The Statesman.
London, England, 1813-11-12 00:00:00

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wined, be found thus 'allowing IWO guineas for each part if the scale.
without such a proportion of me" as Witt res tto the extent to which it Might be pro.
necessary for carrying on the system of recruiting, , t pec
_ live tovernment the power of ,
and form, as it were the basis of Cie regiment.- . dent to give the
His intention .was to propose its the 8111 which he receiving offers
_ f 'the Militia, be -wit not dis-
meant to bring in, that in the number of men posed to • posh-the 11l insure beyond what might be
who might volunteer into the army, not more considered a healthful exertion for the country. He
than three-fourths of any regiment should be taken, was aware that tbe to were various important dutiet
and that one-fourth part, at least, of Amery NA. for the flatlets services to perform at home, in the of
uncut should be preserved. He thought-it advisable the interior. the amount of force which he was
sot to check the disposition which prevailed in the disposed to take, would not, he conceived, operate
Militia of entering absolutely into the Line, because as an unreasonable pressure on the country. He
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in no wise could duty be so usefully employed as in should propose, to take the quota which,
the Line, which was a more extended species of ser- isting law* regulating the entrance from the Militia
vice. o was . Aspesed, therefore, not to Impede • into theListe will placed beyond ali.hazard,*and also
that mode of serving, but by a small additional a number aphiliti the quota for the me:weeding year;
bauitty to encourage it, and if a certain number of and lie had further te propose, that the arrears of the
men would go, to allow Officers to go out with numbers allowed to volunteer in former years might
then. He was happy to state, that in theuagment now be made good. The annual quota from the
of his Royal Highness the Commander iu Chief, no Militia to the Line, amounted to 10,000--thedouble
i ejury whatever would accrue to the army by allow- gimlet would, therefore, be 50,000-and the arrears
ing the Officers of the Militia, up to the rank. of of former yeas might be stated at 6000-making, in
Captain, to pass into the Line and to receive half. the whole 26,000; and that -was the whole extent
say. llis Retell Highness approved also of. giving of .the .lumbers' whiCh. it was now ptoposed to
them this lartber advantage, that after a certain time take. The House Would see what was the nature of
of service they should be considered as Officers hat- the supply which this measure, if it succeeded to the
ing permanent rank in the army corresponding to expectations- formed of it, would require. Suppos-
the rank which they held in the Militia. In the sing the measereetteprodace 26 or 27,000 men, and
first instance, they were to receive half-pay, and af. that the ordinary recruiting did not fall off from the
ter tome time permanent rank in the aptly. Tha usual niantbereof 14;000,- the Government welibi be
number of individuals admitted to their advantages enabled to realize 40,000 men, exclusive 'of tfitles.
would bit in proportion to the number titaneo whoe Cleats for, the foreign regimentte Ile bad lifriliiify
went with them into the army : 100 nies&Wrlmit ono stated - the average waste of our unity for theeiset,
Captain, one Lieutenant, and onnEnsige, who, at -, fear yeart to have been 23,000 men, lied that the LAW INTELLIGENCE.
first, would be entitled to pelf-pay, and after has. I waste of this yetfr might be presumed to amount to : -rm.- .
log served one campaign, to fill every, situation of 30,900:e Be sbo*id In this manner be taking pro- COURT OF KING'S BENCH, Nov. 11.
the army. lie had thus been endeavouring testate i dest and proper pretautiontefor the proper supply of • SIDIFON V. BAZETT.
the advantages of a transfer of service into the , outerrety. Such a supply was indisPensiblet in or. Lord Etelesoaouou delivered the judgment of
Line ; but there was no ground to resume that the t deer that the treat acquisitions which .we had been the Court in this case, which was an action on a po-
class of men disposed to transihr their services would, 'stabled twmake might not he committed to hazard, licy of insurance on goods to any port or 'ports in
be found so numerous as to afford any_ thing like' andlbet the Executive of the country might have the 'the Baltic, with liberty to land, re-ship, &c. in any
what the exigencies of .the present moment demand.; *poteer.of strikiqg some important blow in an ante- ' of the ports of Sweden, with liberty also to carry
ed. He had, therefore, another plan to propose, of *tang quarter, when occasions, should admit of it. ; emulated papers, the risk to continue in the port or
encouraging the desire of active service id, the Mi. At no period in• the histoirtif this•country had them; Oath of destination, and until the goods were safely
litia, which• was more congenial with the principle jiver been so great a proportion of ode regulai,:fotwes : Warehoused inthe warehouses of_ the.insurers, war-
pf that body, and which would liberate a great employed abotates there note was ; and that por- ; ranted free from British condemnation, bitt not from
;mother of hot l- officers and' men desirous of ex- tion of.ouitelituayeithich was stetioned at borne was - the consequence of British condemnation. The fr
•a, THOMASWESTBROOK, a Prisoner for Deg
tending their Al-vices. lie proposed that they should reduceil .telemPhover limits than ever., p V'ottvith- i property was found to be in, Prussian subjects, and confined in his Majesty's Prison otiLudiate, and late of Union-
also
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also be permitted to volunteer to serve as Militia- standing Illtetettleat happy temper of the country, , the loss arose from seizure aid- condemnation by stied, Poplar, Middlesez,•Oral ain the name and description
I of. l'hoinas Westbrook, Yeoman; and formerly of Saint Agnes
men. The Officers would be considered as still., which was •is the enjoyment of the blessings of the'. Court of Berlin, in the port of Colberg,
eTodm'astreestrcrirLoaknd
belonging to the Militia of their country ; but they ;plenty, of the tatisfactian derived from its exertions, whither they had been consigned to Prussian 00171106 e herebyrieoluttastther:o°ntue
ar
giveand d
under,es c r i)-
would return• home with this advantage, that hay- 'ernd the piosperity which flowed from its industry, subjects by tip Plaintiffs, who were subjects ! that on the 13th day of.Oetober, 1813, 1 presented my petition,
schedule, and oath to the Court
.for the Relief of insolvent
inn gone abroad at a critical period they Would be i setemPer of public mind congenial to Englishmen •of Great %%tip. A special verdict was entered. ! Debtors, at No. 6, Carey-street, Lincoln's lon praying to be
citified, on tieing disembodied, to the half-pay still' it Would be unsuitable in the Executive Goei in which theefacts of the case were set out for the ' discharged from custody upon all process, and to have future
loinirbspurtecsylijof3o,amanysndpien;grsocaruiedltatoihrsaue,tdoethmareasdnemallndsinf
ainlifoodierr wbith
p I am now
of the army. lie thought there would be a great vertiment, however slight grounds there might" fie : opinion of the Court ; it was agreed that the act of ,
disposition among the Militia to go 011 this ser-ifoe apprehensions of danger, to run any risks lay t, condemnation took place on the part of the Court Of i i to be my calredamed
ditorvi,
vice ; they would go as Militiamen, and they stripping the country of the _number of troops. ae- i Berlin, which had acceded to the continental system -. is toy schedule annexed to my said petitioa t• and the said peti-
would; ti?ln, oath, and schedule have been fitee in the said Conti t
continue to have all the advantages of 111*. cessary for the preservation of the public tranquillity. I of France, for the exclusion of British property, by
Mimeo. A man would be enabled to serve his Daring the lime for which the plan of enlisting for 1 which all property, without distinction, was to be' pmt I t;t rOunt :hnat eb
sealli eaTir.:4l.ethsariler&d;t,`ltileo binotelde°lif (beet satliide
country ahrread 'without leaving his wife in want at i the Militia had been adopted, 32,000 had been tithed I considered as British which came from a British port; ' entidhatt of the City of Westminster, on Tuesday,. the 7th day
o„ifil).cocuil;tbr)ratnhezut,d.oetlh&bottlor ldloile, inctteh.mornsent-i
home. I. England, indeed, all decriptions of pee- for that body, cr about 10,000 men annually. • Frets i audit was admitted to be a known fact, that at the y ri ; aullt'bzu
pie were entitled, in exigency, to relief from their pa-ithis system having been so successful at the-ordinary , time of executing the policy in question, all direct Fardell, of Poplar, butcher ; —Pe giok, Santos-hie, furni i•••
rish, but in Ireland and Scotland there was no parish Ii rate of exertion,. he trusted that enough men mighthe commerce with British ports was prObibited ; but tore-broker; - Ford, Poplar, baker; -- Doubleday,
support. it was, therefore, proposed that this class, : seised to cover the draughts into the line, without re. I yet, that a great trade was careied on by means of, ratarexicrer, rb—rewer 4 kinver,y
aPnoilt,whyreirektlir Barge-
who who were merely a ditposible Militia, Should continue ' sorting to the very onerous proceedings -ctinnected simulated papers, and, -it was farther admitted, that' hmese, Blackfriars, coutmeichants; Pres 6 Granger, Narrow-
ta possess all theltdralltages of Militiamen, and that I with a ballot. At all events, he was • tatisfied that !I the premium was 105 guineas to insure '2501. As the road,trt,
•Rmelille-er?s, eoal-mercbant ; -- Gandhian, New.
at. tkorge-in-tbe-East, baker • -- Moorbouse, Leo-
the Officers •as alteady stated, should ha re also the there would be no °scent, for any ballot, except at ! goods in question Were not destined for, nor import- Bd:square, surgeon ; Iloughtun,'
Great Bell-alley. hoot
advantage Of halepay. With respect to the manner `a period so remote as to allow a proceeding of this, ed into a hostile country, all consideration as to the ruidobucivii,L,t, ; Cawood and Perry, Whiteehapel. c al-terr-
in which they ought to be organized, and rendered ! nature, without any extraordinary pressure on the : licence fell to the ground : nod the payment of the
#4.hautsts! Shirley and and ';;lcslVV,Uttiar"winj:lawneiliebrauulyh-ratneth-ants;
useful, the precise rule to be applied could not be : country ; for example, not until the expiration of I loss in question was resisted by the underwriters, on - Laker, Fore-street, tailor: Bent, Stang; to all, Lim.
well laid down, till they saw what disposition ex- I the Bill which he should propose, which would be ; the authority of the cases of Conway and Davison ii..tk, victuallerci—t lir (mined liticiltimerstit,itfiy,vthtoulaellat le vsnodollen-
isted in-the Militia to extend their services, and what ,at the end of a year from next Christmas.-He trust.; and Gray, and Conway and Forbes, which pro.. Armapcser, i's opktr, apetThecary ; cereditor- reanitd in in}74sChedule.
offers mire be made. As it was not, however, I ed, however, that by the increased exertion of the I ceeded on this principle that a man cannot re. with notice of my application in manner directed by the Act
meant to allow the whole of any regiment to extents Lieutenancy and Gehtry of the different counties, ; cover for any less occasioned by an act of his tolL. Psvaipau:tiTlotni a
oath,that bealniadlfshtzidutatteo:leerrede;4 thattiinltti,cned
no:
their service, the proportions accepted would be , that the Militia might be supplied by men raised by ; own government, to tetech he must be consider- reeete; Lei in'the two Newspapers caned the Sr .tikslt AN and
formed into provisional battalions of Militia for fo- ; heat of drum, without resorting at all to the ballot.' ed as privy. The question - then was, if there the Morning Advertiser, of which my said creditors liereiobe-
reign service; the sphere of their service would be ' He conceived that he had sufficiently explained the were not such circumstances of variance between fore named are hereby required tprlit)ebinLieveiEsTßßooli.
limited to Europe, and the command of the battalions I grounds on which the Bill was founded, and the me. the present case and those of Conway and Gray, _ .
given to Militia Officers. He knew there were reget
tires iii the abstract which led to it, respecting which and Conway and Forbes, as called upon the ,
JAWS FORSIeTII
events in the Militia service who were impatient to ! there could be but one feeling in the House ;he - Court to draw a distinction between those cases and i 1,
ed in his ,
Ludate, and late of No. 49,
a Prisoner for Debt,
go abroad as regiments, and disposed to sacrifice any should therefore close, by desiring to be distinctly i the present ? The Court was of opinion that such conindfinisaiky,i Majesty's prison of
is
the city of London, and
-using the name and de-
thing rather titan derogate from their integrity ah re. understood as to the point which he had stated at the circumstances did exist, and that such distinction seription of Jrunet Forsyth. Baker, do hereby give notice, that
&moots. He was perfectly well swam of the dis- outset of his speech ; that the Government did not ought fo be drawn. There could be no question, so; in etZleiStahndboya;thf October,'
ttohb:reMluBrlt3foritirlf enlieedf loill I pet:iis tv4ei: i
advantage of separating one part of a regiment from I wish to appeal to the public spirit, or individual feel- that previous to the war with America an insurance Debtors, at No. 6, Carey-street, Liocoln's-lon, praying to be
another, and of doing any thing which had a tender-iings of any of the Militiamen, but merely to with.. might have been made-of American property against litclurtutid from custody Ilya:it:it:el proce:fianndsltaZiyaegiftinoturew
cy to extinguish the Esprit cits Corp.. Giving every I draw obstacles' hich prevented them at present front I American embargo; and that a man might even in-
allowance to this:feeling, still, however, he was not din I following the berg of their own natural inclination sure against his own acts, if underwriters chose to in custody,emaynd4)eagainvattbelisdeamds.otall other persons named
or specified as my creditors, or as claiming to be my creditors,
posed to think thatthese provisional battalions would Ito serve their 'country.; and that the Executive was I take on themselves such a risk. In the cases of Con- ginonmeascaltahre ualnedu n ne:delt o
lima
, teSibiede dile: ni I. the ,said tialieilt„Pllellii;
be found, on comparison, to be less effective than other desirous of holding out all fair encouragement to way and Gray, and Conway and Forbes, no such whereupon the said Court bath ordered, that the matter of the
regiments. Lord Wellington gave it as his opinion, any men desiroas of so doing. His Lordship con- risk as that by which the losses were occasioned atidletition shall be heard in the said Court, to be boltdhetal.:
that some of the most effective battalions under his eluded by moving for leave to bring in a Bill, to wan contempAted at the time the insurance was
command,. were formed of -three or four reduced . allow his Majesty to accept the services if a certain effected. Here, 'however, on the contrary, it ; and the mid Court bath judged it to dispense with my ,e.rviug
tdheaytolufliDdiVemi ferthreseCatityautf:e hourli
ofrsainoen inu theaym'ort:ing:
regiments, and somatintes a greater number, who . portion of the Militia out of the kingdom, for the wu found, by the terms of the special ver-llohn Wilma*
I and Brook Paddington, Sour-factors ; Joseph Bell, Inheld,
were thrown together info one battalion, instead of ' vigorous prosecution of the war. ' diet, that the existence of such a risk- as that by lof Streatham, In Surrey, schoolmaster ; Billing
Middlesex. Moor-factor ; John Jennings. Vi'imlsor, brewer;
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sending them home to be recruited to their proper es- Leave having been given, - which the loss was occasioned, and not only known : Jobs Twin, Ware, alerts, minor; Samuel Welch, Braughing.
tablishment. There were not more effeetive bathe. Lord cAsT LER &WU said, that, be should' contemplated, bet that there was no possibility I streek,eri, It
Iclerk;liller Miller; Bjrldnees''at hMunessit, ilOn‘rV-cet.os;;B"huPW.ers.
lions in the whole army than those which were so bring in the Bill to-morrow (this day), and contrive! of carrying un the trade without running that risk ; I Wandsworth, SurreLiat.„miitert - Phillips, Ewell. Surrey. miller;
fityoloformed. It ought to be left to the discretion of the I that it should then be delivered, so that it might be ;on that account was the property in question endea- William Florham, '
Commanding Officer, Whether the Field-Officers ' brought to a second reading on an early day iu the ' toured to be protected by the carrying of simulated Constable,
lonSlitadGo„ Thames, :if r rbrmrun is Corporation
spia I --
should -
lane, Wo al.wl <sills, fi.osisr;actotr;;M. and
should betaken front the Militia or the Line • 'bat in ' next week. - I papers; and it was clearthe risk was meant to be in- Gould, Fleet-lane, baker; -\-- Seabrook., Duke-street.
all cases the Lieutenant-Colonel ought to be taken Mr. WHITBREAD said, acres the table, that lured in the only way ip which the trade could be welt Smithfield, butcher; John Lltlin. Snow-bill,l)",c`t!mc°!,;
from the' Mtlitia, that thecharacter of-Militia sigh. ethere.were some perm of the Noble Lard's (Castle- carried oh, from the enormous premium milkers named in in% schedule, with notice of my ap.p.w.l) ;id
never directed by the Act of Parliament its that s half; a
paid, bring
ments might not be lost. lie had ocCaslieiloltnow, mash) 'statement, ,Water deeded a little eeeptrusalreede veletas to. covet Oisee-eledgmeut was according ,vilenatideteil, tiarnatice et sheoseidlieset!en, oadr, and mberlole.
that iu Ireland provisional battalions, of a descrip. tion. lilt; Lordship had not distinguished between 3)' given for the Plahatiff. ' . be Wetted in the London Gazette, end in the two Newspapers
called the STA/Emus; and the Merging Advertiser, of whirls
tion like that kehad been stating, were found to be in. .the ten guinea and the twelve guinea bounty-men, • • UAGEDON V. BAZETT. ass said creditors hereinbeforc-named are hereby required te
ferior to no etoops in all the qualities rot which sot- as it did not appear, by his Lordshiy's statement's HIS Lordship likewise pronounced the Judgment tale Deice.
diets are valued. All the difficulties which frightened for what term the ten guinea-area, the Militia-then ,of the Court in' this case. It was an action on a po-
ur ancestors, and which were important at one time serving abroad, were to be kept on foreign service-Ince of insurance on goods for which a. licence had
iu meet of privilege, ought now to be lost and swal. As to the term-" one campaigns"-=he • (Mr. W.) been granted to the Plaintiff, end other British or
lowed up in the necessity for exertion imposed on supposed that some specific time would be tviendoeed, ' Foreign Neutral Merchants. It eppeared in evi-
ea by the present times. The great principle which as forming a campaign, to entitle the Militia; who . deuce,. that the property insured Was partly British
ought now to be borne in mind was, that we were' h; ' served abroad, to half-pay. lie wished to un- partly the property of Ifamburghers, and partly the
struggling in the defence of our own liberty, and delete/1d also, whether it was meant that the rani- property of Russians,- Russia being then a nation in
the liberty of Europe. Fragments of regiments and lies of the ten guinea-men were to remain chaigeable : hostility to thit. country. These were the whole of
minute partsateregiments might be brought together, to the parish, while the families of the twelve guinea- the facts, as they appeared on the special 'verdict!i
and used as Militia, with as great advantage as whole men were not ? Did his Lordship state that a don. ; which had been entered, subject to the opinion of
regiments. *Mod they would not be discouraged tale propentbe wield be called out from the Militia,' the Court, on two objettlens which had been taken: '
in undertakeegalyt great effort which 'they A hey had in con- and that lehei'would be added an arrear. of 6or ! First; it was. contended 'that plat' of the goods in-
temptation, ,tietler the idea that they could not pos. 7000 men, which was theemount Of the difference' sured being coufessedtrudereirepetty of an alien
,sibly get over all.the embarrasmenta which if would between the numbers actually raised in. the two last enemy, that circuntstandlitelhit to vitiate the policy
to. have been raised from ;
give rise to. The proper principle for an Enilishm years
an yea, and that expected entirely, the vice of ilite Jibe part applying to the
to adopt was, that individuals ought -tit be allowed the Militia ? e - • - • 4 whole. 2dlye It wet- cootended, that, 'supposing
to exert themselves Its .the way which, was most Lord CASTLEREAGH stated, that the anew of the Defendant not torbitiell founded in his first ob:-
egreeable to their own Inclinations. Having stated which ho had spoken, was not en the two last pairs jection, still the only part for which the Plaintiff
the outline of his plan, he would next proceed to alone, but on all the time during which the system! could be entitled to recover was 'the British property,
state the expectations which be bad of the numbers of &alighting froth the Militia bad been seteldished that belonging to/ the liamburghers being to
of men to be derived from it, and from the ordinary -what the precise amount of this ar rear wee; be be considered as the property of alien enemiete
•pecruiting of the country. The ordinary recruiting could not exactly say, but he believed *to satelmt! ist'ail mach as Hamburgh was In the possession
would not, in fact, be affected so stench by the men- .to 6 or 7000 men.
'l-h
9 alffereece between the 11111. e of * power with which this country was at war.
sores which were going on at the same time, as person, lithium bet-. fug abroad, and those enlisting - lathe 'New as, tit the first of these objections,
etulging merely froortheory might he led to suppose, line fora limited-period, vat, that tee* . • Andean was of opinion that eire mere accident of
lie should propose thai. the bounty for the transfer would retain their privileges, while those who' ewe these different Outlet being employed one common-
.ate to European service should be ten listed in the line would be on* he t footing if ether agent Cul not communicate to the innocent or British
' that for entering into the Line twelve 'soldiers. - The- eseeetime whisk woold-be considered tied attire part of the property.the Ace which at-,
' be given, for a service limited in point es • campaign would be regulated by the Cemesendet toolastittsthat part which was hostile property. Here
sixteetegeintat for a service for life; in Chief, according to the generetacceptatiee of the there-was no common or joint Interest ha the whole of

term The period -daring which the Militiamen,
who had thienteiesed- Ur fdreign 'service, might be
called upon, to serve abroad; • wthildttenintil,' six
months after the signing of a definitive "tral4y:ol)
peace, at which time they would bedisbastdokieren 1
if their services as Militiamen had not expired.: • , '
Mr. litIiITBREAD said, that as to the pain in
general, this was not the time to stand still, and, to
make any efficient eitertion, a. large additional force
was necessary, which could be. supplied from this
source alone. I eepport, therefore, (said Mr. W.)
the measure which has been proposed in the just hope
that these Increased aim wilt only be applied 49
their legitimate object, and -that *a • sew project of
ambition on our part, hum* Ike 01** of our Allies,
will divert as front it. • ,-Suits propel may arise, but
I supportthis measerei. belling auttrnsting that the '
means it supplies will I* applied to this object alone
—the obtainment of a speedy and honourable peace.
Lord CASTLERSAGH accepted the support
which the Hon. Guthman protfured, and which was
not the less valuable for the conditions which were
'annexed to It. He hoped, hbwever, that this general
1 , spirit of amity with which the House regarded the
measure, would not prevent the most strict examine..
lion of the details. -
Mr. WHITBREAD said. that it might be better
that this examination should take place after the Bill
had been through a Committee, and the blanks filled
up, in which state is might be given to the Members.
1 1 —Adjonsted.

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JAMES FORSYTH.

fleet Prison, Nov. 10, 18:9.
John Chatham, of TOttettliam Court-road,
Butcher ; W illiam Dill, of Kentish Town, Botcher;
!Allard Roberts, Thomas King William Watkins, Cohere
Parrott, John Parker. illiam 'Cooper, John Cooper. and
Thomas Webb, all of 'Newport :11arLet, Butchers; llearf
Fountain, sets. William Daunt, and Robert Hill. of Senate
Market, Butchers; Alickie, Denmark-sirect, St. Giles's.
Raker ; Blacken, Smithfield, Slorseller ; Dote%
Cow-cross, Smithfield, Butcher ; Suffolk, widow ne
James Suffolk, Smithfield, Butcher; blesses. Torsille and
Turner, Clifford's Inn, Solicitors; Gill, Starry.street.
Butcher ; and Joseph Sea9er, St. George's Market.
Butcher:—'lake Notice, That 1, ItrEllliklf BATIEN,
late a Crown-street, St. Giles's. intend to appear before his
Majesty's Commissioner for the Relief of insolvent Debtors, to
take the benefit of an Act passed list Srsions, at a Coon to be
holden at the Guildhall of the City of Westminster, on Monday
the 6th day of Dem-label next, at the hour of Niue in the
Morning.

MARRIED.
Thursday. lienrge Heald, Esq. ufr Dicky. in Ches,:iire.
to
A.4s, daughter of itielisrstiPsvneud, Earl. of Gm e-heue , ';:-

nuniiurv. • -
Thor•day. Riding,ll hie Dictius, Eel. of Ptidding-lanr. to
Alice. second ____Alec of *Wanly Chibuall, Esq. of 11).:n).
Wirt, Northamptonshire.

DIED.
• pp Namlay night., at Peterbwrustgla Pp!are, ip the k.;:ith yor.
OM nice, the Right Hey. Spencer Madan. D.D.
that Diocese. His Lorthhip.was Also Kector of West Hatton,
Llacatashire, mai 4 (Isola, Northamptonshire, both of which
arg pair abs became yams.

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