Re jeks Oh come now I wasn t necessarily referring to you Unless you re admitting that you are a among those that try to scare away content editors in which case you should resign immediately 98 was a pretty all encompassing statement so I naturally assumed that it was an oblique reference to my work What you are probably not aware of however is that I m in around only 4 who badger cajole coax and threaten and encourage young enthusiastic users into doing things right After all they may even be our next generation of admins For your information though and to get you up to date you may wish to read all of it including the most recent postings You ll realise that it s not easy when people won t read the instructions and policies first Although it s sometimes rather exasperating for all concerneactually d most older and established editors and admins are here to help and ironically most new editors are scared away by other new editors Put this way just for a fictional example and as a pure hypothesis if you were a 63 year old professor of English and linguistics a 7 year editor creator of over 60 perfect full sized articles and wrote an article like this almost single handedly and put it in for GA then you get a 14 year old non native speaker pick up the review who then tells you bluntly it s full of grammatical errors and gives you 24 hours to address them how would you react I d be interested to know how you would handle a situation like that I ve got to give you credit you handled my taunting far better than most admins could Now that I look back perhaps I was a little harsh with my original wording I was frustrated because I ve seen situations where a promising new ish editor gets too passionate in the defense of his work gets a 3RR block loses interest then disappears In response to your off topic hypothetical situation something similar has happened to me okay I m not a 63 year old professor but bear with me where an article I had up for GA was reviewed by a guy who had one of those babel templates on his userpage and it said he was EN 2 His review was full of mistakes I think I handled the situation well I asked an experienced reviewer to give a second opinion A bit off topic but unfortunately too many users would bite the reviewer I ve encountered one user whose page advertises that he s wikipedia s foremost generator of featured content and he had no problem insulting or scaring away reviewers but I ve always tried to treat them with respect and avoid bashing them well publicly anyway partially because I used to be heavily involved in the FL process I guess that s why I took excpetion to what I interpreted as you being very heavy handed to a user who seemed genuinely interested in generating featured content It all boils down to the fact that maintenance areas are a magnet to younger new and inexperienced users There are obvious reasons for this but I won t go into detail now Another problem is that with its huge population of near native speakers but of a very different version of English the Indian sub continent also provides a vast number of new and enthusiastic users who also get involved in these areas and often clambour for user rights If you do some checking you d be surprised how many of them are students and even trainers at the CVUA for example and reviewers at GA and FA However this also applies of course to near native speakers from other regions I went through sheer hell on my first couple of GAs because that was in the days when the reviews were done by extremely experienced mature editors one of whom is now a member of Arbcom So you can probably understand why I take some exception at what goes on here with the pass mine and I ll pass yours that really does go on here sometimes without pointing a finger at anyone in particular This is probably the reason why I rarely bother now to submit my articles all of which are of a very high standard to GA or FA For the same reason I don t bother doing any reviews either although I am fully capable of it so you see how these things hurt the system Keep up your good work and as I say to everyone don t hesitate to come to my talk page if ever you need help or advice and if you re sure of your stuff don t he s