The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-12-21 00:00:00

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bat betause soca-tune ofeetivreiOn ;owing acted*, wile a pans • the fruits of whiels,..llololl.lllll' Lied, we hat,
and one so tontrary to the be was bound
Cuustitutioa, to fel-
low it, he MUSS watifest that the present was wire occasion,?Leer bad occasion to . . ..,.
_Leareeen Gee-,
ns which be rixollested .16.1sava 'been told, that because* James') bad enumerated the sit*. flvantsies. which
• that it afford-
seusibte• man, 20 years age, did a wreqg act, therefore that a Bill pant:Ascii over an A Or ef .1 - .
wroug act should now lie billowed by smother of the same
kiwi. wan; she Right Roc Gemini= propmed, amounted ed a member of different . stages :oe discussos •s;---agea
exactly to this. He did out deiced the mew,. He easdilie That Learned Gentleman *halal! have said . 1
'would not argue it. He himself regarded it as* perfect mea-
sure, and asked of the House date nee on its merits, with- a delay, wilichTmbeighptoa'lliibtiirriatylejYufflmisidaledr the
ee
iiigel. , _rialia,
out telling them in what those merits amassed. He has appealed euneeessary.
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to it as an authorition which be now called on the House. to *endow, is with the Addreu. Of the IP _
act; but be (Mr. PrrusuubY) bads found that l'lthaillY munst Right llonourahle Friend (Mr. Poresoebrb which
reason was always an abserdity, and was eerie/rally amts- -
' chief. The planpropesed by the Right Honourable Gentletimn was so well characterised by soother
_Right liniment..
was a fictiou, if not a fraud; instead of partaking of the sue- d Meryl r
plieity of the measure recommended by him (Mr. Yeasonby able Gentleman,. the arguments hat, AO. been at-
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whice•hae heeeformerlyeeted on lathe heattima of theGoentry,
and perfect. We,
and was at taut preferable in one respect to the measure of the by Address, is the most complete
tempted to be answered. The mode of proceeding
kid a Ter
Right Hon. Gentleman, that there was se &Who'd in it. He the Lords Spiritual and Temporal...We, the Com-
begged of the Rouse to reflect what ***the rnire they were •
.called on by the Right Beeper:4k Gewskasaa to adopt. Geoid nuns of this Realm, offer to your Royal 11.1g.h.s.est!
any man assert-.-wound any man velum to. iwimiate, host the the Executive Power. Is there tiny tribunal high r
King was et this moment Ma situatiou to assent to any Legit- than this? No, there is none. If you adiTrett
Wive Act? No, t wesidnot. Then what was this very
measure, r . ..
by tbe Bight Honourable Gentleman, then the Prince, your proceedings will hal the.
but a proceeding which went to assert that his Majesty
was able to do what the Right Hoeourable Gestlenum highest authority; .but if you want to make, an
who p its adnined be was am able to de b.—To
lAineintenotft Ptah:elk:mac:tea,
,wttiechEzis.cnssottiv:nd.Asperitveosf
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of
4....ite Debate
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say titan tine ought le adept such a proceeding. lieeouse
It had been acted on 20 years ago, was utterly unworthy of efficiency. When theßight HOhatt
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' attention. Toe Right Honourable Gentleman had said, that .. .
what sboold be the limitation was not here the question, as be could not be. length . ..,
refers to the precedent of 1788,ft
,erp
rabic Gentleman
.be felt to ho
they would come to be discussed in the Bill. For his Own
part, to any restrictions en hi) RisOl Highness at' thls Oise
eulogises as a e -pi
4if day, he should ffigMy objeti. He was come so that Helm. that .he has looked into this Bin, which he
erne or lifeseldom attained by King; when they wanted does more than King, Lords, ante Commons united , metre,
their Thrones. If, at the age 48 years, he was not lit to he can 1102, for. it 1181 d
trusted with power, he should be afraid be never *mild hall not do.; "'''
be lit v lied if a was aterasary fur the House to look to every , 3,4314- 411841 sloe ' !jot s again you s , _
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part of Ids eandect with es suspicious tut ,eye, be should doubt fOielt high to. the Kingly A nthority, this
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LOrds and Common! in fetters, end- lte"
much how far It would mii be an actor prudence to make Web* ,;.„. u
e their hands which is. more than tiny Aet
inquiries as should enable them to take measures far entirely. n`", •- • . '
excluding a pease so unworthy of trust fromthe Throne. At iof Perltament can ' do. '' After the deliberate'
what time Mu, wao it proposed that these restrictions asd limi-
tations should be imposed, Mash during a time of 'petite ? Was . , framing
of
wisdom of the House had hewn so long employed
it during a peeled of management, of public affairs ? In, the
Did we •not iive wader a week Aenomstretton? And did Prince is prevented from making any use of the
ant weakness in man" lastesses lead un to destruction ? Privy issurou.;... that he is prohibited limn bribing
The Right Honoembse Gendesnan talked of the haw and
happy reign of his Midesty, ..
who had Icesistantly !proved, the Members of Parliinent, -a thing which is supposed
father and protector of his people, so far as his Majesty was can neftl, as it
ought never, to be done. The Ire-
personally concerned. But were we now in that state.of se-
curity itukeven ut greabite and grandeur which we fortunately ors of this Bill must have been guided by the pas.
. enjoyed at the time his Majesty came to the thrum 1 And did sions to which human nature is unfortunately toe
.we codtemplate in those 'entleinen on the opposite benches
persons capable of extricating os oat of' our difficulties ?- much subject. Fortunately, however, for the cue...l
or had we not rather to dread from their imbecility and try, the precedent of 1788 was never acted on. Ifl
weakness that we shall he plunged still more deeply in ;cola- the Prince of Wales had been able to exercise thee
mite. He dared to say the Right lion. Gentleman constdeted • 2
himself tube one of the blessings of the'present reign, (Laugh, lunetroe.a of the Eicrutive dnring the struggle of ,
and hear, hear!] and hoped that the measure which he now
three yLars, it would, have done an irrreparable in.
recommended to the adoption ut the House. would be one of jury to it, and degraded its consequenee'in 'eh&
the means of manacle( this great blessing fur sue time longer •'.. _ ,ki,
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to the country. For his own-snort, he (blr. Fonsonhy) clluis , lea of %IS ti.oll. Ile said he would attack the
uot agree with the Right Rms. Gent. in his ideas on this subject, Crowe, when et was in full force and 'rigour, but
nor could be atall congratulate the country on any ble2singsnhich he.wp.ald.nu.t attack it when it is obscured. lie
re they had already enjoyed, or we likely to enjoy,, from the
servicesof the Right Hen. Gent. or his friends; said and vibe were be had tonight against it in the measure of
at all to express an idea on the subject, he must say, though Reversions, which was lost in the House 'of
be said so %kit all respect and veneration to his Majesty, by
whoin he had been broughtinto once, he should congratulate 2 Lords because they were odious to the people, and
the ceuritry as on one of the greatest blessings they laid ever not hem:tidal to the Crowe.. lb stated that the
enjoyed, were the Right Hon. Gentleman to concerti himself
no farther in their concerns; and should look 0.1 his depariure Right HonourableGenticmen had not been so lavish
from power MS nee of the best days fur this country. He coo- as some who had been harem him in office. This
eluded by moving, ' Might .he owing to the merit of the Right Him.
"That an humble Address he presented to his Royal High- Gentleman himself; perhaps, it was due to his Ma.
" ness the Prim:ea Wales, regrowing that his anvil Highness icor, who having been formerly so frequently as.
" will be pleased to take upon him, during the indisposilloq of
" the King, and no loam, the Government of 'this Realm; sailed, might have at last thought proper. to change
'• and iMminister the same in the name ;nil in the behalf of his' his system. He paid a tribute to the ilt.inified re- i
" Majesty, under, the style and title of ltegent of the. United
" Kingdom of Great Britain nod Ireland." serve of the Prinee'a conduct. No man could taunt
him with saying, that ho knew how he was to act me
Mr., CANNI NG supported life original motion ' • •
each or such an occasion. The Ministers were re.
but did not approve of fettering the Regent with
restrictions. . solved, however,to resider him allowst a mere pageant,
and to deprive him of the power, which was necessary
Lord Temper, Lord Joceete, the ATTORNEY.
to the discharge of his office. A certain General said,
GENERAL, the SOLICITOR-GENERAL, and Mr. ‘, Give
eie
an
army
of 40,000
men,
,tad
itl invade
CROKER, severally supported the Motion ; and this country, I shall either entirely subdue it, or
Mr. ADAM, Sir S. !tannish and Mr. Haase'',
make it not worth having.t".so in like mannerthe
opposed it. • Minister may say, ‘v GOO to 'these restrictions,
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Mr. WIIITBREAD....It was not his it:defeated and if I hive not the power, I wilt at least make
at this lite hour to trespass long upon the attention power not north the having." Why would you lie
,of thelletne• The Learned Gentleman who has: ,up the, hands of the Head of time Iczecsoffee ? Why
just sit down, has dealt with his precedents he ' would you.- attempt to shade the splendour of
Whatever way he thought proper. He has convert- 'the Throne 1 Is the. splendour of the Throne
ed Mils into Addresses and Addresses into,Bills.... calculated to make the men
_,ho fills 'that
HeAkes spoken of writings which no man ever Thromi happy ? , No, it can make no man
WECtUto and of signatures which no man ever sign- happy. •It exists for the benefit of the nation.
ed. *He (Mr. Whitbread) would not-attempt to Is nut that Regent completely under'your stibjec.
follow him through all the mazes of his
_learned tion? Can you not annihilate him when you please ?
:confusion. The subject upon which they were --You made him, With. the Great Seal—you may
cow deliberating was certainly of the most memen. annihilate him With the Great 'Seal....he has no se.
_torus importance. Lin Majesty has been labour- curity. The ParliaMent has six weeks for consi.
lug fur seven long weak, under the most afflicting deratlon after the commencement of a Session of
Insane; the exercise of thu Royal Authority has Parliament, whether he is again to be. continued
been interrupted; . and the Ministers !rave. dared with the powers with which he is to be invested.....'
(Heir! hear!) to exercise the Royal Functions Y.aa bring him "to your bar. [near! hear!] If
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:without making any communication to the Nation. year Constitution can go on in this way is a serious
the Right ilonottrable Gentleman had stated to that consideration. It may turn out well; but you are
*ease, that the symptoms of his Majesty's disorder taking a leap in the dark. If it walks this course,
were become snore favourable, and that a speedy re. it will walk for ever., The Right lion. Gentleman
:stover, was to be anticipeted. It appears, that from talks of Jacobins;
~,what Jacobins ever proposed
the Ist to the 14th of November the symptoms were more alarming measures than this ? He -would bare
'lvry violent. Could the Right Honourable Gen- us to preserve the Royal Authority, nut fur the
Boman say, upon the evidence of the Physicians people fur whom it was intended, but for.the King.
whom we have examined, .that the recovery is [Hear !] Say, then, that it ii fur the Kin. It is
Aikely to be speedy ? Ali of them say they can. out for the King alone, hut for his successors. tem.
:oat give any such iuformation. But supposing that paring the Prince with King • William, we hind cer...,
he did recover,
_supposing that he should again be , tainly edditional reason for confidence in the Prince.
restored to the•use of his reason-in the future pe. ' Was there such security (rum. King IVilliarn as a
rind of his lifer he will again, in all probability, King, as we have from George Pi ittee of Wales, t hat
be subject too frequent recurrence of the !alit Ca. he so ill execure the office ,of Regent with duly to
lama/. - Hare the liAt rlitleigenti* .whlrith hi!! !Meted the People and affection to the King? Do we
between 1788 and this vopioetilkorerlheiref, kite* A- more ielicate..itand. thus. hieineo which'
making no provisions foe this reiterrenotel • here his Royal Father should be' confida Thut he
was suck a recurrence in 1801... Of that disease wittiest ' that be should rather be under the
there was then a distinct relapse; and the Minis- gessOitiessltip of
,the calms*. In 'whose 'guardian.
ter of the dey dare [hear !) to carry on the Wei. ship hes the King been these seven weeks ? In the
ness of the Nation. In 11304, he was motels the
„hands of these usticpen. I asked in the Privy
same state. lie could tat make up. his Mind, gouucita question of the Physicians; which from my
that his Majesty was then fit to, transact., the cbeingoirerruled, received no answer. I asked who`
public business ; he could not believe that '0
moue for aeertain Physician'? I was stopped ; bat!
person who is subject to hurries, cqutd lbte.bt. :now repeatit is an important authority. Who has
to wield the Executive Power. I teeereuet (stiff exercised ail the Royal Functions these seven weeks ?
Mr. Whitbread) the King; but 'I cannot forget 'llo.,the Crown no Regal rower to hold a Court
that ho is the Sovereign of whom I am one of the re.' Martial...no power to send a regiment out of the'
presentativei. 'When the approach to him eveo in country ? Let them give.us an account oltheenselves.
perfect sanity is cut off; when we know Mit in Is this a state in which things like these Ought.to,
1801 and 1804, the public business was carried go on? ' We know that he is Only accessible by one,
on without his, participation, should we not then sense. Let us reflect, that even when the' King Is
provide for the proper discharge of -the Kingly Of. perfectly well, it it impossible fur any information'
ices If the throne be vacant, if the Royal who- to be conveyed to him, but through the medium or
iiity.be extinct, happily there exists one to whom his Ministers, and sometimes, perhaps, of his mi.
Neill eyes am turned for supplying the deficiency. nions. Let us reflect on, the unhappy state` into
'He adverted to the Resolutions-To the first which Sweden fell after the death of Chink.* 'XII.
here could be Ile objection. The Right liontepr- by attempting to Abridge the power of his suecee.
able Gentleman (Mr. Perrevii) needed not have ton ; when, in fect,,the King became the mere dee-
by contrasting rant of the State; and 'if we are wise, we *shall be'; any apple of triscUnl,
'the di 'erect conduet of parties •at the period. of . cautious of setting a precedent to this ConntrYs of
1.'1788 and at the present day. That Right Honour. a similar degradation of the Royal Authority. . . .
able Gen dogma would. glee him leave, as hehad re- . Lord CASTI. ESE fiGn got up amidst feud cries
ferrcd to the precedent of 1788, to let him look to of qatstion.. It the coarse of his speech the :pat[.
tbst precedent) matured by the wisdom of Patna." eke Of tk i . Hem was not so °milkier, - Ili „ •,---eseseessmeimemeal-
, meet. Fortunately, however, • for the 'ecientry, o( .Ids taloship. li, Ooko is toe** of
i". related and Pnblisitisd lw D. Leilistn
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When the House resumed, we understand dtelit.
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4 o'clock ort WU ordered to be received Ibis day. Ad;
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has kid a very geed sigliss afec,
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" R. WrtrISOLDS."
• " HENRY IL ALFORD.
W . HE NERDIiN.
,1 R. WILLIS.

/"he Debate of task oisist,in the Commons IQ
be felt to be of the doped importaute. Tit
length at which wt, ham even it shuts us ost
of
all comments Vernal's° that, therefore, fort,'
noun*. flit it is impassible for us to withkia
the following intelligence from a Public whaain
k with joy. The Morning Chronicle stets
(ea TO doubt on antherity), that, on)Wednehy
last, Mr. PERCE,AL submitted, by Let*,
his PLAN of a REGENCY to the PRlNcri
expressing a hype that he might be honoured with
his RoTAt. Thatnease-osaimand to wait on hint*
know his pleasure on the subject. His }Lyn,
Iliousitss signified to Mr. PERCEVALI that Luso
step hid :1;0 been taken on the subject in the two
Houses of Parliament, he did not think it comb.
tent with his respect fur the two Rosso to
give any opinion on. the coarse of proceedir
which had bee& "submitted to him ; sad
answer concludes with expressing the Panne,
most earnest wishes that a speedy re.establisl.
meta of his MAJESTY'S !meth would mile
any metier° of .the kind unnecessary. Of csiu
no interview took place..
The Pniscn of Wittai communicated to ill
branches of his illustrious family, the Thus u
the Regency, upon which the whule of the floyal
Dukes, with one consent, *few up a &thrall
and Protest against tier Atm of proceeding;
which they addressea to Mr. PsitcavAt, fur tbt
information of Ministers at huge. It Stated in sub

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prerogadwas fdivy,timi is de bpi
Authority, as tnital4ti'tkolasttaitriad Walt of
the people,
.as f0r,..46,,n,014064:41gnity of tit
Crown i (sett self dim thiiiebOodisasst solemnly
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which placed their rassiltion the Throac.
And this Royal Protasittioigned by .tho
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wiGLIA 111 UW(&Y, 04ofigarpItet.'
g, EDWARD, Dabs of 100..:,
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AUGUSTUS FREDERIC, D4e all Slaw
' ADDLFIIeS rft.ruEitc, iialuratCo4
W I LLIAIII FREDERIC,' Duke it GINHAIR.
, • In the seightordwashancora which murals(
Wilms; boar Id- aralleala vol Nape, and a fair dsite
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jjkliits tha Ch W.* ill 4444011. or millions of aching
ilsd .irambliaig.:imittulfiot. wary from disaster
:sneaked* and alio *dila *A isscape
This 'day atrived thred*Antiott bags. Natal
1 ora's burausgs proceed. ilfr.anritne, the King 0
i Bavaria, has takc.ll of Iliailiciticstratjus an colonial
produce, and permits its;dionsekst km and ale NI
' home consumption. 'roc is ikaatettended to Ent
lish manufactures. A. fairinal:lliessage front NA.
-,etalkdsit to WW)
mpero r Eniiicts, announces 111
parer ad the Empress MAIL L 4 IowISA, hi lin
'! Shit Neenah of it. .
Thorn:wick Ittgareir Ovate* .i• Aventurisr, of 11
1-li.newnders and 48S' sen front Calais, is captor
.*.4 his biajostro , sloop Altos's:est, said carried ;
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Lord Stomata* Anlardy dined with Eli
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m. ictielk, 'in detain and send info
Bridal) pens)
,p#IC wedilb Alps they may fall
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