There's no doubt we are role models. Wow, you've been together all that time and we ought to be able to do it too. I feel like now it's time they need a role model, of what it can look like as they grow older and form long term relationships and commitments, and grow. We've always taken gifts. We're not asking anybody to get married.
Men are still predominantly in government, in politics.
It hasn't changed. We're saying that the choice of whether or not to marry should be available. If a couple says they don't want to have anything to do with marriage, then they've got that choice. But if a couple says they would like to get married, that choice should also exist for them. And you can say marriage is patriarchal, but I think a lot of it depends on how the couple interacts with each other.