Approved For Release 2000/08 LUOr #31: #66: #31: #66; #31: #66: #31: #663 #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66 : 6-00788R000300340001-2 But they're not. Then there's a... That's something I found out later on. -Then there's a cross. Is this where the... Cylinders were. Okay. Now, at one time didn't you say like radio tubes or something, did I hear you say? Yeah, radio tube shaped. Cylinders. These are the shapes of these cylinders? Yes. Okay. That should go like that. There we go. PAUSE Okay, that's like . . you know, the line continues but - it gets covered up... so you can't... Are they open shelves? Yeah, they're open shelves feeling, you could access them. . PAUSE Okay. That type of a feeling. Of racks. Of... I could not figure out... for the life of me. . it was as though this thing was sitting there and there was another one sitting there. I'11 just draw one like in each corner. Like that. Okay. And that sticking Is this something on the shelf now or 7? Yeah. Container on the shelf. Container on the shelf. Gh I see, like a little box or something okay. PAUSE Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : Cia. RDP96- 00788R000300340001-2
Approved For Release 2000/08/¢ rs #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96,002 a00788R000300340001-2 That's not right. That's wrong imagery. I'm getting too overlaps here. That's what was on the back of the truck. That's what was on the back of the truck. I don't know if there were boxes there, so I'm going to have to scratch that out. Okay. All right. What I did have was, somehow laying in . . laying in order in these things, cause this is where I got the yellow stripe around the back of it. On the cylinders there's some sort of yellow stripes? Yeah. They're laying in there okay. Um hm. PAUSE Like that and there's a yellow stripe right there. Okay. PAUSE Okay, the black is the yellow. These things lay somehow in, you know, they're resting or they're configured somehow and there's some on each side, okay. PAUSE The size of these things, I could not figure out. If they were small or if they were big. I said at first they looked like radio tubes. They. looked like - they could be of any size between a rounded titted radio tube to a large propane - a sedaline type cylinder size. I - « « They were all alike and I had various ideas like Oh my goodness, is this a bomb; is this a propane cylinder; is this a sedaline cylinder; is this a radio tube; I couldn't figure out what the size of it was, you know. What the magnitude of it was, you know, but they are all the general shape of that. What I understand you to say is... I see. There were so many of them, all of them. . There wasn't anything to compare the size of them too. Yeah. That's right. Essentially I was. having trouble but later on, I had a feeling, but how valid it is, I don't know. Anyway, here are you know more of these things. They go off. Big bay. Big storage bay. Okay. Just stretches on, way on, way down into the back. Okay, and I had the feeling that my guy came around this way, 88R000300340001-2 13
Approved For Release 2000/08/0@}4.0u5% #66; #313 #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: #31: #66: Approved For Reléase 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP’ P96-00788R000300340001-2 but that somewhere down in the bay, when you told me to go catch up with him, again, because I had lost him and I was fascinated with these cylinders, you told me to go catch up with him, I had the feeling that he had come across ~ somehow he had gone into the thing, into the maze and he was like maybe in the second or third row down there. He had gone like this. Okay. All right. 11... is this feeling of (not audible). PAUSE Just trying to give some sort of a. . a... some sort of a. . substance to this vehicle, whatever it is. Somehow there's a wheel here and somehow there's a wheel back here. How they're connected I have no idea. But, PAUSE I've got the proportions wrong here. I'm looking at it ~ it looks like its bent. Anyway, then I had the feeling that there was some sort of a small crate had been put on the back of this thing and it contained either twelve or sixteen of these things because I had the definite feeling four in a row. I couldn't tell if there were three rows of four or four rows of four of these cylinders. And they... This is where you were confused before where you thought the boxes were on the back of the truck or on the racks on sides?? Right. But this is where I had a box of these things. I don't know if the guy loaded them in the box or if they were already in a box. That's what Iwas... . Okay. Earlier, I had the feeling that these things just sort of sat in rows in racks, okay. Three by four rows or four by four rows. Was it about this time when I asked you to focus on him? You had lost your concentration here. A small coffee, thermos. . . « e PAUSE Okay, you have a feeling for the size at this point, you 8R000300340001-2 14
Approved For Release 2000/0@) 88R000300340001-2 #31: Yeah. Okay. There's that. And I had the feeling that our dude here was... + + + looking like away. No, he was looking, it doesn't really matter - he was looking this way and he was like . . . you know, writing on a clip board. PAUSE Okay. PAUSE He was looking . . the view of from the right of ten to the left of 11. He's looking this way, back in the direction of where he first came down and then cut in he was looking this way. Standing at a rack looking at this side of a rack. Okay. And here in the background, again, is the rack thing. Because he's in the aisle between the racks. #663 Okay. #313 Okay. Then the only thing else that I have is a puttering feeling. You told me to find out what the heck was going on by talking to the guy. #66: Yeah. . You had broke your concentration about this time and had wandered. I wanted-you to reaccess the target and I wanted you to focus on him and see what he had to say about the target. Perhaps that would be a way of Finding more information. #31: Yep. One thing that I did have sort of inbetween there - and I don't know if it was just my logical progression, obviously a guy putts putts along, he picks up box from, he must take it somewhere, right? And I had the idea that he... . put it..... PAUSE He put it on some sort of a... some sort of a... conveyor, okay and he pulled up in front of this thing and he loaded this box. ... . okay. Loaded box on conveyor and it went this way off and I had the feeling that that was in-the far right hand side of the room in the back. Like he picked it up here and he went way over in the far corner. PAUSE #663 Um hm. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000300340001 -2
Approved For Release 2000/08/67 GRE #31: #66: #31: #66: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 ..Givx And that's Number of Sketch. on some sort of a conveyor, sort some sort of an overhang here as they did not load big heavy stuff on it. Anyway. 6-00788R000300340001-2 So he put it of overhung . . . though... . as though I mean tall stuff on it, so therefore there was some sort of an overhang and a cut out over this thing. it laid in a notch in the wall. Its like In other words, like the only thing that they ever put on here were things of that size, you know, cause if they put automobiles on it, it couldn't have an overhang like that. That type of a thing. All right, then the only other thing I got was. see what was it I said. Testing) PAUSE Batch. Lot testing came into my I wasn't able to tune in like I have sometimes. Make sure they weren't testing. Random selection, deteriorating. PAUSE Let's I didn't... Lot mind. And I had the idea that the box of the stuff was going to a place that did the testing. Okay. When they put it on the conveyor belt it was not going to be trashed. It was going to be examined. That's why he rode down there was to get a bunch of these and send them to the right place. Like he had to go select it. Like he had selected a batch that he had to. . Okay. What sort of status did this guy have that ran the place? Was he a testor himself? No. PAUSE I didn't get an presence or prestige or super knowledge- able vibrations from the guy - [ got more routine, mundane type vibrations like, well ho hum, this is a rather boring thing, but we'll take care of it now that way we won't have to worry about it this afternoon. I didn't get any high skill level or really exotic concerns or anything like that, Sort of a laborer type side or support type side, you know. PAUSE Okay, well do you have any other comments? P96 -00788R000300340001-2