First of all, a lot of our information has come from reporters who have been there, and we treat those reports with a great deal of interest and a great deal of concern. I am very familiar with the initial events that took place. In this province there's been a lot of activity with the unregistered church, as you know. A lot of the vertical information flows faster than the horizontal inside the country, and in many respects our information was better than they had, thanks to people like yourself who have traveled there.
Human rights are part of our foreign policy.
If there's a meeting in Auckland to talk about our bilateral relationships, sure, this should be on the table. This is important. And I tried to answer then and tried to answer earlier today, I think that you have a human right that's universal that transcends nation-states, that transcends borders. You have this concept of neutral accountability in the international covenants that China has signed. Now, their comment in the press of dismissive comment was not unexpected.