The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-06-24 00:00:00

THE ,STATESM3N.

Mtn'. He hoped the Treasury would, for the future, ex-
ercise a proper cheek and eontroul over those accounts.
Lord PALMERSTON defended the Committee, and that
his opinion of Mr. Constantine Jennings was quite the re-
verse of that entertained by the Hon. blember. With re-
spect to Mr. Parsons, nothing was proved before the Com-
mittee to justify them in dismissing him. The arrangements
made in the office at present were sufficient to insure a check
over the persons engaged in it.
Mr. RICARDO said that he was a Member of that Com-
mittee, and was surprised to hear his lion. Friend say that
there was no disposition in it to get at the truth of the
charges made. The fact was that the evidence given by Mr.
Jennings was of such an eccentric character, that no confi-
dence could he reposed in it.
Mr. BANKS expressed a similar opinion respecting Mr.
Jennings, and contended that the Committee was fully dis-
posed to hear the evidence.
Mr. HUME said that Mr. Jennings was not suffered to
go into the evidence. Ile was ready to prove all the
charges he had made. There was, indeed, one charge
against an Hon. Member, which he had picked up after ten
years, and which, though rumoured about so long, was
found to be untrue.
Sir T. P. COURTENAY said he was surprised to
hear the Hon. Gentleman say that Mr. Jennings had
proved all his charges. He bad been charged by him
with a legal offence, and the Hon. Member said it was
not the fault of Jennings, because be had picked it up
in a public house after ten years circulation, though it
was found to be false.
Mr. HUME said that the best proof of the truth of all
the other charges brought by Mr. Jennings, was that an
alteration was made in the office.
The vote was then agreed to,as were also several other
votes for stationery, printing, and binding for the public
offices, and for both Houses of Parliament. •
Lord PALMERSTON moved that 189,4731.. Be. 10d.
be granted for the disembodied Militia. of Great Britain.
for the year 1823.
After a few words from Mr. HUME and Col. DAMS,
the vote was agreed to.
A vote of 99,2481. nits then agreed to foe ihe service
of the disembodied militia of Ireland.
On the resolution fur granting 5,8701. for the pro paga-j,
tion of the Gospel in the Canadas.
Mr. HUME said that the vote was quite new, and re-
quired some explanation.
Mr. WILMOT said that the funds applicable to the
Missionaries, and -school masters' societies, were inade:
grate to its objects, and some assistance was found neces-
sary, for which purpose the present vote was introduced.
Colonel DAVIES thought that the expense of the
Missionaries should be paid by the Church Establish-
ments of the Colonies.
Mr. HUME said that the House had already voted
10,2001. for the Missionaries Society in the North Ameri-
can Colonies. That sum was quite sufficient, and he
thought that the country should not be called upon for
any further vote.
Sir JAMES MACINTOSH would not resist the an-
nual vote, nor would he refuse to acquiesce in the present
vote for this year only, but he thought the subject should
be inquired into.
After a few words from Mr. GURNET and Sir Luc
COFFIN, the House divided :
For the vote, 49—Against it 2l—Majority for the
vote, 2S.
EMIGRATION FROM IRELAND TO CANADA.
Mr. WILMOT proposed a vote of 15,0001. to encou-
rage emigration from the South of Ireland to Canada
and,the Cape of 'Good Hope.
Mr. ABERCROMBY objected to the grant, on ac-
count of the smallness of the sum. He contended that
snch a measure in the present state of Ireland to be
effective, must be extensive.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said that a great part of the dig-
tress of the superabundant population of Ireland arose
from the Newfoundland fisheries. When these fisheries
i flourished, the persons engaged In them used to transport
themselves into America, but this species of emigration
had recently ceased altogether. He had no ohleetion to
support any measure which had for its Ara the employ-
ment of the Irish poor, but he wished Ministers to explain
the regulations by which the present grant would be go-
verned.
Mr. WILMOT explained that this grant was not brought
forward so much with a view of giving any extensive relief
to the poor of Ireland,as to explain to them by this example
how far Government were disposed to go In assisting them
to transport themselves to Upper Canada, the latter of which
was the Colony more immediately In view. He had satis-
faction in stating, that from the success which attended those
who had settled there hitherto, there was every reason to
hope that future settlers would not fare worse. Ile could
also state, that the districts in Ireland, from which the emi-
gration took place, were amongst the most quiet of that
country.
Mr. ABERCROMBY hoped that no encouragement
would be given to persons possessing property to leave the
country.
Mr. WILMOT said care would be taken in that respect.
Mr. RICE expressed his gratitude to the Govenuneat for
hiving turned their attention to this subject.
Mr. GURNEY approved of the grant.
Mr. HUTCH INSON said be was willing to give Govern-
ment credit for what they had done, but they still owed a
debt to Ireland, which it would require ages of good offices
to discharge.
Mr. PEEL said that the great object was to render Gad-
gratlon popular in Ireland. It was necessary then to begin
on a small scale, so as to enable Government to proceed
successfully with its plan. Ile thought that the mode of giv-
ing permanent relief to the Irish poor was to remove the re-
strictions on the trade of Ireland.
Mr.J.SMITH was eonvineed,from facts which came to his
knowledge, that the greatest benefit would result to Ireland
from the grant of a sum of money for the encouragement of
the Linen Manufacture. The Irish Committee had advanced
a sem for that object, and, from the result, he was led to
form the most flattering anticipations.
Mr. •D. BROWNE said, the House had only one duty to
perform, and that was to encourage and foster the Linen
Manufacture of Ireland.
A MEMBER said, that he was sure much good could be
done by the means mentioned by his Right Hon. Friend ;bet
let the absentee landlords put their heads together, end ea-
courage that branch of manufacture.
Mr. RICARDO said, that a great deal of caPital might be
advantageously laid out in Ireland—why was notcapital
sent there'? Because of the insecurity of property there
arising out of the state of the law. Let them remove that
impediment and the consequence would be that capital would
flow into that country. He protested against die principles
'of pecuniary grants on the part of Government, for the pur-
pose of commercial encouragement.
Sir J. NEWPORT thought that it would bp in vain to
hope for the investment of capital in Ireland until steps
were taken to tranquillize Ireland, and make the law of
force in that country. Those who laid out their money in
Peruvian and Colombian Loans would .gladly invest,
money in Ireland, provided they saw that any security
existed there for the preservation of their property.
Mr. J. SMITH said, in explanation, that he did eof
mean that the grants should never be repaid.
Mr. C. HUTCHINSON warned the House agaimt
pursuing the present system of Government' of Ireland.'
The people were most miserable—they were in a state'
of distraction from long suffering. Let the Govern-
ment take care that they did not ultimately lose that
island. Something speedily ought to be done for Ire-
land, and it was imposstole she could long remain in that

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situation.
Mr. PEEL said be most protest against being thought
to view the condition of the people of Ireland with apathy.
He avowed a strong attachment to Ireland, and would
wish to afford relief to her distresses. But he was sure
that the best way in which he could show that disposi-
tion,was to speak out honestly the truth, although the ex-
pression of it might be opposed to the current of popular
sentiments.
Mr. MONCK was anxious for measures which would
compel landlords to reside in Ireland.
The resolution was agreed to.
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The next motion was to grant a sum of NV. to the
Reverend Foster Atelier, beiog a retired allowance for
his services as inspector of prisons.—Agreed to.
On a motion for granting 7,00 W. in aid of benevolent
Contributions towards the support of schools kt Ireland,
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that before he agreed to
this rote, he wished to be informed whether the money
was likely to be applied to the purposes orlginally in-
tended—these of extending the benefits of education to
children of all religious persuasions?
Mr. GOULBURN said this was a sum which bad

been granted for three years past by the advice of three
respectable gentlemen of Dublin, and the grant was cal-
culated to draw forth the benevolence of the people of
Ireland for the most useful purposes.
Mr. S. RICE said this money was intended for the
encouragement of private benevolence; hut instead of
being applied to the purposes for which it was intended
—thut of promoting the education of children of all re-
ligious persuasions, it was entirely under the controul of
the Protestant Hierarchy, for now no school house could
be built without the consent of the Bishop; and the
right to the appointment of a schoolmaster was to be
vealed in the incumbent of the parish : therefore the ob-
ject of the charity was altogether defeated.
Mr. GOUT BURN declared be had never beard any
such complaint as that alluded to being made; and he
had been informed that Roman Catholic children were

edecated at these schools. and that the schools were

generally approved of by Catholics.
Mr. V. FITZHERALD expressed himself in favour of
the grant, as productive of general benefit to all classes of
people in Ireland.
Ihe Resolution was agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN having left the Chair, the Report
of the Resolutions were ordered to be received to-morrow.

LOTTERIES,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER obierved,
that he had already informed the House, there would be
no snore Lotteries after the present year. He bad now
then to propose the last Lawry; and should move that
the Lords ofthe Treasury be empowered to contract for
the sale of 60.000 Lottery Ticket!.
Mr. LEYCESTER objected to the Resolution, and
asked why the country should be subjected to the de-
moralizing measure, even for another year.
Mr. RICA RIX) asked, how many Lotteries there were
likely to be in the course of the year ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, be
believed there would be three.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER next
moved, that towards raising the Supply, the sam of
14,700,000/. be granted by Exchequer Bills.
Agreed to.
THE BUDGET._ _

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gate
notice, that on Wednesday se'nnight he should take the
opportunity of recapitulating the financial arrangements
of the year.