The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-05-27 00:00:00

Mr. BANK/FS rose to oppose the Motion, but

Lord CASILEREAGIi 'observed, though it waft
uo doubt competent to the lion. Gent. to object to

!real

Ilya-Speaker leaving the Chair, he wished to suggett
, that it would be better perhaps to debate (he principle
its the Committee, ac he had some information to
Communicate to the Hc,ese respecting the mode of ex-
ecutiog the Treaty, which the Hon. Gent. himself
would perhaps wish to be in possession of.
Mr. BANKES expressed his willingness to give
"
4he Speaker having left the Chair,
I ' Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he felt an anxious
desire to put Parliament in possession, so far as pos-
sible, of the extent of the charges likely lobe brought
on the country in the present Session of Parliameutl
and to captain to them the general nature of the ar•
rangements which had been entered into. fie con.
sidered it a duty he owed the House to apprise them
now of any other description of service or elpenCe:
connected with the foreign expenditure of the coun-
try as arising .out of these 'Treaties, that he 'might
find it his duty in the present Session to bring before
Parliament; and he was bound therefore,. in can.
dour, when the ilouie were making provision for
this foreign expenditure, to inform them now of the
whole extent of the service. When the other sums
came to be submitted to Parliament, it would he
found that they were neither a subsidy nor a gra-
tuitous grant to another country, bat a payment -in
consequence of an arrangement between this country
and other States, equally advantageous to all parties.
He should, in the present Session of Parliament., and
as soon as this Convention was ratified; io a shape to
I lay it before Tarliamenti bang this -matter-forward,

'The arrangement related to the cession of the col.. the frontiers another army of 150,000 m •n, under
tiles of Ilu;laud to this country. From the moment General Wittgenstein; and the Entkier.,r had signi-
that Hollawd returned to her ancient state, and be- fled to his Royal Highness the Prince Recent his rea.
came connected again with this country, there was diners to pet in motion thk army, if exigencies should
!nothing so: little congenial to the feelings of the render such a measure necessary. No money that it
House as a. wish to apply the rights of war rigidly to was in our power to grant could create such an army
Holland, and to continue in the possession of its co- —all that we could possibly do was to assist them in
lonies withiut an equivalent; and if no arrangements their efforts. That force of 225,000 men was very-
Meld be midi for such an equivalent it would be nearly advanced to the Rhine, and in such a stit'. of
perfectly kreign to this country to retain them.-- military efficiency as never was exceeded lis any
1 This was lot therefore a paymeet on the principle of army. The tlii:el Power which had made such great
a subsidy-rit was not a gratuitous grant, bet en ar- exertions daring tee last war, to the .treat admiration
cangemeutibetween two Crowns, in which certain of every min, had not confievel himself to the stipu-
,colouies ate ceded to this country, in consideration lations of the :Freely, bt4t had silt co is, of 1.36,(00
••f out plying the half of charges which would other- men in the whole, in an eremite state. Bst the
Witte-have fallen on Holland alone. These colonies House were entitled to enquire from him. and iii .vas
were materially connected with the interests of this anxious to anticipate them in their wish for inform-
country. -They Were important with a view to our lion, whether our pecuniary assistance oas t.i he con-
possession" le the Enst [tidies; and in Demerara, fined in the thre.. great Powers, ant/ whether such
Berbice, end-other Dutch Settleinentsin the West In. other Powers as might join the common cause were
ales, threw-fourths of the whole British capital in to shire all the difficuhis without receiving any ex_
Weil WO Colonies might be considered to be vest. tent of assistance? He thought it right that the
1 ea. • it beetles, important, therefore, to bring these house should know what was the extent of that de. - -
colonies finder the natural protection of this country. scr4nion of fore, and whet was 'he raloe of the
i This was Pot a proposition connected with war, but rid which they were ;ikely to receive from fig geeing
Parltansent would be called on in the course of the stated the force of the great Powers, he lid not wish
preepst. year to contribute one Million in cense- to miter mite a 'stateme..t t.' each subordinate Power.
quenee 'hat arra(' ement."That was the only Considering Gr at Britain and Holland separately,
1 art which would come into consideration in tie he would estimete•the other Poe ers .ogether—some
course of the present year. 'Titre was another ar- of -thtim itoirlik bang, considerable forces into the
field: Bavaria, 'for itipince, had an army of 60,000
men, of the very lost sles.-ripti:m. The forms win&
that Power, with Wirtembere. Baden. Hesse, Sax- •
on)-, the ense Towns, and the small States on the
Rhine, Would bring into the field, attemn:oll to
150,000 men, •besides what was already stated. :That
collective mass w-...s independent of the force of the
three great rowers, and the force of Great Br ;Mitt and
Holland. The British force would be, 50,000 men,
and the King of the Netherlands was to furnish au
equal amount of 50,000 men to the Confedeeary.--
posi _ There were actually. 30,0(10 of them in wishes and
trot of Ansley*, to •be *eved of the field, and the remainder of the forte was iii a
—. -....--
I sass to 6e orrw 'ant- state of preparation, and was expected to,:pe soon
17FrAiie r7lt_,, he ether- ready. 'l' eking, therefore, the whole collective foie e-,:-.
- -:. _- WO. OF
4iii-d-s, heti/My so long es the Netherlands should attr.,:,
. . se i 0.4'
belong 011ie House of Orange. The price for thet
Prussia - • - - 230.1:4$
colonies could not be considered excessive ; and it ! Collective States of Germany . M., ,s)e.
would not only go to create a system of fortification i iirelt Britain - - . . &ludo
on that barrier, but it would make it the interest of.; 11ollaud - - LO Al.l
the Emperor of Russia, as well as his duty, to pre- i 4,11,n0 '-
vent the Low Countries from fallinfT into the hands It formed a total of one million and eleven thousand
of France, at least for a number of years. Tiiere Men, exclusive of the army of the Emperor of Rus-
wns, therefore, this security for thit country, in ad- sin assembled on the frontiers of his don si ;; ions, and
dition to the advance of Prussia to the Rhine, by ready to act in case of exigency. lie had been asked
which she became also interested in the safety of across the table (i)y M t.. Blokes, we believe),. what
Holland.. He had thought proper to apprise the additional subsidy waste) bepaid to the other States?
fllii.An serlhkete eircumesnees, though but a small l'ho floose were aware that we were 6,0in4 tofur-
..-...—•
portion of the charge would coma into operation in pith 15C -
the present year. Th.' !louse would feel that they .-0777. r
had not made greater sacrifices then the value of the rent. if we tirniThed only 50,000 Lel, we had
colonies. to pay or 100,000 men, according to the rate in the

owed for the numbers in whorl' we mi,

Mr. VERNEY. wished to ask the Noble Lord, Schedule of the Treaty of Clisomolit. This nevount-
what possessions Russia had in the Low Countries to ed to 2,500.0001, We should apply that sum in aid
shelter such an interest in their safety ? of the Confederacy, in such a m ras %stink! be
• Lord CA!sTLEREAGH said, Russia had indeed calculated to produce the most satisfaction among
no possessions in the Low Countries; but the part them. By distributing this sum among them, we'
of ber debt in Holland, which was borne by Britain shoold give for the 150,000 meo of the smaller Stases
and the King•of the Netherlands, was contingent on nearly the same as was paid to the great Powers,
the preservation of the• Low Countries to the House which waLlll4taimet... 'I his, although an incon.
of °mop, as he had already stated. He would sideeable portion of the expellee of bringing their
now proceed to the other points, namely, the ope- troops i.ito the field, would serve as a considerelde
ration of the arrangements entered into with the Al- encouragement. and would remove auv feeling that
lies. By•tresty, the armies of the Allied Sovereigns some were preferred and others oe,lected. it might
were to amount .to 150,000. But the efforts of the be ..‘ished, perhaps, by some, that our own genuine('
principal Allied Powers were not to he confined to anti national effort,: citonld be peak,• in this contests
this; and he should best consult the interests of but from the mantmr whicb (*tor force was at pre-
Great Britain and the Confederacy, by stating :that sent distributed, we could not expect to bring mar
was the nature and de.ctiption of the efforts which into the field. •The country, however, was greatly
the Powers of Eurve were making under the re 7• a gainer, in a pecultiry poiot of view, by this coin-
sent circumstances. ft would he taking a very utile- mutation tif the service lie %ell knew that the
tisfactory view indeed of the state of affairs, if we glory Which the cout•tev derived from tile creation
were to suppose the Allied Powers only' bringing • and exertions of g •gal!s n t army was incalculable ;
into the held the number of 150,000 each, settled by but our army, with.alf its merits, .was not the cheap..
the Treaty of Vienna. As far as he was enabled re i est in Europe. •It required in this country fro•n tiol.
give the ifouse information nn this subject, he could to 701. to bring each men into rate lie:tl —so 6at on
state that all the three great Powers were likely to a.principle of producing tht .amount of toter-
bring into the field a very large number beyond what lion's for the'striallll4 sun; of money, this commute-
they were bound to by the stipulations of that Treaty. tioti was very advantageous..fer us. The House
He did not mean to include those which might be would he wwire that 117:2i. a mart, which was the
cottoned in their own dominions, but strch as.would rate paid to the..gre7t ,Powers, was exceedingly mo.
be in the field, and employed in the active exertions derate;' compaied. taillilormer subsidiary allowances.
of the canipaign. Taking, however, even the nom- • The subsidy to iweileti was calculated at 401. a man.
bars in the -Treaty, the assistance of this country Even the subsidy of 1,800,0001. to Prussia. in 1754,
could be no rational ground for the. Powers to'bring for 60,000 men,. was 301. ix mass..
.In no other ca.-le
such a force 'into the field, and the subsidy could were it peer sa leer as..on the present occasion ; it
only be a secondary motive with them. But this formedlot.a small proportionsof the •whele charge of
view would be still strengthened, when the House rendering those armies moveable. Formerly we had
should be informed how much their efforts went he- given sums in addition' to the subairly; to put the
yond the stipulated numbers. At far as Austria was armies kit movement. •It was customary to give a
concerned, there were in full operation ready to act friendly mire en campnigne .for Rinequipment and
and to be patio motion an army of 150,000 in Italy, artillery of the armies, and sfterwards to continue
soilicient of ittelf to satisfy the stipulations in the the subsidy: Bet se far from the armies being at
Treaty. But this Power would have an army present as it were, abetract
.ideas of armies; they
of went in another quarter towards the Rhine, were fully equipped and in a situation-6v tesiive--
so that instead of 150;000, we might consider the Tie Right Hon. Gent. (Mr. Tierney) had the 40 jt
operating nod effective army to amcrunt to 300,000 improvident to make the provisions cocionencb 'olds
men. Vilth respect to the Russian force, he had the -the Ist of April. Hot thearmies wevieio mo.tirin oa
satisfaction to state that the Emperor had engaged in the Ist of April. Orders were given for tTlei.e 'prod
the present contest with that decision which marked as 'early as the Declaration was issued, whichthe whole of his conduct throughout the late eventful whenever the advance of Bonaparte wasiArown ; at*
war, and had resolved to call out a.itreat pat (Of the they were now near the seat .of war. With respetit
forces of his mighty empire. General Barclay de to the length of time these subsidies might crinti me,
Telly was at the head of as fine an army as ever was the Allies had a greater interestlisim we had in not
called oat on service, having such ample means of idling or wasting their time: and therefore there was
selection in their power, Thai foie& in the ratit:s not likely to •bit liny abase from that sonrce.--e-416
under him, which would arriveat •the Rhine, mot, tit- hoped the HtlistitiNt the arrangement *de es fair and
ed to 225,060, and as this army was acciveipanied by rea;oinable as coald be made. He trustrid,tbe House
a number of. volunteers, it ...nroukt arrive at the felt 'how', ettedietely encouraging it was to see. each a
Rhine as complete in .numbers as•when It left the force' ambits arnisiged against the enemy with
Rollin EIMPITC.' There 'wait •isielottlod'igiidat of .. 4soat. 46-44.4.111.14041' And *PO- Ff.i.uscp-4:46.—.

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