I train the kids in a very quick, basic training. Then I use the kids to train adults. Adults training adults is very difficult. Teachers do things in group workshops they wouldn't allow their own students to do. That in itself makes this kind of training a failure.
Teachers are horrible students.
I've been doing workshops since I got my lab in 1983. I stopped doing it for about 2 years. Oh, I know Johnny, he's a nice kid. They sat down and the kid taught the teacher in two or three sessions.