A lot of them need the skills that would have kept them out of prison to start with, and they certainly didn't learn in prison. We think we can reduce the recidivism, but I don't know if we can reduce the prison population. But then along comes the bill to pay for all those prisoners. So the Department of Corrections is always needing additional funding, but they are just the keepers. It's the Legislature that incarcerates people.
Private community corrections programs can do it for a lot less money.