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I
am. .uh. .Following. .. .slipped
in
time..... I
see
them moving
to the end
of the hall
in
a line.
I'm
not getting very
good focus tonight.
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#66
Take your
time.
Take your
time.
PAUSE
#66
# 24.5
#66
Tell me more about the location.
I
feel
that. .uh. .this place
is. .uh. .familiar place.
Golonade.
.
. the door
at
the end.
The. .uh. .offices,
the stairs down
to
a lower floors.
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Is
it. familiar
to you because you viewed
it before?
Yes.
This
is. .uh. .. .hallway
out. .is. .familiar. .the
only difference
is that
the arches and colonade
appeared longer and narrower
than before.
But,
I
am
very
sure
that
it is..uh..a place
I've been
Let
me
try
to get into people.
PAUSE
I have a..uh..a
short. .uh. .shorter than other man
heavier,
older.
He
is. .uh. .wearing
a
light framed
glasses.
. .a. .uh. .slight double chin ... (mumbling)
his
face.
He
is
(mumbling)
hands right
(phonetic).
He has
a closer very
light close crop,
salt
and peppery
but mostly white hair,
slightly
round
face.
I
can't
get
a proper image though.
Just piece mealing
it.
#66
What's happening
right now at
the location?
I
think
I
' ve. .uh. .frozen them
in
time there.
. .standing
there.
. .hands behind
the back
as... feet apart.
. .they
' re
..uh..just standing.
I
feel
they were exercising or
are exercising. .uh.
. I
don't feel that they are..uh..
being presented
to anyone,
or anything
like
that.
#66
From where you
are,
look
up,
and describe what you
see.
PAUSE
Rather .. uh .. somewhat higher ceiling room with..uh..
a couple
big. .uh. .tilings like
a
(mumbling)
thing
...from theceiling
to
I
think along
this
long place like chandeliers or something.
I....
also had a..uh. .a feeling
of . .uh. .something that
looked like
drape,
tapestry
. .flowing curves and things,
thick. .curves.
The ceiling
is maybe.,
only
30 feet
or so and
it appears light
colored.
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.
#24.6
Are you
ready
to draw
those
impressions?
Yes.
First impression
I
got
in
the session.
I
had
the feeling
I
was looking down
in the
roof
of
the
building.
I
didn't get
a chance
to say
this because
I
was still acquiring the target,
but,
I
had this
feeling that
I
was looking down
on
a... well
I
did
say,
as
a matter
of
fact.
I
said that earlier
I
really
,.a funny shaped roof,
very curved.
It was black,
and
I
was looking down
the roof
of this building,
and
from what
I
could see where
I
was,
I was right over
the'
building,
or maybe
I
was behind
it,
but,
from what
I
could see there was
a
flat
roof protruding from each
side.
Like
this.
This might
go back.
I
don't
know.
These were flat
roofs here,
on
each side
of this peaked
center
thing.
It was
a big structure.
This is all
I saw of
it.
It was
a bl ack
roof.
It was
like black
t i
in gT
’I t had this slgrTlfTreaQtajrve down
^fcffeT'center line
it wasn't
it wasn't
a
retjtktar
/
normal
peak,
you
know. .. .normal angled peak.
It w^s
a
curved peak.
Some sort
of
a large building,
it certainly
dp
Some
p-ffl arrH.
1 n fega
f
Ok.
Then
I
had
the feeling
I
was inside,
ok,
looking
at
a series
of
fluted columns which made arches,
or
held up arches.
Some sort
of
a cap stone.. like
this.
I
had
the feeling there was more recess behind
it.
I
had the feeling of possibility
there was
a
...some sort
of
a
line.. as
though there was
a step
or
two... very
small
step
or
two here.... and the man was stan...I
think
there were
like
a group of four
or five but all
I
could
get was^ ^fn 11^
r
p
n r^
of §
And this was inside,
now.
The
roof~trsm^s over
t^is
.
An
inside area.
I
had
the feeling for alot
of
til^flooring,
smooth floor and everything,
and
I
had,
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head
of what was "a
v
of people echelon
and.. they were
like. .uh. .you
know,
they were
like,
here,
ok and then
there was one standing back behind him who
I
think was
the next... I
think that was
the next
guy
that
I
described
...who was
it.... that's not
really
the scale. .. (mumbling)
Like
that.
This
guy was standing back
a little bit closer.
Both were.... they all were
in shirt sleeves. .uh .. these
two anyway were
in shirt sleeves.
This guy had
a
little
bit
of
a paunch.
I
think
there was another
guy
here,
and,
I
think
there were
two more here,
on
the right
side
of him.
Then standing
in front
of this group looking
this way was another
guy
and
I
would say
that both he
and
the
guy
over here were holding weapons,
or
had rifles
of some
kind,
weapons
of some
...or rifles of some kind
or long
things,
and he had his back.... this is the
face
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right,
ok... this
guy
is closer because he's
in
the
foreground .
.
. so
.
. ok
,
and
that's
just
the
back
of his head.
. .notice he's dressed more
•
darkly
.
.
. and he's
looking this way,
they're looking
’
'
this way.
I
had another
guy
over here.
Sort of
standing catty-corner
to look
at
them and
then^
filleted,
I
guess that's
the right word,
...he's
,
.
over here looking at them this way,
ok.
in this group here,
you have several distinguished
areas
there.
Can you
tell
me how many you think
in
the group
that you saw were
in
the role of being
hostages?
#24.5
Five.
Four
to
five.
have question marks.
These are
the only
two here.
I have two that
was
really able
to
see.
I
think they were
in
a pretty
regular
V with
our
guy Ahern
in the front with
another,
shorter,
heavier,
older guy
to his right.
I
think there was another guy further along,
and
I
think there were
two on Ahern's left.... wing
back. .. .winged back.
#66
So
y 0U can't find
an individual
count but just as
a flash look
at
the group you'd
say
four or five.
#24.5
Right.
Right.
# 66
Why don't. you
tell
me what you're moving into now.
#24
Ok.
What
I'm moving
into now is another view from
the
end
the
left
of
two
try
to give
the
feeling
of
this dammed. .. .what appeared to be long
colonade ... I
kept calling
it
or long hall....
ok.
. .remembering that this is all
in
a building,
right
there's the roof over top
ceiling....
now,
along this.... this is the feeling
I
had.... at
least there were... steps
just these couple steps
on
the left
side.
Like this.
Ok,
and had these
fluted columns here.
. .coming up like
this.
All the
while
I was
in here
I was getting impressions of
exercising
of
a couple
of
these people sitting
on
these steps that went
you know
drifting back
and forth
in
time
but when
I
first got there
I
had the feeling
of this kind
of stuff .. .exercise.
.
.
waving their arms around and all that kind of
stuff.
Then,... I have
to keep
remembering
I'm not on
video tape here.
Then... other times when
I was
sitting there
trying
to get
to them
I
had
the feeling
of
a.... one individual sitting,
leaning with his back
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against
the base
of ono of these columns. .. like
in
a break
time.
.
. .tim\ to rest.... you know... and
then other points
otfner
times,
I had
the feeling
of
them standing
at res^
as
I
said,
one time standing
'
with
their arms behind
ttteir backs.
. .urn^. now,
that
sort
of shows
the feeling\there,
I
gusss.
So we end
up with.
. .person here., is
fe maybe. ,,4'how do
I
do this.
Person here
is
a maybe.
Tile
guy Jflith sort of
a paunch
here.
. .that's not sort
of
aXpaupfch,
that's hell
of
a
paunch,
isn't
it.
Anyway,
theje,
like
that.
Then we
end up with who
I
think
is AlWrn,
is his name.
Is
standing
out front
here.
Andlthen
there will be
another
guy back here,
and another
guy back here,
like
that.
The little circles indicate possibilities of
other people.
Facing him is
a* man
and
then here,
this
guy
on
the
left
of
two
is actually
in my back.
Like that.
#66
So three
is
just
a redrawing
of two
from
different
per ^pfydniiiMia
I,
.
,
-
m
•v"*<
#24.5
It
is.
But
I
want to show you
the other side
because it's
a double hall.... the thing
I'm getting
at here... is
that
it
is
...I
did have
the feeling
that
this colanade
thing existed
on
the other side
in.... in
a double layout
ok
you see what
I
mean.... that
it was concentric.
#66
OK.
Now,
-when
you were viewing
this,
and
I was
listening
to you
I
found
it hard
to conceive
of
such
a
large area
to
be inside.
So this
is why
I
asked you
to look
up but,
again,
you keep
reiterating that
you had
the definite feeling of
being inside.
# 24.5
Yes.
I
had
the definite feeling
that
I
was
inside.
At
first
I didn't think
I
was inside,
but
later
on
I
began
to
feel
that
I
was,
you
know.
At
first,
the
first fleeting thought
I
figured this
is some
sort
of
an outside place,
but
the more
I stayed and
concentrated
on them the more
all
the rest
of
the
stuff came
in
from the sides and showed me that
I
was
inside,
in
fact.
So
don't
know what
to
think.
I
think
I
was inside.
I
think they were
/inside.
Like
that.
Uh..the place that was familiar
/fto me was
the place
were we
ran the missions
to get
/
to
.
. uh . .HOLLAND ... ok
....that's what was so very
*
familiar about
is
uh
that's what
I
thought.
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Finally,
by
the
time
I
had gotten through with
the
whole thing that's when
I started talking about how
it was familiar
to
me.
Except that this access here
was longer
than
I
recalled
it from one of
the other
sessions,
but,
still
the layout of
the place is very
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#24.5
#66
#24.5
#66
#24.5
much
like' it.
Now,
when
I
started
to walk them
away
in
my imagination ... .when
I
started
to walk
them away,
they
went
through
a door
at this end of
the hall
at
the foreground
of three,
and they went
downstairs.
Which
is
just
a precise layout
of what
I, pulled
out of
the HOLLAND thing when we first
started.
Way back six weeks
ago,
four, five
weeks
ago.
So
,
what you're telling me
then,
is you feel that
you recognize this place as being the same place that
you'd found COL HOLLAND when we worked that session.
Right.
Remember,
that information
is
four weeks
old.
You told me to go up
to the ceiling.
At
the ceiling
I
just got.... you
know.... this rehash,
but
in
the
foreground hanging down
in front
of
my
again,
from what
I
thought was
a domed ceiling,
but
not... not super high.... not cathedral high.... not
eet high,
but
like
feet high.
Like
a large interio
type
of
a place was this... so,
if you can imagine
looking down
from
a ceiling point. .. .from
a ceiling
view.
Now,
being up at
the ceiling the chandelier seemed to
block your
view.
Right.
These things hanging down
like this.
There,
like that
If
I was
to show you
a picture
of
this other individual
that
you
saw do you think you might be able
to recognize
him?
Well.
. .uh.
. .uh.
. .yes. .. .1
could
try.
I
think
I
could
try.
The other thing is..uh..I
can give
a comparative
description,
anyway.
The
guy has
got.. ..he doesn't
have
a butch haircut but he's got his hair cut up high
on
the sides of his head.
You know what
I
mean.
He
doesn't have
a butch,
doesn't have
a
flat
top,
but he
has his hair
cut
up
high
on
the sides
of his head,
and he has sandy white hair anyway.
You
know what
I
mean.
#66
What's
referred
in
the military as having white side
wall hair
cut.
#24.5
No.
It would be white sidewalls
if the
guy
had black
hair.
You
know.
Dark hair.
He's
an older guy...
or
60,
55ish ... 50
55,
I
think yes,
all right.
Not
white side-walls but the complicating issue
is the
fact
that the guy doesn't have anything.
. .there' s no
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#24.5
That type
of
framed glasses.
tone
there,
lie's
lirjh t haired.
Like an older fellow
who has light hair,
ok,
or
lie's graying and he's got
white side-walls ta-boot
and
so
it's.. ••you
know...
it's
just
very. .uh. .> ou
almost wouldn't think
he had
hair
on the side
of his head.
You
know
thing.
Not wired rim glasses but light
You know.
Light
toned.
Light
tan
or
light brown,
and
.
. uh
.
. like
I
said,
I
could
try.
His body.. you know
.
he's
a couple inches shorter than AHERN, ^1
gu ess.
stockier.
. ..He's
. .he appears older
know.
I'll
try
to figure
out
I
thought,
if
it was anybody,
You have anything else
you would
impressions
of
the overall
sessions?
Yes,
. .concerning
the impressions.
I'm tired.
I'm
tired
out.
I
don't
know what
the quality
of
the
session
is.
Towards
. the
end
of
the session
I
started
feeling pretty sure about
it.
At
the beginning
of the
session,
I
just didn’t know.
I wasn't getting very much
at
all.
Then,
I
really had
to work.
Once
I
started
vibrating everything started
to clear
up
uh.....
I
think where
I
was
is
in
or
very,
very
similar
type place where
I
was before.
Now,
here,
at
the
end
of
the hall... the
othej^jeacLof
the hall.... the back
in
the foreground of.th'f ee
or
the
capper right
of
four
... .1
guess
you,. can
call
it thaj^4^.ok.
.
. .Had
the
feeling of double lightj^
doors.
There
s
this thing
contmg-^ri^
just sketch
it
quick.
Double,
light
tan wooden
doors,
and this
is some sort
of
a partition
or wall. .. .double. •• .light.
• .doors.
Again,
like
I
said
and. .uh. .that' s about
it.
#66
Anything
you want
to
add,
then?
#24.5
No.
Just
to re-emphasize
that. .uh. .activity
that
I
was picking up was..uh..it seemed
to be exercise
activity .
Controlled,
reasonably organized
jesticulations.
raising arms overhead,
bending
at
the waist,
that
type
of
thing.
That's
it.
#6.5
Ok.
I'm going
to
show you
some pictures #24.5 and you
go
through them all and pick
one,
if there
is one.
ok.
#24,5
There's no mustache
on him,
and
no glasses.
This
guy
was wearing glasses andhad
a
GI
type hair cut and
didn't have any mustache and sort
of paunted,
but
then
•
he was
in his T-shirt,
you
know.
He was shorter.
I
said
he was shorter
than
the other
guy.
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#6.5
How sure are you
that you think this
guy
(mumbling)
You know.
70 percent sure
it
u/as him or
10 percent,
#24 .'5
Well,
it's
on
the
tape.
#66
No.
Now,
that you have looked at
the picture what
•do you feel?
#24.5
I
will say that
it was him that
I
saw.
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TARGET CUING
INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV) SESSION CC47
1.
(S)
The viewer has been exposed
to open source news media informa-
tion as well as classified overhead imagery.
He knew he would be working
against
the hostaqo situation
in
Iran.
2.
(S)
At
the time of
the session,
the viewer was told that he would be
trying to locate Thomas L. Ahern.
The viewer was shown the attached
photograph and was asked to locate and describe the surroundings of the
individual
in
the photo.
ADMIN
NOTE*.
Sessions CC46,
CC47,
and CC48 were conducted at
the same time
with different viewers,
in separate
rooms,
targeted against the same
individual.
Your attention is invited to Sessions CC16 and CC17.
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