1 December 2010 UTC The current rules are he was notable when he was a Turkish citizen and he received and award notability due to his roots hence need to be mentioned in the opening You made the Bundesliga remark yourself I don t see where I didn t want anyone to comment on this perhaps you were reading someone else as if it s me Current rules aren t dubious in fact very clear This issue is settled according to the WP rules but if you would like to go on with it please do I would like to find out how Mesut Ozil wasn t notable as a professional Bundesliga player until 2007 or the fact that he received a reputable award related to his roots does not contribute anything at all to his notability Thank you 02 34