The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-08-25 00:00:00

trate; I took down the words of Mr. Jones ; not all of
them, bat such as I conceived to be important, in order
to refresh my memory after. I did not think it my
duty to take down all that was said and done.—The next
witness who spoke at all to any of the military was John
Cooke. Mr. Cooke stopped and said, "this is like the
officer to whom I spoke."—lnquired the name of that
person, and I found his name was Hartley, a private in
the regime* The next witness was William Cleaver.
He looked vhy attentively along the line, and he stop-
ped and said, " I was not in a 'Ablation to swear, but I
believe this is be ;" he added, " I have only a faint re-
collection." I inquired the name of that person so
pointed out, and I was told be was Lieutenant Gore.—
The Adjstant generally answered me as to the names.
The next witness was William Sprott. He looked very
hard two or three times, and could not fix on any body.
I only mean to say that Spratt looked with a great deal
of attention. and looked again. I cannot charge my
memory with what he said.—Henry Montague was the
next that spoke to the identity of any one. He vened
a ,sd said. 11. fithisk that is the man that levelled his piece.
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A Jury man--. Did not Spratt make any remark ?
Mr. Stafford—l did not say be made no remark.--
He looked once or twice at one officer, and then looked
at another. I thought what be said not worthy of
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wrtting down. I learned that the name of the person
pointed out by Mr. Montague was Fitton, a private. 4
William Alexander was the next. He said, pointing
to an officer, " I saw him fire the pistol just before I
saw the man dead." That officer, as I was infor.ued,
was Lieut. Gore.

By a Juryman--Did Alexander speak doubtingly ?
Mr. Stafford---loo; lie said the person he pointed',
out was he who fired, and then lie walked way. 1
did not see the soldiers sneer. 1 never saw any men
behave better. Some of the witnesses, to prevent mis-
take, where they seemed to doubt between two per-
sons, were desired to put their bands on the lorse's
head, and I believe Alexander was one of those,
Francis Mitiowran was the other. Ile said " I have
just got a glimpse of hint, an.l I heliere, from his
stature and looks, I know him." I learned the.person
pointed out was Lieut. Cox. No other witness spoke
to the identity of any of them.
Mr. Henson—Sir Hobert Baker is a Magistrate
of the County of Middlesex, Chief Magistrate of Bow-
I street; Mark Cox and George Avis are constables,
sworn in under the Police Act fur four counties, of
which Middlesex is one.

Ir. Ilenson••-That is all I wish to ask.

Ilya Juryman.—l recollect a witness named Green,
who attended and went round; but I do not recollect
him to identify any one. Ido not recollect any parti-
cular observations .if the witness Green. I was pre-
sent when all the witnesses went round. I am quite
positive no witnesses could point out any man without
my knowing it. I think it was after four o'clock when
the wit/sews were allowed to. inspect the military ;
the delay siteioned, 1 understood, by trailing for
a letter, whiAlitinot come. The examination closed,
as near as I can recollect, about half-past seven o'clock.
1 do not recollect any officer being cloaked, but there
were several privates cloaked. No such thing took
place as two witnesses going round and saying it was
too dark. 1 recollect a witness named Humbert to be
there. Several witnesses were refused admittance be-
cause there was a blank for their names. I believe the
tickets issued by the Coroner are yet in existence, and
could he had.

A Juryman asked how Mr. !lumbers got in, u i
was only yesterday he was examined.
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Staford.-1 don't know that !lambert did not
inspect the regiment. I do not know that he gave
any reason for not inspecting the regiment. Some
witnesses complained of delay.

Mr. Station, read and signed his depositions, and
was requested by Mr. Henson not to depart for some
time.

31r. Stafford replied, that be would remain in the
house, but would be glad to have it intimated to him
when he might go.

conversation here arose among the Jnrors and
Coroner, tvhether they would sit to-morrow (Saturday)
or adjourn over, on their rising this evening, to Monday.
The Coroner observed that a prison in his district
had died of no less than nine wounds, and it being
therefore a case of great importance, he would wish
to attend to it to-morrow.

Several of the Jurors observed, that they could not
conveniently attend to-sparrow ; and, besides that.
what the Coroner stated, was as additional reason (sr
adjourning to Monday.
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Mr. Thomas Emans was then called in and sworn.
lam Adjutant of the Ist Life Guards. I was present
at the inspection of the regiment on Tuesday last. I
rieolkct the first witness (of the name of Jones) who
inspected the regiment. He pointed out one, whose
name is Richard Fletcher. lie is no Cornet. He is
Sub-Lieutenant IL Fletcher. Ido not know that be
pointed out any other.
By the Foreman —He spoke in rather a doubtful
manner. I did not particularly notice what he said.
The next witness, I think, was a man named Thomp-
son. I recollect him, because our terjeant and some
of the soldiers at the same time, sold me that be was a
deserter from, I believe, the fifteenth regiment.
A Juryman observed, " He is not our witness."
The next witness was John Parke, who pointed
out John Hartley, a private. Hartley was cloaked ;
I think he was.—Ws. Cleaver, another witness, point-
ed out somebody.
A Juryman suggested that the witness should
communicate to the Jury all that were pointed out.
Mr. Swans said that he slid sot wish to state
more than he was jostlied in stating, and would rather
answer questions.

J arra aa--Yos must avower all positions put to you
by the Jury.
Mr. Emans--MI reasonable questions. William
Cleaver pointed out Liestsaant Gore, hut he did not
seem positive ; he said, f believe that is him, and
walked away. I bare t►e same of W. Spratt, ►ut
that is all I know of bias. Ife looked at one person
bard, nod than at &smeller, bet he did not point
any body oat, and his name was out taken down.—
He looked at Seb•Lieuteuast Lock. The neat wit-

nest was Henry Montague. He pointed out John
Fittbon, a private. To the best of my recollectiOn
he was net cloaked. I recollect the witness Alexander
he pointed out Sub-Lieutenant Gore. 1 told him 16
go and touch the horse, because the men stood so
close together. I made several of them do so. He
declined going further round the line, because he
seemed satisfied. The next witness, Francis M‘Gowan,
pointed out Lieutenant S. F. Cox. There were five
detachments went out on the 14th, of twelve men
each ; one officer, and twelve men. I do not know
the names of the corporals who attended the officers.
but I know those who commanded the other parties.
Some irregular conversation here took place, after
which the witness stated, that there was a circumstance
which brought to his recollection the names of the
corporals at Cnmberland.gate; they were Heywood
and Forge. I knew that because one of them bad
his horse stuck in the neck, and the other came to
repolt it to me. Lieutenant Gore commanded the de-
tachment, as I have heard.

The Conn:sae—What you bare beard will not IL..
Witness-1 saw the detachments go out of the Bar-
racks on the 14th. I saw no officer with pistols, for I
never examine officers; I can't swear that they had nut
pistols. Forge was one of the Corporals at Cumberlani
Gate, as I beard from himself. It was his horse that was
wounded ; I went to the stable and saw the horse.
believe that Lieut. Feny turned towards Kensington, an I
Lieut. Dore, towards Cumberland-gate. Lieut. Fletcher
is not like Lieut. Dore, but there is a slight resemblance
between Mr. Case and Mr. Gore ; the resemblance is
very little. The privates always have pistols in their
holsters, when going out duty under the Civil Power.
Juror—Did any of the doubting witneses stop at
Lieutenant Gore I.—Wittiess. None but the two ; the
one person did oot appear to be certain, the buy
was morecertain.

Foreman—How many soldiers were out on the day
of the inspection ?—Witness. A:I who were out c
the day of the funeral, but one man who was wounded.
Who gives leave of absence ?—Witness. The Ad-
jutant.
Was any man absent on leave between the thy of the
funeral and that of inspection, on any account ? —Wit-
ness. I should believe not, on any account ?—The ;t-
-nes% then retired.

The next witness was Robert Rainer, who deposed
as follows :---My name is Robert Rainer, I live at le.
222, Oxford street lam a cook by profession ; I can
speak as to what I was an eye witness to. On the
I Ith of August, I was in Hyde-Park, about tive:ve
o'clock, and seeing there was a likelihood of a di tturb-
ance, I returned home ; I was not then at Cumberk-ttl
Gate, but at Hyde Park corner, shortly after Oe
funeral arrived at Cumberland Gate; at the time it
arrived I was on the top of the house, my own house ;
it might be one hundred and fifty yards or I*.t3
from Cumberland bite to where I live; I went on the
top of the house, because I was afraid to go out. The
first Ging that attracted my attention was a partTof
, gentlest: a in blaci cloaks, forming themselves near
, Cumberland Gate, they rode up Park-lane, before they
formed at Cumberland Gate. linmedately afterward:,
that is in two or three minutes, the funeral procession
I came through Cumberland Gate, with the intentiln
of passing down this road, I mean the Edgeware-
, road ; it was then I saw the first appearance of any
disturbance between the military and the public. It
appeared to me that the people who attended the
funeral wished to turn the horses' heads down Ox-
ford-street, instead of letting them come this way.—
It was then that I first perceived the soldiers strik-
ing the people with their swords. After some em-
ission between the soldiers and the public, the
hearse passed on in this direction, towards Tyburn
'l.nrnpike, in the Edgeware-road. After the
funeral passed the gate by one or two coaches, I can't
say which, some soldiers belonging to a detach:nent of
the Life Guards, who followed the hearse, rode on, and
in the hurry, the horse of one of the soldiers fell, in the
sodden turn of the gate, towards Tyburn Turnpike.
The soldier fell on his side ; they were passing rapidly
throtigh the gate, at the rate of six or seven miles an
hour. I did not see the soldier rise, but I saw the horse
get op and take Us station in the ranks, as if the sol-
dier had been on him, or as if he had not fallen. At
this time the soldiers were joining the corpse at the
gate, where they formed in a body round it. It was
then that the tiring commenced. The first shot fired
was in a south-west direction, across the Park, over to-
wards Knightsbridge baacks. It was Immediately
after that the firing -becalm general from Mt soldiers,
but I was at too great a distance, to observe who was
wounded, or who was not ; I could not see any stones
lying until after the firing commenced for some time;
several shots were fired before I saw any stones flying
in any direction ; I did not observe the funeral after it
passed the corner; I could not see whether it was of-
ficers or privates were firing; when the soldiers struck
the people, the people were not giving any offence
whatever, some of them were sitting quietly on the wall
by Cumberland-gate; I was placed in an elevated situ-
ation, and in no danger, so that I could see without any
thing to disturb me, I cannot tell how many stones
were thrown; I was not near enough to count them;
the soldier who fell was one of the Life Guards—one
of the Reds; it was the Reds that formed at Cumber-
land-gate.
Mr. Hessom.—l could not perceive whether Cumber,
land-gate was shot or no before the hearse came up. 1
could not perceive any stones thrown at the soldiers be-
fore that time • when the stones did continue throwhig
over the wall yards further, I saw them, and so I
think I must have seen them had they been thrown at
the gate, which was 50 yards nearer to me. I did not
see any shines thrown shortly previous to the hearse ar-
riving at Cumberland-gate; if there bad been any stone*
thrown I should have seen them. I was in an eievatios
in which there was nothing to impede my view; I could
not see whether the gates were shut ; I saw all that was
passing, unless in the Park. I said already I could see
nothing of what passed inside the Park, and therefore
could not say if any stones had been thrown at the sol-
diers there. It appeared to me that the people wished
to turn the hones of the hearse dome Oxford greet, in.
mediately *a the hearse cooing oat at the gate ; there
was a patty going before it with a hawser—a white flag,
I can't say what the inscriptiou was, apd that was what
red to See to be the cause of the disturbance in
the Instance, because the soidlarif iiMileitdittigy cut
(lowa this fag or basset, and thew the belt oiewere termed
the other way. The crowd Od not tesesiset the Yeses
to go down towards St, liiles's• they termed them, but
tbey did not go five yards; it ;hey bad compelled them
they reared have gone. It was some of the public who