The funding essentially does provide for seven, eight, nine, perhaps even ten hours a week. Generally the services are delivered in the day time. The HAC services and that funding is limited and the demand is increasing. The workforce issue s a real problem for us. All those issues need to be addressed.
Pay is yes.
That s right, and to so, to be able to respond to the aspirations and needs of older people, there needs to be a lot of work still to be done. And that will require a closer engagement of the government and the providers. The consumers, of course, have to play a vital role in this and, of course, the unions have to be engaged. There has to be a real debate continuing about how the system will work. There has to be more extensive trialing of some of these real options.