Thanx for ur help Doc I came yest to add a few things well voila P Jeepers mutter mutter mutter I wrote someone w original pix of Kyle hopefully they can provide an appropriate picture I do know that there are limits to freedom of speech esp cly in the private sector i e If I tell my boss that I love Pres Smith he fires me cause he voted for Pres Jones I have no case That s sorta a red herring but I m a slow learner times