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VI. Q.

" At that time the Petitioner and hi. father made
n• answer to this conimunicatios, bat afterwards en-
derstanding that by acceding to the proposed terms,
they should be considered guilty of a collusion in
and subject to all the penalties attached to the origi•
trasisectiou, the Petitioner determined to purse*
the coarse which he has adopted ; and in consequence
the Petitioner's father soon after, on the 15th of
October, gate notice to the H fate Gentleman,
that it was the Petitioner's inteution to bring the
matter before the Hasse of Commons immediately
on the meetieg of Parliasamst. • After this, there was
a corresposidesee betties. the parties, which did not
close until tße sth of December, at which period no
change had taken place in the IP;titioeer's determine.
tine. Such, Sir, are Ibe facts and allegations con-
tained in this Petition; which facts and allegations
the Petitioner says he can prove by documents, and
by the evidence of respectable witnesses. He prays
that the House will take the subject into their most
serious consideration; that they will vindicate their
own detour, secure the freedom of the elective Fran.
chise, and administer jostles towards those who have
been engaged its the practices of which he complains."
—(hear, heir!)
The Petition was thew brought up and read. It
elated the circemetsecee of the transaction already
described by the Gaullist Officer, prayed for as es.
quiry into the allegations which It contained, end
pledged the Petitioner to prove their troth at the bar
of that Hasse.

Oa the Notion that the Petition Amid lie en the
lablo,

M 6. WINDHAM QUIN rose, end olds an mom
and feeling which instantly commanded Hs* p,.(. m+
attention of the House, spoke to the following *fa
fact :

6' Mr. Speaker.—Liserg as I have had the boniest.
el a test in this Hoeft, 1 have very seldom olfered
myself to yeer notice; and et this 1 am tare, that
have uese► done so *idiots experiencing much pain
and embarteisment. Bet, Sir, I shook' not tell the
truth wets 1 ant now to sty, that 1 bare leaked for.

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ward with the greatest maim) 1.. 'id.; 1004' CO'.'
I might rise In m. place, 11114 'lettere to tee If
of Commons, that the chew.. it. 1..41 p..•i.„..; ••-
orterosnded•nd malirloes es were veer a• mottle. . •
be pion-A no a P.blle Assembly. or ad .or
aimed at the happirsees ii••d were of an iti•ileoln -
[Hew, hear, !)—Sir, I do in,.‘t untie; vocally io
scornfully declare, that that Petition dun not it AK
the language of truth. If the Bout, will indolent.,
for a fear moments, I will make a plain statement of
facts. It is distinctly admitted, tom the circentstancee
detailed in the Petition here no refe•enr• chooser
to the last -Ittectinn. After that Blertlon, I, in the
@Smite of the undoubted right which I postetsed,
removed the Petitioner tenet the legation of Clerk
of the Peace. Si,, I will net-pretend to conceal that
there was another Gentleman who appeared to me In
have stronger claims to that situation, end to be
better calculated to fill it faith witting, to Ihd
Public The qeestion has nothing to ao wi•b pea
litics—it has nothing to do faith the politics of ars
County of Limerick ; for bolt the Petitioner and
the Gentleman by *how he was socceaded, uni-
formly sepported me from IMP first moment at which
I became a Canditlate fair the representation of that
County. Sir, if the Petitioner had been an old ter.
tint of the üblic—if be had been for many pert
engaged I. discharging the duties of a laborious of-
fice, see case would have been very different. list
ohst ii *be fart 1 It is true that she Petitioner held
the situation of Clerk of the Paseo for the County
of Limerick for 15 years. Bat will the House be-
lieve that be Is now only three•and.tweety years of
age, add consequently that he must hoot been op.
pointed when Int wes @beet retest or eight years old!
—(lleorl)—Th• troth is, that the Petitioner
munched a single fonetiort of his nalre. Beery thing
was den: by • depety—an ondetling cloak. I do not
pretend to conceal eiyopirtiost. that that importurtS
'slice in ttsestino might to he discharged in torsos br
the individual by whom it is !it'd; and in mains the
appointmest which I halt made of a soccelsor to thll
Petitioner, I did select a Oontlemen who could die.
charge, and Wit, does discharge, the derive of that
effice.—[//earl]—Sir, I hate already (aid, that the
Petitioner al aoys supported me In my elections. Tn.
wards hint, therefore, I enfold bate no unkind feel-
logs. When he found that he west• Ile removed, he
told mo with an emotion in which I em riot ashamed
to say, I sympothited shit him, that it weeld be his
ruin were no other pi ',vision ensile for him. lie recta
went so far as t• say, that he would blow oat ins
brains. Under the impression of this &titration, ma
the part of the Petitioner, I was pupated to feel that
fell feme of seteatinos by perenov who were !w-
-rested for him, *bat probably some provision might
be mode for him oat of the emolumersts of the see.
tester to his elfin; en idea that bud not previ-
ously ..tarred to myself. My first step, &rho re•
ceiving the seggesti•es, was to take fool advice, ie
order to ascertain. "Nebo. they could be properly
complied wit b.—Uker!)—Beieg eatisfiod theta cow.
pliance *Rh them would not be against the law.
ateintoniteted to the Petitioner that I was happy to
inform him e• arrangement was made in conformity
to hit wishes ; sod l believe I added that I hoped he
would not blew hie belting out, a. the provisiee, the
aeloont of 'which I slated, ea. rester then be bed
perhaps entertained any eapetstrion of. Whoa I
me* that commenicatioe, I very little espected the
answer that I received. • What !' said my Cone.
sp••ndent, • I take 4001. ! No. Give me 3001., sod
that l shell consider solidest.' Now, Sir, when I
state to the Meuse that the valet of the office is gees.
doe Is not more than half that which in the Panitlnak
It is described to be, I am sure they will think that t
should not have been justified Is listening to Ibis ea•
reasonable deniantl.--(llear, hear !)—The Pell.
veneer says he refused to accede to the proposition
which I made to him. In a few days after the oc-
comae* of the cireuniessiees which I have mentioned

I distinctly understood from the friend. of the Peti-
tioner, that be was completely satisfied with the sr-
rangerunt which 1 had proposed, and with that en.
demanding 1 went over in a few days to England,
• bstainiog from taking any decided step on thesobject
until the Petitioner should have ample time to satisfy
himself with respect to thermion( of his claims. Us
my rotors to Ireland, I received a letter from Mr.
Carew Smyth, urging and entreating se in the most
suitors masonry, to allow him to wait se me in Doh-
lin, on the subject of the arrangement respecting the
Having merle up my mind on that sob.
jut, 1 wished for no farther discussion upon it,
bet 1 replied to Mr. Carew Smyth, that [should
certainly be happy to wee him, bat that I was
completely determined with respect to the subject
on which he wished to communicate with
Notwithstanding this intimailem, Mr. Carew Smyth
persevered in his resolution of calling on me, and the
'object was discussed by us over led over again. Sir,
the Huse is told he the Polities+, that Mrr Carew
Mayth sobtregoeorly delitemd to tor, for my appro..
▪ a•minate of oar cooverwitima on that ores*
elem. The fact is, that Mr. Ogre, Smyth Pent under
cover to woe • minute (I dare tray that which is
gamed in the Potidoss), and in a few boors after the
receipt of it, when I bad teed it, and seen what it
was, I took the trouble to go myself to Mr. Carew
Smyth, to give it to hius,and to toll him, which I did,
in lire presence of a third person, that it did not con-
tain my seetlarent.; that I would not base any thing
to do with it ; that Mt. Grady was free to vote foe
whom he pleased ; that 1 would make no such eur-
pact with him ; shot M was • free u alr.'—[lfeer,
hear, Ater! j— rho Petitioner says I adopted tint
minute. Hew could 1 adopt it when I returoed it ?
How could 1 adopt it talus I signed It, end retained
at least a copy ? !fir, 1 gave it back to Mr. OM".
Smyth, and 1 kept no eopy it.--(flear, leer,
hear !)--The nest day I word down into the country.
The Petitioner came to ma, and said that be had
been informed by Mr. Carew Smyth, that I attach-
ed to the &nubby ehlch be was to receive she stip,.
lotion that he stanld vote for me. A neighbouring
Gentlemen was with me, and la the presence of
that Gentlemen 1 told the Petitioner that if Mr.
C. Snarls had so informed him, Mr. Carew Smyth
was utterly wrong, and that i.e ha& no authority
Ifrom me for such 4 commardicatien. I told him that
ho must not give credit so any ••eli stotofteet ; that
I would make no such compact and that he wet
free so vote for whom he pleased'. When the Peti-
tion*, premed the subject farther I would not iitte.i
to him. And offer ibit, Sir, I am to be breeght

bore. and 'reused rif hating 'tooted into thig corropt

I Ntaabt.—[Heer, hear, hearn—On a auhs►quent
tlay I bad a ron•m•nicalion toad• to me from lb.
nra,••l (dont) of the Politianar, that the latprmion

tin t.it mind was, that ellitellgh I left him at liberty
tip sots for • howl ►• pleased, that permissi Wes

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capable .f bring construed hit. en itripi irailon foreign
to ill •pporent tenor. I immediately replied that I
wanted mid hie woo; Mot bei might vole for *hem

be phew,' ; and that if Its wort• to sot• in iny ss►'
far. it It sold not tnak• the ►lightest difference.—
[llear, hear, hear!) —Bo, Sir, it is alleged in
this Petition I did ibis *peke the fear of a Pe►-

lliamesiary cosmic)? inl .. my candect. Tha Hun
►hall josige wit► what troth Ibis alleption is
aide. I declare to 'bees own •y houses., es 111
CP014116411 and a Member of Partialness, that et

the period ht question I had um, hoard the moat
distant intinestion of such a thing.---111ear, kser,
hear q—Mr. Carew Smjth never hinted it to use,
net did say one else. Sir, the Petitioner says, that
he rejected with scorn and indignation (those are his,
words) my offer to him, and that hi expressed his
determination In bring eh, matter before Parliament.
He was indi:nant at the insult offered to his own Be-
nner and the honour of Par!iatnent I Sir, if t►e
Hnes• ~ill allow me. I will rood the letter which, I

remittal frost the Petitionor in answer to t►e mese-
amities smile to hie.— -r Hear, hear, haw !)—lt is
dated tso 10t% of Octolsor, sod is as follows:

Urea use.-1 have lea lonlacior •ery liaberwat air tom-
rericaird to me. I accept it I r myself. Abilene 1 man in
the lint lostemo comas my ceases, that being a compliment I
ma,t pay him.
I am. mar Mr. mJar's. die.
THOMAS WILLIAM GRADY.
Thins was the iedigestion-this was the score
which the Petitioner affected to feel at my proposi.
tine.- [Hear. hear, Acer :J—Sir. I have al-
ready distinctly disclaimed the imputatiow attempt-
ed to be east epos me. I have stated that when I
. said I ',paid bate nothing to do with the vote
of the Petitioner, • third person was easiest, whose
evidrece will bear me out in that assertion. Bat,
if the Ileums will allow we, I will let them into the
steed hist", of this transaction. The ostensible ob-
ject of. the Petioles*, and his friends is evident ; I
milt show she Hoare what their reel object is. The
father of the Petitioner lives at Boulogne, heroine
some time at. quilted Ireland for reasons which it is
not nee aaaaa r for me to mention.-[A latich.]-0a
the 19th of October-and mark! I bats stated, that
on the 10th the Petitioner wrote to we the letter
which I hate jest reed, 'swede@ of hi. eatisfactino.
Oe the 19th of October I received the first of a series
of threatening letters from the_ father of the Peti-
tioner. It Is couched in these terms-
Ste.- Umterver .on have a copy of a latter urines by we
to a leatioa MemSer Onnositinn. with whoa" 1 have beets
for the law wr.k is 444t00, who b.c furns.ll4 me with ea.
',net. rod orreedenib from the Commos' J•sealati. far she pet.
pewee mailing ate to rweed In the wawa I have sailer-
tales. ..d in •Ikhe nctriee I hitve retied, comietme m,self.
I den Gtr •Ite idea threatemsig-LA lasse6J-bui as I
hale ones due berate la rise adaninage, I offer yens edgier:
I ndel-e•na to restore to my .an hi. •.fike—EA twagh,ese hear.
Lehr t3,ip iabkh sae have eeptierd tied to appoint him
telt frt late hvifiee tbe 1.1 i.f rat immure. I hope seer mo
saner will ha, me that 7..0 meals to take septicsree. If I
receive ter miaw o I si.ad contact that yea re and act
tererdiegiy. Taw ...ie..
THOMAS GRADY.
46 The letter subjoined, setleddressed to a leadiug
Member of the Opposition, paints mit le very Mark
colour,. It compares me le the Agape of ale and
Death, standing at the gates of 11•11-(4 laugh. end
cries of Name, Nome! is the midst of which Sir R.
:slit, It is ckarly *ot tepsell.l-.4 lead
Ituogk.)-Tees he says- (Cells of head(,, Keatll).-
I shall now teed the whole of the Letter, though I
bad intended cooly to read these ports of it which I
conceived to be most materiel its iliestrating the mo-
tives which gals rise to this charge. Thee he says-
' Thee night Mr. Carew Smyth gave we a copy of the
famous and memorable Minute, which when you de.
livered into hie bands you delivered to him the death.
warrant of your political ralsteece.' The Horse
would see pretty clearly from this, what were the
motives which gee* rise to ibis cheeps. it Is not for
me to say this charge originated In a conspiracy
'goblet me, for the ;serpent of eliciting from me
Cie MSc* of Cloth of the l'eace ; it is for me to
state the facts, and to leave to the Hoes, to (bawl
the proper inferences from these facts. Ile goes
on—' A Member of tie common note came over
here to me (that is, to Boulogne), in older to
discos. with me the othrr matter at large, and brin4.
log ess over an encnei•gPmptit from the greet 'bony
of the Opposition.'-[Lough.)-Sir, 1 shook' not
do jetties to ter} self, did I not now state to the
/louse whit was the feeling produced on my mind by
mach a denunciation of the hostility of the Opposition
lowerds me. What meaning did ibis assertion con-
voy but this?-line have made yourself obnoxious,
perhaps, to the Opposition Members of the /loose,
end they will gladly avail themeless of every °peer-
leeity which presents itself to ran you down. No,
Sir, I looked with contempt on the threat, and the
calm: miens allogatieoa which it conveyed against that
part of the linrase towards which I am politically op.
posed. I bad tech confidence in the jestice sod int.
partiality of the Hooeurable Members *Holed to,
tivelfl felt, if my life and litseeor were at stake, I
Weld as soon pot myself ea be Opposition side of
the Hesse, is Gentlemen on the other side, as on
the verdict of a Jery, or as on any body of men on
earth.- f Lord cheerios, from all parts of Ikon.]
-He thee, Sir, goes cm to tell me what college be
intends to pursue. 6.1 will first call theattealiMl
the British Public to the 'abject by letters Is de
l'uhlic Jeernals. I will keep the atteetioss of ilmt
Public alive to she sehjest,,by.peregesplis from time
to lime; and this cats be deseby me with the greatest
ease, sitheet my Mini's* from my fire-aide, he see.
srpienee of the arrangements, +Mob l have made for
that purpose.' At the close of ibis letter. my duty
a grace was intended from the 112th November to the
5.h December. The Moose will see what, Wally
situation, I should have been guilty of. had I ao.
retied to the ~tier of the Petitioner. Where was,
flirt', the regaed7for the parity of Parliament. end
the fear of violariag its pain:eget', of which he beasts?
artilerlef this letter said lie woad sail till
the bib of tieceesber, before he took anj step in
the busier" Before I stale to the Haase what
vet tree ratess.which I took in commit:gime of this
le.tsr, allow ina to ishoeire, what step I might have
t,ken, if had the level cause to fear the de.
t-ot;ntien of 'he woo.. I had it yet its my !miaow
tr,:: to ibt situation %Lie:. ass