STOP DELETING MY ADDITION You Muboshgu Mephistophelian say Please do not use talk pages for general discussion of the topic They are for discussion related to improving the article They are not to be used as a forum or chat If you continue to use talk pages as you do you may be blocked from editing You are using the talk page to push a POV rather than addressing the article in a constructive manner Please stop I AM NOT generally discussing a topic I AM NOT chatting I AM NOT pushing a P O V If you do not understand basic English grammar you have no business telling me anything FACT commas are used in this context to separate a list a series of related clauses Grammar is not a matter of a general discussion or chatting or a point of view It is a technically precise set of rules and in this case a set of rules that demonstrate that the foundation of the issue is a fraud THIS IS NOT OPINION IT IS FACT IT IS RELEVANT TO THE ARTICLE IT IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE ARTICLE I AM TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING THE ARTICLE BY CLARIFYING THE FOUNDATION ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF ENGLISH GRAMMAR AS ANY LITERATE PERSON CAN SEE AND I AM TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE RELEVANT AND FOUNDATIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL CLAUSE FROM TALK GUIDELINES why don t you review them There is reasonable allowance for speculation suggestion and personal knowledge on talk pages with a view to prompting further investigation make the extra effort so that other people understand you Being friendly is a great help It is always a good idea to explain your views it is less helpful for you to voice an opinion on something and not explain why you hold it Article talk pages should be used to discuss ways to improve an article Deal with facts The talk page can be used to park material removed from the article due to verification or other concerns while references are sought or concerns discussed The talk page is particularly useful to talk about edits New proposals for the article can be put forward for discussion by other editors if you wish Do not threaten people For example having them banned for disagreeing with you removing others comments is sometimes allowed But you should stop if there is any objection As I previously posted here THE ARTICLE SHOULD BE IMPROVED by making it clear in the opening statement that the entire issue is a fraud upon the public since there is no natural born citizen requirement that is applicable today That is fundamental to an informative relevant foundation to the article not a matter of opinion and a matter of grammatical fact If I say No animal except a mouse or a rat at the time I give the signal shall be captured then I am saying only mice and rats shall be captured AT THE TIME I GIVE THE SIGNAL My order has no validity at any other point in time Similarly the requirement for natural born citizen only applied AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONSTITUTION It does not apply today and the following clause should be part of the article since it is the clause at the foundation of the issue in the article No person except a natural born Citizen or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States 209 112 188 15