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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION DCC-83
1.
(S/NOFORN)
This report documents
a remote viewing session conducted
in
compliance with
a request for information.
2.
(S/NOFORN)
The remote viewer's impressions of
the target are provided
as raw intelligence data,
and as such,
have not been subjected
to any
intermediate
analysis,
evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of
the information provided is
the responsibility
of the requestor.
3.
(S/NOFORN)
The protocol used
for
this session is detailed
in
the document
Grill Flame Protocol,
AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol
(S),
undated.
4.
(S/NOFORN)
Following is
a transcript of
the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session.
At TAB
A are drawings made by
the remote
viewer
reference his impressions of
the. target site.
At TAB
B
is
target cuing
information provided
the remote
viewer.
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TRANSCRIPT
REMOTE VIEWING
(RV)
SESSION DCC-83
TIME
#14:
This will
be
a remote
viewing session for 30 June 1981.
Mission
time is 0930 hours.
All right #01,
this will be
a pre-mission brief.
Basically
the first part of our mission is
to determine
if those
vehicles portrayed
in
the photo and
the one on the drawing,,
if they
are one and the same.
Uh, another part of
the mission
is specific interest in this dish,
in this box.
Is that
an
accurate portrayal
of that particular system?
And further
requirements will come down
as we
get into
the session.
Any questions?
#01:
Uh-uh.
#14:
Okay.
All right #01,
the time is now 0930.
I'd like you now
to
compare
the drawing of
a vehicle with
the photo of some
vehicles
and
tell me are
these
two
the same?...
#01:
Just a minute
Okay,
there’s some,
uh,
differences
in
the vehicles
in the photo...
They're,
uh,
their armament
s
different,
different kind of rocket...
Some of
the crew
members are different.
There’s,
uh,
more crew members with
the photo vehicle.
Tryin’
to
find some hardware differences
and
I'm. .I’m finding
a great deal.
Think the,
uh,
vehicle
s
essentially
the
same,
only
the,
the dish is larger...
Dish
is larger
in
the photo than on
the,
uh,
the drawing.
And
I
don't see the,
uh,
the box where
it is in
the drawing.
It|s,
uh,
apparently
in
an integral portion
of the back
of
the dish,
mounted more
to
the center.
There's like
a piece of flashing
over it.. metallic plating of some kind....
#14:
Is there any connection between
the box
and
the dish?
#01:
Yeah,
they're fastened
together.
Dish actually plugs
in and
is,
uh
of this box unit...
Get like
a,
cable with
a,
uh,
six prong plug,
a very complex guidance system of
frequency emitter.....
It's,
uh,
minute...
I
keep wanting
to,
uh,
but it's not.
It's
a,
uh,
ground
There's
a... just a minute....
..bolted
riight
to
the facing
uh,
short section of internal
.
.
Has
a,
apparently
a,
not
some kind.
Extreme high
it's got like
a,
uh...just
a
call
it
a ground
to air role
to ground targeting device.
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What is it that gives you
that impression?
I see
the dish employed in
the line of site,
just shy of over
the horizon.
Okay, before you
go
in too far could you perhaps explain
a
little bit more what you mean by
a very simplistic,
uh,
apparatus
as far as
the dish and
the box
are concerned.
Okay,
I
see
a,
uh,
like
a partitioned sectioning in
the box.,
with
the front section that's partitioned out as
an emitter,
high frequency emitter.
Has a receiver section
that's
very
small.
Appears
to be
a,
uh,
very simplistic logic section of
some kind.
And that's all that's there.
There's a... some kind
of
a,
it's like
an override of some. kind,
it's
got a external
plug or connector.. that will,
uh,
override
the,
uh,
the
logic
section so these can be
treed together
like,
uh,
for one purpose.
Like a row of launchers can be parked side by side and all
directed
from
a singular command module...
What type
of information does
the dish radar provide
to
the
crew?
Okay,
just
a minute....
I
get
an impression
of,
uh...get
an
impression of armor silhouettes at 5
uh*
extreme distance
just
shy of,
uh,
over
the horizon.
Like for bad weather . .like ground
impressions.
I'm just getting like
a,
uh,
picture of an oval
or
round screen with a dye-on green line,
and then like splotches on
the line.
Just blocked areas on
the
line.
#14:
How many crew members operate
this vehicle?
+45
#01:
Uh,
it can be operated with four, but there's
a fifth.. a fifth
man.
I
think he's probably
the,
uh,
the commander,
the unit
commander.
Four basic operators...
It's like
a,
uh,
sort of
a
storage bin inside
the vehicle for additional rockets as well.
Appear
to be laid in horizontally
or width-wise.
#14:
Do you perceive any other systems
for targeting,
for fire control
and
so
on within this vehicle?
#01:
Just
a minute.
#14:
#01 :
#14:
#01 :
+40
#14:
#01 :
PAUSE
The,
uh...I
get
a. ..like
a feeling for some kind of
an
IR
type
device on an upgraded form of rocket.
It's like
a terminal
homing
device of some kind.
I
think it's
IR but I'm not sure.
I'm getting an impression
of,
uh,
like
a.. like
a gyro type cone.
I
think it's in one of the rocket types,
rockets.
#14:
Other than
the rocket,
focusing on
the
vehicle itself,
focusing
on
the vehicle itself,
is
there another
type
of guidance system?
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#01 :
+50
#14:
#01 :
#14:
+55
#01
#14:
+60
#01:
#14:
#01 :
Just
the,
uh . . the standard kind of,
uh... I. don't know what to
call it- periscopic type aiming device.
Like what's,
uh,
standard
type physical siting.
Looks like it's
in some form of a periscope
or goes through some oblique
type lens.
.Get an impression of
stepped hairs on
a vertical line that give indications of distance.
Then
a,
uh, bar type horizontal
line with markers indicating,
uh,
angle.
This rotates approximately 30 degrees left and right...
I
don't see any other kind of aiming devices.
It has no,
uh,
no direct tie-in
to
the,
uh,
the box and dish.
As if it were separate?
Apparently it's completely separate. .other
than,
uh,
I
think it's
used
for aligning basic acceptance perimeters
to
the.. so that
the addition on that can be used.
But it can also be used as
separate
I don't see
any other aiming devices.
It's all
just
a very rugged system..
Focusing back on the high frequency emitter- do you have any
perception of the frequency
of
this emitter?.....
Keep getting 40.
I don't know if that's gigahertz or.. how many
thousands,
but it's four-zero something.
Extremely high...
I
get like
a,
uh,
possibly
three different operating frequencies.
And
their optimum operating frequency
is four-zero.
And
then,
uh,
I
get like
a three-seven and
a three-five.. like 40 gigs and
35 and then
37.
Didn't get alternate frequencies..
I
get
a
feel for more power than is necessary as well.
I don't.....
It's like this thing is overpowered for some reason...
All right #01,
I
just have one final question on it,
I would
like you
to move
to a point where this piece of equipment is
operational and they're using it in
a test mode perhaps,
they're
actually firing it.
Describe how this vehicle's utilized...
I
got like
a,
uh,
get the feeling I'm somewhere
in East Germany.
I
got a,
uh,
shallow valley,
and there's a number of
these
vehicles parked at the end of
the
valley
on a bluff.
They're
oriented down
to
the back side
of
the
valley.
The launcher
is
like extended upward, but horizontal
to the
ground.
And it's
used
to,
uh,
to launch against,
uh,
just to launch against armor.
Getting a confusing feeling here.
I'm not like getting a feeling
for singular armored
vehicles.
I'm getting a feeling for numbers
of armored vehicles.
And
I don't, uh.».it's an anti—armor
type
weapon.
Okay.
I
have no further questions.
We'll pause at this time.
Okay,
for
. debriefing here.
The,
uh,
page one is a,
uh,
group
of three views of the launcher.
First view,
or view A is a
side
view, and B
is
the
top
view, -and
C is
the end view looking
from the
front.
Call it the end view front.
Uh,
the dish
is
somewhat larger than what was in the drawing.
And it actually
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#01:
affixes right
to
the front of
the box.
There apparently
is
like
a stacking of
two box units
there.
But the
top box
is
primarily
the
radar.
The bottom box is
a power unit, what
I
perceive
to be like
a power unit.
Something to
do with motors.
The,
uh,
dotted line
that
I
put,
or
the dotted line
in the- or
the dotted box that
I put on
the launcher that
I wrote "there
is no box here"
is
in the drawing.
Okay.
That's where
I
per-
ceive
the drawing
to depict
the box.
And that's totally wrong.
Page
two. is
the ocular
or periscopic type aiming device.
I have
a front view
A,
and a side
view B.
And
C
is like what you per-
ceive with your eye when you look through
the eyepiece.
And
what it
is,
it's
a circle oblique
that kind of rotates around
as you move your eye over
a plate.
. And
the plate has
got cross-
hairs with indicators of distance and
* But superimposed
over that is like
a box,
some kind of a box.
And
I perceive
_
that
to be like minimal
type
aiming, perimeters.
Like as if
in
order
to use
the
radar you have
to be within those perimeters,
or this is a minimum distance type of thing,
you know,
that you
can't operate
at less
than.. that kind
of thing.
#14:
Where did you perceive that thing on
the vehicle from the- like
on
the outside?
#01:
On
the outside?
Dead,
smack center front.
I mean,
if you drew
a hair dividing the vehicle,
if you looked at the
’vehicle from
the front and split it straight down the center this would be
dead center front.
You know,
up as high on the vehicle as you
can
go,
but dead center front..
Page three
is a view of the radar display
that goes with
the
radar box and dish on page one.
Basically it's
a split screen,
bottom half is
a light green haze,
top half
is
dark.,
Very
deep green line
goes all the way across.
And then there's some,
what appear
to be some form of radials
going out from
the center.
And
the
targets in the screen appear
to be blotches,
just blotches
of some sort.
Almost like noise splatter
or something.
And
that's it,
unless you
got any more questions.
#14:
I
can't think of any.
#01:
I kept tryin'
to think of,
you know... how this thing targets.
And
I
just don't get a. . I
keep .tryin'
to put the,
you know,
the
cross hairs on
the enemy
tank,
so to speak,
and
I
just can't
get that.
I
get columns of tanks,
or armor, and
I
just get,
you know,
just the general pointing of this
thing.
So there's
either
a smart rocket that it uses
that seeks out it's own
target,
or
. it's
a general purpose
type thing that just goes for
a kill area versus a kill item type thing,
'cause
of
the type of
employment or warhead or what-not.
That's all
I
got.
#14:
Very
good.
End of session.
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