Human Rights Violation Hearings — Pretoria — 1996-08-15

MR LEWIN: Just one last question Mrs Baloyi.  Could I ask you, you mention having made a statement at the Atteridgeville Police Station.  What happened after that?  Was there any follow-up at all, ever?
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SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: No, they never came to me.  Since we made the statement no one has contacted us, but when I told them that I must pay R100,00 at the hospital they wrote back the letter to the Hospital Superintendent and removed this debt.  That is what made me believe that is was they who caused this thing to us.

MR LEWIN: Thanks very much Mrs Baloyi, I will pass you back to the Chair.  Thank you.

CHAIRPERSON: Any other questions?

MR MALAN: No questions.

CHAIRPERSON: Russell.

RUSSELL ALLY: Mama Baloyi, you say that the police were bombing houses.

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: Yes, it is so.

RUSSELL ALLY: Was, could you just tell us a bit about that?  Were there many houses being bombed during this time and how can you be sure that it was the police?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: We were three who went to the hospital and we were discharged on one day or we were admitted in one day.  The bomb exploded in Moeraring Street and they went to Fendanie.  At the hospital we were sleeping in the same ward and that is where we talked about these things.

RUSSELL ALLY: Now in Saulsville in this period 1985, 1986 there was a lot of political activity taking place.  Was this political activity just between the police and the community or were there other aspects to this conflict?  Was there conflict within the community itself, maybe, also during this time?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: I do not know because I was not moving around a lot.  What I did was to live from home to work and from work I would go to Church.  I did not know what was
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happening around.

RUSSELL ALLY: Thank you.

PROF MEIRING: Mrs Baloyi, may I ask a few questions about your circumstance at the moment.  Your husband has died, how many children do you still have?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: I have nine children.

PROF MEIRING: And are they looking after you?  Are they able to look after you or do you still have to work?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: I have to work, I cannot even wash my clothes and my shoulders are very painful at the moment.  I cannot do anything for myself.

PROF MEIRING: Thank you and a last question.  After the whole sad incident did you receive any compensation from anybody apart from the R100,00?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: No there is nothing I have been compensated with.

PROF MEIRING: Thank you and a last question, where is Stanley at the moment, your son?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: He is at Pelindaba.

PROF MEIRING: What does he do there?

SELINA MAKAO BALOYI: He does not do anything.  He does not even work.

PROF MEIRING: Thank you very much.

CHAIRPERSON: Mrs Baloyi, we thank you for having come before the Truth Commission and telling us your story.  We understand the sorrow that you have been through.  You and your family, we understand that even if Mr Baloyi was still sick that maybe his illness worse.  What we would like to say to you is that to lose a family member, it is something hurting in ones life.  We accept what you have told us.  We will see, after some time, what is it that we can bring
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forward or which answers we can bring to you.  We thank you and we request you to pass our greetings to those at home and Stanley must still assist us to understand fully the circumstances surrounding your story.  We thank you Mrs Baloyi.
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