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"LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 7, 1814 • PRICE 6114

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SALES.

PERIAL PARLIAMENT.

keep up the price of cortii,•!P4n;ifescriptien of nub
could biro suck en objeetYlent the ett.!qt of tie
present measure would he not to raise, but ultimate
ly to reduce considerably the price of corn :,-end it
the mean time, it would hare the advantage of ren
dering the price of corn much more steady men
had fur some time been. This would be a acn
desirable effect. The Noble Earl's notion aCto; th:
connection between -the ;nice of labour and that u
corn was also altogether absurd, as. he wouSl she%
by reasoning, and also by documents. He
iwoull
ihow by these documents, that the prime of corn aril
often low when that of labour was high, 40
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HOUSE OF LORDS, Joao 6'
In the Appeal Agnew r. Agnew and others, Mr. Leach and
Mr. Horner were heard for the Appellant ; Sir !tonality, Mr.
Deli, and Mr. Abercminby, for the Respondents.—Judgment
postponed.
la the Appeal Hepburn v. Representatives of Hepburn, the
jadgment of the Court below was reversed. -
The'Physicians College Bill was read a second time.
The Scotch Creditors' Hill, and Scotch ClergymenN Wi-
dows' Provision Rill, were brought up from the C,ommona. to-
atberwith 16 Private Hills, by the Lord Advocate of Scot-
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CORN LAWS.
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The Duke of Rutland, the Earl of Loa:date,
Lord

Bulkley, Lord Berringdon, and others, pre-; when that of labour was low. They had no ,
serried Petitions tram Sunderland, Derby, Plymotok; sary connection with each other. He couledot a.
and'Other places, against the Corn Lairs low the Noble Earl's sentiments to do snit to tit
The Duke or Sussex presented two Petitioas to the. public without even now making :these observe
mime effect from the Ward of Cripple rite, and en.; lions.
other Ward, in the City of London. These-were; Lord STANHOPE would show. the Noble Earl
laid on the table. Some of them signed by about who spoke last, that his (Lauderdale's) riotions.were
6000 persons. ; perfectly absurd end unfounded. The Noble Earl,
. Lord STANHOPE then rose and stated, that he for example, had stated, that he (Stanhope)had said
hiid several Petitions this day to present on the sub- tbat certain persons had the intention to mite the
jest of the proposed alteration in the Corn Laws, price of corn and bread upon the poor. He had said
and be might say, that he was very happy to present no such thing as that such was the intention., He
them, for a more objectionable, a worse considered, j had only stated that such would be the consequence;
or a more ill-digested and more mischievous measure,l that they had blundered the business. The Noble
never had been pr7ared by any set of men. There i Earl nodded assent to that, which was as much as
'were some persons, the tendency of whose endea- to say, that it was perfectly well_ founded. Ile in.
yours was to raise or keep up the price of bread, so as sisted that the price of provisions must affect -the
not to allow the poor to get it at a reasonable rate : price of labour, manufactures, and commerce, and
but if that were done, what would be the conse- even our naval greatness, so as to reduce the means
quence Why this—that the price of labour would of national defence.
also he high ; and what would he the consequence of The Petitions_ were laid on the table.
that ? The consequence must be, that the prices ofi TR EAT OF PEACE.
manufactures must be high, in order to indemnify or The Earl of LIVERPOOL presented the Treaty
repay the manufacturer the high price which he paid of Peace, of which he gave notice that he shoJid
for the labour of his workmen. The consequence move the consideration on Thursday se'tinight.
of that again must be, that fewer labourers would ! Lord GRENVILLE had expei.ted that all Ert-
he employed, and that our manufacturers at onld be rope would have concurred in the abolition of the
undersold in the foreign markets, as they could not Slave Trade as a great crime, as a system of the
stand a competition with the foreign manufacturers, worst piracy, which _ought no longer to . exist. He
who, owing to the cheapness of corn in their court. could not help now eapressisig the feelings of regret'
tries, might employ labourers at a cheap rale, and with which he. had mutate article in the Tienty on-
kring their commodities to market at a far less el, that head. If any thing could still be done, he:
pence. And as they might get hold of our most skit- hoped their Lordships would be ready to follow up
ful manufacturers, what was 10 prevent them from the resolution which they hail uustrintously adopted
bringing forward an equal or superior article? This on that subject.
they might do, because corn with them was cheap, Lord LIVERPOOL stated, that Ministers were
While with us it was door. [near, hear! from fully as anxious to have the tra'lick generally aho.
Lord Lauderdale.] The Noble Earl near him cried tithed as any men could he ; a std he only requested
hear, hear! be could not answer the Noble Earl's of their Lordships to suspend their judgments till the
speech, because he had made none • but he might subject of the treaty came to be discussed.
alto& to a certain pamphlet which the Noble Earl The discussion of the treaty was accordingly fixed
had published on this subject. A free importation , for Thursday se'onight.
had been stated by some to be objectionable in the Lord HARDWICKE gay. notice,ihat he should
proirent sircantowinces of the country ; and sti, per. Move the second reading• of the Corn Bill to-muro
haps, in one view it might be, for nothing could be row.
more mischievous that, a state of things in which this Lord LAUDERDALE hoped, that. tbe,,Co_mmit.
country should he brought to depend upon foreign tee, at least, would be deferred till Friday.
couetries to any great extent for its necessary sup.; Lord HARDWICLE said, there could be no ob.
plies of fitorn. A Foreign Power would then have
jection.
the menus of exposing this country to all the horrors •
The second reading of the Bill was accordingly
of famine. This was a situation of things which no fixed for to-morrow, and the House ordered to be
one could think desirable; but was there no other summoned.—Adjourned.
way of lowering the price of corn than by means of,
these Bills, and yet continuing the inducements to
rale/ 'as much corn in this country as should be
onassary the supply of the population ?.=
The 'proper way would be. if it could be done,
to reduce- the national debt, which was the great
cause of the high price of provisions. But that
could net be done, for the national creditors
were the mortgagees to whom Government had mort-
gaged the national estate, and the mot tgagees were
always to-he favonred more than the mortgagors in
justice. What, then, was to be done? Remove the
taxes. But that could not he done to ally very crest
extent, otherwise the interest of the national debt
would be left unpaid. Yet many of the taxes might
be taken off. Why not rake off the income tax, at
least to a greater extent ? It had been imposed upon
the allegation that it was not to be continued beyond
are duration of the war. Yet he understood that
it was the design of the Noble F.arl in the red
coat (Loral Liverpool wore a Colonel's uniform)
over the( way, who was their Commander-in-Chief,
at least in the way of finencelAo continue this tax in
a great degree. lie had tootle that certain taxes,
called assessed taxes, were to be taken off, which
ought to be continued, such as lazes on horses, dogs,
carriages, and so forth. These were taxes which,
for the most part, might be still retained, and those
who were liable to them ought to be still made to
pay. sit why not take off the taxes which fell up-
on the farmer as such, on the poor as such ? Why
not abolish the "taxes on candles, on soap, and that
most impolitic tax, the tax on salt? Why nt
or reduce the tax on farm horses, and such
fell directly on the farmer? Why not core
income tax as to the landlord, and abolir'
the farmer? By this means corn might ,
cheap without injuring the encouragement
bendry. The interests of the labouring dal
formed the bees of the community, ought
every attention and consideration ; and
taxes were reduced, they might return
system of corn laws which prevailed be'
tional debt had attained its present enortnoi
He concluded by presenting five petitions
proposed alteration in the Corn Laws from'
and severe' other parts of London and
Lord LAUDERDALE did not mean
ter particularly into the subject; but when
jest should come regularly before them
siori;heehrialte then prove that the Na
mockeries, were completely unfounded,
absurd, and even most pernicious. Where
the advantage of inflaming the minds of
by holding oat to them that it was the ii
certain persons to on their eadeavours

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CORN LAWS.
• A prodigtons number of Petitions were preseatea against the
proposed Coro Laws, and praying t4at their consideration might
he rust pooled till oextsession. Arno* the mistake rwere,petitions
from E trier. Cuattiam, Southwark, Leeds, Wakefield. Wol vet-
Bradtimd. Frame. Newport, in she Isle of Wight,
Holton, Burv, Lewes, Poole, Cottgleton, Norwich, Clmster,
Pontefract, Beverley, Wiorlieqer. Oxford, Caelva, Hammer-
smith, ClerLenwell, •trattOrd, And Kensington. !litany of
those Petitions ere signed by the greater part of the
lohaht-
tunts.

new petitions were received, nod ordered to Be OS the
table.

sir. TllO- presented a petition from the won and
'neighbourhood of Goibilming, and her from the corporation
and town of Itingoon, against the Corn Hill, lie presented-
abm a petition of .he ion ners and nertillets of lanifs.aw-r..e
colony of S.lrrey, praying t. at their !merest in,igbt be ptc.
served, which they were or opinion mig,ht•fiellone, withont
kr to the inhabitants of (ireat Liritystn la general. Sir. Thorn-
ton stated, that tinder the conflicting opinions that existed on
this momentous subject, hr money recommended ikat time
'Mudd he given-to consider it more and to see if he con-
flicting interests might not he reconciled, and some measure
adopted that should besatisfactory to all classes of his Majesty's
subjects.
Mr. CANNING presented a Petition on the &IMP subject
from Liverpool,. having 42,0.10 sign tires. He should not now
Five any opiuma on the ; but he must say, that it um •
emistentilde f.r any tinily who hail his e es ntino• him, and made
any observations on the feeling that prevailed oat of doers, no
to see that, in the present state of the country, unless there wa
some rest necessity for legislating Immed a‘eiv, it would L .
the height of impolsey to pro, eed to crklbe subject.-
the present inflamed stole of the ding. He believed
that the props sed measures bad been intech misunderstood ; but
still a great deal was necessary to he done, before not only many
enlightened men out of doors, but even many of the Members
of that House, should be so well ble to understand the subject-
in all its bearings, as to come to any satisfactory decision upon
It He considered that no legislative measure could he wise,
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dust was not thoroughly understood. and that aid-not carry
r not abolish
uch taxes
as
thew opiti,dornao, :ftahegruntanpiamrto;
treintoonpl:fwthiteh public,iteatoul,e4:7l
continue the gladly join in any propositi-n for postponing the measure till • •
tall it 1111 to next Session, that it might be duiroughly considered and unties-
stood, before any legislative measure should be decided on.
be rendered Gen. GASCOVNE considered, that it Would be dangerolv
ent of hus- to the peace of the country, to legislate precipitately on the-
class, which "4:_
bj tin the present state of the public mind.
Petition was received, and ordepted to lie on the table ;
it to receive asevas also a Petition from certain persons in Liverpool agititr4
Id if these the Apprentice Bill.
Lord CASTLEREAGH at this time entered the House, and
to the old was received with lone clout ing and clieering_. _
?fore the na- wATCIIMAIt ER9II)ETITMN.
ions amount. ! Sir W. CURTIS presented a petition from many
s against the watchmakers and clocktnakers, stating the import.
Whitehapel ance of their trade, in manufacturing goods to the
Middlesex. value of 500,00P1. annually, by British industry.
then to en. lt stated thellanger of their trade being ruined by
.•
hen the sub- the importation of foreign watches anti clocks, to
for discus. which the names of English workmen were often
fob's Earl's pat. They prayed the House to take their case info
I, perfectly , its considerttion, and to render more effectual the
ere could be . laws already existing for thelry.r.otection.
the people, Sir JOHN NEW POUT said, that it was „st .*„.
intention of k most extraordinary time that this petition from a
to raise or L body of artisans was presented. At a time that so
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