Wayne was talking about the young lady who was able to assess her own writing. I can see fourth graders talking about rule works in their writing. Kids didn't do that before. They're excited about things. They are again afraid of failing at high school.
Adults are more afraid of that than the little kids.
So, I think it's been a great educational movement and not inconsistent with movements across the country. If you look at the higher education programs that began that were being instituted in the late '80s and '90s in the feeder schools from which we hired, we began to see it in the candidates and we began to institute professional development programs that said we've got to teach differently because kids are in a different world. The sage on the stage is dead and they are out learning on computers and with their hands and we were teaching with people standing in the front of the room. It's unfortunate and that's what is really hurting kids. They think it's going to be us, we are all going to lose our jobs or we are going to test teachers or fire teachers, but it's really not.