Amnesty Hearings — Boksburg — 1999-02-23

CHAIRPERSON: Mr Cachalia, any questions arising?

AZHAR CACHALIA: Thank you, none, sir.

CHAIRPERSON: Ms Lockhat, any questions arising?

MS LOCKHAT: No questions Chairperson.

CHAIRPERSON: Mr Sithole thank you.  That concludes your testimony.  You may stand down now.
WITNESS EXCUSED

CHAIRPERSON: That concludes your clients Mr Claassen?

MR CLAASSEN: Thank you Mr Chair, that concludes the case for the applicant.

CHAIRPERSON: Thank you.  Mr Draht?

MR DRAHT: Mr Chairperson I'm not sure if Ms Lockhat is going to call any witnesses.

CHAIRPERSON: I think how we'll do this, Mr Claassen indicated that he's not calling any further witnesses in furtherance of Mr Sithole's case.  What we'll do, is we'll deal with each applicant's case, and then, you know, you can call your applicants and any witnesses if you want to call any witnesses, and then we will, when the applicants have concluded their case, we will deal with Mr Cachalia's case.  I don't know if Ms Lockhat will have any because Mr Cachalia's representing all the victims.  Ms Lockhat here is just a, she's a watchperson here, she's just watching the proceedings.  And then after that we'll then have arguments.  So the witnesses will get their opportunity at the conclusion of all the applicants' versions.  I've been requested to take a short adjournment now.  I was just wondering whether it would be possible, if we take a short adjournment now, just to perhaps conclude the evidence-in-chief of your first applicant that  you wish to call.

MR DRAHT: Mr Chairperson I wish to speak to my client also for a few minutes.  This morning I couldn't get a chance to clear up something with him.  It will be very short.

CHAIRPERSON: Well perhaps we can take a short adjournment now, see how you go with your consultation, and if it's possible to finish your evidence-in-chief by half past fourish we can start, otherwise we'll start tomorrow, but if you could let us know.  Thank you.  We'll take a short adjournment at this stage.
COMMITTEE ADJOURNS
ON RESUMPTION

CHAIRPERSON: Yes thank you.  During the adjournment now it's been indicated to us by Mr Draht who appears for the next applicant who is due to give evidence, that's Mr Ndlovu, that he requires some more time to have a final consultation with his client, and taking into account the fact that it's now already four o'clock, it wouldn't be practicable to start, to wait and then start later just for, and sit for a few minutes more, so in the circumstances, this matter will then be postponed until tomorrow morning at this hall, but we would like to start at nine o'clock in the morning in order to give us as much time as possible and to make us for this little bit of lost  time now.
	The matter is then postponed to nine o'clock tomorrow morning in this venue, and I would ask the Department of Correctional Services please if they can ensure to have the applicants who are, the applicants who are in detention, brought to the hall by half past eight, half-nege asseblief, om die prokureur kans to gee om bietjie meer met sy kliente te praat asseblief.  So as hulle kan hier half-nege wees, en dan kan ons, then we'll start at nine in the morning.  So we postpone then until nine o'clock tomorrow, but if the applicants can be brought through at half past eight.  Thank you.
COMMITTEE ADJOURNS