Reds are often caught with the latter using a technique that involves snagging the mouth.
Red salmon are notoriously finicky and are often spooked by large, over dressed flies.
This pattern is also effective for king and silver salmon when tied on larger hooks with a fuller dressing. Tie in the bucktail on top of the hook shank. The tail should be as long as the entire hook. Using your thread, cant the tail up at an angle. Wrap thread under the rear and put two wraps aroud the hair itself to keep it from flairing.