Why they got dropped after Clarity , they're not sure exactly. Not moving a million albums, probably. Capitol never did anything for them as far as promotion was concerned. But other major label perks, like a new touring van and time in the studio on other peoples' money, were fun while they lasted. Pop pop pop.
Beer is discussed.
Drummer Zach Lind enters briefly. Neal Peart and Stewart Copeland are in his top five. Animal from the Muppets. A first burp sounds. Jim hands Zach a can of Plato 13.