Deletion of Roach (rapper)

Comment: Meets  and  through independent coverage in reliable sources
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NMUSIC)

Comment: On further thought, I think a problem with the "keep" argument that Michig is making is this: these lesser-known, independent-label musicians are effectively analogous to minor league athletes, who actually likely have hundreds more mainstream references in newspapers, TV, radio, &c. references, not only locally, but in national sources.  Yet, a consensus judgment call has been made that not only are they not notable just based on those references, but they are presumptively not notable unless they make it to the majors, except in the cases of major coverage despite the not making it to the majors.  's "per se notable" criteria effectively serves as a "make it to the majors" analog, and while I consider them somewhat over inclusive, I'm not going to quibble with the consensus there.  Yet when someone/some group doesn't make it on those criteria, I question how, in particular when the person/group does not draw coverage outside music publications, whether  can be at all invoked.  I'd consider them presumptively non-notable unless they make it to one of the  criteria
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NMUSIC||WP:GNG||WP:NMUSIC)

Comment: One of the most widely accepted methods of demonstrating notability is via significant coverage in reliable sources, and it would really help to search for such coverage before bringing articles to AfD. The subject here has received coverage from http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14419-roachy-balboa/ Pitchfork Media (3 album reviews), http://www.mtvhive.com/2012/09/11/roach-gigz-bugged-out-interview/ MTV (multiple articles), http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/roach-gigz-told-us-how-to-become-puy-magnets VICE, ''XXL'', http://www.spin.com/articles/roach-gigz-iamsu-its-lit-stream/ ''SPIN'', Prefix, HipHopDX, ''FACT'' magazine, and others. Easily passess  and 
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NMUSIC)

Comment: We don't (and shouldn't) dismiss sports-centric sources such as ESPN and ''Sports Illustrated'' when establishing the notability of athletes. Similarly, it's perfectly reasonable for the notability of musicians to be established from coverage in music sources, so long as the sources in question are considered reliable and independent of the subject. In this case, Pitchfork (x3) and MTV (x2) (along with the other sources above) clearly meet the /#1 standard
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:MUSICBIO)