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which he argued must, from the state of the finances
of Ireland, ultimately some oat of the paeltets of the
people of England. The Commissioners now golic
to Ireland would soon ascertain this fact; they wouli
have to report that Ireland wee rallied. All delleieo-
cies most therefore be made good tress the revenue of
Oreat Britain. He denied that the judges were una-
nimous la recount:twang the altenetiou made by the
bill, and quoted the opinion of the judges of the Court
of Exchequer, who preferred fees to deed satirist, as
likely to secure mere diligence and *nestles 6a tie
part of the officers in courts of law. Re moved, as an
amendment, that the bill he read a second time this
day six months.
Lord REDEEDALE did not apron of the substi-
tution of fixed salaries for flees mall eiewhirreses• hue
was timid it might lead to a carets* assurdes of
duty on the part of some of the leer *Seep. Se *deb
disliked the provision fee appoleiting only two facers
to tat hills for all the three mart*. He was, however,
convinced that great abases excited with respect to
fees in the Irish court ; and was anxious to see those
corrected. On that aeeuunt he was far from toeing ad-
verse to the principle of the Bill, and should vole for
the second reading.
The Earl of LIMERICK supported the Bill at great
length.
he LORD CHANCELLOR, in reference lit the
question between axed safari.. Mei fees, would, i:t
smite eases, prefer the former, namely. where, the du-
ties of the officer were performed ht a public manner,
sod he felt himself to be acting under the control of
public opinion. When, however, these duties were
performed is offices ant chambers, and as it were in
privacy, he doubted whether that quantum of dili-
gence which was necessary for the interests of suitors
could be as effectually ob tuned by fees as by salaries.
He must be guided in his judgment of the effect of the
Hill on the courts of Ireland by his Noble and Learned
Friend's opinion ; but he must say, with regard to the
provision for appointing two otters to tax costs for
the three courts, that, if it were proposed for the
courts in IVesto.inster-hall, no prsc ice more mis-
chievous could be intr.duced.
The Marquees of LANSDOWN observed, that the
question of salaries or fees might be left to the Com-
mittee. He was for the provision in the Hill, as the
Judges had declared that it was not in their power to
prevent the exaction of exorbitant fees if the present
system were continued. It had been argued that
fees produced greater diligence on the part of offi-
cers than toiletries; but how did this argument apply
to what had happened in Ireland ? Had the aystem of fees
caused attention to the duties to be performed by the
'officers of the courts of that country ? On the colorer!,
hose very persons who had been in the practice of ex-
acting illegal and exorbitant fees had placed a great
part of the property of Ireland in jeopardy by tbeir ne-
gligence; and Parliament had been called upon to ptss
laws to remedy their neglect. If any doubt existed in
his mind on the subject of the measures before the
Hones, it was with regard to the distinction made be-
tween the Court of Chancery and the other Courts; and
on that part of the question he therefore claimed the
right of reserving his opinion. If any additional
charge were thrown on Ireland, as his Noble Friend
had supposed, by this Bill, he would be the first to
oppose it ; but the fact was, that the stamp duties were
payable only by those who would otherwise have had
to pav fees, and it appeared that there would be a sav-
ing perhaps of 40,0001. or 741,11991., but certainly ,a
sere considerable oust to the suitors of the courts.
'I he bar was then cleared, but so division took place,
and the Bill was read a second time.
1 he I .ish Court of Chancery Bill was read a second

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Lord I..ALTIIt HUI; moved that the papers relative to
the Slave 'I mit., lately laid 'Tun the table he printed.—

time.
't he second reading of the Irish Nisi Priva Fees
BM was opposed by the Earl of Dor4OUGUMUNI ; and,
after some discussion between the Noble East and
lord Sipolgouvi, postponed wail to-morrow.
The Earl of DanNi.s.s, at the request of Lord Stn'
MOUTH, postponed his motion respecting the Station-
ery Office in Ireland, to Wednesday the 13th of Jima.
Adjourned.

Agreed to.
coURTS OF LaW IN IRELtND.
Viscount Si I%AIOI-111 rose to mare the second react.
ing of the Irish Courts of Law Bill. In doing this,' he
should hri. fib state that the object of the rueasore was
to correct the abuses which had arisen in the Law t (WI%
Of I relvid, from the prat Lice of exacting fees to au error
emus anomie. During the last few years, these abuses
had attracted the attention of the Compton' noose of
Parliament, who hail voted an Address, praying his Ma-
jesty to appoint Conimissioners,to inquire into the prat•
Ire of exacting fees in Courts of Justice not only in
Ireland, hut also in England and Scotland. Some
doubts had been entertained at the time with respect to
the necessity of such an inquiry in England. and parti-
cularly in Scotland, but that it was requisite in Ireland
had been universally admitted. The respectability and
competency of the Commissioners appointed had never
been impugned. The Noble Earl opposite had himself
admitted that they were eminently well qualified for the
important task entrusted to their Lands. Their Reports
were now on their Lordships' table. Tlicv recoustorta4-,
with respect to the three Courts of King's Bench,
Common Pleas, and Exchequer, the abolition of fees, and
the substitution of limited salaries to the Judges and
the other officers of those Courts. The notoriety of the
abuses alone might be 'efficient to justify audits wee-
sure, but it was besides sanctioned be he authority of
the Judges of the several Courts, with one ecception.
Wilt respect to the salaries. it was proposed to take the
average of seven wears, striking out of that average all
fees exacted within the last ten years, and all those that
bore an illegal character. The amount of the salaries
was to be fixed according to what remained, and this
was to be done by the same Commissioners who had,
conducted the inquiry. There was also another provi-,
'Mtn, which would be satisfactory to all those who had
the humour and interest of the law at heart; it was oar
for appointing two officers for the purpose of t.ixing
costs. Some apprehension had been expressed by the
Noble Earl opposite that the expense of the salaries
would be laid upon the public. Plow the fact was that,
those srlaries would be paid out of the substitation ail
stamp duties to a limited amount, instead of the no-
limited fees which been hitherto received, and in a
proportion highly rabl eto the suitors; and that
no charge whatever would be made on the great
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their Lordships would allow the Bill to go now through
a wood reading.
The Earl of DONOUGH)IORE opposed the motion
at great length. He insisted stronglr upon the ea-
which the salaries and pensions small oscasictu,

--saw—
HOUSE OF COMMONS, Momws, Juss 4.

A person from the Office of the Chief Secretary of
Ireland presented an account of the amount of Customs
received at certain sea-ports of Ireland.
Sir I. COFFIN brought up the Report of the Me-
tropolis Gas-light Bill. The amendments were agreed
to, and the Bill was ordered to be engrossed.
General IIASCOYNE presented a Petition from cer-
tain lercliants of Liverpool tratling. to Canada, com-
plaining of the effects of the 'fitn6er Duties Bill.—
Laid on the table.
The Gallant General presented another Petition from
certain Masters and Joerneymen Rope-makers of
I.iverpool, complaining of great distress, and attribut-
ing it to the introduction of machinery in the Dock-
yards of Liverpoul.—Laid on the table.
Also a Petition from certain Merchants, Banker!,
Ise. of Liverpool against the Bill for the establishint
as Sidra Pust between that town and London.—Laid
es the table.
PUNISHMENT OF FORGERY.
Mr. WILSON presented a Peti:lon from the Bankers
of the City of London and Westminster against the
Bill for altering the pnnislintent of Forgery. They
stated that their objection to this Bill trove out
of their being enable to discover why a distinction
was made between the punishment for forging Bank
Of England Noun and forcing other negotiable se-
carit;-s.
31 r. BUXTON stated it to be the opinion of one of
the persons signing the Petition, that he was by no
means opposed to the policy of ostablishieg the letter
pusiehnsent is both cases.
Mr. DIVIT stated his oilitties to -be felinity
against the insidious distinction made by thhi.lBlo,
Wiens We crime of Forgery is tie two collet,.
qtr_ Hz IDAVI3 stabled that it mat his istoottos to
Vote she Bill in every stage. •
31r. RICARDO said tha'gronnil of the distinction in
thews, eaves was. that to oat haftwitok-the instriinient
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