Deletion of Atour Sargon

Comment: As I've said before, this "not meeting " argument assumes that the only reason she's notable is for the position. '''She's not.''' there's an entire Atour Sargon#activism|Assyrian activism section that shows her notability in ways that are completely divorced from the political position. this includes being a on an executive of two Middle Eastern nonprofit organizations, being a representative of the of the Assyrian community at a meeting with Member of Congress|Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, Mayor of Chicago Lori Lightfoot, and Second Lady of the United States Jill Biden, being involved with the Vote Assyrian's census project, and being a guest speaker at several large Assyrian public events. '''This, AFTER BEING COMBINED with the political career, is more than enough to establish notability as per ''', which was mentioned by several other users on this discussion. Her position is not the only thing that establishes notability, as evidenced by the sources that make no mention or little mention of her position but still mention notable activism that she's done. '''Either way, the article still meets ''' considering the fact that the section now cites 15 reliable sources, including ones with a national scope such as the ''Chicago Tribune'' '''AND''' including sources where she's the sole subject or a significant subject of the source (''The Assyrian Journal'' sources, the public speech sources, and the meeting with Schakowsky/Lightfoot/Biden source). '''This is a lot more than what can be said for many other stub-class biography articles on Wikipedia which are able to exist without question.''' This is a lot of coverage considering the fact that it's apparently an "insignificant position." '''The  thing doesn't apply because Assyrian people|Assyrian is an ethnicity, not a nationality, as per every single source on the Assyrian people Wikipedia page, as well as the common knolwedge that there is no modern country called Assyria  for her or her parents to be from or be a citizen of. There hasn't been one for thousands of years, so it isn't her nationality, nor her parents'. It's an ethnicity.''' So her accomplishments as an ethnic Assyrian activist should still be noted since those would be true whether or not she is an American by nationality. I am also happy to re-add the stub tags that other users removed (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atour_Sargon&diff=974200341&oldid=974163585) if that's a way to remedy this. I feel like that's a good solution '''considering the fact that the article is just as, if not more content-heavy and source-heavy than many stub-class biography articles on Wikipedia.''' The sheer size and amount of sources in the article show that it should exist in some form at per , so perhaps a stub tag is the way to do that. All in all, the subject of the article is discussed by many reliable/secondary sources for several different reasons, including sources with a national scope and ones where she is the sole subject or a significant subject of the source. Even if it's an "insignificant position," the amount of coverage she gets, both for reasons related and unrelated to the position, prove it should exist as per  and . Furthermore, the article has more content and sources than many stub articles that are allowed to exist on Wikipedia. For all these reasons, the article most certainly meets notability guidelines as per numerous Wikipedia policies, including , , . Thank you for listening
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NPOL||WP:GNG||WP:NPOL||WP:INHERIT||WP:GNG||WP:NPOL||WP:GNG||WP:GNG||WP:NPOL||WP:BLP1E)

Comment: I am sorry, but I don't know what is meant by bludgeon in this instance. I feel as if though the article meets notability guidlines as per several Wikipedia policies (see my previous comment), so I mentioned all of the reasons and responded to other people's concerns about this. At this point, it's becoming repition on both sides, as I have mentioned before that it isn't '''just''' the ''quantity'' of sources but rather the quality (see the Chicago Tribune point), the fact that she's at the center of many of them (the interviews/speeches, ''The Assyrian Journal'' articles, and the meetings with Schakowsky/Lightfoot/Biden point), and the fact that her political career, even if "insighnificant," deserves a spot on Wikipedia due to its combonation with her other accomplishments, for which there has been a lot of coverage relative to other stub articles on Wikipedia. My proposal to make this a stub article has never been responded to either, so I feel as if though that's the best solution because it allows the article to exist as per the fact that it meets  while still acknolwedging that there is a lot of work to be done. My reasons for why it meets  are above too. Thank you
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NPOL)

Comment: I would just like to point out since my last comment that the Atour Sargon#Politics|politics section of the article has grown substantially since it was last discussed on this board (see these diffs and note that the date/time difference is after the above comments and votes were posted: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atour_Sargon&diff=978994669&oldid=978372856 and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atour_Sargon&diff=978997332&oldid=978996281). It grew to the point where it needed to be split into two sub-sections (“election” and “as trustee.” Furthermore, the politics section now cites a total of about 15 sources, including ones as prominent as the Chicago Tribune, and provides a much more detailed account of the political career. I think this shows that the article definitely should exist in some form as per . (maybe even as a stub or with a maintenance tag such as the ones in Template:BLP sources). Furthermore, I think  has been met as well. However, I just wanted to reiterate that the political career is not the only reason that the article cites her as being notable for, so  doesn’t necessarily apply, even though it has now been met by the substantial (and sourced) expansion of the political career section over the past few days. It also proves  WP:BLP1E doesn't apply here. Thank you
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NPOL||WP:NPOL)

Comment: Fails  for political career, but I also don't see notability for activism career. All but one of the sources for activism are connected to her or another political candidate in some way and aren't RS. The one potential RS (Borderless magazine) I see is quotes her about the census and has only like about her. I also don't see any GNG fulfilling sources, as the user above claims. Side note: there's possibly an offwiki attempt to brigade this, I'm sure any closer will be able to see. Regards
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NPOL)

Comment: per . It's not the best case, but the subject is covered in multiple outlets, at least one of which has an international scope. BLP1E doesn't apply here
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)

Comment: there's still no meeting of NPOL here. Every single reference is about her successful run for an utterly and completely insignificant office. The only sources that aren't local do not come within a driver's shot of meeting our reliable sources policy. And I'm sorry, but it's utterly ridiculous to hinge the achievement of such an insignificant office on the fact that she's the first of a certain nationality. She's an American, and per , facts about her parents are not relative to her notability
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions (WP:INHERIT)