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what they have said? Painful, and, in reference to same of
the charges, disgusting as the process would be, yet, if the
noble lord desires it, and if he will give us a suitable oppor-
tunity, and appoint suitable and competent examiners, we are
ready. (Great cheering.) It seems, from another clause I
have transcribed from the noble lord's speech, that he has
seen some of those documents upon which we grounded our
charges, for he is reported to have said, "Those prurient
passages would never have been known had not some persons
pointed them out for purposes of their own !" Doubtless they
would nothavebeenknown to hislordship ; butdoes he mean to
say they would not have been known to persons whose duty
it was to read the books, and whose duty it was to teach others
out of the books ? (Cheers.) " They would not have been
known if some persons had not pointed them out for their
own purposes." Clearly not; Sir Henry Smith pointed them
out, and others that might be named. IBS lordship admits by
implication, that these passages are in the books. fie says,
they would not have been known had they not been pointed
out ; is not that admitting they are there, and does not
that make good what we growl' upon those passages, and
may we not claim the noble lord himself as -
that we have substantiated our charges? (Hear, hear,
and cheers.) But he says, that *,* Some persons pointed
out those passages from interested motives of their own !"
(Hear.) Now, I must take the liberty of saying, that this
is a charge that ought to be substantiated before it is circu-
lated. ( Hear and applause.) Here from his place in par-
liament, and with all the authority most justly to be derived
from his character and his high office, the noble lord has
circulated through the country a charge without any attempt
at the proof of that charge. (Hear.) We did not do so ;
our proofs are as widely circulated as our charges! (Cheers.)
But I must not pursue this subject. I perceive, by the re-
solutions prepared for submission to you. this evening, that
other speakers will be called upon to enter upon this
topic. I shall not enter into the particulars upon the
present occasion, with regard to what is taught at May_
nooth ; it is sufficient that I have told the noble se-
cretary, first of all, that if he wants further proof—or,
rather, if he wants the proof we have given exhibited
in a different form—we are ready to give it in any way that
it may seem good for him to require ; and secondly, to
expostulate with him upon having circulated such a charge
against us—for I take the liberty of enumerating myself
among those who have circulated these charges (cheers)—
for he has circulated a grave charge against us, without
substantiating it with a single proof, or an attempt at proof.
(Hear.) Upon one subject more I must offer a few obser-
vations, and they must be general, as these have been, before
I sit down. There has been brought before the public
within the last few days, in another debate in the House
of Commons, a subject of lively interest to you in this
town—l mean the subject of scriptural education. (Hear,
hear, hear.) Now here, as I said' before, I cannot enter
into particulars at present. There may be a good time
coming for that ; but one point, and that contained
again in the speech of the noble secretary for Ireland, I
must refer to. It is reported that he said, The scriptural
extracts used in those schools comprise the historical books
of the Old Testament, the gospel of St. Luke, and the Acts
of the Apostles, but they did not supersede the use of the
Scriptures ; and he must say that the accusations made
against the board, of garbling the Holy Scriptures, were en-
tirely unfounded." (Hear.) I now hold in my hand a vo-
lume of the Extracts. I read in the preface, which is very
short, " This number contains the whole of the gospel by
St. Luke." The preface justifies the moble lord's speech,
but unfortunately the hook itself controverts both the noble
lord and the preface. (Hear.) This number does not contain
the w holegospel of St. Luke: it does not containthefirstehapter
of St. Luke complete. (Hear.) There is an omission of ten
verses in the very Ist chapter, and yet the noble lord says
that the charge of garbling the Holy Scriptures brought
against the Board, is "entirely unfounded !" (Hear.) I
must tell you how the Holy Seripturei are garbled in this
place. In what professes to be the Ist chapter of St. Luke,
there is at the 27th verse a change in the print, a change in
the style, and instead of Scripture there is a description,
written I do not know by whom, of what the suppressed
verses contain. The passage describing the Scripture
is this—it is at a very remarkable place. " And in the
sixth month the Angel Gabriel was sent from God in-
to a city of Gallilee called Nazareth, to a virgin es-
poused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house
of David ; and the virgin's name was Mary." There
they stop ; that is the Scripture ; but what comes next ?
There is what they call a bracket, (you know what a bracket
is,) and then in smaller print we read this, " And the Angel
saluted her as one peculiarly blessed of God, and intimated
to her, that although she was a Virgin, she should bear a
son, [that is their attempt to be more delicate than the Scrip-
ture] by the immediate power of the Holy Ghost, and that
she should call his name Jesus, which name signifies Saviour.
This name was to be given to him, because as St. Matthew
tells us, he was to save his people from their sins.
The same evangelist says that Jesus was to be horn of a
Virgin, that an ancient prophecy might be fulfilled, which
said behold a Virgin shall be with child, and shall bring
forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,
which being interpreted, is God with us. When the Angel
had finished his annunciation, [Then there is another
bracket,] Mary said, " Behold the handmaid of the
Lord." Now, that is not garbling the Bible ; the charge
that they are garbling the Scripture, is " entirely unfound-
ed ;" but here I say, the charge of garbling the Scripture is
entirely maintained. (Cheers.) It is supported. (Cheers.)
It is proved by documentary evidence that they have garbled
the Scriptures, and what for. I will real you a passage
that will shew you what for? The omitted verses contain
the address of the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary. Why
should this be omitted ? Is it not very suspicious? If there
is a passage in the whole Bible which they would have in
for the Roman Catholics, one would think it would have
been the address of the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary ;
but the angel did not say to the Virgin Mary, what they say
he said " Why should this be omitted? Because it does
not contain the celebrated angelical salutation' of the
Romish Church—' Hail, Mary, full of grace!' To have in-
troduced
this into the text, without even one convenient
manuscript to quote in its favour, would have been too
daring a step even for the Irish Board. On the other hand,
to introduce what the angel really did say in his own words,
to the exclusion of • Hail, Mary,' would have been treason
against Roman prejudices. A most ingenious device got rid
of the difficulty, without either alarming superficial Protes-
tants, or bereaving Roman Catholics of their darling.
anthem. The passage was not translated at all, but para-
phrased in an abstract of the omitted verses." But
the charge made against the Board of garbling the Scrip-
tures is " entirely unfounded." So says her Majesty's Secre-
tary for Ireland. Now her Majesty's Secretary for Ireland
believed what he said. What he said, he thought was the
truth ; he is utterly incapable of saving what he did not
believe to be the truth at the time. How then is it to be
accounted for ? It is to he accounted for by his noble
nature, taking for granted what these men told him. If he
took this book in his hand he would see in the preface.
" This number contains the whole of the gospel by St. Luke."
It is not to be expected that he. should go and examine it
verse by verse as our business is, therefore, he did not
detect what I have exposed, and therefore, he honestly
told what he believed to be the truth, and he told what
in point of fact, is not the truth. This is a specimen of what
they go upon ; and now, because of that speech of the noble
lord, we have noble councillors saying in this town, " the
government is with us, after all, upon education !" (Hear.)
I hope we shall have no councillors trimming and changing,
after getting in as friends of scriptural education. (Loud
cheers.) I hope we shall have no narrow majorities upon that
subject when the council divides again, (Renewed cheers.)
Watch them ! (Loud cries of "We will watch them.")
The time for watching is now, without much talk : the time
for action is coming. (Hear.) November is very near!
(Renewed cheers.) The reverend gentleman, after a few
.more observations, resumed his seat amidst loud cheers.
The Rev, WALTER BUTLER, incumbent of St. Thomas's
in the Fields, then came forward, amidst much cheering, to
move the first resolution. He said that, in being invited to
that place, he had an opportunity, which lie had long wished
for, of being introduced to a person whose name be had heard
when far, tar from Liverpool, andiwhose advocacy of this
cause he had long respected and esteemed—lie meant their
excellent chairman. (Loud cheers.) He was also glad to
have this opportunity of congratulating those among whom
his ministry was to be exercised, upon the strength of their
attachment to Protestant principles ; and for himself, he re-
joiced to have this opportunity of expressing his opinions
and sentiments concerning this great and important ques-
tion. Though his voice was but a humbie one, he was
happy to raise it, and to cry out against the encouragement
given to Popery. (Cheers.) Protestantism loved the light,
but every thing connected with Romanism loved darkness.
(Cheers.) The Rev. Gentlemen concluded by moving " That
it appears to this meeting that there exists a necessity for
undiminished exertion to obtain a parliamentary inquiry
into the laws by which the Romish College of Maynooth
was founded and still continues to be supported with the
funds of the country; that the advantage of these exertions
is also manifest from the increase in the numbers in favour
of the inquiry, there appearing on the late division a minority
of 49, whereas in the last session only eight voted on that
side."

a Witness

sengers.—

SECRETS WORTH KNOWING.—The Lord Mayor Daniel
left London on Saturday, arrived on Sunday, and left Dublin
on Monday evening. Why did he come—why did .hego ?
What brought him—and what took him away ? D'ye give
it up ? Money ! It is a fact. Money brought him here,
and money brought him hence. He begged and received
£soo—a quarter's salary, from the corporation, without
which he could not have returned to the great metropolis.
" His doors were throng'd with gaping creditors ;
He had not fifty ducats in the world;
He was obliged to flee the hungry Jews.
But the treasurer, Finn, reliev'd his wants,
And off he flew with five hundred flimsies."
These are facts, and no mistake.—Evening Packet.

PAINFUL ACCIDENT.—The following singular accident
lately occurred in the theatre at Frankfort :—The entertain-
ment for the evening consisted of a piece by Edward De-
vrient, entitled True Love, in which was a representation of
the Seasons ; the performer who personated " Winter,"
wearing a long beard, and carrying in his hand a vessel con-
taining lighted spirit for the supposed'purpose of keeping
himself warm. Having incautiously set fire to his long beard,
he turned suddenly aside, and in the confusion of the
moment touched with the burning vessel the white muslin
dress of a young girl who personated " Spring." The poor
creature was instantly enveloped in flames, and ran shriek-
ing from the stage, followed by the rest of the performers,
but almost immediately reappeared, uttering loud cries for
help, at the same time the curtain being lowered, added fresh
terrors to the scene, the audience conceiving the theatre to
be on fire, and rushing simultaneously to the door. Fortu-
nately the manager here made his appearance, and assuring
them that there was no danger, and that he would be ready
in a few minutes to continue the performance, at length suc-
ceeded in quieting their alarm. They had, however, been
too much excited, as well on their own account as on that
of the unfortunate sufferer, and immediately retired. The
girl, whose name is Dannecker, had arrived only a few days
previous from Worzburgh. Her injuries, though severe,
are, we rejoice to add, not of a fatal character. The
manager's hand was much burnt.

AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY.—A correspondent of the Mark
Lane Express furnishes that paper with an estimate of the
receipts, at the Bristol meeting, which, in round numbers,
are stated to be as follows :

_......-......--
Wednesday.—Show of Implements, 800 at ss. each £2OO
Thursday, up to one o'clock.—Cattle show—.
16,000, at 2s. 6d.
After one o'clock to six, P M., 12,000, at Is. each 600
Friday.-5,000, at Is. each
... 250
Council dinner tickets, exclusive of invitations .. 450
Pavilion ditto
1,200
Ladies' Gallery ditto.
150

£
besides about £1,200 arrears of subscriptions which w4,ereBso re-
ceived on the occasion. Notwithstanding the magnitude of
these receipts, the Society does not, neither does it desire to,
pocket much by the exhibition. Its contracts for the dinners
have been most liberal. The expenses of the pavilion and
show yard, too are very great, amounting to nearly £2,000.
They distributed also upwards of £1,300 in prizes, and have,
besides, to pay the expenses of the judges, printing, &c.,
which amount to a considerable sum ; so that the exhibition
does little more than clear itself, leaving the ordinary income-
of the association free to meet its ordinary expenditure. The
following was the bill of fare provided for.the Grand Dinner
at the PaVilion, on Thursday :-500 roast fowls ' • 200 joints
of lamb ; 50 lamb pies ; 50 pigeon pies ; 100 hams ; 100
tongues ; 125 joints of boiled beef; 125 joints roast beef; 110
fruit pies ; 110 open tarts ; 500 dishes of vegetablei ;' 100
salads; 200 dishes of butter; 200 dishes cheese; GOO bottles
of sherry ; 600 bottles of port; and 100 gallons of beer.
ALLEGED MURDER OF A MOTHER. BY HER SON.--
During Thursday afternoon and Wednesday, the towns of
Leeds and Wakefield were thrown into excitement from a
report that au elderly woman, -of the name of Sykes, a
widow, had been murdered by her son. Thomas Sykes, a
young man, about 24 or 25 years of age, in the employ of
Messrs. Nicholls and Son, stationers, Reigate, Wakefield.
Upon some of the neighbours going into the room they found
the deceased woman dead, and a Violent contusion was found
upon the head, as well as another mark, which left nn: doubt
that the death of the deceased had been-occasioned by
vio-
lence. An account of the dreadful 'transaction subsequently
reached the high constable, who instantly set about making
inquiries, when it was ascertained. that in the course of the
afternoon or evening of Tuesday the son had come home
from Wakefield, and shortly after he had been in the house
he and his mother were heard to have words. The deceased
was pointing out to him the impropriety of his conduct in
spending his money in liquor and other acts of intemperance,
and begging him to alter his present course of life ; instead
of the advice of the deceased producing the wished-for alter-
ation in her son's conduct it tended to exasperate him, when
declaring that he would not alter, he struck his mother a
tremendous blow on the head, which felled the poor creature,
and her head came in contact with the top of the fender,
thereby causing a contused wound. The violence of the fall
caused some of the persons in the place to come into the
room, when the deceased was lifted up insensible, and placed
in bed. A surgeon was sent for, but after a short time of
suffering the poor creature expired from the injuries which
she had received. Sykes, as soon as he had knocked his
mother down, left the house and returned to Wakefield, but
was apprehended..
STRONG SYMPATHY IN THE DOG.—AH interesting in-
stance of this feeling in the canine species, the authenticity
of which may be relied on, lately took place, or rather is
still proceeding, at Ivergeldie, a large sheep farm on the
estate of Lawers, near Cowrie, Perthshire. The overseer
became severely indisposed and for the first ten days after
their master had taken to bed his two faithful collies refused
to be comforted, mournfully declining all sorts of food, nay,
even milk warm from the cow, at last pressed upon them by
the domestics. At,length their case ibecame so serious—
for they were otherwise valuable dogs—that ;the overseer's
mother was prevailed-upon to inform her sick son, though at
the time very low, of the circumstance, begging of him, as a
Bernier ressort, to try what effect his own wor dwaonud h
ldsativlel
have upon the mute mourners. By an effort he succeeded in
a weak voice to name his favourites pointing at the same time
to food, pleafreeecdt ;a t
the handdog forsa t
oncethe
obeyed,trial. This gentle
since, as if it were still repeated to them, which is not likely
ever to be again, continued to take as much as supports life ;
but once every day at least, and oftener if opportunity offer,
they glide together into the room where the sick man is,
sli
stealthily to the bed side, raise their fore paws upon the bed
clothes, and in this attitude continue together for some time
to gaze intently on the pallid features of their now unconsci-
ous master, and then droopingly retire out of the room.—
Perth Paper.

The Rev. F. PARRY seconded the motion in an able
speech, and it was carried unanimously.
The Rev. T. NOLAN in an excellent address proposed the
second resolution, as follows :—" That this meeting regards
with sorrow, disapprobation, and alarm, the tone of the re-
cent debate in the House of Commons, on the subject of
National Education in Ireland, and wishes to record anew
their strenuous protest against any system of education not
recognising the pure word of God, as its only standard of
foundation."

Mr. Councillor lIARBORD seconded the motion, and it
was adopted.
Several _other speeches were afterwards made, and the
proceedings terminated about ten o'clock.

CORRESPONDENCE,

POPISH MASS-HOUSE, OLD SWAN.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.
SIR,—It will have been seen that the above house of idolatry
is to be opened on Thursday, 4th August; and particular atten-
tion should be paid to the placard announcing the same, for
it is therein stated that admission is to be by a charge of
ss. Gd. and 7s. Gd. ; and it is illegal that any charge should
be made for entry into a place of public worship, under a
heavy fine.

A LOSER BY THE EXCHANGE.—An extraordinary trial,
the circumstances of which are as follows, took place
nFri
Fri-
day before the Paris Tribunal of Correetional
Police.—Tbere
resides in the Chaussee d'Antin a young /ion, b ing the
htiatlsernofucChotuonta,nwswhoerafmoroningstthheiswoatyheorrfainshe,ilohismtabnleep
to sex. Having gained the affections of a certain danYisel„natned
Rosita, and suddenly put an end to the liasion, he ordered his
eeacre a
thed il Ifbaie
rs
porter, in the event of her calling, to deny him. The lady
did call, and received from that functionary the prescribed
reply of " Not at home." Resolved, however, upon seeing
the Count, she sent the following note to him on the next
day : " Monsieur le Comte, I was informed yesterday that
you were not at home. Be so good as to w4it within for me
this evening at 8 o'clock. Rosim."—The Count, not
exactly liking the dry tenour of this Lillet-dour, determined
on making himself scarce for a few days, and actually wento
off to Fontainebleau, leaving his valet, Lamhinet, inr care of
the apartment, and giving strict orders to the t
he was gone into the country to any personLhipiferstbeporuelpdacreadll:
As soon as his master had disappeared, 1
Amongst the
•Nsity by examining the Count's
bor. of Rosita. An in-
as most valets do, in the absence of theiurdio'oairrd.s, to satisfy his
rs which met his view was the letter of
to
the
porter and
ins idea struck him, and he went
This idea was to
she came.
gave orders to admit her when
due time, he was perfumed as
personate his master, and receive
and
clock struck 8, a ring was
heart, hurried to oven
No fewer than twenty one new magistrates have been linen and gayest attire. A. .
palpitating vderet
slisembieilille
1.1
isnster,s6 Accordingly,neistti
created for the metropolitan county.
I.itthlideas of soft dalliance, but
heard, and Labinet,
PRINTING IN INDIA.—The Agricultural and Horticul- it. There stood Rositaa,
and desire of revenge. The valet had
was not the Count, but the pre-
tural Society of Bombay have resolved hereafter to print filled with anger
sort of decor
not to prevent the visitor
,hfeor the visitor was in too great a
their transactions in England ; the state of the typographic managed to haveinags
art in Bombay being such that it is supposed they will be
wason with
notp Ip,,
received out overland cheaper, and in less time than if got captionhim in the face. She commenced at once
tip here. The Geographical Society, Medical Society, and passion t?difg.w
I.p,
1 , which she had brought with her, on
Asiatic Society, each publish their transactions quarterly;
layinga and face of the astonished valet, supposing, of
and it seems probable they may shortly be induced also to the shoulders.tshe was wreak_ ing her vengeance on the Count.
course, tna
• oouted out for.help, and on the porter runnin
once
kneeeesstahraet
print them at home!
Lambinet
sel perceived her mistake She g up,
FATAL ACCIDENT.—On Wednesday last, a man of the the angry dam in another . therefore
name of Evan Morris, whilst engaged in sinking a well near
turned her anger
~ mirrors and china direction, and commenced
Merthyr Tydfil, was suffocated by foul air. He was heard
'mashing the
had subsided, or vases of the apartment.
to cry for assistance, and a youth, of the age of 16, was let when her
fury
which it could be rather when there was no-
down to rescue him, and he also in a few minutes was lifeless. thing left
upon.
the Count great vented, she withdrew. On
Measures were then taken to agitate the foul air and displace the return
rt and th was his anger at the demolition
it from the bottom, when another person descended, and of his prope y, e cause which led to it, and which
to restore could not be concealed, for the
succeeded in bringing up the bodies, but all efforts .
Iwith the facts,porter, who had become ac-
quamtet
fasting n'int lion, who immediately turned •
the ,
his double. M. Lambi-
THE FASTING MAN.—Bernard Cavanagh,
the gullibility net out of the house. In the ho
man, who left his native village to speculate oil
w" for some pensation for the loss of his pe of obtaining some com-
of the public—and a profitable speculatioenteri
ned to his fa- ceedings against Rosita place, the valet commenced pro-
time, until the impostor was detected— r
and on Sunday his master. lie laid hi,
whose address he had learned from
tiler's house, near Swinford, on Saturday, He is de- the Tribunal fakirs
his
damages at a good round sum, but
l of that town.
,g all the i c rcumstances of the case into
made his appearance in the chape „...._,
_v. g,
in no doubt, consideration o l
scribed as being in "good condition n 5
he put himself, sentenced h , u y fined the fair delinquent 25 francs, and
made up fully for the restraints under which
Constitution. her to pay 25 francs asdamages to the unfortunate
Lambinet,—G /' ''
toe better to delude his dupes.—Mayo
a *Plant 8 Messenger.

Now, we are vastly too apt to pass over the various inno-
vations made by Papists of the present day.
The said Mass-house has been built with a steeple, against
LAW!
The said Mass-house has a peal of bells, against LAW!
And now, a charge, and a heavy one too, is to be paid for
admission, AGAINST LAW!

We trust our Protestant associations will be on the alert,
and watch the wily proceedings of these bachelor priests.
It is contrary to law that money should be paid for admis-
sion to any place of worship !
It is contrary to law that a Popish Chapel should have a
steeple !
It is contrary to law that a peal of bells should be used in
a Popish Chapel ; and yet these things are allowed without
restraint. Such things should not be.
Yours, &c.,
PROTEST.

curio;
Paper
genioi

Mr, Edwin, who a few years since obtained some celebrity
u a singer at the metropolitan theatres, expired lately at
New York.

CAUTION TO BUYERS OF MILK.—On the morning of
Sunday last, a person of the name of Richard Allan, a shoe-
maker, bought from a milkvender in this neighbourhood
his usual daily supply of that article. On being taken home
what was his astonishment when he perceived a diminutive
fish gombolling in the liquid. Richard says that "it is
as clear as noonday that the milk must have been watered,
because (as he adds) he never knew a cow produce fish be-
fore. !"—Westmoreland Gazette.

RAILWAY TRAFFIC.—The following calculation of the
last weekly returns of 38 railways, 1,337 miles in length, will
be of interest :—Number of passengers on 25 railways,
361,738, consequently the total for the week must be about
400.000. The receipts for passengers on 37 railways,
£76,921 19s. ; ditto for goods on 31 railways, X 17,369 14s, 2d.;
total, £94,291 38. 11d. This is an average of £7O lOs. per
mile per week. The traffic, therefore, is certainly at the rate
of about X 4,000,000 a-year, and carrying 15,000,000 of pas-
- —Railway Magazine.

PRINCE ALBERT AND THE ANTI-CORN LAW LEA GUE.—
This redoubtable body have addressed Prince Albert on the
subject of the present distress in the country, and his Royal
Highness, after acknowledging the receipt of the address
through his secretary, says, that whilst he feels sincere gym-
hathy with the sufferings and privations of those who are im-
mediately affected by this distress, he expresses his confidence
in the disposition of Paliament to do whatever can be done
by legislative means for the alleviation of it.
A deputation from the merchants and planters connected
with Ceylon and the Colonial Society had an interview on
Saturday with Sir R. Peel, to state the injuries which the cin-
namon trade received from the export duties levied in the
island. Lord Beaumont, Sir G. 11. Larpetit, and Messrs.
Gregson, Scott, Thomas, James Cooke, Layard, and Frith,
composed the deputation. They were favourably received
by Sir R. Peel, who promised to give attention to their re-
presentation.
THE MOORS.—From all quarters of the north we hear
favourable accounts of the grouse, and we may venture to
guarantee good sport to all our southern friends who have
chalked out their beat any where between the 57th and 58th
degrees of north latitude. But the birds everywhere will be
strong, and consequently wild, if the weather be unfavourable ;
and we would caution our young visitors—such as have only
been encased in their first or second shooting-jackets—that
they need depend little on dog-and-hand catching this sea-
son, as the birds will be too near the years of discretion, and
much too knowing for this practice.—lnverness Paper.
The Manchester and Birmingham Railway meeting last
week, which was special, was for the purpose of considering
what course the directors, under the advice of the share-
effectually to conclude the negocia-
'with the Grand Junction Railway for
pursue,
e
the settlement of the line of road, and the result was the
negotia-
tion longrs shouldsince openedpu
appointment of a committee to co-operate with the directors
in the matter. It is gratifying to see the Government in-
teresting themselves in the subject and affording suggestions
in order, it possible, to bring the question under considera-
tion to an equitable bearing to both parties, and it is to be
hoped that each body will accommodate itself in some degree
to the other's requirements, so that the shareholders collec-
tively shall not unnecessarily be wade to suffer in a pecuniary
point of view.