The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-12-02 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT:
HOUSE OF LORDS. Dec. I.
The Earl of Stamford aml Wartiogtoo took tie Mae aid Isla
tem.
A Penes from the Tremor/ /vomited several Papers mhos
tiro is the Remoter which bed hese ordered sot the make of
the Earl of Laidefflote..—Mbefrool.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Sir Pl. PAR M RLL and foe • Return of all saws of regal
paid to be ShrrilL. be Uador4Orrili, for writs or precepts
roe the eiKli..l Newberg to mon r Parliontetta. for Crow
deem/ loreogion wlsebrok fbe three t also fee
ea Anoint of aB sone poid by Okolleletee te the Clerk of tint
Crows far the mum perloa.-04ered.
Mr. BROODER moved M a Return if °wonted Porleben
within the Bibs of Mortllloy 8 sod the somber ofp.a re ebil•
leen, ender the age if IC to each poritb.-0
Cal DAVIES-wowed for a Return of eke Manes of *WA*
terra person who betrings le the public (Trip Drparttopii
the Army in Great Whole awl Deleted. aad reteilied railme
emolument', or allownores is. .equal of Sispernosuotion I
member *ilk the omega of locb 'Mammon, she
emirs for they baye beep irrobbl, *it
diorama SA 'Web tbee war* Macke& Abs. 111T16.11
Sta nonerr of Revolts AMA Ate die Lose *tyke of Gnat ,1
Whale and Ireland, from the eh of October, 18111, to as
2516 of 0 .tober, 1619.—Ordered.
CALL OF TOR HOUSE.

Mr. intention to
persiatis the motion fors Call of the House, of which
be bad last night given notice. While he was on his
legs, perhaps he would be permitted to state his ree.
we for abandoning the notice. It was, Wauseon
looking at the attendance of Members, be foetid that
net less than 570 or 580 bad appeared is their plias
is that house—a circumstance *hick he Weight
ought to be made known to ti-• coootry.—(Lfeier !)
As the attendance had been so very neaseroes, mod as
it we td have Wets highly inconvenient t• summon
possess from the heart of the empire—from heisted,
for instance, who still could not be in time fir the
epproachiog diecossiee be did not doses it emissary
to propose a call of lie House. His agilely was,
looltiog to the immease importance of the woollies,
that the Reese of Commons should be fully attended
—that every man, whether he took the side which
he (Mr. Benoist) supported, or was opposed to bins
la sentiment, should appear on this occasies, is or.
der that the public might sae that, as a body, they
bad deliberated on these ensures.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that feeling is common milk the ilimseerable
Gendentsn the high importance of the speedos, and
being desire's that it should have the fullest possible
consideration, in going through the Mem, it was not
his intention to have oppoosed the mottos, if the
Hen. Gentleman bad brought it forward. Ifs was,
however, eatreasly glad, that, under the circus,.
stances of so assesoall7 numeroes an attestator', it

was sot necessary. lit;deed, they cook! not hope ior
asy material addition to that attendance if the mall
were enforced, while it would create considerable ire.

coevenience to iedivirlsels. lle was 000 of therm
who thought that the Parlismentary dirty of a Mem-
ber et that (fosse eeght to be considered paramemat
to all other duties; bet, is the present instance, he
thought no point of practical good could be obtained
by enforcing a cell of the floss. —( near !)
COMMITTKE OF SUPPLY.

Th. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day for the floors resolvieg
itretf into a Committee of Supply. On the qeettion
" That the Speaker do now leave the Chair."
Mr. BROUGHAM complained of the haste with
which Ministers were bringing for ward their new
mravereq.

The CIIA NCELLOR, el the EX II EQUER seid, I
the House was•new g • g Merely to vote the proper
timber of seamen for the year. The wavers which
the Learned Gentlemen alluded to, relative to stamps,
geoid not be proposed in a Committee of Sepply.
Mr. IsItOUGIIAM ende►stood that the Stamp
Acts would now be hrneght under ronsiilerotith.
I The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIF.QUER—

lot et the present moment.
Mr. BROUGHAM wished to know whether the
object wnold be introdoeed 'hat evening.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER am.

reted ie the etirostive.

Mr. BROUGHAM said, he could not discharge
his ditty OD the present ocra.ion, without opposing
the motion for going into the Committee. His rosette
less founded on the constilational and Parliamentary
mode of stating the grimeces of the subject *hes a
supply was called for ; and, as he considered this a
portion of supply, strictly so called, he felt, that in
opposini tho Speaker's leaving the chair, he net-
' deed that constitatiotiel right, which, in all times
heretofore, had been acted on. The grievance of
wl.kh he complained, sad his reason for opposing
the motion, erase from the ettraordintry sod unpre.
c talented ;sate with which his Majesty's Ministers
seemed to harry through Parliament thew measures
which bad heart detailed to Ike Hoese.—[//ear,
keer!)—lf they were mesterei of a temporary or
local nature, the use wield be very differeet.—
I Mir, hear!)—But, as it was admitted that a great
and permanent change was about to be made in the
Ceastitation of the motley, be wield take Ike H.
betty of stating what be had stated yesterday, thnogh
it had an effect on the Noble Lord opposite—that it
was a proceeding in the highest dive, indecent to
urge measures of this description through the House
with such unprecedented celerity.—( Hear, Arar!)—

They were now, after thirty.sia hours' notice, It
or which were consigned la a debate on another im-
portant question, expected to he prepared to giro an
opinion on these wet . Vey were to be called
on to-morrow night to discuss the principle of the
whole system—for the mete principle on which the
first Bill was (needed was not this only mailer to
which the attention of the !hose would be directed
on that occasion. It would necessarily brine on a
discossino of the whole system by which the I.lw of
Wind, with respect to lee liberty of th. soh•
jest, was to be changed for erer.—(//nor!)-1,
was not only indecent to that noose, lout highly in.
decorous and unjust to the penple of this country, to
ruled in such a Banner ;_fer if they Irmo abort to

asid Same► died ost the &Vigil! "

chess, those laws which were hitherto the protectien
of the people, and to change them, set for a certain
tlesei with the hope that they would be restored when
the wilergeocy hod passed away, whets no chasm was
L hellion of a restmation of their rights by a repeal
1.61 91.' sew laws; thee, kg ceolesded, the people were
*Mid to such a delay as would glee these an op.
pettish', at least, Of cessidering the subject ; of
leak* their Hite kwown is that Home; of cussing
ibs* opieleasi to be felt there ; and of comeisading
their sististeats sad mimesis to be urged within
tide walls by their Rapressatatives The Noble
Letdpenisted is declaring, that the emend reading
'of seal of those 131111 shoe id woe on loAsetrow ; that
tree before ems the whole of the Ream mold be is
'pomades of its mania, by readies it ; sod when
It was physically impossible for asy part of the coos-
t , bet the asetropelis aloe., to balm shit the spe-
eders of the:itil was. This was set tie claim
erejsilog ado is 1715. A .get.
. , blelay if three links, was thew obits,
the pressers of the emergescy Was Ise Mal se IS was
at present. He had sew stated his reason for pro.
testis( against this hasty mode of legislating ; sod is
doing so he had alma a regular constitatiosal worse,
by Italieg his objectless shoo a qaesdea of supply
was raised. If Gentles., were so tired of the free

Candlelit's of Eagles's!, that they wished it set to '
be sespeeded, bet to be overthrows, without delay, '
then be would say, with his Hee. Fried (Mr. ilea
my), that they wield hove to discharge a very dis-
agreeable duty to tbeesselvee, sod a most unspeakable I
duty to the cowry, le attending from day to day,
and endaareering to real the Use.. to a sense of
what wallies to the people ; whew, is spite of their
earn, they fogad the Hesse reedy, after two days'
delay, to pen laws that were urged with such le.
decent despateb.—(liar!) .
The metion was thee pet sal spud to; seed the
Been resolved heed Into the Gemmiltea
Sir G. WARRENDER prefaced the Repletion
fora Vote of Seams., by observieg, that an N-
ereus bad boss made in the Royal Marines of 2,000
men which would allow of the whole duty of the
dock-yards being deem by that corps. This lacrosse
would make the member of marines must to 8,000.
By being dies employed is doles the duty of the
deck-yarn, they would be ready is soy sudden
emergetsey that might reader a usual annameet saga
vary. The Hoe. Bart. thee mined that it was the
*sloe of the Committee that 23,000 mew should be
employed In the as service from the Ist Jan. 1820,
le the Ist of Jan. 1821 ; iodudieg 3,000 undoes.
Sir J. YORKE, complained of the state is which
tbeg eardsbips et the various pats were left. At the
Me shit of a Royal Doke to owe of these pests, all
tie easel Woodman that could be mustered was
few joUy-bosts, with the Captains of the vessels to
*Mob they Waved steering them. lie knew tbet
the defective state of the alesplements of the guard.
ships was in some measure aseriboble to the recent
massing of the two Rae of battle ships which had
bees seat round Cape lions ; bet that was set a sol-
idest reason. It would also be said, that a umber
of
the seamen were employed is the pruning ser.
vice, seder the communed of the Right numerable
the Chancellor of the Ezeltequer—(e lestgh),—bet
he was sere thatiwhea thou tames returned, loaded
with gin kegs instead of liege of gee-Powder easel
oleos wools! much rather have sew mew,
Mr. J. P. GRANT thought it highly proper to
employ Nada,s so do she duty of the Deck-yards.
Bet it he eederstood the nature of the Hoe. Baronet's
propaition, it was that 1000 should he added to th
▪ In which cue 2000 of the vegeta, army
would be released from the duty of, the ants. This
ought to he borne is Wed whenever the atomise of
the Home should he celled to the ausideratiou of
the military establishment. If he was wrong le his
eaderstandieg of the subject the Dee. Russet would
est his Itshr.
Sr B. MARTIN begged leant to state, that the
duty of the doek.yanle was formerly done by ma.
flea. It was highly desirable that it should be se.
The present propositivo, therefore, was merely to
revert to the ancient practice.

Sir G. WARRENDER, in reference to what bad
klieg fro■ his Ilan. Friend ',speeds' the deficient
state of the crews of the giard.ships, observed, that a
redaction its their complements had taken place last year,
from teisiderstions °forages,. He denied, bow.
ever, that they were in such a state es that described
by his Honourable Friend, in proof of which vt as the
fact, that on fitting eat the greenest for Smells Awe:
rice, the Septa was in the Sound in four days, with
all he► guns and stores, and wanting only her cote.
pigment. The great advantage of employing the
marines to the duty of Ike dockyards was, that ea
any emergency they might be sent on beard ships
of war, and their place supplied by troops of the
line.

ear. TIERNEY was always glad to wan increase
of the onsrines, conceiving them to be a most valuable
doseription of force. Hat the goestion asked by Ms
How. Friend (Mr..l. P. Grant) bad sot bees ea-
soared. If tile mazinos did the whole of•the day of
the ilork-yards, 4000 regale, troops mast socessarily
be teliavad from that duty ; and why was not a re-
daction made of the military establishment to that es.

tent ? Unless that were done, tiers eas '•ideally a
premical sucrose' of military force to the mama of
2000 m.o.
Sir G. WARRENDER esi Ward, bat was is.
sodible.

Mr. CROK ER observed, lint in point of NI,
only IWO of the molar army wnold be relieved from
doing Ilia duty of the dent-yards.
The Resolution was 'Own @rood to, as were RP •
Wines for granting bis Majesty the Poo 0'
650,3351. for wars for il • said 23,000 son ; and
the Sea of G 20.9501. for victualling lAya. Ose the
limetion for granting the sum of 012,9541. for rho
wear and tear of the ships, It appearing that there
11.5 ea istresft girl, the Estimate of list year of

a ghillies a ease per mood, a short conversation
arose.
Sir M. BYAM wished to know (or what purple
that increase was proposed?
Sir G. WARREN ER professed himself enable
to elate at once she precise (recoils of It.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCREQUXIC
'aid, that the seal voted last year was fused inset.
Seised • sad that it was desirable set to int-reale the
Naty Deis.
. Mr. BARING and Sir it. W. RIDLF.Y
for esplawatitow. Were then any arrears I
Thu CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
dotted that there were any arrears; bet the fllllll2lll.
der of the Bight 800. Giantess's esplaustists *as
basedible.
Th.►. Ifesoleilee wet then agreed In; as weaslio a
Biseletlow for greedy/ the Isnot 104,6501. for the
Ordinate See gervice.
The Meese WNW imitate*, the Roped was omitted
le be ...iced 0-

_ to.monow.
THE NEW tIEMOURF.S.
The Stamp Act (53 Gee. 111. c. les) laving been
referred to the corititratioa of • Committee, tie
Hoer resolved into a Committee them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that in the present stage of the proceediags, be should
sot triable the Coandiree with say ober Wires or
esplaostior, as those had better be swerved, what
the Bill to be Needed so the Reeoletion which he was
about to mine, shoold be brought in, sod when its
prods* character and bearings might be erre dls.
deeded', ascertained. At present is week) con-
test himself with stating, that ewe of its priocipal
Ajar weela be to provost the numerous evi-
-1 Roes of the Stamp Delia, as affecting publicatious,
which We 'stayers taken place. The Right Ho.
arrable Ominous thee moved s Resoldir to
the Mowing effect, in.--Tbiat ell Pamphlets,
or
tiewavapefs, or Pablicatioes es called, or
Ropers contsisung sews, OCCIffeeCIPS. or remarks em
any of the loathed's. of Church sad State, not Sc.
tooling two sheets, sold, or espoeed to sale, for a
price lees than 6J., reclusive of the proposed duty,
arid be deemed and idols to be Newspapers, is
the Masks of the several Stamp Acts respecUng
powspepers, end should honked to the same Stamp
aity. . .
Mr. BROUGHAM observed, that in postponing
.ny obsetvatious on the reposed Bill, until its la-
'Werth), into the Here, he, of coarse, mast sot
be sodersteed as pledging Mewl( to @quince is its
previsions. Reserving all remark therefore, ea that
subject to a litter opportunity. M wished to say a few
~,,,d, on what lb. Right Honeerible Gentians
Shot evening, and a Noble Lord en a former occasion,
bad Ironed', stated. lie by we moans imputed to
them any knead*. of soak's' any enjoin anuatloo,,
bet be roar imagined try bad not adverted with
suilicirt emotion to the words of the 'intim
Stamp Acts. After brim reprobated, as I. (Mr.
Brougham) had done In that Howse, the cousitet and
dodder of the peruses who, for the last three years,
had leettaated the country with the most mischievous
publications, ha should set be suspected of a toe fa.
vourable loosing towards those persons. Bat it was
his opinion, that nobody should be charged mere
heavily than be deserved to be. BlupSemy said
tresses were impotatiem beryl enough.—
Fraud seed not be added. Bat the Noble Lord
speaking of those persons the other eight,
charged them not only with blasphemy and
tresses, bet with having acted fraudulently; and the
Right Hon. the Chancellor of the &chewier had just
said, that the, acted evasively. He would give eves
that being whom us Hen. Member bad the other
evening spoken of royally, his due. It was but jai.
lice to the penises is questioa, to say, 'bat they had
sot acted fraudulently or reglad,. The words GC
tie schedule of the Stamp Act were—" Any News.
paper. or paper rowelling public news, intelligence,
or octerreres. ' It was Oldest, therefore, that per.
seas publishing a pamphlet, or a sheet and a half, tit
rotainiog " plastic news, intelligence, or occorrea.
eel," bet only a commentary oe public non, intent.
pace, or dicerntaces, did sot come *it'd• she mean-
leg of the Act. Seth proms wen not guilty of any
amble. Thiy merely railed themselves of the loop-
hole which it was Mai tinily the Wordiest of the Le-
gislates to fear. To show that the Legislature tenant
the penoes should be sodded to publish weekly pam-
phlets, be a'se refined to the positive sweetmeats of
esempthie; which, together with the schedule which
be bad already quoted, proved that penons pablith.
gag monthly, weekly, or otherwise periodically,
pamphlets, provided they did sot contain news, in.
telllgeoce, or meaner's, neither evaded the Act
sr &heeded the IrMlllll, ; bet merely made use of
tie liberty whisk the law expressly gave them. lie
hod made these observations in cokseq of what
had kilts from the Noble Lord sod the Right Hon.
Gentleman, in order that the pineal alluded to might
sot be 'wieldy accused. He repeated his opinion,
that nothing avoid be more prolongs than very much
of what hod of late inlaid front the Pins. Indeed
re of his charges naiad Ministers was, that they
had set resorted to the old sad established laws to
stop the stream of blasphemy and sedition—laws
which he pledged himself at the proper time to Wiser
*ere more ellicient and better calculated to servo the
desired object than Government wosid find the new
tonsures which they were desirous to pints on the
ilighilAP4ririCoAl STPlL'Elialt7AntG. II observed, that the Hon.
end Loomed Gentleman was perfectly fair is slating
that he west not be considered in soy way pledged
by not opposing the Resolatiew. Until the Hall
should be before the House, Ike cunt eater, of its
previsions could sot well be judged If. If be hag
erroneously impaled hood to dire who bed not
committed it, he was very sorry; betel this be was
persuaded. that honem the person in qoastio.t
sight have list within the letter of the law, their
conduct bed bee a mischievous violative of Us
s,.i.it of the Logi.latore in ps•sing it.

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Mr. BROUGHAM, after a fore words ia
n~tiurr. slain eskri the Noble Lord it hi persevered
in preseglig all the new meavores wltb the haste which
I. had bitt•orto aabibtlitlf God reglad that be should
ii,ce onnecessmy delay. or throw soy impediment
i., the way of important Legislative proceedings; bet
he'ficenly contended that the noose might to hail
time to consider and snake op their Weds he the
alarming propositions gobmitted, and; boot to be sub-
milled to this, and that the peope act of doors
should bate the opporiosity, perhaps for lb* lost
of espressina their opialoo of that whist their
fileptves were oiled open Delay. in
fi ructcol iostinte, llama of occasioning mischief,
vivid be productive of 'MMus bet pod. It was

most jest sad weemary.
Lord CASTLEREAGII replied, that it was de.
'treble the the second reeding of which stood for
to.morrow, sod which was ets the peleciple that had
on a former °genies boas recoil eised by Perlismeet,
should be passed as espeditiessly as possible. With
referees:, to the Bill t • be fosorded on the Resolion
sow proposed to the Committee, Ik upo
n
• dismission upon
•it otleht probably he taken with advantage sheet the
middle of treat west.
Sir M. W. RI DI.EY pretested sgsiest the aces. 1
racy of the Noble Lord's stateseset, thst the Bull
which was t• be read a ',coma time to-morrow was
en the same prinriple es the lest measure seder sal
mile title adopted by Parlisesent. The sited dislinc-
lies rbelweem thes with, that the *se was temporary,
the ether peretewmot.
Mr. J. P. GRANT declared that 0 tar was the
Rill which the Noble Lord proposed should be read a
second ties* to-morrow frees beieg of inferior im.
portant", eves is its details, or from regolling less
coosidorstion than soy other, that it ass one, of the 0
moat imports's( measures ewer embmitted to the coati.
iteration of Parliament, pipe, es it did, wholly to
abrogate the Common Law of Englatul. by asnihi.
laths a tares part of the rights of the sabre.
troduced as such a meteors was. not as temporary in
it, nature or local in its appiket.ro, the tendency
was most saaterially in affect lbw isterests of the sets.
yeet and to impair the Constitution, and he cools, not
help espreseing the teelioes which he entertained of
the precipitation with which the consideratios of seise.
portent a proceeding was honied on.
'fhe Resolution was then screed te, the Holm re.
sewed, sad the report was ordered to be recered to.
aotrow.—Adjoorned.

INDIA PAPERS.
Bonsai, Juts 46.—The Fort of Copse Wrong
was carried by inset., en die 14th of May, by the
• force coder the commute' of General Niftier. The
assistance was considetable,and tbe enemy committed
the
otlasidersble Mattock, by throttle' steers from
work. Tito loss es this occasion was sin killed and
woonded, end this lass been acceented for
by the try spirited manner In which the officers slid
seen did lbw ditty. We bete to lenient the loss of
a very promising mug elicit, Ensign El;ott, of
the ItifleCorps, who fell, whoa everting Wooed In
the tamest. as .the second getessy. Captain Dean,
Assistant Qsarteraseeter-General, sod Lint. Pringle
Taylor, were 'inertly wounded.
It appetite that the Nabob of Leann, !seethes&
proper to declare Mesta independent el the Greet
Isl ogrl of Dvlhi, no longer acknowledging himself the
Naib or Viceroy of that Coert, bet having himself
gs somett the title of Royalty. lie of cows* now
coins mosiey in his own ROW. men proclaim
Inns Skew Skagen, Kieg of the Earth. We dare say
the other Nebo*, end Snobalts of India •ill soon
follow his easeepw Their dependence spec the Conti
of Delhi was long since bet nominal. The now King
is tbe richest of the lodise tributeriei of the British

empire.
Collet ',ruble consternation prevails amongst the
native opetation at the relent of the epi
amongstp us. Diving the last week neesereresd castemics
hare vcrerred, end we en entry to add, many natives
tare fallen victims to it. We teen, however, that
the strong let 1 winds which now prevail will egsin
drive ars dreedfel plesgee from soonest es. It is,
USIBMT to be observed, that in Bengal the disease
was at its greatest height daring the hot winds of last
year.—(l4adres Courier, Imo )
BIOAOII. Julia 17, 1819.--We had last night,
sheet a getters past seven o'clock, • very gellPte
shock of an eertbgeske, the ground moved jest like
the waves of the sea, it was with the greatest diffi-
culty I cowed keep on my legs, the wells of the bosses
nooved backwaids and waterrl the lamps went
with very geick metioe, the in see well rose
many feet with a greet Reim, tad did not subside for
so hoer after all was over. Europeans end natitre
ves
all van into the streets; many aides hous
throws, and several boats 'poet by the hous
es d e
re
motion of the river. It lasted alma three mieetes. I
never in my life felt sech an awful mosseet, story ease
_peeling bonsai death.
This morning at tee. we had soother` light shock
for a few seconds, sineerely keys iwill be the

Laolt.—Renjeet Sin, the lAlsere Chief, ha
motion tn s
n
spin assembled hit army, owl pet it its ..
wards Cashmere. The advisee Is cemassoded by his
oldest see, Cerreck Sim. This, it seems, is the
!
tweet (stowable Karon for reetratieg that arrows!,
bet Renjeet Sing encourages his troops, by wasting
them that many of the Cashmere Sliders will join him
end gigs ep the place without saki°, tesistance.—
Thie, however, is my doebtfel.
Caeut..—biltheined Shah, who for some months
was reported dead. is still alive et Candshar„ bet
confined with 'Mutest and unable to move. SO tat
Uhnelk's pregress his been emitted at Dere Ishmael
Khan, Mr the want of resources. lie has got ro.
session of a small district there, upon the revenue of
which he aid his followers tutosist. s
par money
they castoot get forward. The opposing ty are
idle aesthete of r sssss cm, and clothe helpless ;
aed the Afghan Sirdars Inge no wish tn assist either— •
meth pseferring skied of independence in his seen (I,s•
trio, to a 'stetter over the whole ; hence there ap-
pars little prospect of the kingdom of Cahul being
% united under one bred, 'elms snare Weed steps for.
weld with a few lacks of tepees to support the pre.
tensions of Salmi cabals bosiuois wool()
11000 bOoottlirti.