Thanks I m trying a States with Limited Recognition compromise that more closely matches the categories used for the Asia Europe Africa Americas template CMD Japinderum you ve heard everything below before As much as CI and Niue like Taiwan are a bad fit for the ever present other de facto list Abhazia Azawad Somaliland etc nobody but nobody among WP V sources such as World Factbook or US Dept of State list of independent states or the UN etc list these two in the list of 195 fully independent states The long debate on the talk page for List of Sovereign States put them in this other list category where they remain on 50 WP pages often in italics indicating non full independence They are not with the 195 in the top lists BTW as you know neither CI or Niue has declared independence one voted against it years ago and of the 195 on the fully independent WP UN etc lists every single one is recognized by at least 100 other states CI and Niue are recognized by one or two or three other states So being in the top fully independent list is a non starter until they declare independence no longer hold New Zealand citizenships get full UN membership get recognized by dozens and dozens of other states or something actually changes other than WP editors opinions So States with Limited Recognition this is a compromise for this template