To Clarify I just re read some of my replies to you BB and in my usual manner i think they may have come across as rude this was not my intention and i just thought i would say without trying to sound condescending imo your questions are well thought out and reasoned I have not answered your questions about whether I think Otis would have passed peer review for the simple fact that this would be my opinion As difficult as it maybe to believe I try to keep to what is cited by others My personal opinion or background means nothing in WIKI and this is how it should be