The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-06-01 00:00:00

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WOE COMM EMORA I lON DINNER int the 4tli
J. of June.—Noblemen. Gentlemen. and Subscribers to
die MONC MENTAL TROPHY In }lonoar of bis late
lieje‘tv KING GEORGE 111.. desirous of attending the
.CONEIIF.NIOR AVON DINNER. are
sandto apply to
their Frieuds amongst the Viee-Presidents Stewards,
so will be furnished with Tickets.
IL R.. U. the Duke of YORK and ALBANY. K. G.
in the Chair.
VICE-PRESIDENTS :
V.:11. the Doke of Sesselt, The Earl of Lonsdale. K. G.
he G. The Marl of klanagold
The Lord Chancellor The Earl of Morley
The puke of Dorset The Earl of O'Neil, K. P.
The Duke of Gordon. K. T. k
The Doke of Montrose. K. 0.
T., D. of Newcastle. K. O.
'Vv. Duke of Northumber-
lsnol. K. O.
The Puke of Rittlead, K. 0.
rho Wellingtoa.
h Marquess of *messes,
K. U.
The Wm. of Camdon.KM.
TtiOlarq.( on' K.P.

The Earl of Onslow
The Karl of Pomfret
The Earl of Romney
The Earl of Shaftesbury
The Earl Temple
iToe Karl of Wohlegrate
The Earl of Westroorhutd,
E.G.
The Earl of Whitworth,
G. l'. B.
The Viscount Dudley and

" The Case for Wadi 11411111 MN

-DI AN DANA TOOTH PO I3ER and IAYrION.
-LB —Mrs. FISHER, Widow of the late Mr. named
Fisher, Sergron-Deqtist. of No. M. Leleester-sqvare, begs
most reipeetfally to lefbrat the Nobility, Gentry, and the
Public in general. that they ma be supplied. as usual. with
the above POWDER and • leaf whieh she Is now
sole Proprietor, mad which has been se long bald in the
highest estimation by Members of the lest rank sad fashion),
M. applying at her residence. No. M. Great Titehtleid-
sireet, Ifitzroy-mptare : Mr. ertilekshank,9l. Charles-street.
St. James's-squar♦; Mr. Sanger's (late Races), Oxford-
street, nearly opposite New onttsareet : Mr. Forbes. lOU.
Strand; and at 11S. St. Martin's-lane, Charing-cross.—
None are genuine names signed in her own hand-writing.

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the pri
titioner.
Dr. PHILLIMORE thought it *as too much In says
that the House ought not to hear the Petitioner. The
argument against bearing him would apply to the case
of a prisoner in a foreign country, on whose behalf a
person might always address the House against a pri-
nts Bill.
Mr. ABERCRONIBY said, that if the House was
not able to administer justice itself, it might hear the
petitioner; but be (Mr. A.) thought the hearing of ,
this petitioner would lead to great inconvenience as a
preredeot. Hs thought there were persona within the
walls of the House fully competent to advocate the
canoe of the Slaves.
Mr. FM' RTEN A Y said, he thought there was same
reason for departing front the ordinary rules of the
House affecting Private Dills, and that the House might
safely hear the Petitioner.
Mr. ItitifiHT °prised the Petition on the ground

of precedent.
Mr. BROCCIII.I3I cou:d scarcely believe the Hon.
Washers serious who supported the Prayer or the Pe-
tition. In the name of regularity he wished to know
Where this was to end? Any tlentleman might on a
future occasion call himself the next friend of an indi-
vidual, and might ask to be heard at the bar of that
House against a Bill. The House would soon have to
hear the nest friend of the unrepresented persons of
England—(('beers.)—and the question of Parliamen-
tary Reform wonlilhe discussed at the bar of the House.
This petition was dictated he believed by the best of
motives, and came front the must respectable autho-
rity ; lint this was not to be consideted in looking at
the abstract question.
Mr. F. BUXTON said, the orpositi.nt to the peti-
tion was founded on the mere argument that a com-
pliance with it would he a slight de‘i.stiou (two the
forms of the Iloose. Ile should support the peti•ion.
Strangers were then ortle,r4l to withdra‘‘, and the
House divided upon the motion for hearing the Peti•
tioner, when there apreued—
For the Motion, •i 5 it, 151 ;-31.1jo-
rity, 1(19. lino
The liiil uas then ordered to he read a 6;•conil
this day.

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wool have quite enough of teens. awe .—,d0i..7. ~_...,,1,
might he as well employed at the Trowel lli- gn•
business of the' Board, ai doing what • trai &row alto
business of that House. The two Sectetaries he would
sot touch—they were useful mid intilligent persons.
The office of Foreign Secretary, the House saw so ably
filled by the Noble Lord opposite, and of came no
doubt could be entertained of the propriety of his re-
maining in the House. The Rome Secretary and the
Secretary for the Colonial Department, at present filled
hr Peers, slionld also remain eligible for the House of
Commons. The Secretary for Ireland he sbOuld not
abjectto, bat as to the Vico-Treasurer of Ireland, be
really could see no use whatever for him. He bad besot
iao minority on a motion of the late Mr. Ponsonlly for
reduciug the salary of that Officer from 3,500/. to
LOOK per annum, which would have heels carried in
the affirmative, hot for the Placemen in the House, with
negatived the motion by 100 against 99. He should nest
advert to the India House, from erhich they had foot
Members. Out of these Oentlemen he would retain
only the President, and turn the other three out.
They were of no manner of use there, and, be believed.
nn where else. They had net heard the word "India"
fall from the month of any individual in that House
since the year IPI3. They had seen nothing of their
annual boil:refs since that time, and, in short, knew
Mo more of It than they did of the platfet Jupiter. No
one thought of it—no one seemed to care whether it
swam or sunk, whether the inhabitants were happy or
miserable: and, as he said before, they had heard
nothing of it since 1413, except a motion of an lion.
Friend behind hi 1., and a vote of amok. for the M sr-
II guess i.f Ilastings! All the asseverations of Mr. Pit!,
mail" in the usual flourishing way of that great mas-
ter of the art of tionrishing, as to the Officers of that
Hoard Join,' their work for nothing, hail been falsified.
lie .!lould next r• to the Board of Adsoirs;ty, from
which they hail seven Member.. Tkere were the titre
Lords, at 10114$/. a•year eacli• and the two I 'otoptrollera.
and what did they ilo:- They spoke a little when the
Navy l'..titstati.s i awe to be IlisrlIA•I'll : lint when they
found one Noble Lord (Lorti Pa'nierston) belonging.
to another department, lighting singly as arduous
and voluminous a tear. as bail ever been carried on
upon the Estitnatea, what could be the use of seven
fur this department, except to encircle the Government
with a ho ly of att.ti orb allies in all their en•erprlses ?
Thee iiii.;lit hr everllent adherent' of Government,
hot they were eery had Nletothera of Parliament. The
Treanrer lie skonlil
the
ttnilistu:be•l. and also two
Lot Is, and lie lior I the time was coming when they
should hear no mot., a Lay Lord.. Ile ghoul I alga
Wye the Secretory, and that was being more liberal
than Ito witalil he, exeept that he a isheil to meet the
samples GI those who might be oppitaral to him half
way. lie next Caine to the I Ordnance, belonging tit
which ails-wine:lt there were four sittin
rain that
Homo.. lie propos.nl to leave only two, n
Government to elin,e which of them they ;draw& The
Secret try at war, of coheir, he 'mid leave in the
'tumid!
Mow, And hold him op a' a pattern of how a Board
mi flit hr carried on by one offi ter only. The dodge Adv.'.
este and the Paymaster of the Army he should alto I save.
Then there was the Master of the Mint, whom indivi-
dually .peaking hr should be sorry to lose, but am
Master of the Mint he did not know what title he hail
to ,it there. lie believed there were two persons at-
tached to the Woods and Forest.. one of whims would
hr atslll,:leut. Neat there were persons ronnected with
the lloustelsold that, he thong:lst, were entirely out if
idare. There were two Lords of the B
had edchamber,
rersinly fight had no ght there ; nor any
who of
those, roe opting perhaps one, belonging to the lionse-
•10141. They did nut belong to theta—they gave them
no stittlea of information, and nothing bat their votits
roue the rlovernment. There were also many law Of-
(I 'ern. in his opinion toe many ; especially there was
the Chief .testice of Chester, who he thought most nn-
-onstitn ionally held a seat in that House. With re-
...wet to the Master' of Chancery, they bad disappoint-
ed the hope of the sucedoisors of the Irish Matter: but
he did not think the English Master in Chancery had
any right is that House. They were servants of the
House of Lords, and could not be in the Honse of Con.
molts without neglecting eteir duties elsewhere. lie
hail how, he helevedl, •pointed not fifty-ore Members
of that House removeable at the pleasnre of the Crown.
ffe propo.ed to remove twersty•aine of them, 3;iti he
thitight the House would the s he much fitter for the
discharge of its ditties to the nation. It would parti.
middy he rrusembered, that they had of late, in the
case of Lord Pi e.
had a proof that all of these Mem-
bers were ekpectf.4l to support the Ciovernment of the
thy. or anbmit to ilitioniasal. He only wished to oh-
%rear in fartheranee of his motion, that it bad sell-
(iv only leen the wise praetice of our ancestors, to re-
form at' 1., in the Constitution as they appeared. a-ii
then he inoilling a portion of Ist aids and wholesomeness
into the diseased body of the State, to refresh and re.
vivify it. lie cottld not help to ;king at this questiom
as one of the first an I most vital importancto canse. t
Wass
quite sure that unless that !laneswere
fr)Ors it all those useless place:nen, unless it wiped front
It character the stain a:: retainiqg them, it wsiul I :st
retain what it ought to retala— he affection of the
pentad.. If the lion. Membe7s s'sonlil refuse to as.ist
rhino in thus purifying and gOtting rid of that sy.teas
which tended to overwhelm hid's' • awl,. his ft-
an'sly in rein Intl stisasteir, Ana continuid: to
-fleet contnhtelionsly: 'err, ` propos:4 to .tr.eil
their sitn.iti .ft, let lit . ynylu.,n,e .be gn .
them. . rot his via !At, iie *led,allpys done ka
fit) conseientiousty as i'repreiwntiVe of ale .natioi
in that thmse, iiisildeconairetila wag setlag i• •37 .
*latently in snoring for lefve to hcing• in a Mil for
"better securing the in Lee deuce of Parliatnent.'' I
• Mr. ROBI '.SCIN cooipiime:lted the Hon. Geptlevna%
4:11':Iti tettere and mobs:a:ion he had exhibited in tile
early.iiiil'of lsill.itecis„
,lii, w. s aware that any (vie
4ettillgifilti that Home to of aml hat
of vie
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nitite alas Mid. Priem!, was sure to have a tdegree.
of pipulal• dislialsi'cast alien lam, la, and hall his taotiir
oraitned 11,1 no !tiny uoceretti,utoiSimanner. irtftin
aigtestioq of Hai -kin,rl,. if:nisi:ill !It. .Literts _ 4
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