The Statesman.
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n by sentencing to the gibbet, and to be drawn and
tp:srterrr!, those who should gelid a bushel of pots-
,l to the 117,1b1ie5.... of France, who were then
c,nri:;ht so b.. siaoiag stutn, though they wen),
now in a coirrlition to help us with provisions. This'
e.ti'var.e they r.intle High Treason. lie would help
the Meeting a few other proceedings of that period.
[Here the Meeting was for some time interrupted in
consetOence of a motion for adjourning to a wider
spice, on account of a number of people who it was
avid could not get in, which motion *sea over-ruled.
The next Act, said Mr. C. which passed, he would
niention to them; it was an Act to sospeud• in effect
Ilaheas Ccrpus Act..
The flinuttintatrr did not see what the habeas
Chrpus Act had to do with a dicussion on the subject
of (he Proprety Tax. • r
111 r. Cou'orrc void he would occupy less of their
attention than the Gentleman whu bad been allowed
to.speak at such length:

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Mr. Iluee obsersed, that Mr. Cobbett sues In in
order. Ile was about to show the origin of the di!- it became them as Englishmen to Couch themselvet
Went War Times. terms of respect. It had been said that when this
Mr. Cesevrt said he would ennfine himself to no- Act was first passed that it had not undergone a
tieing generally the Acts passed between 1793 and I scrupulous enquiry. This Was an assertion, the
17n, when the Income Tax 'was first proposed. ;truth of which he could deny. When it was first
The Gentleman who preceded him had attempted to I brought forward be was but a boy, yet it had not
show the caws of the Property Tax Act. He ' escaped his recollection, and he was sumo it had not
would also proceed to show what he considered to escaped the recollection of many about him, that no
be the causes—lie• would proceed, however, more , tax which bad ever been produced had undergone
enormity no* than before. ''The point for their con- greater scrutiny—bad elicited greater execration. It
sideration was net merely %Olathe?. the Property Tax, 1 had (as had that day been the case) been pronounced
or the Malt Tax,* or any other Tar was to be re- inquisitorial, oppressive, and in every sense of -the
pealed—it was the principle which they were at war word objectionable ; and he could not forget that
with. Now here was a Tax which had been Mr. Tierney had described it as so unjust and so in-
borne for 20 years with very little interruption, l consistent with the principles of the British Consti-
few meetings called to oppose it, and with few Cation, that the people would be justified in taking
remonstrances against it—and why? the enemy up aims to resist its collection. Loud applause.]
were never at our door—they never dared to All this had been said, and much more ; and all the
come near us—it was a false alarm—a mere pre- evils which n ere now admitted to be the result of
text—the people of England were always able the tax was then foretold. [Applause.] But what
to defend their country, and always willing' to do so I was the conduct of the Gentlemen who were then
—it was a pretext to take from the people their opposed to the Ministry, when they became them-
Money, and then by means of it to enslave them.— selves the Ministers ? Surely it was not incorrect
11.,tweeti 1793 and 1798, divers Acts were passed in to ask this, question—Why they deliberately raised
direct violation of the principles of the Constitution, this dreadful Tax, as they had previously pronounced
as many as ten in all, for the purpose of depriving it, from 6+ to 10 per cent.
the people of their liberties and the privilege of free Mr. PORTALL submitted to the Sheriff that these
eiscossion. They began first by gagging the people observations were not relative to the object for
-=then they bound them—and finally they plundered . which the Meeting had been convened.
then,. This tax had lasted 20 years, and yet the I Mr. COBBETT said it was fully relevant, being
people of Hampshire had not only let it go on for 20 , connected with the history of the Tax.
frars, bat they had done more, they had elected I Mr. HUNT observed, that if at this Meeting one
and re-elected those persons who first proposed; and party was to -be heard, and the other was not, he.
Who afterwards supported the Tax, and they were would sit down.
now electing those who, if they did not support the The Ilion Sumer considered the observations ef
tax now, supported it formerly. Mr. Hunt perfectly relevant. [Applause.]
- Mr. PORTAGE wished to impress upon Mr. Cobbett, Mr. Hume
.said he never had, nor ever would in-
dict the question they were now considering,- was, terrupt an Englishman in a great national eieembly
whether the Petition which had been read, wet to be.: like the present—and he trusted he might claim a si-
the Petition of the Meeting. miler indulgence. If he could not he subdued by
Mr..Coaam said, he was proceeding to answer argument, he hoped it would not be attemitted to
that. Ile wished to show them that their Petition subdue him by clamour and cries of out of order.—
whipped short. [Applause.]—He did not consider this a party ques-
• Mr. Posmst.t. observed, that if at a Meeting of j teen—he was neither the slave of one party, nor the
*lsis kind, Gentlemen were to be allowed• to travel ! tool of another. He came for Ward as an English-
out of alt form, they could never come -to a coo- I man, to perform a constitutional duty, and nothing
elusion. I should deter him from delivering the honest senti-
- Mr. Coeserr expressed himself willing to• abide metes of his heart.—[Applause.]--e.lt was necessary.
by the decision of the Sheriff. to prove to the Meeting that this tax-had been ap--
The HIGH SHERIFF said, they were not called to. proved by one party more than another, bat bad
get her to cenrass the conduct of those Members who i beet • defended by its original- opponents, with an
had either proposed the tax or supported it, but to ardour not to be exceeded by its authors, and had
consider whether or not they were now come to the' been by them imposed hpon the people in a most in.
point, when the Tax ought to be abandoned.. suiting and degrading way. It had been his fortune
. Mr. Couttere observed, that the . Gentlemen who to be entrusted with the. Requisition, which, with
spoke before bud done more than this; for he bad ' the indulgence of the Sheriff, had been read second
canvassed the conduct of Ministers it proposing_ to ! that day. It was signed by 52 or 53 persons. • While
continue it. !adverting to this, h could not help alluding to a
Mr. HUNT begged leave to submit to the Meeting ruse de guerre, or trick, which had been played off
that the Gentlemen on the other side hid been per. ! by the Gentlemen on 'the other side of the Court.
milted to say every thing. The HIGH SHERIFF denied that any thing like a
Mr. PORTALL asked if he bad said onewerd which trick had been countenanced by him.
was irrelevant ? Any Gentleman might speak as I Mr. HUNT said, he made no allusion whatever to
long as he pleased, provided he confined himself to ! the conduct of the Sheriff, who, he felt it his duty
the business of the Meeting, bee the moment he wan- to state, had acted in the most impartial manner ;
derail from it he ought to be stopped. I but it was incumbent on him to state, that as in the
Mr. Coaster proceeded.—When men complained ; case of Mr. Gladstone, of Liverpool, a letter had
.of any evil, was it not reasonable fur them to en. been circulated in the county. The Requisition
.quire into the causes of it ; and when they proceeded which he had the honour of requiring to be read,
to remove the evil, was it not advisable to remove was signed the last day of the last year ; and it was
also the cause. The Gentlemen who brought fora' not till this had lain at the George Inn, for several
ward the Petition had acted disingenuously; they days, that the second Requisition was prepared and
had said nothing of the difficulties of the Government. ' published. This after the whole county were a were
Did they mean to my, that the Government could that a Petition had been prepared against the War
,ge on without the Property Tax? Did they wish to 'faxes generally—and he would appeal to the impar.
substitute any other 141 ? [cries of we hare nothing tiality of the Sheriff to say, whether they were not
to do with that, and order.] Ile would ask them now met to take into consideration the expediency
if they were ready to vote that the army should be of opposing the War Taxes altogether ?
disbanded? I The titan SHERIFF said, they were to consider
The 1110 U SHERIFF said, he must take the sense of the Property Tax and Malt Tax alone.
the Meeting, whether Mr. Cubbett should be allowed • Mr. HUNT said, since this was the case, he must
.to go solo this:manner ? confine himself to the admitted purposes of the Meet-
r. Cenuerr said, be was. ready to slow that. Go. :big. With regard to the Malt Tax, he considered it
verument could not go on without this Tax. Liif not less importance to this county than the Pro-
, Mr. PoaTne nth), they had nothing to do with perty Tax. *This was a barley county, and therefore
that at present. • . peculiarly oppressed by the Malt Duty. When was
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Mr. Com:err meid, they could not show Mm that it, he would ask, where this tax had its origin? It
:Government could go on without this tat. It was, was after the first suspension of the Income Tax,
therefore, from the factiousness of party ahat-the which, on being tried by Mr. Pitt, was found not to
• .question was hrought forward. It was the trick of succeed. ft was then that. a duty of 2s. was placed!
• a party to impose ypon the people, by telling the upon malt as a substitute for the tax which had
that theeemere to get this tax, off.; but they could failed ; and hence an impression had been made
not get it off without. havill another, equal in which was not only oppressive to the labourer, bat
amount, substituted for it.—[Greet of this is nothing to the farmer, and every perm who possessed pro-
to the purpose.] perty in the county. He. would illustrate this by
The Alen S*ILRIFP said, he was anxious to hear' stating how the case stood. An acre of barley in
, Mr. Cobbett ett long as he spoke in reason, but he Hants produced five quarters, upon which a taz.was
was not doing so at present. i imposed of 4s. Od. or 10d. per bushel, and this, with
Mr. Conan.: said, he was ready with another Pe- . the increase produced forty shillings eer quarter, or
• tilion, which, he wished to more in the room of that `ten pounds foe the malt produced by one acre :if
which bad beau reed. land. The brewer divided this into fOur parts, from
The lltcm Stream signified that he might moveenl. whence he brewed twenty barrels of beer, which, at
Amendrepnt to the first Petition. - I a duty of 10s. per barrel, produced 201. more per
•Par.,Cossert theta laid, that he would move that acre, being 201. for every acre of barley in the county.
all that Petition should be-left ont—[Laugh]—and —[..ipplause.]—To this was to be added the brew.
„that another, whiels„ ;tit had no other merit, was er's profit, and the pUblican's profit, amounting ale'
•st'rleattt much shorter, should be adopted in its steed.' together to mere than the fee-simple of the land.-ee'
..C. then proceeded to read over his Petition.— [Applause]—This tax, in fact, produced 4d. oat of
ile'ronclucled by moving that this Petition should be every pot of beer,for which dd.vras:paid.—[Applause.]
.adopted as a substitute to the brief which had tuesa —Before he sat down,Jie would advert-to one or two
vat Tod, circumstances connected! with the subject before them.l
you to second the motion. He denial He had seen a ietter *from Lord Liverpool to htri
possible • for the Meeting to compeehmid 'Hart Davis, oats of lb-Members for Bristol, stating
-.As (siert, end, and aim of the first Petition. TWA that it was i4ottsibte for Government to continue

• . , SOUTHWARK DINNER.
"'VHF: FRIENDi of PA ILLIAM EN'CARY RE.
-IL FORM -and PURITY of ELECTION', will dine to-
twitter at Cumberland Gardens, yaws oa Friday, Jan. 47,
11115.
-Mr. JOHN GILLI ES, In the Chair.
W. J. Biestaitqq. has accepted nn invitation to the pincer,
sail will tie a anted by Isis brother, Sir Francis B n oyde.
TieltgliN Ss. me to be had of Mr. Gillies, Imo!.
Mink M ; r. Hemet. 446, Tooter street ;M r. Hitchcock, Tooley-
street ; Mr. Wallis, 17, Borough High-street t Mr. Ault,
Kent-madTtst the' Half. Moon bun. Borough; of S. Brooks,
EIRE Strand; Mr. Miller, Ulmer-street ; and at the liar of
the Tara's.-

Dinner on Table at roar &Clark.

AT a numerous and respectable MEETING of
the INDEPENDENT ELECTORS of the BOROUGH
of SOUTHWARK, Friends 'to PURITY of ELELTION,
held at the half Moon Inn, in the Borough of Southwark, on
Monday, the 23d of Janiviry, 1S15;
' Mr. H. lIIRSEE, in the Chair.
It was Resolved, Thole consequence of the present vacancy
in the Representation of this Borough, it becomes the duty nt
the Electors to choose a person who will support their rights;
and that he should be a declared ads orate for Purity of hlec•
lion nod Parliamentary Reform, bps-nose upon the adoption of
these Principles depend the Salvation of Ilse Country.
That In the opinion this Meeting, W. J. BURDETT, Esq.
hosing, upon all occasions, declared himself to possess these
sent Utica's, is a lit apd proper person to represent this Borough
in Parliament. • . .

That agreeable to these principles we wal exert eurselv-s to
proenre his retain as a Member of this Borough, in opposition
in Cowl Corniption and Mini-terinl Dependence, free firma
every sacrifice and expecce to himself.
That for t hi. purpose a Committee be now appointed, con-
tistin4 of twelve, with power to ud4 to their number,' and that
a Subscription be entered into to elrflay the espences frt this
Eletitons which Subscription was arcordiimly entered into,
Had Mr. J. Dillies, Free-e:hool—tw et, St .Jotm's, he appointed
Trehsnrer,
11 whom Suhseeptiiien are reVeile mid Hit the
Bar of the Half-Main Inn, aungb, wit tbe Committee
'meet daily.
That these ftesolotioas adverti.ed in. the frIMEI, Maraing
Chrtsoleht, Morning Advertiperi nod Statesman Newspapers.
That the Tomas o 7 tnis Pketing be giect: to the Chairman,
for his upright sod impartial eantloct lithe (flair.

NEXT FRIDAY WILL nr. THE, SECOND DAY Dr
ITRAWING. %YUEN THE FIRST TICKET DRAWN
A PRIZE, AROVE £•26, WILL RF:CEIVIiO2.I,OOO.-
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• Affairs in'italy still we2r a very unsettled agOsot.
Prince Msrraantca (ribs Austrian

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Pandora's box is not yet opened ; hut we know I said, is going to Ititiy up:6114 trghly Important Hs-
its contents. We have advises from Vienna to the sion.- It doubtless relates :to King. Mu ti' lc.
12th instant--,-up to the period said to have been fixed spectiog • whose iisperesi 0,14-Uncertainty Stilliple,
by Lord Casmaries.cit for an:unequivocal declare. vaits; though
...i letter'fion't Natles esserti that
tion of the designs of the illustrious parties at the Englund his guaranteed to him his present. demi-
.Congress in regard to the Chief. objects in dispute. nions, and the island of Sicily to King Feanpqrro.
Theadtices, however, Which areboth public and --We give a copy ol General liacetssAtesiloptliet so
istivate, communicate nothing decisive; nor can we kicaay. Jtris very guarded and carefulin,poijit lif
joilljepect them to furnish much of this description,' exprecsiun ; -but his offencein resisting the titypi
,isii;illeugh they are to the 12th, theintelligence can -hk military superior will supply sufficient gr"'
only be of the date of the 11th, the day. the ultimo-. accusatiley. ExcFr.m.ipts ip gnne to '
turns were, according to repeal to be given in. The: T repli Papers arc full of derails
Vienna Press does not seen' to enjoy Much libedy• .9,>,. 1 4,44, remains of Louis x.yi;.
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courage, or information; 'we have, coireinnentlr, aid,dis roepirikon folk thele.veurtal
little to be relied on through that channel. In fact; Cisnetry of St. Doi', A • ak.ibtiiiii

It • a party to impose ypan the people, by telling them upon malt as a substitute for the tax which had: • :
that they,mere to vt this tax. off; but they could
,failed ; and hence an impression had been made •
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.S.T, ATESMAN.
4 of Paris, ,aOd brought dispi
. of.,Wtmasisefonc who was
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• : not get it off without. bovilyi another, equal In which was not only oppressive to the labourer, bat 1 .
• .• '• LONDON: to Vienna.
. . amount, substituted for it.—[fries of this ism aim to the farmer, and every person who possessed pro- , •
: -tr _to lee purpose.]party in the H illustrate this by WRDNYSDAY, JANUARY 25, 1815. , •
r ; per county. e. would , • Affain irettaty still wez
'l;he Rica Snaaair said, he was anxious to hear , stating how the case stood. An acre of barley In , .......,,...._.
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oil . , Mr. Cobbett so long as he spoke in reason, bathe' Rants produced five quarters, upon which a taz.was
A Pandora's box is not yet opened ; hut we know ' said, is gang to Italy upon
74 , was not doing soot present. . • . l imposed of 4s. gd. or 10d. per bushel, and this, with
its contents. We have advice, from Vienna to the sion. It doubtless rotates
I Mr. Couscrisalci, be was ready with another Pe-
i. tbe increase produced forty shillings per quarter, or
I 134 : Mien, which he wished to mote in the room of that 1 ten pounds for the malt produced by one acre of 12th iostant-,-uP to the period said to have been fixed' spectiag • whose disposal g 1
,which had been reed.
. land. The:brewer divided this into (*Our parts, from by Lord CASTLEREAG4II for an unequivocal declare- yaits; though
.a letter fi
lion of the designs of the illustrious parties at the Englund has goaranteed.tr
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The Hine &tram signified that he might asovirs . whence he brewed twenty barrels of beer, which, at
Amentlrt to the first Petition.' a duty of 10s. per barrel, produced 201. more p"" Congress in regard to the chief objects in dispute. itioos, and the island of Sii
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* ik•. ; Airs °um ihni 'aid, that he would move that
acre, being 201. for every acre of barley in the county.
The edvices, however, which are 'both public and —We giro a copy c 4 Gent
r, ' !• .' 0., . all that Petition shooed boleft tvet--[Laugq—and , —[Applause.]—To this was to be added the brew-
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jamt another, whkh,, !tit had no other merit, was , er's profit, and the publican's profit, amounting al- Vivatt'a communicate nothing decisive; nor can we McRAT. Jt.is very guards
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.pypch shorter, should be adopted in its stead. together to more than the fee-simple of the land.--i seso;oiPer.t them to furnish much of chit description,' expression ; tet-sits *gem
..C. then proceeded to read over his Petition.— [Applause]—This tax, in fact, produced 4d. out of lilVdiessgh they are to the liEth, the-intelligence can 'his military superior. witi 'an
-adopted
by moving that this Petition should be every pot of beer,for which 6d.was:paid.
—{llllldarue.) .1; of the date of the 1 Ith' 'the a
only e 1- ay..the 'ultime-,accusati op . lixm,p4sx.ll I'
i ; •.), - -adopted as a rabOtitote to She brief which had been —Before he sat down, se would advert.to one or two. Roma were, according to report to be given in. The- "fie ?moat Papers are full
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1,1 • . Alit toad. ., . circumstances connec yith the subject before them. • • •
tienoa Press does not seem to enjoy much .liberty, 1
. -.. _ hite lisorii rose to smiled the motion. He denied He had seen a letter • tom Lord Liverpool to Mor
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courage, or informatiOn; 'Net hive, coirtAtießtir, and. tha reapiegeth g0v.t.1,4
iharitlwas Possible•forthe Meeting to comprehend Hart Davis, ow of e Members for Bristol, stating
1 .:... , the object, end, and aim of the first Petition. There that it was iughtsiblo fir Government to continue little to be relied on through that channel. In fact, Cgmetry of St. Denis. j
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