The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-04-25 00:00:00

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faits reeolutions respecting the wetter of 'voting for
their representatives, and only to support those who
advanced their claims. Might they not enter into a
combination not to vote for any one who did not sup-
port their establishment? Suppose, owthe other hand,
the Protestants entered into st. combination for the
opposite purpose, what then airould be the situation
of Ireland? lie denied that (from the opinions coin.
municated to him) the majority of the Protestants
of Ireland were in favour of this measure; 'but he
did not deny that a time might come, when, by pru.
dente nod education, these claims might he eon-
ceded; the time might come when he hoped a consi.
drivable change would take place in the Roman Ca-
tholic mind ; the time might come when they would
renounce the authority of the Pope. He had hopes
that this period was fast approaching, but until the
confluent was settled, he did not tide's it safe to
grant them these concessions. Was this prejudice?
11'es this superstition ? Was this bigotry ? lie bad
no motives of hostility against them—he would be
happy to confer any thing In his power upon them—
be was not actuated by any animosity or hostility
against them—he opposed them only upon pure con-
stitutional and political principles; and upon these
principles, and these principles only, he opposed
the present motion. [This speech was concluded
with loud cheering front most parts of the house,]
Mr. WHITBREAD bailed the triumph of the
Catholics as approaching, since the very torch of
opposition in the Right lion. Gentleman began to
burn dimly, and become extinct. He denied that the
Resolution proposed was adcaptandum, and defended
it as the only mode of proceeding, consistent with the
rules of the House. He accused the Minister and
his friends of having violated the Constitution, ire
using the. Kind's name to influence their debates, and
yet he dared to challenge them for referring to what
hai been done by the Prince of Wales, and not by
the Prince Regent. He said an expectation had been
held out to the people of Ireland, who were taught'
to believe their disabilities would at this period be
removed. Through this the Prince had been the idol
of the people, and when they expected their services
to be taken lute consideration, must they not feel
s.a'rprised at seeing him retain the Minister in the
kingdom the most hostile to their Claims, with the
exception of the one with whom that Right Hon.
Gentleman had lately combined, and who had fallen
into the ranks behind him. Was it extraordinary
that the people of Ireland should he disappointed,
and that they should regret the selection he had
made, the very reverse of what had been expected
from him when Prince of Wales? They were the
only two in the kingdom opposed to the Catholic
claims. Men who would shut their eyes to the
situation of the country, and open them only to tke
paltry publications which they read, and commented
upon their odious paragraphs, as if they spoke the
language of the Catholics of Ireland, The Right
Honoursble Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex=
chequer) said, he would take the opinion of Dr.
O'Connor against that of all the Catholics of Ire-
land ; it might be his conviction, but he would differ
from every perioe that wished to be considered as
baring common sense, On the conclusion of his
speech, he would not say that the Catholics should
never have einaniripation ; but he told them, that
when Europe was at peace, and when Catholics be-
came Protestants, they might have it. Another ar-
gument of the Right Honourable Gentleman was
equelly preposterous, in requiring that the Catholics
should give up the Pope—he might as well talk of ii
Catholic without * Pope, as the Protestant Church
without a head. He also had adverted to the power
of the Catholic voters in Ireland, and said, that it
might be thought he felt sore at the declaration they
had made. lie (Mr. W.) had raid it, and thought
it just that they would not vote for any person to
represent them ii Parliament who would not support
Catholic Emancipation, and oppose his Majesty's
present Ministers. as this to be wondered at,
when. they knew who WB3 Prime Minister—a man
that was the only barrier to their claims ? It might
bo indecorous to speak of the Prince Regent, but it
could not he of his appointments; he had appointed
a 111 i lister who was the only barrier to the prayer
of the Petitioners. However opposed to the mea-
sure, he had the generosity to acknowledge, that
some of the Catholics of Ireland, from their edu-
colon, had become so enlightened, that they
were worthy of consideration ; but that the lower
Orders of the people were not entitled to the same
House,
He had beard doctrines held in that
House, that negroes had equal capacities with the
natives of England ; and would it be said, that na-
tives of Ireland were inferior to negroes ?—Without
being figurative, he would not say that it was neces-
pry for them to he caught and tamed, as expressed
by an Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Fuller); for,
' take the lowest Irish peasant, he would be found
possessed of that which every man was proud of, he
msant honesty and fidelity—dike them .11 teldtllß'
life, they soared above any part of the Empire, by,
education the inuate talent was drawn out, unknown
by the possessor, but a gem to the community *t
large. So much eloquence had been heard on this
question, particularly from a Ndbte Lord (Binning),
and au lioeourable Gentleman (Mr. Vernon), it
might he considered affectation if he was to attempt
to enlarge on the subject. It had done them burner-
tal honour. How would the Catholics of Ireland ex-
ult, when they read the speech of his Hon. Friend
(Mr. Vernon), whom he was proud to have the ho-
nour of calling by that name !—They well knew he
I, the son of the Archbishop of York, brought up
p ah.r the careful eye of his father, and such were the
principles he had imbibed. He was almost at a loss
which he should admire more, the grounds of his
speech, or the language and manner it was delivered
in. Ile concluded by pointing out, in glowing terms,
the necessity there was, for appointing a Committee
to enquirointo the causes of the complaints which had
been so strongly surged by the Petitioners, than
which, a mere reasonable proposition he could not
well conceive.
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