The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-03-22 00:00:00

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. HOUSE SUMNER Moved the firth's. •
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Bilk. Hon. Member istntod that the C
had come to se of the most. extraiirdimary decisions
be had ere n. say Contsettee come to. It bad
been deternsiaed yothe Committee that the Standing
Orders of the House had not been conspged with, in
reference to the Vesting 'up notices on the .Parish
Church doors den intention to naive the House re-
iative to the alteration or increase of the Poor's Rates.
The House would see that it was a very hard ease,
when be informed them that regular notices, according
to the injunctions of the House, were inserted in all
the County Newspapers, and were pat up twice upon
the doors of the Church ; and upon the third time,
after it had been up for two days, the word " iiteress-
in" was interlined, in consequence of which, it was
evealletnied, the notice was not the same, and that the
Order of that House bad net been complied with.—
Upon this statement of the circumstances he hoped
tisa,House would agree to the re-commitment of the
Bill.
Mr. S. WHITBREAD regretted that the Hon. Mem-
ber for Surrey had revived this Bill which was so oh-
noxions to almost all those who were interested with
respect to it. He was opposed to the principle of the
Bill, and be could not admit the statement of the Hon.
Member, that the word 1. increasing" was left out ac-
cidentally is the second and first notice. He Relieved
it was left out intentionally to deceive the major part
of the inhabitants of the parish. If this motion were
persisted in, he would take the sense of the House.
Mr. DENISON also opposed the recommitment
of the Bill. If the decisions of Committees were to
he overhauled in this way to what abuses would it
not lead
Mr. C. CALCRAFT repeated what be had said en
a former discussion on this Bill, that the number of
persons in the parish of Newington who desired the
enactment of this measure, was only one 57th part of
the population of the parish, and paid only one twenty-
second put of its burthens. The rental of the parish
was ts 1,0001. of which the supporters of this measure
paid 3,•11/01. He strongly deprecated the niotiun of
the lion. Member for Surrey.
Mr. ELLIS spoke in favour of the recommitment of
the Bill. He contended that this Bill did not come
within the description of the Standing Order of the
House. It was not for increasing the Puors'-rate.
Sir J. NEWPORT thought the irregularity in pies,
tints must prove fatal to the Bill.
Illr. PRICE supported the Bill, and was proceeding
to discuss the merits of the measure when,
Mr. BENNETT spoke to order. The report of the
committee turned entirely upon the Standing Order of
that House, and he appealed to the Speaker whether
the Hon. Oentlenian was in order in departing from
that question.
The SPEAKER observed, that as the Report mere-
ly adverted to the Standing Order of the House, it
would be as well to restrain the discussion within the
limits of that topic.
Mr. WYNNE thought there was no reason for the
parties to complain, because there was more information
contained in the notice on the church doors than in
that in the Newspapers. Ile thought the ewes:ion in-
volved in many intricacies, which called tor an cluci•
dation from the ('hair.
Sir W. BE CRESPIONY said a few words in a low
tone, which were inaudible in the Oallery.
The SPEAKER observed, in rising to give his opi-
nion on this question, in compliance with the appeal
made to him, that although he would at all times be
found ready to give his opinion, he did not approve of
the too frequent practice of appealing to the Chair for
its sentiments. All that he could state must lie with
reference to the practice cf Parliament Litherto. It
appeared to him that the question Was reduced to this
'.—whether stating more than the Standing Order of
that House required even an infringement of that I Irder
—or whether the surplusage tended to supply the essence
of the order. On this point lie thonglit the better
way would he to appoint a Select Committee to in-
quire into that single point, as to what construction
was to be placed upon the Standing Order referred to
respecting the notices on the church do•as, and whe-
ther that Order on the present occasion had been
broken. After stating so much, all be shouhl say as to
his own private opinion was, that if the surplusage did
destroy the Order, it was high time that it should by
known; 6.t since he hail been in the Chair, it had
been very frequent in notices of this description.
Mr. S. WOR 1.1.EY thought that the Committee
were not jostilied in saying that the Standing Orders
bad nut been complied with.
Mr. A BERC Itt IM BY thought that the House would
act very wi-ely in referring the Bill to a Select Com-
mittee as recommended by the Speaker ; at the same
time lie could not think the addition in question a
mere surplusage. The lion. Member concluded by
moving an amendment," That the Report of the Cum-
' suittee be referred to a Select Committee, for the pur-
pose suggested by the Chair."
The coestion having been put,
Mr. 11. SU MN ER said a few words in reply, after
which the Amendment was put and agreed to.
Mr. ELLIS presented Petitions from several indi-
viduals formerly attached to the Irish Court el Exche-
quer, hut who had hero discharged from their sito-
allot, in coirsequenee of a late Act of the Legislature,
and had therefrom antlered great loss, having ply,
chased their situations. The Petitioners prayed for
compensation fur their losses.
The I:HAM:ELIA/It of the EXCHEQU Eft sup-
ported these Petitions, and lie thought some inquiry was
due from the House into time case.
After some few observations from Sir J. New-roue
and Mr. M. A. 'EAT LOR, the Petitions were severally
read and ordered to be ',rioted. .
Mr. GRENFELL, with reference to an account
which bad been laid on the table of the quantity of
silver parchasedby the Mint, inquired of the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer, how it liapioested. that since
the year laid, the Mint hod purchased their silver on
taany occasions at prices considerably `'your Th.,