Reworking FICT Based on your comments at WT FICT and WT NOTE I think you ve got a good bead on where I think there is an appropriate compromise position that I ve been trying to find for fictional elements for the last year or so we need a level of coverage but not too much and the tenacity to help show why its necessary to go this way something I m not good at While I know we still have to convince editors at NOTE that there s a common sense issue to notability I think starting a userspace draft of a new FICT to hit the points you stated would be beneficial and to make sure it keeps it from being cluttered by too many hands part of the failure of FICT recently in that on the way to getting to a point of consensus too many people got involved I think we need a fixed point of a smaller number then present it and work out improvements from there I want to see if you are interested in this either writing or commenting directly on a userspace draft