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member to move an amend

it deference to the opinion 01 ;05
Air. Blackburn's observatitbe
. It was not a motion at all which rely
Education Committee had brought forward. They 0, !are
brought forward their proceedings, which the council
n.OOl
called upon either to confirm or reject ; therefore, the u 3"

Mr. HoDaso
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recce, mu
.fectly just

ay that

subsequently proposed was irregular and out of course. .00.
Mr. EARLE was just going to make a similar obserrattir as
The principle had been all along established, and agf`eot
that went there was nothing new in it ; but this amen"°ootr
was in direct opposition to the principle. It coal,'
therefore, be entertained without notice. d to
Mr. HORNBY would make one observation with reggrvep
order, in consequence of a legal doctrine which had t of
set up by the Town-clerk system on the Par
committees was to be est way

n end tl.,e

It till
lisped, -
i to him, if this Pr,l,lpg
- - d to u'"„e,

ing or however .c,
his was quite a new Pr'
) in the habit, when
tb
ceedings of committe!'l
favour of the Education.
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rogated by the co-mmi°thtege—s
1 duties, as members of the con,nc
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,anwdhwichhe,reinwoeuriel:

they would be p

;top ? Their power
vould be
vould become so many imperil in imperio
. _

whole powers of tl

that certain principl
Committee ; he, the
G. R. Lawrence we

Mr. TURNER

former occasion to submit a

had now great pleasui
G. H. Lawrence, towa
view. Although he w

casion, he was so assu
cause that he was conf
would succeed eventu

tolerate the s

bigotry v
tinguishe

I be submitted by the Education
thought that the by
of Mr.

regiiiar, but still it was for the

had the honour upon

.op-osition simil

ar to this, be

cling his. feeble efforts to Mr

omplishini the object he had in
sanguine of success on this oc-
id the equity of the

,d of the justice

t, even if they failed for a time, they

)o enlightened to

The last remnant of the

g was almost ex-

was not far distant when
a better state of things would prevail—when we should have
the haupiness of seeing good will and Christian charity about
us, and when all should be engaged in that labour of
love, doing unto others as we would have otheis do
unto us. In his humble opinion, the Education Corn-
nconsistent. He did not think they
if their views were to be carried
ildren to go into the schools and

'ent far

out, because they ai!owed

learn religion six

the most important d
wherever their pleased—

)urch or chapel, to conventicle
,laced before them.
conducted according to the

or synagogue, just to learn whatever

Now,ittlesc

of England alone, it was the duty
of the committee to make all the children go to church on
the Sunday. As an abstract principle, he would admit that
education without religion was an evil ; but was it not an evil
to deprive the poor children of those parents who professed
different religious opinions to ourselves, and who had an
equal claim with ourselves to a fair share of the advantages
the Corporation Schools were enabled to give, of the blessings
of education ? Was not that an evil? Was it not also an
evil that those poor children should be left to run and .riot
about the streets in ignorance and idleness, liable to the con-
tagion of evil example, and all those vices which, if not
checked in youth, would at maturity cause them to forfeit
their liberty. if not their lives ? Was not that an evil ? It
! the remedy in its own bands. Why
had taken place in the attend-
t appeared from the returns made this
ru

principles of the Chur

was, and the cc

was the great falling off whic
ance at the schools

he preseut attendance with that of
the corresponding period last year, there had been a falling
off of no less than 297 children. With all these facts before
him, it certainly did appear to him an act of injustice, if not
of cruelty, to leave the benches of the schools empty when
they might be filled. Again, as Mr. Lawrence had stated,
schools had been emptied at the south end of the town, and
there had also been a falling off in the subscriptions to other
schools which were flourishing before, in consequence of the
system now established. Surely, this was to be lamented.

Surely, it was to be lamented that the Church of England
schools should be emptied to fill the Corporation S.

which were vacant beCause the committee would not receive
the poor Roman Catholic children. This he did not call
Christian charity; but he was sure that the longer this
question was agitated, the more progress it would gain—that
although it might be in a minority now, it would succeed
eventually. Let them not be faint-hearted or he weary in
well-doing. He would, in conclusion, say to all his friends,
" Persevere magna est veritas et prwvalebit." He seconded
the motion of Mr. G. H. Lawrence.
Mr. Nicol, bad heard with interest, as he always did, the
observations which had fallen from Mr. G. H. Lawrence,
although he might not be able to arrive at the same conclu-
sions. Mr. Lawrence had spoken a great deal concerning
the difficulties of the school question, the municipal and other
difficulties which attended it ; and he confessed that, after
having heard him say that there was a great doubt whether
the borough fund was equal to the continued support of the
schools ; after having heard from Mr. Turner that there was
a considerable falling off in the attendance ; when he heard
from Mr. Lawrence; as he had with satisfaction, that the
Council could never be considered as an educational body ;
that the view of the legislature in passing the Municipal Act
must have been that they should not be an education body;
after hearing all this, and many other circumstances connected
with the question, he must say that he had arrived at a con-
clusion very different from that to which Mr. Lawrence and
Mr. Turner had arrived. It appeared to him that instead of
their motion getting rid of an unpleasant question, they were
involving it in fresh difficulty, and the conclusion to which
he had come, arising, too, out of their own arguments, was,
that the sooner the schools were closed the better. Referring
back to the Education Committee to consider such a propo-
sition as had emanated from Mr. Lawrence was blinking the
question altogether; it was only referring that to them to
which it was known beforehand they would not consent. All
the arguments he had heard not only to-day, but during the
whole of last year, and particularly the statement made by
Mr. Turner that the attendances were falling off instead of
increasing, bad brought him to the conclusion, which he
would have moved as a second amendment if it was in order,
that the schools should be closed altogether ; but as he ap-
prehended that would be an irregularity, he reserved that
right after having given notice. He therefore begged to in-
timate that at the next Council it was his intention to
move that the schools be closed at the end of the current
quarter. He had nevar bound himself to any opinion upon
the subject of education, hnt as he did not think Mr. Law-
rence's motion calculated to do any good he should vote
against it.

-Mr. H ARROW!), as a member of the Education Committee,
begged to say that Mr. Turner was in error when he stated
that the attendance in the schools had fallen off. The fact
was, that since the management of them had come into the

present hands, the

increa

tendance had every

been upon the

even :or one week

he alluded to the average at-