direction,
in other
words,
here,
looking
to the Northeast,
I
thought...
I
don't know that's
a town,
I
just thought the shape
of
it
and the expanse
of
it,
it was probably
a
town.
#10.5
OK.
Alright,
would
you.
. .ah.
. .can you
do me
a
little...
ah... a single sketch
of the building
in the lower
right,
the structure
or whatever,
in the
lower right there with
the clear area
in
front of
it and the access road?
#7
Ah... I
felt there was
a distinct possibility that this
thing might be extending into the hill.
PAUSE
This
is very rough terrain going down the hill,
there
had to be
a lot of switchbacks going up and down
into the
valley that extended off towards the Southeast,
I guess
it was,
and this
is all very,
very craggy and rough...
ah... in here going up
the slope to some height.
But,
I
distinctly felt that the thing was bigger inside than
what
I was seeing and
it... the way
it was situated against
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of the mountain,
I
felt that part
of
it might
possibly have been underground.
I tryed to see this
side
of
it,
I
tryed to
get
a distinct.
. .ah.
. .four sided
shape
or whatever.
. .ah. .. I
could only get
this portion
here
I was seeing.
I thought about going
inside,
and at
that time,
I
think you asked something about activity
or
people or something,
and
I
started looking around,
and
I
never got back
to
it.
And
I have no damned idea what
it
is or where
it
is.
No feel whatsoever.
#10.5
That's
good.
You said
on,
OK,
moving
on
to the antenna,
the antenna
is
interesting
to me because you said... you
felt that there was something.
. .here
in your debriefing
you
just mentioned that you
felt there was something
spherical beneath
it.
. .ah.
. .the round,
no,
I'm sorry,
the spherical beneath
it was
the round thing ontop
of
the hill
on Sketch
that you had.
OK,
could you
do
me.
. .ah.
. .ah.
. .a closer perspective
of that
item,
and...
ahm .
.
.
#7
Should we number
that
item
Item 5?
#10.5
OK.
It's OK,
don't worry about the number.
#7
I
felt there was some kind of .. .ahm.
. .geometric
structure under this and
I
felt
it could be
inflated...
ah .
.
. perhaps inflated .
.
. ah .
.
. aluminumized cloth .
.
. ah .
.
.
could have been
a gas
tank
or something;
it was
illogical
to
me,
I never got around
to figuring out what
it was,
but there was
also.
. .ah.
. .geometric.
. .ah.
.
.
patterns out here,
I
can't remember the exact detail.
Ah... and
I
felt that underground there was
a... I
saw
a
very
large diameter,
I
thought,
cement cylinder,
and
I
saw
it
as
though
it was
a cut away
in Popular Science
or something.
Ahm... I
didn't get
it done very
far,
but
I
guess
I ought
to doubt this
thing.
I
got
a feeling
of
a... ah... a smaller... a smaller shaft going
down,
and
it was
so confusing
I
just,
hey,
you
know,
in
a remote
area like this
it didn't make sense.
I
thought,
I
didn't
know what was happening.
Ah.
. .then.
. .after
I
saw this
shaft
I
came back
on
the scene
of this
thing here
and
it
definitely appeared
then
as cement.
That's when
I
detected
it was cement,
rather than
just
a cylindrical
shape.
#10.5
OK.
Alright.
Why
don't
you number that
one.
. .ah.
. .3,
and write
Item
in
the
up.
. .somewhere on there,
anywhere,
so we
can cross.
Good.
#7
Was there anything else?
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Yep.
Quite
a bit,
as
a matter
of fact.
Ahm...
#7
I
thought we covered
it over here.
#10.5
Hah.
Well,
you.
. ,0k.
. .ah.
. .there' s one thing that
I
would like to... we're sort
of
a little bit ahead
of
ourselves here
on
that.
One thing
I 'Id
to return
to
here.
. .ah.
. .you made the comment that right after
you
mentioned the two big guns under... you couldn't
see the
shape,
they under netting and everything,
but that was
the feeling that you
had.
You
said... made the comment
of multiple nondescript shapes.
Looks like bullet pock
marks
on glass
or shell craters.
#7
Oh
yea,
I
forgot that... yea,
I forgot
that.
#10.5
And #66 had you
talk some about those... the objects...
the object that
you thought the bullets would hit.
Is
that
in
the vacinity,
there,
visible
on
1,
on Sketch
1,
your overview?
#7
Ah... I
don't know where that was.
I
felt
it was,
you
know,
beyond this hill,
I
thought.
I
thought
it was over
in here.
#10.5
Towards
the town
area.
#7
Yea,
over
in
this area somewhere.
#10.5
Alright.
Ah...
#7
But.
. .ah.
. .lower.
. .lower elevation than... than this...
than
the
item up
in
No.
4.
#10.5
OK.
Would you... ah...
#7
Yea.
First
I
couldn't make out what that was,
it was
just pock marks.
#10.5
OK.
And you were... you
had some concern regarding the
resolution.
. .ah.
. .not the resolution,
but the scale.
Ahm... to refresh your memory,
you said that smooth
texture with splatter,
looks likes rear window
of
an
earlier mid-7Q's automobile,
curved rear windshield,
curves
on
the
ends.
It's dark
in
tone,
but you can't
see the whole vehicle
or apparatus
or whatever.
#7
Yea.
I
could see... I
could see
a
little bit,
like this.
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could see the paint.
. .ah.
. .the metal part
I
felt looked
dark
in
tone
as opposed to
a cream and
ivory,
pale green,
pale blues or anything,
I
felt
it
vi/as dark
in
tone.
First
I couldn't
tell,
you
know,
whether these things were
hundred feet across
or
a millimeter across.
#10.5
Did you have the feeling that... just to clarify
me,
would
you.
. .clarify my
idea here,
would you
run through your
impressions of this
for me?
#7
Of this?
#10.5
Yea.
#7
It came
on
the scene with probably
just one
of these,
and
as
I
remember,
it happened right after
I
saw the big
guns,
and
I
thought,
well,
gee,
is this practice,
am
I
seeing
the down
range,
and then
I
saw another one
and
another
one,
and
I
thought,
my
God,
is this
a battle field,
and
I was trying to find something
I could tie it
to to
find out,
you
know,
how big
it
is,
what
is
it,
is
it
a
battle field.
. .ah.
. .and
I
guess you said something
to
me,
asked to me
to... a question
or
something,
and
I
started
looking closer,
and then
I
saw this curve right here
on
the.
. .ah.
. .what
I
take to be the right side.
Ah... then
I
saw
a translucency that came
on and
I could see that the
highly reflective part of these pock marks looked like
glass rather than ejecta from light
tone soil underneath.
Ah... then parts
of the vehicle.
. .ah.
. .shape came
on and
I
was able to recognize
it.
I...
#10.5
What type
of
a vehicle
did
it... did
it.. did the gestalt...
#7
I
had.
. .ah.
. .the feeling of
an official
car.
Ah...
diplomatic came
on
and
I
shook and said no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
wait
a minute,
hold.
And
I
back
off and the thing
came
on again and it came up to almost definitely
official.
. .ah.
. .as compared
to the man
on the street.
Ah.. .the dark tone,
if
I was forced. to pick color,
I...
ah. ..I. ..I felt
it was black,
definitely.
But,
because
of
the
gray,
night time theme,
it wasn't as contrast
against the background
as... as you might expect.
Ah...
but
I
felt... I
felt
it was official type vehicle.
Ah. ..I
thought
I would feel some emotion.
. .ah.
. .about
it,
cause
I
felt some emotion
in other parts
of the thing,
I
don't
remember where now,
but,
I
didn't feel any sadness or
anything about
this.
It was more like a... a technical,
analytical thing.
I
saw
it,
I
didn't know what
it was,
and as
I worked with
it,
I
saw what
it was,
and
I
felt
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content
to leave
it alone,
and.
. .ah.
. .it never occurred
to me to see
if anyone was injured.
It
just absolutely
did not occur
to me... ah... it could be the vehicle was
sitting there abandoned and hadn
' t.
. .this
is occurred
some time before,
I
don't
know.
#10.5
You... do you have... you mentioned that you saw this,
here
in your debrief
just recently,
you mentioned that
you saw this
at about the same time you
saw the two...
#7
I
saw
it
just after...
#10.5
Just after.
.
#7
and
I
thought it was associated.
#10.5
OK.
#7
That's why
I
thought
it might be down
range,
big impact
area
or something.
#10.5
OK.
Ahm...on the overview would you... do you... do you
feel.
. .ah.
. .sure enough to... to try
to locate this area
on
the overview sketch within
a general location?
#7
I... I
had the feeling
I was down below
the peaks,
down
in
the valley somewhere,
and
I'm guessing somewhere
in the
vicinity... I want to make
a dotted circle here... ah...
that's
No.
6.
Somewhere,
I would say
to the East
of what
I
thought was the village.
#10.5
OK.
On... on Sketch
No.
A there why don't you write
in
Item
6 so we have something,
tie the two
of them together.
Good.
#7
OK.
#10.5
Alright,
from there,
as
I
recall,
or from my notes here,
from there we moved
on
to the... the
item
in Sketch
which we've already
done.
OK.
Ahm...let me take
a
look
at your Sketch
2 there.
. .Sketch
2.
OK,
I'll have to ask
you
a couple more questions.
#7
OK.
#10.5
OK.
From that,
you went
on,
single hill,
tops
glows like
metalic reflection,
OK,
that's
5,
Item
5.
OK,
something
underground with
a reflection aluminum or aluminum paint
color,
only one road visable going into the hill,
truck
on
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#7
OK.
That's down
in
the vacinity
of
Item
1,
2 and
4.
#10.5
OK.
That's,
OK,
that's down
there,
alright.
Ah... feeling
that he's only seeing
the facade,
something below the big
panel;
we're moving into that?
#7
Ah hah.
It's the big thing....
#10.5
OK.
I
see then.
You've returned to where your start
point.
. .alright,
good.
Ah... hilly,
rough countries.
. .OK,
people inside,
bright lights,
can only see one side,
that
is this,
right,
OK.
The leveled area
in front of the
structure.
. .ah.
. .either local material
or cement,
over-
hanging structure,
and pipes
-
a
lot,
side by side,
most
of them vertical.
OK,
alright,
I
see now,
it's on
Sketch
then.
And finally .. .ahm.
. .towards the end of
the session,
light from the sky
is lighting up one side
of
the cliffs,
that's
OK,
that's where.
. .that's.
. .we're still
dealing with
this,
am
I
correct here?
#7
Yea,
it was lighting
up this slope here.
#10.5
#66 asked you
if there was anything
to add,
and your...
your
last addition before the session was terminated by...
ah... an
incursion was that.
. .ah.
. .you added
a power
line
coming
into the place.
#7
Oh
yea,
yea.
Yea,
that a... I felt that went over this hill
here... yea.
#10.5
OK.
#7
It's not the scale there,
but
it went
over that hill.
I
don't know where
it went
off to from there,
but
I
saw
it
going up over the hill.
#10.5
OK.
#7
OK.
Anything else?
#10.5
That's all
I
have.
#66
Good session.
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