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SUBJECT:
INSCOM Comments to Proposed DIA Memorandum of Understandinq
re
GRILL FLAME Program.
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1.
(U)
Reference:
DIA Letter,
S-1922/DT-1,
7 August
1980,
subject:
GRILL
FLAME Program.
2.
(S/N0F0RN)
Comments
re.
basic letter.
a.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
2:
It
is INSCOM's understanding at this time there
is little liklihood SRI will be prepared to administer
"new"
training technique
during
FY
81.
SRI
has done little formal experimentation
in "tracking" and is
ill equipped to examine physiological functioning.
SRI,
at the present time,
can-
not comply with
"full year's effort" regarding some aspects of Statement of Work.
b.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
2:
INSCOM funds are limited and are directed
toward sustaining an intelligence operational evaluation of psychoenergetics.
INSCOM cannot MIPR funds
to DIA without knowing individual costs of those ele-
ments
of the program that are
in support
of
INSCOM needs,
and without knowinq
which elements SRI
can realistically fulfill during FY 81.
c.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
3:
Nonconcur that entire first
year effort
should be
at
SRI.
In areas
of tracking and physiological monitoring,
SRI offers
no meaningful advantage,
particularly during critical first
year.
INSCOM funds
are intended to be employed where they can best benefit INSCOM's evaluation
effort,
regardless of source of external support being sought.
d.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
5:
A meeting of Action Officers was scheduled
for
11 Aug
80.
IGFP was never notified of such intent.
3.
(S/N0F0RN)
Comments
re.
Mission and Objectives Statement.
a.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
la:
Functions related to development
of a US ORV
capability have been placed behind the overall objective of threat assessment.
Elsewhere in proposal,
threat
is antecedent to development
of
a US capability.
Recommend para
la become para
lh,
and objectives pertaining to development
of
a
US capability be moved forward in priority.
b.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
le:
Recommendations
re.
GRILL FLAME Program
should be last objective
in series.
Recommend para
le become para
li.
c.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraphs
lh and
lj:
Recommend combining these objectives
in para
Ig,
as they are similar and must occur prior to final recommendation
and threat assessment functions.
d.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph JLb
:
Milestones for year #2 mention establishment
of
a cadre of fully trained ORVs,
but does not address prospect
of other non-
SRI
sponsored training.
Exploration of alternative possibilities must be
a
year #1 function,
and
a continuous process throughout follow on
years.
It
is
presumptuous
to assume SRI
has all there
is to offer and that
SRI
training
is
the only prerequisite
to achieving
"full qualification."
Such pursuit of
qualification must
be
a continuous and dynamic process,
not limited to sole source
procurement of training and development services at
SRI.
INSCOM recommends
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1980
SUBJECT:
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to Proposed DIA Memorandum of Understandinq
re.
GRILL FLAME
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term "fully trained"
be deleted.
The term "cadre"
is vague.
Recommend
a mini-
mum level
of personnel be cited to lend substance
to this milestone.
e.
(S/N0F0RN)
.
Paragraph
2c:
Milestones for year #3 include "apply all ORV
personnel
to real intelligence programs".
Who will provide these personnel?
Who
.will coordinate collection priorities and tasking
of ORV groups?
Are such per-
( sonnel
to be trained only
in new SRI methodologies or are they
to include those
previously trained?
What
is
proposed saturation rate of
tasking
to be levied
by DIA.
Will Military Services lose control
of their assets during this and
the preceding year #2 data acquisition effort?
f.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
2c:
If Military Service ORV personnel are
to par-
ticipate
in
real intelligence" collection activities from year #2 onward,
it
would appear
the milestone "training programs for ORV monitors..."
is more ap-
propriately
a year #1
or year #2 milestone.
Otherwise,
data acquired durinq
year #2 and year #3 upon which final evaluations/judgements are based,
will be
data provided by "trained"
ORV personnel functioning under the guidance
of
"untrained" monitor personnel.
g.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
3:
All experimental/testing design,
reports
of
progress and experiment results should be cleared by
joint approval of Action
Officers at
the GRILL FLAME Committee level,
not
the C0TR.
C0TR should monitor
day
to day activity
of
SRI,
but not have the authority
to unilaterally approve/
disapprove basic initiatives
or interpret results.
This procedure would be
in
more direct compliance with responsibilities of
the C0TR outlined
in the pro-
posed
MOL),
r
.
h ’
(S/N0F0RN)
Comment Overview:
As
far
as INSC0M is concerned,
the ob ieet-
lves and milestones as proposed by DIA represent a step backward.
The IGFP has
been training personnel for two years,
has been working
on real. intelligence
operational tasks for nearly
one year, and has been examining "variables"
impact-
ing on ORV collection for nearly two years.
IGFP has directed considerable
effort toward determining guidelines
for "best use"
of ORV since its inception,
and currently has
a data base of over 500 ORV sessions
of both traininq and
operational categories.
SRI was tasked during an earlier contractual agreement
to develop
a meaningful selection criterion
(ORV profile)
and essentially was
°f Providing little which was not already known and already utilized by
the IGFP
in
its early stages
of development
(refer report entitled "Special
Orientation Techniques",
SRI,
June
1980)
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4.
(S/N0F0RN)
Comments
re.
Memorandum of Understanding.
a.
(S/N0F0RN)
Unnumbered introductory paragraph
1:
In this paraqraph.
deter-
mination of hostile ORV threat
is placed antecedent
to the goal of determining
whether
a useful ORV capability can be developed.
This ordering
of
ob iectives
supports rationale cited
in paragraph 3a above.
b.
(S/N0F0RN)
Unnumbered introductory paragraph
2:
Recommend this para-
graph be included
in mtroductroy paragraph
1,
with wording as follows:
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to Proposed DIA Memorandum of
re.
GRILL FLAME
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14 August 1980
Understanding
"...SRI
International.
The GRILL FLAME Committee will seek
throughout
the first
year,
and continually during follow-on
years,
to examine capabilities developed by potential contractors
other than SRI.
DIA and the Military Services will maintain
state of the art"
continuity with psychoenergetics research
within
the US with
a view toward diversification of external
assistance support
if,
and when,
required by operational needs
of participating agencies/services."
c.
v
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(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
b:
Recommend addition of function:
*1
*
"(4)
Maintain continuity with state of
the art developments
in psychoenergetics research
in the
US and elsewhere
to ident-
ify alternative training opportunities."
d.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
b:
Recommend addition of following function
if
comments
of paragraph 3d,
3e,
and 3f above apply:
—
"(5)
Provide 0RV
(and/or)
0RV monitor personnel support
to
SRI experiments as required during years #2 and #3
.
e.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
c:
If comments contained
in para 3e above applv.
recommend addition of the following task:
"(8)
Establish intelligence collection priorities
for ap-
plication
of OR \l technique
to real targets
(commencing
in
year #2),
insuring that
the intelligence needs of each
participating service are met."
f.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
d:
If comments conained
in
recommend addition of following
task:
para
3e above apply,
"(9)
Provides verbatim transcripts of all experimental
0RV sessions directed against real intelligence targets
to:
(a)
The GRILL FLAME Committee,
and
(b)
the participating Military Service against
whose EEI or intelligence
"gap"
the session was
directed,
and
(c)
the participating Military Service whose
0RV personnel was employed."
g.
(S/NOFORN)
Paragraph
d:
Responsibilities
of
the C0TR listed here do
not agree with statements contained
in Mission and Objectives Statement,
para
(refer
to INoCOM Comment,
para 3g above).
INSCOM concurs with duties outlined
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INSC.0M Comments
to Proposed DIA Memorandum of Understandinq
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re.
GRILL FLAME
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in M0U with single exception that the GRILL FLAME Committee should be respon-
S1Ve :?of
1qMOM leS from other serv ices/agencies ,
vice
the C0TR as stated
in
para
d(8 )
,
M0U,
5*
(S/NOFORN)
Comments
re.
Statement of Work.
a.
(S/NOFORN)
Paragraph 2.1:
Army already has trained ORVs.
Is pro-
posed training to be
in "new"
SRI
technique?
If
so,
indications are the
"new"
technique will not be ready for another year.
SRI
therefore will probably be
unable
to achieve
P Y
81 training goal.
Refer comments para 2a above.
If
mpnf^ohni f!
olc1,
SRI
technique
is
intended,
it appears Army funding commit-
ment should be reduced,
since training of that type during FY 79 was siqnifi-
cantly
less manpower intensive
for SRI
than
the
"new"
technique appears!
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(2/N0F0RN)
Paragraph 2.2:
A valid Army requirement for SRI
to pursue,
wever,
what
is independent cost figure?
If training of
2 ORVs
in "old"
tech-
shoulcfbe BdjisteS
a
do™ar5?
inte"ded dUri"9 yB"
Ar"y fUnding c °ntribu,;1 °"
c.
(S/NOFORN)
Paragraph
2.3:
Refer
to comment para
2a above.
Aqain,
no
/n°™a
,
train jng program exists.
It
is unlikely
SRI
could honor such
a
year #1
commitment with
a quality program.
Other contractor possibilities should be
explored.
Recommend Army contact USMC regarding Vietnam era employment of
Woers,
a function apparently related
to
tracking.
Recommend that FY
task
mov^d to
V
FY°82?
f°rmal
tralnin9 program '
and that training
of Army personnel be
d.
(S/NOFORN)
Paragraph 2.4:
SRI expertise does not appear to include
physiological monitoring capability.
Recommend consideration be qiven to
TK
V/er
M
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CC)n
J rac ^0r suPP°rt
bV examining expertise
of other organizations,
inrn ^
al ™oaidas
. Ir>stitute and
the Meninger Foundation have made significant
11/p i nh
f iato
th
!s
, area
:
c V}e technical expertise
of such organizations
far
out-
weigh
that available at SRI,
insofar as bio-physical evaluation
is concerned.
,
e *
(S/NOFORN)
Paragraph 2.8:
Quick reaction tasks should be avoided
whenever possible.
Not only do they detract from the effort
at hand and lead
to numerous scheduling and production problems,
but more importantly,
there
is
a great security risk
in involving uncleared personnel
in sensitive intelli-
gence situations.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
6:
Security Requirements.
Sufficient SI/SA0
billets should be identified
to properly support
the program.
If and when
5RI-I commences work
on operational situations,
then
it would be wise
if all
personnel connected with operational matters possess
the necessary clearances.
g.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
7:
Monthly Status Report.
Not needed.
The C0TR
is
there
to insure
that work
is flowing smoothly and
the quarterly technical
reports should be sufficient
to enable everyone
to keep abreast
of current
developments.
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SUBJECT:
IN5C0M Comments
to Proposed DIA Memorandum of Understandina
re.
GRILL FLAME
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h.
(S/N0F0RN)
Paragraph
8:
Suggest more appropriate term than "interpret".
The contract monitor should not try
to "interpret" anyone's request but rather
take requirements as stated
to contractor and then serve as interface between
contractor and primary customer
if clarification
is needed.
6.
(S/N0F0RN)
Comments
re.
Miscellaneous
Items.
a.
INSC0M
is not prepared to enter
into 36 months effort with SRI-I.
Is DA?
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Monthly Status Report:
Again,
this step
.is not needed.
SRI-I staff personnel will be spending all their
time and efforts
in generating
reports instead
of concentrating
on the
job
at hand.
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7.
(S/N0F0RN)
Comments
re.
Funding.
a.
(S/N0F0RN)
Contract should be .for
justify.
year
- renewable
if results so
.
b.
(S/N0F0RN)
levels indicated.
$450K?
IGFP
funds
It
is not clear where
the money
is coming from to fund the
Is DA
gfelng
to provide $150K for the Army portion
of the
are directed toward INSC0M evaluation project.
8.
(VN0F0RN)
Comments
re.
MIPR Control Provisions
and Guidance.
Ref
item
4-
Ranges m purpose scope
or desired results,
etc.
must be approved
by
the GRILL
FLAME Committee vice
the Primary Contractor Monitor.
Refer comment paras
3g and
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