27 November 2008 UTC Relata Refero was also a problem in the template matter Punishment is not the issue ever The edit summaries were inaccurate use of Wikipedia jargon so I hope to see am improvement there Irpen is an experienced editor so should only be citing policies essays when they apply precisely The imprecision may impress others but my comments were exactly because we have to keep the summaries on difficult pages very accurate and fair 09 46