Deletion of History of video game consoles (eighth generation) (6th nomination)

Comment: since my view is known).  The problem that we have with video game generations is that they are defined in general well after the generation has actually started or even after the generation has passed, and not on the bleeding edge of that generation.  Its same with any gross qualification of a period of time relative to a topic - the ages of mankind, the periods of painting, even considering significant recessions and inflationary periods despite the evidence of changes at the onset.  I don't question that we will have an 8th generation of consoles. I do not deny that the Wii U may end up being in that 8th generation, but as there is no defined "shape" to this generation as we can make with 1st-7th generations, no one - at least, as a Wikipedia editor - can make that assessment.  We need the industry to say "Ok, now we know we're in the 8th generation", and from past history this likely won't happen until there's more physical evidence of the next MS and Sony console units. Now as to this AFD, a lot of these issues go away if there was a rename to this article. If we called it "History of video game consoles (2010-present)", keeping all the same information but removing the speculative 8th generation stuff (or at least qualifying it as a tentative 8th gen), leaving it as "the industry has yet to classify the Wii U" ''and'' keeping all the other previous history articles at their 1-7th generations, I could see that happening. It would properly reflect that the 3DS, Vita, and Wii U are nebulous in relationship to how they should be classified but removes none of the information about it.  As soon as it is clear where the industry drops the Wii U in regards to generations, we can either rename the article or move the information appropriately.  (I ''am'' against deleting the information, but presently most of this is duplicate from specific hardware pages).  But basically at the end of the day, the term "8th generation" is a |neologism and until it is readily accept as to its definition, we should be avoiding it
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary (WP:NEO)

Comment: I really don't see the point of deleting or user-ifying this and then re-creating it 3-6 months from now when more sources appear.  is for articles where there's uncertainty about the subject matter. I don't think anyone realistically doubts that a) additional references discussing Nintendo's console will appear, b) that these consoles will be referred to as "8th generation" very shortly, c) that Sony and Microsoft will very shortly start making noise about their own next-generation consoles now that Nintendo has given a public hardware demo, or d) that an article created 6 months from now would look almost exactly like the present one. We've seen working hardware, we have release dates; the article's subject verifiably exists. So, by all means stick a "needs more sources" or "event in progress" template on the article, but enough with the delete/recreate revolving door
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:CRYSTAL)

Comment: Serge and Masem have essentially voiced my thoughts. I mean, some of the Keep rationales involve deductive reasoning, as in: Wii U is "next-gen", 8 is the next number after 7, so the Wii U is an 8th-gen system. I see someone who cited  in defense, I stand by Masem's response to that. Others are essentially, "We should keep since it's going to happen anyway". , anyone? Confidence that something is going to happen is one thing, but there's no reason for anyone to be 100% sure about this
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:No original research (WP:CALC||WP:CRYSTAL)

Comment: Considering that we have History of video game consoles (first generation) through History of video game consoles (seventh generation), it seems a bit silly to be deleting this article.  Regardless of its past/current merits, we know that eventually this article will be created.  What's the point in going through all the Wikipedia:Drama|WikiDrama of nominating an article for deletion knowing full well that it will eventually be created?  This is a waste of the community's time.  I wish editors would spend their time and energy on things that are actually important or make a difference.  (BTW, I'm not sure if  applies since  allows for simple math: 7 + 1 = 8
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:No original research (WP:SYN||WP:OR)

Comment: the term "next generation" is a  term used for PR purposes. Furthermore, the 3DS is not a console system; it is a handheld. In essence this article is full and has been of original research and speculation
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (WP:PEACOCK)