The Statesman.
London, England, 1813-03-10 00:00:00

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that •Mr.:Pltt had such, udder .the .difficulties
subject presented ; reef of this,
it was add&, that he 'Orel" bad et‘triniunicated
bit plan. But it was certain, linte Mr. Pitt • went
eat of offitio in 1801, not: beetle* hie plan was Wt..
practicable, but from other w,elilknOwn obstacles.—
Teat distinguished seen thit very occasion, sent
s letter to the Catholics Of Ireland, in which he
ttiltl *inn, that " by Wing etith moderation, and'
pursuing a loyal and datityl. ITi)e of conduit, they
would afforcLickNtional gromss of argnment to the
growing number of their adiOcates in this country,
till their (keel was ultiamtell attained." Stich was
the language of the letter which Mr. Pitt caused to
be ttinunitted to Lord Fingall, Dr. Troy, and ethers.
ilf;ukti'agaln, did the Marifilis 'Cornwallis say on
that very occasion t He gavel his (omit opinion, an.:
netted to the' mime commiliticifilon, that the measure
of ematiCiptitm was neceisio,l'for securing the con-
nection between Great firitititi ind Irelairl.—[llear,
licer!]-Agaits, when the estion was brought for-
ward by Mr. Foe, in 1803, there was nothing in
the fairguege of Mr: Pitt ts.show that he considered
the measure impractkable., Ile said, them was a
bar to its agitation, thenature of which was ,uflici-
ently anderstOod,—but never (hit it was impractica-
ble. He even alluded to the gait, which he had en-
tertained, as.consisting of a variety Of regulations.
Nine months after this period, Mr. Pitt died ; so
that we. are` dew called'iNon to believe that what be
cOntemplatcd as practicable; for six years, within,
these nine short months he found out to be impracti-
cable. But what were the ditfiCulties under which
the great mind of
_Mr. Pitt was supposed to sink ?
Why, they were"thedifficultheaof promoting merito.
flow Catholic Officers on th% Staff of the Army ;
df admitting soca men as tOrd Fingal! into the
Mouse of Peers, and as'Sir P. Bellew into the House
of Commons_! ,These were the mighty difficulties
spider which his mind was supposed to have sunk,
who hid the ability to destroy 70 Irish Boroughs.-.
IHcar!i—.l here was a, difficulty started in the
rish Parliament, at the time when it was proposed
to grant the Catholics the, right of voting at elections,
it was then said, that an inundation of popery would
sweep away 'every thing before it. But What were
the effects of this restoration of Catholic rights?—
Ireland had evidently gained by it; the elections
were more free and independent; they were now
founded not on snonepo4, but on property and
re- spectability. In addition to Mr. Pitt, he begged
leave to name Mr. Burke, Mr. Fox, and Mr. Wind-
ham, distinguished statesmen and philosophers, as
atrenuous supporters of the Catholic •Claims. He
*night also enumerate men of learning like the Bishop
Of Liandalf, and the Bishop of Norwich, a name that
would be ever respected.—illear n--It was also re-
markable, that the Lord-Lieuteliants of Ireland, for
the la4t 70. years, were uniformly in favour of them.
Lord FifswjW,m ;was decid •dly so ; Lord Camden,
who 414 over to Ireland with opposite sentimenty rid
tyke lived in that country at a most trying time, when
could not avoid knowing the opinions of the Ca-
tholies, was ultimately for concession ; Lord Corn.
:Rallis publicly declared it necessary to the connection
between Britain mid 'lreland. This was the practi-
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cal conclusion formed by a statesman and a soldier,
at a mast ethical period of Irish history. Lord
flardwicke did not go over a friend to the measure ;
bet after some years' residence as Lard Liiutenant,
be altered his opinion, and now supperts it by his
Rote. His Right. Hon. Friend, the late'Seeretary
for (redid (Mr. W. Pole), had at ft rat opposed the
Catholic Claims on account of the obstacles that ex-
isted in certain quarters to the granting of these
Claims ; but when, by the removal of the restrictions
on the Ji,e.„etit, such ohstaclea were dope away, and
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eitabliihmentsof the churches of E . ngland, Scotland, . , y not; . ,____.
;or expressed such a !sentiment. The views however what these securities ought to be, or to 'elate to the
and frellind." * dictate
In. which I have indulged are,,' trust, strict, definite, House in. that respecte. Hes. had submitted this eon.
This being read by the chiirmin, . •9
The SPEAKER then rose, and addressed the , and guarded. They are, I believe, congenial to the sideration to their oWn discretion and judgment; atel
Chair tsti'the following elfeett-e • .i . character of the people of the country, who, al. although he was himself prepared to state his opistiott
1 ' " .MII. CHAIRiANI—As I hate not y4i Snot with though slow and chutiousi are ready to listen to on the subject, he had expressly stated, that he wish-
' ahvipportonity- Of expressing an opinion on the sub. every measure of improvement, ho serer, averse ed to hear the propositionsof others, and that he
ject under discussion, and as the Itteleolition. moved to wholesale. projects and indefinite innovation. was ready to go a great Way to' mea the ideas ~,f
by the 'eight Hen. Gentleman is Intewthel to serve . -6—l am far from. being an enemy to couces..t, other meti, rather than allot s, the great Driaz:Lae
as, 4 Otiis for future proceedings, I am -deslroul don, I. think there: are many things that may be which he advocated; that of Conciliation, to be rt'
as well as in'diSposition will allow me, of stating my ; safely and wisely conceded. I would in pap; jested. After a declaration so explicit, he thou.ett
. views of the question before you on this occastr.-1 titular give, and with- Si liberal hand, the ,hp. that it could not fairly be objected to him, that he
I feel, 'indeed,. the greater desire of so donee be- ! nours and distinctions of the military profession.-- was'not disposed to 'glee to iucls securities as might
cause, _when I enter my protest against the form of i All ranks in the army' should, in my judgment,-be. be sufficient for 'the prbtection of the estai-!i:,,a
proceeding which has been adoPted, I am icon- ; laid open to merit and ambition without any re. ; Church. As to the third plan, whichVraN that of
the Ndble 'Lord (Lord Ccstlereagh), he muse preens.
Pelted, et the same time to. .protest animal the : fereisce to religious opinions. I would willingly Pre...
mensere . itself, which that proceeding is intanded i peal the words of the Act of 1793, which exclude that hp did not quite understand it :' he sitoill(1,
timer of the isioh!e tir,w-
te carry into effect.—[Near, -hear !]--I wish, •Ike- I Catholics from becoming Generals of Staff. When
ever, leave the farther esplatott Rift, as well as the .1--
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wise; to accompany' this avowal with a statement I I except the' very highest military offices, I allude fence' oft?; llt the fittest-hmrds,-
of.those points wit!, respect to which it appea Ito I now to the situation of Commander in Chief in Eng. Lord himself. The !tight -Alone Wisher : (the
Speaker) had objected to centetiairany titii er wee
my judgment, further privileges may be come eel. i land, -Scotland, and in Ireland, it is only because to
sated to the Catholics, without detriment or :linger ! that situation there necessarily belongs a great de. tical power to the Ca holies. Tile : Parliament liad,
to the Constitution. Looking back to the 'purse! gree of political power. I would -open all the ,however, already granted a ptetiett of tilts civil and'
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that has been pursued; anti the various modes that i avenues likewise to the distinction of the Bar, be-
political povier'to them ; and je coalialot see shy
have been recommended for attaining the object ! cause I would have the Catholics run the race of it was un,afe to ge any farther toad eerliament find
which the advocates of the Catholics contethplate, ! honour, although I cannot acknowledge the ex., already done. A.ltheugh the Right Hon..,Member
I am strongly impressed with the persuasion that ! pediency. of putting power into their hands.-eei was so averse to.granting them and tern' or, political
this course will not be successful in the accorepliA. These are concessions which, the country at f power, yet it seemed 'that he wits disposed to,be ex.
ment of that object.—[Hear, hear !]—Of the Three large would cheerfully yield, and which are sane. ! tre:nely liberal to them its every tleug.witiChrega rded
plans which have been proposed, and in some Inn. tiotied, as I conceive, by,principles of the soundest ' hihboir,Wietherfolittir, otttnrlTTrunioftir rind
sure detailed to the House, one has been abandoned; policy. Much too may yet be dons on the score of .he was disposed to throw open to 000,01 degrees
of military promotioneandalso all the honoters of the
the second is not likely to succeed.; and the third is toleration : the Catholic soldier should not be ex.- '
notorilvssly impracticable.—{Neer, /war i] —The eluded by military regulations from the exercise of bar. Now he could have wished muctithatit had been
first plan was a• project of unlimited coacession—a I his own religious worship, nor the English Catholic known someYeareegb that such %vete theelritimentsof
' project for which there are, indeed, now to he found be compelled to attend Protestant churches, or sue. the Right Hon. Gentleman. If the Unieereity of
• but few advocates within these walls, although the, fer penalties for performing Mass. These are, how. Oxford had then known the Sentiments of their ex.
Right Hon. Gentleman, whets the author of the pre. ever, evidently rather illustrations of the view .I en- cellent and revered Representative, they would not
sent measure was once loud in Its support. That prin- certain upon the subject of qualified concession, have lent themselves to the object of opposing a Bill
ciple, however, the Right Hon. Gentleman has than detailed statements of all the points to which which went very far short of his ideas, and ist- eposce
' abandoned ;it is disclaimed by a Right lion. and that view is applicable. But there is . one other only the opening a small additiQnfif Military roam.
Learned Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett), who disaluguish. most important consideration to which I feel it my Lion to Catholic olficers.—[4stil criesof kee,
ed himself ou a former evenilfig, sad it may b.. there- duty to refer, and to state my opinion explieitly—lt hear, hear ! . from' the ' Uppolilo 1 Eenchrz]- if
fore, considered as rejected by every anthoriv in is the question which relates to the regulation of the such had been then knowh to 'have beetsl:is
' this [louse. The second plan, is that which pro. Catholic Hierarchy in Irelano.—Uleue, hear n--:- sentiments, he was.sure that the people of Rig.
fesses to aim only at qualified concession upon oh.'ro me that foreign influence and foreign inter. kiwi would never have joi'editt the cry against those
' tabling such conditions as are necessary to the Sc- course which have been Supposed by many, and ad- Ministers who proposed suc 1 a measure, dor in the
curtly of the establishments in Church and -State. milted by my Noble Friend (Lord Castlereagh) to genetal condemnation of a whole Administration,
The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grattan) has never ,he essential to any future arrangement, are causes merely for proposing to Parliament that which was
explained the details of those previous arrangements of very serious apprehension. The head of that far short of what the Right , Hon. Gentleman con-
e and regulations, nor did he adopt them as a part of his Hierarchy is now in the hands of our mortal foe, ceived the Catholics Were entitled to.. He could not
measure, until he found that they were essential to and Bonaparte has lately evinced his sense of the perceive, however`, that if military promotion, and
its reception. My Itt. Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) important advantages derivable from Papal Whs. all the honours and influential• offices were- open to
who in the last Parliament submitted the question ence.—[llear, hear!]—Do we not know that that Catholics, that there could be any pnamice ht
ito the consideration of the House, took as his basis influence has obtruded foreigners into Catholic . keeping. them from 'othereeiteatititis.l. IT .lie. ludo-
' the necessity of regulation and security. We know Bishoprics in -Ireland, and that General Ilumbert ' lics were raised,' Ind merle inure poiverful than tilt"
that this principle .the Catholics resist, they declare found, on his lauding, the brother of a French Ge. I were, their ambition" would lead them to wish for
Ithat they will submit to ac State inspection, or to any neral in possession of an Irish See ?—Surely it is i/ Seats in ParliaMent; •aa f)er-hops to 'desire More ar-
contronl over their own Church.—{!leer, hear!]— then incumbent on the Catholics to oiler the same . dently that which. wai 'kept from them. As (4
:This their determination was declared in November, securities and submit to the same coutroul witlrh ;Loill Claretithan's opinion; who thought that soie
1812, both in the resolutions of their public meet. hale beets exacted and exercised by every other Pro- : ritual end temitirsite allegiance were the same
ings, and In the work of Mr. Clinch, who has been testaut State that has admitted Catholics to the enjoy. : thing, and that there .tould be no spirituel
avowed by several' Catholic prelates to 'be their ad- meat of equal privileges. If•they will not make the , allegiance ihich ,was' not so much taken ewer
vocate and organ. Thes far the Right !limper- -offer,. or yield the same securities, the blame is their ' from the allegiance to the, 'State,, he would asg,
able Gentleman's measure will not satisfy the Ro. own, no blame can attach to Parliament; and the' who made Lord 'Clarendon a 'perfect judge of the
' man Catholics • but atiother part 'of his measure is statute of Elizabeth, modified and rendered millets.; Catholic faith ? Ile thought it. much more reasotor,
the repeal of the test and corporation laws, and will ble to.the present time and to existing circumstances, ! able to, take the doctrines of that filth' 'Rohnthese
' this satisfy the Church of England.--[ilear, hear!] I should be enforced. When I refuse political power ' Who professed it. If Lord Clarendiees opinion was
It appears then that the two great parties to the ar- I to the Catholics,- it is because I cannot reconcile it i correct, how carne Parliament 'to coucede any thing
rangement in contemplation do not approve it, and to the security of the Protestant Establishment. The ,' to the Catholics?—The opitsion of Lord Clarendon
. the main object .of general conciliation is therefore Catholics continue to maintain the spiritual supre. ' was, 'however, denied by the oaths of the Ceieeliets.
not attained. The third plan of a Noble Viscount, macy of the Pope, and although history will inform ! and Parliament .hind in t.heir totem! conceSsiOsi relied
which depende on the possibility Of Odin the con- us OW this doctrine is not an essential principle of i upon those oaths, cud ant otantt Lis Lordship's itpi.
• currence of the Catholics to every condition which Catholicism, yet where it is so considered the nem. i nion. High as the authority2aLloitaj.clarentlett
. can be prescribed with a view to the security of the laity which it. imposes on States to guard against its i was, and bowcater, great a faetittritC'h#eaturelle was
Church of England, is still less calculated to provefexereise has been always obvious and undisputed.:— -with the I.lniversity•or. Oxford, ,yet he tresteil,-that
practically efficacious. Thus, then, all the plans II ma/ quote on this head the Wimp. of eta lesiesui his
.epiuiotas epow this point-never wonid tlecidi the
yet dertsettor i
are deficient or authority than Lord Clarendon, who, after a long : determinations ot Parliament. The Rightl.lollr-
_ mod, __ - _ _able Member had conceiveck that the securitiesaught

after h 4 ,t lion. Friend had derived, froni a fire to the end which they propose. Ina Committee, land • unwearied investigation on'this subject, 'pro-, ,le ,
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Rats' official residence In Ireland, a high degree of , however, upon the present 1 state of the question, I flounced the result of his enquirieS and rejections to ito preccdr..the 01.0 tieltStei,":lllatcase, what . sect-
elperienceon this subject, lie had toted in favour of the must embrace the opportunity it affords Ine,• of ob. be, that any allegiance paid tonnother power, splei. ray would thetwASett'f!. littl-C4oool_ 4,lllitlise'gotnidsg-
'Catholics, and had stated, that in his opinion the coon- iecting altogether to the form and character of the trial of temporal', is 'taking from that which is due Maas Would follow?", ;I he "ebony euff.tehrthe'itig!K
howevOr.i• seetre.4. f.r? retiuire wall
Sly could not do well without some measure of the measure to which we are now required to ammo.— te the Stile, and that to assert the latter not to be I lion. Geniletna",
.kind., There was a time when Catholic Emancipa- [Hear, hear !] We are desired to acquiesce in a diminished, is. perfectly illusory, and- little better i that in the first' pface, he. •Ctiitiolics. shituld 4
lion could not have been heard •of without horror ; sweeping repeal of all the statutes and provisions that;
.11 species of legerdemain. I would address I.clare, tfitit'the Pniie he'd no alskrifnal; Ilan'N'-in -the!r
but the intenseness of the prejudice, as had been stated ; which have been made for the safety of the motes. the Catholics in the words of the inhabitantrin the 1 Church, and disclaim Pi athoriti.. ": On such trio*
by an Lion. Gelit, on a former night, and it was a! tent establishment,without Pterious assurance or coo" 'North of Ireland—if you- cannot give up what yon i the Catholics could never 'obtain say coniessitiutti,
.word of choice selection, the inienieness of the pre- . dition, to surrender entire all the guardsestablished call year faith, neither can we surrender our Consfi. , as long as they,centieu,t-.1 To "be Vtrbolies.--60eli
judipe had been weakened. those professing the two 'by our ancestors, to.yield advantages 'which are cer- fution.—Near 1 The Committee must, • however, ! language would appear to them a*: r. ••'•'kerit anti
religions had advanced much nearer to each °thee" in lain and immediate, and to rely on defences which take cognisance of the prayer of the Petitions on the 'an insult. Instead of erecting. 'a' diSposition to
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KO lA. ; so that though they still differed on points of 'are subsequent and contingent.---[hear, hera•!]—: table. That prayer appearg.-10me to have been too !
make concessions to them, and' dews:oo,l. in return
faiths they were m.fch more likely than formerly to We ire required to eive free access to the privy Ceen...!imperiously erged, and. to have been expressed in '1a surrender of their faith and their reliee.e3l.3 thou:::tt
'coalesce in other respects. lie Intended then to cif, to the Judicial eßench, to opon the doors of *Par- : latiguago too, lofty 'for the occasion. If Kaigland . that it u outd be better to tell them 'in plain, inielli-
prorse iteEolutions,—fira, that the Catholic disabi- !lament, to abolish the Test Act, which the Prince; should comply with that prayer without qualification igible, and honest language, si Myatt! ..Iny equivneatinn
litiukshould be removed i' second, that the establish- of Orange insisted on retaining when he ascended ior reserve, she will ,be England' no longer.— .or mental revrvation„ that nothing must be gra'4 d
snentsiu Church and State ought to be secured; and the English throne. I must confess I am not one Should- ail religious distinctions be laid prostrate,' unto the Cathulio, until they should cease to In' ‘'r:
be should thee propose regulations for the Eecle- of those who consider old checks as iiispplicalle to - our political. pre.endnence will not long survive.— ; tholics. lie thought it would lk) 1104 rall.o. to -sl'e ''`
siastical Cods, and other matters, and an oath against' new dangers, or who think that those safegoards •*Sfvelt; however, must be the effecr attending the •ilittin, and not conceal the real Mean* Under% am-
foreign influence. It might be demanded of him to erected by our forefathers, for thopurpostrof eaclud..': chimerical profit •t of what is c:,:led universal roll- higueus and equ;vrical phrases. ' Ile thOsniht taut if
state the regulations; but be would not, and for this ing a.Pretender to the Crowno . __
ea b.; oSerni. in : Onus liberty, if it is to persued at tire exp
poser
of , auy arrangement was to be•enteredinto.tor'the pur.
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- `wider - these • home, ,civil expediency, andto the -manifest peril fall our •p. of coeciliation, each_patty ought fto teew what
establishments. .1 em ' lorry to have occupied so - they were shout. if tie -House sheadil. express its
much 'of. the attention of the House, but I was I readiness to grant COneeltili.ni nu -certailk.quilitinot,
di nximas to state qn what grounds I could not give 1 they certainty would ratitl. bow- A.g
‘.4'l"a tiler is
my assent to a meastivii.of so general and sweeping a' it, unless those COuilisi' oui Could ;tit, oittiiimed,
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"nature,' •an so subversive In Its tendency of lthewhieh hie -*Pre disposed to .make. fro concessions;
. hinieit bul Waal tiii surround the Constltutlon." or.onletitheird igiiosition for „ednestsldlitt„ies atet•!ily
CimmicAoris-1.. ' - - a a correspourtni~itifis iskAtawar; Of die tea:.
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1,1 12'‘, r eason, that under pretence of opposing these regula- protecting us either against, 'a disturber at home,
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Cons, some Gentlemen would oppose the principle. 1 or the machinations of the subterter of empires eel
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twoetaltouly say, that if any Gentleman on the other' abroad. After all that has been led with respect mi
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talued the principle so much, that he would not be by very few without quellacations and reservations,
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that. fool to lose by precipitation and punctilio.—' and that an ecclesiastical admonitioirlutd been .pte- •ar
ClissaFshcai:!)--Ilis object waste lay the soilltintirPritts meigeted, Instructing those to whoa tai nib' bid • p
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that a diversity of opinion, as to the mode of effect. then move for !mkt, WI ng be a Mit' est us. wise : ~...7- ---7- . 12, ~
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thought is, right to enter into a detail of these 'AI.
. 1 . ~., ' the first ' git .!` ' : Ihics. Hs Right lion. Friend had, tionever nao;
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'km' ‘rit'iesne".t neither sbeuld he concMtp. himself juti6:l in
ca-:siedo neg.
pxTrIA 'y7p_decriniraiperettille
to unity of principle with regard td the object. All tho t'. t ' ..4 ‘'• ,
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were agreed, that the Church of England, the Church csiolf; ' • , j • „ , .1.. • „tril - t .ii t
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poll° t... 1 will'ilcigh'l7sl;thnightbtellporne•s;
Wes unsistailtarith the 'welfare of the ,State, you depriso toe caliti•istdittr. bil iitirlaentl, .. . Pitginatow.
saiiht -liam.different..modea_of ' W'. Ist an might be asked,. wbittie.titholiCs i It. P ,
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,pooe t a n . .thittitwhibiltZpliee. Was- that if Parliament showed a dis Itib ' '
Pal A. to
wen; iite/"""T'42ear i"t ult .4 ; ai,' ajcitihsi the vtoteakielef Iser..ne-et-iliiiiiiiiin. bidy? .i: , ~.ikettestsitil,pe of se - .thoto:Claims jo the Catbolloorlogiout i .
II , atone ea. •6 Arl ;ht.
AA; tment•Srit hat/•h hed for ever. • IL" Ican. to expect
Fitted iiii it the, gelter ,- i iiiiiiiet ,-. i i tlifpiC The sterol
.iiiiibililli parltiinitintlitidefitit-grien:tll#l-714 - • nis ? .71..• ,. . and desseed ,an
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trai ~- (-..ffarat.' 4ficoutigenteist. - ,Ileilslieie .the, lialW4-Paribvinwil ,r. -0Y eyes la 1,11°44r eq till' 41114.11 Pl4l, conciiiistideketi'litOe ;paw.' sp
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. ~„ . m.. 4ht Hon. Gentlemen's oceedi • ; The effect of ' mit a ree owe . coot"
cebtlebat Ai' gill • ~qAtie.Prop,. - Steed 61, slisoilldlie otreeoltretetted out lo thecuthelichi'theye ,
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miursehdlite 'ect-tif midatchtioft, and i Matte, et'' would be many wise and moderate' inough .te.ttin-*'; Producing .t4e Pill and suffering it to lie over till the ! ember; that any of the three* L pl-is'which beim,.
debate. WIA lientiby'renedied teiti ihalhe COM:: ' brace It. By thus evincing a coneflielnry disposition next,,Seig9n; "kit she, 1 fear,• to raise shlgh' tiape. ; Boned to have been, prOpoied, had tutee,.
'bat:.
mitten, t*,lit feiliAtibidefi that CatholleßniaisiliPe-' to the CatholiCS. Parliament ineld;at all events shot titioai ationg the Caihotics, and to spread dissatia. !. dotted. As to the ftiit phial of untivaliliedesincessinak
tient Islat, a lineationOf ditiulty, Was net is tides: that the.fault did not remain with tbein,. if the nieitri fatal* :And ,taint 'through the Church of England. fri..m which its advocates !ere supposed to have
tier'. ot inipossibility. ,The quesilon, indeed; before , sure should he unsucgessful, . Let the* send out tlf 1 -I.lll,ertki.fieor rl-Thire is a principle which has shrubk,•lie belieied no Member. of that ifouso-Itad
the ComMittee, inialit be c*iiehended under. three !dine, however,. and they might depend on his bring.: hien powerfully pressed, to.which I cannot assent, - proposed such a plan, and therefore that irhicli Wlti
hiads s'-''The ISt wes iitig.- *fly. rbi %rboget, ; I ing back the olive—C/Iw, hear !]—Pe concluded Peenule I regard itiass false and mischievous prin. never proposed could not hoe ,biinitovidoiled.._
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e ,'Eitilitiiisthe Chord 'Oily eveii reqnistietle.: l• by moving his 'first Besolution, declaring the • ciple of policy; it iithafyou ought to give power The eeco.id plan; of -making concessions. to the ('a.
curity 1 dint .the SS, litipelir Ott CitndttiCHlSllllCOM.; i expediency of removing the Cathalicdisatiilities, with to those who are hostilely disposed towards you, tholics, accompanied by securities to. thu established
pittible thi 'eftbolic faith's; 'Pike • Isere -the beads • eiVARPOIMI NO ; regulations, and the security of the -in order to abate' their hostility!, ' But do I there. Church, bad certainly been in no degree abantlonPil,
or Whit he should lure to
li;iiiiinke..- ii And heed 1 Yikestioetlititession to the Crown; and that of the fort..lnfer that motgn ought to .reinaln.just• as they although -the securities were not particularly stated -
_ -- • •—_, . . ._ •• _l__ .._ _ _.,..e:.__..,!_._ ! -ke-hmilerwintaa the churches of' England, Scotland, now stand ? certainly not; never hove I entertained •His Hight Hon. Friend had-not alter 'to •
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