#01: Yeah. #66: I want you to tell me about that. #01: Okay. He's holding this tube like thing with capped ends. I'll draw a picture of it, It will be page 1, and got an impression like it was a container or something, because it was actually ......like a protective outer wrapping of some sort, that you would roll up valuable papers or something and put into...... Kept trying to see what was in it, and I kept getting this....this crinkled feeling. You know, Like when you look at a piece of aluminum foil. These look like grooves. This design type .......(mumbling) I also had the feeling at first that like it was made of cardboard, but then when you had me put my hands on it, and pick it up it was heavy. Which I wasn't prepared for that. I was prepared to feel this light cardboard tube, and it wasn't. But, I still got a feeling like it was some kind of fiber. These are the caps on the end, and. that's the tube, and it was about 2 inches in diameter and about 12 inches long. #66; Okay. At one time you said 18 and. then you said.-.e-. #O1: Yeah. But, it wasn't that, it wasn't that long. It was a lot shorter. The second item, I kept....just started popping in my mind. Tididn't see it. This is just the thing that started popping in my mind. We were talking .«.was this...like black plastic square. It had like a metal radius. I don't know how to explain that, but I can _ draw it. I don't know what to call it. Now, these blackened ends here were like metal, so I got a feeling like the...this spiral lines going out were metal and. the rest of it was composed of plastic or something. Don't think I got the foggiest of what. it is, but this kept popping in my mind. #66: Okay. You saying that you didn't see this as an object of the target, but that it was an image that kept coming to you. #O1: It was an image as we were talking about, you knov, what's he doing...uh...what does the tube mean, and all sort of thing... This is an image that kept coming to me, so, you know, I felt I should mention it. I don't know, I don't know what this is, but, I feel like it's got sdmething to do with the reason he was talking and everything else. Same time I was getting an impression like there's a third part, portion, or piece or something that isn't there....that's missing......0h, and this is about 1 and a half....one and a half inches.....and seo. Approved For Release 2000/08 Pyo-0 N788R000400250004-1
Approved For Release 2000/08 gadaialie #01: #66: #O1: #66: #01: #66: #01: #66: #01: #66: #01: #66: #01: #66: Approved For Release 2000/08 pRSEACIy 88R000400250001-1 Probably one and a half by one and half inches, by..... one 16th of an inch in thickness. I saw metal strips with plastic or something..... and I got a feeling like the car was parked next to the water, and there was like these..... large silver buildings behind it. It leoked like blocks.... standing on their ends. That's about it really. Okay. Anything else you want to. say about your explorations with the tube? Thought there might be come kind of foil paper or something wrapped inside..... that too might have been a protective covering for a photo or a paper or something. I don't know I didn't sense like there was anything.... You know. There was no electronics in the tube, and there was no..... object, you know, specific object. It was something just coiled in the tube, I don't know. All right. You said that they were speaking in a foreign tongue. of some kind. Mm—-hmm. It's like, something like a cross between French and German, you know, like Belgian, or, I don't know, what I remember Belgian to sound like, that's what it sounded like. You know, maybe I'll say French, or something. Belgian. A foreign tonqie, but you couldn't - Yeah, but I expec-, again I expected him to be speaking Russian or something, and he wasn't, he was speaking more Belgian or something. You would've recognized it if he was speaking Russian? Yeah, I think so. Okay. That's it. Anything else you want to add? There was one other impression I had, and that was sort of like a, an impression of looking at a, the top edge of a metal rail with spider legs, and I don't, I don't know if you have a drawing of that or not. It's just something that, you know, was there and then it went away, the impression. And I clearly don't know what it is, or how it's associated to anything at the target. Was just a clear impression all of a sudden of the thing with:spider legs, like. Rail with spider legs. I don't know. I don't have anything else to add. Okay, fine. 70788R000400250001-1
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