Maybe Semisonic will come out with a record so heavy that it'll get played. I don't know. I still get played on some of those stations, but only the ones that will play something that's not as heavy. It's just long, hard work. It seems to me that maybe the promise of the Internet and the future is that the people who care about music for different reasons, and don't want to only hear the 20 songs that radio decides you can hear at any given time, are eventually going to have a place to go to find out about music.
Radio really rules everything, which is a drag.
If you can manage a hit somehow, everything falls into place, at least for a while. Without the numbers, all artists struggle, and that's the classic battle between art and commerce in action. I still think it's very relevant. You can't deny it, because it's very direct and it remains extremely close to people. I also think nothing becomes clearer faster than the limitations of electronic music.