That's what I wanted. I don't have much experience working with producers, but the experience with Ric was great. I'm not very ambitious when it comes to exploring other ways to do things. I'm sick of that. I'm really fucking sick of that.
Some people are shit-starters.
But there are a lot of misconceptions that Toby was an equal co-conspirator the whole time during Guided By Voices. That's bullshit, because I started Guided By Voices in 1981, and Toby didn't even come into the band until 1992. That's 11 years when there was a Guided By Voices without Toby. That's what created that whole thing. I like Toby.