Everybody after that wanted to be a Production Designer and give the impression that they did more than the journeyman job. It actually moved everybody up. What used to be an Art Director now became a Production Designer and what used to be an Assistant Art Director now became an Art Director and I think it's ridiculous. It confuses everybody. It confuses me because I still think of the old Art Director as the best title, because it's the one that's understood by most people.
Nobody knows what a production designer is.
Now, on to Alfred Hitchcock. I was a sort of beginning art director. I had a brief meeting with Hitchcock. I was on one side of his big desk and he was on the other. I think he was really checking me out to see what my cinematic thinking was like and whether he could work with me.