The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-10-06 00:00:00

being ahle to produce their witnesses. It was sot for
the Counsel to explain the moti tea which itad led t'. the
exercise of that power or to skew the source from which
that arm of power had procertlest. In the exercise of
their uletv,iter Majesty s Counsel bad contlncted them-
eels es ably, temperately. and properly ; anal; had they
conducted themselves otherwise than with temper and
prteerietv, they would have been guilty of a derelb.Tion
of their duty, anti of a contempt ton the dignity of that
House. -Olear.)-Itut his Noble Friend had said.. that
the queen's touneel had dealt in insinnatiou. It was
not nereassey for him to express au opinion as to shat
tuight he considered an insinuation, but he suprosed '
that Counsel, in es cry ease, had au undvubted right to
'stake an impression ton the minds of the Judges- -that
impression, favourable to their clieets, they had sum un-
doubted right to make. If, however, the -CoutoLl were
to step bey I the hounds assigned to hi* by the es-
tablished rides of the Court, it would then be cumpetent
for the eourt to say, .‘you arc going beyond the line
winch has been marked out for you-von arc now tread-
ing upon grouted which you have no right talent% and
you must confine yonrself to those limits %Lich bars illra•
riably been mariaeul out for you." But he (Lord li.)
submitted, that after a Counsel had heen permitted to
make his observations, whatever they were, it was not
becoming In the House, nor did the !Lamle regard its
own dignity-(Hear, Lear)-if it afterwards euterell
into an altercation with that Counsel ; and he therefore
did %Jelin e, that his Noble Frirod if he conceived theCoun•
eel were out of order, had, not been regamilful of the
dignitj of the House, in staerine the Counsel to pro-
ceed. If the Counsel exceeded the line of their duty, it
was tut the House to interpose and instruct them ; but
so lON as the Counsel did out exceed that line, he con-
ceived it was the duty of their Lurdaltips to attend to
them.
The Earl of Dosocennoar explained. Ha haul no
intentiou to impute ally improrr time to her Ma-
jesty's I 'oonsel, and he would not stiffer au) Noble Lord
to Taal 411 imputation upon him without repelling and
enteritug• his protest against it. At the same thaw he
Wall well assured that his Noble Friend (Lord Holland)
did nut intend to use any nuLind expression, althouigh
he had appeared to auras, hint (Lord Donnueli• lore)
of inconsistemy. Ile haul not entered into an alter-
ration with the Counsel; he had merely argued %To:, '
their on n expressions.
The Lord I:was:cm:win loped their Lordships would
indidge him tvitlt the bearing of a very fen wordy. Ile
fullr soncurred in opinion stills the Noble Lord alto
spice lost but one. that the UMW' should not enter into
altercation with any Counsel at their Lordships' Bar.
Indeed, he would have to apoloeiee to the house it any
Counsel had nude use of an nuprutiwr expression, and
he (the Lord Chancellor) had not interposed. lint their
Lordships were aware of the duties et hurls fell to his hat
to dis.ffiarge, cod tryre aware how difficult it was to dis-
charge thorn. Ile erttainly could nut see that there hail
been Any reason for interposing.-(!fear, bear, heat.)-
The Counsel had argued that there was NO trees-
city fur then' to call nue uititesses at ail, and
urged the_peenlia dilrienliies n Lids they stated
tail Leen-Rao-wit in the way of their producing
evidence. They stated also 111:1I letters fiat brim
addressed to the I liamlperhtitt of the Duke of
Roden and to the Duke himself: that the Chain-
lierlain Was nailing to coine, Lie• that he hoti-luerit
forhlthlen bjr his Cons r. 'here appeared here, he thought,
!nothing to rail ti; interposition. Something too lad
been said awn: thug esTai rim, anti lii. itiliforti,; Inn no-
thing, he 4:l)lll.C;Vt'i. to c.tl! Ltr the tlii.pics‘itre.or the
Hoare.--(hear, hear.)--Ilis Lords:lip closed his speeds
with a joke upon the (41114'11'S Counsel's mantels, that
lawyers had been kept away. The joke excited the
htughter of their Lordships, but we could nut laid mit
its point.
Lord Hatt-ten eeplained. ilia Noble Friend onlj
did him justiee'in helievittg that lie ine.,fit notisitig un-
kindly to him. ,
Counsel were then call ! to the Bar, and time Lain
Cu %el catailt i mot-turd those of lier Al.sjestv, that the
House desired the-y would proceed to calf their eel-
deuce.
-1,, Mann wheal to the liar, and examined by Mr.
DIN NI t\ . 3'114 witness persisted its speaking in so low
a tout. of voice, althouels fretioteuily dirt...led to speak
louder Ur the House, That we are not able to give his
examinutiou with sufficient accuracy as to pet in the!
form of question and answer. The substance a his
statement eras as follows :--•• I am clerk to Mr. Visard.
Solicitor toiler Majesty. I went to Corlaralso on Leleall 1
of her Majesty, it, obtain the attendance of the Chump;
1 Intrlain of the Grand Doke of haiku 1114 a WiillYN4. I ,
left England on time Ist of September last ; and arrived
at Carleruhe on the lith. I saw the t isamberiain um the
s.• I
1 7th : he war theta very willing to come over to asitg.
land to give test* my in this ease. The tirand Doke
was then at Baden.; he hail returned to t'arlsrhite sot
the?.lst. On the tied, the Chatulwrlaiu Told sue hr had
new:4lo,ollw.; for the Kr:111,11)n he v. wail sot allow hint tie
come, anal he could not route us itheut his perinisaiou. Ile
‘air him Owe after that, mid be said he lied nt, .ffijec-
rino to rouse, lint the want of the tirand IJit!,e's pernsis-
CON for her to do sit. lie c 3.1.1 he helll his 11411ut 'Tien
eltairc from the kindness of Isis Royal Master the King
of England ; but he was n4161'6,11 he woidd not be dis-
pleased with his nothing toyer. Ile saw Mr. Sit-eard at
Carslrlitte before he lett it. lie arrived in Loudon the
day hefore yesterday.
Lord I iIIIS S-11 %11, from the gallery, ensptired in what
language their conversation 11 id pasaed: -latitteipwily
in English, sometimes its French.
The wituess then witiolren..
Colonel Anthony Bottler St. Letter examlnsol.
Li. Were you chamberlain to her Majesty the {anent?
-I have had that honor.
How long. did you continue in that u I've: - Eleven
Year,. from !MIS, till !!stoker, 17,19.
Did %nut go atria I with her Majesty iu In!! i•-•-1
went oily as far *a Nutiqw;rl.- her 31..jesty WAR good
ennisgh to dispense with my attendauce, tau aretan,ut ise
our health; and 'nu account of nay faintly, often 1 gut to
lieneowiek.
Did vase, an-netting to her Ila...esty's permission, lease
her at ilitinswirk -I lett her at brouswiek -her Ma-'
jest): IV4'4 !N :60i1 as to say, you may retorts to we whew
est.r yeu choose.
Its the coarse of last year, 1-49, did you recriv.e ins
eanuttiiniration from her Majesty ? -I received one from
her its Jay or .august last year, hallowing We of her
.vlaigstyes imentiou a rousiug to Kurland its Septsanber
following.
In anstese9nenot a 64 commtudeation slid yon taste
any :Arlo ?- -1 rent to meet liec 4 Voter to she ales'. reit.'
Wai your health sorb that you dull not attend !--It
ar.3%.ankninnari•., sileh that I untAil sea. attend. I Teas
sffiliged to ro to Iseroashire teltere 1 iced ices Collins/4
live Years, is all the filigtrr sheittlif .
Aber PO4 1/4111:11. 44 164 I,s, I,:wh...prcti‘ to h., ma-
:l,4ty ?—i did nititalifitelf; anti ooh ilij'irif that hooves