The Statesman.
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r.dented. So massy instances, on the contrary, mich
be silducod, of subjects of this count rs kari•tcfntereil
tato the service of betligerents, win§ w howl we were.
et that timeat peace, that it was onbecersaf v to quo',
them. To mention only one—the case of the great
Marlbortregb : he began his mirror under one of the
most celebrated Capiaios of his aye, I. Mariorhal
Tommie, mod with a commission from Louis XI V.:
be served against • Power with whom MP were at
peace, yet no remorotrarare eu ever mule by it upon
that amens. He übjected to the Bill in the third
place, becalm he thought it any thing rather than
whit it professed to be—a neutral measure. It api-
peord to be, order the mask of neutrality, a* act of
hostility to the colonies, and of favour to Spahr.—
The Hon. Member proceeded to show, that 'niter
present circenistances there most he some persons to
whom the habits of peace were not congenial; and
others, dissatisfied, from more goestionable asotiCall.
with their country, who were devoted to disturbance
and agitation; he could not see, therefore, why, by
the present me , they should pen up the receipt
humours of one of the,e parties, or close up the field
of heroic enterprise in the other—a Sold rif war in
the most glorious of all causes. The Hen. Member
concledod lo'ss)ing, that considering that limey was
nothing to justify it in theta* of natiorie, in the law
of justice, or in the principles of political ',Hided,
sod considering alto that it was directly adverse t•
the socient policy of the country, be should give his
vote against it.
Mr. SLIEMIERD supported the measure.
Mr. G. V. VERNON opposed the lull at se*.
length. The supporters of this 0114111111fe appeared 10
have assumed that, in proportion to the warm and
active feeling opposed to it, was the paucity and in.
efficacy of argument.-. 411 assumption intremely il-
logical. In this me, is in many others, the will-
kuown 'oasis hold good-
- Nimmons shied mars. ailed opiewile disk."

TM 11... Member obeerved, that he was relectant to
detain the Hoese long slier that wog eloquent, most
urgearentatise, and most impressive appeal which h..,1
been made to them on a recent neeseinti, by so Hon.
and Loomed GeoOrman (Sir Junes Macintosh). of
whose speech, he might say with the poet, that it was
*. A. rapid, no rterp. and no brilthua a thle.
As ever bore frredura aloft ue it. wave."
For all meessary 141 r poses, he conceived that the
Common Law was sufficient ; and he really could
not sea why they should have recourse to certain en-
prreededted, nemoostitutional, and uncalled ter pro-
via..., which were contained in that Bill. One of
them ignited the lowest officers of tee State, the
Cestom4toese *Seers, with a discretionary power of
arresting, pessons, not merely before commission of
*few*, bet on a bare presumption. Althoegh a
friend to legitimate Government, he thought it
would be tot hi own interest to correct abases when
they became gri and intolerable to the aebject.
A few useful sod memorable eramples had taught a
military lesson both le Prisms and to People: to the
former, that there mold be no assurance of impunity
fee misrule; to the latter, that while they were not
bees to be slaves by soy mbappy totality, they ought
to be cautious hew they imminted or overturned m-
isting institutirms.
Mr. Alderman WA ITHMAN assured the Home,
that it was not his intentless to trespass on its at.
'Wien for more than a very few minutes. There
were Petitions from the Merchants of London lying
on the table, to which he did not think sufficient con-
sideration had been paid. The allegations contained
in the Petitions upon this subject had net been con.
treurted or denied. On other occasions it was usual
to consult the feelings and opinions of commercial
wee. In feet, Ministers bad never contemplated any
greet job, wittiest making an appeal to is. Myr.
atolls sod Citizens of Lnodon.—(A laugh )—lfe
recollected a great Meeting in %lerchsnt railer.%
ball, followed by soother in Grotiers'.6ll—(A
lough)—on the subject of the Bank Restriction
When the war Woke not in Spoilt, it was thought
necessary to have • dinner, in order to rouse a spiri,
favourable to its support. He br-lievrd the wee et
the tickets was not less than four divines' each
laugh )—One of the toasts which were drank up
that ai cation was, " Our have associates in liberti
and arms," alluding to the Spanish People. It
was set jest thee to work upon the feelings of the
Politic at one moment, end to despise them a,
smoker. lie trusted that, however attached • ma-
jority of the llouse might be to the Alipister4,
world net, under the circumstances of ear present
situation, sanction a measure se injetious and so on-
necessary.

Or. PIIILLIMORE observed, that he took a
deep interest in the transactions which were now de-
veloping themselves on the ether .ide of the Atlantic,
and in the fate of the distant provinces of an unwieldy
empire, whose galtiug yoke they were 'hiking olf.
sod rising into the rank end character of independent
States. Bet the nay question which the Hove had
to coosider, yes the relative situation of Crest Br'.
tale, with refereece to the contending parties. This
vilest be determined by the compact and the decls re.
Cods under which we stood pledvd is the face of
Eerope.—They bad to consider what it we'
emissary for them to do—to maintaie invinlate the
faith sod honour of the nation. He would sot
htiguethe Hoeseby prolonging that discuss:on ; suffice
it to say, that the antral was bound not to intederein
!steer of either belligerent. What would amount to
that anti.neetral interposition, was a subject on
which considerable variety of opinion had been enter.
bleed. Another point, incidentally touched epos,
related to the allowing troop, to he levied in the ter-
ritories of a neutral State. This was a subject which
bad been much litigated amongst the greatest writers
oti public law, bet it seemed finally agreed, that the
**smite must depend •poo the laws of each parti.
miler State; sod Byukershoek bad himself stated,
that in Holland it was punishable with death.—
The same great jurist bad likewise distinguished, in
describing the duties of neutraliti, between a State
that was simplociter milieus, and a State that was
Otitis confederalue. This observation brought him
back to the question—•bether any Treaty was in
existence beta u Spoils sod this country. He had
bees met, indeed, on the threshold of this argument
by an aaaaa lion, that although there was • Treaty, it
Meet bind* open Crest Britain. The propositions
of his lion. aid Learner, (FiendMariororh), I
ybaseelocpatece had been so dieliopished oo the sub. '

ject were clear and indisputable; bet t►y did notap-
proach the facts of the present case. Tire miry first ar-
ticle la the Treaty showed that t►e allitioro-was one
of strict amity ; and the question oat, therefore, be.
toren • solemn •treaty on rte one hand, toil the
11111111 faille's of the commercial inierevi r f thiv
country on the other.—(fleor, hcar!)-- In another
article, ',nadir, as it weir, co finnan, for the purpose
of bringing hack Ike sabjects of Spain to their elle.
Risme, it was provided that ntilish sabjicts should
be restraiNed (torn furnishing t►em with arms or nat.
like ►tores. Would it not be a seers quibble, to say
that men were riot included within the terms of this
description?—(lncessant cries of Question )—The
lion. Member con,iiiiied speaking for some minutes
longer, hut, from the meshing and other noises
which prevailed, lie was totally inaudible.

Air. WILLIAMS expressed bis humble bat Arm
conviction, that if this Hill passed luto a law, it
would be not I.ally prejaditial to oar commercial in.
west', but prejediciel to the National boomer which
it wronged to splaold.—(Chetre.)
Mr. W. P. 1. LONG WELLESLEY sepported
the Hill.

Mr. BARNETT avid, that the Hon. sad Learned
Gent. oho bud introduced this Bill, sireck dumb by
the oljecsinns urged spinal it, lied retired to a neigh.
boating reentry, sod left the Bill to backhanded by
a few Members of that Wawa alto could jestify it
upon no principle of reascn, policy, justice, or ba.
enanity.
'llk Bows divided upon the geostles that lbe Bill
be now read a thir4
time—
Arrs, Rol N aft. 1118/ I Majority, C.
_

The 13111 was accordingly read a third time.
On ear estrum into the gallery we friend Mr.
DENMAN on his legs moving, en the question that I
the Bill de pass, as amendmeat to the Bill, the object !
of which •as to enable Cestem•konse Ulcers to I
search, and to detain, all ships which might be in any
of his Majesty's pone.
&Ir. GEORGE LAMB mid, he did not rise to
oppose the amendment, bet he wished to remark
upon the curious manlier in which this Bill was
worded. The Learned lawyer who bad framed the
measure, whoever he might be, seemed to have had
his head completely filled with military phrases, and
the individual who now fills the civic chair was raised
to the high and distinguished reek of " chief eivil
commander." To the Lord Mayor it seemed appli-
cation was to be made to pet the provisions of this
Bill into emotion. He should really advise lion.
Gentle Men not to limit it to the Mayor alone of any
town, but to all the subordinate Aileen, even to
the village schoolmaster, who would be found to be
upon Nis, as upon all other occasions, a most
mire and usual personage—nay, the intone
and their companions might be applied to is
rases of great emergency.—(A largh.)--The Gel.
laud Officer behind him (Sir Robert Wilson)
had prophesied the influence this seders mould
have in foreign countries : he would prophesy
it, influence nearer home; sod he should have thought
' his Majesty's legal advisers, after the lessees they
bed already received—after the repeated pule they
had Nee d the wisdom and the secluded spirit of a
British Jury, would have been wise 'laugh not to
press sea a amide as this. The aorta of Go.
eernmeot bad already Wow 'defeated by the firmness
and independent spirit of a few individuals at home.
—(/!earl)—" Mei God, it yet remains to be
Nes ',basher a British Jury will assist the Govern-
sent its enforcing such a raw as was new attempted
N be fereed upon the People"—(Rear!)
Lord CASTLEREAGH felt confident that eta.
thing would induce a British Jury to forget their
sacred obligation.—( Hear !)
The gusting' was then put upon the amendment,
Ind it was nifitivod. The Bill was thed passed.
alt. PHILLIPS moved for a Copy of the Eli-
•!epre tars Wu,* the last Committee on the Cotton
VattariPs.

After a few ob.mations frees Mr. PEEL and Mr.
WM. SMITH. the motion was agreed to.
Mr. KROUCIIAM pet a question to the Noble
Loud oppmte, as to the arrastgeseents ovule for the
lobate to.a.otroo, ow the third reeding of the Cho-
titahl• Founttoilets Dill. l e eaderstood that there
was a moti, a of ea flow.fisramm ((Sir James Mont.
g °spry) respective; the Red Ritter Settlement, which
would 'trite same discussion. _

Mr. BENNETT said, that the Res. &resit we.
will;rg to pesipmse Met w..tlea emit Tlestsday.
Lord CASTLEREAGII observed (use believe),
that all ether impasses., would be mooted, In order
that there sight be a fell discussinn of tta Bill.

EXCISE DU I'ILS BILL.
Oa the Order a the Bey fee teceiriag the Report
otitis Reeler Defies Bill, _ _

Mr. WESTERN objected in the discussion of this
important oeasure at this lite hoar of the night. He
should feel ii Lis duty to take the sense of the lines,
upon the amendment, that this report be brought up
to-morrow.

Mr. SCARLETT supported the amendment. • Hp
thought that no is.ar tales wire now necessary, and
should oppose the Bill in every stage.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re-
presented that *beau Hills had undergone • considera-
ble discesaion already. The only question now was
whether the Report 0(.011 he brought up, and the
House should rrroilert that an amendment might be
proposed in almost Peery stage.
Mr. CALVERT recommended postponement of
the kiiscussinn until 10-morrow.
Mr. W. SMITH said, that he bad received in.
rictus commaeicatious from bit constituents against
the Rill.
Lord MILTON also protean) twine the system
of discussing such Important Bills at lin Isle en boor.
After an esplanstion from the CHANCELLOR
of the EXCHEQUER, a diatoms* took place upon
the amessalment of Mr. Western. The 'mothers
were
Jtve,s. 68 Noes Mil Majority. 114.
_ _ .

Tka t Wag then brought up.
Mr.IV.SAI urn thought thp arrangements wade by
the Hight Hon. Gentleman, with reeved in the duty
on British Spiri,s, were unfair to a certain class of
indiritlsials, who would suffer tenthly in cone?.
quest,. H. knew one individual who "mold woolly
loss 10,0001. by it. H. wished to know when it wss
intended to reed thl• li I a third time?
Mc. CALVERT asked whether it ass intended to
zilew the foil amount of drawback on boor : if it'

♦ere so llllleded, Ile {tight Hes. Geolloisq. bed
wade a =Wale la Us eelalWes,lt• WWI 17i. lid
lashed of ids.l4l.

The CHANCELLORat tIsviLICORQUIMI ..id.
thr •s hr as lie sow, Si.. hid side s fele ealrelaiiee.

M ow e.
r. W. SMITH tn end to the earopleasty
the Mahe hod nutitiet t• do but I.
sotto(' to li.o prinriple Of Intltion. Xgoin 'lobate°
to 4111 *hat day the Bill would be reed a thiod
time

CIIANCELLOR of the EXCIIMICI:11. re.
plied. thst he ebueld name Wednesday tot the third
'eating.
A 1,.,. few words from Mr. C. CALVERT,
A MEMBER. when name we etst,!•l ant team
olammeed, Het on the third reetlint., he mhotild °prise
the oddities's' date no tea (we Iseliev.) altogether.

. .
Mr. C. CALVERT then mooed aq an amen,lneviet
that the drawback go porter imported he Os. 4.41.,
ia.'•ad of 164. 11., au at primed in the Bit,.
The CIIANCELLOR of lb. EXCIIEQUER
observed, that he would enquire whether the calculi.
Howe on which that sum had bees aimed sere cor-
rect.

The amendment was then pet and negatived.
On the motion that the Bill be engrossed,
Mt. WESTERN again protered against that hoer
(one o'clock), be, therefore, felt himself boned to
take the tense of the Hesse upon It.
Mr. W. SMITH was aware that In tleWpreemdiftol
of the Bill he could oat present *Peddle* whist It,
bet he felt It his del to express the opinions which
his Constituents had give• upon the Tex upon Malt.
Thl farmers and la•d•owoers of Norfolk and Nor-
wich, whose Petition he held in his hand, bail de.
Cared what he was convinced of, that the pressure
of
that duty would be most severe upon them; that
instead of malt (as was asserted in the Hasse) hiving
cost only 635. the quarter, it had stood the farmer ie
more thee that saw, without even the duty or the
trouble and cost of making ; so that at present, and
without this Bill, they were at 431. less upon it.
Mr. SCARLETT wished that the Chancellor of
the Eacheqeer woeld consent to postpone the third
reading till Thursday.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that there was • greet deal of business stood
for that day. _ _ .

The goeslion was thew pat end carried, and the
third reading fixed for Wearied'''.
On the motion of Mr. PEEL, the Bank Ad.
rances' Regulation Bill was read a wood time, and
ordered to be committed to.morrow.