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'etif he hid do iti ilti6 lienourable tientleman who
ohiectett to his tentillet, would hake stets that he sins
perfectly joitibted lit pireeeting it tie slid not how-
ever think ititrollsary that the east of the Petition.,
shouhl he a rail one id otAlir to jektify a Mensher's
protenting it to the Hons., or hit e'lißreisiug his right
~f petition. The individual wat ititte tame, whatever
he might bite beets when he was pal inflls permit' state
of resAttemeot• and he should certainly pees!' the re-
ception of the Petiticia.
Mr. WYNNE said a few words In Ctphnatiou. and
i'le Petitiod was laid on the table snit Ordered io be
priated. 4
Mr. IiItOIJOHAM tiered, that in roasequence of sesi
applicatiou which had Iselin *add to him on the et*
ogioser
ert, be felt hieseelf stalled spit Pe state, that
to the eons llient's...lk of the Monteith Circuit, wile
which he witseoeMeeted, heshunld not have it in his
}sower to brig wader the consideration of the House
"thettematitelete4lllll gastlitigia hill so early as he had
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!lir S.IIKIPPIORT possatsil a petition front eels.
hahitauts of Lentglkonse. This petition had hoes rt
up in totsespience of a loyal Address from the Presbi-,
tcry of that Owe. having been tent pp Mr the cletistls
aexasisimp44 itself the expression of the Peid f lir Si IS a
the Peellie• Ilia vidlidorrs bed sloes him the lenity to
re.inest him tmilmenat their petition, with an expres-
sion of their thanks, for the maelmente be maintained
in that Heine. The petition wet ethiehetitti iety in-
listfensive langaage, and was signed by 2 persons.—
'they expreated the deepest concern at th 40
e late uujnri-
liable proseetliags against her Majesty, sad expressed
a hope that the Ministers who originated theta. as
well as the //Man Commiseioa, Weald be brought Sea
strict account.
On the Motion that the petition be brought up.
Sir 11FERUUS01.11 said, he was most anxious to
take this opportunity to say a few words with respect I
to the Milan Commission. Feeling highly indignant
on the sithiott of that Contailinion, he had last season
brought forward a "notion foray intioirrint.• it. He
was then told by the Noble Lord opposite, that that
was nut the time for such a motion, but that the pro-
per time would be after the end of the proceedings
then peatliog iu the Lords. When the Noble Lord,
}weever, yes, called open this Session. to bring for-
ward some investigation into the conduct of that Com-
mitsioti, he replied—s, What a 'Dockery it would be
tor u., on this side, to institute any such proceeding."
This being the case with the Noble Lord, be could ;in-
sure him and the House, that after the experience he
hail of the division which had lately token place in
that House, he (Sir it. Ferrisoo) should not try the
experiment. Them divisioes had shewn us plainly
that there were a souther of ladivideall in that House
who blindly followed the Noble Lord whatever course
he might chose to take, and he believed if the Noble
Lcird were to more a vote of thanks to the Milan Coto-
toisiioners, containing the most higlerbown panegyrics
upon them, a large majority of the Flom would sup-
port the motion. It was plain, under 'Alive circum-
stances, that any motion he (Sir R. Ferguson) should
propose ua the subject% would not meet with success,
and that it would be folly is him to attempt it.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH rose to say, with reference
tmagYetkiloo before the liemee, that he romidreei

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a t op, and orderril
Mir It. PERtit!SON presratifil a Phillua fiese
Royal Bitegk of Dysart. in &Miami, :gaol the a•ljaratto
Paean% praying 110 a Parliamentary infinity late the
titritassta sees. eri giotatimg i a tile late pmeeedi gigs eirtast

the QUee4l.—Ordertid to he plinted.
Mr. TIERNEY postponed the width* of an Hoe.
Leakned Friend of his, relative to the ensmezion
Meinber of that lion* with the High Court of
cevy, to the ist of March.
kt /ICES.
The SPEAKER haring called Upon Sir J. MAC
-roan, eiose motion stood next open the (Hers of
Day.
Mr. WTXNE rose, Mal asked if the Hon. and Lammed
Gentleman would consent to permit him to bring '
ward a short motion, which steed hover down upon
list. He promisiril not to &tido the House long.
This proposition was succeeded by cries of
and can span Sir J. Macetwrosa sad Mr. tY
The latter at length giving war,
-,l4oltint z umergteeeeded. He uttered
tleotleman that he did sot rise front •
indhepositiMe on his part to drew every eoarteity
Honourable tbrieleinats. She troth rem, that
unto
_reasons for
_trishing to pos'pone his motion,
'hi We' seMere in favour of duties inferior to that
foie limit to perform, his feeling of the importance
Ore megeeey of 040 matter be was shoot to bring
itiroher the consideration of the House gut the better.
'The delay which had occurred since he gave notice el
his motion, had afforded him an opportunity.. in al
way whirl, he need not mention, of ascertaining what
were the inteatious of all parties with regard to the
question to which be intended to call tile attention
of the House. It was very obvious that he militated m
the proceedings of Austria straiest Naples—eyery
stags of which bore the stamp of the most unprovoked
and unprincipled aggression of an unauthorized power;
Matters !sad now 'assumed an appearance which it was
impossible to foresee at any of its preceding stages.
Since he had given his notice war hail been COW
litellted, and perhaps ere this co:lo44lNi, against that
nation. Ills opinion, however, on the eichjert did sot
depend on the course of events. Though the whole
of the Neapolitan territory sh euhl he again over-rna
Goat the north and east of Europe—thong-1i the
great Potentates of the north should pour forth their
countless toys jails through the Alps to the Faro of
Messina, it would not alter his opinion with respect to
his motion. He ...int-tired whether they triumphed
or not in the attempt, it behoved every Awl 'adieu to
take up the cause of another which it nos attempted
to trample under foot. In proportion as injury and
wrung was threatened to one nation. it behoved We
country to interfere, to prevent it. That Hottae
especially was bound to shew that it took no
share, nor ever countenanced inch dishonourable acts.l
—lf a war had hems conceived, which, regasidless
its success, or failure would in his opinion cause the
torch of civil disseosiou to blase forth ag tip three'''.
out Europe, ha thought it was the duty of this Ham
to see how far hi. Majesty's Mialoterts had discharged
their disc in &isle th 4 utmost to genes eh tlw
:smarmier% nom octetnremio. Whatever Ind gisr./sa 4114 tate of ate Neopaliteste In
hyteries tiironghoitt the itinedin: AO it not to* be contest, it should not deter them from pnrsni •
supposed to represent the sentiment• of one of the that coarse. Untiouhtedly they had but little elm •
most useful sod intelligent set of men, who entirely of success in contendieg against disciplined armies
answered the purposes of the institution, the great and superiority of numbers, anal though the present
bode of the Clergy of the kingdom'. He begged also age hail pre/deiced illustrious examples of the success
to 3tate, that he entirely approved of the cambial of of nations against armies, it was scarcely to be ex•
the Gallant Member (Sir R. Pergeson,) in declining 'meted dist they should escape in this case. Wise-
to bring forward any motion relative to the Milan they the Neapolitans, who lead imitated the Spaniards
Commiselon, after the experience he had hail of the iu their Civil Institutions, would copy their military
conilnet of that House, from the late divisions. On example, it was not for him to determine—u tether
the snhjeet'of those divisions he did net desire to ea- they should take to their fastnesses, whirls lie believed
press any ("Won; he should leave them to be judged was their only chance against superior numbers and
hy flue ronntry and by posterity.—(Cheers from the superior discipline: it diet rust matter to bins, as re-
eipposition)--iTheir conduct jnstilied the observations carded the p-esent motion. He had never hero a
of his Gallant Friend. He would mks- hut one obser- worshipper of fortune, nor a follower of events; he
%Aim' more on the subject of the Milan Commission; had, and always should be, engaged in a struggle
he knew nothing personally of it; all he knew was, against the imam- exertions of power, which tended
that there was a general snspicioo with respect to it, to destroy liberty. His opinion would not be altered,
w!uich was not confined to any party in that lions*, even should the Austrian armies plant their standard
hut pi rvaded the whole of Europe. He was, therefore, on the remotest confines of the territories.
w:uewh.st *smashed that persons holding a most re- His motion Was to obtain information on the subject
siwci.stOe station in society, anal from what he had generally, in order to ascertain bow far Ministers
heard of molt respectable characters, should not wish were implicated. from their leaving been engaged i
to dear themselves from the imputatiuus cast upon the late ileliberatioas. His Majesty's Ministers had,
them. He was astonished thet they dial-snot claim it as the Howie knew. pthlielsesi a dispatch, oreasioned
hole the justice of Parliament; that on ltivestigation by the circular of the Allied Powers assembled at
111004 be appointed into their conduct. whether to 'I roppan. That eirrnlar would save him (Sir J. II.)
vinsiicate them or nut front those coalitions entertained a great deal of srg •nt ; for the principles of the
with res,.ect to them. Ile slid uut wish to wound conduct of 'liver Powers towards Naples was so clearly
the feelings of any individuals ; butt lie was still more and strongly explained, that there could be no doubt
zistonished that his Majesty Ministers who ewer: with respect to them. This Manifesto, got up at
',linty implicated in the object of the inquiry, should 'rroppau, and betrayed by their Minister at
Hatlt-
le backward in instituting it, and allege expense as burgh, exhibited their principles, and %hewed who
the 411uhley- He believed that noticing was so cheap- were deemed their present subjects, and all those
ly purchased as the honour and character of a Govern- *luaus they looked forward to as their future subjects
Client. They had often Maid pretty largely fur the is ether kinoilonte, as well as their vassals, whether
reterse of them, and he thought the House might in shape of Klee.% Eloperr.rs. Landgraves. or those
spare a small sum to remove the stains cut upon the itoowo icy other titles of Sorerelgaty. Three Lords of
present Administration of this &minter thr Milan Ale liftman rare. with Kings for their vassals, and sub-
by
Commission. jects for their slaves, in the grounds they put for.varil
Lord CAIaLEEEMiII thought the observations of .for their cimilitet, urged nothing hut this—that might
the Hsu, and Learned Gentleman onsecessery and up. constitutes right. We, however, contend, the lion.
card for on the ptescnt occasion. if the Hon. sea
.and Lessened tientlemau, still claim some right to he I
fiee--tee, who still meet in free assembly mot
Learned Gentleman acid his Gallant Friend, did not *lsla
lion, mill are the words, King, Lords, and Commons,
provoke discussion, he thought they should have ab-
equally, together with all other
words which sound sia
stained from casting obloquy on his ilajestv's Govern-
ears of in the ea of those Lords of Trapper'. we o
ment
or on say ether peruse. He mold assure the
Honthis at least to them. that they leave nut cocoot-Med the,
. and Learned iitottlemani mod perhaps lee already
priociples which guided the first set of their promo
froth hl
knew it • s intercourse with the initividwals, that The
v have not disguieed those shaineleas osittiolei
it Was int
posstble- for any one to be more auxions than tvhirb e.in only procure fur these the execration of.
they were for an ittriviryietto their conduct. M the inenkil, 1. But „„ r,.r„,o_lBr would appeit
•Tie time, he comp mat see that thi Milan Commission to the Noble Lord opposite, for a justification of the,
mild undergo an investigation iia Host House, any language he used. lie hail only to appeal to his Ma-,
more than any individual against whom in accusation jesty'e Ministers, who hail justly characterised dish
nas preferred which lozil grown oat of doors, was hound measures of the Royal Triumvirate. They bad eisincW
to come to that !louse for Isis putrgatioe.—(Hear.) he this country and to Earope, in its trite colours, C
Mr. BENNETT observed, that the eyiilenee which odious and fiaeitioos conduct of• those three 'canon,'
elates for the Dictatorship of Europe. He appeatetto
hall transpired at the Bar of the oiler House went to
prove that Italian A the Co-teller of tise Nolile Lord opposite (Lorit'lls-
gents of this Government hail en-
tered i tlereach.,
This was what is said to tke
Mtn sitbontation of perjury. This being- the case- I
he thought messed to us for i
it ought not to lee the wish of the Milani vrfriglls—" YAII
have
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Commissionersalone Reg-land peintiplea which are repo.
%eau
.ent to bare their conduct investigated 1,. reels of nkind sehvevsire of the review'
if there were a snarl( of honour b Inte
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not his lisipmv,s or ones y, ,
, anal destructive of the existence of all (
trIS Mee to 111011$‘•
+al deskt&ti.l whi.-b, if faltiVead upon, would •
land it also, instrall of 01l •
egtog the ealtense 0. t . • 6.
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heisonserss
'here wing howevt
exlirielriuti, which p.
wore severe than what
who understood it. Ile
that the first charge an a
• Hurst. as he who ima I
proceedings and legal
. have seen more explicitly
auderstood it, however. it
..„
-oust the Sovereigns of
f calling upon this tio-
irectly repognant from
. the Constitution of
charge no expianatile
rightly inferred the,
Impeachment, it was. that
' as a system of opera.,
a party to, that which
a-ereign to invite into this
consent of Parliament,
to understand as the
Circnlar. If lie was
give him some intli-
, .As the Noble Lord
or 'nark of asemst, at
though he agreed to
pretest offence that could hr
°that tritial instrnmesst,
ights, ._ .• especially prohibited the in-
troductiou of foreign troops, without the conearresee
of Pseliament. He called time particular attentiou of
the Mouse to this part of the impeachment at
Pricy Metternich sod Priuce Hardettherg, PO ably cou-
mlncted, by the Noble Lord opposite. Prince :Heiler-
pieta, it sew med, had proposal, as a system of co-opera-
doss that die British J. onarch should use ire into this
comity,- an army of one hundred thou-and itussiaas-ur
Austrians, with or .rithout the consent of Parliament
—.that there should he established, in order to render
the deliberations of that Mousy more regular, a host
of Ceosecita or Croats in Hyde-park Orrin Iliackheath. I
That was the crime which the Noble Lord imputed to ,
hits Noble Colleagues. lie should be ashamed of his ,
rouatrymitenif lie did not think that all parties felt 1
Bait Wood boil with indignation at time thought of i
single foreign bayonet being called in to settle their dis-
pates.Time most serious part,howeyer,on which that house
requited elsicimlatiou yet remained. 1.01 oi;.:, a tiovern-
SOVIIIICtuta us that they had no 'loch; mve !dr.sssitl a•ssetst
to this policy, whirls w 0,51.1 render E:slrlanol the most
aniseraW•eolony of the I)espots of Europe! This,
that, tamer six year. of peace, after repeated Converge+.
was dog aeswegeniest dos fruis—the produce of universal
welosi We were told not only that it was expected
d assent to their detestable polis y, but iliAi the
witthis country would sanction the boding of one
thousand Cossacks, or Croats. at Dover, with-
old the comment of lin Parliament. He hal heard, that
when litenthanen of a oertain description fell out, others
of as-opposite mane:. heuelitted hy p. !tithe glorious
high*, of Jostathas Wihl, that hero was mask to tle-i
plant the fate of oat of his aucestors in the timat
of Charley the Second, who, as the hero stated it, le .
t eau ' he held out against the liovernment, soil le as
bra r holder than any of the rest bf those who did
tive nip ofamm haoltarously condemned to death, in: cold
bl - mew of the opposite factio If .—( A
tan seepod...lo..liate crept into '.iie ea-
Monts, - Alliance. The Noble Le rd was
c - th havloi, eittnq nay hie viiewer ott hie lim-
ping.% a ributed to the notion that he woe ill fall in
with Hor harharons politics of Prince 3letter nigh, l lar-
detibett,r, ant others of the confederacy. So that he was
charged up to the 19th of January with lie in dissem-
bled, with having kept the rest of the. '.and in igno.
ranee, or rather with having made timers believe they
would admit a foreign ;irony into Slid. Beset, and be-
collie a party to the enslavery of Euro' e—(tbeer. t
the f)ppositton—retaned from the 'r. ra'm's Ilenrhes.)'
He was happy to are the Noble Lorol an much at ease ;
he Last the peceliar art of appeal-41y nnaffeetrii when
that was going on which could net fail to affect 144
--The Noble Lord, perhaps, tivoight it was his (Sir
J. Mackintosh's) language, wira it was the language'
oPhis own eulleayue4 at Vientit. Ile could not, how-
ever, complain sillier of Pail/ ' Metteriiicit, or Prince.,
Hardenherg, for asserting !his of hint. Fur here
they had the Noble Lord--411teotos coo lleatem rewire
—.they bad the culprit speaking eloquently in aggra-
vation of punishment. Tiol had the Noble. Lord's
oirti testimony to time truth of what he (Sir J. Meek-
inseam) stated of tile chars e against time Noble Lord,
li the Noble Lord's owe k.upeachment against his col-
leagues. He did not say that these persons were juts-
Mid in their charge ; lot the Noble Lord denied the
Police of it, But he as).ed him whether he dill say i.,
oar whether lie did not, ot/ whether there teas not esionm;im
tokastify inquiry. lie ;could not escape the ditensma,
Whey that time Noble Lord and his colleagues had
gives rise to the Papirion charged noon them, or time
,Niles had uttere.i the foulest and most unmerited ca-i
loonies. The Allies, had stated that they expected
Hoglund would authorise sad sanction the course they
were about to pursup. They thus felt it to he implied
that she had given them reason to suppose her autho-
rity wituid support themn in their present views. The
only way to ascertain whether time English tiovera-
mat had committed the greatest of all crimes, or
whether the Allies had seat forth the greatest of all
eatittanies, was to grant the payers eaHed for by the
omens motion. .:,. Prince iletternieh and Count
Hardeolserg wire absent, ;t was but just that he should
suppose that which they might urge in defence of
what they had ally:weed. 'the Allied Powers saw that
the eithrse tahrn by England to support Naples, lam
usnestaisstanam was similar to C.eir own ; they lead a
slobs to suppose that her intentions were the same.—
lilt:shad hall :erased to receive the Alinister sent from
itth sew Government. Prinee Cimitelli ; he could wish
e know wheat Austria or Russia had done more.-
41rOni this it was fair to suppose that England was
loafing to attack Naples, though (nolo tertain consi-
devotions tablets hod hoes stated with wore heinillat-
lig eisesuestoooleestaissee titan lie could sae there, she
was Ito rtaletoul by dm glorious peace cowhide'', and
Itedvantaappeue obliseems wile, that oho dared nut coin-
' mit Leerosif to a rosioase that might bring her to the
beiskotwar. Sloe had manifested a hostile dispomfi-
tiots, but her consittet as that of OR elleia,te
. " Willitag to leeool. bet yet a; raid to strike." .
ire were Out pipe,* w sire that vulgar assistance
%Ail " ;menthe - ' from c• -

to k Tridownrirate.— It was tialp.nisstate
tl ea greater,entouring of he
at the CO in diet Jo nipagr. The
js*ns I sayatertoss atyle of et
Ito the holmillfliteirrtlatswitsebing still tiac
rano larlaa abure stats 4; to *twig wh
sr
rolaarre, fur Instance, that
v. a
not inlay clear—such, at lb
wl
n of a I=beelks4allitabas, sub:nadir criminal
Wiabtola pt
iare
Chan-I As Lac as he unilen
la be a charge again
Prussia, cad Austria, of
to adopt measures dm
of the ties mental principles of
this ts. 1.4 this ch
Parsed hail u. If be ri
ag for- atf tist.e articles of inapt
on the thoolAititrutwipar lead proposed
tilsg.thluoar4try to become 1
oi W tier Uniish Sorere
rrwan. with or without the co
"coops. This Its was I
of tli e Noble Lord's
reads, late hi. Loxil would
a any It before he proceeded.
to elm ire w giving any situ
Nola IMF.: ha toast argae. as
In; bat k. his then, was the gamest
hat be cosansitted, in contravention of t
mtance the Bill of rights, which eepecii

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se .U 144 frioOdly !ultimo regairetl from each other to
r the easdarvi assist thou •is mart;. bat We pritee4l ourselves
%Ain fr.,„:tbei rt,6l/ to give mlts!..enre#Neat;..ly .;}lied of late Aar,
ialloalif 'W 'Wel all or Writ! .7battsrltrellie wuall take the
Pr mleltr.y Wlitirty to citO I citste,vot t., Ila .coatendell,
rersire ffimstAbo c... .kaorsehitilac4 aftte Lettia
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