The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-05-31 00:00:00

repeatedly postponed. but which lie was
postpone longer ; and if the rumour he had
.... was true, he felt it his duty to bring it forward
absence of the-Learned Lord.
ti
LORD ADVOCATE briefly answered the goes-
,. ut was not diatinctly beard in the gallery.
• Petition was ordered to lie on the table.
presented a Petition from Diu, end from
&minds in the County of Norfolk, en the
,Agricultural Distress.—Ordered to be printed.
• Nit. PINSSNT.
LETHIIRD.UR presented a Petition from Mr.
insert', praying for the appointment of a Com-
inquire into the comparative value of all Bri-
interests, with a view of ascertaining to what de-
sof attention each was entitled. The lion. Baronet
considered the Petitioner had a right to have his
'don laid on the table of the House, end as lie made
Agrienitnral interest the basis of all the other in-
- 1 source from which all must be enriched—
which every thing must tern, lie thought
4 sound and wished it to be fairly discussed.
therefore that the Petitioner would have an
ity afforded to him of communicating the infor-
iich be described himself to possess to a Cons-
that Hons..
. DB CRESPIGNY spoke in favour of enter-
the Petition.
Serjeant ONSLOW said Mr. Pinsent's ideas
• new. They were similar to those on which
e had acted, and which had led to his ruin.
,ttermined that nothinl should he consumed in
. what could be produced from her soil. The
, proposing that a Committee should be appointed
,sire into the comparative state of all British in-
proposed to institute an endless inquiry.
'IL ME should not oppose the bringing up ef the
-* wished the principles which it contained
_med. If that system which Mr. Pinata
recommended were adopted, it would put an end
foreign commerce. It had been truly de-
resemble the plan of Bonaparte, and would
made us to grow sugar and make wine in
instead of producing those articles which bet-
our soil and our habits, and which might be
'ally exchanged for other commodities the
Jther countries. He wished the subject to
liscassed, that it might be fully understood, and the
-lity of the scheme opposed.
'(AXWELL wished to afford every facility to
'lad information to communicate, and there-
the Petition to be received.
Ilion was read and ordered to be printed.
PUTITION PROM PERTII.
TISAY presented a Petition from the Lord
eiliwick and Council of the Royal Burgh of
ing the attention of the House to certain cit.-
, connected with the revenues of that Burgh.
IRENFELL offered a few remarks on the pro-
lnsion of the Bank Charter. The consent
I were to give to more than six partners bo-
ded with one banking firm out of London, he
I of little value, as when conceded, but few
likely to avail themselves of it. On inquiry
that the number of Country Banks in England
was 552, and the number of partners con-
.n them amounted to 1613. From this state-
House would see that the average number was
leers to each bank.
lition was ordered to he printed.
NIIIAN presented a Petition from the parish
ton, in the county of Derby. against the Poor
BBL—Ordered to be printed.
-IARVEY presented a Petition of the same
respectably signed by the Vicar, Church-
and Inliab,itants of the pariah of Westham, in
• of Essex.—Ordered to be printed.
SAI.T TAX.
(RIGHT presented a Petition from certain
and others in the neighbourhood of Bristol,
or a total repeal of the Duty on Salt. The
entleman sliewed that the 2s. proposed to be left
operate severely on the fisheries. They would
• not less than ILO,OOOI. annually, and would
suffer an interest so important as that of the
ibe thus taxed. The colonies now so much
would also suffer from the duty in question, I
hi cause an additional six shillings to be
every barrel of fish sent out, the cost price
was at present 40s.
ENFEILL expressed a hope that this subject
•ive the serious consideration of his Majesty's
d.—The Petition was ordered to lie on the

ion was presented from the Occupiers of land
astern part of Sussex, romplaining:of Agricul-
istress.--t:rdered to be prj Med.
WE LS II J VDU I' TU RE.
INES moved for leave to bring in a Bill to en-
extend the powers of Judges at the Courts of
Wal^s, and to amend the laws relative to the
would not now go into the subject. The Bill
a with a vie..v of correcting the evils complain-
ie report of the Committers which hail been
re the (louse. He proposed to bring in the
it might he read a first and second time and be
td then stand over till next Session, that the
ight receive the fullest consideration.
ItHAM did not oppose the bringing in of this
bought it right to remark on the conduct of
Gentleman opposite, who had counted the
on a former occasion, to get rid of a plan
'marl by another lion. Member, in order to
for his own.
:retary PEEL begged to remind the Hon. Mem-
on the occasion allnded to, a difference bad
a motion niaile hy the lion. Member for Bur-
tijourning the debate to that day fortnight,
ion seas opposed. If the House had divided. I
must have been an adjournment; and it was
de of things t hat the attention of the Speaker
called to the state of the House.
INMAN said, that the question on which a
had arisen, was not as to adjourning the de-
any particular day. for the Hon. Member for
had not minified himself to proposing that day
, but haul offered to name any other day that
tter snit the convenience of the House. The
was to the appointment of a Con iiii ittee to
resolutions of his lion. Friend and the whole
right be referred. The present bill supplied a
so cure trivial evils, but did not meet any of the
jectirme which his! been urged against the pre•
!In of Welsh Judicature. He thought it would
that the subject should go off altogether till
don than that such a measure should be adopted.
EY-GENERAL remarked, the Hon.
ned Gentleman had said this Bill only correct-
! errors, but did not meet the main objections
,gainst the present system. lie (Mr. Denman)
cruse him when he said it appeared to him that
ion would have been as well reserved till the
been printed and was open to his (Mr. Den-
inspection. This Bill went to correct the evils
fined of, though not to alter the whole system of
ludicature. It was proposed that the Bill, when
should stand over till next Session, when the
lember for Pembroke might, if he pleased, bring
his resolutions again, the question being kept
lean time. precisely as it stood at present.
lENMAN said, he had collected the contents of
froni what had been stated by the Hon. I.:cutic-
le. Jones).
PONES remarked, hie memory must have failed
he had never stated what his Bill would cootain.

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He wee not conscious that he had acted improperly by
the House, or been deficient in courtesy to any one.
After a few words from Mr. BRNMAN and Mr.
BROUGHAM. leave was given to bring in the Bill.
ENROLMENT or A SMCITIES.
The ATTORN EY•G EN ERA L obtained ley* to bring
in a Bill to explain the Act of the s3d of the late King
respecting the Enrolment of Memorials for Oriole of
Annuities.

ROYAL BURGHS ACCOUNT BILL.
After a abort oonversation between the LORD Atwo-
CATE of SCOTLAND and Lord A. HAMILTON, the further
consideration of the Report of the Royal Burghs Ac-
counts Bill, Was postponed till Monday the 17th June.
NATAL AND MILITARY PENSIONS.
Sir C. LONG moved that the consideration of the Re-,
port of the Committee on the Plan for paying the Naval
and Military Pensions, should be postponed till to-
morrow.
Mr. HUME moved that it should be postponed till
Monday.
Mr. 13ROUGI:A31 thought it ought to be postponed
till Monday.
Sir C. LONG considered there had been an under-
standing in the House, that the Iteport should be taken
to-morrow, and such being the known intention of Minis-
ters, it would be taking a most unusual course to put it
ar. Ile hoped it would be allowed to stand for to-mor-
row. His Right Hon. Friend, should postponement be
desirable, would. he was confident, yield to the willies
of the lion. Gentlemen opposite.
After a few word, from 31r. P. ORENFELL, Sir J.Now-
PORT, Mr. HICARNO, and Mr. tleouiimsata Mr. Mcmr
consented to withdraw his motion, and the Throw 'was
ordered to be brought up to-morrow.
The Scottish Entail's Rill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed tomorrow.
The Sherif!. Depute's Bill went through a Committee,
the Report of which was ordered to be received to-
morrow.
Mr. JONES brought in a Bill to enlarge and extend
the powers of the lVelsli Judges. Read a first. and or-
dered to be read a second time on Thursday next, sod
the Sill to be printed.—Adjourned.

(For Proceedings in the Lords see last page.)

NAI-IGATIOdV BILL

" Unirersal peare and goad-rill would render lairs un-
neecL4a rg for the regulafica al bade.•'
•• (I the benevolent principle bore universal and un-
!inflict' kwa at. all regard to partial or particular interests
+could merge hi a comprehensive sense of the interests of
the whole."—A liclll ACT FROU A INCENT PAIPIO.III.
bIR M. RIDLEY. HART.
Member of Parliament for the ancient Sra Port of Neve-
caalle-upon- Tyne, and one of the Committee on Foreign

Trade.
SlR—Your sitnation of representative of Newcastle,
and one of the committee on foreign trade, must plead
my excuse for selecting you as • proper person to ad-
dress, on the subject of the proposed relaxation of our
navigation laws. This is no party question; the dis-
tinction of Whig or Tory is nothing in its discussion,
and I am convinced that all it wants is to be under-
stood : for certain I am, that if the wealthy and un-
questionably well-intentioned representatives of the
great maritime districts were aware of the magnitude of
the interest, in the destruction of which they are about
to engage, they would pause as they would on the
brink of a precipice, before they gave is to such a 'mea-
sure.
It certainly is not one of the least mortifying features
of this case. that ,the ahi tiling interesj is gusidered
ignoronflri inmalital of changes, whicE, it tiNssertea,
Will ultimata be of no detriment to then), , and so
strong iy nag this mistaken notion got possesugh of the
minds of our representatives, that I Sits afraid nothing
so feeble an advocate as myself can urge, will hare any
effect.
But whilst every theoretic knave or fool shall clamour
for his abstract notions of what be considers right, the
proprietors of the commercial marine of England may
surely be allowed to expostulate upon measures which
will practically effect their destruction.
It is under these considerations that I am again in-
duced to address you.
The result of the proposed change or abrogation of
our maritime law, will be slowly, but certainly, to
transfer the principal portion of the foreign carrying
trade into the hands of foreign states, who arc anxiously
grasping at what their sagacity has demonstrated to be
the main cause of the power of this icingdotn.
This must be obvious, when it is known that the al-
teration proposed will permit the Dutch or Americana,
when they are investing a cargo in India for the Euro-
pean market, to consider the state. of the British de.
mend for such commodities, as much as their own, as
they can without even the farce of a re-shipment, pour
their cargoes into the London or Liverpool markets,
with nearly the same facility as the British merchant;
and that tne soul of co:amerce, as Mr. Robinson calls it,
will avail itself of such an opportunity to supply this
great consuming. couniry, is as clear on the one band,
as the destruction of our maritime power by such a
concession is on the other.
The above argument is equally applicable to invest-
ments, and returns, from every other port or place in the
universe, and by every other nation. For instance, let
the map of Europe demonstrate how admirably and in-
termediately Denmark, Sweden, Holland, and the !lapse
Towns are situated for carrying on the trade of Russia
with this country. Even in time of peace, it will be well
worth their while, supposing they only obtain a rat:, of
freight equal to British ships; the absence of taxation
in a greater or less degree in their respective countries,
will threefold more than repay them for the trilling de-
tentiOn occasioned by the farcical call at their respective
ports to ;cite the goods a species of nationality.
Dow admirably is Copenhagen adapted to the use of
the subjects of his Danish Majesty for such a purpose !-
They must brush the walls of that capital as thei sail
from Petersburg to London. Bergen or Drontheiin is
equally convenient to the enterprising subjects of the 18-
dt-fatigable Charles John, for the Archangel trade. The
retnetubranee of their former power and greatness will
incite the tianseaties to embrace with aridity and de-
light the oppwtenity afforded them of participating in
the supply (through the medium of their vessels) of the
incident' consuming Carthare,—of a country, which,
from a variety cf causes, co:lemurs as it lisAV be as- '
ted, of the bulky articles us transit,adj wood, cotton,
beii.p, tallow, &c. as all the rest of the world put toge-
ther. That these articles, in point of intrinsic value,
are not the must important, 1 admit; but, in a maritime
point of siew, they are invaluable, front the quantity of
tonnage they employ, and from the number of seamen
they create. The calculating Dutchman knows well
their value; be can expatiate upon the expedition of Isis
ancestors up the Thames and Medway ; lie boasts of his
De Ruyters and 'from!, and truly anticipates in these
ahrouations, the harbingers of humiliation to his com-
mercial rival.
Nor is America behind him in calculation:—an em-
pire created, perhaps by the folly of one ministry, is to
be accelerated in its race of progression by the folly of
another; and as there are no feuds so hostile or invete-
rate as national or family ones, so, probably, the
united hostility of all Europe put together does not
equal that of this rising country towards us.—a country
whose capability of increase seems unlimited, and
which, in little lucre than the period of half the or..
dinary life of man, has attained means of contending
with us, on what has heretofore been considered our pe-
culiar element, hardly to be credited.

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