OK thanks I looked at the first red link in the template and see that it is a deleted article so I can see how that would be helpful That said this may be a bit of a special case given how much has been deleted and rev deled I hope this won t dissuade you form working on another CCI In fact I indirectly referred to you in this thread If several of us are working together it might be fun and there will be some admins to help with deleted material Talk