And secondly, and related to that, is I think we have a situation where sometimes the question is whether 99 percent is good enough. And that's another aspect of that. And let me give you just two examples. The first is a rather recent one. It's on my mind because it is now alive, and that involves an elaborate international negotiation in which we dealt with the problem of the death of dolphins and the risk of extinction of dolphins by reason of tuna fishermen.
Dolphins swim above schools above tuna and get caught.
And we developed an international program with the help of a number of NGOs who provided both the intellectual and some of the political muscle to get that done. That international program reduced the dolphin mortality from 133,000 dolphins a year to 1,500. We thought we were the guys in the white hats, and we thought we had really addressed the problem effectively. This was all done under and with the benefit of a domestic statute that sought to address the same issue of dolphin mortality. And a lot of NGOs feel it is, and some feel it isn't.