Deletion of Joseph Wurzelbacher

Comment: Per .  Cover him in the debate article or even the campaign
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:1E)

Comment: What is so hard about 
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: to United States presidential election debates, 2008, and trim the content to whatever is judged by consensus to be due weight in the context of that article. This person is getting lots of press and is clearly very notable... for |one thing. There will be plenty of time to write a separate article about him when he gets his own chat show or whatever
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: Any idea that he'll be forgotten soon is |crystal balling.  http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&nolr=1&q=%22joe+the+plumber%22&btnG=Search 2600 Google News hits make for some pretty strong notability.  The guy is getting hugely significant news coverage http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-campaign17-2008oct17,0,373757.story http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap_on_el_pr/joe_the_plumber http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=121192&catid=3.  These and countless other articles are about HIM, not about the debates.  Come on, the guy is holding press conferences and interviews left and right. This meets WP's notability bar times 100. It's also worth noting (per the previous links) that he's being mentioned by both sides in today's campaigning again.  It's no more crystal balling for me to say that this guy could become a frequent mention in the campaign than it is for anyone else to say he'll be forgotten in a week
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:CRYSTAL)

Comment: to United States presidential election debates, 2008 per . Only notable in the context of that debate
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: per epic violation of . I can certainly understand why quite a few editors here are in favor of keeping the article, however. &ndash
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: The subject has been getting massive media coverage and easily satisfied 
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N)

Comment: Satisfies  by having national news coverage in October for his anti-Obama views and in an unrelated matter having national news coverage and prolonged discussion in the last presidential debate, as well as in McCain's speeches following the debate. "Joe the Plumber" is likely as important in this campaign as Daisy (television advertisement) was in the Johnson-Goldwater campaign of 1964, or Willie Horton was in the Dukakis-Bush campaign of 1988.  The carefully chosen and misleading campaign meme is the proper focus of the article
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:N)

Comment: to the debate article.  |Single event, this is the whole reason that policy is in place.  No doubt people will search for his name, hence the redirect.  I'm finding it hard to believe this is even under discussion
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: at best, per , #NEWS and I have serious BLP concerns about who this article is actually about, as the identity is in issue
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:NOT)

Comment: per How Real above. , if he ends up being notable somewhere else down the road he'll  pass |the notability test, other than that he's just an answer to a Jeopardy question (or is that question to an answer?), in other words, a good trivia question in a few years
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E||WP:N)

Comment: for now anyway.  This article is classic , but if he becomes more notable later, by all means recreate it
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: I have yet to here any arguments that refute the fact that this is a clear case of |one event notability
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP1E)

Comment: per #NEWS and per .  No one will care about this guy next week
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT||WP:RECENTISM)

Comment: Easily passes both  and .  Has been the in-depth subject of multiple reliable secondary sources.  The coverage has been substantial
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:BIO||WP:N)

Comment: per {{user|llywrch}} and {{user|Matilda}}, espically agree that declaring him non-notable is ing
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:CRYSTALBALL)

Comment: per , as it is overwhelmingly clear that this person's notoriety is only based upon a single event, and the guidelines for handling such cases are crystal-clear.  Not a single one of the "keep" votes legitimately addresses this point, and thus should be disregarded in the final considerations
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Notability (WP:1E)

Comment: I'm not really sure where to go on this.  At present, as a current-events reference, it's a useful article to have; I, for one, wasn't sure after hearing all those "Joe the Plumber" references in the debate whether that was an actual real person or just some contrived fictional example, so being able to find out who that really is on Wikipedia was very useful.  However, as an actual person (as opposed to his role as an example cited by candidates) he's probably not sufficiently notable for a bio, meaning that the article would perhaps better be placed under "Joe the Plumber" rather than his real name to avoid  issues.  Only time will tell whether either the person or the concept will have enough "legs" to be permanently of note rather than just being a temporary news item
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP)

Comment: Notability is established by number of third party reliable sources. Historical nature of presidential debates nullifies any  argument
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Recentism (WP:RECENT)