The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-03-10 00:00:00

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lhjr,ty94 ).0t1:111r henna him toil() so more than if the
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env ;eve, treaty ha.: existed.
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J. NEWPORT observed, that the Right u
geseereele Gentleman seemed to think no upi. waste
eon cuuld be better than his own, andelsat the t heel the present Administration from their first
resent Motion seas in consequence of such a na- coming into poWer up to this present day.
i ;Orr, tear it was only neceasary to state it to have Mr. VILLIERS spoke, but in a manner so
it aceett,.a to without discussion. Now he did very inaudible, that we could Catch but few of his
toes that if ever there Ras I qiteetton store likely *olds. He stated that he had stedfastly laboured,
eon windier to create a debate, it was that which and with great effact, to embody tronin in Portugal,
Bas 0„.,, adore the Committee. It was to engage and had never relaxed life exertions for raising the
The question whether, we should
Pure
teen to continue a contest which no ettebet the levies.
got lieniorrabliGentlemau thought any other our army in Portugal to bc aided by all•that Por-
then desperate; and he could not hut wonder at his NO could do, or to contend with the enemy alone,
sepposine that the sentiments of that Iluitie were I when the whole mess of the peopfe depended on
eiady different to demi° pf rho country. ! them for protection. -lie wia of opinion that if
.Chi, was not all, there was another pititst the Spaniards bad done their duty (and his °pi-
ts, which • discussion might well' hare been nion was deliberately formed on the spot), the aid
oreeit, even had there been a prospect of afforded by this country would have more than suf.
woes ; the policy of taking Portuestese troops fired for the deliverance of the Peninsula. Ile
„„r pay. What reasnit could the Right could not conceive how any' one could be of opi.•
He,,,erehle Gentleman hare for. thinking 'they 'aims that an army should remain there unaided by
yen!! prove etileient„.at least in a degree proper. our allies. The Portuguese Government hail din.
eeede to theeipeuce incurred for
.their 'sup. played great energy in raising. the supplies.. He
ert ? What energy bad they ever yet elicit' concladed by panegyrizing Lord Wellington.
their own cope to entitle -them to such a Mr. GURWE'N had looked in vain to what
orlk,;1? If, Weever, it mild be proved fell front the Right lionotatable Gentleman, for
oat etch a force waii desirable, he thought some grounds in support of the present motion.—
wester; hail been guilty. of a reprehensible What, hoWevere was he to think, when the Ito.
laity in mieestateeee 41w oeceesery arrangements utterable Gentleman who spoke last, and who
I,4„re. lit a letter, bearing deice November was on the spot, stated that Spain had not done
lees, it teas stated, that as soon as 10,000 LW &air? lot ese circumstances, how could Gen-
ets were on foot, his Majesty would ad. Remelt call on that iltinsefo agree to the present
nee a preeer sum for their maintenance.— motion, as creating a , diversion in favour of
Tk tgez t Idler on the subject was dotted Feb. 2S, Spain ? 'rho Rouse hid heard, too, from the
to, which set forth,. that as nothing had been HonontableGentl.anati who spoke last, that there
lately heard of else progress of the levies .in was energy in Portugal in the collection of
fartugel, au mtiotato oaf expencee WAS tk- elute barked he said that there was any energy
seed as soon IS ImSdible, resat the same might be in thelieeple in providing for the safety of the
ea before Perliate est. From a subsequent let- country ? If there had been any patriotism in
et, "tiniest by the Marquis Wellesley to the Portugal, would it have suffered the French army in
*ewe, in p.rival. it appeared that other ' the first instance to overrun it in the matinee it lied
tits west have been wri•tee on the subject, done? Ile believed the Portnenese looked on the
free oes sentence —st The policy repeatedly contest as being a British cause, and not one for
need y stir dispatches." Where weie those theinterests of Portugal; anti hu was• afraid the
dispatches ? Iti lay were they called upon to vote gallant army which wu had in that country, was
the k.iiits revirill, without being put in pout- placed in a very disagreeable predicament. It was
reiel ,r the re 'sons which intim:need the. Mi. ineithibent on the Right Honourable G=entleman,
in
p
is
te to ramp' in advising such a men. Calling an the Holise to concur in the present um.
ore ? The reasons given by Win far em- lion, to show that Portugal was in a situation to
bellying Pertriguese troops could met be good, be saved—no prudent matt could say that Spain
or Ministers would have produced them in was in this state.. But was there nothing in the
thelicetion, or in support Of the motion. s condition of the country to oppose the vote now
Why lied nit Mr. Canning &not answered furl proposed ? Was there nothing in the mode
thirteen months ? When they called for a million in which it was now found necessary to col_
tar such purpoio, at a time when every beee of test the taxes, which ought to make the House
SUMS watt annihilated, he could not enise,it to ,scrionsly hesitate, before it voted away a million
tie !eerie', as he Biel not hie k they coitlil id- of money, without the prospect of any advan.
liner the raise in arty (kerec proportionate to the tact, resulting from it ? If our enemies could
exprnce they e truld,cost the country. By the form a wish as to the conduce it would he
due at is hicit the new levies were to be made, most agreeable to them we should ailopf,—if t 3 he
was hut little pritbability of the pieces in ileperte ceald express a wish on this subject, it
;tech they Were to-bit retard brim in the pos. would be that we should attempt to stippuri Per.
s..,ius either sit the English or of the Portuguese. titgal. For he must know it would be time height
There was a degree of Infatuation in agreeing of maihicss in us to do so. Lint hail nothing
sith the prePnesition, which he hoemil,the House I lately liaised in this country to make the House
weld never display. He entreated them well to pause? Had uothiag lately occurred in (list
equiJer whit they did, anti no letigei.to stir- Thtuse ? Ile confessed it was uothing new to him
trace ever treasure and best Waited Into the, (ever.. Curtecii); but still many Members of
bead•'of nti•ii-aWa ithd so often biant preset in: the House must have been startled and alarmed
tempetetit to the discharge of the rirtictlonsi at titer:matte- A.ltight lionuarable Gentleman
et their respective •ituations. in a proper manner. (Mr.' Wuskisson), lately iti. the—A Cmtvitstratioori
The Right lion. Gentleman relied notch, on the and whosu attention had been pecnliaily celled to
retarded sentiment:, of Parlianacut. In their Ad- the subject, had told the House that a Kevision
besot 1809, they bad declared they would aid the and retrenchment in the expenditure of the cone-
tune of Spain so twig as theSpaui nets remained true try, not to the extent of a few troops of cavalry,
totheasselves* ; hut he contended they hail ceased to nut as to.some militia regiments—but a radical and
be tree to thernaelves. Had they 'been true to complete retrenchment was absolutely required.
theaselves in giving ap Sevilla to south a force as This was nut idle phantom, but a statement coining
Ind been sent against it ? leaving all their froth a Gentleman who possessed information on
military stores, ke.. to fall into the hands of the the Subject, and *hose ()ivy it had been to ex-
tame, without making one effort to convey them amine into it minutely. Ile thanked the Honour.
In Cati'a ? la what instance had they been true to able Gentleman for the warning, but he wished' it,
Iheireelte.? With tiwifte.eption of one or two townse had coune at an earlier periled, when the Hon Aletn.
is 'Weil he 1;110404 unparalleled valour bed been ber for Oakhanipton (Mr. Wardle) in the course
dwelayed, in no instance had they actinitted them. of the last Session, called the attention of the
aches cell. Prete thebegioninee as he was well in. Rouse to the subject. If he lied done so, they
formed by many Otficers.whe had been there, they would, probably, bellow saved the inquiry in which
uniformly appearbil tome (*making a jnint effort. they were at present migiged ; they would have.
With this knewledte, was England in circumstances been saved the late disgraceful Expeditien ! An.
tags farther with this infatuation ? If so, he wished 1 other Hon. Gent. admitted that ice must retrench ;
know *bete it would end. It was not an insig. ' then, why be called on to tote a millien of to;mey
ailcant kown holding out (bat could justify us in in this hopeless etperintent, at a period too, when
giving our assistance. Nit hopes of success were the depreciation of our paper money was about
entertained out of doors, awl .how such an idea otte.thirk? These were disagreeeble triable but
caahl be cherished ie that Hoeft he was itt a lose, they must he told. With economy, the country
114 conceive. The Right Hun. Gentleman had to pouessed the means of retrieving itself, but not
slid aid was only gives wities view to !Hawks. Wiehout it. Bonaparte looked not to his arms,
ite credit cherish such a hope be.woold support the but ;to oar prodigality, for effecting our uver.
notion. that is, If omhadying Poxtugiteete troop* throw. lie (Mr. Classes') was unwilling to yen-
Isere likely to contribute effectnally to thet.object. tent this last , stake. We were in ati awful
Be wished to know what it Was Intended subse. sitoinient e! The Constitution had undergone a
tpient:y to do with the troops. (An the French' change. The house was not what it had been.
tasking. themselves masters of the country, were A Minister, formerly, could not remain its
they to be brought to Eurgland to add to the kite. office *Rhea possessing the confidence of
eense number of fort ign troops already its told the flou;e. Noel Misisters found that they could
eanntry ? Or were they to be left there ready. retain their situations without possessing the eon.
trued for the iii'reech service, that Ilonapartssifidyneu clam* of that House sir of the country.
night have so many more men .ready to invade [G ries of hear, hod". !) Mr. Pitt could not main.
tat teerlturiee ? They miglitefosce them on the tails himself after he had lust the confidence of the
staftits, hut they woul.l out be received with open ilouso, but the present Ministers had greater re-
ktt there. A diffcrenee long subsisted between fiance on the torpar both of that House and of the
the natives of Portugal and thetraaill. .Ministers politic. What a change, was there in the feelings
onto to take into consideration both *ltems. of thd public stow and during the Inquiry of last
tires, whether the French weredefeated or the Fong. year I Then the public thought that time House
/kb driven oat of Portugal, and be p'repared accord. had given a blow to corruption. Seeing that this.
inglY. Were they never under any circumstances to was not the case, they were now completely
(Lilies.'
give up a cause' which they had once espoused ? cent. If the House wished to save the country,
.he Meld Honourable Gentleman might talk as this was the time to dismiss the .feelings of party,
er
nePlea,ed 'boat the French never being able to and to look only to the effectual
mean. which at
gain a tranquil establishment in Spans ; but if they that moment offered. Ile should not presume to'
could only be annoyed by a hand of marauders oc. say what the &piece was, but it was one which
issuing from the mountains. though , this must not be neglected. The first object was to
desultory kind of warfare
I might do France some bring the expenditure of the country within its.
harm t would du England no good. The French income. The moment they did so, they would.
'unit;rt present, The vote of this
were manitailied in Snail' at cut off the hopei of France.
the expellee of the Spaniards. Our soldiers night, if it was such as he expected, would do
!ere Provided fur by this couotry. Provi. more fur the good of the country than the battle'
snows had been. hid from its that they might of Talavera, or the capture of half a French
he surrendered to the French. if our force army. This would bring us ultimate success, but
lard nut been divided and frittered away. we must not look for it otherwise. The Right
*c might have done something of importance. Ifs lion. Gentleman (Mr. Perceval) salted, shuiuld we
instead ref having a little expedition here,. and a abandon Spain and Portugal ? No, surely not.
tittle expedition there, we luau! concentrated our Not abandbri them, but give them
i the mean. s Of
force, choose t. Bit is
and endeavoured to mike a decisive, bloo defonding that' country U. they ,

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he cause might. kWh iota i different aspect. The
ispeet it at preseitt wore was gloomy and hopeless,
is it only affordett prospcit•it continuing that
Nast* of blood and treason white toad character,