The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-06-04 00:00:00

THE

HiPied **ken with coaddorable vehemence on the
emoodorsosodint had ben proposed oleealtate to the
Pill thiredeced by him. Now, it was not Baptises',
Shat Obit Bill,, which differed essentially from thp
abjeits tint wets *referred to the consideration a the
Curability., from sikicli it emanated u it was `ale.
tally foniekshoold have been thus altered. That
Committee Ares ippoisted to enquire into the state it
Ed•cathia usenet the Peet—and the Lamed Goa-
Orman pureed ,that enquiry, for several months,
with great attention. But finding that this inroad.
gitini wad too confined a nature, it wis *posed
to males into the State of public institetionsead
this Bill was filially produced. The complaiets of
the Leased Gallatin, with respect to the delays
in the Court of Chancery, did, in his opinion, throw
a species of imputation on the entire administration
of justice is the country-411 impitation Which 'the
Learned Gentleman ought rather to have warded off,
Ohms lave encouraged. If they wept to the Coat
of Kissel Beech or of Common Pleas, they would
lied a certain portion of delay—and, be believed,
that 10011111010DC011 of this kind were inseparable
from all human institutions. But, after all, if
they wished to remedy these abuses of which the
Hes. and Learned Gentleman complained, they
must, eltiaately, go to that very Court of Chancery,
es whisk ho had reflected so streogly. He cow:viral,
that if trey agreed to the present motios, it wield
have the effect of retarding rather than of forbad.
log the object which they all had is view—aid, for
the accomplishment of which they bad already take
a very decisive step. He could not agree to a maid'.
plicaties of Commissions to enquire into this subject,
since they would be more likely to injure than to
assist each other. Now, the Learned Gentiana
said, he wield, in the nest Sapiens, move for the
re.appolatmest of the Committee, whose labours
bad been so successful in the present. How then
would the Country stand if this mottos were Coact-
dud ? There would, at the same den, be a Cosa.
minas of the House of Comoooos-4 Commission
under the Bill which had been agreed to—sad a
Commission soder the Great Seal—enquirieg into
the saute specific poises. Nothing, he conceived,
could tend more to destroy a harmonious spirit of le-
gislation between the two Houses of Parliament than
such a 'leasers. He considered it very estrairdina.
ry, that the Learned Gentleinan should suppose,'
when he had laid this proposition on the table, and
made his speech, that his duty was entirely corn.
plated—that he might absent himself—and abstain
from bearing any observations on this subject.—'
(Cries of Hear, hear, hear!—Mr. Brougham had
al this time Left the koasse.)—lt was surprising, that
Gallant' of thbprofession to which he belonged,
should retire, after making a proposition that might
involve the two Houses of Parliament in a dispute'
with respect to their authority. Probably, in the
nest Session of Pediment, a measure might be agreed
to which would go to the extent demanded by the
Learned Gentleman. Bet' it should be observed,
ibat the Bill, as it originally stood, went to an es•
aolinatioo of not less than 30 or 40,000 Institutions,
and this being the case, it was not to be wondered
at, if, in the first insane, the measure should have
been very considerably modified. No case of mai-
*, baths been made out, and it appearing to him
*proper that they should attempt to do that by ad.
*6l 'filch they 'bald not effect in a legislative man.
lir, he should oppose the motion. When he laid
this, be did not mean to question the general pro.
ifrriety of enquiry—bet, be conceived, that in the
present Session, having failed to carry • legislative
' enactment, introduced for the purpose of effectiog
the object the Learned Gentleman had in view, they
ought not, by a proceeding of the kind now ender
dismission, hoard a dispute with the other House of
Parliament. He, therefore, begged leave to move
the petioles question.
Mr..BROUGHAM (who had entered the House
before Lord Castlereagh sat down), assured the No.
hie Lead that he meant no disrespect to bile, in
Welded the, body of the Hoes.. lie meta merely to
take same refreshment—and no part4,4be Noble

Lentos 'prick sir• lost on hi..- •
Lord CasxLiagAeu and Mr. BROUGMAIII
plrin►d.

• Sit& ROMILLY expressed his firm conviction,
that it was almost impes%ible, by a suit in the Coed
Of Chaticery, to 6sd a remedy for the malversation
of the funds of a charitable institution. lie said this
Advisedly% having blew long connected with that
Fourt. *.snit of that kind was very different from
en ordinary one. When a sailor, having a property
Itirekl,applied to Solicitor, to commence a suit,
i Liter being. sure of his costs, imasediaity pro.
Bet, t n the ease of a charitable inilitolleo.
be Introduced by some Orson who had
-1 interest in its decision—=ind be' mast
6 •
up sin to :pen a large says,. money,
mid to suffer all the obloquy wiiich genegany'attend-
lit'llioo who bela4l themselves in soar matteis—
• heed not hope for success. His blamed
Mind bad been maned with having made 'Host
illimerVatielli on be Cried of Coancery—now he'
east ay, tint, as badness was at present ei;iiducted
it was next to impossible, in cases of the de.
d alledodte, to arrive eti fortunate Wale
boweees4, of opinion, that, Without ipplygg or
littitatiyo laterference at all, the eiili might be col-
fleted wMth retarded dirt course of justice.
Mr. IL BATHURST -believed, that the millet
Salmi Quint* 11'460114ns with *Arnie for Edkol•
doe in the Bill, hid net warred to ttii Honourilde
ism toisidied•Geittlemen himself till ri late Mgt.
Mr. BROUGHAM iaidt be bed stated to the
&Ilse when be int btoWitlatiwilise Bill, that Ise bad
so drowse it up, that this aditiM might easily IS
is* lithe nom thembit•fit„ though the Cp..
OMR maid not iocledg,agar Charities is their,*
*tractions: • f. -
Mr. B. BATHUBWittmsuproceeded to abitiya.
Mac* estuary into the*" of Education woeld he
eaoeludes with more adventase after it was @mor-
alisedwhat Were-tee. Till
'oacortaloed,