1st and 2nd Birkenhead where both established on the same day 24 01 1908 at the YMCA there is a document in the 2nd Birkenhead hut signed by BP that proves this I assume its still there I only left a few years ago Also as mentioned in the article the arrow park jamboree in 1924 was located there becasue the first official groups started in Birkenhead If this is contested I could probably arrange to go and photograph it next time I m back up there