The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-12-20 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD

A pamphlet, printed 'in Liverpool, and entitled, Ile
marks on the Established Churches of England and
Scotland,
,subnzitted to the. consideration of Scotsmen
resident in England—by a Layman," • haS. just been
placed in our hands. It is Well written, and if generally
circulated, is calculated to injure the very cause which
the writer professes to espouse. He complains that
Scotsmen resident in England generally attach them-
selves to the Established Church, in preference to those
branch chapels whiCh are in connection with the Church
of Scotland, and located here. We cannot perceive how
this should be deemed a grievance. If they prefer the
Church of England, in England, the cause may be, per-
haps, ascribed more to the pauciiy of attraction or ability
on the part of the ministers of the Kirk than to anything
else. AS to any depot ture from their former principles
or profesSions, we see no ground for such a charge, in-
asmuch -as the doctrines of the Church of Ebrgland are
as nearly allied to thcsr of Scotland as it is possible to
render them. It is true that there is a departure from
the primitive and external forms of divine worship ;
hut what are outward forms in:an appeal to the foun-
tain of truth and charity—where men meet to humble
themselves at the footstool of mercy, and express the
sorrows of an united penitence ? At any rate, what right
has a "Layman" to complain, if his church be silent? ..
Of the other parts of the work we cannot help - speak-
ing in terms of the strongest reprehension. The writer
Makes a most invidious, ill-natured, unjustifiable, and
ill-timed attack upon the Church of England. He evi-

[ently knows little of its history, less of its forms, and

nothing at all of its practice. He is a professed admirer
of the Church of SCotland, but does he not see that any
successful attempt to pull down the Church of England
must also prove fatal to the sister Establishment in Scot-
land ? But we have no leisure for further notice ; we
.are only sorry to see such a publication sent forth to the
public. If the author have any regard for the creed he

professes, or the-institutions he loves, he cannot-do
better thing than commit his pamphlet to the flames, .as
the lawyers say, "forthwith."

LONDON LATEST NEWS.

Wednesday Evening, half-past Seven o'clock.

The boisterous weather, of which we have accounts from all
parts of the coast, has entirely prevented the arrival of our usual
continental advices, and we are, consequently, without foreign.
intelligence of the least moment to-day.
It is reported that the Superb, steamer, from Lisbon, has
arrived at Cork, but nothing has been received here from her.
Great interest has been excited here to-day by the meeting
of the subscribers to Lloyd's, to appoint scrutineers for the
ballot upon the question of whether Mr. Alderman Thompson
should be requested to withdraw his letter of resignation of the
chair or not. As it was known the alderman intended being
present, the attendance of subscribers was exceedingly numer-
ous, and great curiosity was evinced. After some prelimina-
ries, Mr. Alderman-Thompson entered into an explanation of
his connexion with the Marine Assurance Company at Sunder-
land,
and went at great length into the matter put forth by Mr.
Carruthers, at the last meeting. He stated that he came in
perfect good feeling to the meeting; asserted his appointment
of vice-president -to the Sunderland association was a mere
matter of form; that it could not interfere with the interests of
Lloyd's in any shape, but that, when informed that it had given
umbrage to the subscribers, and that he was called upon to
resign either the presidentship or the chair, he had sent in his
resignation of the latter, rather than be compelled to give up
the principle upon which he always acted. The alderman said
that humanity was mixed up with the association at Sunder-
land, which only insured freight and cargo, and thus enabled
the captain of a collier, who, hitherto, when his vessel was lost,
lost his all, to save himself from utter penury. He concluded
a speech of great length by stating that, if the general feeling
of the subscribers supported him, he should not object to re-
sume the chair.

Mr. Carruthers, in a most able, manly, and eloquent speech,
showed the impossibility-of any individual connected with any
other marine assurance filling►, with justice, the high post of
chairman of Lloyd's. He had been a subscriber at Lloyd's for
thirty years, during which he had always set his face against
joint stock assurance companies, and had opposed them in
every possible way. It was painful, then, on this occasion, to
be charged with motives and inuendos foreign to his heart. lie
felt the difficulty of replying, at a moment's notice, to argu-
ments resulting from a week's reflection ; but he had one
straight forward line of conduct to pursue, and he trusted the
meeting would come to an honest decision on the question.
Mr. Carruthers then explained, with great clearness, the Tath

his sense of duty had induced him to take when a paper,tcon-
taining Mr. Alderman Thompson's name, as vice-president of
the Sunderland association, had been put into his hand. He
appealed to all whether he could adopt any other step than that
of placing it in the hands of the committee of Lloyd's. He did
it with regret; but there was no alternatiie. With respect to
the association at Sunderland being instituted upon a voint of
humanity, he could see nothing of this in the prospectus. Here
Mr. Carruthers read the prospectus, which certainly displayed
no other humanity than that innate feeling of humanity to get
as much of the siller as can be earned. He said none could go
farther than himself in love of benevolence; but every thing
about this company showed it was purely a commercial specula-
tion. After a lengthened speech, to the merits of which our
brief space can do but little justice, Mr. Carruthers concluded
by expressing his firm determination to oppose, with every
power he possessed, the appointment of any officer of any
other marine assurance to the post of commissioner at Lloyd's.
He then gave notice of a motion to the effect that no person
holding office in any joint stock company in Great Britain
should be eligible to sit ou the committee of Lloyd's; and that
any member of Lloyd's, who should accept any such appoint-
ment, should be, by so doing, disqualified from any longer
being a member of the committee. He concluded amidst loud
and repeated cheers.
Mr. Sleap thought the question was confined to a very narrow
compass; it was, whether the committee were right in admit-

ting Mr. Alderman Thompson to be ineligible by accepting the
vice-presidentship of another marine assurance company, or
whether he was not. He was clearly of opinion that the alder-
man could not hold any office under any other assurance com-

pang. The precedent was bad; others of the committee might
do the same; and he was anxious to put it out of their power.
The alderman said this assurance company could not injure
Lloyd's, because they only insured freight and cargo ; but
other companies there insured ships; so that, among them,
they had facilities for doing all the business.
After remarks from Alderman Copeland, Mr. Marryatt,
Mr. Ilarford, Mr. Sadler, and others, scrutineers were appointed
for. the ballot, which commenced at half-past one, and closed at
five o'clock, when the numbers were,—

For the committee conferring with Mr. Alderman
Thompson for the withdrawal of his resignation.... 245
Against it

Majority for 5

This is considered as tantamount to a defeat, as the alderman,
beyond doubt will not re-accept the. chair, as far more of the
" fors" than the five, are those who pay us angel visits, " few
and far between."
VOTE OF FORTY-FIVE GUINEAS TO ➢IR. SUMNER, OF FORMBY.
After the debate on the above had closed, it was proposed to
take into consideration a proposed grant of £3J to Mr. Sutnne,
a surgeon at Formby, near Liverpool, for swimming off to a
pilot boat at the imminent risk of his life, and a further grant
of ten guineas to the Rev. Mr. Formby, to be distributed
among other persons who rendered important service on this
occasion. It was sugg,ested, as an amendment, that Mr.
Sumner's grant should be £5O; but, it being explained that, for
£5O and upwards, a ballot in confirmation would be necessary,
forty-five guineas was substituted, which vote, with that of ten
guineas, was carried unanimously.
. . .

'Thanks were then voted to the chairman, and the meeting

broke up.

LONDON LATEST SHIPPING NEWS.

Five o'clock, p.?fl., If :erinestlay.

There has, in point of fact, been scarce an arrival here to-
day, and the only portion of our Marine intelligence connected
with Liverpool is, the arrival of the London, Pickering, from
Liverpool, at Bombay, and the Alary Susan, Parrott, from
Liverpool, spoken 7th instant, lat. 48 long. 21.

ANOTHER LOT OF COMMISSIONERS.—Captain Upps, R.E.,
and Mr. Aldridge, two of the commissioners appointed by go-
vernment to make inquiries as to the suitable division of towns
min° districts, and other matters connected with the granting
of charters of incorporation to the new boroughs, were last
week in this town pursuing the objects of their appointment.
The persons to whom they applied, viz., the high and low bai-
liffs, several niemb',,rs of the bodies of overseers, guardians, and
town commissioners, and Mr. Kempson, the surveyor, answered
their inquiries with great readiness, and furnished them with
the required information. The commissioners expressed them-
selves gratified with the attention which was paid to their appli-
cations; and we understand that it is likely, as one result of
their visit, that the borough will be divided for the purposes of
the proposed act into twelve districts, nine for Birmingham,
and three for the adjoining parishes, one alderman to be chosen
for each district. 1 e other subjects of inquiry related to the
police, to the appointment of a stipendiary magistrate or re-
corder, the holding of quarter sessions in Birmingham, and the
consequent erection of a gaol. To what conclusion they came
upon these heads: we are, of course, uninformed, as well as the
means devised for defraying the expenses attendant upon the
contemplated changes. The commissioners were to leave town
for Sheffield on Saturday.--Birmingham Gazette.