versud On Talk Abecedare DAB has said that I wrongly claim for verse while Monier Williams gives DAB is right MW forgot to mention but it is mentioned 14 times in Rgveda 1 164 39 2 3 7 5 6 5 5 27 4 5 64 2 5 64 4 6 16 47 8 27 1 8 27 5 9 73 5 10 105 8 10 165 5 10 71 11 thelast being In comparison in its all its variations occurs only 9 times If I know primary sources do not charge me of OR it will be dishonest to apply rules just to prove your point I may cite many secondary sources too eg Sayana or Wilson who have duly translated MW accomplished a great work but there are some lapses for which DAB should not blame me for ignorance Vinay Jha