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MEMORANDUM FOR
THE RECORD
1 September 1981
SUBJECT:
GRILL FLAME Briefing for NSA Scientific Advisory Committee,
28 August
1981
(U)
SGI
I
1.
(C)
BACKGROUND:
NSA has been sending
a representative
as
an unofficial observer to the DoD GRILL FLAME meetings for some time.
Hoy/ever,
NS/Wia^Tever been
an active partner
in the GRILL FLAME effort.
Recently,
5Q 1
I mmm had been -directed by the DIRNSA to have the NSA Scientific Advisory
Committee study
the. current DoD program and to make
a recommendation as to whether
or not NSA should support the current DoD effort.
proceeded to
SGI
I
arrange
a series
of briefings for this committee to include:
b.
c.
d.
e.
2.
(U)
personnel were present:
CIA presentation
DIA presentation
SG1J
SRI-I presentation
- Dr.
Puthoff
INSC0M presentation
- LTC Watt
Unofficial presentation
- CDR Stewart
I presented
a two-hour briefing
to the committee on 28 Aug
81.
Following
SGI
I
- Host
NSA
(Tech Applications
& Advancement)
Dr. Willis Ware,
Chairman,
NSA Scientific Advisory Committee
Rand Corporation,
Santa Monica, California
Dr.
James Burnett,
Member
of Committee
,
TRW
Dr.
Ronald Wigington,
Member
of Committee
Director
,
R&D
Chemical Abstract Services
SG11 SBHMember
of Committee
Re^^ec^^orr^SA
(former Crypto Manager)
SGI
I
CDR Jake Stewart
Office of Naval
Intelligence
IGE NAll ONAIiS
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LTC Robert Jachim
INSCOM
LTC Murray
B. Watt
INSCOM
3.
(U)
Inclosure
1 provides the outline
of the presentation
I gave them.
4.
(C)
I showed the committee several examples
of our finished products including
complete details
on how we conducted our sessions.
Further,
I passed around
selected samples of GRILL FLAME evaluations that we have received from consumers.
(See
our TOP SECRET eval file.)
I stressed that our effort was not research
and development,
but strictly operational in nature.
5.
(U)
I would say that the committee received the presentation with an
"open mind" attitude.
Their questions and keen interest demonstrated that they
were trying to search out the answers to a very puzzling
. problem.
Inclosure
As stated
(S)
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WATT
LTC
MI
INSCOM GRILL FLAME
Regraded CONFIDENTIAL when separated
Project Manager
from SECRET inclosure
NOTED
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OCT
- DEC
78:
DEC
- FEB
79:
APR
- OCT
79:
MAY
- DEC
79:
NOV 79
- PRESENT:
JAN 80
- PRESENT:
AUG 80
PROG RAM
DEVELOPMENT
EVENT
ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
SCREENING & SELECTION OF PERSONNEL
IN-HOUSE TRAINING
SRI ORIENTATION
OPERATIONAL TASKING
TASK FORCE ESTABLISHED
MOVE
TO NEW FACILITY
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TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
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TASKING ORGANIZATIONS
HQ,
USAINSCGM
NSC
JCS
ACSI/AMSAA
CIA
SG2D MIG
ITAC
USA OPS GP
NO.
OF PROJECTS
TOTALS:
AS
OF
26 JUNE
1981
NO.
OF SESSIONS
227
109
II
120
575
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AS OF
26 JUNE
1981
SUMMARY
OF SESSIONS
TRAINING
207
OPERATIONAL
575
PROJECTS:
*A.
COMPLETED:
8.
WORKING:
C.
INACTIVE:
INTELLIGENCE PROVIDED:
A.
USEFUL DATA PROVIDED
24 PROJECTS
8.
FAILED TO HELP
24 PROJECTS
C.
DATA STILL BEING STUDIED CONCERNING
16 PROJECTS
•INCLUDES ONE PROJECT CANCELLED,
NOT
RELEASABLE
TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
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EXCERPS FROM CUSTOMER EVALUATIONS:
ITAC:
There were a few spectacular reports. . .the project confirmed with uncanny accuracy
the
presence of a recently constructed major ditch array and the number and type of elite units in
a remote garrison area.
* n sum, ^experience with GF ,
thus far,
tends to strengthen the validity of the techniques
involved and also indicates that its greatest utility
as an operational tool may be in the Cl field.
._. In
*6 out of 18 cases GF sources described the facility in sufficient detail to allow positi\
luGn tit ic3 ti on
1U¥L:
.
*
compliment you and your personnel on achieving an intelligence
community "First."
a
JCS:
Therefore,
it is the judgement of this analyst that extensive testing and development of
con rol procedures be accomplished before any final assessment of
the value of
GF
mater'’ al can
be made*
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