Deletion of Arthur S. Herman

Comment: or '''Merge to Franklin & Marshall College''' The subject fails  by lacking significant coverage in secondary sources.  Significant "means that sources address the subject directly in detail", not that there are a large number of trivial sources. The two ''New York Times'' references and the ''Reading Eagle'' references are  game coverage that listed Herman in the starting lineup or mentions that he scored in a single sentence as part of routine game coverage. This does not establish notability. The following sentences serve to establish his school's notability, but not Herman's: {{quotation|In 1914, the Franklin & Marshall football team, with Herman playing halfback, compiled a 6–2 record and defeated Penn, at the time considered one of the "Big Four" of college football,n 1 by a score of 10–0.67 In 1915, the team again compiled a 6–2 record and outscored opponents by cumulative score of 188 to 43.8 With Herman playing fullback, Franklin & Marshall lost to Penn by a score of 10–6 in 1915, but the Boston Globe praised the effort of the Franklin & Marshall squad: "The University of Pennsylvania football team in its third game of the season beat Franklin and Marshall today, 10 to 6, in one of the best battles seen here in years. Much praise is due the visitors from Lancaster, for during the entire game they fought with a snap and vim that at times had the Red and Blue eleven bewildered."9
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:ROUTINE)

Comment: per the general notability guideline.  Having met , not meeting  is not an issue.  For one thing,  itself repeats the general notability guidelines: "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published1 non-trivial2 secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent,3 and independent of the subject.4
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NSPORTS||WP:NSPORTS)

Comment: Discussing raw numbers of sources found or actually used is detracting from the more important point of "What do the articles say about the subject?". Consensus will need to decide if a college player and college coach who also played minor league baseball but never competed at the highest level was interesting enough based on non- sources to not be un-of-the-mill and established notability that was 
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:No original research (WP:PRIMARY||WP:R||WP:NOTINHERITED)

Comment: There is nothing in the  criteria that covers coaches in American football and playing for the Blue Ridge League is not inherently notable per /N, so that argument is straight out the door.  As for the , there is routine, local coverage of his firing, game stats in the Boston Globe and NY Times.  There are (supposedly, as the archives are not online) two references to Herman being drafted for WWI service, but for the time period should be pretty run-of-the-mill too. Every local athlete in their mid-20's probably got a "our boy's been called up" blurb  in the local papers
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NSPORTS||WP:MLB||WP:GNG)

Comment: plenty of coverage, meets  and Cbl62 has clearly articulated why this person was notable, so we can defer the argument about  and college coaches
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG||WP:NSPORTS)

Comment: head college football coaches are almost always considered notable, and it seems that every time one is deleted in AFD, later it is "resurrected" when additional online and/or offline sources are found.  This particular article is less than a few hours old.  Further,  is inclusionary and not exclusionary.  A better guideline would be  which many would argue the article has already met through verification of two separate reliable sources
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NSPORTS||WP:GNG)