The Statesman.
London, England, 1814-11-26 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN.

ind seemed willing to attach TREATY WITH NAriEs,
emstances alluded to,by ! On the question that the Speaker '
and he had there Übe House should resolve itself ise
of liheletegeti.4 Dr 5°1)9
a regerred '' r.I WHITBREAD rose, and said,
my, and ' s Vouity df :led , avail himself of this last opport,
which 4ife ,
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county so application tinder the consideration of the Ho:
or three times bet
I to which he had two
(or the iatrodiction
and upon some Of which he had since
An
.applicaeion was alio'
if
-West. 1 tiOnti information. Before he proceeded
main subject, he begged leave to call
i tite County
with no small degree of serpepeti gebtseeeete.l4. . 4'imem. tp ..
the. Right Honourable Gentlemen uu
Lieutetlent to the same effect,
habit of receiving letteis from-In:land, and initials if Witch application was renewed. the.eotteselog year. 1_ . , .
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from the , the Properly Tax.
__ It. teas under
them was there the least mention of any dielßilliiiteell; i The Brit of the Resoletiou transmitted
of. Westmeath, cemented en expression a 1 Chancellor of_ the Exchequer_
lie was still surprised to hear..one -of the Mesiteseit . Giant,
an adjourreet (and to cam
for Queen's County (Set. Hellernell). deliver himself 1 disk. expectations thee the " Loyal Inhabittota of !propose! lion by a voteof. any. opposition
very much in.theiame manner with the Right lion. that Oeunty might be favoaredewith the merciful ope-
uost assuredly would be the cue)
Gentleman.. He was the more astonished as he had ration of the Insurrection Act."—He had read an mule!
many acquaintances es 4ueen's County, and he had ; for which no fewer than nine persons were Convicted 1,
January, or the
_ beginning of Febru
sequence. would be that a very short t
not received' the slightest leforination from any one ;at the Roscommon Asslses, thWobject of which was
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of diem On the subject. When he went to Ireland,l to plant the 'rise of Liberty in the centre of Ireland, allowed for the consideration of that
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the first: Oil% which he did was" make enquiry, and land put an end to Tithes and Taxation ; bet he had measure the Property Tax, of which
`the 'reheat-of- that enquiry was,, that thertenever was I then distinctly stated, that no person of sank .or , either wholly, or in .part, was to be
re,peittid 414 teeny disposition of that sort was less I consequence directed those people. He had referred! Ministers. This eppeared to him a
lice geuerld disposition of 'the country.. He bad :to the statements of individual Magistrates. One nary proceeding; Ai Iseeetreating the
Itked, indeed, of some particular Instances of vio- of the Representatives' ef..thettlneeote County (Sir I country with great disrespect—their
haiOn of the public tranquillity by the.letwer,oeders, ! Henry Parnell) bore testimony that' the ttaternent of i 'Dot re be asked:; est
,Ministers were dm;
and of some combinations. among them for unlawful I the situation of the Queen's 'County was net mg- Pionolion, whit ffie utmost comedenceof
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elate! add tatilleiti submitted '
purposes; but never wail any thing mere exaggerated aerated.. tet' . . 1143 teal, reeked another case, elk eaten.. 1111 m y Y -
than the representation of this being the general `sleep combination to' deetroy. ad 'evidence ; the se- : being allowed.to exercise no judgmew
state o`f the'woulii7•,
''fie bid passed• three menthe _meet sentence of the law having been pronounced on upon a tax, for the termination of
In different_pirte of rielinN, end he never recollected its of the individuals convicted of that combination. ! was solemnly pledged to the nation.
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passing three Months morepeacefully in that country.- Ve
_would ask now, if he had then given an exagge- So assured of success did Government
'The Right fronourableGentlenitiu would not expect,. ratid statement of the situation of Ireland ? 14.114. selves, that notices had been given of
him ti go Arch at large into the,subject of the Bur., not certainly been his wish to throw any imputation be twadsr.teAprlli.illlt ; (he laiv. est
Had he been in ihe Ibibt prlbtkOnrable Gentleman,, ''against the people of Ireland ;he merely. stated bah Apiil, 18f5, it, remained to be .
situation hectiteinly woull net have thought of fa. tit; there were` certain parts of Ireland where the authority such dentands-had been made
troducing sockce Hell. 'Hehad'seam disterbanoes. to" 6,,msuld not be carried into effect. One document ,be known that at present no mord_
a greater extent in7heland'in 180641 Oen titer fill lbwd lot then referred to, because it was not then such information, es the law,. shim.,
Thrashers in three or four 'countiessereakaftteditery. le existence; he alluded to the representation Of the die a natural death atthe tin* stated;.
serious outrages. Yet the Government of, that day, Magistrates on which the Act had been carried.into to be considered ppon this polist sew
by a perseverance in eiticAiiil the la* of. the land, execution in the; barony of Middlethird. That re-
tweenthe begisosing of February sir'
and refusing to sanation, any. serneonstitutional met- -
,preseatation was signed 'by UM' Llandaff and forty : renewing the Property Tax Act, if i,
sures, were enabled to put en end to the outrages other Magistrates, end the Resolutions were Stated were to beellowed, sufficient time w
and to punish the diatnrbeis; the Right Honourable to be taken in consequence of the numerous murders_ discussion o.ect. Befetir.-tEe House
and deliberation upon
Gentleman had. ot,. he was aure, stated'eeltat he did committed in that barony. The Right Hon. Goo. ,geortant sulij'
not himself believe tO,exiits; hot be Ought to have tleman had stated, that he had no doubt the fitegitie Into a Cemlettitee fteiNferpkef
.of
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enquired more strictly !nto' the state of Ireland trates wished for, the Insurrection Act, as it give' a the public money,, whoked.ooce,
fore giving credit to t inierepreleotetioas. •Tbere them more power and less trouble than the ordinary
,:to ithe eligagementlie
,itli Foreign F
was nethiss4 so injurious to Ireland 94 to, bavelt be. emelt', of their duties. Bat it ought to be recol- trite under the ex .;-,,, sanction of ..
lime' in Great Britain, that a disposition to distur. lected in the ease of the Peace Preservation Act, that . twine' otllobie , Wittier wer i
bance existed in 1 hat country. Ae the . time of the the application came from the parties who bad to eagt :0 • tele•frirellettyrilere.leettla
Union it was held out as one of the advantages which for it; and he thought be might fairly set of the". tiiii, rto mgdes abroo bon got
would result from ,hat measure,, that the overflowing Recuniary interest against their power,
mut the .-ex. ~Atileutteer their de% is mot transeniee,
capital of England would find its *ay to Ireland and ponces as sufficient to oompensate for their crow gigements; ,or if they beebenot ignorant, and kept
give life to the industry of that country. lie did not, want of activity. He might also refer to thipretty lrarlmen,t in thedark, upon such nielneatoge- 'll
know what might have,been the'case had Ireland al. unanimous support which the Peace Preservation Act ‘`lko Gevetnineteiltethe see, chargeable with an
ways been in a statiofcom_plete tranquillity; but he had received from both sides of the House, Tfte. still more usesatifiabide. Prom what he +Mr: .
knew well that little or no English capital had been in. Member for Dublinsaid that it was moderate, and bread) had stated, and proved on a forme/44'00%i-,
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vested in behind sine, the Union ; and he wastwr- that its provisions were and salutary ; and time appeared that the !Joule,ed coessequ.eeek or iio 4
informationi. had actually voted an enormous seta el
twin that this would never take place while . Ireland was not one Irish Member who did not expiessrbit-
was 'supposed, by the csipitaliets of England, t 9 be cordial concurrence with it. The jeight Hon. Gent roey, in direct opposition to a solemn treaty. •k,ile
in such a state as to resider; any capital
. placed there damn had drawn au contrast between the conduct o. a happy -to have, it now to ts.power,(o.B6 f
insecure. The. Right Irettourable Gentleman, had the present Government and the Government of .`See further irsformption ppeen thestesjece oflese
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been deceived by repretieutaiiiihr..from • treleade!-- 1806, who ware firmly determined' to 'persevere inlet sidy girete to • eieleex. tteipable her, to catil,,eA,T
Many would, itedtitihtt be made to Mm from the .etiforcing the law, of the land. He might be mis- at aglinsteilefliega or the very nicome* *hew**
meanest motiedn.from.moeives of inteoess4 by:holes take. bat he had been informed that an Insurrec....had entered into
one of the. molt' Seirtrili' OW,
IQ carry objects*, their own by such misrepresents- tfOir`l3l.ll had been prepared in 1807 with the iiitets. wientrliith,flie 44 tfiNaplee, to ~preseeTe Vle.
liens. liongnolia with the store conOdetbas on-441, 10.4 being immediately carried through' Peril... the undisturbed. poseeision .of , his , 4fordoinsi hies,
'ealttec4. &Patn he had seen a great 40 of 04 is *anent; and that this Bill had been found by the Duke piecing ourselves in this singoler situation,. )hat
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1806. The RightlionourobleGentleman, nod is ei Wellington in, the Secretary's Office, prepared by were supplying money to one Power to. destosystes
would think he had done-, great, deal of .good; I his -predecessor Mr. Elliot, with the
,intention of othet:p, which other We had hound ourtelree by *Teti
certainly .would not condone the
..moteres by which being introduced to Parliament. lie fully concurred''XiesueinotirPooer to 4044 In the pteeious4',,
hi seemed tO'fia eituated ;,enCin one lostiteg. the, mithilse•Right Hon. Gentleman in opinion that there cuesioe apes this questiowi he had read to the flews'
.I{l6l nog!: Oentletrian deserved his commenaio. could not be a more flagitious abuse of power, than.. a copy of Loret•Witelern.llenifliCk's Letter, and
Ate had done the ireetest service when he refused toed .if. Government sought to extend its influence by now begged :Lts plithe 'attention. of the ',ousel() cete
pentane to officiate under this Bill ; for that 41410, thu Aid. He cquld not conceive a greater abuse of t tainsery aelniesifible chtemitincee . that took plue
,persenswho were anxious for such appointelee*Ariti the authority entrusted 'to them by the House, than at Chatill'Ob.„'%A pacification was there proposed on
but too numerous in Ireland. The" Bill had certainly if they bad attended to local representations in the the part of lens, who was-still at the head of
done good applied es it had • been done, and not as appointment of Magistretei ; and he should hereaf. the Fretieb' poi ire; by which 'several arrangements
many persons thought it would be at the time when k ter willingly submit to te, visited with the severest for the ,kingdom of Italy were suggested, sad,
was passedeThey thought It would be a good thing frir puoishment, if he hulks )ono single ' instance con. among others, Bonaparte was to decide the fate Of
themselves and thetr Mendel,. but the Government , sentedto such an abuse:' we Keel. Gentleman were the Papal dominions, and of the Kingdom if Ai, 1
bad shown them thiothe,onlyAnd of the Act was to I fit in other respects foe the aPpointment, the circuni. pies. To this proposition the Allied Powers austere
.put an end to disturbances. Now he dared to my, stance of his connection woeld-atone.be a
.sufficient e.. 1, that in the aflairiluf Italy; France could not be,
that the Eight floysourable.Gentlentan bad been soli. objection against him. With respect. to 'the In- dlitswed to interfere, es,it. had. been already deteMo
cited by many repfeset4tioossfsone many imparters to , , in surrection Act, a representation had.bein .ade to,.thined by Treaty that the.Nespeliton dominions well!'
put the other Act in force; becatiselie. ltelb, there 1 have it carried into force, but the toed Lieutenant' to be guaranteed to their present Sovereign ; the ese
was no end to representations front persona in cer- i did not think proper to entrust the magiatittes with , press stipulation was, that the four Allied Soteee'
. tale counties to put the insurrection Act in force ; , such. omissive powers. The most indubitable eel.: reigns had consented to guarantee his dominions to t
but the Government of that day positively refusedme device would be re/phi/if before the Lord Lieutenant . Joachim, on the conditioner- stated ht. the Treaty ate
put it in force. He knew their motives• well, and., could consent to decletb u whole dialect.% idistort.,;:tered_info between -.Elm of. AOstria ind.ti.
titit
how much more desirous they were to have unaon-',ed state. It must be shown that such is the state of King or. NelAk . I ',an eht ti ' 'Olt Treaty:mei
stitutional powers entrusted to them then to discharge, Ireland, that the laws cannot be carried into effect ceived thOteloet:n f 'the PienfpOtentitiries, an&' .11'
their duty under the existing laws. This last ease from combination of a sanguiaary Weis. When he course, of the ieter from this country. Besides
was what they all wished for, end the Right Hon. introduced the Insurrection Acet.be bad distinctly • this connotation, the Honolirable Member was is
Gentleman must have had experience enough of this. stated, that nothing but thei gleeit,eltiCitled necessity -Posseesion•.of some other crciesunstances of not leis
He knew, however, that nothing would 'be so juju- could ever induce the Geofeemilemot tiesserry it into: importance.. It was known tint at Leghorn a P.M,
dons to the lower orders in Ireland as putting that execution. He did not. knew:Ws 1011.'0' exactly in demotion had been published by the' Aeglo•Siceia.,
law iu force. The religious differences which nit-. order when he alluded to a iitilltia Okla had been Forces, 'ill whichekeenns.declared titihthe• army of
Imlay existed in Ireland,.extited a wish in many ,I made elsewhere. - ere .1 Ferdinand had jentlettlete theeporpeste,piponmeile
Magistrates to pat the Insurrection Bill in force; Mr. HORNER observed, that luly eiinsiii&lo. Me ancient thitalstfikl4. wtNiisoverelrioPrie.
bet this would be to deliver up the catholic • pea, gutsy, . , what passed in another 'Home, was evidently itie.-',.this instrument haeLoccasioned some eh" • es
sentry to the absolute power of Orange Magis. ! oar. . littler was sent,;teqatieed William Hepatitis., wrilthq
beta. As to the provisions of. the Bill, he would • The SPEAKER ;taw met it was an invariable Jet was *asserted, by Lord Caellereath- 'upon thelig,,
not oppose them • but he was persuaded that die /Hs- [rule, that no Member should . .... ,leinteeti of thw'Prohlemotion alluded' to, in erderie
advert to propene . ~„,. • • . • ,
,terbeaces might be put sowed to without this extra- ! • • r_ El., . . •
ril fernOVellie OriVOMPIOIMPreSSiOII iti WaptiNkr
I lugs in another place. • .. ~
ordinary measure. . , .„ , toproduce. It' com me • ' .
. .
. ' Mr. PEELE was ors libellous would feel that t. imidied• PEEI-41 "id, he tad,' laid ''etatiniSlitti - "l'd' by exPrl°44Piiii°4ll.*
to. this authority, which he would not ntt pt
Y oishment and regret at the inhttligence lettiarAF .
L wee absolutely nemetestv pier him to trespass on
*evade by any reference h t llconcluded
.nteet .taljb the high disapprobation
iothe cowl a
fpfert . tiiinsmitted to hint' iltiCh • omit,' 'aa I''l
Ate
tr
attention in noticing some of the obserrationgi t°
Wight lion. Gentleman who had just
wi. .11e. certainly rose seder some disadvantage's.: w a ever. e
144,1 with stating, that he had framed a clause to meet the • ... ,
wishes of a Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. New
which the provisions of the Act might be extended .• Naples :it requested
.that Lerd-1 tn. 'Bentia
swooreusitdmaintiacakteent:ythirieliairnigtillafrGerKepleiernawbtohdrt
liw Apt 'Mel don. Gentleman had chosen to reply IbY
•:,to any part or plias of a county, the same Malliatir
MI Ow which he (Mr. Peels) had delivered three to ask whether his Majesty wag ilitiefieti. ieithnthe leo
r- as to be reeks. - •
Ormilfai igo. .The Right Hon. Gentleman had fore .. ,ut ~
.. ,•idemnity that had been offered to Wine if rietiaomp:
gottan else sobstooco of the statements which he then', Mr. PONSOSat and Mr. 111/ .aelyarallit U. ~were placed upon the terms of the Preclamation. 'ee'l"
made. He had been accused by him, of giving as 'Peieed• . '
, . . enures the King of Naples would be compelled ter
."'e
exaggerated description of the state of Ireland, ofi 'Sir JOAN NIMPORT maintainedl. thae;ehe In- . think of employing his own means, being dependent
having been deceived himself, and been the means surrectlon 'Act was a revival of the old Nor man law, uponhimself alone ; that England' had •made such ....
or deceiving others, in having represented Ireland to lot to be justified but by extreme necessity. . Whet. ' engagements with the Kies •of Naples as rendered a; ,
be in a state of general insubordination. The state- ever might be done with the Peace Preservation Bill' strict adherence to the sertmeneceisery, and that ses'
merit which he had made waidlyectly the • reverse of the Insurrection 'Act ought,like the Mutiny OW, to though she had not entered' iuto a solemn treaty,
be weal. lie admitted that the execution of. the . had-been omittedonly from motives of delicecylo • '
this., In what he said there was no imputation against
the general population; he had slated, that as it re- Peace Preservation Bill in the barony of Middle-.' Ring* fetwiliriand of Sicily ; but that if the king of •,.
quired an application to the Lord Lieutenant before third had been attended with beneficial- consequences . Sicift:sfitsuldl deem it more advi'able to thwart the
viewe of the British Government,
.by making an at.
the Act could be pat in any case into execution,„,it beyond that district.
tack Open the dominions of tit Kin of Naples, in
was only net essary for him topeuvethat cortein
,pegs , a
HORNER admitted that the Peace Prefers'. l'
Bill
might he
I,
useful
Tonsore. but irolight.not • such a case. the
andKr.,isig
if Ireland were in,s,uch a stele. ei to call for such ...r.
. ....,,t,,,,,..t.,:e.,„Kferntghe,orsfeNtfacpallectleguapinorsit t
of
,Sicily. must act upon hiceo.
'.Rill. Ile had stated ,that two or three eitiraj; est
Ireland were in such a kite that ifie ',
' : • Own acceint zit land '
Wm: Nl* eenfeeeded Ali that. feutrrection Act, whish,: ,g having granted an indeme
. i „ "Xi unconstitutio;ll7nd unjustifiable.
could not be executed in them. flu had stated ,ar. W
that he iris inundated himself with represents. • ' W.I. P. GRA Ablisetelisepprove of theatoro AL
.c- - uvserilltoil Clint thelting. of Sicily might determitre to
time front different parts of Ireland, but that moderate of theiltoidliffieres, '
: t eottnuit. • Hear • hear I .
~ A .-4;e5.,5,100.,.,• •.; , f CoOltreigb, 'and. that it spoke the la el
, , hear .j The House N
he ...vas willing to make a proper allowance for li4ies ihea, .4mi
tiliiiiisi4Sil slicold bsil . 4 . h..-
MI a ____r ,iss• mend thet the letter was written by Lord
Os ampahousious of Gentlemen who recollected third time to.morfow .1116"'41-` any
nogng javgee acti Ivor
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that the Bight Honourable Gentleman had wilfully the period of 1798, and seeme
misrepresented the state of Ireland to the House ; more importance to the circumst
but he believed that he had given credit to the toisre. ,them than he ititteltilid ;an
presentatioß? -40 r 6 . ?. 6 1114bin...elmfi .
he'' is
qUiring lato'the Ira ' o ,' o( 're e• 14 ft• he ' to to whil
menti.:4l;harettt o. abl tei, _ _ all' - d` ire If 1 . no•ii: sway,
repr a • f rattetts",!utt.',W mei . • n't • . to Coe
ist i:trZnd, a general nsecurity, and ; general wee los* by the Proud Jury
disposiriewto.combine for unlawful r dal. At rAtifle inserrtoloo Act.. An e
the trine WI; siatimenrwia , It'llif 'Ai. Wore made troth iho
with no small de/red Of ••ssrp4sq: ee hvOokir W ,_,.;:ookar tP Ike Loa Lieutreant
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