Deletion of Joseph Wren Memorial Trophy (2nd nomination)

Comment: I am in agreement that these two awards have marginally more notability than the Gavin Brown Award (from a football point of view), however, from a Wikipedia standpoint these awards do not receive independent coverage, whereby the Collingwood website and VFL website are not independent per ''"independent of the subject excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, the subject's website is not considered independent."'' and fails to meet , so I am in agreement with Aspirex's argument. Also per my statement in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gavin Brown Award; there is a long list of awards at all club B&F nights and all of these awards do not need their own article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:GNG)