Deletion of Jordan Older (2nd nomination)

Comment: due to the absence of third party, reliable sources. It definitely fails  in my opinion
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)

Comment: I do not see that anything has changed since the original AfD. |RS do not appear to satisfy , and the subject definitely fails . Sources generally are either self-promotional, are not about the subject, or only mention the subject in passing
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Reliable sources (WP:RS||WP:NFOOTBALL||WP:GNG)

Comment: and ''''''. Enough of these shenanigans; are you getting paid by the word, or for the result
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Protection policy (WP:SALT)

Comment: There is an absence of third party, reliable sources. The |General notability guideline is not satisfied
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)

Comment: On several points.  First, the sources in the article are deeply flawed, per the nominator and others.  Second, the statement at  says anyone who appeared in a fully professional league is '''''generally''''' considered notable.  In short, it's not guaranteed.  And given how big soccer is in Brazil and South America, if this person really did play in Brazil's top division, finding sources shouldn't be this tough. Bluntly, this person fails , and that for me puts him on the wrong side of "generally".  Third, someone noted above that this player does not appear on any transfer list. Almost immediately, a new user comes up with a site that is ''user generated'' that shows one transfer - between small time local teams in San Diego, but nothing that indicates the article subject played any of the top teams claimed.  Seriously, the article claims this guy played in some pretty big leagues, but SPAs in this AFD are trying to pin notability on low-level PDL appearances?  Obvious red flag card. Fourth, it is claimed this person took part in training camp for the American World Cup team in 1994.  Again, if true, reliable sources should have been easily obtained. Fifth, it is fishy that stories that do mention Older tend to be user-submitted. Example: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/feb/06/jordan-older-helps-local-soccer-player-sign-europe/. Sixth, we have a professional soccer player who is also a physician who also runs a Film Festival of indeterminate importance who is also an actor (who was "featured" in some pretty big movies, yet has no IMDB profile yet). I'm left wondering if we will see stories tomorrow about how he is also a former astronaut who became a member of Seal Team Six.  All in all, this just looks to me like a whole lot of fiction and puffery.  And based on the first reply on http://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/did-jordan-older-ever-play-for-the-usa.484276/ this thread, may have been ongoing for some time
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NFOOTBALL||WP:GNG)

Comment: The subject appears to pass  by having played a few minutes in USL2, which is listed at . That is a '''presumption''' of notability. However, that does not mean he is '''guaranteed''' an article. I haven't yet seen evidence of enough reliable non-trivial independent coverage to pass the general notability guideline. cheers
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NFOOTBALL||WP:FPL)

Comment: I am the administrator who declined the request to speedy delete the article as a hoax. Because some sources validated claims in the article, it did not appear to be a ''blatant'' hoax, so CSD G3 did not apply. I had reservations about whether there were enough sources above the local level to meet  and indicated that the article might wind up here. I also posted a message at WikiProject Football to bring in subject matter experts. I have not, and do not at this time, express an opinion on whether the article should be kept or deleted in this AfD proceeding; my actions only related to speedy deletion criteria G3 and A7
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)

Comment: has not received significant coverage in third-party, reliable sources so fails , which outweighs the ''possibility'' of him ''barely'' passing . The US lower leagues are only barely fully-pro now, I very much doubt they were 15-20 years ago when this guy was playing. Note to those !voting keep - to pass  you have to actually ''play'' (not just be signed to a roster), and you have to play in a |fully-professional league, not just for a professional team
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NFOOTBALL||WP:NFOOTBALL||WP:FPL)