Deletion of List of international goals scored by Abby Wambach

Comment: WP:LISTN,  would both seem to apply
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTSTATS)

Comment: but a little torn on this).  Many prominent male international footballers have a list of their international goals within their article e.g. Lionel Messi, David Beckham, Pelé etc, so clearly the community believe that listing international goals is noteworthy.  It so happens that Wambach has so many goals that she should be afforded the right to a |standalone list of her goals (since adding the list to her main article would violate ).  Seems reasonable.  Although some of the info in the list seems a little too statty.  Having said that, there should be no reason why the list of goals shouldn't be allowed to exist
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists (WP:SAL||WP:SIZE)

Comment: Wikipedia is not a |fansite for every famous sports personality. Both footballers are List of women's association football players with 100 or more international goals|prolific goalscorers, but I highly doubt that each individual goal is as |notable
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Fancruft (WP:CRUFT||WP:GNG)

Comment: I don't see how this list violates , which warns only against the inclusion of unwieldy and unnecessary detailed lists of information within articles (''"Long and sprawling lists of statistics may be confusing to readers and reduce the readability and neatness of our articles."'') - which obviously ''would'' be a problem if this monstrous table was included within Abby Wambach. If this list was poorly sourced or otherwise unmaintained then I could agree that it's an unnecessarily detailed set of information - but as it's up-to-date and verifiable to reliable sources, I simply view it as a valid split of bulky information as per  that provides useful information to readers interested in more depth
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTSTATS||WP:SPLIT)

Comment: with Abby Wambach. Don't really see the relevance of , the info would be in a collapsible table not affecting readability - or reading time, note that a collapsible table for goals already exists at the parent article - and the two pages together, without any kind of stripping, would be under 60k (based on article sizes of 53,710 and 4,916). SIZE says an article of 200KB would be commonly split, 60k is ''well'' under this limit. Also note that reading time would be significantly reduced if the article was trimmed, for example the 34 types of assist she has received - which, by the way, looks completely . Therefore the logical conclusion would be to remove all the original research from the list, then merge it into a collapsible table in the parent article
Stance: merge
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Article size (WP:SIZE||WP:OR)

Comment: Did I say you can't have a list of goals within an individual article?  No.  Did I say you can't create a seperate article that contains stats yes?  It's either you have a list of goals under the main article of the athlete or you don't list them at all.  If these pages are kept then we might as well create ''List of Barcelona goals scored by Lionel Messi'', ''List of Real Madrid goals scored by Cristiano Ronaldo'', ''List of Premier League titles won by Manchester United'' or aside from football, ''List of Touchdowns thrown by Brett Favre'', ''List of World Series Titles by the New York Yankees'', ''List of Home Runs hit by Barry Bonds'', etc.  But we can't do that.  Why?  Because it violates .  Why are the articles I nominated any different
Stance: comment
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTSTATS)

Comment: I am well aware of , but lists of international goals exists in hundreds or even thousands or articles on footballers across Wikipedia. These female footballers, have scored more goals then any other footballers (except Mia Hamm) and having these lists in the parent article would be problematic due to the size of the list, and I agree with The Rambling Man that lists like this shouldn't be collapsed in articles (isn't that what  says?). When we do have lists of international goals in every article on international footballers, we should also allow the biggest lists to be stand-alone lists per 
Stance: keep
Cited policy: Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions (WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS||WP:COLLAPSE||WP:SPINOFF)

Comment: per .  I do not see any critical commentary that could be provided to supplement this stats listing. This is cruft. A pure stat listing of a players home runs was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Barry Bonds' 73 home runs during the 2001 season for the same reason.  Articles are not  just because they are long, but because the content being split is meaningful.  Sorry, I'm not buying the OTHERSTUFF arguments without more convincing justification
Stance: delete
Cited policy: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOTSTATS||WP:SPLIT)