The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-05-10 00:00:00

TIIE STA'

At.nnortouati ELECTION.
bfr. LITTLEI ON brought up the Report of the
Cc:nuance appointed to take into consideration the Pe-
lion against the ALM:rough Election, which declared
tirat the Si flog Member, Mr. An:l.olms, had been duly
mected ; but that the Petition against his retorts, did
net appear to be frivolous or vexat ous.
Petitions were presented from Bromley in Kent, front
neckford, and other Parishes, againq the Metropolitan
Road Bill. Ordered to lie on the table.
Sir F. KNATC11111:11, presented Petitions from
Greenwich, Woolwich, Deptford, Len isbam, Foots-
rrav, Becksley, Chislelmrst, and some other places,
against the Metropolitan Road Bill. The Hon. Mem-
Per hoped when the Bill came to be discussed, the
lioase would remember the number of Petitions which
Lad been presented against it, from which might be
collected the general dislike to the unea,ure which pre-
vailed. Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. Alderman HEYOATE presented a Petition from
the Mayor and Corporation and others of Sndhury,
agait.st a compulsory mode of education.—Ordered to
hi on the table.
S. WHITBREAD presented a Petition from the
Coach-masters, of Hounslow, against the Metropolitan
Road Bill.—Laid on the table.
Mr. MA cTIN (of Galway) presented a Petition
from several Stage Coach Proprietors in the City of
Loudon, complauing of the state of tho law with re-
a;7;et to the injuries done to hones. The lion. Mem-
ber enumerated the various descriptions of hardship
which a horse owner was liable to be subjected to from
the ill treatment of those entrusted with their horses.
from a deficiency in that respect in the law of the land.
A person not worth five shillings might knock out the
e e of a horse, or lame it, and the expences of prose-
cation, as the law now stood, with .:hances of the
men's never paying his damages, and escaping u,,der
the Insolvency Act, offered no prospect of indemnifi•
cation to the owner thus injured. Notwithstanding
this view of the case, as a question of property, he
thought as a question betwixt the man and the beast,
some better system of law should be framed ; far con-
sidered as an article of accommodation, eigher as a
chair, a table, or a mail coach, it would be incumbent
on those who injured them to pay for that injury. The
Pkitioners were of the most respectable class, and all
they prayed for, was such an amendment in the law
on th's subject, as to enable them to convey an offen-
d-r before a magistrate, for summary punishment at
thsevetion.
Mr. Alderman BRYDOES made a few observations
on the sang' subject, which were itsattlible in the Gal-
lery. Th.. Pet lion was read and ordered to be printed.
METROPOLITAN OAS COMPANIES.
Mr. Nti, pursuant to notice, moved fur the ap-
pOionneat of a Committee to consider of :he propriety
04r-twin a re% ival of the Charter of the Metropoli•
tau 6.15 Comp 'try.
Sir C. DOMVILLE opposed the motion on the
jeiona.l that there w a no necessity for any other com-
pany ,1) r•otyly th tow with gas, that at present ex •
most respectable aild irreproachable, with
refer •ne.• t r past conduct.
Mr. trREN..'It a., sail, that it the app
Cutnuu' e' ointment of the
,%uttld tend to the prodne ion of compeli-
t.on, he rare.' not how respectable the parties concerned
were. ne public would he sure to benefit, and be would
divide toe House in favour of the Hon. Member's (Mr.
Eytt,'N) motion.
ir J. YOItKE wished to live the House a bit of
warn; ag aro t .is subject. They hail already got to
deal the Water Companies of the Metropolis,
whi ; i:ay.trz by the gracious permission of that House
been loodnitt...l to ruin themselves, combined to ruin
others tie wished to point nut to the House that ex-
eri war in this ease %hewed them that it did not ne-
tessarily tollow that competition must be useful to the
public.
Atli- some further observations from Mr. Alderman
BRUMES, Sir I. !'berry. Mr. Bvsto, and Mr. PETER
MROgt, the House divided. when the numbers were—
For the motion, 93--Against it, S7—Majority, 6.
BREACH" OF Pr.ICILEGE.
the motion of Mr. RENNET, the Order of the
Dap was read for Mr. Weaver to attend.
The SPEAKER directed the Serjeant at Arms
to inquire whether Mr. Weaver was in attendance;
anal qn being informed that he wets, ordered him to be
calli4 in.
On Mr. Weaver's appearance at the Bar, be under-
went an examinatior to the following effect :
By the SPEAKER.—What is your name?—Robert
'1 bowie Weaver.
See you the T. Weaver whose same is placed at
- lie and of that paper (a copy of the Joan Bull, SSW
ut leper, of Sanaay hist, was here pet Into lit.
V. • aver's band by the Clerk,) as its printer and Feb-
-sherf-1 to.
&At WWI ono.* which is loathed, sad infers,
1.11691* 101.40111, Ntl fro* whom yos eiseeived that
tCh ?--1 4.0 state toll& Floc House, that
sped se .Mlashisi as the printer and rib.

%Wier of the paper ; but that the literary part of it is
Dot entirely under my superintendance. Many arti•
vies Ido not see before the paper goes to press. That
vu the case with the one in question. I never saw it
until it was pointed out to me as having given offence
to this Hon. House. 1 beg to add that I am extremely
sorry that I have given offence to this Hon. House, or
to any of its Hon. Members. Such was never my in-
tention, or that of any person connected with the
paper.—(A laugh.)--1 can only say, that lam ex-
tremely sorry that any thing has appeared in the paper
offensive to the House, and that I am anxious to make
every reparation in my power.—(Hear.)
By Mr. BENNET.—Who was the person who gave
yon the paragraph to which your attention has been
called ?—That paragraph was not give
en t
?o me.
ant not
Do you know to whom it was givn —I
aware; I did not see the paragraph until it was in

print.
Who is charged in your absence with the manage-
ment of the press ?—The Editor.
What is the name of the Editor:—qtr. Cooper.
What is his Christian name ?—I think it is henry.
Is he the sole Editor of the Paper ?—1 cannot answer
that; all newspapers are in the habit of receiving com-
munications from other partieswith this. I
cannot say, therefore, that 3lr. Cooper is,
the sole

Editor.
Where does Mr. Cooper live?—Soinewlir-re in the
neighbourhood of Blackfriars'.road, as I am informed.
Is the House to understand that you do not know ex-
actly where Mr. Cooper lives, but that be merely lives
somewhere in the neighbourhood of Hlackfriars'-rnail
—I do not know exactly the place of Mr. (7oopers resi-
dence. but I believe it is somewhere in Blacitfriars'-road,
or near it.
When does Mr. Cooper come to the office of the Paper?
—He is generally there every day.
How long has he been the Editor?—For some time
past, I cannot exactly say how long.
If you wish to communicate with the Editor when be
is absent from the office, where do you send?—l never
have any occasion to communicate with him. He attends
regularly every day.
At what hour?—For several hours ; generally from
1 ten till half-past seven or eight.
Was he at the office when von came away ? When did
1
you see him last? About what time ?_About three
o'clock.
Did you communicate to him at that time that von
were ordered to attend this House ?---I did not commit-
nicate it to him because he was engaged with a gentle-
, man ; but of course he cannot be ignorant of it.
Are you the printer, publisher, and sole proprietor of
this newspaper i—l am•
flow long have you been the printer, ptiblisher, and
sole proprietor?-1 cannot exac,lv state the time.
How long have you been the printer, publisher, and
sole proprietor ?-1 do not exactly recollect ; a consider-
able time; since Christmas.
Were you the printer, publisher, and sole proprietor
and
of the paper from the beginning ?-1 nose inter
publisher from the be.rinning.
Who was the proprietor at the beginning?-1 think
Messrs. Shackell and Arrowstnitb. I think their names
were at the Stamp Office.
Did you purchase the paper; and if yon did, of whom:
—I purchased it of Messrs. Shackell and Arrowsmith.
Is not the house in which the Paper is printed, that
in which Mr. Arrowsmith lives?—Yes, for the purpose
of carrying on his nosiness?
I n fact, are you not a journeyman of Mr. A rrowsolith's,
receiving a salary of three guineas a week?-1 have an
engagement with Mr. Arrowsmitli ; but as to the three
guineas a week, I am concerned in other parts of his

business.
Is the House to understand that you are not the sole
proprietor, but that you Aare the Paper with Mr. Ar-
rowsmith ?-1 have other arrangements with him, but
not as to the Paper.
Then you persist that von are the sole Proprietor of
the Paper, and 'hat Mr. Arrowsmith has no connexion
with it ?—As to that. some arrangements have been
making for my purchase of the Paper, hut as they are
not entirely concluded yet, I cannot be said to be wholly
the Proprietor.
Did von no- swear at the Stamp Office, on the 10th
And the 24'h of February, that von were the Printer,
Publisher, and sole Proprietor of the Paper called J,.hn
Bed! f—Y e..
What price did vou agree to pay Mr. Arrowsmith
for his giving np into your lianas his share of the pro-
fits of the Paper ?—As to that, there have been a nom-
her of transactions between us, and it has nut been
finally determined.
How, under those circumstances, when the price was
not settled, conl,l you swear that you were the sole
proprietor of the paper ?—Beeause I conceived that I
became the sole proprietor by his agreeing to give
op the profits to me, although the price was not ►
finally
settled.
Was that agreement in writing ; and if so, where is
it ?—lt was not in writing.
Was there no memorandum of it. Of what nature
was it? Was it merely verbal ?—lt was verbal.
What was the nature of it ?—The nature of it was,
that I was to heroine the sole proprietor on my giving
a certain sum of money, which sum of money has nut
yet been fixed on.—(A laugh.)
Had any prosecution been commenced against the
newspaper when the arrangement between you and Mr.
Arrowsmith was so arranged ?—y el. one.
Who receives the profits of the paper now ?—I do.
Do you keep them yourself, or do you account to any
one for them ?-1 have accounted iu various ways as to
the proceeds of the paper.
Is the House to understand that you account to
Mr. Arrowsmith for the proceeds of the paper ?

No.
To whom do you account fur them ?—Since I be-
came proprietor I bare not acconnted at all ; but as I
Lave already stated, the purchase money has not been
wetly settled.
Do yon receive the whole profits of the paper and
keep them ?---The proceeds go to discharge the varbeen
irus
uconnts of the paper ; some of them have not yet
received.
But such surplus proceeds as bait been tollived,
you keep ?—Yes.
Was slate., any WIMP'S to the verbal ogreMlibt be-
tween rot and Mr. Arrowstoillb

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