The question of equality is a confusing one. It's a foreign thought to me even to be comparing it, dollar for dollar. People rarely take advantage of all of their leave and vacation. Managers always encourage it, but you cannot make people do it and some people don't take it. You don't get the sense here that there is a lot of pressure or intensity, but people perform.
People have very high expectations of themselves and of each other.
They also talk about Patagonia's lactation-support services. There is a room set up upstairs with a breast pump, fridge and rocking chair. Some of the women who have their children in off-site programs might store their milk. We provide support to new moms who may be having difficulty with breast-feeding. If you are in a meeting, and your baby needs to eat, the caregivers will bring the baby to you in the room.