The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-10-20 00:00:00

PRICK Sin-RN Pm-p.

from attending the trial. He conclude -I by saying, that
a more untenable proposition was never before oil! .• •
lanced in a Couit id-Justice.
• •
Mr. iIIIOI:6iVAM expressed some surprise, that his • •
friend, Mr. Parks, if he hail a case to prodovr, should t.
have held it over until now. But hr remembered the cosi
well, for he had been employed in it. and he could note
draw the same conclusions that Mr. Parke did from it.
The CHAncettoo regretted, that the Impieties' of
these legal arguments, as to the admissibility of evi-
dence, shofild• &rear, particularly, as he had been so
long abstracted from the practice of the Courts below.
And he therefore thought that in order to remove any
doubt from the minds of their Lordships, on a point of t
such great importance, that they should aid their ;wig-
mut, by the opinions of the learned Jtidges,
eimik cat idene, as Lord Coke wisely ob4rvel, and in
order more clearly to inform the Howie open this par-
ticular case, he proposed that the following question
should he put to the judges :—.Whether in the adminis-
tration of puke in the Coasts below, when a witness
for the prosecution had been examined in chief, and had
not been cross-examined is to any declarations he hail
made relating to his procuring witnesses for the prosr-
eutiun, whmlier the Counsel for the defence resold bring.
evidence to prove such declaratidn, without first roiling.
on the witness to tnow if he bad erer male such d: cla-
ration ?"

Earl finer was of opinion that the eases eitetl
the Queen's Counsel did not apply. In the present 1:4%0
then, was positive proof that one of the witnesses had
attempted to support the proseciition by subornation of
pßrjnry. The qaestion uf agency he considered as hav-
ing been disposed of, and he thought suffi-ient had. been
slime to connect the witness Sacehi with the Milan
Commission. lle agreed that if there were any eivoslst
upon the present question, the most advisable course
would be to take the opinions of the Judges.
The Earl of Livritecsro said he was perfectly satisfied
the gape of agency bad not been made nut: but with the
view to get rid of the present difficulty, he proposed that
the witness Saechi should be called up and examined as
to the particular facts now in disibite. If her Majesty's
Counsel should see no reason to object to this cour:e,
might possibly remove the difficulty : butt should it not
he so, it would then be competent for their Lordships to.
consult the Learned Judges.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought the suggestion
of the Noble Earl who had just sat down should be
met, but it must he on the express condition that the
Queries Comma did not object se It.
The Loan Cuss:m.lAm then asked Mr. nrooghama
whether he objected to the calling up the willed.; •
Sarrhl.

Mr. Ilitoraussr---" 11fy !Ards, I know not what te
sar on this attlojeet. When I wanted the ►eprodluction
of a witness, it turned out that he Lad hero sent out of
the country. Perhaps Sacchi may nut make his appear-
atwe."—(.l laugh).

The Loan Civineet.tost.-31e. Groqc thfS
question which I have it in command from the House fo •
ask rout, is, whether coo 'object to the sailing in the wit...=
mess I have named."'
Mr. BRorcii.l3l—" Certainly not, my Lord."
A long desultory and very uninteresting &hate. or ratter
conversation. now took ptare between the Lord
Earl Grey, the Earl of fainderdale. Lords Horand and Er-
skine, as to the terms in which Saeciti should be qttestioned t't
on being brought up ; when the Lord Chahceltor observed, •.
that the Goose wonki never e..t out of the difficulties Wlfft •
*Web It was surrounded, listless their lordships would eomv,*;.
suit the Judges wiwre:o It etas necessary to do so, before,
dividing opon the question muter discossion, end he proposed
thel the Judges should he consulted out the present occasion,
and his Lordship's proposal was agreed to by the House. ' -
Lord Enaktv r. proposed a question to the following •
e:fet•t :—Whether if, In any crime or in any canse
tried in- the Courts below, a witnes was called by the
prosecutor to give evidence against the defendant,
and that after his elimination by the defendant's
Counsel, it should he discove••etl that the witness to
examined had en.legvnnred to corrupt another person,
the Conn•el for the defendant wile ht not be allowtd
to give evidence of such corruption, without calling
back such witness?
The Loan CHANCILLOR then read the two Torstions.
The FAR Of CA‘MARPoN thought there could he
very little difference of opinion as to the fact that the..
House could oh I oitebt to go into the inquiry. The -
eft...et of propo ing the goes inn to the Judges would •
be to place the House again in the awkward sitstadit tt .
of taking the opinion of the Judges as they did v a
ter las-, and then dissenting from that opiuio* wee I it,
was obtained. Whether Sacehi was an agent or a
witness, they ought to know whether he'hod not him-
self been active in sulvorsing other persons to give Psi-.
detme similar to and confirmatory of his own. They
could not do justice in the present case without going- •
into that inquiry. He therefore did not see why they'
should divide the question into so Many points, inert*
for the purpose of pussling themselves and giving tvt-
necessary trouble to the Judges. In order to uhvi_tg.
this, be shenid tuove as at► amendment, toleare on ail
the words after the word " that" in the origival mo-
tion, for the purpose of snbstitnting these words, " the
question proposed be now put."
Lord IteogsnaLe eonfeasml that the argnrnent at
the her had produced a ronsitlerahle effect upon 'his
mind, so that be doubted mach the propriety of paftiax
the question.
The questibn being then put on the Earl of Caiisar-
ron's Amendment, it was negatived withvnt a divis.utl;
and the questions pruineM by Me Lord Chance:lw.
and Lord Erikine were both °Heim' to be put to the
Judges.
''-At half- past three the Lord. Chancellor hitiina.t. it to
the House that the Judges wished to retire. .L0i4,..h.
'at the time of the day, he thoaeht their
0-euld see that it
_would be better to adjoitru.tu khit
frworning.—Adjourned