The Statesman.
London, England, 1814-05-03 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN

much room for negotiation. According to the Treaty
between this country aid Sweden, we were bound tb-
assist Sweden iu obtaining the cession of Norway,
but It was to be done with " every possible regard
to the harmony and happiness' of that country;
starving a nation, however, was not one of the most
approved modes of producing happiness.—[Hen`,
hear!]—He concluded by moving, first, for an Ac-
count of all the sums of money that had been ad-
vanced to Sweden since the signature of the Treaty
between that country and England-on the 3d of
March, 1813.
Mr. HORNER, was desirous of asking a question
of the Right Honourable Gentleman. He enderstood
we were at peace with Denmark, and yet, if he had
not been misinformed, orders had been issued to the
Beard of Transports to detain the *Danish prisoners
of war. Ile wished to know if this iutelligeucries
correct ?
The'CIIANCELLOR of the EXCIIIEQUERt.in
reply, observed that, with regard irs eke Motiserbf
the Hon. Member for the production of Papers, he
was not aware that there existed any objection to
laying there before the House. In answer to a ques..
don that had been asked, as to whether any nego-
, ciations were carrying ou about Norway, he had no
difficulty in stating that negotiations were still pearl-
' lug. The Treaty with Denmark had dot been sub-
mitted to Parliament, because the ratifications were
not yet exchanged. With regard to the Danish pri-
soners of war, he could inform the House the e&
person had arrived in this country, commissionedy
the Danish Government to regulate their exchange.
Mr. WHITBREAD said, he was happy to hear
from the Right lion. Gentleman, that negociatioes
were still carrying on respecting Norway. He was
happy, not for Norway as a power, but for Norway
as a people. The case of Norway, he believed, was
.not much understood in this country; it•was one,
.however, worthy of the most serious and solemn
.consideration. They had been told that the ratifies-
1. lions of the Treaty between England and Denmark
had not yet been exchstoged, but they hed.not been
told why. For himself, he found it difficult to
imagine a reason, when he refiected on the distance
between the two countries. Not only, however,
were the ratifications unexchanged, but the treaty
had not even found its way into the usual channels
of intelligence in this country—he meant the daily
jouruals. lie had himself been utterly ignorant of
its stipulations, till' very lately that a copy, of it
passed into his hands; and upon examining them, he
found the second article provided Oita ." all prisoners.
I of war should be given up cn inane immediately after
the ratification." Here then was the proper explana-
tioe, which the Rt. lion. Gentleman might havegiven
in Inky to the question that had- been put respecting
the Daaiislf prisoners; but instead of• this, they were
told that a person had arrived from Denmark, with
-powers to concert the return of those prisoners.—
Wire they to understand that a sort of Vdeffed
been pot upon the exchange of them by the Court of
Denmark, or was there to be a distinction made be-
twee* Danish, and- Norwegiau prisoners, and wad the
Cosiffsitieury,corne over to separate the one from the
other :—By another article of the treaty it was sti-
pulated that recourse was not to be had to force, for
effecting the annexation of Norway to Sweden,
nnless the Court of Denmark should not join
the Northern Alliance. Really, therefore, look-
, lug at the present situation of things, at a moment
when we are applauding the magnanimity of the Ai.-
lied Powers, in every other transaction, and when
we are rejoicing in the effects of that wise, moderate,
and liberal policy, which they . hare adopted, it is
melancholy to think that so bright a scene should be
clouded, that the lustre of such achievements should
be tarnished by a spot like this: that we should be
engaged to starve a nation into, submission to Swe-
den, whom, as a people, they detest, and whom
they are resolved to resist to the last extremity. If, '
ilaccording to the Treaty between this country and
Sweden, we are bound to accomplish the cession at
lieorway, and if the Norwegians must be transferred
like sheep, from one master to another, surely, by
the official and solemn surrender made by the Dre.
nish Government that end had been accomplished,
and they had now, in fact, become the subjects of
Sweden. The question then resolved itself into this,
whether the House would sanction the Government
of this country in aiding Sweden to starve a people
into submission
,to her power and rule, they having,
in fact, been trattsf.,rred, as far as it was in the power
of Denmark to make the transfer. When all the Pipers
that would be moved for should be laid before them, it
would then be seen whether the stipulations so entered
;into by Sweden had been so performed by her as to
call upon England for what she was now doing, in co..
operating to produce a measure so detestabese He
should be most happy to learn that the negociatiorss
now pending had rendered it unnecessary. When
the Swedish Commissioners entered Norway, their
I first demand was, that arms, ammunition, and for-
tresses should be surrendered. This demand was in-
stantly resisted. He knew it had been said, that
this resistance was the act of a single individual, who
I was intriguing to secure the possession of Norway
to himself, but that the people of Norway were
universally . desirous of -- being -incerporitted -with
Sweden, and taken under her protection. From
all the enquiry, however, that be had made, and
from all the information produced by that enquiry,
the inhabitants of Nerway, a patient, brave, and
enterprising people, were resolved, as one marl, to
sacrifice their lives in the struggle, rather than submit.l
This sentiment pervaded every part of the country,
from nortb to south, and the peasantry had already
armed, and were su tiering the most dreadful privations.
They were determined that Norway should become
a desert rather than they would submit tn the Swe-
dish yoke. And under whose auspices was all this
carried on ? (hider those of a great Captain who had
been elected to the high situation which he occupied;
and who ha vlog thus owed his elevation to the choice
of a people, entered into a conrpact with ether Mrr.
tionr. to &liver to him another people who bad *o
choice with respect to their Government.—Eitenr,
hear r —He hoped, for the sake of humanity, for
the sake of that great person who had aeititered'io
much for the deliverance of Europe, for tite.:berasee

No answer was returned, and the miiiiatt
agreed to. • "
Mr. WYNNE then moved for a return of the
number of troops brought into the field by Sweden
in the bite campaign. '
Mr. WHITBREAD took the opportunity in or.
der to show that 'Norway had been ceded by Den-
mark, to reed the 10th article of the 'treaty, signed
Feb. 14, between Great Britain and. Denmark, in
which his Britannic Majesty declares, that seeing
Denmark had fulfilled the engagement into which,
she had entered, to cede Norway to Sweden, he on
his part engaged, on the conclusion' or pace to use
his influence with the other Allied Powers to procure
for Denmark an indemnity for that cession.
The motion was then agreed to, as were also sub-
sequent motions for a copy of the conditions of the
surrender to, Sweden of the Island of Guadaloupe,
and copies of all orders relative to the blockade of
the coast of Norway.

sINKINO rust).
Mr. GH.ENFELL gave notice that he would to-
morrow make a motion relative to the Sinking Fund.

On the motion of Mr. ROSE the Correspondence
between the Board of Excise nod the Printer's of the
Universities in Scotland respecting the drawbacks on
Paper; Its also any proceedings of the Treasury
thereon, were ordered to be-laid before the House.
On the motion of Mr. GRENFELL an account
was ordered to be laid before the House of the clean-
tity of copper imported and exported in the fait year.
Mr. HORNER brought up the Report of the
Simple Contract Debt Bill. The amendments were
agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be read a
third tiara on Wednesday.

COLONIAL OFFICES Rtt.r..
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day for the third rending of
the Colonial Offices Bill, with a view to its postpone-
ment.

Mr. WHITBREAD expressed his satisfaction that
the third reading of this Bill was to he deferred. He
wished the Right Hon. Gentleman, before the third
reading of the Bill, to ascertain whether the Ciril Go-
vernor of Upper Canada had not been absent from biQ
post for two years, still retaining all the elolument
of that office.

The Order of the Day was then read, and •
'l'he CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER
proposed to postpone the third reading until 'Thurs-
day ; but at the suggestion of
• Mr. BROWN, who said, that Friday was the day
4041tielt it had Welt understood the third reacting of
i4lie Bill wits 44 beitestponed, the existing order was
sisatelY dischargedOsaid no new day vas fixed.
The Corrtrptiaw-ot Blood • and the High
Treettoa Penleitissilia Bill, were Mita third time anti
; :I fVf •
'44)" Wilt, Report' at the Chitgy :Ptituittitestaitl was taken
isiea•farther considerattotil 4111141 titter 4 60 Ili troiluction
airla Tittie q of 14* elttottivaito.:ttivensliihents by Mi.

of this country, for, the honour of Govereaseftt,
whose steps with ►expect to foreign "wisdom'
from a certain period been most- Nippy to. appletedi,
that Mioisters would be able to extricate ,tiewideltesei
item the clillicttitieJ in. which :hey seeilto inlottattakil

theflebject ; and if net, he hoped he should be able
t*.persteade.the Hops' of Commons, On an &amine-
don and comparison of the stipulations of the differ.
ens treaties, thdttlie 'Government and the country
were in no way bound to be the abettors of this most(
disgraceful attempt. At present he would not fur-
ther trouble the House. Be should be very glad
to hear from the Right Honourable Gentleman,
why the Danish Treaty had not been ratified, and '
whether any Commissioner had been sent from Den-
mark to make a selection between the Danish and.
Norwegian prisoners, in order that the one might be "
retained and the other set at liberty. Before he sat
'down he begged to recap the attention of the House
to the debate on the Swedish Treaty last year, in the Before hf.s.k,ur t4e,trICE.CHANCELLO2;
.course of which, a Right lion. Gentleman, whom TUll ATTORNEY-GENERAL V. RUFSELL.
he did not then see in his place, asked whether the This was an information filed by his Majesty's At,
terms of it were to be interpreted into a guarautee of - totney-General, against the Defendant, who w
the possession of Norway to Sweden ? The answer trustee to a charity, that he let to himself a ewes"
-
was, no; and more than that, a Noble Lord, in i , parcel of land in the year 1776; for 30 years, Intl:
remarkable mode of expression, observed, that the rate of 481. a year: the information charged that the
Right Honourable Gentleman who put the question land was worth much moret and prayed an accoins
oughtto be better disciplined in diplomatic terms, to be taken before the Master.
than to suppose that the Treaty could be interpreted • Mr. LEACH contended that the Plaintiff, as trove,
into such a guarantee. The fact was, that no tie to the charity, had not the right to let the premises
existed by which the country was bound, or which . to himself, and that he could not be at the one time
called Upon the House to sanction the publication in Lessor and Lessee.
the Gazette of Saturday last. - ; Sir SAMUEL ROMIT.LY said he was no advocate for
The CHANCELLOR of the . EXCHEQUER, a trustee of a charity being both Lessor and Lessee-
,
observed, that it could not be eapected he should be but he trusted that his Hosoer would consider hew
prepared to answer all the questions that had been tardy the other party had bees in making the alto.
put to him. With respect to the,treaty with Sweden it cation, as it was only at the end of 44 years they had
Was one which last year had received the approba.:4sound out the grievance, and after 16 years of the
tion of Parliament. The House would recollect that ;lease had expired. ,
the treaty between Russia and Sweden was the key. ti Mr. Leaco replied. .. -,-,ttr . ..
stone of that glorious confederacy by which such I His Honour the Vice.Criancer.tna said lie weed
signal benefits to Europe had been achieved. For - read the evidence, and give his °pima° uon a future
our part, we had done nothing in the course of the - day.
whole of the proceedings, but in the strictest concert ; His Honotma then sat for two hours afterwards
;with our Allies, and whick we had not been timid. ..and although there were eleven other causes on the
mously called on by them to do. It was perfectly paper, there was not a single Counsel in attendance,
true that we had not engaged to guarantee Norway IISP'
to Sweden, after the cession of it by Denmark ; but COURT OF KING'S 'BENCH, MAY 2.
that cession had not taken place. It would be im. INSOLVENT IMMO:
;Several Insolvent Debtors were brought up this
proper for him to- go more particularly into tht
mnning, anti discharged. Among others, a man in
subject at present, but he desired that the House
would suspend their judgement upon it, until the custody at the suit of a Plaintiff, named Sermon,
Whole case came before them. The lion. Gentleman took the usual oath, and the crier of the Court three
opposite had been greatly misinformed. It was by , different times called on the Plaintiff to come forth
no means true, that frOm one, end of Norway to the ' and show cause why he should not be discharged.
other there existed a spirit of resistance to the Swedish t: No person appearing, the Mfendant was pa
Government. It was equally unfounded that tto H.; flounced discharged. An Attorney's Clerk, who
beral offer had been made to Norway on her annex- had been standing by the debtor all the time, knew.
ation to. Sweden. On time contrary, a moregenerous ; diately started forward, and tendered him his groats
offer had been made than in any other case of cession i with a note, which was to operate as a detainer.
(bat had occurred ht the history of I:0 world. With : The man, however, asserted that he had been dis-
respect to the causes that had led .to the rejection of ' charged, and refused to Accept either the groats or
this offer, the present was not the pro* time to the note.
The Clerk then applied to- ...
communicate them to Purliament. As to the L. Sir Simon Le Blanc, the
CoMmissioners, he • was not 'aware thefaitY ellieci-! sitting Judge, and statesk, that he was not aware
from Danmark, with such 'air object a-that ascribed that it, was necessary to•delise. the note before the
to him, was in the country.
• 1 , Plaintiff bad been called a third time, and bad neg.
Mr. WHITBREAD 'eked; Whether the Offer ors tested to comply with the , usual ("lII.' I" was is
constitution, or of ' a partiCipaifon in" the gylish Coli,.
_1 N.Jkoifaver. ;mid- hoped his lordship would per.
Constitution (which the Right Hon. Gentlemen had Enit won ld fray the groats; awl deliver his not, the.;
chosen to characterise as the most liberal offer that , • sirlimoN Lr IlLs<xc aniti,lthe man had been re•
had ever been made to a nation in thebistory of the 0"V discharged, and ao he Had keard.the Plaintiff
World) was nor preceded by a demand to the Norwe- ; called three several, dome, and did not answer, he
gians to deliver up their fortresses and arms? He
would also i .--
-ask, could not help him.
if, in a 'c',Osontif Pessesied `fit not :* ' Tilt' hitoter .Loft 4 ..Dort 11'. high '0641 tad
score than 7 or 800.000, or at most under a million : much elated at Aitrusgrrotr MAIMrt froorthe gripe. of
of inhabitants, 3U or 40,000 persons were not ac- i the gaoler, who ;faked to- conduct him back to
twill.), embodied to resist the annexation of Norway ',..------,Nrew" lt-te•
to Sweden ?

Bathuritfaireed to; was. ordered to b.
read a third time to.matesar.

The Cottrox Duty. Bill was read a wood tido, yid
ordereilgi be sommittell to-morrow.
Tke,W*ort, if:, tho Committee op •the brolgwn
Li btbruite,. In!. brought up and egroed 4h,ofid i
„Ili' egorftereiti to be br4o,ght in accoqling
f/s
. e oilier_gplers: of the Day Wen Ab 4 d
4• sae lbw Ifilliariiiinnied: - ---miumm--. -ire

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LAW INTIBLLIONNeg.'

MIR/ OF CHANCERY, MAY 2.

1
REX 0. firlfty SWANN, ESQ.
The AtTORSIT•(4Is-ENEaLL, prayed thejudgment of
the tbert igaiett this Defendant, who had suffered
it by default, for en assault: Upon the.Rev...Toseph
Fortonb. lit appeared, that the parties were Di-
I rectors of the Cornwall Mounts', Bay Harbour Com-
pany, and that the assault was committed at one of
ifs meetings in London. It appearing, from the
affidavits of several other Directors, that the Prose-
,
cutor had, on former occasions, announced ion-
tions of violence against the Defendant, and on the
I nkcasion in question, he had used language unbe-
coming his cloth, and had given the Defendant the lie,
; 1 theCoort adjudged the Defendant to pay a fine of 101.
and to enter into a recoanizauce of the peace for
three years, himself in 1001. and two sureties in 501.
• each.