The Statesman.
London, England, 1815-02-22 00:00:00

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Etentinck; in 'Mart+,•lB'4; and of the insttdcttises
to the Italians, prisoners of, war hi this country at
that period. His object in moving for the three last
Papers *as, to show that Government bad not only
guaranteed the people of Genoa from the attempts of
the Fretich,•but from. all the world beside. [The
lionont'able ilenser satliaten amidst loud cheers on
both sides of lite Noose.]
The question beiog put,
Col. .WOOD said, being nearly connected.witb
the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) who had been tlluded
to in the Speech of the Hon. Gentleman, he begged
the indulgence of the House.for a few moments. He
then proceeded to argue on the unfairness Of discuss:.
big the question whltlr had been brought under their
consideration until the arrival of the Noble Lord.—
ft was, in fact, not an isolated point, but one con-
nected with the whole of the proceedings of Congress.
He concluded by moving—" That the House do pro-
ceed to the other Orders of the Day."

The CHANCELLOR of thee KRCHEQUER
said, the Hon:Mower had, in a very regular, manly,
and Parliamentary manlier, called for the tlec6idn
of the Rouse on this important suhjeCt, therefore
no apology was necessary. All he retluired was,
that the House should take into its consideration
thohe circumstvnens which rendered it quite iMpossi.
*le that tliry could come to a decisivin rf the ptesont
moment. The question was connhctrd with a variety
of points, which could not now 'he discussed ; and,
however. anxious Ministers were to prove that the
national faith had not been violated, 'they could not,
in the present state of things, enter into an invest'•
gation of the question. 'That the national faith had
here violated, he denied—and oh that denlol'he
would rest at present. lie thought it wiled be'mere
respectful to meet the motion, which would certainly
be dis Cussed it a • future period, with the previous.
question—a hirlt (Colonel Wood having Withdrawn
his amendment) the Right Hon. Gent. proceeded to
mniP.

Sir JAMES 'MACKINTOSH rose, and Cora.
manned by praising the talents. of Mr. tambton,
who in thii,..his second speech, had sustained' his he-
reilitery reputation. There never was •a case that;
more loudly called upon Parliament to :rescue tile'
honour of the country from the foulest tispersiints;:.:-!
The moth, in which the motion was resisted confirined
his i•pirtions. Ministeri said no more than other
men said when they were chareed with the •commis-
lion of an io.proper and usriuctiaable deed : they :
asked for delay. They wanted to put off their trial,
for reasons which they did not explain, and which
were best or only known to themselves. Like other i
accused persons, they said they were quite anxious
to clear up the doubts that hung over their conduct,
All they could propose in favour of delay, aroseinet
of the confusion of two distinct prindples.
might be a fair erquest, if the rioestion were merely
as to the policy 01 impoliry, the. wisdom or folly, of
the annotation of Genoa to IsiNimont. A questio.i
of Policy ear generally if net ale ays a balance of
evi 1. and a compromise of, inconveniences. A
thousand questions might arise on a question of po-
liey which might make a discussion ineonvenient till
the negoeialithis. were terminated. The charts was
not for an impolitic act, though te thought the act
li•Ci,iltPir irn%rntitir.
.That point swek-irtto complete
ith.ieeilicatce berthr a• question that related. to the
pripci*,4•••: of etepisl justice, and to the hitherto un-:
srolit4,,l honour of England, comyared to which we
0r,..;.,1 to look at all local and temporary matters as -
trivial. The present charge was the most severe one
ever made on our conduct in our foreign relations.—
A more serious one could not be preferred against
our Government, except it were for a conspiracy .
against the liberties of oer•olfn country. We had fop-,
come parries to this injury hillitted en an okoffend-:
itig peeple, which would have been stillan injury end.
injustice even though no pledge..nor 'prospect had •
been:held out by us to the Okeis-e. .Ano.ther great .
chaVe. wet the inlikiug Forglanrl the instrument by 1
w filtrhis.act was performed. We appeared guilty
of injtlitice and perfidy. • Unless SOrnelltivg could fin
stated which he did not expect, he must condemn that •
riglaitation of the circumstances• by which ne bad
lent the aid of our counteitairce end ntime to k systeM
of spotiation Commencing in the division o 1 Praised,.
afterWartis tided upon to so dreadful 'an ereent .by.
France, and which seemed now only to change its
seat withotit changing its nature.—[Near!]—What
secret could there be respecting the defence of Mi.-
!deers, when the pledge given was a public act, and
the infraction was equally well known ? The pro- .
demotions were public, arid public faith dela:hided on I
no secret. • Was there any ground of interest to be I
set up against' the principles of justice end morality. ?
If Ministers chose to propose amendments, he had no
doubt that the Honourable Mores would accede to
them, provided he could obtain the production of the
drier public decumenti. There was a substantive
c(sarge ageinsst Ministers independent of all considera- •
titer' hf pledges, for injustice to the state of Genoa. •
In the case of Norway, none who disliked that pro.
ceedikt, except those whir were staves of fortune,
coulf! have a Itered Weir oiled. by the event. lie then
proceeded to read an extract from Vhttel, whom he
cowiiitered high authority, on the subject of third
partici, who having been subjugatde by one power,
acre not its that author's ()pinkie, if that subjugating
II power was by the events of riarsuppressed or hum.
bleil, they not haying taken arms against the '
success-
.
ful to be treated as eninpiered peopie. V attel said,
they were not to. be made to change their .masters,
' but their deliverers, " ought to break their cheitis."
It was not to be imagined that the territory of a
friend wrested from the power of the.enerny was just
as disposable as any conquest made from the enemy.
At all times such an exercise of the rights of conquest
would have been considered immoral-, •and an utik.4l
abuie of power. Suppose that we had .no alliance
with Portugal; and that- toiletry; bad not done:so
much for its own deliverancir; bat had been saved
merely by the British arms, would any body suppose
that on that account we had a right to sell 'Portugal
to the highest bidder ? Was it supposed io in•the ease
of Holland, or of the Princes of the Coofederation of
the Rhine? The German Princes that had heti.' op.
pressed try France were conceived to !tato-been inv.-It-.
ly entitled to, a'restitetiner of their territories. The.
righti of Genoa to its independence had been 'recbg-
nixed by the Allied Powers' in the' most distinct Mott..
nor. In the' incinth of September; 1865,' the Xtis-
'Han Government publisliedan Oilfield note, by elder
they declared the incorporation of Genoa with Fraitce

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tosastatl
,
tO ite . substantive-cause of SO *Rite-het •poiveri- es
being a violation:of all theta*, of-nations.' In the
month'of July, in-the same year, the Russian Mini-
ster Novot;ltzoff published ad official nbte, Plink
that this act of• France made it impossible for Vim to
remain longer at Paris. This note was after the id-
corporation of Piedmont and Lombardy, afteetke
invasion of Switterlandender the pretence of Media-
lion, and after the deaths of the-Duke D'Hrighten,
General 'Picheero, and Towssaint. 'Aitet till these
acts, Great BriPtin was ready to netbilate with
-France, end even solicited Russia 'td takeithe•pan of
mediator. After the incorporation, 'however,' df
Genoa, those powers thought it impossible any longer
to keep terms with France. - In- what sense*ete the
Genoese to understand the treaty of Chaumont, that
guaranteed the independence of all the EUrOprirri
tioni Would it wow be said that this 'lichen eipob-
lic, which had flourished for 'nine hundred yettr;,
was 'not "new to be considered as -I mike,
During the negociation at Amiens, this coeistifre.
fused to acknowledge the Ligurian Republic, 'unleis
the old Cdnstltution was restored. Altera!l these
solemn documents, in which- ill the great Allied
PoWers professed the strongest ,wish for'the
dente of Genoa, with 'what feelings must fret Elie
Genoese hive received the Britiih troops, and 'what
confidence must • they -not have reposed in this
professions of the Allier?-ir appeered• by 'loin'
William Bentinck's Proclamation, 'that •he Con.
stoned the Treaty of Chaumont in the saineitnifit:;
ner"that . the Gentle* aud• every 'body else; 'coo:
strued it. The King of -Sardinia, in his. Prodania:
lion said, that helot* possession " "In tonferMitk
with the Wishes of the principil Powers in EtirtiSe."-.
This Wasi Dew and most alarMing title to set up:l4'
It was the same-.principle which led to the *pitraffifi
of Polend,lind upon which • a few .Sovereigns rid 4
took upors themselves to dispose •ortir the-teelifot
ties in Btrope. They had no' more eight:et) dispini4
of Genoa than they had to dispose' of the tunny or
Middlesex.' If the proceedings .of the Congress 'St
Vienna were now it ten end, he should' not-see ant
great mischief-in delaying this question -'a littlU
longer: butio the inhaler they were going on, it
• became necessary fortlie House towspiesslhe 'pub.
tic irrdignatian, and 'endeavOor 'to arrest the tare rein
of iniquity. When he last %kited. the Clintiiield he
was proud of the Praises that he every Where hearit
bestoived upon • England. •He knew Iso that tali,
sentiments delivered by the Minority of that 'flousisi•
' although they were despised by Ministers, were net
despised by Enfope ; but were considered as ipetatu:
ing the sense of almost all 'honest • men in Europe.—'
He thought that he' made out a suffieletit case 10 call
upon Ministers for a reply ;•-and he could not see
how any document that was catfed for could elpOse
any secrets of the Congress at Vienna. •
• Mr. W. POLE thought that had any -doubts hetkit•
entertained as to the objnt of the present' tdotion;.
they must have been removed by what had fatten
from the last Speaker. The I...artted Gentleman had
called for a decision'on the conduct of the Congress;
without having a single docutfient, and sWayu-il merely
fiy his own conjecture: 'His speech had designated
the Congress in very opprolitiotis terFnv; odd-Ire frPf:'
accused Minister's of beieg-guitty 'of a t'riate nest in.'
nongtibu,le to that of a convoiracy amid-fist' theirceitti::
try. When all I he- doclitneots• should. he laid beffire;
the House, it would- be uttetlylinpossibie"fnr. the'
House to think tharthepuhlfd 'Nth ka'd' Web vin ti:
ed, either with Genoa, or with -inyothee prep
The motion' might be'a good party utanseivre,
Ministers must -not be.guilty-of a' dereliction oft dote:
The -Learned Gentiensatt:begited the quilettott; by
considering the Proclamation melt sicei.rf theVoverit.
mint.. As his Noble Friend Was eettainii- on his re.:•
turn; he only called opansttie Gentlemen opposite to'
eterciser a • little-at thitt4virtutt 'of patter* SehiCts"
they had treen,in thrfalit OVbitilting lilbs end
friends-. almost wilnY tlay.exerase.2---L4 lititgA
.that case they shoold-bite- alt the itgollitlifloit Keyr
wanted, 'not only about Gehott,' VA. abOatViitoliy:-.
and' Poland. 116 had heed tidiittled• 4614104 that
till the- Members of•Gclverfiment Were reSpingible
the acts of tiny one of their body, and -the Nold!t.
Lordibovever pre-etninebt,ltati acted 4fiellf iii coo
fortuity with -the opinion of his' etillegdes.
speech of the Learned Gentleman had sheWn the im-
possibility of-not blending the policy 'of the qnestiori
with considerations of; justice. He Auld also Said;
that Ministers conceited Ihtie conduct 'tit demand
entiniry ; -this he denied, and there was no ilttle'of
et idencel*peove the charge.
Sir J.' MACKINTOSH explained. • •
• Mr. WHITBREAD said, thit hb could not yiclit
to the entreaty of the relation of the Nettle- Lord
(Lord Caitlereagh); not to discuss this subject itt lila '
absence. lie thanked him, however, for doing him
the justice to bolieve_that he should much rither see
the Noble Lord in his"plare, than appear to call for
any discussion in which his conduct was imelit:ated,;
•iii his absence. However highly he felt obliged` to,
the Ilan. Centlenta'n {Colonel Wood) (Ur what he,
had said of his character in other reSpects, yet he
could not consent to *sic4ifice ttliother 13 at or his clua..
tocter, which was Still clearer to him, and.titt!i wasliiirresolution to Make those remarks that appearei
to him tteCessaiy, at the time that he itidged tlie 'most
proper for making them: He *as notsaltriined at all
at the lion. Gentleman who spokelast,
thellousethet What he said would be found (at some
time or another) eut(itled to great weight. lie haft -
heard similar assertions from the ItightHon. Ge.ntle-
man L'fore, without having yet di.covereil the weight
of them. ' The Right Mt; Gentleman, in his cop:
meats epee the olAervtitious that had been" made, bac(
introduce? %fads' that never were rifOre mi applied"
He halt slit; thdt his Hod. Frienes hail troceedeti
entirely but ecritjectuires or their 0 hd
all'eonjeeture ?--DI,I he mean te.denfrre prertama,
Oohs er f:drit NV: frn'ittek. and of Gen. D'iliymple,
silitch 'were so generally pUblishel '; or 'Wetild heKaY
h
that these•zpibClamitions'amourd 'only to a fou7.
jecturtf kapp,:.ll-ed'to.l4l.n tlyit't those proctarnlti
.nst,
published` to all AP world,• were of much ;greater •
weklittlian tisbee'reports'wilich the trousi.hid heal
of, dr tilnif thine ;opiate letters from Lord` Cestier
risgh Olds friends in the North of Irelistol, slating
tfeep sense of the heavy responsibility attached, to
du, clelicale' sit uatlcerin which he had • been p(ait.tiliir
his Colleatic.ues. It wis certain that the acts ofLord
CXstlereatitt. most'
considered as' the ids of the
Governutent ; and yet' there were' some tninor papers
from the frontiers of Austria) which stated
,that Lord