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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 807
1.
(S/NOFORN)
This report documents
a remote viewing session conducted
in
compliance with a request
for information.
(S/NOFORN)
The remote viewer's impressions
of the target are provided as
L intelligence data,
and as such,
have not been subjected to any
intermediate
analysis,
evaluation
or collation.
Interpretation and use
of the information
provided
is the responsibility of the requestor.
3.
(S/N0F0RN)
The protocol used for this session
is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol,
AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol
(S),
undated.
4.
(S/N0F0RN)
Following
is
the remote viewing session,
the remote viewer.
At TAB A
a transcript of the viewer's impressions -during
At TAB
B
is target cuing information provided
are drawings made
in support of this session.
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TRANSCRIPT
REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 807
TIME
#6.5:
#01 :
#6.5:
#01 :
#6.5:
This will be
a remote viewing session for
27 August 1981
with a start time 1330 hours.
Are you on line?
Check.
This will be a pre-session brief.
All right #01 you have
worked this particular problem five times,
and
I want you
to know that ahead of time.
No biggie.
What we are going
to be doing
is going to be trying to help
a team from S0UTHC0M,
who are going
in on the ground, who are already on the ground
searching for this UH-IH helicopter that crashed back on the
17th of February,
0700 hours,
local time.
The tail number
is 7321711.
We will refer to that by the call sign 711.
You want to look
at the UH again?
Yes.
Our job then
is to help this search team locate this helicopter.
That's our mission today,
and
I'm going to have
a series
or
questions......
I've got some coordinates that we're going
to work
off
of,
and everything else.
But,
when we first
start
the session
I want you to focus solely on where the plane
crashed.
That'll be your
job.
That'll be my first direction
to you... .is to go to location to where
okay,
and from
there we'll take off.
Are there any questions?
#01 :
#6.5:
#6.5:
+03
#01:
Nope
Are you ready for this
one?
This
is going to be the humdinger.
You have
26 minutes to relax.
I will put this on pause and
later we will get back in business.
PAUSE
Okay #01,
we are going to start the session now.
I want you to
relax:
I want you to concentrate,
focus
on the helicopter
call signs 711.
Focus on the location where that plane crashed
on
17 February
1981.
Focus yourself,
your attention on that
helicopter right now.
Relax and concentrate
on
it.
Let me
know when you have arrived at that crash site.
PAUSE
Okay.
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#6.5:
Okay.
First thing we want to do #01,
we want to determine
the altitude
at which this helicopter crashed.
Determine the
altitude where this helicopter crashed in landing.
What
is
the helicopter altitude
of that location?
#01;
Okay.
Oust
a minute.
#6.5:
Okay.
Take your time.
#01:
I get about 1100 feet,
thousand to
1100 feet.
#6.5:
Okay.
I understand the plane crashed at an altitude of
about
1100 feet.
#01:
Correct.
#6.5:
Okay.
Where?
#01:
It's above sea level.
#6.5:
Aha.
I understand.
I want you to describe the area,
very
briefly,
the area that you see the helicopter
in right now.
#01;;
Very thick jungle.
It's like multiple canopy jungle.
It's
very tall trees,
thick,
space,
and then like large bushes.,
large brush.. .very high, maybe 12
feet.
Also very thick.
It's about a
6 degree grade.
The, where
it ; is
! land
(phonetic)
it's upside down and on its left side.
It's damaged severely
as
it came through the trees.
About two-thirds
up the side
of this hill... .mountain in the background. .. .and
a river....
mountaintop looks like
a half
a flat
ledge going around the
front.
that's all
I'm getting.
#6.5:
Okay.
I want to try something new #01 to aid the search team
today.
I'm going to give you some coordinates.
What
I want
you to
do
is to focus
on the crash site.
Keep that
in mind,
be aware
of where that
is and store
it
in one corner of your
of your mind.
Then
I will give you this coordinate,
and
I
want to know
if there is
a relationship to the crash site
to the coordinate that
I give you.
Okay?
#01 r
Aha.
(affirmative)
#6.5:
Okay.
The first set
of coordinates
I
give you:
04 degrees,
28 minutes,
30 seconds South
79 degrees,
25 minutes,
40 seconds West
Focus on that coordinate keeping in mind where the helicopter
crashed,
and tell me if there is
a relationship between the
two.
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#01;
I'm not getting
any direct
is to the northeast crash
relationship,
site..
. ..
That apparently
#6.5:
Can you tell how far?
#01:
Four clicks,
five clocks.
That's kilometers.
#6.5:
Okay.
Again,
concentrating on the crash
you another coordinate:
site let me read
04 degrees,
27 minutes,
30 seconds South
79 degrees,
26 minutes,
25 seconds West
Concentrate on that coordinate
in relationship to the
crash site.
#01:
I'm not getting anything
at
all with that coordinate.
Nothing
at all
is happening with that.
#6.5:
Okay
.........Let me give you
a third coordinate.
Again,
concentrating on the relationship between the coordinate
I give you and the crash site:
04 degrees,
27 minutes,
30 seconds South
79 degrees,
24 minutes,
50 seconds West
Concentrate on the relationship between that coordinate and
the crash site.
#01:
It's further south.
Sort of east,
southeast crash site....
All
I
saw... about six kilometers.
#6.5:
Okay.
Let me give you the final coordinate:
04 degrees,
26 minutes,
05 seconds South
79 degrees,
27 minutes,
30 seconds West
Relationship now,
concentrate
on the relationship between
that coordinate and the crash site.
PAUSE
#01;
It's like
up, uphill ....feel like
I
just switched west ..
crash site
and up the side of
a mountain.... perhaps the
center
of the mountain
or just past center of the mountain.
It's about four kilometers.
No.
It's further than that.
Seven kilometers.
It's hard to tell because it's
up.
#6.5:
Okay.
I understand.
Okay,
from any of those four coordinates,
#01,
concentrating all your awareness on
it,
from which one
would
it be easiest to find the helicopter?
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#01:
In the... in the mountain coordinate.
The last
one.
#6.5:
In the
last one?
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Yes.
What makes you say that?
PAUSE
The approach has got fewer rivers.
It's higher ground
It's easier downhill than up....
The main reason
.....
there's fewer river crossings.
Very difficult otherwise.
First coordinate's closer but there's two river crossings.
See two rivers.
You're saying
in relationship to the first coordinate there
are two rivers between that coordinate and the crash site?
That
is correct.
The other two,
I'm just kind of indifferent.
In
at
least one
of your sessions #01 you talked about
people
in the area.
The natives?
That
is correct.
Can you tell me
here; they came
from?
Closer to the first coordinate.
They're like west,
southwest
to the first coordinate.
Two kilometers,
perhaps.
On the
edge
of the first
river.
Tell me the name of the village from where they
came.
Starts with
a "P".
P-r-e-d something,
Prelad.
. .Pred. .prel.
.
Prelagos
,
Prelos,
something
like that.
Okay.
I want you to go to that village,
at this time #01,
and
tell
me about the village.
It's. ...it's
on
a cleared river bank. ...it's up on
a rise...
just
a little agriculture.
They're predominant natives of
the area.
They're wearing very little loin cloths.
Appear
to pack their hair
in mud or something.
Trim it very bowl
shape.
They're dark,
not too dark.
They have more of
a
-
reddish hue to their skin.
Very black hair.
Huts are
adobe
type mud huts sticks packed with mud.
Mostly hunters.
Very
old village.
How big
is this village?
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#6.5:
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Not very large.
Perhaps
...100 people counting women
and kids.
Chief mode
of transportation
is canoe.
How many buildings are
in this village?
Thirty maximum.
Twenty-eight,
thirty.
They're sort
of round
(mumble)
mud walls.
Everything has
a reddish
cast to it like it's
a reddish clay,
mud that they
use.
Sort
of
an oak red yellow
(phonetic). *«•
Now,
from this village to the crash site,
how would
a search
party go?
They would,
standing
in front of the river,
with their back
to the village
drawing
a perpendicular line to the
face
of the village
and calling that line zero,
it would be
about
to 40 degrees right
of the
zero,
perpendicular line.
Cross the
river,
sort
of
a flat area,
another river. .. ...over
to the side
of
.sort
of a hill
right
side
of a hill.
Through
a valley and then slight grade up the side of another
hill.
When these natives visited the crash site,
did they travel
the whole way
on foot?
No.
There's. ... .rather than cross the river,
they took the
river
.and it's sort of frog legs... it goes right then
left,
then right,
then left,
and arrives at
a point east
of
the crash site.
Okay.
I want you to be able to concentrate and recall that
later on when we
do the drawings.
At this time
I would like
to try something new.
Slightly different.
I want to use.
some words and some names and see
if we can tell if there
s
any significance between them and the mission that we are
on.
Okay?
The first one
is Solonda.
Let me spell that,
S-o-l-o-n-d-a.
Now,
does that mean anything or have any significance to what
we are doing?
No.
Okay.
Amaluza ,
A-m—a-l-u-z-a.
What
is the significance
of
Amaluza?
That's the name
of one of the rivers.
Seems like. ..get
a
picture
of one of the rivers.
Is
it one of the rivers that leads to the crash site?
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#6.5:
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mit
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One
of the rivers that has to be crossed.
I
don't think it's
one that goes to the crash site.
I think it's the second
one that's crossed.
Okay.
It has to be crossed coming from the village?
Yes.
That's correct.
Okay.
It's the second one that you cross?
That's correct.
May be
a tributary
off the first river.
Okay.
Very good.
What
is the significance and relationship
to what we're doing to the word tuna?
That's not significant other than that's
a nickname of
some
kind.
Do you know what
it's a nickname of?
No.
I
just know it's
a nickname.
Okay.
And,
finally we have talked before
on one
of the areas
and referred to
as Piedra Blanca.
Do you recall that?
My question is... the question that the search team has,
Is
there more than one Piedra Blanca?
It's two peaks.
There's like the Papa and the son.....
helicopterjis east,
southeast
of the Papa...the son faces
it but
it's further away.
The one that you're saying
is Papa,
that's the taller
one?
#01*
That
is correct.
#6.5:
Is Papa the
one that has the flat top?
#01*
That
is correct.
It's got the ledge around
it.
#6.5:
Flat edge on top,
okay.
And,
how far is Papa from the crash
site?
# 01 *
It's right next to
it
3 kilometers,
#6.5:
Okay.
Now,
the final question
I have #36.
I want you to
concentrate
on the ground search team,
the ground search
team that is headed up by
a Lieutenant Colonel Rinaldi,
R_i_n-a-l-d-i.
I want to know how many men are
in this
search team,
the ground search team.
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Okay.....
It's six counting him.
I think it was
planned for more
,
but
I think it
' s what they wound
up with
on the ground
six.
Okay.
Concentrating on that search team now,
describe
..
their location right now,
1400 hours,
our time and whatever
time
it may be where they are.
PAUSE
They're moving along side
a river.
parallel to it.
What
is their mode
of transportation?
PAUSE
I
have them moving
by boat of some kind. . .sitting down...
moving along the edge
of the river...
Okay.
I'm a little confused #36.
You said that they
were moving along side the river parallel to it,
but now
you're saying they're
in the river?
Yes.
Yes.
Aha
#6.5:
Take your time.
#01 :
No.
They're not
in the river.
Their mode
of transportation
requires sitting.
They're
on the ground though.
Maybe
they're not moving
at all and that's why they're sitting.
Their direction of travel
is parallel to the river.
#6.5:
I have no further questions at this time.
Is there anything
that you'd like to add?
PAUSE
#01i
No.
That's
all.
#6.5:
Well,
let me ask you this.
I'll slip
it
in.
How far are
they from the crash site now?
$01 j
Four kilometers.
They're much further down in altitude
than the crash site,
though.
#6.5:
Okay.
What can we tell them to get them headed properly
from where they are?
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We should follow the edge
of the river until the flat top
mountain
is.... .80 degrees
off their right,
off their right
front.... also should turn to the mountain.
That's the
most direct way.
#6.5:
Okay.
When they ..do that,
when they turn to the mountain,
where will that village be
in relationship to where they
are and where the target
is?
#01;
They're further than the village now.
It's
to their left
up the river.
#6.5:
Okay.
I want you to recall
all of that and we'll put that
into a drawing.
I have no other questions at this time.
Is
there anything that you'd like to add?
#01:
No.
#6.5:
Okay.
Very good.
I want you to bring your awareness back
to this present time here
in the
room,
and unwind.
Move
your toes,
and we'll relax for
a few minutes and then do some
drawings.
PAUSE
#6.5:
Okay.
You've got your drawings ready?
#01:
Yep.
#6.5:
Okay.
And,
this number one,
now
#01:
Number one,
the layout
is close to scale in kilometers as
I
could get
it,
and
it shows the
Indian village referenced
in
the session as
"A".
"B"
is the area that the team is in
right now,
and their direction of movement.
"C"
is the crash
site which is indicated with a multis-cross.
"D"
is that
Blanco mountain;
this
is the Papa, and the son is indicated
with an arrow and the word "son."
You
know,
the smaller
one,
"E" is the river
I was talking about,
and it branches everywhere.
Christ,
it goes everywhere.
#6.5:
So, we're showing the main flow.
#01:
Yes.
The main flow.
"F"
is the main flow,
incidentally.
I put an arrow right under the "E"
to indicate the main flow.
I sensed an abandoned village where
I put "F",
which may
or
may not be important.
#6.5:
On the main
flow,
are you saying that the current runs this
way?
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#01:
Yes.
#6.5:
Let's
just stay on...
Let me ask you another question.
When
I
read
off some coordinates to you,
and the first
coordinate
#01:
Okay
Just
a second,
and
I'll tell you where
I sensed
the first coordinate to be.
I sensed. ... .we' 11 make some
X's here... we 'll call that
the
first coordinate.
Second
coordinate
is off my map;
third coordinate
I sensed to be
south of there
like here.
That's the third coordinate.
And,
the fourth coordinate,
I sensed to be way over here.
Actually,
it's off the map,
but....,.*.,............
It's
just
a hair off map.
Somewhere between the top
of this
mountain and
off this map is where it's
at.
#6.5:
So,
in other words,
if,
on the fourth coordinate,
if you came
right
over the top of Papa and went
down the hill
#01:
down the valley and up the hill,
you'd hit
it.
That's
that
flat area on the side of the hill.
#01:
Page two.
It's
just
an example of the way the jungle is
laid
out... first canopy, second canopy and then the very
high 12
foot undergrowth,
and the way the bird's laying up
underneath there.
Number three is the layout of the way the huts look and the
village,
like the edge of the village up on high ground away
from the bank of the river ....... .all ,
it's kind of like
inset
in the jungle,
and they have like these canopy raised
areas
in there,
and all the huts are round and like connected
together.
They’re mud,
you know.
They put them up like
with sticks and then hack mud against them... like a reddish,
yellow mud.
And then page
four
is
just the drawing of what the natives
look like and
I wrote
a whole bunch of stuff on there.
That's
it,
really.
#6.5:
Okay.
I was just looking
at your first map here,
again,
on the
area and saying,
in response to the question,
if you follow down
into
a flat top mountain with 80 degree off your
front,
yob 're
talking about someplace
in
here'
#01:
Somewhere
in there.
I'll draw
a dotted circle.
Inside the
dotted circle,
you would be,
and if this line was zero degrees
.....then this would be 80 degrees.
#6.5:
Is that point here that
I'm pointing to,
is that another
river going
in between these two mountains?
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#01:
Yes.
It's like
a tributary .
But,
I'm not sure
if it's
exactly where you would make that right
or not.
#6.5:
Sure,
but
it would
be nearby there.
#01:
But,
it's nearby there,
yes.
It drops to, through lower
hills.
Actually,
the whole flow of this land is going
downhill the direction
of this large arrow that
I'm going
to put on this paper.
.sort
of southeast. ..the whole flow
of the land is sort
of downhill southeast.
#6.5:
Okay.
V/ery good.
Is there anything
else you want to add?
#01:
No.
That's all.
#6.5:
End
of session then.
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TARGET CUING
INFORMATION.
REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 807
1.
(S/NOFORN)
Just prior to the start
of the session,
the remote viewer was.
shown the attached photograph of
a UH-1H helicopter with identifying
data on
it.
2.
(S/NOFORN)
During the session,
the interviewer asked the remote viewer to
respond to the following specific questions
(NOTE:
These questions had been
provided to the project manager by SFC Wheeler
of S0UTHC0M):
a.
At what altitude did the helicopter crash into the ground?
b.
First coordinate:
04 degrees,
28 minutes,
30 seconds South
79 degrees,
25 minutes,
40 seconds West
What
is the relationship
of this coordinate to the crash site?
c.
Second coordinate:
04 degrees,
27 minutes,
30 seconds South
79 degrees,
26 minutes,
25 seconds West
What
is the relationship
of this coordinate to the crash site?
d.
Third coordinate:
04 degrees,
27 minutes,
30 seconds South
79 degrees,
24 minutes,
50 seconds West
What is the relationship of this coordinate to the crash site?
e.
Fourth coordinate:
04 degrees,
26 minutes 05 seconds South
79 degrees,
27 minutes,
30 seconds West
What
is relationship
of this coordinate to the crash site?
f.
What
is the name
of the village that the natives came
from,
and how
many people live there?
g.
Does
"Solonda" mean anything?
h.
What
is significance
of "Amaluza?"
i.
What
is significance
of "Tuna?"
j.
Is there more than one "Piedra Blanca?"
3.
(S/N0F0RN)
This
is the 6th session conducted against this target by this
viewer
.
NOT RELEASABLE
TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
kiri
0RC0N
Approved For Release 2003/09/10
: CIA-RDP96-00788R000600190001-6