Re Patron Saints of Places I noticed on the Talk page two separate comments going back a few years that the page would be more user friendly if the listing was according to Place Accordingly I ve been trying to re sort the entries towards that end I ve been making the changes in what I hope are manageable bits partly because it s very time consuming and I don t want to lose anything particularly the citations and partly because I ve been waiting for someone to object I take it from your welcomed feedback that I may proceed As far as the other patron articles In general since an article on any individual saint would indicate their various areas of patronage geographic and otherwise I think the over all listings would be better grouped by topic However those pages seem somewhat less pressing because at least they are separated alphabetically whereas I found the Places page a bit confusing particularly because a number of the historical places are now known as something else I am going to see if I can find some images as well unless there is a rule against images and lists On another note I was looking for a clean up listing for the Saints portal but the one I found dates back to 3 12 10 Is there a more current one somewhere I noticed your comment on the WT X talk page and I would be interested in helping out a bit on Advent Christmas content if you like appreciate the input Mannanan51