governments They are openly POVed but I guess that they could neutralize each other if we put them together Anyway I ll keep searching Thanks Vassyana for your effort It s helping us all to concentrate on content more than editors which is no small achievement if we look at our history in the talk page Thanks Vassyana I hope that you will help us to reach the long elusive consensus I agree however in that it will still be necessary to make an informed but ultimately personal decision between possibilities for inclusion unless we go for a formal bibliometric approach I suspect that in the end we may need to seek external help to decide whether some details are to be included But if we have a process which can lead to a decision that s a definite improvement Thanks again for taking an interest Can I ask a couple of questions Is there a reason why the same source has been listed three times Once by me and subsequently twice by Imalbornoz See