Human Rights Violation Hearings — Bisho — 1996-11-19

UNKNOWN: The recommendations would usually entail that certain things which were regarded as root causes of those differences should be addressed, viz a viz certain people must be approached or the government must call a meeting or whatever.  There was never any recommendation that people must - people could be also encouraged to discuss it with the security branch of the police so that those people if any criminality was suspected so that that information would help the police in making further investigations and perhaps to arrest people if they were planning things that would end up being a threat to life and property.
 Basically what the Intelligence does, it collects the information, analyses it, gives it to the government, it is not necessarily information on crime.  Intelligence gives information which will give the authorities a better insight into what either certain policies of the government are having as an impact, negative or positive on the society or on certain quarters and to improve it if need be, or to be guarded if need be.

MR SANDI: Mr Gqozo thank you very much so far.  I think I will hand you over to the Chair.  Am I correct to think that you have no intention of answering these questions?

UNKNOWN: Sir I am honestly trying to answer exactly what I feel is within the perimeters of your question.

MR SANDI: Would you avail yourself if at a later stage you were to be approached by this Commission and have specific questions put to you, would you be available and prepared to answer those questions?

UNKNOWN: Yes I will be ...(intervention)

MR SANDI: I take it that you say my impression that you do not intend to answer my questions isn't correct?

UNKNOWN: No it is not.

MR SANDI: Thank you Mr Gqozo.  Thank you Mr Chairman.

MR POTGIETER: Thank you Advocate Sandi.  Brigadier there are many, many questions that arise from your testimony and from your submission and as I have indicated earlier, and I think Advocate Sandi has referred to it now as well, this is obviously a process and that there will more than likely be many more issues that we would like to raise with you, but practically it's impossible to do it all at a sitting like this.  There are a lot more other witnesses that must still be heard today.
 This is the last day of this section on Bisho, so as much as we would have liked to debate some more issues with you we can't, practically can't do that, but I want to take the opportunity now to thank you for having come.  Thank you for making yourself available, making the submission to us and testifying and bringing your perspective about this incident before us.  We thank you very much for that.  But as I say at this stage we will have to stop and excuse you until we perhaps make another arrangement to deal with whatever still remains to be dealt with.   But thank you very much.  I will excuse you at this stage.  I am going to ask the people just to remain seated, I am not adjourning yet.  I am not adjourning.  I am excusing Brigadier Gqozo 
and Advocate Collett, you may be excused.

UNKNOWN: Thank you Mr Chairman.

MR POTGIETER: Pleasure.  Thank you, thank you very much.  We will adjourn until 2 o'clock.
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