With knowledge in advance that the person is going to be gone, it's no different than, let's say, maternity leave, or something like that, although it's a good deal shorter than most maternity leaves. I think the intention is more the latter, a breathing space. . . . I would say Schwab is very accommodating in terms of supporting people who want to take job-related training during their regular workweek. So I don't think Schwab employees are put in a position of having to feel like they have to take a sabbatical to take a course. I think the big difference is, one, the length.
People tend to take two, possibly three, weeks' vacation. . . .
Also, because it is something that happens only every five years, I think most of us approached it as something special. To the extent possible, we tried to organize it in a way that we thought it would be most meaningful. I was not perfect at this . . . And of course, that's what all of the literature about sabbaticals suggests you do. And also, I was reachable.