Then I would meet them once or twice just to get the feel. Then it would be my job to then talk about what the issues were. The Texas thing happened just like that, only that was an easy case. That's a good question. Multiple party disputes, there's a lot of things going on in there.
Some people try to handle that in different ways, particularly the environmental mediation people.
They love to do that. Of course if you can spend six months to a year to do every mediation case, and some foundation will pay you for doing it, you can do that. We didn't have that luxury. Plus what we're dealing with is violence. That's when people were ready to move when there was violence.