The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-15 00:00:00

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by swallowing all this in the first instance; and for
the future—alors comme alum"

Holland House, May 311 1112.
Mt Diu Lown,—l cadent sufficiently thank you for your
kind anxiety to procure an accurate statement of the words
spoken by me in the House of Lords. It is difficult to remem-
ber precise expressions so long after they were spoken ; but I am
sure I cannot be far wrong in stating the substance of what I
said, as follows !

Perhaps, however, in a tit of candour, the de-
fenders of the Court may admit, as a general princi-
ple, that such a separate power in the State, con-
trouling the regular Administration, or eves distinct
from it, ought not to be suffered to exist. They
will admit the principle ,and deny the application.—
They will deny that the continuance of Lords Herr-
TOAD and YARSIOLTU in their offices could he said
to constitute such a Separate power. We reply to
this from AUTHORITY ;—from the MODEST autho-
rity ;—from the lips of Lord YARMOUTH him-
self. We reply to it in the words pointedly and
diberately used by that Noble Lord in the House'
of Commons on Thursday, in communicating his
own and his father's intentions to resign, if Lords
Gm and GRENVILLE had been appointed to
ministerial situations.—ln talking ,of the offi-
ces held by his father and himself in the House-
hold,
his Lordship used these express and most
luminous words—" Offices which we received
from his Royal Highness ALONE !"--Most
of the Newspapers have omitted these remarkable
expressions in their reports of the debate ; but the
expressions were used, and were emphatically
marked by Isis Lordship when he pronounced them.
~.a-.What did he mean by them ?—What could he
mean, but that he. Eindlsielether owed their high'
offices to the Patsce, In contradistinction from
his Ministers ?—Now'what would have been the
case if Lord Gitrirlad consented to their continu-
ing?—Would they have owed their continuance to
him as the PRINCE'S Minister, or would they have
owed it to the PRINCE? and if they had owed it to
the PRINCE, and to the Pauscc ALONE, would
they, or would they not, have constituted that ver An order has been issued from the War-office for
Y all officers absent from the army in the Peninsula to
jifin their respective regiments immediately ; and this
description of power against which Lords GREY
and Gets:VILLE were contending; against which Lord order is issued in a limner that would imply that all
laves of absence will otherwise be cancelled.
CHATHA Ns, the Marquis of ROCKINGHAM, Mr. BURKE,
and Mr. Fox had contended before them ; against BONAPARTE'S guard of Mamelukes, which had
whiCh every principle of the British Constitution is teen ordered to join him, passed through Frankfort on
the 20th Mt.; precedetkby upwards of 60 oaggons
in direct hostility, namely, a Power within the Go- I pith frame-work for portable barracks.
vernment, separate from the responsible advisers of Another Meeting was held at Fife House, on Sa-
the Crown ! arday, respecting the Orders in Council, which was
But to return to the prejudices against Lord GILT. At ended by several of the Gentlemen who are iute-
If it be said that these prejudices were actually done acted, and who have been deputed from the country
6 give evidence before Parliament on the subject. It
away by the authority given to Lord WELLE•sLet
b, perhaps, right that we should observe, that in
the Ist of June to enter into a negotiation with him, our statement on Saturday of the interview at Lord
evidence of the direct contrary will be found in the LIVERPOOL'S the preceding Thursday, we were led
nature of the proposal then made to his Lordship and to a different expectation as to the result from that
Lord GRENVILLE. That proposal we feel ourselves which some of the parties entertain; and there Is a
aped that it is the intention of Ministers to substi-
relieved from the necessity of discussing, by the ac- lute, instead of the Orders in Council, some other
knowledgemeut of even Mr. WORTLEY himself—that regulations.
it teas inadmissable. Butin another sense, namely, The weight and near approach of the Loan con-
as evidence that the hostile feeling towards Lord tinue to depvss the Funds. Consols for opening,
GREY was not removed, it is too important, and in- at the beginning of the week, were 61 }, and left off
deed too conclusive to be passed over. Lord MOIRA, on Saturday at Mllt; 3 per Cents. Reduced fell in
proportion.--The lists of the respective Candidates
it is true, endeavours to explain it, but he explains hove not been tilled rp with the usual facility. We
only his own sense of it ; but when Lord Wri.x.ra- understand that, instead of having numerous applies-
LEY applies for permission from the PRINCE to el- tions, as heretofore, and being able to make a selec-
plain it, that permission is positively refused. What lion of the applicants, the preparers of lists have
does Lorl WELLESLEY expressly say upon this sub-
been obliged to apply for contributors.
, Mr. VASSITTART, in his conversation with the
jest ?—He says, in referring to Lord MOIRA'S ex-
Gentlemen who mean to bid for the Louis, told them
planatory letter, " The form of such a letter, either with great frankness, that he would not be tied up
from Lord MoutA or me, must have been P--'l"ie, from raising a farther Loan, if the necessities of the
as neither of us possessed any authority from the State should require it, before the last payment on
PRINCE REGENT to open any further communication the Loan now to be raised. Does not this glance at
with your Lordship or Lord GRESIVILLT ; A cIRCUM-the probability of a subsidy_ to some of the Northern
Powers?
STANCE WUICH I DEEPLY LAMENT, under a sanguine It was rumoured un Saturday, that the Govern-
;
, hope that additional explanation, sanctioned by au- meet of Ireland had been offered to Lord Mein*,
thority, might have removed the existing obstacles to and that his Lordship had weed sconsider the
an amicable arrangement." proposal, on an understarotingiliat the claims of the
Now we sill again ask any man capable of dig- Catholics should be takes' into consideration.
It is understood that Mr. Snettiesn is this day to
tinguishing truth from falsehood, whether if his
give notice of it motion, upon which he states that he
Royal Highness had found his mind relieved from the will satisfactorily justify himself from the turn which
prejudices instilled into it against Lord GREY, and has been given Co the Earl of YARMOUTH'S declara-
had been desirous, consequently, of settling an Ad- tion.
ministration, as soon as possible, on the principles Lord CHICHESTER, Postmaster-General, it is said,
expressed in the vote of the House of Commons, he succeeds Lord BATHeasT as President of the Board
of Trade.
would have had the smallest hesitation in authorising
Sir RICHARD STRACHAN is said to have relin-
either Lord MoinA or Lord WELLaSLEY, or indeed • quished the command he has so long held in the fleet,
both of them; to enter into those additional expla- under the orders of Admiral Youxo, off the Scheldt.
nations ? Lord COCHRANE had on Saturday a long inter-
Could any further testimony be wanting of the view with Lord MELvILLE, at the Admiralty.
Several merchants have arrived lately from Ostend
propriety of Lord Guise's conduct, and of the ma-
and Dunkirk, to take in a sufficient quantity of Co-
lignity as well as the falsehood of the charge uttered lonial produce, viz. 5k per ton to entitle them of a
sgenst Isles by Lord YARMOUTH, viz. that he had licence to load in France.
insisted on the changes in the Household merely for This morning the three following, unfortunate men
the sake of wounding the feeliags 'of the pasasea seime executed before the Debtors Door in Newgate,
REGENT—we shall find that testimony in Lord for forgery, viz. Thomas Flanagan, George Smith,
GREY'S own words, addressed to Lord MOIRA, on niVeit Del)]. They met their fate with great
fide,forti-
and died, seemingly, very peuitent.
this very point of pesonal feelings. " If, in cense- We have this last week experienced an enjoyment
quence of it" (the words spoken by him in Portia- I we thought not again to have been delighted with,
meat) " the PRINCE feels a strong personal objet- that of seeing our old acquaintance BRADaeRY, re-
tiou to me, I can only repeat what! have already ; stored to us again. In the more serious parts of
Pantomime his late sufferingsleve given a finish and
said to you, THAT I ASS PERFECTLY READY TO STAND
heartpathetic tone to the colouring that speaks more to the,
Ole
OUT O TUE WAY; that my friends shall have my full
concurreuce and approbation in taking Office with. I
are unwilling to intrude ou our Rerders a recapitala-
out me, and sot MOST CORDIAL SUPPORT in the Go. , tion of an event almost forgotten. But we are happy,
vernment of the Country, if their measures are di- in undeceiving them with respect to a report but_ too
vetted, as lam sure they must always be, by the current 44 that BRADBURY'S depaytttre for Ireland-
was occasioned by, overtures of a pecuniary eaters
principles on which we have acted together." made him by the family of the aggressor." On
Five Letters which passed between Lords MOIRA and Gorr,.
May SI, 1812. the contrary it was thought necessary not only for the
►My DEAR Loan,—A ju.t anxiety not to leave any thing sub- restoration of
.his health, but in compliar.ce. with
jest to misunderstanding. mast excuse are if I am troublesome a noble and disinterested suggestion of ifs own.
to yon. Since 1 quitted you, the necessity of being precise in In the ludicrous parts of pantomime, Isis peculiar
terms has occurred to me tied, although I Wok I cannot have forte, he is, as ever, the pleasing mimic of laughter-
Ini*ta/Lea you, I with to know If 4aw accurate to a hat I loving nature, chastely droll, ingeniously facetious.
prebend you to base said. I understood the position, stated by These transitions, from pathetic to comic, prove
700 as Wan be what 70u advanced is the Hume of Lords, him an invaluable acquisition to the Surrey Theatre,
to be this:—" That pledges bad bee° given is the Catholics, where he is engaged for a fortnight, for which mi.-
departuns from which rendered their present disappointment '
more galling s and that you said this in the bearing of persons lions the Marn-ger has .granted him a Benefit, which
who could contradict you If you were inaccurate.' Just say takes place on Thursday neat, when, in addition to
wartime (hare takes your expression correctly or Dot. his own attractions, Messrs. ELLisTos and RUSSELL,
/believe me, &c. rte.
The Sari grey. , (Biped) MOIR L will, no doubt, ensure him an overflowing house.

I was speaking on the subject of the Irish Catholics, aid par- 1 k
ticularly on the charge of intemperateronduct which had been i
made against them. I stated, that great allowances were to be. I
made for this, considering their repeated disappointments ; and 1
I cited, as Instances of these, the recal of Lord Fitz vrillitun, 1
and the Union. I then said, that the most distinct and authentic
pledges had been given to them, of the Prince's wish to reline
them from the disabilities of which they complained; that I j
spoke in the hearing of persons who would contradict me if what I
I said was unfounded, and who would, 1 was sure, support its
truth, if questioned ; that now, when the fulfilment of these •
pledges was confidently expected, to seean Administration con-
tinued
in power, which stood on the express principle of resist-
ing their claims, was, perhaps, the bitterest disappointment
they had yet experienced; and that It was not surprising if, un-
der such circumstances, they felt and acted in a way that all well
whiter, to the peace of the Empire must regret.
This I give as the substance, and by no means as a correct repe-
-1 tition of the particular expressions used by me; and this state- 1
I meat I can neither retract, nor endeavour to explain away.--
• If, in consequence of it, the Prince feels a strong personal ob-
jection to me, I can only repeat, what I have already said to
you, that I am perfectly ready to stand out of the way; that
Imy friends shall have my full concurrence and approbation in
taking office without me, and my most cordial support in the
1 Government of the country, if their measures are directed, as I
t am sure they must always be, by the principles on which we
have acted together.
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I write this from Lord Holland's in a great hurry, and in the
middle of dinner; but I was unwilling to defer, even for a•wi-
ante., to answer an enquiry, which I feel to be prompted by so
filendly a solicitude for me. I bare not Ilse means of taking a
copy of this letter. I shall therefore be obliged to you to let
me have one ; and l am sure, if, upon recollection, L shall think
i it necessary to add any thing to what I have now said, you will
it allow me an opportunity. of doing so.
lam, with the sincerest regard,
My dear Lord, your's very faidtfally,
GREY.

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MR. PERCEVAL.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE STATESMAN.
Sin,—The public virtue of the late Mr. PuttttrrAt)
so recently discovered by those very honest Gentle-

,men, who, when out of office, are always such warm
friends to the people; and to which your no less ho-

nest Common Council have borne consistent testi-

mony, after having designated him to his Royal
Highness the PRINCE REGENT as an enemy to the

country, cannot he better illustrated, than by his
having allowed a certain Banker, who, it will be re.
membered, became a bankrupt about two years
since, to hold, by deputy, the lucrative appointment
of Receiver-General of Taxes for a neighbouring
county, and to re-appoint him in form to the odic°
as soon as his certificate was signed. The failure of
that house, which occasioned other failures, en-
tailing ruin on many, very many families, is too fresh
in your memory for me to remind you of this
extraordinary bankruptcy ; but when you are told
that as yet only the trifling dividend of 6s. Bd. in the
pound has been paid, and that the final dividend
which is not yet paid, will not exceed 3s. or
i ss. 6d. in the pound, I am sure that you will-
I not be surprised at our having so many pub.
ilie defaulters, and that the people are plundered in.
every possible way ; what adds to • the scandal is,
r
that the Commissioners have recently been applied to
Ifor a warrant to distrain the goods and chattlesof this
1 RECEIVER GENERAL Of TAXES, for taxes, which
either he cannot, or will not pay, and who lives at
i his ease in the Isle of Wight. Lord. Mastasnutur

is said to have been the active agent of this Bank-
rupt Receiver-General, and to have obtained tilts
appointment for his creature from the late First
Lord of the Treasury ; all this may be true—l have
reason to believe the application was from Lord
MALMSBURT, but though shame and his Lordship
have been strangers to each other, long before he
left sc! 001, I do contend, that the indecency only of
the application belongs to Lord Mswassuay, wkite
the guilt of the appointment was exclusively Mr.
PERCEVAL'S, who well knew all the circumstances
of the Bankrupt's case, and ought not to have rein-
stated him in a place of trust. Yet, were all the iniqui-
ties of his Administration revealed, this would appear
but a trivial injury done to the morals and interests of
the nation.—Let us then hope that such men as your
Lord CLIVES—your House SuIINERS--alid yolk!
I FULLERS, though they well profited of the con-
sternation of the House of Commons at the moment.,
will not insult the common sense of the country by
again talking of the public virtues of a man, who
had as little claim to the compliment, as the damsels
who parade your Strand, have to chastity.
Salisbury. ?day 21. X. Y.
P. S. As to the scarcity of grain, it is all a hum.
bug; so far from it, do you produce money, and our
millers and farmers will produce plenty of wheat.--•
I understand there is a fitt over-grown miller near
Fawley, or Beaulieu, in Hampshire, who goes re-
gularly every fortnight to • yoar Corn-market, in
Mark-lane.-Lror what purpose does he take such
long journies? At whose expellee does he travel ?
Why does he not keep iu his mill, and why not
thrash out some of his many ricks, and send the mu
to market? Is it chat the price is not high enough to
please him ?

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