So it's a really fascinating place to go and look at the country which is changing so rapidly and has all these different populations. Case's work sometimes affects policy. One is a project on school quality and looking at the effect of school quality on, first, whether children stay in school and, second, whether they finish school and if they take a job and what wages they earn. We can document clearly the effect of school quality. And that's having some effect on the debate there.
Case cites another example.
The woman who was charged with setting up the new welfare system for the new government asked me to sit in when they were actually pounding out the new policy. I was an outsider, sitting quietly, and contributed or gave advice when asked. But most recently they're debating having low-income grants, because the very bottom of the distribution is very, very poor. They asked me to come when the parliamentary portfolio committee was having hearings last March and talk to them about the transfer system they currently have in place. It's never as a consultant, but as an academic who knows something about the numbers.