The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-04-19 00:00:00

. but there was certainly nu evideace before the
Rouse that the Executive had bees deficient iu the
discharge of its duty.
Captain AGAR. said, that he felt himself per.
ticularly called on in consequense of what had
• fallen from the Right Honourable Gentleman.
He was sure that the clearing up of this unfortu.
nate eircumstence would be still more gratifying
to the feetiogs of the military thou to the civil
power. He must beg leave to state that he was
on duty that night' and near the spot where the
fatal accident took place. It had taken place in
a passage near St. James's Church, and be as an
Offieer Mt it his duty to investigate it as minutely
es was possible. Reevious to any firing- by the
military, the populace had not only pelted the
soldiers, but fired at them, et a time that the sol-
diers were not allowed to fire their pistols. lie
could assert, that, nut only both the civil and mi-
litary powers were pelted at, but from ten to
twenty shots were actually fired at them before
they were returned. The Hon. Gentleman had
been wrongly inforniedi whet! he supposed that
.there was a rear-guard of only six wee. The
fart was, that there was. it detathment of from
• eighty to an hundred, and it was not only almost
impossible to find out who firtalthe shot, but he
was convinced, that whoever might be the man
who fired that fatal shot, that man Wang was
eotircly unconscious of it. The firing was by
she-direction of a Magistrates, who wittiesseffihe
toarttli Koam"filrl.'tfashaerlialitti4
Ossulston,
Mr. WHITBREAD rose to reply. ' •
• •
A ME3IBER (whoee flame we could not learn)
•opoke to Order. As the Honourable- Member
:bad departed from the swage of the 'House, in
maiming * motion without eotioef it appeared to
. him that he had Co right to claim the right of re,
tidy:
• The SPgAKER. observed, that it reply was al-
- 4itost always granted by the courtesy ofthq noose,
--to any Honourable Member who brought forward
in original motion.
Mr. WHITBREAD then proceeded.-. He cer-
tainly should not have'bronght forward the pre-
.sent motion, if hi had -not been provoked to
make some observation* by the speech of
.the
Right Honourable Secretary (Mr. Ryder),, and
if he had not been interrupted in those observe.
dons. To protect hinssetf from this interruption,
he had brought forward bk 'Motion. Ire must,
however, say, that abet"' waelloothing
upparlia-
mentary, or very sanusest In the course he had
- taken. He.remembered that .Mr. Pitt had made
a motion precisely in the same manner, at five
o'clock in the afternoon, whisk lasted till 12 in
the disenssien. Whatever might be the general
*sage of the House, with respect to giving notices,
be would always contend that any Member had a
right, if he thought the ease required it; to mike
a MlCKien without giving that notice. Giving every
possible credit to the statement of the Honourable
Officer (Captain Agar), he Would• still say, that
if it could be proved that a thdoiand or ten• thou.
sand soldiers had condoeted theinselvell:with the
most elemplary propriety, that would be no tee.
eon why one soldier who sheeld centmit wilful
murder should out be pet upon his trial. Let
-she will have pelted the sailers with hied or
brick.bats, if one of them cues up deliberately to
• 'bits oe theMotoanibliGentlethao (if they's:lsaac,
-40t1 to be passing that way), and shot theta, this
larßfal murder could not be closeted In cdnsidera.
if* of the good coodnet of the rest.- Ifei had
'felt a with to deliver his sentiments on this mibject,
-.end certainly brought forwards motion merelyita
(prevent his being interrupted' in the delivery, of
'bit sentiments. lie did not, however, feel sly
'iodisation to withdraw hit motion now that
had made it, and would therefbre leave it to the
judgment of the House.
Mr. ANGELO TAYLOR was an eye-witness
of some of the circumstances of that 'affair which
was now under the consideration of the noose.
He was coming down the street in his carriage,
*hen he was stopped by the gallant Officer, who
'told him that thomilitary had been fired epee, and
-Ghat probably they might be obliged to return
the 'ire.
Captain AGAR stated, that although the midi.
tary had been fired upon, they did not return the.
fire until they had received the special direction of
the Magistrate so to do. • '
The motion was then put and negatived.
PETITION OF CAPTAIN FOSICETT.
Mr. LYTTLETON stated, that be had a Peti-
tion to present to the Rouse (tom an officer,' who
'complained of hiving been mach aggrieved. The
House would hear the Petition road ; and it was
pot his wish to throw the lesetaispersioe egiinst
the illostriou* Personage who WM eoniplained of
in the first instance. The substatiee'ef the coin.
'plaint was, thitthe Petitioner, being in the regi-
ment oomusanded -hy the* Duke of Cumbereaea,•l
was prevented by hit Royal Highness front tt(ktog
his regular course of duty, eh *mild itivelecl.
him to the Continent; that his pentuothya, Vas else
stopt ; and that he had presented i Memorlikl to 1
the Commander in Chief,: Sle Dalid Duntiiiiip 'to
lay before the King ; but that the CoMat,Caln
Chief, instead of laying it:hef:its the'*King, Pro- I
seised him thathe should have ellejority„,
On the question for bringing the Paitiflen,,
General. CRAUFURD protested 'titt*mli,
against' the receiving any such Petition:. Titieti
grievances complained of in that Petition 'Mere got
- at all cognizable before that /Zoete. He ciatiateed '
that infinite inconvenience would result from 'the'
/louse receivir affie
complaining
rurally to
to the King:
instance, there
rented, and-9
listenao all
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believed it

lout. If
would *en to.
COME la oft frectue,.
theii iiott'itejtactfu
• Petttitie:--
Ms, WiIiTBREA.D spoke to Order, on the
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!king petitions from individual officers,
gof grievanCes. Their appeal lay ba-
the Commando. in Chief, sad frost,him
g: If it were' in the present
here world soon be' orty petition& pai-
d:the, Ilifese wadi his called dpon to
Itheladivyleal grikinenkof the unit
the knew 'Of the`:ptip.iietkitiOn," be
to be altorefbei pu ory,luid VIVO.
such Petiadltr weft incabiliked;,, hal
:ure to say, thai in fltture'te'y 'would
frequently from those officers'who had
ne/lectful of their' duty. The'pketintle