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LONDON, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, 1820.

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No. 4804.

" The name it* trbeh HAMPDEN fell in the Field, and SYDNEY died on the Scaffold.'

PRICE SEVEN PENCE.

BOROCUE OF BrItWICK-CPON-TWEED.
THE FHEEm EN this Ancient anti Independent
Bowel. resident in London Mid its Vicinity. are
rmipeetfelly requested tor the Friends of JAMES um-
Egiqmire. of Whittincham. Candidate for the Repre-
rstatiee of te-, tiorung:i in Parliament at the last Election.
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isy the 4' day of September, Mid. at 7 o'Clock in the
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MR. HUNT'S INDEMNITY.—Airvonot of Sob-
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Bubseriptions received at Dolby's since the above :
A few Friends at kntiover - - • 3 0 0
Morahan" Crompton, Esq. Lune Villa. near Lan-
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_

Will you swear you have not represented, you would
sorrender half your life for her if she could read your
heart may have said that, I do not recollect.
Bid you not say that if she could read your heart she
would be convinced of your attachment, your great
regard fur her t=d recollect having written several times
to my sister, but I vaunt remember that.
Will yon swear you did not?-1 have written to any
sister.
But will you swear you have not written to the effect
I have mentioned ?-1 wrote one in my journey to the
Countess of Sciavani.

which be contended had been come to in a liiisigrrins
Court at the last York Assizes, before Mr. Justice Bri-
ley. He, however, did not consider the objection of the
Attorney General to he captious, far from it, forhe knew
his Learned Friend was now lighting pro 'trig et foci*.
He held it to be a sensible objection, but hr considered
that he hail even the authority of the Law Officers of
the Crown in favour of the coarse he was taking, as
they hail allowed him to pursne it for two hours by the
clock, without offering any opposition to it, and he now
appealed to their Lordships if he might not persevere,
fur a short time, in that course which he had been
allowed to take for a long time before without objection.
Mr. Item GUAM sustained the argument of his Learn-
ed Friend, by minutely describing the circumstances
under which the decision referred to at the last York
Asses had been given.
The .VrTORNEY-6iNERAL thought be might dismis.
the argument on the nisi prilte case, by reminding their
Lordships of what his Learned Friend (Mr William"'
had said of cases quote,' on recollection : that the Coun-
sel who brought them forward were apt to take that
view of them which suited their own purpose. It wits
his duty, in the present case, to see that, the examina-
tions were conducted according to the rules acted upon
in the ordirary Courts of Justice. He maintained that
before the examination could proceed, the letter ought
to be put into the witseas's land for the purpose of oh-
tMning an admission or a denial of its Whir in the wit-
ness's hand-writing. That letter might he a true one,
but their Lordships had no right to know any liable it
it but from the letter itself. He was obliged to his
Learned friend for referring to the Nisi Prins case tried
before Lord Kenyon. In that case it was said the
davit or an office copy of it most be produced. That
was fur the purpose of its being read preparatory to the
witness being examined on it, awl therefore the decision
come to with respect to it, wade in favour of his objei.-
lion instead of against it. That he had not interfered
before, was no reason üby he should not make his ob-
jection now, and he must therefore submit to their Lot !-
ships, that the course which his Learned Friend had
taken was irregular and illegal.
Lord F:asnisa was of opinion, that the best and proper
mode of examination was, to produce the letter, and ask the
itness w holier it he her Imathwriting or not. If she denies
it. or doubts, then other persons should be called to prose
the fact. Ile thought there would he danger in following
any oilier coarse. Witness night hear parts of the coatenss.
and admit that she had written something to that elect; but
afterwards, on its being produced, she might den) basing
written that letter.

MOORE's IRISH MELODIES. •
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I,w Proprietor hers also to Mate, that in compliance with
,1 the Public fw an Edition of the POWI'HY of
t , euronnected with littoie. Mr. MOORE is at
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ttos, "4 that It will appear at the sometime with the Eighth
ywkwhes, the Poems of which it will, of course. comprise.
Mutratiels, !Historical and Picturesque, of the entire
trod, sse also in progress.
54. Walt*. Inept. lite.

I ask you again, did you not express yourself in the
manner I bare described to your sister ?—I do nut re-
collect.

To the effect I say ?—lf I have written expressly.
r Here the question was repeated, whether she stmke of
the infinite respect, the strong attachment, the uultanittal
attention, &c.
I hare written to me sister, but I do not know whether
I used these words. 'lt was to this meaning.
Will you swear von dill not use these very words. I
alight hairy used awns, because I was then attached to
Ale Princess.

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Mr. J. Kited
Mr. W. Wethered - - - - - I 0 0
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If IRRISON WILKINPION'I4 FINANCIAL REFORM.
THIS IMUNI, PRoPOSTO TO Olt COI,LOCTRO POI tasms!!

Attend so this. Ilan she not said to the same snite.
how often in a numerons circle have I not enumerated
her great qualities, her talents, her mildness, her patience,
charity, in fact all the perfections she possestes In such
an eminent degree ?—I do not recollect these expressions,
but 1 wrote to my sister mentioning her kindness to me.
Ilas she not used the expressions you (the Interpreter)
have put to her ?-1 do not swear whether or nut, but
to the same sense.
Has she not said this, how often hare i not exclaimed
against the world to impose so much unhappiness on one
who deserves it so little, and who is so worthy of hriug
happy ?—1 do not recollect the expressions, but I hThl,
written several times to that ere:. _ _ _

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Will you swear you did not use these words?—! do not
rerolleet.

You kept * journal while with the Princess 1— Yes.
Did you never mention."you cannot think. fay dear sister,
what a noise my little jourua I has made I have written, but
do not recollect the words ;" go on, speaking of the journal.
Did you not rite the expression that it has been snatched
at 1-1 do not recollect the expression.
Every one has heard it, Madame Logize begged of me to
carry it to Lausanne ? —lt is impossible for me to recollect.
But does she recollect whether she has written to that ef-
fect ?—I cannot /Men to what I ■m not certain.
Did site not she% the journal to Madame Logize 1-1 do
not recollect. .

But did the see it ?—Yes; but 1 do not recollect whether
before or after her return. .

I go oil now. Ito yon recollect to have used these
words:—" I have kern delighted in looking over my
journal, for you kno•v I say in it a great deal of the
hest and most ansialile Prioress in the world; I relate in
detail all the traits of sensibility and generosity whirls she
has she wn, and the ma:. net in which 'behave been received,
applauded, and cherished, ill all the places which we have
visited ?"—I recollect that I wrote often to my sister,
and 1 spoke of her Royal highness to that etfect.
Have you any doubt that you used expressions to that
effect; or will you swear that you did not ?—I will not
swear that I did not.
IN'S von make use of these expressions—" You know,
whet. the Prioress is the subject, I am not barren, con-
sequently my journal is embellished with the effusions
of inv heart ; my greaa•t desire is, that the [Princess
should appear to be what she really is, and that full
justice should he rendered her?"-1 wrote a great deal
about her, but 1 do not recollect the expressions.
Will you swear that you did not use the expressions
now put to you ?—I will not swear, because 1 ant not sure
of it. _ _

The Loao smcroLon said, that whatever might be i:;4
own opinion upon Use question, lie should wish it to be re-
ferred to the twelve Judges. The question to be submitted
for their consideration was, whether in the Courts be-
low during a rross-examination, a letter could be put in
and read, and a witht ss asked if he had written words •o
that effect, without first Allowiug the letter to the wit-
ness, and asking if that letter or the subscription, was
in the hand-o riling of the witness.
laird DoNoul;s1 'lone deprecated the manner in
which this ..ruls-ex.twitirtion had been conducted.
Lord L trUF:XUSLE said a few words as to the f ris
of the question.
Lord LIVERPOOL wished to submit another question
fur the opinion of the Judges. Ile wished to ask, if
a line or two of a letter were shown to a wituess, and
that acknowledged to be in the wi•ness's hand-writing,
whether a witness could on that ground be examined
as to the eastentg, without the whole of the letter hav-
ing been showed to hint.
Lord E4SkINL said, that an acknowledgment of a
small part of the letter, would certainly out go to
prove the hand-writing of the whole.
After a few words from Lord Mloa•roN and Lord
BATIIUKST, the Lon n CHAN' ni.ton read the yote.tiocr
and the Learned Judges retired. In a quarter of an
hour they returned, roil 'he Loan Jt•^l it a
Mated their unanimous opinion, that the fit-t qurs-
lion should be answered in tb negative. The see..n.l
question must be divided into two parts. rir‘tly. if
the letter was prosineed, and one or two line. • Ito alt
to the witness and acknowledged, whetli:•r that
would be sufficient to prove the hand-uriiiiitt : an•h
to that part, they unanimously answered in tit.• A...-
unitive. Secondly, whether upon su••h ackuowled:!-
Inent, a witness could be examined to the whole to '-
tents o 1• the paper—their Lordships stnattimousl t•r-
eitled itt the !Negative.
Lord Lioettroot, s•ugrested, that the evidence
should be and that part expunged which was
obtain •d its et•utralletion to the ()pillions which haJ
just been delivered.
t tout: was of opinion that th • evi-
d usee wiNiclt the Judges lw•l decided to be it reenlar,
ought not to be allowed to remain on their Lord-hips
journals.
Lard L tenant! %Le thought they could not in jos-
tier expunge front the minutes that which Connie' had
put u I it, without hearing Counsel on the subject.
Lord littsKiNn said, that if the principle as
adtuitted and acted silent of striking out all which hap-
pened to •tueei with their Lordships disapprobation,
there would be no end to their striking out. As the
whole was compass-41 of parts, and the parts were
intimately cosuieeted, a Id so hung neon each other, it
was obvious that wisest they once gave a loose to ►he
operation t..f the priming. knife, it was impossible to
foreser where the amputations would end ; in short,
they tui;;;:st go on till they " left not a wreck behind.-
-(shear, hear.)
Load L.►nsuon•Ne thonglit it was repugnant to the
interests of justice, to lay open the whole of the cr....-
examination in the manner proposed.
Lord ilay.nviLts was of opinion. that they ought
not to strike out any thing which was not uttlrt'ted to
by Counsel, with whom it vested, areortlint. ta his
view of the subject, to point out, question by pirstion,
article by article, whatever should be eventually %murk
out.
Lord Dosovonmons said, the question narrow►d
itself to this, whether they should publish the ex-
, amination which happened on a particular day, and
whi.:li, it was the opinion of the Judges. was irre-
gular. If their Lordships were willing to allow, that
to remain on their minutes, which was agreed to Vl'
iota evitienze as all, he had nothing more to say.

lf'ill you swear that you did not use them ?—1 will
nut swear, because I am not sure of it.

Ilave you any doubt that you did use them:-1 do not
recollect; I might have used them in writing to my
sister, hut I do not recollect these expressions.
Have you not sai.l to your sister that you were beginning
to want money ?—1 do not know.
Have you not represented to your sister that you must
economise es much us possible?
Did she not represent to her sister the pain that she felt at
not having done so do not recollect, not having mauled
money.
Has she not said, [do not think I was ever extravagant,
but I did not deprive myself of what was useful.
" How ran you n fish me to recollect what I have written!
When you have spoken to the House of a dostide cm-
did she not say this is her letter," 1 hall
I had almost forgotten to mention &circumstance that
has surprised mel—Yes, I was niftily aunts. on (the
time we could not bear) when an unknou II person
requested to hand sue a letter, and he would give it to no
one else. I desired him to come up to my room. Judge my
surprise when I broke the seal. A proposal was made toga
otf to London. to be governess, that I would get a large for-
tune ; there was nu signature, but, in order to assure toe, I
was desired to draw on • bank in London, for any SUM I
wished."
Here the Arronsev-Gesianax objected, and said, the
letter should be pot into her hand, and ask her whether is
was her hand-writing.
Alr. WILLIAM% contended the course that he had taken
was perfectly in order. He proceeded to argue that, iu
cross-examination, he had the same right to prove a con-
tradiction in writing, to shake the credit of a winless,
that lie had to prove a contradiction in what had been
stated in evidence.
The LORD LOArtvisume thought it would be right that
the witness should withdraw.

The witness then withdrew.
Mr. WILLIAMS pursued his argument at considerable
length. He called on their Lordships to juJgr by ana-
logy, from what took place in the Courts below, and nut
to decide merely on the statements of Counsel on recut-
lectiou, who might be expected to take that view of the
subject which best suited their purpose. He then re-
ferred to a Priem case tried before Lord Kenyon in
iu which the Counsel for the defendant was about
to examine a witness on the subject of what lie 160 pre-
viously sworn in all affidavit. Lord Kenyon then hoer-
posed, and enquired if the defendant had the affidavit or
an office-copy of it, which he held to be necessary, be-
fore the witness could be examined on the subject of its
contents. The affidavit was not at hand, and the plain-
tiff had a verdict. his he thought wade it clear, that
if this affidavit had been produced, the Counsel might
have asked the witness all the questions that he was de-
sirous of putting. Hut the affidavit not being there, to
examine on it would have been a waste of time. Why?
Because the Learned Counsel had no means of giving.
evidence on the subject of its contents, such as the Court
could receive. Tl•' Attorney tieneral, assuming that he
had the letter, and that its contents were true, tonic:tie-I
that he had no right to examine on it till he had put it
into the seitness's 'hand, and obtained from her an ad-
mission of it, but with a witness possessed of the acute-
ness of the person now under examination, to do that
would be as useless as to put into her hand a Nisi Prins
Report. He 'hewed that a decision similar to that for