And particularly here, while the county is approving things around us. I don't think you can sit there and say that using a car is going to make the difference. First of all, we operate bus systems, we operate buses south and we also have Metrolink. People have indicated that they will switch over to the train when the Newhall station comes in. I think that you're going to have to provide both services to get the people to use it.
Some people are more oriented towards buses and some are more oriented towards trains.
We have some people leaving Santa Clarita going to Tarzana. We have some people doing some pretty impossible things on transit. The flip side of mass transit is additional roads and freeway exit expansion. I think that the traffic situation is such, in my mind, that I already take routes at different times. And I already know where I shouldn't go at certain times.