The Statesman.
London, England, 1822-06-28 00:00:00

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Tacanat.t., frog Out Othost of Chief Secretary
of Ireland, presented certain Relents from the Board of
ftecords pursuant to the Order of the House.—Laid a
the table.

COSY LAWS.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL. had intended, whilst mov-
ing the second reading of the Corn Imp6rtation Act
Amendment Bill, to have explained the grounds on
which the measure was (minded. lie understood, how-
ever, that it tined be matter of personal convenience to
several Noble Lords, that the debate should be taken in
the Committee instead of the second reading, and would
have no objection to such a course if be knew what day
would be tuost convenient. Considering the late
riod of the Session, he trusted, on the other hand, that
no opposition would be made to the second reading
taking place this day.
Lord ERSKINE was understood to say, that be
shoutd propose astunendment on the third reading of
the Bill, against which he had already presented twenty.
five petitions.
The Bill having been read a second time,
The Earl of LIVERPOOL proposed that it be com-
mitted on Monday, and that the third reading should
take place on Thersdar next.
The Marquess of HU TE suggested Friday instead of
Thursday for this third reading.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL assented.
Earl GREY bad no objection to the proposed arrange-
stmt. He held s Petition from Owners and Occupiers.

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of Land in the County of Northuniberlaad, who bad af-
fixed the number of acres which tbev occupied to their
signatures, and from their respectability and isthmian@
were entitled to the attention of the boom. They 414
not prefer any particular prayer' but they said that tbeyl
saw no relief in the present Dili, but a probable eonsil
lof aggravation of that distress which was increasing
every hour, and threatened to involve the country in
total ruin. He then moved that the petition be read
and laid on the table. which was done accordingly.
Lord REDESDALE also presented a Petition against
the same Bill from the Owners and Occupiers of hied
of certain parishes in the county of Sorry.—Laid lon
the table.

MUIR JUDICATURE,. • •
Lord CANDOR, after pointing out the defects of the.
present system ofJuilicature in Wales, presented a Be..
tition from 1 (we believe 49) Acting Magistrates
of the county of Pembroke, praying for such a &idioms
of the system of Welsh Judiceore as would place them
under the jurisdiction of the English Courts.
After a few oh tinns from the LORD CRANCRIA•OII6
Lord RitriesuAtit, the Marquesses of Lassoosrxii and
BUTS, and the Earl of BARKLIS as to the propriety], his•
portance, and difficulty of en inquiry into the subject.
the petition was read and laid on the table.

KING'S SILVZII.

Lard CA WDOR then stated. that fines were levied In
Wales os the conveyance of or ',secession to ettstro, and
that the money thus coslected went to the Crown, under
the name of the King's Silver. He thought that it
would be more beneficial that those fines should be col-

Inted as in England, and moved, that an humble AJ-1
diem be presented to his Majesty, requesting that his
Majesty would be pleased to give directions to the
'roper Officers to collect the fines levied in Wales under
the denomination of the King's Silver in the same
manner as those told in the Common Pleas io England.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought that the first
question to be decided must be, whether the levying of
those fines was legally or illegally done on the part of
the Crown. Hit was legally done, they were as mach
the right pod property of the Crown its any other right
or property whielr it enjoyed, and no 'alteration could
be effected except through the means of • legislative
enactment. He should have no objection to adjourn the

debate. mi wren to have the opiaion of his Noble and
Leained Friend on the Woolsack on the questions whe-
ther those fitslawere Jegally vested in the Crown.,
The LORI) eiIdXCELLOR hoped that the Noble
Lad who had tem* Sae motion would give him a rea-
sonable time to Took into the soMeet.
Alley • few:Vror4s from Lord REDESDALE and
Lord CAIV1)01t; the debate was adjourned to Monday
sennight.
ASS? aaD wary TAXIITONS.
OA the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL, the
Army and Nary Pensions Bill went through a Com-
mittee.
Theßeportheint brought op.
, Lord MO Marto fulfil his pledge, and to propose a
eresmble worths, of Orb a Bill. The first words of it,
bibelieved would be fousd to he English, though they
Were.those of the Noble Seeretary for Femign Affat
r irs.
toed
Po eMd ttanneetomilf
tte the follossog
aos
brigades all damsel of his Skyey,
aid if is highly. espedient to give them MIK'
*berme the minimnol of.relief that on give tads-
iatfellsetion, and the least intelligible plan 'that can be
sidled, is that the berths° of military .anal naval pen-
Abbe should extended over a somber of years f where-
the 37th Of Geo; 111. a large provision is made for
thirissintemmee and half-pay of persons holding high
lOaCelk &Ad it is desirable to moire the coati ee (the
PAM iseisaiiis In elicel—whereas there Is or will be a
Winking Feud of Are nailliets. In order to relieve future
weitirstiaties at the 'Spree, of the present. sod whereas
if l elpealleist to relieve the present *satirises of tasa,
tin' at the expenie of (more generations, which object
might bellehah effeasally attained by applying part of
the Snlalog fond m that purpose, bad not his klajesty'ar
Servants eskSared that the Sinking Fond shOuldThe
maintained livinlase, therefore be it enacted: that a se-
ries of leanialtall ritual ins circuitous m ; that
the Lords of the Treasury shall have power to lend to
themselves, anal to borrow from themselves, and to coo-'
owl the whole transaction from themselves, anal from,
all other ignorant and well-disposed persons, and that
the Conerissineters, for the Redemption of the National

Debt shill be appointed Trustees, ind be authorised to
Mate meek as Trustees, and to purchase it as Commis.
ewers patil the amount of confusion shall be equal te
but of die charge from which it is expedient to relieve
the present generation?"
' The Earl Of HARROITI3Y was understood to say.
'this the ffplle Lord opposite had frequently charged his
able of the House with want of sense, he now wished,
diet the proposed preamble and clause could be record-
ists* a prier of the sense of the other side.
'lewd KING maintaieed that the present Bill desteveff
)udrb a preamble.
. The question that this be the preamble to the Bill was
then pot and negatived without a division.
Tire itepere was then 'recited, and the differewt Bins
before she-flout respectively forwarded one stage.—
Adjoerned.
HOUSE 01i COMMONS.
kflusaNiudirso Dibeiaad promoted a

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-, 11.111T-TAX.-12 BLAND,
lai. DENNIS BROWNE presented a petition from
the Inkslli le or. the City of Kilimier, complaining
that they milted front the repeal of the Salt Tax,
1 the justice however, they did not impugn, bat
I prayed for me rifief.
1 Mr. CUIIIIVEN 'Mid be had no doubt be should he
able to eh* on the discussion of this question to•morrow,
that Irefaa ought not to be a sufferer from the repeal of
this tax. '
Mr. DAP made a few ob lions in support of
the f the duty on the rock salt imported to
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repe
eo
Mr. H. HL'TCHINSON assured the house that
the present feeling of the merchants of Cork was, that
the duty should be repealed ; but that they hail no wish
to see the other parts of the country suffer in conse-
quence of it.
Mr. BRIGHT anxiously desired to see the whole
tag, with the machinery of collection, done sway with.
The afetition was then read and ordered to be
printed. ...-
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from an
individual residing in Westminster, complaining of an
arbitrary deprivation of his license as a pablicaw.—Or-
dered to be printed.
'l,' . STASI'. ACTS,
On the 111 )tioifif ?dr. Les HI MIXON the house wept into
a Committee upon the Stamp Acts, pursuant to the Order
of tbe Day.
' lir. LUSHINfiTON then submitted cereals) Resolu-
tion", which were agreed to, and the house baring re-
sinned, the Report was ordered to be received "to-mor-
row.
POLIO' BILL. , .
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR Presented a petition fees die
Commissioners for widening streets, humbly praying that,
the proposed Act of the Right Honourable Secre-
tary for the Home Department would not interfere'
with their privileges to receive half the hoe levied under
the Act.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that the Session was too
far advanced to admit of his taking any advantage of a
suggestion of this kis&
The petition was then read and ordered to be printed.
ALIMOINS LICILNSIMI ,111. L.

On Ilk motion for the third reading of this Bill,
Imril GRAN BOURNE made some observations in op-
pneitition to certain clauses in the Bill, sad partienlarly
that which went to deprive the county Magistrate, of the
power they. pomeseml ever public basses. He considered
the Bill with the clause is it ail quite spoikd, and there-
fore moved as an ainendment, that it be road that day
three months.

Mr. Alderman SMITH secooded the amend ment,tb ink -
ing that the Hill bad been altogether changed from its
original object in the Comiiiittee.
Mr. CARTIVRICHT thought that the most pernici-
ous effects would follow from depriving the Magistrates
of their e.mtroul over the public houses.
Mr. NONCE. was sure that if the monopoly in beer
were desti oyed, porter would be sold at foorpence
balf-
-peony instead orfive-pence a rot. The amount expended
annually in strong beer in this country was 18 millions
sterling, and thin reduction therefore would be equal to
10 per cent. in favour of the consumers of this article.—
He thought that some steps should be falcon to transfer
•the power of the Magistrates over public houses to the
Petty Sessions, being of opinion that in a multitudq,of
Counsellors they were likety to find wisdom and grunter
security from abuse.
Mr. CALCHAFT defended the licensing Magistrates
from any imputation of improper conduct. and sales, the
clause in the Bill affecting those Magistrates were with-
Airswn„he should oppose the Bill.
Mr. Secretary PELL considered that the discretion
which had been vested in the County Magistrates ought

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PRICE SEVEN PENCE • 1
pot to he withdrawn from them. It bad levariably beta
well exercised for the benefit of the comary, sod the • .
plan of referring complaints against publicaus to the *
Quarter Session would be a very itimayealest and in-
effectual mode of supplasting it. Ho hoped that it
would be possible for the motor of the Bill to mate •
such a modification of this clause as should remove Me
objection, in order that the Bill might ant be lost.
Ale. BERNAL thought it would be very bard spin '
his Hon. Friend (Mr. Bennet) that this MU should be
rejected, after be hail takes so much pains to frame it • •
to mit the notions of Hon. Members. Illo•propmed thatrt '
the weed " Cuttoty," should be erased from the elituaire
when he thought it !dill be acceded to.' ' '
Mr. M. A. TAYLO: R said, thai from as imperialist get .
thirty years, be sever hum an instance of luveopy ilt? r I •
privation of Reuse; aid to take frets County/ Nettles*
tra:es that power which they kart hitherto**. impoetiallyi
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and beaefiebilly exercised, would be Moist as 'Oast WO .
poMaisra upon them.
Mr. IIOOTLE- WILBRAIIiM eimaamotwi ea semi'
of the provisions of the Bill, and was of 'minim it MOW
be advisable to let the subject stated ewer till he:team"
don. . ::i.
Mr. LOCKHART :thought this Bill did medial
izgi
the public sufficient protectim egoism the the Mir.
rimmed seder the present system. He therefor* . '
the Bill to he mtesmasitted, that the subject arithlPlNll4. -
again discussed.. ..:. • •••• •
Colossi WOOD said. if the WIl weve allowed
staid over till seat Siseilesh the wimple of the
many of which were adisitted to be rued, most
imperative for •mr. He beggarte wrist, that die -
three clauses which had bees priacipolly objected he't '••
should be withdrawn, and the Bill, each as it would be. •
without them, panel.
Mr. F. PALMER did ant object to the Bill as fhr as
it went, but thought it did not go far enough, sod ht
therefore wished it to stand orer another year, skim it:
might be seen whether it could be made stronger and
More like what had been originally contemplateil..
Mr. ESCOURT hoped the Honourable that. witold
withdraw his Bill for the present. Though he thaiitOst•
ilhe measure might be made useful, if pressed in km'
prompt state, he must vote for the Amendment .tif the
Alai. Lord.
Mr. H. BRIGHT spoke in f f the summary ju-
vindietien at present exercised. - '
• Mr. LUSHINGTON joined in the wish so generally
expressed that the Honourable Gentleman would with•
draw his Bill for the present, and bring it forward'
again is the early part of neat Session in an improved'
shape.
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Mr. HOLM RD thought the Bill walleye oboe might
have been expected, and what was originally intended.'
He hoped it would be withdrawn for the present, to 100
mietrodueed in a mere perfect form.
Mr. Alderman WOOD spoke in femur of the Bill.-i•
He thought before a publican was deprived of his liceoin
that be ought to be heard. He might not to be mos-•
tigiNted, nod perhaps totally ruined without having an.
si ty of Ostia' what he might hare Malicia his ..
Fitt BENNET replied. Seems years Isseireetpenwel,
1 sinesebefarised his Wad as this sabjeet, tad-0414e%
qtyaswend attempt that :has bed made, in- .
.with prepuce-of all parts of the House, to frame a MN-
sure wisicb.witold correct the evils which bad so long
bee. the subject of complaint, he could net now consent
to-withdraw it. H. then described the objects which he
had in view in bringing in the present bill, aid showed
that be had been prevented from killowiog some of
them up, by the inconsistent conduct of SOON of those.
who bad at first come forward in support of his tine
upon the subject. He, however, contended that the
Bill in its present fonts would do good. Mazy of these
scourges of the poor, those sinks of iniquity, which now
existed in the metropolis and elsewhere, would be put
down if it passed. He wished to establish a system
under which the Magistrates would be forced•to pat
down a bed beast, but under which a good one would
be protected against an arbitrary exercise of power.---:
He had no object in view but to correct the evil, admit-
ted to exist. Those who opposed the Bill new before
there, and wished the law to remain as it was, were per-
haps not acquainted with the actual state of the law.--.
By the 9th of James I. chapter the first, it was enacted,
that any landlord who suffered persons to remain tip-
pling labile:boom longer than one hour would be liahle
to forfeit a sum of money for the first offence, and for
the second to be deprived of his licence. Titus stood
the law at precept, /11141 be wished the public to know it
yet there were in that House, persons who considered•
themselves to be legislators.and who were Magistrates,
who, did not know that any tavern-keeper who suffered
owe or five gentlemen to remain in his house for more
than an hour, eating or drinking, he was liable to be
pasished under that law. If arty single person should
come to him as a Magistrate of Surrey, sad say, that
whereas at a tavern where he (Mr. Bennet) hail lately
dined with his Hoe. Friend the Member for Southwark,
certain gentlemen had met for the pnrpose of tippling,
of speaking, sod yet more of eating, he should, on such
informed**, be obliged to levy a penalty on the land-
lord, and adjudge him to lase his license. Because
met a proceeding was not very likely, they were not
to sesame that it might Dot be witnessed. lie had in
his possession an adjudged case where a Magistrate, w
Clergyman, bad codvicted a publiiran for the high crime
of giving out a putt of beer to the servant maid of that
mow Clergyman on Sunday, and the landlord and his
family, who bad till then lived is credit, laid is come.
queues been redneed to poverty. Hr 14 Id. I.i not consent
towithdraw the Bill. He would however conr•no to
lam• out the words " Vona: ire and Ridings," if that
weeld.mtlefe the objection raised ageism it. He coma
planed of the opposition offered to this • Bill by thaw
whocemplained of defects which it did net contain. Thy
iiiimminfght dispose of it as they pleased : brit as the
trot ill, so it might lie. They wooled nut find him
ready to take epee himself the trouble of attending a
Gemsaittee for five or sift days, to heart number of gen-
thilhou talking at out., anti to have some pulling get
the white hairs of his plan, and others the black ones.
till at last 1101114 remained. After the labour and ans.
iety which he bad endured, and after the expense incur-
rid to pet the machinery in motion, which was neces-
sary to give the requisite information, if.all were now
to be of so avail,' others might take tip the subject if
they pleased, but for his part, Ile bad neither time nor
mosey, nor patience to spend in such an unprofitable
manner.
The boom then divides), when the numbers were—Foe
the third %aiding, 3tl—For tbs Amendment, 21—Majo.
rity, 17.
Some discussion took place on the passing of the Bill,
while strangers were excluded, and several amendments,
we understand, were moved and adopted.
SLAYS TRAWL
Mr. WILBERFOItCE rose under peculiar circum-
stances, to call the attention of the house to tha subject
of the Slave Trade. After the measure which had been
resorted ,to by this somtry, in negotiating with Foreign
Powers, in order to repress the Slave Trade, be thought
it would be felt that we were bound to use every means

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