Students are not happy at North Shore University Hospital because there is not enough emphasis on teaching there, the students have not rounded, and students experience mostly book learning. The bar is higher at North Shore because of the travel time. There were no comments on the quality of residents at North Shore. Students are getting used to participating in OSCEs, however a few feel it is too contrived, and most fear that it will informally be used as a grading tool. The students are very happy rotating at Gouverneur where the clinic is well organized and there are attendings designated for teaching only.
Students easily perceive the attendings' interest in teaching and commitment to urban health.
Again, the students were not happy at North Shore, they felt it was a very different experience than that of their peers at Bellevue. For the clerkship as a whole, they would like to see a sample write-up and would like to know the relative value of assessment items for determining their final grade. Students questioned the role of attending rounds and whether they are graded on responses to attending questions. The fear is that they are being compared to their peers some of which are not team players and do not participate in physical work, but spend time in the library resulting in better ability to answer questions from attendings. However, overall the students feel the groups are a positive learning experience.