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ADJOURNED QUARTERLY ING OF THE gation he entertained for them the highest respect, and he Dlr. HENRY LAWRENCE rose to explain, in answer to
COUNCIL.
could not admit that they had acted discreditably to their a remark of Mr. Aikin's, that he gave no opinion at the
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judecaent in acquitting Mr. Sands of the charge. He con- last meeting, and voted against the adjournment.
eluded by expressing a hope that they would, by electing Mr. Eva:as remarked that, notwithstanding the opin.
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Mr. Sands, him with the same high and honours- on of the Mayor that he was precluded from addressing
This Council met, pursuant to adjo
day, and at eleven o'clock a very full meeting was aSSinn- ble character he had borne throughout. - ithe Council, having spoken previously, he considered
bled. On opening the proceedings, Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said there were other parties on himself now entitled to do so, a substantial motion hay-
The MAYOR rose to state that the first business of the their tri 11 to-day besides Mr. Sands. There was Mr. ing been made which he rose to second. He could not
council was to proceed to the election of a Mayor to sus- Corrie, a man of integrity and judgment ; and though he do this without animadverting upon the character of the
ceed himself in that office; and before sitting down he had Preferred the charge at a critical moment, he considered gentleman whom he seconded ; and as he was a conser.
to communicate to the council, that in consequence of that it was time to put a stop to the practice. He (Mr. vative his praise would not run to any lenath.
what had passed at the last meeting, he had himself lodged Lawrence) believed that Messrs. Sands were the only The TOWN-CLERK thought that the
in the hands of the Town• Clerk a formal resignation of . house that had systematically carried it on. (Cries of question and Mr. Evans ha%
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his office. " No, no.") He had never thought higher of Mr. Sands, not, with regard to propriety of proceedii
Mr. SANDS then rose, and was evidently labouring whom he highly respected, than when he declined to be to speak again.
under great emotion. He proceeded to state that at the nominated until the matter was fully investigated, as ad- A long and somewhat irregular conversation arose,
last meeting of the Council, of which the present was an vised by Mr. Lace and Mr. North, and he regretted that some members impugning the Town-clerk's law, and
adjournment, he felt himself impelled from the circum- determination had not been adhered to. He had a great others maintaining that any other course would lead to
stances which had occurred, to intimate his unwillingness respect for the gentlemen who had engaged in the rnercan- an endless debate. The question having been decided
at that time to be elected to the Mayoralty, and to with- tile investigation ; but he could not acknowledge this that Mr. Evans could not be heard further,
draw any claims which he might have had upon their decision. The case ought to have been investigated by Mr. SHAND expressed his opinion that no fraudulent
notice. From circumstances which had since occurred, the council. If they elected Mr. Sands Mayor they could intention on the part of Mr. Sands having been imputed,
lie now recalled that withdrawal, and if elected by them not afterwards put him upon his trial; neither could they the Council might fairly proceed to his election, and it
to the office of Mayor, would endeavour to fulfil the du- with propriety charge other town dues than he had been must be borne in mind that if, as it bad been said, the
ties of the office to the utmost sot his ability. paying. Thee had been told in the papers of Sunday election of Mr. Sands must be considered as a verdict of
Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE then rose, and in a few corn- meetings in the Town-hall on this subject, but he knew of acquittal, so his rejection must be regarded as one of
plimentary remarks respecting the high character of Mr. no such meetings. condemnation.
Sands, proposed that gentleman as Chief Magistrate for Sir T. BrtAscßEn. alluded to the alleged Sunday meet- Mr. TURNER said it was not his intention to speak at
the ensuing year. ing, and showed that there was no truth whatever in the all this morning; but as a particular friend of his was
Mr. Alderman CROOK said he had much pleasure in assertion. He was much pleased when Mr. Sands said now proposed, he could not refrain from seconding his
seconding the nomination of Mr. Sands. He was a gen. that he would not be nominated until the charge were nomination, and felt perfectly convinced that Mr. George
tleman of high standing as a merchant in this town. The investigated. It could not be wiped away but by the Hall Lawrence would well and faithfully discharge the
manner too in which he had discharged the duty of chair- council themselves investigating it. For himself, nothing duties of that high office.
man to the Dock Trust was also a guarantee that, if could induce him, were he so circumstanced, to take that Mr. BLACKBURN had voted for the adjournment at
elected to the office of Chief Magistrate, he would dis-
chair until an investigation had taken place ; and he the last meeting from a feeling thathim
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charge the duties connected with it firmly, faithfully, and thought Mr. Sands would stand in a better position next to Mr. Sands an opportunity of vindicating the charge
impartially. He had, therefore, great pleasure in second- year for the honour to which he asphiried:
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The MAYOR said he had a communication from Mr. if the votes were taken.
Corrie, the receiver of the Town Dues, on the subject of Mr. DAVID HODGSON was compelled against his in- upon his claims at this meeting; and so it appeared was
what had occurred at the last Council, and wished to clination to rise for the purpose of expressing his senti- the case. He felt, therefore, surprised that Mr. Sands
have the opinion of the Council if he should read it. ments upon this subject. He felt that there was a very should offer himself for the office, whilst a prima facie
Munr• c
ht it was the duty -of the great singularity in the coincidence as to time of Mr. case against his fitness was still undecided, and was con-
Council thought
electg the Mayor. He would Corrie's communication, and he felt inclined to think that winced that he would better have consulted his honour,
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therefore object to any papers being read until the Mayor , there was some lurking cause for that coineidence some- and satisfied the public mind, by allowing another gentle-
had been ISAAC HOLMESfirst
had been elected. where. The charge had been called a grave one, but it man to occupy the chair, and presenting himself for elec-
The MAYOR said he had also received a communication was also an indiscreet one ; to decide it, however, was tion, with a cleared reputation, another year. As between
from a committee of Merchants upon the same subject. beyond the powers of this council. It must go before a the two candidates, he certainly had a leaning towards Mr.
Mr. TOULMIN thought the Council had nothing to do legal tribunal to decide what was the law of the case, and G. H. Lawrence ; and in forming this, he was influenced
with communications. It was their duty to proceed at it was not at all competent for any committee, or any body by the liberal views which Mr. Lawrence had entertained
once to the election of Mayor. of men, to decide upon a question of law, and purge a on the subject of the Corporation Schools. For his views
The MAYOR.—But these documents bear on the elec- man's honour as if they were deciding a Newmarket bet. on that question alone he should vote against Mr. Sands.
tion; and, notwithstanding what Mr. Toulmin states, I Nine years ago Mr. Corrie had brought this question be- He (Mr. Blackburn) would never give his vote for
feel it to be my duty to state that such papers are in my fore the Finance Committee, and their answer to him was any man who would be a party to inflicting the
possession. (Hear.) " get what you can !" They had no definite law upon the gross hardships of excluding the po C chi
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Mr. BLACKBURN thought that as the papers had re- subject; and instead of this council visiting-Mr. Sands' ren from the Schools of the
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ference to the subject they ought to be read. He would conduct with reprobation, the council ought to thank him i Lawrence then could assure him that he had not, as was
however be glad to hear the Town-clerk's opinion upon for affording them the opportunity to determine what was reported, retracted the opinions which he entertained 12
the subject. the law. The council cannot be afraid of submitting these months ago, he should have his sup port. If he could not,
The TOWN-CLERK said he thought the Mayor perfectly claims to the decision of the authorities of the land. It he should walk out when the votes were taken.
in order in having the communications laid before the is discreditable for them to attempt to settle any such Mr. BIRKETT said he felt sorry that the charge had
Council. question amongst themselves. Mr. Hodgson remarked ' been brought forward against Mr. Sands in such a man-
Mr. BUSH ELL thought that as no direct charge had been upon the impropriety of information having been wi.h. near, but he doubted not he would, when the proper inves-
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The MAYOR..--IS it the pleasure of the Councethat I gesses. never thrown the first stone, lie stated that lie should
should read the documents? (Cries of "Yes, yes," and Mr. HODGSON proceeded to give the heads of a num- have had no difficulty in gising his vote to Mr. Lawrence,
" Read, read.") ber of qnestions which he had proposed to the Town yet what had been said by Mr. Blackburn had decided the
Mr. SHUTTLEWORTH (the Deputy Town-Clerk) then Clerk to be put to Mr. Corrie and answered, but was question in his mind. If Mr. Lawrence was to be brought
read the letter of Mr. Corrie to the Mayor, dated the 6th told that they could not be entertained. He Proceeded to forward it should be by the majority and not the n • -
nnority
of November, and which accused the house of Sands, give the transactions of several houses in 1842 and 1843, of the council.
Turner, and Co. of being in the habit of getting bales and asked whether any remonstrance had been made on Mr. CHALMERS said there was no ground to sup ose
passed as trusses, and chests as boxes, in order to evade the subject ; but could receive no reply. He now asked that Mr. Currie had been instigated out of doors to
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the dock dues. The letter has already appeared at length the Council why Mr. Sands had been charged for having forward the charge; but the only question they had to
in the public papers, and therefore it is unnecessary to entered 4299 boxes and trusses in 1843, whilst Messrs. consider was whether the practice was right or wrong.
publish it again. The next letter which Mr. Shuttleworth Taylor, Potter and Co. had shipped 5000 and upwards, The investigation could only be legitimately gone into by
read was another from Mr. CorriAo the Mayor, in which without remonstrance. the council. He agreed with Mr. Blackburn, that if Mr.
he more fully entered into the charge against the house of The MAYOR called attention to the fact that a portion Sands were elected it would be tantamount to consider-
Sands, Turner, and Co. Mr. Corrie stated in the letter of the goods shipped by one of the houses named were ing him guiltless.
that he complained of the system so far back as the year entered as bales and cases. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE expressed a hope that his friend
1834. He particularly noticed a complaint which he made Mr. Hooosos proceeded to say, that if the goods Mr. Hornby would withdraw his (Mr. Lawrence's) name.
in that year to a Mr. Blake, who was in the employ of shipped by Mr. Sands had been spread over a great space He should not himself vote against Mr. Sands. He only
the Messrs, Sands, Turner, and Co. Some of the trusses of time, he could have no proof of the charge now made, thought that, after what had happened, it would be more
which he then complained of contained from 102 to 105 and it was absurd and injurious to bring such a charge, advisable for that gentleman not to come forward on this
cubic feet. He told Mr. Blake that he should inform which it was utterly impossible to substantiate. He re- occasion ; but that was a matter for his own consideration.
Messrs. Sands, Turner, and Co., of the circumstance, in marked upon the paltry amount of the dues said to be He (Mr. L.) had not withdrawn any of the opinions he
the hope that system would be changed. Mr. Blake af- improperly paid, and asked if it was dignified in this entertained on the school question. He entirely agreed
terwards called at his (Mr. Corrie's) office, and stated council to listen to a charge so trifling, affecting the ho- with the views of the Government on the subject, and
that other merchants were in the habit of getting their nour of a gentleman thought worthy by a majority of his regretted that Sir J. Graham had been baffled in his
goods passed in a similar manner, and referred to the fellow-townsmen to fill the office of Mayor of the second attempt to introduce his system in the manufacturing
houses of Mr. Wm. Brown, and Mr. Wm. Rathbone ; commercial city in the empire. Had such a charge been districts.
but he (Mr. Corrie) on referring to the accounts of those made against himself, he should have taken quite an op- The Council then proceeded to the vote, for both can-
gentlemen, found that there was no authority whatever posite course to that taken by Mr. Sands, and, appealing didates, and Mr. Sands was elected by majority of
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for the statement. Mr- Corrie conducted by stating that to the law, defied any imputations which such a charge 19. The voting
was as follows --
he had no alternative, in the proper discharge of his duty, could bring. He should support Mr. Sands with his vote, For Mr. Sands.—Councillors D. Hodgson, Shand, R.
than to bring the matter before the Mayor and Council. and trusted, for the honour of this council, that Mr. Sands Houghton, I. Holmes, Blundell, Edwards,Ti Rae
Mr. BRAateme-MooRE inquired the date on which Mr. would be elected, not only by a great majority, but unani- Toulmin, Aspinall, Sothern,Royden,G. Tinne,
W.
G. Hornby, •IN .
Corrie first discovered the system. mously. Birkett, Wood, Boutflower, Bushell,
Kilshaw, Rigb
The MAYOR replied that it was in the year 1834. Mr. JOSEPH HORNBY said that he thought the discus- Lloyd, Jones, Parker, Plumpton, Glazebrook, A. Lace,
ace,
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE inquired from the Mayor when sion had now been carried quite far enough, and in order Trotman, Harhord, Sheppard, and Smith; Aldermen R.
he received the first communication from Mr. Corrie. to bring it to a conclusion he had another gentleman to Houghton, J. Lawrence, Crook, Bramley-Moore, MolY-
The MAYOR replied that he received the communica- propose in lieu of Mr. Sands. neux, and Chilton-35.
tion on Monday morning, the 6th. Mr. AIKIN thought that as the matter relating to Mr. For Mr. G. H. Lawrence.—Councillors W. Thornhill,
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE.—At what time ? Sands had not been disposed of, the time was not yet Chalmer, Blackburn, Preston, H. Holmes, Aikin, H.
The MAYOR.—About a quarter before ten, my usual come for Mr. Hornby to propose another person. Hornby, J. Holmes, Stewart, H. Lawrence, J. Hornby,
time for coming to• the Town-hall. My clerk told me Mr. HORNBY would not take up much of the time of the and Leigh ; Aldermen Barclay, Turner, Freme, Holt,
when I came that Mr. Corrie had been there. Council. Mr. Hodgson thought it sufficient evidence of Moon, and Evans; and the Mayor-19.
Mr. BnAmewe-Mooox.—Was it there waiting, or was meeting the charge against Mr. Sands to implicate other Mr. SANDS was then sworn in, and inducted to the
it delivered after that time? parties, but in his (Mr. Hornby's) opinion two wrongs chair. He said that no one regretted the enquiry that
The MAYOR.—It was delivered in the course of the could not make a right. If other parties had com- had taken place more than himself; but he had a perfect
forenoon, if I recollect aright. mitted similar offence, that was no justification of consciousness that his house had acted right. He was
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.--It had been said that the Mr. Sands ; and with regard to the investigation which himself (as they all admitted) pet fectly unconscious
Mayor presided over a meeting at the Town-hall on sun_ had taken place out of doors, he did not consider it of that they were wrong. His anxious desire was to dis-
day week. As such a report had gone forth, he should much importance. He had not the slightest personal charge the duties that devolved upon him to the satisfac-
like the imputation removed from the character of the feeling against Mr. Sands, but he thought it would be tion of the council and the town at large ; and he besought
Mayor. much preferable that Mr. Sands should not be elected the support of the members, in order that the business
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE said in what he had stated he until he had been acquitted by a committee formed in that might be so conducted as to maintain the high honour
, had no intention whatever in casting any imputation upon town-hall. It was all nonsense to suppose that bales and and dignity of that body.
the Mayor. cases were not known. Was it probable that Mr. Sands
1 Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.—WeII, but I wish to ascertain did not know a bale from a truss, or a box from a chest ? COMMITTEES, &C.
The following gentlemen were elected members of the
whether there is any truth in the report that the Mayor It was nonsense to suppose that. Mr. Hodgson appeared .
did preside at such a meeting. (" Hear, hear," from to think that as the charge was not of much amount, it varn?us committees for the ensuing year, viz.:—
Mr. Birkett.) was paltry and contemptible; but if a poor man man were Finance Committee.—Sir T. Brancker, Messrs. Bir-
The MAYOR.--4 can only say, that I neither attended to steal a small piece of bacon from a shop, he would be kett,
_Bushell, Freme, John Holmes, Hugh Hornby, R.
any meeting, nor heard of any, until Monday morning. punished for it. In his (Mr. Hornby's) opinion the Houghton, jun., Gladstone, H. Lawrence, G. H. Law-
(Hear, hear.) amount had nothing to do with it. Mr. Hornby then, rencn e, Leigh, Moon, Shaw, and Smith.
Watch Committee.—Messrs. •
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE.—I never entertained the after a flattering eulogium upon Mr. G. H. Lawrence, Aspinall, Hugh Hornby, slightest suspicion that you did. proposed that gentleman for the office of Mayor.Trotman, Sothern,
J. Lawrence, Hodgson, Boutflower,
Harbord,
Preston, Sheppard, R ae, Kilshaw, Thornhill,
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.—It is a subject of so much Mr. AIKIN thought it would be irregular to propose
Turner,
importance, that I thought I was right in alluding to it. another party till the present matter was disposed of. He Stewart,
Smith, Parker, G. H. Lawrence, G. G. Hornby,
(Hear, hear.) was however, anxious to reply to some observations made Tinne, Thompson, J. Hornby, R. Houghton,
Mr. BusneoL.—There was another communication. by Mr. Hodgson. sen., Glazebrook, and Plumpton.
The MAYOR said he had received a communication from Mr. HODGSON here observed that be wished to make Improvement Committee.—Messrs. H. Holmes, Tinne,
Mr. Wm. Brown. (Cries of " Read, read.") an explanation with which the Town-clerk was acquainted. Stewart, Kilshaw, J. Lawrence, Plumpton, Turner, Bar-
Mr. SHUTTLEWORTH then read a letter, signed " Wm. The MAYOR.—What is it ? clay, Edwards, and Hodgson.
Brown," chairman of the committee who had investigated The TOWN-CLERK said that Mr. Hodgson wished him Courts of Law Committee.—Messrs. H. Lawrence,
the charge, and informing his worship that he had much to explain respecting the alleged meeting at the Town- Stewart, H. Holmes, Lloyd, Molyneux, North, Hodg-
pleasure in forwarding to him a copy of the resolutions hall on the sth of November. He (the Town-clerk) on son, Plumpton, and Aspinall.
which the committee had adopted. The resolution was that morning was going from one room to the other, when Market: Committee.—Messrs. Aspinall, I. Holmes,
to the effect that the committee, after investigating the he met Mr. Corrie, who told him he had some matter of Kilshaw, Toulmin, Sheppard, Boutflower, Evans, Rigby,
matter, and were of opinion that there was not the slightest importance to communicate. He told Mr. Corrie that Trotman.
ground for imputation upon the character of the firm of he would see him after he had come out of church. n Committee.—Messrs. Chilton, Molyneux,
Sands, Turner and Co. for the manner in which they had They met after church time, and the subject was about Crook, Edwards, Harbord, Hodgson, R. Houghton, sen.,
been in the habit of passing their goods ; and there was the charge against Mr. Sands. He the Town-clerk North, Rae, G. H. Lawrence, Shand, Shaw, Thompson,
nothing in the act of parliament which defined what was then fixed that Mr. Corrie should meet the Mayor Boutflower, and Glazebrook.
a bale and what was a truss, neither did it decide the dif- a quarter before ten o'clock on the following morning. Gaol Committee.—The Mayor, Messrs. Aikin, Evans,
ference between a chest and a box. That was the only interview upon the subject on the Sun- Hodgson, J. Holmes, H. Hornby, R. Houghton, jun.,
Mr. H. HORNET said, that before he proceeded to day, and the communication was made to the Mayor on Turner, and Gladstone.
address the Council, he wished to learn from the Town- the following morning at a quarter before ten o'clock. Town-hall Committee. —The Mayor, Sir T. Brancker,
clerk, whether, if no other candidate were nominated, Mr. AIKIN then rose and spoke at considerable length. Messrs. Barclay, Bushell, Hodgson, B. Moore, and Glad-
and they proceeded to the vote, how they would act if the After replying to some of the statements of Mr. Hodgson, stone.
noes were in a majority. he contended that it would be highly improper for Mr. Health Committee.—The Mayor, Messrs. Blackburn,
The TOWN-CLERK said that the matter rested with the Sands to be appointed Mayor, whilst the present charge Birkett, Bulley, Sothern, Harbord, Houghton, sen., I.
Council themselves, -but the question must be brought to against him was not disposed of, supposing Mr. Sands Holmes, Kilshaw, Sheppard, Lace, Boutflower, Parker,
the vote, and if the nays had it, some one else must be were elected, the first thing he would have to do, would be Glazebrook, Tinne, Toulmin, and Aspinall.
nominated. to appoint a committee which was to investigate the charge Gardens Committee.—Messrs. Crook, Jones, Preston,
Mr. H. HORNBY said he felt it to be his duty, though against him. Mr. Aikin concluded by stating that he Thornhill, Trotman, Royden, and I. Holmes.
Borough Court Committee.—Messrs. North, Trotman,
a painful one, to oppose the election of Mr. Sands ; and conceived the council would be pre-judging the case if
Holt, Lace, Lloyd, Thompson, Edwards, and I. Holmes.
though he entertained nothing but a friendly feeling to- they elected Mr. Sands, and under all the circumstances
Church B pendit C
ure Committee.—Messrs. Molyneux,
wards that gentleman, that could not induce him to of the case, he thought Mr. Sands would act the wiser
Griffith, Lace, Parker, Shand, G. G. Hornby, and Bir-
swerve from what he conceived to be right. He himself part by retiring at once. He should vote against him.
kett.
had come into the council without any object of self-inte- Mr. LACE rose to say that as his name had been fre-
Observatory Committee.—Messrs. Aikin, Blundell
rest, and was sufficiently rewarded if his conduct met with quently referred to in this debate, he felt bound to say
Nicol, Houghton, Sean., Rae, Shand, PI '
Plumpton, and
their approbation ; and he must therefore express his sen- that he still firmly adhered to the propriety of the advice .
Blackburn.
timents freely. The council were called upon to elect which at first he had felt it his duty to offer to Mr. Sands.
as Mayor a gentleman against whom a grave charge He thought that his election at this moment, with an
Fire Committee.—Messrs. Aikin, G. G. Hornby,
H.
had been preferred, at certainly a most unfortunate and enquiry on the subject of a charge brought against his
Hornby, Gladstone, Nicol, Lloyd,ra . Shand, J. Lawrence,
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a most extraordinary time. But the character of Mr. conduct impending against him, would be placing Stewart, Turner, an Sir T. Bncker
Pilot Act.—Messrs. Sothern,
Corrie, who brought it forward, was altogether unim- the Council in a position of some difficulty. He
Commissioners under the
Boutflower, Glazebrook, '
Tinne, G. G. Hornby, and
pugned, and, he had no doubt, been guided by a desire for had been materially influenced in the vote which
the public good. The first communication of that gentle- he should give this day from some remarks which heChalmer.
man to the Mayor was received on the 6th November. had heard had been made out of doors. It was said Auditors of Accounts.—Messrs. Sanderson, Welstead,
three days before the day appointed for the election. A that be was privately of opinion that Mr. Sands was and Green.
consultation was consequently held, and Mr. Sands morally guilty of the offence charged against him.
was advised to consult his friends; and he was advised to He distinctly denied that he was of such an opinion.
withdraw as a candidate, and ask for a full and fair inves- He believed that Mr. Sands was individually, actuated by
tigation. Such a course would have put him (Mr. no unworthy motives in the course which he had pur-
Sands) in a more favourable position ; but it was or- sued, and that be bad done only what he conceived he was
dered otherwise. An investigation out of doors had justified in doing. He (Mr. Lace) should therefore, not-
taken place, and a report was made and published. He withstanding any opinions which he might hold upon the
(Mr. Hornby) considered the result of that investigation subject, give his vote for Mr. Sands.
as highly discreditable to the judgment of the parties who Mr. PARKER said it was his intention to vote for Mr.
had conducted it. They had given a verdict of acquittal, Sands and no other. It was quite wrong that they had
but on what grounds? On, in fact, an open and bold de. not fixed upon the mayor at their former meeting. They
nial of the injustice of the practice charged. The case had, however, two candidates—(" No, no," from Mr. G.
ought to be fully investigated by the council itself, in jus- H. Lawrence)—for the office of mayor. He had a great
tice not only to Mr. Sands, but to Mr. Corrie, and to respect for both, and thought both eligible for the office ;
the constituency of the town • and if they acted upon the but he would give his vote for that man who had always
investigation that had taken place, they would necessarily supported sound Protestant principles. There was no
leave an imputation on the character of Mr. Corrie. man who would support those principles better than
Amongst the majority of the council there would be no Mr. Sands. There was no man who had shown bet-
difficulty in finding a fit and proper person for the office, ter Protestant principles on the School question than that
and he hoped they would not act hastily and under ex- gentleman had, although he was not a member of the Es-
cited feelings. tablished Church of England. He should therefore with
Mr. EVANS could not help concurring in Mr. Hornby's much pleasure support him.
observations. What must be the position of Mr. Sands Mr. BRA stLEv-Mooitit said he would support Mr.
if elected, and an inquiry was to take place? He should Sands. It was an old English maxim to consider a man
think that by such an election they were rendering them- innocent till he was proved guilty. (Hear, hear.) He
selves highly amenable to blame. They were placing, as thought, however, it was for Mr. Sands to say whether
the head trustee of a property, a gentleman accused of he would accept of the office or not, and if he did, ha
injury. He did not think, however, that they should vote must take it with all its responsibilities. Mr. Moore
upon the simple question as to whether Mr. Sands should then went on to state that other houses had charges pre-
be Mayor; for if that question was negatived, they would ferred against them as well as those of Mr. Sands, when
be in effect saying that there should be no Mayor. He he was interrupted by
hoped, therefore, that some other gentleman—and he was Mr. HENRY LAWRENCE, who considered him out of
sure a fit one could be found—in whose behalf the mino- order, on alluding to any other party.
rity of the council who were conscientiously opposed to 'The MAYOR said it would remain for Mr. Moore to
the election of Mr. Sands might have an opportunity of explain.
recording their votes, would be proposed. Mr. MOORE said he had heard of a similar charge against
Mr. BusmELL commented at considerable length on Sir Thomas Brancker, and it would be for Sir Thomas to
the letter of Mr. Corrie, the spirit in which it was writ- say whether the charge was right or not.
ten, and the peculiar time at which it was sent. Why The MAYOR thought Mr. Moore had better retract, or
were Sands and Co. alone alluded to, when the writer go further and explain.
has admitted that others pursued the same practice. It Mr. MOORE said he would not proceed further; but
could not be that they were the largest shippers, for 'such a rumour was afloat in the town. It was not for him
they were not. Then it appeared that a clerk had ver- to say whether it was true or not, but as Sir Thomas was
belly remonstrated with Mr. Sands so far back as nine in the room, he could say whether true or false.
years ago. Mr. Sands returned a proper answer, which Sir THOMAS BRANCKER said that that was the first
was " I Can manage my own business, and if lam wrong time he had heard of such a charge, and that there was no
you can set me right by charging the higher duty." truth in it.
This was not, however, done. Mr. Corrie had seen Mr. The MAYOR thought Mr. Moore had better retract the
Sands rising to honour and distinction. He saw him statement altogether.
elected Chairman of the Dock Committee, and
just when Mr. MOORE expressed his willingness to retract the
he saw his foot upon the very threshbold of the Mayor- statement.
, Mr. Moore, re-
alty—just when he saw him about to be still more ho- The
MAYOR.—I understand that you
noured than before, he came up with this charge. With tract the whole of the statement ?
respect to the gentlemen who had conducted the invest• Mr. Moolea.—Yes.i-

whole being one
spoken, he could
g, be permitted

THE MAYOR'S ALLOWANCE.
Upon the motion of Sir T. BRANCKER, it was agreed
that the allowance to the Mayor should be £2,000, ac-
cording to the resolution of the Council of March, 1836.

QUARTERLY COUNCIL MEETINGS

It was agreed that the three following quarterly meet-
ings of the Council for 1843-4 should be held on the first
Wednesday in February, May, and August, 1844.

ROUTINE BUSINESS

Mr. John Wybergh was re-appointed as treasurer ; the
annual officers were re-appointed ; the charters, deeds,
records, and muniments were ordered to be kept in the
repository, and the common seal in the chest ; the stand-
ing orders were re-passed ; a report respecting dangerous
buildings in Fleet-street was referred to the Finance Com-
mittee ; and the proceedings of the last monthly council
were read.

THE TOWN DUES.
Mr. BusHELL gave notice of motion for Monday to
appoint a special committee of the council, to inquire into
the recent charge preferred by Mr. Corrie.
The MAYOR intimated his intention of resigning the
chairmanship of the Deck Committee.
The council adjourned at four o'clock.

HER MAJESTY'S COACHMAN.—Her Majesty's State
coachman, Mr. Henry Manwal ing, died on Sunday morn-
ing, leaving a wife and large family to deplore his loss.
It is added, he was an old and respected servant of their
late Majesties George IV. and William IV., and of the
present Queen, and universally esteemed by his fellow
servants. He filled the situation as State coachman only
ten months—making the deaths of three of her Majesty's
State coachmen in less than two years.

ACCIDENT IN PLYMOUTH SOUND.—On Wednesday
afternoon, about two o'clock, it being then very squally
weather, a shore boat was seen to upset between the east-
ern end of the Breakwater and Rovisand Pier, by the men
on board the Tavy, the Queen's harbour-master's Wider,
some of whom immediately went off to the spot in a boat,
and picked up an old man in a state of great exhaustion.
They made a signal for assistance, on which Mr. Walker,
who was then on board H.M.S. Caledonia, proceeded to
their aid, and having taken the old man into his boat,
took him on board the Caledonia, in order to obtain med'
cal assistance as promptly as possible; but although 1.
every
y
attempt was made to restore him as quickly as possible, he expired shortly after. The boat sunk a tew minutes
found,
after it was upset, and has not yet been
and it is
supposed it contained a little boy, who, with the old man,
had been out fishing. On Thursday, the body of the old
man was identified by his son-in-law,—Plymouth Timer,

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