So vandals are creationists are they As for the rest what you describe as POV pushing may well not be I ve seen many claims of POV pushing by anti creationists who are in my opinion pushing their own POV I wonder if any of the biologists that you work with are in fact creationists who have not admitted as much to you Considering the condemnation name calling outright discrimination etc that they have to endure many simply keep quiet about it I agree that religion and science are not equivalent but I don t agree that the Biblical record is in conflict with science What the Biblical history is in conflict with is the religious often atheistic views of scientists passing their worldview off as science