9 February 2007 UTC Very conservative unless the subject is a crank I don t know what website you are trying to point me to I am not frustrated by rules but baffled by them particularly when people repeat acronyms like mantras see GR TRY and read XP HRT very carefully It is gobbledegook designed to confused in order to impose a certain editorial agenda This is what Slim Virgin and others are trying to do create a smokescreen 23 45