The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-08-21 00:00:00

tier ; he seemed as tat? sensible of what he was saving as
any other man in the room. I tt-iitlt see him since until
Saturday in the prison. The cleaver was blunt, but still it
cot. Ido not believe it received any preparatory sharpen-
ing for use at the time.
Mr. Horrocks eross•evamined by the pi-leaner—You hant
eild the Jury, Mr. Horrocks, that after I struck you I said
44 I will kill.yoo ?"—I have ainwered•that already.
Prisoner—After I struck yon, did I not first look at your
head, and then throw my eyes upon the ground ?—tTlte
pnsoner gave here a motion of his head, to. convey to the
witatess and the Court the exact manner that he assumed
after the attack.]
Mr. llorrocks—lVlten the prisoner rose, after attempting
to regain the cleaver, hr then looked at me, as well as 1
can now recollect, and tutned round, as 1 thought, looking
for another weapon ; net finding it, he ran away.
' Prison•r—Aft-r I struck you, and that the weapon fell
from me, you saw me clove, deuhtless ?—Yes, I did.
Prisoner —19i.1 1 not then look first at your head, and
etre wards look et the ground ? —I do not recollect.
• Prisoner —How long dill the cleaver lay on the ground,
think you, before you tonic it up ?—A very few seconds.
' Prisoner-1k it upt 51/ SCCOOI4I-44, WAWA, Mee. its
from -rn
first to 1 . • 'i7 - •
Prisoner—You dleliist';elrenttstadeavonst to recover the
cleaver before you grave/ it ?-IPas, I did indeed.
Prisoner—Be sn goal, Mr. Horrocks, to -describe to my
Lord and the Jury the manner in which you say I endea-
'vowed to regain the cleaver—pray do, Mr..llorrocks ?—1
can only describe it by stating that you went to the s:nit
where it lay atxrat two yards from where I stood, and that
you stooped, as if to take it np.
Can you positively state that the cleaver lay more than
one yard u11?-1 think, as near as possible, it was two
}sr,is .
New, Mr. Florrock+, that is not an answer to my question.
Can you safely say it was more than one yard ?—Yes, cer-
tainly, it was more than one yard.
Di'd you attempt tn catch the cleaver in your hauls as it
fell from mine?-1 do not think it fell, I think I was more
in the act of warding off the blow which you were tasking
at me.

You s4v von think it was so—then you only think you
did so?—That is all.
Do you think to now ?—Yes, I am inclined to think so

Prisone—floh ! then yon ;re only inclined to think so?
I, Mr. Horrock.s, think the cleaver reiniined tls re thirty
seconds; anti why du I think so? because I saw it lying
therefor what I sippoic t•i be that space of titue. I looked
at it on the ground several times.
Prisoner—And slid you not stand at the time with your
legs open?-1 really cannot say how I stood at that mo-
ment.

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Did pa stand with one lei before and one behind ; sorely
you can answer that question really cannotanswer with
such particularity.
Why, you were in your senses, were you not, Mr. Hor-
rocks ?—Yes, I think I was. •
How many seconds •lapced hefure you took up the clearer
—can't you say that ?—Six, 'scrimps. .
Did you hurry to take it ttp ?-1 mule all 'the haste I

Did you ran, or walk, or dy ?—Mr. Horrocks did not
fly, 1 suppose, so it is easy for what you .ay Ishether you
ran ur walked ?-1 went as quick as I coul.t.
Did not your hand tremble?—Yes, it might.
Could I have rescued it from you If 1 willed ?-1 think
you would have had great difficulty in getting it from me
after I got it in my hinds.
How did you then hold it ?-1 really cannot say, but 1
held it.

Then you were perhaps out of your mind ?=-1 think not.
And yet you are describing what you sly I did Di.l I, in
fact, make any effort to rescue that cleaver from you ?-1
think yol
Dal I not for some time stand before you took up the
cleaver ?—I don't think you did.

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Speak positively, Mr. Horrocks, and do not tell me what
you think ?-1 don't believe you did stand still.
As you state you were in possession of your senses, can't
you, Mr. Horrocks, give a direct answer—yes or no ?-1 can
only say, 1 think you did not.
Did 1 not stay some time before you, when you got the
cleaver, without attacking you ?—Very few seconds.
Dig 1 remain so 12 seconds?—No.
Six sec ands, Mr. Horrocks i-1 can't say.
Four seconds, good sir ?-1 cannot say ; 1 do not think it
was more than four seconds.

Was not four seconds A very short time to look about, as
you say, for another weapon?—;t was certainly a very little
space of time.
You say I shifted my postordto regain the cleaver when it
fell; pray state how did I move; was it this or that way? (the
prisoner moving alternately to the right and the left.)—Your
body stooped, as I thoognt.
Did my feet shift? 1 have told you your's did.—l don't
know.

.Tuea you mean to say you saw all my body move, but not
my feet?-1 have spoken of what I saw.
by virtue of your oath, did I walk or run off when I struck
you—say what I id—did I run ?—I think you ran.
II uw far was I from you when you say I ran I—Five yards,
perhaps.
Perhaps less, Mr. Horrocks ? —Perhaps so ; I cannot speak
to a yard.
walked 21:,t, and thee I ran ?—I think you walked about
three yards before you ran.
Was my object to commit wilful murder, could I not have
got off much sooner?— I don't think you could.
The prisoner examined Mr. llorrocks very minutely as to the
manner in which be, the prisoneri opened Mr. Miller's gate.—
The object was to show that if he were in a hurry he could have
forced the door open by his velocity ; whereas he had opened
it inwards.
The prisoner then adverted to a paragraph in The Preston
Chronicle of the 2d of August, which had represented, or indeed
misrepresented his conduct when brought into he bed-roots of
Mr. liorrocks. Titat paragraph alleged that the prisoner had
manifested no symptom of feeling at Mr. liorrocks's condition;
that, on the contrary, he repeated his determination to destroy
him, when that Gentleman declared lie felt no ill.wlll to him,
and added, that he (the primer) would have rather seen him a
corpse. Now, said the prisoner, did I, Mr. Horrocks, express
any such sentiments towards you in your bed-room, or did you
expeess any such feeling towards me?
Ur. Horrocks—Yoo did not,•nor did I say any thing of the
kind.
Ann Johnson, Thomas and E !ward Leyland,
witnessed the tram Lion, and were examined as to the as-
sault and apprehension of the prisoner.
Ur. St. Clare, the utaliral attendantupon Mr. Horrocks,
gave evidence respecting the nature of the wound inflicted.
Mr. Richard Palmer, solici:6e, testified as to the ackno,v-
ledgments of the prisoner in Mr. Hor.ocks' bel chiniber,
and to other of his expressions.
The case fee the prosecution having here closed, the pri;
toner was called on for-h-ii defence.
Prisoner.—Shall I begin when the thought first strack
me ? '
- .Mr..Jattica RAYLET.—You rosy begin where you like.
Primaceo--1 did not know I had the discretion. •
• 'll.r.justicelta nes. —Ye., ,yes, you have. . . • .
' • Priseari.'frie first time I evertltought"afdoingaqqu.
,thiegM, Mr.. Mithr or Mr. Horrioelts Valhi viifilsot t4o
years ago. 1 then inquired wao wa. Vie cause of the arms.
pink of the wages, and I was told it was Mr. Miller and