As someone coming to this without a prior ego involvement it seems to me that there may be some underlying issues that need to be resolved Mr Williamson s is it your intention to ask me to remove myself from this discussion 03 33 3 Nov 2004 UTC Almost sounds like it doesn t it He tends to treat people who don t wholeheartedly agree with him like flies unfortunately they just won t go away with a wink from his hand Too bad 04 05 3 Nov 2004 UTC