The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-02-19 00:00:00

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es related to limpriseirescat curd tnaportatten. After
the firkins! atetlee sad stateedment were reed from
*the Chair
Mr. WILBERFORCE heard with surprise cad
concern the speech. el his Noble Friend. In the Int
pert of his speech' the Noble Lord seemed 'drape to
ell enquiry, sod in the conclusion I. seemed to pre-
fa a differeat mode. He had hoped that the Neale
Lord would have taken a different coarse. Tholes
pert of the Committee ef 1812, was a geed rases
for the appointment of a Committee at present, is sell
lwhy the proposed reforms had not bees earrieellilli
unettes. The Criminal Code was a nominal, eM •
Irani, system, as the laws were set pet le asecatiaa.
A knowledge of facts relative to New South Wales
I might enable the Howse to see what afros* might be
made I. the Criminal Cede. Urea the plan of the
Noble Lord the 'equity could never comet, a coo.
elation. If it was istended to prevent enquiry, a
more effectual sada meld net peuibly be adopted.
Maay of the facts stilted by the Hee. Geotleasse
called loudly for reform, end bad been unknown to
the Committee of 1812.—(hear, heir!)—Should
the colony not be reformed, it would be a eat of vi-
pers in that part of the world.
Lord CASTLERF.AGU and Mr. WILBER-
FORCE meteally esplained.
M r. GO U LBU RN replied, at areederable
to what bed fallen from Mr, Basalt sod Mr. Wit-
ireeface. He should himself vete for the petunia
quatisse, bat from no wish to stile ongeiry.
aromea were sellout, to sad est Clergymen to
New Booth Wale., bet few were willing to Ina
their native reentry. With raped to the Catholic
Clergyeses who had beets sat hem., theism was,
that he had made applicatise to Lord Bathers' to be
met eat, bet epee enquiry bang made is his eerie-
siulieal superiors, they bed reported that he was a
mss soft to have the cure of souls. With respect
lia the swell member of females that attaded the
Merck at Sydney, it thread be recollected that from
11118 to 1118, the somber of males treasportad had
beep 8113 b, and of feessles only 291.—[Ilear
!]—
Lad that fact perfectly esplaieed the eiramotance
alluded le.
Sir B. MARTIN reed reveal deeemeets Wadi%
to plea He geed treatment of the mallets.
J. MACINTOSH wished so make a few ob.
Iseeelisme est the arauerears whisk had bees breepht
forward. no Nettle Lord proposed, that this mai.
eheeM be levestipted by a Committee who wove
at the same time to sake tete eiresiderstine the la.
mese subject of the Penal Cede of Espied. This
was a task which ,seeded the mental and phy.
slat powers of airy Committee. The two Hos.
Members eke spoke last, did wet speak to the vow.
tins before the Roam 'lb. Seereary fa the Co-
loeisi Headman had sines a met elaborate see.
fated.° of *be arsenate of the Hebb Lord, who
was efopiebse that asentairy was requisite...bile the
Hon. Secretary, esserdieg to hie statement, thought
otherwise. The ember which the Noble Lord wished
to give to see Cmemittee, was sulltlieet ler the is.
rises coesideratiem of teeny, is Order to be the.
reeehle encased. There were sk =re else.
leg the yeeteeil4•l"the sok
areeleeed that deg the restattefllllll
Commielee, dam almost imuestibilitia were to be tee
(lobed fear it. Old set lb* Noble Lordaferd came 01/1/
tech *plaits, 1 Ho had Isola Genteel Miaow
tie for .say pm, sod be always revealed Meow
With teepees to the west el a Reams 0111111011
Cetwasse Y Itlew tieeth Wale., be said MAO
=the seeded permed awards usfiseliiiblie
b he that Camay, who foe 20 yews had
bees jai el ed the built of a eisegymee of thole
velhglets. May of them were afortenete htisb
deals who had boom seat frees lensed, not bane
they had is gellty et any felony, het bison,
shay had bees peilikelly (atty. lie amid wet
oblarvilli. dee *seas the hest times a ear WOW
Matey, sad swam the primitive simplicity of
ism ofGoesersest, eased by tier overieettoes Mtge
fathers, is every pert of the plebe wherever Ber
eelieeta had boa pirated, set oseepties
the apeamat of the petty Islands le the West la-
dies, bet then sesespiteemi saijems of Great Bri-
tain renewed from the petal cometry ea adequate
shire of these messalistiareal blesslega which aura-
terised the happy soil lam whose@ they had Mi..
pitted—

siests
revue% etesuess=trie nee=
Arweare. ---------
It hod beta the perverse pelicyof later times to deprive
these *clone Of the national mock of all congesiality
and reciprocity of feeling with this covets', by
shettiog oat horn them all hope of twee bees admitted
to a rrticipetioe is these privileges, sod le that
Cons Minion a hieh had long placed this ceentry so
proudly pre-eminent oboes ell other seams of the
glebe. ,
Mr. CANNING said, he was eat lisped file
this view of the subject. He was so Gooey to=
log to eye colonies the prieciples of the
1 C0'15018111,0, sad his Honourably Friend *poodle
bad once hese elf the same opinion : dog had fought
side by Wein support of it. There was • wide dif.
terrace between as acquired colony sad a receptacle
~ter ccovicts. Were convicts to be considered as a
species of the British Constitution, or did the He.
Pourable Gentlewso wish to establish a political
hierarchy in this colony, consisting of Kilts, Lords,
tied Composts ? If the Honeershir Gisetleman's
motion sea alma es an accusatiosi ordeal the
Goterensent, it ueght to be rejected ; if it was a
esetion fee enquiry, it ought to be supported. But
it was eeerssary that the state of the cooviet ships
shoeld be considered as a convecting huh been,
the teheish.ht of convicts and the state of New Spoilt
Wake. With respect to enqeiry-inta the mese( do
Ceintioal Cody, be said mere de‘leinsti,in could lea
est elfeet bet to incite prejudice and otbjetigatext.
By thsewing the expectation forwestt that the pe,
',Merin of death would by done sway with, thei
HMSO would nebulae the peeve of society. By what
hid dalien frees his Hon. Friend, It weld appear as
II they were daily sanctiooing execistiews, of which
they, by set ideciatiag the People, were gouty.--Hi
! wished eel to troll the eshject as en abatrast pro-
• position. It was the object of his Noble Friend's
practised Mottos oat to treat this subject separately,
Iselin emeiro into it lig connected with the mete of
colloids generally. Hs had no doubt every Informs.
den would hi obtained by his Noble Friend's Mo.

tion which sight facilitate tilt possibility of redeclog
the number-of akpitsi pattishosents.
'Sir JAMBS MAGiNTOSH eadMr.CANNING
seloally eapleimed.
TIRRNRY said. be-wes sessetisnes accused
ifs dispisition to jest, het seise bulbs Right Hen.
Goodness amid jest no gosh • sobject as the pris-
tine. His Ron. Friend's esdlioe wu for an esiestiry
lent the state of the Colony of New Seth Wain,
sod of the confines there. The Arable Lord pee
medico, that he would es Thursday sots to empire
kits both these, and also lots the state of the prises'.
js nessequeoce of which, they were called epos to
rid id the notion of his Hoe. Frieod, sad wait
that of the Nellie Lord. If, however, the Noble
was melees, his best mode would be, to ail
Me motion for trequiriag late the state of the jaw
Ow malice .f his Hootterablo Friead. As to
Mete of the esseicts ea board the ships, It •
OD Owe to de with the enquiry with tepid
be the state of Now South , Waist, thee the
elite of the packets which took Minister to Ale.
la.Chapelle, wosid hose to do sills a notion
for an esqoity into the Centeation which took pima
there. The House sight as well think of 'Meg to
Betaay Bay, as think of genies to a legalisation of
the . Committee—[d kisigh.)—Bat seek was the
now perseed, that only swedes a jail, sod
dorm same ton whole Criesioal Law is a body.--•
Ether, Atser).—Mbon Ms 11... 'mod said that Ge.
estrosseat was respousible fee the growth of crime, Mr
mean to my obit Goverment wu respeesibie„ su
fir as they had sot paid selleieet atteatiint to the
mlosettee it the lower simers.—[ Heir, I* I Olt;
we If the west of 'decades was eat ton are if
Ns growth ei aims, be welted ask whet was Oi.
mese/ As smoky isle as elate of osseiets wit
impetseeed person, was quite a dietiset Aloe Ina
thenesierratin of Me Criminal law. Nrillito dme
ewe simple than the alio* de debate M 41111111 g
It use as segtiiry late thief:We wt esitella OS
pelage isle Neue ieseb Wales, sod dories 11100 sF
@Mosel* that sodomy, awl this. segjecia had de 1
right to be Waived a the ensideredee at the Cri.
sisal Cede.—[Neer__ 11
Mr. ill. BATHUILST enteeded at use *soh,
for neSeieg the resew eogetry to the Committee
es the Grimiest Cede.
Mr. BURTON rose melds. teed mks of spestioe.
He gave it as ids egoism, that If the present enquiry
were to be sedertakoo by the Committee, oho had
other bides blOoded with it, that Committee
wield arm be able to sake a reeseeshle Report.—
[Hear, heirr]—Ties way to prettied properly is the
esqeiry was, to raise a large and wide base, sod
Meet the work pyreatidicaily to a twilit. Bet it ap-
peared to him, (het the Nettle Lord opposite bed re.
mined this letestios, for be had made his Moe •
OW, earl his top, a 'Ws iodide's pisee.—[Hosr!]
Mro MARRYAT stated, that he was enabled to
swum the Hesse, that the otortslity on baud cos•
lion ships tat sessiderabiy smoker thee smoggy ies-
pebosed pintoes soy 'where else.—[Question, fret.
Most]
Mo. WYNN mid stew words is sopped 4.11111
Agee I soolios.
Mr. BENNETT rioted. it Nut
Ilegoesents of the difereet Gentlemen she primed
him. is alluding to what he tolled' swan hits
Right Hoe. Guthman (Mr. Csealeg), he wield
pereitied to isy, that be Aid wet twit dot belies
bees gifted with Wools to abase it toes the vellaN.
lip et his fellow.ei estates lato jest to sash to the
jllllllleentest of that Hews, sod the Agee of the
~.eery. Ho felt for the milertegs el hie Igloo.
emoting ; he had a bias, e puttee fee rydressieg
time, sad this eireeentaisie might bele glen a
warmth to his deserimin of their sillieelow, which,
psalm" as a Jarmo, he might eat be javtilled is
etron. .11:1•711:; ses
hw ionpkmeMi of slid Right he
. happy, Weed,. is relive them, bet he meek!
hams tepee grits as In glassed with literality ; sad
If it were possible, that that Lett HON. Forams
Avoid hen hated his (Me. Itenett) as much a• he '
hated his Right Hee. Fries* ow his right sod his
left head, thee there might have bees a hope that he
(Mr. Beenett) meal she Right Hee. Crestless. might
come tertber. . .
Mr. CANNING mid, he had merely Katy! that
he would sot act epos the statement of the Hon.
Goodman, anti and he wield ray so still.
Mr. asmtrgrr .carved, that be would enter•
telt, whatever opinion he (Wight It, and glee es.
pension to that spieler as coosiotratly as he could
with Parlismentery decorent.—[ Hear, hear)
The Gallery was thee, steered for a &Thin, whew
the astabers "refe—
ree' the oretioe le I A it 1131 itninelti 1:0
The other Orders of the pq were then disposed
if, tied the Hemore*eammeW Miaow Twelve.
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