Approved For Release 2000/08/08 ; 2100330001-3 SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE WIEWING (RV) SESSION 1. (S/NOFORN) This report documente a remote viewing session conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, 33, GJCS, Pentagon, Washington, OC. The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in Iran. 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target ere provided as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected ta any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol ($), undated, 4, (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impresaiona during the remote viewing seesion, At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impreasions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing information provided the remote viewer. 9, (S/NOFORN) The remate viewer was asked to locate Charles Jones and describe his surroundings. He deseribed Jones as being in a room with another hostage, later identified from photographs as Joseph Subic. The viewer felt this room was in a building located in a large city. He also feit there were other hostages (number and identity unknown) in the building. The viewer felt there were three guards, one roving, associated with this area. The viewer felt | this area was familiar to him because he had "seen" it in a previous remote 4. viewing session (see CD11). Approved For Release 2000/d8/bahia ORCON
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R002100330001-3 +06 +10 #665 #663 #24.53 #66 #24,53% #66: #245: #66: TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VEIWING (RV) SESSION CO-91 This will be a remote viewing session for 09060 hours, 18 July 1980, PAUSE Relax now and concentrate. Relax and focus your attention on Charles Jones, whose picture I have shown you. Move your awareness now to be with Charles Jones. Move your awareness to Charles Jones at the present time. Locate Charles Jones and describe his location to ime. PAUSE Feels like I'mon. . . I'm hanging on. . . a wall. On the wall by the. . . window. . . open. .« . gandstene, i'm looking through this window. . .T'm hanging. ». . two or three sleries above. . . ground. . . Inside is... (mumble) . . .still asleep. . . cirbicle. . .(mumble). .. the guy is sleeping. . . lying in a bunk. . . in a upper bunk, wrapped in sheets. . . the bunk is positioned... in Front of a window on the other side of the room... it's a familiar building, I've been here before. Tell me what makes you say this. Configuration. . . the calor, the size and the wings. . . that stick out. . . I just feel like I've been here before. But I'm in a different part, same general area, but may be. Ig Jones alone in this room? No, he’s got a partner here. Tell me about his partner. PAUSE { don't get any of this feeling of a. . . blond-haired, youthful guy, who's only in his early twenties. He's g soldier. « » PAUSE There in the. . . about one floor down of f othe roof. . . guy that, the young guy that looks like a guy I know. .. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : <ifaiphiaa Sh fdifeodrooss0001-2
————————— ~ Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA 6 a g-80330001-3 #ea.5:  .. . it's his reomie. . . a marine first, but. . . T got this, uh, rehash of a photo I've seen before of this kid in uniform. +16 #66: Okay, T'dl ask you te identify him later. I would like you to teil me about the greater building now in which this is loceted. Move your perspective and tell me about the gr reater building in which this room is located. #24.5: I'd say, uh. . . a building that has a, uk, some roundness on the top at one end like a capitol of same kind, « But in Front it's on a street. . . has a wide. . .wide step- way, you know, like a governmental building and 2 thas Go « « big darkness in the front like. . . a large ornamental arch way. . .0n the left side there are two bumps that project out of the side of the building. . .they are equate. « - where I am is, wh, . .in the first bump going around the core ner, about third floor level, maybe fourth Floor level. . « building is, uh. . .on another side, now. .- -almost appears to be cut ouk in the back of the. . . Yes, it’s there, it’s, uh, cut ou tin the back side and has a longer buap on the inside of it. . .building is growing bigger and bigger as. » « though the building is. . . Twas only looking at one end, one wing, of a "U" shape, which spraads it out an inner court. . #66: Move now abave the building, and tell me about the shape of the building and the surrounding area. sd PAUSE #24,5: Acvoss the, uh. » sl tried capitel and. . . arts. I've got a feeling, I'm looking as I'm coming across from the horizon, “like a road, and a. . .it comes to the road in Front. . .come up to it, but there's some angles in there, as though there are two angle reads that go off, forming an arrow. » + arrow~ head away feom this place. . . that area like a, . + MOE populated, it's like a. . .an open park area with Che roads that ga through it. #662 De you recognize this area? 5 ; aS ha => a wae as No. Do not reeagnize it . . Where £ am, though. . .Now I have the feeling that around and behind me om three sides. . . is the other buildings and. . .but, this building is the big- gest 0 the area. . . Lower, two and maybe three » eeory buildings. Some small buildings y like homes. . . I got the definite reeling that one is. . . it's forward side is definitely on a unooeupied area and more residential and business area sprawls aut behind, and. . . ta the vight and left. #66; Okay. Let me see if I understand whet you're saying. That if, ta one side of the building in which you pereoive Jones seems to ba more of an open type area, no buildings. But to the oo other side there seems to be more buildings, perhaps residential ww perhaps business like buildings ae ene side. So there's a distinct difference on the sides of the building. Do I under~ stand you correctly? Approved For Release 2000/08/08 ¢®| 100330001-3
#24 5s #66: #24 .9% #662 #66: $24.53 HOG: #2453 #665 #245: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : C Aeross the street is the open area. Okay. Looking ab that from up above, to inyfeight , ta my left, and to my rear is the occupied area. . Cause the building is sur- rounded by occupied area except on one gide, which I perceive to be the front. I understand. Let's focus now back down on Jones, and on the bd room in which he's located, and go now to a search mode for guards. Deseribe for me any security guard type situation. PAUSE. Have a walker, who is on the, . . floor even with, . .on the ain stem of the building. I have thie. . . looked like a bunch of arches, and I'm walking along under them. . . 07 like a balcony that's covered. ... This is on the level af the. . . He walks like a sentry. » » Anything on him? . . »he has a pattern, and he moves from one end to the other. Okay» That's all I can see on this level. . . I, uh. . No, wait. There's a, I'm somewhere down the corridor on that little. .. appears to be a small room back in the same part of the build- ing off. . . off the corridor, which is like a guard room, which has three people in it. It's like a, uh, a watch room, on the corrider, near what 1 thought was the front part of the building. . . From this room the people ge out and walk down the corridor, checking rooms on the right, which is the main stem of the building, and periodically checking the rooms on the left which are the two protrusions that jut out from their wings, but they're one room wings. They're only big enough for ene room apiece. The guy that leaves that piace does not have to go all the way down to the other and, to the distant end of this corridor. Okay. I'd like you to focus for a minute on this guard room where you say these ether people are located, the other quard types are located. Focus on that for a moment, just Looking at it and observing it wnile I turn the tape over. Okay, tell me a littie about this room that you said is a guard room. Has a very. . « aimilarly. . . get the idea of bare sandstone type. No windows because it's on the inside stem. « « Tt's in the main part of the building, the interior. It has geveral knock-down tables in it, and there's debris and stuff, equipment and. . . locks like maybe sleeping rolls scattered around the inside wall. The table's back on something in the 30001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/08" Z 082100330001-3 #2855 #665 #2493 #665 #24.53 #66: HOGS Be wo? #663 #245: #662 #66: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 ; middle of the eoom, which is large and square. » » go from floor to ceiling. It is a linear vertical pattern like, almost Like wall lockers were stacked in the middle of the room. The room deeper than I first expected, but. . -l get 4a feel that on the sides and the back are several single beds for sleeping and they appear to be. . «metal frame, about four in here. One slong the left wall in the back to the tree along the back wall. 39 Those were the cots you're.talking about? Yeahs « » Now, you had mentioned that when the guard goes on patrol to a, what you refer to as a level, that he looks in roome on both sides of the hall. Do you perceive that there is more hastages than just Jones and his partner here? Yes. About four or five rooms, other than this one, that are all located on the right side of the hall. And the first room is the guard room, and the rest of them down there have the people in them that are checked. Okay. Let's move back outside, now, to a point of perspective where we might be able to locate this building and it's neighborhood within a larger perspective. Let's see if we can't determine the location of this area. Lt am over [ran.. . aver the Persian Guif. . . my attention is. . » imagining the outline of Iran. . . My attention is dravn to a dot in the upper end of the Persian Gulf, just to the right, and inland. . . wherever. that is... Okay, remember this map draw it for me. I have that you have in your mind sa you may no further questions. I'm reducing the scale. All right, continue. PAUSE fo the, uh. . . I feel that there ia a. . .large, uh, airport on the very horizon. . . away as far a3 [ know is 10 miles, §-10 miles. . . direction it would be off my. . . back, quad~ rant as i'm looking at this open.area. . . my back would actually be the airport. ... The interesting thing about it is that. . . the main line of the airport, I'm loeking ak ity the runway comes, points right at the city, outskirts and everything. .» « it damn near points right at the building. I feel there are other outlying smaller runways and thi gut the main, real big main wide center coy about on a direct pointing toward where Wis building is.- And that's it. Okay, let's prepare to draw then. 8) 330001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : #24.5: fg0kay, the first thing was this, uh. . . The predominant theme in this is a building that has wings, short, stubby winge that stick out of it... PAUSE . » « like this, in sketch one. And the feeling vas that I was about three floorg up. Gkay? I'll draw you a sketch of the thing, the whole side, because it's right near the front, that's what I was talkin' about. I'll draw more of this later. And that goes across there, and there's some sort of capitol, .. there, That's how if pieces together. The place that I had my first image, this later developed, okay, the rest of the building grew, but where I thought I was to begin with was right up in about this level, where the square cutout is, which is the window. Okay. Amd, you know, I didn't detect any windows. .. It's a Funny layout. This forward raght part of the building I don't see the bump ty humps along it. Gut on the interior side, like past this First wing where the guy is, there's this type of thing, as though there's an exposed baleeny along the cutside of the building, like that. Okay? f didn’t feel that that was repetative all the way down the wall on the inside thing, but [ know that it's net out here. é a plain ace sandatone block out on the right side op’ sketch one. Larg? type structure. But in here tes the balcony : covered balcony is in there. faval y Saree wy The reason I got the idea that these wings were only ore room thick was because when I penetrated the. window right an the other side of the room, which is only 15 or 20 feet wide, which would imply to me that the wing is only 15 or 20 feet wide, were the bunke, which I'll draw in sketeh two, and the buriks were in front of another exterior window and they vere on the other side of the room. Okay. 50 for sketch two, I had cur guy on the top bunk. . . That's really way up too hagh, but anyway. . . And there's a window right there, and the bunk lays right in front of the window, on the other side, that's the thing that gave me the feeling, you know, that I'd gune to the other side of the room. The room's not very big. Very plain inside. And our guy was.up here. What's his name? Jones. #G6: Jenes. #24,5: Jones was sleeping there. And the guy. . . 1 worked on the guy in the bottom of the bunk, and IT had a definit feeling of a younger guy, a definite feeling of a white guy with sendy blond hair came through first, end then I was, and the military feeling came through first. And I figured, well, he just wert inte the Marines. Bub then the Feeling that T had, the image that @canaed to me, the picture I say was, I sav a picture that we have, that I've seen before caming through trying to identify people. And it's the youthful Spec 4 or ae E-5, wears glasses, and he has darker light hair, ard he's Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : 00330001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIAF 424.5: dressed in greens, okay, and IT can identify the picture that ecewtned to me there. Anyway the other guy here was there, okay, and it was just. a plain, again, just a plain sandatoane ed room. Maybe 25 feet that way and maybe 15-20 feet that way. Gkay? And this is like peering through the window from this view in sketch two. . . Didn't even see any access door or anything like that, cause [ had my back, I was perceiving only from this direction, I didn't really see any descr. I pre- sumed that the doar was at this end, cause of my perspective. #668 Okay. Why don't we go now ta a, like an overview, a floor- plan of the parts of the building you perceived. #245: AfYeah. It's sort of complex, is why it's genna be difficult. The room was familiar, I mean the building was familiar from f the last session that I did some months ago, a month or two ago... » You want just a floorplan, then? #66: Yeah. #24,5: Okay. #66: To the best of ycur recollection, don't add anything that you didn't actually feel was there. #24.5: Dotted Lines are because I had this overpowering type feeling that this thing was actually "U" shaped. . . Oh, I just re- membered, I left something out that I saw before. . . Here ed on this side was something else that sticks into the. . . but it's a different size than the exterior. Okay. "X" marks the spat. There is some sort of a capitol dome type thing here. 3 3 ao. Loe ee Okay. Label that dome. #24.5; Okay. The floor plan is this. Along, between these two ex- terior = oh, and there's a street here, and there's, Til draw a front, okay, later. This is the exposed area with the humps on it. Qkay. And inside that, there's a hallway. The hallway goes somewhere around the corner, T don't know where, around the corner. Up here, one, two, three, four, five, are five rooms, L'il label them H, H, H, H, 4. These are rooms that guards checked. Okay? I did not go in those rooms. All I know is I labeled them H because the guards checked them. Presuming hostages. The "G" room on the end is the guard room, Okay? The guard antivity that I saw, and this was some sort of a court, grass caurt with sidewalks in it, But I couldn't detect any pattern, Like a geometric pattern in there, anything like t ate fkay To Fheguacd walked, he would, the guard wag mat concerned with anythang-that was around the corner“Snd towards the dome. The guard wa&.cencerned only wit) going halfway down the eide of buiiding.\,I don't know jf there's another guard that covers the other end or any- {thing like that. The guards patrol would check doors alonge—_—_"~ Xin these rooms, and would cont flown LhigeamaviTed passage- : and then he'd turn aan Read ga back.
— EEE __—Ke« Approved For Release 2000/08/08 . #66: $24,555 #66: #2457 #663 #2453 #56: #24.5% FOG: $24.5 #66: ww #2458 #66: #24653 #64: #25 oS HGS: #24.5% #63 ¢ Okay. Okay? So he'd come out, he'd go down no, he's actually going down the inner hallway there. Have to remember iim up on the third floor, or something like- about that high. Now, how many guards did you actually sea? } had a feeling that three people were there. T only saw one, and that was the guy that was moving, Okay. But when ~ got inte the room, I just had this spontaneous feeling of well, three people bunked here. Okay « Okay. Maybe ran rotating shifts or something Like that. Okay. ALL right? That's fine. The room with the "X" in it then ar the- is where denes is. where Jones. . « Do you have any feeling for number of occupants of the "H" rooms? No. I know that you didn't explore them, but you did feel the guard was checking? Yes, I felt the guard was concerned with those on the righ & as well as on the left as he moved down the hall. Okay. Ure ss Um, 1 I don't know how many are in each room or anything like that. Okay, I~ our concern with drawing a different. scale row, and moving up and away from that and putting this ina neighborhood and into a city. Okay. All right, for four. . . This is my arravhead, Talked about an errovhead, Which you think is a street pattern? Which I think is a street paltern in a, in essentially a open, more open park area. Okay. Extending for some half mile or something, a goed sized open area, which is different Lhan 00330001-3 wip
30001-3 #24.5; the whole other area surrounding this place. There's a. « + Qkay. Uh. . . The hash marks is just this different area, w #66: An open area of some kind, okay. « + #24.5: Well, when I say open, I don't mean open bare. I mean it's epen from habitation. It doesn't have houses in it. [h's- it has trees, it has streets to go through the trees, boulevards, it has people, but it doesn't have heuses and buildings. #66: Okay. PAUSE #24 5% Street pattern, okay, and that continues an and up. . » Okay. Along the right, what T was trying to say during the session ia that as I looked at this arrowhead away from the front of the building, on the left, on the right, and behind me wag all city, structure, humble-jumble. Two and three story buildings, max. Didn't see any skyscrapers or anything like that. Uh, small little houses, mud hovels mixed in with, you know, two story cement brick buildings, you know, it's sort of a humble~jumble of city. #66: Okay, why don't you hash mark that area and label that appropriately. PAUSE ww #66: Is this scale inapproriate to indicate your airfield? #24.5: Yeah, it is. I'l) indicate the direction, Uh.» PAUSE #24.5: The city aleo sort of sprawls across into the area gurround~ ing this open park. I'm not going tb say that the city is linear like this. Once you're out of this open area of maybe~- this is a half mile -about a half mile, I'll say. #66: Is there city beyond the bounds of the open park? $24.5: Yes. Yes. Half mile, and this is nalf mile. And once you get a half mile down the road from the target building, then the city comes around the corner and sprawls out. PAUSE #24.5: Go to higher scale? #66: Okay. PAUSE _ #24 05% I was looking at the damn thing from a low, very low oblique. 00330001-3
———_E EE _———_—_ TCT Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : #2453 #662 #24,55 #663 #2458 #EGs #24.53 #662 #24,53 #66: #24.55 #66: #24253 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 I'm trying’ to remember what the hell that airport pattern Was « PAUSE 1 didn't really look at it down from above, I was looking at it from the side. There ware two subrunways on each side. And there's connections in there tao, but I dantt know, have no idea what they are. . . The thing I remember recall ing cut of that whole importance of this area- the reason, {1 don't know why, you know, I was looking around, well, okay, where in the city am 1? The only thing I could think of or the only thing that came to mind was ~ Uh, over there is the airport, and Oh, look at that the main runway, just about points right at this building. Okay? It's a awful Little bit, it's not a true azimuth. It's of f to the back of it. Like that. But it's aimost, estimate the di And again, can you - starice? Yeah, it's about- it was way over there, you know. It was like, I was up om top of this building, and I just make out the runway on the horizon. So I have to say it was like §-19 miles, looks like. Okay. On top of a two or three story building, looking out, just being able to make out the runway to the horizon, Right. There are people that know how to calculate how far you can see from the top of the building, so that might help. Yeah, but do they know-how to calculate how far you carn see using remote viewing? I have no idea. qt could be 450 miles long. Right. Yeah, and the major urban sprawl, major city complex was here, okay. Call it the main city spread, and then oul here was like beginning suburb. The character of the land, the character changed, it wasn't in the country, but it was like out in what a developing suburb area would look Like. Okay» This isn't right, 1 made it too big. PAUSE m5 3 edi SAF 00330001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA- vi 330001-3 #66: Okay, you can talk a little bit about six, now. #24.5: Oh, you get it going? Gh, all cight. Six is, uh, 1 said I had a real high oblique. I had sort of imagined this very general shape, supposed to be Iran, with the Persian Gulf on the left side here. And just where my attention was Focused I didn't see the city, but using the substituteof a map type of an idea, where my attention was fecused and around which L built this map and everything is the dot located in the upper left hand corner of the rough outline ef the country. #66; Okay. #24.5s Okay. And I'll lebel it Location of city in which target is located, #56: Okay, this is somewhat of a technique which we don't usually use Do you have any confidence level in this concept in six here? #24,5: Well, it's essentially the same one that I used when I dewsed before, only when I dowsed the map we just didn't, 9 UNAY { ; you knew, you build the map, and then there's something that says around this thing where you start is the thing thet you want, and you build the rest of if around it. So 1 don't know, L've had luck with it before. © #665 Okay. What you've drawn here now gives 3 median idea on how to locate this building within a city, and then within the building where he is. Now, is there anything that you felt like you ought to add? $24.5: Yeah, I want to do- the only thing I want to add is a sketch of the front of the building. #66: Okay. #24.5: Which I had started on cne but because of the perspective- #66: That would be outside of the dome area in the building. #24.5: Right, right. #66: Okay. 24.5% There is a large, useless, ornamental arch. . . And what I mean by useless is it's not. . . the doorway is just a little fraction dwon in there, the arch is all in the structure, it's all built in to make it look like a huge doorway. It's mot. . And the pillars that hold up the arch are not pillars. They're carved in the side of the building. Okay? That type of a thing is what I'm talking about. #66: Decorative as oppesed to functional? #24.5: Yeah, decorative as opposed to functional. You got it. . . Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-0078
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-R ok 902938R A001 01-3 #24.5: Then there's the capitol on the top of it, which has a funny thing sticking up out of it. w PAUSE #24.5: It looks off center. It's not really off center, you know, it's very geometric, it's centered om the side. This area jg all darkly shaded because it's an wider Nange » « Okay, and around there is to gketch one. Okay’? #66; Okay. PAUSE #66: take it the street would be in the foreground then? #24.53 Mm-hmm. #66: Anything else you want ta add, then? Okay, that'll do it then. eed = Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R002100330001-3
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