Fair point It took me a while to detail all my actions but I m sure you can understand that I personally prefer to perform the edits and then detail them as it allows greater detailing and better explanation and prevents me running into edit conflicts I ll also add that I had asked for material in this section to be sourced and point out that we shouldn t automatically revert even if there is no discussion on the talk page That ought to be where we start discussing the removal no matter who starts the discussion