The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-06-09 00:00:00

according to the provisions of the NavigallettAct,
from tl 0 tuivilree3 of 13i. ish :him.
Mr. GRANT thought the honorable Gentleman,
bad laboured bard to make the worse appear the
better reason, lie had quoted Reports of the Court
of Directors to support a doodle contrary to. the,
obvious intention and scope of those Reports. The
Court of Directors had never any particular objac..,
'ion to teak ships more than to other shi; 3 ; but
their objection wes to admitting any title., stir sifo:
the participation of their rights. He conceiver, that
the clew proposed by the. Honourable (4,110.- ,an
:would Pave the effect of !taking away the Char err
from the Company, and giving them up, bound hand
hod foot, into the power of a few ship-builders om
tire River Thames. His isrgument -went upon the, .
fallacious supposition, that if this Bill were to pant,
all the ships to be employed in the trade for the fue,
ture would come from India. The only conseqnence
would be, that the Company would not be left entirely
at the mercy of about half a dozen ship-builders on
the. River Thames, to be charged whatever rotor.
bitagt.prige they thought proper. Its IM, the price.
they ",charged was 141. a ton. In
.1800 it wee.
191. 10s.; but after 1805,,it, went from 251. t 04.71,1.4
per km The price of wakes, wbich.o.,in 179,3 tram,
4s. Bd. e.dity, bad afterwards got up to ;Js. anikeeloA
to Ws. if those men chose to idle three dry e le,
the week, It uas the East InAia Commis/Ilea moss,
pay for it. For a lung perked of tirmi-lise Comiatteei,
had been entirely at the mercy of the ship-dit'ilicle* -
of. the River Thames. The power of building*"
hi ludic had certainly rendered them some% baL,merei
independent of them. huh*, however, hid riot (kg
means or resources, nor wpold it have fore leeg tbne,.
of finding tonnage equal to the t!emands,oflosemeece..
lie believed that Qut of,the last 79 ships, .13.0e1y hid
been (wilt in ludia. As thebuilding.for Indiaarea tires,
above a third of the .whole bosinesa of 11)..skil/a
builders in the Titeyeets,l4 gran going tee At; lki; qv,
would
that their trade be anuilsilated, eyep,Rito
whole of the East belie business was wig As"
from them. There was no reason, howerer,'itp,
doubt but that they would for a langstiopte 'save bly;
much the greater part of (heir business. When the-
Worthy Alderman (Alderman Atkin.) had, spoken,
of the number of ship-wrights tlvrt would be threseta,
out of employ, he must ohse: ye thiit he believed thp.
wPstle.outmber of ship-hyiehla in the Thames did not:
exceed 4500, and that 400 tow qeite 4300 of these).
were 41 that were ever eft pluyed
_its .beildjog ship.
for the. East India Compasig, NVere ail theAsat in.
• terests of the Company to. be. then sacriic to the
'interest of a Very small number of stop-budder' and
1 ship-wrights outbeTbasues ? AB that these peptone
!could cow complain *f, ire', that their monopoly
I would be .affected by introdircing a serZ" elem.:
: petition. It was a most mintaken idea Its eettcelve
I that India ought to be governed at all like * polony.
It was a great and populous empire, rich in arta aeti
manufactures when we first came there; it Would;
he' therefore, most uujust to prevent them events%
themselves of their natural advantages. It Tumid bp,
also most impolitic for this country to refueettellt*
itself of the advantages that their great! faszletsietet
forded for ship-building. As to the appieitemson.nt .
the Indium *unlit% a great maritime natiou,,le
must be recellected,shat of all the,classes of ['Wiens
it was only the blahometans that.ever became seileVlN,
and therefore the lireiati sailers could only be to
..
from among those Malurtnetans that happened._
live near the sea coasts. As to what bad been sa
about the probability of a Revolution in Ind*, b
kei
considered that our Government was now QUlre
confirmed and stable than at airy former period.
• Mr. PIA 1111 VAT, iu explanation, said, that hie
clause did not at all respect the ships employed in the
1 trade between. India and this country, but had only,
reference to the trade with. China„ the menopoli of
I whirl' was allowed to bo A goat advantage to .the
•1 Company. , , ..
Mr. Alderman ATKINS observed, that * ler.
veyors of the India C rinpany exercised the right of
I survey as to. the materials of the ships built for them
In thrariver.Thatites, as strictly as it was exercised
on the part of the Royal Navy. The greet inerea 40
in the price of ship-building hnd not proceeded from
!eny t %orbit:int demands on the -.ship.boilders but
from the great price to which (torten timber hod froen
raised, from our being excluded from tire trade, 14
I the Continent. ...4s to the
_price of latstrar,. the. wag
had raised the votive of .. awl gl4l of tpaa's la
.pot
i ip the same,proportien !het, btbeeVieles :we :e
After a few observations tispi Xr. P. &wpm
. wnd Mr. FORBES,
Tl).ouseidividyd
OT the slai6 P.
• Against It ' ..
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On nor re.admi..sion into the Gallery,.
•Sir-C-.110141.: was moving an amendment in a oleos
on the Bill respecting the navigation of ships to and
from India. TM' original clause was, that there
should be five British fi“.11011 employed for every ton
of shipping below GOO tons. The amendment be
moved was, that instead of five, the word seven
should be inserted. This even would not come up to
the provisions of the Navigation Art, which required
three-fourths of the crew to be British.

This amendment gave rise to a pretty long tarmac.
lotion, and was finally carried in the affirmative.
Some other clauses were introduced, and the all
was ordered to be engrossed.
On the motive► of Mr. FAWCETT, it was or,
tiered, that a copy should be laid before the noose of
the Memorial presented to the Lords of the Treasury
on the Roth of February, 1815, by the Merchants
and Agente‘treding to India, respecting ship levers.
Th. other Orders of the Day were then dkruseil
of.—Adjourned.