The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-05-10 00:00:00

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that purpose as a petition. to that House its
which necessarily- elf,
suunbljuvecst
tediontalteblne
,their sentiments upon every public question ; and
Thepeopiehtda m
!till should they be contained ? His opinion of
their rights he always bad and always would main.
elin, both in and out of that House ; but in main.
staining that or ally other opinion, he had no in.
tentioo to convey an insult. Among the pas.
-ages in this petition deemed must offensive,
that which asked the House, where was its dipjty
and honour ? was, lie Observed, most l'irticoLirly
dtik6ctani-4341tr.be watild-ask. those who pressed
the objection, where was the dignity, or the he.
'flour, or justice of the Mouse, when it refused to
investigete the eliatge brought forward by'jiis
Hotteuroble • Friend (Mr. ittsiltseks) against two
Members of that House (Lord Castlereagh and
/dr, fiefceoni) relative to the sale Of scats, vilely
it pretreated his lion. Friend from proving the
fact—when, in a word, 'it aequi - the deli,

...., •. ~„, _ AWL Ain.
quenb, because, forsooth, the delinquency was
frequeut-beeause the accused bad dune molting
more than had been duno before ?—ln' adverting
10 thii circumstance, he begged ti, say that tho
charge, which it produced against that House, did
not apply more to the noble Lord (Castlereagh)
and those about him, than to the gentleman on
' slid opposite side wbo defended him. Hi, langeig,
on.this subject might be .misinterpreted; hmehi,
could not, hesitate to say, that by the conduct of
both parties on the occasion referred to, it was ca.
Isually discovered, ,indeed distinctly avowed, that
the purchase of seats in that House had likvii the
continual practice Of all Adininistralions. MA
thei could the Livery of litandois be coudemned
far asking• that House, where was its dignity,
'• where .was its justice, after overlooking such asks.
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;covery, and giving impunity to those who con.
klisee a gross. aiolatiriss of its best. privileges!
--A. Right. Hun.CLelltiOinan (Mr:: 'rerceial) had
distiuctlystated in that Ituuse,. that Were win nu
qtteation open which bith des were so ewe.
.-plasteksi-agreed as in a decided oppositiou to
!rattarastan 4wh,`abould. ho be surprised to and
-htt.titikel. words:the language of the public? Yet
he ewe aenounceilthe repetition of his own I.
guige, htv'estgitMety offensive. The Petitioners
worellt;lPPettred, rather unlucky in repeating the
Gentleman's words. hut, in truth,
from what the li,ightaononrable Gentleman and
others had 'paint...loud in the course of this and
recent discussion, it seemed impossible fur the
people to present any statement of their grkvames
to that House, unless the precise aortas in which
lilitte,stAtemept should he drawn up,- were dis.
'tined" pointed edits+ Unless such a course ilk;
deed • were chalked •ositi .it was not possible to
guard_ any petition ugaioot the cavilling2 hypoeri.
epirit, which was; nerree., prevaleut, ;ad
which, ,there was too tnuch resters to feisr„ pro.
C 00614.400 x dt'siru lir Stith she voice of .the pegs
ph. He would be softy that such a desire sliould
.any quarter, and particularly in that
Illousev from which the_ people had a right to
expect very different conduct., That. the people •
had any intention to; kisn't that Ileum, he din.
*Wetly denied. If they teeny, „note; to hesitatebb did 'not think that they *mid isetitiee 'as
alts'•.But he firmly helievedlhat the,peopte'bnilf4
ed to that Howie as Unit, moot esseuttal 'upper&
It wad not indeed to that liOute that the people
ever übjecteat but alit~celrlttti4ei,
and IskeX„ of which Otte teegliseturiousli tw
audit: asawan to complain. Anele Was Ibis ebi4
opinion ; -and If be thought ellgrititieo he would
have penned a ditfecene line of oonduct. He lolly
believed taint the Petitioners in this case had '
other Object than to complain of what they *mi.
ed an abuse. If 'he eohlst tbnetitte that:llor hit:
tendon was 4e..iesslt--the amuse, tea dealmed.tial
he should hart no bositatide in vesting foe tleqlk
jection of their Petititon; *Obis conception'
decidedly, oppositei be migtikente, fsif its ft:elitism.
Mr. J'KCOB (livelihood-the intention imputed
to him by the last speilkit, of refieCting glum the
Livery of Londisii; the' majority of -.*hoof he be.
lieved to be a very honest, iiilustrious, weli-con.
ducted, and of course toys! .11sniy..10riainirks
were applied to the Meeting at the,Conintess.liall,
-the greater part of which 'had roseo**)i, with. the
Livery, but who attended aseraly,f&bußbulent
purposes. • t.'e rse;ll' .
. Mr..WIVIERFOIWE eitireaetit Wifihtistaro
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liotitlo4 this debate tsi,oa lays
,qaeotio. mut Itese
adjourned, because it gave to, the Ilouse suite
tune for consideration, and becaiiieit affutded Id •
himself an opporinnity of .ciiiriling:serne doubts
• which he last night entertained... TfiViesoli of
;'that examination was the etstirtf. siffiipVilf,o4Fe
doubts'; Aoki be was na.Wjritoily o de hp •
his, 4'4:titian to vote against tlexcetteptissoof
lieis
titian: That House might welbbe*egilidedesthe
fa
cu,s through which all the gsiott aikiall-hionoursof
the country transpired,`andlwwasgttreeeelysorry
to witness* disposition, whPelt
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Pirticalarly ear.
ing of late, to bring that Ifinitle. (to use A phraseof law) into Mitred and contempt. 'The Petition
under discussion too paypahly, betrayed that dispo-
sition. It dealt; 'to be sure, in.seme common-
place term, of civility, but only ,with a view to
cover what was substantially au ipsuit/ :The Pc:
titiohOrs, indeed, after reciting certain 'acts MiliC4
Are - the sisbjeats of . their cettoute, expressly stated
that such acts were nothing• more than was to be
expectedlrom the constructiox of that Busse,
Fromsnah a Petiiiun, its fact, tbey couW not ex-
pect arty-good, while they'most mean to do evil 14)
thet_Honse. Its maintaining that that !louse did
nut consist of the Representativesef the people, the
authors of this petition might,' pampa, ProP°sC
next to maintain as it coruilisly that . that Hume
had no right to pass laws. It was impossible,
deed, to calculate how far such persons Wight 15
sauce, if they were slot wiihstuud „that House
slid not maintain its proper. ,respect in. this ems by
rejecting the petition. From ike.ione of tins pet''
„titan it clearly appeartil,that its authors would de.
grade the character 4 ate utige. There were ie.
daild tee Many who co-operated with such pains,
to *scribe the conduct of all parties in that House to
grass corruption—to hold them forth asubjetto
the country!. scorn ; and this could not be wonder.
et) it; from the nature of the; lang,itar whisk''
too often used within these walls. Grillo's),