I ve found the experience of having another of them on this talkpage unpleasant and my experience of DHeyward does not fill me with any confidence that talking with them is a good use of time for either of us The talk page is supposed to be under discretionary sanctions is it really necessary that people go through the whole DR process Have the admins just abandoned it For all I know some of those people are potential good editors and just need to be shown that there s some discipline and order in Wikipedia rather than a yah boo forum where any tactic to exhaust and drive out the opposition is okay provided they don t use four letter words An uninvolved admin should be looking at it every so often and handing out temporarily blocks for any messing around they see