The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-10-22 00:00:00

THE FrrivrEsmAN. • •,

B LA,CIrFEURS' BRIDGE.

TITHE MEETHE

On Tuesday, the 13th October, there was a very
numerous and respectable Meeting of the Nobility,
Gentry, and Protestant Clergy of the County of
Kilkenny, held at the Courthouse, for the purpose
of taking the tithe system into consideration.
Lord Viscount hum,/ ILA Sheriff in the
I a o a
,Chair.
The CHAIRMAN having tend the requisition, in
.consequence of which the Meeting was called,
The Earl of Dcsaier said; that he should occupy
the attention of the Meeting as short a time us possi-
ble, on a subject which was so well understood. Its
importance, however, and his respect for *the vener-
able body to whose property it related, urged him to
offer a few observations : his Lordship then adduced
some satisfactory arguments to shew the injurious
[ operation of Tithe on the agriculture of the country.
I Tithe differed most essentially from rent—for rent,
when once fixed, must continue the same, generally
for a term of three lives, or 31 years, must be as high
Ito the most slothful as the most industrious farmer,
I and must he felt oppressive by the indolent only, and
I consequently operate as a strong stimulus to their
exertions. As to Tithe, to the lazy grazier it was no
burthen ; it was only felt by that most useful and I
I numerous class of men, the tillage farmers, by whose !
; exertions Great Britain was, during the last year, I
! • saved from all the horrors of famine, and who must I
ever complain of so serious a charge upon their la- I
boor- and capital. This was a charge, too, the more
i grievous, froni the uncertainty and constant increase
which the succession of incumbents was ever found
i,to produce. His Lordship then adverted to the ope- [
[retied' Tithe had on the tranquillity of the country, I
I it being, in• his opinion, a productive source of most
of its disturbances ; bat he wished to pass over this [
delicate branch of the subject as briefly as possible.
He then proceeded to obviate the objections so con- !
Mandy made against the practicability of a modifies- f
tion of the Tithe System ; and stated, that the defects'
of the system now so much complained of, might be'
Ipartly remedied, by a power to the Clergy to grant 1
[ leases to the landlord, or occupying tenant only, for [
fourteen 'or twenty-one years, at the full value; such
t leases to be registered, and not renewable until after
I the expiration of the term. Such a Committee as this 1
° would grant a temporary relief, which might be after-
! wards rendered permanent, by the exchange of these
Tithe Rents for land, He considered land as the best
1 equivalent, and such as would secure the Clergy from
E
the loss they might otherwise sustei,q, from the depre-
ciation of the currency of the country in progress of!
time. His Lordship then expressed the high respect
he entertained for the Clergy, and that in bringing I
forward the measure he was about to propose, lie was ;
actuated no less by a regard for their interest a:nd
welfare, than for the peace and prosperity of the'!
country. He then moved a Resolution, which had
previously obtained the sanction of the last Grand !
Jury of the City of Kilkenny, viz.:— 1
" That it is the unanimous opinion of this Meeting that the
Interposition of the Legislature on the sohject of Tithe, would
be higbh conducive to the tranquillity of Ireland, and the pro- .
sperity of the agricultural interest."
JosEPH GREENE, Esq. seconded the motion.
The Rev. Dr. ANTHONY PACK then rose and ad-
dressed the Meeting. He requested gentlemen to
consider . well the important proposition now sub- !
witted to their adoption before they would sanction
it with their approbation., 'lo him the subject ap-
peared as one of the most vital nature, and leading ,
• to an innovation not only dangerous to the pro-
perty of the Clergy, but to the. property of all around
him. The title of the Clergy to Tithes was as hide-
I feasible as that of any gentleman present to his
estates—and any measure calculated to disturb the :
i one, would, in process of time, prove injurious to
I the other—he therefore admonished the Meeting to
Ipause before they would come to any decision on a
, question of such magnitude, and pregnant tith so
!many fearful consequences—under such impressions
he thought it right to suggest the propriety of an ad-
journment, in order that the Clergy might be enabled
to confer together and determine upon such measures
as should be deemed necessary for the preservation
of their rights.
The Rev. Dean of OISORY and the Rev. Dr. 13e-T- '
LER made a few observations expressive of• their ap-
probation of the sentiment deliverpd by Dr. Pack.
The Rev. Mr.-Moscx. was onetihe:same side. •
The Rev. Dana STEVENSON, after a few observe-'
Itions upon the necessity of great caution iu making
I any change in property which had remained unal-
[ tered for centuries, said, at the same time, that lie
did n. t altogether agree with his brethren who had
I spoken before him—he was not afraid of the inter-
! position of Parliament, having the utmost reliance
on its justice and wisdom ; and lie trusted that any :
[ alteration it would sanction 'would he no less bene-
ficial
i• to the Clergy than to the Laity. To use the
[ words of the celebrated Dr. Woodward, Bishop of
Cloyne, " Whenever a better plan should be sug- -
; gested for the payment of the Clergy, that is, one
equal in value to them in succession, and more con-1
venient to the Laity, he would [batik the Statesman
who Would disencumber him from the constant tron- ;
ble and occasional ill will arising from Tithes." [
The Rev. Mr. Cooke, the Rev. Mr. Hamilton, the'
Rev. Mr. Hunt, the Rev. Mr. Caulfield, the Rev..
Mr. Shaw, and the Rev. Mr. Roe appeared to co& I
1 cur in opinion with Dean Stevenson. -
Mr. Nowlan, Mr. Harty, and Mr. Later made a
[ few remarks. •
[ ' Lord Desert then replied to Dr. Pack's obser-
vation, and the High Sheriff having put the question
upon his Lordship's motion, it was carried unani-
mously ; as was also a motion that the following Peti-
tion be presented to Parliament by the Representa-
tives of the County :
TO TJ! t; RIGHT HONOURABLE AND HONOUR-
ABLE THE KN It lITS, &c. Attz, Oil., PARLLA Al I:NT
ASSEM !ILEA.
The Amble Petition of the Freihiaderi nt the County of
Kilkenny, duly convened by the nigh Sheri*: of said.
County,
Strawstit,

That an arrangement, calculated I. afford the F.stablished
O,we n,. a fair equivalent for the 'income cleared by them from
would be attended with the most beneficial consequences
airy, by promoting, in the most effectual manner, its
-
altercated tranquillity.
pear Petitioners ar folly convinced that it i 4 only ne-
...ry for this Honourable House to direct its serious attention
to the wildeet ; tecueeeed is devising an equivalent sat Wachs')
to the Clop and the Laity; and your Petitionms therefore
most humbly enticht this Honourable House will be manna)
pleased to take this most important matter into its
cuaidgraitin. • -
I sad roar Pacitioana will pray.

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TOtillek.

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Mxivstatr-Iktma.; Robert Rnieret. already well known to
our Headers. was, oil Wedne.day, charged b, lure the Ls.' p
k VIII!. ON isti,pieillll of a forgery on the'honse "47.
tis, mid Cu. nod was remanded for further e Thus inai
wind., a silvirsrnitst, is Bellesastsage-yarst, ass
broughtup fr fariltec.examinali it hoirio7 been remanded 04
Sa,urd.sy la,t `ll a, timirge exhibited against him by. I wism,
sioliers of ilie 0140, of stamping un cerbow
plate
;:it:lsitat
moiler titilitorilerie.ts,..mmlit.liitsigotrhkesst:7
rb..aufsi
blasters. I emsse;tter.ce informat 4... fledge, the limn ‘j-5 6'4
110111•.., it appea red t: a the while •e !tie lqarshaFs own ;J.:4a
visit in a body to the irremim, occupied by the Prisoll.r.
biome, &e. and seizing in each of ..b-se places .evert article
pile which they could Rod. airy also found three pune.se,
which they brought area g with thbin. one of 1414:1 beari.s4
tae
initials of Prisoner name. The Pritouer, at he time s•t* s,s
being taken into custody, h .d in his LAO a si vet ssa sio/na,
which the °Meer kept apart from the re -t of the artielos, tie
etainibiur it, the Assay st.aup upon it r. a• round 10 hea torgrr,,,,
von
Si
also the case, with tat: gi•cater pan of Pi.; pe...te faiths, ,;y
his premises.
Mr. !WIRT appeared as CNoilitSrl fur the Primar‘r, .;nif by his
ad v're the Prisnner reserved ht. &Tette.. for *potter phase,
The Prisoner was liCent dully commit/v(1 r or trial.
(itittmitat.L.--thw of tile Oflieers charg-d a winrian whom he
had taken into custody on l'uesday night, ht•ltteell 31% ~111 5e%",
o'clock, while walking al mug the streets, 0 owing iu hoc
possession two small bundles cutitainiog articles of wsicll sue
Could Hid give an account.
The wouisto stated, that it was not six o'clock at the time the
(meet took her into citstorly. The tine huuJII.. einfained clothes
for one of her cteo,detb, ar,tl
which FM had be Iva-fling
other handle rural feed some dirty chdhes, sth;ch she was tak-
ing loon to wash for another. She had two children at home,
ss ho text 131411 deprived of her care all night ; and slii• could 11,4
say %hat injury. being kept away from her family slid from her.
n 9r.k might have done her.
Tile worthy Alderman (sir M. Dtamavt) reprobated instrohg
terms t c conduit of the Olfirer, who has, greatly exceeded los
duty. This was a land of lit.erty, as it was called ; and w.ss he
to suffer a person to be susile..:llll in toe eserche of her howl,
avocation at so early ao hour as six u • tteven o'clock in vie evet
niurr, merely heratoo she was poor l Tois am; a I tiittide %hien,
a lb, his cutiscoi, 900510 w? slusuld head!oised to aiisitne.
A Camtlemanstepped forward and stated, that one of the bun-
dles found un the wousau, contained clothes otiongior to bit
Si,n which the woman Oho had been their washerwoman foe
years)Mal bees employe to wash fur him
'The it wilt r' illdernian then ordered that the officer should re-
tire, and sirilsfy the woman for me injury she had await:ed. in
cow:peace of having been falsely imprisoned, or that hr c;•:ir
M. CLux.ta) sbutlid take care ise should not Llng continue as
Odicer. _ _ _

NARIBOROUGII-STII.CgT. —A genteel-dressed manor the itnnis
of Lune, has been v.stoe time in custody, clarged sevist
threatening. letters to Mrs. Ttivey Long wee:4oy, to .n tits
!honey.' Prisoner had previously t.eeu exaMiued, and it
appeared that severalietters 'tad been seat to tile lady, a ins:
the Prisoner to be embarrassed, and threatening to S;N)4t tier if
she did lint give him 1001. !tome of the !etters threatened e.r.
Wellesley as well, as Isis lady, and the former adthaded this tl,sy.
The Prisoner was remanded.

LlNtos-liAst..—lasues Sivarnol“ mut charged by the Landlord
of the Elite Boar public house. iu the 13961'10, w itb assaulting
him.'lt appeared that on Tuesday eve Linc, about serve
o'clock, the Prisoner called at the Prorecir or s house, and de s•
sired to have-a private tuntn—he WaS dhl)W11 to one, and he suna
after requested In loom if I.e could mice a bed and a hat supper.
Liuidlord Istforined him be might have it b-d, atid day thing
be pleased for "itipper. l r then oidered some teal cUtieci
Sansaiter, and _afterwards some brandy and water.
About ten o'clock the Prisoner rung the belt, at:d desired
bed iciest be got ready, sas he n mild walk in me air for 10
minutes, as NM hie Usual Custom after supper. tie was pia; to
leave the house for that purpose, vs ben the I.dedllovd naotlealy
hinted, that, as-he WAS a stringer, It would if more -atistke-
tory, if, previous to going for .is evening walk, he would tears
! a deposit as security for his su d per. 'I he Prisoner took eolenro
at this request, sad was proceedin,t to leave toe house, ultra the
Prosecutor prevented him by Oath himself in ihu doom ay.
i The Poisoner, however, proceeded deliberately to remove :lie
obstruction, by seisiug the laodlurd by the collar, and applying
his fist to his nose with such force and effect, as to CdOC tits
blood to flow copiously. This alarmed the Landlady, alto
called the watch, and the Prisoner was taken into custody. Ibis
Alagistrate ordered him to fad bail, and not being prepared, lea
was committed. . .

An unfortunate affray took place in Holheash
Marsh a few days since, when a labourer, i t Cie
service of Mr. Wildors, was killed by a senate of
-Mr. Cooper. The following are authentic particu-
lars of this affair, as stated before the Corot's, .
An inquest was held on Weditesdav, 7th jest. hp
S.-EDWARDS, jun. Gent. on the body of. John Dad
more, labourer, a native of King's County, Ireand,
whose death was thus occasioned. The witnossea.
examined on this occasion were two women who-
were presetit at the time the scuffle happened. Their
evidences were pretty touch alike, both stating that
Mr. W. %Sliders came into the field to call his la-
bourers to go and assist him in getting his •waggens
along the road, to the creek where he was delivering •
his corn ; upon which occasion he desired them not
to take their sickles w ith them, but to take astickcael,
in case Mr. Covers laboure6... should attack,
them, bet Mr. W. bogged of them -not to hurt any
body. Tho dere:lced was passing along side a wag-
gnu which. Mr. Qooper had placed across the read,
close to a gate, to prevent Mr. Wild,,r's teases from
getting forward, when one Alderman, a labourer,
in the employ of Mr. C. struck the unfertunate
over the head with a hodding spade, w;lich made hilts
stagger; and knocked his hat etf... Aldoman
imme-
diately repeated his-blow, by etopping Delmore OR
his naked h?ad with his WetipOri, upon which, the
women declared, they saw. the blood, instently fol.
lowiN the blew, drop from the spade, and the us•
happy victim of Alderman's • fury fall ON -the greattl.
'file Jury adjourned untill Monday the 12th, that
the evidence of some other persons might he pro.
dated, *hen they apin
..met, and returned a ver-
dict of wilful murd..r against Aldorman,- who has
'since been- ccmtnitted to Lincoln Castle to take bit

trio!.
Last, Thursday night, a valuable nun was killed
in nfiglt .larinoging to, Mr. Pltnes, ;stf Glyevley,
near Lewes, by some villains, who conveyed awl). •
thv carcass, and left • the skin and entrails behind
them. The ram was the property ofJOha:
Sebright, -of whom Mr. Ellman had hired the ani..
mal for the season, at one hundred guineas. Sub 4
picion attachne to two men, named William glad;
wick and IViI iurx Denis,, whose footsteps were
traced to the very threshold of the house they bcck:•
pied; whereupon it was searched, and three.saelv,
:much stained with -fresh and stale blood, beim;
found thereon ; 'they were taken up on Friday, aud
examined before a Magistrate, who committed them
to the House of Correction, fog further eiatninatio.
Hutto L. AR Y.—Two-thieves elected an entrance into
the shop of Mr. bl`Ketizie, of VAlteney.!ttreet, early
on Sunday evening, ascTsteli from the till money to
the amount of 1111, -.They nor., seen with. a Om-
mering light in the shop, by a lodger., who went down
stairs for an article... lie did not ,suspect thein.to be
thieves, until they ran off—arid,. unfortunately,. have
not since been heard of.

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On hlowlay Wit, at Castle Coolabf: WO* Michael Joesion,
Fag. of Colerne, to Slim NewnianeWeatdauestef E. em-
man, DA. of the fanner plate: • • .
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.&N DO M Ortated and !Nil idled Ire D. LeOwle'. `ld be
. Pia 4 Wit*. Orriec.B7; Flest.fit-140.
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