The Statesman.
London, England, 1814-11-10 00:00:00

4r-g/If part.of'the-Notne-moruo-sueervii‘woor
be remembered, that.thaegh we were at peace with
one power, we were not at pence with all; and that
thiruhiselit tbr service of the• country required it,
Gnat was.fully
.jeslieed in kheping embodied
atimewemgiments of the militia as seemed necessary. 1
111 it vrerieoteneceseary tp:lstrop the whole embodied,
,regim
hew Were these counties,: 10,140 ents
,were
Aaitricl"in service, InjoNettlat ;the other counties
"beret relieved. from the burden f. Adverting to. what
.had fallen (swathe lionserahle Gentleman who nark
ioo4,osqieished himself in his command of a militia
teligtept, her restly eekporiledged that nothing
cold by 'mays creditakle than the conduct of there..
Which that Honourable Genttemaa-com-
-miritiet,'aUd declared that his Majesty's Ministers
werst-anxiotri to take the first opportunity of which
their: duty would permit them to avail themselves, td'
effgrithe reduction of the militia altogether.
licirirMlLTON observed, that the Preambles of
the Militia Bills ran, " Whereas it is expedient as
-4"1
defence against invasion." Now really he did net-
'suppose there Was any apprehension of her beingiu-7
' v td by America.. •
Lord BRIDPORT then brought up the Repartz
lebich was agreed to, and.the Address was eidetect
liibe presented to the Prince Regent by tbe;mhirbi
Noose. • Such Members of the House as were of the
Pri-Ify Council were instructed to-wait on his Royal
' 'Highness, to know when be would be pleised to re-
ceiie the same.
• On the motion of*Mr. C. GRANT .an abstract
war ordered to be laid before the House of the net
reduce of the revenue for the quarter of the year
lug the 10th October, 0111, And for the quarter
Yearendiet distinguish-
%am Citstoms, the Excise, • aed the other branches
o revenue. •
-14 r. C. GRANT-immediately presented the above
paper, which was ordered to he printed.
' MILITARY ARREARS.
jo. TIERNEY espreued his wish to see on the
table et,the House an account of .our Military Ar.
rears on the Continent, up to the peace of Paris,:
_z;
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
Aid, that the accounts. were so blended with others,
Hake at present it would require a great deal of time
'to make out the statement required by the Hon.
[ietuitleraaa, an 4 that after all it would be imperfect.
By .tho period at which the Army Extraordinaries
*avid 14.0k/raids it would be practicable to pre.
'pare it.
the }motion 'of; the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER it was ordered, that the' House
'-bhonid th-cierrew Cake. 40to consideration his Royal
iHighness the Prince Regent:a moat gracious Speech.
Adjourned.' •

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COURT OP CHAvvoRRY, Nov. 9, - •
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ant LAURENCE WA V. LpRDeLIDTOW.; . i'•
'the Lone CHANCEULOC this day, gayejudowlip,
in this lent contested potion, which related 'tn....*
kelp of 4q,0001. borrowed for vii of the No.bis 4;1
fespilant while a minor. . .... .
The question was how much of Ifiti ibis. ve stuns.
advanced by the Plaintiff from his own funds, Ili ,
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hcrw ritual from other funds belonging to the .„..
the motion, hats argued at pne of the finele..bikii
Term, and storm!' forludgment lis the River. •''
The LORD. CHANCELLOR ,:41ifilct.R4 the pa •
.to in exceptions before the Master to ascertain
*cant
[indifference.—Motion granted. ,
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EVANS V. JENISINS AND OTHERS.
.- This was a bill filed.opon si question of electing-4i '
the duty of Preacher at a Diesentiog Meeting
of Public VObrehip in Wales; established aboat:de
_year 1749 by *a. deed of donation very improsmer4
exerted, and vesting the.right of election of •••
;U.04 surviving trustee, or his representative in pil
AXttility, 'with approbation of the pew holders, or
certain number of them. . .
Sir S. RointLLY supported the Plaintiff's'
•against Elie Defendant, who elected a different pea
from the Plaintiff, who was chosen by '2O of the'
:pew holders, an4.who insistecron his righeof elm;
lion against that made by. the Defendant, as the rp.
presentative or the list, so raising. trustee.
Mr. LEACH; for the Defendants, objected teals i
'Plaintiff's claim principally on the ground of - ' '
mality, or irregularity in proceeding by a bill, I
of information in the name of the Attorney.Gt
sa was usual in such cases.
The Loan CuaNCELLOR was of a different opiski,
' from the last Learned Counsel, on remembering tog
IHardwicke's decision in case of the parish of IL'
James's Clerkenwell, wherein it was decided that
information would not apply, where no fund or ea*
lament had belonged to the elected; hut that reliir
might by bill be had, althoOgh a moodiest:l was a •
,best remedy in such cases. His Vordship -
404,;
.that it was difficult to conceive how any wan casil..i
, :preset'ra
have vested such unlimited power of electionia the
Ire t of the surviving trustee, who ' l'
, alive
- be a Papist, a 'Fork, a Jew, or a heathen. •
r
i rules and doctrines of Dissenters were not knows*.
us sufficiently, and be•took time to read on thank,
ject.—Judgment was deferred.
NACOS! V..LAND AND OTHERS.
This was a case in part like the foregoing, bit& .1
finitely more important, and Stands over for jtalp
meat till Friday.. 6 ' ' 'l'4. ......46, .

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tint', had oezteerp.. skt. thdttott. tit-A11...11Q , rt.ihr 1 ERN r. k ~.:
lies. That ' tau. create no iiirprise 1 ifi it was dina • lad. tiaMtritiliftity
considered that all the Mthistaft of the great Allied troops, the putrishment. of thisni - Imo ,
Powers bad been employed during-the summer in special commission, to the Marqqbef G.l/4
jouruies and negociations..' "For that, tilid ether rea- So it was with.theDekii,of Y:?!.k..veh.i.#,• :qt.
sons with.which they were not acquainted, the rati- the Prince of SaitoCabOurs. ilpyr.l f't
fication bad not taken plice,-Itntc.therefere hellcats Orante had ibiOlute and, uticohttenliat et
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incomplete instrument, it hid not yetteen.pgesent. regarded the military opiratroisit only, bill !k
ed to Parliament. Such ' being the state bstllAellt VOW. ari if tt - "..
the ponisbment of the. 'll,, 4 lops
should feel it his duty to move. the.iirevious .4 ts. IPFli°6 in which 130111 i "Wl** jere n"ir.b.,`
open the present motion. The Convention itself. Pima. He trusted' Oat evil wiatt be t•filitoiati
arose vet of the Treaty Orehaumont, which hid ..ltiyi9g, to some Offiteti-of. the itritish urn* atIA
for its object to unite the forces of ,the Allies, in V.iprity similar toilet formerly enjoyed' by the Did
order to subdue the Over'svtielwincito*er of Botia: rtajaorGranby:spid the 'peke if, Torli!,, : Willi*
parte. When that object 'ceased, from the restore= , s'Pect to his Hon. Frieod'itnotitilt;7lll. 00 etbisitek
tion of the Boitiboir,. mach still .remained to . be
.clitfictlity in Making a retninlit it; Arireithregglet
. of any engagements that liiit :00n
.skteteo ititi-V.
alone in determinini the future oonditio% of the terri-
tories is !Itch were .wrested from the dominion of his. Majesty with foreign rinyeri. Mt- re: Atjt.
France ; and it Was agreed that -each. of thecontract. , Von.. Gentleman had achholl!lic*.tr'l II ; sish :
engagement had been Made, • afill.:thit". it fititlbeeniei'
lag parties should, notwithstanding, keep on foot a
proportion of that geom, of force which• had been' tilled by thiecountry. Why not priktface ta.• 'lt:
stipulated in the Treaty 9f ChauntonL The troops was important to do so because the retorts Would tot:.
In-question were sent as part of. our contributions; cessarily be accompanied. by• a statement: of ilia "
t*
towards carrying on the war, and they would have , sons which bad occasioned his Majesty, 4, NI the.
been equally sent. there had no treaty.existed• . The only one of the contracting parties: by litho* tiff;
Treaty of Chaumont had ,beeu.,,sepctioned by the.; Treaty had been ratified.' To him it appeased to be
House; and the employment of . troops in the I.cw - highly indecorous for Ministers to talk of the 0nt1..,_
Countries was only a part of the engagements enter- .ployment of British. troops 'under a foreign Powir
ed into by that Treaty. Independently, however, of ~without having-put Parliament in pimientos of spy,
any Treaty, he apprehended there oats. no. place to document on the subject. It 'wt e 'highly injuvitetas,
which they coultibave been sent, more inteiesting.er , he believed it was unprecedente4, for Pealiannitalo ,
mere important, than Holland and' the Nethoriantls.., recognise such an applicatiiiti of British traoptirith.
'The defence and protection .of those countries had, out any pierious"CorinnueiCatien from; the Crowl.,
al wiry' been,considered by.every Statesman as of the ;It was besides highly desirable to know tbe precise
greatest mameim,.and he believed that if he had had _nature of the Convention, Whit was the number of
to apply, as.peobably he might have to . Parliameur,l, troops to be furnished by Great Britain? Sotee said
for the support of a body, of troops in,the Nether. 40,000, others XO,OOO. By a 'third set it was tak
lamb,. independent, of any Tieaty, he shoup meet moured that '75,090 men 'cal the'
whither to befer:
their approbation. When the Contention .wets rati-1 nished, with this condition; that it a fesier' number
fied, it would, of. course% ,Ite communicated .to the ; were sent; the deficiency should be supplied in money,
House;; os if it sboal4l happen that the • Allied i. at the rate of 281: a man. • Would The -House. sib-
Possess,. in couseeoenee of any...arrangements that mit to be kept in ignorance of the facts? lie aHow-
may be snidest the Congress, should think it, neceaed that Belgium was to us a most interesting country.
sary now to ratify. that Conventicle, then .also some But was it a sufficient answer to all enquiries to say,
explanation would naturally be given to Parliament. :that our troops were employed there, without pro- 1
With regard i o the illustrious individuttl.who com. ',duping any details of the conditions of their service?
mended the n,. he perfectly agreed with what ,had,l.Htt, coed not see why the Treaty had not been ra-
fallen from the Honourable Gentleman, as to the I tiked. It was ciiilous to hear the. Right Hoe. Gen- :
little probability of any misconduct on his part, •hut i Stamen !ii, that because all the Secretaries of State,
supposing such it case. possible, he. was certainlyti of Etteepe had been assembled together that a delely_i
atweivehle• to .tlie_ laws .of tbis country, , is a BA. i haderiseo to the completion of this instruliena If '
tish Officer,. lad .lieble to loss his rank and .amoluf.,.thitir ebitencitail occasioned clSofuslisa and blander-
ments. —. .:-. • , .„ ', . --4,14. ~.tlMt would fiare been Oifectly intelligible;" but'
Mr. WHITBREAD said,' that the kst argument as it was, he confessed his astonishment Iltetthe is.
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of the Right Honourable Gentleman, with which he tification had not taken place in half an hour. 7lt
seemed to..console himself, reminded him of the con- - was materialto know if the money to be firnitted
solution which was held .out. to that House some by us was.emproyed for the common interest,.er for
years ego,. when the Austrian loan was uegeciated. the particular objects of partiCular PerWeiti. 'Had the
It . was than said, that: if the .Emperor of Gertaany.CrSeaty beets frilly carried into effect ? The. itiOtj •' • • .
should .fail in hisettgagements.(and he did fail, for! HO. Gentleman said It had - beenacted sitSfen:' Yes; "ln our Parliamentary Debates yesterday, the fol- • .
. . ! • DiOrr, SP. DUNN.
we were still hearing the burden of that he :by us ; but bad it been acted, tiPart .4
the other : lowing Speech of. Mr. Fremantle, who followed Sir 4, 1. Ittawqr,ne..dtaied for a Rule to show
casts
might be sued in his own, court for the ,recovery.--'.Powers? if so, inodttielt,inaltathatfict.biliiwil. ..4G. Heathcote, was, in the hurry of the moment, . why' the proceedings herein should not be set stilt.,
lie bad never heard, however, that either the Solicit. ! What objection cieltitherepoisibly bafcrierVirlia.--nccidentally omitted. 'We are glad to see that Me,4,0110,4, gibend of irregularity. .-
The action wit tot
tar or Artorney-General had gon2 over to learn the 1 ment have the subjaintseathe Treaty? ' - '' • ' i'lFremantle has renewed the subject last night,-:-ICriuditalconiersatilin.- Theirregularity consisted is '
German language ; and he believe& the Emperor had I. Mr. BATIIIJIIST. Wild, across the table,- that he 'gide our Report of to-day.]
I.
.. rthis, namely, that in a ledge''. order, the mese at
!nation -was described robe assault and terspass,shillt
coosequently never been sued. Just so they were , had stated in his speech his readiness to afford that I Mr. FREMANTLE insisted on the necessity of 1
new told, that if. the Prince of Orange should Ws.. 1 which would be `fully explanatory of the Treaty is an enquiry, at a future period, into the conduct, of in the ac etiam of the .writs it was stated I* he for.
conduct himself he might be deprived of his honours question. - . ; the Admiralty. He was astonished that no notice assaulting and ha • criminal ml silk'
end profit as a, British Officer, and brought to this . Mr. TIER NEY was not ottite that the Isititt'. hid hitherto been takers of the large .British V.1174,' Eleanor Dyott the ,*;fit 4:00 Mihail'. il,i
country to answer such miscondoct, - But how was Hon. Gentleman had entered- into. o4r-impttnation i maintained in the Low Countries, and that no akin- . offence- of criminal conwiliation if it et any..
Leto be in-ought ? Ile apprehended-they must send ,on the auhlert. Had he said toy thing of the num-, sion had- been made in the Regent's Speech to the i tmag was net kite 4,41014.t0 'that he was mane''
i *armed force thither, and after "all' perhaps they !•ber of men to be furnished hy..this country? :' iteC.pnvention said at the close of the-last Session to
of; 'bat even ifL it *ere, be -admitted, that the eb-
a cold not catch hiM. --It was . really absurd and . Mr. BATHURST replied, that he had offered Ile'i. have been concluded With the Allied Powers for the jectiod' which he it
fetal to the proceediar, -
chitties to talk of bringing- a Sovereign and Jude. . the Honourable Mover, before he brought forward , maintenance of such a force. ' He-reported the con. ! the difference between the Judge's order and Ilis
pendant "Mace to an account in this country for any 'hie motion, to Kerlin:e, the substance of the Cises. I duct of those Sovereigns who seemed only bent on 1 l writ.—Rule Nisi raided.
triscovidacy'whiCh he might commit. He, for one, vention, and he bad jilt mil* that offer on ids aggrandizement. We had reiigned all our conquests, .. •
most thernughly disclaimed any thought of such mis- legs. • . - .• - • find had no indemnity. -He saw no security in..onr
conduct, bet they were to. look to possible circum- Mr. TIERNEY said drat he had not
.understood; state; and when the nation expected the removal efi
stancest • br adiertini to the other parts of the ; it so ; but that the declaration .of the Right Honour. ' its.burdens, it found that the Session opened with a
Right flottourable Gentleman's speech, it appeared ' able Gentleman was OW sufficient.- He would declaration that they were likely to increase. -
that they ‘whose infirmity he had pitied on the pre. i therefore sit down to *togs grab the only ear be
ceding evening Were' now as mach to .be pitied for had to the way in which the-communication wets to
their ignorance. The .Ministers- of the Crown in •be made. .
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that House came down 'to ask money upon the faith • . The CHANCELLOR of the 4XCHEQUER
of a treaty on which they had been acting, though observed, that the way would be .by laying .before
they did' nbt.krmw- whether it 'had or had not been • the House the substance of tbs. Convention in
ratified: As to the necessity'of an armed farce being c question. . . . . ~
kept in the Netherlands to' secure 'the fulfilment of Mr. Fremantle's motion wailben witactesitr.' •
the Treaty of Paris, if Inch a necessity really did ottOelta OF THE DAY. • :
exist, with the House of Bourbon as well as with The CHANCELLOR of OS• EXCHEQUER'
Bonaparte, he *bold 'a
cask for'* what had they been i moved therenewal of the Order of last Session,. by
fighting? They wereat peace, indeed, bat it seems !which (Wen of the Bey were to have precedence-of
they had no security for peace in the good faith of Notices on Mondays ind,lFrittass.
the contracting parties. When, therefore, could' Mr. wiurBREAD declared that he must again
we look for those trooptte be withdrawn, and when I protest against this arrangement, and *tie should
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would 'and he able 'to and alone? Unless the • not consider himself bound by it.
Convention should be laid' upon. the .table, he did The motion was then agreed to.
not think they would be justified in voting the mo. ' . . PRIVATE SILLS. ..
ne, which the-Right Honourable Gentleman might -On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
th-' Petitions

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COURT OF LT•NG'S MICR, Nai. 9.

Ceu. Diiiiiiuttitiaix,..titindeithtir of the report ee.
Sf. Doiningol. wai'laken prisoner by the BMA, hi,
the year 18013 ell his mintage tosiggypt in the Fated
frigate iiftleasn4;.- thii ship Watt captured by di
Phrebe,• under Vnerlinnmaild ef..Capt. the lion. Sr
Baocoef; after, a most brilliant action, os.
storable for tho-ottettenipled slaughter willi whiehtt
was attended oh the part of the French. •
thele five weeks 'past, no leis Asa is
glotasandbariels 9f herrings have arrived at Rob.
say frees the different fishing grounds; and notes*
.steriditig the gieai !identity, they all find a read/
market..• ,A;greitt repealer'. of them isbought fit
arehinri.: ,
Lest.heek asst ree b,riCitlayers mere employed is.
:repairing an. old., wall' fn. the. parish of Parkin
Ilacheston, Suffolk, the earth suddenly caved in,
4. and instat.ttly entombed a young mats of the same ef,
Wells' who unfortunately was, at 'the moment of
'the aCcident, engaged in bricking up the decayed.
:side.. Sp:great* mass of soil had fallen ou bias, that
hi 0)1114 lot be dap-eat till the Monday follewitis4
when the body watt found in au upright posture, COorf.
pletely imbedded in sand.
• INGENIOI7I Swyructwo.:-.;--A person was front,
klikeigkithe last Lanotshire assizes, and eentencol.4-
.blvllePtipoowl and stand in the pillory, for erditWl
gonds.freen different tradesmen, and enticing them*,
estioptit ilia orders, which-generally unmerited either'
Oiern • of Bask.
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require.- . •
Mr.B.DATituRsT said,that impoint ofsubstance, '
the thing stood now exactly. as it did at the conclusion
of last Widen. The mode of doing it, might, indeed,
be qestielled with by' the Hon. .Gentleman . oppo-
site. It had teen weed by the -Noble Lord, that
until the different arrangements with "leaped to the
countries cdh4uered from France were definitively I.
set 'led, ft was agreed by• the Allied Powers, itesta.
each atlases, shoe td Imp op a certain propc rtion'isl!
military force. •The other Powers had done thiS.4-.- '
The Cane itieltwatneke and unprecedented, and the.
proceedings reqdired by it *as necessarily the. ittme.
By thierreaty of Pads, gurpe had been left in a ,
'state such as it had neterbeetbefore. Belgitim wis
unquestionably the place of all others, the occupation
of which by British troops ought to be unattended '
by any jealousy, He denied having last night cha-
racterised: a Treaty as " waste" paper. What he
had said wet, that a Treaty was only 'paper unless
effect were given to it by acting upon it. For in-
stance, we had surrendered some islands to France.
Wese not the French to send a force to take posses-
lien of them ? The French had screed to withdraw.
Is 0m Belgium, but unless the fortified plates of that-
country were occupied, of what avail would be the
agreement ? •Or would thoiliton..Gtatteman dish
the protection of that countiy to be left to
or Austria, or Prussia, rather than to the nation so
materially interested in its fate as Great Britain ?---•
It was evident that thee Treaty of Chaulnout, al-
though not ratified, bad actually been carried into
elfeet by all the Powers. ,:With respect to the ether
10t,pltbe question, the arguments of a.. Aosiotir-
. OldeVfttletnin did,foe,
not appear to him to be at all
likpAah)sto the precedent of Prince Ferdinand. •