The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-03-26 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

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into desereed
disrepute, though It might "tie atilt uts.:
derstood. This change had been peaceably Wrested '
by the interferetute of Lord W. Bentinck, impeed of
!' being accomplished by men who, with barnetsvwere
perhaps not the best persons to establis a nest ....-1.1••-• •
vernment. He principally rose to deprecate the
adgptiost of thedisgustitig mid contemptible calemnies
of the enemy in the British house of Commeses, since
the comparison drawn would not hold ist" a aittgle
point of view.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT answered That it was of
the utmost importance not only that 'our national ho.
moue should in truth be perfectly pure, but that it
should be unsuspected even by env enemies. It was
not fit that Great Britain shoe id justify her injustice
by asserting that the actiovs of France Were of a
blacker dye. The Noble Lord maintained that para.
mount necessity dictate; our proceedings in Sicily—
necessity was the tyro nee plea—and how many coun-
tries had Bonaparte taken possession of arid over.
run, on the grouv.ii that the safety of his empire and
the tranquillity of Europe required it. Many facts
yet remained %ti the dark, doubtless, because they
would not bear the light—aMong which was the be-
nishment said restoration of the Barons suspected of
intercouese with the enemy.
Lord CASTLEREAGH re-asserted thatiteensak
aloue had induced the British Minister, notote was
supposed, to overthrow the system, but merely to
make a representation to the King of Sicily against
the existing form of Goveritruest. Theeaholethange
that succeeded was voluntary, .nor wer British
authorities coucertieff lit or responsibleforjt. Der,
ling these tratuactions theemidtidt of Lad:William
Bentinck had been not less remarkable fors mildness
and forbearance/ than for a rigid execution of his in.
sttuctions.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT explained. •
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCREQtfER
remarked upon the triumphant tone in which the
Right lion. Baronet had reminded the HOuse that
his recommendation at a former period' had at length
been attended to by the alteration which had been
produced in Sicily.. If, however, the British Go.
vernment had not waited until the present time before '
it interfered, the object would have been defeated,
inasmuch as matters were not until now ripe for the
change accomplished, nor would it even at this time
have been proper to have proceeded to the extent ad-
vised by the Right Hon. Baronet in his former
speeches. If it were questionable at this time whe-
ther interference were right, surety at any former
period (before the danger which lately threatened,
the British army was apparent) it would have been ,
most unjustifiable. He admitted the fitness of re-
moving from the British character the greatest of ail j
stigmas cast upon us by our enemies; viz. that we
were actuated by the same principles that governed
them, if that might be called goveriunent which ad.]
Ikeowledged no)aw. tic was surprised, however, to '
find that the Right Hon. Baronet was the instrnment
by which these unfounded calumnies were circulatid.
I Sir JOHN NEWPORT maintained that it was a
totally different thing to make terms•with our Ally
when he was independent, and when wt had an army
of 15,000 British soldiers in his territory. Perhaps,
upon enquiry, he should tierce that it was important
' that the revolution should be accomplished ; but he
required, and the country required, that it shoild be
•made evident to all the world that such conduct was
justifiable. It was a very easy, though not perhaps
a satisfactory way of answering arguments, to accuse
the individual employing them, of improper motives ;
under certain ,circumstances he might be proud of
the disapprobation of the other side cf the lionse,
more partiCularly when they endeavoured. to deter
him from the discharge of a' public duty, which, as a
Member of Parliament, he felt himself called upon to
I perform.
I The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
answered, that the objection just made, that we ought
' to have treated with our ally while he was free, could
not apply, inasmuch as, at the formation of the
Treaty, to fulfil which this grant was proposed) there
was a British army in Sicily.
Colonel BASTARD and Mr. lIUME expressed
their high approbation of the conduct of Ministers
with regard to Sicily.
The question was then put, and the vote agreed to
without a division.
MISCELLANEOUS I BTIMATES.
Mr. WHARTON,. after some remarks from Mr.
iMartin and Mr. H. Brown moved the following Re-
;
solutions
50,0381. for the Caledonian Canal.
I Y0,007r. for maim.; Roads ant building Bridges in the 1101
lands.
5,594/. for making Military Roads in the same. . - ,
11,0,V. for Coutiogencies of the Or Ct• Secretaries of State.
6,000'. for Extra Clerks and Mew..yrs of ditto.
3,400". for the Civil Establishment to: the Bahama Islands.
1,030!. for ditto of Denied*. •
600/. for ditto of Dominique.
8,4"d!'11. fur ditto of Upper Canada.
• 0,q51. for ditto of Novi Scotia.
s,oud!. for ditto of -New Brunswick.
t',o:".ot. fur ditto of Cape Breton.
3,9711. for ditto of Xewfttuctdbiod• • • •
11,0415'. for ditto of Sierra Leone.
11,701!. fur ditto of Now South Wain.. , ! '
• MR.CHINNERT'S DEFALCATION,
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Mr. BANKES took this opportunity of petting 'a
',question to the Chancellor of the Exclieqaer, which
I was not distinctly heard in the gallery upon this sub-
! jest.- 'We understood him to complain. that the
whole of the money voted for New South. Waled;
was iu consequence of Mr. Chinnery's embezzlement
He lamented that the public accounts were not more
correctly and regularly audited.
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER ad-
' mated, that the case to which the Honourable Nem-
her had alluded, was of the gravest complexion, and
ought to be considered as a very severe warning to
those who were entrusted with the examination of
accounts, in the department to which Mr-Chienery
belonged. The fact was, that this person bad been
concerned not only with this but with
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mcnitio:uosouclhdreginthikiod,gteebe ascertained until an immense variety of
accounts for many former years had been gone I
rnAeudittyilma, sptitoast
impossible
rn individualiilnitot
oianesqccaou
pre sentelEs
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difo,tenir4:
Mr. Perceval confessed that until the -.last momeat
Mr. Chitruery had succeded in praeii.ing upon him a
gross imposition.
Mr. ROSE felt himself called up, connected as he I
had been with the individual whose delinquency was '
under consideration, to give a short statement to the
House. In the year 1783, upon a very strong re-
commendation from Lord Thurlow, to whom Mr.
Chinnery had acted as Private Secretary, he procured
him the place which be lately occupied. During
three or four years the young man conducted himself j
with the greatest propriety, but after his marriage, he
involved himself in a traiu of expence, against which j
Ihe (Mr. R..) remonstrated, but without effect. Mr.
Chinnery seemed to increase yearly in extravagance,
lio that Mr. Rose becarne-extremely uneasy as to the i
funds out of which he thaintained• himself, although I
Mr. Chinnery assured him, that besides his salary,he
I had extensive means for his support. At lasi the j
Right Hon. Crentleman, finding his advice npavap)ng, I
abandoned him ; and about 14 or 15 yearl,Sps illj
intercourse-ceciaed. In 1801, he (Mr. R.)'qtdtted the
, Treasury, and from that period had never seen et
spoken to Mr.. Chinnery but in the presence of his
Honourable Friend (Mr. Wharton), who succeeded
him. About a 'yea!' and 'it,half ago Mi. Rose
felt it neoeassey to- call the attention of the Secre. ,
tart' of the-Treasury to the subject : the truth was,
that 'Mr. Chinnery was then living in a scandalous j
way, wholly inconsistent with any honest means.— '
Under these circumstances he (Mr. It.) wrote to the .
delinquent a very strong letter, and received an an-
swer, both of which he had in his possession, and
lamented that he had not brought them down to the
House. Under all these circumstances, Mr. Rose
was convinced that not a syllable could•be urged in
favour of Mr. Chinnery, who, after repeated stern-
fogs, had lived during the last fifteen years at an un-1
warrantable expellee. Mr. Rose never set foot in
his house, excepting once, when he stood Gad-father j
to Mr. Chinnerv's son, although he was frequently
invited to splendid concerts, attended by many per-
sons of distinction. When Mr. Chinnery was asked;
how he could afford to give such entertainments) he
was in the habit of laying, that the performers were
happy to come to his house, and that they would re.
iceive no pay. A arse. of snore deliberate guilt could
not be conceived,. and Mr: Rose lamented that the
Embezzlement Bill, now before the House, had not
passed, arid included Mr. Chinnery's case, as a more ;
j fit objeet for exemplarypunishment could not he se-_I
lected. If the Bill contained no clause to corn- 1
p, ise a similar offence, the Right lion: Gentleman
thought it would be highly proper that a provision
for that purpose should be introduced,
The CHA'NCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER,
after an observation explanatory of the nature of the
grant then voted, said, in reference to the case of
IMr. ' Chinnery, that for the future every possible
precaution would be resorted to, on the part of Go-1
I I ernment, to present a repetition of such unexpected;
losses as the- public had speedy experienced. The
general principle upon which these provisions would
rest, would be that of issuing no monies which
j should not be audited at least every quarter. [Pear,
t kw!]
Mr. BANKES thought the only radical cure of
such abuses was to by found in a strict and approved j
system of auditing, systematically pursued and ri-
gorously adhered to. At present, the system was
I defective, but such as it was, it bad been acted up to
1-by the two auditors, the third Under-Secretary of
j the Treasury, and the principal First Clerk, with
I commendable diligence. He thought, however, that
the house should not rest, till they had obtained for
the public an Audit Board.
After some observations from
_Messrs. Long and
Martin, the resolutions were agreed to, when the
House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be
received to-morrow. •
The third reading of the Charitable Donations'
Bill was fixed for the sth April. '
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed
of, and the House adjourned.

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Spain, and of England with regard to-Sicily, The accounts, which rendered his statements extremely auritius., instead of retiring from the frontiers
of Portagai, is collecting an immense army
pretended abdication of the throne of Spain pre- complicated. The conduct or the auditors appointed
cured by the forma ~ wag a mere hypocritical veil, upon investigation, would be found not so blameable in that quarter, and that an engagement is expected
under which he concealea his Buse and treacherous as might at first be imagined, since Mr. Chinnery had soon to take place. At Salamanca, there were 60,000
designs. " ingeniously managed, so to balance one account troops assembled, with a petit of artillery, consisting
Mr, S'ITYHEN corrested, whet he conceived to against another, as to render detection a matter of f IQ°
0 pieces of cannon, and the most active and
be, a misrepresentation by Sir Jahr) Newport, of the much difficulty, .It was true, that the auditing of successfu . l exertions have been made by the enemy to
arguments empleyFd in a previous Seselon upon this public accounts 'had formerly been grossly neglected,
question,• He matntained, that previous to the late but of late years mach assiduity had been employed "procure a regular supply id provisions. Dispatches
*gelation the people of Sicily were in a manner en- to balance them very nearly to the present time. it . were received yesterday by afiIdPITNIPIt from Earl
eavrd, and were denied "'the rights of man," to use was paving to these exertions that the deficiency on - WZI.LIireToN, bat being dated io faelack as the
IF i tifirrei which trent ke .dross perversiou, bad fallen the part 9r 31. i. Cbineery was discArveresli bet it liith °of Fabraaart they somas*** aesbing new
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