The Statesman.
London, England, 1813-06-12 00:00:00

LOCAL TOKEN ACT.

The CII A Niii.Kl:oß of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day, for taking into consi-
deration the Bill for continuing and amending the
Local Token Act. One of the new provisions of
the ril was, to compel the persons issuing the
Tokens to pay in Bank of England notes. Another
amendment was, to prohibit the issuing of notes
under 4205.

Mr. WHITBREAD did not wish to add to the
mortification of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, on
this occasion, by reminding him of .former discus.
sions ; but lie should like to know if he still per-
sisted in thinking the Paper Currency of equal value
with the Metallic. He thought the provisions of the
,present Bill should be very narrowly watched.
• Mr. HUSKISSON said, there was an Act, brought
in by him in 1809, to prohibit the issue of notes un-
der 20s..value. The issuers of the Local Tokens
were always compellable to pay in Bank of England
notes. He was not himself disappointed in this Bill.
Ile always believed it would be necessary to con-
tinue it ; and he feared that instead of calling in our
Paper Currency it would be necessary to raise the
nominal value of our Silver Coin. The Irish Silver
.Tokens had been raised in nominal value.—[llear,
hear! from Mr. Ponsonby.]
Sir John Newport and Mr. Ponsonby. both con-
firmed the statement of Mr. Iluskisson, with respect
to Ireland.
The Bill was brought In.
Mr. 'WHITBREAD wished the Treaty with Rus-
sia to be laid before the House.
Lord CASTLEREAGH observed,.that such parts
of it as related to the Treaty with Sweden, and as it
would be proper to make public, would be detailed
in Iris speech in the debate on the subject.
Mr. WHITBREAD professed great faith int the
integrity of the Noble Lord, but he should feel still.
greater in the letter of the Treaty.
Mr. PONSONBY conceived that at least those
parts of the Treaty which his Lordship intended to
communicate in his speech, and which would be made
public within It hours afterwards, might be previ-
ously printed for the convenience of the House. -
No answer from Lord Castlereagh.
Mr: PON:4ONBY then said, he would *tin Non.
day make a motion for the ()induction of the Treaty.
Lord CASTLEREAGH explained.
Mr. BRAND gave notice of a motion-oh Parlia-
mentary Reform for Thursday. .
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, the House resolved itself into a
Committee of Ways and Means.
• The CIIA NC E LLOR of the EXCIIEQU ER said,
he should not detain thellouse long. Theie was a
deficiency in the amount of the last year's.taxes of
4,682;7971. and.he should on Wednesday move for a
grant .of nine millions to' defray the arrears, and
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to the amount of two millions, and that the other
war taxes had increased. The particular articles in
which there was a deficiency last year, he ha 4 left
out of his estimate this year, and had taken ob. an
average .of three years—the Customs for the yeseli
1809, 10, and 11, and the others for the three last
years. In this way the estimated receipts of the
Customs for the present year would amount to
5,607,0001. ; lErcise, 18,835,0001. ; Assessed Taxes,
6,200,0001; Stamps, 5,176,0001. ; Post • Office,
1400;0001.; making a total of 38 millions, of which
there would remain disposable for this year,
11,450,0001. were it not that there was also a charge
from the former year, which Would reduce it to
500,0001. The War Taxes, including sugar, amount-
led to 10,3001.; the Property Tax for the last year
amounted to 9 000,0001.; and for the present year
Ito 12,sidopeet:r • ttattlite togtther .2%110,0001.
which, after a deduction, left a balance of 21.,0 10,0001.
I to which amount he should propose a vote iu the
i Committee: It remained for him then to state the
conditions on which be had contracted the Loan of
Wednesday Ittst—(as given in our Paper of Thurs-
day).—lt was*a bargain with which not only the
Public, twit the Contractors, had cause to be satis-
fied, being fair as to both. The charge to be pro-
vided for by the public, no doubt, would be very
cotrsiderable, but it was nevertheless such as could
not be avoided. He should not enter into the ques-
tion, so far as the Sinking Fund was affected, at
present, seeing that so many other opportunities of
doing so would present themselves. He should be
I happy to give the Committee any information in his
power which they should be desirous of obtaining ;
and should conclude at present by moving his first
Resolution.

The first Resolution, that the sum of 27 millions,
he had raised by way of Annuities for the service of
Great Britain and Ireland, for the present year, was
then put and agreed to, as were the other Resole-
itions on the same subject.
IRISH BUDGET.
Mr. WILLIAM FITZGERALD then brought
forward the Budget for Ireland. The total supply
required was 16,571,0001. and the Ways and Means
for raising this Supply amounted to 16,611,0001.—
He felt himself placed in a situation, in which no
one had ever stood before him. The charge arising
from fresh taxes to be borne by Ireland within the
present year was 595,0001. Ireland, which had so
often been charged with not contributing her fair
share to the exigencies of the State, contributed this
year, of new taxes, nearly 600,0001. He had en-
deavoured to make these fall as lightly as possible on
the public, particularly- on . the lower orders; and
be was happy to think that they had given general
satisfaction, most of the Bills by which they were
hnposed basil* already passed into laws. These
Taxes were principally on Customs and Excise, on
Coffee, Wines, Malt, Spirits, Assessed Taxes, &c.
lie was aware that even those taxes would be sensi-
bly, but, he hoped, not severely felt. But, with a
view to assimilate the practice in the two countries,
he proposed to provide a Sinking Fund for the Debt
of Ireland, which might also enable that country,
on an exigency, to increase its funded debt. He
then proceeded to give a general statement of the
finances and prosperity of Ireland, as compared with
former years, shewing that its situation was greatly
improved. He then stated a few facts to prove that
the exports of. Ireland b3d increased since the Union,
which showed the etilitx of that measure, much as it
had been decried by many. The export of corn of
'all kinds. from Ireland hintincreased since that mea-
sure, which was a proof or the improvement of agri-
culture ha Ireland. The exchanges -also between
Great Britain and Ireland had of-late been pearl);
diminished. This year it was about six per een.. •
and-only a few years ago it was as high as 17 and tt;
percent. Was this not a proof of the increasing
•prosperity of the sister kingdom Some improve-
ments had been made within the last three years in
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Sir HENRY PARNELL observed, that thre was
a radical error it► the system of appointment to
offices in Ireland, the officers for the collection of
the revenue being nominated by the Lord Lieutenant
instead of being selected by the Treasury Board,
under whom these officers were more immediately to
net, which was the practice in this country. But i
this was not the only difference between the system
of the two countries, the officers in ail the depart-
►uents under Government being appointed by the
Lord Lieutenant, instead of being selected by the
Boards under which they were respectively to act ;
and who were, of course, most,competent to make a'
proper. choice. No view td patronage should, he
thought, permit the continuance of such a deviation
from the better practice of England.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT, in answer to the chal-
lenge of the Irish Secretary (Peete), mentioned the,
rase of Beauchamp Hill, which case was on the Jour.
nals of the House. This Mr. 11111 was, it appeared,
appointed to a higher office la the revenue, after he
had himself confessed that be bad been in the habit
of receiving bribes from those from whom it was his
duty to collect the revenue ; nay, he was appointed
to the office of Inspector to check illicit distillation,
after having confessedly received beam fross 'dill'

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Telma;• and the expense of Its collection was diml-itillers to stippress
wished a good deal since 1811, though no penurious I the appointment
means had been resorted to for that purpose. lie ' law.
teen stated a few reasons for not haling adopted in I Mr. W. Ft
liehind the plans of finance that have been proposed of the present .
in this country. Ile was anxious to have the finan-ithe appointment
isal departments of both countries united, and also , Baronet; nor
for an assimilation of the revenues of both. But he I merit would !
should be averse to such consolidation, were the I with the Gel
VOW I ibutions required from both to be made proper- i due to the Right
tinnate. This consolidation besides, would not be ter) who made
se t;roductive as some Gentlemen expected. The; Right Honor
estimate for Ireland this year was 16,571,6361. It the appoint
was iii p ssikle that Are could contribute so much for I namely, that
wavy years to come, were the supplies to be, raised; confessed by
e idea the year. The additional duties for England' sal, among revere
this year amounted to 1,500,0001. and that for Ire- I elude all the
land was about one half this sum, which was very I not be able
disproportionate; so much so, indeed, that she was siness.---P laugh,
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not able to bear it.. It was from n conviction that. Gentleman assured
Ireland was not able to bear it, that he declined the I not offering this •
new plan of finance; and also from a hope that it Further, the
would nurture her future financial resources. The Foster) stet(
revenues in Ireland had been more productive last fees arose me
year than the estimates, whilst the expellee of their to revenue oft
collection had been stationary. Ile concluded by Upon this poil
moving, that certain sums be granted for various uses was proposed
—upon wi.ich, Revenue Act,
• Mr. BA I(l.:e'i said, that he disapproved of some upon any or
of the reanaiks, as well as of 'the system adopted by , lulled to was
the Right lion. Gentleman.. It was nothing but the ; animadversice
system, of his predecessors. The system of taxes I Gentleman
adopted in Ireland since the Union he disapproved r[ Gentiemati,
of, and wished the English system of taxes and (Ireland .iti 1
finance to be extended to Ireland. • Ile also thought.' unseasonable at a ~
that the printed accounts of the amount of thelabout to contribute no sixteen .
*lrish taxes for the last three years were very unsatis- ! the common stock of the year, and to pay in addi-
factory. • 'llona' taxes 610,0001. which amounted to one-halej
Mr. W. POLE' contended, that 'the taxes were , of the addition to which rich and happy &goad
more productive last year than the estimates, and ! was subjected. When it was recollected; that ittiY
viudicated the statements of the Irish revenue. 'lei Pitt, in• 1785, rated the utmost etfort of Englend at'
disapproved of his Honourable Friend's (Bankes) , only 90010001. additional taxation, and when it was
remarks, And said, that as Ireland was a new coun. • corisidere4 that the revenue of Ireland, within the
try, she could not be expected to go on as. England , last yilre hid been increased one-sixth, notwith-
WAS able to do.—lreland could not raise the taxes; standing its sacrifice of one source of revenue t the
Within the year. If they endeavoured to make her necessity of England, in stopping distillation rom
do so, they would make her burst like the ox in the grain, he thought the resources of Ireland, an the
fable, and render her wholly useless. He wis!wed to • manner in which its revenue was collected, we, AOC
see the treasuries and debts of both countries cousoli- , liable to the animadversions which . the Hou ,lead'.
dated. . ; heard from the non. Gentleman and others. . • •
Sir J. NEWPORT agreed with most of the re- ; Mr. CROK ER spoke in favour of the c ter
marks of the last Speaker, and disapproved of those ' and appointment of Beauchamp 11111. i
of the Hon. Geut. (Mr. Banker). He disapproved ; The several Resolutions being agreed to, the Rouse
of the intreduction of the Property Tax into Ire. resumed, and on the motion, that the Report of the
land. Ile thought that the Irish Exchequer Depart- Committee should he brought up to-morrow,
meat might to be wholly separated from the politics I Mr. PONSON BY expressed his surprise at such
of the Castle, and that this was the only plan to ansextraordinary motion. First, because the gene.
make it fully productive. The quantum of contri- Frailty of the Members could have no notion that
bution settled for Ireland at the Union was dispro. such a Report would be brought up so very soon
portionate to her means, and founded on very fella- after the Resolutions were adopted ; and next, be..
cious data. The quantum of contribution was of a cause it was proposed to bring it up on a day when
progressive nature, whilst they kept the productive ,it was. quite unusual for the (louse to sit. Such a
powers of the country, by means of trade and other proceeding was, be believed, without precedent, and
facilities, wholly stationary. The collection of the when the amount of the Loan was considered, sae
resources was, in many instances, badly managed.: settling by far any sum ever before raised -in Eng-
Many had incurred penalties for neglect of the I land, at an interest, as he calculated, of about 5-16
manor duties in Irelands but they had not been pro- per cent. when it was considered that the sums bore
secuted ; among these was one of the Judges of the • rowed oithin•the year, in various ways, amounted
13(1.1,U/ear, hear !)—When it was required' of , to 50 millions, and that the whole of our general ex.
one of the Stamp Commissioners to attend to his • pence would reach to from 115 to MO millions, he
duty,, he resigned his office, because he could not re- appealed to the Right Hon. Gentleman whether it
twin it as a sinecure. The taxes ought to be levied ! would be fit or decent to proceed with the preci-
fairly in Ireland, and those who were able would pita.ncy proposed upon such an important subject.
readily pay the*. , . . I The CHANCELLOR of' the EXCHEQUER
Mr. W. POLE_ confessed that there were great -thought that sufficient opportunity would offer for
abuses in the Siamp.office, but that be had laboured ' any discussion which the Right Honourable Gentle-
bard to remedy them by the Acts of last Session.' man might think proper to bring forward upon this
Time Right lion. Gent. vindicated the appointments , subject. lie would not, however, press the reading
made by the Irish Goverument while he had the ho. of the whole of the Resolutions to-morrow ; but he
sour to be connected with it, and especially in the' hoped the Right Honourable Gentleman would have
Ste mp- oflice, asserting that that Government, being no objection to the reading of the Resolutions respect-I
ever anxious to enforce the collection of the revenue, ; ing the Loan to-morrow (if he did not disapprove of
was not influenced in its selection of proper officers ; the . contract), allowing the, other Resolutions to
for that purpose, by any considerations of party or ; stand over until Monday.
political connection. I Mr. PONSONBY would not object to the read-
Sir J. NEWPORT repeated his assertion, that the I ing of the Resolutions mentioned by the Right lion.
Legacy Tax was not collected, and that penalties I Gentleman, if such a proceeding were necessary to
incurred by Judges of the Land and the Counsel to ; the public service. He would not, as he had before
the Comrnissiouers of the Revenue, who ought to I said, oppose the grant of any Supplies which Minis-
be cognizant of the law, were not enforced, adding, `tens might think proper to require; but there was a
that those penalties were incurred ht the years 1809, • difference between obstructing Supplies and calling
10, and I I. I the attention of the House to the amount of these
Mr. PEELE defied the Right non. Bart, to pro- I Supplies, the manner in which they were raised,and
duce one instance in which any defaulter whatever in 1 the purposes to which they were applied. Ample
the Revenue had been screened from punishment by opportunity for the consideration of such an exten.
the Irish Government upon the delinquency of such I sive subject he thought peculiarly necessary: Ifwas,
defaulter being brought under its consideration. ! Indeed, .highly desirable to examine and explain the
With regard to the department of Stamps, that financial state of the country, of which he believed
question was, he understood, to be brought forward the generality of the public were completely ignorant.
by the Right lion. Bart. as a separate motion, and 1 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
as to the other departments of the revenue, while I observed, that the usual period for discussing the
adequate measuresovere adopted rigorously toenforce I financial state of the country was upon the consi-
the regulations mentioned by the Right lion. Gent. 1 deration of the Resolutions generally proposed'
(W;Pole), with a view to the collection of the wee-! towards the close of the Sessions. The Right Hat- '
nue in future, directions had been very recently I Gentleman would, however, have many other op.,
given by the; Kish Government to seleet the Sett ; portunifies for inch discusslonl:ll he-thought ptcppr
ci.aspicuous among the defaulters heretofore, beer- I to 'avail himself of them, in the progress of the Bilk
der that the most exemplary punishment should be; to be founded on the Resolutions agreed to by the
ingicted. I CoMmittee • but he trusted to the candour of the

Right Hon. Gentleman that he would. not obstruct
the ratification of the Resolutions respecting a loan,
the terms of which were not at all objected :o when
first stated, and any obstruction to which might be
productive of much public inconvenience.
After some further observations from Mr. Pon-
senby,. ltlr. Vansittart, and the Speaker, it was
arranged that the Resolutions respecting the Loan
should be read to-morrow, and that the consi-
deration of the other. Resolutions shoeld be post-
poned. .
• FAST INDIA RESOLUTIONS.
Lord CASTLEREAGH meved that the East In-
dia Resolutions be taken into farther cog:widen-
•
tion.
Sir J. NEWPORT thought, that at this late pe-
rind of the Session, considering the magnitude of the
question, and that it affected the happiness of 00
millions of people, it ought to be postponed for
three months. The contest on this question as, yet
! bad been merely between the outports .and the Rut
India Company ; 'the one contending fore free trade,
the other for a strict monopoly. The Ministers'act-
I ed the part of mediator', and had formed a motley
coat of resolutions that pleased neither party. Dose
•who were.te emote the poweri of the itallopolyi
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part of the Company, why did he not attend its his
place, and call for witnesses o!1 this subject, inatead
of arraigning a speech of an' lion. Friend of his (Mr.
Grant, jun.) in fss our of the xyitem of the Com-
pany? The Hots. Gessilemant instead of ,this, had
thought proper to go bark to period antecedent to
1793, when it wasrudmitted oft all sides that peat
stint flagrant abuses existed ; and to pass over the,
intermerliwe period o'flwenty years' experience of re
different system.—Winwl. were all the tongues of
India since silent ?—Cssuld none of these find such
able advocates in that House as the Honourable Gen.
'demos, if these abuses contused to exise? He .saw
massy objections, besides the transfer of patronage,
to the depriving the Company of the Goverpntent of
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question into a proper shape between the contending i
interests i and he certainly meant to press the House 1
to come to a decision on the question; during the
present Session. -
Mr.W HITBREAD insisted that the most important
part of this mighty subject had been overlooked or ;
neglected, and while. the commercial quarrel wasl
fomented between the Company and the out-ports,
the interest of 50 millions of people in the East were .
considered as unworthy the attention of the Legisla.
Lure; he took shame to himself for his comparative;
ignorance upon India subjects,• but more shame be.
longed to ibe House that it always treated them with
unmerited indifference. He complained. that the
Company had not produced the satisfactory evidence
they so, loudly boasted, and that the question had
been already so much delayed, that a due considera-
tion daring the present Session was impossible. He
then entered into the history of the various discus-
sions upon this subject, to show that Government
had been culpably dilatory in bringing it forward,
and remarked in severe terms upon the inconsistency
of Lord Castlereagh, who, before so vehement an
advocate in favour of extending the influence of the
Crown 9 was now so squeamish as to stickle for
points of little importance connected with it. The
truth was, that the Ministerial tools into which the
Company would be converted would soon rot, and
4be controul of India, its patronage, and its wealth,
would quietly fall into the hands of Ministers.—
The only mode of deciding was to allow of no dis-
graceful compromise, the question ought to be—
Company, or no Company I—Monopoly, or no Mo-
nopoly ! If it ought to be destroyed, destroy it
If it it ought to be maintained, maintain it ! For his
part, if a wish would' destroy out territorial pos.l
sessions in India, he would-wish them annihilated, or 1
at least wrested from Great Britain, The Honour&
able Member disputed the justice of the eulogium
passed upon the Company by Mr. Grant, junior,
on a former night, and detailed to the House the ;
various acts and proceedings from 1773 to 1795, to.:
show that it had always been deemed incompetent to i
the conduct of the Government of India, and after :
all these steps to show that the Company was worth I
nothing,' they were now to be allowed a precarious
existence to continue that Government, when thirty I
years ago they had been cashiered of all power, and I
declared inefficient. He quoted Lord Castlereagh'S i
opinions when President of the Board of Controul,
showing that he had fifteen years since declared that
the Company ought not and could not exist longef, i
and yet now insisted that it ought to be supported. !
He passed a high encomium upon the character and
conduct of Marquis Cornwallit, and censured, in
terms equally severe, the acts of Marquis Wellesley 1
in India, insisting that he had destroyed much hap. !
piness, and contending that we must " not ley the
flattering unction to our souls," that the people of
India were happier or more prosperous under the
Government of Great Britain than under the audio-
rity of their own native Princes. With respect to the
evidence produced on the part of the East India
Company, the witnesses, however respectable, were
bred, and had risen to wealth and fame under the
monopoly of the Company. These, witnesses, too,
were so much at variance with themselves, that be.'
fore he ventured to pronounce on the question, he
shouhrlike to have other evidence to confront with
limn, TiseGentleasessof else OW-pet te bed-not dealt
fairly with the House. Expedition was every thing
with them. For his part, he was no East India Pro. i
prietor, nor in any wise connected with the Out-ports,
but as a Member of Parliament, he wanted in- I
jermation. A Noble Lord in another House (Lord
' Grenville) had given to the world a speech upon this
question, With the sentiments of which he com-i
pletely agreed. They were every day hearing of the]
degeneracy of the times in which we live ; but it
would be degenerate, indeed, even for these our 1
days, if we were not able at once to take to the
Crown what was the right of the Crown—to take it
boldly, end not circuitously—and open the trade to
'the whole of the empire. They had been told of tho
dangerous consequences whith might ensue in India
—the difficulty of preventing smuggling—and the
danger of allowing any but the servants of the East
India Company to go to Canton, while the American_
subjects were, it is well known, already there. He
was amazed that the. Member for Liverpool should
have given upsthe China trade so easily. This was
the most important branch of the whole, and the
one where there was the least danger to be appre-
hended from smuggling. But the Noble Lord (Ces-
tlereagh) had said that the Company must be kept
alive, and it was to be kept Aliso, .that he might be
the Governor of them. The China trade was the
!Meth by which the Contpany wso to be kept alive.
The NW* • Lord- bid awards said, •or mow' to
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Mr. WII I TBR D explained.
Mr. ROBERT THORNTON said, though' he
disapproved of the Resolutions, lie could not agree
to the putting off the discussion on them for three
months. This he conceived would be hazardous
to the interests of the East India Company, and the
uncertainty which it would occasion in their affairs,
would much more than balance any benefit which
might be supposed to arise from delay.
Lord ARCHIBALD . HAMILTON said the
House would not discharge their duty to their Con-
stituents nor to the people of India, if they did not
take the proper time for becoming acquainted with
this qaestion. A number of witnesses had beets
brought forward, who were acknowledged to he fre-
quently at variance with each other. There were do
consents on the table, showing not only the grossest
mismanagement of India, but the utter want of pro-
tection to the people of that country, The admi-
inistration of justice in
-India was, in many points,
entitled to praise ,• but it was in evidence from the
very Judges in India themselves, that the system was
erroneous, and not adapted to give prisoners a fair
trial. They were called on by the Advocates of the
Company to name abuses in the Government of the
Company of late years. Was not Madras almost
lost, by what, in his opinion, was misconduct ou the
part of Sir George *Barlow ?
Mr. TIERNEY said, that he if consulted his own
feelings on the 'subject, he should vote against the
Amendment of his Rt. Hon. Friend, as he wished that
this important subject should be disposed' of as'soon as
it possibly cold ; but, on the other hand, the more
be attended the debates the more he was conviecell
that prolonged discussion would be of the utmost ad'
vantage to the Indian empire. Great inconvenien.
ces would (he was aware) arise from adjourning
the subject at that time,, but greater still from a(I.
journing it, as the Noble Lard would do, after the
Resolutions had been agreed to.—[No! from Lord
Castlereagh.]--,The Noble Lord said, that when the
Bill was brought in it would be the best time for pro.
posing an adjournment ; . but in his (NI. T.'s) opinion,
it was the very worst ; for, if the question was to be
postponed, it would be better that it should be donee
before the House was shackled by any declaration or
its opinions. There would be no regard to decency
finishing the question altogether this Session.--
From the numerous notices on the three first Rests.
lutions,_ it was impossible that they could be dis-
' posed of before next Wednesday or Thursday;
then they were to be taken into consideration
in the Lords, and could not be. recejved thence
after time given for contiderittien in thind Hesse
before the middle of the week after next.--.—e
Then came the Bill under very different circum-
stances from any one on this subject, which
I had at any previous time come
Sunder the consider.
tion of the House. In othertcases there had alwai s
been some compromise between the Government stud
the Company; but now they were as far apart as
I they could be, anti every debate showed the Company
a still stronger light, the jeopardy they were in
Bill being in the nature, and even the terms of
.an agreement, must be submitted to the other party
—the court of Proprietors ; and as they would pre-
•bable object to it, a ballot would take place, so that
it could nut come for discussion before the latter part
of July. Would Gentlemen, he would ask, wish to
stay in town through August? If yes, all was well.
But he was much afraid, that they would be left (as
they were during the last Session, when voting one
hundred and thirteen. millions) with fire-and-twenty
Gentlemen. If the Resolotiont were agreed to, and
the Bill postponed, what loconveniences would ad.*
from this determination going out to India—ts awls
tence of death to the Company. nith to reprieve for
Inonths. He' should Iry very willing himself to sit to
the middle of August, if there appeared a pOssibility
of finishing the business this Session ; but as there
was not, lie should', with unfeigned regret, vote for
the: proposition of his Right /lon. Friend (Sit S.
Newport). If the country were persuaded tha4 the

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not be. made byuny'on• ABW d•st ;!., d , ~,,• , 1* .., 21. ii•oka - -A, ... Lord would come down PteYthe
Ivernment of Ireland. It .
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Honourable CA _eaten • Fes. , ..i.0., .. • um. i. Armatesksdntstrawitiet Illitttinaceir: Company was 'at an end. Theo,- when er thing6
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Durable 'Gentleman's observation, Nfiteli polyr Slit •10.4 W • fair competition to pour Its whale would necessaril:,, fall, unguarded and aupre:
tment quoted was before Inerttlieedb..lig on L Indians. One great reason for do. tected,•into the power of the Crosen; the \cons!•
it, he (Mr. Foster) found the practieeb"forelettbikietnities was, that eireetfisttisceit.shight queue of -which-would be, the destruction of tie
r. Mr. Hill, be'general, It not so unlit Ulla 'Pt .tIVIKPIWIII..BI- .04110•0 yetr. Whkit,..would British Constitution.—lle was degiroat, therefore,
revenue officers, that if he were to el-. *eke aii key material alteration in a matter which that the Heise shouhl be better infoimed,' and hate
hose so. receiving illegal fees, be shoed ''_w
_as of ka most u4ot fispokfooco to the coontry.— the proper-time for deliberation. With respect to the
to find any officers acquainted with busi- He- 114 rcfeiri, move that the further consUer- very moderate 13:11 resolution, on the subject of the
laugh, and Ihar!]—The Right Hon. talon of resolatlons be•poitOned to this day enlightening of India, it had Hs entire approbatioa.
assured those who cheered, that he trash three nut —The question was, were 'they Christians or weed
; this as his argument,[liear, heain--- Lord CASTLERBAGII thought It would be they not ? Why then would. they halt between two
he Right Honourable Gentleman (• r. wrung to defer the geeition to the near sessionv opinions? On this subject also he wibhed to hare •
ted, that the acceptance of such illegal. even from the Right Hone Baronet's arguments.— more time for preparation.
out of the very inadequate salary allowed The InvestiOlon having (One so far, to poilpone it Mr. ti'f EPIIEN said, if the Ifon. Gentleman had
officers, which inadequacy be removed.— wouldbe h. Y Injurious to the several contending , shown him that delay was necessary to the 'interests
point he (Mr. Fitzgerald) added, that it interests, as artery thing that had passed already lof the GO millions of
rpt ; buteopl
einhelnhdaiad,
nhoetshuoreglodd hateoie
let
led to introduce a clause into the new would go:Oothing. He thought the further gpta- ! had his cordial support
,ct, imposing a permanent disqualification - sideration 4 4he Resolutiope ought to be entered . argument for delay founded on Ray abuse in (ho
officer so accepting fees, as the officer a 1.., epos, and it Was only on the Bill to be introduced, ! Government of the people of India. The 13th lie-
ns stated to have done. Adverting to the that a fait tisteiston could be had upon, the subject.— i solution had also his tribute :of applause; but he
ion of Mr. Bankes, the Right Honeurabitt. The great atgumentof the Right Hon. Bercinet.wis, !did not applautrit as a comprpmise, or halting be-
' observed that
inadequate contributier etf be piaduce that the assertion of the Hon. that in thsr.a, eoerse of Slid Mr. year evidence might ftween twa opinions, but as a steering between op.,
tas to
that pit Continuation of the mons/per] itisite. extremes. The I I ool: Giviitietitan lard' itaid4the '
th
, e, expenber of. the empire, wtf rather i Would, bstnecessary.- • Thliiras an :argument whirl' Petitioners had not dealt fairly *int the llouse,l for
de at a period winse,the Irish nation Nis led to diseossionsi: without any end or limitation.—t they brought fnreard no proof: -If by this the Hon.
mtribute no less than sixteen millions to llt wits his intention to bring in a hill, to put the 1 Gentleman meant a proof of abuses committed on the.