The Statesman.
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COIL3ION II ALL. •
Yesterday * Court of Common Hall was held
in the City of London, to take the sense if 'the
Livery, in relation to the late McKie which had
been.voted by the Cemmon.llall to be• presewted
to his Majest7,',.and the answer made thereto by
the Seetetary alt.Siate. Between %and 30Qcrof
the Livery weselsresent, and . the business icons.
menced et two Clicieck. -The Lord Mayor Was
greeted with cheeve and loud Minis, ns were also
*Mr. Sheriff litwod and Mr. Aldernsatt Goodlie.
Isere. Mr. AidermanCombe was. favourably re.,
7ceived ; but Mr; Alderman Shaw and Mr. Alder.
'man Atkins werchiused and hooted:vehemently.
Alderman Sir Wo Curtis was also very until..
'vourahly received:. •
Proclamation was thettmedeiby tks Cryttr,..rho
stated the purpose bf •convening *lite-Livery in
Common Hall to 'be, =to receive the:report of the
Sheriffs, in relatioteto the Address of the 7th of
December, voted by the Common Hall to be pre-
sented to his Majesty.
• The LORD MAYOR came forward, amidst
the acclamations of the Livery. lie stated the
bitsiness of the day to be, for the purpose of re:
eeiviug the Report of the Sheriffs,. upon the sub.
jest of the late Address, voted by the Livery in
COMmon Hall to be delivered to his Majesty.
That Report, the Lord Mayor said, be held in
Ms hand, and it should be read by the. Common
Cryer. It was now brought furwsrd per the con.
sideration of the Livery, and ha did hoPe they
would give to every Gentleman, Ishn elpressed
any desire to address them, it fair, outdid, and
impartial hearing—(applause).
The report was then read. It gate an atiomint
tit the Address and Petition bf the Lord Mayer,
Aldermen, and Livery of the City of London,
which were last agreed upon, to be presented to
his. Majesty, and which was to be prosetweil to his
Majesty by the Lord Mayor andSheriffi, with
directions for the City Remembrancer to wait on
the Secretary of State for the Home Department,
to know when his Majesty would be pleased tore.
ceive such Address and Petition ; that it was their
wish to present it on the nest day. That theSecre.
tar) of State proceeded to take his Majusty'r plc'.
sure Upon that subject. That on jthe day tol toe big,
the Secretary of State informed thy Lord Mayor
end Sheriffs, that agreeably to their •wishei he
had represented to the King it was their,wish to
present the Address and Petition to hie Majesty
at the Levee, and that it was his Majesty's plea.
sure that the said Address and Petition .should be
presented by him (the Secretary of Sate) to
King, in the same manner as all other Petitions:
are presented; except those of the two Ouiversi.
ties and the Corporation of London ; which had
invariably been the mode of presenting them
until within the last four years, when bis Majesty•
had discontinued his public Levee on account of
his defective sight. •The Lord Mayor informed
the Secretary of State that he bad then the Ail.
dress %Rh him, and wished to present it to his
' Majesty; when the Secretary of State offered' tie
fictive it of them immediately, to save them the
trouble of taking• it back again to their office ;
but the Lord Mayor sad Sheriffs declined that
r offer, conceiving that they could not, couststetiftly
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i with their duty to the Citizens of London;. ere.
sent their Address. and Petition- in any:talus..Aar'
-that, to his Majesty ill person.- That, on 00'4.3'
lowiug day, the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs waited
on the Secretary of St:goat WhitL;hall, aiiii Ald
to him the resolution of the Corporation
don respecting the presenting of an Address and
Petition by the Lord Mayor and Sher& to his
Majestrin person ; they stated the earl est desire
they had to perform their duty withoutinconveni:
nience to his Majesty, but they felt themselves
bound to declare they could not deliver the
Address and Petition in any other manlier than
to• his Majesty in person, and they, therefore,
hoped that the Secretary of State would eti.
deeeruur to prevail on his Majesty to receive
the Petition and Address in mien. The Se.'‘
cratary of State informed them, that having-
taken his Majesty's pleasure already, he did not
think it proper to take further steps upon that sob.,
ject; upon which Mr. Sheriff Wood eishedio,ob2;
tain an audience of the King : to which the Sarre.
tary of State said, that could not be had without
stating the object of it ; to which he said, the 0b..;,
'ject *as to know whether his Majesty would be'
;pleased to receive this Address and Petition in per-
ton at the Levee ; to which theSecretaryofStato
replied, that an audience of his Majesty could
got. be. granted on a subject on which his Majes.
tits pleasure had been already declared. On which
is Common Hall of the Livery of London was
-*aught proper to be convened, to take the (ter.
tiler directions of the Livery respecting the pre.'
fleeting of the said Address and Petition.
The-Livery testified, by applause, their appro..
bation of the conduct of the Lord Mayor and'
Sheriffs io these proceedings. • •
Mr. FAVELL than came forwartis for die'
purpose of taking the sense of the Livery, on ass.
tajn Resolutions, which he should offer to their
consi teration. He observed, that if the Ad.
dress and Petition, of which they had •itir clime
an account, from the Report which had'''.
res.l by the officer, bed
Majesty's Mi
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that Hall to the Royal firesence. As to the loy_
alty'uf all the branches of the community, It is
unquestionable—it was even conspicuous parti.:
cnlarly in our army and our navy; for, however
they might be employed, jidicionsly or injudi.
&only, they never deserted the standard of true
loyalty ; and it was not to be forgotten, that true
`loyalty was attended with zeal for the Constitu-
tion—not by that petit-maitre sort of politician,
whose whole* system consists IA praising every
Minister, and .wishing to centimes every abuse,
under the pitiful disguise of •" a dread of inn°.
ration," and " a reverence fur ancient systems."

Such was not the character of the true English
politician. Let its 'remember the brave struggle
which was made against the raising or ship-mo-
ney without the authority of Parliament ;" let us
remember the principles which brought in King
William, and the Act of Settlement, by which
the House of Hanover was Iced on the throne of
England ; let us remember those Sacred princi-
ples on account of which Sydney was sacrificed
on the scaffold, and for which Rufiel fefi, glori-
ously, in the field ! These were true principles, ,
upon which true English policy consisted ; far
they were the principles aeon which the best parts
of the Conititution of England were founded, and
;Net that despicable system of, selfishness by which.
IbiWsought to advance their fortunes by fawning
open power. Tbe.Livery of London were now,
bringing forward sentiments worthy of the atten-
Vett Of.the Sovereign. It was, however, neces..
lacy that the Livery should understand the cis.
cunistances by which the subject now under dig.
mission was surrounded. He should read what he
had to propose, and he should take the sense of
the Meeting, whether he should propose something
:else, which was of a different naturnfront that hu.
_wished to be adopted ; for he should be sorry to
'propose any thing that was not agreeable to the
genuitiC feelings of the Common Hall. His ob..
ject, and be was. sure it was theirs u well as his,
was to support the Constitution, and defend the
Throne against evil counsel, by approaching it in
idle language of Mills, and reminding his Majesty
of thane priviciplet which seated his faMily on
~that Throne on which he now sate.
Mere the Itrsolations were read by the Tows Clerk, for
*loch see our tint page.)
The first Resolution went to express it as the
undoubted right of the Citizens of London, in
Common Hall assembled, to present a Petition to
the King sitting on the Throne. He then read the
Resolution which recited the circumstances stated
in the Report, and ended in a determination in
, the Pivery to persevere in their right.
This eag the mode he should recommend to the
Livery. There was another mode ; that was, fo'r
the Common Hall to resolve to acquiesce in the
course prescribed by. the Secretary of State, of
leaving the Petition with him, instead of deliver.
41. it to the King in person. [No! no! no!
we! wo! burst out instOntanoously.]
Mr. FA VELL .observed, that be collected
eniagh from this to be satisfied that he need not
propose any Resolution of acquiescence in the
,rnothisropOsed by the Secretary of State upon this
occasion:
The next Resolution was, " to Initruct the Re•
presentatives of tho City of London, in Parliament,
Omni's'', in ttid_HOsnie. of Commous, for an Address
to the for.an litquiry into the late ExpedL
tiona to Flushing.end to Spain ; for an Inquiry •
`Alto the Expenditure of the Public Money ; into
Places, Pensions, and enormous Emeimiessia ter
tlnsee who did no Service to the State 014.1
Qirniptlons and Abuses, Ste: ; and fur the ado.,
Lion of such a Reform as may restore to us ft
ancient purity of the Constitution of England."
Lastly, That the Sheriffs be-directed to deliver
into the King's hand a (air copy of these Rawly,.
bon., signed by the Town Clerk. . •
This Speech and these Resolutions were follow."
ed by great applaise.
The lest Resolution bet
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ourore-notrced in public, then addressed
..e Livery.-41 seconding the Resolutions that
had been moved, he felt it necessary to take into
consideration the ttate of the. country, the Galatia,
'pus, circumstances and disaitrous consequences
which, had arisen from the system pursued by. Mi.
fillets. The refusal of Ministers,
,for •such . he
most consider,it, of receiving the petition in the
manner to which the Livery of London claimed
the' riot of preeendog it, involved in fact the
':gtrilPatitioaiag. The Livery of London hod
' ' ' ly •rmserted the right of delivering their
Npatithdis tto his Mgiesty on the throne; and
.althought ender certain circtunttenres, they had
not, at . all (jam, insisted on the exercise
of that right, his Majesty .had hitherto alwaYa;
received their At at the 'Levee; bet
inns that was a.* denied, It was at all times a
daisy/ens precedent to waive rights of any kind
Ccentierab# applaw) and if the liirery should
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suffer their Address to be presented through • I
-*of the Secretary of State, it was highly pro.
" -.wee would be read by his Majesty,
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praise
instead of texture) the _
.g that Address and Petition Would have
Men very different from that which it nut. lie
did not wish to prejudge tho ease of his Mejes.
ty's Ministers; but cerjain it was, whether
guilty or innocent, they were not particularly
anxious to be put upon their trial. lie had
thought it the strongest feature by which we
might distinguish between despotism and a
free government, that the approaches of the
Subject to the King on the throne should be'
easy of accuse ; because he knew that, under
despotic governments, every thing that was sum-
mary and violent took place, and no satisfaction
was ever given to the Subject, who indeed. ee.
ver was aHowed to approach the King with any
expression of his sentiments, however much he
feel or suffer ; and therefore free people
ought to be extremely anxious to take care that
these approaches and avenues, to the . Rapid I
ears should not be awaked op, or reoffered If Itioisteso
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dititilf of access. by say 'edit* let those who dull by the adoptive of wise .and prudent In„
enityleaoand the Royal Person ; becanie every ' sures, therstenield be no reason why they sho,7„,
frlitotto order and good governmeet should be dread the test of exathination. It, howe,„ -•
uneven: on that subject ;, and he conceived that the contrary, the whole of their measures
;we of the best proofs that could be given of at. but one seriewof blunders, mistakes, entraya
techosent to his was that of warning him, and incapacity, it became indispensibly
respectfully, against the evils of bad councils ; for for the Livery of London to convey their Intl
it was as esseatial to guard against them, as to to his Majesty, that by knowing what were
guard against the common enemy. Ile knew that conduct of Ministers, and the sentiments et,
bad Ministers alUayeshrunk from the public vat% people, he might take such measures to relsob
and from publit Inquiry behind the throne ; and al- "them from his Councils as might prevent til;
ways wished tts represent those who were dissatis_ from multiplying the disasters or the nation, f,
fled with their conduct, as persons disaffected to the was lamentable to compare the 'absurd and
King and to the Government, and, as such, ene elle conduct of the present Ministers with tbs7ii
mica to the country. This they did merely to the great Chatham, whose measures were marked
save. themselves, if possible, from disgrace; and witfi true vigour—a statesman who &idolised (glib%
therefore, for their self-preservation they loaded anystep that approached the charecteruf imbecile
the friends of their country with obloquy. That All the actions of that extraordlaary genies
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would not prevent the people from seeing that truly great man were stamped with prompt sad'.
the best proof of loyalty, and even of attach. gorons decision—and the energies of We 6.1:;
ment to the King himself) was .to tell hies the proved at all times more than equal to the °Wad
truth. This had been done by the Citizens of ho had to surmount. IV* had, of hie, he,
London, in their
,Address and Petition to the much boast of vigour; bat since the time of
Throne, Which the Secretary of Stale had, hi. great Statesman, we hall seen nothing that del
thorto, succeeded in stopping in its passage from the name. It was a frequent and a very just._ .

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ration, that those men wore the most loyal,
were the truest and best friends of the country,
exerted themselves to remove from the Cara,
of his Majesty, Ministers, by whose conduce s
country was disgraced, and by whose (netsurfs
had been brought into the most dangerousaud ea
lamitoos situation that bad ever born known...
'L attachment of the City of London to his
jetty, it *as impossible tu doubt—and be *semi
tremely anxious that his Majesty they'd be fully
informed of tha sentiments they cote/Mined—doe
sentiments were unequi►ocally expressed is Oleic
Address ; and all that was now desired was .0
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snob Address should be delivered to. his Majesty:
fur, unless it were so delivered to him in persoe,by
the Sheriffs of London, it might •not, and probably
never would, reach his Majesty, through the Sect,.
tary of State. Viewing this as being of the sum
importance to the welfare of the nation, and t
rights and privileges of the City of London, he fdt
great 'pleasure in seconding the motion of the trill,
worthy and respectable Gentleman who had pro,
ceded him.—(Mr. Jones's speech was received
with extraordinary approbation and apple:m.l.
.[The whole of the Resolutions were thee read.]
Mr. W AlTHMAN.—Although I might ha*
availed Myself of • another opportunity of deli.
vering my sentiments, the reason of pretend%
myself before yoti at so early a period is, for the
. purpose ofsxplaining a circumstance that occurred
at the last Commou Hall, which, from the manger*
which it went forth to the world, might from sists.
presentation or misapprehension be prsjudicialts
the individuals, who were the sit quiet of theolnet.
vation to which I allude; Is making, at that tiny
some remark's on the lavish- expeelliture of tits
public money, I. took occasion to allude to 'eta..
tam individual fa-nilics, who derive consider*,
emu! men t not of the public revolve, of the men.
try, and what I then said'was, in spteek.
misrepresented in . the public news: ate. tik
may. have arisen, paylly from the meal ph.
apprehension of the Reporters, by whom I milk
nut have been distinctly aedibleweed,ptsesibly,ov,
w from -my not having explained nays*rttl
accuracy and precision which theinhjed 'egg's.*
I therefore feel it an act of justice to the is&
victuals, whe were the subjects of these remarks,
and also to the Public, and to myself, to espial&
to this assembly what it was my lineation to have
stated. At the last Common Rail I
stated, w
certainly did intend so to have done, that than
were certain individuals who derived emols.
went' from the public revenue of this colony,
its some way or other, either by pension, ph.
eels, or reversions, to the amount of 301 40, w,
perhaps, 50,0001. per annum. The indrriclealste
whom I then alluded were the Marquis of Hertford
and Lordtastlereagh—britthesums 'which I they
stated its round numbers to have been received bj
thoie noble individuals, were, in the reports ofdW.,
newspapers, considerabllextmided beyond whet I-
had•statyd, which inaccuracy 1 have Du doubt
arose from the cause that I have already mend**
—it was also,• from the same cause, 'erre/mom*
stated, that I had asserted sucli.sosolunseetui.
have been received by cads of those Noble I '
viduals, which certainly was not, by any meant,
scion I designed to say. 'lt 'was my intentim to
have stated the emoluments• so derived from the
)sublic revenues to hare been' received by tbs
joint families of 'the Noble Individuals—awl
nut that . each family received clanks:went to
the amount specified by me. Such being my tive
meaning and intention, I feel it particularlylnage•
bent on me to correct the misapprehension which
must, without an explanation from myself; his
continued to.exist on the subject. lt-may net
improper, at the same time, to 'remark, dent ibot
I then asserted did not origlatitestii*46yself, Ht
was founded on purlieus appeared to
the public neweweesi TVs: se months • • '
to =Nett the families of 'the 'Mama' '
ertford and Lord Castlereagh
.derived trundle
public revenue, either in salaries from otbeessid
places, the duties of sihich were executed pogo.
natty or by deputy, emoluments amounting ta
36,0001. Ou ahe accuracy of this statement;
hive oili.the'intbority of 'the particular west*
per in which I 'sale it ; but that stet '
never having been contradicted or 'publicly
!limed, during a period of more than Mt
months, I tiertaitsly presumed to be correct.
'think it at the lame time necessary to observe, that
such portion of those emoluments as were derlo*
by Lord Castlefeigh from the high Dike WO
he at that time keld,_hive necessarily •olost
from the moment of his retiremmit limos
fice, which has materially eetincad the ametlet°
'emolument from what it Wes , when the ofeeifij
statement, to which I hue, Alluded, was
fished. I have been.. this • :sere particular
.stating these •cireumstasees, as. well from
nedent desire in nu instance whatswor to ored!
the bounds of truth, u from a sense of duty '
performing an act of. justice towards those Nob
Personage., who will, I trust,. in their CON I
me the justice to believe that I shall meter 6
shame in correcting any error or snisconcoo4.
which !•taby hey. bcu though innocently or