The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-11-28 00:00:00

THE ST,

Line whom alone the throne seas fonnded—Opplanse).
Re recollected that when the sic Acts, of which
1141 In nil' had been said, and Under which the pro-
piewere now suffering, were i'ehated, it was said,'
hr the Alinister of tbe Crown, that in large meet-
ings the sense of the people conld not he collected
in conseipience of the intrusion of itinerant demagogues,
but that small parish meetings would always convey the
teat sentiments of the people of England. Happily the '
people of this country had made good Lord Liverpool's
pledge ; and had proved that that Nobleman knew t
perfectly the temper and character of Englishmen, and ;
that he iva.. right in his opinion of small meeting's, i
however wrong he might be in his infer:qv-es as to .
large noes. Restricted as they see.r in the right of!
assembling, the people had resolved. that if one hand i
was tied down, they would make the best light 'WS"
sible with the other.--(Applause.)—Fortunately teat
other hand had been too much fur :he Hoverninent
opp r . d and crippled as they were, their means had
still been sufficient to intimidate the King's Ministers,
for without that intinti:;ation they would rer.ainly
have effeeted the destruction of the Queen. It had hero
confessed by Ministers, it had been confessed by 14 wil
Liverpool, Lord Elfenburough, the Margolis of Stafford,
he believed, and many other Noble Lords, that the loud
and unanimous expression of the public displeasure
Irendered it impossible to attempt carrying the Iii:1 of
Pains and Penalties with t risking the Crown itself.

After this, said Mr. Iloblionse, let its never more
hear of popular clamour—let us us Ter more be told
that the vole." of the people is so much empty breath ;
it is the lir ettli that tills the sails, and will, I trust,
finally carry the people into the safe harbour of their
constitutional rielits. Ile confessed that he was one
of those oho thought that Ole Bill of Pains and Pe-
nalties would pass Houses; not because lie
thont ht w.. 11 of the Bill, lint because he thought ill
of the Parliament. When he entertained that 0,.i-
-nion, it was itripos•li!e to foresee the miserable shifts
to which Ministers hail been refluced. The aitnessen
against the Queen had told so many lies, that tlsep
might aptly enough address tlinisters in the language
of Fog, in Tne Ifieft/s--" if we must lie, have lb*
goofiness at least to let us lie a little consistently."
(Laughter) 1 hey had not lied consistently , for tie.
lie of one witness hail contradicted the lie of the other s
the consequence of which was, that before toe Bill came
to a close it was impossible for any man living tell
come down to thellonse of Lor.ls,and say conscientiously
that he thought the Queen guilty. '1 he gentleman!
who stuo.l near him hail eulogised Parliament, but he .
was a young mall. not know Parliament su
well as lie (Mr. Iliihhonse) knew it. It should not
be fmgotten that 123 persons had been found in the
House of Lords, who thought, or rather declared by
their votes, that this rotten, patched up evidence was
sufficient to c.inviet-•—not one of the rabble---::ot one
of the vilified people of Eiteland----brit the Queen of
England, the Consort and Cousin of the King, the sis-
ter of a Prince who bad fallen in battle for them,
the daright,: of a Prince who had also fallen in battle,
beloved by the late Sovereign. and otiose wrongs, even
if she had been guilty, ought to bar: Atelier) her Cron
persecution. Ile firmly believed, that in no other as-
sembly in the world could there have been found, not
one hundred a;.d twenty-three men, but twenty-three
men, who would hare convicted her %Ton such evi- I
fence. 31utty analyses bad been made of the majo-
rity, as it was cane.% Litt he hail hearl one to day,
wh eh plaer.l the harneter of that majority in n point
of view suffieiently striking. Out attic 123 Peers ti Ito
voted against her Majesty. $ I had either been creatvil,
or raised by steps in the Peerage since the year 17e I.
This nituierical calculation was of gicat imps:tame,
becanse it skewed that the majority of the men Whil
voted the Queen guilty, merely said content to that
,system of which taey were in fart the mushrooms.
Very merely said c intent to that system, out of whirls
they sprung, and upon which they flourished, a system
which bail been designated after the Mall who, left it ;
las a fatal inheritance to his conntry, (it was mincers-
, miry, in speaking of the calamities of the country, to
name 31r. Pitt, as the author of them) a 'Mem, which
hail grown with their growth, and hien strengthened
with their strength—a system, of %ditch matiy, trho
mow heard him, bad been victims frum their very
birth, which Wit already struck at the vitals of the ,
Coustitution, and which, if continued, would he at
lance the cause and wituess of its dissolution. In;
Wolfing er the protests of some of these Nob!e Peers,
it IVA% in.iic.rnc Its observe that one of them was
actually signed by the last ereeted Peer, who had
obtained that ills incti..n fur shooting a eerteiti nuns-
her of tan ney naheil tenons ins the other side of the
tropic. That protest was also signed by a Royal
Bow all this light, tvlsielt had failed to illu-
minate lord Liverpool and Lord Eldon, the framers
of the Bill, bail !truck only upon this Noble Lord,
and the litsyal !hike who had signed this, anal lie be-
lieved every other protest, no matter haw imiinsistent
their contents, it was difficult to conceive_ They had
valibitittl a fearless anal uuslieerimiesding anent its slp-•
lug protests, to which the framers of the 11111 them •
selves were ashamed or unwilling to put their hands.
They might protest, if they pleased; but fortunately
their protest had n.it the same effect as the protests of
the people. The people of England hail done honour
to themselves, and saved the Illustrious Individual,
who not only tli4mitied her station, but grieril human
nature itself. Notwithstanding all the efforts which
they bail nook continued, even greater exertions,
were still required at their hands, and he entreated
them not to relax. One of the schemes of the pre-!
sent Ministers W4l to •an a race against time. They
thought to tire the people out; but he trusted the
people would convince them, that it was only-
of there and their n ...mires that they were heartily
tired. Ile (31r. Iltdilionse) entirely couctirred in
the sentiments expressed in the Petition to the Ring.
He detested null abhorred the present Ministers from
the borrow of Isis .0111 ; and if he did not detest them.,
lie should think himself naming in those honest and
patriotic feelings, which ought to animate the hermit
of every matt who wished well to his eountry.--(Cmas'
tiuued applause.)—To them the country was indebted
for the intrthen of 600 millions of debt--t.. them I bey,
were indebted fur two millions of paupers--tu them
they owed a standing army of V 4.000 men, a ereater
army than that v 'which the Duke of Marlborough
was enabled to humble the power of Fraser. almost tat
carry his victorious 'teethed. to the gates of Paris,--

,N.

to them they were indebted for the invasion of their
best rights and privileges, fur the destruction of all
those domestic comforts for which Englishmen were
once distinguished, and for the introduction of an or-
trollied kind of spies, paid by secret service money to
!sprout the comforts of the people, for it was a fiset
that the people paid no less than 140,000/. a-year to be
themselves betrayed.---(Applause.)---These were a few!
of the item, in the score which the people ofl
England would at no distant day set np in the,
face of the Ministers. Before concluding he would
make one or two observations with reference to his
worthy colleague, the verdict against whom they who
administered justice in this country had thought fit
this day to confirm. (Cries of " shame !") He would
only say, that in the better days of Euglish juris-1
pro le• .e the ease set up against his worthy col-
league woul I have been scouted from that Cosa
is
which it tww found a willing reception. When diet
distinguished individual first heard of the verdict'!
against him, his observation was, " all I can say
that I hope it will tend to the public good." He had
no doubt that he would have received the decision of i
the King's Bench with the same feelings, and that for
the rake of the people of England, he was resolved to
hear whatever persecution might be heaped upon hie
bead, with the same undaunted spirit which he hail
ever manifested in their cause. With respect to that
part of the petition which prayed for a change in the,
Administration of the country, he thought the condi-
tion of the people too desperate to derive any inate-!
vial benefit from a change of Ministry, without a
total change of system. 'flies.. were not times to con-
ceal from themselves the real state of the country.
It was the duty of the people to be tranquil, but.
idea ; and if in the struggle which wound inevit-
ably result from a perseverance in the present sys-
tem. blood should be spilt, let it he npon the *steads of
these who were the real cause of theii ilesperatilin. He
would speak his mind at all risks and hazards, and
even the fate of his distinguished colleague should sot
deter him from boldly speakiug Isis sentiments at a I
times and in all places. Ile had not the boniest' of a
personal acquaintance with Lord tirey, Lord Lateelo
and the other distinguished persons who had
named as likely to form an able and efficient Ailminie-
tration ; but lie had too much respect for them to nisb
to see them, under existing eircuinstanges, occupying
the places of the present Ministy. lie would apply to
thesis what Mr. Pitt said in the year 175.1, that under
the present system, no Minister could do any good, oe
could in fact come into Administration, without be-
c • x a bad Minister. Without a Reform in Parliael
went, no good could result truest a change of Adminis-
tration. At the same time, if Lord Urey, with all his
distinguished talents, rendered still more conspicuous
by the part which lie had taken in thee late proceedings,
came into power with a sincere desire of effecting that
Reform, he hail no doubt that a reformed Atituinistra-
tiou, headed by Noblemen, might still save the coun-
try, and such an Administration should receive all the
support which be was capable of giving it. He con-
elniled by again exhorting the Meeting not to relax in
tarir exertions to protect the Queen against the perse-
vering toalevolence of her persecutors.
That Mettle, adjourned at half-past eight.