welfare policies are programs that use a collective wallet that is applied by judgement this is socialism even in your own words it is called a mixed economy a non centralist planned economy with fixed wages is achived through democratised economy something advocated by all modern socialists and most early socialists just not by the traditionally authoritarian and corrupt russia labour unions are an element of this a small measure of planned economy with fixed wages by agreement i will not have wikipedia give false information because you are not aware of what socialism means while being completely pent on pushing your propogandised POV I know it s been demonised and the hatred of it is popularised in this one quirky country but why is it so difficult for americans to even understand what is just a natural part of europe Lygophile has spoken