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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE O■ LORDS. Mot DAr

AYATT presented a petition from the Ship,
the Port of London, against any &heretics
on timber. They stated, as a prairie
condition of their trade, that they hod;
rarest period, kept 10,000 men in employmeit,
now they had not employment for one-third
number. They expressed themselves favour-
) protection given to the produce of our own
considering the duties on Baltic timber well
secure that monopoly to our trade, which
-Amid carefully promote.—Laid on the table.
Mr. Wii.sorr presented a petition from the Ship-
teeters of the Port of London, to the same effect as
be former. The intention of taking off the protecting
duties on Baltic timber, he understood, arose from
the policy of conciliating the Northern Powers; but
he believed that, in consequence of the liberty of the
pm* and the free admission of newspapers iato the
iNiwthern imautries, the Potentates of that part of the
11/1/di hum* this time, acqsaiated with the extent
of oar national debt, and the ducally we labour
under as to oar resources; and it was impossible that,
knowing this, they could grudge the continuation of
this tax on their exports. It was his firm conviction
that if the proposition for lowering the protecting
duties were carried into effect, it would annihilate our
trade in timber with the North American colonies. It
might be shown, perhaps, that the Baltic article was
cheaper than that which was imported from North
America; but he would contend that the trade which
empioyid so much of our shipping, must be, upon the
whole, the most advantageous for the country.
Sir W. Cu*: is hoped the House would give every
attention to the petition of a most respectable set of
me*. He supported the petition.
Mr. M•anerrr said, he was a friend to the prayer
of the petition. He reminded the House of the de-
terioration of the value of ships within the last few
ran. Every ship now in use might be considered as
having been built during the war, and consequently
built a% the highest charge. lie himself built a ship
in 1810, and purchased another—each of which cost
14,0001. The deterioration of the value might be
stated at 4,0001., reducing the amount to 10,0001.
Hsi could assure the House, however, that they were
not now calculated to be worth much more than 3,800/.
each. On the close of the war the shipping interest
was held up by the opening of the private trade to
India by means of the new charter. Another branch
of profit to this country was the carrying trade to the
Mediterranean. Up to 1817 we enjoyed exclusively
the pass of that important sea, all other flags either
risking their capital, or paying the war duty on their
policies. A The war, however, which we carried on with
Ooi a Dey Algiers, put an end to this monopoly, and
teriniested by placing all the powers of &trope on •
level with is. The third branch of profit which we
alloyed was the carrying of timber from our own co-
Mies; which frelm P 41,000 tuns iireemeed lam year to,
340,000 tons. The Hon. Member them adverted to
the petition of the merchants of the city of London,
recommending a free trade. said, after some comments,
that if that recommendation were carried into effect,
it would involve the destruction of a great Inas, of the
country. Every power in Eutope baring colonies
adopted the policy of imposing protecting duties in fa-
vour of the produce of those colonies. Why then
should the same policy be censured in as ? But it was
strange that the Northern Powers should conceive the
tting duties on timber to have been laid on the
t: export of that article out of hostility to theirs.
pg:kilithe contrary, our giving a monopoly to the colonies
was the resdlt of their hostility to us. When they had
shit us out from all communication with them we
were compelled to look for a resource in our colonies;
.and in justice to these at least, we should not now
abandon them. After stating the great increase of
the carrying trade from North America, the Hon.
Member, In answer to an objection respecting the
small number of emigrants iu that country, observed,
that according to information derived from his own
correspondents, the tide of emigrations from the United
, States to North America was now setting in. The
great object of our nommunication with North Ame-
rica was not so much the article of timber itself as the
freight. A ship could only make one voyage in the
year between this and North America, whereas she
could make several voyages in the year between this
and the Baltic. Besides, it was well known that in
the voyage to the Baltic more was paid for the timber
and less for the freight ; but that in a voyage from
North America less was paid for the timber, but more
freight. The effect of annihilating the trade with
serial, would be to throw 1,300 ships oat of em-
ploy. The seamen, to the amount of 17,634, who na-
ted these vessels, no longer fimling employment at
, would be compelled to transfer their services to
ign powers. The price of home tinaber IV as now
'scarcely sufficient to remunerate the grower. But if
the Baltic timber were admitted, the consequence
would be a still farther deterioration of the home pro.
duce. He begiod to remind the House, that there was,
equal jastice in taking off the proteeing duty of corn,
es in removing that of timber; and he was well aware,
that if the duty of the latter were repealed, it would
be only a prelude to the removal of the leiportatiod
duty on corn. He deprecated the impoliey of entail-
ing commercial concerns with foreigners. The IMO
a country did so, the more she endangered her pros;
Ffiry. The Americans were seeking to coerce us;
t, by keeping ap oar navy, we should be enabled to
y their power. Our motto, Dieu et men Drat, we
alsould always adhere by, and weer !beget it to the
Wt. He should now convlade—(a laugh)—by re
eounnending that this petition be taken into the soo
dons consideration of the Moose.
Mr. RAltl7lo observed, that with the exceptiel.Mr
she timber trade alone, the ship-ownen would miller
lilfected in their Worms by the proposition which ha.
ilmiumelml to sisbadt in reference to the subject Of thiiii
110111diess tie should not, however, now go into any
particulars whh reward to that branch of the Baltic

The House proceeded i■ Appeals.
An account of wines imported was
lerringe--Ordered to be printed.
The Prue Port Bill, the Cape of Good
Bill, the Navigation Bill, the Cestotns
and some local Bills, were brought
House of Commons, by Mr. B►ogden,
Mt. Go ,eh, Sir John Iloughey, and
and read a first time.

The Earl of Winchelsea's Indemnity Bill was read
a second and third time (the commitment being nega-
tived), and passed.
A petition from William Cobbett, of Bottley, Hants,'
farmer, was presented by Lord HOLLAND; complaining
that by the rise in the value of money, commis/0
upon the Act for the Resumption of Cask Parma"
the suns (13,0004) for *chick ha. had nnititgefiit de,
estate he bad bought at Batley (and for which the
executor of the mortgagee now threatened to foreclose),
was equivalent now to nearly double that amount. He
therefore prayed to have the value of money again re-
duced, or such other relief as to the House should
seem meet.—.--Ordered to lie upon the table.
Adjourned till to-morrow (this day).
NOUSE OF COMMONS, Mort Dav, hm&

LADI4B
sof Attar
enapailible ziartly lin:11;ft to
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and HONNSIII, tee se SALE at Aidersgate-lioaaa, eor-
ntr of flarbicau, London.

Saralee !Rebore Bowels. from 411 s. to three ohms ;
:split Straw, from lie. to ss. ; Devoe and Dunstable, as.
bd. to ils. great varlet) of Young Ladies' and Childresa'
Lcithors and straw Hata and Bonnets.
!Calmar. Flowers, mad Feathers. Straw and Legherh
E.norets cleared, altered. sad fashieeably trimmed.

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••• Country and Foreign Orders executed.
N. B. Wanted a Showrooms that thoroughly understands
the Retail Trade.

Royal Ezehenge Oate,)
86, Comblll. fd June, 1830.
tf4, Ozford-street,
FOUR OF 1110,000 IN THE WHEEL, AND ONLY
ONE DAY TO DRAW.
ILMIAND h Co., Uontractors, gratefully thank the
Palle Tor their Patronage, and beg to express their
hApplathsthat TRIRIR PLAN to 'monster Purchaser* *Mickel'
andliberee between the 18th May and Ist Jame from Risk on
theist June, received such universal approbation. H
Ce.estreet those Purcl as tim at their Ofices,who i steed rosters-
* their Tickets and Moires. to far oar him with them es Boos
u evavenient, for all the Tickets having been sold before
the Ist June, there wall), none, ezeept melt Tickets and
&ores as may be returned to meet the demand .for the Lin.
AND ONLY DAY or DRAWING, which most probably will
ready either, the supply, as the annals of Lotteries cannot
farina en thanker. in any way approaching to the
P r S or ram WltesL.
FOUR OR IND PRIZES of 230,000, EACH! with
88 OTHER CAPITALS, Mosey and Consols,
AND ALL MUST BE DRAWN
Oa FRIDAY. 21d of June. wham the Lottery &Ridges.
II & Co. beg to acquaint these who lathed returning
twir Tithes or Shares, that, should either of the Numbers
returned be drawn One of the FOUR 210.000 Prizes, the
Perim so returning the Ticket or Share gives up all claim
to the 280,0110 Prize, or indeed to any other Capital or Prize
that the Number or Numbers so released stay be draws.
ihmteouse see PCRSON holdits a Ticket wish to retain
muly pent of thet Ticket, Wishes Co. will with peat
pismire dare seek Ticket, and 10 the Purchaser taka What-
erersait et It he pigeon.
Basses at Co. shared and sold la the last Lottery Contract
Nos. 7,870 and 6,008. Prizes of 240,0u0 Each ! •
And in a recent Lottery.
ALL. THE PRIZES OF £10,000!!!
And Firmer **Capital Prizes drawn the First Day,97th April.
Also, No. 1,313, a Prize of 210,000!
Three per Coat. Consols, drawn Thursday, 18th of Hay.

Mr. Cons presented a petition from William Cob-
halt, of Holley. The petition having been presented
just as the Speaker took the Chair, the readily( of it
was rendered totally inaudible by the influx of stran-
gers into the gallery.—lt was ordered to be printed.
The Report of the Committee on the Galway Elec-
tion petition was brought up, confirming the return ofi
Mr. Prendergast, sitting Member, and declaring that
the' petition against the same was neither frivolous
nor vexatious.

Mr. JAW, the new Member for Carlisle, took the
oaths and Ms seat.

Mr. WESTERN presented a petition from certain
Magistrates of the rounty of Essex against the Col-
chester Quarter Sessions on the table.

Mr. WERTZHN presented a petition from ocestpien
of land in the county of Essex, praying the atten-
tion of the House to their distresses, as arising par-
tially from the operation of the late duty on malt,
which had deprived them of the advantages they
hoped to derive from the reduction of rents last year.
—Referred to the Committee on the State of Agri-
culture.

Mr. Dorm.** presented a petition from Montrose,
for the repeal of the duty on foreign wool.---Laid on
the table.
Mr. DIMIDALK presented a petition from the Chamber
of Commerce of Hiroshi hani, in which the petitioners
stated their uctitto a era I &area of the
country was to he attributed to the various restrictions
that were placed on commerce. They likewise ex-
pressed their alarm at the demand on the part of the
agriculturists for an increase of the protecting duties
against the importation of foreign torn. They prayed
that the House would resist every proposition, hiving
for its object the increase of the protecting duties on
grain, and that a Committee should be appointed, for
the purpose of revising the state of the trade of the
country, pith a view to the removal of all restrictions.'
—Laid on the table.

ANGEL INN 4
N r. Rraaris,
GENERAL. OFFICE. FOR TRAVELLING.
THE following, MAILS and other COACHES
go from the above Inn :
Paris Rod a 1 Mail, ria Darer Tuesday and Friday Nights
at melte.

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Portsmouth and Gosport Mail, through God'Whig, Pe-
tersleid, s.id Porisea, every Eveniag at a quarter past 7,
and Sunday al half past 0. On its arrival a packet sails to
the Isle of Wight, to convey passengers and pareels: and a
Alai' Coach sets of to Chichester, through Drayton, Havant,
Foissortb. Re.
Gloacester and Milford Mail, through Ilenley, Oxford,
and Cheltenham, every Evening a quarter past 7, and Sun-
day at half-past 6.
Dover sad Waterbury Mail, through Gravesend, Chat-
ham, aid Fevarshasa, every evening at a quarter past 7, and
Sunday at half past 6. From Canterbury. passengers andpar-
..rls are conveyed to Deal, Margate, Eamsgate, Sandwich,
Re. • and from Dover, parcels are conveyed to Folkston..
lisnAgate, Ilythe, Dioachureh. Romney, and I.ydd.
Arusdel and Bognor Post-coach, through Rillinghurst,
Montley, Wednesday, and Friday, a quarter before 7.
BA and Bristol Post-coach, to carry only foes inside,
through Reading, Marlborough, -Caine, and Chippenbams,
miry Meseksg at 11.
RA LightPeet-mea, in two days. to carry fear inside,
*IWO hieltlenheed, Reeding, Marlborough, Devises; sad
Nalksben„ Metaday, WaisesAsy. and Friday Mornings, at
S. This midi lee elly helended for the accommodation of
hollies, imedde, be. who usenet inane the fslgue of
sash a dissegLone day.
blights. Post-coach, through Reigate and Cock-
lea=
P ,
*carry only four inside, through
Ilvaistirtnivery Morning at • quarter baleen 6.
t , aid Petworth Post-coach, Monday,
NOtlemuley.ided y Mornings, at a quarter before 7.
Deter red Illaiderhery Light Post-coach, Monday, Tees-
dny• Illerulay, Ifilday. sad Sunday Mornings, at 7.
tieMeilergmleelldlloril Telegraph Coach. through Ash-
*lead. Laelharbeed, de. 'Tuesday, Thursday, and
Oslo* , at 9.
4 end Claildbril sew Coach, through Marrow,
eludes. . 111Raghosa. Leathertwed, and Speen,
entry Adenoma at 8. eneept Sunday.
Ma te. Deal, Sandwich, and Ressadstairs
IV* illenday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,
sad Debbry up, at 7.
Oulkoni Light Past-comb, through Henley, itc. every
M at half post T.
I Assedd. and Petwortb Coach, Tuesday,
Theseday. end y Merida's, at a quarter before 7,
except lisesisy. .
CAJUURRS,
To Twielmbeina !roadbed, and islaworth, every We-
day,Widassaity, Friday, and Saturday.
EAMES and Co., Provision'.
Pared. Mrs are safely and espedideedroas-
'eyed boo to every City, Town, Yillerie .66d
Costeby Beef owing Counties. via. :--Barka. Illiabe.
Cornwall,' Best borset. Hants. Hereford, Hiemellill.
1
Keats Aide* till eat, Surrey. Sows, Wits, WareeMer,
Nevis Weimer ell ports of the Me of Wight. Jersey, Owe-
Irv. and el girls of Prance : and AaS Parts of the North
____ ,••• Take millee,that no pulsate. emlaisisg risesse;ra.
wimiss.willats, ark or Bask metes, however the
Moe• be nommunted for. If lad or damaged; nor soy
sp=g: odoto passel or 'it images of Imre thee di. value.
Sid for
ludolo ae slosh wheel delivered as the Ochs end
Neat Its. at the shortest notice

PARLIAMENTARY REFORM.--Mr. Slices pre-
sented a petition from a large body of freeholders of
the county of the town of Kingston-upon-Hull, stating
that they, comprising a number of PM persons, free-
holders, had not the power of voting for Members to
serve in Parliament, either fur the count• of York, in
which they resided, or for the borough of Kingston-
apon-Hull. They were induced to make this repre-
sentation at the present time, when the,disfranchise-
ment of Uraniponntl was in agitation, for the purpose
of praying, that if the franchise which would be re-.
moved from that borough was transferred to the Rest
Riding of Yorkshire, that then they would be admitted
to the right of voting for Members to serve for that
part of the county. The Hon. Member believing that
this was a safe and practicable mode of reform, said it
was his intention to tnove for a Hill to extend the
right of voting for Members for Yorkshire to the free-
holders of Kingston, or to propose in the Committee
on the tiranstotail Disfranchisement Bill, a clause to
the effect prayed for by the petitioners, iu ease it
should be determined upon to transfer the franchise to
that part of the cwantry.—The petition was laid on
the table.

The same flon.Gentleman presented a petation,from
an individual frteholder of the same town. praying
that he might be penalty/41 to vote for Membega to
serve for Yorkshire.—Ltiti on the table.

DUTIES ON TIMBEIL-41 enerafilascorna pre-1
seated a petition from a number of Merchants and
Ship-owners of Liverpool, praying that no alteration
might be made in the duties affecting the importation
of timber, in favour of Foreign Powers. They stated
the attfantages which Great Britain and her colonies
conferred spot each other, by the former having ex-
eluded the importation of tituber from the North of
Europe. If the trade in timber, which we now carried I
on with our own colonies in North America, were
transferred to the Baltic countries, the consequence
would be, a great reduction in the amount of our ex-'
parted manntaateres. The countries in the Baltic
would not take our manufactures in exchange for their
timber to ►alf the extent that the colonies of North
Anaeriis did. In addition to the other ell effects of
trassferriag the tsade to tho Baltic, we should COll-
- diminish the employment of the emigrants
in North America, most of whom lanai a seam of
industry in the cutting down of timber.
Sir J. Carrot stated, that there war llama 1 y an
emigrant employed in the gutting down of Woks is
North America. •
petition was laid en the table.

trade, which would more proporly aim* stademsemoi-
deration when the proposition was laid beige. the
House in Its various details. The Hen.•lkeihise vs*
proceeding in a tone of voice quite inaullehle.in•the
gallery, to offer some other observations, when •
The SPIA ass suggested, hat it "'tight net booting-
dient to prolong disceseioe on the premed measien, as
there were no lees than seventeen Oedema the Dar to
be disposed of, which were AB of them impseisat;
and as it was probable that, some-other lies. ilhonben
might be disposed to deliver their sentiments *ides
the Gentleman who was then addressing She Home.
Mr. 11. A. TAYLOR deprecated the novel practice
which had crept into the House of protractiug dinar
lion in the presentation of petitions. This practice
was productive of much inconvenience, sad, as a proof
of it he needed only to observe, that not less Man one
hour and a half had been consented in em ceed% pre.
maturely the matters to which this pee Mien is ted.
The petitioe wee then reed, and ordered te He me
the table.
ELECTION PETITION.—Mr. H. ChM brought
up the report of the Committee appointed to imp*e
into the merit, of the petition, complaining of no en-
due return for Portsmouth. It stated, that the Cons
mittee had made the necessary examination wish.re•
erect to the allegation set forth in the petition, that
the power of election lay in the Mayor and AMennen
resident in the borough ; and also inquired iota the
allegations made by the sitting Member, that that
power was vested in the Mayor and Corporatioa ealy,
which they found to be correct. The result was,-
that they declared Admiral Marken), the sitting M.eno
her, duly elected, and the petition of Sir Oeorge
Cockburn not frivolous nor vexations.-7 he report
was laid on the table.
TIMBER TRADE—Sir 11. W. Ranee preowned
a petition from the merchants and shipowners of Nes•
' castle-upon-Tyne, praying that no alteration might be
made in the timber trade. It stated, that some time
ago, the number of ships employed kith* timber trade
was only 783, whereas there was now 1100, and act
less than 18,000 seamen.—Laid on the table: •
Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented a petition from Mr.
Elder, complaining of great hardship sustained, in
consequence of a dereliction of duty on the part of Mr.
Earnshaw, Solicitor of the Customs, in a transaction
relating to the seizure of a vessel.—Laid on the table.
CRIMINAL LAWS.—A petition was presented
from the Society of Friends in Ireland, praying far a
revision of the Criminal Laws.—Ordered to lie on the
table.
Sir J. OSAMAM brought up the meet of the Earl of
Winchelsea's Relief Bill—Laid on the table.
FOREIGN TRADE—MI. Bantam memed, that a
select Committee be appointed fur the rupees et, it
srairing into the best mean ' mid ingrow-
ing the foreign trade of the country, that thap
st-
rpart thereon to the Ilesse&-.. Thu motiew one Weed'
es without discussion, and a Committee &prelates'.
On the motion of Mr. Bssixe, the petition of the
merchants and traders of London wu referred to she
Committee, as was also the petition of the ship-owners,
MP the motion of Mr. MAaiTATT.

GRAM POUND DISFRANCHISEMENT
Lord JOHN Helmut. moved the Order of the Day'
for the !loose to resolve itself into a Committee on
the Bill for disfranchising the borough of Grampouud.
It was not necessary for him, upon this osteasioa, to
detain the House with any lengthened statement upon
the merits of the question, as they had already been
at folly exaotined. lie was ready to accede to any
amendment. which should appear to his of a a•eful
character. ; but, he could not help saying, that to eit- •
tend the franchise to the neighbouring hundreds, as • ,
was proposed by Honourable Gentlemen on the other
side, would Itt at variance with the very principle of
the Bill. It appeared to him, that the most proper
measure to adopt would be to transfer it to some large
and populous place not now represented, and, se far
as the principle was roneerned, it would make no dd. .
ference whether that place was in Durham, Northoto,
berlatid, or in any other.coanty. He regretted that •
the conduct of Ministen, with regard to this measure,
was wavering and inconsistent, so Muth so, that he
was sure there was not a single independent Member
in the House who wuold regard one strew what they-
said upon that subject.--(Hear, bear I)
The Hon. Mr. Swarm was in kisser of transferrieg
the franchise in the manner proposed by his Noble
Friend, because be thought the manufaetaring interest
wassalutost naretresented in that Haw. It was, ho
was persuaded, in easeetioeace of this eirenanstance
that se many disturbances had arisen in the asanerfat:-
`wring districts, of whielideeigning sod turbulent per.
suns took advantage, in order to excite disatection to
the laws and constitution of the country. He approved .
of this Bill, because its principle involved an Welk.:
gi ble and practicalle plan of Reform.-.--(Hear, hear 1)4.--
No candid MO could possibly deny that such a Reform
was necessary, fee there waist present a fetal stain epos.'
the representation; which ought to be removed.—(Hear,
hear !)—He should be the but man to encourage or'.
countenance any of thou visionary schemes of Re-
form, whieft must mentally terminate in the annibi-
ilation of all Government, and whkh he regarded only
with detestation end abhorrence. Bat while the 'reel&
be patriots of the country were ready to avail them-
'selves of the distress of the people, is order to make it
serve their own parpmee.it was right that every thing
ought to be does to,mosateract their designs, and 'he •
should regret the advantage,-which the refusal too-sc-
cede to thetprorposithia now before Abe Howse would
create. This was a ao.fs, honest, and eapadient WO.
sere; sad he could &sort, that is *Arpin of-tar
country with which be was more isanandiately -
anted, there was bat mut elision ouhag all parties et
to the. Wadable alerts met hi his Noltio.Friowd with
• •
regard te it. . •40 • • • • •
Mr. Serjelat Otismow imormoestrrel, ialho get •
octal principle of the Bill, and wen not 'not say a short!,
word apes the expediency of transferring the franchise

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