I don t want to get involved with this sort of nonsense so I ll just comment i e let off steam quietly here Sorry if it s the wrong place For the record I did not do anything like refuse to believe what Amaltheus said about the summary box is about the summary box I came late to the discussion and tried to act as a mediator I told Amaltheus that it all seemed to have got sidetracked into personal matters and apparent expressions of hurt feelings and that I therefore found it hard to discern what change s Amaltheus actually wanted to make to the article I suggested that a restatement of the key issue s might be useful Then this sort of tirade Oh well steam vented apologies for abusing your talk page