hi wolf this is the guy from the Internet Television page etc With all due respect I read your reply and and the other ones I just can barley reply to all these wiki pages etc not even sure if I m doing it correctly etc wiki kinda blows grin its way too complicated I have a word pad doc on my HD that I wrote explaining my Internet TV rise on the net with each step documented and complete with a fast link to the actual source material etc Newspaper articles story the Annenberg school of communications at USC in calif did on me in 2003 a chapter in a book dedicated to me etc and my stations etc each step of mine documented with a link to the Source NOT just me saying it there are also links to my Old websites during that period from the actual Internet website archive did anyone even READ and check these links just HOW Official does this source materiel have to be they are some VERY credible sources etc go look its not just me saying all this its the newspapers of the towns and the annenberg communications school at USC and the fact that the Who is data for DaytonaBeach Live com pre dates anyone else claiming to have done Internet TV etc that I know of is nt that KIND OF Official etc I actually made history by starting that TV station I think the info should be entered into the wiki and LOCKED until someone else can prove an earlier date and BUMP my slot just Like I do with the guy from greece in 2005 I was here before him etc and I can Prove it wiki just will NOT check my sources are VERY credible and in english grin its a simple VERIFIABLE fact by newspapers and the annenberg etc go check the LINKS I put in most of them are my old websites but two of them are My claims to fame along with the who is data link for DaytonaBeach Live com chapter 8 in this book Darknet is also all about ME is THAT worth anything grin we need someone that can assemble all this info into a few paragraphs with all the correct links to prove everything which I have provided etc and then enter it into the HISTORY section of that page if the wiki does not put the history info in then the wiki is incomplete and worthless as a history check tool and will be bypassed by internet users that will use a more credible and accurate source themselves instead of the wiki etc if the wiki is not correct or incomplete etc the who is data says I started in 2000 annenberg says I was rockin HARD in Daytona in 2003 daytona beach s own newspaper story from 2002 and chapter 8 in the book Darknet are both all about me and DaytonaBeach Live I included the actual links to the articles themselves I forgot the Darknet reference etc HOW much more OFFICIAL and credible does the freakin wiki require etc the links to the source material is all there and as credible as it gets I AM TheRaven and I was doin IT down in Daytona Beach in 2000 to 2008 and CONTINUE to operate as well its just a simple fact does wiki deny this or NOT want to record and report the correct history of Internet TV what say ye to this