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•rn by law, in inspecting the ooaditioa of the
se-en in the gaol.
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW arid a few words la prate,
ti 'conduct of the Judges.
Mr. SYKES explained.
• Alt. IMCKSAISON, manner• in which
the visiting Magistrates' had performed their duty.
The Petition *iv/Aired to be printed.
• Marerge-froin tie Lartheoltemed that their Lor.
ships bad agreed to **Navy Fire Goals: Bill without
amendment. • • •
• • enteariTeox or roams.
Mr. G. BENNET presented a Petition from James
Fermatas, of Newman-street. Oxford-street. stereotyper
and printer, compleimiag that neither theConanissioners
far inquiring Into thsepeausof preemie, forgery. nor
the Bank Directors; Wilishr. investigate a plan which be
had submitted totheil. for obtaining that object, not-
withstanding that be • had made repeated applications
to them for that purpose. The Hon. Member consider-
ed•thatise why means to be pursued for the dreadful
cadent tif mime and convictions which bad taken place
of•laiirfigirs. was to reader the imitation of motes as
difileult as possible. Ho did not mean to give the pre-
blame to one plan of another, but he sou quite sure of
all the notes ltehad seen those sow in use by the Bank
presented the greatest facilities of imitation. He un-
derstood that the Bank Directors having *send the plan
• they had chews to fail, bad abandoned the idea of alter•
ing the notes. .
Mr. MANNINO said that this was mot the first time
the petitioner bad applied to the house. A similar pa
titioat" the preseittstood upon tkejmusalsof the house,
which the Hon. Member for Tana°, prostrated last year.
The stateesest that the Commissieeers and the Nese-
tors had refused to investigate his plan, was false. It
had been fully eaamiaed Itt different periods, and found
to be inadequate to the desired purpose. The Honour.
able Member stated his belief that the Bank Directors
had so lineation of earleavonring to prevent the me-
nthol*s of the crime of forgery. Bus if he wouM attend
to what the Directors had date, he thought be would
come to a very different (*Delimits& After a laborious
inveidgatiou of the various plans reposed to the Corn-
misdate's, they selected one which they sent to the
Bask Dinars, end it was at firstadepted by them. It
was diersrards famed to fail. and It wee stated that the
Director, them abandoned the attempt; hat that was sot
.theaese. TheY were still anxious to discover a plan
whielsweald glee mirky to all parties. •If the present
notes were easy of Imitatien, it was some' secant' that
it was also easy to detect forgeries upon them. He bad
she sitlefatilea to inform the -Hon. Member and the
hease.tbat sines the month of May last the total num-
ber of preseestious for forgeries spare notes of U. and
upward. was onlys 15. At the present time, in the me-
oropollithey bad oily one person ander prosecution, and
in the kingdom at large only silt. This. aatLdurfaet.,
that the Bank hid withdraws ite—amoll-mitte from sir-
mistime. be thitagitt. were the beet answers which could
be given to the petition.
Mr. MUMltesid, that the argument of his Honour-
able frieudytheillember for Shrewsbury, had been mis-
takes by the Nam. Member. He was happy. Romer,
to bow that the Batik had not gilts up the subject.—
While se Wets he wished to ask the -Noble Marques
iklesiOns Whether our Ambassador to the United States
ilmil misapplied to every beaker intbe Dahlia en the rib-
jewt-of them soave. if so, he presumed there would be
ramellem *bay before tie house the correspondence
Ind Inlata plate. . • • -
• The Maelpates OLONDONDIARY mid he was mot
• atm that Gars mid be any objection to podium the
vOrttifeerral. lweee. The result sl it had bees se far thought
fiemelialble. that a Gentleman belmtgiag to one of the
trambitar.limes bad been micouraged to come to this
to ariameneicate with the Bank a England.
6.111138 EL said that as so math complaint had bola
mere of the distress caused by the resusiption of sub
-paymeats, he trailed the het woisid.aet be overlooked,
that promotions for forgery bad diminished.
• The Willow was ordered to be printed:
Lord ESSINGTON presented a imdtlea from the
Clergy, Gentry. sad Freeholders of Newton-Bootie!, De-
veseldrooomplaining of agricultural distress, and cos-
eluding with a prayer for reform.
Mr. COKE moved for a return of the quantity of
wool imported into Great Britain, from all parts id the
world, from the sth January. 1921, to the sth January,
1922 ; and also a return of the quaatity of woollen ma-
rofactures. butter, cheese, tallow. anti bides, exported
trout England to all parts of the world, fur the same
period.—Ordered.
JOINT POSTSIMITTRII•OZNIRAL.
Mr. CALURAFT said be was about to move for an
. account connected with a noble person of eminence in
the country; he felt it necessary to disclaim any inten-
tion of introducing the name of that noble person invi-
diously. The Noble Lord to whom he alluded was Lord
Clancarty; and be understood that his Lordship had
held the situation of joint postmaster-general, for a pe-
riod of two years, during the greater part of which time
tie was abroad, and engaged in transactions in which it
was but fair to state that lie acquitted himself with great
credit to himself and great advantage to the counter.—
lie then moved for en account of the number of trays,
thiring which Lord Clancarty attended the Post-office to
discharge the duties of Postmaster-general, together with
the dates of his appointment and resignation.
The blarquess of LONDONDERRY was sure that
the lion. Gentleman himself would admit that it was
usual, in moving fur an account like this, to state some
grounds why it was called for. Notwithstanding the
lion. Member's disavowal of any thing invidious its this
elution, it did.pppear to him that the motion did convey
an insinuation that the Noble person had not attended
to the discharge of his duty. He begged to state that
the very attendance of this officer at the Post-office was
no criterion of his having neglected his duty, for he be-
lieved the nature of the office permitted that be might
perform it at a distance. .The House would bear in mind
tau, tluit at a time of great emergency,' during the pro-
gress of tile' Allied Army, he was called upon at a notice
of about lb hours. to attend the King of the. Nether,
hinds; and as he hail enjoyed the confidence of that
Court he was retained there ; and findiog that he was
• not to retorts to this cosintry, lie resigned the situation
of Joint Post-tnaster. lie saw no reason for a charge
against Lord Clancarty that Ise did not attend the Post-
' offict,,beeause'itill be. might be in the discharge of the
duties of the office. though absent. As well might the
Hon. Gentleman complain of now-attendance of the Mas-
ter:9f the Grail:ince, or any other office, the duties of
• which ridulittetf el being performed without personal at-
- temlance. .He believed that the Duke of Wellington
held the situation of Chief Secretary of Ireland whilst be
commanded a regintret at Copenhagen. Ile hoped that
the House therefore would nut lead itself to the lid*-
. .
Gat oof a reproach on the character of the Noble
dual in question; and that as there was no grostiiil
stated for the introduction of the account, lie hoped the
lion. Gentleman would not press it.
Mr. CALCIUFT disavowed any intention to thrdw
reproach on'the Earl of Clancarty. 'llut'lle understood
the Noble Marquess to admit that one Postonaiter might
be absent from the country without any detriment to-the
Int,iness of the office. bins then, the secret rune out;
that an officer, who, a night ago, was declared to he an
efficient public officer, was, in point of fact, out of the
country tor OW better part of two years, and ttiat with-
oat any injury to the public service. So that when this.
11,:eStjUn Caine to be debated again, the House ivould 're-
st.euilier that for two years au efficient 'Join! Poct-master
as ashould be sorry toi be eoilvd;.rett as
tcsling the least improper ritlection on'Lotd t .a:Warty.

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ieditsidual wee enema cis.
.barge the duties of an Ake .. held at omit.
and the astute, of which permitted that they mig be
discharged at a distance.
Mr. CALCRAVT said be was aware that the Noble
Lord bad been absent open the duties of the ter?
of State, and not es these of the Postmaster- Oeuvre.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said he could
not be supposed to carry the business of his office with
him.
• Mr.CALCRAFT observed that if the business at home
preponderated be should stay at home.
Lord NORMANBY said that if the Noble Marpiess
was of opinion that the duties of the °See of Joist Post-
master might be performed at a distance. lie abstaised
from giving the House the benefit of so. important an,
explanation last night. Whilst Ids legs Ise moilliaif
forbear to add, that looking en the division of last eight,
and considering the majority either as to quantity or
quality. he thought the decision was not a defeat bet a
-protracted trial; and it enabled him to look with ens&
deuce to the ultimate result of anyfuture modem which
might be made on the same subject. •
The motion was negatived wittiest *divides.
SPATZ OP The roaitc ACCOUnTe.
Mr.3IABERLY said, that in *triaging forward the
motion with which be should conclude his entommit
that evening, be felt it necessary to sat. that one Wort
occasion he bad been indaeed to witharaw a node* for
Accounts, in consequence of a promise giv, by. the
other side that the accounts would Imprinted. lb gave
in a paper of the *clients be Oohed to hems rotors"
ed, and be bad now to complain that the papetu
were not returned t sad further. that the Hen. Wein&
tees sae the other aide had the advantage 'of the pe,
Ho was, therefore, in a %Peados verydiffereetfromtfest
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ois which lie shoold be placed had be in hip, heads the
Accounts which were promised to be foreldied.
that if be erred in the course of his statement. the
would not impute it to a wish to misrepresent or • so,.
,the Public Accounts. The Imam was aware that "
was an Act in force which required that the
'Accounts for oath year should belaid on.the table of the.
house before the 2.lth of March in each yeir. Bet thew
was in this Act no provision compelling the prodectioti
of a balance-sheet, to which the actual state of the.isi-
come and expecditure would appear. iltit there was a
clause in the Audit Account which required that dada
a sheet should be printed with the Accession for On
year. But as the Public Accounts for this year were
not on the table, he slisiuld advert to another paper laid
es the table by the Noble Marquess, purporting to be a
statement of the net public income and expenditure for
the year ended Jas. 5, 1821. It would she his object.
then, to show that his balance-sheet of that year as
compared with the Public Accounts, was.bi error. year.
Lest part of die account. was an &monist of the net
lie Income from ordinary and extraordisery seeress for
the United Riagdom of Brent Britain end Ireland for
the. year ended bth January DM; and' pieta he would
compare It with an account, porporting to lin an account
of the net income of the country for .the fame period.
He mead take the feat head of tnedoinn, a mama
of net income from Customs, appeared by
Pub! c Aeseeats as be 9611.461
lu the acconet of the NobleMsrqsess .ll,nll7.ffilt
Being a &Berme of
Bat ant oily Met these two at:Coots dike from them-
,eolves ooder tide head. but each differed frees a MIMI,
WOW the abstract acceent. and all almost=
.fourth which was laid on the table by the Ch of
the Exchequer. Then there were four acoduirs• for-•
porting toles statements of Public Acoonets, awkeeelk
varying from the other. In the article of Exeter. die
Pn6tie Accounts and the account of the Noble Mamie*
were the same. bet the differed inseam respect from,
the abstract account. There was the same &Krems's*
seder the head of Stamps, and both differiag from.tho
abstract Account. In the Post 016ce there was a mirk-.
Von between the Noble Marquesi'dAcconnt. alai the rib-
be one. of /WO/. ,• and those again differed from the
'abstract and the Account of the Chancellor of the
Bt-
chequer. Under the bead of taxes, there appeared a
difference between the Noble Marquess and the Public
Account to the amount • f 24,000!. In the article of
Hackney Coaches a difference of 1,1671. and that of
Hawkers 3,000/. He would not say that all' these dig
ferenees might not be reconciled upon examination, but
the Public Accounts should be of that simple, intelligi-
ble nature, as net to require any explanation. There
was an item of seizures • and bees amounting to 6,543/.
in the Account of the Noble Marquess,.which did not ap-
pear at all In the Public Accounts. There were several
other items of difference, such as that of the a of
the Property Tax to the amount of 240001.; that of the
impress repaid 14,7061. • a small differeuee on contracts-
for the redemption of und Tax; a difference of 36.0001.
as money repaid in Ireland on account of advances from
the Consolidated Fond; and lastly, there was an item Of
260,000/. the proceeds of old stores which did not ap-
pear In the l'ublic Accounts. Now he was aware
that the absence of this item in the Public Ac-
counts. could be explained by the statement
that the public had the advantage of .it in the
Navy Estimates. But besides the absurdity of taking
the proceeds of Old Stores as an item in the Ways and
Means, he objected to the course on account of its ob-
scurity. The item of Unclaimed Dividends which ap-
peared in the Public Accounts were nut included in the
Account of the Noble Marquess. The total amount of
the net income. as stated in the Account of the Noble
hlarqnessovas 54,542.9581.4ifferiag front the total of the
Public Account by 240,6961. and fromAlortruni et the
Chancellor of the Exchequer's Account by 34,9331.—
There was another variation intim item of E.
Income over Expenditure. The Chancellor of the Ex.
chequer's Account stated the surplus to be 1,861,0001-
'I he Account of the Noble Marquesi shted the item to
be 1,447,:eng. He now ratite to the Expentlitnre side of
the Account of the Papers profit:red by the Noble Lord,
compared with the accounts in the other papers. In the
item interest of the National Debt there was a variance
of 31,9E41., and in that of the Sinking Fund 10,5952.—
There was, he thought, always mule dexterity shown in
keeping front the view of the /loose as tnnch.as possible
the stun pail for interest on Exchequer Bills; hut he
finned the valiance tinder this head to be 166,107/. it
might, perhaps, be contended that a part of this would
he accounted for on a reference to otiieepapers respect-
ing the Consolidated Fund ; bat this he submitted had
nothing to flu with the *Consolidated Fund; upon which
the Chancrllor.uf the Excbequor had turned his back
ever since it hail fallen into arrear between eight and
nine millions. In the item allowances to the Royal Pa
mile there was a difference of 32,3201.; and in that of
()dicers of the Courts Of Astice 3,156!. In the item cc.
dating to the Mint the difference was 9601. and in the•
relating to Bounties 1071. ; and Ite-fonnd in the Noble
Lord's acenuorno mention whatever of the permanent
charge respeiting Ireland. 'rho difference lir the Anne
_term' I:t . he thought, very extraordinary r o
hoes",
in that deliartriftltit lie hail expected unsnarl accuracy;
the alifferetice ttlas•i4,9oo/. in • the NMI nem there
was a llia;:rilierof t61.1,0104i hutthis, he was &Wert,

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undirstaroti the _ m way.
confused bicoald aot indent:sad them; but there they
were, apd the law Might gaiety themselves. There
ought not, be contended, to be the variessee of a single
freedom in the public accosatet nod be trusted that the
detail into which be had one, had established a groan 4
'futile motion he should -have the tumour to submit.--
There were other variances in he accounts respecting
the Civil Government of Scotland, and the Militia De-
serters' Warruts; and yet arm the whole, the total
upon all the accounts were eery near each other, the ut-
most difference being 241,0001. Even for this difference
Ile was at si loss to account t he professed his ignorance
ea the subject, and would feel thankful on being inform-
manlie wild however stole, for the inrmatis of
y Hee. Members who were not hmiliafre witho tbe
sohjoet, that they must not deceive themselves by the
sound et H Balsam in the Exchequee." They were sot
to suppose that It was a sum of money is boa available
for the public service. It was an appropriated balance.
He sbeald eat take ap the time of the house at preesut
by any obeineations an the Sinking Fund. Upon that
subject he would take a more favourable opportunity for
delsrethig his sentiments; but, unless satisfactory infest-
modem were give with respect to what be had already
brought before the bosse.kesbould feel hitaselfwarrast-
akin pressing his motion. He did not impale to the
Public ell any. wilfa! deception. His object WAS
that ugh errors as be bad shown Auld be avoided for
the faun; but eves if he were mistaken in eallieg
them errors, be trusted a mode *veld be adopted for
(endwise the public accounts, se that thervoight be
slmplitialia future. The Hon. Member coarbided by
..buff, " Tbat a Select Committee be applaud to sim-
plify the arreocingef public accounts."
Mr. LUSHINOTON said that the Accounts alluded
to ley the Hoe. Member in the outset of his speech, would
net bare bees refused could they have been producd
without material iscouvenience ; but they, were called
for at so saussosaidea time, that the making of them op
woad hive materially interfered with pqblic business.
With respect to the Accounts, upon • comparison of
which the Hon. Member had arrived at all less emmlne
alone, hr had only to obvert', that the Accounts them-
' elem. did.not purport to be the same. One was the Fi-
nance Account, and the other was an account of the
sums available for the piddle service. This olwervation
ran over dm twhisfe of die Hon. ,Member's calculations,
bet it particlerly eeplied to the Customs, upon which a
duty of four pod a half per coot.' reckoned in one sc-
oreckoned aid not reckoin the other, ceestitated the
whole woe* of the difference. Is the Poore/see item
e▪ t appeared that • payment made into the Exchequer had
bees taken ereilit for t -stud this certainly ought. not to
have been dose. The next variance was to be aceriestent
for ie the same way. He thought it better to state the
fact fairly, lathe Hon. Member bad declared that his
°sly wish was to hive the errors exit:died. In the item
respecting the Unclaimed Dividends there was no Of'
(evened apd lethal respecting Old Stores, the fact was
that the amount was dAucted from the Navy Estimates,
This woeld be found on • reference to the papers pro-1
&medlar his Noble Friend. All the &merest differences
were essiViriessailed. by reenering to tile fact that the
two sweat, were not leteedei to belhe same. With
regard to the expenditure shiest the acceent, the apes-
rest, dllfereaces might he very eerily reconciled 1.1'11'4
was leatUerted that the secsea were made up to differ-,
eat des*. He by no aieette contended that this mode
with'
cull wilts impreeed.*ledeef, he weld not do eo
Pv•Pvls• his Right Friend, (the Ckupiellor of
the RWmgeer.) bad expressed his Wooden to moiefor
a Comaltue with a view to remedy the defect. It wield
be in the mullet-ties of the house that the preens form
of die public ',cossets was adopted in obedience to an
Act passed kr deeper left the recommendation of
the Finance Committee. There bad he apprehended
been no objection whatever to the 'tent of his Right
Hon. Friend, and the debtor aid creditor account would
be found generally correct. The instances wherein then
were any differeeces could be easily accounted for. He
had no doubt that a leasmittee might be usefully em-
ployed on the subject; and fur that purpose he should
move u an Amendment the appointment of a Commit-
tee to ascertain and state the'eause of the difference in
the accounts. In that Committee austere desirable plan
might be suggested and diScussed. It might forward the
object if the Committee were instructed to ascertain in
what respect the expenditure charged differed from the
net expenditure. He was confident that the strictest in-
email/igloo would fully confirm his statement. The lion.
Member concluded by moving an Amendment accord-
ingly.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT opposed the Amendment.-
-The necounts he thought should be kept in a way which
would render explanation unnecessary, and so that any
person of common intelligence might understand then'.
A nterrantile establishment would consider itself dis-
graced by the keeping of its accounts in such a manner
that a clerk should be required to explain apparent
errors. The lion. Member had admitted that there
were errors. The present artificial mode of keeping the
accounts rendered these very complicated. Ile thought
public accounts should he kept so clearly as to leave no
room even for suspicion. It appeared from the expla-
nation of the lion. Member that, in one instance a rum
of money had not been paid into the Exchequer as it
ought to have been by law. He (Sir John) would wish
to he informed who it was that dared to violate the law.
It was well known that the Act ordering the payments
into the Exchequer bad been passed to guard against
the misapplication of public money in its passage to the
Exchequer. He thought the object of the Committee
should be general, and would therefore vote fur the ori-
ginal
motion.
Mr. MABERLY, jun. spoke a few words against the
Amendment, whirls he considered as purposing merely a
retrospective operation.
Mr. RICARDO supported the original motion. The
object of the Committee in his opinion was to obtain
proper accounts rather than reconcile differences.
Mr. HUME said, that as it must be the wish of :ill to
prevent mistakes in future, he trusted both the motions
would be withdrawn, in order to the formation of a
general and extended Committee.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that as it had beet" conceded, that the differences its the
accounts were reconciled, be hail no objection to the
whole question being postponed, to afford au opportn-
nity for the suggestion of A better plan. He would him-
self woe a day fur bringing the subject before the

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Mr. CALCRAFT considered that his Hon. Friend
had'clearly established the case upon Which he set out.
He thought it scarcely worth while to go into a Com-
mittee for the were purpose of elneitlating mistakes.
After a few words front tke CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
CIitQUILH, 10 explanation,
Mr. MABEIt Li' said that as his object was solely
to produce.% remedy for the inconvenience, he should
(vol .p:e 'aura in withdrawing his motion.
• Rath .the motion% were then withdrawn. and
The CIIANCHLIAMt of the EXCH.EQCF:R immedi-

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Mr. CRBETBY begets by observing, with refersece
to the motion of which heNad given notice relative to
the Beard ofConteoL that hi Lad frequently made ob-
servations in that hose* us he tie peopriety of nveljag
some alterations is tlmitemillow ofithat Board. He
had dose this without ssedess. eiseirlebstanding that
some late Ames had 041,4 a (seimeable opportunity
for patting his plea PP esecation. The Hun. Beetle-
man then proceeded to Jelin the different chances that
had takes place is tile Board lime its.origin. They all
knew the diffetesee ef epistle's relative to the formation
of the Board, between Mr. Vox sad Sir. Pitt. It was in
the year 17t14,in conseq•enat of' aa agreesurat betwixt
the Bast India Psi Cievenmeut, chest ma.
Pitt formed the plan of Board of Control le is-
trodmisg time 10/111411.111 for its istabliebeseat to that
house, he declared. that it woo to be iscempanied with
DO salaries, no oMres. sod No patronage, at the same
time that h. himself yolousteeted to become the President
MM, without misty. He kept hie word, and fee aim
poem eiontiosed to hold She sites/Pa wittiest salary.
Dot lo P/11:1 the Bill fell We. the bonds of Lard MA-
Mlle, Anti doss was offswesd that dosage which
had ever sines ',misted ivies this mosaic,
miteagument, of . the affairs of India. By the .rctseliNi which
he then olitained to be putted, salaries were' appended
to the aitaatfoa sit tarsi Constniseleeers. No of
Whom Lord Ideirtille, as Preoldest, took VIM. a-Peer to
Isigioelfs IllstiSkro JAW Wit to the ether two. As-
/Aber change wap shortly otter made, by shish' that
ffetifirNttnehocoeallor.lpedrese7try:lfriaailan;lxt wee hyghsd uiintanserelsaeirepi4:;;:esivieriee:oistoommimiessipessiPilirp:::wenbistaserlpa:7l:ll;.ll:lllneeol4iiimenereabetthrte:helshaiiers,,the ,
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slow Pseeived *ilia la lased meal Item
doe Wiest ys trod this he thought was a pretty
Mieenble=eo of sa estalalkikesent which was to be
'without sitiamileffocesesad without patimage..
--(Hear, iseer.)in.l4l3 a Rely agereartot was watered
'irate with eke ltmst ladle Compalays only toe remake
the pretedieg one. by which the total ems for the Wt.
port of tte Board if tkoetrend witeeeised to 411.00111. to
this new embitterment. it was thee, no farther silowaset
was made so Has Consmisdeners; bet a emir et sorra,-
motion was introduiced; is lovvrei of the Secretory tad
some ethers attached to the Booed. Tisaastken, lobed
demo how this, Beard bad mew. Icy **Will it
deseeuded iota the siinatio• *fa revile, minima ei a
falsifylneerest is tkat Hostorins( e. bear.)—
Ks hoes it rapid be Pia HMS. SIP. Beard atolialtd.t4
sea perms**, and that was Meet his deep sena ewe's*
side passengers, this 'them inside pleases Westmont
for the femily.—(Lawgisser4—lt was a real dimwit
Board
; sad what, he asked, Wee en entitle the lase •
gers of ladle Affairs to butt a Board te* themselves?
No interlopers. 'no intruders, a estmplete family party,
with embpdp het themselves, to do as they pkased.
—(leaughter.)—au gaieties was. was it a Boned cr
sot? tioppiseiog soy oat were to wish to stile dm
mystic Board sei work—settliag the "indite of a Melo-
ratta war, or discussing maw point of ladies pew kr
instance, mould it be seen? AMA what emil) he mortis-
*tractive than to have an opportunity of observing the
way in which they matted shire kwetty Feist of giciaoks
ens ing vote.—(A langh.)-11 was rumoured that the
Rijrht Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Gaming) was to
be sent to India. Noma what weald any one give menthe
instructions of t his Board to ibis indiyideal.—(Langister.)
He would not vesture to express an opinies as to whet
the booksellers would give for such a thing—fur stem s•
rich article as these Commissioners telling the Hight
Hon. lientlesnan bow he was to conduct wood( its his
sits Ation—wkst to say to such a Pri ace and owls another.
I —(l,anghter.)—He knew the &saner to all this would
be, that there was no Board; and be olsoall be loath in-
clined to coincide in the opioion of those who-shoed
so say. He would tell the bons, why he felt so &opined.
It happened that be had himself Mora SeCreirl,,.(tlre
upon a time, to this Board.—(Cheers from the Ministe
rial lienches.)—lie did not know what to make of that
shout of the Ikon. Gentlemen opposite ; but he meddler
that daring the thirteen snoods, he was there, there iro
no Board at all that 1.• ever saw. And as I.e was Seem
tary to it, the house might tee disposed to rancor with
him in opinion that it wasimore than probable be amid
have knbwn of i•. if such a thing hat existed.—(llear.
and laughter.)—rlis Right Hon. Vrieod (31r. Tone!)
sat in one room, himself is another, and the tientl-om
Commissioners in a third:T-(l4*r, bear.)—He was net
content, however, without his own means of ol•serration
over a period of thirteen months on this itopurtast
point, so be asked a person in the office, heilier is the
memory of man such a thing as a Board lied ever ex.
iated. The Gentleman to whom lie had addretsed him-
self, of whom be could not say too much, either
for his industry or Ids talcum in his situatiou,
answered him with great simplicity, that to th- hot 01
his knowledge there never had.—(Hear, heAr sod A
laugh.) lie meat also state, that during all the time he
was there, there was not business enough for the mime-
tion.—(flear, hear, from Sir. Conrtenar.) ile ass' ls.l
to see the lion. (lentleman exert hinsseli ; l'r as lie D"
'a higher salary than he had, lie ought to do omething
more for it.—(A laugh.) The object of .hr inotiol.
was, that the house should name a Committee to sr
what what he represented on this subject oat •
Noble Ilartpar4s opp•witrinight appoint it if e 1.111:7-
he might be one of time Committee—the lUcht ns!!!'
C
Gentleman (Alt. Canninr) another. and tires
tied st!te
that pleased, and he *ed them to report otherwte
than lie had stated. If it turned out that vas
then be would ask why were the persons co r:
guard allots ed to sit in that h0n.... Ile ?call).
gas
shocked to make any rierence to the C sel...i°fli
so 1011 C as th-re were S'ittutes he might .he prtutittes •
refer to them. Be the tilt of A tine, all p'. soils hold's,:
pliers to but created after the passing of that Act, lie!e
prohibited from haring seats in oh, noose; Ye 111;
the teeth of the .het there were Clow offsets of 11.1.
Board iiere-.-4 Presi.let.t, two Comosissieuets. and
1r0t27
Cretan'. There was n.. necessity for these lienti
being in this house: They 'lad no dyer to dig:lore
here.—(llrst.) Again, tiie Lith of fir:irge 11. trn
.
unite to permit hat one Secretory of State so sit ben.
but these officers were useful. and therefor • the WIT;
hail not insisted on the Arts Whig put in fare,,-
these Arts bad any force, these tiettletueu %hour .7,
exclude.' this house. FoNnerly it was st.n.u: to atlas
down an Indian Budget to this Asunsel theic thersnim:
possibly a pretence tor the *Cornct, of the Co..e
s ones here.—(llear, hear.) 11Pcons that time to
.P;
sent there b.sul toren no Isola Kinkel, or is.Bolo_
ascot of the affairs of that cowitry. c s
perhaps might be re piir .11. they
would be equal to
the duties—to speak of four as, u-ressary.
Pi'
quite preposterous. Another •eleuse was made.

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