The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-03-07 00:00:00

THE STATERM,

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I It Iv* impeeeihkstbat the Officers at the Crown,
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heisted in the atra, the Offseers.of. the Crewn mile
of responsible, bet these perms, who bad auempted
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jpoint then, to which be would same, was the omission

;of the fitters, se►vice at, the place of, intersect. .What
Abe would say to that was, that it was not the custom
to other sountriva. The Hume was as, therefore, to
infer, that because there, was no funeral serriaal there
was a want of respect, to,har Majesty. The Honour,
able Gentleman (Mr. Bennet) admitted tbet the Drib,.
of Brautrick had no funeral service performed for
him. On the whole he hoped be bad clearly proved,
that the use respect bed bee. shewn to her Majesty
which bad bees usual with other ushers of the
Royal Family. He hoped, in showing, that he did out
travel out of his way. He weald then sit lawn quite
satisfied that the House would negative the Hon
Gentleman's proposition; and be was eqUally satisfied,
that from the documents be saw, his Majesty'. Minis-
ters intended to execute, as u well as they amid, the
will of the Queen.

Dr. LUSHINOTON said, that be shoalciteuer have
revived the subject then before the Reuse, if the pre-
sent motion had not been brought forward. That
being done, however, it became his ditty to give bis
opinion, and to explain certain facts and circumstances
with which be bad been personally coducted. He
should end to follow the example of the Right
Hon. Geodesists opposite, by abstaining from all
topics which cook! properly be left out of the discus-
sion. It had been his misfortune throughout the
whole of this unfortneate case. to incur blame from
both the parties connected with it. He incurred
blame from these who supported his Majesty's Minis-
ters, for having taken too active a part; aid he in-
curred blame from those who were peculiarly called
the Queen's friends, for not hiving gone far enough
in snpport of the dignity and solemnity of the fo-
peral ; sad he was afraid that he should still disagree
with both sides in some puts of the speech he was
about to make. He had a difficult course to steer,
and that which be did, he conscientiously thought
to be for the best. Above all, he had taken care net
to sager the exercise of the power of that &natio. to
which her Majesty apitoisted him, to be polluted, (for
he could call it nothing else) by party motives.—.1
(Hear. hear.)—He trusted the House would pardon
him if he went into some details, for the purpose of
explaining what did .tear. and what did net eCeart
with regard to the *creamy of her Majesty's fa
The moment the decease took place, be despetebed a
messenger to Lord Liverpool, squinting him with
the fact. He was then occupied during the night in
arranging the papers of her Majesty, which it was
necessary should be placed is a state of security. The
seat day. at twelve o'clock, he had his first interview
with the First Lord of the T y. Is giviag the
Holm an account of what passed between himself and
that noble individual, in his absence, he was sure ihat
he should rather state the case against himself than
otherwise. If he knew his own heart, he was inca-
pable of misrepresenting in the slightest degree any
thing which passed under such circumstances. The
first words which Lord Liverpool addressed to him
were—" I have no hesitation in informing you. that
it is the intention of his Majesty's Government to
bear the expeoces of the fsneral." He (Dr. L.) con-
fessed that be was at the time so ignorant of the
nature of such occurrences, that he did not know where
the expense was to come from. He asked the Noble
Lord what facilities would be afforded to the Execu-
tors to have the body interred according to the direc-
tions of the Will. Lord Liverpool requested that the
First Lord of the Admiralty might be consulted as
to the means of conveying the corpse across the sea.
He heti then to eater into communication with Lord
Melville and the Honourable Admiral opposite; and
from them he not only received every possible civility,
but every possible accommodation and assistance.—
Nay,more, it was in justice due for him to state that
Lord Melville bad carried his kindness so far as to
give him a personal recommendation to Capt. Doyle.
The Earl of Liverpool, anxious that the corpse should
be removed as speedily as possible to its destination,
Saturday was first named for the day of its departure;
but he (Dr. Lushington) remonstrated, and Monday
was then fixed. The motives of this haste on the
part of Ministers Lord Liverpool declared to be—
first, the directions of the Queen ; and secon.ity, that
his Majesty was then waiting to land in Ireland, and
the country in a state of great anxiety for that evens;
so that the greatest possible inconvenience must arise
from the body not leaving the country with all possi-
ble and decent dispatch. His Lordship further stated,
that it would be desirable to consider the body's be-
ing put on board as equal to interment. Ile-(Dr.
Lushington) acceded at once to these proposals, for he
raw reason in them. He thought it desirous that the
remains should be removed with speed, as far as de-
corum and propriety would admit. He thought so,
because he felt that it would be a mockery to expect,
that after all which had passed, the Royal Personage
who was then absent should be overwhelmed with
sorrow at his loss.—(Hear, bear.) But he afterwards
found that the species of dress necessary for
the occasion could not be prepared in time. He found
also that there would be the greatest difficulties to
encounter on the other side of the water. He was
informed that when they arrived at Stadt, they would
find no conveniences whatever for prosecuting the
journey, with the retinue necessary. to the solemnity.
—lle applied to Baron Beat. the representative of
the Hanoverian Minister, Count Munster, and found
that he had been correctly informed upon this sub-
ject. lie understood from Lord Liverpool that the
time of performing the journey to Harwich was to be
two days, if it could be done in that time with due de-
corum and propriety, if not three days were to be al.
lowed. He then met to Baron Best again. and in-
quired whether any specific arrangements had bees
wade at Stadt for the conveyance of the corpse and

bees* Net brim satisfied wills ibis, its
posed. OM it tdrNltl be hearted Codicil
to the WA 4b14 vies 'unendingly 'Setts.' lie
*took Iliii.preeteititik, %senile 'll' lett that It would
isetlieistregh for ig eons forward after bleifr
joits deal# and ell thritsite badmade a private re-
iliettletteliebia•. WOOL He foresaw all the diffierd.
thrs.whiek this wrest would brieg spas him, but he
*his deliermised toe:tents it to the best of tria shill-
e Wirestielinsidted the will to Laid Liverpool.
*Adds ibeervid, that the Government could
t,t carry tl s codicil into elect, as they would there-
,.lrecastirtg.a censure upon themeless. The Hon.
acid Learned Member solemnly declared that he bad
awns eadresseed the objection of the Earl of Liver-
pool to be to the Ministers ordering this iestriptilk
themselves. He might have been 'Footle this, ball
he believed that the Oevernment did not mean to II!'
lettere with the executors if they affixed theinseriptimi
to the collo. The plate was not ready until the mom,
lag of the 14th, and there was us oppertenity
viacieg it is its situation whilst the corpse waist Ii
England, but that which presented itself at Celebes.'
ter, He felt himself thus placed in the most diffialt.
circumstances. He felt reluctant to perform this of-,
ice in the chinch, and he felt that this was the last
opportunity be should have of performing it at all-a—
`lie begged that the house would not look at this Sir-
:camstance with coolness and reflection, without corral-
:tiering the feelings by which be was agitated at the
,time. lie took the alternative. He had pledged his
'honor—his sacred honour to his dying mistress, and'
he acted to the best of his judgment a just part; and
if he were again placed ander similar circumstances,'
so help him fled, he would pursue the same course.—
He knew that it bad been said, that be profaned the
House of God ! and be knew that there were canting
methodist', who bad approved his conduct to his face,
and traduced him behind his back. He chose a time
for his purpose, when the Church was nearly empty.
and it was not until the plate had been affixed to the
ieffin for three minutes, that any representation was
made upon the subject. He left the Church and saw
no indecorous disturbance. He did hear that the mi-
litary afterwards entered, but that was after he was
gorse, and he saw nothing of it. They then proceeded
to Harwich, where the body was taken out of the hearse
and conveyed along the quay in such haste that he was
obliged to run to keep op with it. There was no pall
upon the coffin, and the boat in which it was con-
veyed was filled so that be could not accompany it.—
The Hon. Member for Huntingdon compelled ten of
the undertakers men and four carriages to embark for
Stadt, and even with this force they bad the greatest
difficulty in proceeding when they arrived there. With
one little exception he bad no complaint to make as to
the conduct of the funeral for the remainder of the
journey to Brunswick. There was another point upon
which he was anxious to vindicate his own conduct
from misrepresentations which had gone abroad.—
One of the Honourable Members for the City of
Loaders had coesidered himself neglected iu not
being allowed to accompany the funeral as one of the
iiimealeelek He had meoldered the Homarable Mena:
her as a friend of the late Qsees, and be had in-
ended to provide for his attendance in that capacity.
Bo Lard Liverpool subsequently desired him to put
hews the names of all the household, for whom pro-
vide's meld be made. This of coarse excluded the
Hon. Alderman, and he sent him a copy of the letter.
Whet they were at Harwich, he was again applied to
to pet down the name of the Honourable Alderman.
Bet be would again ask, how in the name of honour
he could, acting upon the same principles, pat him
down as one of the household at Harwich, when he
had refused to dose at Brandenburgh House. Three
weeks after this he was astonished to find that his
letter, and that of Lord Liverpool's, bad been printed,
with another censoring his conduct from the lion.
Alderman, whom he had daring that period seen at
Brunswick, without his saying a word upon the sub-
jeet. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then adverted
to his interconse with the Queen previous to her
death. Some months had elapsed, daring which be
was reldom with her. Ile considered that his sduty
was at an end when the trial finished, and, amongst
other reasons, his professional engagements greatly
operated to prevent his being with her Majesty; bet
above all, he deprecated becoming her political ad-
riser. He avoided it, because he did not feel himself
qualified, and because he was satisfied that the Queen
would be so mach better advised,by her then Attor-
ney and Solicitor General. With regard to the mo-
tion before the House, he acquitted Lord Liverpool of
all intention of paying disrespect to her Majesty's re-
mains; hut the persons who had the details of these'
plans were guilty of culpable and studied neglect.
He complained that a proper person was net sent by
the Governroest to accompany the funeral—that too
much bad been left to chance—that decency had been
violated—that the respect which was her due, with-
held—and the feelings of the country again outraged.
With such feelings, however, and though he did not
attach blame to those in power, yet if the lion. Mem-
ber pressed his motion to a division, he would give it
his support.—Hear, hear.)
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, that in
consequence of the full explanation given on this
occasion by his Right Hon. Friend, and in the candid
manner in which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
delivered himself, his own duty, in opposing the mo•
tion before the house, would be very much narrowed.
The Honourable Member for Shrewsbury had made
a grave charge against his Majesty's Ministers, of hav-
ing. denied to her late Majesty's remains the ordinary
solemnity due to a Queen of England ; and of having
been morally answerable far the blood that was shed
on the day when the funeral entered the metropolis.
Indeed the Hon. Member did not go so far in his accu-
sation as be had done on a former day, when h.,
charged the Ministers with being the authors of the
massacre on the 14th of August ; hut still lie said they
were morally responsible for it. Now so far as the con-
duct of Ministers was concerned, he conceived that
he .could not adopt a better defence than the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman who spoke last had made for
them; for that Hon. Gentleman bore testimony to every
arrangement and accommodation ordered by the several
officers of the Government in regard to the funeral.—
He should now, however detail such circumstances re-
specting the business as required an explanation, and
describe what was the true position in which the par-
ties had been placed. Whatever right the Hon. end
Learned lient.einan might have in his character of ex-

So 1111.1.11.11.111111.715111Thet Ifiojeety. that rig t Min regard
ko a prints iiiiirldstal„ but not so in respect to a
Member of the Royal Family; for the right of retro-
ladog the funeral of aiyaudh person lobldaged aloes
to the' Crowa,and .lot to as ettcator, who bad aothing
to de • trilkit. Lord Liverpool bad told the Hon. eel'
Learnetyleatlemsa, that the expenses of the funeral.
were to be bores by the Goveromen‘ gad it was ia
the Government alone that the right of directing it
eitisted. The executers, therefore. had nothing to do
with the funeral, and the Holt. Gentletnan, although
executor, did not weedy, it necessary for him to take
the responsibility on himself. Ile (Lord Londonderry)
could assure the House, from the best source of ice- •
formation, that the management of the funeral was
intrusted by the Government to. Mr. Thomas. a
gentleman perfectly qualified to undertake it. Mr.
Thomas was the officer next under Mr. Mash, who
could not be present at the funeral, because, as be
belonged to the Lord Chamberlain's office, be was at*.
that time obliged to be in attendance upon his Ma-
jesty, who WAS thee on his way to Ireland. Mr.
Thainas was the same gentleman who bad conducted
the funeral of the babe of Kent, and no funeral could
be better conducted than that was. It was well known
that Lord. Liverpool bad given directions to have tbe
f I properly conducted ; and the Secretary of the
Lord Chamberlaio's department was desired to condact
it with every kind of solemnity and decorum from Har-
wich to Hanover. It was evident, then, that the (lo-

vernment had employed the whole of the department
to perform every duty that was necessary on this ucca-
sion. The ceremonial sent forth as to the manner in
which the funeral should be conducted. was a docu-
ment which proved that Government bad taken upon
aself the whole responsibility of the business; aid
that it was one in which the executors could have so

power whatever. But at the same time there was
every disposition on the part of the Government to
listen to any suggestions which the executors might
melte. It would be recollected :bat her late Majesty,
is her last moments, desired that her remains mizet
be removed in three days after her decease ; and from
this it was evident that she had no disposition to be
followed by funeral pomp, or that her remains should
receive any attentioas on the part of a popu-
lace, from which, perhaps, she felt that before
that time she had derived no advantage. The
Noble Marquess then remarked upon the disposition
evinced by Government to hasten the funeral; but he
wished it lo be understood, that this desire of accelerat-
eng.the departure of the corpse did not originate with his
Majesty. The arrangements were made upon the parti-
cular responsibility of his Noble Friend, the Minister ire
London at that time. He could say this, because it hap-
pened that be was in personal attendance upon his Ma-
jesty at the tints when the intelligence of the Queen's
death arrived. He could assute the house that tne
in-
tehtigence was received by the Illustrious Personage
with great feeling, and that every rearkofirespect, such
as lowering flags and offier ceremonies. were ordered
by his Majesty expressly, who did not appear on deck
for a considerable time. After the arrangements
had
been made, considerable inconvenience would have been
occasioned by an alteration ; and it was therefore very
properly resolved to adhere to them. With respect to
the proposed inscription on tie coffin, he coold not im-
pute any blame to his Noble Friend for the course he
took; bet he (the Marquess) was decidedly of opinions
that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had ho right
whatever to do *bat he had done. This remark, how- ,
ever. be was not disposed to press unnecessarily ; and he
would only observe. that his Noble Friend bast informed
the Hon. and Learned Member that such an inscription
would not be allowed to be placed on the coffin while
her Majesty's remains were in the custody of the King's-
Officers. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman was ace,
however, to understand that he was to be at full liberty
to step in at any time afterwards, and in his character
of executor, affix the inscription. Such an understand-
ing would have been a contemptible evasion on the part
of his Noble Friend, who had merely intimated that the
proceeding could not be permitted in this country,
though he did not anticipate the course which might be
taken by others. With regard to the embarkation, it
was very true that there had been a desire to accelerate
itat Harwich, and he believed this had been done wit's
every possible solemnity; but if there Itad been any in-
advertency. any thing for which some bla.ne might be at-
tributed to an undertaker, surely this was not a gruirld
of serious charge against his Majesty's Ministers. The
qtiestio.: was, what had been the intention ?—(llear.)
The Hon. and Learned Gentlemen himself appeared to
acquit Ministers. He had panegyrised the Bari of Li-
verpool ;he had anegyrised Lord Melville; he had
panegyrised the Admiralty, and indeed every one, except
the immediate officers of the Governipent. As to the
rapidity with which the procession had been carried on,
he could not agree, that because it bad been interrupted
on the first day, the arrangements should he altered en-
tirely, especially as it was to be remembered that the
church at Chelmsford bad been fitted op for the recep-
tion of the coffin, and the persons connected with time
town were in expectance of seeing the arrival of the •
procession. He now carne to the heinous offence whir'.
had been committed by Ministers, in acting against the
opinion of the Common Council of the city of London.
Ministers were not bound to attend to that opinion, even
.had the arrangements not been made before it eas ex-
pressed. Those arrangements, however, had been 44.1
made. (Ilse Noble alarqness here referred to the offi-
cial letter in answer to that conveying the resolutions of
the Common Council.) And these arrangements being
thus made, he thought it was a little too much to VW.
that they should he all disturbed. He did not wish to
speak disrespectfully of the Common Council, although
he was unfortunately in the habit of lila; ring from theme
upon public matters; hut, really, when hr considered the
opinions they had expressed respecting the Quern, h •
certainly would not go out of his way to s:inform to their
opinions. He had net heard of any disposition they
had shewo to pay attention to the memory of her lat.-
Majesty Queen Charlotte ; and be thought it not alto-
gether. necessary that the Queen of England should
be in t d udder the auspices of the Common
Council of the City of London. It was some relief to
Ministers in the measures they took, to know that thee
were acting under her Majesty's own directions; for
even without them, it would have been desirable to pre-
vent the funeral from being made a vehicle for that e.
bat and faction which had disturbed her peace whde 1 l-
ing.—(Hear, hear.) If the funeral could have bean con-
ducted by water, Ministers wished it to have been so
conducted : but the navigation of the river rendered it
highly inconvenient. He admitted, however, that he
preferred adhering to the spirit, ash • conceived it,of her
Majesty's will, to deferring to the o linen of the Com-
mon Council. On the whole, he d -eply lamented that
the attention of the house and °lute country should hay-
been called to a subject which had better be blotted
from remembrance. He should always look bark with
pain to the disgraceful scenes which had taken Owe dur-
ing her Majesty's life. but he wished them to be forgot.
ten, a wish in which be believed be was heartily plink
by her late Majesty's best friends. He could not, how-
ever, sit down without expressing it as hi* opinion, that
there was no day in the history of•the country more die-
grass: fol to it than that, .on which a spiteasatic

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thin bad been offered to the exertions of the legal Officers,
while they were oondictiog the funeral of the Queen.—
(Hear, bear.) •
Dr. LUSIIINGTON ebortly explained-
Mr. 111101!SE said lie was in hopes the Hone,
was not now to be told that those who advocated tie,
cause of the Queen were a desperate cabal and radio*.
If the words applied to a great majority of the people,'
' they more properly belonged to a few base, designing,
nod wicked men, who had indicted the greatest wrongs
and injuries ono persecuted female, who was their Mis-
tress, the wife of their Sovereign. Those were the
%you., oilier persecutors; Ore hurried her to her grave;
and, after her death, would not allow to be placed se
her eoffin that inscription which she had dictated in her
last moments. The late Queen was not alone defended
by him, or a few persons, but by the great majority of
the people of England : and as to what had fallen from
a Right Hon. Secretary respecting the populace, be
would say, they should not be spoken of in such a way ;
for there was no class of his Majesty's subjects, however
low their condition might be, who were not entitled to
consideration and protection from the Members of that
House. Se long as he had a place in that House lie
should raise his voice in defence of his countrymen,
when they were thus vilified and abased. The Right
Hum Gentleman had said that the observations of his
Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) were only fit fur a tailor to
make.—Hear, hear, and laughter.) He could easily
et-count for such language as this, coming front a Gen-
tleman, the novelty of whostaltnation might naturally
hurry bins into it. Res dares Regni soeitse. But he
cautioned him against attacking his Hee. Friend in fu-
ture in this way. With respect to what had been said
of the Common Council of London, he must observe
that that body bad only acted in unison with the rest of
the kingdom ; and they had acted in a manner worthy
of their great name. As to the Queen having repeated
on her death-bed pf the little advantage she had derived
from the people of England, lie mast observe, in oppo-
,sition to this expression, that she well knew what the
people of England had done for her; and it Was stated
'by Lord Liverpool, in-the House of Lords, that the pro-
secution against her was dropped in compliance with
the wishes of the people. But it was not expressed in
the Queen's will that her funeral should be private, and
when Ministers complied with that wish, why did they
not obey the injunction of the Queen as to the inscrip-
tion on her colon ? No, they only obeyed her last will
—it suited their own wishes. While the Queen lived
they made use of every opprobrious language towards
her, and would not allow any honour to be paid to her,
but after she died, they thought it was their duty to
take the charge of her funeral, which was not conducted
with the leastaprarance Of respect from beginning to
end. They employed bodies of troops, although a re-
spectable lady in attendance on liar Majesty bad begged
that no troops might be employed, yet they were most
unnecessarily employed ; and he trust observe, that it
Was not the guard of honour that was instrumental in
shedding blood on the day of the funeral. As to its
being said that the people resisted the law on the occa-
sion, there was no law opposed or broken, except by his
Majesty's Government, who, en every occasion, seemed
willing to accustom the people to military execution.—
Tbia appeared to be the wish of the Government
ever 11111 C• the riots is St. George's Fields. He
could himself state that there was no disposition to
riot on the 14th of August, until the Horse Guards
came gallopping through the park with drawn
• Asada. Is abort, the Goveirategat. etery occasion,
•s•-• 4e4oosi. ,twaggedtpeeridgal of the hem of hits Mileitts subjects.
He `—derefßiet that be had. heal nothing that could
justify the indecent haste with which the funeral had beam
conducted. He denied that thanityleaLlasized thogovera-
meet to have the funeral procession "go outof the way" to
gratify them; that body only calculated on its pursuing
the direct route. Had they desired that the funeral
procession of the Princess Charlotte, which had to pro-
ceed to Windsor, should pass through the City, then it
'might Lave been said that they requested the corpse to
be carried " out of the way." It was the Government,
and not the people, that bad desired to drag the Queen's
remains through bye ways and indirect roads. Thecon-
dnct of the people hail been much misrepresented. After
the proceeding at Tottenham-court-road, they bad coo-
ducted themselves in the moat peaceable manner. From
the conduct of the military, the people seemed to think
—and at tie moment lie was of the same opinion—that
-the scenes of Manchester were about to be renewed—that
they were to be ridden over and sabred—arid that, in
fact, they were to be exposed to military execution. The
motion had his approbation.
Mr. PEEL, in explanation, said belted not denied that
any portion of the populace was a part of the people of
England, but he thought the people of England ought
not to be identified with the criminal portion of the po-
pulace. The Hon. Member for Westminster had also im-
puted to him what might appear a coarse observation,
m the point of view is which lie had placed it. He bad
not intended to apply ahy ob tion offeosively to the
Member for Aberdeen, but be certainly did say, that
when the Hon. Member talked of a small saving of black
cloth, he seeded to regard the subject with a professional
eye.—(.l laugh.)
The Marquess of LONDON purr and Mr. Honnooss,
mutually explained.
Cul. CAVENDISH said, the observation of the Hon.
Member for Aberdeen appeared to insinuate that the
soldiers had attacked the people. The truth was that
they had been attacked by the people in the most out-
rageous Wanner. By the official returns, it appeared
tli it 37 of them hail been wounded ; nine of whom were
Lutitittett in the hospital some days, and one of them,
whose shoulder blade bad been fractured, had been
since discharged in consequence of this injury. The
Hon. Member for It esti:Muster had, on a former occa-
sion, spoken of soldiers as being entitled to the same
rights as citizens. He (the Colonel) therefore hoped
his Hdo. Friend would not deny their right to use their
arms in their own defence.—(tlear, hear.)
Sir ISAAt; COFFIN said be thought it was highly
discreditable on all occasions to rake up the ashes of
the dead. •
The Hon. W. LAMB said, be did not exclude any part
of the populace from the protection of that house. Ile
could not, however, allow those to be called the people
of England who oonducted themselves in so outrageous
a manner at the Queen's funeral, at the same time he
could out approve of the prudence of Ministers in direct-
ing the mate to be taken. Some gentlemen bad woken
as if the death of the Queen bad been occasioneddly the
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owed it solely to her cowing to this country.

Mr. DBNRAN was happy his Honourable Friend
had explained his former observation respecting the
people; an observation which he (Mr. yeoman) bad
beard with witch pain; fur its tendenct his opinion
was to place the people out of the pale of the law. Re-
specting the late Queen. he could only answer. that'
after the transactions at St. Omer's she would have sue.
rendered her honour bad she not courted inquiry. But
when it was recollected that the most atrocious libels
bed been circulated against her; that a Newspaper had
been set up expressly to calumniate her, and to threaten
females s lib worse than assassination if they visited her.
his lion. Friend might not be at a loss to ascertain Hurl
of her death. Withteference to the present goes-
tiou. lie Mimeo nothing could possibly hare been wore
provoking than the conduct of Government respecting
the funeral. He could see no good reason for opposing
the wishes of the people on that occasion ; but the op.
position to those wishes was too cousistent with the con-
duct which had been shown towards the Queen while
living. The violence of a people who were in gen:ral

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, orderly was, under so much excitement, scarcely Sees-
torsi. He condemned the conduct of Ministers towards
Sir Robert Baker. The first duty of a Magistrate was
to preserve the public peace; and In the present io-
, stance, it was evident that the orders of Government
could not h' carried into effect without bloodslytd
—But the Government were too prone, on all 'Cc&
lions, to employ the military. He was glad, to hear
the tone which had been observed from tte other
side of the Hooke ; and when he beard It said
that there was every desire to thew a becoming-respect'
to her Majesty's memory, and when be heard from the
Noble Marquess (though not in strict coeformity with the
rules of the House) that liis Majesty had received the
intelligence of the Queen's death in a manner which did
honour to his feelings, and haul directed ewers ceremo-
'nial of respect to be observed on the occasion, be con-
(rued that he was induced to pause on the language of
the present motion. lie thought the general conduct
of Government was any thing but honourable to them ;
yet after what he had heard, be thought they were
cleared from the charge of intentional disrespect to the
Queen's memory. The Noble Marquess had much mis-
taken the disposition of that illustrious woman ; she
had been driven to seek from the people that protection,
which bad beeo withheld her from that quarter to which,
she was entitled to look up for it. Had Milliliters com-'
plied with the wishes of the people there was every rea-
son to suppose (looking to their peaceablesooduct wheal
her Majesty went to St. Paul's) that-then would have
been no interruption of the public tranclidllity; and he
bad to regret that Ministers had caused the hominids,
of the present reign to be that which would be the most
stigmatised in the annals of English History.
The cries of " Question" being now very geberal,
strangers were ordered to withdraw, when
Mr. BENNET said he should not divide the Howse.
The motion was then pet and negatived.
Lord STANLEY, alluding.to a report which had ob-
tained geoeral circulation, wished to ask the Noble Mar-
quess *bother Government bail any lotted°s to reduce
the half-pay of Officers in the Army.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, the Officers
in the Army were perfectly safe as far as retarded the
intentions of Ministers. The report had probably ori-
ginated in the motion of the Hosea:able Member for
Aberdeen.--(A laugh.)
Lord STANLEY said, the Repott bad certainly not
originated in any thing done by the Hon. Member for
Aberdeen, but lie believed in something said by the
Noble Marquess himself ovt of the Hesse.

SUPPLY.
Lord PALMEItSTON moved the Order of the Day
for the house resolving itself into a Committee of
Supply.
Colonel Davnts, Mr. BERNAL, Mr. HUMS, and other
Members, objected to the Motion on account of the late-
ness of the hour.
The SPEAKER then put the citation upon the Order
of the Day ; and the Houseib‘pediately divided. who,
there appeared—For the blotioo, 1111—. Against It, 211.4
Majority. 88.
A secoad division ensued upon the question fir piss
Ito a Committee of Snpply. The umbers were--411/
the Speaker leaving 'the Chair, 118—Against it,
Majority, 97.
On the opening of the Gallery we loud the Huse in
Committee.
The sum of 233,2391. having been propod to &fray
various charges incurred by the Laid forces,
Mr. littlervolit. bireletallamaisdlitiouramirlielt

Lad !educed lloodetiins W wrist gisterilo:der
Committee. It was not his mist
in the way of tk• polio kolldrati bit lot Per
sent to vote away thousands at iltel lake Be was
'desirous of calling the attention of the 'willies to
one or two points. The itoamtrabio BlemeAr. Oben ob-
jected to the items of expens• for ittotyototbiner and
allowances for supernumerary men. Iletsom of 11000/.
allowed for the table at St. James's, for 0601,1 if the
Life and Foot Guards, was quite ism:mildest witbavery
principle of economy. The copy of the bill of fare for
the Officers, as given in the bib Report of thiiCeemois-
sioners, contained the following particolars:—A break-
fast is provided at two different times, consisting of
coffee, tea, rolls, and cold meats. Dinners are aloopro-
vided for sixteen persons with the best fish, four courses.
Four dishes of roasted poultry, thirteen dishes of con-
fectionery, with olives and other articles of dessert.
Wines of all aorta; Port, Madeira, and Claret without
What a statement was this for Ike country
Gentlemen, and yet they were called epos to gnat the
sum at twelve o'clock —(l.aughter.)---Tlsis was not all,
a regular suer was allowed. Mr. Hume was going oa
with his objections, when several Mmabps loudly ex-
claimed Adjourn; he therefore moved im Chairman
should report progress and ask leave to sit again. .
Lord PALMERSTON said ' be should sot contend
against adjournment, but at the .time time he wished to
remind theComuiletee of the goou old proverb aedi al-
tenon portent. After the Hon. Oestlerean jillgone into
his statement, it was but fair he cLord Imerston)
should be beard. With regard Olathe 7 able of the Guards,
the Hon. Gentleman had bees very entertaioing. It
was rather tantalising to give such a bill of fare. If
the bill of fare should not be so econoinicki as that to
which the lion. Member alluded, he would doubtless
give the Committee the benefit of his discovery, in the
way of reform and retrenchoseut. His Lordship then
noticed the several other remarks the Rho. Member bad
made.
The cry of adjourn was again raised.
Colonel HARIHNUE maintained that the allowances
for the officerg of the Guards was not too mob.
- Colonel DAVIES bore testimony to the accuracy of
the statement of the Noble Lord and his Gallant Friend.
After a few other observations between Lord Palmer-
ston. Colonel Davies, Mr. Holalsouse. sod S&L Willa's.'
the Chairman reported progress, and obtained lewd to
sit again on Friday.
The House then adjourned at one o'clock.
OLD BAILEY.
Yesterday John Payater stood indicted for wilful and
corrupt perjury, in having sworn falsely is the Court of
Common Pleas relative to the delivery of a parcel, con-
taiiiing notes to the amount of at Russell's Wag-
gon Office, which he bad received from a clerk is the
house of Sir John Perring and Co.
Mr. WALPORD opened the case for the prosecution.
The facts were detailed some time Sill!e in our Report
of the trial, which took place in the Coen of Common
Pleas.
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M r. ALUM was for the prisoner.
The Compton S • • T summed up the evidence, and
the Jury, baying retired for upwards of so hour and a
half, on their return found the prisoner—Oni/ty.
This Morning the Court met pursuant* adjournment,
when Nightingale, who had given evideace oil the
trial above referred to, io the Court of Common
and who was out on bail, was called, but not appearing,
the Common Serjeant ordered his Rec.ogoisanees to be
est reated.
John Pay:WY., who was yesterday convicted of wilful
and corrupt perjury, was thou put to the• bar to receive
judgment, when the Common SIIIKJUNT, having ad-
dressed him an the nature of his offset.% sentenced bins
to be transported for seven years.
The Prisoner, who is a very respectable looking man,
was then removed from the Hai, declariag. in the most
solemn manes:, his liniments of the crime larded to
him.

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