The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-06-06 00:00:00

CATITOLIC CLAVIc,

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The 'Marquis of LA NSDOV:NE mom; 'he com-
mittal of th,t e‘lat e Trade Cto:.if;11"/•.,
The Eat 1 cf '.V Olt LA NEI seid, thel itn is
with repel that st to lautt n '
he coincided in the priu..iitly of puffin.:
Slave rade carried ott by tormeo Poe
(wild not help repeafine his objt c:iens
sinus of this Bill. on account of the ris
the innocent were exposed by thim. lie,
that by the provisions of this Bill, It appe,
that any person in this country by his a:
money which might be applied to the 5
though entirely without his know !Mel
liable to be tried as here the act was comm
might he in any part of the Vet ledie
coast of Africa : so that n friend of the
(leis now at Madrid (alluding perhaps to
land) might be hurried away from hit
tried before the West India Tribunals, o'
Learned Serjeant of Sierra Leone. I
known that the trials in these places w,
ducted with the same order and' regulai
and, therefore, this was a grievous hard,
respect to the clause against lending mm
security of property in the foreign islam
son here or in the West Indies Might he
a trial in those tribunals,because' he ml
debt due to him for goods cr.e.tigeed tlr
and this was the mere d tneerm.s, bna
sou to whom the moues was lee: as 11161
ed in this trallie, was not eely to be
to got fiee of the whole debt : the re wa
the clrongest temptation to bring loaned
trial, ifany colour of crireinalLy could
as to afford a chance for conviction. • It
be observed that the late Act had never L.
in this respect so as to attempt the supprt
(renee by the preuniary penalty. The
cations were against persons directly t
the traffic, and they knew the issue of th
Leone, where the.learned Sergeant NC'
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE s:k
clause as to the !calling money on seed
f:)reii.,,n islands extended only to moc
laud, and not to security on the produci
out such a clause. whole provisions
would be nugatory. With respect to i
sous, the Act extended only to those wh•
and wilfully lent their money for this pa
pose. There were, however, a few
which he wished to propose. As to tl
they wore such- as existed for the punish
cy, which this offence very much roseml
Lord ELLENBOROUGiI did not
persons could be carried out of this tee
this Act, to be tiled by the foreign tri
as to these tribunals, the proceedings in
to be according to the usual. forms of
[AW, as in a late case (probably that of
the 01(1.Bailey. But he confessed that
titulars the offence did not appear to hi
scribed with sufficient certainty to mak'
subject of felony. If a person in this
money transactions in the foreign West I
and happened to make a mistake in an a,
might be submitted as evidence to a Jur
was not felony under this Att. He di
oppose such a Bill us this, lest it should
that he was friendly to that which he Iv
in abolishing: but to make a crime w'
ject to so much uncertainty li..hle to the
of felony, with all its consequences,
cessively unpleasant. lie belt; it very
conscience' not to give it a cordial
might be made the subject of treble retail
case of usury; but it was barbarous '
make it a felony. He was anxious, the
it should be reconsidered.

The Ebel of WESTNIORLAND, in
had been stated by the. Notle Marquis,
had :tut alludeu to the danger that intim
might be punished. but to the danger
.rought to trial at such distant place.
An:! he was atili.of opi
cordieg to ti:e records of the Act, prosi,
trial should take place w here the offence
mitteti, persors might lie taken from this
bn tried before those triounals.
Loud GRENVILLE staid, that the
the measure was to bare it declared, .
guii'y i f this atrocious ct ivie mere to bi
atind.-;:is criminals, aid to i)e punished
by the time ti:',tinais which were app,
punishment of pir:ey. As for the pecutti
it had been found thlt the profits of this
traffic were sorb es to ovehrilance it.
to check the offence was to degrade
engaged in it from that rank in socim
crime rendered them unlit to hold. But
that the severity of the puiiishment rer
more necessary that the law should be cl
.cise in its enactment:, end he hoped hi
Learned Friend, whcse powei rut aFisi.n
business of the Abolition he well mine;
would always remember with gratitude,
his aid in gibing the Act all the precisiel
was susceptible.
The Earl of LI VERFOOL ,nugget
most prorer plait would be to agree t.
mews of the Noble Iliarvis, and then
Bill printed, that the clause might see
perfect state, and then decide whether
be necessary to have it recommitted.
Tt.i; was u:;reed to. The amendment'
duced, acid the Bill ordered to Le prtutt
ed.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The Parish Apprentice Bill was read a second
The Irish Ship Lettcr 8.11, and Irish Malt r
read a first time.

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Leen enfot ced
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only prose... ;;
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s of the Act •
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tbted.
of think that
:wary, under
ribunals; and
n them ought
the COMAIOU
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t in some par-
him to Ise de.
ke it a proper
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country had
India islands,
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ry whether it
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d be imaL:incil
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stuff of die
astent. rabid
laity, as in I'l4
legiAation
herefvre, tikt•
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reply to adOet
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°Gent ,porseue
of their Ldnir,
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linicti that eq.
titling that the
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his country to
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, .that poi-SOUS
to regarded, as
as such, end
iv-tinted for the
niars, penalty,
is aliominahle
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those retsons
Ply which the .
ut he admitted
'ndered it the
deer and pre.
'is Nohle and
,ifance in the
embrrrtl, and
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en of which it
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to the amend-
ta hate the
, it inits most
r it might not
its were intro. 1'
ted as amend.
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