The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-04-05 00:00:00

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tie% is the expenditure 4
'of ; be bad stated this 4
he wont,' semis repeat it.
Isree• auillinns ; the geese
,Meath% to he trade) by f'
presentative for the cosi
sell, was five.millions, 7
-making a reduction of
ing forlyohree *Minna
she sense as; in Mt,
et-04mM with agrictiltni
certain the. reuse of the'"
aaaelag the farmers. It vi. .
thaw^ gentlemen that the distrems arose from extras:ire
%station. Now, if the distress then maw from taxation,
bow much the more, a fortiori. must laxatiou be the
I Cause of present distreio, since Minister's tome Mil 01)3
;millions of new taxes since that rwried.—(Applause.)
—There have been a variety of opinion', coutinued Mr.
Hammond, on the original cause of the distress. Many,
were led away with the idea that it was owing to thej
immolation of foreign corn ; he himself was once of that
opiiiion ; hut it was the object of his life to divest hie
mind of prejudice, and be now confessed his error. He
was now lo rainadeal that • graduated import ditty could
afford no relief: It *wild be but taking so much money
rod of the pockets of the people to put it into these of
the members of the government; and as taxation is the
cause of the distress, they would thereby be but ewe-
rating the evil. In England, as a manufacturing
country, previsions should be cheap, and the taxer ought
to he so koy as to enable the former to obtain a resumer-
%ling price. Corn. being. an article of general con;
simption • might nut to be ; butt-him. ftlois "1"..
NOS. sale many either things which were mere luxuries.
might he proportionably taxed ; but a tax on corn he con-
sidereal not only cruel and unjust, but impious. _Provi-
dence in its bounty gives as every thing that our wants
demand ; buy man steps in, and by his cruel taws de-
, priers us of the blessing.—{Appian--s.), Lord Liverpool
lied said that agricultare must relieve' itself oat of its
own resources; and so long as the money entail nued to
pone into ;hi treasury, and they enjoy it, iittle will they
think how that money is procured, and how hardly it is
41 by the sweat of the brow, and wrested from the
hands' that herd %boor. Alitaisters will never reform se
long as ens allow them money to squander at their plea.
sure t for Lord Liverpool had the assurance to assert
that the distress did not arise from taxation blame' over
production. When his Lordship looked in hitepolitieal
dictionary for this word, he *head have found teat word
ewer taxation, which be considered would have been much
more applicable. Ministers say again. that the 'Slams
is occasioned partly by Peel's bill, hut this could not be
as the bank had issued more specie for this last two or
three years than beret :afore. It cannot he from the im-
portation of corn, as none had been imported ; the real
cause, therefore, must evidently be an excessive load of
taxation more than the country is abie to bear. Doreen-
went, by their collectors and receivers, pour the sums
into the t 000000 v. thence it goes into private hands and
returns no snore into circulation. Ministers have recourse
M many and strange tricks to keep tip the taxes. The
Dnkeof Buckingham lately put forth a statement:to'
*how how inconsiderable the taxes were on a finis of Attu
woes, and the persons employed thereon. Such misre-
presentations have a most evil 'feed upon the minds of
the Istate, and ought to be set aright. This statement
of the Deke's is full of misrepresentations. particularly
%Loire to the tax on salt and leather, the tax on each of
which articles would be double to that stated by the No-
ble Duke. The next trick was this; when the country
met to dismiss their greirances and submit them to the
legislature by petition, ministers called it popular cla-
moer. is this to he endured ? Are people to he deprived
of that liberty which they Lave so long enjoyed under
the Dill of Sights? These tricks tad sum-statements
are taken up by Cie ministerial papers, and particularly,
he tied observed, in Beira Weekly Moseeoger; which,
though it pretended to be a friend to farmers, wag. In
truth. a tool of mitiisters..aml its statements emoted a
jealonsy between the landlord and farmers. Such syco-
phant editors of newapapersare.- iwerntlerwnwismice to
' the country, and ought not to breathe the same air. This
same Bell's Mcssencer had asserted that the total ex-
pence on au acre of land was fit : he would appeil to
any farmer, could an acre be farmed for less than lt.. i
Ntrer was a man more out in his calculations than the
Duke of ihickingbant: it reminded him of liudihras—
Ile was in logic a great erih'e,
Profoundly *LON in analytic ;
lie could distinguish, and divide
A hair 'twixt south and south-west side ;
On al:ber which he would dispute.
Confute, change hands, and still confute :
' lfe'd undertake to prove, by force I
• . Of argument, a man's no horse ;
lied prove a buzzard le no fowl,
And that abseil may be an owl.
The arguments of Lord Londonderry to repel ,the at-
tacks (as be %pleased to call them) upon the faith and
public credit alike coen;ry, are so futile that it was us-
necessary to repeat- Owen; he tells Mr. Hume that he
takes harlequin leaps from one item to another, but he
trusted the Caledonian champion would not he put down
by flashes of Hibernian wit. If any thing is said about
reform, his Lordship turns pale, anal scenes ready to give
up the ghost: this reminded him of a sentence in a play.
of a miser, who hid his treasure in a garden anal lost it ;
on discovering his low, he exclaimed he was murdered,
then his throat was cut, and other mail exclamatioutrt. so
Lord Liverpool, if he were to lose the taxes would lose
all Ills dependance, and wuuld exelaim with the miser,
that he had lost every thing, he would he willing to
bang alt the country, and then hang himself.—(Much
applause.) —Lord Liverpool began his statement to the
people by telling them of the improvement its exphrts
and imports, and in the habits of the people, and that
the duty npua tea had increased—that people more ge-
nerally partook of that delicate beverage instead of the
vulgar botiteder•wed beer. He. however, was an slim.
cats for keeping up the good old customs of o fote;fac
there—perhaps next year his lordship will CO i ratulate
the people upon a further improvement in th habits,
by baring left off eating roast beef and plum peddine,
and taken to eating frogs and soap meagre. lie would
only remind the usotoing, that the men who foneist and
gained the ba•tle of the Nile. dial not drink tea, dr live
upon frogs and soup meagre. His Lordship says, tee du
not stand show in oar distresses for all Europe is dim
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1 tresowl—this is certainly very hientane anal very canto.
limy, as mach as to say, if my home is burnt'down. I
My make myself very easy because my neighlenrs i.
burnt down also—this is certainly reversieg Ile old,
maxim,—" Weep with them that weep, and rejoice with
them that rejoice." His Lordship's grand argument is.
that thrum. distress exists in Switeerlonal—they hair
so standing army, and but few taxes, therefore, that tax-
ation cannot be the cause of our distress. Mr-1
H. would take upon himself to confute this argunient,for
hiving, when young. travelled through Su itzer-
dead, he was conversant in its resources. Switzerland is
41 quell country, and its chief resources are feeding rat-
tle and making cheese, which they exchange foe rice,
-wheat, Ea. With Italy and other countries, they have
hut few mannfactures, and it must be observed, that it
is the poverty of the countries with whom they had used
to trade, who are now unable to purchase of them. which
has caused their distresses. It is a lamentable thing
that Ministers will not profit by experience as Wiwi.
duals do ; let them, however, beware bow they se
ein
the British Lion. the English are a patient people.-
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depressed and driver to desperation, they will se
themselves so, anal like the Leviathan. I 'sigh at the s h-,
log of a spear. Ancient Mowry informs es, that e
',I of a long ascended the diamond his Mist, wise

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Mr. VeIIOWIrR, the other member
As the System of keeping up the
.allioos, and no doubt believes such
'hen in reality.there is on loch thing ;
ben the Government is now neg.).
Istillions with the Bank, that they
revenue? What would Mr. Pashler or
• ikers, think of a person going to
knowing the same person to have
r from his surlptis income in his
he could not find any use. Ile had
expenditnre was 53 millions' taking off
remains 43 million-, and in 1793 the expen-
diture watt on!), 16 millions, therefore he would ask, hoe
could this increase of 27 millions since 1792 he paid at
prices the same as in 1792: If this was all that could
be done, farmers must go into the workhouse. The di-
vidends; ee are told, are alwayspiiii to the stockholder,
&c. Tee, but bow are they paid Be forestalling, by
mortgaging on the old lady in Threa'sineedleotreet for
four quarters to come We owed this lady 9 millions
last year which we could not pay. We owe 4 millions
out of oar own pocket-snonev. We owe that bloated
Cowpony, the East India Coinpany, two millions, for
letting them have a monopoly on tea. And we owe in
the Shape of notes of Land 35 millions, all obis+ is to-
tally onprovided for. He would explain to them the
meaning of Dxcliegner Bills. Suppose a farmer could
mot pay Lis blacksmith's bill, he .gave a note ahead for
it, that would be as it were his exchequer bill, and must
bepeid, and so must the mi Ilions of goveinineot exchequer
JAM now out, yet Ministers talk of a turplui reveaoe
alibi persist ie refusing to takeoff the tax ppnn
which would afford relief to the farmer; under the pm,
text of keeping up a sinking fund which does not exist.
Mr. Wing, in an excellent and eloquent speech, bad ex-
horted them to be firm in pressing for a Reform;
he would exhort them to reform themselves ; be
would call upon every man who Lad the right of voting
to lay aside all private expectation of Fain or patronage
'for their children, and instead of saying to themselves
" bow much ran 1 get for my vote," ask themselves
1" what will this or that man du for the benefit of his
I country"; let them consider, that in the act of voting',.
1 they tacitly take ail oath to discharge their duty as Ism.
neatly as if they took it as j swore in that box—they would
then reap the benefit of their iniegrity. So long as he,
I (111r.W ) resided in the county, ha would endeavour to
bring forward an honest man both for town and county;
they should always have an election—so that if they
chose to vote honestly they might have an opportunity ;
I and if they voted otherwisethe fault world be their own.
land if they fell, they would fall unlamented and appa-
tied. The distress of the country he considered had not
yet reached its height ; May, 1523, would be the trial
when the Dank of England and the country Ranks would
be obliged to pay in gold; since it was by the issues of
the country banks they were alone enabled to carry on
the exchange of business and the common intercourse of
life. Mr. Al'. regretted the absence of Lord J. Russel
at a meeting, which had for its of jectthe cause in wh!eh
his Lordship wasso deeply interested; he regretted that his
absence was occasioned by illness; but had he been there
and seen hew hearty his constituents were in the cause,
lie thought it would hare done him more good than the
sea breezes of ant place Le could vi-it. After some fur-
titer observations, the learned gentleman concluded by
saying he had nothing to du with the petition to the
license of Commons, for he had ileteraiii c I not again to
petition that house, as be did not recognize it.
The Rest. D. D. Wi:ths rose merely, be said, to pro-
pose that the petition just read be presented to the House
of Commocs by the mentLers for the county ; and inas-
timelt as the name of Mr. Fellowea formed a part if the
business of the cloy, a letter front that tientleman having:
been read, he trusted be slimild be allowed to say a
kr/Nerds, rersedlnF Isis eonnuot. (The Sheriff here
illie4ered. to tisk rf the Rev. tleatte7nan intended to
conclude with any resolution on theeas of .the
dor.) Mr. W. said the Reside liar Minfentadd to pro-
pose was what lie bad Meted. edit orpedriosthat the
ridden be presented ter tire amply mem would
not, after the excelleni speed; which the meeting had
heard, trespass upon their time further this to make
the observations he was about to do respecting Mr. Fel-
lowes—that lientleman, when a motion was made to re-
peal the salt tax, thought proper not to vote either for
or against it; he instill ask did this show his attention
to the welfare of tar agrieultnricts —it was in his power
to have rendered then, a service by rutin< for the repeal
of that tax which pressed su lieuvily upon that part of
the community which be was sent to Parliament to re
present. It had been stated by a Learned tieotlemen,
-Mr. Margetts, that this meeting did not comprise the'
mere resrctable part of the Agriculturists ; he would
sat to that gentleman, in answer to this objection, that
this meeting did comprise respectable Agriculturists,l
and that if country gentlemen did not agree with the'
proceedings about to take place. why did not they come
forward manfully and state their dissent in the face of
the county, whatever might be their opinion, however,
be was decided that excessive taxation was the sole cause
of distress, and the only reunify —A Reform in Parlia-
ment.
Mr. Toon AS Div °hareem', he was unaccustomed to
public speaking, i.e was a farmer, and was about to ad-
dress a few words to fanners. He wished to ask, what
t are we to think, when we are told by profound statesmen
sod lawg:vere, that an abundaut harvest is an evil, he
would ask what are we to think of men who preach such
doctrine so contrary to nature, so contrary to the pray-
-1 ers of every farmer and every poor man, whose hopes
nee sliver placed on the expectation of having a good
harvest and a tine time to gather it in. It was his opi-
nion that these profound politicians hail made a small
mistake, he could not bat think they meant on abund-
ant crop of team, instead of alinnolant crops of
corn had occasioned the evil. —(Langhter.)—lt bad
always been his opinion that the landholder wonlit
ruin the farmer; and he thought he was right;
fot the landed proprietor seldom paid any attention to
the welfare of the farmer. This was apparent to-day,
for lie saw no landed proprietor present to consult with
the experiemed agriculturist on the cause and remedy
of the distress. Ile manta not detain the meeting longer
but to express his opinion that the formers hope always
Lad been, and always would he, be trusted, on the good-
ness of providence in sending a plentiful harvest.
Mr. S. lYrt.t.s propnarl that the thank.' of the meet-
ing lie given to the Sheriff fur his readiness in conven-
ing. the same, and to the Under-Sheriff fur hiarourteons
and manly conduct doting the prom-riling% of the day.
Mr. PEMBERTON?. the ruh•Skerilf, returned thanks, and
the meeting was dissolved.

(ITS lII'SINEss.—A Conti of Aldermen was held
ersterday at Guildhall. when the Let•• .1 'isyor deel.tre.!
the Office of Kreorder vacant, by the desth of v•trJ .ho
Silicate,. Hatt.; and it was resolved that the 0 lice
should ee filled at the nest Court. which the Lord
3layor appointed for Wednesday next.
Yesterday being Msondays'llurclay. the null' an
nnal Rural donations were distribute/ at Witi.total:
chapel to as many poor men and w nas the Kine
is years old; fur it Web perp.we thete was a luni:
temporary wooden ererlion, shed-like, against the
side of the chapel in Whitehall•yard.
The Cast India Company's ship Herefordshire is
areirtd in the Channel ; she left China on the 211 ot
:Nov., and St. Helena on Ili/ 6th of ?ohm try. All the
Conspsey's ships of the scaatlll
gime the Vsoiistart. •

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ter, mad .a. aid.. ts era; goy re.. wimanly 16 millions. Mr. Velloll/
this at tlw.latetitilton "sleet . and for the Pointe, impports the *tail
,rat it. The expenditure to n4ofty. Sinking. Fani of 5 iitillioas, and n
• g redoction talked ...a. (as la fund does esistotiten in reality:
e) by Mr. Hume. and the wolthy're• how uif likely, o hen the Goon
e county of llontirgdon. Lord O.' Rua. I chitin* a loan of 4 millions with
m sinkutx i. and the toad fire mnred have a surplus revenue? What
it rtf ten millions I consequently lear.l Mr. Vessel.. the hankers, think
Minns to he paid rah pace. of pro4uca theta VI borrow 40W. knotting tin
1702, when the Yearly expenditure 500/. of ready money from his s
gricoltnrsl matter', if possible to as., hands, and for which he could ant
of the distress that generally prevailed i said lwfore the expenditnre was
rs. It waa the common opivion of 10 and there remains 43 million.,
.. _...,_ ~. ______ .....—_ r... ......ire. dkuve was only 16 millions, there