The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-05-07 00:00:00

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Sir I;E6RGE HILL could not see how the conduct
of the (hand Jury had anc thing to do hills the bncu,
diate subject of inquiry before the House.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR observed that the object of the
inquiry was to know whether the Sheriff had pc:i*d U.
Jury; and was it not necessary to be inforu►ed bon. 0:4
Jury behaved?

The witness was again called in and examined by M.
IVILLIASIS.—He repeated that he bad been before tt..
Grand Jury. There he was examined as to what he had
heard at the tavern. At the time he came before the
Grand Jury lie knew the names of all the persons he I,Ad
seen at the tavern. though not before. He was examit
ed by several of the Jurors fur abont a quarter of ar
hour. After undergoing an examination 11,17 to!d
ness they had done with him. He had nut stated the
whole case that hail occurred at the tavern : the reason
he did not state all wal, that before his answer to any
question was delivered.. he was interrupted by a fresh.
interrogation. In relsting toe transaction thut hail or-
caned, be was desired not to state the name of any ptir-
son whom he did not know the night the transaction
oecnrred: he was told so by two of theJuro-s.
them that although he did not know their names the
night he raw them at the Wars, liat bad learned, snot
known their names afterwards. Whim at thwravern the
names of some of them were mentioned to bias.

Witness mentioned to the Jury that he could identify
the person. but was told to say nothing of any one tish
he did not know of Lis own knowledge.
Witness was ordered to withdraw.
Mr. P. MtK)ftE rose to mere the adjnornment cf*
the Douse, it being then past eleven o'clock, but tie
general fe4tng of the House being in favour of a Coll4^-
nration of the examination, another witness was ca,..
ed in.

Mr. George Farley examined by Mr. WI I.LIAMS.—
Witness is en attorney, residing in Dublin: he tvss *f-
amine(' before the Grand Jury on the subject of the al-
leged riot; lie was examined touchin a ednieredion
which he heard on the evening of the g
riot, at Ylaini.
can's tavern, Essex-street; he stated -on that °evasion
that he had seen at the tavern Mr. Fisher, Graham, sat
several others.

Mr. GOULBURN sugghted that it would be bent;
not to enter in detail intu the evidence given by mil
witness, but merely what passed between him and the
Grand Jury.
Mr. WILLIAMS said he had determined to shape the
ruminations in that way, and merely asked a few pre-
liminary questions, for the purpose of briaging before
the witness's mind the points upon which be was to be
examined.

The examination proceeded.
Witness named several persons before the Grand Jun,
&shaving been seen by him at the tavern; lie also rat-et,
that there was another person sitting in a box, trance
name he did not at the time know ; Jury told him not, to
say any thing, except what he knew of his own know-
ledge; he said be had understood the name of this per-
son was Forbes; he was again told not foray any thicg
which hedid not know of his own knowledgs ; witress
stated that he distinctly knew the person of the nr4'l,
whose name he understood to be Forbes; he also aid
that he saw this man in the Court on the day he was ex-
amined, and his name was repeated to him as being that •
of Forbes; but the Grand Jury again desired him to
say nothing except what he knew of his owe knowledge;
witness repeated the substance which he had heard at the
to to the Jury; he was freqrently interrupted br
some of the Grand Jury ; but principally by the foremao,
who toM him-twice not to mention the name of any ene
whom he did not know of his own knowledge; witness,
hcovever, Ira/ suffered to state the conversation ; a Juror
desired that he might be heard, and he proceeded ; when
he had finished his evidence he left the room.

By Colonel BARRY.—Witness was suffered to stall
every fact *at came within bis knowledge; bat he•ilia
not feel himself at ease in consequence of the interrue
lion.
By Mr. PLUNK ETT.—Wia ess stated to the diary 0*
he knew the person of Forbes. lYitnest can't rsaky
say if Lis evidence was received as against Forbes 0
against a person unknown.

By Volonel BA RRY.—Witaese gave his informatiett
respecting Forbes as of a person whose name he did not
know. ..
By Mr. BROWNLOW.—Witness knows a person 9f
the name of Brocas; he w..s summoned it r the part of the
traversers, and examined on the trial;• has had converts- •
lions is ith hint on the subject of the trial. Witness might
have said, to Brous, " I aria surprised you are running se
high against the Attorney-a-metal—it would he • better
for you Not tad* so." or sonaetbiug to that effect. lie
might have told Dermas that he was snaking himself 14;
brety. Witness nositively denies baying ever said to
him—" Brocas, it would be better for you to follow RI
example. I get three gain-as a-day." He is perfectly
astonished that such a thing could. be supposed to hi said
by him.
By Sir J. llTEWART.—Witness's evidence before the
Greed Jury and the Petit Jury on the trial was in sae-
stance the same. He was not at all embarrassed before
the Petit Jury. The traversers were nut convicted.
By Mr. PLUNKETT.—Thee. traverser; were not aes
quitted.
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By Mr. WI lAA AMS.—Wilkhdf tet did not receive
three guineas a-day. Witness...hes. had a converratioa
with Brous. He charged Ilrocas with teking too actim
a part in the business ; he told him he ought not to vo-
lunteer himself so far. Witness heard Brocas say, that
hicould•pstove that the bottle was not thrown w de-
person who was charged with it. He wailnduced to say
what be did to Brow, breause there were so many per-
sons whose testimony was against hint. He. beard bin
say and unsay ditkrent things.
Wituess, in answer to -some qnestiona put by Mr.
Brougham, explained that Braces said 'what two oilier
persons bad unsaid—nut that Brocas had unsaid sty
thing. In answer to questions put by Jr. M. A. Taylor,
and Mr. Denman, witness farther stated that he had base
before a Grand Jury before, and there was a striking
difference between the reception he met with front that
Jury, and the Urand Jury now in question. He had es
objection to Brocas coming forward as a witness, but lie
thought that he was ovrr•busy. Witness was surprised
that he should say the bottle was not thrown by there
son charged with it. • -
By Mr. W I [ZIA NlS.—Wituess withdrew front tha
Jury-room of his own accord. He was shown a ids
door by a Juryman. It was usnal for the junior Igor
to attend the door. lie was certainly not tarried ntt.—
The Juryman Aimed bitn to the door rather jelligil•
By Colonel BARlLY.—Witness gave inforiblielt at
the Police•tiffice before Alderman Dooley, all( brio"
the Attornertleneral and Solicit,r-Genersil, end ikrk of
the Crown. In his information ha mentioned nu not
of Forbes.

The Witness was then ordeied I withdraw.
Mr. BROLIGH ANI said, that if the Hon.Meolrr for Ca-
ventry looked at the clunk, he would see thaaour of 54*
journm-nt had arrived.
Mt. P. MOORE said he heartily joinod it the desire
• •
fur asijon rnment.
The House then resumed, and the Chairtan
leave to sit again to-morrow.
Mr. SCARLETT obtained leave to brie in a Pill to
extend the Jurisdiction of County Gaols 0 the Contd.

Palatine of Lancaster.
The other Orders of the, Div ►vere nen ri!, and
the. House adjourned at half-past Twee O'cloet, 10
this day.