The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-07-01 00:00:00

Mr. l'ANNtsc. observed, that the great point lie
'.ishcd to urge was, that the eke:it's' of Mr. Ellis
should not he considered void, hut that it should be
opt ioual with him either to continue to discharge the
duties of his office as hitherto, or make a provision for
retaining his seat.
Sir .1. \horroa '. repeated, that the clause would in-
capacitate him from sitting in Parliament so long as
he acted as Master in l'hancery.
Mr. CAosion.—But the election is to be good.
Sir J. Nowromr.—Ves, the electiou is to be good.
Air G. HILL considered this not as a clause but as a
resolution, aril the effect of it would certainly he to
prevent all Masters in Chancery front sitting or voting
in that Honse.—(Cries of " No, no!"}—Ile hail un-
iloulotedly understood that such wombd he the effect of
it. It was the very first time of his life that lie had
heard a Resolution proposed during a pending elec.
tien, the object of %itch was to exclude our of the
eandidates in the first osiitance. But he would ask the
Rijht Ilan. Baronet if his intention in bringing for-
ward this resolution was nut to throw out Mr. Ellis
and bring in Mr. lirattati? This lie believed was
really the design of this clause or resolution. Mr.
Ellis was in all respects ipodifieil; and without refer-
Inc to the incouveniences which must result to the
itiams of Dublin front a new election, lie should ask
the Right lion. Baronet if it was decent, if it was
seemly or proper., that Mr. Ellis should he disqualified,
who appeared to be the favourite candidate with the
electors In fact, he considered the resolution as no-
thisit less than an outrage upon all decency, and
therefore should protest against it.
?Sir J. MACIIIN7O2III would not now inquire whether
it was consistent with candour, with fairness, or with
common SLIM, that an individual should be allowed
to occupy two places at the same time, each of whieb
required the most unremitting attention. There was
no necessity for giving any notice of this measure to
Mr. Ellis, the testimony given on a former occasion
by Mr. Ellis himself was enough to w that he must
have been aware, when hr offered self as a candi-1
dat. for Dublin, that he could ably discharge
Iris duties in the double capacity • her of Puha-
tiirmt and Master in Chancery.—(liar, bear!}—This
testimony came from the very lips of Mr. Ellis; and
it nal a very singular way for his friends to support
him by contradicting his evidence.—(Hear, hear D—
II e thought it must extraordinary that any Alessiber
should stand up in that House and 'Unapt to defend
so barefaced, so unconstitutional, and so shameful, or
rather 'hawks-, a principle. The Hon. and Learued
filember concluded by designating the principle in
qiestion as most absurd and monstrous.
Lord Casrtene tow explained.
The Cr tsicrhaisa of the NXCIIZQUEa said a few
sends, uliich were nut distinctly audible in the gal-
lery, but we understood theui to be fur establishing
the validity of the election.

Mr. C ALIWA Fr spoke briefly in support of the clause.
Sir G. lir Lt. explained.
The question was they put and carried without a
dis ision, and the Committee was in‘tructed accordingly.
The House went into a Committee on the Bill.
Sir J. Neuronr brought up the clause rendering
Masters in Chancery in Ireland ineligible to seats in
this House after the Ist of August next.
Colonel Banns proposed that this clause should
tie. extend to Uentlemen elected before the passing of
this Act ; and made some observations in support of
this provision.
Sir J. Nis PORT contewled for the necessity of the
clause.
Mr. DALT thought the clause would produce grses
b3ri.hip in the particular case of Mr. Ellis.
Dr. Putwoons and Dr. Lusiimirrom spoke In fa.
sour of the clause.
Mr. NOLAN thought the clause fraught with the
deepest injustice, in the particular case of Mr. Ellis,
tho•tgh he had no objection to the general principle.
Mr. R. MARTIN declared his determination to vote
fir the clause. He thought, in fact, that Mr. Ellis,
his own evidence, bad disqualified himself. If Mr.
Kllis were allowed to sit in Parliament, why not the
other four Masters in Chancery -:—(Hear!)
Mr. WELmsne supported the clause.
Colonel BARRIS said he was not personally ac-
quainted with Mr. Ellis; but it should be recollected
that Mr. Ellis bad purchased his office for 10,0001.,
and it appeared to him that it would be unjust to ren-
der hiss ineligible to a seat in the House. The office
of Master in Chancery was saleable in Ireland some
years ago, though not so now.
Sir .1. NZIIIPURT had no objection that Mr. Ellis
should be excepted, provided the suitors in Ireland
ware protected from injury, by having Mr. Ellis pro-
vided for in snore other way.
After a few words from Mr. R. Msavtst, Mr. No-
LAN. Sir J. Nam:cross'. Mr. WRO rTIIIILST, Mr. BA-
RINU. Sir J. YORIIt. Lord PALPlsasurox, and Mr. M.
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. - . Uri 4iewrawasaaer said, that he had Idabel' OP I
clause to be trained in such a wanner as not to exclude
Mr. Ellis ; and if, upon further examination, it should
be Assad the awe in question was incompatible with
the performance of the duties in this !louse, it might
be remedied by an Address to the Crown. Indeed,
ultimately, perhaps an Address would hare the same
elect as if the clause now proposed were carried.
Mr. Antiaraousiv contended, that It would be a
great injustice to the suitors in Ireland to allow Mr.
Ellis to be absent from his duties fur so long a portion
of the year as his duties In Parliament woad rwydre.
Sir J. Plitwroom bad so disrespect whatever tom&
Me. Hills; and so leaf as two months ago hi taut#•
tiosed his iateadea it iacorporatiog such a clastie as
this la the pressat Bill.
Mr. rinITSS recollected a debate la this House, e•
the jeestiee, whether a pone* is orders (Mr. Hone
Tooke) eheeld he snowed to Ws la this Hoes*. It was
decided that be should est be allowed to sit is the
Meese; bet It was agreed that that decision should
set have Abet veil the easelag Parliament, beseass
by his dada he had a vested right, whish it wee set
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