The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-11-30 00:00:00

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Council, for the purpose only of obtaining the'
most formal and authentic statement of the fact; to
this point their pe,wer was limited, and they of
course proceeded to make their Report without
furtheeaamittation. But at this (lay we behold cis
authority
limited try law, exerediag every pewee.
and every prittilege attaching to them, and the ex-
cess of such authority subseyaently made the amend--
by. Ministeva for the conenrrence of Parliament to
their proposition. Let in ask, of w'. it value can
the Report of that burly be with your Liirdthil;s,
whichyvessfeaes. to put itself in a state of sovereigety •
above yesir Monarch ? And here I beg leave to say
one word-to the Noble Earl (Liverpoolr opposite, in
iefestabee to t!eu ;Observations whiclrfell from him re. •
strit!tat thimltedipfesasittowsomied Whistle!? oft ii at
great matlisi-abliaelimortte.:ll4t-dommettes proposed'
' by the servants of the crown, its the year 1789.
It dues so happen, by Me decree* of Providence,
that of all* those distinguished persons who sat
in the Cabinet of that day, there is left in this
1 world hut one individual remaining to defend their
i measures and explain their motives. I believe
I there is. no man now in existence more capable
of stating the principles that governed my illus.
trious departed friend (Mr. Pitt), the motives by
which be was actuated, or the great and important
objects to which his exertions were directed. If I
were willing to. take advantage of the knowledge
which I must have of all the circumstances of that
period, I might strengthen, even by such examples,
the course I now pursue; but, my Lords, when I
feel it right to abstain from such a hue of conduct,
'it is hard that those not in possession of such know.
rage, should now form and communicate opinions .
on etie events of that illy, not founded upon the
public proceedings of the period, but upon sup.
posed intentions. During the discussions of that
periodrthere never was a word insiutsafed to convey
that the Report of the Privy Council was sufficient -
to enable the States of the Realm to form a •judg..
-ment. I know that no fair inference can be drawls
froM unauthenticated records of the proceedings oft •
Parliament. I ant sure it would be •as unfair tot .*
decide, from such documents, what were the. obi • ' -
serrations of Members in the Debates of WOW 4
days, as your Lordships waidd feel it to have youi '
own statements judged from the newspapers of to.
morrow. I make no isiviilions comecut upowsuch • . •
publications, because I Gan attribute such %effects
to the impediments which your Lordships yourselves
have thrown in their way, combined with the dit .
i
culties inherent in the thing. itself. Batt even 4,, • . -
• rr '"
what has• appeared tteinirthe proceedings of that
period, there is nut a trace of any such course be.
ing insinuateid. Considering the constituent parts
at a hich that. Ctiuncil is composed, it could nut be.
. Those who are.honoured with 4 seat is that buily,eve •
called, upon, their-oath, to advisp the King, whoa
in shall thigh; Ilt to-ask fez their advice. They are
invested with die exercise of cartaili authuaitiet, both
limited end, defnad., In what part of•Alieir.voins. .
leilssion„wt their oath,. or their authority.is it, 1.614:
laserteak thiethey shell • keels watch asahwasd owe
the: Ring's mental capacity, or sthati:.ie • place, Si
doing thatelone,• which• ought .to be. the step fez
laying :the foundations of our crew proceedingeo
•they shill, arrogate the power of prodeeding into
their examination of the melancholy details .of
'ugh an important question ?• • This, ray. Lords, .
-4: the sole duty. elf the States of . the ..Realm--it.
pea:ditty Impossible. furoyour Lardshipt to efele.
gods tU ether% itiLone which you yonriblvee hold
lay.dolegaiints, being a betty bar), and freely ram..
piing the Staten. 4.4, this .Realm. • In the. shut.
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,) ain which you notektand4 the question is not,
et
witetkee you shell,delleresiatawalway-wr the ot.her ;.
your Tint, . your onlyralety is to take that step
upuq which your future inquiry must rest. And
mast justly /twit therefore been stated by my,
Noble Friend (Mulra),near me, when he arbverved
.that,:eten were he friendly to the proposed Ad,•
jourenient, it was •till impossible to accede to it,
Oil thafset stated in that report was aseertainede
by yourselves and recorded in your own Junritals‘
' Even, my Lords, if that extraordioary doctrine Was;
true, that in • tile Cabinet were centered all the.
poser and influence, and importance of the I;xecii.•
tire Fimetious, before we can do homage to lien
Roc created Kings—before we set aside the law.
fel Monarch, and proper! for the legal eeercise at
Iris servants," ILA iuquicy to be made by your.
Lordsliipe is absolutely necessary. I ant, my
Loads, et present. unwilling to go into tau (Neb.!?
11011, whether in the establishment of thole facie per • •
(meta to ailiourreor nut. Upriutitis point, I eecteent
tailt lily own .opinion. That opinion it is unuetessary. •
now to eomnimaicate,. because I liavu already stated
to you the groilmis of my opposition te the present.
motion of the Noble Lord opposite, and should be.
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sorry to rest it upon any °thee.-- There •are some.
illeiti.:llt4 topical... Upon which lam anxious to say,
'a few words. It has-been hinted, that this night a
Noble Earl (Westmoreland) lots advanced iiii opi-,
Leion-thet the Lou). Chancellor would have beets ,
!.justified in akilog the Great Seal without the Sign.
Itinual a the Kine.
,-- Eari.WVISTMORELND rose to order, apd
said the Noble Berlin was misinformed.-
. lord G ri, ENV-ILEA les timed. The:Noble Eail
, hal ea Wel tit ortlersithoatt convicting me of a breach
iof it:
whathele
.ldititias
misinformed
.ovto;l.4dourehet.4.l.di4!n-owtaisbiii
‘pr‘lw as to
rwrek:.
iceecasi.ist me wits *hat be realty did state oe that sub"
Lad W ESTAICHALA ND.rthaerverl, tht he lead
'only said that hitinienws could have availul them.
iseleepof such a ittClas!Ce, („untied upon precedent ;
' hot that thcy acrY Preperly did not. . ,
• . Lord.GRENYILLE.—The Noble Earl arre.
getieler himself anti colleagues that they had under

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