Self aggrandizing POV The phrase self aggrandizing has been removed several times for two reasons It s WP POV POV It s redundant apparently because it s made clear by the rest of the article I m not sure either of these reasons are valid What POV is the self aggrandizing phrase pushing It doesn t seem to be something either the GNAA s supporters or detractors would disagree with making it unclear whether or not it s POV at all It seems to simply be an indisputable fact evidenced by among many other things the article itself as well as the GNAA s website Also if the statement is not POV it can t be said to be inappropriately unbalancing the article by including the POV of one side and not the other that the GNAA are a self aggrandizing group is a simple fact Another reason given for the phrase s removal was that it was redundant That might be the case but isn t redundancy not only acceptable but desired in the first paragraph of an article which is generally supposed to act as a summary I m really not sure why this phrase is causing so much controversy