The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-01-08 00:00:00

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for the wooer in which It should be carried on. It nation so gallantly =rime bete offset by Sir
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was in bin opinion that there *hac' have been fro. Samuel Auchotutye and the brave army under his
spout descents made upon variouspetets of the French command. dam *were, Sirs a dilferenus3 of opinion
mat, by which meant not qoe of •those einniee which 1 tasy exist in the House,
cuss to the -advantages likely
ere no* subjugating Spain could have stirred out or Ito beiderived from this qut to Great Gritaiti,
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for in each indivitioal part where a zlesceat but there can be ho difference of opinion iu thinking
might be /swinged, a resisting force equal to the tsp. that the French Nation should not be the possessors
posing one must bate beer, kept up. The Noble of Java. It is a proud feeling, in truth, to us all,
Lord eenciuded his speech by seconding the Address Sir, that, notwithstandiug the wrecks of ancient
of his flea. Friend, wideh bad his.neepaUtied appro. Governmeots end ancient systems by which we are
bath
or. surrounded, notwithstanding the threats of Bona-
Lord JOCELYN.—Mr. Speaker, in tUffering from parte? or his vain beasts, of ships, commerce, and
the Ikon. Baronet iu every view which he has taken of colonies, his Hoye! Highness the Prince Regent is
the subject, I hare to coda
the indulgence of this enabled to declare this day to his Parliament, that by
Honourable House, under eircerastaacee which might the conquest of Java the colouial powers of France
naturally create some %tie emberrassment, even lo
on crudnged in every quarter of the world. With
person of more experleace in 'Parliamentary pr- to America, it must be with great satisfaction
ceedthan myself. Bet, before I proceed to we learu that the differences which existed between
tak areview of bar ;Araks, both foreign aud in- the Gevernment of the -United States and our Go-
ternal, a review from which I bope to draw a more eereMent at home, respecting the affair of the Chess-
*Acoureging, and, I sincerely believe, a more just pecker has beeu amicably arranged, and may I
eonclusion, than - the Housouratele Baronet is in- here offer an humble hope that this arrangement
lined to draw, I beg leave te ',nice otoe remark- may be the forerunner of that permanent friend-
able omission on his part, unieely, tied the filial ship -between the two ustions, whirler must re-
piety of the Prince Regent bra not appeered to him dound equally to the benefit of America, as it wait°
deserving the least comment disposed as be pro- 1 the advantage of Great Britain herself ; but Greet
fessed himself to be to commeod the conthect of his 1 Britain never can, never will purchase the friendship
Royal Highness, it would not, lam humbly of opi- !of America at the expense of her own honour. I ant
men, be inconsisteut with such e purpose, U be had , enzious now to call the attention of ti)e /loose to
entioned this with Lome marle of approbaion. The I what interests more than any thing I hare yet siderite
Ifouse, I trust, will not onlyeidee credit for ohe sin- ' tad. I mean tbnineernai condition of thieneneeteso
parity of ewe extertssionl, likt iVgn h arilidoleete i Nottrithlrtandied the war in evFliitleirisele iivi ens
with a feeling ea dutiful and as houourable to them- ; gaged, the incernal , wealth in
Niever was
*elm as to the litustlicuis Persenhge from whom 1 inere prominent than at the present day ; not-
they had proceeded. lint, Sir, in moving an Amend,. 1 withstanding the heavy burthens necessarily im.:
pent, as it must now be, to the Address of the Hon. I; posed upon the people, we find them contributing
Baronet, I have to lament, that it has not fallen to i with cheerfulness in support of that Constitution
the tot of some more able person than myself, who 1 under which they have so long enjoyed the essence
eliglat be better qualed thee I feel myself to be, to of real liberty and freedom. With regard to Ireland,
do sufficient justice to the sentiments of his Royal ; I congratulate the Ilouse on the internal teatiquillity
Highness, and of dwelling sufficiently strong upon , of the country, especially as much has gone abroad
those particular points to which his Royal Highness i regarding some threatened disturbances in the North,
has referred. The House costal ost sincerelywhich, by the iutitience ef numerous and respectable
cent, in common with his Ryl Highness and the ; resident gentry, ha: e completely subsided. I. am sure
enentry, the calamitous state in which his 'Majesty I the Houee will feel with his Royal highness the ne.
edit remains; and we must lament it the more now, 1 cessity of resuming the consideration of the Finances
of every day'iv protraction of his disorder gives us ; of Ireland, by which means, I trust, all difficulties on
addltional reason to despair of his ultimate recovery ; i that score may be speedily removed. I have
but if if so humble en individual as myself dere offer ; passed too long on the patience of the House : there
f 0 4SCOilitiOn to the woonded feelings of the Hoene iis but one more observation I am anxious to make
upee so melaucholy a subject, I would refer i before I sit down, touChingehe nature of the Address
them to a grateful remeruhrance of those' virtues ;I am about to propose. It is so formed as I !theta
and that attachment to the Censtitution, whieh i hope to prevent any objectiun therefore, I trust, it
hjs Majesty so eminently possessed, and ono;eihic'n I I will meet:with the unanimous aCloption of the House.
tteo sere, the House will agree with me, is
less conspicuous in the conduct cf his Roy al Reim- t deity in times like these, when we are engaged in a
sentative. The time now draws near whee thole ra. I contest, not for ambition, not for power, bat for in-
erictions which the Legislature placed on the power.' dependence. As a nation, our existence,—as a free 1
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ofthe Regent are about to expire, and whatever people, we have an enemy to contend with whose re- I
might have been my opinion on that subject, how- sources are great, and would sacrifice every object in
ever I differed from my Right lion. Friend, (Mr. I the world to attain the destruction of Great Britain.
Perceval) upon the restricting clauses in the Regency ! Among ourselves, partial inconveniences and indivi.
Bill, I have
had!st satisfaction in thinleing, that the ' dual bankruptcies must be felt, they are the conse-
pountry have an opportunity Of seeing that his ; quences of along end expensive, and a necessary war,
Royal Highness, although placed in the most difficult : but " Justrun helium qualm., noeessari.im, et pus
"Petition, never for a moment lostsight of the advan- ; gram quibus, nullu nisi in urrnis relinquitur spes."
&egos of Abe ionatry ;never had but one Object in i Mr. VISE seconded tho motiop.---Ho et:premed
stew—the happiness and welfare of his people.—ln i his entire concurrence in the Address no* proposed i 1
piling the attention of the House to the situation of and, after the very able speech with which it was in-
pyy affairs in the Peninsula, there is no man, of '
wastroduced by the Noble Lord, he was sensible that it,
whatever party, can withhold his praise and admire- ; perfectly unnecessary for him to detain the Howie
Lion at the persevering bravery of our army in Por- , on the present occasion.
tupl ; neither can any man at this time of day deny 1 The Amendment was then read from the Chair,
eh,ose praises so due to the merits of our illustrious . and the original question was put, upon which a dill.
countryman, Lord Wellington, who has proved ; sion was called for.
ito Europa and to the world that the ambitious views I Mr. WIHTBREA 9 said, that since it seemed to I!
of Bonaparte may be checked, and that the hide- !be the intention of the Honourable Baronet to press
pendence of a brave nation is still tolbe prese rvod i a division of the House, he thought it necessary to '
by'llritih example and British valour ; but let me ; express his opinion upon the question. Although
esot he
forget the conduct of the Portuguese army many things contained in the Address proposed by
thee:selves, or4anized and disciplined as they have ; the lion. Baronet were true, and although he traced
been ley another of my gellant countrymen, they I well the past and present situation of the country,
have proved themselves worthy of that care and those ; still there were many points which did not meet
exertions which Marshal l3eresford has bestowed up- ' concurrence, and which he did not think fit topics;
pn them. 'Nor here let me altogether pass over in ! bates introduced into the subject of the present
sileece the late gallant athievement under the cone. ; . He conceived that it was not right to reflect
.4010 of that distinguished Otficer, General Hill, : upon the conduct of individuals, inspecting which
*hose skill and beavery has added new lustre to the . no decision could be ROW formed.--(flear, hear rj ;
ehry andhohour of his Majesty's arms. in turning ' Under these circumstances he would not vote for the
to the rest of the Peninsula, and considering the si. • Address, and, as he differed from the sentiments con-
tuation of Seein, we certainly have to lament that tamed in the Amendment, be would also give his lee-
he; etrugglee for freedom and independence have not gadve to that.
hem es seceessful us the efforts of Portugal; but it . 'fhe AITORNEY GENERAL stated, that he
Wa greet gratification to think that her ardour is . did net hear that part of the speech of the Hon. Ba- I,
not damped, and that in Catalonia, and 'other pre- : vette! which he since understood had advanced as an I
vinves, there still exists the most decided animosity ! assertion, " That a Learned Jadge was so eager to i
to their French eppeesors. But, Sir, it must be so; convict an accused person, that he anticipated his '
for the Fredch have kindled a flame in Spain, which guilt to the Jury, before evidence was adduced in
they weer can extinguish ; they have raised a spirit 1 his favour." Ile believed the lion. Baronet alluded
up agnind themselves, which they never can subdue; ' to the conduct of Lord Elletiborough upon the trial
and whatever may lee to opileoe of the Hon. Gan. or Mr. White. In reply to this, he would take up-
ttemen with regard to the policy of the Spanisheseuse, on himself to my, that the obseritatieWs of deo nen.
yleateter may be the general sentiment on the sub- Baronet on that head were wholly unfounded. No
ject, it always must he a protid sensation to the hearts 1 one was heard more patiently than Mr. White, all
of the British people, that Spain, goaded by insults, ! the arguments which could be urged against the te.
. assailed by treachery, end almost overcome by power, ; gelity of the proof, were urged and heard over and
fouled in the }erns of the British nation, a chain- ; over again. lie was convinced
hair in the course of
_ pieta for her freedom, an avenger for her inju. I the trial nothing fell from Noble Lord whiehe
:ic, and an advocate forcause.--edt is 1 could warrant sueh an assertion, he was not however
true, her armies have been repolsed, and may again I aware to what part of his conduct the Hon. Baronet
he overcome ley the better disciplined troops of I alluded. •
France; but I trust there uever may be fonncl in this Sir FRANCIS.BURDETT, in explination, staled,.
eerytoy man Who may be able to persuade the that when Mr. White offered to produce evidence, the
grltist Datum that the Spanish people, framed in the Judge asked him whether it would not be better to ,
same mould, and sprung from the sante stock es the reserve suat evidence till another opportunity
heroes of
Saragoesa end Gerona can he traitors to The A'fTOit,NEY-GENERAL said, that it was
that veered cause in which they have so gloriously menifest-from fhe explanation of the lion. Baronet,
embarked: Bat wet should recollect it is not merely that the evidence offered was not to acquittal, but in•
• the eanse of Spin and Portugal we are contending mitigation of punishment, it was therefore better that
in the Peninsula, hitt the cause nf Eaglend too.-e- it should be reserved.
This is not a war merely for the protection of the Sir FRANCIS BURDETT stated, that the obser.
freedom of the Portugeese, but it ie also a war for ration came before the Noble Lord knew what the
the preservation of the liberties of Englishmen. It nature of the evidence was.
was the opinion of our most enlightened Statesmen, Mr. PONSON BY observed, that he felt himself I
that the battles of itegland should be fought in a in the same situation as his lion. Friend (Mr. White
ptikni land, cot will you ever know the policy of bread): be could neither rote for the original Ad.
that sentimeet, till you have felt the horrors of a dress nor the Amendmeut; but should think it Ida'
mutest at home. In Ireland, Sirt unfortunately duty to rote against both. He wou)d state, in very
Ve have felt ot, we judge by experience, and our few words, his objections to the Amendment ; but
opinion must be positive on the subject. The next as to the original Address, he would be silent, be.
eircumstancp which claims the attendee of the cause he did not think the matter of it proper to be
Nouse in with regard tp the late gallaot achieve- discussed at this particelar moment. It travelled
meet to Ind* I- asp We the House will give wide of the topics in the speech delivered In the name
peery praise to the Goiesetier - Getterai (Lord of flits Wince Regent ; and the Amendment, which em.
Mete) fel baring so ably plahno.4 thitt expee 440 those topics, was what be felt himself obliged