Re C J Griffin Correct However your statement is too obvious to lead to something useful Let me remind you that the more loose the criteria for mass killing genocide etc are the more regimes fit these criteria I can for instance develop your idea and claim that almost any totalitarian authoritarian or democratic regime excluding EU countries but including present days USA kills people One way or the another since Valentino restricted himself with mass killing he obviously left beyond the scope the issues of non mass killings as well as the question of the origin of life of cold nuclear fusion of God s omnipotence and many many others