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HU-1086/8407/01
This will
be
a
CENTER
LANE
interview
for
0800
hours
May
1984.
Relax
and
concentrate
now,
relax
and
focus
your
attention
on
,
SG1B
Focus
i
SG1B
and describe your perceptions
to
me.
Got
a picture
of
a
sight
of
row
of
things
dug
in
the
ground
like
flat
tops,
people
inside.
People
on
the
ground
outside.
See
ah....
see
planes,
very
low
after
I
go
inside
there's
ah... some
tanks,
two
tanks ... that
'
s
wrong
they're
armor
type
vehicles
See
a
turbulent
cloud
like
ah
can't
tell
if
it's
moving
or
just
growing,
this
cloud.
Tell
me
about
the
cloud.
It's
billowing
It's
coming
from
a
silver
pod
that
was
dropped,
very
low
and
billowing,
it's
spreading
and
growing
up
from
the
edges.
It's
cooking
like,
I
don't
know.
That
phrase
it's
ah
.barely generated by
a
silver
canister--
Tell
me
about
the
silver
canister.
Urn
foot
and
a
half
in
diameter,
a
little
bit
narrower
at
one
end
then
at
the
other,
ring
seal
about
a
third
back
from
the
narrow
end,
it's
just
producing
this
cloud
out
of
one
end.
Something's
burning
inside
or
something's.
.
. .ah.
. .generating
it.
Go
on
.
Just
keeps
billowing
out,
it's
very
heavy,
cloud's
very
heavy,
it's
not
rising
at
all,
it's
staying
very close
to
the
ground
Getting
a
vision
of... vision
of
people
being
burned,
like
on
the
arms
from
this
cloud,
face
and
arms
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Almost
like
they're
peeling
their
skin
off.
Ah....
....I
just
see
people
running
into
the .... running
and
trying
to
go
into
these
flat
in
ground
places
to
hide.
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Okay.
Tell
me
about
the
silver
thing
from
which
this
cloud
comes.
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It
is
ah
dropped
from
a
very
slow
moving
aircraft,
I
can
see
it
falling
very
slowly
and
hitting
the
ground
and
bouncing
and
skidding
along
the
ground.
From
when
it
was
dropped
it
started
producing
like
this
ah... real
heavy
element
cloud,
it's
like
ah...
very
wet,
very
wet
cloud
that,
it
doesn't
want
to
rise
it
just
hovers
along
the
ground,
spreads,
rapidly
dissipates,
but
it
spreads
as
it
goes.
And
there's
ah. ...it's
like
a
valve
that's
broken
on
the
end
of
the
silver
thing,
this
canister.
Canister's
got
some
shiny
parts
but
it's
predominantly
flat
dark
green
or
flat
black.
Okay.
Let's
try moving
on
the
coordinates
again.
I
don't
have
a
good description
of
the
area
of
the
globe
and
I
think we
should
be
in,
let's
try moving
on
the
coordinates
again
and
see
if
some
new
data
comes
in
instead
of what you have
told me.
SG1B
on
9 April
84.
Area
is
ah....
very
grainy,
rocky,
flat,
scruffy.
It's
like
a
crust
of
the
soil.
There's
ah... shallow
depressions
in
the
ground,
what
appears
to
be
long
ah... long
trench
lines,
they're
areas
dug
lower.
See
some
rocks,
still
a
little
bit
of
scrub
brush.
Over
at
one
side
I
see
ah....
more
rugged
boulders
or
rocks
piled
that
going
up
higher,...
just
very
ah... very
scruffy,
scruffy
type
of
description.
The
only buildings
in
the
area
are,
aside
from
the
flat
things
that
are
dug
into
walls
of
the
ground,
are
ah
see
some
white
of
buildings.
They're
like
earth
that
have
been
packed
what's
left
of
made
from
squares
and
stacked,
slate
or
gray
stone.
I
don't
just
a
few.
rock
roofs,
and
they're
heavy
see
many
of
those,
there's
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#66:
Okay.
I
think
we
are
going
to
have
to
go
deeper
into
the
problem.
I'm
looking
for
a
particular
event,
a
particular
happening
which
may
have
originated
at
this
place
that
you're
describing
now.
And
you
may
have
become
entrapped
by
the
event
itself
and wound
up here
at
this
place
which
may
be
the
origin
of
the
event.
So
I
need
you
to
go
deeper
and
not
get
entrapped
by
it
and
go
to
this
specific coordinate.
Go
to
SG1B
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I've
got
to keep
saying
this,
long
narrow
canister
just
in
slow
motion
going
over,
goes
like
ah.
. .falling
sideways,
hits
the
ground.
Ah... I
want
to
say
explodes,
but
it
doesn't
entirely,
it's
ah....
urn. ...ah
getting
two
different
kinds
of
clouds
now,
I'm
getting
a
...almost
like
a heat
ball.
#66:
Tell
me
about
the heat
ball.
#01:
It's
very,
it's
like
flames
so
hot
you
can't
see
it,
very
intense,
but
it
dissipates
very
rapidly.
I
see
ah....
just
everything
being
enveloped
by
this
ah. ..it's
almost,
oh
hell,
it's
like
fuel
mixture
that's
experimental
or
something.
It
burns
everything
it
touches,
even
though
it
may
not
be
burning,
it's
burning
everything
it
touches.
Got
a
ah
got
a....
single
shock
wave,
ah
now
way
in
the
distance
from
where
this ... canister
object
fell,
there
appears
to
be. ...urn
it's
like
another
piece
or
part,
...but
I
see
it
sitting
upright
and
it's
melting
down
around
the
bottom
and
melting
some
other
metals
with
it.
And
there's
ah
large
section
of
ah
I
don't
know
what
they
call
it,
it's
like
a
metal
platform
type
thing with,
I
keep
getting
impressions
of.,
ah. .any
different kinds
of
angle
iron
intersecting
and
it's
being
ripped,
ripped
like
cardboard.
There's
ah...
....
just
everything
is
being....
lot
of
desolving
action,
I
see
a
lot
of
things
desolving
or
something
#66:
Okay,
now
this,
describe,
you
said
there
was
something
that
was
far
away
and
something
that
was
a part
of
this,
but
it was
a
long ways
away.
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It's
like
clumped
in
different
places,
I
don't
know
how
to
explain
that,
it's
all
in
a
place
but
it's
very
spread
out,
it's
very
open,
flat,
scruffy
area
that's
got
these
flat
in
ground
construction
type
things
there
and
they're
spread way
out
and
there's
indentations
that
look
like
slightly
sunk
roads
going
in certain pattern
interconnecting
these.
Okay,
now
this
thing
that,
this
thing
that
happens,
this
little canister
and
this
thing
that
happens
at
this
place,
is
there
a
event
somewhere
else
associated with
this happening?
Just
a
minute
,
The
only
input
I
can
get
is
the
feel
like
in
the
center
of
this
...ah... what
I
call
an
explosion,
but
it's
not
initially,
it's
ah... like
broken
valves
and
these
mixture
of
gases,
these
billowing
clouds
spreading
and
the
only perception
I
have
is
...
like
being
next
to
these
and
getting
a
extreme
high
pitch
whine
and
the
sound
that
goes
rapidly
beyond
hearing
range
and
causes
everything
to
be
rapidly
excited
or
vibrated,
and
then
things
breaking
and
this
cloud
enveloping
everything
and
then
ah.. like
an
intense
fireball
for
a
second
that's
so
white
hot
that
you
can't
see
it.
And
then
ah....
this
little
canister
kind
of
end
over
ends
the
air
and
landing.
And
then
I
see .. .objects
being
like
blistered
and
people
some
just
sifts
away
that
are
enveloped
with
some
of
this,
they're
being
blistered
all
over,
on
the
skin,
like
it's
very
caustic,
whatever.
Ah... it's
like,
I
don't
know.
Okay
.
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
it
any
better,
it's
like
being
inside
the
field
of
something
and
it's
almost
a
mixture
of
two
events
like,
one
is
....
trying
to
heat
something
up
or
move
something
with
heat
and
the
other
is
trying
to
envelop
it
and
simultaneously
this
causes
this
ah.....
mistake
or
whatever
.
Okay
.
I
don't know how
to describe
it
over
again.
I
have
no
further questions
but
I
would
like
you
to
spend
just
a
moment
and
go
beyond
the
confines
of
my questions
to where
ever
that
takes
you.
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