The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-07-04 00:00:00

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it the sanction of the House.- It was making an at-
tack which the House would Beier support.
Mr. BanUOtllln and the SOLICITOR-GSM/IAL MIMI.
dly rsplalued.
err. SCAULETT said his Honourable and Learned
Friend had thew for the purpose of ailing him up, at •
the same time tuak/ng statements of facts for the OWN
surpose of making them the foundation of his awn.
neat:. He never bad pledged himself to any opinion
in the legality of this Association. He admitted that
Ise did not consider the Society legal. Mach as. he
respected the talent of his Leatned Friend, be would
sot in compliment to that talent, 'awoke any opinion
he had once given. He thought this Association
slurped the functions of the Attorney-Osoeral. All
)ffences which affected the tranquillity of the State,
ihoeld be prosecuted by the Government of the coon-
Ty. It was the ditty of the Attorney-General to ex- i
!,rcise a discretion whether the parties were to be pro- 1
iecuted or not ; but an Association of men, when they i
undertook to prosecute, usurped that discretion, and
:heir proceedings were illegal and dangerous. For
hese reasons then, without at all considering the two- 1
ives of the individuals, be was of opinion the Condi- I
:etional Society in itself was unconstitutional, and
consequently illegal. He did not mean to say the
lodges of the laud had decided on the question, in ,
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teed he did not know hew they could obtain judg- • -
ment upon it. He considered it a Society for the pro- .
iecution of political offences which affect the safety
:Ind tranquillity of the State. Their prosecutions did .
sot emanate from persons aggrieved; bat they were
'referred to benefit the State. Every man bad an •
nterest in the preservation of the State, and the
saw did not require an Association to do that which •
belonged to the Government alone. Upon his
'olemu %tord, he believed 'one or more of the Prose-
nations that were undertaken by the Association, would
not have been undertaken by the Attornerpeneral.—
fhe Society for the Suppression of Vice might abuse
the power they used. In one instance Lord P.rskii•e
threw up his brief because the Society obstinately refusel
to be governed by his advice. All Societies prosecuting. ,„,
upon public principles were dangerous. lie did nut
wish to give any opinions on the law of the land in that
House, because legal opinions in that Assembly were -
Hot always impartial. lie did not think any case had
nerurred in the Kings Bench to support his Learnad
Friend's opinion. The tinie might arrive when the
Attorney-General would find he had not been sufficiently
instructed. lie felt this motion could not be supported,
and he expressed a hope that his Hon. Friend would nut
press it to a division, because he should feel obliged to
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vote *gales: it.
Mr. DENMAN explained.
Mr. WHITBREAD in reply, said nothing be hal
beard could convince him this Society ought to be vi
'lured. With respect to Benbow and Dolby, he would
say, if those persons were acquitted and they sued for
damages for a malicious prosecution they would fiiii
J. B. Sharp had been a bankrupt.
The question was then put and negatived without a
division. %
On the motion of Dr. PHI LLIMORE, a return of all
Slaves in the West Indies was ordered to be laid before
the House.
On the Order of the Day for the third reading of the
Lottery Bill,
Dr. LUSHINGTON took the opportunity of a question
of Supply being before the House, to ask a question re-
spectieg the Peace Preservation Act in Ireland. He
wished to bare some information as to the mode of its
being carried into effect. .
Mr. GRANT said a large portion of the inhabitants of i
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the proclaimed districts in Ireland bad earnestly inrreated , I
that this Act might be put in force in their neighbour-
hoods. The ordinary Police in Ireland was so defective
in prictice, owing to the supineness of those in whose
hands it was placed, that Government was obliged to
have recourse to an extraordinary Military Police.
Wherever Magistrates in Ireland had resolved to do their
duty actively, there was no occasion for such extraor-
divary severity.
Dr. LUSHINGTON hoped that some means might
'non be taken to put a stop to the unhappy state of I
Ireland. . I
Mr. BENNET called the attention of the House to 1
the *hocking evils arising out of the Lottery system ;
which the Society for the Suppression of Vice had ti
passed over without notice, while they were prosecuting
other gamblers.
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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he •
never made a shilling by the Lotteries. I- j
11 r. BROUGHAM thought it very unlikely that the , i;
Right Hon. Gentleman, or any one else, could make any
thing by the Lotteries, when a ticket which sold for 16/.
was not intrinsically worth lie.
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The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
On the third reading of the Appropriation Act.
Mr. CRERVEY took that opportunity of impress-
ing on the House the necessity of resisting corruption,
and takinir every pcssible pains to bring about *ease-
mical Reform in all departments of the State ; and •r
after all that had been done so successfully that Ses-
sion by his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) he was confident ~
that althongh no immediate effect wits produced from
his efforts, a great deal would be done next Session.
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The Muquess of LONDONDERRY congratulated
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the House on the improved sentiments of the. Hon.
Member, who acknowledged, in opposition to the opi-
nions
of others, that the Haase was capable of reform- I
ing all the abuses that were said to have prevailed in
it; and that great benefit was likely to arise from the
failure of all the motions of the lion. Member for
Aberdeen; and from this favourable %ley' which the ,
lion. Gentleman took of the proceedings of Parlia-
ment, it was to be hoped that they would all be per-
fog* twirdial next Session.
i• Mr. BIiOUGHAM was sure that if it was sot fur
.the ininisition of the ineeseres of Hoverouseat on his
side of the Houle no couressionaroalkiM ;node ps the .. i
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After
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Mr. Ilvicui "sox, Sir R. Ftsersex... nail*. alum • :
Abe Bill was read a third tin',~ god
The Tobacco Bill was reedit therat*ard.
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