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MEMORANDUM
FOR RECORD
SUBJECT:
Minutes of the Grill
Flame Committee Meeting,
Feb 79
(U)
1.
(U)
The Grill
Flame Committee meeting was
held at 0930,
Feb
79.
2.
(U)
Attendees:
Dr.
Vorona,
DIA
SGI
I
MAJ
Stoner,
ACSI
Mr.
Kramar, AMSAA
COL
De Prospero, AMSAA
Mr.
Graff,
AF' FTP
bbl
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MAJ Watt,
INSCOM
Mr.
Green, MIRADCOM
Mr.
Dailey,
USDRE
3.
(U)
As
a result of discussion on access
to GRILL FLAME
information,
a master list of Grill
Flame Committee representatives was established
(Incl
1).
All
information
should
be
sent through agreed-upon security chan-
nels
to these representatives;
secondary distribution
in
each organization
is
to
be determined
by that organization.
4.
(U)
The goals and objectives
of the committee
as agreed to
by the
attendees
are attached
as
Incl
2.
5.
(S-ORCON)
Dr.
Vorona reviewed
the briefings
presented
to the House
Select Committee
on
Intelligence on
Feb
by himself and
Hal
Puthoff
and
Russ Targ of SRI
as well
as the discussions
that followed.
One of
the primary concerns
is
the
level
of funding
for
SRI.
Up through
March
1979,
the following monies
have
been allocated:
$1 00K from FTD
$11 5K from AMSAA
$ 20K from DIA
Beginning
April
1979,
the following monies are proposed for allocation
to SRI
:
$ 75K
ACSI/ INSCOM/AMSAA
SGI
I
$ 35K
$75
to
$1 00K
MIA
$
50K
DIA
$100K
AMSAA
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Congressman
Rose recognized
the critical
financial
situation of the SRI
program.
In response
to Congressman
Rose's
inquiry as
to what the Com-
mittee could do.
Dr.
Vorona commented
that
a
strong
letter
to
DoD should
remove the reluctance
of some people
to
deal
with
the subject of psycho-
energetics.
6.
(S-ORCON)
In addition
to further discussions of optimum funding
levels for
SRI
(400-500K/year)
,
other outside sources
of the capability
as well
as ongoing
and
proposed
in-house
programs were discussed.
7.
(U)
It was
suggested that the next meeting
of
the
Grill
Flame Com-
mittee
be
scheduled
for
the
end of March
79.
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GRI LL
FLAME COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES
MIA
Primary:
Randy Clinton
Alternate:
Charles
Carter
ARMY ACS
Primary
MAJ
Bill
Stoner
Alternate:
COL Jack Capps
AMSAA
Primary:
John
Kramar
A1 ternate:
COL Albert
De Prospero
FTD
Primary:
Dale Graff
USDRE
Primary:
Dr.
Ruth
Davis
Alternate:
Lowell
Dailey
Navy
SGI
I
Primary:
Dr.
Bill
Mehuron
INSCOM
Primary:
MAJ
Scott Watt
Alternate:
1LT
Fred Atwater
AIR STAFF
Primary:
LTC Michael
Bloom
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PROPOSED GOALS FOR THE GRILL FLAME PROGRAM
(U)
»
Scientifically investigate accepted
potential
military aspects
of psychoenergetic phenomena.
This would
include remote viewing,
com-
munications
and psychokinetic modes.
These efforts would
involve only
willing
and knowing participants and would exclude the use of drugs,
hypnosis or other artificial
forms
to alter mental
states.
Develop suitable
scientific experiments
and evaluation metho-.
dologies for conducting and assessing
the results of these investigations.
s
Investigate significance of foreign
technical
and military psycho-
energetic efforts,
assess
potential
threat posed by these developments
and
identify countermeasures.
(S-ORCON)
The Working Group will:
•
Respond to approved requests for information
on psychoenergetics.
s
Act as
a clearinghouse for exchange of information and
tech-
nologies among DoD participants.
«
Appoint
a subcommittee
to monitor protocols and ensure compliance
with the
legal
aspects of the program.
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