Hi Umeboshi Thanks but I think I m just going to let this topic go as far as Wikipedia is concerned It is too stressful to do battle with some of these characters and I don t really know my way around the various political systems If you are interested in re posting and pursuing the topic I think that would be great I ve got to release it I had steam coming out of my ears last night And at this advanced age I ve reached that s not too good Thanks again and I hope you are having a very nice day today Best wishes