The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-05-25 00:00:00

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Sir J. GRAHAM presented a Petition from the -
of Saint Mary-le-bone. in favour of the Poor Laws
Amendment Bill.
Mr. scAILLETT expressed his satisfaction that this
populous and respectable parish had approved of the
Bill. It was his intention to modify the Bill in a future
stage, so as to prevent any inconvenience being occa-
sioned to local districts.
Mr. CI'ItTEIS declared his appmhation of the Bill.
Mr. MANSFIELD wished not to lose this opportu-
nity of del:lat.:SW his strong and decided objection to the
principle of the Bill, for with all deference to the lion.
and Learned Dentletnan who moved it, he must main-
tain that its provisions were most objectionable, and
that at this perio I of general depression of agriculture
and of manufactures, of distress amongst the poor, and
scarcity of demand for their labour, it was neither poli-
tic nor humane to introduce such a Bill. He did not
mean to say that at some future period of prosperity
some new regulations might not be desirable; bnt this
certainly was not the time, and especially for such pro-
visions as the Bill naentioned. lie, therefore, should feel
•
it his duty to oppose it.
After a few words from Mr. CritiVEN. the Petition
was read, and ordered to lie on the table, and to be

printed.
Mr. H. SI'MNER hroncht up theltepent
ststing tof the Com
mittee nu the Newington Select Vestry Bill. hat
the parties in dispute had agreed that the Sill should hr
aritbdriwn.
The Hill was seeorlingky iritbdravta. oe the tricCian,
of gr. 11. S....usk.tt.

it.
Mr. C. JENKINSON approved of the Rill, and
thooolit the lion. and Leagued Mover ut it deserved the
gratitude of the House.
Mr. CA LCRAFT said his Hon. and Learned Friend
(Mr. Scarlett) deceived himself' if he thought the Bill
out with general approbation. Ile trusted his Hon.
and Learned Friend would not press it this Session.—
The lion. Member referred to an official statement he
had received from the parish of Broadwater in Sussex.
shening that the Poor Kates could be lowered under
a proper administratiou of the present laws.
MN LOCKHART thought there mlist be some fal-
lacy lo the statement adduced by the Honourable
Alember. The rate must always be regulated by
the price of bread ; and he thought the reduction
spoken of mast be a nominal rather than a substantial
reduction.
Mr. F. PALMER was suprised at the doctrine of
his Honourable Friend, the Member for Oxford,
that the rate could not he reduced under the present
laws. lie (Mr. Palmer) knew an instant.e in lied•
furdsisire in which this had been done with a very be-
nelicia effect.
Ails. a fe.v word. from Mr. Alderman C. SUM. the
Petition was read, and on the question that it should
lie on the table,
Mr SCAILLETT salil he sh. u:d have been willing
to postpone the Bill, if the subject of it had not
engaged general attention foe a consider .bie time. He
had expected opposition to the measure fermi large
towns, but he thooght that opposition arose fern /hi,.
apprehension of the subject. lle woad not have pr...
posed the Bill, had be not felt convinced that it would
improve the moral condition of the poor.
The Petition was then ordered to he printed.
Mr. LS• I. I I.F:IA ON presented a Petit ion from a ; 'lace
in Stathirdshire criiiiplainin:l of an reasion, to their
itiju y, of the Hawkers an.; Pedlars Act.—Orde feu to
lie on the table.
Colonel DAVIE: m 'veil 6.r he appointment of a
Clfinaiiiiee to inquire into Cue present practice of adul-
%crating Clover WEST
I efoil.NDlAOFUND.rdered.
Mr. CHEEVEI rose. pursuant to notice, to
bring under the consideration of the Howie a Fond
called the 4; per Cent. Fund. It had been mentioned
to the House on 'former occasion, and it was the more,
fit for consideration, as esery attempt at retrenchment'
bad hitherto failed. Many tientlemen and I,adies of
high rank had this Fund in their pocket., and he
thought they so had it in direct violation of the law.
The resolution lie proposed for the adopt' of the
House, related to the Island of itarbadoes wily. •Ha
should preinise a Colonial Act relating to this Islaae,
passed by the Colonial Assembly in the year 1663.--1
it imposed certain duties on imports fur the purpose of
promoting works of public utility. It was this fond,
ont of which the pensions bad been granted of which
he complained, and he should be glad to know,. whe-
ther the claims of these Gentle men and Lady Pensioners
ought to be put in competition with the chain's of the
public. A Petition un this sub Ad ject been presented
to the House in the reign of Queen Anne: and a Com-
mittee, appointed in consequence, reported that the
funds arising out of the Act is question ought to be
applied to public purposes only. A pension had been
alluded to as pav,ible to the Earl of liinnoul, out of
these funds, hut this pension stood upon . peculiar
.grounds, as is arose out of a contract made apse. the
original settlement of the Island; and this circlet's-
'inure, therefore, could afford no justification for the
Pensions of the present Lady and. Headsmen Pen-
sioners. Even after the practice began of grantiag
Fusions oot of this food common decency was pre-
served. which was entirely lost sight of now. linder
all the eiresiostauces of the law of the we, the justice
..nol the deceacy of the practice' he thought it *gold
n,t be whir( too much of the Hama to sleet& that,
withood disturbipg the present. infanlheots On • the
iii:ol, tutu of whom !:,ig!it be widows and orphans de-

Mr. 601:L81 :RN
spew of candour which
those who had brought
tention of the House,'
part connected with the
it in its true light.
fortunate on isceovit
sued from the press .
fessing to give a corree
which was replete wit'
able for concealing all
true notion of the stet
not intending to stir
Gentleman, (Mr. CI
House on its guard
of the description hi
fore the House wits
of relieving this cou'
but was a question si
country, and all that
of four and a half pc'
of Ilarbadoes. Thit
siderable amount, an
change for a valitabl
the is-land a seminal(
the time the grant
state. This cuuntr:
and effectually, and
ment, the grant
Amongst other betieli!
intervention of the '
lief bum the burden
ber, however, 'tau
Croon for the speci
fortifications of tin
hating the pension
admitted. In ord.
correct, it might be
the As:etnti'l of 0
the holy that madi
seen, that in 1665,
the le” lug SUO,OOOI
repair of the fn: tic
in later )ears tt
completely dispi
this grant as a
further proof of
gargled by those
cortl,that in 104,
King of England
for an adequate
although at that
which the King
a-year. As to the
country regarded
;he accession of
the disposal of
appeared that
Committee on the
heen unable to as
was. Ii; intked,
tog and intent of
el at ,fie tianr w'
after, the is. an,
from the con-tro,
country at rani.
and (pint the isih
self : and trout
theme ‘oulcrp,
dignity t.,
I lie
Linn upon that
Mr. BERN.%
;•..r recapitillat,
'he tiratot of tl
Land of Barber
w'4l/1 a contequo
was involved,
shout the time
encouraged and
tion to try their
against the WI
worse conglitiot
dilemma applied.
tion to arrange t.
Monarch, instead
vetted it to a
these unfortat
of that Hong',
ren,lan misfit
vision was one
consequence
wen, that this
from the reluctant
law of the case.
consiitntionil •
Mr. BEN
Friend (al r.
was, it. fact
Island of lia,
plundering
point of view,
of the Crowe,
nefi!. ilusre'
Art ; beesur
but it was
was to be low
should vote
Creevey), bein;
law; he. was
Mr. HUi
do% without
thutlemats,

tiff fond; tnth ,
Ilia.' Gentleman
rardoft•fact.;-that
to ' certoil
he (]lr. HI

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as of existence from their pea- 1
r the future no further pensions
, .
mthe fund, and that when the 1
t it should die, the fund shosid .
original purposes. If the Howie
his, it would be one of the most
d ever been guilty of. After the
. '
sposed of the motion relative to
If the 41 per Cent. "sad, le
mmittee on the Leeward Island
'able Gentleman then moved his
odying in substance his previous t
- ,
' said, that notwithstanding the
ch had been made on the part of
ht forward this subject to the at-
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, they had overlooked almost every
the question, calculated to place 1
He regarded this as the more un-
tof a publication which had ite- '-
on the subject of this fund, pre- I
Irrect view and insight into it;
ith false statements, and remark-
s!l that was material to give a
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tate of the case. He noticed this,
iribute the publication to the Hon.
Creevey) but merely to rut the
nut to be biassed by information i
to had exposed. The question lie•
not a toestion asdo the possibi!liy
untry from any burden of taxatirri,
simply between Barbadoes and this
at could be saved from this Pohl 1
per cent. would be for the hencht
; .
is rat in question was one of eon- , t,
ititcwas, he contended, made in ca-
ble consideration, el!. to obtain fur
neat of its condition, which was, at
was made in a most lamentable •
ry had interfered for that purpo.e,
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d as a remaneration and reiinhorse-
had been made to the airy.' ti,
tietits conferred on the island by ti.o ,
e Crown of this country, was the te•
.n of a heavy poll tax. The lion Me...,
tell, that the grant was made to tite
cilie purpose of keeping in repair t'.e.
to island, and for that purpose alone, - i • .
111 to the l'..irl of Kinnoul, which ha At
ilt-r to see how fer this statement heat
be well to refer to the declarations of. i
the Wand at that time, which w._3
ale the giant. It would there te
5, that Assembly passed an Act fur . 1 •''
,000Ibs. of eager to be applied to the , ,4
1
ifications, and many subsequent Ai :N.
to the same effect might be funny'..
proving that that body impeded .
t provision for that purpose. As.,a. 1)--.'
if the light in which it was re• •.:k •!
who made the grant. it was on re- 1.4-'•
14, the Assembly of Barbadoes offered O. e
dto commute the duty .of 44 per cent. ,r HI
compenaation,which was fixed at6ollol. t •
,
at time it only produced 70001. out t.f , ' lk
paid the Governor of the island l'illt.h.
lie light iu which the Parliament of Gr..
id the fund, would be seen by its act on •
King William, by which it was placed at
1 .
lie Crown, as part of the Civil List. It
the Hon. Gentleman wished to have 1
lie Leeward Island Acts, because he li.,d
melee any thing out of that subject as it •
ii. it were possible to deduce the mean-'
of a law from the construction placed on
Then it was parted, and for forty years
i • li
114 of the Act of 1663 was to be leamt
ruction put on it by the Parliament of this
ions times, from the conduct of the Crown, f
,mission of the island of Barbadoes it- • i .
tne view he took of the subject front i
lie was compelled, for the honour and
t.rown, which was the ostensible object of •
dices motion, to move the previous goes- . i
, motion. i
a L supported the motion. The Hon. Mem- qk i
rod the historical farts which hail led to .
tie 41 per Cent. Fund on the part of the
odoes to the Crown of Great Britain. It
1 11
ience of the troubles in which that Wan,' ,
from the rapacity of the English Nola,:
le of the reign of Charles the Second, who
nil seconded adventurers of every descrip•
sir fortunes in acts of force and aggression .
Vest India island.. This island was in a
on than any of its neighbours, and in that
lied to Charles the Second for his interpoai. )
i
ge its affairs. That ungrateful and unjust
tend of obeying the call of distress, cin.
: means of enriching himself by plundering
'nate islanders. Ile appointed *Committee
le, to consider of the matter, and Lord ('la-
Uliairman of it, and his conduct on that ar-
mof the article' of his impeachment. The ••
of this applicatien to the English Monarch
is Duty or Tax of 44 per Cent. was extorted 1
•luctant Colonists. Ile cared not abont the
rear, he %%Wuxi it to be looked at in a fair
al point of view. , .
iiNP.T agreed in the opinion of his lion. l
Bernal) as to the origin of the fluid. It 1
t, the proceeds of a tax forced upon the '
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larbadoes, by an arbitrary, oppressive, anti ,
: Government. But, in a constitutional•
ew, the fond, although tinder the contront • 4 t
we, was to be employed for the public he-
sever, it was not what was done with any
use abuses might he committed under 19 .
what the act empowered to be done Ural;. .
looked at in a question of this kind. • Ile
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:e fur the motion of his lion. Friend (11F.
being eolivilec:ed that if • he was not right l'n"'
as iv expedirucy. It. • :
91E could hot lei the question go to s dirk.
out observing en the want of candottirin the' .
tlernan.opposite (Mr. (ioulburn) in charting .
• of a certain publiCation On .lib stihiect of ' i.
, with a Wish triallisliad. the ignorant.: The • •
Rieman foindid. that c6arli of ushtive At . • i
I,4act-;-that the staffer lid' 1-biteellOirei4 '
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It giii certaii (tallttrainte; • SAW liVatfidenfs
Rime) maintained, none but the lion. Lien.