Thanks Random I agree that that is a better approach because it lets us de couple the link text from the link But in this case I think the redirects are legitimate and it is good to point into the list via them as they insulate the template against any change in target i e if someone creates an article on an R phrase the redirect can be re targetted If we were linking directly into the list we d be stuffed Bryan if you prefer the tooltip to say Explosive when dry rather than R1 Explosive when dry you could change from 2 1 2 to 2 1 2 Hesperian