Archive of discussion on Wikipedia Requested moves Request was withdraw Suffolk Suffolk England and as a consequence Suffolk disambiguation Suffolk Suffolk County New York has a population of 1 4 million It is twice the area and population of Suffolk England The capital of Massachusetts Boston is located in Suffolk County Massachusetts This county has a population of nearly 700 000 It is smaller than Suffolk England but has a greater population In addition a Google search for Suffolk returns Suffolk County New York Suffolk University Boston and City of Suffolk Virginia as its top three matches Oppose Suffolk County exists as a disambiguation to cope with the two examples mentioned Isn t Suffolk England also a county The description in the article is Suffolk pronounced suffuk is a large low lying county in East Anglia in eastern England Also in Boston Suffolk is more commonly used than Suffolk County which is more formal For example someone will usually refer to the Suffolk District Attorney or the Suffolk Jail Comment Since Suffolk is not a shire like Oxfordshire I think they do call it County Suffolk occasionally and most of the American counties are County of when formally incorporated The place in England is Suffolk not Suffolk County It seems to me that the places in the US are known as Suffolk County not Suffolk hence the acceptable use of the Suffolk County disambig You are correct that Suffolk County is the official name at least in Massachusetts The County is usually dropped during informal discussions As for the county in England there is the Suffolk County Council here To be quite honest I m not going to push this issue any farther If users are of the opinion that the Suffolk of England should exist at Suffolk without disambiguation I will certainly accept that There is also Oxfordshire County Council but there is no Oxfordshire County This is because they are ALL called County Councils But Suffolk is never Suffolk County This is just not they way it is done in England Yes I suggest you remove this request as I believe you only did it to counter my proposal for Middlesex I did post this request in relation to your proposal for Middlesex but I assure you it was not in response or retaliation I was actually very interested in the Ceremonial counties of England article because I noticed almost all of the counties in my home state of Massachusetts are named after English counties Middlesex Essex Suffolk Berkshire to name a few After reading the comments from this proposal I have come to the conclusion that Suffolk County probably is the best disambiguation page However I still oppose the Middlesex proposed change Support Consistency Then you should actually oppose as virtually all the counties of England do not have England as part of the title Administrative counties of England Wouldn t Suffolk England or Suffolk UK be preferable anyway given naming conventions not that I wouldn t oppose that move too Oppose Entirely unnecessary Are we still talking about cricket I find myself having an Arthur Dent moment where Slartibartfast shows him the history of Krikkit and he is thinking of Paul McCartney buying half of England Where was I Oh yeah Oppose Oppose Naturally Oppose