The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-07-30 00:00:00

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THE STATESMAN

tl e measure had been
proposed, not It single
been found willing to
thought that the reverse
should say non content to
g 6 meat to bring
measure nest missies.—
tnd peace preserved by
All events they must be ad-
What was wanted in !ro-
of Government, and the
Acts of 1809 and 1814,
levet.
explained.
objected to the snasner. is
' through Parliament, and
'tnd wished for fairer or
~e thought the present Bill
iagistracy of 'lreland; an insult
p, as there were many
discharged their duties
respectable of them is Berated.
*4* pass now, it must certainly

said the Bill offered a pre-
Constable was allowed 1001.
- wbicb he presided will in
N it was in a state of dis-

s agreed to. and the Bill was
amendments proposed by the

ILL.
Petition from some of
lost this Bill.—Ordorid

then moved the third
nsidered the priaciple +of the
- part of the Constitution
t for those who owed to
allegiance, not at times to
Ting with that temporary
given by the great Charter
,ch had been so much relied
,I, was intended for the bens-
laity, by encouraging trallic
It certainly could be so are-
far as regarded the question of
becauselt was intended to re-
The Bill itself was, be
ineiple, to national justice;
me was nothing bat an en-
prerogative. This was clearly
- cases in oar constitutional
ease which occurred in the
In the reign of that Sore-
epprehended on i charge of sedi-
behre the Privy Council. The
• offence been committed in
have beea amenable to the
being committed abroad,
virtue of her prerogative,
Angdotn. Indeed the present
did nothing more than assist
prerogative, by giving a suer
- • • Conseil instead of the
by proclamation. The
their Lordships cowl-
) p t state of Europe,
3 held from the Executive,
with it sloes 1794? It was
preventing this country from
• with Foreign Powers t bet
'it he asked for their Lord-
ill ; for he wished it be
grounds. Ile would ask
the revolutions which. bed

mow apparently in prom
did not mem to give as
ho was right or who was
been ladolged*W edema. or
o into despotism. 'lO either
Power should be given to
prevent Foreigners from
against the Governments of
matter whether those Govern-
- He might here remind
A place shortly after the
Ruler of France had made
the expulsion of the French
f this country refused the
principles of national hos-
time, Seek means to prevent
from plotting against the
t. He mentioned this, not
upon which Government
to show also the modem-
-1 been exercised. .1a fast,
disposition to abuse thew
aly 15 individuals had been
only four during the last
he submitted that the Bill
. measure, forming a part of
~.try. He was well aware that
discretionary power should be vigi-
- power itself ought not to
he most solid and well de-
however, that their Lordships
measure able to bear this
move the third reading of

dd. he should give every
I. It woold, he said, dis-
of foreign nations ; and in
be could not but express
time be should have oc-

bad loped this odious =ea-
legislation, would he allaned to die
had ' a called a Hill tending to
first adoption in the year
involved in war which was
nation. He heed their
but of the States of Hol-
aed to by King IVilliarn to
out of their country, They
pproved of his writings, and
tiken in politics, bat they
Ile their national hog's.
Ht (Lord Holtaad) de-
'hose of the power girrn
inure and treatment of
en instance of gross and
were seized in a man-
in a downr:ght robbery.—
) afterwards returned, but
of the injury. The exist-
former occssion, bees made
of this poiret, bat that
tier; sad noir the power
situation of Europe. in
should like to ask the No►
would enforce the pro*
, natives of theses in this
engaged in the dissendeatice of
-• deliver their.ountry front
Uovernmest? This wag'
argument to the teat, and the au
"".. some influence in the desk
,t, his own objections to the
permanent ; and not confined to
country. It was considerod
!Dent u a proof that our Ow'
with that system of depro

dation, which was now carrying on is every corner of
&trope.
Earl BATHURST denied that there hail been any
a se
verity In the treatment of bi. Lao eases. papers.hd
been returned to him, as soot, as they could be whit Iwo-
priety, The Noble Berl then proceeded to snpport the
Bill, which he contended was seceesary to enforce the
King's prerogative. The principle of it he contended t
was to In found in many of our treaties with foreign
countries. We had often called for the expulsion by
them of linglish traitors who had taken refuge among
them; but our demands had been Invariably refilled,
except. on the condition of oar admitting the principle
la reciprocity; and this, u be before observed, we bad
iltequently done by treaty.
' Lord OAHE begged to submit a clause to their Lord-
err which he bad offered on a former occasion. He
then moved the clause, which, from the noise which pre-
vailed at the moment, could not be heard below the bar.
lk was negatived without a division.
Lord HOLLAND bad two clauses which he wished
fist move. One went to enact that the name and descrip
dem of sa alien ordered to be removed should be laid
hears both Houses of Parliament within one month
aßer the said removal. if Parliamenr should be sitting,
and if sot, within one month after the meat meeting of
Parliament. The second went to provide that the
charge on which an alien was to be removal should be
made known to• him at least 24 hours before such re-
moval should take place. The Noble Lord took over
don to say that he had not routplained merely of the
Omar, of the papers of M. Las Cases, but of the cif-
amestances under which his effects were detained.—
though not authorsied by the Bill. gave au ar-
gument against it, as they proved that under ibis Bill ao
sustaining such a wrong, was left with a remedy.
The two clauses were then negatived without a di-
'Moe.
On the question that the Bill should pass the House
divided, whets the nowhere were—
Contents, 42 ; Non Contents, 6; Mayaritv, 16.
The Bill accordingly passed.—adjourned.

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MODE. He was convinced that if tl
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1 IMPERIAL PA RLI4I.IIILAT.
,reevered in such as it was then p
4 . respectable Magistrate would have
HOUSE OF LORDS.—Mozesae, Jct.:, 29. accept office in Ireland.
-- Lord ELLENBOROUGH thou
ROTA/. ASSENT. would have happened. He ghoul(
At a quarter to four o'clock, the Earl of SHAFTESBURY
this Bill, with the view of forcing
the Marquess of WINCHESTER. and the Loan CHANC.E.L
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Loa, appeared as his Majesty's Com in a better'
and more ostensive in
Justice must be administered, and
bronght the Royal Assent to the folios illiterlullirlislsers':—
magistrates if possible, but at all e
The Charge of Fueled Debt Bill, the Receivers o.- ministered and maintained. Win
neral Bill, the Silk linanties Hill. the !loyal Scotch Scotch land
was
one
general
avatem
of
ni
' Burehs Regulation Bill, the Annuities Meonale Bill,
the Thames lastage and Ballasts(' Bill, and the Surrey present Bill, together with the A.
presented no uniformity whatever
Road Bill. The Earl of LIMERICK expla
Mr. TIER:EST, from the Tax office. presented papers
The Earl of DARNLEY object
connected with the Redemption of the Land Tax to
which business was hurried *rot
1821.—Laid two the table, especially through that house, and
The East India Company Loan Bill, the Countervail-
ing Duties Bill, the New South Wales Duties Bill, portnnit.ies of discussion. He the
the late Queen's Servants Bill. the Irish Salt Doti Re- was an insult upon the Magistrate
4 l not less gross than nunecessary,
auction Bill, the Stage Coach Duties Bill, an Li Magistrates of that country who d
' Scotch National Monamest Bill, were read a third lima
as faithful u the most respectable
and passed. Even if this measure were to pus
IRISH CORONERS.
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.1 The Earl of LIMEIIICK presented a petitles from be re-considered next Session.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH said
f , Robt. Barry, Esq, one of the Coroners for the County
mium for disturbance. The Coast
of Tipperary, against that clause in the Irish Connive
a• year while the Barony over wb
Regulation Bill, which provides that in no case shall a
aste:eof. peace, and 1501. while i
process he awarded to Coroners, except when the She.
riff should boa party.—Read and laid on the table.
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Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from certain The motion was then agreee
I ' &used, after some verbal amends
Unitariau Dissenters, praying for some alteration in the
arl of Liverpool.
i $' ' Marriage ceremony. ALIEN BILL
. The Coact of King's Bench Betimes Bill west through
Lord HOLLAND presented a
. a Committee sod was reported.
0, NSW RILLS. the lobabitan:s of Ipswich again
l i Mr. Baoeons sad other; bronght up komtbe Com- to !le on the table.
mons the Canada Trade Bill and the Sow lion The Earl of LIVERPOOL tl
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Act Amendment Bill, which were read a first time. reading of the Bill. He consider
ti's Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from the Lord Bill as sound, and as forming a p
Mayor and Common Council of the City of London, of England. It was impossiblei
t against (it was understood) the Orphans Fund BiU.— this country only at emporary all
0, I Laid on the table. have conflicting duties Interferini
111/11 CONSTABLES.
allegiance. The protection give!
The Earl of LIVERPOOL having moved the third to Alien Merchants, and which hi
reading of the Irish Constables Bill, es. in opposition to the Bill, was
. e Lord HOLLAND admitted that the venom of the fit of the English community,
vesture had ceriaiely bees mach mitigated, from what with foreign merchants. It carts
iii it was when originally introduced into tbe other bones; Inept against the Bill, as fee as ft
tilt 1 bnt it was still so asoinalons, and contained seek contra. the King's prerogative; because
t'. ' i dictory principles, that at this time of the Session be strain the g I prerogative.
could neither explain it to tbeboase nor to himself. Hi contended, conformable in princi
1 t bad no hesitation in saying that the Magistracy of Imo end With resikect to. its. powers
land required much alteration. Many unfit persons had foreeneet of the Kings erengs
been made Magistrates, and the whole Magistracy of to be &dee" from many CORN
the country ought to be re-appointed. He objected to history; but especially ID I CAN
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the wording of a class. in the present Bill, whichwersed reign Of Queen Elizabeth. hnlen tcit
I to delegate toLord Lieutenant the power of repul- rugs a foreigner was
11 leg three Acts a Parliament, whilst the real Weaning lion, an etainineppredbefore
the the
of
was that be should he authorised if he thought fit, to re. Co' mud decdeclaredth at he
imove certaio individuals, and to appoint others in their England,. the accused would
it e'
1 places. Such an Act should certainly be revised barer' it lass of this country; i
was passed. With respect to what bad taken place la the Queen could only.in virt
Dublin. on the 12th ofJely, be had heard with @adagio- sad him oat of the kingdom
tied all sides of the house express the disgust excited by legislative provision did no
the continuance of a ceremony calculated only to lose t the exercise of the Prengstiv
l, iih the feelings of* whole people. But it had been said OMIT Power to the Privy C 4
that the Lord Lieutenant did not possess the power of more dilatory proceeding by
' , preventing its now, as long as a Noble relation of his sole question, therefore, for t
(the Duke of Bedford) bad been at the head of the Go. deratioo. was whether, io the I
' - , -------, *eland, be bad found the meanie, prevent- this power ought to be withhe
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'"g i"" 7 as- -a...510g of the state? He after it had been entrusted witl
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wished to ask whether the noble Kan 0pp0.:4..r0 d con- likely to be the means 4 Prey"
i sent to lay before Parliament the grounds on which she being embroiled in disputes witl
Crown Lawyers had come to the opinion that it was not it was sot on this account that
in the powaibf the Lord Lieutenant to prevent Orange shies' onetime" with the Bill
Frowstiest, and whether be would have any objections reseiderLdehisopelely on Begleisth g
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11, to adopt some
he sties to provide that till hel Lo
plate,,
ettlewerheel
same should not 12th of July next year. recently taken and
ei If such a power did not rea ly exist, let Parliameat oon- pelt on the Continent. ,He did
il• fur it on the Lord Lieutenant. The matter might appear opinion on the luestidn who
1 to some of little importance, but there was no omens. wrong; whether hbertyJeed bet
stance of real injury or oppression which bad ever bat, when" Monarchy had grows ii
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et reseed the public mind in Ireland so deeply, as this so- ease, it was equally just that& P
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.il anal insult. When the Noble Duke opposite (the Doke the Executive of tills country to J
of Wellington) comma/sled the Allied Armies in France, coming here and plotting agar
he would have had too much respect for the feelings of their own country; no matter
~. the people to allow his soldiers to celebrate publicly the meats ware free or arbitrary.
battle of Waterloo. The Irish felt precisely the same to- their Lordships of what took
wards the celebration of the battle of the Bovoe, and he peace of Amiens. The then As
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1 hoped that that cause of disturbance and of 'heart-barn. a demand of this ministry for the
lees would be effectually removed.
The Ear Lof LIVERPOOL had so di fficuby i o unsettle' . Prince.—The goverment of I
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demand from a regard to the pri
the Noble Lord that. under all the circumstances in Oltalltet bet it, at the same OM
1 •'1 which Ireland was placed, no man could reprobate the individuals in question fro'
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1 • •1 more than he did, the continuance of that ceremony.— *tieing Government of Prances
The Noble Lord, however, had been mistaken in think- only to illustrate the pnnciple a
t' • log that it had been altogether p ted by the Duke had meted under the Bill; bat 1
• of Bedford, during hie Government. Tlje fact was, that lion in which its powers had 1
j before his time the procession was a state procession, at. there, had never been say die,
11 tended by the Lord Lieutenant, the Lord Chancellor, powers. Since the peace only
. ) and all the other State Officers. What the Noble Doke affected by it; and of these, GI
bad done was to put it down as a state procession, but two years. Os the whole, he
i ; it was still carried OD by individuals and societies with• was a fair and Constitutional IDI
“46 , out any participation on the part of the Government.— the security of the coaster. I
..lt This example bad been followed by the Duke of Rich. those who asked for discretiovo
i • . • niond, who had succeeded the Dukeof Bedford, and from lastly watched, and that the po
Al(' . that day to the present the procession bad never been he granted but for ramose the
a State procession. He repeated that every thing had been geed. In the belief: homes'
done by the present Lord Lieutenant to persuade *di- would consider the present me
i violate!' not to have ,a procession, and that he would examination. he begged to net
'eti ; have succeeded, bad not some provocation hems given the Bill; . .
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~, which had frustrated his intention. The Noble Mar. The Earl of DARNLEY said,
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• guess had tried to ascertain how far he could put down possible opposition to the Bill.
ro pcessions by law, and bad certainly found that it grace the country in the eyes of
iwould he attended with great difficulty. The same entering his protest against it, I
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would hsppiteit they were to legislate upon the subject ; his hope, that this was the last
as the prohibiiiou could not be confined to Orange pro- cosies to do so.
visions alone, but must embrace other cases. Corinna. Lord HOLLAND said he bad
plc.:l.loes, however, had passed between the English: sure, this monster in legislation,
and Irish Governments, as to the means of preventing a natural death. It had been I
i , ' that poet-snots from taking place in future, in cense. secure peace; bat sioce its firs
1 • I querhe of which. he wished that nothing should be on. 1792. this country bad been ins
1., awaken by the house at present, as if the disposition in unparallelled in extoot and dun
1 • avoid mit,choef was real amongst the parties concerned, Lordships to recollect the condi
be hrper. 4 hat the object in view could be attained.— land, when the/ WOES applied
As to the !!411, it was true that it us. very different from send the great Mr. Bayle out
) its t rieit.e! oat.. when prierosed in the Commons, and answered, that they disapprovi
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be r, gree• •1 .t, as he tho.,glit th( .srigir 4 would have , e;zretted the part be had tak
Iwo mote effictive, but even now it provided a mat rill I ts,it+.e;• won'.l our could violaimprovement. Was it not founded on a right principle, l I.di,y, by leaning him away.
1 *at the applintinent of Constables, so important to the nird mat til:..re had been uu A
1, , pence ut Ireland bed hitherto been made in an ahusisfe by the promo law. Tee eel
fl • snaoher, and that a change in the stem was necessary? M. Las Case at St. Helena was
'a He slimmed that the mode practised in England would shameful abuse. His papers
have !tern more constitutional, but it would have been net which made the trainee:ion
. ' less applicable to the circumstances of Ireland, where it The papers, it was true, were a
was necessary to bring in the influence of the 0 o - this did not alter the nature of
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meet. The benefit of that mode had been proved by the ence of Napoleon had, on a fon
example of Scotland, which was in as great a state of a pretext for the continuance
distnrbance as Ireland until the heritable Jurisdiction pretext was to be urged no lonj
i c had even repealed, and the Magistracy had been carried was asked on account of the at
• es by Sheriffs Deputes, nominated by the Crown. Since this view of the subject, he sho
!bat lime. there was so country in the world were jun. hie Earl opposite, whether he w
Lice was esoreinipartially administered to the Poor end sions of the Bill against any na
. I $ the Bich. The present Bill left the appointment of con- country who might be engaged
•i I ; 4, -*table to Magistrates, bat the Government had thephwer of principles calculated to del
1 1- of rem rein them, if they were Improper persons, led of the tyranny of the Turkish De
, appointing others in their stead. He wished that power bring that part of the argument
i 4 had gone farther, but as far as it went it removed an swer would probably have 11041
' ' 1 l'' . . • abase, and he therefow thought the Bill entitled to their sion of their Lordships. But, I
Lort.!cdps• support. Bill were general and perfumer
general
. • • toe &dot GlAlffilttCtle was willing emcees! this any time, or Aar particular tout
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measure es a partial rennet', but could nollligres.i&ibe by the people of the Continent
panegyric passed ea the 191* as lotiodur,ed in the Com- vernmeat was connected with
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