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LABOUR IN IRELAND.
The Eatl of BLESSING lON ointerved, that there
wts one branch of labour in which the poor of Irelood
might be usefully employed ; it was in the quarries,
where, he conceived, that quantities of stone fur tile
erection of public it orks,titight be obtained at a vouch
cheap r rate than in any other part of the kingdom ;
and be wished to ktiow if any proposition %%ere wade to
Govertunent, whether thatindulgenoomight be granted
to the people of Ireland.
Lord MELVILI.E said, that stone might he oh-
tainad u good in quality, and as cheap, if nut cheaper
elsewhere.
AGRICULTURAL DISTRE4S.
Lord CALTHORPE presented a Petition from sevte
sal Occupiers of Land iu the County of Surfolk.
distresses ander triads the agricnltorists of the king-,
dont laboured, could not be ascribed to any one par-1
ticular cause, and least of all, in his opinion, to the'
operation of the Corn Laws, which tended to do more
mischief than good. During the yisais 1%17, I Nl'4,
and 1,119, no less than three million fin:triers of Corn
had been imported from other eountries ; aml the in-
trosiantiog so much foreign Corr, tinty fru, hos timi,
conntrtr, ftiost hail: had a most injitrio•tr effrrt .011 our
agriculturalists, olio were subject to much greater ex.
pease in growing corn, than the cultivators of other
'soutanes. Yet, he believed, the evil arising- from the
Importation of foreign Corn was slight, compared to
the warehousing s) stem. If this qystent went on; all
the protection intended to be given by the Corn Bill
was done awav, awl this subject he hoped would he
well considered by the Contruittee on the Bill in the
other Noose of Parliament. There was a feeling
among the agricultural classes, which ought to he se-
riously attended to, when among so quiet and useful
a class of people as out agriculturalists, it was most
grievous to find a spirit of murmur, of dis.atisfaction,
and even disaffeelon against the existing state ut
things. His Lordship then presented the petition.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, with regard to the
warelionsing system which was so much condemned
by the Noble Lord, if it was attended with any abases,
they ought to be corrected. The question was, whe-
ther after corn was imported and deposited in ware-
houses, the law upon the subject could be evaded. If
any doubt existed as to that point the question ought
to be investigated. Suppose the law respecting the
warehousing system to be done away, he wished their
Lordships to see what the erect must be. It would
be not tug less than that of impoverishing the com-
merce of the country ; fbr corn intended for importa-
tion into Great I3ri airs would then be warehoused in
other countries, whose inhabitants would thus derive
all the benefit arising out of a trade thus taken away
frosty us. He therefore felt it necessary to enter his
protest against the principle advanced by the Noble

Lord.
The Earl of LIMERICK said, that in one year the
speculations in foreign corn amounted to between
seven and 500,000 quarters ; and he hoped, if the
warehousing system was to be continued, that it
would be under such regulations as should prevent
the great evils that arose from thee speculations.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL explained.
Lord CALTHORPE in reply said, he thought
more security would arise from a fair remunerating
price than any other regulations.
The Earl of DARNLEY sant the distresses of the
farmers arose from the enormous weight of taxation
that pressed on all classes of people, and he protest-
ed against any plan of deluding the country by a hope
that these distresses could be diminished in any other
way, than that of lowering the taxes and paying offl
a large portion of the public debt. It seemed as
if
the fartneis who sent up their petitions thought that
Parliament could alter the nature of things. Ile was'
confident that by a due attention to econ.ntly the
taxes might be greatly lowered; and he could see nil
other mode of relief than that. Nothing, but going
to the root of the evil could ever remedy it.
Lord EI(SKINE thought it was the duty of the
Parliament to enquire into the grievances cumplainedl
of by persons in general ; and it was an insult to chill,
people to tell them that no enquiry should take place.
A Committee would be of great value, if h were oily'
to see whether the distress was so great as bad Iseeh
stated.
The Earl of HARROW BY declared tbot be had al-
-
ways held out the idea that the greatest possible sites

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to be pot down. As long as Mr. Byrne, a most respc ct!
able individual and a Kiug s Conosel, stated the loyal
sentiments by whlcli he was ai.:uated, he had been
heard attetitively ; but the 11103111 M lie sport' .of
grievances, and said anYr thing which. Might be un-
pleasing to his Majesty's Ministers. at that moment
the clamour arose. The lligh Sfieriti was nut appoint-
ed as in this country. lie was nominated by the
Viceroy out of three, which was an improvement
on the originAl mode. Ile was therefore an ollieer
acting entirely moiler the Government, and if lie was
to dictate his sentiments to the people, be (Lord Illes-
sington) might tell his wifortunate country, that it
would be ridiculous in future to assemble to petition
on ally subject. Ti., Noble lE:trl then reproved the
admission of soldiers into the Town 11t11, where the i
Sheriff exercised no authority whatever. Ile bad not
been called to the chair, bat had attempted to take it,
yid when he saw itorcupied hy,Lord Cloneurry, Vail said
he would call the soldiers. Thls be had done, and Lord
Cloacurry had been turned out by an ollicet of the
thiard, politely no doubt, hot still with inostets and
bayonets, which were not very pleasant implements in
. it had beet' said, why if you felt yourselver
in the right did you not defend yourselves? But hail
this been dour, as he (Lord B.) recollected seeing it
take place at the London Opera, where the sons of the
nobility bad disarmed the soldiers, and thrown theht
muskzts into the pit, very serious injury would have
occurred to the public peace.and many lives tiiilht have
been lust. And because no such injury 1:.-A been in-
Witted, fold it follow th.it no wrong had beet) done ? It
might be said that an application ought to be made to
the Courts of Law ; bat a public wrong had been com-
mitted, and Parliament was the place to which com-
plaint should be made. Were damages to be called
for in the Court of King's Bench ? No, tlie people of
rebind had been insulted by the High Sheriff, and
Parliament alone cuttld inquire why he was yet shel-
tered and maintained by Goveenuien..
The Petition was then laid on the table.
PROCEEDINGS AGAINST NAPLES.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose pursuant to
big notice, to call the attention of their Lordships to
the transactions which hail been, and which he feared,
were still carryiug on in the South of Italy. However
strong his personal opinion on tlie subject, be hardly
knew whether he shuuid base had the courage to
introduce a-subject of such importance, if he had not
felt, aftcr what bad passed in that {louse, and in
another place, that he was supported by the universal
sentiments of the people of this country. With that convic-
tion on his mind, he should have thonolit it an otniotion
of duty, if he had not emir:iv-wired to give to 'he general
feeling the ti 30 authentic e‘pression. lie was the more
inclined to do this, when he perceived by the latest ac-
counts front the !lead-quarters of the Allies, that a most
extraordinary delusion still prevailed attoogit them as
to the real sentiments of the British tiov..rtenero. Not-
withstanding the circular written .by the `:erretary for
Foreign affairs, and the explanations given to Conti-
nental Powers, it appeared from the content., of the de- i
daration lately arrived, and of the authenticity of which
no &tufo could be entertained, that up to the moment in
February when it had been issued, the most extraoriiinary
delusion existed, and was announced to the people of the
Continent, respecting the sentiments with which the
proceedings against Naples were viewed by that Ilona
and bs the country. It Was his object, therefore, to
place the opinion of the country awl of the noose lo,•voad
all possibility of doubt. In doing s°, he should avoid as
much as possible recurring to the past rumbler, or rather
omission, 6f his Majesty's Ministers, lie wished to take
no advantage of that, much as he laineuteil that so many
months should have elapsed without their tinditqc it pos-
sible to make Foreign Ministers understood their
motives,--winch as be was surprised that the Secretary for
Foreign Affairs, who was personally acquainted with
those Ministers, should also have been unable to make
them comprehend the views of this country, but should
on the contrary have led them into a total misappre-
hension of them. 'flie only use which he wished to
make of that cirrninstance was to impress upon their.
Lordships the paramount duty which they owed to
themselves and to their country, of uviking known and
publicly embodying their sentiments. lie should first
consider what were the principles which the Allied
Powers had proclain:ed on the present occasion, and
on which they had founded their proceedings ;.,ajitl, in
*the nest Once; what consequences were likely to re-
sift front their acting upon those principles. On thel
outset he NMI 'also state, that in speaking of the
Coeds of Vienna, Berlin, an 4 Petershargb, he Nonni,
no dieresPett tot hose Court, ; neither did the ,object

log, . ii. _ an .
,f he found Lin:self nhored under despotic .
meta Wfrir titt'..:, was no preteition for persons or pt.
',city, hr ronld nit •,v that he might ant look for re%ke
to a sect or :us:vowel:atom EAr.froloo admitting that the
fact of the cxi,tetore of a poiitical sect gave emalber
country the righ. of interferiag, he'sheulol be suptited
if in aUcit at II I,:i.ticti, nc it ithoo; is in despotic. coun-
try,to o imp r, ;new cool.' hi made. lie sect of tho
l'aidoonari,throoleh •le•eril.e4 as of a recent bellies, was
really of anei.nt fiat'. It might be traced nuke the
IMMO vi Chi I IlleMieri to the influence of the Emperor
lAmpolli when in Italy. It had afterwards received the
proftectfou of 'hose Powers Who a isited to oppose the
progres: of Ole ]Tench in that country. Al that pe-
riod the sect of the Carbonari was considered lto
Austria sod Or other sovereigns as a taost useful an:A
unexceptionable teapot.. Yet the share which that sect
was stated to hare had in effecting the late change, was
now put forward by tio: ilovernmeoe of Austria is j vit.
&lent pretend for its isterfeernee. Bet it irritated that
it was Plot only a political nowt; it was also 674
with working its the dark : This was inde a
most extcJorolinary charge in a country ithere the
lent public art woold have brought down
the whole yet. ,eance of the ' t loverument '.--
W3I It wit twee., ark that theialseetti work in seeveiy.
if they wished to incur the lomat chance of alieccss
The declaration then described the new Usreernment
in dark and false colours, -whilst it represented thnt
which had been chaw4wil as the most paternal of ,1.1
Hoyernments, constantly - endeavouring to iutrotkee
essential improvements into all the branches of that
Administration.- The first effect of these iesoprore-
meots was repoesented to hate bees that of stoppio4
all the proceedings of live ('arbonari. But a mare
probable reason might he adduced for this suspension
on their pa,t. It was this : (luring the first fuer or
Ave years an Austrian artily had been in possession of
the country. Whatever improvement might have been
intrxtuced, there had been none in the revision of the
taxes, which bore hard on the people. The pressure of
the taxation imposed during the war, and continued
alter its termination, was the great grievance which hod
contributed to rouse the nation. There was besides no
enjoyment of personal safety. lie spoke confidently on
that subject, for he spoke from his own knowledge,
and from that of others, on whom he could Itnpli-
silly rely. He would state to their Lordships an in-
stance of the personal safety which was enjoyed
undcr the late Governrueut of Naples.. Four or five
years ago, there was great distress, approaching
to famine, in that country, and a Minister of
the Crown at the same time had • share in the mo-
nopoly of Corn. it happened that an English Gene-
ral officer livi.ll then in Naples, and be bad an appli-
cation made to hint (corn a quart& to 'which he was
-bound, front a :itiotyledge of the person, to pay atter,-
ii.m, to COille and skit a person who May in great dis-
tress. The En;.-.l.isman, for the vision stated, lost no
time in complying with the request, ant) Le was di-
rected to a prisoii, where he found Litt friend in a den-
'son half-filled with water. Ili had Jame them fir
some time, tott the reason of his *cotton he Was vt-
teay at a loss to conceive—he was. conscious of no of-
fence against the Sta:e, and the only thing which oc-
curred to him as at all likely to lead to Ibis outrage on
his peruse, was a conversation which he recollected
to have had with a friend some time prei,iously, *hoot
disposing of some corn which lay oa his hands. 'to
this trivial circumstance, and this alone, he attributed
his imprisonment, and he judged rightly that the EA-
ofmolising Minister was connected with it. Varnished
with this c'ye, the P.riglisis offieer„.fieiiirred himself ;
he went without delay to' the Miaistersoluestionci
him as to the fact—received at first mi puha answer.
but woe at length told plainly, by tlto candid Italian.
that he had no share in seadias the Iheritissioir pri.
son. What did he then d 1? Bo ttledlof lb Ibb rd.
son, and learoed from die polo*, A** Flow
Ajpolik
was in fact confined by ardor of * Eint... .
he returned to .the oillyer's. how, ibeW peg See
daitete
:Lim Ihr saw his secretary, honntefri, : itis biter
confirmed the information ette4g4 • le.—.
lie learned, too, that his f . . sil for
any crime, bat simply became -*hada,
have him in a place of Wet, .' : Alitubl .4.dkit
with him. The lifeatiolitaa Vkas .. rdelldWit lar
the iaterference -of bli ineitlb •Ilicollt be tlrea
4) could not say. liow hog ha Itatilitli .osieset
.Was this a state of Wag, ip. beetn• Of Wel/
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IMP ERIA LPA R tiamsivr. tiers should be paid to the distresses of the people, and whilst govein:ug their emu territories, to their set • . •
Early meld Week-with Two Cuts -" Crowning" and be ironic' most readily agree to any motion for the ap- that part which beccase great Porters., and orb
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HOUSE OF LORDS.-Fatelv, 'kitsch 2. pointment of a Committee. But what lie wished to state they hid occasioneilv done to advantage; ileeatiml RIF
lI[ONE's RIGHT DIVINE OF KINGS TO was, that it would be Vogt mischievone to hold out the principles on which such guveiumente were firmed,
GOYERN IVRONG. . el
Tlia Annual Indemnity Bill was read a third time, p of relief which could never be realizes'.
were such as be could out approve, he did not wish to
"A earl of DONOUIaIMORE said the farming part
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------s apd 'passed. interfere with their i•iternal administration. For' he •
____...------._ of Ireland was in a most melancholy s. ate of depression;
HOGARTH'S ORIGINAL PLATES. 1 Mr. Mason, from the India House, brought up Ctrs 4' .
the pasta.ving part was not so haul ; the subject ought well knew that the u..• are of human affairs empire,' e••
'Ns aay was . published. prier to Subscribers, lf. Is. tain Acconnts relative to the trade between India and to be eertously considered ; hot lie should do injury to the existence of 'l'll...rem oorrrnnients. He well ;ciao,
No. XII. of China. the Irish farmers if be,could hold out to them any pros- it, the ((milieu, &mew., a the rittoeh ue, elution, wgen
THEORIGINAL and GENUINE WORKS of . IttiMAN CATHOLICS. • one of the wild tire ::us of ;hoar wen niisr:tmed philo-
WILLIAM VIDOARTII. from the Plates lately ie The Bishop of.6IIEiTER preeenterl a Petition fient CALTHORPE presented another Petitioniso the
Peell:rifi immediate relief. -
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the of Messrs. Boyden end others; engraved by the Clergy of ljeilehesiter, against the Ronson Catholic same elite. sopliers, proptemd to redure all govern:•;ents in some-
'ail artists; the whole uuder the superintendence of claims,—Ortlered to lie On the table. The Duke of DEW/NSW KE presented a similar Pe- thing likeutte nr.'.fi.ent ststetn, that such an attempt .9
James E .o. R. A. accompanied by explanations of •
lilies kora. Berkshire. !null fail. IVlseiliu.r it traded t," slake all natiotoi
do vetoes tifNierts hs- The Barra D()NOCOHMORK presented Petitions
LATE OUTRAGE AT KILNIAINHANI. equally tree
.41 elially .sl tree, to es-7tbliels
, - JOHN NICHOLS. Esq. F.A.S. itc. from the Roman Catholics of four Parishes in the City 'l,-. .
• This number contains:- of Dublin, priying for the removal of the disabilities The Datite of LEINSTER presented a Petition from itilitia:(.le2t•telio,;;intieshroiitts? pai.lareg,
,lit. was copyinteel, . 4
Plate T. Strolling Aetnrss drinishig in a Barn. under which they labonted. He then called their certain Freeholders of the County of Dublin to the same e ferfeet• !:1-ied 1-tad'ittend such . i•
T. Taste iii High Life. • Lordships' recollectiun to the notice lie had given on Ake with that presented in the House of Commons by abnnialilett'.liniPll:l
n-it;liya ;irat..nr;teror.,d,,.lielftrliv:lpte.iiiiileiric;utii.pesorfneeelatena *
- - --TIT: Tertriat 44 Martin Folkes, !'sq. lioniJ. linss.ll, mentioning the meeting that took place
standard of Mitearelde-al rrinciples eerie erected, in I
IV. Dos Quixotic, plate 3 and I. a former day, fur bringing forward a motion respect-
at. Kilmainhain on the 30tii of December last, and the
which but few o„rains ntliberty w eresarowetf. This was .it
V. A Country lan-yard. ing the Raises Catholics, on Thursday next ; since
;tat exclusion 0( tbs freeholders front the Court-honer. • .. I,
London : Published by Baldwin, Credos*, an4Joy. that time, a circumstance hail occurrovi its another they had. assembled, by a military force. After bow the only form ef govenottenoviiL:b woo to be tole-
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10„s Toe Wort" tt to consist of about 21! Nowh.e_l'L_^, place, which rave him itason tu hope that the sies- tnelibile read Weer the Potato% his Grace observed that =led. Throe Writ' file ilriac•ipitist which, midi se • I
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sOicli Twelve are now pnblish .ea
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irrnt'sli lion would come before that House in a 31f4pe different there was not the least occailon to have called in the ennsinrnatinn...hr in" 'Ss"! in an do- s,
Fuse p4ses. The publication ;ince or each s . s.
is confer/rite with the original proposals. the prior ef every
' from that which he had at first intended. lie should tnillrnart, for there were ntimerons police officers present, c1ua1.11..l as being is •exar.
mt collptssvith the.prineiples •"-- .
an he Riot Act was not read. It was not bis inten. Ana "t'n'l of she ltrltjclViCel'i? neilf: • " althoeyh pas-
Nutelser is raised to IL bs. at the expinstion of Six Mouths therefore withdraw his notice for the present ; and it
then iJ make any motion on this 2e.. ,
1 tition but merely to Genial. relation: am! mottsel M.fteetell-it' frnm_aartaking
eye date of its respective Publication. Thus the first would depend ou circumstances, whether be ehonti in the filober resoltkiotte of Otte other Courfi.“---it
Sis Nsuebers are now sold at 2.15. each. The manner In . .
wsi".r. Heath has restored the most mitutte lines or bring it forward. lie then moved that the orler for most 01" it be real' W 35 stated in the tltst part d... that. DeclAratioe,' that •
The Petition Lavin been read, a sect existed at N spiv• svhich had been the occasion of
atoseretes peoeil. without mating any variation from. the sumusoning their Lordehips for Thursday next be dis- Tim Earl r ~. . ~. . . • .
o IiLL!sSINt. lON said, that in conic the
mashes of that inimitable Master, has not only given cliargcd.—Ordered. , . the late. change in the tiovernmeut of that conntry.
'pence of his helng more intimately acquainted with
ausendeatisfsetion, bet excited universal surprise. "(hits LAW OF TREASON IN IRELAND. Whether phi: wa 4 trot: or not, het that the cir-
Omits. OM* mitre opportunity to the Admirers of this
Lord HOLLAND moved the second reading of the the airctinistaticee of the ease, he had been requested cilinstatires itei!er wiuich the lat contended bad been
Pander of ft.inriliei, to
at his Worts in a state of per- by the Noble. Duke who had presented the Petition, elfeeied had not :i•
to do teith te Allied Powers, •
fortiori noisily eTtal to that in whit+ he himself left them. Rill for amending the Lye of Treason in Ireland. He
to. state what be knew in its corroboration. The ori- having. all trn plsre interfaith.. No reentry had a
right to interfere.-(Hear, lime: hear! )-Bat a sect, the
ohserved, that lie had at first conceived murder ink re-
TH fun:. NEW Pt lILICATIONS. giniti resolutions not only called upon the meeting to
world were told. " had exi:Ard for many yea, in the
laud amounted to High Treason ; but on lookin at
c.cpress its loy.,lty to the King, but solely to utter scii-
ne Tarte miderinetoionea Important New Works were Ha..kingdom of Naples. trot-kit:Lc in the dark."- -He cer•
the Statute-book, lie found it was not so. The law
tituents agreeable to the Gevertinieut of ibis country ~, , , ,
t•osue ..a..;..ie 66•47.111•5 i Ili isving 111 a country n here be
.-- - -"sal'h'''l he Sir R" "A" PM_ IT'T:ll.s...nft_l:fl was so formerly ; but that law had been repcale I
and all atteuipts at making amendments were of 'course 5h,,,1,1 f..ei ii,"„,,,,,(.„ of a political sect an „I it. Wit
. io_._..- ........r ....met. ;f lip found Lituccif VIACI'd under a .ii"Pdeic thnerit-

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