Deletion of List of military commanders (2nd nomination)

Comment: The claim that this would be better done by category is false and explicitly contradicted by , "''Therefore, the "category camp" should not delete or dismantle Wikipedia's lists...''".   is irrelevant as that's talking about sales catalogs.  And  is an essay which does not represent policy.  The fact that this list is large tells us that a lot of work has gone into it and so it would be blatant  to delete this.  And should anyone doubt the notability of the topic, per , please see sources such as ''http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F-QawgVmYn8C Military Commanders'' - just one of many such surveys
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates (WP:CLN||WP:NOTCATALOG||WP:OVERLISTIFICATION||WP:DISRUPTION||WP:LISTN)

Comment: There have been more 'keep' votes since the new lede came in, but I would like to point out thatThis is a list of military commanders. These include the "great captains" of history, as they were styled by military historian Liddell Hart; the major leaders of the armies in the most decisive battles of world history. Also included are those who were notoriously flamboyant, incompetent or otherwise famous, such as General Custer.means we're still including the (a) inarguably great, the (b) 'major' leaders at the 'most decisive' battles (whatever our editors decide those are), and the (c) everyone else with a page.This is not really an improvement, nor can it be improved with such a weak title and such vague adjectives involved. Any attempts to maintain a shallow list without much more narrowly-tailored wording is going to run into  issues. What this article covers really is as broad as a major metacategory & what it started as and some editors above think they can have really needs to be rebuilt from scratch at another namespace like famed military tacticians (with the criterion that they be currently studied at major military academies or even at all major military academies).&nbsp;—&nbsp
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Systemic bias (WP:BIAS)

Comment: just silly, this is always guaranteed to be 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:INDISCRIMINATE)