Silesians Andrew I have not made any comments out of a desire to provoke you I have been editing this article out of a desire to ensure it meets the standards and conventions of the English Wikipedia I am sorry you had a negative experience with the German Wikipedia but that is a separate project from this English project Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle of the English Wikipedia I advise you to give editors a chance instead of assuming the worst I inquired about Silesian Polish because Silesians are sometimes considered a separate ethnic group I am not sure what you mean by reverting the article upside down my editing has been done to ensure that its formatting and style is consistent with other biographical articles As I do not anticipate being able to copy edit the article further I am removing it from my watchlist Good luck with the article Olessi Thanks for you comments and in fact fruitful discussion You are right that the work of a person is most important However there are much present and past propaganda which destroy the peace If only some people would show objectivity and patience as you did it could be clear up To mention nationality is however important since exceptional individuals inspire new generation of a nation Unfortunately nations or ethnic groups will still exist I have to hope for peaceful coexistence of them and fair competition Seems to me that competition has to exit too best if for fun only I am conscious that English and German Wikipedias are separate projects but you see when I approach German Wiki Dzierzon article the Polish relevant article was attacked by some German Silesian Polish guy It cost me more then here on En Wiki to settle the Pl article well So sorry if you did feel bad about my attitude possibly I explained more my excitement With Silesian is in short like this Originally they were Slavic tribe spoke Polish as I mentioned For some 300 to 500 hundred years there were under German governments They had bad time as you possibly can imagine Many of them married with German and were are of course confused who they are You know the pressure on east of resilient nation and of course Polish German conflicts continued Finally in 1945 Poland returned and become new problem for some of the natives Even those who honestly considered himself Polish Silesians at the end of war could be persecuted There in Poland was complete disorder Soviets and Communists arrived most of them real simpletons any way National government just pro soviet mafia was mostly occupied with fight against democratic opposition Polish borders were shifted We lost some 20 of our area and millions of people from east territories moved to present west Poland You can imagine that most of them were not intellectuals at all some of them completely simple people They spoke different Polish dialect also On top of this in the post war pro soviet atmosphere criminals found good playground Well I do not know if you are familiar with criminal minds unfortunately I am This is like gangrene on fresh wound literally Thus many of the native Silesian could be robber in Poland which they wanted so much I believe that in such conditions many simpletons could use the opportunity accusing natives to be Germans Now the present time some of the falsely accused people remember the tragic experiences and want rehabilitation and apology they could be absolutely right However there are many Germans who want their property back and some just using opportunity to stir in internal Polish affairs despite the final border agreement between Poland and Germany signed on 14 November 1990 and governments effort to improve relations Finaly I have to say I beleave that Polish are hospitable and very often na ve Not many realize that politic need caution Those who realize that have a hard time to wake up the na ves Some procentage remember lectures of history and objectively too many Germans are toublemakers I am also convinced there exists something like national character You can have obviously you own opinion let me have my own Returning to Silesians it is something close to squaring the circle I wish the true Silesian all the best but I do not want Fith Column on Polish terytory in addition Sorry if I used posibly ofencive reverting the article upside down that was in the heat of the battle wich I still have with Ge Wiki They just arogantly do not answer if they do not like and refuse mediatior at any imaginative pretext That sucks Sorry and thanks again Feel free to contact me any time you need Best regards Andrew 02 23 9 December