The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-04-23 00:00:00

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soloist the Maw itiglioni. He . ...med. goweites •
isumwe epee He 'woke Of the limos. the shop doe
wlsMtlsr peewit ilevetweeelhat litasd'had had it
delibentiaa epos 'whit subject.. it. bail . mot big .ht
aito for three *mob, foil net It Imad.beei called !pH
it vesnerly the adspoivarerut of centuriee 1 amt.. - -
It bed net vet Saved oat with a remedy; ON44ght
ben. teeese.femed with is oddries to the:mans. -
If opera to, walla convey *pea It the severest Pima&
Roily emelt • Horse as the rigid hoe. hart. proposed
was eat akelated to ashasie the !visit Usserraspoet.li
thipeefisegniumee of he duty, much less tea re Ils•
poi& of Wined with that milideoce ill it, which "a
as oitotial to the establishing of a good Vollettied4
lig beitono the governors and the ;surer.,,..
plait boomprolde gentlenwo. before "by asigkid
to the present address. to iciollOrt Wit tfm! rienstialti
which 'evolved time perfumer** inemmedi oftgileast wets
those to-which thentunition of 'Aber. goectsgante bed
also been attrarsted7-that those wiiittßa es-. i
thins of great listritaty and af wench • • • • •
• and
that • their 'lntricacy and .1i111411117 lot'
millieleady char by the reluctance of .344
worriment. it come to any Asa 'dilates almi -
Was there, he world then ask, any ponad fiw impatiett
blame to a Boverement.••• *hilt -had not ben three
months. nay, sot awe' thin seers weeks. I. Ace I.
!relied. becalm it had net, dining that abet *peal.
completed a work which all the other Horernmeeti had
sodeavoured, hot had eestearoured In Hid: to *firm
and accomplish?. 1110nsolion 'of the Hoe. Barnet was
also most eldectionahlts whoa dewed in another sod
more sedate light. He thought that every gentleman
would agree with hies when he asserted, that id wleet a
morient of great public alkelty. la whit," the whole
attrition 411111a0VerflafIll was taken up in enforcing the
dee mieention of the laws, for affixing .. radiometery
stigma un its troadoset. was fraught whiPadogres of
deafer which thaw self could. estimqte who .were- as
whit 'Morehouse** and Bee fettle's of Irishmen.
It would be absurd to suppose tbek He procesidienni of
that honer were unknown tel the`piegb of !reload; they
singStarb
were well known to them.: end Jeff no. mum nit
fail to discover thatshe objevt of the ithtliiiir as
to withdraw ftinn their gotten's t WWI&
ParllausentllAM twposediwthent. If, thweitspet Pielittr.
esti ae eroded! to the present emotion. it womsliChe tact-
Ifg a severe intend 'Heti the stability aide feverisennit
Ireland i for by witheirawinglivirallieni.-from lt.
It would teach elitimemsole of !reload to willolaw Hobs
also. and stoe g wonld create a great obstacle loymie views
of impreiant in its condition. /lie N. Settility
then prooredleto stew. that if be biditiyhtly nodersiod
the obervitlen ofothe Rlghtliei paloolfr• 114.0 M-4 it-
tribeted He enfonsoato state of Inlaid to three &Beet
causes: Ist. to its usiagoveremeet; tale. is He tet".
predated ort:lt W the noteuer hi which ftk vivaria was
collected ; aid Salt. to the tithe systniettwilch belted
afterwards soperadolesl the Ito:nal CargelliAsaldUtles.
Now, to enteenettgatoll ilisrussios'ofteWMlWtheisltiell
these 3 dietioet ensecoperated spa Irehood..erneld et
espy more of the time iadattiatioti of Hp base than
-he was either Wells"! to bit, or tbeitiusi in WO** was
I=l to to hint. 'With • . to the
Ca c slisabilltiei, ' . • - .13ert
lhatil plaits, ng the tin cif
di . lelllkh
he shonleproteed to cordiaid Ai 4.
remitted to observe. that it was a qoestli; ef,rck fm
portiere as to be entitle.' to a distinct and iperite dig-
fission. It was a fiendish that • dill not 41111Mirelanos
sione—it affected. the whole empire; ask•tittnefore.
when it was specifically htootht befog:* the, Het'
would he the time for declaring the reasons • tie pre.
seat systim should he confined-or *hie/trim *hied
in its stead. nose diihiltdes, her" foirisertl from
she informatiee which Ile bail earefony sought to obtain
upon the subject—those disabilities were nit at all eon-
netted with the present distarbantealis Inland. It was
tree that in Him progress some religioi feeling slid,
upon one or two peasiono, seem to have been gametes!.
That, howeiri, would not be at all surrisday to any
person acqiaisted wilt(' the state of goetetyin, lilies'.
The higher orders of it consisted of Protesteith end the
lower orders of Cistliolies. Now It was oil/ the lower
orders of the coos unity that were engaged to the per-
il* disterbantes ; and as their attacks were solely di.
Hied againstpersono of property. who were in general
Protestanta. it was not unnatural that the -persons so
Mooched short., attribete the outrages, of -which they
hod a rici.t to complain, to the religion which. those pro-
leased Who committed them.' He should now quit the
Rowse Catholic qiunition„ in order to advert. to the amis.
goverment which the Right Hon. Baronet had alleged
as oar of the causes of the distressed state of Ireland. He
did not mean todeny.wisat every peril' ii hist-senses woo
.aihmeit.that the early wiegoveriurentof I relasmi.or besides'
say itp early conquit.was the original came of all the evils
soder which it now' labored. That coaqnest was conduct-
•ed on principles more adverse to the happiness of tlor
people than any event of o similar nature that had ever
occurred in the history of the world. No attempt had
been made to conciliate the conquered. or to amalga-
orate them with the conquerors. On the ern I. the
policy which had been pursued was to keep the two par-
ties distinct and separate; thereby laying the founda-
tin of that bitter animosity which had been banded
down from father to son. and which et that Very swensoot
prided the egad, of the great bole of the Irieh pee
early. In support of that opinion. lie need mile refer
the babe to those domestic and familiar stip aid4ales
oil which the Irish pimp confirmed to hip wish Zoo
sees on the period when the Hagfish nameless ankeowe
in Ireland, and when Ireland was the glory of the world.
superior to all the countries by which sloe was surround-
ed. To that very moment. the (vedette:high bad been
pursued on the conquest of Ireland was referred to in
that country as a Just trolled for hatred of the existing •
riovernment. The nest cease to which the Right Hon.
Baronet attributed the disturbances in Ireland was, the
amount of demanded from that .country. But
the Right Hon. Baronet, though he showed Ireland to
have been charged with two seventeenths of the burdens
of the empire, and though that might be too large a
proportion for Ireland to bear. Its took away that argu-
ment altogether, when he acknowledged that this coun-
try bad taken upon herself the debt ineureed-on account
of Ireland to make np one seventieth of the pro-
portion charged upon her which she was unable
to pay. But when it was said that taxation is
Ireland forced the gentry of that country to seek
refuge in England, he would remind the lion. Baro-
net how incalculably great the weight of levities
bad been in this country during the war to what it was
in Ireland, and ask if any man from each motives as the
Right liotmurable Baronet bad supposed could have
been induced td take up his residence in Eagliad. That
argument to a/stolid for the absence of *tided Ovary,
it appeared to him was wholly incapable Of brie Dodo-
tamed. The question with respect to tithei. which had
been touched upon by the Right Ilia. Baronet. was ow
which appeared to him (Mr. tionlintrn) to dressed a at-
perste consideration. This he thought was the view
which the Bight HON. it %soviet took of it himself,' from
the short and succinct minter in nhich be had noticed

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zletwo at
tranikwred tithes to tiniest property. They mere
be ren-fol that they did not adopt a principle which
*midland twtho general invasion Of
.Itellterif' sod
which would product a degree of confluent and direr-
itemisation far heisted whit: could be ocesaioned by any
other mow. This question was ate of those that were
Moot &Snit to treat. The cousplaiats of them smog
creed is the disturbances. were by wit mesas confintsdll
;reclusively to tithes. Some. of the ilasuncittfions
which he lad &Boded, spoke of tithes. but abet* amen/
referred to the rest of Lind—ethers to county mpg",
eats—and others to the payment of Priests' JOS; di
that there was nothing in any way connected with this
prettiest exercise of tiovernmeot is any tore that
net the st*setof complaint. Th. chows Wkinit-d
bus onmetioncod in Ireland as in EnglandollisHhotena
miseries of the war. had produced distress in varkmapneles
did slisallktion once rowed, it bad proved. It
there as bete to lay bold of any topic of esasplaHlt role
Alma the minds of any particular chits aid tails,
tithes, tad rent were inaiscrintioinelv mined sifter huff
Having disposal of tie twolmportnet branches
gibe lioesti•e, it only rentalle4 tor hits to allude la
what had bees she condart of Om Goverantrat of Ire-
to its infection* fee Om Mare. W hoe the Oa
verstment arrived in Ireland, the period wait mot epie
of tho mist anspicions. The disturbanees Art
testate which diem prevailed were such as bad
t Ind been known for a considerable time past.
aml inch as ultimately broke oat into epee
affection
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the laws and government ot the
country. It therefore became rbe paramount ditty
of the administrators of that Government to torn their left
attoution to the 'oppression of those danserous estragee
which mermaced the wintry with rain. It was tree lid trit
proses* those °lenges bad bees in same pods estridll,
The masers. which Parliament thought It wise
had beta attended with the meek of driving the
mad the tetindeat to mere detest par el esecure..
eherweek seems of atrocity were repeated. sotthe
metelsity
M the ado* as would amend the cominnaoce of dine
Illinseurs sill they were exteiedeated altogether.
*said net describe describe the state of the South of Ireton&
.
dna by that theft masa. 'oast), in which thri:Pillep
was sulkiest le trona the pewit*: ad that In Brie
treastive the laserveedil het via" osfoteoL It ono only
yostordsy *albs had received letters informing him of the
peepatratlee of two oramders (is the ninety of iiilkeeey we
nadersteed) which eorrespoaded predeely with the shame-
tee of those horrible atrocities which had occurred la other
*arts of the estatty. One mos was that of a servant seen
leg • porderder farmer. who bad iseurred the displeasing of
the wriushed sod induced people. He had bete served with-
& seeks melte ftetleue intim service of his master, bat the,
eabrtanate Mae wee esthetes in kis determinatielf. sod the
Seat laemding he wire shot We're day by permute who had.
heal tyleg had wad fir him( Ile amid .inured), assure the
Illituan, that however mash Ms attendee of die Heyman's*
bilks* iscapistby anlnessoont nistety toprovidofor this
ndlY st Oe weil-dispond.and to answer the mils of
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,wfddiergeatry;irlieurpreprrty sail Ilvoswanetsfetsediatd
seiimieeyy dev'edillll.ll;lMlillfltltimideolartheerafl-
ktatioe of the to pbe alluded to by the Hight . Vosges.
able Sarawak sea et other net less important to the
Wires' sof the constry. Tate Noble Lord, at the herr
of the Irish Government, hid applied his great taleithi
most astxionsly and eacemingly to the investigallon ot
the catertsef ale subappy state of society is thntemetel
try. Even before be (Ilt: G.) leg the seat of fibre*
meld. thit•Noble Lord had proceeded b a. clogl"Ok
exteat in his inquiries ad Investigations.
the Right Honourable the Attortteptleiend sad
were absent attending to their duties in farliasseii;
difficulties of conananicatim, and a actatill
matins, were increased by the entire visffinlieentosejl
the Bovernisent falling upon that Noble Individeal. 14
under such circumstance, the Government bad hot cen-
tered to propose, or were not prepared with, nesasares
to remedy sachwast and deeply-rooted evils. IC enaM
am reasonably be imputed to a want of dispositton
desire. He assured the House that the tioveroment
had the whole of them topics under its most attentive
and anxious consideration; and when they Ovoid have
bad the requisite time for daly considering sod makint
up their minds upon the measures they should vailhass
mead. he should be prepared to state them to the HMIs;
and, he Waisted. not to give unsatisfactory reasons for
their necessity. He trusted also that they would be
etch as to remove the censures which the Right I lon.
Baronet would cast upon the Government. At the pre-
sent moment be was quite sure that it would he as in-
, politic as unjust to send out a Government under the
peculiar circumstances of the times, and not to give it
confidence even for doing its most paraueonot duty,
namely, that of attending to the best interests of the
people.—(Cheers.)—The Right Hon. Gentleman con-
clnded by moving the previous question.
Mr. N. CALVERT supported the original motion,
and expatiated on the natural advantages which Ireland
enjoyed, but which the gross mismanagement of,its tie;
remittent had rendered unproductive.
Mr. S. RICE felt that on an occasion of so mach bow
portlier@ it was the duty of every man to state the troth
and the whole truth. He was really quite at • loss to
conceive on what ground the Right Hon. she Chief Se-
cretary for Ireland could coomive that the Address pro-
rrpomd by his Right Hon. Friend comprehended any
stigma on the actual government of that country. But
even if it did, the House, as the representative if a free
people, were booed to see that they hail not been !ais-
les' in their legislation. The Right Hon. Secretary had
relieved him from the necessity of entering upon one
point which had been strongly urged when this subject
was last under discussion in that House. It was
then urged that the distresses and disturbances of
Ireland had originated with herself;—but now the
case wet altered I Dow the Right llononrable
Member eater forward and admitted that the distresses
and ,disturbances of Ireland arose from misgovernment—
(Hear, bear.) The Right Hon. ember luel to be sure
'taken rare to hat that miszMoveroment bad arisen
in ancient times; that it arose under former Kings and
former Governments. He (Mr. Rice) would sot now
go into the remote causes of the evil. lie maintained
that the treat mass of the pretest evils arose from mis-
government of a later date. For allowing that the feu-
dal rapacity of the first invaders. whose doctrine was
pleader and extermination had predated much evil, was
there any maa so silly as toconteed that • wise and en-
ilightette4 Otivernment,of sae or two centeries.or even of
30 years would not bb 'sufficient to Merril that evil.—
'Weer, It'ettr.) gentlismos would for • moment draw a
comparison between the present state of England and
Ireland, they *milli at onto be struck by 1W mete=
montrast ; indeed Heft contrast, is it regarded I
Was sufficient to excite feelings of horror in any think-
dag mind. It might he asked " what has redeemd thin
difference?" To this he aueweeed, that in Ragland
there waslbit so equal tßopeasation of the laws—es
equal distribution of justice. Every Englishmen felt

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Ireland had heeirthaw iisletistod whit HoPulial4tlMl_,r any ether sortisf pompertr.. *With rupee to the tyre* num co
of that eunstre. thew there .right blue beet Itcool"T, sjew eemplabsodedliwasihe.tlitlea brill 'collected be Mick
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east's* the Meter Ithsatioat. He wieitWe. ii *vet: tO trassferred from tither to honied property. They maw erosion
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