I can see that Quake 3 CTF is getting to that point. There's great organization to their pickup games, and they play on a variety of maps, and it would've been a great experience if not for all the people who bitched about how their teammates were doing, and constantly fired their machine gun at teammates who picked up a weapon they needed. It's getting there because there are people who have been doing the competitive pickup server thing for about 18 months now. They know what's up just like a serious Q3 tdm'er does. Counter-Strike has an incredibly long way to go though.
Pickup games can be great things guys .
Raping on pubs doesn' t have to be the only alternative to scrims and matches. Believe me, I'm not happy about doing that. But sitting on that DoG server, getting shot from four sides at once, I felt like something had to be said. There are now just four people on the Dust-Only server. Anyone who plays there regularly will know how messed up that is.