The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-10-17 00:00:00

THIRD EDlTlOilsr.

Standard. office, Eleven o'clo,'k.

STILL LATER FROM OUR
DUBLIN CORRESPONDENT.

MOST IMPORTANT.
ABANDONMENT OF REPEAL FOR
FEDERALISM.

Half-past Seven o'clock.
I send you a full report of the proceedings this
day at the

LOYAL NATIONAL REPEAL

ASSOCIATION.

The avenues leading to the Corn Exchange were
densely crowded long before one o'clock. The chair
was taken by John Augustus O'Neill, Esq., of Bun-
owen Castle, county Galway, formerly M.P. for Hull,
and a captain of dragoons ; and subsequently a deputy-
lieutenant and magistrate, both of which offices he re-
signtd.

The CH AIRMAN said, that when be heard of the arrest
of O'Connell and his son, be was determined that O'Neill
should not be backward in sharing the post of honour and
of peril. (Loud cries of " Hear, bear," and cheers.)
He proceeded to explain the grounds of his conviction
that repeal was necessary for Ireland, and was discussing
the subject of federal legislation when, at one o'clock
precisely, the Liberator entered the meeting, accompanied
by his sons, the Member for Kilkenny, and Daniel
O'Connell, jun., upon which the entire assembly rose,
and the cheering was kept up for several minutes. He
(Mr. O'N.) deprecated the use of the word Saxon as a term
of reproach, and said that all that was good and favour-
able to liberty in the British constitution was handed
down from the Saxon—the evil was introduced by the
Normans (hear, hear). He would go from that chair to
the dungeon, and from the dungeon to the scaffold rather
than admit that he was deterred from seeking right and
justice by the insulting presence of troops and artillery
(great cheering). The soldier in Russia was a mere
machine—a fire-lock upon legs (laughter). The French
soldiers were armed and disci,,lined citizens. No men
knew better where the duty of the soldier ended, and that
of the citizen commenced (hear, hear). He trusted our own
soldiery would never forget the distinction (loud cheers).
We observed seated at the end of the reporter's table,
Inspector Maher, who took a note in a book when any
one of " the conspirators" rose to speak.
After subscriptions had been handed in from various

places,
dr. O'CONNELL said--He would, at the conclusion of
his remarks, move that their present chairman be re-
quested to act as chairman on Monday, at the meeting
whicn would be held in the Conciliation Hall, which
would then be ready for that purpose. (Hear, hear.)
He also promised that for the future he (Mr. O'Connell)
and he trusted the association also, would give up the
word " Sa,on," as it was calculated to give offence.—
(Hear, hear.) When they first used the term (and it
should be recollected that the only phrase ,n Irish to ex-
press the word Englishman, was " Sassenach")—Lord
Stanley was very angry, and they used it ten times more
on that account at the time. The use of it was sub-
sequently revived when they were branded as aliens in
language, in blood, and religion. by Lord Lyndhurst,
and it had been pretty freely applied ever since; but he
now promised that for the future the word should not pass
his lips, or if it inadvertently fell from him at any time,
he would immediately retract it. ( Hear, hear.) Having
denied that the people were obnoxious to the charge of
disloyalty, but, on the contrary, entitled to the greatest
praise for their strict obedience to the laws, Mr. O'Con-
nell came to the topic of a federal parliament. In the
corporation debate on repeal, he had declared his willing-
ness to accept a federal parliament, and instanced Canada,
where such a parliament had done much good. Since then
many pet sons had joined that association, who went no fur-
ther than a federal union, and he had lately received a letter
from a gentleman of high distinction in England on the
subject, in which his (Mr. O'Connell's) attention was
directed to two points, concerning which the writer be-
lieved it to be of the greatest importance that the people
of England should have correct information before they
would join generally or extensively with that association—
(hear.) The first point was, that it should he shown to
the people of England that Irishmen, in seeking for the
restoration of a parliament to their country, strove only to
procure for themselves the management of their own local
and internal affairs, leaving matters of national importance
to both countries to be legislated upon by representatives
from both countries in the imperial legislature. The
next point was that Englishmen should be satisfied that
as they co-operated with Irishmen, so Irishmen should
assist Englishmen in their struggle to obtain a full,
fair, and free representatinn—(hear, hear, hear.) He
(Mr. O'Connell) would meet such propositions in the
spirit in which they were put forward, and he told
that gentleman that, if a sufficient number of the Eng-
HAI p-ogle came forward, there would be no difficulty in
arranging repeal on the definite mentioned by him—
(hear, hear.) Let him not be taunted with shrink-
ing when he accepted these terms, for by doing so, they
not only took away all argument from their enemies, but
merely followed a course to which the association was
already pledged by the admission of the Catholic Bishop
of Killaloe, and other gentlemen, on the same terms.
(Hear, hear, hear.) The change of which they were on
the eve, must be bloodless and sinless. He had ascer-
tained, by a series of monster meetings, that the people
were peaceable and determined to obey the law. Acting
on the advice of Grattan, who declared that repeal was
impossible—the national voice was clearly ascertained to
be in favour of it. lie had ascertained that voice so far
in peace and quietness, and if the proclamation had not
been issued he should have gone on as quietly to the end.
He had been told the day before that he should be pre-
vented from addressing that meeting to-day, but he re-
plied that that could not be, because he was the auxiliary
of the government in preaching peace. If the government
were to interfere with him in that room, would it not be
said that, having failed to irritate the people by the Clon-
tarf proclamation, they wanted to do so by arresting the
man who preached peace ? Therefore he was there to
preach peace.
The Repeal rent wag then announced to be £1,232, and
the meeting was adj 'urned to Monday next, when the
Conciliation Hall will be ready for use.

THE POOR AND THE NEW POOR LAW.

(From the Times.)

The condition of the poor is a subject which, altogether
irrespectively of the Poor L,w and its collateral questions,
must ever excite the attention of thinking men. Above
all, it should be in London, Where the condition of the
poor is most strikingly appalling.
It appears from the report of the proceedings at Marl-
borough-street Police-office, in our columns of yesterday,
that there is an average number of 50 human beings, of
all ages, who huddle together in the parks every night,
having no other shelter than what is supplied by the trees
and hollows of the embankment. Of these the maj a•ity
are young girls, who have been seduced from the country
by the soldiers, and turned loose on the world in all the
destitution of friendless penury, and all the recklessness
of early vice.
This is truly horrible. Poor there must be everywhere.
Indigence will find its way and set up its hideous state in
the heart of a great and luxurious city. Amid the thou-
sand narrow lanes and by-streets of a populous metro-
polis there must always, we fear, be much suffering—
much that offends the eye—much that lurks unseen.
But that within the precincts of wealth, gaiety, and
fashion, nigh the regal grandeur of St. James's, close on
the palatial splendour of Bayswater, on the confines of
the old and the new aristocratic quarters, in a district
where the cautious refinement of modern design has ab•
stained from erecting one single tenement for poverty;
which seems, as it were, dedicated to the exclusive en-
joyments of wealth,—that there want, famine, and dis-
ease, and vice should stalk in all their kindred horrors,
consuming body by body, and soul by soul !
It is, indeed, a monstrous state of things. Enjoyment
the most absolute, that bodily ease, intellectual excite-
men, or the more innocent pleasures of sense can supply
to man's craving, brought in close contact with the most
unmitigated misery ! Wealth from its bright saloons
laughing—an insolently heedless laugh, at the unknown
wounds of want! Pleasure, cruelly but unconsciously
mocking the the pain that moans below i All contrary
things jostling one another—all contrary, 'save the vice
which tempts and the vice which is tempted !
It is a sickening theme. It brings home to the heart
the utter weakness—the utter hardness of our nature.
There is wealth, there is skill, there is art, there is
science, there is theory,—all these enough, and more than
enough, in England. Most abundant are they in the
heart of England. Yet does the life blood rush in a more
healthy stream ? Does the pulse of the nation beat with
a more generous rapture? Whom bath its wealth made
happier ? Whom has its skill taught to shun the moral
pestilence that consumes its tens of thousands? Whom
has its theory taught the high and paramount duty which
man owes to the infirmities of his brother man ?
There are men of many theories abroad. Some would
build in the human race within parallelograms, and bid
them go and practise virtue intuitively. Others would
amputate tariffs and navigation laws, crying to all, the
halt, and the blind, and the penniless, '• Go trade, and be
rich." Some there are who, believing that society is
hollow, false, and tottering, would restore long-forgotten
rules, and bring the vague and casual charity of men under
The cognizance and direction of the church. But these
men are laughed at by the age. For is not the age utili-
tarian, and therefore wise ?
But let all men, whether of theory or of practice, re-
member this—that within the most courtly precincts of
the richest city on God a earth there may he found, night
ifter night, winter after winter, women—young in years
—old in sin and suffering—outcasts from society---ItOT-
riNG FILOM FAMINE. FILTH AND DISEASE. Let them
emember this, and le,trn nut to theorlge, but to act. God
knows, there is much room for action now-a-days.

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