If you are referring to my comment please don t misquote me That s not what I said I said that we don t need to ignore everything just because the Italian government does not recognise the title Simply put if one government grants a title to a person and uses a title to refer to a person it is logical for Wikipedia to consider the title valid It s not POV The Eastern Orthodox Church does not consider Joan of Arc a saint does that make it wrong to call her Saint Joan of Arc If the Emperor of Japan creates the title Duke of New York why wouldn t Wikipedia have an article about that title and its holders As I ve said earlier we do have an article about the Baroness Ryder of Warsaw The King of England created the title Duke of Beaufort which refers to a place in France yet Wikipedia has a an article about the title and articles about the holders of the title So why not an article about the Duke of New York should such a title ever be created