The Statesman.
London, England, 1810-06-09 00:00:00

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the people of England with(
ofth.. ••:.w ; and they further
,Jrge is necessary to their
c atteild that the Coustituties
or which they deliberate, gives ts.l _
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whist their Privilege, as' they, under" the pie.
wee of that Constitution, attempt to etereiiss ever
vs. • L.make this distinction, i)eresillik t nut free to.
~v, that if the decision of the house oI„CAOPP bins
pr the decision Of any.othor gketkeitrogoio9, ill
{,hour of the Privileges they hiiii)nruiped, and
g.:r which they contend, it Will be a decision 'to
3, hich [shall not he divollettoteubmit. I Can
cc4illect, not from my own personal monitory, but,
from what I have need of the history; of, Alto coon.
vy; that the Howe of tommoos have annulled
their Own' proceedings, when it etas the t teasuie
of the Kiug that they should do so. . I. 'can recul.•
I,!ct with •.referedce to history, that the Court
could take a Judge ftomPue Bench when he an.
rtounced
a decision contrary to the wishes, of the
Court.
Gentle Men. I will try they-votes of the
House ofrAonnlons mot the decision of Courts of
Justice, not by the majority of the votes—not by
the argoinp?ta of the Judge ;. but by the Constitu-
tion. t denj the power of Parliament, great as it
may lie, '46 'alter the Constitution' of England !
Thee is a material difference between the ordinary
C
interpretation of the Low, and the on,titutional
principles's!' thela w —the Constitutional principles
of the Vatti are an inheritance of which no power
sin earth can deprive the People of England;
those principles limit our obedience, and the very
instant the House of Commons or the (louse of
Lords shall attempt to repeal those taws,which our
ancestors scaled with their blood, and we were
told should Oiler be annulled, itEBF.LLION WOULD
DEcomt ova ruler DUTY Very vehement plau-
dits; expressions of approbation resounded.
throughout the whole area]. Gentlemen, the
Privileges of the House of Commons, and the
Privileges of the people . arc the same : the tow
cannot exist without the other.. The only differ-
ence is, that the Privileges of the People are tan.
tamount to those who represent them—the Privi.
leges of the Commons are subservient tii'those of
the people, and the lesser consideration cannot
include the greater. If the Law and the' Consti.
Wiwi have said, that there shall be a certain pro-
cess against every individual before he is deprived
of his personal liberty, it cannot be in the power
of the Ifolise_of Continuos, by any assumption of
undefined Pitivil-ge, to . defeat or destroy that
tit a 1131m:tool ptinciple. . It .is : nail necessary
tor us to take the votes of. the noose of Coon.
mints as our. guide with' iegied to '-the foil.
dements! article of tiny politieat faith. The law
nail the Constitution of our country justify. us in
saving, that the late proceedings its: the BUOSU of
Cognitions are on sva rrantablat assemptionsuf. pow.
et, and (ha they have extended their privileges he. I
vont! the line which is justified by the Constitution.
They may quote the iniiiiintis 'Qe diets,' as they
214 called, of great lawyers, -in.defenee -of their'
gisognsed privileges. I know that fettrtlA;olto Os
slid, that the Judges cannot fake cognisance of,
what, is done in Pavliament. r know thetthief
Justice. Dd °try, liking a preeedent bet Mr thsir IS
ptiuciele,, has stltT, Brit-cinirta Of. ,I. sro slot
ceikeis
eompetentitas deeldo upon questitias in
•
privileges' of Parikinteati 04, IC 'es of
Itlidillesex, if the, JUdges of thl„lenil Stith &mod
oiTtially to'ind* the .entent.at . .1a Aiditiof Par:.
.. . .
Lament, a fait. JO H, they are bound to "Snow the
principles of Ow British Constitution. If they
•
arobeitiid to tiA`a, ponce pf it atante passed mere.
iv in (aim!r of personal printery, are they- pot
bound to foe that whit 6 claimed as priikiegq of
Parliament Is' (StlY 14fifle if Parlialieni, soil 14.1
it does not annul and dest toy., he pa ianitititti rip'.
'egos alb": pets pl e,of wh o nt Pels rl i ant en t arellie repre-
sentatives ? t Liati and incessant plutidits.) hjsnit
the right of the House of Commons toietntif‘Ttie
contempt, but it is a right whr'h isytly to hearer"!
cised upon the same principle with tt ped. to
schich a Court of Law exercises it. A kc)tol 01.7,
LAW never exercises a summary jurisdiction, bx
committing an individual to prison, except for the
support of its sole authority, anti it dues so for the
hest possible reason ; a, person who. commits an
offence against the authority anti dignity of
,a
Court of Justice cannot be brought into Court to
atisoer for it, because he commits it in Court, and
it would be an absurdity to suppose, that it could
be necessary for a Judge to try a man fur an of-
fence of which he was himself an eye-witness, and
-particularly an offence subversive of the dignity
of the court, and obstructing its proceedings.
Up" this principle I. agree that the Ilouse of
Coomoos may have a right to commit their Mem-
. ben for offences sunder their own immediate 61‘.
sermncc. It has beenorgued, therefore, that al.
thoigh they had no right to commit Gale Jones
to triton, yet, that they had a right to commit
Sir F. Burdett, who was a Member of the House
orCommons. I deny the proposition. I den/
that they had any right whatever to commit 4ir_l,..
Btrdett ; his offence, if it was one, was not
cunmitted in the House of Common:!, it was
a publication out of it; If it 'lasi a P.
he, he was amenable ter the law fur Writ.
in it. It was no breach ot -Prit'acge of the
II ese of Commons—it was not a matter they
is any right to inquire into, and therefore if
ate thing is to be concluded with regard to the
psceeditigs against Sir F. Burdett, there is no.
sing, however violent it may be, in which the
Huse of Commons will not be justified. The
puciple is one upon which they may imprison
ay man. I wish to make an observation ir,:th
riard to Mr. Whitbread ; he is a gea9ini.;n
stem I believe to be a most respectabLecharac.
ti. However I may differ from hiM ttiith regard
this political sentiments, I cotrider him as a
isst respectable antagonist; aneewbatever homey
lire advanced in the House of Commons, I trust
I will nut claim fur that !lonia the unjust and
turped privileges which have !ice!' contended for.
]would ask him, how e'.lll those Privileges be
aintained, without the :louse of Commons sur.
ordering all that pmetr which ought to be in their
an hands ? If they must go to the King for his
ilitary forces iv order to give effect to their as.
med Privilegehl their porter, as Sir John Throg.

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I anteptt I say that no 'body ofin .euisedhrened en,
Air cectelq restrrptions can repeal tbniniihority by,
1 .
which they exist. I kitoer- that in bad times 0
pretisidents hire ' aectititilefid,. and 1. Ann
'that in. contly lima Aliens ore men .•wito. • ''
jostify• one bed toractice by ettey:elttekel•bA'll
wefill not. surrender Off reaso n;lilislrliiiii. Aar
,ithen we come to a proper tibliaition'of the terms,
ell-men of worth, who love truth anditiatite, will
(ionic poet tO our lido. , I -should iinifty to in.
I
earrupt Abe harmony of this meeting; iffthlongli
,tny sentheeels 'are very much i'n conformity With..
those of the •Ceetktiement of whose talents, and
character I tavethe-highest opinion, yet I cannot'
t, agree with them in the measures which they thitsk„
effectual, forswearing we from the usurped domino:.
dots of the Manse at Comm tins. I said, on d
former occasion, that I would not cutisent to
petition the lionseof Commons. I say so again,
~fer the same realan whkh before. actuated me, as&
I have many additional 'arguments to fortify wry
'opinion since I last delivered my sentiments upon
the subjeCt. -I-will never conseurto Petition tbet
House of Commons, whiCh has done so many acts
subversive of the best interests of the people. I will
:never consent to show such complacency to a louse
COMMOUS, coostitoted as 'the present House of
COMMOUS is. If 1 would nut 110 fit) at the period
I last addressed you, what shall I say now, when
the Walcheren Expedition has been brought to a
close? when all our exertions with regard to Spain
have failed ; when multiplied disgraces have been
brought upon our arms; when his Majesty's*.
jects -have . been grieving for the loss. or national'
treasure and blood; when Our shores hive been
ignoled by the effect of the disastrous Expeditions
of • our Ministry ; when the pride of our bloto4
men high in heart and spirit, have been.lent thread
to contend, nt.t against an enemy, but the decrees of
'Gud,not against aftte,bot a pesti len till cl imate. When
I have seen the brave defenders Of our cnentry,
our gallant youth, who went forth in all the pomp
and pride of military splendour, ciOmltig
.home
crest.fallcn, depressed and. dejected, When no-
thing has been heard on oar coasts but the
cries of dying met!. --•--Witett ittithing',4l been
seen but the funerals of the yowl
.Ista inwave,
1 and when at the time of this •drettlfel catastrophe
1 I find the House of Commons voting that no
inquiry. was necessary into such dreadful cala;
!;pities, at least no Other inquiry but what'
might be carriedatticto be room-. Can I possi..
bly think thatioy good is obteitied by. yeti.
1 tioning the house of,Cominoits, which has so con.
ducted Will' f. Al hilare, lupins ai former occasion,
said, so I now repeat, that to. such a Rouse of
Commons I will not sign any Petitiou. Every aea',
guesent, which before induced me to refuse signitig
a Petition to the Houten( Cotimons, has derifed
test-fold strength;,,.: I cannot venture to encourage
the hopes of thusevfor whose opinions I have Our
highest respect. - When he SAW the arguments ofdi
sack a matt as Sir S. Loudly, when his. purpOso
was to render freehold estates liable to certain
debts, answered with the yell of. Revolution, and
his arguments on other import:mt questions an.
veered with the same cry,. from those who ttevilli
speek in 'the House Of Commons, because *their !UI
tier think, he thought to petition the House of
_Commons for Reform Was fruitless ; their opponents
admitted the facts, but as the lawyers said, put in a
plea of-justification ; butt if they failed in that plea,
they ought to pay the costs. Rut twenty black
rabbits would not make a black horse ; they had
tried to oppress Colonel WartHe, by the must ma.
lignant attempts, but he has, at lenstit,triumphett,
. trir perseverance in 'theft virtuous principleC
Should they taunt the Advocates of Reform with
wishing Tor Itettelliois ? Nations never made 'a
'greit progress bet by great. changes ; what stgni.
lied their deletling the people with their trilling
piddling ptens of Referm. lie would riot trust
any •Ministry, who would not pledge themselves
that no man should he taken into his Majesty's
Couticile *lto loin any interest in a rotten be...
rough. . .
The following Resointions were then Rut end I
carried :
Revolved, That it appears to this Meeting, that the Petition.
of this Comely, of the 16thof April, to the C onmons Mane
of Parliament, was rejected by that House, *intim 240 May
last, for-the following reasons:
That certain allegations therein austaiaed. were believed i
not to be true; that of was not thought to be worded in a suf- 1
ficiently nsapectiot manoer : that it wassigoed by assail num-
ber of Freeholders; that it wasn protest supposed proceed-
ings of the nooses aild also, that it wasto be an
atteuipt to degrade the lionise.
Resolved,That this Meeting considers the refusal to receive
the Petitions of the People a violation of their inherent rights.
Resolved, That' the facts stated in the rejected Petition of
the County are true; that the language in which they are ea-
pressed is the {lain and bootst language in which olonenthey
could he described ; that ouch lauguage is justified by the
authority of the Home itself: that the wmoher of signatures
to Petitions to Parliament is restrained by law.
"that the People are bound to protest against every viola-
'tips of their Rights and Liberties : Allot this County (Rd nut
••issterul to degrade the Noose of Commons: they knew that no_
words, in soy langwagevessotol degrade tint -Wm. Rase;
but that by its own actions alone is could be degraded* the
minds of the Purple:Resolved, That a Complaint, Remonstrance, ash NNW, ,
he presented to iiie House of Commons, in conformity tb the
liirednide Relvintions,:and praying that the rejected Petition
of this Clonally be now received. .
A Cre.oplaint,• Remonstrance, snit Petition, having been
read DA agreed 4a, to was Reseived, That it be slgneol by the
sloleat and to freeholder, in the name and behalf of this
Xerting t and that the seine be preseated to the House by
tieforge BYKI lin.
ltesolved, that the ttrunks +4 this hitting be given tn
ripurme,Syns, Jisq. one of our liepreseutatiyes, for his general
conduct in Parliament. • Mei,
' Remimtif, That the thinks of this big he Filen to the
Sheriffs, for their *readitsess io calling this fleeting, anti for_
their judleiustt tifid impartial conduct its the Chair.
I :The fiestß,esolution of Mr. Clifford, and alto a
Mesolvaimr by him, voting .the Thanks of the
Meetieg.to the S4eri e, were then put and
.agreed to.
Mr., MOLT . HITE then motet! ; . , •
That the Thatiks of this Comely are eminently doe to the
Rhomsrabie Thomas *rand, for oat selfeiring the present Sei.l
sion to pass away without ratting, the attehtina of Parliament I
and of the Country. to the deplorable decay and very perni&
oste state of the People's .Rrpresentotionia (lie Commons
Hislite ; and as well to Sir John .'!ewport, Bart. to Samuel
Whitbread, G. L. Wardle, C., N. Noel, Estrvant the aide
and strew 's* support they gave on this ticastrittp gets use

Agreed to. ...- •
Major CARTWRIGHT thee ease t.s*a4
and.said, Thhubotild only 6403 tltellifellltgtt rot
'minutes by wheelie had ,ti say. He dial* fees
the Gentleman who spbke before, afld erha slid •
we ovght nut to petition. He, on the.atintrary,
thought.it was right to petition the Hoeft of tom.'
mons•tinte after time, till we had brought thi**
reason; end the most effectual way ofd viitu
was for: Ahappeople to send up their complh fits r.'
hots all parts of the country. Re then proposed''
the (allowing Resolution :
" That M.ltadocs he requested is terwaraneale.
lathe eel
session, his charge against Laird and.
Mr. Perceval, fur the sale of *seat in Parliament ; t • the
two Members for lid iddlesex be inssruesed to
Lion, and that this requeit of the County orMeit be eon-
usuuicisted to Mr. Mudocks by the Shears."
This Resolutiou was carried amidst the loudest
acclatnations.
When the Petition and various Resolutions were
passed, from a window on the extremity of the
great room Mr. Gibbons addressed the Meeting.
;le declared, that though he stood alone, nothing
should prevent. him from saying, that•the Petition
agreed to at the last Meeting,,
.at well as the one
adopted that day, were disrespectful,. insulting,
anal infamous, (Yery loud murmurs). He cared
not fur their reoroeches, • '
• . •
4',Pupsilaskos sttietat ac saibi plan& I"
the only wish or want was, that.the money was
not in his pocket (crier " Yes,,pUblic money from
our pockets"). If the House of Commons could
contleSeettd to receive Seek Petitions, they .deserrt
ed not only to hi:path:4,4y the nose, but abso.4
lately kicked.— ( Iminesiseatd tau ffhtt er.) •
WAITHNIAI4 stated 'hitt •grxtification,
the enemies of Reform wire Vtae;:dity 'sd runt
heard, because front their conduct and address
their objects were perfectly intelligible. They.
were unable, from the rottenness of their cause,
'Oven if' they' had talents, to make an apparent,
'alined.. They fell proitrate before the simple, but.
irresistible language of truth, The last' speaker
!bad dared to say. that' the PiSti.On was. ittfamoos
and iusnlting. From wha4:llPl,did:tliii toa(.liPci,
proceed ? from a person wholn he istialeritosit- N. ,
be a peusioner, actuallr finittijri 'the e
distress, [Front Mr,. Gleeetst":ll44l
%%to!, although it was eat theses that wasolsisismao
slosser.eou id he say that ,it Wel false diet ItlifithK
tlirrrriGiblione,,WasnetaPaneloner,paall amid.*
devoted to the Ministry of the day, no matter what
difference existed bettneni the ;politics of that tst
t hat administration? ' [Hear ! hear S boot] Rut
what right haul that gentleman, or
.any other mat,
to impute motives tt: him, or to the. treeholderi
of Middlesex, which were, not deducible from
their words? The tavern loyalists AO, 'however,
d one so ; were not satisfied with a deciats.-
thin of their own sentiments, bot, ventured to
traduce the character and principles of every min
who wished well to the rights of the people, and
felt anxious to obtain that reform of abuses, With.
out which it was impossible that the country could
be rescued from the awful danger with which It
was threatened. Even in the room that day, a
gentleman was heard to say, 64 Oh, don't mind
this. crowd ! they are pickpockets."
A, FREEMOLDEIL —The man who dared to
siy sot was that Mr. Gibbons, who has lately
addressed , this. Meeting. I myself heard him
make the libellous assertion [Loud murmurs],
11 before the business of the day was even begun.
Mr. BURST, in a neat speech, prefaced a Re-
solution of Thanks to Mr. Byug ; and contend.
' ed, that the language and conduct of their other
Representative was nothing short of a direct libel
upon the county, %hick. unfortunately committed
their interests to his protection. [Loud ap.l
plats:es].
Mr. MELLISH had no wish to conceal
condnit from his Constituents; and although he
would not compromise his own conviction, iJili
be must regret that such' was the state of events,
that he much differed from them. Ho asked them
openly to state, whether he had ever deceived
them? [" No, no; we knew yots.too weir]. Well,
if it was their opinion that lie had nut deceived
them, ling was to him a source St great satisfac-
tion. He had ever paid attention to their indi-
vidual wishes-rand when he differed from them en
Pablic.onestions, it was, he assured them,. front a
strong atid.cotiscientious feeling.

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Mr. WA.ITIIM AN felt it his duty to M 0.41
the Meeting from the imposition which, under thst
appearance of good nature, the Worthy Repro. I
sentative had attempted to practice. One r0u.14:,
hare supposed that he thought the kst duty of
Senator was his civility towards'those ivhor
ddc.
gated him. The civility, the complaisance,
politeness of Mr. Mellish he admitted, and items:
deed were it not that his politeness was ehareifet,
istic, he Would, when he saw' it urged upon suck,
aftoecusiun as the present, designatu it as some.
thing of a sneaking subserviency. But it was not
by such itintapptible trifles that Englishlnts
were to be influenced. They had the public' con.
duct of Mr. Mellish. before them, and as he h$
challenged questioning, hewauld ask him, what wall
his conduct upon the case of :the Duke of York.
—of the Cintrocot,V4l.oo-40aWbase Negoeia.
Lion for a seat ilt a House of ,CoMmotis,-
which Lord castlilfrds. 'far.... Spencer Perie
• • •
elf,
val wcre'the 0.24 *.' Dote elr, what was his
conduct upon that Strad Eapedition to Walche.
.rest, which prudig*lty lavished the best blood and
treasure .f the country only.to purchase national
dishonour' [ileter,Vistir, hair 11- If his con.
Science prevented' Mt. Melfish 'film supporting,
eyes in one solitary Cale, a poplar measure,: how
was it.that his sepftsCienett ittliordettltitn the latitude
of supporting escry trieraiice of which the peo:
pie complained, and everylabtiws by which •the
Ministry pleated t• Such wars Ids acts Alta
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reißliglik abiAlfgota:sl3444oo;jo,
,RPMe. to .., bsoalfeedalialtr*.
,very qwviltpof.whalM. ,availj mar
N • ctiumoy, .for Allhilliill 1010.14161111."
kocia AI ..0 (Moto -tietinew 06 -•
lad, Fleet NMI- Intel •dantrallabrii
.Iciesfiklitin *OR advettidowebe oat
Representation, and asked Mr. Mellisfain
sok,famok..lo4l,operleamif lino*,
•trei to borongheWeseeposoo.ant ante. s
Antkilid holiitesself pettfor hie sehtlarto '
riensby ? [Nears hear 1] The -pries 464
suchAttlf-hl WM: iknir,ee • olstecioun. es . that 1 till ilia
ipublie,Juads,,,,E44eati hear lj . A I.wee ,welt ktiqwft,-;,'
'that to pop., wan 49091. fur . the :Rariilowati. oesw-
1004 sltcart.lov,tbo ,Seseios.• Mt. Mellish :had,:i
paideo,fcie,procorim,bl.4-that Airy Gentleuran,.l
*lien known.es An actire,morehant, eVer.en- the fi
i' k,;,o§ik fur e,good bargain (who•now tells pant.'
Fon
llWOr[n was Clilietig to bet convicted from theili
..
ovreble House of which he Wits stMeilibeV),A •
paid .50091.. for ,his seat, fur no other. pit4msolut. `. ' .. ,
south, than to guard the liberty of, the tobjectveWill t.
to obtain
,ultisnately a. refer'* of allnbeins. ' 1 ..: • - ,
Mr. DYNG, amidst, loud applause,* expressed
his thanks for. the liceolotiomAilushair, olpplioval,
and essund them .1)146 kW .paioalpiscewrouitaltered
and SPefter4hle• I' '7 - ,-_i• t •• 1, ! %I'. V:* '.•• . ' It •
Messa.,SheriffssVOOD and AtlstNS gists wee '.'
tinned thank; ; Awe Just observed, that Is eigsf•i
step he bad taken, -ite.4.felt the- conseioweeeshl nit:,
having acted right,, ahhotigh it no iseppetied Altai
,he had been attecked by lowysoribbleret,:mid peso 7.
written to by a- Noble .Dukei as ilavihogpnisaed A
line of coodnet cilculated .to satishevtithe,Cdesei. :
&Mimi of the country.., ti•,,A)...11. • • • t
This must', %onerous aid itellettabter,Meeting
then lenntaiedadft Aqoaxter.pail six. o'clock. ~ o
1 ,b.iy,.r.,„...4,,,:._.—..:...- , t'f (Ail;iiilV)
. ' ht&WHlGiiktPliftLiikinifitllpliq .: di
tifi 11-si ill/ Alsory ,i, lit,stz I -. :lir,•4
tillastiali,al),LOltlittilltittawsio.llPio lid
A Mrsaapi was bqeught ep ftoneabo,Cloomaiei'‘
stating the recent..Rtieletieee Of- that [Wile •re-
:speOtinglSitosouve-Ofices, cage., and requesttog thu
attendence of :Leal Arden upon thp Committee of
'that ..House t- to•whieh, after the qoestien for per-
',hittaitg his..Lianlehip- was put -and carried, tire''
'Lord Chancellor-replied, that the Hommel-Lords
„would send an answer by Messengers of their own. •
• . filkiiTott,Amo etto.DITOA LAWS. '' -I .
' :Lord at;p6pito.t,E rose to mere the snood
• reading At his 43i11, tq ,prevent vexation Arrests.
'l,' hough it :Nos . late in Abe Session, he 'risked
the Bill to gejoito,thiscpsopnittee. .• . ~b say, •-4
I,,,ordiklLlAN 8040W:if,. mhile be eptivartroilh
of -the olijestalof the lailloyet,metertained shriek !
Fisttjectiona to.tit to ,iV present shape; and sir/ally; t
objectetl.to the proposed plan for sending ewes of
414#4110044y bgfor, Ale guar" which had Already so
• Ilatitill filliPentalit geld. necessary business an • their .
banks,' as to vender, it utterly impossible foe kiwi •.: .
:licit' and the rest sof the Joklgin to pay attention to
thin pew. task 4 l'Air.likil,' lietonsidered- Ps crude
and •perfoetly impracticable, .in. Mich a view of its 4
operation.' Ileitherefaru limed the propriety of
tohlohnioliik it far the . proseo4 and erlog.toi, to' ,
re:ethyl-40 the tat *site Wove aloft' Sessiosr..' He
had lilted nothiegivelttill 4:few days ago, Olsen ho
found four, copies of- it-In the Judges' Chambers. •
Ho objected, to any lowri proceeding es a Bill so ,
impossible to carry: lobo effect, that- he shoollim
diao the !louse ow', the
,questiou if it were Omni?
Sod. :.Atliretent, it would .reerely be going inrirlt.
aComoiittee of inventions, whores-they thightepeV: .
Ciliate on new systems ; but lieliAche meet become
.the Ortiage in the caecution,,siti them, conlithioar.*.
kJ! e his assent to such ~proceeding. .1% o.t.i
The Earl of SiOlitA spoke to favour of viol
in the,Committee. . - •• • ~so . .
The LORD' COANCEtLOR • cuswolimeofei . - •
tha gyssat-legallearai9g of...the Noble and Laaraltd
Mover ; : but cousidertng the lateness of the iSisslor. a •
stun, recemmteded tpe postpouement Of sill tapas
they proceediogi•AWnent Session. , ft.. -t;
' • Earl STAN fIOPB maintsioed the .propriety of
eommitting the Bill, when any-alteration that was •
necessary might be made in •it. His Lordship did
pot perceive On great difficulty of adopting the
principle of the cenia Logorains into the English.
law. The Learned •tortlselight, in a Commit.
toe, compare all: their differencopitiimor, end de.
eide on which was best. Ile liked to teee the No..
pletand-Ilarned Lawyers trim one 'nether, and
If sevia itinitik, tremble of' trimming-diens a 11...
Ea LilaUlirdgi'kirliS.Villint 'MliAntat..reiniti; ILA Od. Oli the
iliffscorty Noble Lords now semendierdiscover in -
altering old laws and forms. Ife3eilll a friend to
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the Bill, .which- was-founded qn a principle which
had been happily and conveniently in practice, to
the North of the 'tweed, 'far those heedred and
fifty years. •! ..r, t.l
Lord ERSKINE amitauded .fife
,molteala and
object 9f the framer.atl, tikes& of -the Bills hat
reminded the, House, .that at this•advaseed period' •
of the Session, they eonfd not erpeet in the Cow..
mittee the assistance •of:his .Noblei Pod Learned
friend, (Lord Ellenboicregh) whose other ateet:'
sari avocations would ..preclude his.:ettendance ;
Lied with *hots he entirely coiosidrk•as to the
linpeoprieil of impesing to impriMiblekaask,Spoo. '
the JO/Ali • who ere eleeady•oreritiethesedWith
I work. He remembered, being admitted. a rreatebee
lof the Royal Society, on which •• °cookie a long
1::8414 learned' lecture was reid on the shhjeit of ID
'particular fish ; and it was gravely shewn, that it
that llsa had• been possessed of soother fin in*
perticsilarlalact, it would 'hive been enabled *
swim with a far greater degree . of- velocityh-
'Ho who made. tba fish, ' keew bob
(wLhalatitwhasternlt necessary for-ib purposes: So, im-
this case, -cries*. they gave the Judges' II; new
some greater powers than native 'had. bestsweal
upon man, they outer could fulfil- the linguae'.
of this Bill,' " • . . 1
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The Earl.of paroLK defeided.the pripeiplg. ...'
of the Bill t'virid, eatieed, with, meek *regret, t 4::
great delays and expenses that Occurred in alise*.
all our law proceedings. . .Tbere were 300 toss:
before that House in,arrear; mid in ono case only;
shall; iit,the 'AP:burgh, 'Peerage, an eZpeace, he
tuaderstood, h.tl been already incurred of 80,0004
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