The Statesman.
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-discharge it. duty if it did not peruit 110 Commit
at the Bar to do their'.. He considered the interrup-
tion of Mr. Broughams highly proper.
Lord liou.smn coincided in opinion with his Noble
Friend. He considers.' the intetruptien of the gallant
Vitruunt as most irregular, and requested he wombd
ir forts: the House what was the duty of Counsel on
those occasions.

Lord Harlot:Tit said, be should decline the Invitation
of the Noble Lord ; but he should nevertheless con-
tinue to interrupt a Counsel if he considered that
Counsel ont of order, though he should interrupt with
temper ; and I.e assured the Noble Lord that be
traltl not be put du:va by him or any Noble Lord in
that House.

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The Lord Cm ismit.t.ost agreed: that the Counsel had
a right to interrupt a witness, when he was about to
state that which was Not evidence.
1.0110 EIIeKINI concurred.
LORD RaDUIDALS said a few words, which Were illetl•
dible below the Bar.
Examination resumed.
What did you say to 3larietta, respecting your being
examined as a witness?—Marietta, whets he came to
me, he had already been told by sworbtuly, that I was
one of the witnesees against the Queen s sod he asked
sue whether it was true. I answered in the allltmative,
and he told me.--

lir. throw/ interposed, and actin submitted, tires
this line of examination was clearly irregular. It
opened a door to hearsay evidence, and put an end to
every limit which had already been marked out for a
re-examination.

Mr. A rTountr-ClastruAt. shortly contended fur
right to put the question.

Mr. Beet out% replied. On his first endeavouring
to speak, thete was a cry of order, but the Lord
Chancellor observed Mr. Brougham had a right to
reply t o the Attoreey-Oeneral. and Mr. Brn'iltillu
was then suffered to proceed. He stated thr ■ thief
which in his opinioa would result to the a al igni-
tion of justice, if this line of re-examination was' pet.
mitted.

The Earl of LAUDERDA LE spoke a few words in fa-
vour of Mr. Attorney-General's argument.
The LORD Ettancat.Lon now asked " what was the
question before the House."

The Clerk read the question.
'The LORD COANCIELLUR suggested that the question
should be put in form, and objected to in form.
his was done accordingly, and
Lord Easutxx rose soil expressed his opinion, that
the question ought not to be put.
The Loan LOAN( lILLOR agreed with Lord Erskine
that the question in this shape was objectionable.
The ATTOIRNEY-UIO4IIIIIIAL then asked—Did Marietta
say any thing to ye:* whet. you told him you were to
be a witness against the Queen?
Mr. BROCONAM again ohjerted,
The AT fORNIT-411VeraAL then put the question thus ;
—Before you will Marietta you were to he a wham
bad he said any thing to you about it ?—No.
Mr. Arroastav-licalast. ag..in attempted to put
a 'waives* to their essovssrartioa s but Mr. *rep &mu
refused to sorroodor his objeetims, aid the Seas,
after some irregular conversation, referred to the
Judges, sad it was agreed that to-ororrow sootaiug
a case should be put before them in form.
Adjourned at five o'clock until to-morrow.

THE QUEEN.

STATIOSNAN-OPPICIE, TIM DAY, Two o'CLeer.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Tummy, Barr. I.
(ZIOUTIENTII DAT.)

Prayers were read as meal, and the Peers were called
over. TM defaulters were Lord Alvanley 11/111 Mark
Blessington aid tirosford.

Lord Kenyon then rose for the purpose of renewing
his motion of yesterday. His lordship made a few re-
marks on the enormous espences which these peecead-
ings were likely to entail upon the country, and con-
eluded by moviag for a copy of all correspondeneewhich
had passed between his Majesty's Hovernmest endive
Majesty's advisers, and of all sums of money paid k) her
Majesty since the limitation of these proceedings.
On the modes being read from the Woolsack.
Lord Kies rose to second it; the Noble Bari. Li-
verpool, bad told their Lordships yesterday, that every
facility would be provided for the giving this informa-
tion at a proper time, but he (Lord King) emsephod.
that there could not be a more proper time thlitt the
pretest.
The Earl of Ltrearoot. observei, there would be se
dilkulty at a proper time to afford the Home every
information on the subject embraced by the Noble
lord's motion. He, however, conci•ived the present
period of applying for that information highly liken-
renient, and be should therefore oppose the motion.
The Karl of LAUDIRDALIt said a few words, which
were perfectly inaudible ; we, however. understood the
Noble Earl to be favourable to the motion.
The lierPuf Denxt.ry supported the tandem
■tented on the palpable profusion of ',pence which list
.11111111611sarily be canna by those proceedings. At all
mine he cooteived the House should be possessed of the
.10111010111 km required by the Noble Lord's motion.
. Tba Lstn CuatsesLLon put the motion from the *eel.
seek aiitt declared that the sense of the House wee In
favour of the motion—A division, however. was sailed
for, and strangers were ordered to withdraw.
On our re-oeseission we found that Lord Kenyelsbad
gained his tootles by a majority of 110.
Counsel were then called in.

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The Loan ensprottLon briefly addressed the
House, explanatory of the question on which k was
yesterday deckled to take the opinion of the Juices;
after which, the Judges Mired to coatsultoo the Nona
referred to their consideration.

Mr. Baotrosast iumedlately rose, lad stated,
although he was at all times aawillin6 se
idols of abases of .
the ?resent occasion,
interposition i sot
panisliweat, as for
the parties alleded
hoes sass apes them.
whieh he had the '
his duty to cell for
Ilea, or swarms!,
lcis. Is girls,

oriff of the Morning papers had Callen ithvl grow
had flagitious naht..ke. He sail flagitious, because
he was convinced" that no wan who heard that
part of the evidence could bare unintentionally mis-
represent it in the isomer that had been dorm.
The Leaned Gentleman then read from a Newspaper
the part lie complaibed of. 'He stated in reply to a
question pat to the witness, that Mr. Brougham's bro-
ther bad offered favours to those who refused to go as
witnesses against the Queen, thereby nut only charging
that Honourable Relative with tampering with tbq
witnesses, but with that for whiuh the Court wah
bound to visit them with its itmost severity. This, my
Lords, said Mr. Brougham, is nothing like what was
said, andl:cannot conceive any thing more gross, more
scandalous or more flagitious than this, and if there is
any thing on which I am ready to concur in the opinion
of the Judges being taken it i. this. lam now ready
to waive all objections, and earnestly desire that the
whole of the matter may he probed to the bottom, and i
if a charge should appear to be made against me of the
nature attributed to my honourable relative, I am ready
to waive my privileges as Member of Parliament, in
order to give every facility to an inquiry being hod-
totted into my conduct. Indeed, the only thing I
am apprehensive of is, that your Lordships will
nut go into it. I, myself, put into the Noble Earl's
band a letter from old Marietta, complaining that his
`son had bees threatened by Col. Browne with being
sent out of the country, under the Alien Act ; and, I I
am nut sure, that that was not the origin of this mis-
take. It was I also, who told Earl Liverpool that
young Marietta went to Sacchl, in the same manner
as be had a right to go to any witness the cause, to
know what evidence he had to give. In the same
manner as Reigard went to him ; and as it was bisdaty
to go to every one connected with these proceedings.
And in the same manner as the Lords of the Admiralty.
yesterday sent for two naval officers, witnesses on one i
side, to question them as to what, evidence they had
given in this case.
The ATTORNIT-OIHRUAL vindicated himself from the
charge brought against him by his Learned Friend of
having receited communications on the subject of the
conversation with Marietta, from one of his Majesty's
Ministers. The fact was, that he never heard from any
quarter one word about that conversation till it came
out yesterday in the course of the cross-examination ;
and on that information, and on that alone, be had pet -
ceeded to re-examine the witness on the subject. Ile
thought therefore his Learned Friend ought to le
cautious how he threw out that insinuation, and before
he charged him with a coalition with his Majesty's
Ministers. He had thought proper to make this expla-
nation which was entirely distinct from any vindication
of the state of the press, which was certainly not what
it ought to be.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord LITER pool. begged leave, as an envision had
been made to him, to statel the circumstances of the
case as they hadhappened. It oas tree that the Learned
Coompel ;lid, three days ago, employ a Noble Earl to
put a letter into his hand complaining of representa-
,tions baring been made with respect to Al. Marietta
Maid Col. Biwa. On that occasion he isentedintoly
satisfied the Learned Gentleman that there was not
the smallest foundation for the reports complained of,
and added, that IL Marietta might assure his 'on that
he would receive the fullest protection from the British
Government.—(Hear.)—lt was, however, material for
him to state, that he never hail any communication
with the Counsel at the Bar, n ith respect to this letter.
(Hear.)
Lord Mat.vh.t.a observed, that as it had been stated,
that two gentlemen bad been sent for on the authority
of the Lords of the Admiralty, he should beg for their
Lordship* indulgence, whilst he detailed the real fact,
leaving them to judge whether the representation was
at all correct. A professional gentleman had made an
application to him, as it was customary from time to
time to do, to ascertain the places of residence of any
individual under their controul; and if any appli-
cation of such a nature have, or should hereafter
be made, lie should act as he had then done. Tbe
person whose address was required on the pre-
sent occasion was an English sailor, who had been for-
meriy on board a polacre of which their Lordships had
hears a great deal, and as the two officers in question
were on board that polacre, they had been sent for to
state if they knew any thing respecting this man. He
had not been traced, but lee could state with certainty
that no questions whatever had beets put to these gen-
tlemen relative to any other matter pending the present
proceedings—not eves the most distant point.
The LORD CHANCELLOR Said% it certainly did appear
from the notes of the shorthand writer, that the re-
port of the publication in question was by no means
consistent with these notes. Publications had
gone forth with respect to these proceedings,
which woalii hereafter become matter of legal
attention; but it was a question how far 'it might
be expedient to undertake any steps at present.
The Judges then retired.
About tea minutes before one o'cloek, the Judges
returned, and having differed be ophsion with respect
to the question proposed, Mr. Jostles Ricoannanst, be-
th_crunsest of the Judges. ruse so give his °pi-
-
. 'The questions that were submitted for their
Lordships consideration were, whether upon •
trial of an action between A. and B. the witness,
C. B. upon his crosrecausioatiost hod stated GOMA past
conversation that had occurred between him and
another person D, the Comm! would have a right to
require from him the entire of that conversation. In
this, be concurred with all the Judges except one,
Raub*, that such a course was entirely contrary to the
proetice and image la such cases.
The need ;location was, whether this was so in rei-
t/foal seisms. With respect to the second question, •
me se dilliwiere.

Justin BUT does rase to give his opiaioa. He said
that, serer in his life did he feel himself pieced is a
were embarrassing situation. Ver in the resew la-
wawa% he hod to differ is opialea from all thou with
whoa be bad heels is die habit of sotwarriag. Hewer**.
he felt it his duty to fors hie own opiaioas whitest
paying regard to those of Nimes. The !warmed Jodie
'des proceeded to state the glowed ea wide& he
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:hosted '
sand misstates

a the Press, he was tws;pells4, es formad his opinions. He theeilit that any taaa, it an
gee, to rail for their Laniodior oonrersant with the achaleistratioa of justice, oast be
4 so
week fee the pompom di ;Al aware of the 'feminist-hie( that wield be dome, and
Ms* tresaroloas situation is which a witness wield be
for the sake of entirely ,if after pert of a conversation hag bees stared.
Id to, from the aspersions digairy were to be dapped. He. tbeieliser, pre it his
Ideas As e Minister of the* and solemn opiates, sad this ophtiest was greamied
boomer of pressen'''. he hit k the breed priusipies of jetties, that when a pert ea
r the „aeries amass wad of 0.104 eseienteties tree stood. thee rho whets 'Met eettveree-
over the publication of its prep& fit ,_aliski liiileirg,„ es& b!hr preetvolet. As a Mgr. he
the el ideas. Wash passed peembw, ••• •• mug owed to fejudie ie till pates; sad