The Statesman.
London, England, 1814-11-12 00:00:00

Ming was rn strict conformity to the cases provided.
They were first called out in the sewed years' war,
when invasion was actually dreaded.. Their next
summons was in the course of the American war, and
this still strengthened his principle. The war began
la 1774, but while it continued only with America,
-the militia were net embodied. Here was a state of
war ; but as there was no fear of invasion, the Act.
Vas not put in force. But towards the close of Amp
',liar,
When France declared, and Spill/ivies. the pilaf
sf hostilities, invasion was justly to be expected,
and therefore, and then only, were the militia em.
• bodied. The dread of ;evasion wee immediate, the
'French and Spanish fleets were soon directed to the
Channel, and the country was, of course, put la
array. The third calling out was in 1781, when
Siert was the case of a dreaded inperection ; and,
perhaps, no man now living knew better than hint.
self (Lord Grenville) the extent and depth of thaki
danger. The last period was at the beginning of the.
war which bad now closed in Europe, and when, se
he firmly believed, the determination to invade. the
realm was fully formed. Yet even in the case of that
Insurrection, which was probably the most pressing.
and formidable of all those periods, the House judged'
ft proper to examine the grounds of. embodying this'
and Committees had sat open it for a contd.'
derahle period. The evil did not end in the simpti
Illegality ; it impressed a most serious,..ittjustiee4,l*.
the country. The remedy of moistly mentioned
the Nobleiliecreary was comparatively uothing.-4
Th. eatiorg# parse was always the resort, and this
easy resort.- bat it was the personal privation, the
necessity of the individual in one county being 'Vb.'
,feel to the ballot, and forced into military service,
and made liable to martial law,: erblle in ethers *
was free.

Lord SlDlloooTH.ebeitly. explained. The No.,
Me Lord's (Grentille) bets would serve him nothing,
unless he could show that the militia were disem-
bodied the moment the first cry of invasion or inane.
melon was ever. If they were kept op after that
necessity, they were kept op, as.appeared to him, on
the principle for which be contended, and• against
that which the Noble Lord persisted in quoting as the
law of the lend. But in the seven:years' war there.
was no dread of invasion, and yet the militia were
called out. As to-Committees at the period of the
threatened insurrection, the militia were raised at the
end of 1792, and the Committees were not called for
till 1794, thus allowing a yiar and a half for the
mfitttia-tego en without enquiry. The militiamen's
oath favoured the principle. 'the ballotted then was
to be discharged at the end of five years ; the sub-
stitute to be reedy for service at any time during the
war while his regiment was 'embodied. His Lord-
ship pointedly disclaimed the construction that the
King was empowered to put the subject under martial
law by his prerogative in any instance but that of
actual isivasimi.
Lord DONOUCHMORE was surprised to find
that the measure of retaining some of the .militia re-
giments embodier!, while some were dismissed, was'
iateaded to be permanent, as he conceived, from the
intended introduction of a Bill. He thought there
might be reasons of patronage connected with this"
choice which 'should make the -House lisek.earefotly
to it. He did not kunw how far in England the up.
pante-vents to those regiments were considered of
Importance ; but in Ireland he knew that they were
generally thought one of the best things that could
be given away. Ills Lordship then adverted to the
state of the Roman Catholics, and enquired whether•
there was any idea of amelioration on the sated,
since the restoration of the Pope. lie then touched-
on the Bills introduced for Ireland at the close of the
Session,and contended, that of a set of bad Bills Govl
verntsent had chosen the worst.
Lord 14V ERPOOL wished to correct some mis:H
conceptions of the Noble Lord (Denoughasore). In
the first place, there was no notion of turning the
present state of the militia disembodying into a per.
manent measure. 'fbe Bill was merely to relieve thts;'
townships of the private and partial pressures of the
militia, such as providing for the families, and other
ieconveniences of that astute. On the subject of the
Catholics, he * nail*said, that the former circles.,
stances of the Pope made the only or the greatest
hairier to the Catholic claiths; and as to Ireland, tilt,
operation of the Bills, end particularly of that to
Which allusion was made by the mime of Mr. PeeWs
Act, had been Core for the purpose of prevention
than panishment. It had been judged,-and as it ups'
peered rightly judged, that the very passing -of
those Acts by the Legislature would hare the
effect of intimidating the offenders contemplated by
them. • ,
The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM professed Mei.
self dissatisfied with Lewd Sidmoutit's esplanade& •
• Lord GRAN VILLE said, that the true greenlet
keeping np the militia at present was our keePlisgo
..
force on the Continent. . 4,
The question was then put, but in so In, is Jews
that we could not ascertain how it all decided.

The Marquis or LAINNIVVVNE gave notice of a
motion for Monday, for Copies of the engagements
entered into with, foreign Powers, for the maintenance
of a British forte on the Continent.
Lord LI V,EHPOOL mentioned, that donbtless
such engagements had taken place, but that they had
not beets laid on the table, because the ratifications
of all the parties had sot been yet obtained. The
communications, however, might be laid on the table
without a motion, simply by a command. • .
Lord LANSDOWNE preferred a motion, and
Copies of the Engagements themselves.
The Lords were ordered to be summoned for

gave notice of
a maiden fat; Monday, for the Minutes of the Court
on Capt. Barclay and his Officers, for the action on
Lake Erie; not, as he said, with any idea of casting
an imputation en the conduct of those gallant men,
hut to show the Inadequacy of our preparation for
We war on the Lakes.—Adjourned.

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