The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-03-15 00:00:00

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TAKEN BEFORE THE • COMMITT-EtOF TIIE,
WHOLE MOUSE; •APPOINTEO COSISIDED.
(W THE POLICY :AND UON DUCT TOO P TAIL LATE
EXPEDITION TO THE SCHELDT.

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. • !VITRAs At MARCH sa. . •
, Sir LUCAS PEPYS; Hirt. again called ii.
Having stated in your former examitsatinn, that sou were
ordered about the 10th of Septesnher last, to go to Harwich,
to insestigate the disease of thetse who had returned front
,Waleheresi, and that you went accordingly ; and havingstat-
rd what rig conceive to he the nature of the disease, with
which you rid coo were previoosly perfectly acquainted;
explain to the Committee ol.what grounds et was, !tat .in
.our letter to the Secretary nt War. on the 27th of Sepleas7
Ler. von stated is a reason far desiring to be excused from
proci.:eding to Widcheren. that yisa.knew nothing of the in-
armnitention of camp and centageous dismays ? It could met be
*Prim"' 4fter•my letter so the Secretary nt War. of the
and 13th of September, in which I gate a detailed ac-
count of the disease, that 1 could be urmequainted with it,
or have no knowledge or it. I conceisedytherefore, that as
they were in pussession of that. etey /lately ell:Ilea the du-
ties of an Inerectorial investigation to take place, by which I
understand that of attending to the destrileation of the sick,
that they should have proper Wilms, and uk, as it. was then
reported, be deposited to damp piaces, in churches, and ill-
aired warehomes, that they should particularly haveatteatioa
paid to the emlearkation of the sick. for England thet uo dy-
ing persons should tie seat on board the transports ,• that every
transport shoed have a Medical ()Meer on board. Thuile t
considered to be inspectorial duties, and as suck declared my-
rid(' not cosapetent to them, Out tiaviig ever been in the Instil
of them. But as to the knowledge of the disease:, it is pet-
'kilo clear 1 must have understood them, f the letters of
110 Iltb and 13th of September; • if not before the
e, I should hope will be before the Hottse—those will
plainly sleety that I perfectly understated the nature of the dis-
ease.
t, theAretter sishielsemsbeew-ederrett to. .OR simply maTte
We of the term investigatlu,; camp and contagious slis•
eases; how would you have qualified that, to chplain the
mewling you have now affixed to that e!pression ? As thq
War Ohice were in possession of the opinion that I had given
upon the disease, I conceived the word InVestigatleig applied
merely to the luspoctorial investigation of
tom whom did vie receive the report that sick soldie.ri
were lodged in ill-aired warelembes and stomp pieces ? I re-
' ady canuot charge may meteor) ; no particular perion risq
me a special account of it hut it Tres a general epaiii.m
that they were so ; aid I believe they were prinespallyr
loiged in the East India Company's *archon:sea at Mid-
dleburg.
• Do you menu by general report, repOrt from the Medical
per.inis employed in the island of Wsucheren ? By no means:
Ilad • you any official report upon that subject from)
any of the medical persons. or.as to the mode of their beim .
lodged at all ? I have never iixiiiired into it, as k did out bk•
long to tar, but to the luspecter.
Did the report reach yea in sach Manner as to sa• dace Yin to
give credit to it.? Yes.
Did you hear from any Omani, that dying persons} were
'improperly ten on board. tramper's ? 1 heard et fretpleutiv ;
and from what i beard at Harwich I think it mat hate been
the ease, si eighteen were not alive sufficimuly tit be cart lid
to the hospital when I was th,re.
Do you mean that those eighteen canie out of Itne• transport?.
I cannot ascertain that.: I merely speali from die report at
Harwich ; I had no sight of theta myself.
*at that common report, or report from any medical per-
son to you ? It was commit4ly tipu% rn of by the head OMeek
at the hospital at Harwich.
lied you see the eighteeu pectoris whom you have alluded
to 1 1 did not.
Was a report made to you, in your official capacity at liar-
with, when sou went to inspect the Istogititls, that eighteen
persons had died under these circu.ostancese ? Nut ofticially,
but-

t merely iti conversation.
Conversations with medical persons? With the principal
medical officer at the ho:pital at Harwich.
Did you make any representation to Government Of what
You beard at Harwich, or risco Wye, on the disposal of the
sick at Middlebureh stud Flasisiop rind of the slate: of their
arrival at Harwich ? 1 call answer that, only by desiriag
that reference may be made to the letter l wrote from Har-
wich ; 1 made no representation of what I conceived to be
pa.wiag at Vt alcherea or Iles {land:
(The witness war directed to withdraw.
I.leutetsaut;:ieeteral DON war called in.
WO the demolition of the arseaal and the work-sof Fhrsb-
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the sivacuationsdriViehismO. Certainty.
Describe what it was that was destnised t• I have stated
Una in my public letter very minutely *I
believe; I Catania
add 19 th st ; the floodgates were *dully. destroyed. an. the
masonry hi the vicinity of the flJodgates was destroyed, the
real arsenal was entirely destroyed; it oar Word down,
and the walls wen: :afterwards shaken by mines; the duck,.
yard was conspletay deptros ed, the tine walisand the for-
tifications on the river, as far us out to risk the loss of I:.c
town by Imo:dation.
Do you consider the basin as effectually deztroyed, ant t..
toe of. it as a receptacle of Map) entirely dame away 2—Cet-
How long do yoq cancel* it toile before that bast° can
put in order again i I should cos eeive that 'was a •qaesti
which might be better mattered by an etigiaseer ; from th
idea I had funned of it, I couceist certainly nut nutter two
summers; the difficulty of working in mita a spot is very
groat, nod the stench and exhalation . which muss arise ft.--
the basin, must coasidetahly affect the mechanics and
bourers.
Have you any means of knowing, from what you heard
while you were at Flushing. of any loceuvenience that was ne-
Wally experienced by the French aavid force in the Scheldt,
its consequence of our having dispossessed them of Flushing/
The enemy was of course under the necessity of keeping their
ships in the Scheldt, in place of the Main nt Flushing; they
were-consequently; exposed to the &rating ice.
Did you hear of any damage that was actually done to any
of the ships before you came assay ? I heard that three of
them bad blllrered cousiderahly, those that were at Antwerp.
is Of the line ? Yt s.
Did von hear particularly what the damage they bad sus-
taips4l was? think it was what was called their backs hro-
ken ; it was of course front no operation of ice, because
there was none in. the river at that time.
In your opinioa, if the Ausiriau war had recommenced,
would it not have been advisable to have ke pt possessisua of
Walchereo? It certainly would have heen very great di-
em-gnu in favour of Austria; It twist bare employed a great
force of the mete' in that quarter. .5
I4iew do you Omsk it WOLIAd %Reemployed • great force of
the enemy ?. Because the enemy had a very large wriO y 'there
when l coininanded at Walcheren, 'and I cooreire, that if
nor farce bad continued there, they edit bare kept that army
in its position.
Slate to the Committee how you conceive that an stn ry in
the state your's has been represented ta have Dien. by your
letter, could have employed a large 'foree of she eneanyeif
they were disposed to employ that force elsewhere ? If the •
army under my comma, t ha.t nit been reinforced, come-
goodly the enemy might have diminished their army °ppm' d
to me.
Da sou recollett a letter sired by you, dated the 4th of
November 11339,contansir.,5 this paragraph " N towithstand-
" log the very reduced state of the army, yet l deem it sum-
" dent to hold the town of Flashing until batteries arropen-
" ed egaiast it, and without theadditiou of four or live luau-
" sand tarn, could not in the present defenceless state of
" the island attempt to cope with the enemy ill the lad r
Ye..
Da you adhere to that opinion? lam of the tame opinion
I had at that time; bet cis egoist:tows changtd alter wards.
What was the subsequent chauge of circumstances to which
you allude? Tl6llavailiag myself of Woad isaindat ion as soon
as the now cominconed; I perceived that it was possabde
Wendel" the caestry with .fresh water, by stoppiog ttionirce.h
water sluices, which, of course, greatly added to the secu-
rity of sty position.
toDtheo rectribleithatailwyerfirerkpallitredY ?Pe whentirerrdtke
mein sr, tilengrt I:tiee
Idned I 'There Was iss diSculty id seals tire to tacos; but
could net set Ire to barracks inward in glows, without
dasgavistg the buildings of the town.
Was itot it kind iwpowtible de•er•Y *ea frOre the damp
state in whis.h they went I think it was pessibh: to to.
eiroy thew.
'fere they destroyed le OW of fart I No, because
thetwould hart eldeneered the baildiass of the toys,
Were not swats of those Wrack' crew at the Mae they. •
were sailer repairs, loitabited by-somit of the truaits ? In
ewe barnsebs MIN •
Wstre occupied b* the troops, While the •
/*sin gge delild se.
?teeters to the ereetattlee, were all theme* wort:Lida
po• hat bees employed in repairing or constrocting;
elf? Tbat earthen works which had been employed is
kg were set decreyed t bee she batteries ma the cleat nitre
aad the platforms destroyed it was sat an skeet
'• destroy these Pirtle% works, it wan sot a euraidelotioll;
What were year orders respecting the deatrattiuta of the

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