The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-05-02 00:00:00

ORDERS IN COUNCIL,

The Earl of LAUDERDALE, in reference to
what the Noble Secretary of State bad just intima-
ted, said it would be desirable to know when it was
mw•ant the House should go into the Committee, what
time would be set aside for those proceedings ? Many
of the petitioners came from different parts of the
country; they must be prepared against the time.
They had other businesses to attend to, and it would
highly inconvenience them to experience unnecessary
delays.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that with regard
to the course of proceeding, every proper attention
should he paid to the personal accommodation of the
individuals alluded to. The e►►quiry should go on as
long as their Lordsuips should think proper, and he
thought a set number of days should be given up for
the purpose. He had no objection to commencing
the enquiry on an early day, and that Thursday next
would not be an improper time for the commence-
ment.

IRISH DISTILLERIES, &c.

The Earl of DARNLEY, in adverting to the Bill financial evil that had ever befallen the country. As
for preventing Distillation from Grain, then before to the secprity against exceskive issues by the Bank,
their Lordships' House, and repeating his regret the which the pursuit of their own interest afforded, it
measure was not earlier recurred to, pointedly ob- did not appear to him in atry way satisfactory, for
served, that on the dey it was known to be the deter- though the Bank would naturally, enough abstain
urination of Government, the price of oats fell from such an excessive issue as must injure its credit,
from 365. to 2,85. per barrel in the Dublin market. there were many degrees before it came to that ex-
A conversation of considerable length ensued, in I tremity. By the present Bill, an alteration was
which the Earls of Limerick, Darnley, and Lauder- made in the relation between the Bank of England
dale, were the principal speakers. The first-men- and the country, which rendered some additional
tioned Peer referred to some detailed accounts in his regulations necessary, and their Lordships should
hand, in support of his positions on a former evening, consider that the prerogative of tke Crown, to stamp
viz. that no appearance whatever of scarcity existed, the value on the current coin, was placed in the
at least in certain parts of Ireland, Limerick in par- hands of the Bank of England, by the' measure to
titular, where such a degree of plenty prevailed, as e which he alluded. He allowed that an immediate
to admit of considerable exportations of corn from return to the old established rule would not be ad-
that port ; not only large exportations to Scotland visable, but the present motion he thought necessary
especially, and to other parts of Ireland, but to for the purposes of regulation and controul.
Gibraltar and other places. Lord SIDMOUTH maintained, that whatever the
The Earl of DARNLEY contended, that what I present relatibn between the Bank of England and
was advanced by the Noble Earl, proving an abun- • • the Public was, it was precisely the same as had ex-
dant harvest, in a particular quarter, did not go to isted from the passing of the Restriction Act in 1797.
invalidate what he had alleged respecting general , He denied that Bank notes were made a legallender
scarcity andhigh prices. i by the Bill, which only provided that they should
The Earl of LAUDERDALE argued that expecte prevent any person being arrested. And, as to the
tation was not a proof of great abundance ; the ge- , alleged depreciation, he contended that 'neither Ate
neral state of the prices was the true index of sLareity ; existence of double prices, Hor the augmentation of
or plenty the price of commodities, was any proof of it. After
The Earl of LIMERICK, in the course of a short some observations in defence of the Bank. of Eng-
explanation, observed, that his'cOuntrymen had not lend, as a Corporation, and the propriety with
the same passion for oats as those of the Noble which it had uniformly conducted itself,. the Noble
Earl. . Lord concluded with expres6ing his 'dissent from the
' Lord HOLLAND, after shortly referring to the motion,' as nothing could'be expected from the com-
above subject of conversation; enquired if it was not mince, according to the Noble Marquis's (Marquis
the intention of the Noble Lord opposite to• lay of Lansdowne) own admission, who had acknow-
some information before the House relative to the tedge4 that it would be daageeeus to revert to the old
'tate of the Bank of Ireland, now they had thought systeas.- • _
proper to include that country in the Bill whiclf stood Lord ROSSLYN spoke at some length in favour
for discussion that evening? • of the motion.
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Earl BATHURST reminded the Noble Baron, 'Lord LAUDERDALE made a general reply.
that the various papers before the House were laid en After which the motion was negatived without a
the table solely at the instance of the Noble Lord division.
(Lord H.) at his side of the House. s ; The- House tten'vrent into a Committee on the
The Earl Of LAUDERDALE wais of opiuion,that Gold Coin Bill, la•which
as Ministers -*taught proper to extend the Bill to Lord LAUDERDALE 'proposed sew Amend-
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