The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-30 00:00:00

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could not of course he expected that he should now
enter into any detail of those circumstances which
bad rendered necessary this communication. It
was, howe►er, matter of notoriety that acts of the
greatest violence and outrage had been committed in
si.me districts of the country ; and although the con-
duct of the rioters might be, in some degree, traced
to the high price of provisions and the reduction of
work, sti:l there was no doubt that these outrages
were fomented by persons who had views and objects
in thus fomenting distu+•iaancea which it was the duty
of r. overnment tocoutiteract. The repeal of the Orders

impost upon , .qu._
don baring been put, the Bill was read a third tinse.after which
several new clauses we►e ',moused by Mr. VA WSITTART. but
they were utterly inaudible in the Gallery, from the low voice
in which they, were read by the Clerk.
Mr. WESTERN then proposed an Amendment, by leaving
ont all the words by which a Tax was laid upon Horses in Hus-
bandry.
Mr. BROUGHA NI supported the Amendment; and Mr.
V A NSITTA KT opposed it.
Mr. (TILES enquired whether the duty was likely to amount
to such a sum as to reader it worth while to do such essential in-
jury to the agricultural interests of the country?
Sir C. BURRELL proposed instead of it a tax apse hot-
houses and green-horses.
After a few words from the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER, a division took place, and the Amendment was nega-

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in Council might tend, by increasing employment, to I DISTUItRANC CS IN THE INTERIOR.
withdraw many from this system of riot and outrage; Daring our absence from the Gallery, Lord Cu.
but Government would have incurred a henry respon. tlereagh brought up a large sealed packet of papers
sibility, if, with the knowledge of the documents ' by order of the Prince Regent, being the information
now communicated to the House, and aware that the to which his Royal Highness had in his Message al-
hopes of increased employment might be disappoint- , laded, and which hestated should be laid before Par-
ed, or that it might ple4se Providence to inflict the liament.
calamity of another deficient harvest, if they had j Lord CASTLEREAGH then rose and said, that
nut advis..ll his Royal Highness the Prince Regent to j the course of proceedings which he should recom-
make this communication to Parliament. Every mend, would render it unnecessary for him no.v to
measure had been adopted on the part of Govern- trouble the House at any length upon this important
meat : the military had been called in to assist the subject. He should first propose that the House
civil power, and had conducted themselves with the should express .its thanks to the Prince Regent
utmost zeal and moderation ; special commissions had for the Message his Royal Highness had sent, and
been issued for the trial of several persons for acts of should give its assurances that no time should be
riot and outrage, some of whom had paid the forfeit lost in taking the. subject• into consideration, by ili-
a their lives; others had since been taken into cus- stituting such proceedings as might be deemed expe-
tody, and been ordered for trial. But under the cir- dient. His Lordship's next proposition would be,
cumstatices of the present state of thedisturbed districts, • that the Papers he had jtevtlaid open the table should
liic Majesty's Servants had considered this comm unica- be referred to a Committee of Secrecy, not for the
lion absolutely necessary, in order that measures purpose of recommending any measures to the House,
'night be a.!opted for the security of the lives, and . but merely of examining the, private information
the safety of the property, of his Majesty's peace- communicated, of laying the substance of it before
able and loyal subjects. It would of course rest ; Parliament, in such a term as would give the House
Nll' It the Committee, to whom the document were to • a distinct and fair view.of ,the actual state the.4j2-
be referred, to consider what- measures. dein neaes- I.ftirbantes *Tad' subsisfed in Ilk atuw.
. sary ; he did Lot, however, mean to say, that his 'By the Message of the Prince Regen 4 however; "it
,MajPsty's Government had not formed an opinion its' was by no means intended thet*Government should
to what measures would he regeisite. His Lordship be discharged from the burden of submitting to the
concluded by moving an Address to the Prince Re- country their opinion upon the subject, and of bring-
gent, returning thanks to his Roy al Highness fur the jug forward such measures as to them appeared like-
communication,' stating, that the House would take ly to correct the evil. His Lordship would not now
into their serious consideration the documents re- enter into these topics ; since, after the Committee •
• ferved to, and expressing their determination to con- should have reported, a much more fit opportunity
cur in such measures, as from the information corn.' would be afforded ; and as nothing could be more!
municated, might appear to Ise necessary, with a injurious than that the.matter should be premature-,
view to the security of the lives and property of his ly discussed, so nothing could be more advantageous
ZiajoAy's peaceable and loyal subjects. than that it should be fully, and fairly investigated,
Earl STANHOPE had no objection to the words ! that the opinions of all might be ascertained, and
of the Address (thougli he wished for sonwreaplana- iif possible accommodated. At present any disci°.
titbit as to the measures intended), provided there was I sure, even of the general outline of the plan propos.'
a Aipittition that the measures to be adopted, should ed by Ministers to be pursued, would only serve
not be in violation r.f the Constitution. He therefore sto excite feelings far better suppressed, and to lead
moved, as an Amendment to the Address, " not in to Ascessions far better postponed. His Lord:.
vielntlon 401 the Constieuthes." f ship's reluctance did not arise_ from any unwilling-
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The Fart of Lt V iCRPOOL said, it would be
111-,ltsy !n coraus to suggest any measure at the pre-
sammett, when the documents laid upon the
ttLie µ ore to be referred to a Secret Committee, wise
wev a' curse to tors their opinion uto what mee-
sari.% would be noceesary. The state of the districts
in wtich the eets of violence and aetrage alieded to.
by its Noole Friend had been emerultted, refttletall
this ronimueicatioik siecossert, and it would be for
the S. crPt Committee to consider, after beieg inform-
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*IMPERIAL PARLIZiaIiI7I. &We, what measure* were necessary. • With respect solicit shier aid, while there remained a hope that
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—or-- `to what the Neble Earl had said of a violation of the the established laws of the Constitution would be
HOUSE OF LORDS, Jurre 9.9. • Constitution, he only thought it necessary to say, f:iiiantdluattilettfaeltiteten tforonthi etheexsigamenecyiniiiNyVitiit4ah 1 raesgaterd'otoe
In the Committee of Privileges on the claim of Sir Charles Call of the House, his Lordship was prepared in a
DO glas to de. Titles and Diguities of Mprquis of Queensberry, 'that.. toocc.eisional ineusutes„
usual • practice o
practice of
tie'
lawwersessavnoiwitferdingethe-
dec. Sir Samuel Romilly and lir. Adam attenOed on twhulf or meat of the prove -satisfactory to
the Claimant, and the Attorney-General (Sir'''. Mouser) on the hclit part of our liberties and security, and that these way that, lie trusted,, would
part or the Crawl The evidence on the
wia um,. ti,enagh, and the rumor consideration 01115 1 po
part of the Clain/ant ' measures were not the exercise of any power in the the House to thew, that previous to the discharge of
tiii Tioursday. .. , -"Ig- lied
I Government, but of the power vested in Parliament the Call, Ministers were not in possession of such
The Pestage Duties' Bill, the Printed Goads Haunt, 11111, the .for the preservation of the Constitution, to resort to intelligence as would authorize them iii resorting to
;rim Tn.:m ID iry E.' Bill, Eseheititer Bills' Bill, shit Irish SIM. - .
measures whenever they should see a the Legislature: he was also ready, at the proper
s tin Pay and Clothing Bill,.were brought up from the Commons, such occasional
• and read *Mist time. . necessity for so doing. time, to detail to the
House those particular circum-
str. Palmer's Per-Cen,age Bill was also brought up by Sir Is Lord HOLLAND did not see any objection to the stances which had subsequently °fevered, to induce
• Thomas Turioa itad other Tilembers.
The) Bellito Tladellill, the Unlawful Oaths i , and c
' 88. th . Amendment of his Noble Friend, and thought it thorn to take„the step „hick they had now adopted.
s Riot Bill. acre :read A second time, runt committed for te--, highly deserving of support, looking to ,a contem- Of this his Lordship was certain, that in Govern-
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tooemw. I plated suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, to which +tient there was no disposition to shun the discussion
• The UMW Bill, theft:mt. &kite Duty Bill, the Irish Cos-
Bill, tom the Landt.
Tax Bedentptioin .. lriseedment Bill, ' measure, no consideration of times or circumsia,, nces of the subject before, or to be deprived of the assist-
• pealed torough Committee.. and were reported. I could induce hint to give hit consent. ; ante ofd full attendance, but the lion. Gentleman
Lord Redesdate's Bill for the better Adielohtratlon a ..10- 1
Earl STANIIOVE objected to placing the power himself wopld recollect that on Friday, the day after
Tree, was rend a second lime. . w
The Parish Regisfen. Bill premed through a Committee, with which would be derived from a suspeusion :of the the Call was discharged, he (Lord Castlereagh)
• Ame.dint uts, striking out the Clauses relative to Dissenters, I Habeas Corpus Act in the hands of the pro t Mi. stated to the Hotise that he should be authorized to
111/d MIS ordered to we rioted aramended.
The Report of Lord kiedesdate s .
• Permanent Insolvent Deb- ' nisters, particularly the Prime Minister, who id not make a communication to it on this subject. His
"Mee Bin was taken into coosideration,and some further Amend- I know his own mind—who one week declared is de- 1 Lordship concleded by proposing an Addrees„
mews hiving been made by his Lordship, including a proviso ,
termination to uphold the Orders in Council, and the thanking the Prince Regent for hie most gracious
for seriaestratiuglhe Pay of Officers in certain cases, and an- :
Joher,proviso res,:eming persons, who by 0011 sarrendering_ in i pext week consented to their repeal—and who, on Message, and assuring his Royal Highness that the
• atiselaree of their hail had fixed the hail with the debt. The . his (Lord Staflhope's) Gold Bill, last Session, deter. necessary Proceedings would be forthwith instituted
Bill 'boa ordered to be printed as amended. 1
Mr. If.ingshen; from the East India House presented several • mined at five oiclock:t6 kick it oet,at sixo'clockto kick to secure the lives 'and property of the loyal Inhabi-
seceents ordered by the Loots, which were ordered to lk oi the 'it out 9 and at seven o'clock to kick it out---but who, tants of the disturbed districts.
tso i.k. it fire minutes after seven, telter holding a little Ca. Mr. WHITLItEAD said that he did not rise to
TlseeMeripris of LANSDOWNE gave notice of a Motion for
toesserrow, for an Addremto the Prince Regent. praying for a billet Council, determined to support it—so mach for oppose the motion. •He professed his ardent wish
copy of the Iterot of the Coremierionen appointed to Enquire consistency. that the Noble Lord would, as he asserted, be able
• ttoseetog the Coat hones of Jersey.
'Oa doe Motion of Fart GROSVENOR, the Sinecure Bill I The Amendment of Earl Stanhope was negatived, satisfactorily to spew why he suffered the Call to be
was tend a ersteme, and ordered to be printed, and his Lord- rand the Address agreed to, and ordered to be pre- discharged before ;,e made any communication to the
Nis *is Aare notice of his intention to ewe the second reading OR ‘, rented to the Prince Regent by the Lords with white House : as affairs now stood such conduct appeared
Friday, .if the prints were then on the table, it being understood .
between his Lordship and Earl Stanhope, tied the Bill of the staves. to require a very ample apology to the peaceable in-
latter relative to Dissenters, which stands tor Friday, should I On the Motion of Lord Viscount SIDMOUTH, habitants of the country. He sincerely hoped that
hay.• the precedence. ' the sealed bag of papers laid ott the table was ordered after the Secret Committee should have been ap.
The Committee 6o the Bank Token Bill was, on the motion
of the LORD CHAN. • EbLOR, postponed till Thursday. to be referred to a Committee of ,Secrecy, to consist pointed to report upon the papers sealed and deliver-
EX-OFFICIO INFORMATIONS. of eleven 'Lords, to be chosen by ballot, the ballot ed at the Bar this day, it would be found that no ex-
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Lord HOLLAN 0 adverted to the notice he had -formerly to take place to-morrow, at four o'clock, and the traorditiary measures were necessary; and as the No.
Of Ives his Intention to present a Bill, relative to Ex-Odirlo
Informations, and stated, that it was his intention to present tle.,, Lords to be summoned. hie Lord had deprecated any ill-advised discussion,
Bill I. the course of the present week. Adjourned till to-morrow (this day). so he (Mr. Whitbread) deprecated any ill-advised at-
Prt.OVINCIAL DISTURBANCES. .. tempt to do good from which so mach injury might
Lord. Viscount SIDMOUTH laid en the table a; HOUSE OF COMMONS. ensue.—[hear, hear !]—Examples from our own
settled bag of papers, containing the information al- ? The following Bills were rend* third time and pasted:—the and from the history of other countries were not
tutted to in the Prince Regent's Message. Carnatic Commissioners' Me, the Irish County Police Bill, and
be Exchequer Bills in Aid.' Bill. 1 wanting to thew with what extreme caution we
The Order of the Day having been read, the Mes- Tae following were read a second time:—the East India should proceed, and, profiting by dear.bought ex-
sage of his Royal Highness the Prince Itegeet, was Debt Transfer Bill, the Irish Stamps'
thin.
should and thbee Irish Tr
committed e -ee.. erience, he trusted that the subject would be die.,
Lead at the table. 1 sury Bilh' Bill; it was ordered that ;
tomorrow. cussed without passion and decideti without precipita.
Lord Viscount SIDMOUTH in rising to move an ; The Reports of the Dublin Light Meuse Bill, and the Turkey lion. After the whole matter should have been in-
Address this llce al Highness, trusted there would Tratithirdetinill, weo re
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- m brought up, and the Bills ordered to he read a
vestigated, he could not avoid indulging a saneuitie
toow.
be an unanimous concurrence on the part of their I Tie Newfoundland Spirits' Bill went through a Committee.— hope, that it would be found that the law of the coon.
Lordships in expressing their gratitude for the tom- Repsoctort-EmorrEvow.
he would move try, as it now.staiels, properly executed, aud that the
enunicatioit, and in declaring their determination to EY gave notice, that on Thursday itproperly
; for Matt Accountofall Sums toued from the Treasury for Improve- power of the Crown, as now stands, ex.
take into consideration the documents presented to , lanolin Nary-le-bone Park. • ercised, were quite adequate to the restoration of
them, and to adopt such measures as the information ' _ Mr. LI9NC4, after a few prefatory remarks, obtained leave to
communicated might appear to requite for the safety , b ent in a Bill to amend the 39th and 40th Geo. 111. relative to tranquillity:
unchained Army Prize-money. His object was to facilitate its Mr. WILBERFORCE entirely participated in
and security of his Majesty's loyal and peaceable ', appication to the purposes of Chelsea Hospital. the hope, that nothing would be found in the docu-
subjects, and the restoration of tranquillity. He : Mt• WHITBREAD enquired whether the Correspondence
or Cling the grant of the Warrant for the election of J orals in meets laid upon the table to call for any extraordi.
should afterwards propose to refer the Papers to a Jersey would be laid before tbe House ? • nary measures. He would not allow himself even
Con•mittee of Secrecy, and It was not for him, at I Nb. tiOU LBORN replied in the negative; it being of great
the present moment, to anticipate what measures
i tench and in some narts of a private nature to express an opinion, lest it might give rise to feel-
the Sn:nr-Writ was ordered for. Grampound,.in the room of the ings that ought to be banished from all minds, that
might by that Committee be deemed necessary. It : Horourable C. A. F. Cochrane, who has accepted the Chiltern might produce dissent instead of union, for the aC.•
es..s with gr-at pain that his Majesty's servants had Hundmis.
toenel themselves compelled to resort to this step,RN gave notice that on Wednesday be would
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complishment of an Objector the greatest magnitude,
Imovebring an a Bill to correct an error In the Local not being at all acquainted with the nature of the
bet toe ne-essity -that existed, rendered it a duty im- ; Militia Act. papers supplied, and not having been present on Sa-
peretive upou them, to advise his Royal Highness to ; On the question that the Assessed Taxes' Bill be read a second
. time, Mr. WESTERN repeated the objections be had made to turday when the Message-was brought down, he was,
-*Ace the --It communication to Parliament. it, the I " horses In husbandry on a former day. Theqoes- i perhaps, of all men, the least competent to offer any
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thus to 3 the Heusi; but he amid not avoid rising to
express a lAA, that the utmost calmness and modera-
tion might be observed in the deliberation. Nearly
connected u he was with a district of the country
most disturbed, he felt it necessary to conjure the
House, that the case of these unfortunate and mis-.
guided people might be fully and candidly weighed,
that the result might be the restoration of order,
unanimity, prosperity, andlappiness.
' The question was then put, and the Resolution
was agreed to nem. con.
Lord CAS t'LEREAGII then moved, that the

Papers he had this day presented, should be re- I
ferred to a Committee, that it be a Committee of
Secrecy, 'and that the number of Members be twen-
ty-one, which were severally ordered. His Lord-
ship likewise mowed, that the Members be chosen by
ballot.
Mr. WHITBREAD. protested against this mode
of proceeding, since it would give the Noble Lord
the appcintment of every Member of the Commit-
tee. He wished that the Members of it should be
publicly named and chosen, that the House, and not
the Noble Lord,might have the formation of:the COM.
mittee.—[Hear!
Lord CA' MI:REACH persisted in his motion,
since he was certain that on no side of the House on
such a question would party feelings be exercised; he
was convinced that it would be treated by Parliament
in a manner, which, while it did it honour, would
give satisfaction to the people.
Sir F. BURDETT, looking at the precedents to
which Mr. Whitbread had referred, could not help
k. feeling great jealousy as to the conduct of Govein-
meat ; be hoped that the bounds of the Constitution
would not a new be transgressed by them. The
mode in which the Committee was formed, if the sa-
tisraction of the people were looked to, was of the
atmost importance.—[Hear, hear!) It ought to
be of such a description that the country would
place reliance upon its widom and impartiality, and
not to be merely composed of the creatures of Ministe-
rial nomination.
The question, that the Committee be chosen by bal-
lot, was then put and carried, though there were a'
long number of dissentient voices.
On the question that Members prepare lists, and
appear ft-morrow to put them into the classes ap-
pointed for their reception,
Mr. WHITBREAD declared, that he should not'
attend for that purpose, as experience had shewn
that it would be useless, since any list he might
prepare would be smothered in the vast heap of
names supplied by the Noble Lord and his political
friends.
It was ordered that the Papers communicated by
the Prince Regent should remain sealed until the
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peso, or fear •in esirsing what course Ministers pointment a the Committee.
woeid suggest, but it originated in an opinion that • ' ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS.
neither the House nor the country being in possesaion Sir W. SCOTT rose for the* purpose of moving for
of the facts, were not prepared for any measures leave to Wing in s Bill to regulate Ecclesiastical
founded upon those facts. On a former day an-lion. Courts. 14 commenced by a learned examination
Gentleman (Mr. Brougham). had adverted to'delay,• of the origißat institution of the Ecclesiastical Courts,
of which he 'ceased Government of being gouty in bet aitboegh detached sentences were caught, the
not calling for 'the aid of Parlideveste at an:earlier general thread of the narrative was altogether lost in
petio4 of the Session. Hie Lesdship felt confident
,rnegatle7. He quotedibe opinion of Lord Bacon,
that he shonki be able to pesnutditles House that it to lien dint some alterations were even then deemed
was to be attributed to a: juetifisWe reluctance to necessary, and referred to the attempts made by

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