The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-01-30 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL

'AIILLIMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.

MONDAY, JAN. 29.
Colonel DR INK IV A.TE R presented the Ten. h sad Ele-
venth Reports of the Military Inquiry.
LORD GAMBLER.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL, rose, and adeeiting to the Or.
der of the Day for a motion of Thanks to Lord Gatabier,
said, that he was sorry to say that his Noble Friend who in-
tended to bring forward that motion, was so much indisposed
that he w-ts trite unable to attend in his place that don. Hr
should therefore beg le.lte to defer the motion till Wedne:-
. day, when it was probable his Noble Friend might be able
to amend.
Lord t HIEN VILLE thought it would Iv- more adviseable
not to fix a day until it had been ascertained when the No-
ble Lord 'Mehl be able to attend.
The motion, in the Interim, ant Axed for Thursday.
THE WALCHEREN EXPEDITION.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL laid upon the Table several of
the documents which had beets adverted to in his Majests's
Speech. and observed. that he expected the remainder would
be ready in an hour or two. He hoped they would b
printed and ready for didsvery on.Wodoesday. when a da
isti,:ht be appointed fur taking them into cousideration. ts
The Margot: of I. kNADO WIN E rose. He said, tie hott
given notice a few days ago of ha inteotion to submit sumo-
hen to their Lordships on Titursday nest, relative to the
• miter contained in these Papers. He had Aso promised to
. take an opportunity, in the mean time, of givinga usore spe-
cific notice of the tendency of his promised wotioo. Skier
Veit time, however. it appeared, front the votes of the llouat
of Croninorol that it had been determined by toot Moose of
Parliament Out the cativo and cousetitsences of the unfortu-
nate mid disastrous expedition to t..e Scheldt should he sub-
mitted to the esniniantiou of a Committee of the n hule
House. The noution which be had Intended to make was
also one for referring that nialanchily matter ton Committee
of the whole House. Rut it had since been saggested to him,
that the issue of the proceedings in the other House might
possible he to bring the authors of that unfortunate mentura
before their Lordships in their *beta! rapacity. lit come:
wiener, therefore, of la'. -ugeestion, hr should Mr the per- 1
sent suspeted his kneaded motion, re-erving to himself. how-
ever, the power, in case smelt an evria did not take pine', to I
renew his entire of a motion for brin::ing that nin'a ""F"s-
perous todettaisine before their Lordships in their delibera-
tive rapacity. He should tow give notice, that on Monday
he shou4 move an Address to his Nlajesti. praying for the
prodsetion of inforinati..a respecting other points and opera-
limas of the Cainpai at.
Lord GRLY vi istied to remind their Lordships of certain
etpretlio.ii which fell from 14 Noble Earl (Liverpool) in the
count" of a former debate. Jurin„: which that Noble Earl
read a passage of a General Order. Iv the Horse Guard,.
relative to the victory at Talavera, observing, that the order
referred to laid had the sanction of his Mamay's Military
Ads isms. He took oeca.sion of dAy to mark the Immo-
pries s of iutroduciog his Majesty's name hair the deliates of
Last House; when time Noble Larl in esplanatim s.ti ;, that
it was not intratlit ltd otheiwite than conpied will the al-
•iee and re-roisih:lity of Ministers. What he rose now to
ask W:is, Who were the Military Adviser, of hicsM,tiesty
referred to by the Noble Earl
The Earl of LivEnpoor. replied, that the military ad..
vireo he had alluded to were, tile Commander-in-Chiet and
fire Mimes of hi: Stall, wh he consi lered as the ordioary
advisers of his Majesty on military ntrtits. whether the Coin-
emitter-in-Ciotti( had a seat in the Cabinet or l.nt.

lowd GREY pressed to knOw with whom curh advice hal
originated—worth& with the Coniusander-in-Chief °ow ith
his istle.ty's Minister.?
The Earl of LIV 1.. R POOl, declined answering that ques-
tion, on the ground, that si.nilar questiows iniAht be joie( re-
. spectiog the origin of the other mra.nre, which it might nut
he orop:r to discio.e. At the same time, he had no difficulty
ir. sat that the sufgestion, it it di:l come from the C -
usatider-its-Chief. had the sanction of his Majesty's
llfinis-
ten; aad that, if it did originate with his Matc.ty's
tcrs, it would have had the approbation of the Commauder-
in-Chief. In short, that such measures wet-• reciprocally
sanciirned by both, with whomsoever they might have ori-
ginated.
Lord GREY could not help observing, that his belief was,
that the order in qw.stiou had ori.inatcd with Ministers, and
(Jai it was rather curious to boar them read a immoral sug-
gested by throw: Ives, in praise and approbation of their unit
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AMERICA.

Lord GMEY wished tolnnw If It was the intentini twin-I
clioinion of :Sinister', to Iny before the 'louse any further is-
(urination respecting the bite negociation with datierical par.
ticolarly as I* Whit tripe/led the COlllitlei of Mr. Erskine in
the negotiatitut of that treaty. The Poers which hetlitould
be mint misiiins to awe were, the copy of ituiroctions sent to
111(► Eritaine, which had not %et !worn published, and the dis-
patch dated the 20th of April last. •
Lord LIVERPOOL conk, only lithe absence if his
Noble Frieial (LArd IVellesle)), that there etiged aft the
part of hi, Mojeoi-f, Ginrrnmtlit every ,disposilion to pro-
duct. evert, proper information no this tobject; but hea`oted
two, in the whyeocr of his Noble Frieod, pledge himself to
the production of any particular paper. lie should, how
user, take rare toacquoiat his Noble Friend with the wishes
on this head of the Noble Earl.

!..)ri GREY then gave notice, that on Ponisdny next he
houl4 inure fur the papers he hod just allaJed
Jammed.
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HOUiE OF COMMONS.

MUVDAY, JANT• 29.

Lord George Thump presented himself at the Bar. and
read the answer of his Majesty to the Adams of thit
Mr. Genet presented the Tenth Report of the (htnsmirsion-
ers of MilitAry lontriry, which was laid on the Table.,
Mr. WARI)I.I. m .ved. that there be laid before the
Mouse a return of the number **the Royal Stan*, with an ac-
count of the etpeuces incurred in support of the same for the
rite Inol, which was ordered accordingly.
Mr. PARN EL'. wished knOW if it was the intention of
the Chancellor of the Exchequer to continue the prohibition
for the distillation from grain, and if it was to be continued
with respect to Ireland.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was
not the intent io:t to remove it at present.
The CHANCELLOR of the F:XGHEQUI Rgavenotice,
that he u mold move on Wednesday for a Select Committee,
for the purpose of adopting regulations with respect to the
accuracy of Private Hills, nod for other purpo•es.

SUPPLY.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day for the House to re.
solve itself into a Committee of Supply, for the
pupae of taking into consideration his Majeity's
S:►etch.
Lord MAIION said, he availed himself of the
present opportunity to observe, that it was desk.
able Ow the taxes of the country should be col.

Iccted equitably, and not partially, from the while
of its popuLition, but ;.et a great difference ex-
Wed in the amount collected in Great Bs itain and
Scotland. According to the Report of (14
nance Committee, while itio amount of taxes in
this country amounted to 39,330,(XX)1. in Scotland
they did not produce more than 1,500,0001. and
the Income anti Properly Tax, while it produced
in this country 1,000,0001. did not produce more
than 600,0001. anti he therefore wished to obtain
some inform:dim' on the bohjl;ct.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, if there naps any defect pointed out in the
collection of the taxes in Scotland, he would be
very happy to have it remedied. Su far from this
being the case, application had been mule from
that part of the United Kingdom, for roasts alte-
ration to be made in the scale of the Property Tax
with respect to its reduction. Directi had been
given to ()Klein information on the subject, and
much hail hrefheollected, lost he was nut yet to,-
&bled to give mry decided information on the bu-

ec.s.
HoRNER, was of opinion, that the sub-
ject %hould he takcp into consideratibu elpthe'ut

TR E STATI

The CHANCELLOR 01 the E*CUEQUER
moveJ that a Supply should be granted to his Ma-
jesty.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, he rose for the
parpose of offering a few observations on the sub.
..jeci of the Supply, as he would not wish to have
it understood that those who voted for the Address,
or for the Supply being granted to his llajesty,
were considered bound to support the application
of the money voted according to the whim or ca.
price of Ministers. It was evident, from the
Speech of his Majesty, that it was the design to
prosecute the war in Portugal on a largo scale.
Now he rose to offer his objection, and to enter
his protest. against the disposing of any money td
be voted in defending Portugal. After all the rage
for expeditions, Spain has been given up, and he
understood that there were more troops under or.
tiers for Portugal, whin we could nut retain, for
when the French advanced, the troops must retire
to their ships, subjected to all the hardships, losses,
and inconvenience, that unfortunately occurred to
,tin British previous to their en►harkaiion at Co-
mma. It was evident, from the dispatches of Sir
John Moore, that that country could not be de.
tended on account of the numerical force of the
lenemy. lie was, therefore, against the prolonga-
tion of the war in Portugal, because he considered
Its being continued merely fur the purpose of ob.
tabling, the assent of a Nobleman in power, that
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ffither Nobleman might be considered as a kind
of Viceroy over that country. ' ..
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
observed, when any money fur that purpose was
moved in a Committee of Supply, she Right Hon.
'Baronet would have an epportunity) if he thought
Its to move an Address to his Majesty against its
application. There was no pledge whatever on
the part of the [louse, because the-Address was
voted, or the present Motion carried, to, agree to
the carrying on the war in Portugal, or fur any
-other purpose.

The motion was then agreed to, and the Home
resolved itself into a Committee of Supply, Mr.
•Whartrn in the Chair, and resolved that a supply
be /ranted to his Majesty ; the report to be re-
! ceived to-morrow.
hir. Whitbread deferred Win notion for Ameri.
cart .Pirpers, and fixed no precise dry fur bringing
it forward, in consurpience of more urgent bsi-
ness being before the House.
stNECEMI: PI, A Cr.S.

Mr. FULLEIL gave notice, that he would move
on that day fortnight, fur leare to bring in a Bill
to abolish all .tiinectore Places in the United Kipp'
dom, after the demise of their present p.►ssescors.
Mr. GILES gave notice, that 14e would • o:►
Th►irsday move for leave to bring in a 13111 that
would have for its ot►ject the amending so touch of
an act passed in the 418gh year of his present Ma-
jesty, as relates to checks upon Bankers.

THE INQUIRY.
Lord PORCH EiTElt, a- the testimony of
the Marquis of liontly w...sld be desirable on the
hsaeiry into the conduct and policy of the /ate'
gitouditkon,.moved, that a Nle.sage be sent to the
Lords requesting them to desire G...orge Baran
ew attend a eemoultttesel the 'lloaew-en
_ Ceb•Ptlrd.
1 Ski SlORSKlCreetiotteeirthat eat 'Monday
Wet be %you'd more for !recounts relating to the
**lea bullion in this erbu-esty.
Nll.l$llP/iPERS. •
Mc MANNING calleti the attention of the
Moshe to a circuinetauce which he regarded as a
broach of trite of its privileges. Ile Meld in his
band a newspaper, which contained two fiats
the mammal the Members of that House ; the 1411
consisting of the names of those who voted fur the
Inquiry, on tha last.debate ; and the ether of thhee
who were against it. The names had not only that
been given to the Public, but asarks had beee placed
against them to distinguish these who were in the
borough interest. He had been misrepresented,
but he weal) not bring forward a complaint
against the Paper ; his motive in noticing It was
tit put the parties on their guard for the time to
e, as, if they continued the practice he had
spoken of, he had reason to believe that many
Members of that Manse besides hitngelf would call
for the severest puitislment they could inflict.
Mr. CRKEVEY said, that se far from the
practice the Honourable Member had noticed being
a breach- of the privileges of that House, it wee
nothing more than what had been done by its ale.
order. In the time of King William, the name'
of the Mvnsbers and the side on which they voted,
were ordered to be published, that the country
might know whu ware most anxious to discharge
their duty.
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Mr. LASCELLES thought it was not so much
the publication of the names, as the circumstance
of marks being placed against them, that coutti.
listed the offence, and as appeared in a new list,
that made its appearance on that day. A misre-
preeentation with respect takefi
place, as he, according to that, appeared against
an inquiry, which was not the fact. • •
Mr. i fiIIERFORCE approved' of. the prnc.
;dee, and thought it ought to be continued, that
the line of conduct pursued by every Member of
tbat Mute might be made known to his constitn.
cats; but those whit presented such lists to the
public ought to be careful to see that th,/ were
correct. lie had reason to complain, as from the
misrepresentations that had taken place, his con-
, stituents might from this suppose that he had neg-
lected his duly to them, which he had never dune,
unless prevented by sickittss, or some unforeseen
circumstance. This was nut the only misrepre-
aentation of which he had to co'nptain. A few
.nights back he had been misunderstood by du Hun.
'Gentleman on the other side. Ife had disavowed
what he ha.l been understood to assert, but his
dittavowal had nett been noticed. It was of nu
small importance to public men what went abroad
as havi!ig been uttered by them in that House.—
Sonny Gentle:nen were, perhaps, more particular.
lv anemic(' to titan others, from their being par.
ticolarly connected with a party; but he being
known to be an enemy to all patty, hail nobody
to take rare ,if hint. [4 laugh.] lie could pot
say that he had lost his character through this cit..
emustanee, butt he wondered that he bad nut,
having been SO often misrepresented.