It has very little to do with us. I think that we've helped to hold it together a little bit longer. So I think these people are looking at the wrong symptoms. We've got to make it intolerable and only then will we make it illegal. In the history of cultural change in this nation, it was usually the grass-roots and the church who dictated change.
Abolition of slavery is the most obvious example.
I was with Daroline Firlet and Bill Cotter in Massachusetts four years ago in the rescues in Brookline. I saw the humility in them and the willingness to stand up for the truth even more than their own families and their own lives. That had a great affect on me. Daroline is a fireball, definitely, but both of them are very humble people. I know that they are now serving the most severe prison sentences of anyone in the rescue movement.