Deletion of List of breakfast drinks (2nd nomination)

Comment: The content of the list meets  as it is about a list topic which has reliable sources as a defined set. Objections noted above use inappropriate guidelines such as  , , and . Simply stating a list is indiscriminate does not in itself make it so, especially when there are reliable sources which deal with the list as a defined set. Breakfast drinks is a more closely defined set list than Drinks. In order to decide if a list meets Wikipedia criteria we look to reliable sources. If there are no sources which discuss the set list, then the list is not notable. If there are sufficient reliable sources, then the list is notable. Problems in the list, such as lack of sources, or poor presentation, etc, ''which can be addressed by editing'', are not grounds for deletion. Here is a random selection of sources found with a simple Google search for "breakfast drinks": https://ifocushealth.com/breakfast-drinks/, https://www.beveragedaily.com/Article/2016/10/03/breakfast-drinks-UK-US-Australia, https://www.foodandwine.com/slideshows/breakfast-drinks, https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/reports/digital-features/breakfast-report-2015/can-breakfast-drinks-really-hit-100m-in-the-next-five-years/523385.article, https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/teach-me/100967983/wholesome-breakfast-drink-latest-creation-from-lewis-road,   http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6951-breakfast-drinks-not-just-for-breakfast-201609050918, https://www.thedailymeal.com/surprising-breakfast-drinks-around-world/5114, http://www.fdbusiness.com/arla-brings-enters-uk-breakfast-drinks-market/, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3066576/What-s-best-brekkie-bottle-ultimate-solution-rush-mornings.html, https://www.eater.com/drinks/2016/2/18/11039756/breakfast-drinks-world. Some books: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DOJMAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA206#v=onepage&q&f=false The Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mtACZqLXPv8C&pg=PT161#v=onepage&q&f=false Completely Breakfast, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=S49z6PmmHqwC&pg=PA79#v=onepage&q&f=false Contemporary Nutrition for Latinos, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Xwe3DQAAQBAJ&pg=PA240#v=onepage&q&f=false Ullmann's Food and Feed, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nBBJAAAAYAAJ&q=breakfast+drinks&dq=breakfast+drinks&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiju8PKoLzcAhVPe8AKHYAUD8E4ChDoAQhEMAQ Fruit Processing, etc. This is just a quick and dirty search to indicate that the list topic of "breakfast drinks" is treated and discussed as a set by reliable sources - more detailed research would be needed to find appropriate sources to use to define and construct the list. But the topic is certainly valid
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN||WP:NOTDIR||WP:OR||WP:INDISCRIMINATE)

Comment: It's only a few days since the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of breakfast drinks|previous AfD was closed as a Keep.  Per , "it can be Wikipedia:Blocking policy|disruptive to repeatedly nominate a page in the hope of getting a different outcome
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Deletion policy (WP:DELAFD)

Comment: Andrew Davidson, please stop attacking the nominator. I received a similar notification, but I am not going to !vote one way or the other because I am neutral on whether this list should be kept/deleted/redirected/merged/moved-and-refocused/whatevered. I don't know if you automatically show up and !vote one way or the other when you receive such notifications, or you expect others to do so when https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron_%E2%80%93_Rescue_list&offset=20180720193425&limit=206&action=history you send them, but it is a violation of  to assume others will when the notifications are sent by people who disagree with you. Your carefully leaving me out of the list of "canvassed" editors makes it clear that you were listing them specifically to give the false impression that editors who were notified were selected specifically based on their prior !voting record in similar AFDs
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Assume good faith (WP:AGF)

Comment: meets , numerous books that list/discuss breakfast drinks, ie. most recipe books nowadays include recipes for breakfast smoothies, bodybuilding books discuss the importance of protein shakes to have during the day, including breakfast
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN)

Comment: It's a hard one. We should not have a list of any old liquid that some source says some people drink at breakfast. That's a  and  problem, as it's indiscriminate and unusefully broad. I am under the impression, however, that there is a retail product category called "breakfast drink" such that it may be possible for an inclusion criteria to be specified. I'm struggling to come up with one, though, as what defines something accordingly is more about its marketing than about any sort of real practice preceding the marketing. Looking at the Amazon section, just for a quick look, I see that all sorts of beverages are included -- practically any beverage in fact. If there were an inclusion criteria, it would need to be based on the phrase "breakfast drink" but I'm not so confident that phrase is used consistently, leading again to an indiscriminate list. &mdash
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT||WP:SAL)

Comment: I see a very strong case of  going on with this article with many users unduly praising
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Ownership of content (WP:OWN)

Comment: because every morning, like so many people, I drink for breakfast one fresh ostrich-egg mixed with elephant milk, and my drink's not mentioned here, so the article can't be right. And if that's not acceptable, I call upon , , and . (burp
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:No original research (WP:OR||WP:NOTESSAY||WP:INDISCRIMINATE)

Comment: Meets . Google Scholar shows https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22breakfast+drinks%22 714 exact-phrase matches for the term "breakfast drinks," and many of the search results are studies that discuss various breakfast drinks as a group or set. Examples
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN)

Comment: This is just an |indiscriminate list with a bunch of arbitrary references stating that they 'might' be consumed for breakfast. Hardly encyclopedic
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:INDISCRIMINATE)

Comment: per #2c. The article was retained after the last AfD discussion that was closed about a week ago. Also, I recommend that delete !voters herein check out the sources in the article verifying that said beverages are typical and common at breakfast, in the event that this has not occurred
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Speedy keep (WP:SK)