The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-06-02 00:00:00

Mr. M. FITZG

defended the justice
did not lainter-wl.'
of the -lieeislikti
au high eulogies tiL
Ireland. Hettsliini
a Leaned CIO

that Wpou. Itilisettliihtenid
abet -day ' the **Oakmont- _
the' alleged lerriirt' lif ' their.'ietteste itheeakirs.;
betipon.What principle eilklestleedidthat:Leirtti.:
led Citillhitiddal Illet,ltlch'it shell ii ItrichMaidhl.
Odell *tank' the 'peek& '6? fiewirtil ir thiltight,
0 Ilaii.velikieunnin eitithiliedd UPI& Majeitrs IN.
'vestment theieightlei Wittiliti heWiliiiblyi-tkier ib
their 'lleeti atitilerevieir ''et "Pat' the latigetage
of that 'tnilritelfell liatelidint ('Mr.: Wittlitieni),
of wheiti iplerttlitliand vaillooe'l talents fltitileule
was, he feared, to-be ati llittn liafitieliffer deer ?•
Cik:ei''‘.liiiett ?ter-Won. 11Phistri'llit *itimilting of
Itterangliell'cattioNes,lotekttiiitiniceneygy of
reasenlng ao pOrdist to'hi*CivhMod was le toitielel
fur that chaste sense of hiatiourz....tbat ofd sterling:
integrity of prineiplii.-..thabstenerous•higkaitind
:minas' that nharacterized,ow ancient Nobilitylill
when was he to look for-4110h if not Witte Ca-.
tholes gentry of Englattd 14 [liter!. hear I] TIIW
waatite opinion of a mart whose authority. wonfil
,halo weight as long is extraordinary intelidet had
claims .to more than ordioary teapot.: likar!
hear !]...anti was the seise d $l, .Givilisa •kr•ba•
pit in competition with such an opinion ? {Marl
hear!) • . . . . .., „ ~ ,
TheSOLlClTOß•GsHEllatkorgeed at' reat
lengtlfigainst going ifitclltte eidilialttiei upon the
male ground' that the most. zealous visionaries for
-tiro-Catholic claims thought any &cooties et pre.
liniicalciilatctrather to kijuinthan aerie them.
-,, Av. k. RN! IT H declared his perfect supportto '
the louden fur going into a Committee, open the
in. nand that where liberality was manifeited.in all '
States, peace and A ranquillitrlVal the certain. coo.,
sequence. -••-,•"•• • •
Lord G. GRENVILLE felt it his duty to state,
that whets allisions were made to the letter of his
.N.ohiss Relation, it behoved those who quoted it
not to misapply it, fa read the whole of that letter,
and hot judge from apartial pas ago.
• - Ilr. P. Moore, Sir R. Milbanke, and Mr. W.
Wynne, supported the 'Motion; anti Sir T. Ter.
itin,,and Mr. M'Nanghtun opposed it. '
Mr. GRAT.TAN commenced a very able an.'
steer to the various speakers who bad - taken the
opposite side in this debate; and contended, that
many of the arguments against going into the
Committee, *ere itrungly .he favour of that pro.
position.. Afterithe speech of the Learned Gen.
tkmen (the 'Solicitor 'Cietieral) it swas now nut
only due to policy, but to. justice, to the Calk°. '
lick to shew, that they never, as they were cc.
ceded, had determined in . favour of a foreign no.
ruination. •This was net the ease; in the counties
of Tipperary, Kildare, tee.- they had come to
;quite-an opposite, Resofation, though at the ammo
limn th?y -were'equally -Wraila to. the .0011011 ion
of the Veto. Were thrs speeckuncontraditted, the
impression
~would go abroad that the Irish Ca-
tholics had dostared- im favour of Francel and that'
the schism' between them and, their Piotestant
eountriusen wit irreconeileable. Another' Right
lion. Gentleman objected to the Catholic 'deltas,:
on the,eround that:they ought nut to beadmltted
to the privileges at a State, who did nut acknow.
ledge the supremacy of the Chief Magistrate.—
if this principle was carried to ittextent, no ca.
tiolic Our deserved to be' admitted to the rights of
*ay •countty, as in no age had they ever made this
ackuo.w Wilmot. The Syuod of the' Catholics,.
and the Catholic Body, only asked for the integrity'
of their-Church ; and, that the offee of the Mode of,
reconciliation should conic from those in power,
•Who bad the ability. to carry into effect whatever
plan they propOinfthatmight be agreed upon. As;
for what wassail'l' the late Ministry quitting 4.flicilt
he differed In' his cipini us on that point. 'rimy
relinquished-the Catholic measure beCatise lbey
could not tarry • It,, and they gave up their cf.
fices, Inee.ese• they *Mild" out relinquish their
principles.? { /hurl) ~, It' *is shit? Odd, that,j
thirlo WO ordeit in 1 refand ' hiid an (being on tilt,
(ideation. It was not so., They dittfeel their atii,:
gradation, 'to the very lowest Individual;. ll'hti
could. Conipare7the disabilities . under which :he
!Wavered with the state of his fellow Protestant.
The disorders which had frequently ariseirivere also
dragged into the arguments on thialeobjeCt ; but
ilaseatise of these was, that the laws were the cue.'
mks of the 'Catholics, and they 'could nut there.
tore be expected to be active in. enforting these,
lows. The objections to the.qtiestiOir divided into:
two heads Ist. As to the Period; mid Villas to prin.
.eiple.• Thosewhoconthnded on the letter ground i
were few t•tont 'theme who'stood spin .the formal,
were more singletons. As the prise piles seem-
thus to be given up, it skewed as if the disqualify
0
ing Oath was only Catholicity in the abstract.—
There wasp then, it was now allowed, noble; in
the composition of the Irishman! or Catholic that,
rendered him .usfit to participate its British rights ?
What, then, became of the charges that-were wait 1
to ho urgatun this head? They lei •all.tunk into;
oblivion. 'll6l,laitselft las a great triumph, and hu
might say, were it the only points ofthirdiactissioir,,,
that it had laid, bigotry prostrate.—[gear I] The
question that Came -to ;he much harrowed, as It
rested solal)►'isel the guardagaintt foreign influence,
ffiltpil lakkgthillaiceisary pmcautions that no spi.
sisusl intbseete of oar tanner enemy should be
*thtercised IA • 'these - Militia. • This *as so rea.
iapabin and eisiions,-that the .Catholics could
Isetobject twit. With retpeet to
the time, he would Oita little 'upon
log Isis reasons for preferriegilse
'.other.' lives bettor to *cord _.
**w,. because they wore so geoerall
tbi Catholic body, and came ebnitituti,
worditt, sOicotion to Part* need. ' F
--.'..wanias, for' the benefit and