The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-12-08 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

•coeld anis!, bite es to the restrictions containeed in people should go 'named en those Meetings; yet the
the. Hill open the slab' of petioalog. escept it wets Lottl Liestetiant -nray go armed. The Noble Lord
made impede." on those Magistrates to call meetings was mistaken when he said the object of the preterit
whenever worsened. Unless such a necessity of 1111 was to secure the *modemce of some peblic as.
complyisig •ith • peblic requisition for a Meeting to 'brolly. The House saw told that the present was a
take the public grievances into cousideratioN, formed . moo nightly measure. If so, he was astosished it
a part of 'be Bin, it rroeld be • farce to seppose that 'should be limited to so short a period as be years.—
soy Meeting hosing for it. motive the ineulpstion of ' Ile would sippers the aseuganeer.
il eus of Goventeeet, ever wound or could Lord BINNING said, the Hon. and Giggled
take ;dere. Gentleman who had jest sat down seemed to think,
Lord COMPTON woe desire." of proposing an because seeps householders were eullieleist to call a
asuendment is unison with the spirit of the Bill. Ile parish meeting, that twenty freeholders were ses.
should propose that it wise Os 'solid for Snr or be dein to call a reeety Bootleg. Bet a differeoce
conk, hrs.* no objections to Intend the number to 30, wood be fend is the armors of the mains, I the
freeholders, pro ed each of 10th. a year, to sell a householders weeld be inhabitants of the parish, bet
CiAnty Meeting, epos, se appeal to them frost the the fretholdmeny set be lehabitaets of the county.
*miss toles. Ile believed that in mime counties twenty etee pos.
%it. MAXWELL proposes; that he the part of the sessing the property required by the amendment may
Um that related to icoolasitt,aftes the word stewartry, he fiend to call a meting, g of which set tae "tea-
time should be inserted 'be word+, or 10 sees entitled informed man would be fogad to approve. If such
eie he Commiesieners of Soppy. en olnondififer were 'greed to, It would entirely de.
• Lord CAqTLEREAGH had a deckled objectiou "troy the principle oo which the Bill was coaoded.—
trushe assemdmeet of the Noble Lord, as also I. ( near, hear!)—He wield feel it his duty to resist
doss "Libya's''. Gsmtleonins •$ they went to •Sel4 the amendment, and eine with the remark of the
be spit/ al thirproposition. The Privies° "Sent o 1! lion. Member for Leicester (Mansfield), that the
.evits Rb. Iseilsolden to such Meeting would be no ! preset,' measure was c.lcalated to protect the liber-
medmisitee mampared with that of the Lord Lieutenant . ti„ of the people.
Or Jzatiseevbesser in coiling the Meeting these Ma. Lord EIIItINGTON said, he believed so clam of
It slossoossiso4Oltdffoll thelosilso• to attend the Mitt' his Majesty's 'objects were more attached to the
snag, slidoelipmeree, so tendency or disposition to Constitutive thin the Yeomanry of 1001. a pit.—
lookiletsociooOrtittliort a cold escape observation, or He did ant think any danger could arise from per-
Dot be mos Ity a timely inter/lettuce. It was not ins. milting twenty men of that deseriptiee 'scan a meet.
pesilbleriMteheeri.mleho take place, wider the sue• lag. H. would vete for the amendment.
moo oST-sholld 1111O1Seatidders, as soormosol Coon', Lord CASTLEREAGII said, this Bill was set
Meeting atehistrofy .outset that the most rinequiro. Intended to extend to any meetings but those held
cal 161111141.111 sloPtolos of 1111411nel or even set *idolise, and not is meetiags held in Terre Halls
tit Alton sets knees, to eaist in that very county. or in doors
Mr. J. 11i1041rANT eopporied the amerdment of Mr.nosWELLlsere proposed some verbal awed-
his How. Friend at some length. went with respect to Scotland.
Lord NOUSSANBY considered the amendment Sir It. HERON said, he keew one insteps. of a
.I"'"Prisid mosillkoisterisli, elect the PrioMPle if the Sheriff being hired by the Crowo.—(Cries of name,
whole measurer, Gerd reed.' it abortive; he,ilhoreforet same !)—Hs would not name the person who was
kit himself called os to give as original diet* his hired, bet he would name the Gentleman irks oat
utmost support. applied to and refused such an Dice. 'The Geode.
The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND felt one was Mr. Cetera', el the comity of Lincoln.
it his del to slate. In defuses of the Sheriff' Der", Annan. MEM HER sorter the goners (shots name
that they were Megisttates net removable at the plea. we could not learn) said, Mr. Calcraft did serve as
/WO of the Crass. The Magistracy throughout Sheaff for the county of lincolo.
Scotland, he is nista safely afirm, wets persona gone- Sir R. HERON wield admit the troth of the
sally of the hilth t respectability, and the Sheriffs How. Member's observation, but the application was
ueifot oily taken from that profession of which be was made to Mr. Calcraft misty years ego, suit he did set
a member, 'wee as Sheriff until last year.
Mr. MANSFIELD supported the necessity of lie' Mr. B. BATIIURST said, that three names were
Wiling the amendment, if the House ever hoped to presented to the Privy Cosecil, as proper parson, to
give efficacy to the Bill. The object of the Bill was serve the *ice of Sheriff, one of whom was chosen :
approved, end its shuts tent considered of the most bet if the persons so named could gives 'efficient es•
vital tog...titmice by all the well.disposed,the indestri. cuss for set straw., the Crown had not the power of
oesol..reopectable,sodloyaLthi nastiest the kingdom. „skid another.
llecueld trot ...either why all onto* aid hossornable Mr. BRO(iDEN.—The Right lion. Gentleman
(trellis* 'bead coscentrate itself only is possum hew. did not soy who was the pets*. to judge of the ea-
ing loul. per annum. Ile did not duubt that persons cow off„od,
of that estimate might be induced to sig.. requisition 1 Mr. MARTIN of Galway) said, if the Reese
for very improper PorPosis sea objects. Nor slid hi agreed to the amendment he would apply for leave to
think it et all enikely there were as malty virteees retort' to Ireland.--[A targh.]-11a thought the
frieitelems dlO . &soul isenbads, ea there were sees. of a cottony would be better known is small
of luol. I meetings then le meetings se large as to render it is.
Lord ALT lIORP opposed the Oilseed 'lmported : possible for any man addressing them is he heard by
the amendment, a. likely to produce wee small' hilt th„,„linc. Ile objet red to the amendment,
check spun any ',binary proceedings of Givers- 1 beevese he thoeght 10 )eomeis of 1001. a year each,
mew, sinsold his Majesty's Moisten J 010144040! me, in the country parts of Englsad be indocod
hav• reenters@ to such measures. tursregh fear to sign a reqeisitien for • meeting.
The A YroBsEY•GENEItAL had, he believed, Sir C. MONCK did not see any dagger was to be
some tole, ibly perfect ides of what had been for. apprehended from permitting 20 freeholders of lout
merly the idea of a lintel Meeting; hot that a Meet. a year to call • meeting. If the object of the Noble
ing should be denominated legal, which in despite of Lord be to regulate nut 'oppress peblic metier, he
the Shooed' might collect together the populates of a ought to say what property the people should possess
whole county, be it ever so esteesive, was the growth who might be entitled to call meetings.
of later days, although he would by es means pledge Lord COMPTON (as sit understood him) served
himself to say that such • Meeting wee illegal.— with the preposition of his Hon. Friend. If the No.
(Ligutki•S o'l Ike OPP•silioN Be•dies.)—As fur,' bit Lord allowed 40 freeholders to be sellicient to
oho, as be hue. any thing of Grand Jeri's, the Js. I call a meeting is other counties, he (Lord Compton)
rots wet. generally Magistrates sod the Costes Rote. would have no objection that a greater number of
torso, or the Sheriff' of counties. Ile believed Ike i fseehoWers should be 'sleights to call a meeting in the
1l•11" need not be informed of their Vaud "slims' counties of York, Lancaster, and Northumberland.
bility. The letter. it 6*s well hues., were sot ma' Lord CAS ri.EREAG IL—There were now three
mutated by the Crown, bet selected sot of a certain propositio„ bifure the Boma, all of which he be.
nsosher of persons proposed for she 0111e1. lie e" tiered to be perfectly untenable, and in direct app..
suited the Honourable and I.eurned Gentles's. (Mr. sition to the principle of the Bill. If the Hoes.
Brougham), it bed sever brew the intention of the I stirmd "either 'hey may us well threw tho Bill over
Mimeo of the pal to eseept invidiously the pareelth i the table, and afford the Hon. Member (Mr. Martin)
of Soothe ask. Ile implored the linos, to neigh well on opportunity of rotor Meg to Ireland.
the salute of this amendment, which, if carried, Sir C. MONCK said, be world slot object, if the
would deprive Crewman', sod the country of these. Noble Lew „sired pima, (plaided to call a
crony of any proper and competent i,edi,kleals to Meeting to be „mimed of how. per
year.
answer for the good conslect of the Meeting thus After a few observations from Mr. P. Grant, the
couveisert. Lord Adencitte of Scotland, and Lord Campton,
Mr. T. F. KENNEDY thought the resent mese Lord FOLKMlONEsettlobet from the peculiar
sure in a peculiar essistaer against the right of Public circumstances in which Scotland was placed with re.
141"6"14 in Sc°11•11./• In Sre4l•ll4l there was we "pint to Pablic Olicers, this season would operate
pots 05.1er ass Costus Roisterous. In the neat pieces 'overfly is that consort!. Ile had heard it said that
the Lord Lieetesiant, Wiese a milisely woe, was sot an instance was never known is Scotland, wherein a
• proper Porno to attend at CestelY Illell4ll_u__•'' Congos*? refused to call a Meeting. Ile wished the
Though the Sheath in Irosisod were eel ger'. I ease coold be said of the public setherities in Eng-
les the Crown, end were in his spinier" as praise. land.
worthy as any other body of woe Fet "lee IS" Lord A. HAMILTON thought that seder the
should be arson b.titreert their political sod jedicial Bill, as it stead, live Justices of the Peace miglst
dads. The Co rof the comity was elected by oil s Meeting if, any
steriertry et seethed.
the county, and removable at pleesine. The Gee. The ATTORNEY.GENERAL said, the con.
ent" bad not, he believed, by law a right to calla strati°, of the Act ern rams, sod applied to
meeting of the Fieohaiders, though h. knew It was Seethed as well as to this cottony, in the poetics's'
easel for the freeholders to attend wedge celled by dam oiled to.
the C . ils andel ono* Moos why • Pees' Mr. lIROUGIIAM believed his Right Hon.
should sot he sloes to too swot each equally as 4e* Friend (lb. Attotney.Gaineral) meant that the alit!
llPs'essOlo is the Converser, to whew by lbea.slweltell I shield 'retied to Scollsod ; to prevent ambiguity,
nil a Power was gives Is call a 14104161* aa° these however, it world be desirable to introdece the word
grounds he should feel it his duty to seppert the o
aillireflry.
asinadirent. The Lea A DVOCATF: said, he had se objection
Mr. DENMAN mid, the peewit emeedmeet wily that the word shook, be admitted into the clause.
Placed Euroltl Meetings 16 thollame state as P 41614.1 1110 Hoes* divided no Mr. Stilwell's Amendment.
Meetings. The Ationsey•Geeeral had said, that the AL,,, et I Noes, M I Majoni•rirhit the Aombiwat, ISt.
present enteedereet was lecoweisteot with the pie. Laid commoy obi tewhis Anieodmesit, as
ciple sped which the 11.11 itself was beaded. The he considered that tnced against he sense of the
the use
was in
Howoorable sod Loomed Gentleman had said, the some degree pronou it by jectioe of
of jeet 4 lb* IMR"was to amen the attendance of Mr. Massell's Anieridesent.
WOOD posed as an Ammo'.
some *gel eldresify to peewee* the peace at sad Mr. Alderman pro
Meetings, Mod that the edition*. of the Went newel- mem, that Wind Meetgs might be coiled either by
went onelithe encase, to the enamel law, which the Alderman, or by nitre or more Counnen Coos.
required the resew, of the Sheaf at Comely Meat- climes odocod f
libel W
the eruid. Unless
could aharcldsoy lut
ca were leto
o
jar. lip(Mi. D.) availed this, benne* ,by the se. tro ii is t ey
tient law, the Sheriff was only supposed le pie• have soy Ward Memories at all in the city of hoodoo.
side at the Coonly Court, end therefore supposed to This was iste.ly the case. Great incnorenience arose
be present. The Bill did not say that the Lord I. from residers., it DftOrifnifyiumtirehto%l.disedtgliiiikohirooteiasigoot
00..1110. St.etiff. or live Megisitates should be presets. within doors, because
6.0 a t.. ore, Sl•eti.g ;it wily oothorited Ike. to ae room law g
enee h for sccommodating all the ill.
I.: . 4 ;.'suer.. I, es* provided by ibis WI that the habitants.

Lord CASTI.EREAGII nisi, the U to. Alder.DlM thosipttetion of the lied aGirotielgua au say. the
seemed desires to intredoce specific royal/Moos foe ever) plebe, wet a freibehler, bet steadies such
the City of Leaden ; be saw ne reason for so doiesg. : meatier of fruholden, would be 'silty of a shale.
If there were not halls large sough le acessmodele !Ilea.", ?—[llea!]
the Word Meetings, he could recommend this to the I Mr. WV N espleined.
very commedious ruse of Willis's, is bus @sigh. Tbe SOLICITORGENERAL odd, that e clause
boarhood. bed bees issued for the specie! pup.. of prenot.
' Mr. Alder... WOOD had no Mistime, if there lag the
authorising &Scalds
lean the la which sight aritise from rat
le
the
I
was a clause hands:eel itting them I. ant leessce, and to w u was berets
there. Rat that was not to be ',peeled. Thechsehes peados of the Bill.
were lately Ain evilest Ward Mishap. sad ibis Mr. PRIMROSE said. that the Hrs. Gerstlesse
Bill, he had no doubt, weeld, is many Wards, lave (Mr. W.) seemed to desire to reedit the Art men se.
the effect of petting an end to he. completely. eere than even the Respite,. of It. He felt that two
Mr. Alderman WA ITIIM AN Haugh, it necessary . years Imprisonment en anew of enmities a mode
to press the amendment, es the pdarinie of she Bill ; leg would by as excessive pessisitehot.
west "'Weedy to the suppression of all bet Perhb Mr. HONEYWOOD wished to leers whether
Meetlnp. tteeellen past.; throult a shied when a Meet*
Mr. Alderman CURTIS dewed live clause mi. was held (such as Maidstone. le the open sheet)
eenessry. The Alderman .f the Ward might be week' be guilty ef the edetittareaseera sad liable to
safely trusted with respect to the allies of Meetings, the consequent ?
owl there was so Ward without a plus sslicieetly Led CASTLEREAGH ...Wend that the Me.
enoveniont for belch./ the.. situates woold bus a right to protect the rights tof
Mr. Alder... WOOD espreseed hit determine. the penes atteadieg the Mistime. The different
Idea to divide the Hasse en the gustiest, sed the rights of Mealtimes requited at
no prose's should
'gallery was ordered to be cleared, whew, come there eseept those who bad thou rights.
Mr. Alderman W AITIIM A N rose amidst Iced Sir C. MONCK *lilted to know if copyhelders
lades of Question, withdraw I—He beds public duty would be allowed to attend a County Meeting?
to perform, and should net be pet does by clasoor. Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, as we seder.
He wee toe much used to oppositios of that kind to steed, le the Sarosdy'.
be deterred by it from speakiog his Natiellhile Mr. GRAHAM. es ere wen informed, Member
'[hcer! and a laugh frees the Ministerial Beeches] fee Hell, mid that be was us a freesia. of that tern,
—sod when she Mummy-Getters' should brim kis slid mold be. thetaterst he raddled far sttestlieg
charge against him. he should be able to rove that the Meeting of hie coestiteeets after the disulfides
be was as really pet dawn by demur.—(Cries .f elthe Peritoneal ? He sbi•eted abstlethlw to she tale*
Order! Qaestion!)-11. was es is the habit of apt* of the Bill; bet as the Hum mos degraded
treebling the Hoes* dn. or 6166 .—E/her! frees tepees it, be whited it eb.sld be mere esplicit.
the Ministerial ilenclses..l-11se Bill. as it stood, Lord CASTLEREAGH, if we were mot mistaken,
would have the effect of completely petting down all sold, that all meetings for Aeries would he
Ward Meetings, unless the Alderesse 'gushed to call Tres the *radii* .1 the Bill.
them. As there was, however, es prospect of see. Mr. BROUGHAM euteetled, That the dilialty
arse, he should be sorry to pet the Hoes le the of his Reaearabie Pried, although greet, was set,
trouble of dividing. however, restned. The Bill allowed the mildew
The ameadmeet was oegatind whitest a divides. Member to steed; bet so penes weeld he per.
Mr. Alderman WOOD said, the Livery of Loa. milted to come to an elude. to divine his use..
do. were eat at all named in the Bill. They were, does, unless be was privileged by being a freeholder
therefore, included frees mettles altogether as the et Noma.
Hill new steed. He coecleded by proposisg • clause Lord CASTLEREAGH 'aid, that seetlege might
to iodide the Livery, and said he should divide the change in astute from what was proposed ; that eves
Ikon on it. the meetings for discussing whether It wee a lee day
The SOLICITOR.GENERAL said, se they met or net might end its deliberative whether the Cased.
le a Hall, it was gaits eseeeessary to make any par. tads. woold Genies it. Sufi waning. were to be
tinder mead°. of the Livery of Ludes. presested. Bet if they were properly carried on.
After a few words from Mr. Alders.. WAITII. there siell4 be In *Wenn to their contitiesece.—
M AN, the asasedseet was segatlnd witheet a divi. Ha *sold allow that meetings after the his and the
den. rehire of the writ, Auld eel be included within the
Lord CASTLEREAGH proposed a. ameethunt, effects of the Bill.
the object of which was, t. !dog 'Md. the provi. Mr. BROUGHAM maintained that the Singe*
sloes of the Bill meetings held for Oodles, COMllaf• INS set seewered.
vial, or essaufecteting porpoise. They might be Mr. J. GRANT was desirous of loarisiog, whether
called ostensibly for such objects, and proceed to be she Heaton of Seethed a 'old be sodded to the
sinus of • very different kind, as it happened lately saw privileges as the Copyliolders of Eaglasul, foe
he Seethed, where a Myelin was called to take into firer-MU a a Mallet OWN *sold be godly of a
coosidentioe the low state of workmen's wages, sad sisdemesseer othersise.
the Mashie closed by cosies to Rsoletiuse he To this gantlets an sassier was gives, as we bto
f f Anoint Parham's., Usiversal Serfage, is,,, le the airmative.
tied Vote by Ballot. Mr. WILLIAMS asked, whether freemen le Core
The amendment was agreed to. perste Towns would be allowed to mew so discuss,
M. J. P. GRANT wished to knew the words of cutesy le the wish .f
the Corporatialsoontbe , Os
ceedect merits
Outclass' by which the Noble (Castlereegh, proposed sad des:wits of a Candidate, sod
to reeled" from the provides. of this Bill ell Meet. a their HAPrewstettsor?
hogs not Reid out of doors. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that eashieg could
Lard CASTLEREAGH having reed the chose, he less a matter .r noisiety, them a Enemata of
Mr. MARRYAT thought there were essay cases Weystroth. But the Bill "Fuld ors teed to suedes
where • ream large easseeh for the Meetings ceeld these Ileedege, sales assembled by Pales ashes.
not he found, and that .me provisiees should he riteM•
made. r. WILLIAMS wished that Weymosh, as wall
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, no es could I. as the ether beresghs, should be reodeted what it
more armies thee himself that such Meetings Auld eseht to le.. Ile would penis in having a clause to
be held. The objection could eat apply to Gelid. that effect letrodeced ins. the Bill.
hall, ankh was large tough to cassia 10,000 Strangers eels ordered• amidst great conflation, to
persons. withdraw. After a considersble delay, we were again
0. the chew for regulating bleeder is Isaias. Wattled. *bee we were learned that the 'mead.
divided into districts brims peoposed, out had been wegatived Slims a diviaion.
Sir C. MONCK remarked. Out by the statute 0. eer tetras., we foetid Lord ALTHORP ea
C. 11. it bad beets greeted to pariahs when, free his kr, maid.' some (Awnings. whie
h. fres the
the member if poor, they coed sot be coneeniestly campfuloo, we could sot distinguish. We ender.
'opposed collectively, they might he divided isle steed him to allude to 'satirise the Bill local la
districts ; yet although I. meow places they had bee. some sees.
subdivided, they enjoyed she debt of assembling at Lord CASTLEREAGH slid, as far as wo costa
a public meeting ; sod surely they ugh, not to be collect, that the most important point of the Bill ass
dispossessed. Bat by this Bill the peep. wield be to allow the Msgistrates to pretest the
asaes
drive. to associate parishes to Ada. that, of which Wog impropetly.
they would Ise thereby deprived. Lased CASTLEREAGH eopsidered, that Publics
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, that he latmeded Meetings should be so ds-led with teepee sod
to introduces chess to most the objectless of the propriety self they were semidd by a Magistrate.
Hon. Member. Mr. WM. SMITH en afraid this clause would
An smeadmeat ree she clause was moved by far C. entrep the unwary and include strangers, who only
MONCK, as was soother by Lord COMPTON, a shaded by chisel° see what was
tomalley, lunati onlag forward at
but both we.. nerstlved without a divide.. piddle Meeting, •ithost any tomal
lard CASTLEREAGH proposed, that to qualify •Italsesteer.
persons, bring nee.resideets, to ahead public Mr. MARRYAT said, while Costs of bilks
meetings. they should possess freehold property to W.llll epee to strangers. sad eve. the gallery of the
the emus of 801. per SMISSO within Ike psi* in Ham of 01161 while parishes wen sub
disided
which the meeting was to be bold. He sheeght it with itedlees, lases;pposed to him that oksetstert set of
light its fixing the amuse et 501. that such persona twisty who atteeded tech places were wend, mere
should be well knows, that the lehebitaa's might be from motives of swishy thee say improper potpie*.
wend from adieu, by takieg hats custody, as Those who attended such Nutley vast' nil Stu-
strangers. thou who were ant geslilled to attend. (loss
were bet very few ; sad. h
he lipoid guard
Sir R. FERGUSSON said, that he could set but against danger sod disaffectien, he weeld sedestern
maks an observation or two, on se ...rhea made set to shouts for ever the affections of the people.
by the Noble Lord, that at a Manias of manefsc- Mr. ROBINSON said, unless
pa ish Meetly. the
eases of peruse
hirers held in the camel of Fife. the avowed object wen revealed from &heeding r
lof which was respecting tisk wages, that politic, whole object of the Bill would be destroyed. These
lase introdoevel. sod that the wages had bees for. who admitted the priaciplo of the Bill mild set pee
goatee. That Meeting had bees exaggerated its nem- siblv object to the class under diseases..
ben, sad he was couldent net more than 450 per. The Hos. Mr. PRIMROSE begged to ermied tie
sows had assembled ; the people ware set of a re. House, that eves dodos the passim( of the Riot Act,
ettletionasy spirit. although they might have adopted ao such power as that new proposed I. this Bill lad
epee of the foolish andante! Major Cartwright. It heea contemplated. No parties sheald be placed es.
wee dee to the usansfactereas of that plenty to ay. der such cousgeseces. Hs coosidered tIP Hose
that although at meeting,a small basil of pima. had and the Coessletes to be proceeding 'Whet MM..
matched into a populous use with legs aged musk, try coasirlentioe, or that time small, devoted to
yet no disotder *neared. Ceder the heaviest di.. the commonest Tat Bill. If tbe Bill is its WOK
hoses they had preserved the stand pelisse"; end rested with die Goveroseet, it wield have petard
nee at the pews mooed so low were their wages, in its original prevision, were sad
twist'pl as th q
that after working IS hours is the day, they were were, and planed du with the asentlea, t wash,
not able to fern more than Ss. 6d. per week. the beeefit of the people. The liberties of the people
A cooversation of coaskkrable !eolith took place.s wen altogether imaged by these Bills, sod 'hens m
the else. which erased the pettishness to be is- i these Ins itstrodetwd, making it a ettadeellewef
Acted on pusses studs( meetings coatrary to the umiak or perform ea act morallyd's. The
Unseat. it true
Act. should have his Nude. or &probe Sass
Mr. WYNN, es we enderehrod hies, was Buse would affect any useably aggregated for those SMY
to permiese hourbolders to stead at the meeting purposes for which they might ban bona jirk *et
of huh°, . .• I together. There were already realties monk i"
Lord A 1.1:10ItC eiesed to ask, .`ether it was the 13111 wittiest gitiog to the lightest. any I. re CI