31 May 2004 UTC I definitely will collect factual statistic data before proposing changes in naming It s why I only will most probably propose to replace Rus with Rus despite I m really sure that former is much more frequently used I have to check this for sure As for Rus and Rosja you mix up two different issues and this mix adds mess to the subject a whether or not actions of North Russian rulers may be considered as reunification of Rus and b evolution of sounding of word Rus These a and b are not equal I will present more facts on these issues and the discussion of course will be continued Frankly I m a bit concerned that instead of commenting prepositions that I suppose near to be facts you are discussing where these facts lead Let s first collect facts and than we ll think which NPOV conclusions can be made What do you think about this 18 27