The Statesman.
London, England, 1814-07-19 00:00:00

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S.copy of their productions. As to what had been
Fetid respecting the very high price of* books, he
repay bell‘itsd that in most cases that hip prite was
the result moth more of oreamenb,tlm ptility—of
trinsic decoration and mere binding than of intrinsic
bobksellers mere tar

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,On thatcfle ',kr. U. GIDDY the order fOr meriti 110 that. too many _. be-
We farther consideration of the Report upon the come rather furniture-brokers than the ministers of
Copy-right Bill was read. - . • literature.—Uleur, hear rj—He had himself nit-
.. Marc. C. W. WYNNE said, that he felt some diffi- • -timed a striking example of this taste. It was noto-
culty upon the subject of this Bill.. At all events be riotts that tke works of Gray might be bought for
could not help expressing his regret' that' no prod.' one shilling; but he had lately seen at a bookseller's
sion was made to prevent any of the Universities_ I work entitled the ".Remains of Gay;' tompre. l•
from selling the- :books with which they might be fur- bending nothing else than ' that autlior's..Comingni.
uished in consequence of the measure. This regret he 'place book, which neither lieNtms-el; nor bis execu- I
Was inducer campress, by tt Stint Which had been tors • Mr, Masan, Vver IthotrAt AstoOthl poistishing.-.1 '
thrown out.ttiat some of the Scotch Universities were , This book, however, wasoost
_whted on superloi 1
: paper, splendidly, bound 'cid jocortitydonahlislied
likely to sell new work's', with a view to apply the
1 tit no less than *evil) gulietis each 'copy. Could it 1
produce•to tlleptirChase. of old and foreign books,
)(Or the supply 'albeit- libraries.. . then be deemed *greet grterande, et-public it justice,
if a bookseller we're puifisillri pang ,c94lled to—mt
Mr. W. DUNDAS bore testimony to the cliarac-.1
:dispose of eleven copies. ofou ,Iseeitit pita • .
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‘471: of the Scdah Universities, asserting the impro;. -;
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bility rsf the intention stated by the learned Gene I Mr. M ARS!' 'mated tbe.esee of sMi.• Flovet, lho., par
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demon.r. - . I was unwilling itv'uttilOgretttelnalblicifitircoriA es. er
•Mi: choKtß spoke in favour ottke; Ushers! ty !'tensive II lot'. f
eneCt•,-.. -p- taiaiugeo. striuh that Giestlemen 'a-
of Dublin. .., . • , . -.. .. : had made, after great espentetbd troutho,". hi'ionse.
Mr. J. l'.. ORANT.obierved,
thaw. appeared e • quence of the addltioftiel..borthen t. which he was '
great hardship woo booksellers. that they should be called, 0 poll. toiebetit bY.Oie.PTOillog lit qvit..Bil I :for -
obliged, to feral. etch to the Publiktibraries 'nil sending dive's copies elbia.collectioe to the public,.
libraries. •.• ; i I TS!' ''. ' r'2 4,. **W" r'l 4"IIF ' 1
Universities the eleven copies meniiertial in the Bill:.
The Learned Gera. sPoke stronglyag laveur of the Mr. CROKERnereceived that alt authors-most be
Universitiet'of Scotland. ,
... . .. ! • " prOndof contributing CO the supply of those great
After a few, words,from Mr. 61111TH;41. CM, .reservoirs of literature, which enabled so many of 1
bridge, . , . - them to write foe, the,pntilic advantage, and their
' Mr. CROIKER proposed a clause which he deem- own credit: Therefore lie could not subscribe to
led necessary to rescue from great inconvenience the the objection urged against the proposed grants to
publishers of. Ireland nod scottood,• namely, to the several.pohlklibraries ; and as to the, boeksel-.
provide that .the delivery of' a copy of any work tet,;lers, tin y could ligt.solfer by those grants, for they
lany- Public Libriry or University in Ireland or ! would always take care to make. 04 consumer or
Scotland, entitled to receive it, should he deemed `purchaser of Ili-Lir books pay every tie Act whiciisthey
equivalent to •a delivery of the, same to Stationers'- • might be subjected. . There was• no reasnn, indeed,
Nall, in London. • • to is pprehaVd iltat theile gent' Alin vaaideftti pm to..
Agreed to. take care of their" owalagerest. . -4
Sir E. BRYDGES gave notice of a motion for to.l Mr. MAR.Siteuplainect, that whim) 'be called the;'
morrow, for an Amendment in the Bill to extend i privilege in question a folic of barbitoitiliiiie4, he
further the period of Copy-right. • !; meant that it otigkeOri lit times 41.,ecriVevorirablie
'A ierbel alteration was made in the Bill, upon' to' prOperty or liberti, namely', in the .
the motion of Sir J. MACKINTOSH, with regard Uharles 11. and .was,' he belived, an actlfariiait 'Aoh
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to the Scotch Universities. I and police to rev/train the 'liberty of the ;trek
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' Mr. C. W. Vir YIST NE spoke against the delivery ' S4r.EGEItTON ORYDGES was agaiturCthe Bill.'
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of books gratis to the siren' Universities, as the AR 1100. sad Learned Gentleman luniatisintieikA;we
Bill directed, for this ;he conceived an unjust tax an instaice,ofthe ModirtiabutesserothtriecANek
upon authors and hookiellersc As to the argumeat;.ltteaklng, that though all 'the worlis.tif tliesleamortal.i
that the delivery of these books wai advantageous to i poet Gray were id berliarillit!etAollink,.!lfe book.:
Mite booksellers, by. rendering...4o,e ork , hoer4eelleri had leteiyAdj. nP
wasoeve .
tWi; QAtitib..selestmef itiel
known, he thought that laity a. fallacy" findeed, if .:remains, the price o if.wkich n goineae..-N6w
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it were just, he shOuld suppose that every publisher . if all that was good waste he had for a shilling,' there'
.would be forward to make a present of his work.to : was no great evil in refusinpthe Universities' those
every circulating library.. Certainly, through such ; two quarto. voLocees;which cost so much, and were
libraries a now Work would be more likely to become worth nothing.
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known, and to obtain perctiasert, than through the i Mr. SSIITII•spoke in reply.
ruiversitv libraries, , Bat he presumed to , think, , The Bill was then ordered to be engrossed, and
'that the booksellers would be bardly inclined to' reed u• third time to-snort-ore.
adapt such a project focadvertising and disposing oft Mr. MARSH presented a Petition from Mr.
!Their Works.' Recurring to the supply of the (Ink': Fisher against the Bill.---Laid on the table:
versities, I:e
.% as of opinion that a sum should bef .: Mr. CROAKER moved that the House to-morrow
rather granted from the public purse to enable them resolve itself into a Committee of the whole (louse,
'to purchase new works, than to impose upon pub- to consider farther of the gracious Message of the
' lishcrs the tax proposed in this Bill. The sum for Prince Regent, respecting the Duke of Welling.
that purpose need not, it; his judgment, exceed ton.
25001. a-year to all the Universities, and surely Lord PALMERSTON brought in the Agent Ge-
, such a sum ought rather to be allowed, than enact ' nerals' Bill.—ltead a first time, and ordered to be
the provisions of this Bill, which was calculated to read a second time to-morrow.
'discourage the exertion, by reducing the reward of Lord PALM EltsToN brought hi a Bill to de-
talfsit and science. The Learned Gentleman oh. fray theexpences of the Local Militia.—head a first
,erred that the fonds of several of •the Universities time, and to be read a second time to-morrow.
Sir Tliwiiks ACLAND presented a Petition
from Great Stanmore against the Slave Trade.—Ad-

were amply sufficient to purchase hooks, without
any public grant, or any tax upon literary industry.
—For instance, be knew that t e University with
which he was connected (Oxford) felt no solicitude
whatever upon the subject. lie also observed, that
one copy of every new work might suffice for the
two: public libraries of Edinburgh, and one also for
the two pehlic libraries of Dublin, to each of which!
this Bill provided that a copy should be tient. Thus
publishers were unnecessarily taxed, and when the
very high price of some works was considered, the
amount of this taxation might be easily appreciated.
The Hon. Member concluded with expressing a hope
that the discussion of this measure would lead to
the adoption of some plan next Session, which
should be more conducive to the advantage of the !
Universities, and to the general interests of science
and literature, than any Bill of this nature was ever
likely to do.
Mr. D. GIDDY expressed his entire concurrence
in the general observations of the Learned Gentle-
man, particularly in the wish and hope, that in the
next Session some pecuniary provision would be
made from the public purse, to supply 014' public li-
braries with new books,•and thus to relieve the book.
sellers from the hardships of which they complained.
Mr. %V. SMITH thought the Universities ought
to relinquish the petty advantage which the clause'
under discussion proposed to secure to them, for it
was comparatively of little value to them, while by
levying a tax upon publishers, it was too likely to
form a serious impediment to the promulgation of
knowledge. He happened to belong to a Society,
which subscribed to procure the pitislication orthe!
tury,valuable productions of Mr. Smeaton, the cele-
brated engineer, and it was found that the bookseller
could net sell a copy at less than seven guineas and a'
half. Now he submitted to the candid consideration
of the House, whether 11 copies of such a work did
uniform rather too serious a deduction from the profits
of those for whose immediate benefit the work *as
published ; and also, whether such a deduction we)
not peculiarly calculated to impede the progress of
knowledge? Such a tax upon literary inch:stilt would
not, he hoped, be allowed to survive the next Sea.
sign, for its existence was evidently onerous upon
publishers, while it was really degrading to the par.
ties benefited by it, and materially injurious
,to the
interests of the public.
Mr, HORNER thought that a very limited view,
had been taken of the advantage resulting from the
grants to Universities, which formed ,the subject of
discuasisse- Fur through these genets, With the
supply of books which the several public libraries
'assessed, authors of every class were enabled to find
at such libraries all the materials of knowledge. Thus
the interests of litereture were promoted, and authors
derived from the public libraries a degree of advantage
which much more than counterbalanced any diminution
of profit they might 'Attain by supplying 4eck with:

journed.

QUEBEC PAPEILS. ,i

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The Morning Post of yesterday Ite;il
mood, made one of the happiest effort,
fashionable readers, it ever fell to Our lot
; It is an original and delightful mixture, embra.
alt the varieties, ". from grave to gay, from sole
to the slang." itis altogether a production of sick
superlative excellence, is we little thought the very
ingenious and luminous Editor was capebleof con.
posing, It maybe said to contain a specimen of all
descriptions of the Drama—of 'rragetly,"telicjyt
MONTREAL, JUNE 11.—It is with extreme regret
and
Farce. Under the first head is included a4aels
have to acquaint the public with the unfortunate r
result of a gallant enterpri4e by the boats of our gyric on the Princess Cu IRLOTTS ; under the secesdo
laughable strictures on Sir FRANCIS Butiower aett
squadron on Lake Ontario, under the command of
Captains Popham and Spilsbury, of the Royal Navy, under the third, a pleasant account of the Editor's
against a flotilla of the enemy's craft laden Kith ; feelings. To these, indeed, might be fairly added*
naval stares, _which had got into Sandy Creek on its fourth, consisting of the following very neat aka
way from Oswego to Sackett's harbour.
compendious character of the Electors of Westmins
On the morning of the 20th ult. a large boat with
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two 24-pounders and a 194 inch cable for the ene. _ter— A PALACE-YARD MOl3—A GANG eir Miss
my's new ship was captured by our squadron, having CREANTS." Under this last • head, however, as as
sailed from Oswego the evening before with fifteen ,are well aware, both of the will and capacity of the
others. Captains Popham and Spilsbury, with two Electors to speak for themselves, we think it but Be-
gun-boats and some smaller craft,, haying-on board corous to consign to them the task of retproing such
about two hundred seamen and marines, entered the an answer to this tremendous imputation, ai to their
Creek on the morning of the 21st, whsr'e rho enemy's
wisdom
flotilla being shortly afterwards discovered, parties shall seem meet.
'were landed on each side of the Creek,and proceeded That the Princess CIIARLOTTc of WALts shook!
together with the boats without opposition to within, be exhibited on the same stage with a non of nos
about a quarter of a mile of the enemy,
w.lee sud- cREANTs hi full view of the.FasnioNatite Wont),
denly, a Considerable force, consisting of 1,50 evinces a•singuiar felicity of taste, which, however,
men, nearly 200 Indians, and a numerous body of
• we are too ii;tfashionebte to imitate, and shall,,..therte
militia and cavalry attacked and soon overpowered .
fore,,Witn tlie utmost, respect, notice what ry bs
our small party, whose gallant resistance to such
numbers proving unavailing, a surreuder. became in. supposed. So concern her Royal Ilighnessneert
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dispeosekbato rove saerbrave men fiom certain Bleach. itself, without mixing with, and before we atsitelld.
Our loss on the occasion was 19 killed, and 50 vett on tke etiker and leoie. glossing parts of this
wounded. Mr. Roan, master's mate of the Mon- bee uiit I* rhapsody. On Saturday the Fasnioltell
treat, is among the killed, and Lieutenants Cox and - , •
.Veagh of the Marines are severely wounded.. The P Were „informed, ,thilt the 46 Princess CliAse
boats also fell into the hands of the enemy.. . LOTTEilad displayed the most disirositiePt
. The Americana, in their late predatory. expedition , since 4ser residence in Carleton ihrule;" and this if
to Long Point, committed every clime attached to repeatedin the same Paper on Montle); %hese. St
robbery aud conti;;graik,n nothing escaped which well as in the former, it Is called the cueedinicet, for.
came within their merciless fangs. The Dover mills c ,h r Editor
.00v the. L.Liii to her-UoTal higlinese, foelier
and house, owned by Robert Nicoll, Esq. werecon- .r,
amiable conduct since. Tuesday- last. Now, ilk 24
sumac to the ground ; that Gentleman's loss is esei.'
mated at twenty thonsand dollars. 11any private the neW
buildings, besides his, were also bunts by the intellecivit;tight which .has lately darted ell de
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l .vision of this fashionable Potftel4t
enemy. ttv
" Whatever may 6 the tone which the British Go- enough
4 his
old
habitual
11(41.)id4Y
siiii
mains, to prevent his pereeiting, or even suspett•
vernment assumes in the negociation at Gottewburgh, ing, that he was conveying an unqualified and insolent
or the part which the Baltic Powers take in the
coudemna firm oieril Royal Ilighness's general comi att.
questions depending .there, it is incumbent on..lhe
United States to support with a manly firmness the If that illustrious female has °illy .commeßcett act
right's for which we contend. Confident in our re. amiable career since Tuesday; the rds(' infeiesti
sources, in the virtue, the patriotism, and allergies that Can be drawn is, that her former life gave het
of our fellow-citizens we have nothing to fear no claims to cotnmendation. But this is 'Milling
from the hostility of England, should her Govern- more than sheer 'stupidity, and scarcely doers*meat, meta, by vainly attempting to dictate unjust and
dishonourable conditions, Impose on us the twee,. noticel when compared to the hiselence of 114
sity of PieSecuting toe war.”......(Natiunisi /wow, Fashionable Post daring. to ‘.‘.compliiineit her RuPI.
'igencer.) . • Highness on her late amiable couduct." h6e Alert