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Thomas Tessin examined by Mr. BOLLA.
Coach and Horses. in Conduit Street. The two Thnrtells
and Hunt frequented my house. On the 24th October.
these persons were there, and Probert. Ttturtell asked me
to lend Hunt 51.
Cross-examined by Ur. TNESSletit.—The Thurtells-end
Hunt were introduced to me by Probert. They frequented
my house from the 21st I Ictober.
Re-examined by Mr. BOLLANP.—flunt wore very large
whiskers on the 24th, which 1 observed he bad cot off on
the Monday following : on that day John Thurtell was
differently dressed from any thinz ha bad seen before.—
Hunt was well dressed. On Sunday they went away in a
gig, in which I perceived a shovel. Hunt was generally
shabbily dressed.
William Renworthy was again called in, and examined
by Mr. Bolland.—l have known Mr. William Weare fifteen
teats; he was a man of considerable property, and carried
his money to a large amount about his person ; I Lave seen
him put his hand into the inside of his shirt, and take out
large sums; I beliove he was acquainted with Jobn
Thurtell and Hunt. On Thursday preceding the mor.b-r,
1 saw John Thou tell and Wcare together in my bons-.
(In the 24th 1 saw Mr. Weare; he called on me at No.j 6,
Spring Gardens, between one,and two ; .1 did not see him
after that.
Crosrexamined by Mr. Arrounws.,—My rooms are much
frequented; 1 often see the same fares • 1 saw Mr.
Weare's body after he was murdered ; I slid not see it
disinterred.—[l he penknife before spoken of, was item
handed to witness, ;:nd he identified it as one he bad
seen in the possession of Weare on the morning of the
24th of October.]
Cross examined by Mr. ANDREWS.--I know the knife
by a mark on it, and because it is a remarkable knife, and
much worn.

The knife was then shewn to the Jury and closely ex•
antimed by them.
In answer to Mr. Justice PARIC, he said he had sees the
body of Weare when taken out of the water; the legs
were then naked.
Mary Malony, examined.—l was laundress to the late
Mr. Weare; e lived at No. 2, Lyon's Inn. On Friday
the 24th 0 toper, I went into his room in the morning.
Some of his things were on his drawers ; he put them into
ear?et bag. ( hag was here idontitied,)—There
were five linen shirrs, six pairs of stockings, a shooting
jacket, and gaiters. A pier cm:* laced up boots and .We,P,
'Mantis; he had a back gammon hoard and men, ylkich
were put into time hag ; be (tined at one o'clock that .deiy ;
I understood he was going out of town, and fetched a
c 'act, for him at neatly three o'clock. I got it from the
stand opposite the Spotted Dog. It drove up to St. (le•
iner,t's Church and then up liolywell Street; the carpet
bag and duithie•barrelled gm' were put io ; Mr. Weare
hail a hull waistcoat on and a new olive coat • he hid a
double cased gold watch and a chain, which 1 kn
[The watch and chin were here handed up, and identitied
by witness; some shirts and col:ars and other articles of
wearing apparel were also Identified as the property of Mr.
We're.]
Thomas Cave examined.-.-1 RID driver of a hackney coseh;
drove for Mr. Heckert three weeks; during that time I took a
gentleman op at Lyon's Inn; he was the only one .1 took up
from that place during these three weeks; a young woman
called me ; a carpet bag and gun were put in ; this was In Oc-
tober, but I do not remember the week, but have no doubt It
was the week in which the murder in Hertfordshire was com-
mitted; I drove him to Charing Cr..., and thence to Maddox
street. amid then to Cumberland street, New road ; here htr ot
out, and after being away a little. reterued with a tail gentle-
man in a lough coat; they carried awry the things ; the lamps
were partially lighted.
Thomas Wilson Broderick.-1 am a horse patrol ; I was on
duty on the night of the 2 tth October on the Edgware road ;
I do not k tow the prisoner, John Thurtell ; I met a gig about
Ore Imilewsed • half from Tyburn Tarapike; the horse was a
naafi grey, and they were driving furiously. The horsh had a
white face; I have shen it since at Mr. Probate's stables,
where I pointed it out.
Cross-exicchmed by Mr. Awortaws.-elt was light Itnouttfor
me to distinguish thelterse. I master drseribed to any. o hat
the horse was different from a roan grey. The horse wallicileu
tip the road where you were, afterwards in order for me to in-
spect. I knew tt was coming ; I never said that t haitbefore
taken It fur a grey, but now foetid it to be a roan. •
James Shepherd.—l am ostler at Mr. Cross's Livery
Stables, Whitcomb Street. I know the prisoner Hunt;
he came to hire a gig at my master's stables on Friday,
the 24th October; it was a dark green gig; I saw the
horse in it, and Hunt told me he was going to Dartford.
The horse was a kind of roan colour, but there was no.

thing reinatkeble in him; he had s white face.
Stephen March, examined by Mr. HOLIAND.•—•I aro
ostler to Mr. Probatt, the liveryman; 1 know Hunt; !
1 recollect his hiring a horse on a Friday ; it was the
Friday on which, as I heard, the murder was committed ;
it was a dark roan; he hired it to go to Dartford ; he wall
to put it in a gig; he brought it back on Saturday. On
Sunday he borrowed a bay horse and a yellow gig. He I
brought them bad; in tile middle of the next day. •Oss
Slontlay when he returned them, lie said he shuald want'
a horse at half pact three ; he hod the roan hurse and ra,l
gig at shout half past three. I examined the gig when WI
returned; It was dirty, and so was the horse; thee' was a
little blood at the bottom of the gig ; the horse was die-
tressed; whip nasal rust cut one.
By Mr. PnaTc.— Did not see any one but Hunt.
Caxwell examined by Mr. Ilona:ea.-1 am
shopuran to Mr. Bill, pawnbroker, of High street, Mary-
leboune ; 1 sold a pair of pistaa tlioae now prodeccds
with a k v and a mould, to tau men, stroluers to inc ;one
WAS tall and the other short ; it eas on the 24th o,t. ; 1
received 11. 15s. far them ; 1 should nut know the persons
of the men.
John Butler examined by Mr. BRODERICIL -1 am ostler
at the Bald faced Stag, EJgeware; I rem ember the 24th
of October last, a Friday; I. saw Mr. Pi o!iert between iris
and seven at the Inn ; he was alone in a chaise draws by a

bay horse.
Wm. Clarke examined by Mr, BOLLAND —1 was landlord
of the White Lion, Edsteware ; 1 knew John Martell
1 saw bins on the 24th Oat. about seven o'clock, near the

nine mite stone; ha was in a gig, another was with hint ; it '
was a .% hi te faced horse; 1 Ica, then going to Hine* *rang-
Icy ; I returned bow', and there saw Prubert and Hunt in
a gig ; they had tome brandy and water ; we talked about
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not be mistsken as to the d.y. The horse is in.the town
here. It could not be a difficult matter for a person who
understood horses to distinguish the horse by his white

face.
Robert Field examined by Mr. BOLLAND.-...1 kno v Pro-
bers; lie called .t my house in his chaise with another
person, whom I now know to be Hunt, on the 24th of
October. They had five glasses of brandy and water ;
Probert asked his frieud to sing, he said he could not.
They slopped half an hour. Probert's was a broaD horse.
My house is a few hundred yards from Elatree. I saw the'
singing man on Monday with John Thurtell, about hall--
past fine in the evening. They called at my house and
smoked their pipes. If saw Hunt the next day. allow a
quarter past eight in the evening; he came from London.
1 gave the constable a sack and shirt wiliest were in me
possession, given me by him; I gave him the same that he
gave use.
By Mr. PLATT.-1 am certain-as to the time. Coaches
pass my house fro:ineptly.
Richard Bingham examined by Mr. Baum:ice, in
,the presence of Mary Molony.-1 am ostler at the White
Lion, Edgware. 1 rcollect two gentlemen calling there in
a gig on the 24th October. One bad whiskers down to
his month, and a sallow complexion. The other had high
cheek boner. -
Mary Molony Was now sworn, and said the description I
t e first person corresponded with the appearance of
Mr. rare.
ghaot re-examined—Said the taller of the two Gen•
tle had a white coat on. 1 should not know the horse
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ag . A second gig came up in the coarse of the
eve
.ing with two other Gentlemen, whom I should not
ntk w again. • -.
Cross-examined by Mr. ANDREWS.—The first gig might
have got on a mile or more. before the erriVal of the
seennd,
James Freeman examined by Mr. BRODERICK.I am a
labourer at a place near Mr. Probert's cottage. On Friday
evening 24th of October 1 went out at about eight o'clock
to Gill's Hill-lane ; there is a gate about thirty pules from
Probert's; I saw too gentlemen in a gig; I heard the gig
before I saw it ; it must have rouse by Probert's cottage
very rapidly; one of the gentlemen got out; I spoke to
ono of them; i saw the horse had a white face; it is the
horse 1 have seen here; the moon was not up; it was a
starlight night; it was between eight arid nine ; 1 should
not.know etth-r of them; one had a long white coat; 1
went out to meet my wife and see her home.
Cross examined by Mr. PLATT.—I t was not a yellow gig,
and I have;never said it was.
Here the learned Jadge was obliged to retire, apparently
in a state of exliaustion. He was supported out by the
Nobility and Gentry wha were round the Bench. He
returned in a few minim s, and
Philip Smith was called and examined by Mr. BRODR-
RICK.—.I was at Mr. Nicholls' en the 24th of October with
my wife and child ; we returned a little before eight. I on
foot, and my wife and child io a little chaise; 1 heard the
report of a gun and groans ; I was not leading my donkey
chaise, I was walking behind it.
Addis examined by Mr. BOLLAND.--..-1 was servant to
Mr. Probert in October last. My master had a horse and gig
ahoy' two mouths before that time. On Friday night the 111,th
of October, about a quarter before eight o'clock, I heard a gig
go by my master's house. I thought it was my master coming
home and I went out; the gig was going very fast. About
nine o'clock there was a ring at the gate bell. Mr. Thurtell
was there when I reached the gate. He was standing by a
boric and gig when I went into tee stable. I have seen the
horse iii London : Mr. Probatt shelved It me. The horse is of
an iron grey colour. 1 saw it bad come from Battler's Green
road the night Thurtell came. Ile said he was going to walk
down to see if he could meet Mr. Probert. I took the horse
in. John Tbartell desired me not to put up the gig. When
he returned I was going to throw the cloth over the horse.--
I saw a gun in the gig, poking out; It was tucked within the
lender of the gig.—Ou Saturday morning I lifted up
a erpet beg which was on the . ground.-1 saw a
hoz fil the parlour (the one produced is the erica.)--Either
Probert or Tburtril desired me to feteh the box mit of the
parlour. and put it Into the gig.—Thurtell had on a light
greatgoat ; my roaster came bode on the first night about
three quarters of an hour after Timid% had oome , Hunt
and ray master were in the gig ; 1 saw some spots of blood
on Thurtell's great coat. 1 saw hint wash it with a sponge,
on Friday night, iu about tb.ee quarters of an hour after
my master had come home, he went out and fetched the
sponge, dipped it in the water, and rnbhesi it on his coat ;
1 saw my master, Hunt, and John Thurtell together ; my
master came to the stable door and asked for a lantern,
which I gave to him. They all three went out of the gate
together with the lantern, in thedirection of Mr. Nieboll;
tt,ey were out about three quarters of an hour ; when they
returned 1 heard rimy master tell Susan to put the pork
chops oo; 1 then went into the stable, and Tisurtell and
Hunt came to me. 1 think 'fburtell was apooging his
coat ; they went into the house. and 1 went into the
kitchen ; .1 saw my master. who cause out for a
I bottle of rum, which he kept in the kitchen. 1 saw
I Thurtell have a watch in his hand, and I heard Mrs.
Frahm say. it was awkward to have a watch without a
chain :to which lie replied, it was. 1 went to bed at
twelve. On Saturday niorniog, when 1 got up, 1 cleaned
the horses and led the cows. 1 saw Hunt and Thurtell in
the kitchen about fire o'slock. Hunt was then sponging
ir Titurtell's coat all over. 1 cleaned their boots ; they were
I very dirty. My master seemed in low spirits, and walked
about the yard. Hunt wu dressed in a dark coloured cost.
I 1 was scot on a message to Mr. Nicholls ou the Sunday.
1 went down to Gill's Hill Line. When 1 examined the
place, there seemed to be a great deal of blood on the
ground. On Monday morning I went to Lond.rn with Mrs
Thomas lion-tell Hunt took me to Tetsall's. I bad
nothing to do in London.
Cross.examined by Mr. Aarortews.-1 had been often up
and down Gill'e Hill Lane, it is very narrow, and there is
much mud ; it is impossible for a gig to turn round in
the lane. The first time the gig passed on Friday night
it would be very near Mr.Nicholls's bouse. The first time
I saw my master on Saturday morning was about five
o'clock. Ido not remember what time he went out that
night.
Cross examined by Mr. Tnesstesa —My master told me
t at he hail no further occasion for me, and Hunt would
get me a situation in town.
Susan %Voodruffe was then called in.
The Junes nosy desired to knoW if the Jury wished to
adjourn for the night. He could not by the law of the land
discharge them, but if they desired to retire, they might

be pemitted.
The Foremen of the Jury, after consulting with his
beother Jurymen, expressed a wish to go on.
The witness (Susan Woodruffe) was then examined by
Mr. BRODURICK.—Iirard on the 51.1111 of October, a gig
pass her master's cottage at half past eight. She
saw Tburtelt afterwards, who came into the
kitchen. She saw something on going' to stir
the fire, which seemed to have been rolled up
Supper was ordered, and afterwards put off, as her master
Hunt and Thurtell, were going our. After they came born
trii had supper. Thurtell and Hunt sat up that night;
had not seeu Thurtell there bef"re. Rose next morning at
six o'clock, and met Hunt and Thurtell coming up the steps.
of the gardens their boot. and shoes were very muddy.—
Aftemrards she went err fetch some water. She went into
'the piss-lour, and saw Thurtell'oe the sofa ; he had her mas-
ter's wirier int on. She saw a hag in the parlour ;_ it was
not like that now prodskoad: There were two bundles be-
side. *Le saw frioraeud Thurteil set off from the cottage;
they bad tins black bats oar Ua Monday morning witness

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od song, upon which 11r. IteetVa Watson well. was said to we.
By ^Mr. 4stortrws.-1 do not know that any thing
log.r.asw.-1 keep the certain lifts meant by the observation about Mr. Reece. It
. The twn Thartells was on the 25th Oetuber I saw Hunt, on Saturddv; I can-