19 September 2012 UTC It s probably true that you can find good citations for connecting the theorems to the Liar paradox and you can find other good citations for the view that the Liar is meaningless that s probably the dominant view I d guess You can t put them together to claim that the Goedel theorems might be wrong That s original research by synthesis and this is an excellent example of why this is disallowed because that s a totally invalid inference 04 22