The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-06-18 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PAR LIAME.NT. men, he believed, were present while 7
was given ; nay, he doubted whether th
BOUSE OF LORDS, Ants IL I present yesterday'.—[Hear, heat !]—‘ille. acrobted;
The Irish Loan Bill and the Irish Customs Bill paved through 1
even if an- Honourable Baronet (we believe' Sir C•
Committees, and were reported.
The Committee on the Orders in Council wets, on the motion I price), who seemed to wear a smile on his face on
cf the Earl of LA If DE RDA LE, postponed till to-morrow. I the oc*sion, was precept yesterdny.—Tilis was one
The Depot', Usher Odle Black Roil having announced at We .1, •
hi his opinion, the privileges of
Bar that the tommou.s were waiting the conference (agreed to•
lot Uiw ogles
sal Monday relative to the Lords' Amendments in the whftbY. House were best maintained by Mingling with'
Harbour fiat, in the Painted Chamher, the Lords appointell to •
justice a large .portion of mercy. The disadran.
manage the conference, namely, Earl Fitzwilliam, the B&W
of (Word, Lord Walsiiigham, Lord Kenyon, Lord Stiwall of tageous circumstances under which these Reports
t iodic!' (Earl of Gulli,way), Lord Sheffield, and Lord Lander. were given, if they did net titelicare;At leitsPgied-
dale, went forth. Ou their return. Earl Fitzwilliam reported. •
the reasons assumed by the Commons for disagreeing to the opeal - whew the
ly extenuated the oirence ; anti, ho 4 .
Lords' Amendments, arid the Report was ordered to be taken individual should be brought to the bar, he would
into consideration on Friday.
on the third mooing of ow posituagaLathisia Bm, the m„,, be Tercifully .dealt. with. if any indig*
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(lois of DOUGLAS orgtd severnl.oblections to the Bilt, and was tons it rightto coflplainfi il. was perhaps. himself.
rellied to by Lord Viscount Meli.iNe• The was .real a The te'irere twolseveraj, cases in which words had
third time.which he
The alarquisof DOUOL proposed a Clause for the ptsr- moods that paper,
been put into his reo very .
pose of giving more (rower to the Lieuteriantein of the re- , 451 11006,4ttetedylkn4l much* Act prejerriceoltim•
speedy* Counties relative to the remuneration of Constabliia;_n_ Hie' OPi mai of the ccututry. .
Schoolmasters, and others employed' under the Act, OA ishicista.
Ahlr. BARING 'hoped 'the Iloneuiwb
House divided, ie
Contents for the Clause :
`2 would be satisfied. with 'the explanation-which had
Not Content! • 1 •
..tiLis place.
Mr. C. ADAM said he hid himself suffered from
the misrepresentation of his conduct during the en-
quiry in the ease of the I)uke of York.
Mr. MARRYATT had no other desire but to
let himself right, and he thought that that object had
been very fully obtained by what had fallen from
the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, and ether
Honourable Members. If he had any desire of pu-
nishing the printer, it would be in wishing him to
print, free of expence, his evidence from beginning to
laugh.]
Mr. H. SUMNER said a few words from under
the gallery, which we could not hear.
Mr. PONSONBY could see no good purpose
would be served in bringing forward the printer.
On the SPEAKER putting a question to the
House, whether (as the Honourable Gentleman had
expressed himself satisfied, they would consent to
his withdrawing the motion), several Members would
not consent.
The gallery was then cleared for a division, when
the numbers were—
For the Motion, that the Printer attend.. 110
Against it ..
Majority
On our re-admission to the Gallery, Mr. ROSE
was complaining with some warmth, of the hardships
to which public men were exposed, in having their
conduct unfairly misrepresented. He would say, if
the Board of Trade had been guilty of the conduct
charged upon them by the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman (Mr. Brougham), namely, giving orders
to the Cs' mimissioners of Customs' to exaggerate the
value of exports, such a practice ought to be treated
with the punishment of the House. In order to give
the Honourable and Learned Gentleman an oppor-
tunity of proving his assertions, and to himself and

• Majority 9 1
The Bill was then nave.
On the motion of the Earl of HAIIROW BY the considera-
lion of the Report of the Curates' Bill was pustpunc4 till to-
morrow.
LATE MINISTERIAL NCOOCIATIONS.
The Earl of MOIRA gave notice, that there would probably
N. some discos.sion on Friday respectiog the Papers to which re-
ference*lad been made in the House a few days ago.
INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
The House resolvAl itself into a Committee on the English In-
solvent Debtors Bill.
The Fort of AIOIR A. proposed a Clause, n hich was agreed
to, authorising the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, the
Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, and the Lord Chief
Baron of the Exchequer, each to appoint a Barrster for the
parpase of considering cases where the amount of debts exceed-
ed 90001. (the amount limited in the Bill) and giving such relief
in those cases as should be prescribed under rules for that pur-
pose &their respective Courts.
The Karl of L A UDER 1)A LE proposed a Clause, irhich was
also agreed to. for the purpose of extending the benefit of the
Act to the British Settlements in the East Indies; where, his
Lordship rated, that /teflons had been imprisoned for debt for
seventeen or eighteen years, no Insulveut Act having been ex-
tended to them.
The House having resumed. the Bill was reported by Lord
Walsingbarn, and ordered to be printed u amended.
The commit ment.of the Irish Issolveat Debtors' Bill was post-
polled till to-morrow. • •
ORDERS IN COUNCIL.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE stated, that he had come
down to the House with the intention, in cotrequenee of what
hod passed in another place. of putting some questions to the
Nnb e I art now or late at the head of the Board of Trade, re-
spectingthe determination of his Majesty's Ministers rela'ive to
the Orders in Connell. The Noble Earl not being present, he
gave notice, that if it was convenient for the Noble Earl to at-
tend to-morrow, he wonid then put his questions.
Adjourned till to-morrow (this day).

HOUSE OF CONINIONS.
The Report of the Claw Doty Bill was brought up, and the
Bill ordered to be read a third time to-mbrrow, and then en-
grossed.
General GASCOIGNE moved for leave to bring in a Bill
to ►epeal certain parts of the Dublin Harbour Bill.—Leave
given.
The Scots Excise Bill was read a second time, and ordered to
be committed to-morrow.

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The motion of Sir S. RONIILLY, relative to Lincoln Gaol, his colleagues an opportunity of vindicating their con-
was potooned to to-morrow se'nnight. duct, 17e should-stove that copies of all letters from
Sir T. TURTON moved for the postponement of the Commit-
tee oa the Publincani Bill to next day. the Board of Trade to the Commissioners of the
0' ISACH OF Pltivtircw. Customs to encourage any frauds in the valuing of
Mr. mARKYArr rose to complain of a passage goods entered for exportation at the Custom-House,
in the Report of an Ilonotlrable and Learned Gen- ) should be laid before the House.
tlemates speech, last night, on the subject of the{ Mr. BROUGHAM said, it now appeared that
Orders, in one of the Morning Papers, in which he 1 those engaged in newspapers were not the only per-
was named as haling befit th person, who, in his I soRS who were guilty of misrepresenting what passed
evidence before the Committee of the House, denied !;„ ter House, Its answer to the Right Hon. Geu-
tbe existence of any distress of thepeople of the Ma- ! tlemate he had to tell him that he never said any
Itufacturiug Districts, and stated that oatmeal and i thing like what he had imputed to him ; and this
water were sufficient for them. Before he said one i would supersede the awful necessity of dragging to
word about himself, he should say a few words about I punishmeut the Board of Trade, and the Commis.
that statement, which, in his opinion, could not but I sinners of the Customs.[Laugh.]--He never had
with groat grains of allowance be given to any wit- f said that any letters had passed between these two
MIL It bad been said of an ancient writer Nihil bodies en the subject, or that instructions were given
tetigit .quell non ornarii*. In the same wey.it might for over-rating the value of exports. Even if he had
Le said of the Hon. Gent. (Mr. Btougham), that he known that such was the case, be was not raw
was very apt taheighten and to colour whatever he enough, or foolish enough to suppose that such a
touched ; and that which he had already heightened, soft intercourse was to be carried on by letters.—
it appeared was again further heightened by the Re- [Hear, hear!]—He never supposed that an Hon.
porters and Composers of the paper in question. So Secretary, whom he now saw in his place, would
much in justice to the witnesses. As to himself the ever think of writing a letter to the Commissioners
House would bear witness, that not one syllable had : of the Customs, in which he should begin with say-
ever been asked him on the.subject in question, from j lag, I have the commands of my Lords to instruct ,
the verfbest reason in the world, because, frombis re- I you to falsify and exaggerate the entries of all goods
sidenceand pursuits, he was totally incompetent to 1 exported from this country. [Laugh.] No, no;
speak of the state of the Manufacturing Districts. H I -
Ile this sort of intercourse would be carried on by winks
had never ridiculed their distresses—on the contrary, and nods, and not one word would be expressed in
be wished most sincerely that every means should be such a way as could be laid hold of, though the cir- 1
taken calculated to alleviate their distresses ; and the 1 cumstance might at, the same time be known to the
tenour of his evidence was to guard the Howse against I whole City of London. [Hear, hear!] He had
the danger of allowing our Manufactures to 'be su- ' only said, that there was a fellow-feeling on the ,
perseded abroad by the Manufactures of France.— I subject—that the one party wished to see the exports I
Manufactures were the source of our opulence, and as high as possible, and the other party wished na-
as they rise and fall our commerce must rise and fall turally to gratify that wish ; and for his belief be
also. Now, had he resided in the neighbourhood of went on the evidence of a person who stated, that
Spitalfields, what, be would ask, might have been Ihe had known goods worth 501. entered. at 50001„ I
the consequences to his family ? It was too much However, he should have no objection whatever to
that a man should not only suffer in his character by accede to the motion.
such a mistake, but that the safety of his family Mr. ROSE said, they might easily prove whether
should also be endangered by it. lit justice to him- 1 such winks or nods ever lobkplice.
.elf, and every Member of the House, he thought 1 The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER had
this trespass ought not to pass without notice. He' made every possible . enquiry es to the instance of
was shortly to go down to a manufacturing district, 1 false entry brAught forward, and he was couvinckl I
where a part of his family at present resided. What, ; that the whole was a falsehood, though he did not !
he would ask, was the reception he had every roe-; impute the origin of that falsehood to tee worthy
son to anticipate ?: He therefore moved that the' Gentleman by whom it had been brought forward.'
Priuter of the Paper complained of should be ordered : He quoted Adam Smith in favour of the general ac-
to attend at the Bar of the House. ' i curacy of the Custom-house entries.
Mr. BaOUGHAM said, if he could have antici- Mr. MARRYArf said, the over-valuation of
peed that the observt.eons which, in the discharge . Exports was impracticable in the nature of things.
of his duty, he had thought it his duty to make, and 1 The amount entered depended trot on the Custom.
'that his narrative of what the House had net wit- house, but on gmeMerchants and their Clerks, over
nessed, namely, the conduct of the witnesses in the whom the Custom-house had no controul whatever.
Committee could have led to such an unpleasant miss
Tj Colonel BASTARD said a few-words, which we
take, he knew not but he should have overcome his . could not itears
scruples, and at once named the person. If was not her. Reyege explained; •
his Honourable Friend, if he would give him leave Sir JOIIN NEWPORTreseito say a few wtrds,
to call him so, but a perfectly different person he 1 but the cry of .Question becoming general, he could
had alluded to, who was not, and never had been a mot, be heard bet qs. . . . .
-Member of the House. Even yet, however, he The Motion was then put-and carried. ..
would not reveal his name, in tenderness to the per. . Lord ARCIII.II4D HAMILION/presented a
son himself. With respect to the report Of what It'. Petition froteseivei 'llltatulactating • Places i the
had said, iewas by ne means correct. le some resPeeteit 1 Cottage* of Datseefilid"lseicester.—Ordered taltexisa:
fell short, and in others it heightened it; hut With ' she eabbe,' ---" " ; ''. .
respect to himself he would maintain, that what he I . leteeNeGAl.VilliVir moved for a 'List of all 'the
did say was not a coloured or painted statement; bet 1
Officers Prisoners q[. War in 'Great. grittlil'l9 who hat/
mas as accurate a statement as his memory furnished .broken thbirArttlii.i which, after a. liew words from
him •m ith et the time of what passed during the gilt:. Lord C4STLEtiFoIGII,. was-acceded to: .. ~ •
log of the evidence. When. the Ron. 'Gentleman i Mr. WHITBREAD• lento:tried his motiCiti total-
talkc.i of a painted statement, he thought be heard 'ins to the Dissenters' to this.day settuight..... •
something like a cheer from the beeches behind him, ; site SiIIIRIDAN'S pI.PLANATION.- ,• - .
u !licit struck him the more, ailnone of these,gentle- ' • Mr. SHERIDAN spoke
,t, liq'substanC'eltetly ii.s- '
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• Vida lkohnstia's Epitaph oa Cieldsatiths '
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