The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-05-06 00:00:00

LOCAL NEWS

We perceive from a Glasgow paper that the Rev. Hugh
Crichton of the Scotch Secession Church, Mount-pleasant,
in this town, has bad the degree of D.D. conferred upon him
by the University of Glasgow.
THE NIGER EXPEDITION.-A letter has been received in
this town, dated Ascension, March 9, from which we take
the following extract :—The Albert left the Fernando Po on
the 18th of December. We called at Prince's, St. Thomas's,
and Anabona, and arrived here on the 28th of January. Dr.
IT6gel, the botanist, died at Fernando Po on the 17th of De-
cember. lam going in the Wilberforce to Fernando Po to
join the Soudan, and go up the river again. We will sail to-
morrow. I believe the Albert is coming home.

THEFT FROAI A SHOP.—Two girls, Jane Jones and Jane
Roberts, were yesterday charged at the police-court with
stealing a pair of stays. About nine o'clock, the prisoners
went into the shop of Mr. Hayes, Park-lane, and looked at
some stays, which they said would not suit them. On their
going out the person in attendance observed that Roberts
looked rather bulky, and", on detaining her, he found the
stays in her apron. They were worth 3s. 6d. Both pri-
soners were committed for trial at the sessions.

TESTIMONIAL OF ESTEEM.—On Saturday last, a party of
gentlemen sat down to an excellent dinner at the Monk's
Ferry Hotel, when a piece of plate, as a token of esteem,
was presented to John Dixon, Esq., civil engineer, who has
just left the situation on the Chester and Birkenhead Rail-
way, which he has filled with great satisfaction since its
opening. The plate consists of an octagon-shaped tea-kettle,
engraved in compartments, in the style of the time of Queen
Elizabeth, supported on a richly-pierced piedal stand, in the
centre of which is a lamp for burning spirit of wine. On
one side is the following inscription :—" This well-merited
tribute of respect, presented to John Dixon, Esq., civil
engineer, by the contractors, officers, and servants generally,
of the Chester and Birkenhead Railway, as an humble token
of their regard for him as a master and admiration as a man.
April 30th, 1842." And in a shield on the obverse side are
engraved the arms of Mr. Dixon.

FRENCH LANGUAGE AND THE HARP.—There never was 1
a period when elegant acquirements were more valued, and,
we may add, valuable, than at the present day. On exten-
sive information and high accomplishment may be said to
depend success in life ; for whether a person be rich in the
gifts of fortune or otherwise, his or her position in society
must depend mainly on those qualities which the world has
been taught so highly to value. This direction of the general
taste into the right channel is becoming every day more and
more determinate, and hence high cultivation is becoming
still more essential. Amongst the accomplishments which
are at once useful and ornamental, are those indicated at the
head of this paragraph, the language of France being abso-
lutAy necessary, while a knowledge of the harp may be
looked upon as one of the most elegant acquirements of which
a lady can become possessed. It is no disparagement to the
piano to say, that it is the more general instrument, but, for
that very reason, to play well on the harp is the greater dis-
tinction. In connexion with a subject of so much interest
• to those classes to whom high accomplishments are absolute
necessaries we have great pleasure in mentioning the name
of Professor Barre De Ballicourt, who teaches the harp on
the method adopted by the celebrated Bochsa. Mr. De
Ballicourt's capability as an instructor in French is highly
spoken of.
MR. POPJOY ON MANNEns !—We are requested by Mr.
Popjoy to notice the indecent practice, so common amongst
our juvenile dandies, of sticking their hands, whilst prome-
nading Lord-street and Bold-street, into the back pockets of
their coats, and protruding in the face of modest people that
unsightly portion of the body which all civilized nations have
concurred, in devising fashions, to conceal. The laps of a
modern coat were meant to hang down, not to be drawn
aside, as if for the express purpose of showing how like a
human being can make himself to a barn door fowl in moult-
ing time, or a pigeon which has lost its tail in a trap. Insert
your hands, young gentlemen, in your waistcoat pockets, or
breeches pockets, if you like; but do permit the skirts of
your coats to serve the purposes for which they . ',.wised,
viz., to cover that part of the body which, although " the
seat of honour," is not, certainly, a spectacle of grace and
beauty !

CHARLESTON LAW AED BRITISH LAw.—Several sea-
men of the British ship Ann Hall, who were committed to
prison at Charleston, in February last, at the instance of the
British consul, for having seized and confined the master
with hand-cuffs and a strait jacket, under pretence that he
was intoxicated or insane, were recently brought before the
Hon. Jacob Axson, Recorder of Charleston, on a writ of
habeas corpus to obtain their discharge. His Honour de-
livered his opinion, discharging the prisoners, on the ground
that in the absence of any treaty stipulation to that effect be-
tween this country and Great Britain, there was no autho-
rity to arrest or retain them as fugitives from justice. If
such is Charleston law, it is very much like British law, as
exemplified in the case of the slaves of the Creole. If Ame-
rican courts have no right to detain British subjects for
crimes committed on board of British vessels, then by parity
of reasoning, British courts have no right to detain Ameri-
can subjects for crimes committed on board American ves-
sels.—New York Journal of Commerce, April 14.
FRIGHTFUL ACCIDENT ON THE CHESTER AND BIRKEN-
HEAD RAILWAY.-011 Tuesday evening on one of the last
trains quitting Chester, the number of inside places was
found too few to accommodate all the persons applying for
tickets on the line. Several, in consequence, mounted to the
top. The train proceeded, and all went on safely till within
a short distance of Sutton, when one of the most tragical
events occurred which we have had to record in connexion
with railroad travelling. On the outside of one of the car-
riages was a party of young men, one of whom, in some man-
ner elevated himself so that his head came in contact with
one of the bridges, before lie could perceive the danger; and
in an instant his skull was dashed to pieces, and his blood
was spattered on his fellow-passengers.. He was killed on ,
the spot. An inquest was held on view of the body yester-
day, before Mr. Churton, the coroner for South Cheshire,
when the following rather extraordinary verdict was returned :
" Died from accident, but Of what nature there was no evi-
dence to show." We certainly anticipated a heavy deodand
on the carriage from what we have heard of the circumstances.
Several persons were present at the inquiry who witnessed
the accident, but for some reason they were not called. The
deceased was a solicitor of the name of Thistleton, in prac-
tice in this town, and was, we are credibly informed, per-
fectly sober all the time.
ANOTHER DISCOVERY BY THE " LIVERPOOL TIMES."—
The stream of inane twaddle which ordinarily dribbles from the
pen of our enlightened contemporary, the Liverpool Times,
has this week been obstructed by the fume into which our
remarks of Friday appear to have thrown him, or by the cruel
necessity of displaying to his readers that he is able to retart
upon an opponent without the necessity of resorting to the
kennel for his weapons. Whatever be the cause, however,
the effect has been most singular. Having no leisure to be-
stow upon any sublunary affairs besides our unworthy selves
and his own unhappy temper, he has been compelled to draw
upon imagination for matter to dole out to the numerous ad-
mirers of his profundity ; and, amongst other marvellous dis-
coveries, has produced the following, which will be news to
those mere terrestrial beings who have not the sublimated
perceptions enjoyed by the inhabitants of the seventh heaven,
amongst whom our contemporary has evidently been sojourn-
ing. Under the heading of " The Income Tax," the Times
remarks This delightful measure progresses (as the
Americans say), if not very fast. at least quite fast enough.
All its most grinding clauses have been agreed to, with the
single exception of that whiCh Compelled a map engaged in
two businesses, one profitable and the Other lotipg, to pay
on the profits of the one, without any allosianceAor the losses
of the other, With much difficulty ministers have been in-
duced to give up this point, and to allow persons so situated
to pay on the average gains (if there are any) of the two bu-
sinesses. Several other proposefl amendments, and amongst
ti"epi one moved by Mr. Itoehncic, fcr the purpose of making
the ,per centage paid by perions in trade lighpr.than that paid
by owners of realized' property, 'have been rejected b'' large
majorities."—The whole of this statement, with the excep-
tion of the last paragraph, at the time When it was penned
was sheer imagination. The" delightful measure" in ques-
tion had not progressed fast, and did not begin to progress
fast until Monday night, too late lc: the Times, with all his
peculiar sources of information, to be ::ware of the fact.
The " grinding clause," which " compelled' a map engaged
in two businesses, one profitable and the other losing, to pay
on the profits of the one, without any allowance fox the losses
of the other," had not "with
.much; difficulty been given up"
by the ministry ; and that simply
,because no sueh clause
ever existed in the bill. It was never proposed by this
measure that persons having more than one ktainiess or pro-
fession should pay upon more than their " average gains ;"
and hence the injustice of the requirement, upon which we
remarked last week, that a man having a business which
would come under Schedule D, and property under any other
schedules, is not allowed to set his gains irom one against
his losses in the other. With respect to this, which is doubt-
less the point at which our sublimated contemporary was
aiming, it will be seen, by the debate on Monday, that, in
reply to a question from Mr. B. Wood, by whom it was first
brought before the especial notice of the house, Sir Robert
Peel intimated, that although he had, according to his pro-
mise, " taken the subject into consideration, he was bound
to say that he did not think that he could accede to the pro-
pmiition 2.f the honourable member." So much for the pro-
fundity and qccuracy of the Liverpool Times!
THE LGREjIIONT 87.7EAM-FACKET COMPANY.—In the
Vice-Chancellor's Court a motion was made on Tuesday on
behalf of Laycock and others, iron merchants of this town,
to dissolve an injunction which had beeil issued against them
last January, (on the motion of Mr. Vinent, an attorney
in London,) restraining theth from contracting' any debts or
liabilities, ox,entering into any engagements in the 'name or
on account of the ggretriont 'Steam-paCket Company. The
material circumstances detailed in the case were given fully
in the evidence in a recent ;dal at the last assizes in this
town, brought by Messrs. Page and Grantham against Mr.
Vincent. The bill in Chancery, filed by Mr. Vincent, prayed
for the injunction above stated, and also fOr '..40 dissolution
of th,e company and the winding up of its affairs in the usual
manner After hearing counsel, his honour said, it Wa.s
plain, upon the face of the affidavit upon which the injunc-
tion had been gratAted, that pains had been taken to show as
stinted a knowledge as possible of the affairs of the company.
It was important that parties applying for an injunction
should state all the circumstance,— within their knowledge, in

order that the court might have an opportunity of judging
whether the injunction should he granted pr, parte or on
notice. Jp this case he thought the plaintiff 5b...-Aild have
stated two notices which he had received in July and eatta-
her, 1841, which were set forth in the answer of the defend-
ants, but of which no one word appeared in the plaintiff's
affidavit.; and it watild have, .been but fair to the defendants
that those notices should have berm stated.; for if they had
'been stated, his honour would not haze granted the injunc-
tion e,z, parie. It appeared to him essential" to the cause of
justice, and especially to that delicate species of justice which
related to ,the granting of injunctions, that the case should
be fully stated to the ,enurt. In the present instance this had
not been done, and
he was ,bound by that rule, by whiCh he
had, ever since he had administered this branch of the juris-
diction of the court, acted, and by which he should always
act,—he was bound, be repeetecl) ;to spy that the injunction
must be dissolved with 6000,

FORGED WILLS.—OU Tuesday Mr. Rusiato„ .
pied, in the Police Court, with hearing some further evidence
as to the forged wills of John Kenney and Robert Wilson,
both mariners; but the prisoners in both cases were remanded.
COTTON.—A large import of this staple commodity is ex-
pected to arrive this month. We perceive, from our usual
circular, that not less than twenty vessels arrived with this
article yesterday.

WASHINGTON IRVING.—This gentleman was one of the
passengers by the Independence, from New York to this
port, wich arrived here on Tuesday morning, but he land-
ed at Waterford and proceeded to Bristol by steam, and
from thence to London, and has thus frustrated the inten-
tions of his friends and admirers as to the honours intended
to be shown him in this town.

A PASSENGER DROWNED AT SEA.—We are requested to
state, that George B. Bedford, supposed to, belong to some
part of the South of England, was a passenger in the sh;p
Susquehanna, on her recent voyage from Philadelphia to Li-
verpool, and that when she was about ten days out he fell
ovurboard and was drowned.

STEALING FROM A CART.—A man named Thomas Wil-
liams was yesterday charged, before Mr. Rushton, with bay-
ing stolen a loaf of sugar, the property of Richard Taylor and
Sons, from a cart containing a quantity of the article, as it
was passing along York-street. He made off with it, but
was overtaken in Pitt-street, and given into custody, The
prisoner said he had only taken it as a lark. He was commit-
ted for trial. _ . .

ST. SAVIOUR'S CHURCH.—We understand that, in the
course of next month, a bazaar will be held for the purpose
of obtaining funds towards liquidating the debt on St.
Saviour's Church; and that the Town Council have granted
the use of the Exhibition-rooms for that purpose.
CAUTION.—HAWKING ARTICLES OF BASE COIN METAL
FOR COIN.—At the Police-court yesterday, a young man
was charged with selling to a gentleman a small chain and a
seal attached, for gold, and for which he received 10s. Tl•ey
afterwards turned out to be merely brass. The prisoner . d
no hawker's license, and was committed to prison for a
month as an unlicensed pedlar.

SHORT WEIGHTS.—CAUTION TO BUTCHERS, -PROVIS ON
DEALERS AND OTHERS.—Yesterday, about thirty butch-
ers, provision dealers, and others, were brought by summons
before John Shaw Leigh, Esq., the Mayor, in the Sessions-
house, to answer charges preferred against them respectively
by Mr. Atkinson, inspector of weights and measures, for
having defective scales, or short weights, in their places of
business. They were all fined in various penalties of
ls., ls. Gd., 25., 55., and 205., together with costs, and the
Mayor, in imposing them, strongly reprehended the practice,
by which the poor especially were defrauded to a great ex-
tent ; and he cautioned them to adopt a different course of
dealing for the future, intimating that their conduct would
be strictly watched by the proper officers. Several of tliem
pleaded various excuses, some alleging that they had never
used the short weights seized on their premises ; others that
the defective state of their scales was counterbalanced by
penny pieces, bits of iron, &c., invariably put into the light
scale ; others, that they were altogether ignorant of the defi-
ciency, and so forth, but his worship over ruled the defences
set up in every instance, proportioning the fines, as far as
possible, to the several grades of offence. We had prepared
a list of the offenders, but forbear publishing it, in hopes
that the present exposure will put a stop to such a fraudu-
lent practice.
ST. MARTIN'S CHURCH.—We understand that a proposi-
tion will be submitted to the Town Council to-morrow, by
the Church Eipenditure Committee, for a reduction in the
rents of the pews of St. Martin's Church.—[Alluding to
this proposition, Popjoy says that the definition of Puseyism
in Liverpool is, high church and low rents.]
We beg to call the attention of our readers to an adver-
tisement in our columns of this day, announcing the time
of the anniversary sermons and meetings of the Church
Missionary Society in Liverpool. We understand that ener-
getic exertions have been lately made elsewhere to make up
the deficiency in the society's funds—a deficiency in a great
measure caused by the annually increasing extent of the so-
ciety missions—and we trust this town will not be backward
in this good work, and that the approaching anniversary will
bear testimony to the growing liberality of Liverpool towards
this invaluable society.

EXTRAORDINARY ESCAPE OF A CHILD.—On Monday
morning last, a son of police-officer Moran (who attends daily
on the magistrates at the Police-court), of a little more than
three years old, was left by himself for a short time in a room
on the second floor of his father's house, in Richardson's-
buildings, Park-lane; and seeing some children playing in
the street, he by some means got up to the window, probably
on to a table, and overbalancing himself, fell down upon the
flags in the street below. A crowd immediately gathered,
thinking he could not long survive the shock, the height
being 14 or 15 feet. Strange to say, however, not even a
scratch or a bruise was to be found upon him, and he has
since been in his usual health, and has attended school as
usual !

The ship Shannon, Capt. Harrison, from Mobile, arrived
here late last night, and from one of the passengers we have
learned that she spoke the following vessels :
April 23. British Queen, from Liverpool to Miramachi, in
lat. 41 10 N., long. 49 20 W.
26. Caledonia steamer, from Liverpool to Halifax and
Boston, in lat. 44 59, long. 33 45.
28. Witton Castle, from London to Prince Edward's
Island, in lat. 46 35, long. 27 30.
May 1. Glengarry, from Savannah to Liverpool, in lat. 49
32, long. 18 25.
2. Elizabeth, from Charleston to Liverpool, in lat. 50,
long. 15.
5. Acadia, at 5 a.m., off Bardsey.

DEATH FROM APOPLEXY ON BOARD A STEAM PACKET.
An inquest was yesterday held before Mr. Curry, the
borough coroner, on view of the body of William Fisher,
who was by trade a rigger. The deceased had been to Bel-
fast, which he left on Tuesday afternoon, coming as a pas-
senger by the Falcon steamer. On the arrival of the vessel
at this port on Wednesday morning, at two o'clock, he was
found lying dead on a coal bunker on board. A post mortem
examination of the body was made, and the surgeon gave it
as his opinion that he bad died from sanguinous apoplexy.
There were no marks of violence, and the jury returned a
verdict to the effect that the deceased died from natural
causes—namely apoplexy.
A Cum) OVERLAIN.—An inquest was held yesterday,
before Mr. Curry, touching the death of Martha Ann M.
Mitchell, an• infant. The deceased had been taken to bed
with her parents, who live in Virgil-street, and on Wednes-
day morning was found dead in bed, having, it appeared,
been overlain. The jury returned a verdict of " Accidental
death."

DEATH BY DROWNlNG.—Yesterday an inquest was held
before Mr. Curry, borough coroner, on view of the body of
James Sherratt. The deceased, who was 37 years of age,
was returning home on Tuesday night from the races, at
Chester, and took passage across the Mersey by the Eden-
borough Woodside steam-boat. On the arrival of the packet
at George's Pier, about ten o'clock, while be was stepping
on shore, being a little intoxicated, he fell into the water. A
boat-hook was immediately handed to him, but he could not
avail himself of it, and sunk almost instantly. The body
was got out in a few minutes, and conveyed to the receiving
house, where the usual means were resorted to to restore
animation, but without avail. The jury returned a verdict of
" Accidental death." The deceased was the son of Mrs.
Etty Taylor, of St. John's Market, by her first husband.
MR. WEISS' CONCERT.—Mr. Weiss' Concert took place
last evening at Lasselle's Room, at which we had an oppor-
tunity of hearing Mr. Willoughby Weiss, the new Basso,
who made his first appearance before his townsmen. We
had heard the most flattering opinions of this gentleman's
powers, and we may say that, instead of being disappointed,
our expectations have been more than realized. Mr. Weiss
studied for a short time under Sir George Smart; he then
placed himself under Mr. Balfe, with whom he has been for
the last six months in Paris. We quoted the opinions of
the Paris papers on the debutant's singing ; and, when now
we give our own, we may safely say that our town may be
proud of the young artist. His voice is really a true bass—
in compass it exceeds two octaves—his intonation is perfect—
his execution brilliant, if we may use the term, in the
manaiement of any voice so ponderous. His power is ex-
traordinary, while his tones are full, sonorous, and clear ; in
fact, the musical world have received a great, a very great ac-
quisition, and if he has health,' and strength; and perseveres,
we may at some day not far distant name him as the first
bass singer that England has produced for years. Mr. Weiss
is but 22 years old. We have scarcely met with so much
promise of excellence with such a chance of fulfilment. Mr.
Balfe may pride himself upon his pupil. In the first part of
the concert Mr. Belle and Mr. Weiss sang Balfe's duet from
Falstaff, which has been so much extolled in fJondon and
Paris. It was encored enthtiiiastidallY, Bello Ardir,"
sang also by Mr. Weiss, gave great delight ; as did the air
from the •• Stabat Mater ;"—this was loudly 'encored.
Madame Balfe sang a fine aria of her husband's "La
Speranga." Mr. Balfe gave from M.S. a new ballad, but
we cannot say much of its merits.—lt was encored.
The composer sang a very graceful ballad, entitled " The
Blighted Flower"—this was encored. iMr. Dodd sang
Lee's ballad of " Woman Love ye Best "—it was honoured
with an encore. Mrs. and Miss St. Albin played a de-
lightful duett of Czerney's on two piano-fortes. This ap-
peared to give gFeat satisfactipp. Mrs. St. Albin played
ufterWai•ds' th 9 arr. from !Giovanni (arranged by Thal-
berg) with her usual grace, execution, and skill. We hear
too little of thiS' admirable Altogether we may
pronounce this concert to have been a most excellent one, and
every one present seemed to be delighted.' The 'room was
comfortably full. We noticed tliat members of all the
leading families in the town were present, and appeared to
take mush pleasure In Mr. Weiss 's success. Mr. Weiss
appears net in Dublin with Miss Adelaide Kemble and
party.

Mr. I. N. Wigney,'s library was sold on Wednesday in 16
lots, and fetched the enormousitim'of 5 Ms,' We under-
stand Mr. Wigney said, " he did not spend his money on
such trash as hooks."—Brighton Gazette:
PAISLEY RACES.—The Paisley race committee have an.
nouneed; th 4, in consequence of the great commercial and
manufacturing distress pv felt, there will be no meeting
this year in Paisley.
PAISLEY.—Messrs. Hastie Oswald, and Johnston, mem-
bers of parliament.; have remitted' to the pfpVost of Paisley
£1,00,6 53. 4cl. which they received frdm gentlemen in Cal-
cutta, lqadras, anal Bombay, in aid of the fund for the relief
of the distressed operatives of Paisley.
The Larl of Wicklow will be honoured with the riband of
the order of St. Patrick, vacant by the death of Lord Shan-
non, The Earl of Bandon will succeed Lord Shannon as
lord lieutenant of the county of Cork.
A respite has been received by the Governor of Chester
Castle, from the Home Secretary, deferring the execution of
Robert Sandys, who was left for execution for having
poisoned his child at Stockport, during her Majesty's
pleasure.

TIIE LAW OF COPYRIGHT.--A HINT FOR LORD MAHON.
—The New York papers contain an advertisement, intimat-
ing that, on April the sth, " an extra quadruple Brother
Jonathan" (which, for the information of the world, is a Yan-
kee newspaper somewhat larger than the double Herald)
" will be published at the price of 25 cents. (Is.), for the pur-
posg, of giving in a complete form the whole of Sir E. L. Bul-
wer.'s last nei novel, Zanoni.' " The American public are
informed that ` this will also be a rare opportunity for per-
sons wishing to forward their country friends the latest and
most popular novel of the day, 'as the postage can be only from
3to 41 cents to any part of the union." So here is pulwer's
last new work selling in England for Ll lls. Gd., and pub-
lished in New York at Is. I

BRITISH AND FOREIGN BIBLE SOCIETY.—On Wednes-
day the annual. meeting of this society took place at Exeter-
hail, Lord Bexley in the chair; and amongst those present
were the Earl of Harrowby, the Marquis of Cholmondeley,
the Earl of Chichester, Lord Glene4; Lord Sandon, Lord
Teignmouth, the Bishops of ClieSter,' Chichester. Peter-
borough, Winchester, Wand NorWieh, Sir T. D. Acland, the
Dean of Salisbury, The noble Chairman having
briefly addressed the meeting, called upon the secretary
to 'read the report of the proceedings of the last year,
fro which it appeared that the total amount
received *during the year, applicable to the' general
objects of the soael, including subscriptions, dona-
tions, legacies', dividers s on
_ptncjc, and contributions of
auxiEary societies, was £44,640 11s. nd., ',which, compared
with the receipts of the foimer year, shows an increoe f
and the total amount'
£1,300 17s. The amount received from 'the Sale of pibleDb
£95,095 4s. titl: The' number of •Cop-e
and I', staments wa5'.£50,204 14s. 10d.,
from all sources
issued by the society from the Same depository was 584 5414 s
and from the depots abroad 231,007. Total issues du'ring'
and The total number of copies issued
the year, 815,551,
since the commencement Of the society
amounts to •
14,038,934.

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FINANCE COM

Mr. RADCLIFFE, jun. read the pro,
mittee. It appeared that there had been a
by the corporation on account of the purchase n
eithead property to Mr. Leonard Addison (of the Ls.
Standard-office), of £4476, to Mr. John Lowe, as trust.
of William Leonard Lace, £904 ; to Mr. John Addison of
£9Ol )3s. 4d. ; and to Dr. Grindiod, £4,000. The proceed-
ings also comprised an application from the surveyor for

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additional assistance in his office.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE, in moving the confirmation of the
proceedings, said there was nothing in them to which he
need draw the particular attention of the council, unless it
was the application of the surveyor for additional assistance
in his office. In that application he concurred, not without
some reluctance, however, because he felt the full force of
the objection to adding to the burdens of the corporation ;
but he had come to the conclusion that the application was '
just, and he asked the council to concur in it, not for the
purpose of conferring a favour upon the surveyor, or of re-
lieving him in the duties which he discharged so well, and
so much to the satisfaction of the council, but in order to do
justice to the corpoate estate itself, and to facilitate those
several plans of imkrovement which the council was pledged
to carry into effect. During the last six months he had had
many opportunities of seeing the interior of the surveyor's
office, and he knew that the great pressure of business there
was inseparable from the increase of the town, and the im-
portance of the corporate estate. He thought the surveyor
was considerably under handed at the present moment,
although he devoted the whole of his time to his duties, and
the subordinates in the office did the same. They were there
from nine till seven; yet an increase in the staff was requi-
site. There were in the office three persons, besides the
surveyor, receiving salaries of £l5 a year, and he had had
the assistance of Mr. Parry, who had been out of his time
since July, and who had received no salary whatever from
the council. He (Mr. L.) proposed then that a salary of
£lOO a year be granted to Mr. Parry, and that the surveyor
should have permission, when he could find an eligible per •
son, to engage an additional clerk, at a salary of £l5O per
annum. Less assistance than that, if the pressure of busi-
ness continued as it was, would not be sufficient ; but it
would be well understood, that if the pressure were removed,
the person whom it was now contemplated to add to the
office, would be the first person to be discharged. With
these remarks he begged to mdve the confirmation of the
proceedings.
Mr. HouGwros seconded the motion.
Mr. BRIGHT inquired whether it was proposed that Mr.
Parry should receive salary from July last ?
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE replied he had not proposed that ;
but it would be for the council to say what they wished in
that respect.
Mr. LLOYD said that with regard to the assistance now
required in the snrveyor's office, lie should only be doing his
duty to the council, as well as to the public, by stating what
bad taken place in a committee where the assistance of the
surveyor and his staff was much required. He alluded to
the Courts of Law Committee. The subject of the assist-

ante required by the surveyor had been mooted in that com-
mittee, and he then thought it his duty to state a rumour
which prevailed generally in the town that the assistants in
the surveyor's office did not devote their whole attention to
their duty to the public, but that they engaged in private
pursuits. He knew it himself indeed ; for it had come to
his own knowledgemore than once. (Hear, hear.) The
office was one where the fullest assistance ought to be given,
and it was not for the consideration of an additional £l5O a
year that a large estate like that ought to suffer. (Near.)
He entertained the greatest respect for the surveyor, and he
admitted that the fullest assistance ought to be afforded to
that gentleman in his department, and he added that the
committee of which he was a member had been kept waiting
for plans from the surveyor's office since last November, and
that they had been as yet unfurnished. (Hear.) He should
follow up these observations by an amendment, that the pro-
ceedings be not confirmed, so far as they relate to the giving
of additional assistance to the surveyor; and he intimated
his intention of further moving that a committee be appointed
for the purpose of inquiring into that and other departments
in which the council had reason to expect that the whole of
the time of the assistants was not devoted to the public
service.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said the corporation had a per-
fect right to the services of these men from nine in the morn-
ing till seven in the evenings, but lie did not know whether
they could prevent them from making anything in the time
beyond that. All their services, however, between nine and
seven belonged to the corporation, and he understood that
they were given. He had heard that one, and only one, Mr.
Kilpin, might make something beyond his salary, in his own
time, but Mr. Robinson did not. And after all, what was
their salary ? It was only £l5O a year—a sum so triffingthat
how could they expect a clerk to live respectably out of it ?
Mr. BIRKETT.—Then increase it.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE, in continuation, said lie bad no
objection to the proposed committee, but he trusted the
council would grant the assistance requiste for the service of
the estate. Do not let them throw an imputation on the sur-
veyor by refusing it.
Mr. LLOYD threw no imputation whatever upon the sur-
veyor. If there was talent in the office he wished it to be
paid, but at the same time lie wished it to be given to the
corporation, who were entitled to it. The statement he had
made now had not been made without calling the surveyor
before the committee, and he then stated to the committee
that he had his suspicions.
The MAYOR believed the surveyor himself had been allowed
to furnish the plans of a public buiding, but he had not been
permitted to receive any remuneration.
Mr. PLATT thought the case, as made out by Mr. Lloyd,
was one of the very best arguments for increasing the salary
of the clerks in the surveyor's office. If they devoted their
services to the corporation from nine in the tnorning until
seven at night it was as much as any reasonable man could

expect.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE suggested that the inquiry should
be referred to the Finance Committee, but that temporary
assistance sliee:d be granted as it really was required.
Mr. HODGSON said the chairman of the Finance Commit-
tee had not shown why the corporation were not entitled to
all the time of their servants, because they paid every per-
son for their services. He agreed with Mr. Lloyd that it was
important that all doubt be removed on this subject ; but he
could not agree with the chairman of the Finance Committee
that the services of the persons to be employed by the sur-
veyor, so long as those services were not superabundant,
ought to be given to any private purposes whatsoever, be-
cause they were entitled, not merely to the services pf stated
hours, but to such an exertion of mind as would not allow
them to do any duty but that to the corporation, because the
corporation could afford to keep them fully occupied. But if
the corporation were in a bankrupt state, either of feeling or
money, and could not afford to pay them for their services,
they must let them work for others, but the corporation were
not in that condition ; whatever remuneration was proper
and fitting they were enabled to give to the full extent, and in
return they called for the full dedication of the services of
their servants to them. The Improvement Committee the
other day were called npon us to some property without an
adequate report from the surveyor. He did not blame the
surveyor for this; and if his time was so occupied 04 the
committee could not have the benefit of his assistance, the
council must see that adequate means were supplied to him,
but at the same time all the persons in the office must giVe
the whole of their services to the corporation. He thought,
after the statement made by Mr. Lloyd, thatit would be well
for the Finance Committee to make themselves thoroughly
acquainted with the fact as to whether the clerks in the de.
partment devoted their time to the discharge of the necessary
business or not.
Mr. Alderman Evasis said that all who were versed in the
modern history of this country would recollect a remark made
by Sheridan at the time of the mutiny at the Nore. He ob-
served " this is no time tor going into disputes about what
ought hereafter to be done, but we should save the fleet."
Now it was quite obvious whether they had the whole time
of the gentlemen in the surveyor's office or not, that even if
they had it, they required extra aid under the present pres-
sure. It was, therefore, the duty of the council instantly to
order temporary assistance, and then leeve 1-110Y4 anll
othergentlemen who had any cause of complaint to institn4l theirinquiries. He was aware of the pressure upon the 'sift!:
veyor, because one of the committee;to Which he hail th° hO:
nour to belong, had for the last nine mohtlis been' asking for
plans for the new 'market in' Gill-street ; but he had access
constantly to the surveyor's office, where every diligence 'Whi;
at least outwardly, shown ; and he' had not the slighteit
doubt that let what would occur, with regard to the' whole
time of the assistants, they could not dispense with 'tho
the chairmen of the Finance Committe'e had raked .' '
Mr. Alderman will that' Mr. HOcliAi4ls remarke
might cause some misconception ; if they went before the
public without explanation it might appear as if the Ira.
provement Committee had been called upon to decide upon
purchasing property without having had a valuation of it.
This was not the case.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE agaid suggested that the matter
should be referred to the Finance Committee, the proceed-
ings in the meantime to be confirmed.
Mr. MELLOR agreed with Mr. Lloyd. He thought it
preposterous to engage further assistance until they knew
whether the present servants were not sufficient to perform
the necessory duty, and whether they could not discharge
that duty
•
efficiently if they devotetl their whole time.
seconded Mr t.lOyil!s amendment. ~ '
Mr. HENRY. La.wanNca' thought it desirable that their
servants should devote thewhole of their time 'to the services
of the corporation, and not be 'ekingont their income 'by the
doing of other work. ' • •
Mr. LLOYD said the surveyor, in the presence of the com-
mittee, had distinctly stated that he had his suspicions—that
he had a difficulty in• getting work from some, and that he
had, not the same satisfaction from those in his office that he
considered himself Clititted to receive.
Mr. Pnourpn thought, under these circumstances, that
Mr. Lloyd had done no more 'than his duty 'in bridging the
subject before the council. ' (Hear, hear,)
The Terww:ceenn begged '•to be allowed to make an ob-
servation upon this question. It seemed lo him: that the
council had not looked at the question fairly raised upon the
demand of the surveyor himself for assistance. All the di's:
cession that had taken place had applied to the regulation
of the clerks or assistants in the Survey Or's office ; but here
pshte)cloaeSettihvoeSiey
was a demand made by one of the officers of the corm-4144i
assistance. He thought there was not an officer of the
for
corporation Whose' duties were so 'dell established
of the surveyor ; and there could be no eintriejeat:Coodrirepraeotrreaantllipoe'n7.:
iafntmdh err. e
mostiwi earpeaas noyN efficientlyfr
really
aht
ym, a
mswthhsoet dastiaisrycv,heawyrpigtrehtd,
the Town-Clerk, that it was out of order for him toproceed
thus. The Town-clerk had not be p
on the
r.ep ask. ed to "pipem his op}nioq
SitIITII said there was no legal question before
jquoeusNtion.
the council.
unCil .
TOWN-CLERK said he was aware that there was no
legal question before the council, but at the same time he
thought that some courtesy ought to be paid to one officer
when he spoke for the services of another. He thought also
that the councillor who made the objection seemed to have
forgotten the fact that lie (the Town-clerk) did not stand
there merely as a servant or as an ordinary officer of the
corporation, but as a person whose office was recognised in
the charter; and, therefore, he had in that respect a right to
bring forward his views before the council, independent of
any legal capacity upon his part. Such was the notion he
entertained of his office--such was the notion he had ended.
voured to carry out, and such was the notionas
a ra
ofthateelgaoisitpitt
re-
spectable Solibitora of the town-that be w
of the corpoVatiOel thithe was a' Lind of steward ‘of•the cots.
poration, and that' he 'had a right to 'bring 'forward, beyond
what belonged to him in his legal capacity, that which apper:
tained to the good administration of the estate.. He• re,
glAtted to be obliged to allude to this point, but he would
still 'euggeit that the question before the council on thii
occasion Was not immediately as to. the management of the
assistants or elerk.S of the Surveyor, but that it was a eonsi::
deratibn of the request which the surveyor had. himself male,
for additidnal assiStence in his depertMent.• .‘•,.ITP
Mr. Alderman BanceAY, with all 'due deference to the
ToWn-clerk, thought him decidedly wrong iii the' law lie had
laid down for himself. He looked on his duties in the coun..
cif as arduous and responsible, but unless the question were
one of law, or that he was called on to give an opinion, lie
had no right to speak. Upon a question of the present kind,
the Town-clerk had no more right to give his opinion than
why Man out of the council chamber.
Mr. Honosou ventured as a personal friend of the Town-
cleflc's 'to 'Make the observation he had Made, because it could
not be seppoSed tlnit he had 'any other than•a very-kind fee):
i rig towards that 'gentleman. The ToWn-eierk had, howeveh
no vote in the council, and. was not. an acknowledged party
there except for consultation and advice, and 'whew he gave
an opinion without being asked for it, be was trying to infia-
nee the council without right or authority.

Mr. EVANS thought they had better close the discussion
and proceed to business. _ _

Mr. LLOYD then shaped his amendment in nearly the fol-
lowing terms :—That the proceedings of the Finance Com-
mittee be confirmed, so far as authorising them to give such
temporary assistance to the surveyor in his office as they may
deem necessary, and that it be an intimation or instruction
to them to inquire as to the efficient performance of the
duties of all the clerks there employed.

This amendment was agreed 'to:and the proceedings were
confirmed.

WATCLI COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the Watch Committee having been
read, . _

MI". JAMES LAWRENCE moved their confirmation.
Mr. Alder Man EARLE wished to know why a man of the
name of Simmonds had been appointed to the police force?
His attention had been directed to a paragraph in one of the
papers, in which certain statements had been made that led
him to think the appointment of Simmonds a bad one.
Mr. JOHN SMITH.—Read the paragraph.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Sir, I'll do as I like.
Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE asked whether he should answer
the question ?
The MAYOR thought the cou]
notice of paragraphs in the paps
Mr. J. LAWRENCE said the
matter, arid that he was quite read
the question if the council desired

ncil were not bound to take

as nothing secret in the

nd prepared to answer

Mr. Alderman EARLE said it appeared that Simmonds
had taken an important part in the Manchester case of
Hearne v. Stowell, which was about some poor, crazy crea-
ture who had been found crawling in the streets. After the
trial, Manchester became too warm for him, and he came
over to Liverpool, where he made application to the police
committee, but was unable to obtain an appointment in the
force. He had been originally in the Liverpool police force,
but being remonstrated with by the chairman, or committee,
for impropriety of conduct, he became extremely saucy.
It was thereupon recommended that he should resign, in
order that he might not be kicked out of the force, and he
accordingly took the advice and resigned. He 'had been
recently asked, in presence of the committee, how he had
left his wife and family in Manchester, and what he allowed
them to live upon, upon which he, who had been backed by
a whole host of the clergy of the established church, said
that he allowed them 2s. 6d. a-week. He was then cautioned
as to his answer, because it appeared that the allowance was
only 2s. a-week ; but he still persisted, and said at last that
2s. a-week was all that the magistrates had ordered him to
pay. Here, then, was a man, with 18s. a-week, who only al-
lowed his family 2s. a-week ! And was this the man to be
appointed an officer in the police force of Liverpool? If
these statements were not correct, some gentlemen, he dared
say, would tell him so.
Mr. PARKER.—They are not correct.
Mr. EARLE.—I am glad to hear it, because I only asked
for information.
Mr. H. LAWRENCE.---DOeS the name of this individual
occur in the proceedings which have been just read?
Mr. J. LAWRENCE.—Yes; as making the application to
be appointed.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—i think there ought not to be
any screening of such conduct as this, because he was subse-
quently appointed to the force. There is an excellent reso-
lution of the Watch Committee, which says, that no man
shall be appointed under them unless he has a recommenda-
tion from his last employer, or from some one who has a
knowledge of his character; but, in the present case, this
was dispensed with.
Mr. J. LAWRENCE.—No, no.
Mr. EARLE.—That's the only flat contradiction I have
received. (Laughter.) _ _

Mr. PROCTER.—As the man's name is not mentioned in
the proceedings I beg to call Mr. Earle to order.
Mr. EARLE (who read from a newspaper he held in his
hand).—He comes recommended by the Rev. Hugh Stowell,
the Rev. Hugh M'Neile, the Rev. Fielding Ould, the Rev.
William Falloon, the Rev. Dr. Tattersball, the Rev. Thomas
Nolan, and a whole host of others. (Great laughter from the
Radicals.) .
The MAYOR.—As his name is not in the proceedings, we
are only consuming time, because the subject is not before
the council.

Mr. EARLE.—J think I have said enough to induce the
council to inquire how this individual, who allows his family
2s. a-week and receive 18s., came into the police force ?
Mr. J. LAWRENCE.—Am I at liberty to reply ?
The MArou.—l think you have no need to vindicate the
conduct of the committee.

Mr. EARLE.—My end is answered. I have brought the
matter before the public.
The MAYOR.—Yes, you have run the gauntlet; but I
should not have allowed you to do so if I had known your
object. _

Mr. J. LAWRENCE.—The mania now discharging his duty
very much to the satisfaction of the head constable, and his
appointment has been a very credible one. (Hear, hear.)
_ _

Mr. COPELAND.—The head constable told me he was
going on in a very satisfactory manner. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HODGSON.—The appointment was made after due
consideration.
Mr. EARLS
laughter.)
Mr. MELLOR.—As a member of the Watch Committee, I
felt it my duty to oppose the appointment of this man. He
was taken—

—Oh, I am mote than pleased. (Ironical

Mr. A. SMITH, jun. contended, that as Mr. Alderman
Earle had been stopped by the Mayor, Mr. Mellor should be
stopped also. . .

MI% PARKER said that if Mr. Mellor was heard he should
claim the same right.
The MAYOR said he was ignorant of the circumstances or
he should not have allowed Mr. Earle to have gone on ; and
having discovered what they were he should stop Mr. Mel-
lor. The time, however, would come when they could make
auch remarks as they might think fit.

Mr. AlKlN.—Wlien the proceedings of a committee are
read, is it not competent for any member of the council to
ask questions upon them ?
The MAYOR.—Yes, certainly.
Mr. AlErN.—Then Mr. Earle is
them

ng a question upon

Simmonds, does not

Mr. PROCTER.—But the man's nam
appear upon the committee's proceedings
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—WeII, I will bring the matter be-
fore the council in a regular way it it is necessary.
The MAYOR.—Your proper course will be to bring the ap-
pointment before the committee, and if I had known the cir.
cmnstances before I should have stopped you.

;lad you were not sharp

Mr: Mai

Mr. Alderman EARLI
enough to discover them befoi
Mr. AIKIN.—If an appointment is male by the Watch
Committee, is it not competent to bring it before the

council ? :
Mr. BusrtELL,—By special motion.
Mr. J. LAWRENCE.-It seems to be forgotten that the ap-
pointments made by the committee are final, and that the
council have nothing to do with them.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.-I understand the committee
have the power to appoint without any• reference to the

council_
The TOWN-CLERK.—The Watch committee is placed by
the municipal corporations' act on a different footing from
any other committee. The corporation act enacts that there
shall be a Watch committee, and for the council to till up
ihe members of that committee, and then it provides for the
iluties of the committee in the appointment of constables and
other officers. It is different from the appointment of any
other committee ; for instance, it is different from the ap-
pointment of the Finance Committee, which is understood
to be the highest committee we have. The Finance Com-
mittee is appointed under the 70th section, but the appoint-
ment of the Watch Committee is obligatory on the council.
Their duties are provided for by the act, the consequence of
which is. that the Watch Committee have the appointment
of all officers under their charge, and the only control the
council have over the Watch Committee is to refuse the sup-
plies if they think they are improperly required,
Mr. A. SMITH.—I beg to move that we prOpeed to the
consideration of the next subject 00. the paper.
Mr. PARKER.--Mr. Earle 'has made a charge against the
committee, and I rise to'vindicate my own character as one
of the memberS'of that committee.
Thh Itlayon..—You had better not mind him
Zr. MiLLon.—l rise to say a few words.
l4r. PAB.KER.—I shall notsit down if Mr.
lovied to proceed.
Mr. MELLOR.—I think the mayor will admit that have
,
a right to make some, reigiacks upon the proceepie: of the
watch committee.
VAR*Eti.—And he will 4,d, it ako that I have a right
t? make some remarks; ammember of it,
'The kfaut certainly,
fir. P4Migltt—T merely rise—
Mr, PRomß,—Has the gentleman any amendment to

Mliar is al-

propose
Mr. PARKER.—No ; I merely wish to vindicato myself as
having had to do with the appointment of Simmonds.
Mr. J. SMITH.—Let the mayor decide at once whether
Mr. Parker is in order.
The MAYOR.—He may proceed.
Mr. PARKER.—I think that if Mr. Earle had come to the

them. But if they were to go into what might be termed
political services, he thought the Council should give to some
of them advice as to how they were to act, for if they only
took a retrospective view of past proceedings, he should be
glad to learn where that individual was who had not, in the
first instance, discharged the full measure of his political ser-
vice before he gained an appointment ? He (Mr. Gladstone)
did not complain of that—he did not think it was unfair ;if
the man was competent it was quite correct; but if they (the
conservatives) were to be found fault with for such things,
let the Council go boldly into the subject and examine into
past appointments.

_
Mr. PROCTOR said he would state one circumstance con-
nected with the appointment of Simmonds, which he thought
would have some weight with the council. It was the fsct
that he had been employed at one of the public institutions
of the town, namely, the Northern Hospital, since the trial of
" Hearne v. Stowell," where no political feeling was allowed,
and he bore a highly respectable character there.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—The public will judge.
The proceedings were then confirmed.
THE MARKETS' COMMITTEE.

The proceedings of the Markets' Committee were next
read and confirmed.

TOWN-HALL ESTABLISHMENT COMMITTEI

The proceedings of the Town-hall Establishment Com-
mittee, comprising the appointment of Edward Smith, as
porter at the Sessions'-house, in lieu of J. Napier, dismissed,
were also read and confirmed.

EDUCATION COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the Education Committee were next
read. They stated that Miss Ellis, one of the mistresses of
the South School, had been reprimanded for having been
guilty of insubordination, and allowed to remain in the school
on trial; and that Charles Taafe, the second master of the
North School, had been dismissed for having been also guilty
of insubordination. The number in the schools at present
was stated to be as follows :—North, 444 ; South, 467.
Mr. SANDBACH, in the absence of the chairman of the
Education Committee, moved the confirmation of the pro-

ceedings,
Mr. YATES moved, as an amendment, that Mr. Taafe be
not dismissed; and, in support of his motion, read .a memo-
rial which he had been requested by Mr. Taafe to present to
the council. It stated that Mr. Taafe had been six years in
the school, and that he had been dismissed for refusing to
carry into effect certain orders of Mr. Stone, which he be-
lieved had never emanated from the' committee, and for
having answered certain questions put to him by Mr.
Yates. It further stated that the orders of Mr. Stone were
to order all the boys to learn the Church Catechism, and to
go to church on Sundays, and to drive the apprentices who
refused to teach the Church Catechism out of the school
by force and violence. In the memorial a copy of the in-
formation given by Mr. Taafe to Mr. Yates was enclosed.
It stated that Mr. Stone had denied that he wanted the Ro-
man Catholic children to be taught the Church Catechism,
but that he simply wished them to be present in the class
when it was taught. All the rest he tacitly admitted to be
correct. Mr. Taafe was of opinion that he would have been
guilty of an assault if he had turned out the apprentices by
force, and that Mr. -Yates had a perfect right to go to the
school and to make inquiries on the subject of the education
afforded. lie, therefore, humbly hoped that the council
would take his case into consideration and reverse the de-
cision of the committee. In another letter to Mr. Yates,
Mr. Taafe informed him that Mr. Stone's first visit to the
school was only on the 23d of February, although his appoint-
ment had taken place in January or early in February. Mr.
Yates, after having read these several documents, which were
of some length, and included a testimonial from Mr. Nelson,
the late master, as to Mr. Taafe's good conduct,
,said that
the subject was a most important one. Mr. Taafe had been
turned away on two grounds—first, because he refused to
turn the apprentices out of the school as well as refused to
compel them to teach the Church Catechism or to learn it ;
and, secondly, because he had given him (Mr. Yates) the
information he had submitted to a previous council, but
which the council did not hear upon that occasion. He
maintained that Mr, Taafe had done nothing but what he
was bound to do as a man of integrity and a servant of the
corporation—that he had simply answered the questions put
to him, and that the " head and front of his offence" was,
that he had written a letter to him (Mr. Yates) giving him
the required information.
Mr. HoncsoN begged that Mr. Yates would state the
questions which he had put to Mr. Taafe.
Mr. YATES said that he would endeavour to recollect them,
as they had never been reduced to writing. A letter from
Mr. Stone, dated the 10th of March, had been submitted to
the council; and he referred to this letter on the present oc-
casion in order to show that he felt bound to go to the school,
and to make the inquiries. He thought it was the duty of
the Education Committee to make the inquiries themselves.
On the 10th of March Mr. Stone stated that the schools could
not be properly conducted so long as the apprentices were
permitted to absent themselves during the time of religious
instruction : and on the 25th of March there was a statement
brought before the public in the Liverpool Mercury, showing
that the Roman Catholic apprentices had been ordered by
Mr. Stone to teach the Protestant Catechism and to go to
church. These things ought to beveled the Education Com-
mittee to make the inquiries. On the 6th of April the same
statement had been repeated in the council ; and thus there
were three occasions upon which a direct variation of the
rules of the council had been charged on Mr. Stone. The
Education Committee ought not to have lost an hour
in making inquiries which were so important ; but as
they had not done so, he (Mr. Yates) had made the
inquiries himself. He went to the North and South Schools.
At the North School he was met by Mr. Taafe. He told
that individual his name, and that he had come to make
inquiries from him, and he said—" I think it is your duty to
answer those inquiries as I am a member of the council."
Mr. Taafe then answered all the inquiries, as it seemed to
him, very candidly. He asked whether Mr. Stone had or-
dered the Roman Catholic apprentices to teach the Church
of England Catechism and to go to church on Sundays ; and
another was with respect to the attendance of Mr. Stone at
the North School. Mr. Taafe stated, in reply, that Mr. Stone
came regularly to the school on Monday, the day the commit-
tee met there, but that in general he did not come above a
quarter of an hour for each day during the rest of the week. He
(Mr. Yates) thought this was information which ought to be
submitted to the council, and accordingly he brought Mr.
Taafe's letter on the Bth of April. He thought he should
hardly be credited when he said that there was not a single
minute brought before the council as to any inquiry insti-
tuted on the subject of Mr. Stone's conduct, up to the pre-
sent moment, by the committee. He maintained that it was
the duty of the Education Committee to have investigated
most narrowly into charges which affected so deeply the reli-
gious liberties of the apprentices who have been bound to
the corporation. He now called upon the committee to in-
vestigate fully into the charges brought against Mr. Stone.
If they refused so to do, he should move for a committee upon
the subject. He had sent a letter to the Education Committee,
in which he suggested the propriety of their examining the
five apprentices and three of their parents, whose names
he had given them. He now asked the committee whether
they had asked anybody as to the conduct of Mr. Stone—
conduct which, he maintained, was in direct contradiction to
the rules of the council? He entreated the council to direct
their attention to a subject so important. He asked them to
say whether Mr. Taafe could have acted otherwise than he
had done ? and he put the question with the more concern
because lie (Mr. Yates) had been the innocent cause of the
man's dismissal.
Mr. HODGSON. —No.
Mr. YATES.—The words set'forth in the proceedings are,
that he has been guilty of insubordination, "particularly in
consequence of sending the letter to Mr. Yates."
Mr. HODGSON.—No.
Mr. YATES.—Let the passagem be read.
Mr. RADCLIFFE having read the paragraph,
Mr. YATES, continued to say that there was great vague-
ness in the Charge of insubordination. He never would be
content, and the public never would 'be content, when char-
ges we're brought against a man so vaguely and dismissal
followed ; and lie thought the conneil would not confirm the
proceedings under such circumstances. Since 1829, Mr.
Taafe had supported his mother and four of his brothers and
sisters, and he was at present, supporting his motheria sister,
and a brutber, the 'Atter of whom
was dangerously ill of
consumption. The case was one, therefore,ofpeculiar hard-
ship, against a man of exemplary diligence, irreproachable
conduct, good manners, mad great ability as a teacher. If
there was one roan morethan another who deserved the sym-
pathy of the council it was the man who dared to be just,
although be thereby brought down upon himself the frowns
of his superiors. He thought if ever there was a case which
called for their sympathy the present was that one, and he
appealed to the sense of justice and humanity upon the part
of the council to act uprightly in the matter.
Mr. EARLE said he had great pleasure in rising. tp second
the amendment proposed by Mr. Yates, but wonl4 net make
any observations at that stage of the discussion, ag he had
been informed by the Town-clerk that he.niight reserve him-
self until after other gentlemen had'iiiolten.
Mr. Honcsoa;.—l, appeal `to, tie Mayor whether you can
speak Again upon Vie question.,
Mr. EAti:Lx.--1 11 do so when I choose. (A laugh.)
The 'DOWN-CLERK said the Mayor must determine this
point. According to the rule of the House of Commons, a
member seconding a motion might reserve to himself the
power of making his observations at a later period.
Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Aiid it has been acted upon here.
Mr. Alderman TDRNER.—Before the discussion proceeds
I should like to be informed whether every member of the
council has not a right to attend either of the schools,, Midi()
ask any questions they may think proper ?--becatise„ if tliey
have that power, the resolution of the EduCeticin.Committee
is an infringement of that right: Vow can we attempt to
discharge oor duty, if el'esialution of the kind is to be put
upon the Wake', duty,
we are told, in direct terms, that we
haadinti Tight' so to do?
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.—You have every right, certainly,
to attend them.
Mr. BOLTON.—Perhaps the Town-clerk will declare it
authoritatively.
The TOWN..CLERX.—In answer to that question—whether
every member of the council, not a member of the Education
Committee, has a right to be a visitor of the schools—l must
only give the answer I gave on a former ()Cession, according
to the best of my recollection, in the case of Mr. Isaac
Ualmes. I then declared that a member of the council, who
was not a member of the Education Committee, had no right
to visit the'Schobls. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. Boi,ToNAHas he not a right to ask tiktiestiouslfor his
information and guidance?
The TOWN-CLERK.--My opinion is that he has no other
right than that Which belongs to any gsntleroan in the town.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. Alderman EAnt.z.,-Then, how are we to judge if
these gentlemen have reported nothing as to the investiga-
tion going forward respecting Mr. Stone?
The Towsr-CLERK.—I know not that I am bound to
answer that question, but you know that every committee of
the council-is subject to the control and correction of the
council in every respect.
Mr. BRIGRT.—The Town-clerk labours under a misap-
prehension with regard to Mr. Holmes, who wanted to be
present in the committee, and not to go to the schools.
The TOWN-CLERK.—It was so with respect to the Watch
Committee ; not with respect to the Education Committee.
Mr. EARLE.—Has a burgess a right to go to the schools
and ask those questions?
The Towsr-CLanxa—Certainly not. (Hear.)
Mr. EARLS.—''hen we are kept 1u glorious ignorance.
(4 laugh.) • ' "
Mr. PLATT was of opinion that Mr. Taafe had been un-
justly dismisied.
Mr. BOLTON did not rise to speak on the question, but to
protest against the opinion just given by the Town-clerk.
He maintained it was the right of every councillor to visit the
schools, and he thought it the duty of the masters to give
such information to the cenneillors going there as might be
asked for in a cirii manner, He certainly would bring the
question fully'before the council on an early day.
Mr. HODGSON said he was of opinion they might dispose
of the present question without a great deal of discussion.
Mr. Yates had entered into it with much good feeling ; but
it should be recollected that the management of the schools
had been entrusted to a committee, who were responsible for
the carrying of them forward in a proper manner. The pre-
sent was not a question of feeling, with regard to whether
Mr. Taafe took care of his mother or his sister, neithei4 was
it a question of moral conduct, that gh moral conduct might
be involved in cases of the kind;. hut it'was a question of fit-
ness, for which the corninitiee'were to be responsible. Mr.
Yates had atieMpted to damage the character of Mr. Stone,
by bringing forward vague reports against him. He had at-
tempted to cast a slur upon the conduct of the head master
who had been appointed by the council, and who had been
approved of, so far as he had gone, by the committee of ma-
nagement ; and he thought Mr. Yates had been train.- +0
make good his case by travelling out of his wary, and, by
nlak-
ina attack upon an individual whose conduct' was not be-
fore the council. (Hear hear.} What was the fact with
regard to Mr.Taafe
? Thati lie had repeatedly told Mr. Stone
he v.',9!1.41• el?eY A* twisters, but that he would not obey him!

watch committee, which consists of five-and-twenty MeMbers, 1
they would have given him every setis.factide;atid that such
a course would have been much' More ie order than to come 1
here and pnt'questions 'Which it would take three hours to
iiiieUgs 'properly. I maintain that the appointment of Sim-
:bonds was a good one that the recommendation he brought
with him was high in the extreme ; and that he had a cha-
racter sufficiently high for any situation in the gift of the
committee. I think the slur Mr, Earle has thrown on the
ministers of the gospel was not at all in character with him
as a member of the Church of England. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. EARLE.—He allows his wife 2s. a week.
Mr. PARKER.—And I understand it is more than she
deserves. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. MELLOR contended that tlw appointment was irregu-
lar. It was contrary to the Standing orders passed in January
last, and he requested that the Deputy Town-clerk' might
reiti the report of the sub-committee as to the mode of
to ng on men, which was passed on the 15th of January.
I Mr. PARKER said, this would re-open the whole question.
The MAYOR asked whether Mr. Mellor had reason to
think that the standing orders bad been departed from?
Mr. Mtm.on. replied in the affirmative. "
Mr. RADCLIFFE then read one of the standing orders,
which was' to the effect that no testimonial be admitted except
from the last employer or some respectable individual baying
a personal knowledge of the applicant.
" 4 r. J.' LANynt,iitp said that other testimonials respecting
the man's chdracter had been before the committee, inde-
ppndently of the one signed by the clergy.
Mr. 'MELLOR said, he had been one of the committee who
had recommended the adoption of the rule just read. The
reasone of its adoption was to prevent testimonials from being
sig d by constituencies, which was a very improper thing.
N no
one Would deny that the rule was sound in principle.
Within a few months after theadoption.of the rule, a memo-
rial, signed by not less than d thirty individuals, was brought
to the Watch Committee,
()aunt
abdy that committee referred to
the daily board. He c etdhathat no such memorial
should have been received, ande
necessary
ought to have been
declared irregular. He felt it nee.
treysttiomesntatatels,
ioowevteire,
that there were three or four separate
parties who bad signed the general one. It would hdvembeein
perfectly regular to send the separate testimonials to the
sub-committee ; but it was equally irregular to send them the
general memorial which had been signed by the ministers of
the Church of England, because a memorial so signed was
calculated to influence men's judgments, and to induce them
to make an appointment which they would not have done in
the absence 01 such general testimony. Upon those grounds
had movcci itrcommittee that the appointraent be. not con-
firmed; and as Mr. Earle had now brought the matter before
the council, he had no hesitation in repeating his statement
before the Watch Committee, that the appointment of the
titan was irregular.
Mr. J. LAWRENCE wished, after the speech which had
just'been made, to leave the matter in the hands of the coon-
eil, Mr. Mellor having admitted that there were three
Olie of those
Principal
memorials from single (leahra.)d, The
`'Flltag 0641 the Mati'slast employer.
riafties who signed the general mernor()lth
_imoreover, an
One t" em had written a
individual knowledge of him.
note to him (Mr. L.) saying tbat he had known him for a
number of years, and that he bore a most excellent character.
Mr. EARLE.—Two shillings a-week. (A laugh.)
Mr. J. LAWRENCE.—If you had been in the same situa-
tion perhaps you would have thought 2s. a-week a great deal
too much. (Hear.) Mr. Lawrence then proceeded to con-
tend that the appointment was one whichthe 93mmittee•had
been quite justified in making.
TltottNitit,L contended that the Watch Committee
might not,to have made the appointment.
Mr. GLAns'roNE said, that it appeared to him the whole
charge brought against this individual was that he had taken
a conspicuous part in the trial of " Hearne v. Stowell, but
"
surely as long as a man did his duty and had no stain on
uncil his
character, neither the Watch Committee nor the Co
were justified in making such an enquiry as that now before

Could discipline be carried on Under these circumstances ? Mr. BOLTON.—It is my opinion that the conduct pursued
(Hear, hear.) He said that he should see the orders of the by the committee in those schools is tyrannical and unjust.—
committee; but a most essential part of the instructions of (Great uproar.)
the committee was, to teach the children obedience to their Mr. GLADSTONE.—That is not the question.
superiors, because if subordination e ere not to be established, Mr. BoLToN.—I repeat that it is tyrannical and unjust.
nothing in the shape of benefit could be inculcated. He The MAYOR.—You mean, of course, with respect to the
next refused to carry out the orders of the committee with dismissal of Mr. Taafe?
regard to the apprentices, from fear, as he said, of commit- Mr. BOLTON.—I am speaking of the rules by which the
ting an assault ; but this was a fiction of his own. It was schools are regulated ; they are tyrannical and unjust, in-
an attempt to put a colouring on that which was not fair asmuch as they exclude the Catholics. (Much uproar.)
nor honest, and could not be allowed to have any weight with The MAYOR.—But that is not the question before the
a man who was to teach, not merely obedience, but truth council now.
in every respect. He (Mr. Hodgson) alleged that Mr. Taafe Mr. BOLTON.—I say the conduct of the committee in the
had thus shown himself unfit forhis situation. In the first place, management of these schools reminds me of a period of his-
he refused to turn out the refractory apprentices who would tory, in the year 1780, when some fanatical spirit—. (Im-
neither teach as they had been directed, nor transfer their in- mense uproar and continued cries of " Order."
dentures. Then, with respect to Mr. Taafe giving a account The MAYOR.—But Mr. Bolton, that is not the question.
to Mr. Yates of the attendance of Mr. Stone at the school, Mr. LLOYD.—Does the passage of history refer to Mr.
did Mr. Yates so little understand the proper discipline to be Taafe ? If it does not; Mr. Bolton is not in order. (Great
observed that he should go to the second master in the school laughter.)
and ask him to become a spy upon his superior. (Laughter.) Mr. BOLTON.—It is the same feeling of bigotry and in-
Was that Mr. Yates's discipline? He thought if Mr. Yates tolerance that led you to expel the Catholics. (Cries of
happened to be upon the committee, they would teach him " Order.")
that they held different views upon the subject. (Renewed Mr. BIRKETT.—If we sit here as bigots the town is of our
laughter and cheers.) Mr. Yates had next spoken of the way of thinking. (Cheers.)
violence offered with respect to the teachers in religious in- Mr. BOLTON.—If lam not allowed to go on—
struction, and he had said that it had been deemed contrary The MAYOR.—Go on as to the dismissal.
to the orders of the council, and that it had been attempted to Mr. BOLTON.—Exactly. I shall not proceed with the
enforce on the Roman Catholics the going to church. But he passage from history if I am not allowed. I canot help
had failed to draw a distinction between teachers in the school thinking that Mr. Taafe's offence was a very venial one, and
and the taught. (Hear.) The committee never held that that he ought only to have been reprimanded, and his mistake
they would have as teachers in the school, people who would in the rules of the schools pointed out to him. I think the
refuse to give instruction in the Church Catechism. The 'committee have acted in that respect extremely harsh ; and
teachers must teach that which had been appointed to be I call on the council not to confirm proceedings which, in
taught, because there was no way of enforcing the plan on my opinion, are very arbitrary and unjust.
which the schools were to be conducted, except by making Mr. GLADSTONE.—I am sorry to bring myself again be-
the teachers teach the Church Catechism. The teachers were, fore the notice of the council ; but lamby no means satis-
however, told that if they could not comply with those re- fled. When I found fault with Mr. Bolton's remarks,
quisitions their indentures would be cancelled ; but they which he afterwards seemed to retract, and called me a" ty-
stood in the anomalous position of being nobodies in, the rannical bigot," he made use of a most unwarrantableexpres-
schools, when they were told that unless they adopted the sion, for he told me " I might sit down" " under it." lam
plan pointed out they could not be there at all. There was not of a quarrelsome disposition ; I wish to live in peace with
no question contrary to common sense in saying that the all men, but that is an expression I will not permit any man
council could not expect to go on with people under them in to use towards me. (Cheers.) I will be insulted by no man.
such a situation, and so refractory as the apprentices seemed (renewed cheers') I have a character to protect ;it is at-
to be. He would not say anything with regard to Mr. Taafe's tacked in this instance ; and I will not allow Mr. Bolton or
moralcharacter. He wouldnotdo what Mr. Yates had, impugn any other man to make use of expressions which are not to
theconduct of men perfectly unimpeachable on the committee, be tolerated. (Great Cheering.)
but lie would say that Mr. Taafe's mode of going to Mr. Mr. BOLTON.—I retracted what I said in the firstinstance,
Yates, and reforming his letter and breakfasting with him, and I regret having made use of such expressions as Mr.
and giving him private information, rendered him unfit to Gladstone complains of ; but, I repeat, I was speaking of the
hold any situation in the schools as a teacher, although it conduct of the committee ; and I cannot help thinking still
might be no breach of what Mr. Yates would consider that the committee have not acted according to the strict prin-
" moral conduct." (Laughter and cheers.) He should like ciples of justice and impartiality ; nor do I think the rules
to know how Mr. Yates would himself act under similar cir- which they have adopted, in conformity with the rules that
cumstances ?If the gentleman were going to choose a servant ought to have actuated their conduct.
would he be likely to engage an eavesdropper, who would tell Mr. TouemiN.— I think we ought to have an unqualified
privately what had been passing in his house ?—(hear, hear) retractation ; but that is not an unqualified one.
—or, rather, would he not say to such a servant, "If you Mr. JORDAN.—It is quite enough. (Oh.)
find anything wrong you had better conic to myself and tell Mr. Aldrn. BARCLAY.—What is the offensive expression ?
it ?" (Hear, hear.) Why had not Mr. Taafe done this ? The MAYOR.—A tyrannical bigot.
Why did he not come to the committee and tell what he Mr. AldermanßancLAy.-1- do not yet exactly understand
considered to be wrong ? (Hear.) But, 110 ' lie went and what Mr. Bolton is accused of. As to the act done by the
reduced his private information to writing; and whether Mr. committee, Ido myself consider it to be a very tyrannical act.
Yates wrote a letter for him to copy or not it was difficult to Mr. Alderman EARLE—Hear, hear, And very unjust.
say, but, at all events, Mr. Taafe had made but a sorry figure Mr. Alderman BARCLAY.—That is my opinion, and I
at composition, and had rendered himself totally unfit for shall he prepared to maintain it upon another occasion.
the situation by his conduct. The committee were deter- Mr. MELLOR.—I did not understand the words spoken to
mined to subdue any spirit of similar insubordination which he personally offensive to Mr. Gladstone. I understand Mr.
might evince itself in either of the schools; and, notwith- Bolton to be speaking of the system. (" No, no.")
standing all the spirit of faction abroad, and all the attempts The MAYOR.—It was decidedly against either the com-
made to ex ite discontent, he was happy to say that the mittee or Mr. Gladstone.
schools were increasing from day to day. (Cheers.) They Mr. M'ELLon.—I understood Mr. Bolton to say that the
were taking in more and more children every week. Both the ssstein was tyrannical, unjust, and bigotted. (Renewed cries
schools would be filled much sooner than he had expected, of " No, no.") That was the meaning of it.
and in a short time, he trusted they would be an example The MAYOR.—It was decidedly, in my opinion, against
worthy to be followed by the country at large. But mean- the committee or Mr. Gladstone.
while he called upon the council to give their cordial support Mr. MELLOR.—I beg to add that I confirm Mr. Bolton's
to put down the spirit of trifling and vexation which was opinion with respect to the system. I think the system
being constantly evinced, and taking up the time of the council. The MAYOR.—You may explain what fell from Mr.
He called upon the council to give their support to the Bolton, but you are not at liberty to go into the general
schools for only a short time longer, when the progress of question.
improvement would, he was satisfied, be such as to render Mr. AIKIN.—I sat next to Mr. Bolton, and after he had
entire satisfaction. He believed Mr. Yates to be acting in made use of the expression, I heard him say that he did not
accordance with the feelings of his party, and he admitted intend it to apply to any member of the committee, but to
his candour, but he dissented from his judgment in lobo on their acts. He said he did not mean to apply it offensively
the present occasion. He hoped the proceedings of the corn- to any member.
mittee would be confirmed by such a majority as would show Mr, G. H. LAWRENCE.—Mr. Gladstone is satisfied with
the gentlemen opposite that although they might amuse them- respect to the withdrawal of the charge of " bigotry and
selves by bringing statements of this kind forward, such state- intolerance," but he complains that when be said—" I will
ments were altogether out of place. (Hear, hear.) When not put up with language such as that," Mr. Bolton said,
the radicals had been in power in the council, it was well "If you won't put up, you may sit down under it."
known that they had used their power. The conservatives Mr. GLADSTONE.—Y es, Mr. Bolton said I might sit down
had certainly protested against their proceedings on the sub- tinder it. I should like to know whether that language is
ject of education, but what had been the conduct of the con- not personal ? (Hear, hear.)
servatives at that time? They said they dissented, but then Mr. BOLTON.--I afterwards said that what I said referred
they never became disturbers of the common peace. (Hear, to the system.
hear.) And all he would now say was this—the conservatives Mr. Leovn.—The first impression among the members
have got the power—that power they will exercise ; and the near me was, that Mr. Bolton was referring to individuals ;
radicals may enjoy the vox et praterea nihil, as all that but lie says he applied it to the committee generally. He
belongs to them in their fallen position. (Hear, hear.) shoved it from the persons, and then spoke of it in relation
Mr. PRIESTLEY contended that Mr. Taafe had not done to the system.
wrong in answering Mr. Yates' questions, because he was Mr. JORDAN.—And lie had a right to do so. In the House
under the impression Mr. Yates had a right to ask them, as of Commons every member has a right to explain.
one of the councillors. The MAYOR.—I consider that Mr. Bolton has retracted
Mr. A. SMITH said there existed some misconception as the charge against the committee and Mr. Gladstone.
to the cause of the dismissal of Mr. Taafe. Mr. Yates Mr. BOLTON.—I spoke of the system.
seemed to think it was because be bad written a letter to The MAYOR.—Not in the first instance. (Hear, hear.)
him ; but this was not the fact. (Hear.) He had been Mr. BOLTON.—I was speaking of the system, which I con-
dismissed for insubordination, in having brought charges sidered unjust and bad.
against Mr. Stone, which were not founded on fact. (Hear, The MAYOR.—Your remarks were applicable either to
hear.) The committee had investigated these charges, and Mr. Gladstone or to the committee.
found that every one was incorrect. In the first place, the Mr. BOLTON.—I did not mean to apply them personally
Roman Catholic children had not been compelled to learn the to Mr. Gladstone.
church catechism, or to go to church. In the next, the ap- Mr. TOULMIN.—He has only withdrawn the expression so
prentices had refused to do what Mr. Stone had ordered them, far as Mr, Gladstone personally is concerned.
and Mr. Taafe refused to turn them out when Mr. Stone had The MAYOR.—I understand it to be withdrawn with re_
desired him to do so. Then Mr. Stone had been accused of spect to the committee also.
not having attended the North School when first appointed, Mr. BUSDELL.—I think he has withdrawn it as fully as
but the fact was that he had been compelled to pass the he could.
greater part of his time at the South School, there being no Mr. Alderman EARLE.—It is great presumption on the
other master there, and of course he was unable to be in two part of any gentleman present to make any further observe-
places at the same time. In short, every charge against him tion after the mayor has decided that it has been retracted.
had undergone investigation, and was found to be incorrect. Mr. GLADSTONE.—I understood the first charge to be
(Hear, hear.) withdrawn. After Mr. Bolton had explained the first charge,
Mr. YATES asked Mr. Smith if he would be so good as to the second which he made was personal to myself, for di.-
say whether the committee had examined the five apprea- recting himself to me and looking at me, he said—" You may
tices or the three fathers whom he had named ? sit down under it." That was an attack upon me. I un-
Mr. Alderman EVANs expressed a hope that Mr. Glad- derstood that was to be withdrawn,
.and I now must know
stone would fulfil the engagement he had given some few whether it is so or not.
weeks ago, and inquire whether the Roman Catholic child_ Mr. BOLTON.—It was merely a little pettish observation
ren, who had been in the school heretofore, had returned, of my own, brought on by the petulant manner of Mr. Glad-
There were only twenty-five who could be called Catholics stone himself.
at the South School; and when they heard of the schools Mr. GeAnsTorre.—Petulant ! What do you expect us to
being filled again, he would ask Mr. Gladstone to pursue his be made of? (Hear, hear.)
inquiry, and to ask what had become of the Catholic child- Mr. Alderman EvANs.—lt would be more in accordance
ren, and whether other schools had been denuded of their with the charity, which we hope ought to cYist in, Mr. Hodg.
scholar. to fill up the void in the corporation schools? son's mind, if he would facilitate the arrangement.
Mr. PLATT said the number of Roman Catholic children The MAYOR.—II is now terminated.
at the North School amounted to fifty-four. Mr. EVANS.—With regard to what fell from Mr. Bolton,
Mr. Alderman EvANs.—What has become of the others? lam not surprised that gentlemen took offence at it; but
Mr. GLADSTONE, in reply to what Mr. Alderman Evans when withdrawn and apologised for quite sufficiently, lam
had said, would remark that lie was not aware of having surprised that Mr. Hodgson should endeavour to prolong
given any pledge. He had asked a question, and he would the subject. I conceive it is amply and honourably adjusted.
ask the question again, when the system had been tried, but Mr. HODGSON.—If Mr. Gladstone is satisfied, I shall not
the system was not yet matured. (Hear, hear.) He had proceed with the vote of censure.
asked what had become of the catholic children, formerly in Mr. GLADSTONE.—I am satisfied if lam right in thinking
the corporation schools; and he had since had the pleasure that it has been entirely withdrawn.
of seeing a small sprinkling of them return. Whether the Mr. BusHEi.L.—l don't see how the withdrawal can be
number would increase, of course it was impossible for him more effectual. (Hear.)
to pronounce an opinion ; but he adhered to the opinion he Mr. RowrisoN said he should oppose the confirmation of
then expressed that, if the schools were not made available the proceedings in consequence of what Mr. Yates had said
for all classes, he for one, would propose some change in with respect to Mr. Taafe considering himself at liberty to
them,. but he would not say what the change would be. give information to a member of council.
Mr. PLATT, in answer to a question, said the number of Mr. EARLE said his party had always been attacked when
Catholic children at the South School was 25. they introduced the present very "factious opposition ;"
Mr. BUSHELL was only afraid that the expectation of the but he hoped so long as injustice prevailed, that there would
gentlemen opposite, of a change in the views of a most influ- be plenty in the council to raise their voices against it. At
ential member of his (Mr. Bushell's) side of the house, all events, so long as he was in the council he would apply as
would operate rather as an inducement to continue the agi- . strong a blister as it was in his power to do. (Hear, hear,
tatioa of this question than to allay it. That was his fear, and a laugh.) There was the utmost honour, candour, and
however benevolent the motive which prompted such an opi- religion about Mr. Hodgson and yet his sting was generally
nion, or which dictated conduct based upon such opinion. of the severest kind. He (Mr. Earle) was not speaking then
It might, he greatly feared, operate as a premium upon agi- of what bad taken place in the council, but of what had oc-
tation instead of a check to it. Them seemed to be some curred in a building close by a short time since. (Oh !)
misapprehension with regard to the record of the committee's Mr. HonesoN.—l appeal to the mayor whether this ought
proceedings : the committee merely referred to Mr. Taafe's to be allowed.
. letter as evidence to bear out the fact of insubordination, The MAY OR.—I think Mr. Earle ought not to proceed.
and it was the very best evidence that could be given, inas-
much as it proceeded from Mr.
EARLE.—I am sorry for it, sir ; but it's out. (Great
Mr. Taafe himself. The letter, laughter.) He agreed with what Mr. Evans had said in re-
proceeding from himself, was evidence of his insubordina- ference to what had fallen from Mr. Bolton, but when one wit-
-6011.1 and he (Mr. Bushell) iwould ask the committee how nessed injustice, it was enough to make the blood and bile
discipline could be preserved in a large body, such as the rise in him, and it was excusable if a little slip were made,
arteY for instance, if every man insisted upon receiving his though it might not be in accordance with the rules of po-
,
orders and instructions directly from the commender-in-chief? fished society. The reason Mr. Taafe had been dismissed
Each officer was there responsible to the one above him, and he was, because he was a superior man to Mr. Stone, and be-
was merely the machine to put his orders in execution. When cause they wanted to bring all the masters down to the level
Mr. Taafe said he would not obey Mr. Stone, insubordina. of the latter. This was the whole secret ; and more tyran-
tion commenced, and it might have descended through the , nical, bigotted, and unjust conduct he had never heard of in
whole system if it were not stopped. The cmuMitteetthere- . his life. It was such a system of religious bigotry as had
fore, could do nothing else than what they had 2- and, how- never been known in the land before.
ever he (Mr. Bushell) might sympathise with Mr., Taafe on Mr. GLADSTONE said that some reference had been made
the situation in which he was pieced, the committee, be in the course of the debate to the page of history. Now,
contended, could not have acted, otherwise towards him. if those who succeeded them should ever be tempted to ex-
ile thought the wonder vvas, not that there was not a large amine the records of their proceedings in the council, he
body of Rog au Catholics in the schools, but that there was thought that the conduct of Mr. Alderman Earle since he
one Remelt, Cet4Olieil thetn• That there should have been entered the council, would produce some risibility, if not
so many as twenty-five in one school was matter of surprise. something more. Everybody would recollect what had taken
lin Conclusion, he thought that none of the present attacks place when he (Mr. Alderman. Earle) attempted to criticise
ought to receive any sanction from the council until the sys- Mr, Stone's letter. That circumstance reminded him (Mr.
tem had first received a fair trial. Gladstone), of a preacher who was accused of reading other
Mr. AIKIN asked when the time was to arrive when the persons' sermons. By reading them wretchedly, he made them
system would be considered to have had a fair trial .? He his own ; and Mr. Earle would have the council infer from
cared not about the military law of the last speaker or the that circumstance that Mr. Stone was incompetent for the
uncivil law of the town-clerk ; but he thought the common- duties of a master of the schools. To-day the council had
sense law was, that the council should make particular and heard of Mr. Taafe. Mr. Earle had referred to what he
personal inquiry into, the naode of conducting the schools. (Mr. Gladstone) said at the last council of Mr. Taafe : and
He was satisfied that tie, man could lay his hand on his heart whatever grounds he might have for forming an opinion
and say that Mr. Taafe had been properly and honestly dis- of Mr. Taafe, he had refrained from saying more on the
missed. occasion Mr. Earle referred to because he had no wish
Mr. Waxen thought that the private affairs of individuals to do what might be injurious to Mr. Taafe. That was
would soon go to wreck if the conduct of Taafe, which his feeling when he heard Mr. Taafe's fitness for a master
seemed to have been approved of by Mr. Aikin, were gener- so highly eulogised. His own opinion of Mr. Taafe was
ally adopted. Ile maintained that the man had been guilty that he had been in that school six years too long, and
of gross insubordination. Hefted refused to do whet Mr. Stone that in some respects he was incompetent as Mr. Alderman Earle incompetent for the duty.
told him, and he had made statements wholly untrue of the x
If any gentleman doubted
head master ; lie had put them into the hands of Mr. Yates ;
see
those statements had gone to the public ; and was it likely, Mr. Alderman to
Aldedrom,
an EARL.v..---Very much indeed.
under those circumstances, that Mr. Stone and Mr. Taafe Mr. GLADSTONE,--Then be would refer them to docu-
could ever draw together? Was it likely that the children ments in possession of the Education Committee, from
could learn obedience from such insubordinate conduct which Mr. Yates. must have seen that Mr. Taafe was no
on the part of one of their masters ? (Hear, hear.) That great adept at composition or Spelling either. (Hear, hear.)
He (Mr. Gladstone) did not make this charge without having
had happened to Mr. Taafe no'w which he (Mr. B.) told some
'ned something to justify it. (Hear, hear.) He had
of the parties who lent themselves to the present factious op- a
position would assuredly happen. He called it " factious
heard
great contending parties, of having'
reenrtaacicused,bectawuase it' was only stronglynatuurkrsaslietromilfeeehlaandd
in
opposition," because the council had to go over the same 'where. there were
subject every day they assembled. (Hear, hear.) It was tmnaantycopuenncp:ile
the case of a small minority against a large majority, and nnnterinapatuan%smrpetmuna
made in reply, but thing gore he d
that majority carrying out the Wi&ll2.S of the inhabitants. ones he might have
on temptuous character e contended
(Hear, hear.) The radicals stood as 1.3. to 35 in the council. made none of a c
the Education Co •
mittee, with After alluding to the large majority by which Mr. Brassey that the proceedings
of
not have been otherwise than they
re-
had been returned for St. Anne's Ward, on this very ques- gard to Mr. Taafe, could
matatdaeckwh
it possible for
tion, Mr. I3irkett col:3000 by again denouncing the con- had been. How was Mr. Stone and Mr.
(Hear,
duct of til 'leinerity. Taafe to work together? hear.) It would have been
Mr. PARKER expressed his belief that Mr. Aikin would be much better for M Taafe to have gor. ne away with a good
the •f to stand up for order, decorum, and subordination grace, rather than have been the means of causing all this
in every department with which he stood connected. If any ferment and turmoil.
of his servants showed anything like the insubordination Mr. MELLOR thought the motion of Mr. Yates deserving
evinced by Mrs Tea*, or if any of the officers under the of every consideration,. said expressed a hope that Mr. Glad-
Dock committee were to be guilty of it, the consequence stone would bring the present turmoil to a conclusion by pro-
would he instant dismissal. (Hear, hear.) In the hope of posing some plan for the management of the schools which
putting a stop to the present system of opposition, he moved, would allay unpleasant feelings.
as a second amendment, a vote of confidence in the Education Mr. SAN,EBACH replied. He was very sorry for Mr. Taafe
Committee. becauie he did not believe that his insubordination originated
Mr. Toe 'Aux seconded the amendment. with himself.
Mr. BuLLEv believed the proceedings of the committee 'Mr. YATES said he would have to vindicate Mr. Taafe's
were as illegal as they were unjust and unrighteous,,, an i 'en- conduct if Mr. Sandbacla continued these observations.
tered his protest against them. Mr. SANDBACR said it was the conduct of Mr. Yates him-
Mr. BOLTON contended that when the party, with which self, he was impugning more than that of Mr. Taafe. In the
he stood connected were in power, they invariably acted course of the investigation before the committee, Mr. Taafe
upon the principle of do u!,Ao others as' you would wish was asked why he had not made some communication to the
others to do unto you. He referred to the late debate in coninaittee if he thought matters wrong, and his reply was
the House of Commons, and said that the government were That Mr. Yates told him it was unnecessary for him to make
going to send Out Catholic clergy to give instruction to tbg. anY communication to the:committee. (Hear hear.)
Catholic soldiers in India: He wished to contrast the liberal Mr. YATES denied that he had told him anything of the
conduct of the government in this respect with 'khe puny kind.
and petty conduct of a few tyrannical bigots. hi Liverpool, • Mr. SANDBAcx said that Taafe's words had been taken
He' was strongly reminded of a period ilik,historye,„ down at the moment. Whether Mr. Yates had acted in the
Mr. GLADSTONE.—I rise to ord9;, Mr,. Mayor. I, for one, matter as a councillor ought to have done. he would leave
will not submit to be called a tgapoical bigot bY any man,
the members to judge. He (Mr. S.) thought he had not.
If that language is addressed to me as a. member of the (Hear.) He did not like to characterize Mr. Yates's conduct
Education Cominitte, aslS
the mayor whether it is, or is in the manner which be thought it deserved.. He had his
be called a tyrannical bigotand distinct was
not, to be retracted?, Ain toown opinion of it ; SO that opinion that he
Education Committee I acted m the
because, aka member of the Educe _ t
(H do should be sorry to have . manner in which Mr.
what conscientiously believe to he rtgh • ear, hear.) Yates had. (Hear.)
ts that language to be applied to me? I shall not ask the Mr. YATES again denied that he bad expressed to Taafe
question again.
to individuals, b the words. attributed to him by that individual.
Mr. BOLTON.—I did not apply it tO The council then divided upon the amendment proposed
' Oh l"by
the committee as a body. (Cries of . ) Mr. Yates, when there appeared :
Mr. HODGSON.—If that language is not immediately For it.... • .... • '''''''''''' • 20
retracted, I shall move a vote of censure.. (Great applause.)
Against it ''''' ...... s • • • • • • • • 32

The amendment was consequently lost. The following
members voted in the division :
For the amendment—Messrs. Thornhill, Preston,Holmes,
Mellor, Bolton, Aikin, Bright, Priestley, Yates, Robinson,
Jordan, Platt, Mather, Holt, Bulley, Freme, Evans, Barclay,
Earle, and Moon,

CHESTER RACES

TUESDAY

A PRODUCE SWEEPSTAKES of 50 sovs each, h ft, colts Bst
41b, fillies Bst ; two miles.
Mr. F. R. Price's gr f Valentine, by Speculator
Sir R. Bulkeley's ch f Wide-awake, by Physician 2
THE TRADESMAN'S PLATE Of 200 sovs in specie, added to a
Handicap Sweepstakes of 25 sovs each.
Mr. Plummer's br f Alice Hawthorn, 4 yrs
Mr. Kirby's br h Lanercost, aged
A SWEEPSTAKES of 5 sovs, with 50 sovs added by the Pro-
prietors of the Grand Stand.
Mr. Meiklam's b c by Physician
Mr Walter's b c Wilton Brown
Mr. Collett's br c Heads or

Against it—Messrs. Shaw, Shand, Hodson, Houghton,
Sandbach, Copeland, Edwards, Barton, Blundell, Sands,
Toulmin, J. Lawrence, Cooper, Wood, Birkett, Gladstone,
Bushell, Procter, Lloyd, Rigby, Kilshaw, Parker, Brassey,
G. H. Lawrence, Trotman, A. Smith, jun., Harbord,
Nicol, Chilton, Bramley-Moore, and the Mayor.
Mr. Parker's amendment was not pressed to a division, and
the proceedings were confirmed.
The leases were then read and confirmed; after which the
council adjourned to Friday, for the despatch of the remain-
ing business.

MEETING OF THE DOCK COMMITTEE,

The following members were present at the Dock Com-
mittee Meeting yesterday :—Messrs. Sands (chairman),
Horsfall, Barclay, Holt, Holmes, Middleton, Sandbach.
Nicol, Aikin, Mellor, Bulley, Evans, robin, Shand, Martin,
Smith, and Ripley. A large pile of English oak, taken up
from the excavation for the new dock, was laid in the com-
mittee-room for the inspection of the members.
Mr. RIPLEY, looking at it; said he was glad to find that
it had a piece of iron at the end of it. which iron was in a
state of perfect preservation, although he supposed it had
been down for 150 or 200 years. This was a strong argu-
ment in favour of the iron light-ship. (Laughter.)
Mr.
matter

(Continued laughter.)

s no argument a

,
The light-house at Hoylake was ordered to be repainted and
whitewashed inside and out; and, on the recommendation
of the Sub-committee for the Department of the Marine Sur-
veyor, it was ordered that the new iron light-ship now build-
ing by Mr. Laird should be fitted up with the improved
lanterns, reflectors, and lamps.
Mr. HOLT said that Mr. Horsfall could not have failed to
observe, from his country residence, the superiority of the
improved lanterns over those of the old construction.

2 1 1
1 2 2
3 3 d

Mr. HORSFALL replied that any improvement in the mode
of lighting the entrances to the port ought certainly to be
adopted.
_ _

Mr. SANDIIACH asked what would be the cost of the im-
proved apparatus?
Mr. HOLT, in reply, said it would be manufactured by their
own Surveyor. There would be three lamps, and each lamp
would cost £416, so that the cost of the three lights would
be somewhere about £1,400.
Mr. RIPLEY wished that gentlemen of the commitee would
inquire into the cost of manufacturing this kind of apparatus.
If they would, they would find that their Surveyor manu-
factured it much cheaper, in their own yard, than regular
makers themselves. As Mr. Hartley had sometimes been
charged with extravagance, it was only fair that this circum-

stance should be known.
Mr. Tom/sr.—The difference is that in one case the maker
charges no profit, whilst in the other he puts one on of 30
per cent. _

A resolution was then adopted, authorising the Surveyor
to make the necessary lanterns for the iron light-ship upon
the most improved principles.
WRITING LETTERS IN THE NEWSPAPERS.-CAUTION TO

THE SERVANTS OF THE DOCK ESTATE
Mr. RIPLEY said that he had seen a letter in t
POOL STANDARD Of Tuesday, purporting to be signed by
signed by Mr. Askew, the South Harbour-master; and he
should like to know from Mr. Askew himself whether he was
the author of that letter.
Mr. HORSFALL suggested that the letter be read.
The SECRETARY then read the following letter, which ap-
peared in the last number of the STANDARD :

" THE NEW LIGHT-SHIP.
" TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.
" SlR,—The Dock Committee having determined on an
iron light-ship, I hope they may be not more disappointed
than they have been in the last N.W. ship, built under the
superintendence of the Marine Surveyor. I cannot afford
time to discuss the relative qualities between wind, cork, and
wood, with " Proselyte " or any other jack-in-the-box.

" May 2, 1842. " JOHN ASKEW."
Mr. HOLT said that Mr. Askew suspected that the Marine
Surveyor was the author of a previous letter, signed
" Proselyte," which appeared in another paper ( The Albion),
but without making any enquiry upon the subject from Mr.
Lord himself, he had printed the very improper letter in the
STANDARD to offend him. •
Mr. HORSFALL said he was not aware before that any
such letters had appeared.
Mr. HOLT added that it was not the present Marine Sur-
veyor who had had any thing to do with the light-ship :it
was Captain Denham.

Mr. Alderman EVANS said he did not mind the imperti-
nence of thelletter so much as its being calculated to create
dissension among the officers of the dock estate.

Mr. HORSFALL suggested that the committee had better
ascertain whether the letter was of Mr. Askew's writing be-
fore they took any steps upon it.
Mr. Alderman EVANS.—Has he not signed?
Mr. Alderman BARCLAY.—It is signed with his name,
but it may be an assumed signature.
Mr. Alderman EvANs.—There can be little doubt whose
it is.

Mr. AIKIN asked whether the subject was worth the
serious notice of the committee? If one man was in favour
of wood and another of iron, it might lead to a controversy
between them in the papers, but was it worth while for the
committee to notice it?

Mr. Alderman EvANs.—l do not think that any officer of
the dock estate ought to write to the public papers upon sub-
jects connected with the estate.
Mr. HORSFALL.—To say the least, it is unbecoming and
improper; but I think it would be only right, if you are all
of that opinion, that Mr. Askew should be called in, and
made acquainted with it.
Mr. TOBIN asked whether Mr. Askew referred to the lr

ght-ship built under the direction of the marine surveyor?
Mr. HOLT.—To that of Captain Denham, I believe.
Mr. TOBlN.—There have been two or three light-ships
built since then.

Mr. HOLT.—He says the north-west light-ship.
Mr. liarLE sr- would ask what business had Mr. Askew

with that ? He could not reflect upon the marine surveyor
without reflecting upon the committee ; and, therefore, his
letter was exceedingly improper, and, at least, he deserved a
reprimand.
Mr. MELLOR asked Mr. Ripley whether he had read the

.
previous letter of " Proselyte," which had called forth Mr
Askew's reply ?

Mr. RIPLEY said he had not, hut that was a matter of no
consequence in this question. The Dock Committee had
nothing to do with any correspondence in the newspapers ;
but he understood that Mr. Askew had written a former
letter to kl.n STANDAp.”. he should like to see that let-
ter.
Mr. Alderman BULL
this
Mr. RIPLEY.—I think it i

—ls it worth while going on with

Mr. Tonric said Mr. Askew 's opinion was correct, but he
should not have written the letter.

Mr. Alderman Nicol. recommended that Mr. Askew be
called in, before any further discussion, in order to ascertain
whether he was the writer of the letter in the STANDARD.
Mr. RIPLEY.—That is precisely the course I recommend.
Mr. Alderman Islicor..—And he might retire after he had
answered the question.
Mr. Alderman EVANS.—He certainly had no right to
bring the business of the dock estate before the public ; be-
sides, there is also a sneer at the Dock Committee in that
letter.

Mr. RlPLEY.—Precisely, and by our own servant.
Mr. Alderman EVANS.—We dismissed Captain Denham
for something worse than that, certainly, but not altogether
unlike it. Let him answer newspaper correspondents if he
likes, but he has certainly no right to do anything of the kind
in a case like this ; he has no right to bring the business of
the Dock Committee before the public so long as he is a ser-
vant of the estate.
The CHAlRMAN.—Certainly not.
The SECRETARY was then desired to fetch Mr. Askew in
before the committee. In a few seconds he returned and
reported that Mr. Askew was not in the building, but that a
messenger had been despatched for him.
Mr. Alderman EVANS.—The letter is his, I have not the
slightest doubt.
The CHAIRMAN.—No doubt of it.

Mr. Alderman EVANS;;;iiid;;;tood, by the reporters,
to say that it was sufficient ground for dismissal for a servant
of the estate to have written to the public papers impugning
a decision of the committee.

Mr. HORSFALL said, he would leave the matter in the
hands of the chairman, who should inform Mr. Askew that
the committee disapproved of his conduct in writing the
letter.

Mr. RIPLEY should be very sorry if such a matter as this
was likely to lead to the dismissal of so valuable a servant as
Mr. Askew : he did not think the offence deserved such a
punishment; but he did think that the least thing the com-
mittee could do would be to reprimand him for having writ-
ten the letter.

Mr. AIKIN thought, if any resolution at all were passed
against writing letters in the newspapers, it should apply to
all the officers of the establishment.
Mr. Alderman EVANS asked whether the committee were
to be afraid of their servants? They had not been afraid of
" the great captain," and why should they be afraid in this
case ?

Mr. ToniN.—Who do you mean by " the great captain ?"
Mr. Alderman EVANS.—There never was but one •` great
captain" in our service.
Mr. Alcor would not be afraid of any one in their service;
but at the same time, be would pass a resolution that no
servant of the estate should write letters to the papers. He
did not think there was any thing in Mr. Askew's letter to
call forth all these proceedings.
Mr. MELLOR was of the same opinion.
Mr. Alderman EVANS.—IIe had a good right to address
the public upon any other subject than this.
Mr. IionsFALL thought the subject had now received
sufficient notice.

sTi was then agreed that the Chairman should reprimand
Mr. Askew for having written the letter.

The committee next proceeded to the consideration of some
financial affairs, and shortly afterwards separated,

RANDOM THOUGHTS ON WEDNESDAY'S
COUNCIL.

I think great praise is dueto Mr. Councillor Lloyd, for
the manner in which he opposed the motion to grant addi-
tional assistance in the surveyor's office, on the ground that
the town has not the entire and undivided services of those
already employed in his office; and I think it was very silly
of Mr. G. H. Lawrence to say we ought to connive at this.
I think that Mr. Councillor Yates has clearly proved that
he advised and " edged on" Mr. Taaffe to quarrel with his
bread and butter, and then, conscience-stricken at his own
moral liability to support Mr. Taaffe, he makes a magnilo-
quent appeal to the humanity and justice (! !) of the council
to reinstate him in his situation, after being dismissed for
insubordination, clearly proved by one of his own letters,
concocted and written at the " Hall of Science," in the
Dingle !

IE DEE ST
added by a

WEDNESDA

I.ND STAKES of 10 soya each, p p, with 50sovs
e Dee Stand Pro

'lli's Ur h Lanercost

,netors

A SWEEPSTAKES of 25 sous each, for two-year-old colts
Lord Westminster's b f Mary Day, by Physician
Mr. Griffith's b c Newcourt, by Sir Hercules

THE DEE STAKES of 50 sows each, mitt
Mr. Copeland's b c Combermere, by Bran
Lord Westminster's ch c William de Fortibus, by Plenipo 2
SIXTY GUINEAS, (clear,) the gift of the Members for the

200 says added

_
Mr. Jones's gr c Portrait, 4 yrs
Mr. Meiklom s b c Physician, 3 yrs
Mr. Owsley's b c Happy-go-lucky, 3 yrs.
THURSDAY. ,

Mr. Orde's b m Bee's Wing, aged . - walked over
THE MARQUIS OF WESTMINSTER'S PLATE, value 100 sows.
in specie, added to a Handicap Sweepstakes of 20 sows.
each, h ft for all ages (two years old excepted.)
Mr. Heseltine's br m The Shadow, 6 yrs ..
Lord Eglington's b m Bellona, aged
THE SELLING STAKES of 5 sows each, with 20 sows added

from the Racing Fund.
Mr. Price's ch h Prince Albert, 5 yrs .
Mr. T. Walter's b f Miss Winney, 4 yrs
A FRED HANDICAP STAKES of 20 sous_ each, 10 sovs ft,

with 50 sovs added by the Grand Stand Proprietor
Mr. Plumer's br f Alice Hawthorn, 4 yrs
Mr. Ferguson's hr h Humming Bird, 5 yrs

CORRESPONDENCE

THE SHIP WALLACE FOR PORT PHILLIP,

For the satisfaction of the friends of those who went out
in her, we publish the following letter, addressed by one of
the passengers in the ship Wallace, from this port to Port
Phillip, to the editor of the Port Phillip Patriot newspaper:—
SlR,—The ship Wallace left Liverpool on the 18th of
August, bound for Port Phillip, and arrived in Hobson's
Bay on the 26th day of November, after a very pleasant and
short passage of 100 days. She brings eight cabin, and three
steerage passengers, and three hundred and twenty-eight free
emigrants, of whom there are sixty-seven married couples,
fifty-one single men, and thirty-nine single women, and one
hundred and four children from one to fourteen years of age.
She has two surgeons on board, Mr. J. Greenwood, the
superintendent, and Mr. W. W. Burnell, the assistant-
surgeon. She had aroughpassage_down the Channel, and
_ _

Ige would have been one of the quickest
the line on the 20th of Sent.,

1 Think every "fact" stated by Mr. Yates was proved to
have no other existence than in "his own fertile imagination."
I think the Member for Castle-street Ward, commonly
denominated " the lumper in Sunday clothes," must have a
great superabundance of gastric juice, to eat and digest, with
such wonderful facility, his own hard words, when forced
down his throat (without even the ceremony of mastication)
by Mr. Robertson Gladstone. We heard a wag say, " Two
to one on Bolton against any ostrich in the Zoological
Gardens."

catne in her course, runni

I think Mr. Alderman Earle outdid by " chalks," in grace-
ful attitudes, Dr. Braid's somnambulist young lady, which
have been so very deservedly admired. I was once firmly under
the impression, when the alde •man turned up his eyes, and
his " eyelids quivered," that he was in a state of catalepsy.
To be perfectly serious; when Mr. Earle lifted up his stick,
and said to Mr. Toulmin, " this is a thing," and " you are
a person," the painful reflection flashed across my mind of
what the late John Barber said he was alone fit for, viz., " A
sign for the Crooked Billet !" _

I think Mr. Birkett hit Mr. Councillor Mellor rather hard
when he reminded him of what he said in committee, on the
the testimonials of an individual being signed by about a
dozen clergymen, " that a recommendation signed by so
many parsons was enough to damn any man !"
Exchange Ward, hear that ! write it on the tablet of your
memories ! Write it on your banners next first of Novem-
ber,—" THE RECOMMENDATION
.oy, TWELVE PARSONS'
IS ENOUGH TO DAMN ANY MAN ! !!
B.
P.S.—I forgot to say the Town-clerk gave a volunteer,
which I think made Mr. Alderman Barclay open both his
eyes :
Good wine cures the gout, the cholic, and the thysic, 0
And it is to every man the very best of physic, 0 V'
which was loudly encored.