Thanks for the reply The references are all there if you check ref 24 it s a compression of those references Ok let s remove the healer clause from the first sentence It s repeated in the second one anyway And what is your opinion about the or rabbi parenthesis after teacher The reason I added this was because I found a qualifying footnote which I thought would be useful for the lead but only if people read footnotes when they re in leads I ll quote it below or rabbi ref Bernard J Lee Paulist Press 1988 page 119 120 However both Jewish and Christian scholars have advised us not to import a later meaning of rabbi into Jesus time Jewish scholar Joseph Klausner says that in Jesus milieu rabbi was not a fixed title and was used in current speech as a unofficial indication of honor Thus it may or may not have specifically named a teacher of honor Martin Hengel takes this position too and adds that probably by the time John s Gospel is written rabbi is a more official designation of a teacher and soon it designates an ordained teacher ref