Unrelated comment a couple of questions and advice Since we re discussing interesting things to note I have an interesting question open for anyone not just Groupuscle If you go to a noticeboard and the consensus is against you will you agree that it is evidence in favor of the position that the articles aren t biased Or will your opinion continue to be that the articles are POV In terms of trying to reach a rational conclusion it s good to answer these questions for yourself beforehand Feel free to ignore this of course or to keep the answers to yourself although I m also genuinely curious about your answers On the same token even if you don t escalate I m always happy to discuss any of my edits or the articles more generally with you or anyone else I am always open to being convinced by sufficient evidence