The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-05-27 00:00:00

1 he Earl of HARM/WHY here said—Mareh omit.

'I lie Marquis of LANSDOIVIN proceeded. The till-
feretwe was immaterial, it did not in the slightest Jr.
zit? affect the general question. It was to 1w admitted.
that the owner' of the ships ressvet ing timber from Ca-
nada were interested in the routinuatace 41f the present
duties, and it was very natural they should regard with
jealousy any proposition fur modifying or abolishing
them. '1 her tr se, he believed, o very respectable
bully of men. and it was right that their interests shoold
be attended to, too far as was compatible s.:tll the ge-
neral uelfare of the nation; nor should he in any
measure of further extension desire to see those in-
atances lust sight of, in which there osag lit to be a
departure f the general principle in favour of
navigation in British vessels. It was one thing to
pstrell.l.l. A valuable ronsideratitan, and an 1111:11' to
runsent to the mote of pstrchasing it.—(l tear, hear')
—The very worst of all duties was that at hich was
intim/lesion tl:r raw material,and therefore he decidedly
objeetesl tat the intp oft on timber. The grounds upon
which ship-owners sought the continuance of this duty
mere tit- most alt..i.rol imaginable. 1 hey demanded
a monopoly. hecaase the tioilwr they imported was at
a greater 'list:lller ;11111 11i a snitch inferior tpiality to
that importer' trom the Nortls of Enrols..: and they
did Nis in defiant. e to all eatablishell rules of com-
merce which las mired importation front that ettontry
whirr the article was beet and cheapest, rather than'
from that conotry whirl. was reunite, and where the
article was dear anal la.l. Anil upon what article eras
this tax impwied ": Not upon an artil'ie of luxury,
which. perhaps, might be ,ulojected to it with Imes
prejudice he the c,oontunity. but upon the raw material
,I of tea 11111104.5. suit Irridzes, and other structures, while
I even the very ship-owners, whir called for the l'4lll-
- tinstimr of it, must he att.ectell by its operation. If
! the aridaticla upon whieh this tuaimpoly was claimed
I Were admitted, idey ros2lit trot a tax to he intros-II
lon the importation of cotton front the East Indies,
the voyage being three times as bong as that to Ante•
riea? 't he ship-owtters said, that if they had been put
in IIIHISPIS:1111 of the whole of the timber trade to the
Baltic, it would amount to only one half of what was
now imported from Cato ela. This, however, was to
lose sight of every principle of economy for the porpose
of maintaining a partiettlar interest. 'I he Habic tins-
! her trade lead, 1w understood, been originally carried
on its Russia and Prussia in British vessels, partieu-
lady in the latter country. If the article was not ins-
nwiliately paid for in British produce, it was after-
wards in articles of British manufacture, which were
*old at the fair of Leipsie, and other fairs, where the
purchasers of English goods were chiefly from the
north of Europe. But he did not insist on the point,
as to whether the article was paid for or not in the
produce of the country, as it did not affect the merits
of the ease. 'I hey hall entirely overlooked the con-
sideration, that thus certainty of procuring a cheaper
and better material must necessarily excite increased
temptation for the employment of British vessels.
!'I here ought certainly t he a greater degree of free-
! d than at present e.:istell, in order tam Isidore English
i merchants to acquiesce in the measure, leaving at the
same time to Canada to supply that species of timber
which is peculiar to the country, and cannot be had
with equal ails ;dotage from soy other, and to the
eurtherit countries, to furnish that species which is.
acknowledged to be of a superior qoali•y. The duty
on timber impored front Canada in the coarse of the
last year. *mounted to 5011,01111/., and the port of Low.
slim alone paid 1110,1101./. for the nsonui oly.' There
was another polio which he wished tat bring' ender
consideration. It was with regard to the duty paid
on French wines, which, in {mitt, a rated to 1431.,
while the duty un Spanish and Portstgoese wines was
only 9sl. The produce of this duty fell off in the
course of the last year 220,11004. and he thought that
the French liovernment were not so indifferent to the
interests of the people Id. that country as not to congest
to some measure to. allowiog French wines to be export-
ed upon the same terms as those of other countries. Bat
even if no such- arrangement took place, still while we
imported wistea frout Fr.. twelve most neressarily increase
our exports. Cuul,l there be any reduction of our ex-
ports by importing bullioa ': Certainly not, for the evil,
if such it was consillered,.would correct itself. 'I here
: was no di:fere:ice whatevero.whether we exported our
maaaLetures in the first instance and imported bullion,
and then exported that in payment for the wines we
received, for in either eater bur exports could nut be
I effected. He thought, however, that in yeeking to re-
l(lure the duty on French whirs, the consent of Porta-
gal would be uncesaary. If a redo:floss wavelreete,

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point ;Le.
tistronsequente would be an increase of revenue anti The country symild not settle down till the
of !Preach wines. In the treaty which had been re- mind wa. set at rot upon this subject. With re arscct
newest with Portugal in 1,10, the former duty was to this particular consideration, the first
continued for the present nn wines anal woollens, being decided was, wit!. regar.l to the state of our int-rnal
the principal articles of trade between the two coon. trade, in order to a .certain whether the distress
tries. It was necessary, in order to meet the rompeti- which prevailed resulted from any diminution in th.
Lion of other nations, that snore change should be made I consamption of the rountr:., or from a falline wr
in the existing system. What he had said of wines ;in our fareicii trade. It appeared quite certain ali.,.
would equally apply to silks imported from France, j the distress now existing uas not the consequent,. ie:
and he should eViggvit a large Parliamentary grant as i diminished eonsnillit!io.ll i'l th. principal articles i,:
a remuneration fur any loss that a poor I'm meritorious our donsesti wide. As :,n instance of the Get. L.
class of persons might sustain by a measure of great . %Wahl mention wine, an article noticed he the 'Vile,
national advatsta;te. Ile had now roue through the . Marquis, and should consider it rather it; re' 1i,,,, i
whole of the leading circumstanres connected with our 4111110 y that; to villas,: the standard of esimparis ~;
Buropean policy, and while he considered time shipping which Ise should make also with regard to other a,ti•
in all its relations, it WiV, impossiiile for him not j cies, and from which it would he seen that no decrease
isis-ssi.;:triltBh,tah-eitahvtrhrle :et rraei':
to observe that tie were ex..!aulinl from one of the whatever had taken place. Ile had now to submit 4
ronsumption in each year.
largest portions or th - glob- by impolitic regulations. specification of alii:femrar.%niettsrasaier7tt..iiat•
The British titerellant wes ;Inmost totally shut omit for the last four years, comparing the average price I:
from Asia anti the numerous islan_als‘e.eornyaleclutarinlosictitaltilietr.
ptlrieictehiritin•lymelatros,Th .
life found himself excluded from the
he thudded Cape Horn—not from the rude or forbid- for the three years mentioned, was 21,630,1; w.,
ding aspect 40f nature, for there were bays, ports, awl l and the consumption, from the sth of April, I'l4
harbours in abundance, anal mod of them e,,,mmolions ito the fith of April. I s2ll, s:•;n 2.2,332,11 y. .ilie
....not {rims any indisposition to trade on the par' of average cuitsmtomption of civree to the three ,-,,,,,
a7l,:lus:imisti:tliet.r., bill: :aim::: i,:i3e.
the
from any fault of the seasons, fair there were monsoons hog a small diminution. The average consumption o::
and other winds whirls nature seemed to have drstined
to promote the an Tess of commerce. Nu, Ise was ex. year 11,175,x17/.. leavinc
chided only by restiirtive statutes, which w• re most In malt, the ;aura re eimstaiiiptien for three V A' s
prejudicial in their itle;.ts : Nod he tnund that he ci old amounted to 21, IZlO,'27to.—last year, 23,971,3;ai.,
not proceed without liein; pram ideal with a Greece. showing an i•n•resise of I.
From the tea trade he was entirely prolsilsited, add be average consumption for three years was 5,1;3,;5.1,.
found himself einatits sl within the circle of the Fsst In- Mast year, 4.5tt1.9:17/., showing a decrease vi
di.' F patty's Charter. Ir weans not the siV.:litest 340,000/., which, loos.. err, Wl{ MA he up by there
disrespect to that revertible Corporation, foe it was baring been a grea'er consumption of foreign -pitir;
very natural th .t t• apolists should be .created by last year. The nest c deuiation was with 'sopa t
principles of prejudice and jealousy, with regard to to the Kookier of ar ieles of intrenal !rade. 'the
those who might wish. to _participate in the s: • ad- produce of our exports in ISI .. WAS 4.01134-03/._iii
vantages. Yet he did not-think it corrret in the East le ism, 37,939,5014.,51c5wing a falling olfofl1"0,001,..
India Company to prevent others from doing that which In the year !Mist, however. e‘traorilinary effor•,
they dial not do themselve a. Time first consideration bad been made, and many specula:kr sii dertaken. The
with them was the size of the ships; aml all smaller !average amount of volltve 1,, - three years yea,
vessels were entirely excluded. They might be bellow 45.161,7561.; in the last year there lead been a Mier
emploved upon adventures to regent'. anal unfrequented lof of 11.2911,1111 N. lie should :111W consider chat Ira,
regions thau larger ones, which would subje:•t the I the state of our trade before the last war, anal titi;
owners to luau oreat a risk of arapitaL with•ast a smith- ! that p riod of it when our rominerce was in the asu,
dint prospect of profit. Ti-, population in the various, doucishing initialition. In the ye .7 170-E_ when we ha .I
Eastern Islaaals a 00000 noted to 7tt,lllio,tleo of inha- I the largest exports of aiv ve ir before the uar, the
Nonni, yet in rimseiluen,v of the system of exclu- value of them was Otott:t...iert.: and in 1:416, the vi-
siuti, there was scarcely any commerce whatever I Ise was 2 5 t 1; •27
,1,04),111111/.; in I 5..11t10,0410/.; in Itsot•.
with these people. [lle Norisle 3laripti.i here rend an . 26.000.1Mi5t. ; in 1510, 35,01'0.00(f1.; and in Ist I.
extract fr the work of Mr. Crawfor•l, respecting I 34,939,11100 f. ;so that last year. Omagh there was a dilai.
the islands in the Lilian Archipelatru, which elesribedinntion of I 1.21111.11110/. vet there IV:LA an increase as arr.
them a* Isig:i ly favourable to trade, from their abundant ; pared with toe official value in tit • year when oar exports
resources, th •u...th they were less known by the halal& I were the ereatest flotillg a time of !owe. In the year
tarts of the neighbouring cuatiacnt. than if the, bad I Ism Ls. the amount of rotten export ol was 2,43`2.11110 .:
been in a dill...relit climate.) Lie uest adverted to the in the last year. it was little more than 1,000,01 m.
opinions ally mecca upon the same stibjert ley Sir Seam Ile should mmuw state the other articles its which there
ford Rattles, in hi- i;i•eintut at Sentat;a, and remanded bad been adi ttt illation. In the European trade in re•
that an intercourse with those distant regions ought to fined sugars there had been, as compared with eme
he promoted. lit ri-Icr mee to the iirineiple of ett- I
three preceding years, a falling off of 1,2041,000/. ; bat
couraging the spirit of free trade, he in-tato-es' a stary the great dimitsuti in was in the trade with the United
tiv Hr. Franklin, whose wife having sent a cap to the !States of America. In cutlery and hardware, the
dimagleter of a ship-owner, from their resi-Inure at May average amount of exports, fir the last three 1e rs,
Tomo, in America, causal a general demand fair such - was t 434,000/. ; in the fait t • ar, 436,91*:. T. e
raps aiming all the young girls in that part of the overage amount of ?spars in Iv...Aryls to that c„an.
United States, who sent their mittens for sale to Phi- !try. fur three years, was 3.1011,01111'.; in the Ist
Lialelphis, in order to purchase them. The Noble ; year, 1,703,0011 f., showing a falling off in the total
3131-yetis. after some further observations, which he ',aware of the ditf. rent artis les of 3,000,n00/. The
urged in detail, concluded a long and luati tttttt s speech i Noble Earl then prorreioled to sh or, that distlau
with sulimittiug his motiosi to t .s• consideration ad the was not confined to England only, hilt alsoprelai,ed
M ose. Ito a great degree in America, which was the natural
Ti;.- Earl of LIVEII POOL maw rose. Ile said he ' consequence of the extraordinary efforts she bud
haul peculiar satisfaction in eking after time able and ; made during the late European war; e forts that had
candid speech, in which the Noble Murillo, who haul ' raised her to an stotostural state of pros.erity, whi.b
just down hall introduced his motion. He felt thorough ended in her present glair-1116es. He deprecated the
gratitisration its being able to agr..e in the general i lea of imputing the embarrassments of the country se
principle upon whirls that motion was funneled, though tithes, taxation, or the Poor Laws, instead of asraibr
he slid not attach the saute importance to some of , ing them to the long and portentous war in which sr
the eirennistance:: urged in support of it as the Noble I hail been entered, and whieh had so &terminal as
31uriptis. lie was not, however, dispeaeml by any elfeet upon our finances. With respect to the Cars
means to oppose it, I* 'tad as it very properly was Bill, he observed, that he had supported it in l'ils,
to the sole consideration of our foreign trade. lie when it was introduced, and lie did so under the coa-
ti ght the Noble 31arquis hall acted most jutlivionslY riction that the agricultural interest mile:red term
iu !savings° limited it, for had hr don, otherwise, and I legislative protectioss. It was necessary at the time
extended it to general relations of eunisseeree, it would. that the larlianweit should mole to an express law
from its comprehensive character. include too wide a usinatiou with regard to it, and if, contrarf to kit
range of ronfiirting interests, anal the advantage of the opinion, they had refused to accede to the amain
century would either he neglected altogether for the till after the experience of two or three yeses,
present, or postponed to a distant and doubtful period. as hal been proposed, he should have said do:
Yet at the same time, while he gave the Noble Marquis
they ought to de ide npon not granting kat all.—
every credit fur the manner in which he brought this Ile thonalit the Prisssiples of the laws were not to be
subject before their Lordships, he coal., not still think
it possible that it multi be fairly discussed with- . departed from, to accommodate every change of el •
comsat:Antos. It was a means of aggravatimg themii-
oat some reference to our internal and domestic re- tresses of the country thus continnally
lations. For, however important the interest of i the questions affecting the avrieultemni isterests. be
our foreign trade certainly was, he would still say ithe tenant and landlord--let time buyer anti weer
House were' adjust their relations ithe I
At Aral way they Could, drat
that he should be only deceiving the 14to be agitatiet
he to adattit that it was in any respect the must' the country should be taught to look upaa the Prt'• '
important interest to the country. When be looked at ripte of the law as undeviating.. Demos he leekle
the numerous petitions whirls we e p.maing in front all upon the Corn Bill as calculated to recogshe lh".
quarters, and from all classes of those who were cos- , principles In a more fixed way, he gave it his Ml!'
nected with the agriculture and mannfacturers of the ! and its aimless' by Parliament had not mods hia
a•ountry, he could not hat feel it ha lir his duty to state 1 idijuge his wad as to the extent of its iaiIIPWW_I
the reasons why, iu the present instance, he was not in 1 working that effect. He always looked apaa that P:
favour of aware extended inquiry. lle entirely agreed :as equital•le in principle,thougb an °Nerd its was HIP;
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with the Noble M minis, that there wns no opinion t.. it, as too refined. its 04,..e,. if be ratkostoel it
Ist' -unfortunate as that there existed in the nation r;glitly, was.toprutect the agricultural iatereslift
distinct interests, and that these distinct interests , the low pri -es of grain at which the faraser essare_;
were to he set at variance with each other.
was a most erneeteuna as well as flange -oes opinion, ' the public nes slow market when prides sheals.77
and he agreed with the Noble Alanquis that the agri- , But hr asked what could be the effect of abe
'cultural, the manufacturing, anti the commercial in- . tecting minty ? If the duty was small, it woald serve.
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terra. were enmpletely blended ; the strength of the no protection at all. If large, its efleet, as towatte
'saw was the strength of time other, and the weakness abut., would be mud prejudicial in times of dear
lof the one was the weaklier, of the other. They oughts he House would recollect that the price, in the
I therefore, never to be represented as distinct. Agri- I T
Bill, was fixed at KM.; this the oppeuents of the tif
culture, which he considered the basis of our national mmatended wunid be the miaimisto, but he (Lard 14 sr_
strength, would wit be what it was, nor would those the supporters of the Bill, argued that It wesehltif
who made fortnves by it hare amassed inmownse wealth, I isse,efm.,os prier. In rreurring to the retntus oftio.F.P.,.___,
had it not been for commerce and imumfactures, which of wheat in the years between the .itle of Jaw of
Isstered and supported it. Therefore he should say, fitia of Jan. 1t419, it would be bowie that
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'that• neither could be sensed by the exclusion of the not average more than pts.3•l a qeart^et,o: 0,5
other. The first point to he considered was, what the did nut average more thatt_T
r.
eelnixeratn._ .Nowt~s,
actual state of our foreign and internal trade was, front
antketttic documents. Next, to nutting. minutely the ;fundsl77 rommittedblotrh.s . ,torts.rm,.. r 7_,.....-,
hat', dtot
tehetenportalusioun of
irate:if
and
liv,
wit Whirigv.,
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causes 'of ear distress, and see if any, or what remedy : present laws. if iiirtsri pot is forte, were sale
eats-be applied to' that distress. But there was one, ea elect theme fetta. without liaeimg Yr.."' we
Wrtieular its which he also agreed with the Noble ;Oise, 'tech,' net shish tia • present p ze
mess a le
‘equis, namely,- that it Was more material to derider ragesahaued ita.elepasSedisli°4l,c3 d it
,-_. ~
' they would not do than what they woad du. [suppose, that leasing out the As ISO

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f t JO, to the lzto•-1.toott ntereets of this ',reentry. t notoeturee, and it wol6l he a stark of difficulty to ob-1 of the object of the petition, but that he did not see
is, se contrary 0.01. d. be the oleos The n• was al.. 1 tai', aels .1 wa eye iv:valeta to those civet' op. II" tone it could well he attained.
•hsr point ni wOte•li he would foetl, though sot I question, thew was he be amorei :it in tees, news__ The , .
a..
s .edietely elinneciesi with the question of aerienhitee. I one, as to the carrying en of trade ; the other, as petition was brought op and toad. It stated'
L„„,„ the cerremy. He was clearly set iyilliMi th it the to the ex tetiiiiiiii ut tilanuficiiire... A. to the hits that the petitioners, being general venders of newts
dollies, fur hitherto no ef papers,
~ivlcs laid 'lon ii last Session should not he Ill•Parte.i . ier. lie had verysuffered touch embarrassment by the great in-
ow It was said that distress resulted from it, leo lie . for were %jolly,' he itriii,ii „minims to
find a crease of Sunday newspapers. They were disposed to
erten leil it• intlieenee was not partial. In ewe. ifee a market Mr their goods. without enecees. So great was make 1:o inconsiderable pecuniary earl itice.rather than
rat Inestion no chance should be matte frees' the sir- their deprecietioe, that iii India, British noeilitoi i•ouldl ene.„,,, in venting
tatter to its affecting one branch of the r tttt numity. • not he made to feti•li more than half the price of India' e- - that atall, if they • • not
such 'spin
4•4l'W` I airaid this would telly thruw the: part of the
fercgs uere not woree now rain , ,
t n in lot?, when die ;midi le 1.. Perhaps this was it consequetwe of a glut in:
woe ot corn was lower than it was non, mei the price the market; for one cause of the falling off last tear' trade into other hands. They felt great reluctance iu
4 „id or% 41.4,. Perliaiet the arratieement of last was the amaaing quantitv of 'snort% to ,e,i, eimee'r„,..l engaging in that part of tile trade, because it prevented
gsiemu Iris not PO perfect as it might tee, hut Paths- ' met years. In China. every effort to introduce British' them, in a very great degree, from attending to the
met:tine! elone tier thing, net they could vim retrace their manufactures had totally failed ; best this was not owing i duties of the Sabbath; and this misfortune was felt nut
'trot without danger. lie lied slippier:4.d Ilse flank lie. entirely to the bar pat to feedlot between that country' only by thenevelves. hut by others, as they were
strietion throngh :he war, from a tiers! .sion that this and dna (for an extensive private trade was carried on I obliged to etnploy several extra hands in the distribu•
mum never have got through the war without between India and China), hut to the jeolonev of British I
reentry lion of these newspapers. With respect to the general
0. But at the return ut race. he %alit that the coonoy marinfactures, The ,pteetion was important, as affect-
shanld return to its ancient system of metallic currency. ino the great shippine interests of the nation, and be' character of these prints, they hail, in the opinion of
Eieuio war it had its evil% ndoe•l up with good, beet in hail no objection th it the trade from India shoolo he I the petitioners, a derided tendency to injure the pub-
hiss... a wools' only produce evils. IS wilula tem. to OPeill'it to all parts of t!.e it odd without the inierveu.! tic morals. They afforded a strong. temptation to the
p,,,• .ter F: rufous (spied+. There tesiget he a ShO.C. of teeth of this rumors.. I; "3'4 intended tie make this; lower classes of tradesmen and labourers to give to the
trots.. awl the inanities:lures and machines. he agd!!, it ...Hooey the amporimei ,et foreign cmcimeree, arid the!reading Ithat time lought be dedicated
o rhino
wort.: toot the alarm wields he felt, :Ind iteveral. n ell. port tel Malta the emporiein of the Mediterratteon trade; to religious duties; they served to sow the seeds of
informe : men felt the emcee. was, diet the roott'rs dotal.' bet whether ships (Aoki India shoe'', he permitted to) d.ii .
he subject to these revulsions every two ui three soots. . trade' it idsthe other
parts of the %lurid without tench- 1 toolprinciples. The
o oyaity, and to propagate itnin
sseopriae and circulation wouldlie going un in the ing a! these dace's, 0 mild he a question fin the "moles' petitioners therefore pi eyed the House to take such
n:•.s.iciiee, obieli, aidedby the perfeeoioe of machinery, retool of Parliament. An exteneitei of the ttsde, be re-! measures as were calculated to put all effectual stop to
e .::I soon elm the merltets, and, et •lie same ome, peateel, would he desirable. and he Moped it would meke' Sunday Newspapers.
create this fictitious capital. as, th•oefere, lie depree i- :i part in a new erracie emetic Bet mg now followsoll 3lr. LAMB lON said, he would nut oppose the DW-
1...1ady alteration in the Corn Lawe, for the same rea.get the Nobs Marquis in tcm %hove whi.,o, he took of the,
, Coil fur laying this petition on the table, but he could
lee would advise no alteration in tier rue rency. 't !••• se•yeral silkier's, he asked 'Lira's', 01 the 11011,e fop 13k.1
,•• not remoin in his seat without exprestieg his disgust
i principle which lie wished their Lordships not to inn e wilier field Omit ',polio it :Wet seemed called for. . .
grant
• ht of, was, that the country and the whole world ,Ile, howevei , felt it elm: to Isis 'notation and to die cowls; at the hypocritical cant of these petitioners —(Hear,
hoe mg
elcould feel that they were acting upon a hued system, try, not to give assent to the motion until he haul se.' hear '.)—They ranee to the House, and stated, indeed,
and that they were determined not tie be tampering :leered his sentiments. lie tlionolit it due to the Douse ' that Sunday Newspapers held out to them a temptotiou
with their laws to suit every possible teremostance whi..ll to explain, in some torsi:sure. whet the situation ,41. the to stay away front their Salebat le duties, although it
Height arise. lie would again recommend not to alter country was, in regent to its internal and external rr!a-I was obtioua that they lead the power of removing that
rowel principles, because of some local distress.--'lions, and what the Cille.ei
were ''t its 'll‘t'e"- II" hruli temptation as it affected the I 1 f • themes- yes, by re using to
Meting now endeavoured to ausuer the principles of the also sniegesteil the remelts. but he would not emir"'
sell such papers at all.—(licar, brut'.!—The clearee
pt.ltoFttion made by the Noble Marquis, he would come that he thought that renie:ly .centel ouiv he found in
inane irortioliately to his facts. IVitle regard to the I urn time and patience. st nv of die alterations prepos,..ll,s nettle in the petition against the principles on which
Laws, he had already stated that difficulties lay In the the N••hie Marquit. he feared. woula he lee partialie tier Sunday newspapers are cumlewhol, was in lii. opi-
wet-, which the advocates of this measure were certainly henetii•iel, particularly es they effected the menitfactstr- 111011 perfectly unfouuded. The ereat majority of
net aware of. He must declare he felt convinced that it._ interests. lint he ,144iirerated the system of tamper. threw papers, indeed lie knew net that he could ex••ept
though some of them opposed the Corn Bill in 1816, yet lug with the lases, and Adopting 11140•110.44Plites 011 i•very rtete our, afforded much political and morel ieestrtic-
they acre unwilling to change the present Priem, reel emergency. Those tliet erre iii exit/ no., even if found lion ; not one
of them tnenteateit blasphemous
sentis
nos • euen OP Wet TON.
be was oorivinced they were equally It/twilling to do :oily iesentivenient, Wen. at least productive of one good--
meuts, He could not but olisio ye, that if the petition- : The House neat resume I the adjourned debate on
those protecting deities, which were afforded to maim• the were certain and defined. Nothing was enure lisle. I
factures here in a greater extent than in any other able in the laws of commerce (his Lordship added), •n endeavoured to mend their own liv••sat home, rather Mr. 14). wI I N AV's Ifflitioll to postpone, from the Gob of
country in the worlil—lt was a fallacy to auppose that a than this ceitainty, end the fewer and simpler 1110 laws I thancome forward with thia attack upon the con- June to the She of Jul', , the petition aesitest the return
free bade could be given. Snprsillg th• law for the were, the better. After again reeommeneling nit ad- duelers of Sutoley Papers, they would hate acted of Mr. Ellis.
Protettion of cotton was repealed, and that the ditties bemire to the estublishiel 1.1%5. his Lordship eloll4llllled ! much inure cemiodetilly with the dictates of Christi- Sir ROBERT HERON toppoted the proposal fer
on wool were taken off, it would not affect these articles. Iby saying, that by their ,•ertainty they gave assurance, ! :mite. ;Hear, hear:) : taking thi% Cli4e out of the erelinars• teurse of piece:Al-
As to the two others, silk and linen, the first was porch! aunt banished that want of contielenee whir!, a variont., • The petition was then Uhl era the table. hie, merely because Mr. Ellis %vas algent at the Cape
artificial in this country, and a free trade would pet no iin, and uncertain legielat• was apt to prodnce in the
end to it altogether. This was a manufacture which be- pegple.—(Hear. Ilea rl) 1 Neu Wti
ai e' &n Tar no.—t lion the mull tttt of Mr. of (loud Hope. At the time of the election his qualis-
kinked more properly to France, who, if she sent silk, Flee Marquis set LANSDOWN eeplained. 'C. W. WIN N, a new writ %Yd• once red for the eleetien cation wars called fur ; and the returning offieer decittsd
Wok our cottons in return ; therefore, viewing it with i The Earl of LAI DER DALE dill slot expect any ins- of one longer% fur the borough of Truro. The return that it was nut necessary at that time. But that was
the numbers engaged in it, he could not help looking mediate relief to the trade ut the country trolls new re- sent to the Crown-office, stated the election of three in- no decision in favour of the present nulti..n ; and if
ado',a continuance of a protection a lesser evil than gulatiens ; he looked fur that relief only het that energy, dividuals, Sir Hassey Vivian, Lora Fiteroe Somerset, this motion was eereed to, the town of Boehm might
gwieg a free track. What would he the effect as re- i whirl, so priodiarly dimingnished the niele•liants of this and J. It. Brussel The first nos returned by 12 or 13 be unrepresented tier an intl. 'Mite thee. he was impus-
gargling Ireland, he asked, lithe duties on foreign linens I country. He allitiled to the petition for a free trade from ,
ur .
I gesse,:, and the ittio latter by I I each. Resoles ably to say how long the Douse was to wait fee the ar-
were taken off? Looking to the state of that country, lee tilatgow, and aereed nide the dortriiie it emit:tined. that '' •
Wag inclined to regret that a protection had been exteud- am alteration ought to he nubile in the eeisting lime, Lions were moved and carried, to the effect that the rival of Mr. Ellis. Supposing the electors hail chosen
ell there, but now that the thing was done, even if without inviettigotine the interests of loch particular 1 double return with reepet•t to the twu latter should he the Dry of Algiers. was the House to trait until the
wrong, it could not be undone; for the linen trade was branch of trade. lie was very happy that Ina Noble void, and that a new writ should issue for the election Hey ut Aloiers arrived in this country ? He e•untroO
so mixed up with the population and peace of the conic- Friend had lirotight forward the present euution. It •of 00P burgess besides Sir H. Vivian, the petitiuse that the Dey of Algiers was not less qualified than Mr.
try, that it would be moat impolitic to do it assay.— was productive of the development ut tench knowledge, against his return haying been withdrawn. Ellis. Dere the Hun. Batumi read a clause from the
In dewing our foreign relations, it would be well to see which, lee haul no Menlo, world be turned to advantage! .t t liF 3.1 or Pervtaroa.-31r.C.iV.WYNN brought ! Act, declaring any man holding an efliee ruder to.-
if protecting duties could not be suhstitideil for prohi- by the community.
u
bitten. Ore forbade the pessimism of the this( moire- Lord I.LLEAItOIIOI.I4H wished that mine Noble; P t P
he re art of tltCon 111 l ittee of Privileges, to whom vertu:sent incapable of brio; elected: and aw, es_
k, het as there wore rotate disposed to have it at any Lord hail toucher! upon the Poor Laws. Of this lie was I the question is to "the action commeneed against the dent that Mr. Ellis held the office of Secretary at ti o
price, there was thus a temptation to elude the law alto- convinced, that it the country did not destroy the pre. ; I% arden of the Fleet prison, for discharging Mr. Ito- tape of timed Hope.
gethrr. He wished to see this temptation taken away, i sent tysteut of depot laws, that system world destroy the hint Christie Bnrton, he pureitalie.e of a former order Mr. WI NN here intersosed, and yid, it ought • e
and a protecting duty substituted in its stead. With re- country. The rettrictions which remained he C 0111111141,, ut the House, The Committee aereeel that the inatitu- be left to the Conant:ore to determine the dixinaleic -
gird to other propositions of the Noble 3larquis, some cial affairs between the different commies of Enrolee, tioli of the action in the Conittttt n Pleas was a flagrant time, and whether Mr. Ellis held the office at the time
of them had been already taken up by the E ,xecutivetio. : still perpetnated that spirit of hostility ii high Wag eerier.
breach of the privilege of the House. 'I he resoltition he was elected.
remittent. One was already in progress, and if it should !natty enkinaleil from political tires. It we. eahl diet
to that effect brine agreed to, Mr. C. W. Woxo meowed. Sir IC HERON said he could prove that Mr. Ellis
tnni out that nothing could be done, it would at least this country tomtit nut expert many ailyanteees front
hr satisfactory to all parties to make tlmieumiry.—(Hear, c 1111 l merciel reverie,. leesoese we liad no equivalent to i that Christopher Bolton, Coins 1 homptiou, Charles did held the otti..e.
hear')—The next point to which he weeds' allude, was offer for them. But 1;4• tholialit fleet there was scarcely i Frost, and Archibeld Rosst.r, the presides concerned Mr. 'TIERNEY wished to know on what groa dr
the proposition for the extension of the warehonsing any country to wl.ieli it fair equivalent might not be in pew:peening the action, should lee called to the bar this motion was maths
stotem. He agreed entirely with the Noble Marquis in given. France, tor instence, tie 'Melo send enemy of of the House on Munday se•tanieht.—Agreed tu. ! Mr. 1. COCHTENAY said, the reason was, :Se
the view which he took of this subject. The plan flog- our manufacturto in exchange for :wide% of luxury, ea FIV Conic n. al/tenet. of Mr. Ellis from the country, add the toy i -
gested, formed part of the policy of Mr. Pitt, who wish- which they produced in -li areater perfection, and
presented two . . . .
111 DENNISON • tea tw • '
petitions. signed by sibility of appointine an egent,
ed to make this country the emporium of the world. could afford us upset inure !crate terms than we could r• -
nearly 3,000 of the parishioner: of St, 31ary, N owing- 3lr. BERNAL thought, that if persons chose to ele •
Since that time it had lwen growing gradually, and at get them elsewhere.
this day made no inconsiderable branch of the revenue, Lore! CALTIIIIIIPE eepreeeed his opini 111 l , that great ton, in which they prayed to be heard by Counsel a titan absent, and at 1 great distance, they ought 1.
collected with greater facility. As to the other proposi- :layaways would be derives( f the inquiry now against the Bill now lie proeress for belittling. a new take all the consequencio of their own act.
lion respecting the Transit Duties, healed concurred witle proposed. church in that parish.—Laid on the table. . Air. TIERNEY thought there could be no dutOo
the Noble Marquis. The objection which was raised to I The question was then I a!, and agreed to, "'Mont any Mr. H. SUOIN ER moved the second reading of the ' that Mr. Ellis was disquiet:fled and ineligible. H •
this in time of war, he thought now entirely removed by dissent. Bill fur erecting a new church in the parish of St. asked if a Member of the tiuyerieueent, disqualified I •
the peace; and he saw no reason why the ships of this; The Noble Martinis then nominated his Committee.— Isa
m ry, Newin ton. sit in the Honer, oueht to he allowed to bold alee`,
country should not have the same advantages, in carry. , Among the names read, tie heard those of the Earl of . a. • g
inggoods from one place to another, as the ships of other Liverpool, the Earl of liarrowley, the Duke of Welling. ! Mr. DENNISON oppoeeil this motien, lie stated : merely becatiee he li*.ii ab -en; trove the counties. lie
nations. As to the duties on timber, he apprehended ton, 31argnis of Leinolown, Earl of Rreolves Earls Hros-i his objections at length : hut the principal ground of : was cunt:meet that a .I.w v. tie ought to bsisenea ; aces!
the Noble Marquis was a little mistaken in his view of it. venter, Lauderdale, Denotiolienore, and thirtiley. 1 his opposition rested on the circumstance, that the pi.- Ibe would appeal to ties au.hority of the Chair uu that
Tn. history of the duties upon timber iya% shortly this. The House then adjourned at a quarter before Eleven titiole ill favour of the erection of 3 new elenri•lt Was point.
In tom, when this country was shut out from the Conti- o'clock, to Tuesday next. signed by only 36 individuals, while to the petition ' 'Elie SPEAKER stated, that in c.,sr of a petio.et
lent, and there was great distress in consequence, lio.. 1
vernment opened a communication with some foreign ! HOLSE OF COMMONs, Fastest.. MAV QC against it were attached the signatures of nearly 3.41011 being preaented, complaining ut .in undue remelt, a
nn•rchants, geeing them an assurance of protecting the- ______ of ihe inhabitants of the parish. It Wag adenine/Joliet sew writ could nut be issued until that petition was
i At
ties. Eg this means the trade was opened; but the duty' The SPEAKEit informed the House that the pt-ti- some inconvenience was felt on accosted of the dispro- disposed of. It was nut therefore competent fur act;
was not imposed as a revenue, but as a bonus to them to tioners against the rehires fur Tinos Westminster, portion of the parish to the rapacity of the only two one to move fur a new writ. in th • present it/stens:a
eieherk in the trade. A subsequent duty, however, was • Maidstone, cambridee, Elgin, Coventry, (Cuhhett's), churches Within its precincts : tut that inconvenienee I The nest question vy •s, how were the petition and the
laid on in 1815, for the purpose of revenue; but it was - , retorts •izances to be withdrawn ? the Act of Pattic.
never contemplated that this duty %hostel continue; and ' recognisance, within the period a•., i lira b•tl • statute: '
if s It , me and the parishioners were willing to pay a clergy-' mint stated, that such touts' taut be withdrawn, tale 4i
the merchants were given to understand, that the matter the consequence was that they should lie considered as man for milling the extra si•rvice out of their own I the seat was vacated since the t•li.rtion. By another
was open to Parliament to make what diaposition% they
weight think fit, He did not affect to recommend any withdrawn. pockets. He concluded with mewing an didetitilitetit, Act, it was provided, that a petition might be with-
particular course; and whether the duty on timber int-1 Several Private Bills were forwarded through slif- that, instead of " now," the Bill he read a second tits • I sle.wn on matters occurring subsequent to the time of
?meet from the Baltic should be lowered, or whether a j ferent stages. this day xi* months. its being presented.
eitmetervailinpr duty should be laid upon that imported ' Petitions were presented, by ditfcrellt 3lrtnlsers from Mr. H. SUMNER went into a minute detail of the I Mr. BA II'HURS'I• was in favour of the nudism.
from ?Wirth Amerce, woolsl be entirely matter for a the county of Snssex, the neighbourhood of Brighton, proceedings in the parish, fisr the purpose of uppueino : Sir It. HERON explained. .
Sew arrangement. The nest question, as to the equali- I of Kildare, BROCtill All observed, that there was n fits
County - . Mr. . .
:alien of the duties on wines, was important. 3lnch •
of Cornwall, Carlow, and Bedford, ;retying fur relief ceosary, since the present 111111• e• of wor-isits were not ; ficulty iu title case which had nut struck any one. It
might be said on both sides, as well for as against the
'row Agri:ultural slOttress —Laid on the
preseet system. It was productive of good and evil. i• • table. large enough fur the whole pariah. The fleeter hail . the rase scent to a Committee in Jim', that Committee
Though it was the work of the greatest monument of I • Mr. LAM BTON, in preseeitiug a similar petitien on Ili% hook 3,0110 applicatimis for se ere, which lee had could nut devide vaster! 31r. Ellis with:Alt heviog
limas wisdom, and the greatest statesman that ever from Durham, observed, that he agreed with his Hun. no means of giving. : proof before it, that he held the office at the time of
Krell, yet it appeared to him to he derogatory to all the Friend; the Member for Norfolk, that the petitioners. Sir R. 111-11,SON supported the emendment. Ile; his election;--:and how could the proof be given? But
principles of prudent economy; hut, %hunted as it was, instead or praying for protecting ihst:es, neeht rather declerfl, that he considered this measere met only as, if that inutiou was not tweed to, sod the inquiry par
It was hardly within the power of Parliament. If this ' hi tit' • d • Iv Mr. Ellis him elf might :trite • and 'nose
to ve pe tone against that general weight of tax- ate extraordinary hardship upon the retitle, but as a , off uutilJu
~ ~ pr, se
con nttv woula insist upon the second article of the treat
ation which atfecte nut only the agriculturists, but vi.,lati of the late art of Pairliament tar the building , that lie had resigned his office previous to the time of '
with Portugal, she might in her turn shut out wool- •
lens altogether. Whether it would be worth while to every class of Ilse euneetnnity.—(llees, hear. ;—The of chinches, iti which it was declareil, that no new I the elertnn. Then he was no longer disqualified.
run this risk was another question. Even if Portugal , petition was ordered to lie un the table. Omn. ciethl be erected in any paritth, u5.1e..4 the same ; Lord CASTLEItkAGH conceived that the istwedun
did filially exclude them, the attempt on the part of ) Mr. Newman Prtowiet•ii a petition fr Exeier. and Pral resolved on by a majority of the inhabitants in; of eligibility or opmeligibility, could not be deciele'd .
country to "goalie the duties of Portuguese foul French ! Mr. HARI' OAVIS another .ter, 11 • from •re prep' g the ye•try assembled. : until evidence was received, as to whether Mr. as cis
wires would provekeretaliatioa ;and the exclusion of the I repeal Wool ax —Laid on the Nick. Mr. PEEL said, he had had occasion to hold some ; was in, possetsiou. of the office or not, at the time ut
woollens of this country by Portugal, even for a time, ; of tise T
• •
Mr. H• I. M E present''
lecithins from hewn manufacs communications on this subject with the worthy Rector i the election ; anti it would be a great isSustice to dr-
iveled.' be productive of great distress. Brit he wished the
Moe. tocoasider the advantages derived tothis ewes Meg Curers in die town and county of Montrose and 101/11 of the parish, and, from the repreeentatiotee which: price him of his stet until it was clearly ascertained
front the treaty of I Jgb. He was not then in Parliasmate of Brechiti, in Scotland, praying that the bounties that respectable gentleman had wade tu l,iiet. lee was wheilno he was tiisqualitied or nut. '
hut ifhe hadsbirwouldbave given thedutvisissuppert.Toto allowed on 'the exportation of linen, should not be convinced that there never was a case which called Mr. COURTENAY explained.
!gal was more important from the extent of its coaster- withdrawn, and that they should be placed on the same more far the attest' of Parliament than this. What' 'lhe motion for discharging the Order wis eititei.si
teens with this country, than at first sight it napht mem r
footing with respect to those hountie sas the neauu.ar- the parties wanted was, a new law, to enable them to. to. and the petition ordered to br ciimidered oaths •
to be. Taking for Site years, from 1P.47 to 1792. the • tureen of Ire' ad.—Laid un the table i
build rhea sufficient to arcomniodate a poptalation i lOth ut July. . Cs ".;
whole exports of this kingdom, they appeared to be to : lu * l'. •Jit •
stestnet. Nen sPatees. : of 30,000 resoles. in a parish which already had but 11:4SULVIINT Rail one, •
Framer collo 718,000/., whilst they were to Portugal I't1't -i•••""
01.65/11., Slid for the same time Spain, at 23,44 W, This ' Mr. CVORTENAY presented a petition signed hy one church, and that church capable of es:retaining no' Lord ALTHOoP said, that in Thing to more. _ ...
was a great trade with Portugal, isdeperidest of the a considerable number of respectable venders of news- more than 2,000 persons. Of the 2,000 who were now se and reading of the insulteut firrhors' Bills hoishx,7lll.,
trade with the Brasile, which amounted yearly to op.' papi•rs, who prayed the interposition of the Mates. In accournodsted in the church, there were We charity snottily the Howe with a Sew worsleupon them:how!
wank of four millions, and was yearly increasing. It I order to pat ate end to the circultition of Sunday Newt- children, who were brought up is the religion of the It teas universally agreedethat in enseof thelittestertysii.
would slot, therefore, be dealing fairly with Pertneril to ! oapers. The lieu. and Learned Member observed, Church of England ; and when they arrived at the a debtor beinginside ovet to d credit:A*ore. .le itYer I tot fel •
put the duties on her wines on the sense footing stitit'l " I • . -
that when the petitioner; requested him to present this age of maturity, what u•uitlal becterew of them ' 111011114 AWL Obot he
when not in justice &Noire AS" dem,
....
dime of Prance. it would he well to remove the deities, s_ : ;plotifins.—
if ire stated to them that the ruh'ect was in- they had too wane of minidisk divine semis* is the -could gain mu additineal seivaltag, Ileitsinte
any yeripeocal advantages were bad in lieu ; bit, h "rt't'ull' s.. • -s 1 • - • • • is •- • toreliii to *Aid livii lib
*sited, was this the thee for making exptirtspeotes Al- salted in ilimculties which, ire his opini.,n, could not • ehttreil ? lIPIS, fthitur bad two poles of-hit utett,whech col/fined prime. . .g. . ,y, e-
rosily tile greatest jealousy nos felt towarde Engllth pia- .be easily removed. 'That, fur his own loath he approved 'he gave op to tiii-partth : and he now bad em meant ditor hid ti, putter to -etemine iglu the Ali?' •orhe

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of sending hit own servants to the church. Un !••
these circumstances he should support the Bill.
Sir H. WILSON asked, whether, according to the
late Art of Parliament, the expense w0....1d he defrayed
by the public, ue whether the whi,le ef the expense
was to he borne by the parish ?
Mr. PEEL saii, that the parish would defray one
half of the expen.e, ,•:d the puLtie the other half.
Sir W. OE ESPILINY said, the Rector was par-
ticularly interested in this meroure, because, st heti the
two elturelifs uere hui!t, he w.tild enjoy an increased
degree of patronage in employing ministers to du Cie
duty in them.
The (louse divided—

For the second routing 2OO
Against it

Majority - "- - In
The Bill was then read a •round dear.
110.:u110l OP ALDOOROVOIII.

The House, on the motion of Mr. YYN ES, proceeded
to the 01 der of the Day for proceeding in the adjourn-
ed debate on the Ahlbormeb Election Petition.

Mr. P. 11100111; presented a petition from Char!Re
W. Bryant, swine, that he had, on the 11th instant,
presented COOlphli!•itig' of an Undue election
fur the borough ,If Aldborough, and representing that
the sitting Memhet petitioned vgainst was disqualified
from li.•l4ling his seat, as he had not einupited with the
Standing Order in giving in his qualification, and
therefor; the petitioner prayed that the House Oould
not allow him to extend the period for giving in his
qualification.

Mr. W. W NN contended that time ought to be af-
forded to Mr. AntrAtts to sit2p:rt the legality ul h.s
return.

.liter tlac tuoti,n that had lie-n
made on the preceding day u.ss put and carried. it
was to thr folluaing effect:—• sf That Mr. AntroLu.,
lately returned lot the boiough of Aldhovough, be al-
!fiord to deliver in a list of the estates to prove his
idiot)."

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