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no such apprehension could be entertained, as no such
care was, he hoped, likely to recur, and this formed
another marked distinction between the two motions.
Mr. WILLIAMS remarked, that the Noble Lord had
rot coupled with his motion any statement that the
hing's Attorney and Solicitor lienerals should nut
vote upon the Bill of Pains and Penalties in that
House, if such a Bill were brought down from the
wiher House of Parliament.

Lord Cssirtatuattou said, that he had stated it the
outset that such was the distinct ittolerstandin4.
Mr. BROUGHAM declared that he should nut oppose
this motion, altheugh be was at a loss to conceive
upon what ground it was itroposed. It was observed
by the Noble Lord, that the Attorney and Solicitor
tienerals were Counsel for the rublic as well as for the
Crown. Put every Menibrr of the House of Lords
s"al, as well as even• one of the Judges, Counsel fur
the Public, while it twist be allowed that the Crown
i•al quite enough of representation iu that llout:e iu
1-e great Officers of State, and where then was the
t ..vessity for rallinir in the aid of the King's Attorney
d Solicitur-tietierals, to whose presence, however, un
occasion he had no objection.—The motion was
arrerl

Lk. Lt sat% o toy said, that having been applied to
or the part of the glis.en for his professional whirr
asistanre, hr hal to move, that the same indul-
gence shonld be roeceded to him that had been granted
tJ other., of attendingat the liar of the House of Lords,
with the understanding of coarse that he should not vote
upon the Hill of Pain. and 41`enallies if It should be
broti6l,t down to that House.
Lord CA4 TWICAtaII declared, that he should not
0314..1 to the grant of the proposed indulgence to any
Learned lientleman who might be retained ou the
other Aide.

Sir .1. Mat wiN rose observed, that the engagement
of a civilian upon the occasion to which the motion
referred, was a proceeding of peculiar propriety, and
tbcrefure he concurred in that motion. There were
hdeed various grounds upon which his Hon. and
Learned Friend's motion should be acceded to, itide-
re•-dently of any general notion of indulgence.
WINS felt that this motion did not rest upon
ee same principle as those which the Vouse had
It ought proper to adopt. The principle indeed upon
ebich the Attornevs and Solicitors-lieneral of their
Majesties were allowed to attend the Bar of the Lords,
ards by no means applicable to the ease of his Leal :Ned
Friend. and ?herr:ore he should nut assent to the motion.

Ut. &via:a.' apprehended that the adoption of the
pre-ent motion would open t,lo wide a door fur the per-
m i,gion of Ilarrioers who our Members of that House.
It.; plead in the other House upon Divorce and other
private Bills. If such a essut;on were agreed to, he
fe:t in !eed that it would be in to pros ide that it
ah‘ttlil net he dr.ucu into precedent.
Ih^ motion was agreed runt led with the
that it should no. be sir awn into precedent in any
other case.

Mr. BROUGHAM obtained leave to bring in a Bill fur
improving the Administration of Endowments con-
nected with Edu..ation.

BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.—SirJ. Newmanr rose
to tall the attention of the House to a subject upon
which he was somewhat at a loss to deckle, whettu.t.
he •huttld move at once or give notice of a motion fur
to-morrow. This subject referred to the conduct of a
no:chug of the build of Merchants in Dublin, whit la
took plac:• on the tith inst. The professed object of
their meeting was to consider of petitions against the
clause inserted in the Court of Chancery (Ireland) Bill,
fur excluding a Master in Chancery from a seat in that
House. But at this meeting such speeches were de-
livered and such resolutions adopted as involved a di-
r. et breach of the privileges and a gross libel upon
the character of that House. A Colonel Blacker, who
optieil the discussion, was reported in a Journal n hick
h•• held in his hand to have thus expressed himself.
He wi-lied (hr said) that some individual of wore
consequence than himself had been the first to chal-
lenge the attention of the meeting; he would du so,
however, only in the hope that what in him was only
the turning of the trampled worm, would be the cause
of awakening the roarings of the slumbering lion.—
laughter.)--The question before this assembly
was nut a mere party question—it involved the Consti-
tution itself, and most particularly the rightsand liber-
t;es of the e!ectors of this shy. In this view he would
submit Resolutions that sonic might think strong ; 1
but this WAS nut a time for courtly phrases. Cord
LAstlereagh had made an attempt upon their rights,
t'.c must extraordinary that even he had ever ventured,
and be should be told in a voice of thunder that he
had to do with men Who Would ow safer it."--(l.ong
continuo d laughter.)—But the Resolution adopted on
the proposition of this Act, contained an attack upon
the whole !loose of Commons, which k charged with
MI attempt to degrade the Constitution to the purposes
of party. The whole of the Resolutions were of the
same tenor and tendency. But not contented with
abasing the House collectively, the advocates for Mas-
ter Ellis abused the Members of all parties. He had
already quoted a precious specimen of their abase upon
the NOM, Lord.-- But they did not confine themselves
to the Noble Lord, for they characterised the language
of his Hon. and Learned Friend (Sir J. Mackintosh)
as •• the impudent assertions of the Representative foe
the obscure Borough of littaresborongh—(Loud laugh-
ter)--with respect to the conduct of the ealightesed
Electors for Dublin."--(Laughter).—lt would he for
the House to consider whether any proceedings should
be taken against persons wlto had thus vilified its cha-
racter and violated its privileges. Bnt the most ex-
traordinary circumstance belonging to this extraordi-
nary meeting was this, that the most prominent per-
sons in supporting the offensive resolutions were pub li
-
lic officers nodose the Government, while the majority
*Aids voted the reeolatious, belonged to that infatu-
ated association called Orangemen, who assumed to.
monopolise the loyalty of indeed. The Right Hon.
Basset concluded with proposing, that the Master
and Secretary of the Guild of Merchants of Dublin,
should be ordered to attendat the Bar of the House,
with the book in which was inserted the resolutions
pulsed by that Guild on the occasion alluded to.
But after a short pause, the Right Hon. Baronet
moved, that Job. Magee, proprietor of The Doaii.,
Amway Post, from which be read the observations
used reeehttioes to _Ada he had referred, should be
dimmed to seised at the Bat OD Thanday se'asight.
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