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eminent of the Country, and the disbursements
of its finances. 'rlie fact he had already men.
dosed, namely, the case of Lord Melville, was
&efficient to skew the fallacy of that assertion.--,
(Cries of only one instance.) There might be
other instances, which proved the contrary ,of
what he contended ; but he would not take mere
Assertion against the well-known and established
practice adopted by Parliement, when any grow
abuses existed in the Government of the country.
Before he would latent to the justice of the asser-
tion, he must have instanced such acts as were
in violation of that doctrine. (Several voices
cried, Lord Castlereagh for one). He could
not but admit that the conduct of that Noble
Lord was unworthy of a public man, and he only
wished that the Howie of Commons was con.
strected in conformity to the opinion of excel.
WNW formed br the worthy Gentlemen whom he
miltoemod. (tries of Question! Question !)
To speak to the wiestion was his sexism' desire ;
bat, at the seem time, he could not suffer senti.
went@ which, in his opinion,_ were unfounded, to
go by without an answer. lie should not, how-
ever, misuse the indulgence the Worthy Livery
Bed shown bias but proceed to offer the senti.
mode which seemed to justify his conduct. And,
fin speak to the question, he must say, that he was
mot the men who would subscribe to the doctrine

a repeatedly urged, that the country was in a
deplorable situation. (Groans, hisses, esti cries
of .fl se! assailed the worthy Sheriff, and
his repeated attempts Is regain s hearing were
ffirstilkss.) . Whea
Mr. QUIN-ease forward, end begged the at.
lestioa of the Livery to the few words he should
sir epos the subject. The first great object for
Oak consideration, in his opinion, was the series
ltd ileeolneloas just read. To every syllable of
am Sea he amid net bat give his must moque.
rt-thliesit ; and the only objection he had to
that followed, was, that they did nut ex.
=in terms *elle:leerily strong, the present
table state of the country. He was nut at
all surprised at the hostility shelve to the Gentle.
ass who usly half.rddresseil them last, when he
considered the motives which must have operated
on the minds of Gentlemen in so doing.—.
Doubtless the Livery could not be ignorant of
the proceedings which took place in fhe Court of
Commas Council, upon the subject of an ad.
dress proposed and carried by a Worthy. Mem.
bar of the Corporation, and the subsequeist mo.
tion of the worthy Sheriff, in order to have that
Address reconsidered, and another substituted in
ills steed, contrary to all the established orders
aid forms of the (Curt. With respect to the first
Address, as far as he was licquainted with its me.
it be could not help declaring, that it was
eateebed in terms of firmness; and at the same
ems
y becoming the Corporation of London.
in latepage of respect to the Sovereign)
saw no reason whatever fur its re.considera.
lies. It might be said, to be sure, that it was
roweled only by a single vote. That might be
perfectly tree; hut surely it did not, in any de.
grout lessen the solemnity of the decision, or
the complete and full concurrence to its pro.'
piety. The impeachment of Lord Melville was
tarried upon the decision of a casting voice, and
/allowed up to the bar of the House of Lords
with the same regularity as if the decision had
been made by a numerous majority. lie begged
the attention of the Hall, however, to this juggle
at the Corporation, fur call it by any other
same he could not. The Address is carried by
a majority of one, and the Sheriffs have the ho-
llow' of waiting upon his Majesty, to know his
Royal pleasure when the Address should he pre.
sented at the (out of the throne. His Majesty
Sees a distant day—there is a kind of interlude
is the meantime. The Address is re.considered,
and the Court cause to a determination to violate
all the rules and established practices of the Court
of Common Council. What a deplorable situa-
tion the City of London must be reduced to, in
the opinion of his Majesty, a• such extraorili.
nary inconsistency in its conduct ! How unfor-
tunately contemotible must the titillation of the
worthy Sheriffs be, on preserving this new Ad.
dress, and informing his Majesty, in approaching
his Itnyel presence, that the Addrsas which he
bad gear' wily appointed a day to receive was
sow no more; and that they were about to pre.
sent his hiAj•sty an Address totally different from
the former. Stich contempt he could out but say
would be very justly deserved. He begged tii say
• few words with respect to the Resolution itself.
It was iiirusrible to view, without the utmost dn.
ova) and distress, the waste of bits rd and tree.
lure, by this phantasmagoria of administration
in the ear exhibited on the Continent within the
last year. The prospect was bleak and distress.
ing. Looking at the Expedition to Waleheren,
it wield of be necessary fur him to dwell fur
• sommest epos the progress a se oatorttsaate
Expedition, which was characterised in its ter.
areation by nothing but shame and disaster. In-
deed, in every point of view our aftirs, both at
Uwe and abroad, exhibit en appearance inkuitely
Om awful then language could describe. At
bone we were taxed beyond all precedent, and,
what was more piling, the taxes were called fur
before the services for which they were required
were accomplished. There was scribing under the
heavy imposts to which we were subject, which
scald cheer our spirits, or give us hope of a
change for the better in our affairs. Still, how.
over, the manifestoes of Ministers were filled
with the most dattering description of the miry.
ales they had performed in the improvement of the
fisanews, and the vast addition made to our defen.
Aire stsingth. This to be sere could net surprise
the Livery, when they, the Ministers, advanced
aim to the rank of Admirals who had been dead
some isoaths. Certainly, the mast economical
node of adding to the strength of the country.
fLesselkoset.) He trusted the natural feeling
7 mat have for the welfare of their country
the knowledge they must have of its distress,
!tumid preclude the necessity of his entering into
say specific details, for the perpose of urging the
pocessity of the Resolution ender consideration.
lie was persuaded, that rakes some measures
were adopted to stem the torrent of abuses in the

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administration of our affairs, the greatest calami.
ties must continue to basil this unfortunate ana
devoted country.
Mr. WALTHMAN said, he had undergone so
much fatigue of late, and particularly on the day
preceding, in the Common Council, where he was
confined tor twelve hours, and took so laborious
a part in due discassioe of the Address there pro-
pomade-do that he was completely unfit to appear
before the Livery on the present occasion. Under
such circumstanced, therefore, if he failed of exert-
ing himself with his accustomed elect, he biped he
had a strong claim to their indulgence and compas.
sien. He could not but confess that, even under
all the disadvantages he appeared before them, he
could not refrain from offering some opinions upon
the masks.. It was entirely impossible fur him
to concur with the worthy Alderman (Atkins) in
his assertion, that the Parliament of the country
had a full and complete controul over the expendi-
ture of the country, and the measures of the
Crown. The worthy Alderman ought to have
given the Livery more instances than one to con.
viuce them or the truth of his proposition. Even
admitting that the instance quoted was eine affect-
ing the point in question, lie begged to ask the
worthy Alderman, what punishment was ever in.
flicted upon Lord Melville ? %Vas he not immedi.
etely after the impeachment reinstated in his Ma.
jesty's Councils I and du not two of his relations
now enjoy lucrative situations in his Majesty's
Goveratnent ? It was well known
,that be was
behind the curtain, end pulling the wires. lie
asked the worthy Alderman, What controul had
Parliament over the expenditure of the country,
when hundreds of thousands were squandered pro-
fusely- in sinecures? It must shock every man who
took the pains to examine into the list of pensions
and sinecures paid to men, for which they were
not doing any service to their country. He would
instance some of the must extraordinary of these.
The Marquis of Hertford had an income of
30,0001. of the public money. The two Seymour'
15,0001. The family of Lord Castlereagh received
at least 30,0001. or 40,0001. And the family of
Mr. Percival the same : The siuecures in the fa.
wily of the latter Gentleman amounted to 46,0001.
per annum. These were circumstances, be con-
tended, highly worthy the consideration of the
country. He could nut but ridicule the fallacious
boasting' of Ministers, who talked some time ago
of marching to Paris with an army, and reducing
the French nation to terms. The country heard
nothing then but " indemnity for the past, and
security fur the future." Instead of marching to
Paris, what were the measures pursued by Go.
vernment I So confident were they of their own
security, that they thought it necessary to erect
fortifications on the banks of the river L.mi, fur the
defence of London. (Laugh) Would Gentle-
men tell the country, therefore, that this was not
ao alarmiug crisis of affairs ? Contractors, and
men who fattened upon the waste of human blood,
might not think so ; but he trusted there were MUll
present whose minds were constructed upon dide.
rent principles, and who saw things in their tree
colour. He was sot now surprised at the ohjec.
don some Gentlemen entertained at the allusions
contained in the Address at first agreed upon
in the Common Council, with respect to the Wei.
holey family. That family was now rising into
Dower and influence, and it was natural for such
Gentleineu to worship the " Rising Sun," lit-
tle caring what became of those who were setting
in the political horizon; it was enough for them to
court the present, regardless of the past. There
were many topics he would wish to press upon
the minds of the Livery, but there were none so
important in his view as the necessity of urging a
reform in their own representation in the Com.
mon Council. That would be the first step to.
wards obtaining a radical reform in the abuses of
the country. The time now aoproached when it
was in titer power to remedy those evils of which
they had to complain. He exhorted them on the
approaching it. Thomas's Day, when the election
fur Members was to cueimeisce, to return such ho.
nest representatives to the Common Council, as
they might depend upon for a faithful discharge of
the duties impoed upon them. He concluded by
stating, that Isis wore') friend ( Hr. Favell), had
it in contemplation, after the R.-solutions were
agreed to, of proposing fur their consideration au
Address to be presented to ms Majesty, similar to
the one at first proposed to the Common Cuuucil.
The Resolutions were then severally read, and
agreed to unanimously.

Mr. FAVIILL then read the Addresi he proposed
to be presented to hi% Maje4ty. (For •kith tee
tAe Resolutions ix Ernst Page.)

It was seconded by Mr. Jos% and carried
unanimously.
The Millie was ordered to be presented to his
Majesty by the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs.

Mr. Alderman Woo Di Rod Mr. Aldermen AT.
hiss (the Sheriffs), severally, in imlJres►ive
speeches, professed their di'position to nuaint.►in
strictly and inviolably the privileges and freedoms
of the Livery of London.

The Thanks of the Hall were then voted to the
several Members of the Common Council who
supported the Address to his Majesty first pro.
posed in the Common Council, and to those who
were in the minority in the second Address for
their firmness and manly conduct.
The Thanks of the Hall were also voted to Mr.
Walthmae fur his faithful service., not only on
the present, but on all occasions where the ink:.
rests of his fellow citizens enquired his exertions
and support. Mr. Weitbman returned thanks in
sa appropriate speech.
A Resolution was also proposed by Mr. Ming.
lay, and seconded by Mr. Griliths, urging the ne.
cealty of the Livery b select, at the ensuing eke.
lien, such mess for tbeir representatives in the
Common Council as. are distinguished by their
talents and integrity. Carried uuetinnoesly.
On the Motion of Mr. Waithman, the Thanks
of the Livery were voted to the Lord Mayor,
for his spirited and independent conduct during
the short period of his Mayoralty. For which hu
expressed his gratitude in a very polite and expres.
ive•maaur,r, who ills Hall adjoarred.

~IYIAIr.

CROWN AND ANCIIOR TI FERN.
DPINER OF THB REAL FRIENDS OF TRH
DRAMA.

The Public has repeatedly sew In the daily
prints, sneers, insinuations, and even open abase
of the characters of those who have manifested a
disapprobation of the conduct of the Proprietors
of Covent Garden Thertre. The 0. P.'s were
not only devoid of respectability, bet utterly con.
temptible. It could nut, therefore, but greatly
surprise Mr. &nible, as he passed up the Great
Room to the head of the table, after dinner, to
see 500 as respectable individuals as perhaps ho
ever saw assembled at any public dinner.
The Chair was taken a few minutes after five
o'clock, cud the dinner, which was excellent, was
conducted with the greatest order and propriety.
Immediately after the cloth was removed, Mr.
CLIPPOILD gave
THE KING.

which being drank, a burst of applause followed,
which (lid not subside for some minutes.

Mr. CLIFFORD then rose, amidst loud cheers
and huzzas, and addressed the Company to the
following effect :
" GENTLIIMEN—In consequence of my having
been appointed the Chairman of this Meeting, I
received a message this morning from Mr. KLIMA,
which produced an interview between that Gentle.
man and myself, in which he requested me to state
to you the sentiments of the Proprietors of the
Theatre and himself, on the subject of the unfor.
tunate dispute that has for so many nights existed
between the Public and themselves, which it was
their anxious wish to settle by every conciliatory
means in their power. He also said, ,Gentlemen,
that he should be extremely glad personally to
attend this Meeting, to state their sentiments on
the subject, but that he was apprehensive he
might not be treated with that civility, which I,
Gentlemen, made no hesitation in immediately
assuring him, that you would shew him. And I
pledged myself that if he should attend here, T, as
he Chairman of this Meeting, would not allow him
to cuter the room until I had a previous assurance
from you that he should meet with every possible
respect and civility from this company. psis
' was followed by Yes! yes ! Call king in! Cer-
tainly, certainly! accompanied by loud buzzes,
which continued some minutes.]-4n consequence
of that conversation, which I think it would not
be proper for me enter into, unless Mr. Kemble,
himself was present, he is now in attendance
in the house ; and, if it is your pleasure,
that he should come into the room, he will im.
mediately attend you. [Yes I yes! all! all ! all!
clapping and hums I) I entertain no doubt,
Gentlemen, that I am to consider this as an as.
surance that I shall be supported by you as the
Chairman of this Meeting, and that not the
slightest incivility shall be shewn to Mv.Kemble ?"
[Certainly: Yes. Clapping and beau.]
At W minutes after sit o'clock,
NIL. JOHN PHILIP KIMBLE
entered the room, accompanied by the Gentlemen
who had been deputed by the Chairman to signify
to him the pleasure of the Company. Mr. Kem-
ble bowed respectfully on entering the room, and
continued so to do right and left, amidst the cheers,
clapping, and hums of the Company, until he
reached the table at which the Chairman was
seated, when he took • chair on his right hand.
Tits dress of Mr. ILonhle was not distinguish.
able from the murning dress of any other Gentle-
man, wearing short bouts and a great coat.

Mr. CLIFFORD again rose. —" Gentlemen,
before Mr. Kemble's appearance in this room, I
stated to you that au interview had taken place,
the circumstances of which I will now, at his de.
sire, state to you. Mr. Kemble expressed meek
lamentation and regret at 'the disputes that hod
taken place, and the reason why nothing had beset
stated by the Managers was, that they did not know
to whom they were to address themselves ; bet
new that there was a public dinner on the occa.
non, he thought it right that an explanation, on
their part, should take place. Mr. Kemble said,
it was the anxious wish of the Proprietors
and Managers to accommodate and conciliate the
public, so far as that it did not lead to the utter
ruin of the property of the Proprietors ; and he
desired one to chalk out a plan that might be con.
sonata with the wishes of the public. During
the time that I was in conversation with Mr.
Kenble, I never saw in my life a person who, is
language and demeanour, seemed more desirous
of adopting conciliatory measures. I felt it my
duty to state to Mr. Kemble, that though I had
in some places hese called the leader of a mob, I
had not even the shadow of authority to treat on
the subject ; and therefore wished that he would
pond out what "concessions he thought might be
made to the public, without irretrievably injuring
Nee Proprietors.. Mr. Kembtv stattd, that lower:1
ing the prices would be felt very seriously by the
Proprietors ; but wished to know of what it was
that the public particularly complained. The
answer which I gave him was, that the ground
on which the public disapprobation was founded
was not so mach the increase of prices, though
that certainly was highly objectionable, as that
the public had been insulted by Magistrates
having been brought on the stage to read the Riot
Act—and hired persons beingsent into the body of
then Theatre toattack the Public, and Private Buxe4.
To that Mr.Kemble replied, that the appearanceof
the .Vagistrates on the stage seas their own act, and
not that of the Proprietors or Managers, nor at
their desire. As to the sending in of hired per.
suns, he himself lamented it extremely, for he
did not know that such a circumstance had taken
place, until he read it neat day in the Papers.—
[Here there was considerable disapprobation ex-
pressed by a very large portion of the Company.]
Gentlemen—When a person of respectability
makes an assertion to use, I feel myself at all times
rimpolled to believe that assertion to be true, and
M. lemble having said so, I have no doubt of
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MI • encl. [Disapprobation.) At last, after
mad conversation, Mr. Kemble asked me,
ediether, its my oplitiou, the Public would be sa-
tisfied, I having told hies that one important griev-
ance ass the Private Bases [loud clapping end

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