_ Approved For Release 2000/08/07 fr AD Ha f557BBR000200390001-8 #31: #11: #31: #11: #31: #11: $31: #11: #31: #il: #31: #11: #31: #11: Okay, towards the end of the session, you were directed to move back to this area? The end. . I believe it was the end of the building where the X is. The small X. Referring to Drawing 3. I'm a little confused here. Drawing 2. Drawing 2. I'm trying to keep the continuity of your imagery here and disregarding this continuity of the session. Am I right that this is your first into here. Right. ‘Okay, here Sketch 3 is your first into review. Then you were directed to the Northeast section of the building. Right. Okay. Then you were directed back to this area. I went right back to the same spot. Okay, in continuity of the same spot and location of the building that part of the session you were directed to move and describe the finished product. Okay, you had. the feeling that this part of the session, that it was a vehicle with large tires, you didn't have a feeling for tract type vehicle though. No, definitelly not. Okay, and you had the association that was like a BTR-60. Okay. Did you acquire. . adequate input during that second half of the session to do a vehicle sketch? J. can give some pretty generalized stuff. TURN OVER TAPE #11: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CINRARE S| Just a crude side view. The tires were very large and tractor like. PAUSE I keep . .. I keep wanting to say larger. It looks like a BTR-60 but larger than a BTR60. It... If I had to put a stick person next to it, say average 6 foot person, those tires appeared to be about 6 to 7 foot in diameter, maybe that's why I get the feeling that it's larger. Than a BTR 60. And the thing that comes to mind -is that now that I've drawn it and I felt the shape and everything, I want to say SA-8. Or something similar to that. That's » - and I'm not that familiar with the SA-8 myself. But that's . . its about that size. bee 00200390001-8 ace)
. Approved For Release cain mh Ud et mae #11: #31: #1l: #313 #11; #31: #11; $31: #11: #31: #11: #31: And it is definitely a wheeled, wheeled type vehicle. Large tractor, tractor like wheels. In fact, at first I thought I was looking at a tractor rolling off the assembly line. Okay, in your Sketch 4 view there, in your earlier part of the session, I realize you were absorbing many data bits coming in, did you have a feeling possibly more defined than what is .. . than what apparently would be a (not audible). The blue - I have just a blob. Just a blob or did you get any more refinement of that imagery. No. At that point, I was either. . . I was either looking at it form that or was.right up on it and was not seeing anything like this. No, at that point. . . And I really thought I was going to have a difficult time figuring out what the heck was going on there because of that particular time when I was at. the assembly line, all I knew was there was some- thing. big being put together. And I did not see the vehicle and in fact I did not get a side shot I got an angle shot from the back. There seemed to be... . Okay, since you did get an angle shot from the back, could you. . . could you give me one of those. Um hm. That will be on 6, I guess, yes. There seemed to be a big set of doors right here and to the right there was a building within this building whether this was a quality control building, or whatever, offices, you know like there may have been a door here with windows and stuff around it. But this ....-. was at the end point. And... . . there was a large door over here that. was open and I got a silhouette. . . PAUSE At this big door over here was closed. Okay? That's fine.’ That's fine. A lot of help. And again, that's approximately about the size, this door here in relationship to... to vehicle magnitude. Okay. Well good, all right. . . I think we've sort of jumped a little bit here but just let me go through Okay, we have the exact center. You were told to move to the Approved For Releasec2Q00/0st0dni GIA-RBR96,00788R00020030000 $68 “CECRET
Cn GefRE:dbro02 -Approved For Release 2000/08/07 ‘a? 6 dsx000200380001-8 #11: #31: #11: had a cradle like affair; large garage type door; feeling that it went outdoor to storage; things moved out to store; moved into the big open area and then the Northeast corner, large building inside large building like a office or quality control. So we do have a little bleed over on Sketch 6 apparently. Right. From that imagery do you have any more than what you've already done on Sketch 6 that. would . . .?? No, but what I talked about, the other door, and the (not audible) was in a different position. And I'll try to draw a kind of an overhead. See I don't know if there's an appendage on that building or not, but I'll just draw a straight building. Kind of like. . PAUSE And the square here is the building within the building. Now, over here is the door I was talking about the first time. And, yes, there is an appendange on this building because I remember it coming out here. I don't know where it goes here, maybe it. . . where the dotted line is, but there is an appendage or a wall ar something where the solid line is because . . . where this red line is forklifts and stuff move back and forth in and out of here and they bring material for some reason that's being stored out here, outside. Okay, I.don't know what material this is, what form its in or whatever. But they move in and. out, this material is stored out here. I had a feeling that there may be another building over here. Somewhere. And that this is an open area for storage. And... . + this is way out of scale but this is where I had this cradle type thing. Okay it was located approximately there. And it was a lot of «2. eas storage in here and storage along here. The... +s - The assembly line came like that down the center of the building and you had machines lined up here and over here throughout the building. What type machines they were, I don't know. I. just put an M in here. And there was all kinds of material stacked and stored about these machines. Solid scribbles. PAUSE And that was on both sides of the assembly line. And at the point where I moved, where I was directed to the North, Northeast end of the building I stopped right about where that red arrow is and I saw that door going out and I explored out there. I looked out there. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : DO oeGRE. 10 1 bo
a0 gene _Approved For Release 2000/08/07 \CIA-RIP9$-00788R000200390001-8 #1l: #31: #11: #31: #11: #31: fll: That's where I had that feeling. This is .... a building, inside building. And the vehicle... . T'll put right here. Okay on the red arrow, the red double arrow you have there would you just make some small annotation regarding the feeling about movement and activity there. Like forklift activity or... PAUSE Okay. And this isn't sketchable but my last question is did you have. . would you give me some groups if you will regarding your feelings and impressions on function. #66 asked you to describe the function of the building. Function? Industrial. Without being redundant necessarily with what you'd said, what you had mentioned during the session was where the stuff is finalized or completed at this point. Whatever is being put together is finished at this point. Did you have any other associative. .. ahh. . . feelings? No, this whole building is like the final assembly line at a... +. you know, Ford Motor Company, or Case Tractor Company or... Very, very typical manufacturering. Okay. That's all I have. Do you have anything you'd like to add. No. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RPS6-0748RB00f00390001-8
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