The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-05-09 00:00:00

HOtSE OF COMMONS. Mosove. MAY S.

Culotte' BAGWELL presented a petition from cer-
tain Distillers and Brewers of Cashel, praying to be
relieved ftusa the arm now paid for licenses —Laid on
the table.

Woof. Tss.—Mr. S. WORTLEY przsented
t:on Irons the Merchants, Manufactwe:s. Ise. in the
neighbourhood of Huddersfield, f..r a repeal of the
duty on foreign Wool. Ihe .tfeet of the ditty. they
stated, was to drive espital out of the 4:pantry. He
understood that a Noble Filend of his was to propose
the rqe.il of this duty, and therefore he would not
trouble t 4. Hon.r an: further.
Lord Mi LION asked the Seeretary of the Board!
of Trade if it was the intentlot et- then ierrerl
pose tbeespeabeltirdbey iewmeitititeitie;' If it wad,lrel
should be h !ppy to leave the enessurein their handsel
it not, he should give notice of a lilatilDn to that abed.
Mr. ROWNS4)N an.swered; dale was sun stare
that it was the intention of MinVtera to propose any
melaiire of this nature.
Lord .HILTON thew gave notice that he would, on
to.murrow (this day) so'uiiight, more for blot to
bring in a Sill to repeal the duty on foreign Wool!
lately itopq.eil by that /tome.
El.errioe peti!ions were received ,
us- the Speal4...r from the Crown-uth.e in Ireland—the
oni• ut an undue return for the tun of
ua' .11 a is ordere.: to he taken into conlidera•
tio.. uu .1..• :Mb of May; and the other against the
return fin the town of Drogheda.—Urdsned to be taken
into consideration on the t.th ut June.
A petition was presented agsin:t the ri turn for Do-
roughbridge, which was ordered to be considered un

the kr of Jun
AnJth.rr was presented against return for Had-
dington, which was ordered to be cons:de!ed on the
5t i ut J
Lard iLIVE lad on the table papers rehting to
the Ectablished Church in Irelsnd.—Ordered to he
'I he Aceuunss laid un the table the 3d of May, re-
, lative to the Cucleitned Prize Mowy, were ordered to
be printed.
lIF. ME CHANTS' PETITION.—Mr. BARING rose,
prt-su ant to notice, to present a petition, wlinsti, he
said, was signed by a most reepet•table body of men—
the 31erchants, of the city of Lotion ; and whether he
considered the weight of the intlividulls from whom
it emanated, or the state of th► country when it was
presetted, he should regard it as one of the must ini-
portaut subjects that est r cAue tinier the considera-
tion of the House. The general ln•ereet which was
manift•sted on the subject t.t tbi€. petition, justified
him in presuming that the country regarded It with
the utmost uneasiness. it now became imperative on
Parliament t.i determine what remedies ought to be
applied to the existing evils, or to determine whether
or not the evils were copal+. of any remedy at all.—
For his part he appr2hendecl that the rase was of a
mixed description: He admitted, that taut h of the
distr•ssof the country arose out of circumstances wholly
out of the reach of a remedy, but }et, cm the other
hand, much good was to be etre:ted by the intert.es!-
lion of Parliament, and their attention to the subject.

The persons who signed the pttititni had not in view i
the protection of any particular ease, for they were
all tau experienced and well hifornie i to sepptoe that
commerce could flourish ins comity.: where the manu
facturing and agricultural branches were deprmtael.--:1
(Hear '.)—When the distresses of the cottstry were
urged upon the consideratiou of the Hoare, it wet a
common Ammer tv hear thrt these distresses arose front
the transition from war to pence. But in the &tb year
of react to which we now arrived, the cannily, so far
from being relieved front the effects of that transi-
tion, esp• rienced an aggravation of he distrcsset.
It was singular enough. that white every country
in Europe reeirtered from the eenseqtrenves of the
late straggle, this country should be the only one
that was 'lingering irs, embarrattinr.::, anA that

classes. He wished it was in his power to procure a
umnedy fog this state of things. he looked upon the
country to he in a state of hangout, af:cr her eatraor.
dinary efforts. She experienced attexampleA success
in every steissrtn.sat ut industry, and never were such
strides tris,lt i t itup.overnent itt every hr3.iteh than
were made by roglstli alluring the last tiftv
,years.
The men t) the commerce, ut the world w:ts is
her poser n, and every effort to &owls uuly waived
still more ;4 secure it. Exit tutted a 4 she was after
those elorts, it was inctunbess on Pa tiament to seek

toretell, the effects sf reurn to 3 In7-e. n:ltnral
c . of itisrt, au! if her cousuiere:wsi not tratskd
nt,Ll lottersti by the Parnstnent, it mist nut only be
ret tr.s.ed is its yrJwtti, bu I.oinistely perish alY:Te-
the:. '1 he to du which was lust to Enelani,

per 4. I itwlf or•.r ti.e ,outt,rie, of ttu wort!, ani in
pro/ ortion event us competition which we had
-0 en, ounter, the state of oar tr a It ought to be w2t;lt-

et! with tare an! eireutuipection. Tile great point,
thee, %illicit the petitioners wishe,l to urge, was a re-
earrewe to tee old principles, i•t which the COTIMatt•
eial strength of this country wa* first foundeii, an 3 af-
trrward reared, and t.l this part of the petition ht
besoui, ht the earnest c Julia& ration of the Hoese. Th re
were soma reliectiates conne.:ted with the subjrct, to

which he beep!, the attention of the House. While we
were depete.l of a great i•roportion of our commerce,
we were:lft led with a great debt, the iujurious effect
of whit h was aggravated by the unfortunate departure
(race' oar eurreney. it was painful to him to be oblitTed
to recur to this shbiect: hnt lie was bound to state,
that he r:pir.led with great despondency the late mea-
sutes which were adopted ftir the tei-trery of the cur-
rency. What was the couseiltienee That nearly
one fintth :19 anionnt. had been added by the 'evolu-
tion of the currency tom orzat part of the former debt.
Tak;uc the price of gold, as it was at peewit, to'be
3/. 17e. Midi, it was nits evident that a poand note
now ....as a ditfernt thin; from n hit a Venud note was
wh.-,1 the debt was cetcr.seted. '1 hr alteration of the
curr;t:tte likevrite aggravatel the burden of the t .xer,
us we..i as the irtiurietts etteo t?..! torn 1. •11.3. In
ileum istrtwithetanu.n!.... the prat,iiiez:es et prospotity
which had been so rel.:ate:lly ht.... J. he Leheved that
slit the apprehensions of ne erc:.Teft nhartnist were now
realized. With respect to the Corn Lawt, he strnld
sMte, t neither Or, petitioners oar himself recom-
wade t the system of the Caen laws fitocid be
atis.,ht would sib-,
t his %minims of the psillo4l-..those laws wool
nee- r •r .e. is trui7l not irritate the totals cf the,
people Lipittninicesserseyoil it c irssi nse ekose respite. but
be recocuucerolad to Perliansent to consider, wacthe. or
not the agriculturists 11.0 bran mietaken in theithiewsi
upon this question, aunt whether or net it was possible
for the price of the protinee of the country to be main-
aired at a certain amount by ahy Act of Parliament.
He firmly believed that it c..tuld not While admitting
the impropriety of slizt ursing such a topic as this, when
nu practical barite. meat was in contemplatioo, be could
not help isLiervine.ihat nothing was .site absurd! is po-
litical economy than the notion ot putting ea./ part sal
the people in opposition to another in interests. In
alliidiur to a recent i‘Sioc iation turined Ca the purpose
upholding the arriculteral interests exclurively, he
ihonld say nothiny of the pawns who formed It, but
he etas pentiaded that the attempt on their part to
show by statistical calculation', how much more ins-
,
portant one part of the pewit of the kingdom was than
another, could only emanate hum individual( who wets
capable of potting toured the. impudent tarts oral
which !hey founded their ridiculous theory. In short,
greater nonsense Ia puliticel tounotny than they pto-
dewed was never presented to Cie atientios of the pub-
lic. To eopprie that any oat bran:h of so.:iety was
meet in.surtant and deserving et the general concern
lima another, was as ..beard as the nation, that the,
Inure, or any .other organ of the animal body, was
more useful and essential than any uthtr. 'I he yeses.:
perity of the country could only Le expected wheal
every bearish of. its tied: Mar surceA:ul; end that
prosperity could alone be 'tweeted from that security
to property which our an .estors enloyed, atl.l which
!rung tram the coustitntional lutetium of the people.
the Madam of trade was another greaupoint to which
the petitioners addressed themselvti. Without secu-
rity to property, distress mast increaee. It was this
mearity which brought the country to such a pitch of
wealth and commercial titittllCSl, us the !AIN enjoyed.
But there was ita sort of insecurity werse than that
which erase tram insuhordiari n. Thdrefure, it be-
came the duty of the Legislitu,e t .nlighten the dis-
tress when this onheppy spirit pr..selleJ, t,) ma::e,
them let 1, till, if they di I. not Coweibute to ntaltitAin
these estabh.hutents which cave them bread, no ins- I
pro...ncut could be tapected itt coun'ty. He
-regretted much to le., that a trocsi may tamales
were withdrawing teem Paisley in cons tquen.," ot
their apprehensions of violence ter their property.
It was quite impossible this any man wrt' tisink
of risking his capital in any bta: h of trade.. on-
less where a respect fur the law, itras mei:stained.
-Ilaulfacturers always avoided throe plates where
they cou'd nut expect to proceed with sezurity to
their properly : cad it was remarkal4e, that in Ireland
manutaclural were to he found carrying ue only in a
little epet where disturbances Mad never taken placni
Recurring then to the petition, be. repeated that the,
(-mashy rout:, in order to expect any imprueerarot in
her eetermerce. return to the pr.n..iplei (readout of
trade. We had to contend lorainst the rival exertions
of tortilla asthma% whose rulers were iseetutviat. the
utmost attendee lathe promotion of commerce in their
respective Stott*, sad . therefore tbe utmost can mad
' wateb.ft:lauit. should employed on oor part. ,7,11

those countries to wMih hot alluded, trade was left en.
iirely free. The constant complaint that the Ameri-
can merchants met as in every market, arose out of dm
freedom of commerce of the Gaited Stites. In Frosty
also, the improving condition of tits people promise-I
to render her competitions, with as of a formida-
ble except. He held in his hand a letter which be
had 'received that day from a cot respondent in Paris—
e gentleman intimately acquainted wi h the state of
France in its various relations. ibis codeine/1 s a•ed,
that the political agitators of the country had ao ifnet
whatever on the man of the people,--that they found
more employment now than they hithoto had. and
that ors lie wla 'le, the suffer* of tbs. pollikonts cow
fined to e eery small extent. He (air. Donne begged
to enforce umea the House, in the language of the per
titiou, that the trade of the reentry was in that .
that we could not expect to .rapport ani Imger a moo- •
petition with other nieiow, note. sbe a return to the ••• - •
old pr;neiples of. a_fratoenepttriok. 'Yet he . was pre, • •
tiered to say, that the petitioners by co mes" , •
dto oak for any matins alteration ; they ttelninewd, •- •
and he azrorded with them, that Parliament shanlil
poiceed uoen the conviction that voneohing was fleece-
uary to be done. The qiiestien was not a party ete a-
tion—it was one in which many political opoolonte
conecrred, and it was but jiroi.n: to stet:, the', 'brie
was no Member of tile House who was more aoxiosi
to see the principles of this petition carried iota prat, •
ties than a Right Hon. Gentleman oprosite (Mr. Ro-
binson). It bemme the House to attend to this gees-
tints a 3 statesmen,, and not go on from rear to year, is
upon the state of finance, putting off some definite natl.
cure. One thing which the petitioners would hire it ,
contend with, w 3 the determination Which (lover:talent
acted upon. When there were two parties contending
each other, tiovernmeat waited to see whirls
was caeeble of a:fording them the most assiit'Mtcto a
and then joined with the party. 'the conduct hew-
ever of Mr. Pitt was very different—witness these /A
of that Minister on the Commercial Treaty.. Bet
nittcrs should look at the question with the ere" 1T e
statesmea, end come down to suppert some 4stiaitiz
measure. Having stated that the general object
the petition sees to bring abcut the restoratiou. of the .
former freedom of our commerce, perhaps it would be
useful to stute some yoiats which.Vas peition hed •
considered. The first principle they hod tp combat, ,
was the fallacleas doctrine mointalaed. in tile coaster, •
and 1/I.2re obstinately maintained is that Haase, elnero .
we wTre to have am -sclusive jet feetiosi in rrery
of manutactuted,produce, and that we Were to thlts:37
vont to have tit home, of o::r ownerodere, articios a rialtos--
we cenld get abroad fer half whattbs knee thauldu tun;
c sat. Providence heal given different advantages to die.
femme constrict, Atii up Actuht
lthesueerioutbenefits
waradiapsnAilfocabe nasal mere •74 of tirtirtp;
kind to ether from An eeirsotostinets of the width:
end juoiosj them iu a system of wintoel amosolooda-
tion. Cut it was reserved in modes econmuiste
to di,cover, that the only wisdom consisted in au
endeavour to prceitice :Articles at lierno
.4 twice •
the expense at e.hicti thet could procure then' sahroad.
Aceerding to there principles, the iiiiishitant of thw •
north, ineteed of eechangiug the consuaoilitiae of his
climate for the produce el the south, would remain at
home, and endeavour. by scraping his own barren
Locks, to see if he could not elven c, at a gr,atesoeren
at home, that which he multi have for 'half that es-
pence from some foreign nation. He did not mean to
deny that there were particular imarests to be pro-
tected by the S:eto Lyon many uras.ons; but he main-
tained that Government should ever keep in view in
ventral policy, the principles of freedom of 4:tomtit:see.
Having regard, then, to these principles, he should
like to know what answer the Minister vienid make
to the eroposal for a repeal of the,tax on wool. Fur
his part be thought that this arti.le ovoid nut eadure
the amount of taxation imi.osed upon it. It was not
easy at any time to ascertain what quantity rat texts a
particular commodity was able to bear t but he knew
that when Uovernouta itneoied a new. duty on wool,
they were tampering with a branch Gf the tnanufer.-
tare of the rent:try. in which. if a taitake Were toads,
it would erotlece the must fatal consequancas.—(dour!)
—He was happy to see that this subject was in sue+
good bands at those of his Noble Friend (Lord Mil-
tun), fives whom he was saisficd it wered receive every
justice. Sot an injury Fires to commerce di,i not af-
sort commerce chine. limy were to take into consi-
deration the feet, that since the irnpositien of the duty
on trout; the home produee et that conitemiity woe
depressed in price, and if it turned out at ar, time
that wool could not moltire tae Annabelle• of tax laid
upon it, the result must be. that it would exp..-
ricrac, a- prolair4inata foil of price. The copse-
pence of this duty would be, that tins country won't)
be beat out of the foreign netritet, anti if that wen
the cao the evil result to the country would be di&-
cult to be calculated. This country had the greatest
proportional growth of woul ia the uorld; inOoed, by
othesionatr, bad the one-third of that propUttitio
end it the principles of the ell times were acted npvn,
tours in which this wet a great exi.orting country, a
mitioilerable portion of the: growth should go cut of
'She country. He conf,ceed that be tilt strongly alma
'the impunity of this tax, co elybgly, that be was ex-
tremely stirprised when he heard so b a tee had ben
proposed, and carried into iff ex without any inform?:
tion having hetuffetieceivoil upon the scroject by !kir Ito•
jesey's blinieters. Ihe manufacturiug part 4qw
aomansaity hilsoured at pre-cut trader the great' stofer
advaatages, and men rasker to Leet
alias so oseaperage t:lere r the r
she (ate bad been otherwise, as was easifested in ilia
leeposition.ef this taw, witch was one armory to all
solheatuseurdb4rof jettarliarotl:cet: sin! pmranetwicescofutpLitabiciopeenatrytios
tekt
obtain a raifismasi d -the tevesine loos, L. see solo
what as,tiews thew obj.pethatieble duties wore fosa44'dp
and, mike. unitises were extremely cotes*, to hors
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