The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-02-18 00:00:00

-toe applied. H. strongly urged his Hon. and Learned
FriendlAbirellso. not only to withdraw his motion,
bat lainsediaitily to follow ttp_thateigpsbpittvillifer

tt Committie orrepury.---- -
Mr. WILLIAM SMITH expatiated tithe evils
et the present—system; and satet-thar hid
calved a stetter in teltiiit thee* etilistriliamply de-
tailed.
Mr. WARRE espressed his satisfacitios that'an
enquiry was about to be instituted into thesubject.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY bad always beets impressed'.
with the expediency of hieing the affishises in the
Northern Counties series, in the year, aid thanked
his Hon. and Learned Friend fot the motion which be
bad sabinitted to the Hoarse.
Mr. WYNN, although he felt that Mune Mauer*
was necessary, yet was glad that MS Hon. and !warn.
ad Friend was about to withdraw Nis motif", to
which he Geoid not have couseated, toosiderieg the
sear approach :of the s Spring Assisea, tad that no
lowan whit bad a snit would be isfliciendy atom of
the stow arraegeseent.
Mr. TAYLOR then withdrew his alt. end
gse notice that he would to-morrow for a
Committee of Enquiry on the subject. • • • '
Sr F. BURDETT presented a -POllll6l from
person called Jima Leach ; and another frills Reich.'
able, in the county of 'Ancestor. The Petition
stated, that James Luck had hue apprehended and
artist -frets the place 'where be resided to various
parts of the country : that when he had complained
of his treatment,• the person to whom he spoke had
64 d—sed•his Feed limbs," and told him if he would
not bear what he had, he should have en iron collar
round his neck. The Petition, after static` various
hardships which were said to have besm endured by
the Petitioners, concluded by praying for redteis for
tbeir grievances.-T-Read tied laid en the table.
Mr. BROUGHAM had to beg the attention of
11016!.10.1 Petition from another of those onfor.
tinsels even who had been the victims of proceedings
dlroOd by the Secretary of State, armed with the
powers,,. ion him by the despension of the Habeas
Coq* Act ; and be entreated that peootaten would
40 hi, the frieour to listen to the statements which
that retitioo contained, and they would be aware of
f*icrtance, and be disposed perbeps.to
iate 'it. The PetitiOn-was from one Benjamin Scholes, '
et AValtt'..fireid, in Yorkshire, where be Mid resided
July last. !Ie was a victualler and ale-house.
fiaeper by tvhich busineu it vie stated be bad sup-
ported himself and his family with comfort. In the
suonth of July, however, he
.had been apprehended
by a warrant from Lord SidmQuth, thrown into pri-
son, and 'notwithstanding the prison of Wakefield
was wail secured and well regulated, he bad been
conveyed to BO castle of Cambridge. There
be had been detkined till January, in whit* mouth
be hal beau set at liberty without any more Cause
'foe his liberation than bad been stated for his deteu.
tieno—Ellear, hettr!)—lst consequence of his sin.
pr. loeisosso s, he had been ruined, Nis tope and be+.
Isrokete op, and himself materially iojeret iii
his health. .fie (Mr. Brougham) had in his pos.
pestling a cettifitate from a respectable Member of
the Collegb'ef• 'Surgeons who had atteuded hist,
whichdeclaPed,` that the confinement which the Pe..
thinner tied endured had caused the illness en*,
which he bliti laboored. His health was broken, and
he was reined in eircumitances; and he had now
ro state to the 'loose the sole reason of those pro.
ceedhigs which he had been able to discover. A.cbarge
had been laid against him by two persons of the
names of Oliver and Bradley—Ether, Near I]-44r.
having been concerned in. Meetings held in ,hb bin
house for seditious purposes. The particular! • of
that transaction be should relate to the Souse.—
Scholes lint became acquainted with Olivir through
thiletroductioe et a person of the name of Mitehell,
who was travelling about Yorkshire, as others bad
donfiht• various parts of the country, protenditsg to
come from Societies in London, and making use of
the names Of the Honourable Baronet the Memberfor
Wouttainster, as well as that of his Noble Continue:
In the Course of their proceedings, Oliver, es the
Petition stated, yes very constants. in instigating
*holes to go farther ; rind, not to trouble the House
With ikon 'then one instance of his connect,
,be might
state that Meer said it was in vein to petition, peti-
tioning was of no Gni that they mast have recouree
to physical fnrce.— [Hearl hear !]-7-Scboles in con-
sequence bid some suspicions °bile mao, and his an•
ewer wee, that he threstenoid fli.lay an information
ogainst him before the Magistintes. Thee came
Oliver's plans, for he being • threatened isitit
imsore, lid wooer found himself in danger a R. !ti-
formation which could be supported by good eii4eao,
than, with his sassociates, he wrote circular:Mb*s
or) call a Meeting at the liaise of ttiOPetitiOner.—
Scholar *Mei 'that. soda e Meeting loia-vsoOettn-
held at his house. He thought that othireirconv.
eta nces might "brow mach light upon that fact;
lu-
deed. he believed that an Hoe. Friend of iris had
found means to obtain some Information *on that
point ; that he had discovered Oliver himself consplain.
ing to others of the slackness of Scholes,and of his r
fusing to allow Meetings to be held in his bronse.
Vicar !]—The Petitioner denied that he ever bad
been present at any such Meeting in his life. in-
deed, ha stated, that be never hatiny knoeriedge of
any, hut one, for promoting the cause of constitu-
tional Reform, which had ended In a Petitiel that bad
!wen presented and received by that House. En..
.tuiries had been made, and the melt of these had
been iu every Way favourable to the Petitioner's the.'
racier. He stated that, because he did not think it
sight to bring such charges rashly, especially when
they involved • considerations of such importance.—
'rho first reason that be had for believing Scholes
so be a person of good character nos, that
he bad at different. *periods filled olio, of con.
eiderable respectability. He had been emplOyed is
&pail...constable irrihentighboOoortuf Wakefield,
et e pitied of dlartirhentO, endlitincipilly by his SI-
Wises it deptity4institble, • ;knee ha. been. 'se;
well peeserved, that the provisions of- the Watch and
Ward Act, then in force, were almost directly was--
isd to be applied. In consequence of the vigilance
.shich he manifested, his services were received o ith

Asd
aolliatent to
hero
sersies libib they _„.,- ue entrust,
flitb ea kat, powers'. But what had been the
result? Thu only Instance whit!, we know of arty'
outrage having &deep frosi.the which
said to prevail, was that which occurred in Derby-,
sltire,which trerfellOwed by a Waller' HighTreasno,
and three individuals sainted the punishment
-thelaw. • No Gentlessian had shown this any otliarl
Cale of • treason had been found to eels,. ihuseisvi
,evident, therefore, that tilftrialers of Atm country had
been esaggerated beyond their .propel dlmelksiams;
'And that they might bare bass remossr),ked Goryro.
-meat taken a afferent course from that which they
load pursued. With relopect to the manner in which
,Miiitiaters bad exercised the powers given to them.*
Abe Act for suspending the Habeas Corpus, the very
fact of asking for a OM of indemnity was a.anagfts•
son that they bad abused the laws.--Cflear !1"-They
7641:Wide& the law in pll respettatitatt be was at a
• . . • ,
ns' to .now bow Geutlpmen we tbem-
ulves
inthe eyes of their.ronstitnentit, in whet man-
they could reconcit" it to !gait own.conscleoces
jlo grant an indemnity under such circumstances. It
was admitted on all heeds, that the Suspension of the
Corpus Act gate no new powers of.detaluing
or dismissing persons.-iflear, bawl from Sir S.
.

felts A COUltairitri=ll—.
These dilleag tinfoil, *mild meg&
Wl° -Iced 1eid...111, wt c m
eapjctabte persons,-.Mod item them- be um .inters.
ed, that be had fort pay yearafalalled Aerloilea
hippest] on him with the greatest propriety. $0,104
hold communications os she solljoct with the Noble
'Lord; lie Neither forirorks4tei who was suitors-
el well as the eeperable person-
age to wits rated ; and he *O4 reed eau'
or twoleeters which would Inform to what eiNel
the chewiei. of the Petitioner. [ ha Hoe. istelb
LearnigiGenslemao them read an extract from a I.
ter, whit)" ten pearly thus—t` .1 haveleken some:
pains to empire idto hip (Scholeee) Veer as t ,weed
it lest prepossessed with an unfavourable opinion or:
him. 1)0 lem now thoroughly canyinced, that Is&
has been most unfairly dealt with, and that be
had no more connexion with any illegal or.seditioue.
deeigni than Mr. Witberforce--Iffear, hear!)--,
or the most jedlicerit man in the kingdom; sod Ft
have do delibt that this WM most evidently appear, i'
if i fell 'and fair investigation can be bed of. his
case'l—The suspicions of the teen's .character,!
which appeared to have been 'Wedgwood, were the!
consequences of all such cases. The moment it wec
heard that a map had been apprehended on a charge
of High Treason, or of any thing seditious, he was in.
shindy suspected of being a very bad character.—
The Honourable Member (Mr. Wilberforce) would
tathat his name hod only been introdoced as the
striking person of that kind that was suggested
to the writer. The -Petitioner,. in one put of his
statement, related ti circemstince . which be should'
read to the liouse.—[The Honolitable and toadi-
ed Member then read, a part of the Petition,'
which prayed that the House would take the
meat he had made into consideration, and ,that they
would grant him such redress as they in their mercy
and clemency might think proper - and that they
would use such interest with the Secretary of State as
would cause him to return the papers which were
taken from him, and an old memorandum.book, the
property of a poor widow, which furnished the outy
evidence she bidet a debt that Ares dee to her of
171.] It was was singular, that after all be had en.
parienced—he would instance that as the most stens.
Ing proOt of his character—that after all he had es-
dared, be.asked but for the property which bad be.
longed to himself and others to be restored to Mau-.
Recalled for nothing to be done to those by whoa
be bad suffered ; lie invoked ne vengeance upon their
beads ; be demanded no jestice; but he trusted that
would not bit held as any @roosting for their turning
etleef ear to what was laid before them; he hoped
that they would no longer have evidence so repeafgd-',
.ly :proffered, without allowing those who weft urn
posed to possess it to adduce their proofs.
the Petition was then brought up, ready laid ess
OM table, and ordered to be printed.
Mi. F. DOUGLAS moved for au Acioint of all
fFees sod Am • Doles on Pardons passing the Great
leal.-4Yriered.
r •
PERSONS eON FIN Ell ON SUSPICION OF TREASON.
Lord FOLKESTONE rose to nil lbeethalleo of
:the House to a subject of the utmost importance, and
which claimed from them the most serious consider.
tion.- Inn the first place he should move, that the
Petitions of Francis Weed, Joseph Mitchell, Thomas
"Evens the elder, and the several other persons who
bad been Imprisoned under the Act for suspending.
the Habeas Corpus Act; and who bad petitioned the,
Pious, to investigate the treatment which they bad
• received, should be 'mitered as reed. • (This being
'dime, the Noble Lord proCeedid as follows.) When
the Elyse considered all the circumstances detailed,
in thole Petitions., he was persuaded that they would
think it their ditty to pease, before they were induced.
to entertain, as a waiter of course, a Bill of Indus-
oily. He had been led to introduce this subject to,
Abele notice at the earliest opportunity, because the.
Noble Lord (Castlereagh) had stated that a Bill of
Indemnity was to be brought forward, not foribt
grave and effigies discussion of the House, not as a,
measure that was to depend on its own merits, and,
to be rejected or approved-as the conduct of his Ma...
jesty's Ministers should warrant; but as a measure,
which the Ministers were entitled to demand of the,
House, as a matter of course, and which the
House, is, itclesislative capacity, could not refuse...-.
It appeared to him (Lord Folkestone) thud
a strange confusion prevailed in the minds pt
several persons with respect to that Bill. They
,seemed to think that it was really due to the Miul.
sters of the Crown, as the Noble Lord had stated,
without any previous investigation; but if he knew
any thing of the principles of our Constitution, he
would be bold to say, that it was the duty of the
House on this occasion not to take awe so olOF,hif
the blioletties of 'the Crown at °tribe Kbertlei of.*
People.-(Near!)—Before they suffered themselves
to abseil, countenance to a Bill of Indemnity, they
should see that the People had not been damnified:
they should first appoint a Committee to siamine the,
grievances which the Petitioners bad stated, and .to
ettertaie whether the Ministers bad not exceeded'
jar powers. Nothing could be more hostile to
the spirit of liberty, nothing more destructive of that
geperons plan of power which our forefathers had
4.tlrered down to us, than the doctrioe that a Bill
&labia nature should lie passed as a matter of calm,.
riss
ring the last hundred aid twenty yam, lb. Ss-
belts Colipoe Act bed been suspended line or tea
times; bat there was only one instance, the Noble
Ler& and his Colleagues could Out' only cite preen-
abet, et a Bill to indemnify Ministers. for the wee-
sites which Amy had pursued seder the Suspension.
It ens singular, too, and not the' least point tail;
:required attention, that almost the. eery same pe.rsone,
that apptied fur a Bill of ludereolty who aPpliedfer.
it now. They were acting, theretore, ne a Preeede4i
which they bed:tirade for tieutieleee; they wits
calling open the Nouse to 'emu Skeet keel the con.i
eegeences attigeirlage rinlationsit the law, ovally, ;
nib", "gated, ittiiaa'a &key 4dti r
suet' cotKaitleitteis Wort.:
seen might thini'd this matter, it.wits a euriales fact,
that the system now proposed to the House was of
vest modem date: be bad taken some pains to look

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Ronsills.l As to taking op pmsens in a different
form, atid executing warrants in a different mangier,
from the ordinary coarse of proceeding, they might
look in vain to the Suspension Act for. any sort of
justificetioti. The law had eppoint..d regular sad
stated forms by which persons sere to be oppre.
ended and .discharged ; theme teems were resell id
by the authorities of our law books, and by Acts if
r Parliament; but, in the premat intflaUCe, not one of
those forms had been pursued. lie would not dis.
pate the power of a Secretary of State to lois,
a warraot, but it was nodoubtedly an usurpation,
end the practice was not of ancient date. It was
only confirmed in the time of Iciug WiliVm, when
one of the Jsdges, as appeared by Sir Bartholome*
Shower's Reports, declared, that a Secretary of State
had power to administer ao oath, because be had
power to commit; bet Lord Camden had lad, that
if a Secretary of State cennotodminieter an oath, he
cannot commit. He (Lord Folkestone) would not
now dispute the power of a Secretary to issue a war-
rant ; bet some of the grottiest lawyers bad pro-
noanced their opinion,-that it was a complete usur-
pation, and how it had arisen nobody knew. It was,
in fact, a perfect anomaly; and it it is to eaist,
power should be giveu to • Secretary of Stale to
administer an oath; in order to destroy the anomaly.
With respect to forms, he certainty did not findeity.
statute, or any judicial decision, by *high a parti.
celar form was babe gone through by the Secrets, 'H
ri
of State; but the same forms. shoild be 'eaded. to;
on these occasions es were adopted its ordineey -cases-.
In all cases or felony, a. Just ice of the Peace Mew:
take the esimination its writing of the accuser and
witnesies oa oath, and to send it to tee_ proper
Court. It is not to be *opposed, then, Melt if this
necessity vista is Ulterior cases, it is out to be fel-
lowed in superior eases: if particelar farms are ft-
-guired in felonies, the sante precantiots should be
tykes towards those who are accused of the crime:
of treason. If 'a Jessica of the Peace commits 'for
treason, he must proceed in that way ; because he
,commits not for treason, but for a breach of the pear..
;Now, none of three, loons, as far as he (Lord F.)
!bad been able to ascertain, had been followed in the•
recent proceediago. In mord to the first Petition?
,arbich be presented, it appeared that the warrant torus
the arrest of the Petitioner (Frencis Ward) ari-
. .
,ginated nit with thaSecratary of State, but the Ma.
!gistrate at Nottinglsin, end that the parties entered
:the house, and refused to show the warrant. He
'had been told, that, with respect to the treabitent of
the people at Nottingham, great exaggerations had•
been made, and probably it might he so ; het hi-
would lutist, that .irons should not have been semi
in any of these eases, unless 'absolutely necessaryr:
He caeld.not help observing, that though the Settle-
tory of State might have given directions that these
people should .not be ill-treated, yet be took are
that all those who are the proper guardians of such
persons, the Magistrates and Justices of the Peace,.
should be prevented from aecerteining whether they
were ill used or not—(Hour, hear !)—ond therefore
if they were ironed% be was responsible for it.--.-Some
of the grietranotr Might be expressed in language
rather too strong; best he did not wonder that-per.
sons taken away from their families, and subjected'
to solitary confinement---a peoishatent unknown to'
the old law of England, and net inferior to death
itself—should consider themselves much eggrbned;
illit*arose -themselves in tie itrengest teints.-.'
ppe mil by am eases epos the &wank of
,the Haase, that
in the year 1689, Lord Caollfertine, a Member, was compelled
to the Tower, wider a *arrant of the Secretary of State tar
High Trespon: and the Hone being informed that he was not
allowed to see his friends or servants, an order wits wade that
they should be admitted to hinto.,t a Bill shon:d he bro
io to preyeot_solitary lleoprittsli‘ o-'
t, audthat AIL A -

Galati! *Geld peoreiiier ihr keeper. At were the Resolu-
linos of the Centeennsat that time; and he hoped that the House
would follow the wimple, and appoint a Committee to can-
wipe into the Ire& if the mattersamed is these Petitions, and
take manures for• pivieg redress.— [Hear. bearl3—He wow
called the atteetional flow to the ewe of these people.
He .maintained. dot 'they had been committed to prison with.
oat the orillisacy womanf the law. and had been dismissed
-It this - • watt

{leis doctrine, if admitted to -this extent.- would lead to. WI
Honourable Friend fotr. M. A. 'P ;
'Palo!) had soltme '
by Or juiiiicc in eke Northern CountielTiind -. would ;
.M 440 r :04 eviamitipeitt of a tie;rdoi; Ort .4't:atitit If
cretary of State, to mVi at jail in ddlitot
after Ile Assizes s there heleiglif ye for it "ROI. and olitia
Dear approaoli of the Amigo, mg#Ot he 14ivi!id AP okittopstriut • ~ 4
who had Ani,rifjit to conionit him, unit dic:saeaeØ without hut:
ioc any Feast* fist "hhlting. imiriscitioiseist. bort; :ikcase um*
arise daily future petite n,the tour aertberatessautiev. if the
principle lately ated itglitwere.oiltottted to Me law. li might
egriir strange, drag lie- 0110)„.. was lio ficcilhidi,la waif*
imprisonments, (who Omur.a the arrest and ircionwatitV2
persons whe had sulfated tiy them- were Racaurti !few stiogni,..
precite, should yet complain of their discharge; -Wein
Ul*k coopjdariuina it would be alloWed that he wax wimp
con;istesa. ille,complaitied of the 'miniver la which theme..
were disekirged..hrquise it took from IbTiall rietheibilas.,
imoseit derived them of all means of clear mete saizza, .
an, .pp 4 aAatm
_compensation roe -the losses 'bey iii(
TO t*.nardioldpo Au which. the,' 11141 heels lid4lgh"4- ,Norio 1
was not his July. motive, no! wash( thelissjy.cLuty ug the 11„...
to see tbescasen righted. •lt . wee, the ditty of ilietiowe Iv
take mattes of the • violation of the lows., and •to punish
those who were their violators. thwNit' Ow• 1' 'ill"" CA
had no connexion with the iransectioOr in qUeStiO4:l ;114
bad no ponisslaiais to makeagainst the Gofer...sow .-Lormie
hear 11--ire anialogio ~,,b„, wo stud is a (Wulff ,!earir. ii%
E ssi, the !L. . . that n,s person of cooseveiree w•AvAitiprisimigit t.u.ter
iii, Sas in Art. that no (i. ailetonit w. ode tett ski,
matte"complaints be heard throagrythis :lie** 4,1: %
speeches, that a.. victim w• s made *hose fa:v and sr '''
could cache, the attention or colt forth the. ,r .
country,- the Noble Lord declared-his betief that sorb 'I,
..,
was tree; lad that Ilia liajest3'icbtini-teti were well ad
' from the how rook of their l'tfitiliees
of .ssas
. UM at
'fate, or

the se. writs,. they derived ..- , the row ..... _ _. ..
Th••V -Seised upon them because they vomited victim of
kind tu jellify their measures, and it situ tot &Wet° iikt ,
others whin would not have submitted so qu tett . 1,, their[
ba.e accepted of their diochararou such rondllim•s, who mad
neithes have been imprisoned no to ned out of prise* *Wiest
crentiog some noise —(Hear, beer!].—not only oer tie r4141E
of them victims such as to preclude-them from rankinginvircuas.
plaints be beard with efeet. but the Home was told That ise,
complaints ought not to be listened to. because their alatioint
were false. It bud been argued that they Flield not belidliorid.
sad tkerefore. their Petitions far enquiry laid so stoking*
grittier:for his present motion. Evan admitting the prestige; if
the Gentleoneik opposite. be could not see the jouneworthoer
conclusion. If the allegations of the Petitieners wi re as hike
as they were contended to be, he aid) thought bisirros-st nimbi%
ought to be entertained, in order to have them diaprosed,o,4l
en show to the country that the Ministers, in the erierck °FAB
le,straordinaiy p Avers entrusted to then, bad proceeded sins
itnairccsary . rigour, or acted eiiirrary to the authoslty of law.
Web:Abet" told that Francis Ward,w hose petijion hejiad auou
the ground of his motion, was a bad character, and, lbw:
fuse. one/unify of the *Heath% of the House: 'Nukes:mild
ask on what ground the charge was osivatioed? Hod tit dope
any thing which had been proved against him—had hebot
Jr
convicted ninny armee ? •On the old maxim of Inn,' which he
oas -sorry to see • dircounteuturvsl by some kleeMmesg
Mouse—El tear !I —every irmiluig,ht to be liresunied eminent I
'he was fuotni to he guilty : and' this person ought there( i.s
. be citosidered as honest and credible till he was convkted une-
`ing the contrary. He would not only rely on this pseud the.
cruse, but he a uold ea,v that he had the autlywity or Goieni:
roent itself for this man's innocence: . Ile bad been takes spat
• Nottingham. immediately after the disturbances whiehakitaad
' the neighbouring districts, and which were made the seteit of
legal iavestigaiiun at Herby; and If any thing could have OM
,established against him, ought t,, have been brought to trial, aid ,
would have been brought to trial, long before this time. HSI 1
' discharge might therefore be taken as an orpiment for his is-
tocence. Sot if there were any uhjectiono against Wiurretts:
racier, there could be none against that of tae.Pstitiower, tibia .
coot bad this night been submitted to the Heinle by his Horn, •
' Girekwedd Primed i Mr. Keough/on), and Ilea cost, with
might be referred to the! Committee. Men, however. i
nth:Union that the conduct of Ward aas iridefewAhle.. 'hal*
could not be pleaded as an ammonia for dein* On idostiee.—
Whether be was a good or a bail mna. hit • ease deserved mil II
'enquired late, ,slid hr ought to lie ideeet,on elts'etteml fooling 1
,with any other 'alike( till his guilt was proved. He issid la
ceived a testimonial of Word's Mil:raster, which he afield reef' 1
to,the Menne.; if it Was necewary; bat he did not rtoundlitir
stream) on the Petitioner's character, but On the breach of WO
ta•••• ostrich had. berm wade in •his person. lie sboald iiwielote
aist trouble the Douse with any further observations, nut eve.
tlade by moving. ** nut.. t:qmpilttei• be appoinied 10 enquire
• into she 'mob of the niiespiaieni in die Petition of 1, rands stard, .
and report thereon to thriftiest- v .
Lord CASTLEItttiGiI said, he bad not
~.. , , „ A
rillogether prepared for toe' .coutse the Noble oataisr
hall taken, as he (Lord Castlereagh) had cumepreN
.pated to enter into the esse.o( WIWI as shaSokliesific
cmae.on which the- motion would be foended. ifie
did not think, however, *bit it would be neteusiy
to change the course which he should otherwise**
taken. The Noble Mover had divided his speede
into two considerations :—the first o( them had rh,
fereuce• to the proteedings which, he assumed (iisi
truly), would soon be .brought under the goai
dessAjoil of the House—a Bill of Indemnity. 09
this subject the Noble Mover bad not allpwnatcpaq
. A.
in his research. He had said that the precediat Ws
Hill of Indemnity had been snide in .1801, by 1l
who now demanded it.• On the contrary, he !If
lieved, that in all those cousin which the.Htls9l
.Corpus Act had been suspended, and that Susporear' '
bad beets acted open, it had beeu followed by a Ili
of Indemnity. The Bill of Indemnity in 18(11 toss'
pretty extensive, for it extended to acts done under
all the Suspensions of the Constitution from 1793
tp.lBol. But there had beets three Rills of Indus-
oily, one in King William's 'Yelps, one in 1715, sod
anotlier.in, 1745. He could affirm, that no etati.kail •
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been cbmipitted but upon "oath ; eon's's:ll.ml ad, ea
the oath of the person who had.tnade sp tnepiveltes
(Olivet,). .In evieitinitance,..mr,•tbe evidence hod
been submitted to the La* Officer of the Crolss•
But he (Lord Castlereagh) argued the case en
the assumption Of a dale ' quite different frow
'those of the Noble Mover. He (Lord Folkestor)
had denied die necessity of the measures; but the
llouse had recognized that necessity by. a large al-
lority. It was not by one Committee, but by,:tee

both Hr

That the and-

.cret Committees, in . WWII, •
arty bad been established; aed,,whateeer
of opinion there had been, the Members of .1M°!1
Contesittees, who were in the habit of diffesietrelor
his Alejesty's Goeesuraent, egreed in the far, tb
there wes air pr' ,iped Conspiracy for the oliatillov

without 'due priceis. . lilos lawyer wield Say that _., was --_ -. .. 7;-.F.P.14"1:- -
Irsegalar ; no one would bike opoo himself lo amett. nun aq Of Q,urch ana giaie; by . -
too Com mit t e d for is Ifsoom °Pate could be released without
doe process of law, modem it be, by. pardon. As to the reeogui- hem Prirlf- J18(14151 •in pot the'PhYtic°l fortes eft*.
tikiug advertise.. ei tie.
'awe of the parties themselvei, it sa an inferior sortuf bail, nal country in acting against the State cod the Corlftito,
see of kw warily. It .i; a mode of discharge as illegal on the lion. Ow a. coblrary tistucoptiusi, the argaastill 01
part of the Olken Of the Crown. as it is stsjust to the prisonits,
his illegal, heisaile it is diary to. all tae Statutes from Ed. the Noble Meyer- wisrfeuaded. It was aecessfll
ward L•• and oitimit heeliur it 'Vie" the limits with a atilt , certainly, 11131 titut4 the Sespenvion Act, ail tho
on their characters, *Web.. if they bad been tried, would most
probably set have Ruagf,,,d I„ thew. The gist &aro „olio, Sabsteutial. for** of justice should be adhered to i.
/owed was ;bat of .oo $4 ~or Edward I. couuniraly balled the. bat, would it be contended that individealsosO° 6.14 d.
litailtS.ol. Weiiiiinstee. Thig Act 'went to rePlevilwi the only i given information, ender: tblo %pros. its. Abaft t"'l
sort iirasil tworin at Awl dinei andfrosi thisitfrwas argued in
friar of die. powet el it itthretary of ease to commit, that abr. shot 114•1004 be prodsced in i Coen of Lee--Wtomt
power which the Klost.fitturrilPlMtwed hailleair.trattitrred: who bad given intermation, being seised with cone
to the Secretary of Mete. A •Magiitrale could nest ball is tom,! .•
where beeould sot earns;. Byshaaltabste of lebillis and glary, Pikar.tue, aud.desire to peeves! the. elect a dine
a ataateeste could oot slivebergy. a row; utwooiaii record.: which•they had contributed is ertavrt, bat wittidlll,
sow. iftlavesduat oostlotrterKi,llreAtrlr'"-1311 d'sfrOl.. 601 with to he made the instreeteuts for ilosecoultd"
Wild, that In this dirievireit ha 4 on the *whom, . „ .. ,
if the Goartef. IfAng's'llasidt.,ll4 Swag of adt #oetrise ihollila-1 fru' P°94hir4 their osoodolos'"twoold it lei gte
gbtostiocoold W1(014110 Treeloo.foctie prisoners hatappeare : ed that they should, in violation of good faith, be lo°'
ed beforedsat Coati where dieli recogidssutere diseliargedeunil
.o •0 AV sae • pro
the legality of entering two Ore had thus been ockoowledged. •duCodi (:Dort .1' I lit t • tea these per
To this be could mot &strut ; nu lubseciuctit at; of the priauatra 11l ai, Ind to pratett the Fecrettry vitiiitto •••"(11 ttl.

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Dorsi opinion which facts had so irresistibly impair 1011.suditog..4.hi ; ;L.:. .. luta! 04, t 7.,5,,..,.... lance of a Bill Of . a
~ . i , „p ,'w w I ..0 am att i ag that t agistr had the pokier idolhaiii
oil, that it was -impouiblo longer to dopy to viral ihndtatlee. 01 •iihe i!'!" •• ohnitei. . i i On " :iv
. 1 "II of the reign of 47 • . fit !Treason, they did not that power sic Lig,
for is the case of the pre-Goers, one Magistrate Kid takes i;t•
chased proper -to - , "Id tig•
administratioo of justice to this four Northern C;O4P. *424 .11* might
..sis a si_itpos iveft . ... recognisance% io slime immures, whereas ay she Act of Paiiip
a DOI to the Hoboes CO, US, ;tad Mary, she prtroce of two was required for the persica.
ties. He was vouch gratified to find that tha only ob- -Houk it night bil a could ersble unpromising of Ibis 'islet's. f _-- •-.4amor- ante of the ditty.. l'heie fersoos, therefore, mold mot lividly
jeetion was to the mods in which the remedy was to'
.f.,or_charntee, tigg,ll6-e-olitioHiar lad _
__ _ have bees baited ; for if it was regular now
..._ _-..112....1 ILL areaulkulli Uriesti his Hon. and Learned wards of dm, fulfil I.o4MOctor 4 Amikell'llri i...' rail * .
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'uweill... ""'Y t"'"" —•-- oleo Act. as that Act did not wake any cliairolaticlri":
tto snored! them. '.[kis_wc_s_ itald_iiif,_,AlrliotArs!maitswat_fir..4.l.l=.L.i.wmid h.....,i