There are visible signs of what happens when there's no management. But these signs have to be shown in an educational way to people who perhaps don't know any better. The people who are fighting against forest management are probably doing so because they don't know the facts. They need to be shown, for example, a stand of timber that was managed versus a stand that was not. We also need to make people aware of how wood products affect their lives and how much they are needed.
Wood is truly the sustainable resource.
There is such a danger in the assumption that if we don't harvest, things will be better. It's actually the complete opposite. I don't think many people know that. The impression of Hollywood actors is that they're very liberal and very environmentally oriented. We discuss the environment quite often.