The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-04 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

Dill you correspond with your sister sister did
not answer my letters.
Du you know the hand writing of the Princess Of
Wales ?
14 this letter the hand-writing of the Princess of
Wales ?--It resembles it very mown.
lia‘e you eves Anna her writiog ?—Ofteo.
I don't ask con to smear positively, but du yea think
It is the liatitl:st riling ? I think it is.
You told us ItergAttli was present when you wrote
that letter?—Yes.
Can you mention any conversation that took plate
hetween Iterganti and the Princess?—Bergami said I
sosetstiistseil that the Princess of Wales wits in love with
Sacelti.otol liergami accused we of having passed a eight
in the corridor with iambi I said my sister was present-
that she might tie. lore I had slept with her.
Was your sister o.ore ?—Yes.
hail yon slept with her?—Yes.
!tow long alter the Queen arrived in England were
you examined by Mr. Powell ?—1 don't know.
Was it after vou heard of the meeting of the House of
Lords ?•—I adult it was after.
Itefore you took that oath, w-re the depositions read
to von ?—:l read then myself.
' to go hack for a aliment t 3 Yo t said you
saw lterganti in the small corridor in his shirt, and you
went out ?—Yes.
Did you observe any thing done after you went owl ?
--Yes; I saw than Shutt the door.
On the side yon went out, ur on the side of the **wi-
dow ?—lt etas stint inside.
When yin' say it was shut, whether was It locked?-1
heard them 0%! a :nen to the key.
The Interpreter tor the Queen here stag, that an in-
correct int. ripretitt;im bad been given in t 's as in a for-
lOW instance ; the wotsl was on jirtseuil, which did sot
mean Mt, eluxe •1 the .1...,r, but that the deter ,„„ekmed.
The Vrcriels word• we •0 set dawn.
Did you usake the IL•as while you were :1 Naples?—
Yes.
Who made them after that time ?—Annette Prisimne.
Dill you cont.hlue :o make the beds Itteg ?—.lbout 3
Istmobs.
You list r MyllWei door opening to a
corridor. was the the sm.:ll interior corridor ; another
corridor ?—.tuother.
Private or iodine coreitlor P—lt was through that
which we passed to ;.:t./ !brought to her Royal Ilighoess's
moon.
Now when yon came here, yon were called Colombia,
why wire you so called —Tto be Inure tranquil.
Since yonr arrit 11 in Ettgland, have von seen Hiero-
nymus !—I have ‘rou him at iteafl-fttiMt.Where ere
Did he call open you to ice its the faille morning ?
Yes.
I low long was that artil:;—Sevres weeks.
those the only times he millet, on von ?-IYII.
Yon have been asked abort Count Silavani. Now
when the servants left losr Royal highness, did the
2i,e the servAnts slits ratters
Mr. Boot an tvi objecoed to this examination. This ques-
tion did not arise out ..r i.'s
A Pi TW-114) you kn..% *is% Itieronynootts 'salted upon
)0.1 in Dean-street !—I ilo not lam/w, because he spoke only
to tin sister.
Was she in Reim-street !—Yes.
Br a severe and very able cross-rvainination. 014 :tied
by Lords they, Rockingham. Derhy and Rib bee 40,
the fonowiag. eviiirtree was ..lieitea from th, wtAIM
She had salt! the Princess was surrounded wt.. sobs
bemuse the Princess told her so. She did receive
letter, to which she i.. 1.1 alltoleal• but the latter par: •
helmet was a cloohlr cm/cadre to her sister. lie 'llit
part was ambled, nut in order to say shy thing that was.
false, bat to express herself to her sister, as that t
might understood ; because she coed ass well..
She wished her sister to nnilerstand, that if she mere
charged by the Prioress, she nonld haws a place fur her
in England. By mentioning money, she usceat to say
that she could pay her sister's expellees to Roseland,
because she hall always said, that if her sister welt dis-
charged, she would par her expellees. She did not
know, whether to make her sister understood that it
was necessary to ear, that the Princess was sormittadrel
try spies, hunt she ilia it to make her natierstund. She
wrote in this mysterious manner, became her letters
were intereepted. Slit Was motions fur leer sister to re-
main with the Princess, notwithstanding what took
place at the Balls, at the Berlina, fur &particular reason
Ile never saw any spies in the house of the
Princess, the olie knew to to spies. It was was an
was in Switzerland that somebody wrote to vas'
and said I might come to England, sad get •
good place. In answer to the emesticias if Say WWI%
told her that by coming to England on this bust
should receive a large fortune in a short times oes.
plied," It was not what was written to tie,
allu.• I matiethat my sister might nnderstaid."
such offer was made; and she thonght she was dolt*
no ham to any one by WritinZll4) to her stater, Atoliert-
lets, when the Princess told her to take her bed a go,
on itergand entering the room, she does not knee
whether the Prioress had on the large habit she had
described. She had seen her lay on the bed with
it during the day, and dill not gagelloa awls
to take of any of her Royal Hig11011•11 sirens
night. The witness slid not has , whether Es
Princess had taken her hallo, on the eseedelieke Itad
described, when she went into NM ther...l•ol
seeing any linen about ; but the Maness Ay
hail bathed, and recomaten.lell witness to defile:Mils
it was very hot. tier letters being intercepted
cause of her writing in so mysterions a mammy. /11811101111
recollect whether slue gave any elne to her sister twlit&
it,,w slur was to nntlerstand this enysterimas welting. Met
when she set out, they concerted togetiser tome marks that
no one else might understand. She believed that her let-
ters wonld be first read by Mr. Bergsma, soctirPritsessaL
She did nol believe that the Princess or 111411111101 kdeltt
the name oT the Swiss persons meationethi the
Her reason furjupposing that her !Alen trillirliat
tereepted was, that a letter of her sisters had beet
al and altered. When she saw the Princess awls% mot
of Bergatni's room at Catania with a pillow soave
arm, as far as she recollects, her sister teas erith
in the saute room. They lead not left the room
=truing. It was two hours after they had boa web*
when she saw Bergand walking towards fire Pelaemeti
bed-room, at Naples, in his shirt, she was fear tiet *MO
pares from the Princess's door; Berge& it& NO 11114
or eleven paces; she could not say precisey. Oil=
the politer', during the voyage from Jatli. in
every other night through t
saw he %lining cabin. she
as
bed there; but never Iterganal there on
voyage, because others slept there. The witness here
withdrew.
Marquis of lbs•ssonstsrs—Haviog stated theta
agreed with your sister upon a particular math to
tate and conceal your eorrespoodesee, cal yort
any styli mark in the letter which bas been est
?
letter was fielded to the witness.)
Lord RSDESPALS said that it might Ir -00,74
refer the witness to the evidence she Ira alteidr.
regardirl the uteri:.
The witness here begged leave to tellies tens
sent for about ten minutes. On her Willis's,
posy regardintr the private loark is her letters_
over to her. The Marquis of Lansdowne pea the
lag questions upon it
Did you ever receive a letter from tour slatereamtareim
the mark on which you had agreed for year kiwi swoop
pun knee?—

She stated,that she did receive one letter from her sister,
to which the mark was not affixed. She recollects that
she did state, in a letter to her, that she did receive an
ationymons letter. offering her to become a KOVellifSil it
Loudon ; that it was written without a signature ; does
not recollect in what language it was written, by whom it
was delivered, from where it was dated, from whom it
was addressed. Nor does else recollect whether she an-
swered it. She does not recollect whether there was any
thing contained in that letter except the proposal to come
to England. She has not that letter here, nor does not I
think she has it at Colombia, because she burned all her
letters before she came here. She said it was not that ano-
nirnous letter that induces' her to come to England, for
she had some thoughts of it before. Does not know how 1
many letters she received from her sister. She does !
not recollect when she heard the Princess and Beeped
talking in different cabins what they said, nor whether
Bergatni said any thing of her on that occasion. She
only heard him laughing.
Here there were cries of " withdraw," but Lord PAL-
Norm following up the questions about the bath-room,
begged to ask the witness whether if there had been any
wet linen in that room, it would have been her business
to take it away?—!t would have been either my business
or my sister's.
When you went into the bath-room, did von see any
marlotof the Princess having used the hath.?-1 du nut
recollect; I only saw the bath.
Now, with respect to the double entendre, about which
we have had such elaborate explanation, was you sincere
1 in the praises which your letter contains upon the Prin.
I ens, at the time you wrote that letter, or whether was
l the whole of that letter meant as double entendre, or
were only particular passages so meant ?—There were
only some passages meant as double eutendre; at the
time I wrote that letter, I was undoubtedly very much
attached to the Princess, and I therefore was ready to
acknowledge and praise her for her goodness, particu-
larly to myself.
Then von were sincere in those parts which spoke in
praise of the Princess ?—ln speaking of her personal
qualities, of her goodness and patience, I certainly \Was
sincere.
Dill this letter contain any praises bestowed upon the
Princess in which von were not sincere ?—I its. not
recollect whether all were sincere, hut the greater part
was.
By Bari DAP si.rv—Yon have said that you were much
attached to the Princess at the time you wrote this let-
ter—When did that at rudiment cease ?—That enactment
ceased when I beard that her Royal Highness had said
several things against me. It ceased, I mean, when I
heard that several things had been said against use in
the home of the Princess.
Whether it was in consequence of the cessation of this
attachment that the witness was here to-slay to give her
evidence ?—(Cries of order, order !J.
The quo stion was repeated and the witness answered
....6. No.
, What was the witnesses motive then ?--(Cries of or-
-1 der, order n.
What indwell von to come here?-1 was asked to
come, to declare the truth. .
Hy whom was stir so Asked ?—1 was asked by Mr.
Sacrlsi to give evidence to the Commission.
Hy a Peer whom we slid not know—You spoke of the
coverlet upon the large hell at Naples, do you recoiled,
the colour of that coverlet ?—Yes. 1
Ulna colour ! W !site.
Are you smite sure. I speak of the outward coverlet
cad mot the sheet ?—That coverlet was white.
haring the voyage to Jaffa on board the pelocre, was
the consolinaication between the deck and tent open or
timed during the night: —lt was sometimes open tinting
the shot *um the tipper deck.
By ike Esti of dloatom—Was it fresh or salt staler '
of which the bath was made ?—I do nut know whether
it was fresh or salt.
lk another Peer—Was the r nication between
the deck and the tent always open during the mighti--.. I
I cannot recollect whether it was open or not.
Was it sometimes closed ?—i do nut recollect Oilier ,
i
it was open or closed. ,
Ilerethere were lona cries of " Withdraw, withdraw,"
and at 5 minutes after 4 ts'elsock the House adjourned. '

The following is a list of the Contents and Non.
Contents on the Earl of ffarrowby's motion, August
til, to allow the Counsel of the Quern the liberty of
cross-examination of witnesses now and hereafter
CONTENTS.

Anctintstior —York.
Dynes—lilencestrr. Wellington, Northumberland.
Oarsit, Portland, Brandon, Devonshire, Bedford, St.
nion's, Beaufort, Grafton.
Illanartsses--Angleasea, Headfort, Cornwallis, Salk
Laasdowne, Qneensgerry.
RAlLS—lilesieto ,n Beauchamp, Morley, Vet-dark
Harowood, Mulgrare, Grey, Koss, Kosslytt. Dm.
noughmone, Mayo, Longford. Kingston, Westmorland.
Ha-rowby, Liverpool, Cimarron, Fortescue, Grosvenor,
Downshire, Flathnrst, Delmar, ilehester, Darlington,
Hardwicke, Buckinghamshire, Warwick.
Harrington, Potufret, Stanhope, Cowper, Oxford, Knee.
beery, Hakim., Jersey, Coventry, Albemarle, Car&
pa; Essex, Thane, Sukolk, Ilmstingtlon, Derby.
Viscounts-14kt.. Anson, Melville, Duncan, Hood,
',Piaster, Torrington, Bolingbroke, Hereford.
Lon os —Prowl hoe Aboynr, Cotubermere, Hope-
Wm, Gambier, limaalbane, Erskine, Alvanky,
Clare, Bolton, Carringtou, tiwydir, Dowse, Connote..,
Yarborough, Modes, Cliiden, Ancklaud, Grenville.
Hoge, Huntley, Berwick, Walsiughoin, Voles, Hawke,
Aron, Dori. Holland, Grantham, king. Besberoegh,
bliQleton, Belbaren, Darnley, Say and Sek, Howard,
De la &melt. Deere, Audky.
Bianopi—Gork, Orford, tiloocester, Peterboroothe
44 Sf.Daild'Orar' stet.
121 t No nos, Nl—Msjority 15.
TENIII.
'y, Tonto.
Ise 1;ord Chancel...
Iknia—liork, Clarence, Richmond. Newcastle, Rat-
AIQVIIIN its er,Co rsyngiums.Cassaims.Thowsomi,
Stafford, Lothian, Tweedsie, Nseibiusclurzwiavm
'
Esaus--Hrsdfsed, St. Clerwain's.
worth, Cathcart, Lonsdafe Orford, Harms, iimpart.
Nelson, Paris, Limerick, Chichester, Crown,
Caledon, Mansfield. Dirky,
f;roare, thalweg toi.etres, ), Att,letvnis Dartmoo
Sbeß4Cot
Whmitliera. Stamford, ihmalaigh,
Sdiscornbe. litrorw (Atiol). kesarity. Chatham,
MI% Sorrensont. MMannah, Ashliamshous.
Vissoneft—lnesetb, fleriat.de, Uww., Oyenm
arogglialitasritt.,_ _ teat
stttsttz
LANs. Northwidi, illoplior. Rolle. Caltitergiswea
Uraisnray, Mornay. Itllllll. erten, Douglas,
Ammer. Kenya), lisstyn, Smarm, Nor.
=rScandal., 'spit!, Cavallo. tiny. *allows,
4Aintri, ft-

NON.
• a. aim —ll`mmtai

THE QUEEN.

STATSSMAN,OPFICI, THIS DAY, The eliact.
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HOUSE OF LORDi. MONDAY, Bert. 4.
(SIXTEENTH DAT.)

Prayers were read by the Bishop of Wrvcutimut,,
after which the Pars were called over. The defaulters
were Lords Curteon and litissonotun.
Counsel were then called in.
Lowielsi Oa!Hsi was then called as a witless 184
sworn.

Are you an Italian ?--Yes.
What are you ?—Amason.
Did you work at the Villa d'Este ?—Yes.
Fur how long 7—About 15 days.
Were you employed at the house of the gardener
Yes.

What is h:s name ?—{We could not distinguish the
name.)
Was he the agent or factor of the Princess of Wales?
—Yes.
- - -

Do you recollect ow morning being etuployei
make a corridor i—Yee.

On what day ?-1 deal remember.
State what occurred ?-1 bad been told the eight bp,
fore to get the worlds' materials ready. 1 waited tetii
I sine o'clock ; the materials were not sent me as goy
were promised, and as 1 bed several rues waiting i west
to the Villa.
How far is the house at which yor were workiag frets
the Villa d'F.ste ?—About three gumebots or foar hsa.
dred and fifty paces.
' When you got to the Villa d'Este, did yea eosin
for the garden:—Yes.
Where that you go ?—Up stairs.
Dial you go into a large room 1-1 west into a rise
but it was not large.
How long did you wilt then, only a ammeat?-4
orned the door, and shut it again soon afterwards.
Wl/0 did von see then?—The Baron Bergami aid the
Princess were bolls sitting.
Upon what were they sitting ?—i saw his arm mead
' the neck of the Princess.
Upos what were they sitting f—Whetber it was •
sofa, an easy chair, or a small bed, 1 deal haw.
liow was the Princess dreessal?-Bhe bad ea a mom
ing dress.
In what position was she ?--Mitting.
Was any one else in the room besides Bergsma aid
lair Royal Nighttime ?—No ; at least I taw lb me else.
What did Bergamo do when you weal hue the mem?
—He took away his arm from the neck d the hitters,
got up, and said, " what J. you do here you dog."
The Interpreter explained that the of tb,
witness Was a strange one, as it sign "lon of a
dug."—(l laugh.)
What did you say in answer ?—I said "Yoa snot et-
tulle sue Signer Baron, for l came here to leek fee the
gardener, and 1 waist to get the materials for toy work."
Did Ise say any thin in reply 2—Yes: he said "that
was not the artrunest of the gersleser. '
Did yon ever afterwards see the Princess sad Bergami
together ?-1 did.
Where did yes see them ?—Deseending the stairs sea
• in arm ?
Did yon see any thin else ?—No, on Oat masks I
• merely saw them deseemdlog arm In are.
Dial you see them together at any other time?—Teri
1 sme them thee. or fear dates, the Princess Mingo&
anas.
Was &renal walk* or riding ?—Wandeg mar lie
hissers.
How were his heeds emplegal ?—Deer they were be.
hind the back of the Mimeses supportiog he auk m
another occasion, his band was el iter thigh.
Was any other person there?—Not bat they woe fir
fheynblie walk in the day time.
dross-examimed by Ille:lnwirat.i.--Wbe did rake
Warns what yea knew shoat this?—The Ike time
esinstioneil it wee to the sea of the Vectors, Agnes.
Did you ge to Milan to be examined ?—Yes.
Who applied to yoa to go there ?--(The sweet uses
not audiblebelow the bar.)
When was that?—ls the year 1917 or 1819.1 doet
know the exact time.
Did you go with him?—Yes.
Who did you me?-1 treat to the helmet Yierstartl.
What did he do ?—He elegised me.
Was any one present ?—Three mere permits.
Who were dire—They told use elm was as Adm.
eate, another a (Aimed, sad the other 1 sisal knew.
Was the Advocate an lloglish Advocate 9--Yes.
Was the Colonel. Ul. Brows ?—Yes.
How Meg did yea stay at Miler?—Pest days aid a
half.
Were you enansiaed every day ?-1 was esmained
the third slay, breasts. there sere other witticism wait-
ing before me.
IVhat did you receive ?-1 received tee Hetes per day
for repenter.
Will von swear. you dial not receive ley more for piag
to Main /-1 will.
When were yea first applied to to come to Iteglasti
—Last winter.
Who applied te yes ?—The same penes she applied
to me from Viessearti.
Did yes see Viesseerti &guilts Wen yea mat t•
Ka hard ?—Yes.
any a Was gTeCNIMPT
- have Ina& ea agreet alusideenteltilt"ltamesesiligm babregtesagialirmires?
W
periled:as
your ripeness ?—They artier the espeeres of
aszliTing.
a—a

atre , bit

tuil'iiioir Au Now it is called.
Are there sot several other whams.. trio. yes?—lrest
I have sees several of thorn.
Is Thegolore Meleeel owe of theist—Teo.
Do yos harm itlis?—l dare only Immo his As* Pi
snivel Isere.
la the rooms of which you have Mee speakko rro
there sot several doors P—Tes.
AS what tilts *Nap was it yes west late the roes?
+Between half-past massed sieves.
Were then any other sorbets. shoat the place t-44.
they were at the buildiag.
What part of the you was *l.?-1t was is 11111 et
1811.
The goodies was repeated ?-..The ead id September
or the Vegissi air of October.
14-ezmaisal by st. FOUL
TOG told as yolk were to reeds, Ivo lines per day for
'spate. Do yos rewire Gist tzar?-Nei.
Whore did y. a ilrst lad is ?
This Iseltion was objesled to Dr. Tunas.
~ The Arroaxar-listritaat. he the poplitt
erilax Use 4,‘. - " 'J • I
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4,lintss, Dr Clillast Asirmir.—M Dover. ,
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Lowies. saw Oho aril of Besiand mewl the 110 tsessis's mai, I
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