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:
It’s mounted
on
the
wall.
Okay.
Describe
what
you
mean
by
the
cable,
the
conduit
goes
to
this
box.
# 01
:
Just
to
the
box
that's
mounted
on
the
wall.
It
goes
to
the
box
mounted
on
the
wall.
Okay.
Go
inside
the
conduit
and
describe
what’ s
inside
the
conduit
# 01
:
# 66
:
Ah
two
sets
of
two
pair
of wires.
Go
down
the
wires
towards
the
box
mounted
and
describe
I
get
ah.... see
a
roll
of
wire
or
it's
all
coiled
up
in
a
corner
and
there's
ah.. little
green
board
with
a
only
ah,
what
I
see,
at
some
(mumble).
Okay.
On
the
wires
leading
to
the
box,
do
a
continuity
check.
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#01:
It’s
ah... it
continual
current.
There’s
always
continual
current
here,
just
slips
through
.
#66:
Do
a
continuity
check
on
all
the
combinations
of
the
wires
leading.
#01:
Not
always
continual,
there’s
interruptions
.
#66:
Okay.
Let's
change
of
the
box
and
face
it
.
#01:
Okay.
#66:
Okay,
now
grab
on
to
the
piece
of
cardboard
and
follow
it
til,
'til
it
originated
there.
Tell
me
how,
when
and
who
put
it
there.
#01:
The
guy
that
sits
at
the
desk
for
the
day.
Ah... it's
been
done
many
times,
something
to
do
with
false
light
or
something.
(mumble)
I
get
a
picture
of
a
metal
box
with
a
light
blinking,
they' re
putting
the
cardboard
there
stops
the
light
from
blinking.
your
perspective
now.
Get
out
the
door
with
the
cardboard
in
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#66:
Okay.
I
don't
understand
what
you
mean
by
the
guy
at
the
desk.
#01:
Same
guy
earlier
that
typed
the
paper,
sitting
at
a
"L"
shaped
in
a
room,
outside
the
room
of
interest.
#66:
All
right,
I
understand.
If
I
have
understood
you
correctly,
the
guy
who
sits
at
the
"L"
shaped
desk,
typed
on
the
forms,
he
puts
this
piece
of
cardboard
in
there
to
stop
a
flashing
light?
#01:
Urn,
urn.
#66:
And
it's
the
usual
thing,
that's
the
way
he
gets
rid
of
the
light?
#01:
Yes,
that's
correct.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
He
and
others,
he's
not
the
only
one,
there’s
other
people
.
#66:
Okay,
let's
go
back
to
the
door
and
the
door
with
the
conduit
and
the
little
box
above
the
door.
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Facing
the
box
direct
on,
ask
yourself,
ask
of
yourself
of
your
greater
knowledge,
is
there
anything
amiss
about
the
box?
#01:
Ah .. sometimes
it
doesn't
and
sometimes
it
does.
I
only
see
ah
some
kind
of
a
ah... I
don't
know,
it
has
to
do
with
black
thing,
a
black
attachment,
goes
on
the
other
side
of
the
door
on
the
wall.
I
can't
tell
if
it's
there
all
the
time
or
if
it
is
there
when
it'
s
not
working
or
if
it's
there
when
it's
working.
#66:
If
I
understand
then,
when
you
ask
yourself
the
question,
is
there
anything
amiss
about
the
box,
you
don't
see
anything
particularly
wrong
with
the
box,
but
you
find
that
it
doesn' t
work
from
time
to
time
and
that
maybe
associated
with
something
on
the
other
side
of
the
door.
#01:
That's
correct.
I
see
a
square
of
black.
#66:
Okay.
I
have
no
further
questions
about
the
area,
but
I
would
like
you
to
take
a
few
minutes
now
to
explore
beyond
the
confines
of
my
questions
and
to
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review
in
your
mind,
your
perceptions
where
I
will
now
ask
you
to
draw
a
simple
floor
diagram
where
these
doors
are.
I
will
wait
while
you
do
this.
#01:
»
Okay.
#66:
Okay,
if
you'll
wait
just
a
minute,
I
want
to
get
some
directions
from
the
control
room
here.
Just
speak
up
and
say
again.
Okay.
First
of
all,
do
you
have
anything
else
to
report
on
your
own exploration?
#01:
No,
I'm
just
having
a
little
difficulty
holding
this
picture
very
much
longer.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
Where
everything
is.
#66:
Okay.
I
want
to
try
to
do
after
a
little
bit
more
information--
#01:
There's
ah.... there
is
one
thing.
#66:
Okay.
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#01:
I
can't
.identify
it
with
anything,
but
I
get
a
feeling
of
walking
across
like
bridge
wire
or
arch
like
and
getting
to
the
building,
like
a
tight
rope
walk
or
walking
along
something
narrow.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
You
know,
just
a
flash
picture
of
that.
#66:
Okay.
Now,
this
man
who,
in
the
brown
coverall
suit,
came
through
the
door
that
had
the
cardboard?
# 01
:
# 66
:
# 01
:
Ummm,
I
didn’t
say
that.
Well,
see
if
you
can't
straighten
me
out.
He
came
from
the
opposite
side
of
the
area,
he
came
from
way
the
other
side.
#66:
Okay.
I
understood
you
to
say
that
this
door
that
was
open
that
had
the
cardboard
stuck
in
it,
was
the
door
that
the
man
with
the
brown
coveralls
came
through?
# 01
:
No,
I
not
sure.
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#66:
Okay.
#01:
First
place,
first
place,
I
have
this
male
that’s
crawling
through
something.
#66
:
That' s
correct
.
#01:
Or
in
something.
#66:
Okay.
I
think
that
we
better
end
here
because
you
are
obviously
are
losing
the
perceptions
you' ve
had
of
the
target
and
before
we
lose
the
floor
plan
and
have
you
mix
it
all
up,
I
want
to
end
here,
so
you
can
sketch
it
for
me.
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#01:
Okay.
On
the
drawing
I
drew
the
location
of
the
elevators
where
the
first
man
came
up
a
set
of
,
then
went
to
the
left,
went
up
a
set
steps,
went
through
an
entry
door.
And
if
you
followed
the
dotted
line,
it's
the
path
he
took,
'til
he
talked
to
the
second
man
denoted
by
a
"2".
That's
the
same
guy
that
was
typing
the
paper.
He
and
the
second
guy
came
out
in
this
dimly
lit
area,
this
other
room
and
went
around
and
stopped
discussed
two
doorways
and
the
second
doorway
is
the
one
I
talked
about.
And
the
second
guy
went
back
in
his
room
and
the
other
guy
left
by
the
same
way
he
came
in.
Now
the
path
of
the
second
guy
is
denoted
by
dots.
And
I
put
a
star
on
the
drawing
where
I
believe
the
crawl
area
to
be,
because
that's
where
I
saw
the
guy,
like
he
was
either
crawling
into
or
crawling
out
of
something.
And
this
third
guy
in
the
coveralls
then
went
into,
and
what
I
should
do
is
ah--
#66:
Okay,
now,
you
said
before
that
the
crawl
area
that
you
indicated
may
or
may
not
be
in
the
drawing
itself
.
#01:
Yeah,
I
wanted
to
finish
what
I
was
saying
first.
After
the
crawl
area
then
he
went
to
the
room
in
the
pictures
.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
Okay?
Now
that's
as
far
as
I
had
him
going
any
where.
But
then
I
had
him
outside
the
door
of
interest.
Now,
I
have
a
50,
feel
that
that's
where
I
put
the
little
star,
is
actually
where
the
crawl
way
area
is.
#66:
Urn,
urn.
#01:
If
it's
not
there,
then
it's
not
on
this
it's
somewhere
else.
picture
,
#66:
Okay
.
#01:
But
I
also,
the
room
in
outside
the
one
place
to
I
have
him
in
a
crawl
way
and
then
in
the
pictures,
but
then
I
have
him
door,
but
I
can't
honestly
put
him
from
the
other
through
the
areas.
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#66:
Let
me
#01:
It's
like
he
went
to
two
places,
but
not
through
the
areas
of
interest.
#66:
Okay,
let
me
ah,
let
me
see
if
I
understand.
You
have
three
separate
and
distinct
images
about
where
this
guy
is.
One
image
relates
to
crawling
through
something,
a
separate
image
in
going
through
the
door
which
we
spent
so
much
time
discussing
and
the
third
is
in
the
room
in
the
photographs
I’ ve
shown
you.
Are
those
to
be
separate?
#01:
That's
correct.
That's
correct.
#66:
Okay.
And
how
and
why
and
the
in
betweens
of
those
are--
#01:
--Beats
the
hell
out
of
me.
So.
#66:
Okay,
what
more
can
you
tell
me
about
this
door
down
here
that
you asterisks?
#01:
Just
that
sometimes
this
box
works
and
sometimes
it
don' t
and
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
modification
or
something
to
reduce
a
blinking
light
or
something
like
that,
I don't
know.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
That' s
it.
#66
:
Okay
,
f ine
.
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