The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-23 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

Proper arrangements were filially made for an early
resentation of t he addiess by the member!. for South-
.' ark, and the principal initabitaws of the parish of
4t. Saviour, which is what is called a (Wit
ind unconnected with the other parishes which f Ull•
statute the borlmlth.

Meth this mark of her regard, and they could awl but
accept her offer with grateful feelings.—(Hear, hear!)
—ln his opinion it would not have degraded the Lord
Mayor to have made the communication to the ll'oort,
coming, as it did, front the Queen of Eugland.—{Hear,
hear.)—They were indebted to the IVorthy Alderman
for bringing it before them, otherwise they might
never have received it. The Lord Mayor, acting in
a Ministerial capacity, shoold not have consulted his
politics, but ought to discharge his public duty to that
Court.

The eureling bruke up at niue &duck.

COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL.
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1 Yesterday a Court of Common Council was held.
I !,6 take into consideration several questions of import.
.7110 Ire.
Mr. Ot.nn.tss rose, he said, to put a question to the
Lord Mayor. He saw a statement in the newspapers,
cotuplaining of the neglect of certain Magistrates„
notwithstanding the proceedings of that Court, where
the conduct of certain Aldermen was made the sub.
jest of a Report : it was stated, that Mr. Alderman
Ansley had neglected his duty as a Sitting Magistrate
at the Justice Room of the Old Bailey for one whole
week, When he (Mr, Oldham) presented a report to
Lord Sidtmmth, stating that the City could not spare
the attendance of .4' 'ertnen to command the City
Militia, the !Thera lo 'toted that lie did not recollect
any instance of neglect on the part of any of the
Aldermen; the lientlematt might, a idiom much
.i...letsce to his no ,.. have recollected come in.
I'ARCP4 of that kind, but hr acted then as a kind of
.N. 4 ,mi ri,ordn stuff [a laugh, and cries of " Order!"]
Ilse question he would now put was, whether the
Coort of A Mermen had taken :sly steps to render the
asJininistration of justice in the City more punctual
and regular ? It would depend on the answer of his
Lordship, witrther the Court should take any proceed.
log on the subject ?
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I)tluN expressed his hope that her Majesty
would come wit of tit.: ordeal of inquiry with a pare

The Lotto as.cYon said, that he had seen the dr-
oimatance stated in the papers. With respect to Mr.
Alderman Ansley, he would refrr the Gentlemen to
the Sheriff (Bothwell), who was much better able to
state th:• nature of the attendances of Magistrates at
:he Justice Doom of .the Old Bailey. The business
of Magistrates had greatly increased, and it was diffi-
cult to get gentlemen of respectability to attend.
Mr. Sheriff RoTetwat.t., in a low tone of voice, said
t!lat he was nut aware of any neglect on the pert of
Mr. Alderman Ansley at the Justice Ruott► at the Old
Bailey.
Mr. OLnifau said, he mentioned the Justice•room
at Guildhall.

The &trttt►r said, he understood the (kitties= to
have issentionell the ingtiee-room at the Old Bailey.
Mr. OLDII.C-:—Thtn, if I did, it was a mistake.

The Surnter—With respect to Guildhall Justice-
rootn. I cannot say any thing of the :Men lance of
Magistrates at that office.
Tux Alderman Ws:roman said, he
hal a comtntiniestion bunt her Shjesty to make to the
Cart [hear ! hear !]. He had received a letter from
• Worthy Magistrate now absent, inclosing a paper
signed '• Matthew Wood," which he would now read.
It WAS as follows :

" f 0 TUN LONG MATO,. A NENIFIrd, •Mlib CON/lON COUNCIL

or LON DOX

" I am commanded br her Majesty the Queen to re-
quest that the Corporation of London will accept of the
Portrait of her Majesty, as a testimony to the City of
Londoo of the gratitude she feels towards the Corpora-
Con of the first city in the world, for the sincere and
zealous loyalty they have ever ananifested in the cause of
the Queen."
tie (Alderman Waithman) waited on the Lord
Ayer to present the communicat. to hitu ; not
tivaling him at bottle, he wrote a letter W bis Ltd-
shit', ea/losing the communication, revesting him to
present it to the Court. lie received ass amasser tide
morning from the Lord Mayor, which he would read :
The Lord Mayor presents Isis compliments to Mr.
Mennen Walthman, and returns him the paper signed
• Matthew W• 041.. The Lord Mayor must decline lay-
in.. it before the Conrt of Compton Council, because,
under existing cirs'uilistances, be felt it would be incon-
sistent with his duty to meddle in an affair of GO much

Importance."
Ile (the Alderman) would not say whether the ford
Mayor had acted right ur not ; but it occurred to him
that his Lordship, actinc in hi. Ministerial capacity,
was the proper channel through which that paper
ought to be presented to the Conrt. lie, however, de-
clined doing so, and he (the .tlderman) would now
make that communication u he would also submit a
motion on the snhject, that the offer of her Majesty's
portrait he gratefully accepted by this Court, and that
the Thanks of the Court he returned to her Majesty
fur this mark of her gracious condescension and re-
gard fur the Corporation and Citizens of London. He
knew that nothing was nearer the heart of her Ma-
jesty than the good of the City of London; nothing
m tile a deeper impression on her mind than their
generous conduct toward% her. She took this manner
to testify her regard awl her gratitude, as it was the
only means in her power of 'hewing her sentiments
towards them.
Mr OLDUA:I rose to second the Resolution, but be
confessed that a happier moment might have been se-
lected for presenting the letter in question. It wits
doe to the Court to receive the communication, though
presented at a moment when they would make up
their minis 'spots the imputed guilt, or the expected
ianocence of her Majesty. He hoped that she would
cease out of the investigation pure and unsullied, and
then 11% was sure that every Member of the Court
oeuld wish to see the portrait of her Majesty hung
up in the Common Council Chamber—(hear). It
was unfortunate that they could nut now go to as
great lengths as they would wish, but they would not
do ololetteo to their feelings or their judgment, to re-
rein with meet and gratitude the picture which she
wet pleaded to oiler them, Nrwl to return their respect.
lime ameba to her Majesty. He was glad that the He.
wisdom slept jest there. If it went an iota further,
he would (eel it his duty to vote to reject it, and be
believed the majority of the Court would concur with
ben.
faratt said, be would not say any thing that
slight provoke a debate. Coneultiag their character
and Lenoir, the Court email do as other thee accept
with grateful feelings the tribute which her Majesty 1
wt. pleated to pay them. Could. be ask, any one I
doubt the pfroptiety of the fawner decisions 'of the
Court with respect to her
' illsjeety. Mace the. Court
hid marital *air ilastiap Sows* her• and she re-
ceived theeesperatioa is aisa slassismaest meaner ? It
wee snared, *erten,, tist kit Majesty Amid -.pew.

charade!. ; then would I,e as %tilling as any man to
bear his humble testimony in her favour ; bat it was
his opinion that the Court had not acted wisely in
their former interference, an I they ought n .1 again to
interfere pending the proceedings against her Majesty.
Should her Majesty come pore out of the inquiry, it
woulol be almost their duty to request that she would
honour them with her portrait ; hut he would hot hold
up his hand in favour of the lirsoolotion, considering it,
as he did, an inconsiderate art. Ile would nut how-
ever, hold up his hand against it.
Mr. PEACIit K thought that it was not the ditty of
the lewd Mayor to present the communication to the
Court, but that it came inure appropriately from the
Worthy Alderman.
Mr. T. .1. Witou sus said he would wish to pay
every mark of res;wet towards her Majesty, but he
thought that pending the investigation, it was too
ouch to ask them to accept of her Majesty's portrait,
-s-(a laugh)—that was the way of judging of the
lartgls.)—The nation would say, that we
accepted of this preset': with satisfaction—(hear,
hear)—and that after hearing the charges against her
Majesty—(hear, bear)—and the evidenre that sup-
ported those rharges—(hear, hear)—without having
heard any evidence un the other side.—(clear, hear).
So that they must be already convinced of her isno-
cence.—(Cries of hear, hear.)—inch must be their im-
pression when they accepted of the picture of her Ma-
jesty with pleasure and satisfaction.—(Cheers.)—This
would he the inference which would be drawn by every
Corporation iu the kingdow.—(hear, hear.)— Would
they wieh that su:11 an impression should go forth?—
(Hear, hear.)—Then, if unfortunately, the two Houses
of Parliament should ilegr.ode her Majesty, what a
lamentable situaCoA ivAuld they be in ? It was
better, in his opini,on, et,yr the couimunieation of
her Majesty on their Journal., and then it would be
competent for them, At aii) future period, to have the
picture hung up in the Cournion Council Chamber.
Mr. 11k1EFIT116 wishes! to know what harm it would
do them to accept the gracious offer of her Majesty.
on what ground would they attempt to refuse it ? lie
was aware, that un any question, however obvious. or
however popular, one or two could be always found to
throw It lute the back groom], hut the Court could du
nothing but accept with gratitude the offer of ber
Majesty.

at large. He Mined on this position as on a rock, and.,
should the Lord Mayor resist the declared opinion of
the Court, there would be an end to their privileges.
Highly as they might respect the Chief Magistrate,
they still could not surrender their privileges out of
respect for his feelings. It would, in fact, introduce a
system which would lead to their ruin as a public
body. He would ask thaw to look at the decision that
had been just made, four ur tire against one hundred,
Were ever the sentiments of the Court score unequivo-
cally expressed ? Was the Lord Mayor to controul the

expression of t boor sentiments ?
Mr.OLDnam said that his Lordship was called on to

act ministerially. It was his duty to obey the wishes
of the Court. He was not to have any feelings of his
own, at least he was not to indulge those feelings
against the obvious calls of duty.
Mr.Dixow said the Lord Mayor of London was placed
1111 oft awkward situation.—(A laugh.)—He thought
his Lordship ought to be allowed some discretion.
Suppose tientlemen proposed and decided that his
Lordship should take physic, was he bound therefore
to take it ?--(A laugh)—He moved as an Amendment,
*at the S!ierilf be requested to attend with the Lord
*woe on her 3lajesty.
Mr. Alderman Warrmosse did not look on the wait-
lag on her Majesty to convey to her the gratitude of
the City of London as a task, he thought it an office of
honour.—(Hear.)—The Lord Mayor was the head of
the Corporation, but it wa not assumed that his Lord-
ship always concurred in their opinions. He acted in
a ministerial rapacity: lie (Alderman Waithusan) felt,
that if he had proposed to convey the sentiments of the
Corporation throne+ any other channel, he would de-
serve the censure of the Court, for it would be convey-
ing a marked disrespect to the Lord Mayor, it would
be holding out an insinuation that his Lordship would'
hesitate to perform his duty. The Lord Mayor's sen-
timents were well known. As well might it be sup-
posed if they voted an Address of Thanks to Lord
Chatham, for conducting the Walcheren Expedition,
that the Lord Mayor, by conveying that rote to his
Lordship, concurred in the cute as that he concurred
is the sentiments embraced in the Resolution which
they had just adopted. He was sorry that his Lord-
ship's feelings were hurt ; it was true indeed that it
had physiced him, he had only to regret that the
physic operated so powerfully upon him.---(A laugh.)
The Loan Msttia said that he hail, from a sense of
duty, gone up with former Addresses to her Majesty. I
But feeling as he ditl, he hoped the Court would have
excused him on the present occasion. As Lord Mayer,l
his name appeared at the head of all those useasores,
and many of his hien& in the country had asked w►e-'
thee he had concurred in those measures. He still.
hoped they would excuse his attenda.a
The motion was put and carried.
Mr. Altl,lltiall WAITIIII %X next moved that it be"
referred to the Committee of City Loads.. to report
the most appropriate situation in the Hell of the
Common Council to place the picture of her Majesty.

SI r. Alderman Wsteticsx said, that the Corpora- Mr. T. J. WlLLlA;lll.objecti-pd to the aeons.
Hon of London had witnessed and opposed acts of ep• Mr. WthLtaca (Sherbroleot) moirsidercei that the
peession against her Majesty. such sr were never motion was one which, after having accepted of the
witnessed before.—{hear, hear.)—They had supported picture and returned thanks to her lillajesty, they
her Majesty under those trials—they supported her were bound to entertain.
with the people, whose respect and alfeatios she per Mr. Monts' felt himself bound to dissent from the
sitsseil.—(Hear, hear.)—They, as men, could not have nsotioe as it stood. He agreed that it was their duty to
acted any other part. If the Corporation had wit. receive the picture, that it was their deer to relent
tressed 'hose acts of oppression nonsoresi--if they had thanks tokheer Majesty for it; but whilst ma isquiry was
out slept forward in favour of her Majesty—if they Essautienif chawastisierduaultHArseet ituotiupilrayceterthutaltrairer °I; the'
waited until the 101 l title of charge had been let is motion was, that the Committee sfiould Report lisit
upon her, their interference afterwards would be *se- ;ace to hang the pktnre, he would agree to the '
less and insulting to her, and neither dignified or Is it he would not agree to a proposithau oil&
manly 211 reflecting un themselves. He simply wished pledge them to place it at once in the Cameo On i
by the Resolution to convey to her Majesty the gnti. I Chamber. He had no doubt hut that there was a rail
trade of the Court. He etas hot surprised at the uh• e
deal►
of false evidetw given spinal her Majesty—.(fieeri
bear!).—He had no doubt but that the queen had been
serrations which fell from some Uenlemen, when grievously ill-treated—almost from the very day that
he recollected the sentiments they had expressed she had married the King—(Hear hear!).—He had 00
on a former occasion ; they were perfectly consisteut doubt hat that a vast conspiracy had been formed agalast
In the line they tick. He would beg, however, ber.—(Hear, hear!).—Vet he was not prepared to is;
to make one observation, in answer to a Cieutleman that the priure firri case made out did not call torsos*
(Mr. Williams). 'I hat tientleman said, suppose answer from her Majesty. When that answer droold
the two Houses of Parliament should pronounce
be satitsfacturilyh given, t.• .1.1, and not till then, would he
• leer picture is the Loaned Chamber. He
her Majesty guilty, how lamentable then will be agreerreuld theprefacore more as an amendment, that the words
the condition of the Corporation ? He conceived o r-omulon Council Chamber" be left out of the &so-
that their situation would not be lamentable; they lotion.
would, on the contrary, be placed in a dignified and Mr. Favau. thought, that after the Resolution which
the Court hail come to—after having gratefully received
honourable condition [ sear!], whilst the two Houses
the picture of her Majesty, the .ttstenchnent of his friend
of Parliament would be themselves in a lamentable
measure. The Committee might
a
and degraded situation [hear, hear:]. Looking at the
;Link it to hang upn extraordinary
the picture is the most obscure part
evidence that had been given, and those
by whom it of OttilJliall; would the Court agree to that i—Would
was given—looking to the bribes and threats that they sot rather, having accepted her Majesty's picture,
were held out against her Majesty—and, in short, to give it the most honourable place?
all the circumstances of this extraordinary and re- Mr. Dixost said, they were asked to vete that the
rolling case, he would say, that even should both *ism shmiti oe placed in the Council Chamber
Houses of Parliament decide against her Majesty, it
ocwitleent knowing the size of it, or the space It might
would not alter, in the slightest degree, his opinion 1 Ilr. faesitsom said, they were called on to suspend
of her Majesty'. cordite' (hear, hear I—it would not i their judgments, heehaw a prime /ode goose was ends
remove the deep impression of her innocence which I out ; bet his reply was this—that seeing the Court 100
he felt [hear, hear!]. An honourable Heutletnan had unconstitutional and unjust, no argument mold arise
'talked of an impression going abroad that her Mir l'as to the et:ideal*. eon before it. He objected to the
.
jrsty will out guilty. Who was afraid of that ire- ti;Ant
leol,ertlnseett, because it was inconsistent with all the Re-
ttion,s tney had formerly
passed, but, with the Rego.
pression ; and who doubted but that it was already I lotion they had passed that day. They had accepted
deeply made on the public mind ? [hear, hear.] The I, the honourable tribute which her Majesty paid them,'
Court had that impression (hear 1. On this subject • and lie was Gee that if the Amendment were pressed to
there was hut one generous feeling pervading the a division, and if that amendment should be carried, it
'whole kingdom [cheers]. would be carried only on this ground, that the Coarsen-
dment in
.w mit ie entirely cencerred.—They would I
The yiestion was then put and carried, almost ask. tertained the highest opinion of the Committee--a sew.
nimously ; four or fise hands having been only held up
exalt the picture of her Majesty ia the highest plan of
against it. • Ammar torisillesinceel by any question which might be
Mr. Alderman W•trismart next came forward, and pending before an noconstitutional tribusaL
moved, that the Lord Mayor be requested to convey The Loan Mattis said, that if the tientleman meant
to her Majesty the thanks of the Court to call the highest tribunal in the country an unconsti.
.
The Loan Marisa, with winch agitation, rose. He
tntiosaltri banal, he would not sit there to bear such ex-
said that he did not think such a motion would have f e Hr. Pumas said, that his Lordship most have 'Wa-
imea put. The Coed knew what his sentiments were reedmowd Me eiesidhit t that tetheasi, however high
they would, he hoped, *cow him. Though he had 1111111nerciSiag foredoom which the constitution had set
abstained from giving an opinion before, he wouldn't, OM* to it ; it was therefore tanconatitotionaL He did
gay, that he considered the measure both mania, aid son deny their high fanctiens, or their competency to
officious. The question was now under the Wefts tlieeherlie their ilstiee, hilt Al acted " this 111•IrY as
decision of the High Court of Parliament. and pendhig pieeestlietleesl tribentl. Se had net said soy
tilnellist was trot Heady expressed la • the Itneletiews
that investigation, he thought it was nut advisable for a titcet,t_(Hct. certain woman wore reed.)
the Corporation to interfere.l The Less Mans Ind that the "spineless they
Mr. Fat KLI. would not wish to force any thingsmille eanseined wove very diffseent from doom mod hr Ili.
Lord Mayer that would be distressing to his teases 8 hem&
but he considered this a serious gamine of pritilea Nth Melanesia W Amman I. GPM{ Oa 11011100
lie tend wet het seespisis obllte large, he.
The Lord Mayor bad a duty to perfuming! he s
air thilegbe 041. .wore a (Wiled. w ifrapes
Ile called on to perform it. tie had. In desky the right .11.116.7 1111111.11"1"" HMI "464 or" 11101
M give his *pieces is that mutt, but el PODS II all ilia jest wail, 0.. V Owe issupapiese mew OD 06 al-
l'esart had decided. that derides wee not to beowaliag• i holds ass wait li, in need. illd insilit at 4164' I
dthe opines of the Lewd Mayer. hilt ales Cesvessies I silliiik.
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