The Statesman.
London, England, 1818-02-11 00:00:00

Wry to be. compelled to make such. charges against
.Geostleeien of great respectability—many of them
el own associates. I :shell not go into statements
regarding, the cithspiracy, bat, .at preseet, crin-
ge. toy *hole ettention to ethis question only.--
The charge At present made it two-fold:-1. That
the lA. Officers of the Crown have tampered with
a witness-2. That, knowing there was s question,
he must answer in the negative before he could be
ezamined, and that if he did answer, so he would
be guilty of perjury, they yet brought him forward.
I say to the learned Lord and his coadjutors, that
a record of this nature should not remain incentra.
dieted in this House. This record. contains the dor
position on oath of a credible witness. This maims
stated facts, and circumstances, which could not hum
escaped the mind of any man connected with eh,
transaction. He has given the names of parties who
may deny hit statement, if it be false. Aud.l ask
of my Learned Friend, the Attorney-General.
whether, in his experience, he has ever wet a case
where perjery might an clearly be established, as in
the present; if what Campbell has advanced be en-
foondtd.?—(lfear,. hear !)-7-Moothe and months
have elapsed since this emu's trial, and circumstances
have been dischsied, which, until this period, I thought
oo horouiabia man would have suffered to remain a
single hoar without contradiction.—(llear, hear !)
—The Learned Lord, who may be termed Oa Grand
Jury of Scotland, might. have promoted this lath.
'ideal and the teamed Lord could not possibly
have felt greater pleasure than I would feel, Whet
bad prosecuted this man to conviction, and this
rescued his own character, sod the characterof the
profession, to which I have the honour of belonging,
from the stigma which this business attached to them.
—(Hear, hear !)--I fear I espress myself siith
too much warmth on this occasion. But let it not,
for a moment, be supposed, that I feel any thing
like personal spleen towards the Learned Lord, and
theother unfortunate Gentlemen who are implicated,
in this proceeding.—[fiver, hear ice ques-
tion in which the welfare of the country is involved,-
and therefore it eight to be brought forward."-a-Tho
Learned Gentleman then staled the facts of the case
from a copy of the record, or notes which have been
published, of all the proceedings that took place with
respect to Camphell—to !betroth of which he (Camps
bell) had sworn, and proceeded thes:—." What my
Noble Friend says, is this—Produce the re-
cord. Let the parties accused be beard. If they
have evidence to show that they have been ea-
justly attacked, give them every file opportenisfy
Id bring it forward. Bet, as it is a case ae
which they ought to .be pot on, their: terence, vers
must take this *rnan's deposition to be tt u-, *wit h
is proved to be false. When Campbell was first taken
up by the Sheriff of Laoarkshire he said, he did not
know for what he was apprehended. The Sheriff in-
sisted that he did, and told him the best thing he
could do was to confess alt he knew—for there were
six persons' reiJy to swear against him. ' JUIIII,P
said he, if you proceed In this way, and deny *bat
you know, you will do yourself much harms—bet,
if you act in a different mautier, you will do your-
self much good.'—[(leur, hear!]—Campbell an-
swered that he tticl• not see much harm in the one
course, nor much good in the other, and he, there-
fore, declined. Mr. Drummond, the Advocate-Do-
pute, now came into the room, and staled that the
Procerator-Fiscal had commissioned hint to de-
dare, that he would confer on the Deponent any
obligation he chore, provided he would become a '
witness. This Campbell positively swears to be
true. Soon afterwards the Procaretor-Fiscal him-
self came into the room. Now, I conceive, that
this statement is enough to gall on Mr. Drummond
to prove whether the Procurator-Fiscal had or had
test given him each directions. in a few days
afterward the witness wee removed to Edinborgh.—
While he was confined in the Castle of Edinburgh,
Drommciud came and informed him that an
indictment bed' been found against bl'liinley—and
thaX his (the witness's) name was amongst the list 0+
persons who were to give evidence, and now was the
time to determine whether he would he a witness or,
not.— ( Bev,. hear!)—[s this, I ask, a question as
to what infermation he could give?—is this a goes-
tion as to what he meant to do ?-:-Mr. Drummond,
without hfs consent, puts, him into the list of wits
neues, aid tells hies his name is there. Yes
are,' said he, to he examined as a witness—stooge.,
to be placed in the brat-7-and now is your time'—to
do what ? To say.whether or no you will come for-
ward as a witness, - Campbell said he did not wish
to be a witnesk—aed, if he were, he knew tie cook
not go back to Glasgow—for he would not be suffered.
to live there, Drummond said, that was sure—heat
the might live in any other manefacturing place.-es,
'He afterwards observed, that he had thought 14
a plan that would answer perfectly well, Hies
would write to, Lord. Sidinouth to get him., she'
(nation in the &cite. He would de so ionast.
diately, if he pleased. This, it is to be observed,
was done when Campbell's name was placed os
the list of witnesses. He must be a witness--ba
cannot avoid being placed is the box—bet, as it'
was impossible to know whit he would say, when!
he was placed there, these tempting offers were made:
to him to induce him to state circumstances that'
would be pleasing to the Law Officers of the Crown.:l
Campbell, however, refused the situation. He said MI
Lad been a peace•ollicer before; it was a troublesowla
situation, and he bad lost by it. But still this pro.
lectiun he swore was offered to him—but his object
was to go abroad. At this conversation, MOW,
mond, and no other person, save the witnesses, wee
present—and he stated, that Drummond had entail
been with him in the Castle. Under these circum-1
stance., no third person being by, we must be con.i
teat with Campbell's evidence on this point. Drum-
mond afterwards asked, 6 Whet then, do you de-,
wand ? what will you have ?' Now, if all this werea
fabrication, it is to be presumed that Campbell would
let it drop as soon as possible—but be again alludes,
to this very circumstance of writing to Lord Sidatooth

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