It s not a matter of what I believe My belief has nothing to do with it There were no reliable independent sources references indicating that they met any of the 12 points set fourth If they did in fact meet s 4 and 5 where are the sources demonstrating it Just you stating that they do is not an independent relaiable source And if the noms had been left open long enough I think the consensus would have agreed Wikipedia is not the Hamster pedia If you re conficent that they were notable you should have made a good faith argument in favor of keeping the article not shutting everything down without any scrutiny