The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-03-06 00:00:00

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two of the Petitions—he thoeibt 'tliey lead no
foondatien.—tud ow the Wolf era estemniated
wernosent, in the woe of troth sad justice, he galled
do ;he nesse to reject the motion.
Mr. F. DOUG LAS allotted, that the Right non.
Member bad answered the anytime' of the Teti-.
ties by decterieg that l)ewhurst had not been at
gets, and Rise f;eihes wit deed.—
ipmeg vies a spy on the eiidence of 26 impertial
persons; his Immediate release confirmed their belief.
Tee Right Ilan. Gentlemen lied addeemed, himself
lineally to. the Manchester Petition ; en s amoral
question founded- on many Petitions and documents
of another nature, he had deiired to knew the ground
of the motion. Ile could not forget that the Mem-
ber for Bomber bad.pledged himself, on the leaner
t estible ee ideate prodecedbyt be Member for Shrews-
"eery, to enter into enquiry on Jul. sabject before.
distinct Committee. This option. almost of his owe
ieggesting, was 10 give that Jinn. Member the op.
iterienby he had wished fbr.• 'The conspiracy, in the
ltseiphee, whatever of it'hed•ezisterl, weependiced
'Phi, had twee prosed by the Petition
sigivA by 26 respectable persons, but principally by
the R•ports of the Committees of both. Bosses.—
roc this he could else refer to that Miserable
ioneeeine of Newspaper pentgialiks lesely preseneed
is the House in thef nem* of a' Report. Masters
themselves most allow the empteinsent of Spin.—
It was to be lamented that the Secretary of State,
with futh deep Priociltiet of religion, bad imposed
on himself the task of defending we who bad thrown',
Of the tie that lousily Mode even the guilty—the
principle of tint betraying their seeddistes. ft Was
also a somas of deep regret to en a character such
ps Genre) Ryas sawed in these transamious. The
}'olio Oaten weekd have his own Oliver, and
-would deleted himself by the 4:modem punned hello
floes. firecenary's Office. Prenotiou had ben
talked of—geoid it be mentioned by those who had
rent down agent through the country to instigate to
the commiasiose of alum? -[Hear, hear I]-114, lo-
omed Minimal not of reciting a cosapirsq, bet
• of blowing it into dame---of throwing • firebrand
into a heap of combeatibles—[ffeer, *ear !]—of
listening to partial evideeses—of raising alarm—of
hyperbolicsioaaggeration—of producing letters whey
they served their purpose, and suppressing others
from the same persons when hostile.—[CAsering.]
Mr. BLACEBURNE eseened, that the number
of names subscribed to the Padden from Manchester,
and those of the eases sentiments, bore no proper-
ties to the member who thought diametrically oppo.
site at Manchester. In four boors after the account
of the reseed of measures on the Pontine at that
place, a paper had byes signed by 258 respectable
iababitaats disavowing the matter of the Petition, sod
M had this day' received a letter from the late
Bermeghretee and Constables requesting it might be
laid before the Boon. The Ilea. Member hen read
the paper alluded to. it stated that requisitions
signed by many hundreds of the lower order of the
tees% to take into consideration most important
affairs la the state, had been Vs different occasions
eeferreitegbe present Magistrates and their late pro.
decessent..-that they had been refused—that sodas
of a see, iatlammetory eaters bad ben disseminated.
'—one Ada, that the present state of things would
*et last 100 days—others justifying the French Re.
eolotion, and that they had held midnight consulta-
tions for attacks on the town, &c. The Hon. Mem•
bar did not see any ground or necessity for enquiry.
Mr. T. COURTENAY said, the question was,
whether more had been done than was necessary for
penman. It was not correct to say that Oliver
wee/oiled eat for his es pedit io n.—[lkor, hear ! from
Lord Mikan.)-11 it was true that Oliver had in.
oeigled men kilo conspiracy, why had he not been
eross-examined by Mr. Dionne? lle had indeed
pit a question to one witness, but the answer was
little favourable. The Petition from Manchester
nasdisproved by the Magistrates of that place. The i
Report feraished evidence that no had been arrested
bat upon oath.—lle would oppose the modem : be
mew ne parliamentary grounds for it.
Lord LASCELLIS bore testimony, from per..l
*anal knowledge, to the high character of General
Byng, and was sure that Goserionent had no know.
ledge of any such circumstances, as that of spies ex-
Citing people to insurrection.
Lord MILTON did not believe that Government
sent down the London delegate to eacite insurrec-
tion io the enuttity ; but he cesstused 'them tor their
selection of the instrumem wied on such an occasion.
bylined there was sutfici...ir in the statements
respecting that man Oliver, to induce the House to
institute as enquiry. It was strange, that while
enquiries were made into every thing else, the system
of espionage was one which most be sissys kept
concealed from the prophase eyes of Parliament.
Ile *lined that the person in question acted most
imprnpnly. 'the man went dowse as a London de.
legate; and Government knew that he went down
In that character—( Hear, hear !),—because instruc-
tions WON given that he should not be arrested,
whatever he might say, or however he might act.
Be realty believed that the Genitives were afraid to
miter into soy enquiry on this subject. The Minis-
ters were not only to be protected from enquiry,
bet they were to be protected by law from the con-
sequences of their conduct.
• Lord STANLEY ifid, Minilteri had lent too
nedy an ear to aid Miles brought to them by the
spies; and it was, a view that they might be able
:to finites., themeelin, dolt 'be should now support
the Motion•for enquiry.
Mr, llENNETTobseryed, the question before ti..
. ,
`Rouse leaf simply, whether the Reports of this and
'the other House of Parliament were of such a nature,
cootnested with the Petition, on the Table, as to far-
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nide a prima facie ground for enquiry ? In opposition
to the ememioa of au lion. Gentleman on the other
aide, he would maintain, that his Hon. Farad who
brought forward the motion had not abandoned one
iota of bis case, or seceded in any degree from the
ground which lie bed originally taken.—[llear!]—
Ile was the Member who informed his Hun. Friend
that DPW burst, the spy, was seen lathe MOO carriage
with General Llyog ; nod such was the information
which he had received. Perhaps the noose was not
*were ofihemere of person whoa this Dee/keret was.
Ile who bed led the people with whom he commute-
gelid imie t tell—he who heft them caught is a net
trot which be escaped himself, was nose other than