The Statesman.
London, England, 1812-01-08 00:00:00

Waimea in the Support of the cdntest, which the brave nations
of the Peninsula still maintain with such unabated zeal and re-
solution.
" Ills Royal Highness commands us to express his congratu-
lations on the success of the British arms in the Island of Java.
" The Prince Regent trusts that you will concur with his
Royal Highness in approving the wisdom and ability with which
this enterprise, as well as the capture of the Islands of Bourbon
and Mauritius, has been conducted under the immediate direct.
tion of the Governor-General of India; and that you will ap-
plaud the decision, gallantry, and spirit conspicuously display-
ed in the late operations of the brave army under the command
of that distinguished officer, Lieutenant-general Sir Samuel
Anchmuty, so poworfolly sod ably suppoited by his Mteety's
naval forces.
" By the completion of this system of operations, great addi-
tional security will have been given to the British Commerce and
Posseesious in the Fast ladies, and the Colonial Power of France
will have been entirely ostiuguished.
" His Royal highness thinks it expedient to recommend to
your attention the propriety of providing such measures for the
future government of the British possessions in bolls, as shall
appear from experieste, and upon .nature deliberation, to he
calculated to secure their internal prosperity, and to derive from
those nourishing dominions the tutu.ost degree of advantage to the
Commerce and Revenue of the United Kingdom.
" We are commanded by the Prince Regent to acquaint yon,
that while his Royal Highness regrets that various important sub-
jects of difference with the Government of the Caked States of
America still remain unstated, the difficulties which the affair,
of the Chesapeake frigatehad occasioned have been finally re-
moved; and we are directed to assure you. that is the fat titer
progress of the discussions with the Voiced States. the Prince Re-
gent will continue to employ such means of conciliation as may
be eonsistent w isb the honour and dignity of hi, Majesty's Crown,
and with the due maintenance of the maritime and commercial
rights and interests of the British Empire.
6. ',ern or the Haar of Commons.
" His Royal Highness has directed the Estimates far the ser-
vice
of the current year to be laid before you. He trusts that
you will furcish him with such supplies as may be necessary to
enable him to t'ontinue the contest in which his Majesty his en-
gaged with that spirit and exertion which will afford the best
prospect of its successful termination.
" his Royal liOnew commands us to recommend that you
should romme the consideration of the state of the finances of Ire-
land, which you had commenced in the last Session of Perlis-
meat. He has the satisfaction to inform you, that the improved
reeeipt of the revenue of Ireland in the last, as compared with
the vreceding year, confirms the belief that the depresiou which
• that revenue had experienced is to be attributed to accidental
and temporary causes.
" Afq ).seit,, and Gentienten,
" The Prince Regent is satisfied that you entertain ajust
tense of the arduous duties which his Royal Highness has been
called upon to fulfil, in consequence of his Mtesty's continued

indisposior..
" Under this severe calamity, his Ra)al Highness derives
the greatest consolation from his reliance on your experienc-
ed wisdom, loyalty, and public Tint, to which in every d f-
ficalty he will resort, with a firm confidence, that through
your assistance and support, he shall he enabled, under the bles-
sings of Divine Providence, successfully to discharge the im-
portant
functions of the high trust reposed in him, and in the
name and on the behalf of his beloved Father and revered So-
vertigo, to maintain unimpaired the proyctity mid honour of
the nation."
The Commons having withdrawn, the Bar was
cleared, and their Lordships proceeded to payers,
after which the House being formed, the Duke of
D.wonshire, Lord Colthorpe, and the Bishop of
Derry, were introduced, and took the. customary
oaths. Their Lordships then adjourned during plea-
sure.
At four o'cloct the House was resumed, and the
Prince Regent's Speech being read by the Lord
Chancellor, and repeated by the Clerk,
The Earl.of SHAF MISLAY rose.—He warmly
congratulated the house and the country at large
on the general statement of the matters contained
and graciously communicated to their Lordships in
the Speech, which had just been read from his Royal
Highness the Prince Regent. The pious sentiments
of filial affection expressed by that Illustrious Per-
sonage, were such as all who heard them must admire
and revere. Whether they considered the Itemiser
of years which marked the reign of the beloved Mo-
narch, or the blessings enjoyed and diffused under
that reign, contrasted with the misfortunes and cala-
mities which prevailed in other countries, but kept
aloof from this, in a great measure, by the virtues,
wisdom, and equitable' Government of our Sove-
reign, the subject was one of the most gratify lug con-
templation. He adverted with satisfaction to the
warlike measures which had taken place, both in
Spain and Portugal, where the ablest Generals of the
enemy bad been baffled and discomfited, and a whole
filmy destroyed. If he looked to America, he saw
the pleasing prospect of all differences being termi-
nated, and of returning amity and conciliation.
his Lordship concltided by moving, that an hum-
ble Address of thanks be presented to his Royal
highness the Prince Regent, which, as it was merely
an 'oho of the Speech, it would be superfluous to
repeat.
The motion was seconded by Lord BROWN-
LOW, who observed, that after the able manner in
which his Noble Friend trad urged the tentless, little
remained for him to offer iu addition. He expressed
his deep participation in the common regret which
attended the continued indisposition of our beloved
Sovereign,and his cordial concurrence in the best
measures that could be adopted for effectually secur-
ing his comforts, and of rendering the public condi-
tion of things west acceptable to him, whenever it
shall please Providence to restore him to the hopes
of his affectionate people. His Lordship spoke in so
low a tone of voice that it was with difficulty we
could collect his words. They were chiefly, how-
ever, directed to a coincidence of sentiments and
opinions with the Noble Mover.
The motion being put,
Lord GRENVILLE said, it would have been
most satisfactory to his feelings, if the matter
of the Speech and Address had been such as
to have prevented all difference of opinihn on the
subject : but he was not surprised that this was not
the case. From some expressions in the Address,
none could dissent. That part which referred to the
afflicting intelligence relative to the state of his Ma-
jesty's health—that which announced their fixed de-
termination to support his Royal Highness the Prince
Regent in administering the •great trust reposed in
him, in a manner conducive to his own honour and
the prosperity of these realms—had his most hearty
concurrence. With regard to the conduct and valour
of our troops and officers, he was ready to join his
'thanks to the applause and admiration of Europe.—
[Hew, hem-!]—But as to what were the advantages
of such valour and conduct, depended upon a con-
sideration of the policy of the Government, uncon-

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Mr. Quarne. the Deputy Usher of the Black Rod, appeared
at the Bar, and desired the atteudance of the House in the House
of Lords..to bear the Commission read; whereupon the Speaker
attended by be Members present gave their attendance accord-
ingly.
(le bin retian, the Speaker informed the House, that since the
Mat Session he had ordered writs to be hued for the election of
he* Members for the following places, viz.—For the District of
isials, consisting of Farbrose, Elgin, &c. in the room of Peter
Illialletajon. Eeq. deceased; for the City of York, in the room
tertr W. M. ef'. Bart, deceased ; for East Grinstead, iu the
memo( Sir N. Holland, deceased; fur Totness, in the room of
Wm.. Adams,-Feq. deceased ; and for Shrewsbury, in the room
of Sir T, T. Jones, Bart. deceased.
The Spotter else aolguadated the House, that he had received
a letter from Lord Wellitigton, inclosing a Letter from General
Blake, returning thanks for the honour done to General Blake
and the Spanish Array under his cmiusaud, in the unanimous
Yee of that Home, approving of their cuuragc and braver.", in
Hes battle of Albums. The two-letters were read, mil ordered
to he entered in the Journals. •
Far new Member+, among whom were the Hoa. Mr. Duo-
das, the Hon. Mr. Bennet, Mr. Courtesy, and Mr. Graham,
took the oaths and their seats.
NEW WRITS.
New writs were ordered to be issued for the Borough of I ewes,
is be rem of Beery Shelly, Esq. deceased tap .4
the room of G. Woodford Thellusson, Esq. deceased ; and fur
gidberevggb, in Sullalk, in the room of John hl,3lahon; Esq.
-meted Paymaster of Widows peosinm, .: I
Bill to prevent clandestine ectlawries, was, as usual. r i
St ing time.
SPEECH OF THE LORDS COMMISSIONERS. : I
I', Speaker theo informed the House, that the Heim bak.
.bonn be House of Lords.ailiest head a Speech read by the
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Leal or. one of the Georoissioners, to both Houses
:if et whiab be had, toe the greater coovenbenee,
pincorod a con, and which, Speeds m leave of the Stolle, be
Amid diem rt. to there. The wm accordingly road—
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tam singesesia should not be happy in leas- Sir FRANCIS BURDETT immediately rose, aud=melm2lllaszsale
d not declare his entire con. addressed the Chair, observing, that he felt it
theh
netted with their exertions. Their merits vv.
ad fallen from his Noble duty to take the earliest possible'
opportunity of ad-
werefounded upon the policy of the Governmee
.de). In the protest made by dressing the House and his Royal highness
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their laurels to be blighted by the system .
:list that system which had been Prince Regent on a subject which seemed to him to
their employers might think proper to purspe.
calamitous and ruinous tense- be of the utmost'
importance to the country.
foe he concerted with the Address ; Wiwi*, he .s,
atry he entirely agreed. Ile did Lord JOCELYN rose at the same time with the
iieved, his concurrence ended. To different parts ' pro,-
and to what the Noble Earl op- Hon. Baronet, but Str Francis Burdett baring first
men- caught the eye of the Speaker,
of the rest, his objections might be more or less I quo
gray° '. up:ire ainte allude, when he spoke of
rebuatildtoctehesempleet"e areapPsirOnbsatailcree, Thehecotiumldt , ,
hstoif7tehngiedi; meeting of Parliament, was one, on which it i sures which I ,een highly beneficial to the interest ! The SPEAKER decided that the Hon. Baronet
had been usual to give a general outline of the pro-.! of the count 4; did he mean to allude to Ameri- was in possession of the House, if he claimed his
mineral objects which were likely to engage the at.lca., which he had not mentioned ; did he mean right.
Itention of Parliament during the Session ; a procticello say, that our conduct towards America had con- 1 Sir F. BURDETT said, he could not forego the
not only parliamentarYs but ih the highest 4;!!'gree, j tillh,eted to the prosperity of the country . He, in opportunity now afforded him of offering himself
i useful. How far this had been done, their bora.; conjunction with his Noble Friend, maintained his thus early to the attention of the House, and of
ships would judge. But he freely confessed, they former opinionS, opinions which they had both ' proposing, for their adoption, such an Address as ia
if on this day the task had been imposed upon him, i maintained, and which were unhappily confirmed by : the situation in which the country was place ,seem.
1
his heart would sink under the magnitude of the difs : system
events, by the ruinous consequences of ,ed to him to be imperiously and peculiarly called
ficultiei to be surmounted. The objects which he that system against which he had never ceased to for. In addressing his Royal Highness the Prince
`would have to consider, if he meant to provide, not , protest. What was meant by the Noble Earl oppo- . Regent in the language of truth, and telling him
. .
for the happiness alone, but even the safety of the ; site, in speaking of measures necessary to the sup- ' , what were the feelings of the people of these king.
country, were so numerous, so great, so important,' port of the Prince Regent; was it meant to be in- doms at ;
discharginh ing ae p duty ofresent mthe most ioment, he was
ortant conscious
oth
of
that he felt it almost impossible to do justice to i situated that those who opposed the measures of mp kind, b
the subject ; and, if he were to make the at. ; Government, would be guilty of disrespect to the :to the Prince and the People. From what he knew
tempt, little advantage could at any rate result i Prince ? Ile, for one, whoever might- be the Mi- !of the feelings and declarations of the Prince Re-
from it, when no distinct steps were to be pre-1 nisters, would support those measures which he be.. gent, he was persuaded that he was not one of those
' posed in consequence. It would bein vain, therefore,' tiered beneficial to the country, and should feel it his
i Princes who wished to bear nothing but what was
to trouble their Lordshipsat present with a vague, in- : duty to oppose those measures which he was con- sweet, pleasing; and agreeable. The conduct and de-
distinct statement. He did not even mean to suggestau viuced would operate injuriously on its best interests. , clarations of his Royal Highness were of a very dife
amendment to thin Address; but would content Wets i I:l:dining, therefore, at the present moment, from ferent kind, and he (Sir F. Burdett) felt that heshould
self with protesting in the strongest term* against the same motives which had actuated his Noble ; not do his duty to his constituents, to the country,
being included in any expressions implying aerobe, i.Friend, the enteritis into 'auy lengthened discussion, lor to the Prince Regent himself, if he let go the pre.
tion of the past, or a pledge of perseverance in the he had thought it his duty to state his entire concur- !sent opportunity of addressing his Royal Highness,
Isame system which had of late been lAted upon'. ! reeee with his noble Friend in his protest against ; and expressing he him what were the real feelings of
convinced as he was, that it was only by a total:4 the present impolitic and ruinous system. i the country at the present moment, and what were
radical abandonment of that system, that there ex-i The Earl of DARNLEY said a few words re- , the grievances of which we had to complain. The
isted any hope of safety for the country. [awe, ' specting the affairs of Ireland, declaring his deter- exertions of the Spanish people against our common
hear!] There were many topics of the highest im- ! mination, when the day of discussion came, of rais- enemy, were, no doubt, to be regarded by us as of
portauce lightly passed over in the Speech and Ad-: ing his voice against the system which had been pro. consequence, nor were their losses to be attributed
dress, but which would force themselves upon theirat- ductive of such calamitous consequences in that part Ito any failure
gron
ificationt our part ; and i
ow t
lift
oohed d us
tention at no distant period. They might endeavour to of the United Kingdom. pleasure and ato kna
shut their et es, but in spite of their efforts these The Duke of NORFOLK said, that as the late I brave army, who did not disgrace the spirit of their
things would be seen : they might strive to shut their transactions iu Ireland might be considered by some ! fathers. But, in the course of the compliments so large-
ears, but these things would be heard. He wished persons as a matter of policy, and as it was probable ily and justly bestowed on our army, we never once
it to be fully understood, that he retained all his that they would come under the cognizance of the , heard mention of that word, as the spring of our ex r-
to the system upon which the Ministers Courts of Law of that kingdom, it might be thought ;lions, the word FREEDOM—to the love of which, in
had acted. He still objected to the lavish profusion advisable to abstain from all discussion of the topic ! old times, we were so much accustomed to attribute
with which our resources had been squandered, when at present ; but when the Noble Earl said that the t the bravery and courage of oar armies. It could not
they should have been husbanded for a protracted country had raised its voice from one end to the ibe contradicted, that for the last 18 years, every suc-
war, of which no one could see the end. He still other in support of the system they had pursued,lceedieg year in which the Members of that House
retained all his objections, and in their utmost force, with respect to Ireland, it did deserve the immediate met
teehc at h other in their pldaces, was
He wit af more calamd* itous
to that policy which had inflicted a blow on the one- and marked contradiction. thwh had preceded it. raihe
my that had recoiled with greater execution upon The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that he had been might even go farther back, and declare that this
our own commerce and manufactures. [Hear, very much misunderstood ; for he said that he only bad been the Case even from the *very beginning of
hear !] lie still retained his decided objections to desisted from all discussion this day, becanse there the present reign--that our calamities had been be-
that system, which united the Bank and the Go- was no Amendment ; but that he should be ready to gun from the commencement of the American war,
veroment ; [hear, hem'!], and enabled the former to meet any observation that might be made, in every and had been going on in a progressive increase for
issue base coin and depreciated paper. [Hear, hear!] part of their proceedings. But when he spoke of the nearly half a century. And, if for the last 50 years,
A system, of which the Batik alone reaped the pro- general voice of the country being with them, he al. the situation of this country had always been grow-
fit, while the guilt and dishotiour fell on the Govern- 'laded to their foreign affairs cooly, as that was the ing worse and worse—was it tfot now time te reflect
meta, and the loss on the public. [Hear, hear !] 1 part of the Noble Lord's observation that gave occa- —Must we not, at length, be convinced that there
But, above all (his Lordship continued),l still retain ' store to the remark. was something in our system that is radically
with ten-fold force, all my opinions respecting the sys- Lord Grenville and Lord Liverpool both explain- wrong ?It should be his (Sir F. Burdett's) endeavour,
tom which the Ministers have been pursuiog with re- ed ; and Earl Fitzwilliam declared his intention of this being the case, to point out td fhe- aftintiOn
gard to Ireland—(Hear, hear, hear !) upon which I freely discussing the system which had been acted on of his Royal Highness in what this fundamental error
cannot trust myself at present to utter a single sets- in Ireland. consisted. The effects of the American war, he con-
tence. Your Lordships wilt observe the manner in Lord HOLLAND rose to ask the Noble Secretary tendA, were felt, at this day, in the war in which
which this momentous subject has been passed over of State for the Foreign Department, what steps he wo woe. bbOW engaged.—lt was a war commenced ea
in the Speech and Address. No ample view is at- had taken to mediate, or whether any mediation had the very principles of the American war. A detesta-
tempted to be givee there of the state of that coup-' begun between Spain and South America ? He wasition of the principles of Liberty which had broken
try—nothing is said about the discontents of the peo- disposed to believe, that in principle he should agree! out in France, first involved us in a war with that
plc—put the situetion of the revenue—comparative. with the Noble Marquis in his views upon that sub- 1 country ; and on the same system, he was afraid, we
ly, a pitiful consideration—is alone introduced. To ject, but he wished to know what progress bad been were proceeding at the present moment. * The former
that sit.sle object, and to none eke, is our attention made on that most desirable' point. war was undertaken, as it was alleged, for the pro-
directed. But these Ministers might have known, The Marquis WELLESLEY said, that caution tection of the navigation of the Scheldt, which the
that the way even to make the revenue of a country and attention were required in the management of Dutch themselves admitted to be a miserable pretext.
Flourish, since that is the only object of their consi- that most delicate matter, more perhaps than dis- I After that crusade was finished, we now found our-
donation, is by increasing its industry—by commu- patch ; and he could assure the Noble Lord, that he selves engaged in an seemingly endless con:
ideating equal rights—and giving satisfaction to pub- felt the importance of the subject, and d made it test ; and he did not believe that any one of the per-
lic opinion.—(Hear, hear !) I have said more on his business to watch every opening to the treatment sons who defended it, could say what we were fight-
the subject than I intended—but 1 must farther cub- of it. ing for.—Not for Liberty—That was a word which
serve, that in toe present Session,' it must be decided, Lord HOLLAND rose again and said, that he never once escaped. theiri lips. Was-it for 'the in-
what
is to be the relation between Great Britain and ; should he glad to learn from the Noble Marquis what dependence of Spain ?—No. They talked indeed,
Ireland.—(Herr, hear !) The matter will bear no' his views were and what his hopes were upon this of the enemy of the Sovereign of that coml.;
more procrastination--delusion will no longer avail subject. But he had preferable except that cau- try ; but the rights of the people of Spain was
—the affair is come to
leap oint—(l/ear !) and the tion and attention were to dispatch. Ile a thing they never thought of. Those rights of
majority of the Peop of Ireland must be admitted ! knew that a Commission had been appointed. He 1 the Sovereign of Spain, however, which Gentle-
to an equal share of your privileges, or no longer ! wished to know what progress had been made, andl men might say we were now contending for,
he considered as men enjoying the advantages of Bri- : what hopes there were of a happy termination of the had been, by that Sovereign himself, resigned
tish subjects. I should not have thought myself jus- I dispute between two parties, our friends, whom it into the hands of Bonaparte, and %Sere now com-
titled in touching so slightly on this momentous to- ; ought to be our first wish to endeavour to reconcile. pletely frittered away.
tom eech, on the present
pic this day, were it not that the subject will bel Marquis WELLESLEY assured the Noble Lord occasion, the Hon. Baron st, in a peculiar de-
brought separately before your Lordships at an early , that every proper exertion u ould be made on the im- gree, consider the Speech of the Minister. So long
period—probably next week. lam glad to give this ' portaut point, which was near his heart. as there was any hope of a successful issue to the
notice to your Lordship, both for your sakes and I Lord HOLLAND said, that oh a future day, he struggle by the people of Spain, he (Sir F. Burdett)
my own : on your own account, my Lords, that you , should feel it to be his duty to call the attention of had no objection that every assistance in our power
may come to the consideration of this question with ; the House to the subject. should be rendered them. The language held in the
all that preparation which its magnitude deserves; The Address was then approved of, and ordered to Speech, however, on this subject, he did not believe;
and my own account, because it is my apology for : be presented in the usual form. no was he by any means convinced that Gentlemen
not having entered more fully Into the merits of a i The Earl of LTV ERPOI, gave notice, that he entertained those hopes which they expressed. The
subject the most important that can at present oc- . should move the Thanks of the House to Lord Minto laurels earned by our gallant soldiers, he siucerelY
may itse:attentioe of- theLinited POliernent,, ! and Sir Samuel tAuchmuty, on the conquest of rejoiced in. Their bravery hadbeen great, and the
The Earl of LIVERPOOL, however desirous of Batatiii.—Adjournen. besmear they.had thereby poschaled was proportion-
unanimity . upon such an occasion, could not con- ate; but, after ail, the victories they had achieved
sent, as the price of obtaining it, to compromise the HOUSE. OF COMMONS. were barren, and were followed by something very
expressiodof sentiments upon subjects of public po- ' like defeats. The French, notwithstanding, were
iicy. The Noble Lord had said that he maintained I still making progress, and though occasionally re-
his former opinions, without making any exception 'pulsed by the bravery of our troops, were still suc-
with respect to those which had been proved to be es- cessfut in getting fortress after fortress, into their
roneous. Upon the subject of the contest in the Ipossession.--The Original object .of the pre-
Peninsula, he was fully prepared to justify the con- sent contest, on the part of this country, the Ile.
duct of Government in the support which had been , notirable Baronet conceived to be to support the
rendered ; and he had no hesitation in saying, that ! principles of a wild despotism. Ile might be asked,
the maintaining of that contest by means of our aid, ' did the French proclaim Liberty ?—Certaitily net.
was essential to the salvation of the country.. Upon But every thing which ought to have been done to
a subject to which the Noble Lord had alluded, skid ; reconcile the people to the support of the cause for
which occupied much of their Lordships' time to- which they were called on to fight, had beeti omitted
wards the latter part of the lase Session he was on our part; and we contented ourselves with leaving
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also fully prepared to justify the measures of Go- the old system to prevail, held out no inducement to
the people, nor attempted to she* them that they had
Scrnment, which had been highly 'beneficial to the
real interests of the country. With respect to Iree any thing for which to contend. It stuck the Hon.
land, he should not now enter into a discussion ; the ' Bart. that our conduct, in regard to the Spanish na.
noble Lord having given notice that the subject was tion, afforded a wonderful contrast to our conduct in
to be brought under the consideration of the House another' . respect. In regard to the Spaniards,
next week; but whenever the affairs of Ireland were ; who were of the Roman Catholic religion, it was
brought into discussion, he should be fully prepared, ;to be observed, that e e scrupled not to regard
on the part of his colleagues and himself,* and on the I them as valuable allies, in wh tse behalf, not even
our-
part of the Noble Duke who presided in Ireland and texcepting their religion, we ought to exert
li selves to the uttermost, even a' the expnace of our
his colleagues, to justify all the measures which had 1 best blood and treasure. While we thus acted to-
been adopted. Ile thought it unnecessary to trespass
further upon their Lordships' attention at the present wards the Spaniards, was it not extraordinary that we
moment ; but he trusted the House would not be
wanting in those measures which were necessary to should omit to reconcile to ourselves those most valu-
able of all allies—the Catholics of Ireland? Was it
the support of the Government of Bus Prince- Re- Dot now highly necessary, that by Admitting them to
a participation in the rights of citlssuship, we should