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confirmation that's laid onto this truck can do very
well without the truck.
But,
that one of it's
modus operandi,
if you will,
is to be loaded onto this
truck,
or possibly
just
a transportation reason.
I
don't know.
#10.5:
0k.
#01:
I
don't they're integral to each other to operate.
either one;
but,
they are made to
go together.
#10.5:
0k.
Would you be able
to comment on any possible
mechanical interfacings that you have
in your sketch
on
3,
you've placed
a cherry picker type device on the
#01:
Yeah.
There's
#10.5:
rear portion
of the vehicle,
and
I'm trying to see
if
you have
a
#01:
Yeah,
I think it's got
a capacity.
The truck's
probably
got
a capacity
to onload or offload this....
lift this shield thing.
Uh
I
also,
you
know,
I keep referring to
it as
a shielded
or
a shield type
thing.
And,
the reason why
I
do that is...uh
inside of me,
analytically,
I want
to say,
ah.. ah..
I
know what's
in this shield thing. ... .you know
we got a rocket in here,
but
I can't
do that
that's the point
I'm trying to make.
I don't know
why
I can't do that.
There's something about
it that
disturbs me.
#10.5:
0k.
I understand.
Fine.
It's good that you're keeping
it
right there.
#01:
Perhaps
it' s used as a dust
type. .. .uh. .. .dust free
environment for transporting this element,
whatever
it is.
I
don't know.
#10.5:
Uh....ok. .....now there's another interesting image
apparenatly associated with
a vehicle.
Whether it's
the same or not.
You had early.,
in the session
uh..ok...a new truck,
metal shielded on them....
some kind of cover;
smooth.
Looked like trucks,
but
funny looking. .. .off center.... no shield on the back.
That's that.
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#01:
Yes.
#10.5:
Now,
ball-coned type affair toward the back of the truck
large clamp devices hold
the shielding
on
it.
#01:
0k.
#10.5:
Uh... working with or used well-machined metal.
0k.
This molded machine metal
is coming through,
and
you have this feeling of
a ball-cone. .. .which later
on
in your session. ..... .we
can compile them on... if you
feel that's appropriate.
. .that later
on
in your session
you had
varying feelings
of combinations
of balls and
cones.
#01:
Yeah.
I did.
. .and.
. .uh.
. .what
I'm getting is..uh..
this is going to look very strange,
but,
I'm getting
a cone,
ok,
inside of
a cone,
inside of
a cone,
and then
there's like
a ball type contraption.
And,
there's
a
cone that looks like this with
a ball behind
it,
and
then,
I
get like
a triangular pattern
of cones,
and,
I don't know why
I'm getting these great variations of
cone patterns.
I'm trying to remember.
I
get also
like.... what looks like
a... this kind of affect.
Like
three balls together,
and,
there's one other variation
I was getting.
I don't know.
These are just variations.
Page
4.
Just cone and ball variations.
I think the most predominant one that
I
got that was
the clearest was probably the cone inside the cone inside
the cone.
Like taking
a bunch
of dunce caps and stacking
'em one
on top
of the other.
#10.5:
0k.
Why don't you label that A there.
#01 :
#10.5:
#01 :
0k.
And
B
is the cone
on
the ball,
and
C
is the
cones all coming together,
and D is the three balls
fastened together.
0k.
Am
I
correct.
When there was an association
with
a truck... toward back of truck.
. .unidentified truck
at
this point in
the
session.
Uh
Yeah.
I
don't know if they're coming off the..uh..
you know... part of the cherry picker device,
you
know.
Like
an extender type piece,
or they're part of the
engine part,
you know,
like an exhaust port
on
the
engine part that lifts the cherry picker arm.
You know.
I'm not entirely
sure what
it
is,
but it's somewhere
in the back one-third
of the truck,
ok,
somewhere,
and
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close
to the cherry picker arm,
ok.
Like
in the
base
of the cherry picker arm.
Definitely.
It's at
the very base of the cherry picker arms where
I'm seeing
these cone patterns.
0k.
Can you put together
a sketch of that area of
the vehicle?
Jeze'
no.
I couldn't
do
it.
0k.
But,
you located in what would be according to
sketch
3,
am
I
correct,
you located
in the right-rear
quadrant of the vehicle.
Right.
Exactly.
It's right at the base of the cherry
picker arm.
That's just where it
is.
0 k.
Cone inside the cone
is kind
of
a unique thing and
I
think that's important. .. .an extender exhaust,
or
something.
0k.
Now,
still exploring this area of the session...
Uh...#28 had you move up
in the second floor
area,
and you examined
that,
and then he had you
look down,
asked you what you
saw,
you saw the truck part^with
the covered shield feeling.
Right.
He wanted to... he asked you
to tell him about
it.
And,
your first comment was tubes inside tubes;
pipes
inside pipes.
Is that
I think
it goes along with the cone feeling.
The cone
inside cone.
I
just get a feeling these,
these round
shapes being one inside the other... like you would
sleeve something one inside
the other.
And.. ..uh.
. .look alot
like. .uh.
. .curved on
top;
painted
dark metal;
long,
thin flat sides,
and you were then
associating cones and balls. .. ..that' s what we're talking
about
in
3.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You
see,
these were kind
of like out
of
left field impressions.
I
don't
know.
Uh. .. .possibly also
a candidate for 4 is you had
a
feeling of thimble.
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#01:
#10.5:
Oh!
I
saw
Is that
of the type that you could put
it on.
Yeah.
I’ll put
it
on page
4.
I
saw
a smooth,
polished
stainless steel thimble.
I don't have any idea for
size,
but it was really pretty and it was exactly perfect.
And
it was definitely
a thimble.
E
is the thimble.
I
had
to report
it because
it was very clear impression
of
a thimble type design.
It was bright metal and
0k.
Moving on through this session #28 requested
you touch,
feel,
and explore the shield thing... uh
That's when
I started getting that semi-fake feeling.
For some reason.
0k.
You had the feeling of thinness;
strong sense of
disposable sensation.
Right.
You
know. .. .like let
' s truck these out to the
mountain and throw them off the mountain.
Sense of strong engine behind it..... and power behind
it.
But,
that,
am
I
correct,
is part of your conflict-
ing,
some had and some had
not,
feeling.
Yeah.
Right.
I
don't know why
I'm assuming.
0k.
I'm assuming some had and some didn't,
"cause that's
the only way
I
can rationalize the two feelings
at
the same time.
0k.
One last technical question,
I
think.
Do you
have
a feel
for the method of movement
of the vehicle
once loaded with
the shielded objects?
Were they
moved mechanically
to load or were they moved under
their own power.
No.
I
think they're driven up the ramp.
For some
reason,
I'm seeing them driven right up the ramp right
on the flat cars.
Flat bed railroad cars.
Then
tarped over and tied down,
chained down
or something.
0k.
Towards the end of the session #28 asked you
to
concentrate
on the shield and what was their ultimate
use.
You had the association
...your words here are
from my notes:
"primary purpose is to provide all-
weather protection for some kind
of launch vehicle."
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#01 :
#10.5:
#01 :
#10.5:
Yeah.
I
got
the impression that's what they were for,
but,
like
I
say... I
don't... that's an analysis,
on my
part.
I
do think,
regardless what they are used for,
that they are,
they are designed for all-weather protec-
tion.
You
know.
To permit use
in any kind of weather
and under any
kind of terrain condition.
I
got
a
tactical flavor out
of
it
in any event.
Anything else you would like
to add.
You were drifting
in time there and you did have
a jumble of impressions.
Is there... are there any impressions that you may not
have spoken about earlier that you'd like to speak
about now?
Uh..... .just that
I
felt
like this entire building
is
a more refined working area. .. .factory type atmosphere.
That all the necessary components are made elsewhere,
but
in the immediate vicinity,
incidentally.
I
get
the feeling like they don't bring them very
far,
and
that this entire city complex is heated off
a single
series of very large furnaces that are probably used
to smelt iron ore
or alloy metals,
and that alloy metals
are important
to what
is going on there.
And,
that.,
production
is important
to us and them,
for some reason.
The percentage of production
is just significant.
I
don't know if it's significant because it's less than
normal or
if it's significant because it's more than
normal.
I don't
know.
That's all
I
got.
0k.
That's all for me.
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data masked out so
it was not observable.
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the NE end
of the target structure was circled and was pointed out to #01.
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of target nature
(city,
valley,
industrial complexity
etc.)
and,
due
to involvement
in session CCC38,
aware that armor related
imagery could be associated with the target.
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(and used)
geo coordinates
as
an auxiliary targeting method.
#01 was directed
to
access the target 1000 hours,
1 Apr 80 space/time coordinates.
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