The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-06-14 00:00:00

No. I

STATE OF TIM ,NATION:

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Made it unequalled, par., haps, in the history of
the worid.—But tlfotsgh be could -nut sub.
scribe to his merits, it 'the espence of. his own
moral feelings, yet be was not disposed to go
so tip', on the other.ltaad, as to say Abet which
should promote unneskieurily the spirit of en.
mity and war. When wg came with the eyes of
Statesmew to look at this subject, we must take
into ourberious consideration the characters of those
who govern ; and we could not deny that triumph.
ins as our enemy did over prostrate Europe, and
resisted as he was by the efforts of this country
alone, his great remaining object must be to over.
come and destroy us. .To ti.is end, he must he
prompted by the disappointments he had already
experienced in inch a hope, and by his unlimited
and grasping ambition. This would, missuredly,
be the grand aim of all his foreign policy, whether
In war, or during peace ; for peace itself would be,
wkh him, only a period of preparation for _more
effectually accomplishing his object. (!lw:
• hear! hear !) It would be fully and infatuatiois
in this country to act on arty Othernonviotion,i 14
with any other prinipect. (f/earl) . Fur peace,
substantial peace,* no voice, shijulit be raised
higher than his own. lie knew it might be
said, that tinder the old Government of the
French Monarchs, similar elegies were entertain.
cd, and acted Upon ; and that what • be bad
said had a tendeney•to promote perpetual. war;
and he admitted that, hi the reign of Louis XI V.
this was eleatly the case.: but how Reilly circum.
stances were there in the changed relative condition
of t.te two countries, and of Europe, within these
(ale years, to be viewed and estimated ? How very
different was the energy and Vigour of Prance be.
.come? and what a prodigious inereasq;of ter.
ritory and power had she acquired ; Alt, except
with- us, site hod unhappily accouipliCired,
.of her
former schemes of dominion ! The iodependence
of Europe was 'gone! Tile balance of power. was
destroyed! The military greatness iif Pcossia was
aheilitlated : that of Russia • end. Aastrin,, were
ovifetime i Tire govcoment,ofFrayee, sitlasted the
best of all 'coutinental Countries • nil' the purposes
:of Offensive war, pdsseSsed the whole of .Grorqsirsoy
‘.stelttaly; and theictiources of all those rparitinie
Poweie; will), in former tithes, had even disputed
with otirselvt/ &feat pire 'of theses! Before peace
aetisiiii, ho 'hared toe, that. the Peninsula of Spain
•Potteigid vitiiihl ' be added to . 48 re«mgcs
arid means of iftielang this kingthes, ..\tbteq•Lste
!collected on elf tkeio great cbsplicsr,we l'lllifk_Wids
that 14 ouvselteddiWti:iecmitst look .for.capueill,—.
L ifi
ete:Voeiiriviecu:f;iri.ibitkit' warillt do as
all.rel .reliance
e cet.imutat r
al.oPi r flaretimo e
on the Leith of-t;fere Ilif , no dopoodance for
repose cies on 'lll6te, ;Vassalage to which
others have subedited: flow ineumbeal, there.
I fore, upon us, to•ltastainfour moans against, the
approach of the Most 'formidable danger that the
I country lierfiliir kaolin I This lid bias to the
policy ire (Nettle pursiie,,,aed which ho-deeply
I lamented had'tiOt been iiirstiegl.
,;It, was the policy
of that lilifMinitiy; 'o inbili tesiled, but who, in
one 'yead of office,Tdultd thigreatest charge against
them,' that thdy hid not been able to reclaim (he
country frtinr..att the difficulties in which they.
foetid it involied. The moment their ministry
ceased, •theie/gk of figoisr„ as it was celled, cow..
Silenced t; •'ana'rae • flatten were now tasting its
' !rifts:. The iNc/ble Lord (Liverpool) had said,
tint ve Ware not' to .confider one system as ecu. ,
nodoiti, afid die,Other es eitravagaiit ; but each of
them, 'with d'rifertnee *to the actual state of thel
country. Iteitgreed. With him ; and referring to
the state iartlifecuuntry and of Europet.aud,look.
big at one' ilititind tin Wile, exPensis e„ rlipma Raged
expeditiuttl4'dtll iOnt in t.,very thing—the.hiatories,j
of Which' iiii'Written In leers and,, bioods.,tra the
dishotionr 4ftitit.countryhe found his own npi.
nions follyentrfirined. lie Afield not,epler!iatp the
~pattietrlit9: df ' these expeditions; hut, Wooing
to' doesik*Vlll of A'NOble Slisquis..(WilloSley)
the'other !night, ' he' declared, that nu men,. hail ,
felt inoie 'Min he, whit the. Noble .Luist had.
deter:HA' • ho • man's 'hopes. were
.mpoc alive
ip "thei beginrilog of
,the spiniiii struggle; ,but
that Ndblo 'Lord, in his sjilandid Reclamation,
accused In think it entitillt.to ,shew that the
elitist, or Spain isle inst. ft was not,tmorigh,'that
fhielnialidn'Wis tinjosi," ficiOionsa,and cruel, amid
that it made eieri litigligt heart beta into holy
itelltigainstille`oppi4sfor.: they piest skew a pro.
'bribititi of snecess, hefere'they 'hazarded the re.
sorties:Bloo the lives of the coirlitry in such .a pan. 1
Leif: Tb2se tleeilit,,rithicli migkt,•sheil,pn generous
*recital; tied most glorious !ultra, mest,heyegta.
illiddrklli lath cases, by. t 4 us? of sound discretion.
. ..,- .
7=linitrand generosity were,proud national.
sliltiadone etitid lint bockivalrous and
ildsidleAti eidults'mtgiit,,ant posterity would
' lota thcfir &lasi taininiortalilock
.Nations, btu,
ralliefeilitakyd hi daring Clltu‘PrlSess Illuilt.s.. II
"ilieWidtiffir °Making them, effixtualljr i they must.
".eielgtf die millet 'and the probability of .ralbilal-N
Meet *access. 'Phis Wes tlgir. only mosle ;404
lipplyitvg the *PrlhelPlO'io sppsin he lamented our
conduct. Thangli no. ma's would more sincorely, ,
help the execution of inch attempts, yet, as he
had before couleoaixt, previous to his sundial' •an
' tinny, he should 'have felt it necessary to know that
' there was a government to support it, a oolitic
disposition to enceinage it, and the , meant! of its
' simply provided. In the want of that, the. con..
duct of our government was absolutely uojusti.
Gable. Such risks ought not to have been again
incurred, and another army sent, without con.
plate security : yet it Was sent, another risk was
' run, and another.seriei of losses Minya. These
were his grounds of objection to the coadtict of

Ministers, who indulged their.feelings at the'risk,
of our safety, in schemes so'expensiver so disas.,
trout in bloodshed, and prodective.of no *dean.:
tagea to the country, in contradiction to• the,
husbanding and preserving system. Had they.
made the power of the French government,
less than when they began ?—No ! that 'power
was greatly increased, and our own wail dimi-
nished !—Leaving the farther pursuit of the con-
duct of the war, his neat point was our policy,
towards the few Powers unconnected by alliance.
with France.. lie should not dwell on the.
history of our fatal attack 'upon Denmark) by,
which we forfeited our character of national jus-
tice, which, especially in the present times, was;
a great evil, and created in Denmark a more for:
midable enessy than she Would ever haste become
by coy uowilling.acquieicamee in the dietation.of
France. (fleas.) Sicily warn conaectiots of cots-
' siderablo stellar:3y. to speak upon; bet, from all
he knew, our :policy there was eot such us
affairs reoairetl. It was impossible tato into that
subject; but, without a change, of:systeml not.i
withstanding our assistance by' land and by sea,
he was apprehensive of its baling under French
dominion. Hut be must particularly call their
attention to the re-establishment of the NIA.:
Lions of commerce and amity with moot/on,
1 and the only neutral power remaining, he
il meant America. lie could not enter at large
into a subject that had occupied the debates
of nearly a session. lie and others then declared
the system of Ministers to be injurious ; they had
been since told that the trade of this country had
not suffered, as they predicted. That system
could be justified, only either at-it Would. force
France to repeal her decrees, or Wpretelit Aar.
rica from running away With our trade. It had
burn already argued, that in the fire 'view it
failed, uut having produced such a repeal. Were
they not yet unrepealed ? Nay, had not Minis-
ters been compelled by cirentneands to connivent
the violation of their own orders ?.As for Amerieri„.
they knew that trade, in• war, most be earriellOn,
by neutrals. But what had been dune ? That
trade bad been carried on under other lisp,
European flags, in a state of subserviency
to the French Governotentlfmoting 'at the'
political policy of &npacks Ns meeseetie,' Its,'
this. respect, seemed-the effect if i:lcepliaid.design:
The poly question beticen us end America was a'
commercial olio of profit and less : the'effect irat,'
that a nursery was forming fur kinds fur. B
parte's plojected !tenets. Pailvaps the Ildute • .
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not aware to what intent isit ttett "bad been tilt
ried... .From papers oft ttleaable it Oppeartil, that'
id 1807 thin. were In tbat trade. 41,000-tititivh'
licalMe% and otlercign Beropeat seamen 46;000.
In 1800, British scaneeir 19,000; and Foreign Lit:
ropean 43,000. We then adopted the plan of er-
tending licences, which in 1806 attiiiiinted to 1,400;.
and the last year to 15,000, by which we hid awe:-
tension of trade, which mole the number of° Bri.
tish seamen so employed 34,000; and of ForOtt:.l
Europeans 58,000 : so. that—we had diminiiheds'
the number on the while. 4St 'oft.' own sealnens
so employed, and encreased that Of the forcigii=l
era, who were occupied is eartiatiag the. sods'
of Europe and on our ;awry coasts.. What Could?,
be a strongerproof of oilefatat imPulley ? Consider'
its possible effects, upon oar naval superiallty!,
Our present increase was carried on by licences
granted by Government, a system totally ineon.,
sistunt with the spirit 'of a free commerce, and
irrecuncileablc to our free CoOstitutinti : for what,:

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT..

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DOUSE OF LORDS, Jura is.

Earl GREY rose, and commenced braying;
that the more he cunsidered the'veriess difficulties
tad dangers which threatened the couptry, the
more he was also convinced that the.etroneous

measures of the King's Ministees tended daily
to increase those difficulties and those dangers ;
and he felt a strung and serious appiehension,
that .if the system on which they proceeded were
not speedily altered, far greater and more alarm.
inviangers would soon ensue. These important
cousiderations induced him to take a review of the
whole situation of the country, not only as it
tregerded our various foreign interests and relations,
but our domestic tranquillity anti safety; and to
eekleavour to chew to their Lordships., the absolute
Peccssity of offering their advice to his Majesty;
we the present alarming exigency of the pehlic
affairs. It would be thought, doubtless, most
presumptuous in him to oppose his individual
opinion to the combined judgments of their Lord.
Clips; and if he sewn +thing in our situation to ex-
cite an apprehension of immediate evil—if he were
fully persuaded, that their Lordships thought, and
surioobly believed, the composition of the present ad.

ministration suitable to the nature of the present
times—thet it discovered nu signs of deficiency
in the wisdom and energy that were so iiniicri.

ously rectuired—if he had a deliberate conviction
of Aids, ho shoal, on that day, abstain from
importuningthe House. Bet he could not prevail
upon himself to believe, that such was the state
of their opinions or feelings. • It would ill become
him, and it would be inconsistent with the respect
he. owed to the House, were • he to suppose that
their Lordships' votes wcro not givenois a cuniric:
tiun that they were dischargistokir duty to thO
public in the must conscientious manner: He
could easily conceive, that seeing the perilous na.
tare of the times, and the state of hostilities,
many were fearful of embarrassing the ext‘eutiv6
Govetwount ; aadeven supported the passing of
snoasures, or refrained front the censuring of pagi
iransactions, :which were not, in their cool jostg.
ment i oubjs•clionable Else, hut,' could he ae:
coast for, that support given in thet 'llOesti to the:
measures of ad binary., when, out of that IlOuge;'
he.mauld not dud an individual who sippioved of
theicconduct and their fitness for the managemint:,
of the public affairs I Ceetaistly, he cants, not
oat of it fool any body of the 'people' of.such
opinion. Udder these impressions, lie had yen.
tured to call their Lordships' attention to the
Causes of this alarming Mato! the country, and
to the nature of. the policy -that-had been pursocd.
In .this task, he acted rather from the strength',
of his feelings, than from aoy Confidence in his
teen powers. As he approached to' the perform.
luxe of it, his diffidence increased, from. the
great importance of the 'object itself, and also
from the obsesses of his Noble Friend (Lord
Grenville), shies .continued indisposition he!
touch !actuated4 sod to whore Jedgnient and,
experience, abilities, eloquence, and authis:
city, ba had looked :to lupe, his defielencide
Thit.he felt a consolation in stating, that he wait
fortified in his own opiitios•hy knowing the setiti.',
meats of kit 'Noble Friend; sod that. the prinei.
Viet and. objecteilfsthe measure he should &opines
had received kiropprobation. In proceeding to
these consideitations, so aitally important tb the
country, thy, *Grit of . war difficulties' that 'struck'
hint, was our immense expenditure--Wt 'expendi:
lure *hie:, in, the, course of eighteen years, had
Progressively. accumulated front sixteen Millions to
no less than eighty.fire millions,-which had also
become so difficult, so disagreeable, and' so on.
plouset in the anode of its collection. After sc.,'
yenteen or eighteen years of war and heavy taxa...,
tion, without an interval, except the short feitrish
pause that Occurred after the Peace of Aroliors,
and, ;which could hardly merit the name 'of'
Peach„: them, :took! be no doubt Air the
Coaults7:4llaOslilis need of some repose but • we
core aPtloillhilloaituation in which, perhapc, ifre
liessing:OClmaise eouldoot he. gained ; in nhskb
it was extrewelpdoobifuli• whether se attempt'ter
negociateia,peoao would be successful ; In which'
it the walk Or:peace were accomplished, it was
barely possible) to obtain it, accompanied by suck
securities, ood such monomial prospects of safety
as could Alone coas4itutc the tree nature and
tarter of a peace. If he saw any good reastiui
for supposing aa indisposition in Ministers to oh:i
taio peace, iosbody would be mere forward than
he to:urge them to negociatiovii and to call their '
Lordships minds to the subject ; but he lamented,.
that be doubted .whether, at the present period,
tay lwopusition of that nature swould prodaceany
other kffect:thantu indnce-the teensy to aesibe it
tn.rtur fears and oar weakness. Net entertaining '
such suspicion of Ministers,' he yet thought that the' '
errors of. their conduct bad materially contributed'
to postpone the period of Peace. It was his wish,'
on this great subject, to avoid • all lingoage that
created irritation, And excite or continue personal.
animositiese whiehAsnly tended to embitter and.to
prolong the miseries of war. It was impossible
for hina, bred sod educated as he was, • in the
teal of social. order and morals esisting in•this MAP
country, to avoid altogether the terms that mitt'
he &PAW, in many cases, to the conduct of that's'
extraordinary man who ruled over Ae.raticii he.
might sly, ever Europe: yet there were such 'k.
rnseksble circumstances attending his astonish:
jag Career, which thaw otur it a prodigious '
*Picallour ; and in military glory, at least,

in a commercial country like OM, Onld be more
dangerous to our Constitution 'thin this power in
the bands of Government, to *withhold, or •tia":
promote, commercials speculation ? fie mi4ltt be
told that nothing improper of this sort hhd been
done ; but seeing its possible ruinous effects, it
deserved their full conaideration, in a commercial
and constitutional point of view.—llaving stated
Our impolitic and wasteful conduct in the manage-
ment utthe poiofed out our • errors
I intro% transactions with neutrals, and in our cum.
"inertial system,—when beeatne to review our do.
mcstic policy, be could •`•sce no -grotind for
praise., In this branch Of 'the subject, it was ea-
tarsi So look first at the means adopted for
providitiglor this doorman: expenditure,' in the!
coarse of the lad three improvident years, in
Which they 'hod exceeded what was the Trish-df the'
last administration, Willa extent of emienditnre, ,
by Bur W millions.. On this. point he shank, 1,
avoid details, u it had formed tive'strhjoet or much
observation, antVarassire in a ''rec'ent '
which itchapallorissia ash ply ' Kinistirs:
. had . :capeaditate,tbeiy hid curattd, "only by
4baspotary czpastiessis.: they had 'taken. the lends
availabla fat the VaitiNalall' of the war to discharge.
'the intend' of. Ode itsant: This' Was. an'eutirmons'
&panne from thoitystom adopted and' perserererf*
it .with so astrebdifficbloi,, if Itisitig 'taxes within
the year to defray the Motel expencus, and ofi
rtaltschig, as much 'as trost.ible, the tmontit of
lams. His Lordship then reviewed the financial
'policy up to the present time,• When the charge'
was 1,680,0001. mot the provision only I ,110,0()01.
and SliV,oool. remained chargeable on the Con.
soliaated Fund to defray (he expenres of the Last
2 year.: a principle, if it coold be so tailed,
never acted upon since the year when thel
Sinking Fund wasestablittted. The noble Earl then ;
made various other statentettts tending toilroito the
improvidence of the mmtittrcto! Ministers In Of
management of the public finaecei ; 'and ietreated
their Lordshiptto look seriously into, the emete.l
quences of their Wasteful $u begird
them to consider whit they 'Rooted have totpro.ide
fur in tLa year of a race establiApient. Could

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LAO look, ender present circumstances, at W
peace, without, a prospect of 7 or 8,000,0001. Of
Otdditional permanent taxes ? Let their Lordship,
vellect, led. glee Kinistirs tome check on their
PrOessediogi, • Mid make. them take a *systematita
view, in order to'fatmaotne pert aneht aystens foe
peace or war. ln their intiniense.expendititre, in
' their ruinous exitedicits, they Made no proviSion
far the future difllcukiets that threittitietE thew.
There was aisothet subject connected *ith this.
Ift ' recollected being One of the Committee *pl.
pointed by Horde of Commons on the occasion
of the st6p-page of the Bank ; or, as it was
termed, the restriction on the &auk from pay.
lag in cash. He certainly differed from most
.trY the Committee at that time, is he thought the
.laittik .ought•to go to almost any extreme, rather
;thee have recoils's° to so novel a measure
3o 'submitting some resolutions on that point, leo
lad argued at large on the danger that might
&Ilse from a depreelaiion of the jollier circulation.
Yo have spoken them of the restriction lasting
three years, Would !Save been thought absurd ;
bpt it haVactailly listed thirteen years ; and Ali.
cult:ten had not yet taken such a view of the case, ii
to be ready to propose' any arrangement on the
subject. 110 did riot hesitate to say that they ought
now to look to the best ermine of bringiug back the
flank to its propartyteet: hi ou rdo aiestic concerns,
there was a tutiject of petuliar interest and im.:
portance, he tbeatit the 'Attie:don of the sCitholie.s.
'the aseasureiliropoied with relpiet 'to that nu.
..meroutyartion of the PotiPle, were &ended on tha
abiblitte' and eiiileittneeoesi!y of sirenglitening the
clatinstlagalust tire meditated attack of the enemy;
• bk nit ing in Is defence the hands and the hearts
.0f ill WAVseittrad doserirthin, of :the'people of 04
'(7‘iteCitlaidniti. A. Noble Marquis, the other
nigh, f Wedlesrey) hid dwelt on the ;doors' that
*Mll threattit this country it tfteto,ts of Porto:
gal and Spain fell intictite atieniy'a setts; and the
facilities' theyirsiiiild". affda to ...,140. #ol4ns et
invation. "Attend to 'this *berdste.ll be toW
late ; and prat me for the elionttry that ;Cat se.
curity, that cleiii 'defence, that strotis, and,
impregnable-reiistinee,' which could alone be
I found 'in ihe u*ion of the interest* an dike.,
bonsasf all. - ltelroped, tiotWithStanding the re..
cent decibiu;', alit. this gieht, question woold,yet.
pi taken vii; Ite, was ter' train' thinking, Wild
idle buritifeeyeatitidt missiuta4entri lad oSisgv
lvtil.lhikelal in` :Yri4ifid, that `by one eel el Perlis.
Wet; atifialita tertfotc.ali'qseontent. lie hat no
bulbhope. 4 liat-wiiar was cailcd Catholic Emits-.
teibirrost*ai the leitahtliecesiery step • it was the
iliAt' in ea' out fl•citt,' 'aisit tcons,whiel: it might,
proieetlAtitti rendiated &ape, and with recruited
'strength: Tiiile, instead of [mimic, with respect
Id-that counttyt le 'a" taste of apprehension and
alarm, we should, lie :Isere, in.point of defence,.
Most sponge, and. Gild -there the most eikcluat
means of itiPpOteinEwar in . other gparters.—.
Widely 'different from a codrse of true Wisdodi
':and Polity as the•sonstoct of Mioisters was, re.
einctbi-the olidrati4tis* of w. ler and the external
dilfieltiiit. that #4-eX'perieticals they were Ott.
niaill *O; iu. islolitiot ISO time(y refines hp put JO,
Ittisitieeltieniiiiiijre;',.:!itil in lhil del:tete ihat, existek
tin Itie'Vraetice ot"tlfe 't
onsliiittioni in which big.
leskel 'he was •of 'oliiiiion, ibm iiiiiph • n.iot, ljo,
dune by the ibbiltion of various tocedless.ofliccs.
••-•:-.:11t '110'44 WrCailbrfoCliea of put espendi.
r tore, :'kisifilderable savings might be made)
where:greet - public ' ineouvetticu.ce • would not
result: lie was, hlwever, ready 'to „diseeo,
rage the belief, thatifruto
,t 1.019: par,tieu!se.
pources ghat redactions, could take, place,; but,
!le Was ioliyeiiiivi.iiceti eiilie iiiwritjr and oecesit
flty that Whatever r.(ticsrcbments in that way,.
could 'lle wide, uniiti o
to ,be made. Still, he
wished 'to' elate ids opinion n this subject fairly.,.
He, .for one, could not gaiter the people, by say,. ,
lag, that if any such fond were swept away and,
destroyed, the arsranni of the whole . would.be ai
*cry ceasiderible ' relirl. ' De* would go farther,
and admit 'the policy and necessity of some such
fend &mist big; at the dialiosiii of the Croats, For the.
rewarding of ineriatOolis public, services ; and.
1 .
which fund C:errld'OnliWipiriperly. exist at the
`frown's diontat, ' Whet he wis.daity Itt the lie; .
made A
lift- of heiritiiwk.thii.suNeet, hi pssiicu-
!kity aesirints 4 iiicking pit plainli. Could it
' 06isibly be gaud economy to exclUde all from this.
i • •
necessary business of
,the
itist-;:btx perdons 4;
large and independentpri:ii 0 til,ipitei„srha, frog.,
.the nature `and habits orMan*lnst,,corad out geliCti
isiffheiliiiiiioll til'aii4tiviiliketl.to Oilitticb sit nth.,
delis/ He cciiii tOreilOmertoss Of par gliatest us:
!gloat ,priiiitkiettra'it4. Oink, inflOieet that persens.,-,
iiritei; by their taleti!s. had: raised liturs..4es front'.
k' tit er'rinparefise'.4l;sterilyi' hid'. bellthAft,
Eglitirdifitifoit of thenpisitire affairs : nor , hid theili '
'llilillerie; in' tilw,t)eil itkci,,tiier lopked with dis,..,
iippinhlitl.•-• .ot: eurrifri(the icier& and successes ,
'ot sttek • ' is. •IT W,o Alit' victii4,l . the mansion
Iliad *4 . t ''''Of flurleigh,- etiT,. beheld with un.-.
"Pletrista,llAMllectines.„. that nrouraneet of national
:gratiltode in. thitt be.t of Mittiatets, in the must
giarrous of tchtn's ! it never could be useful
economy io deprive tilo Crown of the power of re:.
'Sterling any butpi4sons 0( large forione,,or idea',
,_
littokiptve,itur.,:.ri, .4i..0 woald seek to remouc- .;
railitheanclies by the misapkiication ,of the Nib!" ,
lie Murky. [llear, • fietir 'J These opinions .
were Ninde4l• on jto4t principles; the contrary .
opinions were fOrtnied, . he thought.,
.fleitheC
on reounmy, !suites:, cwt isien..uti compoß sense.
Wit 'white Lis I;ard.tilt *nal& preserve such .
a hiiii.l at the idspO4al of Ilie ernwnt' It slionld
be'inriiied la its'ainto"init; .iiiiitiriatited iii its ob.
ject; vtard::::: by whuksunte trosirionsi and every

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