The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-06-24 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

In reply S. th► remarks which had been mad.• on the
publication of the Statutes, the Hon. and Leashed
Member stated it to base been done in compliance
with the unanimous opinion of the Committee; but
of the marginal nowt he declared, and he was con-
vinced that these who knew him would believe his
declaration, that he was totally ignorant till he had
heard them mentioned that night by the Hight lion.
Gentleman. The nest point of the Hight Ilon.Gen.
tleman's speech to which be should advert, was that
in which be charger! the Committee with consi.
suing to set when, according to the forms and usage
of Parliament, their labours ought to heti ceased.
Se far was it from being the case, that the powers of
the Committee necessarily terminated with the See.
slots of Parliament, that he would give up his de-
freest end plead guilty to the rharge of the Hight
llonograble Gentleman, if he did not make it ap-
pear that the course purled by the Education Com-
mittee on that occasion was precisely that which was
adopted at the termination of every Session of Par-
liament, whether by dissolution or by prorogation.
The question could not admit of a doubt. Take the
Hon. Gent.'s plan—adopt his new law of Parliament
—let the close of each Session pot a atop to the com-
pletion of that etarniteation in which Committees of'
that (louse have been engaged, and the result would
be, that not one tittle of that information which
the House required could by possibility be pre.
pored, omit at length such a lIMI of papers would
be thrown upon its consideration as actually to
overwhelm them. Ile nest proceeded to the charge
of his having written within the present Session •
letter to the parochial Clergy. It was not • letter
written under inadvertence ; the object was to ob-
tain the most mingle detail of the state of education
throughout the while island. Ile had given the pa-
rochial working Clergy, whose conduct through
the whole of the enquiry was above his praise,
though he still begged of them to accept it, as to the
nagibee of fends of the endowed schools, and he was
*maim to dram from the same source the need-
ed information relative to the enendevo-cd schools.
He thought be had framed that letter in such a man.
wee as to preclude the possibility of misipprehen-
lien. The terms of it were, " If you can conve-
niently inform me ;" and sorely it was clear to the
meet ordinary apprehension that this language was
used in his indiehleal capacity, and not in his of
character of Chairman of the Committee. Much less
could it have been misunderstood when compared
with the circular of the former year, for the terms
of the two were widely different. The temper
of that circular was to this elect—" Vow are
required to retu►n answers to these questions."—
Bet it was said, that clergymen were not obliged to
mod answers to these questions, although, if same.
Boned, there were obliged to attend the Committee.
Ile was aware of Ibis, and it was to save them the
trouble of personal attendance, that he sent the cir-
cular. The lion. and Learned Gentleman then pro.
needed to state, that no political use had been made
of the Minster of Evidence taken before the Corn.
mittee. So guarded had be been en this point, that
in the case of St. Bee's school, he bed denied three per-
sons who were likely to make such a use of it access
either to the minutes or to his own privets notes,
•lthoogh he had known repeated instances in which
hotel of evidence had been Oen to private persons.
lie had not intentionally omitted to answer any oea
I count of the charge; but if he had done so throegh
accident, audit the omission were pointed out to him,
he should oat fail to take the first opportunity of
vind!citing himself.—plear, hear ! from Mc Opp°.

affirm.]
A MEMBER of the Committee (chose earns we
could not learn) said, that in the course of the in-
vestigation before the Committee, he had narrowly
observed the conduct of the Chairman, end bad uni-
formly found it correct, polite, and proper.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD complained that the
Hon. and Learned Gentlemen had made what was
perhaps intended to be an ezeelpation of himself the
opsoltere of invective against his Right lien. Friend
(Mr. Peel). As to the complaiut of the lion. and
Learned Gentleman, that he was dot prepared for
such a charge, it ales only necessity to say, that if
his Right Hon. Friend was disposed, as every lion.
Member had a 601, to remark on the mindere of
the Committee, be was not bound to give notice of
his intention to every Member of that Committee.—
He hoped he should not be 'weaved of want of can.
door. in going en with his remarks in the absence of
the lion. and Lossinl Gentleman (Mr. Broogliem
had left the Howse). The lion. Member proceeded
at considerable length in support of the statements
made by Mr. Peel, and in reply to the esplanatioos
offered by Mr. Briseghaon.
Mr. F. DOUGLAS, es a Member of the Com-
mitten of Education, bore testimony to the truth •Ini
accuracy of what his Hen. and Learned Friend had
stated. Ile would say of his Ilan. and Learned
Friend, that be was • most moderate, a most active,
a most temperate, and a most impartial Chairman.
Lord CASTLEREAGH would advert bet very
shortly to the conduct of the lion. and Learned
Gentleman with respect to this question. The Hon.
and Learned Gentleman bad represeeted Ministers
as using their omelet efforts to screen offences and
to beset. He load attempted to carer Parlia-
ment with the odium of conniving at peculation, be-
cease it had supposed charities to be chargeable only
with tite imperfections which marked the management
of al'. property. Yet, now it appeared that the Report
of the Commissionera had Willed all the impede-
tions.of the lion.and Learned Gent.—[!leer, /sear !]
With respect to a particular part 011, n‘asely,
with respect to the went of the Coen, he teeny
believed that the money required fleg the ob-
jowls proposed, would be, in point of economy, well
hid out, in older to obtain • security that charities
were properly conducted. Ile wished to prevent the
1 indulgence of such a &lesiva milieu as that the 1
money used by Hsi, enquiry would go to per the
espenceo of the Commiosion. The enqeiry might W
espected to continue for nine or ten )ears, bet the
',suit would h. a confidence that charities were pro-
perly managed. The whole of the Commission was
rattier in aid of the Court of Chancery. With
respect to the c hole of this Bill, be abode by the
former recommendation of the Honourable and Learn-
ed Gentleman, and so lie hoped, would the linos,.
Mr. PEEL rose, amid cries of " spoke, sp.ilse,"
anti said, that as he rests to vindicate himself, he
tilted for the it.dalgcnce et' the House. The MM.
Ir

POLICE.

and loused Goodman had given notice of a motion
which be had waisted..
Mr. JOHN SMITH rose to order. q ornon4u..-0.1 Wednesday a bey. named Cepeeer. wee
Mr. BROUGHAM esplained, as to hie intention :rug:dm:at rt°,.l.l•llllag ig"brj. —l4""lslieriejlit7 toot
of couclodiwg with • motion. lie had not made that
tic par with Ler brother, raps Whim, Inreeee siJees:sWiff• I:eltb.lan
motiou. , die or toddenit *eon: upon bee, struck her a violist
1.4 CASTLEREAGH 'lmpaled, that the ~.d.: blow so zreci.......; jerichx......d.... her,Hable . 11" r I.': reili
glii:
log of the Bill • third time would remove the dill. bi. light Wert swag the neekt,ce, where it eatssete sot besotted.
culls as to she point of order. I lie tried se ewer p slilppiag Is mad est of a stand ..f beck-
eelTbs SPEAKER stated his reasons for not having ; ~,,,,,e. ii., warns tiliwigth bears h Tredebaca's...d sfad, "40..0ur.1"7.'..1 :bete-
matter called to order, and put the qoestion that the , diate puaisloweat pointed oat Ike spot ohne be bad 'brow%
the necklace. and where is was farad. lbe Primer had berm
Bill be read a third time. I a chhase)-sw rep, but rag away from his ,ester.—Fatly now.
The question was agreed to, sod the Bill was read mow,
141,:o.thecSaatiiir.rieras faultless commmoihetredp,mforperlsterry
of Mr.
imksevarterearo,,andec
a third time.
Mr. BROUGHAM brought up a clause to ',able
the Commissioners tort elect Riven to the lineations I Marron sainsex.—A few minutes Wore Mee o'clock MI
may have been !""^daY •"'"`K. she INigiami""Tl of reffP•ocloace
of founders where their instructions
Gray's Ina lase, wa. throw., moue stale et alarm tram the cries
deficient. et murder, from the lieele • f P. Illorpby, a labourer residing ia
Mr. PEEL replied to the charges brought against shat street. T. Eiooisi. a neighbour. wowed is to a.certata
him. themes,. ahem Murphy. who bad M. wife swim him is Me
M r. BROUGHAM
retrained. wrong', and whom he appeuted lo be strangling, kit bey. and
neighs( • ease liege. made teveral oat,' al l'its•em, nod hamlet(
Mr. PEEL read an retract from the Statutes of many serer, woluds in his side cad thighs; but ,be lade be.og
Eton College, from which be inferred that the Fri. ViuldmP:rimeittdo;dprrs:lasseitialtZ of sirotrelikbeeZhamiTall.---
lows were bound not to priul them for the perusal a bite, and Morph, drew tae Wads Wesel his wad, ad acsirly
strangers. cat or Iwo at Vi 011461.5 finer.. odors remiss is, be Wall
Mr. BROUGHAM was still quite at issue with wiz"' g
b""lit Is this site, a"d "oily cnialuil"4l*
the Right lion. Grudges's. Mr. lipid* was a Fel.
low of King's College, Cembridge, and not, es be
had represented him to be, a Fellow of Eton.
Mr. WILBERFORCE chimed the privilege,
which he had always ranched during the 43 years
which be had been a Member of that How of es.
serving his opinions with the utmost frechas sad
sincerity. lie must say there was nothing which sp.
;rested to him to have justified the Right ilessourable
Gentleman, in not giving the House the previous Iwo.
, touristic', which woes in his power, upon this subject.
But he must be allowed to state, that no man in the
world was less capable of coedecting en esaminailen
with severity than his Hen. Friend, Mr. ilshington,
oho hail been upon that Committee. Ile would co..
refs that his Learned sod Honourable Friend, Mr.
Brougham, might conduct it with a certain degree of
professional, mod, if he aright be allowed the word,
inquisitorial severity ; but he was surprised that the
IRight lion.Gent.sheeld have been so blind as not to
see the incalculable benefits which bed been effected
by this mode of investigation ; indeed, if it had been
lany ether person who bad shown such fatuity of iii-
-1 tellect, he should have said, that the man was totally
blind to the admirable administration of justice iu
t
1 this country. Ile knew something of the abuses
I which esi%ted in Public Charities, from en attempt
which be had once made to check their Ist
I when be first brought in his Bill for the Registration
(of Charities, be received letters from all ports of the
country, containing proofs of the 'salience of such
abuses as the House could not possibly be Caere of.
A friend of his own, by taking a h lit from a grave
stone In a country church-yard, had beets led to pro-
secute his enquiries till his bad recur/nod IG,OOOI. or
18,0001. per songs, which wets now applied to
their original purposes.
Me. ~MYTH.—As a Member of the Rdecation
Committee oppoiated in lsl6, felt an online, desire
to lend his *id to •the investigation of the subject;
and he could assure the House sit% the utmost sin-
cerity, notwithstanding the Insinealions which had
been thrown net by an lion. Member, that be had
entered the COSSeilite•SPith °prejudices on his mind,
or political bias. It was • duty incumbent upon
hies to contradict these foul aspersiow, aid to
. that whenever it was memory to ea-
' press his 01,11 sentiments either in or out of the
Howe, he never should be afraid to stow them.—
(lad he bees present on the occasion of the gamins.
lima of Dr. Wood before the Committee, he should
revtainly base objected la the goettlana put to that
Learned Geritleman ; the imputations contained in
them were webecoming the 'iteration of Dr. Wood,
cud to his own knowledge were unfounded. 'He bad
the honour of being acqeitiuted with that Gentleman,
and he knew him to be a character most distinguish.
ed for his respectability, his honour, his talents, sad
his learning.
Mr. JOHN SMITH could not help espressing his
regret tls.t the Right lion. Gentleman opposite (Mr.
I Peel) had this night thought proper to make the most
011warrantable attacks against • man who had done
more in the support of the cause of truth and jos-
tire than almost any other individual. Ile hoped the
!Right Most. Gentleman would do as wiser ; at least,
he (Mr. Johu Smith) knew that he never would be
I able to du mule their tis' most distinguished Gentle-
-1111111.
The clause was then brought up, and, having been
read, was added by way of tide, to the Bill.
Mr. BROUGHAM then brought up a clause,
exempting the Commissioners from making a Report
to either Hesse of Parliament, that drawn up for the
King in Council being deemed sufficient. —This clause
was agreed to.
Mr. BROUGHAM west proposed an amendment
to the body of the 818, to lake away the esception in
the Bill to visited Charities.
Sir W. SCOTT objected to the amendment, prin-
cipally on the ground that visitors would be reduced
trs mere nominal officers.
Mr. SCARLET(' confessed that he saw none of
those evil mewl which had been so strongly
enforced by the last speaker. lie really saw every
reason to support the amendment.
!sir. BATHURST opprosed the amendment.
Mr. ELLICE strenecessly supported the amend-
ment.
The House then divided—
For the mortal weir& of Me Rill V; I Far the A mentinfult - ..
Sinjorit) al.
wAys A Nll hi TA N ti.
On the motion that the House resolve itself into •
Committer of Wars and Means,
Mr. CA lA' ERT obj•einsl In going on with boil.
nets at Chit tate hour (too u'cln, k in the nint • g.)
Mr. ilurcii 1 NsoN repealed the ohj..rtinn, nod
*mots inert Initticulariv of the late lanes at a Ilich
fresh business was brought forward on some late
occasion'.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
mid this arose from ass. airlable socunistsoces.
The House then Inspired itself into the Committee,
ends Resolution was passed for grant log 12,000.000,.
of a Loan Out of the `linking Food for the amiu of
The year.
The other 0 der.' of the Dry were dis:losc.! cf,
and the iluortjouind iiiThre.: o'Clerk.

NOTLININTII IN TOR SPOITINO WORLD. Tlits
match between Sanaa sad Sprits' Is off, in cense.
gnome of the latter havirig refesed to fight "coed
se the day that Donnelly and Omer contend; bet
Spring offered to fight on the day provisos, at II
o'clock In the mnroing of the 21st of J sly, or ea that
day feetnight afterwards. The Black wept with grief
at ibis Wesel, and mentally exclaimed, " ()Attie'.
occupation gone." To relieve his mind, end that
he might be once more employed In active service. he
vras matched last night et this Castle Tower n, Belcher's,
lageinst the Giant, Beres, for 501. aside, to fight allot
Donnelly.—Erna betting.
RANDALL AND SCROCIOI3II.—The latter little
dreadnought hero, who Ma [sag fancied having a
taste of Randall's qualify, were also matched for 100
Ones, aside. The prime Irish boy was about to
commence publican, bet he was too polite not to eco
coinntodide the wishes of *regains • mad the follow.
ing articles were immediately agreed to :—" Castle
Teem, June 22, ISl9.—John Randall aid Johm
Serene's agree to fight in a 24. feet ring for 100
guineas aside. The fight to take place on the 31st
of August. Ten pleats on each side are this day
deposited in the bands of 1. Belcher. The remain.
ing 90 guises. aside to be made good at the above
piece es the 19th of July end 3.1 of August, ita
mediae, or the deposit to be forfeited. To be a fair
mud op fight. Half minute time. The 'tote of
fighting to be left to Mr. Jarksoo ; the Umpires to
he chosen on the posed by each party ; and the
men to be in the ring by woe o'clock on the day
above named."—Tbe odds instantly offered were t
to I on Raodell.

Tuesday • poor labourer, In alerts 'tag a !udder
*lib a hod of mortar, at • ',eddies la the lioroeferry—
read, fell from the height of two stories, and kid his
IWO sod arm broken._

bosoms DeAte.--Meaday a flPf•••11 111 young
Lady, walking slung Chapel-street. Edgeware.road,
oppowite the Pomfret Arms, fell backwards, and ea•
pired.
A few days ego, a bee.hire belonging to Mr.
Gregg. Cooper, d icereby.grange, neer York, was
accidentally oterterned by one of the eervant•asen.
Ue I iseeif luckily escaped danger : hot the eoragerl.
Monts appeared determined to revenge t►emselsee
an any living o►ject that came ire their way. Part et
them consequently flew open a pointer dog, end the
rest epee a terkepcoek, both of which were neer the
hire. Ibe former (being chained np and soak', to
escape) was so dreedfelly stoat, that be died in sbr
t.o hears afterwards, appereetly In a stale of lII4Id.
noes. Tu. terkey-cock, however, survived till the
following morning, and time died after considerable
suffering.

BIRTHi.
Mr.. Nevins. Ware irk-4eare. of a daughter.
On the 19th len. at the Wort, Boa-hill, Sane', Mn. Ws.
Skilliagtaa. 'fa ann.

MARRIED.

Oa the !Ist ia.l. M I. Jaars's Chorea. Andrew Ilunitica,
J.j;,y of Ike Navy Pay-ofire, in Miw !damn. of Pareadi
Os gip loth imt. al (4er...irk. Mr. Hobert N Vow'. of Rob-
fire wise serebaa to Llizabeih, daughter of Xlis. Richard
titari e,
eg, of Grease