wikipedia isn t perfect but its model is sound Can I suggest that you two guys read Professor John Naughton s excellent article in THE OBSERVER of 10 08 14 If it helps you understand it I can get it translated into Belgian French or Walloon and into Dutch I use both Wikipedia and ODNB and both are equally intransigent unwilling or refusing to change one s views or to agree about something synonyms uncompromising inflexible unbending unyielding diehard unshakable unwavering resolute rigid unaccommodating uncooperative stubborn obstinate obdurate pigheaded single minded iron willed stiff necked intransigeant onverzettelijk in French Dutch I CAN DEBATE THE SHORTCOMINGS OF WIKIPEDIA UNTIL AS WE SAY IN COLLOQUIAL ENGLISH THE COWS COME HOME BUT THERE IS NO COMPLETE AGREEMENT ANYWHERE IN THE ACADEMIC WORLD AS TO WHO EXACTLY CONSTITUTED THE BLOOMSBURY GROUP SO ALL THE MEMBERS ARE A MATTER OF OPINION AND NOT FACT GUYS WHAT IS CERTAIN IS THAT A SIGNIFICANT PROPORTION OF MALE MEMBERS WERE CAMBRIDGE APOSTLES Understand the above points and we may have the basis for further discussion Otherwise 2 27 131 74