The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-05-08 00:00:00

MAD EXPiNSZ.

Mr. HUME said, they had heard a good deal of late
about the 5,000,000/. of dead expense. He appre-
hended there would be no objection to a Motion for
a Return to 'Mew how that amount was made up.—
Ordered.
A Message from the Lords announced that their Lord-
ships had agreed to several private Bills.
PUBLIC DEFAULTERS.
Mr. HUME said, be had on a former occasion moved
for a return of the names of all public defaulters within
a certain number of years, and he wished to know from
the Hon. Secretary for the Treasury, whether the returns
were likely soon to be upon the table.
Mr. LUSHISOTON riid, that these returns were so
extensive In their nature, that it was impossible to say
when they would be ready.
LL-TREATMESTOT CATTLE.

Mr. R. MARTIN obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
prevent the ill-treatment of cattle.
Mr. G. H. DI NNET asked when the Superannuation
List was likely to come before the House.
Mr. LUSHINGTON said, that subjects of so much
greater importance had occupied the time of the House,
and still continned to do so, that it was quite impossible
to say, when the Bill of his Right Hon. Friend would
be before them.
Mr. WELLS presented two Petitions from the county
of Kent, praying the House not to adopt the proposition
of the Hon. Member for Portarlington, with reiv•ct to
the admission of foreign cora into the worker.—Order-,
ed to lie on the table.
Mr. GRENFELL said, that as the Chancellor of the
Exchequer was not in his place, and the usual time of
commencing public business had past, be should pro-
ceed to submit his motion upon the subject of the Mono.
poly of the Bank of England. If the removal of that
monopoly in a part of the country not within sixty-five
miles of London was a benefit conferred upon that part
of the country, why was that benefit to be withheld
from London nod its vicinity i He considered that mo-
nopoly to be as complete a robbery upon the public as
ever existed, and he should oppose the ',Name for ex-

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roneent to the inotioo of the Hop. blespber. .
Mr. falAtiEßKVldtiniea- witetlier 'the 'loose wee to
e cootioard in the pd Attogh.ish gave the Bank_the
power of going Itito"the public tqtrket to deal ip. A -
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he in the BilL 'fiwasetion was then agreed to. '
ComtvLso VW.
Mr. HUME seeing the Noble-31311nm, had entered
the. House, wooldiaddress a few' Observations to him
heroic submitting the notion of Which be had given
iflict,. The Hon. Member theOrroceeiled to remark
upon the Cohsular Pees paid by ships to the represcu-
tatiies of this country it foreign ports. He comphtiaed.
orate fees being mach higher paid .ili British .Consuls
than to those of other nations. I n 1792, the amount
iaid to,British Consuls was 10,000/4Q:ow it was 30,000/-
tort in increase of three-fold. Hd understood this sub-
ice to be under the consideration of'shit Government,
and he hoped the system would nndergp a revision. He
understood that sufficient care was
.noceneeised in ap-,
pointing persons of clear character to these offices. Ho
knew there were eases in which they had been obliged
to leave the places where they bad been appointed, to
reside, in conseqrence of their extravagant conduct-
is not only injurious to the duties which they.'r
ight to perform, but it elso created an unfavourable,
Impression against the'nation4l character. He thought
that • prober opportunity should be given for these '
matters to be folly considered by the House. Many of
the Consular offices were paid al. in extraragant rate,
and some were altogether useless, He "saw no use in
Wing a Coosol-General at Paris, The duties for which
thin office was kept op might be done by the Secretary
Of the Ambassaddr. He understood that the office of
Consul-General was only open from eleven o'clock to
One. As there would be no opposition to the motion, he
trusted that the subject would be duly taken into con-
sideration by the Government. The Hon. Member then
moved,. " That an humble Address be presented to his
Majesty, praying that he will order a return of copies
of the table or rite of fees, and every kind of charge
paid to:Consuls-General, Consuls, and Vice-Consuls, in
the years 1792 acid 1821, stating upoo what authority
64 were &emended. Also what COmuls and Vice-Coo-
ties bad been absent from then situations since the year
1913."
ill The Marquess of LONbONDERRY said he should.
tltnost happy to give thd Honourable Member every
formation lb his power. The subject was a very em-,
Oirtant and neer), tilfficalt one. It was extremely desi-
table.that an equalised system of fees all over the world
ehrituld be established, abd one which should rednce
theta to the loosest possible rate. Indeed it wits desire-
lii that salaries should be substituted, and that there
ilibald be no fee, at ell. The whole subject was under
eddilderation, and he hoped that an Act of Parliament
would be obtained for remedying the defects of the system.
Enron a former 'occasion the Consul-General of the Bra-
pile, Mr. Chambertain,'had been mentioned by the Hon.
Member, and he hoped that an opportunity would soon
tome when he may have the means of correcting an ha-
r' ression which was certainly erroneous. He agreed
hat the profits of Mr..Chatiberlaies Consulship were
arge, but there were circtimstances that warranted their
being so. Instead of 90001. a year, however, as the
Hon. Member had stated his income to be, it would be
found not to have exceeded one-fifth more of the ge
allowances to such offices in other plans. AU the ar-
rangements that had been made with regard to the fees
paid to Mr. Chamberlain, were made with the concur-
rence of the merchants. The expenses of being in the
Brazils, formed another reason of the high allowance
to the Consul Grneral.—At the present time the quartern
loaf cost 3s. lid. and house-rent was at from three to five
hundred a-year. Mr. Chamberlain had also been
charged with other ditties, besides those of his Consul.
ship. When Lord Straogford came over in 1917, he was
left as Charge d'Affaires, and administered the duties of
that office in a tanner the most creditable to himself.
He afterwards came to London suffering from ill health,
and was extremely anxious to take a Consul-Generalship
in any part of Europe instead of returning, without any
reference to the difference of emolument which he would
receive. At the desire of the merchants in London, he
did go out again, and his allowances remained as they
were. Provisions had been wade to limit the income in
respect to any new holder of the office, but to Mr. Chem.
berlain it was contended that it should be continued as
it was. The Noble Marquess repeated his wish to afford
information upon the general question, and his consent
to the motion.
Mr. ROBINSON assured the Hon. Member for Aber-
deen and the House, that there was no subject more dif-
ficult of consideration than that relating to Consular
Fees. It was, undoubtedly, advisable to find a better
system of management, including, of course, a diminu-
tion of the number of Consuls, and the payment of those
who remained by fixed salaries, which would enable
diem to sustain their rank in society with respectability.
If the Hon. Member for Aberdeen had the settlement of
these matter, he would find it a difficult task.—(A
laugh.)—He trusted, however, that it might be accom-
plished without the imposing of any additional burden
upon trade.—(Hear, hear.)—He distinctly meant, with-
out any additional burden. The question for consider-
ation would then be, where the sum was to be found to
make up the difference between the present amount of
salary, and the whole profits of the Consuls, including
their tees? The present salaries were charged upon the-
Civil List, Whether the difference should be made up
by a moderate tonnage upon vessels, ar some other
charge of a similar nature would be open for discussion;
but be repeated his assurance to the House that the sub-
ject was under consideration.
Mr. ELLICE, in consequence of the last observation
of the Right Hon. Gentleman, could not forbear enter-
ing his protest against the idea of imposing any addition-
al charge upon navigation.
The motion was then agreed to.
Mr. HUME then moved for a return of the number
and names of the several Consuls who were absent from
their places to which they were appointed since the veer
I el 5. He could by no means agree to the data which
had been assumed by the Noble Marquess. With respect
to the conduct of Mr. Chamberlaine in particular, he
would only just remark, that out of 79 merchants who
belonged to the place of his appointment, 72 bad joined
in a petition complaining of is conduct. This gentle-
man bad received 30,0001. in seven years from one port
alone, besides his salary of 500/. a-year. He (Mr. H.)
really thought that unless Ambassadors were to live
like kings, and Consuls like Ambassadors, each an ex-
pense as this was altogether unjustifiable. At New-
burgh Mr. Mellish, the Consul, was in the receipt on an
average of 3,00/. a-year, besides the SOW. he received
from the Civil List as Consul, and 5001. from the same
source as Charge d'Affaires. AtVenice the Consul was in
the receipt of 1,01101.a-yearodthougb them wereperhaps,
scarcely a dozen English merchant ships which entered
that port in the course of the year. The Right Honour-
able Gentleman talked of altering the system without
any additional expense to the trading interest; het be
(Slr. Hume) wished to get the present expense red
without reference to the quarter upon which it ma
charged. , . ,
Sir R. WILSON made a few observations wilelleamo
clid not distinctly hear, respeettwg the Consular &tab-
I Hallman at the Brazils. • • •

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We motion was alined tt
In ULTIJRA L
if I ETON presented's eth
ry, Justices of the Peace
fy of_tim taluitpd LauszL _ _
DistressJind ppyinj for Relief. The.
park a the kingasposi the Noble Lord

dote. pruprik **APO. extended to
and Grailer IPaintitL• The Petitioavet stated

iiommis-

o Stock
gat they

but he thought that Aiken they' name to know of the
proceedings in the Mose leaf night, that confidence
would he conekderablY•hi"PakZd•
.. Mr. 31.1XWELL quid he paid support the tweet
rate of Imperil pnty,. because hp conceived that reelec-
tion of taxation was the prin4pal,if ,tot the only source
to which the country could leekfor
Mr. J. j Ilk h l concurred in.rise Mattes/at of the
Noble Lord, that the distress.was not coufieed to the
Agricultueists,
Mr. HUNTga:.IILAI that the distress
amoog the ,Agriceltraral chwees, was very extensive. bet
he though; it weals) be- attributed .to a superabmodance
of prodnce- • .* • '
Colour! TRENCH said tbediStress was general. He
could not forbear calling the attention of the House to
the situation of Ireland, where ;be people were reduced
almost to a state of starvation. , This was particularly,
within his knowledge as to theCoastieeof Clare, Mayo,
and Galway, and the Queen's Coenty. A meeting had
been held to-day by several relpectable and benevolent
individuals far the purpose of relieving the unhappy
sufferers; and he, trusted this laudeble example would
be followed; hat be was sorry to olseerve, that in that
House timeworn had been suggested, the tendency of
Which was to aggravate the •liseasti.
Mr. 11. DRUMMOND spoke in favour of the Petition.
The lion. Member made some observations respecting
the Scottish Union, which we did not distinctly bear.
They, however, called forth some observations irons Sir
Joan NittreeeT, who referred to the Irish Union, the
article of which, he said, be should be sorry to see ex-
tended. We believe the subject of the remarks of the
two last Honourable Memleers was npoo the compa-
retire claims 9f Ireland and Scotland respecting the
Distillation laws.
The Petition was then ordered to lie on the table, and
be printed.
Lord A. HAMILTON then presented another Peti-
Goo from the Growers of Barley of the Comity of La-
nark, also complaining of Agricultural Distress, and
praying for rialief.—Ordered to lie on the table, and be
printed. • •
Mr. WALLACE postponed isie motion for tbe second
reading pg the Navigation Bill, peal Monday, the 20th
Thar emend reading of the Warehousing Bill was post-
poned 001,1 Monday next.
• AGRICULTURAL REPORT.
The Magness of LONDONDERRY moved the Or-
der of the Day for the House resolving itself into a peen-
mittee to consider the Report of the Agricultural Com-
mittee.
On the'questien being put that the Speaker should
leave the Cbair-:--
Mr. CURWEN inquired whether it was purposed
to considir the main question respecting the scale of
duty before the consideration of any other of the Reser,
lutioes. •
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY answered,. that
he certainly thought it was advisable to come to a prac-
tical vote as to the scale of duty before the proceeding to
any other qeeition. He would suggest the taking the
higher mate of duty first. He Mould for that purpose'
be happy to give way to the Hon. Member for Sorer-
setshire (Sir T. Lethbridge). The next proposition op
that subject might be that of the Hon. Member for
Wiltshire (Mr. Benet); and be believed they would
then come to the Hon. Member for Portarlington (Mr.
Ricardo.)—(A laugh.)—lt would be better to take the
40s. duty first, which was undoubtedly the simplest.—
(Laughter.)
Mr. J. P. GRANT wished to know whether the revo-
lution to authorise the grinding of foreign corn would
be hrongbt forward or not.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said it ter
taioly would. It was merely postponed for the present.
Mr. HUSKISSON wished it to be understood that by
taking a part in the discussion as to protecting duties,
ke did not givenp his opinion on the propriety of encou-
raging a free trade.
Lord A. HAMILTON said, that when the NobleMar-
guess brought forward his proposition last night,he(Lord
A.) considered it as a bona fide Resolution' and that
the Noble Marquess was in earnest. He never
could have believed that the Noble Marquess
would have made such a speech as Ilk efid
in the outset of the present subject if he intended af-
terwards to bring forward a Resolution which he
self could not recommend. The system of .discussion
which had been adopted 'was such as if it were applied
teeny proceeding oat of Parliament he should not, besi-
tate to call a humbug.—(A laugh.) Thep/moons who bed
petitioned the House could not but consider the whole of
the proceedings es aumekery upon their distress. In-
deed, the House bad not yet Igen told by the Chairman
of the Agricultural Committee whether he approved or
disapproved of the Report he bad himself brought up.
Mr. GOOCH said, that being thus called upon, he
could not forbear stating that when the Report had been
agreed upon. the Hon. Member (Sir E. Knatchball).'
asked him whether he intended to move for leave to,
bring in any Bill on the basis of the Report; and ,that
in substance be answered that so importeat a subject
ought to be introduced to the notice of the House by his
Majesty's Ministers, and not by so humble an individual
as himself. The,Noble Marquess had then offered
bring the matter before the Bosse, and his offer bad bees
accepted.
A conversation then foltowea-between Mr. J. BEN'ITT,
the Marquees of Lonnoratiltaiti, and Mr. LOCKIIaRT, as
to the mode of taking the opinipn of the House (whenit
should have gone into a Committee) on the proposed
scale of import duty.
Mr. ATTWOOD thee addressed the hoaasond.mende
derable length, contending that these partial &sear
'ions tended to lessee the character of the house. lie.
submitted that the whole question r g our dies
trees, ought to be folly gone .into. Agricultad
Committee had put forth the mast obsess. sod . tame
sistent opinions; and their Report be, thaeulhumetimpht
ought not to beamed@ she basis of the preeredhugaialf
the house. The distress of the cowry he cosaidpeall
attributable to the weight of taxation co-operatteg id*
the measures affecting the currency. And yet they were
told that they must abandon the laud, not the taxes.—
(Hear.)—Taxation upon agriculture had nearly doubled,
and what then was the situation of the individual who
had to pay in fallen prices an augmented taxation? The
prices bad fallen every one knew. but not the taxes.
What had become of the argument that Agriculturists
would not boarish if the taxes were rernevt4? Wbat be.
client of the theory of the Hon. Member for Portarlinr
ton about 10 per cent., being the only extent of the de-
preciation in consequence of the change in.the standard
of currency? They. had bees employed the last eight
years is effecting a change ia the standard of•thn .value
of limey. and during that. period they hed-oenttereddm
raugeetut and distraction. throughout titeeesaliep... le
the mist of thin deatrectiaa,they wars tatted ..upet. :to
consider what was the effestaf ,this
it affected those who paid it

ftles coo
:c -r,

afagricaltural produce frog the pressure of tax46.l
bad doubled ; and if any part of this bad been p
redeeed
by the change in the value of money, consequent on the
alteration of the standard. These were the questing
they were called upon to mosider at the time they w
ee
.suffering from the weight of taxation, the Properties of
which they were inquiring into. He could not agree
with the lion. Member for Portarliagtoa in his opisioas
oUlse infallibility -of gold as a. easadaaL theogbt
it was subject to as many fluctutioos as other c
oauao-
tlities. He knew of a variation at different times to the
wok of -40 and 40 per met.. at the same time that core
was not subject to any each materiel changes, Ti,
Hun. Gentleman made some sestet:tents in support ef It
position, which from the low to df voice in whit*
they were delivered toe were unable tithear. The RM.
Member concluded by observing, the the attempt to re.
store the prices to what they were before the introsim
Non of piper money was ridiculats.
Mr. RICARDO said he had beard with arlioiratiei
the speech of the Honourable Member a Ito had just mt
down; but although he possessed great talent, aid
spoke with e full knowledge of Iris subject, he ho
committed many errors. He seemed to speak as though
he (Mr. IL) bad always been a Intoner ,of paper Mr-
Culatiou ; as if he had nut foreseen the evils of a ese.
fancy subject to no role, and liable to be increased as
the pleasure of the Bank. Bat the' lionouroble Gentle-
man was- misled by what be had read on the subject of
remunerating prices. Why it was no difference to the
farmer whether lie was paid in one cummy or another,
provided •he received a reinaneratiog rice. He bail
cir
ith I.:ok°t eat ntei soon a oil 1 u Ite kva sa
tuhheeo uu
needs though he
ut
only Yw talis
that
if badwe
e t rot 44
41
sr: taken
what fur
I be le
the
said in 1819. It was true that a greater depreciation et
currency than heel existed previously to 1119, prevailed
at that moment; but for-that lie was not auvxeraY..
Ile comidered that this was attribetohle to the measures
which preceded that period, nut to any thing isbidi he
did or said. lie would not undertake to say hoar grrit
the alteration hod been, but lie believed it had not been
more than ten per cent. Many of the 110.0orAbk um.
tleman's errors arose from Isis mistaking the meaning
of the term depreciation. A Currency Sias depretdated
when it idol below the standard by which its value was
regulated. It was true that a standard might rise, and
a paper money also; hut Vit did not rise -o tomb as the
standard, it was depreciated. But if the Honourable
Gentleman could thew that the value of gold had fini •
tuated to the amount of forty and fifty per cent. he
would be copteuted to give pp the whole .a.-gumeat tat
him. Tint Honourable Gentleman asked why they
should not make corn their standard as well as gold r
He confessed he knew no better reason than that gold
had 'Nulty' been our standard. lint did the Honour.
able .Gentleman eerloosly mean to contend Olt corn
ought to be our standaid, and that the Bank
rectors, instead of giving gold in exchange for their
notes, should give so many quarter; of corn?—
The Hoe. Gentleman .seeesed to nese u though be
(Mr. Ricardo) Wan in •favosr of taxa:ion. He knew,
and had always said, that the weight of taxation mom
affect him out of whose pocket it was tarn. But thee
with regard to the agriculturist, were not the narrehant
and the mauttfaetnet subjected to, and affetted in the
same way ?. If taxes were imposed upon the production
of corn, It o'ould be increased in price, hut it was pos-
sible to tax a country without its being felt, by raising
the value of the currency in proportion. The Honour-
able Gentleman talked of these being 'deism' to abandon
the land. He, for one, certainly would advise all pel-
otas& te leave off colti rating land which did not return
them remunerating prices. He was sat.afieJ of his prin-
ciple,. He considered them inreinerabie, sk.honeh hr
aught not have the Went of the Hon. Membec who
spoke last to illustrate them.
Mtn i few words from Mr. ATTWOOD in explanation.
the Home resolved itself into a Committee.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY rose, and said
that be thought it would be more for the general hate-
rests of the montry, if Hon. lientletueo confined them-
selves to some practical view of the subject, and not
wander into extraneous questions—(Hear, hear.)—The
great interests of the country would be sacrificed by tn•
veiling from the propositions which were subjected to
the consideration of the House. He thought the lion.
Member (Mr. Attwood) ought to have reserved himself
for the question which the Hon. Member for Essex was
to bring before the House. He (Mr. Attwousl) ad wetted to
the bullion question, which brow:lit forward the lion.
Member forPortarlingtoo, the gladiator on that snh-
hect. He would take a more Relined 6.4 d, and confine
imself to a narrower view of the subject, with a
hope of effecting some practical good for the coun-
try. He believed they were all agreed that some-
tiling ought to be done to regulate the importation
of core, by a duty. Not less than fire plans had been
submitted, all of them endeavouring to nista at some
change in the existing system. But be now wished to
comas to the three principal questions which he had to
offer to the consideration of the Committee. The first
was as to the precise point at which the ports should be
opened. The maximum now fixed was 80s. but alien
the price rose to that amount, the ports, by the existing
law, were opened, without say regulation whatever.—
With exception of the Hoe. Member for Somerset-
shire (Sir T.lothbridge), and the Hon. Member for
Wiltshire (Mr. Bonen) who had proposed two resA.
'Minns in opposition to the principle, they were all
agreed that there ought to be some corresponding re-
laxation of the price at which foreign co: is should be im-
ported. lie was fat from thinking that distress arose from
want of sufficient protection. for he well knew that pro-
tection could not glee prices. In his opinion, the pore
even of JIM. was In itself a prohibition in ordinary
years. He would now advert to the two resolutions
proposed by the Hon. Welber for Pertarlington (Mr.
Ricardo) and his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Hashisson).
The former proposed that foreign corn'should be name-
ted on a general principle, when the price rose to ;0, ;
bat wares
house,t b st
at a
aprior i entryc o cus h.o. u
andldbet
hgaitee ifn to
price
should rise to hOs., then t'hat foreign corn should be let
in, subject to a duty. He had himself proposed that the
subject to a duty of 214..
wpoashs,houisl (addingbe orogeed.. enclik ieit
here), would nuke the charge 305., and the whole
amount 95s.—a price that, he thought, would be a coos-
the efixsipense of bringing the corn
pine protection. However, before aey thing practical
was decided upon, üblic opinion was to he consalted.—
He knew that an idea prevailed among a great body of
the agriculturists, that it would not be expedient toopen
the ports before the price rose to 80a. But he frit no
alarm at the proposition of the Hun. Member for Por.
tarlington, or that of his Right Hon. Friend ; for if the
daty was to be of an operative character, it was better
to begin early Unto wait till a glut of foreign corn was
thrown into the market. However, he did not himself
Pupas@ may alteration of the price at o hick foreign
MO should be admitted. Yet, as there was a great
mass of. foreign corn new in the warehouse-,
Ire
thought it would be 'driveable to allow it to be
brought into market wean than the law, as it now
stood; permitted. Up** this point, however, the Numer-
able Member for Somersetehlre. and the Homerable
Member for Wiltshire, were very !minion, opposing the
admission till the price rose to tills except In the 'lee of
Wes which bad bee. in Warehoeses for a entails tire.
Now, wltisrespeot to the male of duty, the-Hon. Mem-
ber for Somereetshire pro osed 405., which he e
wards dieted to, reduce top 3.55.; bat he might as
himr sidd that we should Nat baste any iamb/Mies et
:71i
foreign corn at all, unless therioe could be anoaturally
foidesi op, for a "duty df 05e., with the addition of 101.,

Importation, would amount to antidtuar
It would be sprite impossible that the fo-
mild ever "apply us upon mach terms. If
net "apposed that an expense. of 4lis.could
an article that already cost &ht. in the
ipposed a Inmate that, if carried, could
trek. He would ask if the House would.
Hill in one sitting? He could not eon•
don greater thaw to sanction loth • vis-
ite proposition of the Hoe. Member for
kratal,k so mach of the nature of the ether
wno means agree I. it. The
duly of 215., which, with the 10s. added,
charge Intinstely too high to remain's!'
the price rose to Wk. This, likewise,
*thing short of a direct prohibition, and
ilmitteol eve a emeriti principle. Looking
non of the lion. Member for Porterling-
that it was for having a freed duty always
red that it should he reeulated on a toed.-
iis proposition differed from that of Ida,
bond, inasmuch a. his Right lien. PrialMll
Iris duty of 15s. not timed in all cases, lilt
Lion wonting to ciernmstatseea. It ft
▪ Hon. kletnher for POrtarlitigton so
le Honourable Member for Somersetslabi
erahle •klemher for Wiltshire, es to pm-
deed dety should be reminded "noel
ices of the market. lint he (the Mae-
idonderry) would contend that it was
have a fixed duty after the prices
'a height; and he trunk, sot hesitate td
his own views of the question, he should
lute, without-any impost price at ell. It
r that. in the present nunesnral stet, of
il duty meld be adopted, for it most he
i referent., no the price In the market,
a nut. to be taken as a standard for usali.
le could wish that the house were to gel
eletity of the law with respect to the are-
a eas not' the time fir makinz the rape-
:lc opinion cats against it. !low could he
eto try it who were against lowering the
i front nits, to ph.. the quarter? If he
,went bring himself to believe that it
or penitent to a4opt the propositions of
le Member tor hettiersetshire, or that of
le Membeetats Wiltshire, he should readily
o supports hat he found that bons ware, at
a every erinriele of aimed policy. He
ronsider the more tuaderite duty proposed
intl., thin of 125.; and be might be allow-
alias must be its effects, if there was no
duty till the price rose to Sue., the market
Is. The duty of 150., as proposed by his
Friend, %%lilt the 10s. addition, world
e of 25e. ; and supposing the, price of 90s.
255. taken from it wonid leave 655, to the
tar. It was Then to be considered what
lire wonlii be thrown into the market by
dos. Tht rain eof corn-en the Centieent
Ll.Lic the standard of former years; sad
II to certain an error into which some pee-
leJ respecting a statement of hie on this
:A never denied that corn might he brought
try at apis.the gnat:et, (or cora %vas now
measure, &preadult all over the world, and
it might he gat. out of our own ware-
.: but it was to be observed that this was
rating price, and kiwis !aline, prospectively,
matural hat.i natural state of things, the
I not take it as standard. ffe had said
'rig to eke propositioss of his Right MO;
oisAfaeorter stoeld:have h clear [stye cif
fThAlWervittat ilea "city grin n nottild
r market. It woe) ;certainly bring in all
is u arehouses. utlifn •t present was an its.
ty, thenght aims a risk that ought
I in an unnatural stateof the. market. •A
obi certainly be very desirable; but it was
inciled•to the pries in this country, whioh
roe influeaced by that on the Continent. An'
ignoeorn must inverlably keep the market
e knew of no remedy against the effect of
bat 'to Like, in aid of duty, an import
as Willing to allow that it,might he advis-
e priecipli- of an import price could be get,
her, hut at present that was quite impair
ioble Marquess, after recapitulating some
arguments upon this point,thee proceeded
:tracts from the Report of the Agricaltn-
e of loon veer, with the view of showing
he Committee thought a fitted duty advisee
Rid not be adopted in the circumstances of
air could any thing more be effected than a
)(the existing law sailed to the necessity of
The comnuttee said that we bad not at
state of things in which a sound end per-
finis could he adopte.: with respect to the
Ili' 'own opinion certainly was, that no ,
on bad taken place since last year, as would
ewperimeot being now made. He had no
er that if we avers in a natural state of
rupositioa of iais Right Hon. Friend might
.ith great advantage; but as the circum-
is country now stood, it did not appear to
Ent security. He knew that there were
shed; if possible, to get rid of the Corn
sie measure %%Lich should be conclusive.—
ere was certainly very desirable, but be
d that this was not the time for carrying it
All parties were anxious to come to some
the Ilompiember for Portarlington evinces!
position to accommodate as could be ra-
in individual tenacious of a particular prim
rer, that Hun. hi ember propoaeol two eo,tits
eh appeared incompatible with each other.
bought that the House could not do better,
a useasnre of adespate precaution suited to
of the present times. The proposition
Isimaelf submitted to the Committee, be
slated to rpru a wore ample field to com-
bat whirls they finally agreed to; but as
▪ preferred, he thought it proper to ac-
e Committee proposed a duty of 12.. with
lion of 3.. for warehousing. Having offer•
rvations as to his own views of the subject,
w submit the proposition of the Committee
and he hoped that a difference of two or
gs ip tie scheme of ditty proposed on a
it, lotaid not have the effect of eutharrass-
Ise *Air oleeioli ng on so important a ques-
waglotkiiig which was inure to he depre-
spgrieete.: protection, and anv impression
tvaa ealeulated to agitate and disturb the
The Noble Marquess concluded souse fur.
dions to the same effect, by moving the
tiuu, upon which, he said, the debate might

defended the arguments he
adr,iiiced riestion. He admitted
lie duty of thi• House to legislate for the
dc.! cut tor any particular class; and he
misunderstood it lie was supposed to advo
str:iry principle. If these ever was a that
ite of the coantry called for a different eye.
1 which *now prevailed, it was the present.
that a duty of 355. could not he thought to,.
the state of the market was considered. An
merchant if-firetity informed him, that he
Mist with wheat at 26e..the quarter. Is
it the present law gave the landholder a so.
this lie altogether denied. In February.
'er than 2,;110,000 quarters et eon were Im•
01 that glut bOU,OQU quarters yet remained

it eratehonsets. 11 woe ma' wonder thatiOnglish better
(Veld act fetch bd. epoankwboo Dutehatim sold theirs
it N. • pound, and got • rand peed' by it, after miss"
.tbe freight and ditty. The Euglialt cheese expemernal
a similar fats. Therefore it was In vain to look at this
question simply with a reference to corn ; and if protecs,
Son was not carried much farther, the agriculture of the
country could not support itself. This was the time
thee to protect agriculture, and it was absolutely neces-
sary to do so. .As to the public creditors, it was uajest
that they should receive the whole of their interest so
long as the country was in its present dreadful state—
(Hear, hear!)—and it was high time also to cut off the
tail of the Right Hon. Secretary's Bill. which passed
three years ago. It was with these views be should now
bring forward the 'Resolutions be had to propose. It
had been said *hams could grow oarown coneumptioe;
end if that teas the case. what necessity could there be
for importation It was treating the landholders with
the greatest levity to legislate on the principle of the
Resolutions that came from the other side of the hones;
and he believed the day was net far distant when the
landed interest would be annihilated, unless they stood
Orin by each other in defence of their rights, and in op-
position to the miserable system et economy originating
with Ministers. The Hoe. Baronet concluded with
movie% as an amendment, a Resolution, declaring that
waft expedient for the protection of agriculture against
re '4ompetition, that certain rates of duties should
-befoul on importation, higher than thole already pro-
pelled. It stated the duty on wheat at 355. per quarter,
end proportionate duties on all other articles of foreign
Eroduce being of the same kind as those produced by
nglish farmers.
Sir F. 131:ItDETr said, that in entering, into the dis-
cussion oh the question then before the house, be should
pass over the v.trious details that had been entered into,
as thin,. of minor importance. The Hon. tlentlenian
who spul:e last, had in many respects taken a clear view
of this imesti o. He bad contended for the necessity of
presenting the importation of corn, tin .1 the price of our
own corn rose **high as to give the grower a rennin,-
rating profit; and he wanted to get rid of Mr. Peers
Bill at the same time. tie (Sir F. Burl It) was, how-
ever,firmly persuaded that there was no difference be-
tween the landed interest and the other interests of the
country, and that the distresses oldie farmer could not
be relieved by the mans which the Hun. Member had
proposed. As to what hail been proposed by the Noble
Lorif opposite, he did nut believe that Noble Lord was
more in earliest or less in joke on the present evening
than he was last uight.—(Lond langliter and betir.).—
" If I," said the Hon. liaroset, " hail a musical voice,
and if the house were disposed for a little amusement, I
could retort upon the Noble Lord, by enterteieing these
with the well known song—" cease your funning."—
(Much laughter and cheers.)—lndeed the Noble Lord
must hare supposed that be possessed wonderful powers,
when be thoeght that hecouhi persuade the house• to
adopt a measure, when he could not persnaule himself as
to the utility of it. He bad brought forth an offspring,
which bad scarcely seen the light; his balm was
strangled in the birth ; after he had mode a speech of
three hours end a half in praise of it, this unfortunate
being was not only exposed, but the Noble Lord WAS so
ashamed of it, that-be sow called on hint who was sup-
posed to be the real father to come and own it.—(Load
langliter.)—A greet deal had been said &bent the rates
of duties which were to be imposed. His opinion was
that there ought to be no duties at all. Before any re-
medy was proposed in that house, they ought to know
what were the causes of die diitress. As for the Nobte
Lord, he was in her wholly unable to do any
.thlng,
and le that state heatratillwowing hiselielt se the kimil-
nese of any one who would tome in to his assist-
ance. The Noble Lord ball remrked, that his
if nut likely to 44.. , could do no
harm. Bat be (Sir Francis • ptt) would main-
tain, that any measure which good, must do a
great deal of harm. Then the IV' rd wished that
every thing might be left to them: -advice bad been
followed long enough; 7 years had elleady passed, sett
in that time nothing had been slime. 'time, ia feet,
only aggravated the disease. sad brought with it lOW
and accumulated mischief. The chief Minister in the
other House of Parliament had said that the distress of
the farmers was caused by an overabundance of produc-
tion, and that a reduction of taxes could give them no
relief. This assertion was followed op by an hyperbole
on the part of the Noble Lord opposite, who was very
fond of dealing in hyperboles; he went so far as to
assert, that the farmers would find no relief from their
present distresses even if all the taxes were taken away.
Whatever might be the effect of a total reduction of
that kind, this one thing was certain—that low prices,
limited currency, and high taxes could not go on toge-
ther. As to a superabundance of products, he denied
that such existed. It appeared by the Reports made
to that House, that there had been only an aver-
age crop in the last year. and that the corn was of
an indifferent quality.—(Hear.) It appeared that for
twenty years there had been a regular importation of
corn; and that when the greatest quantity was imported
the prices were at their greatest height. So hr from
importation being iajurious. his opinion was, that it
would cause high prices. Therefore all the cries raised
against importation, and fur the necessity of protecting
duties were absurd. The principal cause of the present
evil was the diminution that bad taken place in the cur-
rency ; for even a small diminution must bave produced
a most tremendous effect. A diminution of five millions
must have had the effect of taking fifty millions out of
the income of the coootry. With regard to importation
he would say, that • country which imported, must have
high prices, for if more corn was brought ia, the mom
factures would be increased ; there would he an increas-
ed demand for manufacturing labour. An increase
would then take place in the number of consumers; and
high prices would be the necessary consequence. But
if the markets were to be narrowed by restrictive duties,
the conseqnence must be a diminished market for la-
bour, and throwing thousands of paupers upon the pa-
rishes. With regard to rents be saw no reason why
they should not be high. These were matters of pri-
rate contract between the owners and cultivators of
land. It was a proof of a prosperous country to have
high rents; and it was very proper that high rents
should exist. That measure. however, which went to
limit the circulation had a most ruinous effect on all
classes of people; for that me , instead of produ-
cing any benefit. brought every thing nearly to a etateof
despair. He k new of no greater crime than that ()faltering
the standard v due of the country.—(Hear, hear.)—lly
such a proceeding thousands of people were driven to
beggary and ruin ; while, at the same time that the cur-
rency was so reduced, all the taxes of the country were
kept up just as they were before. In every point of views
then, it was a most dreadful operation. There was
nn precedent for inch a measure in any part of our his-
tory ; for the country never had the same sort of circula-
ting medium as that which existed before Mr. Peel's Bill—
s medium which was at a great depreciation, and on the
departure from which an alteration was effected in all
the contracts that had been made by individuals before
the Bill in question passed: and it was • gross injustice
to keep up, amidst our present limited circulation all
that monstrous load of taxation which bad bees imposed
during the depreciated currency. It was an injustice
still greater to keep up all the increased salaries that had
been created while the cdrtency was in a depreciated
state. Soule tiros ago the Ministers hadsaid that it was
impossible to take off taxes; and sew they were begin-
ding to take someof them sitf.--(Hear. Lear 1)--he was
sere they must take off many; and if they did not. the
eoentry could not go on. The country think:nen now

felt that their were notillinisidet to he
sooner taken on questhma of this wial'the detain jand
he was sere they would aos now sapped the illin'sters
in their vacillating and miaow* mealtimes. They were
very different front another rare of memo% she, thoneh
highly favoured;inight be offin a teranieet.Thefiteoftlie
country was in their hands, and it was now their duty to
rescue it from the delusive and ruinous plans of Minis-
ters, than whom no set °Mee hail ever presented them-
selves in inch a predicament to the country.—(Hear !)
It was impossible for any one to know whether the
Noble Lord was in earnest or not. New the first step
that was necessary to be taken was to inquire into and
scretinize every expense of the country ; and as prices
were now at the rate of what they had been in 1792, all
expenses ought to be reduced to what they were at that
'time. A great deal had been said about keeping faith
with public creditors ; but it was of more importance to
consider the other classes, who were oi ern helmed with
distress. The pithlic creditors must nut expect to get
more than could be given to them ; and he was sore that
faith could not be kept up with them. As to superabund-
ance. it was impossible it could injure the farmers, be-
cause, if prices were diminished, they hail inure property
to dispose of: and manufactures would increase in con.
sequence of plenty ; and the advantages of those mann-
factures would then he felt by the farmers. Hr main-
tained it as a fact that there was no slyrralmeslance ;
that there was no proof of it ; but that the contrary was
the fact. The first cause of the heavy distress was the
conlailinPnt of the currency; the next wax the taxation;
ttassl as to interfering with the corn trade, it world ag-
gravate the evils we felt. The Noble alarress, he was
more, had lost the confidenee of the country, and was at
last reduced to the situation of not knowiog what to do,
'UFO to get a vote for the evening.—(ilenr, hear )
The cosintry.was in a worse situatiou now than du: mg
the most expensive period of the war , and all this sea
miring to the imbecility of Minister+, is Lich no power
could withstand.—(Hear, hear.) The 'loose, seeing
that Ministers had abandoned the helm of State to other
hoods, it was the duty of the House to take upon it se-
timely the task of considering the state of the country.
If the Noble Marquess really in.endeil to do no more
than sit upon the Treasury bench and reerive the seg.
gestions of those who chose to offer them, lie (Sir Francis
Borden) could only say—that the Noble Lord had done
his utmost, and his hunr of departure u-as conic. The
Ministers dare not look the country In the face. They
dare not present -the true state of the coimtry to the
House except by partial glimpses. They strove to put
down discussion, and avert the consideration of the dis-
tresses of the country by promises that at some future
time relief world arrive. The real cause of distress was
enormous taxation—the low priers made that cause of
distress insupportable. But the Government was not in
a condition to bear the application of the acknowledged
remedy ; and it was therefore his opinion that under the
auspices of the present Ministers, and until a better set
was substituted, it would he utterly impossible for the
country to in nn.—(Cheers.)
Mr. F. ROBINSON said he felt somewhat surprised
that the Hon. Baronet should have seized an opportu-
nity like this for leading the House to the consideration
of the general policy of the Administration.—(Cbeers
from the Opposition were so frequently repeated for
some minutes, that we could not catch the two or three
subsequent sentences of the Right lion. Gentleman's
speech) He said he had greatly misunderstood the
meaning of the Hon. Baronet, if he did not accurate)y
state the character of the Hon. Baronet's speech. He
'considered that it would be much wiser in the Honour.
oWienet ; it would be fairer that he should have
takep, another ppportunity _for discharging his i !WM-
lives against the Ministry, and openly stud directly put
them upon the defence of their acts. lie (Mr. R.) as
one of those node public conduct had been arraigned
by the Non. Baronet, was prepared to meet him upon
that question whenever he should think proper to bring
it forward. Considering the importance of the ques-
tion immediately before the House; considering the
variety pf feelings and passions which it had excited in
varloktbranthes of the patine, he must say that it was
shewing an Improper disregard to the interests of the
body whose complaints were before them, to evade the
immediate question, and take up the time of the House
in invectives upon the general policy of the Government.
—(Hear.) Although it was true the Hon. Baronet as
well as many of those Gentlemen who sat near him,
together with several of those whose petitions were now
before the house, might be of opinion that there was no
remedy for the existing distresses of the country but
the removal of the Ministry, yet it was not reasonable
to take that fur granted; nay, he was warranted in
holding a contrary opinion with the honourable
baronet, inasmuch as the great body of petitions from
various parts of the empire complaining of distress,
never alluded to anch a remedy, but all expressly pointed
to a different coarse of proceeding.—(Hear, bear.)—
if the reduction of taxation to the extect wished for by
the Hon. Baronet and others were to be carried into ef-
fect, they must de it by lowering the interest of the debt
—(Cbeers from the opposition.)—lt was well to find
that so many Gentlemen opposite expressed themselves
so unequivocally upon this subject, far their object
would now be seen.—(Cheers from both sides.)—And if
that was their object, it being a question of an impor-
tance and magnitude not to be exceeded, it was still
more necessary for them to exclude from its considera-
tion the presence of invective and party feeling.--
(Cheers.)—He had always professed his belief that no
measures of alteration in the Corn Laws could afford im-
mediate relief, becanse the distress depended upon low
prices. When he first introduced a measure upon this
subject to the house, he did not regard it as a good, but
as a necessary measure, because he did not like the prin-
ciple of restrictions upon the corn trade. Yet he felt
that they were called upon now to remove a speci-
fic defect which existed in the present law, and
that he would be ready to do. The question really
was, whether or not the proposed measure was
calculated to remedy that particular evil, which the
Report of the Committee of last year repre-
sented to be a grievous one, and one susceptible of re-
medy.—This was the object of his Noble Friend in wow-
ing the re-appointment of the Committee. If they did
not want to abrogate the law, they must restore its oper-
ation ; and the scale of duties now proposed appeared to
him calculated to accomplish that object. When the
Hon. Baronet attributed the distress to taxation, he
knew not how they would account for its existence, even
to a greater degree, in all other corn-producing coun-
tries. Yet all these coentries, as well as Spain and Por-
tugal. who did not grow their own supply, either had
established, or were about to establish a system of re-
stricting ditties. With regard to the subject to which
he had lirst alb..iled, if the Hon. Baronet thought the
removal of the present Ministers from power was the
only moans of relieving the Agricultural distress, he had
better to persuade the country, and if the country. the
house, to remove them. But he would tell the lion.
Barouet that Isis taunts would not induce them to alter
the course which they conceived to be beat suited topro-
mote the true interests of the country.
Sir J. NEWPORT-expressed his doubt, whether tin-
der the present circumstances it would be wise to tamper
with existing laws upon the subject of corn.
Mr. RICARDO said, that as be considered the die-
peas of Agriculture to depend upon the system of oar, ,
*pro Laws, be thought Owe the proper time for deliver-
his sentiments upOn the question. He contended
tkat there was an incdisisteney is the arguments of hie
bonourablefriend (Sir F. Burdett) when he admitted aC
first that abundance would produce distress, and decreali'
the value of produce. He was aware that his honouree

tale (Heed afterwards corrected the. asbnissioa, mad 'mid
that abundant.* areuW mot radacerthe value of prodeee
beyond what it would bored's-ad •Ity small crops with
high prices: He afterWards.applied the first argent. eit
to the (serener. Now the fact werr,• that an j acres*, in
the quantity of any particular artier,. did nut neerm-
rily refiner its aggregate,' vales. Suppose fur itia;.anee.
such an article as superfine cloth were wholly unknown
in this country, and 111,0011 yards alio-id be introduced.
It would necessarily he distribeted among the rirb, at a
very high price. If -his quantity were then to be Jim=
bled, and there should be 20,009 yards introduced; *ls.
though the yard might Weenie, cheaper, yet the aggrrol
gate value of the 40,041 yatds would be greater th a..,. ''''.
that of the 10,000 yards before the quantity was iticraiit , •
ed. It they then doubled the. quantity to 40,000 yardsi'v.
the same result would he obtained; but if they went os
doubling .until .tbey had. supplied all-slammse4sf-41se .
ifltb community, and then they doskbi4 the qu • againi •
then, undoubtedly. the ifiteganyvali4 0 e de- .
creased. 'The same with respktto fern. .. + an of
must follow, because the consumption of tarn must
necessarily be limited. But the carreitcy was an exeep-
.

to all purposes, and iU employment had no bound;..Any
increase therefore, in the cirrulating medium wpuld only
affect the prices of produce in a certain proportion, but
not at all upon the same kale, as an increase of any
other supply for which these teas a limited demand. Fir
pontended that our system cif Corn LAWS :predated
the distress complained of.. and that the resolutions he
should more were calculated to remove the eril. . What
be proposed was that there should be ten shillings duty
upon the importation of corn, and a boon, of seven
shillings upon exportation. It was inspAlible that
there could be a greater relative differeace betwixt
the expense .of other countries and the grower. of this
country than three shillings. Protection op to 706. be
oonsidered tp be equal and fair even under the existing dls-
trams. ' In calculating that 10s. would bet sufficient protec-
tion. he had allowed for all the particular asses paid by the
lhome grower over those of other countr:es. The evidence
lakes before the Committee showed that all the taxes did
hit ailmual to more than one-tenth of the produce,-therefore
a protection of 10 per cent. would place them upeoun equal
footing if others paid no taxes at all. Isle proposed fixed
duties, because he considered it an injustice to the farmer
that they should sot be fixed. Indeed he was avivocating•
the cause of the former, and was a better friend to him than
many lionottrable Gentlemen who pi:Mended .tokmi mere so.
From the evidence of Mr. Softy It appeared the! corn amass
lin the bderior of the country could be shipped at Dantrie
end imported here at not less than 63a. Now the Honour-
.
I able Member for Wiltshire lad said lasetillittihat a re-
munerating price to the groner of this coutilry.shyyld
id. that amounted to 07.. a :porter. The MD. Member for
Cumberland gav: in h a evidence that 635: *mild ha a rettlit;.
nerating price. How then could they ask for a higher pre
portion than a duty of twelveshillioge.ak his restsiugion pro•
prosed. He proposed a bounty ; and het assurelh I ‘on... Genie.
who were afraid of bounties. that the one he proposed would
operate only on perliculer 'occasions, ."Tut evident". of
Mr. Took and Mr. Jacob oh shiailbject was quitetleeisive.
The ouly question then. that rentarnedoess the •
cy ; but that he would net touch upon at the . present
time. Gentlemen had ridiculed the idea, that three mil.
lions could be withdrawn from circulation idiot lie
would tell them that in [7'33, when the Bank Issues
were very extensive, fall 3401,0001. was withdrawn for
that and the three following years; antlsehie lomat must
have had a considerable etlect.upori all.thecnoney trent-
actions of that time. Ile mentioned the fact, however,
only to ;hew, that 'whether a notion Poisessed a wealth.:
or a paper currency, it was subject to collations, as
well rn tlte quantity as the value of the
(Hear.)
lir; HEMET? then roseAfin tihi tries of
'-adjourn." were **general, that the flan. Member was
unable to proceed.
Mr. lIROUDEN (Chairman of the Committee) stated,
the Hon. Member was in possession t e
.1-10 use, noel
asked whether he meant to avail privilege
and go on.
Mr. BENETT said; as the • f the House was
against his proceeding, he would postpone his observa- •
tions for the present.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY expressed a hope
that nothing would be allowed to interfere with the re-
sumption of the discussion tomorrow, as it we; a subject
to which the public looked with great interest.
The House then resumed, the Chairman reported pro-
gress, and obtained leave ttrsit again to-morrow.
The other orders of the day were thee-disposed of.—
Adjourned at one o'clock.tbis morning.

COURT OF ALDERMEN.

Yesterday the Lord Mayor held a Court of Aldermen,
at Guildhall, for the transaction of general business,
which was well attended.!--Mr. Alderman Lucas pre-
sented a petition from certain members of the Court or
Common Council protesting against the stveariog in at
Mr. Denman to the °like of Common Serjeant. The pe-
titioners being called, Me. Samuel Dixon, Mr. Crocker,
Mr. Deputy Brook, Mr. Robert Smith, Mr. Gibbs, and
Mr. Stuart presented themselves at the bar. The pe-
tition was then read. It recitml the circumstances of the
election of i 1 r. Denman, and proceeded to state that by a.
by-law of the Corporation, made in 1.55-1, it was ordered
that no person should be eligible to the office of Recorder,
Under-Sheriff, or Common-Serjeant, who have not heed
for two years previously a common pleader of the city. It
appearing therefore to the petitioners that Mr. Denman
was ineligible to be elected to the office of Common Ser.
jeant, they prayed that Mr. Bolland should be called
in and sworn into the said office, he being at the late
election the only eligible candidate. After the petition-
ers had withdrawn, a discussion ensued on the peti-
tion, and it being considered as an attempt to revive an
antiquated law which had never been acted on in the
memory of 111411, and perhaps never acted on at all, it
was moved and carried that the petition do lie on tits,
table. •
Mr. Denman was then called in and sworn, and Walt
his seat at the Table accordingly.
Mr. Brown attended and resigned his office of Keeper
of Newgate, when the Court were pleased to come to a
unanimous resolution to present hint with a piece of
plate, in testimony of the high settee entertained of ::is
uniform good conduct during the tiwe he tilled that
situation.—The Court then proceeded to elect ;t Keeper
of Netvgate„ in the room or 7,1 r. Brown, resigned, whea,
Mr. John Wontner, Citizen and Cluck-maker, was Uo4'

nimouely elected, and took the moo' oaths.

A very cruel robbery was committed on Sunday last. •
Mr. and Mrs. Bowles. the unfortunate persons wlease
child and sister were killed by the fall of one of the
houses in Budge-row, Cannon-street, and who were
themselves dreadfully benised in the rains, determined
to attend the body of their infant to the grave on Sun-
day. It was with great difficulty they hobbled to a
neighbouring church-yard, where the funeral was per-
formed. They were objects of great compassion to the
multitude; but there were persons in the crowd, base
enough to take advantage of their absence from house,
and break into their apartments, which were soon
stripped of every thing valuable, before the two poor
sufferers reached the house. It is supposed that the
thieves expected to find great booty, a report having got
into circulation, that 3001., the property of Mr. Bowles,
had been found in the ruins. 'lke money that had been
found, however, proved to be the property of another
person. All the little articles of plate, which were re-
covered from the ruins, and which were the only things
of any value remaiaimg to the unfortunate couple, were
taken by the thieves.