Template parameters Defiantly date is the way to go The templates can be made temporarily to support both and I have a technique for seguing from one to the other Historically there was a mish mash and even I at that time working with them on a daily basis couldn t always remember which was which Also SmackBot a can add date if I set it up properly It used to add or remove as appropriate well I think there are still a few cases where it removes Farmbrough 13 43 1 June 2007 GMT P S I work by evolution run the Bot and see what s not been fixed sharpen up the reg exes and repeat with the occaisional re factor so I will catch most things in time Farmbrough 13 43 1 June 2007 GMT