Discussion moved from Wikipedia talk WikiProject Doctor Who I know you re all probably sick to your back teeth of hearing about it but considering how we have just changed the name of the 1996 television film to Doctor Who 1996 in my personal opinion an infinitely better name why not try to resolve the seemingly never ending debate of whether it is 100 000 BC or An Unearthly Child Talk 100 000 BC Doctor Who 19 02 9th January 2006 GMT Okay can we also try to bring peace to the Middle East and Northern Ireland bring harmony between all religions sort out whether the UK is an international or European country and all those other things that have been fiercely argued a lot I hate to say it but I think the debate is about to get a second wind seeing as the upcoming American DVD release The Beginning dubs the story An Unearthly Child and also uses the Edge of Destruction name for the Inside the Spaceship two parter I think you re right and that we should think about people less familiar with the original series after all a lot of people who have only watches the Ninth and Tenth Doctors in action will snap up the boxset to learn more about Doctor Who Calling it An Unearthly Child will not only help these newbies but also seeth the feelings of quite a lot of Whovians I know As well as this at least half of the sources I have seen official or otherwise call it An Unearthly Child 20 39 9 January 2006 The current opener to the article and the redirects handle the requirements anyway Fandom has long been deeply divided and I don t think some notion of appeasing one wing of the debate should direct where the Wikipedia page is located I agree As long as the proper redirects are in place and the article acknowledges the alternate titles I think we re good This isn t quite the same situation we had with the TV movie when an off the cuff remark by the producer calling it Enemy Within came to be seen as somehow official And the Doctor Who Information Network here in Canada apparently uses a different title altogether that was mentioned in a CBC profile of the series made to tie in with the Eccleston season I forget the name that was used The CBC profile I think used Out of the Ashes which apparently came from a misreading of Shannon Patrick Sullivan s webpage As for 100 000 BC vs An Unearthly Child I agree that the redirects and article opening make the issue less pressing but I also think that the title used in the DVD release which isn t just in the US but UK as well lends a bit more weight to the An Unearthly Child argument However if we do reconsider the page s location I agree that it shouldn t be about appeasing one group or another but what s best for the article talk contribs The DVD releases seal it for me these should both be at their DVD titles with the others being redirects That s a good point to raise I personally believe that it should be An Unearthly Child but then it s not up to me and I fully understand where Josiah is coming from Why don t we settle this once and for all a democratic vote where Whovians like ourselves vote for one title or the other Anyone else agree have another idea 16 18 11 January 2006 I ll put my vote in as An Unearthly Child also It s been said before but I ll say it again The title of the serial is 100 000 BC The title of the first episode is An Unearthly Child The fact that BBC Enterprises releases the DVD as An Unearthly Child is a matter of marketing not historicity and neither here nor there The real reason the serial was called An Unearthly Child to begin with was because of a mistake by the Radio Times AUC redirects to the right page and there s no confusion I d rather rename The Daleks to The Mutants rather than change 100 000 BC to that talk contribs 16 39 11 January 2006