15 September 2005 UTC It is essential that the Able Danger debate be carried out in the places where it is relevant It is simply not relevant here If you can find legitimate news sources or counterterrorism analysts who provide a justification for its relevance here then it will be worth considering but right now it has no relevance whatsoever Your speculation about the credibility of the 9 11 Commission on issues not addressed by Able Danger is just pure speculation From someone I might add whose own credibility is very much in question I will continue to delete references to Able Danger until someone establishes their relevance in a meaningful way not through a string of random speculations barely tied together by a thread like the above And again let us please remember that the 9 11 Commission is not the issue here anyway The commission is cited but the pieces of evidence they look at are all pieces of intelligence brought out by other agencies As for the arrest of Iraqis in Germany again if you find evidence or even authoritative speculation tying those arrests to Able Danger we can consider it otherwise it is just a string of increasingly bankrupt attempts at pseudo logic 05 11