I had forgotten how useful it can be to paste rough unfinished material into a user subpage Also I simply assumed the Kuhner quote was okay instead of doing the digging that you did Once again thanks for correcting my errors I myself am not so interested in writing a bio of Kuhner He seems to be a lousy editor of a second rate web magazine I wrote off Insight several years ago and get my news from wire services network news shows and of course The Washington Times Not to mention The Guardian and a few other UK news sources