I have had run ins with Viriditas before none about issues of substance but more of what you have seen here I am very disappointed to see you leave Again you are one of the most reasonable WP editors I have seen on this article I have a daytime job too and the policing of the MRM page is such a disgrace that I understand your motives to abandon it I am considering creating a men s rights page at Scholarpedia or Citizenium If I do I will leave a message for you here to invite you to contribute Best of luck