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TRIUMPH OF THE QUEEN !!!
We stop the Press to sesame, that THE BILL
OF PUNS AND PENALTIES IS REJECTED.—
No Englishman will wish to Isar ancder vrmi
upon the sukcct.

I►IVISIUY'.

Contents .
Non-contents

Lord LIVIIRPOOL then wowed that the Dill be
read THIS DAY SIX MONTHS.

New York papers to the 14th of Oct., and Bale
papers to the 17th arrived this morning, from wriih
the following are extracts:—" Our Davannalt papers
are principally filled with the proceedings of the Pro.
uncial Deputation, which, in its nature and porcr,
resembles the State Legislature of this country. The
members appointed to represent the Island of Cu*
in the Cotta, were to proceed to Spain, in the Spanish
frigate Sabin., which was expected from Vera Cray."
A litter from Savannah of the 2d of Oct. states,th2t
the sickness bad not at all abated. The whole nine.
her of deaths from the Ist. to the 30th of Sept. incl..
sire, is 234.
Extract of a letter, dated Ship Hornet, Island of 80.
navies, 27th of August :—" On our arrival at Sierra
Leone, we learned the painful intelligence that all the
colony, except one man, had fallen a sacrifice ft the
climate. Our stay at Sierra Leone was font days,
three of which we experienced au incessant torrent of
rain, night and day. We leave this day to mite
among the islands".

The accounts from Paris to the 7th instant are saint.
portant.
Accounts received from Naples state, that amen 8ri..1
flit; ships of war h.►d entered the Bay, which somewhat
alarmed the authorities, ulio resuonstrati4l with the
Ailmirai on the subject; the answer received was under.
stood to he satisfactory on that point, and the Admiral
was about to put to sea again immediately. A Tad
her of couriers are continually passing through
Frankfort going to Troppan.
From Toulon they state that one ship of the line and
a frig-ate is to cruise between Naples and Palermo.
French Funds, use per cents 76 f. 50 e,

Extract of a Letter from Sanarilla Bay, August
341 :—" I wrote you last, per lirutuf, giving you
the particulars of oar slow moveuients in this part of
the world ; since which, operations of a more deter-
mined character have taken place. Santa Martha
will certainly fall in a few days, being, besieger' by
tiOW) men and 5'2 run boats. The Columbian brig
of war, tieueral Urdanetta, was run on the Negrilas,
and went down head foremost."

During the continnance of the proceeding* against
the. QUIKEN. MAW'S °l earning kinds hare at different
times been cineplated, and 'obtained very general be-
lief. At no period, however, have we beard of reports
so strange, so passing strange, as those which hare
been disseminated this morning. " TAO mmeb *leo-
demi oritmeem .114jorchi," it is now said, overcome with
the feelings of coin punctionow u nder the i eillegnee of some
other conflirting spell,has at lengtheotelessed Isis perjery.
That something. of an extraordinary stature has
cuffed, no doubt can be entertained. Lurd Livoze-
DALE and the A Iroux it :41ENILRAL have had a private
conference which has lasted during the greater Pert ri
the Intoning. Mr. DENMAN we learn too, LP, beet
with MAJOVVIII iU CUUoll(larelne. If it be true that
MAJOITIII has acknowledged his crime, it is also tins
that he has denounced his seducer, who is of AW Wirt
mon stamp. That any person kileting as %feat:
situation in Mit country, alionlil have descended so
low we neyvt. could %metro. Nut. di, we ;tug* "IWO
that any one cutinect°4 with oldie., will prove to have
hiwn the suborner.

Caarsss roe TlVa.vrasomition.—lre are ng.sin ;ors?,
rd, n•sol tllll an authority in whirls onr Readers, ire he,
lieve, sissy Confide, that Mricatl....asts is eCillally rating".
ing the rite of iVe.truissaterri 'Else Iwo isl.iee in whi..l,
we heard .f Isis exertions wait s arki.t.
ground on which the floss. tieutlernan .pesnlors, srs
now understand is be, the eelsoetatioss that Sir
Fr•sneis Burdett. may, this Terns, be s•entreeesl to 11
long ronfitseateat, sod ofterwar.is expelled the lbw*
of Cinamon!!!
Private lettertfroso Naples 'neuritis theft:Priem' lir
has !seen saaptuolell by his florpoosisent (Finn the note'
*Anil ta the *nor. fist Isariitx riteeple.l Isis orders is
graMing t o ankles of raisitulalitm.
lb° "Pm, of ttttai.t strived et Troppau on Cie
311th ult. The Priner Russ! of Prussia has also s t
rived, and the Kish was esiwuvd there 4e th

P'

TILE QUEEN.
HOUSF. OF LORDS.—Tsts Movdma.

vie peers bating been called over, the Order of the
Dar was trail by the Clerk of the House. and the Lord
0;0011ff pat the question whether the Bill of Pains
lei penalties should be read a third time?
Dia rail of MIBILEY then addressed the House.
beg one of those be said, who bad supported a motion
**Committee in an early stage of these proceedings,
otiaing as he had and did now, that an inquiry into
iblaapelact of the Queen was highly proper, he had
ling for the advancement of this Bill up to the presses
time He thought that his Noble Friends at the head
ei the Government, had been perfectly justified in the
snares they bad taken to prosecute the inquiry, and
timiare, whatever might be his opinion of the Bill, lie was
amigos it should be understood, he did not conceive any
twins attributable to them. They were compelled to
tk siarletrge of their painful duty by the irresistible
nay of the case. But in giving his conscientious
*aims in the whole of the case, he was compelled to
ma, dot he found it impossible to support this Bill on
t4qeestiou for its third reading. The Bill, in itself,
be waved to be, he would not say a revolutionary, but
.alyaf an anti-monarchial character; but at present
he „sata eelress himself to the charges upon which it
irs belied. Those charges had not been established to
he annelhdlee. They embraced a period of six years,
„id rat sr one distinct act of adultery had been proved,
or attempted to be proved by a credible witness.
Fatestive as had been the means for prosecuting this
;vire, and diligent as, he doubted not, had been the
rankles to obtain the evidence, yet he would repeat.
eluh the emirs.. of the whole period of six years charged
lithe Bill as &continuance of an adulterous intercourse,
re one distinct act of adultery had attempted to be
p-oved by i credible witness. Unquestionably, he
admitted, that hike:lces might be drawn from various
farts is seaport of the charge of adultery, but their
Lordships woold here observe a very marked distinction.
If the period charged *ere a period of six weeks in-
stead of sit years,he would be disposed to give every weight
to the argument established upon inference ; bet when
the charge covered so extensive a period as that of six
Fran, it oust be obvious that the facility of obtaining
proof mast be muttip!ied in the same proportion as the
time be had ittentitmetl bore to the period charged by
the gill; and it was the essence of this proof, notwith-
sushi, that facility, which had induced his dissatisfac-
tin at the er!.lenee, and brought him to the conclusion,
that those charges had not been legally established. He
thosght it lbs ditty to refer their Lordships to the scene
in the polacre, which seemed to form the principal
pearl of the charge. It hail been admitted that Dee-
pen sail the Princess slept under the tent for six weeks,
a.J from that cireumstance, the inference of adultery
bad been draws. Their Lordship. should feel that in-
ferences of sa general a nature could not be drawn. The
Noble Lord thee proceeded to draw a distinction Ism
meta the law as related to adultery in ancient and Ma
dare times. tie esiiiied to state Welly to their Load*,
the reasons ;flat imiuced him to doubt the commildell
of the crime in the polacre. In the first place, it anginal
that there teas no secrecy at all observed, that then
was free access, awl when their Lordships took into con-
titleration the varluns circumstances that might have
drawn persons there, it teas quite impossible to draw
so remote a conclusion, that that place should be se-
lected, or that the Princess should in that particular
point, have deviated from her venal caution, and afforded
an opportunity of these presumption.; being drawn. It
was a most unconstitutional measure. There was no
appearance of state necessity as had been stated. And
it was a most impolitic measure, pregnant with all pos-
sible danger, to tlepose a King or Queen by an es
put frau law'. An I if once adopted, where he
small as!t, might the evil stop? This was not
the age for such a proceeding. We were not to
be supposed more wise or more virtuous than any
other nation. Their Lordships could not be ignorant
of the great advantages the mate muqderive, front the
virtues and personal character of the est g Monarch.
The Noble and Learned Lord conchal saying, that
he felt it his duty to vote against a Bill t at was preg-
nant with such incalculable danger to the State.
Lord 50.4 PAS then rose and said, he should be most
hippy if hr c0.:14 agree with the Noble and Learned
Lord who had just sat Clown. But the circumstances of
the case compelled him to think otherwise. Many of
the Noble Lords who voted against the second reading
of the Bill expressed an opinion that the charges had
been proved. That circumetanca was calculated to rise
strung suspicions. lie Ilia not mean to say that there
teat missal roof, but there were circumstances of e•
strong a nature, that inferences of a criminal 110,1'cm:rill
alight legally be drawn. Hs felt himself obliged to
snake a few observations on the evidence, and he mast
beg the indulgence of the House. He should dwell
particularly on that evidence that induced him to form
Are opinions. lie then called their Lordships atter,-
tion to the scene at t'arishrue. Ile described the posl-
- of the rooms where the Princess and Bergami slept.
lilies, circinustanres hail been sworn to by a person,
n ho, according to the opinion of a Noble Marquests(Lans-
dot; lie). who certainly was not favourable to the Bilk,
use: retitled to credit. However, he qualified the Agree
.0 credit, by saving she was compelled to cone, hen.—
A • al:prated from her evitiesice, that the Princess slept is
NO. 103 the adjoining room, No 11, well a graillir
room. ileragatui slept in the met room, 12, and therei
i'.46 a communication betwen those rooms with the
iiaing-room. Pamir:teed that there bad been a large
bed, a broad bed, whiels roast have been pat there
h. the /directions of the Princess.—He thought
a.ohing oetil.l be &Integer titan evidence of a 14011100
Lein un a bed with a man, and that man with
11:• arms round her neck. Iris Lordship theta
read the 'moat part of the evidence of Krauts, sad
'roils Wien. shat etotld hr stronger? Tu his under.
standing, nothing. It might be week but be amid
totweive nothing more strong. lie pitied the feelisgs
of the treason when she had been obliged to stead at
that bar awl Bite et ideate of snub a satire. Ms

THE ST,

Lordship then commented generally upon the
subjects connected with the case at Carlsruhe. He
did not mean to cuter into a justificaron of Baron
(Janata or any other persons, hut 1 e had' seen
nothing improper in the manner in whit h th. witness
had been brought to thls country. With teep•ct to the
money she was to have received, he himstlf had cause
to lament that in the law proceedings of this country
there was no bringing witnesses to give evidence with-
out heavy expenses. lie denied an assertion of the
Nursing niroxicle, that Le had heard the evidence for
the prosecution and nut for the defence. He appealed to
their Lordships whether the assertion was not positively
false.—(Hear, hear.)—lie had been absent only from
the examinations of Flynn and Hownam ; and he was
present at the whole of the summing up for the defence-
His Lordship then commented upon the evidence rela-
tive to the favours conferred by her Majesty upon Bee-
gaud, while he still wore a courier's livery. It had
been described as a sort of uniform. .1 courier wear a
uniform! Why it was as likely that he wore a royal
diadem. Doctor Holland's evidence had supported De-
'wont in her statement respecting the Theatre San Car-
los. He next alluded to the evidence of Lady Charlotte
Lindsay, respecting the bottle, and said he was not
urging these things as proofs of adultery, but as
being strongly corroborative of the other facts sworn to.
He then adverted to the circumstance of the introslnc-
lion into the house of her Royal Highness of all the mew
hers of Bergami's family except his wife. His Lord-
ship proceeded at considerable length to read and com-
ment upon the whole of the evidence, and urging in
support of the charges against the Queen, the argu-
ments urged by the Solicitor, but without their original
force. Had the Noble Lord been audible and distinct
(though he was neither one thing nor the other) we
should have found it impossible to collect any thing
more than the suns total of his speech, which was in-
terupted by loud (lies of Question! Question!! and
other marks of impatience.

Earl FORTESCUE followed Lord Somers, but ;n a
very enfeebled tune of voice. He expressed leis regret
at not being under the necessity of differing in opinion
from his Noble Friend near him (Lord tirenville), but
an attentive consideration of this ease had brought him
to doubt much of the evidence ; and even if that doubt
were not in the way, he should oppose the present Bill
upon principle. Ile considered it unconstitutional, and
most mischievous as a precedent ; and he trusted their
Lordships would pause before they gave their sanction
to a proceeding which appeared to be a step towards
bringing the monarchy into danger.
There was now almost an equal number of voices
Calling for the Lord Chancellor and the Duke of Bed-
ford, who both rose together. The Noble and Learned
Lord gave way to the Noble Duke.
The Duke of BEDFORD then proceeded to address!
their Lordships. Unwilling as he was at all times to
trouble their Lordships. he had more reason to feel
so on the present occasion, when so much talent had
been displayed on either side of the question under'
discussion. But the proceeding before their Lordships
was so important, as well in its Integre as Its con-1
sequences, that he felt he should not discharge his
duty as a Peer, if he were to suffer this Bill to go to a
division, without offering his very humble opinion
upon It. With respect to the evidence which had been
adduced in support of the charge against her Majesty,
he tould not but express his surprise that the Noble
Lord at the head of his Majesty's Councils should
pass his opinion of her guilt upon the evidence of such
witnesses as Majocchi and Demosit.—(Hear, hear, hear.)
His surprise was not less when lie beard the Noble Lord
on the Cross Bench (Lord Somers,) in treating upon the
evidence, fall into so palpable an error (unintentional'
no doubt) as to assert that the evidence of Demont had I
been confirmed by that of Dr. Holland with respect to
the ball at Naples. If that Noble Lord would give him-
self the trouble to read that part of the evidence again,
he would find that her evidence was at least not confirm
ed by that of Doctor Holland; for the testimony
of the Doctor went very considerably to contradict her.
It was not necessary for him to go into details on the
evidence. It had been so ably commented on by the
Learned Counsel, on both sides, and so ably treated by
the Noble Lords, who spoke on both sides, that it was
quite unnecessary for him to fatigue their Lordships.—
But there were some circumstances, that he could not
pass. There were innumerable instances to be found is
History, of Princesses and Princes, who had descended
to familiarities with their dependents. Nor, were our j
own times barren of incidents of this sort. The Noble
Duke then alluded to Lord Bacon's account of Queen'
Elisabeth. He said, that she had continued, and car-
ried
on these familiarities, to so late a period, se sot
to become her years.—(llear, hear. hear.)—If she had
been persecuted. her steps followed, and beset
with spies, what would become of the boasted glory of
her illustrious teign.—(Loud cheers.)—But there was
one most remarkable circumstar...e in that proceeding.
For three long years, not a shadow of proof, from 1817,1
not a shadow of suspicion had been adduced against the
Queen.—(llear, hear !)—Looking at the whole of the
case, he would lay his hand on his heart, and most
corowientionalv say—Nor Going, ox my Honore.
The LORI) CHANCELLOR next rose to address
their Lordships. He had stated at a former period, that
it was quite impossible that any one could vote for the
second reading of that Bill,who was not convinced of the
guilt of the Queen, and sonvinced on legal evidence, and
when be said legal evidence, he meant, legal preens''.
tion. Ile had taken the liberty, and be hoped, their Lord-
ships would excuse that !amity, that if their Lordehips
had been convinced, on legal evidence,' that the sub-
stantial charges in the preamble, had been preyed, it would
be competent for them to charge in the committee, wind
they thought had not been proved. He looked
himself as a co-juror. with all the others. and he IC:
stated, what be now repented, that should any circuits.
stance occur to the last moment, that should
duce him to change Isis opinion on the gent or
innocence of the Queen. that he should feel himself
entitled so vote against the third mailing of
Bill! It was not his intention to soy eon mat
on the police of the measure. The simple
vino to which be would confine himself, was.
their lessilabips, or had they not been convinced. oil
legal evidence, that the guilt was established ?
(To be continued in a Second Belliion.)