Casualty Count Needs Updating CBS News Tucson Six people are dead and 13 wounded after a gunman opened fire at a public meeting held by Representative Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson Arizona 68 5 76 19 Terrorism Doesn t this fit the accepted definiton of a terrorist act If so it should also be put under terrorism in the United States 174 101 121 203 I would hold off until we know more about the motivation The new york times gives a description of the shooter There is no widely agreed upon definition of terrorism Let s hold off on that for now until we get a number of news organizations calling it that Talk It might but it s too soon to say We don t know the motivations of the shooter though I can t help but wonder if it s a tea party sympathizer taking to those second amendment remedies I was thinking about whether or not it belongs on List of events named massacres but it s too soon to say Just read this It seems political with the targeting of all her aides bear in mind it does nt have to be by an organised group per Lone wolf terrorism emphasis on terrorism Terrorism would seem to be a loaded term to add to any article Original research at this point to call the shootings terrorism since law enforcement government and the press have so far not called it that The new york times made it clear the motives were uncertain in The shootings raised questions about potential political motives italic added 173 180 214 13 Categories I think that Mass murders in 2011 and Assassination attempts in 2011 cats should be removed since we don t know the actual number of dead for sure yet and until more about the motivation is known we do not know that this was an assassination or assassination attempt There has to be more conservative categories we can use until we know all the facts Is there a shootings in 2011 category talk Murder is being misused Technically it is a BLP violation Killings yes Murder is a legal term Let s be precise Murder The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another Nidhiki My issue was more with the use of it being mass murder since that s a bit unclear especially when the number dead isn t concretely known talk I went ahead and removed Category Assassination attempts and Category Mass murder in 2011 per the above talk It is amazing to me that anyone here would debate this was not a mass murder or even a murder Premeditation is not required for murder murder is simply the unlawful killing of a human being Can anyone to argue the killing was lawful and if six killings isn t mass murder then what number is See the present AP coverage of the shootings They call it in an attempted assassination Good enough to include the catego