The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-11-02 00:00:00

LOUISE DEMOd'VT.

Some enefifielfei relative to the character of LOWS.
DRMONT haring been published some .weeks ago, in a
►liai•terial Paper (New Times), we beg leave to
point out to our readers the real opinion which the rt..
tremble Clergyman of her on•n Pariah entertain of
her cAracter and conduct.

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I, the under‘igned, Mutter ot'Col ombier.bavlng—bie;
required on the part of Mr. Barry, delegated by her
Majesty the. Queen of England, do declare, that I have
never given a certificate of 4.nrod morals to Mademoiselle
Lowlife Dewoot, of CollOntiner, shove lilorges, and that
the has never applied for ens. I further declare, that
in consegnence of certain information wbicb bas reached
me,* l would not willingly have given such a certificate
to her. In verification of which, I have signed at St.
Sephorin, the I ith of October, IWO.
. (Signed) Maims :it, Paster of Collomhier.
The Judge of the Peace of the circle of rollombier I
Option of Vied, in Switzerland, certifies, that the above
signature of M. liipylau, Pastor of CoUombier, is truly
this. Dives under the seal and signature of the Judge
of the Peace at Collombler, 14:h of October, lOU.
(Signed) DVRAND, Judge of the Peace.
Sealed with the Seal of Office.
The Chancellor of State of the Canton of Vied, etm,'
titles, that the seal and signature on the other side at*
true.
(Si The Chancellor Boum?.
Lausanne, Octolignellls,
, 9, the undersigned, declare, that the certificate of good
morals which I geTe to Mademoiselle Louise Demeet,
of Colionobler, above Merge*, had bent given 114:7
6V ore her departure to enter the *gni= a lee
Mighsees the Primers. of Wales, and absoletely bad a.

dad** AL MeTlas ieetorekt to be heeded
ht. Her.lidieuist soadaet la public with Muhl.-ed. nee
Mita; besaosagletal of gtok talsiatetala &Hai bet yet
tsaidasee at Merger.

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Irelation to any thing except her anterior conduct whilst
she lived in-Collombier.
Romainmotier, Oct. 13, 1820.
(Signed) L. PCACT, Pastor and Deacon, formerly
Pastor Suffragant of Collomlifer
above Morges.
Certified as above by the Judge of the Peace of no-1
maiomotier, sod verified Lv the Chancellor Holier.
1, the undersigned, certify, that 1 have read a Journal,
of Mademoiselle Louise Denant, of Collombier above
&forges, of her Travels to Jerusalem ; a journal which
appeared to me to he in her hand-writing, and which
was lent to me by her mother at Collombier above
Merges, in which journal she pronounced elogiums Gel
her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales, and said that
she was not that which she was reputed to be.
L. Pears, Pastor and Deacon.
Romainmotier, Oct. 13, 1820.
Certified like the foregoing by the Judge of Peace
and the Chancellor. Di MT.

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STATASMAN-OFFICE. Toro •'Clock.

The proceedings of the House of Lords to-thy,
dtrivN additional and affecting interest from the
suillded indisposition of Lord ERIIKINZ. Between
meth! and one o'clock bis Lordship fainted, in
the midst of a most impressive speech ; and the
House adjourned, in consequence, for a quarter
of an hour, and his Lordship retired. When the
House was resumed, with great regret we add, his
Lordship was unable to return,

DISCOVERY SIIIPS.

The following letter has been received this morning
from Aberdeen, dated October 29 :
" Accoants from the Elisabeth, of this port, from
Da►is's Straits, dated Strowness, 26th nit. bring advice'
of her arrival there with the Ellison; the former with
14 fish, and the latter with 15. The Ellison spoke. the
Heels and Drip*, Discovery ships on their return, is
VS. Inn. O. all well; and were informed that those
had wintered in lat. 75. lon. H 5."

The conductors of the process relative to the
QUEEN, are making their arrangements for the ulterior
management of the proceedings, in case the Bill of
Grins apd Penalties passes from the Lords to the Com-
illa*. As the Avroanev-thavenst. and the SOLICITOR-
MIENRRAL, OW Mr. Baocommht, Mr. LIENOI•N, and
Dr. LESIIINR7OIIIII, members of the lower House,
and not disposed to vacate their seats, they ar.- dis-
qualified from appearing as Counsel at the Commons'
liar. They are expected, however, to exert them-
selves on their respective sides, with equal effect, in
the character of Parliamentary Advocates; and se
evidence, we are assured, will be entered into in the
House of Commons, the proceedings cannot fail to
be extended to a considerable length. In support of
the Bill, Mr. °wise, us understand, will act as
leading Counsel, supported by Dr. ADAMS, Mr.
PAESI, and probably some other of the Gentlemen
of the Bar, who are distinguished by their silk.gowns.
Against the Bill, we know, there are already
retained. Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. TINDALL, and Mr.
WILDS, (who have already been employed in the
Hours of Lords), and Mr. B. H. ALDERSON. Mr. At-
tatisox is a younggentleman, highlyrespected for his
talents on the northern Circuit. He was distinguished,
in the late arduous Contest for Westmoreland, as
Counsel during the election for Mr. Baoconsm, and
is well known among the members of the profession
for the legal knowledge and discrimination he dis-
I
plays in the Mar's Basch Repods, which he edites,
in conjunction with his friend, Mr. lisaNawsti..

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Thoth's* hes now arrived for the decision of a qges•
lion, important to the Queers, and to all who hale so
generomily espoused her cause ; httt most important
to those,iitio flew the present proceedings henna
Weir wtrfatij Ti ad who therefore consider them wish
a jealousy which must be felt by every man who knows
sod respects the laws of England. An infraction of
those laws is threatened by the Bill against her Ma.
~asrv; and the attempt, if successful, must destroy
our safety; individual as well us national; and render
ug, wee the subjects of a limited Monarchy, which
eommeads obedience because it ensures protection,
but the vassals of every profligate Minister who may
mime the guidance of the political machine.
Upon this subject so much has been offered upon all
the bearing, of the question, that argument has been
massaged, and the mind him been partially diverted
from the tree state of the case, which resolves itself
Into three simple questions. The first is, naturally,
whether the Wane is guilty ; aye, or no ? If she is
guilty, thee is the piesest form of proceeding jest
sad amsatiestional And thirdly, if the mode of pro-
ceeding Is, in itself, jest and constiatiosal, has the
amused, In the course of that proceeding had those
mew of detseee 'lorded her, which, according to the
established 104 at* so much in fan, of the 64814.
ant, that Ii is am considered the dirty of the Judge
to be his Omega

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mh To the Bill. the Peers of England must decide
each ‘ Me questions in the affirmative; for a ~,,.
Satire, ipon any one of them, will entitle the Quer,
to an acquittal. One of the nsisfortusses brought
upon the country by the rashness and misconduct of
Handers! is the difficulty in which they hare placed
the Parliament; for if the Parliament decide then
questions N the alfirseative, it will run counter to the
almost unanimous voice of the country ; which ha,
pat a direct negative upon every one of these question'.
The people of England say, first that the Qero,
of England is innocent, notwithstanding such et',
donee as that of the Cook at 'f tieste. Next they say
that, whether the Queen is guilty or not, the pro-
ceeding against her is illegal; subversive of the vital
principles of the Constitution ; and unprecedented to
our historical annals, except in the days of !Inset
VIII.; who beheaded two of his wives, divorced tee
others, and who, in short, spared " neither man ink!,
bate, nor woman in his lust.' And th;rilly, they
contend that the Queers has not had those legal mesa;
of defence which us permitted to every man wha i,
tried at the Old Bailey, for any offence in oetrwari.
nal cede. They say. that when one witness el", is
proved to have suborned others, has been seat oust
the country, end been permitted to elude the arm of
Justice ; when another, who was an important wit,
nears on the part of the accused, has not been forth.
coming, from a fear of offending some one here: and
when evidence of a conspiracy by tha fu-famed One-
TIDE. has been offered and rejected ; when all these
things have taken place, in the broad face of day, the
people of Ragland are inclined to;hink, and bare
pretty plainly expressed their thinking, 'hat
the Weer has sot had a legal trial, ens if
i she were guilty, and even if the neede of
proceeding against her were constitutional is
itself. Each of these principal questions has been de-
cided by the people in favor of the QUEEN. A cen-
trary decision will fly in the face of the country ; and
who can say what may not be the consequence? The
Ministerial Editors appear to be in most pitiable state
of agony. and roar out that Revolution is at heed.
They have called out " Wolf," long enough ; though
now they solemnly assure as that the wolf bas come
in good earnest; but will they inform us who
has brought him ? If their modesty should pie-
vent their answering, we will answer for them.
Those who have caused the present alarming crisis,
are the men who set on foot the Milan Commission,
and employed the eight-werkieg, assassin-like Our-
?RDA ; they are those who told the Queen she was .1
an Adulteress. sod at the same time offered her fifty
thousand pounds a-year out of our lobar, to hell
away from Eaglaed, with fall permission ft con
tine her coarse of life abreast ; who laid a nauseous
filthy tale apes the table of the Horse of Commoor,
and then seat some members of that Haw, their
right worthy Friends, to kite the hand of the person
who was the subject of that same nauseous tale. The
persons who performed these, and all the subsequent
refs of this rational Drama, up to its present mess
trophe ; it its they who have brought us to the verge
of a Revolution; and these same Ministerial Editors
will have little difficulty in telling us who thooe per-
sons are; or, perhaps, an early impeachment will
save these the trouble.

Paris papers of the 304 alt. I.are arrived t►ts loom

i ng.
Frew a Vienna article dated 20th ult. it appears that
the Marlene Can AMA 74 heft that Capital fur Trappe on
the 17th. Lewd Staysar was expected to set out next
day; the Emperor 'Orme would be there on the 22d,
and the ling of Ilevinta ahead the same time.
The Spasish Comities= the 16th to the Nth =ft
=espied with busies= entirely of a local nature.
Letters from the frontiers of Italy dated 1511 s alt. state
that intelligence of an intended ugmeetation of the
Euglish fleet in the Mediterraesan has induced a lively
sensation, eipecially in the Neepelitan states.
French ftilkls, Five per cents. 75f. 5c.; Bank action',
1331 E

Letter front India, dated June 22.--Thcre has been
a contplete failure of all the couou crops in laillat list
season only 30,000 bales were tLe utmost of &Mee
'prodOttien. News from Manilla, May 30, atlas dim
a stropg reinfoicement . from Europe was daily el
petted, as the Governor had received communications
from the Patriots in !loads America, threatealag that
plum; and one of Lord COCIMAIIII'd frigates had bees
dispatched for that pavpooe t but soon after she railed
she saptured a vessel with half a million of dollars on
boardjand took her into Yalparako. lied she roatisncti
her voyage, she toast have fallen in with the two ships
which arrived there in May, from Acapala with two
millions of dollars on hoard. As there was nominate?'
twee at Maaills, it was the determination of the 140
a.m.', if be did not receive any assistance from tie
KIN% to surrender it to the English floverasnant. ass(
heethapatithei a vessel Os fkalobay to that elect.
Yesterday the Dukes of York and Clareace visited
the King, at his Mare, in Pail Mall.
Orders have boss ewe at the Palace of Caritas-
lliloaaa for the necessary pepperations to be made fat
' his Majesty's return to Windier to.:ay.
Yesterday a Ceart of Itireetors was held at the Ea*
long, Hamr whim the noder-mentionetl Cassias were
Feet& iota HMI no:simitid Of their respective ship.
via. :--Cagtala Timms Leckie', Margaia Gamin;
Capt. 'Moues Banydai/e. !DON ;--BesgbaY.,__tili
China. Capt. Uwe. allertioel,' bl''
ow, "m"
Bengal and Chins.

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THE QUEEN.

Ig OF LORDI3.—TotI Noixtme.

pores were read at the usual hour, and the Peen
...,, ;hes called over. '1 he defaulters were Lord Mil
lisity'.. , gar IS Waldegrave and Thanet, the Marquess,
,iSseter, and the Duke of St. Albans.
lArd 0143 then rose and addressed the House from
0 gofy. The purport of his Lordship's address
cis. fed/sire that their Lordships' standing order,
„wire to the mode of the voting of the Peers, should
i., rod, al
the order was read accordingly.
holed that on every question, whether • Bill ,
odd be read a second time, each Peer should stand
if is his place uncovered, and say Content or Nut
Weal.
gielleble Lord then said, that in a future stage of
sepopooings, he should submit a motion to the
jos is the subject.
M HOLLAND said a few words respecting the
li• order, and the mode which in his opinion
in
the most convenient for taking the votes.
wows pause followed, when at length several
tirsplied out, "Order of the day! Order of the
iirr sod the Lord Chancellor, apparently much agi-
ended from the Woolsack. sad addressed
itliPaiss follows :--
*ripe—After the long discussion we have en-
*lli igloo the present subject, the question now,
fa orammitimstion is, whether this Bill shall be
Rag a semi time. At present, that is the only goes-
tin wafers. In the ordinary course of proceeding
spot Hills similar to the prevent, I mean Divorce Bills,
theme& is Omit—the Hoses having heard the evidence
es lath sides it becomes the duty of the person who has
;besmear to sit on the Woolsack, to deliver his opinion
*poi the opestiiie, whether the fact of adultery is
Pend: awl if that opinion is in the affirmative, the
Bill Is read a second time, unless some Noble Lord should
sitzertsin a different opinion. In that case the subject
i- debated, and is ultimately decided by your Lordships'
vete,. Your Lordships votes in that case, are to decide
whether the preamble of the Bill has been proved or not.
There are eases, however, where the House has altered
the language of the preamble, but in those cases, that al-
treatise bas always been a mitigating alteration in favour
e: the soused. In proceeding to address your Lord-
etips, in obedience to the duty which has been cut
apes me, I assure you I stand in a situation which
coop& me to pronounce an opinion upon a subject
thiels 1 would rather not approach. I declare to my
God, this consids ration distresses me beyond measure;
(ben his Lo-deltip sArd tears ;) but I am determined
to discharge my rinty.—(Hear, hear.) No man can he-
amity vote for this Bill 'unless' he is perfectly sat's-
hell that an adulteraus intercourse has taken place.—
(Rear, itra,, hese.) I shall now, my Lords, in dis-
clove( the duty I have mentioned, proceed to girt
sly qfition, and the reasons upon which I found my
opision ; first informing your Lordships, that my
a=nion is not what is called a summing np, u
ordinary c ises in the other Courts ; for we
or let* oil sisslgas.erasi Joroess-..4Chsass.)..lLach
bai been said, my Lords, respecting at% proceeding,
which has been termed a Bill of Pains and Penalties,
and which it bas been said ought not to be resorted
b mikes the gantry is in imminent danger. It is not
sesismary ror ma to go far back into the history et;
this couatry, to 'hew that this measure is perfectly'
constitutional. I need not go farther back than tho
period of the Revolution, to skew that Bills of Pause
and Penalties have often been passed without the ex-
istence of any state necessity; and in fact, it has been
always consitiered a proceeding more favourable to
the accused than that of impeachment. His Lordship
said it was but right, that every dilkulty should go
to the benefit of the it °timid. He coneeived that the
Queen so mined ue loss by not allowing her a list of
sitsesses, for is what manner could they so effectually
give her that list as by producing the witnesses at
the Bar, and then givioe whatever time was required
to bring evidence fur the defence. Their Lordships
were also bound to attend to that great principle of
British Jostire-s-he meant, that they never were to
take L. cessation as a pre -f of guilt, and that they should
always consider the accused innocent, until the guilt
is ftb established. It appeared that there was mach
greater facility in obtaining evidence for the Bill than
E r the defence, and that was the circumstance that
should go to the benefit of the accused. The ground
on which he had twined his opinions all through the
etriniry were these:—doeit the evidence that has been
prodused in sttprort onto. Bill, coupled with the nega-
tire evidence of the witnesses that might have been pro-
ducat sun the part of the defence, support the allega-
tion of the adultcr,,us intercourse? Tbe voice of the
Noble Lord then began to vaulter; and, with teas
in his eyes, 4.. said, that if their Lordships viewed all
the circumstances of the case proved by plata'
above aid suspicion, that it was his opinion, a* opt-1
nion be *wealth the most extreme reluctance, but
as it was his duty, nothing could prevent him from
discharging it, that the only inference that could pos-
sibly be drawn was, that the edePerous iateretrwee
bad Seen committed. The Noble Lord then proceoZod
t., comment on the evidence. lie said, that when an its-
skid u al sn onto a fact, wheaother persuas were pnisent.
110,1 tLute persons are sot predated who might eon-
tradii i CIL` fact, there was no reason to suppose, that
be swore falsely. On the coutrary, he was entitled te
the grate: credit—by that passive admission of the
truth of his evidence. lie said, be would admit, that
the et idence of Majorchi aid Dement might he thrown
out of the case, although he did tot mean to say. that
many of the facts sworn to by them were sot true. ,
But atlinittiug that their testinsoay were throws out
of the c"se,t here was still gotta enough to proribs facts. 1
He then referred their Lordships to the seems on board
the poi*. re. He !said, that no one Gould doubt the
issue, when it was admitted by the Counsel be the
Queen, that Bergs ma and :or lisjosty slept seder the
name lest, for tire weeks together. He nest spoke of.
the contradictory evidence of Lieutenant Flynn, NM
the reirctanse. with which both he and Mr. &woe.
as....li.aril that fact. clearly puma she isopertsese
which. In their 'whim eras to be ettashed to the tai
The Noble Lied thee ediettelehed *lit Leldgfir OD
keils is dolt seeorlepties the th=tifitcr tfli•
in veriest places. the nun Mil en*

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