The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-04-25 00:00:00

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_.....ended, thartliii war iesitead-of Rte...
,wiry say eaves of Worm .for thirst* of Ettmln. Mat Ils_
calculated ter -excite the most Dimly appeeheusions -with re-
igned ...Frame ; (or the dilleulty of Aks canniest, .great
teoughsuader any eireemstance% was.ebashierahly-enhaest-
ed bribe manner in which ti.st country would be obliged to
mailman her army, by drawing her seppliet from home.-.
Ilits be had proved that Franishallibut Mule respect-at
eueeess in her undertaking, and under such eiroamstaneadlei
• would put KM thelloum whether weiwerejustifiedin -restate
• !Iwo a warnithout that calculating thechaaies of assn. ii..
-medelvedoretestlthe policy of those whammy, " you engag
, 46 Ale svar.oPtle Peninsula to assist the Spaniards agulnst
.Frenok invasion, and you drove out the Freneli at 'that
time ; why not do so row ?" It appeared difficult to an=
'ewer such an appeal to one's feelings and judgment. But
isewould.say, as he slid before, that the cases were not
similar. In leinti we went-to assist • united people-mew.
we would not only hove to fight •the French inraders,,
• but t, rerotr.ile contending factions in the country we,
went to assist. It had been said, assist them with your,
ships ; bolt chips *mild not do. If we meant to aid them
etfeoteally, we'should be oblieell to rend an army wider•
the constisand-of the Noble !Juke, or some other eine-
rieneed General, and expose ourselves to all Lie inconve-
nience and expertre, from the effects of which we are but.
just vuov!villif. The question then resolved itself to,
this-arewe prepared to engage io the oar now, °reboil
we weit.for events which why prevent the neressity ?-
if we do engage in it, however, -it lutist be finally and.
efteettially. 1 his was the restion-it bad been tome
• timetaikire the pubite ; they'hadde6leil upon it, and he.
tiriimeslabe-alttiost unanimous •wiith of the country was,
that pease might in preserved. Ilus 'Noble Lord bad
anid.-slioll stwoolloW.Oteraeleesto lorso;one in thearaiwof.
despots, or pimp gee pindiesta .our.cbasader &sibs:leader;
of independent States ?-(flear.) He (Lord Liverpool)
cool-1 have no difficulty in statiew his opinions upon
. .Aliatmetleject.e-Alethooglst- the policy 44 chi( youbtry,
and.that most consonant to the spirit of the British Con-
,_ . agitation. was to steer a initidlecniuse between demo-,
, crow and monerchy—to keep free from idle extremes,.
amity become neither the abet:era-of ,pare deapetitun on
the one hand, nor.of wild anarchical liberty on the other.
---(tismr.) These, his principles, were embodied in a
note of the late Marquess of LOndontierry of January
JB2l. They were laid down, with reference not only to
* the Aetnal arentnstances of the country at that period,
hut to those which might possibly *emir afters% ards.-
With respect to our foreign etletions, the obvious po-:
hey r‘f this country land that ice which ninetymirre out
• at a buntlred would concur, was * remain at 'mace.,
What o• may row oat of grow noon. could
e
• foresee, but under all the circumetansershe thought 'lto
chance of pi ace-being preserved was meal to 'taut of -a
'coltinnatice of the war. •
'- ' • Earl Oftfir explained. s ..
.. Load AU:AMA V said a few weir& • •
Thit'3larerems oftfiliNoll(iii"N skiii;tbat at'fhat late
hone he should be room' unwilling to like tip' the limo of
+heir -Lord elii ,m, but•that ~ be' was desirous to enter his
neatest against the conclading sentences of the lkohle
Earl's
.itriereli.,' Ha elledril to his remallta. upon the re-.
aria' ainite of Burope. tie saw with rogret es lively as
• that tilt by 'his Jmrdsbip tic progress of .opinions
throughout Europe, which were likely to bream. the
ranee of confesion and tlisbonwir. '144 he could not
conrur in the inference which the Noble Lord-drew from
hisgresiises. or believe that the present qinothen seas one'
• ,boss-een democracy of miniarch.y. stmt t me which its-
,. valved iihr Luterems of every indepeailent nation (he a r).l
•Caulitttaao Voids Lotil say thad.Spaan was &slams torsi:
omit ley .fusee her demutvatical hastitetione to -rotifer ea-1
i .tivasti Was them not, en the (*larder, a manifest Anti-
position and deerniiiiation on the pwrt‘ht utter notions,
to wply their institutions to Spain. Let not the Noble:,
Loot then.kay that this ' was a iiiiestien • between dries'
cracy and monarchy ; -let him ratner confess 4bat• th
is aliattempt to ~t-sp d military despotism in the Ales t
..
, of Swope, (leme)teni thereby compel isrdepetedmit niP
timeso change their Coemitutiona. Thia.maathe get at•
.---mneraiwspeereithltlitTlESTonetry. ems deeply}interesp
'aisl;asotalbioh if it did not'assist •ta tieterminnsc no*,
*chile hereafter, determined when it was toaArtb for
sslaor interference,—for, said the. Noble hiaetinls. le
no man•
'se . •-- -"Lay the flaWering unction. to his soul,"
that.tbevositngion of those principles which beetstint&
;melt progress, which assisted 4w-pulling down libert
c in Italy mad Nsples, will, if not ehoriceat io Spain, be
kept from oar own shores. The .nneotion which had
a ibis night been hrenght before the House was ens in
r sahleb ibe interests of this and every other independent
fr• station was deeply involved. " fits Majesty's Alinistees,
• lad incurred a heavy responsibility, and they were that
• ".,Ilight open their fetal • flow lied they conducted their
feese?
.4 asserting that from Match, 1620. th AM.
e4..they were entirely ignorant of the intentions of
room towards Spain. Subsequently they did not sup-
t'
poSe France would make a direct attack upon that couu-
•.ssys =alertly, when her designs were no longer die-
..avowed, they imagined she would refraia from regard to
1-. ster* own interests. Thus, by their own showing, was
• 'Government convicted of grossignoresme, misapprehen-
sion, and erroneous views, clueing -the whole progress of
~she negoclatioes. He was surprised to hear the Noble
. President of the Council declare it as his opinion
. that France would still (after ail that had occurred)
- 'refrain from attacking Portugal from regard to her
own interest. • That consideration. if it had 13a4 any
weight, * would have prevented her from attacking
Wrists, and was it to be supposed that when she had'got
possession of that country she would hesitate to invade
• Portugal. In order to account for the present unsettled state
'; Otßurope, it was necessary (said the Noble Metquenallo
go Week to the peace of Vienna. After contending that. it,
',was Mimed Kith reference to vulgar interests, and did nut,
mann the pablle interests, an it he wondered at (said the
Noble Marmites) Shot the love of liberty should now break'
forth in rather an unpalatab e form. The real question be;
fore the House was, whether independent potions should be
lett free to choose their own instltodam. undismayed by tho'
hayooets, and unlageeneed by tne ISelitkofaßg other ['owes?'
With, these sentiments, he should fesphikhig duty to support*
the motion id kis Noble Friend. ~.... .•%, •
, Lord•PLLB*MOROUGII rspliatis -- .1,-.
h Th. 'ada *Lea dislike( ou.the mesiesiment. For the
* amembinint, 116; proxies, 40-142.-Against thp amenit-
ies-0,2g : proxies, .10-46. -lainjority for Nan anutudaten44.
At half-put two the House adjourned. - . •

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HOUSE OF COMMONS, Teunsba,4allaists. 96.4,' •
Mr. Secretary. CANNING preteiited &Mir pepeel'br
order ( his Majesty. ^a c
A person from the Liverpool Dock Oompes, peerealed,
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the aeceests of that company.

Kevefal petitions were piesent4dllolBo duo Southwark
Coen of Requests' Bill.
Mr. MONNE presented a petition team thedrVateel of the
Wheigune 'toad, against certain masses. 44 the Holyhead
Ind Rowth Harbour Bill, which went to take the monde*
. Oleg! of the rood out of the hands of Abe present trustees,,
tool'vt•st it iu the commissioners. •
1 • Mr; Alderman SMITH said a few words is so lOw a'
to/to Hutt we could not 'catch their meaning,
• M. V. FIZGERALD definded the clause' of the Bill.
INC% he asserted was touch calumniated in the petition be-
fore the Hothie, and thought that no further discussinit Humid
take place during the absence of the lion. Baronet (Sir 11.
Parnell), with whom that Bill had oeginated, and to whom
he thought the public very much Indebted.
After some further con tion, the petition was referred
is the committee of the said Rill.
On the motion of Mr. DRNISON. the second mailing of
the Southwark Court of Requests' Bill was postpuned to
Friday the 2d of May.
Mr. J. CARTER presented a petition from the inhabi-
tants of Portsmouth and Purtsen, against the P..rtson.utli
Fishery Rill. which he said went to exclude a portion of 14.4
Majesty's subjects from their rights, by modeling it incum-

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lint on them to %TV tojeitede of.the es‘laileatemiallse/Sfl
-liberty-to 'Rah.
Hie f, ioegrato sad wt. iff.maimi apposed-the pall,
S litepetition.
ee ATTORMIIT-HENERAL supported It.
The petiti wee tkentordered to be rited en- p G
Mr. B RBU@HAIL 84,61 ft-one 4f the Leeds ante -Me
mireity,(Sir H. Cleek).la his plane, wished toputsgeadliall
to.him. -He had just bees 'informed that a fifpaalskeemeila.
laden With treaters-fur theilpanish Government. had bees
;Raptured by 'a french ermine the 'WM ladles,
.cironinstaisees that, if trite, mould make oat a -.raw vir
piracy, and entitle us to hang up every .esan on heardHlie
erniser, or of gross peelidy on thepett oftlieGoeneamentdf
"ranee. 'rhe omit-ere had taken plebe six weeks *go, wed.
the-orders anestmonsequently bete been Issued floe-or Ms
weeks before, and- whilst aegoclations were goiag ea -be-
tween thetwo Goternments. He wished to know if suck
'were the heti
.iiirldEOßOW CLERK said, be could not iknewer Hon.
Member's geestion.as he had no informition on it. alb-.
b..s through the medium of the pehliciournele.
Mr. GOOCH presented a petition from the county of
Sufiblk for Parliamentary Reform, but could sot pledge
'himself to euppott Its prayer.
Mr. GOOCH presented a petition from fifteen magis-
trates of the county-of eluffu)k, praying for some alteration
of the game laws.
Mr. GRENFELL presented a petition 'from the Inhabit-
ants of She borough ofVenehye,tgainat the duties on tools.
—Ordered to lie-en the table.
Sir E. ICNATCIIIIL'LL presented a petition drew the
freeholders and occupiers of land iu the county of Kent.
'preying for some relief against the preesure of Agriculturdl
-Distress.—Ordered to beleinted.
Lord STAHL/Min:tee-to tisk the Hight Ilonourebie
tretary for [foreign Affairs, whether he would object to tine,
production of a document connected with the tete snook-
tione, the nature of which, from thelow tone in which the
Noble Lord-spoke, we were unable to °Mire.
. -Mr. CitN NINO _ltsid that -aa estreet from that demean*.
had been already laid before the public, and that the paper
which was celled for by the Noble Lord would not tend to
throw any additioval'iight upon the subject In discussion.
Mr. 61,1IiVeLL moved for a return df Debtors im-
prisoned ha %et:Mead-for the Mat sir years, specifying -the
nature of their debts, sad dietlnguisiting these me Rader U.
and 20L—Ordered.
Mr. KENNEDY brought in a Bill to regulate The mode
of eendeeting Criminal Prosecutions in Iteotlend.—Read a
drat ;is,. and arderedlo be swaths second time ea Friday,
the 2d of May. ,

THE NOESOLIC PETITIQ.N.
Mr, pres. wed a potitiou from the ooLility, gen-
try, clergy, and freeholders of the
,county of Norfolk,
praying for a reform in the Commons' Rouse 'ef l'atlia-
anent
tFer the dircnesion that arose en This occasion, see the
Mint cobras of our last page.]
TaX ON WMI4.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition franc cer-
tain inbabi teats ,of London and places adjacent thereto,
,praying for a repeal of the Duty ott.e.oals carried coast-
etays. He trusted that the flight Hon. Chlocellor of the
Itsetgrerer would give a pledge th it this Tax should ha
•enstingst dip first remissions of the pobli.: buithens.
Art 1H041414.11U5S and Mr. Altlerunrn tidal DOES sup-
7ted the

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Tire Cld ANCELLO R, of the EXCWIQU ER said, that
the ei•uzion of the country previewed env further reolne.
Von of taxes during the.premmt year. The Worthy Al-
th•rman wished him to give a pledge that this tax should
be Teinire.l In the canna; Sesoon . • hut the elute reason
*dolt! prevent • his complying with that regeest. If the
nowirry -continued at peace, and the same Ilmni.shing
sante .ef the revenue went on, he should consider it his
'ditty to go into a general revision of the taxation of the
ronntry, with a view to girt, up inch taxes as the gene.
cal interests of tlie uelant4y could beet dispense with.—
Near. ; •
.The Poitionsonatilleral to be printed.
'or',IIIc.*:ATWOOMMOMei ter a return of the quantity,
price oft**, bolts and sheathing, and ether stores
led tor by the Navy, and also by the Board, of
#llhriince 'dime ISIT.--Thaered..
Mr. A BERCROMBY said he had a Petitirette pre-
*eitt ftoorthe'CiWrif taitiburgir, priyhkw a 'term tn,
Parliament; but from the lateness of the hour he should
deter it to another occasion, when it was hie intention to
give notice of a motion epos the subject. •
. Me. HUME.presented a Petition from Selkirk, prapi
Lug Reform. Ordered to be printed.
. • Mr. HONEY WOOD prevented $ Petition from the
Hendred of finmbleyard in Norfolk, complaining of
Agrimaltaral Distress, and disclaiming the County Peti-i
tioo. 'Ordered to be printed.
Mr. O. BENNET presented a Petition from Rochdale,
praying Reform. Orti..red to be printed.
Lord ARCHI BALD HAMILTON presented a Petition
from the Island of Arran, praying for a restoration of
the Duties on Berilla.
After a few words from the CHANCELIAnt of the
EXCHEQUER, the Petition was ordered to lie on the
table.