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Mll'ol4olo, what wss said by a Measlier, for the sake. *lmola% thereforeeling mores that 11.41 L
!startle,/ odium upon him, or of tnalkionsly destroy- be timmittell to Newgate. And lethuflostea—alla"4,
Ini his ebaracter, then it Ras competent for the House tinned that proposition, he sbosld then mote thatlits
blt_, millet a punishment, not for the libel Open the Printer be likewise so dealt with. He should Ilan had,
Member, or upon itself, but fur the wanton violation some hesitation with respect to the Printer, if lit liptt
of Its privileges. That was, in his opinion, the most honestly given up the Editor without that entities attd
legitimate plan of proceeding in the present case.— prevarication with which is had insulted the Home,
What was the native of that ease ? This person stated With respect to the other, persons, be thew& their
that the Honourable Member bad u.ade an apology, evidence to be most disgraceful to them. Bat belted
of a naive which must have been a disgrace to him as not sufficiently examined it to found any priseseding
long as he lived. Ile (Mr. Scarlet° bad known that against
them. Perhaps some Hoe. Member who bad
Honourable Member for
wetly years, anl those who read it more attent'vel alight make a ropesition to
has, ohly kit 'wit him for a sho. ter period, would :tree the House, or ifs siLationas it regardat them might
with bite in affirming that it could be nothing bait a be adjourned until. their evidence was printesia aid ies
most base, a most atrocious attack upon his character. the hands of Members. Whilst he took this ismarae,
Willi revert to the explanation which had been given he wished at the same time to observe, that whosoever
by his Him. Friend, he thought it did him the great- ti,e privileges of the House were infringed, be toasted
eat credit. Fir, according to die imperfect manner they
rrntsliould nut be guided by the nutiuus of lets Hun.
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in iels their proceedings were reported, it frequently'
1 (Mr. Betmett), but proceed at once to vindicate
that misunderstandings took ;.lace; and so Itself by
hapits own potter. He then moved "That
far was he from agreeing with those who would hold Henry Fox Clapper, having avowed himself the *ether
themselves high and refuse to give an answer to any of a false and scandalous libel upon a Member of this
request loran explanation, that he deemed it the duty (louse, be committed to Newgate."
of any two, not only as a Meinher of that ilonse, but Mr. ItANKES simile a suggestion as to the form of
as a (lentleman, to make such explanation. The more the motion, which was nut distinctly heard in the ea,-
particularly ought lie to do so, Übe had unknowingly ler7.
bovi,ehnistlits,e ttuberantlits4olif
tehreraitgi,niugni.,pnatin. iii the breasts of lads-Sir W. HE I'RESPIGNY did tint ronceive that the
House was placed in nay awkward predicament hr his
or malice of others.
lion. Friend. the
lie felt that Lie thiuke were particularly slue to Isis Member for Shrews/very. lie did not
Hon. Friend for having brought the subje.a loefoire believe that the wretches who had appeared at the 11,1.
were the authors of the paper, and hoped, that if there
the lieut..; because since that was done he had looked were others behind the screen, they mould be speedily
:Lt tl:e paper in queetits, and he coasialereti it Ono. exposed.
istely nec:.ss try, 'or the preservation of the character Loral NUGENT conaidered that the thanks of the
.and ili,:a:ty of the House, that it sh .old he noti.-ed. House were slue to the Noble Marquess for his motion
de had hear:l romours that the Paper W. 1% Pll pp.,rt e el t.,:lrerulaije:gutivilainrdinerileilsadisoitnjniungi..l,ttln'astgioiriesaesitutie„toatteinota,iiib,eleaillobiuLutel:t:4l.;.,
by persons of more cunwpience dial those whons they and
ha I seen at the Bac. It was even at atel that persons placed in any dilemma from which it mantel net extri-
a oat is ere worthy, or rasher lie •laaastld say, ulso r.ere cute Itself but by the course recommended by his lion.
sineuctlsy of seats its that Howie, w •re employed in Friend. On the contrary, they hail alreedy been its
tell ug the arsieire that appeared in it. Ile was glad hall a dilmma in the early permit of the Session, mot
extrice attal themaely:.s wstlsont adopting sucli o
on that arcount that the subject had been before them ;
roarer. The.. Noble Lord. alludes! to the Address to his
heeaase as tar As the words of the persoes who had Majesty, whirls appeared in the tsarette, from the Prc..
h.,en eltattiiitegi u mail go, these had at leant '114(.4a5-errs:l t,‘ tar ;,1 Langlitalme. A ifer.SSer ur a more flagrant
the *4.lltee of the ilfautoms I,lschmels %Ilia+ had been breach of she privile,es of the Itouse than that teas cossid
published. It tea Hut his ol jet to submit any m ,lion scarcely he isnaeined ; and compared with which, an a:-
to the liouee, lost lie must scetainlv vote against that task Noon an individual \tension most almost sink into
alai* Iloa. Friend. insignlicance. Upon that occasion the House passel
ios:er the insult offered to it, upon the premise of tit !
Mr G. Iir.NNE.T said, that ii, bringing forward the Noh'e Marquess (which uas afterwards retained in .4
‘1111:11-Ct, he Itch dune what lie conceiv.al to be his duty. MOM hAllth..liite mantra) that an apology should be
:1, he hail helms• sail, he li.:-t C insider: al the neces- made from time Secret ire of State's Om. e, where the
site of clearing his town character, and next, the pos. Addrese had been retaliated to appear in the Gazette by
silaility of discovering to the house who was the no- mistake. had
slid think that if the Home ptneeetleal la
tioor of Cle libel. 11,,,e„.z. doom that, tar , lecte.,l ,hA ail upon the motion of Isis lion. Priem', it would ha
t
is, o..ess, whirls he thought, accordisso. to his own grin-anosteevere awl injurious towards
le such poor wretch, s
csinithietiisip4revariiss.isseting printer. TI Nohle Lord I.?aa-
viples, would he the swat proper. !Perhaps lie was as an ansenduiesst, "That Henry k ~.c
wrong in the view he ha 1 taken ; but he had taken it cooper he called to the star of the House, repriusiadeo,
honestly and coaecientioasly. .\t the 'sine time, hr and discharge,!."
nov raw the ohjeclona whirls had been pointed oat The Marquess of I.ONDONHBRRY said, that
bp Jtiatiost. Friend. He saw the advantages be had aneiens as he was to avoid every breach of the prin.
gaitsed by the examination of tote partiee, if they ciples of justice, he was not less alive to the privileges
were tent to trial. He would confess openly, that Ise of the House. He was desirous that the decision of
had gained these advantages ; and upon that ground the House should combine mercy with justice; ail
he hegeed leave to withdraw hit motion. lie therefore lamented that the lion. and Learned
Sir K. FP:KM-SON expreiseil his satisfaction at Gentleman opposite bad thrown so much of temper
his Hen. Friend's having coaetosted to withdraw him into his speech. Ile had referred to quarters to uhisla
proposition. He was glad that be ha.! done so, be. the speculations of V:c world might apply the par..
cause he thought that persons who had been belay graph in sistestion.—(flear, hear.)—No mats cot.:•1
them, should receive no penislimeet whatever ; and feel more indienseion titan he did against the assail-
if any proposition were made tar committing them t a ants of the virtue of our woolen. He had read the
Netri:iste, be for one SlUsaid vote against It. The oode nen epaper in question, and if that were an offence Itc
object A' his lion. Friend, hat beet to rescue his own certainly must admit himself to he guil'y of it : la tt
eharactrw from the fool anal false aspersions that bad it was not because I e read the paper that he felt lite
beets cast spun it. Ile (Sir It Fe.-gssa.es) did not think its.:ign stion at the principles which it disseminated.
:hat even that was irces•lary ; but he was aware bow me present care was analogous to that which (steam .1
.ready evety Ulan Mast feel when hit honour was ..1- in the llomie on the 19th of June, 11419, upon 0.1".1.
tacked. The four who hal been before the Hole' had sine ef ail attach which bad appeared in a Newspaeer
sufficiently exposed thProselre4. Tim-y hid given e‘i- agaiust a Hight lion. Friend of his, now abseett 1:1 I
skater of which no man would be:ieve tole word ,to be here he was rompeleil t ) observe, that while a who.l
trate; and the reflecting part of the world would see torrent of labels iasarel out against the iliebest elsare.:-
that there was the same degree of troth in their Ma- tees, there appeared little disposition on the other ti .e
mous publication. He wished he could believe that of the House to punish their authors. Indeed, titers
the pc..eon whom they had seen was the reit anal was saris a strong, desire to punish political enetuiee.
snly author of the paper. It was a new era in the , and to shield political friends. The libel he refersed
history of this coo ttry, when a paper was established to, chareol his Right Hon. Friend with delighting la
ier blasting the fame of virtuous women ate.- their i the suffering, of his fellow-creatures. If on that oe-
deatli.—tt'heees.)—llut it was a still newer era m.:.-:. 1 -a,ini be had seen the holignation of the other site
Inch a paper shauld find an !
aporters.—(Cheers.)—ite of the Howe as strongly marked as it was on the prc-
had seen some articles in the parer which he believed 'eta!, he aloud! have made every allowance fur Ye
mast have come dual higher vartcrs than 6 ale presrt:t indigilatiesn. However, he still thonelit that
wretch" mut wain/Innate toes. 'Ilt• men who could the Moose would let down their privileges if they cod
1 sorrel sec:i conduct were the most base, the ma oar not mark their sun-e cf the libel before them ; ate!,
worthless—he could not find etpmisions for Ms 14 as on the nue hand; he coesidered the amendment c f
fogs—they were the most cowardly ass,o;sies. It• the Noble Lord too mild a course, so, on the otle.:.
hoped thy waul I he brought to light, and receive the thung'itoiginal motion of the Hon. Member f w
pesti.haseut which they so richly deserve!. 1111!ltilfl too cr•rere. Keeping therefore in view the
lie. 11A it! Xt.; thought t 0..: his Hon. Fri en 1 had ease of Tic Times newspaper, to which he had alluded,
left the lionse in a.l :v..% art predicament by r:1,11• he sioionlot fellow the coarse taken by the House on
tirawingLiipropo.:tio.:, ..t:tlzotttsubetitutittz sue ts.ing that ....:•asion. and M3Vit as a funlier aniendnseat,
else 11. its place. Such aO. . g having (eye h •en taikest " That Ile Pox Cooperbe comtnitted to the custotiy
eati,•:.. of, and held up, as it oeserved, as a mast zross lof the Serjeint at Aram" The Noble Lord Coca
lead Jaring insult twit the Honer. to he then Ici: ,0 in ote,l, :hat the Clerk should read from the Joan's,.
r..., n stboot puuifh oeat wonld he ''caving it to l.e sup- the Report of the proceeding: of the House, on the
postal out of doors, that the House siiirlat h.., iastilted 1911 of doly lON, respecting The Times newspaper.
by an‘ body with itupanirv. He ha I t very . t ie. floe 'I lee Clerk accordinglyh refMrerred t the J
the Printeournals. byr
to pre :ceil by prese..atioes, on atatoaut of the 416- which it appeared, "Tat .C. Hell,
mettlesl,l,:hbad been bef.P.l' ~tilt Ari. Tile) Li ell there of sae Times reworking,. being called to the Bar of
iv.•re , ,toe Ihni. Menshcra nho •Ii I not care for the pri- the limose. Mated, that he had received the paragrepts
vileges of that 110,14 e, he traced that there was a meta- then ander eiresideration from Mr.. Collier ; and that
‘jority who did, and who b:li•we.l, that with those WI 'Mr. Collier being called to the liar, admitted that he
visege, the liberties of the cou.itry wool! cease to 'Et- -vas the author of the void paragraph. 'I hat time
let. Ile c told not, :Iterefore, commut to leave the ifon:a ere reeolved that slis
saki .paratttapb
sionse in the situation in witiela it was then plare.l.—; which' usleeeeteet a Speech.usadikhg a Member of
He slaool4l suggest a course which he thought *amid she House wets a scavelatoiss libel, 'sat ~a. aggravated
Ise the best they could placate smiler the cir.uustariees breach ef the privileoes et the Hisoota ead that Mr.
, 4 the CAW. At the some time he was anxious to say. Collisir having -admitted taisse/1111. ltit.thie sailor of
That he should never with to prevent t. ee obserratiumt 'the same, be' eistionittod to the cossody ot tic
Satjeaah
upon what fell from Menthera of that Mese, so bet;; as Anne." . . , . ... . .
as it was kept nithiit fair limits; because lie eonside 1 ' Lord NIAIIIENT raplaised.
~at that it was not only bessetcial to thetuselvei, bbt Mr. liCilliloßri -*aid. dna if any titinaiintloak
;ikenise to , char:. aof the House itself: Ile 'of party *wit*, It 'was abet ars mwitiskirelPhsan
•
se take Notice sem AI an eau *emu •bPilsit Nolois Unitittraitappolhht.as4; it any
bat where than was a mmHg.; thiaj in* bean aaiii• boas she. proems Anostilati. Ultit-
' the. ptityaitt.-nthisitiltoil eitliVof itatity4e4WW h "%sailed • ba(111b. Stfailasa)
. ' terAt :without iite i lite' 144titiail. thiliattiima •iMe i bid Mast ttlitliate
Vishay iaittvi tn'prbet44fivo *MO.& `l6l4lpleStllmilest4tneelfartattra att.ii wino
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sarilts tdlppaditre :‘ 114 'Witte Vast iinadlthfinit•tallkais,it. -,.Witi,aa.,

fished ootlioells. WI
—PSENCP. OF SHRIMPS.
mO3l the Increasing demand of this mei) aft.
ired Magee for atl mph' of Fish. &e. it lag Indus./
tie AuPtirior_2lF4RY PnW ELL, et his Whdissihreil
wits
tog % warehouse. M. Newgata-street. (where 11111
,Prude mai he supplied with this and all other Gewliwa
tialstr,Pieklet, &c) In retnrn his most grateful aeltnew-
Wisest% to the Public for their kind patronage, and at the
rape time begs Ips.to acquaint tlnna that it is sold by alt
WOO asto Dalian Warehouses in London, and by one or
Wore rapoilablo agents ili every tbsra throughout the
away* gada it Rat naless shyoed **Disusere sad
lljuk"' sod the Proprietors' seal on the Cork.
To Wert:Mats. Captains. unit others, It it rarticukriy re-
essiended for shipping, as it is warranted to keep In may
allarde.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—Pataav, Mat 11.
On the motion of the &+r! of Rt. GERMAIN'S the
Glerawley Divorce Bill was read a third time, passed
and sent to the Commons.
• Mr. I.lnoeoeu, Mr. M. A. TAYLOR, and others.
brought up from the Commons the following Bills
The Dublin Gas Light Incorporation BM, the Stem
Engine Smoke-consumption Bill, the Chichester Puller
Bill, the Westminster Improvement Bill. the Conway
Bridge Bill, sad the Mile- Elsa Gas Light Etta.--Roods
a first date.
Sir HENUT PAaNnt. brought np a message, an-
nouncing that the Commons had agreed to the amend-
ments made by their Lordships in the Holyhead Rood

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mar approach of the Drawing' of the LOT-
TTa BRY. and the whole of the 1,007 Prizes to be eh,
cled in Om Day,
NEST TIirRSD %V,
bullies J. sod J. SIVEWR MINT. the Contractors, to sell.
riltheir friends to be immediate in th..ir applications. TM
Hes of Adventure been only half what has usually beet.
lies unloved many persons to intil.e doable purchases, which
Ms smiaristly tneromed the demand, and makes it impera-
tives* those who intend to adventure to do it instne,liatel
as J. and J. 8. would be very sarry to see any of their old
pairsoodisappointed of Charmer.
TICKET 0n1y... • 114 14 0
Sixteenth only Twenty Shillings.
TWO of 121.000!
And 4,oo3other Capitals and Prires. with 11.10 Extra Chasms
for gaining
TWO of.. .1'10.200
Mat an he Drown is One Day, nest Titt•RIDAY.
Whets and Shares are Selling by J. ant J. SIVF-
WRIGHT, Contractors, 3i, Cornhill: 11, Dollsorn: 3P,
Hqwgrket • where they said in the Two last Contracts,
Askant 241.000 Pitta's! also. 2033. ((lass IN) 121000!

PRIVILEGRit.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presente.l a Report
from the Committee of Privileges, swine that John,
Earl of Portarlingtou had :naile good his claim to vote
for the Election of Irish Representative Peers.
The South London Gas Light and Coke Bill was read
a second tlote.—Adjottrned till Monday.

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