The Statesman.
London, England, 1823-03-05 00:00:00

Mr. MOCK shortly supported the resolutions. •
Mr. GRATPAN said, that be ihonld also vote for
them, and thanked the hon. gentleman for brineing for-
ward the momentous question. He disclaimer' this prin.
ciple of spoliation, but wished the house to inquire into-
the duties end salaries of the clergy. • .
Mr. HUME replied. He put it to the house whether
any thing that lie had said warranted the warmth of hte
personal attack simile upon him. (Hear, beer).. The
Honourable Gentleman ass proreinling when the Speak-
er interfered, and Mr. Peel and Mr. Plunkett explained.
Mr. Ilutoe then supported his motion, by quoting .the
language of Dr. Watson, in his letter to the Duke of
Richmord, and said, that although he was accused of
" desperation and folly," honourable gentlemen would
see that he spoke with a bishop on his side. Let.Ati•
Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett).silo
talked of spoliation, let him answer how it hapkened
that he had himself been a party to that great spoliation
of the Irish clergy, the tithe o agistment? When a so-
lemn ilei isioo in the year 1720 had declared the right. of
the clef,. y to take ti•lie of agistment, how. was it
that the Right lionoorabie and Learned Gentleman had
put his hand and seal to the deed which, despoiling the
clergy of that tithe, robbed some of them of thirty-
nine fortieths of :heir tithe revenue? How was it that
the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman had done pais
—the Right lion. and Learned Gentleman who charged
him (Mr. H.) with spoliation "in the strongest language
which the House of Commons would allow?" (clieerine..)
In concluding, the honourable member said it was impos-
sible the Church of Ireland could continue in its present
state, and therefore he called upon the house to aid Mai
in the inquiries he proposed. It was useless to talk of
leaving the thing to ministers : ministers would do in it,
wit it they had been doing for the last 50 years—nothing.
lie believed that there were honourable members who
felt differently upon the subject from himself ; but he
would, num it!' oar] in e, take the sews of the house upon
his s. •on,l re.itlot ion. (Considerable cheering as the how
hie ober sat down.)
Mr. GOULBURN exylaine I. His objection to the
measure was, and with him it was a derided one, that the
spoliation of the church must inevitably lead to the
spoliation of private property.
The lionae then divided upon the second resolution .
For the resolution, 62—Against it, 167-31ajoirity,
WEST INDIA PIRACIES.

Mr. MARRYATT rose to call the attention of the
house to e.'rtain circumstances whicii hail some time.agq
taken place between the Admiralty Board and the Coin-
inittee at Lloyirss After expatiating upon the utility
awl importance of that body, the lion. Member proceeded
to irate tile facts, which have been already before the
public, with regard to toe capture and attack of several
merchant ships off Cuba; and after a speech of some
length,. which want of roan prevents us from detailing,
moved, that there be laid before •the hoose copies pt
letters from J. W. Croker, Esq. Secretary of the Admi-
ralty. to Mr. John Bennett, at Lloyd's, together with co-
pies of !titers from the Commanders of the Carnation and
Outeral to the Admiralty, on the subject of the West In-
dia trade.
GEORGE COCKBURN. in reply, defended the
Admieally, sutosssertel that the charges against the
Board were foanifed in error:.
Mr. T. WILSON regretted that tiny misunderstanding
should have arisen between'the Admiralty and the Com.
nittee at Lloyd's ;' but hoped that good would arise
from the discussion.
Sir L COPYIN inatle some remarks, condemning the
conduct of the Cemmit;eit at Lloyd's. • .
M. BRIGHT was much gratified that the statement
of the noble Lard of the Admiralty di.id vindicated Oat
Board. lu
Sir U. COCK BURN explained.
Alderman TBOMPSON suggested, that as it was•up
parent to the-hays, Ilya evert• satisfaction sougot by
the gentlemen of Lloyd's might hate been obtain( d