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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-11-04 00:00:00

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In the forthcoming season manynovelties will be produced ;
arrangements are making with many leading performers--

amongst them, Mr. and Mrs. Kean, Wallack, &c. ;
panto-
mime is in contemplation ; and at the holiday time a ballad
opera wil be produced, the music of which is composed by a
gentleman connected with this town, whose numberless songs
and ballads, as well as works of a high rank, entitle us to
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CORRESPONDENCE.

HEAR THE CHURCH."

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

Sia,—ln answer to-your correspondent A.M.," I would
observe, that Dr. Hook was by no means the original in-
ventor of the text " Hear the Church," in its isolated form.
self not unfrequently met with it so quoted by old
!though from not having noted the instances down
the time, lam at present unable to refer them. The fol-
:s may, however, serve to prove that both as
corm, the words " Hear the Church,
authorised as your correspondent seems to ima-
k. confession of Farrar, Hooper, Coverdale,
Philpot, and Bradford, made at Oxford,

1 have ti

towing extrac
to sense and

1554," I find this passrq
he Catholic church, which

are not

" We confess and believe,
the spouse of Christ, as a

most obedient and loving wife, doth embrace and follow the
doctrine of these books (of the Old and New Testaments) in
all matters of religion, and, therefore, that he is to be heard
accordingly : so that those who will not hear this church
thus following and obeying the word of her husband, we
count as heretics '

"If he will not hear the church, lc
heathen."

chgmatics, according to this saying :
I him be unto thee as an

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xiii.. 12 v. D„G_Donne writes

thus :—" The first time that ever Christ narti4iiechurcl7,
he invests it with the assurance of perpetui ''''l..Tpon this
rock will I build my church, and the gate's:, • •rC• shall not
prevail against it." (Matt. xvi., 18.) T • is denoted
the strength and stability of the church j, '.elf, and then
the power and authority of the church upon,Athers, in those
often directions—" dic ecclesht," complained to the church,
and consult with the church ; and then " audi ecclesiam,"
hearken to the church, be judged by the church, hear not

them that hear not the church ; and then " ejice de cute-
sia," let them that disobey the church be cast out of the
church. In all which we are forbidden private couveuticles,

private spirits, private opinions

. „
I have no doubt that with a little searching I could mul-
tiply passages to the same effect, but the above may suffice
to prove the point with which I set out. I subjoin a further
extract from the same sermon, which may serve as an answer
to your correspondents :—" To know which are the Scrip-
tures, to know what the HOLY GHOST sap in the Scrip-
tures, APPLY THYSELF TO THE cnuncn. Not that the
church is a judge above the Scriptures, (for the power and
commission the church hath, it bath from the Scriptures,)
but the church is a judge above thee, which are the Scrip-
tures, and what is the sense of the HOLY GHOST in them."
Dr. Donne died in 1631.

I remain, Sir, yours, &c.,
CLERICUS

PITT-STREET WARD

TO THE EDITOR,OF,.THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

Sin.,—Now that the excitement of our election is almost
over—l say almost, because it is whispered we shall hear a
little more about it—permit me to address you in a few words
upon the late very strange proceedings
It seems that one of our most respe
about a week of the

ble drapers, within
tion, jumped over his counter, and

then by another jump, found himself chairman of Mr.
Fawcett's committee, having leaped over all the subordinates,
such as secretary, treasurer, and committeemen. "The news-
papers give us no account of any public meeting on the
occasion, but no doubt the chairman was installed by
acclamation.

Being so very young in the political arena, the chairman
could not be expected to know much of political tactics, and
therefore his first essay ought to have been forgiven ; but as
Mr. Taylor's committee thought not, and published a reply
to it, and as that reply elicited some "observations" from
Mr. Fawcett's committee, and the whole three documents
have been published in the newspapers, as well as circulated
in the ward, they have become public property, and therefore
liable to be commented upon by any person who will take
the trouble.

It is a new sort of political warfare to inquire how much
money a candidate publicly spends upon benevolent institu-
tions. A man may be as benevolent as his neighbour, and
Yet not pay his money through a subscription-list. The test
is a bad one (and I don't think we shall hear of any patent
being taken out for these new political scales) ; for a person
may be very fit for a councillor whose means do not permit
him to subscribe to as many institutions as his neighbour
seems to think be might ; and, on the other hand, a person
may expend a deal through subscription-lists, whose want of
judgment, whose want of time, or whose extreme old age,
may render him very unfit to enter the council chamber.

But allow me to refer to the attack first published, in which
I find Mr. Fawcett's committee misquoting from their
opponent's address ; for I don't find in the address the words
" making money." No one knows better than the chairman
that it is unfair to quote erroneously, and to do so purposely ;
though the words in the address may be considered by some

as tantamount to " making money,;" yet, -had those two
words been found in the address, the writer would have been
ridiculed.

As to the twelve societies which they name as not being
subscribed to by Mr. Taylor. I would observe that it was
most unfair to search the records of only fifteen societies,
when they might have searched the records of nearly fifty ;
and consequently their sequitur, " three guineas being the
grand total of his charitable contributions," is inconclusive,
and proved by the statement of Mr. Taylor's committee to
be contrary to fact, and admitted in the " Observations "
from Mr. Fawcett's committee to be so, because they there
acknowledge the subscriptions to amount to ten guineas ;
and perhaps, had they known that at first, they would not
have issued t•ieir slanderous circular. I quite agree with
them that £1 Ils. 6d. subscription should not have appeared
as a payment to a charitable object ; nor should the £lO
donation have been added up with the subscriptions, but it
certainly should have been mentioned as a charitable pay-
ment made last year, because the attack only speaks of the
reports of last year; and not only so, but because a person
who gives a donation of £lO in one year to a given object, is
very likely to do the same some other year.
In bringing forward so novel and unheard of an accusation
against Mr. Taylor, the parties should have been doubly
cautious, and perhaps in that case they would have avoided
another statement, namely—that they had looked through
the reports of the last year, when it turns out from " the
observations," that, so far as the Northern Hospital is con-
they must have " referred to the report for 1839." _

I cannot say whether the £5 donation to the Strangers'
Friend Society. was paid or not—Mr. Taylor says it was ;
but I should .wish to draw the attention of the public to the
following extract from - the observations ;"—toe insinuation
is bad indeed ; namely—" It may have been given "to serve
the purposes of this election."—Yours, &c.,
AN ELECTOR.

[The £5 was paid to the Northern Hospital through Mr.
Kaye of the Courier-office, and the receipt of it was ac-
knowledged through that paper.]
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LIVERPOOL PROTESTANT ASSOCIATION

(From the Dublin Evening Mail.)

Our columns this day are nearly engrossed with the report
of the meeting of the Protestant Association, at Liverpool,
on Wednesday. We have the satisfaction of giving to our
readers a full and correct detail of the speech of the Rev.
R. J. M`Ghee—than which, we will venture to say, a speech
pregnant with more important matter has never been deli-
vered by that gentleman, or we might say by any other in-
dividual, on the subject of Popery ; and we could earnestly
recommend to all men, and not more to Protestants than
Roman Catholics, a patient examination of the documents
laid before the public, and the plain reasoning on those do-
cuments contained in this speech

Slr. M`Ghee adduces a work of the most unquestionable
authority, even from the pen of the Pope himself, in which,
before he ascended the papal chair, he asserted the infallibility
of the man who fills it—the supremacy of his dominion—the
nature of his government—that the very essence of that go-
vernment is its immutable and perpetual activity—that this
activity consists in setting forth and maintaining its laws—
that the actual exercise of the church's authority, her un-
flinching assertion of her .rights, her utter incapability of
abandoning her pretensions, is indispensable even to her
existence—that her authority is set up by Christ, as supreme
over all'hurnan powers—that all who refuse obedience to her
are to be. punished—that obedience to her is obedience to
God himself—and that the Pope is armed wi h power to
enforce obedience, which consists in that of excommunica-
tion, independent of all other powers on earth.
Mr.f 11,1`Ghee, having demonstrated these premises, argues
incontestibly that these principles must be those of the whole
body of the Cardinals, who elected as their head the man
who had set them forth, and necessarily the principles of all
those whom the Pope invests with any authority in all the
world. He also argues, a priori, that the man who sets
forth such principles must, according to his power, ne
cessarily carry his own principles into effect.
Then he traces with the most distinct precision the effects
which he has before so often brought home against the Irish
hierarchy, and which they have never been able, even in one
instance, to contravene from the very year the Pope ascended
the chair of Peter, namely, 1831. In that year he proves
that the Irish bishops of this province enacted their statutes
in synod, setting no Dens to direct the consciences of the
people. The next year, 1832, the Pope issues his encyclical
letter, condensing in it, in fact, the principles of his book.
In that year Dens issues from the press, and a code of laws
of the must iniquitous, anti-social, persecuting character was
added, to give the force of law to the worst principles of
Dens ; while books containing the most dangerous doctrines
which have ever disgraced the Papal Church, were printed,
and are actually at press, some of them, not yet finished, under
the authority of the Pope himself, at Rome—and the medals
commemorating the massacre of St. Bartholomew are yet
being struck from his mint—while the present lecturer in his
own college is demonstrating the right of the Pope, as Christ's
representative, over every baptized person, as his subject,
owing him obedience beyond all that he owes a temporal so-
vereign—and also is laying down the law that " religious tole-
ration is impious and absurd!"

It is impossible for any sober man, who reads Mr. M'Ghee's
speech, to doubt, for a moment, the object of the Pope and
ail the hierarchy of Rome, or to doubt that they are, at this
moment, to the utmost of their power, secretly—if, indeed,
it can be called secretly—carrying, out their own temporal su-
premacy,wt
speech,ihe every
can
not only in this immediate empire, but wherever
throughout the world. The statements, in this
ich
hrow a light over the universal activity of Popery,
man remarks, but of which this statement in-
controvertibly demonstrates the system and the principles, by
laying clearly open the mainspring that moves the machinery
of it all.

Mr. M`Gbee, we would observe to Roman Catholics, shows
that this is not the system of the laity but the hierarchy; but
he proves how the hierarchy make religion the instrument of
moving the laity. We would urge our Roman Catholic
neighbours, then, to reflect what the issue of such a system
of iniquity must be.

PROPERTY.—`` I do not know,"
Lit
says Dr. Paley, " wise_
thee our attachment to property be not something more than
the
.mere dictate of reason, or even the mere effect of asso-
ciation. Property communicates a charm to whatever is the
object °fi i
t. It is the first of our abstract ideas ; it cleaves
to us the closest and the longest. It endears to the child its
plaything, to the peasant its cottage. to the landowner his
prospect and scenery.
estate. It supplies the place ofln-
stead of coveting the beauty of distant situations, it tehches
every man to find it in his own. It gives boldness and gran-
deurfaiiovitso.,p,LaiNnsataunrdai fenstinge and colouring to clays and
Theology.

Pans-TON AND WYDD RAILWAY.—A
as }
of the
share
bring
holders of the Preston and Wyre Railway w
Monday, when it was determined, with the view to -eldon
the
undertaking in its proper light before the public, that a com-
mittee should he appointed to devise measures for
the pay-
ment of the interest due to the Royal Exchange Assurance
Company, and also to report generally on its affairs
and pros-
pects. Sir Hesketh Fleetwood, M.P., and Mr. I. Abel
Smith, M.P., were present to support the arguments adduced
in the directors' report in favour of a
steady perseverance on
complete
the part of the shareholders tothe whole of the
project, including the harbour and docks
; and a statement
was made by the managing director, from which it would ap-
pear, that if proper pecuniary
. measures were adopted, a
lucrative traffic may eventually
be opened by means of steam-
vessels with the northof
Ireland, and also the Scotch coast,
from Fleetwood. The prol •
riety of government being called
upon to make a harbour of
refuge in that locality was also
hinted at as a point which
should stir up the shareholders to
exertion to prevent their property being sacrificed through a
sale by the mortgagees, and to secure to themselves the fair
profits looked for as sure to result from unity among them
in carrying it to a completion. The committee was named,
and another met •
tin will be held to r • •
wive its report.