Zeq It is completely obvious that this is not a Crusader ruin I believe Doron 100 on this for five reasons 1 Doron s evidence is persuasive and you provided none at all 2 Crusader ruins don t look anything like that Arab village ruins look like that 3 I have several other pictures of the ruins of Suba and they look just like this One is here one is in a book 4 The crusader fortress of Belmont was at the same site as the Arab village and remnants can be seen but the Arab village was built around them and that s what most of the visible ruins are Or do you want us to believe there was no Arab village there at all 5 Your comments make it hard to take you seriously First you make a claim something about Ibrahim but your link says only Ibrahim Pasha s army attacks Jewish settlers of Hebron Palestine Second you don t seem to realise that Zobah in the Bible is the name of a Aramean kingdom or its capital not a village near Jerusalem It was supposed to be in the north somewhere talk