The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-03-20 00:00:00

THE STATESI

:oho Wititworth; be had seen him drilling them ; and t
oho ll:sylvan! hail been employed in tier same was%
here torn had been. the former a private in the dth,
all the latter a private in the 16th Maroons ; did not
s•-• tab-et arcing either of these met. aids the bodies'
I • oohing- to Manchester on the ItOh.
/'rust--xanninr,l by lianttort!.—Was sworn to tell the t
tr.ith, the whole trails, mot isotititte but the truth. Re- 1
toe Ileled of the evidence he had given nopertino the
chair. and the motive fornetal to Middleton. he had said
that he stsprosed, from what hr (Bamford) said, that he
oislerti the marching party 1 be peareable moll orderly,
net only At MiJilleton hut everywhere die. Had heard
examiner say nothing &bow the woe to which the flags
leery to he put that day. Was not above a dozen yards
Irma lie monitor (Raustioi) while he was speaking.
and could hear him well. but heard no mare that: he
hail alrratly deposed to. Ile kid heard him say, "be
Peore.ible and quiet at church ;" hot be has! not beard
him say, " when there, let every wan remain near his
%ran banner." To his knowledge, he had not heard
examiner desire them " to rouse peaceably anal orderly
haute." Dill not bear any thing said hr Bamford about
retitreitig guiltily wick their funnel?, to which 311
ttragglers a ere to repair on leaving 31ancheater."—
Many t housands followed those olio !Hardie,' from Mid.
.eton mad lissehdale, beside% home who mart-heti.—
1 Isere were nutty before and behind. sts well as on earls
•-ole of lls.• prove,,pion. lie observed among them a
rumher of women 81N1 children. lie knew the exami-
ner's wile by sight ; slid not observe her aretonpanring
the procession. nor did hr see exa eee i e ter's child. 'l here
Were plenty of people on the ex; 111 l iner's rioitt and on his
tett. list there were mow in form but thote be (Bamford)
had led up. Ile distinguished the ataeniaer as hie
reader, from the stragglers, Iseratise he was in front of
'mew that were in form. The place where the torn j
were as:um:del at Middleton %Mt' called Barrow-tiehl.—
ite had seen in Middleton processions of inch societies
Oratore-man and Obi-fellows. They walked !tome-
r:lnes tan, and sometimes four wittimst, with music.—
'they hail gags tots. with inseriptions. Ile was at Alid-
dieton at the proclamation of lieorge Ile saw a
flag there a ills an inseeiption n.e it ; that was carried by
the society .404 d-fellows. bid not remark the insetip-
tion un the flag. The people marched off the orottitti
on the 16th of Angtod. Titer used to leans him (wit-
oral) to wall: so when hr wa% a soldier, and °lry called
it starching. Did not hear him (Bamford) ..tv any
thing'nhen he gate the leaves of laurel. Knew nothing
of the usages of Ereentatoms„ Orange-nien. anal t
fellows, hot he !perceived that they huh some ways of dis-
tingaishing theitsseives. lie did sot know for what the
laurel was given.
erourotmansined by Mr. lieXT.—Witness had been a
soldier twenty-five years ago is the 104t11 regiment.
Was a non-commissiaord officer while lee remained in
tt•e service.— .Asked in what way he had left the service:
lee appealed to Judie to know if he were obliged to
answer the question. II hen told that be must, he said,
ttotugh he had been in the habit of a soldier for two or
tl.ree veers, he never took an tomtit in his life belonging
to a soldier. lie oil never sworn never took' the
oatis of allegi:llWP so %hal not feel himself !tomtit to re-
etain in the regiment any long.o then II I. thought
proper : and SO. am lieu he had seen as much as Ire wished
tof the service. he then hill them good 'waning. Consi.
slerei himself to be %Oh the regiment, but not as a sob
O:er, though he Sore the clothing.
Q. 'in when you had eh of it, you took French
leave of the regiment ?—When I had had enough of it I
s ale the best of me
Q. And have not some people been ill-natured enotigh
10 rail you a deserter ?--1 ou may if ran choose.
Q. But were tam not told, that hating violated your
silk Let slleginnev, VOL I'olll,l not be a e I witness in a
Court of Justice ?--.Nolowly Pt et' told Mesa) Witness was
• iiest admitted as what was railed a mushroom serjeant.
fie had received act merit a man for enlisting on the re-
cruiting service; he received regular pay after he got
into Ireland; hr believed that lie had been in Ireland;
i.e was there; never saw any Orange (lathe march in
Ireland ; had seen the tomage Chiba march at Middle-
too in the sante war as the people hail marched on the
16th of August. The I/range (lobs had not, to his
knowledge, marchett with such switches as the people
carried on the 16th of Antrnst ; never saw them carry-
:" a shillelagh ; bad %rim thetn with wands and longer
stay es; was not alarmed at them, nor at his ( M r. Hand's)
.1: on the pith of August ; he did not feel alarmed
c odd out tell what others felt, but saw no depredation
committed, or insult offered; Smeillee-cottage was out
the high road from Middleton to Manchester; they
starched three mile* direct towards Stnetiley-eottage,
era then turned of the roach a quarter of a mile; he
simald not have said any thing about Smedley-eoltage
it it had not been mentioned to him; went with them
atatat a mile ; the music kept playing: did not returns-
Ler the tunes.
Q. Do you mean to swear that you eho not remember
that "hod save the king" was amongst them ?-1/o you
malt sae to begin lying ? I puppets, 1 am ramEred here to
ted the truth.
Q. I ask you, do ton not recollect that u Hod save
the King" was played —No. I don't recollect it, be-
cause it is against your principles to play it.
Q. Did you hear them play the /togas.** .4/arch ?—lf
I did, it was yours, I believe.
Q. Did you hear them play the Deserter(—lf I did 1
sl siold hare taken it to myself. Witness had heard Barn-
ford advise the people to go off peaceably, and to re-
m lilt SO; but bad not heard him advise them to return
so. He was not a 'pedal constable. All that he knew
he had karat frora his eyesioht. lie hail said nothing
to the rostrat/ of liamfoiti's.being a good and peaceable
leader. He did not know whether the switches that the
marching men carried were large enough to flog an in-
famous cante out- of Court.
Examined by Mr. Scasti.cro.—(fad been in the 10th
- Regiment ; had lived in the neighboorbontl of Man-
chester nearly 20 years; he was a weaver, and had looms
of his own.
John Eaton, remitted by Mr. LITTLIDALS.—Was a
Flambee and glazier at Middleton. He described the
advance of the bliddlet-un people, on the morning of the
16th of August, with Bamford in front of them, as it had
keen &Maher' before; one of the flags bad the imerip-
lion " Liberty and Strength.—
, Cress-examined by Mr. Bamford.—Recollerted two
flags, one was, greed, the other blue ; saw no long poles
in the procession, but those that sustained the flags and
cap of liberty. Was not sure that lie knew Mrs. Bam-
ford. In the Rochdale concern, a good many women
were seen, but he did not recollect this of the Middleton
body. The women seemed to share in the spirit of the
mon who formed the processioa. Did not observe any
frOtenirfg looks, they seemed more upon joy, and on
each other_ . Witness felt no alarm.

nll
Isis
Oldham. Saw due 4ivislon of Helmets pass
IsisE . They came from %.I,llrwurth, ill Yorkshire,
tie . miles fr Olilli on. Afsi r they hail pass.td, he
wag sent by. the Magistratos to count the !lambent alt.
whole that passed. There were divisions from live—
Knyton. ()What'', Saddleworth' Crompton, and (hatter-
ton. There were flags at the head of every one of these
division*. 'fiery marched in sections; thin: was a cum-
I wander to each dis ision. Their askance was irregular,
I as souse of the sections hail C.ar is-breast ; others hail
tilht. or adoten a-breast. Hach division was di-
' willed into sections, anal •• comissansier appeared on the
left flank of every section. They by 1 alongle in front
of all the divisions. Thee marelsed to a place of reside:-
eons, and then advanced 1i1t... soldiers. He counted 854
that marched in rank. Many hundreds went beside.
Those who went beside frequently fell in. The word
halt" was given, awl they all hattedat once. The
cause of their halting, he mirrored, teas some little ilia-
, order which had occurred. As moon as the word " halt"
I was given, the commander, at the left of each arctic"
i called out "eyes left," and then they very soon got into
order, and the word " march" was given. Saw Doctor
Healey with them. lie lives at lwes. The slhwtor led
theMaddleworthur Lees division.

[Hire Mr. Hunt Mosel-Teti to the Judge, that a note
had been sent ont of Court by an attorney, us be sup-
posed, to a witne,sa. He reline:QM that the a:army
nikkt be strurn to the contents of the note.]
the Judge insturtliately ordered the torte to be brought
bark.

The note was 'goon returned, when it was fonn.l to be
of no importance, as it morel}• desired that a ropy of his
depositi micht be riven to one ~1 the witnesses, whirls
witness. Mr. Scgrlett said, it „as not his intentioa to
skantine.

The examination resumed.—Witness said, the SO
mentioned, inrlnileol all that witness saw marching' in
order. The crowd continued to increase whit• they
were within his view. which was about hall' an honr.
The persons who formed the procession nuirioacil in a
middling way, not so will as s,onte that he had seen.

Cross-examined by 111rib:sr.—Witness is a constable
at Oldham ; w employed by the Magistrates to email'
the reformers. iii. .11.1 not stint up his shop. Willie he
was gone to count the marehinr, parties. Isis father at-
tended to the shop. Saw notis:ng to alarm I ; did
not notice the inscriptions on OW Illus. Air.l !tippet'.
stall went with hint, nod wrote down what he (witness)
observed. Mr. Chin.-:Wall Was not at 1 ork now. Wit-
ness considered Isiussel forret to r . 31r. Chippets•
shall Is a gentlens in in Witham. Witness dot not know
that he was a sper:4l constable. 1)1.1 not see any
drunkenness or Eating, or any person threatened or ill
used. Witaess was employed. by the 3lagistrates. Mr.
is not au attorney. There was nothing on
the colours to aianes oituess. The Islavk dug he hail
seen, passed his own house. Ile did not like the look
of it, but he took tin notice of it. That sous not his
business, tbourh lie was a sp..cial constable. lie saw
something shoot " Saddieworro ami Moiety Cajun" on
the flag. 'fis.it told I where the party came from.
Saw something like two hands elasi.ing each other on it,
with the word " Love" over them. Dial not see a
bloody dagger on it. Did not recollect the scales of
justice on it. Did not know ant !infielder reason why
Mr. Chippen.lall did not ratite to York. Both names
were signed to the taper, which he oast Mr.Chippendall
had sent to the soliritor for the prosecution. I /id not
know any reason tor Mr. Chippeivtall's absence. Mr.
Chippemiall ass a gentleman of xery good character.
Had heard that he was sishrenaed to count.. but did not
know why he was not here. Had never sera a cap tit
liberty. He had looked at the emblem over lite C'otuttt-
Ilall
In York, but slid net speak of a cap of liberty h
stone, butt of such as hr Supported to be earned in a pro-
cession, when he said that be had never seen one. Ito
had never men one carried before iho people..
Jolla Ashwordi, examined by Mr. Lirrs.ao.tut.—
Was an engineer working at a. factory in Oidloon last
August. Ile Parr several ili%isions of persons who were
proceeding to 31anchester. They formed themselves
into a busty, aril took the new road to Manchester.
There Wight lie about three thousand marching is a
body. Saw a black Sae and a rap of liberty. tit was
asked by souse of them to go with them, but he said
" they were a week too soon for him, as lie should net
go to 31ancliester till Saturday." When he refused to
go. souse of them called out tlivt they wools' make a
Moscow of Manchester betore they rause back. This was
about eight o'clock.
Crosteexamined by Mr. 1111.xv.—Was DO relation to
ear mats of the *lute name that was killed on the 16th.
Witness's wife and children were at 31ancliester, but be
was not so alarmed at the 3loscoir story as to go there
to look after them. He could not go to Manchester.
He felt alarm at what lie had heard, and said, " the
words were terrible" at the time. Ile slid not hire any
hotly 1.• rive his wife notice of schat he hail heard, that
she might park up and be off. lie was told by one or
two peewit.. that " they would snake a Miscast of
Manchester." lie meant by one or two, suture than
one. • He never sent to let his wife know any thing
about it. Wise was he to send by ? lie had seen caps of
liberty at Middleton, lout hail not noticed the cap of
liberty over York Castle. He was not a man that
bothered Isis brad about caps of liberty, or any thing of
that kind.
By Mr. lialtanw.—Witrieas would have had no oh-
jection to put up the hustings for the 31am-heater Meet- '
hag. had fie hero a master workman in that line; but
that was carpenter's work. Ile nits an engineer, mod ,
only worked in iron.
William Slandering, examined by Mr. Scaniere.—
Kept a public-house at Paleswurtls. He saw some of the
bodies on their march to 31auchester on the Itith of
Augnst; lie saw Healey wills them, who said " Victory,
nor boys." Healev went into witness's house, took a
glass of gin, sail drunk success to the prof-ceding, of the !
day." He said he had known that house for some time,
and hoped the people belonging to it were true to the
cense.
liv .Ir. hoer.—Witness had now left the publics
house; was settling Isis accounts, and living %sill) his
brother. Witness was much alatmed out the 16th of
August. but flit' not move his property on that day. !lie I
goods had shire been sold in Isis name ; they were re•
moved from Isis house for convenience of sale: his name
had not appealed in the hills of the sale. He did
not believe that if his name hail been to them that any
of his Creditors would have prevented the sale. Witness
had been in a Court of Justice before. Ile had never
Oxen tried, but there had been a rharre against him for
breaking windows when he was fuddled. He was rather
nervons; he had been afflicted with an unfortunate ma-
lade that insole it necessary to routine him in the Lana- i
tic Asylum; hut he had not been so within the list two
years. He was a special constable, but never received
any thing from the police in his life, but two pounds to
bnng him from Manchester to fork.
Jeremiah Fielding, examined by Mr. Lir-rut:9am—
Was Wmerehant of 31auchester. He was between Mae-
cheeter and Cheetham-hill, on the road to Bury, on the
morning of the 16th. Saw about 2,0110 persons march-
ing in regular order four or live a-breast, with music and
Sags. towards Manchester.
sr bit. Hrut.—Witness did not see them insult or •
use any • one 111. No women and children were with
than when he saw the,.
James Heath. emponseri by Mr. SCAIRI.EII.—ResiIkII
Cheethautshill. 'He saw a party proceeding to Nano
wher en the 16th of Aninst, which he described oar.

I.,•;nd et • e
terms with each other. Witness felt ne alarm.
Ws —was a person of some property, but had not thought
it catenary. to fasten his doors or Windows. He bad
sun processions of Orangemen and Freemasons, carry-
1a staves, &c. W.is rather to the Reformers ;
cpeld not.expett that they wo•rirre in any way partial
to /int.
it kr. Hwer,—Witoass was in a espeetsibia lina.of
. • ups.
HThedhadnos feemalrchatdrminnoarn seeorathat iltqr
Ireclietaies.wpro
. • qiiirsgs_ and banners... They bad swear %h.
Sa- , -They had a committee and" stares of 'or-
r. Mititooßtlatdaorairlitoyef urns- Ralph ilet4b.ti
. 4iiiiipls Timis, iiandsied by Mr. SCAILITT.—Wits a ,