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so complicated, that it was by no means generally ;
understood. It required a great deal of acquaintance
with the history of India, the habits, of the people
of that country, and many other consideratious of
that nature, to form any thing like a correct opinion
upon the subject. The information which he con-
ceived necessary for the proper understanding the
question, could not be had until there should have
been a parliamentary discussion of the subject ; and
therefore he thought it better to delay the pronounc-
ing any decisiyie opinion, until such a discussion should
have taken place He thought that the Citizens of
London should hold their minds open to conviction
on this subject, and not take, it for granted that
,Ithemeesurea peeposed by Ministers would
prodate the effect efl grieving away
lodia CornPiny,and carrying nutty all that
the port of 1.00 don• lie old 901 recollect,
forme; 'occasions, thope Gentlemen
-41 'bout the chartered cots o(4a
its port. When the trade
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lied that there would not be an extension instead of
a diminution of it from the measures proposed.. Hu
concluded by moving an amendment, which was in
snbstance, "that the meeting being deeply impressed
with the magnitude and importance of the present
question, deem it necessary, that it Should 'be in
possession of The proposals of Government, and of
fart her necessary information, before' they
.could
come to a positive opinion on the subject. At the
same time, sensible of the importance of the ques-
tion, they would give it the most watchful often- I
tion, with an anxious wish that the rights and in-
terests of the. City of London might be protected '
without any injury to the general good of the whole

the house to spend the evening. By this artifice the
man had no hesitation in reliuquishing his chirp,
particu'nrly as the young man was well known to
him. Two days elapsed before euy notice was taken
of the nflutir, when it was discoveredthat the letter
had never been delivered, and it was also ascertained,
that the young man bad not been to his duty since the
day on which he obtained thetmoney. The investi-
gation that took place rotund all doubt as to 'the
culprit. It appears, that on the melting following
the :Iternoon on which the money was Ostalaedv he
called at a jeweller's in Bond-street, and purchased
a gold watch of mere than 20 guineas value, and
obtained change fora 1001. note. Soon after, this
paid; Bank

ter thearchitectural intelligence pro;:eeded.• I would
pot be forward to imitate a writer I cannot but con-
demn, or I should, in charity to.hits, suppnse him to
be more nearly related to the younf man in question,
than he has yet chosen to avow... the natural affec•
*ions claim some allcittatice, and the feelings of o
father for a favourite child might easily he received
in
_apology for his stepping forward so weakly.
Mr charity might even bare .gone further; but
there Is something so inequitable and insidious, es
well as weak, in his proposal of referring the issue
.orthis demolishing scheme to * tribunal, u h.ri. there
is a declared majority of 9? th 43 in favour of Mr.
Itionaird ; and something so uocandid, or so inten-
- in saying that Mr. Senn.‘ retused
its men merits, because he declined
I shall not spare this l'index. Ile
" the Professor," sis he does in
fresh insult, and fancy he has shot
itecotity) but Ito shall not so easily get
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. th those who mere Members of Parliailint, whether; rain lime convened, in
subject,
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etito. be nyo4lls.
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the whole abject was not then under discussion. ; cussiou at till of the and in whi *ref man 6°l"
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[Sir Ins. Curtis signified assent.] The questim was attempted to he silenced whiesespreseed art via I between;_
_ifieigte.no aw India.... iiii_....`7,77-1..-a •c."°. 'r,, *Pram pastor the scheme of Paovtainsce. paths
was,"simply, whether the Indian (not the China) Mon contrary
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.that ofed•theipar• tithes. she.. convenedltts. ilen_ 0 Sire. 4 en._tplarifnpeesiteetieY_,o77oni,lll's, „''`..i_ww"..."" "•I°.
067.dertr, afid of the Dane, wit
°la riveaN.;E____Pli r_ pitivelat,44,llll.ot, hat It was dirogele die berties. From a modern District Su .
trade should, be opened to a certain number of the the meeting. , eppro to. t-ins, ottlie rg , Of_ !et,roni_l,..,_ 1_1.A4 be
thnele.orium ladslit.av4ire rim moat., districts, Alfred erected the lasting fabrie of oar e.
out-ports, and ther were informed, that effectual which the East India.. Company talked
would-be made in Parliament respecting were now worn out; that their lease was eXpirea ~j,tetnlll.4o
provisions. , " Par. ' rveyor,
' 6, Dress is a Nide brief eteheilts;
the question of revenue. • Would the opening of and that it came %
fairly before the consideration. of 1 every body to stele -their use ressectfully to
,opooi .. Ho weal, hoWerer, , Mr. Seen. May 111111Ferifirtmekran* std
iyereappean pert.
trade be se injurious to London as was stated, un- I Parliament, •
whether, in
,casis., of a renew's'
,of the ..litrit.ont,. emit honks** loth*
wit..'
Om and justice of .
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erw7: '
accompanied with any compeusation to the !ration I lease, some degree If participation aught not to be ;the togislature to
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tlientleman in London bas • h '
et large ? -It appeared from 'the ConlPany's docu. I afforded to-the country at lute in this trade to vi a, : happy to hear the worthy Gentleman, for °tree, :isteleautteiay.ner,y,
ments, that the whole amount, for ale years past, 'ss hieh to the Company had been hitherto a losil speak' respectfully of Parliaments-la tang/474nd •I
Atka • adorn therent of his house he piea was ten millions, of which five and a 'half, millions trade. He wished that the Citizens of Loudon shoed , considerdth t thecountry might with confidenee look i a rig tto
„wow, i he injure not his neighbours, sad deform not the
sfatlle OOP ee in ! asales, provided
bad been exported in bullion ; andi that the re. not be carried away by. the statements Which had :to their ec.aistOnt.d He felt the
turns were eight millions. There wet a great en'. been made by the Company, but inspend their , t r mon, sa was convioced thiit thei
• dent loss on the trade u carried on by ithe'Compaiy. opinion on the subject- until they had better means ' continue and confirm the privileges of the Cite of , metropolis. . /
dnot i •
They were referred to the opinions of Mr. Dundas, of judging.—[Mr. Waithman was hers interrupted London, it they were roan
uncuestent Aphis I Stich was Cialilf the intention of Parliament in
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on the eMpanyr -I crept into itedetails, which may 'seem to authorise a
who was against throwing open the trade: but Mr. by clamours of disapprobation, fume one pert of the the Mtplic good of the Empire.
_there was any !, framing the Building Act ; and if any expression has
D. said in 1794, that no political weter had sup. audience, which was answered by applause from arti. Xhinigeulitijurtious is die monaoptelyed
.posed the existence of an immense territory, governed . other part. Mr. Rowcroft 'attempted to speak he It. might I amended, so . litigious District Surveyor to harass the tasteful and
by a commercial body, with the excliMve privileges order, but could not obtain a hearing.---Mr. W. fro- as not to be interious,_ .
.He certainly did wish the opulent with
vexations proceedings, it is surely high \.yt
'of trade: yet he was unwilling to depart from a long queutly endeavoured-to resume his address, but was benefits
_of the imPen'trede to be nedt */ it bad , time that the Act were revised, and its constitutional
established practice. He allowed thet all writers, -interrupted'hy flesh clamours. At length, by per been
p for so many years, tow
theport of Loudon.
But Mr. Kinnaird Is a strictlysioaseimitiosis youth,
I principle restored. •
and all practice, was against it; Yet Aft would not severance, \he obtained. hearing].-They had heard f • The Amendment of Mr. • . AITIMICAN- was thee fie- I
risk the advantages that existed. Yet opinions of this ; the authority of ben pandas, and other .persons in . gatived by a large itteierityl and the first Resolution ;it seems, and, in this Aet,—heediess or 'numb's
nature were now to be called wild schemes, and - favoer of . the monopoly; it was but fair :that they ;was agreed to.
proposed SP- ,has foiled tile precise legal lint of slaty, esokhas
I of the intention of tbe Ivegislateret—he fancies he
quixotic :henries. If the 'exchrsiee litivileges. were ' should bear the authorities on the other side. Mr. I The tither Resolutions were then
of the Committee, !Ind • bound himielf by wreath to 'abeam* it with rigorous
beneficial formerly, yet look et. the seesat. *myopia ac- Hastings, lu writing OR this subject, said expressly, ; rately hydiffereit Wilbers
cumulations, of the Company's debts. from 7 to 311" that thti.L. long -possessiod 'of our soverelg4ein , agreed to tamest enhanimously. ...
etactltude: - Hones no Oriels-eat Ae. part of Mr.
million.. Their debts increased ;. anti it became nes Bendel; *ceslid*
yto means change his ideal ,ts I Orttbe silegoletionAtiming beets read, for retinestir .dimma
: to ulets4AneoiseisleweMlNien- no gelid Lves
cessery to give farthei facilities to commerce withshis ing the cooteanted sieve of monopolies Jo :goooral. ing .r *Ord ollhe,
aid,City Representelives, ~ .r. • bailee, it uthitecturai beaveversi gam", ter w I
caantry.--[Aftwanurs.)—Ar for the many people de. Notwithstanding • all the complaints he bad heard I' A dermal tills' not profess to have',made geodesteir'erfortigie. met or' se the metro. .
pendent here ou the Company, if it were true, be about the incroachnient of private: traders, he was I himself master of We general digestion, but of this pnlis Ike* .peteade mansians - • • become, is to
was sorry for it, as it must create an. abhorrent and perfectly convinced that commerce could never flow. Ihe was sure, that the removal of the trade from the' atone seith the District -Surveyor for the smallest
destructive influence, such as tight not to exist in a rish, unless When unrestricted and free." Mr.'llous, ! port
.of London would throw a number of lades- trespass On his inmaculate legal line. Let Our bal.
free State.--[Hear!]—But he did not believe the who had been for a long time resident hi India, i trions Citizens out •of employment. He therefore conies and virandas henceforth learn to tremble.
extent of the statements. !low could all these pee- said, that it-had been long his opinion, that the COM' ! should pledge himself to oppose this part; of the
,We might have been disposed to hope better
pie be dependent on a losing trade ? There might be pony's claim of pre-emption throughout India should i measure: . thinp,—lndeed to expel more liberal conduct,—
Hoop persons benefited by the Company, but not be opposed. Mr. Colebrooke (who possessed as ac- ; Sir JAMES SMAW felt this to be a subject of the i front the sensibility to beauty,' and generosity of
by the particular branch under consideration ; not curate a knowledge of the subject as any. Mel) gave greatest importance: When he recollected, however, I feeling, which belong to the season of youth: but
10,000 could be so situated. Don't let the people's his opinion, " that the unfettered enterprise o
indi- : that nearly 100,000 Citizens were, either directly or 1 it
the heart of man is treacherous to itself above all
minds be run away with. If the Company said that 'ideals would be capable of giving g great imp Ise to: indirectly, interested in. the trade, as it was now i things," saith Solomon; and if we may trust an-
the measure would be ruinous to their competitors, the trade between this country and Ilindostan, and , conducted, and that many -men's fortunes and. pros-1 other Solomon, videlicit, Mr. Itibnalrd's friend Fin.
surely the Company itself would not be ruined by that through the medium of the private trade, (Great- pects in life would be ruined by its removal, he mast I der,-wereMr. Soane a concentration of the genies
it. When we saw the great share of the trade held Britain might become the general depot of thietrade_ cordially support the objects of the petition which he
lot all his predecessors, and his structure a union of
by the Americans, could we wish to injure 'our own to the whole world." These -authorities write en. iI had heard read. - • all the beauties of Grecian architecture, not an inch .(
shipping interest, by continuing to leave our trade in titled to great weight, and appeared to him detisive. f Alderman Avittos said, that his opinions and feel- of indulgence would be granted by the inexorable
foreign hands ?—lt staggered him excessively, to be It was impossible (Or him not to advert to' the al. I ings upon the subject, were the same now that they man of duty. The architectural Skyleek would still
told that he emit set at defiance all the principles of tered language of many Gentlemen respecting] Pars had been last year, when he was Chairman of• the bawl for his bond. Armed, as be conceives himself
Adam Smith, and the other able writers on political liament itself. It see..ted now, that they thought committee for considering the consequences of re- to be, with the power and the letter of the law, and
economy ; and set up against them the principles of that Parliament was not a body-to whose, wisdom 1 moving the trade from the port of London. In the 1 reckless of its spirit, he would batter down taste and
exclusive monopoly—[Murinurs3--and that the and justice they .might with confidence, submit this I high situation in which they had since placed him, i talent, and lay all architectural projections prostrate
East India Company ought to carry on a losing great question, but that it was necessary thit 0. chi- las one of their Representatives, it would become' iu the dust, unless they were " built by Govern.
trade after the experiments thit had been made. But mour should be raisedto intimidate Parliament.--[No, I his Parliamentary duty. to support his former opi- I meut," or, he should have added, the District Sur.
it was said, they were then to consider not the. Com- no! from many persons, the object was only to million I nions, which, he was happy to see, coincided with I veyor of St. Giles's. -
pany's, but the city of London's interests.. Well, Parliament.]-11eknew that the objectwas topetition, I-those of so large and respectable a body of his fel-
,Vindes attempts Indeed, for his client, a distinc.
then, let the city of London consider it for themselves, but for a simple petition it was not necessary to assert low-citizens. He had given no pledge upon the tion between Mr. Soave's. projection and that oh the
and not agree to resolutions unfounded in fact.— all those things which were stated in the resolutions, general question; and although he had been pre- opposite side of Lincoln's Inn-square, by-calling the
[Murmurs.] many of which appeared to him to be entirely un- sent at different public meetings, he thought it latter aan open portico;" as if Mr. Scene's were •
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The Loan Mason spoke again to order. founded in fact. Ile bad himself been accused as a would have been lowering the dignity which they not open, or not a portico; or as if an open arch
Mr. WAITHMAN (after much opposition) stated, Jacobin,- and a person who wished to overturn all had conferred on him as their Representative, if
-- I could be, in any social respect, hateful and worthy
that he would stand there till that time next day, if they our establishments, both in politics and religion, be- he had so far prdudged the question, as it had ; only Of demolition, while the spaces- between co.
chose it. He had no objection to: the Company's cause he was sometimes supposed to speak lightly of been stated in another place. For the extension i banns were all that is lovely to the sight and refresh.
terrifying Ministers about the revenue, bet he weed the present state of our Representation in Perlis- of trade between this country and India, it would iris to the soul.
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say to his fellow-citizens, " Pause, consider, watch, anent. He now could throw back this charge in the be ridiculous for 'him to say, that he was not de-1
f hi doubts wheal* ittZllmeldtprnilocaleu be s.
and examine whether they tell you the truth." If teeth of those who had formerly brought it against Siroue. In any extensions, however, which Eight portico, and is himself opekeir.eoevicilon, let him
monopoly were argued for, why not monopoly in him, by saying,' that now it was they who vilified be proposed, he should feel it his duty to watch, with consult Palladio : if he shone still profess to doubt
the West Indies too ?—Different prices, it wiesaid, the Parliament, and appeared to disturb the conduct I
the most careful solicitude,, over the rights and in- whether a portico be open which has open arches in .
- . would be produced at different sales—but *as not of their wise, loyal, eloquent, and most courtier-- terests of the city and' port of London, and not to !from) and open arches at either end, his case is
competition the life and soul, and main spring, of like Representatives. Lord Buckinghamshire had I consent that those benefits, which it bad so long en- :
hopeless and his occupation gaily for we must in
trade and commerce ?—The Proprietors had .their said, that against-the possible dangers stated by the, joyed, should be taken away from it, unless it could charity suppose his own eyes arena open.
10i per cent. on their dividends ; but the Direc. Company, the wisdom of Parliament might • find be most clearly proved, that the public good of the I have no wish that thisofficion. Surveyor should
tors' object was to preserve the power and patron. effective provision.- Those who vrould not allow whole empire required the sacrifice. molest either the College of Surgeons, or the Gentle.
age of India, and for that object they could afford to this, must evidently have. a distrust of the wisdom On the Resolution of Thanks to the Committee man to whom may belong theviranda tear the north- '
carry on a losing trade. [Hear !].--But Englishmen of Parliament. He considered that this was a I being read, _ ,
east corner of the same squire: Onthe contrary, (as
would not endure to hear,that for such a purpose their question which did not stand upon any general I Mr. Rowcnifirr justified the Committee from the I have already stated) my opinion is, that the Act
trade should be suffered to go into the hands of fo. constitutional principles, but that it was more a I charge of wishing generally to prevent discussion, should be lillemlly interpreted by the intention of
reigners.—[ !fear !]—He bad dealt for 27 years in question of facts and of evidence. If it was even I although they conceived, that when there were so those who framed it, and with tit reference to a free
Indian commodities from Glasgow to the Land's a simple question about an income-tax, our worthy I many other places proposed for discussing the gene- country; but this man of ' duty, who, as ;finder
End. Ile might loge part of his profits, if the as-. Representatives would not attempt to decide with. rat question, it might have been better, on the pre- assures us, is bound by a solemn oath, should be
sertions made were well founded. The point was, I out hearing the arguments on both sides ; but rsent occasion, to have forhorn from any such discus. taught, if he does not know, that in both these
whether any sacrifice would be made, by agreeing to on this great question, the City Representatives had; sion. cases he bas violated the letter of his oath, if he has
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the proposed measure:--whether, in fact, there already decided and pledged themselves, without I The Resolution was then agreed to. sanctioned them, as much as In the case of Mr. ,
would not be more trade in the port of London than haring heard all that could be said on the other side. I Thanks haring been yotnd to the Lord Mayor, for . Soane's portico, he has violated the spirit of it ; and
at present ? With respect to piece goods, the trade He knew, indeed, that this Cause Tould be power- his urbanity and kindness in offering them the accom. ! his champion Vindex must bear to be told, that the
could not be removed from the capital, for the con- fully supported in Parliament by all the weight, all i modation of the Egyptian Hall, and for his able and' courtly circumstance on which he has rested his prime
gumption was almost all confined to it. They had the talent, and all thteloquence of the Representa- : correct conduct in the Chair, I distinction, doer not exist: The portico of the
been eclipsed by the superior cheapness of the British tires of the City. [A laugh.] He fancied he saw The LORD MAYOR, in a short speech, returned .i Surgeon's College 'was not 4' built by Govern,.
manufactures: but the piece goods still sold in Lon- one of them now rising in Parliament, and terrify. , Thanks to the Meeting, for the honour they had is .
i ment.
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don could not be sold at the other markets. Three- 1 ing the poor Minister/ vino) an ague-fit. He would I conferred upon him.' I Mr. Macs. appears, from his own ackitewledg. ..,
fourths of them at present are re-exported; some ! declare for himself, that he had read much, and con.. The Meeting then broke up, and the -Petition was' meats, to be a Magistrate of some . sort, though cer- l
quantity might perhaps be so from the out-ports, hut 4 sidered deeply on this subject, and yet his mind was signed by most of the persons present. fairly no judge. lie talks, with a Morning Post
theheme market must remain in the metropolis. When Iby no means made up upon it. If any body could i ' perversion of terms, of
,•c a base
.and,disingenuous
the Company talked of the number of dyers and other I show, that the trade of London -would suffer mate- i •MUILAT is said to have lost two of his fingers by
attack on the character and talents of a eking young .
tradesmen entirely dependent-upon the continuance of f tinily by the proposed extension, he might consider I the frost.. • man." -Now, it appears •to sOber men of common
their monopoly, he must allow that this would be alit a duty to his own family, 'arid to h lris fellow-citi. I -The following fraud has recently taken place at -sense, that the attack proceeded from the other
strong case if they could prove it. The Eat-India Corn- ' : zees, to oppose it. If, -however, it could not be : the Transport Office., Westminster:—One of z the"' party ; nor has Mr. Sciana'adisfoisce been conducted ,
parry appearedto him a great excrescence on the body ,shown, that there would be any loss of hide, or at clerks belonging to >, that department was absent.
1 withany thing like.bseegesitortllabgeasousness : and
politic -it might be dangerous ' indeed, to cut it off, I farthest, that-the loss would only be very Raiff, then through indispositionc and requested a friend itte:the !,ahat,Afr. giossaielk,es-stLoorieitersosiugnsort;" (the
. but 114 enta no reason. why 'tlsis greet-leonepoly ihe considered -it-his- dety toroesent tot small-yers- eflicelorOdreTif I.Vrilill'salOW as also thud. "current cant of empiricatgintrisage) remains to be
shoot& itat be' carefully eiaminea, and that ire should sonal sacrifice for the general good of the ' Eithpire. ' two other clerks, at the ape' time of payment, ged, seen, I suspect he is Talking--I moan in the public
not consider whether the evils naturally attending) .He wished that thecititensof London wouldn,etallow ' send it to his residence. The friend did so, ,and it-' estimation. A medal from the Royal Academy is
on monopoly should not be, in some degree, re. ; their minds to be carried away by clamour, or a mere chnied the money lit a letter, which he gave in chargra..alone but a sorry buttresi to a' ldwering architectu.
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moved, or at least palliated. The East India Coni, , general assertion, that the trade of London would be -to one of the messengers tot:longing to the Office to .. rat- ambition ; and the 66 abtaidant proofs of his
patty appeared to be much alarmed at losing a sinall4 ruined. He felt personally interested in the trade : deliver. The man had scarcely departed from tblio qualifications" is et present but' tni assertion of Viso.
portion of that trade which they themselves described' of London, acid in that part which related
,to inr- 1 Office, when he was accosted by a young man, ail dex, who, as he has toid: the public of the medal,
as a losing one. This, at first sight, appeared to:: ports from India. Ile was nevertheless by fib Means ! a clerk, who enquired where he was going. The - should also have stated—lf he expected thinking men i
be a fear of a very extraordinary nature. The fact l coesinced, from any thing he had yet heard, that the Man readily told him ; when the other, remarked it ,to regard him,---of what thOse abundant proofs con- :.
was, that this was a question, not only of the I trade of London would suffer by the measures pro- was a long walk (near Kennington), and he could ;.slated, and whore to find them?
greatest magnitude and importance, but of a nature i. posed Ivy Government, and was by no means' satis- 1, save him the journey, as he was then on his way to 7
i• Vindex affects to have discovered front what guar'
an pratnlstientetti *tut it ...s. h.: Ito slinitnit crtmorta liu : fins' Ilia t titttett Wnatiti lint ho so ostotaano inchasit of : tlio hones& to .......t *ha amonititY_ Re thin nrrifieif the ' .i, —.....t.:..........1 :.....o: ...ft....A..1 I would 1

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maid neCNOI eroire." . note was paid into the Bank, and Preyed t^ 1* the tionally insulting, i
way the festl Mr. WAITIIINAN, jaw. seconded tire amendment. ' same received in payment of the . dirks' salaries... 6 le met diocese en :
the freebie" -Oa the amendment being pot, • • `!* Hitherto the offender has eluded tits seam! made after Nth verevenai that
Meat, thee*: Sr W. Cams mime forward, and, ailk 'that the him. The amount it the sum he *Attained was 11131. „Inv take leave of
were so. sety wort tiennuchad made sane seeeeitOiltnedrer- , t 7s. • which, 411 said, comprised the selittei Of this eev'keiesfee) with at
Ott Clty, eclat alone City Sallisentattres, width itpfpoesvd to ' indirlduals roc she last quarter. The Itt me keit le security
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