Hi Ken McRitchie I agree with most of your post but not the last comment At first I thought the same myself but I get the point now I was looking at the word in its loose meaning but outside of that I would agree this AtG s objection is based on a valid argument AndytheGrump Thanks for clarifying that and apologies for calling it a bit ridiculous earlier I don t think it is but it needs some thought I hope you continue to input and help us find an appropriate solution I m off away from the computer now Cheers talk