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London, England, 1823-11-20 00:00:00

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LONDON, THURSDAY,
-k'ONEMBER 20, 1823.
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Yorkshire, miller—J. Austin, Little St. Thomas
jbe warehouseman—H. Fell. Princes street, 'merchant.
_ PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED.
111. and W. B. Hill, hianchester, breed bakers—J.
-sits‘ II Deli., and .1. Delman, High Holborn, booksellers—J.
Helmut and!J. Totlow, Salford. dyers—S. Kldd end 8. Msg.
Keivedon, Essex. ettoraies—T. and G. Pint, flerlington Ar-
end*, booksellers—T. 0. Gill and J. Norton, Lawrence lane,
%Jane:meter. warehousemen—J. Moss and J. Woodheall, Mae-
elestleld, )oiners—J. H. Coekbmin and J. Atkmson. Menthes-
ter, silk manufacturers—J. Shaw and W. T. Ward, Wakefield.
Yorkshire, painters—J. Gough and T. Abson, Leeds, magical
instrument makers-0. Match and T. Chambers, Liverpool.
grogers—J. Flandiford and 8. Isherwood, Manchester, hat
lining cutters—G. and J. Whiteley, Scammenden, Yorkshire,
warp makers—J. Bonnell and T. Rees, Ilhorsditeh, linen dra-
peri—J. Dyer and C. Weston, Doekhen4, Bermondsey, leather
coital—W.Blolth. and F. and J. T. !Legible, Philpot lane,
wbolesalegrocere —J. Winterbottom end T. Green, Bolton Is
Moore. Lancashire. colt m manufacturers—J. Evans and Ji

Siett. liolbern Lill, linon warrhnueem•n.
• MURDROt OF MR., W. WEARE.

esiewom•—
• ?rill' ay, Mr. .fa arrited in Hertford. having t 0...
tit ' from Norwich, la consequence of the artier, bv ,
spa tee of the account of, Mr. Fentooes reception
hyli lekthirttelos'iltttardel. 14,c.„.141 tytirodionly re'
paired the gaol, end Was politely illowel by Mr. Lloyd
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the se .ay confidential coutoonnicatian with:Floe/tell,
with wit hs remained for two hours at Isis firm Visit. and
nearly the same diming a visit whicirhe rep-ated later in
theday. -Thuriell,tt is uoderstooieinipplied bins with very
volominons instructions for bis dieoce, and continues tp
maintain towards those iusgietrates who have hid "fees s
him a collected detneenoite; •nd when p .1 upon retain
points of evidence wbish are intimated to hear very strong
'Upon bis ease, he asserts that his defence will entirely
remove the force of 'Hont's confession.
Some alteraiio-a was thought to have bilges place is
1 ThurteWs manner ou Toes lay, as if his firmness was
shaken by tie absence of any professional communication ;
'lint his caofident manner returned after the arrival of Mr.
jay Frohert is unite dejected, and expresses the *Telma
satiety about his family, respecting whose particular sl-1
1 tuition he has been informed. Hoot is also low spirited.-1
To neither of these two prisoners has there yet been any
profesaimial visitor. Mr. Williams, a Solicitor of Berk-
hampsteall, it is said, visited Probert on Tows fay, hat it is
doubtful Whether his visit was connected with that prisoner's
defence. • '
At half past one o'clock yesterday, the High Sheriff
drove into Hertford, and in company with two visiting
Magistrates intinediaely rep tired to the gaol: filial the
circumstance of their having bad an iostant interview with
the Rev. Mr. Lloyd, whose seal in discharge of his duty
(is bis friends express it) induces him to spend six or
seven hoofs doily in the prison, it was whispered that the
High Sheriff's visit was connected with the subject of the
refusal to admit Mr. Fenton. A long and confideetial
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betere... e Hentlensen, and a
to relax the severer

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certainly. it not having Owe so, my Idtigfetedet‘ MlPpOshtlt I
(meld. would he mifelemt Had informations been laid with the,
I might have piaociti of order on it for the Crown, or was it
procured by rolabery or fraud, then, too, I could have, by my
often', takey possession of it ; but the OW now is totally
without my teao,, and seems only to be within the pawers of
a eitil pewees.
Mr. Wittman said he did not know how to act; ali he
was an indemnity from action.
Mr. tiletrrirn—ks they have possession, pertaps it would
be advisable for you to get that from them.
Mr. Steelman—With respect 'to the moo Who is in the house,
Ido not know how lam to act. •
Mi.cfat MTh desired himtbeelesult with his solleitw. •
etedman retired for theyllfPose.
lo'aboat an hour after Mr. Johastone. the messenger to the
Ccimadeatoners. came into the office, and said be had, with in-
pit* difficulty, at !smith got a man tato the house, but was en-
prettied's he would be starved, as they refused to allow.hire
aay food; he wished to know whether they oould detain him
Without food?
The Magistrate, smiling, observed he did not know how hn
‘lbirld get the man oat, • ,
Mr. Johnstone said's, merelythouglit it necessary to inform.
tb Pdagittrovittach Was the eaeiyikkhe Intrude I to apply to
the Comailsaloarre. mho, be ilsoughtlemotsl4 Interfere.
The Magistrate informed Mr. Johastiree of the application
made bylitedinan.
Mr. J ohnstone said: he, by his conduct, placed himself in a
very dangerous dilemma, se very 114•4 sis vivirliestion wend
ba made to the Lord Chancellor., lie then retired, lad tht.s
thd business rests for the present.
We understand the messenger. with a strong party, meat to.
the bosse on Tuesday night and hoisted a Who men, natne4
Harley. over the railings into the kitchen area, anti he s ion Ku:.
within the house. No attempt was made to put ti it out, I it,.
be was very soon locked in, and precluded from aiding the ti,--
saiiing party outside. Up to half past fonr o'clock yeeterdaf
evening the goods were not removed, and little Burley roach.,
ed without food.
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CATHOLIC ASS3OI.i t*ION.

On Saturday, the Catholic Association met at t're'e
Rooms in Owe! Street. .
Edmond Power, of tiorteen, in the County of Tipperary .
Esq. was called to the Chair.
Mr. O'Connell, Chairman o( the Committee appointed eta
a former day, for the purpose of procuring burial gronnti,
for the Catholic dead, reported progress. Ile ha .I contralti
famished into the law on the subject, and he did nothesitate
assert, that .the Catholics were entitled to hive hurl:,
grounds of their own, if they deemed it earetPent. Fat
would suggest, that it would be well to advertise for plots
of ground of about two or three acres each,and not Collier
distmt from the City than about two ruliq4. It it
be necessary, he conceived, to wait for subscriSers bef a-
they advertised, as he could not for a moment doubt th••
having more than sofficient for the purpose. Mr. (I'l'ea:
sell then read the Report of the Committee, whirls %vs.
the above effect, and moved that the topic should b
received and adopted.
Mr. O'Ks6t.i felt great pleasure in seconding the rem',
lion. There was one fact which he considered.an
tent one, and which ha should mention to the Stoi111,;:.
it bore nn the subject matter immediately before them. Lo
- had just come Rain the funeral of the l.:o
sr Hamill. w4u woe peel/ed./be in the
interrapti-in should take phice at tire io-
. Cathodics bad the precedent of tn. Q
lase .t brie own tuarial groande. le- thee -feign of
bodies of Quakers were removed Iron CnnSe- •
..ontolt in consequence of their not having bet-q
.ptised. This cooloortLe qtakent to 'procure thety-'
burial grounds, which they have retained amid ant •
that time.
The motion was them pot and carried onanhaionaty,
Mr. CONWAY inquired of Mr. O'Connell what he meant
to ilia with respect to his motion relative to tithe'', of which
hp hat given notice. He (Mr. Coniviy) would sno,gest 1,:a•
Mr. O'Connell, that as the Tithe Bill was to be re-;tonaider-
ed, it would be advisable to postpone for the present his in-
tended motion.
O'Connell considered thee a reason why he sbor.lid
proceed with it. If a mode was adopted for the payment
of tithe in kind the peasantry would he greatly relieved. In-
stances bad occurred where carmen hal offered tithe in
kind, and ten shillings in hand, and it would not be *ken.
One parson refused to take corn. because it had he. 11 pat
up in stacks, although this was elohe to save it, as it wool t
otherwise not be worth any thing; but it was evident-o.r.
they did not wish to take tithe in kind. The bitttret'_
enemies of liberality in this conntry, and the most strenuotia
supporters of the vile Orange Press were to he found among
the Clergy Men of the Established C mech. It was but
seeehery to bring a question relative to tithes before the
Ecclesiastical Court.—Phe Legislature had, in priceip.e,
admitted that ; there being an Act of Parliament declaring
that no Magistrate who is a tithe owner shall decide-0o A
question relative to tithes. He (Mr. 0•Connell) would ttt..
what chance a peasant would have in the Ecciesiaetical
Coma He admitted that the Kinil's Bench was open to
him; but when Lord Kenyon tol I Horne Tooke that the
Courts of Law were open to the poor as well as the
he (ithorns Tooke) replied, "so was the Londoo Taver.i.
but a Man had no business there without money, for alt
that!" By the 7th of tiro. 111. chap. SI, the peasan:ry
*ere enabled, by giving forty-eight hours' notice, to pas
their tithes in kind ; but it -seas asserte I, that where thrati
farmers gave notice at the same time, it amounted to co:r.•
bination !—Mr. O'Connell considered the system of Assitt-
ant Barristers to the Counties• a great evil, as it tende I in
some degree to do away the trial by Jury. A single in;:n
would he ashamed to doubt a witness, where twelve inea
would keep each other in countenance. With a Jars,
character is of valor, I conscientious witness ave.&
hesitate and waver before he swears op to the fact;' the
perjurer, on the other hand, knows how far it is necessary
for him to swear to establish a point of law, anti cot>& 47.
prepared, goes through his business cleverly. la a cases:
this kind the value of a Jury is particularly felt where the
character at the witnesses, and their manner of giving 61-
deuce, would be fully and dispassionately considereo.
With respect to tithe on potatoes, it was formerly the
custom to leave every tenth spades length to every tenth
ridge; but he would ask, is the poor peasant who cahmt
Ward to dig out his potatoes at once, to serve notlae
regularly fur every pot of potatoes that be digs out fur ble
dinner.
Mr.O'Contiell concluded by moving, that a Committee of
seven should be appointed to devise the best Means of La.:-
dilating the mode of delivering tithe in kind.
The Fri, Colonel Pierce Butler fully concurred in what
tell from Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Iltel-r real an extract from.
the Kilkenny Petition, which he sail was ordered t s "liens
the table," wla re he supposed it bag lain ever sioc.
Mr. Scat:lan considered that the motion was not one which
It was the duty or the Association to take into consideration.
Be would no: enter into the merits of the q media, en these
he would offer no ooinion ; but he Omagh!. that not being
distinct Catholic Question, it should not be entertaine.t
by the associaeort.
Mr. St oil, in :water to Mr. Scanlan, insisted that
A.:mei:Ail:an had been formed for the purpose of submit
tithe Legislature, through the constitutional metliol
jscition, the necessity of correctinte the nomeruas:
hy %filch the coontry was allictel.— foe mode by lei.,
Tr At-grant el-rtfyietied their caotrilearions tip a., 4
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