The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-02-23 00:00:00

I propose that the son of 10,0001. a year, comiue au
der that head, should he defrayed out of the Privy
Pers., end not from she Public Parse. Hat the in.
tention of the Right Hob. Gentleman to look upon
and treat the Privy Parse ss • public feed,was egos!-
aly indefensible. Unless the Right Hoe. Gentleasis
altered the terms of his notice, the only difference be-
tween them us. to the fend from which that ennui
allowance should to drawn—thet the Right Honour.
able Gentleman would throw on the Privy Pares
whet he would throw oh the Civil Litt. If he
was right in that opinion, he felt proud t• have the
support of so intelligent a Member as to the pro.
prissy of the grant generally. An adherents I.
principle only compelled him to follow the line ho
was pursuing ; for, if any fend mold be found from
which the proposed grant toold be made, without
making a demand on the Public, there never was a
mere intritiog occasion, never a greater temptation
for a Minister to lay his hinds on that fond than at
present ; bet, he should add, that there never was a
greater infrsctian of every principle of law and jos-
tice than to touch, fir public purposes, the Privy
Parse—that feud which *sight to he considered the
private property of his Meje.iy, as mach as the pro-
perty of say individual in privet• life. In the shape
in which the fend then @listed by law, it cook! mot
be broken in upon without am open violation of see
right of private property. Whatever charges edit t
justly be made on the Privy Porte, in the t•ir-
sent ',automate siteation of his Majesty, alight
with coal justice he made on the estate of any pri-
vate individual labouring seder a similar malady—its
the latter case it was for the Comet of Chancery to
decide, whether the demand was equitable; in the
present case, the question was to be determined by
the equity end justice of Parliament. lie should
eves go farther end say, that the Privy Parse was
sot subject to all the charges on the property of an
individual ender the guardianship of the Chancellor.
—The Noble Lord then argued at some length, that
the sum of 60,0001. a year, and the proceeds of the
Duchy of Lancaster, were, by the Acts I l and
sod 39 and 40 of Geo. 111. completely pet oatof
the diaposition and control.' of Parlismeot ; and that
his Majesty had acquired • Parlkoseniary title
and vested interest is them.--Parliament, be
continued, had on easy omelet's treated them
as the private property of the Crown. The letter
las well as the spirit of them Acts proved that the
feed, alluded to were not to be subjected to say
charge of • public uteri,. It •oeid be revolting
to the feelings of the House to compare the King
to any prince individual ender the protection of
the Court of Chancery. It must be recollected
that he was the Seiremige, the bead of the State,
with 'gripes privileges and attributes, to cattle him
to the vseeration, and esseutislly distinguish him
from the condition of every other individual in the
State. He could confidently rely on the Report
of the Committee In support him in this view of the
question. large duties used to be granted to the So.
vereign at the COIRSIPIICIIIMPaI of former reigns,iwhieb,
if continued till the prosiest day, would amount to
two milliner, but which his Majesty had given op in
exchange for the Civil List. Agreeably to the pre-
cedent of 1814, Public Officers should not for their
solaria be thrown on the Privy NMI; but the cat-
too persona was io various most important points of
view pr .eminently • Public Officer. Would it be
consirtent ebb the wisdom and jimmies of Parliament
to call into question the rights of priv.ite property ?
Would that Hoene( Parliament, about to commence
their career, at ooze commit ao act that would for
ever leaves stain 0/3 their character and memory ?
The Noble Lord concluded with a siren appeel to
the Hesse to bold sacred, in the decline of his Ma.
jetty, those rights they bad repeatedly recognized in
the zenith of his powers and to beware of laying
heavy bends on the small mown of Sovereign's
property, wham they had (even in the periods
of greatest depression sod despondency) been tempt.
ed to take a shilling, though by way of initiate,
from the foods of foreigners vested Is this ceeetry.—.
[Neck clieerieti.)—The Mat R08°181506 was them
about to be propeord--hot
Lord CASTLEREAGH rote and said, there was
one topic to which be bad intended to anode, bet
which bad escaped his memory. His Majesty's Mi.
nisters should do the greatest Injeetice to his Royal
Highness the Duke of York, did they not tippets@ the
House that his Royal Highness felt the greatest re-
luctance to have his name connected with a mosey
question ; and to odd, that if he had coaselted'hie
own feelings as en individual, without any Totemicu
to the rights of the high office he was intended to
fill, he would immediately, on the first notice of sny
digitises of opinion in the House, have renounced
the proposed addition to his income—that whine
bet a sense of the importance of the gustiest would
have compelled him to leave it to the consideratio• of
the Ileum—lle weevers he should not transgeou the
bounds of that delicacy which was dee to the Renee
in stating further his Royal Highness's detonates.
lion that nothing could induce him to accept the ie.
leaded allowance out of the private fends of his re•
vered permit. He should be too happy to emote
the duties of the office without any emolument, if
Parliament should so direct. In arguing the Steels of
grantiag or delaying a salary, he wee sleet minium
that his name should be kept altogether out of the
question—but he could sever reconcile It to his feel.
ism to take the addition of income directly or in.
directly out of the Privy Pease.—[Hour!]
The question bawls( thee bees pet ise the Ent Re.
solution--

fdr.TIERNEY said, that in order to occupy as
little time as possible, he shield make the same di-
vision of the subject as the Noble Lord had done.
lie cooirmed the change is his opinion stated by
Loud Castlereagh, respecting the sem of 60,0001. for
the elpeoces of his Majesty's Household. He be.
Hewed that by looking Narrowly ioto figures three
or fear thousand a year more might have bees pared
down, bet he did net think the country would theak
him for each • mein. ll* regretted that the goes-
lion of the provision for her Majesty's outsets had
been referred to Parliament at all, sad said ha had
pained • most painful time in iavestigedeg the elaime
and endeavouring to ascertain the profess reprose-
peace dee to many Ladies of rank, hat of
wMred
y men.
circumstances. The Noble Lord bad •
givess.inftssedot FD:ra:al leLowaibrjralisrqr 11:,1 densardliihs.,l scan. dreirellobi And