Amnesty Hearings — Johannesburg — 1998-09-15

CHAIRPERSON: So, what we have is the application in respect of all of these counts as listed on page 22 of our record in respect of which he was convicted, including the Yeoville incident?

MR MBANDAZAYO: Correct, Mr Chairman.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you.  Thank you, Mr Mbandazayo.

MR MBANDAZAYO: Thank you, Mr Chairman.

MR MAPOMA: Thank you, Chairperson, no argument.
NO ARGUMENT BY MR MAPOMA

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you.  Well, that concludes the evidence and the arguments in this matter.  We would need to take a bit of time to consider our decision in the matter.  We are hopeful of giving a decision as quickly as possible.
	We know that you are still involved in the rest of the proceedings and hopefully we might be able to deal with the matter in this particular session, but we will inform both yourself and Mr Mapoma about how we intend and when we intend to present the decision.  So, for the purposes of this particular application we will adjourn the matter at this stage to consider our decision, and we will notify you when we are in a position to actually give that.  I know, Mr Mbandazayo, you are also involved in the remaining two matters on our role, which I understand you actually kindly agreed to take the instruction on at a very late stage, in fact I think at the beginning of this week only.  So, I accept that you obviously are not in a position to proceed with those matters immediately, you would obviously need a bit of time to prepare for those two matters.

MR MBANDAZAYO: Thank you, Mr Chairman.  I would appreciate that time if I can be given this afternoon so that to facilitate the whole thing, because definitely if we start without proper consultation it can take us a very long time.  So, if I can be given this time of this afternoon and consult with them.  Yesterday I tried but the Correctional Services have to rush with them to gaol.  So, now that we've finished earlier in this matter, I can have time with them here and consult with them and make full preparation for tomorrow.  So, hopefully that will enable to fit them tomorrow if everything goes well.

CHAIRPERSON: No, thank you very much.  We do appreciate your assistance and your willingness to assist those two applicants as well.  And hopefully you are in a position to make the preparations in respect of both those two matters so that we might be able to deal with them consecutively if it is possible.  So, under those circumstances we will adjourn the proceedings today and we will reconvene at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning in order to deal with the remaining two matters on our role, and as I've indicated, we will notify you what we intend doing in respect of the judgment, the decisions.
	Can I just ask the Correctional Service's representatives just to please take note that we won't be sitting this afternoon, but the time will be used to prepare for the remaining two matters which are on our roll.  So, would you ensure that those two persons are made available to Mr Mbandazayo so that he can prepare for the rest of the afternoon and you don't remove them immediately to prison.  So please do that so that we can try and conclude our proceedings without any further interruption.  Thank you very much.  We will then adjourn until tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock.
COMMITTEE ADJOURNS