The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-04-12 00:00:00

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peaditate. From t; a Speech of his Masco, at the
commencement of the Session, he was led to hope for
a considerable reduction in those Estimstat. He came
trio the couetry sincerely disposed to support the
measures of Ministers, It; really the profusion of ex-
penditure was 114) excessive, that be costa not, as an
holiest wan, support it.
Mr. BIiCKET explained.
Mr. DENMAN said, that a ref...react 4vm made to
him by the Right Honourable earthman (Mr.
Becket), but be could not ledge of the particular la-
bours of the Right Honourable Oestlesnan ; be could
not judge by the piece without seeing a sample,—
(A laugh). He (Mr. Denman) had no hesitation is
saving, that the labours not only of the Chief Justice,
but of the Puisne Judges, far exceeded the labour
of the Right Honourable Oentleman. lie (Mr. Den-
man) regretted, that particular circonotaners prevent-
cal him froiu attending in his place in that Hon,e, to
wsist those who Mid so honourably opposed the e, to
• grants of the public money, exertions which,
if they did not tell at the present time, wool. be
found to operate most beneficially hereafter.
Colonel DAVIES made a fe r observations in fa-
vour of the Am liduietit.
Mr. R. MARTIN supported the original question.
51r. HU said, he had no doubt but that the
lion. Gent. who bad just sat down (Mr. Martin)
would rote for any sure th might be proposed at the

other side.—(llear, hear.)
Mr, M. MARTIN rose to order. He had a predi-
lection in favour of government, and had great confi-
dence that Ministers wonld not propose atty sum that
they did not think necessary. The 1190. (;rot. was
proceeding with sonic further observations, when he
war. called to order.
M r.IIU3IE begged to remind the Ilona?, that the
salary of the foruier Mem ate-fienerat (Sir Charles
who not only as ted as Ailvorate-General,
bat also as Secretary to the Board of General Officers,
a.houated in the whole to 1.033/. n bast the shy salary
of the Right Honourable Gentleman amounted to
2,3004 a year. The Honourable Gentleman proceed-
ed to say, that the Deputy-Aileurateliencral at present
performed the duties of a cotnnents clerk, and as such
onglit to be paid. It wa. not consistent with reason
to suppose that so many Conrt-inartials shoots' take
place at present as were held obeli Ilse army was
insult more numerous. [Here s.one Ilunots rabic Mem-
b;:rs cri:d " situ.stion, question !" which was anmet-
ed by Inoll cries of heat, hear from the Opposition].
:M.G. RENNET rose and said, Sir, if Gentlemen
arc impatient I shall move an adjourkeuent ; I hope
Gentlemen come here, not only to vote, but to listen.—
(1.1111 cherry).
31r F. ROBINSON hoped that the Honourable
G...:leissan (Mr. Hume) would proceed in his slate•
; he hoped lie usstslll recount that the impe-
l., ..re manifested was not generally expressed by the
but came from A particelar quarter.
111.31 E resumed. He sail he had but very
Lisle more to tross101) the Hon," with. He submitted
t..at if the proposed earn was diminished by 11010/. a
)e.tr, the salary would be as large as the salary of the
tn..ser Advocate-tfeueral received in the ye.sr I‘oli.
After souse further observations, the Honourable lien
tiesuan costeluded by evprestiu4 Isis deterusissation to
vote for the Ameniusent.
Mr. W. SMITH observed. that is scat quite esitlent
111111111“ Of Iton. Cooties-nen o his slowed Ms 11111 Ch
ti,s'lls's., cause shown to flint MOW, lo.st fist' ter
pot p.c.. of heating toe :-..ll)jes ussed, but to vote fur
ti.,• Minister.
Loud MI AYES said that isr for one was no' !mond
to listen to the Honourab:e Gentleiussis. lithe humor-
aisle Gentleman alluded to Isito, he is &mid say that he
nab not correct.
Mr. WM. SMITH said, that it srah 1111p0Y,Ittl,. for lam
to allude to any particular josh% übtal, but he would
reiwat that lientlemets in that Iluts..e were more disposed
to rote than to inquire.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL said, that fienlemea
Lest him, far from being impatient, skewed the utmost
oitention to what was passing its the House.
Doctor LUSHINUTON said, that Isis Honourable
awl ',vaned Priest' (the Solicitor General) suust oer-
talsl been asleep, for if he wese not most pro-
141111111V so, be might have heard the cry of question
trpeateilly disturbing the proreedings of the House.
'I hose details might he irksome
_to Hentlensen, but
tl.ry Isere of the nutmeg importauce to the public.—
(dear, !sear.)—The lion. and Learned Headroom pro-
seeded at some length to spew that the proposed grant .
a 0 entirely too large. Ile confessed himself diseatis- .
to al, not only with the original Resolution, but with I
tut: astiets•lment also. He did not consider the offices
of Is.puty Judge Athos:ate, or Assistant Judge Adro-
t4te, in :Inv war useful. And Ise would therefore move
as, amendment that Ilse proposed sum should be re-
%karst by a sills of 1,20 W. bring the amount of the
salaries of tts.eie otic..ers
Lord MILTON protested against the idea of taking
the salaries of %Onto as any standard for the salaries ut
the present slaY- In ISO 6, corn was sold at rtes., now
it was sold at 54i. Country Gentlemen were forced
to restate their rents : every class in society suffered a
sensible diminution. Were those who held offices
under Government to be the only pers ins who were
to stand exempt from the effects of that pressure which
Isa.e so hard upon society ?—(lllear.)
Mr. BEN NET sail he should be glad to see any
toe smallest reduction made in the estimates.
Mr. It. MARTIN said, if the lion. Gentleman
sr.suld propose a reduction of 3s. he (Mr. 31.) would
tote fur it.—(A laugh.)
Mr. BATHURST said, the gronnd for the reduc-
Lon of Ow salary of the Judge Advocate bad failed.
hecause it had been shewn that the business was as
drat now as it had :seen in war. 'I be argument
Calif. Com the depreciation of looney would apply to,
ash °Si es.
HUME wished to know selitilser the 260 Court
3lartials which hail been returned were all General
Court Martials, or General and Regimental ones to-
gether Ile hail heard, too, that the late Judge Ad-
vocate (Mr. Manners Sutton,) who nosy so ably filled
the Chair of the noose, :mewled all Court Martial,
oa oibeers while also Right Hon. Getstieman (Mr.
Becket) had only atterulrd two or three since he
Ltd been in office. .At least the Right Honourable
Gentleman should telithene how many Le bad attended
i 9 person.
Mr. BECKET said the 260 included both deserip-
Kons of l'onrt Menials. He load followed the rale in
tt'e °lce, which was, that the Judge-Advocate-Woe-
tat should attend Court Martial, ea lienerat Officer"
sad us others,