The Statesman.
London, England, 1819-06-29 00:00:00

THE .STA'I4nIIIAN.

that to his too's discretion. He hid no objection oil
his own account to his disclosing f•Pry thing.
Mr. Teed, jot. was again called in, and said be
hart so objection to answering ill. questions.
The Committee was then pustp..nerl till tu...nwereose•
Mr. W. WYNN thought while this e
tiou was going on, they ought to seat at two, instead
of three o'clock.

Mr. F. ROBINSON saw ap objection to it.
Mr.,BROGDEN brought op the iteriri of tier
Cotton-factories Bill. The amendments weir agreed
to, and the Bill ordered to be reed a third time to-
morrow.

The Wit 11,91,16. Indemnity Bill was read a third
time ■nd passed, afitr a few observations from Mr.
R. MARTIN and Mr. W. WYNN.
Mr. C. GRANT moved for an Estimate of the
Grants for the Miscellaneous Services in 'reload for
tho last and present year ; which he hi ought up, and
they were ordered to be laid en the table.
The Anneal Accounts Bill was read a ascend
time, and ordered to he committed to-morrow, as
wets the Supervisors of Eacime sod Cod Fishery
Bawdy Bills.
Mr. CALCRAFF asked what the eaters of the
Bill was ?

Mr. BROGDN nid, -be relieved it made no al-
teratioo in the etistiag law. .

Mr. GALCItAre said, *beer Gentlemen only
stated what they believed, it was the duty of the
floes, to know whet the mesrurrs were which were
harried through the lions* at this late period of the
Session. There were 54 motions and 11 made.e ow
the paper for thin night.
Mr. ROBINSON said this was an annual Bill.

The New Forest Bill went through a Committee,
and was ordered to be reported on Wednesday.
The Customs Foreign Wstes lull wes read a se-
cond time, end ordered to be committed to-morrow ;
as were the Plate Glass, the Crown Glass, the In.
land Cool, the Appropriation, the Spirits Intercourse,
the Coal Drawbacks, the Militia Pay, the Irish Mili-
tia Pay, the Annual Excise Duties, and the Vessels
Cargoes Report, 13111 s.
The Report of the Sweet end Midi* Win.. Act
woe brought op, the Resolutions egr•ed to, and a
Bill ordered to be brought i•• accordingly
The Report of the Coffee expried Customs Du-
ties Act was brought up, and a Bill ordered to be
brought in, perseant to the Itiso:utions of the Com-
Ware.

The Irish Chana►y Courts Bill neat through a
Committee, and was ordered to br reported to-mer•

His blajesty's Property Bill wee reed a second
tine, sod ordered to be committed to•taorrorr.

The Report of the Tobacco Importation Bill was
ordered to be brought op, abd the Bill re-committed,
and ordered to be reported to-morrow.
Mr. W. WYNN gave notice, tbat he would to.
morrow move an instruction to the Attorney. Gene.
mil, to protocols certain person for bribers and cor-
ruption at (Isolate Grampoond Flimflam.

MOCK AUCTIONS BILL.

Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN them moved that
the Haase do resolve itself Into a Committee on the
Mock Auctions Bill.

Mr. CALCRAFT would not have objected to the
Bill if it only went to prevent Mock Auctions.—
He thought some of the
litic. He moved that the Mese resolve itself into
the Committee on this day sic months.
Mr. Alderman WAITHM A N maintained, that
the Bill had received the approbation of the late
Mr. Whitbread, as far as it respected Mock Asc.
dens: be had opposed it only because he thought it
'would interfere with the sale of estates. In its pre-
stitt shape the measure had received the sanction of
the Chancellor of the Eschequer, and it applied only
to household furniture and manufactured goods,
'Oboist interfering with farming-stock or landed
property. He had no objection to modify the class*
regarding the sale of goods belonging to Auctioneers,
by allowing it when it was drily specified in the eats.
logic.
Mr. Aldermen WOOD said, that it was impossi-
ble to get at the persons who put forward these
Mock Auctions: the chief evil was, that the buyers
did not get the goods which were slimed, and which
they imagined they lied perchased.
A division took place on the amendment of Mr.
C.alcraft. The numbers were:—
For the amentintent. 29 i Against it, 47.

When we were re-admitted, we found the Horne
in a Committee on the Bill. A discussion took place
between Lord Lowther, Mr. Alderman Weithinani
Mr. Catcraft, Mr. Calvert, Mr. F. Lewis, and Mr. F.

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Robinson. The gallery was cleared for a division
on the clause (as we understood) relative to sue.
tioneers petting their own goods Into sales. Siren.
gers wets secluded for nearly so beer. The am.
hers ware:—

Mr. CALCRAFT enquired whether it was pro.
NEW that any s•ennd ►Report ironic! -be promoted
doting the present Session from she Commissioners Si).
pointed to cengider of the most effectual means of
preventine the Forgers. of Bink.noto..

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
replied, that considerable progress hsd been made in
accomplishing lb. object of the Commission, bat he
was not able to state when a farther Report would
be in readioess.

The Mum 'hen resolved itself into a Committee
on the Welch Gams Bill, and after having heatil it
read paragraph by paragraph, ordered tbs Report to
be received to•eaorrorv.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved, that the Hobo should resolve itself iuto s
Committee of Supply.

GENERAL BOYD.
Mr. WILBER FORCE took this common of sob.
witting the case of General Boyd to the consideratiou
of • Committee of the whole Mom This Geolle.
man had beim in the military service of the Nisam,
at the period of Lord Wellesley's edoinistretion in
lodic At that time he signalized himself most
benefieially for err Interests is defeating the
lot threes and machinations of the French.—
On one occasion he had been soddenly called erne
et the hour of midnight to march with his whole
strength to the assistaoce of the British Commander,
who was apprehensive of an immediate attack by the
French forces. With this request General Boyd
complied, and the value of his compliance had been
acknowledged in the most handsome terms; it had
been represented to the Sept... Government, and a
reward promised adequate to the service which he
had performed, and the friendly disposition whisk
he had manifested. Ilia support of our interests had
indeed twee attended with conseqmoces very inju-
rious to his own, for his epistles bad resorted to arti.
flees spinet hies, through which he lost his situation
gooier the Nisem, a situation worth not less than
60001. a-year. He subsequently received from the
Company's Government, a compensation in a way
that was sepposerl to be very advantageous to
him. Saltpetre was at that period an article in
great regent, and he was allowed to mod a cargo
of it from Calcutta, the ultimate value of which,
it was calcelated,weeld amount to 50,0001. Ile had a
special liceocograoted to hies for the purpose of se-
curing this property in the event of a American war,
which was thee considered to be of probable war-
room The Committee would hear, however, with
surprise and concern, that the Captain of the ship
having touched at the Cape of Good Hope, for the
purpose of landing some passengers, the vessel was
seised, and condemned by the Vice-Admiralty Court
of that settlement. Those Courts were not, lodged,
at that time, on the stem footing as at present, and
the betimes, of them was frequently administered, not
by am of high character and professional experience,
bat by persons neither qualified nor disposed to act
justly between suitors. Hot what chiefly emetnanded
the esteem and admiration with which be viewed the,
character of Gapers! Boyd was, that his gaol will
towards this cooetry was not shown ins sudden start,
bet exhibited on various messiest', and after he
bad been deprived of the benefit Wooded for
him. During the late war he held a command
le the American army, and it would appear, from a
letter of the British Officer opposed to him, how
highly the latter appreciated the kindoeso and gene.
molly with which the English prisoners and wounded
were always treated by Gen. Boyd.—[lfese the lion.
Member reed a letter addressed to W. Menial, Eq.
by Geri. do Rottenbarg, in which the conduct and
humanity of General Boyd were spoken of with
much praise.]—A Committee of the limns bad been
appointed last Session to enquire into this case, end
they recommended, what appeared to him, under
all the circumstances, to be a very moderate grant, a
sem of 6,0001. 111 should conclude by moving that
a sem of 6,0001. be granted to his Majesty in order
to enable him to remunerate the service, rendered to
this country by General Boyd, a Chime sod Officer
of the Uoited States.

Mr. MARRY AT armed some surprise et the
motion now brought forward by the lion. Member.
In the yes, 1797, the Nizam had Its his service the
.obsidiary force commend►d by Gen. Boyd, and a
French subsidiary Nice. It was somewhat singular
that the Britibh Commander should invite the nee to
attack the other. It was doubtful also upon the evi-
dence, whether Gen. Bind bad ever put his force is
motion for the purposed stated. It appeared, how-
ever, that he had signified an intention of so doing,
and this he onderstond to form the ground of the,
present claim. The East India Company had allow.
ed him to ship 900 tons of salt-petre from Cal.
coitus for Boston; but It was seized and cos.
demised at the Cape of Good Hope. A sum bad
been awarded for the orleinal value of the cargo.
—The sentence of the Vice-Admiralty Court had
been d at home ; but he regretted to say,
that the documents had been altered and raided ow
the pert of General Boyd, for the purpose of sepd-
riling the insurance from the general account. It
had been afterwards represented that this was dose
on the orifice of American lawyers, but he believed
it had been done on no other advice than that of
General Boyd's agent. In the present case, the claim
appeared to him to have ne foundation in justices
Mr. WILBERFORCE hoped the Committee, its
coming le a elecistoe ow the grant. would be (aided
not by the statement of the lion. Member, bet by a
fair view of the merits of the case.

Mr. 11. GURNEY aspported the Grant.
Mr. T. WILSON thought the General had no
claim either a. a foreigner or al a native, cud Ite(Mr.
Wilton)*Gold not rote for the grant.

Sir JAMES MACINTOSH said, that be could
not bring his 'mind to suppose a mann of General
Boyd's chaistler guilty of the scandalous intention
to soimmate the amount of his loss. The tote he
should give should be in support of the grant pro-
posed.
Mr. FINLAY said, that if his Hoe. Friend (Mr.
Marr)at)eraidisposed to take the sense of the Home
on
the grant, he should vote against it.
Mr. BROUGHAM spoke in favour of the grant.
Mr. FINLAY and Mr. BROUGHAM moteally
ezplaised.
Mr. C. FORBES meld, that If an ansetsdamit
were proposed, radiating the grant to a smaller sem,
be should rote for it lather thaw for the &glee!

Sir I. COFFIN had !o. knees Gen. yd,..4'
he believed him iticapable of attempting to impose ott
the Home.
The CHANCELLOR .f the EXCHEQUER
supported the Grist.
The Grout was tam 'greed to, end the House re.
lemed.—Report .to-morroo.
WAYS AND BEANS.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER. the Report of the Committee of
Ways and Mesas was received, su,d the several Re-
solutions of the Growing' were agreed to by the
Hoes,.

A disressiob took place on the Resolution gremlin
10001. to provide implements of industry for the
New Bridal,*ll to Dublin.
, Mr. HUME said that this wu Doe of the grant.
which had bees proposed this year for the ant time,
none of which be approved of. He was coorimeed
that such grants, instead of promoting the ehsritable
purposes fur *MA they were givers, tended only NI
blunt the Geer feelings of the mind, and to enarease
the number of objects.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD wu willing to believe
that nothing but • sense of duty had prompted the
Honourable Member to object to this great, for he
was convinced the Hoes. would think it ono of the
least objectionable that had been proposed.
Mr. C. GRANT thought himself justifiable it
bringing forward this Estimate. He did not propose
that this thould be an seneal grant ; it woe only an
experiment, and if it was to be tried at all, it ought
to be tried fairly.
Mr. WYNN spoke In father of the vote.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD esplsined.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD could not understand
why greats should not be made for the benefit of Ire..
land as well as for that of England, or why t►ey
should be Wiped merely on account of their novelty.
Mr. W. SMITII thought it the most (mob.
jectioneble of the whole; but as to the grant of
10,0001. to the Irish Linen Board, he certainly en•
tertained a different opinion.
Mr. Pggi. hoped that, provided the Hone wee
satiated with the propriety of these grants, it would
not withhold its liberality, became he was convinced
of their necessity.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD explained.
Sir 11. PARNELL supported the grant.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD explained.
Mr. RANK ES spoke in support of the grant.
Mr. C. GRANT explained.
Lord CARHAMPION made a few rserstk4
after which the vote was agreed to.
Mr. HUME, on the reading of the Resolution
for 70001. towards defraying the salasies of Law Of.
tars, Ac., mad* some oh lions iii reply to what
had fallen from the Noble Lord and the Right Hon.
Gent. (Mr. Fitzgerald), by whom he iboeght him.
self to base been much misunderstood.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD, In ezplanation. had un.
dertood the objections of the Honourable Gentleman
(Mr. Hume) to apply generally to the management
and admiaistratio■ of aH charities in Indeed. The
Hon. Genitalia's, be might with more teases cotta.
plain, bad quite misenderstood himself.
Mr. Huse captained ; aid after a few words front
Mr. Weidman and Mr. It. Martin, the Reseletiom
was agreed to; as were also these Resolutions:—
MO *6o the Ilirerlioa of Scianols in Irri end. ike.
£17.076 ISt. ful. for salmi good ire detackacies of the
Civil Lire is Ireland.
COMMITTEE or WAYS AND MEANS.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER'
said, that after the general exposition be had give%
on a former night touching the Ways arid Meant for
the service of the year, It would not be necessary'
how to recapitulate his former statement. His ob.
jeer at present would be to move for a grant of El.
chequer sod Treasury Bills for the service of Great
Britain and Ireland, to replace others to a cultic,
amount now out.studiog. The sum of those uteri.
ties now out-standing was 49 millions, which would
be reduced above tea millions in the curse of lb.
present year, leaving 38f millions. He should for
the present only move for 16 million sod a half oat
Exchequer Bills for England, and two millions of
Treashry Bills to replace those out-standing in th.
Bank of Ireland. The Bank held 19f, which, added.
to 16} in Exchequer Bills for England, and the two
millions Treasury Bills for Ireland, would make up
the 38 millions ►e bad mentioned. He wished ter
mention another point to the Huse, namely, that
there was a surplus of 244,0001. remaining over the
expenditure from the Consolidated Fond of last year
which he meant to apply to the services of the pre.
sent. He begged leave also to add, that the pro.
dace of the HAMMe of the present year, at the end
of the last quarter, compared with that of the corre-
sponding peeled in the preceding year, gave a our.
plus of 250,0001., and up to this day the surplus
would amount to 300,0001.; missive of the duties
on tea et the last odes, which were very extensives,
and which had not yet come into the Exchequer.—
And the same might be said of an estraordimary put.
chase of articles in anticipation of the taxes about to
be imposed on them in the present year; and the
defies on which bad not yet come to the Exchequer.
The Right Hosourable Gentleman then recapitulated
his stammers, and moved for a grant of sixteen mil.
lions and a half of Exchequer Bills for the service of
the year.
Sir 11E?iitY PARNELLadverted to the prevent
high and alarming state of the exchanges between this
country and [reload, being from 14 to 15 per cent.
against the latter, owing to the large remittances out
to absentees in this country, and for commercial per.
poses, the great balance of trade against Ireland, and
the consequent high price of bills to make remittances.
Ile suggested to the KWH II ble the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer the expediency and necessity of
taking some •tees to counteract this nil, and pro.
posed, that he should send to the Bank of Ireland a
large sem in Eri Hob Excherper Bills, ers wpm' t here
gm tiresome tempi es in this coluity. for the purchase
of remittance in payments here in lieu of bills •f es-
chance, which would afford rest relief to the ewer.
cantile end *law commercial interests.
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