13 November 2012 UTC Yikes I did say to cyberpower that I would try to close the discussion but I did warn him that I had other things on and it might be a while before I got round to it Please don t hold out for me I ve gone and submitted an ArbCom candidacy nomination which is currently taking up all my time Dennis is an excellent admin appears uninvolved and glancing at Apteva s comments they look like they re well considered I doubt I ll find a different consensus TT talk 12 13