The Statesman.
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ter, susceptible of some other and

terpretation, it must at the same ti
that the words naturally bear

which we have put upon them.

was never addressed by such Mcmur
a panet-its plaki voimbipeas lai
phrase is equivocal end May by
ivkport a tilted, is (in such a pa,
was proposed, by all the Officers
Army), to be received as an explicit

that sense, and brings the crimc,
actorily, home to it 3 anibors.

32. In considering the subject matter of this
memorial, we perceive that of the three complaints
prilerred in it, thure is °not one which could be
made, with ropriety, the subject of a represent-
ation front fie army At. large, even if such repro.
sentations were justifiable in any case.
° 33. Whether his Majesty shall call the Com.
moiler in Chief of the Arsly into his Cabinet
Council or not, it is for his Majesty, with the
advice of his Ministers, to &tide, in his discre.
I Lion. The Commauder in Chief Of the whole
British forces is not necessarily a Member of Ad.
anieistration, or of either Hulse of Parliament .;
and we are well assured? that no Officer itv his
Majesty's service could be found,, if the recent
conduct of Lientenant.General flay Macdowall
',weld not compel us to- make an exception in his

use, who would . countenance or promote a re.
presentation from the British army at large, to his
Majes, or to Parliament, on•that subject.• •
34.-Whether the Commander in Chief. 9f the
army of the East India Company, servintuader
the Presidency of, Fart St. George or Bombay,'
shall ho appointed to a seat at the Council- Board
or not, is a'question which is left by law to the
decision of the II onourable the Court of Directors,
whose duty and privilege it is to determine it, ac-
cording to their views of public convenience and

advantage. . •
35. The complaint upon this subject is' intro-
duced in • the Memorial, immediately after 'the
assertion, in lofty and declamatory language, that
the " humble Memorialists ire not the abject
slaves of a country enthralled by despotism
and that they respectfully assert a claim to
" certain rights and privileges; the enjoyment
" of which may be allowed to them, without im.
" pairing or encroaching on the dignity of Go.
" 'efficient, or in any way interfering With the
" other departments of the State."
38. When such a body as au army is invited to
asset a claim of rights and privileges, care
should be taken by those who lie not propose to
sow the seeds of revolt and public trouble to de.
fine those rights and privileges. No affected am.
higuity. at least; should attend such declarations ;
'and when a complaint of the exclusion of the
Gommander in Chief from Council immediately
follows such declarations, and 'Mods in front of
the grievances which the Memorial sets forth, if it
was not intended to class the admission of the
Commander in Chief to Council amongst those
lights and privileges of the army which they
would be abject slaves if they did net assert, that
claim should have been implicitly disavowed,. and
ought not to have been strongly countenanced .by
sis form of language scarcely ambiguous.
37. We deem it proper to declare expiiciflyt
that the admission of a Commander in Chief of the
' Coast Army to a seat at the Conseil Board of that'
Presidency, is not amongst the rights and privi-
leges of the Coot Army 1 and thatapy.vepresen.
ration upon that subject, in the name of the
Army at large, would be an undue interference
with objects sot within their competence, and
•wostld be a culpable departurofrom the military
character, and from the proper duties of their
station.
38. It has been attempted to perplex this ques.
lion• by misrepresenting the office and duty of the
Commander in Chief in his office of Counsellor,
when he has a seat at the Board ; and, above all;
by introducing some indistinctand confused notions
of a representative character which is ascribed to
him ass Member of Government. The confusion
of ideas on this subject is still incremied, by their.
pointing naturally. at some false analogy between'
the rights of representation in the political con.'
stitutiun of the British Legislature, anti the right
of the Army of Fort St. Georgt• to lie represented
in the Government of that Presidency. To this'
right is added the claim that the Commander in
Chief• fur the time beipg shall, by virtue of his of.
lice, be that representative. •
39. It is obvious that a step more, lo this pro. 4
cess of confused analogy, would set up 4 Crain! for:
the .Army to the electiun of ire own 11epresenta.1
tivoin the Government of Fort St: George.
40. This tissue of error must either be the
wads of extreme ignorance, or must have been
constructed for the purpose of deception, poll

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ranee of .others • ' bld oi it has been ~a Ire ~
ful source of delusion, and as " Repiresellter
in Council". has been made a sort of watch-Word
in these dissensions, it appears 'important to rec-
tify the false opinions which-ARO have beat ha-,
bibed upon these points, and to substitute plain
truth and reason in the room of all the perplexed'
and indistinct fallacies in which it has been the
study of an artful faction to entangle the sense
and feelings of their unwary and less4utormed
brethren.
1 41. A Commander in Chief, who is a Member
in Council, has precisely the same %ha/aster and,
duties as his colleagues. lie is not the eepresea.
• tative of the army in any sense of the,word, Mitt,
still less in the sense which may perhaps have been
intended, of his being chargml is Cutrocil with th
separate interests of the army, ' diatistOt Iry
those of the public, and the getter; GI
vernsneot. The. Commander ,
bee of Council, is the &legal,
troops, which, in another
moods in the field, but of the
inlay, and of the British naC
also with the interests of the C.
Military Servants of the Cempatty
smal prosperity of the whole
and native, of the provinces
=to which hetelongs. • But the
vet nor even yretersble
alitillools of the Commander i.:

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of providing o*ly
41.. That Government will consult . the experi-
ence of the. Commander in Xiiief in both these
branches of his Military Councils, if be is ,a Mem-
ber of their Board; They will Consult him out of
Council, if be is not their colleague.] and if any
Commander"kn Chia should, have (+Adored. himself
'unworthy; of their confidence, it is not to. be ap-
prehended that fidelity, experience, and judgment
will be wanting in', the superior ranks of the army
to supply the blank.
43. We abstain*. front delivering any opinion
upon the general question, whether it is expedient
or not that the Commander in Chief of the Army
on the Coast should be a Member of Goterinent.
it is-elven:lt for the vesent pnrpose to declare,
that this is purely a questhin of public expediency,
and iikjio respect connected- with any claim of
right er privilege in the'arwy. • • •
[To borouriudett to•taio raw.)
41.
CROWN AND• ANGUOR TAVERN!
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THEATRICAL RECONCILIATION.DINNER.
At five o'clock the doors of the Great Rooth
being opened, On tables
.were in less than five
minutes inaceesfihk, and many attic, company,
which in number exceeded three hundred, were
unable to obtain seats..
Soon after five o'clock, Mr. CLIFFORD took
the Chair, Mr. KestELE and Mr. li.kaats, Juu:
being seated on his right hand.
• The first toast, after the rowel of the cloth,

The King.
After which ,followed •-•••
The Yoire of the People. • •
' The Trialty Jury, with,three times Omer. • ,
Mr. Jonas then sung, " Pal Morphy the Pi-
per," with great humour. .
The Stage •
was next drank with very great applause. ....•
The ancient and unalienable Judicature of the Pit, _ A
being drank with three times three, the apphseit
that ensued lasted several minutes. -
The beautiful glee of "Glorious 4petlol!' wmil
sung by three Gentlemen in a very ivpitior styLts
of taste and execution. ....
, Mr. CLIFFORD then entreated . particular
attention te'the* taut which he was &bent to pro.
pose, feeling confident that no toast could be more
Appropriate to the object of the Meeting: - -
_May tin. happy Reconciliation he of equid advantage tot
nut* in ipouscsaeitt, and the Proptieton in emaluiveut,
tittle drank with three times three—end was sic.
eretind by very lirittand long protrieted,Opflaluse.
Mr. YEMBLE then rising, said—Gesaloinen,.
Mr. Harris and myself most cordially concur in
~tlic tout that has hatutOrett ; and beg to„have the
honour of most, respectfully drinking all your
healthr,
. This was .followed id very loud applause.
• The Immortal Meow" atillittltspemit, •
Mr. MILLIta tips proposed
The Health of Mr. Clifford I 1
which being drank with the utniost enthusiasm, :('
The CUAIRMAZI. ruse, and After the plan.:
&bey which continua,. antne.minutes, hid ceased,:
tuldressed the Company to the.following effect :
G2STLlttils,-1 reforn.you -Most sincerely my
**aka for the honour .yon hare e2nferred on
me,. by placing me in .this sltsition, and for the
very kind manner io w hich • I. have. been treated..
.1 consider it as somewhat nnfortunate for -etc,
that it is customary, *lien the health' of the Chair.
'men is drank, that hi:FliOuT.l say something more
than what would occur in merely returning
thanks; .and mors especially '
when hell-as, in any
manner, been personally connected with the cir-
cumstances that have ocCasioned this. Meeting. It
is also unfortunate, as I am desirous of burying in
oblivion every wan:scalars that has taken place,
during,the late dispute ; and I beg leaveio anal*
' every Gentlemiti present, that 'I shall feel sincere
.regret, if any expression which I may they, cen,
.by say mhrepretentetien, ,be tOrtnred,in.,such a
manner as 'to twoduce as unpleasant readies:Simile
Any ituferithtal *rho heirs me. Oentlente4l them
is it eiceuntattane• collisionl with ihnt of the mini!
digitate, to .which,. I tenst.l may, however, ittiveirti
•witfrottt liffehmrts7lll7logrgilirlWalter!, iltet
my 10 to be the Plaintiff in ite!!aft.ctitil, w,
of the trial of which all. inyintanialielina. ' . 'lt.
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'cfrom the reports in the-Nmi*ipprab asitik at-
,Sng. 14mini.ntylelf prestnotorfulls* ireettifelk• In
11.-tinireports it is stated, that distalO‘neursu-
lolf the 6114 or after it was over; I difineefaintoar
444013fliurpithliciy said that 'I whichatisc
41. an infstriated mob,: Meeting lii isieStc•nrir
property, re destroy the GeVeretnerfti`to subvert
the Constitution, and to overthrow thelifonarc:hy.
(dere there ware lend Crit:s from every port of the
room of Noy so I- so such thing q ' Snits, G .
*omen, Is-what is. stated in the .reportsof that
.tritlLln'the Newspapers to have hien said. Gen.
dement I recollect full well, theta/heti
..Colo
Wardle hyrOoduced the charges against the, Dtik
of York into the Meese of -r•Comes-onsi Ms. C:113.;j
ning aide asa of Ai* wiry Arta, but •tithstytl
Tint '7 :this

y ijact o( k.‘
Meeting, is, however, connected In -a certain de.
gree, Withevery Public Meeting. Gentlemen, 4
was greatq surprized on a recent trial for con.
:piracy, in the Court of King's Bench (the
' Wright. and Mrs. Clarke), to hear the Attorney.
'Generel accuse the Counsel for the Preseention of
the heieuus offence of aspiring topopuldrits --bit;
Gentlemen, f was stilt more greatly surprised to
hear the learned Gcnleman, to whom that crimewla
imputed., smarting under that imputation,-avow.
that he did not desire popularity, he dill not saski
it, he knew that it bad been obtainedby 'mail'
without merit, and that it was frequently with. -
drawn with es little justice as it had been confersteL
'that many have acquired popularity without,
merit is a truth with which we are 111 U , ile.'
quaiutcd. But that the well.eeteed eavolit gli.
the people is ever withdrawn without reastisol
is a position which I positively deny—for' it is
.what I have neteryet known. [Great applause]
Gentlemen, 'this is a very convenient doctrine for
corruption, anti it has become's° common and so
trite an observation, that many people really do
believe It.".,They take upon credit an assertion which
they have never thought. worthy of exansinatieu..
But it is founded on the Sophism, of-popularity;
*being evtineeted'With the indipidual, instead of its
being attached to the principles maintained and aitp..
ported 'by such individual. [ltratm, brood!)
Gentlemen, let any; man give use an instances if ,
he can, of
.an individual, who, having justly ae.i
quired popularity, and obtained the appleise
his ctuntrymcn, by his public conduct, end
consistent adherence to the interest of ow,
people—who ever lust that popularity which hell
been conferred upon kite. I say, Geetteeken4 '
there It no instance in which popular approbaftett,
and applause have ever been withdrawn from ;our,
::man, who steadily and indepeudently has ilerseveccil
ii . that uniform career of public conduct, which
had for its object the welfare and
,interest of the
public.—[Never ! stewed frets: approbeiti.m.)
- But,' Gentlemen, when men, having. gained pe,
'pularity, are found by the public to have been pro.
.fessingand talking only about principles ; and that
the people have but been made use of as the mere
'leddet, the stalking Mario, tocupidity and ambi,
'dun; groates was' that) approbation, in the MS
instance, still greater' has unite:filly been their cgs,
tempt nfindiviiloals so completelydespicable. fAitul
approbaliou].—Gentlumen,itls mighty cenvealeat
fur these corrupt apostates to talk of the Ackleasst
of popular applause, but if we examine into the us., ..
titre of these caMplaints' it will be found gtestlieg
resalable the feelings of a landsman going to stl4l I
When the vessel first begins to most, lisp Acialli.
the cattle, the houses, and the there, all seem .rder
ceding from him, uncoupcieus as he is of she WI.
Lion by which ho is impelled, eed believiik I
himself to be stationary, Exactly of this natio* 1
is the delusion of the political apostate..-of the: .:
man who deserts the cause 9f the pimple' for Ohl
corrupt allerements of the I'r:eatery, end aI. itk •
CiPlgion in the leerier' of Gorerineent, 'fifth e
non either Necker, or:pretands to fancy,
...iliac he.
himielf remains precisely its he was, stetionary in
interests and in plifieip7et..:while the peeple tips
deserted him. -But, (death:men, ' that man ksitict
.left you, endeavours by-this 'convenient _doctrine.
of the is k knees of impala! applause, to IP ita veil,
over your eyes, by imputing to you, that cheep,
which has been experienced only by himself.:
[Loud applause.] Gentlemen, whether it be.
right or wroeg, this is my idea Of popularity,
which, although it is a subject not mistletod olik
that of this Meeting, I have, nevertheless, frog the,
,very atiatige doctrine that his hietv 'OOOopeceil,i
thought it a convenient' opportunity •tie tottke...
Gentlemen,- I- have already detained. pot lirgeri
then is
your' consistent with pottage% t,istit.:74peit
ability, feeling, ail do, the waft of , bia,
a recent indisposition ; and I willrbsiesidirose 'a'
.whiii remains itef me to *say: In *terittng yc4
thy thenksitir the expressions of approbation with,
which yew hail lionyuredme, I cannot refrain from,
a:protein' to you, skit the part which j have taken,
in tile transactions which give rise to this Meeting,
Mill, to the last hour of my life, be to me a source.
yr pride sad consolation. Geattensen, I int 114
the honour of meeting yon in this room at s' pr,
piad of disturbance and of great dissension- .4 rca;
she Public and the Proprietors or tiro itrof,,,c•
Viarturit a Oran litilforiblitiei, ill,
io common with every other person, *oaf
,deplored. For myself, I certainly /111/L par
some measure; brought forward enwilliug , and
was induced reluctantly to take the • —but,
bring placed in that sitestion, I did 64,041
that could tenth to widen tae brash, tuft. le:
extite disturbanee--so far from isaukag egret*
' in such. a eharacter, I, on the enotteil% V., thlt
pleasure of believing, that my healable elfogts lama,
contributed to restore peace and harnieltyletntec'
the Public and the Proprietots efarleg.';.l.
it Covent Garden. . Gentlemen, .1 onesim
reedy, from thenbottomof my hearklforeketten•
lion with which you have heave redinroied kW!
to hate the honour of drinking iii lame t 1",
• The applause daring this speech led' . a4vl
I occasional interruptious, but the leaseg.:
.14:Idiot/
Which tolloawal, when Mr. atoseek,letalivis, •
i
was more detickd than any CR' blliTeitittOMPlr
t, pubic. .. , . .. •
.1, )(s
i outliniast then relP, whciseeemc we JO":
a Mr. DONNAS:, of thy r01it,0144. and
_ have to colograiolkte Abu coin pony an fDa
accomplishment of the igreis trend; original ]elkiect
if their .tweeting, IL gave him ervet PAWNro
reflect en tin happy results of - Owner tail aii ".
Ind he WO no le# pleased, .41 the auhtitit. al-
isement, ilia% se nosey individes:ts gat 444'10
should hive crowded together for the P"f'
'Celebrating i'hi 410'. feet; iliileaclPl'dtbat
.bt:glt effected. lilt tiust•A that so much litre.

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I 1014• Vl' li, r es wrowe.rnatent, nor is it necessary for its interests rimy donsong, illich on atett......(Thwee.i—gaski.
rime bead - Itted,. that it should. To drop, therefore, the false famii-Oluot idfach iomewhere. Let it attach the
the construction term of representative, and all the errors which w.h.rek wabeat 4t; And let it shine not as a brill.
Sods. a malice it is calculated. to produce, and to.apaak in.the )lint and luminous planet; but as a dim sad
morialists.to such true langstageof the Civil and Militifty ' . as... pile *ale, around the, livery head of his- wag
ittellaga:That tle (inn of these Provinces, the Prraidaillin suoiii,i, JIMA utter such 11-,calUnsity.—[Mr. Cliffor4
til;
troy consituction who caassitiltva the mite military •as - oleo : -Civil wet here interrupted by an unilatsal burst o
liper, sidled, 'us Government atf the Country, is charged* ei approbation, which continued several nanores.
re Of a powerful hand, with the dety.of regulating the for I have but one more observation to make
licit expression of the public goad, and, on -the ottegimilladlion, it is on the subject of popularity, which, tboug
• .fully and astir, of providing. thir for the interests of
.iii. army nut imediatcly connected with tee object u( (hit
:•!..11 alvprilify. is_ however_ ennneetetl In •a r.... 4.:. A-

•my, in diatio,st from ning seek *lds 411 * vary trod, but certahtly Which f
general Aortic"; of Go. wbry o*Ni* eitiOseionv-P" Thoti die vas mor
min Chiefoaa4Ateau &smilers 0 other; itse• attsekedi• .--.. Aestd.iii,
delegate,' asttlfsc • the; ifiteeb somewhere---fit must • fell eit*! , . ilms 'A Go
is MC 1
. characiart,ths • amused er oili .44 occusei."
..' Now, . -- ed was a
the Eastlrtadia,- . ttemen, I hay:9ll4 honour of your art 4, beggad I
tation. He is Abe get' —1 byre evel.tffe Aihority -of She. Preprielfroit eiesionpii
m Civil, es heisfal the and &tanagers ofAlisi Theatoe—and, what is still at their
Tatty, nud will% *liege- mores rfiase do •iiitlrrity .or• thilupde vuici, to retiee
popalatiuutEurlean. ~146% tie, grknfor twOla: Laiirri /41-tiojuitify 'ag, Anfil
s subject tu-tbr netii- me-inibilieving, that iirfatity dues not attadion my adverthe
.13ekt the army. brie no *conduct in these transactions—[P/et no! Itinoera. mind she
able, c'aim upon the -81e,'indep'eldent !]qctittegorn,'; lave the soon, au. iiiiie, o'l
iii Chid' as * sembcc thurity of the public voice tut asiciting, that in. .aimi Itmt