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London, England, 1818-04-15 00:00:00

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oecting to reply to the Message: be was not
dole to form any opinion of his own, on the subject
.ef that Message, without consulting others. For
these moons it appeared to him that the Noble Earl
was bound to state more distinctly to the House, the
grounds on which be expected that their Lordship
were to adopt his advice, and depart from all former
precedents. He had no hesitation in declaring, that.
the course which the Noble Earl proposed appeared
to not t> disrespectful towards the Crown,
but also unfair to
_the Crowe, the House, and the
People. It-
Oa nalfair to the House, if their Lord-
*hips were disposed to carry the Message into effect,
mot to allow threats opportunity for going up im.
Sitediately with the Address. On the other hand, if
*bey thought there were any thing in the circum;
Mums of the country which required that they
. should not concur in the recommendation of the
Message, it was unfair both to the Crown and the
country not to say so. Wby was their Lordships'
character to suffer the imputation of disrespect to the
throne by an unnecessary delay in performing their
duty ? The practice which the Noble Esti had
adopted of consulting Private Committees must
have a most inauspicious appearance in the ey es
, of the country.---What was it but calling on
the Howie of Lords to defer what they aught
to do now until to-morrow, that Ministers
might have time to tamper with those who are to de.
dde on the question ?—[llecte, hear!]—He should
therefore move, by way Of amendment, such an Ad-
dress es be thought their Lordships' character requir-
ed them to adopt. He would propose, that they
- should express their seal and attachment to the
Mouse of Brunswick, and their wish to carry into
effect the objects of the Message, as far as that could
be done in the distressed state of the country. His
own opinion—and what his opinion was, he should
never shrink from stating on any question—was, that
if the marriages contemplated in the Message torte
to take place, suitable provision ought to be made
for the Princes; but the country bad already provid-
ed so well for the splendour and dignity of the
Crown, that the provision could be made without
imposing any new burden on the People, and in that
may be thought that splendour and dignity would he
best consulted. He concluded by moving, instead of
the words " that this order be discharged, words In
the following purport, to be substituted after the
mord that in the original motion :
" An humble Aida.. be presrided 10 Its Koval Highness she
Prince Itritcrt. to return Thalia to pi, Itosal liixhne.l 'at the
Information be had been pleated to romeanit ay respecting thr
Intended hiariage of his Royal Higliso.s the Duke f Clarence
with •be Princess of Sure-biriningrc, nod f the Duke a' Cam-
bridge o itb tar Prince's of Heme I 'press the mare mos.
of the HOW is that arningeno a., and In assure his
Rani Higlioros that their L otti.hip" a. old ctieesfully irtarier
in all treasures swee-sary in snake -soli suitable provision as the
twinsion requlred, and as the seal. attochwant. aid loyalty.
li;sich their Loidships feel towards his Majesty's Family and
.Goveirmrnt, and the lively sense they entertain of tar advan-
tages of rears mg the aorcesonin to the:Moor is 1.. F'an.sl
Brurowick dictate. bat due regard heir( had In the present
burdened slalt vt the People of the Ccotory."
The LORD CHANCELLOR proceeded to put
'the questiun, that the words proposed to be left oat
,stand part of the motion.
Lord HOLLAND observed, that he had moved
that the words of Isis motion he substituted after the
• word " that" of the original motiou ; and that the*
manner in which his Lordship proposed to put the
question was not proper. There were many prece
dents for Addressee being moved in the manner be
'bad adopted on this occasion.
The LORD CHANCELLOR handed the motion
•
'lO Lord Holland, and requested that he would pot
*it into a proper shape, as at present its form was not
consistent with the manner he wished to take in mow.
jug it.
Lord HOLLAND said, he had had no communi•
ration with any one as to the way in which the mo-
tion ought to be drawn up. He had written it on
the spur of the occasion, and would now make any
alteration which might be necessary in point of form.
The LORD CHANCELLOR could also say,
that he bad had no communication with any person
as to the manner in which the motion ought to be
put, and, therefore, had put it in the usual way in
which Amendments were submitted to their Lord-
ships.
The words Of thi motion being altered, the ques-
tion was put in the way Lord Holland intended it.
Lard SIDNIOUTH wished to recal so their Lord-
ships' recollection the circumstances under which the
present discussion commenced. The Noble blatquis
who spoke first had said, that if the consideration of
the Message was postponed, the discredit of that
proceeding would belong to the Noble Earl who had
braved the discharge of the order, and not to the
Hone. His Noble Friend readily admitted the truth
of this observation. He candidly acknowledged That
U any discredit belonged to the proceeding, it oogh t
to fall on the advisers of the Prince Regent, and on
himself in particular. It had been asserted that no
reasons were stated for the postponement ; hot he
understood his Noble Friend to have intimated, that
he would explain the grounds of. the postponement
when the Message should he taken into consideration
to-morrow. The Address to be moved was not an
ordinary congratulation or vote of Thanks, and his
Noble Friend justly expected that the Rouse would
look to him for the explanation of some plan or mea.
sure as the consequence of the Message, and also that
their Lordships would not be disposed to come to al
vote without due inforesatiori on the subject. The
Noble Baron, however,• who would be the first to
object to an Addressproposed without soy informs-
Owe, now wishes to vete one for which no ground
whatever bas been laid. Was it not proper that the
MelltUre ebl.ll was to be proposed to-morrow should I
then be explained ?' Considering the necessity there
would.be for going into details, it was pot candid to
call on his Noble Friend for explanations now. Al-
terations might be made in the plan. Different im-
pressions w Irch had been produced might be removed.
—Wear, hearq—ile world repeat, that different
impressions Wight be removed, and alterations sug.
gested, which .would require consideration. These
were reasons for delay which ought to weigh with his
Majesty's Ministers on such an occasion. His Noble
Friond would be prepared to-motrow to give their
Lorepi the requisite information. As fur the
Ageed/neat, proposed by the Noble Baron, it was
of a enure totally unprecedented, and was one which
he was confident their Lordships week% tint adopt.
Lord KING believed this was the first time that a
Mboister had given e decided negative to arc Address
AIL of Thinks and Congrrulltion purposed to the