They wanted the next Cisco and Microsoft, and all that stuff, and they were willing to pay a high price, but they wanted growth at any price. And as those other stocks started to crack a little bit, starting in about September, October, packaging had a very, very nice bounce. I should back up for a second too because in about June or July, packaging hit a more than 20-year low. It was the lowest valuation I ve ever seen. Then starting in about September, October the stocks bounced.
People are selective, but they ve opened up to value ideas.
That s not so bad, but a year ago everybody would have probably said thanks but no thanks. No, it s all management, and I guess there are some product lines that are better than others. But it s the same thing that I ve said for three years. I m going to say in packaging, but probably anywhere. That s one way to create value.