Sorry mcd00b but the debate isn t even and fair because the Genesis side has the name without consensus per last rfc and it isn t stable because i m here asking for an rfc and ask about once a year as do others and with their posts being censored and deleted then it clearly isn t even and fair sergecross that s the whole point there doesn t need to be a new approach or viewpoint presented peoples minds can change and consensus can change which is why having an rfc would be worth while 80 192 85 232