The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-11 00:00:00

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THE sTATEMIAN.,

tain Members of the Government, it had been re- he a sincerideciaration of his Intention ten give the
solved upon as a principle, that the discussion of
Catholics his support in future, or a hollow profes-
-1 this question should be left free from all interfe- lion to deceive them into a fatal security, and then,
tense on the part of the Government, and that every
wiles, he . n ,
as erected his purpose, to rivet their chains
Member of that Government should be left to the
the closer. We'confess, from what we already know'
1 • free and unbiassed suggestions of his own consci-
entious discretion upon that question. He did not of the many that we are inclined to adopt the last
pretend to disguise from himself the difficulties and view of the case.' It will not be long, however,
,•
, embarrassments which might individually arise from I till Lord r!,tsTt.gar.Aott be put to the-test, as the
arrangements of such a nature, but— ' Motion of 'Mr.CaNsisra, toren Address to the PRI NC }:
Mr. CALCRA FT rose to order. He said the'
i ItEGENT respecting the Penal Laws affecting the Ito-
; Noble Lord was making a speech instead of answer-
jog a simple questiou.—[Cries of Order, order! i man Catholics, comes on for discussion this day
Go on, Go on!] , 1
I ss'iinight. Meanwhile it will afford us, and we are cer-
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that he thought' (tin the great body of the people, real satisfaction, if
'
1 the termination of the discussion in the House of Corn-
. when indulgenoo•of thia , kind had bden afforded to
'so extensive a latitude, to others, and so recently, 1
mons tO-night, on Mr. WORTLEY'S second Motion,
Ire might be permitted to profit by it in some small 1
lead to the final dismissal from office of CASTLEREAGII
,degree.—[llear!]-,-He repeated, that difficulties !
l might.trise, bet still that he, as a Member of that I and his adherents. It is this only that can restore
Government, should, if 'the question came before : public confidence, and give a certain assurance to the
him, vote as then might seem best to' him, and sup- Catholic as well as to the Dissenter, that those
port such measure as seemed to his judgment best i shameful disqualifications which at present attach to
calculated to be useful to the Empire, and concilia. •
. tory 'to Ireland. • / them, will be removed. -,
. .
1 Mr:WALLACE brought up the Repart of the.;
.1 W e now lay before the Public the folio% la into:
Committee on the East India Petition. i resting Minute of Conference which took place dur-
Mr. CUE VEY did not mean then to object to ins pan Of the late negociations for forming a new
, the Report, bathe world merely remind:the. 110
,---m4 ,Administration,' which, in so far as it goes, will ert-
i that the East IDltia Company. had receives; ,eIW mil.
able oar Readers to form a Pretty accurate idea as to
lions loan from tbe public, without giving one &Ist
factory reason in *cermet of it. . I 1 the sincerity of the proposals which were made. to
I Mr. WALLACE hoped it would be in his power : Earl Gael. and Lord GRENVILLE:— •'
to bring fortard the India Budget in• the course of ' ST. JAMES'S-PLACE, Juxcf, 1812.
the present Session. He Was not satisfied :that lie i MINUTE OF A CONVERSATION SETWBPN LORD MOIRA.,
should be able to do so in the c.aurse of the time it 1 AND LORDS GREY AND GRENVILLE; AT WUICII LORD.,
imight take to's:any the Bill through the House; bat istsatxr. WAS PRESENT.
though he could not pledge himself on the subject, l Lord MOIRA stated to Lord G ant and Lord
he had every season to hope he might be able to I . GRENVILLE that he was authorised by the Plusses i
so in the course of the S,n
sion. •
, REGENT to consult with the formation of a
till the Haase
Mr. HUMS objected to the vote, • them on
new Government ; and satisfactory explanations
saw what was the actual state of the Company': af-
fairs. • : . i having taken place between them, respecting such
The Report was then agreed to. - 1. measures as appeired to be of Cie greatest urgency I
Mr. WALLACE then gave notice that he should, 'at the present moment, more especially with refer- I
on Friday next, move a vete to this extent in the .
eine to the situation of his M isEsTY's Roman Ca-
Committee of Supply. : tholic subjects, and the ditfereuces now unhappily
The Irish Loan Bill was read a third time and
passed. , subsisting with America, and that Lord Moins had
The Irish Customs Bill was reported, and ordered received this commission without any restriction or;
to be read a third time to-morrow. ' limitation whatever being laid by the PR's/et on
CIIEQUER I s 1
The CHANCELLOR of the EX
their considering any points which they judged use- l
moved for a Return of the number of Persons cow: I
fur for his service ; they expressed their satisfaction I
fined in Newgate for the last three years.—Ordered. l
The other Orders of the Day were disposed of. with the fairness of this proposal, and their readiness j
Adjourned. . , to enter into such discussions at must precede the de-
tails of any new arrangement. As a preliminary goes-
lion,which appeared to them of great importance, and
which they thought it necessary immediately to bring I
forward, to prevent the inconvenience and embar-
rassment
of the further delay which might be I
produced, if this negociation should break off in a 1
more advanced state, they asked, whether this full
liberty extended to the conshteration of new ap-
pointments• to those groat Offices of *Am Household
which have been usually included in the political ar-
rangements made in a change of Administration ?
intimating their opinion, that it would be necessary
to act on the same principle on the present occasion.
herd MoiltA answered, that the PRINCE had laid. no - - - --
,
restriction upon him in that respect, and bad never 1 resterilay letters were received Trt;m Leg LI ira, to the
pointed in the most distant manner, at the prates- rmid-dle of. April; by which we learn, that such was
thin of those Officers from removal. That it would, 1 the dSsolntion produced by the earthquake of the `36tH
however, be impossible for him (Lord MoraA)
to I of Slar-ch; that not a building remained Wit% in the
whtile4"l", except that belonging to the Philip.
concur in making the exercise of this power positive
pine Company. The misfortunes of the ,Spatfiards
and indispensible iu the formation of the Admiaistra- , r _ • _lf A • • •
-at .s.iaginra.wo not terminate with the earthquake.—
tion, because lie should deem it, on public grounds, .4All Owe Tho had property left had collected it to.
peculiarly objectionable. To this Lord Grunt :ilia: gethgra, andproceeded with it and their families to
Lord GRENVILLE replied, they also acted on public the atuttains; there to.reside in tents, till their ha.
0 _
bitationt nobld be rebuilt. The unprincipled part of
grounds alone, and with no other feeling whatever,
ti.e inttives taking- advantage of their situation, as.
than that which arose from the necessity of giving
to '
I sembled in numbers, and plundered there of all their
a new Government that character of efficiency and ; valuable effects; so that, in fact, property had
stability, and those marks of the constitmional sap- ! changed hands ; and those who before the earthqsake
port of the Crown, which are required to enable it. were the most opulent, were now reduced to poverty.
to act usefully for the public service; and that on '.,Preparations were; however, making to build a town
these grounds it appeared to them indispensible, that war Mozquita, in the room of Lagoira, which is to
twat a name commemorative of the adamity which has
the connection of the great offices of the Court with
been experienced..
the Administration should be clearly established in i
-Mr. /limn., the gentleman mentioned in Men-
its first arrangements. A decided difference of bpi- day's Sraressign, who saved the person from drown-
nion, as to this point, having been thus expressed ing at Mortlake', holds a synatiou of trust in the
on both sides, the conversation ended here with i house of
.r. • , 1 ninth rob h mile has rescued from similar situ•
mutual declarations of regret. •• Nothing was said , pe is w o
Mastro.' Manx and:.Cts.; and this is the
- ; attests <tif danger, .„, ..
on the subject or official iterintgements nor any
• , • 7 Per''"l* At the Levee -to nip the, Earl of MOIRA will
sons proposed, on either dyes to fill any particular
situations. . receivefrom his Royal Highness the PaINGE Raoul
,
' •s ors; of_ the, vacant Blue Ribbons. It is rumoured,
that his Lordship it to g.o. to Ireland, as cLord Lieu-
tenant.
.:
An ideettifettletit. having appeared in some of the
fitearspipeie, for the case of Jima/dal papers, Mr.
•Wittruneso, in . company with: some of his friends,
• -•
enacd upon the parties to inspect thetn. Mr. WRIT.
!JR' p) said,
(.. certainly meant to become a par.
chaser, in or er to 'hive thim to produce in aid of
f
iirgumentslor rescinding the Orders in Council, sad
'against :the system of Licenses.
It apprars; on reference to the dates, that the late
disturbances in Cheshire were, systemized and are
„ranged. -Outhe 14th of April, the plans of the in.
cend.Viles were first carrietinto execution, and their
outr)deeXtenfied avails greaßkttent of country. On
'llAlslti second intoad on civil order was mod'.
10 tilillWt ;with ith,siraila rt acts of violence; but after tiii,.
day vie-see no rintons.prceeediegs of a generefnature,
lain. spirit of,opeosition, owing to the decisive conduct
est the Magistrates and military, hosing declined, and
1 what subsequently took place, where partial transec•
Oth i'' April, the two delegates, Whitaker and his
compailionsswere busily employed in consolidating
tions'of a few individuals. On and pr. vices to the
rebellion by.the administration, of oaths of individual
711%7 and generatconcordance.
in cousequence If the public notice on the rad.
Mr.Vaxsortani, we understand the same pieties at
'last year; vii. the Stock Exchange; Me'srs. Bow-
. -Rtt.is, .and Co.; Rasp, levlso, and Co.; and JON%
'JACKSON and p,,; itORARTSp, CURTIS, and Co. are
preparing lists for the Loan to be uegoiiated early
next week.

THE SECRET INFLUENCE.

in answer to all the quibbling and special pleading tf th.
Court about the fairness of its proceeding. in the late antocia-
tions, we oppose, and shall continue to' oppose the declaration
of Lord lIARROWRY, " Thai (he Ministers lane re..,intri their
nilires in order to prevent the Opposition frond carroing their
measures." This declaration cannot he too often repeated, nor
too minutely can vas.ed. It not only contains the leadiog policy
of the Court in the late Negotiation with Opposition, but is the
key to all negociatlons into which the Court enters with mra
who seek to form an'Adminkration on principles independent
of its will. The Ministers, it is avowed, resume their offices to
prevent Opposition froin carrying ',eir inea.urc.i. What were
those measures? CatholicEm anci pat ion —Cencil iatinn of America
—Pacification of the Manufacturing Disticts- Lconomy is the
Public Expenditure—and the rigid application of every guinea
that could he spared to the effectual prosecution of the traria the
Peninsula. These grand measures were agreed upon with all
the different degoeiators employed 'oy the Court, and appeared
to be sanctioned by the high authority from which they derived
, their powers. It is well known, however, that dacha; the whole
- of their transactions, which by one contrivance or another were
I
creo;:dateatnot oicentuerpytoumroserewitlithanth..rruceum• weenkosu,,et,heeiit/fiseirtisr tre;rrovalehentetoihtrno:
I 014 IiCELL9R, the Duke of CI: MIIIIRLIND, or the Ites.Caaht-
-1 NEIZI,AIN I and it now appears that they-were avowedly cons-
; bining to riefeat thtoesremnsacaroa a,,rlcsbicrhhote:l7oeiritieoanotcotani.nlyd
acloocewp
only terms
which hat been actnally coticeded to them
I;. erste
nhituhtehtoh:pounr:
ai the basis on which their tieyernment Was to lie.formed.. No
one can have a'doabt of It th factswho will consider the nitore
i of the differetgensamunimbons made to Opposition, and the in-
i tertalrylaigt sdapsed between them. The vote di the Home of
Croupous was on the Iltt-of May. Thed* ogegotre pads to
1 theta Was by: Lord Ittalestics walk 513c1 ; and even then out by
i direct untharlty from the OUNCE REGEVI. When this oveiture
1, was acceded to, most unexpectedly by the Court as we stated vas.
1 terday, a full week elaplad before any further communication of
any kind whatsoever was -Made to them; and during all this tint
t':- inter, nurse between Cnillon- Ilonsc,the Citexess.r.on, and tie
i •
•• Cahinel,was continually going on. This week of deliberation pro-
diked at length, on the Ist of June, an authorized commnaica.
tien.to the headi of the Opposition, but a commuoicatima con.
tamping a prnposal which, as far as it was intelligible, was in-
admissible. Let it here be, carefully remembered, that when
the Marquis WELLESLEY, Oli the rejection of this proposal, ap.
plied to the naives Raorser for authority from his Royal High-
ness to explain it ac •arding to what was said to be its true
t hity was
beorred,si irecncdeouttlyoranthdispositively
refusal
there arise
Let
anothermewathingis bed,ilauryelsnlofae several days, for it was not until the fith if
Jane that another proposition, grounded oa those full and us-
fettered powers which were deficient in the drst, was made to
Lords Gault and fiItENVILIAL Whether, during this hat Mar-
yut, the Chancellor had personal access to Carlton House, we
art not accurately informed; but we know positively that the
Duke Of CoMBERLAS at had, and that on the 4th of June he at.
tended his Royal Brother to Windsor. Of this Royal Doke's
political °pink ns, and of his close connection with the Chao.
celior, from the epoch of the " Delicate Investigatioe Bahl
this biter, no man is ignorant. An attentive consideration of
, the above dates and circumstances, joined to Lord Halloo's'''s
honest but most injudicious declaration, will explain, at once, the
Imysteries of thit last month. Afteralltbe delays we have noticed,
and Alt the difficulties thrown in the way of a flair explanation with
Opposition, the last trump card is to be' played out, and Lunt
the
which he might agree upon with Lords Gate
most perfect peutrfireetettehredonopi
oirt;6l4ders toal .ftilar"t•pcno,enstta:tthatly
1 41:Zillt'itiaianylLti.,haein- thing
But who was to decide upon that proposal?
1 votinglNliA
with'ilL itn..-I- of
m , the
ce
i
I.aratitlißoadyrialselsilhnellte
cAlundmwoculto wiiiitren4nisthaeouvaultHt.aigrifnceetstbxesroctliiu
ton:
1:""*Lord BAAanad a "art iiiO hi. place in Pronent rY4'hat they
tlsoa~ht themselves bound bg /hair thug txt 'he Prtpect to rasresume
4144rollitfee, lo,order to trim those measonet attach Lords tilt?
.and fiaswvna.); werepledged to carry into effect. What thee
.is the obvious conclusion from Mete. p,reinises.? Simply this a
/
Mom the. invitation to Opposition.ww- intended to end an
n no.
• : thing, or they were to be admitted ihto the Cabinet without
, ; power of cairyiair their measures low affect.

Capital Household Furniture, and Effects s brilliant large
Chimney Glaser; a beautiful Grecian Pedestal littlelar.r triad
Pareoptia•zus Wive Cooler; a set of Patent Portable Dining
Tables pin elegant set .f Trafalgar Card and S •fa Oiled this*
handsaw. French W intim, 1/4. urtains, Iv oh ell' Coraces ;
Chains d Sofa in Suit; virgant fashion:tido Pl.de ; Tea and
Cafe liquipa,..,e,; a fir:Amiable Gig Ahl Chesnut Gel ling;
saute choice Wines, &c. &c. the geoid; e Property of captain
Atubnoe Wotan, Leg. going to Purist
10 NE SOLD BY AULTION,
Bilge's's. WILSON-and Cll. - -
On the Premises, No. 1.3. Duke-street, Alacchester-samie TO-
MORROW. June 12, and following Dayoi Twelve D'etnels.
A LL the truly valuable PROPERTY ; comprising
lofty &table . screwed four-post bedsteads. with chintz
hangings, made up in tin elegaut style ; teat and cottage ditto;'
prime seasonedkaose feather beds; large blankets stall Marseilles
qu Its; barge Turkey and Brussels Carpets; Isandsome Large
chimney glasses, pier ditto, and minors nal rich gill f awes.—
' The cabinet articles consist of a capital large seen-very, hook-
case, Relish. wardrobe; double and sinzle eomitiode chests of
drawers'; setts of dining, curds Painbroka. bait, sod too tattles s
ladies' work and dressing ditto ; gealletrani's shaving ewes, with
apparatus complete; eheval and inaliagoay hos dresaingglasses
maltozany pedestal and rellaret pith:hoards ; lutadscane brinier
• lams ; bed-room and d• g parlour chairs; rich tea table and
supper services ; some valuable prints and paintings" a fine till
gifts ; a select library tif books: a large library table; Altair
I of globes; and numerous other elf- COL
Cat:11100es to he had at the pl:Lce iti S.

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THE. STATESMAN.

LONDON;
THURSDAY, JUNE U 1812.

Mr. VANSITTART took his seat last night on the
Treasury Bench of tbe house of Commons, as
Chancellor of the Exchequer. This appointment;
and that of Earl LIVERPOOL to the situation of Pre-
mier, are all the arrangements in the,nesz Cepinet,
that are yet settled. The following, fist*, hate' eeer,.
of the individuals expected to compose the whole, is
in circulation : .
. -
The Earl of lavoteooc—First Lard of lite Treasury. _ _ i -
Mr. N. V mom ART-Chancellor of the Exchequer.
1 Last night we received Paris Papers to the 2d
Secretaries of State—Foreign, Lord exemERIDAGIT —Home, 1
i inst: BostArAwre was still at Dresden on the tad
Mr. B. BATIRIRST—War, tkr, Earl BATRURIT.
President of the Couocil Lord Stonov•Ka. i ult.
•
Lord High Chancellor—Lord Export. 'The followieg letter was received yesterday, con-
Admiralty—Lord lilxixtu.s. • bitting much more recent intelligence than that ob-
Board of Controul—Lord Becatwaasanntac. . tained by the last Anholt Mail :
Ordnance-Lord klutz RA $, r. . " 'Die bierte, Jewel-We bad letters yesterday from Bates
Board of Trade—Earl HARI:on-3v. I an, • and 1 an) glad to and that the Wanes convoy all got safe:,
Without Office—Lord CARDER, ', through the Belt, although the enemy's privateers. were very 1
trantitesoine.—tetter, from Riga of the lath duns°, state,
In another list, Le% fl 11
—r- -ATHLIRST is assigned to fee that the Russian ports were to be opened tows, but the Castoms•
Colonial DePartment, 'in the place of Lord LIVER- i and
iep 0
rotherisro
mAtu4'ol o
ori
rt i eish
riteeadhonuot r
ses necelenitsient,teithair
ituettracßeistirs.
root, ; Lord SIDMOUTtI to the Home Secretaryship ;., were nt Memel, and that the French had occupied .Pditm. VI
but Colberg and tae other sea ports were still kept by PRI 11.•
and Lord Haattowne to the Presidency of the Cotes- . sians. The French seem to occupy all die ports. of tbet.43•
cif. NVhatever may be in these statements,•k•ls clear happy country, and I am far from thinking that they have'
any good design in not possessing themselves of the sea partici
that no change of That system which has already imagining that their motives of forbearance, are with the viell6l
brought so much calamity on the nation, can be vtoertyaciimilitylvthoeneigtartymoifstgraratii ,
. re satawte. Oneatitnf whtdired anisilisfilfatypvelh
looked for whine the management of public affairs : sets from Pillau, Memel, &c. had mitered Rigel's-procure grain,
1 within the last sir weeks, and thiv, is the cause of the Basilan'
continue in the hands of such a faction. On a ques- Ciovernment prohibiting the exportation."
lion put to Lord CarreesteAue, last night, by Mr. Admiral MARTIN has left town for Portsmouth;
SPENCER STANHOPE, respecting the policy intended 1 from whence he will sail in the Acosta frigate to Use.
bon, as Commander in Chief.
to be pursued by Ministers towards the Catholics '
his Lordship said that it was not to be a principle in
'' • • There are upwards of 120. French Officers now on
' parole at Abergaveney, and about 30 more aro en
the new Cabinet to resist such discussion, or even pected. They behave remarkably well, and are treat.;
concession ; and that, as an Individual, he should ed with the greatest civility by the inhabitants. .
. hold himself at liberty to bring forward any measure I The island of Goree, of the African coast, imos!
contains '2,000 blacks, who have been rescued poet
himself, if, on enquiry, the teeoper of the Catholics
• slave-ships be our cruisers. A plan has been list*.
was found to be moderate. We ate at a loss in what ' devised for recruiting the
m all for. West India reghnitets frail'
light to Consider thin apparent departure fro . them ; and some officers are about to be seat out, to i
i
mer principle avowed by his. Lordship—whether it sarry it into effect. 1