The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-02-16 00:00:00

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die *mato or adraiefilir ifeetiet in '.. res,
was aftinterds eaffiretto lie la ; .11116
are, dime might twee ti bop eat. , Me Irt.lld, kW►
asmehighTlarredbageoser plea tre=t2tribly"rilt=
"MAW it Meaffy lOW. belt toile the senor site
Irwan' elloltsearglrOt *sad 'lll bold :eat
Ma would be itheiNerif to 'ay the Wenn ebb
sintsced, ked the expel** atoning it it wee
he doodad& 111 keep the sera long la the war*
bat that the repenter mm t take it away as sees
f
ekes*. This was arrtand as artifieal measure,
bet it *saki reader the supply ere moth complete
and wars. He hogged pardon a dreamed times for
bong intoned thilseese so leng.--(Lesd cheers.)—
* merely threw eat these saggedimia,lietitig it to the
hawse to determine what ought to be those secordiog to
the beet of its judgmest. He treat itiv• pmuelples
ellhat great matiMr- PK who had a MlA-
tatraol ft a Neese of phenyls" dal y el thi
worry. He liell minim* that be woo asMressisg Male
mina mho sall osserated the ni we Wilms great au,
who bad sappeeid Wad saved die mem* in the meet
Crderer(bera.iftwar)...aad end, after doe els* of
.illiest coorser, they 'RUM set blest the hopes sf the
resaMy,_ Ittarli Imt tuerith therilegioes bends the
lessiol *kid, lad by Which the
awastry .was Wastalaed aipMet aseeimpled distresses.—
(Hear.)—The Noble Marlow emended by moving that
there is laid before the liaise an ocoesat pf the net in-
seam aedespeoditare of the country. to ail end of the
year 1821, and the Wawa esmaloirig la tin Excheqeer ;
Asian account *fibs fended mid *goaded debt, sad the
isms applied is the redeapdoo of the same. .
Mr. RROUOHAM amend the been that be kalift
lewd to die statelier of the Neale lAA Wlet e deft*
of attention and aithiety which he eenthind to be dee
to die import:oath ef'the subject them • before diem; yet.
for his oleo pate he mad wet receive Nth dltdaet Teti;
tares of his Leeisblesples. Bet so far as he *seeable
to see it, the plan appeased to be thisewhat of this ea-
ters :—firat, that the gnat river es which the coestry
meat depuad was the power of snare; as& in the Mehl
rase, that relief was rely to he obtained bq !rifling re-
daction. Oa* pert of it was to afford tin !dew' relief of
akin et a shilling of tbeilety if every NSW .
la the. same light he 'Yoshi 'cornier nary redes"2
short of one so large as to afford instant and gertsamet
relieL As be stated upon a former oceasies, the mess
Members relieved their constituents him the sppiadeli
of the tax-gatherer, the more would they be leder la
consistencith their duty. The Noble Lord bad meet
disclosed that sines port of his project 1y which be so
posed be bed send, or was to save, the hods 43100111 W.
This would be *diminished 70100111. by the espeoces of
Greenwich Heartal and of 'Main, leavieg a real sum
of 1,300,00 W. This added to the lactose* of the fere-
sue, was to make &baseline a total, which the Noble
Lord, with extreme modesty nod liberality, had aloud
merely as the proxy of the Chancellor of the Ssehateer,
eareeeriag re five mildest. and a lamer. Mire, Vile,
if
thee •Idea amillaolation Ps shish thallium hid:been
looking so nag, was realised& pad they woo- -
onereiewohe plenelog task if ies..._
were to do with it Now, iii for to.
of upturns. that the Noble Lord's celestial's; were
correct, elthengb he doubted It, be called upon the
Geese to de that with the mean they possessed, which
would be best for, the relief of the siostry. The Noble
Lord said. let them keep this five millions and a quarter to
look at aid play with, and to make .Ilowvishes about the
stale of ear limners, and what be galls the cottntry.
He (Mr. B.) lied asserted that there was no increase of
coasemptioa ; but the Noble Lord now stated that, al-
sheath there had not betels an increased tousumption of
Mak there was an increase is the eensomptioe of sub-
stitutes ; in the consumption of tea, the estended use of
which gave so relief to the British agriculturist, however
beneficial it might be to the agricalturists of China.—
Asotlite position of the Noble Lord still more unaccount-
able, was that the redaction of taxes could afford no re-
lief to the suffering people:--(hear, bear!)—but he did
not say a word of the effect which taxes mast have in
raising the price of labour. of diminishing profits, and
of increasing the prices to the consumer. Indeed lie
called upon the House to look to the powers of resurrec-
tion, (loud laughter;) he told them that every thing was
in a reviving state; and advanced principles of political
ecosomy, every word of which was a complete satire on
the country. An appeal was made to the justice of Par-
liament to remove those cruel sufferings which theirconn
stituents were enduring.—(llear, bear.)—lle considered
every thing like a trifling reduction as an insult to the
country.—(Hear, hear.)—The Noble Lord disclosed one
part of his project. which consisted in making a saving
of two millions, which was to be added to the Sinking
Fund. To protect that fund the Noble Lord'referred to
the high authority of a man who long ruled over the
country; but the House must recollect that the Chan,
cellor of the Exchequer and the Not* Lord had pulled
the first stones out of Mr. Pitt's grigesdifice in 1813, and
left nothing of the Sinking Fund Width narne.—(ilear,
hear.)—lt did not appear from the Noble Lord's plan.
whether any of the tivil List, or any of the offices or el.
,weaves were to be touched.—(Hear.)—What, then, be-1
cause of his retrenchments? There was a little heard of
soperannuations, amounting to about 150,000/., and that
was ',tibia was to be gained by retrenchment, and gained
to the comforts of people who were starving for want.—
It appeared that the next, and perhaps the most notable
part of the Noble Lord's plan, was to borrow four mil-
lions to be lent by the Bank. That sum was to be alts
posed of in a way that wit; so imperfectly explained, that
many Members had not been able to catch even a
glimpse of the Nobli Lord's meaning. If lie understood
the Noble Lord correctly, the lending of the four mill
lions would apply to a two-fold purpose. In the first
place, a portion of the sum was to be applied to the pun-
chase of Stock, for the purpose of keeping up the price
of Stock ; it was to be another pulley, by means of which
to support the market; secondly, what was Dot so ap-
plied, was to go in aid of the poor's rates.—How the ap-
plication of money to such an object could afford any re-
lief to the country, or even to the parties themselves, he
was unable to comprehend.—(Heir, bear.)—As to the
latter part of the plan. it was still norsirin its priaeiple.
'l'he first part of the plan was nugatory ; the latter por-
tics of it was worse still—it was initelaievons. It woe,
neither more nor less than to lend money to every parish
that chose to apply, and thus, in fact, encourage extra-
vagance.—(Hear, hear.)—Would it relieve the country.l
thne to create in every parish that spirit of profusion,
which the Goveroatent bad so long been guilty, as loe
showed on a former eveni, by reference to the'tiaanco
Committees' Reports?—(dear, hear.)—He had Ali
deteleed the House too long; bat, Him were to encitleg
on as couch more of their titre, it would be impossible.,
show la stronger colours the iejurious, if not absent,
character, of the Noble Lord's plans of relief ; even the
Sable Lord's ow a stateuseuts carnal their (nen refivatiJo 4

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nfateregement of theismiew undi'stalfilso
Ili.* mos =it go Is that the masegetnest of
them lOU ifthededsemem to save theisemstry.
.lit Mb willed se die boom to boilthe ere it was too late;
liaise Sered them to be wise I. time, If they really do-
diode' eon that public credit -which the mime eT Ili-
litaterbthreateoed, and was meet likely to destroy. Let
di lIIIIIitrf Pidellit. ibegrunlemon of England, only
perelmasch course, ad-be would answer for it their
rit:ltt..e *IN Whidd be soccessfal. Let not the country gentle-
be afraid—the Ministers would sot think of moving.
Tiny hid only to tell the Minister that there mast be
zed, he would newer for it, down they
next day with the desired lednctions. If I
they &deed that the Ministers should reduce, that re-
duties shoed be fermi spew them. In his estimation,
the vote of that night would be equal in importasoe to
ill the itterestsof the country—to any decision that bad
tabu place within the last thirty years i mud• be there-
fore hoped that his prayer to them would not be vain,
in implonng them, if they desired to rescue the country
from it. difficulties, to compel the Ministers to adopt
measures of retinction.—(Losid cheering.) •
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Mr. HU4IIC ISSON commenced his speech by attired.
verdeg tut the views of the Nod. Member who had jest
iat hand asserted that is his opisietha,rechtedasty
of p. sad not a sanity, bed Wes the cease of
the *inherit distress. The Hoe. sad Leaned Out.
bad twit at much length** the . theiteelEut
help owdciag the very low, the very s Mee with
whisk he referred to the missies of his lame *a the
Bankrotishittes its lOW He. le frfttiale•bbgtss said
Whit bad hese a camber of thattitase,lts whelk'
have removed most of the dilhealtim in which they hand
thsweelvas 'evolved. He heard him with breathlAs
potation, to discover rrirsi *eight next fall from him.—
After mach irx=4. told them le axtsve matener,
that the Beek Aet was the origin of all ekr
evils ; if he bad bum on that Committee, what woes
wOsld Ile *ate preibitsd falling as the country. He
111soll thahvbwriag the disessolon ea the Bill of ISM
idresumieg hash paymesta, in the very last were of
progress through the Huse, he was preseet„and took no
pint In the debate, though be had spoke... two other
Ha was Ma Mss to eosjortare oe wirmigreeede
e How. sad lamed Outiomag bad kept these disco-
ries within his 'owe breast. The Hon. and Leaned
Gentleman limed to be of *philtre, that a retire to
sash payeteite weak relieve as horn all oar distresses.
Ha was initialled, thattho news to peace, awl the dimi-
nution of the
have,
in which the war
had Involved have, seder say eireemstasems
operated a is the nine trf most articles,
and thee amp distress. We hod seat so the
Conduit this Autry thirty or forty Ballroom of
gold, witi end to raise the prices of articles ehwe;
and if there hose as immediate return to vs& m-
usses, it woo have ceased a fall set only here, bet is
foreign sou which woad have been iodation to
this tottery; The abemptioa of gold by the beak.
be admitted, *Usti to produce distress, of which
ever?, million When in by it was au aggravation.-
-(Lnes of bear, bear, beat.) Is proportion as the
metallic cireallOoo was rattled, the dtscoonts of the
Bank mast dscAwas. Ni did sot think lightly of any
' measure that wowid amble the Bank te giro life sad
vest to *oldie gold ia 'treaters. If the Bank bad made
• an eureka to pit gold in eircoladon, Ivitelt that ft bad
been ialleeoftdiry ties importanu which 'that Howie at.
I tubed so it, and by the AM of ISM as he was convinced
, if the country were filled with gold by the Bask, it would
, have operated is its OWO keg. With regatil to the relief
ttahritted bbillobb Plead, *braise :of koorhiasof.
,byßirboPer igibh whether it !!!thld

nweessitrowros isruw wr••••••--- ---
;110 *add ask,- if a/se Noah, Ireterd of d
lootoo,ood. hew the FEW, bad *sty taken 6,
'would not bows bed a weloas effect it the country?—
wouldllt barepreiad the sane effect as tbe4,oowitsooL
which his Noble Frione's nsessare would give to the
country, by lemming the diseases of the Bank. He
did set give an elngteMed anent to the Report of the
.Agricetural Committee. He protested *Wingate doe-
Inns that taxatiop was rather a positive evil than a po-
sitive good. The Mos. and Learned Gentleman said that
the elect of tazatio. was, to dimieleb profits by taking
!from capital. This, be said, was an old axiom of po-
litical sceigisoy, hot he (31e. Huskisson) had never read
it, till Is profound lecture a few days Sind. It was
anothettadow of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, that
'taxatielfilinaded to prevent the employment of small capi-
tal, bgtbeelrect that large capital bad in cheapenier the
price of leivit articles by the use of machinery, and the
great facility it afforded of bringing them to market.—
The Honourable and Learned Gentleman said, that
in 1814, our expenditure amounted to 84,000,0001.
and that of 1.`.020 to 60,000,000/. In 1814 our
expenditure amounted to considerably more. The
into actually levied was only 84,4100,6001. In war
it was our policy to raise money by loans, and it would
be therefore preposterous to make a comparison between
thetwo periods. If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
meant to make comparisons, why not go hack to the
Atnericau war, when, at the conclusion of the peace, our
revenue was only 10,00n,0001., now it amounted to
60,0e0,0001. If the revenue was increased, it from
the necessity of meeting oar engagements, and sup-
porting public credit. The lion. and Learned Gentle-
man, it be looked to the opinions of those to whom he
would Indisposed to pay some deference—he meant Ms
political friends—be 'meld see the expenditure retlneell
below what the Hoe. Member for Essez (Mr. Western)
had conceived it possible. That Hon. Member said N
could not be reduced below 50,000,0001., and yet the e.
penditure fur the present year would be within that sum.
fbe Hon. and Learned Gentleman thought he had ob-
tained a great triumph on the subject regarding the
consumption of malt. He said, that eotwithstanditig
the great increase of population, there was a decrease
one-seventh in the consumption. But if he had looked
at the sub,ject accurately, he would have found that the
consumption of malt, since the tax was imposed in
Itf IL amounted to 29,000,0t50 bushels, and for the same
period, previous to the imposition, to 21,ti00,000. The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman said, we receive goods
from China amounting to 30,000,0001., and that we
make no return. If he were addressing a mob in Co-
vent Garden, be could scarcely used an argument more
ridiculous. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman also re-
ferred to the branch of our mineral wealth, and la-
mented the low price of iron. bat it was as material to
the farmer, that the price of iron should he low, as the
diminished price of clothes was to the labourer. It made
oar manufactures mach cheaper from the quantity of
machinery employed, and our hardware goods were
much lower than in any other country. This was the
effect, not of taxation, but of the employment of great
capital. The Hon a4l Learnel Gentleman had totally
mistaken the principle on which Mr. Pitt established
the operation of the Sinking Fund. His principle was
that there should be a tax of one per cent set apart
I from every loan, until, by the operation of that one per
lees& as a Sinking Fund, that loan would be entirely
ligir. tie was of opinion that the only Sinking Fund
tt
the country could have, was an excess of revenue
here expenditure in time of pea's. Ile thought that
nothing sho.dd be more cautiously avoided than even
h leant iw li uttitin to trench on the Slaking Ferrol. Hv
tonfhing that, they wound avow to &rope. and to the
woad the wt-ahnelfs sod yaGll diou of their condo, t.

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lkid# Tula ban mon assos..
la Frame ie was in the rorffillos of eile:Stipte•
ihmffirAL in England it waeistabiltihitera
if Imeoleventim I. America Rem la
twor .rett
et the debt - 1:10 duo pf Wolk IS
=IT; consected than
Of. thil Si olt-
411g FuniL if by the islidatiatiftegiliss of NM fall
see and s half dillies -se dm d was redssed tins
war, arm that bet sillier! He who peepsteßs mate-
, Nom of oar inseam Is our immediate watts main halm
Is roma ibr ssismsemaisslteaces aid maim Woe.
ile (Mr. It) hit do bused* is airier, that Se 1411.
cants anise which- this setaissituriste hdestrod were
mainly of a temporary Mtw. The Hos. aid Learned
tiontleion had entirely mietakee, sad eassempsently
misrepresented what his N.M. Friend (the Marv/am of
Losiesderry) had aid with toped to the Mining of
districts with loans or security. What Isle Noble !Arta
did my, wee that the Comseissierten for mahaging
r bills would have so objection to ghatslosairdittr public works to some districts on good
esetwity, to he repaid by. humanoids eat of the
parish rates.--(Hoer, hear.) He (Mr. Heiskimoo) dill
mime any thitterridieulons to the. preposition of
af-
•slsting a parish or district-to the eldest of the piddle
reieure. Moray advaaced tee throsioi *boot public
wacky...nth as roads or eberchma sissli Mimi and as-
sist toe parish ratty. hy gtivimy iseepiiyase: Md el-
tbeogb the Hee. sold Leseuebibootteotho called it Mk-
personae, yet lor(ble. Hodieoes) fek this ft ansilii
Mitre dm AWNS"( difsetet districts. if after all tt
affinities feentieldals. *with& anointed tbeioselvets.-
if after all the *oven ~they bed sonmistatal*lf
all the trials sod semester* *WA they -had beets'ef-
pieed--if after all them. they were to destroy that pub-
lic faith aid paha. credit by which they *moil is
road!, *oast the ludo** of the trot* be wet
sure tunnel( sad his friends wiseW set be eeeeeetieS
iodise. He would implore them is the saute of that
great man so often mentioned (Mr. Pitt)—he world lie
plats them is the frame of his-treat rival-slic
*amid implore them Be the same of all that trairebit
sod glorious, not to mutilate that great stionwinent of
their power had gleams*. Let them rattier retire
Md leave the. doetrsetioa to other heeds; for by fife
iketructim of the public credit would they destroy ail
joie sentides. .
Mr. BROUGHAM sad Mr. HUSKIBBO24 explained.
Gimel tIATIFA expressed his astonishment at dee
ffillskhr frith Web the Learned Gentiemaa had listened
the preposition of the Noble Marquess. He mania-
Illieltdtbat the alteration in the currency was mai talent
M a rise in taxation, and that. the application of the
Making Fund to the relief of the public embarrassments
tio far hoot injuring the public credit. would tend to es-
Itilish it more thin ahy 'sealer. which could possibly
be adopted by his Majesty's Government.
Mr. HUME said, the Right Homiorable Gentlemen
hid taken a course which he apprehended to be same.
4%400,0, to meaty dews be the Holm* week allot
1111611/4 bad been made,aad &Mirada; that agiee±n
graph by paragraph, Mislead of replying to the
"hi& had her. jest made by his floatintabi7;2-141."
limaned Friend (Mr. ersrughatn.) If the Hons. woe*
acne him, be would mete dote gross contradictiOnsii
the speech of thr Right Monastrable Gentleutaa.-(A
langh.)-in the first plan he bad asserted that tipe.arrir
dollarsl difficulties, if left to themselves, would recover*
an opinion utterly at variance with that which he mite
tamped when be advocated the warehousing SyStein. Thr
seat centradicition was, that while the Right lionourodshr
Goodman denied that taxation was die cause of to
piablic digress, or that it abridged the comfort, of
Mithe admitted that it gnu an evil its the sbst
t it were an evil is the: abstract, what, ha.'
ask. was it is practice? Thal Mtn extris•-''
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aim tlse_publle era"
whereas use ....—_ _ te!tz
Lamed Friend has di IT stated that it e w
the teal surplus to be • is the fiquidatseneef
debt, instead of being squandered, as he (Mr. Hut
would chew that it bad been squandered by Isis Adele
Ministers. He had bees astonished and amused at .4
statements of the Noble Marquess. Public expeetati
had never, perhaps, been raised so high both within/
without those walls, and be would venture to pros.-
that every statement made by the Noble Mar-
night was founded in delusion. Would the sw-.
tlemen be deluded by the panacea proposed by thetzsw_
Lord? There was 'not a single promise of the Noble
Lord which had ever been fulfilled, nor a single state-
ment made by him that night, which lie (.11r. Hume)
was nor prepared with documents to falsify.--Alitar,
bear.)—The Noble. Lord, while be admitted the ammo%
of Agricultural distress, had put forward the finqlkinfsittg
state of the commercial interests, but the house Was de- -
ceived by having the official value set before them. Ist •
is articles of commerce, which differed most material y, -I.`
'from the real valise. The Right Hon. Gentleman opp.,.
'Pk.'
site (Mr. Huskissuit) had permitted himself to sit,:k.. t
with contempt of the opinions of the mob of Covent-t i,:r-
den. He could not help reminding the Right Honour:
able Gentleman that it ill became him to taunt the mob
or the middling class. of society.--(Hear, hear.)—ilc
would venture to affirm, that if 300 tradesmen, taken in-
liscri 11l inately from that class of the community which
the Right Hon. Gent. had thought proper to treat 'Sills
contempt, were to supply the places of the Hon. Mee--
bets who now constituted that House, they would acetic
tbe proposition brought forward by ie Noble Marques
and treat with all the derision which it merited, the
monstrous and ridiculous idea of lending money to the
'overseers of a parish, as a means of relieving tbe gene-
ral distress of the country. He was persuaded that tax-
ation might be reduced to the amount of from seven to
ten millions • mid he hoped the country would not be ...:-
tidied till that reduction was effected. lie would ec Min,-
liiidself.to a single question. Would Ministers pf,tii.c
in keeping up the expenditure at 26,0011,0001, whe4'llie
whole expense of governing the country in the year
1792 amounted only to 7,000,11001.-.(llear, bear. '.=)--.iir
was persuaded that the proposition of the Ni.ble Lord,
so far from satisfying the public expertatio:is, Wol.ild
create a greater disappoitituscnt than any which P% PIN', r
present Ministers had yet produced •' that it was a pro-
position, in short, of so ridiculous and impracticable 4
character, that Ministers themselves would soon be
compelled to admit their inability to carry it into effect.
The motion was agreed to without a divison.—Ads
jousted at Half-past One o'clock.

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EARTIIQUAWC.—The Bonk!" Cannier of the 14th
Sept. states that an Earthquake took place on 6,14 h
ult., which was slightly felt at Bombay and Damau.r,
but more strongly at Kakis.
A PdlZl.—At the sale of the cargoes of the pira-
tical la sent into Charleston by the U. S. bri,.;
Eaterprize, a gentleman purchased I pieces of
cotton bagging, and, on opening one of thew, disco-
veied 1 dollars worth of specie, in Spanish and
E ,glish coin.
MerLs SiAmet.—The Genera (N. rd dazate
that 73.9051b5. of Maple Sugars ware naattit.viattii;
t iwn of Phelps during the Perin. .
Waters —The Provideise! Giszette meations Lit
peruse appeared io the atarlietplace la drat itterp,tre
I handay, who measlares
hei ;hi, and that he stated cheap slap Use.elio 1.4 .1
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. -,..aic.--.71-p.7 !,4 "'Vl'
's 1111 E. Pan. 14....Yesteeday• an Agregate Sloe&
• in t' Callsolisa of Ireland, was held bt .Gemicark:
t street apel, pugilism to public advertisement. ... .
• At bell-past oar o'clock, Sir Thomas Estnonde was
~called to tie Chair. • -
t It was moved by Mr. Howistr,•and seconded by . Mr.
. aCesteor Don,. that Nicholas Purcell O'Gorman,
. Est should coati*** tei act as Secretary to the Cada)-
, lice of Ireland.—Carried imaninsouldv.
.'. 11 was moved by Ur. Howley, and seconded by Mr.
O'Coonoe Doe, that die thanks of the Meeting he given
. to Me. O'Cionture, for services as Secretary to the Ceiba-
* /ice of Ireland.—Carried unaaimously.
t Me. O'lLionsam then stated the object of the Meeting;
• le said they bad met for the purpose of considering the
propriety of petitionieg the Legislature for a repeal of
stillklatwcaircwukunichisucesba
aggrieverendtehrd
eeCb.
Meeting bad been originally called for Saturday
itl' advisable iic lof
f to Ireland.
e: t er
day to the penal. At an adjourned Meeting of
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.16 Satb-Couisittee, which had been appointed by the
'Gentlemen who 'dosed the Requisition, the Draft of a
Petition had been agreed to as uue to be recommended
hi them to the General Meeting fat its adoption. Two
' Nesoletiorts had also been agreed to by the Sub-Coco-
•' .1111 i tees, which would he referred to the General Meeting.
.Mr. O'Gorman further stated, that the Meeting bad
bees originally called for Nlarlborough-street Chapel,
but some difficnlty having arisen from the state of that
Chapel, be (Mr. O'Gorman) applied to the Most Rev.
Dr.-Trov, who procured for them the use of Denmark-
street Chapel. With respect to the time of meeting, an
• serer bad crept into some of the Papers; he (Mr.
',O'Gorman) was-not certain until ten o'clock on the
_pre-
' ceding eveuleg, that they could,have the use of Den-
'. .stark-street Chapel; be then sent so 'Advertisement to
flee Newapeper Others, but in some of the Papers..hy an
error of the Press, the hour was atated to be tea instead
if ode o'clock.
• ' , It was moved by II r. O'Coesoa Des, and seconded by
Enwaae Moose, Est that the Petition should be read.
, Me. tilleollllleN read the Petition.
ellte.CYCoresen Gorr moved that the Petition which had
been jest read, should be adopted as the Petition of the
Cathollesof Ireland. This motion was seconded by Edw.
Moore, Esq. sad baving"beeo put from the Chair, passed
vitaidsuoasly.
I Mr. KicisoLas ManoN then moved that the first Re-
tie/Woe which lied been agreed to by the Sub-Commit-
le', should be 'read.
• 'Ur. o'ooa/sax read the Resolution, which was as
fellows : ...-
' RqsolvCd—That we deem it essential to our honour
Ind io:crest; that as speedy a discussion as possible in
' the present Session may be obtained on the merits of our
• Petition.
, Mr. NANO,: moved, that this resolution should be
~. ' Warted. by. the General Meeting. --- Dillon, Esq.,
• • - -- tenithil this motion.
' -Mc Moo O'Cosson stated, that having beard that
. 3n. . .
Iteasentiou read on the preceding night, be came to the
rimiest Meeting with a feeling of reluctance.
... Mr.. O'Corr.weit. —Before Mr. O'Connor speaks to the
jlleaolation which bas been moved and seconded, it is
.4014 in point of order, that it should be put from the
Chair, Mr. O'Connor will then have an opportunity of
speaking to the question.
The' uestion was then put from the Chair, after which
'Mr. o.N.•suren resnmed.—Mr. Chairman, I have said,
lOWA Wades heard the resolution read on the preceding
rat( awe to the Meeting with a feeling of re-
. lam ea anxious, Sir, for the loner and the
' the Catholic Body as any individual in this
Oral I conceive the present mousent to be criti-
anxious as we may be for the attainment of our
. ,Se ought not to discard prudence. We have a
came, sod setk`titkat a waat of satloratioo. or 1
that weld Is liked bettlik) air 1
It a had one. n Mae late debate in Parliament,
o the Reuse of Commons was devising means for the
slop of the outrages which have lately taken
• --.,
. is- Ireland, it was with infinite regret I per-
l' that a Minister of the Crown advised that there
not be any attempt. for the present, to discuss the
c Claims. Why this allusion should be made to
MP • lice at such a moment I cannot well conceive ;
Mk . °lice are no way connected with the late out-
rages that have unhappily taken place.—(llesr, bear.)—
The eimervation, however, has been made, if the news-
'assert report correctly, by the Minister, who is also our
diattugaisbed friend. However mach I regret this tic.
carriage. I do think that we shoal tk not act imprudent-
ly in conanuence of it. I think the word " speedy"
ir. else Peiiton, and also in the Resolution which bas
beet just read, not decorous or well-advised. I would
therefore move as an amendment,
Thatlbe Petition of 'the Catholics of Ireland be com-
mitted to the care of the Right Hon. the Earl of Do-
streirbomire, and the Right Hon. Wm. Conyngbam
rivabas. with a respectful request that they will present
it fat diocassion to both Houses of Parliament, at such
perhstflu the present Session as they may conceive
most beneficial for Catholic interests.
J. E. Devateux, Esq., seconded Mr. O'Connor's
amendment. A long discussion then ensued, in which
Mr. HOWILLT and Mr. O'Coxyiti.i. were the principal
speakers, and in which Mr. O'Connell was frequently
called to order, after which Mr. Al A HON'S resolution (the
original one) was put and carried, amidst loud cries of
..em. n 0...
ble. O'CowNoa's anteadinent was then put as a seps.
rate ewe:dation, and carried.
It was !text moved by J. E. DeVEREUX, Eq., and se.
tended by Mr. O'Compton Dos, that a Committee of II
he appointed to prepare a Petition or Address to his Me-
jetty, from the llamas Catholics of Ireland, praying
that be wadi be graciously pleased to recommend to
Parliament a repeal of the Penal Laws still affecting
that portion of his Majesty's anhjetis. The Gentlemen
were then nominated to constitute the Committee, And
alter a Tote of thanks to the Chairman, Lc., the meeting I
adjourned sine die.

Thursday sight, at tee o'clock. a Cabinet Council
was held at the Marquess of Londonderry's. The
Ministers continued in deliberating about as hour.
We learn that a Requisition to the High Bailiff of
Southwark is now in a Course of signature, for the
eonvonag of an early Public Meetiug to consider the
4propriety of petitioning the Commons Honse of Perlis-
Seat to amend the defective state of the representa•
tint of the people, and adopt a rig id system of croons,
in the expenditure of the public money ; and also
to take into consideration the propriety of thank-
log Mr. Hume for his laborious and persevering ex-
'Titans in Partisan to effect a reduction of the taxa-
tion, which is now become so oppressively hardensusa
to all classes of his Majesty's subjects.
We aro glad to find enlarged political views and
public spirit extending rapidly through the country.
At Beam. the Frieads of Parliamentary Reform in-
teed to have a public dinner the bogianiag of March.
A Committee has been formed at Amsterdam. to
Alert subscriptions for the relief of the unfortunate
Greeks who have boos obliged to leave their reentry.
lead Amadeu their property.
The saw duty epos win is the kingdom of the No-
thovisods acoordiag to the project of law. is 9 Amiss
par bared (hectolitre) for (taiga wise, sad for wise
of ebe pew* of the Morton 1. ie. per barrel.

PRICK or rrocip Tina T. Ovit.ter-Ple
oisir mock .. • •- s stock.
s pirrem Newh.
s Oar *ANA • ititee i *oath an 4 .
se parquet ts mrifi fIArM Seted'iles
4 per Coots
6 perCts. Navy
3 perCeid.. . atelltra
Loss Ans III 1464 fee. for Stet .7.44.....711.41
Imp. 3 per. Cod
Irish 6 err Ces,t Lott. rickets. 'l9l. MRs

COI btattfituatt.
"iinrserriss minima*" ti tisseabefivrap WIT"
ITATUSIIIIO

LONDON:
SATURDAY rum?co, DISRCADY 16. 18127
STOCK EXCHANGE, TEN O'CLOCK.

At an early hour this morning, the Stock Exchange
was filled, and nearly the whole of its members were
present. A camber of private bargains wipe made
before the Market opened ; but as soon as the clock
struck 10, a great bustle ensued, sad the fluctuations
in Consols were, from 781 to with as immense
quantity of bislang trabsacting in the Five per Cents.,
which are 1041; to 105.
ELEVEN O'CLOCK.
The bustle still contianes as great as at the open-
ing of the Market, and large parthasse ban been
made by an eminent Broker ; and the Fin per Cents.
still continue to fluctuate, from 101 l n 10P, and
Long Annuities to 20k.

The Dublin Arorniog Post of Thursday states that
Mr. Dawes, the King's messenger, arrived the day be-
fore, by the packetfrom Holyhead ; bringing with him,
it is supposed, the two Aets—an *odorous importation!
The Provincial papers recelied in Dublin on Wednes-
day, tomaiunicated ao new outrage of any ilese.riptioe.
Th. Cork Chronicle, referring to the despaishinof the
Marquess Wellesley, laid before Parliantelkillik the
following parsgraph:—
" The only remark which we Immthie day to 11101 f on
these communications, is the meow in which the Rev.
Provost Of Bandon notices the hie neighbour-
hood. The houses of the pro ho saw have
been exclusively visited by diet W . girt net
sense of impartiality to have to ev.
trate the propriety of adding, tis Bandon dis-
trict, arms were exclusively in the hands 'Protestants.
Therefore were they visited? It is palmist to see efforts
thus made, by interested individuals, to give a religious
colour to the unfortunate disturbances thatiwwdistraet
this inn of the kingdom. We shall let Lill, Liver
pool reply to, and refute these ungemiroos aid illiberal
insinuations."
The eggregateilleeting of the Catholics our readers
will observe bas been held in Dublin, and, to pre-

serve the harmony of the Meeting as such as possible,
two resolutions on the subject for which they nut
wens separately put and carried, though. tinily oldest*
varied. The Catholics, instead of taking the &dyke of
the Marquess of Lox non MIRAN as topuplpitag ►sir

si.Tl44-1&61
icatio• no sulstiag tom the Int Jose 141113.2 L.
*saber of ?kW Iflilke!Pt4"l"*"'• • •4.-
ref the Prise ;14i gems' witpolipitiajmaithlßll
fionnts Portal* Bette, Oanteilmag and in 41 Som.,
wp the Coesitirtgotr:
ass *Pranto atiocksijoy Frieda ial
res so the pie* istolidireoveted '
pet Coots. De 30c.
_ .
'We 'view the: pro ngs of Ina sight. is Oe
Noose of Consmoas. width carol geed .1110.40ep pones%
We had 110 expectation, at soy time, of golid to re•
tilt from the correskti yiews. or improved Illsliogo of
'Ministers themselves:- Sot we thought a eassinind
to afford a real relief:A 4. distresses of the canntly,
might be imposed *kw Wm, by an authority they
are not 'infield tO inii•hey. It seems, we are to be
disappointed is that hope. If an, the case if this
country is more desperate than we had imagined. That
part of Lord LONDONDIERIteII plan which goes to the
repeoling of the additional Medi Tar, which will be s
reduction of taxation to the amount of a million sod a
half, is a real benefit to the country. We cannot be
mistaken in that, if the repeal does take place.
Bat, what Is this, to the public expectations?
What will it do, towards relieving the entire
distresses of the country? And what is the
amount of all the rest of his Lordship's plan ? It
was believed that the KING would give sip part of his

Civil hist. We mesa the Civil List, and not merely
his Privy Parse, from which comparatively little
could be spared. It was hoped, that the salaries of
all the great officers, who contribute to the pactatal7
of the Crown, woald be reduced tArergisesa, for a time
at least. A reduction of the incomes of the Secretaries
of State, and, of all the other Ministers, could not be
denied after the Civil List had set the example.
Sinecures and unmerited pensiums could net continue in
existence, after such retrenchments as we have just
mentioned. Corruption sod pemalatioos in the higher
offices of Goveromest, most team, in such an order of
things. The hopes of these favourable events, of this
happy change in mar political °tradition, lived. and
bussed is the public ear for a short period. Bat last
night scattered the materials of that agreeable vision.
The high quarter to which we alluded, bas no such
thoughts as we really 'could bare belieed, and did
belie►e. From the moment [As[ was booms. the full
estentof oar disappointment (such as it stands deve-
loped in Lord LONDONDMILIT.6 speech) was antici-
pated. From his Lordship, sod his Colleagues, no

hope of good can come, bat what is extorted from
them by Aiser authority-4kt* is, by the Tuancx,
or the !sont.—This edortion of Ministers Is not
worthy of examination in detail. TOM_ loading a
ample of 'millions or so to the Aviculturists, wy
eltritllblh•sills eyes of the earldoms or busily

his arreiln of rest. Bat it will sot relieve the far-
mer; for it will sot mid to A. rermse, out of which
be is to pay his rest. taxes. and other expenditure, and
to ilve. It will leases, that recess., the amount
of tbe latereat he pays for the loaa. He can
get so profit by this loan, except by its es-
obi's( him to raise the price of his produce by
keeping it back from market. But that is not a legi-

timate object, nor the object professed : and it is
almost amiversally allowed now, by the Agriculturists
themselves, that high prices are injurious to them is
the end. As to the plan of wareAoseieg British corn,
that is of the same nature as the above. It can Lave
no swamis& if it be not to raise the price of cora.
But that is abandoned now by all classes and descrip-
tions of men. we hope. The real object of all who un-
derstand the true principles of political economy.
and mean the country's prosperity and bappi-
pees, is—to enable the farmer to live. with the
present prices, after he has paid rent and taxes,
and his other annual outlay. Puoviosmcs seemed
to have seat a gracious Land to save Ibis country
by the unexpected reduction of the price of provi-
sions. That one circumstance put all Reform that we
maid desire, all the recovery from political disease
that we could wish, within our power; and made such
reforms, with sincerity on our parts, both practicable
Amd easy. And shall we, now, throw away that
great blessing; and force provisions. by our own
acts, into high prices again? Shall we do t►is, too,
when the Farmer is contest to seek a remedy for his
distresses elsewhere? That the Farmer opened his
eyes to this perception of Lis real interests, was sur-
prising. We have a combination of events, something
like taint's:, in ear favour; and, is it expected we
should Dow throw them away, to feed the inordinate
rapacity of such me■ ■s my Lord LONDONDURRY
We hope the country is wiser ; and, we thick it is.
His Lordship, and his pray financier, the CUANCELLOR
of the EXCIIIQUiI, may withhold all largo retrench-
ments: the COUNTRY 0 we hope, will call
for them with a voice which the SeYBREIGN will
hear, and understand. and willingly respect. Let the
Conotry Gentlemen try this. It is the only means
they have left, of saving themselves, and all they pos-
sess, from utter destruction.

BRIGIITOIII. Fits. 16.—His Alajesty appeared is
pablic, is as apes landau. sa Wednesday sad Thurs.
dAy diereses.. sad lucked extremely well. The Kiag
took the Lewes road. and was out between two sad
three hours.

His Majesty, took an airing, Mee, yesterday, but
chose the Ituttingdean•road.
We heft that Bonapsrtee favourite horse, whirl.
followed the remains of his waster to the grave, i%
new in His Majesty's stud. He is a ►ay Arabian fo
esetital symmetry.

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