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Okay.
I'm just very suspicious of the lighting fixtures, that
I
Wept being
drawn back to these indirect lighting
fixtures,
these florescents that are hidden
away.
That's
all
I
got.
Okay.
Now that you have completed your drawings,
I want
to spread out these picture here,
so we can
look at them.
The drawings #1 through #4,
the area you perceived here
and at this time
I'm now going
to open the sealed envelope
and show you the photographs
of the area here.
And
I want
to see how you compare these photographs with
what
you found and then perhaps actually seeing the
photographs,
you can direct me to the area of importance
within the photographs.
So
I
now show you
the photographs
of the interior
area.
Now the photograph here,
labeled
#1,
is
a picture of an entrance to an upstairs area and
it's
a very
large conventional
vault door that apparently,
somehow,
closes off the bottom of the stairway.
And
once you
go
up the stairs,
we move to picture #2,
in
which we have a security
door
of some kind,
as
you
see,
it has some
locks and
it has
a little shelf on
it,
okay.
Now,
if
I were to walk in passed that door
and. close
thewdoor behind me
and look back at the door,
we would
move
to drawing #3,
which is looking back
at the door.
And also there's,
you then have your series
of three
offices,
2 and
3.
Okay.-
We have some,
it's hard to tell from these pictures,
where we would go from here,
but obviously there are some
different
inside,
in drawing #3,
behind the protective
door,
we see there
is the area we are standing
in,
plus
there's
an area off to
my
left and off to my right.
Yes,
okay.
The area of interest
is,... my opinion,
judging
by the pictures and my drawings is the area that
I was
in with this guy,
that
I
felt was the area of interest,
is this room
or where the third photograph was taken
from.
Okay,
if we look at drawing #2 and look straight back, then,
you think that
is the area that you saw the guy
in.
The guy
in,
right.
And the area
in,
looking
in picture
#3,
looking towards the,
I guess the top
of the stairs or
whatever,
yeah,
the top of the stairs,
the room to the
right,
behind that metal door,
is the area that had
electronics
or whatever,
in
it.
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Okay,
from the way you can perceive things now, looking
at
it.
Yes,
the
vi/ay
I perceive things now that
I'nj looking at
it..
And
I think that
my box shape,
in my drawing #3,
I think
is the door that's open.
I think
it's
a 180
degrees flip-flop and the door's
open.
Oh,
I see,
you're saying that
The box shape
is the
door that's open.
In photograph #1,
the door matches your box shape
in drawing #3.
Yes,
I get that impression.
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T-
By the mere image of
it.
Yeah,
I
get that
impression.
All right,
do you have any other comments concerning this
morning's session, now seeing the photographs of the interior
of the area?
Just
in
my drawing #4,
where
I
had these three rooms,
I
see where the hallway
is now.
It's the line.
It's the
line between the electronics and the inner office.
It's
kind of weird,
but
a..
So what youfre saying,
I think,
is in drawing
#4,
you
have
3 offices,
but they are not put together
in
a way
that
you see they probably are,
in the pictures?
Right.
I
also see that
in photo #3,
I
see
a florescent
light back behind what appears to be some kind of
a
window or glassed
in area,
you
know.
And that's the kind
of way
I'm seeing florescent lights through this whole
building,
you
know,
in this upstairs area.
I
get
an
impression like, getting an impression
like,
you
know,
that rings true,
so whatever
floreslcent fixtures are
inside,
particularly .in #3, where the guy was standing
in the room,
that's visible in picture
#2. and
in picture
#3,
the room to the right,
which
I perceived to be the
electronics room.
I would be very concious of the florescent
fixtures
in those areas.
Okay.
Is there anything else you would like to add.
No.
Thatls all.
I'm
a little disappointed in my
staircase,
but
at least
it was
a straight stair and
it wasn't
a twisty stair
or spiral staircase, or anything
like
that.
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