Well my point was simply the more contemporary angle It is correct that a more contemporary picture does not imply an actual portrait although the way i understand it the fresco of Subiaco is could be an actual portrait but is simply more representative for the actual time itself buildings attire contemporary essence and perception etc However seeing how much effort you Hafspajen put into the article i will agree with your format But just on the side note the picture that you have in your post or that is displayed in the gallery here was not the one i edited and was in favor for they are similar but it was this one Article History from of Guido di Graziano 13th century after 1270 Siena Pinacoteca