The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-07-03 00:00:00

driven to these measures by the pressure and urgency df
shah. opposition. Hut whether this was or was mot 59,
be would not cosy contend. The fact war; that the re-
duction had taken-place; and it was satisfactory to be
able to show, that notwithstanding the great verifier,
of revenue we had made, we still possessed r so
substantial, that We could, at the same time, amply pro-
vide Yor all the services of the country and tie re-
duction of the debt. Within these two years;
in the different articles of working horses, mats,
salt, assessed tales, Irish windowst tonnage duty,
sod Irish ILIA Scotch spirits, there was no less IS
. sem of taxes taken off thin 6,935,00111.--(hear, bear.)
In addition to this, lie could state that other. mall
hems, which, though of little importance as they re
garded the revenue and the public, yet were very
portant as they regarded the general principle of the re!
Election of taxation—he meant all those included in the
Bill now in progress through the House, under the'natue
of Customs. He should also advert to the rednetion, of
taxation, which the acreleration of the period for aim.
lishing the Union Duties of 10 per cent. would elfect.
The removal of these duties, whatever prejudices may be
new against them, niust confer a benefit on Ireland, by
enabling the consumer to purchase articles at a cheaper
rate. In these two items together& redaction of between
3,0001. sad 4,000/. would be made, which if added to the
6,900,0001. would make a total reduction, during the last
two years, of seven millions and a half. No one could
look at the mode in which Parliament had conducted it-
self towards Ireland, whalever difference of opinion there
might be as to the moral or political causes of her tots.'
fortunes of which it was painful to think, without being
convinced that, as far as it was practicable, In a fiscal
sense,—so far as the interests of a country, as they al-
ways must, depended on taxation, there was no want cif
oonsideralion on the part of Parliament for the distresses
of that unfortunate country. Among other benefits
conferred in that country he might reckon the Bill in-
troduced for uniting tix boards of Excise and Customs
of both countries, and assimilating their practice, which
passed the House without comment—a strong proof of
its approbation. He would not feel himselfjostified in
saying any thing about future reductions, farther than
that be had no reason to apprehend from those already
made, that the resources of the country would be impaired,
or that they would cease to advance in progressive
strength. Therefore it was not improbable that Ouvern-
ment might, under favourable circumstances, extend ad-
ditional relief to the people by farther reduction. Rut
they should not be overdriven. He was not ashamed to
avow that sentiment • and he was satisfied that, by acting
with moderation and reason, we should in these acts find
=tans of reduction, to accomplish which he and his
blajesty's Government were so anxious. He hail every
reason to expect that the country was still satisfied with
the course he pursued. Perhaps their expectations were
higher. and they hoped for Isrger reductions, but in
those that had taken place he knew they were satisfied,
and therefore so was he, because that was the great ob-
ject of his exertions.—(Cheers.)
Mr. MA BERIY, after complimenting the Chancellor
of the Exchequer upon the statement which he had made
to the Committee, and which lee described as extremely
candid, celled the attention of the Right Hon. Gentle-
nano the subjeet of the debt which Austria ooed to this
country. He bad heard it reported, that the Chancellor
ut the 'Exchequer had entered into an arrangement with
the Austrian Government, by which this country was to
receive 2,500,000/. or 3,000,00 W. in lien of the whole
debt which uas due from that Government. lie wished
to know %shriller the facts, as reported, were correct?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that all lie was at liberty to state in reply to the Hon.
!limber was, that the British Government bad entered
into neutiations with that of Austritt with respect to the
dept which Alistria owed to this country, and that at
present those negotiations were not concluded.
Mr. HU3IE objected to no part of the Right Hon.
Gentleman's aYritagetisents,except that with•respett to the
military and naval pensions, by which the public had lost
eonsiderably. Ile thought, also, that it would have been
letter to have remitted taxation to the amount of the
sinking fund.

After a short conversation, in which Mr. ROBERTSON,
Air. IlcsamsoN, and the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
participated, the resolution was agreed to, the House re-
sumed, and the report was ordered to be received to•mor-

row.
Mr. (RATTAN postponed his motion relative to a
cwresoondeore betl ten his Majesty's Government and
certain parishes in Ireland.
CHIEF BARON O'GRADY.
Mr. S. RICE moved the Order of the Day the going
into a Comm.ittec upon the conduct of the Chief Baron
O'Grady.
Mr. fi I iSKISSON expressed a hope that the Honour-
able Member would postpone his motion for the present.
Mr. S. RICE said, that the Honourable Member might'
if lie pleased, move the other Orders of the Day as an
Amendment. but he could not so far desert his duty as
to give op a discussion, the bringing on of which bad to a
certain degree been forced upon him.
31r. GRATTAN said, that be had given way, with
the express understanding, that his Honourable Friend
(11r. Spring Rice's) motion was to come on.
Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON strongly opposed going
this Session into this inquiry, the effect of which would
be to :pave for several months a charge hangina over the
bead of an honourable and distinguished Judge.
Mr. CANNING saw no objection to going into the
inquiry. In his view of the case, the Resolutions pro.
posed to be entered upon the Journals, conveyed nothing
censure upon the conduct of the Learned Judge;
—in fact, the Resolutions went no further than to state,
that two Committees of the House of Commons bad re-
peated the charges made in the 9th and 11th Reports of
the Commission of Inquiry, without in any instance ex-
pressieg an opinion with respect to those charges.
Mr. N. RlElli defended the course which had been
tauten with respect to this measure.
Mr. WE f HERELL contended that, under the present
circumstances of the ease, the inquiry ought nut to be
proceeded in. He strongly condemued the introduction
%ay measure which could only have the effect of bang.
log o,i ...the head of a Judge for nine mouths (and that,
too,
upon al hypothetical case) a series of charges frein
which be
ie must
.itecessarilyfor that period be. unable to
relieve himself.
Me. W YNN said, it was not in the character of an act
of criminal jadicature. but as a part of the Judea of the
Home, as a grand inquest, that be badconseided to the
inquiry. He could not now sae that any prejudice would
rankle the Chief Huron from a Resolution that sorb
•nd such facts had been reported•to exist by a Caennittee
or Commission, ranter than what actually resol•at from
the existence of those Reports. He should certainly bete
feeferred that the lions* ahoold have been ripe' to pp
bonen its own opinion as to the farts. It was tole obi
iterate!. that In the letterpftbe Chief Strati, he referied
to the facts sneutioned in the Report!, is (pillion, Aid
qatto any Resolution before.the Hogue, As the majority
of Members were not yet Prepared to vote on the facie be
alieuid vote fur the Committee.
RAW,KES wiahed,to hear this Resolutions read,
with which, thiHon. Afetivbie for Limerick intencinti to
up his Resolution of fact.
Mr. S. RHAI said, he had followed er the Regaled's,
et fact hidilesiplations of inference, wheats. however. at
the general opinion of the Hesse was\agaiestpettiakeny
midi inferior.* on the Journals, Its * aft WNW to'
, • ,„
' •