Deletion of The Irving Literary Society (2nd nomination)

Comment: Even if the sources noted previously only refer to the pre-1888 version of the ILS, it establishes notability for the ILS. |Notability is not temporary. The article may need modification to focus more on the older form of the society, but I don't see it requiring utter deletion
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NTEMP)

Comment: per  and per the original discussion.  The sockpuppetry on the DRV was apalling, but equally appalling was the closing admin's apparent failure to notice it
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:ORG)

Comment: as individually notable. Per , it's appropriate there be a summary at the general page for the literary societies ''and'' and individual article. Regardless of prior sockpuppet activity, we're judging the article now. The relationship with the present fraternity seems real,   but needs to be de-emphasized, as there is no indication it is presently important. The general information of Cornell literary society  history is properly in the general articles and can be removed here. I did some editing accordingly. More is needed if  the article is kept, but I wanted to get it started
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Summary style (WP:SS)

Comment: Whilst the article has been rewritten I still have the same concerns as I did at the first AFD. i.e. that  is not met sufficiently for a standalone article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:ORG)

Comment: If this page is kept, can it ''please'' be moved to a final appropriate title with all the histories and redirects sorted out once and for all? '''The Irving Literary Society''' is not suitable for two reasons: (1) Per  and the historical sources, "The" is not part of the title of the organization and should not be part of the article title (2) There are several entities in the US called the  "Irving Literary Society", most of which have a longer and well-documented history and are more notable than this one. I would strongly suggest using Irving Literary Society (Cornell University).Also, a user who has just registered today
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (WP:MOS)

Comment: I have read the various sources recently added to this AfD.  There is nothing to establish a direct lineage to the Irving Literary Society that existed before 1888.  Some self-generated public relations material claims that this particular social fraternity is trying to keep the spirit of the Irving Literary Society alive, is its "steward" or has somehow "absorbed" Irving's legacy, but that does not represent a reliable source independent of this fraternity reporting that Irving continued on in this manner.  Whatever notability the pre-1888 Irving had cannot be automatically transfered to the PKP fraternity, which is clearly a different organization, with a different membership criteria and a different purpose. Present day PKP is distinct from pre-1888 Irving just as Cornell University is distinct from Cornell College &mdash; similar names is not enough of a link.  This POV fork is based on the assumption that both PKP and Irving are undisputably the same organization. I hope that the closing administrator will apply the  policy and count the multiple users sharing the same IP address as just one !vote
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry (WP:COWORKER)