The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-06-03 00:00:00

TILE STATESMAN.

„be.. for the lust of lath they sever ought to have
sectove.l.
MO. FORSTER said, the Commissioners of Ra.
xpity hsrl reremmenilerl a yen large reduction of the.
fee- ; but at the same time they had recommended
ce......esafioe In the present Ogicers.
V BLAKE defended ihe conduct of the
afirers of the Irish Chancery Court. It hqd been*
.hat ogle Ofs, er received as a fee 4271. It
•Ito have been staled that 3271. of that mosey
sear in the venue of the country ;he was fearful
pnwlpilenct in this ease wools! du much harm. Ile
r.,...s,m►nr4d d•tioeratios; and st►ongls urged that
if,h• BM was wow brought in, It sbuald be printed
end 40 is., to the twit Sfssion,
Mr. V. FITZGERALD could not agree to post.
poM 114 e Bill till hest Session. He thought it should
6 little... Ted in with.•at delay.
Lem „„ t6eo ciiotl 10 bring in the Bill. _ _

MA; GRA:IIf then moved fur a similar Bill for
pegoldlog the ',moire of the Court of Eacheysor lo
. _ _

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few weeds, frees Se J. NEWPORT, Mr.
L 11,041111. Ike. loot, was given.
Mr. C. GRANT then wised Resoletions respect.
kg die ljght if Ireland, similar to those already
rioted rripeetfaig the Berk of Eogland.
favigi resolved late a Committee, the
Rta..letlites Wire read.
Se N. PARNEL seaaestell, that Os Beak of Ire.
Ist .1 sk' aid be @tinged to pay in bullion, or iu 13184
of Ei•rlesd notes, a mousse• which *weld facilitate,
the reruittaores of unary from ibis country to Iro-
ise".

Mr. C. GRANT .id, the lion. Baronet's sugges-
tion woold k a sohjeet far future consideration.
Tim Rosieloions were agreed to, tad the Report
ordered to bo eureka to.toorrow.

BARON hrtALLAND.
Mr. R MARTIN said he we' fully aware of the
sub asidness of the sitestion in which us stood, bring.
frit totem] a charge against a Learned Jule. Aware
of the s'ilficolty of his Winans', be bad reduced his
charges against the Learned Judge late writing, and
would now, with the leave of the Reese. lay them on
the Pottle He had five or sit persons io the Grollery—
Order. order He brined pardon of the House. He
• Id Si, in I, to City of Westminstee He would ask
At'orney oat Ragland what hi would think of •
Jo (IV. who. wog to a country town to trs an in.
formed. os, should, presto's tp the trial commencing.
and • bats of aoldiers to clear the Court, and bow-
leg dome en, to place sentinels at the door of the
Curl, to rotten' 110.1_onoen'etiog without hi. lute
This, buarrap., Hiroo M'Clellawd had done. lie had
been icciised of brlngiag forward au unfound-II
eh•our against the Leatard Judge; if It shook! so
Wear. he • • reedy in confess be stood open to the
B• v. WI creel'', Of
.1! Howse. The Hon. Member
Own ',wooded to detail to 'he Hour, the conduct of
Barn. 1111•0•Itood towards him in the promotion of
bir Hush; eat' to accuse the Learned Judge of ty-
s nt.*, oppiesionia, and • breech of law ice his combat
tee.rda Mm (Mr. M•rtin), who on that occasion ass
promos.. ; and reminded by misting for leave to
by 6.n to. table charges to that effect avian the
Learned Jolt.

The Chore.. h-ving bees and by the Clerk.
Mt. MARTIN m wed. first oh- Hesse shoeld thir
de) lortnig"l resolve itself jute a Committee to coo
lid., lip rh4re•.

I.o►d CAS fl-FRFAGII mild have bat sine ob.
kis in ci.•w ..n this .•rcaaiou as a elide for his con.
duct, oho. was to preserve pure the .d. inittration of
p btu- jos i.r. He felt, however, that the present
coos was not a common Goo. The Wu . Memo*,
bisri.elf meat be aware that be was now aboat to tiy
an io•sie between the Learned Judge an•l himself
The Howe did not 'eel.. the conduct of the .I.ligs
an) thing that called on them to interfere Baum
Di•Ctellsnd we• joined wish soother Judge; soil I.
11. use ass., the• the one J-afge could not be in, Is.
wi."••et the n•her, against whom no charge of cm-
ru:.10,4% was mule A contrariety of opinion esiste.
as •o the Aidseit, and the Houk coold not interfere
as In the roller/revs of a point of law. T' • c•
took place fve years Bgn, • nil eh^ lion. C.nt.th ter
not a Member s f the last Parliament, might haws
brought the case forward in his individual capacits
In Ireland troops were seen in the Court-bastes fo.
she like of keeping order. The whole molted it
se f into a case of leg:: practice. The Home w. •
in the 141110 viste as on a tosser night, and saw no
poor of corrupt prar•ice on the past of th • Judge
Ile hoped the lion Gentleman would withdraw Use
charge.

Mr. MARTIN should yield to the suggestion of
the Nol,e [Aid, as his we character would be in
no wise comproo.ispd. He woeld 6: no day for thv
investigetion of the chow ; and the Judge might
►are forgot that the affidavit had been made. Ile
le.seldley the charge on the table, but take no fur
err steps in it.
Lard. CASTLEREAGH said, that if the charge
mes laid on the table, it meat be investigated.
M►. MARTIN would not withdraw the charge,
let should not (ippose any elation to that effect.
Mr. Into WN LOW thought the charge s►ould be
imetieatert, sties it bad been brought forward.
The SPEAKER said, that some farther steps
■at he taken in the matter of the charge.

Sit J. STEWART mimed the making tech a
chow at tech a length of them Had the Judge
6.0 the Non Gttntlernan, he woeld hate depitted
from the oviform prsettre of she Court. ID boating
a IPPVIOII who had vr• I:ott‘t) been beard by Cnees.4.
The How* twos boun.l to belie... shot the Jude. seed
• •••041 situ rittiost. lie should sole that the charge
be rj.ctm

Mr. MARTIN had orc•ded to the ni•h of the
&Mrs Lord, in not 1iz:,74 a cloy for the invrotigo.
ti.o of tit► chores; ht Itch he et ott!d not him elf
nose tholtk elt.tr.:o .tmuid he otithdrann. It. had
lewd no aeriesr nt i.• 1.•.011r of th• ivg• liti* of lbe
eondoct of the Joettre. Ile •.hou'J not of pose tor
Notion.

"r• CrikWFORI) holy Iraq moony to the merits
0 BUM. X1'001161141 [MO chortle was then re-
rely&

- 6;d 'ALTUORP the oferind reocliog of
tie losolo.ot Woe ••• Geti.
A1d.,4.• AITIIMA se:tl, prr.ent N..hjrct
00.7.104. lati.ape • Ile. In t •• "I
tosr ),84. hod hero 4isehlrowi 1411,..a.
ttd semi mad to ten e!Itol:s autl the Art had

*belly failed fake operations. as up..n the sem of 10
millions only 00.0001. had been received in the shape
of dividends. The whole of the Committee bad ad.
milted the inefficacy of the Act. In the space of two
leers 41001. bad been received in the shape of fees ;
14001. of which bad gone to the Commissioner' 10001.
to the Chief Clerk ; end the son of the Chief Clerk,
'aka a poem man, bad received 10001. in addition
to his salary. In the time of the late Commissioner,
lierjeant Palmer, so fees bad Iwo allowed to be taken.
The debtor did not obtain his discharee till he had
paid,. sum, half of which went to the Commissioner,
and the either to the Chief Clerk. The whole was a
scene of estravapnce and profligacy, and the Com-
mittee came to a conclusion that the Act should
expire.

Mr. CALCRAFT thought the principle of the
present Bill shosid be investigated,lnstead acriminating
the last, as bad been done by the Worthy Aldermen.
Much was to be amended in the present Act, bat the
principle bad been retained in the present Bill, and
many who had been formerly adverse. had now be.
come friendly to the principle of the Hill. He coati
net approve of the Commissioner taking fees ; but
the Chief Clerk had only a salary of 4001. a per.
and that certainly was too smell fa► a man who gave
ep the whole of his time to the business of the Quest.
A creditor might eit►e► make his debtor a bankrolls',
or allow him to go into the lesolvent Court. lie did
not approve of baring three Commissioners in the
Waco of one.
Mr. J. SMITH had heard with much pain the evi-
&ace gives in the Committee on tn. subject of fees.
He was sanguine as to the good effects of t►e pre.
sent Hill. should it pass into a lan.
Lo►d AI.THORP had, in the present Bill, taken
care that no tees should be taint.

The Rill wee the:. read a second time, committed
pro forma the Report received, and ordered to he
tak►a iota Nailer consideration on Teem:ley.
Mr. PEEL moved the gemmed ending of the Beak
Cm% Pa neat-' Bill.
Mr. ELLlCEstated his intention to move, in the
Committe, that fa t►e mouth of Octnber, 1820, the
Beak should pay for their notes in at the
rate of SI. 17e. 10d. per ounce, or is the current Coin
of the realm.

In answer to a question from Mr. GRENFELL,
it was stated by Lord CASTLEREAGH, that the
in of February had been reenmetended i)y the Com-
mittee, to prevent all delusion on oho subject, aid to
show that no further esteaason of time was intended
to be allowed for the operation of the Ball.
The Bill was then read a secoud time, and vomit.
trod for so-sorrow.
Toe Silk Maiefactorers' 801 l was committed for
10th of Jul..
On the motion et the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, the House went tutu a Committee
on the Menai Strait Bill.

The Committee agreed to as additional postage of
aiipenny on each single letter, owii.penre no ri.tch
dosUe letter, sod in proportion on all letters to and
f►om Ireland, In order to assist in delraying the ea•
pence of the linlyhead-road and illenst-bridge.—The
Report wee ordered to be wetted this day.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT gm notice, that he
shoeld (this day) ni..ye for en accunot of ell addl.
tie, tel money Airfoil on letters from Huarth to Dab.
lin, since the removal of the packets from IVaterford
to How t h.

Nir. MILNE intered for Aecoents of the quantity
of Cotton Wonl imported and exported for the last
?sir, with the Dudes pant thereon.—Ordered.
Mr. BEIM:DEN, in the alssenre ut L.rd Cas-
tleresgh, gave mom., that it was the Noble Lord's
baenticn to nose to motto+ that the ileum at its
risiett sheold adjourn sill Monday pelt.
Adjourned at 0.4 o'Clock.

ADDR ASS or ram Al ANGIIRSTRR PA.
TRIOTIG UNION SM. lE7'Y To 11.11UNT, Es..

MAR 5111.—At a time when the cruel and wicked
to.onderings of the fioronimosgers stand coespicu-
ugly ezheb.ted in the stint sl..ery, said in the ge-
neral sod deepest poverty of themes' industries' and
ingener.us peep!, that 'ter 'Meted in eny see or tea-
floe ! At a time when the Pre.. and the Pulpit teem
'kb the most vile gird violent obese against all then
who advocate the inalienable Illzhts of Man, sod
the principle+ of Minn and of eaten. Al a time when
the spleorliti adherent., supporter', and jackals of
the reinnes ayst•m, our greet merchants end trade.-
men aro tumbling into nee, and their hollow great-
nrill is deaconry! in their deep insolvency:—at such
a time, we, the Maochester Patriotic Union Society,
A,lvecatesef Universal Selfrege, Anneal Parliaments,
and Election by Ballot, deem it our imperious duty to
impress Noyes', the high mu we entertain of the Gni-
-I..rea ,aid intrevid manner in which you have capon.-
ed said advocated the above-mentioned principles ;
principlei, on the ozonise of whirls depend the wel-
fare and general happiness of this long elected
People.

We can never forget, end we hope the P•oplu of
&gland will never forger, bow you, and you slime,
obeyed the call, and magnanimously complied with
the request of the distressed people who satishiod
at Spa-fields: how you, arid you singe, conveyed
their deep complaints, as near the Throne as ynis
could get access: how you, and you sinus, of all
the great ones we invited, came to aid and grace our
last Public Meeting ; year valuable and di.tingelsbed
services, on which occasion, will never be erased
from oar memory, nor removed fr. rn our grateful
hurts; sod we confidently hop► and trust, that you
will some the first opportorrity, to resent to the
lame. Ktapor, 'Le ettpre•sinn of our complaints and
grievance>, as sewed i t the [lemon ttttt lee that day
sailchoiled b) the trosromoul spin( vii of ITII
Petit it 1.1 to es/trevi r ur rev., and at the
scanitokus awl out fir.l•o•9 3.144%01 elMlidited ovine
)us el Cl'' thentte ; and nut delootati-o of the in.
taro.us p•rprt Onts ther•of, a hyther in high Of 1014
life ; but to tooth,. )our vundrd feelings, allow us
to tn. al to r.-ollertion. 5, • univeis II eapressinu
f ;Tr ots• r ion, whirk Irolitia (wiles!) and rep-..wily
bars tomb Irnni the WI fißlig Y.S.lllllind tlf our Public
Srniinc, All qte,o.,t of ) our magnanimous and pa.
if ...ndoct.

l'Perr t ll', 'kn. •iprowt not abl....m.pre it th•
up•gl4,:vell le.stmetit, .11
e):.:ectd at 1. a tut Wei„piaster Eitc:tun j sad

allow es to state to yea the high and grateful seas,
we entertain of y °or intrepid and persevering ex.
ertions on that ocessioa, in favour of that tenorstile,
indefatigable, and most onquestioaable Patriot sad
Philanthropi,e, htsjnr Cartwright.
Fully sensible of the rarity aid Inestimable utility
of such distinguished Patriots es yourself ; and also
sensible of the ionumerahle difficulties sects reliable
characters has, to encounter, and the maidfold and
imminent dangers they ton, in defending the nose of
troth, of justice, and of the welfare and hoppinese of
the People: we cannot, conclude, without espressing
our grateful thanks for your past and unequalled ea
*Moos in thecae's of political reforosti•in ; and ea.
Goring you of our highest apprnbstii.n sod support,
so long as you continue the distinguished and intrepid
champion of ear cause; that is, the cause of Unite'.
sal !iodine and Anneal Parliaments.
That you may happily live to see Owe principles
brought into weal operation, in nor once happy,
het item unpremeditatedly 'Mutable errantry, is the
fervent mists .r, Sir, your must grateful and respect.
fel fellow-taboo rtes.

Signed eo behalf of the bloreing,
JOSSPH JOHNSON. Chairman.

TO JOSEPH JOHNSON, ESQ. CHAIRMAN OF THE
elAbCtlEtTElt I'ATNIOTIC UNIO% SOCIETY.
Man Ste,—Will roe do me Ike favour to inform
the Members of the Manchester Patriotic Union So-
ciety, that I received their very tattering and (in
these times of general distrust) most heart-cheering
address. To possess end retain the good *Osloe and
confidence of the Reformers of Gencarhire, the
Friends of Universal Soffrage, Annual Paella.
men's, and Flection by Bellot, is to me a source of
great gratificatio,i; end, in my estimation, ono of
the most disilegelahed honours that can be conferred
upon an Englishmen. My humble exertions bay
ever been directed to obtain for my fellow-et:matey-
see the blessings which are common to all, end which
we are all equally entitled to, the " blessing. of
freedom." I never have yet, end I troll that I never
shall for one 1160Wel wish to obtain that for myself,
which I would not risk my life to obtain for every In-
timates' fellow-crestere. Whew I was at Manche'.
ter, the kind and entbesiastie expression of public
hi, ortich was then bestowed upon me, by all
rinks of Reformers, made a deep and indelible im-
pression upon my heart, which will never be oblite-
rated from my memory while I hese breath ; het the
repetition of your kindness, conveyed in the hand.
so.e testintoniel I have jest received, will be en ad-
ditional stimulus, if any were wanting, to • life de-
voted to the cause of truth and justice. God willing.
In.morrnst I will take your Rem•in,tranre to Lord
Sidmooth, and es the organ of he Manchester Meet-
ing, demand, in the name of a brave bet seffeting
People, that it may, *Wiest delay, be presented to
his Royal Highness the Prince Regent ; at the same
rim., I will deliver him the Stockport Petition. Permit
me In congratulate the Friends of Refers, in Lan-
cashire, upon the mortal blow that has, doting the
last week, been given the Paper So indling System.—
I m) dear iir, tour's, meet sincerely,
Lantlao, May -5. Mt 11. HUNT.