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epode-tied he VIGGO temperate with the Spenah tarnevals.
t.lbetli sad V in drawls& Vktor bevead the fagot,
oast thus to protect I soatherA pmehmesbXzeia. He had
then to look. to a Government telly e11t..1 ...-to IL etiostry
wboeb wait joked to abound is pg.-waiter—to a Cameral
who enjoyed the confidence of that Ciliveritment, and of the
enontry, sad particularly the lure and cordideoce of the army
be commanded. That army consisted of iB.MXI men, vo il
equipped, and in all appearance well disciplined. The ne-
rd of that army, whe had so many pleas in his favour, soli-
cited the co-operation of the British troops in that binned ser-
e!eo, mid for the limited object he had already ailed. Rode
could Lord Welliagtou reface under such circumstances, sulky
he supposed the Sptaish Goverument was incompetent to per-
form Its duty' The country. though full of resources and
provisoons, was iocomprient or unwilling to supply him.
sod, s. s. this movement would lead to secure the safety of Por-
tool, and by defending Spain, he at the sane time protected
Portugal. He then urged every effort that seal, courage,
sPint rind activity could call forth, and be applied, with 'his
brit judgment, the means of which he was in ptomaine, to
the object for which they were especially intended; for be
would ..b.orve again that Lard W. entered Spain in order a
defend Portugal,. In so doing, it 54 been said, he did ant
employ the necessary precaution. But he would here again
ask. was Lord Wellirigton to refuse to place any confideoce Oa
Cameral Cuesta, in the army be commanded. BU the Govern-
ment of Spain. or in the country he was est to assist P The
plan of co-operation was now settled. and Lord W. was to
move again.' Vireo in concert with General Cateta. lewas
Seed.at the same time, that Yeargas should push un iowitrds
Madrid. in order to draw of those corps of the French ar-
my commanded by Sehastiani and Joseph Bonaparte.. la
leis sente if things. if duly (-tined iiito .exeeetiole ay me
larl Wellington fully jnoifiei in expecting ISCteui ? lei the
2'2 I of July be moved towards Tat • and on the 22d, the '
ender
eaten Victor approached them. [AIM W. peoenised to
atetck it that morning ; aid what but a complete victory
coied then have been expected over the 'separate corps of
Viesor, since after be was able to defeat the united forces of
fiebestiani, Joseph, &e.? With all this Lir prospect of de-
ptreying Victors corps. Ceesta, for mama. whirls never have
been explained, refused- to attack until lII' following day :
end bebial 1 during that very night Victor made his escape.
sad joined Sebactiani.— Meantime. Vetegas, who was iu-
striorted to be at Organs on the 22d, received counter-orders
from the Cetera! Junta. for what reason, or with what view
be told sever understaad ; but the result was, that General
Vanes, lithe warm be in motion on the twenty-seeonJ, did
sot begin to advance till the twenty-ninth. Could any
General withstand such cross purposes?--Could any opera-
gam, however well concerted, succeed under such contra-
dictory orders' If now it was stated at your Bar, that
sneer all these circematurea, so promising of success, Geo.
Cuesta refused the proposed attack on the 23d, and the Cen-
tral Janta euunternianled the movement of Venegas, which
wise, essential to the combined operation, what could you
%Aped from nay General in such a dilemma ? But measures
of a different complexion and result might now, he trusted,
he eapected from the Spani-b Government. It was now ar-
;Wady to be wished and hope I. that the actign or the Esc-
males Power would unite and co-operate with the spirit of
tee people; that Spain wattle act a part worthy of bersi•lf,
and worthy of bergreat aid guavas Ally. This perfection
Ott her Goverment could not be the work of a day. Were
we never to amplify a single soldier, or risk a siaeliexertiou
is her beiialf, saws she had arrived at all the perfectioa of a
tree Stole? Could it be expected that Spain. emergina from
ee teepee and servitude la which her faculties and en egieSe
Ind so wag positrampedt .merging from ancient inveterate
habits aadlifejedices which benighted her anderstandiae;
emerging from doe Matt at division and disconsectiosi be.
teas bet letterset *ovinees, which, Woweva r they might
jobs to hared and Melaosite against tae common invader,
• atm yet jci sabot*** at wafture with each other, was
la emoseable to evert that Spin would at once and on a
.ides 'mild thi utmost perfection of a settled. ells
lightened. eel viktirs Govhathsentt lie wadi now re-
tam to the battle Fla thriven, and the circumstances which
eharacterise.l this battle, awl he gravid baldly contend,
that la a asilitary p tilt ortew,.nothiag could have been
snore gallo a ead eampeteat t • tae repulse which the
thereilastaineds whereste be directed his attack. lie caeleig
ail pretend noriately to aqua questions merely military. Bat.
be nimbi fairly ail. whether there was on skill, So bravery{'
as glory hi the mode by which that repulse was effected-mi
repolae which the enemy himself has acksowledeed tube et[{
of the deepest woofs& that had yet ben iedieted on hit mills
etre character t Now as to the cunsequemeee of that butileoa
/le Would only ask, were they such as to disparage the me.
ens dirahotea on' the steresion? Was not the battle itself es-
eential to the objects of the campaign' Unleathat blew 1641
loion stork against victor, would it not hive Seen Inspossi-
Me lo prevent the moray . from overrunning the South of
S'Oa (is or making an inviolate Me Portugal P The pot- •
Nen,
t.iostikt thew 'operations on tie part of the campy-were meat
I i. tamalel to the objects of the Expellees. It saved it
owls of Spain roan ^wilier destrurtion' while it
cheese Porisred„ to or anise her army, Mid strengthen 114
aolitiwy positions. By taking up the position which Lord Ws
end-ewer& loccupled, begrime/ himself in a posture where
he could dcnw provisioi from the adjacent cowers, stria
at the same time he drew neoret to. her own magamites.ote
What was the remelt ? Until thin the Freneh armies were-ac-
tively menacing the South of Spain and Portugal. S Iss
that they have bees compelled to append their uperations
these points. Upon the topic of military distretion,
should not enter into any critical disquisition. He would nee
however, hesitate to allirm. that in furtherance of the objece
on which he was employed, Lord W. made a judicipts apa-
pie-aeon of his means, and drew ['rpm them every advantage
of which they seemed so susceptible. From the leisure and
opportunity be has afforded Portugal of improving the state
of her army, it has already been hrouz,ht to a perfection
which will enable it vigorously. and he hoped, effectually,
to co-operate with a British force. He would pot say
that Lord W. had placed that country is a complete state of
security; but this he might safely assert, that it was now in
*better slate of security than it has yet been since it bad to
Calteod whet the invasion from France. Now, after this view
of the questlau. and after this simple enameration of what
lard Nelliegtoo had performed for the safety both of Spain
* 01 Portugal, it was not from partiality, bat justice, that he
declared that in his mind, Lord Wellington was fairly enti-
tled to all the hoomos be his already acquired. and to the
high Matinee as which his Majesty bas been -graciously
pleased to bestow upon his personal services; and that he has
as just a claim to tee reward which the present motion is in-
tended to grant, as any Nobli: Lord who has ever been tio-s
neared bv a similar distiaction or even as any Noble Lord
eats save t i the hereditar: title which he new enjoy*.
* Lord HARROW BY aspersed the Mullen in a short
oteech, and explained in respect to some pulsates in the de-
bate of the preceding eveolno.
. Lord GRENVILLE remloded the Home, that he bad not
objected on a former day to a vote of thanks to' the brave
men aidollieen who had fought the battles of their country;..
yo he dififirm, however Ministers had found the present ma- i
uoa cememiap, that the House could not look at the coo
Mays Wipe* sad pass the present vote under the coatramak
‘IIIW of vitalised ill skill evinced at the Battle of Takivese*
More eireimileocesmaisected with that campaign were tent
,soldered' before the House came to a vote of choke foe
what bit Leithhip termed a fatal and calamitous Beardlike*
The BMW sold sot enter into the question without eddit Wee
liddriplitis. IC.OI necessary mat onlo state the skill ate
renew wide!' bail been Collard at tie Battle of Talaveio
bait to describe the antecetient events with truth and accuracy.
',sweaty-four boars might sulk* to try the merits of oedema
who had borne fatigue and all the privations attached M
military, but the merits of a I 411rtal could not be summoned
svitbiu that narrow portioa ft* time. He was - ft
say, that the gement objects of the campaign were os
pirlip
tall ad the those Sic imptiry. *t Menem timer his
d id aut feel a COM ietiwe that it was accessary to caste newt am
the emodact of the rseireral who bud foo,tht the battle or Tie
tavern, became theardere Rader which that General had asie,
fed were not before the House. - He as willing to belie*
that lithe Spanish armies had beim kdl.eticed by the spirit.
cad discipline which lied dialagaished the British t
such might have bees effeetted.• The co-operation of
apanish forces bad bees the depeadmece of Ministers. The
Mimes* of the troogs in Spain, end the safety of Portugao
Wrested oa eta coroperation, bet whore had co-operas
bus famed ? A plan was Teased, said the Noble Lords M
am se a detachment of the french force in dustrassism
*mind Cuosta, and wimp the 'attempt was le have
as/s, •as was (sweated be' the refusal efriliteilliaisia hi
attack. Cameral Venegm bast net W 600 d to .•1111trare. bat
b. received re ordefruns his Co mmittee& tibia- sr Prev
of libations acting ia cocoa with tbe Ilebilde e m 144111
toe Hose's atiwiter what *lffisiblere-bed bap doing in Spin
during two years with British arinteis submitting to' amp.
operetive of Spanish Cialmals. Under all the clraimstemee
of the remissly, his Lordsbip contended, that the emotion
could Sot paw unless the Home was prepared to return a Mote
of Thanks for the whole Campaign. 'shoat the British force
dee repel a superior force brootheby the enemy, no man
amid dispute ; yet it wits also iudispatable, that time result
of die battle 'compelled the British tromps to toll back,
wilds the enemy advanced to take possession of many od-
olommee: Ilis Lord-hip concluded an eloquent speech, by
tog the opinion winch had been advanced is the
debate, bate, namely, that coolness, energy. and va.
~tog
epeamlicient to 4;oistiluts ea able (kneed'. a 134 d

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bora a riteowirooodatiou in the Agnew of a ctlita
taw Tueane). that its was avarleities of 1
soldiers. This ass a recoorisaidatios • hielt ev
coot to palms, sal kit Lordship shrewd a btrpies that ist"
int prove • rerourosoadatiou to Aliatarrs. , ..,____'
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4rf GREY nos Anambra" his egomaniac, ill Ow •ww w
Thant to sail the owl Troop who hail fought at Ta-
-I.4lpri t but Ns Loniolap oaperaW, *litany poload it eight
ilk, a taw of ditty eilespeßod Ws to ratios ihet Vat to
W 4 Welliaittun.
The Mottoai Wfif thee pet* sad retried without a division.
T'be Roam acijotirusd to Shadtv. .

HOU,IE op commoiii.
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.11TDAY, ILK. 26.
Oa the motion of Mr. Rosa, copies were or.
dered to be laid before the House of the Xenia.
rials presented to the herds Commissioners of the
Treasury respecting the architectural and other;
improvements about the Houses of Parliament.
On the motion of the Chancellor of the &cite.
quer, it Was ordered that the Chaplain of the
House do preach a Sermon before the House, in
Ithe Church if. St. Margaret, Westminster, ore
Tuesday nett, being the Auniversary of King
Charles's Martyrdom.
On the minium of Mr. George Johnstone, an
account was ordered to be laid before the House
of the number of bills and promissory notes re.
issued, distinguishing the rates of the duties upon
them, from sth January, 1798, to the latest pe.
Irind to • Inch the sante could be made out.

Sir J. Newport brought in a Bill to prevent the
embezzlement of the Public Money by Collectors,
Receivers, Ace. Read a first tune, ordered to be
printed, and to be I.ead a scond time on Wednes-
day uext.

PRIVATE BILLS.

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Tho CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
rose, in consequence of the notice which he had
given, to propose to the House a limitation to the
period fur receiving petitions for private bills, and
fur the various stages of private bills when intro-
duced. The experience which fur some years the
House had enjoyed of the advantage of such a li-
mitation, rendered it unnecessary for him to say
any thine on the subject. Ile should therefore
confine hi nself to an explanation of the differeuce
between the proposition which he was about to
make and those which on former. elcasions he had I
submitted to the House. At the commencement
of the last Session he had promisee, the Bth of
May as the limit for the ultimate stage of a private
bill, that is, the reception of the Report. It was
his intention now to propose the 7th of May. as
that limit, being a diliereuce of only one day ie
the limit of the ultimate step. The alteration that
he had io view was to diminish the period hitherto
allow**, fur the reception of Petitions for Private
Bills, hi order to extend the subsequent stages of
those Bills, and thus to give the adverse, Rartks to
those Bills a more ample opportunity of' cumin.
ing and opposing their provisions. lie should
therefore propose three i‘esolutions, vit.."
66 That the House would not receive any Peti-
p' lions for Private Bills after Feidey, the Bth Le ebru.
I ary next. ,
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46 That the House would not receive aniurraria
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vale Bills after Monday, the 18th .day of
next. -... ...
" That. the Home would not receive.** .
ports of Private Pills after Monday, ail .Of
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May next." ~ .
it would be observed, that the mind fir'llte
reception of Private Bills wuulJ, by these Res.).
Illations, be extended a fortnight' noel the period
' for receiving Repurts of Private Bills a week be.
pod the currespoudent periods df the attleesdeue
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,
• Mr. ROSE expressed his apprehension, that the
'term proposed by his Right Hon. Friend for, the
,reception of Pelitiuns for Private Bills, would, in
some cases, be insufficient.
Thu CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
replied, that it was desirable to establish as i gene-
ral principle, that the Petitions should be preseut.l
ed within the period wipcb he had mentioned. lit
cases of peculiar difficulty, the House would, of
,course, listen to the circumstances that might be
alleged for an extension of that period, and would
determine accordingly.
The resolutions were then agreed to, and or.
dered to be printed.
REVERSIgt4 BILL.
Mr.BANXEd, finding that there were two other
sebixts of importance to be discussed by the
House that eveniug, withdrew his notice of a mo.
tion.for leave to bring in a bill to render the Re-
version Bill of last Session perpetual, in order to.
fix it for another dei—a delay to which he was the
more strongly induced,. from understanding that it
was a proposition which unfortunately was likely
to produce debate. As, however, the. subject
was one of much urgency (for the existing bill
would expire in six weeks after the commencement
;of the Session) he should not defer his moths*
lmsger than Monday next.
The CH4ISICE‘LOR of the EXCHEQUER.
Vierred„ that there were already two notices on
the Order Book fur Monday, both of wide*
'*.iiield probably excite discussion. He 'wished
Ilioreforelhat his Right Hon..rriend would. Ix on
lime subsequent day. With rtopret to. anit...sop.,
litieed urkeneyin the measure, it could scarcely 'bell
imagined, to whatever period the motion might. be.
kdelayed —even were it posterior to the expiration
1 of the existing Bill, that his Majesty's Ministers
would take any step by which Athe principle of
that 13111 might be violated. He should oppose.
the Bill to be proposed by his Right Hon. Friend,
*because be wished only tousle:6d the power which
,that Bill would go to abolish. If hit ,*tight Hon.
Friend had no objection, he would recommend
Wodoesday as the day on which be might bring
fonrard his proposition.
Mr. BANKES acceded, and Wednesday wee'
accordingly fixed for his motion.

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LORD G&MBIER.
Lord COCIMANE said, that understanding it
was the intention of his Majesty's Ministers to
propose on Monday next the Tbatika of that
House to Lewd Gambier, be felt it his duty to
Move for the previous production of the minutes
of the Court Martial which had been ktld on that
Noble Lord ; and he pledged himself to prove,
from those minutes, not only
The SfBAILEB; ototrurid tie Nee Lord.

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;Welts ble Lord wire going to give sales of a
*Oleo; it • wee irregolor to eater into any detail.
bOsrever„ it was his intention to submit a mo.
float to the novae at that time, it would be fur the
louse to detarine whether or Rot they would
raintilo the olaii which bad prevailed, of giving
proviosi noticeof such an ietintion._
Mr. PONSPOIItY observer; pet he certainly
understood that the Noble Lord mean to make an
immediate motion. The (maim, usage-of giving
notice was nut applicable in the maul ewe; for
as the Thanks were to be moved on Monday,, and
as the House was not accustomed to sit on Sate r.
day, the Noble Lord had no other opportunity of
making his motion than the present.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
declared, that if the motion of the Noble Lord
related to the production of the sentence only of
the Court Martial on Lord Gambier, he. bad no
objection whatever toil • but if it extended to the
minutes of that Court Martial, he was decidedly
of opinion, that a proposition to reconsider thu
' trial of an Officer, in a ease of life and death,
was of too much importance to be acceded to
without at least due time fur consideration.
•Mr. TIERNEY' remarked, that . the Noble
Lord had taken the earliest opportunity. that pre-
sented itself to him to make this motion, after liar.
ing been apprised that' it was the intetitiun of the
Right lion. Gentleman opposite to propose a vote
of Thanks to Lord Gambier. Ito thought the
but way would be fur that Right lion. Gentkimas
to postpone his Emotion to a flours day. As to
the sentence of the Coart-martial, he did not
,conceive that, neaccumPanied by the minutes of
evidence, it would be sufficient for the House.
That semi:ace • pronounced Lord Gambier not
guilty!, but but it did nut fellow that the minutes
of evidence might' nut chew that his Lordship
was nut entitled to the approbation. of Parha-
m:tit
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER
said, that if the Noble Lord would postpuue his
Motion until Monday, and that the House should
then think that the. Minutes of the 'Trial ought
to he produced, he would postpone his Motion,
fur Thanks. If the House should determine that
the sentence alone should be laid on the table, he
would take Cite that it should be itrimediately
fortticomiii4.
• Lord COCHRANE acquiesced in this arrange-
ment. On the production of these documinsts he
would pledge himself to
.prove, that
Thu SPA:AKER again interrupted the Noble
Lord, observing, that he understood it to be the
Wise allies house, that the Noble Lord should
not, at present, cuter into any details, but should-
coofine himself simply to a notice.
Lord COCHRANE accordingly gave notice,
that on. Monday he would more fur the produc-
tion of the Minutest of the Court-Martial on Lord
Gambier.
LIGENCES FROM TRE BOARD OF TRADF..
On the motion. of the CtiARCELLUtt of the Ez.
cueoute, the House went into the eunsideration
of the Speech of the Lords Cominissieners.
The CIIANCYLLott of the Excusouatt moved t
Resolution of the House" that a supply be grant.
olio his Majesty."
Mr. Cat:silty wished to make some observe.
ties)* on that part of the Speech which JulisLoti to
the ispply.
After an observation from the SPEAKER, with
respect to the irregularity of any discussiou on a•
general motion fur gra,utiug a, supply to his Ms.
iClity,
Mr. CILEEVEY proceeded. He requested the
indulgence of the house fur a shirt period, while
he proposed some questions to the Geutlemen
opposite. The first passage of the speech on
which he was anxious to remark, was that in
which the country was congratulated on the
flourishing state of the revenues; a state nhich
was ascribed to the system of licences, than which
no instrument in the hands of Government could
in his opinion be more destructive to the general
interests. It was well known alto that
:foreign
products were obtained not by the exchange for
Ithem of home commodities, but by the exportation
of bullion; an exportation so considerable as to
occasion the most alarming deficiency in the
general circulation of specie. The profit on the
exportation of gold amounted to 32 per cent. TM
House must perceive that this system would lead to.
the.depreciation of paper, and ultimately to as.
tional ruin, Was this- system to be euntinued.
Honourable Baronet. had last night. a.:vertedto '
the omission in the Speech of all mention of India t
an *missies as surprising to him as it was to that
Honourable Baronet. • That immense nseuibee.of,
the'Empire, which prodareed a revenue of fifleutt
millidns, had nut been heard of in .that Male
these four years. Hs understood, however, that
was in the contemplation of the Company to,
apply to Parliantootiduring the present Session,
=fora loan of two millions. Was that true I lie•
:bad also heard that. it. was to contemplation to
rAdime the renewal of lb° Compeer*, Charter.
eed If that proposition wore utit mode during
the present Session,, the Charter would ..be virhtl
,wily abandoned, is ihe Act notice must be
'giros of suck an loasstion on the pat et the Di.
rectors by March neat. He wished for information
on (his subject, which was of the utmost import.
anee, especially when it was considered that the
Directors attributed all their misfortunes to Lord
Wellesley, wko was now a principal
_Monitor Uf
Cabinet.

Mr. ROSE, In reply to the questions of the
Hon. Gentloots respecting the Grade Licveces,
observed, that they were adopted to opp,,se the
,feppressive measures of a person at the head of the
'Glvernment of France. The Hon. Gently nian
had asserted that we had no commerce, and that we
paid for every thing in billion. This was a com-
plete mi.-statement. The fact was, that the ex.
'portition of home manufactures was greater by
millions than derang any former year. lie admitted
however that the state of exchange Wei against us;
hot if he were to enter into any explanation on
this subject, it would necessarily lead him into
i'morneitensive details thah it was advisable to offer
tti the House on the prieent occasion. When the
House should go into.; Committee on the subject,
be plcdptt laimsol( to prove the accuracy of his

stalementi. The Hon. Gentleman ekedier
hs the distribution of licences. lie could al
that he had never beard of any abuses, 14;1170
the utmost pains had been taken to peeve% 44,
occurrence.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQub
in addition to what bad been said by bie
Hon. Friend on the subject of licences, stabil'
question to be, whether in the present ek:
stances of the world, it was, or was not sleet:
to meet by that system the inconveniences. 0i,7,
the system of the enemy occasioned. If the li
Gentleman would bripg this -subject 'fairly he
the House, he would And it difficult to prove::
negative of this question. The trade of
Britain during the last year, was unexamplec4
only in the history of this country, but ie the Ilk
tory of the world. Ho would repeat what heiu
stated oa Tuesday night, namely, that tkeeeniZ
exclusive of bullion, exceeded by seven imilv2
the most prosperous antecedent year of pottee;;;;
by ten millions the most prosperous aptert
Fear of war. The lion. Gentleman walla
therefore to prove, that a system Rader 1,4
the trade of Great Britain bad increased to a ifti
more than the bulk to which it had ever herds.
fore arrived, was a system which Parliament eito
to bo called upoq immediately to termieate. Wi4
respect to the abuses hinted at by the
Gentlemen, in the granting at lipeaces, be wiski
that he had communicated his knowledge of doli
abuses to the Board whence the licences pros
persuaded at the iluneurable Gentleinan esexii
I (as he did not imagine that he imputed to tie
Board a connivance in those 'beset) that sad
formation would have been received with gesteril
acknowledgement. With respect to what kg
fallen from the honourable Gentleman, as see,
intention of proposing pecuniary assist.*** k
the Earl, India Company, this was nut the pet
fur offering any opiulon on the subject..-ne
the result of the, labours of the. Committee
East India Affairs, is Mich he supposed would Ss
received, the Ilona. world -judge of the ph:quiet/
of affording or withholding such assistance. %T
respect to the Charter, the Honourable Gendenu
well knew that any pooposstion on that subject

must originate not with Governineutstat
East Ludes Company thesetselves.
Mr. TIER NE Vasserted, that the great casual
the apparent increase of trade during the last jest,
Was the capricious ieittietionS wheels preteututil4s
merchants from importing and exporting at pimps
and the .revulsion whicn resulted from the riot
stoppage of theperts. It was too much thatGo,
verument should take credit to theutselves fur seta.
sere. which had not produced the effects ascribei ts
them. 'With respect to had been said of abases
in the graisting of licences, he did nut mean tulles
' that gross corruption and partiality bad taken phut
but that. it might hate taken place. Suppose, fee
iustarice (hat under this new-fangled system
micas to trade to a certain port werogranted fors
week, and then suddenly stopped, might not
a person who had obtained a licence during that
period get a valuable cilnsisleratiou for it ? Tes
fact was, that this had been done;, and that •
licence of the tort which he had been describel
bad actually been sold fora thousand pounds,
Did lie memo to charge the Board of Trask,
or the bight Hon. Gentlemets opposites who irsa
a ptineepal Member of that House,: with any t.ir.
rapt view in this transaction,/ Certainly not. S.)
however it might possiltiy rs.sult from partial ins.
, tires. Evry body knew that he who has some.
thing to give wab apt to get something in return.
IV Imo a vote in the House of Cumulous became
of great value, it was nut easy to say how it mina
be purchased, or what inducement might be held
out to an Individual to sit up fur al few hours
longer than usual, in order to give his support to
Governinent. Without intending to insinuate that
the Right lissioursble Gentleman opposite hod
made such a use of the system of licences as that
which he had been describing, he thought it bat
just, when its excellence was so much vaunted,
to touch upon a few of the injurious connive:ace
to which It might perchance lead.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said that he bad been Completely misunderstood by
the lion. Gentleman, if he supposed that he had
represented the mode of trading by liceuces as the
most advantageops and delectable. that could IN
devises'. OW the contrary he had stated that it
was a most objectionable mode, and one to which
Gultefilltlellt could be reconciled only by the se.
cessity of the case. Ndr bad he taken pride to
himself fur bringing forward measeres productive
of suck advantage to the trade of the country.,
He had merely declared, that the Hon. Gentle.
man would hod it difficult, under the etistsug cir.
cumstauces, to persuade the blouse that the pre-
sent system ought to be abolished.
Mr. ROSE concurred in the statement of bit
Right Hon. Friend, that a systeM of licences wet
a system nut of choice, bat of necessity: 'fhb,
came: had been granted only to ports with which
trade was precluded by. other` means. He readily
admitted the possibilitY of tbe system being lied
for the purposes of partiality, and this was one fir
its chief evils ; but he distinctly and positively de-
clared, that the politlell conduct and principle's"(
any individual .had never iis the slightest Jeri
mingled itsult uith the deliberations of the &AM
of Trade, as to the propriety of graining any se
the ipplieetiees that bad been MAC to thew
That corrupt views could not possibly exist was
evident from the fact, that in cases where it had
been determined to grant licences to a certain port,
those licences had been grautetl invariably wititoet
diiiiiiiction of persona.
Mr. I'OISON BY said, that the reason dour
trade haves% flourished in the course of last yen
was, that our relations with America had been m-
otored-fur a short lime, and facilities. were afforda
for our trade Ott the Continent, by the employ.
ment which the A milieu war fureished for the et-
teolion of France.
Mr. STEPHENS entered into a defence of the
Orders in Osuneil, from which alone, be conies&
al,.tho prosperity of our trade during the last yell
had arisen, and rejoiced to think that any vote he
had ever given should have led to such an inera
ment of the coMatefCe of the tattoo as NOM Nil•
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