a Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1 — TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC~26 TIME #66: This will be a remote viewing session for 1400 hours, 3 December 1980. Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate. Focus your attention now solely and completely on ne SCA whose picture I have shown you Focus solely and 1 completely on J Now move backwards through time. { Move backwards through time focusin Move backwards through time to SG1A SG1A +08 #10.5: I got a......it's off a window...1 feel like I'm up several gtories...got some sort of framing around Lb ccccceeesanes I keep seeing this...like cluttered desk... #663 What makes you say cluttered? #10.5: It has things scattered all over the top of it. #66: Describe these things to me... #10.5: Almost like a....a pencil holder....papers, loose papers... +10 Upper left corner.is like a...a basket thing....books, pam- phlets, and......it sits against the wall...some sort of framing thing...like a window lookout or a...something square like a window would be...right over top of it.eeve. I'll work on him for awhile. #66: Twill wait. PAUSE #10.5: Wait, I have ac..¢eeesaie 8 movement. \- ‘Hels; uh...Like he, uh, just walked through a large doorway, like a office building or...-hotel...modern...overcoat...raincoat. Approved For Release 5 -00788R000500240001-1
+17 +19 #66: #105: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: Approved For Release 200 BO=90788R000500240001-1 Renenber ve vant only i sciA PAUSE (Mumbling)..-a desk again... It's only a small rooms. I got him...sitting like very patiently...to the right side of the room......ee. This little room is, uh, like someplace off the hallway. Okay. And you look through the door and you can see the back of his chair. Okay. Now...standing behind him and looking over his shoulder, what is he doing? What is he doing? Well, it's like he's...in a half standing, half seated position. His back is to the back of the desk. He's facing more towards the door, offset to the left of his door. It's like he's leaning against something that is butt high... To the left of the door that I got is this funny rack. some kind of a v-, a floor to ceiling...uh, rack thing, like a, uh, metallic bookcase. Okay, now- And, uh, I'm having this, uh, feeling that he's listening to a set of very funny earphones. Okay, let's expand the time window from cxact |y as SG1A to plus or minus 5 migutes from that time frame, plus or SG1A minus 5 minutes. from i you look at that SG1A broader time window report wha is doing. PAUSE This, ubvsiseeeed get, ‘uh....sitting, leaning over, writing at his table, sort of in a very cramped and scrunched-up way, like someone who sits and writes an awful lot, hunches over the paper....and makes a...some sort of a special writing, or drawing, like he's being very particular, like he's,.-almost draftsman, like he's...got a jeweler's eyepiece. And he's scrunched way over and. the light shines down over his head. And there's some sort of a straight edge and there's... straight lines on the paper. That's one, but then the.... then he like gets up and goes to that Jeaning position. I gee him in that position...Wait.... ©. The: guy I saw before... was different, he's waiting...they said. He's a different man... He was skinnier, and he had a gray suit on. I don't know if it was him or not... Something to do with a, uh, the guy I first saw in here was a...more of a hawk faced guy, narrower face, skinnier...wearing like a gray tweed suit. §6-00788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 2000g03/0) 88R000500240001 -1 #10.5: The way he was sitting I thought it was very funny because he was like waiting. He was. He was like waiting with his hands crossed in his lap. In a leaning position like he was waiting for. someone to come. 66: And the one at the desk? Is ne SGIA #10.5: I think so, but he sits at the desk. And as I'm looking at him he's leaning over the desk. I'm sitting on the desk amongst all his clutter. And that's where I have the...that's where I have him with the, uh, black caps on his ears..-like black caps on his ears. #66: And is this the one who is writing? #10.5: Yeah... #66: Okay. In the precise time frame of him sitting at the desk and writing, look around the desk again as he's sitting there, when he writes, look around the desk again and tell me what else is on the desk...in that specific time frame where he's WLULINGsccceesaveenees #10.5: There's a...(mumbling) looks like a... idneh thick pamphlet. Not a bound book but a pamphlet.... There is something ‘a. by my right here....Which looks like earplug capsules, con~ tainers, earplug containers. Something small, round, cylin- drical like that... They're just sorta haphazardly laid... to. his upper right. And around under where I am is a...some more papers there I can't make out. There're like stacks of things on him desk, it's not: four or five individuals. These are like four or five things that make a inch and a half, two inches high...in places... Uh..smost of- I'm getting this feeling of like...semi-formal pamphlets. Not bound textbooks, but...thick pamphlets of many pages that are final product, but they are not what you would buy in a store, they are what, you would send to your... you know, your review board or your final study board. #66: Okay. Now as he's sitting here writing, being very meticulous about what he's writing and lots of concentration, ask him to show you what. it is he's doing. Ask him to show you what it is he's doing. PAUSE #10.5: I'm, uh, completely the last work on this....a very funny word. First I thought he said tri...as in three, but it's like tricular...tricular or triculateral... #66: Ask him to show you how he does this. Approved For Release 2 00788R000500240001-1
#10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #663 #10.53 #663 Approved For Release 200698 He points to the pamphlet by his right. It's a quarter i-, three eighths inch thick, « It.isyi...blue cardboard, heavy paper... Like he gets it from there. The word was like I take it from here, meaning he gets it from theres. This document has aroundishdesign on the blue cover that.» reminiscent of a, uh...it's roundish then it has another line on it. And it, for some reason it is reminiscent of a...the texture of the thing looked like a...fleetingly a husk of a... peanut. Like it had little marks all over it. Anyway I'm getting an idea that he transcribes specifically important things on...out of this light, light blue bound pamphlet... Ask him what is the purpose of what he's doing? Ask him to tell you what is the purpose of what he's doingsrsecccues I got a, uh...ah, my friend, that is very difficult to say. He is sending this information on somewhere, I know. That came from the last question too... This...process is extremely important. It's a process that he is concerned with, not a thing, but a process. I understand. What is the...ask him what is the...tool most important to this process. Ask him what is the tool most important to this process... I had a, uh...ask him to show me the tool... Had the impres- sion it's inside of a, uh...plunging valve, uh, black cast steel or some such, and it's some sort of a movable part in it.. You can imagine a short, squat, very stubby cast metal hypdermic of considerable weight. The thing thats plunges in and out is lighter polished bra-, uh...-polished metal of some kind, like it's a valve or a special pump action. ‘Some sort of a plunging action on the one end, What's it's shape, it's general shape?... Like a short, squat hypodermic needle. All right. But larger. Are you saying it's cylindrical as opposed to pyramidal or cubic? Yes, and it's...got two things that stick out of the top and the bottom. Okay. At one end. The other end is a little bit tapered. Okay. I understand this object. Now, I want to know about -00788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 2000/08/07. CIA-BE 0788R000500240001-1 #66: the thing that this object fits into. i +40 #10.5: All right, let me focus again, I'm out. Let me get back down — and sit on his ashtray or whatever it is here.seccesesers Well, this is a key control in a process factor...factor. It's a key control factor in the process. #66: Yes, I understand that. And we want toa know- #10.5: I know, I'm working. #66: ‘Okay. PAUSE #10.5: I'm getting it as being a part of a large massive engine of some sort...not engine engine, but I mean the machine complexity of some sort that is here in this facility. It is long and black...and massive, like a large transformer is. Huge, huge transformer, 20 feet high and I mean maybe 12-15 feet high, maybe 24 feet long. The...it has generally cylindrical shape tube, but it is not hollow or plunging or anything, it is packed with processing aspects and components. But the key thing that identifies this thing is some sort of a upsweeping rectangular on the end of it, like it's bulk is two different levels. It has one lower right hand level at 12 or 15 feet, but the left hand level is bigger and it comes out and up in a rec-, more rectangular feeling. #663 All right, I have- #10.5: It's on somewhere else, let me go back to him..cerceress #66: We are, uh, out of tape time now, and I'm concerned about the accuracy of your drawings as they now exist. You have any final comments before closing? #10.5: No. #66: Okay. Let's then turn to drawing as accurately as possible those things that you have at this time. Okay, . go ahead. #10.5: Okay, um, sketch one here I have | ee here at SGI1/ the desk. He's bending over very methodically transcribing something. Uh, he's located in a very small cluttered office, scientist o~, scientific office type of place. And I had the impressions that what he was transcribing had to do with the document that's on his, by his right elbow which is blue and has a funny circle on the top of it. Okay, um... #66: You said things like, talked about a draftsman and paying ey attention to what he was doing, and that what he was doing took some mental effort. Approved For Release 2009, B07 CIA -00788R000500240001-1
( Approved For Release 2000/98/07 iA DE s6.00788R000500240001-1 #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #105: Approved For Release 20@7qgre = erudely printed, like almost mimeographed on- instead of really offset printing. You know, it wasn't a formal docu~ ment, it was like a mimeographed document. Okay.scace It had the quality of the little programs that they give out in elementary school when you .go to your kids schools PTA meeting, you know, it's all flaky and speckling and you can read the words but it's not really cool. Gets the job done but that's about it. All right. Now we come to another confusing portion of the session. Very beginning of} the session, somewhere in the beginning of the session I |had this man standing in the room. He was standing, leaning with his bottom up against like the corner of a_desk, but not MJ 9 B8ecause_1 was A looking ot what |later turned out to be mer vm sala desk, from the corner, and |this guy showed up right in. my way. I couldn't see. I-had to sorta like peek around him. And I thought that like it jwas somebody that came into this room that EEE occupied |to visit and I just happened to SG1A catch him coming in to visit. Then al-, that was very fleet- ing, and it was a very distinct intrusion in the area, it was very = bam! right in front |of my face. And I had to like peek around him. Now...-then, later on I, I mani it was when you moved me and you let me drift a little bit wider in a time bracket, I had the feeling. that was. standing over leaning with his SGIA bottom against this same desk with his headphones on and that the headphone wire went down into the bottom of the bookshelf like thing that I was, that was there in a corner by the door, And at that point, I think|that that was valid imagery. I think when you let me drift in time, or when you let me expand my time window- I opened your time window by plus or minus five minutes. Yeah, that that is an action that he performs in here, in this room during this time|window. Maybe not the specific beginning one but later on, But I don't know where the heck the other guy came from. The other person that was not p SG1A The other person that- when I saw EE over there doing SGI1/ the, sitting in a similar,|or leaning in a similar posture with his earphones an, that’s when I- you'll hear me on the tape- that's when I said "Wait a minute. The guy I saw there — first isn't the same one.") The other fellow was thinner, had like a widow's peak, severe widow's peak, had deeply dark hair, thin in face, uh, wearing like a light tan, gray tan tweed suit. That was. somewhat sinister in feeling. I had the 6-00788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 2000/Q3; #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #10.5: #66: #105: Approved For Release 2000/6 &-RDRO6-00788R000500240001-1 feeling like he was, uh, th investigator. You know, like the guy that catches the spy type thing. The guy who walks in of f the street and goes into the spy's room and waits for the spy to return and catches the spy by surprise type of a situation. It's sort of Gestapo like,.you know, lurking, ominous presence lurking right there, very self-assured and- Okay. -invest-, queer-, investigatory, queerying, or investigating. All right. So then, uh, in the. widened time vindov scia was over there. I finally resolved the problem that there was this other guy there that maybe had come and visited and left. I never saw the two of them together, by the way. You know, another thought was that well, maybe they were run- ning a personal meeting or something. And, uh, the only other thing I have to add is that during the other parts of the session when BM vas. sitting at the table drafting or SG1A whatever he was doing, he- at that time 1 felt he also was wearing earphones, and they're the old-fash-, older-fashioned ‘kind with black cups on the ears and they have the... they have the metal rods that stick up out of the earphone part so you can adjust the length on the earphones. But I did not see an electrical cord on them. I didn't see that the cord ran back behind him back into this bookshelf like he was listening to the stereo or anything. It was like they were cordless. And for a fleeting analytical moment somewhere in the session when I realized that I couldn't see a cord, I had the rememberance, a very quick flashback to early child- hood in playing with crystal sets, these little...they used to be about $2.98, little, when I was a kid, little crystal sets. They were designed like a little rocket ship. All you had to do was plug 'em on to a ground and you'd get four of your favorite AM stations. Okay. You didn't really need an exterior power source or any thing like that. Sorta had this idea of self-containment, possibly of crystal...crystal run rig. That's all I. have. Okay. Um, I'd like you to return now to your thoughts of drawing number one here. Uh, and now apart from this session you will recall that you have visited previously, and y ; : ; . ; SGIA in previous sessions you mentioned a calculator like device SGI1A that MBM is, uh, you identified as being part of — SG1 behavior. And I want.to ask you now in addressing his act- ivity in this room at his desk and doing his writing and so forth, does this feeling about a calculator play a part in what hé does here in this room? No. He's not doin! anything with that calculator type of thing. There's only one thing on his desk which vaguely res- embles it, and that is a...little square box that, square box §.)0788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 2000/0869 i 00240001-1 #10.5: that's on his upper right next to his, on the sketch, next to his, uh, light, his desk lamp idea. But that box, I looked at that box and the only thing I got out of that box was that it was like a paper slip holder, you know, like you do for your calls and notes and stuff like that. When I looked-, I didn't look at it asking if it was the calculator 'cause of course I didn't realize you were after that at the time. #66: Okay. #10.5: Had no idea that you would have been interested in that. The calculator was nowhere around, so what I- essentially I'm saying this so that people who look at that sketch don't read into that little box drawn up there as being a calculator. 'Cause when I looked at that box it was plain and simple ~ a slip of paper holder, a box for messages and stuff, little plastic thing or somethin’. #663 Okay. #10.5: No, did not get any feeling of a technical type of apparatus at all. ; #66: All right. Good. Anything then that you have to add? #10.5: No. #66: . Okay, fine. #10.5: That's it. 10 Approved For Release 2000Q8U0 Zi ClAsRiue96 -00788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 20ouosig? : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1 t id 12 * é cu RON gett oft Suet dow atl wm _ 8" 9 oe? Su pre (ls gym n S “see Tove Sah.
Approved For Release 2000/08/47 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1 | Approved wens CIA-RDP96-0G9ABRP 98500240001 -1 (4)
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1
Approved For Release 2000/ 8/07 a& P96-00788R000500240001 -1 TARGET CUING INFORMATION REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-26 1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the remote viewer was shown the attached picture and told that the. individual was identified as MM The SGA viewer was told that he would be focusing on events of past time during the session and that intense concentration on discipline would be required. 2. (S/NOFRN window of activity of ceptions he reported whic the session the viewer was told to focus on the time and report the SG1A The viewer was asked to elaborate on those per- SGIA seemed relevant to the interviewer. 3. (S/NOFORN): This remote viewer has worked this target before and as such ‘was familiar with the general situation prior to the session. The viewer did not, however, know what to expect in the specific time window provided. The interviewer had been briefed on what might be expected during the time win- dow and attempted to elicit information relevant to Pe -< of a com- SGI1A puter or calculator. NOT RELEASABLE TP FORETG N-NATIONALS Sok bathe Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1
SG1A Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500240001-1