The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-02-19 00:00:00

sru sire it mast be abaedesed. If any maa,casse •I
that Hens* AO sold be mild sot get a mmanersti
price for 114:oommoditles. he was sere the Hoses mist
shut the gape ',pea him. He could not see what bene-
fit farmers were likely to derive from the emelt tic
proposed to be taken from a particular predigest. If
the tax was taken off agrioultural produce, the benefit
would be to the canvassers. who were aready
with taxes; and that was a reason why taxes ought to
be lowered generally, and why expenditure slight to
be diminished by every possible means. Taxation was
a general evil upon all people ; and it could opt be
paid that an tax should be lowered for the sake of any
particalse class of persons ; for every tax affected all •
descriptiom of persons equally alike. He felt was
impossible that England could go on with an ;across-
' leg population, and eve op the idea of importing food
from other cowries. If the Bank Directors had well
understood the principle of currency. they might
always hatiOept every thing in a wholesome state.
At the time the landowners raised their rents, they ea.
.0,0, a benefit certainly much greater titan the fent.
holders ;, hat then they had experienced very gee
losses ea account of the alteration in the correecy,
and, op the whole, were rather losers than otherwise.
Mr. BENETT explained.
Mr. MANNING spoke is a low tone, and from under
the gallery, and he was therefore very imperfectly
beard, is the gallery. He defended the coodact of
the Batik. To restore the currency, that Conspary
bad exerted themselves most sincerely; in furtherance
of that:object there had been large levies of gold.—
Some bed supposed that the Bank had contributed to
the dinsinatioa of the quantity of money in circulation;
but if Hot. Members turned to the Appendix of the
Report of 1819, they would find that the amount Ikea
oat was 25,000,5001. By reference to receat
they would learn that there were notes in circulation
to site mamma of 18,000,000 i. besides the large issllleS
of gold ; there was, in fact, now ix circulation one
millietsrare than at the time of the pairsiog of Mr.
Peel's Bill. The Hop. Member next adverted to Ilse
distressed state of agriculture. He rue understood to
attribute part of the farmers' dideelties to the with-
drawitag of that support which they bad been accus-
tomed to derive from the conetry bankers. They
coast set extend the customary accommodations,
twin to the fluctuating prices of coo; thus, io llKM-
ssesence of the low prices, and the ablenee of colony
beak aceonsmodatione, the farmers had final ditbeae
ties is being prepared with their rents.
Mt. SYKES thought the question before the house,
was whether the Agricolteral Committee shoal(' be re,
appointed; and when he heard that the effect of shelf
first labours was only to mystify, be certaiely Active
vote against their cootiounace, as be should look fir
teething else but a renewed mystlficatioe in their et--
sewed labours. He was happy to hear the oploioas of
the Hoe. Member fur Suffolk (Mr. Hooch), toed eh is
of arethir Mos. Member, and be feasted that berate
shaded of the :present Bonk' thug IsfiliWliate
speed their tyre, and Wald -iiiiitivieSV:thet it wile
the/Orme that bed been se !eaglet-int by thiheivahWf
which bad caused the present discreet: Fie could Wet
see with the Hon, Member for Yorkshire, any goitre!
of satisfaction io the statement of the Noble Marqitei's
That Noble Marquess had held out the hope of as et
eess of five millions of income beyond the expenift-
ditare; but this bad been held out ever and over netts
by the Chancellor of the Becheqeer, and every Moot
bad turned out to be a delusion. Another soorint'of
thatisfaetion to the Hon. Member for Yorkshire was
the contemplated rise upon stock. To be sere, if flat
Nee. Member were advocating the cause of the stoelD
balder this might be very satisfactory ; hot he (Nir./
S.) could not see how a rise irr the price of stoeV.
;would put bread into the months of the starving lA7
bearer*, or rent into the pockets of. he had al•mitt
said, the starving landholders. Yet, es he laid agile
all party fi,eling on this important subject, he won
admit that there were some passages in the sta•e-
meal eif the Noble Marquess which had his ent;.e
concurrence. He (Mr. Sykes) agreed that the e
should be a surplus, whatever might be its name
He did•hot approie of what was calla the Sinkii
Fend, but *hatever the thing might be called,
wished to see a surplus of revenue beyond expenditure.
He thought also with the Noble Marquess that roach f
the d istrers was attributable toe superabnr of pro.

.andante of pro _
&smelt bet he did not admire the proposed remedy. nit
burthens must be lightened, soffit would not be stidff:
ciest for us to wait fur the chance of relief. When
be considered the vote in favour of retrenchment, ti
wide% the House had come lase Session, lie could neY
but feel surprise when he found that •all which was`
Ipeoperied to be dose, was to take off one shilling per,
Beebe! of the tax upon malt; to lend to parishes through'
11116 medium- of Exchequer Bills ; and he was sorpriseld
tbat'any man, pretending to be a Statesman, shtittll
litiatach the latter plan to an English House of Corti7
issimas. The effect of it would be to repeal Mr. Peei's:
Bill, by making a fresh issue of paper ; and it was *tits
thy of remark, that the btarrewets of t his pa pet would be
liable to all the laws of extent ; the sedate of properti,
sad the imprisonment orperson, with the benefit of the
insolvent or the bankrtipt laws. !lips was the relief
which was proposed for the Conakry Oentleilien
These were the risers which met with Oaf unqualified
neeent of the Member for Toticshire! In his (Mr.
Sykes's) opinion, the only possible relief was to he
found in the reduction of tuella:1; is a reduction of
the expenses in the Army and Nairy, the Ordnance
and the Civil Establishments. The itopriety of such
a redaction had been clearlg shown by the Member for
Aberdeen ; and although.be (hifir.'3.) did nut ask th it
the expenses should be reduced hot the scale of 1792,
lie did ask that they should hear a proporti.in to tt at
period, which at present they did not. 'Fist Noble
Marquess had said onja former %lest' that a ;tan lini•
army wan sweetest.' 4to secure' the libfitiei of INV
country. Now he (Mr. S.) bad heard from siniiithlY
the liberty of the Presn wits neeesseiy to securetCfsti
libertieh. From others/ be had !mate that' thet, west;
b,st secured to the due adosittistrafittiwOjlt..tide
and be bad heard otney other sifeguirdi Biggesthd ;
butt be never heard:the thought be netei
heard from any one, aid still 114 fitiui" a .111Aqtei,
that the liberties. of Engllghtiten !SIM besktf/Atsy a
*tending army: Then tte'lleard dna n opirifiinle,im
such is quarter, isktould not look fx hitch redaction