The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-12-02 00:00:00

Mr. doer observed, that nano able men could he
found to conduct the affairs of the country. It would
to impossible to find any men who could rondnrt
them worse than the present Ministers. The Worthy
Alderman talked of his loyalty and affection for his
Majesty. Ile (Mr. Jupp) hoped that they all che-
rished the feelings of eunstitici mei loyalty. The
King was nut answerable fur the arts of his Ministers ;
his Majesty could never ju•tify them. It was their
duty to go op to the Throne, and in an hnnible but a
firm manner, to tell the truth to the Sovereign—to
tell him that his Ministers were his oreatest enemies.'
When we looked at the state of things in France be-
fore the Revolution, it was inirossible not to see that
the French Ministers of that dot acted in a manner
similar to that of Ministersof thus. country. 'I be same
re•nit might follow if a timely reform did not take
place. He agreed with the Worthy Sheriff (Waith-
man), that either a reform or a revolution must
speedily take place. He wa: sorry to say, that the
nets of the present Ministers tended to facilitate the
env, and to flu every thing to prevent the other.—
(Hear, hear!)
Mr. PATTLN supported the Resolution, but be did
not conceive that a change of Ministers would be pro-
ductive of any rood, unless the new Administration
pledged themselves to Reform, for reform could only
save the country.
Mr. Baowita supported the Resolution, though he
differed with many gentlemen as to the doctrines they
had broached that day. lie thought that the country
was much indebted to the vigour of his Majesty'sl
Councils doting the war. But their late conduct was
trifling and indecent with respect to the dignity of the
Crown and the interests of the nation. It was impos-
sible either to defend or extenuate their conduct with
revert to the Queen. The Worthy Member here al-
hided in terms of strong censure to an article which
appeared in The New Times, under the signature of
,biers C., rid, is which it was attempted to be sheen
t. at' that eourt had endeavoured to extenuate the vices
of whoredom and adultery. He might appeal to any
person who heard him, whether such a conclusion
toild be (drawn from any thing which bad passed
wit li:n their walls.—(Cries of " no, no ?")---He would
tr.l the Editor of The Seto Times, that he held the
crime of adultery, whether in a Queen or in a King
•-•4llear, (tear, bear!)—to be a crying sin against the
I.,ws of Hod and of society.—(Hear, hear.)—lt was
the ditty of Ministers, after their defeat, to have made
every reparation in their power to the Queen. They
s%ould nit have allowed Parliament to separate with-
o it providing a suitable provision and a Royal Palace
fur her Majesty. The Worthy Gentleman, after a ea-
ri.oy of comments on the evidence given in support of
0:e Bill. observed, that it was impossible for any
I.t.mest Jury to pronounce a verdict of guilty upon it.
Mt. Caoox said, that Ministers had acted so as to
degrade the Throne sod irritate the people. It was
impossible that those melt who had advised his Majesty
to thank the persons who had shed the blood of his
s ..hjeets (wild be deserving of the confidence of the
(vanity. The splendid procession of last Wednesday
would be long remembered In this country. He had
only one thing to regret on that day. It was with re-
p et sad astonishment that he saw so high an authority
at the Canon of St. Paul's act the part he did on that
occasion. The Rey. Itentleman, dressed in his smustoi-
c is, was seen beating the desk with his treoebered
cap, as if he were in the commonest debating society.
--(Hear, Lear, hear!)
Here a Member ruse to order.

Mr CROOK said be was not to be interrupted. lie
would repeat, that the condnct of that Rev. tientleman
was most disorderly and most disgraceful—(Hear,
he :r')
Mr. S. Dixon diSered with the mower and seconder
of the Resolution. He thought, from the reports
which had gone abroad respecting her Majesty, that
M.nisters had no other coarse to follow than that which
they had adopted. if it were not fur the firmness of
the present Ministry this country would Ent be now in
existence. He was sorry to have heard the language
which had been uttered that day it was revolutionary's
i: expressed the wishes of the iudividual.—(Cries afi
" Order, order !")
The Loatt Marcia begged that Ilentlemen would
confine themselves strictly to the question, without
throwing out any personal reflections.
Mr. S. Dixon said. that if any thing could prosesin
a revolution, it was the langnage which had lies
tattered that day. With respect to the case of the
Qneen, all that conid be said about it wa., that the
charge was not proved. He then proceeded to defend
the conduct of the " seven Magistrates" alluded to
by Alderman Waithmau, and in conclusion observed,
that it was unjust and abenrd to impute the sufferings
of the country to the conduct of Ministers. The
recessity of additional taxes was oreasioned by the
rt-eearity of making good the engagements of Hovers.
r ent to the public creditor. Ministers would jOoR
gladly relieve the distresses of the cottony, if they
could do so.
Mr. 01.1$1•Al observed. that the evidence brought for-
ward in support of the Dili against the Queen was de-
fective in every sense of the wool. No luau could pro-
vomite a verdict of guilty on such evidence: no man
could believe it.
. Mr. Alderman Scnoter opposed the motion. lie
considered that the present Ministers were as respectable
as any Ministers he had known in office since the Ameri-
can war.

Mr. FATICLL congratulated the Conti and the coon-
try, upon the general disposition manifrited to rally
round the Constetstion, and to defend the King against
tke destrnetive arts of bis servants. That Court was
the only deliberative body who could now express their
opinions to the tiovereign, because the House of Com-
mons was most intiodismissed. He was glad to I
sostssett who had here inpported the .ministra-
tion. waving all minor dilferesces in support of truth
and juicier. With respect to the rinse of her Majesty.
it was impossible ant to agree with Lord tirey, when he
said, that the Milan Coaansimion %V 34 a I ommisaitsh
inertly to find ont evidence of gnilt. The letters
tit
Aaron thnpteda shewed, that guilt, and not truth, wadi
the objeet of the Commission, and that gnat was ad
only sorted for. hot pall far. He had heard much
revolution ; he knew of no revolutionary party in thlh
country hut one. That. party was composed of men et
introdiced measures abhorrent to the feelings of tho
people. When he was in Ireland last year .rlth the
lord Mayor. 14 had heard it stated, that one of his Ma-
jesty's Moisten was fordetly s unite& Irishman; that
he was the chairman of dabs, and the leader of
ler wetweents. If rebels were then to be founr ?rel.