The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-09-03 00:00:00

S(ipt. 3,1844.

TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

On

Co •
Wednesday last a pure
oftk. o,f
inththe
cToonwsii!
amed. was held, for the osa •in,
eration_ the proceedings of the Dock Committee for
f
cks
ta nu works' There was a very full attendance
etnhers, and the Mayor took the chair.
nusieissox's STATUE.
atuietla
tkerAfirAoYD3o
NIL,'
rb.esfoarne thebac immediate. business, submitted
d h respecting this piece of sta-
y'
tir • ' •
r3ri by Alr. Gibson. It was to the effect that the statue
b Ivi rived three weeks ago, presented to the corporation,
dome r.s. Huskisson, who wished. it to be placed under the
t
a eln the Long-room, a site which the artist did no
a-nondsi.dti,e the.most7 eligibl, the light not being appropriate ;
huaal•i•e writer suggested that another position in the
taring, selected • Ma. Gibson, should be proposed by memorial to the Lords of the Treasury, whose leave, it
altars, is necessary.
et.ilr• North and Mr. Aspinall considered St. George's
ma..:ornote suitable, and it was finally resolved thit the
ti.:l3_r should wrie to Mrs. Huskisson, acknowledging
pre 'eceiPt of the statue, sugs,,esting to her the most ap-
°red site and making an early report to the council on
the silt,
hTIIE NEW NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN DDC.KS.
.1..T--e Proceedings of the Dock Committee relative to the
ra4ns of the new docks and works, north and south, au-
.utrised by the act of this session, having been r d
et-. BRAMLEY-MGORE rose and said that in a'sokoineg_
a council to confirm these proceedings, it would b
ea,ess,aY to trespass on their attention for a few moments,
ml.to the view of showinag the difference between the 1
entally brought before them and the houbses of aPrlia-
adopPted in
t'eePti and the plans now recommended to
~ ir stead. The original plans, so far as he was indi.
But the
plans concerned, never had his approbation.
hie now submitted, and the general principerof
owghi.coh. he cordially approved, bad the advantage of_ affodi i
only occupy
cti;eeatiasiltitwater space, while the doocoktsemwpo_ would
ruated in the ori-
ginal. }?esrPtahee of ground ast was
they weree indebted to the genius
and untirin
a e new
plans
thet 'Dock Surveyor, whose atten-
rtiZatna uegvoeffteltsesos to the interests of the dock estate
but it well known to render it necessary to say more ;
i.,lans, Was to him they were indebted for the excellent
:: on g im in whc h been made at
the suggestionreat v
of his frimendent on hisi lefth,a.l Mr. Aikin. It
tai- - 2hl" - be necessary just to state what the original and the
Present plans gave to the public in the shape of accommo-
dation. The arand total afforded by the original scheme,
Which was to run parallel with the river, amounted to 34
acres only; the new scheme, including the basin, the
coasting dock, and the passages, presented no less a quan-
tity than 63 acres. This scheme occupied the same space
of ground as the former, so that the northern docks,
coupled with the southern, the plan of which remained for
the present as it had come before the council and received
their sanction, would make a grand total of dock accom-
modation
for
the town of 195 acres 3731 yards, a (Tally
apace--an actual working quay space of rather mcp-et )3a4
10 miles, and a grand total altogether of 15 miles 7
lards.
not to be
This was an amount of accommodation
fonds This in any other town in the world, far exceeding that
ohruttbeea:aetropolis. (Ilear.) The original plans ran north
and south ; those now proposed ran east and west • and
of having one inconvenient dock, as at first' re-
partl *---h be fully completed before and
part e.r . , wale. must
h .it could be rendered available, they should now
the
Yetaaeheairtittes of docks, several acres each in extent, and.tb
besides have the communication opened with
self-an a and Liverpool Canal. The advantages were so
enntirreut tLat
he should not occupy the time of the
that thetni.dwellig on the subject. He had already said
lyb"-411aPt-rha "the new works at the north remained astit
1-reeeetled --ere was no change in that; but, before he
estin, further, he would endeavour to answer some
bat sins '''' Wbieh mi ht be asked in the course of the de-
They" to the
their, authogrit -of the council to alter the plans.
-11:1'e at liberty, without3' going to parliament, to vary
dodnaB alit any Manner or shape. They might make
I?leased, -001011 g or square, or in any other manper they
8.4 BOIT) spv long as they trenched not on private interests
a..--red thgat-tehr new space ; and here it was to be remem-
Wa Woe ey were only about to occupy the same ground
lions inally intended, and that the proposed altera-
and 1.,;,...1 not affect the communication with the Leeds
they ~;*OOl Canal. lie knew it had been observed that
,Isreat-aeare going on too great a scale, and affording too
rar froaa extent of accoodation to the town. But, s
the net this being thencee he was satisfied that, beforedock
wouldwb works should have been completed,
"gilt t e fullY in use. (Hear.) He thought. every
youncil
the council
it had
ee4
tha be under no alarm on this point.
the old e "Preach of the council, the dock committee, Ways i morPoration that the supply of dock space
at-
gittweea,saan.d.
?ably the of '
the demands of trade. This was so p I
It; tow ! /act that it was unnecessary to say more. about
It°rltir, 'f an), one would take the trouble to exammeldthbee
fullyfu e-ouo! the docks for the last few years, they would
wn vinced that this was the fact, and that the increase
1:),f an for the last_ -ear required the accommodation
o
/87,000 er Prince's Dock for that increase amounted
Won lit 24,t°18, while the working of the Prince's was only
"°a,id -we
,l'uu° ton He th refore hoped that the reproach
,"ale a,„-
old
aw, with ,e and that they were on such a
b-°nltuati-2,tud whraAlvwl supersede the necessity of dock ac-
;Las asiorZ" to be- sought elsewhere. (Hear.) There
."4t the one advantage the new plans, and that. was,
Plans, - "l'e dock ---e to be made by the original
was could
o. : proposed .
juintog seoo7:ll4loehreadaduit iclnebrought into action until he whole
atihaocsceontootowopdraotipoons,ed , besides afro rd .
could be brought
4nderooen.ti°4 in a very short space of time. They were
t1,1),t1 Live44:ot. to have the communication with the Leeds
saj,shouid . i canal open in three years. He thought
and br_econiplish it in two ; one of the new docks
eaeh‘ciaa,4,o76ht into operation about the sabreetip
pro dock woillge attending the works wouldt
that
aliss, thatel
r°44eiti' eirevpbe, completed in itself, anddaohd th
'could be
TPedir,elltittabyfoirkg,ock would be . perfect,
e withoutua n y
obstacle or
sgo"..vaentage.
as ernt ilunkeeowndaryt.ion
T wld be a very great
Wave
than it W la
e was a°llC`'. render the docks available so much
while
..e_n brcuoit !cleated. The original plan couldeara
coma.' °Leoriln; t into operation in less than fi
The4"nleation;.° the new, they should have vtheyclock
rs
cototlew dockscanal in operation in twoeta
at.
2 ' affOrd nae ould, moreover, be the only dockst h
ainerl,t in cout__' clotriodation to the class of ships a prte-
u reets in vv°7 ot construction as they would have ga es
nth . sa.
positiori of ine e . vessel i the PeoPle
belie, n Could not t
~ Nilicil' would 'not then be in the
° Bristol, who, after having got a
,w_o ed, the
ow
..._o Id have
.nerg:toilfer out again—(a laugh)—and,.he
roil • ~ rat vessel (the Great Britain)
cotrld a g her to Liverpool, because in no other
Anoth she receive the necessary accommodation.
be th er great ad„
had
bat they
would
i)letafe atitenelog the new docksa wouldt
oat an they
that ettse iraponektocosmiltmuNt.ec(wHeereria)yillig
Plied t enormous sum of money, and they were often ap-
th,t,
such 0 to stay their hands, and not to spend their money
e a reckless manner. He confessed there was no.
di, ghe looked upon with so little concern as the expen-
'are in the present instance ; foritreally was nothing
at
b,_all. They were about to obtain accommodation for the
„Istle of the port to the extent of 63 acres at the north,
01"0,11.5 acres at the south, for one million. and a half of
4tetiv- This was nothing compared with other places.
c%.,. ern look for a moment at the London docks, which
tent four millions of money, and let them contrast the ex-
Lorkllrf, 'econtroodation obtained for that four millions in
tiaeenztwilrieoirrdeanhiootit to g
Aliey'n with what was going to be given in Liverpool.
ive more than double the amount. of
n afforded in London for less than a million
atilt ~,,a, because this increased accommodation would
glea-,;Ts,e_ within the estimates laid before parliament.
;tons, ,
comfy The London docks, which cost four
.mtil,-
*Qivdeeraeed a,
404Ved accommodation to the extent o.ftelnorony
.-
and
oni model td'oet. Katherine's docks, which xs4eBi,
acres "'3l afforded for the kingdom, cost £2, -,000,
a,srd• In Live accommodation to the extent of twelve
and 3 Of savant rPool there were about to be given up-
thru'when the Y acres for less than a million and a half;
spb nth the docksld at the amount of tonnage going
theered in a of Liverpool and London, the matter wereass,,t Year rnore stng point of view. For, during
niodaielatornioZtarlY. four times the amount of tonnage It had h nt the ed.ln Liverpool more than were accom-
Proved een the t:otire docks of London. (Hear, hear.)
the, ~,,-. w,orki 'b'on to say a great deal about the im-
the' "night ben._v th
Of
-e Liverpool Docks. He admitted
nlittsearne time
very
rfi
ti Ueb improved in this respect,
whene'ho hadua-ce ow'ht- tbe done the Dock Corotan • `lleY 80 oo he ° might have been,
. Palled f light to been met as they.
an .__ or an
eaten facilitate their working. They had
whierverurnellt,sion of the hours of landing-waiters,
Alh ' would t, "ad r the application on grounds
_ .ert b_ . ot latic, excised
to the
,nity, t_ ocks ,havens st, So far as they applied . ,
wsrehe" the tevee one of the grounds was, the in.e-
the Alhtlaes from :rile oil account of the distance of the
Or tonn:rt flocs. e„,docks, and this would not apply to
arid Long,e which
,___lsetit when they compared the quantity
not s 0 Op, it tvZsi d through the docks of Liverpool
and a halt", as was „,,,,, be
,seen that the working here was
P°ol la . tif ton '-"erallY represented,for two millions
dock st Year. ,tiara Passed
sof L 0,,, and no,_ . through the docks of Liver-
be -
Uiodated at teoo (111aquae 700,000 tons through the
12: occupied "we, extre,o.7 r.) Steamers would be accom-
-1 fact the s b. rth tha c north, and the other docks would
not trespass further
ao
well
Weaned.ttaid nthtaegestvearrei; iletl'cgeefPr°t4'b
u jeet w 7 gerieral trade of the port ; should in
Understood that he t
riell,Y, to allude to the cos he t 'Punnet., not 'aYing the new plans. As it had
Tagnitude of
raw a..e , thei9rnlY in th out Money in a most extrava-
coute,e Purchase of land, but in the
other (it ,ntion to the P f., .. .-"Plated M t L
sCre °C/CS. The
- --Si. of th ~.
.-orKs, ...e would just
tlo'nlolosi, "e works ot-,,'e rrince's, and some of the
only °° Per ae °f the landLne Prince's cost £32,046 per
:e1e.,::e(112kee!,22.:
tire "" Per '°'B per
iri:eo,ws the' and inclusive of the land,
,Pro Posed north works would
andcao,” oft whichacre,w kthe parliamentary was
_ dos considerably less than_halt
y on, uock that was so much admired,
telltin, a
rtitieh
is
equal
to:a:tle.beriononcie o f the
thellp`us ho,f. the l't()',cve,..ver
and
vaec dock .1• They wets greatest orna-
neF;,tohne reafolraer,g
et or
sale, of 4;41 to thi less cost • est trey
s fact, in
_, , dit was necessary to draw at-
e"veß n the Part "rd
_ er to show that the expenditure
Dubliant as
was or the Dock Committee was not so
Thzlia2f,o,46 far
slit stoodga,sl4l37Bsinnprptobseediteawnddporcokpaa.gaagteadintsot
e alg" "i Prince's. (Ilear, hear.) The Victoria,
'he "'at ' Naterlo
le4lloedy-4co:44about°,ta)nailleaxrpeenticededdocolios etobset enxeawctlwyodrokus-.
the gcon
ootio9o3o:ber afford and the proposed accom-
iwtecwado.freedr floor IxlsfertvhaattioaamzunTth. On
e
:I's rtuoettiq lane he
frvocks woneir,Point.
6 ova the
~m he very
little
said that the utility of the new
-red 41, centre of b 1
I,he :Ind a half ange;
e on account of their distance
toile, tit
the si,. usiness. But it should be remem-
three of the Ex vvh est India Docks in London were three
thre j re
rnm
no
such a.nlitptaanteeti:
that the East India Docks were
the public
Tribeevecrxtcrocrompelapinoendlt.
'r trh.were
oaly ti,narters r
,barters ball the ost dock would not be quite a mile and
isEtaxocchea nogf et,
ha: East India,
Docks