The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-10-24 00:00:00

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TN COIIIIIIIIITTIE.
11111' or Pains apd Penalties being
put iti optitition by the House of
_ .._ r•itl sty-judgment unauthorised by
the Constitution almost under any circontstances, hut
most tinquestiousbly, as it seems to me, iu the present
cast, against the Quern---i.f which the scandalous,
maitartotitent of the foreign evidence, though possibly
unavoidable, and if unavoidable the more scandalous
in Ministers to hate projected the Intl, 1 had the va-
nity to suppose myself warranted, at an old Member of
Parliantlmt, unilisguisealy to avow and make public
such opinion by a letter which I addressed to the
Earl of Liverpool, and inserted in the Times Newspaper
of Monday, August *l. To support that opinion, and
te dealt utmost to frustrate the passing of that Bill,
so replete with dangers to the public weal, all my en-
•SeLionis have been directed ; and among other steps
taken by me, I did not hesitate to join in the plau of
raising money in order to purchase a suitable Service
of Plate for the Soitety to offer to her Majesty's gni,'
dotes acceptance in token of the warm interest the
wholtination took in her cause. This plan did not
orietife with myself ; and I should have much pre-
-4r di raise a fund to buy an annuity whereby to Ida ,
a sufficiency to any degrading grant of a paltry sant
for her -Mitjesey's Establishment, which we, the emir
stlectif the illegal persedution of her Majesty foresail
night be only allotted to her in the case of the Bill 4'
Pain and Penalties passing into a law, and d'art*
testlue her from, such inconveniences as a straitened
Inconiewould inflict should all our exertions fail to
tlitew. out the Bill.
This plan of purchasing an Annuity I proposed at
the St. Mary-le-bone Meeting, andtwhich that Aleetiog
seemed to appetite, would have offered a still higher
trihute of the natielfal devotedness to her Majesty ;
and I iihould recommend it to the Committee to aug-
-1 'tient their collection, and to liew organize themselves
fur that object upon a larger and less complicated
scale. Already has 'the very minute and elaborate
plan of the siailling subscription subjected the Com
• 'ninth-to the vexatiott of a forged baud-bill, put out
;stalest them by sonic one, to bring them into suspicion
iik iht and to please Ministers by the infusions trick
against them, the Committee, calculated to defeat their
l success iu its outset, and to impute to them evil and
,
wangerous designs--evil to the State, and dangerous
On Osemselves.
With this experience before me, I take the resolution
of withdrawing myself entirely from the undertaking,
and to recommend it, Sir, to yourself and the Cons-
otOtee and Society to whom 1 address myself on this oc-
iiiioo, to fall in with any advice, or at,least to conduct
tine scheme In a different manner, anal so as to avoid the
Obssibility of a recurrence of souk mischievous and art-
-6l interruptions, hurtful to character, and likely to clo-
sest the honourable and useful purpose for which the
cillection was originally instituted, with so much merit
tp i.e projleictots..
• I have t e honoitr to be, Sir, your most obedient and
very bumble Servant,
6E RARD NOEL.

, TIC, Mfifigai, Mew.-
Aso* to go.fisrstagls the
Hie Jewett sad, sharply
could newer have diem,
riled Itt ..brought 'mil
tbusmislibettles. • But oo ebintef tts
proooonee. the two words Ifootelfite
his bearead• Friend produced fro*
which hod been so ,asuply filled, sufficient matter to es-
&Mine on every point connected with the transaction.—
Would their Lordships again suspend his Illnstrioes
Client it that horrid unnatural swipes*, 1 Would they
,a aim subject leer to those dreadful tortures, which had
been already indicted so unmercifully, and which he
never before believed any human frame was capable of
enduring*, and fur what purpose, for the purpose of
gaining evidence, in support of a cause, rotten itt itself.
and that toilet no longer 'stand. Yoe the purpose of
gaining fresh support, to hear up this tinoecesserv,
groundless., gratuitous, uncalled fur, uumstrous, mil,
unnatural, unjust proceeding.
Mr. Iftvst se felt that he would be abandonfig his
duty, if he did not oppose leis most strenuous esertions
to tins extraordinary proceeding. And what is the ground
ion which it is demanded % Because !:cloned Browne is
uut in the toontry. And why is lie not here 1 He and
[his friends hest to complain of that. They had to cogs-
claim of Isis disgraceful comities and practices. Ile bad
toed much of courts of justice ; Out they oughts° blush
1 and bold down their heath, at the very mention of a
!Court of justice. Who ever heard of a coon of justice%
is which the accawil aas brought to a trial without
a knowledge of the crime, the tioarges, or the sr-
clisetr? Was ever such a proceeding heard Oft.
Colonel Browse ought to be here as a Milan Ctifis-
mislioner, if not is a nitnest. The same ship that coo-
' rived his docititents should hire ',molest himself. Aid
irlieW he (31t..1).) came to complain of this, lie is met
, with a cloud of paneryric on Colonel Browne. and others
resole drawn, with a blank for any use it might fit.. It
is false to soy., he could he ignorant of what was going
forward. He must have known the necessity of *Wald.
' ing. Ile would not (linoleum Ishii unheard. lint hr
could not avoid saying, that there were charges
against him of a most damning natnre, which he
should answer. It was a most font proceeding
--one that could only he dragged from the
archives of Hanoverian justice. • The Learned
lieutleman reminded his able and energetic speech,
with an appeal to their Lordships against the proposi-
tion.
The ATTORNI:V•6IENCRAL rose to reply to the Ob-
servations of his Friends on the opposite side. Ile
had to answer muck declamation about injustice to-
wards het Majesty. But iu no instaace was greater
clemency extended, than towards her Majesty, he
allowing her time after the proserention was closed,
to prepare for her defence. Ile contended that
he was making no unheard of application to
their Lordships, it was only one which they
might to grant as an act of common justice. Mr.
Denim!' had stated, that the application had beeo
wade at the suggestion of others. He denied the as-
' aertion, and declared that it ens.thated from 'doled(,
after repeated consultations with those whose opiniotat
he rained more than his own—he meant .his Leaner{
' Friends around him. Ile trusted, that for this thele
I Lordship would t•she his worst, although it seemedi
'it had not been taken at the liar. Mr. I)entssau balk
stated, that he (the .‘ttorney-(leuerel) bad applied
'for time on a .preriuus o••casion, ipon factitioosH
grounds. Ile knew sot what Ale. Damian meant
by the assertion, for when he had stated that the
Lugano witnesses tool retnrettel, he had stencd a fact. of
which Mr. Denman well knew the trnth from his owls
evidence. Use of his witnesses had swore that he paw
one of the persons who had so returned at loagatio, and li
some of those persons were now in this country.
Mr. Delman must therefore have knowu his charge
to be false. If be hod made such a representation
to their Lordships as that which hr di.l Make, and no
such witnesses had been in existence, he never again
could have held up his head in any eoeiety whatever.
He now called npon their Lordships for an opportuuity,
in justice to Isis case, to call Col. Browse to contradict
the testimony of Pot:Pali and others, whom they
never could hare expected to be called. They hail
never been nsentioned in the comments either of
his friend Mr. Brougham, or of Mr. Williams, and their
Lordships as well as himself had been taken by surprise
in their production. in common justice, therefore, lac
claimed the means of contradicting their evidence:
Whatever appeared !obits) to he his duty in the situation
I rsitlirch he stood, that duty be would discharge fearless',
and honestly,whateter aspersions and insinuations w'
be mat upon him.- .
The LORD CIA 7testt.on said that•ther Lordshil
now strived at * most inn tent stage of the proceed.
e 1/4
inge. If no particular stances hod occurred '
oshstruct the regular Conrad; h was punned ma -
mations as the present, it woad sow have been I
party supporting the Bill to have called witnesses
have contradicted others, as fares the ntles of law w"
allow. It appeared to him, that ruder the circntw
which had trceurred, it was the dotty of the AL
Ilene:al to make this application, and it was also
duty of the Learned 'Counsel un the other side to app
etolt.
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it.' It would he for their Lordships to consider what.' . .
emirse woithl be most consistent with substantial justice. i entf all Troeb or r . r 7 cboiMMlle.. -
There was this tillfeeeitee between a Parliamentary pro.
seed. psi.—_____
ing, and that of an ordinary court of justice. In • -
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the:letter, emrseirwtnt on only from day to shay that it was . Pitairatn, Ocr. 9 —We %VP' idoeitod the following
fn the nature of Parliament tp adjournfor longer periods. from Mason, dated the 19tii Styliellbet r...-,
Upon ibis Atoond, an adjournment could be granted, if it • ss We Imre %M AC Unttls seasitom oripielLM mime
. wimld in‘rowelstsWi teitiloetiee.. thilt" there* wa. yr" 'Sh ' ell/Biter-In IMs port, with that of the Neited tiesilts
"
ofe`itY for rite 'delay. t ought not to be 47°Tited.-- of iteirecica. The Spanish equadron'salled from Mabee
(Herr; hear.) Jltentareitt• treat • ritlnctatice he desired on the 16th, to cruise from Barcelona:4 Carthapitisa,
to Impose epos bierseilthe)ask of enosidering the whole- and then to pat Into Micant to receive orders. Tester;
•of the evidctic% and oil the circumstance. of the eases day a Hutch frigate smelted here; coming from Algieiii
ami then of delis:flog his opinion to the .flemse,. ondsiprowgbt. isfennatioo *et the Algeelne squares
*Wetter consistently with sobstantial justice, they ~,„„eadr to put to ees...but it was net kedwit where ft.
(night. or ought not to gfant fhe delay. .He should „west& seed. is .44,4. she visit of the speßish mos.
he ready to submit that opinion to' their-Lordships wlpeii droasto that bay had predated a vesyser..--. erect, as it•
thoy met again titbit o'elOck eiorroir monde,. . oodusseiveil the isfgerines, and showed diem that oft are
. Lord Guty.approved of the-delay, lust he should oar noPee destitute of strength as they believed. I tiniest
gest one thing of, 3n hie • nainhot. &meat lo!Porre het. alas informed:re that a conspiracy against the net had
The tomtits on which their Lordships "bid tieisbeemdisrsivered. at /tlgierr, •lad that the 'conspirators '
. decide we's,: whether tile:apOiestioll shoulde he Retuned itadioreirzeimid.: The Dii tar Admiral is-of opinion that
ncite,'Or lift* the A ttorney•Hesieral wolild hai•e an oppor- . the visits to Algiers ought to be frequentlyrepeated."
!unity of getting fresh • rvideoed,' led thus add to the
~ Nam". Oct; h.,_,A tett", from la %holm of the
delis' of justice. • Athol Agast, &nanies. that hostilities were resented
Momd st tweetViVe Wattles pad three. - • en die 4th; and Metre. in. the meet positive meaner.
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Teetaewsw_The 106044 pseesastalijfelhazerfass. twasimannvaaripation of tar is, their *device. • ft ds• let
blowers tomeorrow,. tea' rang 40- with the kddiesi lbelsotiu"immtrY."Vilv alteiler Alt li tliti Mat
to her fdojesty at •Britlideobuttls Heist; will' be "I's"' Palk"' • • - • e
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drawn Joy titer hortes. The. amehilr• who •ihlyild" te. shies be 'Wit • en' an Arrip per day, thorn
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Chamdaoetrect, Caretwiish-sciaare,
October sal, 189 Q.
P.C. 1 oltall he willing to become again a Trustee, un-
der sidtserr 'modification ail soy agireve.

PROCEEDINGS AGAINST THE QUEEN.

AecOt NT Or TIM TOTAL Extreme INCTRIIIRO ON AC•
COl NT Of THE PROCIKOINOI CARITIN• OR AGAINST Tallt
OI ANN. ita CAR All Tilt. SAVE CAA OE NADI OUT.
The Total Sum applied sat of the Secret
Service Money, front the eonesaseeseteat
of the Proceedings .. 118,100 16 0
The Total Hum issued to Mr. Minfit. the
Solicitor of theTressary. out of the past
of Parliament for Civil Contiogetwies, for
Ake Exitance of those Proceedings, is...
The Total Sum Weed to Mr. %laird. We
itiajest)'s Solicitor. oat of the Grant of
Varna otent.for {atisri ing t;barges
dpea the tiottsolidated Vaud or Civil
4.ift, for the E‘penrc of those Proceed•
Augs is

16,000 6 0

09,009 0 0

114. llie le - 0

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Frielkdaou the °Pli"lte $41%
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PbOnei did ht. (ftlf:'Brolitiblun) • 1F64
1. p 0 et 117;1
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atom.," rills those sum of OP, ! .33. 1.4. udt
also IL'e . heiode the &epees. o -
leteense tioly mid London t obi* ANN •
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