Human Rights Violation Hearings — Duncan Village — 1996-09-24

UNKNOWN: Yes, I can recognise him, but I'm not sure if he is still there, because he was a little bit old then.

JUNE CRICHTON: How long then was it before Goodwill died?

UNKNOWN: The whole thing happened on a Monday and then we went to the hospital on a Tuesday.  I went back again on a Wednesday.  He was still alive in the morning on that
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Wednesday, it was seven o'clock.
 Twelve o'clock, midday I went there again, I was told that he died later that afternoon.

JUNE CRICHTON: Ms Wili, is there anything particular you want to ask the Commission to recommend to the President for you?

UNKNOWN: Yes, I would like, I would request that an investigation should be done concerning the death of my child.

JUNE CRICHTON: Thank you Ms Wili.

BONGANI FINCA: Thank you Ms Wili, we are going to call upon Ms Nomathemba Grey.

JUNE CRICHTON: Ms Grey, can you hear me?

UNKNOWN: Yes, I can hear you.

JUNE CRICHTON: Ms Grey, you are here to tell us about the murder of  your brother.

UNKNOWN: That's correct.

JUNE CRICHTON: Fudusile Grey?

UNKNOWN: That's correct.

JUNE CRICHTON: And he was shot in front of a neighbour's shack in August of 1985.   Would you tell us what happened please.

UNKNOWN: Yes.  I was on my way from work.  He was also coming from work, he was not there for the whole day.
 When I arrived at Ngaleni I told that we must go to Pumelani.  He refused, we slept there.  Early in the morning, he left to see the others.  I also went to see other women in the same area.
 I was called, I was told that he was shot.  I went to the scene.  I saw him, he was on the bed.  He was shot under the left nipple. 
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 He was dead already.  I went to tell my sister.  I went to catch a taxi to see my sister.  We went back home.
 My brothers were not there yet.  They came and they left again.  I don't even know the mortuary where he was taken to, I don't know that mortuary.

JUNE CRICHTON: Are you all right, can I proceed now?  Can you tell me about the funeral now?

UNKNOWN: We wanted to take him for the funeral.  They refused, they said he was going to be buried with others.

JUNE CRICHTON: Who is they, who refused?

UNKNOWN: The people from that mortuary, the people of that mortuary, they refused.  They said he was going to be buried at Siponsani at Duncan Village.

JUNE CRICHTON: Ms Grey, you were working at this time.  Where were you working?

UNKNOWN: I was working for the BMW company.

JUNE CRICHTON: And they gave you time off.  Did you go back to work there again?

UNKNOWN: Yes, I did.  I did go back to work.

JUNE CRICHTON: Are you still working there?

UNKNOWN: No, I am unemployed at the moment.

JUNE CRICHTON: Did you at any time approach any attorneys to lay a civil claim?

UNKNOWN: No, I didn't approach any attorney.

JUNE CRICHTON: Were you contacted to attend any inquest?

UNKNOWN: No, there was no case.

JUNE CRICHTON: Ms Grey is there anything more you want to tell me about the actual incident?  If not, then you can just go to tell us how you feel you would like the Commission to assist you.

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the upbringing of his child.

JUNE CRICHTON: Thank you Ms Grey.  I am sorry that we had to stir these memories, but it is important that we do.

BONGANI FINCA: Ntsikelelo Sandi.

MR SANDI: Ms Grey, what was Fudusile doing.  Was he working at the time?

UNKNOWN: Yes, he was working for the SABAT.

MR SANDI: Thank you.

BONGANI FINCA: Revd Xundu.

REV XUNDU: How old is this child Ma'am?

UNKNOWN: He is 12 years old, he is doing standard 3.

REV XUNDU: Thank you.

BONGANI FINCA: Thank you very much for the three of you Mr Makeke, Ms Wili and Ms Grey for the evidence that you were giving us.  You can go back to your places.