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INSTRUCTIONS ACCOMPANYING MR. FOX'S DI&
PATCH OF JULY IS.

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66 ON ONE HAND. 64 ON Tilt OTHER HAND.
" The cession of Sicily is into- " The allowing the French to
lerable, because the retaining it recede from theirs/41nel basis,
WWI proposed to us as an induce. so far as to sabsti an ex-
ascot for relinquishing our fa- change In the ease of Slcilyonay
vourite mode ()forge, iation: If become less objectionable, if
it be ceded, the following dill- such a change be at the declared
rulties will besides occur:— desire of Russia, and should
" rosewhere to find an equi- lead to an arrangement more
Talent ?—au equivalent for a suitable to the views of that
possession we can keep, in spite Power. In such case, provided
of the French, ought to be of compensation be mode to the
the same nature likewise. How Ringo( Naples, we shall have
can ibis apply to Dalmatia, or given up well-anderstood Eag.
other places that have been lish objects for what weds**
mentioned ? Nay, even strict- to be ill-understood Roden ob.
ly, to the ex-Venetian ferrite- jects;but in casesorconledmakei
ties, where even there seems to there is nothing to be assumed
be little chance of obtaining ? of in 'ache transaction. If wt{,
"Secondly, It name posoinle held out, It Is probahle Res
to surrender to the enemy the will make a separate peace,
only remaining portion of the which means weshall soots id
King of Naples's dominions, ourselves completely donna'
without obtaining some ado- of all continental corniest*, sr
quate,or 'tritely adequate,enm- inauence whatever. Hanover'
pensatioa for that Prince.— will remain in the power of the
Such an applieatioa ofthe Haas enemy, peehahly guaranteed to
Towns appears absurd upon Prussia, and we can have ao
the face of it ; and till further pm :Usk ineaneof recover**
explanation shall have been possessioo so esesatlal to the Ise-
made, one caa hardly conceive nour of the Ai% mad teatime, ,
any country upon the Adriatic than by conqueringsease putt&
l)u.11.•• tirst of September a ill be published. Part 11. of where thektaid Prince can be in the world which Frame wadi AN OR [WS AL AN I) SPLENI)ID WORK, ENTITLED any degree of wearily. accept as an equivalent fee tie
.1308.11 Ea ANTIQUITIES of ENG- Thirdly, The distance of !Acctontte. Of thho can Ise
TILE
LAN asid SCOTLAN I), delineated.. CompritOne Malta from any friendly sous- no prospect, and sliimitithuris.
einoom of the Archilectiire, geulpture, INNS Other Vesliges I,f
Time, to the Union of the Two try, and consequently from any fore mother all hots of be.'
former Aes, f, um the earliest
Cr... oecompanied aids descriptive Sketches, Ilineraphi. Cerlaia MM. of seppil. may nourable peace as cent.
cal Remarks. arid a brief ilistorv.of the principal Events that render the porsessiou of that ever.
have occurred in this interesting Part of Great Britons. Island to us extremely difficult
Et•
The whole of the Engravings will be executed b. Mr. John
at! e . precarious.reig. from Paintings made expres.lc for this Work by Mr.
George Acosta, A. IL A., Mr. k. Nasinyibs aad Ale L. Cleu- " Under these circumstances lam of epinion that,
sell.
at any rate, time ought to be gained and that otir ewe
Part 11. catmint Views of Lanereost Priory g Interior of s
Woolworth Plersnirage Waikato-oh Castle; Part or the lc. deavour ought to be, if possible, to make some leo
terior of the
Bout* JE.ist View CasalofeJedburgb Aat Newtle ;
y Carlisle Cathedral; and rangement, which, though exceptionable, nicht off.casbbe.
Published by Messrs. last_ignsein, Hurst, ltreb. Ores,. and\ thin to US the two grand poirits:--lianovert r-41 ebe
Brown, Potermstet-cow ; Wm. Miller, Albemarie•street ; preservation of-oar Russian connectiou.
Constable and Co. Edinburgh; J. Greig. Chapel-street, Pet- 44 N. B. Corsica, &Mini*,
tooville.
Of when may he hod, norm, might all, or any of them,
Part I, price IN- 6d. the Medium Qlntle er with Proof &acing such an arranpment."
araprosisse of the Ruch Ii leper-royal Quart% rria lie. (Sew July 316-)1106. wish fffillortele?

LORD YARMOU'IIPS
.. LETTi\ Ilr.-110CE.Riiitt ;rid Ifr. BROUGHAM. • •
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TO THE EDITOR.
, -.- d Oar Readers will forollect an attaek lately made
I Your Paper of yesterday, which I have just upon Mr. Brougham la the Time: Newspappx, ip. ~
I which that Gus:lemon was charged by Mr:WlCer-
_ shax,a. )ell, with bating grossly misstatedimetaiu parts of the
the head Foreign News, this extract from
on my return from Windsor, contains, under
' .1_• evidence, given by the latter in' the House of Gon-
e .
moum winch were afterwards expunged by order of
gem de Prosy, asserting, all inspuoant and sdinua-
the Committee. Mr. M'Kerretl not having published
teas a falsehood as any Mai ever disgraced the press :
•• Lova Vermeil* ilnd Ms worthy imirotivrae °babied tikir .the *deuce to which this clasp teems, we have:
way under the solernoleu at lively parole. Is -114""1 shat-
been at some pains to ',Nolo a sight of it ; and we are
Tee, they heft °treaded the delicate 'rottenest ef two*r .
now enabled to lay.
This a copy
publicationof tho ex
iungs the moreed evidence
Lord Yarmouth was &easel to set an ttrample,oo loch the before our-Readers.
fatal, as its maw is of the most elegted malt."
emote necessaryf because the evidence has been imperfectl
I have always avowed, both at 'Verde* 1111111 y
given-in some of the Provincial Newspapers, from
..As:2
home, my opinion, that the detentiatt of the ring which it was copied into our paper of Tuesday last.
lisb, in 1803, however cruel, by its being a measure We shall first insert a few
exissors from
the
eef.
never resorted to on former occasions, was jestifimb deuce or those svithesses who were examined relative
by the seizure of French property and French sob- to thedistress of themanufacturing poor • and lastly,
jests in British ports, before our Ambassador had the expunged evidence of M'Kerrell verbatim.
COMMITTEE OF THE WH
,maid to exercise the functions of hjs high *See at EXTRACT! FROM EVIDENCE, XAKEN BEFORE AOLE HOUSE, &c.
'Paris. This opinion left me :so pretest, however Mr. Jona Woo°, of Bolton in the Moon.
Q. In what state are the lower orders in Bolton at present I--
adtterable, for the breach of a parole of honest.—
A. In a most wretched mate.
&nee, however, a charge of its violation has been .. try long have yise
ou remember tbrolided there?—A. All mit lifte.ao.
brought forward in the French Papers, and repeated . .Do you remember that was a time of great scarcity T—A.
with various comments in the English, I am cote- It
;at the scarcky of ideas as great now as it was then ?
pelted to clear myself, which I shall do in a few A. tdo set think thescareity of provisions is as great now as it
words, premising, that I can support my assertion wasalthlesalere
swiss distr rmi_ii. There is.
by the original passports signed by the Freed Mi- Q. Had the people plenty of work at that time?—A. They
sister. bad plenty of work, and the wages were much higher; they
above double the price they are now
In May, 1303, the English in France were de- Were • . • • • • •
alared prisoners of war,,and as such gave their parole Q. What forme the principal food of the poor at Bolton 2
lof honour.—For several months I and many dithers A. Oatmeal and Potatoes.
Q. Howe they of late hod fell allowance of Potatoes?—A. A
were permitted to reside Arbsrever we please% till very art allowance.
the cruel disregard of some English Gentlemen to Q. Have they had 101 l allowance of Oatmeal?—A. A very
the comforts of their fellow-prisoners, occasioned
-.- ' Mani
allowance of
ant*: rshoo,
ILATT, of Saddleworth.
our being confined in fortresses on their effaci4g Q. Do roe retsi•
na. er how the poor were or in the years 1803
their escape. ;, and 1801 I—A. Yes! I recollect very well that provisions were
I had passed more than two *earl in the fort rather higher thee they are at present, but there was full work.
Q. Do you mesa that the distress .was nothing like what it Is
of Verdun, when I learnt that Mr. Foi had, atlllst ' new t—A. Nothing call.
command of the Prince of Wales, to whose gracious Q.. Has the food of the lower orders become limited in pro-
f—A. Very lamb so, and that of a low grain, a very
interference I am preud to owe my liberation from ' 11"rTied Indeed.
captivity; applied for and obtained my retort to ; Q. Do they frequently taste animal food now P—A. There are
England on parole of honour, to go back to France gre*
Q. ilapnclieberaw :lilt :71114 6na
I e it
atst aiL
erally ?LA. Oatmeal boiled I
whenever my return should be demanded. A si- ,in water, what wecall vulgarly oatmeal porridge; and if they
miler parole was signed by the Earl of Elgin and crocieet potatoes, or something at that kind for dinner, it is as
General Abercromby, and we sailed together from lior I IWw. informed them, by a Y better
thanarse minaaaalwolifictlill of em ecaenunfeetil :
Morlaix in May, 1806. Upon my being sent lack true, that be, his wife, nod all his children had to go to bed.
to Paris, almost immediately afterwards, by Mr. tagrhadmo:t'lLeverawasosolel i
aba f that
od
atmeal
and
another,wtater t
hat ic:et:limo
got
Fox, I demanded and obtained my releas3 from this some little oatmeal, and boiled it in Zater, flt is, to dip It in
parole, as a necessary preliminary to my being un- water instead of milk, or soy other liluid, with his food.
der the protection afforded by the Law of Nations to Q.
Am'
thelloaorr. Jpetteassniak
weaßouliitoev,iollf
coSitOetakgespro.
same
to
pay
I Diplomatic Agents. • their rents f—it. They cancel pay at all; I cansrak feelingly
Since it has thus become necessary for me to rimer .to that. I have a number of -reneges myself, an A cannot get
lo the year 1806, I take this opportunity of adding ana.eelicies did von begin io feel a difficulty in getting your
to the papers, then published, the instructions ac. runts?—A. lb the year tell
cornpanying Mr. Fox's dispatch of the 18th July... : yet)* silisaVilieaPPeara
distressed aneeaall r•Pley raver" et
of
the peon
gonebero
These instructions I owe it to myself to publish_ is , 47„,,, t.nuttn to ~,b theta to pay their rent; *am i bn„ wee
refutation of the charge once advanced, and now re. ' them sit down to dinner oat a dish of meal and mitt power,
tired, of having, contrary to the tenour of my in. ratlac"ione ata"l.4l.l"nagil.oosirtea'Ziranal and
afoatreqr before
them
1 and
struetions, produced his Majesty's full powers at a Q. No potatoes'— A I apprchend they byre bad a chime of ,
time when (22. d July) no choice remained but to do viatica; but posatoes are rodeo:, they sanest bay potatoes.
so or break off then egociation. It will, of course, eet ',l4,,,,PhPaireh„ ihrdiliinanitiStatelornilrooftmPLireo:";s:Z3titisisolas ainfireteetris.he
be remembered, that M. D'Oubril had then con- steam th.it inakci. me Suasion of the poor worse than it was
eluded a treaty, and that he used all the weight be- "M
Q. they have no wares to hey?—No! they have twit
longing to tire Minister of so great a friendly power, wages a buy (even if provisions were as cheep as farway. I
to obtain an official character to be attached to the they could not live em well, as to atford clothier and home rent,,
British negotiation. No obloquy could induce mos fraLrrovisions beteg so dear, they are iu a wretched state Is.
for obvious reasons, to make thiasiocument public se Estee... et gleam nt.'s ....avtsta., Esq. etpunged by order se
in 11306-7 ; it is new bareilets, and I have a right to the Committee.
Q. You are of opinion, hat the distress, as far as it has talks'
add it to the official papers of that ear. within pier own otaerva ion, is not so great now as It WIN 11011160
The story of M. de Clermont and the so' fr.bosi.. Months ago / A. most generally the distress has bees tow
in 1811; is private, and of no moment, no. should clailied see af in districts, where, to my knots ledge, it does not mist.
I notice it, but that the pen is in my hand It is getnerallyemease;leagli attined c:Liens at low Laura
wages. a Buhere tthrunPilneal*
entirely unfounded, never having received that or iaell_...ariog tow it• and districts. we have a great lumber at turbo'
any other mark of the French Emperor's recollec- ";...xeceses. by dye wry
people,. and I believe they have been spirited on to their
Mocking conduct of, I am sorry to say,
tion or approltatioo, then or at any other Hine. I great people, at the great public meetings iarhis town, as their
I have the honour to be, Sir, conduct is reported in the public pape-s.N
1 Q Do you mean to Aiv that the motet manufatturers in those
Your obedient humble servant, districts, are the turbulent persons to whom you allude?—A.
London, A pg. 13, 1312. YA R MOUTH. INo! I do not.
P. S. It is usual to direct one's letter to some friend ; mans-
factures, you tcl;9oll4ldlrralsithesermilitlients eg°l"l".ll,sothet.'"'
who will give it publicity ; I have taken a shorter . Q. To what class of. permaii do you alto, e, as having by their
course, that of sending it to the press in the first is 1 behaviour cowed these cosapininls ? A. A set of retitle mat
stance. I are to be found ie all manofacteringtoism, of aa intriguing se-
ditious spirit, that like homer to speed their time in Ale-houses,

at the eipasee of others, than to hors fur their own bread.
The witness was directed t. withdraw..
The witness eves- again called in.
Q. Do you know that the manufacturers do not gala half
what they did tweivo ninths age?—A. Myself sad neer a.
nufacturers do not gain as such moneys but I most , esitively
, do assert, that the men get more money now than they did
twelve months ago, and is every part of Great Britain where
j they are employed is the Cotton trade.
Q. Do you mean to represent that in the Cotten spinning to
i general, the men are mow gaining as much as they used to do at
!any former period of time /—A. Most certainly not. They
I gained some three or four years ago, three times as each as they
ought to gain.
Q. When did the reduction take plaeel—A. The
took ce is 18k1.
i Q. Do you mean to re resent, that the men gaits now as moth
as they meek to gain)—A. It is imposible for me to owner
that question, because it depends pima a man's way of thinking,
bet they gain as much as 1, think they net to gall.
Q, You made your own estimate of what they aught to gain.
when you said they gainedthree times as much as they aught/
—A. Yes. I meant with refereuve to what they ought toga's for
their own comfort, and the goad of minty.
Q. Then yen think the Coatis spinners mad Conn weaveei
' gain as mach now, as they might to gala in net stains its No
tiety 10—A. These moms initiate Bars r Canoe vinous sell
Coma tosuissfaet urns. are a distinct Ilse of boohoos.
Q. og wtstehewe yea lir Catteirsplanett.
Q. Do the Cotton weavers gain as asoch, os person la that
line of life ought in gain l—A. 1 think net.
Q. They do not Oa so swum, at it. weld be ogee to society
for theta to gain /—A. I beg kit• • to state certainly, that the
common people in this couatry. from the very high wages gives
for seven years previous to 188,i, get wages. that to fact, unhing-
ed all.that order of society ; ion that they are accustomed to
taivrieti,that it is diflicak to wean them from. lan "perfectly
eonviimeo, that twaato..ave yeas. ay. the people in Inc limo li-
bation, wend havaboen contemn with the some wages. •
Q. la whit maasier do you etemilder, that the high wages of
the poor Mute nokiamed society i'—A. Because they . haire got
iota 'whits totally innersole to their situation in life,
Q. TO their low situation ?—A. I tie me call is lo*. It is a,
very respectable simation.
Q. Wltat-lazaries do you Mode to, ai lowing bees Weight hi'
dime wages witais the mm 6 of these. pour people which It
would be dangerous' sacestp, be these to ban / . iron. beg
bare to Menthe panic:War sitaiitiese.o the towns et Glasgow
and T4o mate. of wad prier's 181.1 d, was so extra's.,
-gent. that I should +oppose *pea ailuaday, going tat'Airch, you
would see two-or three thous end Orlin silk stalitingv. and pea. '
Italy as nosy rouged. The very best tees of the Vast kali
Company were not good easugh.far them. Their whale tire
of Ore wan upon the same system.
ti....
r,Tbe Review of the 10th Hussars is to hike peace
:A' es Hounslow Heath. Ilk Royal' High.
NW the 111 Wist Risaws, wiU be on the grelend• at
`'"i'd and • and-the P"

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tz_llanoser, and the twolovo clock ; and as h•r M CIES! if and -the atm- It is satisfaatory to us, bows
mnectiou. CIPPEI will h•tiotmit with their presence' a guard of
Majorca.. and Mi. hoot* to he firuisbcsi by .she uss presence; who
ens,
Support tkodoctrioe
ens, ho maul to pro• mil! se koala Ole gasaaad, bistoad a ~. the tsd Liibt numbs'', romptotiostho 'mint
‘11.„0111,gisullli ordarod. TLi nedfora of the Govitraisant iaa odoiogiromois s
Mbe ameagyagasskootg,' • ass a dootassatin of War, aod
• •