The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-04-19 00:00:00

DUTCH P.APE.RS.

UTRECHT, APRIL 13.—0 n the 11th lost. at
five o'clock it the morning, his Majesty arrived
ii Amsterdam, in good health. This joyful event
was announced to the inhabitants of the capital
by the firing of the guns.
AMSTER D i!K, APRIL 10.—In execution of the
Bth article of the Treaty concluded at Paris, the
greatest activity prevails in the King's yards. A
number of hands are already employed in the dock
ber S, to clear away the mud, in order to get the
bcavy ships afloat ; and the commanders of the
vessels in the Texel, who, upon the landing of the
Diglish, were removed, with their crews, to man
the gunboats, by which the further progress of
the enemy was prevented, have been ordered by
his Majesty to return, as soon as possible, to their
r, spectre vessels, sod to resume their former
commands.

DEATH OF JEFFERY,
TUE UNFORTUNATE SEAMAN LEFT ON THE
ISLAND OF SOMEREEO.

" PLYIIOO7II, APRIL I6.—Friday last two smugglers,
who had been some time in the American merchant service,
arrived at Fowey, with a letter to the mother of the unfortu-
nate Jeffery, from the American Captain with whom they
had sailed, stating, that be took the unhappy man off the
island of Sombrero, after :ie had been on it a fortnight
without sustenance ; that he had eaten the flesh off his
arms, and tiled in two hours after having been taken on
board, though every attentson was paid him. Notwith-
standing his miserable situation, he was perfectly sen-ible.—
The Captain ha; expressed his willingness to come forward
with his testimony ow oath. I shall forbear entering more
tally into this bustneig till I have made a thorough inquiry,
and for tSat purpose have sent down to Fowey. lo the mean-
time, give me leave to say, that 1 conceive the stateineut
rests tiu a good foundation."
The above is copied from a respectable Evening Paper 9f
yesterday, in which the letter is accompanied by the follow-
note:—
(We are authorised to add, that the Gentleman who sent us
the abuse information, has desired us not to withhold his
oanie from those whose duty it may be to investigate this
atrocious traasactiap.)—Star.

JOIIN' GALE JONES. •

Yesterday a Meeting was held at the Crawl and' Anchor
Tavern, for the purpose of taking into consideration the im-
viriant pniots connected with the imprisonment of John Gate
J nes, and far adopting such measures for bissupport as might

be deemed necessary.
Mr. CLIFFORD being called to the Chair, addressed
the Meetintshertly. He observed, it would be neceesary
for him to Mate that the present Meeting had been called,
in consequence of one which had taken place on the 27th of
March last, at the same place ; at that Meeting &subscription
bad been entered into fur the support of Mr. Jones, and a
Committee appointed, who were to call a subsequent
Meeting at any time they should think proper—that time,
in consequence of what passed to the House of Commons oat
Monday, they considered as being arrived. 'With the abo-
minable and uncorstitittional conduct which bad been pursued
with respect to Sir F. Burdett the prsent Meeting had no-
thing to do, the present was a distinct consideration. Sir F.
Barlett was a Member of the House, Mr. Joies was not.—
The present question was not whether the House had the
power of imprisoning their own Members, but whether they
old trissess the power of imprisoning, at pleasure, and
!o:- ay leugth of time, their constituents. It was therefore
b• roux a duty with the people to express their senti-
ri-nts by every constitutional means in their power—one of
bore means was by calithg Meetings in every part of the
cua..try, and thus affording an opportunity of having the
question fully discussed. He trnsted the present Meeting
would *Surd an example to the other "tart of the country of
Cie necessity of such distaissioa,• and also of the necessity of
emoting into a subscription for be support of that individual
witose cause was become the cause of the public. He sboold
propose some Resolutions for the consideration of the Meet-
ing, si hich, if approved of, would be adopted.
let. That it appeared that on the 21st of February last, the
Rouse of Conituma had, without any evidence being takeu
upon oath, adjudged John Gale Jones guilty of a libel upon
the House; and the House did thareupou order ltim, without
trial, to committed to Neergate during trial.
24. That it also appeared from the proceedings of the
House of Commas on the 16th inst. that the said John Gale
Jones was now continued in contiatanent not for the original
oe'ence, but for contumacy in lowing omitted to present a pe-
tition, acknowledging the right of the House to inflict loch
punishment. •
3d. That all cases of libel were cognizable in the Coartao(
Law, and ought to be there decided I and that any unueces-
saty departure from the system of our ancient Laws, was
alike dangerous to the stability of the 'Throne, and destruc-
tive of the Liberties of the People.
4th. That to obviate the evil eftcm which might arise from
spell practices being drawn Into a precedent, n sithseriptionl
be mitered Into for supporting the-said Johns kale Jones, sod
to dray the expeoces of vhwiirataig, by all .r.anstitutitioll:
means, the unalienable birth-right of the people—a Triaiby
a Jury of their equals. • ,
These Resolutions were put and carried unanimously.
Dir. CLIFFORD observed, he could nut surer the last Re -!1
.elution to pass without a few observations, and, again recoils-'
spending the necessity of general discussion. The discussion,
Whiclilusrl already arisen on the question had been productive.
of gererni good ; this a ould appear from the proceedings of
the House of Commons last night. Formerly the House of
Commons bad asserted that their privileges were indefinable
by any Court, and only to be limited by themselves, and any
persoit daring to sue out a writ against the Speaker, the per-
n serving the same, or any Serjeant at Law or Barrister,
cumin,; to plead in such a cause, would immediately have
committed to prison fora breach of privilege. The de-
ti-e of last night, however, especially the speech of Mr. Per-
evra, had proved that an individual might sue the Speaker
without :ill these effects following. Mr. Perccval bad last
itgla thrown out a suggestion for the consideration of the
hot:. r, *healer this proceeding was not an infriegernent ar
the 1/t3 of Rights, and the lipase Rented inclined to adopt
the s .ggestioa, that acknowledging that their privileges were
'efinable by an Act of ]Parliament, and of coarse were to
bi construed by the Judges of theland,andwhal marital bet-
ter, by is Jury. This ackoowledgmeut had arisen from the
4aeos?lois which had taken place, and discussion ought al-
to he resorted to when the rights of the people were at-
fenipted-to be infringed.
TeeTbanks of the Meeting were then voted to the Chair-
- L icTie Basks of bubscriptiou were opened, and the Meeting

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THE STATESMAN.

LONDON:

TII47II4IDAY, APRIL 19, Islo.
Oua Readers will see that the Coroner's In.
quest, in the case of EBRALL, shot in Fenchurch.
street, has returned a verdict of " Wit.TUL Moo.
DER against a Life Guardsman, unknown." A
similar verdict was returned in the case of Jame.
PLEDGE, shot in Church-court, Piccadilly. Lord
OSSULSTON brought the latter verdict before the
House of Commons last night, very properly in.
quiring of Ministers—if they bad any intention of
offering a reward for'the discovery of the offen.
der? We are not now about, to comment .on the

evasive answer of Mr. Secretary RYDER, or of
the CULNCELLOR of Ake FaLGSSEev to. "Ministers
had not yet issued such Proclametien, but they
might hereafter do it"—let that pus. The reason-
ing of Ministers in this use, .is the point to which
we have to object. The people were very entre.
geous, and assaulted the sokliers,and it was necessary
for the soldiers to defend themselves." Very well :
that may be so. But the 'Public have nothing to
do with those facts, at yet ; and tho Bonze has
nothing to do with them. A soldier may be tried,
and a verdict may be returned by a Jury of his
country of—justifiable homicide. And in such
case a regard for the interests of the public, as
well as humanity, will rejoice at the issue of the
trial ; for it is more dangerOus to the existence of
the Constitution, and well-being of the State itself,
that the soldiery should wantonly, or even hastily,
from a systematic hatred of the people, destroy
individuals during a tumultuous assemblage,
than that the people when excited to extreme
impatience by an outrage of all their best
feelings should for a time forget that principle
of order, without which, they themselves are
neither safe against the tyranny of auy part of tbs..
Supreme Power, nor against the tumultuous move:"
ments of a mistaken majority of their own class.
To had the Life-Guardsman innocent, therefore,
..would. be matter of congratulatiun with all the
friends of the Country. But the Country
stunt overlook this principal maxim, that where
men have been by the, soldiery, and
a verdict of "WILFUL MURDER" has been the re.
turn of the Coroner's (avail it is riot the Mi.
nistry who arc to decide the feet of guilt or inuo.
samee, bet the COWS/TILT, Jury of thi.PO9P7l
which Country and its Jury, are alone competent
to.try it. We would not go so far as to say, that
it behoves the Executive Government to institute
an inquiry on every occasion where death has ensued
'from the soldiery dispersing a tumultuous assembly,
the Riot Act being read. But where a Coroner's
Inquest has decided that a MURDER is COMMIT.
TED on such occasion, it is the duty of Govern.
meet to inquire strictly after the offender; and
.the more urgent ,is the duty, because, If they do
not do so, they aro in a very eminent degree gc.
nerally answerable to the country for the crime,
and may not very uncharitably be deemed and
taken as Accessantes to the commission of it....
This reasoning applies in the strongest case of riot
on the part of the pcnple, and forbearance on thel
side of the soldiery, when a verdict of wilful mur.
der is given by the Inquest. And Lord OSSULSTON
did .well to bring the case of PLEDGE before the
llouse ; and Mr. WMITEREAD, with that talent
which always distinguishes him, very properly
made the House feel the true bearing of the ques-
tion—the unwarrantable neglect or culpable oasis.
!don of Ministers, in not hieing the Proclamation.
Ministers would make the House It ROMs TO Do
INJURY, RUT WEAK TO REDRESS WRONGS.
'rho case of ERRALL, however, cannot be
evaded by Ministers. Every evidence, on the In.
quoit, proved die soldiery RI have fired without
necessity, on. individuals standing respectively,
without compattiens, or in very small numbers;
consequently without abettors, if disposed to
riot. Self-defence had nothing to do with this
murder. Ministers cannot decline to issue a Pro.
tttlamation here, without tacitly confessing—they
are not sorry for a few such murders.
•WE have this day received further Extracts
from the Spanish Papers, which contain nothing
-dr importance.—We have also received French
'rapers to the 15th instant, and Dutch to the same
date. We have given the most material of the
tiacy contain in another part of the Paper.
The QUEEN has lately presented Mr. BULLOCK,
the proprietor of the Museum, 22, Piccadilly,
with some rare and beautiful birds from Bar-
bary.; the Btsnor of Dottnaleand Lord TRION.
WOUTIi base also, within these few dem added
some very interesting articles to this dclighful and
fuhionablo lace of amusement

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W. 11. LITTLETON, Esq.lll. P.

Sit—Public characters are, in this country,
confessedly amenable to public censure. I shall,
therefore, offer no apology for the liberty which
I oar' take, iatemmenting upon the line of con.
iou4stlopted in the debate which took
piricela the mine of Commons en the 10t1cof
the 'current inosifft, as reported in THE STATES.
*AV of the 'ensuing day. In that debate, Sir,
yea took occasion to " abjure Sir FeiNcts Ben.
inew,not only as a political, but as a priv ate friend"
--end to ",disclaim him from the bottom of your
heart." Now, Sir, when I read these obtrusive
and gratuitous declarations of hostility, I could not
forbear asking myself, who is this individual who
thus industriously apprises the world of his friend.
ships sod his enmities ? Who is this indignant ore.
tor, who thus publicly withdraws from the ITo.
nourable Baronet his countenance ant protection ?
In answer to dock) queries, my recollection sug.
gested to me, that Mr. fATTTLIETON was no other.
wise politically known, than as the organ of a party,
in a miserable party struggle, who made, on that
occasion, an unimpressive speech, and lust his mb.
tion ! Pardon me, Sir, if 1 Say, that, having well
considered the space occupied by yourself in the
public eye, as compared with the well-earned ce.

lebrity of the object of your, animadversion, I
could not help smiling, when I calculated tht im.
pression which the. forfeiture of your favour. would
make to the BARONET'S prejudice, in the mind of
the community at large.

Your abjuration of the friendship of Sir
FRANCIS BURDLTT, Sir, implies that you, till the
moment of that abjuration, ranked among the
number of Ms friends ; and indeed your pointed
allusion to 4.4 the winning manners and amiable
qualities of the Honourable Baronet," not only
strengthens this implication, but proves that
you are .well acquainted with his general habits
and character. And now give me leave, Sir, to
ask you, in the case of questionable conduct on
the part of a friend, is it befitting that delicacy of
feeling,, which ought ever to actuate honourable
minds, eagerly to seize the earliest opportunity of
condemning that conduct iu his absence, without
demanding from hint an explanation, or hearing
what he has to say in potentiation of his imputed
offence? If you answer In the affirmatite, I have
only to say, that though estimating your talents.as
I do, I should never fear your enmity, I should
entertain the most decided dread of your friend.

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ship.
But, it appears that your indignation against
Sir FRANCO was exasperated, because, " from the
firstto the last of his unconstitutional proceedings,
he had been attended by Rocas O'Coirrroa,"
whom you art pleased to designate as " the bro.
• ther of a notorious traitor !" And, though you
discreetly guarded your language, by a profession,
that " you did not wish to be undcrstood'to say that
ROGER O'CONNOR was a traitor," you plainly in.
timated, that, on account of the delinquency of his
brother, he ought to be banished out of so-
ciety !! My hand trembles, whilst I transr
Bribe this atrocious sentiment. What, Sir ! &pp
it become an English Senator thus wantonly lb
spread proscription—thus cruelly to point tine
pangs of afflicted families ? Are near relatives
mutually attainted by each other's guilt ? If so,
what Must you think of the numerous kinsmen of
Lord. EDWARD FITZGERALD ?--.Why do not you
fix the mark of CAIN upon the gallant brother
of the military officer of high, rank, who in the
year 1803 expl..ted the clime of treason by the
forfeiture of ?
Yon are further 'reported as asserting that Aa-
TitURO'CONNOR conducts in Paris an English Paper
replete with treason, and as asking "whether it was
by patronizing, encouraging, and Introducing fo-
reign papers of this description, that the Hon. Bart.
wished to secure and re-establish the liberties of
England ?" Now Sir, upon this insinuation, I
shall propose to you the following queries : If
you were well,auured that Sir Faaucis did " pa.
trottize, encourage, and introduce" papers of the
above-mentioned description, why did you continue
your friendly intercourse with kiln till keen under
the displeasure of the House of Commons ? Why
did not you instantly, upon knowing of these pro.
ceedings, bring him to public justice? If, on the
contrary, you cannot prove this fact, which you
impute to him, why did you insinuate it at alt?...
and especially why did you insinuate it at a season
when he was absent, . helpless and defenceltiss ?
On the horns of this dilemma, Sir, I leave you.
Take your-alternative...the crime of conniving at
a high misdemeanor, or the shame of insinuating
an accusation which you cannot prove,
Many persons are Muck astonished at the treat:
'moot which Sir Fastrcis has experiencedfiries
yourself and your political associates. I!ligy
MIMI to have Expected that your votes .againatdbis
Letter to the SPEAKER would have beep tieldiuted
by any bittee4ss of aggravation, which couldlios.
sibly have been spared. But es far myself,
,theconduct of the different parties in the House
of Coinoloils tgocio lOC ITith

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no surivrice. The vote of censure was ex
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by the whole nation; and as to the e
philippics which preceded it, they are easily sc.
CObiated for. A vigilant inspectOr of public
atinses.will never gall the
will
partial favour of the
Minister of the day—nor ill he receive any am
„e• $l support from an Oppositiops who long to
Sere into place upon the. very system which ae.;
ceiliarily involves those selfsame abuses. Hew
can the Whiggish porough.monen look with
complacency upon him, whose main object is to •
destroy their trade ? How can the traffickers is
patronage entertain any other sentiment than that
of hatred against him who daily strives to d 7 up
the source of their gain ? When a character of dal
description afords any pretext whatever, an Woe
of parties will instantly, be formed to cis*
him.
For some time past, indeed, it has been time ha&
Hug-
of your political friends, Sir, to embrace , eieell
opportunity of paying their toad to the H.
Baronet, and of extolling his talents and his viri
tues to the skies. But these eulogiums did net
proceed from pure admiration, or from sincereafec..
tion. ivy their abetting the "auri sacra fames"
of Lord GRENVILLE) so far as to legalize his held.
lag two incompatible offices...-by their Sliiniithigthe
LORD Cur Ey JUSTICE of the Court of King's Bench
into the Cahinet....by their altered /lingua&
upon the subject of Parliimentary Reform, the
late Administration had forfeited all their popu.
larity with the zealous and sanguine friend of the
amelioration of our political system. The Ca.

tholic Body were disgusted by their dilatoriness is
enforcing their Claims—and a respectable, though
not a uemeroui portion of the community, la.
masted that they had foregone the opportunity of
concluding a general peace. On Ise other band,
they had not been long enough in office toacqnirs
the support of that multitudinous class, wito are
ever ready to lend -their aid to those who, are
established in power. Hence, when. tha Brea
frowned upon them', diey fell, and Ilse*
they stretched out " every side the koala-
ing hand, no one -was willing to raise them
from the ground. Confessedly eminent la ta.
lent, comprising is their rants almost all the
landed Aristocracy of the Country, and, Igo
sincerely believe, endued with more individail
integrity Ethan usually _falls to, the lot of party,
they were "deserted at their utmost need" or
those who-are the natural supporters of Oppoei.
Lion ; namely, the middling and lower fiats of Ai
community. The political adeshration of tidies,
merous class of the population of Eugbuid vas
transferred to Sir F. BURDETT) *bolted never given
a pledge -which he had dot redcomed—who had
been uniform its his principles through evil report
and good report, and who was daily rating in latest
and reputation. The.Wbige, sensible of their
own decline, and of his advancement in pope,
lardy,- found it expedient to treat hint, with
marked respect. It seems to have been their po-
licy to endeavour to share In his trletripiii, sod to
• catch the gale of public favour which accompanied
him in all his proceilliags. But the Ilan. Ram.
net received their advances with coldness. lie
Would not coastal' to 'walk in their train. fie
would not condescend' to square his views to their
wishes. With an uoliardonable perverseness, at
the critical moment when the Whigs imagined did
they could overturn the tottering Ministry, by
an .appeal to the people on the subject of the
,Vralcheren Expedition, Sir Fasxcis cousind
the idea that the personal liberty of his cooing.
men was a matter of higher concern than say
change in the Administration of a system of ahem
It is not at all wonderful in my eyes, Sir, that at
offender of this description should receive, from
the cuuning of one party, and 'from the vexation
of another, as severe a punishment, 113 Wag Cow
'pliable with considerations of expediency, and m
vehement reproaches as could be dictated by dis-
appointed ambition. • •
It appears, Sir, that Sir FRANCIS irCOOlillitlid
to the Tower fur trenching upon, the dignity of
the House of Commons. May the dignity of tbst
Howse be ever supported ! But this cannot be ef-
4ected by the infliction of pans and penalties.'
True dignity, whether of individuals or of bedil
of men, resides its the character. And 4401
upon it, Sir, that the dignity of your beeourable
House own be maintained only by the wisdom of
its incasuresiand by the decorum and prodente of
• its proceedings. If public abuses obtain its sego.
lion, however threaseniug an attitude it may al'
Item, it' will be despised. If the two great
Ass into which it is divided spend their, dot is
mutual recrimination,' while necessary Vt°
Pig"' re'
are cuisidinded, in vain will it claim the
,pect. I well remember that two mereboots p 0« ,
appeared on the. Exchange of Liverpool, to pros
'claim each other i4li rogues ; and that the Plb",
nweevreerpbleentshetle thonhbeellerppye
ltbliteeml both
ehlettetes: Oup
this oral
rarlionientvis the.sincero wish of
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/V TfiE EDnVin bP TUE St4'ESX;II4%
silt,
Fir VIRARY Mies: cite Attoruey-Oinitil: of
England, awl Recorder of Bristol, has 'arrived ih
this city, for the eurpoie utpresiding is his.utheiii
capacity at our Assiies, and. I seise the first ep.-
portunity of acquainting you with the 'mutter off
yis reception.
uu', I should previimity state, that about the
middle of the lest week, a .letter-was thrust under
the Couticil House done, containing sentiments of
the trr.iagest nature, and yesterday morning our
Clief Magistrate received one signed by six ficti-
tious names, declaring that a secret society ex.
well, who had resolved that Sir VicartY should
not come into the City alive, or, if he did chance
to escape, that their vengeance would reach him ff
ere lie quitted the Town ; this letter was forward.
rd to Sir Vicattx Gums, with a request from the
rdavor that he would enter early, in consequenee
of which he arrived here full three hours sooner
1151st, and in disguise—What a dignified
o,,Atioil fur the Attorney-General !!!
Letters were posted about the city, in which
hi; votes on the Duke of YORK'S business,' the
Walcherett Expedition, and Sir FRANCIS, Boa.
eilr's Committal, were stated as recommenda-
tions to his fellow-citizens, and entreating them
to ply him proper respect; this, as was to be ex.
peered, only served to fan the flame, and when the
Recorder arrived, about half-past four, ho was re-
ceir es! with one universal hiss, execrations poured
in from all quarters, and the air rang with cries of
" BURDETT for ever ;" lint our Magistrates liar.
ing enforced the atteuilance of a large body of
constabb.s, no personal violence was attempted.—
He then proceeded to the Guildhall, opened the
Court, and adjourned to the Council llouse,
from whence the cavalcade removed to the
blayotalty House in Queen.square, accompanied
by the howlings of the snob ; when they reached
that place, oyster.s!tells and other missile articles
were thrown at the carriage inclosing the Alton.
NLY-GENTEDAL, who hung back in a corner, as if
fearful of perceiving the loud disapprobation of
his conduct.

u.•s•cending froro the carriage, many stones
Nvere holed from the mob, one of which nearly
struck Sir VICARY on the head, and after they
h 4,1 proceeded to the interior of tile mansion seve.
ral windows were broke; a large body of additi.
on4l constables were sworn in, which served to
keep the populace in awe, but in the interim the
Council House was attacked, and all the windows
broke; the Guildhall sharCd the same fate, and
all the lamps in the principal streets •were demo.
lished. It has been asked,- where was the Civil
Power all this white ?—I answer,. in Queen:
liquare, guarding the sacred person of the Arroa.
NEY.GENEaAII and all the Turtle Eaters.
I remain, yours, &c.
Kin;cdnwne, near Bristol, J. F.
Arl 17, 1810.
P. S. Since writing the above, otir Corporation
has issued a Proclamation, offering a reward of
fifty pounds for the discovery or offenders; not.
withstanding which, strong disturbance. are et.
pected this evening. The Arrooymy-GaNtaat.
slept out of town last night, at his brother's house)
&.Maud•

WILFUL MURDER. .

—Awn— •
Yesterday a Coroner's Inquest was held before Tilos( aa
SuLurosi, Esq. on the body of Thomas Ebrall. who was
killed iu Mr. Goodeve's shop, Mincing-late, on Monday, the
9th at. The Jury sat five hours.
Mr. Goo DSV E was the firstyetson called. He stated, that
abet] the first part of the soldiers had passed his house, situ-
ated the corner of Mincing-lase, there were not more than
90 people assembled near his shop, and those were neither
his.ing nor throwing stones. As soon as the rear-guard had
passed his window. four or five of them tented, sound and
iced : at this time he did not see any penal, near his shop.
lie forced his family into the te,liar. The deceased was
snarling by his side in the shop. Ile observed one soldier io
particular turn his home round,. and level his piece at his
window; the window broke, and the glass hit his face; at
the same instant the deceased fell.-
TUOMAS WOO LCOT met wish. the deceased, whom he
knew, at the corner of Minciog-lane, Mid stood with him
tear the hoot-maker's shop when aloe main body of the
soldiers oassed. All was very quiet in that quarter. After
the rear-guard had passed, four or five of the soldiers turned
round and fired ; he by this time missed the deceased, and be
supposed he must have gone ioto the shop. After the firing
commenced, every one near Mr. Goodeve's shop went away,
except himself and one or two other.; he did not go, be-
cause he did not believe they were firing with ball. He.
stood against Mr, 600deve's shop-window until a ball
struck it, and on looking in, he saw a man lying on the
tine wounded, whom he knew to be the deceased: At
the time the pistol was fired, there were not snore than
tan beside himself. Neither hissing, or any other
insult was offered to the soldieni near him. On going to pros
cure a Surgeon to assist Mr. ERRALL, mother .pistol was
tired, the ball from which passed so near him that he took
shelter iu a shop. When be was hear the shop-window of
Mr. Goodeve,. he saw some dirt in the Lir towards Nlark-
lane, but this was 150 or 200 yards from the spot where the
deceased was shot. lie observed several of the soldiers with
loud Red dirt NI them. The people assembled. in Fenchurch-
weet, near Mark-lane, he believed not to be more than from
40 to 51. The instant the soldiers began to fire, about half
ofthe above ininiber ran up Star-cpurt, and he saw one of the
Life Guards go and deliberately lire up it. He did not' ob-
serve the particular soldier that fired at the window.
Mr. Et.storr, a druggist. who lives in Fenehurch-street,
proved that he saw some of the mob with brick-bats. and
saw them throw them at the soldiers, but this was not near the
shop %here the deceased was killed. Ile saw two soldiers
• are, when they had nothing that be saw to fire at; and be
bad a strong suspicion that one of them was the person that
shot the deceased.
'NOW A S LICCTT 'WAS ata two-pair of stairs window;
14/1 17 or 18 ) "ung awn throw something at the soldiers. Ile
I.lw nue stone thrust n soda piece of a plate; but this was not.
near where the deceased was shot, hut near Mark-lane.-.-
Witness heard the soldiers who formed the rear-guard re-
heatedly called on to join the ranks, but they didnot obey.—
Ile heard one man call to those that were firing, and observed
him to wave his mllord, and to say,--.." D—n them, come
away." He noticed one foot passenger walking along very
quietly, when one of the rear-guard, apparently its a rage.
levelled his pi‘tol at him, and pulled the trigger, but it missed
hire; be Veen re-cocked it, aed fired again at he passenger,
ain fortunately missed him. The ball went through the shop
window of Mr. l'ort.t.tes, an auctioneer. He proved that
there as no disturbance at any time near the shop of Mr.
Guodeve, occasioned by the ratite. •
Mr. WALL, of St. Thomas s Hospital, attended the de-
ceased : he proved that a ball had entered near Ins collar bone,
broke about an inch and a half of it, broke the first rib, tad
ruptured a large blood vessel. He attended to assist in open-
-1a; the body of the deceased, and stated the ball to be the
=use of his death.

Mr. THORNTON, Mr. SWAM, aa4 Mr. Wcl.SOtt, of FM-
dorch.street. corroborated the evidcoce of Mr. Lycerr.—
tirfire 7 Mated that the moh titre tr`stones, and the soldiers
; but 1114 there was no di,turhanee an the part of the
farmer mar Mr. finorleve's shots.
Mr. SHELros summed up the driienre with great care
atndabiiitv,and laid much tri•ss no the evidence of .far. Goad-
!Yr, who had pmitirely sworn that's' particular soldier had
wed Lau the shop, when there was no apparent caws to jus-
tif v it.
'far Jury retired for about five minutes, and brought in a
yadiet of .fititliit ifurdzr egainst a Soldier in the rear of the
I.ift Guor.!l, Mit jarred through leuchurch•strert, about oar
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AlM*t three isiltselt. their Lordships met, when
the Speaker of the Commons attended at the Bar of the
I.Honse to receive. by Commissitin; the Royal Auteuil.
The Corniuission ,tau dated at We.tuiin,ter, wider the
•Xing's Sign Manual. this 18th day of April ; present, the
loinmissimierq. bring _ till Lord Chancelliw; the Earl of
ylesfor,l, and Lord Walsmghain. Amongst the Bills which
received the Royal Assent, making In the whole forty-eight,
.iveve—the Irish Linen, and Irish Silt Trade Bali.. the Local
Militia Completion, and Local Militia Antendlueut Bills,and
an Art for extending the Potters of the Act respecting the
Royal limitution in Albemarle-street. The remaining Bills
were chiefly relating to Raub, Ittclosures, Rates, nod Bu-
rial Grounds.
Setter& Bills were afterwards ftirwarded in their respec-
tive stages.
Messages from the House of Commons, by Si( M. W. Rid-
ley, Sir C. Bunbery, Sir J. Cockrell, nod Mr. Boyle,
brought up three 'Bills from. that House; and Mr. Peter
Moore, from the same House, brought up the Highgate
Archway Bill.
Bieiness being finished. their Lordships, on the motion of
the Loan Cis Kcer.t.oa, now adjourned till Wednesday,
the Yd of May ensuing. .
HOUSE OF COMMONS, Amu. 18.

The SPEAKER, pursuant to a Message by the Black
Rod, attended in the House of Peers, where the Royal As-
sent was given by Commission to the Foreign Linen BW, the
Irish Silk M.inufacture Bill, the Militia Completion Bill, the
Local Militia Bill, and several private Bills.
The Irish Insolvent I)ebtors' Bill was read a second time,
on the Motion of Mr. Grattan, and ordered to be committed.
Mr. lACKH A ItT brought up the Bill for amending the
Acts relating to the Settlement. of the Poor. Read a first
time, and ordered to be read a seen.t ttme.
On the motions Mr. nerttiv t: It, .the
Bullion, ordered on the 15th of February, were ordered to
be presented forthwith. T- -
Mr. MANNING brought pp the Miartes of Evidence
taken before the Committee on the London Dock Bill, which
were ordered to lie on the table.
On the question that the London Dock Bill be re-commit-
ted, a long and desultory conversation took place; in which
Sir Thomas Torino, Mr. Manning. Mr. W. Smith, Mr. J.
H. Brown, Mr. Rose, Mr. Joddrell, Sir W. Stirling, Mr.
ii. Thornton, Mr. Marryat, and Mr. A. Baring, partici-
pated; after which the Bell was ordered to be re-committed.
Ordered, oti the motion of Mr. DUN DAS, that the House,
on its rising, do adjourn to Monday se'nnight.
Mr. FOSTER obtained leave to bring m a Bill to amend
the Howth Harbour Act.
Ordered, on the Motion of Mr. ABERCROMBY, that

there be laid before the House si- Return of the Casualties of
the British Army, from the he of July, 1808, to the Ist of
January, 1810, distinguishing tie various casualties and the
different !planers; also a Return of the total number of Fo-
reigners in the pay of Great-Britain, from the Ist of Jan.
18Jti, to the Ist of Jau.lBlo.
FINANCE COMMITTEE.
Mr. BANK. ES presented the Fifth Report of the Com-
mittee on J'ublic Expenditure, respecting the Paymaster of
Marines, and Treasurer of the Ordnance. Ordered to lie on
the table, and to be printed.
Mr. LONG 'brought up the accounts of the Extraordinary
Expences of the Anny; and other Accounts, which were or-
:tiered to lie on the table. -
CAMPAIGN IN PORTUGAL AND SPAIN.
tt Mr. CANNING rose foe the purpose of giving
stake, that On an early day after the recess, he
should move for some additional papers, in order
to prepare fur that discussion respecting the cam.
paign in Portugal and Spain, which was subse-
quently to come. on. As the whole of the papers
which had already been ordered were not yet
printed, and in the hands of* Members, ho was not
in a -situation to State what papers precisely he
might find it necessary to call for. In that he
'must be regulated by, the opinion he might enter-
tain of the sufficiency or deficiency of those alrea.
dy ordered, to enable the House to come to a just
decision on this important subject. As he was,
upon his 106., and 'saw an Hon. Gee Ullman oppo.
site (Mr. Whitbread) in his place, he should take
that opportunity of putting a question to that
lion. Member, on a subject in which he felt eon.
siderable personal interest. That Hon. Member j
had made a motion, which he himself hid second.
ed, for the production of certain documents relat-
ing to the instructions sent out to Mr. Erskine.
The papers had been called fot: in that instance for
the purpose of ascertaining a point upon which
that Hon. Member and hiMself were at issue, the
question at issue between them being whether he
bad been guilty of asserting a falsehood to the
souse, on the subject of suth instructions. The
opera had been already above two months on the
Oble, and yet no proceeding whatever had been
founded upon them by that lion. Gentleman. It
—alight, undoubtedly, have arisen from the atten.
don demanded by the very important business
which had employed the House during that time,
that no notice had been taken of this slbjefst.
The qUestion he had to put was, whether the Hon.
Gentleman meant to bring forward any proposi.
iion founded on the documents, or was otherwise
'prepared to retract his'statement ?
Mr. WHITBREAD replied that ,the Right
Hon. Gentleman was perfectly right in the reason
he assigned for his not having turned his attention
to this subject earlier. The truth was, that ho
had not had time since the papers were produced
to read them. This, however, ho should certain.
ly do in the recess; and, after the holidays, would
be prepared, in case he should retain his present
impression, to submit-a specific motion upon the
subject to the House ; or, if he should find rea-
son to alter that impression, candidly to admit
that it was not borne out by the Papers.
Mr. CANNING observed, that the House I
must feel how anxious, kircumstanced• as he was,
he must naturally be, that this question should be
speedily decided.
, Mr. WHITBREAD admitted the propriety of
the Right Hod. Gentleman's conduct, in calling his
attention to this question, and felt himself bound
testate, that he ought himself to hate noticed it
before.
INQUEST OF MURDER ON JAMES PAEDGE.
I Lord OSSULSTON seeing 'the Right lion. the
'ceretary of State for the Home Depariment in
his place, wished to ask him a question upon a
subject highly interesting to the public. A Pro.
detention Ito found had been issued, and, as he
thought; very properly imised, °tiering a conside-
rable reward for the discovery of those who had
been guilty of shooting at persons during the late
disturbances in this metropolis. He had also ob.,
served, by the statements in the public lotirnalst
wet, on a Coronet's Inquest havini been held op
qt.( body of James Pledge, who died "in censor
listence of a wound received by a carbine bullet, 41
mitilict of Wilful Murder had been found against
ripe of the Life Guards. 'the cinestion he wished
to ask, therefore, was, whether it was lei the con.
temptation of the ttight Hon. Secretary, or of hit
Majesty's Government, to tako arly.itclie relative
to this business. As it appeared that the patron

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ascertaining thooilno;,:,, 4 all. events ativoisht.d.
to know what coupes AS Right 114.,SeassitstrY
proposed to adopt. ,;, c,,:.-- , -t, ; . • ,
Mr. Secretary HYDEkhad 'no besitakiipa, to
say, that lie neither had *lied, nor was it his iu.
tention to advise, his Majesty to offer any reward
for the discovery of the. person iskatteit to.,
.If
what the Noble lsord..oo 'stated was correct,, tltet
he was one of the sot who composed the rear
guard, he did not apprehend there would bellied!
difficulty in discovering the offender,; if offender
there was. Ile had felt it his duty to.have inqui.
ries made into the conduct of the soldiers towards
the populace, and the condtict of the populace to,
the soldiery. The result of these inquiries had
been, that there was not an instance lit the annali
of this country, where it had been found neces-
sary to call in the aid of the military, of so much,
forbearauce on the part of the soldiers. This was
the more exemplary, because they had encoun-
tered resistance, not, only 'by abusive language and
pelting, but by firing with actual shot. This was
a fact that could be proved by rho most respect-
able testimony, and that not, only during the pre..
vious days, but on the Monday when Sir Francis
Burdett was *conveyed to the Tower. It was his
duty to add, that no firing had taken place on Oa
part of the soldiery until they had been r—;oogat.,,.,
ty med at 5....... .....9-4,..t0i; Louses. It !Fab nbt liff
intention, therefore, to advise his Majesty to offer
any reward in this case; nor should he, unless i$
should appear from the inquiries 'Which were made}.
and to be made;, that such proceeding was called
for by the circumstances of the case.
Mr. WHITBREAD agreed ' with the Right
Han. Gentleman, that the conduct of the soldiers
:Maid been marked by great moderation. But .he
Would ask that Right Hun: Gentleman, whether
hey Standing as he did: in that House, as Ws Ma:.
jest is Secretary of State, could think himielf
jellified in abstaining from taking -any steps in a
case where a verdict of wilful murder had been
found by it Jury ? Whether his Majesty's-,:---
I'CHere the lion. Member was called to order by
- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,
who observed' that his Right Honourable Friend
having been asked a question, had in the expia-
nation he had given, dune nothing but what was
warranted by the usage of the Housot_nor trans.
{tressed the line usual in such cases. The answer
having been given, the matter could not be carried
further; and, tbough he* should have no. objec-
tion to any diticusidpo of the subject, be did not
think the Honourable Gentleman 'in order when
making a speech without any question being bo.
fore the House.] , . ;
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Mr. WHlTBREArdeclared it to be his in.
tention to conclude with a motion. [4 cry of
Chair, chair !J.
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The SPEAKER, expressing regret at being
obliged to interrupt. the Honourable Member,
stated the practice of the House to be against iL
lowing any discussion to take place upon the alibi,
ject of answers given Os questions, which it per.
misted Honourable Members the indulgence to
put. 10 matssir. foe tliseoseion .should arise out of
the answer, Abe, usual course was, for an ll* '
Member to give notice of a motion upon the r*
ject on a hearts day. . • I ,
Mr. WHITBREAD instantly rose, and nu,
serted, that it Wes his right to make the motioup
with which by mint to conclude, mid that be was
determined to exercise that right. The motion he
should make was, for a copy of the verdict of
wilful murder returned On'the inqueat held on the
body of Jaines • Pledgli: He *veiled himself of
his right in this instance; because the House was
at its rising to:adjourn over the holidays, and if
•he did not make kis motion now, he should have
•no opportunity of
.doing it till after the recess.
But here he must observe, that the doctrine laid
down by the Right,Honourable Gentleman was
the most extraordinary' he had ever beard uttered.
He would ask that Right Honourable Gentleman
whether he had ever known a case„ %Then a verdict
'of wilful murder was found, and the Government
did net feel it necesaae7 to take any stops to sift the
business ? littl he ever known of a -Magistrate,
'who, on such a verdict being returned, •would,
think it right to ;Wein from taking any steps, or
Instituting any proceeding respecting it until he
should ascertain the fact, whether a murder had
been toMmitted at all ? But the Right Honour.
able Gentleman-said, that, as it Would be easy to
find out the person,. he would lot advise any
immediate steps until be should bele, possession of
the result of the inquiries be was, making. Was
this languege to be endbred ? Was; this doetritio
to 'be advanced iu statists' Helios of Co:M1110ns ?
Would not the soldiery be better vindicated by
sending the case to a Jury than the could by the
speech of the Right Honeurabio gentleman ?
But the m'a'tter could not stop hervkl*;;Til4 feeling;
of the conntri would not allow it; , The roling of,
the soldiery would not suffer it:to:Atop km.
_lf
the soldiery were, to be vindlesi44 it should be
before a Jetty. It it should turn 'oat Oat the
dices hid not fired' tilt they , had been freqiintaty,
Bred Upon, then the' !indication end exculpatitio,
of the military would be most complete and AK.,
fed.' - Did the Right Honourable Gentleinin . .la;'' ,
to lay' that the general good cenduci of the si.ts-
diery *as a sufficient justification of the act of ibis'
itolivtdlial I Would it bo contended, that this
general good conduct of the troops would justify
an unprovoked soldier in shooting at tinotiending
persons—setipese the Right Honourable Gentle.
man hiniselfl or Any, Other Honourable Member
of thitgause,, who might be palling at the time ?
.
Ought not the peeple. to ho satisfied upon- this
head Is 'Should the; whole of the iishliery ho left
exponto thei hd n pitintio of this act by abstaining
to inqu after the'iparticular individual ? Ought
not.thed6ath of this man to be lokuired into t
OUght not' thii queition to be iettled by another
verdict Y 'For himself; he was perfectly satisfied
that it' should;. led Itedee'that, 'impression he had
felt hiieself bound to' insist *upon his right, when
driven to the 0044 of it. He should, therefor()
move that Otero, be. trig before' the House a copy
1 of the verdict if the ortioer:olugoest upon the
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would recollect that he hadoolr dohs *is dot yin
-sealiall-whch WS Panel ito :him the visit ant. prat tice •
of
.lbe Hesse, es eintilatoecasione. On tivelyth-
base creme(; he eisoulti feel •Itimielf booed its dullyito
take the, mow Course; thoegh, after ,whatllliol
passekit would biter arty .Honourable Member
to prep, his motion • epee. thee. House, aoteith. -
atiadintattell4tbdoinflon °tits established practicre.
t„, Mr. WHITBREAD observed, • that be had
PllkvPecrottied.his duty in insittieg upon what he
004410 ln be his rights. lirsides, he•hate pre.
leedetUfeebriegieg forward a motion williona'Any •
..aPticet'ia tho;clne which occurred list Berries,
Inwßiohtethil:ounatitraaesighypet;n:ong9trc'eaGweligßatti.evg:tePrimitil,
abnieseare (gbelfrable.fo'ClienrialiWard.nb:7).
himeilf (the Speaker); [nie looting hoes alluded
to took place on the occasion of Mn Dorsey hav-
ing made a charge of want of impartiality upon
the Speaker.]
Mr. CANNINQ felt himself-collet! soon, as
.the amtictri clad' by him on a former occasion had
beett,alludet to, to say a few word... That mo.
Lion had arisen oat et what had 'passed is a pre-
vious patt of the, evlining, when. * charge of par.
tiality bad, hems made against the Chair. His mo-
tion was; founded precisely on the ground, that
when ant* .a charge was made, the House was
booed tis..Atese to. a resolution declaratory of its
lifielaulltal IhntrOal.tiid been fulfilled,' bold
should separate. At the same time he was pre-
pared to admit, that the Honourable Geetidtian,
in bringing forward his motion had dent nothing
but exercise this right ; yet, whateveri he might be
,disposed to do at another time, lie was resolved
to vote 'sabot the motion, on this einglegromed,
that the Hoop; bad beim taken by surprise. • . .
Mr. WHITBREAD did not think be 1•44
bound to serrate from making.billuetioo; inset'.
sequence of oft thing that might bars paied.on
a foriner motion, nor.did: he think tot-apelosey
necessary fur having done what he claimed as his
right. • , .
Mr, W. SMITH was perfectly satisfied, both
from his own general observations and:the repeat
of others, that the soldiers had, in general, con.
ducted themselves in a most exemplary 'emeoli ;
yet, when &Coroner's Inquest had fottmi'n var.
diet of Wilful .Allectler against any. et: them, be
did not think it sufsellsit . for the Se aretary et
State to say shatherould make in lluluirY• Ill'
Konourable Prised (Mr. Whitbread) bat' dated
.clearly, .andi at appraised .to hint, Most wise.
iewei•obly, that the general goad conduct of the
r soldiery was no ;wagon why, if a wilful. mitider
was committed by -one of them, it should nol'he
enquired into. ,If 10,000 soldiers had conducted
themselves in the most exemplary manner and
one committedAmilful murder, that man shooltl
not be etteuseLen Reernsat of the good eeethict
of. theothers. :As to the enquiry by the Sem.
tary.ot „State' .Igo, wished to ~kaskw..*ltetkor he,
As a 'amities oc the Peace, ezmelood.*ltiseseet be .
oath ? H ~e ,dill_ akot mean to OM any oplition who.
liter,tod upooweroper Syr there Aaight• be
,les,.. , te.bades Moe. Mt he emeiroledflor was,
4.1" . 61falthet: et well -talltditioktellielllting
s . , tieffeell than Rearely-lostititeateipoi-
ntsp~spreop theroesesstr et .Stelog- :I all ,i
..uads
r.3ayiNgt„orliv that thernocialiM
Ablat, ta had 4.6a-piniedoritsboo4, by the tGeeths-
pee On the • othekaide. s When he,.hisil • table of
an enquiry, be -meant that there really Mad/teen
an •effteiestt enquiry, sad that every pities 'bid
been taken to enquire whether the populate er
the troops had' heels- the first assailants. ' Upon
what transpire at Ai,. enquiry, it did appear
;to Government that there was no *make for
,limning such prockamattun ss the Hue. Gentleman
I would advise. If there was tio other reason fur
L opposing the motlonf he should.oppose it from
the circunutaoce of its having been brought for.
ward without the 'previous notice which was Gua-
r ternary in that House.
Lord OSSULST,OIsI said, that he was very
ready to allqw that the soldiers bad in general
conducted themselves.; in the most exemplary mea-
ner. .
• Alderman COMBE stated, that .the:lffmit-
, trates in the City of Londou were extaemelytrilt*
gent in their inquiries with mespecti!ok the
lost in the City ; but it was
lowances must be made for the
vocation'd the moment, -
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said, that altheugh the. Ho.
Whitbread) -conceited himself
right to. bring forwerti this mr
he might have. reCOljeCi4o Ulk.
motions of ' which. Apace... had
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