The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-04-15 00:00:00

which formed an improveeble revenue, and w lack ii
it had still held, it would not have been cols/pawl
to resort to Parliament for pecuniary aid. Ai 11,41,
as the depredation of money was geiag no, and
tinned in the world, it eas impossible to say roacttil
bargain made when the Civil List was settled m
be tixed and binding. The eteper relict. of every Gou„,
demi* in his priva,e expenditure must Cnnvisice him
of the reasonableness of this. 'lle•rompact ste,..td
be kept in its spirit, but it was impossible'io prevertt
that excess which was oc.eteloned by the depreciwio.,
of money. From the eurreaseA expenditure of eis
Civil List, there should not only be deducted iho
regular progression of all expenditure, but also No,
particular expenditure required by the present rh
cumstances. The princiltiieal
niticsrewasi:e:s
,inndthliee
partment of the Lord Chamberlain, and in his ea ,1
department. As for the department that he „„
placed dt the head of, scar
sure that all connected with it were most anxious,
that the most minute and detailed account should be
laid before the Committee. It eas evident( how.
ever, that the expeirce must be considerably
greater,
when we have Ambassadors in almost every Court of
Europe, than when we had but two or :hree foreig,,
Ministers. With respect to the increase of the last
year, the greater part of it was not of apelivitiott
nature, but had grown out of the circumstance of the
visit of the Allied
.Snaereigns to this country. The
whole of this expence was calculated at 'L'l.),oool._
If he could have brbught from Vienna the estimate
of the expellee occasioned by a similar circum.
stance, he believed that it would be found that the
Civil List of the Emperor of Austria had been bur.
thened to a much greater amount. As to our Mi.
nisters abroad, he did not believe that they lived in
greater splendour, or even as great as the Ministers
of other Powers that ranked in the same scale. As
to the expences of Lord Aberdeen, which were
stated at 15,0001. ; it must' be recollected, in the
first place, that. the exchange being then thirty per
cent. against.this•country, this sum was thereby di-
minished to about 11,0001. Again, when this sum
was set down to the expences of Lord Aberdeen, it
must be observed that it also included the expences of
all those attached to his embassy. As he was never
stationary, but always moving about with the armies,
this expence, in the course of a year could not be
considered as too great. 'With respect to the Em.
bassy to Lisbon, it was to be recollected that the ex.
pence of an inferior Minister, who preceded him,
was double that of the estimated expence of .Mr.
Canning's embassy. An Ambassador from Portugal
had been in this country for two or three years. It
was, therefore, thought right, and a proper mark
of respect to an Allied Sovereign, that an Ambas•
sailor of equal, rank should be ready to meet the
Prince Regent of Portugil, on his arrival in that
country, which was then immediately expected. ft
never could have been au object• to the Right lion.
Gentleman (Mr. Canning) to uccept that embassi,
if domestic circumstances (the sickness of his sin)
had norinade him desirous of going to Lisbon. Pat
when this was the case, it was natural for Govern-
meet to %sish to take the advantage of the einem.
stance, and propose to him an embassy, wl 10,
under eircutnstatices, he would 'probably not have ac-
cepted. As to the expences of the Embassy at the
Court of Madrid, about which so mach had Seta
said, the whole details of the expenditure wore at
the Foreign °dice, and ready to be produced.—
When those details were, however, examined, it
did not appear, that (exclusive of balls and fetes)
the personal expellees of the Ambassador exceeded
14,0001. This sum, however, 'would he somewhat
reduced in future, and a fixed rate established for
the expence of our Embassy.at Madrid.
Mr. WHIVIREAD conceived, that if his Hoe.
Friend had not made out a case fully sufEecent, there
could be no hopes of any good from any Committee.
There was not an argument used by the Noble Lord,
that would not apply with equal force against the
appointment of any Committee. The House were
told that the Committee might, If they thought pro.
per, instruct their Chnirmne to move the House for
any Papers they might think necessary. What a
childish hope was this to hold out to the House of
Commons ? When the Chancellor of the 'Exche-
quer had appointed his Committee, they were to
have powers to ask, if they thought proper, for the
production ofiliose Papers. Who could doubt that
there would be no want of delicate guardians of the
Crown in this Committee? The accounts that the
Committee were to receive of the expenditure of the
Crown must be purely spontaneous on the part of
the Crown. The Noble Lord had, throughout the
course of his speech, talked of the Crown as if it
was the only party. He bad mentioned that the
Crown had formerly nn hereditary revenue ; but as
for Parliament, the Noble Lord appeared to con-
ceive its functions quite inconvenient, unless when
they passed. complimentary addresses to the Prince
Regent for the wisdom of his Ministers, or unless they
were voting the sem of money necessary for the wars
which his Lordship meditated. - As to this hereditary
revenue, the Noble Lord appeared to go Sack with
pleasure to the glorious times (as he conceived them)
which preceded the Revolution. iii those times,
however, the Sovereigns out of this hereditary re-
venue defrayed a great part of the expellees of the
State. The Noble Lord might also go back to the
glorious times of Charles the 2d, when not only the
expenditure of the hereditary revenue was slot en
quired into, trot when the (version that that Sovereign
received from France was not enquired into. Ma
since the Revolution, when was it that Parliament;
did not enquire into the expenditure of the Crow'.
The Noble Lord had only talked about Sovereigns--
about the Prince Regent, and the Emperor of Ansuia
Ile had appeared, however, to have entirely fergartem
who it was that supplied the expenditure of the civic
List, both to the Prince Regent, arid to the Emperor
of Austria. It was the people who paid those o'.ll
Lists, and this was a circumstance which the Noire
Lord appeared to have entirely forgotten. As to "1":
proposi; ion that the expencee as alway s found tower I
the estimate, lie must ..bserve, that much to the h!e•
floe eof the Lord Steuart!, the expence itt his dens'''
meta did not exceed the estimate. Tile expearte
in the Pork, %%Lich were estimated at 18,000;..
fact amount to 40,0001. A more shamesul syloa.'•
the public Money, or a greater disgrace to this 0:11
try,he had seldom wittiessed,than the scene ohiit.
nessend riot which prevailed in the parks for a ',''"t"
baud I.llml which had cost the native '40,0001. 'le: