the Ad Hominem s never end with you do they I asked for examples and you have failed to give me any appart for your opinon that they violate these rules You opinion is not enough And I did say for you to just nominate them for deletion So if your case is so strong propose them for deletion because we are not going to agree and that s the only way your going to win this Is it that you not have the courage of your convictions or are you just not man enough to take a chance with possible defeat