Real conservatives, of which there are very few among the Republican leadership, but of which there are quite a few in the American population, will be outraged. It's my government. And then you have the possibility of a coalition between progressives and conservatives that would overcome the common corruption in Congress and the White House. The new Harris Poll says that two-thirds of respondents say they see no difference between Republicans and Democrats and how much they're influenced by campaign contributions. And other polls say that campaign finance is not a major issue for Americans today.
People are disgusted.
It would be really wrong to underestimate the repulsion that the American public feels on both sides of the ideological divide. I can't afford to put time and mental energy and my hopes into something where I don't feel like a change is going to occur. Once they have leadership and candidates and somebody who they trust to do this, I think they're going to be tremendously interested. I think that will likely happen on the state level first. I've predicted this now for four years.