The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-10-16 00:00:00

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hid lie ever ask von if you woulddepose mit thing
aeairm her !loyal highness?
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1 1.. Ire sortserrontievlCSAL Objected to such a question
as wholly irregular. What had Keg:toil to do with the
ease?' -
Or. J.csirtxrertsv, in answer to the objection of the
Solicitotlieneral, toned their Lordships to look at the
diffwelties thee always laboured under before they
agreed upon heaping fresh ones upon them. The pm•
secutor had not as yet assumed any shape or form with
which they Could contend its equal warfare. if he were
called -upon.as describe the prosecutor in this case, he
should say it was a stock company, the partners in which
were the tiovernment and your Lordships. The ',tavern-
men t of this COliiitry !rot up the accusations on your Lord-
ships table, and yonr hardships ordered the Cqunset on
the other side of the Bar, to proceed to detail the charge
to your Lordships. Bar we contend that as there is no
prosecutor we should be allowed to prove agency which
is what the Solicitor.tieneral objects to. We leave it to
your Lordships to decide whether or not we are to sub-
mit to this new difficulty.
Mr. DeII3IIIN supported the argument of his Learn-,
ed Friend.' The lionse were to consider, that the
Bill of Pains and Penalties was also a Divorce Bill,
and r'tai It wits :did called a nun introduced for the
perporm of procuring substantial justice. how could
that justice lie obtained if the production of evidence.
as. to the subornation of witnesses, were to he oppos- ,
ed, because technical objections might exist ? In the
course of proceeding on this criminal prosecution,
lirszauti Ica., Er }relined, in this country. He was
one of the companions of itastelli. Whether he went
abroad to quiet the apprehensions of the families of
the sii: . . that remained—(Load laughter)--he
coedit not enactly say ; but, if he were in this country,
her Majesty could not consistently put into the box as
their n itners a person whom they charged with tise On Saturday we offered some remarks relative to
deepest crimes. he would not say that the crime the scathing Bast-Eu.l out of the kingdom ; and when
of subornation of perjury was fixed, bat he had a
we expressed our indignation at this act, we imagined
right to assume that it would be proved,
.and he
was ready to prose it. Hasten, had been sent out the turpitude of the whole proceeding against aloe Ma-
o! this country by a Milan Commissionet, under JIIITT had reached its climax. Events, however, be-
the authority of ass orde-,'signed by a Noble Lord gin to iipen.—One disclosure is the forerunner of
in the Ouve-ntrient ; and he thought it but fair another; and the circumstances of this prosecution
to notice that the nest malignant and atrocious
are assuming an appearance, to which all the powers
conspiracy thatasser was darkest against any defend-
ant, was the sole ground and origin of that prosect- of language must fail of doing justice. Mr. PoWELL's
Lien which was non pending. And it was now links examination of Saturday, has given as a little infor-
he claimed, on the part of the illustrious defendant, elation of the performance behind the curtain. What
the opportunity of establishing the existence of these be did tell us•was actually wrong from him; but at
most criminal practices, by showing the anode and cit.
last, he made a full stop, and declared lie would tell se
cumataittes in which the evideuee was scraped tegetheir.
no more; for that he was an agent ; and was, in law,
Unless her lifajesty's Counsel were permitted to do
this, she would be excluded from the only one ad. protected against questions regarding his condnct in
vantage attendinf the present mode of proceeding— that character! We will
,shew our Readers the legal
the examin'ation of agents—a cow* which would be application of this protection; and we will then ex
denied is say ordinary ease. Heir Counsel wersie2-
. ansiss' the propiety of its application to the present
tali, in the dark as to the modal, a tee *Han c
„Iwo,, with th„,„ptio, that that colowie,dou ma proimeding.
been begun and ended. It was impossible theists/ of For the benefit of commerce, and the insuring of
the practices that prevailed during the eitilag of the confidence between private individuals, this protec-
Commission, and which would be proved to be most tiun is allotted ; and allowed very properly.—But 1.1
abominable, could he extianeous to the fair and joist
criminal cases it is not allowed. %n those cases, oar
determination of the ease.
The At-roaxes-Oesen it said he would tell his admirable Rules of Law have always been founded
Learned Friend, and he would also tell their Lordships, upon the purest principles of justice ; anti, for the
that when the opportunity came for inquire, not only
would the cend„et of those gentlemen o.we were on•
discovery of truth, have torn down all the artificial
gaged in the Milan Commission be justified in the eyes relations of society, behind which the worst of men
of their Lordships,. but of the public else. He knew
they were none salientfor that inquire, and he was would gladly entrench themselves. But, as a slues
Joni-laced that the resolt would be far from reflecting osaiuple will outweigh a volume of precept, we shall
on them the slightest discredit, however hie Leaned give, what is called by lawyers, a case in point. Sup-
Friend might think fit to exhaust his invectives upon
them Bet he must correct himself, for he believed his pose a man were under trial at the (hl.l Bailey upon 1
invectives were not yet exhausted. But what had it to a charge of murder;—that lie wu proceeding to skew'
do with the question wises he assumed that Braganti that the charge u-as a conspiracy from its outset ; t
was authorised as an smolt of the Commission. The • .
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cat diewdeantegeof thuseidewt, „as admitted, would that the wtnesses had been drilled, clothed, fed, ex-!
*mined, and sworn in private; and that one of these i
He the Attorsey•Oeseral was interrupted by witnesses had biased the others with money : and stip...!
- The Loan Criareasuoa, who said that, any of their
. Lordships bad a doubt as to the ineduiseibility of the pose at this moment, the agent for the prosecution .
Astestion, it might be oesessary for the Attorney-General were called up, and questioned as to certain letters In 1
So proceed, but if they concurred with his, it would be his posseasion, relative to the proceedings ; and were
seeiesely occupying the tine of the House togo into the
Jurstion any farther. For his own part, he would not desired to produce these letters, that the truth might!
imitate to say that it was lha 'noel extravagant imp.. be discovered.—These circumstances bring premised,
laitieo which had erne bees mode to their Lordships.
ite to the.eareeetou ss jetutedoek compeer.- and sued. suppose, (if we ran suppose such barefaced atrocity,)!
lar once...whether that was hutgaage proper to be used this man were to answer " I AM ens •011:NT roe tea
to their Lordships, was another matter. But *leather 42
oaxerroa ; AND I evict. NOT IMODUCt THIN!" The
the .prosecaten were visible et invisible, and whether.
-the'proceeding was criminal or not,one thing was clear, Itrisoner would at that moment be on the verge of
that no such question could he permitted. bath ; perhaps morally innocent, but, at all events,
•Lerd Lernoroot asked what the question was ?
tties•of.lisi on, gig on.) Hutment in the eye of the law. Can we be certain
idr.Shilisau said that he wished, before their Lord- that, io such a case b even titer •saceed altar .of justice
ships adjourned, to submit to the Howe an application wtould protect this agent treat instant destruction at
---.it was to ascertain Whether Brigand was or was not
.ratwitata4 sateen t Be that
as it tiny, the
in•this country,. ,
mat. said, that
iton it di itdo
In:it:she: .rt: '.Wille'l J11441}11 would moot certainly acquit the Pei-
long Thu
lOSiticrl;4llrwthe mom, and leave the punishment of this agent for (*-
into the event whielt the Counsel for the Bill intended timeonsideratiin i unless indeed they should think
OD jOnsw: •. He had be right to redeems'r to discover peOpee to commit hid ,i, the spot. •
11:114 'the altaeleil were that they had is the "until' And is hot the Quene's ease a criminal proceeding ?
se whether .they to the Bar. it Issupowd. • to call them_,,
wee flif the &lONA lhe the Bill IO determine wises/pi Ii *static tuhaitAl altiaailaa alone, that has made
Simuutt or amputee elsa was to he called to costradiet the chair fail, jest short of High Tveason ? Has not
4iiir staihnetek-Whifib in the course of the primieding her-keratin vii tide trial, every thing at stake Which
•snight humesla.`: .• • eenlie dear to kic 1 her rank the revert ofk,
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lir. Dont** itheillieta all lathatlalk of latelfetlag lair sititstion ao a wi*, tad her isineintr as a Res; a
isith the enewoo *MA the: Camel for the promention
mineidetation stanagei Slims all the rest, and to wilie
limit to mince. He did. pet wool to ascertain whether
&whams was to Es balled iiseatradiet any mammas,; lib Itself ache smiting in the comparison ? Alf the*,
iir It tied beipefittew by Bastelli that Bragged nelei art threelewed I. hi slit Ida to defend their preeertatiwe
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LONDON:
I.IIONDAI EVCNINQ, OCTOVIR IS, 1820.

This morning the House of Lords was first engaged
in examining Sir .loin Bencsroap respecting the
'character of the Witness CARNING row. The credit of
that tittles• is a matter of the highest importance, st,
upon hi, testimony depends the opinion which their
Lordships must entertain of use character of LO!"NA
Da blux T. The character which the gallant Admiral
Rave of C.aaiNc•roN while in the service, our readers 11
will find, was excellent. The !louse was then occupied
a considerable time in slebafV, in consequence of Ur. i
Baotou sm.* insisting on knowing who the prosecutor
was. The question was evaded, at•.d the witness
Pisan was again called, and continued under examin-
ation When the Lost Reports arrit•ed.

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frond rFe en Satardayt. tit eat thwiioase or• Lords
would nut I rug uce the letters in ; and the
Lordships had che blameable farbiarAce to see;
affrutit upon justice to piss nnpassivb.rd.
The Moldier* of the Holm, of Lords ham,
stated their u ish to conform to the rnlea.Of the ere'.
nary Courts of Law; and srewili new stores cir Lara•
*alike of recce, occurrence; with Which ?awe sear
to shall disiniss the• present subject, withiut a single
flitether.inmment. An actinn was tried at the last As•
sines, before Mr. ,Justice models *ill b
good .enongh to keep in mind, that this Was a tart:s
riri! procervii•t; between two private individuals. it
appeared in evidence, that the plaiutitrs attorney lei
born talking to one yf the nituesses, in substance, t,
the following cfrect.—He told the witness, that it
would be irurortant,..in his testimoHy, to give a clear
explanation of a retain part of the plaintlifl caw;
for, un that ext.lination the whole question would tarn.
live Judge thuught that evert chi‘,--only this iatc•
fereuce, wait a pertersion of justice. Ile directed flan
plaintiff to be non-suited ; and his Lordship Cut.
tnitieti tioe 4tiornry to gniScon% where be remained aci,
the Assifes were concluded. •

11•Xl:PACTatE Cr? taataaaataia HAPta4ll/11,11.--
Le trrs were received in town on ffitturilay from Mr.
Charles Pearson, who was, at the.departure of Friday's
mail, about tu.set utf Imola Myer for the Continent, in
tinest of the manufacturer of the treasonable hand-biik
Mr. P. expressed his so p dun, hanere•, we un r•
st tad, that he may I are Lieu pnrp scly un a wrung
went. It is the ',pinion of many persons, that the
man Franklin, as he is now called, is still concealed in
London or its twig hboutlimal. It is expedient, the •
fore, that the friends of the public should not reiae
their diligemie in endeavouring to detect the fugitise,
and bring the whole of this atrocious plot to light,
A Corre•pondent mishes to be informed if the son
of Mr.
_Fletcher, the runaway; alias Forbes, alias
Franklin, was nut a clerk in the otfice at Marl-
boroo7h-street during the time Sir Robert Baker was
the Sitting Maristrate there ? Perhaps, Sir Robert,
or some of his-friends, *ill answer thi
PAIII4, 017. 12.--On Tuesday night it appears, at
a quarter past 14, a man attempted to gain admission
at the wicket of the Colonade of the Louvre, &ad bolsi
refused by the sentinel, the man fined a pistol at the
latter, the ball from swhich penetrated the sentinel's
echakos, but fortunately did •not wound him. the
sentinel fired. but the latter made his "cope. By-
as article extracted from a Dermas jourtal we
learn, that on the requisition of the French Oevern-
ment there has been arrested at Hanovor, the latter end
of September, a French officer, who bad been coaveyed
to Paris. fit is represented a °sea the thief Pietism,
of the conspiracy discovered at Paris in the month of
August. The .ifoniterr of Thunder tinsel's a Royal
°Monsieur, convoking the Electoral Colleges of the
Departments of the 4th Series, for the 4tis et Sorrel-
ber, and those of the Departments a the other series
which hare to elect Deputies fir the kith of November.
Falafel Fintos.--Five per cents: 1,4 L Sec.

On Friday forenoon last, an Italia', Courier, sr-
. rived at Brandenburg!' Hogue, with dispatches from
Milan for her Alajesty. He left Phan on the Stir
instant, and was fourteen hours on his psmage-froa
Calais to Dover. On the afternoon of the above daT,
he had his passport signed at the Austrian Anabass-
does, and immediately set out again for Milan, with
dispatches from her ;slajesty.•
His Majesty left Carlton House PslaM. sin Friday
night, for his Cottage at Windsor. . •
The King is expected shortly at Heighten, and will
protract his stay, it is said, for some weeps.

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