I think we all get that Spartaz What I m trying to do is to help Mr T establish a path back That path imo starts with a clear statement to you and Bwilkins acknowledging the inappropriateness of his email and acknowledging the volunteer nature of this venture along the lines of what Bwilkins says above I doubt if BASC will restore talk page access without some such acknowledgement Whether that will work or not is a different question but a helping hand never hurts