Hey I only just found this page thanks for the welcome and Ronz I do appreciate your time and also understand the angle you are presenting so well I perceive the juxtaposition of different viewpoints and am trying to present an angle that I sense is lacking I hope I m not coming across as it s only this it s only this because that to me is entirely unhelpful but as I m addressing what I perceive to be a leaning in the other direction my weight on the necessary changes as I perceive may be somewhat greater than what I envisage the outcome should be