well that was a more pleasant discussion now i do nt know the current state but i had tred to move the article from user josheastman JO to JOshEastmanENT i did but then i believe it got deleted i tryed to repost the template so i can add the references but i m not sure now because i have so many windows open and i m not sure what is current now i give you permission to help me not vandilize something i spent hours putting together a proffessional article wiki is intended to have users hel enhance articles so do a f ing search and see for yourself if you can contribute as opposed to deleting a legitamate article cmon now