The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-01-25 00:00:00

REPORT OF THE AODRF.SR.

Mr. BANKES appeared at the Bar with the Report
of the Address. On the qoestion that it be brought up,
Mr. W. LAMB observed, that with respect to most
of the topics to which the Address referred, there WI uhl
be various opportunities, of discussing theni. There
was one, however, of so urgent a nature, and on which
a step might suddenly he taken so irremediable as to
place it entirely out of the power of that House, that he
felt it to be impossible, consistently with his sense of
date, to allow it to pass without a few observations.
That topic was the present state of the affairs of Naples,
awl of the conference nulls reference to that Mate,
were supposed be going on among the gee*
be particularly rose for
as, to make a remark or two on the statement in the
Speech (rm the Throne, and in the speech of the Noble
Lord opposite on this interesting subject. As far as he
could tinsierssand those statements, they professed the
observance of a strict nectrality by the British Govern-
ment, as 14%11 its an anxious wish (or the general preser-
vation of tranquillity in Europe ; and, if that should
prove impossible, fur at least securing the continuance
of peace as far as this coitutry was concerned. It was
to the principle of non-interference on the part of this
country., thus distinctly asserted, that be objected.
what Gad been the consequences of a similar principle
whet' the partition of Flatland took place,' Were they
peace and tranquility? No. The consequence, on that
occasion, of that principle of non-interference, on the
part of this eonntry, with the designs of foreign Poten-
tates, had been the long and inveterate wars in which
Europe had since been involved, and which had left this
country and the continent in the state of distress in
which they now found thews' Ives. Such had been the
disastrous result of our decli--ing on that occasion to co-
operate with France in interfering to prevent the ini-
quitous project then contemplated from being carried
into etfeet. What he wished particularly to impress on
the minds of the Noble Lord and his i:olleagnes was,
that it hostilities were once to commence in any part of
Europe, no man could tell how far they might extend ;
and to urge them to easels an interference with respect to
Naples as might prevent any such calamity. By such a
wise sod timely -interference the peace and tranquillity
of this consitre would stand a much better chance of
being effectually secured than by the indulgence of any
fallacious hope, that if hostilities were once colunsenee;l
in any quarter w bitterer we might be able to keep
this country front being compelled to enter into the
contest.

Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that as it was im•
possible to dispatch a subject so interesting and im-
portant in a few sentences, it would in his opinion be
more expedient to postpone its consideration until an
opportunity might be afforded for discassieg it in Par-
liament in the ample manner which it deserved. He
begged not to be understood as giving any opinion on
that question in the present instance; but he was quite '
sure, from what had fallen from an Honourable Heinle-
man of so enlarged a mind, and whose candid moiler of
discharging his Parliamentary duty did him so much
hunonr, that he could nut be at all acquainted with the
duty on which alone any observations on the present
state of affair* in Naples could justly be founded.
WARRE remarked, that the Noble Lord had
POW reprated those observations which he had made in
• bls speech yestenlar, and which were strongly calcu-
lated to arrest attention and to excite alarm. With re-
spect to .1 question that he wished to ask the Noble
lard, he felt himself especially justified in putting it.
I•ersusc some of his Majesty's ships of war had been
employed zn a service connected and interwoven with
the recent trensastions in the kingdom of Naples; he
meant its traespuning the King of Naples to Leghorn.
Ile therefore begeed to ask the Noble Lord, if he could
fsresee the prohiltie time when he wouhi be ahle to fur-
nigh the House with information, either in the shape of
documents or otherwise, un this most interesting and
important subject; on the result of which, perhaps, de-
pended the peace and tranquillity of Europe ; and of no
citatory inure than England?

Lord CASTLEREAGH professed himself enable to
Rive any precise answer to the question of the Honour-
able Gentleman. If the Honourable member would, at
a subsequent period, move for any information which 6u
might nista fur as to the course pursued by this essolOY
is the transaction, there could he no hesitation in pro-
ducing it ; but be would himself see, that any comma-
aiestion respecting the larger European question woiW
he attended with more difficulty. This, however, he had
no hesitation in distinctly declaring, that though there

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had certainly been no difficulty on the part of tlle English
Admiral on the station, to aWord the King of Naples
every possible fdtil!ty for his voyage from Naples to Leg-
horn, yet it ought not to be inferred from thit inter-
ference that England had any participation eithit in the
invitation of his Majesty the 'Km, of Naples to LaYbach.
or in any other part of the policy of the three great
powers on the subject.
Sir ROBERT WILSON said, that he had been given
to understind that a Neapolitan of high rank and elm.-
racier had been sent to the English Court by the Con-
stitutional Government recently established in Naples.
but that having tendered his credentials, he W,4, though
received with the Noble Lord's usual urbanity, not re-
cognised in his character of Envoy, on the ground that
it was impossible for the British Government to recog-
nise any act of the new Goverunient at Naples, until the
Allied Powers hail come to some decision on the negro-
elation then carrying on at Troppan. and since at Lay-
back. On that ground, after remaining three weeks
here, be understood that the individual in question re-
turned to the Continent. If that was really the fact, It
mattered little what hope of the preservation of riese•
might be expressed in his Majesty'a, or in the Ministers
Speech, for here was a direct overt act of hostility
against the Neapolitan Government. In sending back
the Minister whom he had deputed to us, we had rou -
mitted an act towards the Neapolitan people, which if
they were as powerful as they were brave, they would
sot fail instantly to resent. It was the more ignoble on
the part of the British tiovernment, that the act was di-
rected against a nation too feeble to express its sense of
the injury. He knew that the Noble Lord would say
that a Neapolitan Minister was at present resident in
London ; hut he resided here only berause the existing
Government of Naples were desirous, that if the Minisb r
whom they had accredited to the Court of London
should nut he received, all intercourse with that Court
should not be therefore suspended. In this lie confessed
lie thought they acted unwisely, because he thonglit
that they would have done mods better boldly to assert
all their rights as an independent nation ; and if they must
perish, at least to perish without the slightest comprise
tome of their honour.—(Hear, hear !)
Lord CASTLEREAGH declared the impossibility of
entering into all the details of this subject, even were he
prepared himself to feel all the animation with which
the gallant General appeared invariably to contemplate
every posaible species of Revolution. Ile protested
against the principle that the British Government were
bound to rush f.orward and acknowledge esery change
that might he made in a foreign Government without
the least deliberation as to its nature. On the contrary,
the British Government had distinctly declared, that it
could not instantly consent to a technical and formal re-
cognition of a state of things which required much deli-
beration to estimate. All that he (Lord C.) now wished
to press on the House was, that while they brill the Go-
vernment of this country strictly to acronnt for the en-
, gagements whirls they made with other powers, they
would not interfere ton frequently in the policy of other
powers. Those powers were as much entitled to art in-
dependently with reference to any point in which they
considered their own interests involved as this country
would be in similar circutilstaucea.
Sir It. WILSON wished to ask the Noble Lord wise-
the nos-recognition of the new Neapolitan Minister was
accompanied by any circumstances hostile to the new
Constitutional Government of Naples ?
Lord CASTLEREAGH—CertainIy not.
Mr. JAMES adverted to the Austrian Loan, and re-
quested to know if there was any prospect of its being
repaid?
I ford emsnipurittni to that In Ile riot pe•
rioil after the contraction of that Loan, there had b en
some payments upon it; but for a long course of year.
no payment had recently been interchanged on the sub-
ject, they were not of a nature to hold out any great
prospect of a speedy repayment.—(A laugh.)
Mr. JAMES then gave notice,
that he would shortly
submit to the House a motion for l'apers explanatory of
the subject.
Sir It. HERON was sure the question of Naples
would not he treated as one of delicacy by Austria. It
was well known by every English Gentleman who hail
travelled on the Continent, that the conduct of the Go-
vernment of Auitria was so execrable in Italy, that any
thing like freedom or independence was utterly incom-
Catible with the continuance of its power. Ministers
ad by their measures brought the country into such a
state, that it was impossible we could enter upon a new
war without immediate destruction to our Imasicet
Were it not fur that, there was no English heart foot
*ould not anxiously wish that this country should vigb-
googly interfere to put down this new system of diplo-
macy. and counteract the designs of the three holy and
roeal inquisitors who took upon themselves to sit in
judgment en what they were pleased to consider the
crimes of independent nations. Nappy result of that
most happy piece of royal blasphemy—the Holy Alli-
ance!

Mr. HUME said it had been stated to him, that an
application had been made to our Government, to know
if permission would be granted to export to Naples a
supply of anus, for the manufacture of which a com-
mission had been received in this country. If such
an application had been made and refused, it would
show that onr Uovernnient favoured the objerts of Aus-
tria, rather than the struggle of the Neapolitans. He
therefore begged to know if any application as that
which Iss had described had been made
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that he bad not heard
of any such application.
Mr. BANKES then brought, up the Report. After
it had been read a second time, and on the question for
agreeing to it,
Mr. HUME, adverting to the paragraph which re-
lated'to the reductions said to have been made in the
Military establishment of the country, and he presumed
that his Majesty's Ministers were prepared to say in what
branches, and to what extent, those reductions Lad taken

plaec.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied,
that it was impossible for him to answer at present.—
The nature of these reductions would appear when the
Army Estimates should be laid on the Tatar.
Mr. HIJME said, he should have supposes! that Mi-
nisters, before they put the passage in trestion into his
Majesty's mouth, would ha►e theestimates before them,
otherwise they had made his Majesty state that, of the
troth of which they could not be assured.
The Address was then agreed te, and ordered to be
presented by the whole House ; and such Members of
the House as were of his Majesty's Most Honourable
Privy Council were ordered to attend his Majesty, to
know when be would be graciously pleased to receive
the same.
On the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH, his Ma-
jesty's most gracious s➢eech was ordered to he taken
into further consideration tomorrow.
Lord CASTLEREAGH gave notice, that on Wednes-
day he would submit to the House a motion on that
pan of ►is Majesty's most gracious Speech, which re-
lated to the prevision to he made for bet Majesty the
Queen-
Mr. WETHERELL, after a few prefatory remarks,
resolved the motion which be made yestenlay, foe Conies
of all the Collects since the Accession of James theist,
in whisk the name of the Queen Consort hod been in-
troduced. &e.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said he had no objection to
the production of the decussate DOW moved for,

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although at the same gine be saw no *washy for the
motion, as facts of a siMilar kind were often stated in
debate, and assumed al true without any official,mathelc-
tication. His oppositfoo to the motion of the hpg. and
learned gent. on a former °erasion, had proceedek 'from
the unusual, and, as be coneeived, not very prudent Mo-
ment at which it was brought forward.
The motion was then agreed to.
The usual sessional orders were read by the Speaker.
Mr. LUSIGNOTON laid on the table accounts of
the revenue of Great Britain and Ireland, for the year
ending the sth of January, 1821.
Adjourned at nine o'clock.

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