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parties whoia the acts of the government were most likely to
injure they were the very parties best entitled to protection.
The SOLICITOIL-GNNEILAL was decidedly of-opinion that
this was a case in which the government could not interfere.
He contended that the parties hau not an equitable clain,
upon the country for compensation.
Mr. HUTT supported the motion of Mr. Hawes, and said
a great portion of the money had been squandered in build-
ing palaces.
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Mr. AGLIONBY also supported the motion.
Colonel Stn•raoar said the government should be just
before it was generous, and instead of spending money on
pictures, statues, &c., they should apply it to the payment of
just claims like the present.
On a division the motion was defeated by a majority of 57
to 42
IVI

S. CRAWFORD then rose to move for leave to bring in
a bill to repeal the act of the Ist year of Ceo. 1, statute 2,
c. 35. for extending the duration of parliament to seven years.
The hon. gentleman said he would he content to accept, at

present, the smallest concession, and would, therefore, ask for
triennial parliaments only, though he was himself it, favour
of annual parliaments.

Dr. Borttrio seconded the motion

Sir J. GRAHAM said the motion was neither wise, politic,
nor convenient, and was an abandonment of the principles
laid down by the Reform Bill, by which the duration of Par-
liament was retained as a balance to the democratic power
which was established by the provisions of that bill. He
should oppose the motion, and would, therefore, move, as an
amendment, the previous question.
The gallery was cleared for a division, when the motion
was defeated by a majority of 46 to 23.
Captain BERKELEY then drew the attention of the house
to the inexpediency and danger of employing the old class of
10-gun brigs under commanders, and re-establishing them as
sloops-of-war in her Majesty's navy. These 10-gun brigs,
which were called sailing coffins" in the navy, were wholly
unfit for the service to which they were about to be applied,
and were condemned by the surveyors of the Navy Board.
They were a class of vessels neither capable of sailing, fight-
ing, or swimming, and yet such were the vessels they were
about to place in competition with American vessels on the
coast of Africa. The American vessels would run these gun-
brigs out of sight, leaving nothing but mortification to be
endured by all on beard them. Formerly, when a naval
officer obtained promotion, his joy was always enhanced if it
happened to be impossible that he could -be appointed to
those " floating coffins." Of 22 vessels which were lost in a
given period, no less than one-half were 10-gun brigs, six
were vesaels of a smaller class, and out of the remaining five
two went on shore, only three foundering at sea, while of the
"sailing: coffins" not one went on shore—all went down
at sea, and all hands perished. With such a fact before them
he would ask if they would perservere in the employment of
such vessels. The gallant captain concluded by moving a
resolution to the effect that the house viewed with apprehen-
sion the employment of these vessels after the experience
which had been had of their dangerous construction.

Captain PECHSLL seconded die motion.
Captain GORDON did not think this class of vessels so very
bad as was supposed, and thought the Admiralty would not
be justified in declining to use them. The coast of Africa,
he thought, best adapted for their capabilities, as calms and
light breezes usually prevailed there.
Mr. S. HF.RDELLT said that a new class of gun brigs was
being introduced into the service, superseding the old vessel,
not because of their being dangerous, but because of their
bad sailing qualities. He hoped the house would not, there-
fore, confirm an abstract proposition founded on a miscon-
ception, and which would scarcely he doing justice to the
Admiralty, to whom such details were necessarily entrusted.

Sir C. NAPIEEt was of opinion that our deficiency in naval
architecture and the mismanagement of our naval service,
was to be chiefly attributed to the constitution of the Admi-
ralty Board, which was half a century behind the rest of the
world.

After some further discussion the motion was negatived
by a majority of 75 to 41.
Lord CLEMENTS moved for a return of the correspondence
connected with the disbanding of the yeomanry corps of Ire-
land.

Sir V. BLAKE seconded the motion, which was opposed by
Lord ELIOT, who contended that it would be extremely
inconvenient to produce the correspondence between one de-
partment of the government and the other. He bad no ob-
jection to the production of all the orders for the disband-
me* of those corps. . . .

Cord CLEMENT'S ticcepted the return, as suggested, and it
was accordingly ordered.

The report the Princess Augusta's Annuity Bill was
then brought up, and the house soon after adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-WEDNESDAY

The Princess Augusta's Annuity Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave notice that
on Friday next he would move for a committee of the whole
house upon the Excise Acts (Ireland). lie said that there
could no longer be any doubt but that the additional Is.
duty on Irish spirits had led to an increase in smuggling,
and he should propose on Friday that it should be with-
drawn.

Mr. G. W. Woon moved the second reading of the Scien-
tific Societies Bill, for the purpose of relieving from local
and general taxation the buildings used by such societies for
their collections of books, statues, preparations, &c.
Lord SANDON seconded the motion, which was agreed to.
The house then went into committee on the Coroners Bill
pro forma, for the purpose of making some amendments,
after which it was arranged that the bill as amended should
be printed and re-committed that day fortnight.
Lord WORSLEY moved the second reading of the Com-
mons Enclosure bill (No. 2).
Colonel SIBTHORP said it was impossible that such an im-
portant measure could be properly considered during the
present session, containing as it did no less than 137 clauses.
He therefore moved that it should be read a second time that
day six months.

Mr. S. \%on'rr.►;v supported the propriety of postponing
the hill until nest session.

Lord WORALEY said he thought the measure too import-
ant to allow him to assent to its postponement. Ile believed
there were over two millions of acres of land in this country
which might be redeemed and enclosed at an expense of
about £l2 an acre, to the great advantage of the poor and
labouring classes of the community. At present parties
were deterred from enclosing by the great expense of enclo-
sure acts. He contemplated to carry his measure into ope-
ration by the aid of the tithe commissioners, who upon the
application of two-thirds of the interested parties should send
assistant commissioners to examine and report on the circum-
stances. The commissioners should make a report twice a
year to the Home Office, and the House of Commons should
have the power of stopping any enclosure if one-fourth of the
interested parties should oppose it. Under the present sys-
tem the expense of enclosure acts amounted to from £4OO to
£6OO, while under the operation of this bill the expense
would not exceed £4O. lie felt satisfied that his bill would
confer great benefit on the agricultural interests, and on the
country generally also.

Mr. FERRAND opposed the bill on the ground that it would
deprive the poor of England for ever of their rights of com-
monage. He felt satisfied, however, that some measure
should be adopted for the purpose of reclaiming the waste
lands of England. The measures of Sir R. Peel had, he
contended, proved to be failures, for food was still beyond
the reach of the labouring classes. Machinery was still
throwing thousands out of work, and the state of the work-
ing classes in the manufacturing districts ,was most deplora-
ble. He admitted that the bill before the house would be
beneficial as far as that it would give etnployment, but he
could not support it for the reason he had stated ; but he
would waive his opposition if the principle of the allotment
to labourers were incorporated with it.
The bill was supported by Sir C. BURRELL and Mr.
MILES.

Mr. ROEBUCK contended that, if the allotment system
were carried out, they would have throughout England, a
pauper agrarian population. He would prefer seeing a labour-
ing population dependant upon wages. The hon. and learned
gentleman advocated the necessity of maintaining these lands
as commons, rather than presenting them to the adjoining
landowners, and said, that if the noble lord would repeal the
corn laws he would give more employment to the people than
he would ever give them by his bill, which, if it passed,
would prove to be the parent of many law-suits.
Lord J. MANNERS wished to see the labourers dependant
on wages. but the allotment system would enable them to
eke out their subsistence.
Mr. ROEBUCK—" Eke out their subsistence !"

Lord J. MANNERS said yes--the expression was, unfortu-
nately, a just one as applied to the present state of the la-
bouring classes in the manufacturing counties.
Mr. C. BuLLER said the principle of this bill was so simple
that the only wonder was that the House of Commons had
not long since acted upon it. He strongly advocated the
propriety of passing the bill.

Mr. S. CRA.WFORD objected to all enclosure bills as rob-
beries of the poor, and he objected to this bill in particular,
as a bill for general plunder of the poor without the inter-
vention of parliament. It was not his wish to see the poor
dependent altogether on wages, for he wished to see them in
a great measure independent, by being dependent upon their
own labour on land. It was not the small holdings of land
in Ireland that caused distress in that country, but the
peculiar circumstances under which they held them, and the
injustice and tyranny under which they laboured.
Mr. DIVETT supported the bill, as did also Mr
LIONICY

The house then divided, and the second reading was carried
by a majority of 64 to 4.

The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
house adjourned.

PENSIONS.—By the death of the Earl of Cathcart, and of
Sir Charles Bagor, two diplomatic pensions have fallen into
the government, amounting together to the sum of £3,486;
but, by the accession of Lords Beauvale and Ponsonby, pen-
sions of a similar nature, amounting together to £2,568 have
accrued, so that a saving of £9lB only will take place in the
diplomatic pension list, which contains 43 members. The
total amount of payments being Z 13,138 12s. 4d` for the year
ending January 5, 1843, for retired pensions; and £140,408
for ambassadors in active service, for the same period ; being
in the whole the sum of £183,138115. 4d. for this one
branch of the public service.

THE LATE DR. MAGINN.--441 erroneous opinion appears
to be entertained as to the proceeds of the subscription, some
time since set on foot for the destitute family of this highly-
talented and much-lamented gentleman. We regret to find,
that up to this time it has fallen far short of what was ex-
pected, and of what it ought to be. The whole amount paid
into Coutts's bank scarcely exceeds £5OO, nearly one-half of
which has already been expended in fitting out the only son
of the deceased as a cadet for India—an appointment which
did great honour to the feelings of Lord Fitzgerald, and was,
we believe, the last official act of his life. This, however, is
the only thing the conservative administration, which owes
so much to Dr. Maginn as a political writer, has done for
his family.—Times.

HER MAJESTY'S ACCESSION.—Tuesday being the fifth
anniversary of her Majesty's accession to the throne, in 1837,
the morning was ushered in by the ringing of a merry peal
at the different churches throughout the metropolis. The
royal standard was hoisted at the Tower, Somerset House,
St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, St. Margaret's' Westminster,
St. Giles, and the usual public buildings. At one o'clock
the Park and Tower guns fired a royal salute, which was
responded to by the batteries at Woolwich, Tilbury Fort,
Chatham, Deal, and Dover. The vessels in the St. Katha.
rine's, London, West and East India Docks, had their
colours fairly flying in the breeze, as well as those up and
down the river, English and foreign, which presented a
variegated and lively appearance. The 28th instant will be
the anniversary of her Majesty's coronation, in 1838.
THE BIRDS AND BROUGHAM HALL.—Mode interest has
recently been excited in Cumberland, and other places, re-
specting the visit to Brougham Hall, of some persons of the
name of Bird, who claim to be the rightful owners of
Brougham Hall, the residence of Lord Brougham, and
which was formerly called " Bird's Nest." The Birds were
seized upon, and put in Appleby gaol, on a charge of tres-
pass, for a fortnight. One of the parties resides in this town,
and he has sent us the following communication on the sub-
ject, with the orthography and general style of which we take
no liberties : _ _

" Preston, June 8

" Sir,—Having of late observed repeated paragraphs in
your papers respecting brougham hall we beg to make they
fowling statement on they 29 of may birds went into brougham
hall they place of their ancestors they went in peacably and
that they can prove in any court and that Lord Brougham
has not had peacable possession for thirty yeares they further
further beg to state that we can show a right and gust title to
the mansion house of Brougham in they house of Lords or
in any court of justice in they three kingdoms and that he
lord brougham has no title but a tictious one.
" THOMAS BIRD."
—Preston Chronicle.