And I need to still be moving forward, but the music also has to find an audience bringing more and more people in and then the whole experience is growing. That's the real challenge. I look around, and for my taste, there are very few people doing that. That's why I respect Peter Gabriel so much. He makes incredibly sophisticated records, intelligent records, that outlast fad, but they have a wide audience.
Sting is the same way.
He's constantly experimenting, he's working with some fantastic musicians, but he's found a way of communicating very broadly. That they're singers helps a lot. It's tougher when you're an instrumentalist. It just is. The Grammy should help in that regard.