The second group of photos were taken in very early April 1998 on Staten Island, New York. By that time of year, most first and second winter large gulls have become worn and faded. I have included here photos of three different individuals. The size of the bird and its jizz are not right for Thayer's. At the moment, I'm thinking that it could be L. a. argentatus , due to the head and bill shape, size, primary pattern, greater covert pattern, and tail band.
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