| i. | Approved For Release 2ooo1dgit0 : CIA-RDP$6-00787R000300150001-4 2 providing sufficient excitation to See, to test the concept. But it isn’t full blown. As much as, I mean, were talking a really complex but it’s only a test vehicle for the reality of the concept. The real ty from this. It all has to do with timing. Because in the real concept what’s happening in A, this little bitty fire here about increasing that on a magnitude of 10-12 which is really up there, which means that there isn’t a container that’s gonna hold it and I don’t know how they’re gonna do that which is rea But you can see the megalithic increase in the output.. ( +) Sure. » we’re talking , 1 interesting, V: »..Up here through this, this, these key elements, If they were increased, if this is, we’re talking billions and billions of lots of power going to this test vehicle, and you can imagine what a ten fold increase in power to the output of this thing would be, I mean, just...unbelievably destructive. That essentially what I’n getting. Vv: . What’s interesting is I - 1 think all the elements of this are being tested, that’s what’s going on right now. They’re not firing it up, they’re testing all the elements. — ~ M: [ j I see. V: M: C \ It would be analogous to preparation for V: M: ( } Everything’s being fine tuned and calibrated. The test is yet to come. It’s all being fine tuned and calibrated. & launch or something like that where there’s lots: of activity and... 4 Yeah. \_ | »..and things being done to test the component parts of it - to make sure they’re in working order. | Uh, this, this would be amazing to watch —- I mean talk about feedback. [I mean, when they fire this sucker up the, the, the, uh, the atmosphere will glow around it, a 5} I see, so there is Something, there really is Something to a 8 see. i } Oh, sure. {It’s not just uh...watch the dials kind of thing... B-12 Approved For Release 2000/08/10 : c1a#DP96-00787R000300150001-4
Approved For Release 2000/08/10 : CIA-RDP96-00787R000300150001-4 i M: o ) OK, allright, we will Stop the tape for this one, that’s fine. Tonight we’re gonna have XXXX and the SRI folks all there. Vv: 5 All, watching this sucker go off. } Seeing whatever is going on. Vi ¢ Maybe they’1l all be Standing around with their thumbs in “their ears saying well it should have, 7 That’s true. V: (e _/ We'll wait and be Surprised. I know want their electric bill t this place, 1°11 tell you that. ] Makes your electric bill look kind of Piddly, does it? s d It sure does. | _) By comparison. — . " B-18 Approved For Release 2000/08/10 : CIA-RDP96-00787R000300150001-4
Approved For Release 2000106110 : C1A-RDP96-00787R000300150001-4 SESSION 4, 12:00 p.m. (U) May 7, 1987 (U) — So, here we are. It’s a Minute or so till 12. Take a minute “or So get yourself situated. Xxxxx is on site again as are the SRI staff members. They’1l be acting as beacons in this, uh, during this pass and they’1l be observing, watching the event that or an event that is taking place at this time and your job is to give a description of that, of what’s happening there, what’s of interest to them right now as they’re at the site. a (. } Hmm. OK, let’s see. Um. I’m trying to, it, uh, getting a réal interesting imprints here. I, uh, I get sort of uh kind of interesting, uh, I want to say that I’m, you know, that I’m envisioning this, this, uh phaser-—type of thing, but that’s, I’m, I’m Seeing something a little different... - 7) Um-hum. | Um, um, uh, hum. I feel like I’m stuck between an overlay, an ‘analytic overlay and an actual event, . C a Um-hunm, ] And, I don’t know how to rectify that. }Can’t quite sort it out? /No. It’s kind of like, an event but it’s a, kind of like it’s on film too. . - . (Hum, 1 Which is kind of interesting. q Um—hum, that’s on film, or one that’s on film combined with an actual event going on there. I don’t know how to explain that. Uh, sort of a package deal, it’s kind of like, uh, uh, I keep getting, uh, like combination of two things - one’s local and one isn’t. _ f Hum. B-19 Y Approved For Release 20 108/10 : CIA-RDP96-00787R000300150001-4