The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-11-21 00:00:00

'MEETING OF THE TOWN COUNCIL.

The CHAIRMAN said, the business now before the Mr, Bt)SHELL.—The old Finance Committee was in
council consisted of the following motion, ei which notice existence assuredly.
had been given by Mr. Bushell :—" That a special corn- The CHAIRMAN.—It ceased on the Ist of November,
mittee be appointed to inquire into the charge brought sir.
against the house of Messrs. Sands, Turner, and Co. ; Mr. Busnlee.—Did not they cease on the 9th ?
and further, into the mode in which the town-dues are The TowN-cennx.—By the standing orders they cease
collected, and as to the general management of that im- on the 9th, but the practice is, that all the committees are
portant department of the corporation revenue." out of office on the 31st of October.
Mr. PARKER rose, on a question of privilege, and Mr. BUSHELL.—WeII, we shall take another view.
called for Mr. Corrie's letter, addressed to the council, in He thought the result had proved that the ex-mayor
which his (Mr. Parker's) name was mentioned, to be did not make a judicious selection of gentlemen- (A
read. laugh.) First of all, he had called to his aid a gentle-
Mr. BLACKBURN said he was at a loss to know for man (Mr. G. 11. Lawrence) who, though he might
what purpose the letter was to be read. have no hand in the death, the municipal death of Mr.
Mr. PARKER said he was personally attacked in it. Sands, was to be benefitted 'by his dying, by walking
Mr. BLACKBURN did not consider it an attack at all, into the civic chair. He had also called to his aid an.
The DEPUTY TOWN-CLERK here read that portion of other gentleman (Mr. Hugh Hornby), who, by bis
the letter which referred to Mr. Parker, and in which it speeches, showed how strongly prejudiced he was in the
was stated that the latter, after having made a low bow, matter, for he not only called into question the deci-
took his leave. sion of the mercantile committee, but he spoke of them
Mr. PARKER thought it very evident, from this allusion as having erected a standard of morality by which he
to himself, that Mr. Corrie had his favourites in the would not be measured. This gentleman (Mr. Hornby)
council. He should like to know whether Mr. Corrie, if was shielded so much by the barriers of diplomatic
asked questions by certain members of the council, would courtesy, that it was impossible to say anything to him
think it necessary to record whether those gentlemen had which would induce him to break them down. How
made a low bow, or any bow at all? (Hear, hear.) strong then must have been his prejudicesp—when, be-
The CHAIRMAN here called upon Mr. Bushell to pro- cause the committee of merchants had given a different
ceed. verdict from what he would have given, he said their
Mr. BUSHELL said he must beg to receive the atten- morality was not to be considered the standard for his mo-
tion of the council while he proceeded to lay before them rality'; but surely Mr. Hornby must be induced to change
the motion which he felt it his duty to put on the books his country and his clime, for a higher standard of wo-
of the council. If he had not felt that he had taken some- rality than such men as Mr. Brown and Mr. Potter
thing like a prominent part in the proceedings which took presented was not to be found in Great Britain. (Hear,
place at the last council, it would have been much more hear.) Mr. Bushell concluded by proposing his motion.
pleasing to him that some other member should have Mr. GRIFFITH seconded it.
placed this or a similar motion on the books. But he Mr. BIRKETT said, he did not object to the committee
felt this—and he trusted the explanation would be consi- being appointed, nor to the first part of the motion, but
dered as his vindication—that it was important that those he had a decided objection to the latter part. He thought
who were_prominent in some degree in making Mr. Sands it could not tend to any good result to enter upon the
the mayor should show to the council the sincerity of the general injury, land that it might possibly lead to a great
views which had induced them to take the part they did, deal of inquiry to the estate. He concluded by moving,
by being the first to move for a committee to inquire into as an amendment, the first part of the motion—namely,
the charge brought against the house of Mr. Sands. Per- " That a special committee be appointed to inquire into
haps, had he consulted personal motives and considers- the charge brought by the Collector of the Town-dues
Lions, he should have refrained from taking this course ; against the house of Messrs. Sands, Turner, and C 0.,"
but he had not yet arrived at that age of cool deliberation, and by striking out the remainder.
caution and discretion which would induce him to weigh Mr. HODGSON said, they might be or not, as the issue
personal considerations in the balance with any duty, might prove, in an unhappy position, but they had no
public or private. He had endeavoured so to word the alternative now but that of examining into the mode in
motion as that it might speak for itself without entering which their town-dues were collected ; and whether it
into any detailed comment on it. It was divided under was to be attended with a loss to the revenue or a gain,
three heads. The two latter would necessarily merge in was no longer the question. If they were desiring now
the consideration of the first; but still, in order that the to blink the examination from a fear of title or anything
duties of the committee might not be undefined, he thought else, it would show, that instead of being a fit body of
it necessary to give it the wording which it now had in the men to carry out the laws fairly, they were a picked body
papers before the council. The first part was as follows : of men to act the part of the coward. He cared for no
" That a special committee be appointed to inquire into legal quibbles, nor for any lawyer's opinions, not one
the churge brought by the collector of the town dues straw. (Hear, and a laugh.) They were now in a posi-
against the house of Messrs. Sands, Turner and Co-" tion in which they were called upon, as honourable men,
His view of the duties of the committee was this : it was to show that they had a right to the dues they were
not the duty, as he conceived, of this committee to pro- exacting.
ceed,to try Sands and Co., but it was their duty to receive Mr. ISAAC HOLMES said he was ready to defend the
such evidence as he might be prepared to give, either do- house of Sands and Co,, but that he should be afraid,
cumentary or otherwise, to substantiate the charge which for the interests of the council, to take that ground of
he had brought against the house. The onus probandi , defence which he conceived would be perfectly unan-
as he conceived, rested on Mr. Corrie. Doubtless he had swerable. He concluded by saying that he would bring
not brought this charge against a hitherto-considered forward a motion at the next council for the appoint-
eminent house without having good data on which to found ment of a committee to watch the bill which was now
the charge. No doubt he considered well, when he took about to be applied for by the commissioners of Birken-
the most unusual course—the writing of a letter—to head.
bring a charge of this kind, and when instead of acting as Mr. PARKER expressed a hope that the present corn-
he ought, instead of stopping goods upon the quay mittee would be appointed, and that the whole question
cially, and 'by an official act bringing the question to an of the town dues would be probed to the bottom.
issue with Mr. Sands or anybody else. Doubtless, the Mr. EvAsrs hoped the province of the committee
better course would have been for him to stop the goods would not be forestalled, and that it would be recol-
on the quay, and not to have written the letter. lected they were not either to accuse or to defend Mr.
Mr. .NORTH.—He has no power. Sands in the council.
Mr. BUSHELL said it remained to be seen whether he Mr. H. HORNBY called upon the Town-Clerk to
had the power or not. At all events, he must be pre- state whether, as had been asserted by several gentle-
pared to show that the definition between those packages men, the corporation had not any title to the town
of a case and a
nobox, a bale, and a truss, was such as dues? His own belief was, that their title was as good
could'have left possible doubt on the minds of Sands as that of any gentleman to his property.
Mr. NORTH believed the title to the town dues was
and Co. as to the course they should pursue in the enter-
ing of their goods. If Mr. Corrie was not so prepared to as firm as the rock on which the town stood.
it w
sow
woul hat
be the
fo r definiti
comm on of
thee pack
s really was
fart then The TOWN-CLERK said there was not the slightest
d thecommittee to inq how the ground for doubt as to the title. It was just as good
charge against Sands and Co. bad been or could be sub- as that of any gentleman to his estate. Pis latest in-
stantiated. He (Mr. B.) desired not to advance into what formation on the subject, was from a gentleman, now one
the duties of the committee, when appointed, ought to of the judges of the land, and his opinion was, that
be. Upon the last occasion on which the council met, he the title was as clear as any subject could possess to
felt it right to comment on Mr. Corrie's conduct in the any estate in the kingdom.
matter. His course to-day was different. He did not Mr. Ancrrr seconded the amendment, and suggested
come to impugn Mr. Corrie's motives. The subject was that another and a separate committee should be ap.
too grave and important that he shoulddescend to person- pointed to take the whole subject into consideration.
• Mr. LLOYD hoped that the original motion would
be adopted in its present shape, leaving it to the com-
mittee to divide the question with as many parts as
they might think proper, and to report on any particu-
lar part in the first instance without going into the
general question of the management.
The TOWN-CLERK suggested that the amendment
would embrace every subject material to the inquiry.
Mr. BUSHELL said he bad no 'objection to any ver-
bal alteration being made in the motion, which would
still embody his wishes. What he desired to ascertain
was, whether the present charge bad been brought on
good grounds or not.
Mr NORTH said he hungered and thirsted to vindicate
Mr. Corrie from the extremely improper discussions re-
specting him which were going on in some of the public
prints. He pledged himself that he believed he was in a
situation to prove that Mr. Currie's conduct throughout
the affair was not only pure, perfect and faithful, but that
he had been in every respect considerate and friendly to-
wards the party complained against. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. PARKER asked whether the Committee would have
on other houses should the latter be im-

Under these circlienetances, he hoped he should stand free ' THE ALBERT DOCK, AND WAREHOUSES.
from blame in the opinion of the council. (Hear, hear.)
With respect to having his own name placed upon the .
committee, he concurred in the remarks which had been in the early part of March last we gave some account
of the operations, up to that date, in constructing the
made by Mr. Bushell to some extent. It was possible
Dock
t . octlitleand Warehouses, west of the Salthouse
that when the examination should have been gone into, AI
,--in formation of which a considerable space
he might be called upon to give evidence-to state (forming an indenture in the original line of sea-wall, be-
what passed between Mr. Corrie and himself, and tween the Canning Dock Slip, north, and the Duke's
also what fell from Mr. Sands in his presence; and on - . . .N , „ l'•
rier-nesa, soutn,l .iat. ti; ~ii t;.:t.'.l in from tb"'"e" b'"lr this ground, he hoped the Council would allow him to and made available as land for the west wall of new withdraw his name. (Hear, hear.) 'With regard to the dock ; for the warehouses on that side; and also fora ma-
expression he had made use of on the last occasion, whilst •
he was acting as Mayor, and when he stated that there individualsrmeperad beyond them. As the works are accessible to
. not connected with them, only by ticket from
did appear to be a prima facie case against Mr. Sands, the Chairman of the Dock Committee, and as an inspec-
he contended that he was justified in making use of that !i.
on of them by strangers is attended with some difficulty,
expression. He defied any gentleman to read the letter if
not danger, we have again visited them, under the im-
which he had received from Mr. Corrie, and to say
pression that in reporting progress, before the severities
that there was not a prima facie case against Mr. of winter fully set in, we shall gratify many of our readers
Sands. Here was a prima facie case until the cir- who take an
interest in the improvement and extension
cumstances represented were refuted. What else of our harbour accommodations.
could be the meaning of the words? (Hear.) If he, Considering the magnitude of the works, and the ob-
knowing what had been stated by. Mr. Corrie, had shown stacles to he overcome,-more particularly from the ne-
any shyness in making use of such an expression, he cessity found of piling over a great extent, in order effec-
should have neglected his duty; for here was a charge of tually to secure the foundations of most of the outward evasion of the Town-dues, and was he to stand on cere- walling,-we should say that the whole have proceeded
mony in such a case? (Hear, hear.) He had no feeling as rapidly and as favourably as could reasonably be ex-
towards Mr. Sands but a friendly one ' • and he believed
pected, though the prolonged obstructions at the Salt-
the gentlemen •whom he had consulted upon the subject house Dock (commenced on its own reconstruction and
would one and all say that he had, on every occasion, felt deepening, and necessarily continued to a considerable
the deepest interest for Mr. Sands, and the greatest an- extent by the present operations) have naturally given
xiety that nothing more should be said or done than was some annoyance to parties carrying on business in that
absolutely required. (Hear, hear.) He had first heard quarter.
of the charge on the 6th instant; and suppose that there The works are approached, at the north end, from the
had been a :Finance Committee then in existence, and quay between the Salthouse and the Canning Docks, by
that he had summoned them together to hear the charge, a handsome swing bridge (already completed) across the
the matter would have been made public. But by con-
fiding in a few, the matter remained a secret until the inlike those hitherto constructed at our docks, is of dou-
meeting of the Council; so that in this instance he had '
ble width, having two lines of roadway, with a wide foot-
done Mr. Sands a kindness, for which he was deserving path oo each side. This will afford much greater accom-
the thanks rather than the reprobation of any member of modation (the want of which has elsewhere been much the Council. (Hear, hear.)
The council divided, when there appeared :-
felt), as carts or carriages, going or returning, will be
For Mr. Gladstone ..
For Mr. Cooke. . .
The
creased width of the bridge necessarily requires it to be
following members voted in the division :-
of greater length, from the segmental termination of each
For Mr. Crooke.-Messrs. D. Hodgson, Isaac Holmes,
of its
two parts forming portions of a larger circle. It is
J. C. Thompson, J. A. Tinne, J. Sothern, W. Birkett,
C. Boutflower, similar in principle to the other bridges, on the castings
wer, C. Bushell, R. Gladstone, J. Kilshaw, R. below (which form a handsome perforated arch); and it
Rigby, J. B. Lloyd, J. Parker, J. Plunmton, S. L.
Trotman, R. Harbord. Aldermen-R. Houghton, J. has this obvious advantage, that its upper surface, in place
Lawrence, J. Bramley-Moore, T. Chilton-20. of rising in a segment in the middle, is on a dead level
with the adjoining ground. The winches.by which it is
For Mr. Gladstone.-Messrs. F. Shand, W. Thornhill,
T. Chalmers, T. Blackburne, W. Preston, J. Edwards, H. turned also form four rather ornamental posts at the cor-
ners (not on the quay), so that the men turning it are
Holmes, J. Aikin, H. Hornby, H. Lawrence, J. Hornby.
swung round along ' it, without being at all in the
G. H. Lawrence, J. S. Leigh. Aldermen-T. B. Ear- .
The gearing i and effective, and the speed,
clay, T. Bulley, R. Griffith, Sir T. Brancker, J. H. waY •
Turner, W: P. Freme, E. Molyneux, J. Moon, E. in moving round a ice a combination of iron and
Evans-23. wood, considerably in sed. It is, including the foot-
Mr. BIRRETT proposed Mr. Crooke. ways, 25 feet wide, and (measuring it by pacing) about
Mr. H. LAWRENCE seconded it.-Agreed to. 106 feet in length, from the extreme extension of each
horizontal segment of the woodwork. The two carriage-
Mr. BUSHELL proposed Mr. Bramley-Moore.
Mr. HODGSON seconded it. ways are divided by large rounded castings of iron, form-
Mr. GRIFFITH proposed, as an amendment Mr. Hu
ing a ridge which, when bridge is closed, no wheel can pass
Hornby. , gh upon or over, so that contact will be avoided. The foot-
Mr. BULLEY seconded it. paths, which are also wider than usual, are planked with
a hard and durable yellow West India wood, usually
The Council divided, when there appeared:-
For Mr. Bramley-Moore 2B called " green heart," and will finally be covered with
For Mr. Hornby lB asphaltum, or a similar composition.
The following members voted in the division :-
Passing a short distance westward from the bridge, the
visitor finds, immediately to the right, and on the north
For Mr. Bramley-Moore.-Messrs. Hodgson,Shand,l. of the new dock, the new HALF-TIDE BASIN, which will
Holmes, J. C. Thompson, J. Edwards, J. North, Henry be common to the three contiguous docks-the Albert,
Holmes. H. Hornby, J. A. Tinne, J. Sothern, T. Boyden, the Canning, and the Salthouse. It is of an irregular
G. G. Hornby, W. Birkett, H. Lawrence, C. Boutflower`, elongated squarish form, widest at the western end, with
C. Bushell, J. Kilshaw, R. Rigby, J. B. Lloyd, J. Par- two entrances from the river, each fitted with gates, and
ker, J. Plumpton, J. S. Leigh, S. L. Trotman, R. Har- divided by an oblong island constructed of hue blocks of
__ ee.euu aver. bord, R. Houghton, R. S. Crook, E. Molyneux, and T. granite, and rounded at each end, so as to form a sort of
Chilton.-28.
Mr. H. HORNBY called upon the Town-Clerk to For Mr. Hornby.-Messrs. W. Thornhill, T. Chalmer, oval. A little above the island, and on the south side, is a
passage (with another fine bridge in course of construction
•.........G1 Ile
state whether, as had been asserted by several gentle- T. Blackburn, W. Preston, J. Aikin, J. Holmes, R.
"en.. At all events, he must be pre-
ys anxious to con- pared toshow that the definition between those packages men, the corporation had not any title to the town Gladstone, J. Hornby, G. H. Lawrence, T. B. Barclay, across it) into the Albert Dock ; and at its eastern extre-
wmiiiti ye
h has therea is
similara ot her
communication entrance
y th aCann passageing
hDock,fo re
dues. His own belief was, that their title was as good T. Bulley, R. Griffith, Sir T. Brancker, J. H. Turner, eery often or of a case and a box, a bale, and a truss, was such as
eneldhave left no possible doubt on the minds of Sands as that of any gentleman to his property.
olicate it
Mr. NORTH believed the title to the town dues was W. P. Freme, J. Bramley-Moore, J. Moon, and E.
I was r - - -.owe they should pursue in the enter-noticed, spanned by the double-roaded bridge. This basin
as firm as the rock on which the town stood. Evans.-18. is capacious, (covering an area of 112,000 yards,) and will
g for -- ~,,t so prepared to
'nee TawN-CLERIC said there was not the slightest
Mr. H. LAWRENCE moved Mr. Hugh Hornby. accommodate a considerable number of ships, as in a wet
- - - . Mr. HENRYNY HOLMES seconded it. dock. By means of the gates below, they may also pro-
"'- intent in- Mr. ISAAC HOLMES proposed, as an amendment, Mr. teed to sea at any time when they have sufficient water
Bushell. outside. The bottom level is nine feet deeper than the
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The Council divided, when there appeared :--
For Mr. Bushell .
t such a charg,, For Mr. Hornby
....
to vindicate my The following nembers voted in the division :- as available, on the north side. The other walls are en-
4te For Mr. Bushell.-Messrs. D. Hodgson, F. Shand, I. tirely new, and were not only piled, but are being sheathed
':tie Holmes, J. C. Thompson, J. Edwards, H. Hornby, J. with strong planks of beech timber, driven by piling ma-
IL A. Tinne, J. Sothern, T. Royden, G. G. Hornby, W. chines into the ground near their bases, to prevent the
t . Birkett, C. Boutflower, J. Kilshaw, R. Rigby, J. B. possibility of the water getting under the foundations.
he Lloyd, J. Parker, G. H. Lawrence, J. Plumpton, J. S. These planks are driven close and grooved into each other
-ea Leigh, S. L. Trotman, R. Harbord, R. Houghton, Sir in the manner sometimes adopted in making coffer dams,
;u, T.Brancker, R. S. Crook, J. Bramley-Moore, E. Evans. so that they form a protecting wall of wood, under the
he and T. Chiiton.-27. clay, &c., at the bottom of the basin, the durability of
For Mr. Hornby.-Messrs. Thornhill, Chalmers, T. which (being always under water) will probably be co-
es
Blackburn, W. Preston, Henry Holmes, J. Aikin, J. equal with the world itself, as we have no instance on
eu
Holmes, H. Lawrence, C. Bushell, R. Gladstone, J. record of timber decaying in such a position.
're.
Hornby, T. B. Barclay, T. Bulley, R. Griffith, J. H. The area in which the works are going on, including
to
Turner, W. P. Freme, E. Molyneux, and J. Moon.-18 quays and warehouses, consists of about 13 acres. The
'he The nine members having been here elected, the com-
mittee stands constituted as follows :-Messrs. Brancker, ALBERT DOCK itself ..vill. be. about seven acres in extent,
and the excavation within it has greatly advanced since
ee
Shand, Aikin,Tinne, Lloyd, Gladstone, Crooke, Bramleye
e our last notice, though there is still a great deal to be
Moore, and Bushell. done in this department, particularly at the west side,
er,
The Council adjourned at a quarter after two o'clock, where some parts of the ground near the old sea-wall are
en
' e
yet unbroken. A great number of men are busily engaged
en upon it ; and it is expected to be finished about eight
"o months hence. The walling is completed on the east side;
'it, a large portion at the south end, and a considerable part
at the north-the whole of the foundations being so far
-14
n successfully laid. The piling for the west wall has recently
i been commenced, and considerable advancement has been
plicaten r de at its northern extremity. This wall will be a little
The TOWN-CLERK replied in the negative. Aside, or westward of the old line of wall, part of which,
Mr. BUSHELL here withdrew the original motion, and in a dilapidated state, yet remains, including the corner of
the amendment was unanimously adopted, what was formerly known as Skipton's wharf, and in
Mr. BUSHELL then moved that the special committee which is cut Roman numeral figures to indicate the
in mat such a c.
consist of 15 members.
STEALING ACQW.-OnFriday week,at the Police-court, height of the tide up to XXIV at the top. In making the
we my assert.
Mr. AIKIN moved as an amendment, that it consist William Turner, a young man of decent appearance, was excavations, in what may be termed the original bed or
-.articular, fo, of nine.charged before Mr. Rushton, with having stolen a cow, bank of the river, a noble pair of deer's antlers, and also
belonging tout r. Joseph Dodson, cattle dealer, of Kirk- a huge pair of bull's horns, were found by the workmen.
-spaper of -t. MR. HENRY LAWRENCE seconded the amendment. dale. It aared, from Mr. Dodson's statement, that The whole length of the new sea-wall is about 1,000
The Council divided, when 'there appeared :-
thecow,which belonged to him, had strayed from a field feet. About half of this may be said to be done, or in
Unite 1 own-dues- depart ment-the management, the arrange-
For a committee of 9-26
carried. The follow-
q. 1 ment, the looking into, and the husbanding of the town- in Derby-road, behind the Zoological Gardens, and that foundation, and the piling southwardgoes on with activity'
"ir Tho.
,f 1..., 1 dues-had
. been the dutv.of the Finance Committee, he TFhoreaamcoemadmmiettreite
wasof 15-22 in
the prisoner had afterwards stolen the animal. Another when the tide permits. This wall has taken away a great
--.-I te.
:- witness
Hodgson, deposed to the hide of the animal haying been tra- part of, or in otherlwords, is extended upon, the sands
might fairly argue that tbe Finance Committee were in-•
beerasmymotieldteienafthend.tiscioanan:
,rated, e
• ced to a tan yard, and it was sworn to as the one belong- known as Blackaller's Bank, it has already had the
competent to take any part in the present ,committee,
"hat an in
ngFomrema
because they themselves were on their trial. (Hear, hear,
ing to the cow stolen from Mr, Dodson, it was then effect of reducing Pluckington Bank, further south. The
-t. I muss Isaac Holmes, J. Edwards, J. North, J. A. Tinne, J. '
from Mr. Isaac Holmes.) If the Finance Committee- Isaac
on reference to the plan that the field was in piles are driven so as to form, when home, diagonal rows
';fiable c,..
Kilshaw, R. Rigby, J. B. Lloyd, J. Parker, J. Plump-
Sothern T. Royden, C. Boutflower, C. Bushell, J.discovered.township, and Mr. Rushton told the parties they along the foundation line, and are of great size and he was now going on the evidence of the chairman of that
committee, and confirmed as that was by the Town-clerk-must bring the matter before the magistrates for the ness, being, in fact, large beech trees, with merely the
4it was i,ton, T. T. Glazebrook, A. Lace, S. L. roth:tan, R. Evertor
' thick-
if it was the duty of the Finance Committee to.attend to
Harbord. Aldermen.-R. S. Crook, J. Bramley-Moore, co_unty. branches smoothed off, and average 10 to 12 feet long.
this department, then it would be for them to prove-first,
E. Molyneux, T. Chilton-22.
said
PAVING S C
AND SEWERAGE ommissloNEßs.--OnThurs- When down, the tops are sawn flush off, an excavation is
, that they had not exacted from the merchants of Liver-
For a Committee of 9.-Councillors-F. Shand, W. day, a meeting of the inhabitants assessed to the relief of then made round them, about two feet deep, which is
' pool more than the law had given them in the matter of
town-dues. Thornhill, TAChalmers, T. BlackburnlW. Preston, J. C. the poor in this town, was held in the Sessions-house filled up with rough grout-work and large Yorkshire flags,
Mr. LACE rose to order. .He submitted that the ques-
Thompson, Henry Holmes, J. Aikin, H. Hornby, Chapel-street, for the purpose of- filling up the vacancies (of nine inches thick,) being placedon this bed, the whole
lion of title was being opened, and that such a question
J. Holmes, G. G. Hornby, W. Birkett, H. Lawrence, in the Board of Commissioners, for the better paving and is surmounted by the sea-wall. We cannot say much for
ought not to be discussed in the way that Mr. :Bushell
R. Gladstone, G. H. Lawrence, J. S. Leigh, A. Smith, sewerage of the town. There were only about twenty- the "appearance" at a distance of the new system of
was discussing it. The object of Mr. Bushell was to have Jun. Aldermen-T. B. Barclay, T. Bulley, R. Griffith, five persons present, and those were chiefly members of mural architecture as displayed in this sea-wall; for the
a full and fair investigation, but surely it would not tend J. Lawrence, Sir T. Brancker, J. H. Turner, W. p. 'the Board. Mr. Thomas Kaye was called upon to pre- larger pieces stuck in, apparently promiscuously, amongst
Freme, J. Moon, E. Evans-26. side.-Mr. E. G.Deane having read the notice of meeting, the smaller, which are more mixed with the mortar, pre-
to such an investigation if they were to go into questions
of title. He called upon the Town-clerk to say whether
Mr. BUSHELL asked whether Messrs. North and Lace stated that there were ten vacancies to fill up, five elected sent a sort of patchwork that rather offends the eye.
the discussion was judicious'? would consent to act as members of the Committee? from the Council, and five from the rate-payers. On the Strength, not beauty, however, has alone been the object.
Mr. BUSHELL said he was not oin topursue it.
Mr. NORTH said his determination was not to serve. motion of Mr. James Aspinall, seconded by Mr. James The new dock will be surrounded by fire-proof WARE-
Mr.g GRIFFITH said that 'Mr. Bugshelpl' s course was
" I think," said he, " I ought not, and I wont." (Great Lawrence, Messrs. D. Hodgson, John Nelson Wood, and HOUSES, of the most approved construction. The walls
simple : it was merely to appoint a committee. laughter.) John Holmes, were re-elected. Mr. J. A Tinne was ap- of these-nearly all already above ground-are of fine
the Committee
Mr. LACE also replied in the negative. pointed in the place of Mr. John Shaw Leigh, disqualified brick-work, of unusual thickness, and all cemented with
Mr. BLACKBURN asked whether Mr. Bushell would
Mr. BusHELL then. read out a list of in consequence of not having attended for six months, the Halkin lime. We penetrated some of the lower
allow him to suggest if the best course. would not be to
and Mr. Robertson Gladstone to fill up the vacancy vaults or cellars, by the aid of torch light, in company
he wished to have appointed, as:followse-Messrs. Hodg-
appoint a committee, without going into any discussion
son, Shand, 'Tinne, Lloyd, Aikin, Crooke, Brainley- caused by his own resignation during the period he was with Mr. Miller, the intelligent superintendent of the
at present ? It might be premature, with an imperfect
ki, knowledge of facts, to discuss.; and, as there would not Moore, Evans, and Blackburn. Mayon On the motion of Mr. James Lawrence, the works, and were quite lost in amazement. They are of
Messrs. Evans, Blackburn, and Atkin wished to be following, gentlemen were appointed from the rate-payers: great extent, and built in successions of arches, or grond,
e
11tr°1.4 be any difference of o p inion aboutthe committee, the bet-
ter plan would be to appoint them, and refer the case f©r excused from serving. -Mr. lames Proctor, in the place of Mr. George Hol- both ways, formed dimpled compartments in the roof, sup-
-1; .11,_ Dr A MEMBER OF THE nocrocometorreo. -
e 'nose •
eon •of a said the first suleject on the paper was the their consideration. (Hear.) Mr. Anew said he had drawn up his list of the den, Mr. John Whitby, in the place of Mr. Edward ported interiorly by stron iron pillars, in rows, running
hAtVeio.raember of the Council to be a member of Mr. Sosneee yielded to the opinion of the Council In Committe as follows :-Messrs. Crooke, Lloyd, Bushell, Gibbon, and Messrs. Wm. Guyton, J. Kilshaw, and longitudinally with the building, and between which are
4N4eiee-we far the affairs of .the estate of the trustees the matter. He could assure the members that it was Moore, Gladstone, BranckerS,G. H. Lawrence, H. Horn- John Fletcher, who retired by rotation, were re-elected. strong beams of cast-iron, each, with an arched ridge on
eet% eati7ol docks upon the vacancy caused by Mr. by, and Evans.
not his wish to limit the corporate revenue, but that, on
Mr 4 8' a member of the Council, having resigned
'‘e • e"r a the contrary, it was his wish to increase that revenue if Mr. BUSHELL •moved Mr. Hodgson a member.
Mr. Isaac HOLMES seconded it. accounts for the past year. For the information of our inverted, the upright part being the ridge, but the angles
readers we give the following abstract of the accounts :- (in such illustration) being rounded and strengthened in
a, e s 'uenaber of the committee. he could. Hewes showing, at the time of the interrup-
tion, that-he would exulude the Finance Committee, be- Mr. GRIFFITH moved, as an amendment, !Sir Thos. The paving and flagging rate collected during the year, the casting by additional metal. The iron pillars are
elit °tr. SIT, jun., begged to propose Mr. Simon e.erotato M the office. Brancker. ending 30th September, for 1841 and 1842, at Bd. in the based and well secured, each on the top of a large circular
cause, as they had tne management ,of this part of the
revenue, it would not be proper that they should be onpound, amounted to £20,846 Bs. 6d. ; amount received Yorkshire flag, which rests an a columnar base, under
fe'etise,'"nee. seconded the nomination, which was
sc), sdo seconded
the Special Committee. 'With regard to four members of Mr. BLACKBURN seconded• it.
The Council divided, when there appeared- from the Corporation and other parties in lieu of paving ground, of strong brick-work supported on piles. Similar
Illi 'en that committee, he would exclude them upon this ground : For Sir Thomas Brancker 25 certain streets, £6843 3s. sd. ; sewerage rate for 1842 at iron pillars will be joined on the top of those below, one
, q,. Op ,
0,-441, -lIAIRMAN OF THE :DOCK COMMITTEE. when Mr. Currie brought his charge, the Town-clerk, it For Mr. Hodgson - 19 2d. in the pound, £4788 9s. 6d. ; arrears and other over the other perpendicularly for each story-the whole
e,tle tfiaa °ea. said the second subject on the paper was would appear, laid the indictment. 'The Mayor slim- The following members voted in the divisions- amounts received on account of sewerage, £1458 18s. being vaulted from top to bottom of the buildings, so that
,tssktie ?' one of the thirteen councillors members moned the grand jury, of which he became the chairman. For Mr. Hodgson.-- Messrs. Shand, Isaac Holmes 10d. ; balance in treasurer's hands es per last account, they will be allstricely fire-proof. Such is the strengebee, f
£3Ol 14s. 9d. ; making the total receipts, £34,238 ss. Od. the mortar and brick arches, that we are told the iron
ff' 4Po°''lnsittee., to be the chairman of that corn. Upon the statement of the late chief-magistrate, and Thompson, J. Edwards, .1 - A. Tinne, J. Sothern, tr.
Ui • 11
tkoe the resignation of Mr. Sands. upon the fact itself, he thought, of thecharge being now Boyden, G. G. Hornby, C. Boutflower, C. Bushell, J. The expenditure of the Board was as follows :-Due to beams or ribs might be removed after all is set, (were
Ot
tt4lllllllev ‘fril said he bad much pleasure in proposing before the Council, it was shown, that the grand jury, Kilshaw, R. Rigby, J. 13, Lloyd, J. Parker, J. Plumpeon, the bank, £429'4 19s. 9d. ; paving, flagging, &c., £17,541 that thought worth while,) and the building would still
13s. 9d. ; watering the streets, £l;'97 6s. 4d. ; salaries,
. stand and bear any reasonable •ht Granite stair-
r, dark stlvbetiegrr '
VIZ te',,;"loore to the office of chairman, believing for so he must -term it, found a prima facie case against R. Harbord. Aldermen-R. S. Crook, J. Bramley.
£1477 12s. 3d. - sewerage, £8414 7s. sd. ; expenses in cases lead down to these aneous vaults, and
P -91 •"‘' gentleman's knowledge of the docks, and Sands and Co., and so brought it to the Council. If they Moore, T. Chilton-19.
tli' C bat
T. the Water Bill, £1921 2s. 9d. ; leaving in the those finished are at present covered with clay to keep
4e(l floes andel:wee, he was suitable for the situation, did not think there was a prima facie case, they would For Sir T.lBrancker-Messrs- Thornhill, Chalmee,
' 'le .'" seconded the nomination, which was
? 'l3 41 e have ignored the bill, quashed the indictment, and the Blackburn, W. Preston, Henry Holmes, J. Aikin, H. bank, obtaining
"3 Bs. 4d. • and in the hands of the treasurer, out the anticipated frost of the present winter, and which
437 i
' will in the • The
£lB 14s. sd. be removed
to ItA on, Council would not have heard a word on the-subject. Hornby, J. Holmes, W. BirllEtt, H. Lawrence, R. Glad-
stacks of warehouses have all the lower vaults already
tone .3 Hornby, G. H. Lawrence, J. S. Leigh, S. DOCK COMMITTEE.-THURSDAY.-Present, Messrs.
',.0, 414 y tlz:t YjMopRE hoped the council would allow Mr. HODGSON
.thought the advice of Mr. Blackburn s , .
T Ald T. B Bar lay, R. L.HoughtonWe Horsfall. ( turned, and the foundation pillars of nearly all the rest
Thet
arn eh erange
g made
ht . g ooTon dht
eht to
wtwhh
west
sl
te tonne
sadr
area
awill. r !occ ec
be
epe i
magnificent,ne td obfy the i
the warehouses
iron
,In ,
extendinga cr oe lhuomu
sness.
'it le tli (I that i
shegly appreciated the honourverydgood ateir, if they could come to a proper underd-
Bra-'
71 a ek
. G riefa in the chair,) Barclay, Holt, Holmes, Middle-
l'4tessiletYs fa itulry .baealAi sfaear The: tgee
anadreaalvtutre
rteos
tdios
f.
as standings n
thatr
rligs.tage; wort
ii3nosatta n
entering
mioattiao motion
the
ocuaisde befaard o pte J. Lawr.encee J. H. Turner, W. P. ton, Smith, Molyneux, Nicol, Bulley, Evans, Boyden,
there Freme,eY E. Molyneux, J. Moon, E. Evans-25. Tobin, Moore, Sandbach, Moon, Ripley, Chilton, and
the full length of the dock,and the whole will be six stories
Aikin.-The secretary reported that the contract with the
'1 t ret4 at large. (Hear, hear.) would be a full opportunity for discussion afterwards- Mr. BUSHELL moved Mr. Shand
There is a passage for vessels hetween the new dock and
New Gas Company for lighting seventy-five of the dock ,
kkttsi4teoit4RnGAlNST
.SANHS. TUR.NER, AscH co. and if any of the Finance Committee were proposed as Mr.' G. H. LAWRENCE seconded it-agreed to.will be 136,000 square yards.
the Salthouse Dock, and the swing-bridge is completed.
re icier_ said, that if the council would then ap- members elf the special committee, and Mr. Bushell stated Mr. BuSHELL moved Mr. Aikin.
IN' ll!4an to take his place, he should•be happy his objections to them at the time, the council would get Mr. H. LAWRENCE seconded it.-agreed to. expired.ixa6mppesrhlaadmp per a
n n In reply
a s ptaoi
da question, t
h e
N ehwe addedai p that
a y ,
and only £4 to the Old Company. Some conversation
14 'Of tit the remainder of the business had been on much better.
aq l', • Mr. BUSHELL moved Mr, Tinne. then arose as to the utility of the bude light and naptha A number of stationary steam engines on the ground are
tilte, ,k.k„. Mr. BUSHELL said, it could not have escaped the acute Mr. HODGSON seconded it.-Agreed to. lamps. Mr. Moore said the latter were used in London, employed in piling, pumping, mortar-grinding, &c., and
and transport of materials, running in every
e okne ett• said, it rested with the Mayor to appoint observation of Mr. Hodgson, that in moving for the scut- Mr. BUSHELL moved Mr. Lloyd. there are numerous temporary railways for the excavations
and were much cheaper than gas. It was ultimately re-
Vill.e.e4 ti, chair. cial committee he was taking on himself a great response- Mr. Moue-seconded it.-Agreed to.
direction, and
'e fee'tte ealled on Sir Thomas Brancker. bility, and that if he excluded certain influential members 1I NI Navin, been understood to decline there without giving good grounds for their exclusion, he should
It noitfr:ealls for Mr. Alderman Moon ; and M. be censurable. It was therefore necessary that he should
\l, Mr. BUSHELS. moved Mr. Crooke.
Mr. r ' G erteßomsleToezn moved,
Mr. Fas an amendment.. Mr. Gladstone
regretted that anything should have' solved that inquiries should be made as to the expense of
these lights, and that application should also be made to crossing here and there bridges of balks. A moveable
both gas companies, in order to ascertain for. what
. sum coffer-dam, of iron, is used for the outward wall-work,
they would supp y the gas if that mode of lighting was and the whole of the apparatus is of the best description,
e'i • ' accordingly taken the chair, the Mayor justify himself.
respecting
gthevin
-
again adopted.-Permission was given to the Dock Sur- suggested by the improvements of civil engineering. The
: 'C'ett• .
Mr. BLACERoRN said that if the council should adopt been said of an unpleasant nature res
Al 4 14' lthe ' • ' • . ful position Mr. Sands was placed in at the period when veyor to et the King's Dock dry, after the usual notices, water is drawn from the coffer-dam by a syphon pipe, and
Nli_ocee,
.fished to say a few words, before the proposed plan, then the council would justify Mr.
Nq 344 tsl,:oett to the next subject on the paper, re- Bushell. It would be hardly possible for the latter to he first received Mr. Corrie 's communication ; and he
regretted still more that those remarks should have pro- and
in order that the works of the gates might be examined, afterwards discharged by chain pumps. A new engine is
also in course of erection at the south-west corner, for the
N tli:ht t amour Which had got into circulation, and enter upon a subject of this nature without saying some- ceeded from a quarter from which, he must confess, he the necessary repairs made.-It was agreed that the .
I
t As° he centradicted. He had heard it whir- 'thing offensive, and offensiveness ought to be avoided, at prepared to expect them. He thought the rent of £670 per annum should be charged for the use, works in that quarter, and, we earn, that the same par-
by the officers of the crown, of the three southernmost ties have been engaged to form a new line of continuous
\Nleiree'r• Lace ad h• If hd • t* ted th
1 lee el ner , n imse . a :oyes iga e . The CHAIRMAN thought that perhaps Mr. Bushell had was not ' ' • •
transit sheds.-A new life boat of the large size, for the Fea. wall along the front of the Duke's Dock, southward,
dh. lf f d h 't uld b 11 t o
to egt.i...,: 'ainds, and that it was in consequence el e . imee so ar, an tatl wo eweno t members of the council would have no difficult in be-
lieving that when he received that communication from
' keailv4'4,Llon. lacing unfavourable (no, no) they bring objections against any member who was not likely Mr. Corrie no mayor was ever placed in a more trying Liverpool station, was ordered to be built.-Ten shillings up to the corner of the King's Dock Pier, at the Tobacco
each were ordered to be given to such of the crew of the Warehouse. +
k kleeetio -nr. *Sands upon the subject, and that he to be appointed.
position. (Hear.) He eonld assure them sincerely
effee' abeented himself from the council. This Mr. BUSHELL said they were becoming so exceedingiy that he never entertained, throughout the transaction, any hloylane life-boat as rescued the hands of the schooner The ground gainedefrorre the old sea:wall to the present
one, is about 230 feet in width off the river. Immediately
''fl'if:'‘," fo4litare"e• (Hear, bear.) Their advice to Mr. refined and delicate, that he really knew not what to think.
animus towards Mr. Sands of an unfriendly nature. His f epute, onthe morning of the 14th of October.-A letter
from the Birkenheadand Chesterßailway Company, so-
in,the g warehouses, a
westward of the west ran e of there will be
t:fnaeati the'ed solely and absolutely on the question (A laugh.) Was he, then, to take the responsibility of the only desire was, to discharge his duty fearlessly and lode_ belting ermission to Place a hut on the quay of George's cart road, walled whole length of the new dock, and
liqiee Treci uleat decorous and dignified position he course he was pursuing, or was he not?
pendently, and to take care that a charge of delay, attri- P. P
0, eSD, Jegard to the election of mayor, and was Mr. H. HORNBY thought Mr. Bushell right, inesmuch b bl - h in e d ree to an officer of the corpo-
uta e per aps some eg pier, was referred to Mn. Whitty..-The notice of the in_ beyond it a marine parade along its whole extent.
tention of the Birkenhead Commissioners to apply to par- As a proof of the excellence of the mortar, we may state
ttgl,vi4TlZ`l,,ve of guilt or innocence on the part of as that gentleman had to justify himself to the Council ration, should not be laid at his door; and he believed that the outer stank temporarily built with it, in a sweep
liament for permission to build docks at Wallasey Pool
;11. kit , the entire
'ed over and over again, in giving and to the town also. (Hear.) no member could say that he had not acted discreetly of a large circle, to keep the tide out of the basin, is now
' 1 ‘lte ir
v 1,,,,,, tiler abstinence from the justice of the Mr. BusinTee said that, after the kind advice which consulting with the gentlemen with whom he had advised.
by was ordered to lie on the table till next week.-A letter
from Mr. Sands, resigning his situation as member and being removed in large fragments of mingled stone and
li➢' ap't full- (Hear.)
10t, kl it Y Confirmed what Mr. North had ust had been given him, he must really pursue his own course His first wish was, to consult Sir Thos.Btancker and chairman of the committee, was read.-The secretary read brick, so cemented en masse, that each portion is found
O't 1,440,,WaS material for him to do so, for without after all ; and he could assure. the Council that he had not Mr. Hugh Hornby only, than whom .he considered the notice of the intention to apply to parliament for pow- available as materials for the new wall-work.
come there without having first considered that course at- there were no two gentlemen in the council better calcu-
telohleri the last day 'n favour of Mr. Sands would era to erect new docks, and then informed the committee
tentirely. He was, then, proceeding to state, when in- lated to afford him valuable assistance. (Hear, hear.) that the plans of the new docks were on the table,-Mr,
liollt.'m rho creditable. If in
had gone into the investi- terrupeed, that he had an objection to four members of lie reamed those two gentlemen to the Tewn-cler ,_w Ripley expressed his surprise that the notices should have
4, if saii I:.lfght alr.Sands cur able it would have been
afterwards.prop erco u r s e Iwt awsatsoamr
ordered
teesd tea 1 atnhse andpla H
iveags s h
chairman
aimaf
the Fireance C.ommittee in particular. He thought the considered that, irrespectively of his being one of the
efll44tl Z Part to vote forPhim' Mr North andbeen give before the plans wer made. thouht the
late
chief magistrate did not exercise that sound discre- candidates spoken of for the mayoralty, he ought. to
theaalshould
notn
ei caeas
Aeset aeeestained from the pin mitigation, and had
Canal, stating
tom. which V.Prhalra.. -- e
_ Hall Lawrence, he being
the table for two or three days, in order to allow the co
-au of ihe Finance Committee. Hay-
, invariably found the Town-clerk's advice on.- all rn-
eto inspect them -A letter was read from the
occasions to be most sound and excellent, he did send for
the Committee 'of the Leeds and Liverpool
Mr. Lawrence, and requested him to join the other two
that they entertained favourably the sag-
ff tO the junction ofthedocks with the canal.

ll:TeBterdaY, a special meeting of the council was held at
!lot awn-hall, for the purpose of taking into constd era -
tio,, and determining upon three separate matters men-
"l,
ated at length in the summonses. The Mayor took the
ttlair
04 eleven o'clock, at which time there were twenty-
tkrabers in their respective places.

TKE
LATE DISC tiSSI.ON—SIR THOS. BRANCKER.
ttijr:ett:lTA I" 0 R said the council would have perceived,
Coto
litiamonses, that he had resied his situation
toratoi,,, member and also as the chairman of the Dock
N"ee, as he had intimated to the Town-Clerk a
,before; and he was proceeding to remark that
tl:he
i3utttY would be to fill up those vacancies, when
khsion RAALLtY-Moona rose and begged, with the per-
, or 0, f the council, before they proceeded to the busi-
Na the day, to occupy their attention for a few mo-
PAid r a point of privilege relating to himself. It
itle'ict: said, be recollected that, at the last meeting,
t d ntallY alluded, in the course of the discussion
~Rd er consideration, to an unfounded charge which
Nciltle time been made against the house of Sir Thos.
:4111 !r• In doing so, he meant not to cast any impu-
-446 ?I)1 that firm. On the contrary, his object was
!tatdy( show how any honourable house might be ex-
charge, however unfounded ; and, ,as be thought
;Itt}4
,00re strongly on the one under discussion, he
was justified in bringing it forward. (Hear.)
t:74 put Tso be recollected how unceremoniously he hr
,4etvo, 'own on that occasion, and called upon to re-
,tt thrat he had said. He knew that it was an unplea-
.l," to make statements without—
w`tttcl 'AnsxONE rose to order. If circumstances con-
,tra with the discharge of his duty as chief magistrate
Ritht`? he taken into consideration, be thought there
1° have been some notice given of such a discussion.
taL k
ue e,,,,A.lrcut said he understood Mr. Bramley-Moore
Wnng into some explanation.
ila,2,tvostoNE complained of the use of the :word
TcrrnoniousY. "
)01A
r.,11 l'olt called on Mr. Bramley-Moore to proceed.
tmwtey-Moonz said, it would be in the recol-
Kut the council that he had been put down on that
re t, Land not allowed to proceed. Now, if members
b haveutPut down in such a manner because they might
'4llh. evidence immediately before them to bear out
T.9' ,had been advancing, it might lead to
h 411,, aRANCKEH.—May I ask whether Mr. Moore
tltire'acharge to 'make against me? because, if he has
eddy 'mot see what this has to do with the business of
t•
51,4 RAMLET-MOORE.—It has this to do with it, Sir
'e
et hi.kYon.—lf I understand his object, he is trying
1111,„°wia conduct right with the council.
101tA:19CKEIL.—What he has to do with me I know
Zt 4
'''Yea•—•Will Mr. Moore state shortly what his
itikt.ttoally is?
"AMLEY-MOORE.
1141,1 possibly can.
ie
atge atoicicEn.—He is making charges against me
13!-Yon.—That I cannot allow.
});,ear) '''',Altie•r-Mooke.—l am not making any charge.
said, on the last day, that an unfounded charge
Chek;ll,, made on one occasion against Sir Thomas
rt ti,„: ;..and because I was not allowed to go into it at
th;,etraet%l think I ought to be permitted now to explain.
Otei eu the statement on this ground, because I did
,y.seelf justified or authorized to make usettoiltthhee
ter the
and
who bad furnished m
eg d who are acquainted with all thee wcircum-
4, ilk ma, therefore, I preferred to take all the ob-
()f the rnYself of retracting the statement, to the giving
Ottiser!attiFs of the parties. believe the council wil'
Iri 7 Justice to say, that lam alwa
teNelf
e .to facts; and, as I do not speak vo. S _
ttlLOtt tpliy, I trust I may be allowed to vindicate my-
"' Rat; PrFsent occasion. (Hear, hear.). I was called
ti,ipDort whether I had any proof to bring forward in
etoati'mY assertion. I was 'not in a position at the
It4t
Date
tice Proof; but now I come forward to re-assert
iltiate,,en stated—that a charge was made. I never
thitifect." that Sir Thomas 'Brancker's character was at
eht t,ll, bY it, because it was unfounded ; but I think I
o,lltte-ri,ne permitted to state, that I am prepared with
oNle, trY evidence to prove the' was
ehaktlear, hear.) All I require is,
lt,tildrasvr,eter iu makince the statement and having to
l!tiati,. It; and this I am now 'prepared to do by sub-
e Mg
the stoma. ,t to extent.

—Certainly I shall, and as

rent to .c•fallest,
think you have now obtained your

"Jtet
tll4'.
t'irl3b
rt In'tle-MooE.—l am not qu,
;hog• g •
o rr,O•4ANoRER.—I think the Council
ovidu_Te to do than to mind what a bus,
tPiness't otit,of doors, who meddles with of
qrte NTore than his own, and.who is the
cte, i• Moore brings forward, may say about
ik char-, hY Mr. Moore should have brought forward
4aa•case which was total from it,l
),'mina „uY at a loss to conceive. When he got distinct
into the di-
% th",the last Council, I rose to ask what it had to do
us•
mess before the Council.
aut`,..kltLEY-IVloon.E.—Well and I con:i togettny-
-0 4)e, r that dilemma now.; and if the Council will listen
MMyshall get out of it too. (Hear.) I am not going
44Ythi
Itn • h. pg on the tittle-tattle of any person.
"usne ..IVELENCE.—If Mr. Moore did anything
bj at taht‘iie last Council, the matter -.llp. passed over,
forte, Present discusesion is quite irllllevant. I sub-
irLf
ft,,11;,,,tif.,..a5?d,a..0f the Council, that

...vulva it, he would not
nave mentioned Mr. Corrie's name at all. Mr. Corrie's
conduct would be for the investigation .of the committee.
It would be their duty to determine whether he had acted
on his own responsibility, and, if so, why be did not act
sooner? It would be for him to ea plain the circumstances
which led to the charge at this particular time ; and, there-
fore, he (Mr. B.) would take his leave of Mr. Corrie for
once. The second head of the motion, as to the mode in
which the Town-dues were collected, it would be for Mr.
Corrie to explain, or it would be for the Finance Commit-
tee to explain what was the tariff connected with the
Town-dues. With respect to the management of those
dues, it would be for the committee to inquire how those
dues had been collected, and how the whole business con-
nected with that department had been conducted. Hav-
ing thus briefly stated the objects of the committee, he
should next show how he thought the committee should
be composed. And, first, he would state, on what he
considered good grounds, the reasons why he would ex-
clude from that committee every member of the Finance
Committee. He would exclude .four of the members of
the Finance Committee on double grounds, and, on
treble grounds, he would exclude two of its members

lear about

author o° the

FANCY BREAD.—There is no season of the year at
which fancy and currant bread is in greater request than
at that which approximates to Christmas. Mr. Gibbons,
whose advertisement will be fonnd in another column,
who is direct from the " Land o' Cakes," has now a
splendid establishment in London-road, at which all the
rarities in this line are produced in the greatest perfec-
tion. Those who have savour for delicacies would do well
to patronise him.

,ower to r

'4,leti,'eg.to ask the Town clerk w
ipitn'itbefore us
ttt."'iYoß

With regard to the exclusion of the Finance Committee, it
would be remembered that Mr. George Hall Lawrence,
stuck 'up or stood up for a nrivilerre

I thick Mr

t the last meetine

title% $44
10t e, iiro,I4LEY-MOORE. -
iDtatioit 111)Ott am now prepared to prove my.ass.ertior
intLhe evidence of any person in particuta-
lrn ''as it that it was in every new
Ifjar 1;11.4
to--,euxG4 ii--onSNiraTyhoniatsi,liylr4er.rtiv,
°hiehne inti)el,,ai9 what he stated, so far h
011 ti • eouid"Pan of saying that any chat
Chet substantiated ; but I must appeal to the
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17 kr, Le.'aer the words " unjustifiable charge" fen
0
544. ore upon the last
said
4 e't -.Lrir-MOGRE.-1 said then that it was un-
rt* ti,
L'ilifs.tleh -=I--4 do not recollect it. You said
euarge had been brought, Gut whether you
INZt. "an unfounded charge is more than I can re-
e
inflr°ll.--The Town-Clerk says he recollects the
' 11,-.„,'anded."
tltlilit:eqr-el,""(iNT.—I think that, in every spirit of faire-
44tt. ',wore ought to give such an explanation as he
d'tt'aN
ay I movetbat we proceed to the business
ftlt:,"lt'alr-MoonE.—lf it be admitted that whati
upt eed.
or:orreet, I am done: if not, I must beg perm's-
kZ
BRlttlit•it is admitted.
11004-IEY-NloonE.lf I have vied;
Ntel
11;', A °R..—You are -perfectly vindicated
eahversation here dropped.

yielded on all occasions to that committee, and main-
tained that the whole question of the town-dues devolved
on the Finance Committee, and appealed to. the Town-
clerk, who confirmed that view; and therefore Mr. Aikin's
view of a special Town-dues Committee could not be
carried into effect on thats.occasion. If this were true that
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eatecl myself,

WATCH COMMITTEE.-At a meeting of the Watch
Committee, on Thursday last, Mr. Alderman James Law-
rence was re-appointed chairman, and Mr. Jas. Aspinall
vice-cl

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he made any selection from' the Finance Committee on so
grave a question as that against Messrs. Sands and Co.
Mr. GLADSTONE.—The Finance Committee was not

The following gentlemen have been gazetted as in the
roll of sheriffs, for the ensuing year for Cheshire :
George Wilbraham, of Delamere House, Esq. ; James
Walthall Hammond, of Wistaston, Esq.; Sir William
Massey Stanley, of Hooton Hall, Bert.

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