The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-05-11 00:00:00

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wholly retiesid, mod he telii
sot very far 1114Wel, when' they mos.-
both Wenches et the IMMO exes...
beaches If there mot s dieueeposey In miaow_ _
Peers sad rot admitting Comonteetshit Ova Memegiellei
that had existed fur a century. le emoeloolosthe de-
clared, that he was geadi to vote foe.my MIL the Mkt
of which would 'be to rosoii bat Q am disabilities,
however istlimpotteat, nod* *Mat she
lies trimmed. t••-,
Mr. R. MARTIN sappeetoi the rill. r •
Ur. PEEL *sidle roes to retenre ilistmeeefdifill Ind
to correct aststrises in his demon teetenwite
loidijett. Sir. William Bleeksteme hod *Rea M }reel
ito the other aide, but if Sir iffijllem Sinhalese wets so
ben celled up free the deed, he (Mr. Peel) would quote
'Mint book to him to prove that Reiman Caliphs*
ought to be excluded from paces.--(Hear, bear.) This
*as a partial view of the goestioe, but it' appeated to
him to umbrae, the whole pigsties. It WOO Inapeeldbli
for him to outicipate the grenade am whisk the ream'
questioa issidht he brought forward omit peer. aeitthenn
fore be coo not relax his appesitioa to the prieelpie of
the measure merely because the whole was not at nowt
brought forward. The present measure was, pre Mohr,
a repeal of all the laws which imposed dlsrblildee epos
the Roma* Catholics. is preperdpee, therefore, ee.' it
'light be Gelealated to be successful, di/ he de
the partiality*, this .sasses.—{Hess, hear.) gllle id
not eve *Sankt this NlMPootto merely because it was per-
fiat. There were measures cometeta with the question
fur which he would have voted. He would for butane.,
have the Engliah Romeo Catholk Peers placed on the
Palk* footing with the Irish Romeo Catholic Peers. Hut
this measure he objected to. as being specific, and par.
vial in its operations, and general in its principle.--
(Hear.)—The question was, whether the Peek could pt
in Parliament without takiwi that oath which all Coos-
owners were obliged to take. If they 'tow disposed
with securities, they never meld again require them with
equal force.—(llear, bear )-If, thee. this was a Bill
which was to effect without seen:hies that for which it.
cnrities had formerly been offered, bow w Is be to learn
the ground on whirls the several osseous waste be con-
ceded with safety ?
Quo teneasit veins, faineant* Pretea mode ?
Might it net next year be said, why did yea admit six
Peers without restrictions, while yea Ann for such re-
strictions on us Commoners?—(Hear.)—in point of
fact this was a bill to relieve the Peers from the oath of
supremacy. Last year another oath of supremacy, so
enamouted were they of oaths of aupressacy,—(a laugh)
had bees engrossed with the bill of relief to Rooms Ca.
thelics ; but this year all securities were to be evaded,
By reference to the Bill of Rights, it would be found
that it formed a declaration of the Commons for ever
against such a measure as the present. file objeclio*
then was, that the Act of Elie. embracing poi ectples cos
oval with the revolution, and coexistent with all ite
visions of oar laws, imposed an oath of supreeldi
stood opposed to the present Bill. Time hoses who eel
pass in favour of the Peers • measure which they had
ttempted in a more extensive form. (The Hon.
Gentleman them alluded to the rase of Lord Stafford, and
the cry aisiost the Roseau Catioolies at that time.) It
was not upon coosideration epriori that restrictive laws
had beam passed, but from the experience of pest yams.
It was not, therefore, to henries's' sow, that because *el
sante daegers did sot exist, the same precautions were
riot necessary.—(Hear, hear, bear.)—He oppised this
question, therefore—first, bonuse it led to till sewn*
sorevere; 24, berates k was infieltely limelliteptehle
them a fall concession; 3d, because it pr4oliced the
ioemeneesimsestiom oat greeted,
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and, which had been always thought so esquirey
and, 4tbly, because it was opposed to the reverel cha-
racter and spirit of our laws. All that the home would
do by relating the present Bill, would be only delaying
the discussion of the same point, embodied in the general
measure, for four or five months. His Right Honour.
able Friend (Mr. Plankett) had promised, that at a ray
early period in the next Session be would bring the got
toeral subject fully before the homes, sad there was no
doubt it would be enforced with all his usual ability.
He (Mr. Plunkett) would tell the house, that what be
should ask Would not be admission, but an eligibility to
Afire. It would be impossible to look at this delay of
fuer months as prejudicial to the measure.—(Hear, bear;
from some members on the opposition side.)—He ander.
stood those cheers, and he assured Shoo. members that
he did not wish to state any thing unfairly ; for his own
part, he did not think that the question would be more
favourably met by the delay. In conclosios, the Right
lion. Gentleman implored the house not to sacrifice
their consistency by an adoption of this partial
not give op what be considered their duty to the Com-
mons of Englaal.—(Loud cheers from both sides of the
house.)
Mr. WILMOT explained.
The Marquess of LONDONDERNY, amidst loud
calls for Mr. Canning, offered himself to the amino,
of the House. He observed, that the principal objec-
tion to the Bill of his Right Hon. Friend seemed to be
that a partial ms was then brought forwarst,
whereas a general question was to be brought on in the
course of a few months. He was of opinion that the
objection ought to have no effect, and that opinion he
could trace in the deliberations of the House, and what
passed between individual and individual. He thought
the general question would have a better chance of sec.
rest by the passing of this portion of it, and by giving
time to the public mind to settle itself to acquiesce in it.
He believed delay more favourable to that general mea-
sure, and much better than to agitate it year after year.
Bet that being his opinion as to the general question,
lie was prepared still to give this partial measure his
utmost support.—(Hear, hear.)—He would contend that
the Constitution in Church and State, could not suffer
by passing this Bill. With respect to securities, the
want of which in that Bill afforded another handle lee
objection, be always thought opOi 4osooloito is Ilse
Catholics could with safety to *sit religion give, se-
ceasary. He held the saute opinion still on the question
of securities, but he would modify them so as to suit the
feelings of the Catholics. He did not, however, see'
what securities could be required for the passing of the
present Bill. Would an oath of Supremacy reconcile
his Right lien. Friend (Mr. Peel) ? If it would, he be-
lieved no dilfsculty would lie in the way, fur very few
Catholics of this day wool' object to tlsat.—(llesr,
bear.) Ile believed the Catholics would go as far as
any others iii upholding the Constitution. His Right
lion. Friend (31r. Peel) objected to the measure on the
around that the general measure Was not brought for-
ward. lint when the g r was brought fur-
-1 ward t when it passed that house, and was sent op to
the lions. of Lords it did nut succeed. It was therefore
but right to try how far a partial repeal of those dis-
ebbing laws would suit their Lordships' taste. Under
all the circutiistances of the case he WAS ready to vote
for the Bill of his Right lion. Friend.
Mr. CANNING would regret if any thing which he
staled in reply to his Right honourable Friend, the Se-
crerary for the Home Department, should have the ap-
pearance of personal application ; for as his lion. Friend
had islet the question, at least with fairness ; be had
no desire/ Seine towards him language which had even
the shadow of impropriety; but wlsieb he assured the'
honourable geetleuien who had declared theta/dyes in
111forlaitine to this measure, that he was actuated by no
perSoo.ll motivetonarde them ;• he mast say, that from.

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c pars d-his asigeseet spoil the pia, that the Ca-
theile *dist hail mss the hostourahle sakes of the army
apse M MA, but Wu degraded sod enslaved. Now,
would IS hs beliovod thus siege thee that very pellet bad
here sotseaded by the Osseo of Lords; be that house
Wish Well along rejeedollibe proposals fir the eosin-
drams et the Catholics ? Yos—tito offices of the army
att~.ary Itert opened to the Catholic soldier by the
Naar of &old*. sad sent down to be ratified by that
house. believer, from the fate which the mea-
sure had wet with la that house on foregoer occasions
(sad be siditht rot mention whet had taken place in that
he... If it bel as. been well hareem to the public), it
was to be proessued that the measure, if sent down
to It la Itaegteaslve and general form, would hare met with
Hot moo tato to which it bad formerly bees subjected, and
therefore he had proposed this measure in order to see what
Were tlie feelings of the public, and what ought to be the
form Is witieb tbe general measure could be brought forward
with tbe greatest probability of sit 7M/. Ile had heard of
ao grimed of justice epos whkh his motion could he oppos-
ed: mewl before that of expediency could he setup. he should
whit,- to see lease proper rotted of expediency proposed.—
Ile woo aware that the Bill which had virtually granted to
the catholies that pullet. which was once considered as thdr
Enure ferteearar, had been intredured into a Bill, where
from the title It nosh' not hail been expected t and herniae!
hospe letcesleetelhis aseesore la • visitor way ; bet he •lied
to state. In a fair and meaty way, what ha really wishes, to
do. Ile timeitht It would be strange If those who had al-
lowed Catholics to hold the highest situation lu the •rmy—
theme of thstammeder-le-Clitef. or of a 'favourite General,

who would at all times be allowed swam to the oar of the
Sovereign. and who might directly use their influence there,
should hesitate In admitting Catholics to that Assembly,
which formed the onlY proper and salutary check and re-
sistemee to Site ambition of too powerful a subject. Not one
bed said a word as to die jaMice of opposing his proposi-
tion. They could not refer to the :vaunt of 187 S—the fear of
a Popish successor to the trews ; they could not contend
that any real danger woadd, In any way whatever, result to i
the country or the cornet itstisse ; they could not, even la any re-'
sootecorner of history, produce • scantling of argument spar
whiehjohnildtbeir opposition. Ile would not sat them for at
[lna—Le Would notderosad of them any thinewhielt would
reallydevieleete to the Conetitelion, but surely, Wore they
I could venters to negatives proposal which in vol wed sealnita
good, they were called upon *astute/ 'bath contained elltm
at least some portion of evil. He had been accusedorstehts
cogent arguments; but he thought that some argument
more cogent than any whirl:load been adduced againei
his proposal should be brought forward defers any op-
position were made to the measure itself. He did net
object to the Catholics giving sororities, sad to ouch se-,
entitle, ha did not suppose that they themselves would,
object. He wished not to sophisticate any part of the
matter, bet he wished to put the matter in a plain and
simple manner. The little that he proposed to do was
complained of, but the Congress of Vienna had by a
single stroke of the pen put an end to political conten-,
bodes the ground of •roligions differences. In two'
veers after they had failed to persuade the house of
Lords to agree with them be their view of the Catholic
Question, the Crown of England had sanctioned an agr
rangement of equal privilege with reap, cc to Catholics,
which extended its infleeoce over 30 millions of people.
the Crown of Hanover was Included In Ole, iodise was
eredlisly Informed, that the President of the Chamber of''
Hanover woe sow a Catholic. Was this country, which
'baste* who toschod boas** fro*, to be the only one
is lb. world where religions differences .were visited
"rairrgjaWabilttita t.-flat they werees huer-4.- elm
habit of swearing at the '['able ins form which exhibited
religion, not so much a matter of faith as of negation,that
it wee not surprising they should feel proud Of ghat was
is obality disgraceful to them. With such instances as
he had montioned befogs their eyes, would they
wows 'competing their minds to find oat imaginary
dangers ? Prom the time of the Reformation down to
that of Charles the Secon4, there was a struggle be-
tween the two contending religions; and from Charles
the Second down to the Revolution, the dread of Popish
telecoms sod a Popish succession; but was there any dan-
ger at the pennant moment analogous to these 1 Our SUMS-
ton were ak: . quoted, but misrepresented, when their au-
thority was a led to In favour of the continuance of these
laws. The a were made under circumstances of terror
and beeline! was there no dllcrenee between the hoar
of bostilitA'alpd the hoer of peace—between the hour its
which we *at engaged with our antagonists and that in
which they 11y prostrate at our feet? in the periods of
which he luntopetten the Protestant and Catholic were com-
batting for the soil—they were contending to see whoshould
wed the Statwand make it their own ; but now the Protest-
ants were senre In power, the struggle was at an end, sad it
was unbecoming to argue In the spirit of conflict on a ques-
tion of peat* Ile called upon the }loose to acksowledgo
that concessien which would restore the integrity, of tip
Peerage. It s a high praise to those distinguished pllll%Olll
sa to y, that Mere
was not in their whole body ap indivi-
dualn-testa of disaffection to the State; but they were
Fat to suppose that they could go on from generation
to generatoon fixed in shame without degenerating in
virtue. In admitting the Catholics access to the King s
person, they bad done enough to shew that there was so
danger, but not enough to shew that they were willing
to make atonement. The honourable gentleman con-
cluded an Aroma speech, which we regret that our
limits havererented us from giving at length, by ob-
serving, that if the house should refuse to accede to the
usotioo, they would be guilty of an actof arbitrary power,
which, when they inflicted penalties upon the Catholics,
they affected to proscribe—(hear, Lear !).
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The house then divided—Ayes 235—Noes 223—Majo-
rity in favour of Mr. Canning 's Bill. 12.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the house adjourned at twelve o'clock.

Though green peas, French beans, strawberries
and raspberries are still rather dear, some other arti-
cies of subsistence are cheap enough. Good bacon is
sow to be bought in London at 4.1. per pound, and
rip are 26 for a shilling.
We understand that in consequence of the reduc-
tion is the price of Malt, Mr. CHA P:JAN. of the Bag-
nigge Wells Brewery has determined to make his Ale,
Table Ale, and Table Steer of such superior quality as
is ill enable him to defy all competition. When we con-
sider the importance to families of possessing a beverage
free from the noxious ingredients usually employed in
the composition of that nee sssss y article, we cannot
be surprised at the extensive patronage he so descry
edly enjoys. Such patronage we hope will always
he given to meritorious individuals who prefer a sm ill
profit and fair name to the risk of destroying the health
of their fellow-creatures by a-wicket' and unfeeling cu-
pidity. To satisfy the t fastidious as to the genuine
uess of his articles, Mr. eIIAP3I.IN wakes half-yearly the
following affidavit.
" RICHARM CHAPMAN. or Barone Wells Brewery, Ale,
Table Ale, end Table Beer Brewer, maketli oath and saith
that his ,A le, Table Ale. am! Table Beer, are breWed from
Malt and tte ps only, sad that. he sever lass. nor ever will
permit or suffer any drugs or outer injurietet ingredients to
be used In his brewery. .• R. CHAPMAN.
Sworn atthe allaasioi-Aouse la the tit!. of Loncluit,
Sarah 23, IStS, before ins, &homey, Mayor."
N.B. Orders executed fot,Beady Mousy.—All letters
mast be post-paid, or not received.

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