+09 +14 +16 Approved For Release 20: 169705 : GIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8 #66 #31 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 .and honey...uh...um...greens and browns with a. felt. as though he had something long and tubular by his right leg. He was standing inside, but off side...behind the wall. I have a...I'm inside now...swinging to my left...uh...there appears to a. be a little distance from the wall a..a like 15 or 20 feet is a structure a..on my left Describe the structure. I'm trying to swing.to it. I will swing to it here. PAUSE (Mumbling)...I...try to refocus. We have plenty of time. Just relax and concentrate. Relax and concentrate and describe the target to me. PAUSE I...a...(mumbling) somebody at the interior corner of the wall at the back of this building. ...the seems to be light, possibly...uh... three or four stories high. There is a... some sort of a narrow front step area leading into the front of this place. Like, like it may be a...a small, steps leading up to-a small front porch, but it's sandstone or stone and cement and got a...this funny thing front porch is a...encased in a cement wall. It's not an open thing. Looks like maybe something like a dormitory (mumbling) building. It doesn't appear to be real wide. Alright. Move now up over the top of the building. Move up over the top of the building and describe it to me. It's a...I a...(mumbling)...a recessed roof. Uh, some kind of a lip around the roof. (Mumblirg) .want to put a flat roof in there. I have something in the...something that's square om poem OD A 4 een Approved For Release 2003/09/09 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8
+20 +24 Approved For Release 200 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 89/09: CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8 ree in the ...in the back right corner (mumbling) on the roof. It's...in the back right corner. Box or something in there. Floating above the roof now, floating above the roof and looking down, describe it to me. Feeling is very nearly square...very nearly square. Looking down at it from a different view had this feeling it had an X going through it, corner to corner, corner to corner. Some sort of a design or a...marking of some kind. Roof now appears to be a...darker shade...uh... something...uh... Ok. Tell me about the areas surrounding the building, holding your perspective above the building, tell me about the area surrounding the building. On a...two sides...uh...the right side, the back side..uh...is a dead space abounded by the wall. Let me try to get in there. All I see is a...dist...free open space...uh...seems like the back space narrower than the side space...uh... seems that the other side of the building... I'm getting a funny backward 6 shape...some kind of a aerial pattern of a road, maybe, but anyway to go on...a...it seems the road narrow walks space on the other side of the building and then a...it seems that there is a structure there, which is rather a...lower”’ one or one and a half stories tall. I guess small crack passageway between them. I get the feeling that's tiled or something in there. Like maybe a rain gutter, or something. Funny thing is that a...I want to say this building is got a low veak roof. Ok. At this time I have no further questions, right now. So at this time I'd like you to gather your thoughts together and perhaps make any comments that you want to add at this time and prepare to draw. Approved For Release 2003/09/09 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8
Approved For Release 20 #31 #66 #66 #31 #66 #31 96-00788R000800060001-8 Uh...this side...uh...I feel shade around me on the other side of whatever this open Space is and possibly..-.uh...a little structure inside...with trees behind it...across the street. I had the distinctive feeling that there was a six shape here like something like maybe...uh...a straight line with a circular drive off of it. Uh...going back to the gate...oh...I was working the tall building...uh...I had this feeling that there might have been several high windows in that which looked over the wall. In the right hand of that ri...of the one of those high windows I felt that there was somebody in there. I mean somebody looking out. Like a watch person...and I remember that when I was up above the place. Ok. I'd like you to draw your impressions now. What you had. (Drawing) Get you some light. Noisy enough today, wasn't it. Let's try to draw your lines real dark here. Ok. I had a...there was something on that... I' don't know. I'm drawing a round shape on top of that thing, but I don't know. But here ...not as big as that though, more like each one of them...vertical metal bars, ok...that makes ‘em look too big and thick, they're not. There just little...bars about an inch and a half, inch bars at the most. They're like this..... black. That looks better. Ok. I had this... I had the impression of like this kind of work, curveness and I had an impression of a curve over the top. Ok.. Then I had an impression of another curve here...... Some kind of...I don't know how they're connected there...alright...and with a woe . ‘ 2. Ee Cia wee ba reel Approved For Release 2003/09/09 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8. RNR RN nt SF RT
Approved For Release 20 #66 #31 #66 #31 #66 #31 Pa TO aa.* CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8 1 a is a some sort of a buttress on each side of it, ok. Looking like that. Alright, this is the in thing I wanted to say. There's something funny about the right hand side of this thing which is not like the other side of it which might be a little...it's as though there's something across this thing that is shaped like this. Ok. It's as though, when I first got there, I was Standing with my back to this buttress, looking down the side of this gate thing. Turned to look at it, and it looked like there was something Sitting right here by my eye that was Shaped like that. Ok. Alright. Um...this was going the other way into the background. I had the feeling that there was...it was beveled. You follow what I mean? — , Uhm... It had a beveled top on it. Flat white. It was lighter. This was dark...this was like dark sand and this is a light beveling...ok. Uhm. And that's the corner of the compound, ok. So much for that. That's all I saw to start with. Then inside and through the gate, I'll just draw a little bit of it here to give you the flavor of it, right around that right, left hand corner, I had the feeling there was a guy in there, but just standing and looking to the right. It wasn't like he was standing and looking out the gate and it wasn't like you could almost...you could see him. It was as though he was standing back in here behind the corner a little ways. Like three feet. So when he'd look out the gate he'd look out this way into the foreground of this...of sketch number one because he couldn't look right straight out. Ok. There's the man now. Approved For Release 2003/09/09 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8.
Approved For Release 200 #66 #31 #66 69 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8 When I hopped through the gate...I ended up with (mumbling) kind of looking back at it ok. I kept that thing...that double hump thing just kept coming back. I didn't talk about it at first. Finally it was there long enough that I figured it was right. This is where the guy was standing. He was like standing right from there. (mumbling) a sloppy hat on his head. On his right side he was...he had a...a..let me show you from the right side because that's the way I actually saw him. I saw him as I was coming through the gate. Impression I had was of his other side. Main thing about it was this...I got definite...got a definite feeling of that kind of stuff when I...when I went passed it...holes in a barrel ok, that kind of thing. Huh. That's funny looking thing. Just like that. Ok. That's this guy here. Sketch four. Ok. Um...Ok. Way down here in the corner, then...beveled top on that sucker...heres the side of the building...ok.. looks more like that...alright...and this would be about the front of the building here because it's off-set. It's set back from where this is. I think I've perceived two...if this is three stories, in the top story window is a man...and I had a feeling...when I first went through that gate I had as I was looking down that I took a look down what I think is just open area...it didn't feel there was anything cramed in there. I felt it was just like an open walkway...I felt there was another guy standing down here...right in the back...like he had to walk around...back in this corner or something ...and there was a man looking out that way.... over wall...all I can do is just give you a quick one of this other thing... Ok. Approved For Release 2083/09705 : ElA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8
Approved For Release 20 #31 #66 #31 ae ; CIA-RDP96-00788R000800060001-8 Oh. I'll do it on another one...I felt that this was a slightly peaked roof...there was only about one...one and a half type stories... ok...but I felt that there was this...funny tiled -..passageway through there...I had the feeling like rain gutter almost...and here was the edge of that big building...the left edge of that big building...ok...right down here like this it was ...it was really...it was funny because I had this definite feeling it was just like one guy could run or walk down this thing without going Sideways, but that was about it...like a rain gutter...ok...and here's that building. This one on the right. Five is to the right of number Six. Alright PAUSE I had the funny feeling that the front...on the front on the right side actually...like over on the right side of this building was some funny kind of front porch apparatus...and it was off- set. Everything was weird. It was off-set to the right, ok. This is actually a porch, although the perspective isn't going to show it that way...I'1ll draw it in there so it looks like a porch...that looks like a box...(mumbling} ..-little perspective there...that's a better way to do it, I guess, ok. Windows, or anything like that, I'm not too sure of. I had the feelirg of a lot of concrete and everything, but I really didn't have a feeling for a whole bunch of windows or anything like that in the structure. (Mumbling)...like older, ok. six. Now seven. You mean you had a feeling...tell me about the windows. ...that there windows but that it was an older structure and that there weren't an awful lot. I didn't get the feeling that...that they were different...you know...they weren't like huge plate glass windows or anything like that...I didn't really get much resolution, except over here on...when I had the definite impression of a guy looking out of a window. But on the front
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