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#44:
He's
standing next to the
fence,
next,
well
in
the general area of this plaque
like device that
I have described.
Um hm.
He was .
Now,
I've gone back
to the plaque
like
area but
I don't sense him being there;
he's
moved away or around or
.
.
.
All right.
And you said,
if he's
standing there
by the plaque and he was
looking out to the right,
okay,
I want you to stand in the
same place but
look around behind the
fence.
Look across
the
fence,
that's what you asked me
to
do.
And that
is
in fact what
I did at
3 and
and
5.
I'm looking on the other side of the
fence
.
PAUSE
What goes on at this area?
PAUSE
Well,
I have very much painted myself into
a
corner,
haven’t I?
I
think
its
.
.
.
PAUSE
#66,
I'd like
to go back —
is
#11
still
at the
target area?
Yes
.
Okay.
I'd like
to go back to this arrow and see
if
I can concentrate on the sense of the target
area.
Okay.
Now
#11 will be leaving the target very
soon.
That's
all right.
As
long as he's
still there.
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There's
an overhang.
PAUSE
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This really should be Drawing Number
7.
I
get
a sense of being
in
a park like area.
I
still have the sense of an open space.
I
still have
a sense of it being ...
I don't
have any sense of people being around.
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What
in
the hell
is that?
PAUSE
#66:
Okay.
#11
is probably leaving the target now.
#44:
Okay.
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I
think
I've got enough for
the
sense of
the
place
to do
a little bit more and then
I want
to
go back and review everything because there
'
s
a couple of;
at least one drawing that
I haven't
annotated.
PAUSE
Okay.
As per usual with Drawing
at Number
7,
I could see
the front two corners.
I
can
see
the corner at
"A"
and the corner
at
"B"
and have
a sense of this
scrolled up effect or this
curved
up effect
as
if
it
is
a plate, piece of something,
metal,
metallic,
that
is turned
up.
Now here's
another one.
Appears
to be an unfolded box.
PAUSE
As
if you took the
.
.I'm running out of letters.
If you took the drawing that
is
at
"Y"
and curled
up in the direction of the
arrow,
this projection
on this plate,
you'd wind up with the drawing that
is at
"X".
And there appear
to be
four of the same
size.
There
is
a sense of
it being an open and
park like
area.
I don't sense any structures.
I
had no
.
.
.
PAUSE
.
.
sense of there being any buildings.
This
is
.
.
I'm glad
I don't understand this.
Looks
like
a cloud
lay.
Shove
it down;
don't
worry about
it.
I had no sense of there being
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any buildings affixed to the area.
I have
the feeling that its
an outdoor park.
Some
place probably here on Post.
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Boy,
he's
just fascinated with this curled up
metal
.
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If this
turns out
to be all not there,
I'm
going
to be disappointed.
I've looked at the
same
dumb things from about four different perspectives.
PAUSE
By now,
you're beginning to wish that
I would
finish at least one sentence.
The typist is
going to be crying by this
time.
Okay.
I
had
the
feeling that
I was
in an outdoor kind of
display,
kind of like
a museum;
not the missile
down here but maybe an artillery display that I'm
not familiar with
.
.
that
I don't know about.
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Didn't get
a sense of there being mechanized
equipment unless
it was
the Drawing that
is at
3.
I know that there are park like places here on
Post and
I know.
.
I have
a sense that there are
displays of this
type here
on Post,
so I'm going
to say that
its probably
.
.
or analyzing,
say
that its probably at Fort Meade.
That there
is
some place on this Post that
is
a display of various
types of hardware,
field guns and things
like
that.
I
got
a sense of
it being
a flat park like area
with some fencing around.
Keeping people from
climbing on the field guns which seems
to make the
Army nervous.
And patting them and things
like
that.
I had the
sense that there
is
at least one
tree that provided
shade.
PAUSE
In the area.
That's back to the
left.
Back to
the left and behind the immediate area where
#11
was
.
Did
I
finally answer your question?
#66:
Yes.
Urn hm.
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#44:
I'd like
to
go back and go through the series
that
I did and see
if there's any questions that
you have and make sure that I've gotten down all
my perceptions.
#66:
Okay.
#44:
I think
I beat Number
to death.
Order of
magnitude on that
is
that
is quite
large.
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The corner here
I would estimate
to be at least
feet above the ground.
#66:
Twelve?
#44:
Yeah.
At least
feet above
the ground.
Now,
I
got
a glimmering that there were
two plates
as
at
"A"
and at
"B".
"C"
is
just an analytical
sketch.
The drawing at Number
2 was odd.
I had the feel-
ing that there was rectangular block
low down
something
like
a tombstone with a railing through
it.
The first perception that
I
got of the object
was
that it was
lower down and gray.
The second
percpetion of the object changed plain and changed
location.
So,
it may be that there are two objects
and may be that there are
two different flat brick-
a-linear items.
But
I had the sense of there being
words on both.
Explanative words.
And the ....
Humph!
Thelong rectangle
that projects through
the cube at
"A" may not be
a railing,
it might be
something in the nature of
a planter.
All
I
see
is
a dark
line.
But the drawing at
"B"
is definitely
a plate on
a railing.
Three
is
a cylinder,
a long tube
like cylinder,
.
.
that's projecting away from me and appears
to have
a curve
to be projecting past
a curve.
Now,
an analytical quesstimate on that
is
that
its
pole.
.
.
Almost certainly.
.
Now, wait
a minute.
I was going to
say almost certainly made out of
metal but it has
the same size correlation
as
telephone pole.
Could it be
a toy?
I don't know.
Some kind of
a giant jungle
jim thing.
Its
possible.
It has
the same correlation though
to
me,
analytically,
as the gun tube projecting over
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he front fender of
a tank would have.
Where
you have
a curved front fender and you have
the
gun tube projecting out from the rest of
the tank
is not drawn but
is off
to
the right.
Ya da da da.
Four
is
the same as Number
3 except drawn further
around clockwise,
no counterclockwise
to the right.
Moving to the right
so that the tube appeared to
be
projecting away from you more and
is
thus more
for
shortened.
Fatter.
Its too
fat
as
I've drawn
it.
Five was
two cylinders projecting through
a plate.
Now,
one of the things.
.
one of
the.
.
Let's
see,
I've tried
to draw this
twice unsuccessfully.
One of the things
that
if.
.
.
that suggested
itself to me was
a scroll
as
the
toro would be and
why its projecting at an angle through
a plate,
I don't know.
I had the
sense of
a two
.
.
cylinders being in relation
to
the rolled
scroll.
I've indicated that that
is Drawing
"C"
.
Up at
the
top corner
of the page.
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Six
I never described.
Never
(not audible)
.
It
is
a ball on
the top of a pyramid and
I had the
feeling that
it was
.
.
Now,
this
is the same
kind of
a thing that I've
seen
.
.
carved out of
stone
in.
.
.sandstone someplace,
I don't know
where or when.
But
it would be the decorative
top
to
a post on
a stone wall.
You have
the wall
coming in and you'd have this cap
at the top of
the
thing.
Had the same sense of order of magni-
tude
to be
inches on the base of the pyramid.
#66:
Okay.
#44:
It felt like stone.
With the exception of the ball
at the top which.
.
the ball,
the sphere appeared
or felt to be smoother than stone would normally
be
.
Seven,
I had the feeling that
I was back underneath
either
a curving roof or
a tree.
I had the feeling
that there was
a curving dark surface above me
as
if
I was standing back or moved back underneath
a
tree.
Or had walked.
.
no it was behind me,
darn
it.
Still behind me.
From the area
in question,
I had moved back and that this curving surface was
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