What I strive to understand is others viewpoints and what road they have taken to get there. Please keep the comments coming and I will try to keep being clearer in what I write. John Walter, the entire content of the previous e-mail for your review. Walter, I think problem solving is not an inward process it is an external process. First no problem occurs unless there is external input.
Punishment is defined by the person being punished.
I know kids that spanking was the highlight of their day because they were finally the center of attention. Fear is not a very effective motivator but it may, in some cases, be a good controller, or preventor of behavior.