The Statesman.
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try knew when their fleets were in port, sod
when they were not ; but they never knew
what it was that they were fighting for. The
calamitous events of these bloody, expensive, anti
disastrous wars, were certainly nut subjects to con.
gratulate his Majesty upon. Were they to con.
gratulate his Majesty upon the fvequent suspension
of the flabeasCorpus Act, and of the Constitution
during his reign ? Could we congratulate his Ma-
jesty upon the Tresses,' and Sedition Bills, in con.
sequence of which many unfortunate young men
suffered the must severe punishment, fur merely
repeating shat had been said with greater force
at a former period, by the very Ministers aho
recommended the prosecution? If we were to
return thanks to Almighty God, merely fur
prolonging the life of his Majesty, we could
not congratulate our Sovereign fur having escaped
bodily infirmity, nor yet could we congratulate
him un his family, or un the success of the mea-
sures of his Government. After such unexampled
failures as the country has lately witnessed, it
should rather be a time fur the City to go up and
' point out to his Majesty the cause of these failures,
than to fix this as a time to ease a day of re.
juicing. At the conclusion of the last war against
France, after having incurred a fresh debt of 200
millions, the Nation was informed by the Sucre.
tary at War (Mr. Windham), that " although we
had gained battles, the objects of the war were
lust, and that Europe was gone." Was it then for
a war, attended with such expellee, and so enrol...
tunate in its results, that his Majesty should be
chugratulated? Or was it fur the events of the pre.
'bit war., theConv.etion of Cintra, the unfortunate
occurrences in Spain, or the Expedition to Walchee
ten, the most disgraceful one that was to be found
in the annals of the Country—that a congratidatios
' was to be voted ? tie might therefore ask, what pore
tiun was it of his Majesty's long reign, which we
could nix upon as the period for a complimentary
Address ? • If the Address of the City had been
attended to on g former occasion, and a proper
inquiry instituted respecting the shameful Con-
vention of Cintra, the country would, probably,
1, not have now to . lametst the loss which we have
'sustained in Spain, fruits the hasty advance and
precipitate retreat of Lord Visc.Wellington. Now,
' although the Cutivention of Ciedra had been felt
as most disgraceful to this country, yet there was
no man hardy enough to stand up and say, that
In this, that, or any other failure, which is re-
Corded in the annals of British history, was any
thing near so disgraceful said calamitous, as the
last and most infamous Expedition, which was els-
trusted to Lord Chatham. There was nobody that
would say, that the !Ileums Tax, and the eaten.
siun of !the Excise Laws, were subjects upon
which his Majesty should be congratulated. As
to t'n conduct of our military affairs, it was so
extremely bad, that although we have double the
number of Generals on our Staff than Bonaparte
has, and maintained, probably, at four times the
expence, yet when it comes to select Generals fur
the command of our Expeditiuns, we select a
Whitelocke, a Dalrymple, or a Chatham. Could
the Court see, with indifference, the waste of
British blood which was uccasioned by the fully
of those who planned, or who had the execution
of the objects of our Expeditions 1 It had been
said, and very truly, that the valour of our sol-
diers and sailors had been cunspicuous in the late
wars. It so, the greater blame rested upon the
Government. if we had soldiers who- would nut
fight, the wisest Government might fail in its ob.
jects ; but when it is known that we have a brave
army and navy, that will execute well whatever
they tore called 'llion to do," the blame will rest ex-
clusively on the Government, which, by the ab.
surdity of its plans, and its selection of officers,
makes British valour useless, and causes torrents
of British blood to flow for no purpose. Among
the many faults of the Government, he would
maintain, that altnough we had 38 Ambassadors,
'who received 54,0t)01. per ann.in pension', in adult-
don to their pa) ,yet in the very few Courts in which
they would be received, it was almost always
found that they were completely ignorant of their
duty. We had lately an example of this Ame-
rica ; and in S a Alen, although every other man in
the country knew a Itevulution was probable, the
British Atobtssadur alone appeared to know no-
thing of the matter. There never was a great coun-
try w hose affairs had been so ill-managed as the af-
fairs of this country: and yet Ministers shewed great
a billies in some things. They could easily discover
all the meatus that would prevent 'surcharges frum
being evaded ; and yet they never could discover
the means by which the country's affairs in other
respects could be managed with honour. At the
very time that the taxes were to be levied with the
utmost rigour, accounts to the amount of nine
millions of money were yet unsettled at the Victu-
alling-office; and above seven millions ta4 Weft.
India accounts were yet unexamined, notwith-
standing the expense of the Commissioners ap.
pointed fur that purpose. In the very last year,
above 9 millions were added to the yearly expel'.
dituro and when it was considered, that from
the year 1797 to the present year, the taxes had
increased from twenty-three millions annually to
seventy millions, without gaining a single ob-
ject fur which tee entered into the war, he could
nut sec how his Majesty could be congratulated
on such calamitm, events. It was evidently impossible fair
the country to go on mach loner under such a prozve..ive
and (Mutinous accumulation of public burdens. 'those Gen-
tlemen on the other side, who were always calling for unani-
mity in that Court, were acting incomistsmitly %then they
brought forward motions which must necessarily disturb that
unaipinity. lie had himself fur the whole of his political
life, opposed, as farm he was able, the system which had
Waugh: su many (Ala billet; on the country. Fur toe greater
part of that time, he had beets buffeted and hunted down
as u Jacobin, and fur many yews he could poly prevail
on live Member• to divide w ith him. Ile I over had
never tonged to the right baud or the left ; but regardle-s
of whatever odium the Gentlemen nu the other side
might virile a,,..airst him, he had fearlessly pursued through
litV,lsti ter stmuld always continue to di, it, mat low of coo-
del t whicli his seme of public duty pointed out (head op-
p!antes frcluto the Her. The Lord Mayor called the tirrnlenern
to order). These applause, ware certain') irregular, mid be
sas happy to say that it was an Irrevitartly %vote% (lid not
often taae place. • There were, Yu welter, occasions ashen it
was hard fur men to conceal their feelings; and such &mum
stratums had been beard, sometimes, in tne !louse of Com
MOM itself. There were many Gentlemen in that I 'ourt who
.reed with him in the must essential points; and yet. btu
co • .• their weirs same shades of dill.Prettret they, upon tunny
OCC.lSitills, threw themselves into the arms of the enemy.
—Nothing could be more mischievous or dangerous than
suds a saunas. Mr. Fox had elegantly observed, in his

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History. that " it was much hetter to con ele something
to a friend, than every thing to an enemy." He wished that
those, who oil important points them* as he did, were im-
pressed with the troth of this sentiment. As to mans of the
Gel:times on the other side, he might avwell talk to Stocks or
stones. as to address them with any hopes of convincing them.
They were evidently playing n g one of their own; they *ern
fishing for themselves, while be bad nothing to bnpe fur or
to fear from any Government, and had never obtained or
sought any favours. lie was very much astonished teat a
Gentleman who had gives moire of a motion fur the pre-
,sent day (Mr. Deputy Kemble), should now feel differ-
ently from what he did upon the Convention of Ciutra :
Ott that occasion he mentioned, " that his blot d boiled
with indignation, and that he was ready to go up to his Ma-
jesty.every week w ith a remonstrance on the subject." Ilea
booting zeal, however, most have now considerably codled.
The City of London could then eo better proof of its loyalty
ho its Sovereign uric the preseut occasim, than by poititio4
alit to him thine enemies who had brought 5114 dogract4
and dangers upon the country. An laotsiurable and loyal
Baronet (Sir IV illiam Curtis) bad, upon a former oc-
casion, complained of his personality ; hut be did not at
twat time recollect for what number of years lie (Mr.
Waithman) bad been et ;owed to the pevotrallties of the
Baronet and his itieuds. Ile had, {scrimp:, for-
often, that when he was in a minority- on the question of the
Treason and Sedition Bills, Gentlemen insisted ninon a divi-
sioms. in order that it might 1w sera w 143 were the ~shirt
of the country." As to what was called the monied interest,
although he was himself a tradesman, he would never look
much to the monied interest to support comblutioaal priuci-
pies; sue to Batik Directors, who can get Acts of Parlia.
reek to prevent them paying their notes to cash, aud who re.
ceive 5 per cent. fur interest on a bit of 'wiper intrinsically
sot worth a peony. On this subject he lead the folio% ing
passage from a speech f Lord Chatham, on the question of
the kalklaud Ishuid.,:—
" There is a Pet of men, my Lords, iniS City of Lon-
" don, who are known to live, in riot and &raj upon the
" "dander of the ignorant, the innocent, the hciptes—upon
" that part of the consuauility which *toads most iu need of,
°, nod oest deserve', ttie rare and protection of the Legisla-
" tiro. To me, my Lords, whether they he the naSseradots
" jobbers of 'Change-.Nov, or the lofty Asiatic plishderers
" of Leadenhall-street, they are all equally tieltstaik.
" care but little whether a man walks no foot, or is drawn
" by eight burses, or sit buries; if his luxury be snpported
" by the plunder of his rnimry, 1 despise and drest
" NI y holds, while L bad the honour of serving his .11.4,esty,
" I ueser ventured to look at the treasury, but lit a instances
" it is a business l am midi fur, and to which I never could
" li .vc snlamitted: The little 1 know of it has not served to
" mice my opinion of what Is iniPgarig railed no monied joy
" lcrral. I 111 'au, that blood-sasersee, inat misek-assrm, winch
" calls itself the Jiiaoad of Go tier nine n: —that pret. a s to serve
" telt or that distininiatridion, aud may, be perehased, ea the
" same tern% ay any Admits's:Option —that adoassoss emus
" fo Cismernnunt, and takes speci.it tare of iM men cowls.
" mewls. UuJer On description L include tot atadie race of
" ConsmisSalies, Jobbers, toolleaviors, Clothiers, and It..
as misters!! I"
!lad these most pertinent observatious been made by him.
self (Mr. W.), he doubtless hod been charged sow Jacobin-
or the deepest dye—but they were sesifoneoto gieat
Chatham. the determined foe of Corruption iii watevei
shape it reared its herel.—(Near: hear? hear lie well
knew, ice also all well knew, or might nell lAA
these own were set tip t.o sale to every Aaiministratiou. No
Administration, be It cu.sipiord of who it :night, could ever
he at a loss to raise a losau, w hike such characters as Lord
Chatham hod described were iii eaisteisce. Atter Mr. eiti
retired, his successors were notated must cordially w partwite
of Chic Hospitality. kolas &aril Grey, who had for year,
been opposing Mr. Piit's system, no mower came tutu pJoer
than he was invited into she Cite. Of tom dopovittoa la n'rs OS
athatation be swot .adduce iiitionCes so 'clout eat, is loco ba
sbouloluot detain the CWai t by recapitulating —barprocaril Id
need his Aineudinent, which was as folios. s :
" fiaat.shis Court said the Couutry at large have upon al4
OCCabiUdS itv inced their loyalty:sod oturebtacut to his .tinies-
y's Person and lainity, aaas duly tin?ressed w nth is >ruse of
the eminent virtues wbieb ..ave so long endeared him to his
people, they will at all times heready to testily their loyalty
; and altociansifut. _

'f t the People distinguisbiug between the beoefieent
views and ioteatioto of toe Aluttareh, awl wr prodigate act'
of incapable and anpruiftpled advisers, o oo n.ave abused tba
contidet.ce of their a.,verrigu, toive out Sinfered toe destruc-
tive mcosurcs winch wise produced -twit an accuniulatiou of
oral:mottoes ctents—the frauds, corruption, and pecobstio.!,
which have so tong existed—nor c,e wouton and wasteful
critic* of tat it'd and treasure—to any mous t to dituunsa the
love and altectioa which Lary have bum' ut. Mauro.)i tir.kly
persuattra that these eveuts toast have been equ illy dngo:tog
to his Majesty awl the People.
" They are therefore ut optuiou, that daring the present
ale any aspectet pttiolac atuidst their recut aidicting
War/ and disapponion.nts, and the preseut dottactrdwatcnt
his Ilapesty's Coma:4 to set any (la_ apart as tl day of pub.
he rejoicing, cuald neither be grutti, tug to has ur
au appropriate way of trait.) big their itiyalty, our would at
accord won the character of a ow, warts, and coosiderote
people, feeling deeply fur the honour and character ut tlid
ammo"
11W. W A UllilAN concluded at must ablespeech (ef 'which
teemsve hero wiaule to give more lase a nasty anal inipri •
Ott sketch), by avowitig, that altfillugh hr should at all
Moses hr oust ready to te:lify hie Vitt stud attadtmeat to ht.
t‘er iga4 Peri"eitilt he it ibleti tail be Oswald never uesitate
disc. stoioatteig bet wero Vs of Use /tang Itiosse4 anti
Mace of /is catchers.
The COMMON ,SNIkJEANT then read the
original Motion and the Amendment.
A Gentlemais who hail bJure spoken somewhat
pleasantly, mitt who had been called. to or,ler for
personality, defended the' part which he had taker[
in the Committee upon this subject. He was
wandering from qiequestioniuto persumdity again)
whet
The LORD MAYOR sail, he was ready to
sit in the Chair until midnight, if Geutletuets
thought fit to argue this matter so lung, that is,
r while they disclosed business, but personuli/y was
not business, therefore be must really pot an
mid to it.
Mr. N EMBLE admitted, that personality was
not business, but when one Gentlemen was pet.
sonal, it became almost unavoidable that owe.'
'.her should be so, because there was otherwise
hardly any way of answering him with effect. lie
oust say, it was indecent in Mr. IVaithosati to
I attribute to any Member of that Court unworthy
"olives, and that whet' he did so, his Lord'hip
should stop him. Let him mention the man's
name whom he meant to have unworthy motives,
and nut intimate sidelong something that he would
now nut avow. '• it he has the courage," said Mr.
" let him ilia that like a man, I am ready
to mccl him at any time."
Mr. Alderman smiTil said a few words, but he
was not audible below the liar.
Mr. MA WNI A N lamemed that the Court was
nut unanimous on this iinportaut occasion ; he
was, however, soniew hat relieved from the pres.
sure of that feeling, by reflecting that the worthy
' Member who now opposed the Resolution before
the Court, had signed the report which contained
it. Ile did nut, however, agree to the Report al.
together, although he did to this resolution, which
l
I was that of the Court going to St. Paul's to itcar
divine service. But, as to another part of the
Report; which stated that a Dinner was ueither
expedient nor necessary on that occasion, it was
I a proposition front which he dissented, and he
had another to make in lien of it; as to the ezpcnct
of a dinner, he admitted that to be a consider,
able object, and that expenoe should be avoidet
AI much as possible in the present mate of tit
finances of the City,—hut they mast retrench ii
something else to make up for expeuce en tht
occasion, which, lic believed, would only Paw
to about 10001. lie should propose, with h
Lordships's leave, that the Corporation shoal
dine at the Egyptian Hell. Nur was

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state of the finances of the Corporation so
low as not to admit of this expenditure with-
out much inconvenience, for its annual capi-
, toe was !argot- thee it had been formerly ;
besides, a Committee might be appointed to
conduct the business of the dinner and do it fur
nothing, which tiottild considerably diminish the
expense ; he should be glad to afford any assist-
ance he could render in that way gratis. It was,
with him, a first principle that the Corporation
should pass that day as a fectlt, and also that
the feast should be held at our Man‘ion. House.
It had been asked, by a worthy Member (Mr.
Waithman), what there was to rejoice for? To
which he answered, a green deal ; for, during the
present reign, much had been done to improve
the condition of society at large ; the public
,roads had been improved ; we had had an i ii-
rnence quantity of inclosurc. Let its look at
the face of the country in general, and see whe-
ther it was approaching that ruin which the
worthy Member seemed to predict. Dank
at the state of your manufactures and your
produce, your agriculture, your arts, fine and
mechanic—look at your Array and Navy, and
then see the progress which society had made in
its condition within these ten years ; the peace
which we had enjoyed; and then be was inclined
to think we should arrive to the conclusion, that,
generally speaking, society was never it so flou-
rishing a condition as at the present moment.—
[Mar ! hear! from Mr. Dixon.) It might in
said, that we could nut attribute all these matters to
Hie blaisstv ; but without the benignity of his
reign they might have been cheektel and prevetit.
ed ; besides, it was but fair to take this view of
things, as others had taken such a view of the
ills of the prescut reign. He therefore saw much
%natter of congratulation to his Majesty out ac.
count of his reign. He considered our Constitu.
lion a matter of great congratulation ; it was a
happy and glorious Constitution, the principles
Of which his Majesty bad uniformly supported
fur fifty years together. Therefore, be flattered
himself, that the sense of the Court was, instead
of using the language of complaint, to indulge in
that of apprvb.stion.
Mr. S. DIXON lamented that Gentlemen had
se:lndere(' so much as they had done from the cress,
Con before the Court, which was simply...whether
the Court should, 'or should not, go to St. Paul's
to hear divine service cm the 25th of October tout,
and return thanks to Almighty God. Ile bed heard a
speech of en hour loug, from one Member (Mr.
NVaithmati), without. containing a single word to
the question. That Worthy Member had talked
a great deal too much of himself. Who and what
%vas Ise---that be should engross so much of the
Court upou his affairs—his character— his circum-
stances—that hoshoeld thus talk so much .f him.
self for himself. Here Mr. Dixon wittily intro-
'limed the old jingle of " As I walked to myself,
I talked to myself," &c. which he repeated with
great emphasis and violent gesticulation, to the
no small diversion of the whole Court. As to the
matter now snore immediately before the Court, he
had the pleasure to say, because he had the plea.
'sure to feel, there was abtindant matter for con-
gratulation to our Sovereign Lord the King, for
his happy reign of 50 years over a loyal and ailktc-
floosie People.
Mr. Alderman GOODBEIIERE saw the pro..
priety of separating the personal from the Magis-
terial tharicter of the King. 'fliere was a wide
direrence between the moral character of the man,
and the ojke which he holds; and to attribute to
hini things which were not produced by him, was
to come to a co/tclatsion without premises, and to
n false conclusion. Such, he considered to be the
attributing to the King the state of the public
roads, the ttate df the manufactites, of commerce,
of agriculture, of the arts, of the army,and the navy.
These Were ndt produced by the reign of the King,at.
though they happened in the reign of the King: they
*ere the effect of the industry and diligence of the
people; and it the worthy Member who had brought
forward these subjects attended to that &iliac-
tion, he would not have arrived at the conclusion
of attributing them to his Majesty. They were
the Welt of the energy and the activity of the
people. The way to judge this question rightly,
was to lOok at the transactions of the present
Reign, and then tie should find many things done
by those whom his Majesty bad entrusted with his
Councils, Which not only were mutt subjects of
congratulation, but such as must excite our (15.
horrence. Let us look at the eztcnsion of the
hateful Excite Lars—at the odious and inquisi-
tonial Income Tax-.-at the huge, the monstrous
site of the National Debt, the collection of the
taxes to defray the interest of which had spread
Court influence and corruption into almost every
'branch of society, civil or military. Look at the
leasie if treasure and of blood, which had at.
steeled a reign of forty.tiime years, thirty of which
had been -.car ; during which, twenty-six Bishops,
whose duty it was to preach the millness of the
Christi4n Itc:igion, which was ' good will to
moan," yet lent their aid, as Lords of Parlia-
ment, to a system of havoc and devastation all
ores Europe, and an immense portion of India--
and also over a vast space of America. It was,
therefore, not enough to say that our roads, our
trade, our cfunuterce, our agriculture, our arts,
were donrishisg, we must look also at the calami-
ties of the people ; at the fatal policy which
brought on those calamities. Ito should not
now take np the time of the Court in enumer:t-
ing them, but they were numerous ; and some
of them %%ere at this moment, to hilt, awful and
alarming ; he knew the people at large felt them
in that light ; and the Court, in his opinion,
ought to take care not to bring, as it were, a
question between the King and his People, by thus
injudiciously obtruding upon the public, a grave
recollection of their) calamitous events. Sound
belle and wise policy would have etunned a dis.
mission of these matters at this crisis. For God's
sake, let the Court do nothing that had a tendency
to commotion. Things are, at present, tolerably
quiet user the country; discussion may disturb
them. Au illurninalien was the very worst pro-
ject that could be devised. Lights might, indeed,
be set in people's window, but unless we could
. Wyse them-fulness into their hearts, the iilunti.


*Wien would do them no good. This wis not
stieh a season as that of the news from Egypt or
Trafalgar. They were, indeed, subjects Jit fur
illumination. But this was to comiecinerate, by
a Jubilee, the whole of a Reign, which had been
marked by most afflicting calamities—by the ea.
tension of the detestable Excise Laws—by sus.
pensions of the Act of Habeas Corpus, the hid.
wark of the liberty of the subject—by the prodi.
gions waste of blood and treasure-...by an increase
of the National Debt from 100 to WO millions.
With these views of things, it appeared to him,
that we deceived ourselves, if we thought..phis a
season for a Jubilee, lor, to him, the situation of
of the country appeared to be truly calamitous.
Mr. KEMBLE did nut agree with every part of
die Resolutions before the Court, but with the
tirit part he did agree. lie could not help being stir.
prised at the conduct of a worthy Member (Mr.
Waithisian), fur he hail signed the very report
which lie was now attacking. He never would
have put his name to what he disapproved; he
thought this conduct disingenuous in that Gentle.
many and done to lull the Court into a delusive
apprelientiou of security, the better to defeat its
purpose, which was almost unanimously holding a
Jubilee. To this, Mr. IViiitliman had put his
name, and he was now attacking it. Ile should
have been ashanied to put his name to any thing of
hiet he disapproved.
Al r. CLARK gave an account of what passed
in the Committee at the time of framing the Re-
port, and observed that on that occasion, Mr.
Waithinan had said that he would concur in the
rtsolutions every one. As to the conduct of
MiNieters, and their fondness for War, he had as
much abhorrence of it as any one, but he wished
to state what passed' in the Committee, to avoid
misrepmentation, and to rescue the Committee
from reflections.

Mr. WALTIIMAN said, he made no rake.
tiou on the Committee; but his object in signing
the Report was, to bring forward the discussion
of the subject Otte report was not his act, hut the
act of the Committee. He medial) observations in
the Conamittee.....he did not exchange a word with
any individual in it, until a question was put to
hint respecting the Dinner, and then lie said
distinctly, that he disapproved of that measure.
Thu question VI4S then put on the Resolution
fnr guiug to hear Divine Service, and to return
thanks to the Almighty God, un the 25th of
October next.

Mr. WAITIIMAN said, that at the desire of
several individuals near him, he had no objection
to withdrawing his amendment fur the present,
and to put it on the 2d ticsoltition,—but this was
over-ruled by the Court.
Mr. DIXON said, a Gentleni In was now at-
tending to learn whether St. Paul's was to he the
place in which the Corporation would attend Di.
use Service, in order that he might give directions
fur arranging the interior of that Cathedral in a
manner suitable to the purpose.
The question was therefore put and carried for
attendin4 Divine Service at St. Paul's on that day.
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Mr. KEMBLE observed, that the regular
course now was to appoint a Committee to pre.
pare an Address to be presented to his*MAJESTY) ,
on this occasion. This produced a short eonver.
maim', but the suggestion was nut adopted. He
then observed; that the next question was upon
the subject of Illumination. Such was the loy•
alty of the people, that he bad no doubt, whether
the Court ordered au illumination of the front of
Guildhall, or nut, the illuniination snotdd be ge-
neral. The Court might expect that the Man-
liest-he/toe, the India-house, and the Hank, should
illuminate on that occasiou ; but there was no ne.
cessity for the Court to recommend it to individuals,
for their loyalty was such, that they would du it
without any suggestion (rem any quarter. lie
was aware of the pressure of taxes, but such was
the loyalty of the people of this country, that be
was confident they. would bear still more without
a murmur, in support of his Majesty and his Go-
vernment; but as the people were so reitly to
pay their money, the Court should not shew a
readiness to take It out of their pockets.
Mr. IVIIEBLE recollected the advice of Ham-
let to the players, " Let your clowns say no
more than is set down for them," and therefore
he should he short. He thought the Police of
flts City defective enough already, without any
Illumination, which would create much confu-
sion; but defective as the Police of the City was,
there was this consolation, that the Police of the
Wert End of the TON'll was a great deal worse,
witness the tumult and uproar of Covent Garden
Theatre for a week together. Nor were peace,
and quietness, and obedience to the laws, much
reeotiitnended by the duel whirl) lately took place
between tno Secretaries of Slate, and Members of
the King's Cabinet ; for these reasons wo under-
stood the worthy Member's sentiments to be ad-
verse to an Illuminetion.
Sir JOHN EAMEIL did not concern himself
much about the Police of the /Vest End of the
Town, but defended that of the City, which he
maintained to be excellent.
Mr. Alderman WOOL) advised the Court to
look to thr price of bread, rather thau talk about
Illunsination. Ile disliked this proposition to it.
luminate Guildhall, because it would have the
effect of compulsion on all the householders of the
metropolis; fur there were persons in abundance
who were ready to break such windows as should
not be ill 'nine/tell.
Mr. MILLAR considered the whole of this
measure of a Jubilee as a 'sere trick intended for
the purpose of screening Ministers from an in.
guiry into their conduct, which was most culpable.
lie considered an Illumination es the most injudi-
cious step that could be taken, even by those who
most wished to render ibis Reign illustrious; be.
cause it would afford 'opportunities to those who
thought otherwise, to contrast the present condi-
tion of things with that of the end of the last
reign. The illumination reminded him of what
was said in the once popular entertainment of
Harlequin Touchstone. The character in that
piece is supposed to poesess a talisman, by the
application of which Truth is instantly elicited.
lAmongst other places which he visited was Parisi
when: the people were illuminating the city. liar.

!equity, on inquiring the cause of this
is laureled that ft was for a great victory ; but,
I on applying the touchstone, he discovers that this
illamitiatiun was for the purpose of keeping thel
People in the dark. Thus, for instance, an invidious
person might pot up in one window, National
Debt, 100 millfons—in anuavr, Bou millions.
In one, the price of the quartern loaf at six pence,'
in another, possibly two shillings. In one, the
portion of Excise almost nothin.,---i3 another*,
must enormous. In the one, the possession of
America--.in another, the toss of it. In one, the
state of Taxes, which were light, and collected
constitutionally—in another, the Assessed Taxes,
and the INCOME Btu., cui.tec-ru:o eras TlIt:
PRIIICIPLES or TUE In one, the
annuitant and tradesman of 2001. enjoying, in
the reign of George the Secon I every C.Olll.
fort which the country could afford, ati.l
in comparative affluence ; and iu another, the seine
individual, in the reign of George the Third, re-
duced by the Income Tax to 1801. overwhel tied
with taxes, and driven from his parlour-tea garret.
Tho Worthy Member having enumerated ovally
other points of this nature, he said he saw no
cause for illumination, but saw a great deal of
folly in proposing it.
Mr. BOX expressed a desire to support the
honour and dignity of the City.
Mr. WA mi NI A N had insuperable obit clons
to that part of the Report which went to feCOlll.,
mend an illumination of the front of Goiltlhall,
because, as the worthy Alderman haul s.iid, it
would become a matter acorn/Jul:6m ; fur if nine.
or ten people were to light up, every body mnst
do it fur safety, or it might cost them their bri,.
Ile considered it as a scheme fur the purpoie of
marking out, and exposing to obloquy, those who
did not join it, by holding them out as persona
deficient in attachment to their Sower. ign. But
let the matter be discussed as it might, yiu Day of
the Jubilee would, in reality, be a dav, nut of
Joy, but of Grief at heart for the people. Nese
but contractors, juhuers, pensioners, placetnen,
or place-hunters would feel any Joy at heart
on that occasion. It would be impossible for
any reflecting man to luck at the transactions
of that day, without a gloomy recollection of the
enormous load of debt, which pressed upon us,
without feeling that that debt had been in-
curred for the attainment of objects, none of
which had been attained. That it ea: professedly
incurred for the security of this Country, and
of the Throne itself; that both are, at this
moment, less secure than they were, when our
debt was only 100 instead of 800 millions.—
That it is absolutely impossible for this Country'
to go on, upon thy: Santo scale of expenditu re for the
next, as the last 7 years. That out of 19 years of
this Reign, we h ire haul 3U years of war; that it
was owing to accident alone we had been enabled
to go on so long without national eackruptcy
and that was the invention of machinery by Sir
Richard Arkwright for spinning cotton, by is Lich
that article might be said to hare become the staple'
of the country, instead of wool. Haring taken
notice of the mistake into which Mr. Alderman
Curtis fell, as an historian, the other day In
comparing the present reign to that of Henry lii.
• weak and wicked Prince, whose ineaseres were
against The interest of his people, and who had
uveu violated his Oath...when the Worthy Alder.
man must have meant, if he meant any thing, to
have alluded to Edward 111, who was, iutleed,
an illustrious Prince, he concluded with heartily
dissenting (rem this Resolution.
In the course of his Speech, lie was frequently.
called to order by Mr. Keuible, Sir John Earner,
and others ; but the Lord Mayor did not sanction
them its their endeavours to put Mr. IVaitliman
clown---the Worthy Member not being, in his
Lordship's judgment, irregular.
Mr. DIXON said there surely must be some
mistake in this matter; Mr. Waithtnan must fancy
himself speaking of some other Report, fur on
this, the first signature was Robert ;Valero:an."
Mr. WAITIIMAN said, lie had already ob.
served that he had signed the Report, and had
assigned
.his reason for signing it, which was, for
the purpose of bringing the matter it contained
into discussion, and particularly fur the purpose
of stating, as the Report did state, that a dinner
was neither expedient nor necessary on this oc.
casion.

Mr. HARPER said, that such was the gene-
ral loyalty of the people, a general illumination
would take place.
The question was put fur illuminating the front
of Guildhall, and carried.
The neat important article to be considered was
that of a