The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-02-20 00:00:00

eat above two beers previously. and 400 he had mod dos.
lath" cot bad -Mk/cm time be Enke himself mem of 'brie
comems. They were. boome r. eery hasablY "kid"' bad re-
opectfally worded. Ooe of them was from a perms of the
4iteiewl Knight. of wheat be had never before 'heard, clad the
lakefront a perm, of the IWO* or ititebrA. to wlaNt
ter vogue iperhaps esfewedird) report. hid attached sespicteess
toe be begged to pretest against the demise that Ajectsnais
typing the moral elastomers of iadividvals wet* to steerali
Opine the priaeipiss which they sea gat to montsaia. It wan
trite that permits to the sitaatim of tie Petitimen might ea•
demur se pot that 1111111-abell in the not faiVaalitaie paint of
Mew. be etnecteratiog the hsrd.hipa they . bad catered. sad
sopperstiog tram made aga Mt them; bat hibalid he•at tbe""e
time. recolleeied. that there were other penises aecocad abash
salailemmoson abode it aternielln were Oa algalle•allt to he re-
tained with gnat ladalgesee, sad he oely dabbed the same la-
d for the Petisioaers.
ikiessiteEtwithip thee prmeisted a Petition from John Kaiebt. of
likerebestee. and Joseph fliteleq, of Liverpool. the latter of
Ales stales his having iatreilleced Wear. al the retreat of who
lager, into some iseettalp of lkformers (denier Prune's hose
hellithese 4/livid.* were mewls, a thessllstese or,
,Csilimese and eta. se hmarese An me rides-
maohiry. Repsietel. Wish mime se me remoituchell.
Lord Holland vowed. that several of the Matimeats la it ameld
be verified by prams of respeetabiatf.
The Petitions were road and ordered to lie es the table.
MOIIO3I FOR REFERRING A PETITION JO THE
SECRET COMMLTThI.
The Order of the Day fauvism been teed,
Toe Earl of CA RNA RVON said, be bad present-
ed a Petition a few days since from an individost,
complaining of having been unjustly imprisoned ; cnd
he had thought it so much a matter of course to refer
each a complaint to the Secret Committee, that he
was about to make the motion immediately, not con-
alit ing there could be any objection to it. It was at
the request of his Majesty's Ministers that he post-
poned his motion till this day. With regard to the
Petition he had presented, it contained allegations
which certainly deserved enquiry. As to their truth,
it was impossible for him to answer. Had it been his
1 intention to move for a specific enquiry, it might be
necessary for him in that case to pledge himself to the
facts contained in the Petition, but such oas not his
ohject. They had appointed a Secret Committee;
they were told by his Majesty's Ministers, for the
contents of the Green Beg were kiloton only to a
few, that the whole of the conduct of Government
would be laid before that Committee—that the whole
esposition of the internal state of tbe country stable-
quint to the passing of the Act would be submitted
to their inspection. The investigation, such as it
was, had already commenced ; and the only qeestion
I was with respect to the reference of those Pc itions
to this Committee;—it was simply, whether they
would go into enquiry upon the evidence of Ministers
I themselves, or whether they would prosecute it in
1 the only way that could lead to any useful results.—
' [near, Amur!]—flea Majesty's Ministers had told
him that they 'mete review their conduct—be w Gold
say let them do so. It was not for him to assert that
their conduct would be found reprehebsittle., on the
emotrary, be impel' that it would be justified by n;;
(fairy. Bet of this be was sere, that if the Govereol
meet were in earnest when they challenged Investige.
lion, if they were truly easier: to maintain a cheer
character in the opinion of the country, they mast
go to the Committee, cot with evidence prepared
by themselves, to be estimated by a tribunal no.
minated and packed by themselves, bet with
their evidence compared sod confronted with
such other evidence as might be collected from sources
independent of their hideout", and even adverse to
their justification. It had transpired, and was now
generally known to the Public, that there was not a
single name on the Committee, which was not con.
tanned in the lists drawn up by Ministers. If Mini.
stern were innocent, shookd they not rejoice et the
opportunity of vindicating their proceedings, by dim.
proving the facts alleged against them? If they
were guilty, where was the hope that they wrsuld
bring from their own offices the proofs of their offence
Was it not more natural to suppose that they would
overlook the serious charges, if not intentionally,
through neglect or mistake, and call upon the House
to concur its their justification by making them par-
ticipators in their ignorance ? Di what they would,
it was impossible for Parliament to take any thing
out alb, Green Beg but e hat Ministers had put
into it.—[llear, hear !] —Was this no reason for
the exercise of caution, and even jealousy, on the
part of the House? If they left it to the discretion
of those Gentlemen to prepare not only their own
case, but the whole of the evidence by which that
wee was to be tried, they might trust to Heaven for
jeetice, bet they might depend upon it that such
facts would only find their stay into the Committee
as were most favourable to parties on their defence.
He would ask them to look hack a little on their
proceedings; but a few days had elapsed, when it
was found that the first Green Bag would not he
IMlficiest for thejestification of Ministers. Another
was consequently produced. Was it nut possible at
least, arguing from this instance, that a third Green
Bag might be isemitnary, might not additional evi-
dence be still required, if they wished that truth
should be the result of their *investigation ? Much
of the importance of the enquiry depended on the
object which the Ministers had in view. An en.
quiry had been made on the first day of the Session,
to ascertain what that object was. No one could give
information. They were all ignorant who the Members
of the Committee were to be, and therefore ignorant of
the ultimate proceedings which they might recommend
in their Report. Bat the delusion was sten through
The Cementite Were appointed by tininess% sad the object is
view was—let them contradict hiss if they amid --a Hill of
la-
demaity. The invest igatitio traf. mot a tame matter of cariosity.
bet was to be the fooodatioo of me of the stroogest measure.
that Parliament essehl adopt- that of Outing tbe done jostler
against prows oho west supposed so he stusseest. If moth
was the Mint iatealkd to be adopted with regard to these ea-
formame permits. it sibould be openly rift orsefolly stored.,
(Rears Weill—me, should be told distiaeliy. that there was
nu redress for diem 4 the ortheary Tribomds of the Country—
that the melee, of Parliameat was directed to protect Mini-
sten I het that Millrace was to be deaied to the second, even
to the extent of feinting with scent to hear the melamine*
which *fry were salieitoos to afford. Such was the Mote which
they wen to iltlemilm Rim eight. If they refused to refer the
illetitima tr *oatmeal/sec shay week, go the leagth of
to bring is a Ern of
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