My Lords, we are talking about fuel poverty. I have tried to suggest to the House that pensioners are poorer than severely disabled people. The degree to which they are in fuel poverty is significantly higher. Half of those who are fuel poor are pensioners. Only 4 per cent of severely disabled people are fuel poor.
Pensioners are more likely to be living in houses which are hard to heat.
Perhaps I may respond to the noble Earl by giving him information on which he has pressed me on previous occasions. That is roughly three times higher than the figure for Scandinavia, France and Germany. Only 4,000 of those excess deaths were in the age range of nought to 60, which includes, of course, small babies. That suggests that severely disabled people do not suffer at the acute end of winter cold, as the noble Earl suggested. My Lords, I declare a family interest as I have a very severely disabled daughter who cannot walk.