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#66:
Tell
me
the
setting
in
which
you
perceive
this,
what's around
the area?
#01:
See aircraft near
it.
#66:
Okay.
From,
from here,
where
is
the rail yard area?
#01:
It's
a... east,
southeast,
close
enough
to
see,
no
more than
kilometers.
These
things
are
sitting
in
inside circles.
#66:
Ask
yourself,
the
relationship
between
the
aircraft
area
and
the
rail
yard,
ask
yourself
the
relationship between
the
aircraft
and
the
rail
yard
area
.
#01
There's
a... .I'm
having
trouble
finding
any
relationship.
Keep
getting
on
image,
keeps pounding
on
me,
it's
a,
like
nozzles
or
exhaust
nozzles
or
spray
nozzles .... It
' s
a,
these
supplies
are
brought
in
by
rail,
but
they
have
something
to
do
with
aircraft
.
#66:
Okay.
I
find
no
relation
between
your
descriptions
and
the
item
of
interest
in
the
envelope.
Perhaps
there
is
a connection that
I don't understand.
#01:
I don't
a
#66:
Let's
set
aside
this
perception
and
try
to
understand
it
later
.
#01:
That's
fine.
#66:
And focus now on the
envelope
and
let's
focus
on
the
envelope
and describe
the
item
in
the photograph
in
the
envelope.
Then
we
will
search
for
that
item.
Focus
only
on
the
envelope
and
describe
the
item
in
the photograph.
#01:
Just
see
a white cylinder.
#66:
From what perspective
do you see this white cylinder?
#01:
Laying
down,
just
a
long white
cylinder.
I'm trying
get
a..,
I
don't
have
anything
to
lay
against
in
size,
but
#66:
I
understand.
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#01:
Just
a
minute
It's
a.. fairly
large,
feet,
feet,
somewhere
in there,
seems
like.
#66:
Okay.
I
want
to
check
one
more
time
here,
not
to
describe
the
picture
itself,
but
using
the
photograph
in
the
envelope
and
describe
the
actual
item through
the photograph,
access
and
describe
the
actual
item.
#01:
See
a rocket
on
a
slanted
launcher.
It’s
got
stubby little tail
fins.
It's very
fat.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
It's
not
a. .it's
not
an .. .anti-aircraft
type
rocket.
it's
more
of
a
hmm,
I
want
to
say
long
range,
but
it's
like
short
range,
salt
type
rocket,
800,
900
kilometers
I'm not
getting
any
of
these
at
the
site.
#66:
Okay.
Now
I
have
no
further
questions
for
you,
but
I
would
for
a
moment
like
to
have
you
review
the
images
you've
had.
I
can
tell
by
your
voice
that
you,
you
know,
you
lost
your
concentration
a
little
bit.
But
I
'd
like
you
to
review
for
a
moment,
while you're
still
relaxed,
and
as
you
review,
tell
me
any
things
that
sometimes
happens
during
these
interviews,
that
you
throw
out
overlay,
because
you're sure
that
isn't
right.
#01:
I
get
a...
strong
impression
of.. parts
being
at
the
target
area.
I
don't
see entire
object,
I
see parts
of
it... part here
and
a part
there .... Seems
the most
common
items
is
the
exhaust parts,
the
nozzles,
they
have distinct design.
#66:
You seem
to have described those
today,
yes.
#01:
I
keep going
to
those
for
some
reason.
I
see
those
at
the
target
site,
but
I
don't
see
a
complete
item
like
in
the envelope.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
It's
the only
common
thing
I
could
find,
everything
else
is pieces.
#66:
Okay.
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#01:
There's
one
other
thing
The
thing
in
the
envelope,
I
see
in
a like
a
slant
rear
launcher
on
a
truck,
a
large,
large
truck.. I
don't
see
any
of
those
trucks
at
the
target.
I
see
a
tripod
type
apparatus
that
I.... keep wanting
to
turn
into
that
truck.
I
can't,
it's
just
a
tripod.
It
has
some
commonality
there,
but
I
don't
know
what
it
is.
Could
be
it's
the same
function.
#66:
Okay.
Anything
else?
#01:
Yes,
the aircraft
there,
support aircraft.
Ah
#66:
Break
that
out.
#01:
First
impression
was.. these
objects
defend
the
aircraft,
but
it's
backwards,
the
aircraft
defend
the objects.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
That's all
I
got.
#66:
Okay,
fine.
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Okav.
These
are
pretty much
explanatory.
Page
#1,
I
rendered
a,
these
are
bits
and
pieces
that
I
was
getting.
(A)
is
one
view
of
my
b
(
iq
}
is
the
bread
pan
shape.
It
seemed
like
it
was
g
fat
slab
of
something,
I
don't
know.
But
it
was
molded
and
rounded
and
everything.
(C)
is
a
nozzle
that
moves
around.
I
got
a
feeling
of
exhaus
spray
or
something
coming
from
it,
but
it
s
at ix ea
to
a,
like
a heavy metal plate
of
some
kind
and
it
rotatable,
you
know,
it
moves
around,
points
in
different directions
and
sprays
something
or
has
an
exhaust
or
something
like
that.
Page
#2
is
a,
I
don't
want
to
call
this
anything
except
a
concept.
But
I
got
the
feeling
®
this
was
over
near
the
aircraft
area
and
has
something
to
do with targeted object.
Page
#3
are more
clover
leaves.
It's
like
a
or
pattern
on
something.
And
then
I
had
the
item
(F)
which
are my white
tubes
or
containers.
I
felt
like
they
were
hollow
or
something.
They
he
something
in
them
and
they were
banded
together
in
fours
In
page
#4,
I
tried
to
render
the
truck
with
the
launcher,
but
it's
not
coming
out
, as
4rS!L™4. and
T ?
launcher.
It's
not
like
that,
it
s
different,
has
something
fat
sitting
on
the
launcher.
And
I
keep
trying
to make
it
into
a
rocket
and
I cant,
I
keep
coming
up
with
something
stubby
and
I
jus
can't
do
it
right,
I
can't
render
it
justice,
so,
you can
do whatever
you want with
that.
I understand.
Anything else?
No,
that's
all.
Oh,
well,
I
have,
I
have
a
really
strong
feeling,
an
impression
that
the
targeted
envelope,
okay,
is,
I
don't
know,
maybe
it
s
a
doctored
photograph,
if
it's
really
a
photograph.
But
I
get
a
really
strong
concept
feeling
like.
i
don't
know
how
to
explain
that,
like
I'm
getting
into
somebody's
head
when
I
targeted
that
envelope
today.
It's
was
like
I
was
getting
conceptually
into
somebody’s
head
and
trying
to
get
from
them
their
concept
of
what
the
target
is,
that
kind
o
thing.
That's
all
I have.
Okay.
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