The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-04-28 00:00:00

THE STAI :

sure would
..not • iniere the, cyttott.iFectories, and
therefore he would support it. The Hnese was
called en to legislate ;on two .tantiible petals...the
ages of the persons employed, and the boars em-
Cloyment. He agreed in the utility of employing
hildren, but vivid not. egree that it was proper t•
employ leftists for a longer time each _day than was
req.,ired from adults in the most wholesome occo.
pa tions.
Mr. FlNLAY.opposed the Bill, and niaintained
that it would not have the effect which was intended
by the Moser. Instead of operating as a relief to
he childretremployed in factories, it .would drive
theist to other permits morelabortous and unhealthy.
The only. Petition from Scotland came, he observed,
from Mr. Owen's manufacturers, whose working
hours had been reduced to ten hours and-s-half
a-day. They 'were naturally anxious that the
same regulation should become general. It was to
be recollected, however, that it was by the labour of
oar People we were enabled to go n ith such atlean.
tars into the •foreign market ; and we should be
careful, lest by legislating upon impressions and feel-
togs, we should endanger the interests of the coun-
try in so important a matter.
Mr..J. SMITH spoke in favour of the Bill, and
stated that the diminution of working hours was at-
tended with no disadvantage in the establishment of
Met Owen at Lsnark, where the peoi.le did as much
in ten hours and-a-half as was dune by any other
factory in fifteen.

Mr: FINLAY explained.
Mr. ROBINSON had no apprehension that the
Bill wriold be injurious to the particular trade, and
feared only its extension to other trades. lie should
object generally to the interference of Parliament,
hut in this instance, he thought, tnat even by the
admi4sion, a sufficient ell4e was made oat.

Lord STANLEY attempted to address the House.
hot its impatience prevented hint from twine heirtl; a
division wits then called for, and the Gallery was
cleared aceordiugly. The numbers were—
For the Amendment 26 I APIII,II it 91
When we were re-admitted to the Gallery, we
found the House in a Committee on the Bile, and
Mr. FINLAY protesting against proceeding at this
late hour ; he moved that th • Chairman should re-
port progress, and ask leave to sit again.
After a con►ersation of con•i.'erable length, in
which Mr. Lambton, Sir F. Barden, Mr. Peel, Lord
Stants7, Cir. J. Macintosh, and Mr. Lenin, took a
share, it was agreed ►hat the Chairnan should report
progress, and that the Bill should be re-committed this
day.
Sir ROBERT PEEL observed, that having given
way once or twice to the opponents of the measare,
he hoped that upon the present understanding no ob-
jection would be made. on the renewal of the discus-
sion, to the Speaker's leaving the Chair.
The Labourers' Wages Bill was rend a second time,
and ordered to be conattitted no Wednesday.
The Report of the Saving 13.stoks Amendment Bill
was received, and the Bill ordered to be re-committed
this day se'nnight.
Upon the motion for the second reading of the
Loa.l Bill,

Mr. GRENFELL observed, that there west chute
in this Bill, of which he believed few who heard him
were aware—namely, that upon the mere deposit of
three per cent. stock towards the new Loin, the
Bank were to receive t;1001. fur etch and
upon the deposit of Exchequer Bills 4001. pe► m►l-
lion. This was an esureineance of remoner lion for
whet could scarcely be called a 'rouble, gale
notice of his intention to oppose mom decidedly in
the Committee, the adoption of a clause so incooti•t.
cut with public justice and squity.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, this clause was so materially interwoven wish
the Bill, that he felt it hit duty to support it.
NEW LOAN.

Mr. GRENFELL asked the Chancellor of the
Exchequer whether it was intended that thaw, who
subscribed towards the new Loan should be at liberty
to fund the whole of their subscription, or only a
part, as it suited their inclination ?
The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER
veplied, that it would he at the option of the sub-
scribers to fund the whole or any part of their sub-
scription.

Mr. GRENFELL said, that a great deal of agi-
tation Ind this day been created among the monied
interest in the City, by such conduct on the part of
the Bank, as appeared likely- to interfere very much
with the Right Iloootirahle Gentleman's new plait,
for the Officers of the Bilk had declared, that of the
lb'. three per cents. which were to be lodged to-
morrow, they would not accept any deposit, but in
the names of the subscriber- themselves. Now as it
happened that many subscrihers held stock in the
names of their Bankers, while others were out of
town, great inconvenience was likely to result from
this regnlation ; which, iodee.l, if enforced, must
render several unable to make good their deposits.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said it was true that a Gentleman from the City had,
just before he came to the House, complained to
him of the regulation alluded to by the lionourahle
Gentleman. The Officers of the Batik were cer.
taiuly correct in refusing to accept a deposit of stock
from any but the subscriber himself, or some one
acting for him under a power of attorney. But the
inconvenience apprehended by the Rouourable Gen.
demon, he would endeavour to remedy by the intro-
duction of a clause into the Loan Bill Meantime he
calculated that the progress of the subscription would
not be impeded by what, after all, although correct
in its motive, was but a mere matter of form.
The Bill was read a second time, aad committed
for this day.
The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and
the House adjourned at hell after One o'Clock.

Scots EcoNosty.-I'he Bill respecting the Once
of Lord Justice General of Scotland is now prioted,
from which it appears, that Ministers have no inten-
tion of abolishing this acknowledged sinecure; but
that, on the death of the Duke of Montrose, the pre-
sent possessor, who is to receive the fell salary of
20001. a-year during his life, it is to be given to the
Lord President of the Court of Session, for the time
r being, with the diminished &story of 10001. The
income of the Lord Prerjdent will. thee amount to
56001. per annum, which is 10001.. a-year more than
the salary of the Chief Justice of England, who has
also to Faisal the laborious duty of the Circuits...

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APPE44.Ia, of Dli ttiti E
tlovu .bift oft -
JAMES O'REILLY. BROTUER 01111:0 HEIR AT paw OF
BRYAN OIREILLY, ESQ .DYCEttlfp,
MAPIPICLL,ART—
THOAS CLANCUY, ,
DEFENDANT- I•
Thursday, at the 4itting the Court rifilEihes
Bench, the Defendant was called up for jatrigmevit ;
the Appellant appeared in ;Arson. )-:
The CRI.EY JUITICE stated the .Declaration and
Appeal, an Fl the plea of the Defendant, that he was
Not Guilty, and theil he would pro -e the same by
his body. To dist ()let the Appellant has put in
a counter-plea. of an indictment found for th:, PRIMP
offence; and no doubt according to the authorities
in Stamford, Hawkins, and 4141e-1-such plea, if
properly pleaded, is a good bar to the weer of
Wale!. The question is, whether it has been pro-
perly pleaded in this instance. Many excepkions
have been taken to that counter-plea—but theie is
one which has struck the Court, and which has not
been adverted to by Counsel on either side. I do
not mean, observed his Lordship, to say what weight
it may have, but we do not think it would he proper
to decide upoo it either way without giving Coun-
sel on both ;Ides on opportunity of considering it.—
Aticording to the precedent in Rasta!, the Appellant,
after. sting the fact of an indictment being found,
prays a writ of Certiorari, directed to the Clerk of
the Peace, :o bring up the indictment. That indict.
ment his accordingly been brought op and put upon
the reri.td, before demurrer, filed with proper aver-
mett.s its to identity of persons and crime, hut it
Inerels says that the indictment and presentment was
" fund and made" by 46 good and lawful men" of
the county of W...meath, sworn, &c.; and doe, not
set forth OF names of the Grand Jurors who (no 1,(1
the' ill. F nn various authorities,which his Lordship
cmti -..4d, it does not appear necessary to mention
the names of the Grand Jurors; but it should ap-
pear that the bill of indictment was found at least
by twelve men. Now, whether the word Grand
July, ex ri termini signifies at least twelve men, is a
question which we would wish to be argued without
at present (ourselves) declaring an opinion either
way, or on the topics already urged. Counsel for
the Appellant will also consider whether, if the same
be erroneous for want of mentioning that the indict.
meat was found by twelve men at least, the record
can be amended in such instinct., and will make such
application for that purpose as he may think proper.
In the mean time the Prisoner must be remanded.

Mr. At.t.rx —My Lnrd, I feel the force of what
your Lordship hos said, and humbly think the matter
well deserves an argument. There are cases in ap=
peal were amendments hove been permitted, and if
auy nmendment could he made in any case, I con•
ceive tl.is is that ease—because the Returning Officer
shnul'l have mentioned those names. The omiggion, if
at all material, is the act of the Officer and not of
Counsel, and there is *notching to amend by.
Mr. M'NALLY.--This is a criminal case, and I
can consent to amendment. If I did, I must with.
drew the demurre►.

ThP COURT.— thivP you any objection to eongeni
that the Prittener be remanded until the second day of
nest Term ?

Mr. M•NALLY—I have already aaifl I can can.
spt,t t•• ntoh;,,,—for and l think I can
prove, 'hat there have bean already three disconti-
nuance:.

Mr. ALLEN—The rerord, as mode up, will show
whether "r not such diser,nrinualtre has taken place.
The Court have declared that they will not at present
give judg.nent, 4.0, at my own peril, I more the
Court that the P,i‘t/ner may be remarrarrd until the
',proud day of neat Term, that the Court may fur-
'her rooro,ler the case before they pronounce judg-
men , and that I may have an orportunity of consi-
dering the points which the Court has been pleased
to I.ag,test.

hfoiion granted, and the Prisoner accordingly re.
minded.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.

COURT OF KING'S BENCH, APRIL 27.
THE JUNO r FRANCIS GORE, VSQ.

Mr. Serjei.nt COPLEY espressed itisrearet that in this
cas• the Prosecutor, Dr. Thorpe, had not been able
to come to any understanding with the Defendant,
Dr. Thorpe insisting that General Core should sign
tie name to a paper, stating that he did not believe
any of the cliree4 in the libel to be true: to thi.
proposal General Gore could not assent; he did not
wish to re.assett what was stated in the libel, but to
remain neuter.

Mr SC IIILETT obaerved, that the cue on a pre.
sinus day had stood over, in orsler that Get,. Gore
might declare that he hid had no concern in the cir-
culation of the pamphlet in question, excepting as far
as was sworn 1/POll the trial.

Mr. Seripaht CAPLET replied, that the condition
tie had mentioned hail been superadded in a paper
olTered to General Gore, and he was consequently
under the necessity of applying for tht, judcraent of
the Court upon the motion he made on Saturday
week for a new trial, on the ground that the commu-
nication by General Gore to Mr. Serjentit Firth (the
publication alleged in the indictment) was privileged
and official, Serjearit Firth being at that time Attor-
ney-General of Canada.
Lord ELLENE.IROUGH said, that under the circom-
strticel, it might be expedient to grant a rule Nisi for
a new trial.