But on the other hand, the nitty gritty of the actual work that you do. Tell us a little about that interplay. Getting up in the morning with the smell of the graves still on you from the night before. If it rains, you're stepping into mud at the bottom of the grave, as you step out of your Wellies. You're in a country where maybe the water runs only between four and seven in the morning, and it's not hot water if it does comes out.
Food can be much to be desired.
But you can always look out of the grave and see a sky and the birds are singing, and you have to be hopeful about it. I think I'm just ignorant, I don't know. On that note, Bill Haglund, we want to thank you very much for being with us, and for sharing your extraordinary experiences in being on the cutting edge of establishing what human rights means in our time. Well, thank you for this guided tour through my life. And thank you very much for joining us for this Conversation with History.