The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-12-03 00:00:00

LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 3, 1819

" The (nose for which 114sonsw fell Is the Field, end STDr.O died on the Sc!fold! "

IF YOU WERE TOO LATE for a Ticket .r
!Aare for Firm Dan Drawl**, alriag b. the great
wood, Ima are adeLed to grille ea early parebese far the Neat
Day, sod
YOU MAT RE IN TINE
Far the great agyeatager it Wren. Too Pnse* at tilled are
ewe to be deelded by the Toe Fi..i Prise% al ski ir
Ia tee First Fite ilkanirs. Them are still andrawn
SIX PRIZKS OF 2110.01,0,
Newlin ether CA PI !A LS. oblell mill all GM to the ON wf the
Five Tbmaraml Tatra, sew aa Oak, sad wbleb wits all Or
drama INS tM Wit Day or Drew iv.
NEXT THURSDAY. Sib DRC F.OI BP.R.
The last time obese were Six of ISMS ( • Yea the reseal
Cow ...1w bad the *omen).
BIRR SOLD Tint ME OF t'All,fluU ALL IS 911 A RF.III
which errs diatelkaled all ever the Dolled Riagilea.
Ticker, aril Abate', warreated earraen. are genies by
T. FISH. Stork-bmarr, 4, Cefflllllll, 01111 9, Challad•crado,
Lapdog s aledily his *gears is the Canseerr.
stsorii... already 1441 rt.! C.spitah in the mama
Lamas, t his Airest Liartpant. saki put Dar of the
Altl,ooo Prises, dams rhe TIM Day s aen hi• Aral at Ea.
burgh. grid part of the other Prior at 1,10,00k1 as the rune
Day.

his betided seviction that leniency was always I.
klipethifird ie perslties to Overby. it was passible
that many persons might not qappird to kite* tbe
ea-
tore of the laws, if passed; they might attend it I
shillings hers mere cariosity. sod thus be ensured.
Dee warning 'nit to be gine to the people before
lb, were liken op. lint ihit stocerbily 'silted tor
Its presto! Bills, shim illegal assemblies of all de.
seripiions might be disperser' by the Illagiorates In
fists rf the Common tAe l Wish regard to the
second of this series of Bills, to empower the Ma-
*josh.s to seize open arms ; this, although local,
sod they were to hop. temporary, on a meager, of
rest nitpicks. Besides. be could neon bring him-
mlf to belierre.tbe preamble of the Bill, which stated;
That whereas arms were collecting in certain parts,
fir Illegal ends, It was seesnary to empower Nag's-
teems sad others !wools all weapons of .Reece I.
Their Lordships went friend to newish. ,
Mb it:osaidselmrs on whet Tens& it was essierseeptbat
arms sad weapons, •d satins. kinds, had heed col-
lected, and nen still stored, iss pins of tire
kingdom. for designs sod purposes most daogyrons le
the public. They were, he Maintained, bound la
consistenry to rain this before they authorised
any sot of person., no the idea of rupeslietacy, ores
with the testimony of witnesses no oath, to Issas
their warrants to eels, sects arms. by day or ►y West,
and by male fors. Ile at pre►errt citadel not assent
to t►is preamble of the Ball, Bee even be Lon!
Lieemeant of one of the Carotin, the Elul of Der-
by, kad doubile.s arms and woapeos in his own
Meese; and were those to be mixed? Ile ohjoetorl
to soot►er douse, which related so law processes for
sets dos by ae•hority In persons of ibis Bill,
which west to saddle the pleintif with double costs.
Tim subjects of this kingdom sore enliuled to arms
far their persons' protection, and ought not to bit
disarmed on suspicious grounds. Ile objected to
these Bills.

VA 1.0 A SLR LltAtlt /VOLD PR F. f*E4. is
•• Me Ike of the Wegner Kew M(•eei, rlutite Is.
War,*lmmet. Oulremiquare. Ear she reJ annum serer of
Ike vent. 2,11 ore rouses hem Chrimma. neat of itom unkoulute
Prenthe.. of km Imam on .at /err, at tie law rem .4 lU.A.
to usurer truants M a pm Meow, t sad If mu !Ad b 1
mar Comnirt.
WILL BE SOLO BY AUCTION.
B. /4•.COCIIRAN,
Os WONOA Y. the tish of December, 1119, at Mr. wiheme.
The er Crosprms.K mtut nret, Golden-m.Bam, as Os • so'Clrrts
Per Plink elkti wad le %ie. arrow h. Mr. Arrostull. IJ.
Inn-sum.srei or to the &mummer, 7, Dele•dreet, Grw
ea.r.wrogire.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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HOUSE Or LORDS. Um. I.

Mr. Horan. Ids. the East ladidlosse. prdridea at the her
the Assisi Areas' ..f the company far
anosioo ..f Salaries. Prided, sad tireismies.—Ordered to Ile
apes the table.
CRIMINAL INFORMATIONS.
The Marquis LA NSDOW N tent is re...pewee of
what had f...les frees a Noble Feared of Lk (Fail at Livel-
y...ls eisodite, is a former Mad. be w shed le make a swims.
SO a Mel be awder.le.d there asuld be b.. Owl. Ili. N...
hhr Fisted had staled, that a oesalser of sideedatiod had at
digest* tides been Sled. or were So emeteosplaskes s• be Sled,
by the Astosney.Cieorrol. whkh, ust ardaust of the drip.* rr
mato of the laws. were ahoodaned er had failed. Ile shoeid
therefare .are for a ketone( she .umber of Ei-oor it lo Oa-
f sardines Sled h at. Majrsio's Athasedlletlesssi ag.ia.t d-
ilutes. nod paddies/Is.. den. p she iwt. sears
Jill tad Isl 9. sortifsiag she dates oath udedwasisso., where
tried, nod the oddie a had th •et.up..a.
Lard HOLLAND here reigessed that It sesta, a. he rat.
edged. cursed and Iraydwe hue abject of his Nellie Eneud. if
lbs 11111Niali aria major m. tar use spec.'s us to laded( the
yeses estresart. floe 1110, sad eibbiaa Wag ea seta... at per
orredirow .1111 'wading.
The FAH of LI VER POOL ossr as obledino Is the awitlon
of the N dde blesqad (Lssdasso) a. una.snlly mole. He
wished thus se mewl, red Mitre I. heeds by do Noble RIM.
(11011aad) of hi. additiaosi dotion tweadsow, sty des oust
I a...oddest 10 MM.

Tao End .1 110531.1rN Moe n. that the anniain should
catmint...omb iinetelMil•lMlll Mad a►e. Owe in *wined.
Miff See it ref.. IV ask Jnetnnker the 110111. f. She Mar.
quit of Lad-. 11.1.1 amine was &yard ea. a..d Ltd Hollandre
rfet ed.

DRILLING AND FIRE-ARYL.
Viscount SI 'MOUTH, ea Ike Order of the Dry
brig read, nbrerred, that as the principle of the
measures it was his duty to urge upon their Lordships,
had usidergoo no mach discussion on a former night,
he should Hot trespass at airy length spun their at.
tentless. Their Lordships had ordered that toe of
the Bills, alcaleted In carry these measures Into
effect, shoald now be read a second time. He bed
stated so folly the grounds upon which time Bills
were apt r odeceJ, that it was quite no 444 y to
restate them at the present time, or, indeed, to
enter into any further esplanation of them. It would,
however, be friend, *pm, referring to the Sld of this
King, that the present 1101 s contained the praisions
of that Act, which was framed and passed in conic-
goatees of disturbances that arose in certain counties
for the destruction of machinery. The very same
Act contained a class. aetheeising the leisure of
sans, though far more rigorous then that proposed
by ibis present Bill. While be felt it unnecessary to
re-state the ground. upon which the Bills had been
proposed, be begged to assure their Lordships that the
information received by Government sobsegantly to
the introdection of the prams. measures, hid strength-
semi the conviction of their enmity. Drilling sad
training were estended eel likely to emend in the
disturbed ports wkiltrelreordinary efforts workmaking
to proms weapons of offence by the disaffected. Ile
should abstain frees saying more at the present stage,
end merely move that the Bill to prevent Drilling and
Training be now reed a mend time,
Loral ERSKINE said, that he always had coml.
decal the 52d of the King, which the Noble Via.
cruet alluded to, as an imperious measure, for ao.
thing could be more irrational or mischi than
bodies of mar proceeding to destroy that machinery
which had beneG•ed the cosalry so largely. Bat the
present was a different case. With regard to the
Bill just moved by the Noble Viscount, its best
feature war, es be understood it, that it was local
and temporary.--(Here the No616.11(1 Learned Lord
was interrepted by Viscount Sidewalk, who replan.
al thet local and temporary were terms net appli-
cable to the present Bill, but only to the second for
the seizure of arms.)—Well, upon the Noble Vit.
caret's own shoeing, if se, his objection to the pre.
sad Bill was stronger than ever. Nn men felt more
inimical thou himself to metier recesses, bet outrage
was not always to be wet with outrage; and in hit
opinion less severe measeres were likely Is be mere
effectual ones. it might have been su*cient to have
made the offence of drilling end training a misde-
, entanea, soil ',Rhein inflicting the portiehmeat of
banishment or traitsportatioe. hare left she metier to
the discretion of the Court. From a sag expellent,
of the laws sad the adatioisttetieu et Ikea, it tees

Lord 1.1 LFORD said, that the last Noble Lord,
greatly to his surprise, hail not greed on the panel.
plea the Bills •odor discussion. Ile •ished, for
few minutes, to call the attention of their Lordships
to the 'violence furnished to the ;moots now upon the
talent their Moose, which, be hesitated not bony,
furnished grounds for the adoption of measures mere
rigorous than those conteined in the Bills r.oprobsted
by the lest Noble Lord. Ile would direct their
Lorolabips mare particolsoly t• the evidence at page
47 of the printed Minutes. Some Noble Lords ob-
jected to a considerable pert of the idernierion as
cosine in an sn•nyntoes shop., but in what other
shape rook! information in such cases tome ? Every
port of that supplied by Mr. Minsk, one of the ble-
&rates at Meachinter, was entitled to greet credit ;
be knew the person* who signed the papery, and if
known to Noble Leeds oppolite, he ass himself
Ole certain their Lordship, would credit them. As,
however, the principle of the 'onset" •sea not ob-
jected i• by the Noble Lord (Erskine), he would not
detain then Lordships in in present stage.
Lord ERSKINE, in esplanstion, reminded their
Lordships that in 1794, slmi:ar inlay-nation had given
rite to indictments *Loch afterwsrds fell to the ground.
The infoimation then, vi in the present use, satis-
fied Parliament, but it (sited to convince a Jury, or
to satisfy the country. 1S hat he was anain•s for,
in all such cams, us, to soo- moon fire to fare, to es.
amine them, and If, evrealin if they were credible
or nut. Misers, or apt-. of any kind, might for-
nish the infoorination. W ion he looked et the pre-
sent Bills in the eggregete, he could not help saying,
that he saw hoe little like E•sgisnd would England
be whenever they wined into Isles; and, therefore,
be felo the almost disgust s. them.
'l•he 1.01(1) CIIANCELI.OR, nice, that us the
Noble and !owned l.•nd (Etikitse) lied thought
proper to retest 'sack to the period of 1794, nod the
ttioli for Dig*. T in that year, Ise owl under
of troohliog their Loid.oipi eith on.
•r Sweohveve.tiaos,llol noir on the. but Win.,
points. 'When, holding the oilnellon of Attorney.
Gowns!, he foetid it his duty in file informations for
the trial •f the are•sed, he geoid now assure their
linrJohipr, that he did not then proceed to Ott upon the
Reports of the Ilouseof Pailisairost as such, bet upon
the evidence laid before him, and an 'lamination of

occurrences. Se numb for his conduct at that time,
The Noble and Leveed Lord had also said what
would England be, if the Hilts new proposed to their
Lordships shoed become la•s; bat be (Lord Eldon)
would ask their Lordships, in wort., what would
&gland be unless the present Bills were passed, end
that speedily tee?—(!leer, beer!]—But the Noble
end Learned Lord had not objected to the principle
of the Bills. With reused to ...pons being coneys!.
ed ter pups's., offensive to the Stale, it *ever could
be seppeted that erns not so secreted In be se em-
ployed were contemplated by the present Bill. Ile
remembered well being in the Hues* of Commons on
that memorable night when Mr. BA, thtew down
a dagger on the deer, while quitting the opposite side,
and he believed be knew where that d tiger now war ;
it certainly was net in the pmbession of persons who
were likely I. employ it against the public peace; it
was reserved and cherished ea a 'remodel of the ii
lestriees msn who produced it. to be transmitted in
f lain from father to inn. Weapons so
kept, or for any fair sad lawful perpese, in responsi-
ble heads, were net likely to be seized by the Jet.
tices er Magistrates of this country. But if it could
be preyed that persons were training, sod arming fur
the purpose slated by the papers on the tette, be
would most distinctly end unequivocally say, whirl-
-4155, were the npiniona to the contrary held In that
Heine or elsewhere, that such training and arming
.411 'Hither more nr leis than OM ovort eel ail
high ileason•—(lfror, heir!)—lf, be souk! repeal
it, any set of wen, huriewer 11•111t1110, Were aiming
by a display of t` physical force" to ilwmillale the
Government, in snider to bring shout an alteration in
the Constileti .... that was in reality an orris act of
ttestuu. God forbid that the autism to be ":1.411.1