The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-05-18 00:00:00

THE sTATEsmAr.:

Lord Arnioap had no objertion to eller the
motion or the lion. Gentleman to procede his.
Mr. WYNN ihourtht that the !otos, of the Notion
euelll not be .aati.foetorily ditett•ted till the noose
ho.I tome to some determination on the Report of the
Wok Contently*.

Mr. TIERNEY said, that should he serevod in
his motion, be shneld not Impose the appoiatutent
of the Committee lilt •her Friday.
Mr. CALLAGHAN was of npinion that the
Right lion. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) should state to
the Item the Wore of the Racialisms be avast to
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Mr. PEEL said, that his Resolutions world be
founded on she Report of she Cellelino..
Lord FOLKESTONE sold, that the evideeeegeoe
through consisted of 200 folio pages, sod the House
oeght to be fully acquainted with the sehject. That
could hardly be the case, should the discussion be
brought on en Friday.
Mr. PEEL had nn wish to press the subject pre.
maturely oo the Mouse; and if it appesred in be the
wish of the House, would postpone his motion till
Monday.
After some observations no the part of Mr. Cols
Iselin, Mr. J. P. Grant, Mr. listrkesood Lord Cal-
tlerusgh, the motion was iced for Monday.

holds in the neighbnorlog hundreds, *and who were
also reiiitlent In the !Int...ugh.
Alderman ‘VAI fIIMAN sold, that the 'Oslo.' of
the noose was on the trial; and it world he seen
whether they would refine any attempt at Reform.
under 'menu' that all loth ochemes were visions ry.
Could that be called a Representafir. grates where
one county sends 40 Member'', and 12 other counties
only send es moor ? This was the moment for the
House to show that it was determined to set its (see
against all rorropt acts. He had known many in-
stances in which the corrupt 13nroogits of Cornwall
had been offered for tale to different parsons, with
the prices elhastl. H. thought the right course
would be to have the an re-committed, end than to
rose en amendment to it.

Mr. Alderman WOOD wig sorry the Noble boril
bed not earried his Bill in t►e event of giving the
Elective Frinchisa to all boutebolders in he 80.
rough of Barostaple. H• thought that Leeds and
Manchester, and the other great towns ought to be
represoolerf.

Lord COMPTON supported tho original Bill.
Mr. D. HARVEY said, he was • decided fiend
to Parliamentary Reform,. bet be was not wedded
to any particular plan. Ile was satisfied, fro■ all
he had beard or seen, that the People bad cot that
fell and ft.. representation they ought to haw., in
order to coontor.balaoce the inflostoca of the Crown,
or of the A►istocracy. He, .therefore, thooght they
ought to throw the right of election into the low
towns, uncorrupted hitherto, and to take it away
from places that were corrupt.
Mr. G. LAMB sold, this was • Bill for correction
of alums, sod not ono for Parliamentary Reform.—
Whoa the limo should coma to discuss that ;rest
question, ho treated ho would not be found backward
in nesintainiog thisse professions be bad made sloe-
' whore. He would therefore support oho motion of
Sir R. Wilson.

Lord CLI VE supported the Bill, end the House

divided;
Far the original Molina 110 1 Aflame is 121 Ililakrigg 911.
Mr. W. WYEN, on nor re-admission, was ono.
in`, that no freeman of Barnstaple should hare a vote
at as Election, unless be was. resident lo the Borough
Mr. BATHURST opposed it.
Mr W. WYNN did not wish to press the Amend.
went ; bat it could not be denied that the corroprion
principally belonged to the orsa.resideot freemen.

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Mr. DENMAN thought It highly gratifying that
this reform in Barnstaple weaned to have been so
oranimoesly supported by the Rosso; and he Moped
they would carry their efforts against bribery and car.
repsion still farther. lie therefore trusted the lion.
Gentleman would persist in his Amendment.

Mr. W. COURTENAY was estreasely salines
that this Bill should pass; end therefore he hoped it
week' Dot be sedangered by say farther attempt at
auteederet.

Mr. F. DOUGLAS pse notice. that west Session
he would move for braes to brine In a BM to regaling
the &peaces of Oet•vete►s for Boroughs.

Mr.*. WYNN withdrew big ewer7detent.

Mr. V. BLAKE saved. that the right of voting
s►ould be given to the Inhabitants of Barnstaple
generally, and not to the Freeholders of the neigh.
booting llondreds.
Lord CARHAMPTON—Does the Ron. Member
seam sale or female Freeholders 3—(d laugh.)
The amendment was then negatived.
Mr. V. BLAKE then mooted, that mono bet fell.
dent Burgesses ahoold have votes for Members for
Barnstaple.
Lord CLIVE t►oaght the House would mot inter.
fare so far with the right of Election.
Aldermen WOOD said, there was not, be believed,

ten residest Freeholder' in Barnstaple.
'the as esdment was then negatived, and the Dill
was ordered to be read a t►ird time to.morrow.
The second reading of the Publicans' Licences Bill
was postpeeed till Friday.
On the motion for the seated reeding of the Peer's
Rates Misapplication Bill,
Mr. CURWKN eonteeded, that if this Bill were
to pass, they would be i ing the degradation
and the demoralizatloo of the Poor to a moat alarm-
ing event. The distress of the Poor Was to be ettri.
batted to taxation, and the depreciation of money.—
This Bill would have the effect of pauperising the
whole community. The only good they could do
would be to bring the Poor back to the spirit they
formerly held; which could only be done by cos.
polling the payment to tiltm of a fair rate of wage..
At all mats (though no mao was more favourable
to allowing labour to Ind Its own level of prier), he
thought they ought to allow the Magistrates to is a
'minimum Site of labour. He concluded by snoring,
I that the Bill should be reed a second time this day
ilia month,.
M►. PHILLIPS objected to the minimum of wages,
bet supported the motion.
Mr. BRAND said, this was a Bill of immense im-
portant,. He considered that this Massaro would
give the Poor habits of greater industry and greaser
knowledge. Ile was confident that, in the met of
a candid investigation, the prejudices entertained
would disappear, aid the Bill would be found alike
humane and politic.
Mr. SHEPHERD thought the Bill leaded to en-
cooing, population of the worst kind.
Mr. RICARDO said, the Dill bad • tendency to
make all forethought on the part of t►e Poor unne-
cessary.
Mr. R. COCKBURN stated that as the Bill ap-
peared to him calculated to improve the cooditioo of
the Poor, it 'tumid hare his support.
Lord MILTON doubted if the Bill would diminish
the number of the Puor, a•d be should give it his de-
rided opposition.
Mr. COURT NAY bed beard the Noble Lord
with much pain, as bethought it had been universally
admitted, that ass alteration on the Poor LAWS was
indispensably eecese•ry. The Bill should have his
cordial support.
Mr. WINTE.RN said, as the Bill went to legalise
what was most eareptinoable in practice, he abeeld
ctotainla oppose it.
Mr. T. COI/MI:NAY observed, that by the pro-
I sent Bill the Poor Lows were. to • certain extent,
taken swap ; •ad he should give the Bill his warmest

sappart.
Mr. HUME had espretad t►at a memoir wergild
h.,. boon ttrowaht ferrw•rd int IN total abolitioo It
the Post Jena, in • ratios' 111801111/r.

M►. PRIMROSE, said, that the BM sent to le.
[slim the payment of the wages of labour out of the
Poor Rater, and he •!toald vote sgaiost it.
Mr. WYNN said, the Bill might receive Amend.
menu in the Committee, end held oat oo tocoaragr.
meat to imprudent morrisges.

Mr. 1.. iv EI.f.EiLEY-esp►es•ed Meese!! 'Out
the Bill. as it would place additiot.al power in the
bands of Orer.eers.

Alderman WOOD objected to the Cilale that went
to bring up children in a different mode of belief
from that of their parents.
The Linos* then dirided—
For She Second Itradiag 57 i Yor the Ameaemrat Et I 111a-
joritv 53
The Bill was was then ordered to be committed oa
Wedeesday.

The •th;r Older, lief. thee disposed of, sod the
House adjourned •t Two toClock.

SOUTH 4SI ERIC!.