The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-12-20 00:00:00

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the delay of a few days, one of thoie iiitermidiate
days being one which the Christian would roam
dedicate to the offices of religion, chart to any po.
!ideal discussions, hoposver important, for he had
no objection to.recuive a previous communication
from tile Collie:ions, on the subject, but he trusted
that no farther delay would be recommended for,
such a purpose. He should consider such a pro-
position as au insult on the Ilouse, and an acqui.
escence in it to be no less injurious than degrading.
As Peers of Parliament, it was part of their pe-
culiar and most important functions, to interpose
whenever such interposition was called for, to pre.
serve the integrity of the Office, and to
defend the interests of the peuple. In the execn.
tion of this trust, he hoped that House would ne.
ver be found consenting to arrangements that might
seem to imply, or might truly imply, an incapacity
to feel, of a reluctance to perform all the obligations
mhicli it so powerfully enjoined,
The Eurl of LAUDERDALE combated the
chief position of his Noble Friend, which he said
was built on a distinction, which he never could
recognise, the distinction' between the political and
the natural capacity of the Crown. Ile well knew
that this distinction hail been antecedently laid
down; and highly appreciated by some lawyers of
great reputation, He had no difficulty in express.
ing his opinion, that it was a distinction without any
solid bawl and partook much more of the nature
of a quibble than a legal definition. He had not
forgotten that the quibble had been heretofore
productive of the molt injuriou3 consequences,
that it had furnished the ground for proceed.
ings of the most desperate character. It must
be in the recollection of Noble Lords, that
by means of such a distinction, the political
capacity of the Crown had been formerly con.
verted to the purpose of making war in its natural
capacity.—[We understood the Noble Lord to al-
lude to the history of Charles the First.)—The
year 1788, lie wished to remind the House, furnished
two precedents for the preseut occasion. The con.
duct of the Parliament in the Sister Kingdom ap-
peared to his mind to be the mast worthy of itui.
tation, and every featurgAu the character of his
Royal Highness tha Prince of Wales concurred to
st;engthen biotin this opinion. He would not pro.
tract the present conversatiou by deielling at length
upon these topics, as they would become the sub.
ject of future and more ample discussion, and
should,•therefore, conclude by remarking, that the
awful situation of public affairs, and the important
events which had occurred sincell7BB, called for a
solernu review of all those argumeuts on which the de.
visions and measures of that period had been founded.
. The Earl of LIVERPOOL wished to be in.
formed, as a matter of convenience to many Noble
Lords, whzther it was intended to move any proposi-
tion tomorrow upon the Report being presented ?
Lord HOLLAND was not aware of its being in.
tended to move any proposition to. morrow. Being
upon his legs, however, he would just observe,
that he agreed with his Noble Friend' (Lord
Grenville) in the necessity of making a legisla-
• tire provision, but contended that they ought
first to establish a ropruseustative of the Royal
Authority, fur the purpose of giving a constitu.
tional sanction to such legislative measure, by the
measure glanced at by his Noble Friend, via. an.
Address to his Royal highness the Prince of Wales,
to take upon him that authority. He would hot,
however, enter inlay the subject now, as he might
go on to too great a length, and the discussion would
1)..t at present premature. With respect to the se.
coed resolution of 1788, which it appeared to be the
intention of the Noble Earl opposite to propose
upon this occasion, he should fed it his duty to give
it a direcfnegative, if, as he trusted would be the
case, some Noble Lord did not move upon it the
previous question.
Earl SPENCER was merely anxious for him-
self and other Noble Lords, to lay in a claim, that
it might not be imputed to them that they had ac.
riniesced in the proceeding, the intention of 'mope-
' sing which had been intimated. This having been
done, he had no intention of making any propose.
Lion to-morrow. It would, hoot:ger,. be convenient
to several Noble Lords to know, whether the No.
ble Earl opposite wont!. certainly move the• resulu.
Lions which lie had mentioned, unThursdar, or whe-
ther his moving them depended upou any commune.
cation to be received from the house of Couintoni:

The Earl of LIVERPOOL replied, that he
could merely say, that it was his intention at pro.
sent to propose some measure ou Thursday.
Lord GREY VI LEA; observed, that of course it
could not be foreseen what circumstances might oc-
cur in the mesas time, but it would be highly desira.
ble to know, whether the Noble Earl intended
certainly to propose any measure oo Thursday, or
whether he inieoileft to 'wait for any communication
from the Hum* of Conimons.

Tine Ender LIVERPOOL repeated that it was
his lineation to propose souse measure on Thurstidy.
Lord 11.94 LAN 1.) said, if the Noble Earl did
not propose some measure on Thursday, he (Lord
Holland) should move an Address to his Royal,
Hoginiess the Prince of Wales, to take upon Win
the exercise of the Royal Authority.
The Lords were ordered to be summoned tor to,.
morrow. .
The Earl of Lll'{2ool, wished, before the
[louse separated, to mention tkat dunkis bad arisen
whether, in the pretest state of the House, proxies.
Could be recavod, be therefore thought it would be
iniviseakle to appoint I Committee to search foe
precedents upon the sobject, and intethicd to Make
a motion to that effect on Thursday. • , .
Cid STANHOPE thought it very strange that,
eke Noble Earl should make the motion ou Thurs.
day, the day un which the question would arise
whether proxies ought to be received.
Tito Earl of LW ERPQoLobseived, that if the
preceik. f UsB, which' it was proposed to adhere
to, was fo • by the Hems. Molting Itself into-
a Censniitteolik.lll4gState of the- Nation, proxies
Gould nut, of cOsei, be teceived. tie had 1113 4)1).
)(maim, howetek4itope for klitailep,oittimeut of
the Committee tb.mortuw. ,' . .
l!'arl STANIIOPE said, the Noble Sari was
';gain wrong, fur
.bow did the2Soble Elia know,
OW the Been wo agree tit attlie proposed I •
•The Earl of 1, . lt.PoOr, gave notice of his
raisio fgr tO.lLlcrre
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