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Learned Gentleman's presence, when he (Mr. B.) con-
sented to the condition that his Majesty should be
understood to retract nothing.—(Cheers.)--Yet the
Honourable Gentleman proposed now to bring back
the attention of Ministers to a question n hich he hail
no suggested at the proper opportunity. He would put
it to the House, what sort of an advocate must be he
who could carry propositions to the Queen. knowing
that her Majesty's name was deliberately omitted in the
Liturgy, and nut making the slightest effort for the as-
sertion of her privilege? Why did not the Hun. and
!.earned Gentleman suggest the restoration of her name
in the Liturgy, as the tint step to recognition ? Why did
he not even hint at it ? The Ilou. Gentleman had con-
fined all his animadversions to the treatment of her
Majesty abroad, and said not a word about the Liturgy.
Why did he not suggest it, alien the proposals were
made to her Majesty, at St. timers ? Why not suggest
it on his return, when he had an opportunity of so doing
in his place ? But he (Lord C.) would be pardoned for
considering this entirely as an after-thonglit,—and one,
too, that was derived from another camp ?—(Hear, hear!)
I —Why did he not in the various opportunities that were
subsequently giveu to him, urge the necessity of this most
important point ? If the Hon. Gentleman was as sensi-
ble at all times, as he now professed to be, of the great
I valve of the Insertion of her name, he owed it to her
Majesty to have claimed it as a preliminary to all nego-
ciation. So far from that being his course, the Hon.
Member, without ever noticing this matter of grave im-
port, carried three propositions to her Majesty, upon
which she was to make her determination. lie (Lord C.)
had no hesitation in declaring, that if the insertion of her
Majesty's name had been proposed to Ministers, the pro-
position would have been rejected without qualification.
Had the law been imperative with respect to the Li-
turgy—and had the right of her Majesty to have her
name appear in the public prayers been indisputable—
then, indeed, would Ministers have been relieved from a
t painful and embarrassing situation. But from the
moment that they came to the knowledge of the infor-
mation which had been laid before them, they felt them-
selves compelled to advise their Sovereign to abstain
from any act nut made imperative by law, that was cal-
culated to mislead the country into an erroneous opinion.
Upon the former occasion, when lie did explain his
views upon this question, lie took care to separate her
i
ajesty s inalienable rights from those other appen-
dages of her situation which it might be deemed advis-
able not to permit to her ; and this latter description of
privileges beiog allowed to her, would have been very
Wiperly deemed an act of encouragement on the part ot a
vernisient towards an individual whose claim to it was
contradicted by direct information. It was the wish of
Ministers that the question should not be prejudiced by
any act of theirs ; hut when no choice was left to them
hut to receive her Majesty with all the honours belonging
to her high situation,but towhich they were bound to think
her Majesty was not entitled—they had no other resource
than the coarse which they had reluctantly adopted.
lie trusted, !loiterer, that the iloese would aciasowledge
that Ministers showed no pertinacious adherence to the
course which they thought it advisable to commence—
(liar !)—or to introduce difficulties in the way of an effec-
tual arrangement. At the same time he wished not to he
understood as betraying a disposition to der say
this!. They having submitted the matter originally to Par-
liament, were desirous of yielding to the feelings of the
Weise. We owe it to the Queen to put the most I svourable
construction on her motives in having come to this country.
Rear, bear!)--But it could be pi) adsaatage whatever
to 4bas Ida Illajaely's biloisters should make any
retreetailea whatever of the principles they bate acted upon.
Indeed, were they to do so, they might be considered es the
1 basest del of public men that ever disgraced the esientry.
end utterly unworthy the confidence of the Sovereign or of
the people. It would have been an outrage upon the Royal
dignity, had they given any other counsel then that which
they had felt it their duty to offer. He was not disposed to
object to the motion of his Hon. Friend, because he thought
it went to apply to the merits of the case, so far as was
eotnpatible with its peculiar circumstances. Ile had reason
to complain that the lion. and Learned Member opposite
(Mr. Brougham) had acted upon what he should call a sys-
tem of tergiversation upon this question, in having first as-
signed certain points as the basis of accommodation, and
then brought others forward withoet any previous 'abu-
t loii whatever.—(Hear, hear ! from the Ministerial benches.)
—Frousseeh a system no satisfactory adjustment could pos-
sibly be aatielpated. His Majesty's Ministers had never re-
fused any thing which they were not still prepared to refuse.
I nor had he at !ay time given any rownselto the Crown which
he should be disposed to retract. The Noble Lord sat down
i amidst load and continued cheers.

Lord AtCYIU•LP HAIWILTON now rose, but was for
some time iraudible in the gallery, from the low tone
of coke in which he delivered hinaseW, as well as from
the noise which prevailed. As soon as we could col-
lect the sabstance of his words, we found him observ-
ihg, that he had waited there long before he submitted
any proposition on this distressing subject, that he
might first ascertain what was the new,. of his Hon.
Friend's (Mr. Wilberforce) motion, and to what ex-
tent it would go. He was not prejudiced by the opi-
abut of any individual with respect to this case, he
, acted entirely upon the authority of his own judgment
; nor had he been aware how it was to be treated in the
motion now before the House, till be had come down
that evening. It appeared, however, that the motion
of the Hon. Member was meant to obviate the neces-
sity of an alarming investigation. For himself, all
he desired was substantial justice ; and he did not see
that any good could result from the proposition now
before the House. What was the nature of that
ropositton ? He was the last man that should

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pass any reflection on the quarter from which it
came, as he knew it proceeded from an Honourable
lientlentan who sincerely lamented the unhappy
differences which existed between the illustrious
individuals in question. But to what extent, he
should again ask, did that proposition go ? It was,
that the party injured should he still further injured
—(l'heero—sed that the Ministers, by whom the
injury was done, should claim of her Majesty a para-
mount acquiescence. in order to entitle her to partial
i s tan
cheers.)—He bad intended before to offer
'reposin to the Home upon this question, but was
strained by the Howourable Gentleman on the Trea-
sury Bomb, wise teasel of delicacy, and urged the pro-
phet! of abstaining flies public disclosures. But to
him it certainly appeared that her Majesty would pin
infinitely n3ore from say blic expesWoa of facts, than
she could by this . There was one point is
the apes& of his Hosennittle sad Learned Friend (Mr.
) which deeerted particular attention. It
was is-that if the Meese shield give an opiate' that
the Qatar ought to be reetstedee the fall possession of
her rights, it would be a ditneepset, not to his Majesty,
bet to his Ministers,_ who had advised their bring with.
.—(Cheon.)—The Kier, ening tender their special
Eke, meld sot be responsible fa the affair. ey
i not, it was tree, advised' Ms Majesty to strike
I tilieQueets•s name eat of the Liturgy, bat they bud ad-
viola its being omitted, which amounted, In effect, to
17.1411:71t:billerLosorefradassorder, taratVrtlire term("lttoldal
nusi_ty,lser Majesty was renslar rayed foe o. as was
LIII:toy under the same `nation. Bat them
ass farms notation of Ms Wee in the Li=
a if It slboeld be Of itlits44o to Malt it wish
bile, to saw no teases why It would not be equally


so, as the case applied to the Queen.—(Cheers.)--The
Noble Lord, atter some other observations to the saute
effect, contended, that any investigation, however pe-
rilous, would he preferable to the proposition which had
been brought forward to prevent it. What was de-
manded by that proposition: It was, that her Majesty
should continually reside abroad, consent to have her
name being permanently excluded from the Liturgy.
sad renounce some of the most important rights whim
appertained to her as Queen. Whatever might be the
decision of the House to-night, he should say that th
rround of the proposition which be should submit was
immutable justice. The Noble Lord then moved an
amendment, the purport of which was, that the Hoes,•
kit sensible of the pain which the relinquishment of and
of her rights must occasion to her Majesty, and felt
convinced, that the insertion of her name in the Literal,
would be the most effectual means of preventing the or-
cessity of an investigation which, however it might tem -
Initiate, ontst be as distressing to her Majesty's feelm.s
as it would be derogatory to the dignity of the Cron 11
and the honour of the nation.—(theers.)
Mr. WILIIOr understood that the Illustrious Parties
in question had agreed that certain terms should be pro-
posed, to which they might possibly accede ; hut then-
was no concession whatever on the other side.—(blear:)
—And he would say, if any concession was to be made,,
it ought to be on the part of those who claimed the un-
qualified recognition of the Queen's rights. He con-
tended that the question of the Liturgy was never
thought one of primary importance in this distressing.
affair, nor had any allusion been made to it at St.Oumer's.
Mr. Liens, next rose to address the House. Ile
began by stating, that he could not, consistently with
what he owed himself and his Honourable Friend (Mr.
Brougham), who was not then in the House, abstain
from offering a few observations upon the speech deliver-
ed by the Noble Lord opposite. He should at all times
find it a difficult task to separate his duty, as a legal
adviser, from his duty as a Member of Parliansept.
for he had not yet been a proficient in those nice
distinctions of which he had heard so much; atuldie
was ready to confess that he knew not how hecould bring
himself, in this instance, to detach his respectful duty
from his illustrious client. But here the observance
of the distinction was not necessary, as there was
no inconsistency between the duties to be performued in
either case, for be who best discharged his duty to the
Queen, best acquitted himself as a Member of Portia-
ment.—(Cherrs.)—Yes! this fact would appear maw.
fest, when all the circumstances of her ease were coo
sidered ; when it was considered upon what uneipi .1
terms she had come before the House; how friendless,
forlorn, and unprotected was the situation it whiell she
was placed, as compared with that of the persons w..)
stood opposed to her!—(Loud cheers.)—When the cad.-
1 of her Majesty was viewed in this light, he doubted mat
that it would not only justify any rational extent to
which his zeal could go in favour of his illustrious
client, who had deigned to honour him with her conti-
dence, but also enlist in her cause the feelings of every
11 honest man, whose heart was not insensible to such tre
pressions, injuries, and insults, as she had been made to
endure.—(Repeated cheers.)—fie fearlessly and °peaty
denied the charge brought against himself's:al hi, Hon.
Friend, of having forgotten the basis of the proposed de-
sommmlation. That charge be should be always prepared
to repel with the same confidence in which it hail Wu .
urged. No tergiversatioa, us the Noble Lord would re-
esent, ever took piece on the part of her Majesty's ad-
s with regard to the question now under considera-
'on. Ile could renal circumstances to the mind of the
Noble Lord which must convince him of the truth of
this assertion, and make him retract the statements he
had made. That both parties had met on the basis thl.t
zile
her Majesty was to reside abroad, he was not disposed
to deny, yet he had said, in the first instance, when ti.sl
proposition was made, that he should not feel satistie:
if her Majesty was not pat into complete possession ot
her rights as Queen, and treated with that respect in
foreign States to which from her high rank she Was en-
titled. Another mode of adjustment was then proposed,
and perhaps her Majesty's advisers had gone too for
in meeting time views of those with whom they had to
treat ; but certainly they had never deviated in the least
from the fixed principle they had laid down when agree.
lag to her Majesty's residence abroad. It was true tint
the question of' the Liturgy had not then been men-
' tioned nor did he think it necessary, because he he-
lievedthat the express mention of her Majesty's name
was absolutely comprehended in her rights as Weer%
of England. This argument he should always main- •
tain, and should be toady to debate the question over
anti over again, upon the grounds that her Majesty's
name must necessarily be restored to the Liter"), by her
rights and privileges as Queen being recognirial.—
(Cheers.)—Mr. D. then referred to the instant's ~.f
those Royal personages whose names had been erased
from the Liturgy, and maintained that they were all
In application, and that the rule, as it respected the -1,
would have been more honoured in the breach than is
the observance. Exclusions of this description refieet•ol
but little credit on the Royal Family ; End if there r. as
any case in which there ought to be a spirit of conci-
liation and forbearance, it was when differences en:sted
shoat praying to the filliAT FATHER Of MENCT, to
whom all ought to make their appeal; and whose for-
giveness some who were now present might feet tise•a-
selves called upon to implore, for the injuries done .o
the illustrious individual whose emir he so hnmbly ad- .
wicated. (There was, upon these words being pro- t.
sams.ed, a solemn silence through the whole House.>
TIN Noble Lord, however, would have it that her Ma-"
jesty was of course prayed for in the prayer for the
Royal Family. Admitted; what Oleo: As Troll
might the Noble Lord have said, that her Majesty's
name was included in the prayer for all sorts
and conditions of teen.—(A laugh and loud cheering.)--
This was quite as good an sower as he could make
to the singular proposition of the Noble Lord.—
(Cheers.)--The iasertiag of her Majesty's name in the
Liturgy was a duty which devolved upow the Ministers.
Had they performed thdt duty ? As to the speech of the
Noble Lord, it did not contain a single proposition to
which the understanding could apply itself, lOr one sou-
trace which was not an answer to that which preceded t•..
—(Shouts of applause.}—lt was equally vague and in-
congruous. The Noble Lord had said, that the omis-
sion of her Majesty's name was a measure dicided upon
by the King himself in his abaft. Who was the King
in his closet ? Ille knew of no Kiqg in ,his closet exist-
ing in this country.—(Cheep.}—lflhey bad advised ii:*
Majesty to such ,- - • ' •ny mu say that
' - King L " hossettrabie t

Majesty to s RI act as would any WS lay chit
the King had dos. what was just or goootteabl* t or
rather would nee every saw *he had tie teens! vi
honour aad justice about hies, declare skillets,' had Cog-
; gassed a measure of tisegreeseat iajestleso* VII witiol
, redacted the foulest disgrace ea thaecaelre., 0,,,w:
cheers.}—Her Majesty ••At to bare „bcza . a'
QacesSEY din" wt"teteige4' - ' 1 r
asd an she ;:lrre er tarp. -,z hie
. nadi sadmdlh
Klee it was , het •
wit
the litigate:ay T.. crikm • dlte e the
pabhe tz ,to the gofers...a of the saliva; so
the fsellsgs psrilee,won id there hare ftecoai an-
' sletaitsgis ratinstleg the ea sad rratorom , to-
jestri siSa the asthma/ors al prayer? Asinrkily
Nert
1 'mink .'s IS isiotors. bower. kat jumped t 44
. , tow^ tell retracted all of erlook ~ t—
'• He itMeid se the Kes., atEC: who bad Ulu
1 *pp hat ft glittiot MP aftterfttfaad ; as
1 Ewe was of# TrloiNN'to orftlifttr_ I,eirt a. - 1110 61111 r•-
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/1 os .1 answerable cur what had oct erred wit.. regard to It.
Irci.,ll.li) to 1... r Majesty having arrised in C.E4.acd. Of
liiis. howl-% er. Le on% quite certain. that no accusation could
b. . .. tight aksiost Lis Hon. Frieissi for the part he had acted.
1 he j roposition of Ministers had not been made till the 15th
of April : hut ohs had it not been made boomer I Why had it
in.' been subinitielf: to her Majesty in Mardi, or early in
Ai vie ! 11 as it it I.r proper that her Majesty should have
remised no other notification of the rank to width she had
bee,: raised by ape e!enth of his late Illsiesty, than what the
tilt:sure of her name from the Liturgy communicate d I Could
this be viewed in any. other light thanes a manifest design to
is. grade her 1 However, during the whole of the time, the
• liththee of those alto were opposed to her was never
..I Let resaxed; and though no information of events in Eng-
' s It!" was given to the Queen. it was not for want of a facility
ir.f Morass to the eonetry where she then resided. as a as proved
t'st t 1... fact of the Milan Committee having been then sitting,
..; r in regular communication with the Cabinet at home.
Tt et tommittre matte its 'sport. and was it not. he omits{
•• ask. an eternal stigma on the laws and administration of the
• onctry. if. upon such report. her Majesty had been held
guilts. without nffording her the opportonid of vindicating
er lionsoir?—!Cheers.)--If there were nut good and su bden-
lir: putouts for the proceeding adopted. it was one of the
not st dagrnnt siolations of justice. and daring assaults on
frre.hr.s, that any Minister esur yet had the hardihood to
rect•iitinend to an arbitrary (iovernment.—(Lood oedema-
tions4R-Whit so as It that was dune in this ease! tier Ma-
't-'s had been prejudged—she had not been confronted with
:*.e witnesses against her. tier guilt was taken as certain.
to t! She was thus left without the power of openly posing
.1.4 innocence. Hut what tight was there to presume upon
Lisst, althubselity in thr smallest degree, no charge being
lust ~er I Wly was the sword to be held s
over the head of the Queen ! The reason was—
.sus-
.e .1:
~.
e tad come to England—this was her whole crime.—
°I-pealed cheers.)—Yes, the grand itemisation against her
Wes. that she had come to this country to meet her enemies
face to fare, and dere them to imprimis her. Well, indeed,
might it he '4id that the public mind was shocked; for if
es er there Asas a case to shock It, this eartaisly a as that case.
W!.at crime bait been adduced 1 None. He did not coin-
; 'ain of charges; his only complaint was, tint no charges
owe brought forward.--(Cheers.)—Let the charges Ito I.re-
re:re:t—he should meet them—be should repel thous—he'
s;to-id prose them to be false and groundless.—(Continued
r. eers.)—lle ont not favourable to charges of this :Mute.
i.,:iyin.'l iihistrious persons. coining before a Committee
of tint House ; and if they were brought forward in one
I. stecre. it watt von probable they might hr adduced in
ionre.—(Clieers, amt loud cries of Ilear, hear, hear!)—
Hut tnetrund creme of coming to England, which. at first. it
ae:seared was too heinous to be psrdoned, had, according to
t..e Noble Lord's ask sowlediteent to-night, entitled lter Sic-
jest to hi. g..0il feeliug. This, indeed, was serf singular ;
1.. t.strinige es mos avoid always OCIIIIT.—(.t laugh.)—if, as
!:'stress of it ales. she might with impunity hale done whet
et e ptelised. am! gone wherever she pleased—if. as Queen.
e. t might bust. done ttie same. had she out) remained away
fit -r England. it must nppenr manifest to the (louse, tiro
her whole crime consisted la hating ventured to set her foot
mem English ground. while was free to all the was Id except
to r-df.—t Long and loud applause.)—lt had been ailed why
II:e sds isers of her Majesty grimed so long takieg her reuse
' o' I:.e proposition regardiug the Liturgy. 'lite reason was,
Ittit.l they were sinttilling oadiscuso all the disagreeable pro-
potsal. in the first instance ; they rather u lilted until they could
nun! .e !Ms a part of her lega: rights to the Crown.---(llear *—
AN.. misertlag to what had passed at St. Omer'., and to
the steps which ter .3lnjesty hod -.loco been compelled to
IA e. Mr. D. deriared that he was satisfied she took the
ec..... oion of eoniing here with regret, imam persuaded, if
st:y &cent proposition had been made to her at Milan, she
u c.it:ii hate accepted tt.--(liear. hear:)—Howeier, when,
a ittiout any notiticitten of the change io her circumstances.
the proposal did come through lord Hutchinson--(" No,"
from Lord Castierstagh)—it was not to be wondered at that
It ass rejected, lie did nut undertake to say that Lord
lictiitinson was au agent of Cos ernntent. but lie still per-
Astor: in declariug that the propsal. were such as the Queen
was obliged to tried. She hid rejected them a ithoot vio-
lath.= to her character. and sha was now come to defy her
eneries to the proofs of the charges against her, Having 1,
endeavowred to point out the injustice to which her Majesty
was exposed, ler would conclude by leaving her Case with i
tont:drove in the hands of the Member{ of that House, con-
, viceed, that as Gentlemen, and men of honour, thee would
fee: the full force of such an appeal.—(The Hon. and Learned
Gent:eaten set down amidst the loudest cheering (runt all
parts of the Homr.)
Mr. !knees observed, that if the motion of his lion.
Frientl was to psis., as he thought it must do, the pro-
Lahiiity was, !ILA an end would be put to all public
dis.:usstons en a mattter which all parties must desire to
_ see otherwise adjusted. It was strange, he thought,
tile. tl.e point now so strongly eentended for by the
lion Jumble and Learned lientleman who spoke last,
shot Id never base been mentioned before. He did not
ehj rt to the concessions which were made to the Queen.
het,:lose he' hoped they would hare disposed her wind,
se4 the min sof her advisers, to enter into the negocia-
lion it ith brit of accotonttiation. Ile did not mean
lo impute old motives to any one, bat he mach doubted
the discretion of any advisers who wade an unimportant
point a sine via Nun.
(There was now a general call for Sir Francis Burdett
front all parts of the House; hut Mr. Williams having
ertglit the Speaker's eye first, had the preced-nay of the
11. u. Baronet.]
SI r.WILLI .sass mai ntai ned,that, in a legal and conceit's-
tiaeal point of view, the concession required could not
reflect any dishonour upon the Crown, and stated, that
it was his intention from the beginning to hare moved
for the restoration of her Majesty a name to the Liturgy,
in cur the proofs adduced against her had failed, or the
cast had been abanildned.
Sir PAANC said, litauerr said, he should endeavour to
look at the question with au unprejudiced mind, and
abstain from saying a word that could be construed
into the expression of want of respect to either party.
The lion. Mover of the Address hail, in his opinion,
given a very erroneous view of the subject. The House
were not in a dilemma. There was no limitability io
their consenting that the green bag shotad be opened,
eitasulting as they did the interests of the Koyal Fa-
mily and the public.—(Hear!)---As to the question
regarding the insertion of the Queen's name in the
Liturgy, whether that was a matter of right or not,
was of no importance. The Noble Lord (Castlereagh)
had at one time said, that no insult was intended by
the emission, and soon after admitted that there was,
by &daring that the measure was adopted its comae-
gnomes of the charges contained against her in the
green Us, which were upon the vilest authority. The
Noble Lord had advised the omission upon these grounds,
and then was surprised that her Majesty bad objected
to it. After having used all the circumlocution of
which he and his colleagues were masters to avoid
eulliag bee Majesty the Queen, Ministers wondered at
bee demaauting that point of henoer, which it would
be better for her to yield every thing than for a ono-
mot think of giving ups--{Hear, hear, beef !)--
%Orb, who held -a threat id one hand and a bribe in the
etboi-,-what was to be thought of Mtn ? Her Majesty 1
-Midair of the process which was intended to be j
test against her, but a threat was held out against
bier, which site naturally considered a threat nainat her
Ilik. It was, however, conditional.' She rejected the eon-
/Ides with mut . She refund the money which
Iliniators were coottgh to offer—(Hear, hear !)
beisTorgai
—sad cum forward to meet het charge.—This
11114 Weed a propfiVal great sagsanhoity as that
&adage the conduct of the Duke of
. Via, mod famished seat )land
presumption
of iumeneedis for she apparel in imgland osier an ins.
poilee sallehme le breekeily ghat The Neils lord

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!denied that a bribe had been offeted. This was*.
I like one of the characters in a play—Foigard,
!Revell—who was asked by a girl 11 et he r
tier is not a bribe, and said, " If you
fuit. it is a bribe, but if yon take it aft.
Is only a reinuneration.”—(A laugh !)—Ministera
on this principle, but her Majesty rejected
nioncrotion.—(llear, hear !)—Then down
with their nreen bag. Stow, if they had'
minds to pursue the threatened course—it
vised the King to pursue it, there could be
retracting it—there was no possibility of au
fur, if there was the possibility of an %hernial,
could be no justification.—(Hi ..r, hear :)—v
sidered the misfortunes of this hi fib-winded
lady, Oared as she was, in a situation whi
her no defence such as other wuu,ru were
mend, without cuntroul of atie kind, and
almost all connection with her family, he row
tate to declare. that if she had misconduct(
tie manner attributed to her, there did not
son with tier feelings of a man who would r
of pity—(llear, hear, bear!)—instead of
with an arm of vengeance, under the mask
--(('heers.).—The King he believed to be
conduct so little calculated to keep up the d.
Crown. For his Majesty there was a yariet:
Who could tell what the conduct of those
and miscreants might have been, who had col
fr sources as vile as themselves. They might
led his judgment and irritated his passions.
31ajeaty there was great excuse; hut I, hat
there our Ministers —(llear, liearD—There
to blind their judgment ; and it' they saw that I
were whispering; in the Royal ear, their minds
and they haul the additional obligation of
speak the truth to the Kier.—(Hear, hear
yielded to his passions, they were the worst
—(Cheers.)--It Ministers had advises( his
semi down an accusation in the greeu bag,
have considered it in all its warts. It n s
them whether she was abretill or not. They
to pursue one steady, intlevible course. So,
she might riot abroad as much as she pleased,
would supply her with the means of doing
only when she should come home that the
was to melte its appearance. The good
House agreed with him, that that bag thou
hear!)—The moniet-it Mi
the thing was negociable, there was au
intiiiiry.—(Loud cheers!}—Tie Honourable
the Address had said, (hut whether that
was in the secret of Ministers or nut, he could I
(A laugh !)—that the green-bag contained
nahlr disclosures of filth as trust stifle all i
was a steaw:e way of keeping up the di
Crown, to place all those things before tin
In fact, nothing could be a more hostile
supposing the contents to he true. But lie
green ba to be as false as it was filthy.—(.
cries of hear!)—!lt all events. whether the
were true or false, the House could nut go it
tion, for no public interests were concerned
were, Ministers had shown themselves milli
compromise tliem.—(('heers.)-lle heal a
they were false. This Pandora's bur, without
bottom, whether it routitiued truth or not, sir
be opened. Au limiest Councillor would
Majesty not to proceed, whatever might I
Impression. But all this was done for no
pose but that of driving the Queen out e
dom. Her reply was, that she was deteemined
be she champion of her own honour, and
If they pleased, put tkeir money in their
(Hear, hear,issar!)—They were ready to gr
jetty any thing, would she but consent to
thew the entharraasinent of her presence ;
come to this kingdom amidst the acclamations
people, anal out of it she never would go ti
houtings of her former admirers. It would
for her to lose twenty lives.—(Hear, hear !)
be believed, lt.rl not advised in this unfortunate
They came down most reluctantly, but they hart
ternative: an honest Minister would, if he felt
nance to any art which his Master wished to
say candidly, I cannot do it, anti not run so dangerous
a career as that in wit;- h others were engaged.
nisters who screwed their courage to arch
should take care that their heads did not
Queen had acted with great jiiilgutent ;
need of no advice, and she pursued the ,
Majesty was fit to he addressed by that Howse,
tautly was not fit to be the subject of the c
green bag • and it was extraordinary to hint
tiister could come forward with a green
hand and an Address in another.—(A laugh
—lint the worthy Mover had nut said where
lution was to g 0..--(.% laugh.)—lt was not
was to be dour with it. Whether or taut,
would he directed to go up with his Majesty's
to the Queen with it. At all events, the Address
in good language anal respectful, and so
against her Majesty's being bail.—(A laugh
—But suppoge the Queen refused the llonse--or
pose she refused to answer if she did rev
(Bear, bear !)—I n fact, her Majesty could
answer. The Government might take her
they pleased, but she could not part with
even though the plan of Ministers might
opportunity of sneaking off with their green
laugh.)-1 hat her Majesty was anxious to 0-
House of Commons might rewire of her
ciently manifested. By coming to this k
bad pot Isar foetuses, she had put ifor Singh,
her life into their bands. Site leaf ellsewlas
fur the 'loose of Commons, and her getters*
in the House of Commons. But on one point,
say, in the words of the Poet:—
" To the liege sovereign of my natlveJand
I owe a subject's hostage; yet even him
And his high arbitration I'd reject.
Within my bosom dwells another lord—
Ilusoua--aola judge and umpire of boat!"
lie protested against any inquiry is the -
King, the Royal Fatuity, the Queen and
The case could not be proceeded is if the.,
clear of all reproach. /Holsters were
high treason, or what was as bad in effect.
conduct like that of the wreath who estorted
threatsaf some atrocious cheers?—(Hear.
if 41 Queen had shrunk from the charge.
baiter trees evidosee d soil& lie hod
excellent cheese:ten who had gives owl
pastiesi sad why might net a female Isere .
se tremendousodoes a charge as that with which
bed hose so basely threatened? The Howe el
weld net look at these two parties smoireded is
Dearly mortal. or patiently *adore a poetess
must be owe et destruction I—(Neer, beer. hi
The Honourable Baronet, atter seise farther
rations upon the corded et .Ileiniaters.
the peel& a this cosutry were he
to see their hitters thrgrasiesi. end . meat
oat, that the veil should sea be reemoved• Gets
deformities which had been es epody alio&
He ridiceleil the expression et ardent atteehement
by Mr. Caastag in apsakieg of the Owe. sod
tin were not inks recoosilthie with the *tit et
Pram* with whisk she had hest teneeral He
*holed with declaring. that If her /frarsiuses eriossess
dyed is guilt. sods wos the allisereass- with whisk
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wassomethiag' them as 'white as snow. (The lion. Baronet sat ricitern • the very ample report of the speccii-s
ajgard, he be- after a most eloquent and powerful speech, amidst the find in our ether columns • but we cannot f ••
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gtis,,,uyt to,ii
II he:ittee: the admirable
er taking mo- loudest cheers.)
sitHaiiertincitn! ,re rant f.
bike ',loner, Mr. Castotx to.
0 replied to most of the speeches against
afterwards, ft I the Resolution, bust declined answering that of Sir F. li
Ministers acted I ilreverr, though not, he said, from a dread of its 0 .
ENSIAN and Sir FRANCIS BeIRDErT• The Les
eted their re-; force, nor from an exaggerated respect to the quarter rnei
rn they came I from which it came. Upon another occasion he should Gentleman lamented that, standing in his place in par
I made up their I avail himself of a proper opportunity of answering the liausent, he could not divest hiteself of those f •
oe reli--
if they had ad- i most boisterous accusers, sad the loaded cheers.-(llear,
which
became
bias
as
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ae no means of hear.) an .I.l.rocate. Yet, honeret is
at altevnativ, : I Mr. TirIINET suggested the propriety of adjourning might have felt as an Advocate, it is evident he to.
ernative there . the debate; and opposed, at considenlaid down with • ciesal
.
-When lie con-' original resolution. With respect to the speech of the
d and unhappy Hon. Baronets he observed, that it o•as one which the nests, and without professional art, and his
which afforded Right Honourable Uentletuan (Mr. Canning) could not
were plainly front the immediate
sentiment
of is
-e able to costs- answer; such a speech degraded the Administration, I . .
honest breast, and delivered with irrcsistible
I broken from I and the Right Honourable tientlensan should wait until , . ease;
could out Iseni- I its impresstoo had worn way, before he could hope and effect. Contrasted wills the appearance of h
tied herself in, that his arguments would have influence or success. I Learned Colleague, his efforts were remarkals!
of exist a per-1 Mr. Hamlin.% m rove to make some explanations. _ Y fit
....i. initrom entblrrasensent ; thon4•ll Mr. Banconsw, ;Alt.
not shed tears , When speaking of the name having been tomtit t 1
f pureuing her the Liturgy, 'he had observed on a former occasion, . lug evident indisposition, acquitted himself with mei
tof friend-sing, that it was " a trifle, light as air ;" this, he said, had ' and successfully viudi •• t .11' If from 1 ability, La ( I 11111141: ei„...
re incapable f; , 1, -
digaity of lee I. *II In sPIPI •
elsensled lie eonstaerea.the question a. of the reflections to which he hadrecently 1 '
aye n.
Minister% re- '
ietv „f ~,xceia.. I trifle, light as air, when his Majesty's ' - - ,
oar readers posed, Ou the result of the motion we are "t•
se piclothehles fused to give her the name of Queen. It had been • ,res must , as
De aware, among the numb.? 0
collected their said also, tit it the advice which hall prompted her to
I,illist hayd ago- a hasty return was far from being judicious. But he ! those who rejoice. We forbear, however, at presto
,it'll' iertie kis ; (Mr. Brougham) verily believed that her only adviser ' from making our remarks, awl wait with .h " wag antler
' 'Pa.'" was lin that step haul beets her wen great spirit. It reflect- to learn the receptionof'
re was nothing
rd the important Address, ziaitai
at base persous lasting honour upon her,
though it would not have •
is presented to her .11.1stsyy to-day.
nds were eons, : reflected the save honour upon any other adviser. It
of an oath- to ; proved her consciousness of innocence, and her fear- Paris Papers have arrived this morning to the list
ear')-11 they kssneee to no et her accusers. He then said a few French Funds Lave risen one per cent. They an
nit of traitors, f words on the proposal front Lord Liverpool to the I now done at 76 f. 71) c.
416 Ilaje3 t 1 to I Queers, which fool remained with herself fur several
g, they *honk' )1
moons u ithout twine' produced. lie said that he! Dispatches have been received from Colonel Sop-
t as nothisig to
ev were b„,4 ;laid not received it as a communication to be forwarded i ford, slated Ele Valk, near Santa Martha, April .1:-
No, they mid, j ynons pe;ototo ; lost as one on which it would be ne- 1" Various actions have taken place from the 13th if
aced, and nres• Lcesiary to have a personal interview. Ile concluded !i March to the 2d of April, all of which were •ecetth
tg so. It tom ikr stating, 'that the Queen could not safely give up conterted on the part of the Royalists: also that P.
the green bag f these potbts on which the nexociation had failed. Ide la Hoak had been attempted to he retaken by Or
I sense of the Mr. CH.II . • •made a statement in vintli-1, Spaniards, bat they were rep n 1 a • h
lonia
never he 1 C. LT4 lilNsi.N nse with ,real lest
cation of the conduct of his Noble Relative (Lord The Patriots continue to advance, and to gain folk
Slinisters said '
„ cud to all , Hutchinson). I reinforcements, being at present amply supplied with
able 310 see of • Sir T. Art, %so evoke in support of the Resolution, • arms; having received from rations quarters apart,
that Men tiom : awl Mt. Wther it rime': in reply•
4-- 1 of 511,0011 stand of arms."
mild not,te • • •
The STEASEn pit the question ; when the amend- , 111 AsiliNoTON OTT, Mir 16.-The firo ses :0n Cf flit
at ends ti ii- merit of Lord A. Hatuilton was negatived without a sixteenth Congress was terminated about tour 0•e1..d.
I morali . ,It divi,ioo. I yesterday afternoon, hr the adjournment of the ts,
lignite of the • . . Houses to the second Monday in November. The se.
7h,. House then divided on the Resolution •
moved •
be puliic eye., 'ions closed with perfect harmony. The Presidents.
s course, Nn i by Mr. Wilberforce :- I tended at the capital to receive and sign the Ifir.s, sei
se believed tile ; Aes
-(.1 kosgh, and : Noes • - lta shim of Congress has passed under our observing%
he imputations . 'son..-267
Majority in favour a the origins: motion..—YB 7 which loss been
marked
with
more deliberation
anicosi.
A conservation now arose as t.. the etude 10 which the Re-
s into the Is •Hess in its closing scene.
•"' S' I solution was to be presented to her Majesty.
'II; and if tl FROM H.traexan.-By the schooner Jane, we haw
...leY The SPIAKIII said. the usual tousle wee to eenslloolool
I.lllg eintrdish' ilt tosome of the officers of her Majesty's bouashriii.:. • received accounts of a duel hating been fusqht by tv
s rigid to say 'Mr. Ds
hoped it would be cony t.t.d in the melt yet. of the midshipmen of the United States brig, Enter.
out hope at the , %reedit! manner; end lie was confident it must be the lIIMe prize, on the 15th inst. (May), in which one was kilW.
, slio•dd serer of the llonse to an so.-(Load cries of Hear, hear !) The British ship of wet. 'Nautilus, from Jamaica, en
old advise his Mr. WiLinntronrr. Mr. It. W.svLxv, Sir T. Actenes taking in specie; the steam-ship, Robert Futile., Opt.
have been his , and Sir. BA Mig RS. were then .awed and appointed to welt ; loom arrived in ten days from New York, and salsa
no otheerne-; urea her Majesty, end present So her the Resolatlea of the - again the following day.
The markets continued id.
lof oh. kl 141 "Itusweas' proposed that Mr. Bentonite should oleo be one of ! A number of the people from the Stock Excitor
&Sanitised to I
. the Members to communicate the Resolution to the Queen, ; were very ausiously waiting in the avenues of lit
id thri,migh's4 bet the lloa. sad Loarnedaestitemam objected to the pupa- House of Commons, fur the two last evenings, 0
etc ersran._,' dila., motto, that!t would be nebeeoming is him to pm- ' catch the first indention of the proceeding, a 6
gra tler.a&-. :sent 'n Resolution. the rejlitNiesentotbiek be might possibly' .
t remove from ;be railed Imes to ads i.e. • . house. • Their so!witude was so extreme, that.*
but she bad ; Mr. TIRIWPCT wished to Aura from the Noble Lord if it , door-keepers, mistaking their object, Sesame alanoi
nation. of she was to be understood tkatilitinisters assented to have the and strangers were last night exclitied from thole*
go under the All'lr‘ss presented to her Mijesty with the usual ceremony
The zeal of these gentlemen, however, referred Mae
unlit be better tib'sreed he Addresses to the Royal Consort?
Lord Carrhanst.tou thought that the nature of the debate thing offeasive to the State. The only state on wkil
.1)-411"i'le"' wld furnisha proper soberer to the Ri hII 0 I 'their concern I I • the of h 'Fla.
g t on. est eman.
fortunate case. t';:r. T s ute xi Does the Noble Lord know where her • They deprecate
. . continuance of theßoyal
the tl tliffie
her .hid no al- Majesty is to be *round t--(A host.)
le Felt a repug- Lord Carr LLL rAA 11 said that was a eonsideration for the enem--because they imagism they depress the Stub.
NI to perform, (ientlemen who acre to present it to her. The Ihtke of Sussex has been solicited to sole ii
Iso dangerous Adjourned at Sive o't•lork this morning. I nam
ese to be included in the li
i st o
va Candidates
the
twit
engaged. Sii- . TO CORRESPONDENTS. 1 Prideney of the Royal Socety, ant by elli
such a coarse! lof Sir Josopb Banks.
----a...-
I follow. The Coett-ExcnaNcia,, Jetta 23.-We bad hut little dig
: The great pressure of issatter.orring to the length eMe De-
at our market this morning, the sale of all grain
,olio "6°4 '° bales, compels as to postpone the OA biter etf .lassrinais
e boo. If her es the trealsteut 4Um ge Er.N. n shall assuredly op- . exceedingly heavy, and the supply of Wheat add/
louse, she err- pear to-noorroto. . is larger than the demand •, even the Seed sellpi!
contents of a
hIAIL.o.
dm how a 31i- ' priers, and all other sorts were offered at a rondo
UUR. O! R. DL. ANL ICI.
a bag in one n Dahl',
Is. to 2s. per quarter.-afs are Is. per qr. chap%
tit anti cheers.) I Waterford
!mere the Rego- i Guernsey end Jersey
A ktiowu what 0 liottenburgh . II 0 Lisboa . 0
the Speaker I Hambergh 0 0 Malta
sty's Ministers ,
e Address was PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. NEWCASTLE RACES-
-3 far &deuce Bank Stock i India otoe&
rim and cheers.) s Per east. Red• 161414 DittolSonds Ils. 14s. pot. Ty Mime. itSs 20.
louse-or sop- stuCoos- Per Cu.CY. Old Annuities 11161 The Filly Stakes of Sig. eseh.- WI Oas &
retire 'Lein.- "'s Per east. 78•111 77 Ills. Bats lid. ls.2s. clls. 1 Mr. Watsoa's eh. IVoodbiao
4 per Costs. lOM Ditlo Cam 31. put. I The X. V. Z. Stakes ofllapeaeb, for 3-yr elds.-Twelllkt
I not return an it t.,,
.i avy C
oombe" pea.
.... ' Mr. Benson's b. e. 18 enueberiead .......... ,
her fortune if 11.... g Ann. 171 Co- .TN eel mi ~, ! Mr. Lambton's be. e: Sorediso
Is her honour, he-.
p slur Cent. Ann. Lott. Thiele CM 10s. I 4 to 1 apt Mr. Reissue b. e.-Wse 'my
be so get an - Renewal of the Oosforth Stakes.-Twe wiles.
Tetil Lag.-(A a. ski
Ido all that the ete ktattilman• , Marquis of Queensberry's be. a. Miss Bytom. -fro .
Mr. Storey's br. h. (Attie Eughted, 6•yrs MA • • • ......
r she had milli- " Ilia BRITON sTaTuWAs" is IArftIPOItATIM WITS " Two I Mr. lionibton's b, r. Agricola, 4-yrs old .............. 3
I
s °ovary, she sTAT=II4II." • 1 Mr. bramilleg's b. e. by Orville, 2-) rs old •• • ......... •
ght.she knew)
_ - ' Mr. Loßes's br. e. Vert, 11-yes 01d... ............... . •
rilkOlf-foopeee - • ,' - 'LONDON: . Mr. Yams's hr. h. Panlowitz, used
...... : ..........
f 4
rens coafideace Saner to • anti • la 1
,olitt ahe might TISIDAT LTIININse, Jinx 23, 1829. Paelowlte.-Won cleverly.--111riga="
poet, and bort the rider's leg.
edged The interest excited on the momentous question I tile Majesty's Plate of 100p.--Sear soles'_,, i
she Mr Lambum's p e• Casual. Cl 7 saLmllleo. 4/0_,0•"'
which hos so long engrossed the attention, of the coon- • -. •I. 1
Mr. T. O. Powkit s b. n. , 9111°1° •"'"'
I- try, has not been diminished by delay; *or leml the Mr. Hell's b. e. Alfred, by Fits- &yrs aid fr •
;self!" Mr. Storey's gm. e. Walleagar. km C qPW
runitiers which had been circulated respecting the'i to iso
' 6 to 4 apt Coasul-7 to 4 apt
• •••• •f the shape in which it Was about to be argued abated in the Yl'oa dal Y.
I the Country. •
, evidence were least degree the popular solicitude as to its result or BETTING AT TATTERSALL'I,Igat IL •
dlicasslos. Last night the aaalety of the public again ---
et.cesrallinilogt DONCASTER ST. LISLE.
orted money by Ailed the avenues of the Hume of Commons, and the 9to i apt lord deetees Astunino
, bear !)-ivea strandinee of the Members was as great as on the oven- le to 1 apt Arbutus, by Widneatotrid--;
Ii •••1111 haul o'
las before. About fire clock in the afternoon, Kr. ii° to I agst Mr W. al°2lrldr°
bosom moo et - out, 1 ern woodbine
ple uamr be- Kunsaronee rose to make his promised motion; gad
OXFORD cuictrrt.
casiip
ead.
dithrods boot the Haase 'enthused in debate upon it till near five
Before Mr. Justice BUT and Mr. Jolliet
high Um Quell o'slock this morning. The object of the motion. ilastasatar-lifonday. July 10. at AM
se orCl=
pal la a as we sided is a Seemed lielition of our Paper „,,,. thiroaosulais-Wedieoday. July 11, at .
e-- Ilfetamostaaantax--Sitteut ay, July bloat w
suableg which tardy evening. was to invite the Wren. in ern or weactsTaa--Same day, at the City
bruvgnar 1)-
Aser. as Address which should be presented to her No- Caller*
Srorrosaantaa-Thiroday, Jol7_llll.
, didarod riot Jury. to yield. to compliance with the wishes of Par-
Saralloulita-Wsioaity„ J4lO. d
60114•10411111 Rimiest, the grand point In dispute relative -to the' Hoogeotoemos- , 31, at
I . molt ode.
ystigg. *ma redo/dim at her name in the Lhaqpi 6 sad this oli- 2.°"°t"reonla • VI sh a:
Ilinecaorilluddi-Milketidekr ___
iy Aided M. into,* far at least as the Roam of Vossimmas le to urn or Gueoessirs.-.00. ,ne ihstaq
"I." 'l'd Maid* wan dolfilefoly asennylislied, for the Motion seam •
Nam. sod old.
=Ai of vas. twat carried by a maltseity of no less sham 117. the •
liki ma numbers being fee the modes 11111. aglialit It 129.-- " Tait Ituensissst" and "Tan
Mg was tile.... 91„tiods0
With whisk the 1.
For the arguments advanced on the different sides Peller)' /IL Nit air"
by R. WARDILL. Jon...rtts Oa view
and egged MI of the qusedeut. ye sot Wks est Baden te eteeeeetieee, °teem Its. eee relesomt sets
, /.