The Statesman.
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•I u nodergooll that by a law of the Cortes n ► modificat.
Lion could take place until after a certain time. Were
rot the Cortes justified in refusing to allow theetettiod,
of another Chamber? Then what would be tbe conse-
quent in case the King was vested Vith the power of ap-
pointing a Council of State to l-a converted into another
Chamber ? Every Member of the Curt'at he
tumid ba asade Reassemble- for bin esertoour of.
the freedom of his country, and- that when the time for
vengeance came. he would. be Seat into a duageou like
ifitne oftbe Menthels Ofthelointer Conte,. or sent to the!
I tusoisition of Valeecia, or the PrestaTios of Africa, there to
languish wit his existence. He bad been a witness of the
apprehensions of the French Ministry. He aas sittsfied
that hail the whole of the proceetingsatYrrrina. been htid
on the table before a war bad been decided on, Frame
month have been so cons laced of the impolity of the war.
that she would not have ventured to attempt it.
hew s to.
any negotiations since the King of -France's spete the
Chamber of Deputies, they were worse than nuiratory.—
Every. body who was in the capital at the tient, knew
that war was irrevocably. filed on. It was absurd to
%oppose that laying the papers on the table would have
been pkejudiciil to the negotiations ; he thought thecon-.
teary. All who were acquainted with OP.Government of
France knew that it was the great object of the ruling
pkrty there to regain their lost rightih They thought
that the army having fought, against Spain, would be
ready to fight again under the saute standard; and that
they themselves, having honours to bestow, might rely
upon the fidelity of the troops to remove the few retreats
of liberty that were to be found in France. The ruling
party wished to recover their feudal rights—they wished I
to restore their property to the entigrants—they wished
to get back the tithes. Let the House consider how
those institution in France which appeared to give a
hope of liberty, were curtailed and perverted. The law
of elections, Ad the state of the pers., were examples of
this. What must be expected from a system which recog-
nised such a disgraceful law es that which denounced
nonislinirin for an attack on those rights whit!) the.
King might have in virtue of his successitid to die throne, I
and which directed that for inaccurate), iwit report, or tot
an error which could not, have been avoided, an editor
was to be Ift:dished. and. bt ease of a repetition of
offence, his journal be siispended altogether. Whet) oat
can the Trial by Juri abandoned, and the lives and for-
tunes of citizens placed in the bands of Judges. who
n ere constantly acted upon by their hopes and fears—
when 'one saw all these thingi, was there not good
ground fur believing, that it was the aim of tha demi.
rant party to restore despotism, and abolish even, the I
semblance of liberal institutions?—(HeOr) It was ha- I
possible to say what would be the event of the
eat% n:
theft° the pe .ple of Spain appear to act on. the system of.
making no opposition tO the progress of the French
firces. But.whitliee the lavadiug army was successful
ot uusiccesaful,. every friend of freedom and human
right would hovel* deplore the event ; if successful. then
there was as end to the freedom of• Spain; if unsuccess-
ful, then Weald
.they witness the march of ftwishin
bands is the assistance of 'fiance, to, accomplish the Sab-
ine** of that country.... it n 1 this would ifeleedle I.
sertOttiZerontive for flifi coantry, and the hare sutra-
tido of it Ought to Mahe us feel that we mere now to a
siftiatian.When we could, more effectually than ever, put
it, tint of dtc..power of the Holy Alliance to carry into
effect any attack upon our own freedom, which no doubt
they would attempt whenever they dare. He should
elite fur the Address of nit Honourable Friend (Sir.
Tancdonaltly, because be considered that the pert which
thil country took in the late negotiations did not tor.
respond with the dignity and station of this country ;
and because he thought that the liotisters by their tun-
duct hadpliced us in a state of temporary cessation from
bostilitiee, rather than in a state ut durable and perma-
nent peace.a4Hlear.)
Itlr.-CURWEN considered that after the many years
that a• Ministers had been -urged to a pacific system
of pulley in that Howse, they had a tight to expect that
their Wegoelitionlion this occatiob, which bad terminated
withotit involving this country in hostilitiei, would have
been looked' on with a favourable eye. For 'his part, he
entirely apt:rimed of the line of neutrality in the present
circumstances of the country: He could; indeed, have
wished for a stronger expression of feeling on the part
of this country during -those negotiations. But -he
would ask, if even that stronger Pine had been adopted,
*cold ft have prevented the war? The Hon. Member
fir Westinimiter had said last night that so favour
able were his constituents to a a ar, that thee Would ha
le
ee
willingly continued their privations, in otter to enabl
the Government to carry on the war. lie (Mr. Corwin)
would undertake to say that his constituents were de-
cidedly against the war. His opinion was that thlicuitn-
tty was for peace. No man doubted that France ought
to be execrated for her invasion, and there were very
few, indeed, who did not wish well to Spats. But if the
honour of the country demanded it, hemils vert sure
that the Government would be generally supported
in undertaking it. Having for an long a period been
anxiously endeavouring in his place to obtain the
Mewith ssio of race for this country, he must
return his thanks
to Ministers for having preserved the country from
tar.—(Hear.) • • •
• Mr. 110KHOUSE old that be.wished to explain that
part of his statement Io Which the honourable Member•
• who had just "gat deceit' 'Boded. The import of the pas.
lige ep ellnded was to Chia: that this country, after hay-
*ntadesuth.a protest tigainst the threatened attack
Apon Spain, as befitted her honour and station to make,
4ntling herself ti oder the necessity of going to ear, that
then the niakarity-Of his.eonstituents mould be content to
indergo.their share of the hardens of war. But even
this declaration be qualified by stating that in such a case
it should be clearly,understooti that the.war had for its
'Object the preservation of the liberties of ,Zurope—that it
was, in fa. t, the war of the people of Europe against the
Kings of Europe.
Mr. ROBERTSON said that be was friendly to peace,
but not to ilia: delusive peace which promised to terud
nate speedily in war. He had reason to draw the con-
clusi. n that our voice was nut attended to in the late tie-
gociations ; we were considered to be ins state of week-
lies% because we failed' to take the opportunity, when our
influence was at its height, of securteg those commercial-
regulations that would have proved beneficial to the
country. (inc negociations were not carried on upon
comprehensive system of policy, but rather with a view.
to conciliate different persons; we imposed burdens even
Ou the people of the country to gain over the rulers of
inreign States, and satisfied them, at-not a little expense,
of our disposition to remain upon term-sof aunty with them:
This conduct -was attributed to our weakness instead of
jar want of prudence, and therefore it was Gist our
tar
Vileitee wits so very little ackomviedged in the late nesit‘—
'clatiens. Hs dialled to call the attention of the Hotise
tot
• the conduct of tints- country at the tin:e of the military'
'eccapittion of Italy. The Marquess of Londonderry stated
'IW Note to the Anitcd yowers,that this country zotilif
'Sewn to that tt.easure. Now, had the Noble person
• aidestited Orono. tone, had he st .ted not only would
We take, no part in that measure, bet that wa muildtake,
evety means in Our pcieer to oppose it. the consequence of
..suet a Inanifestatimsofinle "pt-Weed strength would be
such that we never would have bad to witheastiseilivasion
of Spain. And estotitig to the pioecedings at Verona, he
would ask was the Duke of Willhigton, a soldier trout
'.his birth, a British General fit to negotiate with uten who
always spoke a language to which their hearts were
• steatigers. Ile begged to remind the House theatntati Olcins
e n
the Doke of Wellington came .Frauce, hls tepres
to the -King of that country seemed to have so* staggered
his in his eauucils, that It was forthwith resolved to change

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'line or condent they bed hitherto adopted. ltogtte
foristry proceeded in the aline spltit, had we plageg 1,0 !.&
tlkiVeybei of Triitoe all that we had doom to restore lite Beier-
' hone to the throne of that kingdom—ell that we had done to
OveCintatitutiorrat liberty to Spain; and had we followed',
uittle review with the simple peremptory question, r. are
you for peace or for ear r —had we dement's, he sessooa-
'timed that peace would have been now resting on a sure
sad settled forudation. The Ministers, and those who
mere opposed to war, had very mock exaggerated lbs ess I
pens*, Ifs was of epiaion, thatin order to reader effectual
assistance to Spain, it was not necessary for us to send a
aingleman to the Continent. The House ovglie to be 'trate;
that the expense of the hells of ships was' as heavy to the
country, whilst they nerelying in the yatds, asif merited
been at sea. The only difference in maintain a ship atsenn
would be the necessity of 'implying her with mastasind
rigging. W. should remember also, that there scar a Sisk-
int Fund Olive millions. With the number of ships ale
ready prepared for service, and the low priee of tithe differentbe
articles necessary for the equipment of vessehr, would
in our power, with the aid of,two millions and a half, to
send oat *greater fleet than France could command. If.
then, we could supply Spain with the necessary munitions
of war,lether, people do the rest. It was impossible that
Russia unit Prussia.couid send troops to Spain, on account
of their want of metuey. He would propose-also, that this
country should assist Spain by other means. lie thought
that loans might be made to Spain to enable her to carry
on the weir. lie would not, however, imitate the conduct
of Ministers when they made loans to other Powers—he
world require security. The Govetnment of Spain might
veer well place in our bands Minorca. and some of the set-
tlements in Africa, as securities for the repayment of the
loans. 'The blknisteri seemed to have persuaded the mer-
cantile and manufacturing interest of the propriety of the
course they had adopted. But he was not at all sure that
tsar would net be for the benefit 'of those interests. Ile
teestaereri thit War earned on Under the limits which be
hadbeforetnentioned, would give an excitement to cane.
coerce; but saw' the country In general, he did not think
thatiewould be affected by the war. The country, ki. its
presetsprese circumstances, had every thing to fear—eve wer
losing our lest hold on the Continent, and persuaded th
sh at fear
was air last course; under these circumstances heOuld
vote tsr the original Address.
Mr.J. WILLIAMS said, that the question toneow
,
reduced to a very narrow coiupass. There was fei-
titre in this discussion which gave him the liveliest 6a-'
tisfactinu—namely, that front the very commencement of
this debate a. few nights bark, wben the Right lion.
Gentleman, with all the forms of oratory, and *mir of
the ceremonies of religion, offered up a Prayer for the
success of Spain, down to he latest toonseot there was
but one consentient opinion as to the nature, qtuility, and
ja:tice of the enterprise of France against the liberties
lof Spain. AU who had taken a part in the discussion,
I On whatever other points they differed, agreed on-tbis,
and universally adopted, with reference to it, that One
which befitted an Englishman to use. The general
voice exclaimed against it as a violation of all principle
as involving every thing that was odious in bad faith,
and disgriating in hypocrisy. This being so, he thonght
it followed as a matter of course, that squat continct de-
s,rved to have been deprecated tey all that remonstrance
could contey. There re..s no question ire " are yon
for peace or war," as some persons seeped to think.
Thu was but a diversion from the real.point—it gave
the go-by to the important question. The great subject
of consideration was, whether or not we had, by the
wild nature of our interposition, permitted that t., take
place which we have averted by a stronger and firmer
tone ; and whether or not our neutrality, as it now stood,
was-in effect worth a lialtyear's purchase. If a firmer
tone of remonstrauce would have been suceeseful in avert-
ing the war, Ministers could not now evade the reproach
due to their weak and irresolu'e conduct, by turning
rowed upon. those who investigated that conduct, and'
say, " Are you fur peace or for war ":" The nature of
the question being then put into its true light, the neat
duty was to sitter into a fair examination slit. And first.
be would advert to the manner in which the adverse piic:
ties bad respectively treated our attemp's to prove peace.
In the despatch of Mr. Calming to the Duke of Welling-
ton, dated the nth Decembel; 1:•,20, the Right Hon.
Gentleman informed his Grace, that there had been a pro-
posal on more than one occasion for the interposition of
gianil to preserve the peace of nurope: Pointing that
something could be done, the Right Hon. Gentleman re-
commended the offer of the interposition of the good offices
of England, and accordingly as appeared, by the despatch
from the Duke of Wellington to Secretary Clueing,
dated :7th December, an offer WRS made of the mediation
of England to heal the differences between the too par-
ties; and what was the reception of that note, on the part
of the French Governmentl—why, it was contemptuously
rejected.. _'its Duke of Montmorency, la his ly
ato the
offer of mediation, says , ••Ilia Most Christi repan Mjesty,
who was hound to weigh these considerations maturely,
bas therefore thought that he could not accept the media-
tion that his Britannic :Majesty has been pleased to pro-
pose to him. Ile sees, however, with pleasure, in his pro-
position, a new pledge of the concilintny disposition of
the English Government; and he thinks that with such
1 feelings, that Government may render essential service to
Europe, by offering, in like manner, to the Government
of Spain advice, which, by leading them to entertain
more calm views, might produce a happy :aliuence oil the
internal situation of that country." Thus the Duke of
Montmorency, while he rejected the offer of our media-
tion, recommended us to propose it to the Spaniards, who
bad .already expressed their willingness to accept it.--
After the rejection of this offer, Monsieur Chatesubrisud
replies in rather an epigrammatic sentence, that it would
be impossible to accept the mediation of England; when
no specific question of interest could be discussed, and again
recommended us to use our influence with Spain; so that
although France previously solicited our good offices,
I when they were offered by the Buke of Wellington, on the
'suggestion of Mr. Canning, she turns round and rscom-
I fiends him to go to Madrid, where they were ready to re-
ceive our interposition, and thus we find at no great dis-
I lance of time, upon the hint of the French Minister, a cir-
I cumstance which could not escape the House. an iuter•me-
inorandum, or renter a letter missing, was sent to Spain upon
the suggestion of the Duke of Wellington. He would ask
if there was not something extravagant in this conduct; was
it not new that when one party, and that not the offending
party, was ready and willing to • receive cur mediation at
rthe very time an army was on her frontiers and her lode.
pendence menaced—was it not new, that instead of reading a
lecture of forbearance to the aggressor, they adopted a tone
of forbearance to the oppressed; sad instead of pointing out
the injustice and wantonness of those who were about to
be guilty of spoliation, they called upon those who had
not yet forfeited their independence, or. their resigoatiou
to undergo whatever might be necessary to secure it, to
mike some modifications in their Constitution, and upon
this special mission Lord Fitzroy Somerset was sent to
Madrid, Whom a despatch accompanied, in which were
these remarkable and lameotable words—" Thus then
those Spaniards who really desire the peace and welfare
of their country, must look to an alteration of their Con-
stitution, which shall have fur its object to give the King
the power of executing Ills office. I confess Ido net see
any objection in this alteration, taller in the antecedent
conduct of the King, or in the apprehension thit Mai.
tholic Majesty still abash the power confided in him"—
What ! did his tirace set ',Thing objectionable in Coale:
terference which Mr. Canning, in hiseicapat'cli of the t 4th ',
of Jan. to Sir Charles Stuart, condemned? Wes thoitti
Own nothing objection title in this language of the Duke'
of Wellington to the Spaniaids ? Was there nothing in
-tit previous conduct of the King to kneel the confi-
deuce of the Spanish nation in him ? Dist bittiraci he.•
lieve there was nothing adverse to implicit confidence be
Ing placed in a hlutarob, who, in 812, cast assay-his
I cpeeili id a hauble, anti condemned mew to puniahment,
I let Whom lie wets unworthy; and who, after abandoning
lallbfountry And his crown, o hen again restored to it,
Banished into trackless deserts, or 'contagned to a linera
jogs.death in dungeons, these verranen whose mai!, guilt
Sari the-diegratte and dishonour of restoeheg him to iris
liseonc, The Honourable Member, alter making- noise
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allosionacite dot-omen% to %hoer. the weaks"
thh polias.
cy dise
Mestere. challenged any 'Honourible
,sfDerilleinalit- who might follow hits, to-point Out a sia•
gle instance during these negociations in which Mi
ters permed that conrse wilieh•was con:Anted with the
atigi4ty of the nation. They had, a% tilebt to complain
that the universal feeling of 'England was not consulted
during the whole correspondente'. That was reserved
till after the fact when the pipers were laid on the table,
and it was necessary fur Ministers to joatify their con-
duct to the people. of England, 'Fite question was 11%.l
snow whether we' skottia go to war `e'r'r
ro
remain at petite, but
whether Ministers, by delaying to apply pper language
to the conduct of France, have followed that course which
the honour, 4be interest, and the dignity of the country.
required. Who cah
fay, if the twat. sliould last twelve
months, that tee shall not be a party in it ? Or who tan
answer that the object of the French,. in this unjust, wer,
is not aggraudisetnent ? Who can answer, if the work of
reformatitprehould go on slowly, or. &there should be a
lack of argument among those accomplished disputants
from the banks of the Wolga and the walls of China, that
they marnot bate recourse to Russian bayonet. ? How
then would this COMM"? Stand? Could we tamely endure
that Russians aht old invade Spain? While free inatitu-
lions wereput down, could England look on with indif-
ference at such atrocity? If, on the other hand, Prance
should he sucnessful in her iniquitous career, who could
s,y that the war would terminate in Spain? What was
there in the territorial demarcation of Spain and Portu-
gal, if the former elloold be overrun, to prevent Portugal,
our Ally, from sharing the same fate: And then he
would. ask, will it be in the power of England to
continue at peare, or maintain the honour and &guile of
Ow Crown without going to ear? If the Duke of Wel-
lington had used different language from that iA his in-
stem Gotta ; if he had used * lirwer and a bottles tone, he
bad no doubt that the taisolt would have been different. If
"after the offer of our mediation hail been contumeliously
rejected by France, and it had still pernyereil, what if
some such language as this been used by the Duke
of Wellington c—" Our advice was given which yon
de-
spised, our mediation was offe•red which you rej
after tide, yoo still persevere in this attocions en'erprier,
may you nut e acetate on Ene land as an enemy ? I ones ,
detetided Spain, and drove from her roil the veteran le-
gions of Napoleon, nml I *bell not now fear your boy
antly."—Coatentiesi Catilimez 'taloa, et won peseistaeseetot
illus.—lf such language were then used, it would have
placed the country on the hitches• pinnacle of independ-
ence and glory.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—When
in an earlier stage of these proceedings, ass Hon. mad
',earned Meunier stated that in the course of these nego-
ciations his Majesty's Government acted under an awful
responsihility, he aptly described the situation in which
they were placed, because it was impossible for us, tan"
the country hail recently escaped front a war, unparal-
leled in duration and extent, to contemplate e renewal
of it without feelings of the deepest anxiety. When we
saw that renewed, it *mad be renewed upon principl-s
affecing the ri4hts of nations and the Lbertiee of the
people ; when we saw that it would be a war affecting
the relations *idyl we held mast dear and valuable to us.
—and when, above all, we taw that if renewed, it would
affect that country with which we were bound in the
reictest alliance, and that monarch, in restoring what*,
to his throne, ee spent our must valuable treasure and
our beat blood. In that view, in a question affecting
li-
berty itself, anti affectiog that country with which tics'
were so closely united. Ministers were acting under a
greater and more awful reaponsibihty than had ever
fallen upon any British statesman. lie could not con-
ceal it front himself, and the course of the debate showed
how lunch the feelings of the uatiou wree excited on the
resent question ; and if war it amaened to attit the policy
of this countrv, it was clear that it would not be difficult
mescitt the enthusiasm of the pe,,ple and carry on a war
npou the peinciple of resisting' those who would interfere'
in the interne regulations of unotfending nations—bat
it was becalm he knew bow consonant rich a feeliogwas
to Englishmen—that. it was precisely our duty to act•
cautiously in the course which we were to pursue—it was
because he must feel that the war, if renewed, would be
infinitely prejudicial, not only to the interests of Europe,
banning interested
bad beeg Ennlansaid byd. Hethe Hon.nand maintaied, notwith-
what Learned
Gentleman who had just sat down, that peace orwar was
the real question. Let their conduct be tried, and in re-
ference to this preliminary qualification—(Hear, hen.)
—and then it would he better seen if theta` urse we have
taken to prevent that great calamity--gr calamity, he
conceived he was justified in calling it, from the conse-
' quences it threatened. It would then, he repeated, be
seen if the course Ministers.had taken in the present case
Was such a one as British Ministers ought to base pur-
sued. Whether we looked to the nature of our alliance
with the nati, ns of the Continent, or whether we looked
at the state of Europe generally, or the state of England
particularly, there were abundant considerations to lead
us to the conclusion, that if ever a duty was inculcated
upon a British Minister, it was, that he was bound to
make every effort to Maintain the peace of Europe, and
above all, not to lose sight that it was necessary for the
essential interests of this country not to hazard a war.
With respect to Spain, whatever might be our sympathy
for the calamities- it was about to suffer, or whatever
night be our abhorrence of those who would inflict them,
for the purpose of forcing an independent nation to alter
its institutions--whatever, he said, were our feelings
upon that subject, if we went to war we should be com-
pelled, in the present divided state of Spain, to take part
I with one portion of the population against the other. He
knew that the lion. Member for Westminster, (Mr. Hub-
{louse) treated this matter with indifference; however, he
admitted Spain was divided into parties, but that property
and intelligence were on oneside, while the monks aod an
Ignorant peasantry were embarked on the other. This
*as, perhaps, true; but with respect to that part of the
population whom the Hon. Member called the ignorant
peasantry, it should he recollected that their ignorance
was their misfortune and not their fault ; and that if they
had combined against "their own interest's.— (Cheers)
'Yes I know not with what Confidence I could address a
British House of Commons if I did not admit that a free
Constitution would be a blessing to Spain.—(Cheers.)--
i Whatever be the conduct of England to Spain, it was err-
' tainly no reluctance to join'in the cause of liberty. Good
GOD ! COOlOl an Englishman show any reluctance to sup-
I port liberty-liberty which had taken such firm root in
his owntoil, and shot forth so many advantages! But if
the ignorant peasantry had combined against their own
interests, still they joined a party against whom we should
act if we took a part in the war; aod there was no
stronger argument against a war than the esivence of a
civil war in Spain, and the necessity of our joining one
party to involve the other in destruction, that alone
ought to be sufficient to dire' us from engaging in it.—
`lt More or lees than to take upon us
to determine between two contending parties, urging
one to the destruction of the other. He did nut pretend
to say that he cosh' look abroad at the state of Europe
with satisfaction. He thought a state of things bad re-
suited from the late twenty-five years' war from Which
we ought to keep aloof. It was not now as before, a
'tattiest shoat some trivial State; it was a contest Isetiveit
power and revolution, which, as the friends of liberty,
*e must lament for the t*ke of liberty itself. 'We could
'hot tanbark on the sidn.of power against freethim, but
ere should also take care nut to support the cause of
tetrolution acaltislall existing establishments. The state
• things en the Continent ought to make is nitiVons
ere we take any Steps in the present straggle •be
tifeett •Franeetinitlipain."' If we looked to tinaitnisitior
*fink Weltood, there was ;so tadiOttilibi''ltuakt

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wit admit that peace was our best policy ; an I yet nn
one would pretend..to say that all the •sactifiees which ' •
we made in the last war rendered us in.:ail:dile of going
to war if necessity required it; but every out who va-
' luta the interests of the country must admit that it bad
i nerd of repose, and that it ought not to he plunged lee
to another without an overwhelming lir ceisi ty —a wee.
In which he defied the ingenttity of man to see the ter-
mination. The Hon. Nleettser for lVestinitisier hut In-.
deed told theta, that, the was would he lo it soon. aid
trivial; that it would be only necessary to send out a
leer to crush the navy of Erttive ; but who could ray ii
the Dame once broke out when i: could he extingitisteedd
(Hear, hear). 'f he lion. Member was in tl.e habit of
ehargiog Ministers with delo.ling the people by holding
out Woe hopes, but if we tenharlsed in the *war on hie
principle, with only a Navy, while we kept do xa our 10i.
litary I.- :ce, wo should indeed be guilty of &Nines, be-
cause, whatever desire we might have tic.ray oil 0/ewer
un.tbat pviociple, what security we wield give that it
roaldeontione to he carriedon with essli•t!e chore. I (then
there was soot -thing in the equation of Spain, aid some-
thing in the nitration of England to ads p' es to keep
*or relation with our Allies, and to look on at the events
on the t'oitinent without taking a p•rt in theii, it could
out be deeded that our hest policy it i the present occasiou
was to avoid thefatal extremity of a war. lie terated,
that they were to look at the conduct of Alieieters to fan-
sees out that principle. and if it could he eleven that the
warm its re alt would be indifferent to.ns, or that any
substantial advantage would he eler;ved from it, then 44
would admit that the Hon. aleadifr was riglat anal Mi-
nisters wrong. But if peace oats Gur police, it waa in
reference to that our conduct shualel he juilereel. • itio
alojesty's Goventtoent had been :vv.-4y celled, to ore.
count. not for having plunKrd the ,4%;intry into war, or ,
mint sued peace, hut because they ...ul not prevenicet
two Powers from going to war, who. stood peculiarly.
eireitimataneed.witli taco o her. It had OS) been said coat
cur negotiations were deteUtive, hecouse wet did nat bold.
that high and dignified toms of remoostrotose which;
sonic theaght necessary, •l: eon the euhjece of remota-
strenee, however, there might he v trious opinions.—
Some might conceive that reunt-iteeapee • engin to, I. -,
in the tone and temper of the Noble Member foer S -
lishary (Iseril Fulkeston-), and other's might think•
titat it 'ought to be framed 10 the mote dignlimi lan
page of the lion. Member who moved hits Ati,ifto.• , It.
was very easy, to exhaust the Yoe:44aq oreit4teratio,
againet'Sovereigus with whom we were not at war„ hot.
he would contend that icicle a practice wet 1...h1y- rite, -
hensibk. At the mom 'time Le would not.. he 'map.
stood as wishing to restrain Boat. Members from freele
expressing their opiitioas in that Haste on 0116E4 Ilk%
sad poblic measures.—(Hear, hear). It wae, haweeet.
Impossible for any person to use yttuperative licetiag-
without raising feelinge of irritatioc. If his akajesty
Government had not acted with more prudepre , tha;:e
would have given a, toys of reproach to their n -gocia-
lions, which of ell things ought to be avoided, as alwaya.
tending to weaken oar good understaading with o h-r
Powers. it ought nut to lie forgotten' that. there was
such a thing as national wide, and theref or too langnatte
ought to be ineiltaiivards Poreigii Power: that was likely
to irrita e ; and it *ought sena to- he considered, that
if irritation diet take piece, we had it not in yer
power to contemn it. if our object was to induce
other Goverestwots to abainlon any nalticnig Hoe of
policy, be would ask was any mode more eleCtatai
than rational persuasion ?—(lie ir, tame ) The lid-
nourable,alember for Westodoettr said tact tie Inman-
menu of the Continent wooed them .elves to revolu-
tion all over Europe. Pirellubhouse here nbserved that
" freedom" was the word he bad ined.l If they appoe-ep
freedom an the ground of self-def.we, it teas a i unwise
and ignoble feeling, but if lir y were advent to it on &nee
other accouor, it was Ow data. or the House t_. apply thad
made of reasoning which teas likely to be, moat et,
feetasl towards making them change their policy. •That
was not to be done by invectives, but by showiog their
that there was more danger in repressing the princi-
ples of freedom, than •in suffering them to. Make their
way, as he (the Chtacellor of the Exchequer) believe I
they most in the course of events, and the Increased in-
telligence of the human mind. (ehiers.) After having
seentall the Powers of Europe united with the rarity-
against as- Hear, hear, from the Oppetaion Beeches)
-Lite stated cothing that was not the fact—we at last saw
them joined with us against the enemy. We cyttaioly
ought nut to have declined their co-operation, utterly be-
cause we disapproved of the system of despotism in their
respective States. The result was, that an alliance en a
close nature had been funned between them and us.--
That alliance had been rendered necese.ery by the mire
of uncertainty in which Europe watt pl iced at Ills close
of the war. It was impossiele to suppose that every
thing could have quietly settled amp et once, tLerit4se
the Powers of Europe agreed to nialutein ap alliance
'among themselves, and, as an Honourable Friend or, his
had said oa a former occasioa. it woald.have been unwise
in us "to cut the • conneetton." Ours ought still to.: e,
as it hitherto his been, the language ot p b ersuasion 1~
flier than of menace. Beat in saying this, did he inean
to say that we were not to make :ow reuionstraner, or
that the Powers of Europe' should be suffered to believe
that the maintenance of the principles thee professed
was part of our compact with them? No such thing.---, ,
And here looking to the document of 1920, the ]loose
woul•I find it couched not in violent but temperate lan-
guage ; and above all, they. would see in it a teriking in-
stance of the principles Which. the distinguished indivi-
dual by whom it was awn up bad always acted•npon.
It was there stated, %bodrotie alliance so tar as regarded
Great Britain, precluded nothing but tern oriel aggran-
diseinent ; -and that in no other respect did she feel her-
self bound to interfere. Such was the syeteso acted upon
6:.,- an individual who had been chargsd with having
leagued himself with the despots qf Europe. Ile (the
.Chanllor of the Exclieqnd intimately
ntio wuld sa of hiatotoel be
bad known him long amately, y that.oevee bad
there been any •Statesman whose character was more
misrepresented. It bad fallen to his lot to conduct. slip
.affairs of the country under circumstenees of grist a-.
culty and danger, and lie (the Chan• ellor•ot the Exch.--
I.oer) had had various opportunities of seeing how hy VT
equanimity of his temper, lie appeased• hostile deetioes
and reconciled adverse passions. lc was only nicestary ter
him to call upon Uentlenteo to look at two sentences in
the document, for an unequivocal denial of any Goiania-
tion on the part of the licitish Government for the abo-
minable purpose of overthrowing the liberties of tun-
kirol.—(Cheers.)—Tbe paper itself was never meant to
be' put torch, being intended solely for the prrueal of
those Powerson whoenit was designed to have an etfert.
He would maintain that in this demonic-at there was a
manly and vigoions protest against the principle ou
which the attack on Spain was founded. The Circular
after the Congress of Gaybach, in IS3I, was equally et
plicit on the subject. . That Circular Was said by eke
Hon. inember•tor Knareaborough, to be a commentary
On atheliplumatic proceedings. The r-ferenue made to
those documents- fifths Doke of Wellington at herons.
was very py,sperly net in irritating, but in temperate lan.
%nage. He would not aow gn into detail on the pars
the.iial been lold before the House. It was tery rail
for lion. Members to say that his Majesty's Shooters
ought to have.purneed one course rather than mr.ber.--
One lion. bletabor had said that ire had not gone far
enough in one negooiatioas at Verona, whereas She Hue.
Member fur Westminster said that we had cam plenty
succeeded three, and that the Gentlemen from the basis
.if the. Hon and theTanais, had joerneyed to the lute ell
mate of Italy for 'nothing, as they mutt return home atom
olthout weer. He (the-Chancellor of the
nn
einc•-k. ty believed Bait We did succeed at Verona, o'

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