Deletion of List of aircraft accidents and incidents resulting in at least 50 fatalities

Comment: First off, Nergaal, I don't think this article was nominated in bad faith. But more importantly, although I would hate to see so many users' |hard work go to waste, it seems like the number 50 in this case was chosen arbitrarily. Yes, there are other list-based articles on here, but take a look at :Category:Death-related lists; do you see any other quantitative article titles? I don't. There aren't even any such titles in :Category:Lists by death toll. Another issue is the '''inclusion criteria''' section; who even determines that? And anyway, that kind of section is usually found within notability guideline pages, not on actual article pages. '''Erpert
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions (WP:HARDWORK)

Comment: we have a number of lists with cut-off points, it helps manageability of the length of lists.  The title of the list explains exactly what the list comprises.  I've seen that MilbourneOne has a list of personal issues about this, to which I've responded http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_aircraft_accidents_and_incidents_resulting_in_at_least_50_fatalities&diff=prev&oldid=563015130 here.  Quite why the aviation project is set on "delete as default" I have no idea.  We don't use categories for a coherent list of disasters.  We stopped using "... by location" or whatever several years ago.  In fact, defending a "... by location" list and then criticising a "... at least 50 fatalities" list is crazy.  Each define the content, and the presentation.  This list is intended to be useful to our readers, not the |owners of the Aviation project.   I have raised concerns with Godot13 that there are some elements that could be removed (as they seem unnecessarily |synthetic) so I'm not just waving a banner for this list.  But it shouldn't be deleted.  Finally, per
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Ownership of content (WP:OWN||WP:SYNTH)

Comment: per TRM, Nergaal, and . Lists by location are outdated and should be merged into lists like this (we can easily make tables sortable now), except where they are divided into national categories to avoid getting the lists too long. :Category:Lists of aviation accidents and incidents is not quite a duplicate, as it is a ''category'' and only includes those events with an article (the scope of this list would not prevent it from including incidents without articles). List of accidents and incidents involving commercial aircraft does not overlap as this list's scope allows it to include military aircraft, whereas the other is limited to commercial aircraft; also, the other article does not necessarily have a clear scope: what determines notability in such a list?&nbsp;—&nbsp
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NLIST)

Comment: Our nominator asserts a ''section'' of the article lapses from .  Our deletion policies explain that articles should not be nominated for deletion when someone has a concern over a ''section'' of that article.  Rather, this concern should be raised on the article's talk page, and ''if others agree'', that section should be fixed, or possibly excised.  Our nominator has doubts about why some information is included?  Again, this is a question for the talk page, it not grounds for deletion
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:No original research (WP:OR)

Comment: nbsp;  in WP:N states, "Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists."&nbsp; But as other parts of  say, notability is not clearly defined for these lists.&nbsp; In this case, I think the problem is that the arbitrary cutoff of 50 doesn't create an independently interesting list, and has in turn led to an unmanageable file.&nbsp; I suggest that the answer is that this should be a top 100 list.&nbsp; I'm not opposed to a longer list possibly using multiple pages...this is a matter for the editors doing the work to decide.&nbsp
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN)