Let's just say that they're not saying anything bad about it. And you can expect to see more announcements about Sun One in the period between now and Java One. In that massively connected market, people have got to use standards. If you don't use standards you'll be written out of the equation. So part of the message over in Beijing was to say it is critical to use open standards and open technologies, invest in those, invest in your future.
Success is a long term thing.
Success isn't making money next week, it's continuing to make money next year. There's a dimension to Sun that isn't very well reported. That is key to that thought. Sun is probably the biggest vendor of open-based solutions on the Internet. When you say open source people think Linux, and of course Sun is a great friend of Linux and is a key player in the community although there are very few places that we ship it.