The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-02-02 00:00:00

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'lr. CALVERT moved for certain Papers
ints connected with the Conrt of Requests i
roulrh of Southwark.—Ordered.
Ihe ACCOVNTANT-URNIRAL of the Court

eery appeared at the Bar of the House, wil
papers connected with the Court of Chancery
the table.

Sir It. WILSON visored for copies of a circular which
IBA been sent to the different Ministers at Foreign
Courts, dated Foreign Office, the 19th of July, Ite2o.
I Ordered

31r, GRENFELL mowed for an Account of the Copper
imported and exported during the year ending the
sth of January, 1t421, distinguishing the qualities,
quantities, and the different Ports to which it had
been sent, or from which it hail come.—Ordered.
Mr. J. P. GRANT moved for an Annual Account of
the Amount of the National Debt of England and Ire-
land, including the Austrian and Portuguese Loans,
under their separate beads, from the year 171,6 down to
the present
111r..1AMES said, that at a time like the present,
when the country wasgroaning under a load of taxation,
it was but just that we should call fur tire debt due to us
by Austria to this conntry.—(Dear, hear.)—lie trusted
his Hon. Friend (31r. R. S.stritii) who hail given notice of
a motion on the subject, would follow it up.
111 r. J. P. GRANT pledged himself to give his best
@rapport to any motion brought foruard on the subject of
the Austrian Loan. The -lion. and Learned Member
then moved for a variety of accounts connecreil with the
annual charge of managing the funded and unfunded
debt of Engl end and Ireland, ineluling the Austrian
and Portuguese laws, fl.ont the year 17'46 iluten to the
present time.—Ordered.
Lord J. RUSSELL gave notice (for to-tnormw, as we
understood the Noble Lord), of a motion on the subject
of the late military outrage at Kilina;nhaut.
A short conversation occurred between Mr. R. SNIT'',
Lord Csssizatiscrn and Mr. TIERNEV, on the subject of
Mr. Smith's motion, after which
Mr. SMITII moved that an littni:ile address be pre-
sented to his Majesty, praying that there he laid hero' e
the House an account of the sums advanced by thisroirn-
try to Austria in 17113 and 1797, together with a copy
of the l'unyention then entered into. with the Emperor ;
also an account of the amount of Dividends, and other
charges advanced by this country in cUtisequenceof non-
payment by Aw4ria.—Ordered.
After a few worts from Lord CASTLEREAGH and Mr.
TIERNEY' across the table, we understood the motion to
be agreed to.
FORGERY OF BANK NOTES.

Mr. GRENFELL made some i nriries respaeing the
Anal Report of the Commissioners appointed to inves-
tigate the methods for preventing the forgery of Bank
notes. It was impossible to tt itnessand no .to lament,
the melancholy executions which were continually tak-
e in., place for the crime of forging Batik notes. lie
wished to ask the Right lion. Gentleman opposite when
the new notes would he ready.
'Flue CtIANCRI,LOR of the F,XCIIF,QI' ER in reply.
we understood to say, that the notes woohl he produced
at the. earliest possible season. The most sangitibe
hopes hat been entertained that they would have been
ready. Wore that tinte.
Mr. tiltE\ PELL did understand that the plan for the
new notes was settled in rebroary last, and he was
sorry to tool, that it was still in a state which wanted,
exertion.
Mr. U, UILBERT said, that the great object was to
obtain from one artist a note which no other could pro-
duce, ant from tivte to time the specimens had progres-
sively iluproved; so as to induce them to hold back for
'some edge longer. That was undoubtedly an evil, hut
net so great a one is if they were not to attain that per-
(reason is the new smote, which was expected.
itrueriErr considered that there mast
baimppdiliwaltp in obtaining from one art;e7, what
' 'others could not imitate. He was willing to allow ill:a

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the Address was a bieL pr. lege. - ---
Member read the Address from the presbytery of Lane-
holm, in the County of Dnmfries, as it was pubtished in
the Gazette of Jan. the V. The paesa,le to „hick he
objected was the following:
We have witnessed with much concern, and we
strongly deprecate, the spirit of disaffection lately b -
come so prevalent, front what we would term the v ule t
and unconstitutional speeches of the Om ositioo.
both Houses of Parliameut, end the infamous scurrility
and misrepretrentation of a licentious press."
The Clerk at the table having read the passages in
the Address complained of.
Sir JOIIN NKIVPOILT moved that it was a
mani-
fest breach of the essential privileges of this !louse cf
Parliament.
Lord CASTLEREAGII observed, that in point lit
fact the lion. liaranet ought to have confined his iiiii-
tiun to those parts which constituted the hrearli, sif 1
not have involved the whole paper, in which, in point
of fact, there were many passages which did not clunk-
under that des ription. Ile, however, allowed that
there were passages in it which it would be ditil7olt
to defend, if pressed upon the notice of the House,
and he was the last person in the world to sanetiots
any encroachment on the privileges of that Hoeg..
It was only generally, and under prudential cnr-
siderations, that he submitted it to the Right
llon.mrable Baronet whether this was a case for
pushing the matter to its extent. Would it be ad-
vantageous, amid the multitude of libels un the Hmise
and on its Members, with which the press teemed, to
take op one insulated example, or by diiinizso perrolce
a general proceeding against all who offended, which,
if done, would entirely weepy Partiament for many
ttttt nths, and put a stop to all other business. The
flight lion. Bart. had, he was sure taken a mere fair
and lila ril view of it, and be went along with hint in
his statement ; but he put it to him that the matter
could not be espied further than the bringing it
specifically before the. House (which be would not
resist), without causing a wi ler inovenieot than could
be wished on either side. it appeared to him that the
nom Baronet could not have heard the fail explana-
tion given by his Friend (Mr. Bathurst) on 'a former
night, otherwise he might not have thought even the
present proceeding neees-ary. Pis Right Hon. Friend
bad stated that the Addresses for publication in the
Gazette wore selected from the whole number cresent-
ed by the Noble Secretacy of State, his relative; but
he bad further declared in the present instance, time
publication had taken plate in cons qnence of an over-
sight of inadvertency. and that it ottasionel regret
when it was diseovereil.—(Hear, (tear')--The ri aetice
WAS the practice of all Administrations, ai,J man
foal:J.lrd en pripciples of sound reason and jus.ice ;
a id he arAntil that if this was auk fur thellaz:tte, so,
' a fortiori, were many of the Athlete/tee, her. otothe
other side of the question to he published were they
appeared. lie was convinced, that tinder the explo-
itation of his Bight Hon. friend, the RUht flog.
Baronet would admit, that in tar Avis the °dense
being argravetad by the cookout of Uoinirnasee46 it
became extenuated by their protect. The indiguaticn
of the House therefore we 614 be misdirected In this
ease, and be hoped the Right Hen. Baronet would tsr
satlified that it was net that which rendered It neces-

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Its now em- it was that of free debate. It had been stated on a for-
due In that met- night, that Ministers had a right of selection in
the übli Lion of ddresses: that nonswrselectitsi
* .it Noet-- - '' niisly reeeffar 'flat is
e Menebet4,- wirii ' would publish those while -express-
rs and Ac-4od .. Ile
begged the House to see ow. far sac i i plateliiwterabil
i in the 110- go. It invested Ministers with the power of giving the
Royal sanction and authority to any censure which
rt of Chan- might apply to any class of his Majesty's subjects. Ile
.ith ""*"' conceived it to be impossible for the Howie to doubt that
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the Address was a breach of privilege. _ Here the Hurt.