The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-03-30 00:00:00

No. 1276.

IMPERIAL

HOUSE OF LO

Mr. If R ORA t ate ajal
1,4 the maim, to the Llaubur:
nn rur4t,
~weal pohlic and private 1
Lanon... noyong the former
oriithisck Bill. which were
The Bills oa the table were
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CA 3tPAIG,
twol CRENV ILL I:, rose,
hall certain papers which hat
o,po, respernitx the conduct
furtaer papers had been moved
swn (leliverrd tn their Lordships,
ectiel to come from the Printer',
io:licit had isheadwlierw delivered, ,
ma' •itiver of tie Miele nude& ,
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pity st his 1iii,,,,4,7-141ey 1...
b".
yer3 (3 thing • believed , ---,hotly
which wean not ;only to color.,
trpot.ethe lives, of persons officia..
Otani in Spain. l'isioi, he believed-,
sidiplomatic correspondence, i'
groan he alluded to had
thos;ht the matte! a wit serious ,
omdd now rive swish of a mores.
nitwit Lordships to-narrow- -
deferring the fait:Kr pub! icat 1
ball eve ;mare .00d tendeary .
a4ertaineol. 1,1 the absintre of
h whom thew matters nixt• par
kioived, ;ie aanlil-1 not now -
Isisrver, to he informed by
Omni In error)! ) whether mi
*oda lobe J.:livered.
Toe Earl of LI VER POOL
papers alluded to by the Noltle
tire visa those that belonged I
Which belonged to the Alili to
We Piploonatir Papers were
they were ina grewarr degree
isr Military Papers would SOMI
rare of his !NW riiencl, tie -'
law aay detail ott the subject,
toe &one time that the producSiom
are,..:10b1.1 not be decided b-
lotuldiv that no further pa)
thistke discussion of which I
Fe in-noorrotv. In the meal
tn ram/wale-ate with his
llt‘lev).
Lord GRENVILLE expressed
!Able E:wl's proposition, and
le ammosed as to-Murrill W.--1
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Sir J. SINCL A TR Armtek
moo lands bordering on bietivrev
al the briskt of fences, &c. t rext
Ahe read worst dine ott Monda,
. General LOP ITS postpnor4 hb
tomorrow, respective the exemption tr.
Nei Macy frost the loesitee-Tax, to Thew,
It Person from tar gitehequersenteil
imiar awry imed.fram tWu
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tiWitaufiaatlie Meow of ..
the Lord Advocate of Scotland
hers, no the Corn MOM!
*we gave its permission fist/
A Nersalcosot the Lords _ _ ...mils'
ant In the flaunty Bill, gad Orrerideirate Bills.
The Irish gat Drawback Bill was r a third time,and
PePe F. BURDETT Ow notice that he Would on Tuesday
ad brig forward his mottos respect* Captaiu Lake.
' Ir. Alderman COM BE gave notice of a elution on Mon-
vin.
reLhittesithewAeot intore a Committee
fthe City
un iiVot
the Malt Acts.
iMen
None observations from Mr. Alderman Coons, Mr.
proposed several resolutions, which were agreed to;
ew resumed, and the report was ordered to be re-
11111111asmorrow.
•Os the motion of Sir SkIUEI, ROM ILLY, the Colas
"'got on the Criminal Laws Bill was postponed to Wed-
hotly.
The Cslbmittee on the Expiring Laws Bill was postponed
Otitis day sennight.
lord CASTLEREAGH aimed, that a Letter from Sir
lidliam buskin to the Quarter-Master-General, inclosing
Ike Report of the 10th of. August, 1809, shall be laid before
*Bose. The Noble Lord brought forward illis motion,',
W the pounds of illustrating cortaiu points which appeared
age evidence of the Quarter-Master-General, at tile Bar of
Illd House, relative to the number of the enemy's troops soi-
led as the Scheldt. and in Antwerp.
Tinfoil TARLETON did not object to the motion.
NI. CALCRA Et expressed iu strong terms ilil surprise
8 the Qoxiter-Master-Genera I's giving in an account which
Wel the amount of troops to be 33,900 men. including arliii-
en 4nd seamen, when it was the opinion of the Lieutenant-
eikeral, that exclusive of the artificers, the regular troop*
armed so that number.
General CR A W FOR D vindicated the character of his
tearable Friend from the imputation which had heewi
Groin on It by the florsiurahle ficoileinan. When the state-
aro of 35,eat men was given in, it was unaccompanied by
an olueirstion, and included the contiugeneies which are
to every army; the account lie gave was the hest pos-
Phk, hut certainly not the hest which could he wished. He
nodded with a warm panegyric on the gallant General,
shah he staled to be hell high in esteem by the immortal
r !Leah Abercrombie, and to whew conduct the sisfay
of the army in its retreat front Holland was owing; he
ankliiat have thought him:melt' worthy the Character of a
oak it he did not stand fur ward to defend hi. altaracter from
4aY limitation,
Mr. CA LCR AFT said, the Hon. Member had pot a eon-
action on what he haul alleged is Inch he did nut imend :" he
+awn/died the worth of General Brownrigg, vet he had
halitt to comment on hisiesttinony, as well Its time of any,
Wier (Meru whose evidruce appeared before the House.—
tot Jnern3l of tae.lloll. Gviwral he had heard spokes of
lin the greatest respect att.! credit ; but Genre it Br.iwnrigg
in. in a detailed paper, stated the amount of the troops tie
k Anol, eselusive of artificers :and seamen; and hail, at the
far of that those, made a seduction of nJUJ men trout Ire
*ititial account.
(Wirral t • It A 11' FORD explained.
Lsai CAS MLR E Mil I, in itt- o own lustifiration, would
:41 several extracts from Sir Win. Erskine's et idsu;re at the
Ar, %hien proved it was him individo.d opinion, that in the
near 3
JUO men acre plainly deducted fur artificers surd
Iniats.
Par
w Papers were then ordered to be laid before the
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ADJOURNEI) DEBATE ON THE EXPLDITION
TO Til E. SCHELDT. ,
arxeral T
.1 RLEfON eiimineoced by observing, he felt
wde cutout:ohm m nut bating Interrupted the dreams of tile
IL.s. rt._
omeral woo spoke lawn oight, hut patiently followed
..a
5,,,,,a through all his Mug- miry campaigns, and all his horrors
na, . ..a
"u battery. the lion. Gentleman gave an claim-
tile ibterimia. in of the operations of 40,000 men between the
''"h alai the Weser; said informed the Douse the contest
.211•14 ed betweeo Austria nod France, the melancholy and
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,•hum event of which wits foretold by many here. Ile
)7 Pas, wil to Spain, anal took a view of Camila and our Al-
.l Kit there on Ilatteriog prospect presents itself. The
r7Llpstat eimeerned a project which he had the tumour of
'lag to the Hose an the lbw sky of fly- Session, which,
toted by Ministers. would have tarn productive of the
11 haPPY consequences; lic alluded to hit advice of sending
400 sirs eithe
swr; I r troni this country. or from the troops ia
swum 9 Sicily; but in this the .11ouourtible Gentleman
at 4rn't arum, The Scheldt, nothing hut the Scheidt, was
/1$ ie" "r h's Wilesty's Ministers. The douid of loyasion
the mouse alleged. The Honourable Gentleman üb-
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convinced that the statement could nut be correct. linked
the Secretary for Ireland (Mr. W. Pule) had given pretty
good proof of what the expeuce of ordnance stores would
be. The Gallant General then took a review of the cap 'vices
attending several other departments in the Expedition, from
which he contended that the iggregate expellee must have
greatly exceeded the return tau on the table. With this en-
tailed expeare upon the country, and the loss of upwards of
70.)41 brave soldiers, who had cost the country, at a
moderate computation,little short of forty pnuuds per man,
would it he endured that the Ministers who had thus unad-
vised and heedlessly conducted themselves should go unpu-
nished? From a moderate calculation, he conceived that
instead of 800,0001. as stated by the Noble Lord, tile ex-
pewee would fall not much short of 3,000,00:il. which sum
tho country must pay for an imisucreaful attempt to obtain
possession of the sect in the Scheldt. The Hun. General
having commented at some length on the items, and shewn
the material diWereace in the estimates as compared with the
actual expenditure, contended, that the calamity which had
been generally felt nod deplored, could only have arisen in
consequence of the inefficient counsels of his Majesty's present
mid late servants, and with this opinion he should find him-
self compelled to vote against the amendment proposed by
the Hon. General me a former night.
Mr. ROSE was not prepared to follow the. Gallant Gene-
nil through his speech, because he was not qualified fully to
discuss military matters. The Hon. General had, however,
chosen to censure the Commanders in the Expedition, both by
sea and inni—that, the Right Hon. Gentleman conceived
was a fruitless course to pursue, fur the Resolution was al-
ready in the hands if the Speaker which conveyed un ap-
proval of their contbict. Indeed, there seemed to he no dif-
fereuce of opinion no that head. Tar Hon. Gentleman had
not rested satisfiei with passing his censure mom the Military
Commanders, hut had found fault with Ministers for the ge-
neral policy of the Expedition. He had contended that
the force which had been mat to the Scheldt should have, been
directed to snake an effort in support of the coin cause in
the North of Germany. On military grounds lie could not
answer the Honourable General, but this hr did know, that
the Expedition to the Scheldt had this practical lament, that
it served to divert the attention of a most powerful part of the
enemy's force, and to draw them Mr from the Baas of the
Danube. This had been of high service to Austria during
the armistice. The Right Hoe. Gentleman was prepared to
contend that if Flushing had been the only object it wits the
duty of Ministers to endeavour to obtain it. In order to
show that he did nut depend merely on his own opinion, he
should state the authority of a great Officer--an Officer
whose lies the country will long deplore—lie ineaut the gal-
last Nelson.' When Lord Nelson was nppoiuted to go to
Boulogne, he had directed his (Mr. Ramat) attention to the
importance of having Flushing in our possessiou. The
of that gallant officer was, that the fortress might have
been taken in four or five days, with a force of Uve thousand
mesh, and the assistance of a few ; be had expressed
wisp to be employed on that service it her Majesty's Ministers
itionzlit proper. Thus it appeared to lain (Mr. 11,.) that the
retention of Flushing was a point of very high importance.
Such had been Lord Nelsons oplainu. Captain Owen, a
vrry able and intelligent officer, wasof a similar iipioion ; he
considered the occupation of it as highly important, eve:
chilly to regard to the invasion of this country. What was
the ovissiott of another gallant officer, Sir Richard Strachan ?
lie also had Aated that twenty ships of the line might lie art
all lintesand in ail 'weather' secure and ready for sea is the
isasio of Flushing. The Right Houtturahle Gent.eutan con-
tendel, therefore, that the retention of Flushing was of more
importance than the destructive ilf the Peet; for Gentlemen
must he aware, that the mese destruction of the shipping in
the siver 'vomit nett destroy the forest, nod that consequently
miless we had the place, the damage aniot be repaired. if
we ware in possession of the river, and of the town, which
stay *pommeled "the key-stone of the Scheldt." and if the
=film of the river could have been °tattooed by sinking
, or by any other meats, he shoild have thought too,
-emporia on well eosployed.—lt had Ikea the opinitia of Sir
Rititarl Stracium way such a plan was practicable. Was it
then, lie atuulJ ask, sorprisiug that Ministry should have ea.,
tertained a similar opin ttttt ? It had been urged, tis a ground
of erasure, that the Expedition was the Mew ever tilted out
this country i but he • was prepare* to contend, that
tisaillmt and magnitude, it wits nut equal to flimsy that had
kA the shores, if it WAS taken into that the
state or the nasal force was greater than on former occasion.
a wheu expeditious were tent out. The Rtgat !Loa. Giaillous.;

by ,
John Mordaunt, and by the parallel which he
endeavoured to draw between that Expedition and
his own ; nor was that surprise lessened in hear.
ing it reverted to by a Right Hon. Guildsmen op-
posite me this night. Upon tire geographical re-
semblance drawn by the Noble Lord .between
Rochefort and Antwoep, I shall not attempt to
controvert, his opinion. The Noble Lord will,
however, I trust, pardon me if I say, that' the
likeness did not strike me quite so forcibly as
it seems to have impressed itself upon him.—
If, however, I do not trace the geographical re.
semblance, still less do I trace any resemblance
at all between the grounds that warranted the two
Expeditions, the precaution that planned 'them, or
the events that resulted from them. I first wish
to call the Noble Lord's recollection to thegrounds
on which the Expedition to Rochefort, in 1797,
were planed. I shall beg the indulgence of the
House, if I quote an extract from a Narrative
published by Lord Chatham's authority. [Here
the Noble Lord quoted an opinion upon the very
defenceless condition of Rochefort, reported by
Captain Clarke, an Engineer Officer employed by
Government, to Sir John Ligonier, then Coin.
wander in Chief.] The one, Sir, was under.
taken on the intelligence of an Officer just
arrived .from the spot, and is suggested by
Um:Commander in Chief to the Minister. Time
other is adopted by the Minister without any pre-
vious official communication with the Commander
in Chief, and on the authority of Oißcers who
had been at Antwerp sixteen years ago. The one
place is reported as remarkably weak, the other
Ito much the contrary, that the enterprise is given
in opinion, by one of the Officers consulted by
Ministry previous to the sailing of the Expect.
don, as likely to be attended with great risk to
the Naval and Military force.--The Noble
Lord then read another Extract, in which Capt.
Clarke and Joseph Titrry, a Frencti Pilot, are
examined before the Cabinet, -touching the prat.
ticability of an attempt upon Rochefort.—
Here, said the Noble Lord, we have an examina.
lion before Lord Anson, First Lord of the Ad-
miralty, Sir E.twaril Hawke, commander of the
naval part of the armament, Sir Jiiliti Mordautit,"
commanding the land forces, Major- General
Conway, second in command, Mr. Pitt, Secre.
tary of State, General Ligonier, Commander
in Chief, Admiral Knowles, second in the na-
val command, and Captain Clarke, /he Offi-
cer on /whose intelligence the Expedition was
planned. Their next consideration was to ex-
amine evidence no the internal strength of the
'land, force then actually in France, and where
stationed. After a tong detail, the evidence
:proceeds, 66 that, according to this calculation,
.there most be 16,000 regular troops employed,
(meaning said the Noble Lord, French troops
sent of Fiance), anal no more than 40,000 men re-
main for all'the garrisons Iron sedan to the frun.
dun of So curd also fur those of

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men raised almost to enthusiasm by w hat tiwy S4')Ar
or fancied they saw of a noble spirit of resis!.tocc
bursting forth on the Continent, us well as in t;:e
Peninsula, did Ministers embark a finve df iNar
40,000 men (or an Expedition to the Scheldt. As a
diversion, and-a powerful one, on the behalf of
Austria, does this Expedition leave ours shores;
and when was that diversion in favour of
Austria undertaken I The news of thd last bat.
tie, decisive of the fate of Austria —the news of this'
battle of Wagram having arrived, it toas then, and
not till then, this Expedition sailed! And, where

shad
that diversion &reeled ? • Not where Attsfri
*as
ad desired a diversion to be made, namely, in the
North of Germany, but where she never wished it •
to be made, in the Island of Walelieren•-le
place from whence it was impossible any co.
operition with or diversion in favour of ..erns
could he- expected, from the impossibility of.'
converting it into a base' point fur the ope. •
ration of any large envy on the Continent,
Who would have to pass the whole line of fortifiAll
towns between IValcherenend the Main. In what
then are the effects of this co-oper-ation and diver-
sion to be traced ? In the Treaty of •Ztlailn ; int
the flight of the Duke of Bronswick ; and, in
• the signing of a disgraceful peace between Austria
and France. And see now the of of your di-
version : after e disgraceful peace, the Emperor
of Amnia sacrificing his daughter as.--a peace-of.
feriug to the safety •of her country, and entrusting
to pia brave brother the disgesting charge of
leading. her to a otnaeriage altar, still stained and
reeking with the blood of these thousands who
had fallen et Aspern, and at %Vagrant, in Orals
against the man whom he now is obliged to call
his sott.in-law. pear, hear n These, Sir, are the
effects of your diversion ; these are the effects of
pier co-operation. On the 29th A ngust, Cor'cl Chat.
ham's letter front Satlit stares, that all further ope.
rations on the part of the army arc at an end,'that
3000 men are lick in hospital, w Inch, deducted trim
about 35,000,allowing for SOor 90 killed at the siege
of Flushing, leaves you as near as possible, 32,000
disposable men. Was there theta tip part of the
World, where a force of 3,000 men could he em-
plOyed to better advantage than 'by being left to
the inactivity and sickness of Walcheren ? Was
it impossible, with a sufficient number of trans.
ports, which were ready to receive your troop. to ,
make any attempt on some one of the seaports of
France itself, when Bonaparte had withdrawn
almost all his troops from home, whegarntou Ant_
troops had
been marched even from. Nils, to
weep, and with his armies employed on the Pe.
niusula, and the North of Germany ? Was it
`impossible to have made a deicer t, in-
*twice, on Rochefort, Where yon knew thut se_
yen sail of the line were lyin4, a buss crews
had Set beenitentlt marchederV asiv
a)ot.ar-ti l
attack to .
svithl°32",ini;
'practicable, oven on Brest ? Coned you not have
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PARLI 4 M E N 7. served, there were three Plosic wan, and Cantle/tea the then took a review of the various expeditions for the lad sillon and Guienne-..then reckon abotit 20,060
House to I.ewnte of a fourth, and therefore it should be care- eighty years, several of which had been inure poswerful, end lacedp from st: Natter to' Berg, and there is all
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ful ant to lavish the resources of the coutary in Wild anti Im- had performed less than the one now wider di satin. He
.01IDS, Maims 29. practicable projects. such as the late Expedition was. The alluded `
particularly to that of 1757, which retttroel to port the reason to believe that there can be no motet
-,,-.- Hon. General said, that the operation in the Scheldt were after haying effected no more than the destructing of the ba. than 10000 Mel stationed from St. Val lee to
airs heard on the Appeal respect- for the purpose of making a diversion ih favour of Austria; sin at CherbOurg, and brought away a few brass guns. • Whet ,
ry Peerage. A further lwaring be denied it cans go, for he was convinced his Majesty's Mi- had beea effetted, he might ask of the Gentwawa oppoaite, . Bourdeaux."...So much for the precaution butler
sisters were well acquainted. with the posture of affairs; lo the Dardaoeites Expedition t Having made several ob- which the Erpeditiun was Undertaken !--- [ilea",
t Rills were brought up from the they knew that the armistice between France and Austria servation, and contrasted the oaten of those Expeditions hear !]..-Nor shall we I think, Sir find in the
er of which was the Irish ditgar was,signed ; end therefore, from the conviction of Napo- with the present, be concluded with opposing the Noble • 1 9
re rend a first time. ' leuu s ,ever'concluding a negociation whiten the destnac- Lard's Reledulkno. instructions given under the Sign Alumni' to Sir
!re forwarded in their respective firm of a nation, they must have known that Austria was al- Lord FRANCIS OSBORNEcovnidered that the question .john Mordaudi, any strong resemblance to tho
ready inbdued. The Honourable Member spoke at leateth for thedecisioe of the House WiUt not whether Ministers were poliey that guided our late Expedition.-:-" In •'!-
;'N IN SPAIN. with regard to the opinions of. Officers of scientific blew- to blame, or whether the Vornffianders of the Expedition 44
~ and said that he held in his ledge. on the
.practicahility of this measure; they wen in. were to blame for the failure whirlthad ensued, but whether case,. by the blessing of Gun upon our emit
sictat been laid before their Lord- cautious in doing so. theoretically without any personal in- the country had suaered in • . That the fountry 4g yell Alin itilite yourself muter of any plate 11
iat the late campaign in Spain. speetion; in the common recurrences of life, he duel, it is had uttered waiver, evideat ra• fore hsainue oie duly et ea the coast of Fra"r. "r will aid ocasare - • ~
moved for, some of which hod customary to coos:nab) a friend the management of the af- of Piselleenest re file who bad beta t
ships. and others were daily ex- fair, to whose diocretiou every thing in colifided.imethesteg- mental pradactog those so The • iii".' e 4 ils_t_flat 1., allauSitt. •' - . - srirtte . 4.. ..-'-‘4.....*.7.''".•
rioter's. In looking over those legit evinced in the present instance es unparalleled he neilitare semps . ..effigv-ClSir ode. 'Wo arie'lli;:ilte. infetettico • . i'% • - • t
vered, he had discovered a fresh annals. The•aliopoirsibloGicationastisaolkomadtpletikaga seem *Non s ai .
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- d been eltit in the p led .40750,04, joitig,..4ol4ol.spy Adair/tow ;it ape .
! tweet% or doe PlaPdArlaSlS- *woes "41 the'evros'oe* of Sir Maisel ,avid e,, imiea at the tions there. should have Ae nook
len. They have now published Bar of the [bone tbe thought theattal pr his • fit- • niaters, and Lave Waked *Won; . y
.pears to ix' thli-.Vessl Chatham-Ante ea- Ere , - - -.• '
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almost wMifte unpreredeeted) thin. was transmitted to Mason, so admiesbfe as correct Ministers, that at best success wasp ' tons. Skew. pedision to Rochefort in 1707' 'Lord Castle+ . • I
npr ~,,, ise the chanictere. hut I. I were Ms ideas of the fortress and the -terssintry. The year fore, could induce them to send so large'imaspeditlagapins s
officially or confidentially am- I 1746 had been adverted to, when leak, was meets is dve such a serviose. he ens rit a nosy to guAs, it was the • reaih plans oae to Antwerp es 1809, Lord
believed. was the tint instance 1 11::37,/ Ili:. Hon. General did not oi practice of fotly,*and the result of incapacity. The Noble,, Vtattattlith,Expeditioni. fails) so, dues' Lott{
every posslibilitlyt of reil:forcde then
e, in Which persons cif the dr- b hte army, nadLord was of opinion, that all the blame which a hed was aid ereag st no Par iameutary iutairy ititriti..
dso been promised. Ile precluded. Antwerp he bad meatioded too, forrning &tette imputable to Ministers. Much,cause for complaint and for
rehab one, se much sr that he ! time the French. were masters of the country, and in pos- woe's regret otcurred, in cooseqUence of the loss ofso amity toted; on the one Parliament thinks At to tuatie
motion which he should soffintit I session of Bergen-op-Zoom. which. in (1W pIOWSIt instence, of our brave ince. It appeared that when the Expedition tote an'inquiry ; on the other ho measures of cries ,
w, rearm ling the propriety of every day added strength and force to the u, When sailed, the season of unhealthiness had arrived at Flushing, se%natioo are entered agiiitist.tist Nlinistere of that ' 1.
nom and delivery of those papers the Has. General bad concluded his con nem of• the and it was also manifest, from the evidence of the Surgeoa- -"'
r of their content, were better places, he proceeded to a detail of the operations. Accord- General to the Force,, that he had not been consulted as to dor ...first,. because - Sir ti. •Mordaunt, had betel
of the Noble Lord ( Wellesisy) tag so theKodemeol, 42,000 men proceeded to Antwerp; but, tbe aware of the fewer which affected our army until after tried esti acquitted by a Court.Martiar, and 4F.. " ••• parte ularty, but not exclusively` with respect to this, he did not understood what was meant the sailing of the Expedition. Upon a full attention to the
ca_tise the character, enterprise, and exertioni Of • •
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enter into any details, wising;, by saying part of the town was in -our possession; . eat this,
evidence, he was obliged to vote for the original Resolu-
f the Noble Secretary opposite operation he considered a visionary erns, WA sen-scheme, tioos. Sir Edward Hawkey put him beyond thteredits Of
sore, and what papers were in- undertaken without.. paibility of being practicable. The Lord• G. GRENVILLE-In rising, Sir, to censure; •Tily, because Ministers having tire. * . army arrived at Walcheren on the 49th Jody ;at 'was de- . 9 • . .
IL bad only to observe, that the barked, but by an unaccountable delay, the *first parallel explain to this House the gronods which have its. stilted and abided by (be opinions 'of thole Wisoka
ale B iron bud been divided into wag not opened till the ith of August. Every thing Was tluenced the Vote I shall fed it my duty to give at names were quoted, and who. were acquitted by
d to the Diphimatic, and those driven into Flushing, which this great army of 4Z1,001) men •
the close of this debate, I shalrreqeest its indel- their country, no crimination could attach to
nary Department. He believed dirigot possess for nineteen days. Would Gentletnenconspare 1
e already before the flou.e, as what had been done with what was intended. and will it not I gence, if I shortly cater into the consideration of Ministers. After Ike ill.concerted gxpeditiovi . •
eof forwardness. The rennin- •be thought that the mode of operation was most slow and 1 whit has ec„n principally stvggested to me by the against Antwerp had been •abandoued. by'. Laid .• 1
Joon he ready ; hut in file. ate slumbering, at a time when every movement ivas,important. I .
e should likewise decline goin;g The garrison of Flushing coosisted of 50aOrnen. If et, ye iniasubject .I
-* discussion.. After the very long,
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tint er its Chatham, we are to cousider the deckolition Air.
I, while he expressed a wish at been landed and noarched directly in a cola-un there, the sus- 1 ond die very able dicciicsiott, which we have al,- the dockyards and arsenals- of Flusbing •ae .the •
clines or witeproduetion of the plies could have been cut off, and the inundation prevente ; ready heard en the policy that planned, and .the ultimate and determinate end of the itiferprize. it •• • .- t 1
I by monm, bat by an and r- besides, the etemy might have been induced to !tactual' cow. 1 . .
seers should bed ••livered mail toat in the field, and no opportunity might begivea of uklag , eetttlUCt Oat guided, .oar late unfortubate Eape- shall not now, Sir, inquire whether the reductiotl . ..,,
I the Noble Saran had given nie (*town by a cone. dc-maim. The flea. Geueral eliserved, I ilitlun to the Scheldt, I should indeed feel that lof Antwerp, as an object, was worthy of th•• ' •
man lime he should take ucca- thftt Gentlemen had laid much stress upon the hopes of sue-
is Noble Friend (the Alaiquis ens which were expected inteossequence of the proposed
was trespassing on the patience of this House, if means employed for its attainment. I • shall is . ; .
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plan for bomb tilling the fu ens of Antwerp. With that I had the vitality to conceive that by entering into ask whether it was politic, wise, or justifiable, a •
• ireseed his .acquiescence in the military knowledge Which he ptesessed, he was fully justi- a detailed( review of either, I could 'throw any a period when blood or treasure arc iterhapt (tux • 1
ei it was ordered that the House lied in hazarding the opiniou that the hopes of success could
-Adjourned, never have been realized. Ile had seen in the American further light on a subject already so folly and so dear to us than they have ever been since we heed s 'ii
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......-- War failures in besiegi,i4 places which completely bore him generally canvassed. Upon lt. subject so impor- been a nation, at a time when Englatid shealit , .
out. In the attack upon York Town, Inteekit three thou-
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MNIONS, MARCH 29. sand kee tundred meet were en,,,ageol, aottl IA which it was , ,
Cant ate/ so widely extended as that under our controtol ►with a parsionuniints and almost a klgi,„ I
coutidenhy expected success would :mead their la, the sleeneiderations coutsectod with other feelings, gardly hand the expenditure of, every shilling of •
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kin a Bill for laying certain du- contrary was the reoili, for the town did not fall in Conte- namel_,
y its being a consideration that implied, or her revenue-I shall nut ask whether at such alt • ,
from the garrison being in
lemmas, and for the reguiatism queues of the. attack,
.iirt solely
it bad .4 li,„1 the • riot, the strongest censure on his Majesty's time, it was politic, wise, (1r justifiable) to wapiti ,
$ read a first time, and orderer! wont of provolone. gainMU . _ gareasson
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of Copenhagen woald have surrendered on beau; bombarded for foreign service the most .expensive armankrut •
Monday.
ai feu in: , present Ministers, that any Administration
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Deal ht, motion which stood for Cope:A:Ken, however: Its had
handshet •
" ed* - tally k can be capable 6f, this Houle will, I trust, we have for years been burtheinel with the equip.i.
vested before it fell sow the of the English.ii
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tentption &Officers ion the Army.
respect to the investment of Antwerp, that was a ',cocooning du nit
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fax to Tresday.
a ' ws, ll which could not be accolished, to the whisk of the en- small seeekagrassment to state the grotto& that will lased, the Wreck of our late unfortunate Spanilt
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hou'iteroseaege, ;14,..,,,wed 4,nifinnt„nAinteltiorefr,csa , device had 'sheen. The able Lord, Is the course of -bia
West. 1. was, Lcuusa,- oast .4 -lieehe eve- msenwsigw, S. • an' IWrieet -tit . least 'es 'dal litre. a. • .i • _ 1
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-Ovawad la Me nos the Table. 'Web ••13 a farlesll-0106k94 surstotastsfsefre,e del Cwt 1.7-.
0,4 the limo, sh,,„bi take into Expedition did bot amotint to more
.t an kko.lo However prised in the course of the first night of the de- if not so hazardous. %Veil every ;Wyatt tagsi
the Lords for the atteniaoce of ,
much the Noble Lord might va!mt, hunself upon: the economy
et. It was an bate to heat a Noble Lord on the other side which the state of public affairs and of publics-
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recur so frequently and so fondly to an allusion tl) confidence, which the means in their howls Mid,
lialiott Prohibition Bill.-The fact perfectly ridiculous. Let Gentlemen but eo a
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the single ex pen..e of transports fur the conveyance of troops, the expedition to Rochefort in the year 1757, plan- the season of the year had put •iii thee. power, . .1
r his attendance accordingly.
I anfeioneed their Lordsbips' as. 1 and then in addit' look at the ordnance department, to be reed byLo!'d Chatham, and conducted by Sir with the spirits and enterprise of their coutti rya
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a ..a.l ......:.I ...;..1. 14.11. I convinced that tee statement could not be correct. indeed