Deletion of Annabeth (Percy Jackson) (2nd nomination)

Comment: I see no evidence that there are |reliable sources treating this character in sufficient detail to establish her |notability. Have we sunk so low, MichaelQ, that child-submitted online "reviews" that happen to mention a character's name are to be considered reliable sources
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Reliable sources (WP:RS||WP:GNG)

Comment: If there is any worth information for this character found on the future then add it to the list of characters. There is a list of characters and I think we don't need lengthly details for characters, apart maybe from one or two. We can create very good summaries of the books in their page. Creating articles for characters won't offer any more good. So, it's a matter of organising the information we have in an optimal way: Good articles for the books that have summaries and list of characters to give profiles and/or highlight of the characters and more important present how this characters are realised in other media, press,books, etc. All this can fit in one article for each book and one list of characters article (with always the exception of the protagonist character which ''may'' need an additional article). If we have more information  we can think if something judging by the  but until then no reason to create article like that. A more reasonable expansion of information, depending of the material we have every time, helps in adding more quality information and helps readers to read articles
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Article size (WP:SIZE)

Comment: and encourage editors to address concerns per  as the character IS http://books.google.com/bkshp?hl=en&tab=wp&q=Annabeth%20%22Percy%20Jackson%22 in the notable books and does get her mention (in context with these books) in reviews in such reliable sources as http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_7540000/newsid_7545100/7545170.stm CBBC, http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08134/881237-42.stm Pittsburg Post Gazette, http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/kidzzone/bookreviews/11_13/1471418.Percy_Jackson_and_the_Titan_s_Curse_by_Rick_Riordan/ Worcester News, http://www.cbc.ca/kids/reviews/2009/03/the_sea_of_monsters.html CBC 1, http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=110C0FBF240EBA68&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM USA Today, http://www.cbc.ca/kids/reviews/2007/10/sea_monsters.html CBC 2, http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=222510 Business Standard, http://www.chicagopride.com/shop/item_display.cfm/varasin/B0014JOKL6 Chicago Pride... and with a library card, one can see more at http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-33756753_ITM School Library Journal 1, http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/access/1528766151.html?dids=1528766151:1528766151&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Aug+09%2C+2008&author=Anonymous&pub=Chicago+Tribune&desc=Read+%26+Write&pqatl=google Chicago Tribune, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-30493423_ITM School Library Journal 2, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-33618928_ITM Register Guard, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-15125058_ITM Publisher's Weekly, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-14002618_ITM Kliatt, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-32521713_ITM Booklist, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-25482655_ITM Horn Book Magazine 1, http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-33108387_ITM Horn Book Magazine 2, http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=110C0FBF240EBA68&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM Dallas Morning News, http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SAEC&p_theme=saec&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=118F887315F26880&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM San Antonio Express News, http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/1480374761.html?dids=1480374761:1480374761&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+18%2C+2008&author=Denise+Hamilton&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Paging+Daedalus%3B+The+Battle+of+the+Labyrinth+A+Young+Adult+Novel+Rick+Riordan+Hyperion+Books+for+Children%3A+362+pp.%2C+%2417.99&pqatl=google Los Angeles Times, among others... and then let's add the fact that her character has http://www.empiremovies.com/?p=25893 NOW been cast in a film spinoff of the book ''Lightning Thief'' http://login.vnuemedia.com/hr/login/login_subscribe.jsp?id=TIu1b%2F05xO30MdYrthSzweViix6O92oSlsW1eY7rBHxHHsNAKdSBglPL6zwa05cvTXLidQHiyauH%0ALRQXDK%2BQzlBopYhjVN%2BMtHEQZ9QNTwzEInuOTBlEZZeitrvUGTRei%2FtNCRQ43eaKuCOGNWmH4mU3%0A9m7zDXJgnacP0bS4FrJNIlLnSE7eo%2FL7YRcLRw3nf9YNM5Wi7Qsi5GmOawYcGlbYzQp5h8tCDssq%0AoOZU267dmrbizSDwD88nVMou4PvsEJWR4GRdSn3sHF4sdquxL14v37vxubSx0sXvtd7B7lDTiUmn%0ALlyPXIctFBcMr5DOUGiliGNU34y0cRBn1A1PDDZdfg7f1Mk5 Holywood Reporter
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Potential, not just current state (WP:POTENTIAL)

Comment: Until there are reliable independent references, this cannot be more than |original research and must be deleted
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:No original research (WP:OR)

Comment: as major female character in book and film franchise covered in considerable out of universe context in numerous http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=Annabeth+%22Percy+Jackson%22&btnG=Search+Archives&hl=en&ned=us Google News results.   Coverage in so many |reliable sources establishes the character's |notability.  Moreover, given that the character is the main female lead in a film and appearances in http://books.google.com/books?q=Annabeth%20%22Percy%20Jackson%22&hl=en&ned=us&um=1&sa=N&tab=np four published books it meets a common sense standard of notability.  Also, this particular AfD is being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Expanding_the_lower_threshold and Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Here.27s_a_frightening_thought as well.  Also, we should speedy keep given that a previous discussion closed as an unambiguous "keep" already.  In any event, article is without any doubt improveable further than what I have alreadys tarted and clearly per  and  worthy of at worst a merge and redirect, which we can always discuss as a compromise.  Deletion is obviously not the solution here, so we need to consider if the right approach is a merge and redirect or improvement or rewrite, but that can be all be worked out on the article's talk page.  Sincerely
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Reliable sources (WP:RS||WP:GNG||WP:BEFORE||WP:PRESERVE)

Comment: Agree with Pmlinediter. This article should not be deleted. Instead, suggestions should be made on how the article can be improved to meet  and how to get rid of original research in the article
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BK)