The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-10-14 00:00:00

WM Pr Arr

Tta THE EWTO4 br ras STATESMAN.

=~-~-- .

late some discoveries have been made in
a, sera, parts of America, which clearly prove that
Europeans had resided in those parts previous to
America baying been found by Columbus; and some
of our learned of the present day wonder bow this
'could he ; hut it is perfectly agreeable to the differ.
ant accounts given from time to time by the Welch
barda, end the most learned of that country. It is a
nen. known feet, that Prince Madoc, son of Llwen
y n.rhd, soon after the death of hi. father, in con.
sequence of a misunderstanding among his brothers,
and Gulling his country reduced by the conquerors,
left Wales in the year 1169, to explore the Western
Ocean ; he found land, Which he represented as
very congenial to the comfort of man. After some
time. of what length is not clearly ascertained, but
I think, from circumstances, it must be full two
years, he returned to Wales, where he procured 10
Phipr, and the favourable account he gave of the new
World induced 323 men and women to go with him,
in order to settle in that part of America. It is pro-
bable that, after their making some advancements in
agriculture, in a few years the novelty of Europeans
settling there excited the curiosity of the natives to
such a degree, that they docked therefrom all parts,
until they became so powerful and troublesome as to
oblige the Welch Emigrants to remove ; and, from
ell accounts, they followed up the River Mysore.—
It appear.. also, from the account given in the His.
forty of Wales, by Ceradoc and Lancenfan, that
Madoc left Wales the second time, with ten ships,
end a great nomber of people. They went den
west. Nest comes Ilumphrey Llwyd,who trans.'
late() the works of Caradoc into English. Dr.
bid Powell says, that a number.of things belong.
lug Madoc were carefully lodged and preserved
in
the Nlona-tery of Conway, in North Wales. In the
Works of Gatlin Doerr, there appears a lontaccoont
of Madoc's leaving his country, a; well as in the works
of the celebrated Bard Growny, which scarcely differs
from that in the English by Ilskluy is, who describes
• war bre•klng out between the sons of Iltreti
Gwynedd, (luring which time Madoc left his country
with several ships, with a view of exploring the great
Western Ocean. John Marriot and Sir Thomas
/lerbert give an account likewise of Madoc's leaving
Ilia cowry. as also does Dr. Campbell, in his Naval
DistorN r; f. Great Britain, which proves in a great
measure their settling in America long before COlum•
bus was thought of. And it appears that its the year
1492, whets Columbus went to America, he found, a
certain mode of Christian worship among some of the
lohshitants whit!' had no doubt been introduced by
Mader: and his party; the names of several things
were also of Welch origin; end in the language of
Prince Montezuma, of Mexico, when a prisoner, he
says :—" Kinsmen, Friends, and Fellow-country.
Men, you must know that I have reigned a King over
you for 18 years, as a lawful descendant of my at-
testors, who reigned before me. We came from a
gneratlon very far. in a little island in the north ;
the leegusge and teliglon continue there to this day.
I base been to you an affectionate bather and
Prince, and you have been to me faithful subjects
end willing servants. Let it Keever remembered that
you have a clalsn to illustrjous blood, and that yob
are worthy of your kindred, her-loge you are a
free and manly race." The person who rendered
the above account slates that he saw it in a manu-
script in the Spanish language, in Metier), in the
year 1738. The Prince of Metier) considers
his origin to have been from a small Island in
the North, and from a noble race 4 men. Dr.
Thomaa I,lo}d, of Pennsylvania, to Charles Lloyd,
of Ddol y Fran, Montgomeryshire, in giving the hi..
tt.ry of the Rev. Morgan Jones, of Faesaleg, who i
ball been among the Welch Indians in the year 1660, '
relate.; it thus:—" Two ships were sent to South
Carolina. on hoard of one I was sent; we remained
there eight months and endured great hardships. 1
left with fire others, and travelled through the wil-
derness until we reached the country of Turcorara ;
there we were taken es spies, made pri.noers, tried
and condemnvd to die the neat day. When I heard
this, I cried, • Oh my God! have I thus escaped so
many perils and dangers nn sea and land to come thug
far and to die like a dog'" One of the officers,l
bearing him thus exclaim in the Welch language, ran!
to him and embraced him, at the same time saying in
good Welch--" You shell not be put to death, for
you are one of us."—" Ile immediately went to.the
Governor and purchased our release, and we were
introduced by him and received with kindoeas into
their town*, end treated with great warmth of hoe.
'pitality. I took every opportunity of talking in
Welch to the inhabitants, and preached to them three
limes a week for four months."—The above ,
account is corroborated by Mr. Benjamin Sutton,
'who, has been several years among the Welch Indians,
'after Mr. Morgan Jones had left them to return to
his own country, with a view of persuading some of,
his countrymen to accompany him to the AVelch.ln.l.
'diens, in order to teach them the Christian Religion,;.,
but he died on his passage home. Many others have
seen the Welch Indians, who state that they bolikthe
Memory of Mr. Morgan Jones itrthe greatest veners..
lion, and have been in expectetion of seeing some of
leis countrymen among them. MC.llinon, of Coyty,
in South Wales, 'was 30 years in America, doing
business with the Indians; and be says, that on one
of his journies, in,company with five or six more,
they went further *est of the Miaaisalispi than tiley
bad ever been Wore. There they found the country
well peopled; and the inhabitants spitite the Welch
language. Their houses Were bOileof stones; and
be observed several old cistles and' *hutches silrrn
net by time. Cadhen Bowles informed', the •present
learned William Owen, that he sal w'oll arquainfed.
with the parts where the.Wel.ch I4iansreside. They
are called Padouersid,. or Whitemlnainno; they are
very numerous, braveend valisoisin,hattle. He never
knew of Madoc having emigrated 40 America ; and,
the reason he gave ter their being Welch was, that
Weichrnan came to his house and remained with .him
for some time;. he had been made a
i;r.soner and
slave by the kaoiards ie Mesico; from thence he
made his. escape, sod - came through the great
-wihlerpeats-tO tite.gopoirs of Padoocraid, where he
found himself amongst his countrymen, with whom
be dwelt for some time. Mr. Price: Cadhenarall,
who was born among the Creecisid, observes, that
he did not understand Welch himself, but his father,

. .
wbo was a Welchmaß, often conversed with the Pa.
doucraid in WeIA. The Rev. Mr. Rankin, of
Kentucky, is clearly of opinion, that such, a race of
people exist several thousand miles from Kositocky,
on the branches of the River Mysore. It would be
endless to follow all the proofs from different trAvel•
lers of the existence of such a race of distinct peo.,
ple to this day in America as Welcliflsidians, but I
intend in my next letter to go more into the subject,,
and I think you will agree with me, that it is more'
than probable that the accounts given in the London
Newspapers last week, concerning Romanteins and
Ifortifications having been found in the United Stales,
were traces of Msdr;c's Emigration, as well as of his
retiring from place to place, when compelled by ne.
cessity.
Sept. 48,1818.

R-6

PUGIUSM.

RANDALL AND TURNER.
These celebrated pugilists are at length matched
for 200 guineas aside, to fight before neat Christmas,
a deposit. of 401. having been put down at Frank.
lin's, on Tuesday night, to that effect. To be a
fair standup fight, and not, to take place within 30
miles of the Metropolis—half.minute time. The
qualities of both the combatants stand very high in
the spatting svurld—the prime Irish Boy having con-
quered nine opponents in succession ; and Turner has
also disposed of with equally as much sangfroid,
every pugilist hitherto opposed to him, including the
tremendous Scroggins. Numerous belts which have
been made for these last nine months, and expected
to be off, are now come of a sudden into play, and
the amateurs are all upon the alert. The Lads of
the Fancy speak of the ensuing combat as likely to
prove one of the most interesting Naar!, that has oc-
curred the last 30 years. Randall is the favourite.

Last Tuesday a severe bailie was fought in a large
roped-in ring, in the George Meadow, at Battle,
between Joe, the times', and an Irishman, named
Dogherty, a currier, and commonly called the Town
Bully, for two guineas. The combatants, with their
seconds and bottle-holders, entesed the ring at eight
in the morning, both confident of victory, and after
stripping, set-to, showing some clumsy spat ring, in
imitation of their betels, bot no science. Dogherty
was the heaviest man, hut Joe possessed the longest
arm, which gave him the advantage when his anta-
gonist hit short, which he frequently did, having no
notion of measuring distance, and thereby got smart.'
ly punished about the head and face. No pluck ap-
peared wanting on either side, the battle having
lasted an hour and 55 minutes, and produced 72
rounds, sustained with as much gluttony as might
have been expected from the hardiest veterans of the
fancy, when the Irishman gave in, and yielded the
victory to Joe, which was at one time despaired of,
in consequence of his having badly sprained his wrist.
Itt one close Dogherty had got the tinmatt's head in
Chancery, and was paying away lustily at his wind,
when the spectators, for want of knowing better,
exclaimed •` Foul ! foul! no throttling !" Most
present were glad to see the bully beaten.
Two pugilistic contests finished the sports on
Monday on Durdbam Down: one between
Cowley and Old Cottle, commonly called the "Sand.
man," who fought Dick Horton; his favourite play
was at his antagonist's bread-basket, which he put
into a ferment, and fatally batched hins-up. The
other was a milling between two gluttons.

The Grand Duke hlicitaEL, in his slate tone, is
said to have disbursed in travelling espences in Eng-
land, so great a sum al 20,0001. The innkeepers
where he put up charged enormously high. At an
hotel in Edinburgh, the bill for two days and a half
k mentioned to us to have amounted to 2751. After
this bill was settled, an aftercharge was made of 50s.
for a luncheon of bread arid beer for eight men. In
Dublin the hills were more moderate. At en inn
in South-street, kept by one Morris, the charge for
four days was only 1501:; 'at Which the Grand Duke
was so Neticfied, that he presented the landlord with
an extra 501.
It it in coeterepletion to make a.direct communi-
cation from the county of Norfolk with the county
of Lincoln and the north of England, by means of a
bridge over the river Nene, at the nearest point prim.
ticable to the sea.
A most enormous mushroom, of the button sort,
u-as exhibited in this market on Tuesday last, which
sprung up, with many others of inferior size, from
en esparegus bed, lately belonging to • Mr. Gill.
rope-maker, near Stoke mills. It attaiiied in four
nights and three days the circumference of four feet
five inches, and the weight of sixteen pound's. The
owner sold it out in pieces at one penny
(Plymouth !'open.)
Arh extensive private loop-manufactory was disco•
veered on Saturday, in Uninn.streett Horooch.road,
by Whitehead, the Excise Officer ; besides the uten:.
;sits used in the manufactory, 35001 b. of soap were
:found and seized. One man only was observed on
the premises, and he escaped at the hack, while the
Officer entered the front pert of the house.
Yesterday morning, V. Elder, en old man, who
was employed at Mr. Fletcher% IVherf, Wapping,
while standing on a scaffolding, his foot slipped,
when he fell to the ground,and was killed on the spot.
Yesterday morning -- Amos, employed in the
West India Docks, while walking along with a heavy
toad, was yrecipitated through a trap door into
Cellar, by 'which he was dashed to pieces.
A burglary and robbery of an eztreordinary nature
*es lately eommittcd at a silversmith and jewet.l
let's, in Panton•street, Haymarket. At shout one
o'clock in the morning, a young man who %teem in'
the shop was awoke by the breaking of the fan-tight
over the door, and he immediately after observed a
man is if attempting to get 'in. The youog man
fetched a blunderbuss, which was kept tousled, and
discharged through the Window the•momentafter the
I.fellriw hid disappeared, be having hooked up a pair
of branch candlestieks; with which-begot clear off be.
lore the watchtnao., who heard the report of •the
blunderbuss, could arrive.
A young man genteelly attired, wan found drown.
tart io theSerokitier•sitiver.eittly'on Mood'ay merit.
'lug, and he was tato to the strork.hoeie to be own-
' ed. fle.sras recrigniied in the middle. of the day to
be a "ebaor, to the eiiiglibrierhood of Eietei''Cliarig'e,
of the name of Holland, who had lett his home at
niee o'clock on Sunday usoruingiu admpouding state.

• •

POLICE:•;!•_,Cr.: •
. .

GtItLDIIALL.—Jun' Sari* wits vvelerasy hrobeht
upend finally examined before Mr. AltlerrnanWaillt-
maw, charged with embexelipg cash to a great amount
from his employer, Mt.• Thomas. Fagg* of the
and Craws. (1111, and Coach Office, Holborn.
Mr. HARMER, for the prosecution, stated, that
'Mr. Fagg had discovered, by. an examination of his
books, that there were defalcations in the Prisoner's
accounts amounting tb more than 5001. The specific
charges, however, upon which the present proceed•
ings would rest, were but tao. They were these—
Mr. Timothy Bevington, of Gracechurch•street,
deposed to paying the Primmer the suns of 21. 10s.
for a Owe in the Exeter coach, belt being taking ill,
he was unable to go, and went to the. office of the
Prosecutor, some time afterwards, respecting it.—
He related the transaction to Mr. Fagg, who, upon
examining the books found that sio such entry of a
place taken, or of payment, had been made. The
Prisoner et-this time bad • Itft the employment of the
Prosecutor.
This case was considered decisive, and Mr. Be-
vington was called upon to swear to the facts.
Mr. Heviagton said, he was ready to affirm to the
truth of what he'.had stated ; hut being one of .the
Society of Friends, he must 'decline-swearing. Thiej
was, of course, fatal to the prosemilkm, at segardl4l
this case.
William flee said, he was guard to the Asiiiiiry
Flirter Coach, in the employment of Mr. Fagg.. On
the 17th of September last he went one of hi% regular
journeys, and returned to town on the 19th.• Ac.
cording to custom, soon after his arrival he paid into
the hands of the Prisoner the receipts entered upon.
the way-bill ; they-amounted to 121. 16,. 6d. and the
Prisoner gave him the usual sort of receipt, signed J.S.'
Thomas Fagg sairl;.-he was one of the propiieiors
of the coach mentioned, and that the Prisoner was
his immediate clerk; who received and settled all the
Cash affairs. The cash accounts were settled every
week. Upon hlspecting his "books,'llo such entry
of pay mem, as that proved to ;have been made try
Roe, was to be found. On the contrary, the Pri.
sower had its three separate places entered on that
date " Roe—nothing—nothing—nothing." • The
Prosecutor first discovered the freed by one.-of 'his
.partners in the country debiting him- with- the
121. 161. 641. as it appeared upow the way-bill..
'Mr. Alderman WAITRMAN considered this a case
which could not beat presetrt got over ; but left it fb
the discretion of Mr. Fagg, whether he •wiiiiiehave
the Prisoner again remanded, for the purpose of
proving any other of his cases against him.
.Mr. flastmxtt, for Mr. Fagg, replied, not.- The
present case was sufficient for a commitment; anti
previous to the trial other cases might be prepared,
to be laid before the Grand Jury. •
Mr. ANDREWS, far the Prisonee, eilinitted that
there was no alternative but to commit 'him; but lie
had hoped that Mr. Fagg would not run the risk of
mooing himself, by adopting a prosecution, when
a little reflection might tell him that, in'the,manage.
merit of so large a concern as his Wei,- the 'extent of
the Prisoner's crime might yet prove a Mistake.
Mr. Fagg was happy to reply to this, as it afforded
him an opportunity of proving that there was'nothing
vindictive in w hat he did. The Prisoner had before
been deficient in his account*, to-The amount of near-
ly 5001. and no prosecution was instituted. Since
that time, a defalcation of 2001. more was discovered,
Mt every hour disclosed some additional loss. As
to the idea of a mistake, how could such an inference
kediavin when the Prisoner, Instead of entering its*
hem of-121 16s. W., paid him, deliberately rite.
*own, "Roe—nothing?"
e Prisoner Was fully committed for trial.
ROBBERY OF MR.. HORDF.R'S HOUSE.
- Three persons, Mary Anne Thornburg, Mr.,
Herder's maid-sensor, Light,
a resurrection'mars,
and a charwoman, were •eznmiried
dayhefore Alderman Worruatax, in consequkote of
whose sitting the Office was much crowded: The.
Prisoners were suspected to have been concerned fa.
the robbery of Mr. Herder's house, in Earl-street, ow
Monday week last. A great deal of evidence which
had been taken privately, was read over.• Aldermen
Gooneeugee assisted in the examination, and•both
Magistrates agreed in the propriety of admitting the
charwoman as an evidence ; both declared that they
were perfectly assured of her innocence ; but though
they judged it ex pedienl to dismiss the other two, aftei
es most minute investigation, they did not do so wirtiout
having expressed their opinions, that there may strong
-reason for suspecting them of having been accessory
to the robbery.
M AR ERottoutaft-sTREET.--Ann While alias Milkr.
was re.ersmined, charged with dicers depredations
on the property of trsdespeople.—Remanded.
BOIV-STREET•WiIIiam Cartwright, the driver of
the Bognor roach, wits chergril by the Surveyor of
Charing.cross, employed by the inhabitants of that
neighbourhood to keep the streets clear, with stop-
ping and abstrecting the King's highway on tiator•
day, for 23 minutes, opposite the Ship public-house.
The correctness of the charge was not disputed; but
the dormice set up was, that the Ship was a booking.
house for pass ligers and parcels of. the Bogner coach,
anti that the time it was stopping on Saturday was
only while the coach its reloading the passengers,
luggage, .and•parcels.
_

The Act of Parliament not admittiOg of any Pleases
for stopping %tub a length of time in the public Streets
or King's highway, the Defendant was convicted in
the lowest penalty and costs.
The MAGItTRATE ohaerred to the Surveyor, that
he hoped he filled his Office with impartislity,snd that
he did not allow some coaches to stand in the streets
unmolested and prosecute others.
U'n. Ilamettun was 'convicted of allowing his
horses to remain upwards of half an hour, on the Bth
inst. in the jf symarket,
OUFEN-SQVARE.—On Tomday." Richard Lach, who good
charged wi.lr the murder of *his wire. friary Ann Loseh, was
up from 'nollll-fields Prhost for float examination.—
' Al the a tanewer *lid gave e%idesice on the Inquest were ex-
amined, het nothing reeds tranviretl: nuL MAGISTRATE called
opens the Prisoner Writs detetireoit she *acne limo cautioning
I him agnited mating any thing against himself. lie replied,
that lw had nuthin4 to say at present, lie was fully committed
fot trtitl. •

A few days ago, a fine woodcock was killed in
Cliiwwood, "Per Swink'', by * rattketger of the
Duke of Beaufort.