I have had a lot of experience in the Arts Council, and bureaucratic processes get in the way of the arts sometimes. I think Patricia is absolutely right in saying that if we start getting a public service funding body it will be far more difficult to generate the quality of broadcasting which we have developed in this country. If I go back to the early days of community radio, in the early days of local radio we started that off in discussions with local authorities, and got local authorities to fund the early experiments in local radio. Derek Wyatt 486. Local authorities are there representing the local community as well.
Local authorities are skint for money, they really are.
They are skint for money to provide basic services. As I say, they cannot get their hands on anything. It can do whatever it likes with all of the money. We must disagree again. Mr Maxton 488.