Can we please have a discussion over the following 1 Do we need to list all of Madonna s awards and chart placements in the intro Wouldn t wikilinks to the awards and achievements section kind of like how it is now like Madonna has received several awards etc be better for the sake of neutrality and no POV 2 The sales data issue continually goes back and forth We get 200 270 275 200 and 75 singles Shouldn t we stick to data that has source links i e the WB press release and the Guinness page 3 Who is deleting the source links from the intro I assume it s the same person who keeps inflating the sales numbers 4 I m not sure madonna ever earned the title Queen of Pop It s not really a title at all not at least an official title It s just a nickname from the fans and the media Moreover is putting that she earned it because of her successful albums controversial image etc a bit too POV Again do we even agree it s a title she earned Isn t it better to say she s known for her successful etc and she is commonly referred to as Queen of Pop sounds a bit more neutral to me 5 referring to her as singer actress pop icon author mother brother sister etc Would just referring to her as an American entertainer be so bad I m fine w it either way i m just curious what other people thing 6 The idea of the intro so I thought was briefly summarizing the article The way it is now it says she catapulted to success she s controversial etc won lots of awards etc and is currently promoting a new album Is this a good enough summary Does it cover all of the basics of madonna Don t flame me a lot of the stuff I put back in is reverts from other authors and I m trying to open a dialogue to make the intro less pov