This is an incommensurable world from the view held by the NC economists. This is where I disagree. NC economists are 'technological optimists'. However, one must understand how 'technology' is defined. Incommensurability relates to meaning associated with words.
Communication is very difficult across the barrier.
Trying to communicate alternative points of view to someone by using words that may be associated with entrenched points of view that represent the very meaning of a word, can be impossible. They are slaves. I do believe that NC economists and ecological economists represent different sides of a paradigm shift. They may use the same terms, but associate different meanings to these terms. More often than not these terms are incommensurable.