Interestingly we disagree on the part of your assessment of LoveMonkey that starts with on the other hand Curiously I would generally apply that assessment much more to Esoglou than to LoveMonkey You ve probably missed this but neither Phatius nor I have asserted Esoglou is innocent of the charges I haven t looked at your edits in close detail but what I ve seen does look troubling and worth a closer look I expect Phatius has looked more closely and he seems to think there are some issues with Esoglou s conduct It s almost as if we ve jumped past the trial and moved to the sentencing phase where Phatius and I are pleading leniency on the basis of redeeming qualities and extenuating circumstances As for the focus on LoveMonkey and I know you disagree with my view on this my attitude is that if Wikipedia can put up with LoveMonkey it can put up with ten Esoglous