He's been in prison for twelve years. Scholtz sometimes feels as if she is in prison along with her son, but says it's not as bad as it used to be. It's a common feeling among loved ones, and a remark that Kitty Ufford-Chase says she has heard over and over again.
Many inmates are so hungry for another way to approach life.
That's what these workshops are about, and they can really be a powerful experience. Outmates is described as a place where people can talk honestly and realistically about their incarcerated loved ones, themselves, and the personal issues in their lives. People also come to Outmates to get insight from experts, such as lawyers, psychiatrists and some parole personnel. Since Scholtz became a member of Outmates two years ago, her role has evolved from that of a participant to being an occasional facilitator for the meetings. She has also become a co-clerk of the Prison Concerns Subcommittee, which works toward prison reform and the abolition of the death penalty.