24 July 2009 UTC No I didn t liken you to a dog That s just an expression that means things are going downhill IOW civil fringe POV pushers are being handed concessions and being allowed to do things their own way more and more in spite of recent improvements in the way we re supposed to handle fringe beliefs In this case allowing a one sided POV driven and dubious interpretation of a guideline to be used to violate my userspace That was indeed uncivil and very impolite Bang Done No discussion or request I am shocked and disheartened by these actions by someone I respected That s all Was what I said uncomfortable for you Sure but not incivil You have chosen your agenda and it is not incivil to point out what it is You do it to me all the time without me running to mommy and complaining about incivility When you re getting your way you are very tough and civil Somehow you expect that you can tread on people and just get away with it by calling their comments incivil You really do misuse that card by playing it too often When you become perfect then you can start pointing fingers Keep in mind that you have the dubious honor of being considered one of the most classic and highly skilled cases of a disruptive civil POV pusher As I recall you may have even been the pioneer developer of the technique Your civility covers an agenda that is counterproductive to NPOV by inevitably seeking to wikilawyer stonewall and censure anything negative about chiropractic no matter how well sourced when we re actually supposed to follow the sources That s just wrong Since this is Tim s user page it s probably best that this discussion not continue here or even continue at all since we never get anywhere I just wanted to set the record straight that I certainly wasn t comparing you to a dog I actually do have much higher opinions of you I admire intelligence I just wish it wasn t being used for such a nefarious and and non NPOV purpose as to protect chiropractic s reputation In the real world that is good from your POV chiro advocacy and protectionism but here we follow the sources and let them speak 14 12