o o I m glaring at you which is like all I d want to do really but seriously this can t go on forever you ve got to ask for a bit of help or something consensus is clear and although I am in the right I m not going to be an asshole and take you to ANI because you are one of the most brilliant editors on the ISS talkpage for discussing things Just because those two what does reg foreman say all the time just because they don t know what consensus is doesn t mean you can t count They set such a bad example that it confuses everyone I should do something about that sooner rather than later