The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-16 00:00:00

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Cross-examined by Mr..lvssor.

The row h ippested in Wheeler's : the pri-
soners ed in New Conrt. When lie tir%t ..4a%% them,
the prisoners were running away from the deceased. ii ho,
with his parts, %%as mining alter them
James Cogiilan nas at the George the night in ques-
tion ; 14/W the deceased and the prisoner l'allaglian there.
Witness saw a great rosily others there whom he did not
know. disturbance then took !dare; WilLatit Dono-
van and his friends (une, and nrre drinking s/1:0,1° firer
sociably together. l:artliv looked sulki/g ; I all.tglan
got lip dam r, hot trartity 118.1tIled Ititu. They 11041
then a row amongst themselves. Ihmovan and his part?,
nithout taking ant' tinli,e of it, lett the room one by
one : Carthy•• party foillitteit them. Witttems then sou'
no wore of i 1 0 _ _

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Crosa.evamitte.l.—Witisess is a labouring man, and
has lodged at Illarkwall. Having nothing to do. hr
came up to the lieorre that 'grottiest. Tbe prisoner's.
party contdved of nine or ten ; rarthy's of three or four.
The de..eaard tray dis:larreeable. but Ca!aghast wit. very
civil to him. Ile saw no blows struck in the room. Ile
did Pot mean that blows were smirk by sayine there
was a row; hut that he milt. me int that they %%err
illiqacreral.le to each other. iritnesa did not go into
the ('mutt at all.

Jeremiah ilahony waq also at the George the night in
question. The aro-mint givess by risk witness tallied ea.
activ with that guru by the pretwiliag wittiest. lie dr.
▪ tiarthy as the aggressor. When the wattle was
L.-ginning. one of Cariii)'s party said, " It you are
going to light, let it he general t let es tight man to
ulna.— A noto.lo of a itmss's party tarn *Ala, they haul
better go out sit the
ed by these people. Witness in consequence left the
house as quirk ai pogsiblr. lie saw the prisoner Dono-
van VI nuts he left before hies. Witness is a labourer
living at Blarkwall.

Richard Thorn is the landlord of the George, is
fieorge-yard, which hr has kept sine? the 3.1 of Jnly
last. Witness left kis house to go into the City shoal
half past seven of the night in question. Knew tl:e de-
cesse.l. lee hail been working for witness that day. and
for some days preceding, ass lahouring war. Carthy
was in the house that evening, he was the Oily one
there. fur witams's wife hail caused the door to Ise shut;
this was after witness returned home, about Wail- at
night. Witness remonstrated with Carthy 4'r getting
drank, and causing the quarrel ; but he said it was not
his fault. Carthi was then drunk ;he bad hero so
through the whole afternoon, and witness ratty..ll to
serve him that same eves:tug. Witness saw him several
times the following day. hut had nu t-onverration with
him. The deceased came to work fur witness on the
Saturday morning. Carthy was drinking with his
friends all neat day in witness's house. 11. ((-311
on Saturday. how be wits r.tllyd a aav often to drink
with his friends. Witness saw him every day until be
went • the lioipital. On the Monday or Tuesday
moroint.f witness, on opening his door, found Cartily at
it, with a knot on his slraldt-r. tic e: • in. 111.1 his
head on the table in the tap-rootu, sad went to sleep.
lle said lie had been up all night. Witness eoutitian
is employ him every day until he went into the Hos.
l'eocqa-vaminetl.--The Grotee is about three miles
front filackwall. At half-past revert. when witness left
the lio•ro-,, there were not more than half a down per-
sons there. He (mild not sir who they were. Its never
raw the last it tines, there. Loghlan was there. Don't
:Wilk hr saw Alahotty there.
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11l ausiter to a question from the Coort, the %invite
said he saw Carthy, the deceased, with his head cut, and
two Mach ryes only it'll days la•( re.
Mary Nl•lienttedy knew the deceased Cattltv ; re-
members ti, Sunday followitix the slay of th. ruee at the
George. Witness danced i% ith him that day about lour
o'clock in the afternoon. They had a large party, per-
haps three dozen of people were there. They had a
piper. They &lured in a I ein the same conrt,
where the prisoners lived ; they danced fur a matter of
three 1 r.. They had no drink then. The door ot•
the house gave way. and they all fell into the cellar.
Civilly and the piper fell with them. After Carthy Fut
up, witness silW Will, and asked if he felt any thing
hurt ? lie sai•l. •` Yes, a little on my head." Witness
s.y %%heftier Jerry had any thing to comfort him-
self after his

Cros4-examintul.—Witness is a married woman. The
hall he. an about live o'clock in the evening. It was
Jerry who introduced the piper, and brought them to
the empty house. She dill not mean to say drat Jerry
loured hor direr hours. 'Flory often changed partuerc.
Ile never complained until after hr fell into the cellar.
Michael !Airy was at the datum, on the Sunday even-
ing, in New l'oort. l'artlov was there. He danced. It
was lie who brought the piper. Witness picked lop Cat-
thy after his fall. The blood was dutch's:: from his nose.
Ile took him into the Hear r, offered bin' souse shrink,
but Carty said his head and his heart were bruised, and
that he should never get over it.
John Ilicknott is beadle to the London Hospital, and
remembers the deceased coming there. Hr got le.ove to
go out the savior slay he was admitted, at his own request.
He returned in the evening between seven and eight
o'clock. He was intoxicated when he returned.
Several witnesses came forward who described the
prisoners as persons of industrious habits and humane
dispositions.
Mr. Baron OR tIIAM summed up the evidence tea the
Jur•. The defence set sup by the prisoners respecting
the dance, his Lordship treated as a mere fabrication.
With regard to the evidence generally, the question was,
whether the prisoners hail been guilty of murder or of
manslaughter: That was, however, a question eutirrly
for the consideration of the Jury : and he wished them
to draw their eonelossious fr the evidence they lied
heard, rather than from any thing he might say to them.
If there was any doubt on their 'Moils, in a case u here
the lives of four rrsons were at stake, he desired them
to give the prisoners the full bettrlit of it.
The Jun• retired for about an lemmand; within a few
ioinow.of eight o'clock, brought in all 4e prisoners
gitifty 04. 31anshughter.

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