The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-03-13 00:00:00

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Be bad fixed upon that time, because there were man'
ether matters of deep intermit and importance to the wel
f ire of that country pending about that particular period
and it was then his intention to call the attention of his
roantrveses and the house serious'? to the condition of
Irelana en that day. He truated that lion. Members
would regard any inconvenience they might be subjected
to in consequence of this course, as a boon granted to
his suffering country. And he begged to assure them
that nothing could be more satisfactory to the people of
that country, and nothing more calculated to conciliate
them than the attention of their rulers and representa-
tives to their interests and complaints. This was the
object of his motion—he desired to establish in the hearts
of the people of Ireland that- confidence in the British
Legislature which they would give to one of their owls
For this parpose, he begged to move, that there Ise a 01f
of the house on Wednesday, the idtli of April.
The CHANCELLOR of the BXCHEQUBR ezpressed
his entire concurrence in the sentiments of the Hon.
Baronet. The sabject to be submitted to the attention
of the house by the Hon. Baronet was one of the deepest
importance, which it was hiedlr desirable they should
conic to the consideration of in the most deliberative and
most authorative manner.
The question was then put, and the motion agreed to.
POOII

Mr. COURTENAY, afters few observations sot dis-
tinctly audible in the gallery, moved that a Committee
be appointed, to consider of the Umtata! Returns which
bad been laid on the table of that house flaring the years
Nl9, 1820, 1821, relative to the stuns mimed for rates
in Great Britain; and report their observations to the
liouse.—Committee appointed.
lONIAN 'IMMO..
Mr. HUME, la consplianee with the request of Lord J.
Rnssell, postponed his motion oh the solticet of the
lonian Islands from the 19th to the 21st last.

COLLUCTION 0/ Tilt leviortm.
Colonel DAVIES said. that In directing the attention
of the House to this sublects pursuant to notice, it was
not his intention to go into the details connected with
it; but merely to endeavotir to convince them of the
propriety of taking this branch of the expenditure of
public money, more particularly under the cognizance
of Parliament. When they considered that it involved
the question of a sum of four millions, in the expenuli-
' titre of which those who managed it were accountable
only to themselves, lie thought they would see that io
this season of distress, it was theigbounden duty to take
the same salutary care of it as of the other smaller sum.
Ile need not reflood the House that it was always eiMele
tiered that it was the patronage attached to the die's-
sal of this sum that the Minister possessed go ppm
of regulating the veers in that House. This sow ht. 0,
pectin 4r claim to their attention. All that he intended
to trouble the House with was to come to certain Rear
lotions which he should submit to %hemline of thaw was
to 'thew the increase which had taken plate in the charge
for collection since the rear 1810, as compared with
1820. It would he found that in the collection of the
Customs there was an increase of 1/. Is. sd. per cent.;
the duty on hackney coaches. 141 s. Bd. per. cent.; in
the Post Office upwards of 21. per cent.; and on
.the
hawkers' anti pedlars' ditty nearly the same increase.
He took all these statements from the 'weenies laid on
the tithe of the house. He had not gone to 1792, or
UK, but takes the comparison with a year when the
depreciation of the currency was at its height, 18It
He kelt wished to pledge the House to an ophtion that
annslalegecounts of this branch of expenditure should
be laid before Parliament. He did not call fur retrench '
unbent, hot tbikit the fear millions tlau dispose 4 of Mionlil
be subjected to the same serntiny as the otheesbimschei
of expenditure. It would probably be objected to him'
that such a motion as this dial not deserve support after'
the statement of the Right lion. the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. lint be should contendsthat that statensont
was a reason for supporting it. as they had so frequently
before heard that all public departments were on their
lowest footing. They had, hos since that been
reduced lower, and probably the expenditure was
equally capable of being curtailed. The charges for
the collection of the Customs in 1820, as compared with
the year 1788, shrived an increase in the ratio of 71.
per cent. They must not allow themselves to slumber,
or nothing would be done in the way of lessening the
public burthens. The hon. member then stated the
case of some individuals who were in the receipt of sa-
laries for two situations connected with the Customs,
the duties of which they could not perform. Dv a re-
ference to the acconots, they would find a Mr. Prewin,
who, although a Commissioner of the Customs,
was also possessed of another situation, from both
of which he received large salaries.—(Cries of hear,
hear.) Another tientleman, a Mr. Dean, had held for
many years a situation which gave him 15001. per an-
num. If he did any thing to merit such an income, he
should think he could give much of his time to the per-
formance of his duty as Commissioner of the Customs.
The Commissioners of Customs were, iu his opinion, un-
necessary. Their number might he reduced from nine
to sin without throwing any impediment in the way of
the public business. But the same principle was acted
upon there as every where else. Poor wretches receiv-
ing half-a-crown a day, and tide-waiters, might be re-
dared ; but the higher officers were never touched, and
it had not been recoil:omitted that the number of Com-
missioners should be diminished. He then read a mi-
nute from the Lords of the Treasury to the Commis-
sioners of Customs, in which their Lordships declared
that they would consider it highly improper in the
Board to appoint any one to a situation in the Customs,
without first ascertaining that he was in all respects
well qualified. Nothing could he better than this regu-
lation ; the precept was admirable. lint how had their
Lordships acted on it. They had taken seven ont of
nine Commissioners appointed from other departments,
and placed them in their present situations, though they
knew nothing at all of the Customs. The last appoint.
ment was that of an Honourable Officer, who fornseehr
haul a seat in that House. - But he.- as an Army Officer,
could not be supposed to have had much insigyt ioto the
business of the Customs. The Hon. Member then came
to the Superannuation List, and auiusadverted on i s
increase for several year.. On the last year, the Si,
peraiinnation List for Customs, exclusive of Ireiand,
was not less than 80,090/. He contended that per-
sons were put on the Superannuation List, who were
not entitled to it by tee Act of 35 Cleo. !IL ?one
were entitled to be put on time List by that Ace, unless
by length of service, age, or infirmity. tie would
next come to the Preventive Establishusent, or, as it
was called, the Coast !blockade, which fir the last
year amounted to 611,C901. Notwithstanding that
expense, smuggling was carried on at that moment
more than ercr. 'flue people along the coast were
tempted to join in it by the high profits and wages
which were hell oat to diem. Ail ranks were ea-
rs:zed in it.. Even ladies of the first rank were the
greatest smugglers. lie would cite osse instance to
show the great profits ariciug from that illicit prac-
tice. A cargo of foreign spirits might be supposed
to contain' 500 tubs,. which made about 2,000 gal-
lons, at 11. 2s. per gallon Of that same, of some-
thing more than 2.oool..abssat 8001. went to the King
The remainder was to be given to the informer and to the
cCah..otwhich the sow of 400/., that was, owe-third Pet to theinformer, who was himself the guilty
tudiri-
Tlsesuisis which were given it' rewards of that
kind, stem enormous. Within the last two years. loot

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'ems than 104.0001. had been gi;ea In such "regards
tie received an account from Brighten. 04tlaff 11's
twenty-el: informations were laid is one day for deal.
log in Illicit spirits. He world reaseemosd the c
duction of the duty front 19s. to 12s. per gallon on
foreign spirits, which would de away the necessity of
so expensive an establishment. It was computed that
no less that 150,000 tubs of spirits were run Ill•
without duty. By the reduction of the present high
linty, not only the expense of the Preventive Establish-
ment would be lessened, but also the revenue instead
of being diminished would be considerably i d,
for all temptation to smuggling would be removed
In 1810 the duty, per gallon, was 13s. lid. The
number of gallons imported exceeded two millions,
and the revenue exceeded 1,500,0001 ; since the is-
d duty of 19s. was put on in l 12, the revenue
fell off about one.tentb. The Honontable Gentleman
then complained, that the several returns for which
he moved on the Bth of February, were not yet pro-
duced. The departments in Scotland bad codiplied
with the order of the House in a few days, bet the
English department bad treated it with neglect. k{ter
a few mere ob lions, in which !be Hon. 1111 per
pressed on the House the neceseitoilkjlinfing to
bis motion, .he concluded with the folio log Rem-
, lotions:—

"Resolved, Thas it appears that the sum of 4,102,215L1
17s. I Id. was applied in the year ending bth January,
1821, under the head of Charges of Sianagrnent. to de-
fray the expenses of collecting and managing the sow
of 620412,156 f. the gross ordinary Reyesoe of the Valtal
Kiagdous, being at the rate of Et/. 10s. per erg.
" That the nntleranentiesed Branches of the Revenue
were collected, in the years 1912 and 1920, at the follow-
ing rates:—

CUSTOMS. bares' dose
Gross Produ►e. Rate per Cent.
1012 119.023.070 Z 7 17 0
1224/ 12.206,214 Ol9 IL.— 1 1 2

excise.
1812 19.472.819 3 17 4...... 0 0
1820 ra.sie.ses Bl9 1 0 0 9

1812
IWO

L• ND ADD AINIZSAAD T
7.444.7 N 3 19 9...... 0 0 0
7,840,709 9 7...... 0 3

1819...... 1.090.781 49 10 11...... •0 0 0
1010 1,11101.6.11 43 3 9...... 914 3

ONE SHILLING ON TYE POUND PEN4IO..i AND SALARIES.
1914 10.313 I It U U It
19111 18.1116 2 12 4...... U 19 8
SIX SHILLINGS ON DITTO.
1811 17,1101 1 IS 4.. ... 0 0 0
8.044 2 10 4...... 1 1 0
HACIENEV COACHES.
ISIS 27.842 l2 1 11....- 0 0 0
IWO 28,374 IS It 4....- S 10 8
HAWKERS lITIS IPEDLAIS.
1812 22.141 IS IS 0 0 0
!No 29,3011 l7 15 7 .. 417 S
" That on comparing the rate at which the several
branches of the Revenue shove-mentioned were collect-
ed, in the years ISM and um it appears, that altbongb
they have greatly increased, yet the charge of collection
was greater its WO than in 181.1., I per cast.
" That although it is the duty of the House, as the Re-
presentatives of the People, to superintend and contrast
every Branch of the Public Expenditure, yet it appears
that the large Sums which have been lly expend-
ed to defray the charge of collecting and managing
Also Rovease. Issue been disbursed without any ac-
count being gives of the manner in which they have
been applied.
"That to enable this House to exercise a proper cow
trout over the Public Expenditare, it is St that Estimates
of the probable charges of collecting and managing the
Revenue, be antutally submitted to the consideration of
Parliament and a vote taken thereupon." •
Mr. LUSHINGTON said that, in rising to answer
the statements of the Gallant Officer, he would avoid
the bestowing on him of those epithets which be so
profusely lavished on Members at his (Mr. L.'s) side
of the House. But be would show the Muse that
the Gallant Officer had mistaken, not only the items
on which he built his arguments, but also the con-
clusions which he drew from them. In the first item
which the Gallant WE •er mentioned, he had stated
only 10,000,0001.; but to that lie should add
3,000,111)01. more. So that, in the very first itew,
there was a mistake of 3,000,0001. In the second

:tem—namely, the Excise—there was a mistake of
5,000,000/. Whets such great errors were found in
the two first item, the conclusion founded on those
were of course erroneous. He did not mean to say
that the Gallant Officer meant to deceive the House,
but he would satisfy the Gallant Officer that be de-
ceived himself. In the yea► 1812, it would be seen
that the charge for collecting and managing the Re-
vanity was U. 9s. Sd per cent. In the year 1820, it
was 31. 1 Is. 4d., which made a difference of two shit-'1
lines and eight pence per centum. The mistake of
the Gallant Officer was in comparing the permanent
duties, and leaving out the extraordinary duty. The
Gallant Officer stated the gross produce of the Cus-
toms in 1812 to I.e 10,023,8701. hut the Gallant Of-
ficer coedit' have added 3,000,000/. more to that'
sum. Ile had made a mistake of 5,000,000/. in
the Eadse also. Those gross reform would show thel
House how little the Gallant Officer knew of the corn-1
paralive state of the Revenue. The charge for ma-1
naciix the Remise of Excise, was in 1812 3/.17s 4d 1
and in 1820, W. 18s. Id. leaving a difference of less
than one-twelfth of a pound per rent. in 1820. The
average charge of managing sad collecting both'

Customs and Excise was, for 1812. 51. 9s. rid. and
for 1820, 51. 17s. 4d. Time email excess for 1820
could be easily accounted for by the increase of coot.
tame and necessary large establishment. lint the
Gallant Officer had stated that the increase of duty
had •liminished the Revenue. The best proof of the
contrary was in the papers on
,the table. There
was an increase of the •ggregate Revenge aris-
ing from foreign spirits, tea, tobacco, and snuff.
—On the two latter there was a little diminu-
tion. The decrease in smuggling was in fact
astonishing, and that was owing to the honesty,
the integrity, and vigilance of the olficors who
who were concerned in those departments. lint it
was not necessary for him to follow time gallatat Officer
through all the topics of his speech. Ile heli.wed that
in pointing out the gross mistakes of three and five
millions in the t,vo first items, he had ahewn enough
to satisfy the house that the statements of the gallant
Officer did not deserve any attention. The Mon. and
Gallant Member complained of the great delay there
was in furnishing the accounts called fur by the order
of the house. He eonld only assure the house that
every exertion had been made in the different offices
for the porpove of preparing th:tse accounts. The
.nbordinate officers, he could assure the Qallant
octal, who bad visited them with so much mitt oazh for
delay, had been most diligently nod. lain/dustily ma-

played night and day; so that the ordinaty basisees
of the office bad heen postponed. in order to prepare
the at count. moved for hr the Gentlemen on 'heather
.side. The Hun. Gentleman thel read a let ter how an
officer of the enstom-honse, retelred that day, gratin;
that such was the yolaws:nous nature of :the steam,
0)4
called for, that with tits gr esostiws *tabs.&
cers, the account could not be i sadinesy within lees
dme than three weeks. With r to the law chute
of the Solicitor of the Treuurf, he ad only to state%
that he received a letter front, the Boari of Service
that morning, which mato!, Mat the delay in fund*
log the returns, was not oat of any diarrspeet to the
House of Commons, but bat of a misconevriue of ti e
order of the house, one aecoist having Oren prepared
instead of another, and it was's', that day that the
return could be !Bade. But the result of the motet
was different as compared with the statement of Outfit .
and Gallant Member. The lient.htember loads aid, dot
the receipts '.
to 40, or 30, or ...
the official amount,
last year le. --
two persons
the last year
extent of duty
opinion that t
lament. The
regular that
aid that no oil
more satisfacties
to the Treasury.
that the event*
thousand posids.
amount of expense,
precantioss tree
Beery body w'
of expels:lilt

Lion e the
Hon. Ilfm'w

8, Contimissint

quirt into the

intelligent
the first Rtsolutign

he had shown

agreei og to

ta-ot to be Mu.
able es the
.tatetl that

or diosionti.im

lie lirverur.

there bad been
diminution e

by moving the previous question.
Mr. HUME watt a little aqua with the ismussir
matey of the Honourable Ocothwasin,l who bad cos.
eluded with moving the prowloat question apes the
first Itesolutima, to whict be bad brat jtut stated he
%a 4 no objections. The Reeeletioxls of his Galina
Friend state, the let alsouat of Customs is 1512, to
'ho 10,022.9701., and that the charge of seasegenest
of the SIM& aseranted to 71. 17s. 74. per gest The d
ifiespounble Member (the Secretary for the Triunity)
had stated that his liailaot Famed Ara ' sails*
ad three sailllhwes - New. het. * * , ths*
psiiie
eery aecousaltsol I. and there be t Ailing
were figure for igare torrett. .
• , •
Mr. LUSHINOTON said, thaC lie did sot *if -
that the Lures war toweetly staked, bet rite =hale
was this—abet thehate,periceat.obastealeniattl .m the
total amount of willowy &venal( and temporary es-
traordloarir it. •
Mr. II Ull E said that he read Olt arcount with great
care, and could see no testae Ai altering the state- ,
aunt of his (ballast Friend. . . •
Mr. LEN HINOTON desired that the nets Id JIM
end of the pale might be tookestiat.
~ •
The Book was beaded to the Cheek. Howe falba
on by Colonel Daelei en read the' note, bet it a?pert,
It,
ed the note se,. had beta mentOmed, was out in that
book —(A lea
Mr. HUME : eked they h I been termini hr
the Hon. Secrearkto a note, as note was to be
.er
found.
Mr. Lustulv4loN then madinim another hook es
the table the note at tithe triode I 1 calculation which
bad been adopted. " I
Mr. 1141111 Wrid his littlest F i iced had rowed est-
reedy, and *e Moo. Seeretary no st own that he (Sr.
LtuthidEtroit)-had In this instance auk a little slip.—
He did lot noneeive that the o! Oectioa wade to hit
'lmmutable friend's motion was t slid. If it oral. k
was equally so against all estimates that were laid W-
fore the House: The Hon. Mein, met then contends&
that es %mates of the expeadoure 'for the collecii not
the Revenue ought to have been 4 t all times submitted
W the House in detail. Ile tbei contrasted the ex-
poses of the ealleetion of the Customs iu Scathed,
la the years 1906 and 1821, and made it appear that
-there was an increase of 4941,0004 Ilso also envied to
the it creased s aeries now allows I in various offier,
over those of 1792. The Commissioners of the bard
'isf Taxes, who nt that period well paid at the rate of
Cita. and 5001 a year. now ‘received 1,600/. sal
1,0001. He would ask the Chat Atiellor of-the Etche•
quer bow lie mato that the redaction of 10 per lest'
shoed bane them iseersied ISO waioes dews to the -
standard of 179.2. lie tarok thic proposition to be a
mere morkery.Thess me rare °fart ranee, li el !steeply.
in the re:darks of the Coitamissainers and 116 airs is
the Customs, in the Excise, 11. e 'fax, Stant. na
other Offices. He thonght tl.e countraunng of
these things to be downright I vtravagance, and al•
thotigh the Honourable Secrets re might ha fault
with the harshness of his lau.gitisotire, 11r cald only
call it extravagance, for no n•her word would es-
press his meaning. lie thou !ht the ex.den•liturc
for the Customs was too greut, and ought to he
reduced. He in as sure the is untre wonld not he
satisfied with what the Cha cellar of the Exchequer
hail done. He conceived it to I.e but a paltry twale of
reductions compared with what i he country demanded.
ft was stated that the charge of coll:ctiog the ['a-
venue was to be 00,091'1. But there was a one of
SO,OOO/. for the revenue servi -e, under the chug
of victualling, pot into the Nat y Et.tinistes. lie alt.'
condemned the appointments to a le !levee neServicentel
complained of the allowances Mlle. At the rise tine
he was ready to admit that the service was ardor's old
hazardous. With regard to Soperanna aloes, bus
could the how consent to admit the priseiP°
when they saw the ex•ent to which it had bees
carried ? He held in his hand a volume erosions;
of above thief y pages of soperannnations. The SO.
Member they ipso, weer some of the Soperanasariost

of the Solicitor to !be Trease ry, sononnioi
I), or 20,0001. Nor, it woothl appear frem
iettoust, that the fees of the office aavastatell
,9.000 t., sad this sum was divided between
t; so that the neap' of. eau :I pertoo for
r were 4.5041/. A2l emssi4eriog thews
ity to be perforated. 'Behalf wield be if
ot this was an extravagant ashoaat of oa,-
si
The mode of parotid WO so the tart
oat could be adopted; abe area:
atm disbarred his i usrlitthawilli
eies to the thivesooseat i the Mich, r
osie The Nos. likasber :J. osioplaisid
I •of vbe .Ffilliedn 'TWO WM 111
MI s. TM rod questiii wa not solo tie
arose, bat whether or a the amour+
were to be taken to prism; the Revegai
r who leaked into the details Of. this bras&
tore weskit be asthisod of q, dee appliet,
to pablie money. The p • pool of it.
'er is °slit be totally smirveios also. lima.*
ins of Inquiry had beets aggpoihted to i..
the mode of eel-ening thug Revenue, sod .
soh:were faesished twelve 114orts, the most
that ever were hold *tore Parliament.. To
isolation he hail no ableetioo. The seeoed
owa to be fell of mars. and.-tbe Item iv
bi a it, would sirs that *hie 1e,1,4 'boon
trite. The third Resolution war objectine-
e same grooss4. . The fen -th Re elation
there had bora Ilia aseottnt a the increase
iou of the 'apostate of wing the pale
it-laid before the Maui t ~
been yearly Adores, statistic. the timosver
1 anifornaly laid eel tin table: Heeeneleded
..t.. nemeti.na nisdratiss •

I illiihr.detli• who hold *lmo ions in th.
He allotted to an Officer at Luria, named
pelsoas, wbo bad received an allowance of
tie yeses soviet, at the rate of 2000/. a
conceived this to be quite as abuse, as
it the hares ought to pat down the aye-
also adverted to the cases of the Coarc-
Asks's, Nassau, and Sandy Point, all of
considered to bare been allowed too mach
elees. There was a Mr. Rampant. who,
I years receiving a salary of 500 f., re•
as ellowance of 3501. He could sot
was voided to any such proportion.—ln
system of Superannuatios was like the
istreased salaries, sad ought sot to be
by the home. In Tint be had said he
tee his Hanlon Prired justice by support-
r as he email, the Resolutions which he
fled to the boom.
SHINGTON esdeavoaresi to phew, by re-
the retires. does the calculations of the
Seer (Colette, Davies) as to the rate of
Ira I. thsettematt•la Isl 2, was urines's,
Ores,: sof :swam/ion at 71. 17s. 741..
5.... ,4B3's or 11,023,000:..
Neel let yrs bet.
K noes to whedigeto a friend and rela-
-4 wits had bees aellectril apes by the Hos.
( mirs,ste-.l464Sitseo received a large en-
samiffitmeeedgeNgg deserves! it. The fact
kw hod ebbed be 32 years at St. Mu%
r tmeeplbely bled when be reamed to this
*. a -411rMid111119‘011 Ilineff:'
lilltEnet he Ole 1.tolle)
t (M boye4
iem (Coleael. Davie.) bad
latig 1110411111/ be entitled, to as such.
be lieseerable adeosber's oliservialsos. be'
d elk idat otherwise than as a fore.'
r 4.. . •
or
the ettablishmesto if the
scions" tesate and fiscise. The somber
daises of items's,' could not he {reigned
WSW to literarily *emit*. With regard
orearleafthrue, he did sot stand up to justify
illeillfillalbeili that is some instances they
erilllo-111111w. teed particularly in the Cos-
l.:4lleat.).-Ooveroweeet would have no
le redoes the Comeelasiosers, when they
el that they ware as longer useful —Some
however, was rendered necessary. As to
Shablihr. it was a daogrrous vrsvice, sod
Nike seiressary that these employed is it
•irall-enrarded. He eoseluded by voting
'oreatem..• . s
DA,IO iillOwl*. He eeetended that the
which* build lad, arose oat of the eoafased
e pableeteesete. lie said he had so ob-
give up the vetoed and third Resolutions,
aid put it ea the vote whether the others
to-be retaised. He ceneluded by twisting
tecessity of preslaaag the most want* de.
imago eseemliag fear stations.
kilosoisdes was then put to the vote,and

Refolodua $ divisiom took plan.
were:—For too KerJlation, 25.--
U.-514 .rlty. w.
or wore te she
I. epee his legs. I

r, we fused Mr,
rue leave to king

the IEII I;rotight ie

I int time.

1111. L.

qmstion being put that the house do go
nittee en th Mutiny Bill-
11N Hl' mid shot he desire.), on behalf of an
t Mead of his. as well as for himself, that
▪ shoald not at the gone into. It
ae 0110 of u.gs = a Hater, to excite
oboe. Ho segreidsi the thinness of the
the airman of many who might be deemed
r leaders is that honest sod was sorry to
n a great coostitutioaol question alone in.
He cooehlered it mere material has one oil
aor accounts. He could net help contrast-
scot mount with the periol when the toes.
Waned before. and then i.r a more limit.
inquiry rateived tbesommt of 160 31cm.
lat anotbot time, in the iffouse of lords,
Nth* idestical proposition that was intend-
knitted to the bons., and it would have
d bat tor the great Intl the Crown
rer the Spiritoal Louts. He concluded by
ming the want of attention on the part of
ben on that side of tl* House.

OUT was sorry to observe the dissatisfac-
last Hoe. tientlernao, however indifferent
it bare Lem He regarded the question as
inmost importance, and of vital lister-et.r
looked with suspicion upon a atandine,
the longer by lived that suspicion would
When toy principle WAS at a former time
House, it was treated with a Freewill:it's al
'lire of the Crown. He would state that
Id an exist, nor was mitered even to do so
er period, and be said soon the authority of
nosh. The present was the proper me-
ivestigation ; after the expiration of so long
ilitary spirit was fostered in the cowry
eit disregard the constitutional objections
eg army. He ever would look upon the
my with suspicion, and was desirous to re-
m it was placed in opposition to the navy.
tive the latter the most derided preference,
ed that its interests would ever be protoct•
ease.
}iHOCSE was of opinion that the idatiny
,t give to his Majesty the preroOlive that
fie hoped the of•jectieos would be pot is
a specific measure, and be made the subjecs

ME dill not complain of speaking to empty
t had seen theta .qually so on litany qr
portant as the pr. sent ; and though he
think they might very well go into lila 44-
of the Bill at that time, he would coarsest'
ra of his friends for a further delay.
se then went into the Committee.
Me withert to ask the Noble Lord (Palmer-
stion, if any alteration seas intended in the
ib as many of the clauses were obsolete, and
ttt out altogether ?
,LN:ERSION said that the only clause it.
e (omitted, was Hest retailer to the settle-
tiers.

•

Sir I. COFFIN asked M say atteratilms
with regard to the mode of promalptin
of courts-martial?
Lord PALMgRSTON replied is the
la teply to some observadoas fres Mr.
Mr. Wetherell—

Lord PALMERSTON said that the
Crown to make the Articles of War was
witted, and the principle was recognised
the enactment of the Motley Bill; the
Inserting them in that Bill was to make
of the land.

Mr. BRIGHT said be world thee wait
tinn of the Royal prerogative; he Would
if the Crown bad or bad not, the right t
Articles of War ; bet he considered that
should see those articles; and he felt
prerogative of Parliament to investigate
the Mutiny Bill.
Lord PALMERSTON wished that

Heiman (Mr. Home) would point out
clauses he objected to; as there was is i
Mr. HUME replied that he alluded
to the clans*, No. 29, respecting Coatis
would then move an addition to that
Courts-Martial should be held strictl)
to tha forms of the Mutiny Hill, and
tents should ever take place, bat under

strictiun.
Lord .PALMERSTON could not see
the atisiltioo.
' Mt. HUMBIJOIrIisat.
phsets taut tnar the Act, hot by dm authority
Artielmioil War. He 'sly sought
should sot p beyond the limit that the
witted.
Mr. WETHERELL complained that
meat was tuperikons: it was not del
Crown had a power to punish by Articles
not Illetitr the Mutiny Bills but the objections
right were brought under notice of IL
welds roods' ion, by the Hon. Member
(lie. Bright.)
Mr. BRlti/IT said that be had not
being forward so important a on aaaaa e, he o.
to say that he would support it if noticed
other Hon. Member.
Colossi Wood and Mr. Courtenay made
vatioes.

how
Mr. WILLIAMS said that the country
Jealous of a standing army, and of that
pve the King an unlimited power over
thst no officer of the army shoal
Ss have & mat in that House, or eves
vote fur a Member; and if no other
forward a Bill to include then, he would
Introduce It. It could nut be held that .
were not seder the most direct Wiese.
Crown, whim they were subject to its
moment.

Imp 4 WOOD explained. He thought .
prerogative of the Crown ensure! the safety
Smite. The only time when an arwy
Members of that House sot of doors.
from the Crown and removed from is
put away them finds Kingand Parliament.
to the observations respecting military gentlemen
that place. and that as imputation would be -
there es British A* -

Mr. WILUAIMMiIaraI ant ti. Weill
in his intestines of ►ringing in a Bill to
Beers of the Army from Seats in that house.
ing army might go against the Crow;
against the people. ills objection to it
ened by the argument opposed to it—a t
might be t►is day under the influence of
and to-morrow overthrow the liberties of
The SOLICITOR-GB:VERA!. objected
amendment ; he said it went in substai
even the exercise of mercy in the Crowi
adopted, the Crown could nut have the
a sentence of death into one of transportation,

Col. DAVIES lastaneed eases of the
85th regiment sidle injurious exercise
prerogative.
Mr. HUME also noticed the ease of k
the 54th. With regnd to the objection
citur•tleoerai, if his resolntion was considered
nen!, he would be happy to narrow el
much as possible. Ile would remind
the same army which had sent away of
brought bars another. Military officers.
be expected to vote lb that house, except
influence of the Crown, they were little
slaves, if they were to be retained at ph.
dismissed in the manner that was observed
occasion.

Sir MILES NIGHTINGALE repelled
lion of the Hon. Alember for Aberdeen.,
sitoation of officers of the army. They
pendent upon the Crow•o. He (Sir Miles
was as independent of the Crowns. the '
himself or any noao in the house.
Mr. HU.UE said, that in his opinion
the army were depewleut upon the Crowi
son be had Fiero.
Sir ISAAC COFFIN said, that when
able Member for IVe•ymouth (Mr. lVill"

in his Bill to exclude o.fivers of the a'
house, he (Si:. 1. Cotfin) hoped it would
cars of the navy, that they might all go
(A laugh.)
Colonel TRENCH said he also felt
upon to repel the insinuations of the
Member for Aberdeen, and he threw them
I source from whence they sprang. I
priabil that the Hon. Member had dared
stub an aspersion on the army.
Sir F. 'Wit DET I' said he ruse priori,
to the tone used by the Gallant Officers.
mot make their appeals in that amide; t
*tent with the due regulation of debate
teary to :he order obseivetl in that House.
met objection to the Oificers of tile Army.
not except them from the rest of menial
them inaccessible to the influence that
all others. Standing up for the Constit
country, he would nut shrink from j.
strongest language that had been used.
that a standing army would yet be the chief(
destruction of the liberties of the people.
so predicted by Mootrsouieu ; a sinner
held by the greatest etaracters that the

TIIIIC- •-• , A % -- - . ,
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Itt wet laitaillfr 1010111. 04 .gol broil 3.6ta 14110beala Wbe cow si Mr. IBROODBfii. 41114 that thre expressible itheakt . .
IS Ilea seatiteees Wilma of the ray M the 1 will Shot it was hive hoes noticed at the time it was seed. ,
wetted lb Mate; tit ' ' that Pariliamot twilit ' Mr.CRREVET said that be beard the Hon. Hem-
s taegative. salad it Re erre, 'tbit the antra fieff such her for Cambridge use the words "how Oentlemes - '
Mr, igright sad % prerogative de wee daite•held. If the -Huy liras to dared."
be altogether siebeervieet to it, they could not at con- After some observations from Mr. SMITH, Mr. Bru-
te sight of the siderite! as perthdpetere of the general liberties of the NIT, and Mr. BR °GOWN, •
was always ad-I conntry. and they would be the only slaves in the na. Cot. TRENCH said that expressions frets the cotler
ised flog before sloe of free men. By the Mutiny • Bill that system side of the House caught his ear, which excited Lis •
se sole object ol was latritducid, which made their forefathers tremble, Indignation so mach, that in the warmth of debate
he them the law --soldiers like Hamelines, placed like machinery he might have used words which he ought not to have
ender the upend*" of the Crown—put out of the used ; be therefore, as far se the House was concerned,
waive the sues. preterites of thiConstitatioal and instead of endeavour- apologised. and expressed his deep regret to it for hay-
d not inqui„ mg to unite the citizen and soldier. andembod them un- log used them.
ht to make the der tht laille Um'atimthth by giving them these me Kiwi' After some conversation on the clausei of the Bill ....
lug..;every lam" hild been used M divide them and between Lord Palmerston and Mr. Home, who with-
oat theta off from all sympathy with the people.—
that tht House
eh it to be the That leaned commentator said that it was injurious drew his amendment, the report of the Bill wasor- . •
to every part of to the liberties
of the i dervd to be brought up to-morrow.
country that any part inf tne-
On the house resuming, the Marine Bill went •
the Hon- Ben' people should be taker out of the pale of the Consti-
• and that the oldchance those liberties d
, , tenon. y
it the Perliclhar surviving the introduction of a stand's be brought up to-morrow. The report of the Mims • 1
:111
a all 160. . hy taking care slim there should be no camps: an tn.
g army w,as, and Deolsen's Bill, was brought up by the Lord Ad-
. Ts
rocate, to be read a third time tomorrow, hi in particular lied fortresses. **thing that could separate or divide -. ,--,i '
is Mantel. He • LTORCATION BETWEIIN TWO amens.
clause, that all them n
afkroi
el from Intercourse itnbet.re limo: lr 8 easewinthicetirshPeoe:r
aensdaund
sending
all Mr. BENNET said he felt it his duty, before the .
ly coeforanable by *wag hack house separated, to cull their attention bark to a cif- . , .
•
the."l2l‘er to the PI/6149 thus be might again recover resistance which bad occurred in the Committee. He
tad that pa sm.
that hold itad impassive spirit of liberty, which he did not know if the Right H 0 is the Char - *
Cr the same re' miebt have last fur a tooseest from a habit of pubmis.On. tat. r.. as . •
aware thatcertain exiressions of a persoiall motor* •
"
e • tas ;h: should be Urea from his enslaved condition; had bee. used bet file thsisi and
se 11. object of but whilst a inner. seared In his rights so long as he eel. Teoe-at ) end relihat timi.,-.llll*Nefol6""be'sergoe'. bees' bee bad .
„__ •id his duty. • -alit eria•the Italy way, In the opinion thongbt it lis. explemadou to atm . 5 '•-•c !
tchoeilliy.syt"'"'sh. sae/4W.
.....daseleeethealistms
...___ e, by. which the Constitution
. Conslittio".l4aselof the leepollirsebleiti It Might be ineppeeed
ores we g row the Nam" effects of a "a" . refloated oa the Hu. Memberfieg Abeen.: He. par. ~
that winners
he Lew itself
ed. bag army. la whatever light the Hon. fleet. at the • ~
Brunet) malt own that be considered tf‘eXplanation
other side viewed a standing erne—however neces- to be sot Doty onsatiefoetory, be; ie. 'flot• an r.
la
the
em__,• sary they might think it for the preeervatitin of our • -•
aggravadoe of the offensive import of the Orel entree-
' liberties, Mr. Home looked upon it in a very
denied that the tight. That historian was far frees thinklordifferent sloe. The Hon. Member (Col. Trench) had In the
that a course of his explanation said that so far as the home
;lea of War, and showily_
way
was likely to preserve the °met"- was concerned. he was sorry, fic,c. but not one word as tis . •
hjections to that awn :lie viewed . , .
it as a philosopher. and said that it , .
the House by it
t ,_, would be the euthanasia sad destruction of England. the person to whom the repressions chiefly opplied.—
lie (Mr. Beane) would leave it to the house if an ex- ~ •
ter for Bristol When, beside the dependence of the military oo Clo•. ~.
,planation . coupled with such conditional terms oughi • . ,-•
vernesent. he saw the orphans and infant children of .. .
eS
to satisfy the feeling's of asp person in the situation of • •
sot the natty to soldiers brought op in the asylums of the country as his lion. Friend (Mr. Home.)
she only meant . • , . .
if it were by beat of deans, he could not but fear that The SPEAKER said, that he had attended loth •
noticed by some
the time was approaching whi:b Mr. biome predict- I
coma • of the proceedings in the Committee to which ,
. ed. It might be said these children were placed on-
lade some owe- the Hon. Member had leferred, and be believed it
I i!
der fie name of charity; well. let them hay, it, be was the feeling of the Committee that the explans-
did not wish to refuse it to them; hat let them he
lions was quite satisfactory. For his own part he c
entry should be
put
out to trades, ade .
s. to which they might contribute to I
bet Bill which
sapportthel.h•rtiesof theirconstry, and not be brought , . ..! i
roe it. He con- the bonne, to interfere, with a view to stop any'ea.
, ap as artificial hlauielakes. Now, so changed was .. ,
pre•sions which might be inconsistent with the di:e-
-1114,be ro eiti_titte' the coustitation of the army, and so dependant, that ' i ,' ; •
rd. tr and decorum of the house. With respect to ti e
111 v. a."." !. the money. the property, the profession of a soldier. i •
person brought
could be taken from him without assigning a r a"4- 11'
declaring•
.2
yr ed 100 the comae of the explanation. Ind 1" . -_.. I
would certaioly eel°°• a • difficulty in that the impression excited
and even a stain put on his character. Such a power
was
sat milker men in his mind the reverse of that whirls the Hen. . •
awe. If
the be thought bail. even for those who held it. It was Member (Mr. Bennet) described to have been received j c‘ '
useless to introduce the name of the King, or say there by him _0 tear ) The expression used by the Hon. .. 1 i
a dismissal at a • •
wale no dang.eof an eaconstitational exercise of it in i
• . Member fur Aberdeen called forth langur! of a wares
. Hi hand*. The power was wally in the hands of the I
~
ought that tne and unen tried nature. 'lle Hon. Member, towever, •
Misieter ; but be would ask, could it be endured that afterwards expressed his deep regret for having vio• . .-• 't
lie safet of the „.
• •
had torytind for the liberties of the enlister should depend on she will hated the orders of the house. Now he was sate that f
of Moostdhs sod the e 1..." df hi. being a good or it was universally understood that when a Member,
it was wend l'
a a oar/ Mistery. warred t as against placing )ii
placed in circumstances of this delicate failure, declared
to /agar". '''', a pewer its the hao•is of y Monarch,i
tat. He objpettod ..... •
like Leoowelik he came d son and tarried out
Sup- that he did not mean to violate the ord*s and rules of • • i
y gentlemen in r'—' the house, he entirely disavowed any 'personal melee- i
'
u.
mitt" the Horeb when tlie•ormy was jut his disposal, who lion on the Member supposed to be the object of the .
lid
...
le
"aid oaf 'that there etas any *net fort ceps*. cambay.......tm.avveve-oroprf eh if deirsairy -- • • i
ii.v.emead • • ,111-• -msseameeaboisoproseista An -his wind. and he believed
mod persevere aolhielloP ' *likes son don *er *ay Monarch, that it would nut be foaad so differ from that of the .
• 1 :
and it was, thereffirt, that they should have all Hon. Member himself.
to pees
ere
the protection that the Constitution *could give Mr. HU g, ME said, he tad no hesitation in declarin
owe. A steed-t 1
them. The clam* proposed by his Hon. Friend pro that the explanation of the lion.,
Member was sufficient
is as well .imi
vided that remedy in a great degree ; fie introduced to cesvioce him that • no• personal offence had hero I I.
it eras M Br-ee h
. It sot by a Mile wind, as was said, bat in a plain anti meant to be conveyed by the original expressions.— • t
army a standing " •
direct owner. He thought the Noble bisrquess's (Ilear.).—Had be known that his Hon. Friend, whose : (1
of the Crown. .
f the people, logic very badly Applied; he was guilty of • groat warmth and zeal were often so creditable to bis fee :•• . '
o ' • ieconsisteney in holding that after trial by Court
bjectedlogs, intended to bring the subject before the house.
li '
to the Martial, the Crown had still a power of altering their he would hive en, e .voiced to prevent him.—(llear ) r
Ince to prevent • , r /
sentence—such a power was indefensible and usicon• The report of the Committee on the Superannuation 1 , t.
son; if it was sti to clonal. Io- so other country Was such a poser Act was Lronglat up. and bast agreed to, a Bill uses b •
power to alter exercised over the army—all were subject to a trial ordered to be brought in pennant to the same. iI
nation.,t
by Court Martial, which was decisive—in England The other Order. of the Day were then read, and •? '
a officers of the only was that power exercised. which was calculated the house adjourned at twelve o'clock. '
1 of the Royal to make the army of this country more slavish than --- • .
' . - -
the satellites of the moot despotic Monarch. He FIIO.II TUESIMY NI0111"3 G.JZ ETTE. 1" 'Col. Allan, of thought it could not be defeaded Oa the gvousd of -....40.--
'
on of the Soli- prerogative, unless it could be clearly astabllehed that - cotowre penes, Mg TOR 12. ,
t t;
Insidered to ge. the exercise of such prerogative was beneficial to the B. rigeteantLamrsTriter asap IlacrelvilreunidbrriA"tiALOT'sh 1 S f:. ? !I
the question as country. The Judges were made independent of the uA-
___,Ar ak. iti:6.., Esq. lb , 213 e • s • 'I
and /WV. .R.
f' '
the house that Crown, and why not the army? He gave credit to ``fir,
one King, bad the feelings of the Oiliest Member; but it was not a tot RCP'S'S. . ' HI
r • .
rs could scarcely on his virtue, bat the power of Ministers. that his M. Elehardson, Eirkoswald, Cumberland, butcher, tom- i ~
~
•
me pt under the Commission depended. In former times they knew rendertnt March
Meters.re it7,l.,•ottirlie-n.l3a,nadtitilleeidßelrueelllan,
lea:Ili:v. ,
t,' , • 1
Clement's
on; and
de better thin how that power was exercised ; and there was Sot w
Messrs. and Young, Carlisle. •
.1 ; (
Pleasure, or be much reason to think the Ministers of the , pre- B. Colley, Posenhall, Shropshire. farmer, March 23, 26. .
wed on a late sent day more virtuous. He thought his Honourable April SS, at the Tontine Inn, iron Bridge, Mmleley, Shrop-
'
-
Friend entitled to the gratitude of the country for shire. Attorneys,
doaroney
t,Mr.litgg,
.Southampton-buildings, Chad- j
c Ir. Pritchard, „I
tto. Broveley„ •
led the observe. his salutary amendment. The Hon. Baronet concluded ii. Grail:he. o,esesea, Glamorganshire, linen-draper.
1, respecting the by saying that that statute, which. as Mr. Justice March 21, 22, Aprii 23, at the Mackworth Arms Inn, Swan. I ei ,
y were net Jr. Blackstone said, was !stiffly penned, ought to be re- sea. Attorneys, Mr. Price, Lincoln's inn ; and Mr. Collins. ~
A 1 I.
Swansea.
lee Nightingsle) vised ae soon as possible. The Hon. Baronet sat T. Maallli, Dudley, Worcestershire, pail-'roarnonger.
a Hos. Member down amidst load cheering. March 23. 20, April 23, at the Royal Hotel, Birmingham.
Lord PALAIEItSTON said, that Hon. Gentl-men Attorneys, Messrs. Collett, W Unbent; and Collett, Chan-
t the Officers of at one side should not assume a freedom of debate lane ; and Sir Robinson. Dudley.
eery-laver
and W. Ilirsi, Doncaster, Yorkshire, iroa•
oven for the roe- which they would not permit to the other. The founders, March 23, 20. A •ril 23, at the Guildhall, Don- t ;• •
word "Slave," as applied by the Hon. Member for 4 caster. Attorneys, Ar. Pearson, Doncaster; and Me.
!It the Honour- Aberdeen, was, undoubtedly, very offensive, though Llattl e. Chancery-lane..
ch. Staffordshire, coal-master. • i
Mama ) bran ht eiddonbt it was not intended to he _so by the Hon. W. Tartan. Westbronowa • '
March 27, 55, Apri 23, at :he Jeraiqiiiiiiii Arms ion, Sniff-
I-nty from the Alember. With respect to the Hon. Bart. he was ra• I
I nail, Shropshire. A!trortieys, Mr. Smith. or Mr. Corser.
d include Otfi- timer too fond of giving the result of his prvmte 31n- Wolverhampton; and Mr. Whittaker, Broad-court, Long- 4
)
o out together. dies : bet in quoting a passage from Blackstone, be r
acse:Vertae Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, merchant, April 6,
should have quoted the Whole, and then it would be p , ;
8. cS, at tud'lllack Lion Tavern, threat Yaneouth. Atter-
himself called seen that that commentator added that " a standing net's, Messrs. Sayers and Sons, Great Yarmouth ; and :- . .
be Honourable army .pas now identified with the Constitution."— Messrs. Swain. Stevens, Maples, Pears., and Hunt, Freda-
place Old Jewry.
hem be, kto the Whatever arguments might be drawn hear the danger
riciki.fs..falour:on, Scarhoroush, Yorkshire, winker, April J. 2. , 1
. ire was sur- of a standing army, it would be much gre.oter if there et at the Talbot Inn, Scarborough. Attorneys, Mr. Berson, •
a to throw out were no army at all. As to the soldier's chit !reel, he Scarborough, and Messrs. Kearsey and spurt, flishopsgate- i.l
could tell the Hun. Baronet that the far greater part within.
J . Knight, Halifax, Yorkshire, Merchant, March fig,t.,lo f
dpally to advert of them were apprenticed to trades. ... .
April 23, at the White Swan lan, Halifax. A tor .eye, Mr. 1
. They should Mr. BENNEF thought the question on, of great Beckett, Earl-street, Blackfriars ; and Mr. seas,
• I 1
it was incon- importance; it was possible that a care might occu- Hali:ax. t 'I
March 29, 3 ) April it the
tate ; and con- in which a man would unjustly lose his character and R. Poole, Leeds, grocer, .., 2s. A. 1
Sessions House Leeds. Attorneys, Mr. Neale, toter
muse. He had property, against which the atuelidenet.t ~f his Hun.
Temple-lane; and Mr. Granger,'Leeis. t ' 1
r, bat he could Friend provided. tie (meld not but allude to the P. Herbert, late master of the East India ship Thalia,
Ind, or suppose terms used by the Hon. Member for Cambridge (Cul. merchant, March 19, 96,' April 93, at Flasinghall-ste-et.—
it operated On French.) Such terms were unusual. lie yellowsberet; Attorneys, Messra.oabaldeston tad Marrs: , hoodoo-street. ,
Fenchurc.h-street.
dilution of his when that Hon. Alembrr, a great and stern patriot J. Weeks. Ezeter' currier, March 16, 23, April 93, am
j..ining in the sat at his aisle of the House. assinghall-street. Attorney, Mr. Matlock, Field-evert. r
I. He feared Mr. BROODEN rose to order. sirsy's tun. .
defeatist of the Mr. BEN.' i',l' said that DIVIMIND..
he had no intention to • ..kespeare-walk .
Ilitedwell, mas-
II
, .
It had been use say term wi:h a personal allusion ; but whin op-
Aril 6 W. Wilson, Sha
, ter-m lLos arie•Gat BaslngbatreenswAprilik B. Foster sad W.
me openhoo was pellatiuns of a personal nature were used to Beam- G. Sharp, Bastughatt-vreet. laratiousgwep, at Basieglialt-
country cou 0 men at his side, he could not but advert is them. . street..-Aprit 6, J. Henan Raiff tllctr4lllow, Biseopigat•- i''
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C. C.Dest;

ittmatftewilers, at Resiagnmst-..—_
tours, Wellctose-sqeare, eacar-reliner, at
April 6,..11. Stewart, Worcester, wine-aserehaat. at Basear"
•Itall-street—klarch 18, J. Cary. Raquel-court, Fleet-streak,
merchant. nt Theinghatl-street—.lpril 11. M. Lawledge,
Harley-street, Cavendish-square, upholsterer, at Basing-
hall•street—Aprit 2, J. Graham, Birmingham, linen-draper,
at Basinghall-street—April 8, J. Hardtop Manchester, gro-
om, at the Star Inn, Manchester—April 27, J. W. A.
Bauggs and J. Woolley, Lime-street, merchants, at Basing-
hall-street—April3, W. Kidd. 'Newcastle-upon-Tyne. linen-
draper. at the George Inn, Newcastle-upon-Tyne—April 4.
J. Ford. Gloucester, patent woollen-yarn-manufacturer, at
the Ram Inn, Gloucester—April 4, P. Mathews, Bagley,
Worcestershire. 'enlister. at the Wheat Sheaf Inn, Bewtiley
—April -1, W. Wright, Bellbronghton, Worcestershire. mer-
cer, at the Wheat Sheaf Inn, Bewdley—April In, C. Pratt,
Bishop Wearmouth, Durham, (mai-Otter, at the Bridge Inn,
Bishop Wenneouth-,April 4, P. Cope, Bridgnortb, Shrop-
shire, grocer, at the Crown lan, Brldgnorth.
CERTIIIIIMTES.—APRIL 2.
J. Jones. Mount-street, Lambeth. linen-draper—E. Kay,
Sheffield, Yorkshire, merchaat—J. Cooke. Sunderland,
baker—J. Rithards. Exeter. cabinet-maker--G. Winter,
Norfolk-street, Strand, dealer in harness—J. Robinson,
dlioholac lane, merchant—R. Webster. Bishop Wear/month,
,Derham. merchant—J. Blyth, Newcastle-ender-Lyme, Staf-
fordshire, draper—J. H. Knibs, Lloyd's Coffee-house, in-
to/ranee-broker—J. Park, ffenchurch-street, merchant.
PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED.
• E. &eft and Co.' Vreston, atraw-hat-mannfactarers---J.
I sigh aod Co., Manchester, dealers in Iron—F. Steele sad
.W. Chapman, Sutton, Surrey, lime-burners—R. Holt std
J. Ailments, 11111-Carr, Rossendale, Lancaster. fullers—J.
'Hill and W. Meson, Wakefield, joiners—J. hlaneell and
'E. Wiltjugtort. Biamingham, csbinet-eise-makersr—W.
• Baal& and IL. Mathews, Wolverhampton, grocers—T.
Standen and R. QaMeser, Lancaster, slaters—A. D. Camp-
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'ball and Co., Glasgow and Halifax. Nova Scotia, merchants
—II. and C. Cowley, Upton upon-Severn. Worcester. linen-
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drapees—A. Gillespie and Co., Montreal and Quebec, Ca-
mgrcitants---Js (Ironstone and D. Blachford, Compton-
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sre, Coinpton-street, Clerkenwell, iron-founders—E.
Soady tad Co.. Callington, Cornwall, school-

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' X per Cent. Red. Shut Ditto Bonds
3 neett. C0n5.....79,1 S; n South Sea Stock
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TCIAM" II INCORPOBAERD MTN " INS
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< - EDNEADAT EVENING, MARCO 13, 1822.
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re has been very little business doing this mom-
. Pay
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'f' '•-• 1,110140-4stelng, i: is snpposed, to the nos-arrival of mails.'
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PROCEEDINGS IN PARLIAMENT.
Tii •-rws 41/10tistr Cert. Bill, with an
- oppos4on, was ?rad a wood time: but, there
wire suite petitions presented en a most important
- •••• sulljikt, namely, Irish Tithes ; and, those who are
disposed to call strange and monrtroas things " /risk"
nay, as the thing' most of all worthy of the epithet,
7•` :select, Irish Tithes ; for, all things together,
• did Poch an amuse Vat in this whole world. The pub-
* 'lie prints are, bearnigg again to amuse their readers
with ,
illtrancipatias !" We bare Mr.
Pi.eslrott the sysge again, " corresponding with
w,- Secretary to the Catholic Board"!
And we bait Mr. PLUNKETT telling us, that be does
not eirinkthat this is the " proper time," though he
adds, that " he trials that it is unnecessary for him
" to say, that his friends'i, to the Pleasure is unal-
" tered and unalterable". Bless us! But, it must
be a great comfort fur the Catholics to know that
though ! To know that the measure (Which has been
talked of fur 23 years) has, in its old age, the friend-
ship of Mr. Patrutcrr, who has just got a place
under a Ministry by shorn the measure has constant t,
been rejected ; and who, in fact, first came into place
themselves with the cry of " popery in their
" months "!—Vint, let us see a measure relative to
Irish Tithes, and we may say that something is going
to be done. This is emancipation, real emancipation,
and that Catholic who looks to any thing short of it,
is too weak a soul for any one to attempt to
with.

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Ire rag Commode there was some warm work be.
tween the standing army in time of peace and Mt.
Hutto. However, we shall notice this snore particu-
larly, when we come to it in its due order.—Mr.
Curt 1% YNDE moyrd for, and obtained, leave to bring
in a bill relative. !o Vagrants. It Is to be lamented,
that-gentlemen IN, got see, that theye regulations are
only mere props In a vicious system ; and that, to get
rid of vagrantstand not to make laws for regnlating
their conduct, .baght to be the thing constantly in
view with those who mean well to the country. The
Old Vagrant Act of England is still law in America;
but who erer saw it pat in force It is made a
dead letter by the absence of taxation. If the col-
kction of the taxes in America, the mere collection,
cott, as it does here, a pound, or four dollars and a
'half, a year for every grown op male person in the
country, the Americans would soon find need of Va-
grant Acts. Happily for that country, this is a state
of things roufined to England.
COLLIICTION or TAXES,--0010114 Davies brought
forward, as our readers will see, in resolutions
relative to this charge, the charge fur mere collection,
for the year up to J y Iti3l, he states at
4,102,2441. That is to say, more than the whole
tanennt. more than the gross produce, of the taxes is
the reign of Queen Anne, previous to that famous
season of Septenoial Parliaments ; and more than
the grow rodeos wry of the taw in America,
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rwsrointat, bat eitikli4 Olaf tate Aterliw,
but too good reason to soppose, ie fiabirr
most formidable that England ever yet ha W.*
The Colonel shosied,-that, the expecte of..oallestiob
increased, rather than diminished; and his tweekttions
tended to erect a controul in the Hoes*, asks this.
matter. His resolutions were set aside by the pre-
vious question; nor was this any thing to he wonder-
ed at ; but, only thiok of an inci ease is this expellee!
And, mind, an increase in nominal amount; so that,
taking prices into view as compared with money, here
is nearly Meet tunes as much paid for collecting the
taxes as was paid during high prices! And, can this
thing go on The man that believes it, never really
thinks on the subject, or is incapable of thinking.
The sum itself is enormous; but, why are the tax
gatherers to be paid as highly as they avere when
prices were high However, this question, like all
others of this kind must be left for the landlords to
decide. Nor are we by any means sure, that it may
not be for the good of the country, in the end, that
the reota-should, fur a while, he consumed, in part,
by the tax-gatherers. •
Ma. HUME AND THE STANDING ARNT.—We have
tsid, that we do not think it wise to render the officers
of the army a corporation, self-dependent ; but, we
give Mr. Hume great credit for his endeavours to cur-
tail the influence of that army; and we have now to
notice an instauee of the consequences, to kim, of such
endeavours.— I n Committee, last night, on the .11utiny
Bill, he said (as will be seen by our report) that, the
absolute power, which the Ministers possessed of dis-
missing officers at their pleasure, made'those officers
" completely dependent, or, if he might use the tx-
" pression, stares to his blaaxsTv.;'—This was resent-
ed, first by a person whose name is NIGHTINGALE, who
is, we believe, a General, and who aseeeted that he
was no slave. Next came Al Colonel of the name of
Tattecn, wholaid, he" dung back the insinuations to
" the foul source from whence they sprung:;" ant said,
that he was turps-ha, th;t Mr. Ihruishnnid " dare"
to throw out " luck an aspersion against s, body
of men, who surely were not unit "to sit
"in that House, because they bad deeottd years
" of thcir fires fo Me service of their rottier4o-4th
no ! not because of Mat (if it be ao);
.ovissitaU tha
Ministers can, at their pleasing, dismiss them, strip
them of their pay, pull off their wpaisiettes, and" take
front them the names of (lemma Witt COlotrel, and
others equally pretty, Colonel Tientkr Ackitt wfk
Mr. Husta's because. God forbid tlit ishnuld tail
even our footmen slates; but, then, all that-we can
to to oar footsies, is, to strip oar coats or their
backs; as—

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hips, even prettier costs: and 'getting other people's
pay, ands very likely. higher pay. We cannot take
from them the means of serving others ; tw cannot de-
;rade them ; we cannot even speak ill of them to other
.:mployerknoless we hare cause to eitew 'for it; and,
therefore, they are our servants, our lleing-ser-
yams to be sure ; but, not OW sisoes.—Sir FRAN-
Cill &MORT r followed this. Colonel TIRIINCII,
and, to begin with, he iosiste 1, that Mr. Hume's lan-
'sage was perfectly proper. He thee went on, in a
most excellent Manner, as our readers still see, and,
amongst other things, observed, that Iltsces roxe
treated the army as a knot Velure* existing in the na-
tion. We wish we bad now time to enlarge upon
what be said about the " ioffant tammalukes," of
whom we ourselves have so often spoke, as showing
en clearly the nature, and more particularly the de-
sign, of the present military thing all taken toge-
ther, and which thing and rents cannot go On toge-
ther. But, to proceed with Mr. Hesse and the
"Military" (leaving the infants for another time) Mr.
BCNNIT called on Colonel Timms for an explanation
of his words. The Colonel apologised to the Moose,
hot did not think himself called upon to go farther. It
appears, that, after this, the Cul. went away. It seems
strange to us. that Mr. Bexxex did not stop here. But,
be afterwards, called up the subject again in the house,
and proposed to the House to interfere, Bed the
Speaker decided that the apology of Colonel Tnencit
was satisfactory. But, now happened that which, to
us, seems the strangest thing of all ; fir, it seems,
that Mr. Heys said, that he did not understand any
personal reflections to have been cast on hint ; and
that he was sorry Mr. BIaiNZT had int.-educed the sub-
ject ; fur, that, if he bad thought the expressions to
contain any thing personal to him, he would bare
risen at the moment and don't... Jed as explanation !
Weare sorry to see a.l this ! We think this is not
the way for Mr. Hume to proceed, if he me.sn not
to bring his useful labours to a speedy close. He
forgets, perhaps, that Mr. Illinaurau had 426
challenges sent him in four days, by various per*
sons belonging to the Old Regime ! He forgets
the answer to those challenges: " I will take each
;n his tarn ; bur, all must stop, till we base de-
" moliabed the Gabelles" ; that is to say. the cruel-
est of thetaxes. The answer of Romance to ther.4forris
who challenged him was equally g..od. Mr. Hume
should read these ; and that would save him a great
deal of trouble. If he admit the competence of the
" court of lionoar" to decide questions between the
geveromeat and the people; if he consent to submit
his mid oar cause to the jurisdiction of thee court ;
if he allow that he, on account of his, efforts fur us,
can be called upon to plead in that court, he will be
as unable to do us anrAservier. se a lawyer would
his !Heat. if the lawyer allowed (as IN never does)
himself to be answerable la " the court of holsoar."


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