The Upper Setting Road takes you up to 9,800 feet, but it is rough and slow-going. Passenger cars can reach the trailhead so long as the road is dry. Good camping, heavy use. S of Trial Lake on FR 041, then 0.5 mi. W of Haystack.
Rockslides make for rough hiking.
SW of Duck Lake. Subject to winterkill. S of Trial Lake, then 0.2 mi. Campsites and moderate use. S of Duck Lake.