I m keeping a neutral stand in the notability debate While I m generally inclined toward inclusion I see good points made by both sides in this area I had the misunderstanding that DRV would resolve the notability issue for the time being but I was mistaken It seems clear that there s a consensus to move back to main space though I see the core of this debate to be values inclusionism vs deletionist censorship vs free speech and gay liberation vs right wing conservatism with procedures and guidelines as a cover