SG1I SG1I SG1I #663 | | #66: || Approved For Release QE FREE Pee corssncots008s0001-s TRANSCRIPT yu-1o80/e4oa] | SG1l Okay, this will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0950 hours on the 20th April 1984 with[ SG1I okay] fas you have requested, I'm going to show you a series of pieces of information and that you feel you require in order to attain some attachment with the subject at hand. I'm going to do this slowly with your prompting. Okay. The first thing I want to show you is a picture of a missing individual, this picture is several years old and is the picture that was used to make his identification badge. So this picture is several years old. That is the picture used for his identification badge. Okay. ...++.I don't know, when I say I don't know, I have times, sometimes extremely hard .to put in, this person, when LI say apparently simply means that it is so, it's just the way that I'm speaking. | STAT Approved For Release SEG RET 900630001-3
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Approved For Reledeoypofog/frR Ea Fopss-co7esr001 900630001-3 STAT #66: That appears to be correct. SG1I ) . ,; ; Okay. I want this picture, and right now, please tell me if I'm wrong with you people, I am freezing, are you? #66: It's so cool in this building, but I'm not freezing, and I 've got short sleeve shirt. SG1I ; ; And I'm freezing. So I just want to make that note, STAT STAT I'm just giving you how I work, okay. #66: We understand kinesthetic impressions. #66: Okay. Now, something I failed to cover before we go on to the next is, our three principal questions are, where is he, how is he and who captured him or a Approved For Release SEC PEs Ire-ooreer001900630001-2 , 3
Approved For Relea 3 fisi(al Ff Rppse-o07ss001900630001-s various version of who captured him, who do we go see to get his release? Those are three primary questions.’ #66: Okay. The next thing I would like to show you is a picture that was provided quickly by the kidnappers, 12 days ago, approximately 12 days ago. There was no note, no ransom demand, just as though they were saying to us, we have this person. SG1I [| STAT #66; All right. STAT #663 Approved For Releaseeyppro{1p Peiferopos.co7ser001 900630001-3 4
SG1I SG1I #663 | #66: | | #663 Approved For Release aoriuiggead elafrpPe6-00788R001900630001-3 I also see a squared door and the houses are made of brick or stone and you would go into this house with something like this up. This guy keeps this thing going, instead of going straight up, straight into a room, it appears, when I go into my, I'm going to go in there and there is a window that I want to look through to give you some direction of where I am. All right. Now, I can't tell you which country yet, all I'm saying that these are the impressions that I'm getting. .eoeeee There's a small sentence that he's sending. ‘There are words that I cannot grasp though, but it's meaningful to you and the words are (mumble). There would be four, five words, six words, it's a short sentence. I keep he--he keeps repeating this and I don't know what this means. Can you sound it out and write it out? I probably will once I get-- That's fine. Approved For or Relea ob ishoa fare dis dope oorearoo1s00620001-2
Approved For Reiekroy Rogge Ferafrops6-007e8R001900630001-3 SG1I | | Okay. I know it's a short sentence, it's like a message, but yet it's,..it would mean nothing to any...if I was to hear it, it meant nothing to me. #66: But we may be able to find that out. Understand that he has been contacted in this means before and he may at the subconscious level now realize that he has link of communication here. SG1I | | «eeeel might ask you one question. What if there're children, what do you know. #66: According to our records, he is unmarried. SG1l | | He's unmarried. This, the reason I asked that woman came into mind, is there, do you know anything about that? #66: We have some information from before that he wants to talk about a woman, can you pick up any--? SGi1l | | It's something like, when you ask, Irene or Ina, or short again, something to that effect. Either it's a nickname or, I'tm giving you (mumble) by phonetics. #663 Yes. Approved For es at oy ad pibspo ros do7ssRoongooeso00" so” rd 9 : .
#663 #663 #66: Approved For reff FR Ech rove oo7s0n00100830001- Ask the question when I'm in contact with him more fully. I'm going to work by contacting within him primarily and then, cause this seems to be strongest link that I have with him now. Yes. He has previously wanted to talk about a woman.. I don't know if it's a romantic, but there seems to be some woman that he seems to want to talk . about. ween Question. Either, it's about the country or about him, but I hear a foreign language, does he speak a foreign language? We believe that he does speak a foreign language and he is in a foreign country. He may speak many foreign languages, or several foreign languages. Because foreign language came fairly strong. Can you get a feeling for the style of the foreign language, is it an asian language or romance language, guttural? Yeah, that will come to me-- Approved For ReleaSey oaksyife qfr-Rppos-007eeR001900630001-3 - 10
Approved For *SECRE [A-RDP96-00788R001900630001-3 #66: Later. SG1l | | --When you said gutteral, I get the cold feeling so let's reach toward that. eee eeeceeeAt one point, wherever he was, whether it's there now, I see myself high on a hill or at least what appears to be high on a hill, overlooking something below. Do you follow, if I was high, and then it would be like a city below or something to that effect. #66: (mumble). SG1I | | .eel'm just putting this together so, you know, because I don't what--- #66: I understand that you're trying to get your anchor, your. contact, so that when you go contact him--(mumble). SG1l | | Okay. What else do we have from this point? #66: I can now tell you where he was taken from and the date and that will at this time reveal the city. SECRET Approved For Release 2003/09/10 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001900630001-3 ll
Approved For Release 2362) fp fia-FppP9s-007eeR001900630001-3 SG1I | | Okay. The first, because of my contact with him so I can be personal and it's rare that I ask this, and I will, I want his full name so that I can pronounce it and if there was a nickname given to him I would like to have that too. #663 All right. I do not know about a nickname, however his full name is William Francis Buckley. He was born on the 30th of May in 1928 in Medford, Massachusetts. SG1I Okay, that's all I need to know. So, ah...repeat the name again one more time please. #66: Mr. William Francis Buckley. SG1I | | William Francis Buckley. Or sounds like the Buckley. Is he the same person? #66; No, he's not. SG1I | | IT didn't think I, okay, William Francis Buckley, okay I have it. #66: All right. : ead tO, Approved For Release 2003/09/16 is “RDP96-00788R001900630001-3