However two of their sons Francis and George were living in Ardwick and Openshaw respectively in 1881. He married in 1741 Ann Brindley from Leek and their eldest son, William was christened at Butterton in 1742. Possibly his brother John's misfortunes may have been to his advantage. William and Ann had three sons who all reached adulthood and had families of their own. William b.1742 married Jane Chadwick and had 7 children, some christened at Grindon and some at Alstonfield.
Nothing is known of future generations.
William died in 1812 and his wife in 1831. George b.1752 lived in Grindon. His first wife, Catherine died in 1791 leaving three young children. George remarried two years later and had a further 10 children. William b.1786 appears as a butcher near Carnavron.