C mon don t capitulate just yet It s all about quality we need a good fight to establish that Your challenges are well taken Check the last entry at the bottom of the page from there s a refernec to a book on Arab Christians obviously Wikipedia is not yet complete but we can get there I am sure someone will provide you with a quote from an Ottoman text using the term Cradle of Humanity Just give it some time 00 16 05 Feb 2004 EST