I think it s time to get a discussion going on any POV issues this article may or may not have Ethan here makes some good points and right now it seems most discussion is happening in the edit summaries of the revert wars that are raging which is not the way to do it Now while my words are being used to support a POV tag on this article I m not entirely convinced it warrants one mostly because I spitefully detest the overuse of tags that has become a plague upon Wikipedia in the past year or two Though there is nothing that says a consensus is required for such a tag only a rationale My view and I m not alone is that the exceedingly controversial nature of the ACLU is almost dismissed by this article which don t seem right Adequate coverage of the controversies is hardly POV in fact doesn t the ACLU wear them as a badge of honor Anyway can we try to figure out if or how we can address the controversial nature of the ACLU better