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I'm still not quite sure that this
is
a building
or not.
Its
.
.
I can't see
the inside.
I gotta
say
its probably
a big rectangular form with kind
of
a beam shaped or triangular beam shaped form
running down both sides
.
There
are
some edges
that look like
shed type edges
sticking out and
I
get the impression there's stacked spool
like
objects around
it.
I have no conceivable idea of
what it
is.
#43.5:
Okay.
#19.5:
Ahh. ...
I
see big power lines
for
some reason
but they don't
.
.
.
they just go through the
area.
I definitely
see what looks
like some
Asiatic farmland of some
sort.
Rice paddies and
bamboo stands and
.
.
.
appears that there are
probably some hills
jutting
up.
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I get the
.
.
I
get
a strong sensation that
its
coastal.
This
area
is
coastal.
Its
like
I
can
smell
salt air.
PAUSE
Its ...
I
don't see anything distinguishable
about the rectangular
form.
I can't see either
end of
it.
Its
like
its very
long.
See what
appears
to be like
a spiral shape or
form.
Like
you would see when you look through concertina.
Its
a spiral.
Marshy ground.
Very wet ground.
PAUSE
That's really all
I
see;
I
don't
see anything else.
Its
a very simple target.
I
think.
PAUSE
At least I'm getting the impression that
it
is
not
a very complex target.
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For some reason
I
just had
a flash like
I was
looking at the front end of an old truck.
With
a canvas top and
it had
a funny up/down grill on
it.
Like reminiscent of the
40 's.
Its
just
a
fleeting type thing like maybe
it was driving
through that area or something.
Its really
all;
maybe
I ought to sketch some of this out.
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#43.5:
You seem to be pretty
low;
can you go up and
maybe take
a look at the area in broad per-
spective?
#19.5:
Yeah.
Very green.
I
get the
feeling that
there's.
.
.
outside of
a ...
no.
To be honest,
I'm trying
to
see
if there's
some military
significance
to
it and
I keep getting strong
feelings of training but no real military
significance
to the
target.
Like it may be used or part of
a training type
area
#43.5:
Now remember,
don't try
to put something in
there
#19.5:
I'm not.
Just
.
.
.
Its very wet
area.
I
see
light reflecting off of many.
.
.
square pattern
areas,
like many rice paddies,
you know.
Really
kind of
a desolate area.
#43.5:
Okay.
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#19.5:
Very sparsely populated.
PAUSE
Still
spool type objects.
#43.5:
Tell me more about that truck.
What type of
road was
it on?
#19.5:
I'd say probably,
I don't feel like
its paved.
I
feel
like
its probably crushed rock and dirt.
Very dusty when
its
dry.
I don't feel
like
its
dry right now though for some reason.
#43.5:
Okay
PAUSE
#19.5:
It feels
like
its raised,
you know,
like
the
road
is
up
a little,
its been raised.
PAUSE
That was
a very fleeting shot of
a truck.
I
don't think its
there permanently.
Humph!
I
really don't see anything else.
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#43.5:
Are you still
seeing that old-fashioned barracks
type building?
#19.5:
I'm not sure that's
a building.
I said that
rectangular
form.
And there seem to be
a couple
.
.
a couple triangular beam,
long lanky beam
type objects.
Its rectangular
shape,
I had
a
lot of trouble seeing the ends
of.
For some
reason,
like they blend
into
something.
#43.5:
Urn hm
.
#19.5:
I'm trying to look for some significant detail
about them and
I can't ...
I
can't.
.
For
a
fleeting second there
I
got the feeling like
maybe the triangular beam type objects are stand-
ing on end.
Its kind of interesting.
I
see
a
black.
.
.
the round edge of the rectangular
object is black like there's black paint or heavy
shadow or some
sort there.
Really kind of
a back-
ward area of the world it seems
like.
I may be
wrong but
I get that sensation.
#43.5:
Okay.
Fine.
PAUSE
#19.5:
God knows why they'd have any interest
in protect-
ing these beam type objects,
but there's
a.
.a
sense there's concertina wire somewhere around.
Or that shape,
that
form,
that pattern.
Rolls of
something around.
I
.
.
Its difficult to tell
what the relationship of the spool type objects
are
to this.
Too,
but they're
there.
There
is
that
form,
its
there.
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#43.5:
Why don't you follow that wire around
to
see where
it goes.
PAUSE
#19.5:
It goes up both edges of the raised road.
PAUSE
There's what appears
to be off
to the side
like
some kind of
a
.
.
Its hard
to tell
far away.
A few thousand meters.
.
some
low,
low roof
structures.
Some kind of
a
camp.
With just people.
Very few vehicles
it seems
like.
Its almost like
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this
is an entry road to that camp.
For some
reason.
But
I don't feel like
the camp
is
the
target.
That's
just
a periphial thing
-
its kind
of off.
Off
to one
side.
PAUSE
I want to
.
.
.
PAUSE
+17
There's another funny object there
too.
It looks
like
a real old-fashioned water tower.
Has
the
old circular shape thing out of wood.
Standing
up on angled out stilted legs with criss-cross
support pieces.
#43.5:
Urn hm.
#19.5:
I don't know if that's what it is,
but that's
what it looks
like.
It has
that same
shape minus
the
.
.
.
the
.
.
long piece that comes
out.
#43.5:
Where
is
this structure that you just described
#19.5
in relationship to
the spools or the
spool
like objects?
#19.5:
It appears
to be very closely located to
it.
Somewhat off to the side of the road,
but they're
not fastened
to one another.
I don't
think.
Its
like they just happen to be standing there
together
.
PAUSE
Just lost that,
that shape,
that tower type
shape.
I
can't seem to
locate it anymore.
I
feel
like
I
' m on one
side of the raised road and /
can’t
see around it for
some reason.
#43.5:
Go.
Why don't we
go
up
to about
1,000
feet and
look down and see what you can
see on the other
side of the road.
PAUSE
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#19.5:
When
I
see it now,
its
like
to the side of the
road.
It might be some kind of watch tower or
something.
Its
like
that.
And then
the spools
anyway are circled by the
.
.
a circular pattern.
PAUSE
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That's all
I
can
.
.
.
Its
a very.
.
I don't know
for
some reason
I
just don’t get anything else
out of
it.
#43.5:
Do you want to draw?
#19.5:
Its
a
.
.
.
yeah.
It must be
a very simple
target.
That feeling anyway.
Let me fix this
tower or
whatever
it
is
in my mind.
Its kind of
a neat
thing.
PAUSE
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Page
1,
there's
a
.
.
its
like
.
.
like rectangular
pieces.
For some reason,
I
feel
like there's
an
edge or an end on each end but I'm having
a
lot
of trouble seeing it for some reason.
But
I
just
sense that its
there.
And the bottom edge
is
either painted black or
is
a shadow of some sort.
PAUSE
And
I can't tell
the relationship of this
to the
triangular objects but there's
like
a
.
.
there's
like two triangular objects
like
this
that come
down like beam shapes.
I get a feeling of great
strength.
.
that’s why
I call them beams
for some
reason.
Like there's
some great strength associated
with these things
.
And
I
see
.
.
.
one or two of
these.
Not very many.
PAUSE
For some reason,
I
just think they're beam type
objects
PAUSE
That's
one.
PAUSE
On Two,
Page
- there's
a like
a stack of spool
type objects.
Very difficult drawing these.
They are kind of
in this
.
.
right, but
I don't
have
any,
for some reason,
feeling of
size associated
with these.
They could be can size or they could
be smaller.
They're fairly substantial though.
I don't want
to give the impression that they're small.
I
never
see small things
for some reason.
But these
are very substantial.
But they're kind of like
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#43.5
#19.5
#43.5
#19.5
#43.5
#19.5
stacked or whatever.
Where are
they located in relation to
(not
audible)
.
.
?
I don't see
the beams and the rectangle — you're
covering up your speaker #43.5 —
I don't see
the beams and the rectangle
at all when
I
look
from the
top.
But what
I
see
is
a
. .1
see
like
some form of camp.
This
is on Page
3.
I
see some form of camp over here with
a main
access road going like this and its
a raised road.
Like crushed rock and dirt road that goes down
the center of this raised portion.
And
for some
reason back here,
right after
it comes off of
another main road,
back here.
Is that road made of
a similar material?
This,
this
.
.
yes.
This target that
I was
look-
ing at
is here
in relationship.
I
just feel like
its
there.
And within that box which I'll put on
Page
4,
.
.
Oh,
incidentally,
there
are squares
of reflected light everywhere.
For some reason,
I
just feel like
its
an Asiatic type farming
community.
You know,
like those are rice paddies.
Strange,
but that's
the way
I
feel.
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Four.
Page
4.
In that square there
is this
raised portion of this road with crushed rock
and dirt.
Portion here.
And when
I
look
at this
from the top
I sense
this
is the target,
I
see
a
.
.
.
well,
it can't be
in that direction.
I
sense this
as being
a four-legged supported old-
fashioned water
tower,
guard tower
type
structure.
And next to it
I
sense the spools
are somewhere
close by and that this wire pattern
is everywhere.
I don't
see
it,
you know,
how it
is
in pattern.
But its everywhere.
There's
some significance
to
this portion of the
road.
Okay.
Page
4.
And Page
5,
that pattern
is definitely
like
this.
Everywhere.
The side view of the,
between the dotted
lines,
the side view of the
tower or whatever
it
is,
I can't tell
if
its round
or square.
It looks square
to the eye from the
side but
I don't know if that's
the side of
a
circular object or
a square object.
But
I
get
a
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feeling its made of wood and that the
legs extend
down maybe three stories and that there
is crossed
pieces
as well
as pieces that go around this way.
Supporting
it.
Its
some kind of tower.
PAUSE
That's
it really.
#43.5:
Okay.
#19.5:
I think there's
some kind of military significance
to
this but
I don't see
it as something really,
I mean,
of great importance.
#43.5:
Urn hm.
PAUSE
Are you going to go back to this one?
#19.5:
Yeah.
This
is Number
2,
Page
3.
I'm sorry
-
the
camp
.
#43.5:
Explain
the road going
to that area there
again.
#19.5:
Its
a dike
like road.
Its
like
a huge mound of
dirt like
a dike.
It may not even be
a formal
road.
It may be what they've done
is created
this dike of crushed rock and dirt and soil and
everything and they may patrol
the top edge of
the dike.
.
.
or use the top edge of the dike
as
well
for convenience
as
a road.
But its an access
road in any case
to this
camp area
.
.
over here.
I
just see these as being very low silhouetted
barracks
type buildings.
They have really no
significance.
May even be
a farmer's
camp or
a
worker
' s
camp ,
or
.
.
.
#43.5:
The building's
inside that area?
#19.5:
Inside
the scribbled area,
yeah.
#43.5:
Okay.
How about down at the other end
-
(not
audible)
this
junction
(not audible)
to the other
road.
What
is
that box down there?
#19.5:
This box.
#43.5:
Okay.
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#19.5:
I
just sense that that
.
.
I
get
a strong feel-
ing of water around that box too.
I don't know
if
its because
the ground's marshy;
if there's
some form of river that passes;
there's
a possi-
bility that there's
a river that passes through
there.
But,
I
just essentially feel that the
target
is actually within this
box.
#43.5:
Is
that whole area fenced
in with the concertina?
#19.5:
No.
There's
just concertina
in that box.
#43.5:
Within that area,
okay.
#19.5:
Yeah.
But how its patterned there,
its
like
some
form of control of some
sort.
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I don't have any idea why.
PAUSE
#43.5:
Okay
.
#19.5:
That's
the real target right there.
That's about the best
I can do.
#43.5:
Is there anything else you want to add or anything?
#19.5:
No.
I don't think
so.
We'll terminate
this.
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