The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-05-31 00:00:00

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strongly, likely the county. Ide felt
of the Lords, he felt disposed to suggest other ammo.
ments. He could wish to see the county of York (if it
returned four menitiers to Parliament) divides
into two
parts, and would, if it seemed to meet the views
of the
House, submit to them a proposie • ' ion for giving tete
members to the West Riding, includine. the city
b of yell,
and the other two to the North Riding. If the Hoye
should approve of this arrangement, he should haw to
follow it up by proposing other amendments.
Mr. S. WORTLEY was relieved by what had Linn
from the Noble Lord and the Hon. Gentleman wee
saying what he should have otherwise felt it necnstry
to offer. The reasoning of the Hon. Gentleman I th •
Le osgat
quite conclusive. Though be was one of the Mather*
for the county of York he assured the House that ea
this occasion he spoke hut as a Member of Parliassor.
The Lords had placed the House of Commons, ss it ip.
peared to him, in a vety cruel situation, by sealing
down a Bill so amended at such a time. The Hoax „f
Commons after much discussion had passed a gill to
Disfranchise Grampound, and to transfer the Elertite
Franchise thus rendered vacant to the Borough of teed,.
The Lords fairly changed the Bill, and instead of girieg
what the {louse of Commons wanted, mingle,
two Burgesses, they said, " No, we will not give rs
two Burgesses, but we will give you two Knights of the
Shire." To him it appeared that that House was more
peculiarly the judge of the way in which it ought to he
L constituted. He did not mean to deny the right of the
Lords to interfere in such cases, but he thought they
ought not to do so but on mature consideration. The
change which had been made in the bill went to increase
the influence of the Peers in the House of Consume%
He thought much inconvenience would result to the
country from such a change, that the private business
would not he managed so well as at present, and that
the expsoises that would fall on the suitors for private
bills wools) he much greater than they had hitherto Leen.
'lle had conversed with Voil:shireinesi of all parties on
the subject, and found that all classes contemplated the
proposed change with fear and apprehension. Speak-
ing merely as a Memlier of Parliament, he in Isis eon-
science believed, that a greater misfortune could not fall
on the county of York than it would sustain if this bill
passed. He was decidedly against the division of the
county, but he could assure the Honourable Gentian*
that he was not mistaken in thinhing that it would
throw all the additional influence into the West Riding.
The county was divided between the manufacturing and
the landed interests, and it would be seen from the kis-
tory of the last fifty or sixty years that the returns
lad
been very fairly divided between the Ninth amid Wert
Ridings. lie thought it was not for that house to adopt
a hill which it did not approve, because such a meanie
would be better than nothing. Ile did not think the,
ought to agree to pass a bill which would satisfy nobi-
dy, and it would be inure satisfactory to the public, that
they should not do so, but that they should pass the DU-
franchising Bill, and leave it to be determined by as-
other Bill to what place the vacant franchise shoild be
transferred. The present Bill now thrown oat, nether
could be introduced fur the disfranchisement of One-
pound (to which measure their Lordships stood
pledg-
ed), which might pass in the present session. i
this so strongly, that it was los lutention to take the
sense of the House on the proposition that tboyabseld
mit agree to the Lords' Amendment.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY simnel, that
although he generally agreed with his Ressataltis
Friend who had just sat down, he could not do as ea
the present occasion. 'fhe Lords bad only encased
their just right in giving the Bill the shape whichthey
thought most expedient ; for although lie allowed that it
was the peculiar privilege of the House of Comment,
guard the purity of time representation, be contesisi
that to confine the greater question of a modificatioa
of that representation to any one branch of the legi-
slature, was a principle unknown to the constitution.
The Noble Marquess, after some further remarks, ex-
pressed his determination to support the ameodreeats
of the Lords, reserving to himself and to the Boast.
the right of making such alterations as might be deem-
ed adviseable at any future period.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, that though his object was
not fully attained by the Bill as it now stood, yet be
would support the proposed amendments, as they did
not interfere with the great principle of the Bill. It
appeared that there was great intricacy in acquiring a
knowledge of the science of lumbers in that House.
It was held that five persons were necessary to discharge
the duties of Barons of the Exeheqner in Scotlasd;
the number of Lords of the Admiralty, it was said,
must n . ily be six, and now the Honourable Mem-
ber for Yorkshire (Mr. Wortley) maintained that the
ember of Members necessary to attend to the interests
of Yorkehire must be neither more nor less than two.
—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. Smyth (of Cambridge), Mr. Wilberforce, and
Lord Milton supported the amendments.
Mr. R. MARTIN (of Galway) MO a few words is
opposition (as we understood) to the Bill.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, bat the floats
did not divide.
The Amendments were then read a first time. Os
the question that they be read a second time,
Mr. W. WYNNE made some observotions, which
were not distinctly heard in the Gallery; after shish
the Amendments were read a second time, and were

agreed to.
Lord MILTON then gave notice, that he would to-
morrow move for leave to bring in a Bill for term'
ing the manner of taking the Poll at Elections in the
County of York. The House would perhaps hereto
objection to have the Bill read a first time to-morrow,
and the second reading might be postponed to a wure
convenient period.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY moved tee
Order of the day for receiving the Report of the
Committee of Supply. On the question being pa—.
CONSTITUTIONAL ASSOCIATION.
Mr. BROCOHAM said, he felt it his duty to call
the attention of the llonse a second time to the Per
ceedings of an Association, calling itself •% Constite.
tional," established without are law, and acting golely
and entirely upon its own authority.—(llear, hear.)--
He had before expressed his surprise at the nature 041
proceedings of this Societe,
but that surprise waif mach
increased by what had since conic to his knowle(lge
with respect to its conduct. Ile held in his hand the
copy of a letter, a circular, which had been not 114
distributed among all the Members .4 the Arsorfatloo,
but which this Society. unknown to the ""`"1"
—not recognised by the I..er a the I.ll4—hal
to sent to whom ?—To the whole of the Nlaessfilia

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