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if witch restoration the country was now paylnt
(hear)—for the burdens it imposed tended lomat, to
produce the weakness which compelled as to decline the
part which properly belonged to u—(hear)—was it net
meet mortifying that notwithstanding the many tboa.
sands which had been lavished in their cause, that minor-
rested by the admonitions which should bate tiosgbt
them, and unmindful of the gratitude they owed Obis
Mlontry, as well as regardless of the part which itwas
binned to take for the protection of nations, thiedynegiv
itheralti be prepared blindly to kith into a greens which
this country was and ever should be bolted from principle
to dereeate, and to unsettle the peace and welfare offSotope which was said to hare been established by • general
pacificatioa three years ago ?—(Hear !)—Having beard
the sestimeats professed by his Majesty's Oovernment
upou the subject, he should decline arguing the merits
of the eoprincipted attack which was about to he mode
upon the independence of a nation—an attack which
was airedy proved by the whole of there:weeding* at
the late Congress of Veroisa, and mote lately avowal
in the Speech of his Most Christian Majesty to his
Chamber of Deputies. He hoped and believed he
should have but few opponents upon this question
In either House of Parliament. being persuaded that
there was no statesman, or may one who pretended
to the name of stateunan, who would be so base
as to entertain, or so bold as to avow, a concurrence
or approbation of that system by which it was awe
Intended to regulate the great concerns of Europe,
Hawing, therefore, no opponents, it was needless to argue
against the principles of that system. It was also no-
necessary to go into any discussion upon the merits or
demerits of the particular constitution which was about
to be attacked. What its merits were be had so means of
knowing. Speculative opinions he might materiels is
common with other men, but feeling a distrust in the
soundness of hie own judgment, be should Asada from
stating them to the house. But whatever might be the
merits or demerits of the Spanish Constitution,he fervent-
ly hoped that the unwarranted intrusion would produce
dm some effect in Spain that it did here. Cheers. That
whatever differences of opinion might exist as to deteile,
every man when the enemy was at the door, wouM rally
✓ound the Constitution with all its sins and imperfecti-
ons. sod reeerie to another aid more fitting occasion
any emendations which might be rendered necessary.—
But the great object to which be would call the at.
tention of the House, was the consequences—to the
best interests of this country, which would inevita.
bly follow from the system that is now proposed, if it
came to be g Ily acted upon. He Wetted them to
look to the countries where these prim:Wee were redo
end to practice, and they would find experience warrant-
ing the predictions which he was now making. Th.ey
would see that the States who were conducting this in
vision upon Spaia, though they professed to act spoil
the principle of petting down theory and experiment,
were themselves the boldest Ilium/Ws and experimeeta-
lists.' And yet the assumption with which they put for-
ward their experiments was as striking as the injustice
of the principle was glaring. To look at their state
gapers, one would be inclined to think that their
interference in otter States bad been always at-
tended with the happiest edects.—(Hear, bear. hear.)
Bet let the honer look to the history of the world, and
they would find all the acts of foreign interference ro-
mans as monuments of perfidy, and that in no instance
did peace or tranquillity proceed from such a cause.
The ,samples of Naples and Piedmont might be enough
to pitmen,* far it was in the power of foreigners to
bestow happiness on countries which they invaded. lot
the house, then, look at the consequences of this invasion:
of Spate is they affected this country. If the present
invasion of Spain to snecessful, what would be the
esineequence to the trade of this country sad eto
ieeroasi, arielog met of Mao otteepatiew-rafooaer
'risme is Spain by foreign tleops.u.(Hellvc-itet -
And turning their eyes to Portugal. he asked what woul be
the consequeness of tie conquest of Spas to that country.
u was dear thatlf Spain was compered 'sod brought under
the influence of the system of the Allies, it woad is
"Its inconsistent with those principles, end the temper
withashich they were propagated, to have a free Govern-
iled in Portagal.—Hear, hear.—And was not
thW Wintry bound by treaty to defend Portugal—to send an
firmy There, and had sot its interests been always identiled
with those of Great Britian? It ought, therefore, to be duly
Considered whether this country should sot at last be forged
*to war, and that at a time when it should engage at a de-
cided ditadvaatage.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped, there-
fore,. he had shown that the worse of the Frencl‘in
Spain,would be 'needed with the most disastrous consw
quencee to this country. But supposing. the French suc-
cessful I. penetrating into, though not to overwhelming
Spain, leaving one portion of the Government and people
perfectly desperate, it was not unlikely that, feeling
diemattives abandoned by the whole world, and despair-
log of all assistance, they would give a licence to their
Worst passions, and, with a view to the suppression of
1l good order, raise the standard of wild disorder and
misrule, which might be not only destructive to them.
'mires, but dangerous to the neighbouring states.
Very view, then, the admission of tbese,principles was
Unjust and irreconcileable to all the dictates of justice
and sound policy. With, then, a proper sense of the
crisis at which. Parliament was now met, be iosistell that
there should have been in the Address a more explicit
declaration of the opinion which the people of this
country entertained of the principles promulgated*
the Allies, and the-application of them here. In the
mean time he thought no new declaratioo in the Ad-
dress necessary. As to the introduction of any pew
• matter to it, he was decidedly averse to it, as it
might tend to weaken the importance which ought
to be attached to those matters which had taken
place upon the Continent. He had, however, yet some
hopes that the interference of this country might be used
to put a stop to these calamities. With regard to the
other topics of the Noble Lord's speech. he did not agree
with him that the whole of the distress of the coasry
was attributable to the cbange.in the currency. He
certainly adniiited that a good deal was owing to making
gold the standard. As to the Speech from the Throne.
he rejoiced that noticeind been taken of the state of
Ireland. lie loped that at length some effectual means
would be taken to restore peace to that unhappy coun-
try. Indeed, there was nothing in the. Speech to which
he objected, hut the want of a more explicit decla-
ration of the feelings of the people of this country.—
He should, however, quarrel with the phrase by which
the disputes between France and Spain were called " as
irritation subsisting between the two countries."—(A
KIWI.) He supposed that if the Court of linssia was
to send 100,000 inen here to change the constitution of
Parliament, the Noble Lord would merely say, that
there was some " irritation between the Court of Russia.
and of St. James's." The Noble Marquess concluded.
by again expressing his wish that there had been more
explicit language used, as it would be the best meatier
of averting the calamities which threatened Spain and
Europe, and would be atom becoming the place which
this crpoiry uugbt to hold in the scale of nations.-.
(Hear,hear.)
Th'e Earl of LIVERPOOL hoped that the Noble pad
opposite (Stanhope) would not press his amendment, as
unanimiti, on ibis {Jr asiop woad be of particular-ser.
vice.. There ties no whatever in tbAddress or
the Speech to provoke ib-
a motion, or to prevent him
from bringing it foremast-it more fitting time. It Was.
clear tint subjeiu of the comprellemove Were Of them!'
iqtrodueed by the Noble Earl could not recelvtidiat
issiduje, diacussiolt in the debate which Mipailk tonic
iihtee asi the first dsy of a Settle°, whieftlEir
tame demanded, and that if they were toil. bi diseumieti
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greater advantage separately and et ether periods,
If 'be noble Peer thought it tit, on another occasion. to
bring the i sternal state of the eon gtrf soultbe• co rrencv
before their Lordship.. Iseshould he prepsred to wet
the quieatios. He should hare stopped there. bad not
I the Noble Marquis opposite said that a !Melaka had
been committed by the Committee which rerommeaded
that gob!, and ant silver, should be the staedani of cur..
reefer. He should. however, not erase trsdefewl the de-
cisios passed in &veer of a fold stmodenl. instead
of a silver one, which certainly could Sot have
been adopted artless it load been meant.. es a
martial baishroptcy. Bat tors then it worth! have
been a circaltmer swab erf,attainisur thateritpct, which
it would bays been better to gain openly. If faith were
to be kept with the politic creditor; • gold was the only
fit standard. for the present he should not take up
their Lordships' time any further on that question, but
should advert to the speech of the Noble Marquess op.
paid te, which he must own went directly, to the topics more
immediately before the hones. The Noble3larquess did
net ohject to the terms of the Speech, but tbouitht that
they did not go far enough. and wished foe a more die-
ting' expression of disapprebatioa on the part of the Bei.
tish Government. Now he multi not comrsive, without
using hard words, eMch ought always to heservoided. S
more distinct opiates than Abet . expressed in the first
paragraph of the Spercb.where it was distinctly declared
that'" Faithful to the principles which his Majesty has
promulgated to the world as coastimatiog the rule of his
conduct, his Majesty declined being party to any pro-
ceedings at Verona which coati be deemed an interfer-
e's:sin the internal. coseeeoe if Spent on the part of 11
Foreign Powers. And Isis Majesty has since used, and
contiones to see, Me Mad 11111401111 eadrayourit-ind good
adders to allay the itritathen unhappily relbeisting between
the French and the Spanish governanehtv; and t *avert, if
possi Me, the calamity of war between France anti Spain.','
It wouhi be in their Lortfilips recollectiln:where the
promulgatlin *those principles wee. to lie fovea. It
was in the Circular Note verities by a dear anti lament-
ed friend of his on the 19th of January, 1921.1 n which
the policy of this country was distinctly stated to Ise—.
to allow every conntry to be the only judge if the loan.
Der in which it was to be governed, and not to admit of
interference, except as exceptions whirls the smelts, iPL
self-p eeeeee idiots aright require it Ant this aranifes.,
tation of one policy had not rested on that circu-
lar alone; it had been illustrated in debate. Aid'
explicit opinions hod been given ' with 60p/et ;.to
Spain. It hail beeo distinctly admitted dropout/hi
the Constitutions set up in Piedmont 1114.4 i 'Ns-.
1 pies, the Constitution of Spain was pundrawadosat,
sad all that had takes OM* in Spats was purely Spahish.—
(Hear. hear.)—That Constitution had been adopted is the
midst of the Revolution against France, it bed been ['cog-
nised by all the Sovereigns of Europe. and its eorrpesign
was In the power of the lawful Monarch at his return, bat
not Its abrogation.—(Hear, hear.)—He mightahen hove fil-
tered it with the general approbation,end I.e was advised to
correct but set to destroy. Spain firth* re-ebtabllslikl it,
there was sighing to show that those by whOM,It lead been
done had displayed a wish to extend It to other ‘Suarviee.-,-).
They .bad sotlialy not wished it, bat they bad offered a
most solemn dilettantes of such au Intentlos.—(Ufter. liver)
And, °reread Alieve all these itoporttnt c Insiderations,
those who If sitting is judgment en Span ought, itn
A is
be stro cocoa by the fact (oidely tiffesing in'
that re roar a neighbouring ,people in formet
times), ho er erroneous they might think the Spa-
niards in . .principles on which they proceeded to
cornea' th; r Constitiatiou, they could hot' bat arknoW-
ledgeshat their' conduct ltad brthertti been. as lie:(4ord
Liverpool) sincerely trusted it would! Continue to he.'
wholly untainted with any thing IlkiiEriere br violater.;
Upon these views of the subject, he teaste.l that there,
could be noaloobt on the mind of anyliten of *bat wig
ditipoileref -tholiescliab
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1146,_ „0r , siaftalti4.4l isttisofi
to act as a mediator, and without is abY-degree Adak.
lag fret* the pflatipleir *lrish tem MA promulgated,' to.
wee evil and to prevent war. jfe would rot sue that
be was very sanguine, but the *tor was not abraintely
closed; and as long as hopes of peace might exist, wood
become either the policy W the dignity of the nailed,
:Wiese strong language, which might defeat its pee-
, pee* ?.-(Hear !j—The Marquess bad objected to
tai, word " irritation" io the Speech : bat there had
bees ceases of irritation on each wide of the French and
.3panish Clovernments, resulting front 'the military occa-
oa of tint frontiers of both countries. A catalogs*
of podgy ;relevances of that kind might be given. The
Wert "irritatioo" did not allude in the least to then
abboatimed invasion of Spills,but to that series of little
wanoperatiag ocentrences which it might be in the
power of a mediator to, allay: He trusted that he bail
spoken sufficiently eitplicitly on the principle, the et.
feet, and•the danger orthe war which was contemplated.
He looked with anxiety and fear to the effect of that
war, notvn Spain only, but upon France also, and
through !dance upon Europe. Hoch as he deprecated
the war with respect to Spain, lie dreaded its effects still
more with respect to France. There was no man in Hai
'4oargerr whe did not feel that the policy of England was
neutrality ; but at the same time he would.oot say that
if a case kr it should arise, she was not to oats
war.—(Hear, hear.) Neither would 'wt Weir 'Hetes
to the notion, tome whence It wonldittltatlf: war
was necessary, this country was not in a silts bromic,
it without doing arty thtng incompatible with the main-
tenance' of the public credit. He was prepared. to assert
again and again, that, whatever probabilties might ap.
pear to the contrary, be did not consider that ail alloc-
ations slid prospects of an amicable arrangement were
closed ; and as long as a chance of peace remained, would
it be consistent with the dignity and interests of this
country to nee language calculated to place her In a
situation 'which wonld prevent her from effeethig that
object which it mast be the anxious wish of all keens of
Me to attain?

peace ._
Lord ELLENBOROLIGH said that he had heard
with much 'marathon the eulogy which the Noble
Lord had passed upon the Spanish nation, and the Omer-
rations by which it was accompanied.—He slid net,
hoe/ever, concur in the opinion that sothaiettedheaVbeen
done on the part of this coantry. He bad now
long fah that the conduct of the °overmuch of
this country was not such as to acquire for it hoe .ents-
!ideate of the people. This was so well known that he
could not bat apprehend that the Allied Sovereigns had
acted under the impression that the Ministers had used.
language whit!, went along with the feelingsof the pl.°
le, yet that their own opinions were not so Asian* re-
moved from those promulgates! at LaybachsodTroposts.
If the.Oovernment was sincere in its ',Tressed wishes,
tad the representitions wade at the Congress of Verona.
Mere stated to be backed by the people of England—he
was astonished that the'ilinisters had not called Podia-
Meat together, and obtained such a decieration.aswoold
Ville thorkl the Most powerful means of pretesting she
;Adoption of thtied yrinciplttos 'Which threatened the de.
Mricifiiaot ohlet'ind peace thioughont Enrope. If,
Mitwifisitamlidg 'me Speech Of the King of France—if.
siltlaithstaofteHtificatels of his tanker, there were
ti Irepei if pieferriog pee* by negoe i ati on, It e (lid not.
lilOirtiiilaniniftemf lite Address sufficiently s' ell he' to'
'euppbtt i-s!'ilii Oilmflotii %est co ntri hut., to its snetesafet I
!laMi,, The lej)ifit then expressed his epiniaa•Sa ,
tertitepiisOttl ice eflilitt6rek, and hs ovenpatiOn lit
ithstia, fot4lie (Oboe 6f filetikiding, or supplytng the-
.,
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litaallt of Siiiik et cult, of siert. Contiatertnif ell i the.
,h4ti'llsis beatings 'of the telestion, he looked.sto the tdr.4
lamination of the tnntait. supposing It to give. 'sweets tol
ratite, with infinitedilnusp. Therefore .itzwasibst•hol
1 d not think they begiel
~ M rehtssatisfledittith•tentAlti
...itinstrattnig ti 1W Ilialfit tettilliVkickivtiet Witbdiliillts.
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ALied Sovereigns two years ago. bopposing .tise
sent negotiations to rod in war, it would he imoossible,
to sly; that his Majesty's Ministers, by interfering in this
way, bad used tbrir beer endeavours to prevent Wilt, or
that thrt,hati thoroughly done their ditty.
Earl ' IthlrET raid. that although he might not he
perfect aatisfled with the Address, he could not agree
to the . mendrnent proposed by his Noble Paiend.—
'Otero was another topic of the Speech which he cort.•
siderest.' of es lunch to.portanse se say thing which
roalsl ;cairn ...before t tie &Steelier! of their Lordships, ma
woich,lie tad himself intended to bring . forward at OR
.eviv period -lie lirilkh tha ate, of Ireland. Front'
whil list hied staterfilibwere4 7* °inn dispeited to see
if any a.leqtra to taseastsres sneri7 iikiti, to (MOW from opmf.
ters.wsore eneoprtens than. astounikh, :mac the }abject
accirling to its paromonut issolitispo, lite hod'cisen
...
chiefly for tbepurpose of asking Pnble fiord at whsi
time the measures alintird to genii liittrte to be resealed
to the honk.. .
The Earl of LIVERPOOL, rudd,i that the. subject
would he brought forward se early as possjblo.
The Hans° then divided, when there apprared—
Pot the Address, 6i;—For tire Amendment, 3 ; —Ma:
jority in favortiof she Address, 19.
Adjourned.
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FR9II TUESDAY'S IiAZICTTIC.
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• ' Saslitaivricr eureasefin.
R. Ilygdlinadiebeed Lerleeshirti, 033,111111-14406.114
X•X CROFTS.
J. Ste‘th. lialree, Lancashire, ionssespbrover. arra-
der Feb. 17. IS, anJ Mardi la, at tho bog Tliter.a,
llln-
cheater. Aitoroip, Messrs. Adlinegla aid 44.. 11.44,4.
row.,Loadol4.anik Messrs.
,Claye and 211.1111110, Man.
cheater.
W. Stephens, Otfora, Ilqaor-setereßint. Fib. 18:411, and
*oral& at Reiblason .111emein't, • Oxford. Amenity',
hleesee. Walsh. textgrd; sad Mr.
Gray's Ina Lene.
' R. Wright. llateeld Stead Ong, Rumex. grocer. Feb. 13.
St, sad March 13, at Sesidgholl-stveet. -Attorneys, Messrs.
Colo and Wpwj, Ave Marls lan,.
I'. Dudley. Hrlehtoit.. carpet dealer. Feb. 13, tg, end
Ketch IS, it Reilloghell-street. Mtorueys, Messrs. 'Mew
aod'Menday, Fornival's Ina. •
is J. Newland. 'Liverpool. shoemaker, Feb. tS.
More; IS, at tMde.inte inn, Liverpon". Aborheya.
Cheek's.. Staple Ilia. London; and Mr. Hide. "Liverpool. •
• J.lWinsepas, Audoser, Gams, linen draper, Feb. 17,
and March IS. at ilia George Inn, Andover. Attorney!.
Ms. Bonateld, Chadians' place, London; and Mr. Maus,
Adorer. •
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1 . J. and E-Williagton.Birotiogliam. cabinet 0110 makers.
Feb. IS. In. and*arch IS. at me Royal 11-. tel. ftirminehmi.
Attorneys; MMus. Sviallie eat Co. Freterieles place, OM
dowry. Loadows and Mr. Webb. •filrmincliam,
J. therm. Great Yarmouth. Norfolk. cad Somm,laytpo.
Suffolk. and!. Green, nomerleyton. brick makers. Feb. IL
IS, and March IS, et the Brack Lion Tavern, airsailfer:
.oath. Attorney!, Mr. Painter, Great Yarmainktaid
Menus. Swain and Co. Fredericka Oar" Okl..kerry,
T. Byroti:Kini-street, Brwortmi 'unary, tailor. Feb: •
11, RI, and March IR, at itesinadiall-street. Aswan*,
Messrs. Robinmit and lice, Cbarter boast square.
J. Isanakint,' Butner street. Bromwich square, eon*
iniker, fhb. 1164416. and March IS. at lithaitchati-maini.--
Algot/My.. Mes,sra. Riche/Aeon and Pike, Goidea arms.
W. King, Edgware road. chresemonree, Feb. 13. IN, ni
March Ift, at %Wagtail-street. Attorney, Mr. Pophia:
Dean street, Hobo. -
B. Porur,Tatuston. Samersctaltire. drape:, P0b.0.114.
red March IS. at Rasingliell-vreet. Attorney, Mr.Askurst,
derabrook what, Bashtehail-straet.•
Leaviseept AND CarlalCa749 70.810aa011.1
ILetti.es hive been received from Rio Janeiro. dated
7th if December.. which eontidatbe following iftapertana
intepligeate :—" The ceramists" 44 the Cororalsowe(tbl
wo Enipoor.todk place on the Ist Duns, War spinet
Trvortutlai was immedistelyexpeeted tp be declared. All
merchant vessels belonging to the Mother I:sentry had
160.4 M-tied. Two frigates and a sloop Dad bablidataeli-
ed %amour the coast, pad. for ;he por.tim of militaries
Itira4s sailing under the Pot Wpm', Sat.*.
pretty smart repartee. was gives the tattier day at a
'place in theTeongate? Margo*, where mune finales were
•being made od di pavement. and a very e'orditied spar.
tabs left foe the lieges to walk upon : —A. lalleastifabowag
lady we, met at this narrow 9EI by two aentterarw.kotte
stf them an Palrklia " I prottat," lead
'the eandy, " this place le as aalifoili as ilalantes pan.
'Owe. ° Ires,"itaid bin neiniessdher. ".rd like Owe
donee, sq,pnagsrss is arrested ligsot.lsid." True,!*
' eaid.the lady. looking him fall in the face, at the mom
time gliding neatly, put hila, 1' and) Alb stopt by the
Art!"
• The shine of a narrow hadits Glasgow.
Letta,viTY.-0a Saturday se'anight died, at tin
house of her son, Mr. Wm. Waddles, Wonattem Coda
Mill, near bloomoutli, at the age of one hundred sad
four years, Mrs. Ann Watkins. This female, to whom
the Almighty had permitted au existence of pitria-ehat
longevity, was a native of Brinson, its the county of,
and near Heareford, where she married and nettled ; be;
.for the last thirty years hat resided of h her son so
above. She
.enjoyed a particular degree of good health
through life,'eVen'tiil Wi,hinshree weeks of
'She cued Mir to vend about a year aro, and when the
sun shone height; atm world stand whit her hook at tint
window; she -cold walk from, her bed to.lser sitting-
room without help till about a mouth before her 410401.
ar.d her countenance possessed a degree of ',attire/.
luridness till she was confined to herbed. The family
at Wonutow Wore, ondervisomMr. Watkitie had lasi
been a tenet, took great aotica
,of the old 104,41' vi-
siting her often. and admiolategirg jo her comfortd. Her
illness last& only there weeks : and she exprred without
a pang. pronouncing thinatim 6f her danghter.in4law.
Mrs Watkins, who attended her, sod was accidentally-
absent. She was, throrgh life, Lamm cheerful. virtninl.
and instill/trim woniant her bnaliap 1 died while yet a
young inie,.ana lift bet with a family of nine children,
o hoot she rear. d by-her o*a fiat-ions, and lived toted
them becosde !lieui niebihera of toelety Obit stertivoti
Mr. Watkins, above mentioned, bovinxit is pt+trsa
' to retain thomi affectiimatotimaks of attifttian.in her els.
treme old age, which ,he bad bee owed on him in kelp.
r less infancy. On Tritaley her remains were consigned
'to the tomb, In *WA 'a relative. Mrs. Jame,. had been
previously deposited, in Wensiteld chart:ll-yard, eie •
who had else lived to the gr. at age of one hoodreil sod
one years. It was Letuarkable that at Mrs..dailie4's fa.
neral the family had great difficulty in conveying the
• corpse to the grave, owing to the ettrense overflow t 1 •
the river Tr..rhy, and that the 'like tientionitasce shield
. again occur at the fusers! of MM. Watisinta—Beiald
Alercury. , .

. , DIED.
On the tith ult. E.. Oakley, aged 77, late of Blue Attao4
road, fierinendsey.
On the Ist Inst. et Worcester, E. Slaughter, rbill• of.Kib
aleiton. in his 67th year.
On the 2d inst. at. Canulen•town, aged 111., S..de lick.
sq.
- On thellth ultimo, the Rev. W. fdalide. minliter if St.
Alary-le.loonie parish tilapel, and rector of Duaselillieti-
fordshire.
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On Sunday last, at his ion In law's. eat 4 Mr.
Ir. ff ' *r;:1"
Fhqr,Pe; itllipmaVlolloway. iii his 7.11 d years 1. •
who had been upward{ of 1,10 years :ii yco tee
'Ciertrfiy iron Company, of the Doubler, IwUpyer'ittiW•s-
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