copenlu/druid huggingface dataset:
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2020-07-15): Most homicides for which the race of the victim and offender are known are intraracial, meaning they involve people of the same race. A Justice Department report on homicide trends from 1980 to 2008 said 84% of white homicide victims over that 28-year period were killed by other white people, and 93% of Black victims were killed by other Black people. More recent FBI homicide data puts the percentages in the same range.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-02-07): Racial and ethnic disparities among homicide victims, suicide decedents, and homicide-suicide perpetrators are well established in the extant literature. In his seminal study on violence in Philadelphia, Wolfgang (1958, p. 31) [14] cited the overrepresentation of persons of color among homicide victims as "an incontrovertible fact." These racial and ethnic disparities in homicide victimization have persisted through the crime rate drop in the 1990s [15], the September 11th terrorist attack and its aftermath in the 2000s [16, 17], and the emergence of the Black Lives Matter movement and the push toward criminal justice reform in the 2010s [18]. The most recent statistics indicate that homicide rates are almost ten, four, and two times higher among non-Hispanic African American, non-Hispanic American Indian and Alaska Native, and Hispanic persons, respectively, than among their White counterparts [1]. [...] Homicide-suicide tends to be a predominantly White phenomenon. Research has indicated that White homicide offenders are at least two times more likely than non-White homicide offenders to commit suicide [17, 19, 20]. Additionally, persons who die by suicide following homicide are more likely than homicide offenders, but less likely than persons who die by suicide, to be White [21]. [...] S2 Table. Descriptive statistics for homicide victims, by race and ethnicity.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2014-09-28): • Black-on-black murders: From 1980 through 2008, 93 percent of black victims were killed by black offenders, according to a 2011 report on homicide trends by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. It also says 84 percent of white victims were killed by white offenders. In short, more often than not, people kill their loved ones, friends and neighbors — and since people of different racial backgrounds tend to live clustered together, they are far more likely to kill someone of their own race than someone of another race. [...] PolitiFact found that it was a back-of-the-napkin estimate based on the number black homicide victims in 2005, adjusted with the fact that 93 percent of black murders are intraracial. This reslt was divided by 365 to get an average for black-on-black killings per day. Finally, this was multiplied by 513 for the number of days between Trayvon's shooting and Zimmerman's acquittal.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-09-03): Racial inequities in homicide rates and homicide methods among Black and White women aged 25-44 years in the USA, 1999-2020: a cross-sectional time series study - PMID: 38342127 - PMCID: PMC11018094 - DOI: 10.1016/S0140-6736(23)02279-1 Racial inequities in homicide rates and homicide methods among Black and White women aged 25-44 years in the USA, 1999-2020: a cross-sectional time series study [...] Methods: This study examined a cross-sectional time series of homicide death rates, by race, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Wide-ranging Online Data for Epidemiologic Research system. We included data for women aged 25-44 years between 1999 and 2020 among 30 states in the USA. Homicide death was classified using underlying cause and multiple cause of death codes; mortality rates were calculated per 100 000 based on US Census Bureau population sizes. Homicide methods were classified as firearm, cutting or piercing, and other. Firearm homicides were compared with other homicides with logistic regression including covariates of race, time, and their interaction. We report odds ratios and 95% CIs.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2020-09-29): - Whites killing whites — 16% [...] Overall, most homicides in the United States are intraracial, and the rates of white-on-white and Black-on-Black killings are similar, both long term and in individual years. Between 1980-2008, the U.S. Department of Justice found that 84% of white victims were killed by white offenders and 93% of Black victims were killed by Black offenders.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2020-06-17): The data confirm what homicide researchers have long known: most murder cases in which the race of the killer and the victim are known are intraracial — that is, they are of the same race. This was the case in 2013, according to FBI data. [...] That pattern still holds true. FBI homicide data for 2018, the last year the bureau published a full crime report, show that the vast majority of murders were intraracial. [...] The graph purports to draw from 2013 FBI crime data. It accurately shows that white-on-black murders were the rarest kind of homicide that year, but the graph misrepresents the relative frequency of white-on-white murders, which constituted the largest proportion of all homicides. Experts say most homicides are intraracial.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2023-05-01): "White people kill other white people at almost the same rate black people kill other black people & yet you never hear anyone complaining about 'white on white crime'. These aren't points of sage wisdom from Maher. They are classic racist dog whistles."pic.twitter.com/VZlCoqfet9 — Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) April 28, 2023 [...] So while the numbers of white-on-white homicides and black-on-black homicides were virtually identical, the rate of black-on-black homicide was almost 5 times the rate of white-on-white homicide (since the black population in 2019 was indeed apparently about 1/5 that of the white population). [...] (It also of course makes sense to focus on intraracial homicide within each group as a fraction of the total population of the group and not as a fraction of the total homicides in the group. Black-on-black homicides in that table are about 88% of all homicides of blacks, and white-on-white homicides are about 78% of all homicides of whites; but while that's a reminder that homicides are mostly intraracial both for blacks and whites, it doesn't negate the fact that intraracial homicides victimize blacks at a much higher rate than whites.)
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2016-02-15): Murder is an intra-racial crime [...] A popular myth about murder that is frequently promoted by individuals who have unsavory social or political agendas is that murder is primarily inter-racial—that is, blacks killing whites, and whites killing blacks. This is almost pure mythology. In reality, murder is an overwhelmingly intra-racial phenomenon, as whites kill whites, blacks kill blacks, etc. [...] Once again, it bears repeating that homicide is overwhelmingly an intra-racial crime. According to the statistical data, the most likely victim and perpetrator of murder in the U.S. is a young, black male, approximately twenty-one years of age. Thus, incredibly, the same individual could be either the victim or the offender in the most likely murder scenario.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2017-10-23): In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime. [...] Overall, the BJS reported, "the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery." [...] This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2023-07-03): During the 5-year aggregate period of 2017–21, white persons (19.8 victimizations per 1,000 persons age 12 or older) experienced a higher rate of violent victimization than the rate for Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander persons (9.8 per 1,000) (table 1). This pattern held across all types of violent crime. The rate of robbery victimization for black (2.8 per 1,000) and Hispanic persons (2.5 per 1,000) was higher than for white persons (1.6 per 1,000), but the rate of simple assault was higher for white persons (13.3 per 1,000) than black (11.3 per 1,000) or Hispanic (10.6 per 1,000) persons. [...] During 2017–21, a greater number of violent incidents with white victims involved white offenders (8,721,450 incidents) than offenders of any other race or Hispanic origin or whose race or Hispanic origin was unknown (table 2). More violent incidents with black victims involved black offenders (1,884,250 incidents) than white offenders (371,540). Similarly, a greater number of violent incidents with Hispanic victims involved Hispanic offenders (1,423,520 incidents) than white offenders (1,006,400). [...] This report was written by Alexandra Thompson and Susannah N. Tapp, PhD. Erika Harrell, PhD, verified the report.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-07-05): In 2022, 9,655 murderers in the United States were Black, while 6,629 were White. A further 3,698 murderers were of another race, including American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. However, not all law enforcement agencies submitted homicide data to the FBI in 2022, meaning there may be more murder offenders of each race than depicted. While the majority of circumstances behind murders in the U.S. are unknown, narcotics, robberies, and gang killings are most commonly identified. [...] FBI. "Number of Murder Offenders in The United States in 2022, by Race." Statista, Statista Inc., 16 Oct 2023, https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/ [...] Number of murder offenders in the United States in 2022, by race [Graph], FBI, October 16, 2023. [Online]. Available: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2020-07-15): "The fact that (homicides) are predominantly intraracial is widely and deeply accepted in criminology and in police circles," said Jeffrey Fagan, professor of law at Columbia Law School and an expert on policing, crime and race. [...] The available data does support Hostin’s claim about white-on-white homicides. The co-host’s broader point — that homicides tend to be intraracial — also holds true. [...] Hostin said, "Homicides are intraracial.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2023-10-12): Brian Krassenstein stated on October 12, 2023 in a post on X: It has been U.S. policy "for at least 79 years" to require Americans who intend to be evacuated from overseas to sign a promissory note. Jonathan Martin stated on April 30, 2023 in a roundtable on ABC's "This Week": "Joe Biden was older on his first day as president than Ronald Reagan was on his last day." Jake Tapper stated on January 13, 2021 in remarks in a CNN broadcast: The second presidential impeachment of Donald Trump was "the most bipartisan impeachment in American history." Sunny Hostin stated on July 15, 2020 in an episode of ABC's "The View": "Homicides are intraracial. Chris Hayes stated on July 7, 2020 in a TV segment: "Higher education is one of America's strongest export sectors. Over 1 million international students studied at American universities, (in the) 2018-19 school year. They contributed over $40 billion to the economy." Desiree Rogers stated on June 10, 2020 in an interview on CNN: In COVID-19 crisis, "only 20% of African Americans had jobs where they could work from home." [...] Sunny Hostin stated on July 15, 2020 in an episode of ABC's "The View": "Homicides are intraracial.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-03-19): Although the majority of homicide victims were white, accounting for different population sizes shows that black people had higher rates of victimisation. In the three years to year ending March 2022[footnote 24], average rates per million population were around four times higher for black victims than white victims or victims of other ethnicities. Homicide rates across all ethnic groups over the last three years increased compared with the three-year period to year ending March 2016. The homicide rate for black victims has shown the biggest increase, from 24.5 to 39.7 per million population. This compares with the rate for white victims, which increased from 8.0 to 8.9 per million population. For further information on disparity rates, please visit Homicide in England and Wales: year ending March 2022 (See Appendix table 7). [...] Between 2019/20 and 2021/22, 68% of principal suspects convicted of homicide were from the white ethnic group, followed by 14% from the black ethnic group and 15% from the other ethnic group. For each ethnic group, victims were most often associated with a principal suspect of the same ethnic group (white: 83%, black: 58%, other: 52%).
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-09-27): Not guilty by association [...] A University of Leeds study of CPS charging decisions, published in 2023, found that BME suspects are subject to disproportionate prosecutions. White suspects are charged in 69.9% of cases, Asians between 71.8% and 73%, black Caribbean suspects 77.5%, mixed white/ black African suspects 79.5% and mixed white/ black Caribbean suspects in 81.3% of cases – a rate nearly 12% higher than white counterparts for similar offences. [...] A second study, published in 2022, found approximately 30% of all joint enterprise defendants convicted for homicide were from black and minority ethnic communities, rising to 40% of those convicted in cases involving two or more defendants, and 50% of those convicted in cases involving four or more defendants.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-01-01): Supplementary Homicide Reports (SHR) -Supplemental reports to the FBI's UCR Program that gather details about homicides in the U.S. -Including info about offenders, victims, and incidents. [...] A nationally representative survey of victims of property and personal violence in the U.S.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
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Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2020-12-04): Blatantly racist statements like these are commonplace for Brimelow and for Jared Taylor, president of American Renaissance, two of the most notorious white nationalist leaders in the United States. [...] The "Black-on-White Crime" Myth [...] He and American Renaissance created the "black-on-white crime" myth, a theory popular among white nationalists that, in recent years, spread online and inspired deadly terror attacks, including Dylan Roof’s 2015 murder of nine Black parishioners at a South Carolina church. Roof read about the myth via the website of the Council of Conservative Citizens, another white nationalist group with close ties to Taylor.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2016-05-07): "|Okay cops kill white people more frequently. Y’all commit the majority of crime so that makes sense, but the difference is they aren’t killing you because you are white. White people being killed is not the same thing as white people being killed because they are white. Black people are being killed for their blackness in a lot of cases. Cops are more likely to shoot us. " [...] Also, your sources are shit. Vox is basically the next buzzfeed. What did you do? Literally just google "White on white murder" and pick the first link and not even read it? They’re basically saying "White people, being the highest amount of population in the country, are surprisingly killed the most by other white people!" [...] According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.[33][34][35]
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-01-01): Additional evidence regarding crime among Blacks comes from victimization data. In 2005, Blacks accounted for 49% of all homicide victims (Harrell, 2007), which is comparable to UCR statistics for murders by Blacks (48.8% of total murders in 2000; 48.7% in 2010). These data reflect the intraracial nature of homicide. NCVS data show that in 2007, the total Black victimization rate (26.1) for personal crimes was higher than the rate of White victimization (20.5) (BJS, 2010). The higher rates of robbery (4.9) and aggravated assault (4.4) victimization among Blacks compared to Whites (1.9 and 3.2, respectively) are particularly noticeable. With respect to property crime, the victimization rate for Blacks (170.0) was somewhat higher than for Whites (141.9), which reflects higher rates of burglary (37.2) and motor vehicle theft (14.2) victimization among Blacks compared to Whites (25.1 and 7.1, respectively). Taken together, the rates of arrest and victimization indicate that Black communities are disproportionately affected by crime.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2015-09-14): With their endemic violence, these places are the real basis for the high "black-on-black crime" statistics that conservatives like to trot out as evidence that responsibility for the violence to which black people are subjected lies with black communities themselves. Understandably reacting against such arguments, liberals have pointed out similarities between intra-racial murder rates: 84% for whites and 93% for blacks.104 This seems a polemically effective point: shouldn’t white communities thus take more responsibility for "white-on-white crime" too? But again, something is being obscured: according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black people kill each other 8 times more often. It is not necessary to accept the rhetorical logic by which acknowledging this appears a concession to conservative moralising. Aren’t high crime rates to be expected in the most unequal society in the developed world? And isn’t it entirely predictable that violent crime should be concentrated in urban areas where forms of employment are prevalent that do not enjoy legal protections, and which therefore must often be backed up with a capacity for direct force?
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2024-07-09): Kendrick Lamar, "Not Like Us" [...] These crimes have the same root cause, but they are in no way equivalent. Also, Black on Black crime is not a real thing, unless you also condemn white-on-white crime, or brown-on-brown crime. The reality is that most crimes are intraracial. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, "the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims." Moreover, the idea that "Black people commit more murders" (a white supremacist myth), has been debunked as well. The National Registry of Exoneration noted that in 2024, they "recorded 153 exonerations last year, and nearly 84% (127/153) were people of color." This information, which is easily accessible to an average civilian is surely accessible to someone of Lamar’s stature. However, that would mean he couldn’t get off his moot talking point.
Claim: “Homicides are intraracial. When you look at white-on-white crime, it's 84%. Right? Homicides. White people kill white people.” (Sunny Hostin, 2020-07-15)
Evidence (2020-07-31): We can discuss why blacks commit more crime percentage wise than white Americans. That is a fact. That will help discover what the solution to this is. But inner cities where most black on black crime happens, is run by Democrats who will not address the problem. They won’t fix what they don’t acknowledge. Crap education and no school choice. Resulting in no jobs or poor paying jobs. Gang and crime proliferates. [...] A huge majority of homicides are intra-racial, with 93% of Black victims killed by Black people and 84% of white victims killed by white people. It’s a problem across the skin colour spectrum. But you do not hear the terms "white on white crime" or "white on white violence"? Why do you think that is?