The administration agrees that there is a crisis. We know we are going to have to have a substantial amount of cleanup involving the trees. 3 or 4 times what it costs to take this material out over the roads. This is going to be highly detrimental to the taxpayer, but further than that, the forest fires that will result by this roadless policy being imposed will be much more detrimental in terms of lives lost by Federal firefighters and others fighting the fire, in terms of the costs of fighting the fire, and we as a Congress will step up and appropriate whatever it takes to pay for those costs. But the point we are trying to make is the Smith bill, which is trying to give effect to this amendment, is going to help reduce the threat of fire and danger to our communities.
Roads are extremely expensive.
Anybody who has ever built a road knows how expensive it is. I do not even know what the price is today. People do not go out and do these things because they are spending somebody else's money, they are spending their own money. I would submit, Mr. Chairman, that this policy in the Smith amendment is needed. We are in compliance with all the environmental laws.