And it's succeeded with that, just as Southern Oregon has positioned itself with a strong arts focus. So the idea is you can, regardless of what you're paying your faculty, put yourself in a public relations position of fulfilling a specific need in the system. That second goal that you just mentioned conflicts with a lot of other goals in the state, which is to be able to keep people in the state. When your children are deciding colleges, for them to be considering colleges within the state and be able to keep families together and to grow internally. We talk a lot about that.
Legislators talk a lot about that, that stability.
It's too bad that we have so many kids that have to leave the state looking for better schools. You've got two different goals here. And you've got to try to fit both of them if you're a state university system. The first is access. For access, you've got to have these things in Portland and Eugene and Ashland and possibly Bend.