RE I had opps for showing cool cat a big big big flaw with the channel regarding his bot I do nt think you have helped me that much but thanks for the help that you gave I did know how to use my powers I used to use IRC a lot in the past and I knew a lot of the commands relating to what you can do with ops that you ca nt without I just I rarly felt the need to and if I did I asked I also had some references to commands