Chinatown Oakland inuse Hi you ve placed an inuse template at 17 29 Just wondering when you will be done so I can also do some edits Thanks I removed the inuse template to do some edits Actually I have no plans to edit that article I saw your notice at the top of the article and I replaced it with the inuse template Latest news on image copyrights FYI there s been a change in the allowed uses of copyrighted images Non commercial only permission is no longer allowed per Jimbo Wales himself See Wikipedia Wikipedia Signpost 2005 05 23 Noncommercial images I don t know how this will effect your attempt to get permission from the Wizards of the Coast I have already read Jimbo s statement regarding that issue I think that is a very stupid change What s wrong with Jimbo If Wikipedia has the copyright owner s permission then the images should be allowed Yes it is a difficult policy because images are hard to paraphrase Well I guess we could sketch Or go take our own photographs when that s possible not easy to photograph an orc So did the Wizards ever even respond to your letter I recently asked for a GFDL license from a group for a news type photo using one of these Wikipedia Boilerplate request for permission and they gave unlimited permission You might ask again Maybe someone in the marketing department would see value Cheers No word from Wizards yet They are a huge corporation so it s not a surprise that they haven t answered yet if they ever will Do you mind if I try Not at all Non commercial only and By Permission Only Images to be deleted Why are non commercial only and by permission only images going to be deleted If one has the copyright owner s permission to use the images then one would think that using the images is okay Our goal is to create a free in the sense of GNU encyclopedia Non free images are contrary to that purpose When we accept non free images we make our work proprietary that is to say we change our work so that only Wikipedia may use it no one else can use it This is contrary to our fundamental principles The Four Freedoms of free software apply to Wikipedia People should have the right to copy our work They should have the right to distribute our work They should have the right to modify our work And they should have the right to distribute modified versions of our work There are a great many complexities and borderline cases associated with this Fair use presents a challenging example and I think that we rely far too heavily on fair use and that virtually all yes virtually all of the images which are currently tagged as fair use should be deleted But this is a grey area and so at this time I only urge people to be cautious about those But by permission only and non commercial only are not grey areas They are clearly non free images which hurt our work The examples I gave on the mailing list show why we are in some cases using non free images when it would be trivial to get a free image This means that people who want to use our work get a broken work This is bad imho its hypocritical to allow fair use images which are of virtually no use to commercial reusers due to variations in copyright law and which can only be used in context whilst not allowing images with permission that is simarlarlly restrictive I do agree about the