To Baristarim I did not say i am offended to be compared to the Turks i am much aware of all the cultural similarities u mentioned and for thousands more what could somehow offend me is to compare Greece state with Turkey state and this is what i commented on I do not consider the turkish people responsible for what their military and government do And in fact i like all the turkish people i know and i never had any problem with them I know that in Istanbul there many greek orthodox churches perhaps many more than in Athens but there are no greek orthodox people anymore that was my point as for Ocalan i d rather not comment not cause i can t Search for Topal Osman if it helps his grave is on a hill some meters above a greek church