The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-07-23 00:00:00

Mr. HUME complained that information was not
given by the Hosoarable Baronet on the subject of the
expenses of the Board. The charge for the Lissa Hall
was much greater than was necessary. In 1921 it
amounted to 5,9291. for salaries slope, many of which
could be dispensed with.
After a few words in explanation from Sir Orates
Hitt, Mr. Rica, and Mr. Hums, the Resolution was
agreed to.
An additional sum of 4761. 16s. sd. was voted for the
service of the Chairman of the Board of Ireland.
NAVIGATION IN taat.stro.
A vote for 16,1541. was then carried for the purpose
of defraying the probable expenditure of the Board or
Works in Ireland.
A sum of 17,5001. was agreed to for the expenses of
Printing and Stationery of the Chief and Under Secre-
tary's Office and Public of the Castle in Dublin.
Amete of 7,000/. was proposed.. foe the purposes of
psylent the charges for Proclamations in the Dublin
Gazette end other papers.
Mr. O. BENNET -complained of the great abases
which, he said, were evident is the distribution of Pro-
clamations to papers which had but a small eircelatioa.
They were given as bribes or retaieing fees, for the pur-
chase of corruption in the public press of Ireland. He
would move as an amendment, that the vote be reduced
to 3,500/.
Mr. GOULBURN defended the practice of the Irish
Government in the distribution of Proclamations. •
Mr. HUBIE &imported the amendment. As an in-
stance of the description of papers to which proclamee
times were given, be foetid that lOW. a-vear had been
paid to a paper called the Minimums 'Journal; and
when be wished to prpcuve one of its numbers, he &sod
there were but three atheist printed daily, all of which
were sent to the public offices, to show that the procla-
mations were inserted. He also thought that the Dub-
lite Gazette might be dispensed with. It cost the moo-
try 3124/. last year, and there were but fifty mashers of
it published. The Hibernian Animal, which was pub-
lished three times a week. be understood was purchased
up by Government fora large sum of mosey, though
the type was not worth 501. Such papers only kept op
as Orange spirit, and if Government were disposed-en
pet it down; they would sot encourage papers which '
cherished a party spirit. He was informed spots pretty
good authority, that the Masters in Chancery in Ire-
land, particularly Mr. Ellis and Mr. Ball, interfere with'
attorneys, for the purpose of inducing them to give ad-
vertisements to these party papers, • practice which
could not be too much censured. He regretted that the
practice of encouraging certain papers only had ex-
tended to England also. In 1816, of 1359/. paid to news-
papers for inserting prnelaniatioos, he found that 2331
wee given to three weekly papers, of which be bad
before heard the names, the National Register, the 1•014-
dos end Provincial Gazette, and the British Neptune,
while there was only 651. paid to the Times, 811. to the
Courier, 661. to the Alarming Post, nod 581. to the Sun.
He found that the same practice extended to the distri-
bution of the Navy and Ordnance advertisements. If
it were the object of Government, as it ought to be, to
give circulation to the advertisements, they took the
worst possible mode of attaining it. He hoped the Com-
mittee would not grant so large a sum for the. Gazette.

Mr. GOULBURN observed that, as to the Hibernian
Journal, it ceased as a newspaper before he came into
office; and If the delicate circumstances of his situation
immediately on the commencement of his office were
known, the house would excuse Lim gicinganyexplana-
tion on the subject. As to the Dungannon paper, the
Hos. Gentleman's assertion that be could not procure a
copy of it, event rather to show the extent of its eircula-
tion, for the editor had not a copy, and so valuable a
treatise did every body who had one, think it, that be I
could sot afford to oblige even the Hon. Gentleman with
a loan of it.—(A langb.)—He disclaimed any intention
of supporting party spirit in encooragingpublic journals.
Mr. S. RICE contended that the present practice of
giving. advertisements to papers which were the least
extensive in circulation, was not the way to give them
publicity. If publicity were the object, they should be,
given to the papers on both sides, which were best cal-
culated to attain that object. As to the Gazette, he II
knew that by law, it was necessary to maintain it, but
be still thought the expense might be diminished.

Mr. HOULBURN said that mess were taken to
diminish the expenses of it, and be believed that the
charge of advertisements were now lower id it than in
any other paper.
Mc. HUME said that pensions of 10(V. each we*
Riven to Mr. Canning and Mr. Richardson. the Wilma
of the llungadnon paper, and he understood that the re-
commendation for a pension to Mr. Canning came from
Lord Northland. If the papers which he had moved for
were allowed to he laid on the table, he believed these
items would be found in them however, if not true, be
called upon the Right Hon. Secretary upon his honour
to deny them, at least the one to Mr. Canning. 11a bad
no doubt that such papers were kept up to support party
spirit, and he hoped the Committee would not vote mo-
tley for such a purpose.

Mr. R. MARTIN said be did not think Government
bad any such object in view; for iu the county in which
he resided, a journal abused and calumniated hint for
supporting Government. though this journal received
Uovegpment advertisements. Ile represented the cir-
cumstlsee to Mr. Gregory, requesting him to interfere;
he, however, did not interfere,and lie supposed the paper,
the Connarght Journal, went on still abusing him.
The Gallery was then cleared for a division.—For the
original grant, 48—Against it, ll—Majority in favour
of the original grant, 37.
On our return to the Gallery we found Mr. GouLnutat
proposing a vote of 22A0/. fur defraying the expense
of Criminal Prosecutions, which was agreed to. •
The following votes were then agreed to : 1,3001. foe
defraying the expenses ofapprebending public offenders,
and 1,4401. for paying the salaries of the Commissioners
ef Lottery Offices.
A vote of 20,000/. was proposed for defraying the ex-1
proses of die Civil Contingent tee, which was agreed to,

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