Approved For Release 2000/08/08: i bH96-00788R001 900440010-4 ‘ CER IAGPA-F-SD 13 January 1984 MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - HU-1057/8314/01 (U) 1. (S/CL=-3/NOFORN) On 200900 December 198%, source #01 was interviewed concerning personnel and activities within a building unknown to him. The project 8314 sponsor had provided a photograph of the building (see Incl 1) 2. (S/CL=3/NOFORN) For this interview source was shown the photograph provided by the sponsor and asked to focus his attention on the building. Source was not told of the suspected activities in the building. No other identifying data was provided to source. All other information was withheld for use as feedback and cuing for subsequent interviews. 3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared which included drawings provided by source (see Incl 2). 4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the sponsor. This report related the salient points of the interview. Drawings were not included in the report because source reported having a very bad headache after the interview and provided the drawings several hours after the interview. The drawings do not appear to accurately reflect the salient points of the interview and would have been confusing to the sponsor (see Incl 3). SG1J 3 Incl as OPS/TNG Officer CLASSIFIED BY: CDR, INSCOM DECL: OADR a (% RoOU ER ben ROE ee ¥ 5 oe OE r Approved For Release 2000/08/08 :{Ci/
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#663 #01; #66: #01: Approved For Release 2000 Mtlos:! Cin Approved For Release 20091, Bl ~CIA-RDP96-00788R001900440010-4 oe 4 inet ig i] vel bey TRANSCRIPT HU-1057/8314/01 This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0900 hours 20 December 1983. Relax and concentrate now. Focus your attention solely and completely, accurately, all your effort, all of your awareness on the building in the photograph I've shown you and describe the target to me. eee eee eeee Ah...large section of warehouse, storage ATEAS ss 200s large rooms....... Impression of,...just a minute........ area has been converted to meetings, normally a..conference like area but it's been converted some way for meetings with 5 or 6 people. -It's on a second floor area. »Bunch of living quarters on the ....(mumble) partially living quarters on the ...second floor and a..most all of them third floor. wc ere eeee Trying to get a feel for the building itself. Seem ec cee reece ences It's ah...things temporarily stored here,...that are purchased and are being transferred somewhere, ..some kind of boxes with equipment. It's like a corporation or a ..-buying, selling place, a place that buys and sells, kind of enterprise. All right. Let's focus on the present time, right now. Describe the personnel in the building. pace wesccrv evenness -Ah...mix of people, two different kinds. ‘People who normally work there and there's people that are, don't have anything to do with the building that are staying there, from out of the country. I just get an impression of travelers. Predominantly the people in the building who work there are..dark skin, black hair. People from out of the country have a...a little lighter skin in some regard but their features are heavy. Ah..... two languages being spoken. One is ah...ah...one is English, the other is ah...some dialect of Spanish, I get an impression of Spanish or it's a very guttural language in any event. Ah....people from out of the country are staying there. They're to...ah. what do you call it...ah...they're like information stripers, they take information, ah...focus on information....ah....- I keep getting disjointed impression of these people. NOT RELEASABLE TO FORRIGN NATIOWALS DP96-00788R001900440010-4
Approved For Release 2000/08d #66: #01: #663 #01: #663 #Q1: #663 #01: #66: #01: #66; #01: #663 Bs LIM“RIDP96-00788R001900440010-4 Break out disjointed. Get a lot of subterfuge here. It's like a holding and transfer company and it's...when it's holding or transferring something, it's being photographed and sketched in detailed...... Just keep pictures of eo eeee schematics and manuals and electronic circuit boards. All right. Now, I have some questions. Okay. Two languages in the building, one English like and one guttural like-- Correct. ---two different groups of people,...connect the the languages with the people. Okay, just a Minute.  weseceeeees The ah...guttural language is common to the people there, that live there and the English is common to the people that don't, that are from out of the country. seeel still get something fakey about the people from out of the country that speak English, there's very heavy overlays of subterfuge there. It's like the people who own this building don't know who really these people are that speak English. They believe they are someone else. There's some other kind of function and what they're really doing. All right. Now, let's talk about numbers and ratios between the visitors from out of town and the residents. Okay. Resident people...... 20 to 22 resident people. Visitors from out of town are never more than 5. Seem to come in groups of 4 or 5. Kind of interesting word pops into mind, it's called "staging". Okay. Now I want to question about a choice of words here. You say come in groups of 4 or 5? That's correct. I infer from your choice of words that they are not always there in that building. Approved For Release Zooey peep Pss-00788R001900440010-4 2
Approved For Release coors ots eee corssnootaoossoote- #01: #663 #01: #663 #O1; #663 #013 #663 #01: That's correct. Okay, break out time windows, the usual times they're there in the building. Okay. .ecee coe eeees It's a normal ah...normal operation, it's like a...they get there on a... Thursday evening and leave on the following Monday, Wednesday evening or Thursday evening, depart on the following Monday. Apparently there's weeks that occur when there's no one there at all, from out, you know, out of country. »»e-There's some important reason why they have to be there on the weekend, but I can't fix it. Okay now, it's the visitors that spend this 3, 4 days of the weekend? That's correct. All right. And you call that their normal operation or their normal time for being there? Yes, that's correct. All right. .....eee-e It's almost like there's some form of a...training taking place as well. If I understand you correctly, concerning these visitor people, the words "subterfuge", the words "staging", the words "training" come to mind. That's correct. They're all interlocked, they're tied ....in some way. Ahhh..1I don't think the people who own the building are totally aware of the nature of these people. (mumble) it's like it's not part of the job to know. All right. Now, getting back to physical descriptions of the building, I'll later want you to draw a doll house of the thing. So describe for me now where in the building these visitors come to. veces .eeeelt's like rear...rear corner of the warehouse area or storage area, whatever you call it, and the third floor of the building. I don't. eeeeee Get a feel of the third floor is just a lot of rooms, like bedrooms, or sleeping rooms. aoe eee That's all I get, it's a..like sleeping area Approved For Release ORR Soreerentsoonsoones
Approved For Release 20QQ01BRU.Cl Asie P96 -00788R001900440010-4 #66; #01: #O6: #O1ls #66: #O1: #66: #OL: #6635 #01: and some kind of cleared area and a store room or something,..... things pinned to the wallboard and boxes and stuff, collapsible tables, some kind of EQUIPMENT.  waoeevovvcees Okay. Interesting, picked up on one strange fact here too. Somebody in the group is carrying a badge like a police badge or something. It's really strange. See like a hard piece of leather with a badge pinned to it. Somebody in the group is carrying that. Someone in the group? Someone in the group, but I can't...can't fix why. All right. Now I'm going to ask you to, later I will ask you to draw the routes and entryways, hallways and doorways of this whole building and particularly this meeting area. For now, however, I would like you to describe as these groups of visitors arrive at the area, for one of their usual meetings, describe their appearance, their deportment, how they look. cee eee eee Sport coats, without ties, open neck shirts, light blues, light clothing, light, everything light. It's either like white or off color white or tans and powder colors, pastel colors. AN....... Just get a very a....business like feel. They look like everyday businessmen? That's correct. ...Younger, younger than general, but they appear to be very business like, normal business man type person. All right. se eeeee And I'm am looking for a singular significant individual. Look at these visitors and see what comes to mind. Okay, just a minute. ...... eoeeesseeel don't get any major differences in any of these people. I don't see any significant visitor. ».e-See a guy with a...black hair evidently more senior and he comes with some of these groups. Combs his hair Approved For Release 2008803 7 CTR -RDP96-00788R001900440010-4 4
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : #66: #OL: #663 #01: #663 #01; #66: #01: #663 #OL: #66; Approved For Release 200 88R001900440010-4 with effecting those things,...information media. Ah... having effect on the information media. May I be correct in saying that because of the nature of your contact with him, that this is the way he feels about his job. That he feels that this is what he does is effect the media? That's the ultimate aim. Oh, that's the ultimate aim is to effect the media, all right. ; sees Cause a disruption by effecting the media. There's a lot of ways it's done. ....... There's still something I don't like about this that's not right. Something, there's an appearance here that's wrong, there's ah.....it's like a mission within a mission, and I can't, trying to put my finger on it, but I can't,..it's like what he's lending support to, these teams etc, etc,..the teams may. believe in what they're doing, but it's not really what they're doing. I don't know, they're, they're implying things that aren't real. Ah.......-lt's like the people that are hosting them aren't getting what they believe they're getting. They're getting a double wrapped package. The people hosting the visitors being the people in the building or in the general area? In the building. ......... You had said before that the people in the building didn't know what the visitors were up to? They know but they don't know. It's like they..... Are you saying there's a secondary or hidden agenda that they are not aware of? That's correct, exactly. And even the...a..the guys that are there, some of them don't even understand what that hidden agenda is, it's like they don't know yet. Okay. I want to try one more approach with this individual who plans or leads these meetings. Move away from focusing on him internally now and stand about a foot in front of him and look directly at DP96-00788R001900440010-4