The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-04-07 00:00:00

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took Is rlacei. in Wthehenseivet wasntli er'
distress which the country ewes suffering was wilt
into the account, this fact was monstrous. eici the
House pledged itself to revise the Establiihnnia% et
the State, and to adopt a principle of economy; when-
Meer that principle could be adopted, he Would oaks-
Motions from day to day to compel it t 4 that •
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,arehce had selected
om.mendation, wfmhrebiie , •
meant to move should be referred to the ennuniusK 1
That Report be begged leave to observe, alibengh ‘
driwn hp either by the Chancellor of the Benhenne,
or with his concurrence, and altboigh "--'
carious important considerations commies'' nth• tie
Arch+, the Navy, and die Ordnance, ii anti* is
the 'bible of the House for four years, aEs hoik.
His motion would be, "That it he an instracesa la the
Committee to take into consideration the. • •
dation of the COmmittee of Finance to this H lest 1
in
their Sixth Report."
Lord A. HAMILTON seconded the motion 0416 i
happy to take the earliest opportunity of red ,
pledge which he gave, that he was ready to s 4
proposition for economy. Although he should
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preferred an iteetruction, to the Committee
more condensed in its form, yet, coniidm Aw ing n*
quarter the recommendation proceeded, be flees* l
Honourable Friend bad done well mot to alter it.
The CH ANCELLOIt of the EXCHEQUER °hero&
that the strictest possible attention had bet=
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°overmuch& to the Reports of the Pipanee '
The House must at time same time see, that the Claik;
employed in the higher offices of Uoveinasent,
1 men of talent and education, were entitled to a
liberal allowance than cameo clerks. •Mach
would arise if persons of a different description were's .
ployed in those confidential offices. Ai unfaithful w
[ negligent clerk might, either from carelessness or hum
malpractices, cause more mischief than lay amiss
to be made in those offices could compensate for.
Sir J. NEWPORT, adverting to the office of Barrack
MasterAieneral for Ireland, observed, that it appeared
from a Report of the Committee of 1810 or VII I, that
there was a considerable deficiency in the accounts sr
that public officer (Lord Tyrawly).
Mr. D. BROWNE defended the character
Tyrawly, than whom there was sot a more
officer in the service. The Noble Lord had fall, dirM.
himself from the charge which had bees mak sishill
him.
Sir J. NEWPORT, in explanation, observed, thathe
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meant to cast no imputation upon the character abed,
1 Trimly ; he bad only stated a fact which appeared
from the Report of the Committee.
Mr. W. POLE said, that the circumstance's. alluded to
respecting Lord l'yrawly occn rred while he(Mr. Pele)ou
in office in Ireland. It was found, that not that Sale
Lord, but some persons under him were unwilling tem
tern in their accounts. He was, however, happy is
state, that Lord Tyrawly bad, since that period, mole
up his accounts much to his honour, and that there Ira
a balance in his favour.—(Hear, hear!)
Mr. KLIMA expressed a hope that ummo lime
would be introduced to amend the Inn of the Illmuu
able Member for Corfe Castle (we believe Si
%loos Bill). The provisions of that Rill were ,
a most enormous charge to the country. The
nisei Umber, wu of opinion, that it would be wi
more expedient to postpone entering into a dion
of the estimates in detail, until the Rouse wWW
into a Committee.
Mr. HUSKISSON suggested to the Hoare*
Mover of the Resolution whether it would not he ewes
convenient to withdraw the motion, and to more that
the whole of the Finance Report, from which he led
taken his extract, should be referred to the Committee!
Mr. HUME said he would gladly accede to any the
which united the convenience of the House, but the ime•
nourable member would recollect, that the Report is
question was upon the Navy, and therefore he did mist
wish to refer it to a Committee upon the Army Betl•
mates.
After a few words from Mr. Hosaisson and Mr. W.
SMITH,
Mr. 111.:ME withdrew his motleys, and it was 'rim
ed that the hixth Finance Report be referred is a
Committee.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
The Speaker having left the Chair, the House resided
itself into a Committee of eupply.
Lord PALMBILSTON proposed that a sum not et.
cresting 50,41 e/. les. ed. be granted for the charge aid
allowances of the office of Secretary of War tier this
year.
Colonel DAVIES, after complimenting Lord Pala.
ston upon the manner in which lie conducted the olfe
cial duties of his office, objected to the grant; the 's-
perm of this office was at present one-third mere, me-
in some instances double what it was is 18116, Was ti"
duties of it were tenfold more than they now are. The
whole sum voted for this office in 1806, me 25,000.• and
now that sum was more than doubled, though the am'
try was in a state of profound peace. After some fer-
ther observations to the same effect, the Hon. Membw
concluded with moving as an amendthent, that the wo.
of 45,000/. should be substituted in the rem a
30,4151. 16s. Bd.
Lord PALMERSTON maintained, that even Mist
the year 1806 as the standard, the presest estimate
could not he objected to on the ground of extravagaeol.....
for in Ihll6 the expenees of the oMee aumetett 11
50,1432/. 34. I Id., whereas it was now 50,418/.
Colonel DAVIN said be would stake his credit 0
the assertion that the charge for this department is
Iho6, did not exceed 25,000/.
Mr. HUME thought be could slew that the NO
Lord had increased the expense of his office is well
way ; sod that even if be bad 20,0901. more allowedly
him, he would find employment for it according is NI
present system. He was of opinion that the eseelo
the office might safely be reduced one half; bet, 011 bed
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a loaf was better than no bread, lie would supperl'w
amendment of his Hon. Friend.
Lord PALMERSTON defended the existing wait
wents of his office, and maintained that every poo_
reduction had been made, consistently with the FOY'
interests.
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master's establishment. It seemeil to him that there els,
&determination on the part of those persons cognectee
with the whole of the military system to resist eveti
species of reformation, and every plan that might:
likely to promote economy. If the whole matter le
examined, with a view to get rid of the presest.systw.:
many olicee might be consolidated, others got rol of al
together, and mach expense saved to the public. .
Lord PALMERSTON said, that the I risb beard W,
eternising military agnate was established by ties"
Pangaea.
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