Deletion of Tiger Squad

Comment: Article about a covert Saudi hit squad involved in the Killing of Jamal Khashoggi. The subject has got enough enough coverage already in the independent international media{{cite web|url=https://www.middleeasteye.net/tiger-squad-saudi-hitmen-khashoggi-mbs|title=REVEALED: The Saudi death squad MBS uses to silence dissent|publisher= Middle East Eye}}{{cite web|url=https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/jamal-khashoggis-murder-how-a-death-squad-operates-under-saudi-crown-prince/318872|title=Jamal Khashoggi's Murder: How A Death Squad Operates Under Saudi Crown Prince|publisher=}}{{cite web|url=https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jamal-khashoggi-murdered-journalists-severed-13462845|title=Jamal Khashoggi's severed fingers 'sent back to Saudi crown prince as trophy'|first=Chris|last=kitching|date=23 October 2018|publisher=}}{{cite web|url=https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/jamal-khashoggi-1.4874520|title=Jamal Khashoggi's tragic end is a wake-up call about the dangers faced by dissidents in exile: Opinion - CBC News|publisher=}}{{cite web|url=https://nation.com.pk/23-Oct-2018/jamal-khashoggis-body-parts-found-in-well-at-saudi-consul-generals-home-in-istanbul|title=Jamal Khashoggi's body parts 'found in well at Saudi consul general's home in Istanbul'|date=23 October 2018|publisher=}}{{cite web|url=https://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/saudi-arabia-safe-mohammed-bin-salmans-hands-1784595453|title=Is Saudi Arabia safe in Mohammed bin Salman's hands?|publisher=}}{{cite web|url=https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/10/10/15-member-saudi-intel-squad-sent-to-target-wps-khashoggi-identified|title=15-member Saudi 'intel squad' sent to target WP's Khashoggi identified|publisher=}}{{cite web|url=https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/10/11/squad-of-assassins-missing-video-footage-vanished-saudi-journalist-all-point-to-one-simple-fact|title=Squad of assassins, missing video footage, vanished Saudi journalist all point to one simple fact|publisher=}} New York Times{{cite news |title=The Jamal Khashoggi Case: Suspects Had Ties to Saudi Crown Prince |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/world/middleeast/khashoggi-saudi-prince.html |accessdate=23 October 2018 |work= Quote: "New York Times has confirmed independently that at least nine of 15 suspects identified by Turkish authorities worked for the Saudi security services, military or other government ministries. One of them, Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, was a diplomat assigned to the Saudi Embassy in London in 2007, according to a British diplomatic roster. He traveled extensively with the crown prince, perhaps as a bodyguard."|publisher= New York Times |date=16 October 2018}}{{cite news |title=Turkish police identify 5 suspects linked to Khashoggi murder: report |url=https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/10/17/turkish-police-identify-5-suspects-linked-to-khashoggi-murder-report |accessdate=23 October 2018 |publisher=Daily Sabah}}{{cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnX_lLXqp9U|title=Khashoggi Murder: 15-member squad that killed Khashoggi|first=|last=Video|date=23 October 2018|publisher= WION News}} to pass  and more details are expected as the Khashoggi investigation proceeds. If you have concerns about a particular individual/s mention or his coverage, Talk page is the venue for such a discussion. per 
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Comment: I second DBigXray that the subject has enough coverage to mandate an article. We are not going to |censor Wikipedia
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Comment: or '''Redirect''' to Killing of Jamal Khashoggi. Doesn't appear to be support in |reliable sources for the article
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Comment: to Killing of Jamal Khashoggi - not independently notable - all the coverage this alleged hit squad has received is in the context of Khashoggi (try searching in English or Arabic excluding -Khashoggi). My  says it will probably be renamed/reorganized following the fallout - but regardless - as long as the coverage of this alleged small unit is in the context of a single event - it should be at the event (HITSQUAD1E
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Comment: At present, sources are not sufficient/reliable enough. Also please consider , esp. "Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page." and Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion
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Comment: This is a stub article with two independent sources (MEE + Ignatius/The Washington Post). Death squads are part of the real world, whether they are called that or rather by euphemisms such as covert operation teams. United States Navy SEALs refers to many living individuals. Whether they are involved in defending democracy and human rights or rather assassins who defend US economic and geopolitical interests is for the reader to interpret; whether members of the Tiger Squad are defending Saudi society against the risks of a Syria civil war scenario or are assassins preserving a mediaeval culture is for the reader to interpret; whether they are members of a coverts operations group is something that we should be able to report based on RSs, with appropriate NPOVing. Asiri is referred to by both main sources. How many of the others can be referred to, or in what language, is obviously a  matter. Repeating this argument in slightly more detail: being  a member of a death squad, covert operation teams, or any military organisation, which may or may not carry out war crimes, does not imply responsibility of that individual for a national-level-criminal-law crime or a war crime. The Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation|US death squad training school (SOA) Wikipedia entry includes links to at least a few apparently living people such as Richard Downie and Colonel Robert F. Alvaro. Should their names be removed under ? Articles of death squads (typically with SOA training) such as Atlacatl Battalion, Argentine Anticommunist Alliance, Caravan of Death, Batallón de Inteligencia 601 concern death squads mostly active in the 1970's and 80's, and Battalion 3-16 (Honduras) is for a death squad apparently revived in the 2000's. There are lots of named death squad members in these, and many are likely to be still alive, even if not so young. Obviously  care is needed in this article - some of the edits have separated claims of facts from citations, but that requires editing work, not deletion. Should we delete List of United States Navy SEALs which, depending on your interpretation, effectively accuses the listed people (many presumably alive) of "horrible crimes" in the same sense as this proposed deletion
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