Jim believes there is. Thanks Darrin, I do fully agree with your assessment of the debate and hope people will use your post as a prescription for resolving things and moving on.
Debates can only ever end in frustration where two entirely different things are being discussed.
These things seem right to us - we concur, and our morality is established. True morality, of course, is one's own intrinsic view of right and wrong. For my own benefit, and as I feel a student on this list, I have reduced the general argument to simple terms. This is not my summary of how the debate has developed, but how I think a ficticious conversation on this subject may develop. If there is anything fundamentally wrong with the following then somebody please point it out to me.