#01:
....See
a
. .A
person
. .attempting
reason
at
all
the
way
to
end.
B
person
is
. .threatening,
. .very
threatening ,. .stomps
out
of
the
room
issues
threats
and
leaves.
A
person .. .apparently
frustrated
but
not
. .doesn' t
appear
to
be
threatened,
just
frustrated
at
the
. .inability
to... agree.
Get
an
overall
taste
that
a
agreement
is
necessary
to
. .stability
somewhere,
but
it's
a
very
. .oblique
impression,
it's
like
more
political
stability
than
. .factual
It's
like
a.. splitting
of
command
or
something.
See
some
involvement
of
other
people.. in
the
talk.
Each
brought
other
people
to
. .aid
their
arguments
See failure
of
the meeting.
#66:
All
right.
I have
a couple
of questions
for you.
#01:
Okay.
#66:
Focusing
on
person
A,
and
only
on
person
A,
describe person A
to me
.
#01:
Small
. .a
dark
skin,
black
hair,
silver
in
hair
. .thick
mustache,
. .very
well
dressed .. .Wait
,
he's
a .. .scratch
the
mustache,
there
is
no
mustache.
It's
overlay,
it's
got
many people with
him
that
have
those,
but
he
doesn't.
...Has
a... very
disciplined
appearance
Delicate
hands,.. even
though
he's
the
one
threaten,
I
think.. he's more dangerous
than
B
.
.
. .more cunning.
#66:
All
right.
A
is
recognized,
is distinguished
by
a
characteristic
.
#01:
Just
a minute.
#66:
U .S
.
Intelligence
would
know
A
by
this
description,
by
this characteristic.
#01:
Keep
getting
something
about
the .. .about
the
face
Keep
wanting
to
say
scars,
but
I don't
see any.
#66:
Okay.
Just
run
through
your
description
one
more
time
and
see
what
comes
up.
Just
take
a
look
at
him and
just
give
me
a police
like
description
of
him as
fast
as you can
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Short,
5*5",
black 'hair,
dark
skin
and
silver
in
hair.. he's
got
glasses
. .wire
rimmed
glasses
. .a
light
frame,
. .some
pock
markinqs
on
the
cheeks.
That' s
all
I get
#66:
How old would
you
say he
is?
#01:
.
. .44
or
.
#66:
You
say he
is well dressed?
#01:
Very disciplined dresser,
yes.
#66:
All
right.
\
#01:
Wears
a closed collar.
Don't
see any
tie though.
#66:
Now
I have
one
other
question.
During
the
initial
phases
of
this
meeting,
you
described
discussions
surrounding
further meetings.
#01:
That's correct.
#66:
This meeting
then deteriorated
away
from some
sort
of
an
agreement.
My question
is,
do
you
perceive
a
further meeting,
a subsequent meeting?
#01:
Just
a minute.
#66
:
I will wait
#01:
I
see
a
. .meeting
with
a
..counter
proposals
. .10
days,
weeks
from
the
first
meeting .. .but
in
a
different
location.
See
it
occurring
in
a
place
. .chosen
by
A
. .person
B
is
absolutely
essential
to
A,.. in
some
way,
his
capacity
to
provide
something,
. .something
esoteric
For
the
first
meeting,
A
is
unwilling
. .to give what
he has
to give.
#66:
Who
is
it
that's unwilling?
#01:
A
.
.
. .think
there's
a
mutual
distrust.
B
has
more
distrust
for A
than A
for
B.
And
B
is willing
not
to
give what A wants,.. for
a price A
offers.
#66:
And
the subsequent meeting?
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:
# 01 :
# 66
:
# 01 :
# 66 :
# 01
:
# 66 :
# 01
:
# 66
:
# 01
:
# 66
:
# 01
:
# 66
:
Things
will
be more
fruitful
.
.
. .See
a
result
of
the
. .subsequent
meeting
is
going
to
cause .. .wait
a
minute,
I
lost
it,
just
be
cause
for
great
violence over
the
second meeting.
Okay.
Take
a moment
to
collect
your
thoughts
and
try
to explain
that
to me again
.
Try
to,
just
a
minute
I
just
see
like,
I
see
a spark
of .. .violence
occurring
as
a
result
of
the
second meeting
All
right
Just
this
ignition
of violence
Okay.
The meeting
is
described
as
having
fruitful
results
.
That's correct.
Results
also
include
some
spark
of
violence,
some
act
of violence occurring?
No.
Results
of
the meeting .. .generate violence.
All
right.
That's
good
the word generate,
results
of
the meeting,
generate violence.
That' s
correct
.
Okay.
Can
you
break
out
the
term
violence.
What
is
the
raw data perceived?
..See
like
a
. .time
period
of
pause .. .and
then
a.,
just
a
spark
of
violent
action,
explosion,
exploding
into
violent
action
all
over.
I
don't
know how
to explain
that
Okay,
that's
fine.
Okay,
we've
covered
an
encounter
between
A
and
B
on
the
26th,
today,
May
83,
a
meeting
and
then
a
subsequent
meeting.
I have
no
further
questions,
but
I would
like
you
now
to
explore
on
your
own
.
Take
a
few
minutes
now
to
explore
on
your
own
beyond
the
confines
of
my questions
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#01:
It's
like
the
first
meeting
is
. .all
maneuver
.
. .feeling
each
other
out
. .lot
of
pushing
and
pulling
to
see
limits
of
each
other
.
To
B,
the
second
meeting
is
a
.
. .more
f ruitf ul
.
.
. .That'
s
all
I get
.
#66:
All
right,
fine.
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