Deletion of Deborah McGuinness

Comment: Either'' action, keeping or deleting, will send a message of some kind.  If it is kept, then let us please change the guideline described at #Creating_an_article_about_yourself from "Creating articles about yourself is strongly discouraged", to, "If you would like to create an article about yourself, because in your opinion the evidence indicates that you are important, then create one.  All such articles will be handled on a case-by-case basis, in which a debate and arbitration process will determine whether you were correct in your conclusion that you are, in fact, important
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Autobiography (WP:AUTO)

Comment: applying this guideline selectively is an inevitable result of using selective language to define it.  If the appropriate guideline should be "creating an article about yourself is forbidden," then it would be a very good idea to take this argument to  and obtain a consensus for that statement.  But as it stands I think that the complaint about inconsistency is just meaningless
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Autobiography (WP:AUTO)

Comment: Sure, I guess it's a double standard. But it's not "those who deem themselves important" but rather "those who we deem important." If Michael Jackson had created his article, we wouldn't be rushing to delete it. However, if local sixth-grader James Noname creates his, then I would be of the opinion that  applies
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Autobiography (WP:AUTO)

Comment: and cleanup if you're concerned about  (which is only a guideline, and it seems to me to not apply in general for "notable people
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Autobiography (WP:AUTO)

Comment: due to having had some contacts with the subject (I met her a couple of times), I prefer not vote on this article. However, I would like to mention that the number of publications, and  in particular the number of ''citations'' to the subject's work http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Deborah+McGuinness&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Search places her well above the "average college professor", as required by . Not to mention that she is a co-director of a Stanford lab
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)

Comment: If we are to quote the source, then let us do it more fully: ''"Creating or editing an article about yourself, your business, your publications, or any of your own achievements is strongly discouraged. If you do create an article about yourself, it will likely be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not '''start''' articles about yourself. If you or your achievements are verifiable and notable; and are thus are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will create an article about you sooner or later. People are generally unable to determine whether they are themselves encyclopedic."''   By applying these guidelines selectively, as is being proposed, you merely open the door to all comers who have determined, by whatever means, that they are "encyclopedic", to feel free to promote that fact in Wikipedia, resulting in more work and more time spent on maintenance, and in the meantime, further jeopardising the already roundly-debated credibility of this resource.  '''In summary''', if this article, or others like it, stand, then ammending  along the following lines would be appropriate, and would accurately reflect the state of affairs: ''"As a matter of practise, if you guess correctly that you or your accomplishments will be decided noteworthy, then a self-created article promoting this fact is fine and is not likely to be deleted.  Therefore, those who have concluded, based on the available evidence, that they themselves are an appropriate subject for a Wikipedia article, need not take "strongly discouraged", as mentioned herein, very seriously
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Autobiography (WP:AUTO)

Comment: We appear to have a lack of verifiability and the article does not provide any information on how she passes  in its present state
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO)