Document ID: EPA-R08-OW-2019-0404-0037
Agency: epa
Document Type: Supporting & Related Material
Title: 
Posted Date: 2022-10-13T04:00Z

Thursday, October 6, 2022. 
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>> Whitney Trulove:  thank you for joining us this evening.  The presentation will begin shortly.
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>> Whitney Trulove:  Good evening I've my name is Whitney Trulove I work in the public affairs branch in Denver.  You have joined the public meeting on EPA's proposed Drinking Water Act variance for Denver Water.  The instructions on this slide are to ensure you've connected to the audio.  And also inform you we do have Spanish translators for this event.  As a result, all participants must select, whether they will be listening to the event in English or Spanish.  To do that, there is an interpretation icon at the bottom of your screen that's in the shape of a globe.  When you click on that, you will choose either English or Spanish.  And if you have joined in the Spanish channel, I'll also want to mute original audio.  Again, all participants must ensure they've selected English or Spanish.
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If you are having difficulty with your audio in zoom, you can also call in from your phone, we've got a phone number and meeting id number.  Just a note that this phone number is not a local Denver number.  We will pause here a moment in case you wish to justice40 down this number.
Next slide, please.  First for those who may not be familiar with zoom, first on the far left is a microphone.  We ask that all participants remain on mute until we get to the question answer session.  Or the public comment portion of the meeting.  The redline through the microphone indicates that you are muted.
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then we have live captioning for this event.  In order to see the captions, you must turn that feature on.  And there at the end is the reactions button.  At the point where you would like to raise your hand to either ask a question or provide identify a public comment, you'll use reactions to raise your hand.  And below that, again, is the interpretation.  And all attendees must choose whether they wish to listen in English or Spanish and we have more instructions on that, on the next slide.
On the left here are instructions in Spanish.  In the middle is the box that will pop up when you click on interpretation.  Again, choose English or Spanish and those in the Spanish channel should also mute original audio.  Next slide.
There is also an option to participate by phone.  And these instructions are for anyone participating by phone to choose the English or Spanish channel option.
And we can pause here for a moment in case anybody needs these instructions.
Next slide, please.  At this time, we would like to identify if we have any Spanish speaking participants.  So, if you are in the Spanish channel, could you please raise your hand?  Again, instructions for raising your happened on your computer or device are to click on reap actions and raise hand or if you've joined on the phone, you can press * 9 on your phone.  That will raise your hand.  we will pause for a moment to see if we have anybody in the Spanish channel tonight.
Next slide, please.
Disclaimer for this evening that by participate go in today's online event you acknowledge and consent that your name, video image or phone number may be visible during this meeting.  This meeting is also being recorded to create a transcript of what is said during the meeting and that transcript will be posted in the docket.
Next slide.
At this time, I would like to introduce Sarah Bahrman.  in the Water Division.  She will give a short presentation and then we will take any questions before moving into the public comment period.  So, Sarah, over to you.
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thanks, Whitney.  Good evening, everyone.  Thank you so much for taking some time out of your night to join us here.  As Whitney said, my name is Sarah Bahrman, I'm with EPA in Denver Colorado where I manage the Safe Drinking Water bran.  And I've been with EPA for about 19 years now and happy to be here today to talk to you about a proposed Safe Drinking Water Act variance for Denver Water.
Next slide, please.
So, the purpose of our meeting this evening is:  First I'm going to give a short overview of EPA's proposal to share information about what this is all about and why we're here tonight.  And then really the main purpose of this meeting is to listen to comments and get input from you all.; members of the community and other organizations on EPA's proposal.  So, we can consider your thoughts and comments as we make a final decision.
We will also be taking questions tonight so after this presentation, we will answer any questions you have before opening up for comments.
Next slide, please.  Here is an agenda for what this looks like.  I will give overview for EPA's proposed decision.  And then take questions and hopefully that will help, if you do have comments, help inform those comments based on any questions that you have.  Then we will open up for live public comments and get some instructions for how you can comment tonight or how you can comment after the meeting tonight.  And then we will wrap up the meeting with just some short closing remarks.
We will stay on the zoom meeting until the planned end time of 8:00 p.m. mountain this evening.
So, if we run out of speakers or if you all have exhausted your comments, we'll take breaks in 10-minute increments just in case anyone else joins late and would like to provide comments, we will be here the whole time.  Next slide, please.
So, what is EPA proposing?  And why are we here?
So, EPA has proposed to approve a variance that allows Denver Water to implement what is called a lead reduction program plan to comply with the Safe Drinking Water Act regulations.  Those regulations require water systems to implement treatment.  And they've come to EPA to request to be able to use a different approach in instead of traditional water treatment to reduce lead in drinking water.  I'm going to walk you through the details of Denver's Water approach on the following slide but I want to start with the overarching comment that based on EPA's review, we have found that Denver Water's approach is as effective at reducing lead in drinking water.  This is the only criteria that EPA uses for this evaluation and so it's important to note here.
Next slide, please.
Again, the variance that EPA has proposed allows Denver Water to do something different than what's specifically required under the regulations.  Denver Water has already begun implementing this plan.  EPA approved an initial variance back in 2019.  And Denver Water began using this approach in January of 2020.  That existing variance expires next year in 2023 and Denver Water has requested an extension.  That's what EPA is proposing to improve and that's why we're here tonight.
Next slide, please.
So, this slide and the next slide really, I want to focus on what the main components of Denver Water's lead reduction plans are and what this variance allows.  So, under the proposed variance, Denver Water would continue to complete a set of actions that together are called the lead reduction program plan and they work together to reduce lead in drinking water.  So those different components include first determining the locations or finding where there are lead pipes connecting homes or buildings with the water mains and second, sorry, a plane is flying overhead here.  The second component where there are lead service lines present that connecting to water mains called the service line, where that service line is made of lead or where the service line is likely made of lead, Denver Water provides a pitcher filter and replacement filters to each household.  Denver Water is also replacing all lead service lines on an approved scheduled yule under the variance.  So that includes the full construction from start to finish to take out the lead service line and replace it with a line made of copper.
Fourth:  Denver Water does operate some corrosion control treatment, it's just different than the treatment prescribed by the regulations.  So, in this case, Denver Water has raised the Ph. of the water and is adjusting alkalinity.  Ph. and alkalinity are aspects of the chemistry of the water.  Ph. is either how acidic or basic the water is.  And alkalinity is generally like the water-sable to neutralize acid.
The fifth component outlined on this slide:  Included in the lead plan.  Denver conducts a significant amount of outreach and education and including things like awareness that lead service lines are being replaced and investigated to be confirmed.
And also educating customers on the importance of using that pitcher filter for drinking water, water for cooking, as well as mixing infant formula until lead service lines are replaced
Next slide, please.
Thank you.
So, as I mentioned earlier, Denver Water did again implement this plan back in January of 2020.  So, I wanted to spend a few moments also talking about what has been accomplished this far.  And these accomplishments are as of June 2022.  That's when we completed our initial review as EPA.  So, we just kind of took a snapshot of what was done as of that date.  So first, Denver Water has replaced over 12,000 lead service lies across the Denver Water service area so far in the first two and a half years of program implementation.
Second, as I mentioned, there is a treatment change included here.  Denver Water did raise the Ph. to 8.8 across the system to control lead corrosion and that treatment change was made back in march of 2020.
And then the third accomplishments, Denver Water distributed over 100,000 filters certified to remove lead in drinking water and provided replacement filters.
A component of the variance, as I mentioned, the filters, is an important component of the variance to make sure people are using those filters.  Denver Water also conducts a survey I've year to, as a way to measure how many people are using those filters.  And as of this year, based on the survey results, 83% of customers reported regularly using their filter, both for drinking and cooking water.
Next slide, please.
So, a couple of other accomplishments worth noting.  Again, as of June of this year, Denver Water had completed over 9000 investigations to determine where those lead service lines are present.
The map on this slide is just a screen shot available on Denver Water's website and it shows that investigative process and the current snapshot of what that lead service line inventory looks like or where those lead service lines are located.  So, the push bell dots on the screen, those are confirmed lead service lines.  The blue dots are, I think they might actually be squares.  The blue squares are location that's are likely lead service lines, but those locations have not yet been investigated or confirmed.
The yellow, I believe, triangles, a little bit more difficult to see on this map, but again you can see this online.  The yellow locations are those that are unlikely to be service lines made of lead but have not yet been confirmed.  And the green squares are locations where the service line is not made of lead.  So, there's no lead service line present.  That investigation process is still underway.  The second accomplishment on this slide that I wanted to note is the outreach and education component, so, collectively, Denver Water has distributed outreach and education material through over 7 million efforts.  And that's a combination of mailings, digital communications, and telephone out reach.  and then, lastly, Denver Water does have components of the entire lead reduction program plan that incorporate health equity and environmental justice principles into this work.
Next slide, please.  So, through all of these actions, I wanted to spend a minute talking about what the impact has been in terms of lead reductions.  As I mentioned earlier, Denver Water adjusted their treatment back in march 2020.  And that was an increase to the Ph. levels and an adjustment to alkalinity.  And you can see on this graph that's on the slide, it says date.  Older dates toward the left of the graph, newer dates to the right.  and that green bar toward the left side of the graph, that is when the treatment change was made.  So, you can see that prior to that treatment adjustment, lead levels were right around 11 or 12 parts per billion of lead.  And following that, you can see the blue line is the lead levels, you can see the lead levels drop off.  And really kind of level out.  And that is the result of the treatment change that we're discussing.  So, the lead levels have levelled out around four parts per billion which is about 60% decrease overall since before that treatment change was made.
as of the last compliance period, Denver Water's 90th percentile lead level which is the measure we use in the regulatory context, that lead level was 3.9 parts per billion of lead.  And just for point of reference, EPA's action level for lead is 15 parts per billion.
So, Denver Water is operating well below EPA's action level for lead.
And this data represents both lead service lines and non-lead service lines.  I do want to acknowledge that, again, not everyone has a lead service line as we saw on the map.  But those that do, lead service lines are a major source of lead in drinking water.  But by removing these lines through this program, Denver Water is permanently removing a major source of lead in water that's used for both cooking and drinking.  Mainly.
Next slide, please.
So, lastly, I wanted to highlight things that EPA is proposing to change in this variance.  As I mentioned early yes, we did issue a prior version in 2019 and Denver has been operating under that variance since the start of 2020.  And we are proposing to make a few changes, I will walk outthrew, three on this slide and two Ontario next slide.  First:  EPA has updated our federal regulations for lead in drinking water and so we've made a few changes to this proposed variance to a line the variance with those regulatory changes.  This affects a few things, mostly deadlines.  One example is under the new FedRAMP regulations, Denver Water is required to submit a complete inventory of lead service lines by October of 2024.  And so, we've incorporated that new requirement and that new deadline in this variance approach.
So that's number one here.
Number two:  We are proposing to simplify some of the reporting requirements.  The initial variance was really about program startup company as EPA, we wanted a lot of information to be able to confirm with Denver Water and with our partners at the Colorado public health and environment that this variance was working and it's with an Iqaluit effective.  Now we're in a little different place, the program is already underway, and so we are proposing that less report something needed now compared to the beginning, because Denver Water has already proven that this lead reduction program plan is effective.  That said, while we've simplified and streamlined reporting requirements, there is still a lot of reporting required because we, at EPA, want to make sure that this program is effective throughout the term of the variance.  That's number two on the slide.
Number three:  EPA is proposing to adjust some requirements to account for program completion.  The first initial variance was only for three years.  This current variance could last until Denver Water completes all lead service line replacements so we wanted to make sure we were asking thing for anything that needed to change as the program neared completion.  So, an example of that, is when lead service line replacements are complete, we've included the requirement that Denver Water certified to EPA that all lead service lies have been replaced and the construction is done and they'll continue to implement the, excuse me, ph. and alkalinity treatment.  Next slide, please.  Two other changes I wanted to mention, number four on the screen, EPA is proposing to add a new compliance metric to the variance.  So that lead service line replacement and outreach done about filters cannot result in a disproportionate impact to health equity and environmental justice areas of concern.
So, what this metric means is that:  All parts of the Denver Water service area would receive lead service line replacements at the same pace and would receive filter out reach at the same frequency.  Number five on the screen here, EPA plans to further revise federal regulations for lead in drinking water and that's something we're working on right now.  If we issue a final regulation that is different for lead in drinking water, this current variance would terminate.  But Denver Water will be able to request a variance from the new regulation in order to complete this program.  The reason we're structuring it this way because it's difficult for us to forecast as an answer what that will look like once we propose something and receive final comments.  So, we can't issue a variance from something that doesn't exist right now.  That's the fifth thing we would like to change.  Next slide, please.  There're multiple ways to comment but I wanted to focus on how to get more information.  So, in a mini will take questions, but there's a lot more detail online in both English and Spanish and it's available at a website called regulations.gov all organized in a docket which is a grouping of all the relative documents relating to this proposal and the docket number is shown there on the slide.  So specifically, what you can view on this website is the full variance order.  So, this means like a legal document and includes the detailed requirements that Denver Water would need to follow under this variance.  That's one set of documents.  A second set of documents is an appendix so that variance or if it's included as a separate file, and here, EPA has explained our evaluation, the analysis that we conducted and the rationale we've used in determining that Denver Water lead reduction program plan is as effective at reducing lead in drinking water.
And the last document I will mention that's here is a public notice.  That's kind of the name of the document.  And this covers highlights about the variance.  Similar to what I've covered tonight.  So, it's a shorter version of this information if you'd like to go and read that.
What I've shown on this slide here too is where you can up load comments.  So, we will take comments tonight and go over how to provide those.  You can also provide comments through the docket by clicking on browse documents that middle tab there and then clicking on a comment button circles in green either English or Spanish version of the public notice document.
Next slide, please.
So just showed you kind of a screen shot for how to submit comments at regulations.gov, that's method number two here.  How else you can submit comments is tonight, right now at the public meeting.  We will give priority to people who registered in advance but we will spend a few minutes providing instructions for how to provide comments before we open up for them.  I do want to mention that the deadline for submitting comments is tomorrow, Friday October 7.
Next slide, please.
Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to join us tonight.  We are going to transition to a question-and-answer session but I do want to leave this slide up for a minute, you're welcome to ask questions tonight.  But you're also welcome to email me if you have questions.  I have my email address on the slide.  I will do my best to answer those or I will coordinate with others on the EPA team and make sure that we get back to you.  So, I will just pause for a minute if you want to write my email address down.
Okay.  So, with that, I'm going to turn it back to you, Whitney, to see if there's any questions?  Next slide, please, Troy
>> Whitney Trulove:  Okay.  At this time, if you would like to ask any questions of Sarah, here are instructions for how to raise your hand on your computer or device.  The reactions button.  And then raise hand.  And if you are joining on a smart phone, you would press * 9 on your phone.  So, we'll pause here for a moment and see if we get any hands raised.  We have Rob Parker watching for hands at this moment.
>>>:  At this time, we do not have any hands raised. 
>> Laura:  We have no comments in the chat box either.
>> Whitney Trulove:  Thank you.
Sarah, would you like to proceed to the public comment portion?
>> Sarah Bahrman:    I think that sounds good.  Thanks, Whitney. 
>> Whitney Trulove:  Okay.  So, we did have one individual who had pre-registered to speak.  I do not see his name in the participants list this evening.  That was Tyson, Ingels, he did participate in yesterday afternoon's meeting.  So just confirming whether Tyson has joined us tonight? 
You can unmute if you are on the call with us.
Troy, you can advance to the next slide.  Not hearing from Tyson, I will go through for other participants that you can also choose to comment verbally this evening or you can write your comments in the chat.
For those, who submit comments in the chat, those will be read out loud by our co-worker, Laura and if you make verbal comments, we have five-minute timer on the screen to help you monitor the time you have and you may also turn on your camera if you wish while you're making your verbal comments.
And a few more details on the next slide, please.
To submit your written comments in the chat you will open the chat box and from the drop down, you will select comments, Laura Jenkins that indicates your comments will go to Laura.
And again, she will read them out loud for all participants to hear as well as for the transcript.
And next slide, please.
Again, if you wish to speak by raising your hand, you will click on the reactions button and raise your hand and if you are on the smart phone, you can press * 9 on your phone to raise your hand.  So, at this time, I will check in with rob to see if there are any hands raised?
>>>:  Whitney, I do not see any hands raised at the moment.
>> Whitney Trulove:  Great. 
And, Laura, it may be too soon to check for comments, but let us know if you see comments. 
>> Laura:  There are no additional comments in the chat.
>> Whitney Trulove:  Would you like to pause here for a few minutes or would you like to go to a break? 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  I think so.  Let's just wait, give folks a chance to decide if they would like to comment or type something in the chat.  Maybe let's just pause for about a minute.  And then we can take a break if there's no comments. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Let's check back in with rob and Laura on hands or comments in the chat. 
>>>:  Thanks, Sarah, I do not see any raised hands at the moment. 
>> Laura:  We have no comments in the chat either.
>> Sarah Bahrman:    Okay.  Thank you both.  So, with that, I am going to suggest that we go on break.  For those of you who have joined us.  That is the end of EPA's formal presentation this evening.  But we are going to stay on the line until 8:00 p.m. in case anybody else joins us and would like to make comments or in case any of you who have joined us so far decide you like to make comments.  So, we've got a 10-minute timer here.  We will be back in 10 minutes to see if anyone has joined or if you all would like to make comments.  But again, we will be here until 8:00 p.m.  You're welcome to stay or drop off, just wanted to let you know that we won't be giving any more presentation or remarks this evening and again you've got my email address if you'd like to send questions that way as well.
So Troy, let's start that timer and go on break.  Thanks everyone. 
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>> Whitney Trulove:  I just put four minutes on my phone timer, so if we don't get the slide timer resolved, I will let you know when we are ready to check in again.
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thanks, Whitney.
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>> Whitney Trulove:  One minute remaining on the timer. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thank you. 
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>> Whitney Trulove:  Time is up, Sarah.
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thanks, Whitney.  let's check back in with everyone.  Again.  If you would like to share your thoughts today on EPA's proposal to approve a variance for Denver Water to reduce lead in drinking water, you can either send us a chat in zoom by sending that chat directly to comments, Laura Jenkins.  Or you can raise your hand and we will call you by name.  If you're joining on the telephone, you can press * 9 on the phone and that will raise your hand by phone.  So, I'm going to pause just a minute, allow everyone a chance to gather any comments you might want to share and raise your land or type them in the chat.  We will read them a loud if you type them in the chat just so that all the other participants can hear them:
Rob, i will go to you first to see if there are any hands raised. 
>>>:  I do not see any hands raised at this time. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thank you.  Already Laura? 
>> Laura:  Sarah, we have no comments in the chat. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thank you both.
I will give it one more minute.  Again, we will be here until 8:00 p.m. in case anyone joins the meeting late but there will not be any formal presentation from EPA.  We will just be here to listen to any input or comments until 8:00 p.m. mountain time.  Feel free to email me with any questions.  I put my email address in the chat as well, so that should be available even though it's not on the slide now.  Let me check in one more time with Rob and Laura, see if there's any comments. 
>>>:  Things, Sarah, I do not see any comments at this time. 
>> Laura:  Same here, Sarah, no comments in the chat. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Okay.  Thank you both.  I'm going to suggest we take another 10-minute break.  See if I can get the timer working.  Take a 10-minute break and come back in 10 minutes to see if there are any comments.  Thanks everyone. 
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>> Sarah Bahrman:  Okay, thank you.  Welcome back everyone from the break.  Just a reminder if you'd like to share your thoughts, input, comment for EPA for us to consider in making our final decision, now is your time to do that. 
You can submit input by the chat feature in zoom, by sending a direct chat message to comments, Laura Jenkins, you can raise your hand in zoom.  By click okay reactions and raise your hand.  And if you're on the phone, you can press * 9 on the phone to raise your hand.  We will wait just a minute here as a reminder, there won't be any formal presentations from EPA tonight but we will stay on the phone for the next hour or so.  Stay on the webinar here.  And make sure that we're able to listen to any comments, should people join later.
Just give folks a minute to decide if they want to submit comments at this time or raise their hand.  Rob and Laura, I'm going to check in with you. 
>>>:  Thanks, Sarah, at this time I do not see any hands raised. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thank you. 
>> Laura:  And Sarah, there are no comments in the chat. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Great, thank you.  And i don't see any new participants have joined.  So, I'm going to suggest that we go back on break we'll be back, everyone, in 10 minutes to check in, see if anyone else has joined or if there are any comments from those that are on tonight.  Thank you.
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>> Sarah Bahrman:    Okay.  Welcome back everybody.  thank you so much for joining.  My name is Sarah Bahrman with the environmental protection agency and we're just coming back from break.
For those of you who have just joined, we are in the public comment section of the agenda this evening.  We're accepting public comments on EPA's proposal to approve a variance for Denver Water as an alternative way to reduce lead and drinking water.
There are multiple ways to share your comments tonight.  First, you can accept a zoom chat to star comments in the drop down as shown on the screen.  You can also raise your hand in zoom or press * 9 if you're joining by telephone as a way to raise your hand.
And provide comments.
For those who are just joining, I'm also going to put my name in the chat and my email address in the chat.
I did give a short presentation earlier this evening about EPA's proposed decision and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have this evening or by email at the email address I just put in the chat.  So, I'm going to pause here if anyone would like to share comments.  Please go ahead and raise your hand or start typing your message or input in the chat box to "comments".  We will just pause for a minute for you to decide whether to submit comments if there are none, we will be here until 8:00 o'clock, but we will take a break so I'm just going to give you all a few minutes to decide if you want to comment.
Okay I'm just going to check in here, Rob, and Laura if you can let me know if you see hands raised or comments in the chat? 
>> Laura:  Sarah, this is Laura, there are no comments in the chat. 
>>>:  This is Rob, I see no hands raised at this time.
>> Sarah Bahrman:    Thank you.  I do see a question sent to me in the chat if there is a way to access the previous slides.  Thank you for that question.  And we are recording top's session and creating a transcript so we will definitely be sharing that transcript through the docket and I will follow-up directly on the question about the slides in just a minute.  If we can figure out a way to share those as well.  So, let's go ahead and take a break.  I will reply to that question in the chat, but answer it for everybody after this as well just as soon as I figure out what's feasible.  So, take a short 10-minute break and we'll be right back.  Thank you.
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>> Sarah Bahrman:    Okay.  Welcome back everybody.  I just want to start with a question we had in the chat before the break.  And for those who joined in the presentation, if you would like a copy of the slides used to provide an overview of EPA's proposed decision, please submit your email address and we will be happy to email you a copy of those slides.  We're also going to post the slides on the dock at the at regulations.gov.
and I will include some information in the chat for everybody on how to access that docket because there's a specific docket number.  So happy to email you copies of the slides directly as well or you can access them on the docket.
So, with that, I will switch back over to see if anybody who's participating would like to submit comments this evening.  Again, you can do so through the chat, following the instructions one slide on by raising your hand in zoom, clicking on the raise hand button or pressing * 9 on the phone. 
Give it just a minute to give you guys a chance to see if you'd like to submit comments and then we will go to look and see if we have anything. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Many going to check in with Rob and Laura, see if we have any hands raised or chat messages. 
>>>:  Sarah, I do not see any hands raised at this time. 
>> Laura:  Sarah, this is Laura and no comments in the chat at this time.
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Okay.  Thank you.  And thanks everyone for joining.  Just a reminder that EPA won't be giving any additional formal remarks today.  But we will stay on the line for the last half hour here in case anyone else joins.  But we will go ahead and go back on a 10-minute break.  For the participant who requested a copy of the slides, I'm going to send that over right now by email and for others, we will go ahead and start the break and be back in 10 minutes to see if anyone new has joined or if anyone would like to provide comments.  Thank you. 
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>> Sarah Bahrman:    Okay.  Welcome back thanks for sticking with us.  I just want to remind everyone that we will make those slides available on the docket and I did post in the chat a couple of minutes ago the web address at regulations.gov and the docket number.  You can accept for that docket new.  You can type in did he very water, it'll show up on the list of dockets.  And you can click on that and find the slides that way.
So, I'll just pause for a minute and see if anyone who's still with us tonight would like to submit comments.  I don't see that any new participants have joined.  So, if you would like to submit comments, feel free to send a chat to "comments", raise your hand in zoom with that raise hand button or if you're on the phone, press * 9.  And give me just a minute here. 
To decide whether to submit comments.  If there are none, I think we will go ahead and take one more break and then we'll check in at the end of that break and close out the meeting just a few minutes before 8:00 o'clock.
So, let me check if see if we have any hands raised or comments submitted through the chat? 
>> Laura:  Sarah, this is Laura and we do not have any comments in the chat. 
>>>:  This is Rob and I do not see any hands raised. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Thank you both so much.  Let's go ahead and take one final break.  We will be back about 7:54 local time to just make one last check for comments and then close out the meeting.  Thanks everyone. 
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>> Sarah Bahrman:  Okay.  Welcome back everybody.  thanks for joining us.
And i don't see any additional hands raised.  So, I'm going to take a minute and see if there's any final comments, please feel free to send them by chat or raise your hand.  Otherwise, we'll move to closing and next steps.  Laura, received anything in the chat? 
>> Laura:  Sarah, I have not. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Okay.  Thank you.  And Rob, any last show of hands? 
>>>:  Sarah, I do not see any hands at this time. 
>> Sarah Bahrman:  Great.  Thank you both.  Thanks everyone for joining us this evening.  Just wanted today go over a cup couple of quick next steps.  EPA will post a transcript from this meeting as well as last night's meeting for the presentation and comments received to the docket online.  And we'll be reviewing and considering all comments that we received in either of these public meetings as well as online through the docket prior to issuing a final decision.
Following that review, we could decide to approve the variance and issue it.  We could make some modification and approve it or we could deny Denver's request for variance based on comments received.  Next slide, please.
I know everyone's time is precious so again I want to thank you for joining.  The comment deadline for online submission is tomorrow, October 7.  Can you submit written comments regulations.gov.  You can email me.  My email address is on the screen.  Thank you so much for joining.  We appreciate the comments that we've received.  I know we didn't get any last night but last night's meeting and through the docket we have received some so I appreciate that.  And wish you all a good night.  Take care.
>> Laura:  Thank you, Sarah.