UTC Shorne sorry to break it to you but referring to the Holodomor and the famines in Russia in general as a holocaust does not diminish the holocaust against the Jews Unless of course you wish to say that eliminating the social class of peasants is in some way trivial and hence it would trivialize the killing of the Jews as an ethnic group by association Calling the holodomor and the related events a holocaust rather puts those events in the right perspective there WAS both CALLOUS and deliberate killing of the undesired class during the holodomor that was NOT principally ANY different from the shoa Have a look at Hannah Arendt s writings and you will see what I mean However from your comments regarding the alleged bias against left wing pov s here I assume that you are in fact somewhat of a Soviet apologist Since I am myself a social democrat I can t say that there is any kind of bias against left wing POV s here Rather there seems to be a fortunate tendency towards limiting both right wing and left wing extremism Or in other words wikipedia seems to have adopted a cultural most befitting to an open society and rather hostile towards totalitarian ideas How fortunate 05 13 17 September 2005