It proved something of a breakthrough moment. Over the next hour, they talked about his decision to stop drinking 14 years ago and about the defining moments in his life. The program was marred by a heckler, the first, Winfrey said, in the 15-year history of her show. She had him removed. But after a commercial break and the forgiveness question, Bush loosened considerably even as Winfrey and her audience delved as deeply into the governor's soul as anyone has managed in this presidential campaign.
Revenge is such a negative thought.
Listen, I think she got disappointed in some evenings. The host also asked Bush to describe the defining moment in his life. ''I would say the defining moments in my life were, one, marrying Laura, and, second, the birth of our twins,'' he said. I can remember thinking how brilliant all the other kids were and how hard I had to work to catch up,'' he said.