The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-06-25 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN,

lid, refused to surrender it. To prove that the cook
try was in a state of war, it was sufficient to state,
that, is this wee, there was a regular capitelation.—
.These facts prose that the outrages which had takes
plaqe, bad not arisen from sordesire •f destroying
the colony and Mr. Semple. Mr. A. Macdenell did
collect half-breeds of Indians, be admitted, bet it was
for the protection of provisioes. He hated it notes.
airy to collect force solidest to defied their provi-
sions from Gapelie to the mouth of the Red liver. It
was egress misrepresentation to say that these Inds-
ass were going to attack the colony ; they were only
proceeding with provision's. Mr. Macdoeell bad'
sent a party of half-breed ladies' with a cart of pro.
visions. Governor Semple. &axioms to preserve the,
colony, and seam the natural couseqeences of
what bad already been dose, in a foolish manage
went oat to pursue them, not to attack them.—
Ile lamented the result. He admitted that lushes
were introduced into Fort William at the same time,
bet this was in consequence of the destruction of the
posts. That this was ao unnecessary procastioe
was evident, since the Noble Lord afterwards made
so scruple of seizing at Fort William 70,0001. or
80,0001. of property. Ile stated these facts to show
that it lied not been a wanton and unprovoked at.
lack. Those whom the Indians met on their way
they made prisoners, to prevent their carrying dis-
torted reports ; an instance of which bad occurred in
the ease of Mr. Macgillivray, • half-breed, who aid
that they had knocked the Colony on the head.—
Lord Selkirk had himself instructed Mr. Henry to
bring Indians to prevent the North West Company
from trading from Montreal. lie mentioned this
in order to show that Lord Selkirk acted for the
perposos of trade, end is the very mode of which
he complained. The Honourable Member. recol-
lected to bare heard the Petitioner asked, who bud
fired the first shot, end his answer was, " I don't
know." Lord Selkirk was, therefore, not the injured
party ; es the contrary, he had carried ea ogres.
aims somtampled. Lord Selkirk hod been at the
time of Governor Semple's death at St. Mary's. Ile
immediately proceeded titmice to Fort William, with
TOO soldiers, sad arrested ell whom be chose. He
ought to have Kenn to York, which was not
far from St. Mary's, sad ritualised regular Oillarn to
suppress this nest of murderers; bet, so, he went
himself, acting as a Magistrate; be arrested all pre-
sent, many of whom he knew to be innocent, sad
sent them away to Montreal, a dielesee of 1500
miles: among them be sent Mr. William Macgilli•
vray, as respectable a Greotlestan as any is that
Houk, against whom he some afterwards stated any
&cessation. The Noble Earl neat seized all pro-
perty and applied part to his owe use. One indivi.
deal he kept there for • special purpose; and by
perpetual intoxicative practised epos him, at least
his spot did, till be made a transfer to his Lordship
of the property seized. This very person, Mackenzie,
his dope end his instrument, recovered 15001. of da-
mages for his Lordship's conduct towards him.—
The lion. Member neat made several observations In
vindication of the administratioa of justice in Gouda.
The Earl of Selkirk bad himself *spooked his con-
elegies that Mr. Hume (one of the Judges) was sot
guilty of a dereictiou of duty. The Attonsey-Go-
neral of Upper Catede, as wee as he arrived in that
country, retuned the retainer a! the North West
Company, and refused to act for them. The Noble
Earl had been himself appointing robbers, jedges
and sheriffs. Mr. Semple was the only esception.
Mr. Miles Macdonell bad been the Chief Judge in
trying his prisoners. The Hoe. Member here stated,
that ke bad seed every means of informing himself upon
the subject, bat he had not ransacked private borealis,
or used bribery, to obtain confidential commaoka.
lions. Lord Selkirk had stood by, while a clerk
transcribed for hiss a private letter from the letter•
honk. lie had no doubt, however, that the Noble
Earl wished the question to be set at rest by a jedi.
dal decision. If his Lordship bad the right which
he claimed, in God's name let it be awarded to hies.
He wished that • wire facies, or a quo warranto,
could be lased. There was, he understood, • dels•
coley in submitting the rights of the Crown to common
Courts of law. lie had himself an action in We.t.
minster.ball against Mr. Macdonell ; he did out
know whether this question could be decided as con.
'meted with the case, bat he apprebeeded it could
not. Ile wished the felkst stater:mot of facts to be
given, and was only sorry that the Hon. Bart. who
brought forward the motion for the papers, had, be-
fore they wore produced, made an ex-parte charge.
Mr. SCA Iti.F.T r degraded the conduct of the
Earl of SAkirk. The Hon. and learned Gentleman,
adverting to the charge of Mr. Ellice, that Lord Set.
kirk lied occupied the Red River settlement not for
colonization bat for trade, declared, that his Lord.
ship's motives and views were entirely weeoniseeted
with the object stated. Ile (Mr. Soden) wished
enquiry, as he was satisfied of the result.
Mr. W. SMITH entered into a detailed defence
of the condect of Lord Selkirk, and an enumeration
Of the advautages which would have resulted frets an
unobstructed esteetion of his Lordship's views. Ile
likewise road eatrocts to show, that Lord Selkirk's
settlement on the Red River was looked spouts sae
of colonisation merely. It was politic to vitalize
where colonisation was possible, sad better to cold-
est* plants there to porno wild beasts.
Mr. ELLICE eaplaised.
Mr. BENNETT called upon the lion. Gentle-
man opposite to give so answer to the speech of the
lion. Baronet, which was one of the most able and
argisesentetive that had ever been delivered within the
walls of Parliament. Ile tanned that the stigma which
had been thrown upon his Moiety's Government
would be satisfactorily refuted.
M r. GOU LBURN said. it was not for him to argue
or to decide, whether the North West Company, or
Lord •lelkirli, bad committed the greatest (menses.—
Ilk object was to show, that Government had shown
ne undue partiality to either of these parties, and that
it had not been supine in potting an NA to the es.
erne, committed by both. Lord Selkirk did com-
municate to Government his intention of establish.
ing a eettlernent in the interior of North Ameri-
ca ; but in that Intimation, there was nothing to
show that it was inteoded to alter the usual coons
of things in that part of the world; but It was
understood that his settlement was to be con.
dotted like those which he had previously este.
Wished in the islands of the Gulph of St. Laurence.
On these grounds Government gate it+ cosiest. lie

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ad that Kaibtry force had bent ststionei! in
MAID, • who ll deplored loam' I nut
bet it was found iniiiiseliostat..—
Upes ttf b storming of foils betoeen
these pities, the G went of Caned% weed 'eery
meows to stop soils proceedings. Lend Selkirk hell
resisted the warrant of the Governor of Upper Cans.
de, end orders sent Dot to pet him on his trial—a step
that coeld not have been avoided without the grossest
partiality. But es leech inconvenience would revolt
from bringing the witnesses to this country, it was
resulted to base the trial at Morarest, and after-
wards at Que`sec ; end no partiality had been shown
to either of the potties by the legal °threes.
Sir J. MONTGOMERY replied, and Mr. EL.
LICE explabied.
The several motions were then carried es amended.
TM soucrroa.c ENTERAL obtained less. tit
bring in a Bill to amend the Acts respecting the real
and personal property of his Majesty.
The Heuer, on the sootiest of Mr. WYNN, went
into a Committee on the Election Witnesses lode..
city Bill.
Mr. MARTIN said. that the object of the Bill
was to effect what he had formerly contended should
be done in the case of Election Witnesses. He trust-
ed, however, that the lion. Member would ear press
the sus jest further its so thin a Hues..
Mr. WYNN bed no with to peen the &cession,
if the lion. Gentleman, or any other Hon. Member,
wished it to be postponed. Ile should therefore move
that the Chairman report progress, and ask leave to
sit again.
Th. CHAIRMAN reported progress accordingly,
sad obtained leave to sit basin this day.
1111.0 OF 1.1(11A \GI:.
Mr. BROGI)EN, in the absents of the lion.
Member for Guildford (Mr. Serjeant ()slalom),
brought in a Bill for the Isetisss Regulation of Ac-
alliances of Bills of Elating., which was read a
first time.

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