People say they want substance, but they love the other stuff. That's why when Jerry Springer took off the violence, the ratings went down. People love to see all the violence. They love to see all the conflict. And I'm telling you, it's not an absence of leadership in the American public, it's an absence of followership.
People say they want substance, but they love to watch the other stuff.
Well, you got 24 hours to fill. And Mr. Rather, you're talking about, alright, boom, half an hour. And you're gonna cover the substance and leave all the crap alone.