The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-12-03 00:00:00

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et this crisis sheeld not be litaiint will•ellectealosnd
seek be trusted, the present Wits were. The turn.
Item Me, whether two sully of the inteaded Arts
ibeeld be hew read • locoed time? When they
elms Into a Committee, that wield be the fittest
'this fir assessing their prowisioas, end remedying
their (suits.
Lima REDF.SDALE was sodded that the reports
'of 11794 i were set discredited by the Jury who tiled
Om moo,
Lord HOLLAND sold, that finding two most im-
pietist Bills before their fArdships„ and knueing
that more terrible ones were yet cocaina on, and
bootleg oho ellesiesis to *hat pasted Ia 1794. he wee
iodoesol to say a very few words. As to the present
Bills, regarding Mom at part of a policy he de•
pleied, be geoid Sever give thee, he regretted to
say, an eageolified support ; yet, at the same time‘
be approved of the first Bill, arsine to prevent drill-
ing sad traiwisig, and also ports of the second Bill.—
' Their Lordiblps were isformed by the Nub!, and
Iwereed Lord on tde Woolsack, that drilling and
training wars equivalent to an overt act of high item-
ise, and, is short, otiosely sae. New, though he
thillsmed to be so lawyer, yet he could easily no
float seesethieg net eery far from trainers was implied
le sea sets; and he would allow that if no law ex-
isted to pet each tendert dime, it oeibt certainly
to be put dews.—(liertr, hear t)—What he com-
plained of, however, was, that the very lint Bill began
with as energetics of facts against the people of this
reentry, sot soppoHml by satisfactory proofs. If,
therefore, their Lordships were called en to pose
such Bills, they aught to reqe:re far better evidence
than what appeared from the papers on the table.—
Perlianseet was rolled ea to remove the °nee
and @diem which attached to the advisers of the
Crown, while the preamble of the measures to be
saactieettd was insellicieet in point of evidence. Tn.
whole principle was, as be eadlirsteed the Noble
Earl at the head of the Treasury, to get Parliament
to assist is dietaries the law. The pasishoseet of
transpertetioe went tee far for drilling, while those
who drilled wore only to be imprisoned for two years.
Sedition was alleged as the fertile source of these Ills,
het be eederstood that Otsego Lodges were fits.
blished la the disturbed parts, and II was not very
harsh to suppose that ()noisiest had something to do
with the disorders of those districts. With some
geolificatiens, he should net object to say " COP.
tent" to the geestioa on the first Bill, bet his objec-
tless were greater le the wend Bill. Even the
Noble Lord (Sideteeth) had confessed, that the se.
coed Bill was a departure from the true principles of
the Constitution, sod sorry he was t • assure the Noble
Lord, that he, altboogis the antogmeist of innovations,
bad outdo rester attacks and inroads es the Cos-
illation thee ell the Radicals pet together.—
He sever amid believe that the original Whigs of
Logland ascent to legislate one low for the rich and
another law for the poor ; end it was adding fresh
smelt to injury, to tell the people that them mea-
sures were suitable to the Bill of Rights. However,
If it was necessary avow to disarm the people, if de.
fensive weapons could not be entrusted to them—if a
nation of volunteers was now become a nation of r..
bell, perhaps the mousers was done with some ten-
derness for the Constitution, and most he a, ko.tar..
lodged to be en improvement of the Bill passed is the
year 1814. Still he could not help v;eiving the
whirl.* system as more likely to aid than sssss de
the mils we were aiming to core. Ile objected to tie
entire police ; het in oho absence of a Noble Friend,
caused by illness, who bad delivered his (Lord Hol-
land) own opinions on this subject in a manner clear,
satisfactory, and impressive, he should net detain
their Lordships at this time. Beitosing the shut.
policy of Ministers to ha founded in the grossest Cr.
for, though he slid not believe they intended, by the
abase of power, to ruin the Constitution. yet, lot
would say, no better means tots sil& that rod could
an easily have been adopted, as the rissembling of Par-
Bement to cover the odium of ouch IPUCfo2lllsineuts.
Dlicaltios, it *sista* to be feared, 16011111 occur in
it seeming the people. If the attempt should frit,
their situation would be infinitely OH's,. while the
laws most necessarily be injured by it. lie assented
to the second reading of the brat Bill, chiefly as as
improvesieste on the meager, of 181?

The LORD CHANCELLOR. row to
He denied having used the longtime attributed to hint
by she Noble Lord (Holland). Thuogh placed in
the elevated sitostion he bad the harmer of holing,
he still felt that he was • 'eject, and interested in
'reserving ell the privileges belonging to that chafer.
ter. In .Ending to the Bill of Rights, both its that
introduction and conclusion, berated, open the or•
cation alluded In, and now stated again, that be
rl4l sacrifice, nor intend to make any pert of whet
use ;retitled be that Bill. Feeling that, it wet his
duty to tell the Noble Lord, that there was ue foonda
lion for the charge.
The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM supported the
Bile. The Noble Lord on the Woolsack was ac-
cused of osisrproting the Bill of Rights, wit* • view
to sacrifice what the Conatiistion provided I 4 the
wedgy of the 'object. What he Pad was, lan, by
the Bill nf Right,, ever) Dian ea, allowed the eve of
arms suitable to his condition. Th. Noble Lord
(11•Pand) ranl.la n-d slat G merriment were tow
mooch in the habit of intesiotlng c•aupulsory and
severe measures. and throwing the mitern of th.en
open Varliousent, ate, has mg ets.scp:on,•.rimd the
dangers that mideml solo 0n.4.e,•1 n C .9.str,—
Wiohost atherting to ti“rnr c• from •horm 1..• dan-
tns nose, it was the duty of Parliament to put
diem down. and provide weans (Jr theorruony adoe
insanity, now Is, obviously and openly threatened.
N.' doubt the osessurva proposed were strong, arri
mast odd greatly to the eserstritte arthoriry of the
n. enter. 111 was one n• y veil misronlm4 sorb
priod, us the peseta, to give crr•t poppon.lrrrnre
I the power of the C'o'ts. Their I.lrJ4hino molt
either prorid• remedies fur the esisting evils, or /Wet'
I into late a compromise with thane from *P..O is