Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. He may or he may not. To my mind he has to be there as much as possible. And then he can be, I would say maybe nearly a poet. People can be nearly poets when they do this.
People can, are poets when they are there with all of themselves.
Never quite reachable, I mean exactly. But only, only by that condition can you have the force of a poem then. And a poem is force, that kind of force. . . . Leroy McLucas, African-American photographer.