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said there appeared to be but little

deration to be extended to existing interests

but lie entirely

differed, from him as to the propriety of disturbing those
interests by proposing a new change in the corn laws before
the recent one had had any thing like a fair trial. The noble
lord could scarcely tlatter himself that the magic of his
oratory woul►l induce the house to agree to his motion, and
by so doing reverse decisions which had been so repeatedly

affirmed atter lengthened debates during the present session.
It was contended that the adoption of a fixed duty would
lead to a large extension of our foreign trade; hut this

y was destroyed by the practical result of.what had

.eady done in the adopt

'1
of ft ec trade principle

s we adopted those principles we were met by hostile tariffs

on the part of foreign nations, who did all that in them lay

to enforce a system of restriction

the present corn I

Fame temptations a

3 a mass at a part

cular period of the

:ht be proved by a reference to

the amc

s of delivery. The great fluctuations of price
under the old law could not be alleged against the present

in there L

been no sudden action

—the coffers of the Bank were full, while the
complaints of the British shipowner hed been removed. Fie
was sorry to see, a disposition on the part of Englishmen to
represent the corn law as a question of rent, founded upon
no other principle than that of the selfishness of the land-
owners, when, in fact, it was justified on the score of pecu-
liar burdens pressing on the laud. No reduction of rents
could take place without throwing large portions of land out
of cultivation, and thereby injuring both farmers and la-
bourers. Much stress had been laid upon the necessity of
settling this question ; but how was it possible to obtain a
settlement between the advocates of a fixed duty and the ad-
vocates of a total and icumzdiate abolition of all duty on

on the eurren,

would be only unsettling the question. It would be dis-
honourable on the part of the Government if it disturbed the
victual contract entered into with the agriculturist by the
passing of the existing law, and he wished it to be distinctly
understood throughout the country that. it was not passed
with any latent intention of repealing it. Nothing had yet
occurred to justify a change, and notwithstanding the active
attempts to disturb the minds of the agriculturists he was

convinced that a great portion of them were satisfied with the

s it now stood

Mr. LABOUCHERE supported the motion of Lord John
Russell, and regretted that a measure so recently passed as
the existing corn law should have given rise, owing to the
nnsound principles on which it was based, to incessant agita-
tion and a probability of indefinite danger.
Sir R. PEEL said, that even if the motion of Lord J. Rus-
sell should be carried, the noble lord could still have no hope
that lie could make any proposition in committee which would
be agreed to by those who support his motion for going into
committee. The differences between the advocates of a total
repeal and of a fixed duty would then become at once appa-
rent; and the whole proceeding, therefore, must necessarily
terminate in nothing. Ile had no doubt but that the pro-
position of the noble lord would be moderate enough, but
fixed it could not be according even to his own apprehension
of future circumstances. The ri,gl,t hon. baronet replied re-
riatim to the chief arguments of. the supporters of the mo-
tion, and said he considered the treasure of the last year a
compromise between all the interests concerned, and which
was assented to by the agriculturists on the faith of its being
Believing that it was most mischievous to be
tampering with the corn laws, and believing also
f the Question

that it w•as impossible that
could be arrived at in
lord, he should at or
determination to

tain the la,.v of last session.
vplied, and said that hopelessness of
access was no ground for not brit

Forward

If such a r

questions of parliamentary reform and of Catholic emancipa-
tion never would have been carrit.d. He had often divided
on the question of reform with far less support than he ex-

pected to receive on that occasion

After a few words from Sir IL PEEL in explanation, the
house divided, and the motion of Lord J. Russell was nega-
tived by a majority of 24.1 to 145.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-WEDNESDA

Mr. ilumE ga

notice that on 'Tuesday week he would

bring forward his :notion respect►ng the discontinuance of
the pension to the King of Hanover.
Mr. M. GIBsoN asked if it was the intention of the Go-

vernment to persevere with thy, Factories
siastical Courts Bill, a general feeling being prevalent that
the former measure would be abandoned for the present sea-

II and the F,eele-

sion, in consequence of the frequent postponements which
had taken place?

Sir R. PEEL said that the postponements were attributa-
ble to the frequency of adjourned 'debates. His right hon.
friend (Sir J. Graham) would however make a statement on
the subject of these bills last evening.
The house then resolved itself into committee on her Ma,
sage. and .

jestv's m_
Mr. II um', Objected to the grant of a dowry to the Princess
Augusta of Cambridge, although he admitted that the con-
duct of the Duke of Cambridge in his private as well as pub-
lic life, as compared with that of the other members of the
royal fancily, was deserving of the admiration of, the house.
Ile condemned the motion as emanating from the ministers
of the crown, and as calculated to render the princes of the
blood dependent upon the minister of the day, an evil of
itude when it *as considered what influence those

great ma

sed over a considerable portion of
it right to grant pensions to princes
of the blood, but he was opposend to extending this to the
remote branches of the royal family, for if it were ne-
cessary to pay all the Princes well and liberally, they
ought to be made to provide for their own offspring.
He referred to the pension to the Prince Mecklen-
burg Strelitz, the father of the prince about to be mar-
ried to the Princess Augusta. That pension was granted
on the ground that he was the nephew of the Queen of
England, and as the money was borrowed by the country
at £5 per cent., the pension had already cost the country
£335,000 at compound interest. Where were these timings
to end—where was the line to be drawn—or was the country
thus to be called upon to pension every branch of the royal
family, however remote? According to calculations he had
made, assuming that her royal highness should live fmrty-
five years longer, this pension of £3,000 per annum would
curt the country no less than £500,000. If her Mojesty
was told that this grant might entail such a charge upon the
public, he was convinced she would never sanction it ; and
the ministers, therefore, were the parties to blame for not
stating the ease fairly to her Majesty. The hon. member

necessarily exec

several times complained of interruption, and ut length said
he would name the parties causing the interruption. There
which called itself

a party grossing up in that

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" Young England," and though he might be running counter
to the feelings of Young England, he would still persevere
in stating his opinions. The payments to the royal family
exceeded £700,000 per annum, exclusive of parks, palaces,
&c., and this while the country was in almost a state of
bankruptcy, for it was unable to meet its engagements with.
out- borrowing. The hon. member concluded by moving
"That it is the opinion of this committee that the ample
allowance granted for a lengthened period to his Royal High-
ness the Duke of Cambridge should have enabled him to
make provision for his children ; and that it was neither wise
nor just, in the present state of distress of the manufacturing
and labouring classes of the community, to propose any
dowry for her Royal Highness the Princess Augusta of
Cambridge."

INGLts contended that the crown had lost 47
millions, which sum the. people had gained by the bargain
which it had Ult/iie with the crown for the surrender of the
crown lands. Having thus lost the means of nothing such

grants as the one before the house. the crown had a right to
call upon the parliament to enable it to do so.
Mr. F. linamo did not think the bargain a had one for
the crown, but he did not think that that had anythim; to do
with the question. He was of opinion that as the crown had
given up its means of making provisions such as the present,
it was but reasonable that parliament should be called
upon to do so. This grant was no extension of the line to
which former grants applied, and he thought it was not un-
reasonable that parliament should be called upon to do so.
This grant was no extension of the line to which former
grants applied, and he thought it was not unreasonable to
give £3OOO per annum to the granddaughter of a king. lie
thought, however, that the grant should not come into ope
ration until after the cessation of the pension of the Duke o
Meek!cube). -

Sir RonEitT PEEL said it was the wish of the Government
to make to the house such a proposition as would he deemed
reasonable by every honourable member. There could he
no doubt but that the income of the Duke of Cambridge was
a large one, hut then the demands upon it for charitable pur-
poses were also very large; and it was for the interests of
the public that means should be given to enable royal prin-
ces to promote by their example the numerous charitable in-

ISI t ituttons with which this country abounded. The line was not

this proposition would not be establishing a new precedent. I n_
deed in the case of t he Princess Sophia of Glcucester the grant
was £7,000 a year, while, in the present case, which

With respect to whit had fallen from Mr. Hume as to

o liiii,ters for not infor

penman I;

Majesty would not have credited the statement—(►nuch
laughter)—even on the high arithmetical authority of the

on. gentleman
Mr. flumit re

Increased laughter.)
; and on a division the motion of the

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hon. member was defeated by a majority of 223 to 57.
a of the day were then disposed of, and the

t quite true that the Vice-Presidentship o
n of Mr. Glad.

vacant by tf