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HOUSE OF COMMONS.-=lSAl'cnni-v; FEB. 28.

PRESENTATION OF THE ADDRESS TO Tub: KING, AND HIS
MAJESTY'S ANSWER. _

This day the House of Commons, agreeably to adjournment,
met at one o'clock, at which time the Speaker, dressed in his
_s•Obes of office, took the chair. Sion afterwards Sir Henry
Corry, a gentleman belonging to the King's household,, en-
tered, and addressing himself to the chair, said that he 'bad
waited on his Majesty for the purpose of ascertaining at what
hour his Majesty would find it convenient to receivetheaddress
•ikauswer to his most gracious speech, andhis Majesty had
been graciously pleased to appoint two o'clock that day, at St.
seen graciously pleased to appoint two o'clock that day, at St.
ines's Palace, for that purpose. The Speaker acknowledged
the announcement, and Sir Henry Corry:withdrew,
By half-past one there were about 130 or 140 members pre-
sent, including a very large portion of the Irish members and
I.:tiglish radicals. FeW conservative memliers attended. There
were at least three times as many reformers. Lord Sandon,
the mover of the address, and the attorney-general, appeared in
their court dresses. ,Lord Morpeth, the mover of the amend-
ment, Mr. Bramston, the seconder of the address, and Mr.
Bannerman, the seconder of the amendment, were dressed in
full uniform. Sir Edward Knatchbull and Mr. Goulburn,
4hu were the only ministers present, appeared iq the Windsor
nti ifortn;

SiralottGa. CLERK gave notice that on Monday he should
%use that tima house do resolve itself into a committee of the
Whole house on the supplies. ' • •
Mr. Rommel( said that as he saw the right hon. gentleman,
Mr, Goulburn, in his place, he begged to take the opportunity
of giving him notice that he had two petitions to present to the
house on matters of great importance, and he (Mr. Roebuck)
wished to know when it.would suit the convetnience of the right
hon• gentleman to have them presented. thOnght_it,zight_
to give this notice; as he consicferedit highly prulial a their plc=
sentation would lead to sorne•discussion. The one was.from
certain persons in F.reshford, praying that the house would prel
sent an address to his Majesty, calling'on his„Majesty,to diked
his attorney-general to prosecute certain earr'sh-ollicers for its-
Proper CO;:duct, relative to some transactions connected with
the administration of the pour laws 'id that place. The other
related to the present state of-Lower Canada.
Mr. GoceaumN, as we understood• him, stud that he would
Mimi any day most convenient•to the hon. mernber for Bath, to
receive the petitions. •
'Mr. Rommel: then appointed Tuesday for that purpose.
It being now twenty minutes to two, Sir Gao. moved
the adjournment of the house, which accordingly took place.
, The Speaker then proceededin his state cawithg rria
mee, followed
bV about thirty other carriages and cabriolets mbers to.
James's Palace, to present the address. In the speaker's
CaYriage were Henry Sclup)ur, Esq., Sergeant-at-Arms, and his
deputy, and the Rev. Mr. Vane., the speaker's chaplain.
rhe procession attracted numeuse concourse of spectators,
a great many of wh nn accompanied it to the palace. It pro-
ceeded up Parlianicut-street, passed. Chaiing'.cross, and along
It reached St. James's precisely at two o'clock.
The Speaker read this address as amended., which he did in a
,firni Voice, to his Majesty, on which his Majesty made the fol-
lowing reply : --

_ .
" I thank you sincerely for the assurances which you hare
given me, in this loyal and dutiful address, of your disposition
to Co-operate with me in the improvement, with a view to the
Inaintenance, of our institutions in church and state.
" I learn with regret that you do not concur with me as to the.
D°liey of the appeal which I have recently made ta the sense of
the- people.

" I never have exercised, and I never will exercise, any of
the prerogatives which I hold, excepting for the single purpose
of Promoting the great end for which they are entrusted to me—
the:public good; and I confidently trust that no measure con-
ducive to the general interests will be endangered or interrupted
in its progress by the opportunity which I have afforded to my
faithful and loyal subjects of expressing their opinions through
the choice of their representatives in parliament."
, The Speaker and the other gentlemen then bowed to his ma-
Jes jy and withdrew.
His majesty appeared in good spirits. The reading of the
ddress and receiving the King's answer occupied half an
'PAIL

bRATII FROM Cijoxa DAMP.—On the morning of Monday
"Ist, a lad in the employment of Messrs. Cordwell and Co.; at
telt Colliery, Boothroyd-lane, near Dewsbury, was suffocated
~Y choke damp. There were several persons in the coal pit at
the time, but fortunately they escaped without any material in-
'"3'.— Leeds Intelliyencer.
,
AX Attic• OLE ARHANGEMENT.—A hardy tar who has been
weathering the storms of the last two winters, at the out-harbours
of Newthundland, arrived at his native village in this county,
about a fortnight since, and one day iu the present week his
faithtul rib, more to his surprise thou to his satisfaction, pre-
iseuted him with a "son and heir." Jack pondered on this' un-
e.,4Psected honour until his mind was distressed with doubts.
,Luevil a bit !" said he, "is he either son or heir of mine I am
" Why will you make a fool of yourself (said his
'ife) by-disturbing your mind about trifles? Call the boy my
and your Heir! and the thing is settled at once."—Westera
27:nes.
11:`e Earl of Fife, formerly so distinguished for the lead be
,Col( in fashion aud theatricals, and a lord of the bedchamber to
c.,15 late and present Majesty, has retired to his seat, Balvenie
Bauffshire, where his lordship is now residing in com-
Darative seclusion.. Lord Fife served as a major-general in the
the
anisli army during the Peninsular war, and was wounded at
battles o( Talavera and Matagoida, near Cadiz, in 1810.
The earl. at that period had oat succeeded to the family honours,
4" was then st yled Viscount Macduff. •
CaLLANTity.—A person advertises in the Boston Daily Ad-
rrtiger that he has found a lady's kidglove, near Mrs. Le Cain's,
# earl-street, and adds whoever has lost the same,beauti-
iul as
Ciuderelta, may 'have the glove and the hand of the gentle-
4;an with it, if agreeable to her.—American Paper.
Ttriats.—The first' Charter by which tithes were granted in.
14,t1land may be considered as a curious historical dacument.-
wut following is given as a literal translation of it:—" I, Ethel-
m,? re, by the grace of God, King of the West Sazona, &c.,
th tlie advice of the Bishops, Earls, and all persons of distinn-
-I,"n ha my dominions. bane, for the health of my soul, the good
peopk, and the prosperity of my kingdom, taken the
thruraoub ble resolution of granting the tenth part of the lands
ray whole kingdom to the church and ministers of
,7tiliglun, to be enjoyed by them with all the privilege of a free
11,-.esure. mid discharged from all incttrubrances incident to lay
t
.‘ Ibis grant has been made by us in honour of Jesus Ct„-isti-
. .hl-ssed Virgin, and al Saints ; and out of regard to the
idps,(a,l Soleninity, and that Almighty God might vouchsafe his
83, at the feast of Easter."lngs on us and our
4, poeterity.—Dated at Wilton, A.D.

tribe Eiberpool ,Stanbar,

TLTE.4I);IFL'AYORY.I_I7G, 31_112611 3, 1335.

Ministers hae sustained another defeat! After a de-
late which lasted for three nights, and in which all the
argument was on one side, the force of faction prevailed,
absurdity triumphed over reason, and Lord Jorvt lins-
strz, the repealers, and the destructives, carried the
amendment by a majority of ,even.

It is plain, therefore, that so long as this phalanx keeps
together, it will be impossible for the House of Com-
mons to carry on the public business for the advantage of
the country.. No great mischief is yet done, and the
narrowness of the majority proves that it has not exten-
sive or overwhelming powers to do evil, particularly
when ministers have the confidence of the other house;
but still it is powerful enough to prevent much good be-
kg done, by wasting the time of the houtie, and ob-
structing the progress of those desirable and wholesome
measures which! Sir 11013ERT PEEL, has pledged himself to
introduce. Events may occur of a nature calculated to
break up the
.unnatural combination" of the -whigs with
the repealers arid the levellers; -but unless they occur
soon, We see no other course of policy which is open to
the administration than. a fresh appeal to the people. In
England the conservatives have already a majority' of
upwards of thirty; and- all that is required is another
contest to secure for the King and his servants such, an
increased number:of loyal and indepenilput reptesenta-
.tives as would counterbalance the factions majorities of
Scotland and Ireland. •

But would this new appeal produce any. such result?
We are confident of it ; and no man knows it better or'
dreads it more than Lord JOHN RUSSELL himself. The
electors of Devonshire have a man ready to nominate in
his room, about whose success we are assured there can
.
be no doubt whatever. ln this great county we could
return two if not three more conservatives than we have
at preSent; and, if the, people-of Manchester would but
drop their own local politics, and do their duty to their
King and country; we might" return four instead of
three. •

After the words which the King spoke in answer to the
amended address, we cannot entertain any misgivinki
whatever as to the result. • We here insert the whole of
his majesty's reply :
"I thank you sincerely for the assurances which you
have given me, in this loyal and dutiful address, of your
disposition to co-operate with me in the improvement,
with a view to the maintenance of our institutions -in
church and state.

" I learn with regret that you do not concur with me
as to the policy of the appeal.which I have recentir made
to the sense of my people.
"lr never have exercised, and I never will exercise,
any of the prerogatives which I hold, excepting for the
single purpose of promoting the great end for• which they
are entrusted to me—the public good ; and I confidently
ti ust that no measure conducive to the general interests
will be endangered or interrupted in its progress by the
opportunity which I have afforded to my faithful and
loyal subjects of expressing their opinion through the
choice of' their representatives in parliament."
The commons complain that the king was ad% :•led to
dissolve the late parliament. They demur to the "
licy
.of the appeal"' which the Bovereign "recently
made",to the sense of his people. What is this but tell-
ing the King that he was unwisely, and improperly, and
wickedly adviied to appeal to his people ? What is this
but telling the- people that they are guilty of folly and
crime in returning to parliament their present. represen-
tatives .In short, what other conclusion 'can we come
to than this--that the King has no right to dissolve his
parliament without the consent of a majOrity of the House
of Commons, and that the electors have no right to re-
turn new members without the sanction of their late re
'presentatives ? •

For insolence and absurdity- we never heard of any
thing to match this. It conveyS a glaring and open in-'
suit to the people of Engtpd. They are.tuld• that they
have no right to exercise their Suffrages, (r change their
members, or proceed to a new election, without first ob-
taining the consent of Lord JottK RussELL, Mr. DANIEL
O'Cortgt.t,, Mr. WILLIAM EWART, DANIEL WHITTLE.
HAnva-r, Jon GULLY,• and honest 'JOSEPH PEASE, the
quaker I Good Goya! is it come to this ? Are the peo-

pie of England so spiritless and so degraded in intellect
and intelligence' that they must endure this wanton
stilt without resenting it ? Are they to be twitted and
snubbed, kicked and cuffed, elbowed and bullied by such
dapper statesmen or such vulgar demagogues as Lord
JOHN and the Irish beggar ?i Forbid it all that is manly,
and noble,- and independent in the British character I
His Majesty calinly but courageously replies, " I
never have exercised, and I never will exercise, any of
the prerogatives which I hold, excepting for the single
purpose of promoting the great end for which they are
intrusted. to me—the PUBLIC GOOD." The King here
gives a dignified but a positive denial to the representa-
tiphs of the seven whO foi m the majority of his " faith-
ful commons;" and he accompanies his denial with a re-
primand that, had there been any sense of shame in
Lord JOHN, would have reduced him to the. petrifaction of
a monkey. The Speaker, whig though he be, must have
felt the humiliating position he occupied, heading as he
did the accurnulated fragments of faction, the joints of
the tail, the lickspittles of littmE, and the coterie of de-
structives, who advocate annual parliaments, and who
were actually, through him, complaining that the King
had dissolved a biennial parliament—the Speaker, we
say, must have felt degraded when be looked at the
unprincipled quaCks behind him, and listened to the mild
but severe rebuke of his offended sovereign. There is
not a bagman in all England who would have envied the
situation of Mr. JAIKEs ABERCROMBy,.dressed.as he was
in the turned off robes of Mr. Commissioner ADAMS.
There never was -a more-impressive scene in our history,
and it will never be forgotten.
Electors'..of England l you see the low place you hold
in the estimation of same three htindred of your repre-
sentatives. You are accused of- liming exercised your
political 'privileges unwarrantably in returning your
.present rAembers. A knot of Scotch a'nd Irish reformers
and repealers assert in the face of, yOur gracious Sove-
reign that it was impolitic to allow you to declare
your sentiments as you did at the hustings in January
last. These factious men are not content to censure the
exercise of the King's undoubted prerogative; they
usurp the liberty of arraigning the King's acts, and your
decisions. They insolently usurp the right of dictating
to his Majesty as to the time when, and the particular
circumstances under which, he should exercise his right
of dissolving parliaments; nay, they go further and au-
daciously claim the right of deciding when you, the peo-
pie of England, should and'should not elect your repre-
sentatives!

Electors of England! are you prepared to submit to
this most insolent,. arbitrary, and .unconstitutional dic-
tation ? has a majority of the House of.COmmons the
right to sit in judgment upon your undoubted privileges
as electors, as well-as upon The prerogatives of the King?
They have no:stieli right—the power they, exercise is
usurped—the censures they pass aie unmerited will
you then permit them to abuse the privileges you hate
conferred, and .violate the trust you have repOsed in them
'with impunity ?

This remains to be seen. You will be called upon to
decide the question 'of right at the next election. That
election may not be far distant. It is demOnstrated that
the property, the, ntelligence, the real interests, and the
sense of the country, are represented by the conserva-
tives in p"arliament. There are five parties in par-
liament. First, the conservatives with Sir ROBERT
PEEL at 'their- head. Second, the old whigs headed
by Lord STANLEY, Sir JAMES GRAHAM, and Sir
MATTHEW RIDLEY. the new-light whigs led by
Lord JOHN RUSSELL. Fourth, the'English radicals com-
manded -by lIt7ME, IVAiiaunTort, and GROTE. Fifth,
the Irish repealers headed by-O'CoNsEt.t. Of these,the
most numerous party is the conservative one. Its num:
betS amc out to at least 260. Lord STANLEY cannot coin-
tn-inil 30 votes. Lor'd JOHN RUSSELL and the late mL
nisterial- party may have 170. The radicals number
about 160; and the Irish repealers amount to, say, 3.5.

Now, how is it possible to form an administeat!on out
:of the RUSgELL, HUME; or O'CONNELL section,:?
are all at variance among themselves. The' repealers
hate the 'whigs just as much as they do the tories; some
of the •radicals hate both ; and Mr. SPRING RICE, who at
present votes with O'CONNELL for factious purposes,
would to-morrow, if he could, pass a law to silence the
Irish demagogue for ever. HUME and O'CONNELL do
not draw together except on occasions when the interests
of either do not come into conflict; but the Engl:sh ra-
dicals hate O'CONNELL as cordially as two rival quacks
can pessibly hate each other. O'CONNELL has no influ-
ence in England. He has repeatedly
,tried to form a
party here, and has invariably failed. Even the rabble
of London,! Who returned Mr. Tom DUNCOMBE, Dr.
LUSHINGTON, and Mr. DANIEL WIIITTLE HARVEY, would
scout O'CONNELL, and if need be, fling him into the
Thames. Lord STANLEY, being too conservative fur the
new -whigs, could of course expect' no support from the
HUME radicals ; and as to the Irish destructives, his
lordship is the object of their open denunciation.

Where, then, is the party oat of which the materials of
an administration, to endure for six weeks, or even six
days, is to be found ? Lord Jorrs RUSSELL does not
command one-third of a majority,, and his very name, as
minister, would make the house sick, and throw the corm-
.try into convulsions. ACME is out of the question, and
O'CONNELL is more so. Mr. SPRING RICE would not be
tolerated for eight and forty hours. Lord PALMERSTON
is shelved ; we shall never hear again of that splendid
personification of a tailor statesman. Mr. POULETT
THOMSON never had any pretensions above those of a
commission-agent in the drysaltery or' dye stuff line.
Out, then, with him ; he is nobody. Old COBBETT and
THOMAS ATTWOOD quarrel upon the only subject which
they profess- to understand. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT is
Morally defunct. Sir JOHN CAM HOBIIOUSE is an unfor-
tanate non-entity. The Scotch members, on the side of
ultra reform,. are, by the blessing of Providence, totally
deStitute of talents; Mr. BANNERMAN, of Aberdeen,
being one of the best specimens, and yet we question if
he can read. I.s .to speaking- or writing . the English
lapguage, that is entirely out of the question. If the
Scotch radicals have no chance in the formation of a mi-
nistry, the Irish repealers have not even a shadow of one.
It would be a comical illustration of the progress of Eng-
lish power towards ruin and infamy if we could, see five
O'CONNELLS in the cabinet. We shosrld be' equilly un-
fortunate and unhappy if we saw our. own illustrious
member, Mr. EWART, quoting Latin on the treasury
bench, and the loud laugh raised not so much at his per-
sonal expense, as at present, but at him in his new charac-
ter as an apology for an English minister. No, no ; -this is
going too far; there are limits to absurdity.- Children
laugh at the cow jumping over the moon, in the nursery
rhymes; but thehonourable member for Liverpool has
too much taste to enact the part of the bowl running
away with the spoon.

We have exhausted the list, and we see no man, or set
of men, in the present House of Commons competent to
govern this country but those whom the King has se-
lected. A grave duty, therefore, devolves upon his ma-
jesty, and an e,nually grave and important duty upon his
majesty's subjects. If the faction which now interrupts
the business of parliament, and has offered so wanton an
install, to the people of England, should he'iticluced to de-
sist from their distracting_ opposition, we might then cal-
culitte upon the ready ..settletnent of many important
questions; but if they continue banded together for the
pnrpose of nullifying all the. conservative intentioni.of
the ministry, the King will then feel the imperious ne-
cessity, in the discharge of his royal duty, to make ano-
ther appeal to his people. There is nothing to fear.
The King still lives in the hearts of all the good and
great of the vast majority of his loving and affectionate
subjects.' He has only to announce that he is embarrassed
by the conduct of various factions, and the nation would
respond to his appeal in a temper that would sweep the
RUSSELLS and the O:CONNELLS from the face of the
earth. His caajesty has only to.speak the word, and mil-
lions of the brave,. and held, and true would rally under
the royal standard. His maj!sty has only to inform us
thathe'iS beset with and annoyed by the machinations of
a popish and. infidel faction, and the church has within
her pale ChanfpionS enough to reduce Ireland to the vas-
salage of a colony, and make the thunder of the yeomen