The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-03-31 00:00:00

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portance. Ile hod two Petitions of a similar prayer
which he sboold sho►tly p►esent to the House.
Mr. DAWSON objected to the Petition ; one ola
limiter nature bed been some !Weslaco presented to
the Mese and it was rrjocted, becalm. lb. Douse
considered that the proper place for its itssestigatiew
was a Cnert of IA w.

Mr. HARVEY obs►rved, that in many cases the
want of pecuniary means prevented en appeal to a
Court of Low ; he thought this great public grievance
required some logidstive regulation.
Sir FRANCIS BURDLIT said, that the tyro
Petitions on this subject were of a very different cha-
racter. The one which bad been lately alluded to,
was of a private Wore; bet the other (the one
before them) related In a great public grievance, of
which the facts detailed in that Petition Irma simple.
The object for the lloose's consideration was the
chain of circumstances connected with that griev-
ance, arising from a power which the Rouse, as
he thought, bad very unwisely confided to the
Magistrates; and surely this involved an object of
the greatest importance to the happiness and comfort
of the greet body of the People. Alas of 1 jd. was
levied upon every pot of beer that was consumed by
them, arising entirely from this arbitrary system of
lieensina.—.(l/ear!)—.lle hoped, therefore, there
would be no objection to receiving that Petition. Ile
was informed that the amount of the tax so levied
open the community was es less than 8.50,0001.,
• ItUelll any irerieirt to that community, bat that it
went into the pockets of the great mersopoliaing
►rewers. It weevils-elated that the total value cribs
consumption of that article (beer) was 4,000,0001.
Ily. *f be fait was felt, therefore, among all
clones of people, bat affected one class above all
others, whom it was manifestly desirable it should
least operate upon.—(llcari)
Mr. WYNN wished to esk,whether the former Pe-
tition, which hail been mentioned, was rejected?
Sir JOHN OSBOItN replied that it was. It was
from Bristol.

Mr. BROUG HAM made some observations,w Lich
were only indistinctly audible. We understood
to move that the fortl.or consideration on t►is
be adjourned till to.morrow (this day).
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIFQL I .
Mr. HUME exch-.nged a few wends.
The SPEAKER re-stated the original question,'
since which it had been moved that ;he debate be ad.
jostroed until to-morrow. ❑ .
Mr. HUME hoped that the Petition would be al-
lowed to lie on the 'able.
'f be lion. GEORGE LAMB considered t►at •
question arose upon the prayer of the Petition. Was
it or was it not the same as the former one? If it
was in effect a similar one, then, indeed, Gentle-
men on the other side might meet the Petitioner by
telling him that his remedy was with a court of law :
but if it was of soother description, not merely
praying for his own remedy, but for a general re.
medy of grievances, it was decidedly differen•, sod
was to be viewed in another way.—[//ear!)—lle
submitted that the Petition was for a general remedy
of grievances, and ought therefore to lie upon the
table; that it was to be considered on its own merits
end on its own grounds; that being fur • ',floral
remedy of the law, it was • 6t Petition for tb• con-
sideration of the lloose.—Uleer!)
Mr. BROUGHAM wished to observe, that the
prayer of the Petition was for relief. Now, in an-
swer to what bed fallen from en lion. Gentleman
(Mr. Wynn), that relief the Petitioner could not
obtain from • Court of law. Ile might move for •
criminal information to be filed against the party, bet
then his circamstaocra were such es had been stated.
What relief could he obtain by applying to the Court
of King's Bench? None: it could not give it him.
Ile had, therefore; applied for relief to that House.
lie was not, for one, disposed to go the length of
seyhig, that the House should never receive a Proitinn
from the subject where he might have his remedy in
a Court of Law. That would be too strict a course
of proceeding ; and there were many cases in which
deficiency of the law might reader as sf•pliation to
that Hoes* necessary.
Mr. WYNN acknowledged that particular circum-
stances migat warrant a different course; bet
thought, generally speaking, that the House acted
unwisely in admitting complaints in cases wherein the
remedy was already provided for by law. On the
same plea of poverty, they might be called upon, in
any other instance, to enter upon their Journals
complaints of individuals against Magistrates who
might have no opportunity of replying to them. If
they once allowed this sort of practice, they would
have complaints of esery injury which any Wiwi-
deal might commit against another, and the same plea
advanced of inability to defray expences of a law suit.
Complaints, indeed, against any public person, or any
Government Officer higkin place,were cases in which
such complaints might properly be admitted. With re-
sped to what had fallen from his Honourable sod
Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham), he must how, of
'course, to his superior legal judgment; but lie should
have thought where such expressly illegal conditions
ware attempted to he coupled with the retseual of
the Petitioner's licence, an action would hove lain
and been good against the Magistrate who proposed
them.

Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, but no
division took place, and the further debate eas ad-
journed antil this rimy.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT wished to have the
evidence he bad alleded to printed. It bad not
been yet beers the lime, and might be soon pro-
duced.

Sir ROBERT WIISON concurred in the pro-
priety of the production of those Minutes of Evi-
dence. He believed the reset, of them was highly
creditable to the principal Brewers of the Metropolis,
and be anticipated, therefore, no objection on their
Part to the proposition.
Mr. WYNN enquired whether the evidence taken
before 14 Committee had been r►ported ?
Sir M. W. RIDLEY observed, that he had be►n •
Member of the Committee, and it was late in she Ses-
sion whets their decision was made. They wer►,
however, extremely anxious that the evidence should
be wittiest.
Sir F. BLIRDETT then gave notice of hi. Wen-
lion to move for a new Committee, and that t►e Mi-
nutes of the last shool4l be referred to it.
Mr. FYSCIIE PALMER presented a Petition
from John 03" Y! • Ntlvai Officer, setting forth his

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sessfios, and comptsinink that he had not mat with
d.. pagasatian,
On At Pntitiodu with did not conclude with gay
formal prayer. it was nbsemed hr
TM SPEAKER, that the object of lAe Petitioner
mast be reflected from the rotors of kis complaint.
and the circumstances related in it ; bat there weer.
two marginal notes in red ink, which, ilaether, in_
tended as interlinestions or addition,. did not appear.
The Position was am withdrawn.
DELAY IN COURTS OF KQUITY.

M. A. TA lf I.olt wise to move far arm woo. t; .
amount of she elem. of monn la the Coati of I.:Wearer) wet..
she snot ,1738. rid in retry loth year from that haw. ma ma*,
to .low the real briar« Mine in thou Coml. and so she appro./pat jurisdictims. Jill 111444404.4 sines In sic ived
arisdki ids. by a ewer Cows besog messed ; hit hems •
leaded it had Worded as reersmil relief t.. moor*. lie real
miespaarative etaiemews to Mow obsit the ahoy. before 0.
riorowery Gomm kedswarty doubled Moo the seeming. of
Vice-Caisacellsoie ram. Vas all the them Judges iss Clusa•
eery he had the bigterst respect. boo, sweeithelms, he was de-
termined to try ossd wwwwe the dolfiriellies fro= Milan I.
Chummy. iii. object riot. to semis.. the Mehra of Baal -
ropey from the Great Neal. and be now env. moire that on the
enure of the Serioot. he v0.M.1 move so that elect. Is I.:14
well lames that fie. every Clem la she hlatbw Mere us*.
substnasial appeal, had there am wow Irons tie Caen of Como.
eery s low it ovoid ant be a salrtoio•inl appeal. when the memo
Jude.. ass ia the Nome of Lard. as in Showery. It sr there.
fan. a were mossionl oppeat. Tr attars alas object, he world
ranee Gar ma accaant nt.the Ittaireity sit the sedge.. to shy* tins
it era. highly tatty...per that oirllfib of the praperts of the
114.14r$ •144.10 i pit.. soder the judemeat of sae WM. He thee
waved for an aceouen of the mod animal of Me abets of
seisms in Ch.rsrrr, in i i5O. awl is every teeth year shire.
The SOLICITOR-GEN }ALAI mid, he was of amiable Mal
the Ilan. Meadow wield dad himself mistaken. if be thesis
the termed of armor I. Croneery wits had ineramel. A. to
Hookrupo Pesitsono, be believed they would be Brawl to have
comiderubly Warmed. In consequence of she 1111•111141101bie
▪ We* Chaiseellor. be hod bemi iorapable of &Mongolia.
meat is several appeals berate the House of Lards. The pre-
ens Gard Cloaarellor had dreaded more appeals trio say ether
la the same period.—The somimi was ohms agreed
Mr. I). GILBERT. in lasing to mole his maim for the Re.
galotion of the Oki e of Lord Jsotice Orono' of licoilami, mad.
be imerled I,s ..,Moil .Ite .are Bill to the Home ue leeyaw.
ii set she los a eV. In te I and Justice Clers.bas he wield pro-
pose no Maar( nr soliawasicr for is. lie °tongued leave to berg
M a S II to Regulate the °Mee of Lord Joliette Umaral at
Sembiod.

Mr. K EN N I Me:tined leave to %How is • !Mille impolitic
she Steller rewire In In Pingo 13. heuslinal.
The Alk.ill Riil .rat abruagli a Cossinee. ad mar
miler,' Is reposi:r4l In. union ow.
The Report at the Maury DI-stibutlao Bill as.
usolti ay. rad lie Bill Marred to be rraJ a Ibirdlimelo-
..srr.a writhe labitireperi Allotratier Bill.
The Lari.e L.tebers Bill Was ordered is be roomisaiorJ ea
Er iday.—Adjosided.