+ Approved For Release 2000/08/08 FA, Ol: Ol: 663 Ol: 663 Ol: 663 Ol: 663 Ol: 66: a :,| ety HDP96-00788R001 600120002-1 Okay. Now,. relax and concentrate and free your mind of the perceptions you've had. Free your mind now and move to that area of the old section where you saw wall projections, where you saw people looking at wall projections. Move to that area now and describe the area to me. ..eLt's like ah, it's amachine that's projecting a..series of lines on the wall from some'kind of. another machine...It's . © projecting things you can't see with your eyes..only can see it when it's projected..slows things down so you can see them. Describe this machine that does this. Large, box shaped..uses ah...shoots something in the end that bounces around inside. Some kind of measurement device..that ah..measures time, relationship of time to something. Time and ah, time and ah, I don't know, variances in energy. ~All right. Focusing on this machine that does this. In your mind picture it in component parts. Functional modules that maybe fit together. Describe these pieces to me. _,eThere's the projector part that shoots a beam, that's one part. it's controlled beam. °..:: The elements of the beam can be changed, very, very narrow beam. It's the same component, is a ah..shield or a holder..that can be changed, that can be made up of different things. And the third part.is.a... a apparently some kind of holographic or spectrographic type of sensing device..that measures time rate or frequency or something. I just keep seeing a splatter of particles across ..a color spectrum. And then. there's a projection part that shows..electronically on a projection what this is. All right. You said before there were people that came and looked at this projection? yes. Have you got perception now.? Yes, I see projections is slowed down so they can recall it, like frame by frame and this black box machine,.in parts, does this check or test very rapidly and then they a..the film of this is recalled by frame. And they look for..a unique a..variances in the patterns..differences in..a particles or something. All right. Focus yourself now on this projection. Look at it with those in the room and describe it to me. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600120002-1
ae Approved For Release 2000/08/08 {:CtA Appes-0078eR001600120002-1 PAUSE Ol: Looks like a... 663 Be careful to describe exactly what you perceive and not (mumble). Ql: ~-I know I--- 66: I will wait, Ol: eeelt's foggy.. 66: Go ahead. Ol: Cloud like projection, ah..very perceptive paths or lines all overlining one another, some curve, some..intersecting and branching out, some dwindling out to nothing. But some are brighter than others, as if they're being used where others aren't. It's all foggy or cloudy. Never the same set of patterns per Frame. ...Like looking very deeply into the...machanics of a..some tiny atomic particle. It's always moving. ...I don't know... 663 Very goad. Ol: »-l don't know. Surprising technology, very high tech. ...It's like they're. carving up atoms. Splattering them into a picture... «-Trying to map the mechanics of it or the a, a yea, what makes: -s-. it work, All you can get is the reflection of the energy discharges, when they..when they break down, ..when they come apart. 663 All right. I have no further questions for you. But I would like to allow you a few mements to explore and comment on your own. Do this nov. Ol: Trying to look for a reason, for doing this. Just a minute. 66: I will wait. PAUSE Ol: They're apparently varying some type of beam projection and then trying to measure the...the resultant aberration or change in the.. the frequency of movement of a atom, I keep getting a picture of an atom with a revolving things, electrons, protons and whatnot. And I see it, it's frequency being altered and I see the things Flying apart and they're measuring the, that point of breakdown or whatnot. And..the a..required energy in the beam that cause the aberration. That's all I get. 66: All right, fine. Very good, Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600120002-1
‘-Approved For Release 2000/08, ¢ Ol: Ol: 66: DRAWING EXPLANATION Page #1 is the foldout logger, folder. It's in three parts and I depicted what's two columns on the left hand side. And these columns run all the way to the bottom of the page, but they're not necessarily filled in all the way down. But they're filled in with 6 digit numbers. There's like a title line at the top that'a very short. And then there's an ID line that's got four or five different spaces in it, underneath that. That's on the upper left hand side and it runs as far as it has to across the sheet. There's a very squared off blocked diagram with a lot of intersecting "Ys" and angles and some dotted lines. And what appears to always be five sided figures, when they do create a figure. And the line chart is always different from folder to Folder. And at each intersection are stacked digits, of two lines of six digits each. And the first is always higher than second and the second is not too far off from the first number. But they are always different for each intersection. And this is connected in some way to the projections. I think the differences are reflecting time and energy.-différences.: And it has something to do with densities or these logs reflect densities in some way. Ali these logs are kept from cards. that are in some kind of order and delivered to these logging clerks or whatever, in a box and they're always in some kind of an order. And they're either keeping track of or annotating these log cards in a way that will cause them to be used for updating some- thing else. I'm talking around an axle. here, and I'm not really sure [ know what I mean. But the logs are connected to the cards and the cards are IBM size. They don't appear to be IBM cards, but they look like it. They're about the same size. Page #2 is a picture of what I percieve to be the presentation on the wall. And these presentations are still life, you know, they're not moving. They're given a frame at a time. They're always different. Some of the lines are very ghost like, as if they're after thoughts. And other lines are very illuminated and superimposed or underimposed over the ghostlike, or under the ghostlike images. And it's all like in a fog. And there seems always be a huge black dot, kind of fuzzy, that's right in the center of each of the frames. And I get the feeling like this is an electronic presentation of something, like the mechanics of something that's going on. It's captured in like a hundred frames and then you go back and look at each individual frame, because whatever happens is so rapid that you know it can't be looked at any other way. And it can't be seen with human eye, so it has to be done with machines. And that it has something to do with the projection of different beams or fequencies through different materials. And that's all. Okay, fine. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600120002-1
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