Yes pre embryological dunno about anybody else but wikipedia seem big enough for all of us so i for one am not proposing we go anywhere although I wonder if one day a wiki book dedicated to information for patient s could be good also wonder if a highly formalised future wiki could seriously compete with medical textbooks but that is just pie in the sky thinking btw i too think the mess is fantastic I guess we should all recruit new members I claim Alteripse as my recruit gedday Alteripse still have a long way to catch up with JFDW tho the proposal i ve made is really just an add on suggestion to the good work already done you all