Is the hypothesis in such a sorry state that references have to be repeated See the reference to Evans and McConvell And apart from Hale s venom is there any chance of evidence ever being presented on this page Just saying that one has used the gasp comparative method isn t particularly convincing And these hundreds of cognates where are they The mainstream appears to consist of Evans McConvell and Bowern more or less with Nobody doing the cleanup or mostly clicking the undo link Even Lyle Campbell who should be pretty dispassionate about the subject calls for much more information and research and assigns Pama Nyuangan the label of family status not confirmed And please don t let poor Medeis do all the rollup He s just a camp follower Please present something convincing and most of all answer the question whether Hale committed the sins of glottochronology and mass comparison Dubbing the last one lexicostatistics doesn t make it any more respectable