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be heard of the reiteration of the troll Inquisltiott,
and of certain partizans at Madrid being treated as
traitors. If they were traitors, they were traitors
only to their own traitorous Government. 'Cite
case of Spain was that of a country abandoned by
its own Government ; and every :pallier(' had a right,
by the misconduct and criminality of his own Go-
vernment, to chose either way in such n disso-.
lotion of the State, either to the English or the French
Fats'. Who toek the wisest and best course of
run-
duct was another question ; but it was nut right to
treat such persons as traitors ; that was in the essence
of tyranny, and an abandonment of hu-manity. If
Lord Wellington looked to the probability of going
hack again to Portugal, why do any thing that alight
expose those friendly to us to•the dire effects of re-
taliation, which must tend to defeat the ends of that
moral conquest which had been spoken of? Of the
incomparable valour and gallantry of our own troops
be htd no doubt ; they were perfectly capable of
achieving the same great exploits which had been per-
formed by their forefathers ; but what number of
Spaniards had we found sharing with them in their
exertions and their glories? What became of all
the premises and all the bragging of what the
fixejaels themselves would doI Lord W,ollesley
had t,:ld us, quite the contrary; but he also told
oisters chat they ought to do, and so far, he (Sir F.
Pirdett) agreed with him, that wa ought to have war
or peace, but not this .ystem• of vacillation, ex-
panse, and loss. 'lite .Noble Lord who lind Ven in
Seaht, and must have considerable information on
suhject, with the to,ppusitioti of a natural leaning
to Lord Wellington, yet dui not ntfri:;u!e the failure'
or toe campaign to Ballasteros. lie, hi face, did not
count much upon molt aid—but tire Noble Lord op-"
pasite makes it a soft of charge. Such was the dif.
fcretice of opinion between the Noble Lords (Castle-
rcagli and Wellesley), the latter of whom seemed to
look on the Spanish efforts as butter before the sun ;
smnething that could not be relied on in a military
v;ew. No proof of the 'moral conquest could be
pi,rceived. Was it a fair way of looking at a • war
to say, that we had still something left in our hands ?
—We bud gone half our jnerney, then, We foiled
or beaten, returned to our place of startittg.-7-
The Ilouourable Baronet concluded by staring, that
Le had no intention of opposing the thanks, but
merely had taken the opportunity of expressing his 1
sentiments on some points.

dais to the familia of those °fleets, to express the
sense Government had of their' sereices.
The Address was then voted unanimously.
TRHATY WITT! RUSSIA.
Lord CASTLEREAGH brought tip a copy of the
treaty of peace and amity with Russia, bearing date
July the 18th, as also the treaty of peace with
Sweden.
COMnITTF.F. OF SUPPT.y.
On the Order of the Day being read for the House
to resolve itself into the Committee,
Mr. BRA ND wished to ask the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, whether there was any objection to lay
before the House, an account of the Droits of the
with the application .of them up to the
Admiralty,
latest date that the 'same could be made up? •
The CHANCELhOII. of the EXCIIP.QUER was
aware of no objection ;,and was ready to have an
account laid before the House, similarto the accounts
formerly presented.
Mr. CBI:EVE-tr. thought, that before the qaestion
of supply, it would be Of over to consider the into-
lerablo grievance of the present depreciation of the
paper currency. He thought it Infinitely more im-
portant, since the Right lion. Gentleman had in the
last Session induced Parliament to record their opi-
nion, that gold and Bank notes were of equal value ,
in the public estimation. They had even made a
law.to_force the public to consider them of the same
traltte. As now, whatever supply was to be voted
would be paid in Bank paper, and not in gold, he
wished to know if the Right Hon. Gentleman himself
now considered gold and Bank notes to be of equal
.value? He wished mere particularly to know,
whether, although the law made it so criminal in in-
dividuals to sell gold coin at mere thin the nominal
value in paper, Government did not themselves em-
teay agents to do that-thing which was considered so
criminad in others, awl buy up gold for the use of
,-the armies? For a guinea there would now be given
'27 or 128 s. in paper currency, which was a deprecia.
lion of from 30 to 40 per cent. As, then, the cup.
ply to be anted must begr\nted in piper, lie thought
it iteces-ns7 first to ascertain the value of that paper.
lie,•therefore, moved, as an amendment, " 4 that
the House should take into its early and serious con-
sideration the 'state of the paper currency."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had
hoped, that when the House had so lately pledged
itself, by its Address to the Prince Regent, to grant !
supplies for the maintenance of the war, no Gentle. '
mats would have been found to oppose the first gene.
ral question, " that a supply should be granted."—;
Would any Gentleman really wish to leave the
Prince and the country defenceless, and at the'
mercy of the enemy, until the bullion question should
be argued over again ? The lion. Gentleman up-
peered to have only now restated arguments which
had already beets often stated, and ofon answered ;
and all tbat he thought it necessary now to state on
that head was, that from every thing which had -
passed since the last discussion on the question, he
was only the more firmly convinced in Isis former
opinions. He was sure, that if the House haul been
induced by the eloquence of the Gentlemen opposite
to him to have adopted their ideas upon this su"ject,
a fatal blow would have been given to the tothisuirce
and credit of this country, and also a death-blow to
Ithe rising liberties and hope; of Europe.
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The t!tiestion was again nutting, when
Sir FREDERICK FLOOD (one of the Members
for Ireland) declared that the virtory of Salamanca
was one of the greatest ever achiesed. He would
not, howeser' go into a detail of the subject, as it.
ass one on which he was very little competent to
As to the• retreat, of which so much had
berg said, he thanked God for it. We ought to bless
outs Ares that we had not entrusted our army to a
rash or fool-hardy General, but to one who was as
wilting to retreat as to advance, who knew when to
go backwards and when to go forwards.. Au Irish-
man or au Euglishman was not ashamed to turn his
back when his honour required it, but a bully was
always afraid to turn his back. It would be a dis-
grace now to sue to that scourge of mankind for
pram. No; iu these Uuited Kingdoms i.rt blessings
be e‘tendeil to all, and we would drive that scourge
of mankind—to the devil. But we could not hope
to do so, till every body yirtook equally of the
blessings of the Constitution. These were his sen-
timents, and they were the sentiments of a whole
country, and of 11,003 of its inhabitants whom he
represented its that House. As an honest man, •he
was for measures not men; if his best friend was to
ask him to vote against his conscience he would not;
he would never be led by a party, but would ride his
win horse, and was not to be jeckied.
A Member, whose name we did not learn, regret-
ted that no pecuniary addition had been proposed in
reward, of Lord Wellington's services, which had by
no means been sufficiently recompensed, though lie
Was a Commander who had immortalised the British
IMMO, and contributed sp much to the re-est-ablisli-
:wilt of the independence and conwitutions of other
countries, as well as to the security of his own. If
no other Member did so, he should think it his duty
to bring the subject b. fore Pa EV Intent.
Lord CAiTLEREAGII said a few words in #
low tone of voice. We understood his Lordship to
lay, that-it was very likely he should submit a motiofi
Ott that subject to the noose at isp distant period.
Mr. PONSONSY thoughotord Wellington fully
eon!. d to the thaeks and reward of Parliament ;
hut the Noble Laid opposite had gone into subjects
encouneoted with lord Wellington's merits ; and he
therefore rose, not merely to expresi his concurrence
with the proposed 'vote, but to except himself from
bring supposed to agree in what that Noble Lord
himself admitietl to be open to patliantenta7 exerni.
Acitimi upon future Occasions...
The Motion of Thenks to Lord Welliniton was
thun put, and cairietitiem. Oa. "
Thanks to Use different Lleutenane-Getictals and
ether Officers were then voted, as also approbation
°I. the NO.ll-conlfitisslonctl Officers anal Privates. 'The
house also came to a 'Vote, highly acknowledging
the service of the Portogoese corps.

Mr. WHITBREAD could not conceive that the
amendment moved by his Hots. Friend (Nlr. Creevey)
was by any meatus a denial of the supplies. If the
House adopted that amendment, it might go intothe
Committee the next moment, and pass the general re•
solution which the. Chancellor of the Exchequer had
to propose. He wished that the Right lion. Gentle.
man had answered the two questions which his ifon.
Friend had pat to him : first, whether gold coin and
Bank paper were now, in his own estimation, of equal
value; and, secondly, whether Government did not !
employ agents to huy up gold with paper ?
Thu CHANCELLOR of the EXCIiEQUERsaid.,
that as to the last question, whether Government em-
ployed agents to buy up gold coin, he should answer-
by givittg it a direct negative. No later than yester-
day a sum of '27,000 guineas were offered to him at
au advanced.price, which he refused to take.

Mr. %VIIITBICEAD repeated the former question,
but received no answer.
After a few words from Lord MILTON, the
Aconadment was lost without n divisiqn.

On the question for the Speaker leaving the Chair,
. • Mr. MARTIN asked, whether it was the inten-
tion of Ministers to adopt any ecctiont!cal plan of
reform, and retrenchment of etpenditure, in cense.
quence of the Reports cf the different Committees,
which were•then on their table?—lf not, he should
take an early opportunity of calling the attention of
the Ifoose.to those Reports.

The C HAN C ELLOB. of the EXCHEQUER said,
that he had endeavoured to look into the subject with
all the attention iu his }pow; , but he was not pre-
pared to present any digested plan upon the sub-
ject.
Mr. WHITBREAD wondered at the clumsiness
of the dealer in guineas, who called upon the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer with so Many of them ; and
he really wished that the Right Hon. Geutleman
would be good enon4h to inform the House, whether,
in the estimation of that man, guineas and Bank-notes
were of equal talue, or is other words, how much the
man asked for his guineas ?
Lord CAiTLEREAGH said, that if Government
bought up gold, it was only fureigu coin, against the
buying of which there was no law.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.
said, that it was not to him that the man applied,
but a friend of his ca laugh] told him he could get
him the guineas. 'the sum was 27,000 guineas) and
235. a-piece what was asked.
Mi. WHITBREAD said, the man offered him a
very good bargain, indeed, of the guineas, for they
were worth 27 or 283. a-piece. Notwithstanding,
the friend came in, as is often the case among Jews,
yet he believed the Chancellor of the Exchequer was
kept somewhat in the Clark; and he could not. eon-
ceive, how such a large sum ati 27,000 guineas came
to be offered, if they had not previoasly been col.
lected for the purpose of being offered.
Thc. conversation then dropped, and the Resole.
tints was agreed to 4•4 that a supply be granted to his
Majesty." . .
ni4TILLERIE3.
The House having resolved itself into a Committee)
The CII A NeRfiLOR the.' EICHEOM
, .
having stated that it was notorious that the price of

MONUMENT TO OENCII.AL LS itatßca*NT.
Loki CASTLEREAGH' said, that it would not
he necessary for him to make many .obsetration*tre-
liminary to the motion he had now to submit to
.m. lie rose to more for a public monument to
•r distinguished Officer, Lietstenaitt.General Le
iceboat, who fell gloriously at the head of his
• le^:,tt in the battle of al manta. There was atfo-
f.-(.1 circumstance which would endear the memory
I.r W., rave man to the House, and the country.-
71u ood been for many years at the head of a very
valuable body of men who had profited greatly by
his instructiens, an' would doubtless yield many
ether excellent officers for the service of the country
in future times. Ile concluded, by rooting no Ad.
dress.to the Prince Regent, praying, that a Public
Monument might be erected in the Cathedral Church
of St. Paul to the memory of General Marchant.
Lord MILTON wished to know, whether pub.
lie monuments were also to be erected to the mem( ry
of Generals Bowes- and Gower, who also died in
the Peninsula, although not actual!), in the field of
battle ?
Lord CASTLF.R.F:AGII said, that it had not been
the custom. to grant publk nimatimeots, eecept• to
those who actually fell in the field of battle. Jo other
cases, the practice of Corernurent was, to sire mu-

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corn wail new ireatbr than what it was *nen Me'
Malt distillery was first stopped, and the great pre.
'lability of there being but a small stock in hand at
.16e approach of the nest harvest, thought that 'Volta
evident that the same reason fur economising what
supply there was, still prevailed. ite should, there-
fore, pro-dose to renew the laws about the prohibition
of malt in the distilleries, and for permitting the use
of sugar in the breweries, as alio for preventing the
manufacture of starch from wheat.

THE STATESMA

After some short conversation, leave was sleets, to
bring iu the Bills.
livcoLN cAsrt.r.
Mr. WHITBREAD asked, whether it was the in.
of Ministers to lay the repart of the Com-
missioners, with the evidence, before the House?
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the reports
would be presented, both with respect to Lincoln
and Lancaster I,:isons. If the eviden"e was wished
for, there would be no objection to gr.:train it upon
a motion.

TELLFEB OF THE EXCHEQUER.
Mr. BENNE r asked, whether. it was true, that
the Tellers of the Exchequer had Offered to resign
third of their profits during the war, and whether
other persons holding sinecures had made the same
offer ?
The CFTANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re-
plied, that the Marquises of Buckingham and Cam.
den, had made that liberal and patriotic offer, but
he was not aware that any other persons had done so.
The Rouse then went into a Committee on the
Gold Coin 13114.
The CHANCELLOR of the raCTIEQUER.
moved, " 4 that the Chairman be directed to move for
leave to renew this Act;" and as,it would naturally
expire on the 24th of February, he should wish to
bring it before the Rouse prior to the holidays. lie
would wish to knOw of the Gentlemen opposite,
what stage of the Bill they would wish to debate it
upon.

Mr. WI:ITBREAD conceived the measure so
hateful, that he would wish to oppose it in every
stage; but, however, he should refer to the opinion
of his friends as to the stage in which it should be
debated.

The Resolution passed the Cnmmittee, and some
other business of routine was disposed of.
.•Adjourued.

SPANISH OFFiCIA I, CORRESPONDENCE.

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LETTER Or THE sECRETATty or cT %Tr. TO THE A 740 tS.
II %Dolt OF His DRTTANUic Nitir;Ty. CONTAINING A
Copy MP THF. DECREE OF TILL coaTia, AFFOINTiIIo
Loan WELLLInTom To THil chIEE DOMMAND OP

TUE AMUR! or tliE YENINA;LA.
MOST EZCELLENT Slit, ..."1 have the honour to in-
fofm your Excellency, that the General and Extra.
ortlinary•Cortes, wisl:ing •to improve the glotioua
successes of the Allied Army, 1. ith a view to ;int *n
end to the calamities of war, which bear heavy upon
the nation ; considering that nothing can coatrilynte
more effectually to the attainment of so intere,ting
an ohject, than the placing of all the troops in the
Peninsula under the (Erection of one Commander, in
order that there may bo unity in the plans and ope-
rations of the Allied forces ; and setting the hi4liest
value on the distinguished talents and eminent services
of the Duke of Ciudad Rodrigo, Captain-General
of the National Armies, have decreed in a secret
sitting, that during the Ito.operation of the. Allied
forces,- he shall be invested Kith the command in
chief of them all; exercising it conformabls to the
general ordinances, with this difference only, that
%letterer is enacted in Art. 6, Title 1, Treatise 7, of
the same (a copy of which is annexed) shall he ex-
tended to all the provinces of the Peninsula ;—that
illustrious Commander corresponding with the Spa-
nish Government through the odice of the Secretary
at IS'ar.

The Regency of the kingdom has directed me to
request your Excellency will have the goodness to
transmit this important communication to the Duke
of Ciudad Rodrigo, with as little delay as passible ;
he being persuaded that this meritorious Commander
will see, in the above-mentioned determination of the
Codes, a mod solemn and authentic testimony of
the national gratitude for the eminent services which
he has rendered to Spain, as also of the great con-
fidonce to which he has entitled himself by the un-
common talents and military virtues for which he is
conspicuous : and by the unlimited zeal ‘t ith which,
he devotes them to the furtherance of ': e common
Cause. _ _

Ilis Highness is anxious to hear of the Dike of
Ciudad Rodrigo having accepted the abo‘e-mention.
ed situation ; that being officially informed of it, he
may direct the publication of the resolution of the
Cortes, by which his Lordship is invested ‘sith the
same.

I beg your Ezcellency will admit of the sincere
assurances if my high consideration and ropect.—
May God, Ike.
Cadiz, Sept. 25. up/Am DE LA PLZUELA.

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mand ;, suggesting, at the same time, such measures its
they might adopt to effecteally co-operate with me, I
have constantly felted them attentive to those sog.
gestions, and received from them whatever assistance
they could give; and accordingly I am convinced
they will continne to do so, although I do not imme.
diately assume the chief command. -I, therefore, be.
,lievc!, that no inconvenience can result from-my all..
plyietto his Royal High tiossibe Prince Regent, pre..
view; to entering upon the honourabletrust conferred
upon, me by Sig., Cortes.
This token of confidence on their pert, and that
of Government, and the tents in which it fres beets
communicated to me, are a most guttering proof of
those A,lthorlties beite, persqaded, that, in the Coat.
mend of the other twoltient7iers of dleAltiance, witi►
which I bad before been invested, I have done wijat•
ever lay in my power to promote the commis* cause
df the Allied Nations. I deem. it therefore needless
to make any protestations on this point ; end hope
that in the new and more exalted situation in which I
shall shortly be• placed, As Commander-in-Chief of
the ArMies of all the Allies ht the Peninsula,
shall not only be supported, bat succeed in impre,s.
ing the Spanish Governmeut, Cortes, and Natio,i,
with a erm belief, that all my measures will hae
for their into object the furtherance of the common
cause in which they are all so earnestly engaged.
I have the honour, Sc.
Villa Tnrn, Oct. 2, 1812. (Signed) WELLINGTON.
To hi+ lisrellr:tcy S'r H. Wellesich
Koi4to ut the Bush, &c,

OFFICIAL inetirrn. raw twit stnurrArvor STATE TO
THE BRITIAII. AMBASSADOR, IY ANSIVER TO THAT
IN WHICH SIR H. WELLESLEY xscLoszn 11131 THL
FOREGOING' LETTER OF THE DUKE OF cruLto
RODRIGO.

MOST EXCELLENT have the satisfaction of
informing your Excellency, that the Regency of the
kingdom has read with great pleasure, and the most
lively interest, the note which you have had the good•
fleas to send me, under date of the 9th inst. as also
the inclosed copy of the letter written to your Ex.
cellency, by the Marquis of- IVo!Heron, Duke of
Ciudad Rodrigo, from Villa Toro, on the 2d inst.,
stating, that he will accept the command, conferred
upon him by the Cortes and the Regency, of all the
Spank', forces in the Peninsula, as soon as he has
obtained the approbation of his Rcyal Highness the
Prince Regent, whom he would immediately address►
upcu the subject. •

At the same time that the Regency flatters itself,
, that the hince Regent of the I.TriltM Kingdom of
Great tiritai❑ :tad Ireland will give his full consent
to n measure dictated by the most generous
meats, and which will be undoubtedly attended with
the happiest mist:one:tens to the object, which the
Allied Powers propose to themselves in this war ; his
Ilig,liness is convinced that the trifling delay, arising
front the necessity of waiting for. tho approbation,
wilt not prove injurious to the military operations.
The Regency has helm!, with paiticular satisfac•
Lion, what the Duke of Ciudad Roth ign says of the
praise.% orthy conduct of the Spanish Generals,who,
by lending themselves to the suggestions of so great
R Commander, have acted in conformity to the wishes
of the Government and the .Nation ; and these Is no
doubt but when his Lordship should assume the chief
command, the saute Generals will do, from a sens•
of duty, what they have hitherto been induced to do
'by their zeal fee thstrause of their country... In the
mean time,.,they hare received positive directions to
continue to concur with the same zeal in the szecu•
tion of the military 'pions of his tordship.
And lastly, I am commanded by the Regency to
request, that your Excellency, upon imputing to the
Doke of Ciudad Rodrigo the contents of this woe,
willimve the gooduess to express to his Lordship th•
particular satisfaction with which his Highness has
seen in his Lordship's answer, fresh proofs of the in.
terest he takes in our glorious cause. I avail myself
of this oppnetunity to reni.w to your Excel►ency tho
assurance of my devotion arid higt►consid:'ratinn, rind
pray God may preserve your Excellency's life many
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}oars.
(Sipe) PETER LABRADOR.

--fhaei-A Paragraph 'has lately appeared in vont
Paper, and in the Bath and theltenluna Gazette,
ortifeh,, itrdeeettcy to the Duchess of Sae vs %viols
and the Princess of WALES, ought to hare been
spared. It is very true that Five L.tters from the
Duchess of BRUNSWICK to the Princess of WArcs,
ith some subsequent matter, were printed in Oct.
1 and suppressed at the earnest desire of the
KING., when 30,t0/1. was granted for that' purpose.
The illness of his Majesty affords another reason why
the matter should not now be revived. Tile Nnblr•
man, who soon afterwards was created a Peer for
the part he took in their suppression, is now tin more:
he cannot rise from the grave to gratify the pinlic
curiosity; nor on this subject would he, even if he
could. The publisher, whese name was HUGHES, lived
in Wlgmore-street, and has since been a bankrupt: he
also is dead. He must have been wonderfully unfor-
tunate to fie:, after receiving so large a sum front
this lucrative suppression.
Pifilt,o-SUPPRESSION.

ANSWER OF THE DUKE OF CIUDAD RODRIGO TO THE
AMBASSADOR OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY, WHO
MAD COMMUNICATED THE FOREGOING RESOLUTION
AND LETTER TO HIS LORDSHIP.
Mos.!' Excct.r.wer SIR,—I have had the honour
to receive your letter of the 25th of September, in •
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closing another of the same date, from Don Iguscio BRITISH NATAL F0ag0,,.:7-The -followiug is aa atm
de Is Pezuela, by which learn, that the Genetal stracted Statement from the,officistl. returns up te
and Extraordinary Cortes have been pleased to direct, Tuesday :—At Sea, 97 of theliiie, 11 fifties, 111 '
'hat the command of all the Spanish forces be con- i frigates, 70 slOops, 4 bombs,' It7-brigs, 34 cuttett
ferred on me: for which signal proof of conlitlenceri 46 schooairs; total 538. 'IA Poit, and fitting, 38 •
on the part of the Congres'and Government, 'I *re- of the litre, 8' fifties, 42 frigatei, 20 sloops„.6 bombs_
quest your Ittcellency will expreas my deep-felt gra- I 36 brigs, Y.c.utters,!l6 schooners ; total 170.. •G•uard?
titude.to the Secretary of State. , lihips,..3 of the
„nee, J. .fifty, 4„frigates,,
I most anxiously wish to. do whatever lies in my total 1,.
6c. 11 of the line. Ift.
power, to promote and obtain the laudable object of Commission, Ik9 theline,26 fifties, 157 frigate
the Spanish nation, in their just contest With France; ; 95 sloops, 7 boinbs, 203 biige;l4l cutters', 62
and t feel no reluctance to undertlke the new task and 1 schooners; total 741. -In ordinary, 73 of-thelltuti
responsibility insiparable from the exercise of the eom- 112 Utica. 69 frigints, 41 stoops; 3 bombs. 10 brig*, ,
mance of dm Spanish armies t 'bet I cannot announce !4,schooners;-t0t411211. . Building,. 23 of theljtof, .
my acceptance of the heroine conferred upon me by :4 OftiehiAbk, *loop!" 4 brigs ;., total 57.
the Cortes anti Government, without the pretious,..Gran)dpirget
ofd the lion,
.26 fit:.
permission of his Royal Highness the Prince Regent,..; 6483.2 1 es, 142 sl• 16 bombs, 217 brig*,
to whom will immediately apply tot this.purpope. f carters, add 60 sikiltkit fottV dm,* •
I am the litts'cOncerned at Oh &lay, as having • ate lfWebbedilit •dtlrifediterittlesh; 110 neasets-Vta
long lalla itt the habit of Cenidentially oommanimits.,of thealileel Josh/ English Gemmel,• sp—ais of. the
.ing with the' generals .atjthe bead of the Spaniel' Aloe bla :Abe., North See, 7 04;of the Aloe t
of
armlet on the genera object, I bad is view in rig. Spy 73.44 tlltqloe*. and
a s •
operations of the Auglo-Portogoool-oodor my ova hi DoorOo-38. .
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