Deletion of Gondor

Comment: Non-notable fictional location, fails . I have noticed in the last few days that most of the articles in :Category:Middle-earth locations contain no references to secondary sources, and many are entirely unreferenced. This article cites no references at all, although it implicitly cites Tolkein's own works, so I had tagged the article with {{tl|nn}} and {{tl|primarysources}}. Those tags were http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gondor&diff=167055275&oldid=167049057 removed on the grounds that "Christopher Tolkein's work is a secondary source". I believe that this is wrong: as the article Christopher Tolkien makes clear, he edited collections of his fathers' work, completing some unfinished material, but the valuable work of an editor is not a Wikipedia:No original research#Primary.2C_secondary.2C_and_tertiary_sources|secondary source. Per , "secondary sources draw on primary sources to make generalizations or interpretive, analytical, or synthetic claims". Posthumous editions of unpublished works, so not meet that test, whether or not the editor completes unfinished material.I should stress that I have nothing against Tolkien, and I know that his works have amassed a huge cult following even before the release of the blockbuster films. The original works and the films are clearly very notable, as are some major characters and other details but that doesn't mean that every detail of the works is also notable
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:FICTION||WP:OR)

Comment: articles may need cleanup but Gondor is not some minor location. It is discussed as a symbol of mortality in this article in http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=543 First Things, it is discussed as being based on Ancient Egypt by Miss Navratilova ( :-) ) in a Czech journalhttp://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15702097, and it is the subject of the chapter "Gondor as Schmittian superpower" in "Studies in Law, Politics and Society"http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15702097. Gondor, as a location and a country (political entity), clearly has been the subject of considerable scholar attention, and is therefor |notable
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N)