Deletion of Ahmed Mohamed (student)

Comment: Textbook example of 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: setting apart from what an encyclopedia is supposed to be is, as already said, a textbook example of , but also . As a personal note: this guy doesn't need all this kind of attention, he's already a victim, his life shouldn't become the battleground, even of such a noble battle as fight racism and xenophobia is
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:10YEARS)

Comment: I don't understand, |assuming good faith, how people could possibly support keeping the article given that its circumstances are textbook violations of long-standing and well-documented Wikipedia polices ( and ). I don't thinking the policies could possibly be any clearer than this. Also note that these events are already covered Zero_tolerance_(schools)#Media_attention|here, so the article is just a big redundancy
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Assume good faith (WP:AGF||WP:NOTNEWS||WP:BLP1E)

Comment: per the wide coverage of the subject which satisfies , but rename to the incident rather than the biographical subject. Or if that fails as an option, it at least deserves mention on the school's article
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)

Comment: It's no longer  The invitations from the president, MIT and various other institutions are separate events, notable, and covered in reliable sources. It makes sense to keep it as a stub and build it up as the already notable, reliably sourced invitations come to pass as additional events. Also, Hullaballoo makes a good point. Users will come here to find out what's known about the subject. There's enough here for a stub and we look stupid if we have nothing. Weak support for renaming to "Incident" if "Keep" doesn't garner the consensus it ought to.  If so, his name should remain on the dab page, for people searching for him and unaware of the byzantine wikiways that got the article changed to "incident". But really, if one is building this encyclopedia for users, one should think about the way users will use the encyclopedia. Please note, this is not a case of . There's plenty of policy based analysis that would support a "keep". ONEEVENT, and BLP1E don't compel changing this to "Incident" or deleting it. NOTNEWS is just plain dumb as a reason
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:IAR)

Comment: to an an article about the event. Still 
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: per  and . A mention at the high school's WP page is sufficient.Special:Contributions/173.218.58.224|173.218.58.224
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: per the |one-event rule; failing that we should '''rename''' the article to "Arrest of Ahmed Mohamed" or similar, because it's the event, not the individual, that possesses notability. I'd caution participants in this discussion to avoid arguments based on furthering social goals against xenophobia, because—as worthy a cause as that is—per |neutral point of view it's not Wikipedia's place to be taking a stand on it. {&#123
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NPOV)

Comment: Per  and 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: clear , but the event is notable (although fleeting
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: per . "Sparking massive outrage", "Being an internet sensation" does not make a low-profile individual notable. A mention in the institution's article would be more than enough
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:SINGLEEVENT)

Comment: per wp:Notnews|NotNews.  A very unfortunate, and very forgettable, incident of no encyclopedic value.  Further, there is  , , and .  Each of these '''—BY THEMSELVES—''' is reason for deleting this article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:SINGLEEVENT||WP:BLP1E||WP:AVOIDVICTIM)

Comment: WP:BLP1E and . The individual is clearly not notable
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: BLP1E NOTNEWS and there are tons of kids that draw pictures of guns that get detained and we don't need cruft like that.  {{Inappropriate comment|reason=See  and  WP:TPG|action=tag|comment=If he uses his clock to blow something up, we can add it later
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP)

Comment: to perhaps Incident at MacArthur High School (2015).  As being the events surrounding one person,  is exceeded and  tells us that an article is not automatically disallowed by being a BLP1E.  My thought is that this exceedingly well-sourced article should be less about the boy, and more about the ignorance and overreaction of those set in authority who do NOT understand the science or persons they were set to judge.  The teacher messed up. The school administration messed up. The police messed up.  Mistakes by authority happen, and such blatant errors need to be seen under a strong light.  Sad that it took their errors to get him a presidential invite to The White House
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BASIC||WP:PERP)

Comment: He was handcuffed and moved to the police station; it was the http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/arrest-detention.htm arrest and the http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/arrests_and_searches/police_arrest_procedure.htm detention. The subject story is not the news that is the event, occurred with the subject because of his invention of the clock, the notable work of the Teener student. I do not doubt otability (events)|notability for the event of the subject that he passes. The suitable rename is '''Event of Ahmed Mohamed
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N)

Comment: Clearly |one event and "person should be covered in an article regarding the event, with the person's name as a redirect to the event article placing the information in context." (
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:SINGLEEVENT||WP:PSEUDO)

Comment: as the very definition of . Will you remember him a year from now? I suspect we'll see great things from him in the future, but he has not invented anything yet
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: BLP1E and |TOOSOON. The incident is mentioned in the article on the school; that's sufficient until Mohamed establishes notability
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Too soon (WP:TOOSOON)

Comment: to Arrest of Ahmed Mohamed. Obviously this doesn't violate  (I wonder who even suggested it in the first place, because that idea is really stupid), though  would be an issue unless you rename it. The arrest is obviously notable, so I don't know where all these delete votes came from
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS||WP:BLP1E)

Comment: As per  and 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: completely fails otability (people). This kid is not going to be relevant a week from now. Delete it fat
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N)

Comment: Per . Only a single event like this can't make a person notable enough to have a WP article on his/her name. But, as Barrack Obama, Marc Zuckerberg etc. influential persons has concentrated on this event or incident, so this incident or event can be an article. But the boy hasn't done any notable deed so that there should be a WP article created
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: Straightforward, unequivocal example that should be deleted in full accordance with , and also  ...all the ''keep'' votes violate  and probably haven't read it for all its unambiguous worth. This is a story no one will remember a month from now...much less 10 years from now.  Claiming this incident is notable or that it will have a lasting impact (or repercussions) is ludicrous
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NOTNEWS||WP:MINORS)

Comment: Non-notable person, per 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:1E)

Comment: WP:SINGLEEVENT is about "whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both", it is not a standalone reason to delete an article about an individual. You possibly meant , but the follow-up reactions including a White House invitation would, I think, count as multiple events
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: I really dislike that the nominator is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Action_Hero confirmed '''sockpuppet''', and I question the efficacy of continuing an AFD created by someone with |an '''agenda'''.  I suggest it be closed by ANYONE as '''No consensus''' with leave to be re-opened by a non-sockpuppet
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point (WP:POINT)

Comment: The article strikes me as being rather |news-like, but the arrest of Mohamed has triggered a massive response and intense coverage from a wide variety of sources, which has lasted a week and counting. I think at this point it’s too early to tell whether the arrest will have lasting impact, so I would recommend keeping the article now per . Let’s wait a month or two to see if this has any lasting impact and act accordingly.  Also, I support renaming the article to Arrest of Ahmed Mohamed
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS||WP:RAPID)

Comment: WP:BLP1E + .  Wikipedia needs higher quality articles, not more fluff like this
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: Clear case of  – Mohamed is an otherwise low-profile individual known only for this one event
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: to Arrest of Ahmed Mohamed or Ahmed Mohamed incident or other appropriate title. I'm sympathetic to  arguments with respect to BLP. But the ''episode'' unquestionably merits inclusion by |Wikipedia's criteria (significant, world-wide coverage by numerous top-end reliable sources such as the NY Times, BBC, and so on). It's as much or more about the reaction of the school district, public figures and others rather than the young man himself. If he becomes an award-winning engineer or otherwise notable in his own right we can revisit whether to have an article on him
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:SINGLEEVENT||WP:N)

Comment: Nobody'll remember this in 10 years.  and be done with it
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:SINGLEEVENT)

Comment: This is a textbook case of . We need to uphold our guidelines which enjoy broad consensus, and not get carried away by the emotions of the moment
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: Classic case of 1E. The young man is not notable by our standards. It's a shit storm in the media, but everything is a shit storm in the media (perhaps the authors of this article want to devote their attention to Summer of Trump?). So what if Obama tweeted about it too? That's what Twitter is--everyone does it, for everything. Redirecting to the "event" makes no sense either, since there really is no event by our (encyclopedic) standards. A redirect to the school is the most we need--and let us not inflate that school's article either. I wish we spelled |'''NOTNEWS''' bold, and in all-caps
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: and rename to comply with BLP1E. The event here is significant as it is widely covered in diverse sources and meets criteria laid out at 
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:EVENTCRIT)

Comment: per  and 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS||WP:BLP1E)

Comment: per ,  and . No move to an article about "the arrest" is appropriate because he was handcuffed and detained but not arrested, as pointed out above. The delete is "weak" because there  is followup  coverage about the "invented" clock just being a routine 1970's Radio Shack alarm clock which had been removed form its case without any circuit modification, and the incident might have some continuing coverage. See for example the Balloon boy hoax
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:MINORS||WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: per : "''Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events.''" This is a  classic storm-in-a-teacup that causes a short-lived media frenzy and will be forgotten in months
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTNEWS)

Comment: per  and 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NOTNEWS)