The Statesman.
London, England, 1814-05-17 00:00:00

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la material alteration ii?, (he law of Eleetiott, should
! not be made at a mere Amendment in a Committee.
ROUSE OF LORDS, Maw 16. ! Sir EDWARD KNATCHBULL "said a few
Connie! Were heard hi the Appeal " Manama= v. Gore."—
Judgment was manned. ' - `'words.
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la the Appeal" Cane r.. Lord Allen," Sir S. S. %wally and Mr. GORDON supported the measure in toto,
Mr, Mart were heard for the Appellants, and Mr. Leach for whether it applied to counties or boroughs.
the Restrandents.--Parther proceedings to take place on Wed- Mr. A•Ks 1, FAIN approved of the
proposed re-
nerday, _
0; two several applications for delay from the parties to car- jection of this Bill, since it was necessary to proceed
WA Irish Appeals, the 1.0 ItO CHANCELLOR took occasiva to reform Parliament in a more general and sub+
to express his indignation at the neglect of the Orders of the • ~
Home which was so frequently manifested by parties to Ap- alaafial way. -I:
peals from Ireland ; and at the insbusee of the' Noble, and ; Mr. MARRYATT disapprovett of the Bill," bee'
1 Learned Lord it was ordered, that the cases in qamition should -,cause it was unjust, outrageous;
come on in their proper order. and uncOustita-
-1 Mr. Brogdess brought up from the Commons the Sugar Wow-. thine. •
back .Bill.—Read taint time. -• : • ' Mr. C. W. WYNNE rentarked on the Collital‘
• On the motion of the Archbishop of CANTERBURY, the
Clygy Penalties Suspension Bill was read a third time and ty of the seasons adduced ley the opponents of the
pameC—Adjourned. Bill,' some allegiag that it was an innovation; ands
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be'eete as an ; 4
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HOUSE OF COMM NS. - • was merely's reenactment of the existing statute V,
The pee*? thesauri' BM sial-rembAllbi
_. : . Iblag WilliaeOltd, therefore, to be rejected as taa.:.i
Mr. KENRICK diovetthe farther evesideratioa orthatdett..kossesaary. me -epprowd of the Diu as rapossnalo
part oi the Poor Laws Bill.
, Mr. HARVEY said that on the third reeding •he would-ob.' with the Writ which* peeseided the whole Grille'
ject to the clause relative to the rates: - I
grow. I .
wcohnicsthit:taisonto ofezeoludiur . reFiresentuse
whioaltiofrno,inthe. object of .: " • cams ititini-r--"""Tilvrrr"7:7lr'.7
The Bill was ordered to be read a third time ' their poverty:, The • CHANCELLOR of -the VIICIRIIIWit
ERITiI CANAL BIL '
The Erich Canal Bill was moved to be mil a se- were open to temptation.. or reason but that banight up the Corn Exportation 'Bill, 'esidillititti
Fond time. . lon which this Bill .Wei en, were those ex, that -r a first time.
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Mr. R. WARD opposed the second readingr I eluded in County meilionpfrom,vpwwwho.had,not. . it. S ERN asked, whether this matey* *all
Mr. PETER. bIOORE,in favour of the '
spoke.
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forty shilling freeholds, and Vin se who received pa-, merely founded • on a division of the Report of the
Bill. . I roam' assistance in all eaves ? . F.er that reeson, Cometfttee into rate measures ?
Sir JOSEPH YORK, in aniewer to an obserra. ' but this, were persons excluiest, from , that 'Hoyle , NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.
1- lion that this Canal was approved of by the Admi- who had not freeholds to a certain mneutit?
..4c- said it was a Bill framed in pursuance of the ,first
Entity, said, that the approbation consisted merely'
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cording to the Noble Lord (Lord.Milteo) who had Resolution, the further consideration of the other
in this, that they would pay toll on their vessels
opposed this Bill, it was proper that Electors should Resolutions aving been postponed.
going through the Canal, in the Barrie manner as 1
receive a compensation for their loss of time.ae well r. o posed the Bill. ---
other ships would do. The reach which it was pro- 'as for their pecuniary expence. This he (Mr. W.), r. saitlf that he had seen a report of a
I posed to cat off was extremely bad. In a paper ' thought a manifest violation of the statute of W
-: 11-. , %mach published by • a Right Hon. Gent. opposite
I which had been circulated, it was said that 200,0001. liens, and he hoped that Committees would not al-,' (Mr, Rose), which .was rather mischievous, and even
was subscribed to this undertaking but on enquiry at , ways continue to sanction such practices. The pre- a little seditious.--LA laugh:l—That Right lion.
I the Bill Office, he found that the subscriptions only; sent Bill was a measure which might be Of conside- Gent. had, in-that speech, said that. Mr. Pitt had
amounted to 10,0001. in this case the work could'nes ! table benefit, especially if coupled with one which been reluctantly induced to egrets to the measures
Igo on. -7- I might enact, that when a poll should be demanded,i which were taken in 1804. The Right
i Hon. Gent.
Mr. CALCRAFT said a number of beneficial et. n the case of a county election, there might be seve- i must have known that this was not the fact-40;y of
fects were held out as likely to result from this un- rat places for voting, so disposed as to be sufficiently ; Order! Order!]—for Mr. Pitt cheerfully co... Permed
dertaking. it hid been said that 400,0001. would' near to the habitations of the freeholders of every'; in carrying.that measure, the only one in which he
be laid out on labour, and this would be of the at- 7part in the county. Such ismeasure would do away I (Mr. Coke) ever agreed with him. He thought that
most consequence at a time when so many disbanded with the increasing expence of Elections which i a fair protection should-be afforded to the farmer, in
soldiers and sailors would be unemployed. But the threatened the purity and indepeodeuce of that ; producing which:, however, it was necessary that the
si hole ex.pence was held out to subscribers as only : House. The reason why he had not proposed such ; landlords should cooperite, for without leases of
310,00ti1. in all.—How then could 400,0001. be laid a measure was, that he had not found a sufficient sufficient duration, and a rent which might not bt
. out in labour alone? • But he apprehended that the disposition in the House to adopt any such Amend. i exorbitant, no improvement could be expected.
making the Canal would be attended with consider- • ment on the existing law, some opposing reform al- I With due encouragement and improved agriculture,
.able danger to the river navigation_,• 'for it was likely together, and others thinking this not the right end , however, the wheat land of this kingdom, he was
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i to lower the depth of water in the 'trivet. It was:to begin at. of opinion, would produce as much again as.lt pro-
, impossible to dispense altogether with the river taut}'-' Mr. ROSE thought that the candidates should be duced at.present. Things would be then kept In the
o'noel. 'allowed to the voters with furnishith the means of ca a- ; gation, for in frost the Canal would not ;be state in which they were during the present year,
---faisle, mod in •that case the supplies of this &met veyrnce, bat not with money to defray their ex- when, from the plentiful harvest the farmer *as as
• , metropolis might be endangered. lie should move, peaces, for when money was once allowed to be,l well paid by thirty shillings, w* titer were Issieriner
iby way of Amendment, that the Bill be read a se- Paid, who should determine the exact sum ? I years by forty shillings. The lion, Gent. asked,
' cond time this day six months. ' 1 Mr. LASCELLES objected to the introduction of 1 whether any condid.man could believe it possible that
Sir JOHN COXE HIPPISLEV read a letter Ithe word " County" into the Bill, ,but confessed, 1 the agriealtarists could sell corn as cheap now as for-
signed " Melsille," and dated from the Adiniialty ! that even without that word he should, have voted I merly, after being so heavily borne upon by those
in April, 1812.• The letter bore, that the Board of ' againstit. He deprecated the adoption of the system I taxes which the Right Hon. Author of the 'pamphlet
Admiralty were satisfied that the Canal watt of the '.which an Hon. Member (Mr.' Wynne) had talked of, in his hand had so materially contributed to impose ?
proper depth, and would be of considerable benefit '
of itinerant Sheriff:. From that Right Hon. Gent. how ever,he required SOM.
Sir J. NEWPORT said he should proposea clause I explanation, as to the nature of the animadversions
to the naval service. With respect to subscriptions, !
lie had to state that 240,0001. was already subscribed. to be added to theßill 'on the third reading, to enact ; which he had thought proper to make upon the land-
He was no wise connected, in point of interest, with ; that the elected should take an oath at the table, dis- owners. What could be the Right Hon. Gent.'s
the Canal ; but as a Member of Parliament, lie , avowing the having gisen any sums of money, or i motives for reflecting upon the views of the land.
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meat and drink, to their electors
was convinced of its utility. • owners, he could not really divine; but, however
sir EDWA RD KNATCHBULL thought the Ca- The House then • dirided, and Mr. Lockhart's ' the Right Hon, Gent. might wish to curry favour
nal on the present plan ought not to be proceeded in.
Amendment, that the Report he taken into consi- ' with the manufacturers or mechanics, by the .profes-
lie asserted that 10,0001. subscriptions only appeared
deration this day six booths, was carried. `due num- i 'lion of an extraordinary solicitude for their interest,
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in the Bill Office. . . ' hers were— . • • iiiicontradiction with that of the land-owners, he, at
Sir J. C. 111 PPISLEY explained. For Mr. Lockhat I's modes - St one, denied the justice of the Right lion. Gentle-
Mr.
it - ' ZS , man's censure ; and hoped he should have credit
Mr. P. MOORE answered some of the objections Majority - - —24
I with the People of Hoglund" for as Much feeling itt
on the other side. ORI)F,Pt: OF Tin,. nousr, ;their favour as the Right Hon. Gent. might chuse to
Mr. itosE and Mr. CROK ER both opposed the I ..
1 Sir J. NEWPORT moved that the Order of. the profs*. lie trusted, indeed that notwithstanding
Bill. /
House, foe the retutti of the Fees .in the Courts 1 what he /ono again esti the mischievous 'and sedi-
Tho House then divided— •
of Justice in Ireland be transmitted to..tbdp, Lord i
—tious pamphlet of the Right Hen. Gent., neither he,
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ki.r the Amendmput, shag the Bill be read n second Chancellor and the several Judges in this mmetry. 1 norany one of those with whom he was connected,
time thia day six mootla - - 56 Mr. C. W. WYNNE thought it was correct to could entertain the wish imputed to them, of desk-
transmit the Orders of the House to the Secretary of ' ing, for the sake of their own interest, to starve or
State„littthose cases where they were addressed to
.1 !di„reas the et_
!persons-Ili:any department of the police.
I Mr. 11. ADDINGTON said, lie had admitted as
t much on a former night.
The SPEAKER suggested, that, if any difficulty
I occurred in communicating the Orders of the House,
that the House should uddress the Crown to facilitate
their transmission to the persons on whom they were
!intended to take effect.
I The motion was carried.
The Highway Bill was committed. The Report
I was ordered toile taken into further consideration on
Friday. .
I Mr. .PEELE presented, the Report of the Aca-
demical Institution of Belfast, which, with other
papers, was referred to the Committee of Supply..
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. ,
I In a Committee of Supply, the following sums
were voted for the service, ef Ireland:—
. 311.9311. for the Board of Works.
24,503 . for the Priming gad Stationary of the Secretary of
State, for theexpence of Extra Messengers, and
tier the Superannsalien Allowance of persons in
- die aline Der lates*.
%1110.0116.' • fee the expellee at Criminal Prosecutions.
. . MOM for the A prubseskis of: Public 011swiers.
1,0171. for the Pratiane al the Port of Dublin.
7401 for Clothing the Battle-axe Ginn ds.
9,41111. for the Noreoefonning Ministers of Ireland.
3,9511. far the Seceding Ministers of the Synod of Ulster.
• ~. 2,1421. for the Lo tery Officers.
41,0001. for Hisvith Harbour.
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In proposing this Grant, Mr. PEELF stated,'
that considerable progress had been wide. in the
Works of govith Ilarhoor, ono pier being, finished,
and considerable progress made in the other.
4,5001. for Treasury Incidents.
2,7961. fiw Printing 1290 copies of the Statutes in quarto,
for the Magistrates of Ireland, and 250 in folio,
for the Lords Bishops.
4521. for the Commissioners for Draining Bogs. ,
Wen. -far Encouraging ManefactirreF.
10,0001. and 50.01101. for the Building of Churches and
Glebe Houses.

20,2941. MAW OmniHMol4l4o Wide Stiteti.
1,9501. tb remunerate Public 06ects fot tbeir
nary trouble dating_thepiesent year.
90,0001. for a New Squire at Trinity College.
18,2441. for the Establishment of a Ne* Packet Station at
Dunmore In the Harbour of Wesford.
16,3641. for lintshinia Building intended for a Libiary for
Public 'Records.
2.5001. for the Cork lostittition.
42,5391. fur the Charter Schdol.
6001. to the Commissioners of Charitable -Betpteds and
Donations.
9,6921. to btaynooth College.
The House resumed, and the ROpott wet; dratted
to he received to-morrow.
Lord A. HAMILTON remarked on what he con..
ceived to best disordeirly proceeding on the part of
the Hon. gentleman (Mr. Peele), who htid pro-
! ceeded to the grants in Supply, to which be had
• given notice, before the Orders of the Day were
• uoposed of.

Mr.PEELE conceivod Ibigsit to have been per-
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111-thority against the Bill

,-Messenger from the Lnrds brought up the Cler-
gy Penalties Bill, which received the assent of the
Peers. .

eittgrsaid, that he was quite as incapable
as the Hon. Member, with all hid boasted property,
of tinting any this% which lie did not believe to be
tree, and therefore he would fling back in his teeth
the assertion which he had before made with respect
to.the conductor Mr. Pitt..' Hit' repeated, ,that al-
though Mr., Pitt: oheerfully assented to the treasure
adopted' with respect to corn in 1791, he reluctantly
assented to those taken in 1804. With regard to the
imputation of my factious motive, he would confi-
dently 'put-his life in contrast with that of the Hon.
Gentleman as the best answer to the charge. He
denied.that he had ever endeavoured to deptive the
corn grower of any doe protection, onto draw any
invidious distinction between the grower and the
consumer. Those, indeed, who pushed such a dis;.
tinction, were, in his opinion, the werst'enemies of
the farmer • and that Astinction appeared ill the ite.
port of thkoinnitttee, against whose resolutions his
main objection was, that they were come to without
any competent enquiry. th.facti the only witnesses
examined by that Committee were three Irish Gen-
tlemen; two 'of :whom gave Contradictory deposi-
tions, but the *hale three were unacquainted with
the agriculture of Great Britain, and yet it was now
proposed that the. prise at which the import of corn
should be allowed, should exceed even, that which

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Mr.BßOGDEN.brought op the Report of the
Election Expellee Bitl.--On the question that it be
reed, _ _

Mr. LOCKHART opposed the rending of the
Report, as lie thought the only operation of the
Bill would he to disfranchise Electors and to procure
the return of. improper Candidates. Ile moved that
it be read on this day six months.
Mr. Alderman SMITH opposed the Bill, and sup-
ported the Amendment.
Mr. DOUGLAS, in a (ow tone of voice, replied
to some of the arguments employed against the Bill,
particularly to those of destroying the influence of
the aristocratic body, and that it would injure a
large chiss of the community by depriving them of
their rights. Ile was the last person who would pro-
pose any measure that would be generally inju-
rious.

Lord MILTON contended that • the Bill, as no*
amended by the introduction of the word "county,"
disfranchised nine-tenths of the Electors of the
kingdom. Ile thought that the lion. Gent. (Mr.
Lushington) on a former night, had introduced this
word in an insinuating manner, with a sly, under-
hand, secret design of thereby procuring the rejec-
tion of the measure. lie moved that the word
" County" should be expunged.
The SPEAKER decided that such a Motion could
not in this way be segulorly made, since the !loose
had already adopted it.
Mr. LUSHINGTON. denied that- he wit sly or
insinuating, and repelled the charge of having intro:
duced the word County, with a view to defeat the
Bill. lie, however, shooid vote ;for 'the rejection
of it altogether, even *lib his Ansetidnient, because,
upon reconsideration, he thought it better that. suck

CeirriterVlßN commented upon the pamPhtbt
alladed to by hie Ron. Friend; which pamphlet pur-
ported to be the Report of !speech delivered by this
Right= Ron. Gentleman (Mr. Rote): Ile Weald Stott.
however, 'charge that pamphlet with Sedition, Foe
if it were Vain,, open, holiest 'sedition to laugh] Ma
should not: so much complain oft. •-itts objection to
it was, that it-centained the.mofh unfaiimistitiveeen-
tation of the motives and conduct of those by *hod
the measure under iousiderailou *as gus,„catetl.•-•