Many thanks Tony for your prompt reply I have sent another message to Victor and hope he will respond on the Buddhism talk page I actually think it is down to him to make a move as he must feel strongly if he keeps unilaterally reverting the page back However one is a lonely number so maybe he feels unsupported which is perhaps where we come in I will think over what my concerns might be although I did enumerate a few to Victor in my second msg in a nudge and wink kind of way rather than stating them too overtly I dearly wish that genuine consensus can emerge kind regards Peter morrell