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LONDON, FRIDAY, JANUARY 17, 1812.

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

To de this was but a natural mode of acting; it was,
however, also desirable to take this course, not
only in reference to the possibility of his Majesty's
recovery, but to another circumstance, namely, that
state of intermediate or partial recovery, which.
without rendering his Majesty capable,of resuming
the reins of power, would make him sensible of his
situation, and the means by which his dignity was
supported. It was better, in case of such an event,
that he should find himself surrounded-by the same
individuals under the same denominations, than by
new officers with new names. In this arrangement,
he thought that the principles of economy should be
looked to, without going so far as to starve the ser-

HOUSE OF LORDS, JAN. 16.

In four Petitions in Appeal, postponed till this day for for-
ther consideration, further time was granted for laying the
printed cases on the Eable, according to the circumstances of
each case.

The hearing of the Roxburgh case, Ker v. Ker, was fixed for
Tuesday next.
The LORD CHANCELLOR stated. that there were 36
Appeals in which the Appelkuste had neither bid their printed
cases on the Table, nor petitioned fur further time. In order,
therefore, to determine what was to be done respecting these
Appeals, he moved, that they he taken into cuasidcrauon on
Monday. Ordered.—Adjourned to Monday.

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HOUSE OF COMMONS, JAN. 16.

Mr. YORKE renewed his notice respecting the vote of Pico- vice and "tint theirrad-Sion should be made as little
men, and stated it fo be his intro:ion to move it to-morrow (Fri- : b -
nr nensorne, in point of expenee. to the people, as
day) in the ' tee of Supply.
Mr. WHAR N hissoglst op the Accounts ecderetl4r,v the possible. The necessity of an addition to the esta-
m House, of at charges of the civil List, ,d of the ex=. blishmetit of the. Prince of Wales was evidentsine
peons of the' Kings Establishment at Windsor-, with several
other Papers Ordered to be referred to the Committee of the he hoped, that if, in the arrangement which e.
whole House, on that part of the Lords Commissioners' Speech should propose, the sum for defraying the expense of
which related to his Majesty's Household.
SUC
Mr. WHARTON brought up Accounts of the outstanding Iwould not exceed 70 0001. that it
h addition ,
Exchequer Bills:. Ordered to lie on the Table, not, be considered extravagant, or more than neces-
on the motion of Mr. ROSE, returns of the quantity of corn, ['liar, hear !] For this purpose, it was his
Shry.
grain, flour, &e. imported in the twelve years,from 1775 to . • .
1786, in the twelve years from 1786 to 1798, and in the twelve intention to propose a Resolution, that an addition of
years from 1798 to 1810,, were ordered to be laid before the 70,0001. a year should be voted to the Civil List. With
,
Home. regent to the regulation of theliousehold, he pro-
ms. Roe presented certain Accounts from the Custom-house,
which were ordered to lie on the Table. posed that, out of the highest officers, one should be
Mr. Hawarden presented the Accounts of the produce of all choseu, who could best be spared from other duties.
Taxes applicable to the Public Service, after paying tbe charges As to the Lord Steward and the Lord Chamberlain,
of the Consolidated Fund.
Lord FOLKESTONE begged leave again to defer the mo- they had many duties to perform ; it was necessary
tion, of which he had given notice, from Tuesday to Thursday !. therefore to pass by them. The next was a Gentle.
neOnxt.
the motion of Sir F. BURDETT, Accounts of the net man of the Bed-chamber, commonly called the Groom
proceeds of the Dutch ships and cargoes, taken under the direct of the Stole; he conceived that he was the fittest per-
tiou and management of the English Nast India Company, and „„;. h..
rut at the head of the new establishments—
of the Danish ships condemned in the Admiralty and V ice-Ad-
miralty Courts, previous to the declaration of war between Eng- ' The officer so selected would necessarily have many
laud and Denmark, were ordered to be laid before the house. duties to discharge he tl:crefore thought/that, in case
He then moved for Accounts of all ships condemned ti the King ,
and the Lord High Admiral iu the Courts of Admiraltyabsence, there should be some person to act as
since of his
the year 1593.—Granted. I deputy; the Vice Chamberlain washhe person whom
Sir J. NEWPORT moved for Returns of the net Produce of he nroposed for this purpose. As to the attendants
the Irish Customs, Excise, Stamps, &c, in the years ending in •
January, 1809, 1810, 1811, and 1812. , on his Majesty, he proposed that there should be four
Mr. BROUGHAM gave notice of a Motion, for Tuesday, . Lords of the Bed-chamber, and four Grooms of the
for Accounts of the Fund of Molts of Admiralty, and returns siss L .
of the vessels condemned, distinguiAing such as had been coo- -u-CisaMDee which number
he considered as not
serenest to the Crown, from those coudeinned to the Lord High I more than necessary and sufficient for the duties
Admiral. I which they had to discharge. lie thought that the
Mr. H. MARTIN withdrew the notice be had given of a mo- •
tion respecting Sinecure Places. Master of the Robes should be continued, as also the
THE KING'S HOUSEHOLD. Equerries ;• two of which Should attend his Majesty,
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE- in such order and rotation as her Majesty should be
QUER, the Order of the Day for the Home going into a Coin-
olittee of the whole House, on so much of the Lords Commis- theaw" direct. It was nec.essay that the Groom
sioners' Speech as relates to his Majesty's Household, was reads of the Stole should 'have the assistance of a Secretary
and the House resolved itself into the Committee. in the discharge of his duties, and that a person
TheCIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQLTER'said, who had been always considered her Majesty's
that in rising to offer to the consideration of the I Private Secretary, should be retained. Ile pro.
Committee a proposition for the regulation of his posed that this portion of the Household should
Majesty's Household, it was next to impossible to be intrusted to the. personage who had the,
avoid referring to the state of his Majesty's indisposi- guardianship of his Majesty's person, and that
firm, for the purpose of taking a view of what it was the whole should be under her arrangement
now, as compared wait that in which it was on a for- and controul. With respect to the inferior officers,
mer occasion. When they considered the sanguine Ihe conceived that the Groom of the Stole should have
expectations of recovery which were entertained• by their appointment. lie thought that if the expenses
his Majesty's subjects at the commencement of the incurred in the payment of' the Household were sub-
-1 est Session, and the state of indisposition at the pre- mitted to the Officer at' the' lead of the, P.stablish-
sent moment, which appeared from the papers lying ment, it mould he atsentled with great trouble and
on the table, the probability of recovery was very inconvenience •he therefore conceived, that it would
much darkened and distanced. They were presented ibe better to take out the sum at once, and if it Fs,
with a Report from the same, persons who gave the I found to be more than. was necessary, the surplus'
former Report, and who now state, that his Majesty's • should he returned to the Civil List; but, 'if less,
recovery, although improbable, is not to be consider- i that -the subject should be immediately
,trouebt•bes:
ed as altogether hopeless. The difference iu the state I fore the House, and it would be for them to tong-
of circumstances created a difference in the duties to i der whether there .had been any thing improvident
be discharged ; they should now form their own views or extravagant in the expendituteS, before, they Wet
of the future, upon grounds which appeared to themia further supply. Taking into wetferderatien the
the most rational to be acted upon, and they should ; nature of the. King's residence at Windsor, be ,was
provide for a permanent Regency, in such a manner I confident that 100,0001. would be Sufficient to disc
as net to lose sight of the probability of his Majes- charge all bills and disbursements, as well as the sas
ty's restoration to health and power. The state of larks of the,Officers of the Household. The way in
his Majesty's health, as represented in the Report, which he took this sum was, by finding the amount
might be considered as presenting grent improbability of the expenditure at Windsor, in the year, ending
of recovery ; there was still, however, much room in July last. It would be extravagant to suppose,
for hope. The Physician, upon whose data they ; that the same number of equipages and-horses would
could best form an opinion of their own, was Dr. rbe necessary under the present unfortunate circum-
Simmons. In reply to a question, he states, from ; stance, as when his Msjssty was in the full enjoy-
experience attained by attending St. Luke's Hospital, I ment of his health. The amount of expenditure,
that the number of recoveries of persons of his Ma- ;as appeared from the papers on the table, was
jesty's age are small, in comparison with the number I 104,0001. He therefore proposed, that 100,0001.
os recoveries of those that are younger ; he, however, I should be taken out of the Civil List, and that its
afterwards ;lids, that in the case of his Majesty, the expenditure should be checked and audited at the
consideration of the streugth of his constitution, Treasury.. Respecting her Majesty, he said that
classed him among those who were not further'ad-1 it could not be expected that she would con-
vanced in life than sixty years. This circumstance I stantly remain in the fulfilment of those duties
being considered, he .conceived that his Majesty's ! about the King, which she had hitherto discharged
case should not be thought more hopeless than that in so exemplary a manner. In case, therefore, her
where one patient out of five was known to have re+ Majesty might wish to change her residence, he ap-
covered. lie would now state the principal objects 1 prehended that an addition --f 10,0001. per annum
which, in his opinion, the House should have ins iew, I out of the Civil List would be sufficient to meet any
in the arrangements they were about to make. : exigency which might arise. In the Regency Bill,
The primary object thould be, to look to the man-' provision was made for the payment of certain Pen-
ner in which the Royal Authority should be carried sinus bestowed by his Majesty ; he thought it proper
on ; and the second to consider the means by which that such payments should continue to be made from
the personal comforts-of his Majesty. should he sup- the same fund, namely, from the Privy Purse. For
plied. For the first, the proceedings of the last Ses- this account he was convinced that the House would
sion had already provided. After the expiration of feel the necessity of providing an audit: he begged
six weeks from the commencement of this Session, leave to state the method by which he hoped to ob-
the Prinie Regent would come to the full exercise of taro that end. In the first place, he submitted to the
the Royal Authority, and (without a provision was House the necessity of appointing a Secret Commits
made) the management of the Household, and' the tee to inquire into the expenditure of the Privy
distribution-of the Civil List, would also devolves Purse; and he observed, that it was not unreason-
upon him. In the Regency Act it was ordained,
.able to look to this fund for the payment of medical
that Parliament should sit sit weeks before the 13•; ,at,endarice, as it was the same from whence it would
sumption of unrestricted power by the Prince Re-:. be paid if his Majesty had the management of his
gent, and, -in order that the Reuse should have suf. own revenue. Upon this head he begged leave to
ficient time to consider that which he was now about submit the necessity of making some provision for
to submit, viz. a measure for the support of the dig- the great expense incurred by the Medical Gentlemen
nity and comfort of his Majesty in his present un- in their atteudatrce last year. If there was occasion
happy situation. Respecting this, two things were for further assistance than what this fund afforded,
to be taken into consideration ; -first, out o what there were other. funds belonging to his Majesty
fund the provision should be made; and, second, which could be 'so applied. .11e would now state,
She extent and quality of such provision. With re. that all that was necessaty to be taken out• of the
'gard to the first, there could be .no-besitatitin in re- Civil List was 100,0001. which, added to 10,0001.
solving that the Civil List, and those reseusies al- for hei Majesty, together with 60,0001. from the
ready in possession of his Majesty, ought.to be the Consolidated Fund and 10,0001. from the- Duchy of
funds from whence the provision.should bash-awn.— Lancaster's medu a total of 180,0001. which would
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