NDE kids, he said, could help heal others this way. Winkler, Wade, and Liptay-Wagner acknowledged how difficult it was to do anything like this in Germany. Near-death states are still a taboo subject there, where any form of disclosure is looked upon as a sign of weakness. This is why it is so important to get books translated into the various languages in Europe, and to have direct mailings of invitations to announce meetings and lectures. De Vry cautioned everyone that the public's expectations about near-death experiences are too high.
People project onto near-death experiencers what they refuse to see in themselves.
This still is a very touchy thing. Dr. Andreas Liptay-Wagner was also present, but he was busy taking the picture. He has them draw pictures and talk about what they witnessed. He is hopeful that as he gains their confidence, plus that of their parents, he can at last conduct the research he has been trying to do for several years. Together, they continue to hold public talks and take advan- tage of media opportunities to interest and educate the German people.