The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-10-24 00:00:00

MR. IATEBSTER ON REPUDIATION

The following extract from a speech of Mr. Webster,
at. an agricultural meeting in New York, will be read
with pleasure by those who are interested in the debt of
Pennsylvania, to many of whom that unhquidated debt
has brought beggary and ruin :
" Mr. President and gentlemen,—What is the credit
and character of this glorious country, to which we all
belong, abroad ? We are rich ; are powerful ;we
have all the means of accomplishing whatever virtuous
human desire can embrace. But what is our credit ?
And I am not one of those disposed to complain of or to
stigmatise in any way the efforts of the states of this
great union who have sought for funds abroad to carry
on those enterprises and improvements which their sense
of utility has projected ; on the contrary, I think that
the circumstances of the times and the necessities of the
case may justify, at least to a considerable extent, the
engagements into which some of the states, especially
the Western states, have entered abroad. Among those
which have thus justifiably become involved is the state
of Pennsylvania, the richest state in the union, in my
judgment—perhaps I ought to except New York—but,
taking her mineral, commercial, and agricultural facili-
ties into consideration, I don't know on the face of the
earth, excepting England, a richer state than the state
of Pennsylvania. (' Take off her debt,' said Governor
Sewarrl.) My friend Governor Seward says, Take off
her debt.' Her debt—her debt ! What can be the debt
of a state like Pery.:sylvania, that she should not be able
to pay it—that she cannot pay it, if she will but take
from her pocket the money that she has in it? Eng-

The Repeal Association held its usual weekly meet-
ing yesterday, for the first time, in the newly-erected
building on Burgh_quay, called the Conciliation Hall.
This new place of meeting is a quadrilateral structure,
capable of containing from three to four thousand per-
sons. A spacious gallery runs round the entire build-
ing, and at the end, fronting the entrance door, a plat-
form has been erected for the accomodation of the chair-
man, the principal speakers, and the gentlemen of the
press. The place is in a very unfinished state, and pre- ,
sents' a rough and cheerless appearance. It was densely
crowded in every part long before the hour for which
the meeting had been called; but none of the corpora-
tion, as was announced, attended in their robes.
qr. O'CONNELL entered the meeting shortly before
one o'clock, and was received with tremendous cheers.
After a vain attempt for several minutes to address the
meeting, in consesequence of the great inconvenience
arising from the pressure of the crowd in the body of
the hall, he said that he had the high honour of mov-
ing that the chair should be taken by John Augustus
O'Neill, Esq., of Bunnowen Castle—(loud cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN rose amidst loud cheers. The cabi-
net could not expect Irishmen to agree with them - be-
cause they were diametrically opposed, and had 'been
and's debt is in rafted upon her very soil ; she is bound
so for 50 years. In 1819 Wellington held the opinion
that if Catholic emancipation was granted, the next
debt
and Englishmen to the 50th generation. But the
step would be to demand theforfeitedlands.Now 1
•f down' to the veryg earth by P ; and it will afect England
o
that were the case, be (the chairman) would be enti- of Pennsylvania—the debt of Illinois—the debt of any
tled to upwards of £lOO,OOO a year, handed down from state in this union—amounts not to a sixpence in corn-
generations through father to son. (Cheers.) In 1827, parison. (Cheers.) Let us be Americans; but let us
Sir Robert Peel and Mr. Goulburn spoke against Ca- avoid, as we despise, the character of an acknowledged
tholic emancipation, and the present chief justice of insolvent community. (Cheers.) What importance is
England opposed them, and in the following year they it what other nations say of us, or what they think of us,
came down and adopted his speech, (Cheers.) They if they can nevertheless say, you don't pay your debts ?
were called cowards for doing so, but no feeling of that (Applause.) Now, gentlemen, I belong to Massachu-
kind instigated them ; for he was sure they bad acted setts ; but if I belonged to a deeply indebted state, I'd
upon conscientious conviction. (Cheers.) It was quite work these ten fingers to their stumps--I'd hold plough,
a fiction of the law to say that kings could do no wrong ;
for they 'might do wrong, and had often paid very heavy I'd drive plough, I'd do both, before it should be said of
the state to which I belonged, that she did rot pay her
penalties—(hear)—for doing so. (dear.) One set of
statesmen told the king that it would be perjury to
debts. (Loud cheers.) That's the true principle ; let
sign the Catholic emancipation bill, while others forced us act upon it (cheers) ; let us 'go it' to its full extent.
him to subscribe to it. (Cheers.) He (the chairman) (Deafening applause.) If it costs us our comforts, let
hoped that there was a government reporter in the hall. us sacrifice our comforts ; if it costs us our farms, let us
Mr. O'CONNELL.—Yes; there is one from Gurney's . mortgage our farms. But don't let it be said by the
office.
proud capitalists of England. ' You don't pay your debts.
The CHAIRMAN continued to say—that he personally You republican governments don't pay your debts.' Let
knew that there were letters in Dublin from the Duke us say to them, 'We will pay them ; we will pay them
of Kent (the Queen's father), in his own writing, to the uttermost farthing.' fhat's my firm conviction
breathing the greatest and purest affection for Ireland, of what we ought to do. That's my opinion, and water
and expressing a wish to be appointed Lord Lieutenant at a certain critical period. People talked of a federal can't drown, fire can't burn, it out of me. (Loud ap-
lause ) If America owes a debt, let her pay it—let
parliament but what was the meaning of the word
If gentlemen did not understand it, they should not Fi .er pay it. (Deafening cheers.) What I have is ready
express opinions which would give triumph to their foes for the sacrifice. What you have I know would be ready
and fear to their friends. (Hear.) It meant nothing
for the sacrifice. At any rate, and at any sacrifice,
more than a treaty—or, in his opinion, as used by their
don't let it be said on the Exchanges of London or Paris,
leader, a treaty between England and Ireland. (Hear.) don't let it be said in any one of the proud monarchies
A federal treaty was—" that which shall be done by of Europe—' America owes, and can't or won't pay.'
order of, and with the authority of, the senate." (Loud God forbid ! (Cheers.) Let us pay—let us pay. (Long-
cheers.) Mr. O'Neill next described the manner in continued and loud applause.) Let us say to them,
which the Belgian revolution was effected. By the in- ' Produce your bond, and take your money, principal and
terference of France she became a diademed kingdom, interest. Add it all up, and take your money.' (Ap-
to send a king there. (Hear, hear.) Belgium bad and the only part England took in the proceeding was, pl u-e ) Let us say to them, 'We are not your slaves ;
suc-
ceeded accidentally by foreign ietervention—but Ireland
would depend upon Irishmen, on God, and on Ireland. bond—here isyour money—take
will pay ; produce your money —take
w- ea are''. not paupers; we will not be your debtors ; we
If it should be the pleasure of a rash minister, forgetful it:
of the law of God and man—and such a forgetfulness he cheers.) And until that is done, friends,
(This was followed by repeated and
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by no means attributed to the Duke of Wellington, who cannot feel as if we could draw a free breath. I don't
always during his caumagins was most careful of human want to be indebted to the capitalists of Europe ; if we
life; but if, for a moment, he should think of steeping, I owe them anything, let them produce their bill. if my
in the blood of Irishmen, the laurels which Ireland's sons i professional earnings are of any worth--if they are
had placed on his brow, their still remained for them an i wanted—if my farm is wanted—if the conveniences of
interposing power between him and the nation—they life for myself, for my wife and children, are wanted, so
could look to the Queen. He had shown that they had far as lam concerned, so far as America is concerned,
a right to look for hereditary love to Ireland in her Ma- come and take them. (Cheers.) That's the light ground
jesty. Should the Duke resolve to act as he had de- to take, td
lPt us take it. In the north and south, in
scribed, of which from his (Mr. O'Neill's) soul he ac-
quitted:his Grace, one might imagine the Queen, in the ,
;the east and west, if there live any who are descended
from the fathers of the revolution —any in whose veins
words of Shakspeare—" Beware take heed, how you _ -
awake the slumbering sword of war;" -.- _
the name of God to take heed ! He would respectfully
offer his opinion, that if repeal were forced in the hour

particle of their proud spirit—let them rise up and say,
that if we owe Europe, Europe shall be paid. (Loud
cheers.) I wish to breathe the breath of an independent
man. A citizen of a proud and honoured country, I
abhor the idea that my daily happiness is to be marred
by the consciousness that anything disgraceful hangs on
t' country or any n,rt o it. Let o, be

oe the rn of Iland.
..i.epeal held back too long would create n uiationalre bank-
ruptcy. Repeal at once conceded would be productive
of peace, prosperity, and indissoluble connexion with
England—(hear, hear.) But if a collision should take
place—if the Almighty in his anger withdrew his pro-
tection from the empire, the same Gazelle which pro-
claimed the victory of England over her twin sister,
would announce that one nation was depopulated, and
the other tottering on the brink of ruin—(hear, hear.)
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4 they gave me the largest sum, that I would hand in
their money first. I, therefore, beg leave to hand from
them £l6O. (Hear, hear.) I am now about to make a
motion of the utmost importance to the liberty of Ire-
land.
I shall not say one word in support of it. It is
that W. S. O'Brien, Esq., M.P. for the county of Lime-
rick, be admitted a member of the association. (Enthu-
siastic cheering.)
Mr. O'CONNELL said that Mr. O'Brien had been an
anti-repealer, but events had shown him that there was
nothing but repeal for Ireland. He was honest as an
anti-repealer—oh! he was honest and brave, now that
he was a repealer. (Cheers.) The hon. gentlemen then
entered on the subject of a federal parliament, which
had been alluded to by the the chairman. It was for
an ,independent parliament he was looking. He was
firmly attached to the connexion with England; but he
insisted that Ireland had a right to the revival of her le-
gislature. (Heir, and cheers.) He would reject no
man's assistance who went any part of the way with
him. Any man who wished for a repeal of the act of
union might join him until some parliament would
be obtained, and he (Mr. O'Connell) would obtain
the best parliament he could with their assistance.
There never would again be an attack on the part of the
people, and if the government chose to continue the pre-
sent contest, there was determination enough amongst the
people to continue it too, rather than resort to violence.
The hon. gentleman next alluded to the letters of " Phi-
lalethes," in the Morning Chronicle, (the substance of
which will be found in our columns.) The name of the
writer of these letters was a Mr. Trevelyan, a secretary
of the treasury, who was brought into office by the
Whigs, and had been some time in the Indies, where
he was laughed at by the people, as he was now by the
inhabitants of this country, for his absurd statements.
Mr. O'Connell proceeded to censure the letters, and
declared them to be full of misstatements. He gave
notice that he would make two motions to-morrow—
one for a committee to procure petitions in detail from
every parish in Ireland ; the other for a conciliatory ad-
dress to their fellow-subjects in Ireland. They were
working
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for all
classes—for Presbyterian
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benefit for the Roman Catholics exclusively. He would
not take the Repeal, if he got a Catholic ascendancy
with it. ( Hear, hear.) He declared this most solemnly,
and he thought he would be able to convince his Protes_
taut fellow-countrymen of this truth. (Loud cheers.)
He concluded by proposing two resolutions—the first
relating to the preparation of petitions from every parish
in the kingdom, and the other proposing that a con.
cilatory address to their Protestant and Presbyterian
fellow-countrymen be forthwith prepared and issued.
For his own part he solemnly assured them that he
would not take repeal if it gave Catholic ascendancy—
(Hear, hear.)
; Malt,-oqartsnie;alo,aitos,loaedags
These resolutions having been adopted, the secretary ExPORTs._
continued to announce the sums contributed since last qr. ,Indianl.°Vg:
brls.--Ireland. Wheat, 112 qrs. •, Beans, .qqrFrl'
meeeting.
The amount of the rent for the week was declared to Corn, qrs.; Flour, sacks, bits.—Coastwise.
be—T,oo Thousand Two Hundred and Eighly-four 133 qrs. ; Harley, qrs.; Malt, 11 qrs.; Oats,
Pounds. Beans, 0 qrs. ; Pease, 0 qr. ; Indian Corn, 0 qrs
At six o'clock the meeting adjourned till one o'clock 0 loads; Flour, 315 sacks 301 brN.
to-morrow.
Avera.Re prices of Grain, for the week ending Oct. 14, 1913.
Wheat 50S. ad. ; Barley 3os. ltl. ; Oats 17s. ld. Rye 30s .Od
ULTANEOUS SIGNAL FIRES--MOVE. Beans.. 30s. 4d. Peasethe.. 32sixi. e
Id. -
MENT .AMONGST THE PEASANTRY.
averagea7gdareßgaratlecy%. 10 Oats d 7fweekWYe
Wheat 30s
P
The Tipperary Constitution states that "on Thursday Beans.. 30s. gd. I ease.. 325. 1,
night between the hours of seven and eight o'clock the whea..4.soalluty on Foreign Grain, tte . this week.
entire country was literall covered with fires.
From Barley Fs Oft Usti .to 01 Rye.. as lid
Wiwi.. los t lnd.Corn Os Oil I Flour its old
houty
every eminence throug the counties of Limerick, Ditto British Colonies out of Europe.
Clare, and Tipperary, a tire blazed, and all shot into light Wheat.. is. Od. fromßarley-- Os. 6d. I Oats .. 2s. ad. Rye.. 2. lid
almost simultaneously. Fires blazed on the public roads Beaus 2s. Oil 1 Pease Is. I Ind. Corn Os. od. Flour Os, ed
and torches were seen to be borne along by the Country
people in every direction. It was really wonderful to LORD STANLEY'S ELOQUENCE.—Perhaps no quality
witness the exactness with which each fire, for miles istntstvelieLtoarrd)i Stanley's eloquence is more deserving of notice
than its natural and spontaneous character. No parlia-
round, blazed into light, almost at the same moment, angd
nu(g,elsisthciontraratocr,ewrihso.
oorr:itT. e7er:sexotlimiboistetdh hisilSairn simplicity of
the organisation displayed by the incendiaries in lighting
is not clas.icatlariiriesiiiis,pilliouisttyrtlistietoitioiesrsa:nrod language. This
speeches, rialecys,sicOrisricl.ered as literary come
these signal fires was almost incredible. The meaning
of those fires we cannot ascertain, but of this we are cer-
thiOcrnoef-bhriesd
-

at r. us, gentlemen,
proud of our country ; but let us preserve for that coon-
lry the character of a just and debt-paying nation. Let
it never be said among the nations of Europe that the
United States of America—the nation that had its birth
in the glorious scenes of 76—the country of Washington
-the example and great type of all modern republics—
cannot or will not pay its debts ! "

FOURTH EDITION.

Standard-office, Three o'clock

LIVERPOOL CORN EXCHANGE, Tuts DAY

(From Messrs. R. Makin &• Son? Circular.)

Our supplies are considerably increased since the close
of the week, chiefly of Wheat, Oats, Flour, mnl Oatmeal
from Ireland ; we have also to report several cargoes of
Foreign Wheat Roundland, and 2,356 barrels Flour from
Canada.

The enhancement in the country districts during the
past week, with diminishing supplies from the growers, has
effected some amendment in Mark-lane, which, though
barely equalling the advance lately established here, ap-
peared to confirm the improved tone of the trade in the
early part of our market this morning ; but the millers
acting very much on the reserve, in the face of a good sup-
ply of Wheats offering, the transactions in this article
proved very limited in amount, and before the close new
Irish parcels were saleable at only about the increased
rates of Friday, except for very superior qualities, which
reached a trifle more. Foreign Wheats were also dull,
and made no more than on this day week.—Flour was
held for Gd. to Is. advance, but sold with difficulty.
.English Malting Barley varies in quality from 325. to
365. per quarter. Beans more saleable, and Is. per qr.
dearer. Pease in moderate request at the quotations.
Prime Mealing Oats brought 2s. sd. to 2s. 5 per
401 b., though in limited quantity only. Oatmeal was in
better demand, at an increase in value of Gd. per sack on
both old and new.
Since the sale of 1.009 barrels at the close of the week
at 21s. 9d., nothing has been done in Bonded Flour.

ARRIVALS OF CORN.
Fro►n the 17th to the 23rd Oct., 1843, inclusie

COAST

---
CANADA ir".
WISE. , REIGN

- -
Wheat .. Ors. 11497 I 2331
Barley Qrs. 621 831
Malt Qrs. 182 I 812
Oats Qrs. : 11482 225
Rye Qrs.
Beans Qrs. 268 12
Pease Qrs.
ShelledDarleyQrs.
Indian Corn. Qrs..
Rapeseed Qrs.
Oatmeal .. Loads 7511 i 269
Flour, Sacks 7467 i 41
Ditto Brls.

• -
Into Runcorn, Ireland and Coastwise, Wheat, --
1517 qrs. ; Oatme .1, :665 loads ; Flour, sacks.

. ; Pe ;se,
lour, 1021
s ; Indian
Wheat,

25 qrs. ;
Oatmeal,

! aye 30i, 4d

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His were diction, even if the
fact were not
,retalitiaitnSgi.i_nl!peieka,rityainidatihie,
limore the hills were all "ablaze" nu Thum-
g. The lighting commenced about te❑ o'clock, Ratn? thee 18,9_