Both have large,single flowers in clusters and are very fragrant.
Foliage is very rugose and healthy.
These wonderful roses need well drained soil with lots of organic matter added. Water them well until they are established then just in times of drought. They love manure and kelp meal topdressed every spring. Stay away from comercial fertilizers as their leaves will burn very readily. They grow about 4' tall and sucker readily to 6' or more wide.