The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-06 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

present difficulties arose from a struggle for power,
that if the expression was meant in an invidious sense,
rather than as a representation of honourable men,
taking different views of the public Interests, and de-
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and unauthorised by facts. With respect to what had
fallen from an Honourable Baro►►et (Sir T. Turton),
he did not see how public men could be called to fill
public situations for which they, perhaps, did not
feel themselves qualified.
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A conversation then took place, on clearing the
Gallery for a division, between 'Mr. Tierney, Mr.
Wortley, and General Gascoigne, which terminated
by General Gascoigne pledging himself to move his
Address on Monday next, should no satisfactory
cotnmanication be previously made to the House.
The other Cheers of the Day were then read, and
the Committee on the Orders in Council deferred till
Monday next.—Adjourned.

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THE -STATES-MAN.

LONDON:
SATURDAY, JUNE 6, 1812.
THE, ADMINISTRATION.
We regret to find that there is still no prospect of
an arrangement taking place among the candidates
for the high offices of the State, which can lead to a
speedy termination of the present embarrassment in
public affairs. In the House of Lords, last night,
Earl MOIRA adverted to the recent statement of
Marquis WELLESLEY, as to the existence of " dread-
ful animosities" in some quarter, which had pre-
vented the Noble Marquis forming an efficient Mi-
nistry, and in name of the PRINCE REGENT declared,
that his Royal Highness, in the whole course of the
negotiation, had been actuated by the purest motives,
and as became the father of his country. He also
stated, that in the progress made in endeavouring to
form a Cabinet, the PRINCE had never suggested to
him any single individual, nor proposed to make any
selection whatever; that he never made any reservation
of a seat, nor suggested the exclusion of any indi-
vidual whatever; but that the fullest power had been
given to proceed in the formation of a Cabinet, for
the administration of the REGENT'S Government, and
benefit of the country. In answer to this extraordi-
nary statement, Lord GninsviLLE 'said, that what
his Noble Friend had said might appear to him to be
completely true ; yet it distinctly appeared to him
(Lord G.), from an official paper, that his Royal
Highness had signified his intentions who thipersons
were that were to be appointed to certain offices; that
four were individually named for situations in
the Cabinet ; and that this was the unequivo-
cal meaning of the words of the official document
to which he referred.—Earl MOIR t having
stated in reply, that there existed a considerable
degree of misapprehension on the subject, Earl
GREY stated, that it was impossible for him to un-
derstand or interpret the words used in any other
than the obvious meaning and understanding of these
words. The project eas first stated to him verbally
and then in writing; and in order to show that he
bad not proceeded under a rnisapprehension,the No-
ble Earl read a part of the Official communication,
from which it appeared that " his Royal Highness
had signified his pleasure that Lord WELLESLEY
should conduct the formation of the Government ;
that the Noble Marquis should be First Lord of
the Treasury ; that Lords MOIRA and ERSKINE
and Mr. CANNING were to be Members of
the Cabinet ; that it was probable a Cabinet,
formed on a large basis, should consist of twehc
or thirteen Members; that his Royal High-
-11(414 the PRINCE REGENT wished Lord GREY and
Lord Garevitax should, on the part of their
friends, recommend to his Royal Highness four Mem-
hers of the Cabinet, if it were to consist of twelve,
and five, if it were to consist of thirteen persons,
to be appointed by his Royal Highness to fill such
plates in his Council, and that he left the selection
of the names to Lord Gan and Lord Ger.:max.,
without exception of any personal exclusion what-
ever. That the Parwcz REGENT left to Lord WEL-

LESLEY the selection of the names of persons now
occupying situations in the Council, or of other per-
sons for the other sitoations." This, concluded
Earl GREY, was the proposition made to him and to
his Noble Friend ; he traded it would afford a suf-
ficient proof that certain stipulations were proposed;
and they should hold themselves as not justified, if
they hesitated to lay this statement before their
Lordships and the country. In this view of the bu-
siness Lord ERSKINE concurred with Earl Garr
and Lord GnErryiLLE, and distinctly stated, that he
understood the paper exactly in the same seine as
their Lordships had viewed it. The Marquis of
DOUGLAS likewise said, that it was hardly possible
to have understood it in any other sense. From
these contradictory statements, it is obvious that an-
other communication, explanatory of the real
wishes of the P - REGENT, distinct from the

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written one Li wsistion, must hays bees sae propesitian

to Earl MOIRA; for it cannot be supposed that his
Lordship could have understood that document in so
very different a manner from the other Noble Lords
who had read it. without, at the same time, believing
that he had the authority of the PRINCE for putting the
construction on it which he did. In managing the
common affairs of life, this sort of diplomacy would
be called duplicity. We would be inclined to say
that the views of an individual, with regard to the
mode of settling an, mercantile transaction, should
entirely correspond with what he had previously
committed_ to 'writing on the subject. At least, if he
had in the meanwhile seen cause to alter his written
opinion, that he should have communicated that fact
in writing, and not risked the danger of misconcep- I
tion, always attendant on verbal communings. But
as we have been told by high authority, that the con-
duct of Princes is not to be guided by the notions of
I propriety which aregenerally entertained by the vul-
gar, we do not wish it to be understood that his
Royal Highness, in the present instance, deviated in
the smallest degree from those sublime maxims which
influence the conduct of the great, and render their
motives of action inexplicable to our ordinary con-
ceptions. FArl Moin.t concluded his speech, op
this interesting occasion, by stating, that his hopes
of an amicable arrangement were net yet extinct,
because he knew the public spirit of the Noble
Lords and their anxiety for the interests of their
country. He hoped, therefore, that no sharp-
-1 ness of spirit, nor any thing tending to prevent
is friendly adjustment would be the result of this
discussion ; certainly it would bare no such effect
with him.—Thus far are we justified in bringing
down the history of this affair on an authority which
may be regarded as correct. There are not want-
, ing innumerable accounts of new overtures that are
said to have taken place between Earl MOIRA and
different leading Members of the contending parties.
II It is even said, that an answer was returned so late
' as ten o'clock last night by Lords Gaye and Gars-
' VILLE to a communication of the Noble Earl, which
icontained a posifire rrjedion of the terms he had
1 profered. These statements ought to be regarded
; as mere rumours ; for it is highly improbable that
any correspondence passed between the parties, after
i the discussion in the House of Lords last night, the
nature of which could lime transpired in time to be
published in the Morning Papers. The public must
exercise patience, for no expressions of chagrin
ior disappointment at the delay which has taken
place, will hasten the accomplishnient of an event
which has already been, and is likely still to be, re-
-1 Larded by so many untoward circumstances.

EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM NEW-YORK, DATED'
MAY 6, RI..:EIVED THIS MORNING AT LLOYD'S:-
" It appears to be the determination of the majo-
rity in Congress to go to war with Great Britain, and
preparations of every kind are making with activity
for thiS purpose; still many well-informed characters
in America doubt such an event taking place this
year, and their opinions are founded on the unpre-
pared state of this nation for war, and on the public
mind being opposed to it. Uncertainty attaches to,
all popular Governments; and this remark has been
pre-eminently confirmed by the proceedings of Con-
gress. Still we cannot help thinking that Congress
will, in the present case, carry their determination
into effect, without adverting to the serious conse-
quences which probably will attend it. Should war
be declared, the American frigates and sloops will
probably lose no time in cruising to intercept the
ships going to, or returning, from the West Indies,
and American privateers will swarm in the tropical
climates."

The letters brought by the Lisbon Mail were de-
livered yesterday ; but they furnish little or no in-
formation in addition to that which is to be found
in the extracts from the Lisbon Papers, except
that General DROUET came up after the affair of
General, Htwt., at Almeria, and after reconnoitring
the British force, retired without attempting any
thing.
A letter, received yesterday from Liverpools, says,
" Mr. FORSTER has written to the British Consuls
in America, informing them it was quite uncertain
how soon there might cease to be oceasioutor the per-
formance of their official duties."
The American Government has evinced great sor-
row for the misfortunes of the Spaniards at the Ca-
recces ; and has voted them a gift of 50,000 dollars,
besides affording them every facility with respea, to
supplies.
Yesterday a variety of letters were received from
Buenos Ayres, to the 15th of February, all agree-
ing in the unsettled state of things in that quarter,
and the little prospect there was of their mending. ,
Yesterday morning Lord MOIRA had a long audi-
ence of the Paula Rxccwr, at Carlton House. . I_ _

Yesterday the Cabinet Ministers had i meeting
at the Earl of LivEneoues house, which lasted two
hours.
General Gascormte gave notice yesterday, in the
Rouse of Commons, of a motion- for an Address to
the Panics REGENT, the avowed object of which is
to quicken the formation of a new Ministry.
ON THE DELAY IN SELECTING A MINISTRY.
The It.--T's call to them is dumb !
No► loaf, nor Ash, ran nick 'cm ! !
Nor can he take 'em as they corns! : I
Nor can he even pick 'cm ! ! ! l
A new society is forming, the sole object of which
is to promote Parliamentary Reform. A great num-
ber of names hare been already enrolled, and the
society will in is few dAys issue a declaration, con-
taining Its principles and defending its objects.
The newly-hi/A*ll,d Knights of the Bath hare,
wills the most laudable consideration for tbe suffer-
ings of the poor, determined to appropriate the sum ,
• usually spent upon such occasions in festivities, to i
pleb& charity. The first sugg.•stion of this humane
--asitit proceeded

from the Earl of NOILIZIOL.