The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-10-17 00:00:00

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ing with a greater feel.ng of responsihil,ty—with a inure
trituoplwnt conviction ot the prupriet.y of the cond,,ct of
the people, and of the iniq..ity of their enemies. (Cheers.)
It was true he had passed a mo-t hideous day yesterday,
because for hours he could not raise his confidence in the
people to suck a pitch as not to apprehend th it mischief
might Occur at Clontarf, and a massacre of the people
ensue as the inevitable result of any disturbance. (Hear,
hear.) He would say it was not the fault of the govern-
ment that a massacre did not take place, and if he were to
go to the scaffold for it, he would not hesitate to assert that
if the government wanted to entrap the people, they just
adopted the course calculated to effect their purpose. ( near)
Had it not been for his interposition a massacre would
have occurred. He now called on the people to obey
every thing having the shape or appearance of legality—
if they wished tor safety to 'themselves and for a repeal
of the union. If they follow this course they must in-
evitably obtain repeal—by keeping themselves out of the
power of their enemies, who would never venture to throw
off the mask and raise the dagger against them—(hear
and cheers.) If they did so, it would, of course, be a
different case altogether; but be wanted to carry repeal
without shedding a drop of blood—without crime or
violence of any kind—in such a way as that he could meet
his Redeemer without having anything criminal
to answer for, in that struggle for the liberty of his coun-
try—(cheers.) It had been said that if be was arrested
there might be a struggle. They could say nothing that
more grieved him, for it led to the inference that they did
not believe him to be sincere, when he told them to keep
the peace. He now told them to obey the law even if he
were to perish in consequence of that obedience. The
course of the government with respect to the Clouted'
meeting was, he repeated, calculated to cause the slaughter
of innocent people. They were in possession of the fact
for three weeks, yet did not announce their attention of
putting it down till the last moment. Only for the activity
used, and his being in town, the friends of the people
could not have cautioned them from attending, and the
result might have been fearful. For six months the go-
vernment had permitted, nay, he might say, countenanced
these meetings ; they knew the names of those who took
part in them, yet there ,were no prosecutions—no hint
even of their being illegal—no caution given—in fact, on
the contrary, there was a continual acquiescence and ac-
knowledgment of their legality on the part of the govern-
ment. Up to Friday last such was the state of things,
when suddenly the government thought proper to inter-
fere with the last of their meetings. and one, too, above
all others, characterised by decent tranquillity, for the
requisition by which it was convened was signed exclu-
sively by Catholic clergymen. (Hear, hear.) Why slid
they not publish the proclamation in the Gasette of Fri.
day ? The association might then have had time to pre-
vent the people from attending. It was late on Saturday
before it was issued ; and if he had not sent messengers
to the various parts of the country, whence the people
were expected to attend, there was no doubt that three or
four hundred thousand persons from the surrounding
counties would have assembled at Clontarf on yesterday ;
and, if they had done so, it would be next to a miracle if
some riot were not committed or fomented. (Hear, hear.)
Any of the low Dublin Orangemen could have gone there
and done it. (Hear, hear, hear.) He asserted that a set
of men who could act so, were unworthy of being entrust-
ed with the government of Dalkey Island. (Laughter.)
He then took out a copy of the proclamation, and com-
mented on it in a sneering and contemptuous tone, clause
by clause. One clause referred to placards calling on
people to march in military order. Of these placards the
Association knew nothing : they were anonymous. The
charge that their meetings tended to bring the govern-
ment and constitution into contempt, he utterly repu-
diated. Ile wished only to revive the constitution, and
this charge (to use the term of a friend when a man spoke
nonsense), mere " fudgeography." (Great laughter.) He
denounced the addressing of the proclamation " to all
magistrates, officers," &c., as illegal in language, and of
ferocious authority, and quite different from the proclam-
ation issued in Wales, in which a complete catalogue of the
crime was set forth, and ended with enjoining all " magis-
trates, sheriffs, under-sheriffs, and all other civil authori.
ties whatsoever to be aiding in the suppression of these
outrages." In Irelani there had been no such outrages,
and the persons who issued the Irish proclamation should
be impeached for the abominable latitude as to the per-
sons to whom it was addressed. If they put such a procla-
mation into the Corn-Exchange Rooms, he would
be the first to go into it, notwithstanding. If they
sent police or soldiers to arrest them, they would
submit at once. The crime would be the govern-
ment's—the legal vindication should be theirs—(cheers.)
Mr. O'Connell then announced that he intended to have
simultaneous meetings on two occasions, but he would
not then fix the days. They would take place before the
meeting of parliament, and would be for the adoption and
signature of petitions to parliament. He concluded by
impressing on the meeting the necessity of an implicit
obedience to the laws, but at the same time never desist-
ing from legally struggling for repeal, and proposed a
resolution to that effect. _

Captain SEAVER, of Newry, seconded it, and it was
adopted.
Mr. O'Connell announced the amount of the week's
rent to be £1.10538. Id.

Major NicnoLsoN, who said it was the proclamation
brought him there, was the second chairman, and the
meeting seperated after giving three cheers for Mr. O'Con-
nell.

The above we have abbreviated 'tom the Dublin Even-
ing Mail of yesterday. In addition to the circumstantial
account given, our Contemporary states that the moment
the paper was going to press, his question of " What will
Mr. O'Connell do next," has been answered by n less a
personage than Mr. O'Connell himself; for his reporter
who has just returned from Calvert theatre, brought
an acconn►, that the Liberator had entered into a solemn
undertaking
" TO PROSECUTE AT LAW EVERY MAN
WHO SET HIS HAND TO THE PROCLAMATION
PROHIBITING THE CLONTARF MEETING,"
Farce after Tragedy is fair and quite in O'Connell's
view ; but he may shortly find other more serious matter
to occupy himself with.

On Tuesday, in Dublin, nothing worthy of observation
occurred, beyond the very general circulation of a rumour
that government, far from having any idea of doing things
by halves were shout to follow up their first blow by a
vigorous prosecution of the leading repeaters, and it was
asserted that informations against several parties had al-
ready been sworn. The tone in the entire party in that
locality was represented as very materially lowered, and
there were very evident symptoms of an inclination to
back out of their late position.

The Repeal Association met on Wednesday for the
avowed purpose of " taking into consideration a reply to
the pro-slavery manifesto of the repeaters of the State of
Ohio; and also an address to the people of Ireland, to
allay the irritation caused by the recent proclamation."
The proceedings were of a very tame character, wanting
in all that braggadocia which has characterised them in
former times. A great portion of Mr. O'Connell's sweet
breath was expended in defending his late remarks on the
character of Louis Philippe and his offer of an Irish bri-
gade, in case of a successful counter revolution in France,
to defend the throne of Henry V. He next addressed the
meeting on the subject of the late proclamation. Ile had
to move that it be referred to the committee to prepare the
frame of an address to the Irish people, and to have it
printed and circulated, exhorting them to persevere in
their agitation for repeal; but cautioning them against
any excitement in the present crisis, or, indeed, at all—
(hear, hear.) He was encouraged to adopt this course by
an address to him from the corporation of Limerick.
which he had received that morning. Having read tl i;
document Mr. O'Connell continued to say that his object
now was to soothe irritation—to calm down the public
mind, and to keep the repeal cause steadily progressing
by adhering to those principles so often inculcated by him,
wohibitory of physical force of any kind—(hear, hear.)
The rule now was not only to yield to authority but to
the semblance of authority. So long as the executive
clothed itself with the appearance of legal authority, so
long he (Mr. O'Connell) claimed from the people of Ire-
land submission to the law, and a total abstinence from
violence or outrage—(hear.) He was pleased to find that
from every part of the country letters were fast coming up,
stating that the people were universally determined to fol-
low the advice he had given, and that there was no danger
whatever of an outbreak. But it would bemecessary to
repeat that advice, and to adopt every means in their
power of reminding the people of their duty. He had
himself intended to draw up an address to the people on
this subject, but he thought it better to make the address
in the shape of a speech to-day, atd refer it to the
committee to draw up the documen with deliberation.
After describing the mode in which the proclamation had
been got up and issued, Mr. O'Connell proceeded to state
his opinion that it was a military proceedure, dictated by
Lord Lyndhurst and the Duke of Wellington, on which
the rest of the cabinet had not been consulted ; and as-
serted that it was intended to have bean read, as a kind
of riot act, at the meeting, allowing them only a quarter
of an hour to disperse hefore bringing the troops upon
them. (!) He proceeded then to lay down his plan of fu-
ture operations, which may shortly be described as con-
sisting in the getting up of petitions from every parish in
Ireland, as a mode of amusing his dupes until the present
excitement shall have ceased ; and then he would com-
mence his proposed simultaneous meetings. The whole
proceedings were of a most tame and craven nature, the
only feature worthy of notice being the transfer of the re-
spo .sibility of having uttered the seditious placard, calling
for the mounted repeaters to proceed to the meeting at
Clontarf in military order, from the shoulders of O'Con-
nell and the Council to those of a Mr. F. Morgan, de-
scribed as one of the solicitors of the Dublin Corporation!
The meeting was adjourned to Monday next.

There will be a general illumination in Cork, this day
(Tuesday), the anniversary of the birth of the distin-
guished Apostle of Temperance.

I iThe firm of Messrs. Gould and M'Namara, owing to
the combination existing amongst the journey►nen coop-
ers, was compelled to send 200 firkins of butter on Fri-
day to Liverpool, to be trimmed and coopered.—Cork
Constitution.

DEATH OF THE PRESIDENT OF CARLOW COLLEGE.—
The Carlow S nand announced the death on the 2nd
inst., of the Rev. 1)r. Fitzgerald, President of the Ro-
man Catholic college of Carlow for a period of 41 year.
In 1830 he refused to pay the O'Connell tribute, and told
the deputation that waited on him for that purpose, that
Mr. O'Connell was " a knave in politics, and a hypocrite
in religion."

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

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vernment for this loss. Bat an action will be brotighl
for the recovery. And may-be they won't be able tc

Mr. Brunel, the celebrated engineer, with other gentle-
men, are at present in town, on an inspection of the coast,
with a view to ❑►ake a packet station in the most eligible
position, for the purpose of landing English mails desiioed
for the south and east of Ireland. It is also contemplated
to reclaim the vast submerged lands which now Fe useless
wastes, within our harbours and lakes.—Wexford Inde-
pendent.

Tag YEOMANRY.—The Secretary of State has written
to the Lord-Lieutenants of Counties in the Northern
District of England, directing the Yeomanry Corps to
hold themselves in readiness to assemble at a short notice,
on the requisition of Lieut.-General Sir Thomas Arbuth-
not, the General Commandant of the Northern District of
England. We suppose that this order has been given
merely to provide for any contingency that may arise in
case further troops should be required in Ireland.
Inisn SQUADRON.—The ships of war which at present
compose the Irish Squadron are the Volage, 26, Capt. Sir
W. Dickson, Bart., stationed at Cove, bearing the flag of
Rear Admiral Bowles, C. 8.; the Meteor steamer, Lieu-
tenanant.Commander George Butler ; the Lynx, 3, brig-
antine, Lieutenant-Commander John Thomas Nott, sta.
tioned at Tarbert, on the river Shannon ; the Rhadamen-
thus steamer, Master Corn. Thomas Leen, in attendance
on the Squadron, and the Snipe Cutter, Lieutenant
George Raymond. The experimental squadron, which
comprises the Caledonia, 120, under the command of
Captain Alexander Milne, the Camperdown, 104, Cap-
tain Francis Brace; the Penelope, 22, Steam-ship, Cap-
tain William Jones, and the St. Vincent, 120, Flag Ship,
under the command of Capt. R. F. Rowley, and bearing
the flag of Admiral Sir C. Rowley, G.C.8., are at present
on a cruise, and are shortly expected in this Harbour.
The Lucifer, steamer, Captain W. F. Beechey, and the
Comet, steamer, Corn. George A. Frazer, have been en-
gaged for some time in surveying the Irish coast.
EXTRAORDINARY RITMO UR. —The Dublin Evening
Mail of Wednesday contains the following paragraph :
" An impression is very generally abroad—and exclusively
amongst Mr. O'Connell's own followers—that the Procla-
mation put forward by the Lord Lieutenant and Council,
was issued at the special request of Mr. O'Connell him-
self ; and that he was furnished with a manuscript copy,
and before the original had been in type, with a view of
having his own ready to promulgate simultaneously with
that from the Castle. We do not undertake to vouch for
the truth of this assertion ; hut we can assure our readers
that it is extensively circulated as a rumour; and it is
reasonable to suppose that to it is to be ascribed the ne-
cessity of Mr. Mark Callaghan proposing, at the Abbey-
street meeting, on Monday, a ' vote of confidence in
O'Connell,' with the addition, ' that the people were re•
solved to adopt any measure that their great leader might
think fit to propose for the safety and peace of the em pi re.'
It is not usual, apropos to nothing, to move votes of con-
fidence, unless confidence be shaken."--[Whether this
rumour be correct or not, this much we confidently he.
lieve, viz., that there is not a man in Ireland who rejoiced
more in the course taken by government than Daniel
O'Connell. It gave him a chance of escaping a halter,
which no effort of his own could have brought about.—
ED. L. S.]

STATE OF SOUTH WALES

A daring outrage was committed on the night of the
6th instant, in the neighbourhood of Carmarthen. On
Saturday last, two men named Evans, master and ser-
vant, were apprehended on the information of a farmer
named Thomas, belonging to a parish twelve miles from
Carmarthen, charged with haling, on the night of the
30th September, together with others, with blackened
faces, created a disturbance, assaulted the said Thomas,
and obtained from him 40s. on false pretences. On the
same night (the 6th instant) Thomas, after giving the
information, was afraid of going home till late, and con-
cealed himself behind a hedge. About one o'clock he
heard a blowing of horns, and presently saw his house on
fire. It appears that the house was surrounded by a moh
of about 300 persons, most of them mounted and blowing
horns, hooting and firing guns. They then set fire to the
premises, and remained around, preventing any attempt
to save them, until the whole was consumed. The furni-
ture of the house, and forty cheeses, were destroyed. The
mob then dispersed. The reason assigned for the outrage
is, that Thomas had informed against two of the Rebecca-
ites the day before.
The Calvinistic Methodists of Pembrokeshire (a nume-
rous sects have, at their quarterly meeting, strongly de-
nounced the outrages going on, and strictly enjoined the
members of their society to mark and denounce any indi-
vidual found to partake in them.
The Chaplain of the Union Workhouse at Cartnarthen,
having expressed an opinion that " the popular feeling is
decidedly hostile to the New Paor Law, and views with
disgust and abhorrence the salaries paid to its various
officers," the Poor Law Commissioners have addressed
to this gentleman a letter, expressing an opinion, that if
such are his views, he had better not " be identified with
the details of its daily administration." Mr. Rowlands
has addressed a letter in reply to the clerk of the Uni.aa
Workhouse, in which he says, that the unpopularity of
the Union Workhouses cannot be denied ; that thousands
upon thousands have petitioned the Queen to relieve their
wants by other means than bastiles. He adds, that were
it not for the workhouse there being garrisoned by soldiers,
"one stone would not long stand upon anatber. '
Two men were apprehended on the 7th for destroying a
gate near Llandovery.
On the 9th inst. a large meeting was held at Llechryd,
a fine village near Cardigan, to consider local grievances,
and particularly to take measures for the removal of a
weir that was peculiarly obnoxious to the inhabitants.
The village is beautifully situated on the banks of the
river Tivy, across which the obnoxious weir is pla':ed.
The weir is said to prevent fish ascending the river from
the sea, to the great injury of the poor cottagers who re-
s'cle on its banks, most of whom keep what are called
" coracles," or small wicker boats, for fishing. With
the aid of nets, these poor men are often enabled to sup-
port their families by occasionally taking salmon which
get over the weir during the freshes which come down the
river. The weir having from this cause become highly
obnoxious, has recently been destroyed by a large party
of men calling themselves Rebeccaites, and again re-
erected. At the meeting there were present many of the
gentry of the country, and Mr. E. I. Williams was called
to the chair. He proposed that, as the weir was legally
constructed, they should legally get it removed. It £4OO
could be collected, he would undertake to subscribe £lOO
himself (hear); but on this footing—that they should wait
until the next spring, the fishing season now being almost
over. On that condition he would use every exertion in
his power to obtain the required subscriptions. ( Hear,
hear.)—This announcement was received with great ap-
plause. The meeting filially agreed to a petition to the
Queen for the redress of the grievance stated, and others.
In Carmarthen numerous arrests had been made within
the last day or two, in consequence, as it is said, of Jhon
Yscypwrfawr having turned Queen's evidence and impli-
cated various parties.
A meeting of the inhabitants of the several pari-hes
round Llangadock was held on the 10th on a hill side
near that place. There were about 1000 persons present,
farmers and farm-labourers, many of the former substan-
tial men. Mr. Morgans, baptist minister of Tallyryn,
was called to the chair, and stated that the meeting was
for the purpose of petitioning for an inquiry into existing
grievances, and of resolving to repress nightly outrages.
He alluded to those burdens on the people which have
been often described as oppressive to them—tolls, fillies,
rents, and the new poor-law, which he designated as a
harsh and oppressive measure. Mr. Lewis, a farmer,
spoke with great animation against the new poor-law, and
the salaries paid to the union officers. The rural police
was wholly unnecessary, and would impose fresh burdens
on the people. The county rate had been most lavishly
and improperly expended without control. He concluded
by moving that a petition expressive of loyalty and attach-
ment to the Queen, and embodying resolutions similar to
those agreed upon at former meetings, to discourage
nightly outrages, should be adopted. The Queen's pro-
clamation was read, and the meeting was called upon to
discourage all nightly and other outrages. He said that
the poor-rates, tithes, and other charges, were much too
high ; but was in favour of the new poor-law. A speaker
said that the proclamation went to teach the people, in
the hope of reward, to become false swearers. Another
speaker said the proclamation amounted, in plain lan-
guage, to this—How are we to catch 'Becca? It would
be well at the same time to ask who she was. Some said
she was the mother of all farmers ; but the truth was, that
poverty was 'Becca (great cheering), and what kept her
up was grievances. She was here one day, and elsewhere
another. The grievances complained of were named in
the petition. Every one would wish to catch 'Becca, and
get rid of her. (Cheers.) The way to get rid of her was
to get plenty of food, in order to give enough to her. The
toll-bars that were oppressive ought to be taken away.
He admired the constitution of England, and thought
there was not a better man in the country than the Prime
Minister, but they would be enabled to judge of him bet-
ter after the meoting of that day. The Bible said, " He
that bath ears to hear, let him hear. If Sir R. Peel
Wanted peace, let him listen to what they said. The
Chairman then put the petition to the meeting, and it was
unanimously agreed to, and the meeting separated.
The active reporter of the Times, under the date of
Thursday last, states, that in consequence of the conces-
sions made in various parts by the gentry and others, in
respect to tithes and other burthens, the happiest results
have followed, and that the country is gradually becoming
more settled. The proprietor and the lessee of the
Lleliryd Weir (above noticed) had expressed a willing-
ness to abolish it at a low rate of compensation, which,
coupled with the manner in which some of the gentry then
came forward to subscribe towards that compensation,
was immediately followed by expressions of satisfaction
and content by the people.
In the neighbourhood of Carmarthen nightly meetings
were still however held, and the blowing of horns was
heard amongst the hills. Fifty of the metropolitan police
had arrived in the town, and it was supposed would prove
more efficient than any hitherto employed. The writer of
these reports attributes much of the discontent to the op-
pression of landlords, and the tyrannous manner in which
some of the lawyers they employ proceed against tenants
by distraint. With respect to the approaching special
commission, he says :—" Many speculations are afloat as
to the effect of the special commission just announced to
pry the prisoners taken for Rebecca outrages. Some
think that a salutary terror will be created by it in the

minds of the people, and that it Will put an end to the
disturbances. This, however, is a matter about which it