The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-10-27 00:00:00

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' been forced by the solmeru roin the peen into 4h. foam. .. Heeepposed the Civil List °teethet presebt enorme.
It is also necessary to rein Icel ihrit a eeldiee was obe ein
.scele, and proposed its reduction : Itutred for returns
served loading his pilau with the evident intention of to prove iteirxtraesigance, but hismoilons were rejected.
discharging it, which, upon b.:ing discovered by one of "He brought the expenses of the Colonies before the
yonr officers, was struck our of his hand. The Officers in House each year, to induce the Government to economy.;
• the Barracks, I pre.iime,-theirine rif this conduct, or- and the returns to his`ucciliOns first biOught the Gibril--
dered the soldiers tp return ; which, after some time, tar,
.the Ceylon;St. Helene, and other amounts before
was effected. To restore tranquillity once more was , the public. The expenses of the Colonies of (treat Bri-
your
desire, and yonentrtions stideoeirfil- beyond .yetfr ' fain amannt to upiiirdi'd three •niillionit'sterling, and
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most sanguine expectation' ; as also its withdrawine have been brought to view by. Mr. Hume.
greater part of the populace from the busy scene. About " Heligoland establishment of 10,0001. a-year has been
eight o'clock we returned towerds Tlyde Park Corner ; i abolished, and half a million might be as easily saved
every thing appeared tramptillized; and thus ended a I immediately in the other Colonies. •
most fatiguing as well as hazermlous duty for bimu, who I "He has for successive years tried to reduce the ex-
I have the honour to subscribe theetelf his most obedient I pence of the lonian Islands of 110,0001. which is conti-
humble servant, " Hama Monemtee." nued contrary to Treaties, and solely for patronage.
"Mr. Sheriff Waitliman." " Until last Session the debates on the Army and
The papers were then ordered to be entered on the NAT Estimates seldom took up two or three nights in
Journals and referred to the Committee of General all. Mr. Hume, by his statements and exposures for
Purposes. three month:, rendered the country fully aware of the
useless expenditure. and called from the country at
FREEDOM OP THE (ITV TO .1. 111711 E, ESQ• M.P.
large for retrenchment.
The Requisition for salting the Special Court was
" He attacked the large standing army, and by his ex-
then read.
posures Ilse sheaved the unnecessary number and the ex-
Mr. FAVELT., prior to tee'e',eg• his intended motion, travagance of every department; and although Lords
begged that the minters of the Court for erenting the Palmerston and Castlereagh declare
been that a single nian
freedom of the City to Earl ( aemelen shonld be read. could not be reduced, 12,0 h ordered to be
The Minutes were read. They Rt.ateri, that on the disbanded, whilst he has shown that 2.5,000 regulars
3d November 1819, the Freedom of the , & City, a.bad might be disbanded.
• " In the number of the staff, in the number of the half-
been granted to Earl Camden, for !seeing so libe-
rally reeigned a large portion of hie income as a Teller pay officers, the extrevegaet expenses of the Military
College, &c., although out-voted on every motion, his
of the Exchequer, in con:ideratioo of the public die- statements groad uncontradieted, and he mainly cone
tresses. • . pelted the Ministers to join in an Address to the Crown
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Mr. FAVELL said be hal reqnested the Mantes of to reduce the Army.
" Ile exposed the extrevagance of that department
this Grant should he mew:, not because the case was
exactly F aillel with that w eie h be was shout to bring in a nianner never before done ; showed the application
of public money and patronage to the voters of Queen-
forward, but because he wishiel to remind the Court . in -
oorough an extraordinary degree.
how anxiously they ha I been upon the watch to re- " His stetemeents have all been manned by the Re-
ward every individu .1 who had exerted himself to de- turns be moved for, and great reductions have beets or-
crease the public experelian e. or increase the public dered in the branches he pointed out, although all were
revenue- lie felt that it, loin:zing fit wird this mo- stated to he impossible, and he was out-voted in the
tion, he was flailing the dying :erptest of a friend by Hou,se, d'e""""K*,
"He pointed out toe uselm: and extravagant expen-
whem it was first intradured, and who, with his latest
breath, entreated him to persevere in it. He need not diture in the large estiblisliments of officers in tliedock-
yards, in building sltips, when we have already twice as
remind the Court that Mr. Hume, the subject of this many as all the world, &c.
motion, had been, and still was, the chatimpiou of eco- " lie summed up all the practicable reductions in the'
notny and re'renchineet, when the nation wiei in all public expenditure that could Ire made immediately, to
quarters groaning wider its heavy harden and calling the amount ofneers,olioeloo/., having' previously pointed
for relief. He then was the foremost to point out out all the items in detail, with the pm oafs of his proposal.
If the country had not beep roused by Mr. Hunie's
where relief could he applied, where the burden could I exertions, the Ministers would not, in all probability,
be lightened. He (Mr. Favell) emit' appeal to time Ilave yiet.e.e. teee h
ee small agricultural tax of half a million
records of their Court, in proof of the many petitions sterling.
which they had from year to year presented to periia. "It was equally novel to see one Member by his indi-
went, praying Retrenchment amid Referin. How, vidnal exertion, supported by but a few in the House,
then, could they refuse to rewerd that nein who bad effect such a change, as it was to see the manner he de-
unceasingly exerted himself to realise the prayer of feated the Ministers, and obliged them at the close of the
Session to adopt his recommendation; and at the saute
their Petitions ? There was no want of preceden:s time state that :11r. Hume never lost his temper, although
to sanction the proceeding which lie was about to re- Mr. Ward, Lord Palmerston, and others bad often at-
commend. Among the records of the Court, it ap- tempted, by rudeness and ridicule, to draw hint from his
peared that in the year Ilia the thanks of the Court plans."
were voted to the Rev. Dr. ['s ire. for a pamphlet which There was one more paper which be would trouble the
be had written in favour of civil liberty: He had the Court by reading, from whirls it appeared that Mr.
more pleasure in bringing forward this motion, beceure Hume was prepared to propose a measure fur making
it wonld convince the public that this Court did nut a reduction in our esteblislemeents to ales amount of
delight, as was falsely imputed to it, in the habit of 4,288,0001. He had minutely rte
eeitheil'rmill the items
passing votes of censure atel disapprobation, but that in this calculation, and the result was, that the...whole
they were glad of an opportuoity of conferring its ho- of the taxes upon candles, soap. salt, and leatipittatight
nours upon an Houourable Gentleman, who had faith. be taken off. The Worthy Member next aditertell fo
fully discharged the duty Which he owed to the coml. the remarkable coincidence between the motion for an
try. The motion he was about to submit was one in Address to his Majesty.viltich was proposed by Me.
which time community at large was interested ; for at Hume, and that which Iva! subsequently adopted by
a time when an officer or high rank in the army, and his Majesty's Ministers.' 'I int objeetiof this proceed-
a Magistrate at time. head of the Police hail been de- ing was evidently to take away 01 the merit from Mr.
graded by his Majesty's Government, becauset they had flume, and to place it to the account of his Majesty's
nut thew') themselves sufficiently subservient to the Ministers. At the same time it was not his (Mr. F's.)
measures of the Court, it was more peculiarly locum- wish to depreciate the 6overutnent, if they were will-
bent upon them to mark their gratitude for eminent lug to go hand in hand, o and wk in co-partnership
public services. He spoke of a gentleman this day with Mr. Hume. Whether measures of retrenchment
of no ordinary character, in regard to his assiduity, emanated from Ministers, or from an individual op-
firmness, and unwearied exertions in investigating all posed to theta, was of little cutieeqiietice, provided the
those points, which were connected wimb the revenue great ol4ect of a reduction of the public expenditure
and finances of the country, and which bed enabled were effected. The Worthy Member concluded by
him, in the course of a short parliamentary career, moving the Thanks of the Court to J. Hume, Esq.
to effect as touch as would have done honour to a M. P. fur Aberdeen, for his indefatigable exertions ,in
long life of public service. He trusted that no ohjec. promoting every object which might tend to the diuii-
lion would be made to the motion, on the ground that nution of the public expenditure.
other gentlemen had supported the measures proposed Mr. Ei ee-secended the motion.
by Mr. Hume, and were therefore equally entitled to Mr. Dittos said, he was ready to admit the perse.
their thanks. He was ready to give every praise to coring industry of Mr. Hume, and that a great deal of
good might arise from what be had recommended in the
the band of illustrious and excellent teen who had sup- way of retrenchment. It was equally certain, however,
ported him, but it could not be denied that Mr. Hume's that his excessive zeal had carried him beyond the
wonderful labours and indefatigable exertions pecu- bounds which men of sound and sober judgment could
liarly entitled him to the thanks of that Court. When approve. Every one was aware, that io consequence of
a similar honour was conferred upon the three eminent the wars in which we had been so long engaged, the
lawyers who distinguished themselves in defendieg country wet necessarily burthened itith very heavy
The officers on half-pay, both in the army
her late Majesty, it was observed that three other expenses.
and navy, were entitled to remuneration fur their ser-
lawyers bad also been retained in her cans-, but the
propriety of confining the honour preferred by the' vices, and had an liOnourable and legal claim upon the
country. Ile could not help thinking, that the object of
Court to those who had most distinguished themselves Mr. Hume's persevering exertions in Parliament was ra-
was then admitted, and he hoped therefore lie should thee to embarrass the Government, than to promote the
not now be met by a similar objection. He felt that public interests. Ile had called for more papers in one
he should not do justice to the motion which he bad Session than all the Members of the House of Commons
had done for tuany years.—(Hear, hear.)—He had, in
undertaken if lie did not enter for a few minutes into
fact lost sight of all discrimination, and in bis (Mr.
time history of Mr. Hume's Parliamentary conduit.— Dixon's) opinion, he would have done himself greater
Such was the effect produced by the labours of this credit it be had called for fewer papers. He believed Mr.
exit am dinery and excellent gentleman that Ministers -Hume had called for more papers than would serve the
had been chegkcd iu their profligate career, and it was particular purposes of all the members of that Court for
a common answer to the applications of their partie many years.--(Strong marks of disapprobation.)—Mr.
zan's to say, " We would willingly accede to your re- Muse was net the only person who was desirous of re-
quest, but if we were to grant it. we should infillitly
clueing the expenditure of the country • and the Worthy
..4. . Gentleman (gr. Favell) had been forced: to- admit, that
bring Mr. Hum upon us."—(A laugh.) A Re-
lees there ware disposition on the part of Ministers to second'
Member proceeded to read to the Court a paper fee- his example. It would be impossible to reduce the en-
tailing the Parliamentary services of Mr. Hemet—, ' larks of public officers to the scale of 1797, at a very
" He opposed the three millions of taxes in 1819, and early period, because no persons could now live upon'
then recommended by retrenchment to make a real sink- the same annual income as in 1797. Peculation would
ing fund.
" He has advocated on orrery occasion the removal of be the inevitable consequence of eremature reduction,
the restrictions on foreign commerce, which at present and he hoped, therefore, - that there was no in- I
so much cramp the prosperity of the country. tention of carrying retrenchment to any extravagant
"He has submitted for three successive years, motions length. It would he better if souse worthy
to reduce the expence of collection of the revenue in the members, instead of troubling themselves witlil
Excise and Customs, and general revenues.
the public expenditure, would look to that of
" He has shown that in Scotland and Ireland the ex-
their own Corporation. As to the merits of Mr.
petters of collection have been doubled, and that there
are between fonr and five millions paid for the collection Hume, they were greatly over rated. and much had
of the revenues, of which one-third at the least might be been ascribed, Which, in point of fact. be had bor.
saved, by returning to reasonable salaries and reduced rowed from Mr. Creevey. Mr. Creevey had col;
establieliments. As an example of what might be dens, lected all the information in an excellent pamphlet,
he pointed out the 65 sinecure offices of Receivers Gee of which Mr. Hume had subsequently availed him-
neral, and 95 Distributors of Stamps, for threosoccese
self. He intreated gentlemen not to make the votes
sire years, and only succeeded by perseverance ISL the
get a Committee appointed, which tit- of thanks' conferred lay that Court too cheap. The
last Session to
mended their abolition, saving 75,654 M. out of I 17,90 W. Worthy Gentleman had called • upon the clerk to
"By this means ISO aiseeure offices will be abolished, read the vote of thanks passed by that Cutlet to
and exclusive of the corrupt patronage, as many ibis- Lore Camden, bat he had not ventured to make a
sand ponsdi be saved annually. A Commissioabs.sow comparison between the two individuals. Lord
sitting-in Scotland to inqhire Into the Stamps. '- :- Camden bad made a great
_personal pecuniary es-
the"L".ll92' 11 9, and
tion's4ire redmtic; salariesoti7pri7:ap-ro-zizi:rs..., aid upon -hie country. 1 hodgb be expected to be in 'a
though rejected in the Howes of commas. higcbmsa itioority. he still felt it his duty to oppose the me.
adopted by the Treasury liana them. . ~..4 • -..-, •. OW; *he
.pouseeiwed that Mr. Name had neither