However, despite the opposition of the 2nd Vatican Council in 1964, Pope Paul VI declared Mary 'Mater Ecclesia', Mother of the Church which put her back up there with Jesus. Well, seeing that the Popes become infallible in 1970, it is foolish to argue. So much for ecumenism. One does wonder though, what all this has to do with loving God and loving your brothers and sisters as yourself. Krishnamurti was right.
Disciples do indeed kill their own masters.