Both are very decent guys, very smart. Both of them are trying to put one eye on the progressives and one eye on the general election. Even while they tiptoe through those tulips, the pressure for change must keep coming from the bottom up. It's our job to make sure they don't succumb to temptations and fail to address the concerns of those who are working hard without job security, without health care. These issues cannot be reduced to just black and white.
Most poor people are white, female, or brown.
The basic human rights agenda should remain the point of the debate. You don't use that kind of language any more. What I've sought to do is direct some of their energy and emphasis toward expanding economic opportunity. We are trying to create a new synergy between the corporate leadership and underdeveloped areas. Changing the climate, piercing the veil, opening up access to capital.