The Statesman.
London, England, 1821-07-25 00:00:00

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following matter :—" Reform will be obtaine4 ivies
the existing authorities have no longer the power to
withhold it. and not before. We shall gain it as early
without petitioning as with it, and I would again put
forward my opinion that something more thee a peti-
tioning attitude is necessary. At this moment I would
not say a word about insurrection, but I would strongly
recommend uniOVictivity, snd co-operation. Be ready
and steady to meeT any concurrent circumstance."--;-
There were six of the Jury talesmen.
Mr. GORNRT (with whom was Mr. TIMM I) stated
the case for the prosecution with his usual ability, urg-
ing the so often repeated topics in cases of this de-
scription. The following witnesses were then exam-
ined for the prosecution :
James Rignall deposed, that he had purchased
the pamphlet in question of the defendant, at her shop
in Fleet-street, on Friday evening, the 9th of March.
There were several other copies lying about on the
counter.
Cross-examined by Mr. Coorsn.—l am, and have
been for the last 18 months, an agent for the Society
for the Suppression of Vice; and I am also agent in
this instance for the Constitutional Association. I did
not purchase any other copies of the pamphlet. I was
employed by the Solicitor fqr the prosecution, Mr. Mur-
ray. Ile told me to go. He did not particularize what
pamphlet I was to purchase. He did not tell me is go
and purchase several other copies of this pamphlet.,
He did not tell me what was his object. It was not
mentioned. I have no wages. I. don't say that I
acted gratuitously. I made a charge for my time. I
do not belong to the Society, (with vehemence.)
Mr. COOPER---I don't wonder at your being anxious
to separate yourself from the Society, (a lauglt amongst
the auditory.)
Mr. OURNET••A desire that no such remarks may
be made. _ _ _ _

By Mr. Coorsa--What have you had for this par-
ticular job ?—1 have made a charge for several other
little things I did.---(A laugh.)
Mr. GURNEY (to the spectators)--I shall certainly
move his Lordship to take notice of some particular
persons that I see misconducting themselves.
Cross-examination resumed.---What other jobs did
you do for the Association did several jobs ; that I
will not deny.
Ilow much hare you had for these little jobs ?—I
declare, upon my oath, I cannot sate particularly bow
much I have had for these little jobs. I made a
charge. I don't recollect exactly what my charge
was. I can tell you pretty nearly the round sum, if
that will f,atisfy you. I think it was about ;i. and
under seven guineas. I was sent on other business
besides this. _ _

I wish to know what that other business was ?—ls
it necessary to answer that question ?
I think it is necessary.—Then I will take the sense
of the Court upon it. I bare no objection to answer
that or any other question, if my Lord thinks I ought.
Mr. Justice Brer.—You bad better answer it.
Then I purchased some other different things for
the Association, but it was not in consequence of any
general or particular orders I received ; I went to
purchase those publications which I thought libels; I
cannot state exactly now what they were.
Then you did that, I suppose, without any hope of
reward ?—I don't state without any hope of reward; I
expected to be paid for my time
Then it was not merely from motives of patriotism
and public virtue ?—Those were two of my motives
most certainly, but not the only ones.
Ilas this been the usual way of getting your living??
It has for a year and a half-past ; I have had no..other
feasible occupation during that time.
I suppose you received a considerable sum in the
course of this horn:arable employment ?—1 have told
you that the sum total was about 7!.
Mr. Justice Berr.—Do you think that material,
Mr. Cooper ?
Mr. COOPER-I do think it material, to show the
sort of Agents that this Honourable Society employs.
In what honourable employment were you before
this?-1 had a situation in his Majesty's Customs ser-
vice ; I have left my situation.
Have you received a pension from the Customs ?-1
hare not.
What is your age ?—1 am 54.
Ite-examined.-1 have been in the employment of
the Society for the Suppression of Vice fur a year and
a half ; I have been paid by them for my services. In
this instance, and in some others, I have made some
purchases for the Constitutional Association.
lioratio Orton examined by Mr. OURNET.—I was a
witness before the °rand Jury. On the 10th March
1 purchased another copy of the pamphlet in questions
from Mary Ann # 'arlile ; I had it from her own hand.
Cross-examined by Mr. COOPER-.-110W came you to
purchase this on the 10th of March ?—1 was directed
by Mr. Murray, the Solicitor, to purchase it.
This is the tientleinau (pointing to Mr. Murray in
Court) ?—Yes.
lie is the Honorary Secretary to the Association,
and the disinterested Attorney for this prosecution?—
Yes. I was sent by him for the express purpose of
purchasing this pamphlet ; I should not have gone if
I had not been directed by him.
What is your situation in the Society?—My situ-
ation to the Association is as clerk.
Clerk to Mr. Murray ?—No ; I am not in Mr. Mut-
ray's office.
Is the Society's office separate from the Attorney's
office ?—Yes.
In what situation were you before ?—I used to na-
sist my brother in his correspondence with country
newspapers.
Not fur the town p.spen?—No, for himself ; he
takes the reports of the House of Lords' proceedings,
and transmits them to the editors of the country
papers ; I used to assist him in the copying, and he
paid me for my trouble.
Is your salary in your present honourable situation
fixed ?—No, it is not fixed.
It depends upon your exertions?—Yes.
You don't work by the piece ?—No, 1 do not ; the
Committee have not yet come to a determination about
my salary ; I have not made any demand for salary ;
have not proposed any sum; I mean to swear that;
not any sum has been proposed to me ; I don't say
that I would work for the Society gratuitously; if I
want 51. I know where to go for it; not of the Associ-
ation ; I can have it of my brother ; I expect to re-
ceive something front the Association.
In your modesty, what may be the extent of your
expectations?