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other ports of Portugal where the authority of her most faithful
Majesty shall not lie established and acknowledged, and it is
supposed the blockade is already in force." Now, he would
ask, when this 'notification was written, was it not known that
a signal,victory bad been achieved, that the fleet of Don Migpel
had been captured, and was not the intention of establishing, a
blockade :announced? ( Hear.) This being the case, and
looking to•the rapidity of the movements of the officer who cap-
tured the fleet, surely every one must have come to the conclu-
sion that he would not be likely to remain in the bay of LagoS.
But he could adduce examples, where there were two contend-
ing parties, in which this government, without inquiring into
the rights of either, gave notice that, in accordance with the
law of nations, one.of them had established a blockade against
the other, examples were not wanting in which that principle
was acted on in late
.years. When the separation of the
South American colonies from Spain took place, and long be-
fore this country acknowledged the independence of South
America, the blockade of their ports by Spain was regularly
notified; again in July, 1827, the Greek blockade was recog-
nized. Another case similar to the present occurred when no-
tice was given of an intention to blockade: Funchal. He had
only to add, inasmuch as the noble earl's -attack was directed
not so much against him (Earl Grey) as against. his noble
friend at the head of the foreign department,lhat he' had'the
utmost confidence if his. noble friend should.ever be driven,- by
the pressure of affairs at the moment, to act, without consulting
his colleagues, that he would do nothing incorrect; at the same
time, in reference to the affairs of Portugal, he (Earl Grey)
was, prepared to take his full share of the responsibility.
.The Duke of SUSSEX rose in consequence of the noble earl's.
(Vane's) allusion• to hini. He had often heard the noble earl ad-
dress the house, and allude to a variety of topics in a. desultory
manner, therefore he did not feel surprised at the noble-earl hav-
ing mixed up his name with the question of Portugal. The no-,
hie earl wished to censure him for attending a meeting relative to
Capt. Napier. Differing with the noble earlas he did in sentiment,
he declined to take a leaf out of his political or diplomatic opinion.
He had attended toe meeting because an attempt was made to
crush the national feeling of pride expressed at the conduct of
Capt. Napier, and he wished to bear testimony to that gentle-
nian's private character. The noble earl said he spoke as a
soldier; he (the Duke of Sussex) respected soldiers, but he was
somewhat jealous of them, and conceived that when any man
put a blue coat on and walked through the streets, he had a right
to entertain his private opinions without being influenced by
professional motives. He had stood forward to show respect to
an individual of great merit add ability, who had achieved an
action which he hoped would soon set the question of the sove-
reignty of Portugal at rest. He would act precisely in the same
way if the thing was to be done again. He was responsible to
no man, and if he had acted contrary to public opinion lie
should not have been worthy of the seat which-he held in that
house.
The Earl of ELDON could not admit that the illustrious duke,
or any. other noble lord, was at liberty to counteract' the deter.
mination of the Sovereign to maintain strict neutrality between.
this country and Portugal. No man .on earth snore respected
and admired the gallantry of Captain Napi4r, but he had sub-
jected himself to dismissal from hisMajesty't service, and there-
fore it did nut become the illustrious duke, or any other peer, by
supporting that indiVidual, to assist -in counteracting his Ma-
jesty's declaration.
Lord WYNFORD maintained that the commerce of this coun-
try would be endangered by the present blockade.
After a few words from the Marquis of Londonderry, the mo-
tion for the papers was allowed to stand over till the fitness of
producing them had been considered by ministers.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE then moved the order of the
day for the third reading of the

IRISH CHURCH TEMPORALITIES BILL.
The Marquis of HEADFORT Ras understood to support the
bill, on the ground that it was essential to the conservation of
the church of Ireland.
The Earl of ELDON felt it to be a duty he'owed to his Sove-
reign and his conscience to oppose the present bill. It went to
subvert the established Protestant church of the state, and he
held that a national religion was essential to the very existence
of the state, and that of all national religions that of-the church
of England ar was the best and most favoable to the political, no
less than the moral, well-being of the people. It was the
duty of the legislature to preserve the union of church and
state, and promote the interests of the church, instead of, as
with the present bill, very seriously injuring both. (Hear.)
The noble and learned lord attributed the present bill to the
measure introduced in 1829 by the noble duke(Wellington) for
the removal of Catholic disabilities. 'lWhether the predictions
which he made at the time had been verified, had been fulfilled,
it was not for him to decide. He thought that, instead of di-
minishing the number of Protestant bishops in Ireland, it ought
to be increased. It was unjust to make the. dissenters in Eng-
land pay tithes and church rates if disienters in Ireland were
to be exempted from those burdens. If there was to be an es-
tablished church, it was the duty of every, individual in the state,
whatever might be the doctrines which he professed, to contri-
bute to its support. The noble earl—toncluded by declaring
that he would rather sacrifice his existence than consent to a
bill which proceeded upon a principle that would entirely destroy
the Protestant established episcopal form of ecclesiastical dis-
cipline in this country. (Hear; hear.)
The Earl of LONGFORD was of opinion that the bill contained
some good originally, and it had been considerably improved in
the committee, yet still so much remained bad in principle that
he felt justified in opposing it. He thought ministers would act
wisely by withdrawing the present measure, and introducing
another hereafter, which should contain all its good and none

of its evil.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said that he would not be drawn
into a discussion on the Catholic question in consequence of
what had fallen from the noble and learned earl (Eldon). The
noble and learned earl attributed the present measure to the
act of 1829; but many more events occurred between 1829 and
1833, and even previous to 1829, which might account for the
measure. He would not, however, discuss the question at that
moment, and therefore would proceed at once to the bill before
the house. The measure had undoubtedly been materially im-
proved in committee, as his noble friend and relation (the -Earl
of Longford) had states,' in some material points; but there
still remained much objectionable matter in the bill, and much
to which he was decidedly opposed in principle. Although,
however, he disapproved of many of the provisions of the bill;
it was impossible for him, with the opinions which, he enter-
tained of the necessity that existed for some •measiire of this
description, to concur inn vote against the third reading 4 the
the bill. The rpore he considered the situation of the church
of Ireland the more he was convinced of the tietessity'of agree=
ing to the present measure in the absence of a better. For the
present, the bill would give the church breathing time, and en-
able it to continue its beneficial Jahours for some time longer.
Many persons thought that as the bill was not likely, to pro-
duce all the benefit which the noble lords opposite predicted, it
ought upon principle to be opposed, but his opinion was that
they ought to do that which was best for the church, and which
would enable it to continue in existence. (Hear, hear.)
On the question that the bill be now read a thirtlime, there
appeared—
Contents present
Proxies

70

Not contents present
Proxies

81
Majority for the third reading —s4
On our readmission into the gallery we found
Earl GREY moving a clause by way of rider to the bill, which
was agreed to, and the bill was then passed.
Adjourned to Thursday next.