The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-02-24 00:00:00

LIES OF A LEAGUER

The following letter has been addressed to a London co:
temporary :

" Sir,—A part of Mr. Cobden's extraordinary speech in
the House of Commons last night (assailing a particular
agricultural case), owing to the general and interesting turn
wich the debate afterwards took, did not meet with the re-
futation which the truth demands. Mr. Cobden, choosing
to attack Mr. George Bankes, and through him the landlords
of England, challenged him to deny that the labourers upon
his property in Dorsetshire received more than Bs. per week.
He added that they were the worst fed, the worst clad, and
the most illiterate portion of the population of the whole
kingdom—that, when they had families of five children, they
lived, at the very doors of the landowners, worse than pau-
pers and felons, &c. These charges, like all other arguments
founded on personality, and professing to state undeniable
facts, were, as I see hy your report, loudly cheered ; and
Mr. G. Bankes did not, when he spoke towards the close of
the proceedings, think it worth while to exculpate himself,
or refute the assertions so boldly and yet so unjustly made.
I therefore Wave considered it a duty incumbent on me, as a
tenant holding nearly 600 acres (within two miles of his re-
sidence) under Mr. G. Bankes, and also under his father
before him, expressly to deny the truth of Mr. Cobden's
statement, and the conclusions which he drew from it.
Though some of my labourers have even 6d. per week less
than Mr. Cobden mentioned as their miserable pay, each
has, in addition, a cottage and a large garden, rent and rate
free, together with 30 perches of land ploughed and manured
for potatoes, fuel supplied and brought home to their cot-
tages without any charge, and wheat is delivered to them at
63. per bushel, whatever may be its price in the market.
Thus, independent of the other provisions for his comfort,
the higher the cost of wheat the greater are his wages—no
fluctuation affects him. It is not when at daywork only that
my labourers enjoy these privileges ; they have the very same
when at piecework, by which they are earning occasionally
nearly twice as much wages.

With regard to the bad feeding, clothing, and the ignorance
of this class, one case in point will be the best answer. I
have a labourer who has been on the farm more than twenty
years, and who has a family of nine children. With the
cottage, the ample garden for vegetables, the potato crop,
usually enough for the year's consumption, and other ad-
vantages, this individual, with honest care and industry, has
been enabled to live in perfect comfort and bring up his
children in respectability and virtue. He has always his
pig in the stye for home supply, and can dispose of garden
produce so as to bring in some funds for clothing, He has
thus placed his two eldest daughters in excellent service,
and want of no kind has been felt by these pitiable, worse
off that ' paupers or felons' of Dlr. Cobden's manufacturing
imagination.

"Now, let Mr. Cobden compare the condition of his
' hands' with that of my hands, and ace how far his 12s. per
week contributes to their independence and happiness ? Or,
why did he himself desert the plough of his agricultural family
in Sussex, to become, first, a commercial traveller, and thence
a manufacturer, climbing thereby to great opulence and a seat
in the legislature? The poor ' unprotected' trader has done
well for himself at least, even under the ruinous operation
of the corn-laws--would I could say as by the soil. And,
having now? sir, done my endeavour to set the assertions of
this M.P. in their true light, by direct individual evidence,
I leave the main quest'ons to be discussed by those more
competent to the endless task, and am, sir, your obedient
servant,

"THOMAS HUNT
" 224, Regent-street. and Godlingstone Farm,
near Swanage, Dorsetshire, Feb. 18."

ARE PAPISTS CATHOLICS?

The following is the substance of two letters which have
appeared in the Derbysgire Courier, and which were occa-
sioned by the correspondence of Mr. Wilkinson and Mr.
Birkett, to which we gave publicity a short time since :
" Is the Church of this country the only one that has had
the hardihood to disconnect itself with Rome?
It is worth while, incidentally, and as illustrative of the
length to which the Church of Rome carries her claim of ex-
clusive Catholicity, to observe that the Eastern or Greek
Church, equalling in its extent pretty nearly the whole of
western Christendom, and of which it may suffice, without
winuter definition of its boundaries, to say that it includes
more than all Russia, the Eastern Church, I say, subsisting
in vast power and pre-eminence under the government of an
episcopacy as apostolically derived as that of Rome, yet main-
tains complete and total independence of the Papacy.
And here permit me to ask whence our own fellow coun-
trymen of the Roman Catholic persuasion deduce their rise,
and what it was that first gave birth to their detachment of
themselves from us, and pretension to the name that they
assume ? Was it the Reformation ? Certainly not—at least,
not in the sense which is intended to be inferred, when we
are told so. The Reformation was over—it was done,
achieved, and at an end. And the Reformation left, at its
conclusion, all the people subject to the same pastors, at-
tending the same Churches, and the same services hi them
that we now have, and receiving the same sacraments. Down
to the 11th year of the reign of Queen Elizabeth, there were
not in the country two separate worships—two communions.
It is an absolute fact that ten years of Elizabeth passed by
and saw no schism. The 11th brought with it a Bull from
Pope Pius V. deposing (!) the Queen. And this Bull was
made to furnish the pretext sought by the Papacy for dis-
persing Popish emissaries over the country, through whose
means and agency to withdraw the people from their obedi-
ence to their legitimate pastors. Of the party thus disrepu-
tably seduced into a secession from our communion, hisllo-
liness then perpetuated the dismemberment by recognising
them as a Church, commissioning them a priesthood, and
conferring on them the title of " Catholic," which he yet re-
fuses to concede to the British and Eastern branches of the
Church of Christ.

" In reference to the proper application of this title, I

now quote the authority of one whose weight as a theologian
justly entitles him to rank among the first divinity writers of
our day, and perhaps of any day .
" ' As to those separatists who obey the Roman Pontiff,
every one of sufficient information recognises them only
under their proper appellations of Papists or Romanists, and
would not profane the name of Catholic by conferring it on
them. To do so knowingly would indeed come under the
condemnation of them ' that call evil good and good evil.'
The title of Catholic is never conceded by the British or
Oriental Churches to any schism, which the Roman Pontiff
has excited among the subjects of their jurisdiction.'
" It must be the duty of every Catholic, when placed by
circumstances beyond the reach of communion with the
church of his own country, to communicate with that branch
of the true Catholic Church which be finds subsisting where-
soever he may, for the time, be resident. For instance, an
English Catholic, in Russia, communicates with the Eastern
Church ; and therefore why not, in Italy, with the Roman ?
For if the Roman be as truly a branch of the Church-Catholic
as the Eastern, must not this be equally his duty? Without
question, it is his duty to feel and to profess a willingness to
communicate as well with the Roman as the Eastern. But
suppose the Roman Church herself forbids this—that is to
say, exacts terms and conditions of communion which make
it impossible—how then ?
" Now, the fact is, that none can communicate with the
Church of Rome who withhold their assent from the creed
of Pope Pius IV, and that creed is proposed to us `as
heretics;' and designed to exact from us the condemnation

of our own branch of the Catholic Church; imposing an
oath of obedience to the Pope, and so many things besides,
as make subscription to it quite impossible consistently with
the commonest regard to truth and Scripture, and the guilt
of conforming much greater than that of receding from her
communion. Thus the Romanists themselves create the
obstacle to our entering into their communion as a branch of
the Church-Catholic; and thence the necessity of our send-
ing clergy to those parts of the continent under the Popedom
resorted to by British Catholics, who, if we were not to do
this, would be without Christian ordinances."

ATROCIOUS CASE OF STAI3BING.—On Monday afternoon
week as two poor women, sisters, named Elizabeth Peen and
Sarah Evans, were passing through a field near Springhead,
Southfleet, with a little girl, they were called after by some
women who were cutting turnip greens; one word produced
another until all the women who were at work in the field
came up to the path and joined in assailing Mrs. Peen and
her sister. The working women were ten or eleven in num-
ber, and one of them, named Mary Davidson. knocked down
Mrs. Peen, while Sydia Sazby was engaged in fighting Sarah
Evans. One of the turnip-top women then cried out "get
your knife," on which Mary Davidson ran to her dinner
basket by the side of the waggon and got a small table knife,
and putting the blade up, her sleeve returned to the fray, and
immediately, with a threat, rushed at Mrs. Peen and stabbed
her in the neck a slight wound, which she followed up by
jobbing the knife at her and cutting the leaders asunder of
her right haud. It appears that the women in the field began
Ely accusing Mrs. Peen and her sister of an intention to steal
the turnip-tops. The above is the substance of the evidence
taken before the county justices on Wednesday, at Rochester,
after Mary Davidson bad been apprehended, and upon wbicb
she was fully committed for trial at the assizes.--Maidstone

Journal.

ABSTRACT OF THE ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS
BILL.

The purport of the present bill is to carry into effect
certain of the recommendations, in a modified form, pro-
posed by the report of the commission formed in the year
1829, for the purpose of inquiring into the practice and
jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical courts of England and \Vales,
in order to alter and amendt in various necesmt y shapes, the
lags and jurisdictions at present existing in each, The re-

port, upon winch the present out grounds its tnoaffications,
was completed in 1832. Agreeably with the propositions of
the report, which had for its chief motive the placing of all
minor ecclesiastical jurisdictions, and " the whole contentious
ecclesiastical jurisdiction," cornponently under the control
of the bishop of the diocese, in whose locality it might be
situated, the present bill proposes the following succedaneum,
in the shape of an entirely new court, with a judge, officers,
laws, and regulations, in way and manner as under:—

olition

THE COURT OF ARcia.s.—Attendant upon the
of ail ecclesiastical courts of jurisdiction, except certain

archiepiscopal and episcopal courts, a new court is to be
formed, to be entitled " Her Majesty's Court of Arches" (4.)
The authority of this court is intended to engross the " whole
of the jurisdiction in England and Wales in granting probate
and administrations, and also the whole of the original con-
tentious ecclesiastical jurisdictions, civil and criminial, here-
tofore exercised in any court or courts of England and
'Wales" (5.) Except-
1. The jurisdiction in matters ecclesiastical, which by any
law or statute now in force belongs to and is exeercised by
any justice or justices of the peace.
2. Except also the jurisdiction to be exercised under the
said act for the better enforcing of church discipline.
3. Except also the jurisdiction under divers acts of parlia-
ment respecting the remedies of and other matters of order-
ing the clergy.
4. Except also, as in the act is otherwise provided, such
jurisdiction.as shall exclusively belong to and exercised by
the Arches' Court in London, that continuing its probatory
and administrative powers, with others affecting registry
affairs, &c., as beforetime.
JUDGE OF THE NEW COURT.—One judge is proposed to
be appointed who will be called the " Dean of the Arches."
His qualification to be, membership of the Established
Church, and an advocate of the City Court of Arches of at
least ten years standing (6.) The salary of this ecclesiasti-
cal officer is to be £4,500 per annum (20), with right to a re-
tiring annuity of £2,500 per annum, provided his time of
service for the court shall have made up the period of fifteen
years. The form of oath (7), fabrication of §pecial seals (8),
and incapability of a judge so appointed to serve in parlia-
ment (10) are severally recited. The Judge of the Admiralty
is empowered to assist the new judge in the discharge of his
office as a locum tenens, with a clerk engaged at £l2O per
year. The surrogates of the Arches' Court of Canterbury
are to be surrogates of the New Court, and the judge is in-
vested with authority to create surrogates as shall be ne-

cessary.
ADVOCATES OF THE COURT.—The Advocates to be en-
titled to practise in the new Court, such as are now prac-
tising in the Arches' Court of Canterbury, and all Fellows
of the Court of Arches may be Fellows of the Court of
Advocates (24); also that all proctors and notaries in the
former Court, (25,) with their articled clerks, shall have the
same license, and also that all proctors and notaries of other
the Ecclesiastical Courts in England and Wales, who were
in January, 1843, acting:in such capacities, shall, within one
year after the passing of the Act, be permitted to act in their
several legitimate capacities in the new Court.
PROCESSES OF COURT.—Clauses 28 to 47 refer to the
processes of the new Court, relative to fees, the reception of
evidence, taxation of bills, trials of issues, &c., differing, ap-
parently, in no respect from the ordinary routine.
RESTRICTIONS ON THE COURT.—No sentence of excom-
munication, or any species of spiritual censure, or order,
conveyable on such account to the Court of Chancery for is-
sue of a writ of contumacy, shall be permitted among the
powers of the Court of Arches, (48,) except in such cases as
are enumerated specially in clauses 50 and 51. The Court,
however, shall have the power of attachment, as exercised by
the Court of Admiralty (49.)
APPEALS, WILLS, REGISTRATIONS.—AppeaIs upon any
decree or sentence of the Court may be made to her Majesty
in Council : all wills are to be provable in the same manner
as heretofore, and diocesan registries and officers are to be-
come branch registries and officers of the Court of Arches for
probates and administrations, under the limited amount of
£3OO k 64.)
Til2 rules for the governance of sequestrations are laid
down in the series of clauses extending from 88 to 98.
PUNISHMENTS, &c.—The punishment for perjury shall be
those ordinarily inflicted for the crime, and the corruptly
making of or subscribing to any declaration be deemed a mis-
demeanour, and punishable as such (46.)
The Court also, while it may enforce separation in cases
of incest (87,) shall have no influence as regards punition in
j
matters of the original ecclesiastical jurisdiction respecting
cases of simony, schism, heresy, blasphemy, perjury,. adul-
tery, fornication, drunkenness, or other evil living, or vio-
lence by smiting committed in the church or church-yard.
Compensation to be made to certain persons whose offices
are abolished or affected, are made subject of settlement as
regards their adjustment in clause 126. The ensuing clause
provides for the abatement of that compensation sum, if the
guarantee enter into enjoyment of any new office in the Court
of Arches or other Ecclesiastical Court.
The schedules appended to the Act exhibit the officers
enumerated in a variety of clauses, upon their
specific ap-
pointments, and present a view of the salaries, intended to
be granted individually, and of the agregate expenses of the
new establishment. They are as under :
SALARIES TO THE JUDGES AND REGISTRARS OF THE
ARCHBISHOPS'COURTS TO BE RETAINED.—Judge of the
Court of the Archbishop of Canterbury and of his Vicar
General, £1,200 ; his Registar, £450 ; Judge of the Court
of the Master of Faculties, of the Archbishop of Canterbury
in London, £500; his registrar, £420; Judge of the Court
of the Archbishop of York and of his Vicar General, con-
solidated with the Consistory Court at York, £1,000; Re-
gistrar, £BOO. These form a combined sum of £4,370.
REGISTRARS AND OTHER OFFICERS.—Three registrars.
£1,400 each, and a fourth, if appointed. £l,OOO. Seven
principal clerks, at from £4OO to £6OO. Sealers, record-
keepers, and other clerks, at salaries from £4OO down to
£l2O each. The whole expences of this department
we find upon calculating the sums set down, amounts to
£11,530.
The cost of the new establishment, therefore, including
the Dean's salary of £4,500, exhibits an estimate, irrespec-
tive of retiring salaries, amounting to £20,400 annually.

UNIVERSITY OF OxFoßD.—Several exhibitions and scho-
larships have lately become vacant in this university. Two
scholarships at Corpus Christi College, open to natives of
the dioceses of Bath and Wells, and Exeter respectively, will
be filled up on Friday, March 3. Candidate must be under
19 years of age. On the 15th of March an exhibitioner will
be elected in Worcester College, open to natives of York-
shire. On the same day there will be an election of a Bible
clerk in the same college. At Queen's College, four exhi-
bitions are vacant, two for natives of Wiltshire, Cheshire,
and Lancashire, and two for natives of Hampshire. The
elections will take place March 16. At Wadham College a
Bible clerkship is vacant, the election for which will take
place March 16.
RELIGIOUS CREDULITY.—The following is given gravely
by the Gazette du Simplon:—" All religious persons will re•
joice at the great and happy news that we have to announce,
and which reaches us at the same time from different sources.
According to information from the Apostolic Vicar of China,
a great multitude of Christians and Pagans of that nation
.have seen in the air, when all was calm, the image of Jesus
Christ on the cross. If the emperor, being resolved to ern_
brace the catholic faith, has, as it is said, sent for mission_
aries from the Sovereign Pontiff, results of great importance
may be expected, and the conversion of this kingdom, con-
taining at least 300,000,000 inhabitants, be looked on as
accomplish..d."
4, THE WORKING CLERGY." —An ecclesiastical paper
gives an account of the stipends, &c., of the curates of the
Established Church. It states that of these curates there
are 3088 who are so to non-resident incumbents, and 1720 to
resident incumbents. Of the 3088 curates who are soxtsoonon-
resident incumbents, 295 receive incom;eusn3d7u9enrduexnrdle2ro
190 under £' 126501
£120; 256
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40 who receive no stipend at all ; and 27 • misce laneous. Next
comes the case of the 1172 curates who are so to resident in-
cumbents. Of these 128 receive stipends under
annum ,•222 under £6O ; 127 under £7O ; 142 under £4A perBo ;
251 under £9O; 62 under £100; 15 under
120; 99 under
£l3O ; 19 under 140; 13 under £l5O ; 520 under
from £l6O to under £310; five each Sunday . £l6O ;27
service of 205.,
215.. 425. ; 11 who receive the pew rents ; three
whole income of the living; 118 who have who take the
no stipend : and
20 miscellaneous. An examination of
give a result of from £BO to £lOO a-y these statistics will
salaries of curates. ear as the average

ccesssooFrs,ST. ASAPI AopN,DwßANGolt.—ln almos
anedveStroiyshstipic)seech and every article which I have read upon thit
bcjheeutrclhhaavned found it represented that it was intended to
carry off the surplus revenues arising from the union of the
two sees, to endow the new bishopric of Manchester ; and it
has consequently been strongly urged that there was gross
injustice in taking the ecclesiastical revenues arising in a poor
district like Wales, to endow a bishopric in the great and
wealthy town of Manchester. And admitting the premises,
I certainly should not attempt to deny the conclusion; but
the assertion is altogether unfounded. The bishop is to go
to Manchester, but not a shilling of the revenues. The
scheme which, in pursuance of the act of 7th Will. 4, c. 77,
was submitted by the ecclesiastical commissioners to her
Majesty, and was confirmed by her Majesty in council, on
the 7th of September, 1838, and thereby became law, as in
these terms :—After proposing that when either of the sees
of St. Asaph and Bangor shall become vacant, the bishop
who shall succeed thereto shall take the same subject to the
conditions thereinafter contained; and that when the other
of the said sees shall become vacant, the said sees shall be
united ; and that the bishop who shall be then in possession
of the said see which shall have first become vacant shall be-
come the bishop of the united see, and possessed of all the
no't htn°iiceunat th Ba a k
property of both the sees, it proceeds thus :—" And we fur-
ther recommend and propose that, for the purposes of the
said act, and so as to leave to the Bishop of St. Asaph and
Bangor the average annual income of £5200, as near as may
be, the said bishop and his successors shall pay, to our
credit, into the Bank of England, to an account, 11%
' Account with the Ecclesiastical Commissioners for
eEugai
Eng-
land,' the fixed annual sum of £4750 in every year, by
5 o f t.shthe
time
being! to
ahatsaltafh-foyereeeansradlyidopayments, the first of such payments-t°
in order to raise the average annual Taco
the sum of £4500,
St. David's, for the time being,
1 be paid by us to the
as near as may be, there
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yevreprsaegemes,annua
bishop, who, u
shall succeed' thereto, daona
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saidagfs shall
,
mentation of the incomes o
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ly towards the aug
first annual sum of £l6OO,
respective the that in
ay ents in every year ;
from time to to time be bteheandfirst
England, monies
a. r tor 0 f
.o standingutt e Lopfs suchayhaltlsviosoindsuuatorg betucaec
account
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the largerfseees
order to raise .
to the bishop who, upon
Llandaff, for
bishop
be paid by us
be there shall
see, shall succeed thereto,
as may , of the same
andthleinscuommeooff£l2eooß,iashsonpeaorf
by equal half-year
de at the end of six calendar
ball-yearly PaY
months
tively."
from the day
The
• of the sees of St.
the first
.avoideeamnstchemeneatlisal
union.
collegiate church of such avoidance in each case respec-
es on to provide that on the
Bangor taking effect, the
scheme
then
nrsgot an!: ual sum of f.,3150, by equal
Asaph and.
of Manches . _
tearho shall be endowed with an
bshahll be constituted a caihe_
hose diocese shall
of Lancaster, except the deanery
to be ma .
consist
and Carmel!, and w
of Furness
£4500, by the transfer of lands or tithes
annual income of
or sees, or partly by such transfer, and
from some seeotherrual
payment out of any monies in the hands
partly by an annual drsaul the seat of
ners applicable to such purpose. Thus it
of the coma:now
whole of the surplus revenues from the union
of the whole county
appears that the
of
of South Wales, so as to raise the incomes of
the two sees
the two sees ,f North Wales have been divided between
of the latter sees to adequate amounts. Really before gen-
tlemen meet together,
as at Oswestry, to petition against the
.1 Impoverishing .
• of the church in North Wales by transferring
a large
portion of its revenues to a distant and wealthy part
of the kingdom," it would be well if they would take Ilie
trouble to read the propositions againkt4w4/011.11hey• 108410
-c, petition.—Pamphletjust published : ' _ '_' ut