Approved For Release 2000/08 ory a : 5-00788R000200210001-7 #663 All right. #7: Drop off. Cross country. #66: And immediately below you. Immediately below you. #7: A big stack. Brick. Brick. PAUSE Lots of ... PAUSE Parallel . . long buildings. Parallel. That would be... South of the... stack. PAUSE #66: All right. PAUSE Move again now. Move again, further East. Move away from your original point further East one more leg. One more half mile. Move East. 2% miles from your original point and describe this area to me. PAUSE +28 3=#7: Looks .. . a little more sparse to the left of me. I thought. . . things on post, I thought it was... Things on post, I thought it was a. . sub station. PAUSE #66: All right. #73 Its like a white spray column shape like. Like. . « « « Hmmm. Damn. PAUSE Like garden spray column (not audible). White. Can't identify what causes it. PAUSE I think it looks like . . . looks like apartment - the building shape's to the South. PAUSE Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96 -0078 6 A R000200210001-7
Approved For Release 2000/08/06 +33 +40 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RI #66: #7: #66: #7: 568R000200210001-7 All right. Maintaining your altitude, move once again. Move East once again. Three miles from your original point. Move one and a half mile further East. You are now three miles from your original point, PAUSE Describe this area to me. | PAUSE T don't know. Oh well. PAUSE I don't understand this. Its .. . It reminds me of » » « Of inflatable. . inflatable . . plastic enclosure. Off to the right there. Its big and smooth. There's all kinds of ... all kinds of things. There's small buildings. Piles of ... debris, PAUSE It looks like a... big fenced in.. area witha. . kind of ahead of me and to the left. I'm seeing. . highly complex . . . overlapping cone shapes. I think they've got some kind of tests. .. tests... some kind of test. I see parallel linear - I'm down. . about. .. PAUSE 20 feet off the ground right now. Isaw..-s parallel linear pattern coming from a great distance straight towards me like, like . . the perspective looks like with . . two close to the end of linear pattern with a 20mm lens. Its real big. Its. real small the further away it goes. Tell me what makes you say test. Well, it looks like a big area. Spread out. And I saw a concrete . . apron thing over there. Looked like it might have been a little higher than the surrounding. . . The whole thing looks like... a giant bar relief. Kind of like monotone. I was looking for vegetation. I see some big round - round ended . . . cylinder tanks over there with... several » « Oh, several vertical pipes. . . right next to it. PAUSE we 6-00788R000200210001-7 oe PARE a
Approved For Release 2000/08/07, ; v ia e a oe 88R000200210001-7 #7: #66: #7: #663 +45 #7: Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RE But this was smaller tubes coming up. . vertical and turning roughly South It seemed to be venting some kind of . . some kind of gas or steam. PAUSE Fairly high pressure because it extends from a tube in a straight spreading linear pattern rather than . « lazily drifting off like venting low pressure steam. There are several. . » « PAUSE vertical tubular shapes over there in a row. About 14 times or the height.is 1% times the diameter. PAUSE Looks like . . I don't know, its eithera... railroad spur loops or cables laid out down there. PAUSE I got a weird sensation of a. . + a high frequency - like I'm shaking or quivering from the high frequency. Okay. I have no further questions about the target area at this time. If there's anything that you'd like to add, please do so now, PAUSE There's one thing. This side of the fence, I think I just saw... I don't know. Top of a flame I guess it is. It was very short lived. It phooed out and just quit. There is a building down there. And that's about it. Okay. Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate and review your imagery now before drawing. Relax and concentrate. I can't remember all of that. PAUSE TURN OVER TAPE §8R000200210001-7
Approved For Release 2000/08/0 #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: 47: #31: #7: #31: #7: 88R000200210001-7 Well, what I'd like first is we use some acquisition imagery to get you on target and some words as well which were from your preceding session. If you would - « « your first imagery associated with this section where storage tank shapes, dress right dress, okay, if you would give me a quick sketch of that, we can start with continuity in the debriefing. PAUSE I had the feeling the end of these things were rounded. Bowed indicating they might be high pressure tanks. Okay. I never realized that until just now. I was aware that the ends were rounded but just never realized what it meant. PAUSE This is very crude. The saw tooth... as I was looking to the Northeast, seemed to be kind of facing south. And I thought this was glass in this area here. I assume its to get light in. Okay and they're on the right side of the sketch (not audible) the tanks. Yeah, these things were on some kind of a stand and I Felt they must be 15-20 foot long at least. Uh, long, okay I see from your sketching there, then they're laid horizontally? Yeah, they were horizontal to the ground. Okay. I see them not on the same plain as this building. But really in real life they were. They were off somewhere to the right. Okay. Fine. There's a lot of these. Yeah, okay. That was your acquisition imagery then. At the start of the session. Uh. .. also before your first movement, you had multiple steam lines on stands above ground, okay? 7 remember steam pines 3 I gone know where they were. n I_don't know where I moved or not, but it would Approved For Release odnie/7 AR RRS RSL EO ODAO ZN building, I don't remember.
#31: Well, is it associated with your Sketch 1? #7: No, I thought it was over to the left over here. #31: Okay. #7: I don't know whether its in the first touchdown. I don't know where, where it was in time, but I remember where it was relative to my view. PAUSE And there was some kind of big building here and this was going. along the side of the building. PAUSE It seemed like there was a conveyor or something. . I saw. . Yeah, there was a rubber fabric belt. I couldn't see the whole thing - where it was coming from but I saw very clearly inset down here in the bottom. #313 Number 2, okay. #72 OF Number 2. PAUSE I don't even know if there is a thing shaped like this, but this is what it looked like to me. It looked like an angle iron or... It was attached to this belt. And, I don't remember if it was moving or not, but I felt. it moved in this direction. And I saw pipes, I saw this, I thought for some reason with the other things I saw around, I thought we might have some kind of a... . power station of some kind. Perhaps steam plant. Maybe generating steam for some of the other buildings here. #31: On this Sketch 2, do you have a feeling for the diameter of the steam pipe? The size? #7: Yeah, I'd guess about 12-14 inches. #31: Okay. And how about the belt? Do you have a feeling - just a quick feeling for ?? #7: Yeah, I would guess meter/meter and a half wide. #313 Okay. 10 88R000200210001-7
Approved For Release 2000/0870¢" . leu “ #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: 7: #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: #7: #31: ET: 00788R000200210001-7 All right. Your first movement to the East, do you have any more for that? No, I was trying to remember the first movement to the East. Okay, well that comes after this portion of the sketching here. In your first movement, your touchdown, your words were “looks like ore pile - big pile of stuff, more gray than black, but not coal, its a pile or iron ore or limestone." It seemed to have broken flats or facets on it... which looked different than coal. Okay. I tried to figure out why I said ore instead of coal, since we've been talking about coal down here at Number 2. Or, I felt there was coal associated with Number 2. Um hm. Okay. And then I move on and I see a pile and I said ore and I don't know why I said that. Except it did look different. Um hm. Okay. That's fine. And there was more than one pile. Just a heaping pile looked like a bull dozer had been pushing on it. . on one side. I don't know whether you want that or not, No, we can go on. On the tape is enough for that. Just a pyramidal shape. Pyramidal shape? Yeah, roughly. The flat on one side of one of the piles I saw. , Okay. That's fine. At this point or in this area of your touchdown, your first touchdown, your words were "on a shady side of a big building, something looked like abandon tractor treads, a big metal belts coiled up next to the building, some were just double back once others appeared to have been coiled." Yeah, it seemed like tractor treads. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP 96-0 eRO A202 10001-7 AP CS a
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