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right. He would not then go Into the Milan Commie-
Aims ; the members of it led& he " all hotionroble
Alen." He thonld is triad to say that like King
John or King Richard thiy had'whierreditheir wishes
(if they-had any) to their agents; but he do dosibt
Otattlsere had been perjury among the witnesses, aptly
would not have existed without the hope of reward;
how that hope had been unnamed. tend knew. The late
measare against the Queen were au additional reason for
P4rliatuentary Reform. Would any one pretend that a
ininister would have dared to contemplate bringing a
1,31 if the nature of that against the. Queen. to a House
of Commons really speaking thesentiments of the peo-
ple ? Ile has nut gone into the law of the question; he
conaidereil that the point had been set at rest; bat he /
had stated his' opinion of the treatment of the *oleo ;
he thought she had marred the greatest injustice, and
he felt himself bound to give every support to the motion
of the lion. m-uiber..
Mr. W I LMI.O.I' expressed his assurance that the motion
[tai introdnceil' by the Honorable Mover in the time
spirit of peace and rumination ; and he was also sure,
that the Honourable Member fbeßramlsere• in support-
ing*, had acted upon his• real feelings. Butt when; he
thought that House should surrender its judgement to
the present effervescence of the country, he, in his opinion
(Air. Wilmot), went to establish a principle most fatal
to the deliberatinhie Parlietnent. He would oppose to
cieb doctrine the opinion tot 8 tnanovlorwas.equally
oith the Honourable MeMber forikaiither the or!tariont
of the contlitty, he meant Mr. 'Burke; an stpknion
firs ads nut when that great man was whet was-called.
an *Wittig. or Intimidated politician. but delivered by
him at the pitied df the American war. Mr. Berke then
told hie constituepts, the Electors of Bristol, that be was
1-swinti to Consider, not what their opinions were
Oleo, but what :their and his own opinions would
be in a period of • more calm deliberatiou ; that
they had eleeted him their representative fur his
attention to their permanent interests. and not fur
his versatility ;• that they had not placed him in
that high trust as a weather cock placed on the top of
an edifice, to be blown about by.every, fashionable. gale.
The people et the country were now also not alone
under thirinfluence of national prejudices, but were led
astray by a systematised misrepresentation. It was not
fur that House, he donned, to address his Majesty to
grant that to the Queen as a matter of right, which was
in fact, to he regarded as an act of special grace and
favour.—(here there was a pretty general cry of que-
lion, question!)--The lion. Member emphatically de-
clared, that be was not. to be pot down by shunts of
amour from any party, especially when engaged in
steling thegremois upon which hr Celt it his duty to ne-
Lative 3 prepolllloll of this nature.
Atv. L11E8,14 BICE explained.
Mr. MAItItYATT aahl. that he conld not allow his
et,tinori upon this question to be influenced by the ob-
wrvatious of those who argued that its ohject was to
ponluee the removal of his Majesty's Ministers ; nor
amild he agree with those who would decline to do that
which-was right, lest a particular consequence should
follow. Ile was particularly adverse to the omission of
Vie Queen's name hi the Liturgy, because there was no
precept of onr religion more rational and impressive
than this, that a guilty person ought to be prayed for—
thwrefore, those who assumed the Queen to be guilty,
ought to 11e among the first to support the present pro-
position. The mixture of religion with politics, for the
purpose of propagating prejudices through the pulpit,
was a,proceeding which conld not be too strongly de-
'riveted ; and upon that ground the omission of the
Queen's name in the Liturgy, involving as it did a de-
parture front general usage, was a most ill-advised and
tafair measure. Such was notoriously the general feel-
ing of the country, whit could not misunderstand the
motive of this extraordinary omission ; and it was to be
recollected. that although the people might sometimes
}kink wrongly they always felt rightly. Hut it could
rat hr 4101111irtif that the restoration of her Majesty's
rime to the Liturgy, would be a very popular measure ;
actl lie was sorry to see that this .restoration was op-
posed, rather upon the ground of pride than of justice,
the part of those who supported his Majesty's Mi-
r•ster%; for it was argued by those gentlemen that the
adinition of this motion would operate to remove Mi-
oist;ws from office. But he could not agree that the
Creuenstance of leaving Ministers in a minority would
.ferve to produce their dismissal ; for it could not be
Coluttee, that although drone Ministers were ip a Hai-
riwity npun the subject of the Property Tax, as well as
vanti other occasions, they still retained their offices.
•ite, however, could not feel Itiinself justified in allowing
t'-e epprehension of any remote contingency to with-
-7AIII hint from the performance of his duty in voting
t ir the motion before the !loose.
Loot MILTON vindicated the opinions of Mr. Burke
et:ainst the inference which the llonottrable Member
for \ewe:title-thought proper to draw front those opi-
nions. The qntitation.4 of the lio ttttt wattle Alember were
170/31 the -speeches of lr. Burke upon the Aittericau
rar, %woo the commercial propositions to Ireland, and
n Jon the tyltolic question ; but the lio tttttt table Alein-
het was quite mistaken in his constructioo of those
eaotations. It would, however, lie well if the lion.
• isiember, and those who acted with hint, would recollect
t:.e income:Me expression of Mr. Burke as to an ad-
.e.roxsing, Home of Commons and a petitioning people—
for such was the present condition of the country, lint
ti. 01 till against the evils of that •con•lition lie would
hvuke the Molise to said its petition to the petitions of
•al the rest of the tuition; foe restoring her Alajesty's
name to the !Ante, find Nws contributing to tranquil-
-1: /.c the public initial.
Sir T. ACLANI) declared that he should 'leeeky 's'.
cur with the reenuitnendation of the Noble Lord, if he
cnhil persuade himself to believe that the Petitions of
taut' people o which lie tefereed" ecmveyod the serial
sense awl enlightened understanding of the rountry.
.:•tt his impression was quite of a disferent charaotri,
• : • in,/ convinced that the majority of those Petitions pro-
• ,•cded front persons who were, not the most able to form
rofreet
,udginent, of 'wind *vision upon the question
which tier motion reforeeit. Tirr,,e Petitions indeed,
vaeee.l•4, for the most part, from that discontented and
feverish stets of the public mind whirls had prevailed
lor the be year, and whirls, considering the distress of
the country, hr would b.-among tier last to complain
• of; but he ',mid not allow inch Petitions to decide his
4.aidg.t...ist either is to the actual opinion of the en-
teatime:l putt of the people, or as to the question
'fore eke noels-, ' which he thooght the most
itelsarant that had been twilight torwaril within
111,. present Session. The llou.e would, he had no
eolith?, pronounce a fair, unblessed decision; and
• iliaterer that decision might be, he was persuaded that
it would set an example which would hare great weight ;.
which would, indeed, be universally followed theougli.
mit the roan:Ty. According to the notion, the House
is us tiiiegi upon to determine as to the construction of
as Act of Parliament, with which, in fail view, it wciula
not become the House to interfere. Hut, independently
'it' this consideration, lee would appeal to the House,.
• whether, after all that had transpired within the. last
year. without alluding to particulate, it would be con-,
ststent on its part to come to a vow that her Majesty
I"allititilirli to all the homage, ileferenee and ilietinction.
that were due to the Queen Consort of EngLin4.--(Hear,„
heir! froin the Treasury Beach.}.—Without enterilig
into the arra:sent of the Learned Member for Oxford..
with whim he could not presume to eontend;
wpm' a legal quastiont :he. numalsk.ask . hew IliAk
relied. that the emission of" her Majesty's name'
In the Liturgy, which that Learned leman . al-
leged to be illegal, eltmild have been so long overlooked

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by thew who were pentliarly bound to osaintaio her
Majesty's legal . rights : From the outset, Weld, of
that omission, Pie legal vinestion bad never been (*bll
grappled with, sot even in the curse of the pritteat de-,
bate. The motion, Wilted, which gave rise to the de-'
bate had not been so.worded as to embrace the Propsfolu
Lion maintained by. the Learned Menthe!. of Oaforall
that the original omission of her Majesty's Paint, in the
Liturgy was an *lust, illegal, and arbitrary act. WWI
respect to the of boon of threw litntlernen whom be moot
highly respected, and who rested their support of the
motion.upon a religious basis, be addressed himself II
that opinion with great delicacy anti diffidence. Bat he
must dissent from any ilea of expediency that *is op-
posed to absolute propriety, and therefore he could not
subscribe to the opinion that the Queen's name should,
as matter of right, be inserted in the Liturgy, what-
ever *night be the degree of her licentiousness or 'TIM•
nality.—(Hear, hear, hear '. from Lord Castlereagh.)—
This was a propiwition toe broad for him to enthrere,,
and after her Majesty*. conduct had been inquired into
awl determined upon by a tribunal ,in every viewfrom
so
well qualified to administer austire--Oiear, bear,
•tite Opposition Renclies.)— e would maintain that the
tugy was cendurted on both sides of that tribunal
lidilf.the most honest impartiality, and he could not be-
-I,eftate to believe that•the majority. from their vowss well
tes, con-
iselved that the main rhargu araiust the Queen
founded. With this intression then upon his mint, be
was at a loss to conceive any fair eround spoil which
*at House mild call upon the Crown to hold np sire+
• person as the head of the female society of England.
Hear, hear, from Lord Cakieretigh, am} others on
Ilse Treasury Bench.)-I'llere W another piss to
ndbich lie thought proper to advert, and that *is the
allegation of his llonu:;rable Friend, the Metsher few
Dumber, that the feeling of the country erasad-
verse to the original omission of the Queen's. name
in the Liturgy ; with that feeling it was however, eery
consistent to conceive as be did himself, and yet to differ
from the proposition to have that name inserted, after
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the charges existing at the time the omission took place
had been so lamentably contirnied.—(lLear, hear, hear
It pon the Treasury Bench.)—Ile differed with his Hun,
, timid, the member for Wernher, that to adopt the pre:
.
sent motion would serve to settle the luvoinis with re
sport to the Qaren ; for upon what groom% conld it he
supposed that the Queen was aiding to aid the 'outsell
tranquillising the country with regard to her claims, or
that if the present nintion were conceded, a further
claim would not he preferred for the grant of a palace.
and for the establislonent of a separate Court, nay. that
in the event of a Coronation, her Majesty worth! not de-
mand to take her share in that solemn ceremonial.—
(Hear, hear, on the Treasury Bench.)—Was there any
thing in the conduct of her
,Majesty since she left St.
Omens, that was calculated to enenitrage or to eerie. the
hope that she was inclined to promote public ttarmnil-
lity : For his own part, he had no hesitation in ex-
pressing his conviction, that the best ntosle of settling a
question which had so long agitated the country, was
by resisting the present motion, fur to coneede, stonld
only serve to ;mince further and more unreasonable de-
mands.—(Hear, hear, front the Treasury Bench.) '
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said that he did not knew
how those who censured the erasure of her Alaje:ity's
name from the Liturgy in the first instance as uowise
and inexpedient could vote against the present motion
for re-inserting it. They said, it was true, that cinrum
stances had changed since the time of the fleet ermarire I
but if they had changed he maintained that they' had
changed in favour of her Majesty ; for upon every prin•
cipte of British justice, the abandonment of the Bill in-
troduced into the other Bootie of Parliament against
her, w q
as euivlent to an acqiiittal.—(llear.)—The hon.
bart. thed proeam-ilea to express his entworrenee with
certain sentiments which had bitten from the kin. mem•
her for Its-amber ; hot the roofusion in the hoole ren-
dered it impossible far ns to collect what those senti-
ments were which had obtained his approbation. * •
Mr. DAVENPORT was of opinion, th it the leaving
the Queen's nante out of the Liturgy in the' first lit-
stance was an ill advised meastire ; but he conlil not ,
consent to the restoration of it to the service of the
church, owing to the nature of the answers which she
had returned to the various addresses which had been
presented to her.—(4.jtiestian, question.)
The lion. Mr. LAMB argued against the opinion,
that the Queen could of right, and according to law,
demand the insertion of her 31ajesty's name in the
Liturgy; and this impression was in no degree shaken
by the speech of the lion. Member for (Word, elm
would, he was assured, agree with him in this propo-
sition, that any privileges established by the act of
rnifortnity•were meant in aid and assistance of, and Not
adversely to the Crown.--(Hear, on the Ministerial
benches,)—The lion. (Wildman also combated the doc-
trine that the Queen's name should he inserteth.in the
Liturgy, whatever might he the circumstances of degra-
dation or guilt which marked her conduct, maintaining
that the umisition of the *teen of George the First was
a case in point upon this question. But notwithstand-
ing these and other considerations, lie felt that the
Crown, the Gm-rumen!, and that horse shirdel give fly
something, in order to tranquillise the public nand.
Mr. 81111111 T rose midst condoned cries of tt Que.,-
lion," end contended that, hoth on the plaint of law anal
of eepetliency, the Qneen's lIAIlle ought to be restored
to the Liturgy.
The cries of " Question." then became lona and in-
cessant, in the midst of "thick Sir J. Maztiainasies amid
Mr. Alderman Batoces With rose, and shortig declared
themselves to be opposed to the proposition of the lion.
Mover.
The gallery was then cleared, and the how divided—
For the motion . . . . 17s
Against it . . • . . 2lid •
Moloritc against tile fruition "iiel2o
OR IMPOUND DIsFRANCiIinEMF.NTIIILI.
On our re-atinuission to the gallery we toner(
Lord J. RUSSELL moving "that the hon.• sin re-
solve itself into a Committee of 'the whole bemuse un the
above bill."
In the Committee, Mr. R. MARTIN stiggested,
that it should be.miele mandatory in the returning ufficer
to administer the bribery oath. It was often onpleasatit
to gentlemen who were candidates,. to itisiet on the ad-
ministration of that oath : Wit this di("actiltv would be
completely removed, if the returning odicer were oblig-
ed to introduce it.
After a few words from Lord .1. Iti-Asra.t., the
CIIANCRLLIPR of the Exea coves. and Mr. it. limns:KT,
Mr. MARTIN said, her emild nut impede the progress
of the hill, by pressing his suggesdon.
Mr. MAXI % ELL stated, that if it were intended in
fntnre to adopt the principle on which this bill proceed-
ed, ire would, when an opportunlay occurred, pat in a
claim for the city of Glasgow. It was a matter worth,'
of consideration. whether a great cite, like Olosietitr,
containing 150,000 inhabitants, shoula -mit), bare an
interest in the representation in that lionse•onee in Y 7
years.
Some verbal amendments hiving been made. the
house resumed, the report was received, and ordered to
-betakes Into Wilier consider:at' on Friday se'nnight,
anti the bill, as amended,. was ordered to be riveted.
QUEEN% ANNOTY BILL. _ **
The report of the above Bill was bemiii. 1p
t ,1 • !Treed
to, MO ordered' to be read a third time toonopuw, (this
day) irtheli•etieroased.• ' •
- ':- ..-orretAux AT-MANCRia_
Mr. IMBHOUSE, on the part of
Coliorigne (Sir F. Burdett,) gave notice

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Thursday, the Mb of May teak relative t. the %maw'
tioas tit Maorisastee on the 16th of Angela. lOW
ThstiIIANCILLOR of the EXCHEQUER breahht
in a Bill iot esistinoing certain '?nties on malt, tobaceo,
spirits, ke- for the service of the year 1821.—Rcad the
ilr‘t thief to. he reml the 'Proud time to-morrow.
• 'the CHANCFA.LOR of the EXCHEQUER brought
in a Rill for appropriating the gum of 5,000,000 f. from
the supply of leitO, to the service of the present year.—
Read the first time, sod ordered to be read the second
time to-morrow.
The CH.VXCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER pro..ented
the report of his Majesty's Commissioners for building
near atirches.
Adjourned at a quarter put one o'clock.

OLD C:' DUMAS DAR.—Holiday at all the TPuhl:o Ogees.

LONDON:
WEDNZSDAT Tiltal'AßT 14, 1841.

Accounts have heel+ received frnm Paris this tram:
in; to the 12th inst. They are silent as to hostilities
basin commenced hetscrea Austria and Naples;
nor has any account been received thereof the passage
of the Po. The French Funds were 84 francs.

The motion of Mr. JOHN SMITH last night, for the
House of Commons to address his Winery, that her
illaaraTv's name should be inserted in the Collects
and Litur6-,. with the view of restoring tranquillity
to the public mind, was negatived by a majority of
a hundred and twenty. In what other assembly of 1
Englishmen consisting of less than four hundred and
eighty persons, and composed of a due portion ails-
telligence and solicitude for their country's welfare,
a like number could be found, under the existing eitH
ettrustances of the nation, to come to a similar (lea.
lion, we are quite at a loss to imagine. On no oe-
rasion was the fer'ing of the majority of the people,
and that of the majority of the House of Commons
more at variance than at present; and at no tine*
could the pretence of virtual representation be more
unseasonably opposed than now to the demands of •
lteform in Parliament. Trinuiphantly as the right of
the Qvc EN to the point at issue had been eatahlishesi by 11
Mr. W2111E14E1.1. and others on a former occasion, the
elaim in question war urged on the ground of elp 1,
diency alone, for the purpose of allaying the discontent*
of the people. All, however, that appears to be gained
by this conciliatory mode of application, is the support
of Mr. Wti.naarosca and one or two more votes of
a similar description. The saute petty spirit of spleen
that suggested in the first instance the omission of the
QUEEN'S name in the Liturgy, with the view of insult-
int; her MAJESTY, is still resolved on its continuance
with the view of defeating the interference of the peo-
ple. A hope is entertained by Ministers that the
popular spirit can be wearied out with disappoint-
ment ; but in the mean time the people are aware
that the abatement or the alteration imputed to the
public mind is as completely false, as the pretext as-
tatine(' by their opponents for resisting their prayers—
a regard to female virtue and decorum.

It it affirmed, with apparent authority, that extra,
sive reduction relative to the army is exaggerated
'llir only redaction now expected is that of the 'Veteran
Battalion..
Yesterday the Dispatches were closed at the East
India House, and delivered to the. Pursers of the
following ships. :—Waterloo, Captain It. Alger,
and Vansittart, Captain W. U. C. Palrymple, for
St. Helena, lioftilmy, and China.
Suaorsaiiir. Cowtati.—We have already noticed
the tumults that hail taken place amongst the collier,
in Shropshire, and the fatal results that had attended
them. The Gfrwrrater Jepurnal; received yesterday
Morning, statist, that " some of tin. colliers on Thurs.
'..rlav last rrtnriusil to their work; and it is hoped husi-
: was will still,' proceed with quietness and industry.
i Hoe account adds, that on the morning after the
skirmish, the rioters assembled on the same groutui,
provided a ith ammunitiou stolen from the works, with
I shoot 130 small arms. and three pieees of cannon, the
ri hide driwn op in regular array, having a centre
booty, and right and left wings, with close and
even front. ln this position they waited tiil
noon, when their patience began to be weary,
and they gradnally dilpersed. Had the mi-
litary met them in the morning, without doubt the
mischief tool loss of human lives on tooth sides would
have. b :ea..grcat..
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• 1:411" INTRLLIGENCE.

CoVRT OF KING'S BENCII, W. CSTNIIVITRIt—Turoveu
A: Nisi erius, before the Chief Justice and a Special Jury.

ii, vie r. .TAOO.
This was an action of asserupsit.-11r. SCARLETT was
for the plaintiff and Mr. LISSAIbIi for the defendant.
The action was brought to recover hack 71. nil4l, whirl'
the defendant alleged he hail paid in his own wrong,
under these rirvitoistanees :—Tugg,. the deliwelant, is a
person dealing .in jewellery, though nut a re;:nl..r
tr.taestit:lll, and fires in Coelspitr-street : Davis
:is a res. pectwhle jeweller in llear•street, beirester-
fields. It appeared that the defendant was in the
lishit of calling at his house in Bear street, to visit
a person there very frequently, but without having any
kaowkslge whatever of Mr. Davis blur. elf. On one of
these occasions he brought some jewellery, whirls he of-
fered Mrs. Davis for sale, and this was repeated *gain,
so that she had purchased a chain, A seal, and some other
articles, to the amount of 13!. he representing them as
file gold, or hying what is called 60s. ounce gold. Mr.
Davis, upon their laring shown him, suspected their vs.
Ise, and showed them to a refiner, and hail them assayed,
when it appeared that they were unlv'4Us. gold. flee
.defernlant, however, refused to refund any money, and
therefore the tertian was brought. •
The plaintitis son proved the warranty given by the
defendant of the articles being fin, gold, and a iefinor
spoke to utak fad value.
Mr. Dumas, for the, defence, contended that this
was only a fair and legitimate puff of kis goods by his
e and he trailed Uthittry meld aft be ion severe:
i isionitroing a man's recommeidation, when he was.