The page was made by Navdeep55 on 20 March 2007 and you Bal537 came on Aug 2008 and edited the text and added that Ramdasias are chamars I came after you and reverted back the false information provided by you You gave link references and I replied to your link references in talk page that you delete and added more link which i reverted back What is the point in deleting Ramdasia Sikh Gotras and adding chamar link to it You also did the same in Jatt and khatirs sections where you projected them too as chamar You say Ramdasia and Ravidasias are same which is false You can goto the most popular Matrimonial websites Both have separate section for Ramdasia and Ravidasia The Ramadsia Gotras are aslo different than Ravidasia Gotras Ramdasia Gotras Nar Badhan Rajju Rattu Heer Ravidasia Gotras chumer Chumber Singhmar Sheemar Jassal Jassy Kainth The thing you are doing is the thing that most Ravidasias do ie pretend to be Ramdasia and then spread false info that both are same This can be see on matrimony websites where for eg kainth and other listed Ravidasia castes people add themselves into Ramdasia section You give references to chamar books and chamar websites and no neutral source that supports your view The Fact Remains that Ramdasia are weavers Julahas whereas Ravidasias are chamars Leather tainers and both are not same at all