Deletion of TWA Flight 742

Comment: I am not concerned with "longstanding consensus" or anything that happened before I came to this article. We are instructed as editors of Wikipedia, to take these articles in a microcosm and look at the sources provided and the sources we can find conducting a  search. You may not like Fram, from what I see there is a lot of animus being thrown about, but the fact remains, no matter what a consensus decided years ago, does the subject receive significant coverage in multiple (intellectually different) reliable and independent secondary sources? No. So according to the notability guideline  the subject is not notable. If we disagree with the criteria that's cool, go through the process of changing it. Trying to circumvent the guideline just because enough people got together on an AfD somewhere, or wrote an essay about how bad the criteria is, does not change what we are given to judge notability by. If you had a consensus in this case then why didn't you change the criteria by which articles are judged for notability and this issue would never come up again
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion (WP:BEFORE||WP:N)

Comment: per nom - and yes, that's correct. {{tq|Minor accident (1 dead)}}. Per |consensus any scheduled airline flight that involves a passenger fatality is notable.  means "Wikipedia does not include things that are routine news" (which this is absolutely not), not the implied "Wikipedia does not cite the news". It would be ''nice'' to have better sourcing (and I would not count the NTSB as a "primary source"; it did not cause the accident, and I would ''very'' much dismiss the statement that aircraft accidents are somehow "routine"), but we have multiple |reliable sources for an occurance for which notability is presumed, and |that is enough. The article is in a sorry state, but |AfD is not for cleanup
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Consensus (WP:CONSENSUS||WP:NOTNEWS||WP:RS||WP:GNG||WP:NOTCLEANUP)