The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-06-03 00:00:00

DOCK COMMITTEE

peared—

The proceedings of the Dock Committee having been read,
Mr. BIRKETT asked whether any alterations had been
made as to the size and construction of the dock warehouses ?
Mr. SANDS replied in the negative, with a view to give
greater space for the loading of carts, there would be less
space for the warehouses ; but nothing contrary to the act
had been attempted.
After some further conversation, the proceedings were
confirmed.

THE HAY MARKETS.
The TOWN-CLERK read the report of the Joint Finance,
and Market Committees as to the Haymarkets. It was as
follows :

" Report of the Finance and Market Committees on the re-
ference of the Council of the 6th May, viz. That as
the South Haymarket is not resorted to by the public, the
whole question of the Hayrnarkets be referred to the Fi-
nance and Market Committees for their consideration and
report.'".

" The joint Committee of the Markets and the Finance
having taken into consideration the above reference from the
Council, have to report—

That before they can recommend to the Council either
on the one hand to abstain from all change or interference
with the existing markets, or, on tother, to seek some
t
central situation in their stead,
it is,
expe-
dient and desirable to make some further in their opinion,
trial as to the pos-
sibility of maintaining a haymarket at the south end of the
town, in conjunction with the market established in Great
H orn er- street.
" Under the influence of this opinion, they recommend to
i
the Council to sanction a temporary market n St. James'-
to that
road, at the south "end, which, there is ever reason to be-
lieve, would afford considerable accommodation
neighbourhood; and that the joint committee be requested
hereafter to report the result of this experiment."
Upon the motion of Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE, the report
was adopted.
NORTHERN MECHANICS INSTITUTION.
The MAYOR read a memorial from the Directors of the
Northern Mechanics' Institution. They stated that they
had occupied the North Corporation School as a Mechanics'
Institution—that they had gas there for a considerable period
free of charge, but that an account had recently been pre-
sented to them requiring payment of £35 for They
supposed that the gas had been gratuitously given them, no
charge having been previously made, and if payment of the
bill were enforced, they said it would occasion a serious de-
duction from their funds.
Mr. PARKER believed that when the Council granted them
the use of the school, it was with the clear understanding
they should pay for the gas.
Mr. AWN moved that the memorial be referred to the

Finance Committee. --- -
The TOWN-CLERK referred to the books, and said that
they were given the use of the school on the condition that
they paid all expenses.
Mr. Coorua said the fact of the gas not having been here-
tofore paid for, showed that the radical corporation had not
been over careful of the corporate funds.

Mr. EARLE said the wish of the late corporation had been
to throw a little light on ignorant minds, and reclaim them
from the paths of vice. He hoped the council would pay
the bill this time, and make a new arrangement for the fu-
ture.

Mr. SANDBACH said the bills for gas at the school used
always to come before the Finance Committee of the late
corporation, and that Sir Joshua Walmsley used always to
take them, and say, " I'll see them paid." (Hear, hear.)
Mr. EARLE asked whether the council had the power of
recovering the debt? _

Mr. E-;;ANs had no idea of getting rid of it by a sidewind.
He considered that Mr. Sandbach ought to apply to the
person (Sir Joshua Walmsley) who had given the guarantee,
and who had unquestionably incurred the obligation.
Mr. SANDBACH said it seemed to have been an understood
part of the bargain when Sir Joshua took the bills and said
he would see them paid.
Mr. LLOYD said the present discussion had brought a cer-
tain matter to light with regard to Sir Joshua Walmsley, of
which the public would hay e been otherwise ignorant.
Mr. HODGSON thought that the moral instruction of some
people must be at a low level when one asked whether they
could enforce it legally, and another why a third party was
not held responsible, instead of trying to enforce it from
those with whom they had been dealing, and who would not
acknowledge and pay a just debt. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. EARLE said he had asked the question as a matter of
curiosity. He hoped his morality was as good as Mr. Hodg-

son's.
Mr. JORDAN thought that Mr. Sandbach ought to have
interfered before the present time with a view to payment.
Mr. SANDBACII said he had concluded that the money
had been paid, as promised, by Sir Joshua Walmsley. How
was he to know that Sir Joshua had not done so?
Mr. BIRKETT moved as an amendment that the necessary
application for the money be immediately made.
The council divided on the amendment, when there ap-

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For it 32
Against it
The amendment was consequently carried. The following
members voted in the division :

For—Messrs. Shaw, Hodgson, Isaac Holmes, R. Hough-
ton, Sandbach, Copeland, Sands, Rae, Aspinall, -Yates,
Robinson, Cooper, Wood, Birkett, Gladstone, Bushell,
Lloyd, Rigby, Kilshaw, Parker, Jones, jun., Brassey, G.
H. Lawrence, blather, Harbord, Evans, Griffith, Turner,
Bramley-Moore, Molyneux, Crook, and the Mayor.
Against—Messrs. Thornhill, Preston, H. Holmes, J.
Holmes, Bolton, Aikin, Bright, Priestley, J. Smith, Jordan,
Platt, and Earle.