The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-10-21 00:00:00

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PRICE SEVEN PEN('}.

ant further comment, that Mr. Powell he called to 11? e
liar.

The lARD CEA?/CELLOR thought that this was a most
dangerous proceeding, arising out of another mast dan-
gerous proceeding.
'I he Marquis of LANstiou ?et raid, that it was clear
that sending Itastelli out of the country atne!Tnted to
a breach of their Lordships' orders, and that, too, by-
the agent to the Bill. Would not their Lord•hips it
least inquire into the conduct of that individual
Lord LIVERPOOL said, that if any special ground
were stated fur bringing up Mr. Puwell, thnr might
be a question for further consideration, but at the pre-
sent moment he would resift the motion.

The Marquis of LA NS DOWN a said, that this %Asa plea-
tion of privilege; and if the Counsel had I:outset:
to do with the prucectling,—*lly should they be called
in E.

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Lord liou.snn said, that for a proceeding. so coin-
Piet.*lv anomalous. it was hard to knots. what conm•
Their Lordships had thnnght lit to
establish what they were .pleased to Call a Select Cosa- -
mittee ; but what they all knew, was a Secret Commit-
tee. lie was oue of dome who wished that this most
mysterious and singular affair should he fully di-arrant,.
—(llear.)----They had permitted the Counsel to r -
titmice the inquiry, and at the same time, they said, th
the inquiry was not complete. lac this mode of pro
ceeding, the House had stultified themselves. Ile, there-
fore, supported the motion that Mr. Powell should 1•••
called in and examined.

Lord ELLENISOROCOII thoncht that this matter shonl.l
he viewed in two points; first, as an elicit ucti no to the
Queen's defence; secondly, as a question of privilege
In the second point, he thought it had been viewed by
their Lordships, and lie was of opinion, that Mr. Powell .
should not he called in, unless some statement had bera
made of fresh matter haring Collie to the inforinatioo of
the Counsel.
The Earl of aysfr said, that in whatever way
they looked at the case—a holier as an obstruction of
justice, or whether as a breach of privileer, in either
point of view their lordships ought to I ro..eed on
strict inquiry. The latter case, namely, the con-
struction of public justice, app eared to hint by far
the 111031 important ; he conee.s ell that the application%
of Connect could not he resisted; that application
rested on a principle which thozir Lor,lsloips had laid
down, that of doing silbstan•ial justice. In his
opinion their Lordships would not support the priu-
eiples, either of justice or of reasoa, if they refit,el
the further examination of Powell. Feeling as he tl;fi,
he need not say that lie concurred must fully in th •
declaration of his Noble Friend (Lord Holland), that
that unfortunate, anti he wonitl repeat the words of his
Noble Friend, that most cotitamptible proceeding
ought to he altogether given up. lie could n,4 help
expressing his astonishment in wi:iiessi!og, doe after
day, the proceedings of that Louse. Fur the
three ur four days they had been n •thing a all :
they had not advanced one single step tow ,T;ls the
c.dielusion of the inquiry. He was now mire con-
vinced than ever that they could not by reaFilrility
come to any conclusion on this unfortunate
(t 'heera.)—They haul already etbausteolm ode of dui...*
time upon it: they had met at an a.u.ual One of the
year, and at unusual Lours. On coining down to the
House in a morning, and steriny the formidahle ape
paratios that surrounded it, Itt• eunlui scarcely befit, e
himself awake, but that he was still in a tercels ,
dream. These loroceeJings wooed be interniivahlr,
unless they got rld of then at once, and the 500 p....
they did that the hitter.
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'ilk. proposal of the Earl of CAR nti N w•as ne,-a-
-1%141.

ALEXANDER OLIVIER! was then called and sworn-
-1 lawined by Nlr. Ti. ti t
Were you ever in the service of the Viceroy of Italy
have been.
You served in the army of Itnss:a ?-1 did.
Were you SaLen pri•ro:ier there !
When did you return from Ituzsia!—On the IS!i of Fe-
bruary 1813.
Were you afterwards in the French army !—Yes.
What rank did you null in that arm; !--Tlint of Colonel.
Who did you first see her al nightie's the Pcinc,..4
of 11 'ales the year ISIO, %hen she uss at her ‘1:i1
at Como.
Llo you recollect seeing her Royal Highness at Itoule?
—I do.
When was that?-1 think in the beginning of Jane.
MI her Itoral Incliness at th.tt time give yon an in-
vitation to visit her ?—She did use the honour to admit
tar at her table.

Did she at any time invite von to her Villa at Pesaro !
—Yes. I paid her a visit in N'ovenil et.
WA' any proposition then issyle to you to join I.or
Royal Highness's suite ?--There was.
lu what situation were you to join her suite?—.ls oie
attached to her Court. _

flow lung did you serve is that capacity r,•a;-
nurd so till the 4th of November of the following t•:
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Did rou then receive any other employment under her
Royal •Hichness,-1 had the honor of beiug made :Lc:-
Chamberlain. _

Were you sole Chamberlain. or joint Chamhe•lain m••• 1
any others ?—There were others at Cour:. Tner,• was -.1-
body eke as Chamberlain but Rartolonto
Do you receive at this time any pension from her Re, al
Iliglinevs 1-1 do not.
Are yon a married man ?—1 am.
llase you onyfamily ? —I have a wife and a daughter.
Did they ever visit her Royal highness ?—No.
Do you live with them when at home ?—I do.
Do you reeolect her Royal highness oeing at Rome
?—I do.
Did you sup with her Royal Ilielines% the et enint, hef •ri
she set out from thence on her journey to F etirl-ses
had that honour. .

What time did she 'get out !—About
Did you hand her Ro)al highness toiler carriage /-1 had
also that honour. -
What cArriage was it?—lt was a lauthlalet ;an En,-
lisb chariot.
Who went into the earriare with her Royal Di& It-
ness ?—The Countess Oldl, the chamberlain tterga.d.
and a little child.
Was the Count Vassali on that journey ?-11e 'was.
And Lieutenant llownani?—Yes.
Did you ser them?-1 bowed to them.
Didyou ever yourself travel itsekat same carriage i
Sometimes.
• You know it very well?—Yes, I know it.
Do y.ot know who rode as courier from ROlllll.lll tltft
limner 7.4.4 saw Carle Ford set out as courier.

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