They have managed to create a successful business as well as become top notch rose exhibitors. I also recall a Suffolk entered by the Bridges' winning Queen of Show at the Mobile National in 1994. Stratification definitely helps my seed germination.
Fragrance is probably the most elusive desirable rose trait to pass on.
I never use HT's in my mini program. 1- Know what to grow. 2- Know how to grow it. The smaller number of rose plants will allow you to take better care of what you grow.