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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
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• ' -,,,:f The Marquu of BUCKINGHAM presorted s ption .
i , from the Velversity of Oxford, egaidst the Catholic Claims.
.',.• •lIMS4EI.I.FPIELD presented a Petition from tbelfoodeed
; : ''.o mahleyard, in the Conety of Norfolk, In which the
stated that they were engaged in the pursuits of
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Owe, and prayed that eertain grievanoss under which
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WE* talsemedmight be removed.
i''' , .lbeldarquess of BUTE said be wishml lie leinfoneed.
i . - er It Ms. the intention of Guernotort to provide for
-. ', ; 'holding of additional Chinches in Soothind, patent* to
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A , Appropriation Act.
..t..... • rd MELVILLE answered that It was the inteollou
1 itsif Govereneept to appropriate the sum of 11N1,00,5. foe the
perpose. , . -
• IEI4II TITHES..
'.The Matquese of LANDSDOINN'saId he bad to mill the I
Marietta% itflbe Molise to a mantle% of the greeeset import-
ance tts.all who firitaa interest in the would state of Ire-
, labile. A nieesaiss fee the commutation of tithes is that
cottntrtele sew Pending I dad he nosierstood It wits the in-
unties erste Irish Hierarchy to petition Pasitemeet *phut
the adoption of that measure. He hoped, however, no such
Intention existed on the part of the ffiltet. Lords who
!?..1* Arallifiebttrit W*lllllolo6 • He`.laldd tem give notice.
that if any sub petition were proemial; Oat House. he
... Wens mimed with a petition. of an eater., which
,_. dim, 0641414ger tp their Lordiblies !Mtn SW-
;te: . 11110OCIATTONS wrrit voßtistkvinTEßP.
4,:liisid EterAKßOßOUtilli subtitle rose lo 611 tbi *
1406(4044h* Lordships to-the a** it to
of
it let•timw. with 'Nance, relative to the .118111*
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At.: pain.-41t doing thisiie slieuld lay ow a peeisiti
i''•.':l:consiiiaiailleas, and peielut so it alfghtlll.l*- lit ailia•
ovreoldmivell the whole of the late pillgitedisge,
E. i • &Utopia ef:Minietate In their right fif.ihr.ors before
L." t' ..,thAbr. It wq9ll4te:plorta for Miiii.,Ai*,
? , "tt.,lise, INTO ~Iff it. tome . of, it Nokia :DOA adohoot
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..7% '' • sy was 60 gieatlyindebted, *WO. is thaws
i'''...* ~. . ' • ;• ft we his Mob that . iltia,onnte of that
r . ' 1r Ifilist might 4witend pore. end nab missed to
'; -tritif/t Md. Heise impossible- to *et the cintinss-
t
i.:., -ottendiarlhe loft nesecbttiona is. ,tir Prefer
1 • 'lltOrt?!V the - Ikettelloridust • ..itis. seve-
',;,.4. on conduct.- In oomsson . with Ethers, be
i t gratit to the Illob)*Pshe for the *services
isc . red ro-bis redetry Ad to - ',hot ,be
.i , (Lord E.) would be sari e,;l4ne of kijeapokhalport-.
. ' ant duties, as a Somber of the LeglislatonsO( be,'-too-
seated to consider those services as enoar for the
glaring errors he had Committed: and i r diamegte-
tioul dpetrines be had •atlvaneed In -the coarse el his
' late cotrespondeoce. Let his services-be appreciated is
'..' they deterred • but it would be fatal to die liberties Of
the 'lobate), if his errors were *Bowed to tam +/Azimut
notice and censure. He recollected that in In), when
~ '• dlicussioos took place in that House relative to lite con-
' dart .of the Allied Sovereigns towards Naples, It was
said 144 •Revolotion AP Naples war 'a business quite
slimiest fetter the Rem:dodos which had taken plate in
l' Spain, arid-therefore OW -lane! was ,censidere4 as an
event which did not call for any interference en the
' part of tither Powers. lin this occasion be thought it
would beTtotio call the attendee ortheir Leidibips
to sonisi•efil; circumetaues which were redirected
with thd Revolution in Spate., with a ',towel shelving
the catmeis-frem which It originated. it *so well *sown
to everyhodyl4 , that its ihf you 18 "Oen Kintieci
- dillherltaitteletkinsi his 'erne* measures was
thatch distroving by eloleste the Coestitetion which
had been established in Spain, with the concurrence of
England, and the other Powers of &rope. This act
was at first effected without any resistance on the par of
the Cortes or the Spanish people. But at the same tit de
King Ferdinand declared he would establish the Cortes
of the kingdom at some convenient period. It was
well known that those profises were never fulfilled;
• and that his first step on arriving at MOM was to'
throw 1108liftOUS persons belongiog to the Vertu jots
rbson. In the year ISO several persons were ordered
: to he brought to trial, when the tribunals declared
that so fault could be fumed against them. Ferdinand,
,dot sati*tied with those equitable decisions, passed sea.
• truce on the parties himgelf; and among other eminent
min, Arguelles was sentenced to ten years service as
' a private soldier. The Noble Lord next adverted to be
Congress which took place at ,Laybach in Dec. 1020. At
this dine the Allies were called on by the Spanish Govern-
ment to make an explanation as to their views respecting
their country, and it was then declared that they had no in-
torno§ of interfering in its concerns. Whatever the dispo-
sition cf the Allied Sovereigns might have been It that time,
it was evident that nothing of a decided character had been
resoired sin with regard to Spain. Sack was the state of
things until the month of September, ISift, when a disposi-
tion was manifested that whatever was to be done, must be
due by iregoolation alone: After a decimalises had in the
first inmate been made, 'that ao interferes.* would take
place; and after what had slum been done. he asked their
I.ordsitips if they could place the smallest omedesee in any
declarations that might come from the Allied hovereignet—
Were their Lordships to suppose that Austeistafter having
destroyed a greet pert of the liberties of Gormley and
Italy, would pay any respect to Great Relish' or her Par'
mime. which a hired Austrian writer had lately de-
mribtrd as a standing pestilence which ought to be got rid 1
'' off It was evident, that from the year 1814., to the present
thee, the absolute Sovereigns of Ramps bad lost no op-
• pofttruity ' of crushing the liberty of their own subjects,
• end of eonspincy against the liberty of other Dodoes.—
(Hear, beer.) It was impassible that sub sondem as this
, . 'sold not create an alarm throeghogt itompe. At the
' . my time when the Noble Duke to whom be bad already
, received information that the Fusels Government
litsdapetted to make the affairs of Spirt a parodaent feature
II the negocistions at Verona. sad white an army—not of
health, but of observatim, was collected On the frontier,
he totught lit to state it as his opinion to the,French oo-
trartanent that that army was nut more t
.. sufficient to
'protect the French frontier from Iseult; this opinion
. & . gives when •the sites, of. the Fre Were mani-
fested to the whole world; and when toffy one Must
have been-aware of the danger which wool& result to this
country, thonld the French acquire that maritime ascen-
dancy which' the possetsion of the portent Spain would
Os them; and should they proceed to make an attack
against Portugal. a country *kith we were bound to
protect, as ant Ally. Did the Noble Doke contemplate
, no danger of Ibis kind ? Did he consider what was like-
ly to become of that balance of power which'had been
arranged at the Congress of Vienna? On the 27th of
Sept. Mr. Canning wrote a letter to the Hairs of Wel-
lington, in which were these words:—." If there he a
determined 'project to interfere by force or by prenace.
in the press at struggle io Spain, eo coat laced are his
Majesty's lloveromeut of the uselessness and danger
of say such interference, so objectionable does it ap-
pear to them in principle as will as utterly impractica-
ble is execution, that when the necessity arises, or (I
, mould rather say). when the opportunity offers. I am
to instinct your Grace at once frankly and peremptorily-
to declare, to any such interference, dorm what may,
his Majesty will —.." What Was it that his lbw.
zesty neold do? Was it to oppose the. whole forms of
tke British Empire against garb interfere/ace?. No,
each thing. Was it then that his Majesty, snits the

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dangerous principle, geoid not accede to abs Irle'halt,
the ground of interference? No; bat tie letter emeelitit
ed by mently'stating that his Middsty would net boil
party to it!!! This watt the whore of the moonsl
made &plait this impel attempt, which went to s=
a blow at one of the moid nimble principles of the lawi
and the independence oftfattoes ; an attempt which threats
ened our faithful Ally, inset went directly to overthrow
the balance of power. Such was the state of danger threat-
suing all Europe, in 'bleb his Majesty's Goverment
thought to stand with their semi at rest, and without
making any remonstrance, thug participating by their si-
lencein the crimes of the Frvnoh Government. Minis-
tors, in short; bad done nothing; they said very little,
and what they did eas was ill said. Here the Noble
Lord proceeded to notice the communication rent by the
Duke of Wellington to Mr. Canning on the 22d of ()eta
her; and then observed that throngboot the whole of the
Noble Duke's toupee, it was evident that no regard
wits paid to principle; nothing was said against the in-
jaatice. but ail against the inexpediency of interference.
Fhe Nebk Duke bad indeed conferred great benefits toe
the ling of France, and he might have supposed the
Fast% Ooverainent incapable of entertaining any Wishes
hostile to the liberties of Europe, otherwise it was hardly
possible to account for the doctrines which be had
farina -The Nottili"Duke lithe latter part dills ineviir
to the Frepoll Plenipotentiary made an omissiow.which
was altetithet unfounded in truth .or justice; and
width was well :worthy the notice of their Lordships.
He said that 's civil war existed on the whole extent
ether he frontier between franca and Spain; and in
despatch the Nob!, Duke admitted that the Spa-
'era' 'revolution endangered the safety elf Europe; an
liansission. which piored the greatest imprudence en
his part; and here ended the negociations at Vona,
He shaidd next advert to another part of these truism-
lions still More 'mischievous. When the Noble Duke rt.
turned to Paris, be found a, letter from Mr. Canning,
containing proposals of mediation between the Govern-
ment of efanCll and Spain. In his deepatch to Sir W.
AVisurt, dated the gth Dee. Mr. Canning. sail:—" His
litale.ty's mediation between France, and Spain, if son-,
ailed by Spain and accepted by France would be gladly
given end earstaly 'exerted, ae.' —Then, too referring bi
ait
AO another despatch of Mr. Canning's, It would be foiled
that the segoriation would be used only in nee of a ren
quest on the part of the French Government, andeheaKee
said association must be on condition of Spain
jog the. tbe. grievances of this country. which grievants=
WWII ist *eery old standing. Here the mediation wu of-
fermi** Frame ; but would not be granted to Spots unless-
she redressed our grievances. l'illele's letter, pablished at
Paris on the 27th of December. said that the Kiss of France
'bad no hope of preserving peace, while Spain coationed se
be torn by factions. la the memorandum by the Duke of
Wellington on the eth of January, he desired that the Klieg
of Spain should be' placed in that situation which a King
ought to be satisfied with; and complained that the Kis*
had not the power he ought to possess. Me (Lord Elle*•
boron h) sweld dot conceive the precise degree if power
the Kliv if Spain ought to have possessed. 1/13a Noble
Doke; bred up as he had been hi camps, might- not havaii-
perfect knowledge of the British Gemination; but he eoutit,
not meagre how the Noble Duke could io list forget the
principles of public law alto desire so independent cation'
to alter,its Constitution, In order to gratify the wish of the
Allied Sovereign.. Any alteration so mode in a Constitattoo
that had been seaway refern to, would be a violence of
every ptteciplo of national independence and happlisesi.
Fortunately the Spaniards possessed more knowledge of
'their Cotatitation nod of the obligations of anoint than the
Noble Doke ; they nobly refused to make any alteration lb
what they had sworn to intataia ; and fortunatety fernier
country that respected the principles of liberty, the proposi-
tion was now resisted ; and it was extraordinary that this
intrigue was going on when the French Government was
dotei mined to go to war without any compromise whatever.
Here the Noble Lord read over several other papers. to
show the absurdity and impolicy of the line of conduct pur-
sued by our Government. The Noble Duke had instilled
the maintenance of tbe twiny of observation, and that ad.
'mission gave to Frances ground for keeping up that Grimy.
noir Lordships must ob the joy which this ediaiseioa
gave is the French Government, as would appear from**
paper of Choteaubriand, wko then declared that. Prance
had the right to defend herself against moral contagion.
After that concession was made, no value could bkattached
to any profession on the part of the French Government.
The whole case of France might then stand justified on the
edminion in question. In January Cliateaubriind said the'
only concession the French Government would accept was,'
the total abandonment of the Spanish Constitution; and this
was done at the very time when Sir *linen A'Court
was. by the desire of the British Government, en-
deavouring to obtain concessions from Spain : and then,
for the first time, on the 213th of January, Mr. Canning
declared that interference would be an act ofinjostice.—
This be privately communicated to Sir Wm. A'Court.-.
This was the first time Mr. Canning made the admission,
that it was at the desire of France we were endeavodrisg
to procure alterations in the Spanish Constitution. Os
the 28th of January Sir C. Stuart wrote that no con-1
cessions of this nature could be obtained from Spain; 'mid
Chateaubriand's declaration then proved that no Gates- 1
tion had ever been entertained by the French Giver*
mot to accept of any modification of the Spanish Consti-
teflon, and that nothing would satisfy them, but the mite-
blishusent of the King of Spain in absolute power. a nstm-
sure which would, to all intents and purposes, be a. re- I
' establishment of the Family Compact. Chateaubriaad 'I
seeing that the negociations could produce no advantage, I
told Mr. Canning that if Spain would consent to Nape a
second number, then that military operations would be
suspended, and. that there would be grounds for ne/Oela•
firms. It appeared that the negociations of Sir Willis's
A'Cotsrt, were carried on without any express authority
(rout the French Government. Under all these circum-
stances, he would ask whether the Government of Eng-
land had done what were fit to be done, and whether it
was consistent with the honour •of England to endea-
vour to obtain a fr;euilly nation such alterations in her
Constitution as France might be supposed to wish for ?
•Was it an honouroble act to try to induce Members to
break the oaths they bad taken? And was it consistent
With the principles Of national law, or with the interests of
Maglsod that France should make this war ?—s war which
steeds alone, and which was covered with the infamy that
belonged to all the aggressions of Napoleon? Was it like-
ly that our interests could be forwarded by petting the
French Government in possession of the principal fortresses
of Spain, and by admitting the principle that it was a justifi-
Ole thing:lir one country to keep an army on the frontiers
of another. merely for nowtrp of preventing moral eon-
,' melon. England was called on to decide whether she
, would now suffer an aggression which she would not have
sedated in her best days. Was it for the interest of man-
kind. or for the general interest of Europe, that Frown;
I should make this aggression ? • Every thing recommended
Ity our Government, in the course of the negociations. war
disregarded by France, which was new invading with an
I hostile army that country which it was our duty to have pro-
tected ; but instead of doing so. we took no step whatever
ir for the preservation of international law. With such Pa-
I pore as their Lordships now had before them. and seeing
Ithat Ministers had omitted every thing which it was their
slaty to have done, was it possible that their Lordships
could avoid pronouncing on them that opinion which would
mark the sense that must be entertained of their conduct.—
All the intrigues of the French at Verona, wont to the estab-
lishment of principles hostile to every free Constitution,
and bad the utter subjection of Spain (or their object. The