The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-07-18 00:00:00

DIVIDINDS.

Are. 7, R. Whiteside, H. Fisher. and T. Hattie. White-
haven. Cumberland, merchants, at eleven, at the House of
Mr. Thos. Jackson, Innkerper. Whltebaven Aug. 6, J.
Gray, ilishopigate-street-Wit tout. grocer, at twelve, at the
Court of Commissioners—Aog. 0, W. Mallorie, Leeds.
paste-board-reanufarturer, at ten, at the Court-house, Leeds
—Aug. lb, F. M. i.uhbren. Newcastle, iron-founder, at
eleven, at the George Inn, Neweactle-upon-Tyne-eAug. 6.
F. Mitchell, New Milton, Yorkshire. cora merchant, at
eleven, at the New Globe Inn, New Melton—July x 7, T.
Jacobs and W. tipieru, Oxford, linen drapers, at twelve. at
the Court of Commissioners, Loudon— kug. U. de Ugarte,

WSSane-street, Flasbury-square,inerchant.'M tWelve;st the
Court of Commissioners—Aug. 17, C. Hodges, Ringwood.
eo. Southampton, stationer, dealer, at twelve, at the Court
of Commissioners, London—Aeg. la. W. Parker, Newnrk-
upon-Trent. Nottinghamshire, wire-worker. at elm, en, at the'
douse of Mr. Joseph Glistrap. the lintel, Newark-upon-
Trenc —Aug. 10. G. 11. Edwards, Craven-str.et. St Marlin-
In-the-Pietas, whin merchant. at twelve, at the Court of
Commissioners—Aug. Si, T. Richardson, Iron Ades.'
Oloncestershirs. tanner, at one, at the Commercial llamas.
Bristol—Aug. 6, R. Cope, St. Martin, Worcester. victual-
ler, at twelve, at the SW and Matter lan, Worcester.

CERTIVICATIISAUG. 6.

J. Barnwell, Leamington Priory, Warwickshire. ear.
pester—J. Prates, Stanton, Y.rishi re. innkeeper— Gar-
nett, Liverpool. merchant—W. e. Keene, Ala ry-le-bune-,
hum. Bt. Mary-le-boue, farrier—J. Teunet, Liverpool, mer-
chant.

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wo would
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consent to give up a practice which: had long existed,
until it was shown thatsuch practice ought to be altered.
He would not 'support the Bill ; but as it had been
brought forward by wiser men than himself he could not
oppose it.
'be 1,011,D CHANCELLOR agreed with the Noble
Duke that no alteration ought to be made without neces-
sity in lung established usages, merely as principles
of theoretical improvement ; and he would not consent
to do away &practice which had long existed without
any complsiorkbgirti made against it.
Lord MEM/ LL said, if they were to judge from
the small dumber o criminals tried in Scotland, there
woald he no great reason to regret that the Criminal
Laws of that co were such as they now were. The
iilk
o up from time Immemorial, and
re iliar wi e 'Ants of the people. lire did net
sae any re son why the practice should be changed, and
dreOsfore lie should oppose the motion.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, that as it was not
intender to oppose the Bill itself, he should not press
his =olio°.
The Magoon of BUTE said he should concur with
the Noble Viscount, as to the impolicv of altering the
praetiges as they now existed ; but he siseeld support the
Bill. 1
Th. Blouse then went into the Committe' and
Lord Lauderdale's motion was negatived witboat a
di cilia.

Till DUTY Oil WWII Fllll3.
The Marquess of LANSDOWNE said, that in the ab-
sence of a Noble Friend gists (Lord Cawdor) he should
move the order of the day for resuming the ailjanrned
debate, en a motion made by his Noble Friend, fur an
addresis to the Crows, respecting the silver taken from
fines levied in Wake. His principal object, however, at
present, was to direct the attention of the judges to this
question, in order to ascertain whether those tines were
the property of the public or of the Crown. They
certainly should not be greater in Wales than in Eng-
land. •
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that the Attorney
General, whom he bad consulted•on this qaestion, was
of opipiap that they were the property of the public;
but Mignon opinion was,ahat they tyere a part of the
revenge of the Crews. In either case an address to the
Crown-would be irregular; and Vent thing was to be
dOne in the business, it must be by an Act of Parliament.
The Marquess of LANSDOIVNE then withdrew his
motion, which was withdrawn accordingly.

GRZEK UOSTACSS.
Earl GROSVENOR rose to niche the motion on this
interesting and important ,abject. The house had been
occupied during the present Session in inquiring ioto the
distressess of agricnltare in this country, into those of
nearlyethe whole pepalation of Ireland, and into the
state of that most disgraceful traffic, the Slave Trade,
which a its humorist hooonr Parliament had abolished,
and **pa Ragland was endeavouring to prevail over
other nations to abolish also. Ile trusted, therefore,
that their Lordships would not think it a/ worthy
their dignity to consider the State of unfortunate Coris.
Lion Skye; on whom cruelties had been committed,
which had excited the greatest horror throughout the
country. He shank' not enter into the causes of the war
between Turkey and Greece. All that it was necessary
to koow was, that such an horrible warfare existed ; and
all that it was important to ascertain was, whether by
adopting a different system his Majesty's Minister.
might not put an end to it. However this might be, no
sootier had it appeared that Russia was not going to
war, than that moment bad been chosen by the Turks tu.
massacre or lead into captivity the whole population of
Seio, and to murder the hostages from that island at
Constantinople. It was said that a pledge had been oh.
tallied from the Divan by the British Ambassador, that
these anticipated cruelties should not be committed, and
this ion haul not been contradicted. That pledge
however,if it had really been given.bail been setat nought,
and all the •pprelienulerl atrocities ha.l taken pl ICP. Hu-
did not mean to s,), that that shou'al be a cause of war ;
but it would jostify this country and all others in with.
drawing from any. connection with such detested and
detestable barbarians.' and drawing a cordon ounitaie,
tumid forkey. If, however, Ministers 'router t break
off all communication with Turkey, they ought at least
not to show it any favour. They professed that thcv
had not done so, but strong suspicions to the contrary
prevailed. let their Lordships look at that
frigate which was now arming in the river Townes. It,-
attrittteri the extraordinary conduct of his Majesty's
Ministuis to their apprehensions of the increasing
strengtli of Itnssin. On the contrary, if all natio:is
' united in making Greece an independent State, it wool
become a barrier against whicb the gigantic power of

■ moron. What
right bail this country to interfere with the conduct of
another Government towards its on 11 Slltjerts ? flow
far might not such a principle he carried het Eng-
land make the case its own. Let it be supposed that an
insurrection in this country had reralttred the einittny.
went of a military force necessary to put it down, and
that it hs.i been done under circeinstinces which an -
"eared highly cruel to foreign nations. whet would'
OE4 Lordships or the country far, if' the Ministers
Of France or of Spain interfered 11r-r-egeb betnreih
the Government of England and its own subjects -
should not enter into the nature of the contest '
be-
tween the Turks and the Greeks ; it was trne that most
horrible srenes had taken place, but the Noble Earl
would he mistaken if he believed they were all on one
side, and if he supposed that with respect to the trans-
actions at Scio, the first horrors had been committed by
the Turks. This, he would admit, was no palliation of
the conduct of the latter, and still less for the flagitious
act perpetrated at Constantinople. With respect to the
charge of partiality on the part of his Majesty's Govern-
ment, it was unjust and tinfounded : they had observed
the strictest neutrality. There was undoubtedly a reser I
Mere, but it was a Turkish frigate sent by the Parha of
Egypt anteeedent to the insurrection of the !Corea,
partly laden with merchandise, and partly with curiosi-
ties for the British Museum. She bad come in the cba•
ratter of a merchant vessel, and having brought those
articles to this country, had undergone the necessary re-
pairs. She had afterwards applied lo he armed, but erne.,
Pores, and all kinds of ammunition had been positively
refused. Such was the real state of the case on a Bich a
charge of partiality bad been grounded.
Lord HOLLANB said the Noble Earl bed mi•norler-
'Mood his Noble Friend's motion, which did not call for
beterference, but simply for a copy of a despatch from
dim Minister at Constantinople. A similar :notion had
been made respecting the transactions in Naples. %Viten
Ministers agreed to produre the despatches of Sir Wm.
A'Court, his Noble Friend did not propose to call any
one to account; be merely asked if our Minis:, rs had
given a guarantee for the safety of certain unfortunate
hostages; and his Noble Friend had a right to ask for
information on that point. There was no man in tins
country *ha did not feel interested in the contest now
-going on in Greece, anti if a suspicion existed that our
Government were favourable to the Turks. it was very
proper to call for such information ns should ,;thee con-
firm or rim are that suspicion. Indeed, the country was
indebted to his Noble Friend for brining forward this
motion, because it drew from the Noble Earl opposite
that very satisfactory explanation which he had gi.orn
empating the Turkish frigate. But besides this, the
.gOslitry Imbed to know what the real transaction was
M which the motion alluded In, because a report pre-
vailed that the guaranty of 0111.'31:nista had been gives
for the safety of the Greek hostages.
Lord LIVERPOOL.—•• No such guaranty ever was,
or ever cariN be given."
The motion was then put and negatived.
IRISH GRAND JURIES.

On the third reading of the Irish Grand Jury Pre-
sentment Bill,
• The Earl of DONOCGIIMORE objected to it, on the
grounds he hail already stated. He thought the house
was not sufficiently informed on the snl ject, and there-
fore he thought it ought to be postponed until the next
Session of Parliament. His Lordship then stated the
scale of allowance made to the different Officers in Ire-
land which were to be p oat of the cetrsty rates, and
which wroth' be wholly teedermate to their services.—
The grand juries were altoi,sether precluded from grant-
ing any thing beyond a certain stun. The Noble Earl
conelnded with moving that the Bill be read a third
time this day three months.
The Earl of IILESSINGTON defended the Bill.
The LORD CHANCELLOR obserscri that the Bill
went to dispose of the salaries of paten; offices, which
were vested rights, and to takeaway such etuolnmerts
without notice, and that this was contrary to all the
principles on which Parliament had ever before acted.
Ile had on a former day presented petitions against the
Bill; and if the contents of the petitions were true, the
Bill would cause an act of great hardship and injustice
to take place.
The Earl of LIMERICK Raid that one of the greatest
grievances tinder which Ireland laboured, was the grosi
and oppressive exattions of Grand Juries, actl the sr-
tern of disgraceful jobbing, which always took place is
rouserinence of the.power they possessed. As to clerks
of the Crown, many of them bad salaries amounting to
thousands each year, for they were in the habit of
staking shameful extortions from Bills of Indictment.
Therefore lie thought this Bill ought to be adopted.
The Carl of LIVERPOOL said he fully agreed to
the Principle of this Bill, yet did not see what necessity
there was for passing it now; and if it was put off for
three months, he now pledged himself to bring for-
ward this measure early in the next Session of Parlia-
inerit.—(flear.)
.'ifter a few observations from the Mareeese of LANS-
the Limn CJIANCELLOII, Lord REDF:RDALE, raid
Lr.ad iioLL.VNu, the motion was put and agreed to.