The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-11-30 00:00:00

THI4-B'PkrESMAiI.

mere mischievous, than large amemblies of the pee.
ph out of their ewe aeighhierhood ; and loiterer
legally they might be met together, silll that thief
,hedluenllya tendeuy to distract Indastry from its
Zevasions, tied aid le the sagmatioa of these
ePrills of which they romplailed." No ono, confirmed
the Noble Lord (Castlereagh), who wished to
protect sad sot destroy the chit and political testi-
Woes of the atestry, could differ with that Noble
end Learned Lord en the position he had so well
Noted ; sad it would be also necessary to make the
Miletieg eat of one's proper parish,. inisdesimmeei.
There was me die/Suitt...la his Majesty's Mielstms
Its restrict the right of Mestisg ; but Meetings such
es bad lately taken place were rather a meiotic* and
dostrestiee of the good of the people, than foP deli.
beratioe. Another power should also be ghee to
the Megisarstra, in order to prevent sisseltswiesi
Meatiest on the soma day. Six days' Notice of the
Wended Muting should beeves to the Magistrates;
in two days after, the Magistrate was to signify the
place and time at which it shield be held, bat in se
case should he delay rotors's' his answer for • leo&
period than four days. So mach with respect le
lameltaoss Meetings, which, le his view of the case,
weeld destroy the efforts of Meerut orators, 'luso
only object was to destroy every this( which motet.
bated to t use wag nteeaaee of the jest rights sad lOW**
of the people. Could last be called deliberative he
England, which is Franco every one knew to be
the foresioner of that blood and anarchy which math.
ed the progress of that dreadful time?--Sula a
clause world be entities mere thee declaratory
of the principle already recognised in all the omitting
laws epee the subject. A clause would apply to oil
Meetings, whether of Ceentim, Corporations, Of
Parishes; for it was to be hammed, that a Meeting
was lately held of a large and pipets.. county, which
had been disgraced by all the badges of revelation,
sod all the symbols of ndicalism. There was an-
other point en this branch of the subject which be
did not seen to istredice into the handed Bill epee
this subject, namely, as to the wise. who might at.
lend ties.—[Deer, Aeon, liefer9—lt was wily in
the worst part of the Preece Itevolatioe that
Women weeded their bloody Meetiegs • it was
Italy et the limo that saucily and cruelty were
pushed le their etosost height, that. the hiood.bounds
of tie day thought of remelting their strength from
the brothel and the stew. It was ealy from the net.
casts if society that woman, thee is Frasce, could be
dragged forth to play these perish, that horrid drama.
So far he had stated these:oral effects of the Bill he
=ate propose for the pretentious of Seditioes
It was directed to prevent all pablic de.
Ighstalless from being held, except in the respeciks
lverish.. of these who should signify to the blogistute
their &pulite° to have a Meeting called. No Med.,
les 'Weld be alluded eacept by residents of their
Iva. perishes, aid ail those who attended thole,
tleirleveletiooary symbols, or signs drafts from the
tragedy ef the French Revolution, shoeld be liable
to arida punishment. The Magistrates were lobe
/empowered is seise all such individuals SO WOO.
inside& sod Isere them takes iminedistsly free
the place of asostieg. le order also le reader
this mousers effectast, it would be further escusery
to enable the Magistrates to forbid all strangers from

lea _ properties,. With respect deg pretest, or take any part is the proceedings of
Moeda" It would be seemed to make the assembly. Nu step, however, was to be token
the dbliectioo of bellow senesce sod bellow perms. agates' meager' happening to be at the pleas of
Stan, the object of the Meeting meat be lamked to, meeting by chum" or curiosity, bet he intended to
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if they melted totter, even those' no MAI/ be peopose, that otter proclamation being made for
Oink, the Magistrates most haterfere, to protect maestro to withdraw, and their not immediately
kis Majesty's peeeeeble sod industrious subjects.— complying, the Meeting should be dispersed, es We-
lt wet far from his wish to my any thing suiting to ell and disorderly. It was here, boort'', right for
Me Learned Gelation** on the other side ; bet, in him to etre, that strangers Not withdrawing, or 111
bildition to what bad been editenced by the Croon persons remaining together after proclamation being
Lawyers, be thought he had • right to consider the made for the Meetieg to disperse, would rot be
Whoa of some of the Legel Gentlemen no the Lobe; followed with the punishment of death.—LL•asil
AM as a reef of their coecernmee in the doctrine god continued cries of Ilea, hoar :j—Tibet state.
Iwo which he eat conteading. Ile did not wish to sent seemed to be received aids SOSO lorries,
attribute opinions le Condom's which they did one especially by a Gallia General opposite (whom
entertain. bet be eedireleorl one Learned G. tide. care" we did not heat); bet If he were ampesintedi
eta on the other side le pronounce upon the Me. with the Act Lf 1817, he would find it conteleed a
gf IbeN Meetings, end twill 99999 Minifteet clause that sent ouch farther than any he (Lord C.)
add Maeistedes for sot pretesting those which have sow proposed. lie only 'pleaded the sleet* of
Mere takes place, penicillin', that is Smithfield.— which be bail spoken to be made a (tupelo!. feleue,l
10th respect this to the messeree which it would be bet not of death. 11. bed sow opened I. the llmns
beiessery to whop to potent three ismetteires meet. hit views as to larneltuary Meetings, sod would mem
loge, he bossed to Awry', that nothing that did net seed to the second breach of the subject—to Training'
minis nelsbore wield answer ON purpose amain sod Drilling for reeolethanary or other illegal per..
dais/ this tiny would not de troy deliberadon, be. pose'. Such training and drilling was totally abhor.
canes the plan recently adopted bad effeeteally de. rent to every principle of the Constitutiee. The
Steered all eleliboakien. Ile acknowledged the right ball be intended to seined that everting would
of he people to essesbly, and I. peiitintr, without treat all Meetings where previous training or drill-
ing! other restrietioe then • tket wide* She eafelymf. log might base takes place, or otiosity did
Militate, and tbo•emmoity of Individeels reqhlted, take place, whether with or without antis, bet
It has far from his isteetiento ifiterfere with the old with certain military evolatioes, as illegal. A
established legal Musings of this covet:band mbielat distinction between, would be undo between the
till modern times, sees thought sollicimat for every driller math* drilled ; and though it had boon said
rpm of palWic and iodieideei liberty ; to each that several old soldiers were engaged le sorb Illegal
Barmier be wished le give oaree greeter Utilities, practices, to their credit he coed say, that, except
If liberty amid ens be made reconcilable sitlithe its one •r two Instances, their conduct bed bees of
puce of the hiltd, sod the %defy of iedividvais, liber. die Most exemplary description. The pookhoseat for
ti would soon be Inst. He proposed a local and that steam was not to be ermined to lete audimpti-
notamical limit to be per to public Meetings.— noment, bet to be increased into traesfeertatlon, at
They were told, that Ibe scandal of all military die discretion of the Coed before whom an flooding
Isterfonen with Public ggeerbrie new be pre. party might be tried. 'Medalled were of to be liable
wand, het sub an intercoms, mold only he loony greater punishment titan Aneend imprisonment,
per/anted by se gesetbalywg the Meeting le considering Ibis to be less offending than the drillers.
plate end Is eembwrs as to bring them within Th'e massefatnering districts had long bed easy means
the le/waft of the Civil authority. That win** of precutting them, and in order to obviate the
eel, reedy to king Moorniems el the people back to danger that might molt from their improper use, the
IN Aims of beoreere eissessispo. 1b.,. was so Magistrates •VtO td be empowered to *Kiel for and
subject es shish the megiererree would be smuts. seise all arms likely to be employed to the disturb-
mere ereberreeng, than in deciding whet us. a once of the public peso*. It • °old now be nee of
bees:sbooM or should set be allowed to moot loge- the sensor*, proposed to remedy this tells and more
lber. And therefore it was sweet to be provided, nearly to bring all trials back to the regulations by
*et, with the escamtioe of County or Corporation which the trials for g Minces wet. determined.
Ileetings, or Meetings felled by a majority of s This was a desideratum which heel lone been
(heed hwy,
eider ihe unction of ice oasis. coveted, and to ibis the attention of his Majesty's
other Meetings coo,' only be Convened Government bad been dimmed for a considerable time.
allot a notice for a certain number of days before. The long delay between the Autumn and spring As.
bend, glean lee Magistrate, awl the Meeting in be state, must have been felt as a considerable public
held is the parish of the itequisitionists, and that grievance, and every effort would be made Ira have a
place in which they could not only best delibe. third Anises and Gael I)eiivery more *enmity af.
mitt, her deliberate with the greatest safety to forded. No doubt it would have been competent to
Ile piece and tranquillity of the commettity. the Croon to send down a Special Commission '
The Noble Lord bore read an iletroct from those places where treasonable occurrences
II orient publication of Lord Erskine's, in which that place : bet his Majesty's Mioisters thought
Lord observed, ekes speaking of terminals', savour too meth of as es peat facto
IN 64 Thai holding retied the peoples right against the accused, if they bad adeised
In ossemble p sly for the redress of grievance., ; Aside • poetess the daegroserising fir
b. r.lt se dilculty in stating that nothing could be of the public rem It we: impossible for

map to withstood the sass of e►deetiet resooniug of.
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firierl to them is Me sheep and 'liner poblicstions of
the times. The adrantsge of a tree press, be hal on
iodised to deny ; bit osiers its freedom amid be;
made compatible with the safety of the people sod
the prnerntioa of the pablic inensillity. it wool/
prove as dreadful a curse, as its oboes had bees N
souls daiignated a Liming. If every vied wee mei
made to check its abet's, tha pablis mind would rani
settle dews to ladling or oentwatamet. Nothing
tint be had to propose world p to pretest soy man
ham the philander, of his opialoss, or be Is the
eaten of • Coosorship ow the Plllllo.—lle merely
istendod to de the Preis a WOO, to cat olrtrom
that which might be versed the legitimate Pres% alt
that roiliest's' bend, that degraded mod disgraced it.
The regular News, spun were materially lajored by
that class of pestilent's' peblicatioss to which he bed
alluded. Thochemisese of than papers enabled them
to obtain a.dangerass drcelatios,--ths people who
conducted them had so character, sad is properties,
as the poises was cheaply to be bad, did the ialate-
ated people quit the mon largely of their desolat-
ing beverage. By the late Steep An, all Naos.
papers paid a duty es the papers, sacithisa of
that paid for each therthemest. Pamphlets of a
metals do...riffles were else subject In a trivial defy.
gat proposed, the., that p•sphins, trewspopen, and
ell other papers, on naming tato sheets, costais.
log or trestle/ of noes, Oleg pehlic occorreaces, et
'fling cements epos tinier le shoot, that all poll.
tint pobileatioss shoreld be deemed as newspapers,
sad he liable to all those laws 'Melt they bed for a
length of lime as fraedelostly invaded. That would
twesone the more nepotist*, publication hen betas
beat est of circelatios, which, from the respectability
of the preprietses. sod the ntorat and eapeeditsr• of
their establisheants, afforded some 'manatee for the
respectability of their cession. Seale eras the Arm
resent's, he 'abraded reepeetieg the Press; sad the
wend would be formed es a prlaciple already re.
;Mailed by the laws which treated es that white....
He had already deduced that the seine of no pub.
fisher should be allied to the paper, is owlet to sake
surnabis to jowls", le case of its violation.—
;To that he had **thin ..w to add, bet merely
that that provision should not he reetlered segatory.
Hs wished the region's* pribilisher of nay News-
paper to he really respaisible, wherein the law ni-
trifies web registry of the publisher would be little
else has a dead letter. Seth was the mend pro.
vision; mad a third, as absehrtaly emissary lo gin
elect to the two forever, would he, to impose a mo.
donne porosity en all persons he eking or sdlissgg thus.
ssallpublications, if sot duty rusesped. Is ddMMa
to ordinary posi•baseat for a seemed steno cow
witted after a coseiction, It would be repined tan.
ibis the Coen to tramped the Winkel oho Amnia
be fisesd Frilly, either fret seta pets, or for a?, for.
tint period that sight be deemed osesenel. noble
gone threegh the in piste he bad orirsally pus.
posed to draw the 'pestles of the Hoeft to, he abash&
set trespass ioniser on their Westin. His Majesty's
Gavoramest felt it socessery to stresgtheo the heals
of the Magistrates is preterite the Coedite's hem
the dads; and omilessised at that mess seta.
ell epee to subvert N. The laws nista ten se*
reposed were directed driest the alone, en to le.
Ole. Wires they looked Wind mad at he. when
they considiteJ their pretest esparalleted sande
of grsedeer, sad of greaten. abroad, and the
efforts that won making at home to disturb • as&
injere the peace mad insirillity of the seenry,
It behoved them to mate a defeats atoned the
Coestitstion, mod to raise sp a barrier sliest the
inroads of dissfectise sea rebellion. How ley
solid they penile the prosperity sad \aprons or
the country to be disturbed sad dimisished by is.
creasing alarm ? How ling would they aster thess
dilculties to walk abroad before them, aid yet close
their eyes to their empiteds aid dealer ? They had
loss ere that 'onned the spades that had boss
crested by temporary Bills. Gayland, thereforrq;
that these Bills would toed net to diminish bit to
'trendies and protect Manly, be meld sot maid.;
pate a ressonahlo carcase to their ormicamast. The
Noble Lord thee ansoosced his Weans of briers,
its the Bill restrktiag trailing wad drilling na fatten
onsition, and afterwards moved for Issue to Wag in
• Bill for the more electeally revealing Seditiousl
Menisgs.
Mr. 'TIERNEY said, whim he same dews bear
House that day , he bad signs most distant
as to many of the polish es which the I=4llBe=
had dwelt the meet. Its ass dews with a aeons
disparities to liens calmly and diapessiessiely to ell
that should he laid dews by the Nob!. Lord. Bet
after what be had hoard be should Del he jestilin if
ha did not trouble the Hoses with a feat sad a very
few olisertations. The Noble Lerd ha.l said that we;
on this aids of the House wen ale spied es to those
parts of the Address. ethic's related to teditlose Most.
Jags sad pablicstioes. The Noble Lord bad so
authority for statiog this. It was quite escomery
not the Noble Lord .should he seeded eseegh set
to impute to hie oppeoseste sestiments neither
warranted by their *pooches sot the amendment.
He was she prepared to my that there wee so ease
reqoiring bow laws and Pew seseturests—but this be
would say, that the Hone of Commons rink' sot
do its ditty if it cesseNted to say such laws sea
enactments without a necessity bong made set for
them. Hs diraisil such a sew had boys yse undo est
for jestifilag the measures ern proposed. All that
they had yet stated to them was the seteristy of en.
tats proceeding. ; bet the /rands for the motives sod
the nom of such pronedisgs coeld net be gathered
bout the Paper* comm•lficated by his Royal Hilliness
In the Howse. lead Its scald say. teat a ewe
garbled statement was never !sill beton the
Bono. The Noble Lord had told them that ill this
country, wills a foe eaceptioss, were weed—that all
the agricultural pspolatioa was soserd--and that over
in the diistfochad district' the erns at the people sirs
well intentinsed and prepared to stand by the law,
Th. Noble Lord bed told thew farther. shat she lo-
wed teed' of the cesetry ins le *spoil a conlitlon
as peak aid at to the Union Inds, titers was
- • divan

imam anu apron ass. IP I'm sovv•••••6•10., rea.•• -
ri'neid.r.lll. ;labile well infentinaed sod prepared to stand by tiro law, the Lonsti,edea from- destroches. s soigne
old be wide to have a Th. Noble Lord bad fold thew farther, that the le- ergo* miosioly, bat it was mime proper on
.ry mire generally af. !penal Dodo of the errantry lets in *need a condition taw presets( (Session to view it is its obeli.,
are been cnrapeteot to as possible, aid at to the foreign erode, titre yes wens*, of s curb sod ritstriction ea public
pedal Commission to within is be apprehended, weeps from this disfrfrs gbak esengio of Coastigaik.ma rights,
*curtain:es had token in Anmsciatr;. that all per seolotoctoreo had a vest ow which the Noble Lord mood to vi-w
sten thought it *mid the continent, sod that these was no disowns b the jotainegy.—(lleorl)—To Obi& end, as Nth* evw
most fart. tromactioo coootry,eacept from the pearlier circessitoen !Stale, stems Was to bit iotrodosod.—(fleor, hear!)—
I adrised that pessary. which America laboored. When' there votes& many nil ebiectimo sow was, that 'Whom solicienf mound
sarising frnotthe obese I 'mums for content, se missy swans of happiness (fit An kills were mot Mbe legal or temp-rail t,
total, lot the toted of oyes to et, how hoppooted it that the Counted*, as entail sow fides less to be loliou