The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-07-10 00:00:00

THE FI'ATESIVIAN.

cosoof one floa-rmw.cz, who had bean s printer or VIII
for for the Pittites, or INNS ; and who, finsily, got at

payers written by the INNS &nil showed them to the
OUTS. This BORT HWICIIN treatment by the Liw
Officers received a description from Mr. Aro:at:nom
ass which displeased. it appear., two of those I.aw
Officers ; Mr. JOHN Here and Mr. W11.1.1t3t Mas-
stas. The e two gentlemen have resented this den
scription of their conduct. Mr. liner has fortslishe4
a pamphlet, which we have not seen ; hot which was
described, and quoted from in the House, in wee
part of *Lich pamphlet, he aecuses Mr. Aosta-
CROKIIIK of perverting the privileges of Parlia-
ment, in order to aid the private action of a
political associate; and he says to Mr. A/17.RCROMIlle,
"it is pouible that the wilful unisreprepentatione
" of others may have induced you to think yourself
" se/e; he the grounds of that attack." We have ant
time to quote farther ; bat, upon reading the whole
of the violation, we have no hesitation to declare. that
the writer of the pamphlet does not mean personal
safety ; and yet such is the interpretation which would
appear to have bees given to it ; and in this light It
seems to hare been regarded by Mr. Anenenosiate.
After a good deal of discussion opus the subject. Lora
Bfeettio declared, in the name of Mr. Hort. that
every word of the latter or p.mplilet was written by
that gentleman. This was perfectly manly and bee
nourable on the part of Mr. Hope. The House then I
came to a decision that Mr. Hors should be called to
the Bar; and be is to attend accordingly. this day
se'anight. The House first declared the pamphlet to
be a breach of the privileges of the Houle —So much
for the history of the proceeding as far as regards Mr.
Hoer.—Now comes me. !Hecate'', who had written a
letter to Mr. Anew:Rost a 1 e, and had received an answer
from that gentlemas ; and had then caused they let-
ters to be published in the Cornier newspaper, prefaced
by an observation that the writer seat these letters for
publication in consequence of the report of the speech
lof Mr. AIZRCROMIII havieg been published Ii the
Cormier. After inserting the Letters, Air. Menzies
says, " I shall be content with saying. that, is what
's you put forth as a fair report of Mr. Aneecaostets's
" speech, improper motives were by very strong leaeado
" and implication attributed to me. Stich imputations
" I regard with the most perfect :eora, and I have now
" "hewn, that, whoever was the real author of them.
" they were altogether unwarranted, groundless and
"flehe."—Oar readers will see the whole correspond-
Nue is another part of our paper.—The House
voted that Mr. Al area es, also, should be called to the
Bar.—lt toted that Mr. Aneftenomets should be or-
dared to attend in his place, with a view to prevent a
poesonal renew:dee, or, in plain English, a duel, be-
limo Lim and Mr. Hors. A Messenger was dis-
patebed with the order, who retueled and reported
that Mr. AIIIIRCAOURIE was gone out of town, that he
1 was not expected bark fir tea days, and that his see-
r vast believed he had taken the Barnet rood.—This
affair will, of course, be subject of future discuesion,
and we, of course, shalt have to notice that discussion ;
hat, in the mean while, we cannot refrain cram ob-
serving on certain observations of the ./Iferariag
Smack of this mousing. That paper is become all
,as law, a surprising stickler for parliasisenta7 pri-
vily% while it talks about Tories, calls Mr. W: Coult-
ers:cm who made the motions, a Tory Member; sad
eadeavours to keep up the humbug, which cheated the
Nation for so many years, by *sine the appellations
of Wbig and Tury, between whom, as an Old Histo-
lariats emphatically observes, the Nation suffered. as
oar Redeemer suffered, (retrace* two thieces.—Tlae
Chronicle inserts certain words, which it imputes to
Mr. BROUGHAM, as follows, " if an individual were
" to be singled out by a party, with whom, in the
" fair discharge of his duty, he came in contact, he
" did not see how gentlemen could be found, fear.
" lessly to discharge their public duly, more cape.
" daily, the most invidious parts of it."—Upon
this the Chronicle observes. " the bullying system
" must neither be tolerated towards that House, nor
" towards others;" and it afterwards ebserves. " we hope
" and trust to see pot down a system. which strikes at
" the root of all decency and order." Then there
comes something in the canting, coaxing, E linburgh
Review like style, thus: "indeed the people of Scot-
" land have sufficient candour to acquit the more re-
" speetahle of the Tories. of this country (England)
" of ell wish to countenance this system of violence."
Now, in the first place, we have read the whole of Mr.
MENZIeII publication ; and we have read the extracts
of that imputed to Mr. Bore. The point caper is
uesettleu ; bat if those gentlemen be correct as to the
facts, we give it as our decided opinion, that they hare
been guilty of no breach of privilege. whatever; or,
if they have, then no Illall'r character is safe, who is
ant in Parliament to defend himself, or who has not a
friend there with spirit enough to defend him, or, at
least, who does not find in tire justice of Mine Member.
a deli:ace against the aspersions that may be cast upon
him. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT is bound to attend, to
vote and to do the utmost in his power to defend then
Gentlemen against this charge; fur he Iris always coo-
tended, and, in our opinimis, rightly rontroded, that
nothing was a breach of the privileges of the Hasse
that did not necessarily tend to isterrupt its proceed.''
lags. But, to stop frr short of this, what is the situ.'
ation of the people, if any individual of them may be
assailed, in his private, as well as in his public cha-
racter, by speeches wade in Parliament, and then by
publications made through all the newspapers in the
kingdom ; and liable to be punished by imprisonment,
if be made use of the press to say that the imputations
against him were Aire l' What would have been
Mr. Cosines. r's situation, for instance, if Ile had
been to be punished, for saying, as be did, of
the imputations of Mr. Wouenouse ? There were,
iodeed, Gentlemen in the House, whose Honourable
I feeling led them to say something in defence of the
attacked party ; but when a man had imputed to him,
the base motive, of desiring to excite disercetion
when lie knew that his only desire was to assist is
saving the farmers from rain, was he to remain silent ;
was he to sutler this imputation to be circulated
throughout the kingdom ; awl if he defended himself
by the comparatively small part of the press at his
command, was he to be voted a criminal, and that,
too, by his assailant as well as by others ; and was he
open that vote, to he laid by the heels I The same
observations apply to the gross personal attack made
by Sir Elia ARD BNATCHRCLI.. If Members of Par.
Dement were privileged to this event. the (loose
would him the most odious body of tyranny, that

eery was heard of upon the face of the earth; See* a
privilege would be • messier, indeed ; a privi
leg. to which the Knee himself Las not th.
.eqdlest pretensions. It would coasiet, and inns
he regarded, as a body of liceased libellers. ant
as nothing else. Mr. HOSICISSON stated th.
Case very fairly and eery Ready. he drew the
distinction, which is always to be taken into view,
between a direct personal attack %pea the Mem-
ber, and an attack upon the prblished report. Hr
said, that rrlecting upon a report in a sea spaper was
not reflecting upon as individual ; and he very hilly
concluded, that a proceeding like the present, tended
to wake the Most anseeeraile for the published repeal.
—This was the true around; for, sad we should
observe this well, that if the House deem it a
breach of privilege to eikSttlr• upon a report i
a newspaper. it is itself the origisal offender
I in suffering each report to be published.—The House
seems to have voted, that Mr. Blawstes publication.
" which takes notice of a speech of a Member of ibis
" House, is a breach of its privileges," why then we
are engaged la a breach of its plisileges sew; we,
probably, have net the precise words of this motion ;
fur is it a breech of privilege far us to have taken
the above notice of the speech of Mr. itI:SIIISSON,
who asked this question. " was not an individual at
" liberty to write to the gator of a newspaper. seat-
" log that what he had put forth as the speech of a
" Member of Parliament, contained matter iajnriour
" or untrne?"—Nobody attempted to answer this
question, though Mr. Haocusaaw was preeent, and the
Morning Chronicle has met attempted to answer it
now; and it cannot be answered, otherwise than by
acknowledging that lithe individual has a right,
noises we be willies' to declare as legitimate,
the most odious sad issolent tyranny that ever
existed.—Lord CAST aaaaa or seems to have hoes
anxious about nothing bat preventing the duet;
and, indeed. the conduit of the Ministers and their
people was fair and boomarable all through ; to which
we moat add+ that almost every attempt of thissort to
cramp the rights of the people, has, originated with
the other party. We have sot time for further seer'
meet now ; bat we esaaot omit to observe, that we
eau see no means of jeseification that Mr. Hors and
Mr. Manatee lad, other than those which they have
made use of; and that we do not discover in their
words,auy thing that strikes at that root of all decency
and order, to preserve which the .Werning Chronicle
is so aaziois. We expect better proof of the truth of
the matter, than what can be gathered from a stupid
duel, which is a mode of decision fit to be adopted by
savages, or by swaggering eoscombs infinitely
more despicable than savages. We pretend not to
determine whether Mr. Hors and Mr. Manatee were
falsely or truly accused by Mr. AVERCROMIIII. If
they were truly accused, be, in our opinion, ought to
have takes no other notice of their publications than
by restatement of the truths, if be thought that ne-
cessary. and if the charges were false. sa Ls appeared
to him, upon remonstrance and enquiry.ought, in
oar opinion. Wheys made the licensed parties repara-
tion by an open avowal of the error into which he bad
been led, which he might have dose wittiest the dui-
ger of the slightest imputation of meanness, Incense
both the esetleasen ascribed his statement, and dis-
tinctly eseribed it. to his want of tree information as
to the facts. This. we thick, would have been the
dignified coarse; mash more honourable to Mr. Asia-
CROMBII than any fir leg of pistols, and much better
calculated than the present proceeding, to support the
dignity of the House, and Co prevent its privileges
from becoming a subject of mockery.

The Messenger of the Buse of Commons, who web
to Mr. Abercromby's house last night. and reported
his absence at the bar, immediately after set off in a
post-chaise and four to overtake him, and execote the
Speaker's warrant for his recall. Another messenger
departed at the same time for Edinburgh, to compel
the attendance of the two Scotch Barristers.
It is now said that Parliament will not rise till the
3d .f August. The House of Commons. it is under-
stood, will finish the buskins at present oo its list, or
anatinued for discussion, about the 25th lost., when
it will adjure to the above-mentioned day. During
the interval the Upper House will dispose of the bill.
which are at present on Its table, or may afterwards be
sent fur its concurrence, and oe the 3d the prorogation
will take place by a speech from the Throne. It is al
rare occurrence to see Parliament extending its shawl
into the month of An rost.
Almost the last acts of the Cortes of Spain was to
pass a measure retaliating spun France the effect of
her own regulations on the Spanish frostier.. By
this measure, so long u Prance maistaiss her
mili-
tary cordon on the Pyrenean, and prevents the Intro-1
auction of Spada commodities, except by one route,
Spain shuts her territory against Franca, and prollibiis
all commercial intercoirso by Amps Sc Navarre,
allowing wily mot route apes by Inn. In the sitting
of the 47th. two days before the prorogation. the
Cortes adopted tie report of the financial commission.
and decided in the policy of a 1.4 i. This loan will
amount to about a million and a half sterling.
By the arrival of the mail from Lisbon we have re-
mind accounts of the proceedings of the Portuguese
Cortes to the 20th ult. A matement had been com-
municated of the discovery of the conspiracy, we men-
Gond some lime ago, against the Constitutional Go-
vernment. The proceedings for bringing the persons
arrested on that occasion to trial, were going on with
all due dispatch. It has been decided in the Cortes
that the Brazilia• Deputies should continue acting
as each for the Provinces by which they had been re-
apostively elected, during the next Legislature. It
has bees submitted to the Cones tot ruling a premium
for the best project of a civil code for the Portuguese
tattoo.
Letters from St. Thomas's of the Bth ult, have been
received by the Leeward Islands packet. Adviccs had
reached Careens from the President Bolivar, who
had advanced with a large force as far to the south as
Quito, tating that he had had an engagement in this.
oeighboarbood with the Royalist force under General
3ltugeon, the late tiovernur of Panama, in which the
latter sustained a signal defeat, and was killed in the
action. The accounts from Maracaibo do not confiro
the defeat of neural Morales, which was stated
the American papers to have taken place : on the cow
trary, they allege that he had gained the command of
both sides of the river at Maracaibo, and was able to
I give much annoyance to the In