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of ignominy behind him. How would Lard Joug Rus-
SELL look as a wheeler in the same omnibus with DICK
SHELL—poets though they both be ? And drollest of all—
how would Lord BROUGHA M, the King's Highland cor_
respondent, look beside O'CONNELL as Chancellor for
Ireland ?

All this is only ludicrous. The factions who have dis
comfited Sir ROBEItT PEET, would tear each other to
pieces if they were intrusted with the formation} of a
cabinet. The scramble for place and pelf would be like
that caused by throwing, a piece of carrion into a mena-
gerie of hungry wolves and hyenas. There would not
be more than a scent for the half of them; in which case
dire would be the strife amongst themselves, furious their
attacks, mortal their conflict.

No, the country must be spared the calamity of an
administration equally powerless and characterless. But,
the-cominons, we are told, by some of the softheads,
would impeach" Sir ROBERT PEEL were he to advise the
dissolution of the present parliament. Impeach him !
before whom ? The peers of Great Britain ? They
would kick the impeachment out of the house in five
minutes. The King has a right to dissolve parliament
when, and as often as, he pleases. It is a, constitutional
act in the.-truest sense of that word. The annual parlia-
ment menthe HUMES and WAKLEYS—cannot surely
object to half-yearly or quarterly parliaments if need
be. The members .of the house are presumed to
he the representatives of the people. Have not then
the people the right " to do what they like with
their own Y" If they are satisfied with their present re-
presentatives they would of course return them, and we
would be, in a few.weeks hence,-exactly where we are at
present, certainly not in a worse position. lithe electors
,he dissatisfied with them, as in many instances they
have great reason tobe,they would select more proper and
cOmpeteni men, and--what then ? THE COUNTRY
WOULD BE SAVED ! Twenty additional conserva-
tives, or old in the House of Commons would turn
the scale in favour of.. Sir ROBERT PEEL; and surely it
would not be difficult to secure that number in England.
We promise the right honourable baronet four, if not
five, from the county of Lancaster alone, and one of these
we calculate would come from Liverpool—vice EWART,
superannuated ! At any rate, there is no other alternative.
The KING may accept the premier's resignation, but he
must be brought hack again before the month of June.
If the King should decline for the present to accept his
resignation, a dissolution must immediately follow, as a
matter of course. We conclude in the words of our
gifted namesake' of London, the Standard:—

"LET ALL THOSE WHO FEEL THE VALUE TO TIIE IN-
TERESTS OF THE NATION OF FIRM, TEMPERATE, AND
STEADY GOVERNMENT, POUR IN THEIR ADDRESSES.

•• LET ALL WHO'WOULD MAINTAIN TILE KING'S PRE-
ROGATIVE POUR IN THEIR ADDRESSES.
" LET ALL wpo WOULD DEFEND A GOSPEL CHURCH
FROM BEING OVERPOWERED BY POPERY POUR IN THEIR
ADDRESSES."

The truth is now beginning to ooze out. Unnecessary
haste invariably indicates a strong desire on the part of
the originator of a measure either to advance it for state
or pressing purposes, or to commit a fraud. If a case of
strong exigency, certain allegations are made and be-
lieved; which carry to all minds a presumptive conviction
of its necessity. if no evidence he offered, and no press-
ing, events stated, then there is reason to suppose
that the act of legislation aims at undivulged
jects, and that fraud is committed in order to carry a
point which .would not, which could not, be carried if
the real facts of the case were properly ascertained.
The occurrences of the last few days have placed the
stamp of fraud upon the arguments and the statements of
Lord JOHN RUSSELL. We were not unprepared for this.
There was a haste about Lord JOHN RussELL's proposi-
tion in reference to the Irish church which betokened an
uneasiness of mind—an anxiety caused by a fear of dis-
covery—an apprehension that bespoke a misgiving—a
feverish positiveness which would nut lizard any delay
lest inquiry might expose or defeat it. We knew there
was something wrong.

It has been the uniform rule of parliament, when any
Measure is suppoied to require amendment, for the pro-
pounder of the aniendinent to propose it when_the bill is,
according to- parliamentary language, in committee.
The motion of Lord JOHN Russm. was avowedly pro-
posed as an amendment to Sir HENu HAROINGE'S tithe
bill. The noble lord, however, did not wait for the in-
troduction of the bill. He propoOri and carried a clause
to be added to the bill actually before thebill had been
read a first time. And Why ? Because Lord JOHN
RUSSELL knew that fie had made certain statements re-
lative to population and revenue in Ireland which were
untrue, and that the falsehood would be discovered be-
fore the lapse of many days. Lord Jvms pretended to
found his statements, upon returns obtained from the
church commissioners. It turns cut that this was not the
case. The noble lord's statements, whatever impression
they might have made on the house, were a tissue of
falsehoods from beginning to end. The following will
explain how

LORD -JOHN RUSSELL'S FACTS !
On Monday evening Lord John Russell brought forward, in
the House of Commons, his 'Potion respecting the Irish church.
This motion gave rise to a very protracted debate, of which it is
impossible for us to gibe adetatird report in our present number.
We shall return to the subject in next Tuesday's Guardian.—
Meanwhile, we beg leave to observe, that the statistical state-
ments made by his lordship respecting the protestant population
and the revenues of the established church of Ireland are so
grossly erroneous as -to atfoi it str,,ng evidence that he is either
completely ignorant of the subject which he has chosen to dis-
cuss,
or has falsified the facts connected with it in a most
extraordinary manner. 'For instance, he states that the whole
of the protestant population in Ireland does not exceed 750,000
individuals, and of these 400,044 are within the ecclesiastical
province of Armagh ! ! This is a most monstrous misrepre-
sentation. From what data does this nobleman draw such
strange conclusions t He talks; foriooth, of a comparative
statement of the "increase and. decrease" of protestants and
Roman catholics in several counties in Ireland. ".In the county
of Kilkenny, in 1731, there were," he says, " 1055 protestants ;
and in 1831, but 945." He adds, that "in Stuart's History of
Armagh, at the same period, the protestants were computed as
being three to one when compared with the catholics ; and at
the present time they were but one to three." Now Dr. Stuart,
the senior proprietor and editor of this journal, takes this op-
portunity of publicly stating- to4tis -lordship, and to all whom it
may concern, that in the-" IliitOry of Armagh," of which he is .
the author, no such assertion is made. In fact, it must ap-
pear 'evident, even on the slightest glance at Lord Russell's
speech, that he has derived his information at second hand from
factious men, who had never perused the work to which he
alludes. If this statesman, who acts so conspicuous a part as a
leader in the House of Commons, had taken the trouble even to
look at the title-page of the historical work to which be refers,
as affording proof of the remarkable decrease of the relative
numbers of the protestants Of Ireland, as compared in the year
1834 with those of the same body that bad existed in •the year
1731, he would have at once seen that the individuais who fur-
nished him with the statement which he has obtruded on the
attention of the House of Commons were gross deceivers.—
" Stuart's Armagh" was published in the sear
.181 S, and. it is
therefore impossible-that Lord John •It 0.4011, ovany other per-
son, could derive iuturtuatiuu from it. respecting the number of
protestants in Irelitlid in the year 1831..
Dismissing this subject, let us. attend to another of his lord-
ship's assertions,. :The diocese of Down, which is now united to
that of Connor, contains, as he alleges, but 30,583 members of
the established church. . Now, ;we beg leave to inform his
lordship that the parish church of Belfast alone contains, at the
present moment, '20,000 inetnbers of that communion. Bally-
notcarret, which is a suburb of .this town, comprises in its
boundaries a population of betwixt five and six thousand, of
whom nearly 2000 belong; as has' been found by a late Census,
to the established chorcn. Will it he pretended that Lisburn
and its adjacent districts, together with all the other towns,
villages, hamlets, and rural habitations which abound in this
populous and protestant diocese, contain but 8(X0t) individifals in
connexion. with the church of Ireland ? But protestant as this
diocese is, his
.lordship, or his prompters, have discovered that
61,465 Roman cathiilies reside within its boundaries. From what
statistical work, or other source at information, he derives his
knowledge of this alleged fact, he has not, we believe, conde-
scended to inform us.,-.l3clfast Guardian.

* The subject of Dr. Stuart's work is limited to the history of
the city of Armagh ; and the volume does not contain, from
beginning to end, a single passage such as that quoted by Lord
J. Russell, or anything to the same effect.

We should like to know by whose authority or per--
mission a set of fellows were allowed, during a portion
of yesterday, to annoy all the respectable inhabitants of
Liverpool by clattering the bells of St. Nicholas' Church,
and ringing what they are phased to call a- "merry
peal" in honour of the defeat of his Majesty's ministers.
If these fellows have no other honest occupation we think
they might be much better employed un the tread-mill.
Certainly they would not give so much offence there. Is
it seemly, is it decent, that the bells of a protestant church
should be allowed to' peal in honour of a triumph ob-
tained by the enemies of the church ? If one and all of
these ringers be not immediately dismissed by the proper
authorities they. will not receive .their deserts. They
should not be permitted to make sport by that sort of
rope any longer. If they most have a peal let them
mount an old tea kettle on the top of some catholic
chapel and beat away till they are tired ; but they should
not be suffered to insult the members of the church in
this disgraceful manner.

THE LIVER

'-'T"tiR: 'J^-'^?.~'T ~iTIGY`l'artK'.lU~7YlF _ts.a~

LEEDS COMMERCIAL NEWSROOM

We beg leave, in this public manner, (for a private com-
munication, we fear, would be of no use) to call the atten-
tion of the subscribers to the "Leeds Commercial News-
room" to a case of great hardship practised towards thiq
journal by those gentlemen who have the management-of
that establishment. The LIVERPOOL STANDARD was,
in February, 1834, ordered to be sent to the Newsroom,
and it was sent accordingly. By some mistake, how-
ever, owing to a similar order coming through another
quarter, two copies instead of one have been supplied
to the room since the period above mentioned. None
of them was ever returned, and no suspicion existed as
to the Mistake. On application being made, a few weeks
Ago, for payment, upwards of a hundred copies of the
.LIVERPOOL STANDARD were returned,. and payment ten-
dered forangin'ateitd o'f two copies:

Now, we have to submirlo. the subscribers, the ma-
jority of whom we believe to be gentlemen and men o
honour, whether this is treatment they would warrant,
in any of the ordinary transactions of life. Thesecond
paper was regularly received in the Newsroom, stamped
with the stamp of the room, read by the subscribers,
and filed, we have no d.)ubt, for more than twelve
months. In doing so, and using them in this manner,
the subscribers became liable for the debt incurred, and
in law they are liable. If the committee of management
did not wish more than one copy they should have re-
turned the other as soon as they received it, and ad-
vised us by letter or otherwise on the subject.
Having explained the nature of the hardship, we leave
• the case in the hands of the subscribeis.

SOUTH LANCASHIRE_ CONSERVATIVE

ASSOCIATION.

Yesteray, at' half-past eleven o'clock, a highly-respectable
meeting of the members of the South Lancashire Conservative
Association was held in the long room of the Legh Arms Hotel,
Newton, for the purpose of taking into cons,deratiun the alarm-
ing state of public affairs, consequent upon the factious opposi-
tion his Majesty's ministers have met with from the House if
Commons since they have held the reins of government. The
meeting was hastily convened, but not ng this the room
was completely filled by the most :nil tential of the cousarvative
body from Manchester, Liverpool, Warrington, Bolton, Onus-
kirk, Southport, and others of the intermediate towns. William
Hutton, Esq., of Hutton Park, teas called to.the chair, and after
stating the oject of the meeting, it was proposed that a com-
mittee of six gentlemen, each limn a different town, should
retire and prepare addresses to his Majesty and Sir Robert
Peel, the former expressive of the confidence the association
placed in the administration of Sir Robert Peel, and the latter
exhorting Sir Robert not to yield to the factious opposition that
bad manifested itself in the 'House of Commons by resigning
the trust confided to him by his King for the good of his country.
After an absence of about an hour the committee returned, hav-
log prepared the addresses, which will be found among our
advertisements.

The secretaries of the district associations were then asked by
the chairman if the inhabitants of the towns in which they re..
sided had displayed the energetic feeling in support of the ad-
ministration which it had been reported they had done, in an •
swer to which it appeared that Manchester had forwarded an ad-
dress got up in three days,_ signed by 6747 individuals, and
Liverpool one signed by 6639, got up iu two days. The inter-
mediate towns, embracing Rochdale, Warrington, Bolton,
Wigan, Orniskirk, Ashton, Bury, Leigh, and Present, had also
forwarded numerously signed addresses, and parisheS of a' less
population were named as having pursued the same course.,
The immediate object of the meeting having thus been dis-
posed of, the general business of the association was entered
into, and a large accession of strength was added to the associa-
tion by the admission of new members from various parts of
the county. The small town of liochdale alone placed upon
the books 50, and the association which, in its infancy, en-
rolled but few, now boasts of 1600 subscribers. The new Con-
servative Ilall in the course of erection, at the back of the ho-
tel, for the convenience of the members at their meetings, is
expected to be finished fur the anneal meeting iu • Au,gust. A
letter from the Marquis of Salisbury, produced by the chair-
man, announced that patriotic nobleman (auit:ngst other dis-
tinguished individuals) as a subscriber.
Thanks having been voted to William Hullon; Esq., the
Chairman, for his excellent services on the present, as well as
on all other occasions, the meeting was about separating when
an express arrived from the Alanchestel Courier-otlice announc-
ing the- resignation of ministers. It now became a matter of
discussion whether the addresses voted should not be recalled,
and others adopted; but, as there was no .ofricial intimation of
the resignation, it was resolved that the addresses voted should
be despatched to London the same evening, nod that the meet-
ing should adjourn until• half-past eleven o'clock on Thursday
next, to take into consideration the props iety of calling a county
meeting.