The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-06 00:00:00

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Eliminati•n resumed.

You sAy tailor Wei roe by Schiavini ?—Yes.
Is the bode of by biro ?—Yes.
About thattime was iavini in the habit of giving
rerefieitei to krises quitting the service of her Royal
HigLnees ? - .
Mr. &maltase., That )1 an improper question,—he
should rasher be asked in what situation he was at that
time.
What situation did Schiavini hold at that time ?
Matostbal of the Palace.
When the servants left the Palace did any person
usually gore their character ?—1 have not seen it prat:-
Used. but Majocci gut a certificate, and Schiavini gave
it him.
Was Schiavini Master of the Palace when he gave it
him!—He was.
Did toe apply to him for a certificatet—No, I did net.
How. long before you quitted did Majocci go I—Ma-
jot* wen; before me.
How Lung ? I don't recollect—ahont two months.
'The ATTORNSTAiIINLIIIAL thought the certificate might
then he read.
Mr. tlant•onsit contensied, that they had got no fur-
ther than they were before with respect to the inadmis-
hibiiitv of the paper.
The Lugs CHANCSLLOR read the question and answer
the beginning of this.
ERSKINE observesLthat a single instance would I
tint prove the custom.
(Here that part o: the evidence before alluded to, was
oNfered to be read.)
Mr. Bnovoir sm observed in the course of the reading.
that the answer of witness, in which he stated what bad
beta told him by another, was not evidence, and ought
not to stand on the Journals.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that what had been said
to witness by a third party was not evidence.
The Arroenst-tiartanat stated, that Him could show
that the certifiate in question was riven to witness by
a person authorised by her Royal Highness, it was ma-
ficzent authority for producing the paper, without peer-
leg her llov.il Higness's answer (the reading of that
part of eriance to which we have before alluded.)
The ATTORNET-liSSERAL again observed, that the
evidence to which be alluded 'hewed such a connexion
as to be prima facie evidence that Schiavani was in a
situation to give characters to the servants of her Royal
Highness, and that this would let in the reading of the
certificate in question.
Mr. Baocuiram said that he did not before feel it se-
emery to trouble their Lordships on the subject of the
seal. On looking to that seal, nu mortal eye could see
any impression on it. Nay, not even a microscopic eve
could not discern any thing on it. It was a piece of fiat
rat, on which two circles and nothing more could be
observed.
The ATTOINKT-GSNIRAL SSW. his Learned Friend
had spoken of a microscopic eye ' • now he (the Attar-
ney-lseneral) did not po good eyes, yet be could
Fee on the seal both arms and supporters.—(Here the
seal was examined by some Peers.]
Mr. Beoccitsst said lie bad no objection to the seal
being examined. but he protested against the paper be-
ing received in evidence.
/dr. Demur observed, that there was no proof that
the seal was not affixed to the paper by Saccht himself.
The paper was not received in evidence.
Reennied.—You were askedjust now about a family
of the name of Marietta, who are they ?—1 know several
brothers.
Had they a banking-house at Milan ?---They had.
Have they also ono et trade In Londe. ?—I do net
imam if it is in their name.
a you know that there is a Firm or Company t-1 do.
Is one of the Mariettas a partner in that house ?—Yes,
I believe.
Do you know if the Mariettas are Bankers at Milan?
--Once they were so.
You stated that two months ago one of the Mariettas
called on you did.
On that occasion did be state the purpose for which
he called
Mr. BROINIFIANI objected to a conversation between
Mr. Marietta and the witness being placed upon their
Lordship's Journals.
The Arrunerr-tiascasi. contended that be had a
right in re-examination to ask any question as to a sub-
ject which had bent brought forward in previous cross-
examinations.
The IaORD CHANCELLOR dir'eted that such a part of
the evidence should be as related to this converse-

This having been done,
Loan linsaixa said a few words in favour of Mr.
Brougham's argument.
The Earl of Llvraroof. observed. that in his opinion,
the Attorney-lieneral had a right to cross-examine the
witness to the whole of the conversation in question.
Upon the mere question of law, however, he wished for
the opinion of the Noble and Learned Lord on the
Woolsack.
The Lord ell ANCELLOR delivered his opinion, that, as-
sooting as a fact, that Mr. Brougham had examined
generally as to a conversation, it was competent for the
Attorney-Beneral to take the grated of examination for
which he was contending.
Mr. Snowman then requested that the note' of the
evidence might be referred to.
They were accordingly referred to, and Mr. Attorney
Peneral proceeded to pet a question in the following
Serail:—
Upon what occasion did you tell Mr. Marrietta you
were plug to giv evidence against the Queen—what
iodecod it
Mr. &moon tie (Netted to this question as not arising
sot of the cross-examfoatioa.
Mr. Dastn•w follow.* Mr. Broll,lllllo in support of
the ' nod submitted eras nothing never
which larietta bad said to the witness could possibly
be missal.
Mr. ATIOMT-0111118111411. admitted the proposition
that nothing could be asked on a re-examination, but
what fairiy arose out of the ova-examination ; he yet
contended that this quostios did substantially arise out
or Mr. Uroaghasn's cross-examination. He (Mr.
Brougham) had examined the witness as to what bad
itamesnl between the witness and Marietta on a certain
occasion. and he clitr. Attorney-Oeseral) contended that
be had as equal right to examine to the whole.
Mr. lisouonam replied. awl attempted to distinguish
this question from the general rule.
The LOIDCIAINCILLOIII was of opinion that Mr. Attor-
sowlieneral was regular in his question.
Did any conversation relative to your being a witness
here, pass between you and Marietta?—Marietta same
to me one morels/. awl told me that his brother
bad tel Oita that Mr. Brougham, brother of Mr.
Brougham. her Nafesty's Counsel, to whom he. Marietta,
was indebted for favoura—
ble. Baoursamis row. and protested ageless this hear-
say aviilearo, when ha was called teenier by Lord Ex-
nowath, sad the arias of " Order, order, order,' resseadod
Mrooerally.
ifistroosatt cemplalned of this ioterruptioa, and
astawl. “ Is it the pleasure of this Nona to bear me
or oat r
Lied lisereesslsesiGed his =Him( Mr. Brawling' to
swam end echoed dist bo seseedered it improper is aay
4:•••••1 Worn. Moses la say occaskso what.
over.
Lord that said, be thought the Howe mid ill