The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-05-05 00:00:00

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r ofrefort it was clear that their march had". whim.,
T, Sri.. Further than this be had sot gone, excep
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cautioning Otntlenten against assuming as fact that
af which there was no proof.
gic L WILSON asked, whether Turin surrendered
"to Sardinian or to the Austrian troops?
eke Marquees of LONDONDERRY replied, that if
the Austrian troops entered Turin, it was at the re-
ct% of the King of Sardinia. The Sardinian troops
tok possssion of Piedmont and the Austrian troops
vtrd against Alersandria and Novara.
Sir R. WILSON asked, if it was true that the
kers of Alessandria had been sent to the Emperor of
Austria, and not to the King of Sardinia ? If so, this
was giving possession to the former instead of its law-
lei Sovereign.

of LONDONDERRY replied, that

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Th. Ameadoent was then put and carried without a
division. The original question was of course nega-

A message from the Lords announced that their
Lo dships bad Oren their assent to nicest Bills. (See
Loris) hat the Speaker do leave the Chair,
On Cie question
t
Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON addressed the House in
an eleillent manner, in reply to the speech of the
Marinas of Londonderry, upon his (Mr. H.'s) late
Booties.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY explained.
sfr. lIUME said, that he had a few observations to
sake before the Speaker should leave the Chair. No
ion in that House, or in the country, felt more than
be aid the great importance of the navy—no man was
more anxious than he was to preserve it unimpaired ;
to its naval power this country was indebted for its
pre-emiaent station, compared with the other nations
of &rope ; friendly, however, as he was to our naval
establishments, be yet thought that it could be kept et
in a state as perfect as it stood at present, and at
less expence. He did not at that moment mean to go
into questions of detail, he would merely take the total
expenditures of various departments and compare those
expenditures with those of former periolls.—(Here the
Hon. Member went into several items of expenditure
connected with various branches of the Naval Depart-
ments, for which see the Resolutions.)—Ile then went
on to say, that considering the great reductions that
had recently taken place in almost every article, the
Hesse ought to look very narrowly at the different
heads of expenditure, and ought to endeavour to ap-
proximate the present expenditure to the expenditure
of 1792. Ile regretted to have beard a declaration
estle that night in another place by a Noble Lord
(Liverpool) that no further reduction could be made
is the present expenditure of the country. He (Mr.
Hume) hoped that before that day twelve months con- II
siderable reductions would he made in the public ex-i
penditare. The lion. Uentleinan concluded by moving
the following resolutions
" That it appears by the doennients before the Housed ! II
that the expense of the Adiniraltv-olfice, Pay-office, an
Navyoffice Establishments in 1)92, when there were
141 ships in commission, 251 in ordinary, and 16,000
seamen and marines, was 58,7191.: that in 1913, when
there were 666 ships in commission, 355 in ordinary,
mod 110.000 seamen and marines, the expense of these
three offices was 139,2271.: and in 1/421, when there are
only 119 ships in coomnission, 582 in ordinary, a
22,10 seamen and marine., the estimate for these three,
others is 155,1150/.. being only a retluetion of expense of
4,1771. in the sixth year of peace from that of the year

1813.
" That the expense of the Dock yard establishments
in England amounted in 1792 to 25,3521., in the year
1813 it amounted to 212,1431., and in 1821 the estimate
for the same yards is 210,7451., being in the sixth year
of peace, only 1,398/. less than in the year 1813 ; that the
expense of theestablishment of the different foreign dock-
vents in 1813 was 32,369/., and the estimate for 1821 is
31,951/., being 1,591/. more in the sixth year of peon
than in time of war.
" That the sum voted for the ordinary estimates of
the Navy in 1792 amounted to 672,482/. ; the sum voted
for the ordinary estimate of the Navy in 1813, alnount
ed to 1,757.928/. ; and the ordinary estimate for 1821 is
2,484,6001., being 1,812,1 M. more than the estimatloe of,
1792, a year of peace, and 726,67* more than in 131
a year of extended warfare.
" That the total supply voted for the service of the
year in 1792 was 1,985,4i21., with 16,048) seamen and
marines; that in 1819 the supply of 5,985,115/., with
19,000 seamen and marines, was voted, and the estimate
for 1821 is 6,382,7861., with 22,000 seamen and marines,
being 397,371/. more in 1821 than in 1817, and being
4,497,3041. more in 1821 than in 1792."
Sir 0. WA RREN DER said, that sums voted in 1792
were different front the actual amount of the expendi-
tore—the expenditure far exceeded the sums voted.
With respect to the Admiralty Office and the Navy Of-
fices, the expenditure of those offices was formerly met
by fees which have since been abolished. With respect
to the Dock-yard, the system of the navy had been alto-
gether chaaged. He would not trouble the House with
any general statement, because be felt that until the
House went into the Committee, when the various de-
tails would be laid before them, nothing could be satis-
factorily stated. When the details should be accurately
wide in the Committee, the Hon. gentleman would find
Alibis views of the various branches of expenditure
%we inaccurate.
Mr. HUME said he would not press his motion to a

division. -
The original question was then carried, and the House
resolved itself into a Committee.
Sir IiEOKOE WARR EN DER, after some observa-
tions which were not audible in the gallery, said that
the system which had formerly been pursued with re-
wet to the dock-yards, had been entirely altered. For-
merly, the officers in the dock-yards participated in the
wages received by the workmen, and therefore so far
from being a check upon abuses, it was their interest to
encourage abuse. An entirely new system was now
acted upon; officers bad now no interest in promoting
abuse—they looked for promotion, which could be only
attained by their zeal in the public service, and their
gerrend good conduct. In consequence of the new 'yr
tem, a number of new officers were necessarily appointed.
and hence grew up the establishment to what it now was.
The object of the Admiralty for the last 5 years was. to
pnt the fleet into the most efficient state, and be was
to put the fleet into tha must efficient state, and he was
happy to say that in that object they huller succeeded•
Every effort was made to promote economy. and before
the close of the present year considerable redactions in
various departments would, he bad every reason to
hew,, be be carried into efect.—(ilear, hear. boor.)—fin
was an excess of HAM. by thermos& to this diacovtry,
ships and the expense of the Hoard of Longitude.
law expenses, too, happen,/ to be this year MOON.
us" of SAW. The expenses of antverr sloor

sellegillal Fend, which Gould
me" advantage In time of peace. There
tbde year which bad not been in the "
sytteaprplywthhiedichwarge sot'
Oireell nthweiehlasfliospital.
button to Greenwich Hospital was;
from the Inky of each seaman. As t
men was small in the time of peace,
to supply the deficiency by a specific
Naval Asylum tbere was a vote last
It was intended to connect it with .._
with, and there would be a considerable
officers. The grant this year proposed
He should now propose a vote for
the Navy of 2,484,599/. I Is. Id.
Mr. BERNAL said, the pitta(
which had been drawn by the
was very agreeable ; but there was
in the mode in which the vote was
He hoped it would be divided into
discussed separately.
Sir U. WARRENDER said, be
meet the wishes of the llonourabl
the mode in which the vote was
according to (with one exception',
tire. Bat, however, so little had ,
obstacles in the way of full discussion,
votes prepared in the way desk-
bear.)—He had thought it his dul
situation which he filled, to first '
cording to usage, but he had prepared
votes.—(Hear, and laughing.)—He
to withdraw the vote, and to propose
for the expenses of the Admiral,.
Mr. BERNAL said, that there
items in this vote which he object(
in the composition 'of the Boar
Navy was reduced, the labour of
Sneed, and their number should I.
were silt Lords (besides the Fii
1000/. a year each, two of which'
reduce. This mode of saving w'
discharging Clerks who had to ,
or 150/. a year. There was also .
Scotland, whose office the Commie
recommended for abolition; the
would he 10001. a-year. The Paymin
had 10001. a-year; whether it was
tints Paymaster for the Marines
certainly if it was, the duty migl
formed for 5001. a year. He I
take away one half. He shots,
suction of 350U1. by which the
to 67,091 i/.
Sir 0. COCKBURNE said, t
ral of Scotland was held by
could nut be abolished surer
sent holder. He conceived si
necessary to conduct the bitsi
Board. The contrary notion
had arisen from the idea tl
more of a military than a c;
fact was, that on the civil
was more business and more
on the other. It was peculi.
Admiralty, that it was neces,
Boards within itself, for one '
sometimes obliged to repair
the business was also to be
It might be said two conhl
were the worst number that
if there was a difference of
stand still. One was a num'
great opinion—(A laugh)
man who could be found w‘
strength enough to stay at
four, and again in the House
morning, he should vote for
leaving one for each divisiot
sible. The Lorl High Ads
less than six assistants. A(
sons who should compose the
feels, right that there shon/
not n.ean to say absolutely
lawyer would be a very good
lutely necessary to have wet'
now that the affairs of the
state of confusion.
Sir JOSEPH YORKE
have induced him to have
sion Innate extraordinary
just heard from his Hon..
sidering, however, that the
state of extreme poverty ,
the Britannia, the Caledos
they were not coms•letely wa
feet water in their holds--(
the duty of the captain, the -
he meant by that metaphos
asml the Representatives of
and all, to the s arty of ear)
to prevent them from sin:
upon his mind he rose to i
present question. He had
speeches of the Right H(
retrenchment was the onl.
remained to this great
(Hear.)—Ile did not mean
'ion that such was th^ case
'bud never heard a direct
IL by his lion. Friend he's.),
I the white head.—(Cheet
repeated that he had not
(question; but it was intt
silent when he heard a
sines' of the Admiralty,
Witted to assert that lie
had been a Lord of the
could not be transacted
then," said his Hon. al
the civil lords a:e earl
relative to the navy of
the case, of which, till ,
then his Hon. and gallant
the Navy, ought to be
from the office which he
\,.
, himself than benefit to '
also to be three navalLortls,
ism agreed, and there
them if there wereonly
i dere Lords, two of then* iy .
MI6 other always acted me part
Ilinglatter.)—Tese-rWil geottemes
foal,saying as few
plat!) all annual
lie liatagMfarkites it
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there weans charge else he wallet for the pi of taking his females. and Uallaot Frimed(lll4. Ifeehe). theithelmol listesell i
to Estimates a this With .teiteed to the sr paid to, the Lords a the with the greatest pais to the ohoevemine el hie Oat-
yeaes--32,000i. to Mnakalty, he would not wish to diminish it. Till Is Friend, from whom, after baeiag glees him his 1.
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capital. The contri- the year 1604,3.000/. a year was the salary of the entire confidence for so easy yew% he mettalaly n- 4...
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is, certain proportion First Lord of the Admiralty. Then it was raised to posted better things. The pia wisb which he had
i the number of sea- MOW- Now. if Qui former salary was intended as the heard him was increased by the eireuntstasee that his
ice. it was necessary may remuneration for a Cabinet Minister, it was sot observains "ewe a 'stare *hick relieved byes from ;
cific vote. For the sufficient; but if he enjoyed it along with that arising the task of replying to them. lineb as be should
we year of 14,0001. oat of another office, he looked upon it to be quite have regretted site 'task of ilechnegiug seeh a duty,
the school at Green- sufficient. He therefore thought that it was a salary be regretted still more the nose which relieved him
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dderable reduction of to which the attention of the House might safely be frees it —(Hear.) If there was see man in the country
warned was 8,0001. directed. The Marquess Camden had received the whom he (Mr. Croker) would have repasd as the
or the Ordinaries of thanks of Parliament for giving up his sinecure; but last that would descend to
a Noble Lord, a relation of his own, when First Lord a situation at the expense of honour, and integrity of
:ore of retrenchment of the Admiralty, bad given up 4,0001. of the salary, conrience, it was his Gallant Friend (Sir J. Yorke;) ..
Honourable Baronet and no notice whatever had been taken of his doing and he certainly was mortified to learn from bit own
was a great difficulty so. The Gallant Admiral concluded by stating that mouth, when he bad voted so often with them
ras presented to them. he meant no personal offence to any gentleman in the on this question in the House, that be bad not I. .
to separate votes, and remarks which he had uttered ; but he was of opinion done so spontaneously from aconvictios of the rectitude
transacted by 5 as by 7 Lords.--(Hear.)
that the businets ef site Admiralty could be as well of such a line of conduct; but that be was influenced 11
Ice bad every desire to simply by a love of office. He should leave that, how-
ole Gentleman, though lir. ROBINSON, in answer to his Gallant Friend ever, to his own conscieace, assuring him that he n-
and relative (Sir J. Yorke), said it was quite new to vet felt greater pain than in making these etesevations.
s now proposed was •
n) the invariable prae- him that the Civilian Lords were, as it was termed Having been nearly drirteen years connected with the
He (Mr. 11.) had the honour of a seat at Board of Admiral-y, he might perhaps be allowed to . ,
ad lie wished to throw "Dummies."
mission, that be had the Admiralty Board for some years, which be had ac- s
iced.—(A laugh. and. cepted at the urgent request of his Right Hoe. Bela- is
say something with respect to its constitatioa; and 1 k
live then at the head of the Board, and be bad found •
e must say that it was such as was highly osefel.
dust, standing in the
himself fully employed. Far from being sinecures, he and indeed, considering the nature and extent of its
1 propose the grant ac- duties, almost absolutely necessary. If he were obliged
in his conscience believed the places in question to be
wepared the separate
most efficient and useful offices. to decend to an estimation of the relative value of I• .
—He therefore begged the personal services of individuals at that Board, i e
repose a vote 70,b961. Sir J. YORKE said he should he sorry to have per-
sonally hurt his Right lion. Friend (Mr. Robinson). should certainly say that he preferred the services I (
Ity•OffiCe.
certainly the offices in question bad not been useless— rendered by some Civilians to those rendered by
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'ere were two or three some of the Naval Officers. He gave this as his boort
,ected to. The first was (a laugh,)—for after his Right Hon. Friend had been
rand of Admiralty ; the cradled in that nursery of sucking Statesman, as it opinion, without Meaning any thing
.personal. As to
had been called, he had got from thence by a hop, c
eta either in that Douse or at the Board, acting !
certain Jleinhers of that Board being in the situation of • i
if the Admiralty was re-
be reduced also. There step and jump, till be found himself seated on th p
e uppei
and moving only at the will, and under the direction of I.
First Lord), who bad Treasury Bench as Cabinet Minister.—(A laugh).
li he should propose to others, he %veld take upon himself to say, that it was a
(could be better than the Mr. R. WARD hail had the honour of sitting at the most unjust representation, and that the Lords Oho:. I
support families on lOW. Board of Admiralty fur four years, and supported the I to, were in alt respects must efficient servants of the
so the 'Vice Admiral of assertion of the Right Honourable Treasurer of the Pullin', and would bear the comparison with any other i
mmittee of Finance had Nary. public to ficer of a lar rank of any departnieut. /le
he saying by this other 1 Sir U. COCK BURNE explained.
WAS of Jpinion that if any reduction of two were made
rmaster of Royal Marines I
di s- Mr. CRF.EVEY said, they had heard a Gallant Of- in the somber of the itoard, it ought to he one Civilian
is necessary to have a dts- and one Naval Lord. When he talked of the diminution
fiver who had sate years at Go. Admiralty Boar.[. who lof the Lords of the Admiralty, it was to be nnderstoei
s he much doubted, but' I
declared that the two Lords in question were useless, I that it never could be contemplated but with the pie-
ght be well enough per-
should propose only to I and a Right Honourable Gentleman who had also been 'sum ption that the remaiuing Lords should give their
sold therefore more a re- at the Admiralty Board, declared that they were use c..nitant at at
at the Board. In that anise n 'lure o p
le vote would be reduced ' fahl
Between them, he should judge fur himself, and I
they would be worLitie like cleric it would be impel- 1.11 : ;
Ise certainly could not see the use of them. Ile begged *Bale to give them less than the salary of an Under Fe-
, the office of Vice-Aslini- ir
. the Committee to loeh at the eitnati in which they cretary of State, which far from being a saving of t, e , .
v patent, and therefore Iv__
were placed ; they were in a Committee professedly public money would Ie an encreased expenditure of 4,
ing the life of the pre-•,'
voting supplies for the nary, but they were in reality BY that means the constitution of time Board a on'et I. .
it Lords to be absolutely ght slenabers of Parltament.—he altered, am to j would be obliged to pay the -or,'
voting supplies for ei . • lti • • I I i
siness of the Admiralty
• (year.)—cis.: live Lords of the Admiralty, one Clerk co ttt I t °eine it, in salary, what they now paid them ia
our. With regard to the Ilono.nratee
n which hail got abroad, 1
to the Board, one Treasurer, amid one Comptroller of dignity and I
that the A
Admiralty aat the Navy. lie should not be surprised if these eight Member fur Aberdeen, he had made his observations in
civil nature; whereas the Members voted fur their own salaries ;—(ilear, hear)— that spirit of candour and temper, that they deserved
side of the board there I
anti the Gentle:nen of other public departments would to be met with eeplatiatisona in the same spirit. lie .)
re clerks employed than Ido the same for them as they had done for the Gentle- should avoid following him into detail on the subject
iar to the nature of the men of other Boards ; so that he could tell to a of the Marines, as that subject would hereafter be
essary for it to have two farthing what reduction would be made in the Navy brought fully before the house by the lion. Member A\ •
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body of the Lords were .-. •
rastimates, viz. exactly the same that had been made himself, when time Returns he had moved for should be 1 ~.
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it to the °Oporto, while •
in the Army Estimatee, nothing.—(llear.)--If a plain laid before the House. lie would merely advert to
c carried on in London. man saw persons acting as trustees of his property, his animadversions on what he termed the sinecure cep-
form a Board—but tie, 0 voting sums to one anotfigrilihis way, he would say, pointmeats of the superior Officers 1
of the corps m.f m
at could be conceived, lOW "Gentlemen, you a:e taking much better care of Marines. He (Mr. Creker) was ready to admit t'.at
f opinion they came to a yourselves than of me." Till there was some better they were sinecures, as far as regarded honours ; but ,
miser of which•
he had a •
arrangement on this .object, there would be no end Ise could only say that they had nothing uncommon, • i :-.:
l; and if there was one-
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with sufficient ability, and
to the waste of public money. He was proposing no- if the Hoeourable Gentleman did not look upon those
tiring( so wild. Ile wished to see one person for each seven sinecures, which were the only counter-
t the Board from nine to departmentbalance to all the Isimours of another branch of the
in the Homier, but that was enough.—at justifiably. If he could point out a
ise from four to two in the Time army was a model in this respect. The Noble Prdessi".
• reducing the Lords to two, Secretary at War managed all the business in the House : single instance of any one of those officers being cep- o
lon. But this was nut pos- why should there be eight persons from the Naval De- pointed from favour, he would grant it was an minute,
,dmiral anciently had never partment :. but he was satisfied he could not. The name of the
s to time description of per. C
Sir I. O w
FFIN wished to know ► hether the Gal- heat General that t 1 ould be found on the list was Earl
St. Vincent--(llear.)—The next was Sir R. Bicker- •
he Board, he thought it per. lint Officer (Sir J. Yorke) had expressed his present
ton. The other was then present and uitiiin beerier,
uld be three civilians (he did opinion of the Admiralty during the * years that he
civil lawyers, though a civil hail a seat there ?—(llear, and a laugh.) he should therefore refrain from noticing his merit..
—*llia Honourable Gentleman next complained of the
food thing.) It was abace Sir J. YORKE said, if his Gallant Friend had been 1 ,
yell read civilians, especially there, lie would have been dumb also. The very non- Irlrds "f the Admiralty "relying half as well
.as the salary attached to th-ir situations. In the first
whole world were in such a mesa lie (Sir J. Yorke,) uttered a word of that kind,
..._,(A i lace, it would not beverygracbious to deny them a .l‘
his ale
would have been to the Admiralty
I Privilege which was allowed to e enjoyed by in IV I-
laugh.)
said that nothing would duals of the humblest classes in all the public offices
risen upon the present ores- Mr. HUME said, it was evident, according to the I
and, besides, 1,0001. a-year would not suffice to sup- ) ‘
y laneuage which he had Gallant Officer's (Sir 6. Cockburne's) own statement
port the dignity of their exalted stations. The same
1 s' .1
and Gallant Friend. Con- that it was only the necessity of attending time House . .
, remark might apply to time situation of Private Seer,-
se country was reduced to a which made so many Lords requisite. Ile observed that 'Cary, which was one of such high confidence and
. ; and that the great ships it was only a few years since the Naval
.Lords had theirever ougat
trust, that nu Lord of the Admiralty had th I
half-pay as well as their. salaries.
. He. wished to know
300/. sleet an adequate compensation to a man of the •
:lonia, and the Hibernia if
whether there was any intention of bringing them hack
water-logged had at least six
y--(year, hear)—it became in this respect to their former condition; the Gallant talent and education which the office required. The
Officer (Sir 6. Cockbarne) had also he believed pay aa Hon. and
had adverted to the Paymaster of time
me officers and the crew, and Lieut.-Colonel of slerines. Though the vote for Marines alertness, whom he thouVit too highly paid for his of-
See. The lion. Gentleman di
but I d not knowor Quer
, perhaps
or the King, the Ministers, had palmed, be felt it necessary to remark on 141111 e es-
that he was nut only Paymaster, nspect-
of the people, to look, one travagant expense under that head. There were v.a.!ou•
each ehip, and to do their best `"arias in the navy in the higher ranks, who received
ts.r-Master and Barrack-Master, standing in fact at
ikinE various sums from 5/. a day downwards, amonnting in
_. With this conviction I
fished. The marliws appointment of Paymaster of the Widows' Pension.,
all to 21)1. a day, or 7,3011/. a vear. These were pure the head of the corps. In his animadversions on the
I say a few "ells upon the sinecurea, and ought to be at°
Lad often heard it said, in the were divided into fear division.--Woolivich, t liatham• the Hoe. lien:lemen Nth not await% that since its first
lon. Gentleman opposite, that Portsmouth, and Plymouth. There was a Paymaster" establithment the duties of that office had been qua-
dy means of salvation which Establishment for each division, so tisat there was the drupleol, as the payments were made four times a•vear.
a and independent nation,— enormous charge of tire thonsanol pound.% for paying .
Ide 0-violent of the great increase uf pensions. He be-
an to state that it was his opt- hived he bad gone through most of the topics pressed .
eight thunsand men, atom t lit.. per man. 'there was also " I
cane; but he must say that be upon on this occasion. hives impossible in the coarse
the expense of the Staff for each division. He eu
that the divisions should be consolidated, er the Staff
t answer given to the assertion of one night to bring all the arguin.hta to bear on
goested
aw him, the gentleman with expenses reduced. The next appointment to whiah he
each point distinctly, but those who desired more full
ers and lati4hter.)-11e affair objected was that of the Private Secretary to the First ,
stitormation. he referred to the Report of the Commit-
tee, which had already sat amid reported upon those
I intended to speak upon the Lord of the -Admiralty. The Gentleman who held this
subjects.
apossible, he said, to eontinoe office (Mr. Ha) time also, it appeared, one of the Com-
Sir J. YORKE expressed great esteem for his Hon. ,
declaration made, that the bit- misaioners of ictualling Board, and derived front
~ of which he might be per- both these offices no less than LBW. a-year. Now either Friend whim had just sat down, but observed, that he
had some know ledge, as he one or the other must he a sinecure, as one Gentleman did not think their friendship such a rope of mind as
to Admiralty for eight years,
could not attend to two efficient offices; and conceiving cuald be broken by his (Sir J. Yorke's) conscientious
I with less than six lords. .• lint that of the Private Secretary to be of that description, decleration,that upon the ground uf economy the imai.
and gallant Friend, " three of
aged in making all the contracts he thought that office should be abolished. The Pay- nese of the Board of Admiralty might be as well done
by five as by seers Lords.
ifsuch were master of Widow's Pensions should also be abolished ;
Mr. BENNE!' expressed his surprise wt the asser-
Tll,l
1 the country."
for all the duties belonging to that office might be per
Soo of the Hoe. Secretwey. as to tlictieressity amid gee-
that moment, he was unaware,
last frieni, the Comptroller of formed by any Commissiorier of the Navy Board, or eves
fulness of all the present Lords of the Admiralty, tatt-
led Itriession to ashy gitetiser some of .the-Lay Lords • •1
discharged as a supernumerary Iby any Clerk of that Board. But It was evident that
he filled with no less credit to I en am in the dialott of affixiog their Osumi to Mask 4i •$
ated as a Commie-,
this officer could have no usaterial duty to perform, sir ---m.
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papers, in order to redeye theisisefeee:ftoeseile wee- • .
i the public. But then there werei he (Mr.`Hatton) had been superannu
Lords, because two of a trade*l- 1 sinner of Stamps, in consequence of his inability to it-
sitv ter personal attendance et theAtardie Or *eh had
e two.: be a difference between 1 tend that Board. Yet to this Gentleman it
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remit only were allowed t°_,l'Ask; t master of the Widows' Pensions. Under all the corisi- aseh maw • .
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geeidetates seemed also to Ile'itery i
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000/. a year oeglit to be Ilk. ititIOST. after aemse ' fasibmweeellftWispeel the: *.
proiligti upstater* of the . eoresi- •
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sawastisimaireed..masia educe so iin the expediter* of the department it/ Afar he deastille.mapeoseet hialipten 'ti 4.8 r spec— Me
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