What NPOV means to me I see the mistake your talking about over and over on wikipedia and it leads to some ridiculouse results Some people dread listening to the other side of an argument and so they try to present the other side on an automaticity becouse deep down they know that that ai nt what mam done taught them or what ever and it shows in an article There is no solution without drudgery I suspect I fully expect to see an article on Hitler saying critics of the idea that Hitler might have benefitted from relaxing a little say that I don t think there are many critics of the idea that Hitler could have benefitted from relaxing a little I think that a person writing such hates being objective but is trying to make themselves be so on an automaticity so they go Critix of idea x say idea y and be done w it Are we on the same page