Well it's true, and I think the public interest in human rights is often, at best, skin deep. I mean the public certainly will wring its hands over what it sees on CNN, but when it comes to actually doing something about it and taking risks, maybe military, maybe using funds, it's difficult to get the public to support that. I think the public also gets what I'd call a kind of compassion fatigue or human rights fatigue. I mean, we're living in an era where information just gets pumped out at you, whether through the Internet or through CNN or other forms of communication, where you know that these terrible problems are going on all over the world. You start by saying that that's a terrible thing and that we should do something about it, and by the time you've seen the fifth or sixth such problem, you're sort of turned off.
People have plenty of problems of their own right here at home.
So I think mobilizing a constituency to address these issues is perhaps the single most challenging aspect. And it's true that it's easy to say things in a campaign that indicate that this is going to be high on our national agenda, but there's a cost to doing each of these things, financial or political or sometimes in blood, and getting the public to pay that cost is probably the single biggest challenge we have. However, having said all that, I think the public is not complacent. The American public recognizes that the U.S. has a very key role to play in the world. There's much more support for the United Nations than many conservative members of Congress would lead you to believe, or than many elements of the media would lead you to believe.