SG1I SG1I OA t_ 200190001-9 OK. a Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : @\& ct ee Cy ne CE as MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD 1 September 1981 SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME Briefing for NSA Scientific Advisory Committee, 28 August 1981 (U) SG1I 1. (C) BACKGROUND: NSA has been sending a representative PO as an unofficial observer to the DoD GRILL FLAME meetings for some time. However, been an active partner in the GRILL FLAME effort. Recently,. had been.directed by the DIRNSA to have the NSA Scientific Advisory Committee study the. current DoD program and to make a recommendation as to whether or not NSA should support the current DoD effort. MEM proceeded to SG1I arrange a series of briefings for this committee to include: a. CIA presentation b. DIA presentation - SG1J c. SRI-I presentation - Dr. Puthoff d. INSCOM presentation - LTC Watt e. Unofficial presentation ~ CDR Stewart 2. (U) I presented a two-hour briefing to the committee on 28 Aug 81. Following personnel were present: SGI DEI NSA (Tech Applications & Advancement ) - Host Dr. Willis Ware, Chairman, NSA Scientific Advisory Committee Rand Corporation, Santa Monica, California Dr. James Burnett, Member of Committee we, TRW Dr. Ronald Wigington, Member of Committee Director, R&D Chemical Abstract Services SG1I cam rrimacere ae of Committee Retired from NSA (former Crypto Manager) S| CDR Jake Stewart Office of Naval Intelligence hg: Teese NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : cS) 5 re ni LTC Robert Jachim INSCOM LTC Murray B. Watt INSCOM 3, (U) Inclosure 1 provides the outline of the presentation I gave them. 4. (C) I showed the committee several examples of our finished products including complete details on how we conducted our sessions. Further, IT passed around selected samples of GRILL FLAME evaluations that we have received from consumers. (See our TOP SECRET eval file.) I stressed that our effort was not research and development, but strictly operational in nature. 5. (U) 1 would say that the committee received the presentation with an “open mind" attitude. Their questions and keen interest demonstrated that they were trying to search out the answers to a very puzzling. problem. 1 Inclosure — Meee WATT As stated (S) LTC, MI INSCOM GRILL FLAME Regraded CONFIDENTIAL when separated Project Manager from SECRET inclosure COL MILLER SECRET Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9
“+ Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R0012001 PROGRAMN 4 i ME OCT 78 ~ DEC 783 DEC 78 ~ FEB 79: APR 79 ~ OCT 79: HAY 79 ~ DEC 79; NOV 79 — PRESENT: JAN 80 ~ PRESENT: AUG 80 NOT RELEASABLE Teel 4 ae aS 900 01-9 DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT EVENT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT SCREENING & SELECTION OF PERSONNEL IN-HOUSE TRAINING OPERATIONAL TASKING TASK FORCE ESTABLISHED MOVE TQ NEW FACILITY TO FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9 nae
& Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : cia-RpP96-o07seR0012 EAA ET oo AS OF 26 UNE 1981 i TASKING ORGANIZATIONS NO. OF PROJECTS NO. OF SESSIONS : HQ, USAINSCOM | 2 5 NSC 3 18 Ke Jcs 3 227 : ACSI/AMSAA | 9 65 ® CIA 25 109 F SG1H P| 2 il 962D MIC 3 9 ITAC 14 126 USA OPS GP 3 ral TOTALS: 64 575 4 Sic ae Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : . , * Fee
«, Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R00 1¥pq D AS CF 26 JUNE 1981 SUMMARY OF SESSIONS TRAINING 207 OPERATIONAL 575 : PROJECTS: 64 *A. COMPLETES: 51 B. WORKING: 12 Cc. INACTIVE: 1 INTELLIGENCE PROVIDED: A. USEFUL DATA PROVIDED 24 PROJECTS B. FAILED TQ HELP 24 PROJECTS C. DATA STILL BEING STUDIED CONCERNING 16 PROJECTS *INCLUDES ONE PROJECT CANCELLED. NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
cesta eee ne ncanee cectineans coe pee cena Ree ee mtn Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788ROOG + . EXCERPS FROM CUSTOMER EVALUATIONS: ITAC: There were a few spectacular reports...the project confirmed with uncanny accuracy the presence of a recently constructed major ditch array and the number and type of elite units in a remote garrison area. CIA: In sum, QUT experience with GF, thus far, tends to strengthen the validity of the techniques involved and also indicates that its greatest utility as an operational tool may be in the CI field. JCS: In 16 out of 18 cases GF sources described the Facility in sufficient detail to allow positive identification. ITAC: I would also like to compliment you and your personnel on achieving an intelligence community "First," ~ ee JCS: Therefore, it is the judgement of this analyst that extensive testing and development of control procedures be accomplished before any final assessment of the value of GF material can . be made- ' ; septa. gt* iaclnactin ha. ee wats Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : cnnoruomuandyeliel ind ie Pire Bee