The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-05-06 00:00:00

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atitotimial responsibility in concealing u hat might be milting such an application of British capital was labour without
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, • the oltimnie policy of Government. . not perpetuating that detestable traffic ? But it was subjects. The .. .
Mr...WM SMITH and Mr. ROSE said a few .doing more also; it was positively affording 's pre. either Heaven o
t . words. mium ou the produce of those islands,• belonging to " Already ha
I Mr. J. P. GRANT opposed the question. No Governments which had-not yet abolished the Slave care, plenty at 1
s , combination of circumstances could justify, in his Trade, and, at the same time, inflicting It penalty of ail nations—
! i 1 ' opinion, what was at once unequal and unjust. on the colonies of such Sovereigns as had listened to many shocks, h
• , Mr. C. WYNNE supported the measure as in- the voice of justice and humanity, spoken to them when treason fc
. dispensable iu the present political situation of the by the British nation. He was quite sure that the seek refuge on
country. , I predictions of commercial loss that would be sus. ever, Europe hi
The question was then loudly called for, and the 1 tained by abolishing that supplementary and auxiliaty to its treaties, v
' ' House divided : Slave Trade, would prove as groundless as the pro. except ourselve
Ater . . 160 phecies that were uttered when the original measure are about to r
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—l3l was discussed. If they rejected the principle of the world, and, as.
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• SLAYF:TRARE. clause, they might as well reject the Bill, for where try.
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s On re-opening the Gallery, the House was in the the strength of temptation, and the facility of ova. . "In this st
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Committee on the Foreign Slave Trade Bill. t sion were so great, nothing but making the practice strength is at pr
I.t , Mr. BARING was as desirous as any to prohibit penal could prevent its existence, sions endeavour
il'i British subjects from vesting capital in this trade, Mr. MARRY AT explained. tion by his Callas
but heyet did not approve of parts of this Bill. One Mr. BARING explained, denying that his amend. King, end to dot
. of the clauses ought to be modified, and then he meat would operate against the legitimate objects if to accomplish
should have no objection to all the penalties which of the Bill, and therefore that to reject it would be I fall, it shall be
i the Bill inflicted. His objection was to the wording to make an immense sacrifice, without the attainment a great man cost
with respect to the landing or advancing money of any advantage whatever. . " Amid the
on security, which would render it extremely diffi- , Sir R. ROMILLY maintaineds that to agree to Francebave revi
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' the amendment would be to render the Bill a perfect cult to Derry on trade, in various particulars. we have never I
I A long conversation ensued in the Committee, in mockery. He was, however, of opinion, that the , doing good, wo
which Mr. Barham, Mr. Forbes, Mr. Finlay, Sir , offence against the measure should not be felony, but : charms, and we
James Mackintosh, Sir J. Newport, Mr. Douglas, misdemeanour, punishable by transportation, or fine • the exile in will
• Mr. William Smith, Mr. D. Giddy, and others, took and imprisonment. He suggested also some modifi.. spent in dreami.
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part. •1 cation in the description of the property to lendP son people, if our c.
ft was moved that the time should he immediately : the security of which was to be prohibited.' I tare with all the
for Europe, three months for Africa and the West . Mr. \V. Smith and Sir J. Newport opposed the ! terminated—and
k Indies, and six months for the eastward of the Cape ' amendment; and Mr. Marryat and Mr. Forbes sup. , France to the otl
of Good Hope. ported it. , now afford us st
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Mr. WILLIAM SMITH thought, that some of Mr. BARING proposed to modify the clause, by . cannot be abuses'
.ihe old leaven remained against the total abolition of limiting the prohibition to such British capital as the Machiavelisn
. , the traffic. I might be lent on the security of lands, buildings, United by the fr
Mr. BARING explained, that what he wanted ' slaves, and growing crops; thus leaving the capital , pie, they march
.i ' ' was only justice to persons at a great distance, and • lent on the security of floating property anmolested. end where heart,
as who must have time in order to know what was 1 After some further discussion, in which Mr. Fin- I ''•
happiness of nu
passed. I lay, Mr. Wilberforce, Mr. Marryat, Mr. Serjeant t spite of all the t
12.1, • Mr. W. SMITH also explained, and stated, that Onslow, Mr. Forbes, and Mr. Baring participated, ; tremity, that the
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f: - be had spoken hastily, but meaut no imputation on , the Committee divided : ,
• his Hon. Friend. For tine amendment - 7 : that the small nu
Lord MILTONt Against it - •- 5? i led proposed a further amendment, l'llajority •
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including places beyond Cape Horn within the period I Mr. BARING then proposed an- arnendment to I regard France at
of six months. leave out growing crops and buildings in towns. i find the French r
; .. . The amendments were agreed to ; and some alte- Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH contended, that this spected, the labot
rations were adopted in other clauses, would be defeating the whole object of the Bill. . they will reserve I
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' Mr. BARING commented on the inconvenience Mr. MARRYAT said if the Bill were to pass. those provinces i
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' r respecting the advance of money, under various cir- , without this amendment it would destroy the founds. I turn to their duty
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~ . ounistances, by merchants, particularly as it affect- tion of all our commerce with the Spanish and Portu-1 " This restric
pr, i sensibly afflict u
I . .. ',. NI connections with the Brazils; and proposed to ' guese colonies. The great advantage possessed by
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1' • • one of the clauses au amendment by the insertion Great Britain in trading with these colonies consisted us i but "'hate"'
of the words "to lend any sum of money for the in the power of making advances. endeavoured to i
t purpose of carrying on the trade in slaves." He had I Mr. BARHAM opposed the amendment. t tentions, since on
no objection L-to other words, if they answered thel Mr. BARING said, merchants in theirdaily trans- ! bets,
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‘ purpose more eff.2ctuall v. actions, were in the habit of taking security for the 'vice to think th
Mr. 11' YNNE wished to insert AO words " Co. igoods sold by them, on the crop coinfng down, and ; been altered by a
• lollies, domiiiiteis, and territories," which was' of receiving an order on the Overseer for it. He ales of libellers,
'1 •• • agreed to: • was willing to limit the amendment togrowing crops. a faction, too TM
, 1 Mr. BARHAM resisted this amendment, con- - Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW opposed it.
caress those who
ceiving that the law would be quite nugatory if the : Mr. FINLAY conceived, if the security of the I
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clause under consideration were so modified. lode- ' growing crop were not excepted, the effect would be consider as now r
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It .i l' pendently of a desire to impede the Slave Trade, he 'to curtail very important branches of commerce. to recompense vi
was of opinion, that en wounds of wise policy ! The Committer then divided—
themselves to the
such loans of lititish capital as his proposition re- i For the amendment - 11 nish even to all el
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Peered to ought to be proltibiteil. But the facility of I Against it - - 49 withdrawn from u
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1' - evading the law, if the amendment wereadopte:l, must, ! Sir JAMES MACKINTOiII moved an ,
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le his judgment, be obvious. Fur instance, if a Foreign ment, for making the offence punishable by fine, im- - ---
•4 t planter applied to a British merchant for a loan of pesonments &c. •* • Mr. LOVE
30,000 i. to purchase slaves, the latter would ne- After some discussion, in which Mr. Baring, Mr. i some unknown
, i turally refuse to commit a felony ; but what then ? 11. Bathurst, and Mr. Serjeant Onslow bore a part, I
from Prison, i
ldi the former would obtain the loan on the security of the amendment was agreed to. in the House of
the his estate, and thus the law, under Honourable . The Committee again divided on the mode of trial
them that he he
Member's amendment, would be completely evaded, prescribed in the Bill,
while the Slave Trade would be promoted. But he For the clause - SS obtain his liben •
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ed the Committee to consider tine tem
out to the borrower and platiOn 1 Against it - - 11 is not far distil
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held the lender inn I this
, •The rest of the clauses havy ing been gone through, announce that d
transaction,. The planters in Cuba, Porto Rico, or
• the House resumed, and the Report was ordered to Nevrgate, Mn
the Brazils, could at present import slaves, after' .
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• ne received on Tuesday next. In the Fifth Year of discharging the freight and other charges, at the rate)
The Report of the Exchequer Bills Funding Bill
of 251. a head, while the value of a slave in our own I NEXT SATIJRDA'
was taken into further consideration.—lo be read a
4 colonies was 1001. Thus the foreign planters would - . •
. third time on Monday next. Dite NY N.—ON Li
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1 " from the. low price of labour, be enabled to cultivate
their plantations at such a per tentage below our own , .
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ob. TiIOIPiAND GU
tamed leave to bring in a Bill for further regulating
. planters, as must give to the former a decided ad- the Registry Arr. ' •
of Ships built in India. vantage. Ile was well informed, that there were 1 .. - .-••• •
ts Tine other Orders of the Day were then proceeded 1 a
persons inn this town at the preseut moment, nego.!. t,
i dating for loan., with a view to gain by the ne. after which the House adjourned at half-past 12 •
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farious traffic to which the Bill applied. But it was ° Hank.
impossible that Parliament would allow such specu- - .
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lateens to succeed ; for, exclusive of its desire to HAMBURGII PAPERS. i per Cent. Cons. 59j
4 per Cents. 72j
discountenance the Slave Trade, there were various --owe-
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considerations of general policy applicable to both , BANES OF TUE VISTULA, APRIL 20.—The Russian ~ ,
war and peace, a hich should urge us to discourage I army, to the amount of 223,000 men, and 76,000
the investment of British capital in foreign do- horses, marches in three columns, under Field. THE.
i minions. 1 Marshal Barclay de Tolly. The column of the
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Mr. 3erjennt ONSLOW contended, that if the right wing proceeds by way of Leipsic to Bamberg.
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clause was rejected, it would be better to reject the' The centre column marches from Lublin, Warsaw,
.Bill also, for without that clause it would only be &c. by Breslau and Bayreuth to Nuremberg. The !AVM
1 I a saloon mockery to pass it. It would, in fact, be; column of the left whigenarches in two divisions, the
,1 to hold oat to other nations a premium for carrying • first from Ctacow by Prague to Eichstadt, and the -
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on the rave Trade. He doubted, indeed, the ge- second from Kalisch by Breslin, also to Bavaria.
octal polity of permitting British capital to be, FROM. flielterelletters Lent!. re.-It is under- Tuesday, the 2d is
.) vested in for ,Ago colonies; hut at all events he would , stood that Prince Antony Ridzivill will reside at evening of that day
f rather abande n any commercial bensfits, however I Posen, as Governor orPrussian Poland. } which are publishes
lucrative, than conseut to alter the clause in ques. ' We are assured, that the taking possession of Po. announcement of
• land on the part of Russia and Prussia will be pre.
hewn the articles we
'.4 Liul. T thought that the clauses.I claimed on the Ist of May. The King of Prussia,
t, Mr. .IA i.RYA. other. , . .
of the Bill were elfectua and valid provisions, and • it is said, will 'assume the title of Grand Duke of defence has already
• would have a beneficial operation, even though the' Poland. I territory. We hav
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' psrticular one under discussion, to which ha had a I Faom ene LOPTZR Rater, Aram. 24.—General on the point of cols-.
i decided objection, were thrown out. If that clause ; Dobschutz is hourly expected in Aix-la-Chapelle, to TON seems to anticil
: ‘ were agreed to, it would interdict all our trude with , assume military
the government of the countries on •
inspecting all the
the Rhine given to Prussia, and to organize the . . •
the Brazils, theCaraccas, and Buenos Ayres; and .
when it was remembered, ak:cortiing to documents i Landwehr. There are daily conferences at Liege, is said to have take.
! before the House, that the amount of that trade was I between Generals Blucher, Gneisetian, Thielmann, and is understood
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. ; ten millions annually, would it be said it was not a, 1 &c. With the exception of some pitting rencontres considerable treasu
of troles all isyet tran bil on
object worth retaining ?He was at a loss to coll.! pa , q the French con- the arrears of the a
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ceive for what purpose it was introduced. It could , • • bility of any disco
:1 , not be for,the sake of abolishing the Slave Trade,l Letters from Paris say, that when the war breaks
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because it related to a trade which was perfectly in- out, Bonaparte will be declared Pietetor. •
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ground for belierite
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islands where the Slave Trade was still carried on, At the moment when we are about to place our- reason sufficient fo
r Mar r]-Suppose those planters, by tine use and ap- : them, in the face of Europe, a formal Declaration of
• Sir J. hIACK I NTOSII said, he really could not' DECLARATION or nu: KING of FRANCE.
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Comprehend the proposition that British capital being .--.......__ account for Mvie
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slid not tend to encourage and promote that trade.— selves amid our people, we consider that we oae
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plication of that capital, were enabled to increase ; our Allies. , .
had got in his rear.
their plantations five or tenfold, would they not re- ' " When Heaven and the Nation recalled us to the
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• . retire a proportionate increase of slaves to cultivate Throne, we made before .God the solemn promise,
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