2 July 2012 UTC Yes and no Yes because well it s a technical decision made by the developers they change the config files at the direction of their bosses the userrights change In theory it is a decision we could make without consulting the community In practise look I ve been an editor for 6 years now most of those as just an editor I ve been contracted here for I think 9 months and change I know how silly a decision that d be both for practical reasons people would get totally up in arms about it and for good reason and ethical ones we owe a duty to involve editors in decisionmaking wherever we can because we re a bottom up organisation not a top down one So generally speaking I think editors should be able to disagree and I think editors should at least be asked their opinion before a change is made That s what I believe and that s why I held that RfC That s also why arguing with me is likely to be futile Not because this is a WMF decision not because this is my staff account but because we asked people what they want and they said give this to rollbackers too I believe this was a perfectly valid expression of the community s opinion on the subject and that it s much more applicable than the 2008 RfC which was held when the community was in a much different state addressing an in some respects radically different question and not explicitly prohibiting these actions So I m not going to be persuaded by appeals to that and it s not me you should be looking to persuade if you want the situation to change as said hold your own If you don t want to do that I m stuck in a situation hired as a person to ensure the community was listened to where the only way out is to ignore the opinions of those editors who spoke up when presented with the opportunity And I m not going to do that 13 59