Not very far if he says it the way you've just said it because I see technology as a major cause of social change. Of course I certainly don't believe for a single minute that people are passive and have no role in envisioning and creating their preferred future. To the contrary. But I think that there are many forces creating the future of which the will of the people is one. I think that technology humanizes and re-humanizes us.
Humans are never without technology.
Q. I believe you co-authored an article not long ago called something about the rights of robots. That actually was written by Sohail Inayatullah and Phil McNally, two former students of mine who worked in the futures research unit of the Hawaii Judiciary. I think that is a real possibility. I really believe that we are moving into a wholly artificial world, and that we might very well be the last, or near the last, generation of homosapiens in the form it has been for perhaps a 100,000, certainly 50,000, years. Well, Jim, that's a very challenging note to end this interview.