Deletion of Antoni Dunin (2nd nomination)

Comment: per PMAnderson and others; I see multiple reliable sources, especially since the expansion. A merge might be more approriate; I think merges should be used more often in non-fiction topics, because they strengthen ideas into an greater whole that has a better chance of showing solid notability. In addition: lots of people have worked hard on it,  is a guideline (not policy), it is useful/interesting, other similar articles exist, notability is inherited, it does not do any harm, Wikipedia should be about everything, fame, the google test, repeated nominations, etc. &mdash
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N)

Comment: Subject passes  as a recipient of the highest military decoration for valor, in this case Virtuti Militari
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)

Comment: as article creator) I will respect the community consensus on this, but I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions.  I did not create this article because the individual is my grandfather, I created the article because I felt that he met Wikipedia's notability standards. I also created other articles about other family members, who I similarly felt were sufficiently notable.  I had reviewed discussions such as at Wikipedia:Centralized discussions where the consensus on Nobility was that those of noble genealogy were inherently notable. I had seen AfDs such as this one that showed consensus for this as well.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Giuseppe_Said  I also saw that those who were recipients of a country's highest medal were considered notable.  I was able to locate a third-party list confirming the award of the Virtuti Militari medal.http://feefhs.org/PL/vm/vm-d.html And I had plenty of primary sources which confirmed the information, and were summarized in my family tree. Granted, there's not much more than a stub article here, but I felt that there was enough for a "real" stub. I also added some other minor biographical information, which is sourced to my own family tree.  As it turned out, the quantity of biographical information exceeded the amount of third-party sourced information.  I apologize if it looks like I was trying to create a "fluff" piece about one of my relatives, as that was not my intention at the time.  I felt then (and still do), that I was helping to "fill in a gap".  There are plenty of places where Wikipedia someday will have articles, that it currently doesn't.  The Mayors of Warsaw, the Finance Ministers of Pre-War Poland, etc.  I couldn't add comprehensive lists, but I could |be bold and add the bits and pieces of sources that I had access to at the time. Since I created the article, other sources have become available too, though they haven't been added to the article yet (and some are in Polish). Confirmation of his family home.http://dworki.3k.pl/album.php?dworek=55 A document about his cavalry unit.http://www.adiutor-mars.com.pl/mars/mars_19/mars_19_studia_tym.pdf The ''New York Times'' obituary of Antoni's father-in-law, Edward Werner, confirms that Antoni was a Count (by listing the death of his wife).http://www.elonka.com/mirrors/nytimes/nytimes19451117p17.pdf Confirmation that he's considered one of the notable members of his coat of arms.http://www.family-crests.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=210  The ''Polish Biographical Dictionary'' confirms the title of Antoni's father, Rodryg Dunin.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rodryg_Dunin#Translation_needed   And I have a 1947 letter from Senator Homer Ferguson to Secretary of State George Marshall, which mentions Anton Dunin by name, along with his children and some other relatives, as Ferguson worked with Congressional candidate Alfred Niezychowski (another of my relatives named in the letter) to get Antoni's orphaned children into the United States.  It is also my understanding that Ferguson actually added a rider to a Congressional bill, to specifically name the children and help them get into the country (though I have not been able to locate the exact bill, so of course it cannot yet be used as a source).  Whether or not anyone chooses to believe me, I can't control.  But I am speaking sincerely here:  It is my belief that Antoni Dunin passes .  If you delete this stub article today, my guess is that sometime in the future, it will just be re-created.  I think that deleting it would be a waste, and that ultimately, it would leave Wikipedia ''weaker'' than if the stub article were kept for later expansion.  If others feel that the article is somehow detrimental to Wikipedia though, and that Wikipedia would be better off without it, well, that's your decision to make
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Be bold (WP:BOLD||WP:BIO)

Comment: Thatcher131 hits it on the head, here; there are virtually no independent sources made available regarding this person, and it would seem to be based mostly on original research. Thus, it seems he would fail 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)

Comment: I do not agree that being of noble class makes him notable, however, the Virtuti Militari decoration does seem to help meet the  suggested requirements.  I am a bit confused about the ranking of the Virtuti Militari, because in the VM article it indicates the Order of the White Eagle is the highest award.  I suspect it is the inclusion of civilians that separate the two distinctions and perhaps a clarification should be added to the two articles.  My understanding is that the class of the VM is dependent upon rank, so the class he was awarded should not influence the decision of voters.  Apparently the VM has been awarded a great number of times, over 8,400 from 1920-1939 alone (and over 1,600 previously from 1806-1815).  This totals over 10,000 VM since its creation.  This is compared to 3,444 MoH awards since creation in 1862 and 1,356 Victoria Cross awards since creation in 1856.  It is true that there is a striking disproportion between the number of times that each respective government has awarded their "highest military award", but I think a historical prospective should also be taken into account.  Poland was facing extinction (and temporarily was extinct) at the hands of an overwhelming force.  To this end my condition would be to include in the article a RSed account of the reason for which Dunin was awarded the Virtuti Militari.  My concern is that without knowing the full details, Dunin may have been awarded the VM out of a show of respect for sacrifice and not because he went above and beyond.  Looking at the sheer number of VM awards during this period actually seems to decrease the notability of the award itself.  However, it still remains the highest military award one can receive in Poland, so that distinction should be respected as well.  Intuitively one would think that anyone who received the highest military award would have done something notable in order to receive it.  While sacrificing his life for defense of his country is unquestionably an honorable act, there were in fact thousands more who sacrificed their lives as well and were not awarded the VM.  So to that end, what did he do to receive the distinction?  The article stands incomplete until this additional information is supplied with RS.  If this information is unavailable (destroyed, etc.) I would regrettably feel the article should be removed until the information can be supplied.  We should remember that it is not the AWARD which makes a person notable, but it is the DEED for which they were awarded that truly makes them notable.  An awarded decoration is just a symbol, a shiny little badge, and many awardees often remark how little it means to them.  It is the deed that makes them notable, not the button on their jacket
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)

Comment: Notability isn't subjective.  If this person has won the highest military award, then they are notable, per . "A person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards:... The person has received significant recognized awards or honors." If the tone of the article is incorrect, anyone can fix it. We don't delete articles because of tone
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)

Comment: Created by a relative" and "COI" are not reasons to delete. However, the article does lack evidence of non-trivial coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources, so I would favor deletion per 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)

Comment: before casting my vote can someone clarify to me if Nobility immediately signifies notability according to WP guidelines, as alluded to by user Elonka?  Honestly, I'm not sure.  There are literally thousands and thousands of titled people throughout history, many, many (if not most) of which I would argue fail .  If Nobility does not = Notability, and with the apparent lack of RS, then this article seems to fail. If Nobility = Notability then its a pass on that merit alone, provided of course that his entitlement can be established through RS, which shouldn't be too difficult I would think
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)