The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-06-30 00:00:00

THE STATES! UN.

The question was then loudly eallrd for ou the
Ministerial side, and the House divided,—
Fur slw satins 71
Against it - - 66
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of the notice and protection of that house ; and he i Majority . 6
was fully persuaded, that if this subject had been . It was then proposed that a Bill shoild be brought
brought forward in a fuller attendance, the vote in pursuant to the said Resolutiou, on which the
would not have been carried. He was astonished, house again divided,—
indeed, after what had passed on the former dia. i Against it For the motioo
cussion, that the Duke of Cumberland could re-1
concilielt to his feelings to accept of the grant.-1 Majority - 13
[Bear, hear!]-The majority in favour of that NATIONAL MONUMENT TOR THE LATE VICTORY.
measure haditee; so small, that it must be evident , Lord CASTLEREAGH rose to make the motion
to his Royal Highness, and to_the •world, that the of which he had gives, notice. He said, it had fallen
SPUN! of the House was against him.—[Meer, hear, to his lot lately to bring forward motions in honour
lover! loud cries of question, from the Ministerial of the various gallant actions of particular officers
side.] i who had peculiarly distinguished themselves in our
Mr. FORBES had lived long enough, not only to army ; but on the present occasion, he had to call
doubt half his heard, but even what be saw.— : the attention of the House to a victory, the splendid
[Laugh.]-11e doubted, therefore, the truth of the effects of which were every hoer growing so much
public rumours respecting the conduct of the Duke !more apparent and so additionally important, that
of Cumberland. A man who had got a good name Ihe could have no doubt but the motion he had to
might be guilty of had actions, and those who were i submit to the House would meet with its univenal
not much beloved might be very unjustly accused.— i approbation. The intention of his Majesty's Go.
He would merely ask, was the Duke of Cumberland : 'torment had been to wait till such time as they had
- the eon of the King ?—[A laugh.]—He presumed received the returns of all those brave and gallant
that that fact could not be denied.—[4l laugh.]—His officers who had fallen in the cause of their country,
next question was, did his Royal Highness contract and in fighting its enemy during the late glorious
Ore marriage with the approbation of the Crown ? victory; but such had been the active progress of
Ile House bad no right to Speedos that fact, since the army since that memorable day, the 18th, that
the Prince Regent had expressly declared, in his the Duke of Wellington had not beets able to send
s- 'Message, that be had duly given Ms consent. Under them as yet. It had therefore been determined not
these circumstances, therefore, he would merely his• to wait any longer, but proceed to notice the gal.
quire, whether the terenkien that had been made for !entry and patriotism of those who were actually
a bachelor was soffirient fir a married man? If the known to have lost their lives in that glorious battle
House should *y, that no addition was necessary, which had rendered such magnificent and essential
then they must say, that tee Duke of Cumberland had service to their country, and which could not fail to
serenest too much as a single mate He trusted that transmit their names to posterity with Use brightest
the moderate increase proposed to be granted would honour and with unanswerable claims to the grad-
receive the approbation of the House, and that nn tude, not only of all Englishmen now living, bat of
. snore insinuations would be throws out against those those also who should come after them. It would
who brought forstard the measure.—[Cries of (2ree. be needless for him to repeat what had been so well
dun. question! from the Ministerial side.) understood, and had, ever since the event was
. - Mr. TIERNEY would merely ask the Noble known, been dwelt upon by all ranks in the country
Lord, whether her Majesty was not decidedly hostile with so much joy and exultation. Great actions
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to the marriage, and whether she had not declared might, and often did produce great results in the
that she Would not receive the parties at Court i field ; but he believed that no one man on earth
• Lord CASTLEREAGH would abstain from an- could possibly have expected such extraordinary re.
swering any qeestions that were put to him for the sults to have proceeded from a battle begun and
purpose of vilifying the Royal Fetidly. ended in one day, as had been produced by the
splendid and memorable victory obtained by the
Mr. TIERNEY desired the House to mark the Duke of Wellington and his incomparable army, on
extraordinary reply which the public Minister of the the 18th of this month ; results which we did not
• Crown hod given, Oro the Commons were called conceive could be so great, till we saw them prci-
upou,te vole an addition of 60001. a year to the claimed and confirmed by the enemy himself.—'
public burtherts.—[Hear. hear!]--The Noble Lord [Hear, hear!]--This splendid achievement had ,
would not venture to declare, that the Mares of brought France to that State of weakness, from
Cemberiand would be received et Court ; but he which it was not possible she could extricate herself;
(Mr. T.) had heard, that it was the firm determine- it had shown that restless and ambitious people, who
tion of her Majesty never to receive her at Court.— had been the cause of the various accumulated mise.
The reason was said io be, because an alliance had ties of Europe for the last fire.and.twenty years,
peen broken off between her Rat al Ilighnessend the that their mischievous and wicked career was at an
Duke of Cambridge; and on that account her Ma. end, and that France had no time to lose in repair-
jesty had declared, that the person who was unit tn ing the bijurics she had so long and so cruelly per-
be the wife of one son was not fit to be the wife of ' sisted in inflicting on the nations around her. In
unother.—[hear, kearl—He was asking a gees- short, take it its a moral, in a political, or in a mi.
tints, not, as the Noble Lord had stated, to vilify litary point of view, it so far transcended every thing
the Royal Family, but to prevent the character of of the kind which had preceded it, that big Majesty'a
the House of Commous from being brought into die- Government thought They should be justified in tra.
repute. Every man within these walls who heard welling out of the usual way ; and it was proposed,
him, and every person in the country, who should that, in the motion with which he should concludt,
become acquainted through the ordinary sources of the monument intended to be raised should be to the
• intelligence of what was passing that night, would Officers and Soldiers.—[llear, hear! front all parts
•arimit that the House of Commons were degraded in of the Hots:el—Gallant and brilliant as the conduct
. being the mere banker's-4 the 0100.-1/fear, hear!l of all the officers, both those who fell in that filo. ,
—lle would ask the public Ministers, whether they rious engagement, and those who survived, it was a
would dare to vote an approbation of this marriage? proud thought for Englishmen to indulge in the
—[Hear, hear!]—He knew that they would not pleasing recollection that every soldier in the ranks
venture to propose such a measure; and therefore throughout our whole army had behaved during the ;
he said, that in voting a slim upon a marriage so con. whole of the action with the most undaunted courage, '
trotted, the House would degrade themselves by be- and with unexampled coolness, patience, and per.
coming nothing more nor less than the mere bankers severance. Such extraordinary and exemplary courage
of the Court.—[Hear, hear f] —He had no hesits. and conduct as our soldiers had displayed on this
tints in declaring, that it was one of the most unfor. occasion, he was sure the House would think with
tunate marriages that could have been contracted.— him ought to he particularly noticed—[Hear, hear!
The subject, indeed, was one of extreme delicacy, from all parts]--and he was equally sure that those
end no one could speak of it without considerable gallant officers who survived that well. ought day
• pain ; but he was determined to discharge his duty would feel the warmest satisfaction and happiness
faithfully as a Representative of the People. If this , when they saw that the House had found out an ap.
marriage was entered into by the advice of his Ma- 1 propriate mode of including the soldiers in the corn.
jesty's Ministers, they had much to answer for to thel memoration of an achievement so truly glorious in it.
country.—[Dear, Bear!]—An Hon. Member (Mr. I self, and so highly advantageous to the best interests, '
Forbes) had said, that he was not disposed to believe ,' not only of this cuuntry,but of all Europe.—[Checrs.]
more than one half of what he heard ; but if the With respect to the officers, whose names would so!
House only believed one half on this occasion, It was nobly grace the monument to be raised is comusemo-
unnecessary to make out an entire case. If only one ration of their future fame, and of the glory of the ,
half was true of what had been reported, either of ' British arms, it was a painful task to him to mention
the Lady or of the Gentleman, the character of 1 that eminently brave and gallant General, Sir Thos.
• either would not be very enviable.--[Hear', ', Pictonr who had so often received the Thanks of that
hear, hear!]—Ministers, We. deed, might hope .
i House, and the universl eulogiums of an admiring
carry the measure through by the aid of half a dons i and a grateful station. On this truly memorable day
vote, behind them, but the country would not be, be had finished a career of glory equalled by few,
prevented from forming their opinions on the subject. and surpassed by none. That House and the country
—[hcar, hear !]— lie perfectly agreed with the would never forget the brilliant display of courage
lion. Member who had expressed his astonishment, : and conduct which had constantly attended him in
that the Duke of Cumberland himself could reconcile the Peninsula, but particularly in the storming and
it to his whirl to accept of the vote. He should capture of Badajos, and afterwards in the battles of
think, that if his Royal Highness felt any sort of , Vittoria, the Pyrenees, Orthos, and Thoulouse, in
pride or feeling, he would not accept of it--[llear, all which his services were of the most splendid na-
hear .9—The Marriage Act was made to prevent im. lure; and it must be the most consolatory reflection
proper connections, and then the question came, tv, his surviving friends and near relations that he
ss Nether her Majesty had not disapproved of this al. closed a life of pre-eminent heroism, fighting at. the
fiance ? He asked the Noble Lord whether he did ,
lint know this fact ? He asked him, whether there, sine,
bead of that phalanx on whose constancy, persever-
was not something that prevailed its her Majesty's and bravery, the fate of the British Army
very greatly depended. It was not in his power to
nand to prevent the marriage taking place?
questions might not be answered, but he declared,
Thee° do justice to such estraordinary military merits, but
that upon every stage of the Bill he wool.! take the he felt it his duty to pay this small portion of tai.
bate to the memory of a gallant officer, whose loss
settee of the House, in order that they might show to the country no man could more sincerely lament
they had proper feelings for the Royal Family as than he did.—The other gallant officer it was his me-
well as for themselves.—[hear, hear !] 1 lancholy duty to mention as having fallen in theism.
Lord NUGENT could not consent to give a silent cause and ou the same day, and whose name would
vote on this subject. The uncontradicted reports in also grate the monument alluded to, was Sir W. Poe.
circulation weighed strongly on his mind, and he sonby. This brave and meritorious officer bad not
would oppose the Bill in every stage.—[hear!] been so long in the army as the gallant General of
. Mr. BENNETT merely rose to ask, whether an svhOm he had jest spoken • bat from from his earliest
lion. Member (Mr. Forbes) had meant to apply to entrance into it, he had evinced that he would become
him that remark which he had made respecting the one of its brightest ornaments. He had, when a
impropriety ofstttacking the conduct of the Duke of very young officer, by his extraordinary attention to
Cumberland,and whether he intended to say, that by Ithe duties of his arduous profession, gad by his tan-
go doing, hr had brought disgrace upon himself : i common skill and activity, drawn on himself the at-
• Mr. FORBES submitted to the House whether be tention and Approbation of that reoowued veteran
had used any improper or ustparliameniary language. Sir Ralph Abercrombie, who patronized him as long
He could assure the lion. Member, that he did nut as he lived. He had particularly distinguished him-
ni an 'so oiler sissy personal offence to him. I self from Ike cutpmencsoteet of the war la the Pe.
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ninsula,. and in an especial manner in the battle of
Salamanca, and every other splendid victory that tol-
-1 lowed bore testimony to his daily increasing merits.
Had he lived, there could have been no doubt of his '
arriving to the highest honours of his profession.—
That, .however, had not been permitted to him • but
his friends would have the consolation to reflect,
-that he fell in the field of honour, surroanded with
glory, and lay embosorned in the most affectionate
feelings of that House, and in the lively remem.
brrnce of an admiring and grateful country. He
concluded by moving, " That an humble Address be
presented to his Royal Highness the Paince Regent,
praying that he would be graciously pleased to give
directions for a national Monument to be erected in
honour of the splendid victory of Waterloo, and to
commemorate the memory and honour of the gallant
officers and soldiers who fell on that glorious day ;
and more particularly Lieut.-General Sir T. Picton,
and Major-General Sir W. Ponsonby, and that this
House would make good the same."
Mr. C. WYNNE expressed his hearty concur.
pace with the motion, and hoped that the name of
every man who fell on that occasion might be en-
graved on the monument. He wished also that dis-
tinct monuments should be erected to the memory of
Sir Thos. Picton and Sir Wm. Ponsonby ; especially
as the former had expressed in almost the lest words
he had spoken before he embarked, to two Members,
of that House, that such a tribute might be paid to his
memory.
I Lord CASTLEREAGH agreed to the suggestion
' of the Honourable Member respecting distinct. um-
: Dements ; and added to the motion----44 And also that
monuments to the memory of Lieut.-General Sir T.
Picton and Major-Gen. Sir W. Ponsonby should be
, erected in St. Paul's Cathedral."
I General GASCOIGNE spoke most feelingly In
praise of the merits of Sir Thomas Pictout and cog-
firmed what had been said by •Mr. Wpm's, as to
General Picton's wish, having had it sitrased from
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himself.
Mr. WM. SMITH spoke highly In famierof the
motion.
! Mr. WILBERFORCE did the same, and gave his
opinion of a palace to be built for the Duke of
Wellington being more appropriate, as well as more
economical than to purchase a house. We should
endeavour to convey our tribute of gratitude tithe
Noble Duke, to the world, and to posterity, in as
, magnificent a manner as possible. He expressed him-
''elf oleo highly gratified with the last addition made
to the motion.

Mr. BANKES said, the only qoestion was, that
whatever was to be dune, should be done in the most
honourable manner, and spoke warmly in favour of
the+ Address. _

Mr. M. FITZGERALD disapproved of our imi.
totting the conduct of France by retaliation of pil-
-lege. If any of the trophies were taken from Paris,
they should rather he restored to those from whom
they were taken. Out of the spoils of the field,
with the cannon captured, we might erect a mono•
ment, as was proposed in Russia. It was recently
remarked to oar great hero, that on our last en-
trance into France, our troops showed great delicacy
towards the French. The illustrious Duke answered,
" I v. ill.promise, if I can infceoee them, that they will
ire equally moderate now." [Mar !] This migna-
iiimity raised him almost above his military fame.—
Considering the situation of the three people of this
Empire, he thought that a national monument should
be raised at Edinburgh, and at Dublin, as well as
in London, so as to diffuse the testimonials of gra.
titude throughout the empire. The Scotch regiments
particularly, in whose numbers were many Irish, bore
the brunt of the commencement of this glorious tie•

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tory. [Hear !]
Mr. C. GRANT bore strong testimony to the
merits of Sir Aleiander Gordon, whose death was
a national loss. lie had ron a brilliant career,
though he fell at the age of twenty-nine, in those
great events which had crowded into a few weeks,
—deeds which might have been the record of centu-
ries.

Sir C. BURRELL, adverting to the proposed
m.nsion for the Duke of Wellington, observe 3, that
if a suitable one was purposely erected for him, he
;night wait 10 or even 20 years without a proper
house.

Mr. WILBERFORCE thought that the Noble
Doke would rather see his house gradually growing
up from year to year.
The motion was agreed to.
ILCHESTER ONOL.

•Mr. BENNE•IT said he had received an account
from one of the Members for Somersetshire, which
led him to believe that the statements in a Petition
from a Mr. Hill were chiefly unfounded.