One is the wish and the other is reality. My wish and commitment is that relationship between the two countries must improve. We are neighbors and we can t change our neighbors. I am convinced that people of Pakistan and India want good and friendly relations and that is clear from the number of people who come to India from Pakistan or our people who go to Pakistan. Now we are setting up a South Asia Commission, an unofficial panel, which will meet in Kathmandu on December 1,2,3.
Nobody rules out talks with Pakistan.
But one point, the Vajpayee government is correct because you can t have violence and talks together. India is not against talks but we are against shooting and violence. If you keep escalating the violence in the name of jihad and go spreading the violence to some parts of India then how we can talk. Violence must stop first, then talks have some meaning. Otherwise no meaning.