The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-03-24 00:00:00

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.Oe -ogre iiepetli.ekoklioi; ti),
bitaots of,-Welentinster, .to• decide for they.
vie.. , It Might lie coaskatired ebtreilfalis 101.X:414t: 1
to ,SOVinit, in ;het vilaie,..ini propinittim ihielsi
net been prpviinsily everted mit a traiveie aseit7
of _a Committal.. Thiiiiesterktyll 4battP tai
dike; sod in eneseqeeece of:tihit practice, the
opinions of the citizens at large had generittg
sinters
kiloreared with cootemin.—tcria, if N., lea !--
. .. le! and hirers, mixed zitk sore op-
)—Mr. Hunt proceeded. , ' tie. raid he
iontesided that my Petition to the Haase of Cons.
moos, whether printed or not, if mew' pit, their
mews to it, mast be cobildered sa the Patitiiin of
those who signed it, gad that, therefore, it eight to
the received. It was as mach the Petition of.thoie
orliti Signed it; as if it .were written by their own
loads ; bet, according to the doctrine of she Noble
.Lord, and of the Home over the way, it was.laid
down that no Petition should be printed. Bet he
umintained that it was at once contrary to right, to
tritr, and tirpreeedent, to kick Petitions oat of the
mouse on alma seCoest. He therefore hoped the
prop!lsition of pm Noble Lord would be witbdrasin.
land dust the Major's Resulatioo would be-pat anti.
carried. He was the mere analogs on this point, be-
cases be did sot see how they could othowisa adopt
the remaining Itesoletions of the miserable Major,
who, they ell knew, was the indefatigable champion
of the cause.
Major CARTWRIGINT mid, the Noble Lord mis.
took the object be bad is view, by his Resolulloo..--;
It was an illegal act for the Movie to refine any Po.
titions to which signatures were attached, whether
written or printed. All Petillooers had a right to
print or write, just as they plowed. Five or iis
years ago, the late Speaker of the .Howse of Cale-
awns, who had as sharp GO eye aid as. lens a sight
as any mats, knew that headlock of Petitions were
Melded to be presented to the. House- sad that they
were all printed. He thee theeght it wield be a
good opportunity to pet en end to them all; end
therefore he said it was contrary to the roles of the 1
Howe to receive them. He therefor* (Major C.)
wrote to the Speaker, is order to get his *Ogee 1
right on the subject. The nest time a Pella** .4
the kind came forward, the Speaker said it was dm.
trery to the practice of the Homo. That espressiow
was also incorrect, and was contradicted by the
Joernals of Parliameit. It was easy to see the drift
, of the Spiker, as it wu to nobly tbs. Beraoghs.
mongers to pet an end to petitioning altogether. lb
hoped, therefore,. that the doctrine, which was wkeni.
illegal, woeld.be resisted. He had no objectioilW
agree to the Resolution of the Noble Lord ; bet it
ought not to be substituted for his, which he hid
hoped would be agreed to.
Mr. WALLIS said, that satin it could be preVett
that a Petition in print was loss intelligible tbs I
Petition io inannscript, it might he received. .Re
therefore wield not consent that Major Carterigist
shoild give op bin Iffesoletion. Petitions in p.
were necessary, became it was necessary to have the
opioiene of the People as universally diffused as pos-
sible.
Lord Comsat's again said, that printed Petitions
I. did not appear to mosey the sentiments of these who
signed them. The local grievance; of the People
' were always best impressed in their own words, which
1 werealways rare iently Intelligible to enable the Pah-
& to judge of Oar geodesists.
Mr. HtritT observed, that as his Lordship persisted
In his Assothotrot, it was necessary to &aphis what
would be the gooseqoasico. If it was adopted, then
the Original RilliOlotiOn COIIIII not be proposed. It
Ins, therefore, sibessar, to Dilative the Noble Lord's
Anseadsoot ; bet be woad afterwards cheerfully
jets in carrying it as a dialect Resolution. If they
west oh *pop this principle of printed Pinkie's., it
would by-aod-bye be said, that no man 'ought, to
adopt the Lord's Prayer, biome it was printed.
. Sir Faillcie Boanwer pet the qoestion. The
Amendment was rejected? and the original Resole-
lion carried almost' eneolotoesly.
Major CAlLTWaintic said be begged to propose a
Petition to the House cif Commons, with a view to
correct that which appeared to bo very erroneous con-
duct on the pert of that Horne' towards Petitioiss.
Mr. CLeAaw read the Petition on the Subject of
rejecting primed Petitions.
The Petition %ovine been reed,
Major Cauvefatout moved diet it be signed by
the Chairman, and nineteen Honseholden of the City
of Westminster, in order to its being presented to
the !loose of Commons.
Mr. Hoer said, that whenever he felt ata attempt
at deception was going forward, he bid alwaysfalt
it hie duty, and ahead now, to lay it befort Me
fellow-countrymen. He had attended ilals Meetitig
preparatory to the present one. At *at. Meeting the
several Resolutions which Major Cartwright prw.,
posed were agreed to. The previous Aloetioginti;,
agreed to call a Meeting" of the Inhabitants of. OW,
City of Westminster, and the persons attending Itl
signed a notice, to be given. to the Clerk ,et the'
Peace, in which it was staid, 6‘ We, the undersigned;
do, hereby give notice, that a Meeting of the Bosun!,
holders,. lubaltitiets, fie. will. be celled oo sucks
day." Now this notice had been done away with, and'
a freth notice, lot signed as, the fermer had been,
'obolited in its stead ; the corkargernce was, .that as
'.the notice at pretest stood, none hit Householders
bad any bushiest to be'. Riesect, Was a. canvass to
Sage place to ascertain who.were Hoeseliolders aid
who were not ?-01f all ;pee the Hornell:Orr,
Weste.iester had lest reason to csiseplein this any I.
the-country, for airy were represented sad eight
return to Parliintent. whole Ater liked; bet the rod,
habitants of Westminster were not represented, and,
therefore bad-reason to whiten a Petition 14' Plaiill-

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111▪ 1141144iffeektiats ilbi err the Propriety tit
iendOg the... Petition and Resaations to inhabhists.l
(et; his swectiairt4. It Mini Of no 4:eniestretttiti to Ma
almither the Petition..was presented :to. • floSii
Opposite or set, for, he wen-of opiefon, those.
who lort.,yearited bsdikelr Patittaii kklti nr
Hewes were much *re bewailed-
trbi bad bid them reeelie4. Ttk
▪ theA whit he broaght for:herd 4
b ift Jilts Ivey to the Peblic. It was
ti!,!- *PIN 00 b!..ki kaki I;sitiliN
ittejila pervensi:attensteacr, he would
essitt.the case width", pen. however,
*Nat, ley,, its .mine to. the *Tanners
mould prevent its being:feria. Upon the
Petitions be weeld obserte, thatbr happened
iit the Home of „Cnutinses hat Viee.43 at -
opportunity of seeing the way in which
were presented: Dnubtlegs the wait
would. he treated is iii same way. The r'
my, this is the Petition of the Inhablti
Hosisekolders of the City of Westminster,
Oren staff it into his bag, and there would
of it. The only as as Petition was, that ,
in farliansest, tam contests might 4it forth
cnestry ; bat if they were shoventer
being.tead, and thee stetted into a Seg, they
well set be presented at all.
blir.,Cu.tits.ss Pat, of the Adelphi;
to 'address the .1411Ct011, hit be was so
.repted-if peashigi 'utilise N lastly
the attempt. . . .
Alsjor Caerwateirrsaid, that with regard
distinction noticed byT. Mr. Heel, be endersood.that.
the first farm of the Rt*i4ition happened r -
respond with the Act of parliament coder
were esambled ; bet M. Cleary solid
alteration. Ile would jest obserre, that
his recollection went, in Middleses It
bees the practiCe, tiutrary. to his opinion,
Bette the Freeholders : bst in Westminster
sleets understood it to hate been the practice
lobairitent Householders. He remembered,
time ago, when the Doke of Bedford ,
lion from n Meeting in Sliddleles.of the ,
and three or foot .other Noble*. gigged _
a Bimini; of the Inhabitants of Midakseei
Sheriff mede such objections to the form, -
were obliged to slier it to freeholders.
recollection in Westminster of any altar
Inhabitant Hoose.holders bating bees the ~
He did-not think it a right practice; bet the
given for it was this—lt had bees obiervet),
aged near the metropolis, if, in addition
holders and Freeholders, the Luttabilints
discritninately called together, many,
sidered by some as improper persoasoti
ender that general description. Upon.,
occasion, the form usually adopted bad '

ed
to.
Mr. CLCART said, that Mr. Heat had
Gentlemen who called the Meeting with r
to repel that charge, Is *meld call the
the Meeting to the Notice signed et a
ing. It would be observed that they
',Ambled in a different meow from
bees. Os framer eecaslowe It wee by *dale
tip t illsreeeholdera calling epee the
soeVell4l • Meeting of the Inhatfftast
There is id heels no Public Meeting for
yNn, that had not bien called is
lobabitant Hoeseholders ; aid fee what
'koala be any deviation from that mode,
he coda sot see. The city of Westminster
a great deal by their former Meetings
of liberty ; and they had always met as
Householders. At pelmet they did not
had formerly dose, soder the sailboat;
Bailiff, but under the authority of ao
meat, upon the requisition of seven
A notice had been iignetll'calitog only .
of Westanioster together. They had not
of Parliament, bet upon looking into
it was found that the notice did sot point
form if the Act, sod as they did not wish
power to the Magistrates which they we,
glad of the opportunity of ezerciehig, they
it right to be es strict as possible,
fosse to the Act. Another deviation
sal motion was, that the Meeting had
to be called at Covent-garden ; bet
flue Act they found that as neither the
Parliament nor the Caserta of Lew were
might lawfully meet in Palate-yard •
they had changed the place of liffieting
faced, as being more convenient.
motif be' no just imputation of fried
win as he bad done. He would est
Attack, as he now did, in the teeth
made k.
Mr. HUNT enplained, and disclaimed
if using the word deception or fraud
sense.
The Petition was put to the vote,
unanimous!".
Major CARTWRIGHT then moved
ftesololiaes.—He recommended the
tki. People of the country to adhere
firmly believed in his conscience, there
tag productive of public patriotism, and I
*s Gnaws' Meetings. Yet esperienee
propriety of these being duty end regale(
Lord Cocitaine came forward.
should lot be eeosidered as in any
se obstacle in the nose ; but, be contended
F 4 Irate» Of Westminster ought not
pay obedience- to the liw enacted dot
Tyrant: He bad had above four
Petitions stouts hies, alma is that
oily believed many of tbelN cotes so,
Joalsrese pnipose of bringing the chow
a • hid no doubt bet bed be pretested
lieete hi would have beets **Oa by'
monger', and perhaps told that himself
the deception. Hp was fully osiers It
iiisFa of Pefilic Meeting., mod toisidireld
heat bolitark of liberty. Fear was the t
iintive. which operated toe. that Hopositakii
4feeisit, conscious of, their seal-odesioistration
PnWic affairs, they weeeNfraid to.
alit Wit 'hi patine v4;lo* T 14",. acid
Ilit apse ease for that titans" ie e remise
drove the Electors Worn Palace-yard
-Orden; sad it eatisfaeterbildiseed the s.
'regard the Members had for the iatettste'ed

41 event : as the rases! Petitisp was worded e
6%41,44' bet a Booseltsidet bait a right to sign it. Hew
.. .e. .
6., este IN its r estet'slmw,he weals,. se,ppert it;i
4,41i5, tilittist Petiti;sis, at beveitreelleqens, thew
r, that ttreeght tortnied eii tbe iiseVetiC *cc-Blots by I
raeg. Cs rt *Oita - Ifsa ikyiee -ItlntOreiiiiidt li fill • p
-_ask 1
iHe twang support thee one sod all. He

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piety et
inhabitiets.l
'tenor to him
rs. the
' that Sheol.
:eked 94i 9r•
• than-those
For hat
t his, day
,was
to be thopli4*
if littebie. to
1 colitis., le
'aP!ll4l wait, • f
ri .s art: •
the 'object of .
opened to tie..
and • had as:
ich Petitions
teat Petitioi‘
ralittint,
,sad
erg ha ,vrould
old be so end
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Ist being react
forth into the
Olt Vh4iiit,
they might as
eidelmasr,rti
tenth interi.
df tit It" oil ,
regard to the
ellortfoodillat
ed sot leave.
lee which the,
ild ezphde the
hat as far w •
t had altiniri.
lake, testi.
ismer be -het
practice of t‘e
hired, a short
a lard.
teliredelsolders,
•
oede.eetice for
Middleton, the
'ores, that they
•
rs. He had nn
lbw. fires thus
the practice.—
bet tits reason
siervid, vbatlit
[lea le Hesse.
tints weie
who were ease.
*avid assemble t.•
pen the present,
id bees remelt.
had alt Urged the
Ith a freed, sad
the atteetioe of
revises Ideal.
y vote ,11811 U. .
what they hod
aerials Inhabit.,
High Belli, to
tt Hoeasholders.
or the last amid.
the same of the
'hat reason there
de. he coofessed
elute, bed dose.
s for the Mee
u the lahebitent
tot wet, as
irity of the
o Act of Perlis.
is Householderi.
y the iebabiteets
net thee the Act
o It ettegwertle,
point the Ponies •
wish to give that
would have bet‘
they bad thought . .
In order to con.
e from the origi. •
id bees intended
t on looking into
e two Houses of
en sitting, they.
I ; and theatres*
ieting to Palace.
He trusted Irma
d or &replier+ in.
wee repel sech as
eth of him Win .
red any intention
ad in an egression
rte, and adopted'
-
the sth and nth
se Elearkrs; ayd
le to this law.,Hol
here was noihisi
and public spirit,
once showed the 47,
golarly inmiceers.
, He trusted be
• re.pect being.
Detended 'het the
,1 to consent to. •
sting the reign or
r hundred forced • .
hat war ; and he
so,forged for the
teat: into ridicule..
rated these io .the
.br the. Boregigls;
•
elf was. party
re of the leyort.,
sidere'd these die,
✓ev the streelekt . .
Iles .
idetioistretioe
meet the Teopiti.
rich tide iely, iron
emus Aet; which.
y. aid to 4:11TIP0o,
d thb tell, -mai'
treshret the Pee.