WilCon you are saying Ron lied about this Dr Pielke asked to be put in and provided a quote for me to use Here it is Humans are significantly altering the global climate but in a variety of diverse ways beyond the radiative effect of carbon dioxide The IPCC assessments have been too conservative in recognizing the importance of these human climate forcings as they alter regional and global climate These assessments have also not communicated the inability of the models to accurately forecast the spread of possibilities of future climate The forecasts therefore do not provide any skill in quantifying the impact of different mitigation strategies on the actual climate response that would occur The matter now appears closed I am putting it in RonCram What do you base the accusation on