‘ ‘+ Approved For Release 2000r0giay ECR Pere te00s20001-3 IAG PA-F-SD 29 July 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - HU-1029/8307/01 (U) 1. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) On 260900 July 1983, source #01 was interviewed concerning three areas designated to him as areas "F", "G", and "H" within a group of unidentified buildings. The project 8307 sponsor had provided geographic coordinates of the buildings, a photograph of the buildings, and a map showing their relative location (see Incl 1). 2. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) For this interview source was shown the photograph provided by sponsor. Other information provided by the sponsor was not shown to the source as the collection plan called for its use as "feedback" and cuing material for possible subsequent interviews. 3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared including a narritive explanation of Source's drawing (see Incl 2). 4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the sponsor. Attached to the report as EXHIBIT I was a copy of Source's drawing. This report related the salient points of the interview. (see Incl 3). YA Cote 3 Incl FREDERICK H. ATWATER as CPT, MI OPS/TNG Officer CLASSIFIED BY: CDR, INSCOM DECL: OADR re ES a ae Approved For Release 2000/09 EGR Sop ero: 600390001-3
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Approved For Release 2000/08/0 acl. Obs TRANSCRIPT #663 This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0900 hours 26 July 1983. Focus your attention now, focus on the areas "F", "G", and "H" indicated in the photograph I've shown you and describe these areas to me. PAUSE #01: See a...a workshop...a X-ray, ...photographing through things.....wall with....beakers, test tubes, sinks....It's in the "F" building. seoeeees BOttles of chemicals.... The top tables,..stone, stone tables. .sevevae #66: Work from the floors down in area "F". #01: ...Many smal rooms, ...two to three people,...writing papers, working on papers. Many book shelves in these rooms. ....See a...resident type apartments,..lower floors...go into the "G" ALCAsvseeseeeeeeeeVery like a....like a....research something. #66: Review your perception of area "F" from the top down. Summarize. #01; ..It was backwards, had a ..residence type areas, top,...two layers, rooms.....Next layer is a...chemicals, chemical lab, place with X-ray, sinks, beakers,...stone, stone...desks, stone tables. .sein the next layer, part of "G",..ah,..office..areas, three people, two people, paper, bookshelves, stacks of materials, desks, chairs,... many, many of these. #663 And next floor down in area? #01: That's all I get. #663 Okay. Now in these office areas, describe personnel activity and equipment. #01: ....eReading and writing...analysis type work; papers, folders, books. #66: Break out word analysis. NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONSI.S Approved For Release 2000/08/08 30788RO001600390001-3 Twel nv
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RBR Stet “f “ey vs 80390001-3 #01; It's analysis, research papers, books, ...folders, data bits, information,..it's all incomplete. #663 Okay. Activity is described, describe personnel. #01: oeeeee se Military, civilian mix. Seems to be more military,...all uniforms...predominately women. #663 Women military, women civilian? #01; Both, women are predominantly civilian, men is predominantly military. #66; All right. Now, equipment-- #01: --Folders. #663 Equipment office area of "F", #01: Just folders, papers, books, desks, file cabinets, bookshelves. .....+.2+.-.-strong feeling of some kind of analysis...mixed with administrative work. #663 All right. Now, you said before that this was connected in some way with area "G"? #01: Yes. #66: All right, let's move now to area "G" and scan from the top down area "G". #01; coca cece reese eee slLOP floors....rooms...wait a minute.....The upper two, three floors are all alike, not small rooms, not large rooms, moderate size, all full of people, five to eight people to a room,...long desks, not desks, long tables, like desks. eee. Stacks of papers everywhere,..large stacks, all copies things, things written, said . #663 I'll give you a few minutes now to focus intently on these areas and describe the activity that takes place here. #01: cece cece eee eee sees ees (mumble) identifications....and...information, people oriented information. Filing..index files, people and groups of people. #663 Okay. (mumble) raw data, break out the physical activity taking place. ABE Eo w Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600390001-3 2
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600390001-3 #01; #66: #01: #66: #01; #66: #01: £663 #01: #663 #01: #66: #01: £66: #01: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : eeeeee Marking ...individual papers with blocks, writing notes, transcribing notes, files... filing papers. Okay. If I understood you right, the upper two or three floors have similar activity going on and these rooms have stacks of papers on which these sets of people work on and do the activity with these papers that you've described? Yes. All right. Now describe the people themselves, personnel. ooeccesess MOStly...civilian, like dressed in some uniform way. ...I don't understand it. All right. Now, male or female? Both,....both. Okay. Now we talked about the activity and we've talked about the personnel participating in the this activity; equipment, equipment in these rooms on the upper floors of "G" None, just papers, files, folders. All right. Some typewriters,..seems.. there's direct connection with equipment though I can't identify. Tell me about the typewriters. Standard manuals,....some remote or far away equipment connection All right. Now, before we go down in floors, before we do this, I want you to take a quick look to insure that you have, I want you to look left and right in area "G", so that you can be assured that you have in fact looked at all of the upper floors of area "G", both left and right of the stairwell. So look. I have. ae E04 88R001600390001-3
88R001600390001-3 v ie el ahs & #663 You have? You're sure of that, okay. Let's move down in floors now, down to the middle level floors, the middle level floors in area "G". #01: seeeeseee See four sections,..its all an office, rooms, formally decorated,....sort of like directors, controllers...have, have staffs,..others who control somewhere. #6063 Okay. You say you have it divided into four sections, break out section. #01: .e ust a minute. Geographic, based on geographics, not, not country, but a.....a...special area designation. #663 All right. JI understand that the middle level, the middle level of area "G" is broken up into four general sections which pertain to geographic locations, I assume global geographic locations? #01: oeeee ANy-m #663 When you say geographic-- #01: . smaller, smaller areas. #663 Okay, when you talk about geographic locations, you're talking about areas of the world? #01: Yes. #66: All right. Now, also I understand that these offices seem to be a bit more formally decorated and have to do with leadership and staff positions? #01: Yes. #66: All right. Now, in looking at these middle level floors, break out personnel, activity and equipment. #01: weeeeee Same,...-almost (mumble), I don't know. #66: The four areas are generally the same, one to the other? #01: Yes. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600390001-3 4
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : ClASR BR #663 #01: #66: #01: #66: #01: #663 #01: #66: #01: peas 788R001600390001-3 All right. These people generally military, civilian, men, women? Men, dominantly men,....some civilian, some military, but all dressed as civilians. All right. Now the activity I believe you've described as being a management staff type activity. Let's examine the equipment characteristic of mid floors of area "G", the mid level floors of area "G". It's a...management, staff, but with control, control type staff. All right, very good. Don't see any equipment, just desks, chairs, office,....office type things... All right, do we have any secretarial support type of equipment? Just a minute. ......+...+...-Have a..some kind of a special machine...for a...some kind of special typewriter that's...for a...instruction. It's not the right word, it's a....passing something, ...relaying something. ....It's a, a, a...changing machine or something. Ah...it's complicated, it's electronic, ...things are sent to it,...through it,.. before they're allowed to leave the room, things are put through it, instructions.. a...requirements....has special kinds of keyboards ..eand a..adjustable... patch cord squares, . wires,...maybe some kind of translatings, translate a...controls,...it's complicated. Each directorate has these,..each section. All right. Let us move then from the mid level, four directorates, to the lower levels, the lower floors now of area "G". -ee.e. They're large offices, fancy, reception area,...a..main entrance.....kind of a....large food place, like cafeteria, eating place and a supply area,....place or store of some kind, apparently clothing,...see shelves of clothes. .....appears to be general service area. ¥F RRR: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : ck: Ri 00788R001600390001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/0&3G1AS#MR9€-00788R001600390001-3 #66: Okay. #01: Couple large offices. $66: You have some large decorative offices, a reception area and other things. Let's start with the main entrance and describe the main entrance to me and what goes on there, main entrance to area "G"? #01: Outline white stone, double wide doors,...gray stone border, white walls,...guards, a large mural on the wall, left to right, picture with stars, and a..lines through stars, the lines connecting stars. #663 Tell me about the guards. #01; Decorative, just standing there. . They're armed, ah.. they have some kind .....machine guns, automatics,..funny helmets. #663 You said decorative? #01; No function,..don't do anything. #66: Okay, watch someone come into the building and see what happens. #013 .eeeeWalked in...in the....low counter, with an in and out side, and women checking some card. #662 Okay. I want you to orient this lower floor, you have some, down here from this main entrance, you some large offices, you have an eating area, store area. I want you to orient yourself for a few minutes because I'm going to ask you later to draw this main entrance area. PAUSE #01; Okay. #66: All right. Now, check to see if there's anything below ground under "G", under building "G". #01; There's storage areas and...heating equipment. #66: All right. #01: »»eRooms full coal, coal. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001600390001-3 6
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : #663 #01: #663 #01: #66: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : Cl Aa B8R001600390001-3 I have no further questions on the areas "F", "G", and "H", I'd like you to take a moment now and remember the main entrance area of area "G"., I'll ask you to draw that. Just a minute. eeeeeeeeeeAh, long building is a garage. See long row of cars parked in it. Its the E building. All right. Just a second.........Towers in the area are line-of-sight communications facilities,....like shielded microwave antennas. That's all I get. All right. Be sure you recall the main entrance to area "G", That's fine. 88R001600390001-3
Approved For Release 2000/ #01: #66: #01; #662 #01: #66: #01: -00788R001600390001-3 DRAWING EX PLANAT ION In the drawing that I drew here is the entry from the quadrangle into area "G", bottom floor. The entire floor is essentially detached from areas "F" and "H", in other words, you can't gain access to "F" and "H" except through the staircase. And I've indicated with an asterisk the position of the, what I call decorative guards. These are, you know, polished, armed, sentry type guards that stand just inside the door and look pretty. And then there's where the entry check is and exit check is, there's a couple women that check some kind of card going in and out. There's an open entry in the foyer to the cafeteria, what I call a cafeteria, I don't know what it is, some kind of eating area. And the kitchen, I perceive, to be in the rear. A staircase and the fancy offices are to the right. But you can only gain entry to them through the entry check. On the other side. are stores and clothes, that kind of thing, you know, like a general services type area. Okay. And it seems like the stores are mostly clothes, but they're like an exclusive store, like if you don't work in this building, you don't have access to the store. And that's it essentially. Okay, fine. And also, there's one other thing I wanted to say. These local towers, at the end of the session, when I went to these towers here, you know are different from the smoke stack type towers. And I went to this tower in particular and I perceived an emitter and receiver type device on top of tower, so there's some kind of relay system, communications relay system. Okay. And that's it. Approved For Release 2000/08 o 1. 4 : 0-00788R001600390001-3
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Wr eeeaen se JANA BLAIR, SIRS ES MANE MAIR SRESAE TSE CASI SESIR TR Prd TADS B01" NBL ERIS CRA ASAE ABA A RGR 501 ua Not EE A PRG es ME 2 2d 11 a RPA A LL eRe CAL RE RPE C3 A IRIE EA tii. SESS A ahd A BES Os RN 3 SE “TESSH 2 EEE PERSP SDL le ei all Approved For Release 2688/08/08 : CIA-RD §pajo7s8R001 6003813 AGENT REPORT For use of of this form, see FM 30- 1 HG); AR 38t- 20; the Proponent agency is the Office of the Assistan? Chief of ‘Staff for r Intell gence. r . 2. DATE SUBMITTED EE ELI RIAN SC i US: NO Ni WAR TONNE RAG CSR ARR SE BTW A | Eb. HAME CF SUBJECT OR TINE OF INCIDENT janet rena serrata ancl "3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER HU- 1029/8307/01 SGIA (4. REPORT OF FRDINGS f On 26 July 1983, Source 46-01 was interviewed concerning Fthree areas identified to him as "F", "G", and "H" within a group of unidentified buildings. Source stated substantially fas follows: The top two floors of area "F“ were residence type areas (not further identified). On the floor below this was a "chemical lab" which had an X-ray machine, sinks, stone top f tables, beakers, and bottles of chemicals (not further } identified). On the floors below this there were offices which ("go into the "G" area" (not further identified). These fF offices, or office areas, were large enough for two or three fpeople. The activity in the offices involved "reading and f weiting, analysis type work" (not further identified). This f analysis involved the use of research papers (not further j identified), data bits (not further identified), and information (not further identified) all of which was incomplete (not further identified). Personnel in these | offices were of a military civilian mix. There seemed to be Hmore military than civilian and more women that men. When | questioned concerning equipment in these offices Source stated, ; "Just folders, papers, books, desks, file cabinets, (and) | bookshelves." Source summarized his knowledge of these offices p by stating that they were involved in "some kind of analysis f mixed with administrative work" (not further identified). i The upper two/three floors of area "G" were all the same. , On these floors were moderate sized rooms, five to eight people j; tO a room, with long tables and large stacks of papers | everywhere. These stacks of papers were written copies of | WARNING NOTICE: SENSITIVE CLASSIFIED BY: CDR, INSCOM | INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND DECL: OADR | METHODS INVOLVED NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN { NATIONALS (continued) rh AR het arnt pe ete | 5. WPED NAME AND ORGANIZATION OF SPECIAL AGENT 6. SIGMATURE OF SPECIAL AGENT ki nea ALPE MONA AS TAC tGAA Se aa PRB es D0 aN Sam AR aE MEE aE ae NA A a4 5 REPLACES WD AGO FORM 341, 1 JUN as pa WULS. Government Printing ortiee: | 1982—361 Seenane A ie d Fot Release 2000/08/08 : as (-h inane -3 fon AH
SRE TSR IETS SEE SERS AEST eS SS RN RR BO LES Se, RRS BE STEN Se AEA ef a TF AO EM et BNP Ree iat Approved For Release 2@68708/08 : CIA-R D R001600396001-3 mA eer —NCENT REPORT” i ESOS A ARAN CL NAN RSENS OID For use af this form, see FM 30-17(C); AR 381-20; the proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chief of Stuff for Intalligence. 2. DATE SUBMITTED 1. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE OF INCIDENT 3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER HU-1029/8307/01 eh rn a mene pee A AO Rh PPA TP A S 4, REPORT OF FINDINGS things said (not further identified). Activity in these rooms involved "marking individual papers with blocks, writing notes, transcribing notes, (and) filing papers." All of this activity seemed to have something to do with "identifications and information, people oriented information" (not further identified). Personnel working in these rooms were mostly civilian, but were dressed in some uniform way (not further identified). Personnel were identified as being both male and female. When questioned concerning equipment in these rooms Source stated, "None, just papers, files, (and) folders.® Source also reported the presence of some typewriters which locked like "standard manuals" but had an unidentified direct, remote equipment connection (not further identified). The middle level floors in area "G" were divided into four sections which represented one office (not further identified). In this area there were formally decorated rooms for "directors, controllers" (not further identified). The section divisions were "based on geographics, not, not country, but a special area designation" (not further identified). These sections appeared similar in personnel, activity, and equipment. The personnel were primarily men, both civilian and military, but dressed as civilians. The activity in the area was characterized as being "management, staff, but with control, control type staff" (not further identified). In addition to general office furniture, Source reported that each directorate had “some kind of special typewriter" which was used for “passing something, relaying something." This "special machine" was electronic and very complicated. "Instructions" and "requirements" (not further identified) were sent through it before they left the room. It had special kinds of keyboards (not further identified). It was "adjustable (through the use of) patch cord squares, wires" (not further identified). Source provided a sketch of the lower £Eloor of area "G" (see attached). Below area "G" were storage areas, heating equipment, and rooms full of coal. On the upper floors of area "H" were rooms containing many cases of booklets. These cases were very organized so that everything was in a certain place; just as in a library, all (continued) } 5. TYPED NAME AND ORGANIZATION OF SPECIAL AGENT 6. SIGNATURE OF SPECIAL AGENT SL AEA RAE RE IMT A A ig mH cD ane gh Ae 5. Gavariment Printing Ciffice: 1994—-361-640 0228 P wu. 0 768R001600390001-3 at SOR aN eA Li DA sre BPEL, Sleste R688 /BRG8 : QTM