SG1I SG1I #66: | #66: | | Approved For Release Aoi, Fe For}e-co7ssro01 900630001-3 Okay, because I couldn't make sense, you know, I can see where part of my right side and left side brain function, I thought maybe it was some else who had the material and they questioned him about, you know, all I'm saying is like an American giving the information, that they have this and so for he is trapped into this whole thing. Well, I think that he may have endangered himself by being caught with this material. You know, he was, he is a statesman and was on his way to the embassy to work and had material in his possession that would not be good to be caught by the enemy with. So this may be the dilemma you're picking up on. Yeah, because I get cold chills from all of that. Okay. I tell you that, it clears up something here and really doesn't really pertain to what our question is right now. No, I realize that but was something that was annoying to me, while going through this whole thing, okay. I was trying to figure out what he was trying to tell me. You know, did someone squeal on him and - Approved For Releaseofasleur FeEeRUPo6-c07eeR001 900630001-3 54
SG1I SG1I #66: | | #66: _ Approved For eles foo fophre. Fra Ropes-oo7ssr001 900630001-3 that's how he got caught and this is what, the dilemma is still there, you see the dilemma is still there. He trying to tell me something and he's trying to tell me something, apparently that I must come back here, here meaning, whatever here means, I don't know whether physically here, but here and this thing that there's leak or something, I'm not sure exactly what he's trying to say. And again he might be disoriented too. He might be disoriented too, so you know, you would know more of that so you'll have to make the evaluation on the material that's coming through. Okay, let's try to go beyond his conscious and his dilemma right now, down to an area where he may know much more about his situation than he knows at a conscious level and then if it's possible let's get to a guard and remember that he may be blind folded. There is reason to believe that he is blind folded. So you like the outskirts of Lebanon (Beirut) and he's been moved twice. Would you take the tape recorder aff the paper? He was caught here. Approved For ReleaseSagpprofip Pi ferops6-o07seR001 900630001-3 55
SG1I SG1I SG1I SG1I SG1I #663 | #66! #66: #663 | | Approved For Release adeaydor CO freeforsp-00788R001900630001-3 That's correct. 120. I don't know if he can orient with that-- No, I'm just going to give you numbers, vight. The number I gave you was 125? That's correct. 1 2, let's look. here. I'm trying to orient this closely. These here numbers used for the scale (mumble) Yeah, but I don't know what that means and how it relates but I believe it does someway. And here's 2 5. Um, um. The number 257 .25. What does that mean over here. Approved For Release nto hare d[k.RpP96-00788R001 900630001-3 56
~~ Po Approved For Relea boGaig fy Feiaropes-oo7ssr001 900630001-3 #66: Well we can look up, now remember you said maybe it wasn't 125, but we could look up down here and we have a 125 and what's it say? SG1l | | Is that GH, GADOTA. #66: . It says embassy of France. SG1I | | of France, I'm sorry, of France. #66: 3053. SG1I | | What does 1, we have l means ALBONK on the center bank. #663 Center bank. SG1l | | where would the center bank be? #66: 3053. SG1I || . - He's trying to tell me something in the maps. #66: Think so? SG1I | | I'm almost sure. es 0 ey Approved For Releage ypu: SSxbosogy jug a DP s6- 00788R001900630001-3
Approved For Release Soh bots Fe Froif9s-007a8R001900630001-2 #66: Here's 30, where's 53? SGi1Il 53 is right here. So that's close to where he was staying? 53, I think he was taken right here. #66: Yeah, well that's a bank here. The 125, French Embassy is interesting, a lot of the, I was waiting for you to say he's speaking french to me, because an awful lot of the people have gotten---(end of tape side) SGi1Il . Railroad (mumble) Can I see what that would 25. #66: Okay, that would be 3325. SG1I 3325? (mumble) the railroad tracks. #66: You're saying a railroad, a warehouse. You think the number 25 is of importance? SGll | | Is of importance. Put a line aver there, is something. Approved For Releade 206309) {b2 a FPpP96-00788R001900630001-3 uo Nese 58
Approved For Release @approd(ty FR Frobes.co7ser001900630001-3 #66: That he said he's near a railroad station, he can hear, not hear, but he's near a railroad station. SGi1Il G I'm just going to deal with that. I want to take every number with every combination here, iz We SG1 have the 1 and we took the 2, is slaughterhouse, the number is 3454. #662 Number 2 record. SG1l Obviously that's still the outskirts. That's the dock area, I believe. #66; That's the dock area. SGi1Il ; Could he be mistaken that he feels that he's on the outskirts? #66: Well, again he disoriented and probably blind folded. But there are other reports that he is ina, the word used in the previous report was suburb. SG1I Suburb, yeah that would be okay. I just want to put all that information, because the way I'm getting it Approved For Relea 2G ERE P96-00788R001900630001-3
Approved For neleactbedytih ET svos-oorserootso0es000%.3 is certainly making, the 1, we have the 12, we have the 5, look at the 5. #66; The singular 5? That's a 3446. SG1l | | 46, 34, here. #66: The number 5. SGi1Il What is 5? Water, tower, water tower. #66: Maybe it's a water treatment plant. Just because this doesn't mean (mumble), it doesn't mean it to some other analyst along the way and it tells me 125-- SG1I Yeah, I just want to try and see what it means. #66: I understand, you're trying to figure it out yourself. SG1l | | , I'm not trying to figure out, I trying to find out, what in the world that means, it must mean something to him. or something that he heard, something that, he is incoherent that's for sure, so I have to you know-- 5 a Approved For Release 2403/69) 1.9 4is-ABP96-00788R001900630001-3 Bases 60
3EGREI Approved For Releage-2009709/t0T1A-RDP96-00788R001900630001-3 #66: Have you tried saying back to him, I hear you telling me 125? SG1I ; ; , He seems to, he keeps repeating it, he kept repeating to me 125. #66: Very insistent. SG1l | | Insistent. As if it were a (mumble) as if he was angry, as if he knew my presence was there and that I wasn't, didn't feel that I was taken that seriously or just his initiative to give 125 and to the aspect. Where is 3051? I'm doing something-- SG1I Right here. Could you tell ne,| _| where in Lebanon, that the SG1I two were retrieved? #66: It was in the southern part of Beirut in a . ? residential house, in southern Beirut, that's the only thing I know, southern Beirut, in a residence, in southern Beirut. SG1I | | Now, this man, William Buckley, was taken after the others had been taken. He was taken alone? Approved For Releas 20p3/¢9/) f-dfa-RpPos-00788R001900630001-3 oe 61
Approved For aotnsspbird boos 00788R001900630001-3 #66: That's correct. SG1I | | Okay, I just want to make sure, because I don't want to mistake my-- #663 No, over several months, 6, 8 months they took several people. William Buckley was taken on 16th of March. SG1I The last one. #663 Yes. Yes, the latest one. As though they were picking them up at random or something. SG1I | Yeah, it had to be. It's my contention, I don't know who the other men are, but still (mumble) into my psychic experience, psychic mind, there was some kind of a leak. And I just want to make that for record, okay. #66: Qkay. SG1I | | Would you give me 3248 which is 15? #663 Right here. Approved For Release e 2p jeri qfa-RbPos- -00788R001900630001-3 62