I mean, we know how to work with them. Once we figure that out, that's what all the details and everything else are headed for, which is their identity. Making buildings is like having children and giving them up for adoption.
Nobody can remember it.
There was going to be give and take. They didn't want that. We came in with a bunch of little cardboard models, about five of them and said, well, it could be any of these or it could be the combo platter scheme. They sensed they could get what they wanted from us. We do a lot of research.