The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-06-01 00:00:00

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Mr. PEA-:C2 said Nate n.aviiitt,ri %FA& nearly rte: lantliry int . the s'ate ~f the agrienltural distrees, is,
st !• t• .1. Some dislsy was n..cess try in order to rtialsie I porsu nee of ;be cote tektite
:lse on the preceding
ilir•-t. ilank tb hove a :loud quastity of notes by them at 1 night. Sumo twee. basis over, the following
•.te thee when they lean to issue them. There ws . were proposed —Mr. 11. Sumner, Kiehl Hon. Je1.12
eesse legal point to 1/f di'ci.led by the. 'pillion et' the : Faeter, Right Han. Le.age Canning. Welt 11".• Fre*
l'A'r Officer:
of the I men, la., refcrenee to the new : d..rie!: Robinson, Right Ham. Vestry Fitag raid, Riele
isms. b. which would ads., create sable delay. In thies• : An. Wm. l!steLisson, Pi(ht Hun. the Lord Ala} ~r,
mouths he tiveight the mitre IS.IIIA i.e rte. dr fur • Lord Milton, Sir John Newport, and Mr. Wester's.
d •livery. The nnession separatt•ly briast put for the admissions
After a few si cards from 31r. BA w4u. the refultnicits of the rimer Members on the Committee, it was annul-
w •1,. separatel: :.tat and carried. naustely agreed to.
Ihe House tbru r,:sinsfed.aed the !anon! was ordered The See tame then put t!te question tOr the &desk-
•ts Or brossi,ht up to-morrow. siun of Mr. I har!es Hondas, ups, i which
rbeCosnisiiticeul.!alued I are to sit again on Friday. Mr. DAttlxis row, an.i said, that h•rineil as the Com-
COCIIITS OF JUSIILE IN SC4ITLAND.-I.4sril matter was of Hon. Members whose tiros, for the
A. IlistaLetsx asked if the Noble Seeratary of State greater part, were avowedly tivuurable to the spire:lull
had any ohjectioss to produce the Comusiss:on asssi the at issue, there cuuld he no duale A., to the sort of !te-
ll.' tr'llimg`delt.'w between 'ln. C ontnissioeets for in- port OIL!' they would make. For himself, lie siseuld
quiii:tkii IWO Courts of .instire In Scotland and the Se- enter his protest against this I'llolllllittel., as 110 fair or
crrtary of State. 'These piles, lie 13111, were sought ineennial resnit could be expel-nes Irmo it. Ile felt as
for with a view to the elm:diatom of the grounds spun if he saw their Report already before else Muer, sad
w:sieb the Coruesiesiuoere Mere dissolved. the formation of the Cuneeit tee aas calculated to excite
Lord CAS 1 L said, that the Cun 111 l is.ion had j the greatest al.snn.
ranked at the delete, of ?ha late king. 'I he Commis- Sir .1. New rioter dee'ared his determination to go
Sit'lls bad likewise expired for the two other kingdoms. I into the Committee without any feeling of prejudice
Sir J. New roue arid, that the Commission for Ire- on either si.le; but while ready to great any reason-
land had out expired by the demise of the King, bet able relief to the agrieulturist, out to du so. at the
that it was in as the operation at this instant. same thee, :to the injury of the nentufactsin.r.
Cord Ca ers . • •is aaid.it wae soak's' Contosissinn. Mr. 11. So•IIN En vindicated the nianner Le had stied
'the sel•onsl nestling of the Biqa to Rinend the (ii. in selecting the Cummins.... Ile haul taken rare to
otinal Code was postponed to Friday. I provide hiesself with a fair majority —;-1 laugh.)-
1. !se Constaittitr on time ILlusnspoutid Bill was post. He saw nothing in this to provoke the leu?,rtiter.tal
looted to ThirsZay. Hon. Gentlemen. Did they ever know any Aleseinn•
'I tin: 110 IA 1. F.l3llLl'.—Mr. Tt t.nn ET expressed I who had the appointment of a Committee sele,ting the
his surprise that 110 message had as yet been sent down I majority astaiust himself? Ile believed it Was neither
reeievtine Ilse provision fur the several hranehrs of the I dune on the side of the House where his. himself stood
Royal Family. He by no 1111'311A wished to implicate, nor on the other.—{Laughter.)
a tlisenession tespecting the Queen, who, he took it our I Mr. W. SMITH, in the course of some stbservations,
ga-stileti, would soon arrive in the country. 1 deelarrtl, that thungh he haul voted tin the preceding
Lord Carretecsott thought that the natural time . night in favour of a Committee, still that he Hever
for introducing each a message, would be after tile: intruded to sanction any measure bey I an inquiry
Itajol Assent was given to the Civil List Bill. The, into the state of agricultural distress, which he thought
Keyal Personage from whom the message %venial pro- - due to so important and restart. able a bushy as the pe-
r.' 4, was not t-s know but that the provision for the' titioners.
teler breaches of the Royal Family was contained it 1 Mr. 11. Systems explained.
the Civil List Bill. l Mr. Cabs:mart objected to the general principle of
Mr. Tttaaav was surprised to hear such a statement t the ineasurewbich Chet: • tee cousieumiated, as well
from the Noble Lord, slue, it was expressly stated in as to the planner in which the CO 11111 l itter itself was
t;. • Bill that the other branches of the Riled Family formed. The distress whirls prevailed he brLeved to Le
acre included ie it. I greatly exaggerated.
Lord CAS MEN rAult said. he believed that the Prows Mr. BROVOSIAM suggested that it might be fur the
bad no constitutional Limn ledge of the decision of the t convenience of the Homo. if Hun. Members would con-
House. I tine themselves strictly to the question for the appoint-
S FATE OF 11.101 S.—Mr. WIII rIIREAO presented went of the Committee, without anticinating a discus-
a petition from Geor,te Inter. colonised in Lancaster :dun on a measure whirls it appeared was to be redo-
goal, wb•i stated the hardships he WA% obliged to un- troduced to-night. He route:pled that the Committee
dergo Imo the 11 treatment of the gassier. The Ma- was formed oil the fairest principle imaginable, as there
giatrates of quarter Sessions had, by their order, given was only a bare majority of the Members favourable to
a discretion to the gaoler to mahe the persons confined inquiry, and nine of them, as he understood, disposed
labour, and to wear a prison dress, and to punish them to sanction any specific measure, while a large number ii
at discretion, if they did nut comply with the reptile I were decidedly hostile to it.
Lions. It was against the exercise of this discretion Mr. 1111161. T (the Member fur Bristol) said that his 1
that the petitioner complained. I objection was so strong to the manner in which the
Lord STANLEY defended the character of the gaoler. Committee was constituted, that he should put it to
Mr. DEN NLT r strongly protested against the power the courtesy of the House to excuse hies from serving
given to the gaoler. on it should he he mussed. The formation of that
Dr. Li-seise roe made an anima*ed !perch, in which Committee had taught hies a lesson as a new Member'
be cuintuentiel pith much severity on the order of the which during his life he should never Sorget.
Lesucaster Magistrates. i Mr. BARiNG appealed to the Speaker to atute 141
Sir E. Kxeccenebb was proceeding to defend the point of order in the poweedin.e before the House.
. character of the gaoler of the county of Kent against The Siless' said, that the question being put fee,,
same reSections which had been thrown out by an admitting Mr. C. Hondas on the Committee, it wool
Hun. Member (Mr. Bennett), when an explanation competent to the House either to adopt or reject It,
from that Don. Gentleman made any further attempt in the same manner as any other. In this respect:,
at vindication toststercseary. Honourable Members usust be guided entirely by their,
Mr. B. WILSPAOAM said, the order had continued own judgment.
(or the last twenty years, a proof that it had not in e• I Mr. !taxers deprecated discussion on general to-
rated injuriously, as this was the first complaint that pies not connected with the question under consider-
bad been made of it. ation. There was no lion. Gentleman, in his opinion,
Lord blts.rom explained. whether C•ons knowledge or experience, better qualified
Mr. HA I nuns r made some observations, t, Lich were to serve upon such a Committee than Mr. Charles
not audible in the gallery. Dundas.
Mr. Sceanrr t bore testimony to the humanityof the Mr. SPOONER thought the formation of the Com-
gaoler of Lantaxter castle. The person in quecion tuittec objectionable, as it dish not include Members
had been found in Arms, and was convicted to the sa- who were connected with some great manufacturing
f..ifaetion of a .Istry. ' counties, such as Staffordshire and Warwickshire.
Mr. 11Lacanunx said a few words from the gallery, Mr. M A %WELL said, he had been named as a Member
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to the saute effect. Ile had had ample opportunities
of witnessing the conduct of the gentleman to whom
• the care of Lancaster castle was entrusted, and Le hail
a:traya observid it marked with the greatest humanity
towards the prisoneri.
Lord FULASTONE conteuded, that general testimony
iu favour of character availed nothing towards the re-
futation of a parti. ular charge. A man had been kept
two months in .confinement under a charge of high
treason, and obliged during that time to wear the
gaol dress, while he was then told that the charge ter-
minated in a misdemeanour, and removed, at the same
time, into an outer yard. Ilere he was kept confined,
Li defiance of all law, the Magistrates having refused
to lib..rate him uo good bail, which he procured. It
. would appear, front the conduct of the Lancaster Ma-
gistrates in committing persons fur high treason, that
they were to be ti.e sole arbiters of the laws of the
land, while they disclaimed all obedience to them
themselves. he petitioner, he insisted, had tern im-
properly committed, and treated with gross and inani-
- test injustice.
- '1 he Art on,rav-flomenat. hail not been in the house
when the petitiou was presented, therefore lie could
say nothing upon the question of its merits, hut he
must protest against the doctrine advanced by the l
,Noble Lord, that it was incompetent to Magistrateeto
commit persons under a charge of high treason. With
regard to the individual on whose part the petition
had been submitted to the House, he had only to oh-
serve, that the Learned Judge who tried him had very
great douhts whether le was guilty of high treason or
not. He needed scarcely remind the Noble Lord that
Lr. Burnes whose work was in the halals of every Jus-
tice of the Peace, laid it down that Magistrates hail
the power of eututnitting individuals charged with
high treason.
L rd lF O.I,IITONE, in explanation, contended, that
according to Dr. Hume, the highest offence of which
Magistrates could take cognizance was feiony.—Tiw
• petition was then laid on the tabie, and ordered to he
pit Mt.
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURAL PRTI-
TIONS.—Mt. SUNPIZI presented a list of several
Members, whom he selecteti to form a Committee of

of the Committee, but prevailed on the Hon. Menther
who had the appointment to excuse hint, not choosing
to serve upon it, as he entertained views on the ques-
tion, which, however unpopular they alight be, wooed
itolu..e hi.o to grant farther protection to the agri-
culturist. Under this impression, and he was not dis-
posed to alter the averages, he thought it right, while
actuated by a feeling of delicacy, to avoid bring put
into nomination.
1 he SPEAKER next put the question for adding Mr.
Bright's name to the Committee.
Mr. IL &Tamen said, he bad been induced to pro-
pose that Gentleman, of whom he had the honour of
knowing nothing more than that he was the Represen-
tative of Bristol, a great commercial town ; and as for
his chancier, he nuderetood him to be well qualifteel
to assist the labours of the Committee. It would, per-
haps, show the impartiality with which the m”mbers of
it .iereselecte.l, that the Holt. Gentleman now proposed
had voted against the motion last night.
Mr. llattair consented to serve, understanding now
that the interests of the commercial and manufactur-
ing bodies were nut to be lost sight of.
General Gascoves said, that the objection did not
lie against any one individual but against the Com-
mittee generally. 'I he p, eju.lices of the people ought
nut to be lightly tampered with. Men had religious
i.rejniliees, which could be easily excited.—(A laugh.)
—llon. Menthe's might laugh at a c..nnection type-
rantly so extravagant as that between agriculture and
religion, but they did so (rain a want of reading.—
(Loud Laughter.)—Ves, he maintained it was from a
want of rea ling ; for a distinguished philosopher
ob-
served, that no two causes were more likely to call
forth prejudices than contentions about food and
rell-
t;ion. The lion. and Gallant Member concluded
with moving, as an amendment. that the Co:nmittee
b; appointed by ballot instead of by nomination, but
the 'tition nut being seconded, could not, of course,
be entertained.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY then expressed his satisfaction
that the motion of the lion. and lialiaut General had
nut found a seconder, as little advantage could be de-
rived from a Committee brined in the manner pro-1
posed by it. It did not anear that the commercial

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