The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-12 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLII4VE„NI'. ei ebtihting Ant explanation;
he should Mike the
--........- 4 Shbent motion. He trusted that the House would
HOME OP LORDS, Jews 11. _ , '• .. heti the necessity of such explenation in the same
Their Ibe4,orden.haipbaemet,
them CimmtchaaacenlipasiitarthieeoraLt.loelt. a
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aid 1111/6:14 light in which he did, for in his estimation there was
Mellia thew bets. Musewijemiii on Prifilit. Mils were an inexplicable something about the past which call.
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titeatitAßD CHANCF.LLOR them Oa cateetieence,as ed for elucidation. -There were two or three circuits.
wonders of some argent political avocation) moved as
kijormsvelle is te-menen, lad their Lordships adjourned it. stances, however, of which he wished to take some
renhaeli. .. .. notice. In the first place it was well known that
I nothing aai &no for several days after the receipt
HOUSE OF COMMONS. . I of the Regent's inswer by that House towards the.
Mr. ROSE moved, that tomiorrow a Committee be &Pea- : formation of a stronger Government. At hat some.
ed, to cashier of the pro net of penatuionfnljatiiitrino Oar, .
ace k, the , thing was done, bat the exertions that were mailer
he. imported late Wait ' a, to be ex $
United Statrii.—Agrtee t
ware.merely for the purpose df obtaining certain es-
A Bill for reigulatiegt‘ctipta of Knights for Shim was pitnititins. Bat still nothing was done to forward
breeot in, mid alai dad Orderetialisibe printed. , _,..„
The Marquis of ?ATI. B. Wl* tin the above um progress of the formation of a strong Adminis-
Bin, stated, that he only will" it la be priallal now, as be treat's). He had teregret mast deeply that any such
Mould theo suffer it to lie over tin the next Sessiell, del took place, and to that delay be could net but
S
T TURTON red,' that the Home resolve itself into a %
c.:mitts* the Bill fee rerlatiai theme of Pewter Pots by attri ate the present aspect of As
or Government,
tonatteses. i ifeleati ,beer!] Us delay was pit an end tOO%
, ,
Mr. GIDDY aria opoomea the NW/ bat he wished eat the
amenissiou which had *ear' plieed in the ha
Motion shoat he peetpeoed to anodsee day, ire eouluquence of 1
the more hapethmt badness about to be brought tonna. I. of the Maressis Wellesley, who in consequence ape
Sir T. TURTON ackuleseed ; but expressed Isis hope that the , plied to Lords Grey and Grenville. The result of
Him. Gentleman would be geod enough to collect all his strimith
that application was knoem—the, negocimions aims
and all his aframats by Wednesday next, to which day the
Notion was me off. I to nothing, indeed it could not but come to nothing.
On the Motion that the Manure Carriake Bill go into a Cm' ' [Hear hear. hear !] . Had the result been different,
slitter of the whole House, some observations were made against $ ,
the principle of the Bill by Mr. KENRICK and Mr. HOME, i iu a Cabinet so formed as was proposed there could
SUMNE,R Ibe nothing hot disunion ! [Continued cheers of
Sir T. TURTON defended the measure, and pressed the Mo- I
Hear, hear, wear!] He should never wish to
lion before the House.
Admiral HARVEY mad Mr. PETER MOORE made setae see such a Cabinet as there would have been had
remarks. after s.hich the Motion was carried. The Bill Meet ! the propositions been - acceded to.—After the
through a Committee, and the Report was received, read and
agreed to, and was ordered to be piloted. failure of the Noble Marquis followed the over-
ORDERS IN COUNCIL. tares made- by Earl Moira, who immediate..

Mr. ROSE gave notice, that he should move go-morrow,
that the Evidence taken in the Committee on the Orders in
Conceit, be taken into consideration ea Mooday sermight.
Mr. BROUGHAM obberved, that be bad given a similar *s-
lice for Tuesday seinnight.
Mr. ROSE was aware of that fact, hut he intended to take
the sense of the House on the question to-raerrow.-4 User I and
Welter.
An Address was ordered to be presented to the Prince Regent,
requesting some particulars respecting the Appropriation of the
Money moody granted by Parliament, in aid of Queeo Awes
Benelyto the Cl orgy.
Mr. TIGHE genre notice, that be should, to-morrow, move
far a Copy of the Pardon of the Lord Liettemsaat of Ireland, to
some Man who had ham condemned to die.
The Southern Whale Fishery, Vie Local Take" the Scotch
Taxes, the R lots, the Unlawful Oaths, and other Bills, were
postponed to future days,
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THE ADMINISTRATION.

ly proceeded to consult the same Noble Lords
(Grey and Grenville) on the formation of a
Government. Earl Moira stated that they were to
have the full and certain confidence of the Prince Re-
gent, and the uncontrouled•management of all the
measures which they might consider and had deemed
necessary. But in the progress of this negociation,
a difference arose; for Earl Moira would not con.
sent without the arrangement of the Household
should be a preliminary condition. The Noble Lords
contended for the point, and as it was not conceded
to them !w Earl Moira, the negociation failed. Thus,
because this point was not conceded to the Noble
Lords (Grey and Grenville) as a preliminary condi-

General GASCOIGNE, observing a Noble Lord tion, they had abandoned the opportunity of carry.
(Castlereagh) in his place, was anxious to know, if ing into effect all those great measures and that line
possible, in what state of forwardness his Royal of policy which they contended were necessary for
Highness's Government was at the present moment. the safety and prosperity of the country.--[Hear!]
The answer would determine him in the course he' He could not but think that such conduct was unjus.
should pursue, respocting his Motion for an Address tifiable.—[lear, hear !] —For such conduct their
to the Prince Repot, relative to a strong Govern- excuse was, that without the uncontrossled arrange-
ment. meta of the Household, they should be subjected to
Lead CASTLERKAGII replied, that souse of the exercise of en influsweeshirA es eedie peeewdetd..
the Offices of the Administration were not yet filled. mental to all their plans and hest efforts. Thus their
Secretaries for the War Department and Home De- a conduct went to confirm those injurious rumours
partmeut, however, had been nominated ; the No- which had gone abroad about " a ruinous secret in-
ble Lords Bathurst and Sidmouth, had been ap- fluence"—a line of conduct which could not bat tend
pointed to those Offices.—[Somecriesof ilear,hearl to give it strength and root instead of checking its
General GASCOIGN E.—" Then I withdraw my progress, if there were any justfouudation for the fur-
Notice." mise. But they contended, that, had they such un-
Sir F. BURDETT presented a Petition from Si. controuled power, they could remove that influence,
muel Cairn, a debtor confined iu Lancaster Gaol, I and not otherwise ; forgetting, it should seem, that if
complaining of severe usage from the gaoler, and I there really were in existence such " influence,"
praying redress. 1 that it could be exerted with equal effect, whether
Mr. W. BOOTLE felt bound, on the part of the the individuals were of the Household or not. In-
Magistracy, to express his conviction, that the coin- I deed, to remove any individuals that might be con-
plaints described in the Petition were without fouls- ceived to exercise an influence in such a way, would
dation. The gaoler was a most excellent character, , only be to give them greater cause, without removing
and there was more humanity in his disposition than the opportunity of exercising what was deemed so
be had ever observed, or heard of, in persons simi- obnoxious and ruinous a power. He could not but
larly situated. Those who knew him, knew that think, considering the quarter on which such point
fact.—uhar !]—Many persons had made complaints pressed, that it was extremely injudicious conduct
to the lion. Bart. who had recently received many that had been adopted by the Noble Lords. Rut let
letters from persons confined in that prison, and in o them look at the effect of such a proceeding. Let the
particular from a . confined debtor of the name of ; House remember what sort of impression it tended to
Wardle.—[Laughter.]—But so convinced were al- make on the public mind ; for it tended to stamp
most all the parsons confined in that pr:son, that ;.with authority all those reports that were in circula.
such conduct was highly unjust towards the gaoler, tion about ift,fluence somewhere!—[Hear, hear!]—
that 117 of them had signed a protest in his favour, Aud could any considerate man desire any such ef-
and desiring at the -same time, that all complaints feet ? But how stood the Public ? A stamp of an.
might be referred,; at they ought to be, to the Grand thority had thus been given to a highly injurious ru-
Jury, or to the Maglstrates.—Eifear, hear !]--He !now ; and, after all, what proof had they, or any
hoped the Petition would soon be enquired into, that j one else, of its existence ? Therefore, some injury
this "authorised way of libelling exemplary indiii- I had been done, and the Noble Lords had thrown ob-
duals" might be kropeily etposed. • stacles in the way of future arrangements. He meant
Sir F. BURDETT tlise:u. observed, that ke knew to say nothing personally disrespectful. With Earl
aothiug of the corrections of • the facts alluded to in Grey he was particularly acquainted in the circles of
the Petition ; but he should seise an early opportu. ' private life, and no one could admire more than he
aity of calling the attention of the House to its did the transcendent abilities of that Nobleman. But
prayer._ as to the question immediately before the lions°, he

The Petition was ordered to lie on.the table.
TRY. ADMINISTRATION.
Mr. S.'WORTLEY then rose, for the purpose of
staking his promised Motion respecting the Govern-
/sent. But a short time had elepseds be observed,
cue he made his former Motion, which bad met
nith the approbation of a majority of that House.—
The proceedings, the painful proceedings of the last
three weeks, had been the result of that motion. In
making that motion, he bad been actuated alone by
public duty. fa the discharge of his duty, he had
thought he should but set fairly by the country, in
proposing that the House of Commons should lay at
the feet of his Royal Highness the ackuow•ler!ged ge-
neral sentiment of the nation, as well as big own
opinion, that the Government which his Royal
Highness was about to form, subsequent to the death
of Mr. Percent, was not such a one as was desir-
ed. The House had approved his motion—they had
recognized such sentiment as their own. To their
Address the Prince Itegent,had returned a most gra-
cious answer—but three weeks had passed away and
they had reverted tothe same point. [Hear, hear!]
The►• still beheld the same Government—the same
men were still in, office. [Hear, hear!] Such be-
ing the fact, after` what that House had d•ae, and
after such a lapse of time had taken place, he thought
some explanation of what had passed was due to the
coilutry as well as to that House; and with a view

could not bet think that something more might be
done. He still thought it possible to form a much
stronger Administration than they at present had the •
prospect of shortly beholding. A Government ought
to have the confident* and respect of the country,
and they could only be obtained by its being distin-
guished for character, talent, and energy. If he bad
seen a fair prospect of the nation shortly having such
an Administration as he thought it ought to have, be
would not have brought forward the present Motion.
With the view of inducing his Royal Highness not to
abate his exertions to form a strong Administration,
and also for the purpose of giving an opportunity for
some explanation illustrative of the past, he had da
termined on the present proceeding. Should ft* 1
House think with him, and approve his Motion, in
his estimation their former proceeding would be pro-
perly followed up; and in the event of its being
rejected, he should still have the satisfaction of re-
flecting, that he bad exerted himself to the utmost to
get for the country the best possible Government.—
[Hear, hear !)—The !immovable Gentleman thee
r moved— •
6. That an humble Mires be pulsated to his Royal High-
see the Prince Regent, &asking hit Leh highest, for bit
Hgmelippe answer to their meat Mite" ismentleg. at the we
Met bi, seitayseg, le eemiali midi heir regent isti eft
wet %Olio ased imppipfinigli;landit tops or the home
*woo Moos eau ••Y aPPoitillit, t. •e-
II hit ' alighamfailevernmeet."
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