On the other hand, the number of targets goes up. So if you're in Toronto, those Toronto criminals have no one else to rob except Toronto stores. But if you're on the internet, all those criminals have all those other stores to possibly rob. So, on the one hand there are a lot more possible attackers, but there are also a lot more possible targets. I think we have to take organized crime much more seriously than we do hackers.
Organized crime goes where the money is, and the money is moving to the internet.
And if you can go on the internet and steal people's credit card numbers, and steal identities, and steal phone numbers, and steal products and money and possibly sell faulty goods, organized crime will move to that. They're going to move to it as long as it's profitable. And organized crime is likely to be better funded, better skilled and better organized than lone criminals, than hackers are. . . . I think organized crime is a big worry, and I think it's going to get worse, as criminals realize that there's money to be made on the internet. What's interesting about computer security products is they're often sold in ways you never see the real world products sold.