And how you can actually make it work in practical terms. Well, I think there is a readiness on the part of the people. Yes, I do feel better. I think what it's going to take is leaders able to mobilize those sentiments and have success. Suppose a new leader comes in, a new President, and one of these bills passes, that people feel it's really substantial, as opposed to the minor moves we've made in these last years.
Success breeds success.
I mean, Lyndon Johnson's first Civil Rights Act got him to do the second one on Voting Rights Act. Medicare gets you to do aid on education. It's like these muscles haven't been used by our citizens in a long time. I feel optimistic that if something can go right with the next President, he starts out with some success, that success could breed more, and maybe we'll have another progressive era. It would be great.