No my evidence isn t complete but certain points were established My issue is you don t go far enough hence that is why I know you didn t understand what you were talking about If you knew what Rotlink did then you would have been in supporting of purging checkusering and removing the source We are on the same side yet you think I am against you That s why I said what I said I don t have the whole picture but Rotlink s task was more nefarious then you give it credit and for the wrong reasons you cite Anyways either way the RFC goes I win as you put it Though for me its never winning or losing I do hope the underlying issue is resolved Its not some Sun Tzu bullshit either you are dealing with someone who honestly doesn t care about the end result because its just different types of winning all possibilities are favorable to me Just some more favorable than others