Deletion of Angela Gronenborn

Comment: at subject's request. Although she passes rof, the wish of a non-public figure for privacy should be respected. At this moment in history we are seeing the tremendous harm that can be done by social media, and people who wish to avoid social media should be encouraged to
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Portal (WP:P)

Comment: per  and as per the reasoning of multiple editors above. As a professor myself, I feel  is relatively easy to pass.  refers to "relatively unknown, non-public figures", so what counts as "relatively unknown, non-public"? I'd say someone who fails  and this person appears to fail . Ergo,  applies, ergo we respect the request
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE||WP:NPROF||WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE||WP:GNG||WP:GNG||WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: As a named professor, member of multiple academic societies, president of a major academic society, etc., the subject does not in any sense have a low profile as an academic. This is not the kind of borderline case that  can apply to. We should have articles on all academics at this level, regardless of their preferences. And the arguments above that "WP:PROF is special and therefore we should ignore it when we want to" make no sense and are not grounded in policy or guidelines
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: Unambiguous pass of  C3 and C5, and I think it's also pretty strong for C1.  I take  as intended for somewhat marginal cases, and I don't see anything marginal here at all.  I disagree that university professors are not public figures -- part of the job is to be famous in a low-key and localized manner
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NPROF||WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: Per .  In general I would oppose this request but the reasons laid out have convinced me that we should honor it in this case and remove the article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: obviously. Being an elected member of the National Academy of Sciences as well as of several other academies already denotes a major scientific figure and in fact a public figure too because of the unique status of the National Academy of Sciences in the American public life. We should never delete articles about subjects with that level of notability. The subject has in fact received a substantial amount of publicity as is easily demonstated by the independent coverage related to her numerous significant awards and honors. Here are a few sample references, just off the top of the basic google search https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/people/040119/gronenborn-wins-asbmb-mildred-cohn-awardhttps://chemistry.illinois.edu/kenneth-l-rinehart-lecturer-2009-10-angela-m-gronenbornhttps://www.ucl.ac.uk/biosciences/events/2016/dec/professor-angela-gronenborn-deliver-division-biosciences-patricia-clarke-lecture-december-9th-2016https://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i9/Angela-Gronenborn-Awarded-Hammes-Lectureship.html.  does not apply to famous scientists like this one
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: per . I am aware that the subject passes . However, given that she is relatively unknown outside of her field, the request should be honored
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE||WP:NPROF)

Comment: this seems to me to be what  is for. Public figures don't really get a say in whether they have an article.  I think non-public figures should.  Both as a point of BLP policy, and as common courtesy.  has been around for quite a while, and there has been no stampede of such requests.  I'm reasonably confident that the
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE||WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: It seems contradictory to argue both that the article gives the subject unwanted publicity and that it is low-traffic. Maybe I'm missing something important (it's been a long day), but if I were trying to publicize myself and my Wikipedia article had a page-view count in the tens per month, I'd fire my agent. On a more general note, does anyone else have the feeling that we've been seeing more s of scientist biographies lately
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: per  and the many other rationales already listed above. As Blablubbs stated earlier, it's important to consider that there absolutely is an impact on the people whom we write about
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE)

Comment: per . This isn't someone who is a widely known figure, so whether or not they pass  we should honour the subject's request
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE||WP:NPROF)

Comment: Yes,  is met, but that's not what  asks. It asks whether the person is a {{tq|"relatively unknown, non-public figure"}}. In clicking around to figure out exactly what that meant, I wound up at  and the section on Eminence caught my attention. I'm no expert on the world of academia, but from what I understand it's ''expected'' that a person who's been around this long has racked up triple-digit publications and a strong handful of chairs and other titles. The subject here may be an expert in her field, but how well-known is she outside of her field? From what I can tell she's gone out of the way to be as private a person as she can ''given the field she's chosen to work in'', and my reading of the OTRS ticket does nothing to dissuade me from that. This isn't a situation where notability needs to overcome the deletion policy. The deletion policy has simply thrown the tiebreaker in the article subject's favor, where "no consensus" here means "delete", rather than "status quo", and the community can make its decision, as it always has. &#8209;&#8209
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NPROF||WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE||WP:LPI)