He looks to lower his costs, looks for that promise that's given to him by the developers of that technology. The people making money on my farm are the people who supply me with this BT-engineered seed . . . There are people all in that system making money, but the farmer isn't. Farmers aren't making a living. I think with time, resistance happens.
Pesticides are a great example.
The insects that survive will be the ones that are resistant to the pesticide. So you look for stronger pesticides all the time to introduce. It's what's called a pesticide treadmill. If insects develop that BT resistance, over the long haul, it will take a tool away from organic farmers. We won't have a tool to use that's very effective and very non-toxic.