There will be a network security market. And we've raised the bar to where point product competitors like Check Point have to come out with encryption, authentication, and intrusion detection if they're going to be successful in competing against us. That is the point player arena. We are clearly moving into a space where we will manage your complete network. And we've seen Tivoli respond in buying Software Artistry to put some tools on their tool belt.
Customers are less willing to spend a million dollars for just an empty tool belt.
What about the integration of management into Windows NT 5.0, its Zero Administration for Windows initiative, and the fact that it is pushing Web-based Enterprise Management hard. And our view is that customers will have multiple consoles. NetTools Secure and NetTools itself. And you're always going to want your mainframe console to reside somewhere else. I think Unicenter and Tivoli were trying to be the one-stop solution that was a closed circle where they solved all the problems.