The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-12-14 00:00:00

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1110-CODIEDI Ili 3D of the Peace tsar any Itatute g nro. nowt?
to Magistrates by direct force to disperse a meet e,-.
Lord FOLKSTON:3 said, he was not surprised :Se
the debate had degenerated altogether into A di,....terge
spun particular cleuses. when he recollected tie it tte
Bill had, in the many stages through whirls it had gooey
been presented to the House in so inane different ,:::ses.
The measure had sow taken a form different lr-rc:a as its
other changes, for it wn.s called by an Bonita:oh!! lied
Learned Gentleman ( A': .Plunbett) an improveolt it cpsa
the spirit of the Cons.itutioo, instead of being Whet
other tiorourthle Gentlemen admitted it to be, na ic-
fraction upon the 4 ',lnstitution. resorted to from niece .
sits. A 11, cht lion. Gentleman (Mr. Robinson), a Mem-
ber of the C.,bit, t, had said, in speaking ofthe conduit
of the people, that this was no sudden spirit, bat had
been crowing up since the commencement of the !tend
1 Rev,Antion. V. by had Ministers permitted it to grew?
Was it nit strange to hear a Cabinet Minister assert that
the d troci i iti., spirit had been growing up for 90 long a
time, and chat its progress received no dwelt ? ne
denial given by the Solicitor General to the declaration
of an Ilan. and Learned Gentleman (Air. Penman,) that
a discussion had talten place in the Cabinet open the
toestioa of appointing a Censor, did not pr.stb .:e an
conviction on leis mind that such an eppointment wois
not under deliberation. It bad been, he loslierei, stated
upon good authorite, that such a di,• esel:m had :sea
plate. and judginglrom what W 33 agreed to in !Or %la.
Meet, the House unCht mt.. naturally :ante it for granted.
The lime. it was to be boiled. ?wild prise hetet, the
Bill was suffered to pass. But the Bill avinst the liberty
of the ,nre,s, his which securities were retro:red. was
worse ;ban any cenearsliip.--(Hear. bear !I—Would the
House pass such Bilk as those withtnt knowing sere
of the tiers..? of the red with *kick the.y •!Jatenu.A. ft
was a political 3,0.0!:1 that the ruling rower hal always
a tendency to de,• etistut but these Bills .e:.:: £:ertiv
to thrtabOlition of tit^ l'onstitution.
Mr. HGNEYWOOD said he had the li.taonr to repro,
sent a most loyal and independent county: awl from ail
he bad observed, he considered it a libel upon the people
to say that there existed amongst them an, distiffectioe.
Thee were not disaffected towards their King and ca„..
try.but they were indeed disaffected towards his Majes-
ty s Ministers: and if a feeling of that kind was crimi-
nal, he must ideall guilty to it himself. lie owed them
no allegiance, and would pay. them none. Os the cos.
trace, lie should evince his indepeosionce, by resisting
all their efforts at innnvatino.
Mr. IdEOltlig BANKES spoke it favour of the Pill.
After which a division took place, when there apt
peered—
For the Bill . .
Against

313

lisnr;ty . . ...... 218
The BM then read a third time and paased.

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Upott on' re-sdiuissioti to the galh•ry, we found Mr.
JOHN WHARTON upgn 1,,s legs, proposing a clause
for the admissicn of reperters to meetings. He made
some observations upon the necessity of having accurate
accounts of n hat t00..< ploce, the only means of else"-
ing which could he by exempting reporters from the
operation of the Bill.
CAST Lr.;;EACIII of ;eruct to the chime,. Iron
the ground that the Muse would be, by such enactment,
recognising a ho4y new to ohs:heaths.
Mr. TIERNEVzsid he ei evil bare no objevlon
limit the uutatter of vi.:4rtr:s a three or fear at eztlt

meeting.
Lord CASTLERF.AG7I tl.e Magistrates might,
if they pleased, admit revar:ere.
Mr. TIERNEY sail is c erident the Noble Lord
objected to the princip:e of reparting. .•
Imrd CASTLEREAtIif repeat'd that the Magistrbtea
had a discretionary power to admit reporters.
Mr. TI P.lt NET observed, that the apprehension of be-
ing charred with felony would probably prevent reporters
train making the ila:.•.gcrous experitnest of abiding by a
Magistrates nil!.
Me,W.SMITII raid. that if reporters were admitted by
connivance, it milli be easily irnagiaesi what repaesars
would be admit.e.l, and what refused adealtaism, the
power of the Mag;strateeirelng aintreskesary.
Mr. Alderman WAITIIMAN said, the osly way of
getting correct rerorts was be authorising sea of 'A-
valon. who were aenistorned to that employment. se
' attend.
Mr. J. P. GP. ANT stt.ted, :he Magistrates were pea
vented be the .t:t 1.-om permitting reporters to attend.
The clause wls negatived without a division.
Mr. HUM" ili•n IzIOVCII a modified elauset giving the
rejsort-rs a ri ch to attend public meeting, after a not:ceo
of 24 holm to the ..lagistrater.
A division took place upon this claw, when the now
bars were—
For the elan :e
Against it

Majority . 174
On oar return to the Gallery, Mr. HUTCHINSON
was on his legs, endeavouring to prove that there was
no circumstance to justify the extension of the Bill up
Ireland. He rested chiefly on the statement which the
Minister had made in the commeneemen. of the :•-e.sioe,
by which the complete tranquillity of Ireland was
admitted. He concluded by moving, that Ireland be
exempted from the operation of the Bill.
Mr. PLCNKET sail a few words in reply to the ob-
servations of the Mon. and Gallant Member (Mr. Hutch-
Leeson), and stated, that the extension of the Bill to low-
land was grounded upon the nature of the nil to be re-
pressed. A system of intimidation was diffuaiag itself
through the empire; and although Ireland was by se
mains a timid money. yet it was better to ward off the
evil by preventioa, than be obliged to follow it by
punishment.
Mr. R. MARTIN spoke against the motion, but em
called to order by the Speaker.
Mr. TIERNEY supported the vsetiert. and invested
to be informed why this measure Awed be extended
to Ireland any more than those which were resented to
in lor
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the mischief to be
checked at the present period was mach more dangerous
and systematic than that of 1817. and where it hail net
reached, it was yet necessary to show the deterniinatin
of Parliament by wholesome uteasorisof prerantion.
13;101.70HAM observed, that every crisis was sill
to be more alarming than all which had preceded it.
The ;lion. and Learned Member then 'facetiously re-
marked upon the facts wilielt had been stated in supped
of the ex.stence of a great ronspiracy in 1817, when**
Tower was to hay, bee.t sarnmoned; when a maguias
of powder was provided—when bullets were collative is
the foot of an old storking—and when the bridges were
to be attacked ard demolished by a conple of lathe,
. coachmen. He concludcd by giving his hearty soma
to the motion.
L The House then dirtied, when there appeared
For Mr. Hutchinson's notion . .
Against it

Majority for extending the Bill to Ire'.-n I
A Hon. Member, whose name we conl.l not lers•
moved that the werd copyholder should l7e included 11
the Bill on the same footing as freeholders, which, war
agreed to.
Mr. .1. P. GRANT moved an araeadgetat, 014E0
negatived without a division.