The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-02-23 00:00:00

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meet was adopted, he wu couvhseed the meet beneficial
resolts wonld flow from it.
Mr. CROKER explainer,.
The flonse then divided—For going into the Corn
mittee, 144 —For Mr. Humes Amendment, 54—Majo.
rite. 90.
On our wow, into the gallery, Mr. CALCRAFT
was addressing the House. We understood him to liter.
put a question to Ministers whether it was intended to
make any provision for insane olfirers ?
The CHANCELLOR of he EXCHEQUER could
not glee any specific attar the question.
Mr. HUME rose for e. Pnrpose of submitting an-
other motion to the hen... 'The Hon. Member contend-
ed that the Hon. Gentleireis opposite bad attempted to
mower much of what Ist Inn said, and that he had mis-
stated Wit "'bleb be dill -pay. Besides which, he had
entirely paned by the eisiiil point of his speech. What
he it'll" "Pon was, 11;14119 we paid only 15.000,0001
for the.vervice. which Ow required 17,000,0001. This
point remained wholleMlManlitered. It was, as his Hon.
and learned Friend la.
mated, in consequence of that
Mind confidence in M. tors which the majority of the
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house was in the prae of granting that the na,ion
had gone on year aft's' gear Pinging deeper into debt.
It was, therefore, that ha thought it was time they y111)111.1
call for a change, aaL,• for a new and a better mode of
trannetlng the businme of the nation. Let them have
OmA/tails°, what thtrwere called upon to vote of the
.public wooer, 1,1.1.'4 provided that they would not by
that meat's& furniAllpg political details to an enemy
fin invent, of all Hie metaphor, and high h.onbastmc
style of the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Crokar), who
nadertook to show hew ignorant be (Mr. flume) was.
he bad himself mist ken what he had said. Ile (Mr.
iii:
H.) haul said. that n hole expenditure of the Navy.
wear and tear, was se Wen millions; and this snot :he
Hon. Gentleman undietook to reduce to fire millions.
Why, in one line of the items, ship-building alone, hr
would find a total 0fh‘530.0001. As to the break-water
at Plymouth, the 1.,. Gentleman did not know what
was expended in that work. In the Estimates it Was
MOM/. and the lion Gentleman stated it at a million
Br the Estimates the total was 17.702.0001. a 'wryer it
might lie in the mind of the Ilan. Meamber. tic (Mr.
Home) bad moved for Returns of the Supplies. ia ord. r
to avoid fiat contradiction, which hail hero been time tii*e
when he had it not on paper to support his assertions.
According to the 'lemon made to his motions it appeared
that in 1792, the nunaher of morn for time sea service was
sixteen thousand. slid the simply, including Onlimeee,
amounted to 1.9:45.492f. This was troe, or It was not;.
but if there was anYincorrectne•ss in ivli..l he rolvaoce4
upon it, it was not Wise cli.mrged upon hi.mm, lint upon the
returns he had reericeml. It was two motto fir the Hon.
Member to say that the estimates of 17.12 had nothing
to do with his (A4r. flume's) motion. lie called for de•,
tails of the enorinons sums they were called epos to
rote, and the Hoews would not do their ditty it they pee.
init,ed that explanation to be refuse,t. The Hue. tient.
had admitted the principle of the sinecure list to be had.
—(Nts, no, from Mr. Croker.)—Very ire4l. thets.l6(l)r.
Hume) fed that it was bad. That honor was newt
eiggarolly in rewarding meritorious officers; and the
grantingof pensions might hr safely left in their !I sotto.
After a few more elbservations as to the propriety of their
latrine the eatinrahm before they granted the supply, the
Hon. Member mwmvif as an amendment to the motion far
"'flint into the Committee, that the followii: words he
substitetell. for tloi WI'QUIR ".that the Spenhet do now
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the Acconn's furnished by the Government. Thu 14 a••.
Member (Mr. Lroker) was, in fact, wrong, for heed o'l
:he sum for Old Stores to the 5,900,0001. when that own
ought to he deducted from such ■ccount.—(Flear.)
Mr. CROKER would give the items for 1817. The
Or :litany Estimates were 2,478,150/. from which wall to
be deducted for Ohl 'Stores, 671,0001.; the Extratirdi le -
ries were 1,071,000/.; Ilse Transport Service, 261,0901.;
far Wear and Tear. I,6l'Jf.—Total, 6,492,01.101.
31 . E rrle.ted that he had only quoted the ar-
c outs wh • b ippeared on the table of the !dense.
S rangers were about to withdraw for ta division, whel
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY rose to obsertl.•
that the increase which had taken place in the marines.
a few years ago, had enabled the Ministers to make tb •
extensive redactions in the Army that had recenti:
Wren place. The marines were enabled also to perform
ditty at garrisons, arsenals, and such erringein.qi,
enah'e I the Government to make considerable reductions
in the Army.
Sir LCOFFIN briefly bore testimony to the gre:.t
utility of the marine forces; whine on service, he laud
fremtently been an eye-witness of their value.
The gl;llery was geared for a division—the numbers
of it wore—
For the amendment, 53; Against it, 157; Majority
against it, 101.
The next vote moved was 533,579./., wages for 21,0 M
semen and mantles. Iminesiiately on the tioestion bein‘
pot, the gallery was cle ired for a di1.1•1,11, but it did nut
take pia.•.•, and on one re-admission it. found—
Mr. HUME on his legs, complaining of the enufsterill
manner in which the public :origin's were hem, and
ceesuring 'hat part of the woe tinder discussion which
referred to the Caast Blockade system.
The CHANCELIABinfthe EXCIIEiI 7ge
that too years ago the animal vote ha I been re.lnceti by
tto,ttolll., in consequence of the reduction of 15,t lanes,
and that the►e wes thus far a saving to the revenue.
Mr. 11011HOUSK could not foriwar expressing his
surprise at the course punned by lie M.ij•aty's
tern.—They promised every thing hut granted nothin.:„
and treated with taunts and sneers those 41erttfetnen on
his side of the house who were residerd to discharge
their ditty ie defiance of every obstacle. Seeing that it
*Ws ioloissible to go any farther without haying the ne-
cessary estimates laid mom the tahlo, he should now
move as an autend nest that the Chaihoun de now report
pro;4ress, and ask leave to sit 11(11111.
L.ar•l ALTHORPE nh;.•cted to the merits of the ori-
ginal motion, hnt in so hi w a tone of voice as not to be
an lib e in the riflery.
Sir'lll. ( II lIU N observed, that from motives-of
policy it wisald not he prissiest to publish all the details.
lest an tunny might at any time take a tvantage of Ibtlu
to rowertdri the disposition of one navy.
Mr. BROliti/1.131, in the course of some oheerr .
lions, saiyl, lie wished to k how much per man lad
Keen gr fitted before the fall had taken place in the price
of prossisione, now I9s. per man was called fur
since the tea netion ?
Sir tl. COCKBURN replied, that th• probable esti.
mate fair the tart twaryeais might have be •u 2i. Is. pet
man monthly.

:11r. %V. S daft 4:11,I that till reason givers for not.
laying the 'Wails of the exnrudirnr. h.f.rc the hoico,
no Plein• satisfactory. At present or had no.
itt a;;.rehriml any thing from. and therefore.
nothing, was to be teirerf from laying. hef.ire the house
an ateortnt'rof Cie disposition of the navy.
Mr. ItItItNAL apokr-briAtly In the Satire eft.-ct,
sery:ng !hat the high dest;niesraf the I,:eioti .7•011$1 not be
endan.:eved• isv put. j bine qie ..et di% in .i•restion.
Illeather thee objected to the prig.aple of res:ing
in the Cesmoissioneni of the licrenie the payorsint oldie
mai loved io rite Coast Iliockad.. service.
"-• t*IANCHLIAIit of tint ii.xcli.E.QuEn, said
-1041iatation.of threhurlisire. .
TIT I.ipfittr.l the amendment, assientl'
ing as his Cream for doing so, the propriety of not egrets.
ing to 4 single gratis, till it should be clearly shown it
emit,' he pint, comiiileting the peculiar distress that pr .-
..silo! all over thi country. To vote with this point
being first ascertained,. email .be only to proceed at. •
random.
After some farther conversation, in which
Brosgliain, Mr. Crober. Mr. flume, Lord Loodonderty, '
and Mr. 11. Sumner took part. The Committee divided •
ea the amendment, when the numbers were—Ayes, 47.
Noes, Itl7.—Majority in favour of Nlioisters,
The original motion was then carried without a dist-
%ion, after a few words trim Sir It. Wilson, Mr. •
Brougham, and the !'larynges of Londonderry.
Mr. IiOCLIWItS brought in a 11111 to regulate the
importation of .lt•tos, Ammunition, &c. into Ireland r•
ahica watrea•l the first trine, and ordered to be read
the second .tare on Tu aday.
Mr. it/CLAW itN brought in a Bill to i mien; lay
pre-oas who base seized or retained arms stn. e the Ist ••••
of November last, in Ireland, for the pc-servation of the'
pub peace--/trad thefirst tone, and ordered to be
real the second time on 'Listen'.
TIIP I hwse then adjourned at half-iiast twelve, till' .
Monday.

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lAIXDO.V 11.411KETS„ Fss. 22.

COTTON.—The purchases of Cotton onnee our It.t. ,
Are OM ewilileg! '0 the Kest India deereiptionet the pal
:iculsrs are-1,100 !lenge!, to bond ;
Snrst,ll:.l o 61.1. The arrivals, Irmo the 15 to tut. 21st
inst. Sni.rrns, all,

Seti:cll.—:The demand for Sugar revived consider.
:41,1y On Tiles!lay last, and the prices uai l were ID.
per cwt. ti.:•li•r. Since then the rerfrat has continued,
Ansi,. as the market is still very innitferewly
with illoiwora.ks, tit- holders are tirtlk, a d hay.
taineil priers a shade higher s the advance this week
mite be stated gelerally Is. a Y.. per ewt. KetinsAll
tinmis are little varied ; 14e low tieseriptiont ore .ti
s!sree, And in awl welting; they.
realise much higher prices in preportion than the 'finer
tinalition4.—itlidas,.s were in brisk demand at t4a. anal
few sellers. S tars at the leulia House sold rather,
lower with the eNeeptinn of the'inferior browns, which
twist he stated ls. it 8. bitrher:

corFeE.—Ti.err have iwen ,consider.able pablig•
sales brought fora sel tills orwmary descrip-
tions ofJanniel have .old a sh'ade .oe.er, .o.'her .1...
lilies fully support the previous prices, hot Ina pubfiet
sales here not gone off with the fortn.r hriskorss. The
public sale this foreuson consisted of .141)
Coffee,' which .rold rather heavily, hot the previous
prices were maintained, good ordinary 10/s. ti.l. to WA,.
fine ordinary 110.. to 1 12s.
PIMENTO.—PimentO continues in great resneit, for
very fine lfild. and Mid. realized at public sale.
III:31. BRANDY, and 1.101.1 ~ANDS.—There was

at briskness in Rums early in the week, in the anti-
cipation of the intercourse between the West Indies and
the United States being re-opened: the proceedings in
the !louse of Commons last night proves the expectation •
'at leas• premature; in consequence there is to-dap a
damp thrown upon .the market, the quotations t.lllqul,
however, be enlaced, though purchases could be inane
on lower Wm.—Brandies :al I Geneva are without al-
teration.
TALLOW.—The Tallow market remains in the late
unsettled 'state; for Yellow C tutile :dis. and 511. paid
early in the week : but t!,e prices have since improved att.
holders and great speculators continue their pu►enake<,
,ml for a parcel 58s. has been this forenoon refea•••• by
them ; the last price paid vras however. enly
[own 'fallo•v is to-day quoted Ss!. tiste, %shish is d Liewer
taati last el eta.