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#66:
Hold the
cone shape
figure
in your mind and
concentrate on
that.
Concentrate on
it
.
.
.
Carefully concentrate and then ask yourself.
.
.
ask yourself.
.
.
what relationship
does that
have with the target.
Where does that
fit
in
the target.
Ask yourself that question
as you
hold the image
in your mind.
PAUSE
#7
:
Hmmm
.
.
.
PAUSE
#7:
Well,
there must be
a
lot
of garbage flying
around.
Then
all
of
a sudden
I
just
very quick
.
.
.
there
it
goes
again.
I
saw
a strawberry
plant.
Can you believe that?
Its
a
.
.
Its
a
.
.
okay.
I want
to
say what
it
looks
like.
It
looks
like
a clay,
a red clay
pot with.
.
.
strawberry plant
in
it.
That
don't make sense.
There's some more.
.
.
PAUSE
I
don't
know,
maybe
I'll just
tell what
I'm seeing.
I
see.
.
.
I
see.
.
.
what
do you call
them,
what
do you call
them,
succulents — hens and chickens.
Bromalades.
PAUSE
#66:
Okay,
why
don't you see
if you could draw some
of the images you've
had.
#7:
Wait
a minute.
Wait
a minute,
I
,
.
.
a
.
.
.
I'll describe
the
(not
audible).
I
see.
.
.
I
see green.
I
can
see
long,
green
leaves,
I
see
blue
.
TURN OVER TAPE
#7:
Did the thing shut off?
#66:
Its on
now,
if you want
to
do some drawing.
#7:
I was having all kinds of trouble with
it.
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#7:
#66,
I
can't keep from analyzing.
#66:
That's what these exercises are
all
about.
Is
we
go through this
and.
.
.
PAUSE
#66:
But you must
feel
free
to comment on anything
you want.
And don't
close your mind and restrict
it and say,
Oh that's not
ture because
its
overlay
.
#7:
Yeah.
#66:
You gotta
feel.
.
.
#7:
What kept tearing me up was
I
kept.
.
.
Some of
the stuff
didn't
fit,
but
I
kept
flashing.
.
.
and I'm sure that's
all
it was,
I
kept
flashing
to
a shopping center that
looked like one
I was
in the other
day.
#66:
Urn hm.
#7:
So this has got
to be
.
.
.
some kind of
"noise",
overlay,
and
I
found myself throwing out
a
lot
of
things
I
felt was part
of that
scene.
#66:
That's
fine.
But you have
to express those
things.
Go ahead and tell me all
about
it.
#7:
I
saw him standing.
.
.
several times
in roughly
the same place.
That
is
.
.
.
maybe
I
felt
I
was standing there.
But this would flash
in and
I tried to throw
it
out
and get rid of
it and
then everything would go cloudy and I'd start
seeing bits
and pieces of
information coming
in
again.
And all of
a sudden this would come on
clear again.
#66:
Urn hm.
#7:
In that
same area.
#66:
Its
a little bit
early.
.
.
#7:
I
just
felt
I was wasting time with
a
lot
of
my worries and
I
couldn't
get
rid of
it
and
it
would come back.
It was almost
like
I was afraid
it would come back and
it would.
#66:
Okay,
at
this point
in time you have
to
let
all
of that
flow out and let
it
flow out and get
it
.
.
.
get used to saying all
that
stuff.
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#7
:
Okay,
initially,
I
saw what appeared to be,
these
are
not
very good paper clips,
but
they
were more even than
that.
The loops were
lined
up
as though you could,
you know,
it was
like
it was probably surveyed and very
straight.
(DRAWING)
Off
to the right.
I
saw shapes
that,
if
I
remember,
Hmmm.
.
.
a bunch of these
shapes.
Several
of them and they were coming
in.
.
.
These returned several
times.
PAUSE
#7:
I
later got
a distinct feeling that
I was looking
at.
.
.1
think
I mentioned this,
looked like
a
.
.
.
guard
fence.
.
for flowers.
Then
I
found
myself,
I
remember quite distinctly.
.
.
how do
I
do this?
PAUSE
I'm probably.
.
.
I'm probably adding to
this.
PAUSE
This makes
no sense.
And
I.
.
.
I
got
a feeling
there's some clutter here but
I
couldn't make
it
out.
This
shape.
.
.
okay.
.
.
later returned.
What
the heck.
.
.Oh.
.
.
Okay.
.
.
Flower pot.
PAUSE
On several occasions
I
got
a view off
to my
left.
#66:
Um
hm.
#7:
And this
is part
of
the,
I
think this
is
a part
of
the overlaying.
.
.
.
There appeared to be
plants
in
here.
I'm standing about
here.
Three
feet
high.
That's the way
it appeared to
be.
I'm looking towards
a building or something
here
.
PAUSE
I
later backed off and looked at the building
again.
Looked at
it
again
from here;
the shape
could have been scalloped,
I'm not
sure.
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And
I
saw
a
.
.
.
long layer pattern
here.
It could have been
.
.
.
vertical
shape.
.
.
PAUSE
#7:
Just before
I
started,
#66,
I
had the most
brilliant
lavendar,
blue-lavendar
,
God awful,
color,
the whole — everything
I
saw was just
a smooth lavendar
color.
Very,
very bright.
I started to mention
it
and
I
realized that
it
was before.
.
.
#66:
But
that's okay.
Its
important
to mention
it.
#7:
Time.
Well,
okay,
I'm mentioning
it
now.
I
tried to
get
it out
of my mind;
tried to wipe
it
away and after
it seemed like several
seconds,
I was able to
get
it
to slowly
fade
away
to
the,
to the right.
This
is taking on the look like the garbage
I
got
the
last
time.
I
keep seeing things.
Unrelated things.
Rather than backing off and
seeing
a total scene and walking around
it
like
I
.
.
.
#66:
Its perfectly all right.
That,
that.
.
.
that
seems
to be characteristic of the way some people
have worked.
PAUSE
#7:
Normally,
I bring
a
lot
of things out
but.
.
.
PAUSE
Oh yes.
I
had the distinct
feeling.
.
.
yeah.
PAUSE
Let's
do
that
again.
#66:
You can start
a new piece of paper.
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#7:
I
had the distinct
feeling of seeing
a round
shape.
Back here.
This was very bright,
looking north.
.
.
I
had the feeling that
this was
lit
up with sunlight and this here
was
in shadows.
PAUSE
#7:
Ah.
.
.
Along.
.
.
I
had the feeling of.
.
.
I
have
to
do this,
draw that.
.
.
perspective,
how
do you
do that?
Looking,
looking.
.
.
looking up under.
.
.
maybe.
.
.
looks
like
it was
an overhang and
it was bright back
in
there.
.
.
I'm carrying this thing out
to
the
wall,
but
anyway,
that's
the way
it
looked.
This was bright
and
it seemed like maybe there
was
a door here and
I
had the feeling,
and
I
don't know
if
I
can
do
that,
but
I
had the
feeling
I was
seeing.
.
.
the large circular
kind of inverted dish shape.
That's when
I
thought
I was getting garbage.
I
got
a light
shape.
.
.
hanging over here
to the
left.
This
door.
But
it was definitely outside looking up
and
in.
.
.
.
And then,
.
.it.
.
.it.
.
.it
was very
clear,
but
it
could have been.
.
garbage.
PAUSE
This how you spell ceiling?
#66:
Urn hm.
PAUSE
#7:
Did
I mention anything else? ...
It was
outside.
Hmm.
.
.
I
guess
that was
about
it,
wasn't
it?
#66:
Yeah.
Is there anything that you think you
want
to
add?
Look back through your pictures
once more and see
if there's anything you want
to
add.
PAUSE
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