The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-02-03 00:00:00

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. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
• •1 IFOUSIR OF I.OROS, Fre. 2.
ok Mien from the Commissioners lie the Redne-
tjen of.itteNatioual Debt presented.the Annual Ac-
counts.
• 't• • CLIItiC OF PARLIAMENT.
Earl GROtiVENOIt rose to enquire, whetter any
Alum had, been done in consequence of what passed
(milt% Grit day of the Session,.on sohj.•et of the;
'lppointrnt:it, by reversioo, to the office of Clerk of
Parnin4a, r 'lt was" his intention to move for an
iAtcduni drill' Offices held by Grants in Reversion.
"The Eel!, of LI V ERPOOLosaid, that the Com•
mittee to which• the Patera granting the Reversion
was to be referred, would have several objects sub-
mitted to its consideration, ti.e investigation of which
mighloccupy some time. It was, however, his in-
tention, in the course of the present Session, to pro.•
pose, relative to the office of Clerk in Parliament,
some Legislative measures which would operate pro-
spectively. To fulfil this intention, a Bill would be
necrissory, which he shout., introduce. •
The Earl of LAUDERrAI.E.—The object his
tcoble Friend had in view wag to render the office of
Clerlean efficient office. In that respect the motion
had his approbation.
Earl GROSVENOR wished an encioiry to he in-
stituted into the nature of all offices which were
granted in revernien, and would he glad to obtain an
official account of their salaries and ineir duties. He
did not know ow far the Nottle Lord meant his
measure should extend, hut he apprebended he did
not intend to go the length of abolishing the office of
Clerk' of Parliament. Nothing more strikingly
showed the impropriety of granting offices in refer.
sion than what had occurred with respect to that at
present under consideration. He was persuaded,
that the Gentleman wno lately held the office of
Clerk of Parliament would newer have asked the re-
version for his son, could he have foreseen that that
sop' would have titled the situation of, Ambassador to
a Foreign Court ar the time that the duties of his
office as Clerk of Parliemeut required his presence in
that House. It was his intention to, propose the
ebniiiion of the practice of granting places in reser.
sion, and that the abolition should be extended not
only to grants from the Crown, but to those made by
the Judges, 'and inueed to grants• in reversion of-
every desurivion connected sith the public service or
the i.,itit,•tior.s of the coontre. In the meantime he
moved an Address to the Prince Regent, praying
th t he would order to be laid before the [louse an
Account of all Grants in Reversion of Offices held
immediately from the Cicwit, and also all Grants in
Revers of other Public Offices.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL objected to the, gene.
rat nature of the motion. If the Noble Earl con.
fined it to those offices held under the Crown, he
should be ready to agree to it.

The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the Noble
Earl might divide his Motion, if he continued of
opinion that he ought to call for information as to
both species of offices. For his own part, he had
on a former occasion stated his sentiments to the
House on this question, and he still continued of the
same opinion as to the utility of the offices referred
to in the latter part of ,h. motion,:
The Earl of LAUDERDALE could not see any
' necessity for his Noble Friend pressing his motion ill
its present sh ►pe, nor could he understand the mo•
Gee of the Noble Earl opposite in rejecting it, as the
information asked for was in fact already before the
House. At all events, he thotight it would not
be necessary for his Noble Friend to adhere to his
targe million, and, therefore, recammended it to him
to divide it. _ _

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The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he should be
very welt pleased to see a statement of all grants in
reversion laid before their Lordships, and probably
.hould himself shape a motion calculated to attain
ihat object. His opinion with regard to offices
4ranted by the Judges, as he had already intimated;
remained unaltered. Many offices formerly bestowed
1,• the Chancellor were now in the gift of the
:Town ; but with regard to the Judges in the other
Courts, the power of giving those offices was twee,.
iry, as a part of their cniolumebts arose from those
jrtc. Were it not fur this, the incomes of the
Judges would be totally inadequate to the fabnriuos
sod importniit duties they had to perform. When
he subject was last 'before the ilouse, he had con-
vinced their Lordships of the utility of the offices in
the gift of the Judges as well as of others or a simi-
lar net". ; and he had no doubt he should be'equally
successful when the question came again before them.
Hebert, however, no objection to an account of all
grants in•revenien by the Crown being laid before
their Lordships; and when it was produced, he
should, perhaps, think it right to call for an ac-
count of all landed property, held in virtue of grants
from the Crown,. previously to the Act passed -re-
specting these grants.
• Earl GROSVENOR said, that all that had oc.
curved aince the subject was last discussed had only
tended to fortify him in his opinion, that nothing
coold be more injurious to the interests of the Pub-
lic
than granting Offices in Reversion. In saying
this he by no meat. meant to suggest,that he thought
the 'Noble and Learned Lord, or any of the
Judges, were overpaid for their services. What 'he
objected to was not the amount of their emoluments,
but the mode in which they were obtained. With
regard to the motion, we undersotod the Noble Earl
to intimate his readiness to divide it, and to press,
for the present only,ithe first part relative to Grants
from the Crown.
The motion, thus altered, was put and agreed to.
PAPERS ON TILE STATE OF THE COUNTRY.
Lord SIDMO(JTII said, he had now, in com-
pliance with the commands of the Prince Regent, to
lay before their Lordships certaln••Papers relative -to
the State of the Country. It was his intention to
have that night moved that these Papers should be
referred to a Secret Committee ; but he was induced
to postpone the ezecutiun of that intention, as two
Noble Lords (the Marquis of Lansdowne and Lord
lio)land) who wished to be, present, were prevOnted
from attending by a melancholy occurrence (the
death of the Earl of Upper Ossnry). We under-
stood, however, that one of these Noble Lords (the
Marquis of Lansdowne) might be expected to attend
to-morrow. 11: would; therefore, on that day move
for the appointment of a Committee. In the men'
time he moved that tore Lords be summoned for toe
rooms. Ordered.— Adjourned.

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