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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

MOUSZ OP COMMOWS, TarnsaAv, MAY 11.

A VTIGUA.—Mr. Alderman WOOL) presented a pe-
tition from certain Planters in Antigua, stating that
they had more slaves than employment for them ; and-
praying that leave might he granted to bring in a Bill
to enable them to remove those slaves to some other
Colony.—lteferred to a Committee.
AngierLTUAL DISTS2IIB.—Mr. TR IL MAYNE pre-
sented a petition from the County of Corns all ; Mr.
PoKTMAs, two petitions from Dorsetslore ; Mr. Dro•
DAIS, II petition from the County of Warwick ; Sir E.
KNATCaIICLL, apetition from the neighbourhood of Fa-
versham, and another from the neighbourhood of
Sandwich, in Kent ; and Mr. HONTWOOD, a petition from
the County of Kent, complaining of the great distress
experienced by the agricultural interest, and praying
for an inquiry into the best mode of granting relief.—
The petitions were all ordered to lie on the table.

UEIVIIRAL POST OIIICE MID DUTT OS CO 41,5.--Sir
IV. CURTIS presented the Report of the Committee
to whom had been referred for consideration the peti-
tion from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Co paretic*:
of the City of London, praying to be allowed to raise
a further sum for the complvtion of the improvenseuts
at the west end of the City. The Hon. Baronet
moved "That the Report be referred to a Committee
of the whole House."
Mr. H. SUMNER objected to this proposition. The
sum 01140,000 i. had already bees *receded hi dial;
Ise dui site for the sew Past Office, and now the Uitg,
applied for 100,0001. more; of which 33,000/. was to
be charged on the Orphan Fund. It was well known
that that Fund was principally supported by the Duty
on Coals and Cohn imported into London. This duty,
already 13s. 4d. a chaldron, fell most heavily on the
population (and especially on the lower classes), net
only of the metropolis, hut of the surrounding dis-
tricts; and now a measure was proposed, which would
occasion the addition of a shilling a chaldron to the
duty. When it was considered that the sum which
bad been already voted teas on an estimate of the whole
expence, said to be accurately made, he thought it
was the duty of the House to call for detailed accounts
of the expenditure, and to refer them to the eternisa-
tion of a Select Committee. 0.1 recollection, the first
part of this proposition would, he believed, be accom-
plished by the motion which had been made on the
*abject the other evening by an Honourable Member
"UMW ; to accomplish the latter, he would move as
ins Amendment to the mules of the Honourable Bart.
Se leave out all the words after the words " That the
Report be referred to," for the purpose of substituting
the following.—" A Select Committee, to whom it shall
be referred to examine the accounts of the sums already
expended, and to examine the estimates on which the
additional grant is required."
Sir W. CURTIS had no sort of objection to send the'
Accounts to a Select Committee, as he was persuaded
they would bear exanduation; but it appeared to him
that such a proceeding, on the Report of another
Committee, would be contrary to the rules of the
House. As to the facts of the can they were simply
these—that unfortunately the money did not go far
eseegh--•-that a variety of eiertuustances bad increased
the upeiditers beyond the anticipated asio__4othat
there were at pusses thirty or forty thousand polar
to pop for .hl' them were no assets.
Mr. Aldo rmnik WOOD had no aods• fitarimr
to accede tet die motion for sending tie Aeeerll•M *
Select Committee for examination. The
Member for Surrey had frequently touched ea MN sub.
jest of the Duty on Coals, het had never been able to
make a successful impression on the House. What
nevoid be the effect of the present proposition on the
Hoe. linstleuesses emsetinhests ? That some thirty
years hence they w uld pays shilling a ehalaron more,
for their coals than at present! That for which they
would so pay, would Le also as great an advantage to
them as to other people. I nitead of the narrow con-
fined Ares* is which coaches and carts were ROW Some-
doss detained for two or three hours, fine wide streets
would be opened, a circumstance which bad tee eon-'
nixie* with the New Pon-effite. This street would
show St. Petal's in a nobler gait of view than It bad
bees yet sets hem the north rood. The Worthy Al-
io:man Wee sacred into a variety of details with
=lochs, ospoidhure for the purposes in question,
Awl the mess of that expenditure over the
^intiondles to Amiss hawing gimes lamer amopeneations
than wesoantleipatesi, and other inevitable mums. No.
esto g
insam wen be desirable dap that the Accosts,'
exmainell ti a Select Cmeneittee.
Alm a short conversatioe respecting the point of
lems, in which the Cstascrtama of the Itteemtuse,
the 41ructunt, Mr. H. Sonnan, and Sir W.. Come
participated, Sir V. Curtis withers his migismi ear

A Y 12, 1826.

ield, and SYDNEY died on the

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lira, and Mr. H. Susi mtvt's motion was agreed to in
the following shape :
," That the Report be referred to a Select Committee. 6)-
011 w with the Aerostats of the Expenditare, and the Esti-
mates on which the Additional °rent is required, to report
the same, with their observations thereon lathe House:*
A Select Committee for the purpose was then ap-
peinted.

FOrITD BARON OT TIE SECO EQVER fN SCOTLAND.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHNCER, in
enti4equence of the inability of his Noble Friend to
attend in his place that day, requested the Noble I,ord
oppnsite, who had given notice of a motion respecting
the appointment of a Fourth Baron of the Exchequer
in Santlead, to postpone it. His Noble Friend had
beeiin hopes that Ir^ should have been able to come

.41citiit to tit; &lute today, bet was disappointed. He
WAS apprehensive that to-morrow would b. ton soon to
expect his strength to Be sufficiently restor..d to en-
able him to return to his Parliamentary duties; but
by Monday, he trusted that he should again be able to
resume his post.
Lord A. HAMILTON felt it impolsible not to ac-
quiesce in the Right Hon. Gentleman's request. lie
would therefore fix his motion for Monday ; hoping,
however, that he should have the precedence on that
day of any ordinary lousiness.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (as we
understood the Right Hon. Gentleman) a. ceded to this
understanding.
Lord A. HAMILTON observed, that some misap-
prehension appeared to exist as to the nature of his
motion. As the Learned Lord Advocate had inti-
mated to him in private, that he had no objection to
the production of the warrant of appointment, some
Hon. Members 'night he disposed to vote fur that paper
without connecting with it the merits of the general
wiestion. He gave notice, therefore, that he would so
frame his motion, as to comprehend in it the consi-
deration of the merits of the general question. He
preowned, that if the Noble Lord should not be able
to attend on Monday, the Right Hon. Gentleman would
not expect hilts again to postpone his motion ?
The CHANCELIANI of the EXCIIEQUER's reply
TM inaudible.
COLCIM rtm AND enn.stsronn.—Adm. HARVEY
presented a pctition, praying that the Quarter Ses-
sions of Colchester and Chelmsford might be divided.
After a Aso words from Mr. W. HARVEY, and a
short explanation from the Gallant Admiral, the peti-
tion was referred to a Committer.

MANUIPACTV RING DIIITIMPPIIIS.Mr. S. WORTLEY
pre‘ented a petition from the Mannfio:turers end other
Inhahhants, residing in one of the most populoul
plans ks. Sits osamifiseterring district of the West
!tiding .1 iiireirehise,..6ho-parish of Kirkeataa. cess-

pitsietiesg a iiisimsrunk aftribstiog that distress poi*.
tipsily to the duties on wool. lie would read to the
House a paragraph from the petition, to show the se-
vere nature of the distr. ss experienced, premising that
the petition came from persons as well disposed to the
support of Government as the inhabitants of any part
of the island. The Hon. Gentleman re d the passage
in question, which declared that the distress of the
petitioners was great beyond example, and that they
could not better illustrate its severity than by a refer-
ence to the state of the poorer manufacturers in the
parish, el seven or eight thousand of whom, seventeen
knedred bad on an average earned, during the present
year, only.eleven-pence a week each. The petitioners
rayed tbit the House would take the state of the
coantry ince their most serious consideration, and above
all, that they would do something to relieve the un-
fortunate manufacturers, and to give them bread.—
Ordered to be printed.
ELECTION EITITIONE.—The SPEAKEK having in-
quired lhbere were any Election Petitions to be pre-
sented, no less than twenty were immediately given
into the hands of the Clerk. Of these, the petitions
from Bishop's Castle and Truro, being fur double re-
turns, were fixed to be first taken into consideration ;
the appointment of the others was determined by lot.
They stand as follows :
Bishop's-castle, Tuesday, May an; Truro. Thursday.
June 1 ; Peterstield, Tuesday, June tit Ipswich. Tuesday.
Jima 13; Bt. hes. Thursday. June II; Nottingham, Toes-
da7, June 90; Westsslester (petitioner. Mr. Boyce Connate),
Tuesday. June SO; Maidstone. Th 77 has if; COW
bridge. Thursday. June IS; Vol . y,JuneW7;
Wootten Basset, Tuesday, June 27; a. Thursday, June
SP; Cosentry (petitioner, Mr. W. ), Thursday, Jens
111; Grandma, Tuesday. July 4; Chaster, Tuesday.Jely 4;
Walliagford. Thursday, July 6; Abeedeeo. Timrsday. July 61
us* (petitioner, Mr. C. Bryant), Tuesday. July li ;
soy. Taseilay, July II; Tretorty, Tbsiebday, July 13.
NDON•EIIIDGE.--Mr. Alderman WOOD gave no-
de; that he would to-morrow move for a Committee to
inytheinto the state of London-bridge.
Mr. DAWSON presented a petition from Mr. Ts-
lends* Blake (ef Galway). Petitioner stated, that
having petitioned against the retorts of 3h. Prentice-
gest for the town, he had complied with the terms pre-
scribed by the House, that of giving to the peeper of-
firer a return of the recognizance. which he meant to
eater into; but, in consequence of Mr. Prendergast
not saving taken his seat, and he not having, te ;legi-
timates knowledge, any residence in Great Britain, he
was enable to serve him with the notice required by
order of the House. He therefore prayed that the
time for serving inch notice be farther extended.
After a few Words from Mr. DAWSON,
Mr. W. WYNN moved that the Aeseintions of Fe-1
brnary, 1819, en the tBtb of George 111., be mad.
The Resolutions were read. They enacted; that is
ease, of trial of Contested Elections, the petitioning'
peril should give notice of the recognisaaces into
whirls they meant to enter, and that their agents
should attend for that purFoie. Alan, that petition*'
Ishould also give notice of the time and place of Inch'
recoculaances, to the party petitioned against, or his
agent; and if, on net aiding such parties, further time
should be grouted, it would be 'packet that the pe-
titioner skald glee seven days' notice to the Clerk oil
the Howse of Cimino's*, of the recognisance* to be ow
Meld into.

PRICE SEVEN PENCE.

On the motion of Mr. DAWSON, peltionet 's agent
WS% called in.

In mistier to questions from the &MAIM, he ‘a:(1
his.newne win Green, and that he attended as the aget.t
of Mr. V: Blake. He was then ordered to withdrxw,
and the time of 'erring the notice was extended to
Monday se'anfght.
MICIIIIQUER RILLS.
Mr. MABERLY Pose for the purpose of making
the motion of which he had some days since giver.
no:iee. But before he did en, he hoped the Ho4lle
would indulge him in a few r.bxervations on the re-
el nt financial system. It would be in the recollection
of the House, that in the last Parlia.neut the Chancel-

for of the Excheqaer had stated his intention of pro-
pos* a paresaaest systems of tastaidon fur the saprart
of the public credit. Now he could not help saying, thut
the system then adopted by the Right lion. tientlemaa
turned out to be a complete failure. It was, in far .
a departure from what the Right Hon. Member }
posed to do, and particularly as to the issae of Exfht
quer Bills. His decided opinion was, that the present
system of temporal expedients ought to be pat an eau
to. The welfare of the country required the adopt:cc,
of a permanent system of finance. The Right H' o
Member had last year stated, that *here would rems:z

of the old revenue a sntn of two :pillions, whirls, with

the new taxes, would make a Sinking Fund of fit•
millions. Such a sum as a Sinking Fund would,
his opinion, be sufficient to support the public credit
But was there such a sum actually applicable to ti;•
purpose ? and how, he would ask, did the Right Hur
lientleman last year propose to raise it? He levi.
new taxes in such a way as to throw the pressure
the working classes of society, not only by taxing the
articles which they consumed, but also by that inn
impolitic tax, the duty on wool. He should alway. 4

oppose any tax on the raw material. This one, i

particular, was of an injurious tendency, as by pre-
venting the importation of the article, it tlep.ited t ,c
labourer of employment. The Right lion. fient!•
man was told of this when the tax was imposer!, hot iie
was of a different opinion. This tax, however, ha.i

failed. He did not blame the Chan Fella: of the Ex-
chequer for any failure of the revenue. He lielieve.l
the Hight Hun. Gentleman expected, when heti:tiptoe.;
the new taxes, that they would be productive. hut
he was surprised that the Chancellor slc.ul I hero
come down in February, last year, knowing, as be
must have known at the time, that the revenue tia.
deficient ; that the imports were less by 6,0441,00 U. ,
and the exports by 10,000,0001., than they were ti e
Preceding year; Ile was alarpziaml doe% kiriswirrg Mt*,
the Eight H•tn. Gentleman should have come to Par-
liament with a statement that we were to have as
ci-
fretive Making Maid of 5,000,000 f. Ihe inapirti
and exports might have increased.or decreased, but cm
Right Hon. Member, with such a prospect before
emit have known that there could not be an availahM
Sinking Fund to that amount. The total revenue,
ordinary and extraordinary, up to sth April, !nib,
was 50,388,2481. The expenditure of that year was
49,448,8991., leaving (as we understood the Hon.
Member), after making good the deficiency, a Sinking
Fund of 919,340/. These statements were not taken
from the financial statements of the Right Hon. Mem-
ber, but from the accounts placed on the table of the
receipts and expenditure of the year. lie trusted they
would be found correct. From this it would be seen
that the boasted Sinking Fund of 5,000,110t1. was
merely nominal. He believed he had been mistaken in his
asienleion. The real Sinking Fund would be found
to be no more than 395,3144 The House would me,
on comparing the revenu, of lag year with that of
this year, up to the sth of January, 1820, that there
was a falling off. in th.• former year the revenue, up
to the sth of January, was 49,056,593/. his has, np
to the mum period, it was 48,2118,17 U., leavin a de-
ficiency of 848,41141., and lithe deficiency of Ireland
was taken, he believed it would be 1,000,000!. This
was a matter of the most serious importance, and called
for the consideration of the House. The Right don.
Member said there was a deficiency of 13,400,000 L,
and for this purpose a loan was provided to reduce de
unfunded debt. A sum of 104,000!. was advanced,
but he believed that, notwithstanding this, the debt
was cot reduced. lie would nut, however, detain the
House on this part of the subject; but he Ives sur-
prised to find that, notwithstanding the advance et
10,400,0001., the increase of the outstanding and un-
redeemed debt, from the bth of January, 1810, to
January, IfiltU, was 9,698,0d0f. This was a system
of expedients which could not last. Yet this was net
the only inconvenience arising from this system. Tho
Right Hon. Gentleness had, last year, a sacs of
2.0611.010/. to pay off the interest of otiaaaadiag Ex-
chequer Bilis; but for 10 montane he bad bertha, as
appeared by the accounts, to pep any Wisest. If the
Eight lies. lieetimeme winked to sappers the public
credit he wadi at Wet pay the isomer of these bills
regularly. Me barged that, at se blear pease was it
known that the interest on Ezebelseellills bad remised
'so long unpaid. Last year the Rt. Hon.Mendlerbeenght
in a Ell, enabling the Beak to adman
on the growing iseeste of the Consolidatedagarrle
was never intended that the Bank should upee4ll oc-
casions be called farm to sake good lock defelessien.
If this system was to be carried on, it wail lead to
most dangerous remake. Be believed the Ceseelitleted
Fend was sow in &near 8.000,110 W. If the Moose
went on as it had dime, there would be as adlidood
delkiettcy, probably ot 1,000,0001. on the July lime-
ter. This would soasiderohly to the ukase,* to
be made kr the Beek, width woold den be 10,100,00 W.
If the dell&ney was to eentleme, tbro the Bask mast
be called upon again is October. Slopped/4 Nis
system to p ea, sad that the &breaded of ear ear-
resey, or any other cieemnsisneo. were to row • ran
on the Bank, what would ho the consequeace ? The
Beak would, el coarse, be obliged to take care of their
'ow. interests, and that of their friends. They cud
not issue 10,11110,11001. er 15,009,00 W. of their own

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