Approved For Release SspbrofipRdra-RoP9s-00788R001 900540001-3 TAGPA-F-SD 03 July 1984 MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - HU-1069/8404/01 (U) 1. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) On 210930 March 1984, source #01 was interviewed by monitor #66 concerning the location of an individual identified as William F. Buckley. The project 8404 sponsor had provided a photograph of Buckley (see Incl 1). 2. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) For this interview source was provided a coordinate and a designated time and asked to focus his attention on the events he perceived. Source was not told of suspected activities. No other identifying data was provided to source. All other information was withheld for use as feedback and cuing for possible subsequent interviews. 3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared (see Incl 2). 4. (U) <A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the sponsor. This report related the salient points of the interview. Attached to the report were drawings provided by the Source (see Incl 3). Association with the below named individual and Military Intelligence is CONFIDENTIAL. SG1J 3 Incl as OPS/TNG Officer NOTE: Information of immediate operational value was provided to Sponsor immediately, or as soon as possible, after the interview. CLASSIFIED BY: CDR, INSCOM DECL: OADR WARNING NOTICE ! CENTER LANESPECIAL ACCESS PROGRAM RESTRICT DISSEMINATION TO THOSE WITH VERIFIED ACCESS CATEGORY — 43. er) em ca Toney an MATICT SES Se WOT RELRLSSE Approved For Release “SECS RE eee tone a000" -3
Approved For Release 2000/0108 “Cia REP 96-00788R001900540001-3 TRANSCRIPT HU~1069/8404/01 #66: This will be a Center Lane Interview for 3/21/84, time is 9:32 A.M. We now at plus 10 minutes. We have reduced voltages as would be expected at this point. We're just about ready to begin. All right now, continue to relax, continue to relax and concentrate solely and completely on the area, 33 degrees 53 minutes 54 seconds north 35 degrees 28 minutes 25 seconds east Focusing on this point 16 March 1984. 33 degrees 53 minutes 54 seconds north 35 degrees 28 minutes 25 seconds east on 16 March 1984 and describe your perception to me. #O1: Very .large...hesitate to call it a building, it's like a warehouse or a factory building. There's a lot of clutter. There's odd shapes all around it. #663 And your perspective as you observe this? #01: Ah 800 feet top right corner looking down. #66: | Characterize the area surrounding this building that you found. #O1L: See a long narrow, narrow ribbons of concrete, a lot of dirt, open and cluttered at the same time. Give me a second. #66: I will wait. We're now at plus 16 minutes and we have voltage reversal, holding at 20 microvolts reversal. #Ol: Fences within fences, buildings,....area off to the Side is..... some form of ah..raised earth and clay, construct (bumps) (mumble) #66: The buildings in this area, what's their general type of construction and coloring? #Ol: naan Cinder block, tan, very simplistic. MAM DET TAC ETT Sry TAT TT IE MAST OMATS P96-00788R001900540001-3 7T.,/ 2 Approved For Release 2000/08/08.-.£ r at
#66: #O1: #66: #O1: #66: #01: #66: #O1: #66! #01: #66: -RDP96-00788R001900540001-3 All right let's move from this point on 16 March 84, let's move in time to our second location which is a specific building near where you are now. Are you ready? Just a minute. All right, I will wait. -All right, move now from this area to the front ground level of the building known as the Menara Building, to the front of, aon the ground, the Menara Building. Move now to the Menara Building, in front of, on the ground, the Menara Building and describe the Menara Building to me. It's (mumble) under ah projection, flat, and there's some curve to it, ah..portico type entry, Seems to appears to be two levels of glass, vertical lines. Describe your position as you observe this. Standing on a wide walk, concrete. All right, back away from the front of the Menara Building, 50 feet, back away from it, 50 feet from the front and looking back, and describe the Menara Building to me. ...Ah I get an impression that I'm seeing a...a rather wide area in front, that's not really as wide as the entire building, the building's much wider behind the front section, ah...like a..short end of a "T" shape. There are many buildings in this area, we wish you'd focus exclusively on the Menara Building, the building called the Menara Building and describe the front of it to me. Protective roof overhang,...see "L" shapes in the Front,...front, horizontal or linear pattern. ...See some kind of a star shape,...kind of like a cross, an equal cross. Getting an impression of vertical lines, black vertical lines. Okay, let's get you up off the ground. Go ahead and float up off the air so that you're not having to look at the building from the ground, float up in the air and look directly at the front of it and describe it to me.. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001900540001-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 ; GIARDP96-00788R001900540001-3 #01: #66: #01: #66: #O1: #66: #O1: #663 #O1: #66: #O1: #66: #O1: ~-Still keep getting impression of large areas of black glass,...-. squares. Continue to let the image resolve. -Tall section of it, I guess, jutting out, ah like comes out of the middle of the building. . Just keep getting, I'll put it in straight terms here, ..squares reflective surface, like metallic or black glass, reminded of shields, term shields. Okay, how many stories do we have, how tall is this building? Tell me about your difficulty, if you're having difficulty. I want to look put it in stories and I can't. Okay, tall, short, multi story, single story. ~eeees MUlti story 4, 5 floors, but I keep wanting to make it shorter. I think it has something to do with the design characteristic, that exterior gives an impression of stories due to design, but it's not in actuality what it contains. Okay, we have a multi story building with reflective glass squares. It would appear to be adequate. It's got a flat roof, there's like protrudences, there's some kind of small nodular type things in the roof. Okay. There is a, on these places where the reflective glass are, on these multi story buildings, there's something that's really unique that would help me feel better about this on the, ah..you know dealing with the glass and these front portions, see if you can focus on that and tell me what is kind of unique and different about these. ce eeee ..--Getting ah....it's almost ah...well it's an impression of girders with ah, I keep getting a cross or "L" shape pattern mixed with that. I get ah...like I'm looking at the butra stata on a strip of concrete. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : _CIA- -RDP.96-00788R001900540001-3
Approved For Release 200 Ay #66: #01; #66: #01: #66: #O1; #663 #O1: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-0 RDP96-00788R001900540001-3 S,(/ mae a Okay. I don't want to waste anymore time. here. Things that I reviewed some pictures of this building and the things that I see with my eyes may not be the same things you're perceiving. We need now to examine this particular time window on the 16 March 84, so I want you to find yourself a comfortable place to observe the front area of the building and tell me when you're ready. ..... wees Now at plus 27 minutes real time. All right from your position of observation, focus your attention on O800 hours, on or about O800 hours, 16 March 84, local time on or about 16th, 8 o'clock in the morning on or about 8 o'clock in the morning on 16 March, 1984. Describe your perceptions to me. sees seeceseeeeelL See ah..(mumble) couple cars parked, like off to the side. ..... There's..... see someone coming out of the building with a.... leather case.....turn left. Stop. Describe person with leather case. Short, 5' 4",hair heavily tinted silver, ah..a little on the heavy side, heavy I want to say mustache or bushy, with very bushy mustache, wearing a dark gray overcoat, ....age approximately 51, or 52..glasses. Okay, remember him and continue. Ah.....see someone get out of a car and talking. See car door being opened for him. He gets in the car, person gets in the car behind him. They drive away. I don't see any ah, don't see any evidence of ...e. see three people in peripheral...standing off to side.....one across the street, two of them in front of building. Bracketing car, other than that, I don't see anything else. Okay. Tell me about the car. Describe the car to me. ceeeeeeeeCOompact size, four door,...well, let's not, let's say it's full size, because it's a little larger than compact, but not as large as one of our full size cars. It's black, it's gray interior. Ah....fairly new, but not really of modern design. 0788R001900540001-3