during the war you were de briefing pilots and I gather you had quite a lot of Flying Saucer reports Well no that was in the winter of 43 44 we were doing specialised raids on Stettin that part of the Baltic and some pilots coming back from a raid flying Lancasters so that s abut 20 24 thousand feet in the air for a raid there they d seen lights in the sky now we thought they were airborne lights by German German fighters now they were in the area where there was the new research station at Pennemunde so it could have been a special weapon so they d fired at these lights with their mid upper turrets and rear turrets and had no result they hadn t shot the light out all that they d got was a light that was flying round and round the aeroplane Michael Bentine in conversation with Patrick Moore on a 1979 edition of The Sky at Night audio only