I think it had been outgrowing it for some time. I mean, the sun still shines on UM, and I'm not ashamed of that. But I think we can move to the place where we can joke about it and not be defensive about it. And certainly that was under way at the time. What I inherited was a university with a lot of momentum and good things going on.
Reputations die hard, and it was a very young institution, still is a very young institution.
As is the community. It's a problem when you live and work in a place where others think it couldn't possibly be serious. What we've tried to do is, first of all, be serious, and say, hey, you can have it both ways. You can be serious and have the sunshine. Which is true of course.