Amnesty Hearings — Durban — UNKNOWN

DJ MKHIZE: I think I am known countrywide by now because of what I did.  I did those horrendous things firstly because I was in a position of authority within the police force.  And therefore if I were to be granted amnesty I would not be in the same position as I was then.  Secondly there is no-one who would not be observing my movements worldwide.
	I cannot go and reside in a place without being identified as Ngina Mkhize.  The media has beamed my face throughout the country.  And this affects my life.  Therefore it means my life can equally be monitored by a small child.  Children can also identify me and therefore I don't see myself coming back to do the same things.
	And also the people who had influence on me are no longer there.  But the most important thing is the conscience that prevails in me; the conscience in which I trust.
	I would like to go back to society to prove to them that a person is capable of changing.  I would like to show them what talents and abilities I have, so that these could be used constructively within the society and the community in which I live.
	I don't have a formula now as to what I am going to do to gain all these things.  But that which comes from the bottom of my heart suggests that those are things that I have to do to repay the society.
	I have also indicated this to my legal representative.  I actually asked him if there isn't any help or assistance that I can engage in, knowing that the TRC has a Reparation Committee.  We know that people qualify in different ways so that they can get those financial assistances.
	I was told that the compensations range between R17 000 and R23 000.  I am therefore prepared that of all the people who are here, I am also prepared to make statements about one individual after another, that they died for political reasons and therefore they should qualify to get those compensations.
	I know that even though such a thing can happen, these people cannot be restored back into life.  That is just a tiny bit that can reflect my commitment.  If I had the ability, I would fork out whatever amount I had to assist these families.  But I don't have the financial capacity to do that.

MR KHUMALO: Mr Chairman, if you could allow me, could I please make my submission on behalf of the bereaved family, and thereafter I'll just make a few comments.  And I will then have concluded my questioning.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Mr Khumalo.

MR KHUMALO: Thank you.
	Firstly Mr Chairman, the bereaved family would like all the implicated parties be subpoenaed to challenge the evidence led by Mr - so that we could actually verify the evidence led by Mr Mkhize.  Because to the family there is no way we find that the assassination was politically motivated.  It was just a misunderstanding between the police in the execution of their functions.  They were not trusting one another and as such they decided to assassinate one another in case there was any suspicion.
	In that regard we would like to have all implicated parties be subpoenaed.  That is Brig Mzimela, Maj Langeni, Mrs Mbuyazi and the rest.
	And the other thing we would like to have, to allow the law to take its course as far as the docket that was opened is concerned.  It must be re-opened and as such to allow these people who avail themself to fall in, so that we see and challenge the evidence within that.
	And there is no way that as the bereaved members will believe that assassination taking place between the members of the police which is supposed to be serving its own nation at that time betrayed one another.  And killing, even in the Bible or by God is totally condemned.  And prosecution of all implicated, plus yourself, Mr Khize and your colleagues has not taken place where the docket was opened.
	We want to see justice or the law taking its course accordingly in this matter.  The deceased, that is Sgt Khumalo, did not give us any opportunity to give us a mandate as to what to say here and not to say here.
	You are lucky Mr Mkhize that you are alive and you can lead evidence the way it suits you.   But our brother is not available here on earth to put his case forward as you have done.
	At the funeral of our brother the members of the Kwazulu police concerned participated unbelievably.  They were all showing their interest, showing their sympathy; their empathy with the whole family.  Even Brig Mzimela was one of the people who actually contributed a goat.  According to our culture Mr Chairman, when somebody has died there is a lot of slaughtering that takes place just to get people to get meat and the rest of the eating that has to take place.  So he was the first one to contribute that.  But today he is the same person who is implicated by Mr Mkhize.
	And the rest of the members participated in that funeral.  They wanted us to believe that the killers were not among the hit squad within their operation.  And today it is clearly showing that our brother was assassinated by his colleagues.  And no politics involved.
	On these notes I beg to close Mr Chairman.

CHAIRPERSON: Yes, thank you Mr Khumalo.  I see that it is now four o'clock and time for these proceedings to draw to a close today.  I'd just like to announce that tomorrow if it's convenient we'll commence again at half past nine in the morning, but unfortunately tomorrow's proceedings will only last until one o'clock.  Certain persons has to catch the flight out of Richards Bay which leaves shortly after two; so we'll adjourn at one o'clock tomorrow.  Then we'll be here the following week for the whole week and hopefully we'll start again after tomorrow's session at half past nine on Monday.
	So at this stage I'll adjourn the proceedings now till half past nine tomorrow.
COMMITTEE ADJOURNS