DP96-00788R000800240001-8 Everything. The room was nondescript and there was like just row after row-ef what seemed to be floor. I didn! t see pargitions between them. I just saw. . we Then ere was another row over here. Same things faybe two feet inbetween Just really close together. A111 along the whole ' width or length of the room. That's what I saw. PAUSE I was sure these people were sleeping. I'm sure they were. The room seemed darkened. Then the hallway, again, the hallway that led to it was very narrow. Seemed unusually narrow for a hallway to me. Maybe four feet; five feet. I'm not terribly good at dimensions. It was, let's say narrow. And, the door, that went into this room was at the end and it would be facing you at the end rather than on the side like that. (Not audible). 766: Okay. So you perceived it obviously to be a room at the end of the hall versus a room off the side of the hall. #49: Yeah. And it looked like there was a carpet. One of those Persian carpets with a red background along this hallway. = I didn't see much more than that. Oh, it was darkened. But you could See. PAUSE The guy was . . seemed to be standing like right around in here somewhere. He had on this white kind of flowing thing like a white sort of full sleeve, like tied in with a rope or something here. It seemed like he was standing like that. Holding onto a bar of some kind. I sort of think it might have been - I don't know why - but there would be like a waist high bar. #66: Along the wall? #49: Like a... ballet bar. That kind, yeah. #66: Okay. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-R 8R000800240001 aan aoe pier mnie seen oer copay marpepene gt Lg errr ee er en nent et ET ote ee a hgtntteltennen Jag oc ent wee ess nna nine nt nse eta at seam nie ate
#66: #66: #49: #66: Approved For Release 2000/04 P96-00788R000800240001-8 Protruding out from the wall somewhat. A couple of times (not audible) standing like that. Okay. Looked very nervous. He was looking this way. Towards the door. I thought he seemed very tense. Um hm. PAUSE This . . The hallway seemed to have that paneling too. Dark, like dark wood or Okay. Really beautiful wood. I saw it throughout the whole building. PAUSE I remember seeing at one point, right towards the beginning that mirror, that gold filagree thing. I don't know where that was though. I just saw it against a wall. Okay. PAUSE (Not audible) of the rooms that I was in, did I get into any area that seemed like a big open area. I mean like a big open . . living room or sitting room like I did before. I didn't see anything like that. There was one room that seemed to be like a . well, I don't know if this will be worthwhile. The guy that was standing at the round table. I don't know what kind of a room that was. I didn't get the feeling it was even a room. It was like it was out in the open somewhere. Just a f nondescript area - there was a bright light on ( .it seemed. It seemed like he was looking down at this document. \ Okay. 6-00788R000800240001-8
3 Approved For Release z0fD O67 TOIR-RDPSE.00768R000800240001. #49: #49: #66: #49: #66: #49: #66: #49: #66: #49: #66: Approved For Release 2000/ And there seemed to be, like I said, some activity. PAUSE I didn't get anything outside at all. I didn't pick up anything. You didn't get any feelings about anything outside. Just didn't seem to oo I feel like there was somebody like there was some activity. Nothing... not much. I just got that feeling. Impression. Okay. I didn't get anything on the roof. I wasn't picking up anything on that. Okay. You. . . I want to make sure I understand your perception. You were unable to obtain any information about the roof or the information you obtained is that there's nothing going on on the roof? I was getting an awful lot of clutter. I wasn't getting anything clear. But I wasn't .. I wasn't getting any image . . . When I was focusing on the roof .. . the roof, generally I'll get some sort of images, something, you know. I didn't get anything. And you had no images when you tried to focus on the roof? No. Right. All right. Um hm. PAUSE Oh. . . I can't think of anything else. Okay. The . . Now, as you looked at this room where you found many people from time to time you seemed to perceive individuals. . within the room. Tell me a little bit about that experience. AD P96-00788R000800240001-8
pam emer gem Tee aN FS CS Te TOY te * Bi Approved For Release 2000/88/07 C1A-RDP96-00788R000800240001-8 #49: #66: #49: #66: #49: #66: #49: #66: #49: #66: #6. #49: #66: #49: Well, its nothing really dramatic. Its really funny. One guy around in here some where, its as though he was sleeping and he was looking up like this a couple of times as though he'd been awakened. Definitely looking this way, you know, like he was startled or awakened by some- thing. Okay. The other one I saw - that was the young fellow (not audible). Okay. The other one was an older fellow - sort of looked like (not audible) sort of had that look. I would say in his 50's maybe. It was as though all of a sudden I saw him, you know, focused on him and it was like he had sat bold upright. (Not audible) Okay. That's interesting. But he had glasses on and if he had just been awakened, he definitely had glasses on. But he had black rim glasses. And I just caught him (not audible). ce Could you recognize these people if shown a picture? I would recognize the fellow with the glasses. I might recognize the guy who looked up. He looked like a lot of guys of that age group. I would definitely recognize that one I saw at the very beginning. But I just got a flash of his face. Okay. That one at the very beginning is not one of these people It could be the guy looking up. I'm not sure. Could have been. But you definitely had an impression, very strong impression of the first one, when you were just generally looking at the area and this is when you told me that you see kind of these faces over The first thing I got, right. 13 — a4 % Approved For Release 2000/08/07.:-CIA-RDP96-00788R000800240001-8 _
Approved For Release 2 #66: #49: #6.5: #49: #6.5: #49: #6.5: #49: #6.5: #49: #6.5: #49: #66: : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800240001 -8 Over the top of the crowd. The crowd, I... I... am interpreting as clutter. But yeah, I did, I saw several faces and two or three sort of stood out. Its the first time I've ever gotten such strong images. But this man's face seemed to TURN OVER TAPE (Not audible) put that on the drawing. I didn't . . I don't know where it was in connection with the rest of the house, I just saw the stairs and I.just trying to focus on where the room was. Um hm. And I got the impression it was up at least one flight. Your concept that planning was going on, can you expand on that at all? Why you felt that way. Only that I saw, this one fellow too, is all that I saw. . . ata table, lot of light, and he was looking down at this, or he appeared to be looking down at this paper and I just got a feeling of . . . some sort of business thinking, you know, some sort of activity he was planning, or some—_ thing he was really concentrating on. No weapons? Possibly on that guy in the hallway. Um hm. Well, again, its an impression. I didn't see it. PAUSE Okay, that concludes our questions. Is there anything that you would like to add in general about this session? Any impressions you feel that you'd like to add about this? PAUSE Fi “nae ts-»_ » -Approved-For-Release-2090/08/07--ClA-RBP96-00788R000800240001-8"
UD ERR RATER) POEL RENTERS ay NN A EE AAR fC Approved For Release o/06. 7 # CIA-RDP96- 00788R000800240001 -8 #49: Not for the session itself, only, you know, when I could conjure up (not audible), I . that's . . I think I've said everything that I really got from the session. #66: Okay. Approved For Release 2000/0 $°56-00788R000800240001-8