The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-12-08 00:00:00

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DI[OII THE DUBLIN EVENING POET, DEC. 4.]
A sew feature is beginning to develops itself in
the South of Ireland, the appearance of which, we
bail with incased satisfaction, and which, we
Imagine, will be welcomed by every friend to the peace
et Ai Country with equal pleasure, We allude to
the manifestations now made in Waterford, Clare,
/Wry, Cork, Tipperary, sad even Limerick itself, by
the Resident Gentry in those counties,to confederate,—
for the purpose of restoring those districts to tran-
trinity.
We are sorry to perceive, however; that in several
of the Resolutions the gentry are loudly calling out
for the Insurrection Act. It would, perhaps, be un-
fair to speak very severely of them for this. In
estimating their conduct we should, as far as pos-
sible, put ourselves in their situations. If we
lived in the centre of a volcanic country—if we
felt the ground rock under our feet, and saw the
streams pouring from various directions to our doors we
should, very naturally, apprehend a general convulsion
that might threaten ruin to ns all. In such circum-
stances we should not be very solicitous as to the
means of escape. We should take the shortest and
most direct road to avoid the eruption, and we should
be inclined, perhaps, to deride these who told us
that the ordinary bounds and fences would be amply
sufficient to protect us from the inundation which
had surpassed already in its frightful career so many
impediments. It must be acknowledged, that the
analogy is but too correct with regard to the state
of Monster. Law, human and divine, appears to be set
at nought—murders have been done in the olden time,
but they were solitary and far between. Assassination
never appears before to have been formed into a system.
To deprive a human being of life was, heretofore, the
last resource of hatred and desperation ; it now appears
almost one of the principles of the insurgents.
,at least, seems to be the sentiment in Munster at
ptisent—a sentiment but too amply justified by the oc-
currences which have taken place in four of the southern
'counties. We cannot be surpriied, therefore, however,
we may deplore, the demands of the Munster Gentlemen
for the Insurrection Act. The Constitution, we main-
tain, would have been sufficient to avert the evil at its

_.....seasent, bat the powers of the Constitution were
not put into action by the resident Magistracy, and they
seem now to be persuaded that it is too late to have re-
,_course to theme' They, therefore, call for the re-enact-
ment of this terrible law. They may have it, but we
feel as satisfied as that the sun shines, that the insurrec-
tion Act alone will not do now.
Why not, it will he asked, it was sufficient formerly
why should it not .be found equally efficient now ? It
mfficient
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; to 85 ;
.5. The
rlce and
ground
rural pro-
second,
suppost.
rdes, al-
coo often
lers not
sometimes to share in their feelings, and to parti-
cipate in their interests. They necessarily possessed
and they exercised an influence over them. It was,
in some instances, the influence of terror—in some,
perhaps, it arose from a community of feeling. But,
whatever was the source, the influence, beyond a doubt,
was exerted. The Middlemen are almost entirely
swept away. The fourth class went first, the third
next, the second are now going rapidly into ruin—
and there will soon he hut one between the landlord
and the tenant—perhaps, in many instances, not even
one. This is a comsunimation which Patriots formerly
desired—and, we do admit, it is a consummation most
devoutly to be wished for in the abstract. Bat the
cusses which are producing this Revolution in the ad.
ministrati 'n of Landed property, are the very causes of
the present insurrection. These causes are the rapid
decline of a quarter of wheat from 130 shillings to
49, and under. In sending away the Middlemen,
some of the checks which operated upon the fears or
hopes of the Peasantry, have been swept away along
with them. Those persons who were, heretofore, in
hostile contact with the poor, arc now poor themselves.
—They participate in the feelings of the poor ;
they participate in their plans. The Middlemen,
of the fourth and third degrees, have now no
interest separable from those of the lowest of the
Peasantry. Their feelings may, naturally, be sup-
posed to be still more exascerbated, Most of them
have been reduced from comparative comfort and
competence to the extreme of poverty. The
late regulation between landlord and tenant
which transfers to the Quarter Sessions the business
which, heretofore, should be transacted in the Courts
above—which simplified the process of ejectment
and distress, and reduced a tedious, but wise routine
of forms, into a short and summary execution—
snaking Justices of the Peace, instead of Judges of
the Land, the last resort between Landlord and
Tenant. This pernicious Law accomplished, in two
seasons, or three, what the natural operation of the
times would not have achieved for live or six. It had
the effect of sending the small farmers away, one
after another. The Lands were then put up to the
best bidders. Character was a secondary object, when
execution could be so speedily obtained. It was little
regarded. We speak, of course, generally. If the
man was not forthcoming on the next Gale day, he
had the Corn in his Haggard, and the Sheep in his
Field. The process would reach them instantly, and
it was seldom stayed. Thus has the operation of this
Law accelerated the crisis, which is, beyond all doubt,
coming on, and which the working of events would
have caused in the end—but which, without this Law,
we are satisfied, would not be marked by the terrible
characteristics which have rendered it so hideous.—
To sum up there were some gradations, heretofore,
betsma.likt Rich and the Poor—there is now scarcely
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road to Munster, will be In our opinion, quite as decisive•
The very character of such aComtnission is initi favour
as well as the character of the venerable persons who
compose it. They proceed armed with Constitutional
?owers, and they are free from the passions, the rash-
ness, or the terrors which must influence the resident
Magistracy, to whom the Insurrection Act would give
such formidable powers. They, at least, will act with
greater discrimination and justice. The Magistrates on
the contrary, would be made, by this formidable mea-
sure, in some respect, Judges in their own cause. It is
a servile war. Well, you arm the Gentry with powers tO,l
tramport their serfs without the intervention of a Jury.
This is wrong in principle. " But it has worked well."
Granting this for the sake of the argument, though we
shall take leave to deny the fact—it will not work well.
Scores and hundreds may be sent across the sra, but if
you sent thousands (and fifty perhaps will be the greatest
number that will go) you will not be enabled to ling-
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ment the incomes of your estates, or to live in quiet.
Millions remain behind, and must remain. They must
be supported. God and nature say that they shall not
starve, and your estates can scarcely now pay for the
price of the labour expended in their cultivation—taking
that price even at the Irish estimate of labour. Try the
Insurrection Act. We tell you, emphatically, it will
fail. It must. The frightful Population of the Country,
and the frightful amount of the debt, have written this
truth in marble.

But you are beseeched not to make reductions, lest your
generosity should be attributed to terror. This is the ex-I
treme of fatuity. The reductions are already virtually
made. In spite of yourselves the rents, before this day
twelvemonth, must be, take them generally, what they
were forty years ago. Reductions, indeed, by way of ,
boon !—such reductions were never. made in Ireland.
Necessity is upon ye, and to necessity you must submit.
Would it not, therefore, be better to accommodate
your differences—this is a phrase, no doubt, hard to
be stomached, but it must be gulped down—would it
not, after justice be done on the immediate agents of
the present Insurrection, and the Judges, without the
Insurrection Act, will cause that justice to be done—
would it not be better, we say, to enter into an amica-
ble arrangement with " your poor people," than to
continue a war without object or aim ? There must
be general balance of accounts. You must open new
ones—you must clear off the old score—you must turn
.over a new leaf, if you wish to live in Ireland—and, if
you leave it, out of Ireland, be assured, you can get
little rents hereafter.
There is another point, also, to which the Landed
Proprietors must direct their attention—we mean the
modification of the tithe system. The system must be
thoroughly reformed before the tranquility of Ireland
can be fixed on a sound or permanent basis; but, upon
this subject, we shall have much to say.
It is really astoni -
do not see what it bei
convinced how utterl'

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evil, of which they shi
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CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, DEc.
[The following is a brief sketch of the ordel-,'"or ra-
ther the disorder of the proceedings in the course of
the dep.]
The Keeper of the Seals laid before the Chamber
two projets of law relative to the prosecution of crimes
committed by the Press and by other means of publica-
tion. The object of these projets is.to continue the
two Acts (one of the 31st 'March, 1820, an►i other
of the 26th July, lS21) to the end of the Scissions of
1826. The Minister, in a long speech, discussed the
provisions, article by article, giving reasons as lie
went, for such amendments, verbal or substantial, as
he intended to propose.
The reading of the 6th Article which protects " the
independence of divers persons invested with a public
character," excited murmurs.

In stating the substance of the Article which
punishes outrages committed by words, gestures, and
threats against the Repositories of authority, or of the
public force in the exercise of their functiots, or on
account of that exercise, expressed himself as follows
—" It is painful to reflect that some members of this
Chamber have been several ways insulted, or menaced
by tumultuous assemblies."
A great number of voices on the kJ?, "lAh, IA!
You admit it them:" 1,
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The Keeper of the Seals repeated his phrase.
M. Benjamin Constant.—Yes, insulted, and by
yourself.
The Keeper of tire Seals obsorved that the Courts,adher-
int to the letter of the law, determined that Members of
the Chambers were nut comprised under the desigsadoe
of Magistrates, or Persons invested with public Ibtimi
rity. The Minister entered into a long discuuioa 4
the Liberty of the Press, in which he entleavonred to
show that the groundlessnees of the opinion that till
freedom of publication should be permitted in every in-
stance where a representative Government was esta-
blished. He concluded by saying that such was the
subject of his projet, which was to continue the above
mentioned laws for five years longer.
GEN. Pov—W hy not for an age?
M. BOONE DE FATE—III five years you will set be
here.
M. Culler ascended the tribune to read the piA, t*.
but his voice was weak and ttetpulop.
Several Voices—Under !
A Voi&—Moreboldlyl
M. Mechin—Have respect for thi aufferlng of M.
teak efforts to make

being finished,
' conversation between
sides of the Hew,

against the provision
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for continuing the Censure, and aghinat the Ministers
generally, as *wed in our other columns.
The Keeper of the Seals followed Mm, bat in conse-
quence of an interruption from the left side, followed
by the greatest confusion, be retired to his seat. The
tumult Increasing, and several Members claiming the
right to speak, the President was obliged to interfere
with some degree of violence.
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" THE BEITISM STATESMAN" IS INCOMPOSATED lynx TIIII
STATESMAN."

LONDON:
SATURDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 8, 1821.

STOCK EXCHANGE, TWELVE O'CLOCK.
Consols opened this morning at 771 sellers, and
now they are buyers with very little business, doing.

Several files of American papers have been received
*hi% morning. Those from Boston are the latest.
They are dated the 12th of November.

[FROM THE PHILADELPHIA NATIONAL GAZLTTE,NOV. 13.]
We have in our hands two numbers (one 7th Sept.

Let toot pinto be given lo men who have already
ruined the nation, and woad -ruin it again if antho-
sity were left or entrusted ii. their bands."
.
Extract of a letter from Washington, Nov. 6:—
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.Preparations are making here for tt.e meeting ,of Con-
gress, which will be iitAess,thitta a. metsib. Tli:;rand
electioneering e g
as kidiiglito it is sielki„Vt sirpzened, as
soon after the mlli liWrd, for feeling
.4iti
the pulse of the bleinbere 4,:teieijea,..xtporsion of
IRO
whom are new ones. The prominent eiticii 1
the next Presidency now spoken of, being on t
a pretty active canvass is expected. No one has any
idea of a Congressional canvass. It would damn any
calve which shoulC...dopt one. Of coarse the indivi-
dual exertions must Mktire greater, and the canto." .
begin the earlier. It is Otimated that ezi.
incumbents in office, some 's/ ,whom havii -la.,
c..:
tive appointments from fifteen to thirty.years, wilt be
i invitd to fold up their .17Otes and retire with decency.
The President, it is suggested, wilt readily hearken to
the general voice, when assertained from the members.
If there are honours and emoluments they ought to be
shared by the community.
Extract of a letter from the Havaunah, dated Oc-
tober 16 :

There were some disturbances in the election in la
Salmi, (outside the gates), and the troops charged with
ball, preparatory to resist, or rather put down popular
commotion. Three weeks the election was going on,
but now it is over. Mexico is convulsed. There is no
doubt but that kingdom will beindependent, and Puerto
Rico will soon follow ; bat we shall out.

tected from

At a late hour last night arrived the usual sets of
Paris papers of *Key, Monday, and Tuesday, tope-
thee with a Moniteur of Wednesday. This morning the
other paperrof Wednesday hive reached us. The Cham-
bers have not been dissolved, nor have the Ministers`re=
signed ; and the struggle between the conflicting par-
ties conflate» with unabated vivacity. On Monday a
new projet of law was presented, which produced an
extremely animated debate, and gave occasion for a
di‘ ision on a point no otherwise important, than in
showing that the coalition between the Ultras and the
Liberals still subsists, and has a second time defeated

the Ministers. 4.The chief attack on Ministers was
made by an Ultmi-royalist, M. Delalot, who charged
them with -poisoning the Royal ear, with perfidy
and with calumny of the Chamber; and his charges
were energetically re-echned from all sides of the

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" The object of this Article, - says the speaker, " isle
distinguish the vile libelist who breathes nought bet
.ruarchy and drestruction.„„Vtiz the oeolir4eoas chins,
the laitkful subject, who ~tones only limo /motives of
duty and the public interest, and who, in censuring,
proves his The
projet places

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or symbols
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moots averiiyAl and 'imprisonment, I a
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years.
The otp,Srp ro jet of law that was' presented relative
jerto#o... fy of the Press, was fur continuing is
.!.6468211 subu:titittictroa3rlnsathMaanrtichperiod, 18201e,stanpdo2bsfoloolt July,
to the Censire, till the end of the Session of 1816.4.,,
The siateclswof the Minister upun these projets of law,
and the reading of them, were followed by a eel
stormy attempt to enter into discussion upon the sob.
jest, which is forbidden by the rulesif the Chamber.
till they have passed the Committees. Scarcely any of
the speakers were allowed to finish, and on a division,
in which the Ultras and the Liberals voted together.
the proposal of the President to proceed immediately
to the consideration of the Budget tees rejected. and
it was decided that the Budget ;horld not be tnneked
till after the Bureaux had beenveavecti. The likPn•
ties know that as long as they keep the puree strings
of the nation in their hands, the Ministers ate at tht
mercy ; it is not astonishing therefore that they sbou).l
not be disposed to part hastily with a power which
is at this moment the only safeguard of their political

'exigence.
The Paris Papers contain but little intelligence of s
general kind. It is said, however, in an article from
Angsburg, on the authority of letterk from Constanti-
nople, dated Nov. 2, 4' that the Grand Seignior had
caused all Persians found in his capital to be kiwis**
ed." A portion of the Janissaries had been sent( te
Asia tiopfose the invaders, and Tartars laa.l been Ho
Patched hp the Paella who besieged Alia at Joanoies,t.
carry an order for his recall, as the Grand Seignior iq
tended to give him the command of the army actin;
against the Persians, with the Pachalick of Enmas,.
Letters from Smyrna, of the 26th of October, mentionn.
the renewal of massacres in that city. The French
Funds had recovered more •.:n could have been exprel4
under present circumstances. They closed on Tars 4

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when I. 'ada were constantly on the rise—wl
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.1;64 woutpt. ~ }..ri, s, perseverai
i. p; 1.. .11. h tenantry, .6. hp wire, were kept
A.- ,I: , hor thi,incessant ,u.Hatt fur Agricultu
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Tlvae Itilddresien, particularly t etik+st grac
though they were instruments of oppres*t to
I—were, nevertheless, tun near the LoweillArdt

- Da. DiDGLDDSZIS•II iffier .• swa
Cuvier.
1 1 The present is a servile war against Rents. Granted. The Coutasillor of State male
. st; Now the best way to bring this war to a termination, is himself unierspOd.
...• bet, we oonesive, to re-enact the Insurrection Law. This The reading's of the.projeti bei
law, it is very possible, will have an immediate. . ect— • M. Delalot, after Mach violent
i • so far as regards the actual commission of outrage. But tome of the Members of the two
" N - the Spatial Geouniseimsr which will-be soda es the spoke in the strongest laanaer a
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Mall Have 11113C1/ to Say. . -
outrage on a religion, is to comps 4 an c*rage ail •
tonishing that the landed proprietory the other 12th Sept.) of the Brazilian Newspaper,
published at Bahia, and called the Golden Age of all who profess it." In to,pport of the kw, the
is before them, and that they are not
~ 'tzleaker continues, " for, the law which wouldsveage
tterly inefficient the Insurrection Act Brazil. It breaths an ardent constitutional spirit, ..- -1. ' :-.
r the great, the rooted, the permanent . •As outrage when upon an individual only, ooght in li 4
denounces in strong language particular public a: 7.01,41 degree to put,ish it when offered to di„hole
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7 shall have to comglain.
hat there has been a ~t wed -of the ficers, who are accused of expresOng opinions adverse. entislait'inity. AU refleion is, for its ttisciinets . "per. :.
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( London, callorAt ..i: • - . to t , - c•-•.' . , .isoersi; ..bais- :.nd r -.,:',..- 7l•t . Id ‘ attaches the, t their 1..11
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convene "artist* , . ; ~A 4.." o te •, ,
e tit tif *it
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ave they *London • • ? ',t .:, % ...; .1 itifty - ...also twetitioWed with in &Aloe, , pia'
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:o say to this interest in our n ,v.i 41,:. -: . ;10.h
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we
en iiitt most •,. • ' ' .antrage directes . Nests relignit u-
tile King, we hope his Majes , ' - - .... .
..• 41:I"... "` Sept.". ". .971 19:tgoised by the la ws, soci et y does but . rotect itself." The
renal
.., giving signs of the highest sa-
iome. But there is something so sillyt next article is tur the protection of Rstyalty, and declares
it, in the conduct of those persons. that tis
• . ./i.. jactlitical regeneration. It is necessary
punishabfe all attacts tip- the Royal dignity, the .
it to pass without a morelngtbened tbat peiiiiie 41( known proldif and information be rights or the authority of the King, the inviolability d
in bestow upon the subject his day. chosento govern in the remote parts of the Brazils. his person, and the order of succession to' the Threw
. ,__. _,____ .I._ __!___ ..._ ......... .....,.., 1....... ..1......1a. Si '13%.• ..1t;...* esetl.ia Article. " aura the masker. "is lb

s respect for the laws and his loyalty." The
ices und'n the tpecial protection of the laws
authorities, ;pets& ug• Members of the Claw
Drs, and Minioers :if Re' on, who are pr.
ns insult offered by. ord end frodMilt
.entation of their p tjell'stiiiisi trill
including the exhibition • 'els or any sips
Is destined to propagate a spirit of rebellion,'
thersblic peace, are also noticeeliTh e pettish.
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