The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-02-08 00:00:00

PRICE 9 FITEN PENCE.

provemeat in the revenue, Ministers supposed all to be
going on well. In the end, they would find them-
selves deceived, and the evil concealed for a time,
would develop. itself on a sudden in wide spreading
calamity and Me. Hs could state, that in the West
of England and in the midland counties, scarcely any
rent could at present be collected. When the wages of la-
bour were so reduced that a labouring man was obliged
to maintain his wife and two children on 7 shillings
per week—when in some instances but sic, and in
some bat four shillings per week could the obtained for
labour, where fourteen or fifteen had formerly been
paid—such a state of things must produce erects that
would endanger public credit. There bad been als
intention on the part of Government to reHeve their..
cultural distress, by a loan of 5,000,000/ Thit =MAIM
could not diminish the evil. They were not aware hew
-mach property bad been confiscated, ...sad they
forgot the 'haulm of many of the parties. How wee
lush a meagre- * be made appitedble to teases, foe
life—tenants in tail—tenants for a long term—and
others which be enumerated; and whicls he contended
could receive as relief from a measure like that which'
had been suggested. The measures that would died-.
.kb the evil were first of all eeemeay and retrench-
ment, carried on so as to restore the lostequilibrium of
property. Neat it would be necessary to guard against
foreign importations. He did not wish the price of
grain to be raised ; but it was nec yto look my
closely to the eosditions on which foreign torn was
allowed to be imported, for nothing could be mere
absurd than to suffer the °peeing of the pert. (or*
weeks to glut the market for the next three years./
He hoped those things would be remembered by 1111.%
Meters, and that they would foresee that if the agrii•
cultural interest and the fire or six millions of persoole
depending upon it were not perfectly protected, the.
public credit would be in danger, as would even th4l ,
laws sad coostitution of the country if the lest eitolk,.
Librium were not restored.
itts,
Mr. LUSIIINUTON felt satisfied that lbw epithet!, ; -','`,
callous," as applied to his Right Hon. Er lend thit ' ..t ~.^...
Chancellor if the Exchequer, by an Hun. bileMber op- ''.
',tithe, was lased inadierteatly, and not advisedly. His
Ritht '6.. Friend was not to be understood as errs.:
leg tg) ap::2 any redaction whatever—{Hear heir, ftemi
j)se tios)—hut only against redaction carried ts.
'sae y extent as to pet the public credit into jeeps,*
bear.)—His object was to give relief, sad
rieZdtliimmee was as *Am objects to whom U
iiii•ei lie exfssded. '
NIT. HUME thOught the' Honourable Heathens
could out have been in the Mew when the debate to
which he alluded took plow, our yet have read hit
amendment. His amessisisot called for n act that
could cadaver patine reedit. He bedevilled leeway
dattiou of eitgesses from the highest to ski 10wee1t..—....
branch of the public service, that taxation might his
,reduced in, proportion. Wbo could understand die
Obsseollese of the Exchequer but as -essaaing tide--.
"taxation meet sot be diminished—if you &taiga Is.
you increase the distress of the country." He was
happy to end, from the tone of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Lusbington), that eight and forty hours bad not elapsed
since that speech was made without teaching the Go-
vernment that whatever they intended, taxation most
be diminished. He was happy to mark this change
in their carriage, and angered well from the explana-
tion which had just been offered by the Honourable
Geatleman. • ''',
The Petition was then read by the Clerk, and or-
dered to be printed.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. '
A Message from the Lords being anaounced, the
Messengers were called in, and communicated their
Lordship.' request, that they might be furnished frith
a copy of the Appendix to the Report of the Agricul-
tural Committee.—Ordered.

ADDRESS TO HIS MAJESTY. ••
Mr. R. CLIVE brought up a Report of the Addles,
voted to his Majesty on Tuesday night last, which-be-
ing read,
Mr. CURWEN raid he wished that the subject of
that Address were well considered and rediscossed be-
fore it was sanctioned by the House. He did not believe
that the framers of the Speech, or of the Address were
sufficiently in possession of the miserable state of the
country. Under the circumstances of the country, it
was but reasonable to hope the Crown would be ad-
vised to share in the public feeling and to set an exam-
ple.—(Hear, besr.)—Things bad now come to a level,
to w►ich people must descend at last, and nothing
could be more vain than the expectation of high
prices. If we asked for high prices under existing
circumstances, we should only destroy the mannfae-
tures of the country. We seek not to injure any class
—we only seek the reduction of taxation.—(Hear,
hear, hear.)—Tbat was the relief which was sooett
for, and which ought to be granted. The Mature
of advancing five millions by way of loan, on secu-
rity, was quite ineffectual. If meo had security to
give, they need not want your loan, for they coubt
easily borrow. But would the U ment lend with-
out security?—He did not expect such a measure
would be the result, after the last Session, and the
period while Parliament was prorouged, was spent in
deliberation. He agreed that public credit should
be preserved, if possible; bat could the preseat
state of the revenue be maintained? He on.
tended it could not. They should at last come
to the fundholders. They should impose an equal tax
on the fended and landed property, and he main.
mined that there was no other way to save the country
from impending ruin. He would wish this matter to
be discussed without party feeling. Though he was
a friend to Parliamentary Reform yet he wished this
matter to be discussed iodepeodently. If a Carom
system of taxatioa were resorted to, that would be one
material step towards the Reform of that House.—
Witbost some alteration in the system of taxatioo, the
country would be reduced to absolute misery. Let
the state of the sister kingdom be looked to. There
was no appearance of any political or party feeling is
the dieted/ammo which existed in that onforeawste
country. The disorders arose from the sufferings of