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Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : rN 788R000500300001-4 SUMMARY ANALYSIS | REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-77 “4, (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted Rete USI, ce with a request for information on a target of interest to Pee 2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor. 3, (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated. 4, (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing information provided the renote vicver. i = =SG1A 5, (S/NOFORN) This session was done concurrently with Session D-76. am, S37 me FQ NOT RELEASABEEY N_NATIONALS a ee Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIAGRDE6-00788R000500300001-4
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA4RU TIME #66: #O7: +03 #66: #07: +05 #07: #665 O73 #66: #07: #663 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP95; RO00500300001-4 SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-77 This will be a remote viewing session for 1000 hours, 10 October 1980. Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate. Focus your attention now on J whose picture I have shown SGiA you. Focus your attention solely and completely on i! Holding.your focus in present time, right now, present time, 1 loca‘ ll Locate — now and describe his surround- Sh ings to me. PAUSE I sense that he's, uh....he's somewhere within the, in this room, looking around for another...can't focus on him right now. I sense I'm, uh...several floors above... ground level. That's fine. Just relax and concentrate. Don't feel you have to report to me until you are sure that you have located him. I will wait. I see a bed over there. PAUSE I've got him in a...seated at a table.....shirt off.... tired.... His face looks like...apartment rather than... rather than hotel... What is it you're experiencing that makes you say that? Decor...decor seems...extreme for,..commercial... Seems more personalized. Describe the decor to me. Very busy paper on the wall, with predominantly blue, and some yellows or tans. There's a mixture of both...there's old picture frames that...fancy, but pieces of crystal that are graceful and modern. Tell me more about his immediate surroundings, directly SG1A close to 500300001-4
( Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-9§ §0300001-4 +08 #O7: +16 #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #O7s +14 #66: #073 It seems, uh...not to be, not to be in street dress. Much more casual. Could, could, could be sleep attire. Sitting at..enear left end of small table, maybe 5 by 3 feet... I keep tryin' to make this a..ekétchen or dinette, but 1 only see table, no tablecloth...table, some kind of Melomine product. I keep looking at his left hand for some reason. I feel he might be left handed. Sit down at the table vith Toke a moment to relax SG1A and concentrate. Sit down a e table with HJ and SG1A then tell me more about your surroundings as you sit at the table with him. PAUSE That Fouled me up, the whole thing is changin’. Just relax and concentrate and describe the scene to me. Table is, appears to be brown rather than light tone... appears to be longer, and there's, uh...someone else at the table about....3 to 4 feet to his right. There's someone on my side, over there... But..efeels like a fourth, uh, one, two, three...a fourth person is..-someone in the vicinity where I am, which is roughly straight across from him. It's a brown table. the heigate is still...appear to be several floors up. Uh, I'm looking through a window, and I see light on buildings or something way over there. Tell me about the room in which the table is located. Sit at the table and tell me about the room in which the table is located. Where I'm sitting I'm facing a wall that has aeeel think windows or openings of some kind. Forty-five degrees to my left straight ahead is a..sl Keep seeing straight through into another space, like there might be an opening or an "L" shape there that...like there's another space in there, another office... And straight, the end of the room to my right is a small gtandard...uh, it's about 35 inch wide door... There's aes. tan...».covering on the wall that is a...some kind of a, it's not paint, it's some kind of covering on the wall. Wains- coating up about four feet, three and a half, four feet... comes in a light brown. I'm, uh, somewhere, some reason I'm seeing a seven and a six, not necessarily in that order. And I saw the letter "G"... Focus now on I and describe his activity to me. SGI1A He...Sitting very quietly with a pencil. Seems to be doodling,
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : cin ROE BA foso0so0001- ~" SGA +18 SG1A SG1A SG1A _— +24 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-0078 #07: #66: #O7: #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #073 #663 #O7: uh, you know, uh... He...not committing himself, he's quite listening, almost sullen...not, not, not pleased with...gomethin'....eeee- Got a....grayish wool like mat- erial, uh...I guess it's a coat or jacket or somethin'... G1A Move closer now to Closer and closer now to and ask where he's located now. Ask FEB where he's located. SGI1A Just a minute. PAUSE By god, he's shrewd. He's not even thinking about...present events. With what is he concerned? I'm sorry, what? You say MD is not concerned about present events. What is ME primary concern? Thinkin' about...someplace outside this room,...somewhat agitated...stalling....-. Oh, I'm supposed to ask him where, where, where, where he iS.essseee I'm seeing what looks like a....some eastern Mediterranean...but I don't think I got that from Nim.sceeseeees That's funny, he won't look at yaee- I'm gonna try again. PAUSE God, he's like a wall...ealmost as if he's got no brain, he JUSEceveccccvcecserovseres I'm having all kinds of trouble with this guy, but...I hit him several times, and I got a word. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. It does not agree with the imagery I had. I had a body of water that looked like somewhere near the eastern Mediterranean. I kept asking him where he was, and to give me something would identify. I got the word "Frisco". I assume that's San Francisco...+e. Before you had stated that he was concerned so much about where he was now, that he was thinking of something else, another place. Yes, he was thinking of....of people, and, uh, wintertime. Someplace there was snow, I just assumed that it was, uh, either northern Europe, or, uh, Soviet Union in the winter- time. He seemed to be tryin' to appear obstinate...tryin' to wear somebody down, till they turned and made concessions to him. Obes 300001-4 pA
mene Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-007 #07: #66: #07: +35 #66: #07: #663 #07: #66: #07: #07: +40 #663 BBR CDUD 380001-4 4 But I feel he's...not in a position to assume that they will...seek a compromise with him. He's not very intuitive, but...has a strong, brutal, survival instinct...stubborn... There appears to be three different approaches, uh, ideas here. His is only one...and I don't know what it is... All right, just relax and concentrate for & MOMENL.crceseevers I want you to hold the picture of I want you to hold his image in your mind now. Move through this facade of J move to —~~immiggg Move closer and closer and call him by his given name, and tell me more about his activity.... What's his given name? PAUSE Il sense a...a strong relationship with, uh...engineering types...strong inquisitive, uh...interest...in things that look like they...very well machined. It looks like...has to do with some optics, at least I see...some optics...that could be a, that could be a..einterpretation based on my personal interest, but... You were talking before aobut how stubborn he was and that there seemed to be three positions. Move back to those ideas and question Aleksey about this. Let's see, that's today, isn't it? Yes. His activity now. Okay. He's left the table. He's, uh...over near the wall. PAUSE Has something to do with dissemination of, uh...of informa- tion, uh, approach, how it will be handled...how much, and ...two present, and what tack will be taken... Either some- thing is going to appear in a publication or...something's gonna appear in publication, or...something that, that has already...been publicized... 'Trong, strong, strong concern about...the impact..... Have the feeling that the infor- mation is out, and there is concern for...redirecting interest, or...clouding the issue...deception... Go now beyond his concerns and his emotions, beyond the deception to the core issue, and ask him to explain it to you. PAUSE 8 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : Cla-ADP96-00788R800800300001-4 SG1A SGIA SG1A
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-QQ4sa #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #663 #07: He's, uh, thinking about the inside of a...some kind of big production plant in...heavy production, not, uh...not, uh..enot the clean atmosphere you might expect with elec- tronics or something. I'm seeing, uh...thought maybe 1 wandered, I don't know where I got this... I thought I got it from him, but...inside of a heavy production plant... noisy... It all, I...raw data without interpretation. I looked at the inside, it looked like a giant room, very high overhead, lights hanging down some distance from the ceiling, where I couldn't see the ceiling... Area broke up into corridors by bulk heads that stick up...6 to 10 feet, like production lines. Okay. So- I moved outside, and I could not see the buildin'. I, I, I don't know why. Okay. Rofocus now. Refocus back on BMJ -Relax and_con- SG1/ centrate while I turn the tape over. Refocus now on SJ an SG relax and concentrate while I turn the tape over. A very specific area of a ese activity that we're Wy interested in, very speciticarea. As you focus on | 1, moving closer and closer to Ill ask him about his con- cerns with radio. Ask him about. his concerns with radiO.sscoaes Okay....l started seeing all kinds of, uh, little items, which I assumed were components of some kind, but...then I got an image of a..eelike an inverted cone. It symbolized to me that he is concerned about, uh, what I would interpret to be something like down link, something beamed down... that all came from the...transluscent inverted cone that I SAW eevee Can only say that...concerned about incoming transmissions, at least I'm seeing it from the receiver end. Unless some- one has got a giant antenna that...has whipped the scatter problems and focuses a very tight beam, because I'm seeing this energy column from the big end, which I interpret to be receiver end, or at least opposite the transmission end.... What is the nature of this concern about this? PAUSE There seems to be something about a....l don't know...same- thing about a repetitious pulse that...-has extreme variables for it's pulse. I don't understand that. I don't know if it's...continuous....continuous variables in..eamplitude or frequency within each repeated pulse. I'm seeing...I'm seeing crude graphics. .which....it's diagramed as a...a linear stack of cones, based to apex. 5 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788 7
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-007% $0001-4 #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #O7: #66: #O7: +40 #66: #O7: Okay. (Mumbling) curde mental graphics...no...no symbols for precise identification...mental concepts... All TIQGNT. ccecceuees One, two, three...I'm, uh...-elooking at a graphic that looks like a...a stack of narrow wheels or something. There's, uh, looks like there of 'em about the same diameter then above that are some more that are slightly, uh, smaller diameter.... Oho. Are there any words associated with this? I was looking for words, uh...numbers, symbols, uh, anything that give me a clue. And I was just getting stuff almost like dumb doodles, a doodling feeling could account for the repetition. I don't know. No...-looking for anything that ..-give me precise identification. Okay. Let's approach the problem in a different way. I'll tell you what I'm lookin' at now is a..-looks like a three foot crystal rod with gold or brass metal tips on it. Just wanna get rid of that. .Go on ahead with your question. Okay. Rather than efforting the question of your imagery concerning words, I want you to let your imagery go and just relax and concentrate, and reach out and ask your greater self for an intelligence explaination of the imagery you've seen. Just ask that open space out ther in your mind, ask for an explanation of theimagery you've seen, and describe the answer to me. PAUSE The variable is frequency...... With the results I been havin' I feel that this is...an effort to jam, scramble... or the reciprocal of that...to...descramble.....work through jam. Wait a second. The strongest thing I get is that...extreme variables in frequémcy, changing in a relatively short time. I can't imagine what for...I kept getting flickers of... frequencies...so I determined that the area we're interested is at....extremely high frequency rather than extremely low, Okay. I have no further questions now about the target. If there's anything you have to add before ending the session please do so now. I could not get a response, a recognizable response or con~ tact with this individual. 6 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-0078
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RBS a #66: #07: #66: #073 #663 #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: 94900300001-4 How do you feel about that? I felt as though he was afraid someone in the room...he felt vulnerable to someone in the room and...was trying very hard to keep from telegraphing his intentions. It was almost like running up against an invisible wall. 1...could not even get eye contact. All right. Anything else? All I could get when I would ask him questions was...vaque, crude...not very well thought out imagery. That's, uh, about, uh, about it. Okay, fine. Let's prepare to draw the images you've had then. Okay, now, uh, during the session time when I asked SGIA you to locate uh, there were sev-, several opinions you had but you seemed to finally settle down on a room with ' a table and he was sitting at this table. Can you tell me something about this room here in this sketching? Well, I thought there was a window or something that looked like a window, like a mural or something. How do you spell mural? M-U-R-I-E-L, or something like that... Um, there was tan wall with a wainscoating up about 4 feet, and it was darker at the bottom than it was at the top. Um...there was two big chairs over here. There was something in this corner over here somewhere, but I couldn't make out what it was. Uh, that's the upper right corner, piece of furniture or cabinet or something. There's a door to the right... Mm—-hmm een «there. Uh, this is the table where I felt he was sitting. I sat down in this position here- Put an "X" by the chair where you sat. Okay. He, he was in one, I felt I was in two- Okay. Three, four. So you were in position two, then. Yes, I was in position two... Okay. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-R Pt ‘43 Fe 00300001-4
ee Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDRRS #O7: #66: #07: #66: #07: #66: #O7: #663 #07: #66: {f07: #66: #07: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP9 And I didn't get a chance to figure it out, but I felt that the fourth person was somewhere around where I was sitting, and this disturbed me, and I wanted to examine that, but some reason I kept concentrating on and I never did SG1A. figure out whether I was sitting on the guy, or just what was happening there. Okay. But there was someone real close, very, very close to me, extremely close. Uh, there was something looked like a desk over to my left, which I have indicated here. And there was some kind of a piece of furniture or something on the wall behind him. This is the area I said that I didn't know it was a big door, supposed to be a door there, looked like an open space or an "L" shape goin' back in there. Okay, this is to the upper left of the page as we look at it then, a open space. Mm-hmm. Now you had some, you spent a considerable amount of time saying that this was a brown table that he was sitting at, it seemed to change from before. Well, when I first had him I felt. I was, when I was ina position of, let's say about five, and all I could see was- I wanna put a dotted line across here- Mm~hmm. I could see him and the corner of the table.on the other side of the dotted line...and I guess because I saw an apartment I was trying to put him in a dinette or a kitchen or a dining room, um, and I thought the tones were lighter, and I thought the table was lighter in tone than it appeared later. Okay, at that, at that time you were just focusing on him, and then I asked you to sit at the table. Is that when it changed? When I s-, when I sat at the table it changed. I became aware that under my arms was brown. Okay. Uh, and then I became, I didn't see, but I became aware of a presence over to my left facing me, in the position of three. And I thought, uh-oh, maybe this place is full of people. And I started looking around, and I felt there was probably two more at the table, and I felt one was extremely close. I never examined any of these people, except I found, felt that one was in a dark colored garb, blue or blackish. #0500001-4
#66: #O73 #663 #07: #66: #07: #66: #073 #66: #07: #663 #07: #66: #07: #66: #O7: Okay. Uh, a: felt was in a thick material gray, wool like SGIA heavy textured... Okay. Kinda sloppy. He later moved over to somewhere, first I saw him near the window I thought, and then I saw him kind of lounging. with something like a. magazine in a...in...in the chair to the left. Okay. I started examining, uh, what I thought was a carpet or something on a floor somewhere there, and I asked myself is that in this room, is that the other room, or where am I? And something happened, I never pinned it down. Anything else? No, uh, there's no other drawings that I really need. Uh... how did you feel in contact with Did you feel con- SGIA fident that the things that were going on while you- No, some people I work close to 1 feel...so intact with I almost feel like I'm that person. I find myself wondering, you know, am I saying this, or is that person getting the information, or- it's so close I don't even know. This guy, like I was sitting and watching and observing and... trying to get through to him and getting no response what- soever. Qkay. I was getting mental images, but I didn't know whether they were mine or his, Okay. Do- do you sense a hostility on his part when you tried to penetrate him? I felt he more hostile than definitely on his guard against telegraphic gismos or feelings. Before the way you explained that to me...did you mean that he was on guard because of ther people in the room- -or on guard against you? I didn't think he, I, I don't think he ever knew I was there. And I can usually tell, but I didn't think he knew T was there. I felt he was on guard against them, and he was Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000500300001-4
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