The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-01-07 00:00:00

IS NOW OPEN.

The Corporation of Liverpool having grouted the site of
the late OBSERVATORY, ST. JAMES'S WALK, a neat and
elegant Building has been erected therkn, in which the
PHOTOGRAPHIC APPARATUS, th discovery of which
is ranked among the greatest scientific achievements of the
present age, is Dow in DAILY OPERATION.
THE PRICE FOR EACH PORTRAIT, INCLUDING
A FRAME, IS ONE GUINEA.
JOHN RELPH, Manager.

Specimens may be seen, and Orders received, at Mr: LA-
CEY'S REPOSITORY OF ARTS, 100, Bold-sheet.

ROYAL AMPHITHEATRE

Under the Management of Mr. EGERTON, Sole Lesoee,

Overflow and great success of DUCROW'S splendid and
talented LONDON ESTABLISHMENT, with his peer-
less and pre-eminent STUD of beautiful HORSES !
THIS EVENING, (Friday,) and TO-MORROW, (Satur-
day,) will be repeated, for the Last Two Nights, the splen-
did Spectacle, performed on Tuesday Evening under the
patronage of the Earl of SEFTON and a crowded assem-
blage of rank and fashion, THE CONQUEROR'S
STEED.
FEATS OF THE ARENA ! by French, German, British,
and Italian hiders.
Notwithstanding the great popularity and encouragement
bestowed upon The Conqueror's Steed, the Short Slay of
the Company in Liverpool will oblige its representation to
be limited to this week only, to give way for the production
of another New Spectacle, on a more extensive scale, on
MONDAY NEXT, entitled THE HORSE OF THE
PYRENEES; or, THE SPANISH BULL FIGHT !
which will be aided by New and Splendid Appointments.
The-Company are on their FINAL PROVINCIAL TOUR.

THIS present FRIDAY EVENING, the 7th, and TO-
MORROW, (Saturday,) the Rth instant, the Enter-
tainments will commence with Mr. Ducrow's London Grand
Equestrian Romance, founded upon the Crimean War of
Independence, entitled
THE CONQUEROR'S STEED, KARABAGH ;

OR, THE PROPHET OF THE CAUCASUS.
The Spectacle on the Stage will be followed by
DUCROW'S
SPLENDID SCENES OF THE CIRCLE.
Presenting an Entire Change of Equestrian Novelties, and
Ninth Appearance in Liverpool of the Troop of French,
German, Italian, and English Riders, with extraordinary
Acrobat and Antipodean Professors, introducing an entire
new characteristic Entree, by Thirteen; Horses and their
Riders, entitled The Flight of the Ara s; or, The Bedouin
Tribe, conducted by Signor Hillier.
LE PETIT DUCROW as The Lilliputi n Fox Hunter; or,
Young Meltonian.
My Grandmother on Horseback ; or, e Sweep and Millers.
Signor HILLIER will appear in a Characteristic Scene, en-
titled Recoe of the Alps and his Horse of Pastime.
Succeeded by Signor ALLARD, who will appear on a Single
Steed, as The Wild Horseman.
Madame ALLARD, the Great French Female Equestrian, will
appear and execute some peculiar Feats of Riding on a
Single Horse.
Mr. HICKEN will appear in his Military Delineation, on a
Single Horse, of The Death of a Soldier.
The ANTIPODEAN PROFESSOR will occupy the intervals with
his Wonderful Exercises of Flexibility.
Riding Masters, Signor HILLIER, Mr: WIDDICOMB, and
Mr. CHAPMAN.

To conclude with
TURTLE HUNTING.

Principal Characters by Mr. H. Beverly, Mr. and Mrs
Weston, (their first appearance this season,) &c.

A splendid JUVENILE FETE, or Grand MORNING
PERFORMANCE, by Mr. DUCROW'S ESTABLISHMENT,
will be given on FRIDAY next, the 14th instant, by desire
of several Families and Schools in the neighbourhood. Per-
formance to commence at Twelve o'clock precisely.

Private Boxes may be obtained nightly for Families on
application to Mr. F. CARMAN, at the Box-office, from
Eleven until Three o'Clock.

Prices of Admission :—Centre Dress Boxes, 3s. ; Side
Boxes, 2s. Gd. ; Pit, is. Gd ; Lower Gallery, Is. ; Upper
Gallery, 6d. Second Price, at Nine o'Clock :—Centre Dress
Boxes, 2s. ; Side Boxes, Is. 6d. ; Pit, Is. ; Lower Gallery,
6d. No Second Price to the Upper Gallery. Second Price
will be taken for Children under Twelve years of age to the
Boxes only.

Doors to be opened at Half-past Six and the Performances
to commence at Seven o'Clock precisely.
Stage Manager, Mr. H. BEVERLY.
Leader of the Orchestra, Mr. T. HUGHES, from the
Theatre-Royal, Drury-lane.

Eiji 7Ltbcrpoot &tanbarb.

FRIDAY MORNING, JANUARY 7, 1842

The school question is at length happily settled, and
we congratulate all who are interested in the cause of
sacred truth, and the permanence of our most valued
institutions, on the result. The Conservative Corpo-
ration of Liverpool has honourably done its duty, and
leaves us, in the completeness of their work, without
any thing more to desire. It could not have been se-
riously imagined by any calm looker-on that a Conser-
tive Council would perpetuate a Radical system. Such
an anomaly, it would necessarily feel to be a foul dis-
grace—the burgesses would not tolerate—and yet, the
Liberals, in their despair, did actually hope to main-
tain, reckoning chiefly on the division which they sup-
posed the question would create, or prolong, among
their opponents. They have reckoned without their
host ; their game is up ; the school question is now
decided against them by a long chalk, and we wish
them all the compliments of next season. In the inte-
resting and animated discussion to which the question
gave rise in the council, and which we report at great
length in our columns, to-day, we find nothing so re-
markable as the confirmation given in various ways to
the resolution eventually carried. The very petition
presented against it, by Mr. Aikin, from the Radical
gentry (our old friend Sir Joshua Walmsley among
the rest) of Castle-street Ward, serves to show that
the inhabitants of Liverpool generally are decidedly
for it. We ascertain the existence of the rule by so
remarkable an exception. It was perfectly well known
throughout the town that on Wednesday the council
would pronounce fihally and conclusively upon the
question, and yet there is but one solitary petition
against it—but one petition signed by the stupendous
number of fifty out of all the numerous inhabitants
of this huge to Am! Mr. Aikin could not have adduced
more striking proof that the council were about to act,
and have since acted, in accordance with the wishes of
the great and overwhelming body of their constituents
—and we can state with confidence, that their wise de-
termination has given rise to a feeling of satisfaction
through the town which is all but universal.
Again, if we advert to the different speeches and
observations made in the course of the discussion, we
are proud to admit—from the utter absence of anything
in the shape of rational argument on the Radical side,
that no other step remained to be taken but that which
has been wisely and prudently taken in the matter. If
the solitary petition from Castle-street Ward, with its
paltry appendage of signatures, made it apparent that
all other wards, and all the rest of the inhabitants, or ,

nearly so, were acquiescent in the conservative propo-
sitions—so the solitary champion (for we must
call him so) of the expiring system—Mr. Alderman
Earle—its boldest, bravest, wittiest, and, every way,
most accomplished orator, rendered it evident that the
thing itself was, altogether, indefensible. We have
never observed the alderman in greater force ; but
vain were all his gifts, profound knowledge, tact, and
experience in the attempt to uphold so bad a cause:
and literally all his best exertions amounted to no more
than a few buffooneries, and laughter-moving grimaces
(seasonable only as a holidaypastime), over the already
defunct arrangements. He rambled a little, it is true,
about the history of the late system—the hatred borne
by Conservatives towards the Catholics—entertained
his audience with anecdotes, or would have done so,
had he been permitted to indulge himself at discretion ;
but his grand cheval de battaile was the minister
of St. Jude's Church. Mr. M`Neile, said he, ad-

vocates scriptural education, aye, even in our corpo-
ration schools; and let me ask you, gentlemen, will
you bear that ? Will you coincide in opinion with a
man who has absolutely turned your city upside down
with his preaching, and so infused the leaven of Chris-
tian conservatism through all ranks of its inhabitants,
that no radical candidate has a chance of representing
us—no municipal candidate of that ilk may hope here-
after to sit in this council, and I, even I Alderman
Earle, am here perhaps the very last of the Mohicans !
Gentlemen, on this ground mainly, chiefly and espe-
cially, I implore you to preserve the discipline of radi-
calism in your educational institutions. Is it not enough
to induce you to cherish and maintain it, to know
that this most troublesome and disturbing clergyman
condemns it. Abolish that system, and what will be
the consequence ? Why you will be found concurring
in sentiment with and approved in your practice by the
Rev. Hugh M'Neile ! Think of that! The Alderman now
fancied himself in a pulpit of his own, and became
exceedingly diverting. The part of clown was never
more amusingly performed. One of the members
having reminded him, that if Mr. M`Neile were pre-
sent to answer his observations, perhaps he might not
feel himself quite so valiant. " Tut,", said our modern
Falstaff, " I encountered him once, and he ran away
front me like a coward" ! Such was the species of

farce with whi

Oita great rind valarona champion of
liberal education concluded the case of his clients and
party, 'We now leave him in the hands of Mr. Bush-
ell, who has done great credit to himself for the very
able manner in which he acquitted himself. His
speech was a continued triumph over all his oppo-
nents, and we congratulate him cordially on the im-
mortal honour he has gained for himself by the inde-
pendence of judgment, soundness of view, and elo-
quence and talent which he has manifested in no or-
dinary degree on this interesting and important occa-
sion. To the same efficient hands we gladly consign
also that most incomprehensible of Conservatives, Mr.
John Smith. Really we wish his ward a better repre-
sentative; and fear we shall have to call upon his 'con-
stituents at the next opportunity to pause and consider
well before they send so eminent a waverer, by way of
a Conservative, into the Council.

Thus all our great questions in this great town are
now brought to a happy consummation—and all is
homogeneous in our institutions. We are Conserva-
tives in every respect, and long may we continue so !
And here no taunts, no sneers, no vilification of the
adversary shall prevent us offering our most unre-
served acknowledgments to one individual, to whom,
under God, we do believe these great results are in the
most eminent degree owing. We need not name him;
all Liverpool, which is indebted to him in an amount of
obligation that it never can repay, will with one voice
proclaim the Rev. Gentleman to whom we allude.
The " Lion of St. Jude's" is indeed our Wellington.
He, it is, who has led us on from victory to victory,
until all is now ours, and we have no more enemies to
conquer. There is as yet no column, nor statue to
record his services; but they are fresh in the memory,
and in the hearts of thousands. We could say much
upon this agreable theme, but much it is not necessary
to say at present to the thinking and observing people
of Liverpool. They fully appreciate all the disinterested,
and incalculably valuable labours of this gifted Champ-
ion, and we trust are grateful for the essential benefits
which he has been the means of conferring upon their
locality.

It is justly observed by Lord Aberdeen, in his offi-
cial correspondence with the American minister, Mr.
Stephenson, that if America were anxious to protect
and encourage the African slave trade, instead of be-
ing, as she professes to be, exceedingly desirous of
suppressing it, she could not take a more suitable
course for such purpose than that which she has taken
with respect to the right of search ; and there is no-
thing in the communications of Mr. Stephenson cal-
culated in any degree to invalidate the observation.
The envoy of the republic loves to disport himself on
the lofty pinnacle of his nation's absolute independ-
ence—her right to navigate the globe by her merchant
ships, unquestioned by European or any other power—
her freedom of choice, and her ability to defend it;
but he evidently shrinks from meeting the question on
the ground of plain and practical common sense. He
leans upon the opinion of an eminent jurist of this
country, that the slave trade is not, (or was not in his
time,) by the law of nations, piracy; and that though
conventional engagements between any given number
of independent states may make it such, so far as those
states are themselves concerned, yet that the ancient
international law still continues in force, and " dealing
in slaves" does not, even now, constitute an act of
piracy by the subjects of a state which has not en-
tered into the alliance. Lord Aberdeen does not ab-
solutely deny this proposition ; but he evidently thinks
that such " law" is getting somewhat musty, and
would be far more honoured " in the breach than in
the observance." But is it not a suspicious circum-
stance to find the representative of America hunting
out a judgment pronounced by Lord Stowell, many
years ago, and availing himself of this loophole to re-
lieve American subjects from the consequences of an
act of piracy, supposing them to be caught in the fact
of trading in slaves, and transporting them as mer-
chandize in vessels of their own ? Is not the argu-
ment, so far as it goes, an argument in favour of sla-
very, and is not the whole course of the American
proceeding manifestly calculated to invest the abomi-
nable traffic with an important and dangerous amount
of protection—the protection which it would derive if
the simple hoisting of the American flag should at
once forbid all inquiry respecting the papers or owner-
ship of vessels engaged in the service ?

Mr. Stephenson is anxious to establish that slave-
trading is not, by the old law of nations, a piratical
offence; but is international law like the law of the
Medes and Persians ? It is the desire of the present
day to change the law in this respect, and the American
envoy cannot deny that it is perfectly competent for
civilised nations to make the desired amendment; the
question is, why America alone recedes from the con-
vention, why she is found contending against it, and
standing out upon that very antiquated law which it is
the wish of all other states not only to render obso-
lete, but entirely to abrogate ?
The right of search, as explained by Lord Aber-
deen, which is claimed on our part, is one which it is
necessary to maintain and insist upon, if it is intended
that our convention with other states respecting the
African slave trade shall not be rendered nugatory.
The American flag must not be used as a passport to
piracy. To admit that it should serve as a signal to
warn off our cruisers—as a noli me tangere to all in-
quirers—would be tantamount to giving up the sup-
pression of the slave trade altogether. But on the
other hand, with all the caution which could be exer-
cised—all the desire possible not to cause trouble or
delay to bona fide American citizens when encountered
in the African seas under suspicious circumstances—
it is not at all unlikely that collisions of an unpleasant
kind might take place which would endanger that re-
lation of peace and friendly alliance which ought to
subsist between the countries.

We are about to pursue the only prudent course left
us under existing circumstances, and that is, to press
upon the Americans, in the spirit of friendship and
true philanthropy, the fitness and desirableness of their
acceding to a treaty for the purpose of placing not only
the right, but the exercise of mutual search beyond
the reach of all petty cavils. It is another honourable
effort on our part in behalf at once of unhappy Afri-
cans, and of that peace with the nations of the world,
which, as a Christian country, it is our duty to make ;
and, let the issue be as it may, no reproach will rest
upon our heads.

Wherever you meet an unitarian, you will find a
griping, niggardly, selfish being who has only his own
narrow ends in view, and who cries down every thing,
however advantageous to the public, from which he
derives no gratification or emolument. •We wish this
was not an universal rule, and that we had not daily
instances of its truth forced upon our notice.
Take two from our columns of to day ; an extra
servant is required at the Town Hall, when up jumps
one of this notorious craft and wishes to push the
additional duty upon the officials already in the esta-
blishment, and who, if we mistake not, are sufficiently
occupied in their own departments. When the in-
habitants of a populous district are in need of a clock
on some conspicuous place, out shrieks another mem-
ber of this inflated body, "No, No, I cannot see it
from my house; I cannot hear it I" Let our readers
peruse the nonsensical conversation carried on at the
last Birkenhead Commissioners' Meeting, and we
think they will find a very edifying exhibition of liber-
ality from parties who boast much of their charity and
meekness. Cannot the ratepayers of Birkenhead dis-
pense with the services of those who will fight long,
and shout loud about a few pence, and who, if we
mistake not, are not over scrupulous as to the
management of the funds of the township, when there
is no opportunity of manifesting their hostility to the
church and her devoted ministers? Let the ratepayers
try, and they will find their affairs more economically
looked after, though probably with less ostentation and
bombast.

We may observe, that if the legal adviser of our
municipal body were to assume such a dictatorial tone
as the law clerk of these commissioners, he would not
work so amicably as he does at present with those
around him.

SINGULAR ROBBERY.—A singular robbery took place on
Monday last, at the Custom-house in this town. A gentle-
man went in to one of the departments to pay duty. He
placed a £lOO bank note on the counter whilst the proper
officer was calculating what was to pay. The gentleman
turned his back for a moment to the counter. On turning
round again, he found, to his astonishment and consternation,
that the not, had disappeared. It is conjectured that it was
stolen by some person who was at the counter at the same
time.

LOCAL NEIV3

The Liverpool grand steeple chase is fixed for the 2nd of
March.

LARGE VESSEL.—One of the largest ships which has ar-
rived in this port for some time is now lying in the Brunswick
Dock. She is called the Greenock, and is 1400 tons burthen
per register. Her length is 2-10 feet, her outside timber 12
inches, and her inside 10 inches thick. She is a remarkably
tine vessel, and is consigned to Duncan Gibb and Co.
At Shrewsbury borough sessions, on Thursday, the grand
jury unanimously found a true bill against Mr. Onseley,
editor of the (Wimps/tiro Conservative, for a series of libels
upon Dr. Mackenzie. editor of the Salopian Journal. The
Recorder immediately issued a bench warrant against Mr.
Ouseley.

A PRETENDED FREEMAN.—John Brammell, farmer, of
Allertou, appeared before Mr. Rushton, on Tuesday, charged
with having evaded payment of the toil in the South Hay-
market, on the ground that he was a freeman. He was or-
dered to pay twopence, the amount of toll, in addition to a
fine of ten shillings and costs.
We understand that it is in contemplation by the friends of
the Rev. Dr. Ralph, of the Scotch Church, in Oltlham-
street, to present him with some mark of respect on occasion
of his removal to the ministry of Aberdour, in Fife. This
testimony is abundantly merited by the excellent services of
the doctor, during his residence in Liverpool ; and we are
glad to hear that the subscription is not likely to be limited
to the members of his own congregation.
Black ebony is now coming very generally into use for
window sashes and the sashes of shop fronts. It has a very
neat appearance, adding much to the lustre of the plate glass,
and, from its dark colour, does not attract the eye from the
goods exposed for sale, and is, therefore, far better than the
brass sashes for linen drapers shops, which, from its glare,
kills the brilliancy of the colours of the various articles.
CHARITABLE SOCIETY.—The visitors of this society have,
during the last month, made 578 visits to the abodes of
wretchedness and want, administering relief in bread, oat-
meal, and potatoes, and occasionally in articles of bedding,
to 331 families, consisting of 1389 persons. The continued
want of employment during the present severe weather,
presses heavily upon the labouring classes, and calls loudly
upon those who are blessed with an abundance of this world's
goods to assist this, and kindred societies, in alleviating the
distress which so extensively prevails.
UTTERING BASE COIN.—On Tuesday, Rowland Davis
was charged at the police-court with having uttered two base
shillings. It appeared that the prisoner, on Saturday night,
met two girls in Hanover-street, whom he offered to treat.
He gave one of them a shilling, and told her to go to Mr.
Aldersey's, and get a glass, which she did, and brought him
the change. He then pressed her to go and get another
glass, to obtain which he gave her a second shilling, which
she took to Mr. Aldersey, who, finding both shillings bad,
stopped the girls, and gave them into custody : they then
took him to the prisoner, who was also apprehended. The
girls were discharged, and the prisoner was remanded to
afford time for the depositions to be submitted to the officers
of the mint.

LIVERPOOL MARINE SOCIETY.—On Tuesday last the an-
nual meeting of this society was held at the rooms of the
Shipmasters' Association, Oldhall-street. William Potter,
Esq., presided. From the statement of accounts read by
Mr. Moss, the active and efficient secretary of the society, it
appeared that the annuities paid during the year had
amounted to £309. The receipts from marine and honorary
members, during the same period, had amounted to £55 13s.
The balance to the credit of the society was £10,627 155.-
1:-1200 of which was out at interest in the hands of the cor-
poration, £3300 in the hands of the dock trustees, £2330 in
the 3 and 31 per cent. stocks, and £731 in Leyland and Bul-
len's bank, leaving a small balance of £57 for the purpose of
carrying on the immediate demands of the society, in the
hands of the treasurer. There are 18 marine members be-
longing to the society, 23 widows, one superannuated cap-
tain, and one orphan, receiving annuities from its funds. It
was now proposed to allow the widows at the rate of £l3, and
the superannuated captains at the rate of £l7 per annum.
The appointment of officers was then proceeded with, most
of whom were re-elected. Applications for admission into
the society had been received from a great number of members.
STRANGERS' FRIEND SOCIETY.—The annual meeting of
this society was held on Wednesday, when the usual report
was read and adopted. From this document we learn that
through the liberality of the public, the visitors of this insti-
tution have been enabled to relieve about 3,000 families,
comprising about 15,000 individuals,) who have been found
in different stages of distress : most of them in a state of
entire destitution of the common necessaries of life, and al-
most in a state of despair. Some of them were foreign
strangers, several shipwrecked sailors, and a host of other
casual strangers in the town, who have been tempted by the
hope of employment to come and seek it at this great empo-
rium of trade, without being aware that the amount of work
to be obtained has been generally throughout the year far
less than the supply of candidates for employment. Through
the praiseworthy exertions of the visitors, however, these
cases have been relieved to the utmost extent that the funds
would allow, and the blessings of them " who were ready
to perish" have in numberless instances been invoked on the
kind and benevolent supporters of this charity. In addition
to the supply of bread, oatmeal, coals, &c., about 120,000
quarts of good nutritious and palatable soup have been like-
wise distributed amongst the necessitous poor during the
last winter, with as much care and discretion as possible.
The sum expended during the last year was £995, and there
was a balance due to the treasurer of 432

THE ROBBERY OF WATCH CASES.—OR Wednesday, at
the police-court, a young man, named Irvine, shopman to
Mr. M`Kenney, Paradise-street, was charged with pur-
chasing 19 pennyweights of gold at a sum considerably under
the real value, the gold being part of the valuable property
stolen from Mr. Lucas, a report of which appeared in the
Standard of the 31st ult.—Constable Ainsworth, jun., stated
that he had taken the prisoner into custody. The prisoner
had shown him a book, in which was entered the price he
paid for the gold. In examining the book, however, he found
a line had been written at a much later date, stating that a
balance of 17s. was still due to the person who sold it. On
questioning the prisoner respecting the insertion of this line,
he admitted that he bad been told to do so, for the purpose
of giving it the appearance of a fair transaction. A Mr. Cop-
pie purchased the gold from the prisoner afterwards, and on
sending it to Mr. Cobben to be examined, that gentleman
recognised it as being part of the stolen property, and gave
notice of this fact to Mr. Copple, who, for the purpose of
clearing himself from all blame, immediately waited upon the
prisoner, and received a certificate from him, stating the
amount he had paid for it, advising him, at the same time,
that it was part of the property stolen from Mr. Lucas. The
second entry in the book above alluded to, was made subse-
quently to this. Mr. Lucas's nephew swore to the property.
The prisoner said he had purchased the property from a per-
son whose name he did not know, but who had come to his
master's shop on various occasions in the way of trade. Mr.
Rushton sent the prisoner to trial, be having been committed
on a previous occasion.

THEATRE-ROYAL, MANCHESTER.--MR. CLARKE'S
FAREWELL BENEFLT.—As we anticipated, Mr. Clarke's
benefit, on Monday evening, was a bumper house. The pit
was crammed, and the dress circle was quite full. The up-
per boxes overflowed, to the half filling of the side-slips
above; and the gallery was full. It was one of the most
uniformly filled houses we have seen for some time. The
play was Morton's comedy of " Town and Country," which
was very strongly cast. As soon as the curtain fell, at the
close of the play, Mr. Clarke came forward, and was received
with the most enthusiastic plaudits, with which, in renewed
rounds, the house rang fora considerable time. When these
had at length ceased, Mr. Clarke addressed the house to the
following effect :—" Ladies and Gentlemen,—l am most
grateful to you for the kind and liberal manner in which you
have responded to this my last appeal to your favour. To
the public of Manchester, during the long period in which I
have had the management of this establishment, I am indebted
for a constant manifestation of good feeling towards me, the
recollection of which will always remain impressed upon my
memory. Ladies and gentlemen, much sincerity may be ex-
pressed in a few words; and the task now devolving upon
me is one which my feelings will not allow me long to dwell
upon. I, therefore, with a fervent hope that the new year
which has just dawned upon you,—with each succeeding one
of your lives,—may be fruitful to you in sources of increased
happiness and prosperity ; and with an earnest wish that you
may enjoy uninterrupted health, that best of all blessings,
most respectfully and gratefully bid you farewell." Mr.
Clarke appeared to be much affected during the delivery of
this brief address ; and he seemed much moved as he retired
rmidst the renewed cheering which closed upon his connec-
tion with the Manchester stage.—Manchester Guardian. .

ASSAULT AND ROBBERY.—On Tuesday a young woman
was charged before Mr. Rushton, with having committed a
robbery. Mr. Cox, a commercial traveller, was the person
who had been robbed, but he did not appear. A Mr. Mercer
said, he was on the preceding evening, at the house of Mr.
Gradwell, in Whitechapel, when the prisoner came in and
offered him a gold seal and a gold ring, requesting that he
would purchase them. He examined them, and observing
that the seal had initials on it in Old English, he suspected
that she had not got them honestly. He asked how she be-
came possessed of that seal and ring, to which she replied
that she had found them a short time previously in the street.
He told her that she was acting illegally to offer the articles
for sale till she had endeavoured to find the owner. The
goods, he informed her, were not hers, if she had found them,
but the property of the individual who had been so unfortu-
nate as to lose them. Being convinced that she had not come
honestly by the articles, he went in search of a police-officer,
with whom he returned to Mr. Gradwell's house. He met
the prisoner leaving the house, and gave her in charge to the
officer. As soon as she saw the latter, she shook hands with
a man who was speaking to her, and he (Mr. Mercer) had no
doubt, that in doing so, she had slipped the ring and seal into
his hand, as they could not afterwards be found upon her
person. He went with her to Duncan-street Bridewell, where
she was booked for the assault on him. They had scarcely
got the charge entered, however, ere Mr. Cox entered to com-
plain that he had been robbed, and he at once identified the
prisoner as the person who had stolenhis watch seal and key.
Mr. Cox was sent for, but it was discovered he had left Li-
verpool. The prisoner was remanded.
SUBSCRIPTION CONCERTS.—The first subscription con-
cert this season took place at the Theatre-Royal on Tuesday
evening, under the able management of Mr. Ashton. The
lower boxes were tolerably well filled with fashionably-dressed
parties : the upper boxes were also fairly attended. While
the gallery was, as far as we could perceive, full, the pit was
almost empty. This we regretted much to see—a circum-
stance arising, no doubt, from the absence of the prima
donna, Madame Caradori Allan, whose illness, as announced
some days ago, prevented her attendance. The manager
made great endeavours to supply her place, but unsuccess-
fully. An engagement, however, was made with Mr. Miller,
of Bath, to eke out the programme. We have no doubt the
disappointment on the part of the management was as great
as that of the public. In this concert throughout the instru-
mental portions completely threw the vocal into the shade ;
and though an encore was obtained for Mr. Miller's ballad
of " Village Bells," and an attempt for a third repetition,
made by some silly, simple folks in the gallery, it was a most
undeserved compliment, for greater rubbish never was palmed
upon the ears of a patient audience. The gem of the evening
was the " Andante and Rondo Russe," from De Beriot's
Grand Concerto in B, minor, by Mr. E. W. Thomas, on
the violin, who deserves the thanks of amateurs for intro-
ducing music of a high class, and playing it in admirable
style. Mr. Thomas is a very accomplished master of the
instrument, and proved himself deserving of the applause
bestowed. He afforded us a very great treat. His tone is
firm, while his execution is brilliant and replete with feeling.
The next feature worthy of notice was the " oboe solo" of
Mons. Barret, in which he introduced several Swiss melodies '
with a sweetness, tenderness of expression and skill that
must have given a Switzer an alarming attack of the maladie
du pays. Herr Koenig, on the cornet a piston, made the
" royal property" ring again with his stirring and heart-
thrilling notes. In the second part of the performance lie
kept the audience waiting his appearance so long, that their
patience became exhausted, and their feeling was exhibited,
on his entrance, in a manner that must have rather surprised
him. He played very cleverly Schubert's Seranade, "Through
the night's dark shadows," on the alto trombone, accom-
panied by Mr, Miller on the piano-forte. For some cause,
the trombone was laid aside, and the cornet a piston was
assumed : a brilliant air was played upon it with orchestral
accompaniments. The overtures to " Der Freischutz" and
" La Gazza Ladra," were finely played ; the latter was loudly
encored. Miss Whitnall's " Angels whisper," and Miss
Bassano's "Di tanti palpitti," were much applauded. Mr.
Crouch has a good bass voice, but not of much power. Mr.
Miller (from Bath) introduced "Native worth," from the
Creation. It went off but flatly. Mr. Miller's voice is
flexible—of good tone and compass. When the next con-
cert takes place we hope no " untoward event" will mar the
complete success of the undertaking.

SCRIPTURAL EDUCATION

FOR THE POOR
TRIUMPHANTLY ESTABLISHED..

The usual monthly meeting of the Town Council was held
on Wednesday, in the Town-hall, for the despatch of busi-
ness. Nearly all the members of the council were present.
The MAYOR took his seat exactly at eleven o'clock.

FINANCE

COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the Finance Committee, comprising
the appropriation of land for the Female Orphan Asylum,
the subscriptions to the public charities and other institu-
tions, as follow—Royal Institution, £100; Botanic Garden,
£100; North and South Dispensaries, £lO5 ' • Northern
Hospital, £lOO ; Refuge for the Destitute, £25 ; Ophthal-
mic Institution, £3o,—and the annual allowance to Mr. W.
Wainwright, of the Liverpool Office, of £lOO, were read.
It appeared by a report embodied in the proceedings, that
the net annual income of the Liverpool Corporation might
be estimated:at £140,797, and the expenditure at £125,317 ;
leaving a surplus of £15,480. They were of opinion that a
disposable surplus of £8,070 was sustainable; but, at the
same time, considering the variable character of the income
and expenditure, they thought that cautious reserve and
economy were essential to the just administration of the
corporate affairs.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE, in moving the confirmation of the
proceedings, stated that the committee bad taken into con-
sideration the memorial of the trustees of the Female Orphan
Society, and had, in compliance with what appeared to be the
wish of the council, offered a piece of land in Myrtle-street,
the value of which was considerably more than £l,OOO.
They had not yet received any reply from the trustees, and
they did not therefore ask the council to confirm the proceed-
ing, which would now stand over to that day month.
Mr. EVANS expressed his determination to oppose the
grant, unless it were understood that the advantages of the
Institution were to be extended to catholics as well as pro-
testants. He would put it to the Town-clerk whether it
were legal to apply the funds of the corporation thus ex-
clusively ?

The MAYOR said there was no restriction as to the religion
of the parties to be taken into the Institution.

IVIV6G. H. LAWRENCE proposed the following grants
seriatinMt To the Royal hictitation £100; Botanic Garden
£100; North and South Diapensaries £lO5 ; Northern
Hospital £100; Refuge for the► Destitute £25 ; Opthalnaic
Institutiorf.f.,3o.—Carried.

Some conversation took place commenced by Mr. PARKER
touching the propriety of making a grant of money to the
Eastern Dispensary, the South Toxteth Hospital, &c., and
eventually the proceedings were confirmed.
Mr. LLOYD gave notice that at the next meeting he should
move that a grant of fifty guineas be made to the Eastern
Dispensary ; and Mr. PLATT gave notice that he should
move a similar grant to the South Toxteth Hospital.

IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the Improvement Committee were
read and confirmed.

WATCH COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the Watch Committee, comprising the
the appointment of collectors of the lighting and fire police
rates, in the out townships, were read and confirmed.

MARKETS COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the Markets Committee were read,
embodying a recommendation that the salary of Mr. Luya,
the superintendent of St. James' market, should be raised
from £l5O to £l7O.

Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE proposed that the proceedings
should be adopted. In compliance with the standing orders,
the increase of Mr. Luya's salary was postponed for one
month. Mr. James Lawrence intimated that he should op-
pose the grant strenuously whenever it was brought forward.
Mr. Procter and Mr. Toulmin likewise intimated that they
would oppose the increase of the, salary. They saw no
reason for it.

EDUCATION COMMITTEE

The reports of the proceedings of the Education Com-
mittee were next read. They recommended that the schools
should commence and close with singing a hymn and with
prayer; that none but the authorised verison of the Bible
should be used in the schools, and that the same should be
used without restriction or limit ; that the church catechism
should be taught to all the children, with the exception of
those whose parents or guardians might conscientiously
object ; and that the children should attend at the schools on
Sunday mornings, and proceed from thence to church, &c.
The number of children in the schools was stated to be as
follows :

ESTABLISHED CHURCH

North School.
South ditto...

Total
PROTESTANT DISSENTERS.
North Sch00l
South ditto

Total .
ROMAN CATHOLICS

North School.
South ditto..

Total
The average attendance at the North School fur the last month
was— Boys 325
Girls
Infants

Total
And at the South School—
Boys
Girls 193
Infants. 155

Total 560
Mr. MOLYNEUX moved the confirmation of the report,
touching the future management of the schools, which, he
said, was a straightforward one, requiring no explanation on
his part in the outset.
Mr. HARBOR]) seconded the motion.
Mr. AIKIN said a petition or memorial had been put in his
hands, from the burgesses of Castle-street ward, which bore
upon this subject, and which he thought it would be exceed-
ingly valuable for the council to hear.
Mr. PnocTER apprehended that if Mr. Aikin read the me-
morial now it would be in direct violation of the standing
orders. It should have been read and decided upon before
the debate commenced.
Mr. /them contended that he was in order, and he asked
the council whether they would reject the memorial ?
Mr. JOHN SMITH said, that in the whole of his experience
memorials had been read as Mr. Aikin proposed to read this,
and he had been a member of the council longer than Mr.
Procter. _ _

Mr. AIKIN then proceeded to read the memorial, which
was of considerable length. It was to the effect that the me-
morialists thought that the council ought not to undertake
the duty of education at all, but that, if they did so, they
ought to conduct it on such principles as would render it ac-
cessible to all. They felt that the utility of the schools would be
impaired by the adoption of any plan which might tend to the
exclusion of the largest and poorest portion of the population.
This memorial was got up only yesterday on a rumour getting
abroad of the nature of the report likely to emanate from
the Education Committee. The petition had been written
upon the spur of the moment by a pen that did honour to the
writer; signatures only began to be obtained yesterday, and
they were confined to the burgesses of Castle-street ward.
A great number of the most respectable men of all sects and
denominations had signed it. Among them were Sir Joshua
Walmsley, Mr. Seager, Mr. Pitcher, and others, who had
been members of that council, and altogether about 50 gentle-
men had attached their names to it, but be had no hesitation
in saying that if more time had been allowed, and the town
had been appealed to, it would have been signed by as many
hundreds. The merit of the petition, however, must not be
measured by the number of signatures. The respectability
of the petitioners was unquestionable ; and the arguments
they used were overpowering, so much so that he would not
venture to weaken their effect upon the council by one word
of his own. He begged to move that the memorial be referred
to the Education Committee.
Mr. JoHN HOLMES seconded the motion.
Mr. HODGSON begged that the names of the memorialists
might be read over.
Mr. AIKIN read them accordingly. They were about fifty
in number.

Mr. Alderman TURNER said he rose with great reluctance
to offer a few observations on the present subject, because he
had the misfortune to differ in opinion with the friends with
whom he had generally the pleasure of acting. When he con-
sidered that he owed the seat which he had the honour to
hold in that council to the kindness and good opinion of those
friends, he felt himself delicately situated ; but when he re-
flected on the importance of the question, and the important
considerations which were likely to ensue from the discussion
of that day, he thought he would be unworthy of himself, and
unworthy of retaining his seat one moment longer if he had
not the moral courage to express a free and unbiassed opinion
upon the question, or refrain from giving an independent vote
on this question as his heart and conscience dictated. (Hear,
hear, from the liberals.) The education of the poor, in Lis
humble judgment, ought not to be made a party question ;
but he greatly feared that many of his own friends had made
it so. (Hear, hear, hear. and cries of no, no.)
Mr. Alderman EARLE—I say yes, yes ; you have made it
a party question.
Mr. Alderman TURNER resumed. All classes of the com-
munity, whatever their religion or their politics might be,
were equally interested in the welfare of their poorer
brethren ; and he would ask what was so likely to make the
destitute poor good citizens and loyal subjects, as to remove
them, at an early age, from the chance of passing into the
haunts of vice by training them up in the paths of virtue.
" Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is
old he will not depart from it," was a scriptural maxim, anti
it would prove the best advice. He believed it was admitted
on all hands that the corporation schools had been the means
of doing a great deal of good to the children of the poor in
their respective districts • and it was upon this consideration
that he strongly objected any measures being adopted that
might tend to debar Roman catholic children, of whom so
large a proportion (particularly at the North School) were
the recipients of it, as the council had heard, from the be-
nefits of the education provided by the corporation. He was
aware, that from the great change which had recently taken
place in the constitution of that council, it was natural to be
expected that some alterations would be made, and it was
therefore a source of pride and gratification to some to know
that an attempt would be made to restore the Bible and to re-
move the extracts, which they believed to he so obnoxious to
protestant principle. The conservatives had now the ascen-
dancy, and he rejoiced at it as much as any man could : but
at the same time let them use the triumph they had gained
with christian temper and moderation, and not act with
harshness or intolerance towards any class. With the gene-
ral tenor of the resolutions proposed by the Education Com-
mittee he cordially concurred, but, constituted as the schools
were he did not agree with them in making the reading of
the Bible the test of admission or rejection of the scholars.
He was willing that the protestant children should have their
religious services morning and evening, but he would not insist
on the catholic children learning a book to which their parents
or guardians mightobject from conscientious grounds. Ifthe
catholics desired to obtain secular instruction merely,he thought
they ought to have credit given to them for it ; and the coun-
cil ought to rejoice at the settlement of the question upon
such satisfactory terms ; for, after all, it was very question-
able whether the council were not committing an act of in-
justice upon them in depriving them altogether of religious
instruction. His friends, it was true, might tell him that
they should not be instrumental in teaching error in any way;
but he said that, according to the municipal reform bill, the
town council was not a political body ; they were trustees
of the corporate estate for the public good, and benefit of all
classes, and, as such, they had no right to deprive any sect,
upon account of their religion, of their fair share of the ad-
vantages derivable from the corporate income. (Hear, hear.)
This was his view of the case, and feeling, as he did, that it
was inconsistent with the spirit of the municipal reform bill
that they should restrict the means of doing good to one class
of the town, he had deemed it his duty to prepare an amend-
ment, which he trusted would meet-the exigencies of the case.
He was afraid that some of his friends would not approve of
the course he was taking ; but, in common justice to a large
portion of the community, he could not consent to act differ-
ently. lie was told to leave every thing to the discretion of
the committee, and that his amendment would look like a
want of confidence in them ; but he could not withdraw it on
that account, because it was exceedingly desirable that all
classes of children should partake of the education in the
corporation schools, without reference to sect. Mr. Turner,
who was heard very indistinctly at the reporters' table, con-
cluded by moving the following amendment :
" That the proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the
Education Committee be approved, with the following ex-
ceptions :—That at the end of the first article of the report,
namely, ' that the school shall commence in the morning and

Glom in the afternoon with singing a hymn and with prayer,'
there to be added—' but no child whose parents or guardians
shall signify their conscientious objections thereto shall be
obliged to attend those services.' That at the end of the
second article of the report, namely—' that none but the
authorised version of the Bible shall be used in the schools,
and that the same shall be used without restriction or limit,'
there be added—` except as to children whose parents or
guardians may conscientiously object thereto, which children
shall still have the benefit of the secular instruction other-
wise afforded by the schools.' And that corresponding
alterations be made by the committee in the second rule
(already quoted) and the fourth rule, namely—` that the
children of the upper schools shall be required to attend on
Sundays, in the morning at half-past nine, for religious in-
struction, and to proceed to church, and in the afternoon at
half-past two ;' and that the eleventh of the same rules, for
calling of the roll, be adapted thereto."
The MAYOR presumed that Mr. Turner was aware of ano-
ther amendment having been previously moved by Mr. Aikin,
to the effect that the memorial of the burgesses of Castle-
street ward be referred to the Education Committee.
Mr. Ancrsr said he had not intended to submit the refe-
rence of the memorial to the committee as an amendment.
He wished merely to read it and lay it before the council.
After some discussion on the subject, it was eventually
presumed by the council that the memorial had been pre-
sented before the Deputy Town-clerk proceeded to read the
report of the committee, and consequently that no amend-
ment had been submitted by Mr. Aikin.
Mr. Jour; SMITH said he rose with great pleasure to se-
cond the amendment made by Mr. Turner. In doing so, he
would avail himself of the opportunity to set himself right in
the eyes of the council and the public at large with respect to
the proposition he had thought proper to bring forward on
the school question on the second of last month. For the
course pursued by him on that occasion, when he suggested
the propriety of erecting separate schools, in order that in-
struction might be afforded to the Protestant and Catholic
children of the poor, he had been taunted not only with the
charge of inconsistency, but with a. desertion of principle
also. He most distinctly denied the truth of both those
charges, and he had incontestible evidence to prove that nei-
ther one nor the other was founded in fact. He held in his
hand a report of what had taken place in the council five
years before, when the subject of education in the schools
was matter of debate. On that occasion he had seconded a
resolution brought forward by Mr. Birch, precisely similar
to what he himself had proposed in the council a few weeks
before, and every conservative member of the council then
present actually voted in favour of it.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Read their names, if you please.
Mr. JOHN SMITH.—Yes, he would read the whole of
them. He would read what Mr. Birch said on the occasion ;
and then he might fearlessly say—in the name of common
justice, fairness, and reason, let, the charges of inconsistency
and departure from principle rest on the shoulders of those
best entitled to them. Having read the extract accordingly,
he proceeded to say, that the conservative members who had
voted for this proposition, which he (Mr. John Smith) se-
conded, were Mr. Birch, Mr. James Heywortb, Mr. Henry
Lawrence, and Mr. John Smith—
Mr. SANDS.—Those are not all conservatives.

Mr. JOHN SMITH.—How was it that that which was praise-
worthy in 1836 should be considered so obnoxious and repul-
sive in 1841 ? He left that question to be solved by those
who had changed their opinions upon the subject—(laughter)
—for it was quite out of his own power to furnish a solution
of the problem. With regard to the amendment proposed by
Mr. Turner it was so reasonable, lust and fair, that he hoped
it would meet with the undivided support of every member
of the council.

Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Mr. Mayor, I rise for the pur-
pose of supporting Mr. Turner's amendment, and I have
infinite pleasure in doing so. I do not know that I ever
heard sentiments fall from any gentleman that so entirely
met my approbation. I am proud to call Mr. Turner a
friend, for I have known him for years, and I was certain
when he entered this room he never would lend himself to
anything that had the slightest taint of dishonour or ungen-
tlemanlike conduct. All I have to say is, that Ido not care
if every man in this room were a conservative, provided he
comes into it with the principles of Mr. Turner, though I
regret to see him seated in the ranks he is. I should be glad
to see him on this side of the house. (Laughter.) Yes, you
may laugh, but he is much too good for your company.
(Continued laughter.) Now, gentlemen, to business. The
Education Committee have not pursued the inquiry with
regard to the system adopted in the schools, in that spirit of
a desire to make an amendment which the nature of the sub-
ject demanded, and which they promised to do. (No; no.)
From the constitution of the committee, I for one never ex-
pected any favourable result from their labours. What, in-
deed, could we expect from men who entered upon the sub-
ject that was before them, not with that humble diffidence
of the correctness of their own opinion, but with a presump-
tuous, overbearing, insulting confidence that they are right,
and that every other individual who presumes to differ with
them must be in the wrong (Hear, from the Radicals.)
When the gentlemen left this room the last time they en-
tered upon this discussion, I told them they bad committed
a great error in appointing those gentlemen upon this Educa-
tion Committee. They treated my observations very lightly.
(Loud laughter.) Yes, sir, let Mr. Hodgson wait until I
have finished my sentence, and then he will see and hear
what will not suit his purpose so well, perhaps. (Hear,
hear, hear.) I say they have deprived us of every chance
of bringing this matter to a conciliatory conclusion.
They made:light of what I then said, and they spurned the
idea of being influenced by men so inferior to themselves in
intellect. (Oh, oh !) I do not mean to say they asserted
that in so many words, but from the remarks they made, I
do mean to say it was impossible for any reasonable being to
come to any other conclusion. They treated their opponents
with scorn, and with infinite scorn too, but I think that was
a very good reason for not placing them upon the committee.
Never was so unjustifiable a resolution come to as that of re-
scinding the rules and regulations of the committee the last
time of meeting. Thanks to the gentlemen upon my left, and
to that council which introduced them into this room, no
proceedings that outrage decency, as these have done, can
ever pass over discussion when the gentlemen of the press
arc present. You have all heard of the severe castigation
that some members of this council have received a few Sun-
days ago from the pulpit. (Hear, hear, and cries of " No,
no.") Yes, it was so, lam not in error I know—l think not
at least. This castigation came from a haughty divine, and
a soi disant follower of the meek and lowly apostles. (Hear,
from the liberals.) I cannot say, I think, the gentleman
wrong—l do not wonder that the congregation expressed
their indignation at their pulpit being turned to such a use ;
but I do think that the gentleman who afterwards rushed
into the lion's mouth in the way he did had more courage
than prudence. (Loud laughter, and cries of " Question!")
I believe that a reconciliation has taken place between the
reverend agitator and his rebellious hearer, and that this has
been brought by an " ingenious device" too—(laughter.)
Mr. SHAND.—I rise, Mr. Mayor, to speak to order. I
think Mr. Alderman Earle is out of order is thus alluding to
parties not in this council.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—So, gentlemen ; reverend gentle-
men have thought fit to be abusive from the pulpit, and
when I come into my pulpit here, I am not to defend myself !
The MAYOR.—I hope that Mr. Earle will avoid all perso-
nalities.

Mr. Alderman EARLS.—Did Mr. Shand learn that in the
West Indies ? (Cries of question.) I wish gentlemen would
not put me so much out of the way. (Great laughter.) Very
well, go on if you please ; but I was saying, Mr. Mayor, this
reconciliation had been brought about by means of an " inge-
nious device," which was that of laying all the blame upon
the shoulders of the poor town-clerk. But this device, not
being founded on fact, became, as many others from the
same quarter, what I should call by no other appellation than,
in a word, a precious piece of humbug. (Hear, from the
liberals, and great laughter.) The case was to be bolstered
up by calling in the assistance of the reporter of the Mail:
but he did not choose to he dragged through the dirt, and he
had the manliness to protect his own honour whatever others
might do.

Mr. TouLmtN.=-1 object to this discussion, Mr. Mayor ;
what have we to do with the Mail?

Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Oh, I dare say you do object. I
will hear you, sir, if you will please to sit down. Every one
in his turn, sir. (Laughter.) No, Mr. Mayor, the recom-
mendation of the committee to rescind all former resolutions
of the Education Committee was not agreed to ; it was re-
sisted by this council because they were convinced of the im-
propriety and injustice of it. That was the only reason of it,
and Mr. Bushel may mention it if he pleases. (Hear, hear.)
Some who oppose this system have asserted that it teaches
error, and even idolatry ; but if those gentlemen who profess
to study the Bible so mach, only valued its doctrines more
they would, before making that assertion, have gone to the
schools and examined the children, to see whether they bad
any erroneous and idolatrous notions in their head ; but upou
the contrary, they are well educated, knowing all their duties
and for any good the Bible has done them they might as well
have had the wooden version issued from Mr. Holmes' press
in 1833, which Mr. Hogdson carried before his admiring
friends the worthy and immaculate—
Mr. HonGsox.—l deny it ; it is not true.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—I beg your pardon, sir, if I am
wrong. I thought you had embraced it; at least I was told
so.
Mr. HODGSON is an untruth, sir.

Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Then I beg your pardon, sir, if
I have stated that which is not correct. I hope you are sa-
tisfied ; at least I will do my very best to satisfy you, though
you are very hard to please. With the peculiar doctrines of
the catholic church, we have nothing to do; but if these
gentlemen will inquire into the education of the corporation
schools, they will find that the children are well versed in the
Scriptures as far as they go, and moreover that they have
learned every Christian duty. Surely it cannot be displeas-
ing to that Almighty Being, who is the author of peace and
lover of concord, that these children may travel upon the
path to heaven as far as they can without differing in opinion,
and that when they shall arrive at that point where they dif-
fer, they may part without quarrelling, and leave their points
of difference to each other? Can that be displeasing to God?
I think not. Very well ; here is the very effect which is
produced by the much-maligned system that we are talking
.idamit...__4l3.se, hear.) This system was first introduced into
Ireland, where there was very much religious discord pre-
vailing, in the hope that it might succeed in allaying it; and
notwithstanding all the hostility of hot-headed priests of all
denominations, it is making very rapid progress, and doing
immense good. That is a fact which cannot be denied. In
Ireland it was supported, cordially supported 1 should say,
by Lord Stanley (hear, hear) ; and why it should not be a
good system here in Liverpool, where we have a very large
class of poor population just as they have there, I cannot
myself comprehend. I must leave that to the ingenuity of
the noble lord to explain. Mr. Hodgson, I believe, has
stated that this system is one of idolatry—
Mr. HODGSON.—Where did I state it ?

Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Here in this room I believe, and
perhaps I can find what you said on paper. I think I recol-
lect you saying it myself, and I believe that there have been
others who can do the same. Will any any man presume to
say and think you would willingly accuse Lord Stanley of sup-
porting a system that promotes idolatry or any error what-
ever ? We can only come to this conclusion, that in Ireland
it has not had the same effect that it has in Liverpool. The
secular instruction of children is carried out. One gentle-
man, Mr. Parker, does not like them to learn an innocent
Scotch song, and another not to know the derivation of
words ; but if some gentlemen, who now and then favour us
with their opinions, would condescend to take a few lessons
from these children, we should not have our fine language
so barbarously murdered, and there would be less discord on
our ears, not only with regard to everything relative to gram-
mar, but also to pronunciation
Mr. COOPER.—Our object is something higher--
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—It is something higher, indeed—
but there it is. Then with regard to Mr. Hodgson, lam
sorry to name him, but I cannot help it, as he was an old
friend formerly, he wishes the children to learn something
useful, but he would prevent their attention being directed
to such events as the destruction of Herculaneum.. Does he
mean to say that the knowledge of such events as the destruc-
tion of Herculaneum and Pompeii are not remarkable events,
and that they do not deserve their attention ? Ido not think
there is anything more likely to keep them from the alehouse
in after life, than the instruction of their minds ; for if their
minds are instructed, they can resort to instructive and
amusing books to consume those hours which otherwise
would hang heavily upon their hands. (Hear.) But it is
well known that the children in these schools receive a very
superior education, and that it is superior to most other
schools for children in the borough. (Cries of " No.")
Mr. PARKER.—No, no, and they never have beeu.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—You are an excellent judge, Mr.
Parker._

The MAYOR, understanding that Mr. Alderman Earle had
used the word " insolent," called him to order.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—I did not use the word insolent,
sir ; I said that Mr. Parker was an excellent judge, and if
that be an improper term, I shall bow to the decision of the
mayor. It is sad to see men hostile to the system that has,