The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-05-18 00:00:00

‘UPPLT.

On the motion of Sir IiEORGE WARRENDER,
the Ifouse r..soveil itself into a Uotamittee of Supply.
The Hon. Meml•er then said, that as the Estimates
for Naval Service would shortly come before the House
in a detailed form, he should now only üb-erve, that
in addition to other sums which lie had to propose, be
should move for 500,0001. on account for the service
of the rear Pd2o.
The following sums were then agreed to, being for
the support (4230100 men, including !5,0(19 marines,
fur thirteen ln..ar months, commencing from the lit of
January, 15214
For wage., at the rate of V. Its. N. each
man per mouth
Victuals at tis. rate of 11. Is. each man
per month - - - - 812.950 0 0
Wear and tear tlfp.Eo U U
For Orr:ay:lee It.i4X3v u o
- - - - -

3. Akio 0 0

And on arc, tat! of \nal Srrticeg for
the )ear IfisJ - -

Mr. BENNET, after a few intraductory wools which
which were not distinctly audible in the Callen-, 010
jected to the mode which had been adopted by blinia-
ters with regard to the Civil List. lleibegged the
House would consider the steps whirl Ministers had
taken upon this subject. A Committee had been ap-
pointed by thesCrown, and upt.n the Report of that
Committee, without offering any information what-
ever, they thought proper to route down to the I louse,
sad ask that the same Civil List should be given to
the Crown as in lb 16. He retuetubered the argaturtlis
which had then been urged by the Noble Lord, as well
as by Mr. Perceval, in Inll2. They said, 's Pray don't
interfere with us now, and the time will soon come
when you shall have all the information you desire."
Such inf ;emotion, however, they bad not given, nor
did they appear at all disposed to do so. Fur himself, he
Linda mot help thinking the Civil List as notch too large,
coasidering the distressed state of the country ; and it
was likely to excite the most enfavonrable feelings out
of do arc The Civil List of Itsl6 haul been constructed
in a period of eeneral distress an I while there was a
depreciated currency, but now the seise was somewhat
altered ; and, therefore, when they gave the Crown
credit for not asking more, they 'Eight to consider
that in reality it gut more. The sum of 1,600,0011/.
sterling was improved at least 2,5 per rent. since 1011,
and in the same proportion as tiais worked well for the
Crown, did it work ill fur the people. It would
have been mnch better that soa'ethins should be gavial
up out of the Civil List to relieve the distress whisk
prevailed, as had been dose in Queen Anne's time
Ilidweniner -of iltastge • It., **A there ;Want a re-
bellion in the country, there was hut one debt up• n
the Civil List—a debt which had be.aa incurred
by that rebellion ; whereas, in the course of the last
reign the debts of the t ivil List haul been paid nioe
times, and a suits of upwards of 4,11119,000/. appropria.
to that purpose. It was imperatively incumbent on
the House not only to inquire into the amount of the
sums voted in support of the Crown, but also into the
manner in which they were distributed. The experi-
ence of fifty years has; shown that the sante system had
been carried on by persons differing only iu the names
they bore, and we found the voice of Jacob in the hand
of Esau. It was now time that this spites.' should be
pot au end to, aail that those who were obliged to pay
money should he satisfied as to the purposes to which
it was to be appropriated. It had been said that it was
truly surprising b uw a people so r.ry sick at heart,
(441111 look so well, anal how. under such circumstances,
there was such an external display of pomp and show.
in his opinion, the Court ought net to assume such an
appearance of %Rudy splestiloar, while the mass of the
people were actually 1!a a state of beggary. At pre-
sent it was not his inteati tttt introduce any iiiitimil-
istent, or to Oppose the motion for aCu 'tree, hut he
should, on :to early day, pr spas, a Bill which should
extend the Act of Geo. I. to pensioners on the Civil
List, as well as to those who were already excluded
front Parliament by it, in conseetuatee of holding places
and appuitoutents.—:The flout. tieutlem.n here read
an account of the amount of the Pension List for Eng-
land, Ireland, and Scotland, up to the year tali,
which luau:led a snot of 257,1100/. and the total
amount, including the colonies, was 374,0601.1—1 n
the course of the last reign a sum of 2,11001. or 3,11001.
being left as a surplus, was set apkrt f r the service of
the t ivil Establishment in Scotland, and it had now
aecnmulated to 30,000/. while no a sum than
35,000/. had been distributed ttttt ,cesta•n ladies and
gentlemen in Scotland. 1111: it ha.i bean said on a
preceding night, that the House had no right to ex-
amine into the appropriati•ii: of t ue t ivil I.ist, unless
..th the cuneurren .e of the Croa u. Fr In this posi-
tion, h uwever, lie na-t extiresti li:s dissent: anal Mr.
Faux was known to be of a different opinion front the
Eon. Me :they who held that doctrine. Upon a qua.
Con of that nature, after Wiling up a Member Bina
Rigby to the scorn and animadversion of the House,
fur his servile opinions, contending that the House was
nut only at liberty to inquire into the distribution of
the an ney, but might even go so far as to resume the
grant, and appealed to Sir Fletcher Norton, the Speaker,
who agreed in the opinion. The Hon. Member con-
cluded with deprecating again the course which had
been adopted.
Ihe motion was then agreed to, ail the House re-
solved itself into a Committee.
CIVIL LIST 1,41.11 IHCL.t ti.

Sir JOHN NEWPORT observed upon the clause

for _ranting 297,000/. in support of the Civil List for
Iretand, that he had consulted the Act of 1793 with
regard to the lassitleation which had been made of the
pubic establish) ents in Ireland. He there found
eight classes, whereas there were now no less than
thirteen. Originally the L'uurts of Justice made only
one t i“sv, hit! now thry ftir :41 four: Cie Court of
lianccry, the bowl of hlnk;'s Bench, the Evart of