Deletion of Pantacles of Athens

Comment: Does anyone have any specific objections to the three exceptions to the general merge I proposed? These three had more coverage from sources and a demonstrated impact, especially for Phrynon, and I don't think they should be merged/ redirected simply because they were nominated alongside numerous articles where this would be an appropriate outcome. Legitimate encyclopedic content would be lost, and per , we should be keeping, not eliminating, encyclopedic content
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Editing policy (WP:PRESERVE)

Comment: Clearly,  was never intended to apply to ancient Olympic Games athletes.  It is impossible for the overwhelming majority of ancient Olympic athletes to satisfy the general notability guidelines per , because there is not now, and never will be, ''significant'' coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources.  In fact, we don't even know the names of most of the ancient Olympic athletes, and for those whose names do know, that's all we know.  No basic biographical data -- no birth date, no birth place, no parents, no non-sports career, no date of death.  All notability guidelines, including specific notability guidelines like NSPORTS and NOLYMPICS only impart a ''presumption'' of notability, not a guarantee of inclusion as a stand-alone Wikipedia article.  As GNG specifically states
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NOLYMPICS||WP:GNG)

Comment: into one list.  In any cases where there is anything else known apart from theri victory in a race, a substantive article should be retained, but with these exceptions, we know nothing of them except that they won one race.  '''ZERO''' other biography and '''ZERO''' sources for furthter research, because there are no other  on their lives.  Comparison with modern sports is a false comparison, but we generally have other sources on their biography.  My argument is not that their achievement was NN, but that a stand-alon article ought normally to have one than a single statement (and its background
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Reliable sources (WP:RS)

Comment: I think these are clearly notable people, and thus should either be kept (in cases where sufficient information can be written for a stand-alone article) or should be merged (when there is not sufficient information for a stand-alone article).   says to use coverage in reliable sources to assess notability because that is a straightforward way to tell if something is likely notable.  However, it is not the coverage in sources that ''makes'' the subject notable, but rather the interest from the world at large.   also says to use common sense, making it clear that coverage isn't necessary to assess notability when it would be blatantly obvious that the subject is notable.  I think it is blatantly obvious that the champions of what were the greatest athletic events of their time would be notable people, and thus in depth coverage of these people is thus not necessary to assess their notability.  Because these are notable people, there articles certainly shouldn't be deleted outright.  However, the  section of  also makes it clear that significant coverage is required so that we have enough information to write stand-alone articles on notable subjects, and that notable subjects without significant coverage should instead be covered in a larger article or list.  Thus any of these people without significant coverage should be merged, and any with significant coverage should be kept, but none of them should be deleted
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N||WP:N||WP:WHYN||WP:N)

Comment: apart from Phrynon of Athens, as it seems that he is the same person as Phrynon, who we have a little more information about. (I'm taking it on trust that he is the same person.) For the rest of them, a list article is probably going to be more helpful than a one-line stub, and we can always expand the redirects into full articles if we find enough information about any of them that they pass 
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)