Dave thanks Those guys have greater editing skills than me and I see you nailed a tag I had no idea such a tag existed Also my attempts to insert Amish into the YEC article failed My attempts to discuss the physics of time asymmetry anywhere these guys edit have also failed I get gang banged If one looks to money motivation any chance these guys are part of a textbook lobby group Anything that might change textbook content cost publishers a lot of money and meatpuppets would be far cheaper