The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-08-23 00:00:00

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once sine* the 14th. and the eerrersatiou was oboe t
the beet.
Have pHs Nad arty conversation with his father arse
the I4th
Witness—Yee, once since then. •
What was your rottversation with his father?
Mr. Hanson objected to the question.
Juryman—Hatf you any cousmussication upon this
subject ?
Ms. Hanson repeated his ohjection.
The *Slues& asked the Coroner whether he was bound
to answer that question ?
The question was repeated.
Witness.-1 dare say it migh: be in some part concern-
ing it.
Juryman.—The Jury will be glad to hear what it sass?
Witness.—The Major asked sue if 1 kuew soy dying el
the business ; he touched vest/ little ou the subject.
A Juryntan.—Did he ailvise you to come forward.
or to stay away ?—Witness.—lle said nothing on
that subject.
Mr. WAITHMAM.—Were you in tie betroths yester-
day:—Witness. I was.
Mr. WAITHMA: .—How were yon introduced Ft—Wit-
necs. I was summoned. I received a printed paper at
half-past one or two o'clock yesterday ; I 'lnn's Inow
who signed st ; 1 Rut a p.i .t-d tlcket at a puhlirhouse in
lioirtabridj:o ; a man bronchi the Nimmons t• my hues. ;
I was never snoru bell re on this business, nor exa-
mined.
Mr. WAIIMHAY.-1401. did you pet into the bar-
racks. 2 IV ere you not knocked down ? I know that
no printed paper would admit the Cououvr OfJery,ascl
I want to know how this tteutlesu4u came Mho ad-
mitted 1'
The examinatiOn proceeded-

I received * printed paper ; I was not in the Teens
with other witnesses; I asked one of the Guards to
let me staud on►sidc of th. door, it was so warns.

Did they ask you whether you were examitsed any
where ?-1 don't recollect that tviestiou being put;
I gave the ticket, and was fleshed to pass on.
You don't know the lothlic-house to which you went?
—No; I was sin hurried along that 1 took no notice ;
when my nano. was tailed I went in. but was not exa-
mined, though 1 was:. detained there about four hours
and a half ; I don't know why I Wel% sonetnoned, but 1
passed up the line of troops, and 1 understand the other
witnesses did the same, in order to swear to the men; 1
told the people at the public-house that I could not swear
to the man ; I was accompanied op the line by a sol-
dier, I saw some gentlemen in plain clothes; they asked
me fur my name, and went with use part of dm way
along the line of troops, but nut the whole way; 1 did
not see any other witnesses go np Ilse line when I did;
was in the room where the other witnesses were, hut it
was so hot, l asked leave to stand outside; when I went
up the line I was nut asked to identify any of the sol-
diers; when my name was called over, 1 stated that I
could not identify any is:Prom ; hut I was not asked whe-
ther I could or not ; 1 did lint Yee Lieut. Gore there ; 1
did not go through the tine ; 1 went up the middle line,
bnt did not look at the officers or soldiers with a view
to identify the tnan ,• I was told that I was to sweet, to
the man who had killed the deceased; I did not see
Lieut. Bore shoot at all
Mr. Warriniset.—Then, thoggis yOU were so accurate
au observer of the stohes, and the numbers of the
people, you did not see Licut. tlore shoot ?-IVitoaes.
No, I did not.
the FoltEllAX.—Do you believe that Unguent
(lore was not in the Barracks on that day ?---aittient. I
can't say.
Juryman—el have no doubt from your evidenre hut
that you know Lieut. (lore well. Did you WA., cos
there resemble him?—Witness. No. I did tot see any
other officer whose face I know, on the 14th, but
Lieut. Gore. 1 might have known others, but could
not distinguish them; I cannot recollect, the confnsiuse
was so great. In the course of that day I saw some
soldiers riding about to clear the way ; that was the
time they were pelted. 1 saw one horseman riding on
the footway. I don't think he was there with the
intention of hitting any man. The titan was a private.
Juryinan--.Was that one man capable of driving off
thousands of people ? Did he do so ?--Witness. There
were several men in different directions. The firing
took place after the hearse had passed through the
gate.
Juryman—What lapse of time was there between
the time when the horses' heads were pointed down
Oxford-street, and when they were turned to Edgware-
road?—Witness. About 10 minutes. Ido not know
Sir Robert Baker. I sate some strange Gentlemen
there at the time, and heard the cry of " Murder"
distinctly. I don't know whether any other petal.,
were admitted who had not been exainised, and who
said that they could not identify the penes. I did
not return back after passing down the line. bat went
out at the other gate.
Mr. WsiTemse.—Did you say to any lay, within
these three hours, o what doe* Dlr. Moises meta wee
again, I had enough of it yesterday ; 1 bed elo Istegan eti
it ?"-IVitness. Ido nut recollect whether need the
name of Mr. Hanson, but I said something to a 04111110.
man to that effect.
It was suggested by some of the Jury that this wit.
nets should not withdraw.
The next witness was a Scotch Highlander, who stated
that the oath taken in Scotland was not mhos ho NMI
then required to take. lie then entered into as
nation of the oath as taken in_ Seethed, , if
sworn by that form of oath, he %%mild tell tit es
far as he knew.
The English mode of taking the oath was then read.
and he was asked if be had any ohjectiou to. it? Ile
said no.
He then proceeded-11v name is Vosges Odder; 1
am a porter at the Hyde Yard: Hotel • I saw the people
flocking about on the 1401, and an ;Seer called at the
hotel, and ordered 13 pints of porter for his men, being
in number 13; accordingly I went to the puddle
and ordered them to send-, shit+ was done; 1 is
ing oat all day for the procession ; and aeon after there
was a terriblesight of people coming up Park-lane, nsem
ten' sun ordered me to put the shutters to. The crowd
was so great, as to thrust me back, and my master or-
dered me to get the doors shut ; I was then Asps, to ppt
up the shutter, bnt could not, as the people erowdei so
upon me ; accordingly I look In the abutter. and shut
the door, all the rest had rnn up stairs, that is, the fa-
wily, and I followed them; 1 went np stairs ; she nest
thing which attracted my attendee as I looked over the
window was, the soldiers with drawn swords Jr; ring
among the people, one I saw endeavouring to ride On
the pavement among the people, and he spitted his
horse, trying to riser the At I_ll elloh
time the people were ea the adding
went away Awn the window. that I might Set ass
the people eat down by their tweeds time 1 heard

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glow, awe I saw the soldiers close to the
side of it, us far awl could see by them,
were firing in different directions; 1 though)
formed tis a square, as I saw some of thei'
some their faces; when the hearse came
about destine the soldier was in the par
horse ; he ram. in at Cumberland-gate
about that time, there were some men who
of tbeherses' heads at the time, !mean
horses which were drawing the hearse,
to get it down Oxford-street. There was
colones is his Lands just close by the hearse
he was knocked down, 1 do'nt know by -
got up again, and waved the colours to
nu bricks thrown while the soldiers were
the procession passed on, and I saw the
uish away. I did not hear the Riot Act
' thee • I did noises any Magistrate actii
4silicer expostulating with the people; t
was looking out of the window at the
myself, in the window below me, but
fore I was; 1 don't particularly know
ordered the beer, he mentioned his name
eon when be ordered the beer; his nat
bad ne summons to attend any where
master had no conversation with him r.n
his testimony; and no man could make
from the truth.
By Mr. Hassos.—Me Master might
two or three minutes before use, and
have seen nsore. The first thing whi
tention was the soldiers nits drawn s%
'the people ; at the same time I ohaerved'
bats being throws. As I was not lot
I did not see many of thew thrown.
time before I went down to my mast.'
the firing caused we to go to the wi
time. I saw a soldier down before his
ther he had been struck !cannot tell.
nut deceive me, I think it was one "1
I saw souse of the red cloaks struck
stones, that was before the firing ; I
people attempt to stop up Edgware-road
procession had passed Cumberland-1g;
Brat to the window; the gates were
not observe any thing of the gates
were shut before the procession come
By Mr. Waithutan--1 continued
windows not many minutes, but I
long, as my mind was in much agit
not above fire minutes. The peopl
stones when I went to the window,
were driviag them ; I don't know wl
I saw about twenty stones thrown ;
hundred ; I heard the firing cotnmei
down; 1 saw no stones thrown aftet
silenced ; t saw Nobody fire ; I heard ____
not see the pistols flash ; 1 saw the man who was killed
go past. and then I ran down to my master, who was at
the window on the first floor ; he could not be more
than ten or twelve yards from the man who was shot. I
should think there were 100,000 people in the procession
iu the Park and all ; I swum all that passed ; all who
passed at the time ; I cannot say but there must have
been some thousaads; 1 dill not see the soldiers strike
any of the people with their swords between oar house
and the gate ; 1 saw the man struck down with the
colours; my meter was looking out of the window as
the time I said ; 1 went at a distance from the window,
not liking to see the people cat dowse ; 1 saw the sot-
Alen cutting among the people ; I did not see one
*wk. bet I thought they would strike them, and I
did set like to see it; I don't know Mr. llere's father;
11 want to a window after the man was killed, but did
not see any officer ; I saw the man with the colours
down, and saw him get up and wave his colours, but
can't say what was done after that ; he was down just
before the horse's bead ; 1 saw the man who was shot
carried away; the man was shot in the breast, and I
saw the blood; it was from a quarter to sweaty minutes
that persons remained there afterwards.
Here it was observed that one of the Jiffy was very
unwell—this was Mr. Moore.

Mr. Weidman said, that some witnesses were wait-
ing now emotions to give their evidence, bat under the
circuasstaotes he should net press the matter.
The Witness proceeded.—lt was about ten minutes
, after the throwing of the brick-bats that the firing► com-
menced—not more; I heard the people cry out " shame"
when the horseman was riding on the path-way.
The Foreman took occasion to observe before the ail-
joarnmeat, that Mr. Stafford had not yet arrived. A
reason bad been assigned in the letter to the Coroner
from Mr. Birnie, which he supposed was a correct one,
for, as Mr. Birnie bad taken no umbrage at being called
upon to attend, be saw no reason why Mr. Stafford
should.
The Coroner said, that the Jury bad no reason to sap-
pose be would take umbrage.
Mr. Waltman suggested, that if Mr. !Ernie or Wr.
Stafford could not Identity the person, the Adjutant
shield be aria called.
This suggestion being acceded to, it was determined
that the Airy should then adjourn.
Mr. Waldman informed the Jury that there were
some pa.o in attendance who were not permitted to
see the soldiers paraded became they bad tot bees pew
vionsly snamiaad.
TM Jury adjoweitod at ten o'clock till two on Friday.

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subside--hut
Maw • the men, I blamed those who missed .
there, and I added, that if the promise made by Sir R.
Baker had been kept, no mischief would have happened.
I then took up any glass and drank " a speedy receipt-
Ration between the Life Guards and the people." Vie
%oldier bowed an assent to my tout, and drank I. ay
good health. The soldier said that his had seen Resod
accounts of the transactions at Harwich respecting the
treatment of the Queen's corpse. I told hint that I was
one of the tonitnittee who attended the remains of
the Queeu from Hammersmith to Harwich. The
soldier slid, "Now, Sir, you can tell the truth, and I
should be obliged to you for as account of it ?"--
I gave an account of all I witnessed, and I concialled
by saying (what I again repeat on oath) " that die
soils which contained the remains of her Majesty,
was taken oat of the hearse in a most indecent haste
and slung on the crane at the jetty, before the mourn-
ers were let out of the coaches.." The soldier ejacu-
lated, " Uod bless inc." At this instant two other
soldiers came in, and the first mentioned soldier in-
formed them that I had been giving them a descrip.
tion of the embarkation of the body of the Queen, Isr
which he said he was touch obliged to me. The two
soldiers called for a pot of beer and drank my gest
health. Some mutton chops being brought in I was
invited by site soldiers to partake of them, whlsh I did.
I jocosely remarked upon accepting their offer, "
will take a mutton chop with you, but no other chop
if yen please." This excited laughter; I paid my
quota of the reckoning, and the room soon became
filled with soldiers. There were nine Life (horde
sad es* serjean:s of the first Foot Guards is
the room. A serjeant of die Life Guards, named
• • • •, whom I had once sees before, called cue
by name, and said that he knew I was a radical.
—lle eadeavoured by the most gross acid in-
sulting language to de all in hie power to
irritate me. I told him I was a radical
reformer, but not a radicle! mordera, or a
radical firebrand. This serjeant, seconded by his
oempanions, made use of the most filthy sod bossily
language respecting the late Queen and Aldermaa
Wood, and said that the latter was a disappointed
radioed, is coasegoence of the Queen leaving him
nothing in her and that the Queen on her death-
bed bad admitted that Wm. Austin was her sem. 1
replied flatly that it was a downright falsehood. The
soldiers then attacked she ---• in the me
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sought they were I am, fee. Joe!. WPITAII t‘.
' their bodies and 13, Union.street, Borough, Ang. it MI.
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mremellt with his `• The following incident, the irides of whirls inav be
a to Oxford-Street relied On. will thew moat tursibly the attempt, ate%
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ed laids ofils tc il de are Making to subvert the soldiers from their duty :...
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On Monday night, as a party of the Life Ottani' we .
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jfaking some supper at the King's Head polsllaikobei .
was motionama f
withai , nearly opposite the Barrack-gate, apemen Well dressag . I
learse at the time ; in mourning joined then., and began to ply them with I
liquor,- until he considred they were in a talkat;is
iy whom,
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to anl fro; I saw humour, when lie began queStioning them respertit 1
ere firing. Ths-- a their opinions of the late affair. The men were rani./ .
the people all •a* surprised, and answered h I
iui ambiguously. At length i
read during this Corporal Wilson (an old 'soldier) cause in, and recogna:
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dog, nor any civil Ing the man in black to be a notorious Radicul, mood I
my master s sen Whitaker, who had interested himself in getting up 4 1
e same time with
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subscription for Thistlewood and his associates, inimaii4 • I
he was there ha' stele communicated the fact to the teen, who rose np in 1
r the officer that the greatest indignation, and desired him to quit the _
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Ile to mr„_master'',' house. Whitaker did so ; but immediately tworeeded 41 1
ume was tu're.„,,' the centinel on duty, 'whom be abused mid threaten/4C. l
before here. Hie till at length it was found necessary to duck him Insulin,
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on subject of and be then took himself off, threatening to seek redress s
mice him deviate at Hew-street." i
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AFFIDAVIT OF JOIIN WOITAKIR. OF lINION-ST/IPT, I
fight be up stairs h
A possibly might SOCTIWA RD.
rhich took meat- .•
I, John Whitaker, of No. Itl, Union.street, in the I
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Borough of Southwark, in the county of Surrey,i de
swords dispersing
make Oath and say, that, on Monday August 213, e
haervedthr brick-
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rag at the window
1841, having business with
_Mr. Birch, an undertaker,
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I stopped a little
at Knightsbridge, near the barracks, I went to trans-
act ft, and being extremely fatigued with walking, I
er. The noise of
window the second went into the King's Bead public-house, and tom; a d
seat in the parlour, no person being there but myself. d
his horst, but whe-
I. /i my eyes did I rang the bell and called for some ram and cold water. h
I had not sat many minutes before a man in colotuot a
f the blue cloaks ;
clothes and a soldier of the Life (Wards came Mud p
w
k by brick-bats or
I did not see the took their seats in the same box with myself. Tl:e b
person in coloured clothes; I found to be a post-assesT,
road ;*itosie of the g
gate when I went and a conversation
. arose rerpecting the evils whir.,
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ocs 'urea to post-masters in consequence of haring it
then shut; I did
drunken ses vents. I recommended as a •
s except that they I
the evil to establish a fund to reward the ind
P up. •
the and sober, that they might have some better 1
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lup stairs nay rsat 01; Oler all their services, in view, than a wesek-li '
This person, and also the soldier concaved w 1,,
ihtion, but I was
opinion. I mention this merely to show that wily ~
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pie were throwing no conversation of a political nature introduce* .
, and the soldiers, The soldier alluded to the unfortunate affray on „ i
which commenced i Jay the 14th instant. 1 remarked to him that 1 was es- . X
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; I did not see a tretsely sorry that the Regiment to which he ' 4
nice before 1 went had been placed in such a situation, which exclitirdasegg ,
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.r the firing cool-
ill feelings between the Life Guards and the people, . g
which I bored would shortly subside--but I did set
J the shots hut did L
.... • blaur.• the men, I blamed those who caused their being It