That overflows from my life and touches the lives of those in the congregation. And as we grow together, out of that comes the nurturing of leadership. We now have more than 40 people on our pastoral staff, not counting supporting staff and others. Most of them have come from our congregation. A good example would be Norman Sper, who began our radio ministry.
Norm comes out of a background of business and television.
You try it and see what happens. So he began as a volunteer to develop the radio program, and it has grown into a full-time ministry for him. And that has happened many times. What always interested me was that we didn't have to start a ministry for these people. The ministry began first, and they simply stepped in to help it function better.