The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-01-22 00:00:00

FIIL §EATFSMAN.

of the kingdom—nbet had been the conduct. par-
sued by hi. Ministets ? the Orblit could
not fail to bear in mind, that daring the Ilre;t1y1 tee'
active life peehaps. of that gnat add good *en, obese
philanthropy and patriotitot only ceased 'Mb It, end
elbow name erue4d never be peeneetwollsy thew

whi studied his character sithatit adayration re.
'erotic', that whilit Stir Samoa! Rood y lived, the rt
forms nhich he sugpstid, when 'not Immediately op.
posed, received a tort of half support in that House.
*sly to be rejected in another plate.—(lieer, he sr!]
—ln elleding at the mete time to the subject of the
Catholic Claim,. it could not be denied that a 'try

large portion, ofsocifty conceited, that in the nine-
teropt century some reltaalion of laws past at so ro-
t:note a p►ried,'snd' under sach.dilferent circum-
stances, was iequlrtd by sound and enlightened
policy. Others andowhitally remained i f opinion
that the cootsnuatice of these laws in their present

force was one of the mein securities of the Constitethso;
bet in either view the subject sees clearly ane that ought
not to be treated with indifference. His Majesty's
Ministers, however affected a neutrality upon this
interesting mod important question. melting neither
to come to may errand mown thereeetees respect.
iug it, nor to tee any decided counsel to the Prince
their mister. Under a G rieernsneot conducted en

such principles, the country must he constantly es.
posed to dissinsions and internal danger, rind the
personal character of the Prince himself hroeght Into
odium and iferopite. The 0111.611. rs of the Crewe
had yet enabled their Royal Mater to appear
in a popular ljght, bet en the contrary, bad ens
gone an far as to stand between him and the Petitions
of his People. They bad on a recent occasion de.
dared, that their Royal Master had delegated to
them the discretionary fiords, of the best and most
personal prerogative of the Crown, that of mercy.—
fle might ask, too, whether they had supported the
dignity of the Royal Family, in bringing forward,
at the close of the last Pediment, prepositions which
that Parliament threw back indignantly in their teeth ?

[Near!) Their whole conduct ;as in direct opposition
to public opinion, whilst it tended to render the Es-
teem, power unpopular. A part of the power of
the 1 .ws consisted in respect fi r those who admi-
nistered them; bet how cnlld this feeling be enter.
gained towards thus. whoshowed any thing but re-

sped for one 'towhee ? The Government might en.
deavour to procure laws suited to their Owls per-
poses ; they might distort them, or violate them by
towing libellers IliffiSeltell; but such desperate re.
sauces coo:ti only bring disgrace spore the Quo,
se well as oppression on the subje.t. The lion. Gen.
demo, hourrer,hed a simple recipe for the care of
ell these eine; sod it nes in the harmony and onion
of all parties; or, la other words, in a perpetration
of the Heim at the sliiitie of these very Ministers.
Us himself certainly took a different view of what
was ',usury to the safety and interests of the
country, which appeased to him to require a very
different system of Admioistiation, sod could only
be effectually oseintalued by a firm and steady pile
, liey, neither trockliog to power on the one baud,
I nor yielding to clamour on the other; (aided wily
by a belief of what was right, and as assersuce of what I
I was mfr.—Ulcer, bear!]
Mr. SINCLAIR geoid not agree with the sip.
stews of hie Hen. Friend and Relative, those. bit
bowed to his superior gateau. His lion. Friend hod
taken a wide view of all the topics alluded to in the
Speech, as well as of many not touched on is it; and '
had commented with force and ity on all. lie
was rather itemised that his lion. Friend had not
embodied his opposition in en Amendment; sad at
fore tried Ike strength of lite two greet poetise said
to ems, in that House. Th. Hen. Geotlereseo do.
dated himself of no platy ; he was neither an ad.
herrn' of Opposition nor Ministere,but would give to
each his sapport as cnuacientiously he considered they
Wowed it. On the present occasion be considered
tie shoold be doing kis duty either by his Consti.-I
ewer.* or by the Public, if he wow to mob
lii: iPteri by opposition. lie should, therefore, give
the Adams Lie support.
Th. Hon. Mr. LLI V E said h. rose merely in con-
stqe-ne• of en a ;iosion mode by the lion. Gentleman
(Mr. Macdonald), which he could not coffer to pass
nooticeJ—he mound his elluvion to the esercice of
the memo: tint of mercy. la rho case open which
the (lon. Seeellensen's o!.servations were founded,
Lord Sidewalk bad re:eireil directiens to act as he
Phould think proper, but not before it had been fully
esamine . by the Privy Council, and their advice sanc-
tioned by the Prince Regent.
Mr. M ACDON ALD esplained. 11. had Needed
his flrlal i ~
g upon official &icemen's. A Petition hod
bee, transisitted from Liverpool, signed by at
beakers, on behalf of an atifortunste man, whose'
name he di.l not immediately recollect, but, who was!
then •nder sentence of death.- It *se addressed to
his Royal Highness, and conveyed totord Sidotooth
through the medium of the Right Hon. Geolleraw
(Mr. Canning). His Lordship's answer to the Right
Ilion. Gentleman was as follows :—se Sir, I have re.
edged your letter, containing • Petition to his Royal
highness the Prince Regent, praying for a respite of
1 the sentence upon three unfortunate men ordered for
esecoolon. A similar Petition has beets already for-
warded to his Royal Highness, end I have been ha.
moored by his commands to act in the mode most
consonant to my own feelings sod jodgment. It
wooid be unnecessary, therefore, even if time per-
mitted, to forward sit Petition kr his Royal High.
nese."

Mr CANNING was desirous of 'tiling tom of
the circenivances attending !ilia case, with regard
to which she Honourable Gentleman appeared to bate
• fallen intr.& osistakir,* slid relied WI the indulgence of
the House, that by so di ing be should not preclude
himself f•oin the right of sl.raking on the general
isehj et ut the Add, pis, if oho debate should be con-
tinued. The ca.e of Ilse pnfnitenate person referred
Ile, had esidt rgone a omit paints! arid attendee inves-
tigation before' fall Council. IP) whets no eitcont-
%taute of estenoation was osertoolteil prerkes to the
sentence being ordered be carried Into effect.
During the interval, knurlier, soirrst petitions were
presented, one of which, 311 • Natter of decorate,
' was laid before his Itisfai Nighties, the Princp Re-
I gent. It was nut till t' sets that a shiereilwairi slum.
tny was contoienicated to the Secretary .f Seto.
The Ilesse, hi was tiessesded, hod tot le lists
that briglit as the prerogative et &Ivey *al, It 011$1
virregatite which the Crowe sahrciteti spot tbe

site of it. responsible S4l;nisiorr. The opinion of
the Privy Gunnell bed been ',skew—it was recorded—
and time discretion of respiring or exPeotilig 11,0 .en.
qinca Wes laterwards seated in one of those ',von-
vible advisees: to the 'present ease, that Minister,
the discharge of the trust thus committed la him,•
bad seen no ground to justify a respite of the sem.•
tepee, and felt that to grant it would only be is es.
cite hopes that must iuevitably be frustrated. It alas
from a perfect knowledge that the prayer of the ap-
plication could not be complied with, end not finis
any oilduraty of feeling, that the Whine from
Liverpool had not been forwarded to his Royal
iligentes. He had himself assisted in the painful
consideration of this case before the Prior Council ;
but he thought it his duty to transmit the Petition to
Lord Sidniouth as he reeeleed it, and as if he had
been entirely ignorant of the subject. Some few
boors were lost by his accidentally sot adverting to
his post letters immediately Go their arrival, and be
mentioned this in order that the House should be
folly appriaed'of every circumstance le the slightest
&tree connected with the transaction.
Sir HENRY PARNELL recoiled that no pro.
sped was held forth in thetipeech, of a onion of his
Majesty's Protestant and Catholic subjects through-
out the Empite. Such a alai., would contribete
more to diffuse mil sal confidence and general happi•
nets than all the Treaties which were to be laid before
them. He called upon the Hoes* and upon the
country to recollect, that Mr. Pitt bad advocated
the deists of the Catholics, sad that it was owing
to his opinion that the question arose. Unless this
question should be settled, Ireland could never be
restored to peace and prosperity. This question
could rot too res.sted upon any just pletiple of po-
litical consistency or political modesty. When it
should be neat breaght berme the House, he hoped
that a more deliberate, a more serious, and a more
conceding view would be taken of it. The Catholics
themselves were most mappable in their claims, end
unanimous in their sentiments upon the subject. Ha
trusted, therefore, that the these would regard this
subject, not as an imitated and esimpertset ques-
tion, but as a question of the utmost importance to
the harmony and prosperity of all parta.of the Em.
Aire.
The SPEAKER now rose, and after stating the
question, read over the proposed Address.
Mr. 'FIERNEY said, be felt no disposition to,
offer any observations, after the very able speech
which had been delivered by his lion. Plead behind
hies.—[Rear, hear !] —All he wished, was to guard
himself against being ptecleded from animadverting
afterwards on any topic contained In the Speech, by
Wog supposed to agree to it merely because be did
not object to it. He considered it but fait to state,
et the same time, that the latter part of the Speech
appeared to him to contain general doctrines respect.
log public credit, which required the deepest cote
sideration before they should be elevated to. To
thit most important 'object he would take on ten,
oppertenity of calling the attention of the Hesse. if
no ether business should p t, he sow gave so.,
lice, that be would, on Tuesday, aid of February,
move for the appointment of a Committee to eit.
quire into the State of Public Credit, as connected
wieteetre Honk Paper System.
illse (motion was then pat and minim!, sod a
Ceibmitte• was named to prepare an Address in
I MSS of the Resoletlone now passed.
BANK tORGLRIF.S.
Sir J. MACINTOSH wished to ask the Right
Hon. Gentlemati, whether there was any Report
made by the Commission appointed last Session to
Esquire into the Means of Dmanifhing Forgeries on
Rank-notes ?
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER.
replied, that they had made a Report, that it bad
been laid before his Royal Highness, and that It
would be NM, so soon as the merge of business would
altow, before the Ileum
Sr J. MACIN rosu asked if any idea could be
given of the time?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that it would he in a few days.
ESTABLISHMENT.
Mr. TIERNEY said, ee understood something
was to be brought before ten !goose respecting the
care of the Royal Pomo ; bat whether the moody
of his Majesty's Person was to be the only topside.
rider, or whether the Establishment at Windsor was
to be considered, he did net know.
Tb. CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER
replied, that both the custody of his Majesty's per.
sea and the regulations of the Household would be
brought under the consideration of the House, and en
Tuesday nest his Noble I riend was to move a Reso.
lutists on the snhject.
Mr. TIERNEY said, that he had asked whether
the Windsor Establishumit was to be the subject of
consiti.ietion ? and to this the Right Hon. Gentlemen
had given no answer.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that the Windsor Establishment ha considered
to be that part of the Household Establishment which
was at Windsor.
Mr. TIERNEY asked whether the whole of the
Establishment at Windsor was to be submitted to the
House?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
sail, he was not prepared to *my whether It was or
not ; but his Noble Friend was to make a proposi-
tion on that subject.
The House edjoureed at Seven o'Cleck.