The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-19 00:00:00

NORTII ERN COACIIF.S.

FROM TDB YARDS MERCURY, SEPT. 9.—On Monday
evening, about seven o'clock, an affray took place in
the principal streets in this town, between a number
of the military and the inhabitants, which at one
period threatened the most serious consequences.
This fracas, as far as we have been able to learn, ori-
ginated in a private, belonging to the 6th regiment
of Foot, (which had just arrived from lialifax)seising
an apple from a fruit-stall, which invasion of private
property being resented by the owner, a quarrel ea-
sued, in the progress of which the military and the
people took different sides. We regret to have to add,
that in many instances the soldiers made use of their
side-arms, and that several persons who took nu part
the affray were wounded, but none of them seriously.
The alarm which was occasioned is not to be described.
The shops in that part of the town where it took
place, were imnsediately closed, and great apprehen-
sions were at one period entertained for the resell.
Fortunately, however, the arrival of a guard front the
barracks, and the active interference of the officers,
aided by the exertions of our Chief Magistrate, pre-
vented any further mischief. We underatand that no
part of the military were concerned in these outrages,
eseept the detachment which had arrived from Hag-
fax. nasal of whom were in a state of lassaisaAhma.
Among the persons wounded is Mr. Williams, toper-
visor of the cloth-searchers; he received a slight cat
in the shoulder from a sword, but in consideration of
the good character and long services of the serjetent
by whom the wound was indicted, both Mr. Williams
and another person who suffered from his violence, de-
clined commencing any prosecution against hint.
We rave a general allusion last week to certais
charges brought against the SlSth regiment, fot
acts of serious outrage. The testimony of the sufi
ferers, and other witnesses, was taken on oath, of
which we have full notes ; but In consequence of that
ease not being gone into on the part of those
cated, we think it unfair to publish an ex-parte state..l
ment. Copies of the examination were transmitted' to;
the Secretary at War ; and the Mayor hal received i
letter from Lord Palmerston, stating that his Lordship.
was then in correspondence with his !Ilya' Highness'
the Commander-in-Ciiief on the subject. Another
copy was also forwarded to lien. Sir John Byng, the
commander of the district ; and on Monday last Major-,
General Sir James Lyon arrived in this city, to in-
quire into the facts personally. Sir James and ('ol.
Yergusson were with the Magistrates on Tuesday a;...P
Wednesday, but the then examinations were private.
There is no doubt but that a Court of Inquiry will
be instituted into the proceedings; indeed the gross
nature of the charges render such an inquiry neces-
sary, not only as it respects the safety of the public,
but as it respects also the character of the regiment
itself. We hope the result will be such as to fully
entitle the regiment to that proud name which it has
obtained in " many a well-fought day," as well as In
the less active duties of the garrison.—(Chester
aide.)
An official return to an order of the House of Com-
mons states, the net amount of the revenues of Brent
Britain, from the sth of April, IS2O, to the sth of
July, 1920, at 13,288,838/. 10s. 61d. ; ditto, of Ire-
land, for same period, as paid into the Exchequer
there, at 950,6251. lid.; the amount of the ineeme
on the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom, for
-ame period, at 12,118,947/. lOs. Id. ; ditto, charge
thereon for ditto, 13,779,7831. 9s. 94d. Total dell-
ciency of the Consolidated Fund on the sth of July,
1820, 9.273.7061. Is. lid. which was made good by
the making out of Exchequer Bills to that amount.
Five houses and five cottages were destroyed by
fire, in the afternoon of Monday last, at Magritte*,
near Exeter, and the progress of the flames was only
stopped by removing the roof of a house which the'
fire had not reached, or in all probability nearly the
whole of the village would have been burnt down.
EXTRAORDINARY BELL RIN6INO.-41, few days ago
a select band of St. Martin's Youths, Birmingham',
performed a great Herculean task on their Ring of
twelve Bells, at St. Martin's Hotbic Tower. is a
on that most intricate method, New Tre4le 11•6411-
estor, comprising 7,200 harmonious changes, •whlith
was nobly brought round in five hours and eight
misuses. The Terme Bell Is 36 ewt net hell metal,
in the bold key of D. lat. This is the groom Oro.
pieties upon twelye Belle ea reeitral.—N. B. Mother
generation may nee up to eclipse thisseremageo,
bat the payout io ail probability it ro re-
main a nosetiiog died and aaatattbed.

....
Casll4e. Penrith. and Whitrhavest. Post Conch. goes with
four Horses sod a Guard ail the way. Pusses through
!!rough Appleby. firetalwidgr. Richmond. Catteriek. Ro-
rmighlwittge, Wetherhy, Aberford, Doneaster. and Until-
-4 am (the nenre4t way by IS miles). sets out every morning,
aid powfr.rnis the journey with the greatest facility. Passen-
g -Fs (lett Ines! on the road. by business or pleasure. hare the
advantage of their seats being secured in the next.

CARRIERS,
To Twit-10.11111m, Rrentford, and Isieworth, every Mon-
day. Wednrstlay, Friday, and Saturday.
EAMES and Co., Proprietors.
Paretic and Parka fns are safely and expeditiously con-
veyed fru:n this lam to every City, Town, Village, and
Coantry Seat in the Ibllowing Comities. via. :—Berks, Beek&
(*emeriti. Devon, Dorset. Hants. Hereford, Oloomrster,
Kent. Oxford, Somerset. Barmy, Memel, WIN, Worcester,
South Wales, all ports of*, We of Wight, hinny, 01141111-
sry, and nil parts of Erases : aad to all Parts of tbe North
• • Take petite, that no package, containing eats, elthea,
watches, plate. rash, or Bank notes, however small the
value, will be *mooniest for. if bet or demise nor say
other parcel or passenger's logy'', of mere a. swim,
oslets apecHled as awl dna Miami at Vat 0111“ sad
1414 for aererdinely
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would not allow of any allusion to whet *as taking
place elsewhere, yet as those forms had beet some-
what relaxed dodo( the last discussion on this so&
what bad recently been doing In the Hoes. of Lords.
Jett, he might perhaps be permitted briefly to advert to
This day the Mouse of Commons' assembled, in With all proper respect then for the House of Lords, be'
pursuance of adjournment. The public anxiety was mast say that he did not think the House of t: a:ode
intense all day, in consequence of a report baling owed ttiem• any deference, when they found the House
appeared in one of the papers this monist, that a of Lords acting id express contradiction to themselves
motion was to be asadely Mr. Wilberforce, respeetiag (the Howe of l'ommons). The House of Lords were
the proceslings in the house of Lords. proceeding with an loquiry which the House of Coto-
The CMANCOLLOS of the EXCIIiQUER rose for the mons bad rejected. The House of Lords had examined
purpose of moving that a Committee be appointed for the cements of the Green Bag. which lay in scorn en.
the purpose of searching their Lordships' journals, opened on the Table of the House of Commons. And
sere the Heine of Cointuons to look into the Journals
and report unto the House thereon. of the House of Lords, in order to see how they—the
- On the motion being secoadel/41. Representatives of the People of England—were to eon-
Mr.' fierjaant Oresiow, in a lose tone of voice, and elect themselves?—For his own part, he was astonished
amidst a oessiderable noise, made a few observations,
how any man of common sense could suppose that the
it.e exactindeacy of which we were enabk to collect. Bill of Pains and Penalties against her Majesty coed
be fairly and impartially dealt with in the House of
Al well is we could understand the lioaodrank and
ntha, he appeared to be espatliolig . Noble Lords were not worse, bat they were net
Learned Gesole
or' rilitter Mae commits men. fie presumed that they were
the greet importaoto of the question at preselot ag tat- mart to the influences and fiseknge whic operated on
ing is the other !ruse of Parliament, and recommend- all amen beings. With the favour of their Monarch
ing, in the event of the Bill's being sent down to the on the one side, and the Royal neglect on the other, it
House of Commons, that with a view to the honour seemed to him by no means difficult to anticipate how
they wod conduct themselves. What, ndeed, had
of the House, and ti-, more complete prosecution of
, Appeared uiln the divisions which bad lately i
taken place
the jnqulry, some e. - Aare should be introduced by in the House of Lords? Was it not—
which the House might be enabled to examine wit- The Sea t KEPI interposed, and called the Honourable
nesses on oath. He trusted that the Executive Go- Gentleman to order. Some allusion, in such a case As
vernment would take the subject into their serious ,-ter present, might, perhaps, be allowable, to what
consideration'. might have occurred in the other House of Parliament ;
Mr. Carieve observed, that within the few last days but he put it to the good sense of the Hon. Gentle-
& report had been in circulation that an attempt was man, whether to enter into such details, as to the di-
to be made by those individuals whom he considered visions which had taken place there, was not an in-
the prosecutors in the case of her Majesty, to induce fringenient, nut merely of the form, but of the soh-
the House of Commons to renounce, in that case, the stance of the rules of the House of Commons?
authority which they possessed, and which they al- Mr. Hoonocsa disclaimed any wish to violate the
ways had possessed and exercised, of examining wit- rules of Parliament. Ile had thought himself lusti-
ness,' ataheir Bar. He did not know if the observe- lied in making the allusions which he had done ou
dons which had just fallen from the Honourable and the present occasion.
Learned Gentleman had been suggested- to him by lir. C.o.ceatv conceived, that if the Hon. Gentle-
those individuals—(Mr. Serjeant Onslow—" No ; upon man confined himself to a statement of the divisions
my honanr.")--If any such proposition as that to he would be in order, as the House of Commons, hay-
which he had alluded should be made, and should be ing access to the Journals of the House of Lords, had
adopted, be should consider that, the other House of a right to be informed on that subject.
Parliament and his Maliesty having in his opinion alrea- Mr. Hominess proceeded. He had considered hint-
dy berm degraded by what had taken place, the House self justified in alluding to that which was likely to hap-
of Commons would itself be sunk into the lowest state pen, but to that which had actually happened, in n hat
of degradation. The adoption of any such proposi- was
the caChalled a Court of Justice. Hthe e defe
artrredicu la, however,
to ir, pr state-
lion would operate in favour of Parliamentary Reform
enter. This
with a witness ! If that House were to consent to meet into which he had !wen about to
was, nevertheless, his firm impression—that as there was
forego the privilege which it had enjoyed and exec- little chance of impartiality on the subject in the House
cued ever since it was a House, of examining evi- of lairds, it was the duty of every Member of the House
&nor at its own Bar, in cases in which evidence had of Commons to endeavour to arrest the Bill in question
bees previously heard elsewhere, whether in the other is li,nine. On those grounds he had seconded the tiro-
Howse of Parliament, or in any of the Courts below, tion of a Noble Lord on the 21st ult., to address, his Ma-
the jesty to prorogue Parliament. Oa those grounds he wag
4ilL-Miler-.07 shairrit ':YilicellY be the object Pf --, ion anxious to-efneet the continuance of the proceed-
propane' • any sac measure) to make greater speed Ines. It was impossible that those proceedings coal be
in the proceeding in question, be must say, that it pe oinctive of any beneficial consequences either to his .
would become instantly, universally, and irrecoverably, Majesty or to the nation. As to the nation, the opinion
an object of just and general contempt., of the people at large was most decidedly against the
Mr. Serjeant Osist ec
ow, in explanation, said, that he Prredi"P- libaist:en said, that this was niece!y a
tu'r:andeire i r.:4ll.lliiing: the iterflarei , andt,e exciteduia rbyfretihionsge din'itioo
had been misapprehended. He perfectly, 'greed with
the Honourable tleptieuntre-that *We 'fbe. House to n,...... , fur ills :
la) Nhiis ior els part, he must) say, that if it was out
forrp Rte privilkepf examining *ditties at the Bar, the legithliate public-opinion which had been expr-ssed
in sitels.a:case di that in qiiesttop,At, weeid degrade on the sithject, be knew not how that opinion could be
'itself fur ever. He declared ono; his hosobr that he collected-. et was decisive; it was not superficial; it per-
ked never had any communication with his Majesty's waded the-couhtry from one end to the other. It arose
Meister', or with any other person, on the subject of
. propasition whickiie had vectored to suggest to
Howse, and 'which proposition, so far from being feelings a lovie.of junice, from
.a h.atred. of oppresfion,
_from
tionandw„ilicilichhiatdwaal ws
at
le 'till duty
ttivn gauni; it Viettresßritisli
interest of every
Government to cherish, rather than to destroy.—(Hear.)
y abandonment oldie privileges of the House, as to —Nor did it appear that the King could be benefitted by
ke examination of witnesses, was to enable the House the measure. they had been told that the Bill was not
to examine witnesses on oath.
Mr. Renele, in the present stage of the proceed-
protested against the extension of the jurisdiction not Pe"'
Of the House of Commons. It would be to him a sub- ,
t of the most solemn regret to see the power of ex- for the, relief of his Majeaty, and that it was probable
that the only part of it which had that complexion would
What, then, could.possibly be the object
.of
i the promoters of the measure: What would they gain
if it should lie proved that one of the parties was a etrum-
; pet, and the other a name which lie would not meo-
*mining witnesses on oath assumed by that House.— 1 non in that House—(Hear, hear, hear!)—Even if the
Nothing could be more dangerous to the liberty of the i Bill slionlibpass (which he could scarcely think possible,)
subject than to invest that House with env such in- would the Noble Lord, or would the Right Houourable
Gentleman reflect on the probable• event ? Did they
quisitorial authority. If such a proposition should
think that, with all their army, they could carry such
actually he made, he did hope that the Gonour- 4 Bill into execution I He would advise them' to go
able and Learned Member would, on consideration, among the lower orders, and observe what their feelings
vote against its reception, on the ground of its tyran- were on the subject. A disposition had been expressed
nical and dangerous character. to abandon one part of the Rill. If one part might be
Mr. Hositoesa said, he washd not be deterred by the abandoned, why not the remainder ? If the Queen were
reflection that the subject might have fallen into abler not to be divorced, why was she to he degraded?
hands, from saying a few words upon it. When he No truth could, however, be more certain than this—
considered the fresh and increasing difficulties in which that the Bill tended to degrade, not the (Peen, but the
the House and the country were involved, be certainly Icing, the Parliament, and flue country. In God's name,
had looked round with a hope that some Honourable therefore, he implored the House, if possible, to put a
Gentleman of more importance than himself, would stop to it. %Chat had already come out in the examine-
have risen to endeavour to stop is lintine the proposi- Gong which had taken place in the other House f Any
lion made by the Right liononrahle the Chancellor of thing that redounded to the honour of the nation ? Far
the Excise r, namely, to inquire what the other House from it. Every thing that tended to degrade us. Our
of Parliament bad done with reference to a proceeding, Ministers, our Ambassadors, our Lawyers, were rein-
-6f which that House of Parliament (the House of Coin- liked in the light of spies, and eaves-droppers, and sit-
:mons) bad expressed its derided disapprobation, when honors of perjury ; and, to complete the picture, the
it designated it as a proceeding derogatory to the Crown, House of Peers—those venerable pillars of the State— -
and injurious to the best interests of the Raipire. It were publicly occupied in.prying into feed clothes bars
was evident by what motion the present one was to he and chamber utensils—(a laugh.)—Was that the way in
defiented op. • The Rijtlit Honourable Gentleman, as which the descendants of so many noble and illustrious
WOO as the Report of the proposed Committee shonid persons ought to he employed? And being thus em-
arrive, weeld no doubt lirintedtately move an adjourn. pluyed, were the House of Commons, the Representa-
meat. It appeared to hint (Mr. Hobliouse)that although tires of the nation, to examine, for their guidance, the
the King might, in his opinion, very advantageously Journals of that House, with reference to a proceeding
to the country prorogue Parliament, yet, if Parliament which the nation that they professed to represent nna-
were to be made to adjourn from day to day at the will nimoualy condemned ? It might be said by some that it
a Misisters, to the great inconvenience of the Members, would he hard on Inn Majesty, if, after the charge had been
.end he no object whatever of pabilc good, those who full, made, she shoold sot Wallowed to enter on her de-
fine on his side of the House had better retire, and leave fence. lie did not speak for the King or for the Queen, but
all the odium of the proceedings in progress mad in con• for the nation, a ben hocalledun the House to stop the pro.
temipiation, on the shoulders of the Honourable Gentle- ceetling. At the muse tie he did not think that the
Oen opposite. He particalarlarly objected to the wo- cessation of the procaodieg would be at all hard upon
then made by the Right Honourable Gentleman to search the Queen. It certainly was not extraordinary that the
the Lords' Journals, because the adoption of it would Honourable and Learned Counsel far ber Majesty should
be to record the opinion of the House of Comment, that press for the costineance of an inquiry, which he knew
what the 1f.... of Lords were doing was correct, and must retuned to her Majesty's honour, But the HOO.e
be the advantage of the coaster. Ms solemn opinion_ —who must he sesseibk that 'Dough hail been done to
was. that se foe we the late preasedlor Of the muse shew that there was nothing atrium her Majesty. and
of Leeds frees being advantageous tote country, that that the evidence an daemons oa which she— was
the, were fretted with the most ',nations ee.ssmeows charged, were not only not trustworthy, bet wage such
diocese:6d tet the honour. Ned an• as bad never before been submitted to men of sew*. and
jiv...:esTeBlll::istereses of the motion. Ile meek" there- honesty—the Hesse west feel that for her .ry
hap;
Ikea. hp ao arias einem ee any whkh justification nothing were was nooessary. . eli:e
ereehi rree implp the approbation the nem, of Lord (whose
sea:rims as that ofehjeet- * Ob. heel
e•Issolls of Ibe peserediers of the Meet el loafs. satisfactory. bbe (Mr.. leibillefti had iyt
Airige• all be wee, die Woe of the Mese pressed it) bad hedges* the other nesse s(' Parliament

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Mk dot As bripi et tbe NOM pressed it) Mil Mira' tiff motor 111•Pliw ••• •

wand with troops. If the Hill Ishmael come to that
rouse, they must hedge themselves round with troops.
was considered to 1w the last degradation of a Roman
'miste to carry on their deliberations under military
jontection. To that degradation, however, he had no
••.oillst that the British House of Commons must submit.
hat could exceed the disgrace attendant on those who
:gist to be the representatives of the people, but who
were thus compelled publicly to acknowledge that their
•ositiments were not those of the people. Under such
cacurestanees, be ebnsidered that the best course would
be that recently thonb unsuccessfully recommended by
Noble Lord (Lord F. Osborne), namely, to Address
Majesty to prorogue Parliament, and thereby get rid
of the proceeding altogether. There was another ques-
tion to he considered. Who was to pay for the expence,
(4 the proceeding? He did not suppose it would come
tram the pockets of the Right Honourable Gentleman or
the Noble Lord opposite, The people of England then
were to pay for it. The people of England'. Did they
wish for the proceeding ? By no means. They declared
that it was most dlooracefurand infamous., and that they
s ishell it might be humoliatele stopped. Another rea-
son just struck him against the continuance of the Bill.
It seemed that the House of lards were acting as .Ittry.l
Judges, and even as Prosecutors, for the Attorney• G-
eneral said that he appeared there by order of their Lord. I
ships. IVbat justice could be expected from such a
monstrous tribunal ? What remained then fur the House
of Commons to do, but to put all end to the measure
In doing so, they would retract nothing, fur thev hid
already pronounced its condemnation. They would not
therefore he disgraced. The Noble Lord opposite, in-
deed, might be disgraced ; hut as lie had no reverence
for the Noble Lord, that consideration would not it all
effect him.—(A laugh.)—.lll that the I louse of Commons
had to do, was to go hack to their original opinion,
e. hich was, the proceeding could not he productive only
of disgrace and disaster. The Noble Lord had trade a
lair trial of what the investigation was likely to produce.
maul as it had completely failed, he might as well give it
up. He knew that he should hear of the disgrace of
t. ring intimidated into any course of conduct. For his
). girt, he could see no disgrace in being intimidated from
contint.ance in error. He could see nil disgrace ies
adopting a new line of conduct, if that whirl. had bees
hitherto pursued was proved to be incorrect. Under
there circumstances, since no other flowing-able Iletitle-
mvmean would ma
to time Right Hunourahle lietitleinan•s utes-
t o.s, that an humble Address be presented to his Majesty
be: Bing him forthwith to prorogue P.irli *inept.
r. lir.ryFT seconded the Ansenilmeits.
Wier a I sake, the tieetere put the question. when
Mir R. Witsoe rose. Le was surprkrd that the Gentle-
man on the other side of the Muse hail nut thought proper
t make any observations on the sahjeet. Tory might cell
ccch conduct dignified; to him it appeared quite the
lie knew there was no hope that his lion. Friend's Amend-
rut would be carried, but he would endorsee the oprorli-
tot) now afforded him of declaring. that is the Rill in tilit•F•
Sh.)U I come clown to the Huns, of I o.,:in.ins these aas
11" 013,1111.1 e, no isupe.liment, which the ais or the persiot e-
sa we f Irian r.ould throw in its way w!iielo he would is.st en-
i'..asenir to raise. This he would do. not inerelj on aceinnit
tot the abominable and odious character of the Rill. but be-
cause he now considered himself a competent judge I,( the
merits of the case. having attended eserj *lay in the House
of Lords, and heard the deposition: of all the witnesses.
He had closely *observed the runtime: of the proceedisiz la
ttast *Feist assembly, and hr had uo hesitation in deekring
his conviction. that the whole proceeding originated in a
fo.sl and infamous eonspiraej . It was his defy boldly to speak
Ih' truth on the subject. and not to allow the coantry to be
i iiuri dhy any prejudicial courtesy. The conspiracy was
*Ale which, in his opinion, originated nut at Milan bat al
ltanoser. Could that be doubted when it was foiled
hat Ompteda, after having execute:l the lustrectiou
a hich he had received. to pick locks, to forge keys. sad to
steal letters. and after having. likes coward. refused to tight.
Ibis gallant officer who challenged him. when he returned to
Ilaaoser was cosered with honours, and reinstated is the
ea-sk, and paid the arrears which he hind surfeited hi mese-
quence of his conduct while Bonaparte ask in that country.
To the honour of the lianoveriau peopic, however, they
shunned him re they would a pest. What could be said of
t .8 conduct of. tile Minister at Stutgard, who tiulslyd the
r des of huspltalit s. and a bo.at the moment of the departure
tot the Princess of %ales from his house rushed into her
sekrtment, peeped into tier bed-room. negivisted with her
caamber-mald, and descended to other *dinner meatus of
examinations 1 What could be said of the Milan ei,minis-
sic D. that receptacle for discarded servants rod traitors ? In
isre.ot of the real cheracter of the witaesstot ho had been ad-
dend against Inc Majesty, hr would read a letter from NU
Cudfrev, the gentleman at whose house in Hertfordshire,
er.oai bad been residing by the name of Milani. It was
sated in evidence at the bar of the House of Lords, that
sacchi received seventy Napoleons a year while in the ser-
vice of the Princess of Wales. When Ssechi was asked
where he had been in England, he ease cred that be had bees
to tie country on account of his health. Thatanswer having
appeared to him (stir R. W.) to be equivocal, he had
written to Mr. Godfrey. to know in shot state and on
what terms Naftili had resided with him, and had re-
c.-Ived an answer which he would read to the /louse.
'1 he Honourable timtleinan here r..ad the letter, which
s'a'ed, that when Mona. Milani had resided with Mr.
Godfrey he had his own 'tenant, and pail eve pounds a
c.gil for his board and lodging. Ro here ens a man, who
hat been receiving only 70 Napoleons a year while in the
I rineess of Wales' service, sod who ass, nevertheless. sud-
denly enabled to pay above WO. a year for board and budg-
ies alone ! Was that a proof of !colourable proceeding?
Tame there was the master of a vessel, who revoked, as re.
eomeessalon lee his trouble, at the rate of 11.000 dollars a
year ! It lied been said. In that Meese, ley • Might 'lousier-
able Gentleman, that either the King silk laetrased, or the:
Sneen insulted. Ile (Sir Robert IVilatin) would soy both.
The Queen had been insulted by the scandalous and engem
vecianis• introduction Into the charges against her Majesty
of the most obscene ineidenb, which had no connexion with
the ease. The King hail been betrayed. for it was imposele
ble that his Majesty could have been aware of the nature
It-:Jibe sources of the evidence which was to be adduced
oa the occasion. Ile had stated his opinion frankly and
openly. lie was, and he alwsya had been a decided enemy
t t those proceedings. because he thought them Inimical to
t' .• interests of the coutitry • and because he recollected her
Majesty'. misfortunes. Ile could nut forget the former
occasion when her life and character were attacked : and
ha ring heard the evidence on the present occasion, he should
bit the basest man in the world if he did not do what he could
M preserve her Atom perjured witnesses and a partial Wi-
lton!. If he had a thousand lives, he could sscritice them
' el, rather than allow injustice to triumph at her Majesty •s
expense.
Dr. PHILLIMOIiI bad long ago eiade up his mind not
to say a single word on the merits of the subject until
tie Bill should cutlet regularly before the House.—
What he now rose for. therefore, was, merely to make
•* a rear collateral and explanatory observations. The
, dallasit General, and the Hon. tientlemau who pi.,
• understanding

ceded him. bad violated the diatinet
which existed on the subject, by entering into an cs-
• ' pirift statement upon it.—(Hear. bear')—Whenever
.."111t;11111'ihonld edme ditch to Mit House, he would
4i opinion ni•ittitt,..atid entre into the tlisrnaaioa
of its paltry. be Aral cop► Wt that justice ulna'

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. Mr. Pitfalls!
bpd forme yelp
anted by Joll his
the lIHI
the Haase of Lord the Sovereigns era
graded. He hail heard the Prime Minister state it,
the other House of Parliament, that if it were arlsheat
lay .religittus persons the divorce. clause in. tine Bill
would be abandoned. That would be to degrade both
the parties. It would be to state, that although her
Majesty's comfort had been too Infamous to juatify
her contissisowe in that rank, it had not been too in-
famous to Justify bet remaining the wife of the King,
of England.—(Hear !)---The 11,11. and' lehroesi Gent.
who had just aatdown,liati said, that hia ciallaio Friend's
state:swot was an r r pl;le one, and hail been loudly
cheered for that declaration by the I:enamels opposite.
An r.r-larte statement ! Why the whole ease was
parte. Was it ever known in the moat arbitrary tri-
bunal-I%as it ever litlitWt. in the Star Chamber—was
it Ever known, ev•ept when far idsiotte presided at the
trial at it hit Is Charles lost his Eh., that. after the state-
snetit of ilie proseentor, atter the production of the
evidence ill StlppArt of the diarges, after the manning '
np of that evidence, the whole was stopped ttlii.rt, and I
left, tt it Mott th.• possibility or rotitr:tilictioi. to make 11
an undue imi:resslosi on the public mine'? The beastly
evidence which the AttornevAleneral to his own din-j
grace—(hear, bear. hear')---hr sail it deliberately C,
the beastly evidence which the Att.,rnev-Iltmer tl, to ,
his own disorace, hail produre.l. was tea.. disgusting.
That lien. and Learne.l Gentiensatt hail made gross
charges in hia opening apeerb, w Writ he had nut subse.
qUelltly attempted to establish by- evis:ence. To bis
(nage see—to the disgrare of his etop! yore (whoever
they toight b.), the 11, n•sio-.tile and I.ei:riseal
man had indulged it: •uels •ta:esoents insinuations
that he (11r. Is.) cont.( hardly believe his tars as he
listened to them. All, huts et er, was now one. The
poison hail effected its toiachel Trento had done
its wow." What they timid prove, they had,
proved ; what evidence they had to bring forward,
they bail brern„rht forward. (In that erideace he, fns}
one, was perfectly ready to express his rontletion--4/1
conviet!on that increased the a ore, the nosh. be row+
sidereal the stilijeet, although he knew the Meal odds,
which were agoinat him in that House. W lien Minis.
ter. commenced their operations—when !het arrayed
all their striatgth—when they *eat out aSkehil Cass
tro:isi.oi of laa-Fers to lerret out all the bet!.Mijitell
had been doing for -ix years (anal this was; a partite.
hat injnstice, since the condom of only three years had
been itiqwachetl), he did not believe it possible hat
the some miatasiolttet would have been 'seamed against
her Majesty ; he did not believe it possible that Item
of the commotiest understanding could hare kot into
a serape as his Ilajesty'a aainisiera had got into. The
fearless manner, however. in which that heroic woman,
the queen. Uri come to this country, and the way in
whieh she had treated all the advances that hail been
made to her, ronv.,iteed him of the isEpriislenee of de.
riding hastily tut the subject. Ile 11.,11 known protons
racemed for crime, a-patriot to the last teissaient of their
lives that they were isoitseent (alshough their ;ittilt
hat! bsen imuntrovertibly established), to save their
fans's:ies from shame: but he bad never knnten a guilty
isoliviolual seek a trial if he could avoid it. Bat ins
always kept that fart steadily in his initial, lie was
convinced that a more foul and all:main:able conspiracy
teeter existed than that from the effects of whieii I:er
31svie,ty attilering. Feeling this—ohaerrio; that
the tiresent was the strongest into:ince within his me-
mos) in tt la;c1, a singly Oasis, composed of the judges
in the ease, were in •t: reel oppositSon to all the other
classes of the I ommitnity----knonine, that both the
army and nary c•stiritrred in opinion with the great
majority of the people---wstre that, in rontesisience of
the proem which had unfortunately been pursued of
maintaining a standing arose, that .ortny was the mas-
ter of the State—he conceived that :Ise present aas
the t perilous enterprise in which a tiorermitent
had ,ever eallsarhei. Ile knew it was irregular to al-
lude to the other Ilists4/. of Parliament, ass HIIONI. of
Parliametit hat• it; this ease it was a Court of ,!astir..,
ant! as sorb Ise should continent upon it as freely as he
would upon the Court of King's Bends, or the Court
of common Pleas. Ile t •ay, therefore, with all
deference to Pt'er.;. that it appeared to
bins, f • the experience both of our oWil and of
past tins, s, that HO Csotrt of .1 oilicature eon hi pk/h•
Bible be to had. .Itiverting to past tiniest, Co.:-
Honourable tientleman stated Instances in which the
House of Peers hail pronoune:al juslo silents, as 11 logs
and Tories h..ppetieti alternately to !se its poasessiou
of potter. With reference to the present occasion, he
believed it was the !Intl time in which cheers had ever
been heard from the Judges ia a Court of Justice. It
was evident Wan impartial auditor that all was easily
believed on one •ille of the lineation, and nothing on
the other. The Counsel for the accused party had
been hrow-beaten.—(.l loud laugh.) It was tree,
that the spirit of the t'ainneel had resisted the attempt
to Mow-teat Um, but it was not leas true that the
atte.opt haul been uncle. Questions proposseil he souse
31:01shers of the Court had b:rti rejected as Illegal.
Ureat inexporietietl had beets manifested by other
Members. tk hal -seen what was the effect of having
gOtt Judges. He haul vet to see. it the Bill ahemtld
e 1111 l eto the Hun-e of Commons, what waitlsi he the
effect of 61111. .1 Hight Ill:moor:I Me Friend of his had
utter said, that the House of Commons bad never
entered into env inquiry, in the progress of which it
had not diaeraced himself. What the result of Ilse
pending inqtairy would be, it was impossible exactly to
for..see Ist he wits sure, that if the House knew their
real ititereata and the interests of the country, they
would adopt the proposed Amendment, and get rid
of the business altogether. .With this firm conviction
he should assutedly rote (Or the Amendment. •
Lord Castlereagh and the AtterneyMeneral tom'
near:y at the same time, hut bis Lordship immediately
sat down.
The Arroaxxv-ticatast. said he could not hat es-
press his surprise at the eourse taken by Ilonaoraitle
lientlemen opposite. to "

eutlesuro oppertite, .e wa. barpristeill sae
limairbo intsbt !wrestler be called on to nit jot idflg-
jempi on the whole Insere•liag, wisikt the dean Wis vet
pooling, coven down give opinions Qii the sash l'in•
t~ne+taresaigatiuu, and knot only do that, hitt eoilOitronr,
lifetkotensettla Of *WA AseWiteee. to ialastse the
Ute N1.,..H.0.4he sore would! Oat '

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which ,lidlre fpm
Bennet), amnireteseil
`sem:tanner IL whidu '
the case, aoAtirruJececi
' only say, that he should coo-1
if eke approbotims—of.tim.
(lent, bestotEed on his conduct in the'
*slink *trite of the pieeredihg. (Hear, hear ! from the'
Alinisteriel Bench.)
Mt. Hume said, it was not his intention to trouble
the Holme at length, but feeling strongly on the ques-
tion, he hoped he might he allowed to make one or
two observations--An Honourable and Learned Gen-
tleman (Doctor Phillie ore) thought fit to complain of
th ioneltirt of the Gallant °three (Sir B. Wilson),
Ii I/ ringing the subject before the House ; but was
Shot the snteject before the country? Before the Ho-
*Hirable Gentleman talked of an ez parte rase, he
should have reflected that upon et parte evidence Mi-
nisters hat all Clung proceeded against the Queen ;
on ex parte evidence they degraded her Majesty; they
assailed her constitntional rights by erasing her name
from the Liturgy they refu-ed her a vessel to return
to this country ; they refused her a house to put her
head Tutu when she arrived. Such was the conduct
of Minister. towards this injured and oppressed
Queen. lie could net therefore help saying, that the
observations of the Honourable and Learned Gentle-
man, to say the least of them, iie:e uncalled for, sod
to a great extent they were partial. He had that
eight takes' the part of the strong against the weak—
of the accuser against the accused. Ile (31r. li.)
concurred entirely in the opiniots of his Gallant Friend
j(Sir N. %Wilson); he believed in his conscience that
the whole proceeding originated in a base and foul
I conspiracy. He rose, tome% et-, to state that he could
ant support the Amendment of his Honourable Friend,
because lie con-idered that it tumid be great injustice,
to bar Majesty to stop the trial now. The Honour-
able and l.earned teeetleenate who stein:ned np the evi- I
defies. (the Solieiteer-Gene rat.) thought tit to make ob
nervations and statements Munch the evidence did not
bear out any more than it did the statement of his
Honourable. and Learned Colleague---(hear, hear
He therefore entirely concurred in the words of his
Honourable Friewl (Mr. Bennet), and he wont I re-
peat, that he consieleetat the conduit pursued by the
I Honourable stiff Learned Gentleman disgraceful But
notwithstanding tile statements that had been made.
and the evidence that hail been given, the feeling. of
the public towards her Majesty. fir trout bring d Julep-
e-I, was manifestly increased. He recollected upon
a former night, the words of the Noble Lord (Castle-
reagh.) 1 hat Noble Lord a !Hatted the extent of the
public feeling, hot he said, let the trial proceed—let
the evidence go forth, toed the ;intent wind would
he sutisfied mid tranquillized—etch certainly was
the substance of what had failen from the Noble
lord; but he (31 r. H.) it mild row ask any person
who hail witnessed the scenes it hide had sine taken
place—he would ask the N.etele I,orill himself whether
the feelings of the public had appeased ? On the
contrary. did not the gcnerote, t•• •lings of the English
people rise up its favour of 1:..r Majesty, in the Caine
proportion that infamous and incredible charges had
been poured out ageinst her? Iler enemies went
10881,1ot:1 their cuse—t..ey hail dime their worst—they
heel exhAmted all their power. and new, even Ott this
ears vat rase. hr would say. that if he were a juror,
he would before his Hod and his country acquit tier
Majesty of all the 1 11.!rues that had been brought
ageing her. It was sai I that the conduct of the
Queou had been of th,• most glaring kiwi. lint if
I the conduct of ter Majesty were such as the Attorney-
General demi-rib:4l it, who. eliel be not prove it by res-
pectah:e testimony by did he inselt this country
by the production of such witnesses as had been
brought forwa .41 ? Why did other Governments
(from what motives he ne eel nut describe) compel in-
dividuals to c to this conutry hi order to give evi-
-1 demo.? Whilst the case for the prosecution was go-
dlng on his Majesty's Ambassadors on the Continent
were acting as spies on her Majesty, and employed
in collecting every foul tale against her. But see
the rase on the other side. He had in his possession
a letter, npon which he could he thought rely, which
stated. that her 31ajesty's agent, Mr. Henry, who was
s to out from this 'wintry as the admitted and accre-
dited agent of the Queen, and it ho proceeded to mar-
shal the evidence to specific facts ; hut though sent
oat for that purpose, and appearing in that character.
vexatious impediments were thrown in his way, every
elitliretl:y was raised, and every interruption was given
to him. This hr believed to have been the fact, and
when the time should ennui'. they would be able to
prove that four pc; snits soh., had tendered their
services to come to England, were, through the
machinations of Colonel Brown, actually prevented
from coming, mill have declared that they would out
. But notwithstanding all that had °ern done,
lie was !me of those that el glut the Lords would
never find her Alajesty guilty ; he was satisfied that he
would not du so, even were they to art on the evidence
as it stood ; but above all, they would not do so alien
proof should be produced by her Majesty to rebut the
charges made against her. lie was therefore against
the amendment of his Honourable Friend, because he
thought that her Majesty should have the opportunity
of rebutting the evidence !anemia forward to sustain
the charges. Having said so much, he would now
beg to es!: the Noble Laird (Castlereagh) whether any
orders had been given to retain in this country those
persons who had been produced as witnesses against
her Majesty ? He understood that one of them,
Hascelli, was on his ronte to Italy, nu doubt for the
purpose of being employed to prevent such individuals
as he might know from coming to knglard to dis-
prove the charges that lied been made ; if this were
the case, what justice hall bee Majesty to expect ? And
here, by the way, he might be allowed to ask, who was
kastelli.? Ile was originally a stable-boy, but be
became a geutleman when he arrived in this country
so were the witnesses against her Majesty cherished
and encouraged ;
but individuals who might be dis-
posed to speak 4* her ferour were discouraged and
•otiusidated. satisfied the

an odioee tad
11::::ihrtrt.lir":::t
everiostrozylpciiperparrsoroyee.n
itosinhohattiacvladotedotrhiagi
ntinhiatetepdhp.:itana,
least those that might be thoucht worthy of lapsuei
went; but, above all, he thought that Ministers to be he the first objects of that impeachment. He: '-CA
not see that they originated or matured this foul 40;.
'piracy, but they ought to be impeached for ltircia.•
brought forward a proceeding so full of public -•.'
fortune, which went to degrade royalty, lad hillsi.
jare the &tractor of the country. He wonh;
to say, thatoicetings which were called sedition .
acts which were punished even with deatboversim.,
isjurious or so disgraceful to the country, as 4,114.—
dart and acts of Ministers would prove. Why,l4l.
were weavers hanged, whilst the Ministers were
over (loud laughter)? He would repeat his em,,,,,kt
that. this proceeding would prove meat iajariou I,
die cause of royalty, whilst it would make the tussah
life laughing-stock of Europe. He believed at this
moment that foreigners leached at this country, ett,
tbey saw a single woman pnt at defiance the %iv,
went, supported as it was by the whole Holy Al"
and by all the means, good and bad, ...ithin its marl:
' whilst, on the other hand, her Majesty was depeir,;
' of the means of bringing over witnesses on her hew;
1 --(Here Lord Castlereagh intimated his dissent.] H,
' iwould
ahe r
wsay,ay , aatndalltheavetnintso,
ntehsatwialisffincoutltai
at the time it was required. lie would entreat Its
Iftmourahle Friend not to persevere in his motion, be.
i wise that motion, if successful, would deprive lire
Majesty of the opportunity of rebutting the erideacs
against her. It was of the last importance
the cause should he fully heard. Woes the cause
should be beard, he was ....bovines-1J that ti•ese ishit,i.
duals. who were led astray by party feelirtz, world tr.
cover the true English generosity—would vai„,,m.,,
every illiberal and injurious sentiment, and support the
vans.• of an injur 11 and innocent Queen.
Dr. Put LUMORIR explained.
Lord CASTIAIRII6II sail he frit it mseessary t•-, troupe
the House with a few observations. though indeed the
;present discussion was hrooght foraged on grounds w
.napplieable—the arguments were so extraord.natv—
that one could not know well how to meet than; hat
'he tone and manner in which the ventiniests of the fire-
arm, 9 were ',creased rendered them the less (levering:
they were repugnant to every fair mind. He was temente
that the g...iti sense of the twlntry would lead every int•
partial person to reject with disgust the monstrous man.
tier of treating a proceeding non under judicial inquiry
in the other House of Parliament. It was much to be
lamented that the greatest and the most important is.
quirr that hail ever been instituted fur the sake of poi.
lic instice, and fur the sake of the character and m• ral.
of the conntry, should be thus dragged into ankridests:
discussion in that House. He would not dwell oath,
romantic and jiidicio.ta spirit which &Coated an !WSW
able Member that night, when he rose to remark m lis
pro.!etniftigs in the other House of Pertinent, Mira he
brought forward charges of partiality—above all, As
Ire impeached the House of Lords with having brimbist
the Learned and Honourable lientleuten who splayed
at their Bar as the Counsel of her Majesty. That des
claration of the Honourable Gentleman was quite
to show the temper in which those observations we=
He woofed torn from theirs, and appeal to the geld sere
of the House, which must liar. been shocked 801 l
ed to think that there were persons in this connteliPl:.e
could allow their tempers so to enntronl and diaper
themselves. They side lit attach public measures, heel
happiness of the people was beyond their reach—Pews
from the (lpposition.)—lle denied that there was say
, ground whatever for assuming that the House bad net
• deebiretl itself against this inquiry. So far free the
House 'laving d selareel itself against inquiry, it Wow
the contrary, three times adjourned, on the expresses.
trosplation of the proceedings in the other How. 'Pk
Homotrable and Gallant General hail pledged himself.
that if the Lords should send down the Bill. he malt
du all in his power to oppose the Legislature. lit
wools!, of course, pursue the line of conduct that In
might think lit: but this hr (Lord Castlereagh) us
say that it would not raise tlic Gallant ( ila
the opinion of that House or of the country, b
HI.
should NMI the pledge which los had given. lithe
at Id l'ulUr flown, it should he dispose" of; bat 1
would, he hoped, be eiispo.e.l of dispassionately. aal
fairly decided; that it would not he decided withal'
any previous consideration at NW —without any imlity
whatever, as the amendment of the Hon. M"iniver let
11'es:win-ore- would dispose of it. They cou!d net de
so, unless they ran counter to all the principles whit!'
• guided them heretofore. It would he an injustice with
respect to the Queen, whose legal advisers they had net
the advantage of hearing that night. Though &perma
of that assistance, they had the advantage of hearing
the lion. lientletuan (Me. Heinle), who, if not one of her
' legal advisers, appeared from Isis expressions to be bet
political adviser. He spoke in the first person plural—
: we mill du this. 'flip lion. Gentleman no doubt might
' pursue such (smoked, but he (Lord C.) did nut think that
• his dr. larations that night would add mach weight to
his opinions another time. lie was, however, glad to
hear the Ilonostrahle Member express his repugnance to
get rid of the question by that subterfuge, of whirh the
Gallant °three and the Honourable Member for We
world avail themselves—they would put doss
all inquiry on the plea of delicacy, and in order to avid
facing disgusting details. Do the Honourable Gentle-
men think that those disgusting details were the nen
I reation of the At torso.% -iieneral ? If there teas a flu.
spiracv fabricate! hut individuals—if a conspiracy el.
Wed, hove easy and natural wssulil it have been foe thaw
who sustained it to effect their object, as far as the Ihs
tionrable Member's reasonins- w; nt, by fahrismting the
fart at ones., instead of going into long and disrsoir.'.
details % Would it hare been the duty of the Attorney
tiencral to slight Outs.. chair ea —was it nut more lie
duty ,tf. that Honnorable and Learned Person to brio(
forward those charges, and the evidence by whirl. they
were sustaisod? lle was anxious only to see jnoire
done. He was sorry out to see time same di/Toshio/tie
others. He was sorry to n it nes% the want of teuqwr. fit
delicacy, and he would say of judicial decency 14P
would declare solemnly, that if a conspiracy 'misted. It
would call for the assistance of Hoomorahl: Geodesists
to assist him and his friends to detect it. The easterlies
that there was a compirare was an additional reuse
for them to proceed, and to follow it to the holm!
This was the plain anol ohs-isms lisle 9f ditty, instead e
t
attempting to inflame the mintle of the people nut 4
doors —an inflammation whirl,, if it elri•erd, he ""14 "y
that the sentimeets he heard that night were by 00
means likely to aUay. It Was the solemn dos, of :11101
House ant to interrupt inlairy ; it was her the charaeur
of the 44•••• that is Investigation sh ailil go nit br
ise would error mums. be mop it muter a plead talaissiert-
- a" brealle" '-- - --or had lwesi evioroil be tht

_. was that wire* _ filets
bie fairly stated, the ttarges would be found to be
oribrueded as they- were ititesoss, sad weeid be setitely
'disproved. He traceenriased %kit tie •
111‘ was slieeiraet Of y fold csespheey
would soli. teed tetbe isjelf,etaxiMereell

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