Deletion of Order of the Phoenix (organisation)

Comment: WP:FICT states an article on a fictional topic must "contain substantial real-world content from reliable primary and secondary sources." - the topic of this article has no real world notability. Since this fictional organisation plays a large role in the clearly |notable book Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix any information on it should be included in that article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NN)

Comment: So we now have a new piece of essay that binds us to essays and guidelines without good reason to do otherwise, with 'good reason' left up to individual discretion, meaning it's what that individual considers to be convincing... Please excuse me I exceed my ambient background level of cynicism about this matter. It's argued above that we shouldn't keep from following  to the letter - apply that bit of common sense that guidelines definitionally encourage - for "no reason." I argue that being a central concept in the biggest book series in all of time is very much a reason. (This particular revision of FICT is also contentious and sparked a revision effort. Its author intended it to be a tool for retaining information but found it used too easily for deleting it.)Another reason to retain the article is that it leaves the decision up to the experts. The Harry Potter Wikiproject has an ongoing project to determine the breadth and form of its coverage - and (alas) not even close to a kneejerk "keep everything" decision. It's the most suited party to evaluate the main issue of what, how and where should be said about this subject
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:FICT)

Comment:  says to use deletion only as a last resort. Although the it-has-no-notability-in-the-real-world arguments are very convincing, I'd still say |Ignore all rules for this article which happens to be the book title of one of the most selling books of all time and in-universe-notably spans several books. This article would be a perfect candidate for the planned {{tl|In-universe rationale}} template that's currently planned on . &ndash
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Ignore all rules (WP:IAR||WP:FICT)

Comment: Firstly, it satisfies  by the obvious fact that it's crucial to the notable Harry Potter world (so much so, in fact, that it's even in the ''title'' of the latest book). This conferred notability is why Mos Eisley, SPECTRE, Hanso Foundation, Purity Control, Springfield Nuclear Power Plant, Starfleet, H.I.V.E., Syndicate (The X-Files) and the Stanfield Organization all have articles. Secondly, it gets http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Order+of+the+Phoenix%22&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn 925 Google News hits at this moment
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:FICT)