The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-06-07 00:00:00

that if the- agreed to the measure before lie:See
that the tiovernment •of the United Netherlands would
also rescind any prohibitory enactment. of theirs. It was
alibi that the Rill would be iojorious to the shipping trade
of the cenntry., The saute thing was said on the'repril
of the Navigation Lowe, but experience as yet bad not
borne out the itesertion, To what extrot. he woubl:aer.
would thrallvirile. of prohibition go ?,,Wctuld 44 brine
cargoes in the shipping of our country, let„Popa go
away in hallasr,.and then mike their returns itatise ship•
pint of another. He might as well enact prohibitions
b.weeo the rival waggon masters of Manchester or Kir-
missgbam. With serord to Pros& she eonrd never enter
into a competition within ; bee ports were closed for the
greater part of the year, ' n feet, we had advantagesin
espial and industry over all eonntrktetb save iti from the
dread of competition with them.' The object of this
-Rill then weals' bele prate thedutiee or drawbacks on
all goode.insperted here precisely on the saute footing in
which they good in those countries from which the goods
came. Power would be.given to the Ding i.e Council to
declare the ewes in which the application of this pried-
pie was proper. Thos the dimes . with. regard to the
Dutch e oald be precisely as the notch ditties were with
'regard to us. So it would be also with regard to Prus-
sia. and all other countries. The. jealousies' which
+night otherwise be felt of giving to tbe,Crown, what
appeared to he a :power of laying•ot or remitting ivies,
Would be obviated by the eonsideration, tbit the !Crewe,,
only decided upon the fact of when the remiision of a.
texheeame necessary. As soon as other countries. took
off the duties upon British shipping,., then would tkeei
duties on Weigel vessels be remitted here:. ,The llonsei
were aware that a strong disposition to- come into oar
Measures was. already manifested by 'event countries.,
upon the Continent. The Prussian (lowernment had de=
Glared. that skey would takeoff the dlitietwasoon as we
set theta,. the ezatiople. In fact, the iniociple was
coming into general operation on the-Pont)stent• The
Intentions of tit Prussian Government in this respect,
were set forth 4 catemariel presented to this Comet; by
the resident minister. for that country. ' The ritentotial
was in these Words •' reciprocal' restraints upon cons-
tnerce, are teciprocal 111.4alleti. They are prejudicial
to all nations. .the government of Prussia, instead•
of manifestlap-ii disposition to keep up the raiding
reriprocal matraints,--offers. on its• pit: all reciProcel
faeilifies M., skips ,:rd cargoes. hotrreen."-tlre:tu° none-
tries.", rjleir.) :.111e Right flowationtlenian concluded
by peoposing a Resolution. enspowering..the Jung in
13"erili to rumlit tin juties on for*'gn .oiiip!iw, in
all cases ahem elie, ditties is Beitith. ,shipping had
been remitted if rasnitriesto, which. lite, *lopping be-
longed.
Mr. ELLICF, .eadds,..kre did not ',lotto dissent from the
principle of ',hi( 147,11.,.41.which be entirely. approved
but to make $ . .et .to the (Vest Rim, Itsotletnan
which be li. iroida not be thrown eway upon' him.
:iptesitto
As he was 11)/joiltoopen the clan/tag ..trade to the
ships of evegypief of the world, he begged of the Kiel*
flee. Gentleman to pat the vessels of this country i
a state of fair-WidtpetitiOn with foreigneee..ifileh was
be done maybe resseningthe charges ttefit• 14, "oat
vials, such as ale date oft. hemp, tlnabeijEe. - Mar.)
It was 'quteir.leittofliiilr, .that whihtittrie aiTtief csitith•
rued in tiql#oo6l taste, our ship Prig VoitiVaOsoldrilt
eroneetition. for !off fielght.ge with tiii'eft‘Pslff &heti
nations, which were tat sohject to the iithiti_tliztf.. One
other suggestion lies o-ished to make. which atilt, that
a clause should biliffrodueed into the 11111: 'enacting.
that copiei of-all tegiletions adopted' hy, thS King in
in Outsell, stontd.beledd upon the table of this House.
Mr. fIUSIKISSON said, that ilds rigulatioe eras al-
seedy part of the Rill. • •
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Air. SYKESaeid, lieeoneurreal in the-generil princi-
ples of the Sill.; 14t it the same time Aien it atruck at
the root of el .Thortiarigatita laws of the country, be
thought that tains ilieneheliTel,be.girels thesillPili4-in-
teretts berate tit k Millets 'risers', Into,klap," tie 'bora
there. fore, IN/4PM 'or the Right floe. 0 ellikettte to put
the Rill merely through the first seigeeildtafterharitig
it printed, to let it staid over to the nisi &eliabn. He
odinitted that titers .was a general prolamin's-tires to
• Reitisb ships; but • stilllid the Rigkt • Hos.'llentletnan
tl•lnk, that -with •the disadvantages under Which the
shroPieg. of this counlrylabooted. thee could eoMpete
with foreigners i - At lie sac deternsiied thew 40 pees
this Measore,aetsealapt, 1,. begged of hinceo lessen•the
charges t Atippitig, more perticularly the abominable
charges of its. consaddes.—{Hear.) This was smatter
which called-4r rest improunnint.• Nenrchonie the•
charges of „topside were well ascert doed. !,:bit la-
shing receded from home, the charges enrecasedd :This.
wits an inqapporrable grievance to the shigyisg. a rov
Mr. HUSKISSON *ado be coedit awn ettosenttesidst.
the Bill stead over, for it was a *Willi 'which, if
it was desirall'e At all ought to pass at -041.1 e .lint, ohe'.
Mr. 'F. WALLACE was of the same.,iopjoion. He
colloid not consent to postpone this minsure..,..T4e exist-
enee of these ditties in their satire, dappidO oral the
cooler! of other countries I but it was r.l, tr.,,when abet
consent wsi.witbdrawn, they rota set be cootieu,ed.—
The only mein. of meeting the steps which dass.•Powers
of the Continent Were about to take. with reieard.to our.,
commerce, was-to equalise these dut'es. (he was aware
that some clam liad been felt by the shipping.ioterest on
the subject ; but he bad never known 'the Alg-o§raers to
interfere, bit they turned oat eventually tit lie is the(
wrong. Theri.was no doubt of our velokitilll4.ol° X'
compete with. tbow of other countries,pe the 'etlyaotages_
which they possessed is Whet ri's*tri q -Sri slat:
lib
balanced the disadvantages under ebar . .1, -.. fie. ;pee
was, that the earryingtrede °Obi} COdete" lhipierobrit
eves with these countries which ialojed I:464eitikl eft-,
eruptions (rem:charges of this trinC.
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Alr. KOORTStiN steongry .srOestecr,,liptio# the.
• measure, as slated ta.ruin the tilabitinie loreeests. of
this country, ;Be .denied. tuna as/ Ifceiukivevuld ex-
ist between tyei tuterrets so newquaki p,ebetrouleantee es,
as the abipionto of this:and,dther onpapriesk.',-Qm ship-
ping interest, anscolcossjosoonb.oppross4 "Await 1¢:I
and 1823, titer-tniling eff in ineribatfte4Wittprisati-been
732 vessels. Utlistleo tons; and B,ooo7scieseir. .Itkeflottett
were led astray titan absurd attratidtfidiliii"dl etrlnien?
political reottotor. •It was a measure litie-ibisiihichlest
France all die mweying trade-with. AnitrieV.' it watt, tie
. interest of mercantile men, that three detid.aboala'' be
taken off, bad they were sefilsietereitestilfpeiNlTerisbed
to, support the navy of the eountry;*fat rudest tirelierglies
of our ships were higher than Vbol'of Oilifee:'111111 Miry
could not be kept op. The'ilefc 'Mainter'expriresed 'lsffs
intention of taletottbe sense Of -tbeillilostrtipoithe:R*4:
solutions. '• • . - --c..! , • ! • . ,
Sir ISAAC COFFIN observed; thatiirtbe Von. Mem-
ber had taken a liberal and enlarged view of.iliis.nieasn re,
IN* would find that all his alarm as to thirinjary likely to
be dine the shipping Pas grounillear. . - •
Mr. Kit:ANDO thought the House Were sake great
obligations to the Right Hon. Gentleman for bringing •
this measure forward. He was glad that the House, at
length saw that restraints upon others in .commercewere.
restraints upon ourselves. He could not agree that there
was any danger to the shipping, for if ease articles, need
in ship-building were dear Isere,-otherswere also cheap.
He thought, however, that the dads.e on.tiatber should
be taken oft; and ,
the timber of Canada "find pot
.. ula‘ t . .
upon the same rooting.
Mr. T. WILSON said that theshir4 'l ''4 A Oitacin
i,
expected that the charge. would be: 7
compromise for peeling this nisamitti-,.; -.40 obargrs .
were not lowered, they would not boob% Se tappets with
foreigners.
Mr. MARRYATT said tbat whetither imontries 414'
taking of thee duties, there own* coarse lett us but to
follow their example. •