But when you have seen it at other levels, such as say 5000, which was less than four years ago, it just really kept on going. So you can't really make generalizations about what it will do from here. But you can't guarantee that, either. It's really a toss up. And bulls are people who believe the market is going to go up.
Bears think it's going to go down.
They include Abbey Joseph Cohen at Goldman Sachs, and others believe that the market will go to, I don't know, maybe another 5 percent more this year, which doesn't sound like a lot, but we're already up, I believe 9 percent on the Dow Jones Industrial Average so far this year. So if you were to tack on another 5 percent, that's a quite attractive return on an annualized basis. And help me with the numbers. Well, that brings us up 15 percent from 10,000. So, that's a quite optimistic view.