M appar and Mostly Martha Your revert here was meant well but is the culmination of a story which I have experienced too often here with the effect that I m less and less motivated to spend my time editing Wikipedia articles I m writing this to you because you seem to care about classical music and maybe you ll see what I mean when you look at the history 2006 Article Mostly Martha created dedicated to the version by The Crew Cuts Since then the article has been somewhat extended by various editors November 29 2009 Article renamed and edited by SebastianHelm to give more weight to the original aria M appar November 29 2009 Sebastian creates adjusts infrastructure for the article by creating appropriate redirects and links in other articles November 30 2009 Description of 1955 pop version deleted as trivia and immediately thereafter entire article changed to redirect by same editor with the rationale that there wasn t much left in the article November 30 2009 Xqbot fixes double redirect Such changes of the infrastructure the support network of an article makes it less likely that a helpful editor finds what used to be the article about the aria way and even if he or she does so it makes it likely that redirects are misdirected I have complained about this programmatische Verschlimmbesserung at Wikipedia talk Double redirects Many double redirects are good before but to no avail December 1 2009 Michael Bednarek rv wikilink to a REDIRECT to the opera I find it ironic and frustrating that an article that has been around for three years without any problems suddenly gets deleted and all traces of it removed just after someone tries to make it clearer that it is actually not just a pop song but a famous aria I ve just noticed this by accident I didn t realize I still had Michael on my watchlist Since I was involved perhaps I can comment This is a case of a number of normal editing decisions taking place one after another in which different editors were involved Can we cut to the chase here and ask what would like to happen I see Mostly Martha song now points to Martha opera which is clearly wrong Maybe Mostly Martha song should become an article again focussed on the Crew Cut song My revert at Friedrich von Flotow was unremarkable and uncontroversial it removed a wikilink for the aria which is a REDIRECT to the opera which was mentioned and linked in the same sentence following the principles at WP OVERLINK I don t know anything about a group called The Crew Cuts nor about a song Mostly Martha I agree with Kleinzach that the REDIRECT from that song should point the group in which case the wikilink in the group s article should be removed because it would be circular An even better approach would be to turn the current REDIRECT into an article about the song if possible Yes your revert by itself was unremarkable and uncontroversial I didn t mean to single you out but I was just frustrated with the whole story To some extent I also reacted to your edit summary which makes it sound as if I had made such a stupid edit as inserting a link to the redirect Anyway I m glad that we re now focused on the aria so I hope you agree with my renaming of this section to M appar and Mostly Martha Kleinzach asks what I would like to happen I see Mostly Martha song as just another version of the same aria Such versions can easily be included in the article about the aria just as we did for Alabama Song E lucevan le stelle Il dolce suono and many others I therefore would like for us to re