The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-06-03 00:00:00

firq3tr(al Vadiamtnt.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-MONDAY

Thd Earl of GLSNdALL, in moving for some returns re-
turns respecting the number of rewards offered by the Irish
Government for the detection of criminals, the number
claimed, and the number of crimes committed within the last
year, drew the attention of their lordships to the state of in-
subordination prevailing in the northern division of the
county of Tipperary. He was fearful that what had fallen
from Lord Wharneliffe on Friday night would give rise to
misconstruction, and he had therefore to observe, that in
that part of Tipperary the disturbances could not be attri-
buted to bad landlords, for amongst those attacked were gen.
Omen admitted to be most exemplary in their conduct as
proprietors. The outrages were, in fact, to be attributed as
a conspiracy against the laws, against property, and against
social order ; and their prevalence was to be attributed to the
impunity with which crime was perpetrated. They could get
no evidence against criminals, or, if they did get witnesses to
come forward, they had to send them aftewards to Canada
or the Cape of Good Hope. Juries were also afraid to
do their duty, and all this evil was the result of the country
becoming deluged with trading politicians from the Corn
Exchange. There were certainly two Catholic priests who
had denounced the whole system from the altar, but they
did not do so until it had acquired such a head that it was
not unfair to attribute their exertions to a feeling of self-
preservation. There were doubtless very many most exem-
plary priests, but he wished to draw a marked line of distinc-
tion between them and the young Catholic priests their co-
adjutors, who were most anxiously engaged in the work of
agitation to which all this crime was to be attributed.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE said he had not alluded on Friday to
any particular class of landlords. He had only said that
there were landlords who, as individuals, abused the rights
ofyroperty. _ . .

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Earl FORTESQUE protested against the doctrine that agi-
tation necessarily lad to crime ; and he also protested against
the assumption that the conduct of the Catholic priests had
created all this crime by agitation. There were, of course,
in so large a body some indiscreet individuals, but he must
say, that from no body of men in Ireland had he received
more efficient assistance in the suppression of crime.

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The Marquis of CI. aNgICA.RDE suggested a discreet enforce-
ment of the Arms Act, as a most efficient means of checking
disturbance.
The Earl of GLIENGA.LL said that the priests, by their agi-
tation, had been the abettors of crime, and they knew they
were so.

Lord CLONCURRY said these outrages were the fruits of
former misgovernment. He lauded the conduct of the priests
and said that more of the magistracy of Ireland than of the
Catholic clergy had been convicted of impropriety and crime.
The Marquis of DOWNBRIBI defended the magistracy, and
regretted that such an imputation should have been cast upon
them as had been thrown out by Lord Cloncurry.
Lord LORTON said the priests to a rran were supporting
repeal of the union, and he would leave it to the house to say
if that was or was not agitation.
The Marquis of NORMANBY denied the fact.
The returns were then agreed to.
The Marquis of CLANitICARDE moved for a copy of the
regulations attending the execution of criminals at Newgate.
He considered the scenes said to have taken place to be most
disgraceful. (Cheers.) Agreed to.
Some bills on the table were forwarded a stage, and their
lordships adjourned.