The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-04-06 00:00:00

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a falling-off in the importation from Norwae,lh..o
was not a eorrespontlent increase in that fro ot I aria
and I'rwaria; the t:f ts) ht have
i deals,oa anti flit• stet, sf
the internal ri .
lint the firt afforded no couutenauce to the ergauteit
ittsiell om
A fr. Nit I denied that the colons,' re swe ma*,
rially interested iu this tpiestion, ur that they
any respect
opiph.re.szilthi s.oi.riii;
i -t,rfea ourteol
They by this cuptitß
• ri
(Ince, soil ever, it, fact, the loot tl • triting pan Of
North America. Besides, the timber trade hid groin
up ti:ere but lately, mid WAS altogether the creator,
of duties and restrictions. Much, he would aths4,
ought to he avertlis I the tr.. to le mainteoaner of our uttvsl
supe.iootity, but even to find it WAS possible In wake
WO great a sacrifice. To stead foto thoattaild wiles,(
to the (metro regions of Canasta fur timber, inferior to'''
that which they might have fr ;111 the distance of a
few hundred nines, w.o, in hill to.' peat a sib,
cri!ice. Something, le.iivever. he web ttilliog to
in fAVGOII, of that o'ioi et, itittl therefore the 'iodination
of his mind was to copport the propoNition of the
Chairman of the Cotninittee, which went far enough;
and it was generally safer to atoi.le by the ,ted.i.n ei
a Committee, than to take op opinions f. 0.0 the etits
sory remarks that iti the progress of dimisiion.
Mr. Kit AIIAN) observes) that the Cneetaittreern o.
reign Trade heti lA4 down just principles, hut prto
dotted a report at variance with all those iitioteat.us.
No country was more fortunately placed with respells
to timber than this, for the go.od timber WI, near as,
and the bail was mattes., and Moles and Arts of Par-
„
amitieut were necessary to make us chose the bad. The
Member fur Shrewsbury bad shown that the country
was taxed to the autumn of four hundred ihou,al4
pounds anunally fur the benefit of the ship owners,
Fur his own part, he would rather agree, to a direct In
ht that amount, than to each a dun as the pretest,
fo: the capital granted to theship-ownersoiiAt inthat
case lot better employed. It had been said that Nunny
bad her toll portion of the trade in deals, hut what be
m.,intained was, that the trade should be left r.
frctly tree. The Mouse had molting to du with the
shipping interests, or with the Colonial tra.lr, or with
any interest but that of the consumer, which is
shears the public interest. it was right that the
'people of 77mglantl should have a power to purchase
eve: r thing where it could be had un the cheapet
terms, and to employ themselves in that Ira !e which
was most to their advantage. It hail b..en said, that
if we imported deals fano Norway, she could not tale
our inanu:aetures, hot that te;:s of nu istiportauct
object was to get deals cheap, and there we could gat
thesis. Another argument was, that in case of a Tap
red with the Baltic, they might refuse to supply
and therefore i.e should nut destroy the Casulitut
trade ; but the wood omit still continue to grow is
America, and from thence we could have it at the
high price, whenever eirconistatires reduced es to the
alternative. Ile (Mr. Ricardo) expected, on the pre-
sent occasion, the support of the President of the Board
of 'I ride. The Itis,lit honourable gentleman
that if we were beginning a new sycesii, a difirrnit
principle from that of the present might be acted sa.
Now lee (Mr. Ricardo) conceived that we were eaVI
beginning the Trade—that we were perfectly watt-
term] ; for the Report stated that this toiletry was
under no engagement with America, and was these.
fore at liberty to pursue the course most prohtslole W
itself.
Mr. MARRY AT contended, that the first slaty
st
that house was to protect the Shipping Trade; bat
it areareol to hint that toey were How called oasts
sacriice the best interests of the country to fineigeers
—to nations which had given to England so nosy
I proofs of ingratitude, and to whose views she turf-
, heed her blend and treasure. Ihe navigation systra
an long acted on in Euglatid, was attended with es•
tional greatness and conituerciol pro-perity. To hey
it wools! be to argue against the evidence of facts.
lie thought that any violent alteration in the system
could not be ma to without injustice and injury to the
citatory.
Mr. T. WILSON said, that oar Shipping Intense,
ought to form a a primary 'object with that Hesse.
Ile had lived long enough in the world to give that
country the preference which admitted oar mouse
ditie., before the casuistry which would exclude tutor,.
Mr. P. LEWIS supported the Anarniussut.
Mr. WALI.ACR replied shortly.
Sir H. PARNELL withdrew his Amendment.
Mr. J. P. ORANT gave notice that toe woohl move
for a different scale of I sties on a future occasion.
Mr. WALLACE observed, that the Hon. Member
might make his useti.oi at present.
Mr. J. P. GRANT said that be would have us ab-
jection to do so, if the forms of the Mouse ovate sa•
mit of it.
The Comtuittee then divided—
lljnor the original Motion, 7I—Against it. 617
Majority, 47. '
Sir PARNI3I.I., while strangers remised
chided, proposed an Amenslasent to limit (we male.
stand) the scitesiule of duties to five years. AM
which the trade should be entirely free. The CO'
mime divided
For the Amendment, Is—Against it, 51-411'
jority, 36,
The house then resumed.
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Adjourned at a quarter before 'I a o u'Cloch•
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Burgh. J. J. Osamu, John Calvert, Right As& II
Canning. Vier. enetlereugh, K. S. Claret, Arkin kik
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Cockerrll, Hon. J. S. Corks, Hon. John Corks.
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