22 November 2011 UTC What evidence is there for any concepts Again none of this debate really matters in the absence of sources What specific sources support specific TCM concepts What sources support cold herbs having antibiotic or anti inflammatory properties What sources support a heat pattern being inflammation aside from the trivial observation that inflamed areas are warm Without sources these abstract discussions are pretty pointless If a reliable source echoes your assertion for me the only real question becomes how to summarize it The assertion that TCM is speaking a different language rather than simply right by accident is also an assertion that requires a source All prescientific medicine usually manages to be correct about certain herbs be they emetics analgesics laxatives or soporifics but that doesn t validate the medical system And if we re debating the modern medical model when modern medicine was introduced to China I believe that like all nations they experienced a considerable boom in longevity a drop in infectious diseases and a much higher rate of survival out of childhood Mao brought back TCM for political reasons not because it was as effective as vaccinations surgery and drugs But again to be integrated into the page sources are required t c Wikipedia s rules simple complex 22 48