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#66:
Focus your attention on the present time.
Very
late
in the evening,
1 May
1980.
#07:
I've got him.
He's sitting. ... .on the edge of a
cot.
I'm aware of more than,
more than
I don't understander
I
see more than one bunk.
. .dress,
dress,
right dress,
fi
I see people in other bunks facing sideway.
ft
#66:
Tell me about David's immediate surroundings.
#07:
I've been trying
to tell him
he seems to be behind
a partition on the other side
of the
room.
He's sitting
on
a cot.
Deep thought.
Depressed.
There's other people
down there... same floor... not
too far away... rows of bunks.
Small,
small beds.
One
is.
, .uh.
. .window set
(phonetic)
I'm looking up at
them.
I'm down close to
the bunk.
. .uh..
One is... must be. ....... .5-6 feet above the
floor.
There
are other people here.
I'm going to try
and get outside.
PAUSE
I got
a building.. .uh.
. .see one end of
it... about
2 stories
high.
Roof is kind of sloping instead
of
flat.
It's
long.
Behind
it.
. .irregular.
. .tan and green.....
slope,
slope.
iSounded like some kind of girdle shape halfway up on the
'building.
Maybe protruding ledge or continuous awning
shape over downstairs windows.
PAUSE
From entrance
to building appears to be mid-ship. .uh.
halfway ,
halfway out building.
. .secondary
is. .uh. .ground
fore right end.
#66:
0k.
Move up to
a higher altitude and tell me how this
building fits into the surrounding.
PAUSE
#07:
f
(Mumbling)
I
think the
side" of the building I'm looking
at faces
teaulJaaa&t
There are other smaller buildings
£r\
uh.
. .vegetation.
Behind the building.
. .less than^
/
'a mile,
I
think,
there's terrain
increases.. in -height
. .jr
I
see some. ... .looking over the building
I
see vertical
yf
tube shapes.
Possibly stacks.
Funny.
I
see shapes over
the top of the building some distance away.
It tools
like,
manufacturing.
I
see big tubes sloping down from upper
part
of building at 45 degree angle
I..... check this
side.
V*
/
PAUSE
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#07 :
A street about 100-150 feet beyond the building
There's
a flag
/t
a circle like thing. ... .oh!
I
think,,
I think it's
pole.
Something slender and vertigo.
. .about
75 to 100
feet from this building.
Seems to be
a circular area
ofi
a different texture.
. .paving. ... .paving maybe.
I
know.
I
see something blue to the right.
.
. .bright
I think
it might be a swimming pool.
It's very bright
very bright.
rea ofj^
/
don
1 1
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. blue.
/
ight,
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#66:
Now, move up to
a high altitude where you can look down
and see this building
in this area that you have found
in
the center of
25 square miles,
and tell me in general
terms what that looks like.
Where
is this building when
you're high enough to see 25 square miles?
PAUSE
#07:
I
think I'm looking towards the northeast
and there's hills
beyond
I'm in some kind of complex. .
. .uh. . . .village. .
.
.
city.
I kind of feel
I'm on southeast .
.
. uh . , .towards
the
southeast
periphery.
#66:
0k.
Place
the building directly underneath you,
so that
you aren't looking at it obliquely,
but directly underneath
you,
and looking straight down.
#07:
Wait
a minute.
PAUSE
0k.
#66 :
Now continue your description,
#07:
/
,It seems this is
a kind of valley.
I
got the distinct
feeling land slopes a little upwards some distance
to my
left,
beyond and to my right it slopes upward.
Lower
part*
seems to have alot.
. .more greenery,
more greenery.
But, X
I
can see dirty
tans,
earth colors to my
left and right.
Jf
There
'
s
some manufacturing or something
to the northeast.
I
guess.
North or northwest.
. .northwest.
I've been looking
for
a
...a contain.
.that area of some kind.
. .fence.
. .wall
...one beyond back
in
the trees... goes up beyond
the buildi
and
turns to the
left,
but it doesn't look like
it would
Xj
hold anybody
in or out.
It's just.
. .uh.
. .like,
like putting
\a tape around something.
. .stay
up.
PAUSE
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#66 :
#07:
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#07
#66
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#07:
I'm getting,
I'm getting overlay now,
I
think.
Looking
real hard for that fence or barrier when
I
came on the
scene
.
.
. uh .
.
.
. the corner of the compound . .
. uh . .
. behind
the corner where building B,C,D,E,F
were located.
PAUSE
I see something,
I
see something burning outside.
Uh....
8-10 foot diameter.
Like someone is got
a bon fire
....
there's stuff being thrown into
it.
Are your perceptions of the compound at the present time?
/
This is... like nearby compound,
, .think it's street just J
a few
feet away
.
.
. .compound,
«
, ..like,
like somebody
started fire and people taking turns running up and throwing
stuff in
it,
0k.
Holding your attention focused on this point,
I want
you to once again think about David and see
if you are
draw to the compound,
away from the compound.
See what
happens when you stand at this point and think about
David.
I'm,
I'm over the football field about 500 feet
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Damn.
.
. .having trouble,
having trouble getting him
acjptfn.
PAUSE
^
I
seem to be over the football field,
facing the corner
across the private shaped dwellings. ... »A,B
or B,C,
or something.
David seems to be 90 degrees from thdt
line to my
left.
PAUSE
Follow that tangient.
PAUSE
Damn
if
I
know .
I
saw,
I
saw .
.
. damn ..... that tank.
.
. .sahped
like a water
damn. ... .David
is not in
as nice surroundings
as some buildings interiors I've seen.
Seems rather austere.
PAUSE
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#07:
Ok,
Finally got him now.
He' £5 lying down now staring
at
the overhead. ... .room. .. .tan,
off-white tan.
. .beige.
.
.
#66:
Determine how far you traveled,
on your tangient from
the football field.
How far did you travel on that
tangient?
Put yourself overhead so that you see and
make
a judgment as
to how far......
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#07
I get the feeling it's the same... same city.
Funny
geometric shape... kind of
a dome shape over there.....
U3el Dave's kind of
to the right of inclosure
the
dome
is GOLD
!
PAUSE
GOLD color.
#66 :
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#07;
#66 :
#07i
#66 :
#07 s
Measure,
measure,
measure,
measure
tyie distance from
the football field area to David.
/
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Three* ........ »uh. ... .i—4 miles.
All right.
Fine.
I
have no further questions
about, the
target area at this time.
If there is anything that you
would like to add please do so now.
PAUSE
I
kept seeing aiot of paper and books and documents flying
through the air... when
I got in the vicinity compound.
,
, .1
did not see alot,
alot
of recognizable security around
the building David's
in.
I guess that's about
it.
All right,
have had.
Fine.
Let's draw those impressions that you
This one was weird.
.
I
kept spiking up
to... extreme muscle
tension all over my whole body.
Really tense.
Became
aware of
it.
Relax and the pain would stop,
and I'd find
myself spiking right up
to extreme muscle tension.
Thought
I'd put that down for the record.
Uh.
, .the buildings appeared rather
long.
It was some kind
of girdle around this thing that
I
thought was
like
projecting roof line to shade.
. .uh. , .downstairs,
first
floors windows.
Some kind of an inch away .. .middle here.
I noticed something else.
There appeared to be this roof
line.
. .uh.
. .every so often there was
a raised portion.....
like fabrics or something come right through the roof line.
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#07:
Uh.
. .the details of these windows,
I don’t know.
I
know there was some windows up... there was some windows
down.
Where am
I
.
,1 was aware of alot of vegetation and trees around
There was one or two trees in front and
I
couldn't
hulldina #
> ,Afaare appeared to be some
,
hills,
or something,
in the bacR^toon^^J^thought
there was some kind of circle
out
in
fr ont of the
I
thought f
T wnaalfc
, nuPe^ ‘-'tl
i uiiTJmrTt1§^^aT.
perhaps
a flagpole,
or something inside of some kind
of circle.
Texture was different...!
thought
it was probably .. .uh..
,
you know ,
street material,
masbnry,
asphalt or something’
around there.
Uh.
.
. .off to the right,
over
in here some-
where was something that
I
thought.
.
. .it was very blue.
I
thought
it may be
a po^.
#66:
At one time you said there were some other buildings
around there,
#07:
Yeah.
Some other buildings.
I
don't remember.
They were
smaller.
. .uh.
. .up in this vicinity here.
I don't have
feel for shape,
but they were up here
in this vicinity
somewhere.
And it seemed like you know,
cluster of several
of them .
Back
in these trees
I was aware of some kind of
...some kind of fence or something
in here,
but it didn't
dotted line
but
it didn't seem like it was going
to hold anything
in.
I
saw no security forces around here
.
1/ wasn't looking for them,
but
I
just.
.
. I
didn' t see them. ^
fjn fence,
not
a large substantial barrier.
I
don't think it can keep anyone
in.
I
don't think
it
keep anyone out.
It was like
if you stretch tape
aroun^
maneuvers around
a certain area and
say hey.
. .uh
It's a designated area.
Yeah,
It...
So the fence around
it is like
a designation of the area.
Don't cross the green
line,
blue
line,
sort of thing.
I thought there was some bigger buildings back
in behind
this
too.
You
know.
Like office buildings,
or something,
behind these trees
in here was.
. .uh.
. .was
a road or
et back in here somewhere.
Looked like some kind of
barracks or something .
I guess
I
say that because
he way the bunks were lined up.
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#07:
Oh!
I guess you want something for direction,
huh,
#66:
I tried to work you quite abit over the top of this
thing... see if we could.
. ..looking down from over: the
top
putting the building in the center of your view.
#07:
Oh,
I felt there was some green.
I was looking what
I
felt was... I was looking
in that direction.
. .uh. . .that
tangient from corner.
. .those
dolins
(phonetic)
are...
.....on that line
I
felt there was... uh... hills to my right
and sloped upwards to my left... and
I was in kind of
a
natural valley shape... and
I
felt that greenery was petering
out to tans and earth tones.
I'm not sure
I can draw those
shapes,
but
I think
I'd better try and draw parts of the
compound so I'll have the direction down.
I'm' not really
sure of compass directions.
/ i don't know.
There's some buildings over
in here,
f
I guess it was. along
in here... is where the A,B,C ,D,E ,1
/
or whatever those. ... .were there 4 of
'em?
I think
/
there's
a street here and inside this area here somewhere
I
I
felt. ... .inside the dotted circle there was a... .a
{
a large fire.
Maybe 8-10 feet
in diameter and peopl
throwing things
in.
I felt
I was in the vicinity...
\
the X... across that.
. .1 was further to the right,
\
felt that... uh... David was
in that direction.
. .the
Ns
"-~-ahaft
in the arrow.
#66:
Why don't you write
to David
on that line and the distance
that you felt you had
to get to him.
And label this
Embassy compound or something.
So somebody can just
quickly
look at that and understand.
#07 :
So
that would be with the Consulate
thetl?
#66:
I'm sorry.
I am not familiar with the names of the
buildings.
#07:
,'u t thought
I heard someone call
that
a consulate
//from
a picture.
, .the other day.
Yeah.
This
X here is
*
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j
somewhere around the big clearing
in front
of the building#
/
Uh.
. .this is
a dotted line towards where the fire......
/
f
I saw the fire somewheres, . . .it's about 90 degrees across#
There was another building here. .... .Was there anything /
else?
I can't remember.
*
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#66:
Basically,
then if we go away from the compound
3 to 4 miles
we would get to this type of building here.
Can you draw
me
a straight overhead of this building rather than an oblique?
Or did you ever see that scene?
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#07;
I would get
it and it would disappear on me and I'd
try and get it to something that
I
could tie it to so
I would know where
I was,
and
it just kept moving on me.
I felt
I
was in
a ...kind of
a shallow valley with higher
hills to my right. ... .wait
a minute.
On number
1,
looking over this building,
somewhere back
in here,
I
saw
a, ....
. .something
you know.... it looked
like industrial site
or something,
and it was.
. .uh. .
.
pipes coming down to something.
. .uh, . .1
don't know wh^
the heck it was.
I felt industry.
Another. .. ..on another
4 saw gold.
. .uh,
. .gold dome shape and
I felt that David was
closer,
this is not the scale,
but he was to the right,
and
closer
to the compound,
which had put him somewhere
in the
infinity
of the >tu^naLe
|>£ha£e
I felt relative to the
dcjnr
fhese distaDces ar
J
<? not accurate.
_Phere was
3ome more tall buildings.
I was trying to see
where he was relative to the dome and the tall building,
industry,
I
guess
it was.
I
can't remember.
#66;
0k.
#07*.
Sorry about those distances
in the scale,
but,
you know,
get the feeling for directions not distances.
#66;
Certainly.
I understand that in your perspective you have
a hard time judging distance since you can flit around
2000 miles
in the blink
of an eye,
you have a hard time
judging distances between things.
0k.
Anything else?
#07;
Fire within this circle.
#66;
0k.
0k?
#07;
X guess that's about
it.
Seemed the time... but there's
an awful lot more than that.
#66;
I'd like you to verbalize just
a little bit more on the
concepts you had about David's.. .the feelings you had when
you identified with him,
you talked about him haying being
...go back
to my notes here... you say he's
in
a state of
depression,
you say he's alone.
What were your feelings
about that time.
Can you tell me
a little bit about your
impressions. .........
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#07:
Yes.
I
felt,
I
felt that
in front
of other Americans
that;
he felt very storngly that he should be optimistic and
encouraging and jolly and happy and make everyone feel that
everything's
ok.
But,
privately,
alone and inside he
felt quite depressed and primarily because someone,
I felt
was trying to discredit him,
Uh.
. .make
a fool of him...,
,
. .uh.
. .make it difficult for him to show,
I
guess,
leader-
ship qualities
I guess to the other people;
and
I don't know
who the other people are.
But,
he felt it very strongly
that he should keep their spirits up,
and instead someone
is making him seem like an ass
in the front of some of
the
other people.
And,
I don't know who that
is.
I don't know
who... is American or
Iranian.
But,
what was that the
portion you was talking about?
#66:
Yes.
I wanted
to see
if there was anything you remembered.
#07:
Feels very frustrated and alone,
and isolated, eveo.".though
at time he's with. .. .apparently with several people.
#66 :
0k
,
#07:
0k.
Is there anything else?
#66:
No.
I
don't think
so.
That'll do
it then.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION CCC-92
1.
(S)
The remote viewer has been exposed to open source news media
information as well as classified overhead imagery and photographs
of many of the hostages.
The viewer was briefed on the current status
of the hostage situation and told that the whereabouts of the hostages
was not known.
2.
(S)
At the time of the session the viewer was asked to locate David Reeder
The viewer was asked to describe Roeder's location and determine
if there
other hostage personnel
in
the area.
The viewer was shown the attached
photo so that he might be able to "beacon" on David Boeder.
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