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#66:
This
will
be
a
CENTER
LANE
Interview
for
0900
hours
2 May
1984.
Following
is
a
pre-interview
briefing.
I
want
to
show
you
some
pictures
that
you’ ve
seen
before,
here
of
an
area
that
you’ve
described
previously
#01:
Oh,
yeah,
the
junk
room.
#66:
Junk
room,
okay.
Now,
what
we
want
to
do
today
is
we
want
to
go
back
to
the
junk
room
in
the
same
during
the
same
time
that
we
were
there
before
and
that
would
be
on
th
15th
of
March
1984,
between
midnight
and
3:00
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Now,
there
is certain
traffic
that
we
know
that
goes
into
that
room.
People
come
in
there
to
do
things
that
we
know
about.
The
situation
is
by
what
doors
do
they
gain
access
to
those
rooms.
Now,
one
of
those
pictures
has
a
door
in
it.
#01:
Two' of
them.
WORKING PAPER
That
1 s
the
same
door
is
it
not?
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#01:
No,
and
a
door
there.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
And
you
get
a
door
there.
#66:
Okay,
the
door
in
picture
is
actually
to
a
little
vault
there,
inside
there.
#01:
Okay.
#66:
So
it's
not
an
entrance
to
the
area.
#01:
Oh,
I
see,
okay.
#66:
And
the
door
in
picture
#14
#01:
14—
#66:
--picture
#14
is
not
a
secure
door,
it's
just
like
a
hallway
door—
#01:
--A
door
going
out
in
the
hall.
#66:
Okay.
But
that
whole
area
is
accessible
by
several
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ways,
the
area
in
general,
right?
#01:
Okay.
#66:
And
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
you
to
go
through
each
of
the
people
that
come
into
that
area
between
midnight
and
3:00
in
the
morning
on
the
15th
of
March.
Go
through
each
of
the
people
that
enter
that
area
and
describe
the
route
that
they
take
in
getting
to
that
area.
#06:
Okay.
Now
they
may
be
the
similar
route,
they
may
be
different
routes.
#01:
Okay.
#66:
Okay,
I'll
give
you
a
few
minutes
now
to
prepare
yourself.
Put
the
tape
recorder
on.
Relax
and
concentrate
now.
Relax,
relax,
relax.
Relax
and
focus
your
attention
solely
and
completely
on
the
room
in
the
photograph
I' ve
shown
you
and
describe
the
activities
of
15 March
1984,
15 March
1984.
#01:
I
got
ah.. guy
in
a....
black
suit
with
an
overcoat.
He's
getting
off
an
elevator
I
see
him
walking
up
a
short
flight
of
steps,
turning
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right
and
going
through
a
door,
then
going
through
another
doorway
where
the
door
is
already
open
into
that
room
He's
got
a
clip
board
and
he's
checking
things
off.
.....Cleaning
on
top
of
the
cabinets
of
some
kind
of
papers
He
doing
a
ah...
inventory.
Inventory
of
safe
in
the
corner
and
opening
it.
Now
he
is
leaving.
He's
going
out
a
different
way,
he's
going
through
the
other
room
in
the
front.
Seems
to
be
going
from
room
to
room.
....Now,
he's
met
somebody
else
and
they're
talking
They're
leaving
that
room
together,
making
a
right
turn
and
walking
down
a
short
hallway
to
a
....door
and
they're
going
through
that
door,
...
and
then
in
a
larger
room,
feels
like
it's
outside
the
area
though.
And
then
they're
looking
at
a
door,
it's
a
door,
talking
and
the
guy
in
the
black
is
leaving
and
the,
the
other
guy
through
the
door
and
back
to
the
other
room.
He's
typing
something
on
a
paper.
Sitting
at
a
desk
that's
shaped
in
a
"L"
shape
And
there's
the
other
guy's
ah
I
don't
know
if
this
guy's
before
or
after
the
others
Having
trouble
with
this,
it's
like
ah....
feel
like
I'm
looking
at
him
upright,
but
then
I’m
feeling
like
I'm
looking
down
on
him.
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#66:
Take
a
moment
to
focus,
I
will
wait.
#01:
Get
impression
like
he's
on
all
fours,
with
his
upper
torso
in
a
box
and
a
looks
like
he's
crawling
into
something
or
crawling
out
of
something
He's
wearing
dark
brown
coveralls
and
he' s
standing
up
and
it' s
like
a
storage
area
or
something.
He's
brushing
his
hands
off
and
he's....
looking
around.
Light's
very
dim
and
he's
walking
about,...
ten
paces
straight
ahead,
turns
to
the
right
The
guy's
in
a
hallway
after
he
makes
his
right,
he's
in
a
hall.
And
he
turns
right
into
another
area
and
on
his
immediate
right
is
a
door
and
he
goes
through
that
door
...
and
the
door's
already
open,
it's
like
blocked
open.
#66:
Describe
like
blocked
open.
#01:
... Urn .. impression
of
something
wedged,
cardboard
wedge
is
under
the
edge,...
something
to
do
with
ventilation,
heat
or.,
cooling
or
some,
something
to
do
with
air
circulation.
#66:
I
don't
understand
(mumble).
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