Deletion of Nexus War

Comment: If this can be verified, wouldn't this tend to make the article notable?  I don't know what a large player base for a beta is, but this sounds like a significant number.  If so, certainly criteria according to  will follow; should we delete the article until then, or try to stay ahead of the curve and keep developing the article, since it's already been started
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:WEB)

Comment: Having read many "keep" requests across this page, this is more of a comment to all of you. The issue here is not if the page can be proven worthy of deletion, but if it can be proven worthy of keeping. Despite what many of you seem to think,  is, in fact, a criteria and NOT a guideline. As, quite truthfully, Nexus War is not the subject of any reliable publications. Also, from : "Internet guides - Wikipedia articles should not exist only to describe the nature, appearance or services a website offers, but should describe the site in an encyclopedic manner, offering detail on a website's achievements, impact or historical significance, which can be significantly more up-to-date than most reference sources since we can incorporate new developments and facts as they are made known." This is more an introduction to the game than anything else, and has nothing like dates of the beginning/end of alpha, or beginning of Beta that an encyclopedia entry would have. The only information is a summary of the game and Jorm's name. However much I enjoy this game, I also recognize that this entry is not encyclopedic, has no statistical information, and, therefore, does not belong on Wikipedia. 19:59, 29 July, 2006
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:WEB||WP:NOT)

Comment: As I mention elsewhere below,  states: ''"Alexa rankings are not a part of the notability guidelines for web sites
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Search engine test (WP:SET)

Comment:  is not wiki policy or even a guideline, its just an essay, read the top of the  page
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NN)

Comment: I again direct you to |use common sense rather than use the "it's not important to me, therefore it's not important" guideline.  I note from your recent edits that you seem to have a bit of a vendetta against browser-based games, even going so far as to contest the notability of Urban Dead which by any measure of common sense is quite notable.  Or perhaps you'd care to point me to another browser-based game that has had http://urbandead.com/stats.html thousands of active players ''in the last hour alone
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What "Ignore all rules" means (WP:UCS)

Comment: This may be a "weak" keep, but it's one of the strongest arguments I know of for keeping this article.  Bear in mind that #Wikipedia_is_not_a_paper_encyclopedia|Wikipedia_is_not_a_paper_encyclopedia and there's no real reason to delete an article that obviously has some genuine interest.  Again, the common theme from many of those proposing deletion seems to stem from the fact that this is a game that they've never heard of.  I'd argue that this is actually a great reason to ''keep'' the article -- I find myself using Wikipedia to look up items about which I know little or nothing far more often than subjects about which I'm well-versed
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT)

Comment: A blog and a user submitted news article to a questionable site still isn't much more than scraps. See  for more on reliable sources
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Reliable sources (WP:RS)

Comment: it doesn't meet  or  and it just came out in May so it doesn't really pass  either
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:WEB||WP:SOFTWARE||WP:NN)

Comment: If anything, this article is a candidate to be added to Wikipedia:Pages needing attention|Pages needing attention, not for outright deletion.  To those voting "delete", I'd encourage you to read the actual Wikipedia:Deletion_policy|Deletion_policy linked in the template at the top of the page.  Note that although items such as , , and  are addressed, notability is not.  Wikipedia:Notability|Notability is not a universally accepted criteria on Wikipedia and does not appear anywhere in the official deletion policy
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view (WP:NPOV||WP:NOR||WP:V)

Comment: As a http://wiki.nexuswar.com/index.php/User:Wyn moderator for NexusWar and a http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Wyndallin player of UrbanDead, I find the claims of sockpuppetry offensive. Keolah is a distinct individual, and also a moderator, as is Meirleach. The current amount of players totals approximately 7500, rather than the 15000 stated by Mobius Soul, but nevertheless, it is still not an insignificant number. Technically, it doesn't meet the  requirements. I will freely admit that. Fortunately for Nexus War,  is a page that gives ''some rough guidelines
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:WEB||WP:WEB)

Comment: And that's also why we have guidelines like .  Using a little common sense should make it abundantly clear that Nexus War can't really be shoe-horned into  or .  From a notability aspect, common sense would dictate that a browser-based game capable of attracting thousands of ''very'' active users in a reasonably short time and which has hundreds of users online playing at any hour of the day or night is indeed ''quite'' notable.  Remember that the "thousands of users" I refer to isn't the same as a website which receives thousands of visits a day -- these are actual users who come back to the game multiple times per day as opposed to casual viewers who may just glance at a web page before moving along
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What "Ignore all rules" means (WP:UCS||WP:WEB||WP:SOFTWARE)

Comment: Nobody said anything of those other browser games deserving an article. If you think they do not deserve an article, feel free to put them up for deletion as well. But this discussion should be on this articles merits, not those others. Oh and the problem isn't that this wikipedia article isn't notable but the subject (the game) has no notability and thus doesn't adhere to  or 
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:WEB||WP:SOFTWARE)