Special Hearings — Mandela United Football Club Hearings — UNKNOWN

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: When we were in the cars driving to Zola I asked one of these comrades that were with in the car: "What are we actually going to do in Zola"? because according to me we should all have left to the night vigil and they told me that we're going to fetch a firearm.
 We were given hand grenades one, one, each and we drove to Zola to a certain street and parked there.  "C" got out of the car and went into another house's premises and we were left in the car and I was in the Audi car.  I saw him talking to somebody in those premises and as they were talking I just heard a gunshot, I saw that person running away and going around to the back of the house.
 We got out the car and we rushed to the scene and when we got inside there, there were two ladies standing outside and "C" spoke to those ladies.  We got out and walked down the street to a certain house, when we got there we knocked at the door and we surrounded the house.  We knocked at the front and at the back and on the windows as well.
 When they tried to peep through the windows we showed them the hand grenades, they were so terrified.  They opened the door and we got one boy who was inside that house and we went back to the first house that we were at.  When we got there we found those two ladies still standing there and this boy told the other lady that she should give us the gun.  
 That lady was so scared and she denied any knowledge of the gun but saw one boy opening the coal box outside and Bobo opened the coal box outside and got the firearm in there and he took the magazine.  I don't know what he was inspecting on the magazine of the gun and took it back and he ran inside the house.  When he got inside the house we followed him with Charles Zwane.
 He went through the bedroom and closed the door, we pushed the door and it could not open.  He pulled out the gun and shot the door and the door burst open and we found him lying on the bed and the other one who was shot was just laying right next to the door.  Bobo pulled him and lifted up the bed and Bobo pulled him and put right next to the other one who was laying by the door. "C" appeared immediately and shot again and we left immediately.

MR MAKANJEE: For the purpose of the record, who is Bobo?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: That is Charles Zwane.

MR MAKANJEE: And after this incident you were detained in connection with this incident, is that correct?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Yes, that is correct.

MR MAKANJEE: When you were released, what did you do?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: When I got back from detention in Protea I went back to Mrs Madikizela-Mandela's home.

MR MAKANJEE: Can you tell us about the Dalywonga High School incident?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Boys of Dalywonga High School are the ones responsible for the burning of Mrs Mandela's home.

MR MAKANJEE: Can you tell me the events that led up to the burning of Mrs Madikizela-Mandela's house?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: The cause for that was that during the detention in Protea - there were two clubs, there was one girls club and the boys club and the girls club was called Mandela Sisters.  There was another girl who was playing for Mandela Sisters because when I got back from detention there was Mandela Sisters and this other girl belonged to that club.
 One time she was in town in a disco image club and that same evening she could not get transport coming back home and was given a ride from certain boys in Duwe and she was raped.

MR MAKANJEE: The boys in Duwe, were they members of the Mandela Football Club?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: No, they were not football club members, they were just students at Dalywonga.

MR MAKANJEE: Carry on.

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: When the house was set alight I was at work at Mrs Mandela's restaurant in Auckland Park.  After she was raped she went to Mrs Mandela's home to report the matter as to where she was coming from, from the disco and she was subsequently raped only to find that those boys would be collected for this matter.
 In the afternoon after work when I got back home I found them at home, they were already assaulted when I got them - when I found them in Lusaka.  The other two I knew from Lower Primary School,  I asked them as to what happened, what was happening and what they wanted there, they told me that this girl is alleging that we raped her.

MR MAKANJEE: Mr Ikaneng, slow down.  Who collected these boys who were belonging to Dalywonga High School?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: I wouldn't be in a position to answer that, I would just assume that the football club members were the ones who collected them because I found them at home after work.

MR MAKANJEE: When you say: "home", whose home are you referring to?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: I'm referring to Winnie Mandela's home in Orlando West.

MR MAKANJEE: Would you describe the condition that you found these boys in?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Yes.  They were sjamboked and one could tell that they electrocuted in some way and  it was usual that they were tortured and electrocuted as well.

MR MAKANJEE: Where were they being kept in the house itself?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: They were in a shack, the one we refer to as Lusaka.

MR MAKANJEE: Now did anybody who lived in the house at that stage enter this shack at any stage during these assaults?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: When they were being assaulted, Zinzi Mandela is the one who was instigating and saying they are rapist and they must be tortured.

MR MAKANJEE: Okay, let me just get one thing clear, you said just now that you were not present when they were assaulted, are you now saying that there was more than one assault on these boys?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: When I got there they were already assaulted and again at night we assaulted them.

MR MAKANJEE: So, at night when the assault took place, who was carrying out these assaults?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: It was us the football club members and Zinzi herself participated.

MR MAKANJEE: So, if I'm correct you're saying that Zinzi came into the shack while the assault was carrying on, did not take any steps to stop it and left the shack on numerous occasions, is that correct?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Zinzi was instigating the whole thing and was re-enforcing the assault.

MR MAKANJEE: Was this the assault that led to the burning of Mrs Madikizela-Mandela's house?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Yes, that's true.

MR MAKANJEE: Let's just go further on, on to another event.  There was a stage where you went to Bheki Mashlangu's shebeen, is that correct?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Yes, Bheki Mashlangu.

MR MAKANJEE: Was that around the same time that Toli Dlamini was killed?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: Yes, that was the day.

MR MAKANJEE: Can you tell us the incidents that led to Toli's death?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: When Toli died or the day Toli died, we were planning to go to a night vigil in Pimville.  In the afternoon myself and Toli - told him that we should go and prepare ourselves and get ready for the night vigil.  Indeed we went to our various homes and prepared ourselves and wore our T-shirts, we went to Toli's home as he was my neighbour and I picked him up and we left.
 We went through a passage that was going down the street, it was the third street from our homes and when we got to the tavern Mashlangu's tavern we saw many people gathered outside by the gate.  I asked Toli if he will go and see what was happening, we went there and we realised that those were the boys from around and they were drunk.   We saw Sizwe approaching with Butele and Butele had a coat on ...[intervention]

MR MAKANJEE: Sorry, Sizwe that you refer to, who is Sizwe?

LEROTHODI ANDREW IKANENG: I'm referring to Sizwe Sithole, the one who was Zinzi's boyfriend.

MR MAKANJEE: Continue.