He or she simply lacks the ability to carry on a conversation. So I try to persuade my students that in a case of a newborn baby with serious anomalies, where there is a question of whether or not to continue care, if the staff think that continued care is futile but the parents plead that care should be continued, the parents should be heeded and care should be continued. For the baby, not the parents, is your patient. Of course this advice applies only in countries with advanced neonate ICU facilities, and with a normal health system where care does not depend on ability to pay. Like Ibn-Sina, for whom Ankara University Medical School's teaching hospital is named, Ors is both a physician and a philosopher, and I deeply enjoyed the sharp philosophical debate in the seminar which Ors organized.
Turkey is like Israel with olive-oil, wine and guns plentiful everywhere.
But like Israelis the Turks seem very interested in deepening bioethical cooperation with other Asian countries. I believe the Ankara seminar was just a beginning, and that we shall see a good Turkish representation in Tokyo and Tsukuba.