The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-02-20 00:00:00

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and injury bad 'been done to that Gallant Officer, by his
having been displaced—turned out of office to make reom
for ajunior.—(hear!)--That Gallant Officer had gained
his office by his talents and services; and yet, after so
many years of attention, he was displaced to make room
for a voting man. The commission had recommended
that the office should be recast, yet that had not takbn
/dare ; and notwithstanding that recommendaion of the
commission, no reasons had that night been brought for-
ward by the advocates for the office, as it stood, for its
eontineance. There had been lectures given to him for
'ravine vet Men a letter, as if to make out a case ; but he
disclaimed any such ides. He would allow. the Right
Hon. gent. all the advantages derivable from his having
dories so; but he could assure the 11.'1m:-that he had not dealt
with those le tors As to the ottice,for the abolition of which
he moved, it could not be said to he usi fel, since even ti e
Commission of Inquiry had denied that; nay it was use-
less, noise than u.eless, for the duties of it could not be
performed without rendering the services of the Dirrte of
Wellingtou,as Master-General, unneeespary. If it was to
he retained, it became a mere sinecure,lOr the Lieutenant
General had no duties to perform when the Master-Gene-
ral was present. As to the duties which the Hen. Grille-
man had contended were so leborious, and of which he
had given so great a detail, they were not grereer than
those of other men. The lion. Member had reasoned
upon his labours as if he was in Turkey, where he would
lie under the necessity of performing there duties atthe
risk of his head. The number of clerics and of uselese
offices had increased every year, and rendered the expel'.
&tore of the country heavy, while it prevented the
p ossibilityot reducing tt. Thusfor managing the barracks
the public had to pay 18,0001., for 100 heirs. ks in England
and in Ireland there were also 100 barracks. Ira
fact,he complained that the whole country was a barrack
one, and so much the worse for the Itinv,dom. The
Commissariat bad its 150 Clerks, and the department se
whose head was the Hon. Member opposite, had the r
proportionate number of Clerks, ill costing the country
immense Wits of money. it wss not altogether of the
numier of Cl-rks he comp!aiued ; no, but of their be-
ruse ; for some of those clerks had their 7001. 800/.
and 9eol. per annum. As to tin, labours which the Iten.
tientleutte had attribute.) to those offices, they
were through the business being sifted throngta
various officer, all reduced to a nut-shell before they
came before those persons of whose labours the Bon.
Member ha I boasted so mech. This was the first ran-.
don for retrenchment, awl he regretted the reception
welch it hal 'net with. Of the Foreign Policy whiOt
lot lately been adopted, he could not hat cononstoldil ;
ir it lrsoke.i Ike the old English policy; he only re.
greet II that it had not been adopted soouer. It IVOO,I
ive been useful to the kingdom if it had. He was will-
ing to give Iris a?plaorse to the Eight Hon. Secretary for
!ravine itt:o.rte 1 it ; but when he sew the Hight Hon. Se-
cretary, instead of becoming the able advocate of the peo-
ple's rights, was still the ready defender of abuses, ins
could not but regret to NC, that the British spirit veld,• a
seemed to animate the exertions oldie Hight IL,n. Sec. e-
tary abroad, wire forgott-n or reviled at home. He di--
chainn any idea of wishing to give pain to Lord Beres-
ford ; but when a situation, which was a sinecure, and of
cour.e injurious to the interests off the pecoiee, required
its being aloolishe 1, it was his duty, as a 51..mhereof the
House vot Commotei, to prop tae its redectinn ; par icerlsrly
at a time when the people aonopleihed on a 1 sides of the
op?teistott the taxes.
' The house was preparing to divide, when

r. MACDONALD rose and said that he wished to ad-
dress a few observations to the House before it came to its
decision. The rnoliun of the lion. Member for Aberdeen
was founded upon the basis of the Report of the Coia.W.4-
sioners of Military Inquiry. The words of that Report
were conditional. that the situation of the Lieutenant-Geste-
ral of the Ordnance might be abolished if the Office of the
Ordnance was remodelled. lie and many other Members
cau.d not hut be emb ed in the vote they should gis a
WI the motion; fo if they were to vote fir the motion as it
was, they would decide the question without cond tion. per=-
Imps tojet..t!y and without foundation. lie did not whit ta,
pass al undeserve.l censure either on the Noble Lord et the
trial of tee Ordnance nor on his Majesty's Government, and
he e.oshi not, theref..re, ovoid thinking that a Committee r,
inquire ioto the uti ity of continuing or discontinuing the of-
fice. or Lieutennnt-General would be the best mode of contihg
to a fair division. Tue Besse would, in that inquiry, ha:
the full benefit of the experience and knowledge of the No-
ble Dake at Cie head of that Department ; and every one
knew, whatever might be the errors or faults attributed ei
other matters to that Noble Person, that he never slirai!<
from the public business. Ile threw out this suggestion to
the lion. :Brattier, with a hope that the motion would be
formed into more expedient shape. such as one for a Com-
mittee of Inquiry into the duties of the office, with a ciew to
its abolition; and he hoped nett such Members as concurred,
with him in that opinion would not hesitate to express it.
Mr. Secretary CANNING. Before the Hon. Member for
Aberdeen consents to a re-modelling of his motion, I beg to
declare, that I cannot consent to his withdrawing the motion
hefore the [louse. The lion. Member who has suggested
thnt modification ought to have consulted his Honourable
Friend before he came here.—(Cries of spoke from the Op-
position.)

Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the gallery was
cleared for a division. Daring our ahteoc•, we understoo 1
that Mr. Macdonald was about to propose his suggest! so e.
an Amendment, but that the cries of spoke" preventeA
him. Lord Normanhy then moved it as an amendment.—
No division took place before the gallery was again opened.
On our return, we found . _

Mr. C. 11CTC111NSON on his legs, stating that he-should
vote Co the motion of the lion. Member for Aberdeen. rv,t
from any feeleg of disrespect to Lord Beresford or the
Doke of Wellington, but from his cons ietion that the coun-
try, now on the eve ofentering into war, required Clot thoso
motions which had for their object the introduction of just
cram of economy into the public exp-Ttiture spoilt
support.—lie could oat but object to the tdme no 1
manner of the Right lion. ts,cretary for Foreign Atf,ire on
that occasion, for the first motion of th• Session for econo:.
my ought to be treated with attention, and not. with dis-
respect.
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Strangers were again ordered to wir.draw, and the !vit.
lery was cleared. The Amendment was tier rejected with-
out a division. The Ilouse divided on the original motion,
Ayes 73; Noes 200—Majority 127.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at a few minutes after tea o'clock.

During the late severe wea'll..r, a gfest number of
woodcocks acre killed in the neighboarla antl of Port Isaac
where they were s f sixpence rata, Several witlt
wans have been shat between Port Isaic.and iVadelo gi. •
—(West Briton.)
At Liskeard fair on Monday last, the de4nan I for rattle
and sheep was brisk and sales weat etfeeteil‘_at advanced
prices. . .
At Totnes Great Market. on the 4th instotary teff
sheep were shown, which were so an sol I at an advance of
d. per lb. am the last anarkea's prices. Fat Bollocks alio
sold well.
At the Taunton mon hly c,ttle marke on theist lits 4
the show of stock was eery eon aideratde ; an iWprt.istl:.
mit in the valne of the castle oirered for sal, was expo.
rienced in every drscriptioi of the stork. Cews.with
calves were eagerly in rripiest, and fat bullock, sold for
Is. liatand 2s. a score more than on tie preceding nionthlr
market.

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Trrguny fair, on Nfontliv last. Lit rank and sheep
wham ti.l in price front 10 'co 15 per ern . ; owing, •it
is
'toilets nod, to the sevel ity of the wea. her, and a scucity
of fat Taal .The lonurs in this and the neithho tang
county have snstained vetl.severe losses by the death a
lambs during the late inclement season.