Look I understand that it is difficult for you to accept that you are not competent in the use of the various citation styles but all I m doing is pointing out the obvious You complained about the following No label for page numbers Gee did I mention that only the APA style does that None of the other major styles use a page label IEEE does along with vol etc pretty much labeling everything Maybe you should use that style That no one likes Bluebook Actually there are several who like Bluebook I gave you several examples of good articles that used the Bluebook style and just above BD2412 stated that he preferred Bluebook for legal articles You complain that Judge Posner doesn t like Bluebook OK I ve known that for years I ve also known for years that he is only one of 874 Article III judges and only one of over 3 500 who have been appointed as an Article III judges I ve known that the ALWD style was developed to replace Bluebook except that it has failed miserably in doing so You claim to refute its usefulness but every point you made was either incorrect or not relevant Which is also the reason that I responded at length due to the WP WALLOFTEXT that you began the threaded discussion with Really You think that you can throw all of that BS up there and there would be no response How quaint I especially like how you try to turn your incompetence in revising the citations to my fault for correctly using a citation style that you didn t like Not only did you screw up the BB refs you changed others using at least two separate styles which BTW were not compatible with each other Not only that it was clearly shown by the diff That diff by itself raises a competence issues as to your work with non templated citations You complain about my explaining the Bluebook rules to you that you don t have a copy If it concerns you that much visit a law library or a university library It s not my job to provide you with the book nor for that matter the actual references You are wrong about the WP DATES argument as it clearly states in both the guidelines and the thousands of articles which use abbreviated dates You are also wrong where you say my comments are a goddamn lie as far as a direct quote that s correct but any editor would infer the same thing when you post this on their talk page Babyducking poorly executed fanboyism etc Then you also tell me to stop using ibid and please start using named refs for multiple use of a single source and maybe harvard notation It s pretty apparent what you meant I don t need someone who doesn t create content to tell me how to write an article When I need help on an article I go to people that have written good and featured articles like I have in the past You may have noticed that I have not asked you to help There s a reason for that