Stick to the topic eh guys It s not pleasant to try to discredit other editors when you re not getting your own way Have you considered that this needed the opinion of editors not close to the subject to give the English POV to see it the way someone unfamiliar with Chinese writing would and to consider WP AT etc from this perspective The article titles were completely inconsistent with policy and with each other when I got here and incomprehensible to the casual reader I like your pot and kettle style Quality comment right there email