It was different 50 years ago. Eleanor was so far ahead of her time. She was this great eccentric who was beyond everyone. Now Hillary's part of a movement. Women are working, women are running for office.
Women have ambitions.
I think most people will have to accept that the kind of people that will get into public office now, if these men continue to be our presidents, the First Lady are going to have ambitions, desires, talents of their own, and they're more likely because of our media-oriented politics right now, to become celebrities and maybe have a base of their own. I think we'll have to wait and see how it comes out. I think Doris is right. If she wins, it will be a trend. If she loses, we'll revisit the question.