24 December 2008 UTC Perhaps for not the first time I find myself in complete agreement with Ottava Caulde is a young editor and in the interests of full disclosure he and I have had run ins in the past over his claiming credit for work that he had not actually done He knew better than me how to play the system He is now an administrator and I will never be an administrator Go figure I bear Caulde no ill will he learned how to play the system and I didn t bother to take the same trouble Maybe that s why there s a unhealthy preponderance of kiddie admins Fatuorum 00 44