Deletion of Jocelyne Couture-Nowak

Comment: Read .  Notability has to be established beyond being a victim.  Those two are full professors which make them more likely to have some scholarly activities establishing notability
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Clearly fails . No other notability exists that would warrant a seperate article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: I think it is utterly clear that the subject of this article fits the criteria in .  This shows that  needs to be rethought.  In the meantime, let's apply |Ignore All Rules; it obviously wasn't *meant* to be covered by the notability policy, and we shouldn't treat it as if is regardless of what the literal wording demands
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N||WP:N||WP:IAR)

Comment: All sentimentality put aside, this individual does not warrent an article because of lack of notability by ''her own merits''.  The only reason why an article was created for her was due to her untimely death in a horrible tragedy, and yet we do not have articles for the other victims -- because of notability issues.  Just because she was an instructor does not make her notable; she fails .  The reason why there are not articles for every single victim in ''any'' massacre should apply to this individual in question
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: If she hadn't died this would have been prod'd without objection. Thousands of people are murdered every day and I can't see what makes her any more noteworthy than any other victim. If any sources that aren't obituaries - particualrly sources created when she was still alive - can be found then evaluate the article on the grounds of those, but as per Tejastheory above,  isn't a carte blanche to create articles from every obituary in the paper
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTPAPER)

Comment: the combination of her  credentials and her highly publicised death covered by the media internationally make her notable
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Does not meet Insufficient notability. I almost regret I wasn't there to be killed and hence become notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Fails . People aren't notable for dying horrible deaths
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: She sounds like a fine person, and her death was tragic. The same applies to thousands of people who are murdered every year, but Wikipedia is not a memorial book. She does not appear to satisfy . My views correspond to the essay , that an event may be newsworthy without being a suitabe topic for an encyclopedia. When the references all are related to a single news event their affirmation of notability is questionable. See also  where Note 3 says "Several journals simultaneously publishing articles about an occurrence, does not always constitute independent works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. Specifically, several journals publishing the same article from a news wire service is not a multiplicity of works." Her part in the events on Norris that day should be included in the main article
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF||WP:NOTNEWS||WP:N)

Comment: per Dugwiki. Much of the coverage is not just about her in relation to the massacre, but about her life in general. ''If'' this article is deleted, I ask that we all be honest with ourselves and recognise that deletion in this case is a rather clear case of invoking . The argument that "Wikipedia is not a memorial" doesn't hold water in this case as it makes a clear exception for people who meet the notability criterion
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Ignore all rules (WP:IAR)

Comment: fails 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Delete unless her notability can be established as per .  Just being the victim of a crime does not make her notable.  Please set emotions aside, this is an encylopedia not an obituary
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Mme Couture-Nowak fails to meet  by and large, she was a French instructor at a higher education institution, and with all due respect to all the hard-working French teachers in the world, this hardly even makes her an academic. You would have never heard of her unless you had classes with her or worked for Virgina Tech, or knew Professor Nowak for that matter, if not for her tragic death
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: While many people enjoy carrying the banner of  in the abstract as though one day someone comes along and awards you a certificate of notability, this article should be a speedy keep per  (Notable is defined as "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice"; '''it is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance"''' furthermore meeting all the notability criterion below), per  I don't think any single person will come along and say "Damn! Why was this article included?!", per  and  the article does not meet the criteria "Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content. An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject", and per  lighten up
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NN||WP:NN||WP:PAPER||WP:CSD||WP:DP||WP:IAR)

Comment: not because she can't be notable in death (Squeakbox) but because she wasn't the focus of the notable event that happened to involve her death. By the standard presented by many keepers, every single person who died in 9/11 is notable to have a Wikipedia page because they died in a notable event. That's clearly not a good standard to go by. Delete reasons: , 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NN||WP:PROF)

Comment: I agree the misogyny claim is unfounded, but Librescu is not being included because of claims of heroism.  He meets and exceeds . If Couture:Nowak did, there would be little argument about her inclusion
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: and redirect to Virginia Tech massacre. Her only notability was her death and that can be mentioned elsewhere, like her husband's page or the victims page. Death is not a criterion of 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Is not |notable; would be willing to reconsider if additional evidence were produced
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Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: per , OT, 
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Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N||WP:NOT||WP:PROF)

Comment: as failing 
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Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: WP:NOT a memorial, does not meet 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: at least for now. Does not pass , this is not the place for all victims from all killings or attacks around the world and time will show if she will pass 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF||WP:N)

Comment: because a) she is notable, b) she fulfills .  Wayyyy too early to delete someone who is part of an active and historically important news story as well
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)

Comment: Next time I get pounced on for wanting to keep an article topic that's not the subject of multiple non-trivial published works, the primary crierion of  (and belive me, deletionists will pounce hard), I'll point to this AfD as an example of the arbitrary relevancy of our inclusion guidelines
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NOTABILITY)

Comment: My condolences. However, |Wikipedia is not a memorial. &mdash
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT)

Comment: Fails .  Wikipedia is |not a collection of obituaries
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Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF||WP:NOT)

Comment: fails 
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:PROF)