The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-06-29 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

orb,. Report or the l oluinitree of Clpidy having
been b:ougbt op, on tine 'notion thrt it sleou.il be
read,
Mr. C.II,CIIIFT rose to frer some oh,e,-‘,iti..n• on
the Rep.irt. Ili! behove I c 2 ,e-.,10
tinny. Ile title ro.olutio.i which wry
itillollt for ttit -hr.t. Ile knew Moq to seiflie
enure, but tit ii_7l.t he could Dot du better th,,u op-
pose the Iteport al::inether, unless tiir Illinnur-
able lielitlem in would eongent to nirlailraw that reel

lution. lie i.new n better way of making terins
the Kitt Ilan. Gentleman. and zi,inz stone elrect to
Otos• pr,,fes-ions of anxiety fur reununty it hick had
been made by the House in the list mil present Ses-
sions. He called on those who wished to l'Av:ltir the
eaw‘e of retrenchment to suppurt hits la tie I,re‘unt
case, anal save the couottv the .art of 2tysti:li. Ile
then neat over the ease of Gen. Ile‘lonrneatix, which
had been rept atetlly laid bef.re the
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 411::.
i'es tett C•at the convenient cours.• would he r.
read the resolution which it was the object of the Hun.
iietitlrmati to throw out tirst.
/The resolution in question was accordin;!y read I.
the Clerk.

.Ir. AFT returned. He contended the
claim of lien. lte..fourneaux hall not been saOsfacto-
rily made on:- The resnit of a tormer i•ninky h... I
been unfay.ortiole to the pretensions 4.f t!,e Grnentl.
the two Lord.. of the Treaaarr who litnl ntteniteti thr
•Iter ret.rtl!ty engaged on this so*.je.:!, were not
In their plarri when It last came lbefor • the Iftrise.—
' If they were pr..seot he hail reason to believe that hie
hare their rotes. One of them had just ewe, e I.
and he hoped he should hare his rote. The itoaral of
Treasnrl-.had denied that his claims were well founded,
but had been willing to give lieneral Desfourneaux
fourteen or tifteea hundred pounds in colasideration of
the care that lie had taken of the firiti,l t.izit at clan.
dabs:eye. lie (Mr. C.) was content to allow hint a
grant to that amount, not that he thottg:.t hint enti-
tled to butt he was willing to err on the side of li•
berality. lie considered it eery singular that in this
day of econouly that a Committee of that iloase shoul.i
hare decided on collateral infortustion o'•tained
in 1.4v0;:r ~f the prn7ose.l grant of ienera I
a.) ufter th-! sif :je c:r

ensovtance• on 'menet of which it was claimed. fle
would not months. the reports which were abroad, bet
it was singular that a French Banker of eminence
should interest himself in the case as he bad done.
writing to Members of Parliament in behalf of the
claimant, and even canvassing in person for him. This
in cenneetiee with the decision of the Committee of
Arbitration, struck him as being very curious, now
that dietitians was brought forward twenty-four feats
after the contract said to Imre been entered into must
have been made. What collateral evidence could now
have been obtained ? The subject, toe, was now
brought forward after the death of Sir Charles Orel,
who had not been proved ever to have entered into
any agreement on the subject. No written agreement
was in axis enee, no voucher produced, and no parole
agreement had been proved, and be mast therefore up-
pose the gran'. .
Mr. T. WILSON was aware that no Board ought
to pass accounts without vouchers ; but because these
accounts were not supported by vouchers, it Mil Mn.;
fair to run down the parties and throw out insinuations
injurious to character. The Honourable Gentleman
proceeded to she,' the nature of the collateral evidence
,Olio-1i had been obtained by the Committee.
He also referred to the last Report of the Commis-
sioners of Control, which he contended was decidedly
in lamer of granting the claim. Ile would ask the
lionourabl? Gentleman for wiAt he considered the
1,1110/. due which he seemed disposed to allow. It
must be for the only hospital which was not Ivent,
because the papers relative to that were saved awl
produced. The papers of the other establishment
were burnt or destroyed at the time of the capture of
the island. The Honourable Member then referred
to various documents and to the opinions of Jitferent
(Officers and Alcolical Gentle-nen. as to the value of the
services rendered by General Desfournreux to this
country. Ile should vote for the grant, because he
cencrived that in so ,leing, he s'iottl,l be doing justi,
and ilisehargi•ig his ditty to all parties as an litsot,st man.
\lr. W it F. said th it the more he cons:dere 1
this subject the more he was con% incest that it ion'ot
to be treated according to the manner recommend,- I
by the Ilan. Member fur Wareham.
Mr. tilt EN FELL moved as an anienolment to tf.t.
Resolution thAt the sum of 3.5011/. should he
tested fur the original sum propose'', that brim( tins
eLtitos allowed by tim? Treasury, with time interest
upon it.

Mr. 11. SUMNER slid that be slid not ame watts
his Hon. Frieuil, the Member fur London, that toe
honour of the nation was at stake upon the granti!,.:
of this claim. On the contrary he thought they ou:!:t
to relieve the country from that with which it h I
hers frequently stigmatised, namely, a too Jorge pr-
tiun
Mr. W. PEEL stated his intention of voting for
the larger grant.

Mr. U. iiCHNEV thonght the matter oaght to be
referred to another 47outtnittee.

Mr. R. DOIAILAS defended the conduct of the
Committee appointed to inquire into the merits of !.!e
claim. Ile tilourlit that the llonaurable tirptle‘,.l.l
.apposite were 11.14110.r.i to tit rhar,zes upon that I
11111 er by implica!ion, to It hich these proceeding. As re
toy no Itie4ll% entitled.

Ale. It. PEEL hail r•rtneil impartia;: e
upon the prpers whirls were Ic•;.t r vie Douse, and I:e
1,4.1 rouse t.s the cunclu,itin that :he rlaiass of lint.
IN .f.,u -neanx were rsiaspletelv usif,uts,:esl. Ile slows'. I
regret extremely that %w it a elisim slam' 111 he admitted
on the gromd of the inability to make such allsow-
suers from the puiplie money, vet hr sit uld still mars:
lament it, Is rs!stoli,lsiutr a precctlent of a must .lan-
z•rous desrrivion.--(:lvar.)
11r. M A NSFI ELI/ expressed his intention of Toting
• the Amendment.

ties MONUK siiprorted the larcer grant upon ose
principles of justice, although he was at all times in
•lasioir of the snost rigid economy.
lir. iItVING entered into an explanation of the
whirl, the Committee had taken of the case, an 1
.trfeitiled the conclusion at iyhich they arrived of re-
co unending the granting oldie claims. His ears ha.l
been assailed at the door of that House and elsewhere.
with taunt And iiliservaions that this business W 491 a
job. lie treated those wilds with indifference, be-
cati.e he bail o dv been actuated by a sincere desi.-e of
doing justice. lie had fir.t undertaken the in.inare-
uncut of the ease from motives .of compassion : still
when all the documents were laid before hint, die was
114 lly conyi.ieed that General Desfearneaux was en-
titi•-.1 to every thing which he claimed. To whatever
deci,.i.in the House should .iine, he should bow with
respect. lint at the same tune he felt that the ho-
noor of the nation trou4l lie sullied by a refusal of
any pert of the sum claimed.
Lord BINNING coneorred in the sentiments ca-
p!. 'sea 'iy ii;' Friend, the Member for Oxfori,
it!' regard to the. u,crit. oldie claim before the House.
!le flamed, h.iirever, that there was :mother article,
the Hoot. by the strea.nry. upon
which the cl.OLis wined to be well founded. lie
therefore b?pril that the Hon. Member would alter his
amendment by slaking the sum :1,0094
CitzilNlit OHNE sail, that lie had examined
.he subject More tho House, nn.ler st ong suspit
that all was oat right. lie vas now the more c•m-
vioced of it, a:nl shoild oppose the Resolution.
The CHANCIWAIIt of the EXCIIEQI'IIiR saes!,
that the treasury had only a:!..weil the sum of !Jots:.
'weans'. that was tie!! only dein' for which vouchers
were produced. The Woge would, however, act upon
the other evidence now before it. Every 31einher must
vote according to his ira n views of the :ttstice of the
claims. For hilaseff. as a Meinher of the Government,
Ise fe t bound by the derision of the Committee to w:tivls
the whole matter had been referred.

Sir F. OMMANN EY s‘id a few words against the
Item,lut:on.

The House then tlirliletl--For the original Rep,
6.—Againt it, 53.---Majority :Igaisq it, 47
Upnu our re-ailmitsion to the g4l'erf Mr. T.
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