The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-02-01 00:00:00

entersits being obliged to prove her guilt. Much had
•heen PM about the sums of mosey lavished upon the
'Woes. Why, it so happened that the Queen, since her
late arrival is this country, had spent not a farthing
mare than at the rate of 55,0001. per annum. It hap-
pened to him, within erne-month after her Majesty's ar-
rival, to apply by letter to his Majesty's Government for
the small sum of 5.000/. which small sum was refused.—
But this charitable, honest, upright Judge, forsooth,
said that be had heard, hut who told him God only knew,
that her Majesty did not pay her bills. Doubtless as
was insinuate d, that she expended her money in paying
Newspapers and other scribes. Such insinuations were
equally unworthy any Member of that House to make,
and of any other to answer.
Mr. Alderman WOOD hail hitherto refrained from
taking any part in this debate, bet he could no longer
remain silent when he heard such ungrounded asser-
tions made as those which had been advanced by the
Hon, Member for Surrey (Mr. li. Sumner.) As that
Hon. Gentleman hail stated that many of her Majesty's
bilis were not paid, he called upon him in his place
in that house,to state any one bill which her Majesty owed.
He bad made his assertion roundly, and her Majesty
and the House had a right to expert this satisfaction of
him. He could assure the House that tier Majesty had
paid the wiiole amount of the expenses she hail incurred
since her last arrival in this country, regularly dis-
charging her debts at the end of every mouth. At the
end of each mouth leer Majesty called. for her accounts,
which the Steward presented to her, and received the
money in full. Ile 'rested the lion. Gentleman would
either state some fact in confirmation of what he had
advanced, or make a full recantation of it.
Mr. H. SUMNER could not answer the call of the
Worthy Alderman, as he had already stated, that what
he knew of the matter was from rumour. One or two
persons, Wham he thought likely to know, hail informed
him cm 'the subject, but he had also heard it generally
rumoured. As he who had last addressed the Com-
mittee was not the accredited agent of her Majesty in
that (louse, he was not hound to receive his statements :
lie should therefore retain his former opinion.
Mr. BROUGHAM rose and said that he and his col-
leagues were, indeed, her Majesty's law advisers and
responsible Ministers; lint they could not be supposed to
have a perfectly accnrite knowledgeof her expenses and
disbursements. tie believed the Worthy Alderman to
' possess a correrOttiowledge on the subject. Hail never
heard any posiflre assertion as to her Majesty's hills
not being paid punctually once in a month.—pore ex-
penses were brought upon her Majesty by necessity—a
necessity which no one deplored more than herself. It
might not be altogether irregular to state, that Lord Li-
. verpool's refusal in the other llonse of a list of witnesses,
land a specification of the charges, contributed to entail
upon the country a notch larger share of expense than
would have been necessary, if that refusal had nut been
given.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. H. SUMNER °lnterred, that what had fallen
from the worthy Alderman lie was not obliged to give
credit to, because lie slid not know the facts himself.
If the Learned Gentleman opposite would to morrow
state that he believed it tube correct from his own know-
ledge, lie would be satisfied.
Mr. Alderman WOOD said he did not want the credit
of the Honourable Member. lie stated what he knew,
not as an accredited agent, but as an individual in his
place in that House. Ple had seen the books of the
Steward, and lie knew that all her Majesty's hills to
tradesmen and others were paid amiably. l'rrhaps to-
morrow the lloisourahle Member with his rumour would
bring down sour. hill which was not paid. If be did so,
he helot-ea to assure the Honourable Member that he
would take tare it should be paid.
lord NUGENT thooglit that the lion. Member for
Surrey ought to apologize to the Committee or the
Hon. Alderman, for such Sat contradictiun as he had
made use of.
Mr. 11. SUMNER should not apologize till the Com-
mitter directed him to do so. Ile meant to have stated,
to allay any irritation that might have arisen its the
worthy Alderman's wind, that if be hail Noodle a state-
. mem upon his owl, knowledge of any thing which
• concerned himself, he should give implicit confillenee to
it. Since, however, the worthy Alderman bad stated
the foundation of his knowledge, lie was not a hit the
more inclined to give credit to low. It appeared that
lie saw by the Steward's books what he paid, but did hr
see by them what were IRA paid.
Mr. BR t ICC lIA 31 oliser‘ ell, in reply to what bad
heen thrown out by the lion. Jlrmber fur Surrey, that it
was not in his province, and simile' be extremely imper-
tinent in him to go to her Majesty's linear, nud make in-
quirks into her private coneerns. The utmost lie (mid
do would be to inquire of the Steward, as the worthy
Alderman hail done.
Mr. lIIGKWEN was sorry to say that contrmliction
Was tooinueli the practice athat House. The conversa-
tion, however, had gone already too far, and he trusted
it would he dropped.
Mr. S. WOR I LEV did not mean by his allusions to
the conduct of the Queen, to make any reference to the.
income she was to receive. It was Isis intention to vote,
for the larger arm.—(llear.)
After a consersation, boiween Mr. Werrrns, the
('itaxcaLkoa of the Ext Hi:Quilt, Mr. W. Sairrit, and
Mr. Hew; it was tleritluil that it was the opinion of the
Committee, that means 4ilotild he provided for his Ma-
i jestv to be enabled to grant the annual sum of :iy,144)/. to
.Majesty, during tier life.
The House resumed, and the Report hiving been re-
ceivell, adjourned at half-past Two o'clock.