The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-02-20 00:00:00

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• don to call the attentien of the Heine early in
this Session to the exorbitant Charges of. Proc.
ton. Ho had no doebt•if the expences which
' were charged on prizes were reduced, the induce-
',4lPants would be so much greater for naval men,
that they would bo much mote active, and take
many more of the enemy's vessels ; but the draw-
back was now so_ great, that it was not worth
their while to take those vends which come in
the way. The expence of the Navy amounted to
twenty motion'. six millions of whit* might be
saved. If Bonaparte thought proper to have
one hundred sail of the line, was-that linty reason
why the naval
,strength of England should be
increased five fold ? Ibis Lordship then, &pre-
cated with much warmth the system of granting
of. licences, ..vhich he said were now as much a
marketable commodity at the ports of Holland,
as sheep or oxen. They were of infinite service
to our enemies, as they enabled them to carry on
their commercial speculatioas with unabating
energy, inereased. the nursery for se4men, and
became a source of national advantage, by furnish-
ing all those .supplies which their ships, unpro.
tected by such licences, will not possibly Odom-
{dish. There were not less than 8000 foreign
trading vessels within the river Thames annually,
each of which contained from eight to thirty men,
so that if Bonaparte had the ships, he could very
easily find men lonian them.—With respect to the
salary of the King's Proctor, ke seal Convinced it
amounted to £40,()00 a year, . 1
Sir JOHN NICHOLL persisted in hi 'assertion
,that the salary of the King's Proctor was but
47,500. •
Capt. BERESFORD felt it inctimbent on him-
self to vindicate the character of the naval officers,
for whom he felt the greatest love, against tho im-
putation thrown but by the Noble Lord, that
they .required the incentive of riches to induce
theM.to their duty. So far front this, he felt con-
vinced they would rush into the mouth of danger,
and perform their duty •with es much activity and
energy if they were not to receive half.g.crown,
as if they were to be recompensed by a fortune.
—peed, hear i]
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
thought one or two of the cases mentioned would
be sufficient to brig; under the consideration of
the House. it would be necessary.to make some
inquiry in order to refute the observations of the,
Noble Lord (Cochrane)..- lie could not agree. to-
the Motion in its then state.
Mr. FRXEMANTLE rose in consequence of
one observation that had fallen from the Noble
Mover. He had stated that the • King's Proctor
received annually about forty thousand pounds*:
that was not the case—he received annually about
eight thousand.
Lord COCHRANE then altered his motion, and
confined it to two cases, namely, the Two Sisters,
taken by the Lord Nelson, and the "iinphiok,
'Captured by a ship, the uame of which tre could
not hear.
Is lic motion was then put and. agreed to.
-Lad COCHRANE'then moved for a copy of
the authority to the King's Proctor,
,dated the
29th March, 1779.—Ordered.
Mr. ROSE then ' moved- fdr * -Colby of the
order of her Majesty, dated in 1708. .
Lord FOLKESTONE laid the Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr.'.Rose) was out of orderno no.'
tice-liad been girett-ufAlse Motion.
Mr. ROSE then gave notice fur tO-morrow.
Lord COCHRANE moved for a copy of the
King's warrant; dated 25th January, 1805, grant-
ing the proportions of the proceeds of the Santa
Maria-to the crew of the-Corlor.Ordered. •

BREACH OF -PRIVILEGE.
Mr. YORKE rose to call tho attention of the
House to what he thought a. gross flotation of
their privileges. Either these privileges existed or
they did not. If they did exist, it .was .the bounden
duty of that House to defend them from those
gross and-wanton attacks, that went in; a great de.
grcc to question, whether they' had such pcitileges
or not. The attack, of which he now complained,
Vas not a mere newspaper paragraph, it was a pla.
card stuck upon the walls of the metropolis, chid.
longing the eye of the passenger, and openly defy-
ing all consequences.': A grosser breach of pri-
vilege than the matter contained in that placard,
he could nut readily imagine ; but before he
would read to the House the contents of that pa-
per, which he then held in his hand, he could
not help making one observation. If that House
had privileges to maintain, he thought in his heart,
it was now high time tnaisertlhem—( Ilene, hear!)
He, 'though they did him the honour of mention-'
ing his name, was not ied6eticed by personal con;-
shiers-lions; and he felt confident, that the House,
wield do his the juetice to believe, that he as
influenced, in the present Untested solely 4fy a
sense of public duty. (!tear!) For the liberty
that had been taken with his name, by those per-
sons, be felt nothing bat• the inestprofound con.
tempt thei-Rattsird liiiiSiefilitrinartar. war inad-
ed with the names of a RiAt Hon. Gentleman op.
posits: (Mr. Windhase),ind of himself. lie (Mr.
Yorke) must boatel! times proud to have his name
'Coupled with that of the Right Hon. Gentleman,
and so far be must acknowledge. himself indebted
to Use authors of the paper in-question—as to the
"objetionablo inattercontained in that paper, he
should merely read it to the Bouse, and leave it to
them without any comment.' This same ',lewd,
which announced itself as the' jonrstal of *sort of,
speaking club, called It Tins Raman Folsom,"
stated to the public, that ,t' Last Monday, after
an interesting discussioni it was unanimously de-
cided, that the enforcement of the Standing Or.
deri, by shutting out Strangers from the Gallery
of the House of Commons, ought to be censured
as an insidious mid ill-tiniedattack upon the 14
betty of the press, as tending to aggravate the die:.
contents of the people, and to resider their kr.
presentative. • otijects of Jealous suspicion,"-
:Hero they had their mint valued privileges
attacked at once, their Standing Order, were
censured, and they themselves were mepaccd ;
for the speetion upon the propriety of enforc-
ing thole , Orders had been recently before--
the Hanes and the prifpriety of that proceed-
ing *es coefirmesi hp 4 very eqesideralate majo..
I:41, lie bad helm bred qp it; thuarhakiit pr Tr.
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noration for the Con‘titadon, that•he Nod ,
necessity, revere the Liberty of the Prase 41-16-111
the most efficient gaardians of that Constitatio
he thought the Liberty of the Press had eoau.-"'
formidable enemy. than the licentiousness a(
Press, and as a sincere and *talons 46,447
the.former, he trusted he should never he withlt
la his efforts to punish and restrain the latter:
first proposition would be, to deliVer in the
r-
at the table—next, that it should be read h",,
and that the 'clause in the Be Fe
Bill of . 'll
Crellleartive to the privilege of debate, slioahl
real ; and lastly, he should move, that the Pe„:
shoald be required to Wend at the Byroiir.
House to-morrow. Mr.Yorke.then delivered jo
paper, -which was read by the Clerk and "'
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substance as follows t-•—•
WINDHAM RNLI YORKE.
BRITISH FORUM. 39, RISOFoRD.STRer?
Co raet?-Ga Bogy —McKanic., Fan. 19, !did '
Qiiesti : Which was a greater outrage epee ib,.
feeling, Mr. Yurke's enforcement of the /bandit; or':
exclude Strangers from the House of Cootraith. or
W indham's recent anurk lip m the I.ikerty of Prey?'
Last' bloadav, &c. (Far the rest of this choseirlitT:lseikee.gogrefsaPcteecoamnfinix:i)amety,maa:fiet:te.danebyrtathine,p:oliwrereir)stbsik::
period, to become acquainted with the pf‘,4edi,,riajita
romotersAe
and
ic
of the bite calamitous Expeditios
Scheldt, tn.;ether with the violent attacks 'made by
Wiipthisin•an the Newspnprr Reporters (whom
tents as" kankrupts, Lottery-Office Klepers,
decayed Tradesuren,") bays stirred up the
and excited universal attention. The present quettt..
therefore brought forward as a tomparative inguity, And
be justly expected to funds% a crusted and isteresik
hate. •
Printe4 by J. P LAN, 117, Wardour-street. • .
Mr. YORKE neat moved; That that clan%
the. Bill of Rights, affecting privilege of speech it
that House, be now natl. It was read nee.
ingly, stating, in 4nirstance, that the speeches
debates of Members in Oat Meuse ova
to be impeached or questiostorby any,seibgi,
out of that How. • •
Mr.-YORKE thermovedi•Tht J. Deja,
ter, 57, Wardonr.street, dwattend at the
that House, to.fnorrow.----Oedered.
The House resolved into a Committee of top,
pI7, and after some conversation betweon
Wharton and Mr. Tierney, the consideratios tf
the subjects referral. to it was postponed till Fri,
day,. and the House resumed.
The Committee of Ways and Means was nor,
, pooed till, Wednesdays
EXPEDITION TO THE SCHELDT.
The Order of the Day beiug. moved for pie;
into a Committee of Inquiry respecting the Erg.
dition to the Scheldt.
• Lord FOLKESTONE rerourrmeelcd Om pre.
priety of devising some means to promote dispel
in the progress of this-Inquiry. From the helm
of Thee to which it had already extended, and free
the manner in which it latigoisheti,.he wag milt
at a loss to calculate upon the period of its ter*.
nation, unless there was considerably mom of li.
ligence and activity than had yet appearetli tulles
more of the time of the House were devoted nit,
'With this view he would propose that the Ivey
should take precedency of all notices of motion et
that the House sheutd proceed upon this intiaityat
en earlier hour of the day than that selehice, not
t:usually commenced helloes,. The latter ootirsete
would himself be dispustal to prefer. But there *
a subject of much more consequence, to OM hi
thought it has duty, uptm this occasion, to eat
the attention of the lbws. Among the medal•
the table, he found a most extraordinary latter re,.
ferring to the matter of this Inquiry. Re c*
fessed that when this letter was originally mould
for, he felt some doubts es to the'regularity
producing it; hat upon flit:tiler considering it, ad
doubt was removed,atel keno, had no hesitation
in declaring his decided opinion, that It was aril
document as that Rouse quiet rit to receives,
allow to remain on the table. For what did Mt
paper purport to be ? A narrative of five Exp.
dition to the Scheldt, signed by Lord Chatham,
and presented to his Majesty withoet the hoer.
Tendon of any responsible Mitfi'stee!- (4 laud
cry of facar, hear !) :Dicta were We* Oleg
connected with this paper which appeared is
demand explahation. How did the POW tsnor
it• was a true' copy of the discontent said to
have been presented to -his Majesty I Through
what Office did it Pass 2—. fear It did not heir: tM
signature of any official person; a'nd by whale! .
cident did it come Into the hands of the Chancel-
lor of the exchequer, by whom it had Ince isiti
.cm.the table? Another remarkable feattwe shoot
it was 'this, .that although it , met two or OWs
mon* ago announced in the Newspapers, Alia"
'or ejapposed to have some understanding well*
Ministry, that Lord Chatham had presented it 11.1.'
lative of this description ,to h s MaieltY, yet, rho
paper to which he 'now referred tore date poly
upon the 14th inst. But his main objection to
this Papei was of a• constitutional character-7
Lord Chatham hal; it -appeared, not in his cha-
racter of a Peer; or Privy Counsellor, bat, in dot
'of a MilitaryCommanderlyvesented to theiiitte""
person, an aeCoust of hie military prooeediat4 ill
though directed under the Sign Malawi!, by wh;t
he was appointer!, to make such eommitaicationf,
to the proper (Nicer %hem the Constitatioft re.
cognized; and this account was brought taints
that House in a most oneonstitutionel, irregular,
and questionable phape,, This paper seeming l"
have keit presented to his Majesty in hi. 4 Prig*
closet, he did not know through
abet °
N ce, it
um! ha way to. that -goose. It might Zoiltia
li
eery important matter, and it might be proper to
have it laid upon the table; but from the.irar*
larity which he hod remarked about it, he tho)liit
it right to submit his opinion to the considerat,o
on hat House,
Mr. CANNING apprehended; from tlai.to".
Me Lord's statement, that the paper to *Web "
Noitle Lord referred was not pros-ated to any Ct.
:vial Minister, but persowelly to his Majesty. it"'
Mc" a (Milian well worthy of conliderstieni
whether the objection applyint to the form in
which the paper was breueist before that Menet
WO not, such es could not ho romonel, or gash,
tied by_ the substance of Alit paw, sheerer ill!!
ssalbstence might be. (nom joqr t t Ile deism
suppose that all PIAUI Nit the House, tchot*s
to pubiie llocelaselsoireassiaddrealeir °WO:
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