Thanks I appreciate it and I ll stand by my word re Mathsci Would you like me to provide example diffs I can start with his unmitigated attacks on me in ANI of a few weeks ago where he tried to get me banned because he didn t like the way the R I mediation was going or with diffs from R I pages where he has accused insulted me in any number of ways I don t want to drag you into it if you re not interested but I am tired of his ad hominem approach If not he s opened a wikiquette about me and I ll probably as a matter of self defence be addressing the issue there Ludwigs2