And I'm affiliated with no one. I have heard good stuff about Osiris, the Coven, and those involved with it. And I have heard bad stuff, too. I have heard good stuff about Todd, the Sanguinarium, and those involved with it. And I have heard bad stuff, too.
Same thing goes for other people and subdivisions of the community.
This is the way I am, and the way I'm going to be. I'm not sitting on a fence, undecided. I am straddling the fence and holding my hands out to those on both sides of it. If I based my decision on hearsay, then the Sanguinarium would be excluded because I've heard bad things about them. BUT, so would the Coven be excluded because I've also heard bad things about them, too.