Deletion of List of Brazilian racing drivers

Comment: This list clearly passes : it's easy to find discussion of Brazilian race drivers, as a group, in reliable sources. However, the list is so woefully incomplete as to be misleading and of no use to navigation. Some of the most successful drivers of all time, such as Nelson Piquet, Ayrton Senna, :pt:Manuel de Teffé, and Rubens Barrichello, are missing. I'm beginning to question our list inclusion criteria, and wonder if lists like this one are actually improving the encyclopedia, especially when there's no corresponding prose article (e.g. Motorsport in Brazil) to provide context. (And yes, I've argued to keep similar pages in the past
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN)

Comment: Should be categorised into :Category:Brazilian racing drivers and :Category:German racing drivers respectively. Pass , and AFD is 
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN||WP:NOTCLEANUP)

Comment: There is not a policy or guideline based rationale for deletion advanced in the nomination, so this could be .  is a relevant guideline: if the list was notable when created and it does not lose it's notability because it was neglected. Anyone including the nominator can update the list. According to our policies,  -  is a valid policy reason to keep. And my opinion is that  is the relevant notability guideline which tells us to keep this list
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Speedy keep (WP:SKCRIT||WP:NTEMP||WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP||WP:LISTN)

Comment: to the several editors saying these lists ''clearly'' satisfy : then why is there not a single reference or link on either article or in either AFD discussion which gives any example of a reliable source ''discussing'' (not just listing, as is required by LISTN) drivers from Brazil (or Germany) as a group (and not specifically F1 drivers for example)? I couldn't find any such source online, and I don't know of any books which include such discussion
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:LISTN)

Comment: Fail . Clearly indiscriminate lists. Not convinced that it satisfies  either. Those who raised this as an argument to keep it have not substantiated their claim. They merely state as fact in their own voice. In reality, I have not seen the subject of all racing drivers being discussed in meaningful reliable sources. Sometimes you see them discussing racing drivers from said countries in a particular very important racing classes, but not all drivers in all categories. Ultimately the nature of the chosen subject is way to vague to have any encyclopedic value. There are so many racing categories in the world, many of which are not notable at all. How can one ever aim to make a list of all racing drivers in all categories from a certain country?? As someone explained before it is even defined. If you go by all drivers you get list that are way too large to have any encyclopedic value and if you go by active drivers you get lists which will perennially be outdated. In the meantime we already have articles like Formula One drivers from Brazil and Formula One drivers from Germany that deal an a much more encyclopedic manner with those drivers that are really notable
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTSTATS||WP:LISTN)

Comment: The nomination tells us plainly that there's an existing consensus to keep and that nothing has changed.  The nomination is therefore contrary to  which states that "'' It can be disruptive to repeatedly nominate a page in the hope of getting a different outcome.''".  These topics clearly pass  and so the following policies and guidelines apply: ; ;;; ;;&c
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Deletion policy (WP:DELAFD||WP:LISTN||WP:ATD||WP:CHOICE||WP:IMPERFECT||WP:NOEFFORT||WP:NOTCLEANUP||WP:SOFIXIT)