Pollard doesn't hesitate to agree. So there's a problem there, because prog-rock is associated with keyboards. What I'm into doing is stretching the songs out, making suites that have 10 or 15 changes in them. But I don't want keyboards. I want it to be really powerful.
Strings complement that type of music.
But, you know, it won't. I always have some kind of vision for the next record, but it never turns out that way. But part of it, at the very least, is thanks to producer Rob Schnapf, who returned the focus to the songs instead of how they're recorded. Nor does the band sound like the Cars outtakes Ocasek forced on it. The answer, Schnapf's answer at least, didn't come from any studio trickery or big ideas.