The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-08-19 00:00:00

THE HOUSE OF LORDS.

ItATURDAY. Ara. M.
CREDINGS.AO A INIT THE QUEEN.

The Loan CUANCILLLOR entered the Mouse at ten
•'clock, and prayers were immediately read by the
Bishop of Landalf. The Judges soon after entered
the House and took their seats. A report reached the
House that her Majesty would not be able to attend
the proceedings during the day, in consequence of the
fatigue of yesterday. The following Peers were called
and excused :—Lord Howard of Walden, and Lord
Keith. The other defaulters were Viscount Palsiontk,
and the Duke of Newcastle.

MOTION TO DIsPENSZ WITH THE BILL.

Lord Kinn rose and said, Counsel for the Queen,
en the Bill of Pains and Penalties, having been heard,
he thought it necessary to interpose, to prevent the
Bill being entertained. It was agreed spots, that
no necessity existed for such a Bill; and that, oil
the contrary. great danger would arise from the
adoption of it under any circumstances but those
of dils(fluost urgent necessity.—(Hear, hear
It *So a most extraordinary way to viodkate the
bowie of the nation, by giving permission to
the quoit to continue in the course of profligacy
attributed to her, upon condition that she should
remain abroad, and preparing her for the most de-
grading punishment if she violated the conditions of-
fered. The complaint that the whole feeling of the
country was wounded by the conduct of the Queen,
was absurd. It was rather a wound to the dignity
of that House when the subject was brought under
their consideration. Burke once Paid, Kings were fond

of low company.—(A laugh.)—Had her Majesty been
pirmitted to move in the rank to which she was en-
titled, the charges might never have been known.
The proceedings before the House were to be and.
bitted in a great measure to the misfortune of keeping
company below herself. It was extraordinary to hear
Counsel speak of the necessity of the prosecution and
publk morals, with a view to produce an effect on
the minds of their Lordships. The honour of the
House always depended on a just administration of
justice, and looking to the situation in which they
were placed, they could only attend to 'tamests
which had real morality and justice for the basis.
As they were then situated, they might be reduced to
the mortifying condition of having their interposition,
rendered ineffectual by the proceedings in the other
House. The Members of the Commons might attend
to the recommendation of their conotitnents, and

I threw oat the BUL Was it to be supposed
tiny would deprive the Queen of her direly
open evidence they could not receive on oath
They would attend to the existing law, and
adopt a more legitimate course of proceeding.
The Noble Lord concluded by moving a resolutions
declaring that it was not necessary for the radio
safety that the Bill should pass into a law.
The Karl of Ltvgarout, rose to ewes the Mali,
and support the Bill as a judicial pessimist.. Oar
sidering it such, he bad no hesitati6o is issimist OS
House mast proceed in the course they Sid adeted.
He was ready to maintain that a Bill of Pains and
Penalties, and Bills of Attainder were, in eases of
emergency, absolutely necessary. The existesee ,of
such measures was to be traced to an early period of
the Constitution. In the present case, the proceeding
adopted was peculiarly applicable. The Judges were
of opinion the Queen could not be tried for high
treason, and there 'was then but one other course to
be adopted, namely, by Bill of Pains and Penalties.
Proceedings by Impeachment would be subject to
greet iseoevenience, and it was not quite clear
it could be supported at all. It was certainly
a great defect in Common Law that adultery was
only punishable by civil process, but that was the
law. If their Lordships proceeded by impeachment,
it would be over-ruled perhaps by the Judges, on•
poistref law arising out of the peculiar circumstances
alike ease. The act of adultery was oemenitted by
the Queen, before she was Queen, and perhaps the art
if the Princess of Wales could not be punished in the
Gwen Consort ; and the Noble Earl believed that the
rights of her Majesty, as Queen, would stead
against every thing but an Act of Parliament.
The House of Commons waited for the proceedings or
41refellitodellips to begin the same mime. sad unlit
a the circumstances it was his opinion they were
bind to go on, or drop the question altogether.—
(Hoar, bear, hear might now be expesliest to drop
it, bat the House having adopted it, they could sot
retrace their steps. The Noble Earl (Grey) himself
bad Said, if his Majesty's Ministers amid establish the
charges against the Queen, it was their duty to pro-
ceed.
Bari Our admitted that he said so, but listened
she assertion by saying, the proceeding might oily to
be adopted in cases of extraordinary necessity. Was
thiS a case of strong necessity ?
The Earl ofLeveeeont, in coationatioa, raid it had
bees asked whether there existed aecesehy fat the
proisseutioo against the Queen ? He could &sewer--
the Queen obliged His Majesty's Goverusseut to
edept the course of preeemilag. They were forced,
eset•Lshe insisted ups her reek sod privilege
smoky, Is lib am that her conduct should
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