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a re?—Zan ga went into the house, and I remained
below until ZanFa returned.
After that did rou an.l Zanßa go again to another
honeet—Yes ; to the house of Jlajor Browne.
Ike von know a Major Browne and a Colonel Browne?
Are there two persons of that name know only tine.
I do not know whether he is a Colonel or a Major; I
lame net seen his brevet.
Did you know Colonel Browne?—l met him the nest
i Zona told me it wu
;Newt hint, did Zaoga and he speak to each
o.
they how to earl] other?—Yes.
the house you went to on the last occasion. the
in tke Ports Orientale?—lt was.

Zang' on that occasion go op stain?—Yes.
yaw go with him ?—I diJ nut.

lung did he remain up stairs ?—A quarter of an
ea he came out, 'ladle say thing with him ?—He
mindful of gold Napoleons.
*best of yonr jndgment, bow many gold
Napo-
Ithere he?-11e toll me 80. At seeing than,
ere must be 90.
yen mean 80 pieces, or 40 Napoleons)—There
0 llotible Napoleons.
• did he say to you at that time!
..:rtoiteer-tiarteest. objected to this question.
apprehended that although this inquiry was new
yet the inquiry would be, in some measure,
by the rules of evidence. The question was
contrary to those rules, because he did not sup.
at the other side would contend that they had
Zanga's agency, and then they could mot give
evidence Iris conversation with a third party.
ie. Ifft 'Aram eontended, that be might go into any evi.
• whirls Would have a teptiency to shew that there was a
=l::ey against the Queen. tbe evidence he and pro-
offer wits not a mere conversation. It was a step
'4 proving the tronspirnev. whit* from its nature, was
4 of arts apparently indifferent in themselves.
Tixost.t. supported Mr. Williams. He contended
circumstance now offered its evidence was a
.cite net. being one of s series of emu, from which
tasoint their Lordships would Wier, and necessarily
the mammies. of a conspiracy. in support of his ergo-
.
Ne Learned Oentiemrn referred to the ease of Stone,
tried for High Treason. In which case a letter not
by. or to the prisoner. wasmdmitted in evidence for
purpose of sheuing the acts of others with whom the pri-
-• was charged to have conspired.
e Arroixar-tiINSIIAL, In answer to the argument
the two last Learned ftentlemea, contended that the
admission of the evidence now offered, would lay a roan-
m fur the admission of all the rumours of Italy.
r Lordships would see the extent of the evidence
h they would let in if they permitted this evidence
heard. He felt it his duty to oppose it in !bailie,
luaission of it would assume the existence of a
Tact of which at present there had not been the
proof. It would therefore be too much to re-
p etidence end give his Learned Friend credit
Jng the conspiracy afterwards. The agency
was the ground-work of the proposed conspiracy
first be proved, or no man in the country would
The evidence now offered was, be sub
evidence not of facts but of rumours, opi-
. and reports; and he entreated their Lord-
'hips to pause before they would admit evidence of
description which could not be met. On behalf of
no: then before the House, on behalf of Colonel
and gibe advocate Vilmarcati, he did ask their
Loeilshipe to reject this evidence. It would he inad-
markt, to Omega sheep, teen if they were under trial
an Indictment, but ie tfie present nee It teas fo-
frets thi tinniness hi bawl, sod altogether lnad-
Ic every rule of law.
Beacons's fished to make a few observations.
was some noise In the House from some of the
cOng order.) Mr. Brougham, my Lord., I hope
1% shut all enquiry into this conspiracy.
'ua%CtlAollettold not see bow any thing that is
Zanga, after coming down stairs, can be re-
I evidence.
ffesetsra observed, that in a proceeding which
establish a conspiracy, they must first get an
, and then endeavour to bring it home. No
could tell what he ran acenmplieh until his
. have undergone an examination. 'I he very
evidence which he may produce can but consti-
isolated and he must proceed to connect
other links, until at last he may be enabled
fete a connected chain of etidence. In the
the King r. Hardy, Cur high treason, the pri-
wu charged with being engaged in a con-
dethrone the King and to subvert the Com-
o( these realms. What then was the first
the prosecution ? To prove the existence of
military charged in the indictment. How then was
• established bet by the acts and declare-
aU those engaged in a common design ? When
trial, be as Counsel asked for what object eri-
• tisat character was produced ? The answer he
, sad that he (Lord Erskine) now admitted to
law, waa, that it was necessary to establish by
links that a conspiracy existed, sad having
that fact, next to bring that home to the sc-
is the latter effort the prosecution failed;
not able to eopueet these nolo' with the ac-
and therefore the proseeation failed. It was
these grounds that be slionght their Lordship*
receive these declarations as links in the proof
4. ennapiTacy, but it did not therefore follow that a
**aneetion would he established between these facts
at,* CoodufssfUL Ertl "Tiltomes---*

!Art ha bad no Intention of pushing the ex-
m beyond ha proper bearing. or to consider
impressions and reports ai facts.
le Lots enanceLt.on referred their Lordships to
..sr 'dal of Hardy and others. for &conspiracy, to which
Inmeention he was employed. And lie endeavoured to
the opinion of the Chief Justice Weiler, who
case, and who we. as well acqnainted witb the
Al Lawns any man that ever lived, that lie pies.
was_ objtionable. That was his opinion, hut
r bormialps wished. they might have the opinioos
Adria.
Knauss replied. He was concerned in the
mens.t.on wished hi. Noble and Learned
would refer to his own argeoient on' that oeca-
few observations from EMI Grey, the House

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