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#1
Ah
ha.
#66
Now,
I have no further questions about this target.
If
there's anything that you would like
to add about
the
perceptions that you've
had,
do so now.
#1
I haven't
got
the slightest idea what this damn
thing
is .
.
. ah .
.
. the
only
thing
I
can
say with any clarity
is
the.
. .ah.
. .there
is
a.
. .ah.
. .ah.
. .what appears
to be
a
radar site very close
by.
I
don't... I
don't have any
idea what this
is.
That's all
I
have
to say.
#66
OK,
fine.
Let's draw the perceptions you've
had,
then.
#1
It's gonna take
a while
to draw all this stuff.
OK,
on Page
1,
I'm gonna
do
an overall
impression
of how
all
this stuff
is laid
out.
I
got sort
of
an
impression
that there was
a... this arrow being North,
it 'Id
be true
North,
that there was this.
. .ah.
. .first
I
thought
it was
a
road,
a concrete
road,
but then over
to... ah... I
think
it was the left side,
there was
a parallel
road;
it was
much narrower
so
I
got that,
and
I was cruising down
this
thing,
so
I
got the impression
it was
a.
. .ah.
. .probably
an
airport runway
of some sort,
pointing.
. .ah.
. .North
Northeast,
and up here
I
got
an impression
- way up here
to the right
- there's sort
of
a indented harbor type area
and
a coast
line that went like
this.
And.
. .ah.
. .in this
area directly North
of the runway
I
got
an
impression
of
a... a promitory
of rock which has what
I
call the radar
site
on
it.
And then South of that,
in the dotted box
area,
is eventually where
I wound up
at what
I
call the
target.
Now,
there's
a
lot
of other stuff
in here,
you
know,
and
I was
just flicking through
it very rapidly.
I
got the impression that
in
this,
what would be this page,
scale wise,
contained
a whole
lot
of
other things,
and
I
might have been getting flashes
of .. .ah.
. .triple A sites
and.
. .ah.
. .ah. ..tank parks,
and.
. .ah.
. .billet area type
things,
and
I'm not too sure
it was all within this dotted
box,
you
know,
it might
be within the peripherals
of
this.
. .this area.
#36
You... you mentioned
a city.
. .ah.
. .somewhere at the... ah...
#1
Oh.
The city surrounded this... this
like harbor type
area.
We'll call this
the city.
And,
there were some
other,
now,
some other towns,
there was
a.
. .ah.
.
. I
' 11
call
it
town,
I
don't have,
you
know,
the
idea of size or any-
thing.
There was one back here,
and.
. .ah.
. .you
know,
quite
a few little villages like along the coast,
but...
but these two
w'ere probably
the most significant cities.
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#36
I wonder where the villages are...
#1
Down along this coast,
there.
. .there was like a... ah... for
lack
of anything else,
we'll call it
a coastal road.
I
got
the impression that... that this area,
which
I 'll... I' 11
draw black
lines through.
. .ah ... let
' s hash mark
it.
This
area where the hash marks are,
I
got the impression became
very,
very rugged,
and behind me to the rear,
probably the
South Southeast,
were... were mountains
of some sort.
Not
very big
ones,
you
know,
just mountains.
If you could
call
a mountain standard,
there's standard mountains
to the
South Southeast.
And jungle,
quite
a bit of jungle back
there where the mountaiins were.
#36
Were the cigar shapes inside the box or where were they
relative to all
of
that.
#1
Inside
the.
. .ah.
. .hash marked box.
#36
OK,
we'll talk about that
later,
I
just want
to know where
it was.
#1
Yea.
And.
. .ah.
. .this.
. .now,
this hash marked box might be
larger
or smaller,
you
know,
I
don't...
#36
But that's just symbolic,
that kind of...
#1
That's the general,
yea,
that's the general area
I'm
gonna talk about.
I
don't have any idea of perspective
of size here
on
this.
And this
is the coast.
Now,
Page
2.
I'm gonna,
realizing this may not,
you
know,
I
don't know what
to call the target
in this particular
session,
so
I'm gonna
do
it all because you may want
it
all,
OK.
I
got
a... the impression that
I was standing
next
to a... some kind
of
a large trailer and this trailer,
to the right.
. .ah.
. .should have went down
like that,
had
a... ah... cat walk type afair with
a metal flooring,
and
steps coming down
to the ground,
like this.
And there
was.
. .ah.
. .like a... a framework
of pipes supporting this
mess,
and concrete footing.
This
is really very simplistic
the way
I'm drawing this;
it was far more complicated.
You
know,
there was.
. .ah.
. .you had all these cross pieces under
here,
you
know,
like this,
and up here was
like a... these
things coming
out
to support this like framework back here.
I
don't know exactly how all this junk went.
There's
just
this mass
of pipes,
you
know,
and this was like
a trailer
here,
and then supported
on this mess was
a.
. .ah.
. .some
kind
of
a squared platform type afair with
a cross hatch
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a very
large banana type dish that also had all
the supporting pipes and crap coming out
of
it,
like this.
I
don't know how to draw that.
#36
Did you say banana shape?
#1
Yea,
it was
a big banana shape thing.
Ah... if
I were
to
draw
a cross sectional
of that
or look
at
it from the
other side,
I'll
do an
inset here,
it would have looked
like.
. .ah.
. .this.
That kind
of thing,
OK.
But that's
close up.
Page
2 ,
when
I backed off from this mess,
that's
a door
on
Page
2.
Oh,
and around this whole thing,
on
Page
2,
there was.
. .ah.
. .like
a fence.
Like
a chain
link
fence
of some sort.
It's like
a chain link fence around
this whole mess,
and
I'm not sure
it was really chain
link,
but that's what
it looked
like.
Page
3.
When
I
backed
off,
went up to about 200 feet and
backed off about
1,000
feet,
I
got the impression that
this... this device was sitting up here like this
on a...
sitting
out here like this,
all by itself,
like a... like
a promitory
rock,
there's another road coming away from
it,
and that.
. .ah.
. .there were low hills here,
this sort
of
thing,
and
the.
. .ah.
. .coast was way
out here,
and that
the.
. .ah.
. .air strip was,
well,
the air strip was back
here,
and over here was the tube type target.
Now,
for the hard part.
The first impression that
I
had
was.
. .ah.
. .this silver cylinder type,
and the reason why
I
say silver was,
you
know,
shining very brightly,
and
there was
like
a flatter type thing
in the front
like this,
and there appeared to be something that looked very much
like
it laying
on its side like this,
and there was...
ah... here's where
it gets very complex;
appeared to be
some kind
of tubes coming
off
like that,
and.
. .ah.
. .there
was
a... some kine of
a tube like thing coming off here,
and
I... I
don't know where all these tubes are going.
Had the distinct impression that's what they were.
It's
like these two big
or three big vents coming back this
way with some kind of
like screen type stuff over them,
and these went up to
a squared area,
like that.
I
got
the impression that there was some kind
of corregated
metal wall under
that,
and that there was like a... a lot
of angular impressions,
like this,
that was,
you
know,
was
all like steel reinforced concrete.
You
know,
walls
of
steel reinforced concrete.
Ahm...this is
a very simplistic
view
of what this appeared to be.
Oh,
back over here,
there looked like this thing that looked like the front end
of
a tractor
like,
and for reason,
I
got the impression
of
engines,
you
know,
call
it
an engine device.
And... ah...
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this
is
a very simplistic impression
of what
I was seeing.
It was
far more complex than this,
and.
. .ah.
. .this
,
which
I'll label
A,
is the one that
I
attempted
to look into,
OK.
I'll try to show you what that appeared to be... ah...
looking down
on
this,
getting
a dotted outline of this
tube,
it's supposed to be round by-the-way.
So
I'm not
very good free hand.
Looking down
on this thing,
the first
object appeared to be something that looked just exactly
like
a baseball.
Now,
I'm gonna put an arrow
to
it and
bring
it
out here and draw it better,
OK.
It's
a round
shaped object,
and
it had this kind
of impression
on the
side,
just like
a baseball wraping,
and there were large
silver screws going around,
just like
this,
and this was
seated
in
like.
. .ah.
. .some form
of
a socket type affair,
which.
. .ah.
. .appeared now to be something
like.
. .something
like
this.
You
know,
I
don't... that sort
of thing,
you
know,
sort
of
a socket type thing.
And then,
under that...
that mess there appeared to be
like.
. .ah.
. .these stacked
tanks,
and.
. .ah.
. .they looked
a
lot
like.
. .ah.
. .this
is
just an impression now,
like
a diver's tank.
Some kind
of
a storage tank of some sort.
#36
What
do you
mean,
a diver's air tank?
Yea,
like an
air.
. .air .. .air.
. .ah.
. .tank.
And,
in this
whole mess,
there's
like.
. .ah.
. .this stuff.
This...
ah... black spaghetti like stuff,
maybe wiring
or something.
And,
I tryed to look through to the bottom
of this thing,
and
on the bottom
I
got an impression. .. I got
an impression
of .
. .ah.
.
. just
a black circle,
and then
I
get an impression
of
a black circle with concentric rings with
a hash marking
like this over
it,
OK.
And this thing
had.
. .ah.
. .this
whole melange
of things coming
out
of
it.
I
don't have any
idea what this thing
is.
I
don't know how to draw
it
better.
#36
It looks quite.
. .quite involved,
quite complicated.
I
only
have one other question.
Ah... I have
a note here that you
mentioned something about
a buried
or semi-buried concrete
shaped...
#1
OK.
Let me
do
a layout from the top.
This will be
Page
6.
Looking down
on the top
of this thing,
cylinder
A,
larger cylinder
B,
would appear
to be some form of cylinder
laying
on
its side
is
C,
and... ah... I
don't
know exactly
how all these walls went.
The vents,
corregated walls,
some kind
of engine device.
Back over here are three
distinct mounting pads
of some sort that are empty.
I
mentioned them because they may be significant
in,
you
know,
orienting the... the drawing
or whatever.
These are
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