The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-05-27 00:00:00

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Ttre CHANCEILOR the EXCHEQUER tahl, that if
tlk oloyh. Of the; Wink weeentavie public, he Crime of forgery
remold heroine more comiiiim 4T.be Commissioners w,soo be
II" or 'ix t son* of them, beiroped, would give their labour
without 4barv.
Mr. BENMETT wished to alma, whether the Bank had not
paid one poured notes which hdffilessved to be forged ?
Mr. MANN:SW:tetrad, that dire Vound notes were brought in
In large bundler, and •not limner/ImM y exashined. the unmet of
tho e who brooglist theta in litding kramrn: " Money might, in
those instarees, have been paidloeforged nertes,•bal It had beets
lecovered.—The
DR Bill wits or
ANdeeedK te'inibe committed.
URY-LrfIEATRE.
• . Mr. P. MOORE. Moved then setoutUreadillk of the Bill to en-
able the Proprietors of Drery-Ituth 'Theatre to raise a certain
'noon of money.
Mr. LAMB, alluding to a Ptititinti which be had prehented
tbe rash part of the evening tikalnst ' the Hill, withed that
piste tinwshould be given for considering the allegations coo.
Dined in it.
Mr. P. MOORE raid, that sallel'ent time !should he given
far that purpose, but he hoped that no opposition 'would be
offered to ihtoreconi reading. •
The Hill seas then read asecond lime, and ordered to be cons-
Mimed to-morrow.
MR. BUTT.
Sir G. HEATIICOTE presented a Petition from Richard
ti.nihrr.•e Bute, now a Prisoner to the King's Bench Prison.
• presisie that the /1011,e would greet him a HBheil* Corpus, io
or.irr that I.e mi4ht be enabled to proceed with nil indictment
fur perjury nessinit a Gentleman of the name of Parrett. who
bud given evidence on the trial of the Pei itioner, for publishing
is laid aphis, Lord Ellenhorough. The Hon. Barrinet observed,
th 1 he knew nothing of the merits of the riiiir•—hilt, as the Pe-
tition was respectfully worded, he felt that it war his duty to
Orient it to the Hour.
Mr. BOURNE was of opinion that the Petition couid not
• be received, as on the House to exeicise a power
lb Mill in teat,* belonged to a Court of Justice.
Mr. LYTTELTON thought the•Hoisso ought not to confine
'Miff to die mere power of amending the Habeas Corpus
,Act —[Hear. beer 9—lf they could do that; they Alight, he
Vince veil, comply with the prayer of the eptilloa.
The Petition wits then brought up and rend.
On the owtiori. That this .Petition dW lie on the tattle."
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCIIIQUER observed. that
the Hou-e of Contemns was not the proper place to seek for re-
•lior of thi+ kind. .1 f Klitloner wished. to indict.Ble. Pnrratt
for perjury. he aright.disoKs with the full conviction that every
farad y would be rtforded him in a Court of Justsce, for bring-
ing hi. case to u speedy issue. He should, therefore, oppose
the motion. .
Mr. S. BOURN E put it to the Hon. Baronet, whether he
cou:d. ens sis.ent with the forms of Parliament. press such a
Petition eitihr Ilimse? It was cline that the Petitioner ought
to Aipis Wit lib thrill, but to a Court of Justice.
Sir G. II LATH COT E said; lie did not stand up as the advo-
cate of the Petitioner, of whose case he knew nothing, save
what gas remained in the Petition. It would be for Ilse House
loam! w to it as they thought proper.
Mr. LUSH IN aroN cad, the prayer of the Petition, which
called Oil the !dense. in express terms, for a writ of Habeas
Corpus was inadmissible.
Mr. LY I"I'ELTON could not see any impropriety is sutler-
it the Petition to lie on the table.
Sr, M. W. Mimeo and Mr. M. A. T•YLow opposed the
mai:in. They were both acquainted wilt the GeistlrMall 11C-
cu-ed by the Pesitioner, nod they believed a more virtuous and
honourable man did not exist.
The motion was throne:volved without a division.
FINANCE.

Mr. J. SMITH askedll4thancellor of the Ex-
chequer whether it was his intention to raise any
greater sum than that which had been contemplated,
by funding ?—He also wished to know, in what man-
ner the loans from the Bank to the Public were to be
paid of? •
. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was
surpriced that the Honourable Member should have
. paid any attention to the rumour that in additional
sum would be funded this year. So much had bees
already funded, that sit was doubtful whether in the
meet year it would be necessary to fund any sum.
We were unable to collect the eXplaisaliou of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, and some observations
of Mr. Tierney respecting the Bank !Arens.
ADDRESS TO THE CROWN.

Sir J. MACINTOSH rose to give notice an a
subject in which the House was concerned, in order
to maintain the respect which was due to itself. On
the 31 of February last, an Address had been pre-
sented to the Prince Regent, for an Account of the
• sums received as Proits of Admiralty ;—on the 13th
of the same month the Prince Regent returned an
answer to state, that he had ordered that these Ac-
counts should be laid before the House. After four
months those Accounts had not been presented. Un-
less, therefore, they were immediately presented, he
*horrid move on Monday ow -Address to his R.o)ol
• Jiligimess to inform him of the neglect of his Officers.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had
known the great extent of correspondence necessary
to procure these Returns, he would trot be surprised
at the delay. He hoped, however, that before Mon-
day they would be presented.
Returns respecting the Property Tea Papers were
presented, and ordered to be printed.
LAND TAX ASq.:is‘tENT.
Mr. BROUGHAM stated, that there had been
printed in the public rapers, a circular letter from a
Surveyor to Assessors of the Lend Tax, to direct
them not to proceed further in the Assessment of the
Land Tax until they received further directions.—
Thia letter had been printed in the public Papers, and
be had every reason to believe it to he genuine. The
House would see that as the law now stood, by which
the hand Tat Assessment was the only evidence of a
freeholder's right to vote (the Bill to amend the law
in this respect having been rejected), if such a trick
as this was to be suffered, the Land Tax OtTicers,
in contempt of the Privileges of the House, and the
right of electors in the kingdom, might exclude
whatever persons they pleased from giving the votes
to which they were entitled. He wished to know,
whether any authority had been given for this circu-
lar ?—Ellear
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.
said, he should not object to the motion for the pro.
duct ion of the fetter.

Mr. BROUGHAM wished the House to observe
bow they were situated. If he mowed for the return
of a letter in that distant part of the country, before
the return was made, the Parliament would have been
probably dissolved. He wished, therefore, to know
whether any authority had been given for such a
circular ?

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The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER said,
he was not aware of any. An order might be made
by any three Lords of the lreasury, but he had not
concurred in any order of this description.
Mr. LUSIIINGTON said, be believed no such
order had been made.
Mr. Vt; YNN said, that if there wait any riiiirn to
believe that such a letter' bd, been nut, i( would b 0
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forthwith to move fo► a' Return

subject of, eh' Land Tax.
. 141OUG HAM 'Bei4l, that i
Lion. and Learne4 Gentletner
p►ivileges of Pirliantent wei
did move that all Orders on
Ts: Assisinieot by the Lords
before. the Hesse.
Alter a few words from Mr. P. MOO'
tr. and the Colnisimioners of Taxes
motion *as carried.

Mr. BROUGHAM said, that h
moving foi-the atteisditnce of deindi
the letter had bee* signed, for even
had gives authority, the inferioi -oft
be,.guiltreif a breech of privilege. "i
ever, delay till 30-morrow sill -he hid concerted with
Gentlemen better acquainted with the proceedings of
the House in. farmer cases. ,T)be • House was placid,
inn difficult,situatioq, but though the Crowe bad the
undoubted right of dissolviog Parliament, Pattie-
meat 'mist be possession of some remedy against a
violation of the rights of Electors.
Mr, BRAGGE BATHURST adverted to the notice be bad
given last night respecting ilts prndnetiou in a Court of Low of
the notes of newt-hand writer, taken before a Committee of
*House of COMMulid. Evidence of this description was net
Sis'be given elsewhere, without the permission of the House.—
lee concluded by moving a Resolution, that all Witnesses were
entitled to the protection of the H .the, US 10 what they
!gm to tho 'louse in evidence: and a seind Resolption.
so Clerk, nr Sli-rt-hand Writer, should kiye evidence chew here
of what was stated to the House, • ithout the special leave of
the House.
Mr. C. WYNN gave the Right Hon. Gentleman treat cre-
dit for this attention to its Pi ivtleges. The inquisitorial power
of the House Must fall in the ground, if it mild not pr .tent the
witnesses that came before us own Committees. It was slot
possible to notice the matter in a milder way aim Ow Right
Hon. Gentleman had done in the Revolutions be had proposed.'
The Resolutions were paused.
THE NORTHERN CIRCUIT.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR brought up the Report of
the Notthern Circuit Committee. 7he Hon. Mem.
bee' said, the Committee had now closed their labours
oa this important subject, and the result of those la-
.bouts was, that be had been instructed by the Com-
mittee to propose to the li.wse an Address to his
Royal Highness the Prince Regent, praying his
Royal•llighness that he wns,4l he graciously pleased
to appoint the Assizes on the Norther Circuit should
beheld twice in the year. In support of this motion,
the lion. Member entered at considerable length into
a recapitulation of his former arguments on this sob.
eject. Ile urged the weight of buyiisess which existed
on the Northern Circuit, much gteater'in proportion
.than that of any of the other Circuits where the As.
sizes were notwithstanding held twice a year. The
Hon. Member also conteutled, that by the Assizes
being held only once in the year in the Northern
Counties, individuals were denied justice, and per-
sons were kept in confinement, charged with offences,
without trial, for ten or twelve months, and ulti.
mutely, when tried, were found not guilty, and Ides.
charged, but ruined by their long confinement. Ile
had the opinion of the Judges end must eminent I
Counsel, who had been in the habit of going this
Circuit for a number of years, that, in the presentl
state of things, they could not atlmittster justice in I
these Counties; and he had also the voice of the
Counties themselves, asking for the change he now
proposed. The Hon. Member concluded by moving
the Address to his Koval Highness.
Lord CASTLEREAGH did not oppose the prin-
ciple of the Hon. Gentlemeo's m .tion, but the House
eoold not fail to see that the motion did go far, very
far beyond the Northern Counties. The Hon. Genile.,l
mass's plan, if adopted, wool.' go to alter considerably
the coustitation and formation of all the Courts of
Justice in Westminster-hall ; since the plan went to
appoint new Judge 4, and in short, entirely to new
model all the Courts of Westminster-hall. With re-
spect to the evil as it existed its the North, he did not
attempt to under rate it. He felt the evil of perpons
lying so long in confinement untried ; but this' evil
was not of long 518.41611 ; as population had' Vs::
creased, the number of prisoners had increased,and
this had caused the evil. With respect to the Civil
business, there was a difference of opinion as to
whether delay *as productive of most good or evil ;
.four or five Learned Jeers, who were examined
before the Committee, certainly were of opinion that
LIG have the Assizes twice a.) ear would have the ef.'
feet of increacing litigation. With this differenth nf.
opinion further consideration was necessary. At+
Address to the Prince Regent would, to a certain es.
tent, pledge the Crown, which was ohjectinnible.—.
He would therefore sisga,.st the propriety of ttie Hon:
Gentleman now withdrawing his motion; he (the
Noble Lord) assuring the lion. Gentleman that dur-
ing the recess Government would give the subject
its fullest consideration.
Mr. BROUGHAM concurred in the Noble Lord's
recommendation to his Ron. Friend to withdraw his
motion ; without differing from the principles laid
down by his Hon. Friend, he still thought it impro-
per to come to any decision upon the case at present.
If the motion applied only to the four northern cows.
ties, it was now too late in the Session to adopt any
measure of legislation upon the subject, and to vote
the Address would be tantamount to a measure of
legislation. Now as the proposed change referred to
judicial proceedings, he apprehended it would he
much more regular to have it settled by the consent
of the three branches of the Legislature, thin us
emanate solely from that House. In such a case, in.'
deed, it was peculiarly proper. that the other House of
Parliament shoold be consulted, forming, as it did,
our Supreme Court of Judicature. But it was evi-
dently necessary to afford time for consideration be.
fore the House took any step, in order that the'
Judges, who were most competent to judge silks).
such case, should consult together as to the nadir!.
of the change which it might be expedient tondeliti
Mr. TAYLOR, in reply,. observed, that he did
not feel disposed to press his motion, if his Majestes
Government would state what-specific measure try:
intended to propose next Session. The Iloose•wo Id.
recollect that before Parliament next met," knotiter
Circuit would have taken plEce, and the Nortis6ro
Counties would be exposed to the same denial'of
tics that wss io long experienced. For his'part be
would never consent to any proposition that denied
the benefit of the Court of Nisi Pries, the same as
was enjoyed by the other coontiss in England.'
Lord CASTLEREAGH, in ezplauetitan,•said,
that his Majesty's Government would pay every at-
tention to the subject, bet he could pot pledge himielf
to soy particolir proposition.

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LOTTERIES.

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a w worth from Si 'r Cil oaLIIS apAIRD44III7
Ank:P ief
floatityru, who illodPd to the poarlibr hp
itriqottees 12 mimth. ItiMteltiil .4
icfi before Isis!, and Mr. (loves', the atOtim

•NCELI.OItIeI IbirrKbHlPClLlbtatoved
?ading of the Latter/ 4IiUT A • • 1
',l(l'riit.TON said, that uldeterred by the refute

iihout renew in .hotlyglit to a Bill "Alt wen
g
ar this great nati ne. The Bill had been t
I that, day, and "hoaigh..some .isnwparmissit was made
isions, his mm il on on its beteg immoral, and impolitic I
Inciple, remained amasses& It was a most shabby an
.onotsurable plan for cheating the people opt of their Money
heiherehe considered the suliject,•the more irreenatilabk he
felt it to account for the deb-resisted*, of the Right tionumbits
the Chancellor of the Exelsequer, to persevere iu a sysztfo-'
lific in crime, at the very moment that liepeofessed hi diet
sincere friend to the diriemilm&jaa_of knovrledge—the diffusiow
of the Scriptures—the building of Churches—and ,the erasion
bf 'tieing Banks—[Hear, hear 11-LsH* ' (Mr. 1441ellori) armlet
persevere to oppose such an immoral soiree of revenue ea long I
as he had a seat in Parliament. [Hear, he:lel] He therefore felt
it hit duty to move as an naleaffilteels that tad lila be Mad a
third time that day three months.
Mr. PA RN ECL said, that soothing had given Mar so'nhich ~
pain. during the abort time he bad ,sat in that House. as ttsaee
how much great questions of morality and policy bad been sa;
criliced to profit.—[Hear !)—Future ages, recording faithfully
the events of the present day, would place such actions in a
proper light. When the Right Hon. Gent., yielding to the fate
that awaits us all, should sink into the silent tomb, thislpitaph,
if not engraven oft bis monument, would faint a most appro-
priate inscription tor it : •
6. Here lies
The Right Honottrahle Nicholas Yaittlttati,
Once Chancellor of the Exchilquel; , ..
The Patron of Bible Societies ;
The Builder of Churches s •
A Friend to the Educatiott,of the Poor,
An Encourager of, Savings' Banks,
And a supporter of Lotteries !!!"
[Loud and continued laughter.]
Mr. MORLAND expressed a strong dl.approbation of the
measure: If his Majesty's Ministers said that we should :be
slow in tainpering with the revenue of the country, his answer
wits, that Ministers should not tamper with the morals et the
People.—Near. hear I .
Mr. LOCKHART wished to know on what grounds that
House could enact capital punishments, when they were pasting
laws which invited people to perpetrate crimes ?—plear, hear 1]
—He could sot consent to ibis measure on any grounds of re-
venue a hatever. Considering the abominable egrets which this
esstem was calculated to produce, he was satisfied that there
was no impost that could lie imposed which the People of Eng-
land would not prefer to it.
Mr. Alderman WOOD was of opinion, that no fault meld
be found a ith the keepers of regular offices. Many frauds and
impositions, however, were practised. and great and extensive
evils arose from the system °Classmates. )forge ofiices belong-
ing to the latter description of prisons .had beep entered, and
the honks fetich askay, by whleliiit appeared. on inspection. ,
that Clerks in Reeking-houses. ,Plcirks ip the Onions. pod it'
other Public Departments. hatlentered their names as ipsurrrs,l
from 11. to 101. la exposing sothawits to the House, la. would
not hesitate to mention 'tames. One of the ufficetsto •which,lie'
alluded was discovered in Newgate-street, and onnilwr in'
Covent-garden, where he entered sad found all that lie had
staled. In one of those places, a Gentleman who held a high
office in the Long room in the Costom-house waS the person who
took the insurances. The Hon. Member concluded with sa ing,
r that hr hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman a auld at last find that
•esich an immoral system as Ibis would not be tolerated by the
People.
' Mr. LYTTF.LTON said he should not allow the panegyric of,
the Worthy Alderman to pass without bit also stating hist/pinion
of the Licensed Lottery Office-keepers. Next to the Right
Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor of the Excheqa. r, he.
considered them the chief artificers of crimes, but with the dif-
Iference th a they had the pretext of a miserable profit. In moral
turpiaide, he classed them in the degree nest to Mineola] and
Informers --(Hear, bear 1)—They were a league of fraudulent
and criminal men. On a calculation that with some industry he
bid made. his conclusion was, that the odds against the miserable
adventurer were, on the small prizes as to io 1, on the higliesti
prise. as 2.00 Q sti 1.
Mr. Alderman WOOD, in explanation, said, that he had only
spoken in praise of Licensed Lottery Office-keepers. because
he did not believe they were engaged in any illegal insurances.
He by no we los meant to support the system of Lotteries.—
• [ I tear, hear!]
The ques;ioo.,was then loudly called for, and strangers were
ordered to withdraw.
Oa a di vitionthe numbers were—
' • For the. third readipg 4Q 1 Against it 14 1 Majority 26.
- flt I Sii DISSENTING CLERGYMEN.
Mr: PA.It N EEL, after de-cribing the situation it Dissenting
Clergymen in Ireland. and particularly the Catholic Clergy,
Ind detailing she inconvenience to which they were subject,
,for want of a buitahlr provision for their rev deuce, obtained
leave to bring in at Bill to enable Dissenters its Ireland to pro-
aide residences ler their respective Ministers by voluntary sob-
, script init. It an' uftera ants tonsight up, and read a first time.
V Mr. COURT S.N AY 'Obtained brave 01 bring int a Bill for the
1 establishment of Parochial Benefit Societies ; nod :thou Bill fur
1 she further rocutoisgement and piiitection of Friendly Societies.
—Leave given. • - ..Mr. LI TrELTON gave lattice. that on the Report to-mor.;
row, of the Appropriation Bill, he should submit a maing for
leaving out the affidavit it hie) balf-pay Officers were required
to take on tbe,rrreipt of their pay.
The' NStii'initi'Dizio Commissioners Bill was read a third time,
and passed.--Adjourned " ..

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.INTE LIP F; NCR. .

COURT OP CHANCERY, MAY 26.

• -The LORD CHANCELLOII, a soon as he wig seated
.on the Bench, called the attention of the Court to
Ithe ease of Lord Ossoleton c.'Beville, observing
that, as he understood the matter, the lease of Lord
Ossolston was an urider.lease' and consequently, in
the estimation of thst Court, defective. He should,
however, direct a reference to-4hr 'Master, to en-
quire whether the deed contained the usual cove-
nants.—Case referred for that purpose to the Master.
ADMIRALTY COURT, DOCTORS' COMMONS,
M T 46.
LA VILLE DE VADEOTTE.
The question respecting head-money in this case,
being a disputed claim between the fleet under Admi.
ral Lewd Gambier, and the ships under the command
of Lord Cochrane, at the destruction of the French
squadron off Basques Roads, came on this day be-
fore Sir WILLIAM SCOTT, assisted by two Trinity
Masters. Lord Cochrane was present in Court, as
like*ise was two of his brothers, who were in-
cluded in the recommendation of Lord Gambier
in his dispatches to the Lords of the AdMi.
rally, respecting their gallant conduct on this
meritorious enterprise. The greater part of this
Jay was consumed in hearing the contradictory stri-
dence adduced between the statement of Lord Gsm-
bier, ands that of Lord Cochrane, respecting the.rela.l
live diluent& of the fleet. The former assertingt that 1
the fleet ender Lord Gambier. were distant three
'miles and a half when the action was commented by
-Lord 'Cecitratter .In • the Itnperieuz,' accompanied by
titufire ships seder his command ; the latter referring
to the log-books otihe several ships of the fleet, as-
serts, they were not nearer than nine miles from the
, .
stens of action.. These contradictory statements also
tole the linee'r4 cn.operation, and to various other
eircomstauceir. The question stands over to be argued.
Ketra's TuLatitc.-An opposition took place on
'Saturday etgainet•-the Ballet of Tamerlane and Ba-
jazet. It appears# that. though aided by rlrunken
bucks, it has a more serious origin, and that several
of -the Higher Subscribers have' called a meting in
outfit: t 4 take ,site state of the Theatre con-
sideration.

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CHAN eII:UM otibe ElCHNtiltft Natl. the Caw., Ilk the a
okgionerssbooM lot 40oeililt iiipp*iitted.' and 111 peldihle pup. Mr.
bormabo Le Ott.steeo to tbolooppoihtneet. •- • , .111ilh 'll
..Sir M.." • alryifisitar4.lo.l4see, the aviaries .orat nue. f -
bet of theCatismiss otters ?ue renicirked the peculiar situation to the ti
Is sibiea hair tette pieta; at to the evidence in noes of for he sh6dl
l. Thee
Hank
oblisedln take theernetestedwPtaiiin Land q,
the Clerks of the Hank that any given mite was a forter‘, as I
iontreliVe, with at being made.acquainted with the Marks by be laid I
w.hici. they distinguished them. After
Tn. CHANCELLOR of sloe EXCHEQUER iid. that if
-,- -.lark_ fit the.; think weveitaele uuhtic.-the Crime of ?orrery "and el

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is so pritse orthy .was,mit
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he had thoighr of is,s,P„rl.7,:cll,
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officer would also 1,1,:a06:
'He shoild, hew• lific in cri