The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-02-26 00:00:00

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present a Petition to the Howe. Elliclosed,inibe. P.
was a letter Omegas, to Mee hem soot to hie
from the Member for Limerick, hut for the genuine-
ness of which be could glee rio opinion, though it
bed all the 'sternal and Informal marks of aothenti.
city. Tb. Petitioner said he bad been motto New.
gate far a breach of privilege, though there was no
preof that he lied met the letter lei Mr. Quin, who
was not moo named init. The letter *misled in the
Petition, sod perportiag to come from. the Member
for Limerick, was dated " Adore, Nov. 2, sod
stated that the writer coold.em forget the. kinginn s
shown him by Mr. Grady is his early years, that an
soupy correspinedesee bad takes piece betimes
thee ; and that tbmigh he (the writer) was chi
Postlyr, yet the ether wu the mesh abler man.
The letter coseloded, " yeses very truly," Mid had
she name of .he Hem. Member sobacribid. Another
letter was dated the 18th of Diceetrier. The Peti.
tioner stated, that he hadisMier received the letter
read by Mr. (bin lest night. His sow was only 22
years Mate, and vMs unit& to condriitt emit a bed.
ems ; so test If the ?Washer simehl set be llbe-
mtvd. the end. Misstate Would bi frestisted. He
(the Petitinser) had welted for the derision of the
Heuer, upon shoes justice sod cleintscy Le threw
himself.

M►. QUIN mid he had we Millet/its to stow the
!rum, steeled no with to visit lbe sia• Olio NAN
upon the am. No soy wished more thaw Mama that
the prisoner shield ha mildly dealt with.
The Petition was tats brought ep. road, bad or.
dosed to lie on the •able, and to be printed.
Mr. HUTCIII ViON had not' witted last night for
the commutotent of the prisoner, oho had Welted for
the &rising of the iloote. Ile proposed at an early
thy to roll the attention of the Hesse to his ease.—
Motley was., list earned, whkh was Illeroards al-
tered. to 10.111W14011 (this day).
A MEMBER, *hose memo we geoid int Into;
said that the solo of the. Ileum had begot that Om
primme► had been committed by as oaaolosoos wpm;
sod, he t►ought • ono obi had BMW the House
should mot b• set at liberty after an imprisoismest of
ossly two days.-Trot motion was Ikea fled for to.
morrow.

A person frees the Ceesetisaftesen for the Roderop.
Hee of Ilia Nasirseal Debt presented an argosies of the
geometry of debt redwood for the lest yesr.
Thy rondderaelon of the Drogheda Election
Lion yes postpospeci sill the 27th of April.

W lISOR EgT11111.11S11)11iNT.
Lent CASTLEREAGH aimed Ih► OrAor of the
Dur for 'skint into consideration the Iteport on the
Wiedent Ketablishortit.

Tee Itepert *Ns then reed.
...._

The prevines Resolutions having been .treed In,
sod the Res°lotion, for the grant of 10,0001. a year
to Om Dike of York. having bees read, •
Mr. CUILIVIiN said, that be had hoped a dig.
I.llllloof wrint.l AM been trade, on the port of the
Duke of York, of aey sets,' for sorh • grant. All
most feel regret that such a step had been taken, and
that the Duke of York "heel.' haw• felt more OHL
rally 111 tilting ouch a runs from the Privy Purse than
from that of the Publir. Bit the geertinit was one
of iroperioes duty. Ile moat readily edesitted that
no considerations of economy ihoold be allowed to
treed open the comfort of the Sovereign. The con.
duct of the Doke of York could in no +ay he affect-
ed by any pecuniary grant, awl there could he 110
want of orroairlwration for the King in shy vete of
thit nature. lie most cheerfully admitted the meek
of the Duke of Yotk since he lied returned to the
I...messed of the form, and that he had fulfilled the
dotiel of that high office with equal honour to him.
sal( and advantage to oho country. Bet he 'neat alas
awe that the office of Commander in Chief was now
in time of pew.; and he (Mr. C.) was bound, as a
Alearther of Parliament, to look to the consideration
that tho Dike received for his services from Ili .
try. The total amount of the eennlarnents of Ike
Rojo! Duke myit he equal to 60,0001. a year; he
Lad therefore. no need of any additional lucerne,—
lie knew of an addition that could be merle to his
espences by the office of Guardian of the King's Per.
ton, atir.pt parati•ig from London to Windsor, which
costal not veered the ram of 5001. a year, which was
too paltry to be atorstiotord. All must be sensible of
thr. neces.ity of 'rummy, sod epee that point there
could he no diffmeoce of opinion. The Noble Lord
npposite 'Weld have recollected the Vol*, of last
Sfllioll, 0111 be subject of Greats to the Princes, sod
might have derived a lesson from these Votes, which,
in one point of view, might appear niggardly epee
the present occasion. For himself, be could entree
sent to vote a single 'billies upon this easels's; of
the duties of the nice would be gully bell dis-
charged without lite Grant as with it, and 'Aosta err-
(airily lake the wpm of the Hesse upon the °met.
Mr. F. ROBINSON entirely concernd with the
last speaker, as to the services of dm Doke of York
Its Commander-10.041.f. Bat if the Weir" of the
Royal Duke in that capacity were to be kept out
of view, as else ought the reeseneretiew for thew
services. The gentian fee the weeiderstiew of the
Bowe was, did not the office created by Act of Par.
lianomst impose new defies open lice Royal bike,
while the allowances be received were for duties of's
totally distinct character. It had been argued that
the Doke should perform the duties of the office
without a salary. The Doke at present did perform
the duties without any certainty as to the decision of
the Rom. The last speaker had said a lesson should
have been taken Irom the votes of the last year; bet
the objection had then only been to the @moue' .1
Ibe past and not to the principle; in the preload
case the principle itself was contested. The defies
imposed by the Act related to the King in his cape.
city of Sovereign, and with a view to his return to
sanity. Though, in the present case, that might be
Aeries', yet it was necessary that a precedent theald
be established with reference to the recurrence of a
similar east. A precedent hail been established in
theca* of the late Queen, and to that the House
*tight to look es to a precedent dust might be safely
followed.—( Bear !)

Mr. HERMAN ;melded theq•estion as import-
ant, from the conaidetation that it would form •
precedent for future times. He was, however; of a
very rlilferent opinion from the last speaker. and
thought the qemtion quits open for the decision of
the Hoot& Th. Noble Lord opposite bad end's.
toarlsofintimodato ato Hawse by • threatmf infamy,
mad tbir Member for the epitomic, of Otrcrd had

employed all the powers of his iddgetiair; •nd r.
teak, as if it had boils his object to miptiee.• a laity ,
not to enlighten s Legislative Aaniettily. The me..
sage of the Doke of York stlnilttml, that the Res&
hid a sight to assign the sem in question frees the
Privy Perm. The Member for Osford had, ea e
hornier 'veiling, given the ll•ioadr a sort of seati.
mental joereel epee the subject of the preambles
to the dilfereat Acts of Perliameet ; het it appeeisd
to him to be amble to tura the liberality of the
People against thesselvds ; tad, after sissy years
of menlieesice, to come to Parliament for i grant of
10,0001. to enable e sit to discharge his duty to his
father.—{User. hear.la—The Dahl of York had
reedited meek from en relented sod heavily bur-
dened People. The allice went t. Impitee no daisy
that a son wis not' bound le prior* towards di
father; sad the only precedent for this runt sei-
sms ma, the groat to We. Isle Queen, gigiost which
his Right Rellearallle Felted (Mr. Tiereq) had
stremeausly pretested. Thi dellee of the elido bad
never bens heard of till the calory had been sisesid.
—A Leila lame leo bed Mee atstgam.l, though the
live Reglisbaseme of Giardina was equally sigoillimet.
Caumisel bed bee* appointed' to assist the flute, and
they bill, he supposed, most hoes a Salary.—(lider.
At/r!)—No doubt could alit al to the right, se
weft a the Otteelionseet, la tett the dummy
frees • the Privy Sr,'Purse, either le petit et Ism or
polity. Parilaelienr. secordirt is the Nob% Lead
opposite, world require to be pretlicted eseitst the
lohmews atiooetty 'of the fereme naming, se coo.
temptible in ;mist of numbers, of tuleati tad of coo.
eldellatioa to the errantry. It miett be said. list
10.U001. oohs a trilling end coatemptibleimill Set lie
teeM wet be breeght to coesider it so, whilst be
nes at,. the Cliseedier if the Ritcheqtre* amid
Oaf al present point eat fay tit by Mach he amid
We* that sole.--Ili allowed that a redaction
had mite.* place be the espenditade ;'et ear hi-
Ce.oll is, not viral se our oetteinga ; eltheesti vide
sere now in the Ifth yds, of peeve; sad tee had Pill
many objectionable end 'moque! ersr.teite retintia-
Ing, many of mom veestlnes in the retiree.. Be el.
hided porticulerly to she stump al reform, sad le..
Rely duties, and these, sod other lases might to bo
illoisii•Sed by every possible means. !tome resold
ought to he paid also, to whet •ould hate been the
opinion of ear anterior'', Paulette Metier* lied
he retehied his feeeltiei. Coleldi he knew the glory
ti is enotitry hail /tilted, end the sacrifices the Noe
palls had made to gale it, he we, convinced, est ea.
nerahle S:orereign, looped of concealing twenewevs-
eery hardens tieing leht no the People, woold ham
pedaloes!, " For God's sok. Tare my People:*
t iecb amid bare Kern* hip Mejetry's topknots, sad
such, he oesrenviticed, Would be the opinion of the
Doke of York, end every wale, isellitridual of Ono
illustriosa Family,•hut for the t igeere,ed Mate-
m.iits which had bran mode ea the sehjem of the
reveres's state of the country. •
Mr. PEEL midi a few words In esplanation W Mt
speech on s fortrei night. lie kid aen been wised,
:lay she (dos: aged Learned Geolleama, of goalies pre.
stables of Acts of • Palliation/1, and k girded
la syntimeniat jne.may through them. Ile inbred the
' Hon. Gentleman his journey had been u tedious jeer-
! Hey, anal he had selected lb. best cosipeny he coed
to beguile the war.

M.. BARPIF:I4T was la favour of Ow gnat of
10.0001. in lls• Doke.

Mr. M 4 RTI N. of Gslvey, had been seeded to
by the Honoenble sod loomed Grudging, (Mr.
Dustmen), who had rerretentml him es saying he was
convinced, if the rob was adrire4ord from the hest.
legs in Coeent.gsrdn, they wield mete fee Ingmar
of 10,0001. Ile dosed basing said be would address
the mob. HP had void he wield address the pope-
lotion of E: =lend from the hewing,. Ile did en
mean the mob of Caeent.garden-aearkur he sum
the Nobility. the Gentry, eed the Tradesmen of
Londort. There he Irooltdered vs a fair sample et
the popelarion ; anti he bed said he wee eseviseed
they wield he is hewer ef Ike greet.--(ffeer!)—
The Hen. Gentleman tepested his funny arguments
le favour .f the great Is the Doke of Tat, whkk
is said he wield eeppert by his vele.
Mr. BURNELL regretted that the Illestrine
Doke theeld hamf beam ties dragged before In
llospee. It was dime by Mielthers, end use
Right Hosseumble Friend who mewed e
en • former night. They *weld net ham objected
to the grant hem the Privy Porte—that name MI.
nine,, beclresisted ; sad be did not think that the
sole himself and his hinds had given ea a former
eight 'preeleded their miss en the reseal enseleas
Mr. COOPER denied that the present nestle*
I was one fer taking the menu out of the pockets of
lb. Public. On the contrary, greet toeless heel
bees made le the Windsor Establishment, sad the
gentles was, whether the Gesfos should sew hen
the teen allonym which her late Majesty bed fdr
bidding the tame diet. Was the Duke ef Turk tee
have say allewane ; if he woe to hose any think
meld he have • lees sem the* 10,0001? Ile, for
en, meld Net bet think Misisters had gen to the
sena verged redaction he the Wiadser
meet, If they had not gone blind it. He Mann
mere aught tie ham been given t. ithe King's meek(
solvents, many of wheat bad teem is his engin fir
upwards of 40 pers. •
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- Mr. GORDON, a new Member, supported the
green, bin spoke is so low Indistinct a tone, we
coedit not collect Ai, argument.
Mr. WI ILI AMS sound set ogre, to put this gees.
Lion open lin love sod respect •• bore Is sir re.
vend Monarch. It that was the question, be arse
consigned tho country would go any length; bet 14
could not poici4ve how bertheslog the People sines
grant elf 10.0001. a )ear to that Craos wowed add to
Ni, Majesty's enneforts.—(llear, lesar!)—The Hoe.
G•ntleassi etield net 'gent to the doctrine thee oho
Privy P.n. wits priest, property; wither could Is
siren to the Heron of-ilir Getwaittete that bed gone
intirthe roissaine of Illsjeatt)'s entwines, stain
•sootl lashing u•seteject Wine discossion the oz.
pence's of Ais Me jetty !a prow Nl ens, sod ewes his clothes
and Coneeneo sOcitsiories. With rairprst to the al-
lowance to tits Costes, the late Mr. Permit, •
greater or were couselenti•os wen them wins this

reentry sever produced, whoa I a propelled the ems
or 10,0001.1 e her Majesty, ea Caster, eel 4, It •ee
lotsetdod to 111111.0“ arbor purports dee. Mr. POMP'
eel, dere/ins or usideood 10 0001. am aa•e thew a vs?.
driest taw; be sew tread I. that aphis. lla

thought the Gatos mat entitled in something, 'booth
be eontitleved 10,000 t. as too mach, sad should now
therefore move as an amendment, that instead of
10,0001. a earn of WOOL should he granted to his
)to at Highness the Doke of York as Coutes fiersorear

of the Klieg.
This Amendment being seconded, was pet from

the Chair.

Mr. LONG WLIVIC.:LEY agreed, in a greet
measure eith nbat had•faren hew the lest speaker.
could not bet confider 10,0001. es toe meat,

especially when it was ;41i,cellected that in sifts,
wbeo Ys. Perusedproportyll that sees, he 'Wed,
that it was for other prposes, as well as to
defray the espences of the Castes; and he was not
aware, that on the present occason the Doke of
York was to be rroonototod for any ,ether espindl-
len *seeps that arising out of the Mike be was about

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to talk. open himself.
L.rd EBRINGTON considered tho present as
ono of the most teeniest and autreasoneisie &moods
that ever was wads no Ilse libeislity of Parliament.

The Noble Lord uttered as 'illations ea the chaise.
ter of Ms R. al Highness, se Comesasider in Chief.
For his coutlect in that shoaling', he was entitled to
the public gratitude; bet that illestriues person's
bitterest assay could Doe hate devised a course MOM
likely than the pretend to hurl his sweats Wingsi or
to Wier* his public character. He was coavieced
the Poblit. 1.11011 re”st readily pay any repine* to
which the Doke might actually be pet in the discharge
of his treat; but awned it wee shows to him that these
'spencers amounted to the sum now proposed by the
Noble Lord. be must oppose the Grant.
Mr. GOFF considered the Codas as a public
Officer, and es tech he green to be paid by the Pub-
lic. The Hoes. ought tint to consider the mime,
bet the appointments ; and oe that principle be did
sot consider 10.0001. as too large a sem.
Mr. W. HARVEY did not coesider that even dee
distresses of the country would prose auy remise for
not giving the Carlos that remuneration which the
person bolding the office, when that oaks was con.
sidered, was entitled to: bet, in coesideriug this
office, he could not separate the office and the Doke
of York. He could not Set recollect that the Doke
of York was the see of the Kies, and as such, was
selected for this high sod important office; he could
pot but recollect tint, as the goo of the King, he
was re:living Isrge sums of the public money ; that
be bad an allowance of 18,0001. besides his salary
as Commander.in•Chief ; and hod received, at dif-
ferent times, grunts from the Droits of Admiralty.
Under these circumstances, the question with him
was, le bother his Royal Highness was to have;
any 'nowise" or noels. He could not agree;
in the mode which had bees adopted, of making ;
his Majesty's expeaditere a subject of public dis-
evades in every public-house in the kingdom,:
where every one might descaat es the "'posses ,
.f his kitchen, or scan our the seething of
the charge of his stables. He thought this tripod.;
lion was degrading to the Royal Family, sod to a ;
free, "obi*. and amorous People. The seat Com-
mittee would, in all ptobebility, be one to enquire
into the sappers of the Castor, and to point oat at
what homers oe the Windsor reed the rats of posting
was most moderate. This was a course he could not
agree to. The office of Cantos would receive no
dignity from salary. If a gaiety was to be voted at all,
be considered that it should be one suited to the dig-
nity of the office, and not oleo coofieed to mere Ira.
velliog 'sp'or't.—[Laud coughiag.]—He bad de-
clared his opinion, that it would have been better
this vete had not been proposed at all ; but, for the
reasons he bad mentioned, he isooM not support the
amendment any more than the original motion. One
word he had to add, and that was, that he should
always construe coughing into cheerit g, and never
be pet down or prevented uttering his smstimeets as
coast:inst. directed.—[hear, hear!)
Mr. W. WY NN was its favour of enquiry to.
'wrists what the actual "spews to which the Cos.
firs was pet would be, and to allow that sum to the
Epos liberal Pelmet.
Mr. .BATILL'itST contaided, that the office wes
ems of high constitationsi importasoa, setitely dig.
tioct sad iodepoudent of filial feelings end affectioes ;
and. as a public Officer of high leepossibility, Ike
Caslasoeboeser • ould hold that office, ought to be paid.
Laid CARHANIPTON felt it his duty to op-
pose, as far as his individeel vote would go, this
audacious, unfeeling, toed eepriecipted attempt en
the Public Purse. In the coarse of the last Session
of Parliament Milkmen made an attempt to take a
grunt of moo*, from the Public. for the Royal Fa.
mily. In that attempt they were foiled. They mow
came with soother attempt ; hot let them take care ;
for (said the Noble Lord)" if they now fail, do.
rod epee it, est they gel'—(Lead
was goevisoed the Doke of York would not accept
this grant, even if it was carried. Ile was persuaded
his Royal Higbee** would net be outdone by a
Frenclume, who had lately refused a greet. Ile was
couvioced the Dike of. York would est be outdoes
by the Dec do Richelieu. The Doke of York, who
was in the receipt of 50,0001. already from the Pub•
lie, would not. be was convinced, receive an additional
10,0001. for sometimes width', his afflicted father.—
The offer was au malt to his Royal Higbee... His
acceptance of it would injure him with the Pablic,
*hough It could Dot with the Army. 'There was not
single soldier I. the Army who did sot love the 11.
lestrioes Duke ; so opener* sincerely than be did.
Yet though, as a soldier, hit had that respect for
his iteyal Highness, be +mild still dinkier(' his
ilsty as a ttoolcitatilltaa Member of Parliament.—
(Hear, hear!)
Mr. GIUFFITHS said, the nattering picture
drawn by the Noble Lord on a Infuser day, of the
mete of the reentry, woold have indeced him to
agree to the vote now proposed, had it est Wee that
he bad silica discovered, that eitheoghthe pietist* was
finished by the Noble Lord wish his moll glosties
colours, still it was ally a disb.44 iregh]—fell
of faults and errors, and oat of all propertioe. Fee
not withstseding the prosperous state of the cereatry,
as represeated by the Noble Lord, failures were com.
men in the maiseiattering districts; sad be had last
•rek received letters from Heinous, giving feel
Wales which had involved that lowa sod eeighbeer.
hoed is rein. The lion. Member stated, that he hod
also received information of various other fullers.;
a.ttl in this slate of tle country be could :tot igreetn
gamut.