The word 'experience' means 'to go through', to go through with anything and end it, not remember it and carry it on. But we don't do that. So a mind that demands experience, other than the mere physical, psychological experience, demands something far greater and above all this, will experience its own projection, and therefore it will still be mechanistic, materialistic, the product of thought. Effort implies 'me' and something I am going to achieve, division between me and that. Division invariably brings conflict.
Meditation comes only when there is the complete ending of conflict.
Therefore every form of meditation where there is effort, practice, control, has no meaning. Please don't accept what the speaker is saying. We are examining together, therefore it is important not to accept what is being said but to examine it for yourself. So we must go into the question of control. In control there is the controller and the controlled, the controller who thinks he is different from that which he desires to control.