The Statesman.
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• ROUSE OF LORDS, Fail T.
The Royal Accent was notified by, Commission to the
11:411,. the 450(1,0001. Excbequtr
si(ls ill, and the t)i~tiJlation
The Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the Earl of Li-
`verpool, and Loll Wairineham.
Mr. Ilighamiwesented the Annual Account of the Commis-
Sinners for the Reduction of the National Debt. Ordered to lie
on the table.
On the M.tfop of the Archbishop of CANTERBURY, the
Thanks of the House were ordcred to the Lord Bishop of Chi-
Chester, for ,his Sermon preached Sf.for4 the House, in the Abbey
Ceuta of Westminster, ou the Past Day.
INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
• Lord REDESDALE, after presenting two peti-
tions from Imprisoned Debtors, observed) that not.
Arithstanding-Parliament had sereielitty passed an
.ilassolvewt Art, he understoOd that the Prisms* were
again almost as full as before: With ihe view)
therefore, Of obtaitaipg information upon this subject,
he moved for Accounts of the number of Persons
confined for Debt on the Ist of May, 1811, the day
on which the last Act took effect ; the number dis-
charged under that Act, and the number in confine.
meat on the sth•of February 1812.
The Earl of MOIR.A expressed his satisfaction
that this subject had been again taken up by the
Nobl,. and Learned Lord, dewing the motions now
made as an anticipation of the Noble Lord's inten-
tion to renew the Bill which he brought forward last
session. The pledge he (Lord Moira) had given up.
on the subject, was a heavy burden open his shout
Iders ; and he should most sincerely rejoice to see it
again taken up by the Noble and Learned Lord,
who, from his professional knowledge, was so much
better qual:fid 'o do it justice. Something, he IC 6
I convinced, must he done, and that very speedily, to
ameliorate the condition of- a numerous class of
'persons who were daily suffering oppression through
Ithe neglect and inattention of the Legislature.
The Accounts were Ordervd.
ORDERS IN COUNCIL.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose to give no.
tice of his intention, in the coarse of a short time, to
bring forward a motion .relative to the Orders ia
Council. Without entering into any detail, he
thought it. necessary to state that there were two views
in which the subject might be considered. The one
was, the effect prodneed by the Orders in Council
upon our Negociations with the United States of
America ' • and the other, the effect produced by them
upon the Commerce and Prosperity of the Country.
Without giving ap for himself, or any other Noble
Lord, the right of interfering with respect to our
Negociathsus with America, if it should be thought
necessary, he would merely mention that his motion
would be confined to the latter view of the subject,
namely, the effect of the Orders in Council upon the
Commerce, the Manufactures, and the Resources of
ithe Country. He wished to name rather a distant
day, and would therefore move that the House be
liesnmoned for Monday fortnight.
Earl BATHURST wished to know which of the
Orders in Council the motion of the Noble Marquis
would refer to ?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, be would
state that at a future opportunity ; and also apprize
the Noble Earl, if he wi:,hed it, of the terms of his
motion.
Lord GRENVILLE concurred entirely with his
Noble Friend upon this subject, and as it was noto-
rious, that, in consequence of the- pressure upon the
Commercial and Manufacturing Interests of the
Country, arising from the effect of the Orders in
Council, Petitions had been presented to the Prince
Regent, praying that those Orders might be revoked,
.one in particular from a great commercial town, and
another from a place considerable in manufactures,
he wished to be informed by the Noble Lords oppo-
site, whether they would have any objection to a
motion for laying these petitions before the House?
The Earl of Li VERrOOL could not consent to
a motion so unusual, at least without further consi-
ideration, as to the effect of the precedent which
I might thus be established. lie had, however, no
objection to state, for the information of the Noble
Lords opposite,. in the proposed diseussiou, what
amide Petitions were. One, as was already known,
vralt from Liverpool. The having information of the
nature of the Petitions would probably answer all the
purpose of the Noble Lords in the intended discus.
slon without any motion.
Lord GRENVILLE said he should not press such
a motion, as, if the proposed information was given
respecting them, it would Besulficient.
FINANCE,
Ford GRENVILLE adverted to the observation
he hid made on a former evening relative to a state.
nierrt which had gone forth amongst the public. of the
comparative state of the produce of the Consolidated
Fund, in the years ending the bth of January, 1811
and 1812, namely, that the deficiency in the latter,
year, as compared with the former, amounted to
linty 2,000,0001. He had in consequence moved for
the accounts which were now on the table, for the
leerpose of clearly shcwing what the actual state of
the revenue was, and it was merely to draw the at.
tention of the llouse to the arithmetical result of
these documents, that he now rose. It surly re-
quired very little knowledge of the subject not to In
that • 's a fallacious mode -f consi.
, to draw a balance from
and account, without refer.
the income was made up,
were applied to defray
as to the comparative
taxes applicable to the
. it would be found upon
,4 that the real deficiency in the
appticible to the service of the
‘r eliding the sth of Jan. 18IC,
ykeir *luting tlaii bth of Jan. 1431 i,

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