The South Bay Ocean Outfall also involved the elimination of 70 years of raw sewage going across the international border, the end of beach closures and the betterment of public health. Therefore, it didn't take a lot of convincing to the public that this was something very beneficial. However, we had a very aggressive PR campaign. We're all fighting that syndrome. So, you have to look for alternatives to still meet the end goal, and it's incumbent upon us as public agencies and as designers and engineers and consultants to really come up with innovative ideas and solutions to get us around the impact.
Transportation is a different kettle of fish from water and wastewater.
The EPA often imposes mandates on local governments to clean up wastewater discharges. And drinking water is something that people just have to have. People care about whether they can flush their toilet, or whether they can open up a faucet and get water, and the money for that can often come from the rate-payers or from federal assistance. But transportation is different, probably because everybody knows something about transportation. And, the other thing about transportation is that funding decisions can be put off and off until the situation is really awful.