The Statesman.
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that alluded to by the Noble Lord, passages appeared
calculated to inflame the public oiled, and even going
the tragtis of encouraging the destruction of witnesses.
He most sincerely hoped that her Majesty would come
est of the investigation as pure as her warmest friends
"mid wish her to appear. He most sincerely hoped
Viet if she should appear to have been persecuted, pu
sisbnient sad disgrace might be beeped on her perse-
cutor? But all be asked, and all that he detnanded,
cis impartial justice ; and that no means of intimida•
tioa should be resorted to, either within those walls
or elsrwhete ; because any such proceeding would
bare a teadency to prevent the great public Authori-
t.es from fulfilling the sacred duty entrusted to them.
Lord HtIiILTON explained.
lir. S. WonTLaT declared, that it was a great re-
lief to him, and must have been a great relief to the
lbw, and even to the Hon. and Learned Dentleman
wiped, to hear the satisfactory explanation of the
sobk Lord. He hoped this circumstance would be a
14,,,,e to the public and to the House, and that they
„AM gaud against the attempts which were constantly
oskiag to &lade and deceive, and to create a false
',remiss on this subject. He most conscientiously
believed that the Hun. and Learned Gentleman would
wildlife brought the present motion forward if he
bold hews the facts ; bat it certainly appeared front
the Kohie Lord's statement, that either the Queen, or
loselady about her Majesty, must hats known that
holsioug was sot entitled to the plate in question,
aidrarerisre that the claim was made only to agitate
sad lame the public mind.
Mr. Wauseon said, that it was not competent to
the Crews to dispose of any property in the custody
o; the Lord Chamberlain, as the property of the Crown,
wittiest the sanction of its responsible advisers. To
saws. for a moment that it was a personal present
trom b s late Majesty to the Princess of Wales was a
ssep s this wholly unsupported by facts. When the
piste was delivered, in an entry (as described
hr lb Noble Friend) was made by the Lord Chamber-
lain, that it was his Majesty's plate, lent for the
specific use of the Princess of Wales in Kensington
Palate. In all cases it was merely an accommodation
suited to the specific residence granted by the King
for the time. A personal present from her Majesty it
mild not be, unless it had been purchased out of the
Pciry Parse.
Dr. Le m I N GTON was persuaded that, after the various 1
observations which had been levelled at him in the course I
of the prescat discussion. the House would have the can-
dour to indulge him for a few minutes. It had been said I
that. motions of this description were made for the sole i
purpose of inflaming the passions of the people. and
nciting out of doors as agitation extremely inimical
to impartial justice. He (Dr. Lnshington) declared,
that if he had known any better way than by an appli-
ratios ta that House, of securing the object in view, he
would not have resorted to such an application; for as
far as his humble advice might influeuce her Majesty,
her Majesty should Inver intrude on the notice of the
V,except in a case of deep and unavoidable necessity.
wies decidedly of spinier that her Majesty bad not
imperluated from his Majesty's Ministers the liberal and
migrairmr., +hick, as their Soiresuph. she
• *stance of this be world call to the
recasellus of the House. and he would appeal to the
justice mid miser of the House if it did slut bear him
out is the resnarlt which he had just made. The Horse
would resseribes, that when her Majesty wrote to the
hobk Lprel at the head of the Admiralty, requesting
that a yacht might be provided to convey her Majta•y
to this comitn, that Noble Lord simply stated, in his
answer, that Majesty was out of town, and therefore
that he could sot reply to her Majesty's request. Now
be (Hr. Lushington) said this, that when the Queen of
the country made such as application, it was the duty
of the ruble Lord at the bead of the Admiralty to go,
whithersoever ids Majesty might happen to be at the
time, and without delay, to comumaicate her Majesty's
request to the King. When her Majesty received
a note of that description, so worded—when site saw
that her request was neglected, and that she was com-
pe,ied to take refuge in a common packet-boat, it
was certainly no great encouragement to her
Jla-
jes•)• to and* to his Majesty's Ministers again on any
snineet connected with her comfort and accommodation.
Whatever might be the facts as to the plate being locally
snacked, and possessing au irremovable character, it was
lot to be 'opposed that her Majesty could possibly be
asare of them. This was still wore apparent from the
eircnnistsoce mentioned by the Noble Lord, namely,
that iu ISI4 the Qtreen sought to take the plate with her
to the Continent, which showed her conviction that it
was bet property ; and that when she was abroad she
again applied (or it, which proved that her conviction
en the subject remained unchanged. It was not, then-
fore, just to suppose that lie hiol been emplo ed to ad-
vocate a claim which was not believed to be hi
traill aid justice. The Right Honourable tilminlest
tot Chichester had stated, that it was not in the
power of the Crown to grant such plate as that which was
Ile subject of this motion. That was a fact which he
Leshington) would sot dispute. Bat would the Right
on. Omdurman say that it was not usual for the King to
Wake presents oat of the Civil List 1 lie (Dr. Lushiugton)
believed that It was very usual; and how, therefore, could
It be expereed that bee Majesty should be acquainted with
fie roam himalldies of the subject? Helmeted, that what-
"lst might be thew formalities. the House would agree with
btu. Thalia subdue* bee Majesty's request could not, with
" regardrtocliberalf
and 111 x. Hcrctstxsox elPlained-
Tim stones was then put, sad negatived without a division,
ADJOURNMENT OF Till HOUSE.—Lord CAset.n.
alum gate nodes that he would to-morrow more, that, at
Its rising, the House should adjourn to Monday neat.
NEW POST -OFPICE.—Sir W. CunTte brought
pp t:le Report of the Committee on the New Post-Office.
C it.vene stated the hard case of an individual,
Mr. August.:l Brows, whose peouotoos bed been destroyed
tar the purpose of meting the intended edMee, but who had
bars "Able. 'Wheel* be had petitioned Parliament on the
Abject, to oblate the compensation to which he was un-
doubtedly entitled.
Mr. P. Moons supported Mr. Brown's claim. If
there were time (which there unfortunately was not), be
!mid more to refer the Report to the re-tvonsideralloo of
tlr ommittee, that they might comprehend in it a notice of
kr. Brown's petition, w they had been Instructed to
e•ati4ler. The Comoiltid th
too were onsotrooos In favour of Mr.
v
"r". 4 risks; but the dillealty was, by whom he was to be
Mid—the city, or the Treasury tHe should advise that
emirates to proceed against the City fur the amount of his
eeziki.
Sir r
W. L as Chairman of the Committee,
Ira..? bound to make the Report which be bad brought up.
31• cheerfully, however, allowed the validity of Mr. Brown's
elai s, and ihoe his' fellow citizens had been highly to
llre 01 the ;oboe. Blame was likewise imputable else-
" We. Between the two Mr. Brows was the *utterer; bet
Zia *edemas opposite woaid bring In a Bill to 60
, it should have his cordial seppurt.
Mr. CALTaar declined doing this. The Bill, the
Ibbort ssfavalch had just beets brought up, although a Pri-