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tion, neither did he altogether approve or lbw Ob.
vious question, bet was anxious that. the Resolu.
tion should be withdrawn.
After Strangers were excluded, and before the
divisiou, we understand a very interesting conscr-
cation arose, to the following effect :
Mr. BA BING'VON said, that he could •,not
as to the previous question. He was satisfied
there was blame, and he thought it sufficiently ex,
pressed iii the preceding Resolution, theivfore he
mi.clit think the additional censure slow proposed
superfluous; but the previous question was in-
consistent w ith the censure alrestly expressed, and
he could nut vote that was inconsistent will) that.
[near! hearn lie wished the Itescilition to be
withdraws), but if not be must Supportit.
Mr. WILBERFORCE 'differed -witty 111. Una.
Fiiendeand.conceived the prorious,qeestiors.vsly
meant that the House thought it. had sufficiently
mewed the cunduet of dm Ordnance in"iite for.:
mer It.esolntions. lie ihotight fleet toittlittt well
deserving of censure; and therefore sup.
ported the Resolution to that •;Ifoct. • tlatingdone
so, be was spins( eing farther. . .
Mr. BROUGHAM
iir tseferred the view taken'
of, this question by his onorahle Fiientl on the
floor (Mr. Bibingtun), 40 iltit adopted by his
Honourable Friend • behind (Mr. Wilberforce),
audios- this reasou,that by voting fur the previa,
ous goisslieth the Home In tettiidd,,'wlicrelis the
Board is censurable, therefore we will nor censure
them. Let Gettileitien reflect well before they
told the country that the consequence of a pub.
lie Bo'ard bring alatolit unanimously found to have
beets guilty of great neglect of duty, was, that no
notice whatever. shoal I be taken of it. [pear,
hear t] Tilis was, in, a sesr words, the: mauling or
the vote for the pr.:sinus question.
Mr. G. WI ',SON could mot agree with, his Hon.
Friend (Mr. Brougliaw). He thought he relined.
too much on the inattcr. All listl agreed in voting
a cort.sits ini-asure ui censure, and he was nut for

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el fly 141 Or (.•
Mr. Ei denied that there was atty. 'sect'.
sity fur thovu who toted. for the foreim voting for•
the proem Resolution. lie heaatilrapproved
of
the former rote, befause it indicted a.. censure on
the Board of Ordnailee, which they appeared to
him to have 'tleserre.l. Ulcer, hear !) - It was.
lugh!y necessary to-, express the opinion. of. the
House on this point fur the sake of Abe public set.;
rice and of justice. But he thought the present
!notion sit perilaous. Tise Resollllloll last, passed
'etas a ceor.o re toiltte Board, and had. been .passed
most ettaiiistiouily, at le.tSt wit trout a division, He
therefor,. was al .Mist this new and allitionwl
cCn-
sure, Wlll6l vt as totiy utlthoi; one opiniou to an.
other of the s tfue sort. He was fee the previous
qu..stitot ott Witt gruttnd, th.ti a eenitire had al.
ready been pitsceil by Ow litmsa stn the Board.
T tEItN EY was apiest prert&tis ques.
ror the reasons. girlie by ids• ll•nwearable
Friends (Messrs. Babington and. Brougisam)... it
was saying to thecountiy,theie licase bevit
theit;fore we won't refrobate these. There hail
been neglect; therefore we 'won't censure
Nay, we kaltb ftroiVeitywror sew, Moat-the
is blameable, 'biretta.) we refuse to blame it—
(Hear hear t] As, for the ccusure already Pas.
awl,- ti‘e Chautellur of the Eactieqtler had denied
that the Btiard was to blame, and had thrown all.
on the &glittery ; end the restate said to have'
passed did not touch.the Secretary at. all. Other
Members threw all on the Board, and he,Jorl
one Member, voted on this ground, and one on
that, and the Chancellor of the Eschequar had his
ow a view and his own vote. It •was necessary to
be inure precise, and mull agreed (at least no alto
said the contrary, and the Chancellor of she Ex.
clavier did not venture to divide) that the Board
was highly censurable, it was inure Manly and con-
sistent to. bay so in plain terms. He therefore
should support the motion of his Honourable
Friend.
On the division which then took place, the nem.
hers were,
Fn.* the soitlicloonl 11.ettlutiou of Censure -
Eta the previous Questaiti - -

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Majority f.►rthe previous Question - - 35
Sir J. NEWPORT l►ostporned his mo:i'►n
rrla-
tire to undue Li ratit4 of Public Muticy iu Ireland,

till Monday.
MR. BATIIIP!ST'S INSTRUCTIONS.
Mr. WilliLitEAD rose to make his Motion
on this subject. The of men had of late
been so sadly distracted front every litiestion of a.
public nature by what has! happened aition4 our-
vei, that he should say but a few .‘‘ weds on this
tie was anxious that, against the meet.
ing of the House after the holidays, t!sy should
be in possession of the-Instructions froM Ministers
to Mr. Bathurst, Mr. Stbart, &o. on the subject
of Hostilities between A tintrin and France. lie
accurclingly saovcl an humble Address to his Ma-
jesty, that be would te. graciously pleased to or.
der Copies of all such lostructilms to be laid be.
fore the icouse.
Mr. PZIIOEVAL was.sorry he could not com-
ply with this motion, ,without "Mating the prin.
ripics uniformly Acted on in such cases, which ;
anggssted the iinpolicy of laying before the (louse,
anti of courses .stibmitting to foreign nations, the
private instructiOar of our Government to their
own eonfidential agents. Here great inconvenience
would arise from the prodaCtion. Even in fair
dealing to Austria hcrpclf the Motion could nut he
C0N104:4 with. A. to MG. Stuart, it was suffi-
cient to say, sio instrottions whatever.
Mr. CANNIN6 'concurred in .stating, that
compliance with the motion would produce. greet
park inconycuielcc, whereas now no advantage
could be derived from the production, which couldonly affect individual persons, to whom the papers
might prove injurious. Ile could satisfy the lion.
Gentleman that no material purpose could
i a fact
be Bern.
ed by complying with the motion, it beg
that Mr. Bathurst did not reach, Vienna till.ifon-
ter
the war had begun,. Indeed, his first dispatches c
tainctlaccounts of a bailie which bad already bees
fought. Letitia iray, it was obvious that his in
could have no possible direct in pead
not acin gow'
the
hostilities which took place. Re was ,h,
in antlelit ILO As atom.

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l:oort, odds invited thither; or until war actually
commenced, b6ng in the mean time to remain at
Malta. It was, therefore, impossible that his
instruction!, whatever they might be; could have
any effect in occasioning the war. As to Mr.
Stuart, he hail no instructions Whatever.
Mr. BRONGIIAM Baid he should; on anearly
day next Tuesday) move for Copies of all Correa-
pon.".Uice between Mr. Bathurst, Mr. Stuart, &c.
and his Majesty's Government, so far as they
could be produced without prejudice to the pub.
lie service. To this, he presumed, no opposition
could be made.
Mr. 14/ ti lT MEAD could not conceive how the
Instruct' • Ile had moved for could he prejudicial
to any Foreign State. Austria was sunk, and
what country was there on the Continent but
France ? What harm then could there be in that
House seeing the Instructions of Government to
our own Ministers ? lie would be anxious to ace,
that we were not in any shape accessary to the
late hostilities between France and Austria. lie
should withdraw his motion, howe::er, to let his
Hon. Friend (Mr. Brougham) have the benefit
of such Papers as he could procure 4 lie, how-
ever, was got satisfied.
Mr. Whitbread's motion was then withdrawn,
and Mr. Brougham gave notice for Tuesday.
The Private Stealing Willy- the Dwelliag..llvatse
Bill; the Canal itobbery.ldill, went through a
Committee. The Report ordered to-morrow.
The. Local Militia Bill and ?dilitlfs Completion
Bill were read a third time and passed;
Upon the Motion Of Sir JOHYNEWPORT,.
the further consideration of the Report on the
{risk Bailaextlemot Bill was postioned to Mon-
day next. •
hroutlit up certain pa-
per. referring, to the Bullion Investigation, which
were referred to a Committee.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed
of, and tLe. Bosse. adjourned.