The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-06-16 00:00:00

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*nub! certainly never idinit that any thing *bleb
epeke of cruelty or flogging, Multi be meant fur him.
Tody might 14 *ell say that to %Minister was walk-
ug
through the streets, and had mud theowe at
i ui that it waif the King himself who was pelted.
tcrtainly did nut invent or cletise those facts upon
which I commented ; and it, upon those facts, my
tuinnient was somewhat unary and hasty, it cannot
inferred from thence that it was my intentiun
to °teflon% the Goreseement, or do any injury' to
My country. The learned Judge Blackstone (from
whom every lawyer in the Court, and even the
',earned Judge, halt:imbibed their first lessons of
late),.in speaking of the fora, of trial, states, that
the trial by information, tit fifth, was only to bile
used in cases of such esowmity, that the least de-
lay would endanger his Majesty's Government ; or
*here his Majesty was molested or affronted in the
esereise of his royal functions. In all other cases, the
subject is entitled to the double shield Of a Grand
Jury, as well as a Petty Jury. Did this paper
endanger his Majestyi.s Government ? Was this
a case *hick would not bear a mumcht's delay ?
of if it were sus *V wee it delayed fur a whole
twelvemonth ? If, instead of telling mu a persen
disaffected to his :Majesty, they had said that I
ilitliked Lord Castlereagh, and that I had Intend.
ell and devised to bring Lord Castlereagh intodis.
like; T would not have known what defence to
have nettle to Such a charge # and I believe that
sittst have admitted it to be true. It Was but a
Short time ego that this Lord Castlereagh cum.
plained in the house df the difficulty of bridging
tabu lrrs,td puhishmened
Lord ELLeriannoUbli.—ig I must letertapi'
you. .Youmusenot make your defenee a meats:
of tradnatioti. Ike Wilco''r crime thee 6eeti
charged with, of publishing the paptoßthieh. hat.
been teed., einatat he deftiadiel by clitirghese °thew
snen with doctrines delitered in Patillaroenf.t'..:__
.•
Mr. Cosewr-`t—" I *shall returnj then,- tit that
toreee eutistruction which I say the Atteraey.oe.-•
tieral has put upon my words. In that' paper
.I
was ridiculing the meastire of the Local -Militia,'
I.—trodueed by Lord Castlereagh. When I set
dowe, 1.4 Aye, the rascals, flog theM,":. an
maii could suppose that I was speaking se.
ritnisly, The Attorney-General says, that I
meant to say, that Bonaparte behaved with
less dreelty to his conscripts than der Go.
eernineut behaves to the Local Militia. Now my
meaning, in referring to Bonaparte on this ooca.
sion, was merely to sting them. With this obserea.
lions that it Would not be prudent for them to bb
always inveighing against the cruelty of Bons.:
parte, unless they Would themselves leave of seek
practices as these. As to making some observe.
tons upon the treatment of soldiers, I trill tio*
ask, arcs we never to be allowed, open any octal.
lion, to say that soldiers hate be•.en cruelly
treated ? If one of us was in a garrison town,
and saw a soldier flogged to death, (which I hope
will never occur since the case of Governor Wall)
would it be criminal to say any thing, or to
write any thing upon the subject ? What! is every
matt oho pats on a red coat, to be from that mo.
meet deserted by all the world ;_end is no tongue,
or nu pen, ever to stir in his defence ? Who were
these local militiamen ?The greater part were then
young Mews, probably in smock frucks, just
taken from the plough, and ignorant of that sub-
s:stabilities,' that is practised in the artily. I allow
that against a serious mutiny severe measures may
be necessary l but then by mutiny, I understand i
taking up arms, and forcibly and violently resists
log the officers in the execution Of their Military
duties. I do nut think a mere discontent and
squabble in a Corps about the marching guinea,
should either receive the name or punishment of
mutiny. I, and other people) told Lord C 5 from
the beginning, that it would cotneto this ; that these
local militiamen would be made just soldiers
enough to be disinclined to return to labour;
that they *mild be so much of labourers as
Dever to be made effective soldiers. But it is not
always conceived crimitsal to speak of our soldiers
hating received cruel treatment* 1.. shall no*
'read to you many extracts of speeches delivered in
l'aqiament, respecting the treatment of the Bd.
li Army in Welchem'. The sentiments which
ell now read to eon are much stronger than
!ling contained io the paper for 'thigh I am
e fed. 1~ shalt Am read the words of Lord

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ELLEN SIOROVOItv-rit" Mr Cobbeitt) t must
this ; (cannot alittie speeches statbd to have
okcn in Parliarneet on other 'netters) to
to thu Jury% If -you have any extracts
her sources wh(ckyoe think applicable to
...tie) you may read them"
r. t..;neeestitio!• Weil, theta, it Will sufficeupso say shortlyb that there is en,' degree of
-reectyb haniship) mei upprinsion which has not
been.eharscil to tante who conducted the Welehe.
ten sipedifion% When people speak against the
ill.treatincitt of our soldiers) the fair and natural
presnmptioe is, nut that• they went to overturn
the Gores:outwit) hut .that they want those evils
of whieh they complain, td be remedied ht future.
When Mr. Whitbread said a few days ago) that
as much cruelty now prevails in the I:luka of
Cumberland"slegiment es there ever did) tend that
It was in that regiment only that the practice of
picketing was continued) did any body believe
that Mr. Whitbread really meant ton excite a ntuti.
ley ? INo—overy body most be.eenvisiced that the
thing was mentioned 'only that the bull Might be
eorreeted." •

The Attorney.aenetal complained to hie Lord.
ship oT the improprioty of thus quoting speeches
Igarliatnent.
)ftlgs.a.annonousit again informed Mr► Cobb
, till( it, was improper 11) quote speeches made
►e losperiat Chambers of Parliament. They
Id pat be brought into emaiderntion upon the
%n) oteision.

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r. COSIETT C0f10111,14••!14 lit *poetised to me'
the reasonable con4usien shift is formed in
_ elites,. and whith ought alto to be formed in
11111litt) r-.that a pcfsett gelierally tomplaies) not
is of doing as luprry to his town:
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T. .eoseplsint, het with it view et
~. . . Sitctre4 of which he elisteittiekei&
eicrairetelisittaken in the 'object et filkith
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