The Liverpool Standard, and General Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1854-08-29 00:00:00

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Ireland f

the mass-hous

lan Catholics evinced symptoi.
',hey were threatened with
kind of abuse was practised upon their

n many

tricts, the anfor-

,een led from darl

to emigrate in the hope of finding in the
soil, and free constitution of the United States
ty from persecution which they could not en-

in their native land. He had been requested, he said it
tinuation, to move a resolution, which was to this effect
That universal as experience has proved the Romisl

_
system to be hostile tomen's temporal and spiritual welfare,
the only hope of Ireland's national regeneration lay in her
deliverance from the baneful influence by which she has
been so long blighted." (Cheers.) In carrying out the

the iresolution, he would commence by stating,
time since at the British Museum he was look-
.g over the records of that house of which their chair-
man (Mr. Horsfall) was so worthy a member—(vehement
ring), and among the records laid upon the
of the House of Commons, by order of
Her Most Gracious Majesty the Queen, he found
certain documents relating to the state of crime in Eng-
land, and the state of crime in Ireland. That which
related to England gave a return of every case of a crimi-
^ommitted in England and Wales, and under the
large of murder the total number of persons accused,
tiring a period of ten years, was 718, of whom 179 were
onvicted, which would give 72 committals for murder
er annum ; and, comparing this with the population of
England and Wales, according to the last census, they
onclusively arrived at the result that in each million
)f the population of England and Wales there were four
persons charged with murder. In other words, the pro-
portion of accusations for murder was as four to a million.
He entreated the meeting to retain that item steadily in
their mind, as beingthe standard by which all he had stated
that evening should be judged. Among the other docu-
ments laid on the table of the House, he found a return of
the number of cases of murder in Ireland reported to the
police for a period of nearly three years, the total number
being 644, or exactly 33 in a million. (Sensation.) But
it was fair to say this was some years ago—from 1836 to
1839—and that since then there had been a great change,
a change rising contemporaneously with that described by
his friend Mr. Ellis as taking place in Connemara,
Dublin, and other parts of Ireland. (Cheers.) The
same report contained a report for seven years—the
even best years ever known in the history of Ireland.
"n those seven years the number of reported murders
ras 914, which gave an average of 130 per annum, and, when
mmared with the population, it showed that there were
-s to each million of the population. Hete, then,
..1 at the facts which enabled them to draw a
arison between the two countries of England and
,and. Governed by the same laws, living under the
ame constitution, having the same civil and religious
liberties, ruled by the same magistracy, and reigned
over by the same sovereign ;—(hear, hear)—yet in Eng-
land and Wales there were only four murders to a million
Inhabitants; while in Ireland, for the past seven years, the
'murders were, on the average, nineteen to the million.
'hence arose the difference ? On looking through the
)ers he found two other documents which would enable
- enrm a judgment as to the relative proportion of
.1t parts of Ireland itself : in the north
,re Protestants chiefly prevailed, and in the
south-west, where Romanism principally obtained.—
The return for the year 1839. showed clearly that in a
eras a large body of Pro-
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18 to the million; while in the strictly Roman Catholic
district the number was 80 to a million. (Sensation.)
Wherefore was this difference ? To what cause must
they attribute it ? In another return for 1843, he found
that the number of persons charged with murder in the
Protestant district was' 7 to one million, while in the
Roman Catholic district' the number charged amounted
it to 50 to the million !' (Great sensat4^-

ige was made, but there
his man's mind, and he
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Asked—why should there be this difference—not
.crely between England and Ireland, but between two
parts of the same realm of Ireland ? How else could they
account for it but by the fact that Ulster was mainly
..,. open, aggressive Protestant, while the rest of Ireland was mainly Roman
Ireland. He would Catholic ? (Cheers,)
'-eady given them were accustomed But able statesmen in the house
24,500, Ireland was not an anomal
nf 1843, the Why, this was the say that Ireland was an anomaly.
greatest mistake they coulb make.
y ;for he was prepared to show
the normal condition of every
agents. that this state of crime
:inevEenrope. This was a strong
'd 140 Roman Catholic country
226 statement, but he could )
During
the most irrefragable
lit
of
Europe,
his travels in years
uereoree,t, heat
every
care.
and evidence. (Hear, (tHheeare,onhainre
cv of Past,
seen fully made it his business to
nsi. the Mims made by the respectivethess
le
officialervreeisovereigns
n court,s
doer. as
IOW to the state of crime in their dominions.
a 8 million
murders of iitholif.
1 Seymour
se, then entered into a lengthy analysis of
le raents, the results being that the average number
e murders in each country, or province,,k
e bitants, were as follows :--Belgium I.
68 ; irtaiy, 20; the two Lombardy, 45 ; pus:
4 million of the population ; France, 31; Austria, n36a:
An Bavaria,
of cany, 84; Romagna, including the provinces of Macerata
.each and Ferrari, the murders were 133 in each million of
the population (great sensation) ; in Sicily, 90 to the
say, million ; and Naples, 174 to the million. (Sensation.)
.t en- So in Italy, instead of witnessing the salutary influence
in connexion with the of religion in purifying the minds, and loothing the pas.
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