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4 pony on thteptesence af theVedi all nguished visitor. ol r.
HuniiliGtiom,intifor tbeii.ajmeeefia reside= Ati the
long-endured nweepation oftlieirt chartered rights, they
could; ham bad mo`postihili fel-D(4440 itinoiogit them!'
and imotiglythem torOls.tilitikfttlinr'gess, as Well as a
tried pattiot.6, r,•fift spoke, in 00s/wisest terms of ap-
plause a *. Hulle'e intrepidity, in almost singly, and
certainly pie•estorp,4l Voileavouring to stem the tog-
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rent of, corr,uptacm, .tp,iippose the biuer task of rei-
tienifnenten the profligate and wasteful expenditure
of public money, at a time 'when the industrious and
middle clasteP were:fainting under the burdens of insa-
tieMe taxation. But, he said, abuses of this nature had
been so ably end fully. exposed to them in the admirable
week of his Hon. Friend, that he would (and particu-
larly as he saw in the room many owners and occupiers
of land) speak to:them, on a subject of the highest im.
pomace to the country at large, but more especially to
all who coatineed to desire any income, either from the
industry or realproperty of the country; but even in this,
Mr. M. said, it was chiefly his aim to introduce that sub-
ject, in the hope that souse gentlemen in the room Whom
he had in his eye, and whom he knew to be eminently
qiialifiellt to Aueiitaie the subject, would favour the coin-
piny with their sentiments. Mr. M. said he alluded" to
the &raffia operation of taxation at present on all the
industrious classes of society; whether tradesmen, ma-
nufacturers, or farmers ; for by the operation of mea-
sures which he would endeavour to explain, they were
now paying taxes in a double, and some even in a three-
&ld ems sure of their property. Thus the same amount
of taxes whielo, in 1812, it required of the farmer only
one bushel of wheat to pay, it now requires! nearly three;
consequently, as to him, the effect of that taxation on his
property was nearly threefold greater now than when
these taxes were iuoposed. Mr. M. then went on to ex.
plain that the taxes, which were levied when by means
of an excessive issue of paper-money every thing was
raised nominally and extravagantly in price, were now to
be paid in amount the same, but under the circumstances
of a greatly reduced currency, and by the sacri-
fice of property two or three times as great. He
said it was utterly impossible this could long
•cootinue; and explained the operation of the
infamous Suspension Acts, and the equally insane
As t called by Mr. Peel's name, before the account be-
tween the debtor and creditor, whether public or pri-
vate (which had been deranged by the reduction on
Cash-payments) had been equitably arranged. Mr. M.
said that it was always satisfactory, when the same
conclusion could be come at by different means. Ile
concerted in Mr. Huine's opinion that no substantial
good would arise to the real interests of this deeply-
injured country till there was a full, free, pure, and
equ .1 representation of the people in Parliament. And
who, tic asked, would libel the English people se
wroasiy--as to say they were not able to manage their
own affairs ? What had been the consequences of their
being nearly excluded from the management of timer, •
everrAine ?ow knew, many already felt, alkali in the
issue. would feel. Mr. M. showed how the present
system was in different ways destroying all real pro-
pel ty, and explained its operation in a manner so clear
and impressive, as to call forth repeated cheers. He
concluded by hoping that his worthy friend on his left
hand, and another gentleman who be knew was
present. would cuter more fully into the discussion.
On this suggestion being marked with great ap-
plause,. !t•eN
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Mr. WtLTER PALMER sal4:, I 'rite, with great
humility, but with grateful feelings, to return you my
warmest thanks fur this mark of your favour. Next
to the high sense I entertain of the honour you th is
day conferred on me, in County Hall, I fed the plea-
sure and satisfaction arising from the circumstance of
Ely being the cause of Mr. Hume's presence here to.
day. Gentlemen, I find myself amongst friends, and
therefore claim your indulgence, being quite unequal
to follow Mr. M. upon the subject on which he has
been speaking ; indeed he has so occupied the grounds as
to leave me but little room to add my remarks. It is a la-
mentable fact that farmers are compelled to devote a
portion of their time, which ought to be solely occu-
pied in the cultivation of their land, to the study of
matter of a very intricate nature, to make them under-
stand what is to done with the produce of their farms,
or rather what is to become of themselves. Much
has been said on the subject of the fall of prices, by a
person looked up to as a great political economist (I
mean Mr. Ricardo,) and which has gone forth to the
world, and I fear bas tended to deceive and mislead
many persons; in which opinion, at least, I am by no
means singular. However much I may approve of
his sentiments on Parliamentary Reform, and some
other subjects, on others I humbly differ with him. I
will now read a few extracts flout his speeches
relating to the passing of Peel's Bill, upon which
I shall found two questions. In his evidence
before the Committee on Mr. Peel's Bill, Mr. Ricardo
said, that " the measuremight produce a fall in prices
to the amount of 4or 5 per cent." In his speech in
support of the Bill, May 24, 1819, he said, " the
proposed mode of returning to Cash Payments ap-
peared to him the easiest thing that could be imagined.
He would venture to state, that in a few weeks all
alarm (about fall of prices) sepuld be forgotten, and
at the end of the year we should forget that we had
ever entertained it." And in his speech of Feb. 8,
1821, lie said Peel's Bill, " if it bad any effort on
prices, could have only caused them to fall Alper cent.
that being the degree in which it had raised the value
of money." I would ask Mr. Ricardo how it has hap-
pened, that since the passing of that Bill, the prices of
our farms (for I see many brother farmers in this room)
have fallen 50 per cent.? And, secondly, what security
have we that prices will not fall lower than in 17901. I
hope that the occupiers of the soil will not deceive
• themselves by looking for a Corn Bill to relieve their
distresses. 1 never was an'advocate for that measure
(though surely it would have been beneficial to me, oe-
_; my own land, if it could have been so to any
so unjust towards the great mass or the people,
`-;a1 wily to landlords, tithe lords, and thou,

be by redeted ttaxiSlign ; bjd a,tle4alpelinii 11);
wblic creditpufor it is, folly app jay lUcc. to.,tutpos.e.,
that their obligation is to be heid spered, nnd al) othersl
violated. 111 prices the Britiih 'firnier does not want.:
vtgailrptiees, titid- to be aliOWed 1:0-,pr-Oss and anin7
the fruits of his inditstry, and h,t .10. ham it takelY.o92l
him by the rapacious hand of IssisuOsvernans%
what he wants; but what will never bas allowed, but
under a Reformed Parliament—(load applause)—and
that, Gentlemen, we shall never obtain (for there are
two factions , Whig and Tory, in the House of Commons
equally hostile to the measure) but through the means'
of that monster of consumption and corruption, as a
Ministerial Member most incautiously said its the House
of Conn sons,—that heal, contracted ,by Parliaments of
Boroughtnungers. Gentlemen, I have already taken so
much more of your time than I had any claim to, that I
shall only repeat how sincerely 1, thank you for all
your favours conferred upon me. .
PRICE OF STOCKS TIIIS DAY AT •O'NE O'CLOCK.
Rank Stock. WI 51 India Stock.
S per Cent. Red....7Q 651 I Ditto Roads 11.. s 66s s.
3 per Cent. Con South Sea
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31 Per Cent 8611 South Sea Old Atm
4 per Ceuta—
per Ce tit s. Navy. —6OOl. Is. 2s. pis.
3 percent • --Smnll 2s.pm.parlls.pin
Long Ann .. 193-161 4; India for ditto.
Insp. 3.per Cent [Con. for Acct.....77ii
Irish 6 cer Ce4t...., Lott. Tickets. --W. oe..

L011tDON:

SATURDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 29, 1821.

The way in which the French and English Ultras
endeavour to blazon forth dreadful disorders, as grow-

ing out of the spirit of independence manifested by the
Spanish people, is a proof that wherever the cry of
freedom is raised, it is sure to be attacked with all the

malevolence that hireling wickedness can dictate. We

■re told w•itb exultation that one regiment of Spanish
soldiers has attacked another, and, as a matter of

course, that the Royalists were victorious. That the
Petticoat-maker and his Ultra Myrmidons should try

to make the people hate each other. is natural. To

the Km G's 'Ministers, to the Clergy and the Ultras, to
their acts and misrlekds, the people of Spain ought to
attribute every misfortune the country labours under.

They have given rise to the bands of marauding flue-

rillas, and to the op;bosition to the laws, the massacre
of Cadiz, and the disrespect sheen to Royal Authority.
To similar causes may the people of Ireland attribute
the present misfortunes of their oppressed country.—
We have repeatedly foretold, that instead of call ring
the minds and appeasing the discontent of the people'

of Ireland, the musket and the gallows would be the,
remedies applied, and facts now bear us out. the
hirelings exclaim, *, What shocking outrages! thi
strong hand of the law should put them down !" The
strong hand of the law and a •igoar beyond the law

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have been tried in vain for seven centurirP, and have

failed. No attempt was ever made to remedy the manifold

causes that gave birth to outrage ; no system of kindness
adopted by absentee or resident landlords to amend the
miserable condition of the people. Distrain, sell up
and imprison the oppressed tenantry we e the cure.
The abominable oppression of Parsons, whether as
Magistrates or Rectors, the exactions of Tythe-Farm-
ers and petty Magistrates, and the letting of the land
to different tenants, one over another, until these varied
scenes of legalized plunder drove the unfortunate peo-
ple to illicit distillation in order to keep a bowel over

their heads, have been the blessings of Ireland ; for
if they neglected paying the Task-masters, their fate
was that of a Noble Marquess's tenantry in Kerry, or
those of a certain very Noble Lord in Limerick. The
condition of the unfortunate Bipeds of Ireland,
the recent ExEcuvioNs, and the crimes that en-
forced them we regret, but at the same time,
we hold in abhorrence the cold-blooded conduct of
those who are the true causes of the horror., and
who ought to have checked the primitive evils.—
They are not of a recent date ; they can be traced to a
base system of jobbing lands, trading in tythes, orange
domination, which at all times kept the passions open
to "revenge, and a variety of other infamous oppres-
sions that can scarcely be supposed to exist, except by
those who bad the opportunity of witnessing them.—
The present situation of Ireland will be one of the ex-
cuses art forth by Ministers to continue the favourite
measure of a standing army. The calling out of the
Yeomanry was the most impolitic course that could
bare been adopted by any men in their senses. We
do not wish to say what these are now ; they once re-
sembled a set of Guerillas, led on by fanaticism, and
were the active instruments of internal division. Their
loyalty consisted in their hopes of power, profit and
patronage ; and, among the whole, there was not one
actuated by any other motive. Their employment new
is neither congenial nor proper. Lord TALBOT'S suc-
cessor has a glorious opportunity of becoming mere
popular than any of his predecessors. The conduct
of the Noble Lord he succeeds, will be a■ admirable
foil to chew off the wisdom of the Noble Marquess,
whose first act ought to be to disarm these Yeomanry,
and supersede the Orange Magistrates. Let the Nuble
Marquess become a father, not an ungracious step-
father, bat a kind protector, and he will do more to
promote respect to the laws than all the armies, Orange.
Guerillas, or public meltdowns that Ministers eau
possibly provide. The Noble and intelligent Statesman

•We have more. !ban once given it as. oar opinion,
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thatAag Parlialßeast oyirriat. Britninlit tietntltnr many
years, &rambled' together ander cireumnianoes so ge-
nerally interesting, as promise to mark the inswing'
Session. As the period approaches the plot thickens),
We shall have the Greek cause on the tarts tWe '
,
have the dismissal of Sir 11.1.)11111IT . WiLsos fully dis-
cussed ; we ahall have the distress of the Agricultural
folks pressing
~Lard
upon the debates ; and what is
more ominous to the hingera on, expectints and
slaves of the present Administration, ,we shall have
the disagreements and dissensions of the Ministers
themselves held up to public. notice. There are some
of them who peens to feel a little compunction for past
errors; there are others who are getting frightened,
and there is a third set who don't care about pushing
matters to extremities, whose only wish is to place
the oppressed People in the yoke, and then drive them
into submission, obedience and silence. We shall
soon be •let iotp4ll the jealousies and strifes which re-
mained einothprmi so long as the money came in, but
now that there is danger of the taxes not being pet*,
and every bne not obtaining hie promised reward, sonic
will be for retiriug altogether, others will be for
shifting the load on to his neighbour's shoulders, and
shuffling out of the responsibility which will soon be
more than a mere name. It is evident that relief must
he afforded to the nation in sonic shape or other, and
is doing this it must become a question, who is
Ito abate his luxuries—echo is to go without his
pension—who is to suffer a diminution of salary ?
—They will none of them work fur nothing.—
The supporters of the system will drop off one by
one, and then the guidance of the machine of State
will be committed to such as can be obtained to
extricate the present men from their dilernina.—
The loud complaints of the farmers at their meetings
evince the sad condition of the country. Not half the •
people in the metropolis are at all aware of the situa-
tion ofthe farmers. Not half of the people know that
in many parts of the country the farmer, instead of
paying his rent to the landlord, actually has applied
to him for money to help him to pay the taxes. This
certainly is occasioned by the low prices ; but, even
low prices would pay the fanner were he not borne down
by the numerous demands to meet the exigencies of
the state. How happens it that low prices remune-
rate the continental farmers ? how happens it that the
labouring men in many parts are able to-live on wages
which amount only to 4d. a day ? The reason is
obvious. There is not the same system of extrava-
gant expenditure, there are not so many drones, there
is not such an overwhelming national debt call-
ing
for interest—the taxes are net a tithe of what they
are in England, in any other country. It is evident
that the present race of farmers cannot exist while
prices remain the same ks they are now. But it is
equally evident that the prices never can be raised.—
It is evident that all attempts to raise them will be ac-
companied with danger to the peace of the country—
and it is evident that such attempts never can suc-
ceed. The crisis is much nearer at hand than people
imagine. Neither Agricultural Meetings, nor Corn
Bills, nor Gagging Bills, nor Loyal /Issociations, nor
Thagooning, nor partial change of Ministers, nor all
the bugbear about sedition and blasphemy will delay
the period or avert the blow. Nothing but measures
far different toe those hitherto adopted, nothing but
measures quite new, and the most patriotic disinter-
estedness will save the farmer, the manufacturer, or
wen Miniskis themselves.

Extract of a letter from Charlestown, (S. C.) Nov.
28 :—Yon will see by the Havannab papers, that the
whole of Mexico was said to be in possession of the In-
surgents. This account is premature, for La Vera
Cruz bad not surrendered when the last accounts left.
That place is to Mexico what Cadiz is to Old Spain, a
strong bulwark. The6overnor, Colonel D'Avila is a
firm friend to the present Constitution of Spain.
Extract of a letter from Havannab, dated Nov. 14 :
—1 am sorry to inform you of the loss of the Ame-
rican ship Packet, Captain Leavitt, 4hieb, on her pas-
sage from Cadiz to this port, was wrecked, off Cayo
Romano. Tlin whole crew, with the exception of three
seamen and a merchant, who was passenger on board,
perished. The Captain was among the number who
escaped drowning, but he died afterwards of thirst,
on the Key. As yet, we have not been able to find
out the names of the passengers that were on bo 'rd.
PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 24.—Arrived, the schooner
John Brown, from Curacoa. The Captain reports,
that by arrivals from Laguira, the greatest tranquil-
lity reigned in Laguira and Caraccas. Produce was
coming into market in great quantities, and consider:
able shipments were making.

French papers to the 25th have arrived by express.

A letter has been received at Paris from Constantino-
ple, dated the 27th nit. the day on which, according to
the French journals, the assassination of the Sultan is
said to have taken place. From this letter.' it appears,
that this event bad not only not occurred on that day,
but there had not been any popular commotion, or move-
meet of the soldiery, that could place the life f the Sul-
tan in jeopardy. Frequent conferences bad taken place
'on the 27th and preceding days, between the English and
Austrian Ambassadors and the Ministers of the Ports,
at which the Sultan himself was present; and hopes are
expressed that his reluctance to accept the *omen ski-
matron may bare been surmounted. Nothing, however,
bad bee* decided. and the question of peice or war la-
rained in the greatest uncertainty.
The last arrivals from Paris quote timAgur Cans.
Consols as having closed on Wednesday at SO 50 a.
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:lie indolence of nature, and app4eberisions of ee t.r
boldly undertakes and ardently engages is a. oa ;
..teloriimei mid polities:ems.. •it is h its thstietets.44
debt of millions and:of ages; who gives beat to G
the glorious example, which the brightest pages of.her
annls liav4, given , to the unerring eforts of modern
pairrotism. Here, where science first dutiful
6: lathed; and kindred humanity elleetesod noltikt
proved. Here; a Son of Scotia rescues thh fair refits
of the world from the insult of the infidel, aim the trim
of the barbarian; rouses to glorious deeds- the descend.
antsof Leonidas, Themistocles, and llpasniaoadu;
eolls the shade of the mighty brave; sad by the reinem,
hrance of the sacrifice of Thermopylae; tite awakes
glory of Marathon; and the immortal realm of Salamis;
sheds a lustre over the Grecian cause; temmraten the
regenerated standard of freedom ; and Asti*" in re_
mote posterity the animated patriotism a their brass
progenitors.
That the gallant Gordon may enoble by his devoted
example; may chasten by his benevolence. the Ontragn
of civil hostility; may temper the ardour of the soldier
with the humanity of Christian; may gain for him-
self an imperishable name, and for the Greeks a regene-
rated soil, is, I. believe, the prayer of every honest man,
whatever 'nay be his party predilections; whatever the
influence of habit; the contagion of example; or the
force of inveterate preindice.

The report of a seizure of arms in Zante is stated to
have arisen in the following manner.—lt appears that
after the affray which took place between a detach-
meet of English soldiers and the inhabitants of Z.►nte,
in the attempt to plunder a Turkish vessel which bad

heen driven ashore in Cheri Bay, both the naval aid
military force at the island were mach strengthened
by order of Sir Thomas Maitland. He then proceeded
to punish the ringleaders in the affray, and afterwards
to disarm the whole of the islanders, whose custea It
had previously been to wear arms of some descdptieft
as a part of their dress. This procedure cm:missed
some resistance, which was overcome without Molt.

shed, and it was understood to be the intention of Sir T.
Maitland to disarm all other the islands, after having put
the finishing band to the measure in Zante. Areportues
been spread at Corfu, that the Lord High Commis-
sioner would be recalled, and be succeeded by Sir W.
Bentincic. _ _ .

The fortresses on the Danube are full of Asiatic
troops. There have been many executions in Servia,
because commotions have been discovered between
the Servians and the neighbouring Macedonians.
Letters from Sidney, New South Wales, dated the 25th
of July, have been received. Governor Macquarrie had
just returned from a visit of inspection of the lower co-
lony (Van Dieman's Land), and many useful and neces-
sary reforms were expected to result from the personal
view be hail taken of its situation. Among these, none
appeared to be more imperiously called for than the es-
tablishment of a separate court of justice at Hobart's-
town ; the want of which was severely felt moue; a
population every year rapidly increasing by the acqui-
sition of new settlers.
A dinner of the Society for Reform was held oak,
turday, to which Mr. Cobbett was invited. About
sixty persons, principally tartars, were prewat;'!.
Clarke, Esq., of Bergh Apton, in the Chair. Ms.
Cobbett, Mr. Alderman Springfield, and Mr. Edward
Taylor, severally addressed the company. On Thum-
day se'nuiglit twenty-three gentlemen, of yartnoutb,
also entertained Mr. Cobbett, at the Bear Inn.—(Ater-
wich Mercury.)
The Harleston Agricultural Association has met
and passed some strong resolutions, and directed pr.
titions to be prepared. Mr. C. Harvey, of Aldhsul.,
a very able man and of great experience, was the
Chairman.—(/Lid.)
BanvuQuase---The shack of an earthquake was
felt at 50 minutes past two o'clok, p. m. on the 17th
ult. in Moldavia. It lasted several soconde, and was
particularly violent at Jassy. At a quarter past three
o'clock three other strong shocks were experienced i*
that city. They succceeded eaf:h other at short inter-
vals. Several houses and churches were damaged,
and a great number of cbintnies and cellars gave we l.
—(FI emelt Paper.)
Loss or THE JULIAN,. EAST INOIAMAN.—No 414
is entertained at Lloyd's of the loss of the Juliana Fast
Indianan. The two men who were saved from tie
wreck have, it is said, arrived in town, It is under.
stood that the passengers and the wife of the captaio
lead, most providentially for them, been put os shore
before the Juliana was driven off thee coast. There
ate various reports respecting the number of persons
who have perished, but nothing positive is at present
known. It appears she was bound from Bengal to
London, was a teak built ship, burthen between fire
and six hundred tons. This ship was unfortunate.
Last voyage she was driven from Ler moorings at
Margate, into the North Seas, and nothing hot the
most experienced seamanship preserved her from de
struction. treat hopes are entertained that her
reri pa
oP
engers were landed on some part of the root. P"
to the melancholy event.
Yesterday a Court of Directors was held at the F.ast
India House, when the uadermentioned Captains were
sworn to the command of their respective shlps,vit,
Captain John Barnett Sotheby, London, Minitni
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China; Henry Andrew Drummond, Castle lienlkis
Bombay and China.
Qoaxxstitnav Leases.—Tbe seesaw of llNtect6a'n
of the leases on the Queensberry estate. in "'wk."
crees have lately been pronounced, co.ntained.
the conclusions of reductions, conclusions against the
tenants ' .iroh - The question was tried on
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PUBLIC MEETING AT MONMOUTH. rt 'u lettf, AT rfileu. 0* ••• a' - f .ita s. illy . A --..--
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.XIIISI . • c roreespon/lent of the Aberdeen Chronicle
.I. . • • ectation for
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46: .. 1 • itions fro* those l_ • I '. ' "14.
very forcible remarks on the azirlit"p
[room THE BRISTOL MERCURY, DEC. 22.] Ilsiesp
eydmawnOrl world, rb. After the dinner at Monmouth, noticed in our last. on
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tithes, and bettyr and perpetual taxation! follow tip! ,bt ta be_ ta-tha...scounds....of.the cre&-- wsehtictlos our
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Mr. Moggridge's health being drunk, he rose to return ite-iii-ltraf_a;etynrette ..,toaritamensurTenepvint• -t.re'e?
md,bx.wlic
in the cause of the Greeks:— • set
thanks, as be said, for the continued and ardent marks
be bv reclaim! ttaxitlhon ;..bk!acktlipriiiiiihe Iwili Ai I
dent loireinti. . 4 ft f. "13
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its for violent profits. The questiou
sy at Edinburgh, before Lord Cringletie, Whether
enants were Hale to the Duke in such kieleol
ts, or by-gone rento
and if so, lieu what Period
lame behoved to br calculated ? Tito case 10
ably argned by Mr. Jeffrey, for the Miceof
tlengh ; and by Mr. Muncrieti, on the part of tLe
uta. His Lordship gave it as his decided orido.
the tenants on the Queenherry rotate were not
e in violent profit* er datnageo, prit r to July 161'
g the date of the decision of the 1104. s of lic't
iris* of which these leases had ire. ltdice"
he held thew liable subsequent to that decision.
Berwick smack, arrived in the,lther ye•teraq'
arts having seen the wracks of Move vessels teadies
stostb Sands.
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