Thanks for the info Ther are many smaller points which are questionable by perspective I believe but thanks for providing the links and the effort into the research for the information anyways It hardly helps the current consensus that has developed here and simply muddies the water this is not specifically the first time the name has been delegated to the dismbiguation format see higher up the talk page If the primary topic issue is really going to start hitting the fan then please note that arguments about such issues usually end up with blood on the floor and also people fall into the scope of WP ARBCOM territory and for any admins watching this talk page please be very careful where you step this is despite being at a SNOW level before Rybec turned up is now somewhat tricky territory I strongly suggest that great care is taken by all participants in this conversation on the example of previous primary topic debates To have to go through all this because there is a suspicion of automated traffic is something that really requires something well away from this talk page and to somewhere well clear of this particular topic