::::::::::Fuck civility. I don't believe in civility above all else for one second. I believe in effective above all else. Are you being effective? Do your posts change his behavior for the better. Are they likely to? How. Be realistic. If you convince me, I'll join you, because as I said, I think he should get the hell out. You're not helping achieve that, and you might be fucking it up. -

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