The article is over long and the poor definition does nothing to serve this article particularly when the previous content was forked to the definition of terrorism page it only serves to lengthen this article with a poor oversimplification of a complex issue better handled at length in its on article check the first archive for that discussion as for the consensus on other reductions if you feel other editors are lying to you you ll have to check through the other archives Haberstr tends to spam alot so there is quite alot to trawl through