The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-06-28 00:00:00

he general,' agreed ; but he Was urked by a strong
sense of ibity to say, as he could not hesitate to Jo were
it even his last word, that he deprecated the course
which they proposed to pursue upon the present occa-
sion.—(llear, hear !)
Lord HoLLasits rose, in order to state his reasons for
voting in favour of the motion before the Howse. The
Noble Lord entered into a detail of the precedents which
referred to the course adopted in the present ease, con
tending there was none which authorised the.pruce;ding
by Secret Committee in the first instance. He was not
very old, but in the course of his Parliamentary life he
hail bad the great misfortune of seeing 110 less thaw
seven green bags. invoking the liberties of every indi-
vidual in the country, placed on the tab!e of that House.
lie agreed with a Noble Lord who hail stated, that a
Bill of Pains and Penalties could originate with that
House. Since the Revolution, however, they had gene-
rally originated with the other House. The case which
hr was able to quote as must in point, was the case of
Lord Clarendon. Some measures were going on in the
other House, likely to lead to an impeachment of that
Noble Lord ; and a Rill was brought up to that House.
tending to the same end, when a negotiation was thought
fit to be set on foot. 'I his negotiation was on the pal'
of t:.e King,who wished Lord Clarendon to leave Buell no,
in order to tranquAlim the country. Actuated by fe
ings of conscious innocence, however, he did not like
to comply with the wish of his Royal Master. How
ever, from feelings of respect he eventually consented in
withdraw, and did so accordingly. Not three days Mgr
a Bill of Pains and Penalties was brought against"
for running away from justice: and indeed, en most in-
!deuces, if they looked at the cases of Bills of Attainder,
they %wild find that it was for running away from justice.
The distinguishing feature of the present case however
was, that the object of negotiation was to force her
Majesty to leave the country—to do what was termed in
Parliauirtifary language, /lying from justice; and in the
event of her Majesty's compliance she was to be re-
warded—rewarded for leaving the kingdom with that
which was already intended to maintain her in proper
state and dignity iu it.—(Hear!)—With reference so
the doctrine Itelst with respect to the Illustrious Person-
age who was illustrious, as well trout her ancestors us
from her station, his opinion was, that she was the tir
I subject of it.,. state, liable to imprailiment, if in her seas
t• she were so to abuse her power as to create a public
evil lie had the authority of Lord Somers, at least, tier
this 'llB4li...use. Of all the precedents that hail been
brought forward in the discussion of this matter, be con-
tended there was not one in favour of the present ease:
lint that in those • where there was any analogy.
it was all against the appointment of a Secret tum-
mittee. This part of tlie proceeding was not at all
necessary, anal was very grievous to the party CO9-
cerned. There was a strung contrast between the
conduct of Ministers on the present occasion, ant! on
that of a late qnestion in some respects similar. He al-
luded to the case of the Manchester Magistrates. ti hen
it was proposed to impeach them, it was strenuously
cried out —that an inquiry would he prejudging the caass.
(Cheers.)—Now, however, they held a different tone,
and refused to listen to the complaints made on all sides,
of prejudging the cause of the accusal, in going into an
inquiry un ex-porte evidence. He called on the House
to think of the consequences which the taking this un-
necessary step would have on the mines of the country.
He could nut bear to think of the appearance this would
hare to the remoter, after the conduct of the House of
. Would it not he said that after a vain at-
tempt to saddle that high-spirited animal with the
burthru of the whole matter, they had been obliged to
come had, to that Iloa a as a pack-horse, that would
bear all the drudgery, and do all the dirty work of lige-
vr•rnuieut. Ile confesfed that lie had seen with regret
the name of the Archbishop of Canterbury as one of the
persons appointed to constitute the :onnuittee ; that in-
dividual appearing as the responsible Adviser of the
Crown in the act of removing her Majesty's name from
the Litnrgv. It. conclusion, he assured their Lordships
that if ever lie was in earnest in the course of his Parlia-
mentary life, lie was on the present occasion, in depre-
rating the Secret Cosa 111 l
The Ars•lshishop of CsmTVPRI/ItY felt himself called
on to rise after what hail fallen from the Noble Lon!.
lie thought the Noble Loral was not Cori ect in his opt-
saints. lie should be glad to see the Act in support of
his opinion. if lie thought it were true. The only Act
lie knew of relating to Use subject was the Act of Uni-
birmity ; and he was positive it was nut there. If the
Noble Lord could not point out the very part from
which he had taken his Aka, he should conclude it was
a gratuitous • . lion. if it could be shown that his
honour or character was in any way affected by his be-
longine to this C •ttee, he world be ready to resign
Ithat honour altogether.
bird ',ULLA NU explained, that he was certainly mis-
informed if the Right Rev. Prelate was not the respon-
sible adviser of the Act alluded to. lie understood that
no Art whatever could originate with the Sovereign of
the country: he t therefore have his constitution ti
asliisers, and in that situation he conceived the Right
Rev. Prelate to stand.
Lord Liesartint. observed, that the Act referred to
was dune by an Order in Council.
Lord Weer explained.
Lord Haat' took the same line of argnment as the
Noble Lord (11olland), contending, that the Archbishop
of Canterbury was 1181. responsible person.
Lord it tux LET said, that if no 011 P else slid, he should,
at a future day, make a motion, tending to call Minis-
ters to acconiat for this Act.

The II leke then divided, when the numbers were—
I 'ontessts - - - -
Nun-Contents - • MY
Majority —55
Adjourned at twelve o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONti, Tossett. Just 27.

The• 11(.1e.vree4 wee!: sd until Ise cieloelt on %Hots for
Coassuinees tm ihe Colchester and N'otton Basset Election
petition+.
Lord Fotk:s.roNa presented a petition from the fr►e-
holden of the County of Berks. praying such a regulation of
election pulls, as would prevent a vexatious protraction of
election..

• After a few words from Mr. F: I.awts end Mr. Devvan,
the petitioa was ordered to be printed.
Mr. F. P presented a petition from the freebolrlen
of Reading, prating for an alteration in the mode of tekteg
the totes for the county of Berks.—Ordered to Ile on the
table.
LIR ANIPOUND ELECTION.—Lord J. Reesaidi sold.
that the debate on this (meadow bad been so kW( end s 3
often adjourned, be now gave notice that he would certainly
bring it on to-morrow.
MILAN COM 111 INS lON. —Sir R. Vesicant gave "notice,
that he would on Thursday nest bring formed a motion re-
spectieg the Milan Commission.
Mr. D presented • petition from Mr. Nett of a na-
ture slinkier to that presented se behalf of the same Grails-
=as to the House of Lords on Monday last. The }ion. and
Leaned Deadness took heensien to say, that tits law, with
respect so the power of Magistrates coemittleg to priioe. in
cases of libel, was of a novel eaters; that power was coati-
dered by matey as as userpadoe. It inliAt be necessary to -
cued/et bow be a govtere eerskirreil taw as illegal
and enormous. ought 19 beittellited visits die indent limits
of the Conslitutioa.—The jelition was welted In be pleated.
Mr.C. Oa AWf obtained limes So Meg tea NU to regulate
the Irish Fisheries ; sad it was ordered that th, Hoses should,

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