The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-05-04 00:00:00

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HOUSE OF LOR" DII. FRIDAY, Mee S.
Yr. Bosom( sod ether, brosght up from the
Lemons the Excise licences' Bill, which was read a
time.
AGRICCLITRIL
The Earl of AIBEMARLE pressisted a petition from
the Occupiers o(21.300 acres of land in the Hundred of
North tireenlow. in the county of Norfolk, complainiog
of Agricultural distress.
Lord SUFFIELD bore testimony to the reality and
Ligisent of that distrme.—The petition was read snit laid
,en the table.
. The Reel of ALBEMARLE then presented a similar
Petition from the Oecopim of 35A10 acres of land in
the Hundred of King Cross. to the County of Norfolk.
--Read and laid on the table.
Lord SU FFI It LD presented a petition to the same effect
from the Hundred of North Uppiogham. in the county
of Norfolk. His Lordship stated, that the petition was
signed by all the land-owners of the Hoodred. but that
he bad known nothing of the meeting. until he had bees
requested to preside, aod had had no share is the preps*
shims sulonitted for consideration.
The Earl of DARNLEY made a few observations in
support of the petition, and contended that as taxation
an one of the chief ceases of diem., its redacting
would be themes 'Senegal used. of relief.—The petition
was then read and laid on the table.
Lord VIAITON. and others brooklet several private
Bills from the Commons which were read a first time.
SCIOTO, 1.1111111.
The Earl of ROSEBERRY rm. pursuant to his
motion. Their Lordships would recollect, that is the
"'arse of lest Session. be had introduced a Bill, the ef-
fect .f which was to regulate the right of voting at the
election of the sixteen Pesos for &seised. This Bill
bad gone through two stages. not only without being
objected ice:cope by ewe Noble Peer, but with the ge-
neral approbation of the hens". Subsequently. however.
several Noble Peers wished that the measure should be
suspended, in order that the loose of the Scottish mobi-
lity. epos its merits. should be more fully ascertained.
At his own seggestiese, a comeninicatloa had been made,
to every individual Peer, respecting his opinion on the
subject, and the result bad net only confirmed his con-
viction of the propriety of the measure, bet had. deter-
mined him to bring it once more before their Lordships.
Only two Peers had dissented. The one because, though
be thonght well of the measure, he did Dot conceive
that the Seoaish nobility were oleaginous In wanting
it ; and the other because he beiieved it would! be better
to proceed by resolutions, than at once by a Bill. This
was the course which be new intended to adopt. lie had
already, on introducing the original Bill, pointed out to
' Nair Lordships the defects of the existing system of glee-
dos. They were aware that there was no provision to
the votes which were offered, end that many iedi-
gFk
who bad no legal right. were thus ambled I.
' Now, this would be a hardskip to any body of
niiiaent more particularly so to the Peers of &Wised,
"lab having lost their seats in the Legislature. only ri*
tidied the right of ratios for the election of Represen-
tatives, and were not even allowed to sit in the Heine of
Gammons. He should think it unnecessary to occupy
the time of the House with any argument to justify some
alteration is the system. if he did not expect that the
length of time which it bad existed would be urged io
Its support. He should therefore produce one example
in which the present mode of election had been produc-
tive of great injustice. He alluded to the neutral Elec-
tion of 1;90. Owing to the admission of indiscriminate
votes, only thirteen Representative Peers fur Screamed
had for three whole years eat is sisialleitioli Vadhllefet.
The three others bad bees deprived of their seats all that
time, because six Peers had been elated by equal num-
bers, and an inquiry became necessary before it could be
decided who were the three who bad been duly returned.
This investigation took op three years, though he would
admit that another question had been mixed up with it,
whether Scottish Peers sitting in Parliament under an
English title retained the right of voting at the election
of Representative Peers. This tkoestioa. however, might
have been decided. and wee ultimately settled by that
house is the affirmative in the space of one day. Yet
owing to the original vice in the system of election,
three Peers were deprived of their seats for three years
out of six which they were to have sat in Parliament,—
After having taken the subject into serious considera-
tion, and in deference to the opinion of others, be should
submit two Resolutions to their Lordships. The Ent
should declare that in case of the decease of a Scottish
Representative Peer, IN person. except the sou, or grand-
son, or the lineal descendant or brother of a Peer, should
vote for the election of a Representative until his right el
voting should have been admitted by the House of Lords.
The second should merely provide that the first shouldn't
infringe the right of any person to challenge that of
others to vote. He should now move that the House re-
solve itself into a Committee of Privileges on these Re-
solutions on Thursday next, with the view, shonld they
meet with the approbation of the Committee, to bring is
a Rill to give them the force *flaw.
The motion was agreed to, and the House adjourned
till Monday next.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. CURTRIS presented a petition from the occupiers
of land in the eastern part of Sussex, complaining of
distress, and expressing a regret at the result et the la-
bours of the Agricultural Committee.—Ordered to be
printed.

t the complaints be .ball to fist-
way In which Scotch business, was
at house. He believed the Learned
Lord opposite, (die Lord Advocate) had get five Scotch
Bills standing for the same day. It sins impossible
they could all pass through their respective stages in the
course of one sitting. lie entreated him to afford the
Representatives of Scotland a fair oppottbnity nf dis-
cussing questions, intimately connected With the inter-
ests of their constituents.
LOltD ADVOCATE repelled the accusation
made against him by the Noble Lord opposite, in his
absence otitis general non-attcndance the other night.
He begged to ioform the Noble Lord that there was bet
one day during the whole of the present Session that he
had not been in the house, and if the Noble Lord hod
looked mad the house, instead of confining his view to
the Treasury Bench, he would have seen bins. He bad
assrays horn ready to answer questions on the presenting
Fief the 11111 a and other stages of them, but be denied the
right of the Noble Lord or any other person to charge
hint with neglectof duty, because he did not sit there
three boors a day in the early part of the evening to an-
swer questions, because the Noble Lord could not bare
the ordinary courtesy to inform him when lie was going
to present a petition.--(Hear.)—With regard to the dif-
Welts 0111•-the Noble Lord would have an opportunity
'of making his objections, and he should be prepared to
answer hint when they Case fairly before the house.
After a few words In explanation front Lord A. Fla-
Nihon. the Lord Advocate, and Mr. J. P. Grant, the pe-
dt read and ordered to be printed.
.111ANivroix presented another petition of
as BO nature from the nine incorporated trades of
Dundee. •
Gerd BINNING defended the Lord President Hope
from a charge which had been preferred against him,
and maintained that he bad only done that which it was
Isle bounden duty to do.
Mr. HUMS said if lie possessed the legal knowledge
of his Honourable and Learned Friend for Winchel-
sea, he would bring the whole of the Scotch Judges to
the bar of that house, and prove that no more than three
Mae of the 21 had been chosen from men of that expo-
dears which fitted them for the situations to which they
were appointed.
The Lord Ativotcate and Sir G. Clarke vindicated the
Bench of Scotland, sod after a few words from Mr. J.P.
Grant, Mr. 31aberly. Mr. 1). Drummond, and Mr. Bett-
ed, the petition wee ordered to be printed.

AGRICULTUR 41,
Mr. BROUGHAM thought it would be fcr the eon/m-
-oieties of the lionse that they should then determine
witetheror not the agricultural questios could be discuss-
ed that night. The Noble 31arquess was aware that the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had announced an inten-
tion of heisting op the Report of the Committee on the
new mode of paying the 5,0110,000/. chargeable for Na-
val and Military Pensions. They were not yet near that,
es
a umber of petitions were yet to be presented. and
when it came on it would probably occupy the house
some time. As they might not be able to get to it till
a late period of the night, he would suggest to the
Noble Marquess the expediency of putting it off till
Monday.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY was reluctant to
postpone the Agricultural Question, but be would ra-
ther that it go of rill Monday, than have it brought on
eta lateperiod erne night. If be prided to the ing-1
gestioo of the Learned tientlenme, he it would be I
understood that no other question ahett interfere with
it on Mooday.
Sr. BROUGHAM thought no Gentlemen who wished
well to the Agricultural intemet would wish the anbjeet
to be postponed beyond Monday. He took Ibis for
Irrailie4, mid Me thereinto took it for gwented that that
iju-stion would be regarded as peremptorily fixed for the
brst thing on Monday.
Tkir Marquess of LONDONDERRY begged farther
to remark, that on each series of resolutions, the whole
queatioa could be discussed, but be wished the question.
as to the warehonsing of Corn to be first disposed of.—
Ile desired :Dees that brought to a point one way or the
other, sad therefore he hoped that it would sot he made
the vehicles,* a discassion of all the resolution; but that
they should, in the first instance, confine themselves to
one practical measure, then to be submitted to the consi-
deration of the house.

Mr. (JOKE objected to Fart of the plan now suggest-
ed, which related to the grinding of warehoused cora.
After a few words from Lord V. Osborne and Mr. Ro-
binette, the Order of the Day for receiving the Report of
the Committee on Agricultural Distress, was postponed
till Monday.
The Martiness of LONDONDERRY appeared at the
bar with his Majesty's most gracious answer to the Ad-
dress voted on the preceding day, respecting the Post-
soasters-Oeneral. The answer was as follows:

" The King baring been attended with the Address
of the House of Commons of yesterday. acquaints the
House that be will five directions that the salary of one
of the Postmasters-Heneral shall forthwith be discon-
tinued.

" His Majesty only postpones the abolition of the of-
flee of one of tile Nstmasters-GerseraL until he shall
have had the opportunity orconsidering what permanent
arrangement may he advisable for the conduct of the
business of that department."
The Margness of LONDONDERRY presented an sr-
count of the expense of his Majesty's diplomatic service
abroad. with other papers.—Ordered to be printed.

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