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I asked Miss Crellin

:f she would prosecute if I apprehended Martin

She said

no, she would not. On that, I declined further interference,
informing her, that if Martin continued to annoy her, if she
gave us information we would use our best endeavours to save

her. from such annoyance

Mr. Snowball

—I believe at this time the money was paid

Mr. Rushton.—That does not appear.
. Mr. Snowball.—lt appears that the money was paid on the
11th February.

Mr. Rushton.—(To the Superintendent.)—Can you trace

the date ?
Mr. Brown.—l cannot

Mr. Dowling.—lnspector Edwards, who received the in-
formation, will probably fix the date.
Brown examined by Mr. Davenport.—Mrs. Jones went
and spoke on behalf of Miss Crellin.
Miss Crellin called.—The money was paid at Mr. Jones's
house. I went to Mrs. Clayton's after. I went to Miss
Suttons after that. That was the day when the superinten-
. dent called. The money had been paid to Martin. The per-
son who called with Brown was the gentlemau whom I called
Mr. Whitty. _ .

Anthony; Webster sworn.—l am a car driver. On the day
of the steeple chase I was plying at the Seacombe slip. A
gentleman called me to the Seacombe slip. I cannot say that
he is present. Two ladies and three gentlemen came up.
One of them walked, and the others got in. The first lady
(meaning Mrs. Jones) was one. Miss Crellin was the other.
I was ordered by the gentleman who walked to drive to St.
Paul's Church. I was told to pull up at Sixsmith's. The
gentleman who walked met me at Sixsmith's. Some wine
was ordered and handed into the car. It was not drank, but
afterwards thrown away. I drove to the church. The gen-
tleman who walked was there as soon as I was. The party
conversed with him a few minutes, but would not get out.
One of the gentleman walked into the church. The others
got out and went into the churchyard. They afterwards all
returned to the car and got in, and I drove to No. 16, Boun-
dary-street. The lady who got out at the church had either
a red cloak or shawl. It was a few minutes past eleven when
I took them from the pier.
By Mr. Grocott.—That was the first fare I bad. I had
not taken any drink. I am not mistaken about Sixsmith's.
I know well where it is.
By Mr. Davenport.—Miss Crellin got out and walked at
the church. Mrs. Jones remained in the car.
By Mr. Rushton.--.4 heard Miss Crellin ask, before they
went into the churchyard, where they intended to go. It was
before they got out of the car. I did not hear the reply. One
of the gentlemen paid the fare.
Thomas Greenwood, landlord of the White Bear, Dale-
street, sworn.—l know. Mr. Quick, Mr. M`Gill, and Mr.
Rogerson. I don't know any other of the prisoners. I don't
krow a person named Martin. [Copeland was here pointed
out.] I don't know him. He never staid at .our house. I
never left the White Bear to go with him to Hackin's-hey.
Mr. Rushton said this statement affected Jones in conse-
quence of the. evidence in chief of Mrs. Chamley. She had
stated that Jones said Martin was at the White Bear.

Sarah Hodgson, sworn.—l live with my uncle, the last
witness. Witness did not know Copeland.
Mr. Rushton said he had caused proper inquiries to be
made respecting Mr. Dryden. He had received a certificate
stating that Mr. Dryden could not leave the house without
danger. The inquiries made showed that this was true. Mr.
Grocott might wish to cross-examine him further, and he
would, if Mr. Grocott thought proper, remand the prisoners,
or a portion of them, in order to give that opportunity.
Mr. Grocott signified that this was not necessary.
Mr. Heywood Jones, a partner in the firm of Arthur Hey-
wood and Co., was called, and his testimony was read over
and signed.
Mr. Snowball asked Mr. Jones if Miss Crellin had not
money in his bank ?
Mr. Rushton said he could not permit any questions as to
money, save what were just sufficient to support the case.
Mr. Jones had already stated the fact that Miss Crellin had
money in Messrs. Heywoods' bank.
Mr. Snowball said lie merely wished to ascertain the fact :
and the question was therefore repeated. Mr. Jones replied
that Miss Crellin had money in the bank.
Mr. Rushton said he had now examined all the witnesses
which the Commissioner of Police had obtained, fur the pur-
pose of forwarding the ends of justice. His object in pursu-
ing this inquiry was to investigate the truth as far as possible.
If there were any further witnesses to bring forward this was
the time.
Mr. Snowball said he had one witness whom he thought it

advisable to call. It was a Mrs. Griffiths, with whom Miss
Crellin lodged before she went to live with Mrs. Jones. The
object was to show that Miss Crellin's habits were not what
had been represented, before she went to Jones's.

Hannah Griffiths. wife of John Griffiths, Victoria-terrace,
Rathbonc-street, called and sworn.—l _am the next door

neighbour to Mrs. Jones. I remembered Miss Crellin com-
ing to lodge with me. She lived with me three weeks, and
left me five weeks before Christmas. She behaved very well
indeed while she lived with me, and was very sober. She be-
haved like a lady, and did not drink at all. All she had was
a glass of warm ale at night when she went to bed, and that
very seldom.
By Mr. Rushton.—l never saw Miss Crellin intoxicated
while she was with me._ _ _ _ _ . . .

By Mr. Snowball.—l saw Mr. Martin during the time she
lodged with me. She went subsequently to lodge at Jones's.
By Mr. Grocott.—She had no visitors while she lived at
our house, and she did not wish any.
By Mr. Davenport.—l recollect her going to Mr. lledisb's
to get the rent. She came home about one o'clock in the
afternoon. She was perfectly sober. She told me she had
had a glass of ale. She took another glass of ale to her din.•
ner. She sent for a pint, and I had half of it. I liked Miss
_ _

Crellin very well. 1 did not keep lodgers, but Mrs. Jones
came to me and asked me to make a bed up for her. I said
I had not been accustomed to lodgers, but I would do it for
a night or two. I did so. I said I should be glad if she
would leave my house, because I thought it was too small and
not comfortable enough for such & lady as her. I did not say
she was the wickedest woman I ever heard. I will not swear
that I did not say so. I do n't remember that I did. I
liked her very well. May be I said so, because I never saw
her go to chapel or church. I talked to Miss Crellin about
it, but I did not say so to Mrs. Jones. lam a Wesleyan Me-
thodist. I never saw any wickedness about Miss Crellin save
in her absence from worship. I did not like Miss Crellin so
well after Mrs. Jones spoke to me about her. Mrs. Jones
said Miss Crellin suspected me of charging more for the tea
which I purchased for her than I gave for it. I liked Miss
Crellin as well as my own mother. I wished her to leave the
house because I was not comfortable, having to sleep up

stairs.
The prisoner Jones complained, that an individual, who
sat near the witness, kept twitching her dress when she was
about to make an admission favourable to the prisoners.
Mr. Demain, one of the witnesses, said this was the fact,
though the individual alluded to denied it.
Mr. Rushton said, if the person had so acted it was ex-
ceedingly improper; and the gentleman was directed to
change his seat.
Mr. Snowball said, just before he came into court he
received information of a witness who could give very im-
portant evidence. He wished to have the prisoners further
remanded.
Mr. Rushton declined to remand the prisoners further,
but directed that the party should be sent for, when his
evidence could be taken.
John Edwards, Inspector of Police, called.—About six
weeks ago I made a communication to Superintendent Brown,
that I received information from Mrs. Jones that Miss Crellin
had paid £250 to Mr. Copeland. I made the communica-
tion, I believe, after Copeland was taken on Mrs. Clayton's
charge. Mr. Brown and I went to see Miss Crellin at the
house of Miss Sutton, in Seymour-street. I had previously
seen Mrs. Jones. Miss Crellin came in. Mrs. Jones was
there. There was some conversation touching the money,
but I cannot remember what it was. I was there all the
time. Copeland was in custody at that time, on charge of
having taken £2O from Mrs. Clayton. Miss Crellin was
not willing to appear against him. I told her he was in
custody. A night or two before this, Mrs. Jones met me.
That was the first time I saw her. It was in Russell-street.
She said Miss Crellin had been annoyed by two gentlemen,
and she was at a house in Seymour-street. She wished me
to go about it, as Miss Crellin did not like to go out while
the parties were there. On the morning 'when we went to
Sutton's, I called at Jones's with Brown. 1 saw Mrs. Jones.
I forget what we talked about.
By Mr. Davenport.—l only went to Jones's once. Mrs.
Jones did not appear concerned, she appeared confused. I
think I said, that I had seen Miss Crellin drunk. I have seen
her drunk. It was at a public-house in company with Cope-
land. It was at Hebblethwaite's, in Church-street, about a
week before I went to Sutton's. Hebblethwaite's is a spirit-
vault. I assisted her out. She could scarcely walk. Miss
Crellin and Copeland and his friend who was with him went
away down Bold-street. It was between twelve and one
o'clock in the morning.
There being no other witness present Mr. Rushton said
the evidence taken should now be read over. Some further
witnesses were to be examined, and their testimony could be
taken after the depositions were read.
Mr. Ellis having concluded reading Miss Crellin's testi-
mony, Mr. Grocott asked Miss Cecilia if she had ever told
Mrs. Chamley that she would have married M`Gill at St.
Paul's Church, had it not been for Mrs. Jones.
Miss Crellin.—l never did.
Mr. Rushton called Mrs. Chamley and put the question
to her.

Mrs. Chamley.—Miss Crellin never made such a remark.
When the testimony of Mr. William Demain had been
read, Mr. Grocott said he believed Mr. Demain had some-
thing to add.
Mr. Rushton asked Mr. Grocott how he was aware of this.
Had Mr. Grocott examined him?
Mr. Grocott.—lies.
Mr. Rushton.—Any examinations of the witnesses on the
depositions should be taken in open court.
Mr. Grocott.—Mr. Demain wrote a note to me, saying,
that he had further testimony to give, and I was to have seen
him on the subject. He called on me this morning before
breakfast, but I was not in. He has since written a note to
me in court.
Mr. Snowball.—l can only say that Mr. Demain met me
in the street, and said he could have made the evidence
against Mr. Quick much stronger, if he pleased, and now it
appears he has been to Mr. Grocott.
Mr. Rushton.—(To Mr. Demain.)—What is it you wish
to add ?
Mr. Demain.—l did not know whether I had seen M`Gill
and Miss Crellin go down Kirkdale-road together the day
but one after the return from Gretna.
Mr. Rushton.—What induced you to call on Mr. Grocott ?
Mr. Demain.—A lady at the house which I have named
said she had seen M`Gill and his intended the night but one
after the return from Gretna walking down Scotland-road
together.
Mr. Rushton.—Is that all the evidence you have to add ?
Mr. Demain.--Yes•
Mr. Rushton.—That is not evidence. (To Mr. Grocott.)
If you wish that to be taken down, you must call the lady.
Mr. Grocott.--I have no wish to have it taken down.
Inspector Campbell was called, and his evidence, given on