Prior to creation is called prior to the breaking of Adam the First.
Creation means since the breaking of the souls and the beginning of the correction.
Rabbi Michael Laitman. I'm not sure what you mean by kabbalistic ideas. The Kabbalah is not an idea, but foundation on which this world was built and a way for us to unite with the Creator in equivalence of form. Kabbalah only written thousands of years ago and fit to the souls that descended at that time. I thus strongly recommend to refrain from attempts to ask questions about the Bible in view of the Kabbalah as we don't really understand what it we're asking and even less of the answers.