The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-07-03 00:00:00

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'hail he deemed to be ',lid, wise both Ortiee it the
time of thrir marriage knew that the positive father
was living, and did not glee hie moment to the mar-
riage..
Lord ELLENBOROLIOB thought that when the
noble and Learned Lord considered the difficulty of
obi.ining proofs that such knowledge was possessed
by the parties at the time of their•.arrisae, he would
see that his clause could only tend to Crests cesfusion
sod would easily anticipate the lodgment of t►e lames'
upon it.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL was certainly ant a
friend to the Retrospective clans,. as far ai it watt ear-
vied by the p t Bill. and if the Assefidineat pre-'
posed bad Area use embracing snits now pending, it'
should have had his support ; bar etamoldlpiory the
difficulty of proesring. proofs dale Wessel kaow=
ledge of parties at a Astons* of slimy ow emigre,
yowl. he could sot agree is each a clause ad that -
moved by the Noble and'. earsed
The house then divided—
Contents. IS—Non Contents, 68.—ilajority apiest
the Proviio, 30.
Oa being re admitted we fond the LoaD Coax.
CELLOO bad proposed a Clans. respecting real and
personal property, which was negatived without a db.
vision.

The LORD CHANCELLOR then proposed egaie
the clause which bad been rejected in the Conmittee,
to validate all salts and conveyances of reversionary
rights which had bees made before the passing of Ore
Bill. He stated that be had omitted the words ' for
a good and valuable eonsideratioa," as they night
lead to litigation in order to prove what the consider-
ation bad been, but ex• d his intention, if the
clause should be rejected without th,.te words, to
more it again aftsr re-inserting them.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL supported the clause.

The Earl of WESTMORELAND conceived that it
would lead to an inextricable labyrinth, and would, in a
still more odious manner than the clause which bad just
been rejected, legalise marriages, but deprive children
diehard legitimate of the property to which they were
*added, twain's third person had willed or conveyed
Oway what bad never been his owe l
The Marquess of LANSDOWNE contended that the
elan.. proposed by the Noble and Learned Lord would
' produce a monstreas state of things. It would declare
children legitimate, bet woad eisisitait them of their
, ".
property:—it would people Nat Nom with titled
gars, enjoying the honours of thee 011etiterie, but -
pod of the means of supporting shun biom a es. wed 1
this to give the estates of their delbers to persona *be
bad never enjoyed them, and who would thus be placed
in a still better siteatlea • than if We Hill had sever
passed. ' If their Lordships were to adept this math% •
instead of securing, they would leave existing possesehts,
subject to a system of endlessNtigesiite and fraud. ' '
The till or trAlutowirriptamorrso prialor-tA .• .
Lord ELLENI3OROUGH hoped, after their Listrid•
ships had agreed to the retrospective clause, that any at-
tempt to reader it nugatory by provisos like the present.
would prove enavailing. The course proposed was one,
which, as guardians of public morals, their Lordships
could not adopt, for it would introduce a system of lett.
handed marriages in the true Denman style, marriages
which gave legitimacy. bat not property.
Lord REDESDALE contended that to destroy re-
versionary rights retrospectively, would be downright
robbery.
The House then divided.—Contents 27—Not Contents
31--Stajority against the Clause 24.
A second division then took place on the same clang,. •
but with the addition of the words, " fora gelid and va-
luable consideration."
Contents, 31—Not Contents, 48—Majority against the
Clanse, 17.
The LORD CHANCELLOR—My Lords, ten 41'01
ago I believe, this house possessed the good opinion of
the public, as the mediator between them and the laws of
the country ; if this Bill pan to-night, I hope in God
tbit this house may still bate that good opinion ten days
hence. But to any the best of this measure, it Is neithed '
more nor less than rlegal robbery, so help me God. A
bare but a short time to remain with you, but I trust it
will be hereafter known that I did not lend my assistants
to this Act, but used every means in my power to prevent'
its passing into a law,
Some verbal amendments baying been made In tbs'
presuible, .
ea,
Lord ELLENBOROUGH moved that this Bill ea,
pass. • , i
The house divided—Contents. 4l—Not Contents. 'll ,
—3lajority in favour of the Rill, 23. .1
Adjourned at hi:lf-past nine.
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HOUSE OF COMMONS.

IIitIICCLLANCOUS.
Oen.OROSVENOR presented a petition from Preston
in Lancashire, praying for the repeal of the Loather Tax.
—Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. DENMAN presented a petition from a Person who
has contributed tot►e relief of the suffering Irish. re-
treating that Ministers will itate to the coantry why
they bare not foreseen and p ted the calamities
solder which that country eaten.—Ordered to Ile on
the table.

Tile Salt Duties Repeal Bill was read a woad time
and ordered to be committed tomorrow, after a few
words front AIL Cow's, in f of • total repeal of
the 'far.

The Irish 0 rand Jury Presentments Bill was read a
third time and passed.
The Scotch Registers Bill went through a Committee.
—Report to•morrnw.
The Stamp Duties Mill went through a Committee.
Report to he taken into consideration on Monday.
The Scotch Juries Bill was road a third rim• sod
passed.
Mr. I.:EN:U.IJY presented a petition from the Tan.
aers of fitituarriork, praying fur a total repeal of th•
Leather Tax. —I Inte‘eif to lie o• the table.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the
Order of the Day fur the mood reading of the Small
Soma Di I.
Mr. JAMES wished to know whether this BA
would bare the effect of nuking Batik notes • Segal
tender.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied
in the negative.
Lurd FOLKESTONE saiJ, he thought Hsi, waialpar-
tiol repeal of Mr. Peers Bill. Its object was Op gel ose.
pound notes into circulation. The house by palming iS
mould incur afresh ail the dangers of multiplied forgeries.