Restaurants are packed. Everybody's doing more business. We certainly have had a much more open definition of what jazz is. Most of that is about trying to expand the audience. See, newness is something I don't think you can create.
New things happen in spite of everything.
The minute you say I have to be different, you have a problem. You are different if you are a great artist. And yet, Michael, your only concert at Town Hall this year is Grover Washington Jr., who is more mainstream than mainstream. Opening up for Grover is Bill Ware, a great downtown vibraphone player who never will have an opportunity, unless we provided this one, to play in front of 1,000 or 1,400 more conservative jazz fans. So, getting the Grover fans turned on to some of the stuff that we're doing downtown fits our objective.