Tr eee niiatiniiny Approved For Release 2003/09/16 ei RDP96-00788R001700280017-7 ) ECE NOT RELEASABLE To 5 ECF I FOREIGN NATIONALS f Mt lM I~ISH SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME (U) it. can be determined can meet INSCOM's requirements at the least possible cast. WNSCOM-aise—desires_to-devetop persenret—in-the tess.of concentration_and—feets . ‘Cost. of-thrs tratring—ie—not iet-asatiapTe. (NOTE: DIA preposal states $120K from Army INSCOM ell to be funded for an SRI effort. DIA maintains that Army had previously agreed verbally to provide SLSOK, then $120K and now possibly even less than $120K. Both LTC Watt and MAJ Stoner disagree and LTC Watt has a Memorandum for Record to back up statement.) . (2) (S/NOFORN) DIA Made a unilateral decision to send the DIA primary contract monitor to SRI, Menlo Park, CA on Thursday “lst or Friday 22d of August. This was done prior to the MoU being approved by Director, DIA; Army, and Air Force ACSIs. NOTE: DIA svates no ene objected to the primary cofitract monitor going to the West Coast at the 18 Aug 80 meeting. Both LTC Watt and MAJ Stoner have gone on record previously objecting to the need for the contract maniter to physically locate himself at SRT for the following reasons: (a) (S/NOFORN) If the GRILL FLAME Committee is in Pact joint, the DIA has no right to make a unilateral decision such as they have prior to the MoU being signed. NOTE: DIA feels since OTA is funding Salyer's move it is no one else's problem. We feel if this decision is critized, DIA, Army, and Air Force will jointly bo held responsible since we are a joint committee, (b) (S/MNOFORN) If the primary contract monitor is Pocuted on the West. Coast with SRI, we question how he can best manitoer all additional contract efforts elsewhere. NOTE: DIA "eels since SRI is best qualified in this project they will now, vid probably continue to receive most of the contracts, therefore, .” makes sense to maintain the contract monitor at that location. (c) (S/NOFORN) The move of the primary contract monitor .O ORT totally disregards the recommendation of the Department of rhe Army GRILL FLAME Scientific Evaluation Committee Report, dated vocember 79, page 10, para 3b. "Dependence on the SRI approach should be phased out." NOTE: DIA feels the Gale Report is biased anid GRILL FLAME was doomed before it started, therefore, no one is going te accept its recommendations (especially when we are using veogram IIT funds vice Program VI. (ty) ’ 4 a Soe FOUN 2 slenge 26Gb bH/ MD) RTEEROP og;957paRDGN7ON289017-7 mat SUING FOREIGH WATIORALS
SG1J SG1J roved For Release TONAS - | L400; -7 FOREIGN NATIONALS D.AMI~ISH SOVBIECT: GRILL FLAME (U) (d} (S/NOFORN) The move of the contract moniter to oil potentially decreases the operational security of the project. Wal Puthoff and Russ Targ are well known as so-called experts in the PST area. To move a DIA contract monitor to work closely with them makes it difficult to deny DOD interest in PSI. NOTE: It avpears DIA believes both LTC Watt and MAJ Stoner “have it in” for Dr. Verona's office, specific ¥ Leeson all of these oojections are directed at At the risk Of being accused of parochialism, MAJ Hay does ne elieve this to be the case. Both LTC Watty and MAJ Stener believe that Salyer from the very bedinning constructed Aimself a position at SRI for personél gains, andt that he skillfullf# sold the idea that he fphoula be t "man" at SRI. has Couttmuly M3 Croresacted Sacedy L, ON Vortew @ . (U) IMPACT: a - a. (S/NOFORN) If our proposed draft MOU is approved, INSCOM will likely fund $70K for contracts with SRI. SRI initially felt nat it would be necessary to fund $500K to maintain an adequate rroqram in PSI but reduced that figure to $450K. That figure was further reduced to $390K for FY 81 by the GRILL FLAME Committee. Avcording to DTA, this will cause SRI to reduce the number of per- aommel working the project. If Army INSCOM further reduces the _dollar figure hyofiSeK, SRI may pull out of the program. DIA firmly believes SRI, as configured with current personnel, is a national aeset. MAT Hay thinks that is stretching things a bit far, but does believe SRI efforts should centinue if they can produce DOD requirements better than any other contractor at the least possible cost to DOD. Tf SRI did pull out, DIA's primary contract monitor weuld be left on the West Coast to monitor nothing,» possibly causing the contract monitor to bring civil suit against BeP™for creating family haredships, lass of funds, etc. This would cause an embarrass- ing situation for LTG Tighe and Dr. Verona. Although Army and Air berce are not formally a part of the Joint services GRILL FLAME Committee (no signed MOU) we have been very informally involved ‘ince 1978. This could cause some embarrassment to Army/Air Force. b. (S/NOFORN) If SRI does not "pull out" and the DIA monitor remains at SRI, there may be at a later date some question dealing with the objections listed in Paragraph 2(a)(b)(c)({d) above. Addittonally, there is the potential for questions to arise dealing with pessible canflict of interest, e.g., other contractors question fhe DIA primary contract: monitor located at SRI offering work to wther contractors without bias. 3 NR fa Fay pe oy ay poss oa RAK 7OOs8dO ETT ry they eee nai poo omelggnats RAPD if\ Ly .
Approved For Release 2003/0911 i ‘ 00788R001700280017-7 WIEWINIG | NOT RELEASABLE To FOREIGN RATIONALS * DAMI ~ ISH SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME (U) 4. (U) CONCLUSION: a. (S/NOFORN) Dr. Verona is angry because he believes Army iNSCOM is backing out of its commitment of $120K. His main concern appears to be the loss of the $120K from Army to go with the SRI program for FY 81. He feels strongly SRI will pull out if Army reduces the $120K further. b, (S/NOFORN ) The changing of the proposed MOU does not appear to bother Dr. Verona, except he does not feel, as program manager, he has to clear through the GRILL FLAME Committee before talking with Congress or anyone else about the program. a (U) OPTIONS: £ a. (S/NOFORN) Army withdraw from the Joint Service Program. Advantages Disadvantages (1) Freedom to spend Army money (1) We get less for our money when and where we desire, as Joint Service contracts provides benefits from DIA/USAF programs, i.e., exchange of information. (2) Manage our pregram without (2) Prevents duplication of voordination/approval of DIA. effort. (3) If SRI as presently staffed should be considered a very valuable asset to Army, the program would suffer if there is no joint service contract. 6b. (S/NOFORN) Army remain in the Joint Service Program as it 13 Yow operating. Progase d fy % ortfinal Wyo. Advantages Disadvantages (1) Most cost effective, (1) Army cannot spend money where they feel it can obtain best results. (2) Appears to be better managed/ (2) DIA makes unilateral decisions organized (at least on paper). without regard to service needs. Decisions could prove not in best interest of Army. (2) Keeps the SRI effort going as currently staffed which may or may not provide DOD with long term Peng es & ba See | (an. ne ee Gh - -OO788RUOT7BOLSdSTEVE TO popes Pr pace mong ~ rain FORE:GN NATIONALS WLTE OS CARY SERDET a
my L. I ‘ Approved For Release 2003/09/16 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001700280017-7 SE D NOY RELEASABLE To IGWINIC | FOREIGN NATIONALS DAMI-ISH SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME (U) c. (S/NOFORN) Army remain in the Joint Service Program but modified as follows: (1) (S/NOFORN) as Stated in our proposed MOU (TAB A), (2) (S/NOFORN) Go on record to object to DIA'ts unilateral decision for sending the primary contract monitor to SRI for reasons listed in paragraph 2a,b,c,d. (3) (S/NOFORN) Approve $50K end of year funds to go to DTA to ensure $120K Jeint Service Contract for FY 81 continues as "IA believed or stated they believed Army had committed prior. Advantages : Disadvantages (P) Keeps the Joint Service (a) Could anger DIA and cause Program alive at least for one them some embarrassment, year, (fh) Should be more cost effective. («) Should be better managed/ erqanized. (qd) Should eliminate duplication of cffors, (e) Should provide better exchange of information. (f) Should eliminate unilateral decisions by DIA, (a) Should allow Army INSCOM to obtain training from contractors other than ORT. ) Should allow advance Rv training and other beneficial training for 'NSCOM with the srr team. (i) Prevent Possible outside pop embarrassment for LTG Tighe and Dr. Verona, 5 FOREIGN NATIQUALS Me PL mae ay) SERRE 16-O078SROVPMOGLSGVEMBL!: TO Se ELS TAP PEPY ag For Relea 2002!
olla ed Approved For Release zor A RHP Fooreeroontoneresttoue 1 0 iGN NATIONALS DAMI--ISH SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME (U) 6. (U) RECOMMENDATION: Option C; if DIA refuses, go with Option A, MAJ Hay/50114 6 al Apprdved Por RERAS Os /00/ 4% et HD Po¢f oo7saRogtsad zap ONALS Bg Bie 3 Sas a