The Statesman.
London, England, 1820-09-06 00:00:00

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ESSENCE OF SHRIMPS.
tite iiseveneitbr tienvetod of this mash ihol-
rtiCtileid Sauce for all sorts of Fish. &e. it has induced the
rietor. HENRY POW ETA., at his Wholesale Oil end
item Warehouse. U. Newcate-street. (where the Trade
may be supplied with this and 211 other (Jeanie* Sauces.
Pickles. &r.) to return his must grateful acknowledgments
to the Public for their kind patronage. end at the same
thee begs leave to acquaint them that it is sold by ell
the Oil sad hails. Warehouses in Lateen. end by °se or
more respectable agents In every town throughoet the
United liingslont.

Observe, none is gennine unless sign( .1 " Dlemere tad
Son," and the Proprietors' seal on the Cork.

To Merchantq, Captaias, and others, it la partienlarly re-
commended for shipping, as it is 'oar/anted to keep is any
elimate.

BALDNESS or GREY HAIRS will not be tees.
Thousands of Ladies and Gentlemen who have used
Prince's Russia 011 for years, had a good head of hair
without being the least *Wed or grey. Rut some ladles
being persuaded by their heir -d to use other Oils, or
sold them counterfeit Russia Oil. they soon found tile differ-
ence, as their hair began to fall off. or get grey. In short,
Prince's Russia Oil is the wholesomest sad best Oil for pre-
servitor and promoting the growth of hair, and if used eon-
saintly, not a hair will fall of or turn grey ; even if the hair
has begun to turn grey, it is such a nourisher, that by use
it wilt restore it to the natural colour; clears the scurf, and
keeps the head and hair glean, and by using It regular for a
few months daily, will restore the hair on the bald pert, If
the least sigus of roots are remaining, which has been proved
by hundreds. But observe, to produce the desired efeet it
mutt be used regular.
Even the Medical Gentlemen at the Medical• Ball. London,
have published in filo Gazette of Health, that Prince's Russia
Oil is superior to anv Ott for the hair, and will do in eases
of baldness and weak hair what can possibly he done. Ladies
will find Prince's Russia Oil preferable to any other Oil for
dressing their own, or false hair, as it gives it a natural
glest, softens and earls it. Gentlemen wearing powder,
ought to use it Instead of pomatum, promotes eye-brows.
whiskers, de.
The Original Proprietor •.ts now so improved the Russia
Oil that it will 'bass, be sweet and pleasant, and will keep
in all elimstes; tad good allowance to Merchants and Cap-
tains for expoetatioo.
Ask to; Prince's Russia Oil, at 4s. the small bottle ; or a
bottle containing the quantity of near Ave small ones, at I Is.
which Is a greet saving.
Sold by the Sole Proprietor, Mr. Prince, No. 9. Poland-
street, Oxford-street ; and by Mr. Smyth, Perfumer to the
Royal Family, New Rond-street ; and by most respectable
Perfumers and Medicine Venders.

Also Prince's celebrated Rosvis Dye, being so improved,
theism dumb( now remains of its being the best astimost inno-
cent Mein the universe for immediately changing red trarey
Hair. Eve-brows, sad Whiskers, to Brown or Black with
no further tronble ilmn to pony s little of the Dye in v playa,
then dip a comb in it, and comb it through the hair, which
will have the desired caret.

Directions ere sealed up sith each bottle, so that any one
eau dye their own hair with ease and secrecy In a few
minutes. Half-a-gains-a per bottle ;or two betties one
pound; or one dosen bottles eve pounds.
Proved by allidavit the 24th November, Isl 4, before the
lord Mayor of London, that A. Prince is the Original
Proprietor in the tnivprie of the R 1143111 Oil or Russia
Dye; therefore if any Perfumer. Medicine-vender. Hair-
dresser, or any one else sell Russia Oil, or Russia Dye, that
is not Prince's, they are impostors, as they sell counterfeits
to their Customers.
Ask for Prince's Russia Oil, or Prince's Dye, and observe
" Prises" op the wrapper and seals ot each bottle; without,
it is net gamine, and (-tweet answer the purpose.
•e• Ladies and Gentlemen will be particular, as there are
several Hairdressers sad others in town and country who
sell tounterfeits, and say It is genuine.
As there are many in the country who have complained of
being taken in by counterfeit Russia Oil, therefore Ladies
sod Gestlemen will be sure to have the Genuine by enclosing
the Mosey Ina letter for the R 1191•1!, Oil. &e. directed to Mr.
Priser.l4o.9. Peaked-arise. thtfunt-stre&rt. Louden, whoa
Mr. P. will seed them by return of roach to say port of the
hairdos,.

BANKRUPTS.
W. Worn. Omit Yarmouth, eoaohomMer. to so ?reorder
Rept. 111,19, Oct. 17. at the Norfolk Hotel, 'Norwich. At-
torneys. Messrs. Simpson and Beckham, Norwich ; and Mr.
Taylor, Featherstone buildings, Holborn.
J. Greases, Nottingham, grocer, Sept. IS, 19, Oct. 17,
at the Ram Inn. Nottingham. Attorneys, Mr, Taylor,
Yield-court, Gray's Inn and Mr. Payne, Nottingham.
DIVIDENDS.
Sept. 27, 8. W. Mottles. Birmingham, tobacconist, at the
Castle Inn—Sept. 96, M. D. Martin, Burlington Arcade,
Piccadilly, jeweller, ai Guildhall—Sept. 28. T. A. Kerrloon.
Norwich, banker, at the Norfolk Hotel. Norwich--Oet, 11,
W. Lowndes, .1. Robinson, and 11. Neild, Manchester, cot-
ton-dealers, at the White Bear Inn. Manchester—Sept. 90,
W. Hamilton and M. Agar, Riches-court, Lime-street, ser-
i:heats, at Guildhall.
('ERTIFIC ITES—Serramata 96.
J. Rood, Portsmouth. common brewer—J. Levi, Wells.
Norfolk. cabinet-maker—A. M 'Fades.. Postern-row, Tower
hill, toyenan-8. Cooper, Totteohameourt-road, baker.
PARTNF.RSII IPS DISSOLVE!).
E. Alien sad J. Allen. Whitechapel, brush-makers.—J.
Beeereus. jun. A. Doyennes, and H. F. Devereux. Gosport.
Swaorrick and J. Mansfield, Prestbury.
Cheshire, silk-throwsterti.—J. Lane Cherry and J. Field,
Wallingford. Berkshire, eabinet-makers.—J. Thompson and
J. Madan, Manchester, cotton-dealers.—W. Grover and 8.
Tayspyll Day. Stsnsted Mount Fitehelt, Essex, (so trade.)
J. hlartioaut and M. Burnett Biddulph, Poston-street. West-
minster, embroiderers.--J. Learmoulla. A. Learmouth, jun.
and N. Jones. London, (no trade.)—A. Woatou, and E.
Weston, Lewes, gun-makers.

IMP ERML P.-111LI4.NENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS. TVISDAT, SI,T. S.

(SIVINTIZ's ru war.)
(Examination of Grieseppe Se-ehi continued from yes-

terday.; Sversotora.)
Did von ever intreat any person in the service of the
Princes* to endeavour to ;et you bark into her service ?
—Noss ai rieordo.

Did you ever represent to any person after von left
the service of the Princess, that you were in a destitute
condition ?---Never.

I.so ever Inmost Of at! pitsdh hi the 61
the Princess to heg of her Royal Highness to have com-
passion on your distressing situation ?—1 have never
been in a distressing situation?--A laugh.
Will you swear, 4r, that Foss have been intreated of any
person in her Royal Highness's service to beg of her to
have passion on your dreadful situation ?•—•;11.01 1711
rirordo.
Answer the question, Sir.--Will yon swear you
oever did so ?--It may he.
- -

Did you ever represent to any person aller you left
the service of her Royal Highness, that you taxed
yourself with ingratitude to a kind and generous
Mistress?

-Here the ArroaNETARNERAL to that
question. He said, that his friend Mr. Brougham
should ask the witness wiiether he ever represented in
conversation that he did w. Bet to the generality of
the question he must object.
Mr. BR01:011A11 contended, that he had a right to
put the qnestion geNerally ; but tliat at all events, the
objection of the Attorney-Oeneral could not arise is
the present stage of the prw-eedings.
Here the I ntepreter begged permission of the House.
that the witness who complained of indisposition might
be permitted to withdraw.
On leave being granted, the witness withdrew.

Mr. Dammam then rose, and begged permission of
their Lordships to make a few short oh lions on the
objection of the Attorney-lieneral. He said, that
amongst all authorities, which, in the course of his short
practice, he bad occasion to consult, lie could not find
single precedent from which his Learned Friend could
raise his objection ; and, if there were inch, be called on
him for the proof. Flow, in the present instance, the
objection could have the effect of eliciting the troth, he
was at a loss to know. It might, to be sure, serve to
shield end protect the witoess front the detection of
his fraud and falsehood ; but as to whether the repre-
sentation was made in writing, or made by word or
month, is equally indifferent to theascertaining of truth,'
which is the object of their Lordships In the present
enquiry. He therefore claimed the right of
putting the question in the inammer in which
his Learned Friend, (lir. Brougham) had put it, moil
seeing if an objection could at all be made, it mast be
when a written document was produced. Rut it weirslo
most tinpreceslent,il objection that ever yet was used.
And if Counsel he permitted to interpose their objec-
tions, when the credulity of a witness is sifting, how is
it possible that the troth can ever be elucidated. For if
he and his rolleagoes hare information that at some for-
mer period he made representations differing from his
present statement, tint, a letter or a written elopement is
produced, it is left at the mercy of leis own rtplanation
He will esplain it, my Lords, with a &Able eatradre.
There never was a more flimsy or unprecedented ob-
jection, it was at war with common sense. And if this
course is to he followed, he would rather at once submit
it to the High Authorities of that Court. For no.power
on earth could rule Liao, much less those persons whom
he charged with producing this perjured witness. If
this were the case, no conspiracy could ever be detected.
My Lords, said 31r. Denman, precedents will be drawn
from this day's proceedings for future times, and as pro-
les4ional men, Av e owe a duty to the public, we owe a
duty to the profession of which we are humble members,
and we owe a duty to posterity, not to suffer the law to
be transmitted in that manner.
The ATTORNEY-01,1111AL said,he thought It was now
pretty clear from the speech of the Learned Coonael on
the other side, what he delivered with so mach urassittli,
what coarse was intended to be pursued. Anti here be
could not avoid remarking to their Lordships ant the

Lord RIDESDALE apprehended that one Counsel had
no right to interrupt another. When each had finished
the other might have a right to make any observation to
correct a min-statement, but at present be thought the
Learn's' Counsel had no right to be heard.
The Loiu CIIANCILLOS.—" Call in the Counsel."
no Counsel having come to the bar,
The Conn CAA NCIILLOR informed them that the House
bad decided that they had no right to interrupt each
other, bat to wait till they were done, and theu to cor-
rect any misstatement which might have been made.
The Arroarrav-liarranat. said, no man was less anions
to misstate the argument of another than he was; bat
lie appealed to the Honse if what he had ted were
not correct. The argument of his Learned Friend (Mr.
Denman) came to this, that he had a right to examine
the witness on any representations he had made while
holding the letter in his hand which was to confute him.
The nil* which had beta laid down was, that a witness
should not be questioned about a written document,
without that document being first sbewn to him. If,
then, this could not be done directly, lie apprehended it
could sot be done indirectly. He then noticed the coo-
duct of his Learned Friend.in imputing to him a motive
I which did not belong to him, that of protecting the wit-
ness from the consequences of his own statements.
Mr. DINMAN did not mean to impute this to his Learn-
ed Friend.

The Arroastrv-Gensaa L was glad to hear this from
wie whom he so highly respected; and he declared that
he had only ohjected to the question because it bad
appeared to him to be illegal.
Ilaot:unam begged to say he had only meant to
correct' in unintentional misrepresentation of hi* argn•
,sent by his Learned Friend, who had imputed that to
him Web he bad never advanced. He had merely
Depletive's he had a right M ask generally wheels., the
witness had made any representations of the nature de-
scribed.

The Loan CR INCILLOR re-called to their Lordships
recollection, that the interference of the Judges had
been very beneficially experienced on former occasions,
in the course of their proceedings, where points of dis.
pure had arisen between the Learned Counsel at ti... I
Bar. The last disputed question which had been settled
Ire the Judges was, respecting certain letters as' ritten
evidence, and from calling in the Learned Counsel to
mist them with their elucidations on points of law, or
praetice in the lower Conrts, their Lordships bad
derived much satisfactory information. Ile this-
claimed all intention to bestow unnecessary praise,
but with respect to the part taken by Mr. iirillianis
on the above occasion, he must say, that it was ex;
tromely well argued on his part. As far as he was
concerned in the present rise, he must say, that he
oink wish their Lordships to refer the question at
issue to the opinion of the Judges. If their Lordships
agreed with him in this, the question he should pro-
pose was, " whether it was competent according to
the practice in the Courts below, for Counsel in cross-
examining to ask the opposite Connsel objecting, who-
Ow a witness hall ninde a representation, withunt spe-
cifying whether that representation was in writing or
in terms." If the witness replied that itiei was
writing, of course there was an end to the matter ; fur
the writing would speak for itself. But he wished to
guard himself from e; pressing Any opinion of his own.
The question haying been put, and their Lordships
deciding that the opinion of the Judges should be
taken, the Judges accurdiugly retired to consult.
During their absence, . .
Lord lierceorr rose and stated, that h • wished to
take that opportunity of submitting to their Lordships
a motion which he thought it was highly necessary
siidltill be made, and he hoped it would be complied
sub. He had not thou ;ht it m•cessary to give the
Noble Earl opposite any notice of his intention to bring
this forward, because it was a motion respecting his
own conduct. He then moved for an account of all
the sums which had been advanced to her Majesty
since her last arrival in this country.
' Lord LITIMPOOL said, he could have wished the Noble
Lord had given him notice of his intention to submit
such a motion as this, whirls would certainl' have been
ishe most decorons way with a motion ui this novel
tore. For his own part, he hail no object' that the
omelets moved for should be laid before the whole
world ; but in point of precedent their Lordships should
not adopt it w4hont mature consideration.
After a few words from Lord Hot.i.oto and Urea-
root., Lord lisecrom agreed to ivitheiraw his motion fur
the present, giving notice of it fur to-morrow.
After half an hour's absence, the Judges returned and
delivered their opinion that the question could not be
put, as it had been asked by the Counsel for the defence.
After which a long conversation ensued, as to the shape
In which the question should be put, in which Lords
they Liverpool, Erskine, Orenville, Holland, Laos-
down., Lauderdale and Redestiale joined. This was
stopped by the Lord Chancellor's asking Mr. Brougham
Vile did or did not wish to withdraw the question ?
Mr. BROL'UNAM—To save them my Lord, I most
**wetly wish to withdraw it.—(A laugh.)'
After a few words front Lords Dozer cemeat and
Lard HOLLAND, the witness was recalled and the crime-
examination proceeded.
Cross-examination resumed.
Did eon ever say To any person that your conduct to-
wards her Royal Highness was liable toil', charge of in. .

Hadn't you some money at a Innker's in Lausanne
I had.
How mtich ?—Fiftv Lonis.
Will you swear that von never had mare at that
banker's at a time ?—I had nornore than the 50 Louis.
Will you swear that yon never had a credit which em-
powered you to draw on that banker fur more than
that ?—1 never had.
Did yon ever say to any person that you bad either a
credit, or a greater sum in their hangs?—.Vo.l iwi ri•
cord°.

You won't swear thent—l cannot swear, when I am
in doubt.
Did you filch a certain Mademoiselle Dumont from
Switzerland to Milani—l did.
Did you bring her back t— No.
Who etnployed yon to get her was desired by tie
Commission. which was at Milan.
Did you tell any person in Switzerland that Made-
moiselle I)nmont was gone back, or going hack to re-
turn to the service of her Royal Highness —Nevi.... •
Who did )iitt come with, when you came to !bisector!.
try yourself ?—A 'outlet. called (ronse.
Is that Mr. ('reuse who was lately arrested at Paris
for uttering forged notes never heard speak of that.
Did he come to London with you, or did be remain at
Paris?—lle came with me to London.

Is Mr. Crouse a regular King's Messen,trer, or is It•
only emplaced as such, for the Milan e0111111i131012 be •
siness?-1 Flo not know.
Have von made out a:ty other journies with this Mr •
Crouse ?--Ne;er.

How notch money did you get front the Milan Con,-
mission?—Only the expenees of my journeys to Milan
And return, an. another
_tourney..
be yoO mein-to swear That von have resew-,1
mire of any money ?—1 t:o mean that I never wea pre-
mised any.
Du you mean to swear that moo never had any promise
from any person, of remuneration for tli:s business ?
I can swear that I never received any
_promise.
That yon never received promise of any advantage to
be given you of any sort?-1 never asked for any thing.
nor was ever offerea.
I don't want to know if von ever asked fur any ; or, if
yon was ever offered any ; but if any person ever pro:
raised von any advantage whatever ?—No one ever pro-
mised me any thing.
Have you ever said to any one that yon ever r.•-
ceived any money, or any proutife of money or ad
vantage ?—I never said to any peon that I. had re-
ceived any advantage or tts.tney. I might have said;
that I was paid my expellees.
Do von not expert any money or advantage ?---I
I hope to be paid for ins time which I am made t/
lose now.
Have you ever seen Mademoiselle Dumont since jou
came to this country ?—Many tines.
Have von seen any of the other witnesses in this.
neighbourhood •
Re-examined by the ATTORY/T-GILIAMAL.
Where does your family live?—At Broglie.
Were von ever in the army I—Yea, ten years.
What army slid von s•rve in ?—I it the artnymf Italy. •
Whose army of Italy, Bonaparte's army ?—tne arm:
of the hinted of Italy, headed by Bonaparte. .
What rank slid you hold at the time you left it
First Lieutenant of Cavalry.
What was the date of vonr Commission ?--The ftis o.t
' September, ISIS, on the:field of battle.
When von left the Princess's service did you receive
any rert nicer of your character ?--• I did.
Have you got it about you ?--if es.
Is it signed Iry her Royal Highness?—When given to
me, I was told that it had bee" signet by her Koval
highness.
Have you ever seen her Royal Highness writs?-411 du
not remember ever to have seen her. _ _

Have yon ever seen ouy letters written by her any.
where ?
31r. Ilantumss objected to this question. He has !it-
ready said that he never saw her write, what can be the
use of Learned Friend's questisn. •
1k) you know whose seal was put to it?--1 do.
Whose?---It is the same seal which 1 have often Weft
on the letters which her Royal Highness has given lo
Who gave you the certificate r--Count Schiaveii.
[The certificate was here produced, and about tot',
read,] when—
Mr. BROVUII.OI objected. All that haw been prove.'.
is, that the witness received it from Schiaveni, and that`
there is what lie calls a seal, with what.l call a piece •
wax affixed to it, by whom be knows not. . True. he af- •
firms that it was given to him with naval, ens meow. •
that it was the seal of her Royal Highness. He owns tau,
that he does not know whose writing it is, and mulct
these circumstances, 1 contend that thiscertificatecannut •
be received in evidence.
The ATTOILMET4IINERAL, —Your Lordships will
find that it is already in evidence, (page 262) that
Schlavini was the person in her Royal Higliness'a ser-
vice, who was in the, habit of giving certificates of atm-
, rarter to the servants on quitting her service. It is alas
'in evidence, that those certificates were signed by her
Royal Highness ; and that the seal was she hon.
Mr. Basiestram.—But it will be ressllerted that those
certificates according to the evidence, were delivered
signal and isea:ed. fa the present cam there is no pool
of the signature, and as for a seal there k none.

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