We also see people who are in leadership positions and are highly visible in the University community. We have helped make them happier, more effective leaders. It's the relationships with that wide range of students and with faculty and staff members across campus that have made Schubert stay at Wake Forest much longer than she had planned. When she first came to Wake Forest after earning her bachelor's degree in psychology from the University of Dayton and her master's and doctoral degrees in counseling psychology from Southern Illinois University, she planned to stay only about three years. Two decades later, she's still happy on the campus that beguiled her with its springtime beauty.
Students are in the midst of figuring out who they are, where they want to go.
They're full of energy, they're bright and interesting. They care so much about where they'll go and what they'll do. Schubert didn't plan on making her career at Wake Forest, and she certainly didn't plan to become a director. But John P. Anderson, vice president for finance and administration who at the time had responsibility for the counseling center, changed her mind and encouraged her to become director. She has made the counseling center a place of help for our students.