erent a mma atin oe ill tall daar tte ae ae NT ERR AAEM IIS 1 TINS eae SRC AS WEIS SANE 9 OST 8 9 a Approved For Releage_ gui #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 Approved For Release #00788R000800330001-8 If I was standing on the floor and watching staircase rise up over my head...... Right. Because that's where I was. standing +» -you see...I was standing near and under it when I was out at point number two. I was looking into point number two and the stairwell took off from my right and went up over my head. These wooden steps...and they went up over my head. Not audible. Right, right, right, from being underneath them. That's the first time I saw them. Then I turned around when J got down to the next place. I had the feeling that on this side....equally....was open and then I felt this linear type feeling all the way down, ok. As though we might have bars on both sides. Right, right. All right. That's three. The..the next room down...I think was occupied by two people. I think they were both in bed. Both sleeping, anyway. I had them sleeping on a set of bunk beds on the right side....left side of the room that were...I worked on this for awhile... I was hoping we would be getting you later to work on the people. Yeah. I tried, but.....yeah, I know. I tried that but I popped out of it. Once you pop out of it it's no good. Essentially, their layout was the same...that was the next one by....the next one down to the left. Could you tell me anything at all about the people that you perceived sleeping? Well, I thought that the guy on top had a beard. I would hesitate to even say that they were our people. I had the feeling of, you know, rumpled clothes, rumpled bed clothes, type stuff. But not like this. This...where he was...it was almost like nobody had even stept in the bed, you know. You know. You made a statement a few minutes aga that you would hesitate to say that they were even our people. Am pnpeneraa0Z2.552000800330001-8 i i
Approved For Release 20 SSA: 226-00788R000800330001-8 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 Approved For Release 200 a i f * i ; | else. Make shift type stuff. The feeling of this this guy .was-behind’-bars-” He was-betrg—kept in a I to infer from that statement that..... That there's just two people there. I can't tell you who they are. All right. It's not to say that you have information that they are not our people. I just did not get in...into..to focus on them. You know. That type of thing. I just had the feeling of two sleeping forms and a bunk style arrangements...top guy has a beard...and that's about all I can say. That's all I can do #66. If I do anymore it will be garbage. Ok. Is there anything you want to add? Anything about the session. No. But it definitely had a totally different character than any other of the preceding sessions that I've had. Different atmosphere...different type of a place.. is the definite feeling I had. Either my earlier ones could be wrong or they could be moved-or something like that. But, before it always been almost dam dormitory style. You know. Two to i three people to a room..ad hoc.-closed off rooms : in some buildings that really used for something was that it was straight incarceration place. That- it was. designed for that, and the quy was in that. It's not like he was stuck in a room somewhere, that was actually a library and that they just close the door and made him stay in there. This was like naa esigned for security and to keep him there. A I have not run into one like that yet™ This is the first one. We've had..... I've had the feeling of. be TTT Teontrotteds I"ve had -feeling of controlled movement. I've had other type things. Idle time...going nuts..... you know..... that type of thing..... you know...humming themselves to sleep at night...just because there's no challenge Finitely austere, drab, gray cement cool, musty, almost, dampish, basement room that is desi wit bars on it. That's designed to keep people there. In ...you knov....-infinitim ...very, very austere. YOU KNOW. eeeeeeeeeecrccee that's about it........ [sinsiory nothing to do, right. But, this is e &8788R000800330001-8 FOS ION. 3