The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-04-08 00:00:00

nu Address was peed to, ho should not eon•
el I. t... Howe as declaring soy opinion on the gene-
sal ;volley of sanding females to Now South Wales.
Mr. BATHURST could not agree in dm motion
of flee II able Gentleman, on ancient of the in.
convenience whkh would attend detaining so many

row/lets in this ceentry, In the present state of the
pi i• 4•1141 at home ; Inconveniences sod sills much
go ...tor than soy Which would arise from disposing
cf 11..1n in the orenrior prorldod by law; and that ten
at s sire when the whole coeutry were calling loudly
t. lw Ik I 1.11P4 from the bullion of supporting those
f+trille convicts, amounting to 190, who were of a
vas- sod -11 rrrrr er less likely to be refused by ins-
'', kW' MOM 81 home. Ile was ready to allow that
sore. •1 of the evils complained of had 'misted ; bet
*leo had been tattoo to pet an end to them In fetes.,
anti the crimple of one ship was not sufficient
grounds en -Lich to permit tho country from disbar.
hystios ni this numlior of poisons entitlewned by
liw, hos Ler good nr had, he was not now in argue.

'to he Le. Wired the :nantry. With respect to the Slate-
town' a who ',,• k were after the arriral of she con-
•:rts at N•n South W-.••s, it had been, to say the least
of it. hi4hts ; all were not sent to Portman& ;
• tinfoil..., .41hps• who haul any cheraver opereengaged
as .er rants by the settlers, and the incorrigilite alone
were tent to the factory at Patamatta, where they
mete employed for the Public till three o'clock in the
afternoon, miter which lime they were at liberty to
work for their own advantage. With respect to the
facts stated by the lion. Gentleman of females being
sent on board a King's ship so be prostituted, the
person who gave the information had mentioned no
ship. His Hon. Friend (Mr. Wilberforce) hell said,
send no more convicts to Botany Bry whilst the
Committee is sitting. As well might it be said. pe-
ttish no one whilst the Committee on Criminal law
is sitting. It might Dice in say, that none bet the
worst were rent out of the kingdom. With respect
to the return of caution, it bad been stated, that a
man in four or five years might, if he pleased, make
provision for paying his patters home. {clue these
tes4nns he opposed the motion.
Mr. PARNELL said, that of 150 women es-
Piosed in the manufactory, bone bad the nuns of
subsistence except by prostitution.
Mr. BATHURST observed, that from three
d'..ock the women bad the day to themeless, sad
also • holiday in the week.
Mr. BUKToN stated, that it appeared from the
4vidence that nine out of ten of the females were
obliged to support themselves by prottitur
Mr. GOULBURN thought the dismission of the
ett! j,ett at present could be productive of no advan-
tag-
Sir T. B. MARTIN said, that the prostitutes in
Tei. South Wales were not half so bad ss those at
hem.e. Should the business be gone into at peewit,
it .rnslit probably be protracted to the end of the
S•r.ssuo, and then the ship would be enable to toil
before the equinox, which had formerly been made a
matter of nompinint against the Government. Ile
dui j•••tice to she fe?tings of the lion. Gentleman op-
posite, though he thought they were stretched Is en
extranzdinary !itch; in order to satisfy which it
would be necessary to mike an Act of Patliameut to
alter human nature.
Mr. %IA ARY AT .051,1 almost have been led In
doubt, frt•no the language of Gentlemen opposite, if
there were any Etecotite Government at all. If
Ministers were so little qualified to devise proper re.
gelation., a motion should be made for their removal
from office, or they shoetd be Waned its a state
of
o'te)ance till the Committee hid made their report.
lie certainty th ‘oght, that after what bad taken place
In that 11.,a.e, Minister/ might be trusted, as to
whether It was proper to send out the ship.
Mr. BENNETT in reply observed, that in 1817.
o ship had been sent not ender the same regulations
as the present, in skids the prostitution of the
female convicts had been general. The whole de-
pended on the character of the indiehloal who bad
the charge of the yestel, and there was no
proof that the system bed undergone a changr
.A witness before the Committee, being asked if
(emotes bad any means of procuring money, ex-
cept by prostitution, answered, be thought they
had not ; and being asked, if the women had the
mime miens of returning home as its men, answered
In the negative. There were numerous cases of fe-
males having families in this toiletry, to whom they
were extremely ansioes to return, end yet had not
the means, after the fell period of their sentence
had expired. There was no need of any law to alter
human nature, but only In abrogate them laws thet
tended to degrade it.—(Near, key ! first
ship sailed fur New South Wales ha 1787, and the
Slot colony was sent out without !mowing whither
they were to go. From th ./ lime down to the pre-
sent Bs/wands had periabed by diseases of every
Iliad. Many bid died on the postage, and massy
after. they bed reached the place of their destination.
That was folly proved by the statements made by
Governor Collins.—The million was then negatived
writhing a division.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Mr. TEN NYSON stated, that he bads question of
Privilege to bring before the Howe. Ha bad been
desired to present a Petition from several inhabitants
of Osferd, complaining of the conduct of the Doke
of Marlhornogh. A Petition had byes formerly pre-
sented in the House on the same subject; though as
that Petition did not cell in question the validity of the
return of the Sitting Members, it bad not been enter-
tained by Ibe Howe. The present Petition stated,
that the Bake of Marlborough bad elpentled large
sums, in order to secure the return of one of the
rlidatee. Ile (Mr. Tennyson) bad two other Petitions
on tl a muse subject, one of which was &Igo's, by
the Mayor of Oxford, calling for the interposition of
the House; and nothing was Rarely more proper for
the House to interpose in, than the interference of
• Peer, in she election of Members to tit in that
House. The Petitioner• pledged themselves to prove
Ilse allegations in the Petition. In that pled;;e, he
did not participate, nor in the consequent resprieti.
bility. lie would be much better pleased, should
the statements made against the Doke, *hose name
was congested with associations deer to every Etta-
'Bhutan, turn net to be 111,011114H111. But ifithey were
Inc.o the House was bound to assert their privileges,
en which th. liberty of the country mainly depended.
Mr. BATHURST said, that the present Petition
was cemented with s former trtosittion that bad