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OK.
Now,
you're still standing
at the front of the
double doors,
right.
Right.
Now,
turn around and look out away from the door
and describe what you see now.
PAUSE
I see
a gravel walk going around the trees with
flower
(mumbling)
in the center but there's no flowers
Just place for flowers.
Relax and concentrate.
Focus now
(not audible)
There's another building at the end of the path and
there's four guards
(mumbling)
Walk over
to those four guys and tell me about them.
Uh...they are just sitting there.
Not audible.
No.
Just. .uh. .appears to be..uh..
(mumbling)
Not audible
about the building you want to tell
It's a block
on side of
a block
(mumbling)
looks
like it was
(mumbling)
sit down on the ground.
Are these four guards standing at the entrance?
Across the front.
Not audible.
Four,
four steps. ... .ornate double doors of carved
wood.
Some... some kind of decorative panels on both
sides of -the doors.
Anything else you want to add.
You have been going
at this for quite
a long time.
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I
get
a strong impression that the guy with the
target
is a
..may be dealing in some kind of economics
of some
sort..
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Tell me what makes you
say that.
I don’t know.
Strong feeling.... a gut feeling.-
0k.
Why don’t you just relax now. .. .relax. .. .sit
up and draw
(not audible)
I
got
a tremendous feeling it’s very cold this night
in Teheran.
(Drawing)
The image I’m getting in this room is a brick wall
on this side with no windows.
It’s not
a very good
brick wall but
with this in wall being like
a
tan wall and this wall having
a door down at the other
end.... this being like
a heavy wooden door.
Back
here is like a cot type
a; very low cot type thing.
And
there’s one person sleeping on this cot.
How do you
like that for sleeping person.
And then there’s another
cot type.. this is
a very fancy drawing. .. .sleeping
there.
I get a real strong impression,
for some reason,
that there was a third person in this room,
up
to like
two days ago,
three days ago or something.
And,
they
got moved.... I guess what gives me that feeling....
I
feel like there’s been
a third person sharing with these
people.
I don’t know how to explain that.
But,
it’s
like.
. . .uh.
.
. .1
don’t know.
Maybe it’s the way they're
thinking or something.
Strong impression there was a
third person sharing their problem.
As you come out of this room.... Oh,
and there's like
... .uh. .. .there' s
a brown rug
with a print design.
It's not
a wall-to-wall
rug., .it
1 s__likk.*_.it fills
most of the room,
but,
it' s. .uh. .you know it r s one of
these that goes up
to the edge of the walls. .. .and.
.
- uh-rvrrtfiat'rs a tan wall.
This is sort of a light red
brick.
Now,
this door over here,
is that the only door to that
room?
Into that
room,
right.
It’s the only door into that
room.
It’s on page one.
That room on page one.
I
got the feeling like.... ok,
I’ll draw this room...
I got the feeling like you came out of the door of
this room and there was
a hallway and
I went to the
left and there was another room just exactly identical
to the left... and,
we’ll call this room page
one.
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//And this room was the furniture room.
Just had
a
//whole bunch
of furniture
in
there.
Now,
this is a
// difficult part,
because
I
am not entirely sure how
^
I
was seeing this fire door.
I
got the impression
that this hallway went
to
the right and there was
like
a fire door here
or something with
a push bar.
This hallway made like an
L,
and this was part of
another L that went like this.
This was outside and
this is inside,
and after you made the left
in the
hallway,
where this arrow
is,
I went down here.
This
wall,
for some reason
I
got the impression the
wall-.s
//a divider.
You know,
like it was
a fake wall,
you
/| know,
and you went down the end of this hall and
//| made another left,
and on your immediate right was
*
big glass double doors and on your left was like small
sets of double doors... went down the front like that.
Like maybe this was an open area inside.
Entry doors
right here.
Let's
go back here to this turn in here that you...
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You
see what
I'm talking about.
It's like an
L
fastened to an
L with
a zig zag.
OK-
I
just
(mumbling)
this side like
(not audible)
and this is another hallway.
You go down
/I got the impression that this is another hallway
/
/and over here,
going down this section of hallway
/
I going towards the glass entry doors on this side, /
! is like
a large room.
There was
a reception area/or
? something.
All right.
So this area back
in here we can describe
as being part of
a
U.
Like
a horseshoe.
Yeah.
You know there's
a horseshoe section of this
building because this is clearly outside and
I got
...I came down here.
I was given the impression
of
some kind of
a garden.
OK.. and
I was trying to go
over the building to see what was on the other side
and
I was running into this blank wall.
These blank
...this horseshoe blank walls
on the inside here,
and
I wasn't getting over the building.
That clearly
was some kind of
a reception
or something.
The entire
building is very dark except for this back hallway
in
the room back here
Let's stay
on that second page.
What do you mean
except for this back hallway
as far as lighting goes.
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I got the feeling there was subdued lighting
in
this back hallway.
Furniture room and room that
I
drew
on page one and that as soon as
I made this turn
in the hallway
up here,
the only
thing that were on
were. .uh. .you know these fire emergency
light type
things.
. .that you could walk around this whole building
and everything was very
dark.
OK.
Then you went outside the building.
Right.
By the glass entry doors... I
got the feeling
that.
.
. .ok.
.
. .on page three... now,
I don't know if this
is
an:
accurate description of the design of the
building but looking at it from the front angle... I
show you the perspective that
1 was getting.
I was
getting a..uh..I
don't know
if
I can render this very
/well.
I was getting the impression of a..uh..like
a
/double design in the brick wall
in the front this way
-with
a. .uh.
. .like design going up that way and that way.
Looked like
a big. .uh.
. (mumbling) one
I
(mumbling)
call
a number symbol or something with the double glass
doors.
What was this design numbers symbol you were talking
about?
This... this thing.
Like.. I' 11 do it over here
in the
corner.
I was getting that impression number symbol.
Oh,
I see what you. ..ok. .like
a tick-tack-toe pattern.
Right.
Exactly.
That's. .that' s the impression
I was
getting
of the front of this building.
And there was
this corner,
over here,
and
I
got the impression the
building wfeht back like this and then did a..uh..a
ntest design.
This is the impression
I was getting with
a Bouptf^yard .
.
. and
I... you know... I
felt
more
like
an
5 then
I remember
a court yard here... and I'm not vsry
clear about the wall
I've got the S's on. ..and this was
a garden here... and back here was a hole... some kind of
a buryier.
. .1 didn't want to go through,
for some reason,
.. .and. .uh. .back here,
where the stars are... those were
the guards.
Ok.
Where was this room that you were talking about
now?
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The room is.. uh.. room page one.
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Can you tell me anymore about this barrier. . .this
hole?
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I
don't know what that was.
It was just like
a
void.
I
don't. ..you
know
it. ..it was just like
there was nothing there.
I
don't know
if
I was trying
to bar
that out
of my mind or..... I
just.... it was like
a void.
Where are these fire doors that you saw?
Oh.
There were trees here.
Where
I
draw in these
two trees
...(mumbling)
was
a profusion of trees
in
both corners. .. .and.
. .uh. .this was clearly
a garden
back here where the guards were.
There appeared to
be some kind of
a fire door.
I guess
I’ll mark those
with Xs and circles.
There's
a fire door here,
there
s
a fire door here,
there's
a fire door here,
and a fire
door here.
That's the impression that
I
had.
These
were doors... flat faced.. no exterior hardware and I'm
assuming them to be fire doors.
You know,
they could
have been
I don't know
a place where you pick
up the garbage,
or something
and...uh...I got the
impression this was
a walk path.
Like you couldn't..
you couldn't drive up here. .. .and.
. .uh.
. .let' s see
it
all.
oh!
it's a flat roof,
for some reason
that's important ... flat roof.
OK.
Then you talked about this path and you said there
was another building at the end of the path.
No.
Wrong path.
^
VJrong path.
OK.
Page four.
With my back to the glass doors.
If
I
was standing in front of the glass doors with my bac
flat against them... what
I was looking at was something/
that went away
in the distance.
It looked like
a
/
planting area for flowers and there was
a gravel path
j
...both sides... like this and there was..uh..
real
//
profusion of trees.
You know.
Like it's all grown
//
over
like that.
. .that' s all these trees
grown
/
.
back there
.you're going to haveJ^L_get me to an
art school,
or something.
You knpw,
it's almost
like a tunnel
in the trees.
They^re just all overgrown.
Where
is this building over here?
The building that
you’ve been
in.
That's back in here,
someplace.
No,
no.
That's with my back flat against these glass
doors of the building on page three looking straight
out ahead over the walk path
I see another gravel path
that is like two lanes with
a flowers
flower area
in the center.
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