The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-04-25 00:00:00

SHERIFF OF DUBLIN.

Sir F. BURDEi I' rose, from a desire to proceed with I
ri motion
e of
the pc
i theprreneetig n sing.dings.th
that would
i hoped,ariseotuhteroef
'fore. that the Learned Attorney-General for Ireland (HP
rhtnlceti), would furnish him Aitb s list of witnesses.—
.:111settwore others who would suggest, whether it was to
Aim.: or is the Nouse. He, however, had done•
his duty, in putting the matter into the proper train; and
'the pnewentinn of it ought to beileft to the ',oldie officers.
'They were the propet men, and the matter might to be
refitted. An order of the House stood, for proceeding
with this matt& to-morrow; but that might not be finite
fah' towards the Sheriff of Dublin. It might not be quite
fair tO call him in before he were furnished with the ne--
cessary information • and, therefore, he would purpose,
that the order should be enlarged, for the purpose of al-
lowing the Sheriff to prepare his &Race ;. sr, if that,
should be necessary, to permit him to go to Ireland. r
PLUNK ETT said, that when he rose in that lionie
'forth. purpose of d-fending himself, he was underlies
irkeispity of stating facts In which the Sheriff, qf Ueh 1n
'Wits itailieated. Under such circumstances It was nits-
'rai; at well as proper, in the Sheriff to andeaveng to clear
hlidesilf; Ito he did not see that sly delay was necessary,
991 the,part of the Sheriff. He hid come over to cover
*airy. maim coming over, he was of comae prepare.'
4ror thelesuit. Nall he was perfectly ready to furnitu
the names of all the witnesses at present in his posse*.
eien. Among these there was, one of the name of Noble,
who bad not the requisite affidavit. His affidavit did in-
deed purport to be in the case, and it had all the form-
ality-of stamps., but it wanted tile jersoar, it did not op-
'pear to hate been sworn before the proper Authority, and
therefore it was onavaillag. On a termer evening he
had understood that an honourable bientionan,.(Col.
Barry) had wished to ask a question of Jilin, which the
tarn of the dehafe had rendered unnecessary. That
•Heriourable Gentleman hail, however, told him, behind
,the chair, what the question was that tel had intended to
propose. The queapon was. whether he had any inten-
tion of moving for au inquiry in this matter: and his
I answer had been, that lie had none in the least. Ile
might pursue that or any other course, kit he did not
feel himself at liberty so say either that he world or that
he would ant.

Colonel RAaR said, he asked the qtteation witjt,fee
'lord to a further proceeding by ek-ofEeio information.
list se the' cettrer ha-I been aliered he did not need to*.
rest that. Now that they were to proceed' before the
Homo, he was anxious that their proceedings shoralel, in
as fir is possible. he analjgpus to thole in a Cours.of
Justice. lleiherefore r..eocuinended that the chervil,'
' should be put in a tangible shape. The list of
nerves wouli oat be sufficient information to the Wee
Sheriff.

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•••11e.,FLUNKETT•ohneeeed iiritise dud mooed fort e
.111"7.
' r. SCARLET? said the object of the 1,1114 us
•inesttlie genteel condett of the high' bear ; tt was low
•pedeible,lbereforei to give•anTspeclfic Charges: 'The me
naltlot the inquiry might lead. to them, or lt-rnight net.
biroPLUNKE IT begged to ask theHesoorable Mem-
'bee (we believe Col. Barry) who it was that bad instruct-
ed him to say the inditiduals composing the Grand Jury
'wetetlre same es 'those who had served 'on former mint-.
.sines? The statement was <torten in 'words, but mast
iecoereet in substance. The fact wee, that 'them were.
two Grand Jories ; one was returned fur purposes not
connected' With the Criseinnl haw, but engaged princi-*
pally In the disposal of public money. The other Brand
Jury was for the ;purpose of administering the 'Criminal
Caw.; and on ibis Grand Jury there was not an an ave•
rage of severallerms more than one and a half whit dead.
been op the previous Grand Juries.
Cal. BARltir rose, we presume, to order, when
Mr. PLUNKETT said, 'lte neasperfeetly atiare that bk,
mune was mot strictly regular ;dna hie object west*.
put the House in possession of an impoitant fact. There
were per us on their list, who answered regulaely
the order of their names, as if they were on a muster roll.
On farmer oreasione, it 'had often been necessary to Poe
persons foe nen-attendance.
Lent Milton slid loot see the remedy of enlarging the
time. The House snick proceed impart to-morrow.
'The Order was then read, and
After a few words-from Mr. IiROINIFBIif, the Order
of:the Day was diseTterged, and the further proceeding
in a Committee of the whole House filed tier 'Friday.
Orders were then issued to command the attendance
of a 'number of witnesses from Dublin.
;Pbe Caplet' of the Panels of the different Commissions
for the year via were 'ordered to be laid mn the Table,,
anti the Clerk of the Crown to attend the Hdnse.
Sir FitAjP.3B WILDE:VT presented a Petition from
1 Tithes of taneachsre, praying for Parliamentary
Ittform.—Ordered tn'be printed.
toed WHEN? (after aV few wovils from tthe CHAN-
CELLOR of the LXOIIEQUER) postponed until the
12th of May, his Motion in favour of the English Ca-
tholics.
Lord J. RUSSDLL presented a Petition from the.
Cowan, of ifuntinroton, in favour Eif Itfor tn.
Lord EliltlNG'f ON book that opportnuity of statist',
that a-similar Petition bad been • agreed to, without w
dissentient voice, at a most respectable and 'numerous
meeting of the County of Devon. The Petition bad not
yet readied his hands, as it was circulating in the Coatt•
ty for signa•ures.
The Petition was laid on the Table, and ordered to be
printrJ.

store Mime difeeetiti- r 'ter lit etilitiel eta tale ikiiTeltill •
slissenibldbew. litetatif4biltilnafbe *is notia this di-
le'''. miiitfote4o
tio itir aePteledisoisisisitsityosipalWag down
a notietiar ' ilisir It etaftelltetie he original Mate. mere-
;lomatisdhe wanted .to repair it. The suit objection
to Reform was; thathowevet: the Moose miight be con-
stituted, it hilly performed Ai duty ; end that it virtual-
ly, though not actually, raptelentrol the.ptesipler 11 an-
swer tertilit lie 'begged to observe, tifin lie hod examined
the ptiblichedlLAlta bf the tovi`evelklitiorities Mid Mined-
-401.10 thatHliaga it pod itsportesit queetione f .be had in
ken 45 of those whowere returned tot stisall.places.aed
an equal number of those who .were_ retainedfor large
Ones, and'heldund that of the latter is voted for 51inis
tere,eatd •30 •against 'tkehi; roil of the fernier, 33 for
them. end at grainst them. lie though; it .was im-
possible td get over this. circumstance, for it clearly
shewed that the smaller number of persons:went diarct-
ly igninet the Tesler.. 'He irnald now state &d or two
ietteaces of inbserviency ttilkiVireten, in opp?sltion t,,
A he:dictates of the rniiide offho' Megabyte Itsetisiefees.
14w mould mike the votes OW the 4;otholic staiiition its
the year 1812. The Catbolikgaimasvere Isriiight,for-
ward io Apriti in' that xest.. bi lap ar1t..49:. Pill
were opposed by Mr. Vereettil.hheii Trinsdagniatet, sand .
shat votes 'were Male Iliadied Oiralifit the Aillllm and •
Sao handsel . and fifteen for .them. - la oho newt
mos& alt i Primeval fell by theiusiAlof ko alt‘Bo44 14--.
Ailnileiitilleibe 'vies 'formed, about half of which...want a fa'
*oar.; and half against them, aloha. I'hey il'itiidikt;oiht
forward ably two months •sifterwards. by theltight Ran.
Gentleman apposite (11r:Plunkett)land the numbreremia
favour of the'Clahns, 225; Sp a lint them l - it. WIN it
poalblwfor all-those Members to have reeettestinittAkelons
ea tbe subject. In two month', eadiclent neweifidlOmmis a
chaige of opinions es was indicated by-these nitokiers 1—
Upenntadther °cession, lathe /ear 181 1. the Timm/stale to
0 assOltition, .that the Ciressisay 'hid. not 'under/Otis pity
chino: yet they were, at.that tinrehporsiimiag.ipiditterwto
receive increased salsifies expreselgon thystound that the
otrrreney bad &tonged. Andther cilijordiii tblte'forin eno-
sisteelase Iimp:KIWI, that when that 114411, allettale opi-
nion (rein thepenple, it-ens brow infortmlatthmtfalieork•
If this werdthefect.lt Would be discovered ifierviards by
the expteri*lseenst ithe people themselves. Oaths teat feet
was, that that Mouse had Viten been eompelhal to tetrad its
steps by the complaints originating in the betletiadgeatet
Of the people. This was proved by ion reduction bf the
htricd• milligry force atoned by 'the Meese :la tientl
at the desire of the Gevernment ; Ind which the peo-
ple afterwards .proved was not .necessary's: AM In a,
latti Instance of the reduction of the tae .addithailal•-•• .
Lords et the. Aarnisalty. Theee fasteners comfit 'to
show that the House of *Commons stas.not.bettift•pisie to
judge of public affairs disc the people theemereet; The
misuse which he should propose for theirristance'whlgh he
hadshewn, would be that which he had miggeeted lam year,
that one hundred Members should La sakes from the small's:
Voroughs, and added to the Counties. Re thonghtt ttoweS,tr.
that compensation should be •allowed tolfte ierdprieeurs of
those floronglis ;'and he would topper% say)empekil f r
such a measure, having that ter its object. ttatagani 31r.
Pitt's plan, and his own optnivn was, that • wilifilairWoold
'be whWy expended for Mich a puipoie. 114 last ohjOe i.;:i
he would notice, which was uried asainatirart:itmentary
Refer., was in the assumption that poblio opinion was a
tuflcient eounmpoiss to corruption. liletbOuttlat, however.
with a Noble Friend of hie. tint the Manse insteed of bei.!g
e representation of the people, and a check upoO the Crou
was • regesentation et Abe Crown, sod a (heck linen t!te
She people. Iletif Metres assamed were correct, was this
the boasted Constitution which was said to be the admira-
tion of earroanding nations I Wits It minor to At that
mitigate nett were counterpoised by en enlightened pco-
pi I' .Heted no doubt timtpabllc opinion operated to cot.-
real many resits; but the more it was • proved that
public opinion bed acquired importonee. the more did it
fellow that site pubic Institutions shon:d cnithent 'to
that. .opinicia.', In this view: of the question, fib tad
kit year brought forward a variety iff, lett* to 'he* the
increased idtelligeard of tiro peopfe; Mid be woe Mali ban-
Itge
swe red tbat.this proved, the eget Iletr,:o. of the rgaiiat.
He Could not assent to thieCbgtPhillia: ' He ad .the opi-
nion of a person who united iAidCm and vitt Ao a de-
gree which he bad never known before,'(ldeinehan Pro-
fessor Playfair.) who held that the public iitatitutions of
.i country sisualti conform to the state of infqinsetlisp of
its people ; and who was decidedly of oplitiott that rho
want of this conformity had done muck towards brlngin4
about the French Revelation. It was true the 'people
were enlighteaed ; but they wooed not be satisfied wit!'
the power of expressing their opinion ja Newspaper.,
and of Critleiiing a Government they could not contralti.
In fact, the question was not whether Reform should
'take place, bat whether it should take place. now. or to-
morrow.; whether it should proceed frown .the ciandisils of
'rite "tneh. Or he brought.about by public storms.. l:flie
stream cst politic Opinion Pas irresistible. aticl A • Hplitic
babinleshin to it would teittease the splendoar Ina tore
the security of the Got animist. ,The Noltle::lAwd.cPTV
andel tymoving a.ltesalitiou—t' That the preaentstate
of the Representation requires the most serioatikaeotion
of this House." .

Lord NORMANDY seconded the motion: *•lt
Sir E. If. East and Mr. R. Valid opposed t o
which was supported by Mr. Ward( ,t Sir Johs'iqe rt.
SirT. Lethbridge and Sa P. Illske. Tat flouts then t id.
ed—For the Motion, 169—Agratleat It. 2130—MaJtirt$j. A A.
_The other Orders of the Day werodisposeilstruaLfhe
House adjourned at half-past elerse. - . •••••'s

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By a hie of Royal Gazelle. yesterday receive* hbot
Jamaica, we learn that fattens have been veselite*Mina
La VeraCrne, which state that the 10,006 men Wfidillere
besieging that city, had declared for the tliartgrber,' n 1
had guarenteed the life of !tnrbide ;ill thaittp fv%O 14 ,
t
assemtl9.: He, however, was ifterwarslo. jet isv&i. 0 l'.
bed ollitae piWie parade.. The CONFiffs.. w Jlitid flirt .
witbpst:44 1, In order t.' re4atabliaAylhn •CnnA:ttino.t
which aXiited, iskosioua . to. the
.nsurpation. .#4ltia :14
Onzeifein4filtb rokroorir Contain a dispatch feveu:ll,l.
Near, dated Panto, 9th January. He had . just heord• of
the stems of Morales, nod wig to bis'lnatcb to Cooduct
the casiptaige itgalitat hien. '-i :'
Sailed, on Sunday ritornlnt:.fer Ifolyhead, to prciene4 We ..
London, respecting the delicate 'and weighty cbsegn;:ivadet
by the *matey-General Against tire Comnalsvon . Grao4.
,/,',.
Jury, ot2annary last, a depdtation„ efittsieting or Mir (40.-4'
Whiteford, Arthur PerSie, Jolept 11., •Aluiire, tinMuell
Warren, Stiteph Lamprey; J4ll,
_Twyernia, Aid CriVee
Tborp„Mirls.s!teriff, golsa.-ripnttincitin. Post t)
The Kee. Mr. Kenny rend -Ids miletinti. eecaetation. of
the errors of *the Church of Hoene, in ('writ, no •rienday
se'mvight.'
The cnietstated Oeographltr. A. Artdstaniiils; Wei.
whose taureiti' a clatiF-tratetbr of Mara nriof charts Is 31 Wed
known tot dinchoet,' Europe and Atobt)ii, died atlas
house, in SclOignire, cn Wednei.lay unirning; In (ti's
74th year., . • • .
Townsliend completed his task of fifty miles per day -,c
twelve hours, half badkwards, yesterday evening, at talc*.
minutes before eight.
Yesterday the Loki Mayor held a Wordenote in the IT A. •
of Gables 1116spltal, at three .o'cll-RE, for the election of att
Alden-rear of the Ward of flevehegvilli Within, in the room
of the late T. Smith, Esq., when John.Crowdei, lemplitte
Deputy of the Ward, was umbrimodaly elected. -`6:
To READERS of Weatt.X r.trNis.—lget4dtertistments
uhatever are inserted in the Itichtlinaiite. Sunder sew,-
paper. which is a :large folio Joerold or annntisnirtenns, of
the same size. as Tim Onsaujiae, It is regularly puplisited
every Sunday morning, at the earl' honedf fear o'clock: at
Neves. Smith's, 11,2,8trand, IlAwsion. Tim piles .of Thu
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