The Liverpool Standard, and General Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1854-09-05 00:00:00

TUTsr

TEMI3EI

"'eek ending the 26th Augus,„
'esults whe
osnits compared with the previous week :
Public dep
Other deposits
liest

Ives the following

On, the other side of the account—
‘-lr rninent securities £10,969,279, Decrease X 61,594
Other - ure of railway waggons,
iron houses, &c., became involved in pecuniary diffi-
ecurities ... 14,400,809; Decrease 339,998 culties, and on the 15th of June a deed of settlement was
Notes unemployed ... 6,896,180; Increase 16,360 drawn'up, in which Mr. C. Tupper, of London, Mr. John
belt'
amount of notes in circulation is £20,047,515, Brown, of Sheffield, and Mr. John Taylor, Mr. William
',TA' a. decrease of 275,420 ; and the stock of
ninon in both Barton, and Mr. W. F. Macgregor, of Liverpool, were
Ing. a departments is 213,635,424, show- affointed trustees. They did not, however, act as such
t. the 28th of June, and the books were placed by the
decrease of 265 868 when compaied with the
prey i,,, ,
creditors in the hands of Mr. Banner, accountant. On
return.
the 24th of June Mr. Maw presented a petition to the
' Court of Bankruptcy to administer to his estate under the
arrangement act, and the commissioner subsequently con-
sidering that he had used the protection of the court to
effect an arrangement with his creditors, made him a
bankrupt, by a power which he possesses under the act.
Mr. C. Turner was appointed official assignee, and Mr.
David Evans solicitor for the estate. Orders were sent to
Mr. Banner to give up the books, which he refused to do,
and on the 29th of August Mr. L. T. Gaskell, one of the
) messengers of the court, went over to Seacombe to take
14,400,809 possession of Mr. Maw's property, He was resisted by
Margetta, a foreman, and others, who had barricaded the
premises, having, as they said, been ordered to do so some
time ago by Mr. Banner. Ultimately the aid of the police
was called in, and Mr. Gaskell succeeded- in effecting an
by breaking through a window. After some
tion, the commissioner reserved his

EDWIN MAW'S BANKRUPTCY
, EXCITING SCENE.

,ii 33; Decrease
,210; Decrease

THE usual dulness of the Bankruptcy Court was
on Friday last, varied by a " scene," the part
of which are as follow : In June, Mr. Edwin ,
who occupied large premises on the banks of the
Wallasey Pool, for the man -

SSI:TX DEPARTMENT,

Notes Issued £26,94

3,695,(

£26,943,695

•ernmt. Debt £11,015,100

Gold coin & bu11'n.12,943,695
,Silver bullion ...

£26,943,695

BANKING DEPARTMENT,

131145. Capital ... £14,553,000iG0r. Securities
'test
Pa is Deposits :
, 3,395 210rOther Securities
'day -6;896691,,180729
oth
3974574 Notes • • •
lie Posits 9,,975,033 Gold & Silver Coin g;691,729
other bills 1

Our s

UBo'

£10,969,279

£32,957,997

Week ...JUT has been very active all
moan prices have experienced a very considerable
decline' ee• The fine weather, the consec
ibarn corn, and more easy state of moneykeLeolnbined to produce the improvement. This
of thend prices seem to have reached the summit
a resent undulation, for at midday there was
the en decline of one per cent. ;at this, however,
thatilLarket closed very firm. It appears probable
i'hue advance will proceed, and that speculators
stki-l'p. their attention now for some time to the
of thefrehange, it appearing to be the only field
tf this at present. The prices of the business
tirk ,8 daY are—Aberdeens, 111 ; Chester and
411:411ead, 171 • Caledonians, 331 -I *;, 'Arca-
Yorksiiire, 75 8 4 t 3 4 2 4 -14 -8- 44 5i- ;
Ntoef;ler and Carlisle Thirds, 111-p London
qscit' °515 8 J-4 5; Ditto Eighths, id Sheffield
C 26 -1; Midland Stock, 724 1
6- a:4, 211 2 ; North British, 8 13-16.; Be.
Shrews Stock, 19 7-16 ; York Capital Stock,
:20Cwsbury and Hereford, 24d; South Eastern.
03-1.1.11.
covp
iisidavzhi°;i:phoevetr,ade during the week has con-
both spinners and exporters
4440.„ purchased largely, and prices have also
Ves-c'' to the extent of fully *d. per lb. The
oflo,°,r the week up to Friday, were 57,240 bales,
"e/po:flea, 8,290 were on speculation, and 7,120 for
leaving 41,830 for 'the trade. To-DAY the
I,—"s per were received, but though of
RelfZlvourable tendency, the market here was
wi•l'lltairted, the sales amounting to 7,000 bales,
expo„le'l 1,000 were 'taken on speculation and for
rate;
.The Wowing is a' comparison of present
last
Year Ilth those of the -corresponding period
;__

New Orleans M

Pair ..
Upland Pair

1853.
6 1-16

6-16-16

ffALES.
'4ll°l'LHlCt"leWndeieng k Prou. sly
iSevt. 1 tinilyr.

quent great

IMPORTS

ISTUCK
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11'11e4 • • 10(4 33 380 19990 1 1
N'‘,:ert% . .... 1121 3153
18,T:uile "• • Si 6 11970 320890
Pew Oit;', 32 53 3620 178580 1 _ -,-1 604650
J
293 9093a0l
8a ms 7,„_"s• 4 1133 30650 i 643580 6 -
,i - ....:(2. e,,,,,
Ata,.% dze. ' a It 910, 33500 ...
ter,,qlllan3 '• 4 6i 220: 20633
IN.'erar 64 '7l 4401 22150
ql)ti aB'e 7 10 520
nri 4-
11,,/ ;,_•• Si 11 1740, 74870
,(rat
~ •occ. ___ 20 4720
/I adra, '• • • It 4/' 6830 213290 1
'441, '' •'• '3i 4 1 280, 721011
'"•• 31 110 19391
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Week
pin iv
Year.
.
pt Sept. 1
lesent.

46G440i

.99741 •11070
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49293; •59780

a g4,7brcx-.--llolders of Sugar having given way,
toff:l,,bllsiness has been done at fair demand for
,itig.:;lol' export. Rice in more request at improv-
")ar I:zees. In Tea little doing, and former rates
Ne), Jg.suPported. Saltpetre dull, and Nitrate of
,„'`All6,OllO. In Palm Oil a fair amount of
311. limited demand, and prices loser

her quie

prig -or the Sugar market
blis.eB of Plantation ar
4,... tuess -since Friday
ertt„. -,at 30.. 9d., -
t 34., 200 lilids. Trinidad at 30s. 6d.
oula' iana
~..0 bags Cossipore at 40s. 3d., and
a
:puns Antiguas.re ed. per cwt. Of Molasses,
. reported at 14s-
tiotn-the quay. 60
44-d. per cwt, puns. Jamaica and 100 puns.
.'J
4po I,ags
9etnerara Rum have been sold at previous prices.
74, at
Att._ connnon washed Rio Coffee have been
"‘n.v.,4Bs. 6d. er cwt. The sales -of Tea are of
/ItiZkil character., at wormer prices. 1,600 bags
14, 1 Rice have found buyers at I2s. 6d. to
bo ed and
. 4., ', 1,200 ags ....rraean at ?
'apo'jvt., being:). lower rates. We have .r.lso to notice
pet va.s Salt lower
at 235. for 8 per cent., and 28s.
pa„,,ciwt• for 5 per cent. refraction, :and a small
7 of Cassia Lignea, at 120 s. per -cwt.
Ivo
• here this
fhb
.°L.llre have been rather quiet . _
14,, ' ,the manufacturers seem to have supplied
ales elves for the present, and now hold off in
to IciPation of easier markets but there is nothing
too,‘l'arrant the realisation of their ideas ; on the
441,17, the market wears a very favourable aspect,
14ti '4konld there spring up anything like alspecourt-
or 1_ emand, prices will still go higerAustramfian,
149 Week, Week, 1,180 bales, viz. :—One
I Iceland 40 Portugal, 4 Buenos Ayres,
.er , 2 Medi-
itean,rll 261 Scotch, and 123 Irish.
ersp„, ir
' 7,, •-• xtIIGHES and RONALD say-.:—
qt...ite,, extensive armaments, both in this con
'lOth74' 'lave led to a corresponding a'n—
Ittti4,l2g, Ziving considerabl^

=prises 1

140 hhcis. Jamaica

31s. 3d

25 hhds.
,0

ktry and
military

impetus to the WoL
gleie , from present appe—arances, seems rather likely to
than fall off; and the
usuaL sources of
th4tlll) prices
j.ll the foreign 'Wools, our stocks are not likely to b,
!11,,,71a11y increased. English and Irish Wools have been
11),°1°(1 demand, and prices
'41),%,er daring the *-
tikmulet,lig t esell ; 4-1
for x,,

of the foreign s

nay be

rted Tally 1

GREA.ME and Co. sa
Wool mar

7•ll'ehlge llnPro% itch.
they of the
!141'44,t raohth, I. 1.
ills both in
tkirr,'t,e3 at a ie fe nn
1.
4)11,1k rates • the public sales 1.24..'S clo'sed.on the 12th ult.,
as
*e4l4), th'e 3d. per lb. on these descriptions
le.rkb.levious series in May and June, and holders are
looking for a further it•-•-
..,1„, i Jo Ats.
.Rop,--
otir L
.ed d Proven.t eircular, has t.
kttel4,l?rices are graduat.
,Nerwaleuilln' to inark a fto
Nor teth. -•-
en':(letire -
to
torrli 4
4th 3 much reduced, /or 11elde,,elYtanced than reduteu, and t
winq

.Lia a fair amount of busines

as been

gn and ho

f colonial W

sox . and Co.,
I -in the Woo'

nfidencE

entrance

Lnimatect convers

judgment
On Saturday Mr. Commissioner Perry gave judgment
in the case. He said :—This was an application made to

the court upon a summons directed to Thomas Margetta,
residing at Seacombe, calling upon him to show cause
why he should not be committed for a contempt of this
court. It appears from the evidence that Mr. Gaskill,
messenger of this court, who had a warrant of seizure on
'he property of Edwin Maw, was directed to proceed, on
lth August last, to execute such warrant, accompa-
►y three assistants, armed only with that authority
L, considering that it proceeds from one of her Ma-
esty's courts of law, in any civilized community in Eng
and should be deemed amply s

according

to his own evidence, verified by that of another wanes,
Cartwright, he was refused admittance by the party sum-
moned before this court, who mounted the gate of the
premises at Seacombe, addressed some eight or nine work-
men outside, who, in consequence, placed themselves be-
tween the gate and the messenger, armed with spades,
levers, and other instruments used in the work. This
•esistance took place notwithstanding the object for which
had come was disclosed. It became neces-

lessenge

then to resort to the police

healthy tra

rualinfnct—ur-e-rs-:—S

Is in all the
time th

YESTERDAY.

slue wff

etrit.-,1 Month are mill '4'ed t
Dro4tr 4..-the Worsted trade :_ 1,311
Yet tlikion, and more dispo4it.lL is shown to operate.
kci e quant;_yt 0 wOOl brought to thehmahrkperitce.s
Ith., -;; in Ire'landf ansewwell as Englandvery
most of whom
._4re Li;,l4."fered and given•to the growers,
•..zorh, no Trieans
satisfied, after having inrenalised such
lolq,ll4nt rate 6 Nat year, and as their disposition is. to
4141 atber than take present rates,.itei.tprobable the
,r4.lvill be only moderate for some tnnn
3341°111011-"—We quote the followi gE fr_omiarEthße,
am e'Y circular of Messrs. 1-101.31 , S
The c'' '
&ring the
Ihoath arrivals into the docks of the Ifersey_,_
ieti,, of vessels containing Timber fP3mjiiti
6sBhvNegosertlsh'
4'3,8e,,i',' re-97 vessels, 70,692 tons, againstt
The
tolisa,,‘ol?B, for the e,orresponding period las
of Timber is
teleem-',,btl,ve demand for every descriPbmi • buyers,
1;e41.15, ''Y small a d the dealers not tieingi,
stored
j! tli „qi the car'goleis of square Timber are
be"than are
tenth
Dl'es4llyl4.l)eirters in ex ectation of higher rates
in the
to-pithe'so'lTrerin. Ofppine Timber, Quebec, early
d.
4t `s• Deis .', as per average size and quality, at is. 7-1 t
l'ry °°t, but latterly sales cannot beeffee,i_tedex.eveaup
„tltlriek
he rates. Of Baltic Timber I"L! 'l'm
,e 4, 2
()the Mouth are 9 vessels, 2,108 tons, against 6 yes-
period last year.
ere'Llo tOrig, for the corresponding
Deals
ZI)(1/3,74€ hot been any sale from the CPI very-- light,
‘tiel martins,
the stock of St. Petersburgh is rY
tain their p ices." 11'4ti 44.----Therre is no
Copper and
itl 4 ill the market during the week.
important change to
ilereluain'
a- • with a steady
vskilia Lead-- nucbauge in price,
much
,mvtilersl. is improving in
steady
htte"lll price. Manufacturinc, Iron is in demand, and
tletb;',.., In Scotch Pio. Iron there has been less
--Lzan than usual, 'and prices keep firm.
/•4
1%14 t Cotis,Ess
n, s expired a few days
~),,-) It the anvils I!
eo.l:!.te3s, pranc.3
.....r(e)sipCnAcielat Edinburgh. The decease 9,
youngest daughter and
TT ariet, was
ttli vilvraliatall: yetsry Illiev, `y was Leigh, pean of Heford
Me:) Who,
she ried to the Earl of Caithness, Nov. 23,1813,rd: Ber-
. leaves issue two sons, the eldest
and'
Hon.
(I.al' Kirried to a two
of Sir. George
st.„,ltchttjs•
Ile7l that inl.Ca WILBERFORCE AND DENIMON.—It iS
of the
to
s., Joha J.2e Archb.ishop of York, at the instance : d
1'1'411(1 the eratt, V,ear of North Cave; has deterni. i?e,
..
4t o,4lCial coiarge against
the Wilberforce to wes.
lireo' salt P. cud that the Archbishop of Cauternm7.,
q th, ha, 1,3 Z1-le Rev. Joseph Ditcher 2 Vicar of .So'!att,i
ni Gliarce 4Eilleolairnissio of inquirt onts.the eutleeb
the Archdeacom of la

~ae public sales to bi
.o go off with increased
slowly recovering from it

Hassan, all his books and documents would be consigned
to the.trustees, Mr. Hassall having previously told him
that he had seen Mr. Commissioner Stevenson, with one of
the trustees, and explained that an assignment had been
made.

Mr. Commissioner PERRY : The solicitor (Mr. Hassan)
told me the deed was not produced.

Mr. MAW : I did not slate that the deed was produced.
I stated that an assignment was made for the whole of my
property, including furniture, books, and papers of every
description. _ _

Mr. Maw was examined upon his books and papers.
The gist of his replies was to the effect that, having been
consigned to the trustees, along with the whole of his
property, they were no longer under his controul, and he
had not such access to them as would enable him to pro-
duce them or take copies of entries in the books. The
books and papers were in the possession of Messrs. Banner
and Son, the representatives of the trustees under the
assignment deed.

On the application of Mr. EveNs, his Hotionn issued a
summons ordering Mr. Banner to produce the books and
papers on Monday, to which time the case was ultimatelS

On the opening of the Court, yesterday, Mr. EvAwe,
(who held a copy of the morning's Albion in his hand,)
addressing Mr. Commissioner Perry, said—l wish to
mention a matter which is personal to myself. It is
extremely unpleasant to do so; for it is difficult to dis-
charge one's duties to one's clients : but I find it always
more difficult to do that when it has reference personally
to myself. The public press is unquestionably an organ
of great importance when properly used; it is an organ
which may cause a deal of mischief, or a deal of good, just
as it is used. With reference to myself, as an officer of
this court, I find a paragraph which is extremely offensive,
and which I will read to you.
Mr. Commissioner PE RIM—You need not, unless you
found anything upon it.
Mr. EvAlcs.—But in justification of myself I wish to do
so. The paragraph states that " Several of the most
respectable practitioners are asked to undertake the job,
but decline to take part in so strange a drama. At length
Mr. Evans consents to act." Now, I don't know anything
more offensive to a solicitor than a paragraph of that
description.

The Count.—lf I had been in Mr. Evans's place, I
should have treated such observations as those with the
contempt they deserve. Mr. Evans's position, to my know-
ledge, and I have sat here for eight years, is sufficient to
render it impossible that he could be affected at all by any
observation coming from any of the papers in Liverpool
or any other place.
Mr. EVA:lc'S.—But there are persons who carelessly read
papers of this description ; and I wish to state the fact.—
There is nothing in which an attorney is more careful
than that he should not pick up a matter which had been
abandoned by any other gentleman; and nobody is more
sensitive on that point than myself. I was applied to by
Mr. Turner, (official assignee,) and found from that gentle-
man that he was called upon to appoint a solicitor, and
that he had called upon one solicitor, Mr. Robert Norris—
than whom a more respectable man cannot be found—and
that Mr. Norris had stated to him that, if he were to take
the appointment himself, 41e should have to give up his
holidays ; and that he, therefore, declined—not because it
was an objectionable matter to himself, but because it was
a personal inconvenience to himself. Upon that, Mr.
Turner, without scouring the town for a solicitor, waited
upon me, and asked me if I would undertake the charge
of the proceedings. I did not think I was doing anything
wrong in doing so; and I don't see why I should be held
up in this manner in the public papers. I think it exceed-
ingly unfair.

The COURT.-1 'wish, before we enter upon the examina-
tion in the matter of Edwin Maw, to call the attention of
Mr. Bardswell, as the attorney of Margetts, who was
committed on Saturday, to the form in which the order
for his committal was drawn up. The Court carefully in-
troduced the one word for the purpose of enabling either
the solicitor or Margetts to make some application to the
Court in extenuation or diminution of his punishment.
The word to which I allude is " earlier,"—the party to be
committed for the period mentioned It the order, "or
until this, or the Court of Appeal in 'Chancery, or the
Lord Chancellor, may ' earlier' order 'to the contrary."
That word was introduced advisedly by me for the purpose
of enabling—as has often been the case, and has happened
once to me in-bankruptcy, and whichis in the knowledge
of a solleitor whom I see present, "(Mr. Pemberton), to
enable .an application to be made 'to the Court before
the' party is actually cornmitted,vhile the warrant is
being prepared. Mr. Pemberton will remember that some
disclosures took place, and that such a course was adopted.
Mr. BARDSWELL.-If it was intended by the Court to
have acted charitably towards the person, it would have
been more open had the Court stated to the man who was

in confinement that, on his expressingeZirlif; for L -
thing he had done, the Court would overlook the punish-
ment. It is not for an attorney to keep his ears open to
•every observation that falls from the Court.

11-r. Commissioner PERRY.—It is more incumbent upon
.parties who are employed in the case to apply for than for
:the Court voluntarily to diminish. There was in this
case such an obstruction, that there might have been not
a serious breach of the peace, but injury to life and limb,
and that very likely would'have resulted, had it not been
for the good temper and q7liscretion shown by the mes-
senger, who applied for the assistance of the police, for
•which I very highly commend him.
Mr. BARDSWELL.—PtIbIie opinion is the other way,—
that there would have been nothing of kind.
Mr. EvAys.—There is: nother matter I wish to referto
;in this strange article. It says :—" The commissioner
thereupon grants warratts of seizure, and away go the
ragged staff of bailiffs," mid so on. Really I had nothing
to do with the matter till after all this was done; the
'bailiffs had discharged their duty before I was engaged
It all.

Mr. BARDSWELL.—The bailiff had been requested*to
-wait until a bailiff had gone over the water, (to confer
'with Mr. Banner.) The case is, however, before the pub-
lic, and the public will.3udge by and bye.
Mr. EvANs was abcat to call Mr. Banner, for the pur-
pose of putting him under examination, when
Mr. BARDSWELL wished to know the name 'of the
creditor at whose instance this sitting was held.
Mr. EvANs.—On behalf of the official assignee, the only
assignee who has yet been appointed.
Mr. BArinswELL.--Ilet us not differ upon a .fact Is
there any creditor at whose instance this sitting is held ?
- Mr. EvANs.—l am not bound to answer that. I appear
for the official assignee.

Mr. BARDSWELL.--Yen have certain powers, and you
cannot transgress or go beyond the act.
Mr. EVANB.—I will *End yon powers very ample, -sir.
Under the 40th section, the official assignee has full power
to make every inquiry.

Mr. BARDSWELL observed that it was not under that
portion of the act that the arrangement was sought to: be
made, but by virtue ota,petition under the control of the

Mr. EVANS contended that it was under the general
provisions of the act of lzukruptcy, as shown by the peti-
tion of the bankrupt. _

➢lr. BAEDSWELL would again ask Mr. Evans ,whether
he was instructed by anytreditor ?
Mr. EVANI3.—I shall not state.

possession, and delivered to you by Mr. Maw ?—No, sir.
Is it taken from books, and papers, and writings relating
to Mr. Maw's business: - -
which I myself have colt
handed to me by Mr. Maw
and papers ?—No, it is not.
An argument followed as to the right of Mr. Evans to
examine the witness on a document, which he prepared in
his position as agent for the trustees, from the statements
of third parties, and not from any statement made by the
bankrupt, or from his books and papers, and which docu-
ment was Mr. Banner's private property, he having a lien
on it.

—lt is taken from in-format in
ected, and not from anything
Is it from Mr. Maw's books

The COURT—Mr. Banner is not obliged to part with it ;
he may produce.
Mr. BANNER—The commissioner has refused me the
money expended in the preparation of the document. He
has decided that it was a voluntary payment
The CovuT—l don't know that I have
thing,
Mr. BANNER—The amount was specially stated, and
you said it was illegal. It is mine; I have paid for it.
The Couav—lt is the duty of parties summoned here
to furnish information—to produce any paper which is
necessary for a full disclosure of any matters which the
court is authorised to inquire into.
Mr. BANNER—This paper is not necessary for the official
assignee ; he may get it as I got it.
Mr. RinnswELL—All the books and papers belonging
to the estate, which were in the possession of Mr. Banner,
are now in the possession of the court.
The COURT—I call upon him to give that list up—to
produce it.
Mr. BARDSWELL—It is taking private matters out of
his possession; it is his own.
His HONOUR.—He may produce it; and, if he does not
wish to part with it, he may read it.
Mr. BANNEE.—I decline to do it : it is my property, and
shall keep it.
By Mr. EVANS.—Do you know the names of the parties
to whom the bankrupt stands indebted, and the amount of
their respective debts ? I don't from memory.--Can you
state by reference to the papers in your possession ? Very
possibly I might.—Will you 'refer to those papers for the
information of the Court ? No, I won't.
Mr. EVANS (sotto voce).—You'll get into a mess, then,
if you won't.
By Mr. EvAiss.—l ask you positively—Can you, by
reference to any papers in your possession, give the in-
formation ? Perfectly, I could not.—Will you refer to
any papers you have in your possession so as to give the
Court every information you can ? No, sir ; I obtained
the information in my private character as an accountant,
and whatever information I had, I so obtained it.—Can you
state from memory, or from any papers in your possession,
who are indebted to the bankrupt, and the amount of
their respective debts? No, sir. I believe there is no
debt due to the estate. -
Mr. EN-Ans.—These are all the questions I propose;
but perhaps your Honour may have some to put.
Mr. BARDSWELL, in reply to the Court, repeated his
'objection to an examination being made on a document
prepared by Mr. Banner, in his capacity of accountant to
the trustees, and in the preparation of which no aid had
been derived from Mr. Maw or his books or papers, all of
which were in the hands of the Court.
Mr. EVANS.—The books and papers don't disclose what
we want.
Mr. BARSDWELL : We are not to be blamed for that. The
bankrupt has to prepare his own balance-sheet.
Mr. EVANS : I don't ask you for a balance-sheet ; I
ask you for information which you are bound to give to
the Court.
The COURT called Mr. Bardswell's attention to the
power of the court te'call upon any person to produce any
books, writings, or other documents in his custody, which
might appear to the Court necessary to a full disclosure of
any matters with which the Court was authorized to in-
quire. Surely, surely, the Court had a right to inquire
into the debts and credits of the estate.
Mr. Bennswgra, maintained that this did not apply to
information gained by a person in his private. character.
Mr. Banner had made the list in the manner he had
stated, he lad a lien upon it, and he believed that no
Court could 'compel him to give it up—that no Court in
the laud had the power over a makes property upon:
which he had a lien—unless they subverted all the laws of
the land.
The Coma (to Mr. Banner): Do you refuse to furnish
the Court with all the information you are enabled to fur-
nish, especially as to the trade, dealings, and estate of the
bankrupt ?—I have already stated why I decline to .an-
swer that question.
Mr. BARDSWELL was proceeding to advise the witness as
to the nature of the answer he should give, when
Mr. EVANS objected to that gentleman framing the

decided any-

answer.
Mr. BARDSWELL appealed to-his Honour whether this
was ..the course which was generally adopted ?
The COURT : The course which has been pursued by the
witness is certainly very far from the course generally
adopted in this court.
Mr. IhnnsweLL : The witness does not refuse to give
'every information in his pewer respecting "the trade,
dealing, and estate of the bankrupt."
Mr. Ev.A.Ns : He has notsaid so.
Mr. BANNER : I say so now.
Mr. BARDSWELL Surely-it must be manifest what is
the object of this inquiry. • Surely the court, in the exer-
cise of its dignity and discretion, should tell the official
assignee—You have got the books and papers, and there
is no evidence before me that these books and paPers don't
contain every information required.
The COURT : You hai-e forgotten what Mr. Evans
stated on Friday—that the books and papers were so
voluminous, that it would take a day to make out a list.
Mr. BARDSWELL : That may be.
Mr. EVANS : Then the information I require is not to
be derived from the books at all.
The COURT : This is important information, no doubt.
Mr. Evlars : Mr. Banner is in possession. of the infor-
mation I want.
Mr. BARDSWELL: Not gained from the bankrupt or
From his books.
Mr. EVANS: I am ,ontitled to all the information Mr.
Banner has.
Mr. BARDSWELL: All the legal information.
Mr. EVA.NS : It noes not depend upon you what is
" legal information."
Mr. EARDSWELL: Ner on this court either.
The COURT : Have you got the answer, Mr. Evans ?
Mr. Evaiis : I have two answers —one from Mr. Ban-
ner, and another by Mr. Bardswell, quite the contrary.
The COURT : You must not interfere, Mr. Bardswell.
Mr. BARDSWELL : Surely the witness is allowed to con-
•fer with his legal adviser,
The question was again put to Mr. Banner, and he
again declined to answer it.
The COURT observed allot he had never known one of
, the commonest rules of the court and one of the common-
est provisions of the act attempted to be so violated by a
solicitor and a witness as now. The duty he had to dis-
charge was a very unpleasant one. He had not sought
it : it was cast upon him, and in the discharge of his duty
he would order an adjudication. He had considered it
since, and notwithstanding the inconvenience and annoy-
ance which had been brought upon him by that decision,
he felt satisfied that he had discharged the duty which he
had sworn to perform.
Mr. BA.RDSWELL had- no doubt that was so.
The question as to whether he would produce the.list,
was again put by the, comet, Mr. Banner again replying
in the negative.
The COURT : Then, be, pleased to furnish, as far asyou
are able, a list of the creditors of the bankrupt.
Mr. lie.2(tint : I decline to be employed by the court fi
any such ,purpose.
Mr. Commissioner PERRY—The court is not employ
you in your charaeter as an accountant, but
Mr. EARNER—I am not bound to la
I beg pardcatfor the interruption.
The CounT—But it is calling upon you, in compliant(
with your undertaking, implied in a previous answer, to
furnish, so far as you are able, a list of the creditors of
the bankrupt, which you say you have now in your pos

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Betts was committed

CHURCH AND STATE."

christianized,

LAST NIGHT.

on Sat

disseMinating God's triit,

principle

into them—or m

session.
Mr. BARDONTIML—I submit that it is not such a ques-
tion as ought to be put, and Ireguest that a note may be
taken of my oljection.
The CoUßT—What is your, objection?
Mr. BARDEIM4I4:: First; [submit that the court can-
not imply what is the meaning of the answer of the
witness to the prisoner's question. Secondly, that there
is no understanding, either expressed or implied, under-
taking to furnish waist of creditors. Thirdly, that the list
so obtained by the witness is a list which he has procured
4‘rom private information, without. reference to the bank-
rapt or his books or papers—by private information pro-
-cured by himself, and without mformation procured from
the bankrupt's books o papers or from the bankrupt, and
that he has a lien on that aist for his.prefessional charges
as accountant, and to the trustees, not to the bankrupt.
Fourthly, that the information so obtained is mere hear-
sapfrom third parties, and no evidence of the existence of
a creditor. Fifthly, that Cue giving of the information
destroys the lien. And, lastly, that.thtiatter portion of
the question assumes that the parties mentioned in that
list are parties who had dealings and transactions with
the bankrupt, of which there is no evidenee:; aad,'as such,
therefort, that it is an improper question.
The CeinzT : It would probably save time if I submit a
question gmilar to the last. I would simply ask the wit-
ness whether he declines?

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economy

Mr. BABAIGWELL : Will your honour first decide upon
these objectiuus. Let us have one question decided n the
first place.

The COURT If I have to decide upon these six objec-
tions, I shall taare to reserve the point; which probAly
may not be neceuary, if I put this question. Will you (to
Mr. Banner) furvish the particulars of the list of debts
owing by the bantrapt, which you say you have with you
' Mr. BARDBWELT, asked for a brief adjournment, in
order that the witneas might have time to consider his
,Answer.

. Mr. Commissioner PERRY observed that he had taken
a great deal of pains, to understand the case ; and after
calling their attention to the provisions of the act, which he
had sworn faithfully to carry out, he again asked whether
Mr. Banner would furnish the particulars of that list ?
Mr. BANNER : No, sir, I cannot furnish it.
The Corn! : Do you mean that you won't ?
Mr. BANNER : Yes, sir.
The COURT: That is your answer.
Mr. BANNER,-Yes, sir.
Mr. BARDSWELE.—PerhapS your honour will allow him
to add "for reasons before mentioned."
Mr. BANNER.—Clearly for reasons
.before mentioned.
I have always given information to this court very readily.., The commissioner himself has always been very kind to
me, and I am exceedingly sorry to be placed in this posi-
tion. It is no seeking of mine, and it is contrary to the
'wish 'of every creditor on the estate, who are the parties
most interested. It (the adjudication) is a matter ema-
nating from the commissioner alone.
The Counx.—l just observe upon.that, that it is quite
open tnthe creditors, if they think fit, to come to this
court with a proper application to annul the adjudication.
But this is not the course.
Mr. BANNER further explained that the resistance to
the authority of the Court (at the works of the bankrupt
at Seacombe) was quite unintentional. observing that the
place bad been obliged to be guarded for two months pre-
viously, to prevent the estate from being pilfered ; and
complained bitterly of. the unjust Manner in which " poor
.Mwetts" beck, treated, he
.having- .acted entirely
iinder vlr. VAnnees) instructions,. and tidying! pro
rperl3l:.cht wo d to Me (Mr; when he* became
Aim of the position of thconoseiver of the Court. He ,

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when Ma

LECTURE BY THE REVEREND W. F. TAYLOR

have any legislation with respect to the Lord's day, because
they would-have no interference with religious matters.

Another effect_would be that the country -would be de-

and Ole_ people might become infidels

and heathens, for aught dit;setit would care. His argument

was, that if the public money were found employed for the

purposes of the constabulary, military and naval forces,

for building gaols, for supporting magistrates, for salary-
ing judges, and for punishing crime, might not the public

money. likewise be employed in building churchei and

Then, said the Dissenters,

let every man— support his own religion. So said he; but
what was to be done with those who had no religion ?
There were millions of peoplefil. this country who were

unable to avail themselves -of the fruits of the voluntary

and the great argument of the Church

was that the State should, by :legal provision, open
churches of such description that the poor might crowd
. .

ght be united to theiii—withjut money

and without price. The recently issued statistics of public
worship showed that in Liverpool 93,000 church and chapel
sittings are required in Liverpool. If the Church and

voluntaryism had left the peOple so far unprovided for,
what would'become of the town, if entirely left tovoluntary-
ism ? Why,they would be given up to heathenism. And how,
h 3 would ask, had the voluntary principle already worked?
The chapels were not found where they were wanted; but

in Hope-street; in Myrtle-street, in Everton Crescent, in
Great Homer-street, and in those places, where, humanly
speaking, they were not wanted, while the densely-popu-
lated parts of the town were left wholly to the care of the
Church of England, so far as she could undertake the neces-
sities of the case. (Cheers.) There was once a-phapel in
Leeds-street, but it was removed to Great Homer-street;
there was once a chapel in Paradise-street, which was
removed to Hope-street; and there was once a chapel in
Lime-street, but it was removed to Myrtle-street. This

was a remarkable proof, shewing that, so far from dissen-
ters willingly gOing among the dense masses of the people,
and building chapels where they were wanted, they had

People were well able to pay. We want, continued the rev.
lecturer, churches built in Liverpool, and throughout the
cluntry, at the public expense, (if the public funds are to be
lavished in building gaols,) where the poor will have plenty
of opportunities of worshipping God according to the dic-
His Word; and we also want ministers, with the
t their hearts, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ

'vestry meeting, at which the usual church-rate was re-
fused, and by which the accommodation at St. John's
ehurch, where the poor 'had free admissiontand which was

„..
forced the necessity of making the State a more befitting
partner for.the Church, by sweeping the House of Commons
of the ” Pope's Brass-band," so that she would be able to

should also

iTherforce

and Co.,—he concluded by expressing a hope that, at the
next -meeting of the Vestry, -not only Churchmen but
Dissenters themselves would vote for the contribut-
ing largely towards the maintenance of God's worship
in this town, and towards the continuance of an •open
and free Church for the poor. (Cheers.) He had
proved, he trusted, that the connexion of "Church and
State;" and the consequent diffusion of gospel truth

,ple, but by com-

sanctioned not only by Ch
mon sense, 'by prudence, and by enlikhiened political

On the proposition of the Rev. Mr. Stone, seconded'by
Mr. Gwatkin, a vote of thanks was, by acclamation,
accorded to the Rev. Mr. Taylor, for his able and elo-
quent lecture. In responding, he observed that the Church
of England was the only "poor man's Mirth" in the
world ; and that, therefore, it had great claims upon
them for sympathy and support.
The singing of the "Doxology" terminated the pro-
ceedings.

The CLIPPER SHIP PIICENIX, John Hoxie, master, arrived
here on Sunday, the 3rd instant, from New York. Among
the cabin passengers were E. P. Moore, Nevi York; Mrs.
Hoxie, ditto ; and Mr. Elmgley, lady, and three children,
British Provinces.

A MUSICAL understood that, in a
week or two, a party of museal artistes, accompanied by
Arthur Napoleon, one of the musical wonders of the age,
will visit Liverpool, and give a series of performances.

IHISTORIC SOCIETY OF LANVISHIREAHD CHESHIRE.
—A special` meeting of this society was held on Wednes-
duy, at the Clarendon-rooms, to consider the extension of
the objects and labours of the society from local to general
and to arrange respecting a better organization. Thomas
Moore, Esq., was in the chair. The report recommended
the formation of the three sections -:-for literature, science,
and archaeology, and the division of the council into
members representing those subjects respectively. The
meetings, however, will be weekly, if possible, during the
session ; the fourth in each month being devoted to the
exhibition and explanation of Miscellaneous objects of in.
terest, and to papers of a general character. The council
have power to enrol as members gentlemen whose tastes
and habits qualify them to be useful to the 'society; and
who are desirous of the honour, without entrance fee.
This privilege, however, is only to exist to the present
year, the time having been extended from the 18th Oct.
A number of gentlemen, eminent for their acquaintance
with some brand' of science, are to be proposed for election
as honorary members. The resohitions were unanhnously.
adopted.
THE SCOTTISH RIGHTS MOVEMEN.T.—The Rarl of
Eglinton has accepted an invitation, presented to him by
a deputation from the. Council of the Association for the
vindication of SOttish rights; to dine with the members,
and the b4nquet is expected to take place in the City
Hall, Glasgow, on the4th Odober. „ ' ;
THE man who is always as cool as a cucumber mutt
WC thilar3 bo OM as "grail,"

ade a statement to the same

By the advice of Mr. Bardswell, Mr. Banner added the
following as the reason why he declined to answer the
question :—Because the information required would
destroy the lien which I had on the papers. . _

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VIENNA, Saturday Evening.—A Constantinople
respondent, under date August 24, states that the Duke
of Cambridge, who has erysipelas in th
Therapia on the 22(1. His Royal Hig
much better

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At this stage of the inquiry, the Court, in the exercise of
the powers it had reserved to itself,ordered the immediate
discharge of Margetts from custody.
The proceedings were then adjourned for an hour, to
give Mr. Banner time to reflect upon the answer he
intended to give to his Honour's question with respect to
furnishing the particulars of the list of creditors. At the
expiration of the hour,

Prince Napoleon is still unwell.
The Viceroy of Egypt arrived for investiture.
The Simla has taken the 4th Foot f
Varna

Gallipoli to

A special correspondent at Varna, under date Angus.
21, writes that the Britannia had sent all her men
transports to Baltschick, and had been cleaned and fumi.
gated.

Mr. BARDSWELL stated that upon reflectionthey thought
that, however injurious and prejudicial the information
which the court required would prove to third parties,
whose names were represented in the list as creditors of
the estate, and though Mr. Banner claimed a lien upon
the papers, he was willing to produce them, and also to
answer any questions touching the names of parties, so far
as Mr. Banner knew, and as to any transactions connected
with the bankrupt's affairs.

- The cholera is abating in both armies and fleets. N 4
movement had taken place, except that the French wen
embarking fascines, gabions, and artillery.

The Artillery were exercised daily in'ball practice or
board boats, and in embarking and disembarking.
VIENNA, SUNDAY MORNlNG—According to the morn.
ing papers a negative answer to the last Austrian note
was delivered here yesterday,
This requires confirmation.
I '• 1 ,bablv that Russia wil

After some further discussion, on the promise of Mr.
Evans that the names should not be made public, Mr.
Banner undertook to furnish to Mr. Evans, by five o'clock,
a copy of the list of creditors, and the amounts stated to
be owing to them by the estate.
On the application of Mr. Evans, the examination was
then adjourned until to-day (Tuesday), at two o'clock, at
which time Mr. Banner also undertook that the deed of
assignment should be produced.
Before the court adjourned, Mr. Bardswell applied for,
and was ordered to be furnished with, copies of all docu-
hich the adjudication was issued, for the pur-
pose lo an appeal to the court above.

intimation has pro, oeen given
refuse the guarantees demanded of her.
PARIS, SUNDAY EVENlNG.—Letters from Maktru4
the 29th ult. announce that tranquillity had been restored
without bloodshed.
During the night the National Guard destroyed, with-
out resistance, some barricades constructed by the in-

surgents.
A number of the disaffected had collected near the
ments on vi
Union Club, but, seeing the firm attitude of the govern-
ment, who had hemmed them in with troops and the
P National Guard, they surrendered without a struggle
about 3 a.m. 300 or 400 prisoners were made, among
') whom was the Marquis d'Albarda, president of the club.
Telegraphic despatches from Vienna show that diplo-
macy is at the present moment ominously active in the
T.l Austrian capital. The expected message had arrived
from St. Petersburg. Prince Gortschakoff was holding
—.l out new expectations and promises to Austria, even going
LAST evening, a lecture was delivered at the Concert- i the length of pretending his master's readiness to accept
nail, Lord Nelson-street, by the Rev. W. F. Taylor, M.A., 1 the four conditions laid down in the notes exchanged
incumbent of St. John's Church, on the desirability of between England, France, and Austria, on the Bth, in
maintaining the existence of the union between the Church , order to induce negociations. The new Russian proposi-
and the State. There was a crowded audience, and the . tions, we are assured, are altogether illusory, and imply
most enthusiastic feeling pervaded it. the maintenance of a peculiar Russian protectorate in
Mr. Nicssow, one of the churchwardens of St. John's, I Turkey under a changed form. Nevertheless they are
having been called to the chair, made some opening ob- entertained by Austria, and are likely to figure in Count
servations, and then introduced Buol's next notes to the Western courts.
The Rev. W. F. TAYLOR, who was received with loud The Prussian Minister is in close and continual com-
cheers, accompanied by the Kentish Fire. He ad- munication with Prince Gortschakofl
dressed himself to the subject of " Church and State," Official intelligence has been received that the expedition
because it was not less important than the great ! against the Crimea is about being carried into affect.
controversy between them and Rome, inasmuch as if the Marechal de St. Arnaud, the Commander-in-Chief, had
I
Church of England were separated from the State, the arrived from Constantinople, and the movement was to
only bulwark against the encroachments of Rome would • take place on the 2nd September. Despatches from Con-
be removed. A striking proof of this lay in the fact that 1 stantinople of the 24th state that, far advanced as were
in no country, with the single exception of America, the preparations for an expedition, it was still uncertain
where there was no established Church, could dissent be whether the project would be carried out, be greatly modi-
found to obtain existence. America was exceptionai, fled, or be abandoned. The generals and admirals of the
because hers was an anomalous case, as Protestant- two services were to meet in a council of war, when the
ism formed the basis of her people—she, in fact, being an I question would be considered and decided.
off-shoot from Protestant Britain, and the feelings, and BOMARSUND, AUG. 20. It appears from the plans
habits, and tastes of Protestantism predominating there. i found in the fortress that Russia entertained most exten-
Therefore it was that mere dissent could obtain a footing sive projects with respect to the future of Bomarsund.
there ; but other countries were not so circumstanced— The defensive works of this place were intended to receive
for example, in Spain, Portugal, and Italy, it was impos- additions which would have made it the most formidable
sible for Dissenters to obtain a footing. And why was position in the Baltic, and have rendered them superior in
this ? Because in those countries there was no Protestant strength to those of Sweaborg and Cronstadt. This dis-
State Church : there was a Popish State Church, every, while proving the importance of the service
where there was no liberty of thought, and no liberty of rendered to maritime Germany, as well as the Scandina-
discussion, and where every individual was compelled to vian states, by the capture of Bomarsund, also proves that
submit to the dominant power and ecclesiastical despo- the dangers of Russian ambition are not less great for the
tism which formed essential portions of the Romish system. north than for the south, and that if it had been allowed
Dissenters maintained that voluntary efforts were sum- time to develope itself, in a few years the Sound would
cient to carry on the work of evangelization. and truth ; have been no more in safety than the Bosphorus.
but he proceeded to show that, if they were to trust th BELGRADE, AUG. 25.—A firman is expected ordering
the voluntary principle, the Church of England would be that Turkish paper money shall circulate in Servia. In
overthrown, and Rome would make short work of Dis- several of the German papers it has been said that the
centers. Rome was now lending all her efforts to over- army-corps under General Mamula, in Dalmatia, is to be
throw the State Church, her ulterior object being to crush dissolved, and 4,000 or 5,000 pack-horses sold. The report
Protestantism altogether. He called upon all true Pro- is devoid of foundation.
testants to form themselves into a compact phalanx to MERCANTILE FIILURES.—The Lloyd of Pesth says :
resist all such efforts, convinced that not only our coin- " The failure of the house of Hoffmann and Sons has led
mon Protestantism, but the welfare of our country to the suspension of payments of that of Gabriel Franckl,
and the independence of our nation were essentially bound of Pesth ; and the houses of Woerowach and Maghar have
up with the maintenance of the Established Church of been compelled to suspend payments in consequence of
this country. (Applause.) It was a great misconception to the failure of the house of Werthemsteim. The failure of
suppose that we were opposed to what was called the volun- Joseph Levi, of Trieste, is also announced."
tary principle, if properly. understood ; for the fact was The following from Jassy, of the 20th, is published in
that the property of the Church of England was originally the Lloyd of Vienna :—" A considerable change has taken
acquired by voluntary contributions, being bequeathed place in the position of the Russian army. The object
hundreds of years ago, in the tenth century, and even appears now to be principally that of fortifying the line
anterior, in some respects ; and it was now as much the of the Sereth. The points now strongly occupied and
private property of the Church, as was the property of any fortified are Bodo, Congests, Scheix, Rotunda, Baken,
nobleman in the country his private property. And it Beykau, Kukowa, Adschews, Tekush, Lungose, and Ga-
would not only be unjust to apply this property to secular latz. The head-quarters are at Roman. It is said that
purposes, but it would be sacrilege in any government orders have been given not to abandon the line of the
doing so. (Cheers.) However, the mere voluntary principle Sereth, except at the last extremity."
would not meet the necessities of the case ; and if they A letter from Bucharest, of the 23d, in the same journal,
' depended upon it alone, the great mass of our says :—" The Turkish troops have commenced quitting
people must be left in hopeless ignorance, unac- , this place. The advance guards of a corps of 80,000 men
quainted with God, unacquainted with Christ, and unac- are marching from various points on Galatz and Ibraila.
quainted with Christ's salvation. He then contrasted The bulk of the army is advancing by Moldovani and
the working of the voluntary principle with the prin- . Ursitscheni. It is said that. Halim Pasha is to command
the army which is to attack the positions of Ibraila,
sciple upon which the Church proceeded in her opera-
tions, as connected with the State. The Church main- Galatz, and Fokschan. A letter from Silistria, of the
tamed that it was their bounden duty to make such provi- 20th, states that the troops which were collected at
tion for the poor that they could hear the word of God Oltenitza and Kalarasch have marched towards the north.
without money and without price —to keep the It is said that the two corps will meet near Slobosia, and I
Lord's day holy, and to use every means to make the peo- will then march by Kekemez on Ibraila."
ple observ'e God's ordinances —whereas dissent would not

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MONDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 4.

LONDON.—On 'Change, Tallowdull, at 655. 9d. to 665.,
on the spot. Cotton firm-400 bales sold. Pig Iron
improved; sales at 83s. Large demand for Saltpetre, at a
small advance. Linseed Oil slow at 335. 6d.
From Antwerp and other Belgian markets, the prices of
Wheat, Rye, and Oats, are reported declining, with dull
demand, but Barley and Buck Wheat range higher. Pota-
toes were obtaining rising prices.
In Holland the results of the harvest are in the highest
degree satisfactory for the whole country, with a few rare
In some places the Wheat crop is double that
The crop of potatoes promised larger than

of last year.

for some years