The Statesman.
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Haldeman believe that his Majestr',
itsistgri were capable of throwing phsteeles in the
1,3, of her 31ajesty's defence ? So far was his Ma.
Hover,onent from using its power to obstruct
ator/nes tot' justice, that he had made a tender to
o,Hohourshle and Learned Haldeman who was to
odnct her Siajcsty's defence, to esert el, his influence
erigd for the purl oar of giving every facility to the
cone of justice.
me • CAR LET r said, that the Noble Lord had mis-
represeuted the arguments of his Hon.' and Learned
Friend. His Han. end l.earned Friend had not pro- ,
!Aril these clauses fur the purpose of insinuating any I
(bunnies against his blajesty's Ministers
onteary, he had distinctly stated that his object was
t„ repel. such calamities. He (Mr. S.) could not be.
left that the Noble Lord would make any Improper
se of the powers conferred by this Bill ; yet it was
ettremelv possible that the Noble Lord might be sus-
and he would tell the Noble Lord why. lie
nut believe that the country at large entertained
that opinion of the perfect integrity and freedom from
11 motive which the Noble Loai could not but enter-
of himself. With respect to the constitutioaal
grounds of this measure, he thou!:,. ht no man could do
eredit to himself or good to the country by looking far
back fot precedents. He would look only for authori-
ties to the tiara' the Revolution, and to subsequent
pitioit, and lee was prepared to contend that the
Croce never bat *prerogative which enabled it in
time of peace tN &pose of the persons and liberties of
Aliens is the sweet in which Government was em•
powered to do by the provisions of this Bill.
Mr. W. POLL said, he should not trouble the House
at any length upon the merits of this question, but he
could not forbear making some observations upon what
had fades from the Hon. and Learned lientleman who
bad just sat down. That Learned Gentleman had as- ,
serted, is round terms, that the conduct to which his
Noble Friend bad alluded,was a proof of the suspicions
which the public.entertained of his Majesty's Ministers.
He pmumed that the Hon. and Learned Haldeman
alluded to the outrageous violence which had been ex-
hibited at Dover towards certain individuals who
landed there, because it was supposed that they came
fur the purpose of giving evidence on the approaching
important State proceeding. Did the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman call that act the expression of public opi- ,
Dhoti ft was the art of a rabble. He readily al-
lowed
that the rabble were hostile to the present Ad-
ministration. He hoped they always would be so.
It was a proof that the present Administration. had'
acted with energy, and had successfully supportesitbr.
dignity of the Crown, and the interests of the moutstry.
The Hos. and Learned Gentleman had, night after
eight, called his Majesty's Ministers a weak, vacillat-
iaf, disjointed, wretched Administration, incapable
efcoodecting the affairs of the country, enjoying no
(widener any where.—(Mr. Scarlett appeared to deny
baring used those terms.)—The Hon. and Learned
aratleman had a short memory. Did he say that he
had not meant to describe Ministers as a wretched,
*sable, vacillating set of men ? He should be
baggy to hear the Hon. and Learned Geadeases dis-
avow it.
Mr. Scummy said, be had no lateadou ed disavow-

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Mr. W. Pets observed, that he had a right then to
collider the Hes. nod Learned Gentleman as avowing it-
SCABLITT allowed that his meaning had the
tendency *apposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman,
but trusted that be was incapable of using some of the
words imputed to him. He bad called the Right Hon.
Gentleman's colleagues weak, vacillating, and ines-
capable of administering the affairs of the country in
the present crisis. Their acts and measures fully
justified his baring so characterised them, and he
would so characterise them still.—(Hear, bear !)—He
said this without intending penoaal disrespect to any
of the individuals of whom the Administration was
was composed ; but as a Member of Parliament, he
was entitled boldly to declare his opinion of their
conduct as a body.—(Hear, hear!)
Mr. W. PoLn was proceeding to make some further
remarks on what bad fallen from the Hon. and Learned

Gentleman, when
The Seeskalt interfered, and reminded the Right
Hon. Gentleman of the great inconvenience that might
arise, were the rules of the House to permit any Hon.
*ember to refer to particular expmstons used in
firmer debates.
W. Pot.' replied, that he should always bow
le the Chair with that respect which was due to it
when it was filled as it was at the present moment.
Without, however, referring to former debates, he
wadi advert to what the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman had pretty boldly stated in the present die-
cession. According to the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman, his Majesty's present Government were
charged with wanting the confidence of the House and
of the country. Who were they who so charged
them ? He had long wished for an opportunity of
teaching on these things. He would say nothing of
the conduct of the Gentlemen opposite during the late
'Sr. He would say nothing of their prediction, that
net ems of our soldiers would land in the Peninsula
who 'mild not remain there as a primmer. He would say
nothing of their tinvoried anticipations of the triumph
of Bonaparte. The public plainly saw that these men of
gesias—theseanituadverters upon the conduct of others,.
with all their talents and all their confidence, were eter-
nally in the wrong, as he trusted to God they always
be-••(A loud laugh.)—and that when they came
to tbe paint they were wholly ineffective and feeble.
He woe sorry to see that what he had said bad agi-
tated the Hoa. and Learned Gentleman.-,--He truly
aid conscientiously declared, that the only question
for the House to determine simply was, if, by adopting
the proposed clause, they would throw a slur on his
ifgestY's Government. which had not been cut upon
them by any former House of Cosunioas ?
Hr. Scau.arr, in explanation, said, that what he
bad observed was, that a great' many persons out of
"ta might entertain suspicions of the intentions of
Government, which certainly were not entertained by
WNW. He no more considered the sentiments of
Wit perms to express the public opinion, than he
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14V. Ps said, he understood the Hon. and
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Nu•• of public opinion.