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Reproducing or republishing an article, in whole or in part, in any other forum requires permission of the author or the moderator. Additional information regarding subscription, submission, and backissue requests may be found at the end of this digest. More info in v3n177. The first since the Jews did not respect Torah and the second because of causeless hatred between Jews. What was lost to cry out about was the open revelation of G-dliness that existed in the two temples, moreso in the First where the people all saw the fire coming down from the sky to consume each sacrifice.