The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-23 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Cassittee en the Publicans' Bill was pardlloaed to Wed-
anday nest.
Mr. JIM YLL, as AttorrrepCieueral le his Rns
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the Prince Rqteid, tiered ter breve to Irdia&la a :
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die Priem lemma W plait Leases et certahrAmarki
at Lambeth, Be —Leave-givea, when die Hill was illiwanight lab
dad a Ord time, and ordered to be rend a emend dm* Is-
sorrow.

iiIIARTON moved for an Account of the Bow iaM oat
of the Civil Idol, not arising out of the Grinner , expenereeheite•
able span that Faad.—Agreed te, and the Papers were after-
wardsUoeght op. and ordered to lie on the table.
The Loan Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be gear
mined to-inorrow,_

?re Lottery Bin was read a swag time, and orieted to be
committed to-marrow.

TM starcL Bill -I;ia ordered to be committed so Monday

next.
The House resolved itself into a Committee on the several
Salt Acts.—Report to-morrow.
lie. COURTENAY brought up the Reports of Committees
on the Lead-tax Deed Bill, the Scotch Excise, the Bermuda
Trade, Militia Subalterns' and Adjutants' Bab, which were
reed nd agreed to, and the Bills severally ordered to be read a
third time to-morrow.
Earl Moira's Estate Bill was read a second time, and ordered
to a Select Committee.
The House went into a Committee on the Poor Debtor' Bill,
on the Motion of Mr. WORTLEY.—Report to-morrow.
The Distillery Amendment Bill was ordered to be committed
on Wednesday next.
General GASColGNltpostlwned the Committee on the Dub-
lin Light-house Acts till to-morrow.
Lorli A. Hamilton was ordered to be added to the Committee
on the Frame.Workers' Petitions.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD presented a Petition from certain Pro.
testants of the County of Down, which went to prove an hn-
portant fait, namely, that the Catholici commercial property of
Ireland, was by far the termer proportion of tbr commercial
property of that part of the kingdom. The Petitiuu was brought
up, read, and ordered to lie on the table.
- The House resolved into Committees no the West India Trade
Acts, Copper Acts, &c.—Report to-morrow.
Lord FOLKF.STONE gave notice, that on the 90tH inst, be
should submit some Resolution to the House respecting 4 apt.4in
Klag's case.
MIL PALMER.
Colonel PALMEII. observed, that his Father's
claims had been so often discussed, that he should
say nothing upon the merits of the case, but only
explain his reasons for renewing the Bill which they
had heretofore supported. After the former fail- I
ure, from the dissent of the other House, Mr. Pal-
mer's claim was referred by an Address otite House
to a decision in a Court of Law ; nor could he. be
blamed for wantonly troubling the House in seeking ,
an impracticable issue, as it was the conviction of his I
Counsel that the cause might have been tried upon its I
merits, had it been allowed. In the last Session an
Address was presented to the Regent by the House,
praying his Royal Highness to advance the arrears
due to Mr. Palmer; to which his Royal Highness
was graciously pleased to answer, that he should be
ready to comply with the wishes of the House when
Parliament should provide' the means. The only
means were the present Bill, which be would shortly
explain. By Mr. P.'s original agreement he waa tie
'have 2j per cent. on the increase of the Post-office,
arising from his plan; and had the claim been tried
by law, it was the opinion of the Chief Justice of
the Court to which it was referred; and also of an-
other Judge, lately a Member of this House, that
Mr. P. was entitled to the benefit of the ()sties!
''agreement. 'When the evidence on which these grave
opinions were founded, was referred to a Committee
of the House of Commons, they also declared the
original claim to be substantiated ; but, under all
circumstances, recommended Mr. P. to be paid his
salary and per metage according to a subsequent ap-
pointment.
When this Report was discussed in the
House, an amendment was moved, by deducting the
salary, and giving Mr. Palmer his per centage only,
which amendment he conceded to. On presenting
the account of arrears from the Post-office, amount-
ing to 69,0001. it was referred by certain Members to
a Committee, who reduced the 69,0001. to 54,0001.
and it was upon this reduced scale that the Bill was
framed ; and when it was considered, that instead of
two and a half per emit. as was originally agreed,
Mr. Palmer's profit was immediately reduced below
one per cent. and that for the remainder of 'Ms life,
he would receive but the hundredth part of that an-
nual revenue, which (to quote the words of the Com-
missioners of Public Enquiry) his ingenuity, activity,
and zeal bad created ; he flattered himielf that nei-
ther Parliament nor the country would think his ser-
vices overpaid.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ob-
jected to the principle of the Bill, on the grounds be-
fore stated, namely, that he had commuted the claims
by the acceptance of office, which office, by his sub-
sequent conduct, be forfeited ; that, in consideration
of his services to the Public, he had received a remu-
neration of 30001. per annum, and that pension com-
pletely bound all further claims.
Sir THOMAS TURTON contended, that the
claims which Mr. Palmer had upon the Public, had
been over and over again recognised by Parliament.
I He denied that they could be enquired into in a Court ,
of Justice, and maintained that the House wasbound
in justice to sanction the claims. •
Mr. LONG defended the previous opposition given'
Ills the claims, on the ground that no positive agree.
Wet for a stipulated sum had been entered into.
I" The 90LICITOR-GENERAL opposed it on the
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Mr. iiifilrtie toms& & protest dpipst the