The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-05-18 00:00:00

Sir J. NEWPORT r.ttiten.leti that the alterati.tn

the currency of the country, since the time that tler
addition was made to the •alary of the Liml Lien'—
naut,inereaced the value of money; sll,oollt. a year its
I sl2, was Hot at all so great it sum in po.tit of value
:la 311,0110/, a year ic I a2O. 11 its respect to the ta-
lary being t iken out of the Civil List, that was the
arrangement originally made, so far, ..t least, 35 the
Civil List could hear it. Considering the aiitference
which the depreciated state of tlc.• curretiey mails. I.e
did not think that the decision of 11.612 has a decis...,:i
that could he binding now.
Mr. C. GRAN i said, that the link,. of Itielimi••..l
had greatly suffered in his private fortune in cou.i -
quence of the inadequacy of his salary. 'I he 1.1:•
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland had asserted, that the r.-
creased salary of 311,000/. a year was barely suffici.:it
to meet his expenses. With respect lii the I.resctit
Lord Lieutenant, lie might addr frum the very hest au-
thority, that his Lordship was an annual loser by his
office, though he practised every vossible ecurioiliy
consistunt with the splendour and dignity of his static:..
Mr. TIERNEY :twists 40011Ittetrowe was a charge uf
!NV for lretanti, and the Mien was called upon lc
entertain that charge without having a prolier.rsi:-
mate laid before them, and a Ithout previous I,lyliry
intit the different items of which that sum h.:is e ti: _
I used. Whi.t had been said on the other siili •..it :1
respect to the expenses of the Lord I.l.entt iim.t of ire•
land, might be true ; it might be true that 3i1,1m(1 . A
year was not sufficient to support I' ; but the who:.•
expenses of the Lord Lieutenant were not to lie iirfrac cif
out of the public purse, whilst he was to slice the ..:11.•1 •
amount of his private fo•tune. 'the othee was nut con-
sidered an office of profit, it was an (Are of dignity
and of honour—Resides, it was an office to which non.
sitlerable patronage was attached. It was said, that
211,0011/. a year was entirely too sitiall—that Lwil
Lieutenants were, of course, at considerable loss. by
aceepting that other, hut he purer knew of that ober .
having been refused because of the IH;;lleektLiey . f the
salary attached to it. W hen called upon to make a
permanent arrange Gent, was it too much !bid the
same scrutiny, the Kalil:, . tram:nation, should be Me-
shed, with respect to Ireland, that was pursued with
respect to England, when the expenses of the Sove-
reign were initnired ;ht... and hi, rrovision aseertsined
Sur:ly tits Vei.reseilta::.ve of the Sovereign cau4l rut
oloji ct to the same course being pursued whit respi..t
to Mtn.

air H. PARNELL contended that the nth 'e of Loi I
Lieutenant of Ireland was altogether mete. as it n
expensive. He teas of opinion that having sepa
tiovernments for England and fur Ireland lead to is
convenience and embariasonent. At present it v
well kn,orn that a set ions division existed betwer,, :!ir
members of the Government of that country. 'l,, t e

present Lord Lieutenant and the Hight Hon.
wan opposite (,Mr. Crain) every thanks and grati•:. r
were due. That night Hon.lientletnan had dispiayed
Moth policy anal liberality, inte rrity in his views. a-.. 1
conciliation in his manner—(l(.2r, hear!)—bst h•••
regretted to say that other members of the Irish 1..-
vernment were ii..t di,tin:.uisheil for rimilar
He believed that the office of Lor,l Lieutenant. in,t.a.l

of ar.expense of 341, c 0.,. the maim% at trim linot,-(;;.
Independent of the satin: of a.) large a min, it wot,
prAtice regularity awl uniformity in the tirteni of t-e
tiovernmeot if the office were altoirether

Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the Civil List o:
Ireland had been already under the consisleratioo of
Committee of that House, and every item of the ex-
penditure had b,rn already examined. With resps•ct
to the alteration of the classes, that alteration seas
made for the purpose of giving better and more dis-
tinct information : he would have no objectiGn to any
further inquiry, if it should be deemed necessary.
rather than that the Bill before the House shounl
stand still. He dilered altogether with the Hots.
Baronet in the conclusion he came to with respei t
the abolition of the office of Lord lieutenant. He
was of opinion, that questions of local ronsi.leratiou
as well as of general p •liry, would make t&e experi-
ment a very hazardous onr, which wand go so try bow
far the Government or Ireland could he carried cn by
mere impulse from this country. With resrect to the
alteration in the valor of money, in consequence of ths
change in the cum.:try of the country, he had only to
sav, that if the Hight Hon. Baronet opr,ise bad, in
bia private expens.w, etrectri a sating of live aa-i-

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