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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-08-02 00:00:00

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age system into operation, but the present Government had
given notice to Mr. Hill that his services will be dispensed
with at the close of the present quarter.
A conversation occurred respecting the inconvenience re-
sulting from the intervention of dragomans in the intercourse
between our ambassadors and the Turkish Government, in
the course of which

Lord PALMERSTON said he had endeavoured to induce
the universities to establish to establish the study of the
Turkish and Arabic languages, with the view of obtaining
persons properly qualified to fill responsible situations in
the East.

On the supplemental vote of £lO,OOO for education,
Mr. P. HOWARD said that as the money was collected
from the whole community it should be shared by the Ca-
tholic schools.

Mr. O'CONNELL was of the same opinion, and said it was
a manifest injustice, that by the terms under which the grant
was distributed Catholics were excluded.
On the vote of £59,934 for South Australia,
.... _

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the ex-
periment of a self-supporting colony had proved in this in-
stance a total failure.

Lord STANLEY, however, expressed a hope thst the co-
lony would ultimately prosper, and be enabled to pay back a
portion of the money advanced by this country.
Mr. H UME opposed the vote, but the committee on a di-
vision affirmed it by a majority of 75 to 13.
On the vote of £217,951 for the expenses of the land
forces in China, a laughable collision took place between
Mr. Hume and Sir C. Napier. The gallant officer told Mr.
Hume be knew nothing about the navy, and was continually
moving for nonsensical returns respecting it.
In reply to this Mr. HUMS logically proved that Sir C.
Napier, by saying that he moved for nonsensical returns,
called him a fool—for nonsensical . returns were foolish re-
turns, and no one but a fool would move for foolish returns.
He also insisted that the man who supported a fool must be
a greater fool still, and Sir Charles had continually supported
him in the returns he moved for. The hon. member then
retaliated by saying that if he had moved for nonsensical re-
turns Sir Charles had made very foolish speeches.
In reply to a question from Mr. M. PHILIPS,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the
6,000,000 of dollars paid by the Chinese for the ransom of
Canton Teas applied to the expenses of the war with China.
Mr. D. ISRAELI said that the war was waged against the
government of China rather than against the people. This
he thought wrong. If it had been waged against the people,
so far as to destroy their commerce, the war would have
been over before now.

Sir R. PEEL said that in waging war against the commerce
of the people of China they would be at the same time
waging against the commerce of the people of England.
Mr. O'CONNELL said it was less desirable to do this as
the justice of the war was somewhat questionable.
The vote was then agreed to. _ . _

Some other votes being agreed to, the house resumed

Mr. S. CRAWFORD then moved, in pursuance of a petition
from a large number of electors and inhabitants of the
town of Nottingham, that a new writ be issued to elect a
member for that borough in the room of Sir G. Larpent.
Dr. BOWRING seconded the motion ; and Mr. HumE said
that it was useless to resist the motion after the course pur-
sued on the preceding evening. They were enacting a farce,
and it was useless to continue any longer.
Mr. BERNAL said it was a more serious reflection than
any resulting from the mere issue of these writs that, at the
close of the session, they would leave the house without
having advanced a single step towards suppressing these
enormities. For his own part, this reflection filled him with
the deepest disgust.

Mr. it. YORKE opposed the issue of the writ, for he could
not suppose that the bill of Lord John Russell against bri-
bery had not yet passed into law.
After a few words from Sir R. INGLis,
Sir R. PEEL said he had assented to the suspension of the
writs in the first instance, in order that inquiry might be
made, but now the committee had made its report, and that
report contained no recommendation of any ulterior mea-
sures, it would, therefore, be unconstitutional to suspend the
writs for an indefinite time, and for no apparent object. He
hoped to see some clauses introduced into the Bribery Bill
to prevent head-money and treating, and he entertained no
doubt but the House of Lords would, in deference to the
House of Commons, pass the bill. At all events he would
in no way be a party to its defeat.
Mr. WA RD supported the issue of the writ.
Lord PALMERSTON would rather the writs had been post-
poned until the Bribery Bill passed into a law; not that he
had any doubt about its passing, but he knew there was a
great difference in the impression on the minds of electors
between a bill already passed, and one in transitu through
parliament. He should not, however, oppose the issue of
the writs, though he would rather they had been postponed
for a week.
The writ was then issued.

The orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
house adjourned.

HOUSE OF OF COMMONS.-SATURDAY

On the motion of Mr. GREENED the report of the com-
mittee of supply was brought up and agreed to.
On the order of the day for going into committee on the
Newfoundland Biil.

Mr. G'CONNELL moved, as an amendment, that the com-
mittee on the bill should be postponed until that day three
months. His object was to delay the bill until a communi-
cation could be received from the parties interested. He
could not see the necessity for this alteration in the consti-
tution of the colony, when, according to the statement of the
governor of it, the trade of the country was flouriaing, and
the revenue ample and increasing. There was not g what-
ever to justify such a proceeding, and he believed the real
reason for interfering was, because the majority of the people
of the island were Roman Catholics.
Lord STANLEY said, that at the last election in New-
foundland great excitement was produced by the conduct of
some of the Roman Catholic priests, and this it was led to
the suspension of the House of Assembly, and the present
bill was intended to restore that body with some modifica-
tions. He denied that the majority of Roman Catholics was
so great as the right hon. gentleman appeared to suppose.
On the contrary, he believed the population were pretty
equally divided as to religious belief, and this bill would give
no advantage to any one party over another.
Mr. Hasa said, there were 70,000 Catholics, and only
30,000 Protestants. He protested against the measure as
one of gross injustice. _ _

On the motion of Mr. PAKINGTON the debate was ad-
journed.

Mr. P. M. STEWART brought up the report of the Ips-
wich election committee, which declared that Lord Desert
and Mr. Gladstone were not duly elected, and that they had,
through their agents, bee❑ guilty of bribery and treating ;
but that there was no/evidence that it took place with the
knowledge of the sitting members. The committee teem-
mended that no new writ should be issued until the evidence
should be printed and laid upon the table of the house.
Mr. Escorr gave notice that he would this evening move
that a new writ be issued for Ipswich.
Adjourned.

THE NORTH AMERICAN STEAMERS

(From the Nautical Magazine.)

We lay before our readers, from an authentic source, a
statement of the time occupied in making the passages be-
tween Liverpool and Halifax, being all those made by this
successful line since its commencement to the month of June
last. The document is a most important one in steam navi-
gation, first, as not only showing the certainty of a ()dick
communication across the Atlantic at all times of the year,
but the average rate at which it may be made. The passage
put gives 7,86 miles per hour, while that home, influenced by
prevailing wind and current, gives 9.3 miles.
The mean between these may be taken as the average
speed obtained at sea, or what may be calied the sea-rate.
In this case the sea-rate is 8.58 miles per hour. It will be
seen in our volume for 1837, p. 752, that the sea-rates of the
Atalanta and Berenice, in those comparatively-early days of
steam navigation, varied from 6 to 91 miles, the average of
all &given being 71 miles. When it is considered that the
passages of the British and North American line have all
been made across the stormy Atlantic, while those above
quoted were, at least two-thirds of them, in moderate
latitudes, there is every reason to congratulate the proprie-
tors on the result.