The Statesman.
London, England, 1809-12-13 00:00:00

TH V, StraT ItS MAN.

Q. Theereesott ,our Nateeises wise sot called
was, your Counsel were satisfied the thing world
di, without? A. I have said what I know.

The ATIVINEY GENIMAL then read part of the
letter " To the People of the United Kingdom."
Q. Well, Sir, after you had been apprized of
what hail been sworn and had your witnesses there
to contradict it; I want to know ,how you could
afterwards swear that the evidence at the trial of
this cause took " the deponent completely by
" surprise, and therefore he had not an opportu.
" nity of defending, &c.?" A. I was taken by
snrprize—(Attorney General, 41 I molly am nut
of that opinion")—because I could not tell what
falsehoods would be sworn.

Q. Did you know Mrs. Clarke would prove
the case. lied you any doubt of it? A. I reAlly
had a doubt whether you mould Denture to call
her or not.

Q. Hid you not got your witnesses to contra-
dict her ? A. I had only Major Dodd.
Q. Was he not there to contradict her ? •AR
No. But as a witness to contradict any thing that
might be sworn against me. Lie was subpeseed,
as having been with me at the upholsterer's.
Q. In the ctrly part of the examination you
stated neither Mr. Glenny nor Mr. Illingworth
were subpcenaed ? A. I brlieve that what I stated
is the fact, that only Major Dodd was subpoenaed.
They were there, and I was frequently with them.
Q. Yon never gave Mrs. Clarke any money ?
A. I did.

Q. What money did you give her ? A. I gave
her before we went to see the Martelto Towers.
the said if I would give her money to pay her
butcher and •ier baker, she Would go with us ;
and prior to our going, I gave her 1001.
Q. When did you set out for the Martell°
Toweil.? A. On the 27th of November.

Q. Having been introduced to her on the 13th
of November, you, do the 27th of November,
gave leer 1001. ? A. I did. I gave her 201. after
Came back. To the hest of my recollection, I
never gave her any more, unless it might be a
very small bunt.
Q. You have subpoenaed Mr. Serjeaot Best—
you know it 1• A. I believe it. •
Q. As you arc not a lawyer, you could not ex.
plain the mode of getting rid of the verdict. Let
me ask you whether the evidence given was with
the motive of getting rid of the verdict I A. Nu,
that it was not. •

Q. flow long were you in the service of the
Kiwi ? A. About live years.
Q. When the regiment was raised you became
an Officer, and continued till discharged ? A. 1
did.

Q. Ilow• long have you been acquainted with
Major Dodd ? A. Some time in the summer or
the he4inning.of the autumn of last year.
Q. Was the visit to tha Marsello 'rowers in.
tcnd'•d I►rerioui to yoer acquaintance with Mrs.
Clarke ? A. It was.

Q. As yow have made wise of the memorable cx.
pressiins of Major Dodd being an " unfortunate
friend," what situation was ho ? A. He had,
I believe, a lucrative app.,intment.
ATT(fILNET.GENIERALI must eaamine you ■s
to that again—
(Lord EL‘arinotteuott interfered, deeming that
inquiry irrelevant to the subject.)
ArroaNcr-CiattesAt..—A.4 Mrs. Clarke was
"olle• of' the party, you advanced her 1001. In
what way was it advanced ? A. She told me she
was ready to go? if I would pay her butcher and
baker's- bills.• I toll her that on condition she
'millil bring her papers,' I would do it ; and be-
fore ire Went I advanced two sums to the amount
of 1001.

'Q. Who is in possession of the letter written to
quiet Mrs. Ciarke's mind; where is it? A. In
the possession of Mrs. Clarke.
Q. Was the negociation with Mr. Illingworth
contrivance fdr . the purpose of concealing it
ft4m the Public ? A. Nothing of the kind.
Q. You attended here at the trial ? A. Yes ;
sometimes in the hall, and sometimes in the hotel.
Q. During the trial, had you personal com-rus
nication with your Counsel ? A. No ; it was
through the'communication of Mr. Cortield.
Q. What persons were present when that note
was given ? A. Mr. John 'Wright; he is here.
Mr. ATTORNEY-C.; za.u.....That question you
cannot ask— •
Lord ELLENNOROUGU..--YOU may ask Mr.
Corfield whether he received any such note—
ATTORNEY.GENERAL.---I wish for Mr. War-
dle to explain all the facts that took place—
Lord ELLE:4II3I,IIOOGH.---He says he wrote a
note—and there the examination stopped ; be-
cause the note is not produced.
ATTORNST.GENER4L...-Q. Will you give me
leave to ask to whom that suppovcd note was deli.
eared ? A. I ran into Westminster-hall, and gave
it to a person; I cannot tell to whom ; I believe
Mr. M'Callani. The note, I believe, was given
by me to Mr. M'Callam.
Lord ELLansoaounu....Q. You said the con-
trivance of the note to Mr. Illingworth was nut
with a view to selrecy ?...What was the motive,
when one might hats done ? A. Pecansc I did
net wish to make myself answerable for the debt.
Q. Do you think it was material whether it was
done immediately, or intermediately ? A. Yes,
because I should have had no claim on Mrs.
Clarke.

Q. Could you not have taken a nnte directly to
Mr. Wright, and have taken a note from her ?
A. If she hall had the ability to pay it, I think
she would have paid it.
Q. Well, if you don't fuel it to be a concealment
—you say 1001. was all you gave her—and 201.
more ? A. That is all.
Q. Did you make her any, and what promiges ?
A. I told her, if she would be a steady friend to
the Public, they would be steady friends to her.
Q. You made no other promise? A. None,
my Lord—l made her none.
Q. Did Mrs. Clarke know that yen and Major
Dodd were-counter-securities to Mr. Illingwerth?
A. -She eever.did till atter the Investigation.