Document ID: EPA-HQ-OAR-2003-0012-0884
Agency: epa
Document Type: Supporting & Related Material
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Posted Date: 2004-03-19T05:00Z

Notes
of
Conference
Call
Between
Kinder
Morgan
and
EPA
Date
of
Call:
10/
28/
2003
Participants:
Kinder
Morgan:
Mike
Vanderburg
EPA:
Ken
Henderson,
Jeff
Herzog,
Rick
Rykowski,
&
Lester
Wyborny
Notes:
We
discussed
the
issues
outlined
in
the
attached
E­
Mail
as
well
as
other
issues
related
to
pipeline
interface
and
transmix
processing
as
they
pertain
to
the
off­
highway
diesel
final
rule.

E­
Mail
Sent
in
Preparation
for
the
Conference
Call:
E­
Mail
from
Jeff
Herzog,
10/
28/
2003
01:
46
PM,
To
michael_
vandenberg@
kindermorgan.
com,
Subject:
Discussion
points
for
3pm
call
today
with
EPA
Discussion
points
for
conference
call
between
Kinder
Morgan
and
EPA
regarding
transmix
processing
(
10/
28/
03)
°
The
following
is
meant
to
explore
the
reprocessing
and
marketing
options
that
might
be
available
to
transmix
processors
under
the
following
two
distillate
sulfur
control
scenarios:
#
1)
­
highway
and
nonroad
diesel
fuel
<
15
ppm
sulfur
­
locomotive
and
marine
diesel
fuel
at
<
500
ppm
sulfur
­
heating
oil
­
no
federal
controls
The
fundamental
issues
under
this
scenario
are
*
How
much
of
the
<
500
ppm
locomotive
and
marine
diesel
demand
could
be
satisfied
by
transmix
processors?
*
How
much
of
the
high
sulfur
distillate
demand
(
heating
oil,
power
plants)
could
be
satisfied
by
transmix
processors?

#
2)
­
highway,
nonroad,
locomotive,
and
marine
diesel
fuel
<
15
ppm
sulfur
­
heating
oil
­
no
federal
controls
The
fundamental
issue
under
this
scenario
is:
*
How
would
recovered
>
15
ppm
distillate
products
be
handled?

°
Some
specific
questions:
­
Can
you
comment
on
how
the
fuel
components
in
the
transmix
material
that
you
accept
from
pipelines
for
reprocessing
differs
by
region
and
by
season?
Can
you
comment
on
how
differences
in
the
configuration
of
the
pipelines
(
diameter,
length,
topography,
other
characteristics)
that
supply
you
transmix
affect
the
volume
and
quality
of
the
transmix
that
you
receive
for
reprocessing?
­
How
does
the
content
of
the
transmix
that
your
facilities
receive
for
reprocessing
limit
the
slate
of
distillate
products
that
you
can
recover?
How
does
this
vary
regionally
and
by
season?
­
To
what
extent
does
limitations
in
the
number
of
storage
tanks
constrain
your
flexibility
to
recover
different
distillate
products
from
transmix?
­
Please
recap
the
limitations
that
you
face
to
reintroducing
recovered
#
1
distillate
into
the
jet
fuel
market.
­
To
what
extent
do
transmix
processors
know
the
sulfur
level
of
the
jet
/
kerosene
components
of
the
transmix
volumes
that
they
process?
...
If
this
is
not
the
case
currently,
would
it
be
possible
in
the
future?
­
Under
sulfur
control
scenario
#
1,
to
what
extent
could
transmix
facilities
segregate
transmix
created
from
gasoline
~
15
ppm
interface
from
that
created
from
jet
~
gasoline
interface
to
aid
in
reprocessing
reprocessed
product
to
different
markets
(>
500
ppm
and
less
than
500
ppm
diesel)?
­
Under
scenario
#
1
(
assuming
reduced
sulfur
gasoline
and
ability
to
know
sulfur
level
of
#
1
contribution
to
transmix):
What
markets
could
recovered
#
1
distillate
product
from
jet
~
gasoline
interface
be
sold
into?
Only
for
mixing
into
#
2
pool?
­
How
feasible
would
it
be
to
recover
15
ppm
diesel
from
transmix
if
the
transmix
was
composed
of
only
premium
low
sulfur
gasoline
and
15
ppm
diesel?

Jeffrey
A.
Herzog,
Mechanical
Engineer
United
States
Environmental
Protection
Agency
National
Vehicle
and
Fuel
Emissions
Laboratory
Assessment
and
Standards
Division
2000
Traverwood
Drive
Ann
Arbor,
Michigan,
48105
Phone:
(
734)
214­
4227
Fax:
(
734)
214­
4816
E­
Mail:
herzog.
jeff@
epa.
gov
Document
created
March
19,
2004