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an opinion), bat he brought argument against opinion
--argentra, the exercise of which was the etwarnoe pos-
session of them all. He was fearful be should tire them
met— (no, so, and applause.) as well as himself, he
hoped he made them bear at the lower mid of the room.
7-(Yes, go on. go on.)—He came to the remedy for these
grievances. Taking MI five millions, reducing dee foxes
from 53 to 48 minks; wield be no remedr.m44tspt
relieve the farmer. If 53 millions incepacitaaplAn far-
mer from paying rest at all, if that emeent le taxes swal-
lowed up all his root, was it possible be esuW exist by
poring 48 millions. No, tb• only real mothrof edifies'
Ils brief down die tars' to tisane amount as they were
is the yews the oobie Hari bad referred to. He begged
Sem to remember hisamertione, that the landlord could
lost pay hie rent het by the debt being reused, by the
taxes net exceeding Ifi.ter IS millikerammelly. Telc
lie( redactions went amine. Ho swan prawn g'
'relief till the Haus of COMMON was reformed.
He had no inclinations t• draw epos bhuself a
visit from that assembly for contempt, or they might
send him across the sew—,having Ives to then selves
that power. Hot wield an isseedhly. of Redlamites
have passed such Acts as they had ? Would they, at
the time the people were in a state of revolution al-
most from want of food, have passed en Act to rake
nee darer? Would they have passed ae Act to ply
In spook, without previously making general 'Weir-
does sod arraegements for no imponsat a ehaege
Did he not petition that house to pay in specie? Yes;
but he did not say, Do it, and rob the fanners, the
laud and estate owners, the usongsper Ste. No, he
'mid. first reduce the debt, the pensions, end the army;
lie away with all sinecures ; bring there sod other es-
ablisbreets Bows to the state they were in the year
1793, and then pay in specie as soon as you like.
That brought Mtn to the period when he left England,
about which time he attended a Meeting ea Ports-
down Hill. They tbes petitioned for cash payment.,
but not till after redactions had taken place In the
State, Army, &c. and they prayed that the Pend-
ho'der should have only his share.—(Applan.e.) He
Ipetitioned himself singly, and gave his petition to
Lord Polkstome ; bat although he petitioned for cash
payments. he prayed that the reductions be had *treed),
referred to as necessary, should take place lest.
Lard John Russell was completely mistakes. His
preposition could only tend to delude.—(tlear, hear.)
Na wished to speak of the Noble Lord with tbe great-
est respect ; but he bad a right to combat hie errors.
His Lordship's propositions fur relief timid at meet
ashy do good as 46 to 53. What beset► wield five
millions of redeetion be, if they paid the some rent
on in 1793, when he bed mule it appear se them, that
gt 1823, priers would he ow moth tome than in 1793,
and that instead of payleg shams millions of taxes
they would have to pay Arty-eight millions? Bach a
reduction would do no pod ; the fact was, the tines
most come down, it was the only remedy, and by hook
or by crook, as they said in woody countries, they
resid came down—they would be obliged to come
dews, unless the wiseacres were to ire* then their
reams of Hank paper again, and repeal Peel's Bill.—
(Applause.)—lf there was a redaction of taus, the
Army must be reduced, and what need was theif for
the Army lie should like to know—what use was it
of? In !ferry the Eighth's time there was two
standing army, and in Queen Anne's time the only
soldiers were the red or yellow (lie forgot which)
stocking gentlemen, called beef-eaters.—(llear, and
Laughing.)—There was no need of soldiers in the
time of their forefathers. After the war was over, in Mir
the reign of Anne, she had no further service fur the
soldiers; they were dismissed to their houses to enjoy
the peace they had obtained. But they must have sot.
tiers to keep the radicals in order—(Laughing)—and,
radicals must be kept in awe—the saucy radicals.—
(Loud laughter.)—They must be dragooned into sub-
missiveness. There was an old saying—" Kill a fly at d
a hundred will go to his burial ;"—(Laughter.)—so It
was with the radicals—the more they were oppressed.
persecuted, and dungconed, the more they increased.
lie wished to Jo away with the radicals himself, but he
should do it in a very different manner, and by very dif-
ferent means, to those recoustnended by certain philoso-
phers of the present day. He would do it by a Reform
in the Commons House of Parliament : by reducing the
debt, discharging the army, abolishing the sinecures,
and pensions (excepting those granted fur real services),
doing away with useless places, and reducing the taxes:
' then the country would soon he in as flourishing a con-
dition as it ever was in the time of their forefathers ;
and there would be ao end to the Radicals.—(Cheering.)
—When Mr. Dickinson (at the. Sussex meeting) was
told publicly of the effects of passing a certain Act of
Parliament, he replied, " be was sorry ; he now saw the
effects, and they were very lamentable." Bat "you did
it.," was the reply. Ignorance was the excuse. tiood
Rod! that this lovely country should be ruined—that
ignorance should have been the cause of breaking op a
whole kingdom of husbandmen, and such vitro, as the
like were not to he found in the world—and the sole de.
fence was ignorance! If that was the 1•118 e, what dan-
ger, be wont.' ask, could possibly he prodaceil, and what
more i ujorbous could he done, by a reformed Parliament ?
If time permitted, he could show what good would be
done, and he was sure that it was impossible that a re-
formed Parliament could do worse than ruin the coon-
try.—He (Mr. Cohben) then entered into a detail of the
effects of Peel's Bill. Ile said that it operated on fans. ,
and other property that was mortgaged, a complete cos,
liseation. What was Parliament, he asked, doing Al
this time of unparalleled distress, when the whole culls-
try was looking up to the Hon. House for relief? it
were oar wise Legislators doing? he asked. Would
they believe it ? lint it was a fact kno., n to all the
world, that instead of devising some plan of relief
" they were contriving the means of checking the cin U.
lation of his two-penny trash."—(laughter.)—Such o
the employment of a British House of Commons at such
an important epoch. In a work which they had al: read,