Mike O Meara I m not trying to be a jerk about this Ah but you have achieved jerkdom Congratulations Please respect BRD What There are so many things wrong with that statement BRD is not a policy It says so right on WP BRD Rather it is a way of resolving disputes It is also unenforcible There were only 2 people that weighed in on this BRD you and me and we were on opposite sides of the fence so no consensus was reached and there is nothing to respect That BRD was about whether or not Mike O Meara is still notable I think the Wikipedia policy that once a person achieves notability they are notable for all eternity sucks raw eggs But I m abiding by it This dispute is simply about the word former Once a person is no longer doing what made them notable in the first place they should have the word former or something similar attached to their description Which is more truthful Babe Ruth is a baseball player for the New York Yankees Babe Ruth is a former baseball player for the New York Yankees The first entry implies that he still plays for the Yankees The second makes it clear that he once did but doesn t any longer Isn t the first entry ridiculous Abraham Lincoln is president of the United States And isn t this truthful Abraham Lincoln was a president of the United States My compromise is that I m willing to leave the Mike O Meara entry in but I INSIST on phraseology such as former Your compromise is nothing You want to be proven 100 right at all costs I can keep on reverting your reversions for as long as it takes