Deletion of Plymouth-Canton Marching Band (2nd nomination)

Comment: Way back when, I was in my award-winning high school marching band (which I see is http://patch.com/new-jersey/westwood-hillsdale/westwood-high-school-marching-band-wins-top-scores still winning awards, Go Cardinals!).  But, really, it's a high school band.  I don't see anything in the article that makes me think it's anything more than that.  I agree that  does not apply here
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BAND)

Comment: Looking at  we see that the guideline applies to "orchestras". Ok, this marching band is not an orchestra. But, it is every bit as large. I fail to see how an instrumental group of the same size as a typical orchestra doesn't qualify under  simply because it uses instrumentation that is different than a typical orchestra. Reading , we see it says such ensembles may be notable if the ensemble "has won first, second or third place in a major music competition." The Grand National Championship run by Bands of America is "most prestigious national marching band event available to high school marching bands". I can't see any reason for doubt that this championship would not qualify. The band for discussion here has won this national level competition not once, not twice, but THREE times, Bands_of_America#Championships_By_School.E2.80.A0|tied for second most ever. They've been 2nd twice, and 3rd twice. Any one of these 7 national level placings would have them qualify under . Yet, they've done it _7_ times. How many times does a band have to do this before they are notable? I was concerned about , but note coverage outside of their region with http://www.indystar.com/story/life/community/observer/2015/07/23/go-blue-cep-band-kellogg-park-plymouth/30579317/ this, and others. I also note that finding a massive number of results is likely complicated by the band's last top three placing being in 2001...a decade and a half ago. I believe with the sources provided and available that  is readily met (and yes,  applies), as well as  and . This article is badly, badly in need of a rewrite. There's a serious amount of puffery and fluff here. I mean seriously, discussing a third pocket being removed from the uniform and noting very little media attention over the event? Really? Regardless, the sad state of an article is NOT a reason to delete
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BAND||WP:BAND||WP:BAND||WP:BAND||WP:AUD||WP:GNG||WP:GNG||WP:BAND||WP:AUD)

Comment: Satisfies  with significant coverage in numerous RSes, has won or placed 2nd or 3d in numerous competitions. This was kept in the previous AfD and it appears there is nothing new to suggest a different outcome
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BAND)

Comment: WP:BAND is not the applicable guideline here. As a high school music group, the primary goal is education, not performing.  is clearly the applicable guideline, and there is no indication this group has been recognized outside Metro Detroit. And yes there has been significant change in the community's view on notability since 2007. ORG didn't even exist in 2007. This is a bloated article, filled with intricate detail most likely of little interest outside of people already connected with the subject, and largely meaningless outside the US
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:ORG)

Comment: The existence of coverage in reliable sources is enough to satisfy . At that point, whether it passes  is irrelevant
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:BAND)