I m out of here I am withdrawing from editing this article For one thing the article needs more NPOV work than I could possibly do even if there were no other editors to discuss things with More importantly the appearance would be too strong that I am arguing the case or pushing the POV of creationists which I am not instead of the case of Wikipedia NPOV policy which I am Please note that my personal beliefs have little to do with the creationists described here I would typecast them as liars and swindlers Please deal fairly with the problems I have mentioned Editors should be interested in building an encyclopedia not in re enacting in Wikipedia a battle being fought outside of it It would be good to see the many infractions of WP NPOV and its corollaries addressed Perhaps I ll be back to see if I can help reach a consensus regarding the points I ve already raised talk