The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-06-15 00:00:00

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hog,. _ wit _ _ airy 4 lievlas.—
PieAin. offikotesnore and Rlatheierickiin dm Mom of
k • . , slko woitl4 dot is MOW' * this
ni of t. _ ilk redredy; g_it ethl4. have hoes *beat. n‘
gimillitiallgitter- The ' retiticuer stated that
let ' for oT athertisk.'io the More*. of Peter-
eerrer
fitrengli, it bring obliged to reside on his other Lir-
hed
itigi he 4001 it iteeeesary to present a person to
"Print eir hi CM* at Slatherwick, and had applied to
*he Risks, of lAiiteee for a license for that purpose;
*tilt the IndivldM whom he tints presented had sub-
!teethed his name several times to the Thirty-nine MA-
W. and was ready egale'to do so, but that the Right
Re . Prelate not satisfied with this test, bad tendered
Yi ty-enen "testifies °This own to 'him. and requited
itith to give dirpcf answeri tO celery one of them, on ail-
ing to its which the Nettie bed heel refused. He thee
romplained that the Right Rev. Prelate had ordered him
(the petitioner) to nominate another Curate, and threat-
ened to do so himself if it wis not done immediately.
lie shoes( that he had made eh appeal to the Arch-
bishop of Canterbury, from whom no answer had been
received on the first application. On a second. how-
trerAsis Grace-Lad replied that it was evidently the
right-of the Bishop to examine the Clergy whom be
'licensed . within his own diocese. The Petitioner'
(therefore prayed that their Lord Ships would interpose
in any manner which they might think fit to prevent
Ate recurrence of such a practice. Ile (Lord King)
wished that the grounds of objection against the per-
son recommended as a Curate had bees distinctly
stated. He admitted that the power of examination
.had been properly given to Bishops, as it was nee's-
s:sty
.That they shoulil see that only fit persons should
be received within the pale of the church ; but he asked
'coy one it he had read those 87 questions—nay, hr asked
'the Right Rev. ?relate himself, whether they could Gone
•
;fide Ise used for the purpose of examining the abilities
vot the Candidate for Holy Orders? A Clergyman was
-railed upon • by the law sithseeibe to the 39 Articles,
-but the Right Rev. Prelate said, you may subscribe
•tlsem, but unless you also subscribe my 'B7 questions
xou shall not be ordained or licensed in my Diocese.—
lie had beard this new system of examination called, cob-
webs to catch Calvinism ; but the Metaphor teas incor-
reet, for the ilymight have some chalice of escape, but
ti.e unfortunate Calvinist had none.' It was a system,
t,f e tendency of Which was to produce a schism in the
Clureli : for if one Ps elate put his own interpretation on
,11. e thirty-nine article in one Diocese, another might
r,:t sedifferent interpretation tipoothem, and various re-
' t.gious codes might thus be established in different
Dioceses. He should have thought that the Right Key.
"P elate opposite, who was the greatest controversalist of
. the are, would have perceived the danger of creating
sillitision in the Church, and would hare left his goes-
-„Crins alone. Ile concluded by moving, that the Petition
he read, and expressed his intention 'ot afterwards Imm-
o:iv, that it be laid on the table.
Tbe Petition haring liven read,
ghe Bishop of PETERBOKOITOII stated, that the
?Pti.titioner had not been satisfied with this appeal to their
Lordships, but had printed and published his ease two
wont las ago. It was therefore incumbent upon him (the
.; tt:sltop Of P.) to explain the real facts of that case, and
to lay his own in their Lordship's hands. The right of
e...ansination had been originally contested by the Pei- I
• Lure, and by the person whom he hail nominated as
his t unite. lint after that person had liven 'ejected, the
.1-rtitioner had nominated another on the 20th of Sep-,
t. &wit, ISM who hail submitted withont hesitation to
ti.e examination required. As the result of this exami-
,!riiition haid proved satisfactory, and Isis moral character
Vas good, the new curate had been immediately licensed.
. • He atilt held that situation, and there was no wish tin the
„part 'of the parishioners that he abould be removed.
hrery thing hating thus been settled, he (the Bishop of
,t P.) wt., not a little astonished, when six mouths after
: ti e Petitioner informed him that he intended to bring
,• I :s case before the Hoist% The Petitioner now seemed
to' are changed his growl. lie no longer objected to
IV: examination, hut to its mode. The 44th Canon had
•tt the mode of examination at the ilescretion of the
!•
1•-IllIsh,p, and bad very properly prescribed none. Now,
~ Ite cant-dyed that the mode of examination most Wee-
; teal to ascertain the religious opinions and belief of
candidates for Holy Orders, was that -which he had
.
. ..dOpted. It was well talented to check sonic im-
., roper opinions Which Ws-ailed in his diocese. He had
..ie I it ever since he had Leen a Bishop, and had never
he. ri any objection made to'it until about IO months ago.
•• "the qamtlons whirls he proposed, were not to be an-
iwereil on the-moment, hut at leisure and with full cos-
• .•
toder.ition. If he found that some differed from him its
. He meaning which they attached to particular points hen
. ot v.-r rejected them without explaining to them the,
grounds.of his objections, and he hail sometimes sue-
•Eitedeil in rivalling those individuals to the real sound
• Outdoes-of the Church. He had• only rejected those
'elm had persevered in the erroneous opinions which
Miry had imbibed. The three principal allegations of
thl•Pctitioner,—that he bail established a new Standard
—that he required subscription to it,--and that this
ifiex Standard was contrary to the 39 Articles, were to-
-Itally devoid of truth. It was objected to him that his
,•que"tions formed no test of abilities. They were not in-
'tended to be a test of abilities, but of doctrines. lie did,
. not want to know the abilities of persons nominated as
• ('orates; thee hail been ascertained at their ordination.
lie wetted toltnow their doctrines. !hiring the whole
time that be had used those examinations,, the number
of • those 'to whom heiiad refused otilination was one;
Cu! number of wheat he had refused to license to one
also ; and the number of those Oho had been rejected
because they would not answer at all, to only two.—,
This tees the mighty grievance for which the. House 4
Peers was to be pot in inoti•e! He meld confidently as.
WTI. *lit time questions were approved of by the mit
body of thoLlergv. hyenas, thee mere a cheek on fame,
• **sta. fro* MIA the Church Lad ,move to dread Cat:

Lordships ttpon h,
earl GREY eintentlesk that the Petition tiros tf tolie
ontortahted by their Lot4sbips. lie apptiehei 'there!
fore, that it fill withio the posvince of Parlit ako
dress bis Majesty, to hank by virtue of his Royabaasho
tity, an order to any Bishop to discontinua t tilletk of
examination eskoloted to destroy the snits, of the
Church. The avowed efforts of the Hight Ile4. Prelate
to occlude Calvanist• frets the ChOrch *ere thtrefore—

_ _
The Bishop of PETERBOROUGH declared tbgt be
bad said no such thing. He had nothing to do o ith
Calvanism. His sole object was .to detect deviations
from the doctrines of the Established Church.
Earl bREY contended, that it was impossible not
to see that those deviation Imola involve Calvinists,
and that the object of the questions was to exclude
them. fle thought that the Petition ought to be en-
tertained, and if it were necessary to proceed further,
but he trusted that after what hod passed that night,
the good sense of the Right Rev: Prelate would render
proceeding further unnecessary. • •
Lord CALTHORPE explained.
_ _

The Marquess of LANSWYNNE lamented that any
rondust should have been pnrsu-d • tending to narrow
the broad basis established by the Charch,, anal
trusted that in future tile discretion of the Right
Reverend Prelate would be niefully exertid on that
point.
the question was then put, and negatived without
a division.

papers, . p
cured the sat'd
Orton to snake amiffidavit, and published
,the followioje advertisement:—
„ "•_,Constitaitiosal Association for opfusing the pro-
gress of. disloyal atid'aeslitions principle'. ..At a asset-
log of the osounistea bald at the office, its Eltidep-allmot.
Jute 6, IS2I. The committee having sets, umoagit
other unlimoded mid erroneous statements lately laid
before the pablie, a litter signed " Edward King," in-
"riled in The 7PirsesanolMorntng Chronicle newspapers
of ti.i.• flay, rrhiting to the purchase .of the several
pacts of a publicatidn on the lfith of May, but the first
part of which had been publicly exposed for sale at
his shop, in.l bought of hint on the preceding day; rr-
ectived, that the hallowing copy of an affidavit made 11%
Horatio Orton, a clerk of the associatiott, upon the sub-
ject of F.dworil King's statement, be advertised in ski
papers.: (live erder of tbeiconunittee) J. B. Sharp, Ho-
norary Assistant-Secretary.
[For this affidavit, see our journal of the 7th inst.]
"'That your petitioner feeling perfectly altonislied at
the falsehoods contained in the said advertisement, im-
mediately made the following affidavit in answer:—
[Foe the snbstance of this affidavit see 1;4 Staleness
of the Sth inst.]
" Your Petitioner humbly submits to your honourable
!sonar, that the allegation of the said Horatio Ottell,
that on the 16th of May lie inquired of Your petitioner
who was the publisher of the copies of the mill Poetical
Dictionary, that he might proenre thrum from hums, rouse
necessarily be untrue, because the name of the publisher
is printed• in large letters on the first leaf or title page
thereof, and also because the said Horatio Orton wen,.
on the worming of the 17th day of May, before the thaw
Jury sitting at Westminster, and preferred a long in-
dictment, and was the sole ngainst the said
publisher. on account of the publication of the said work,
and whirls indictment must have been in preparation'
jorevions to the said 16th slay of May.
"• That your Petitioner and his solicitor have used
their utmost diligence, and taken great pains to discover
who were the persons who put forward the said boy,
Horatio Orton, to prefer the said indictment against'
your petitioner, in order that your petitioner might be
enabled to adopt legal proceedings against them, bat
hitherto without affect, as the acting members of the
said ap4oriatiun have taken rare to conceal the nausea of
the persons by whose authority their numerous prosecu-
tions are instituted.

•• That inasninch as your petitioner ran neither pro.
secntr, nor phial) the names of the real authors of the
said proceedings against him, nor be safe from the wick-
ed machinations of the said association or their hired
informers.iii the ordinary course of law.
" Your potitioner humbly prays your honourable
loise, that as he has no means at law of obtaining in-
formation who -his prosecutors were, and as your peti-
tioner has always understood it to be a maxim of the
constitution of 'England, that there is no wrong with-
out a retnedc, your honourable house will he pleased to
adopt sorts measures as to your wisdom may seem meet
for the discovery of the authors and abettors of the
said proceedings against your petitioner,
" And your petitioner will ever pray." 1
The petition was ()Werra to be printed.
Mr. t;.k IV ER presented a Petition from South-
wark, in favour of the Bill fur punishing cruelty to'
Animals.

I.IOOCII supported the petition, aml read a let•
ter from a friend, describing an instance of brutal
conduct in a carter towards a horse of his master.

The Petition was then ordered to be ['tinted.
PCOTCII SURIMS.

Lord A. HAIIIIIXON bronglit up the Report of the
Committee on Scotch Burghs. The Noble Lord said,
that although as Chairman of the Committee he present-
ed the Report, he did not assent to its contents. Ile
complaimel that a majority of the Committee had not
obeved.the orders of the House, inasmuch as they bad
not gone into a fair and foil investigation of the subject.
If the liouse.wonld order the production of the Minutes
•of the proceedings taken before the Committee, it world
then Ise seem lie hail not peeforreel a groundless com-
p!aint. The. House would hr surprised to learn, that
the Report had been prepared during an absence of ten
dal s' leave, which he had obtained from the House.
Lord BINNING said lie had no intention to oppose
-the produciiou of the Minutes. The Report was the
'Report of the Committee, and not of the Chairman. He
was leirare that courtesy allowed the Chairman to pre-
pare the Report, but it waseon the other hand, not very
usual fur a Chidraian to absent himself for a fortnight
at the most important part of the proceedings. The
Committee had concluded its labours, and he trusted
the question would not be revived,as the Report pointed
out a complete and practical remedy for every real
abuse which had been the,stsbject of.auy Petition.
Mr. ARP.ILCROHBY said, the usual courtesy of a
Committee towards its Chairman had been violated, and
it was impossible under ail the uircunistauces to say that
it had acted with fairness.

Lord BINNING explained.
(.t Message 'from the Lords here announced their
Lord hips' assent to several Bilk.)
-Sir GEORGE CLERK said, the supposed want of
courtesy of the Noble Lord was explained, from the
circumstance of the advanced period of the Session,
anti tlit; necessity fur the Committee making an early
Rep;yr.
Sir ft; FERGUSSON said, the Members who had
ts.kep a Ipartienlar view of-the subject no doubt had
aetctl consisteatly, for they invariably resisted inquiry
into every abuse. •
Av. K. DOUGLAS thought, that if the suggestions
,ot tile Report were acceded to, every real abuse would
te removed.
alts HUME thought the .complaint .01 his Noble
ii?ienelltsord A. Hamilton) as to a want of courtesy,
ifasa.peyeetly wtll foutideil. lie (Hr& Hume) had
i..attenticsi mertings.4ll the Commipee; but he was
• _ .

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Friend In his pines, or he ahooW nigh hit. Ifietibss..ol.
Rill wit to to tie on that night, and alt, riles h
was to be discussed felly Ity lb* Hlet•
The Woollen Swap Unties Bill was passed., •
Lord MILTON seeing so lion. Member, the (Age.
luau of the Agricultural Committee place, ehith
be had not often the honour of doing, he trishell to
ask him,. whether the Report of that Committee um
likely o be mail, in the present Session.
Mr. (lULM.:II said, gnat the Report woull be made
as soon aspeasible. Ile tunsa absers-e, that the Nob)"
Lord had nlways chosen to put this question when be
(Mr. ti.) was out of thelLinse, although he might bare
found him preheat at ant. other Hope.
Lord MILTON could assure the Hon Alemher, that
he hail looked with all his eyes to find him, and iktras
beiefore nut right to say that he bad chosen the tires
when he wan absent.

AI r. 6001;11.—" It is a matter of tact."

Mr. DICKENSON presented a Petition front Wal-
cott. itt the County of Somerset (as we untirrstoo4)
against the Poor Relief.—Ordered to he printel.

Petitisin was presenteJ from Battersea, in favow
rf the Bill for preventing the ill-treatment of Ilona.
.11r serjeantONSLOW presenteJ a re.ition keel
!lir parish of St. Mary's, Newington, to the sot
effect.

Each Petition to be printed.
•
WATFA VoMPANIIII.
Mr. FREEMANTLE said, he held in his ham! a NI
for regulating the supply of Water to the Metropellt.
The Honourable Member entered into an explanation of
Ithe proceedings which bad taken place before the Coo-
-1 Witte, and stated that the Bill was in strict conformity
to its opinions. From the advanced state of the Sea-
Mon he could not hope that the Bill would be carried
' through all its stages, but lie wished to introduce it in
order that the Hawse might become acquainted with Its
objects, with a view of its being carried into effect open
a future occasion.
After a few words from Mr. SC.%ILtTT and Mr. Hume,
leave was given to bring In the Bill.

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