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Lordßßordti st asked whether they were in town.

SOUTH DEVON ELECTION.

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;'HOUSE CF LORDS,. THURSDAY. Await, 30. •
±hrtuse met to,day pursuant to- adiourninent. None of-
the-minister,s wese:resent., and hut veryfevi peers. •
Lord- f(ErivaN said as, the Earl of Shaftesbury was not pre-
sent hmshpuid• move that.the Duke of Riehmond be 'appointed
rhairinwir.. •

The motion. way agreed acid the noble-duke took his seat
en, the woolsack, and sat as Speaker;
'iliyers were read by the Bishop of Bristol. '
GAOL COMMITTEE: _ _ _

_ . .
The Duke of IltctimoNo said, in consequence of the late
'ministerial changes there.was not a sufficient number, of me!:t-
bers to.iproceodiwith the business before the vaol committee.
The late Lord President of the Council (Lord.Rosilyn) and
the-Lpril Privy, Seal (Lord Wharncliffe) were appointed mem-
berit„-Of the committee in virtue of Their office and not as morn-
'berg of their lordShiOs• house; consequently on those noble
lords resigning office they ceased to be members of the com-
'Under theserirciiinstances he moved that the Earl of
Itosslyit, Levi Wharoclitre, and Earl Suffield be added to the
gaol committee.—Agreed to.
A number of witnesses 'Were sworn to give evidence before
the'gaol committee, the Marquis of Cholinondelev's estate bill,
and several private bills, and their lordships adjourned until
twelve-o'clock to!mOrroW (Friday).
After their lordship's had been sitting a short time the Earl
of Shaftesbury arrived;- when the Duke of Richmond vacated
the woolsack.

• . Hotse.or LORDS, FRIDAY, MAY 1.
At twelv.e o'clock the Earl of Shaftesbury took the woolsack;
and a witness was sworn in at the bar, preparatory to his giving
-evidence before the committee on gaol dismantle.
The house then adjourned till half-past three o'clock, when
thi Earl of Shaftesbury again presided.
The Earl of Lansdale and the Earl of Scarborough took the.
Oaths, and subscribed the parliamentary roll..
On the motion of the Earl of Shaftesbury, Convers's divorce
bill was read a'first time, and ordered to be read a second tine
an -Monday, May 18th.
Lord • BF:OVUM AM, with a view to giving notice to the suitors
in certain appeal causes, was desirous to state, that in conse-
qUence of recent arrangements made by their lordships, appeal
causes would not be heard before Wednesday or ThUrsday ; but
es it had been previously agreed upon that four Scotch causes
should be heard after the 30th of April, he. Wag anxious tai learn
from the agents whether the parties were prepared to proceed
With them or with any of them.
Mr. Richardson (one of the agents) said be was ready to pro-
ceed with two of the cases.
Leird BROUGLIA tie inquired whethet counsel were initrncted
.on theta? _ .

Mr. Richardson stated that they were.
Lord BROUGHAM wished it to be understood, that on Thurs-
day those two cases should. be proceeded with, unless on Tuesday
contrary notice should be given.
After the titles of these two causes had been mentioned, the
noble and learned lord proceeded to state, that with reference
to the case of "Small and Attwood," which was, sent up
.from
the Court of Exchequer, he had to observe, for the convenience
of the parties concerned in it, that, in consequence of an appli-
cation wade by one of the counsel retained in the cause, wbo
wished to leave-town, which application had been granted, it
could not be taken till after the 13th instant.
The house then adjourned to Tuesday next, at twelve o'clock

-The nomination of the candidates took place at Exeter on
Friday. ,
Botramseoue•of the late members for the county, and
ihe brOther-in-law of Lordhowick, proposed Lord John Russell,
and Ma•Sillitent seconded that nomination. The speeches of
both these gentlemen were frequently interrupted by cries of
No popery," "No coalition," "No O'Connell, &c. &c.
Baldwin 'Fulforda Esq. then stood forward to propose Mr.
Parker, and was received with loud and continued applause.
.He-had come forward to fulfil an office which he felt was an
honour of the higheit charactet—to speak the opinions which
he knew were those of a large majority Of-the county, with re-
' .specato his hon: friend Mr. Parker. Let them look to the
body of yeomanry who had accompanied Mr. Parker to the
bustingsehat morning, and who felt warmly in hie cause, and.
• they would be at once convinced of the success- of his cause.
(Cheers.) The resolution which had been referred•to was not
new. No, it was brought forwaid last session, when the noble
lord was in office, but it was got rid of, because it was said a
-cdhmissioo had heen instituted, and they could not do without
the information which that commission would supply. Till that
- 'aflias done they were not in a situation to legislate on the subject.
t" Bravo.") But the same resolution was brought forward
bow by the noble lord (Russell) himself; finding that the iufor-
niatinn be desired when in office he could now do without, when
• by ?stinging it forward he could unite himself with the enemies
Of the church, and turn out a liberal ministry. (Loud cheers.)
What would be the effect of the resolution ? It was pretended
that the only inteution was to provide for the religious education
of the Irish people;- but its real effect would be, if in any part
or Iceland a parish should be found in which there was nut a
g:ten number of protestants, without inquiry whether they had
Been diminished by the fury and persecution of the catholics
(loud cheers), the church funds supposed not to be wanted there,
but which were required in other parts, should be taken and
applied to other purposes, and wholly foreign to spiritual pro-
testantista. ( Loud cheers.) Fearing the effects of such a melt-
, sure, he-begged leave to -nominate Mr. Parker, who was well
known to them, who had been horn and bred among them, who
had a visible and important stake in the country, who snew
their feelings and interests, who would uphold their rights, and
s the sacred institutions and establishments-Of the country under
which they had so lone- prospered.
Henry Northcote, Esq.,. said that he had formerlynominated
Sir. John Buller on the principle of maintaininsr the institutions
. :tit the country. The electors then had nobly responded to that
call by sending him to patliament, and it was now a great plea-
. sure tor him to notalinase one who was 'attached to the same
principles, and would 'preserve inviolate the same institutions.
(Land eheets.) The events which had 'since occurred he was
..7stire vionld Only serve to make them more determined in follow-
ing,the same course en the present occasion. The resolution of
the noble lord (Russell) would lead to a measure as discredit-
able to themselves as it would be distasteful and destructive to
• .the country. (Cheers.) Among those now in power there had
. teen a-continued struggle for power and place. Aided by their
tee, allies, who from bitter foes were hired to become theit
- friends,. they had launched a weapon agaiest, the protestant
establishment which Wouldat no distant date recoil on their own
. heads. The panacea for Ireland was the apropriation of a sacred
trust to illegal purposes. There was evidently some dictator be-
, hired the scenes who had too much end too destructive a power
over them. (Lend cheers, and "No O'Connell.") The hon.
gentleman then read an extract from the Irish church tempo-
rartties bill, for the purpose of showing that its object was to
conduce to the permanence and stability of the church. The
first report of the ecclesiastical commissioners proved that there
was no surplus whatever at the disposal of the commissioners to
Ist /applied to the building or,-additional churches, which were
quite insufficient for the protestant population, In the face of
that report of ttseir. own commissioners, how could the noble
lord and his colleagues act on his redoubtable resolution? If
so, it would be a signal for the mean of that minister whose loss
' the Countey•new deplored. (Loud cheers.) They wanted Sir
B. Peel to uphold their- rights and privileges, to maintain the
- rights and dignities of the crown, and give the people, as he
alone could give them,' those safe and just measures of reform
which would continue to this country its present state of prospe-
lily, and conduct the government of the country in the true
spirit ofits laws..- (Loud cheers.) He begged lease to second.
the nomination of Mr. Parker. (Loud cheers.) .
Lord J. Russell then presented himself, but in consequence
" - of the immense confusion and impatience which prevailed, and,
thecantinued pouring of the rain, it was impossible in the posi-
tion which we occupied to hear a single word which he uttered.
• • The Sheriff interfered for the purpose of obtaining a hearing,
'lint in vain.
Sir T. Acland also spoke to order. He hoped they would not
agait do themselves the disgrace of refusing to hear their old
county member, who had been honoured and trusted by the
kings and who now came -before them to explain the reasons
. which had induced him to accept office, and to vindicate the
• course he had pursued. He was sure no Devonshire man would
refuse that fair hearing which was even more due to themselves
than to the noble lord. (Cheers.)
• - Lord John Ruseell again attempted. to obtain a hearing,.
What they had just heard was what he expected from the high
- character of T. Sir Aelarid, but it was more necessary for their
character than for his (L',rd J. Russell's) that he should obtain
a fair hearing. For that he was disposed to wait, He hoped
- they would hear one who had like him been three times honoured
• with their suffrages.. (Cries of "Go to 'l'avistock.") It was
, no doubt the interest of some who wished to prevent the candi-
dates being heard, hut the freeholders had no interest in check-
ing free and fair discussion, but that the whole should be heard,
arsd the truth might prevail. He would stand there till sun set
, (`-bravo") in ordet to gain the opportunity of vindicating him-
self. The impatient. question was, whom they should select for
their representative at this eventful crisis of public areirs. It
had been said. he was not a. resident in the county. No doubt,
hating, important duties to perform in the councils of his sove-
reign, he s6ouhl be obliged to spend the greater part of the
year in London, but the same objection would apply to his
opponent if chosen by his Majesty as secretary for the home
. department. (A laugh.) His lordship then proceeded to say
-that the late contest in the House of Commoni,oVits not a strug-
gle for power; hart td carry into effect the principles of the re-
Baratocerniog office Jis hope) to restore to the people.
their right to eject their municipal
,corporation officers.' He
. • fhtifight, the clinich .Ought to-be-maintained; brit •that its abuses
Should bscorrecteda and its revenue; more equally distributed.
As to the resolution he had" brought forward in the house of
'Commons respecting the- Irishclrnrch, lie-was reads- to defend
and prepated• to act upon it. His lerdship then entered at
'thine length' upon the Irish tithe 'question, the revenues of the
_lrish church, und-the unequal manner in which they are at
present distributed. The plan he prophsed to pursue with re-
- spect to edueition was that of the protestant Archbishop-of
...Dublin. His' lordship then referred to the bloodshed which
hat occurred in Ireland in the collection of tithes, and con-
chided bY observing that he had been supported in the- House
of Commons by 330 Members, all of whom -it could not be sup-
poses' were devoted to popery.- In 'Conti:Mallon his lordship
said an objectien had been raised- to him on the ground that
the resolution on the state of the Irish church had been sup-
a ,
.ported by Mr. O'Connell. (Lona groans and repeated cries of
'"Nn popery," "No coalition with O'Connell ~s which lasted
fOi some time.) He had a word or two to say to them on that
Object. Were they to say that a cause musishe bad because
Mr, O'Connell had-supported it? In that-ease whet were they
to say of the reform bill? 'When he (Lord John Russell).pro-
.7.;.. eansea the refo'ini bill, and iwas opposed by those tories *ho now
'pretended to take that ineasure as the new-eharter by which
they should abide,--ischen he- was opp •
•"- -formers no* Such t
and so consistent opposed by those
fanti.re-
grea re ormers,
-in those days he dirt feel it was of very great use to the cause
.
14 had to support, that-Mr. O'Connell an d some 30 or 40 Irish
.
srienabers were foUnd. in every division vindicating that- bill
againat -three who Wished- to maintain the • old abuses of the
lortiugliniongering parliamentary representation. He would
jiry withrespect to . those'queetiens which here about to come
..teftire them, as he . haie said with respect to the reform
' 'ill, he had made no terms, Lord Melbourne and the cabinet
had made no ternia Is‘ith Mr. O'Connell; but ellen they pro-
ses-eseas posed a measure which •they considered right, which they
.a.- as thought would tend to the benefit of Eneland and the peace of
'lreland. they woold..notahrink from or abandon it because it so
:happened that the name of Ms. O'Connell appeared in the list•
..of its supporters. ;In •conclusiou, Lord .John said it had been
put forth in hararlbille and placards that his opponent was
. Early the fanners frientLaThe lion. gentleman "use soon
- . have an opportunity. of speeking, and he hoped they would
•' • • listen attentively to those nl,ins which he had to pronoce for
- a the- relief of th; farmer. The party to whom he -,(Mr: Parker)
- - testoriged, had formerly made the same boast, and every beds-
aa--- • was expecting that they would. 'whett in oflice, certainly-take.
-off the malt tax. But circumstances ailtered; and when marlin:
meat !net, a tory ministry being in power, they_ not only rib-
jecteivto the repeal of that tax, but left it undiminished by one
farthing's reduction. (Cheers.) No doubt they proposed a
measure, the only one they had introduced, for a commutation
-of tithes (cheers). which provided for voluntary commutation,