Usually, we've worked out a song and gone in and played it pretty much how we'd worked it out. The songs I'd written for '13' just felt like nothing else I'd written before and it made perfect sense to me because I felt there was a big change happening. You live or die by the spontaneity of the sound. He keeps it very spontaneous. I knew he had a kind of perverseness about his attitude to music which I have.
Great records are the result of circumstance and a certain chemistry.
They are not planned. They just happen. It was just as likely that '13' could have fallen flat on its face. Simply, because they went too far, beyond their own creative limitations - and they do exist. After '13', it is impossible to say where that line will be drawn for Blur.