The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-03-18 00:00:00

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-.-4.0.11 m.— firm at the same price, therefore the price essentially
Yesterday being St. Patrick's Day, the (enlace , depended on the quantity or corn grown by him.(enlace to ---.....--
the Benevolent Society of Si. Patrick, dined bgether OF LORDS, MAIM! 17, When they talked of enacting perminent laws on
at the City of London Tasern,the Duke of. Kent Presented Petitions from several ewes this subject, they ought also to tell the farmet at
... er arainst Ike Corn Bill,
what rate the po • pelation of the country las likely
in the Chair. UCESTER pre:ented a similar Petition
. . The cloth rensomd, NeefteibisDeeefite *so Witto increase, that he might know, from the quantity
Petition. from West- he shoOld grow, at what price be could afford it. Ile
4 Vile iiieg. 4104 woo mei" Wasilasek fa sileacti ,krearintee a siMilar
MN MUM, and Pelitioias Iran several .
and " Tbe PAWS* leer-suefies
from k°' y+ ece. the farmer in the Report of their Lordships' Coin.
Before the leettoast, the 'Doke of twit? ilitkowft,
at new donation of 100 ;initiate from the Prima; RICAN TREATY. * mittee, article by article, without•coming to the con-
ceiving the papers relating to the elusion that by far the greater part of the charges
which made the total amount of the sears given by his
lON sees in aid of the funds of the Society, heat, 'which he had alluded to on . would be lowered by' the diminution of the pike of
111061• • • obe necessary to the discussion : corn. The Petitioners were anxious to be admitted
4 The Queen and Royal Family," "The Navy," Americip,wished to ask the Noble ' to show that this protecting price of 80s. was not
and " The Army," were the nest toasts.. Oa the bad any objectiou to allowing a ; called for by the circumstances of the agricultural
production of these papers to take' class. They were of opinion that such a pike would
last being drunk, the Chairmen took Ofaallon to be. edest. of
the motion for the Address to be moved I raise the assize of bread to a height to which the
stow a higit tribute of praise an the military character eo, _.,
1? Iproposers of the Bill said it was not their intention
of the Irish nation.
The Duke of Kerry in rising to props,* "The ERPOOL conceived the pro. :to raise it. There was a prima facie evidence iri
Benevolent Society of St. Patrick," shortly described oy no memos necessary to the coo- i favour of the view taken by the Petitioners. If the
Treaty; but he had no objection to :price of the quartern Ida was 11 'd when wheat
the origin, sad progress of the leetituthm. helloed,4 •
ing relief to deserving objects, he asserted no regard the motion for an Address till I was at 635. a rise of G 2.7 per cent. on the actual price
eflllt paid to their religloe., ARNIM WON embolden* iof corn would produce a greater rise of the loaf
ESLEY thought the papers than had even been apprehended. It had been said as *godly *stilled to the bewriss.at tint Cbasity,--o
i that there was something vicious in the Assize Laws,, Ha adverted twat* brilliant progress of the Ova to the forming a correct
r ; and he wished the discus- ' and that an alteration in these laws would be .pier
Charity, the Soots' Corporation, and the Cale.
doilies Asylum, and remarked, there was that in the take place on the earliest day. ductive of a reduction in the price of bread. ' Rh
state his opinion on this question, was inclined to think that all regulations do subject
Irish blood which would not suffer the eons of Erin.
next would suit him as well as 'of Lids nature had only the effect of raising the prick
to be behind any nation is benettotence. Hearty six lof the commodity.. But whatever might be do tnnsilla
thousand pounds had been recently sibscrib:W foe seedier conversation between Lord , with relation to the assize, that alteration was
the Caledonian Asylum • and it this had bees done Grenville, and Marquis Welles- . equally applicable to the present, and an augmenteit
by Seotchmen, what might set be expected in NT- Ir.
,F, way I agreed on that the motion of Earl price. On this point they were peculiarly bound to
port of the Charity which it was the ohject of that! Grey tor the production et the papers should bear the Petitioners. His Lordship made some og-
-bleating to promote from Irishmen.
and -pined Address the earliest day after the recess,
come oa on Wednesday next, and the motion for an .t serrations relative to the comparative effect of the
The Children now entered the room
price of the quarters loaf open the wages of labour,
the company in procession. Two medals were, given ,
unit OF LONDON PETITION.
justice of the chips
upon which subject he contended the House htitUstio
to the boy and girl who had most distinguished' them. , Lord GRENVILLE said, previous to entering information. He maintained the
selves by their .progress in learning. 'This spectacle on the eider of the rimy, for going into a Committee of the Petitioners to be heard, as consume* elf
on the Corn Bill, he wished to call the attention of merchants, and manufacturers, and as seperinienct:
was very interesting, and the neat and healthful ap.
pearauce of the children gave universal satisfaction.
the house to the subject of the prayer of the Petition lug the general interest of the coalanerae of tit fo44'• Mr. SHERIDAN rose to propose the health of the
from the Corporation of the City of London, now tropolis, and moved that the Petislooerit b.' allowed
Royal Chairman. He lamented that from the ab- on their table, for liberty to be heard by Counsel to be heard by Canute; and to produce eitittence.
settee of those ,Noble characters he bad
expected . end evhisosee respecting that Bill. He would stated The LORD CH A NCELLON tally admlittne the
to see there, that this task had devolved upon him. shortly the grounds. on which he conceived their iFright of Petition, and ' trusting theperiod Weed
He noticed the exertions lately made in support of Lordships were undoubtedly bound to comply with "never arrive, when the fullest %betty thbetd not 66
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the Scotch charities, was sorry he could not an- the row of the Petition. The particular points on ' allowed to petitioners corning respectfltly to theik
nounce similar efforts on the present occasion; but which they wished to be heard, were not so much'i Lordships' Bar, could still not agree that the 14.4 .. •
trusted that the heavenly dews of benevolence would connected with the question of the general propriety , sent Petitioners (for whom, however, he enteitainiti
not fall less plentifully on the soft leaves of the of legidating oe a subject, on which it was impost& ; e• high respect) were, under the circomstaticee, yetis
Shamrock, than on the rough and hardy stem of the ble to legislate without mischief, as with the Injury I fled to be heard. If they beard the city of London,
Thistle. Of lute it had become a sort of fashion to which they in common with the rest of the commu. I they could not refuse to hear, in the same manner,
relieve foreigners in distress—he was far from wishing nit_
y would suffer from the particular provisions of ; the cite of 'Bristol, the town of Birmingham, or of
to oppose the operation of benevolence with respect to this 1301. In consequence of the precipitation with . Sheffield, or any other Petitioners spire the men.
them ; but while such exertions were making to re- which tits ligl bad been hurried through-its different! sore, all of whom were upon an equality, ill the
lieve distressed Germans and Russians, he wished it stages, kie felt daily and almost hourly the inconve. view of that House, and by adopting' such a prittei.
to be remembered there were distressed Englishmen Diem **own upon any' Individual who wished to pie legislation wouldl be rendered impracticable. The
and distressed Irishmen.—[4plause.]— He did not discharge iis deft -in, parliamest, either with satis. t measure wore the Hawn
wa.taite
of
general legisk.
wish the sterling ore of charity to be so beaten out factieoto litioseltr,or edvantagete the country. Those • • tion, not affecting particular interests as such,' et*. •
as to become like gold-beater's leaf to cover the . who wereeleslroos of making themselves masters of the Petitioners alleged no special Intetsist which.entio..:. '
world over. He wished for kindness less showy, but i
the subject,, found it absolutely impossible to denote Ittled them to be heard,- its .giving this opinion hoe'. :
more substantial. He concluded by proposing the .as much time and labour to the consideration of it as founded himself upontielead cmastmfuda Parlit4 1
health of " The Duke of Kent." i / i
- 1 many lot them were Inclined to give, and as was neb I meth, which was the best euppert both bf the Q..*
The toast was drunk withsreat applause, and Ms .
I cease/ to attain that object. In the short interval i remanent sod of thltilatisiAo,o"4ll•l"o"'"-r- --al
Royal Highness returned thanks.
,_...„,.,1,atie himstoeterstrelotty the sehJect of this Peti. i Eart-GREY,. admitting that the raise imp4ordieela
The _St!cretaix-sollartenli____ Frum„.. ' hit estiseritueed to aseerseio eii.fat its :ha 1 41114%410111•4104Orwelierfast harciguards itt the-eights
diaid -bi thils fen . - 'lllll.ll.lV 1.111? whether there with any general sales of their ref.. the Veoptei- was Smarms that the Petittossers • •
8601. 14s. 6d. . . • ' Lordships' House against allowing the Petitioners, I should not be excluded /rem a bearing of their ease,
The " Doke of %%testae:sill al Earl Motet" ' in a question of the nature of the present, to be heard • by any special- pleading upon the terms of their Poi:
were the next toasts,
by Counsel and evidence. As far as in such a shertition. • lie contended that they did allege a epetiarin.
46 Our meritorious libtals; the Scotch Corpora. period it was possible for him to enquire, he -had j truest in their Petition, and that they also referred
tion, the Welsh Cheek', the Caledonian Asylum ; come to the conclusion, that neither in the orders of Ito another
Petition Revisesly presented, upon which
sad prosperity to all tielsatioas that enlighten the .the Reuse, nor in their established practice, was I likewleothey were entitled to be heard. It wu no
ignorant and escaper the helpless"--followed.l there any rule against complying with the prayer I answer to them to Say, that if you heard them, ybu
Mr. SntemAn's bestial was afterwards drenk,and ,of the Petition. There were numerous instances I must' also hear Bristol, Birmingham, Liverpool,
he ackaow ledged,this honour in a second animated where the House had admitted Counsel and evidence' Newcastle, Sheffield, or any other Petitioners, They
speech. The Stewards sad Officers of the Society
L on matters like the present, of great public concern ' might betoldahat they had no new case to:allstee,
peat
were also given, and drunk with
applaale•—' Ito all classes, where particular individuals or classes ' end that .what they stated was already sufficiently be. •
request was made that the Duke of Kent would pre-' conceived that their separate interest's were unde. lefore that House, hut the City of London bad, he
side at the next festival, and to this his Royal High- ; niably affected by it. It would be singular, indeed, rvetended, alleged a special interest, particularly
nest assented. A variety of appropriate soap end ,to say, that if the Petitioners bad an interest exclu.lAth regard to the price of Bread under the Anise
glees were sung in the course of the evening by '
!sive of the rest of the community, the House would Law, if this measure passed, which fully entitled
Messrs. Incledon, Taylor, and other vocal performers. I hear them, but that if they had the misforttine to : them to be heard. '.. , •
The Royal Chairman did not leave the Mtn till a i apprehend danger to themselves, in common with The Earl of LIVERPOOL opposed the Motion,
quartet before twelve. other numerous classes of society, they should be in ' on the general principle thatapinst a measure of ge-
that case excluded from laying before the House such neral legislation, no Petitioners in respect of ptirti-
information as they were possessed of respecting, tbe : cuter interests, were entitled to be heard. There
danger which they apprehended from any measures'. was nothing iu this Bill which at all related to the
both to their own peculiar local interest, and the 1 local interests of the City of London, except the
general interests of the community. Surely the Pe.. clause saving their privileges. With regard to• the
titioners had a right, before the evil which they sp.' charge of precipitation in this measure, he contended
prehended was inflicted on them,. to be heard both 1 that none could justly lie? the subject bad been be.
with respect to the extent of the evil, and the 0pe.•,1 fore Parliament for three years, two Reports of the
ration which it was likely to produce on the corn. I Commons were on the table, end one of the Lords,
morce and manuftetures of the country. It would not' and if they were to so on for ten years, so far as
be maintained that the numerous Petitioners to Par. I evidence went, they would come no nearer to a con.
Bement oo this subject were all totally incapable of : elusion. He had the greatest respect for the Corpo.
forming any judgment on the subject. It would be , ration of the first City in the United Kingdom, but
mina very false compliment. to the wisdom of Par. they were in the view of that House upon an equality
Hamm; if he were to say that great light had not. with other Petitioners, and he could not agree that
been thrown on the question by many of the pobli. they, any more than others, were entitled to be
cations which bad appeared; and had their Lord. heard against this measure of general legislation.
ships proceeded to legislate at the time when the mei. 1 Lord' ST. JOHN opposed the Motion, . on' the
sore wasfiret proposed, them was no man, either I ground that ample time had been given to produce
among Its supporters or opposers, who would, not , evidence upon this question, and that the Petitioners
bare come to the decision with much less information ; were now out of time. • His Lordship teak 'the op.
than be now possessed. He would now state the partlin. i portuntty of delivering Ms sentiments open the Bill,
tar points on which the Corporation of the City of , respecting which he had heard nothing to change his
London conceived they could afford much information 1 opinions, contending that it was a measure of general
to the House. The first point was with ;aspect to the ; benefit apt! &dvantagel, by, the encouragement it 'ar.
operation of laws similar to the present en' the price forded to agriceOurel‘ancl the raising& ;apply within
of corn, and whether the discouragement 'of im. ' ourselves.
porttation, the consequence of such laws, did or did , Earl prwt ;am* flew wordsinexplinetiou.
not produce an inconvenience to the metropolis.-it • The Earlof HARDWICRE etated, 'that the
had, use, said that the system adopted' doriUg the' Committee of the last Session had taken great" pains
firsthalt of the last century, was productive of no ito procure evidence on the, part of the Petitioners,
inceavenieace to the consumers. On this subject the : though unsuccessfully. '
PelitiOnera offered to state facts, and the period was I TheEavi of Sgio•ElßX.said, that if they suffered
ant 0 remote but that facts could be adduced. , 'But I mire' its MHOS iffel, lecotild not fail to ri.ie again to
when they came to more recent periods, to what :an exorbitant height. A •tety Considerable tit tof .
could they resort but evidence, if they wished to ass i.thp,lend of the country being thrown out of cultism.
certain what was the interference of the law on the , tiosi by the want of encouragement to' the Ja.riaer,
natural price of corn in this country? The ems. there would necessarily be a great deficiency to the
sire dearness for a number of years back had either prOduce—such a deficiency indeed as could not be
besa, or not been, an inconvieuce. If it had been , compensated by any importation—the quantity of
an inconvenience, then it became proper to ascertain corn imported into this country in the years of great.
by evidence whether that inconvenience had resulted, est scarcity was not more than ten minimise( quarter.
from the check given to importation by the
,law, or •of wheat, which was only a tenth of the quantity
the want of sufficient encouragement to agriculture ?..consunied-;-perheps not more than three or fora
The ueutt,point was the price at which grain could be weeks consumption.
grown. The mode which had been adopted of asking . Earl STANHOPE rise to order/ and !wiped the
half a dozen of Interested Individuals to give an opt. Noble Lord to consider the question beteine the
.nion on this subject, and then 'biking the average of House.
these opinions, was certainly highly objectiohable.— I The LORD CHANCELLOR-said that if the No.
No firmer could growirsla on two fields on the same Me Earl bad wished to confine the House strictly to

1414114 L INTELLIGENCIL

Den, MARCH 17.-IThe flaring, Emma, sad
.Admiral Berkeky, have sailed for the South Seas
and the whole of the outward.boond ships left in ths;
Downs have sailed to the westward, except the Es*
Indiamen, they still remain.
PORTSMOUTH, MARRA" 17.—Arrived his Majesty's
ship Tyrian, from the westward.; nicker, Bora,
from Italifix, in I 7 days—.parted from the convoy
(9 sail) two days since.—Sailed his Majesty' ship
Misktoe, for Lynn.
PLYMOUTH, MARCH O.—Arrived the brig Sm.
sannah, Cain, from Mepsiba, bound to Liverpool,
last from Gibraltar, which she left Feb. 25. She is
one of the Paulina's convoy.
FALMOUTH, MARCH 15.—Arrived the Nynsishen
frigate, Capt. Smith, from a cruise ; and the Jenny,
Lames, from Ross for Lisbon, she is last from Cork,
from whence she sailed about a week since, with
about '25 sail, under convoy of his Majesty's ship
Ethalion, and parted from them the day after in a
gale of wind. Capt. Elmer thinks the fleet must
have bore up for Brest. The gale was so severe that
he was obliged to throw part of his cargo overboard.
The vessel is much damaged.
hp,'" HAnwscrt, MARCH 17.—Arrived the 411bion packet
with a Mail from Gottenborgh.
ToRBAY,.lll4gcu his Majesty's ships
Scamander and Pilot for Plymouth:

The Leo, American privateer, is taken by the
Tigrc frigate, and arrived at Cork the 13th inst.

A meteorological phenomenon, of rather rare oc-
currence, was observed at Shempston, in the parish
of Daus, North Britain, on the lath ult. At about
50 minutes past eight, P.M. the snoop having then
about 10 degrees of apparent altitstde, a most beauti-
ful and splendid lunar iris was seen in the western he.
misphere. A slight shower of rain, which philoso-
phers account necessary to the production of this
phenomenon, was falling ar the time. The colours,
as exhibited in the solar bow, or in the prismatic
spectrum, were not visible here, or but very faintly
so. This ntagniacent arch, on the contrary, appeared
of a soft livery white throughout its whole eatent,
having a slight tint of rosset on its westpru edge, or
that opposite to the moon. Its edges were, in every
put) clear and diglactly dermied,

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