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There's
one
event
of
interest.
Describe
that
event
to me.
...See
a
long black
a ... limousine
.
It's
parked
in
a
gravel
area.
There's
three
men,
driver,
two
in
the
back.
There's
a
truck
with
a
cover
or
a
cab
type
arrangement ... .This
is
a
military
truck... and
it's
pulling
in
the
gravel
area.
And
there's
a
driver
and
a passenger
The
a .
. truck
.
. its
passenger
is..
goes
to
the
limousine. .. and
talks
to
one
of
the
passengers
of
the
limousine ... and
they
come
back
to
the
rear
of
the
truck... Then
look
at
a.
. .package, .they
open
the
package
and
look
at
it
.
.
. .The.
.
Tell
me about
this package.
The
impression
of .... documents
with
.
.
. a
.
. cut
away
...pictorial
representation
of .. aircraft ,
a.. black
box .. ideograms ,
diagrams .. a .. things
that
are
like
blueprints.
Get
an
impression of--a..
Tell
me about
the package.
Package
is
.
. a
.
.
You've
told me
about
some
sort
of
contents,
but
you
said there's was
a package.
Package
is wrapped
in
a... cloth,
it's
oval
in
shape,
a.. circular,
tubular,
a
.
.
. longated
.
Get
a
hardware
impression
of.. some
kind
of
some
kind
of
a guidance
nose
or
nose
cone
or
apparatus
I
can't
tell
if
it's
really
there
or
if
it
' s ... represented
in
the
documents
.
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All
right.
But
it's
wrapped
in
canvas.
Documents
are... in
a... like
a
cloth
of
bag
or
a.
. .zipperbag. .. .Passenger
of
the
truck
and
the
car
are.. they
go
back
to
the
car
and... second
passenger
from
the
car
is
going.. to
the
back
of
the
tr uck ... truck
passenger
and
the.. first
passenger
of
the
car
are
going
with
the
driver
of
the
car
to
a. ..a. .some
kind
of
a
building, .. that
' s
a
. .got
a
black
glass
doors
and
it's
like. .built
like
a
bank,
heavy,
heavy
type
building,
brick... And
they're
a.. doing
something
with
accounts
or
transferring
money ... filling
out
some
kind
of
paper
to
transfer
money
The
a.. second
passenger
in
the
car
is
looking
at
the
package
. .while
that's
going
on,
is
taking photos.
Describe
this procedure
to
me.
He's
a.. spreading these things
out
on
the
bed
of
the
truck
and... taking photos,
pages..
Okay.
Look
through
the
items
that
he
photographs
and
see
if
they're
all
the
same
type
of
items,
or
there
are different
items
there.
....Get
an
impression
that
I'm
looking
at
different
items ,.. different
time... I
keep
getting
a
very
strong
impression
of
the.. like
radars
at
one
point,
emitters
and
receivers ... then
another
time
I
get
impression
of
some
kind
of
air
to
air
defense
system.. And
then
I
get
an
impression
of
a
guidance
system
for
a
rocket,
an
air
to
air
rocket .... These
are—
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Okay,
I
don't
quite
understand, ^^^^^focu^nov^or^
there^s
an
activity
happening
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There's
a
man
taking
pictures.
Describe
the
items
that
he
takes
pictures
of.
# 01 :
It's
a... guidance system for
some
kind
of
rocket--
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#66:
Okay.
I
want
you
to
describe
the
physical
things,
not
what's
contained
in
them,
but
the
physical
things
that
he
takes pictures
of.
#01:
..He's
actually
photographing
a
real
rocket
nose,
it's
like
a section
of
the
rocket.
#66:
Okay.
Now
in
these,
in
these
documents,
he
photographs
a
blueprint
type
thing,
is
there
any
other
kinds
of
documents
in
there
or
any
other
objects
that
he photographs?
#01:
Ah.. there's
written
pages ,.. diagrams
. .what
appears
to
be
some
kind
of
maintenance
type
log ... urn. ... then
inventory
sheets
of
some
kind.
. .primarily
the
other .. they
' re schematics
of
the guidance
system.
#66:
Okay.
Now,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
something
you
said.
You
said
that
you
had
some
impressions
of
different
times?
#01;
...Yes,
like dif ferent ... different materials.
#66:
Break
this
out.
#01:
They're
not
there
now,
but
they
' re ... .photographed
too someway ... sort
of
like
it
took
two
trips.
#66:
Okay.
Tell
me
what
happens
after
he
finishes
photographing these things.
#01:
..He
a... puts everything back
in
the
box
and
the
bag
and... puts
everything
back
the
way
it
was.. and
he
goes
back
to
the
car
...and waits
for
the
others
to
come
back... Then
the
a.... others
come
back
and
they... talk
at
the
car
and.... the
guy,
the passenger
of
the
truck,
is
like,
he's
given more money ,... this
time
in
cash... And
he
goes
and
then
he
gets
in
the
truck
and
he.. drives
away.
#66:
Could you describe
this
truck
to me again?
#01:
It's
like
a
fairly
beat
up military
truck,
it's
gray,
but
it's
got
a... white
top
or
a
pattern
in
white,
on
the
ceiling ... and
a
dark
gray
almost ... char coal
cover
on
the
back.
It's
a
military,
a pickup
truck.
When
it
leaves,
it
goes.,
through
the
gravel
lot.. and
around
the
red
brick
building
and .. goes .... ah .. nor th .... goes
north.
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#66:
All
right.
Now,
you
said
in
this
pickup
truck,
there
were
two
individuals,
a
driver
and
a
passenger,
tell
me about
the driver.
#01:
An
impression
he's
working
for,.. doing
this
is
as
a
favor
for
money.. for
his
friend.
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Describe him physically to me.
.. .Urn.
. .middle
late
twenties,
probably
twenty-seven .. 5
'
6".. 145
pounds ,. .military ,
he's
military.
Break
this
out.
A.
. impression
of
a
military
uniform,
some
kind
of
work
f atigues
.
. .his
baseball
cap
is
blue.. some
kind
of
white
letter
on
the
front. ..He's
a ... a .. immature
in
a way.
Break
this
out.
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. Ah
.
.
.
Raw data?
.
. .Urn.
. .doesn' t
understand what's
going
on... doesn't
care.
. .Ah. .single,
E5,
E4,
He's
an
E4. .needs
the
money,
just does
this
for
money... It's
just
one more
job
to
do.. He's
like
a
hustler .. .Ah .. get
the
impression he doesn't
really
know what's
in
the back
of
the
truck.... but
the passenger
does.
The driver,
describe his place
at work.
....See
a
row
of
like.. a
six
dorm
type
buildings .. .wait
a
minute,
that's
overlay .. .Ah ... see
a.. it's
like bins,
some
kind
of
storage
bins,
tables
with
tools ... large
building
like
an
aircraft
hanger ... lots
of
tools and cages,
wire cages
. .parts
.
.
Now,
you
said,
in
the pickup
there
was
a
passenger.
Starting
with
the
incident,
tell
me
about
the
passenger.
Tell me
about
this passenger.
Urn.
. impression
he
is
also military,
but
of
a.. higher
grade,
like
a
E7,
E8...He's
friends with
the younger
man.
He's
a. .36,
35. ..5'
7",
5'
8",
165
pounds,
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