The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-02-24 00:00:00

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUE
Out there was now no danger of the public
s loss similar to that adverted to by the Honoarabli
Baronet.

"(nose was satisfied that such bad been the conduct of
the Judge in the present case, the proper course
'mold be, either to lay a charge upon the Table by
fay of impeachuieut, or to propose an Address to the
Crown fur but removal. If the Judge was supposed
b.iee exceeded his powers, the case might also be
bought before the House in the shape of a declaratury
Dili, and that course woull be equally open to ans.
Member who deemed this a fit case for the interp.:si-
ties of Parliament.
Mr. BERNAL put it to the Noble Lord (tastie-
r whether, in these times, it was discreet to tlis-
r glad the sense of the people, or to do any thing
%nit h tended to impose farther restrictions upon the
right of petitioning ?
gr. IIitSKISSON said, the Honourable ,and Learned
CiLdlentan (Mr—Denman) bad states' that the Petition
charges! tie: ',earned Judge with having in posed fines
cpuu the Petitioner, in order to defeat the ends of jus-
tice, sod that having obtained his end, he afterward
whether
. mate ptotligate or corrupt motive could possibly be
',sated to a Judge? He WAS satisfied that the senti-
st-nts and feelings of the people of England were far
from caieeitlinee with those expressed by the Petitioner,
tonkisii repeated that the House was hound to reject a
Pe titan which was admitted to contain a gross libel.
Sir B. FERIA:SON said, the plain and simple spies-
tionbefore the House was, whether his Petition should
he rejected by that House, unheard, ;old unread.—(llear,
isarl—His Hon. and Learned Friend (Mr. J. P.Grant)
1, td aelowwleslged that he was not present when the Pe-
t—ins, was presented ; and he believes! the Noble Lord
ts..i L., friends were in the same situation, and that they
is .I.‘ pot even heard the portion of it which was read. And
yet, ?sob.' the Honourable Member, the Noble burst dares
—I ss..e, the Noble Lord errs to come down to this
Louse, and call upon the House not only to reject the
ketition but to admonish the people against the exer-
cise of ;he sacred right of laying their grievances Woe
Parliament.—(clear, hear, hear.)—lf the language of
a Petition were decorous and respectful, it was a matter
of COUrSC that it should he brought up to the tattle and
read; and if afterwards it appeared to be inadmiesile,
i• was still in the discretion of the House to receive or
reject it. Ile trtistell the Noble Lord would at least suffer
t!.e Petition to be read.
Mt . C.BAN KES objected to its being brought up, partly
because it was inexpedient that such a document should
lie on their table, unless some ulterior measure were to
he founded upon it, and partly because it was false.—
Tholigh lie tint not stand in that House as the advocate
of Oa Learned Judge, and it would he unlieeousitte in
hive to assume that charactet, yet lie could not help re-
gretting that tbe name of that venerable petesun had
1.. en hrought before the Hun se in a manner which was
s to lie deprecated and deplored.
Mr. CURIVEN, lung as he has' sat in that House,
:the n. as had been the singular things be hail been
...lee there, ee ere, l! never 'lssas' of any thing so singular as
t present opposition to the bringing up of this Peti-
eatt.--(Cheers.)--Ile trusted that, whenever there
>s.ould appear to be any thing dubious in the conduct of
It Judge, there would always be some one bold enough
s britie it forward in that (form.—(('(toots.)—The
...I.:outage of that course he could iiinstrate by the pre-
tetst ease. Ile h,‘l feit great ,'nub's as to the Learned
.:u.lge's condut ; bet, *time hearing the present dis-
ansten, every d,:& wan ', nloved. and he was convinces'
Celt the Judge had acted ;scarcity right. lie trusted
that Judges were net to be defended by one side only
of that House. He regretted the intention expresses
1 v the Nelda Noble, and hoped the Noble Lord would
Cot act upon it.--(howl cries of hear, hear, hear.)—
Ile ofitl say tlt,t it was the right of the people to
causpi tin to thst I loese of the conduct of Courts ofJus-
tice. it when the eetitint, should be read, it should be
found to impute to the Learned Judge, as the object of
his conduct,' to obtain a conviction, then he would cun-
t:sr with the Noble Lord in rejectingit. When the Noble
Lord talked of readiug a lesson to the people of Eng-
land not to come to that ilunse with their complaints,
did Ise consider the consequences of the people bring
. seltupellesl to loci.; fur is dress by other means at the ex-
pense of the roustitutien ?—(Cheers.) There was a
'to'r't--be it stub.: not 5.1 y where—but there was a point
et which resist thee Wit% a virtue and a right ; and if the
Petitiou were it fused to be brought up, the moment at
which we slum.... A-tit eat that point would be accelerated.
'Me people, tree el sig as they were at this moment, ought
to be treated Avitil every indalgence by the House of
Cettumons. He hoped, therefore, the Noble Lord would
tact persist in hisopposition.
Nr. 1.07•:<1 said, his noble friend (Lord Castle-
eeaela) had b. en tisisimtlerat 1. What his amble friend
had said was, it. at petitiens, tile substance of which could
not be entertaintel,otight not to be brought up ; lett Ise
hail never u•tere.l the sentiments which gentlemen un
tie teller side liathfolinsi it convenient—had never titter-
ed theeentimenb width gentlemen on the other side had
tounil It extremely roliveitirnt to impute to him. He
had naderveoed that lite I.etition stated the jmlge to have
impend tin, s for the etirptsme of interrupting the defence,
ars: thus ts.staitsing .a onviction, and to have remitted
tie fines upon having elstained his object. I.oultl there
la: a greater—could there Le a grosser charge of cot.-
ruptloo?
31r. J. P. GRANT and Mr. C. LONII explained.
Sir J. NEWPORT asked why was there a committee
of Puke appoieteil at the beginning of every session if
the conduct of courts of justice could not he brought be-
fore that horse.
The cumwEmon of the EXCHEQUER said
that tilers tuned net he a better reason fur rejecting
a ;widen than that it contained what the mem-
ber who presented it knew to be false. He
atemessettled that the House of Cottonton could not
become a count of appeal from the King's Bench.
Mr. LEN3IAN spoke in explanation. The whole
question was, not wiseiber the Judge had the right o f
fining, bat whether that right had been discreetly ex-
ercised.
Mr. R. MARTIN spoke at some length against the

re.otion.
Ihe Muse then divided--
For the motion. 87 I Against it, 84. I Majority 27.
On oar ltuission to the gallery we found the
House ()Oct jug the production of a variety of accounts
rel.iling to iinported commodities.
OR AMPOUND DISFRANCHISEMENT BILT..
Lard A LTHORP, on the part of his Hon. Friend
(Lord John liut,sell), moved that the further consi-
titration of the report of the Orompound Disfranchise-
ment Bill should be postponed till Wednesday next.
After same conversation between the Chancellor of
the Exchequer and his Lordship, the motion was
agreed to.
On the motion of Mr. Onut.auan the House then
resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House,
to consider of allowances to be made to the Officers of
the African Company.
The Nora Scotia Trade Bill was then reed a second
time, and ordered to be committed on Monday next.
The New South Wales Duties Bill was also read a

second time.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT took this oppertaaity of
bringing to the recollection of his Majesty's Minis-
ters the case of a defalcation to a large airman wbieb
had occurred a few years ago.

ISLANDS.

lONIAN
Mr. HUME roll, pursuant to notice, to bring un-
der the consideration of the House several particulars
relative to the state and revenue of the lonian Islands.
The lion. Member took a rapid review of the state and
a:fairs of these islands since the treaty of Paris, by
which their iwlependence was acknowledged, and after
adverting at some length to the changes that had taken
place in that system of economy on which their Govern-
ment had been previously conducted, concluded by
moving " fur a detailed abstract of the revenue and
expenditure, both civil and military, of the lonian
Islands during the year 1817, 1818, and 1519, dis-
tinguishing each year.
Mr. CIOULBURN replied to the charges of extra-
vagance adverted to, and concluded by declaring that to
some parts of the motion he should agree, but to others
lie could not, for it would be to exercise a control over 'I
an independent Government, not fairly amenable to the
orders of that House.—(Hear.)
Col. DAVIES said, that at a moment when economy
was so isierispensale, it ought to be as rigidly purse .41 in
the colonial establishments as in any others. He corro-
borated the statements of his Hon. Friend, (Mr. Hume),
and lamented that matters of such alumna were discussed
in so thin a house.
Mr. 001:LBURN explained.
Lord CASTLEREAIsiI said, that the House ought to
be obliged to the lion. Gent. who brought forward this
question, because it enabled his lion. Friend (Mr. (Mill-
burn) to justify and defend the measures of s;r Thomas
Maitland. So far as the accounts were within the cow
trul of the British authorities, there could be no objection
to their production.
Mr. BERNAL defended the Honourable Mover for
bringing forward this sibject, and complained that he
was always attacked because lie was not I repared with
full official details, which could alone be had by the gen-
tlemen opposite.
Sir 111:NRY PARNELL declared his entire concur-
rence in the course taken by his lloimurable Friend,
which he had nu doubt would be productive of the g reat-
est possible public benefit.
Mr. HUME replied, and complained of the defective
information which he had been uniformly able to get
from the Colonial accounts. lie re-stated his previous
sentiments respecting the mad-administration of the
lonian Islands, and, In contradiction to what the Noble
Lord opposite had assertedoleclared his belief that there
was no greater jobber than the governor alluded to.
Mr. (if/UMW RN explained, and the motion was then
agreed to.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL obtained leave to bring
in a bill for the further expediting of the business in
the Court of King's Bench.
Mr. DAVID; tiILBKRT gave notice, that 'on Tues-
day next be should move for leave to bring in a bill to
regslate the turnpikes is the neighbourhood of London.
Adjourned at Twelve o'clock.

.4 PL4CEMAN! ! !

TO TILE EDITOR OF TILE STATE:SMIN.

Sta—The terrible uproar—the abominahle yell we
bear from morning till night—from one end of little
England to the other—from bare ka,r'd SCOTLAND
Id naked INILLAND, about " the distressed state of the
country "—about commercial destruetior.—" agricul-
tnral misery "—" mannfacturing wretchedness "
about bankruptcy" pauperism °'—" cash and piper
money "---the "CALANDatt and the u onstiousa "
sets me nut of their senses. Why till not men be
loyal and be patient—why will they not be aattotous
and resigned. Ito they not know ? ves—right well
they tto—that our hmporary distress is mere temporal
punishment ; that it is, as we have been told a thou-
sand, thousand times, by our worthy representatives
Session after Session these Ma years—only the
sadden transition front war to peace ; like R long sleep
after a hard journey. Why then will the people
taro this wholesome, this renovating repose of their
country with their discontents, because forso they
are reduced to prerty. Oh cursed love of gain
To abstain from metaphor, and those heves and
figures, ill suited to the canaille, I think I may aver,
without the fear of being contradicted, that all the
disgusting poverty we uteet--all the rags—all the
gaunt and gritny fares—indeed, indeed all the horri-
ble crimes that the odious mobile commit, are altoge-
ther the fruits of their own rtie4ffeetioa and their
irre/Onn; both of which are the consetineness of
that I have always so highly disapproved of,—the
(lineation of the "lower orders." Show me one poor
man that is loyal—show ms one LovAL man that is

POOR.
You will probably ask me is LOYALTY a trade or a
profession? and what reroute it produces ? P_LA r r
Sir, PLACE!!! WhiCil is not only certain reroute, but
an exemption lions all responsibility to law or to ji
tire. PLACE, Sir, PLACE ;no matter bow low—how
mean—how poor—how insignificant—nay contempti-
ble, arc " tticnr4, mONOII, and sscueurv!" because,
Sir, the IsysTrm must be supported, and its Ger-
PORTERS nowt be protected!
Let all men he loyal and refiring:, and instead of
grumbling about "agricultural, manufactnring, awl
commercial distress," and of walking off to that er-
quisite refuge for sellsifiility and nsiefertnise, the
wouanousg, look for a PATRON and a poet " under

government.
Sir, I will qnote you an instance which will press
most satisfactorily to your readers, the valise of the ad.
vice I now give them, and of the principle I' hare
laid down, via .that no matter how mean, poor, tone
laid
or vile a PLACE is, PLACE is rieas, Aonor,
and protection." Some of your ruspicious and envious
minded creatures, will, I right well know, say, not
only that I am ironical, but that my instance is a
" Joe MiUer."—" Joe Miller" me, and I'll give them
ten thousand lining instances, much more convincing.
and much more amusing too, than the following.
A certain regiment was quartered in a certain city.
In the said regiment, a certain very Amnon. officer ob-
served that a certain coareaat. had Every long and
dismal face--a dismal care worn ragged wife, and a
large family of squalid squalling brats, all the pic-
ture of ejected penury g whilst ovum coateoaass and
their ladies, and children appeared fa the greatest

affluence.
Use day this Inseam Acer mostiosed to that poor
oteissehar (allow, his oboorratioss and his cospori- 1
sons :--" Al, yosr boar, amid the Gorpral. they
have all PLACES is the regiwest--every OM except
myself."
The Cartels was efflesead--it was trso—they au.
except Net, bold Nose irettr like kt the roglisest.
Aker seam further teseereptiou au the subject, the

iittain, would be his patron.
Shortly after, the'axettev.txv waiteti on his honor,—
there was now a sacsacy—.` The Corporal who dis-
tributed the cradles was dead." The Captain beard
the application with a smile at the poor fellows sim-
plicity. It was a et.sca WITHOUT either salary or per-
Irisites. However, he procured him the PLACR ; for
which service the Captain was amply repaid by many
a hearty laugh with his companions, about the root
and the CANDLLS.
By and by a most wonderful change was observable
in the appearance of the Corporal and his family—
from dismal he became quite gay, his wife became a
belle; his little ragged half starred urchins, "mas-
ters and misses." It was at once concluded that the
FLACK'S.% N must hare been guilty of the Newel little
Plaeciaamlike erro•PtCULATION. A strict watch was
accordingly set upon his conduct ; but notwithstanding
it appeared—most satisfactorily appeared that not one
candle—not one candle butt seas deficient, and that no
collusion whatever existed between him and the
chandler.
Satisfied that there must be somewhere or somehow
a PHAUn, the PATRON sent fur the prOrtre, and anxious
to gratify his curiosity, promised him most so-
letnnly, that if he would confess in what manner he
derived the profits of his ',Ls( c, he would not only
keep his secret, (of course for the honor of time regi•
went, and the honor of the patron), but be his
friend.
After immense persuasion, the " root." confessed
that his frifi. dips each canine in a put of boiling
water, and sold the far.
A PLACE, Sir, a PL tea! no matter bow small--nay
without salary or perimisites, is worth all the imdus-
t,-y—all the worth all the laboorious,
anxious, precarious trades and prf•ssioke in Eng.-
land ; and is, 1 assure von, the only means 1 see left
to keep iodestry from the wouxtmoest-:, and geniss
or.a • • • • •
from n

Holiday at all the Publ.c Mess.

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LONDON:

PATURDAT t•ZNINC, VI llitrAßT 2-1, 1521.

Owing to a report yesterday aUernnon in the city,
that an insurrection had taken place in the North of
Italy, the Fonds rather declined, and left off 734 to
J.
This morning, we understand, a failure has taken
place at the Stock-Exchange. The name of the parties
we are not informed, but it is the difference on two
hundred thousand Stock.

RETRACT 01, A LETTER FROM Or R PRIVATE CORRES-
PONDENT AT PARIS.
P nts , FEL 211.-1 need not add, that there is scarcel y
ans• political crime which the Continental Stats do not
think our Ministers capshle of performing. Will you
believe it that the most enlightened and liberal men in
Paris, cannot be persuaded out of an idea, that Lord
Castlereagh and his friends are on the %watch, n iv,
fomenting the existing differences between Naples and
the holy Alliance, for the express purpose of havin:t
a pretest to seise Sicily ! So deeply are they impressed
with this opinion, that I really believe an angel from
Heaven would not remove it. Van will readily conceive
that it has furnished a new source of vituperation, and
if founded on a 'billow of truth, I am free to confess,
that no punishment would be too severe for so infa-
mous a policy. If the Ministers do do away with this
itnpression, so disgraceful to our notional character,
they may rest assured that it will serve to swell the
number of our crimes in the eves of Europe, and we
cannot well afford to increase the catalogue. " Good
God !" said a distinguished French patriot, a few days
ago, " Ilow is it possible teat Englond can let the
present opportunity of immortalizing herself, and at
once acquiring the moral as well as physical sovereign-
ty of Europe, slip through her fingers! Let her Par-
liament but :Ay the word, and constitutional govern-
ments will instantly replace the old despotisms, which
are incompatih!e with the spirit of the age, and must
perish by their own decrepitude." 1 could only re-
ply, that nine-tenths of the whole population wished for
nothing so winch as to see its rulers adopt the plan
he recommended, adding, that those who judged the
people of England by the conduct of its Ministers and
their supporters, were guilty of the grossest injustice.
'Bll.

In th,.. House of Loris last night, the Earl of
DONOCOMMOIIIt presented a series of petitions for
Catholic Emancipation, from several parishes and
larger 4listsolets of Ireland; and, lastly, from the en-
tire body of Irish Catholics. These petitions, his
Lordship said, he presented with renewed hopes,
ender the auspices of a new and nnpledted Parlia-
ment, and a KING whose mind might not he swayed
by suck scruples as influenced his predecessor. The
Noble Earl, perhaps, might have some ether ground
of hope. It is not improbsble that the Catholics of
Ireland had received an intimation, some time back,
that if they refrained from 'ltch addresses as proeeed-
from the people of England to a certain illustrious fe-
male, it might be better for them. We cannot other-
wise explain the silence of the Irish Catholics, on an
occasion calculated to call forth every generous, gallant
sentiment, which Irishmen are proud to cherish, and
which actuated every independent breast in every
part of the British Island. Chagrined as we were
on this account, our feeling in behalf of Catholic
Emancipation conduces, notwithstanding, as ardent as
ever. The great question respecting it, is considered
as fixed in the House of Lords for Thursday se'nnight.
A very animated debate arose in the Mouse of Com-
mons out of a motion made by Mr. Ditsmax for re-
ceiving a petition he presented from Tootles Davtsox,
tinder a sentence of the Court of King's Bench for the
publication of a libel. Though the object of the pe-
titioner was so complain of an unprecedented proceed.
ing on the part of the Judge who tried his case, in
having repeatedly Sae& bins for expressions used in
the course of his defence, the petition was rejected, on
the ground tkat it dated that tbe object of tke Learn-
ed hale intertisg the petitioner was to have
hiss Ftwaistaeod

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