The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-01-24 00:00:00

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him to be 4.14* to justice on all ones.—
.In the mob( aceoarti to . jestice
and moderbibille td' lilt; from seceding
to the Amendment as It eovretood. The second
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liparagraph of it was inadmissible at the present
meat ; it we* foe inquiry, but he., did net sec
the necessity of coupling it with the Address toile.
trown in the manner propesed by the AGICIIII•
anent. Igo wished an early day might be fixed foe
eel:4 into that inquiry,
.and he wished the legality
to be fall and ripen/as; but he vat Pot for Pre-
judging the ceudect-of hii Majesty's Govern-',
meat, which weeld be. the cafe it the Amoniment
of his Noble 141004) wrap adopted without any
alteration...
Lord 111Virakkirt;spoke at.somi length in
Llisdicadoo of: Itik,Measttroa Vl4l*•:(449.esur
ad pirrsuedissPeCtligthe.two Espial**, , 0
. * Estimation to the Scheldt, and the Allan of
earryint it letil etecution, Imbed old paeticolar
rote
attention ; and Sietlifier, be believed,. had liken
emitted or neglected that could secure its COus.
piSte sliced's. When the plan and the menus fur
. eg It sheet were duly coeddered, he was con.
Eda
.t they would be found to hue been contrived
. ' 'provided ,with wisdom and etiolation ; and that
no blame was consequently imputable to the fee-
mers of the Expedition. Equally free fruat blame
would those appear to whom the tatioution ef .it
had, been epstrusted. If, therefore, sogiber she
reamers o( *filo • Expeilitios, nor the officers who
`inecitted ft' *ere bleasesble, hew bard would it
be witbeet flay lottdry. to Om the sentence Oa
both wiled) was priiiitienced.by.-slie Amend:sleet
moved by the Nobhs Baroir.:-., Se was :eissitident
4.heir Lordships in thole justice and ealidotir woold.
never element to adept ii. . .
• Lord GREY supported the Aniendment In .lk
speech of cousiderable lougth, in Which he • frit.
lowed and curetted the argemmits urged by Lord
Grenville. lie never was more astooiehod Ulan
bythe tone assented in the Speech, and the *cre-
dit it took for the advantages and glory our artny
had acquired in Spills. In what! consisted these
adveatagee and' that glory ? the British army
hod fought a battle and gained a. victory, *high
was much boasted of in ilia ye-Nutty, BO. what
wail the ionic ?
.1•44,, Itistariosa are,. Mat
compelled to setreek allitevni nearly All• 011.
,by that vegy. .army. misdeOlSoslt. Srtivm the Ort.
tish Comameder badillmeeleil. 4 heidag destroy.
ell* ludged 41 °kr,. 004101..Preri4 big-Salehlien, tor
bad he out bees stwittoto ef thOmoVis of advance
leg further, he weekleave usedAtieto 0111•111 tette.
tootle himself in dilloottios freas-..WlNbis he could
Inver bees besseapitidedi Timaeoesitybe woven
to retreat at the tithe b* striated, just saved titi
,raiy. Ilisd it coat/mud to advantri not a ma*
would have escaped ; add bore; however reluctant..
lr, he (cared lie must take suite of the blaine from
Ministers, aid throw It am the !humidors of she
Commaader; Lord Weifteston, he was ready to
confess, was a bold and enterprising ollicer.—On
this omissive his holders. degenerates into rash.
'CIOSS. 110 advances Lute the heart of the coun.
try, without having ascertained his means.of sub-
*deg his army, his means of transport, or
his means of information. Ile fights the bat..
tie of Talavora, which the Speech styles •
glorious and decided victory, bats victory attend.
fed with such consequences as must deprive it of
all merit ; a victory, remarkable only for a (reit.
less display of courage and waste of bloud ; a vic.
tory, which was ostentatiously extolled in tint
country, and for which a Pooral,e had been be.
stowed on the General who gaiued it, and to
whoin, no doubt, the Thanks of that house would
be snored. *lle shoeld,`.however, give this early
m.dice, that ho would oppose such a motion
whenever it would be made. • The Nubia Earl then
insisted on the'advantages that Might have been de.
rased to the comino.n cause, by sending the large
term which appeared to have been in the power of
agnisters to collect, either to the >Adrietie or to
the'North of Germany; if to the formerrit might
assist Austria either on the aide of Italy or, Vi.
tuna. It ;night have drawir away a part of Bona-
parte's army at a most critical moment, and even
endangered the safety .of . the whole of his. army.'
If employed. on the, Ems and Weser, IC sighs
there ids° hare produced the most• beneficial 4-
feats. 'lt Would be found to ao.Operatis
,arid( it,
an aoilisciplined rabble,' bet a nemeroui bau4
• . ' • •. • veterawe, tattailitriath the bat
'disposition, and fired. with 'the fiercest hatred
against rho oppression of the' French. But all
these opportunities were neglected, and the sea-
lect is justified by the must uusatisfacitiry reasons.
They could not pay an army in .the North of Ger.
malty. The expence of couseying troupe to the
Mediterranean, or the Adriatic, would have bane
enormous. Yet hare not Ministers incurred coot.
mous expellee in sending this eaveted erns .
to ' purchase discomfiture end disgrace in Wet.'
cheren, and to perish ingloriously in the
pestilential swamps of that island : braced
defending such unwarrantable measures, they
endeavour to censure the conduct of a forsook
adniiiiistration, thus resifting to thu pitiful shift
of endeavouring to divert the censure of the cove-
try (rum their oun conduct, and lasing it en that
of their epponeuts. But this'surt of diversion
will nut avail them. It will not divert from the
rage and iudignatlon of the relatives of those brave
teen whom (key have so wantonly consigned to a,
premature and ingloribus grave. It will not rigs
cue them from the contempt and execration of thel
country, whaseinterests they have betrayed, wheeel
resources they have shamefully squandered, 'hues.
cimracter they have wantonly exposed, wheal ke.
Your they have indelibly toraisheiti4olol7 OP
Amendment could be thought toe setllLthalio'

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visit it with
ily prevent thel:
, the future.
.s 110 Friend hid thli
istlh it. his most 0,4
Cried.. ,
lOL Soh in reply
He ebbsertud, 11144
iprecedeitted in Parleymy
condemn (LIN;
moiled at,
the juttol,
Gme.gar gut ; by which thi,
/fawn slights •if they alopted it, reduce lilac
selvea In this situation, that they might first
14eNn Administration, and, upon invesepti,nt
might turn oat that there was nu muse of blot'
Ile twit adverted to the operations our ar,„yit
Portugal and Spain, and insisted that they had hest
most beneficial for the interest of this counts
!rued whenever the details carne to be inquired itit":
pledged himself to prove that the conduct
our General and army had been most Wile ag
rbeneficial. lie instanced as a proof, alit (hell
einem of Estremadura, GaGicio, and Asturia.
had been completely cleared of the Fr ache
and although. it was true that they had by tur!,
prise defeated two Spanish armies, yet they 114
nut been able to gather any fruit froui their tic.
traria, for they bail not advanced a single step,
With respect-to the Expedition to Welcheren, his
Lordship admitted that the Ministers knew d
litre Anstriaa artnistiee before it sailed, but h
Wee' seedy tai contend that it fiercel t.. h e.est opt,
rated as a favourable diversion for Austria,
But it was not merely with that view that
it was undertaken. It had other objects which
were wholly British. It was knowii to be a fa,
vourite seasure of our enemy to form a natal
arsenal and duck at the mouth uf the Scheldt, audit
had been always admitted by. professional
_men,
that'. if an inritsion of this country
were eve
to be attempted, it., could never be effect:A but
from, the Scheldt. ' It was therefore an object ut
importance to defeat the views of our, etteinits,
in destroying that port which he had with so
"much industry, and. 41t such great expence' hoes
preparing. In, this object we at least had eq.
• citted't for, , *pinion of professional men,
',could yeritfirtrilt*li leis time and expellee to
form It new harbotse and arsenal than raters
the one which we had destroyed at• Flushing—
. was this the only object it had effected. It
*bad been serviceable to Austria, for it had di.
'veiled a large body of conscripts which were is.
tended to hate acted. against her. And this he
knew, it was the desire uf Austria that ue should
retrain Walcherett until elle- had made. terms uf
i):74 d etbrd e ; arealp
s harts
dtil :lc la thoseea threats or terms
f Bonaparte were
for
the terms which he afterwaris granted ntuit
minilt,-,that some dude rettit'cbtl him to the ncces.
city Of. Maxim; from his threatened sev,.rity. His ,
-f,ordshie odeelered, in his 'epitti9n, it was ecru
'aimed by our holding ‘V4lcher9n, and, in fait,
that was the:rempon wry we laildit after the ulte.
riofisbjects Of the -Expetliiiori Nee known to be
diateeteds,' and. et the request' cif Austria. His
Lordwhipeetielutted by tit ppiali4tibc.464tioi
Lord CA.ILTOORD sp?kai iw,, ariak al tae
AmesSimont, _s lterirlaich the-Note ditided.
• Ter the Amesiemen .
Rarest • - - - Si
For the Oriflnal Add: st -
.• ' Proxies - ' 65'
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Majority is favour of the Address
The Uolitie adjourned at half past three this
'peening,
• **fit att. commoss.
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JAW. 23. I
The, Sre.ttit came to the Heave at Sties ,
o'clock, and at lialf.paet three the Deputy Usher
of the Black Hod summoned the Hootsa..tu the
House of Peers to hear the Kinki Speech.
Thor StmAKER, on his' return, acquainted the
House, that in.persuance to the Act of the 2ttla
-of Georgp the Third, he hadisseed Nee Writs fee
the following places : •
' Boreaugh of Pembroke, in the room of Jab. Owen, Sup
Colony of Sutherland, in the roma et J. Randal .
rp.
Rass-ohire, la the room of Lieut.-Geo. Themes Frame
M' Kends. • - •
Shire ettileskimbeneh the fella el the Karol d
Titchfkld, AIM Dame of PertheaL
Comedy of Rise;, is the. room. of John BalloCks Rot
Tha customary Bills were then reads first tip •
pro forma. Writs were issued for. the Wheel*
places' s.— •
Thrroaghot Buckingham, in the room of the Right Ibla.
ees Grenville who has accepted the Chiflern. fluseiresis•
Comielford,iin doe room of Lord Henry Petty, removed to
the Upper House as Mantels of loundown.
. oumey.of Louth. in Ireland, la the roolusf Me. 114
iie-OevwelletreOlr doe room et the Itight Ilse.
'Richard Ryder.
Queen's County, in the room of the Right Hoe. William ,
Wellesley Pole.
Newport. in the mom of Lord Palmerston.
Romney, .in the room of the Right Roo. the Earl d'
Desert.
• Cockennoeib. la the room of the Right Hon. Wink's' Vie.
coast 'Lowther.
Scarborough, he the room of Charles MUM'S settee, liel•
in the room of Snowden Ranee, Eaq.
lures, he Ireland, I. the ream at Williams Intsgsraid, EI .
14.deriek. la the roes of Colonel Vereker. •
• Shire at Edinboreugh, is the ream of Rooked Demise, Be
biebsesbury, la the room at Sir George !lawyer, BM"'
The Speaker informed the Mestaben that the
Coseantens had attended the Home Peers, by de:
sire of the Lords Commissioners, where the UM
Chancellor had read a Speech to both flosses, and
to prevent mistake., •he had procured a copy. •
[He then read the Speed, for a copy of which See
the House of Lords.) •
Lord BERNARD then rose, and apologised to
the House for obtruding upon theirateentlee, hoe-
tog neves, spoken in public before ; but he trilled
is the indulgence of the Home, 'blithe made the
few observations which be bad t. offer.. (To
Noble Lord kite evinced • considerable difkolll
in proeteding,_ hut was eibeonragol by cries If
loser, heart foss all gainers if disc llonse.)---
lie spoke, however, in ao low is toss of voice, that
it was impossible to collect his senthaests. We es'
'*ltood him to express his conviction, that at
'A Would *ninon of his Majesty's abersliV 0

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L 10310 Util could mot but sseknoirteddes to masers such conduct, and 1
limos was much to regret, and perhaps much Isisbustat that Would effectuall
rePrioheady 'bath to the ExPediti,ee te.811014 t uticiliesi 'of, .IkOch abuses fur
.0. -4,Pecially :in ihat,,,lo,,Alhathetiii• • • Hi A • *locid bi his 1101
4assld ant, blowsier.- brbstidmself to Iblok obj eitt,, sod as Itch i&if
the A . * ... posed by his Noble g; • " . ,
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or atsbjectionalids, At *odd Om. rd iltossokPro eitpliiiied..
tao
is Nitkont Inquiry. Thato stasniturbf. itti- • rho Earl of LIVERPOOL
tition, and muck of despondency its the. 'public Grey and Gfettvflle: I
mind, and the adopting such it proceeding Would Amendment *as unprecedet
not tank to (moths the use, or to MAW. iarimthitory. It first wont to
mato the sue. Oa Was a friend to modern- incasosos, and afterwards rcqt
tion, \aid .ha irisiod his conduct had shown into ibM, It was coinpletel,