We seem to have drifted a bit Regarding the question of the name of this article we have Norman saying that to call Wu Mandarin etc languages is inaccurate and misleading and instead referring to them as dialect groups And indeed the usual terms for this topic in the literature are Mandarin dialects and Mandarin dialect group not Mandarin Chinese So we should use one of the two names usually used in our sources not a term for which the primary topic is Standard Chinese I do not favour moving Standard Chinese but rather having Mandarin Chinese redirect to it