The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-07-18 00:00:00

LONDON, TUESDAY, JULY 18, 1820.

" The Coune fur which lIAMPUEN fell in the Field, and SYDNET died on the Scaffold."'

1'.1111.1,131E.N1'.

1101.*SE OF LORDS, Mornay. Jtiv 17.

it on the occasion of the resSioes, the amount, as esti-
netted by the Brit;sh Commissioners, %vas :1•0,11001-,
whereas the Turkish Commissioners valued it only at
56,01:10/.; and eventually the High Commissioner pro-
cured for these persons 1511,0041/., which was a much
greater amount than could he got withont his benevo-
lent interference. His Lordship then took a general
view• of the Administration ..1 the 111.....:11 Vonsmission,
tiniuseial as well as m iiitary, amid ably contended tl.at
It Was in every respert Iwnelicial to the interests of
those whose tioscniment.was committed to his eliartfe.
What hwl bent done with revert to the yes don, was,
no more than what 1C44 clearly eel by• the'
Treaty of Paris; and in this es. !tenths?),
as well .1:4 in every olier part ElStrati,m.
Win pail to the welfJre and lei 100 i ple in
question. lie (the Neklo ut '
the usag.e of panegyric, lint the strie.c.ins.
tire e.elteel upon hint :o speak in terstatilitle CM"'
in euslation of the rootlet. tof his ilrert. awl I lant Re-
lative, and who was 1111111wrveilty the ohject Of no small
degrce .if as:Arrtiresn•nta.ion and censure for those parts
of his rom!uct. lie concluded by mewing all address
to h;s:el..jesty, pea, the production of various do-
therein specified, illustrative of the conduct
of Sir T. b4.eitlaiitl, ti. C. It. his Alajcsty's Commis-
sioner to ilse !mien hands.

The Bills upon their Lordships' tal.le were adrancesi
stage, atno which was the Assessed Taxes Coin
position Bill, whirh was read a third time and passed.
The Earl of I'sIINA4TON presented a petition from
the r.ilirto printer: of Manch r. in 1../vitti:- of the Ca-
lico-printers' Bill.—Ortiered to He on thetakir.
A petition WA% presented from a per4.ln bat*
Thomas Burke, statinf ion and faithful services
in the situation of Delinty to the Earl of Limerick, as
Clerk of the Crown fir Irrland.—Ordered to lie on
the tahlr.

The E.srl of I.lroyan %LE presentoil a petition from
certain householders of the rite• of filasfrow,
the Statute Latour Hill. His Loniship Inirresterithe
propriety •f re-committinr the Itial on the morrow, to
scive to the sainerons body of petitioners arainst it an
opportunity of beinr heard.
'fhp fluke of 31ov.rftosc. was of opini- n that the
Hill bad been sufficiently disrns•rd already in the t', ni-
ntliter, where several clauses were proposed and (lc-
heed upon.
The petition was ordered to lie on the table.

RAlNiii-NOTE HILL --The Earl of 14 v.etteoot.
moved the second reading of the Hank-note Bill. ills
Lordship said. that the general principle of the Hill
was one which 1111111 t prove beneficial to the public, 311.1
he was not aware that an:ii objection would be mac
to it.

Earl ft r ellre.ited his cordial approbation
of etery thing Butt had fallen from: the Noble Earl.
The whole conduct of Sir 'Thomas M:iitlanol, on the
occasion referred to. was deserving of Coe highest
eountientlation. lie had itctell on an °erasion to dirk-
cul,y without example, with the utmost degree of firm-
.ness, tent!.er, anti moderation. A more hototor.tble or
a strenuous sert ant of the piddle could not be found.
A II! It' wird, relict-tin., the conduct of Uovernment
concerning* the cession of Part.a, he begged leave to
state. lidx, when fairie viewed, he than ht, 111112 ii
aprrar to have bevel ciii:o 11 egl in the most canti l
mid onexreptiona%ile manner. It had been argued, as
if the ces.ion of Parga was a matter of option' on.the
part of the British tioverommt ; it was, however,
quite different. '1 hey by the Treaty of 15, no
right to retain that. By that Treaty the right to the
possession of Parga was devilled to vest in the !'carte.
Be had some Mfielal eiontnunication nitit tietteral
Campbell on the subject. I.a!terly, however, that
t;allant Uificer was too ill for a lemma( intetview, but
he had mule a sort of death-bed declaration, that he
hail uev r authorized any person to give the Pargne-
nots reasun to believe that they did not belong to the
Porte. Its occepation by the H itish was only by the
Isaac right that we had occupied Egypt in the oar be-
fore the last‘which also belonged to that State, and
which the British in like manner were hound to re.b,re
to that Power It the conclusion, of the war. t)u the
same principle, the French were driven tint ..f both in
the first instance. With respect to the cession, it w:t'
stipulated with the Porte, that such of the l'ar-
Ut•illsts as chase should have liberty to reolose
1,1..1Ru-ties. Such as eltiot• to avail theniselves of toy
itipulaAion, disposed of tboir itroperirs on terms fir
muse favourable than was known on occasions of the
Lind. •

1 he E. r 1 of LAtitranAmt stated, that he wa% in-I
:armled to move, on behalf of the petitioner againat
the BM, that the !miil petitioner 1* heart'
when..ver tiie Itotow went into a Committee n#on it.
_ .

The Earl of lavyttroat. observed, that 1; had no
objection to bearing the petitioners.
'llse Fad of I. vt nEnn s LK sai•l, that it was the wish
of on • of the petitioners that stranger* should with-
draw during the time of his twin: heard by the Com-
mittee, to prevent his discovery from being made
known: awl, alto, because it was hi, intention to allow
that the plan adopted by the Bank Iva- nugatory.
The Earl of Livra. cool. lemarLeil, that it was very
probable that thel petitioner dial nut know what that
plan was, as tin ce was nu de-cAption of it ou the Mee
..f the Bill. His Lordship :14..u.:ht it highly imp
per, that, after a Curosititive 0.1.1 been anpsinted on
an Address of ode, if not et oth Haas ,•••• of Parlia- I
went, and, site; several ho..!.ed plans bail been 91,-1
fitnined by the Cognmissioner-, all inquiry should hig
entered into when the plan was ;almost oomplete, which
might turoLe it impusrible to carry it into an eitsiy limb
444•4:tual osaitatiam.- • .0.... 4
Ler.: blomaas la said, that he wonid scot !peak apoo .
the point of hearing the petitioner , hem's.; tl.a; teas
not the qu.stion, lint he felt it his linty to observe,
' that the Noble Earl had nut adduced a strong or suf-
ficient argrottent against an inquiry. by stating that a
Committee had been appoitsted to investigate the sub-
ject upon 4.1 Address of the other House of Parlia- I
tote;ot. Ile did not think that their I.ordaloi:•s were
thereby exonerated from instigating an inqn!ry, and of
receiving all possible informatihn upon a subject inti-1
mately connected with the well-beiug of society, and
affecting the property anti tires of individuals,
The liill was then mil a se:outl time, and orderus!
to be comusitted on Wednesday.
EXTRA posT DCTV BILL—The Earl of Li-
VIII POOL stated, that on all:111111: of 34)111r UhiretiOnf
wlsie!, he understood would :le made to the Eatri
' Post Ilitty 11111, he would nut move the second rending,
1 of it then, but would defer it till to-morrow (this day )
Lord Au. II LAN 0 presented a petition from certain
' persona cionti,e4l in the Fleet prison, ruing that the
Insolvent I !ei,:.,r,' Bill mittlit be .411 (mused as to meet
their 1:3!r.--Or.kr..il to lie tot the table.
The 3larquis of LaNsona N rreSk'llie.l a petition
front the merchants of Liverpool and asanufactnrers of
Manchester, praying that the protecting dutit a oil the
importation of certain articles of British no; ttttt factnre
into Ireland might be repealed. The Noble Marquis
t ,ok that opportunity to state it as leis Own opinian,tloat
all restrictive and protecting duties in the commercial
intercourse between Ureat Britain and Ireland tended to
the detriment of both euuntries, and were contrary to
the spirit of the Constitution. There onght to he no
restraint upon consoneretal or personal intercourse ba-
tween countries which wore both integral parts of the
one empire. Ireland could never enter into successful
c petition with England in tho.e manufactures which
were peculiarly Eu4lish ; but .t would IN a great ad-
vantage to her to have no restr Int upon the lotroitnc-
tiqn of her produce int? England, and of those mann-
!
facturea in which she load particularly succeeded.—
Laid on the table. •
__ _

he motion was itumediatily agreed to without fur-
ther discussion.

After a short ronrersatlnn between Lori, EIt•KINIC
au the Earl of LarnavlALE,lonthites's Pirtore
Lut-
tery Dill was mail the seven,' tittle, and referred to ;lie
rons:ternation of an I hit-,loor rototoit.ee.

• MARRIAIiP. ACT AMV.NIIIIENT BILL—Lord
Et.i...,:ttswoc.:ll mused the Order of the Bay for the
committal of ibis Bill. Ile ecplained, that hi: i.tten.
800 Was to propose, that the amendment. le, Was ith.mt
t., I repa:f• should b.. agreed to and pritre-I and that
Or Bill .build he re-committed n IVe•llie.“l.t), nlwit
the ems- clauses or amendments ribald be regularly
diseuiced.

',Vile LORD Cuatcert.t.on ohseretsil, that it the rm.
after contingent of a C itt,•;•, should. in Itls mind,
contiatte to be ohicetitinali!e a ith reference to the
uutrals and religion of the ronntry, lie should certo;ttly
object to the measure alto Tether. If, in a C 44444 tuitire,
it couhl ire ronolered of n iiitferent nature, he utuloutit-
edly should not oppose it.
lord Its:Desn.tt.c swirl, if the Bill retold 11- renderril
unolljecCottoble in a Committee. particularly on the
score of its proposed retrosretive operation, he !tumid
support it. But there were clangs in the Bill which
collerrfor the most amino% consideration. _ _

The Earl of 1.tvca:”tool: entirely ronetirred in :tie
slew taken of the measii:e loy the Nohle Lord wh•o
spoke last. )the Marriage Law certainly relotired
great alteration, and he bad no difficulty in •tating,
that they should rather halt to the f thou to
the obstruetiou of marriages ; and lie certaiuly tt.0tt;....0t
the alterations should he of a prote.dive, and nut of
a etr .st wive operition, and the Noble Minister also
'mural to upprose of the Noble and Learned lair
suggestion f a tiormer evenieg, resiomting the 11C1111-
ragruteut of mart iage by banns, preferable to those by
licence.
After some further pain ipally by Lord
Iltou.smto and the Noble Lord on the Woolsterk, their
Lordships resolved into aeounnittee en the Bill, when
the several amendments proposed by Lord Et.t.tist-
e.oetoccii were a:_sreell to, and the Ile: wort or tenet!
to be received to-morrow, with the understantlitr., that
a disenssiatt of the Bill as amended, should take place
on its cc-commitment on Wednesday.
l N.ll. LAWS.—'lse filartinis of I.lN.nowN
said, he rose to move the third reatlintf of the three
Bills which hail passed the other Blouse relative to the
wi ion of the severity of the criminal law in parti-
cular ca-e,. 'I he first of these Bills to which he beg-
ged leave to call their 'Ext.-tit-hips' attention, was that
which to .k away capital punishment from the offence
of privately stealing in a shop to the Tattle Of fire -hid-
'!logs. He should briefly endeavour to stare to their
Lotalships thegrounds upon which he thought the pre.
.4.11 t measure n urgently rolled lur. He slo ii d
o'o their Lord.hips the injnstice to sti,.pose that the!

AIESSAGES FIIO3I THE COMMONS.—Mr. U.
Gilbert, Air. Brog.leti, and uther, launda t►p seine
Bills of a private and local nature, which were read a
drat time.
CONDUCT OF SIR THOMAS MAITLANTI,

The Order of the Day Nom which their Lordships
were su ttttt toned being read,
The Earl of LAI nsttuAta rose to bring forward his
noticed motion on this subject. He prefaced it by a
speech of some length, in which he I-intik:ord the
euuduct of his Hon. and tlallant Relative on occasions,
particularly with respect to the cession of Parga,c'hich
had been the subject of repeated discussions in another
place; and, as his Lordship observed, the topic of
mit-lo calumny and misrepr. trutatiun of doors, in
certain publications, and in other tvt9 s. The noble
Earl entered into a detailed discussion resi:..:•ting. the
circumstances of causes of the ce:•;ion of Para, anti
also of the conduct of his litou. and Hail:tut ltelatite,
as High Uottinsissiower, on the part of his Majesty, to
the lonian Isles. lie contended, that the Parguenuts,
instead of being treated with the least harshness •r
injustice, were treated with every possible lenity, and
every possible attention paid to the rights of property
sin that important occa-inn. With respect to the va-
lualon ui the property of th ,se who chu r to :•art. with

PRICE SRVEN PENCE.

would lie willing to continue a law on their statute
hooks which was unnecessarily severe in its provisions
and inoperative in its effects. If, then. thooy were of
' °pinhole as he was convinced they roust, that such a
law diol not tend to assist, but to impede and retard
the cause of justice, he was persuaded they would
readily assent to a nroolilicatioe of it. A lawthat tend-
ril to deter prosecutors and witnesses from coming ftr-
ward to give their testimony was a diegrane to the eta-
toile I k ; and the sooner it was gut rid of the better.
In fart, he would assert slam% fear of enntrnelictlooc,
that the law had hardly been acted upon at ail foe e
last thirty or forty years. During that tinier its ex-
treme seserity had armed, besides the peosecuturs cid
witnesses, the Judges themselves agaiiist it. Indeed,
this was risible even in eases where the et:dery of kis-
tier imperionsly demanded that prosecution should
take place. It was a well authenticated fact, that pro.
secutors rather acquiesced in the depredations committed
upon them, than broua,ht themselves to gide,teettineee.•
in cases io here the punishment was so dispropowtiou-':
to the afro„ •. They could not be induced to se!-I,est
a fellow-creature to the loss of life under such eh eons-
stances, avid were better pleased to forego the less df
property, than to punish the delinquent with the Lott
indiction that the penal code could adjudge. Tv
show that the law was, to all intents and parpmee.,
inoperative, it would only he necessary for flint tq ad-
vert to a short statement of farts, which he held in his
hand. From the year 1,435 to the year I not less
than 35•2 cionvirtions had taken place undir the law,
het not one execittion. In London and Westminster
not Inure titan ewe execution had taken place und.-r it
diirine a whole centeiry. There had been only oen
exeruti ii likewise in the Northern districts? and' oat
of lifty-tire civavictions in the Western counties, at, ex-
ereetien haul taken place. Ia Lancashire, front 1701
to lis there had been Mow convictions, ate' no t.-
rti:lell. It was quite en:lidera to prove the neceeelty
of altering this law, that tntieemen, a class of pi 01,:e
whose habits rendered them peculiarly acute ettdattart-
tive to their own interests, were the first to ,owe- fir-
ward and seek a e ;;;;; motation of it. Shopkeepers
were known to claim an exemption from prosecuting
under it, so sensible were they of its disgraceful
rity. Two most relic' table tralesmen as any thst
London could produce. (Mr. Crowther and .rtes Cal•
tins) bad stated that they had cretin-T. 1y ac oleserol :to
thefts cut ttttt itted epee' their property from:. rein: ranee
to prosecute the offenders, because their lives innerhe
compromiseil.—He sheeloi Own ask their Lordships
if, after such evidence. the onflionce of persons beioniz-
ing to a rialto of men who were known to pay a tell%
attentioa to the protection ef theirodrip.rty ? he„ltonid
ask their Lordships if, after all that had pissed% the
other Ilonse of Pierli,thoetit, and the final eanetion of
that House to the measure., they he dispose,'
to °Newt le the iv:it-fiat repeal of this law? He should
detain their Lordships no loneer, hut would more, that
the itiii he read It third time, rieeorviee to himself the
rigid of giviug any explanations on the subject that
m;i ht be necessary.
The Loan Coisseehhott expressed his riereet, sleet
the Noble Alarquis had felt it his duty to .iverwi•thr,
this ut.tio• .before their leo I hip*. whet Feel the
.61 the twelve Jeffers noon its eerier il nwrrts.
'Ube verdicts of Jetties under the law in oluestion. had
net alavys met with the approh dhoti of the Judges.
Ito runner stages these Mils heel been ievariahly tett—
pre,' hv that treat and experieuced man, the late Lord
Chief di.tiire ut the I one tel Ring's Bench. it was
uihl ity the snaporters .f tins Rill, that it wet hard t:,
take away the life of an individual for stealingodly to;
the value of Ilse ehiliines in a shop. Ile! whet 41s1.
the motion now before Ilse:- Lordships iorofest to tIo:
Why, it went to exempt that person from capital r.
nisiietent, who, toeiine advantage of the owner of
wig lit enter it, add takeaway property service:
to ruin an industrious tradesman. "I he exiethor lan`
was never meant to pawl persens of large, but 'if
small property. He should say that this Rill, br '
taking away capital punishment from the crime rt
that person who should eleepoll a main of the wietitt
fruits ot a life of hstiotstry must operate most i rept rionsly
agaiest the commercial welfare. He remit, not consi-
der it iii any reoloroot a ei !wirier*, proceeolinr. 'Re
was not olispeeed, liowevir, to make any matethl • Is.
iection to the motion, yet hr wonld say, that if hip
lifting woe to he held as a crime, their Lordship!' een,Att
to consider whether it weenie& be prudent to alterNthat
law evloili had lout. existed reaingt it.
Lord It Lot:eines. said, that t:s torus an roe-irate 4.,-
tianate of the law as it now stood, the hest eery fri+
tniulyto consider only hoot. many were det•ritet
was
from proseentiug by the sect.' ity of it. operation ; sto -
also it was eptally rieLt to consider how many were
deters./ el from co ttttt iitting the crime by the name eeverit-.

'I he 3litrquis 4.ll4.titsun„ N explaiuetl.
The I,oau Utivsit Ei.t.on said, that in th:. event
the Lill being read a third time, he should rroposs
amenaltuent. reserving capital punishment in ea.,. of .
theft, where the prop ry stden should be abt.ve the
value of ten pounds.
Strangers were then or lered to withdraw, hut theie
Lordships did.not divide on the motion; aad the PAH
was then react a third time, and passed with the rro. •
posed amendment, as we undeistood.
We were exeludi d fur some time, and on oar •re-ad.
mission we found Lord it. 1)1[1011.R objecting to rhea.
cLuse in the Commutation of IPRIIIIIIIOIICRUI for P
Innies Bill for exempting persons with their faces.
blacked, or otherwise disguised, trout capital puntAts.l.
nt in cases where it is pr.o.ided fur by the existing .1
law.
The Martinis Of LARADOVI PI urged the espotlienc7. of
commuting the puoisbmeut.for transp, nation. .1%
After a alturt conversotion. in which Lori Ilims,asto
took part, II
The Lieu CU A N AAA LOR adverted to severs" Outmost
f the Bill, assenting to white of them and objecting to
others. lb. thought the pituishmeat ought to be qui.
fered to cootinue in cases of wiifnl tlepretlatin on