Approved For Release 200Q/64 mGtA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5 TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION VI TIME #28: This will be a remote viewing session. (Edited for security. ) PAUSE #28: Okay, #31, #11, #34 and #6.5 are all at the target and are observing the area. . . Look at the target with them and describe the area to me. (Edited for security. ) PAUSE +03 #28: Tell me about the images that come to mind. PAUSE #31: (Long sigh) PAUSE +05 #31: I seea.... .a row of dark things (not audible). #28: Good. PAUSE #28: Describe them to me. PAUSE #31: They are round; #28: Yes. PAUSE #28: Go on. PAUSE #31: Ah. .. Um... Long dark... long dark (long sigh). . umm). PAUSE Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5
Approved For Release 200 ae ie Ter TIME +08 #38: #31: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: +10 #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/G# RDP96-00788R000900800001-5 Describe their shape. PAUSE Ummm . PAUSE In front of them are PAUSE Go on. Umm. . Ah. . . Square and (not audible). Also, I am on white. They are on dark. It seems like they are higher than me. But not much. The round things. OKay. PAUSE They are... they. . . they are in front of the .. . . between me and the .. . ah, structure. Describe the structure that is behind them. PAUSE Tail Go on. Dark spots; square. Yes? But I keep getting a feeling of . . @ fence or something between me and the building. Okay. PAUSE And I... . I want to go in there. (Whisper- ing - not audible). . I want to go... I want to go. . . I want to go .. . I want to go. PAUSE $6-00788R000900800004-5 1
wi)P96-00788R000900800001-5 Approved For Release 2000496: #31: $$%1I'11 work on the picture of the PAUSE #28: Tell me about what you see. PAUSE +13 #31: Down the, I'm going down the wall on the sidewalk. . #28: Okay. #31: Or the white. #28: Okay. #31: The dark stops and the structure comes out to where I am. Ummmm. PAUSE #28: Describe it to me. PAUSE #31: Umm. (Long sigh) PAUSE #31: And it comes out to the edge of where I am. . . . Um. . . This is hard. .. . Its not as big as the other tall. . . . I don't know. A +15 little farther, its a dark front. . . towards me. #28: Okay. #31: And then it, then it goes back... . Umm. Umm. . . Hmmm. . . Huh. PAUSE #28: Describe the area to me from further away. PAUSE #31: Ah. I'm afraid to. I think I have something in my head that shouldn't be there. PAUSE Ey pay Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5
Approved For Release 2000/08@ TIME #28: #31: #28: +18 #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: FP GMeRPP96-00788R000900800001-5 Tell me what you see. PAUSE I see a... . Ummm. .. . It would be black. . prominently black (not audible). . The thing is in the middle of it and the puild- ing is behind it. I'm trying to keep the left out of this. You don't have to tell me .. . (not audible). I am in amongst cars on a large black area Its hot. (long sigh) PAUSE Describe the .. . thing. Hmmm. It is a small. .. It is smaller. It is a Don't tell me what it is, describe it. Square, dark inside, light around, . . . not. big. . . Big square behind it. Describe the thing behind it. Big square construction PAUSE To the right. Describe what is to the right. PAUSE Umm. (long sigh) Hmp. #28, I gotta pull this out. I'm not getting anything that I am sure of. Do you feel like you want to draw now? IT, . . i. - . Iam afraid I have a familiar target and that' s whats giving me problems is that; and I have. I don't know what I'm seeing and what I'm reading in because I know the target. I think. I know the target. 4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5
Approved For Release 2000/ TIME #28: #31: #28: +22 #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5 9788R000900800001-5 Are you (not audible)? Ah, yes. Describe what you see. PAUSE Green on right. Okay. Goes to right . . . a walkway and it stops. Good. Ah, where it stops, it is a long, vertical line. And, green goes around and goes on in the distance. I see wire. . . I can't see wire. . . I see a little box on the edge of the green. PAUSE Its going to be time for you to draw pretty soon. Umm. On top, far up, Tell me (not audible). Round, and white. On top, far up, round and white. Top is dark. And big. PAUSE Describe where you are now. Up. And your top edge. . . Sun is in my back. Go up Round is on my left. Good. t
Approved For Release 2000/0S TIME #31: #28: #31: #28; #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: ge ret ae & n% 6-00788R000900800001-5 ay es 3 Near the edge. Good. Go further. A box on the right. Okay. And your other edge. Okay. The top of the box is about dark. Thing stick- ing out of the roof. Another box on the right edge. Dark top. PAUSE Stand . Another box. Another box. On the edge. Dark top. Edge turns corner. Small corner out again. Stand. Things sticking out all over. Top. Stand on the top. Look out. Describe what you see. I'm looking towards dark. Round, white, on the right. Ummm. Go on. Dark line above top . . . all around to corner. . . up the side I just did. The black, the boxes with the dark top are light. On the roof. Umm. Not tall, but short. Okay, the tape stopped some time ago; but, we'll go ahead and work while you draw. Approved For Release 200016 0 .- VIA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5
Approved For Release 2000/08/67' &1 TIME #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 5 an 88R000900800001-5 That's too bad. All (not audible). I kept talking about left and I'm afraid that I was familair with the target. I think. All I could get was the NSA building. Okay. You had in your mind that it was the NSA building. That's why I was worried about it. Because what I kept getting was that. And I didn't know what I was .. . Obviously, I just may have screwed the whole damn thing up. . I don't know. Because you know, I've been around the damn building 500 times. I don't know what I'm feeding into it and what I'm not. Um hm. And, if I had; I'll be very upset. So even though, in one part of your mind, you felt as though you were locked into a familiar target, you tried (not audible) describing? Right. I kept. .. I kept trying to say now, now, you know. Are you filling that in or is that what you. . . or is that something that is sort of pure, you know? Now where I was, this start point was about right here. Start - I'll put "S" right there. Damn it. Did it again. I do want the "Y" there. Because this comes out and I said it was green on the other side or I said it was dark. I said this was dark. And, I, I don't want to do that one. I don't want to do this one. This is the first, all right. That's the important thing to remember. I had (PAUSE) The first one and there's no end to that, that .. . what I had was .. . (PAUSE) and, this (DRAWING) is dark, like ground. Actually, that should go that way. But, you know, remember I said round, dark things. (PAUSE) And, behind this, was, and I said it was higher than I was. It was like .. . like this was a white. . . and this was, this was flat and this was up, okay, like that. It came up like a wall and on the other side of the wall were the bushes. 90788R000900800001-5 1
Approved For Release TIME #28: #31: #28: #31: (Door #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : {BD 96-00788R000900800001-5 So you are calling those big round things bushes. Yeah, for the lack of anything better. Okay. And, behind that, this comes back, and then this was a big white thing, okay. That perspec- tive goes that way. And, that perspectives goes that way; and that perspective goes that way. It just continues. Ummm. And this is a. . . white. . . And this is dark here. . . Okay, to show that these are opposing things. . . (DRAWING). I said windows; there is darkness on that. . . wall, or whatever. There is darkness on that white space. PAUSE knocking) Alright, here we go again. Two, now then. This may be the only clean one you get, okay? Because that's when I started worrying about it. Because that's when I thought I knew where I was. And as far as I'm made to go through it step by step anyway, it just kept coming back. So you think that That, is here. Start. Okay. The start point. Um hm. The "'S" on your other drawing. Yes. The start point. Okay. For the record then when you saw. . . when you were at Number One, you saw these big round things and so forth and so on, you thought that was pure imagery. But after this, .... After this, I had looked down this wall and I saw that thing. Okay? And that's when I started talking about wire. And that's when I said NSA building. That's when I, try as I may, even though I would go back and do it over again. You know, and I did it by the numbers. Like I came right down. I followed the edge of this wall right here. I tried to follow that and I got to this corner, which is lower than the rest of the 90 788R000900800001-5
Approved For Release 2008 , | 7 TIME #28: #31: #31: #28: #31: #28: #31: #31: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 CIA-RDP96-00788R000900800001-5 30-00788R000900800001-5 building, its a protrusion and its dark inside. And when I looked down that wall to see that, that's when I started to think that I was at the NSA building. So, you are trying to tell me now that perhaps everything from this point on might not be valid because you had a lot of analytical review. Try as I may. Even though I was trying to go by step by step, I don't know if that was, if I was artificially piecing what I saw together. Or if it was actual. And I, you know. PAUSE (DRAWING) That is that. And that's. Hm? PAUSE I can't. . . (DRAWING) I, I don't want to do it this way or this way. This thing was sticking out of the side of the building. This is that dark .. .. And that's when .. . .Okay, and this is a... the same start point, but see I don't have wire there, you see. But, I had it here. Only this is plain. . . Now, on the other side, I told you that it was the same. Which is the same in this, okay? Um hn. Whether there is wire on the other side or not I don't know. This is, let's say, this is the edge of the building. That continues. I said there was a little box. That is... there. You can see what I am talking about. This is that looking this way. No, its longer than that. Okay? The edges... hmm. . . The edges protrude. .. like that. okay? I said it was dark, right? And back here
Approved For Release 200070 om 145 §-00788R000900800001-5 on each side of it is that green. On the right green and on the left. #28: On drawing Two, why don't you write "box" down here and then write "different view of box" or something. "Front view." #31: Okay. #28: Okay, this is the first one and that's the second one, okay. Actually, when you get right down to it and there are the start point really when you see it when you talk about it. In here. Okay, that's green. And there's : okay, I'm sorry, I forgot that, in here. It takes off like where I was - that's the bright. And this is the dark, out here, okay? In the overhead view, it turns back around again. (not audible) The feeling is that this thing is considerably lighter than this thing. (not audible) ADMIN NOTE: Tape recorder failure at this point. Approved For Release 2006@#i00 #4 A-RDP96-00788R000900800004-5