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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION DC-65
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1.
(S/NOFORN)
This report documents
a remote viewing session conducted
in
compliance with
a request for information on an area of intelligence interest.
The viewer previously worked
this target;
see session D-86.
2.
(S/NOFORN)
The remote viewer's impressions
of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data,
and as such,
have not been subjected
to any
intermediate analysis,
evaluation
or collation.
Interpretation and use
of
the information provided
is the responsibility
of the requestor.
3.
(S/NOFORN)
The protocol used for
this session
is detailed in
the document
Grill Flame Protocol,
AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol
(S),
undated.
4.
(S/NOFORN)
Following is
a transcript
of
the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session.
At TAB A are drawings made by
the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site.
At TAB B
is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer
.
NOT
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TRANSCRIPT
REMOTE V IEWING
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SESSION DC-65
TIME
#66:
This will be
a remote viewing session for 0900 hours,
1500 January
1981.
This
is
a,
uh,
pre-mission briefing.
Today
I will be pro-
viding you with geographic coordinates
of
a point
on
the
earth that you have been
to before and have described
accurately.
We are now asking you
to return
to the same
place and answer
a few direct questions.
So at the beginning
of the session
I will
be providing you
the geographic
coordinates.
Now
I
am going
to show you
a couple
of pictures of things
that might be
at
the target location,
and
of course your
first question will be
to determine are these things
at
the
location.
Now you
have accurately described
the location
before,
but you didn't say whether these things were
there
SGI A
So what we want
to do
is when
I
give you
the coordinates,
want
you
to go to the area that you went
to before with these
coordinates and
look around and see whether
or not
these
antennas are there
or not
#46:
Hm...
All
right.
#66:
Okay.
You've seen these pictures now.
#46:
Yeah,
I remember seeing.
#66:
And
I will
be providing you the coordinates then
at the
start
of the session.
Do you have any
questions at all?
#46:
No.
#66:
Okay,
fine.
I'll
see you
in
a few minutes then when
the
session begins.
#46:
So,
I
can either describe one
of the three,
or two
of the
three
or three
of the three.
You want-
#66:
I
don't-
I
don't
know-
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#66 :
dbMi
You
just want me to physically describe-
Yes,
physically describe what you
see.
You may
say,
oh,
it's
just like this
or-
SG1A
#46:
#66 :
Yeah.
.
#46:
Yeah.
#66:
So we are,
of course,
depending
on
you
to
tell us which kind.
#46:
Yeah.
I was trying to differentiate between these two...
#66:
Well,
you may
see
these pictures afterwards,
if you
like.
Just physically describe what you
see there,
but these
I
m
showing you
ahead of time-
#46:
Yeah.
#66:
-to
say that you might
or you might not find these at the
target.
Then
I will have
some specific questions about
the
target as well.
Okay.
Any other questions?
#46:
No.
Relax and concentrate
now.
Relax and concentrate solely and
completely
on
the
target,
solely
and completely,
clearly
in
perfect focus.
Focus now
in present
time at the target and
and describe your perceptions
to
me.
PAUSE
#46:
I,
I
gotta get here,
the,
uh,
uh...the overview
of,
uh....
of the area when you called the coordinate.
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#66:
Describe
it
to me.
#46:
Sort
of a..... the,
uh,
a rise
or
a hill
in
the upper portion
of the g rid .
.
. and
of... and of the hill
in
the,
uh,
left center
portion,
left
lower portion
of
the
grid.
And
in between
that
is all
trees and vegetation,
to the right
of
the box from
top to left
in
a "U"
type configuration.
Almost appears to
be
a ribbon
of water and
then beyond
to the right,
more
vegetation ....
Now when you
said focus
there
I
landed
on
the,
on the beach...
sandy beach.. .next
to the water and opposite the water
is
a
very.
. .dense,
almost jungle atmosphere there. ... (mumbling)
to
the left.
+10
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PAUSE
#66:
And now describe more specifically
the target at the coor-
dinate.
#46:
#66
:
#46:
#66:
(Mumblinq)
.
.
.
I've
got
to
go
on
from where
I,
from wherever.
This,
uh....it's round
It's, uh....it's inland
(mumbling)
about
a half mile
or mile
and what
I
really
see
is... ........it's
a circular type antenna,
it s
like
one of these,
uh,
old fashioned, .. .electric heaters
or
something
in
the center and the spokes going out... is the
picture
that
stays,
trying
to... define
it.
No,
that's,
that’s.
. .that would be
the uppermost one...
And underneath
that,
then you have
a bunch
of
spokes
going
out... in every which direction
Damn.
There's
something about
a.
. .rectangular plate with white metal with
holes
in
it ...
.
It's important
for me
to know your relative position
of
observation
as you describe
this...
I'm between
those two hills about
a mile within
the shoreline
from- what
the hell
is that- east
to west....
On your grid
it would be about
3/4 of the way
to
the right from west
to east and
if you
came down about halfway
you could put
a
dot there and that's where
I
am.
And as you describe what you
say
SG1A
#46:
Yeah.
#66:
-what is your position
of observation
as you-
#46:
It's weird because it's
just
going up
on
a
tall pole. ...and
there's just
those three
things
I've described with
it...
were attached
to the pole.
So
I'm kinda looking up at
it,
really
.
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#66
:
You perceive yourself
to be looking up at the
pole.
R bj iew
for me the
three things you've
said.
#46:
The top one that looks like
a... like
an
old,
uh,
electric
heater,
you
know,
it's
got
a.. .it's circular shaped.
It's
got a center piece and it's got spokes growing
out.
#66:
Describe
the number
of
spokes.
#46:
Oh,
god.
#66
:
#46:
+16
#66
:
+18
#46:
#66
:
#46:
#66 :
PAUSE
It's either
or
12.
Between
10 and
12,
I
keep losing track.
All right...
Continue with your review of the three items...
And below that one... this
is with the
one that,
uh......
with
the,
uh,
spokes going out and
various directions
I
think
the,
uh...the longest spokes
(mumbling) .. .at about
90 degrees from the
core,
about. ..2
feet.
But
they,
they're
not all
2 feet because as they come close
to
the center
of
the spokes they're smaller.
If you
look
at
it
on
a plane
it looks somewhat rectangular
Move your position
of observation
to 100 feet directly over,
directly over this and describe for
me.
There's big bows
there.
. .right down
to the ground,
and there's
the... what would look
like a... like a... like
a shed
or some-
thing,
it seems
to be the principal thing
Now as you move above the target,
move above this that you've
been describing-
Yeah,
it's from up looking down
(mumbling).
Are there other similar configurations
in the area?
Or
is
this one
the sole configuration
in
the area?
#46:
As soon
as you said that there were... there were like
two
little miniature
towers
that shoulda been placed
on,
right
on the border
of your
grid,
uh,
on both hills
north and
south.
#66:
Review
this for me again.
#46:
Well,
as soon as you mentioned that there was
a very quick
impression
like
of miniature towers that fit
in within
the
perspective
of the overview
of
the grid,
which located...
north and south on those two hills.
I was trying right after
you ....
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#66:
What
is
it
you experience that makes you
say-
#46:
Well,
he stands
out,
there should be...
#66:
And what
is your experience that causes you to say that
they
should be all military?
#46:
Because there's
a couple guys
in fatigues.
#66:
Okay.
Tell me about these
guys
in
fatigues.
What
kind
of
uniforms are they?
#46:
Like jungle fatigues and there's something about
a red beret
with
a black border
and this other guy
is some kind
of
technician...
He's
a short guy,
about
5'
4",
small
build,
mustache...
I got the impression he's Spanish origin,
he
speaks Spanish rather well.
#66:
Tell me the experience that
you have that makes you
say he's
Spanish origin.
He speaks-
#46:
Just. .. (mumbling) .. .the whole thing
has got that flavor.
He's
just.
. .Latin,
very black,
dark,
wavy
hair,
receding
at
the temples,
with
a mustache.
#66:
Am
I understanding
you to say that his physical appearance
looks Latin?
#46:
No,
but there's
a,
there's
a,
the whole atmosphere
is just
Spanish something.
#66:
All right.
#46:
Maybe Cuban.
#66:
Now,
turning
your attention now to the gestalt
of the area-
#46 :
Yeah .
.
#66:
The people-
#46:
Huh?
#66:
The people,
this
shed,
the antennas-
#46:
Yeah.
+29
#66:
Describe their mission to me.
Ask yourself as
you perceive
the target
area,
the shed,
the people,
the antennas.
Move
to that point and describe
for me the mission of the people
in the
shed.
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#46:
Well,
two military strictly maintenance people...
The
civilian
is
a tech person.
Something about handling
and
manipulating that thing. .. .about direction.
. .1
can't pin-
point
it
Finding something about
direction.
. .maybe
guidance,
I
don't
know,
I... it
just has to
do with directions
and azimuths.
#66:
Okay.
Explain-
it might
help,
now- explain
for me the exper-
ience you
have that causes you to-
#46:
Cause his main function
is the,
is
just that,
winding through
his technical know-how.
. .that apparatus outside,
which has
something
to do with alignment and direction.
#66:
All
right.
That's good.
That's
very good.
Let
us examine
the problem from
a different perspective now....
You have
accessed and described the target here from the perspective
of the people there.
Ask yourself now,
when
he
is successful
in doing what he
does,
what
does
he report
to his superiors?
Ask yourself,
what does he report to his superiors?
#46:
Oh,
this
is
tough to express.
What
he essentially reports
is that
it
can be
done this way... and
it has something to do
with.
.
.
There's something
I wanted to say
(mumbling)...
Has some-
thing to do with relay and. .. (mumbling)
where he kinda
takes over where somebody left off,
or he initiates something
that somebody else takes over from some other
side.
He
spends his entire time doing these things.
That's the best
I
can describe
it.
#66:
All right.
You
have addressed the question what does
he
report to his superiors?
#46:
Yeah,
that
it can be done this way
is successful
in doing this.
#66:
Okay.
#46:
Or
that
he was picking up
from somebody else
at
a given
point
.
#66:
Now let's turn and rephrase the question.
For this you will
have to broaden your horizons and deal very,
very precisely
with the problem at hand.
Ask yourself now what
is it his
superiors want to know?
#46:
His superiors.
. .like to know more.
. .realize that
if
he
can,
if he
is successful under these circumstances.
. .then he can
be successful ... in
reality.
He
can be successful
in doing what
he's doing,
it
can be used to be successful .. .what they're
trying
to achieve...
It
has to
do with the
guidance
system...
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#66:
And what
is
it they want to guide?
#46:
I
don't
know.
#66:
I
didn't understand you
#46:
I
said
I
don't
know.
#66:
Okay
Return your perspective now to the apparatus
itself that
you
found
at the target,
outside looking now
at
the
apparatus,
back away
from
it
so
that
you may
see
it
in
it's entirety and that
you aren't
so close that you're con-
fused
by
it,
so that you may see
it
in
it's entirety,
clearly,
in perfect focus,
every element
of
it...
Remember.
#46:
All right.
#66:
I
have no further questions about the target.
If there's
anything you'd like to
say before leaving the target
area,
please
do
so now
#46:
No
I,
I'm all through.
#66:
Okay.
You have no further comments?
#46:
No.
#66:
Return your focus now
to me here
in the
room.
Move your arms,
move your
legs,
take
a few deep breaths,
and prepare
to draw
that which you have perceived.
#46:
Okay,
uh....this
is the,
the,
uh,
sketch #1
is
a representa-
tion
of the
grid,
uh,
after you described the target
area.
And what comes up
is
a scenario.
What
I
had was
a
grid with
a... hill #1 and
2,
located north and south respectively.
Not
very high hills,
nothing to be called mountains,
but they're
definitely something above ground,
maybe
30,
feet,
natural,
man-made,
I
mean natural hills,
with
a great deal
of vege-
tation,
uh,
and heavy foliage that would
be predominant
in
a
very warm,
humid type atmosphere.
And to the right
of the grid was
a ribbon which
I perceived
as being water.
And to the right
of that more vegetation and
flat
land.
Where
I ended up was right next to the water
on
the
sand,
uh,
looking towards the
"X",
okay,
from east
to west-
#66:
Okay.
#46:
And that's where
I ended up.
So much for
sketch
1,
The antenna site that
I,
uh,
eventually tried to pinpoint
within this scenario appeared
to be about
a mile,
a mile and
a half inland,
into the
jungle
from the water's edge.
Okay?
#46:
And
it's marked by an
"X".
#66:
Then when
I asked you
to focus more closely
on
the target
from this overview perspective then you got
down
to what?
#46:
Yeah,
yeah,
then
the,
uh,
the picture of the,
uh,
circular
parabolic antenna
type,
which was,
uh,
presented
to me like
an
old,
uh,
an old fashioned electric heater that
I've seen
in the olden times.
And,
uh,
it was,
uh,
circular parabolic
with spokes.
And
I tried to count
'em but
I
kept messing up.
And
I
think there are about
10,
or
12 spokes
that meet
to the center
in
a hub there.
Uh.
. .what more
can
I
add
on the thing?
It
did have
a back
to
it,
The spokes were somewhat elevated from the edge
of,
uh,
the antenna and going towards the center.
Now that may
be the heater syndrome,
I
don't
know.
#66:
Okay.
#46:
Okay?
And,
after
I
focused
on that,
this was attached
to
a
pole,
I
followed the pole down about
or
4 feet
down,
maybe
more,
maybe 6...
Where's this,
another type antenna which
I
can only define as being
a porcupine type antenna which
I've
so labeled.
The,
uh,
length of the principle elements appeared to be
about
feet wide.
And
as,
if you looked at
it
on
a plain
it
looked rectangular.
But there was,
there was,
uh,
it was not
a rectangular apparatus.
The elements shot
in various direc-
tions,
uh,
with the lengths
of the spokes diminishing
as
they
approach the center.
#66:
Which gives
it the appearance
of
a rectangle,
as seen from
a flat plain.
#46:
Yeah,
yeah.
From
a flat plain,
okay.
And after
I
concentrated
on
that
for
a while
I went farther below and found
this smal-
ler type apparatus,
which could be an antenna which
I
don
t
recognize,
but
it resembled and outdoor horn
or
a speaker,
which
I've
so labeled.
And the fascinating thing about that
one,
or what caught my
attention was
a
very,
uh,
silvery reflective sheet,
which,
uh,
which was,
uh,
located... at the very edge
of the speaker
or facing the speaker.
It was,
uh,
it was placed right
there.
In
other words
it wasn't receded,
it was,
it was flat with
the,
with the outer edge
of the
so called bull
horn.
And,
uh,
with
an
added feature that
this silvery type of material has sev-
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in
it.
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#66:
All
right,
you
feel that-
#46:
Almost looked like
a cheesecake.
#66:
Were they purposeful?
#46:
Yeah,
purpose.
#66:
It was,
you
feel that
it was designed like that?
#46:
Yes,
it was designed like
that.
#66
:
Okay
.
#46:
Definitely.
#66:
Okay.
Now
let my
try
to clear up
one point
here.
#46:
Go ahead.
#66:
As you were describing this,
of course,
I was unable to per-
ceive your description and
I became somewhat confused as
to
what you were talking about here.
This that you've drawn
does not resemble the antennas that
I
showed you before
the
session .
.
.
#46 :
No
.
#66:
And,
uh,
I
had,
I asked you are there any more
of these,
the
antennas here,
and you
said well,
yeah,
there's these three.
And
I didn't understand that you were talking about three
things
on the same pole.
#46:
Yeah.
#66:
So what you
find
then
is
this pole apparatus
with these
three what we might call elements
on
the pole.
#46:
Yeah.
#66:
Did you see anything like the pictures that
I
showed you?
#46:
No.
#66:
Okay.
#46:
My attention was immediately
on
this and
it would not leave
it.
And
I
realized that
it did not resemble what you had
showed me
initially.
And
I
don't
remember seeing those,
but
that's beside
the point.
So
I
didn't
fight
it,
I
just
let
it
come,
and
I
figured,
uh,
I'll describe what
I
see.
#66:
Okay,
now-
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