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This will
be
a CENTER LANE
Interview
for
0900
hours
April
1983.
Relax
and
concentrate
now.
Relax
and focus your
attention on
the area
Focus
on this area
in
the present
time
and describe
it
to me.
Give
me
about
more
seconds
and
read
them
off
again.
PAUSE
All
that
I have
is
a.... is
a.. shore
line with water
on
the
right
and
a... (mumble)
and
vegetation
on
the
lef t
All
right.
Find
for
me
a
recognizable
geographic
feature
so that
I
can move you from this point.
Moving
closer
in.. into
the
vegetation
area,
the
green
area
is
a
.
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. road
.
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in
a
type
of .. .and.
. .there's
an
impression
here
also
of
a,
this
area being very
flat.
#66:
Move down the
road.
#08:
...Going
to
the. — (mumble)
portion
of
the
road
Yes,
it's
about
There's
a
point
on
the
road with
a
brick
building which
is
about... 30,
miles
north
of
the
city,... a
very
sunny,
warm.
. .seeing
it's very sunny,
warm climate.
#66:
Okay.
You
seem
to
be
in
the
right
location.
I'd
like
to
read
you
this
specific
coordinates
again
and
see
if we can't
get
a more
specific
location
in
this neighborhood.
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Okay,
there's
a.. a
very
quick
impression
of
a
tower
what
is
it
now.... the
lights.. like
it's
in
plexigrass
or
something.
You
can't
see
inside
but
from inside you
can see
out.
#66:
Describe
the
immediate surroundings.
#08:
Very
wide
road
It's
as
wide
as
an
airstrip,
but there's
no traffic there.
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from
And
this
leads
to,
leads
to ..... Building ... few
miles
away,
or
miles... The main activity
of
the
building
is
a. ..control
center .. .there's
an
extensive
series
of
buildings .... all
of
them built
for
the same purpose
From
this
location,
from where
you
are
right
now,
move west
two
and
a half
miles
and
describe.
Move
to
the west
two
and
a half miles
and describe.
It's
a...
a
white
dome.... is
a... white
dome
supported
by
a
.. .a.
. .relatively
strong
but
small.. I
want
to
say
angle
lines,
but
they're
not
angle
lines,
they're
steel studs.
Describe the area surrounding
this.
The
a.. there
are
several
roads
with
the
spoke
like
fashion
that
lead
to
the ,.. leading
to
the
dome.
The
dome
is
a— to
the
north
of
the
dome.. about
miles
north
of
the
dome,
there's
a
road
about
(mumble) ,... east
of
the
dome
is
another
road, .. .small
road .... secondary
highways
is
what
they are .. (mumble)
.
All
right.
Now describe
this
intersection
to me.
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They're
taking
the
bearing
north
and
south
and
east
and
west.
The
eastern
section
of
the
intersection
is
the.. long,
low
level/
a
storage
type
building.
To
the
west
and
closer
to
the
intersection
is
a .... (mumble ,
mumble)
store .... (mumble)
in
the.... And
the
south ... east ... section .. there
is
(mumble,
mumble,
mumble)
facility
of
level
rectangular,
a
small
building
that
I
can't
make
out
what
it
is.
And
a.. south,
west
portion
I
see.. a.. the
fences
and
grass
and pasture
land,
that's what
I
see.
Okay.
Fixing
yourself
at
this
intersection,
describe
the
activity
right
now
today
at
this
intersection.
This
road
is
narrow
and
become
much
wider
north
and
south
and.. much
more
active.
. .seeing
four.. four
lanes
or
more
of... and
the
main
road
the
a... a
great
deal
more
of
a.. traffic
activity.
And
there
was
a
...was
a
(mumble) .. .of
a.. a flat bed trailer
truck.
Okay.
Other
And
Other
than the vehicular
traffic,
what
do
the
sides
of
the
intersection
look
like,
are
there
sidewalks
and
street
signs
or
bus
stop benches,
what
does
it
look
like,
other
than
the
traffic
that
there?
Describe
it
to me.
The heavy traffic
is north
to south....
That's correct.
—The
pedestrian.
. .activity
is
in.. the... a
western
part
of
the
secondary
road
and... and
all
specifically
interested
in.
All
right.
I'd
like
to
move
now
in
time,
but
holding on this
intersection.
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intersection.
Within
that
time
period/
we
are
interested
in
one
particular
occurrence, event
,
happening,
activity.
Yes,
it
has
to
do
with
the
big
tank... a. big
tank,
or
a huge container.
perception
to me.
describe
your
PAUSE
Okay ... .There
are
two
things
came
to pass....
forget
that ... Something
about
a.. bundle
or
a
light
package.. in
the.. in
the .. southwestern
corner
of
the
highway ... .Bundle
wrapped. .. in.
. light
paper.. and
tied
in
tape... My
direction,
my
direction
is
focused
on
that .. bundle .
The
first
impression,
I
want
to
say
because
it's
bothering
me
about
a
multiple accident,
but
it's
a bundle
that
attracted
my attention.
All
right.
Let
me
see
if
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
tell
me.
There
were
two
things
of
importance,
one
of
which
was
an
accident
and
the
other which was
the bundle?
Yes
.
All
right.
Tell me about
the bundle.
The
bundle
is
sealed.
The
bundle
is
wrapped
in.. the paper,
the bundle...
What's happening with
the bundle?
Just
lying there
Watch
the bundle and see what happens with
it.
The
bundle
is.,
the bundle
is
made
of
books... soft
covered
books... the
size
is.. 8
X
(mumble).
The
impression
now
is
of
a.. local having picked
up
the bundle
and
taking
off
with
it,
the
local ... .went
about
miles
in
southwest
area
of
the
(mumble) ... .Yeah,
a
country
poke,
I
guess.... The
a ... impression
of
a.. somewhat
rundown,
small
house
with
a
roof
overhang
.
.
(mumble),
help me
out.
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Focus
on
the
bundle
and
tell
me
what
happens
with
the bundle.
#08:
They brought
it
to that house....
#66:
And?
#08:
It
was
opened
and... I
think
the
individual
is
confused
and
amazed.. and
this
has
lasted
for
some
time
You
want
to
pursue
this
bundle?
#66:
Yes.
Tell
me
about
what's
in
the
bundle
and
what
this
guy does with
it.
#08:
They
open
them. .and .. they
were
a
bunch
of
a.
. .accountable
x
10... printed
mater ial .. about
.
.
each
book
with
about
...and
less
than
a
half
inch
and
a
little more
than
a quarter
inch
thick.
I
see
white
and
red
covers
and
some
dark... dark
type
emblem.
#66:
All
right.
Now what
it
is,
tell me more
about what
he does with these things
in
the bundle.
#08:
Okay
The
a... in
his
confusion
and
amazement,
he
then
transferred
the
bundle
to
the
bottom
on
a
deep
container
about
a
four
foot
container,
wood.,
and
covered
the
...the
contents
of
the
booklets
with
a
some
other
material.
They're
putting
the... the
booklet
and.. and
the
material
in the barrel.
#66:
All
right.
#08:
There's
a
layer
of... maybe
paper
or
canvas
You want anything more?
#66:
Yes.
Looking
first
at
the
bundle
as
it's
unwrapped,
be
very
careful
here
that
I'm
not
suggesting
anything
to
you,
but
do
you
have
the
opinion that these are originals
or
copies?
#08:
That
' s.
. .the.
. .the. .. impression
is
one
of
newly
printed material.
#66:
Newly printed
in
that
they
haven't
been
circulated
and used?
#08:
Fresh off
the press
type
stuff.
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Fresh
off
the
press
type
thing,
okay.
Now
move
further
back
through
this
incident
to
the
intersection again with
the bundle
sitting
there
at
the
intersection
Yeah
—And
move
back
further
again
and
tell
me
how
it
arrived
at
the
intersection.
It
rolled
into
the,
boy,
going
to
backtrack
this
stuff
It
was
thrown
there... it
came
from
a
vehicle.
. .this
is
going
to
be
overlay
here
because.,
but
I'll
say
it
anyway.
The
impression
is
one
of
being
thrown
from
a
passing
vehicle...
Why don't,.. I,
we
can
continue
this
some
other
time
now.
All
right.
When
I
go back
to this
stuff.
All
right.
I
have
one
other
thing
I
require
and
then
I
know you're getting
tired.
I understand.
Give
me
a police
like
description
of
the
man
who
picks
up the bundle and later
opens
it.
Yeah, ...about
5'8",
5'10",
very
country
attitude,
medium
built,
black ... un.
. .black
uncombed
hair,
a
slight
receding
hairline.
Also
an
impression
of
a.. of
a
overalls
with
the
suspenders,
(mumble)
about,
little
heavy
for
his
height,
with
a
slight
paunch....
That's about
it,
I... that
s
it.
Okay.
Now
if he
took
them
to
a place
that
is
about
3 miles
south?
Took them to
the house.
All
right.
If you had to—
A mile and
a half
south
Pardon?
About
a mile and
a half
to
the
south.
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Okay/
if
I
had
to
find
this
house,
what
would
be
the
one
way,
the
one
identifying
thing,
the
one
best way that
I
could find
this house.
#08:
The
house
was
blue
or
white,
because
it's
been
painted.
There's
a
wreck,
there's
a
wrecked
car.. or
the
remnants
of
a
wrecked
car
in
the
area.. Think
it kinda
looks
like
an
old
Chevy
or
something,
black... And
the
porch
overhang
is
a
significant,
recognizable.
. .It's
typical
little
country. .house
#66:
Okay.
Now how do you
feel
about
describing
the
car
and
the
individual
who
threw
the packet
out
of
the
car?
#08:
Your're pushing
it
fella'.
#66:
Okay.
We'll
come
back
to
this
and
go
for
that
a
little
later.
#08:
All
right.
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#08:
Okay,
sketch
#1,
which
entitled
highway
is
the
area
that
was
of
interest,
with
a
multi
lane
highway
going
from north
to
south
and
a
secondary
road
from
east
to west
and
I've
annotated
the
location
of
the
perceived
man
made
objects
that
were
encountered
throughout,
through
the
session,
to
include
an
outdoor
storage
shed
in
the
northeastern portion
of
this
sketch.
And
a
country
store,
gas
station
type
in
the
northwestern
portion
of
the
sketch.
The
thing
I
have
sketched
here
which
I
had
to
when
I
"Xed"
the
spot
for
the
bundle
was
that
indeed
this
crossing
of
highways
was
not
as
angular
at
degrees
as
it
appears
here.
It
was
more
of
a
rounded slant
to
it,
it wasn't
a perfect
90 degrees.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Okay.
And
going
back
and
thinking
of
where
I
had
seen
the bundle,
it was
a
round
corner,
in
this
area
here,
between
the
two
"Xs",
is
really where
it
was.
Okay.
Then
I
tried
to
identify
the
small
farmhouse
in
question,
which
about,
I
forget
what
I
said,
miles,
mile
and
half,
I
get
confused
here,
from
the
location
on
the
same
road.
If
I
follow
that
main
highway,
that multiple highway,
going
south
there
is
a
slight
curve
to
the
highway
after
the
intersection,
within
about
a
mile,
mile
and
half.
And
that
house
is
located
next
to
the
highway
there.
That's
a driveway,
by the way.
#08:
Okay,
sketch
#2
which
I've
entitled
house
is
an
attempt
to
describe
the
house
of
interest,
which
looks
like
an
old
small
country
home
with
front
a... with
a
front
screen
door.
House
has
a
step
of
about
or
steps
and
it
is
off
the
ground
be
about
a
foot
and
a
half,
two
feet
on pillars,
with
an
"A"
roof.
And one
of
the
identifying
factors
is
that
it
has
a
sloping
front
overhang
to
the
house,
which
forms
a
porch
type
approach
to
the
house.
And
looking
for
additional
identifiable
landmarks
I
perceived,
perceived
the
remnants
of
a
wrecked
automobile.
It
could
be
anything,
but
something
like,
definitely
black
automobile.
Something
that
reminds me
of
a
or
a
51 Chevy.
#66:
It was
an abandoned automobile
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Yea.
#66:
It
just sits around
in
the yard.
#08:
Yeah,
like someone
drove
220,000
miles
and
just
left
it
there.
#66:
Okay.
Now
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
this
guy
and
his discovery
of
this bundle and then
a
#08:
I
think
the
guy
is
a
local,
I
think
I
tried
to
emphasize
that,
the
impression
of
a,
lack
of
a
better
expression,
the
local
yokel
who
happens
to
inadvertently
trip
on
the
bundle
in
question
and
takes
it
home
and
has,
is
completely
confused
and
amazed
at
what
he
has
and
really
doesn't
know what
to
do
with
it.
And
realizes
that
it's
of
some
importance,
doesn't
fully
realize,
but
suspects
that
it
has
some value
and
there's
problems
to
translate
that
value
into
something
gainful,
which
he
may,
which
I
do not know
if
he persisted
in that effort.
#66:
And what
did
he,
explain
to me again what
he
did
do
with
the documents.
#08:
The documents were
unwrapped
in
the
front portion
of
the building
or
the front
room
of
the house
and were
subsequently placed
in
a
container
in
the
back
room
of
the
house,
which
appeared
to
me
like
a
wooden
barrel
about
or
feet
high
and
the
documents
in
question
were
placed
there,
layered
with
a
heavy
piece
material,
either
cloth
canvas
or
very
heavy
brown
paper
and
then
filled
with
other
extraneous
material
.
#66:
So
they
then
would
then
wind
up
at
the
bottom
of
this —
#08:
this barrel.
#66:
—wooden type barrel.
#08:
Yea,
barrel,
bin whatever
you want
to
call
it.
#66:
Barrel
will
be
okay.
Anything
else
you'd
like
to
add?
#08:
No.
#66:
Okay.
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4. REPORT OF FINDINGS
On
28 April
1983,
Source
CL-08
was
interviewed
concerning
the
events
and
personalities
mentioned
in
a
letter
received
as
unsolicited
correspondence.
Source
described
two
events
The
first
event
was
a
vehicula r
accident
at
or
near
this
intersection
The
second
event desc^^e^wa^ar^exchange
of
documents
at
this
intersection
Source
stated
that
a
"bundle"
was
thrown
from
a
car
and
retrieved
by
an
individual
who
appeared
to
be
from
the
local
area.
Source
described
this
bundle
as:
sealed,
wrapped
in
paper,
containing
accountable,
soft
covered,
printed
material
approxmately
eight
by
ten
inches
in
size
and
one
fourth
to
one
half
inch
thick
(not
further
identified).
The
covers
of
these
documents
appeared
to
be
white
and
red
with
a
dark
emblem.
This
material
was
described
as
being
newly
printed
material.
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Source
described
the
individual
who
retrieved
this
bundle
as:
male
5’ 8"
to
5' 10"
medium build
("a little heavy
for
his
height,
with
a slight paunch)
black
uncombed hair
Source
stated
that
this
individual
(not
further
identified)
may
be associated
in
some way
(not
further
identified)
with
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an
old
"farmhouse"
(Sketch
2)
about
one
and
one
half
miles
south
of
the
intersection.
This
house
had
an
old
"49
or
Chevy"
parked
in
the
left
front
yard.
Further
attempts
to
obtain
information
from
Source
relevant
to
the
letter met with negative
results.
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above
described
house
fits
the
description
of
a
house
located
The
house
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(early
fifties)
Chevy
parked
in
the
left
front
yard.
The
house
is
approximately
one
and
one
half
miles
south
of
the
intersection
in question.
Information
reported
by
Source
may
be
accurate
in
its
chronological
sequence
but
inaccurate
in
the
specific
date/time
referenced.
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