The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-05-02 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

A Petition for Parliainewary Reform was received funs
?reston.
l'he Report of she Southwark Bridge Bill was received.
The Irish Royal Litfy and Shannon Canal Bill was read a
hi. d
A Pr-Ilion from a Person confined in Wietown Tolbooth,
Iresenied u 3 Sir SA hi U El. ROM ILLY. was received.
Tim hiesoo-boat Bill was o►dered to ne committed on Tuesday.

CON VEY AN CE W US.
Mr. C. WYNN adverted to the neglect of certain Sheriffs
of Cuuntie., in not having made the Returns respecting the
Conveyance of Writs, according to the Order of the House
Ile specified the neglect f the Sheriffs of Oxfordshir,•, Buck-
inghai shire, Surrey, Yorkshire, and Glamorgaushire ; and
gave notice. that if she Returns were not made in time, he
should, on that day se'nnight, move to call the Sheriffs who had
been neglectf. I or disobedient, to the Bar of the House.
A Peti into from Christchurch parish, presented by Alderman
WOOD, against the Parish Vestry Hill, was received.
Aldermau WOOD moved that the Cripplegate Petition,be
printed.
General THORNTON hoped the Poor's Bill, as it stood,
would not pass into a law. He had received many letters from
the country. stating the distress it would occasion by she clause
respecting owners and occupiers. particularly in some sea-purl
towns, and by IS WOWS who derived their income from houses.
'the Petition was ordered to be printed.
On she motion of bold A. HAM it.ToN, the accounts of
Commissaries appointed by the Court of Session were ordered to
be printed.
CITY ACCOUNTS.
Mr. HOLME SU NI N ER complained that the Orders of the
House fur the production of certain Accounts of she City of
London bad not been complied w ith, though ordered in March
last.
Sir W. CURTIS made some explanation as to time being ne-
cessary.
Mr. HOLME SU M N ER declared himself dissatisfied with 'he
answer. lie wished to know whether, according to the forms
of the City, on receiving the Orders of that Hoist.. they direct-
; ed the proper officers to carry them into exeenti,in immediately.
or whether they appointed a Committee of the Common Council
to consider on the Orders of the House. He had been told that
an instruetion had been given to their Committee to produce the
Acceents ordered at the latest possible period.
Sir W I ILIA NI CURTIS knew nothing of such instructions.
and, at all events, he did not feel himself bound to answer such
statements.
Alderman WOOD said, that the suspicions thrown on the
Corporation were groundless, lie was sure no such orders had
been given to suspend the returns. As to calling for the City's
Tole Deeds that was n matter that required some time, and a
Committee was thought proper to examine into precedents tits
the subject, if any were to be found. The Hon. Member had,
however, dispensed with that motion. The Worthy Alderman
believed that the Accounts were in a state of preparation. He
bad seen the Town Clerk sit Guildhall, who said the Committee
were sitting; he believed the desire so he accurate' required
more time. 'I he Ordef of the House Was communicated to the
proper officers iu the regular course.
Mr. HOLM; SUMNER was still not satisfied with the
answers he received ; hat. to put an end to all difficulties, he
should feel it his duty to move that the Accounts be presented
forthwith.
Sir J SHAW made a few observations.
Serjeant ONSLOW thought the making op of' returns reed
not take sip much lime.
Sir J. Sii A W said, that if the account- desired had been only
those which were produced every year, they might have been
brought up almost directly.
Mr. H. SUMNER still could not Fee reason for delay. There
were also accounts respecting the New Prison wanted. The
City mint neglect its duty if it were not ready to show the
faithfulness of its disbursements.
Sir J. SHAW believed some of these papers were already on
the table.
It was agreed that the accounts be ordered to be presented
forthwith.
The West Indies and South America Importation Bill was
read a first time; second time on Monday.
SPIRITS' INTERCOURSE.

On the Report of the Spirits' Intercourse Rill,
Sir GEORGE CLERK made several remarks on the compa-
rative drawback• of Scots and Irish l/istilleries. and pressed
the necessity of equalizing them, at:d moved a clause to that
elect.
Mr. LUSH INGTON was of op;nion, that the motion of the
Hon. Member had not hero made at the appropriate time. It
was difficult to introdece a clause regarding the Scotch Inter-
course into a Bill, the professed object of which was to regitla e
the Irish Intercourse. Ile understood that several Scotch Ale.-
hers bad intended to move for a Committee to consider the
grievance of the distillers of that counts y. which he conceived
would, from the present stage of this Bill, be best adapted to
forward their object.

The SPEAKER thought ft *Weiss, that it was ~teary to
the usual form to lairoduce loth scions-, btu it was oat impos-
sible. He, however, thought it adsisat.le I relinquish Mead-
alien of it, as the in,roductisio of It wank, supersede the ek-
es:Mon of the Committee. He wished to Meets... that the state
of private hubioew was each, that .1 great porn. n of time
would he Ina, if public business din lilt commence at helf-past
Ann o'clock Re. therefore, dearest. that Si should he onder-
geed, that to fume discussions regarding public stutters, amid
commence at that hoer.
A delimiters chweereation thee mak OW bt which Mr.
Barry. Mr. J. P, Ohre, the Chowlow of the Eschew', Mr
(i. Clerkiand Mr. Pettey. took pet, after ehlth the Amend-
ment um withdrawn, and the Bill ordermi to be read the third
time, en Mooday arm.
Mr. IaTLETO \ stated, that as he sad a Right. Yea. Gem.
tleinan its his place, be was desirous of, looming, .whedlibr cre-
dit ought to be attached to the report %which was enflamed ie
the Midland C oent irs and wet pasibictise of cdaddetishiedlarthe
that is was his intention. after hatpi• ~ repealed theGoast.Uothe
on Coal, to ads a sae , II it at the pie !mod.
The CH A S CELIA)R of the. lICCHEQUE it declfiredriblii
he had an mirk kiteatioo, es a matter minorities's* I middy
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Bank.notes in circulation. ' •-; At
Mr. DUGDA LE expressed hit regret; Hest such a
great quantity of forgeries should be in Cii4ulatioe,
and was of opinion, that the Petition from Hireling.
ham deserved serious consideration.
Mr. GRENFELL stated, that in the absence of
the Hon. Member for Arundel, he ti °old imbrue*
the opportunity of mentioning, that it was his inten.
lion, in the course of nest week, to propose the
matter for the consideration of the Hoene.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, that half the Bank
of England notes in circulation, in the northern
counties, were forged, so that persons hesitated to
accept them.
Mr. THOMPSON was desirous of adding his tes-
timony to that of the Honourable Baronet. lie had
consulted a respectable banker, to whose bank not
more then thirty forgeries were presented during the
course of a year, while, in 1817, the amount of
forgeries presented at the Bank of England was ac.
knowledged to be 27,0001.; which was but nominal,
for it was certain that the amount weeded several
hundred thousand pounds. Ile thought that, if the
Bank of England would alter the form of their notes,
they might by degrees withdraw their old notes, and
that forgeries would then prove less frequent,
General 'IIIORNTON said, that he had two years
since called the attention of the House to the matter,
and that the Petition from Birmingham deserved great
attention, for the inhabitants of that large town were
good judges of the matter.
Sir J. MACINTOSH declared, that if the motion
of his Honourable Friend should this night be nega-
.;...l; ti ssss hi. iutoution to call the attention of the
House to the subject, by speedily proposing a motion
relating to the Bank.
General GaiCOIGNE observed, that the notes
which were forged were those of great value, out
being of small amount, were generally io the hands
of the lower classes. Of the Bank of England notes
in circulation in Lancashire, many were so mutilated
and so altered in appearance that it was difficult to
distinguish them. Some means ought therefore to be
adopted, which would afford a facility of exchanging
them.
After some observations by Mr. LAMB, the Pe-
tition was read, ordered to lie on the table, and to
be printed.
Mr. PATTEN BOLD presented a Petition from
the Dry-salters of Manchester, praying for au equali.
Winn of the Duties on Calicoes.
Referred to the Committee on the Petitions of Ca.
lico.printers.
LOAN BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order the Day, for the third reading of
the Loan Bill.
Mr. GitENFELL said, he did not mean to offer
any thing on the present occasion, which would pro-
voke a debate, and he was the less inclined to do so,
as he would hatpin opportunity of going into a very
minute detail on the subject of the profits of the
Bank in his motion, which stood for Tuesday neat.
On a former evening, he objected to the large al-
; lowance which the Bill gave to the Bank, for the
management of the Loan. This allowance consisted
of 8001. per million on three millions of cash, and
I 4001. per million on the twenty-seven millions of
Exchequer Bills. On the former he should offer no
observations at present, but to the latter he should
most decidedly object. He thought it was not usual
to grant such an allowance on Loans, he should
therefore move that that clause of the Bill be omit-
ted. The sum which the Bank woold gain upon
these Exchequer Bills would not be less than 10,8001.
which he thought was quite ezorhitant, considering
the nature of their trouble. The Hon. Member con.
eluded be moving, that the clause granting an allow.
ance of 4001. per million on the twenty-seven mil-
lions of Exchequer Bills, should he omitted.
) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
'observed, that the Hon. Member bad stated his ob.
jections very frankly end very shortly, end he should
act in the same way in his reply. He conceived that
the Hon. Member was mistaken in saying that the
giving 4001. per million on Exchequer Bills was a
new practice. It was the practice on other occasions,
and be thought the allowance on Exchequer Bills,
of only half what was given on Cash Loans, very
proper.
The motion of Mr. Grenfell was then put and ne-
glitived, after which the Bill was read • third time
and passed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
then moved, that the House, on its rising, do adjourn
to Monday.—Carried..,
CONTINUANCE OF THE BANK RF.STRICTION.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day for the second reading
of the Bank Restriction Continuance Bill. lie

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