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He could not exactly
e sent his wife

would not allow him i

say when tIJ

for the sick money at

ere chosen, but

In explanation of the refusal in question, it was contended
that there had been a mistake on the part of the person sum-
moned, who should have been the stewards of the branch to
which the complainant belon--.1 ^^a -al prey'
dent of the society,

_..bed, and not the gen(
n office which the defendant

filled. The society had been divided into several branches
—the branches to provide for the sick, and the general com-
mittee for the mortality fund. The object was, that the
mortality fund might be raised by small contributions when
a death happened; but the general president had nothing to
do with the fund for the sick according to the rules. The
claimant had, however, summoned the presidents of the
branch, by whom he was informed that they were the wrong
parties to look to for payment.

A witness of the mime of John Doyle was then sworn,
who deposed that he was president of the Provident Friendly
Society, which was subsequently merged into the Hibernian
Society, previously to which he was sent to Ireland on busi-
ness connected with the society, by whom his expenses,
amounting to £6, were paid. In reply to a question from
Mr. Rushton, for what " particular business"
money was spent by a benefit society, the following (to sonm
people) instructive admissions were mr..4^ -
Doyle.—Why, there was a gentleman—.
jintlemen !—one of the members here, put under b.
they sent me to see if I could get him bailed. I

s sum of

all these people are

.est, and

Ireland, and it took a long time to get bail for him.
Mr. Rushton.—Why did they set you about getting bail
for a man under arrest in Ireland?

Doyle.—He was arrested here, and taken over to Trend.
Mr. Rushton.—On what charge ?
Doyle (hesitatingly).—Oh ! on private affairs.
Mr. Rushton.—On what charge?
Doyle.—Ribbonism, I suppose.
Mr. Rushton.—And you were sent to bail him ?
Doyle.—No ; I wasn't sufficient bail, but I went to see if
I could get parties in Ireland to bail him.
A rather awkward excuse this of a benefit (1) society for

the non-possession of funds to pay its sick members ; and it
may be a startling one to some gentlemen who deny the ex-
istence of RIBBONISM amongst us. Accordingly an attempt
was made to show that the £6 in question were contributed
from the private funds of the members, and not from the
society's box. The public, however, will scarcely admit such
a payment from members only of a benefit society to be very
conclusive evidence of the non-existence of the extens;,-
the ribbon system as a part of the real objects
that society; and such appears to have been the expre.
opinion of the magistrate himself, although the question w
nob strictly before him. The defendant, M'Ardle, was, after
considerable discussion and some adroit fencing, ordered by
Mr. Rushton to pay the amount of the claim, and told that,
if he refused, the members of the society would be compelled
to do so. We may remark, that such are the kind of bene-
fit t! ) societies whose processions on St. Patrick's Day, with
the priest at their head and revolutionary banners borne
before them, which are viewed with such tender interest by
a certain class of our " liberal " townsmen.

med at by

MEETING OF THE DOCK COMMITTEE

The weekly meeting of the Dock Committee was held yes-
terday, when the following members were present :—Messrs.
Sands (chairman), Barclay, Holt, Holmes, Smith, Bulley,
Middleton, Nicol, Tobin, Shand, Ripley, and Evans. _ _

The tender of Mr. Thomas Steele, for excavating rock for
the purpose of lengthening Clarence Graving Dock, was ac-
cepted. The tender of Mr. John Barker to supply 300 tons
of iron rails, was also accepted.

On the recommendation of the sub-committee for the de.
partment of the Marine Surveyor, it was ordered that a grant
of 2s. 6d. per month additional subsistence money, as allowed
to the crews of the light-ships when on duty; should be also
allowed to the two seamen attached to the Liver tender.

The same sub-committee produced a new plan for the
signalling of ships from Bidston, instead of the present poles,
which, from decay, have become insufficient for the purpose.

It was agreed to.
A report was made that Emanuel Rodriguez had picked
up the remains of the chain and the anchor which were lost
from one of the light-ships in 1833, and also the remainder
of a chain which was lost in February last. An order was

passed for the payment of one-third of the value of the
chains and anchor, as soon as the weight of them is ascer-

Mr. RIPLEY observed that Rodriguez would perhaps h
to receive £25 for his trouble; and it was most remarkable
he said, that neither the chains nor the anchor were very
much corroded, although they had been so long under wat
(Laughter.)
The CHAIRMAN said Mr. Ripley's remark was a very gc
introduction to the next subject, which was the production
of tenders, by the sub-committee for the department of the
Marine Surveyor, for the new light-ship, both for wood and
iron. Their report was, that in their opinion the new light-
ship should be built of iron instead of wood ; and that Mr.
Laird's tender, being the lowest, should be accepted.
After some desultory discussion, a division took place,
when there-appeared—

For iron

For wood.

Majority for iron ......., .... 4
For iron—Messrs. Ripley, Holt, Barclay, Evans, Holmes
Bulley, Nicol, and the Chairman—S.
For wood—Messrs. Middleton, Tobin, Smith, and Shanc
—4. _ _ _ _ _ .

Mellor, Sandbac

Absent—Messrs. Horsfall, Mc
Molyneux, Martin, Aikin, Chilton, and Bold
A letter from Mr. Joseph C

dent of

the entrance to George's
Mr. Askew, the water bt

A memorial from Mr. Matthew Tiernan. the agent of se-
veral fishing smacks coming here from the coast of Ireland
and the Isle of Man was read. It stated that Canning Dock
being closed, and the herring season just at hand, it was
highly desirable that some station should be found for them,
and suggesting that a portion of George's Dock be appro-
priated for that purpose, till the reopening of Canning Dock.
The CHAIRMAN stated that Canning Dock would be re-
opened in a fortnight. _ _ _ . _

Mr. TomN.—li must be hard work, then ; I see no pre-
parations for its being opened in a fortnight or a month either.
The memorial was then ordered to lie on the table.
A letter from the owners and agents of several steam-
packets, requesting that an opening might be made in the
west boundary wall between Clarence and Trafalgar Docks,
for the accommodation of passengera and cattle landing upon
the pier, was referred to the Sub-committee of Works.

The committee then proceeded to the consideration of fi-
nancial matters, and separated about one o'clock.

CORRESPONDENCE

LECTURES ON THE NOVELTIES OF POPE
PIUS'S CREED.

HE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

TO THE EDITOR 01
quite agree with your correspondent " Prote
tant," that the Rev. J. C. Barrett, who is to deliver the lec-
ture this evening on the eighth novelty, merely requires to
be heard to be admired, whether as a preacher or a speaker.
I do trust, therefore, that the friends of the Protestant cause
will shew their regard to this champion in their cause by at-
tending the meeting. It is to be regretted that the opera-
tives cannot be admitted free of charge ; but unless the more
wealthy classes will pay, I suppose it is necessary to charge
all, in order to meet the necessary expenses attendant upon
the lectures. ANOTHER PROTESTANT.

IRON AND WOOD

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

SlR,—Having noticed, in your paper of yesterday, a letter
beaded " Iron and Wood," I am induced to offer a few ob-
servations upon it, not from an idea that anything I can say
will throw much light upon the subject, but rather from a
hope that I may elecit observations from some one better
able to afford information upon a subject that cannot fail to
be interesting to many of your readers who are engaged in
maritime affairs. Mr. Askew advises an experiment with
an inflated bladder, a piece of wood of the same shape (he
does not name size), and a piece of cork the same shape.no
size named, so we may as well assume them all to be of the
same size as of any other size taken by chance). He then
recommends that a line and weight be attached to each—(we
may, I suppose, assume the weights to be equal, as he says
nothing to the contrary). Then the bladder, wood, and cork
are to be set afloat in a strong breeze. Now what is the re-
sult to be expected from such an arrangement? It may, I
think, be guessed at without experiment. The wood, being
deepest in the water, from its greater specific gravity, will
be less exposed to the action of the wind than the cork, and
the cork less than the bladder ; the wood will be more acted
upon by the tide than the cork, and the cork more than
.the
bladder. Now if the weight attached to the wood be just
sufficient to act as ballast for the wood, it will be too little
for the cork, and much too little for the bladder. Then the
inference to be drawn from such an experiment appears to
me to be, that the weights and their buoys are not properly
adjusted it does not, to my mind, prove that the bladder
may not, with a suitable weight, ride as steady as the wood.
Now, in adjusting the weights and buoys, we may either in-
crease the weights of the lighter buoys, or, if for any reason.
it may be necessary to carry only a certain amount of weight,

we may make a proper reduction in the s
buoys. Now let us apply this view of the c
struction of a light-ship. I cannot boast of a knowled_
the requisites of such a ship, bUt she must, I suppose
capable of carryinz a certain weight of mooring chain, lan-
terns aloft, and ballast below. Ido not know the exact dif-
ference of buoyancy between a wooden and an iron vessel,
but we will suppose the difference to be considerably (the
amount does not matter in this case) in favour of the buoy-
ancy of the latter. Now we have a certain weight to be
carried, and the vessel to carry it will be exposed to the ac-
tion both of wind and tide ; and, therefore, the greater area
she exposes to their force, the more likely will she be to
break from her moorings. We may construct the vessel
either of wood or iron. A vessel constructed of the latter
is allowed to be more buoyant than one made of the former
material, and ought, if she is to carry the same weight, tc
be of less size, and would therefore expose a smaller area'tc
the force of wind and tide; and I cannot conceive that any
good reason can be assigned why a wooden vessel, adapted
to the load she is to carry, should be more steady than an
iron one_p_roperly adapted to her load. There is one point
more

Wotild the decrease in size of the iron vessel be ob-
jectionable ? If so, and she must, for any reason with which
am not acquainted, be built of the same size as the wooden
one, much of the benefit of her greater buoyancy would be
lost, but still some would remain, as her weight, being more
in ballast, would the better balance the weight and leverage
of her lanterns aloft.

Should you be kind enough to give insertion to the above
observations, and my view of the case should prove a wrong
one, some one will perhaps take the trouble to point out the
fallacy of it, and at the same time give their reasonings upon
the subject, one step will then be made on the road to truth.
—Your obedient servant, _ .

IS WILLING TO LEARN
April 27th, 1842.

ARMY CHAPLAINCIES.—The sum of £ll,OOO only
charged in the army estimates for divine service. .

lished c

.nd the cour
.nd Cartniel

Cheshir

Rebuildings

Enlarg

copal chl
purchase

Congleton

CROCKFOItD'S Cum—This celebrated club, which since
the secession or retirement of the proprietor, Mr.'William
Crockford, from the establishment, has been managed by a
committee of noblemen and gentlemen, of whom a noble earl,
residing in May-fair, and a distinguished foreign count are
said to be the leading members, now consists of only 600
members, as we are informed. Francatelle, late maitre d'
hotel at Buckingham Palace,
now fills the office of chef de
cuisine to the, club. Mr. Crockford has purchased or taken
the splendid mansion on Carlton-terrace, adjoining the Mar-
quis Cholniondeley's, where he enjoys his' otiunt cum digni-
tate.

CHESTER DIOCESAN CHURCH BUILDING

SOCIETY

rd to acc
41

astic Statistics have been drawn up
,uracy as the yet partially pub-
, and other convenient sources of in-
formation permit, and for all practical purposes may be as-
sumed to be correct. The Cheshire part of the Diocese com-
prehends the county of Chester, and parts of Denbigh and
Flint :—the Lancashire part, the county of Lancaster, and
Darts of Cumberland and Westmorland.

Population and number of Resident Clergy
1831. 1841. 1841.
Inhabitatits. Clergy.

shire, &c. 1,437

Cheshire, &c

Z. Chur

Churches in 1801. 1811. 1821

Lancashire 336

Of the 143 churc

Church

Accomm

and Sc
. 1831

lon
cnurche

72 eases of er

it is 705 sit

cent or

>ittings in wholepo
1831. 11841. pulation

41. Schools in 1841
Daily. Sund
17 195 218
IG 533 620

65111,411
117

14 ,- e
,
o 3 o
1 (
l 1

2 have been
Society, 35 are Epis-

.ly new,

...houses

s of old churches

fully.. reaches

693 :7and the

gement equal mos

;chigol-rooms licensed
;his amount of provi-
the 693 churches and
ngs in each. • Cheshire

s •in connection
and places ; and

aools in manufac-

•e, 284,37

1 with Population

Increase If
1841,

per cent

Population. Sittings
19 29-1-

The number of additional sittings provided in the last de-
cade is 118,427 :—the church room in Cheshire is 26 per
cent. and in Lancashire 21 per cent. on the entire population ;
and the increase in sittings over the increase of population in
Cheshire is 101 per cent. and in Lancashire 8 per cent.
4. State of some of the principal Towns and Parishes of
Cheshire. •

'opulation in Sitin
1831 1841 18311

cent.lpopulation

,eCr 182 121 per cent

ton Norris

a, and Br edbury—not Edgeley

f some of the principal Towns al

Parishe

f Lancashire

Proportion

Population in I Sittings in Increase on entire
1831. I 1841. . 1831. I 1841.iper cent. population
Liverpool, Toxteth Park, Everton, Kirkdale.

pop.l sitt

196,3511277,0611,38,636148,5851 41
Birkenhead, Tranmere, Wallasey
6,4741 17,0281 2,5401 4,4801 1601 76

251 17