The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-09 00:00:00

IMPERI4L

HOUSE 01$ LORDS. FRIDAY, SEPT. S.
(TWENTIETH I'm)
(Speech of Earl CRii continued front the Statesman of
yestertl.ty.)

He called on their Lonlships to view tlw case in all
its bearings. The whole of the evidence has been gone
through, and the speech of the Solicitor-lieneral has
been heard, in which he states, that the case has been
made oat; he has brought the evidence awl case to a
point ; and then he concludes by complaining that lie
could not possibly anticipate the line of defence whirl,
the Counsel on the opposite side proposed to adopt. All
this has been done, and he called on them in the spirit
of British law, in the spirit of British justice, and in
the name of common lounan;tc, not to give all the ad-
vantages to the accuser. and deprive the accused of that
protection which the humane spirit of the British law
always affords them.—(load ehms.)—.lml how have
these disadvantages been created ? By your own act.
fly the introduction of that Bill of Pains and Penalt:es,
' a measure completely anomalous to the constitution,
and which he hoped would n-ver be cited as a precedent.
—(lkar, hear.)—Yon have itufortunatrly embarked

In that Mal hnrk,
Built in the Eellper, and fraaiht wit!' esirrea dark•"

(Loud and continued cheering.)-11rre the Noble Lord
teferred to the decision, which was made by Lord Ellen-
borough in the case of Lord Coelotat.e, whose name,
although he lamented that dec;sion, he should always
regret, but that derision was never mentioned in the
presence of his dearest friends without regret. Ilere the
Noble Lord concluded a most powerful and ahle speech.,
by calling on their Lordships in the spirit of British
Justice and hettnarrite, not to &pier the wens al el tiles g
advantages, to whirl, in the contemplation of the law,
she was entitled. _

Lord Ltvutroot rose with some warmth, and said that
before he would touch the main question. he should say a
word respecting the assertion of the Noble and Learnril
Lord, that their Lordships had brought themselves
into this difficulty hr refusing the list of witnesses and
the specification of tier times and places. He never would
bear that assertion made in that !louse without repelling
it. His Lordship then proceeded at some length to de-
lend the refusal of the lists in question, and analogized
the rase to that of impeachment, in which the list was'
never given, and in which the Quern, had she been im-
peached, would have !wen tinder much greater difficulties
than those of which she now complained. In short, his
Lordship said, in no case whatever was the list ever
given ; hut in that of High Treason, the law of which
stood precisely on its own peculiar ground. Ile &Med
that the charge in this case was too general. The name
of the person was given with whom the faience oas al-
!Aged to have been co 11111 l itted, and thr charge was al-
together as specific as die case allowed it to he. Ile
affinitied that an interval would be proper, iu oriledthat
the Queen might prep. • for her defence; but who could
reasonably say, that that interval ought to he in the
middle of-the defence itself? Ile would, however, collie
at once to the essence of the question, and he con-
fessed lie should be glad to be informed whether
any comparison could be made between the in-
convenience of the delay, and that which would attend
a departure from the tiles of puhlie justice. After
paying a compliment to the highly respectable character
of the Queen's Counsel, he proceeded to observe, that if
the course they wished were permitted, the rase of the
accusation woold go forth to the world, with all die
cross-examination awl all the sifting of the evidence,
and with it the mere speech of the Counsel, not a syl-
lable of which might perhaps he rapsble of proof. The
case they might state as a defence, might be purely ima-
ginary ; and yet, it would go forth to the world, in
the company of the case of accusation, examined as it
was, cross-examined, re-examined and sifted as it was to
the very bottom. Ile would admit the inconvenience to
the Queen of the casco( the Atturneystaleneral remaining
for two months unexplained and uncontradicted. Ile
would admit the inconvenience ; lie would give in the
general argument as much as that argument was worth,
and yet he would say that the request of the Queen's
Counsel could not, with any appearance of justice, be
as-ceded to. The noire it was grappled with, the more
untenable it appeared. If the Counsel were prepared to
go on with their case at present, let them do it ; if not,
and they desired an adjournment, they should he told
that the house was ready immediately to grant them
that adjournment. He saw no other course their Lord-
ships could pursue ; there was no medium between these
two propositions—either that the Counsel should di-
reedy proceed and continue to the close of their case, or
that their Lordships should • ediately adjourn. Hut
lie most positively declared, that according to his notions
of justice and impartiality they could not allow the de-
fence to he divided.
Lord Lis:snow:es did not understand what was pre-
cisely the motion before the House, and he begged the
Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, to give him
information as to what lie conceived to be the question
for the consideration of the House.
The Loan CHANCKLLIOR said, that he understood the
proposition of the Noble Lord (Liverpool) was, that
Connsel should be called in and asked as to the course
they desired to pursue with respect to them.
A conversation ensued between Lords Oast and Ll-
vsaroot., which was carried on across the table, and
was totally inatadilsle below the liar; after which there
was a pause of several minutes, duringwkich time Lord