The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-05-26 00:00:00

'Fit tATESMAN,

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Ott Tent ready hhj willing to adept ply widest le. and theft I shall adobe yol la broef dot zdt ;mkt drawer ft •• Mt. litintkrr.—Mr. Letell did rick make any direct appli4
.. . . with proper attention: Catio.
• Laid Eu.rtwousenst.—lie is Said td be silt upon/ st mission td
which your *Latruship may think proper to .
such a case a$
this. . -• ' l .• I , ~,, IVilties examined by Atri Seiiittaii.. ••
s„ see whether that tinfortunate Monarch would abdicate, and then
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Lord Ett.tmaoaoton—We eadttot *Widest* tl 'AM you acquainted with Mr. Lewis Paidtaiths. the Defend. he Aires elders to his agent rat Wareirr, if he did tun, to seize
Juror in this erase, iti you can only assail one another ant ?—x es, 1 am. ' and kill him—t !Leading brief. with Sonic parts of the Libel.]
flow long have you known him I—About two years.
Me, Seeettert,—Mr. Lovell did charge him with proposing
through the medium of the Jury, and their go.cld no yen know whether he he the Proprietor of the Arniginti! I the ahassination of Lewis XVIII. to iteaaparte.
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"litunii"r and ,intitradican Caroled. I—l do not know it, Ldrd Etatentotouswee-Yieu detail him first. and theu he its-
sense will protect the one against the 'alyment Of
n you swear ?-1 am upon my oath. sails Mr. 'elven, as being unfit to be a linen-dr-ewe, and, there-
da makes which thd other would not be entitled to .te- i • ?Lb ydu know whether Mr. Goldsmith resides at 291, in the fute, Unfit tb he a politician. There is no spes•t:if de'risags; laid ?
to flail re.tvS,ctft:it
CeiVe. Strand? —I believe he does. • ,
1 . Don't von know that he. does ?—l.dop't know, as it is a shop et
hp; .—ho,
o , particulartayaLouurdsio.ns Iffiadwi will
innotwhaCtar.iltiaier7inti.KlSere
Mr. GARROW—One person would rejoice, gnu i •
or the' sa le•of straw hats. meastuu apply to Mr. Lovell.
another would be disappointed. The person rejoic-. Vim know that such a Newspaper is published there 1-1 do.
.ThDRNJASLIZI R4rElr, examined by Mr. St .snail
i :.,_llpon eour oath don't you know that Mr Guldsmi h receives Are you acqdainted with Mr. Lovell s yes, Sir.
ing would be him who would take the labour of , , . t
toe profits of it I—flie profits don t pass through my hands,
--, and De is the Editor of the STATESMAN I—lie is not Editor, but
proving the truth of the allegation he makes. '-- r-iliS Iso i don't know it. .
he it the Proprietor.
tan only be done for the sake of blazoning onedno- Don't you know it Awn himself;-/'don't know it from him-
he
him
: liebas often spoken to me of other person being concerned Have you read that Paper I—(producing the*
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ther ; and being a foolish proceedirt7, altogether, j, with lathe paper, at least that there were IriMer persons 31;noilywoin—Yes,
Swirly' the!' the person alluded to in that Paper
Will agree to enter a stet procnotis in ours, if theyt [llk.. be had to eoesoit with a hen I have been making an esti. ~
isithdraw a Juror in this, and then the parties may 1 mate of the price of printing. , . was Mr. Lovell'?
-1 would net take k up& myself to swear it
" et Don't you know from Mr. Goldsmith that he is the Proprietor is* but I believe it is M. Lovell.
'What are your reasons for believing it to be Mr. Lovell ?
let their favourite tribunal, the public, decide be- iof the Paper I—No further than what I have stated •he satesl el" As, from his heiug Proptietot of the STATESII %M. I ant iu the
tween them. . pressed the necessity of consulting oilier-, Sib that 1 could not •
habit of seeing that Paper, and I believe, it alludes to him; I
Mr. Sc t ntrrT.—l would personally be very happy, , lear wleether he were the Ag',llt °.."..he Proprietor. have no further reason, Sir.
,tile. Lewes.---11y Lord, Lie uesendant is charged as the „
Were ft in my power to consent to what you pro- : Posprietor and Publisle•r Ihe publication alluded to in that Paper is the STATE/MA% ?
jar" tei
pose, but lam not so authorized, and therefore I 1 Mr. SEARLE r r.—Aly. Learned Friend jemps before he comes
to the stile.— What he alludes to is in the Wet count, which is al- wing the Paper for the wituesstd reitd.)-1 never read that
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must now proceed to call m) witnesses.
.ready disposed of. /=that the public-alien alluded to. —(sbelvitfg another Papet,
Teen he „non .tei yo ,to make an estimate of the ex pence of the SrATesSION.)-1 never read any of them. .
Jar. Iv, I. LI ..t M Br. 11Kr. examined by Mr. Cn mVN. I peiiin this Pae , but eler as an Agent or PCoerietur be Lord elesessuitooen.-1 must, in order to make it but to be
Q. I believe you are one of the Solicitors for Mr. Daniel Lo-she publication of die STATESMAN, go through the proof' that it
, did t
ootinform your?
—lfe did not inf:rm me.
is the STITES% IFI published by the elaintilf.
yell I—.l. Yes, I am, ' 1)41 yon make the estimate for him I—Yes, in the common
Q. Is he Proprietor of the Sharman Newspaper 1--Yes, he course of business, and delivered it to him, he having applied to Mr. Geenow.-1 will admit that the copies of the STITES-
is. • me to du so. . NAN produced, are published by Mr. Lovell, 'fete first the
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to the witness is dated London, Tuesday the 25th of June, 1811;
Was he so in the Months of August and September last ?—Yes, %viten you had made that estimate was the Paper afterwards
he u as. published ?-Ises, Sir.
repeated?—Yon, 1 did 1
i and the second is dated the 13th of August.
Gave you an extended copy of the record of the indictment 1.i.01d you know Mr. Lovell once ai a linen-draper ?—Yes, Sir.
leld you render him an account of the
1 haie (pruderies- it). ! -Did you deal with an • other person than hint I—No other. . And he since became the Proprietor of this Newspaper?—Yes,.
Did von examine it with.tbe original record I—Yes, I etil.• i Has he
paid
you 1
—IL um% . Sir.
rained It with the original record with the Clerk of the Arraigns I ' And you know of no °Wei person but him concerned in it 1-s- I Do yea know any thing of the transaction of bins, mentioned
at the Old Bailey. : I do not knots anv other, to the a I nli.allicaa ,Venitor I ---1 never saw any thing of the
lard EILENBOROEGE.—There certainly ought to be an order e Row long ago is that I—The estimate was delivered eighteen* ,
I kind, but I"know both of the parties.
of Nee Court for a person gating at the Records : it ought to be months „inn. Lord ELeeesonoucu.—They have justified the proof, &c. as
under the authoretv of the Attorney-General. / Ilan the Paper been published ever since down to the present" ft stands.
str. 00w.s.li,Nly Lord, that has been obtained. 'thee I—Yes, it has. Mr. S.:Alma-tee-1 am only prosecuting thls enquiry, in order
Here the record of the Indictment alluded Cu, dated Sept. 13, And von have rendered yonr accounts to Mr. Goldsmith and to eh es, that it is Mr. Lovell teat is alluded to in the transaction
was put in and neut. ' ' received the ex pence 1-1 hair. nientieued in that Paper, a. relating to him.
Mr. Geitaow objected to the jrregnlarity of its form, and You rendered accounts to nu other person during the whole From the transaction stated inthat Paper. th: .4etigattiran
said, "if thee end stated that at the Session of Ayer and Ter- period I—To no either penon. ilonii,r, and the history in that Newspaper, du you 1 elieve that
sniper, in the 'Old Bailey, he was tried and acquitted, it would Mr. Ge
nnow.-1 submit that my Learned Friend must re lire Lovell is the person alluded to ?-- I have naidoubt Drill
hive dune; they state that it was at the Just ii e Hall for the City further; this witness only states, that the Defendant aas au' evil- Cross-examined hy Me. G.lnnow.
of Loudon, in life Old Bailey ; now that is not true, fur be was vocal character; he has no knowledge of him, nor does he know What is the nature of your oceupatiou, that you ere svo Inas
In-
indicted !t Guildhall, in the City of London. • . that he were Proprietor or part Proprietor of the concert, but metelyaccpusinted with Ir. Lovell ?—I knew hint when be fiat I
Lord Feassettauoms.—The indictment most he an indict- he merely knows that he made an estimate of the expeoce of cause to London, 30 years ago ; he was then a linen-draper; lie
ment emud as tne proper course would be ; they state the cap- printing and delivered it to him. went into the etanche;ter nue, and afterward+ went abroad, and
Coe of theendietment at Guildhall, but no such indictment came Lord ELLENIIIIROOGII.—IIe has received pay from him. when he came hack again Ise came to be Proprietor of the
on to he tried by a Jury at stieli a place. Mr. GARROW.—Mr. Goldsmith may be the Agent uf '2O other theseesx %X. 1
Mr. (:eamow.—'that is our objection, my lard. persons. Your Lordship will recollect in a former case that , I asked you what the nature of your occupation wax, so that
Mr OtTIiVEY. It goes onto state io another part, " the Set- came before the Court, it appeared that all the Auctioneers of i you became acquaiuted w ith him ?-1 was a hair-dresser, and
don at the Old Bailey." the City were Proprietors of a Newspaper; there were no less : dressed hi, hair.
Lord ELLLNIIIIROUGM.•-Trllt it may go on, but it also goes than 300 persons concerned. IVtienever they make him out to I Was that the only business you did ?—Whet 1 was with the
aft. be a Proprietor he' shall be answerable. This Gentlemen ape .Sy eveswee, I was emplsyed by him, and staid with hies as d
Mr. !knit:rte.—l submit that it is a mere inducement stated pears at a certain period to have gone to the Stamp-Dice with' servant.
lathe indictment, a certain suns of money, and it appears that there was Agency, • Is that the only kind of service
,you was engaged in with him
lard ELEENSoROVGE.—It is a description of the caption of but that would not makes person a publisher. A person may be —I was servant to him.
Indictment which I cannot get over, as it constitutes the aught,- : sick and may ask another to do some part of his duty, be may Then you are retired-upon your fortune, or what have you
city for the finding of the Bill. Trying and ihilieting are not
ask him to call at the Stamp-Office, or to call and ask what is the beet, promoted to now 1-1 belong to the Mar.
the same thing ; neither a the Guildhall "d the Old Bailey the 1 expense of doing so and so in that case such a person is only Dil YOU snuff the star, or what is your office I—l collect in.
I.
same thing. lan Agent or a Factor. • form:aim about the 'Change, in the same way as I did fur the
Mr. SCA itLETT.—The same strictness of proof is not necessary, SCATIMMAN.
as this is merely an induernent which explains the matter of the : ' Cross-examined b,y Mr. G.innotr. .
It us as uot on account of his misfortunes, and his going to
libel, ann seas an inducement which states that he was indicted. Do you mean to represent that you ever acted for Mr. Gold-
' Newgaie, that you broke ow with eh. Lovell ? Nu, Sur, I had
Lard r ewd liter is en allegation material to the es- , smith en his character as a Proprietor?-1, never had reason to little connection with him, except going there in the morning,
wince and existence of the action, and therefore we must call the, i consider him as a Proprietor. and coming away at night ; I had no connection with the pub-
Pkenele. I Then from any thing you know of him he might he a erion
Hiking of the-Piaster, but only a ith the furnishing of articles.
Mr. Sceemer.--My Lord, there is another Count. receiving moors-, or acting as an Agent fur another I—lie has Do you get a higherprice t r false, or for true news ; au, I
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Mr. Genitew.—My Lord, I have an objection to the further ' stated repeatedly to me the he did act for others. must not ask that as it is unfair ; but being intimate with Mr.
proceedings; %hitt, I think, is unanswerable. The Plaintiff! And you were confidential with him from the nature of your I Lovell, you can tell me fur now maize mouths past has he been
berets by stating, that a certain fact existed, viz. that he, the situation I—Yes, Sir. endeavouring to write Mr. tioldsmitfi out of society ?-1 have
Pleiniite, had been tried for felony, and had been acquitted ; I nothing to do with his affairs.
that is a substantive faer which he states as an inducement to Examined in chief by Mr. SCA ItLETT.
Have you nut discovered that which I allude to in looking fur
every one of Ms Conroe and he has failed to prove that tact. I Do you mean to say, that you are uncertain whether he be the your own valuable communicatioes from the 'Change 1-1 lave
Lard ELLEEBOROVGIS.—T rt hat is apa of his first Count, and • Agent for the Proprietors, or the Publimet for himself, or one el
not.eng to do a ith the gfr ATitsMAN, I do not rem, it.
Has first Count cannot contaminate the other, unless the secoud of the Proprietors himself I—Yet, I do. You particularly avoid the hsreeiressee 1-1 do, Sir, I very
refers to the first, and there is no reference to that statement in If he be not the Publisher, have you any doubt that he was an I seldom see it, except the fruit ;I do not read but a very little.
the first Count. You may therefore go on with your examine- Agent. ('Phis question objected to.) Don't you know, that for the good of the world, for some
time Can you mention any person as being concerned in it besides months past, Mr. Lovell has been writing sine les in these Daily
have von got the eintigallice. Manila, and etntieorsicern himself?-1 cannot. Papers, I wont call them libels, against Mr. Goldsmith, and
fersatets of the 15th Sept: 1811 I—Yes, I have. Then you know of no other person but himself in the Paper 1 writing kiss down nsa retirement, as a spy, a- traitor, and one
Where did you get that I—At Noe WI. in the Strad. —1 know of no other person cuunected with me but himself. that ought to be hanged 1-1 have never Seen them.
Do you know whottse Publisher of that Paper is ?It par- He employs you to print it I—Yes, Sir. Do you meant to swear that you do not know that that was his
ports to be published to, Lewis Goldsmiths. Then you print it by Ws direction 1--Yes, I do. daily employment 1-1 know It only from general conversation j
Do you know Mr. Goldsmith yourself? I teem hint by sight, Where is it publiihed ?-.-In. the Straod, with other people.
Sir. . •Ae No. 2911—Yes, Sir. Did you not hear him mention Mr. Goldsmith's name I—Not i
et .
Gross-examistrd by Mr. G4llnOtr. Does he know that ?—1 cannot say that be dews not: the Pa. as a traitor.
Do you not know, that both before and since the 15th of Sept. Pen'
takes printed by me, and the.person authorised by him comes 'Always with respect ?—I won't say that either.
die day on. whitli that Paper purports to be published, Mr. Lo- and them away. - Have you nut heard him state his name with disrespect 1--T i
Yell, In his statement, had inserted a great variety of charges By whose direction was, neat Mr. Goldsmith's name was in- won't say that, for I have heard him repeatedly pronounce his .1
against Mr. Goldsmith, stating him to be a spy and traitor? • serted ?—By his own direction. seine without any disrepect at all.
Mr. Srsteerrr.—l have no ()ejection to his proving the Paper Mr. Genitow.—That is prene.foric evidence, that he is the , Were you in the habit of reading the ether Paper alluded to 1
and readiog it, but I object to tuts mode of questioning the wit- Publisher, but it does not make hint Proprietor and Publisher, .
—No, lettought both of them bad publications, 1 did not read
/WM. . although these are expel:lf:jots whin run through the whole of - either of them. S . '• •. .
Lord ELLsemonoren.— Non /Split, that the Papers he proves i the record. Mr. Geastow.—(To the witness.) I now agree with you so
are those of the Tit'r __ATOMS!! he wholes to. I Mr. LAW'S:v.—My Lord. these are expressions that run through completely in that which you have first stated, that we will now
Do you nut knew dent before and since the 15th of Sept. Mr. the whole of it as I have just ascertained on looking over it. t part friends.
Lovell had published the pout severe aniinadsereions he could Mr. Sceneurr.-1 submit that there is full evidence to ga to
Mr. J.t.x Es CILiDn'ICK, examined bs. Mr. GURNET.
publish against Mr. Goldsmith, charging him with being a trai- the Jury that he Is the Proprietor. The material part or the .
tor and asp) ? I beg to refer to his Lorthhip, that as the Solicitor come Is, that he printed and publisbed lu a certaianewspaper. Stave you riled that Paper (sbewing the+ Antigallican Mont-
tit • lorll—Y es, Sir.
of Mr. Lovell, I ass not bound to answer that question. That be printed is clear, as he employed this witness to prat . Who is
t. .
to in that publication I—DanieL,
Lord Etaxetwatotteu expressed an opinioo, that the witness nod that be published is clear as his name is added to it as such _
Lovell, the Proprietor of the Sees-newest.
was not bound to answer' he question. publisher. It is at least evidence to go to the Jur. front Mr. .
otter /lave you any doubt of it 1--Norte at all, -
Have you not, in conversation a ith Mr. Lovell, independently Goldsmith's treating with this person, and be knowing no o :
of that over and over again beard from him, that he had en- Person, I submit that he is the Proprietor. Cross-examinmi by Mr. L.twEs. . . ,
gaged in a warfare to exteirminate Mr. Goldsmith as a spy and a Mr. Geattow.--This is no evidence ref that fact ; they must Why do you think so 1-el'or the reason assigned • in Illte Court
traitor? All the conversation that has passed, has been since the take all that their witness has stated, which is, that in his con- this dity.
commencement or this actioo, and has therefore a reference to fidential conversation he, Mr. Goldsmith, led him to believe that Who are you ►l-1 live at Brisooe-causeway,
_I keep a shop
my character asa Solicitor. • there were other persons proprietors. They may be infinitely there.
11r. GeenowS—Tben I wont ask you that question. . numerous as in the rase of the tidy, but this does not make hint Lord Eet.estamaounn.—llis pew bf residence or occupation
Mr. LIONEL' BOOTH, examined by .31r. GEIREIi. out to be the Proprietor, and not even the publisher. The wit- cannot be materiel.
nets saes. he told him that lie, Mr. GaidEtnidl, must consult Mr. SCARLIETT.—My Lord, I ?Mold wish to shorten the cue
You are of the Stamp-office ?—Yes, Sir. others, and then for others, as the a norm: believes, he gave him as much a. risible, my only object in putts ug these Papers iti,
Slave you a tlewspapts return from tbstt Office, of the d• • I ncl'' h ref through le h bad dealt ito *be di M Lovell ' the Krum alluded to.
.. - S s. treasons to prm:eet , a i e oerum. e .
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Anrigaltl an Mostit.m-- aid dnticursican Chriniicle, of the 15th
at Sept. lag ?—its, Sir. • •
lia.e you a Paper purporting who is the Proprietor and
Publisher of that Pieper?—lt is vacationed upon the Paper it-
self; that is. the Paper which was scut to me.
Ilere the Paper of the 15th Sept. *as banded in Mr. Lawton,
ter tierk of the Court, who read from It the cords, " London :
l'rinted by T. Harper, No. 4, Crane-court. Fleet-street
and PutiliAhed hit L. Goldsmith, at. Nu. *tit, Strand.—(r-
der.: for this Paper will be-likewise rreeived by Mr. J.T. Smith,
Itosal Est:4w, ),Alinbterght" &c. &c. -
liy whom It the duty upon ihm •Papec.paid. at the Stamp-
-0 dire ; is it 1, tid to you personally ?—lie came, and 1 made out
the warrant. •
In 's bat character did he came to you understood bias to
be the Proprietor of the -Paper. •
liar Mr. Goldsmith come more than once N---1 do not remem-
ber that he hat ciliate more once. • '
When was it t-1 cannot say when it was, hut I suppme it
was four or dye IMMO% ago. •
Mr. (laattow.,--Ji TW is subsequentto the publication, and
that won't do."
Lord rt.t.Ensoioucs.—" It most include the Paper cositain-
lug the libel."
• Ecomincd.by Mr. GURNEY.
When he eame.to volt tie made as to
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ith them upon the subject of the Proprietors. I submit that
th a does not make him a publisher, aad still leis a Proprietor.
Lord ELL6NEDItOII:GH.—VOII must bring it to the particular
point of time &lidded to in this caw. Here is n person who
proves, that about the month of October, or four nr five 'nooths
ago, a sum of moon p 6114) paid by Me—Goldsmith, and that he,
the witness rums the Stamp-Office, was Dot to go to Harper but
to him—[Reading that evidence] —now that &tootle; to a subse-
quent period, and I am to nvisure the proof by itself. Sop-
posing that be was proprietor to the minith of October, 1 think
it is no evidence to be left with the ury that he was the Proprie-
tor at an antecedent period, oar does it sheer that be was the
Proprietor, w hirh acquires an importance la consequence of the
Act of Parliament.
ticeatvri.—lt is printed for Lewis Goldsmith.
Lord EILLENBOROV6II.-- If there were no other Proprietors,
then he would be the Proprietor," no other Proprietor ap-
peasing. Nan aepereatibrg, son f ith.ngibOa• I thick there is
evidence that this witness published for the Defendant es Pro-'
prietor.
Mr. Oa num.—Then I shall ask Mr. Harper some more ques-
t ions,. after the paper is read.
Here the Libel charged, contained% the Paper entitled the
A ntigallieim Minute', and 4nlieoreiran Chrenirtt, of the 15th
of September, was put in, and read by Mr. Lowtea, the Clerk
of the Court

....e some applicatio. _ what
you were to do —He told incmet was but. to carry thi notice to !
Mr. Harper of the adiertisprueut duty , as that was •t 4 be seat
AI him.
1/id be my any thing more?--No more,
Did you make two the aorrant for hint ?-1 made out for him
tbe warrant—l mean the iuMjoe. •
How long ago was iu the hest of your recollection ?—I
think it was ahont t he in % of Hitt/her law; but aloud sure:
What duties wcgc tten euniott say.
Mr. OARROW.—" I Oita tA that qtteSUOlt ass „those duties
appear truss the wartime.'
Lord lizasatnoaorous.—" Yon Mean the duties dot for the
advertivreems is the Aptigollicais Alurdior.' .
Mr. Oros ay.--" Yes, my Lord."
How much duty was due ?.--He came to pay the duties that
Were then due.
According to the come of office, bow many weeks'. Odes of
months' duties w ere them due ?—The custuin is to gr./At one:south
and ten days.
What time of October was this /—I really cannot my.
Have yon any paper to aaibt your memory ? —Noy I have not
anv here, but 1 bare papers at the Stainp-(thee that would.
tell me.
1 Had
w_ you euspasee aim upon a former occasion ?—Nerer, that ,
knopf.
Mr. Thomas Harper was then called, as a witness, hot before
exanatuation be stated to the Coon, •• I submit, my Lord, to
/uattonsidersitionorbetber I am competent as a Witness in this,
orate, 4sviag had notice of an action fro printing the Libel.
Lord Ezatimoaovon.—Perhapsthat would he considered only
at an excuse, but if the questions cimtaia criminal matter, you,
ontrobjett to answering any thing that would make you appear
ce”rtioal. If you object to any particular question *at is put
to you, the. I will boar you, as we shall bear wet the qualsoa

Mr: Lswes.-.Does it appear to be a Weekly Paper I
Al r:Lowtpc—No Sir.
Lord littinnsoanvoc—ls it alleged to he en?
Mr. Lawita.—Yea, it is alleged throughout to be a Weekly
Paper. . ... •
.431 r. jlegirEa re.ealkd,• and examined. by Mr.
T._ i SCARLI:TT.
Ii it a Weekly Paper S—Yes, Sit.
Lord EttassoactotaL—All that Ur- Lowteo is reading is
surely not IleceS,Ory to be read.
Mr. SC IlltLFTT.—Tliolie parts which are trot set out is the Libel
ate material to skew the connection of the Libel with Mr. WI
1 vellt I will thank yudr Lordshilt to allow Mr. Lowtert to raid"
the first part of the instruction of Bonaparte, in order to skin
the Cou&eCtiOO.
• [Here the first part of the instructions was read.] ,
Alet•Sesittret.--I only put it upon this point of view,p2l
front the whole of the public:saints of Mr. Goldsmith, it all
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that he alludes in this l'aper to Mr. Lovell.
Lord httresonouGu.—lle states that this proposal was rem
fused by Lewis XVIII. with the dignity Oin h,•canie a (lour-'
bon and a King, sad then Bonaparte sealltestructions to this-
!
emisnry at ‘Carpaw, which has thinks, pApper to quote. This,
cannot chew the connection you shade I_, bee Ile case wilt at last
be, asst at Seat appears, that you (theuatieset for the Plaiatitt)
I were the firsvaggrevor is the foal tlkrawn nit 4040,
Ihi r. Goldsmith f and then, it is true, Asia dope*
place. . . ,
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Mr. Gsaisow.-1 sun ready to do what yaw limallikli) 'bob
posed Nag ago. 4' 1 .• • a:
Lord Eta.swoonoticw.--lrbere is certainly strewjMYiellt'tt
fcresce, or that which is endeavoured I. hefi
is ant well-fouuded.

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yod sale thin I tedfidt *flit, hi My Mat I tort Alio(' to hi.e
irriteris this is h hat I will complain of; Let us do as we did
in the came of Anduttly Pasquin i Ls is stk.' »natal, in those
claims *lnch be put id for separatism tut havlog been tree/di:y.l
as an author, he were Not a man who had aaniniketed all preten-
sions to Character, and a 'tether on that neeumit lee could riot he
ennsidered competent to complain df the Modeler of smother: I
tempi:On of Mr. Lovell, from the manlier in which he appears
lei this Cause: Ile finds Mr. Goldsmith publishing a poprr rein-,
tire to his sums/Ned knon ledge of the. Fret cabals awl trie:i.
of the ('whin of France, and stating, that (Herr was a prriekl owl:
the persim who exerriseet the Sovereign Authoyltv of Prance
was disposed to cut of the legitimate and tinforifinate exiled
Monarch. Ile states, that a person suns snit ti ith the chas.w lel
of a British subject, in order to niahe a proposition to the
exiled Prince, that if he would abdicate tine theane Certain d-
vantages would accrue to him : and Mr. Goldsmith add*, that
the proposition, Has reircierl a nth the dignity of a lipoirhon ;old
• n king; upon a hiih Bonaparte sent certain ilistrdetiow
to his emissary at Wareisr. It was tteit stated that art fi•
the mask of a mission of a British schject, be pohned a po's
nard to his breast, in °sleet() destroy the life of that unfottuisim
: Monarch, mid then he proposes, in an angry mood, to cxecitie
another person. The Plaiutiff, in animadverting upon thi4, .
states, that Mr. Gokismith had been selected as the U1t.:414411r let
this foul assassination I and he has inseracted his Counsel to. my.
how he did become acquainted with this cireminstanee, dole:; he
himself was the emissary ? Are there no meow, 1 would ask, by
which the orders given by a deep blood-trained principal tb an
agent are sometimes otherwise disclosed than by the person or
persons to whom the communication is made ? I fancy that rho
person who would issue such an order would nut be extremely
well Omand to haven' individual, in the pay of :mother, in his
own presence, without a third permii intervening. Arc ob. I
say, the secrets of these horrid deeds (as we learn by experience
I they are) divulged by other means than according to the base in'
siottation, that the person who states them to the world must have
been the very person who was sent by the 'tyrant to perpetrate
the deed? Mr. Lovell states, not only that the Defendant was
the person sent to Warsaw to cut off the Count de Lille, but
: even that he gave the advice to Bonaparte to assassinate OW an*
. , fortunate Monarch. Upon what authority does he state it?
i Upou nothing, but merely upon the authority of the Publicas
lion alluded to, which states the intrigues of the l'abinet of
France. Upou that alone he reasons; nod says, that Mr. Geld-
! smith was not only the intended assassin, but the projector of
dint foal asclesikition. It appears by the papers put iii. and this
nee ech of my Learned Friend, that tnere was a sithsequent poi-
lie:aqua of Mr. Goldsmith's' as to the formation of a society to
assaminate Bonaparte. The first represents the Defendant us an
En :ash subject having access to Bonaparte in France, and that
he wi.L. to cut off the Count de Lille; and having faded in that
aitempt, be' comes to 1:oglauil, Mid states himself to he tilt head
lof the association for the purpose of as-assinating Bona•
{carte.—Now, vet as see with what candour and propriety
I -Mr. Lovell makes this charge agniust Mr. Goldsmith, when he
j states that Mr. Goldsmith is raising a band of others for this de-
strectlve object. Iris consistent with my duty, as Counsel for
Mr. tiohisnoth, to state the nature of his, the Defendant's, rea-
soning. hot astir whether his plans be reasonable or unreasoo-
able' 1 do not enquire; he reasons thus :—" I could she* you
I that it is lawful to go to war, and that it is lawful to make war
saccesiful by the attainment of Peace, and to effect that object
by all the means in our power, in order that the enemy may he
destroyed. If you meet the enemy in the field it is lawful to
• destroy him, nod equally so as It would be in regard to the
Imeanest of his subjects engaged in war with you ; their object is
to carry on a successful war, and get peace ' • my object is the
same, but I will go somewhat further and 1 will thew that it is
lawful to cutoff the machine, the spring from which that war
loriginates, and to effect that object by assassiantion, and that is
similar to ;none of his own deeds, which being deeds of blood
I would justify our retaliating mum him, and making him nu es-
I ample. Ministers," be says, •• lune means to carry on mile
wart but I have other means." Perhaps, with the vanity cf a
I writer they may lie such as could not enable him to accomplish
I his olvieri ; but as these tientlenteo, who are Editors of Papers,
' are deemed. us the Learned Counsel says, on the other side, to
he the pro echo's of our liberties, they can write down chneac-
ter. affect public men, nod de-troy the private peace of iintivi-
d a-s; they can do all this, and they fancy they could do much
more. I will tell you Win( they I uuld do ; they imam r n far
theinselvestneful auxiliaries in protecting the Consiiistinne I
sins not for shackling the Libetty of the Frees, yet I think the
, Licentionmeto of the Presi,,, porticularly in the age in which sue
Ilive, und ever since my state of manhood, has been Mere:toil to it
nowt ola maim degree te degree which shiwk • well- %posed
1 and every well regulated mind. Thatlletrotiousnesks such im will
arm illy rndanger the Liberty of the Preis, and make melt colisider
whethertheydu Hot purchase it at too derma ratewbea theytiod that
it is from the Pros such liceotiousness springs. But this e kink-
man says, " Lam nut st Minister, I cannot conduct your Elects
mod armies, but I condo this; 1 cati asatelate a chosen maul of
Antigallican men ' to go forth I. murder Bonaparte. So
says Mr. Lovell t but no, Mr. Laval knows that Mr. Goldsmith
never started such a sentiment, although be, the Plaintiff, has
chosen to put hisconstructionsupini his statement by cutting of
is sentence to make the matter 'hurt. The Defeodaat's messing
'- was, that Ministers might try to do it by Beets and armies, bat
lays he, " I wit do it by peas and writers. I shall try and ac-
complish it by lay chaser hind of writers." Ile then goes on to
, reason on the subject, and to ask himself " how son Ito accom-
plith all this? not by drawing a trigger, nor by putting a match .
to a cannon,; but by milightening the public mind." These.
ewitletnen, are his sentiments; but I, for my own part, are not
of opiniod, that we ran write down tyranny by chosen bands of
writers, either consisting of Antigallicans or Anticonicans.—
None of theseprople, our any one else, can write down Bona-
parte. My opinion is, that tt requires al! the resources of the
country to wage war against suchen enemy; but it was evident-
ly my Client's wish to fill the Continent of Europe with
pamphlets, containing passages written for the porpose of rous-
ing the public mind into a state of activity and energy there as
Well as here, nd therefore he says, "as you are at war call me
in as an mos diary ; Ido not mean to assassinate ; I do sot mean
to use any thing sharper than the pen in order to write down the
tvraut.' And yet with all this 'knowledge of what must base
Dees the seutinsents of Mr. Goldsmith, hlr. Lovell. endeavours
to simper himself upon the subject of the Debates in Parlia-
ment being to be takes as a ustilicatioo of his writings. My
Learned Friend has intr aced the name of Lord Grey, a
name respected by every Aiglishroon. lie recalls to Our •
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recolketios that it was that Noble Lord who introduced
the subject Mut the Horse of• Peers, and he adds, that Mr. Lo-
vell, his client, -would have betrayed his trust with the public,
if he bid published ail debate in the House al'. Lords upon the
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Lord ELLEMBOftweam—lcyai mean to sbew that they are the _ asMiliDatios„oilima itifpwillgg his dethenidan
nets of Mr. Goldsmith as eminecied with Mr. Lovell, you must ; tasafootkles. dilfer trail OM opiates; It there be any thing
prove them lu the verbs way ; they are not incorporated. real us that noble character, Who is always atalondy engaged
Mr. Se satarr-t.—That is my case. la promoting the best intermit of his country 1 If there could be
Mr. GARRolr.—May it please your Lordships, Gentlemen of any thing beimacial emulation**, public from his conduct Da
the Jury, it now becomes my duty, sot by choice, but by force that avast" there most him awe a geseisl amid universal tbs.
(aflame imposed upon inc by the Milluitr, Mr. Lovell), to ad- teaation raised is thebeesst 44. every Ear Mists against alms- ,
dress some observatioss to you epos this extraordinary ease, as Alamo. lasi of elision that, if Mr. Levelltoold have writes
it has been well described by the Pkiintit's Contact, To see i thisitely banes than be rosily can, he would have served the
such a party a Plaletig in such a cause must be a matter not ' -came better. awl he wawa have wide murder aaastinatita,
f.olv of astonishment and stirpriaA, bolt evenof regret. To ; lane/Ilimiapular he England, merely by writing down those very
of him in this calla-, /must love a loose to that freedom only ayllables that were spokeo brtbe illustrious persormges in Par-
which is citusistent whtinny *Vert and r rd for your Lordship, t bewail who look a Jr the discussion. if he had watt%
forl do nut constrain-Myself in env duty dan.er hof re- down in unpolluted the sentiments of these great men,
seniment from* Gentleman who sodeeoll woind.the /s
ettings of without say comments of s olvn, be might have erected more
others with 'Hick. Oat of this rouse I shallsast nothing of hlr. than he otherwise bas douse; but Mr. Lovell, who compb.ins
Lovell, but as he is a candidate here to set himself well with the that he is wounded in the most sousible part, desires' that yuo,
public througb, your instrumentality ter-do Justice to his fair by your verdict this day, will vindicate his character and repo-
/ante. and to enter into his nice sensibilities, to say that he is tains man author, whsle he states Mr. Goldsmith to nettle pro-
wounded in his tenderest part by the publication of Mr. Gold- jector of awassieatton, for the purpose of carrying those seheau.4,
smith, it is tit that we should examine who the parties are. into execution, while at the same time be is a traitor and a spy,
was long ago disposed to adopt what was stated by the hairs and living upon the wages ofiniquity,and the infamy of assassi-
dresser, who has been examined before von, and who tells you , nation. Them are the outlines of the libels of which be, who
he was promoted to the *fart:swim, and then to the Btor. 1k complains to your Lordship and the Jury, has been guikv of
tells its, en speaking of the STATE:OIIN and the Asitigalliern writing and pabliehin; and it is upon these slanderous and.de- •
Monitor, ,the Papers now under comidevation, that be seldom • fasimorkpomoges that Mr. Goldsmith has ventured to retaliate.
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read any Of thew; Papers, as be considered them wrong. or in • Do not.linreier, GeotleMea, let those persons .. _ A pas-
his Own words, both bad poblicatioas. I agree with rim in this ' sed in Parliament as a stalking horse for their respective libels.
particular, for I must confess that I cannot approve of Mr. 1 In the very Papers that arc now laying Ir•fure bis Lerdshie, you
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Goldeisitb•s Paper any more than the other. But putting that i still find that. to giving an account of what wassaid by several .
out of- the question, we are here today to say what reparation . Noble Lords is the House of Peers, and by Mr. Yl hitbread af-
Mr. Lovell has a right to expect by. way of damage" for any terwards in the Rouse of Commons, Mr. Lovell, forsooth. is ex-
thingibm has been published by Mr. tintitsmilh. To bring a tretuely aagry that the Noble Secretary of State (alluding to
causolike this here Is disgesting. Who is Mr. Lovell I is he . Lord Liverpool) did not, in Parliament, join in that Debate.-- •
not a recorded and imprisoned libeller—a circtunstance which 1 When the matter was mentioned by Ldrd-Grey, the Marquis of
has been stated by bis awn Counsel as fit to he taken Into your I Wellesley expressed that there could be bat one sentimeat upon
eomideratiosa, in orier that yea may feel au affection and re- ! the suittect,and that no use coald view the doe.trice of assn ti- '
gaol for him—bat be that as it may, tt is certain that, at i. Imams but With hpfrer. ' .
time, lie is sulferingthe judgment of law for libels published Lord ELLEN acthouna.--I do ant knew that you can allude
be him against the Goveranseat of the country, aged sow we.find :to that matted here, oldest these observation' be regidArif •
*a Ite is a dailylibeller, not onlyof ibetbeernment,but of private i proved to be its the papers produced.
bdividuab. This is tbe manehocomeasnaltalksoftinlieesend- • Mr. GAttactiv...-1-will •thste esengli for my present object,'
r. Wilde's.' hohour, anit fair fame, and who calls for reparation
Sob blot be hiatneff is attacked; lied yet it appear', not ° i Mr. ficatimpit.—l will give isp to Mr. Gatruw thitkAirt .
!V! from what I recollect of my Leanicd Friend's speech.
the libel itself but by the statement of Loqnsel, that Otis a i Liorelfbisit mailed upon the ilifesullint.
a retaliation for a libel published by Sir. Lovell himself.-1 be comae*. ke I. to **pi that milk and waft, IT
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as old flume! to remember some cases of IMO, attbstogb sot ! rittleetten. iss such 'a care ilth !It does not stop thew 1 • :'•
this, as it is an audacity and Presuriglion-Aolt a Übe "'Ararat* Friend himself i ~ in 14. poldtew to you ti4t ‘`..i.,
glisianneil any thing I base ever witnessed, bat i bare wit- clock/ad chonte,t,tite at is ilk sorb and "ore kweettlatie •"t•
nedqd swateleing like this in whiEh. AL new Mteelen of donde' •; Aff awambatina" I ism iu of tlthi, fort marked dossu his. 4
was lisfripdated. In former times people.were content %Oh ! woritS;--7 .•'' • ' I A
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wgertoag their neighbour' or fellom-ilitlatend 1111,4egarO to their I ' liv:10a116:111V.-Alc. Lovell'
al. no doubt, treated 4 ith . 4
tivate life and Weir private cooduct. utt4 tberiod.itid44l 4+. mist ,se Ow lief wio,l4sl'l34tell In liSe dat444/41.14*."- '
•ed tease before a Jary to scelf•fiff Ifeibf-aliott; sie blur, Nonstop tsilfzew. ..- .74 -
's gentlemen, wen winS clialt.Mt •IlairatililiallrelberetY ft!, l't lb, GlasltliioW.4-1114 lotieitied Prirod,•ai I reeolliel, Inaba,* ,is
eit atperslons and slander relatille_lo ..theifita---. eilltik AC: 41i* "'Me. (tohlonlih MKKI a ibew order. tit 0 were tivettlie ' ...I
Vieof it in the Illihil aftgogNly rwqruk,. IV lie Roanoartie to Ith rinisiary, fur who should listatiaff,suelt oadesti. sit
*be bad been' t/111:441Pzefs 4094 It IdPIMIWIJ! 'Awn an cotis.enr.,. This is that matmer in 'welch' Mr. 11..te. tt her< •
-tbe pre ent cast ; Mau a penon =army oat i thothtlit pr.per to•charite Mr. I t..olowitts i then I say Fer.- i,. 4,
--.4 of society, and I will snake no complaint, but if distinct cisitei;e hrooghl by the Plaitrilf Mabel( villain the Ara