The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-09-05 00:00:00

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at the Mansion-Hotise; donut( the Mayoralty of the
Hon. Bironet, the item in question was 6001.'for
fitting op a ballroom on the Hon. Baronet's birth
night ; from this, .it appeared, the itch for expendi-
ture ran in the blond, it was an old trick, and called
for correction. The lion. Baronet bore the cha•
ratter of a spirited and liberal-minded man, and the
Court had voted him its thanks for his munificence
and liberality, but at the time they did so, they
wore ignorant he was aiding in taking 20001. out of
the public purse. He concluded by moving, that
the Report should be referred back to the Committee;
to reconsider and report anew upon it.
—7'After some observations from Mr. Alderman Hey.
gate, Mr. Alderman Goodbehere, Mr. Griffiths, Mr.
!White, and Mr. Waithman, the latter Gentleman
agreed to his motion standiug as a notice on the pa.
prat for a future day. • '1
A petition from Thomas Hodson, Esq. praying to
be discharged from his election to the office of Sheriff,
Ss account of indisposition, was presented and read,
sad after considerable debate, and a division, wat
carried in the negative, there being fur complying
with the petition 21, and against it 36.
• John Leech, Wm. Roebuck, and Isaac Hensley,
&qrs. were discharged from their nomination to the
office of Sheriff, on their each having paid into the
Chamber the sum of 4001. and 20 marks, with the
usual fees.

Pence; ntatr from revising, commerce, will, in all used to forte!, that America would soon make her
humor prnhilitv, have a contrary' elect in I•:,,gland. own cloth. He smiled, and said he supposed she
The rile wars have been different in their effects on would in half a century. There are only four years
commerce from former wars. They swept the sea gone yet of the half-century. I have forgotten his
of all commerce bit our awn. They mode all the name ; but he has not forgotten mine ; and, if he will
world hihntary to us. The 'pinfits of the world's write to me, when he comes to London again, I will
commerce cenired 'here. By the meant of our loans send him up my Albany suit of clothes, that he may
mid taxes we obtained a force sufficient to effect these judge how long it will be before his half-century will
purposes. But this cannot continue in Oace. Other expire.
nations will have each it, share or commerce. Our Nevertheless, I suppose, that a great deal of
navy, withdrawn from the ocean, will leave the na- woollen goods will still he exported to America from
tines of the world s's •Hborty to communicate with England, unless new obstacles are created. But, it
each ether. Anil, air every ship of ours must sail will, perhaps, require but very little to turn the ba-
loaded N% Mt a part of nor debt, othet nations will be lance against us. Beyond a certain price we cannot
• ..able to sail mod carry goods cheaper. If we attempt go, as it is now evident, for it is now proved, that
• te•present this by force, it is wet. again. More loans. America can, and does, make large quantities of
• -If we remain quiet, we sink in the general scale, and - woollen goods of all sorts. Let her demand diminish
particularly with regard to America, which most mach and the manufacturers will follow. They will
keep rising in the ClialMelCiel scale. go, and they must go, where they are wanted; and,
As to Niarrufneteres, whether the Government besides, by going thither, they pay off their share of
or. Aii,erien um pass laws to protect their own our Debt; or, which is the same thing to them, they
*gains: ours 1 know not. That will depend more leave us, who remain, to pay the interest of it, 'till
upon its view of political effects on a larger scale they come back.
than Thal of mere Custom-house calculations. But, i As to working manufacturers, they follow each
it is pretty rertein, that something will be done in other like the sheep of a flock. One goes; he
this o ay, as the President recommended it in his writes home to another, that he may dine every day
last Message 'o the Cnngrets. So that our manu. upon good meat, and once a week, at least, upon
(*admen., going loaded with' their full shire of our turkey or goose. Away goes another; and so on.
erroneous and everlasting debt, together with freight, ' And, the worst of it is, that the young, strong, un-
inturauce, and shipping expences, and having to en- married, and enterprising go, leaving behind those
• cnenter a pretty heavy duty in America, must, even who are aged,feebte, timid, or encumbered with name-
as things now stand, have a hard struggle to make tons families. Those who go will be such as have full
. their way to any great extent. At any rate, they confidence in their health and abilities; while those
ti's go upon a very different footing from that on. that remain will have an eye to the poor-house. As GUlLDHALL.—Yesterday, twenty persons were
which they formerly went, ' And yet you would lay to mechanics and manufacturers, emigration is a . brought to thus office, most of whom had been in
• a'tax "pots the wool, of which the principal of ma- sieve, that lets through the grain and leaves the'chaff . custody since Saturday night. Nearly fifty witnesses
. nuf-c:ur,ss is made. Arid you applaud the tax upon ' behind. : were in attendance. Not an Alderman, however,
Corn. which enhances the wages of the man who And how is this great evil to he prevented? Ido could he found to preside, and the Prisoners were
makes the woollen goods. Yes, such is the state of not know, that it is to be prevented at all ; but, .1 necessarily re-conducted to prison.
things. ire which you would adopt measures to snake am sure it is not to be prevented by laws made to • BOW-STREET.—Yesterday, a respectable Bills
woollens higher in price than they now are. punish emigration. If prevented, it must be by al-, , broker in the city was brought to the office, charged
• The imlucements to emigrate to America are so fording the manufacturers full employment at home; • with obtaining a bill from a lady to get discounted
• great, that every thing should be avoided which this cannot he, unless wo can sell cheaper than any for the amount of 9001. for which Ite told her he had
tends to discourage the manufacturers at home. You other'country ; and, if wool and food be a great deal only been able to obtain 1001. whereas she charged
a ill say, that there are laws to punish those who dearer here than in any other country, it is iuiporrsi.. him with having obtained the whole of the' amount,
entice manufacturers to go out of the kingdom, and ble that we can long continue to sell cheaper. The and having applied 1001. of the money to his own
also these who attempt to export machines. What obvious conclusion„then, is, that we should do every use.
use these laws are of your Lordship will easily guess, thing in our power to keep dowq the price of the raw The Prison2r declared his innocence, and professed
now that you have seen so many machines at work , material, and the food of the manufacturer; and, hir readiness to fully explain his conduct, which he
in America. In 1811, I told your Lordship that therefore, that, not only ought there to be no tax had no doubt would be satisfactory to the lady.
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POLICE.

this would he the case. I was, at that time (Nov.
2, 1810 endeavouring to prevent the war ; and, in
answer to those who pretended to laugh at the effects
of an Embargo in America, I made the following
remarks, now well worthy of being called to mind.
" In the articles, upon which I have been ob-
serving, mention is made of a design on the part of
the American Government to lay an Embargo, at
which measure our writers affect to laugh. They say
that America has tried it before, and was glad to
abandon it. They do not advert to the change that
has since taken place in the situation of America ;
they do not perceive, that, since the year 1807,
America has reared. manufactories nearly equal to
•the supply of her own snots. Lord Sheffield, at
she lass Lewes Wool Fair, fell into the same mis-
take. lie thi,re told his hearers, that America most
d. a! with us r-r cloth ; that she could obtain it in no
other cwortr ; that, if she excluded our woollens
for a year or tr..), slip must make up for it by larger
imprtllicils afro' wards. How deceived he was !
How :kite did he know of n hat had taken place in
America during the last four years ! how little did he
know of the immense quantity of woollen since that
time, fabricated iu the American States !—The I
present Non-importation Law will tend to increase
the manufacturing establishments in America ;
manufacturers will follow the manufactories; and
capital will fellow too, where capital is wanted. Of
the raw material America will have a superabundance,
and manufacturers are soon taught. The following
paragraph from the Times, three days ago, will af-
ford a specimen of what is, and lorg has been, going
on :•••-•-4 Yesterday se'tinight a discovery was made at
Liverpool, which is of considerable importance to
our manufactories. In consequence of private in.
formation rneived by Mr. Miller, Superintend-
:lot of the Polices, .at Liverpool, that a man of the
name of Wagstaff had arrived iii Liverpool from
•Prlatichester, for the purpose of conveying imple- ,
'merits used in manufactures to America ; Mr.
.found Wagstaff out, and watched his
'in or imetits. lie observed him go ,several times on ,
'board the American ship called the Nowa Vernon,
bound to New York. The information Mr. Miller
"Hid received stated, that the implements were in
bases ; and yesterday se'nnight he observed Wag- -
staff assisting in loading a cart with boles, and then
swatchert them to the water-side, and continued his
'observatinns till he saw some of the boxes put on
board the Mount Vernon; the offence not being corn.
plete till the boxes were put on hoard. Mr. Miller.
then took IYagstaff into custody, and seized 23
boxes. On opening them, they proves, to contain
spindles, which are used in the spinning of cotton.
The prisoner was taken befori James Drinkwater,
Esq.. the Mayor, and has been committed to Lan-
taster Castle, for trial at the ensuing Assizes, ander
the Act of 21 Geo. 111. chap. 37.' Does the reader
believe that these spindles would have been pur-
chased if there had not been hands in America to
use them ? The Non-importation Act of America
would have prevented the lauding of the spindles ;
but the shipper knew, doubtless, beforehand, that
he could ship them without risk, and that a relaaa.
firm of the law would be obtained in his favour.—
Well : the spindles will not go in this instance; but, •
is it to be believed, that prevention will take place
in all cases ? And, if that were possible, what
then ? Why then the spindle-makers would go to the
place where spindles are wanted to be made."
.• Now, my Lord, who was right and who wrong ?
I do not know what was done to Mr. Wagstaff;
but, I know this, that I have shown you 690 cotton
spindles at work in "rue mill on the Pennepack Creek ;
and, you may see, that they are an article of common
rile in that country, whither Mr. Wagstaff, less than
tour years ago, was shipping them. This shows how
utterly impracticable is the enforcement of any inch
laws. I remember a Yorkshire clothier, who very
kindly called to see me, in Newgatc, in 1810, 1811,'
and 1812, while I was imprisoned for two years for
Writing about the flogging of the English Local Mi.
litilmen, at the town of Ely; wider the superin-
tandance of German troops. To this gentleman I

COMMON COUNCIL.

Yesterday a Court of Common Council was held
at Guildhall, which was fully attended.
THE KONG'S STATUE.
The minutes of the proceedings of last Court were
read by the officer, from which it appeared that the
Court had agreed to the Report of the Committee, de.
tailing the expenses attending the erection of his Ma-
jesty's statue in the Council Chamber.
Mr. WAITIMAN objected to the precipitancy with
which this Report had been hurried forward. It was
a report respecting the expenditure of public money,
and by the standing orders of the Court, a notice
should have been given of its being brought up, in-
stead of nhich no notice was given, and it was
brought up during his absence; the Worthy Alder-
man, Sir W. Curtis, knew it was his (Mr. Waith-
mill's) intention to oppose it. Had he been present
he should have objected, not to the statue indeed,
which better judges than himself said was excellently
executed, but to the expense, particularly to one
item of 8901. no account of the application of which
was given in the Report at all. Ile did not visa to
say any thing harsh upon the conduct of the lion.
Baronet who was Chairman of that Committee in his
absence (Sir W. Curtis), he hoped to be able to dis-
cuss the subject when he was present ; but what he
asked was to have this Report referred back to the
Committee, to state how the 8901. had been es.
pended. He would here beg leave to recal to the
minds of the Court the origin of this statue: about
four years ago an eminent artist hail executed a bust
of his Majesty, and requested the then Lord Mayor
would allow it to be placed in the Council Chamber
for public inspection. It was then stated, that a
well-executed bust of the King would not cost more
than 100 guineas, and a whole length figure bet
little more. A full length figure, therefore, it was
determined shoufd be ordered, and placed in the
Council Chamber, and a Committee was appointed
to superintend the work. The* Hon. Baronet was
named Chairman, the work was now finished, and
the Committee had reported the expellee at 20001
lie wished to know the items of tMs extraordinary
sum, especially of the 8901. Ile had heard it loudly
whispered, that a dinner, which cost 5001. was given
out of it, but lie had not yet learnt who authorized
such an expenditure—it was not a Corporation
dinner, for the Lord Mayor did not preside. One
thing he had learnt, and that was, that the Hon.
Baronet had invited all the guests. The worthy
Baronet was indeed an Alderman, and as such had
great privileges; but he knew of none which authq,
rized him to expend 5001. of the public money in -tt"
sumptuous feast. If he ordered such dinners, he
ought to have paid for them out of his own pocket.
Here he could not avoid adverting to an item 'which
had jest met his eye, in the account of ,?apenditure

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Two journeymen Tailors were brought up to the
laid upon wool, but that the Corn Bill ought to bit
repealed. Office by Dickons, charged with riotously and
And now, my Lord, in taking my leave of your tumultuously assembling, with a great number of
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Lordship, suffer me to express my hope, that, after other journeymen tailors, at the Scotch Arms public-
comparing the undeniable facts, contained iu these house, in Bedford-bury, a house of call for jour-
Letters, with your prophecies of 1811, you will re, neymen'tailors, which consists of upwards of 300
solve never to prophecy again ; or, at least, if you Memberi.
should, that the Wool-growers will not again keep, On Friday about half of the members of this no-
their wool, at your recommendation, in expectation merous body were assembled in grand council, when
of a higher price. Lord Chichester, it appears, told a brother snip, of the, name of John Iltslydays, not
these persons, assembled at Lewes, in 1811, that, cond'6cting himself in a manner
!that- was agreeable to
they were under great obligations to your Lordship, `the laws and customs of this -Wound body, the. Pri-
loneri, tv.i,th the asssistance of ethees the assembly,
without whose information, they would have been
under great difficulty to form a conjecture as to the turned him out of the club-room, threw him down
real value of their wool. Just as if the market stairs, stabbed him with a bodkin needle, so that he
would not have taught them I By hallowing your lost a pint' of blood by the wounds and bruises, and
Lordship's advice, some of them kept up their wool,
,other'ill-treatinent, which he had received.
of which a continually falling price must have made Its explanation of this bloody battle and confusion
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them sorely repent. The old adage, that "a thing is of the knights of the thimble and the shopboarti, it
turd out that the scene of confusion commenced in
worth what it will bring," applies to every vendible
commodity, to all trades, to all countries, and to all. the club-room, in consequence of the Secretary being
charged with embezzling the enormous sum-of 3s. 61.
times. The Market is the only criterion of value
with the trader of sense : other grounds of calculi-
In answer to the charge, the l'risoners stated,
Lino are left for the visionary and the speculator.
that the Prosecutor had been fined five times, Is. each
lime, for disorderly conduct, and he net desisting
from It, their laws directed that he should he turned
Out sir the room.. They denied pushing him flown
; stairs;but said the stairs.were close to the room-door
out of which he was pot, and _that he tumbled
' down the stairs.
The Magistrates observed, that it appeared they
wanted to enforce their laws in a similar manner as
the jockies did at Newmarket, by flogging or horse-
whipping, if they (lid not ply the fines and keep the
laws. in this case a great deal more violence had
been used than was necessary, although the Prosecu-
tor had conducted himself improperly, which he had
frankly acknowledged. The Prisoners were there-
fore ordered to find bail.
John Watson was charged with robbing the house
of Mrs. Mary Stole, in Bullencourt, Strand, of a
looking-glass, a counterpane, and various other
articles.
ft appeared that the Prisoner had hired a ready-
furnished lodging in the house, and took with him a
young woman, whom he represented as his wife, but
who proved to be a frail one. The next morning he
made off with the above property. He was afterwards
met by accident, and taken into custody. Ile was I
committed for further examination.
QUEEN-W.7AR E.—Yesterday one of the Collectors
of Tills at Queen's Elms-gate, appeared before ‘V M.
FIELDING, Esq. pursuant to an iuformattion laid
against him by Mr. George Forbes, of Hatton-gar-
den, which charged hint with taking 22d. for the
toll of a horse on Sunday, the '27th of August, in-
formate having offered the ticket which he received
at Hyde Park-corner-gate.
Mr. Forbes swore to the facts, in which he was
corroborated by Mr. Wm. Hall, of Bury-street, St.
James's.
The Defendant, in his defence said, tl.at his ab-
sence was indispensable for a few mioutes on the day
mentioned, and that during that pet iod he put a mon
there, who, if he took the toll, must irate unititen-
tiomi;!y erred.
!his statement, however, was contradictefl by Mr.
I Forbes and Mr. flail, who positively asserted, that
the Defendant was present at the time, and that when
the ticket was shown him, he answered—" It won't
,do, a tickets no use on a Sunday." Ile was con-
' victed in the penalty of 40s. and costs.
7'honsus Curtis, a vagabond a:id a pauper of Chet-
sea, sometimes residing in its Workhouse, was
charged, OD the oath of John Ellis, with picking
the pocket of an infirm and crippled soldier of some
I notes. Knowing that this soldier had money about
him, having been at ChelseO, he proffered assistance
to the invalid ; and while so attending him, he con.
%rived to steal the property in question. Ellis, not -
'liking the conduCt or character of Curtis, watched
kind sow the whole transaction.—Committed, •
tali the
crippled soldier can appear.
was char ed
It ase der.
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