His wife died August 13, 1838. In 1847 or 1848 he decided to move to Texas and he took his daughter back to North Carolina on a visit to her mother's people and they went on horseback. What would the young folks of these days do. It took them over a month to go. Katherine said she enjoyed the trip after the first two days.
Papa never let the horses get out of a walk.
She said Papa traded horses every few days. She said sometimes they had to stay all night with the Creek Indians, as it was thinly settled. In 1849 he came to Texas in mostly ox wagons. They were six weeks on the road. Grandma in 1867, both buried at LaGrange, Texas.