The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-12-09 00:00:00

EDUCATION COMMITTEE.

The DEPUTY TOWN-CLERK read the proceedings of the
Education Committee. It appeared that at their meeting
on the 12th of November Mr. Edmund Molyneux was
elected the chairman, and Mr. David Hodgson deputy
chairman of the committee. The following return was
made of the number of children upon the books from the
25:h of October to the 28th of November :

DENOMINATION. NORTH SCHOOL.
Church of England
Protestant Dissenters
Roman Catholics

SOUTH SCHOOL.
.. 498
.. 498
.. 50

Total 927 654
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE.
Boys. 252
Girls
Infants
Total 643
It further appeared that at their meeting, on the 3rd instant,
the committee agreed upon the following resolution :
" The schools being open for all children, without distinc-
tion of religious denomination, the committee consider it
would promote the beneficial objects and intention of the
schools to omit any statement of such distinction in reporting
the number of children on the books and in attendance at
the Feb ools, and the committee therefore recommend that
any such statement be discontinued."
The report of the proceedings concluded with the following
statement of the plan by which the committee think it de-
sirable their proceedings should be governed.
" The Education Committee, looking back with satisfaction
to the proceedings of the past year, think it right to state the

course which, after mature deliberation, they propose pur- •
suing. By the established system, a sound education, based
upon religion, is imparted to all who will seek its blessings,
without excluding any but such as refuse to read the Bible in
common with their fellow Christians ; an exception, there-
fore, for which the committee do not feel responsible. The
daily business of the schools commences and closes with
prayer. The Bible is read daily, and all who wilt receive it
have also the benefit of sound religious instruction, accord-
ing to the liturgy of the Church of England; but which last
mentioned instruction is not enforced upon those who may con..
scientiously object to it ; and therefore the children of Romer
Catholics and of dissenters are not required to learn the Church
Catechism, nor to attend church on Sunday. The committee
would appeal to the dispassionate judgment of all whether this
system, alike removed from intolerance on the one hand, and
the still greater evil of latitudinarianism on the other, is not
such as should be maintained, and be alone maintained, by
the Town-council ; whether it be not admirably adapted to
effect the greatest possible good, without violating charity ;
for however they may regret that any should exclude them-
selves from participating in its benefits, the committee can-
not open wide the door of admission unless by diluting,
so to speak, or accommodating, the Bible to the prejudices
of those who refuse to receive it in its entirety and purity,
or, in deference to the same prejudice, by dispensing
with its use altogether. For neither alternative is the com-
mittee prepared. The first involves a proposition inad-
I missable in a Christian community ; the latter would be
in effect to administer secular instruction alone with-
out inculcating a duty on the only sure basis of religious
principle, a system which the committee conscientiously
believe would make them the vehicle of a curse and not a
blessing. Both these are alike inconsistent with the sacred
trust reposed in the committee in a nation where Christianity
in its purest practice is established as a part of the law of the
land. The committee are persuaded that the town of Liver-
pool, tired of the continued agitation of this subject, will
gladly receive the determination of the council to maintain
the schools on the sound basis of religious principle, and
therefore in the faithful and earnest discharge of their duty
the committee announce their purpose, under the authority
of the council, to maintain inviolably the system of educa-
tion now pursued in the schools, and while they allow to
others, as fully as they claim for themselves, the right pf
acttng• according to the dictates of conscience, they would
respectfully deprecate the continued agitation of a question
which, if the present resolution be confirmed by the council,
can scarcely be discussed to any useful purpose, nor without
peril to charity and peace.
Mr. E. MOLYNEUX said he had the honour to propose
that the proceedings and recommendations of the Education
Committee be confirmed.
Mr. HODGSON seconded the motion.

Mr. HORNBY said that before going into the general
question he thought it his duty to make one observation
with regard to the order of proceeding in that council. It
appeared to him that the course pursued by the Education '
Committee on this occasion was not only unprecedented, but
perfectly erroneous and unjustifiable. It was the duty
of the council to declare the principles upon which the
business of the corporation should be conducted, and it
appointed committees for the purpose of carrying those
principles out ; but the Education Committee, in the resolu-
tion which they had thought proper to place upon their books,
appeared to him to have trenched upon the duties and the '
privilege of the council. (" Hear, hear," from the liberals,
and cries of " No," from the conservatives.) It was the
special duty of every individual member of the council to
guard the prerogative of the council, and to take care that it
was not abolished by any section of its members. (Hear.)
So far as his experience and knowledge of council proceed-
ings went, it was unprecedented for the Education Committee
to take upon themselves, as they had in this instance, to
declare upon what principles the schools should be conducted.
Such a declaration ought to have come only from the council;
and the simple insertion of the words " subject to the appro-
bation of the council," by no means justified the committee
in taking the step which they bad thus taken.
Mr. Alderman EARLE quite agreed with his friend Mr.
Hornby, that this proceeding was irregular, but he was not
surprised at it, as, during the last year, he had seen a great
many irregularities on the part of the Education Committee.
He was glad to find that there was on his side the question
a man who could speak so forcibly and so boldly as Mr.
Hornby. He did not know who had concocted this precious
manifesto; but from the repetition in it of the words " di-
luted" and " dispensed," and so on, he should think that
some pious druggist must have had a hand in it. (Laughter.)
Mr. HODGSON said, that if Mr. Hornby was nut speaking
to order, he should not himself say one word at present but
if he was, he Should claim a right of making an observation.
The MAYOR said Mr. Hornby had spoken to order.
Mr. HODGSON said he was, then, speaking to order too.
He believed that the course pursued by the Education Com-
mittee was most perfectly and thoroughly in order. They
had offered no new principle whatever; they merely told the
principles upon which they had been appointed, how those
principles were in operation, bow they were acting, and how it
was of the utmost importance that they should be main-
tained ; and they merely offered their reasons in support of
that view. The distinction, therefore, which had been
attempted to be drawn was a futile distinction, hating no
soundness in it.

The MAYOR asked Mr. Hornby whether he had any mo-
tion to propose on the subject?
Mr. Hominy replied in the negative. He called attention
to the subject merely in order that this proceeding on the
part of the Education Committee might not be drawn into a
precedent. _

Mr. G. U. LAWRENCE did not go the full length of the
Education Committee, and he had prepared a modification
of that " manifesto," as it was called, which he was going
to submit as an amendment.

Mr. SANDS believed that the Town-Clerk, if he were
asked, would tell the council that the proceedings of the
Education Committee were perfectly in order. Indeed the
Education Committee, some years ago, took precisely the
same steps which the present committee had just taken.
Mr. EARLE : Its just a manifesto to frighten us ; so let us
hear the Town-clerk.

The TOWN-CLERK could only state that having been di-
rected by the present Education Committee to report to them
upon the proceedings, or at least to make ri report which in-
volved the proceedings of the former Education Committee,
one remarkable thing which occurred to him was, that the
meaning of the resolution of the Council, " that the proceed-
ings be confirmed," could only be gathered from the pro-
ceedings of the Committee. So far as applying to the Coun-
cil books, nothing could be learned of the principles upon
which the schools were conducted but upon reference to the
proceedings which the general resolution of the Council con-
firmed. Therefore, the course throughout, upon the part of
the Education Committee, appeared to him to have been to
commit just such errors as had been committed upon the
present occasion, if it were an error. His opinion was, that
this proceeding was in regular course; and, certainly, it was
supported by precedent in former committees. (Hear, hear.)
The MAYOR : Then we will now proceed with the discus-
sion.

Mr. LEIGH inquired whether Mr. Blackburn withdrew the
motion of which he had given notice ? [That the children
of Roman Catholics be admitted to the Corporation Schools
to receive secular instruction only.]
Mr. BLACKBURN : NO.

The MAYOR said that motion would come on in due course,
and, as he understood, Mr. G. H. Lawrence's motion would
come on as an amendment upon the proceedings as regarded
one particular branch?
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE replied, yes. Those proceedings
had been brought into discussion by the " manifesto" just
read, otherwise he should not have thought of rising to ad-
dress the Council. He thought, too, that this was the most
convenient time for him to introduce the question. In the
first place, he must acknowledge that the " manifesto" of the
Education Committee reflected the highest credit upon the
body from which it had emanated. It was drawn up in the
most able and comprehensive way; it exposed at one view a
system of education to which he, individually, and in his pri-
vate capacity, could give the fullest, the most,honest, and the
most sincere assent. As a Churchman, it was completely
and everything he could wish for ; but, as a member of that
Council, as a trustee of the public funds, he thought the sys-
tem was susceptible of some modification, of some relaxation,
with the view of making the education in the Corporation
Schools more generally available to the Liverpool public than
it was at present. With these views he was prepared to sub-
mit the following resolution, which he would ask the Coun-
cil, with all humility, to adopt:
" That it be referred to the committee to consider whe-
ther, after establishing in the Corporation Schools a system
of religious instruction based on the principles of the Church
of England, and in all respects in strict accordance with her
tenets, such a modification cannot be made in the existing
rules and regulations as would render the schools more avail-
able for the classes of the poor professing different religious
opinions, by allowing their children the benefit of the secular
instruction of the schools, the parents giving an assurance to
the committee that their religious duties shall not be neg-
lected."

This was the resolution he was now going to offer for the
approval of the council : but before he proceeded to com-
ment upon it he should take the opportunity of touching the
string which he had harped upon before, both in that room
and elsewhere. He would declare the opinion which he had
j all along entertained, that this council was not an educating
' body,that it never should have become one, and that he regretted
exceedingly it bad ever become one. There were parties
who would assimilate the present case with the Bury St.
Edmond's case, but there was no analogy between the two.
That case was, as to the application of property left centuries
ago for the purpose of endowing schools ; hut there was no
such obligation on the part of the corporation of Liverpool.
He had taken great pains to make inquiries upon that point,
and from the best information he had been able to get, he
had come to the conclusion that the corporation had no pro-
perty of that kind. Mr. Okill, from whom he derived his
information, than whom no man was more competent to
afford it, assured him that the corporation had no such pro-
perty. To be sure he understood that there was a grant of
X 5 a year made a long time ago, so far back as Queen Eliza-
beth's time, for maintaining a grammar school in this town ;
that endowment the corporation had for a considerable
period of time; but upon the death of Mr. Baynes, the last
master of the grammar school, it fell with him, and if it was
revived at all, it was revived in the shape of the Blue Coat
Hospital. The old corporation had the power of doing what
they pleased : they were amenable to no law whatever except
that of opinion ; and it would be acknowledged on all hands
that they distributed the funds in their charge in a munifi-
cent and judicious way, all things considered. They could
do, as he said before, what they pleased. They felt the ne-
cessity of providing for the religious instruction of the poor
of the town. As they had built churches, so also they
erected schools for the edification and instruction of the
children of the poor; and they established those schools, as
they had every right to do, in the religion of the Church of
England, which they themselves professed, and which
the majority of the people professed. The course of the
present council, however, could hardly be the same as their
course, for they were " tied and bound by the chain" of re-
form ; and though it might be very well for them to say they
did not go into that room as a political body (and there
might be some truth in it), yet they were so ; but it ought
to he their real object, as most certainly it was their duty,
to carry out the Municipal Act in its fullest and fairest and
most strict sense. Now what did the Municipal Reform Act
say upon the subject of educating or instructing the poor?
It said positively nothing! It threw heaps of obligatory ex-
pense upon the corporation ; but if they must keep up their
schools at all, they could only be maintained by the surplus
income, that most precarious of all resources. If the surplus
income failed, the schools must be closed as a matter of
course; but surely, if the legislature had ever intended the
council to be an educating body, they would not have rested
their power of being so upon so unstable and precarious a
foundation as that. There was another point, concerning
which he would ask whether the council might not draw an
argument from analogy. As the legislature had insisted
upon the church advowsons being sold, declaring in so many
words that they had no confidence in the town councils as
regarded the instruction and education of the people, they
should have nothing at all to do with the education of the
poor in the principles of the church. But, assuming it for a
moment to be intended that they should be an educating
body, was it not probable that the legislature would have
acted in a very different way—that they would have defined
the kind of instruction they should give, if they were to give
any at all ? He was sure this would have been the case, if
the legislature had had any such intention. Let him ask,
again, if it were intended that the council should be teachers,
wat kind of education the legislature would have been likely
to establish ? Would they have sanctioned the system of
education which we had had the satisfaction of uprooting
here, and which Mr. Blackburn approved, namely, the Irish
system? He thought not. Lord Stanley, who introduced
this system in Ireland, himself a zealous churchman, a
member of her Majesty's present government, a man whose
opinion might be relied upon, the author of the Irish system
of education in that country, and the founder of the Liver-
pool Collegiate Institution in this—a man whom the clergy

delighted to honour, and whom Mr. M`Neile (be ber;e'd
pardon for introducing names), in the language of poet',
addressed thus—

" On, Stanley, on ! "
What did he tell us ? He said, that however well the sYst,erfl..t
might do for Ireland, it was never intended for England ; that
if so, the feelings of the legislature and country would bap:
been manifested in such a way, as at once to convince thew,,
as well as the Dublin board, that they never could attetall
to carry thatlystem here. But, would they have establisbieet"
the present system? Without hesitation, be replied, t.lt
never would : that they never would have thought or 'le
Wishing such a system in supporting which the funds of
corporation should be expended.. If they had established a s_
tern at all, it would have been some such system as had hel:.
lately established—the system which now prevailed in 'fl,
parish workhouse schools. Who could say there was Or,
distinction or difference between the funds of the corporation
and the funds or money raised for the support of the poos
except, perhaps, this, that with.regard to the poor the but,
gation was paramount ? You must educate the poor;
in the present case the obligation lay precisely the other %lot
That was the system they would have established, and wnsf
was it ? It was not in operation here at present, but 501
his friends, who were present, were now actually engage ,1,11:
building a large school for hie very purpose. It woe' s
therefore, soon- be tried ; the authority of the church rt
certainly recognised in it, but the Roman Catholic Pries„
might walk in and give instruction, either out of the Poll.
Bible, or the Irish extracts, and the Methodist ministe
e
might attend, subject of course to regulations; they wee,
not, however, to be prevented from attending if they chat?e,,
and they would have the power of administering religious I,'
struction according to their respective creeds. That was
be the general system of education. It had been introduced
by the late government it was true ; bet it had been saner
tioned by the present government, inasmuch as the new P°°,
law act, in which it occupied a prominent place, had been 7.
dorsed by Sir J. Graham, Sir Edward Knatchbull, Sir t
Peel, and Lord Stanley. Would the council like to have tha
system ? His own impression was that it would lead to con;
fusion ; he should be afraid of collision between the ditTeren;
denominations ; but it was the general system which br
been adopted by the legislature, and been approved of by taer
bishops as well as others. If the council approved et
that system as a compromise it might be tiied, 13°
as he had said before, he did not think it so likely t,
be approved of as that which he was now about to Pr°,
pose. He would now turn to his own proposal. So long ,"'t
they had any surplus income, they might, if they thoug°,
proper, go on spending it as they did now ; hut he was boaaa.
to tell them that whilst he acknowledged he rejoiced. hat thel:
had uprooted a bad system, they had not, on the other hap %
effected the great extent of good which he had expected. 4"„
schools were not so full as they were. Added to that, Mee'.
had afforded a pretext to lukewarm conservatives to wit'
draw their subscriptions to a large extent from the Church of
St.
England schools. In the south end of the town, at S
Michael's, they had been the means of occasioning the aban-
donment of a large boy's school which was attached to the'
church. Was not that doing harm ? The clergy were the
proper proper machinery for educating the poor of the country ; an
he contended that one school attached to a church was wort"'
half a dozen attached to the Town-couhcil. It was UP!
these grounds that be regretted that the council should have
become an educating body at all. He would now go on fur'
tiler, and express his regret that so many of these poor [o°:
man Catholic-I children should have absented theinselvr,
from the schools. It was now no longer a matter of dou°,
that they did absent themselves ; it was no longer a matter o'
indifference that they had the monthly returns, for it a°s
well understood now that the [Roman Catholic] children
would not come. In spite of the prophecies of some parties,
who, no doubt, were well able to form a judgment that they
would finally come, the result had proved quite the reverse.
There were schools in which children used to crowd, but they
were not crowded except in the infant's school, wherp theY
were sent to be out of harm's way. Now, much as the coup'
cif might deplore the fact, there could not be a doubt ule
the subject. The question then was, could anything be
done without encouraging popery on the one hand, or en-t
dangering. the Church of England upon the other ? Th,B,e
was the real question. He thought something might aL
done; and if the schools were to be carried on 'a
thought they ought to make some little attempt to 8'•
complish that object. Were the schools under his direc-
tion he would make them mote Church of .England school!,
than they were at present ; that should be the great rule an°,
guide for them ; he would be responsible for the education of
parties who went there to learn the creed of the Church a,
England; he would be responsible for that altogether;
it
would be only for religious instruction that he should care
anything about. His schools should be under the control of
a Church of England schoolmaster ; he would have them la
connection with the National Society, and parents of tbe.
poor children sent there should feel perfectly satisfied the;
they were Church of England schools. He would teach the
creed of the Church of England there every day in the week,
and from the first day of the year to the last; he would tesei
it as well on the Sunday as on the Monday ; he would not be
responsible, as it were only for the religious instruction f,
the children whom he taught Protestantism upon six days to
the week, and then allow them to slip through his fingers on
the Sabbath, and for religious instruction be taught PoperY
or any thing else. With that he would have no concern'
. This was his feeling—he would be church all over, but at the
same time he would open the door to other parties who diP
fered from him. He would say to the Dissenters, among
whom he included the Roman Catholics, " I cannot under;
take to give religious instruction to your people; you 005,
be fully aware that these are Church of England schools, ba'
if you will furnish me with some guarantee or formal engage'
went, either from yourself, or, if possible, from your clergy'
man, that yourechildren shall not.be unprovided with relir
ous instruction, I will then allow you to absent them from
school on the sabbath ; I will then allow your case to bean
exception to the general rule ; I will perniit you to receiv,e
.
the same secular instruction, but it can be only upon sue'
conditions as I have stated." He knew there were difficul-
ties whichever way he turned; be knew there would be ob-
jections to any general or uniform system which could be
propounded, but he believed that in the plan which he had
chalked out no vital principle was sacrificed or abandoned.
He did not mean to say there was not concession in it, be
that there was not something of compromise about it ; "ye
acknowledged that there was, and he would rather it was no
don't; but, he would ask, was there no compromise or con'
cession in the schools at present? Was there no compro-
mise or concession in the Collegiate Institution itself? He
said there was. In these days. e could not carry on without
concession or conciliation. What would be the state of the
country without concession or conciliation ? God forbid he
should ever argue in favour of an abandonment of prin-
ciple—he hoped be never should—but how many good
sound measures had been obtained by concession and cow'
promise ! We bid defiance to Irish agitators and chartist
demagogues ; but what would have been the state of the
country if, in addition to our present troubles, the Rowel;
Catholic relief bill had not passed, or the reform bill bad no
been carried ? So long as differences in opinion lasted, there
must be concession somewhere; and he did not think theY
would haeard any vital principle by agreeing to his proposal.
He felt the greatest possible pain and hesitation in interfering
in this matter, and he acknowleged that it was
with tlle
greatest difficulty he made any proposal of this sort. be
differed with those who surrounded him with the greatestt.
regret ; but looking at the question in a municipal point oi
view, he really could not arrive at any other conclusion, an
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he had come to it honestly and fairly : they must forgive
him—he hoped they would forgive hire—they might think
him wrong, but still he could not come to any other conclu-
sion. There was a gentleman—it was the Rev. Dr. Tatter-
shall—who, at a late Protestant meeting, was pleased to We'
that he (Mr. G. H. Lawrence) and those who agreed wit'
him had got into their trouble because they had not given to
the subject sufficient consideration. Now lie must beg leave
to differ from that reverend gentleman, and say, it was he:
cause they bmight
given it too much consideration. Theymight
say, perhaps, that lie allowed the situation of those poor
children to have too deep an impression upon his mind ; he
had a morbid sensibility upon the subject, they might say
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but still it existed, and he could not get rid of it. If he had
contented himself with the common-place argument, that
because the reformers had chosen, when they were in power'
to exclude the Church of England children, the conservatives
must, now that they were in power, do the same, and exclude
the Roman Catholics, he might have swain with the stream'
and not have given a mere negative vote. But he had felt
that, in a religious point of view, lie could not meet the
question in that way. Then again, there was a gentleman
who was constantly reminding him of the equivocal position
he occupied in that council; who told him lie must be re:
minded of the position in which he stood, and threatener'
him with the fate that awaited him in the ward he bad the
honour to represent. (" Bravo," from Mr. EARLE.) He
regretted that lie should have any difference with the bodY,
he had the honour to represent, but he had taken a goon
deal of pains to explain to them, that if they were dissatisfied
his seat was at their disposal in November last, as well as it
was in November next. He was always ready to do his duty'
but it must be done with honour and independence ; without
that he should feel himself as nobody, and lie did trust, when
this subject was settled, either one way or the other, De
should not be looked upon as the great heretic he was consi-
dered at present. In conclusion, he begged to say, that he
must do what he considered to be his duty on this occasion.
He, therefore, called upon the council not to lend themselves
to extremes, to beware how they joined themselves to those
who deemed the mere negation of Romish error more essen-
tial than the propagation of christianity ; he called OP°°
them to be charitable, and support some such system as he
had suggested ' • and above all things he called upon them to
"be just, and fear not !" He begged to move the amend'
went.
Mr. BLACKBURN spoke to order. lie apprehended that
the proposition just made uy Mr. Lawrence could not be
entertained, without notice having been given. To him it
appeared to be a substantive and distinct motion, upon a
special subject : notice of it, therefore, ought to have beet;
given. He agreed with Mr. Hornby, that the " manifesto'
was quite out of place) and he considered also that the pre-
sent proposal was informal in itself, for it was brought for-
ward in the shape of an amendment when it was no amend-
ment at all, and it raised the very question (though, perhaps'
not intentionally) which would supersede a motioreof which
he (Mr. Blackburn) had already given formal notice.
Mr. H. LAWRENCE submitted, that if there was no such
declaration as that made by the Education Committee, the
amendment would be informal; but as the system was there
specifically laid down, it was certainly competent for any
member to move an amendment upon it. In fact, if one was
irregular the other was equally so.
Mr. HODGSON, with great deference to the.opinion of Mr'
H. Lawrence, must say that Mr. Blackburn's observations
were perfectly just. It was not a motion at all which the
Education Committee had brought forward. They merely
brought forward their proceedings, which the council were
called upon either to confirm or reject ; therefore, the motion
subsequently proposed was irregular and out of course.
Mr. EARLE was just going to make a similar observation.
The principle had been all along established, and as far es
that went there was nothing new in it; but this amendment
was in direct opposition to the principle. It could net'
therefore, be entertained without notice.
Mr. HORNBY would make one observation with regard to
order, in consequence of a legal doctrine which had been
set up by the Town-clerk. If this system on the part or
committees was to •be established, there was an end to the
functions of the council. It appeared to him, if this princi-
ple was admitted, any committee !night be allowed to bring
forward any position, however strong or however strange,
and the council must receive it. This was quite a new prac-
tice. The council had hitherto been in the habit, when theY
saw occasion, of amending the proceedings of committees;
and if they now made an exception in favour of the Educatioel
Committee, they would be going wrong—and where would It
stop? Their powers and duties, as members of the council,
would be arrogated by the committees, which, in effect,
would become so many imperii in imperio. Such a system,
would absolutely swallow up the whole powers of the
council.
The TOWN-CLERK said, it appeared to him necessary that
the council should understand in what way the subject
of education came before them. It came before them not
merely upon the notice in the summons paper, but by the
proceedings of the Education Committee being, for two days
previously to the meeting, deposited in the office of the
Clerk of Committees, for the inspection of members of the
council. Those proceedings would clearly show that the
principle upon which education should be conducted had
been under the consideration of the committee; and the very
consideration of them should come before the council. He
conceived, certainly, that a motion like the present—that
the Education Committee should take into consideration cer-
tain views—was one that might be brought forward—nay, it
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