Deana RC cacao ee ECA EAE men i Btn een i og etna aes then SG1J SG1J SG1J SCI SG1I ’ 4 aes DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY 2 Gy e< 76 WASHINGTON, D.C... 20201 S-1168/DT-1 Minutes of the DoD Grill Flame Committee Meeting, 27 November 1979 . (U) The meeting was held in DIA/DT Conference room, 0930, 7 November 1979. (U) Attendees (see enclosure 1). 1 2 2. . 3. (U) The minutes of the 27 November meeting were approved as written. 4, (U) It was noted that due to a change in her position, will no longer be able to serve as a recorder for the committee. 5. (U) The next meeting for the committee was established for 10 January . . 6. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) MM informed the group that the Gale report had not been completed but Mr. Gale had agreed to-brief the group when it is completed. The best estimate for this was in a couple of weeks. a 3 Dr. Vorona will be in contact with Mr. Gale and will convene a meeting of the working group immediately upon notice that the Gale report is ready to be briefed. 7. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) QM questioned the substantive expertise of the Gale Committee. It was suggested that briefing the Grill Flame Working Group first would allow any erroneous or misleading statements to be removed prior to it being presented to higher level DoD officials. The working group was in full agreement with that position. 8. =(S/NOFORN/ORCON) Major Stoner then made several points concerning the Gril] Flame Steering Group meeting held earlier this month. The meeting was only for about 20 minutes and they agreed to not address any substantive issues until the Gale report is completed. 9. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) Major Watt briefed the group on INSCOM training and operational application of the remote viewing phenomenon. The program development, mission, and some of the recent results were discussed. 10. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) MM expressed his interest in finding a medical common denominator for persons displaying marked ability in remote view- ing. A contractor, Lovelace Medical Foundation, is available to interpret the medical data. tr oe LOW Sera ‘ . TOME GIR te my eyes sey MATION a —_ — . “B65 We ONY YAR. Approved For Release 2061/03/07 : CIA-RDP96- 6 ofFaanoonsa4 aaBRAFS TS ~, whe ST
~ ' "~*~ “Approved For Release 2001/03/07.; CIA-RDP96-00788R002000130015-1 wet wee Vee ee 13. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) Maj Perry Towles stated that within the Grill Flame area there is a need for one central oversight authority in the DoD with responsibility for all legal, medical, R&D and intelligence issues. It was suggested that DIA should fill that position. | ‘ EN ALERT ct She 14, (S/NOFORN/ORCON) Major Stoner informed the group that the Army is developing a new security protection for Gril] Flame data. 15. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) asics the group if any one had attempted to correlate psychic functioning with time of day. Recent research indicates that there is a 90 minute cycle of brain activity. Primary functioning is believed to shift from the left brain to the right brain and back on a 90 minute cycle. - 16. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) It was stated that the Grill Flame Working Group should accept the responsibility for the oversight of DoD and Intel- ligence Community activities. “A letter should be composed by the Chairman of the group and sent to each member informing the member and his. Agency of the responsibility of the group. In addition, all other DoD and Intel- ligence Community agencies should be informed of the working group's acceptance of the technical oversight responsibility. 17. (S/NOFORN/ORCON) The following motion was made, seconded and approved: , : a. Dr. Vorona is to be asked to contact Mr. Gale and inform him of the working group's desire and need to see and be briefed on the Gale Committee's report prior to it beifig given to any other party or group. b. It is felt that to do otherwise would be extremely hazardous as this group represents the collective expertise, experience and back- ground of the entire DoD and Intelligence Community. MGa + tale 2, ED KORR WG ot FAS POE TE Pe) ro) ie vi y wb eestor et Doge AAS EI Woe, AMG Goer Re Oy Pee Approved For Release 2001/03/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R002000130015-1 Sp CAL OLD UETE
“Approved For Release 2001/03/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R002000130015-1 18. (S/NFORN/ORCON) The discussions described in points 36 and 17 took place while the committee chairman was not present. Consultation with him reveals that his view of the Committee's goal and function is not one of oversight but one of coordination and liaison. A] committee members are individually responsible for the oversight of their pro- grams and for keeping their command hierarchy informed on alt} aspects of their program. The committée's primary functions are to provide a forum for the discussion of research programs, to coordinate research goals, to seek solutions to common problems and to permit the exchange of = ideas and information. 19. (U) The meeting was ajourned at 1500. , A navtr 7 4 Enclosures JACK VORONA ‘ 1. List of Attendees (U) Chairman, Grill Flame 2. CIA/PA 1tr, 30 Nov 79 (U) Committee 3. Viewing Magnetic Field Report (U) 4. Memo, 21 Sep 79 (S/NOFORN/ NO CONTRACT) msm - eT ome REE LS a is Se: 4 t SS Eosrne NOT REMUAGALO TO TORIICH HATIONALS ues NT abel rb cae Coot, tee eter rorcer LP LAA Eb METRE artis pen MPS TT Tg oo NOT PECEASEULE TO COV TACHOOS Sey STE Te St ee a OC On CC’ “a TRATION, Nethes th ALLIS Approved For Release 2001/03/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R002000130015-1
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