And, after 19 years of a fairly reasonable career in Canberra and in politics, I would think that would be the worst possible thing that could happen to me, if my preferences put a One Nation person into the Senate, and I just couldn't live with that. I think this will be a strong, hard campaign, but I'm not prepared to risk getting her preferences that would get me in if that meant I had to give her preferences that might get her in. I'm just not taking that risk. This party is not a centrally controlled party. It's a party that is controlled by the grass roots.
People have their own choices of where they give their preferences.
That is a choice of the candidate. Last year, there were some people, some members of Parliament, gave preferences to One Nation. There was no great hubbub about it. It just happened. There were some that didn't give their preferences to One Nation.