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REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION XIII
TIME
#28:
Okay.
This will be
a remote viewing session.
(Edited for security.)
PAUSE
#28:
Okay,
#6.5 and #31
are
at
the target
location.
They are observing the target.
Look
at
the
target with
them.
(Edited for security.)
PAUSE
#1:
I'm not getting anything very clear yet.
Starting to
get
flashes
of
light.
#28:
All you have
to
do
is describe the area to me.
Let
it
focus;
let
it
come by
itself;
describe
the area to me.
#1:
I
see
a
.
.
.
like
a
.
.
.
its
like
a cover.
.
.
like
to my
front.
.
.
and over my head
.
.
#28
:
Okay
.
#1:
And its
long.
.
.
kind of goes
away.
.
.
and
kind of narrows
at
the
far
end.
It only appears
to be supported by
.
.
.
the right
side and not
by
the
left.
Its ...
a ...
I
don't.
.
.
its
not
fastened to anything.
Its just supported
over my head.
#28:
Okay.
#1:
Its got
a curve
to the bottom side.
.
.
.
where
the support meets the overhead.
.
.
the
cover
part
.
#28:
Okay.
#1:
There
is
not,
I
don’t
sense
any
.
.
.
any real
complexity
to that
curve.
Its just
a nice smooth
flowing curve.
#28:
Describe
the color
to me.
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Yellow.
Definitely
a gold or yellow.
.
.
flecks
of brown.
.
.
I
got
the sensation that
its metal.
.
.
but
its
not
all metal;
but
I
get
this sensa-
tion that
its metal,
primarily metal.
It
has
a
very simple edge
to
it.
Ah.
.
.
Let's
see.
I'm having trouble seeing anything
to the right
of
it.
As
if
I'm standing on the
end;
on
a
corner looking down,
idling through
it.
Under
it.
There's what appears
to be asphalt
to my
left.
But there doesn't appear to be much of
a sidewalk
or whatever
is under this
cover.
It might
not
even be
a sidewalk.
I
don't have the feeling
that
its.
.
.
that
its.
.
.
that
solid.
#28:
Okay.
#1:
There
is
a
.
.
.
there's.
.
.
what.
.
.
appears
to be.
.
.
Oh,
God,
this
is hard to describe.
There appears to be
a
.
.
.
a
.
.
.
very.
.
.
a
.
.
.
there's
like entrance-ways
on the right
hand
side.
Behind the ...
I know before,
I
said
there was nothing fastened to
it,
but
there's
like
.
.
a
.
.
entrances to doors that
are back away
from the cover.
To the extreme right.
And they
get smaller
as they progressively
fall
away.
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And now
I ...
I
lost
that
.
.
.
There's nothing
there right
now.
.
.
I
don't.
.
.1
don't
see.
.
.
I.
•
•
I'm looking
down
a wall
now;
its
on my
left
side.
Its
to my
front
left and there's windows;
what appear to be
windows or openings that
are side by
side,
not
very high,
but
in the extreme high portion of what
appears
to be the wall
.
Going down my
left
and
a
funny design to the front
edge of
that wall up
over the windows.
And where
it
fades
away to the
front of me
I
sense that what
I was
looking
at
before
is fastened
to
it.
But
I
.
.
.
its not
very clear
how.
Its
a very tall object.
And
its
right next
to me
on my
left.
Very
tall.
Its not
round;
its
got
an angular shape to
it.
Its
not
very
thick.
Not
very thick
at
the base.
But
its
very high.
Ah.
.
.
I'm standing
in
a
.
.
.
stand-
ing
in
a street.
Its definitely asphalt
I'm
standing on but
is not.
.
.
its
not
a regular road.
And,
its not
a parking area.
Its definitely
an
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open asphalt
area and its not
used.
.
.
generally,
by
cars.
.
.
or vehicles.
I
sense there's
a wall
on my right
also,
but
a very low wall.
.
.
And
I
feel as
if
it
.
.
.
if
I were
to step over
it,
I would
fall.
That
it
drops down lower than
the height
at which
I'm
standing
.
I'm getting
a lot of clutter right
now.
Trying
to.
.
.
trying to visualize through
it
.
.
.
I
see
curtains,
green curtains.
Or
a curtain-like
device that's sort
of
a wavy type wall
in
front
of me.
And I'm seeing that ...
It
does not
appear to be anything I'm looking through to
see
that.
Try to put too much
(not
audible).
Now there appears
to be
a small
row of green
undefineable shapes directly
in front
of
that
running left
to right
or right
to
left.
However,
you want
to look
at
it.
Not very
high.
Knee high.
#28:
You're doing very well.
PAUSE
#1:
There's
a.
.
.
behind the tall object,
I previously
described,
there's
a
.
.
an overhang.
And the
supports
to the overhang are angled out.
They are
not straight up and down.
They are angled out.
PAUSE
#1:
Ah.
.
.
I keep ...
I keep wanting
to
say
this
is
a restaurant,
but
I
don't want
to analyze
it.
I
got
the
feeling its used for more than just
that.
Definitely,
I
have the sensation of
food cooking
though.
You know,
not your supper- type meal.
But
considerable amount of food cooking.
I
also
get.
.
.
a dark.
.
.
although multi-colored brick
pattern but
its only
in the lower portion of
the
.
.
.lower portion of the entrance-ways or the
things that
I described as being under that
over-
hang.
.
.
Its hard to visualize the upper edge of
the ...
of the tall object.
.
.
but
it appears
to have
a
.
.
.oh.
.
what resembles
a part
of
a
bolt of lightening only
in
a very curved
form.
Its
thick
at one end and thin
at
the other.
.
.
It
tapers
away.
#28:
Are you outside or
inside?
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#1:
I'm outside.
Before
I
think
I was partially
inside.
I
felt
like
I was somewhere inbetween
inside and outside.
Inside.
.
.
I
get the
sensation of
a long counter
,
but
its not
a food
counter and that's what's confusing me.
I have
a tremendous
impression of food cooking but there
s
no
food counter
.
There
is
a long counter ....
The walls
are wood on one side
and plaster on
the
other side of the room.
The carpet
is
a.
.
.a
tan.
.
.
light
color.
#28:
Okay.
#1:
I
get
the sensation that
it
is carpet.
Definitely
carpet.
.
.Ah.
.
.
PAUSE
#28:
Do you see
any people?
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#1:
I
see one.
.
.
man.
Its definitely
a man.
He
s
behind the counter.
#28:
Describe him to me.
#1:
to 40 years of
age.
Hairline starting
to
recede.
Some gray or maybe not
gray,
wait
a minute,
light
brown hair,
no
gray.
Streaks of
light colored hair
in the brown hair.
He's wearing
a
.
.
.
he's wear-
ing
a suit.
Blue,
light blue shirt.
Ah.
#28:
Describe his activities.
#1:
His
activity.
He's writing.
Behind the counter,
there's
a lower counter and he's writing.
He's
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writing on
a predesigned
form.
#6.5 and #31,
are
right
now,
directly
to the
front entrance-way
of
where that
counter
is.
To the
left
front.
They
probably
can't
see the man from where they
are
at
.
.
.
I'm back outside
again.
I
get
a
.
.
.
the
.
.
also on the overhang behind the tall object
.
.
.
I
get the impression that
the overhang
is
slanted.
Like
a slanted roof.
Although
I
don't
.
.
.sense any shingles or anything.
But
its just
a slanted roof.
.
.
Ah.
.
.
He's writing on
a pre-
printed
form.
And he's
not writing very much on
a
pre-printed form.
.
.
Just checking blocks
and
things.
Ah
.
.
.
.
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#28:
Let yourself
go back outside
the
area.
You have
been very close
to the area now.
I want you to
move back away
from the area.
Wherever you're
comfortable
away.
Either
at street
level.
.
.
or up above
at
an angle.
.
.
Move back away
from
it
.
.
.
Let
it
fall
into perspective.
Back away
from
it.
Describe
to me the area
in total.
Ah.
.
.
The building stands.
.
.
I'm about
the
height of the tall object.
.
.
I'm about
300
meters back.
.
.ah,
approximately
feet off
the ground.
I'm looking diagonally
across
the
building.
.
.
on the
left
is
a fast-food which
would be.
.
.
70 meters
from the
front entrance-
way
to the object.
The building.
#1
:
And the fast-food
is red and white.
I
don't
know what kind
it
is.
I
get.
.
I
sense some-
thing like
a chicken place,
but
I
don't
know.
#28:
Just describe what you see.
#1
:
Yeah.
Ah.
.
.
directly
to the front
of both of
those buildings
is
a small.
.
.
access way but
not wide enough for two
cars.
.
.
I
sense
a very
high curb there.
I
think that might be the wall
that
I described earlier.
That
if
I
slipped off
that
I would
fall.
I
sense that
there
is
a very
high curb
there.
I
see
no telephone
lines.
To
the right
I
see.
.
.
to the right
I
see
a large
block type building.
.
.
Just
very plain
and
general
in appearance.
Windoes
all the way down
one
side.
The side facing the road.
Entrance
way
is
in the corner of
the building.
It
has
a
flat
roof.
Directly beneath me
is ...
is
the
main
road.
Fairly heavy
traffic.
I
don't.
.
.
I
sense
a
light,
signal
light or something to my
rear
left.
.
.
But
I
don't.
.
.
Across.
.
.
at
the corner of the signal
light,
the
fast
food is
on one corner and diagonally
across,
under the
signal
light
is
a gas
station.
Blue and white
gas station.
I'm going to
go straight
up.
.
.
the roof
is
an angular roof on the building that
I was originally looking
at but
it was.
.
.
its
not
a steep angular
roof.
20 degree angle maybe.
Three vents down the center.
A very
light color-
ed roof. ...
I
sense there's
an alley that
goes
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the right.
.
.
side
of this building.
As
I'm looking from a
.
.
.
side vision of
street.
I
don't
think the entrance-way
is
on
the main street.
Its off
to
the
left
facing
from the main street.
As
is
the parking area
.
.
.
Ah.
.
.
There's
a round,
circular object
.
.
.
.
I’m back.
.
.
Having trouble
finding
where
I'm
at
now.
.
.
There's
a.
. .a row of
green.
.
.
its
a ...
I better
leave that
for
now,
I
can't
figure where
I'm at
yet.
.
.
.
#28:
Okay,
#1.
I'm going
to
take over control.
Go
back inside where you were before
and look
at
the
counter.
Hold that
in your mind.
Go back
inside.
Go back and get the counter.
All
right,
you got
the counter?
#1:
Yes.
#28:
Now.
We're going to
go through
an exercise now
'cause
its going to be time
to draw
in
a minute.
Look
at the counter carefully.
.
.
.
slowly,
slowly,
back out
away.
.
.
back away from
it.
Now you're getting away.
Now come outside.
Now
you're outside and you're looking
at
the entrance.
Now you're outside again standing on asphalt.
Now
you remember everything that you've seen.
And
when you're ready
its time
to draw.
PAUSE
#1:
Oh,
geez.
.
.
.
PAUSE
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#1:
Ah.
.
.
I
don't know
if
I
said
I
sensed yellow
before,
but
I
sense
a
lot
of yellow
in this
building.
And a
lot
of little squares of
glass.
Not very small but
two by three
feet.
And
a lot
of greenery
in
the front
of the building.
To the
front entrance way.
Its almost
like
its been
deliberately planted there.
In
the building.
In
the wall.
I'm going to
do drawing.
#28:
Okay.
#1
:
Get some
lights.
#28:
Okay.
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#1
:
There's
like
a
there's
a slanted
overhang.
There was
like slanted supports
in
front
of
it.
And
I
sensed the entrance-way
behind that.
This
is
a light
colored.
.
.
There
appeared to be
an area here.
.
.
where there's
a
lot of green. ...
in
this
area.
.
.
The
counter
is directly behind the wall.
.
.
behind
the
green.
I
sense two
floors.
Back here.
That's
two
floors
to
the building.
But
I
.
.
.
this
area
is ...
.
difficult
for me
to
.
.
.
with the overhang
and.
.
.
just
a second.
.
.
wall
(not
audible)
I
sense
a roofline.
.
.
Very
shallow roof.
Ah.
.
.
.front
of
a corner of the
building.
.
.
(not
audible).
Sense the
(not
audible)
glass
here.
Small windows.
Brick down
here.
.
.
.
Brick here.
.
.
No brick there.
.
.
Vents
located along the top edge of
the building
.
.
.
.
Alley way behind the building.
This was
all
asphalt.
With
a very high
curb.
.
.
Building
here.
Fast-food somewhere back
in
here.
Hedge
of green.
Main
road.
.
.
.
Tall object.
.
.
was
here.
.
.
but
like
in
a circle
.
.
.
And the
lightening bolt.
.
.
was
like here.
It appeared
to be something.
.
.
like
that.
Ah.
.
.
Looking
from the top. ...
I
sense this building as being
tall object.
.
.
.
Building.
.
.
that's not
right.
.
.
.
Building.
This
is
a secondary,
a guess
an
access road.
Street
light.
Gas station.
.
.
Gas
station.
Fast-food.
Fast-food was
.
.
.
shaped
.
.
.
doors.
.
.
windows.
.
.
that's
funny.
.
its
all windows.
.
.
Something funny about
the back
roof.
I
don't.
.
.Ah.
.
.
walkway.
.
.
Windows.
Facing that main building this way.
This went
out
to
the access
road.
And asphalt.
#28:
Draw the
inside
of
this
for me.
#1
:
This?
There's,
before
I
lose
it,
there's one
other.
.
.
I
described a
.
.
.
this overhang
is
not what
I described initially.
The initial over-
hang,
if you were standing under
it
,
.
.
.that's
not
right.
.
.
and looking
away.
.
.
. it had
supports.
.
.
like
this.
On one
side.
.
.block
.
.
.something was here
and
like.
.
.you went
in
here.
.
.
they are
like recessed doors.
.
.
I
can't
draw them.
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#28:
Do you think that
has relevance to this?
#1
:
I
don't think
so.
But
it was
very,
very
clear.
It might be
like.
.
.
it might
be
a
.
.
.
I
sense
its relevant
to this building,
but where
on that building
I
don't know.
It might be
down on
the other
end.
.
.
It might be
this.
.
.
#28:
Okay,
don't
try
to put
it together now.
#1
:
I'm not.
I'm doing too much analysis.
When
I
.
.
.
these
I'm not
sure
if they're
doors or
not.
Ah.
.
inside.
.
.
this building.
.
.
I
sense this
as being that part
of
the building.
The other part
I.
.
.
its
not
to clear.
I
saw
a wall
in
here.
And.
.
.
its not
right.
That
is
all
glass.
Behind this
glass.
.
.
which
is
this.
.
.
I
saw curtains,
green.
Doorway.
Portico.
Large tall object.
Counter.
Man
was here.
Two protrudences here.
Document
here.
Gr right
here.
Very dark
in
this building.
This was wood.
This was
.
.
.
This was
glass.
Glass.
.
.
doorway.
#28:
Where did you see #6.5
and #31?
#1:
Here.
#28:
Outside?
#1:
Here originally.
Here when
I
looked
for them.
Here originally.
And here one other point.
#28:
Do you feel
as though they ever went
inside?
#1
:
No.
They did not
go
inside.
PAUSE
#1
:
I
don't ....
Tremendous feeling that
there
was cooking
in that building.
But
I'm not
sure
if there was or
not.
It maybe flack from the
quick
food.
This was
a.
.
.
mostly red with
some white.
(not
audible)
type designs.
I
sense.
.
.
I
really sense yellow when
I
look
at
this overhang.
The one that
I"m not
sure where
it went.
I
sensed the color yellow tremendously.
#28:
Okay.
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#1
:
I
sense yellow
in this building,
but not
that
much.
I
sense,
sense brick than anything.
This building
is white.
And not
very signifi-
cant.
Its just
got
a couple doors and windows
on
it
.
I
don't
PAUSE
The architecture of this building
is probably,
ah.
.
1940's.
This building
is much more
modern
I
can't
think of anything else
to
add to
it.
#28:
Okay.
How about,
just
for me,
writing
in
labels.
You know,
you told me
as you went
through,
waht
the colors were and
I wanted to
let you flow
through that but now
if you'll write colors
and
things and what you think they
are made of
on
there.
.
.
.
#1
:
Yellow.
This
is
light yellow.
Ah.
.
.
glass.
.
That's
these high windows
here,
that's
glass.
Brick.
Red.
That's definitely
red.
This
is
definitely yellow.
White.
Roof
is white.
Glass.
Asphalt.
Green.
I sense this
is
shrub-
bery and this
is
shrubbery.
#6.5 and #31
.
.
.
And only #6.5
is here.
I
didn't
.
.
.
see
#31.
High curb.
Street.
That's the main
street.
Alley.
Building
is plain block.
This
is bright
gold or yellow.
Ah.
.
.
curb supports.
.
.
but
they
are
not
ornate,
they're
simple.
Simple
(not
audible).
They
are
just
like
a ...
I
can't
tell
if there's anything dividing the main support pole
from the decorative.
.
.
.
curved piece.
Its
like
the curved piece
is
light
aluminum there or some-
thing.
There's something there that's
to add some
kind or architectural
design.
These
are entrance-
ways.
I
take
it back,
glass and borner.
This
walkway here
I
didn't
feel
like was
.
.
.
concrete.
I
don't know
if
its on the building that
I
described,
or.
.
.
This
is
the quick food.
I
don't know what
to call
that.
Tall object.
(not
audible)
this was
the target building.
This
is
a
.
.
.
extra build-
ing,
whatever you want
to
call
it.
Alley way.
Intersection.
I
think this street's
a numbered
street.
This one's
got
a name.
Gas
station.
Blue
and white gas station.
.
.
And the pumps
are kind
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of off
set.
Kind of
at
a funny angle to
the
street.
Across here
I
sense
like
a ...
a
.
.
.
like
a wooden structure here.
All
I
can say
is
its wooden.
I
don't know
if
its
a
house or what
it
is.
Fast-food has got white
stripes.
Rest
of
it
is
red.
Even the roof
is
red.
Different
shades of
red.
Maybe red
brick.
Mixed with redwood;
mixed with red
stain wood.
Dark red shingles.
Its shades of
red.
A lot
of
glass.
Sidewalk.
Asphalt.
The
counter
is
not.
.
.
its
formica.
This
is wood,
this wall.
Entrance-way
is
glass.
Real nice
carpet.
Its
like
a green-gray
front.
.
.
That'
green.
.
.
That's
heavy.
That's glass.
This
is two stories.
But
I
don't
get
the feeling
for the main part
of
it.
I
can't.
.
There's
something funny about
the way
that building
connects
there.
I
can’t.
.
.
this
is two story
.
.
.
But
I
don’t.
.
.
I
don't
sense that
as
being two
stories.
#28
:
Okay
#1
:
That's
all
I
can think of.
#28:
Okay.
#1:
I
guess that's
it.
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POST- SESSION INTERVIEW
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION XIII
1.
(S)
Post-session interviews
are conducted after the
completion of
a session
to provide
the selected remote
viewer with the opportunity
to express himself concerning
his viewing experience.
2.
(S)
#1 was disappointed that
he did not have more
target
correlation
during his
session.
He stated,
however,
that
he now had an understanding of how his analysis of
his
images produced false
data.
He was eager
to
try remote
viewing again
so that
he would have the opportunity
to
report
his
target
impressions without
analytical
inter-
ference
.
3.
(S)
#1
and #28 got along very well during the session.
#1 was able
to communicate openly with #28.
#1
has
a strong
personality,
is extroverted,
and physically
active.
#28
has
an appreciation
for these basic personality traits and
relates
to them well.
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