But he didn't like the idea and he told Bill this. They'd settled in Cleveland, Ohio, a pair of Greeks driven out of Turkey who arrived in the United States with broken English and a desire to be American. After their son went to law school and settled in Phoenix, he even Americanized the name. Charlie Tsoukalas became Charlie Stevens. Even people who are born here have trouble interpreting the Constitution.
Lawyers have trouble interpreting it.
The guy told Stevens that if he felt that way about it, then he could take a pass. There was nothing illegal going on there, Stevens said. It just violated my principles. I had a poor family. I grew up in the projects in Cleveland, Ohio.