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[Busby, and a number of others
I
cant
recall.
Could
I
verify
their
roles and
the
specifics
of
their involvement?
I
told him there was nothing
I
could do
to
help
him.
He seemed to back off somewhat from that approach and
offered
that he would
or could design the presentation so as to
completely
separate me
from
the
initial
portion,
which
wouldn't
show any connection between me and the
military aspects
of the
project,
if
I would
only
talk
with him
off the
record.
He
stated
that he
really needed me
to do the
live remote viewing
for the
wrap up
of part two.
I
told him
that
I
couldn't help
him.
He stated that there were a number of others that were
cooperating,
that he had given them
like guarantees.
He said he
had made promises
to others,
to
protect them from any
repercussions, and he
specifically named
Hal
Puthoff as one
of
these others.
He then said that he had even spoken to Keith
Harary, who, he stated, was agreeable
to providing some
information.
I
told him
that was
nice,
but "there was
nothing
I
could do to help him.
He then informed me,
that he already had
sufficient
information
regarding me, he
didn't need anything
else from me,
except the
actual
live remote viewing.
If
l
did
that viewing,
how
it was done and
edited, could make quite a difference to my
reputation.
If
I
didn't do
it, then he
couldn't guarantee
anything
with
regard towards
editing.
At
this
point
I
told him
there was nothing
I could do
to help him.
He asked me not to make a firm decision that moment.
He
asked me to think about
it, and told me that he would
call
sometime Memorial
Day.
I received a call from Mr. Schnabel on the 28th of May.
He
said that he wanted to
tell me one other thing, before
I made up
my mind.
He said he talked with the producer and they would
guarantee
in
writing,
not to connect me
in any way
to the
military or the
cold war
issues;
they would
let me
advertise
both
my business and book
in my portion
of the film
clip, as long as
I
participated as the remote viewer
in the
live
demonstration.
I
thanked
him
for the
information.
I received another call from
Mr. Schnable on the 30th
of
May.
He asked
if
I had made a decision.
I told him that under
the circumstances,
I
couldn't help him.
As long as he was
intent
on
producing a
political statement
with
his program,
or pursue
the
sensational,
I would
feel compelled
to
refuse.
I
told him
that
if the format for his program had been modeled on the ABC
effort, perhaps focused on the science
of
it,
or focused on some
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light on the history beyond
that.
He was
very disappointed
with
the
decision,
which
I
believe
will be
reflected
in the program as
it
is produced and
edited.
I found out two other items
of
interest on the morning
of
the 30th
of May.
One
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telling people within The Monroe
Institute (management)
that he and
I were
collaborating
with
Mr.
Schnabel on a
film
production.
Two
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| had forwarded a film to Schnabel,
of three
remote
viewings
that
I
had done
experimentally
at
the
institute
in
1983.
Schnabel
told me this when he had
called, saying that
he had the
film, and intended to use
it
in
his
production.
I have since written a formal
letter
to|
(attached),
requesting
that he stop
telling
people we are working
together,
as
well
as demanding
that he
retrieve
the
film
clip.
What could be
particularly damaging about the
film
clip
is
that
its contents were produced while
Mr.
Robert Monroe was under
contract from the old
office
at
Ft. Meade.
We paid him for
experiments performed
in
his
lab
in support
of the
Ft. Meade
effort.
Use
of the
film
out
of
context would
not be
particularly
meaningful,
however,
if
it were
presented
within
the
original
context,
it could be very revealing and only add to the
sensationalism
of the show Mr. Schnabel
is attempting to produce.
Since Mr. Monroe
is now dead, only
and
I know of the
circumstances
surrounding
the
film
clip.
I suspect
that
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has
filled Schnabel
in.
In my discussion with Schnabel,
it was obvious, that a great
deal
of
information has leaked
regarding the
old
office
at
Ft.
Meade.
The
extent
of this
information
leak was
implied by the
content
of
Schnabel's
conversation
and
overall
knowledgeability,
especially
while
referencing
individuals
by name.
The
following
indicates what
I
believe has been
implied by my conversation with
Schnabel:
- Has been having quite open conversations
with
Schnabel,
in which he
has
provided
substantial
historical
data.
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mission
related data
- which may be the case,
but
it
is obvious
that he has provided many
of the names,
inter-connections,
meaningful
historical
ties,
etc.,
between
all
or most
players
at
all
levels.
I believe that he may have engineered the
entire
series
of contacts between Sschnabel and
others.
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about six or seven years at
Ft. Meade)
- Has had quite open
conversations
with
Schnabel,
in which
he
provided
substantial
historical
data,
but
only
with the
understanding
that he
not be
asked
about
specific
military
mission
related
RV,
that many
of
his comments be taken
off the
record, and that he be protected as
a source.
(Formerly a remote viewer and training NCO for a
period
of about three years
at the beginning
of the
project
at
Ft. Meade)
- Has
participated
in many open conversations with
Schnabel.
The extent
of information provided
is unknown,
but
believed
to be
minimal, since he
only
participated
for a
re Ia iivelv shod
time
in
the
old
project.
- (Formerly a member of the group at
Ft. Meade just
prior to MG
Stubblebine's departure
(early
retirement))
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Iclaims to have been one
of the best remote viewers, which
he
isn't;
claims
a
training
qualification,
which
he
doesn't
possess; has probably had numerous open conversations regarding
the
history
of the
Ft. Meade
Office, as
well as some
information
regarding
specific
mission
related
efforts,
and
his
accuracies
with
regard towards these
specific
targets.
May have assisted
in
engineering
the
original
contacts
with
Schnabel.
(Formerly a member of the group at
Ft.
Meade,
did some remote viewing.
Currently active duty with the
- Believe he has had at
least some
off the
record
discussions
with Schnabel
in
reference
to some of the
history of the
Ft. Meade
Office; and has made
numerous recommendations on who else to speak with.
I spoke with
after an
initial
conversation
with
Schnabel
wherein he
stated
that he had talked with
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with Schnabel.
But information Schnabel possessed could
only
have come from
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at Headquarters INSCOM.
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involvement
in the paranormal
area.
Is a close
friend to Jim
Schnabel, as
related
in a recent conversation with me
at my home.
Has
probably shared
private
information
relating
to the
higher
echelon
inter-actions
regarding the
project
at
Ft.
Meade,
at
least as related to him by MG Stubblebine (Commander, INSCOM).
Dr. Harold Puthoff
- (Formerly
in charge
of the
Scientific
effort
at
SRI-International,
until the mid
1980's)
- Has had some
scientific
discussions
about
remote
viewing
with
Schnabel;
but
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the
military
aspects.
I was assured by Schnabel that
I and my information would
handled
in a
like manner (as with
Puthoff), and any request not
to be associated
with
or connected
to the
military
portion
of the
show, would be honored.
My primary concern
is that
I
will be
reflected as having
either shared
information
with
Schnabel,
or someone
else
will
make such an
assertion,
in order to
involve me
directly with the
production
of the
film.
has already done
this
locally and
I have taken steps
(see attached
letter)
to stop
this
from happening.
I have no reason to believe
it won't be done
again
at a
different
level.
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