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that there could be no doubt as to the malt of tie cou-
lee, In the nature of the reknit, however, the totally
disagreed; for if, as the Honourable Baronet anticipated.
the contest should be short, its brevity wonld follow
from the rrsiFnation of his opponent.--(Mingled ap-
plause and disapprohation.)—Many things had been
stated in the course of that day, which, considering the
time that was already occupieil in addressing them, he
should reply to upon future opportunities. But there
were a few statements to which he thnught it right to
rive a contradiction at once. He had been accused by
Mr. liohliouse of having broken his pledge to support
the principle of Triennial Parliaments, and in support of
that arcusation he had brought with him a printed copy
of his (Mr. Lamb's) speech in Parliament. The Honour.'
able Baronet had gone so far in expressing his is.
dignation against that speech, as to say, that be would
rather have him against him than for him on the divi.
siun ; by which asperity be did him the honour of
an unintended compliment, as he shewed that he con-
sidered his speech of more importance than his vote.
A very short time, indeed, had elapsed since he was
placed before the electors, and honoured with their
choice as a person tit to represent them in Parliament.
Tipy had now, in consequence of the sudden dissolution
of Parliament, a foretaste of the benefits which it was
supposed would be derived from that invaluable—he
would not use the hard word pongees—but, as there
were quacks of various sorts, he would call it the inva-
luable nostrum, which they held forth as the only one
by which the Constitution could be reformed —(threat
disapprobation.)—lle was also charged with calling the
House of Commons the true Representatives of the
people. Ile had certainly called them the Constitutional
Representatives, and was prepared to do so still, though
he was willing to contribute every thing in his power to
render them more deserving of the confidence of the Pe
With respect to the letter that was read to thou at
morning, and was probably purloined for the purpose.
lie was much more ready to avow himself the author,
than he would he to lead it in violation of the confi-
dence of friendship. As to the pamphlet for whirl; Mr.
Hubliouse was committed, he did nut hesitate to say, that
it was a dippant insult on the House. There was an old
adage, which said, " Oh, that mine enemy would write
a book." His enemies hail written many books, and)
they had done them bnt little credit. The Hon. Baronet
had indulged himself, as usual, in quotations from
Shakespeare, his favourite author. He wonld remind
the Hon. Baronet of another passage from the saw,
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" 0 Cassius, thou art yoked with a lamb,
Which cattle.; anger as the lint bears Ire,
That much enforced, shews as hasty spark,
Aid straight is cold
For the present he should trespass no longer upon the
time of the ;meeting ; but he would take care to appear
before them every day, to repel the arguments and'
answer the misrepresentations that might be urged
against him—(Nrr-at clamour.)
Mr. Hounouss then came forward, amid loud them%
He returned thanks fur the 165 uniulluetwed votes,
proceeded to comment on what had fallen fram
Leash. Whether the account was correct or SOF, WOO
matter of very little importance, as far as regarded the
vacation. The charge against Mr. Lamb was, not that
he neglected to advocate triennial Parliaments, bet he
had forgotten to say one word in favonr of the esteasion
of the right of suffrage to all householders. The question
of suffrage was the important point, and that he had omit.
led. Iles principle of Reform was, that when a case vat
made out against any of the rotten boroughs, the elec-
tive franchise should be thrown into the adjoining hem
tired. But be had gone beyond this. He had described
the House of Commons as the Constitutional
retires of the people. Was this giving a falsetegt nit
his words.—(Mr. Lamb answered, No, no !)—He had e
pressed a hope, in the warm of his speech. that
awl fallen from hint which meld hieinsldsresl =A
tore to the character of that House—of that Memel
Ithich bad passed such Bills as mast for ever fix a stain
upon its character. They had heard Mr. L's *pinion
Von the pamphlet which he wrote ; but before he Whoa
of the discredit that belonged to it, he ought to have
marl it with son attention, and if he had done so
be never rould have impaled to him a wish to effect
I/affirm by violent means. He could take his solemn
enth that it was written with no such intention. kir.
Lamb had done hint the honour N call on him while in
confinement, which at that titne he considered a sort of
proof that he did not go the length of those who ap-
proved of hi. committal—or the committal of an E Of.
Bateman to prison, without trial, without a bearing; bet
now that favourable impression was removed, by his the
elaration that the punishment was proper. This tee.
from a lawyer, and a lawyer, who knew so neat+ tif
Lord Chancellor Forteseue! Was that a lientlentan fit to
represent them In the House of Commons? There were
many of Mr. Lamb's party who did not approve of the act;
he himself knew $Oll6ll of the bast of those who con-
demned it. He remembered that at the last election be
declared himself the friend of the poor man, but pro-
bably he did not consider him poor and' therefore not
entitled to his friendship. He hard said that he was
properly punished. line thing, however, was plain.
that they wonld be properly punished if they elected
him—(lmad langhter.)—He had candidly told them
his opinions, and they were to blame if they ran the
risk of their operation. He had stated with ropes;
to the letter, that he would mach rather have writtes
than read it. For his own part, he bad felt no pleasitre
In reading it, and as for writing it be was incapable.
Set it was not • violation of prtrate correspondence, it
wee a canvassing letter. All he knew about it was, that
ballaind it lying in his committee-room, and he did not
read It until he had obtained leave. He expected to
Mar Mr. Lamb say, that is his insianatioas upon this
natiect be did *Omens to throw out soy hist& ageism
Mm, which he would not have used towards any
Gentleman. At teas 'a regular caavassing letter.
tatetroirtght approve othi• estwomMital is liertgasitut
Once months, nee a country timadessan did sot
know what a note of Interrogation menet but it woe
not that which recommended him to their artiste. He
should detain them no longer than while he repented
his thanks for their support. and his hope at they
would establish the -freak. of Westnsineter is ends a
basis as no (uteri party meld be able to i11e10e1p..4.•
(Loud applause.)
The Meeting then lima**.

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SOUTHWARK BLSCTION.
T DVSS DA T -1-TD lUD • DA Y.
The polling -*eat ea tu•dy is the usual maser, cad
at tow u clack tits ottothera ware as follows 3-
Dlr. Calvert - - - ISM
• Sir R. Wilsea - - INS

sir T. Torten - -
The numbers haring been deslared• by the
Bailiff,
Mr. IDALWMIT came forward, and was reeelveal with
bend applause. He hardly knew, he sahl, hew to Pe-
ters thanks to the electors ler the high eitvatioo to
*hid. they had placed biog. Me bullion% ca tatio.r
occasions, slood'lbigber W tiso poll 40 Illte.dird of
the election. He attribeted Ibio. set en melt to disk
reseed retard. t. Mai, irtraiir et the awe
had always ' ).-1111* seer
bin en this lists poll nHr ' his pooping ensile
Brat Any nisi* lbeLdp.d the Neseeuralbbr BerolletieeOW
sew feel ceorinced of its ere& He trusted also, *et

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the Worthy eases* woutt Imitate the
be (Mr. Calverqhad set on a former oc
resigning when he found the, contest
would not tell the electors that he
adored them; bnt of this he could asst,
he should always respect and esteem them,
to the best of his power, to their interests.—.
The Hon. Baronet was alrcatly 700 behind, and if" he
went on, the number would soon be doubled. It was
necessary, however, to he on their guanl against the
winning ways of the Hon. Baronet, for he had a silver
tongue. For I' self he bad only the honest simplicity
of a John Bull to recommend him. With the small
powers, however, with which nature had gifted him, he
would never cease to do all he could to promote their
interests.—(Cheers.)
Sir R. WiLsos was so much pleased with the exertions
of his friends, that without vanity, he could not do less
than compare them to a patriotic armv.—(tareat ap-
plause.)—lt was, however, quite fair for the Worthy
Baronet to endeavour to obtain their thknks by giving
up the contest, as a compensation for having lost their
votes.—(Laughing.)—Let hint march out with all the
honours of war; he was sure, from the many. trials they
had of good temper, they would not deny lam that ; but
let him not go off with the hearts of their wives and
daughters, which seemed to he no small share of his
object yesterday. lie, however, spoke not so much to
them as to the fair electresses in the crowd, and he seemed
to feel, chit that man who has a tongue, and with
that cannot win a woman, was no man.—(Much laugh-
ter.)-IVitliont doubt the electresses thought him a
good man. With, all the skill of a General, the Worthy
Barouet first usnmed the defensive; but then bringing
up his forces, he suddenly assumed the offensive.—i
(Applause.)—He (Sir Robert), however, was too much
lof an old warrior to be taken in. Too leach of his life
was spent among hussars and cossacks, to hazard a
I move forward without covering his Manks:—(Applause.)
As yet the Hon. Baronet lead given no pledge about
Reform : why then should he charge him (Sir R.) and
his colleague with being pledged to support Catholic
Emancipation ? Was he to understand the charge was
persisted in, or was it withdrawn ? If it was not, he felt
et necessary to give some explanation. The subj!ct was
a delicate and important one, but, as the Hon. Baronet
bad thrown an ones on him, he would, be hoped, give
such an explanation of his conduct in Parliament, con-
nected with the subject of Catholic Emancipation, as
would create a perfect understanding between him and
his constituents in future. In early life, he had either
the good or bad fortune to receive a tolerable education:
with this, however, he imbibed all the prejudices of the
theme, and he was unconsciously taught to believe, that
whilst an Englishman eat plum-pudding, the Frenchman
eat frogs, and that the rest of the world were bar?mrians.
He had also prejudices. He thonght the Catholics
were persons armed with fire and faggots, and be.
lease there was a religious war in this country two
hundred and fifty years ago, therefore they were to be
sntirpated. With these impressions he issued into Wo—
ke went abroad—thought he would see the Catholic
ameh a creature as his imagination represented him;
but, instead of that, he found himself in the midst of
soldiers and officers who were Catholics, good and ho-
liest fellows, whose only ambition was to be foremost
at the post of danger, maintaining Old England's ho.
neur.—(Applause.)—He saw her armies tilled, and her
bets manned with Catholics; he saw them fighting na-
-1 dee Howe and Nelson, and contributing, by their bra-
Ivy sod devotion, to give us the empire of the (Kean.—
, &saw in Germany, notwithstanding the many religious
1 tines that desolated it, that the Catholic and Pes-
kiest:int lived together, and the only thing that made
• distinction was, who had served his country best.—
In Russia and in America he witnessed the good
'drum of toleration; and in no country but this did
',boy pay their religion so had a compliment, es to
fear the Catholic would have the aocesidasiey.—.
1 (Brave )—Wbee the Revolation began in Prance,
not the reign of horrors, but the first dawning of
that liberty which overthrew a despotism that could,
by a !ewe ele rocket, send thirty millions of people to
prison, no distinction was made between the Catholics
and Protestants who were before persecuted—all were
admitted alike to the benefits of liberty.—(Applause.)—
He was also in Ireland—wretched Ireland, where a me-
lancholy picture was affonled him of the effects of reli-
gious persecution. He never saw misery, distress, and
oppression so completely enthroned as it was in that
country. Was he then to turn his back to the Petitions
of these people, praying for inquiry into their situation?
In the House of Lords, he bad heard the great champion
of the Protestant religion, Lord Liverpool, say, that
there was no fear to be entertained from Catholic tenets,
bat they refused to comply with certain State forms, and
therefore it was that they were not emancipated. But
how hail the charge of supporting this question been
made out ? The fact was, that the only question be-
fore Parliament, was, for a Committee to inquire into
the state of the law respecting the oaths to be taken
by persons holding civil &Mese, and to see if an
and what alteration could be made in them with
safety to the State, Ste. Now what was this but asking
for inquiry? No petition did lees. If the electors Wire
to blame a mu for supporting a motion of this Mad,
hew could they find kelt with the Hew of Commons
for rejecting the numerous petitions which were from
time to time presented to them ? All that was asked,
was a rule to skew case. And where was it found. that
a Judge. by greeting sash a rale, decided on tha merits
at the question ? All that a Judge pledged hidlself to,
by gtantits,g such a rule, was to do justice between both
,parties after they had been severally heard. This and
this only was he pledged to, by giving his vote on the
,' on elteded to. If the motion had been granted,
rI.
II the House had gone Into a Committee, then it
d have been the duty of the electors to have met,
to have taken the opinions of their Representatives. aid
to have given them their instructions. He homed, he
laid, that he should never see Southwark aAm Ileir
Ilybegh. •He should not like to have the electera hustled
an those of Buckingham had been, ease dm elute. by
Anthony Healey, their itereeeetative. That Gentle-
man having been written to by his oomeliaments oe the
severity of the Excise Laws, wrote nearly ae fellows :
". Gentlemen—l am surprised at your inspedesee I you
know I bought you, and by ti—d, I am determined to
sell you. I know what you do not think; I 'mew that
you are about to sell yourselves to another; and I also
knew what yea de sot knew, that I mean to purchase
another borough, and so you may all go to —. "
I shall not, said the Gallant General, say to the devil,
bat I may say, to the professional friend of the Worthy
Baronet.—(Latighing.)—As for himself, ke trusted be
should be always able to say with the poet :
" Thy spirit, Independesee let me &ere,
Lord or the Hen heart mangle eye :
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Thy form 111 follow with Ey hisooi bare.
Nor hood tho starts that howls aloft the sky." ,
• Sir T. Torres thee same forward, sad was
well received. His slteatiou was set very e but
he came forward is order to mauifeet the imlopeieimee
of Southwark.— (Applause.)—Hs was so tool it WM*
tens. Hie adversaries were high on the poll, hafbeiwas
iothiag Acted at it. Igloetioaseriag, like
was sot deckled ley Wm beet two or three rounde,bilmalla
leaped yet to give these a keseklowa
H• veld& bmre fiftema numb yet.—(Btaeo, hem.)
.—As MOW dePeallwa as *dr ...Naas aid We
Whim. so be mood mash ups_ his Selmbla44-
(Much laaghlag.)--Frest the aemebor it pia*,

apt,
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voted fur therm and notwithstanding the pilau o'r-
nerars candour in other respects, yet he ti ‘l•
guarded in speaking on this snlijecz. It
knotty he was
lieu
got the title he had the honour to have,
il
solved a meeting when he was high Sheriff, ea:l,4 it
the purpose of preparing an address to tarn oat °atm.
Miters. The truth was, he had received the thank, g
Mr. FON, and several opposition Members present, to
his conduct on that occasion. It was for his artist,
in seising and bringing to their merited pnnishnos;:
villains who broke into, and bona houses in s..
work, that he received this mark of his Soremirei
appro
imion. They were the ringleaders of a fr
rocions mob, and. their °hirers were not politim
but plunder. Ile never was disappointed of a Judy,
ship In India, fie never asked it, ..nd snook „,t
like it. With regard to the allusions made to tae
Manchester affair, he confessed he could not think tr...
Magistracy -anti Yeomen guilty, until they had bre-
proved to be so.—(l/isapproliation.)—people ought t,
wait until a proper inquiry could be to.ule.—(Whps
that be.)—Those that had suffered had their ressedio,
either by prosecntions or civil actions.— (" The (',ems
of Justice were shut; inquiry lass been refused is the,
House of rotumons.")—With that he had nothingraa,
He hail been a yeoman '26 years, and never on any 04
sion used snore force than was necessary, 'rhea 6 41
the fortune to be called upon to suppress aaydionik
Hr concluded by saying, that as yet half the eltdarouot.
not polled ; that he wontd poll to the last; aad me if
defeated now, he wortld collie again and again, na,"l,
for the sake of giving tfirm an opportunity of 'smile's*/
their elective franchise.—(Cheers.)—He would theses:,
remember their the insults or s!isi's
they put upon bins should be buried in oblivion.—(,dp.
phone.)
Te Meeting then dispersed about iii o'clock.

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STATE OF IRELAND.

An insurrection of a very general natant,'
very formidable description, exists in the tenths of
Oalway, Mayo, and Roscommon. It has extendullsif
to Clare, and, we are given to understand, it has hotj
shown itself is Westmeath. For the last few
ports have been circulated that the King's esuging
the county of Kildare hare evinced a similar dispel**.
That the flame, if not attested, is likely todseltill
other counties, there can be no reasonable
it must be met with energy and put down, is s pi*
tion from which there is no dissent. The seesolliri
accomplished the better for the ilovernmentaiir
people and that it will be accomplished spedilme,
but a Ribbonman, who allows his heart to be mai
away by a wretched enthusiasm—and an shoultsin
allows his head to he bewildered by the spectrosehree
lotion, can feel any doubt. The Ooveremeet,•Stlis
side the water, are not alarmed
_; the Ooyermoset se he
other side are not alarmed;—for they refuse& is this
moment of general dismay, the apphcatioe Aid they
had emitted of re-enacting the Insurrection *1
We give Lord Talbot's Administrative grestmelltfor
their moderation ; and, we feel Hole dssht, fiat his
Excellency will put down the insurrection, 11.
called, in a shortperiml, without any receneaceellier
to military law 'eon Insurrection Act.
But, when the insurrection is effecteati rat tow
pletely enished—when justice • shall have lief Odom.
and the peasantry are complicit° return to thellhelMl
fled diets rani ilstins. *eta to tints.s....ssiss. ins*
vernment can no longer blink—s questiou wbidhb
gentry of the west must entertain—a quedisell:
Parliament and the nation moot diocese. This
relates to the ceases of the present disturbs Is
state of the Irish peasantry, and to the
which it may be deemed necessary to apply. It Al
occur to the tioverninem—it will occur to Parliassiis
it has been already familiar to those who have Ikea
the matter a manly and enlarged consideration, dot
population of Ireland has increased ie a ratio i
exceeding that of any other part of thermipirs.
may have been the causes of this pireartmeseshiht.
not to our view of the question. We see iratielhdash
the fact. it is no longer a question, how we are teAy
the popnlation—with a view to posterity? Tica
time criers, and must he provided for. Bat
lords in the west are still entleavotring_to keep**
rents at the prices, an effort absolutely Minim's, It
we take into consideration the Cremen&om
ag fY
rrearicinflatunrwel ce
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losses
havhPreatioreuhnads.urseAtialeuirnec°tidodinbrisylgultbYaodttehhteoparehlliithe:
hat 1M
leads have generally fallen from b 0 to 1011 pee talon
Not so, however, with regard to the peasantry.
little con-acres have been screwed np higher Bo fkif
can bear. They are not so high as they wets Mg
the war—but as they were compelled to take. dish I
starve, they pay propurtinnably a greater pries bad
plot oa which they plant their little potatoes-4880M
hove hoed, ins most instances, the price gives it
Its ems species of land by the geothiessw Mot.
AM le Ibis the payment of tithes, which wow*std
telth paililist seventy last year, and open mats int
Illthettoemoillilered titheable. There are aopessatelh
Europe—not even excepting, the Russian hefts W.
miserable than that of Ireland.
We are quiti aware that Parliament ems de id*
tie. They cannot pass a sumptuary
.law, with e
to rents—they cannot affix a maximum eat
es .f life. and they cannot, perimpe•Aldli
system that would please both parties is
Calaaanatioll of ;Rhea. In one word.
to war with the landed interest and the
twee a discuseion on the state of the naidell—she
*ion of Ministers fully and unerinissiodly grim
and embodied in resolutions, would OM AI
force, and would I* attended with as Ad ea it
landlords of leveed, that would induce thestil
to consider, whether, when they are obliged,
oseeesities of the times to lower their null Wm
considerable farmer, they should set ohn all
great abatements to their poorer teamster-4e 1111.
awe whe are called freeholders, and to Wheel
strength they are isdebted for their cooseirseete law
couscous. This, they may depend on ib *HT 100
moue or later—and the sooner they de it, thtbll'il
will be for themselves, as well as for Orel,
With respect to tithes, if there EaasK be- s Wei
lion, it would be well that s revisits* of **WIZ
take place r that a similarity should be everiwilitil
!ished that the amount of tbs tillage tithrobb°7l
he particularly specified;. sod that the locemasir,,
the parishioner shouldbe made amisminted. AO or
relative rights and duties.
CONNAUGHT.—The time for half meawatfoolillii.
porising, with regard to the greater peg Ott:
time has chart only horse sad fest.isg
him ales to the west. Oa
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est hopeless. He of employment to have recourse to it. Th. " 0
oteasion--that of in le ouglr,— woule
that did he mean to say we were entirely indebted to
e loved. that lie General had talked much of the services of
te' example which
fur all the glory of nation !lad Protestants as
hisesiunr,eatnlidettend,
.sts.—(Cheers.)— in it ?—(Applanse.)—lle did all he could fur theta, t