Now he has Oracle 9i Application Server, and in the meantime we have established leadership in the market with WebSphere. No customer is into playing these games. They have too much work to do. I think it is hogwash. When you look at what customer environments look like, they don't have all the pieces.
Companies have heterogeneous environments.
They have applications that are already installed. They have business processes that are already running on those applications. They have operating systems and platforms installed. They have a database and they have a couple of applications. They have a mediocre Web application server that has no traction in the marketplace.