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rresume to occupy
their time further than at once to proceed to move that
Mr. George Hall Lawrence be elected Mayor for the
borough for the ensuing year. (Applause.)
Mr. Alderman TURNER said it afforded him very great
pleasure to be deputed to second the nomination of Mr.
Lawrence, for he believed that that gentleman's election
to the high office of Chief Magistrate would be confirmed
by the unanimous vote of the Council, a circumstance
which materially enhanced the honour of the appoint-
ment, and rendered the election doubly gratifying to his
Mends. (Hear, hear.) But Mr. Lawrence's friends
were not the only persons interested in the proceedings of
that day. He (Mr. Turner) might congratulate the
Council at large on the choice they were now to make,
for the gentleman they were about to appoin to the
honourable post of Mayor was well qualified in every re-
spect for the situation. (Hear, hear.) He need scarcely
remind them that Mr. Lawrence had been nine years in
the Council, and that, during that long period, be had
devoted the best energies of his mind to the performance
of the various duties required of him. They were wit-
nesses of the untiring exertions, the unremitting zeal, and
unwearied assiduity he had displayed ; and what stronger
evidence could they have that, in the more exalted sphere
to which they were now about to send him, he would be
found equally zealous and faithful. They had an assur-
ance in the past that he would pursue the same meri-
torious line of conduct and discharge his more responsible
duties with fidelity, and tbat, in his hands, re rights and
privileges of the burgesses, and the honour and dignity of
this great Corporation, would be maintained during his
year in office in full integrity. He (Mr. Turner) had only
to add a hope that Mr. Lawrence might enjoy his new
berth with satisfaction to himself and advantage to the
community. (Applause.)
The MAYOR having asked whether there was any other
candidate to be proposed, and there being no answer, Mr.
G. H. Lawrence was declared unanimously elected.
Mr. Lawrence then walked up the room amic loud
cheers and clapping of hands, and took his seat as Chief
Magistrate. He was cordially shaken by the hand by the
retiring mayor, and was also congratulated on his eleva-
tion by several of the members. The usual preliminaries
upon the acceptance of office having been gone through,
The MAYOR addressed the Council as follows :
Gentlemen, before we proceed to the ordinary business of
the day, 1 feel it incumbent upon me to thank you most
sincerely for the honour you have done me in requesting
me to preside over your deliberations, and to act as chief
magistrate of this important town for the ensuing year.
I do indeed thank you for this vote, which abundantly
requites me for all the little difficulties and discourage-
ments which the Chairman of the Finance Committee of
a popularly constituted body such as this, is destined to
encounter. I cannot but feel this encouragement to ex-
cite me to still further exertions to secure your favour,
and to prove myself worthy of this great reward. Gen-
tlemen, impartiality and moderation have always been the
chief characteristics of this chair ; and I hope from what
I know of my own character, I shall not prove defi-
cient in this respect. But I am fully sensible of the
most onerous and important duties which devolve upon
me as mayor of Liverpool. I am fully aware too of my
own deficiencies. I ant fully aware how much I shall stand
in need of support, assistance, and, at times, of advice.
But, gentlemen, I will not allow the difficulties that
present themselves to my mind to press too deeply upon
me, lest I despond. I will rather, upon the contrary,
take courage •, I will rather, upon the contrary, call to
mind that I have the opportunity and the power to look
to the example of my excellent predecessors, who are my
guides—whose steps I shall be anxious to follow, teaching
me what to do and what to avoid. I shall rather call to
mind the kindness and partiality you have shown me this
day, believing as I do that that kindness and partiality
will not be withdrawn from me upon slight grounds, but
that, upon the contrary, you will put a favourable con-
struction upon all my actions, fully convinced of the
honesty of my motives, believing that I have only
those objects in common with yourselves—to maintain
the honour and dignity of this council, and to promote as
far as I can the best interests of the great community
over which we have been called to rule. (Hear, hear.)
With these observations. I again thank you most sincerely
for the honour you have done me • and we will now
proceed to the business of the day. (Hear. hear.)
The Mayor's allowance was fixed at £2OOO.
In reply to Mr. ASPINALL,
The MAYOR said he should have great pleasure in
attending St. Peter's Church, next Sunday, according to
the custom of his predecessors.

Mr. BRAMLEY MOORE here rose and said—lt was my
intention to have claimed the attention of the Council for
a few moments regarding a question of privilege affecting
myself. An attack has been made upon me by a member
of the Council, but I understand thit member is not
present, therefore, with your permission, I will, upon his
arrival, if th... Council will indulge me, draw attention to
the subject, which I believe affects my character as re-
turning officer of the ward.
The MAvoa.—Most certainly.
The minutes of the last Council and the proceedings of
the Dock Committee were read and confirmed.

The three quarterly meetings were appointed for the
first Wednesdays in February, May, and August.
The annual officers of the Corporation were next ap-
pointed, and the Council were proceeding to the election
of the Finance Committee, when
Mr. WILLIAM EARLE rose to ask whether he was in
order in stating previously a few reasons why a change
should be made in the mode of appointing the Finance
Committee ? Having received permission from the chair,
he proceeded to complain of some acts of narrow economy
which bad characterised the conduct of that body, and re-
ferred particularly to Victoria-place, and to the leasing of
some houses in Commutation-row, when he was inter-
rupted by the Mayor, who thought he was entering into
details upon a subject which was not precisely before
them.

.Mr. AMBROSE LACE said that tbere was no question
before the Council. The proper time was when the com-

ittee was move

Sir THOMAS BRANCRER said a few words as to what
were, in his opinion, the duties and proper policy of the
Finance Committee, and proceeded to move a list, Mr.
Earle promising to make his observations as soon as he
came to Sir Thomas's own name. As this was the second
on the list,
Mr. EARLE went on with his comments, and com-
plained of the conduct of the committee with respect to
allowing the land in Cook-street to be built upon, with
expensive buildings, which precluded any good commu-
nication being formed hereafter from Castle-street to St.
George's-hall ; and after referring to other similar alleged
shortcomings, moved that Sir Thomas Brancker be not
appointed to carry into the Finance Committee the views
which he had just expressed.
Mr. PARKER rose to oppose the motion, and con-
tended that the Council should, instead of providing
magnificent thoroughfares and stately buildings, devote
itself to improving the sanatory condition of the people,
many of whom in his own ward were sleeping upon
damp straw.

Mr. RATHUONE approved of Mr. Parker's remarks as
to the importance of sanatory regulations, but did not

agree with him in his objections to spending money upon
improving the entrances to the town, which was Most
important to its health.
The committee was then appointed, consisting of Mr.
James Aspinall, Sir Thomas Brancker, S. Holme ,
George G. Hornby, Hugh Hornby, Richard Houghton,
jun.. James Lawrence, John Shaw Leigh, Thos. Sands,
J. Stewart, J. H. Turner, D. Hodgson, A. Swainson,
and J. Proctor.

Mr. BRAMLCY-MOORE.—Mr. Mayor, I believe Mr
Dsnson has now entered the room.

The M AYOlt.-I8 it a matter of privilege?
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE.—Yes Sir, It is.
The MAYOR.—Because it is only upon such grounds
that you can be allowed to interfere with the regular
course of business.
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE.—I have already introduced
myself to Mr. Denson, and communicated with him ; and
I hope the time of the Council will now be spared.

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Mr. DA.NSON.-It was in consequence of an insinua-
tion thrown out by myself in an address I published to
the electors of Lime-street Ward. Mr. Moore has, in
this room, assured me upon his honour as a gentleman,
there is no truth in the public report upon which I
grounded the insinuation; and I believe it my duty, in
consequence of that assurance, to make the amende
honourable, and to say—in consequence of his saying
there is no truth in it—l believe it to be so. (Hear.)
The MAYOR.—I am very glad to hear what has fallen
from Mr. Danson. If Mr, Denson had known Mr.
Moore as well as we do, he would not have felt it neces-
sary to make any insinuation at all, for I am perfectly
sure there are no grounds for any insinuations. (Hear,
hear.)
The standing orders for the regulations of the proccd-
ings of the Council, and for the government of the Com-
mittees, having been read,
Mr. RATHBONE moved a standing order to the effect
that no publican, spirit dealer, or brewer, be a member of
the Watch Committee. In moving the adoption of this
order, he wished it to be distinctly understood, that he
meant no reflection or die respect to the gentlemen be-
longing to those professions who were members of the
Council. In the case of the magistracy, it was the law of
the country that no gentleman in those trades should sit
at or interfere with licensing sessions; and is was his
?pinion that a similar provision had not been inserted
in the Municipal Act simply from an oversight. He con-
tended that gentlemen in these trades who were upon the
Watch Committee had an influence over the police. He
knew of one instance in which the name of the hon.
member for St. Anne's Ward had been mentioned as
having wished to bully a watchman, but it was contrary
to fact.
Mr. DANSON seconded the motion, and said he was

satisfied tbat Mr. Parker bad not sanctioned the use of
his name in the case mentioned by Mr. Rathbone. At
the same time, gentlemen in the trades referred to were
placed in an invidious position by being elected upon the
Watch Committee.

Mr. PARKER considered that a direct accusation had
been made against him, and that he was the most perse-
cuted man in the Council; but he bid defiance to all
attempts to injure him. As to the constitution of
the Watch Committee, that was a matter for the decision
of the Council, and he cared not one straw about it ; but
he contended it was quite as respectable to be a common
brewer as a master porter. This proposition was a direct
attack upon the tradesmen and shopkeepers of the town,
who commanded all the wards of the town except perhaps

two.
Mr. RATHBONE disclaimed having made any accusa-
tions against Mr. Parker.
Mr. Honcsosr asked the Town Clerk whether it was
competent for any member to propose a motion for the
exclusion of other members from any committee? If it
were competent, it was most extraordinary; and more.
particularly so, seeing the quarter when it proceeded. If
particular members could ne excluded from one com-
mittee, they could be excluded from all, although they
had been elected to discharge their duties as members of
the Council. It was, indeed, the most monstrous as-
sumption of power, and one contrary to law, that could
possible have been made.
Mr. EARLE supported the motion. Mr. Parker had
said, that if next year he ceased to be a member of the
Council, a great deal of his time would be spared. He
(Mr. Earle) was sure a good deal of the Council's time
would be spared too. (A laugh.)
The TOWN-CLERK, in reply to Mr. Hodgson's ques-
tion, said that a standing order like that now proposed,
could not be supported. It was disqualifying certain
members for performing certain acts, upon which the law
was silent. Any gentleman might be objected to, but a
standing order, to the effect suggested, would tie up the
bands of the CounCil from proposing any person of those
trades. It would be a disqualifying clause in relation to
those gentlemen.
Mr. PROCTOR and Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE both called
upon Mr. Rathbone, or any one else, to prove, if they
could, any interference on their part with the police.
Mr. RATHBONE said he did not allege interference, but
he contended that the police officers could not do their
duty effectually against publicans and spirit dealers, when
gentlemen in connection with those trades were upon the
Watch Committee.
After some further discussion, the motion was with-
drawn.
Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE moved the appointment of the
Watch Committee, to consist of the following twenty-five
gentlemen, viz., Messrs. James Proctor, Wm. Atherton,
J. Booker, Wm. Earle, G. G. Hornby, Hugh Hornby,
R. S. Henderson. R. B. Hill, Thomas Littledale, James
Parker, Charles Robertson. Wm. Preston, J. A. Tinne,
J. H. Turner, R. L. Jones, R. Houghton, sen., Richard
Griffith, James Holme, Robert Benn, W. P. Bushby, V.
Higgins, J. G. Morris, James Stitt, William Bennett,
and Wm. Watson.
Mr. J. STEWART moved that the following gentlemen
constitute the Improvement Committee, viz., Messrs. S.
Plumpton, R. B Hill, R. L. Jones, W. P. Bushby, J.
A. Tinne, Samuel Holme, C. Robertson, W. Nicol,: and
T. Robinson.
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE stated that there was only one
vacancy upon the Dock Committee—that of Mr. James
Aikin, and moved his- re-appointment.
Mr. J. B. LLOYD moved that the following gentlemen
form the Courts of Law Committee, viz. :—Messrs. J.
Aspinall, W. Earle, R. B. Hill, J. B. Lloyd, Eimund
M-Ivneux, James Plumpton, J. Stewart, J. A. Tinne,
istin4
and J. A. Turner.
Mr. ASPINALL moved the appointment of the Markets
Committee, consisting of Messrs. James Lawrence, Eyre
Evans, Thomas Kave, J. Cooper, C. S. Middleton, James
ofe appointment of the
Parker, Charles Robertson, Thomas Toulmin, and J.
Aspinall.
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Mura.tioEn Alot,YilEtlx moved th
Committee, eoos
Messrs. W. Bennett,
T.[Chilton, R.S. Crook, R. B. Hill, D. Hodgson, S. Ilolme,
G. G. Hornbv, T. B. Horsfall, R. Houghton, sen., T.
Kaye. C. W. Reade, Thos. Shaw, A. Swainson,.and Ed-
mund Molyneux.
Mr. RAT BONE announced that, on a future day, he
should move that the schools should be remodelled and
managed upon the original system.
Sir THOS. BRANCKER proposed the appointment of the
Gaol Committee, viz.. :—The Mayor, Messrs. Jas. Aikin,
Wm. Earle, Eyre Evans. John Holme, H. llornbv, R.
Houghton, jun., D. Hodgson, W. Rathbone, Thomas
Sands, and Robert Benn.
Sir Tilos. BRANCKER moved that the following gentle-
men form the Town-hall Establishment Committee, viz. ;
the Mayor, Sir T. Bianeker, Messrs. D. Hodgson, C. S.
Middleton, J. B. Moore, T. Plumpton, and A. Swainson.
Mr. A. LACE moved that the following gentlemen form
the Health Committee, viz. :—The Mayor, Messrs. W.
Bennett, J. Cooper. R. B. Hill, Jas. Holme, R. Hough-
ton, sen., R. L. Jones, Thos. Kave, A. Lace, J. B.
Lloyd, J. G. Morris, Jas. Parker, W. Rat hbone, C. W.
Reade, C. Robertson, J. A. Tinne, and T. Toulmin.
Mr. RATHBONE opposed the appointment of Mr. Tout-
min, on the ground the.: he would not work if elected, as
he was known to have stated that he had only come for-
ward for the ward to keep out a worse man.
Mr. Tommie, however, declared that he was ready to
work on the committee, but would not withdraw his ex-
pression that he came forward for the ward " to keep out
awo se man." (Laughter.)
Mr. CROOK moved the appointment of the Gardens'
Committee. to consist of Messrs. R. S. Henderson, R. L.
Jones, J. B. Lloyd, W. Preston, T. Itoyden, V. Higgins,
and R. S. Crook.
Mr. LLOYD moved the appointment of the Borougli
Courts' Committee, to consist of Messrs. W. P. Bushby,
R. S. Crook, S. Holme, A. Lace, J. Proctor, C. Robert.
son, W. Rathbone, and J. B. Lloyd.
Mr. G. G. HORNBY proposed the Church Expenditure
Committee, to consist of Messrs. R. Griffiths, A. Lace,
E. Molyneux, C. W. Reade, F. Shand, Sir T. Brancker,
and G. G. Hornby.
Mr. H tonnes made some remarks upon the costliness
of the Corporation Churches to the borough fund;. and.
wished that something could be done by which they c
be better filled, and made to pay their own expenses, like
some other churches in the town. which not only did so,
but left a handsome surplus to those wbo had invested
money in them. After a few words of explanation from
Mr. J. Lawrence.
Sir THOS. BRANCKER moved that the following gentle-
men form the Observatory Committee :—Messrs. Aikin,
Higgins, Hill, R. Houghton, sen., Nicol, Plumpton, F.
Shand, J. Tyrer, and H. Danson.
Mr. Nicol moved the appointment of the Fire Com-
mittee, to consist of the Mayor, Sir Thos. Brancker,

Messrs. Aikin, Booker, 0. G. Hornby, H. Hornby, F. Shand,
Stewart, Swainson, Turner, S. Holme, and Nicol.
Mr. HORSYALL gave notice, that at a future opportunity he
should move, as an instruction to the committee,' that the old
practice of holding inquests in cases of fires be revived.
Mr. J. N. Wool) proposed that the Ferries Committee con
sist of Messrs. Aikin, Atherton, Evans, Mann, Boyden, Stew-
art, and Wood.
Mr. W. EARLE, on rising to move the appointment of a spe-
cial committee for the purpose of devising a comprehensive
plan for the improvement of the borough, entered into some
remarks upon the great importance of the subject. They had
the borough extending itself in all directions ; and the vacant
land in the outskirts was being rapidly covered with buildings
of all descriptions, including confined courts, with no compre-
hensive plan adopted to secure good openings and wide tho-
roughfares for the purposes of health and ventilation. He was
not afraid of having to incur the necessity of a borough rate
for the purpose of carrying out this important object ; and
pointed to what the inhabitants of Manchester were doing to
improve their town. The expense of a rate would fall upon
those who were best able to pay it. He concluded by moving
the appointment of the committee.
Mr. PA RKER opposed the appointment of the committee, and
stated that although a similar one had been appointed on the
sth of March last, they had done nothing until October, when
they
.presented a report, which he requested to have read for
the information of the new members before he proceeded.
The report having been read, detailing the present powers of
the Improvement Committee, and the streets which they had
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the power to improve, contended that they had sufficient work
cut out for them for some time to come. He was confident the
Council would never submit to the imposition of a borough rate
to improve the approaches to the Town-hall and to St. George's
Hall. They all remembered how they had mismanaged the
funds under their former acts of Parliament, when, to get
something more sightly to the eye, at the bottom of their new
street on the site of Pool-lane, than a few coasting vessels, they

filled up the old dock, and built upon it, at a vast expense, the
present clumsy-looking Custom House. He asked where the

public would not allow them to Put their hands into their pock-
ets. They had no powers now to move at all, but must go to
the public for a rate, and thus place the Council in opposition
to the mass of the people.
The Committee was appointed, consisting
W. Nicol. T. H. Horsfall, J. Stewart -

of Sir T. Brancker

gentleman expressed his wish to be excused? although he-fully

iis'usefulness in preparing information. He was most favour-
able to the principle of opening out new and wide thoroughfares
for the ventilation of the town, and regretted that it had not
been earlier attended to. Ile had himself, when in the Council,
and the land in Cook-street was in their possession, proposed
nr 9,1 vnrilft wide from it

onwards, crossing Sir Thomas's-buildings to the Law Courts,
by which a view of the portico of St. George's Hall could have
been obtained from Castle-street, and the present thorough-
fares of Lord-street, &c., have been relieved. .This improve-
ment he was convinced might have been effected at a compara-
tively trilling cost. He was defeated, however, on the question,
and it was now rendered impracticable. Another great mis-
take had been committed in .not carrying Burlington-street
down to Regent-street, by which the current of air from the
.river would have been carried up to Everton. The Committee
would act as an excellent pioneer for such improvements. Mr.
Holme ultimately withdrew his objections to sit.
Mr LACE moved the re-appointment of the special committee
appointed on the 24th of August last, to make the necessary
preparations for carrying out the provisions of the Sanatory
Act, which comes into operation on the Ist of January next,
and to take all necessary steps for securing an adequate supply
of water to the borough for domestic, manufacturing, and
other private.and public purposes. It was due to the Council,
as the notices for the Water Bill would appear in the Gazette
of Tuesday next, to give some explanation respecting that
measure. When the committee was first formed, their in-

structions were to consider the best means of providing a
plentiful supply of water at the cheapest rate—that was,twenty
or thirty gallons per head per day. The Mat consideration
was, whether that supply could he obtained near Liverpool.
The committee immediately upon their appointment made in-
quiry; and although there was a general impression, from the
known strata of Liverpool, that it could scarcely be obtained,
they considered it their duty to obtain the opinions of scien-
tific men. The first gentleman who gave them information
was Mr. Cunningham, the architect, who was also a geologist,
and he was decidedly of opinion, from the strata in and about
Liverpool, that the supply could not be obtained from this
neighbourhood. Professor Ansted was next consulted: and he
alluded more particularly to this gentleman, because, when he
first arrived here, he did not see any difficulty in the way of
obtaining an ample 811DDIV. but, as a prudent man, he declined

tc! give *lily posiliveoiiaiuntil he had examined the whole
district. He had now done so, and on the 31st of October he
made a report, well worthy of the perusal of the Council. That
report satisfied him (Mr. Lace) that it was totally out of the
question to expect to obtain a supply of water from this neigh-
bourhood. The committee had also the opportunity of con-
sulting. Mr. Rendel and Mr. Cubitt, both of whom stood very
high in their profession ; they deferred to the opinion of geolo-
gists, but both expressed a conviction that a supply from or
near Liverpool was not to be expected. Mr. Rendel referred

Nov. 10, 1846.

the committee to the case of Edinburgh, which for years had
collected water from springs, but had been obliged to go for an
adequate supp!y to the Pentland Hills. Mr. Cubitt considered
it impracticable to make the attempt here. On the other
hand, there was only Mr. Simpson, who had made a report to
the Highway Board, in which he stated that from the two
sources of springs and surface water, together with the Green-
lane works, ten millons of gallons daily could be obtained.
That, at the extreme of 30 gallons per head per day, would
about supply the town of Liverpool, as it now was, but there
would be no provision for the wants of a future time. (Hear.)
Gentlemen would see, on looking over Mr. Simpson's report,
that four millions of gallons were estimated to proceed from
springs, and no doubt they would yield, at the first, that
amount. But the question was, how long that supply would
last, if four millions of gallons daily were pumped up? (Hear.)
On that point, Professor Ansted and Mr. Cunningham had
given very valuable information, showing' that it could not be
expected. The red sand-stone might be perfectly saturated
now, but it would not remain so very long. Four millions of
gallons more, daily, were to come from the surface; but as-

gaming there'woulifbe that quantity, it was admitted, 'upon an
analysis, that the water would be of a brown colour. The
Council would agree with him it would be most impolitic
to begin a great work, at great expense, and when it was com-
pleted to be obliged to tell people the water, when they saw it,
was clean. (Hear.) Mr. Simpson's was the only report the
committee had in contradiction to those of the other parties ;
and when the names of Cunningham. Ansted, Cubitt, and
Rendel, were mentioned as taking a contrary view, it was front
no disrespect to Mr. Simpson that their opinion was pre-
ferred. He (Mr. Lace) did not mean to say that ten millions of
gallons would not be found, but it was doubtful whether one-
half of the quantity would be of a character fit to be given to
the town. (Hear.) The committee had, however, taken the
precaution of looking elsewhere. The first scheme that pre-
sented itself was the Bala Lake scheme. No doubt it was a
grand scheme, and if it were not for the expense, was the scheme
that ought to be carried out. It had a great many good pro-
perties, besides the immense extent of water; but without going
into detail, the committee were borne out in estimating the ex-
pense at from .t 1,000,000 to £1,500,000 ; and as one great object,
next to an ample supply, was cheapness, it behoved the com-
mittee to look nearer home. They turned their attention to
the scheme mentioned to them in April last by Mr. Hawksley,
which was to supply the town, from the east side, towards
Chorley, and in the direction of Rivington Pike. They found
that 20 millions of gallons per day could be supplied thence.
The distance was about 25 miles ; the water would come along
the roads most of the way ; it was of good quality ; and the
expense would be about £450,000. This, of course, did not
include the piping in the town, but it would include every-
thing that the Bala Lake scheme included for £1,000,000 or
£1,500,000. The committee, therefore, had thought it their
duty to give the notices for this scheme, and with the approba-
tion of the Council they wouloi carry it through. At the same
time, they would continue the investigation into the goodness
and plenty of the water, and if they found they had been mis-
taken, they would at once go to the Council and say so. They
had no predilection for Rivington Pike, nor had they any pre-
judice against Bala Lake; but they considered that next to a
sufficient quantity was its cheapness. Gentlemen must recol-
lect that an expense of £1,500,000 would be something like a
rate of 2s. in the pound upon the town for water, and that it
would almost preclude the element being given cheap to the
lower classes. It was, therefore, of the utmost consequence to
keep to the cheapest scheme. It would be seen, from the
parliamentary notices, that power was taken to purchase the
two water companies. This was not upon the ground of any
fear of the sufficiency of the supply by the new scheme, but
because it might be desirable hereafter to treat with those
companies upon a fair and liberal footing, and to prevent au
opposition to and destruction of private interests.
Mr. PROCTER was sure the Council would effort the Com-
mittee every facility in prosecuting this great object, but the
purchase of the two water companies upon fair and honourable
terms should be insisted upon, because they had the power of
increasing the value of their property. He hoped the bill
would be vigorously prosecuted in Parliament.
Mr. LACE was satisfied the committee would go on with the
bill; and the ground upon which the existing companies would
be purchased would be that of giving a fair remuneration for
private property. (Hear.) If the companies required an inor-
dinate amount, or if they expected that by waiting till next
year it would be doubled, they would be much mistaken. In
any such case, the new works would be found able to supply
the whole town, and the existing companies would find they
had made a great mistake.

Mr. MoorNs expressed his regret that the committee had
decided upon the Rivington Pike scheme in opposition to the
Bala Lake. By one the supply would be accidental and casual;
by the other constant and certain. The distance from Riving-
ton Pike was twenty-five miles, and it would cost half a million.
Bala Lake was not more than twice the distance.
Mr LACE said the distance to Bala Lake itself was a hundred
miles.
Mr. MomNs contended that in this case economy was not
advisable, as it must be recollected that the population was ra-
pidly increasing.
Mr. At IN rose to order, and suggested the impropriety of
details being entered into.
Mr. LACE said he should not like Mr. Higgins' statements
to go forth without reading the following official letter from
Mr. Hawkesley:—

Notingham, Nov? 5, 1846.

,
My dear Sir,—l am greatly surprised at any question arising
respecting the amount of water obtainable from the. Lancashire
hills, for nothing can be better established than the actaal yield
in the Anglezark district. About twelve thousand acres of col-
lecting ground are proposed to be acquired, and the area would
supply a population of a million and a half, if the whole of the
water were impounded, or more than eight hundred thousand,
•

after giving water compensation instead of money compensa:
tion, and still allowing some water to run waste.
The Turton and Entwisle reservoir has discharged by ad-
measurement nearly 1 1-sth cubic feet per second, during twelve
hours of every working day (i.e. 310 days per year), from every
hundred acres of collecting ground, a quantity sufficient to sup-
ply more than 120 people per acre ; so of other reservoirs in the
same neighhourhood. Manchester is now seeking possession
of a territory much less than yours, and calculates on higher
results. Why, then, should your friends doubt? Surely the
very absurd, though possibly well meant, articles in the local
papers, cannot have disturbed their minds so far as to make
them doubt the actual results of a daily and continuous experi-
ence extending over a considerable term of recent years.. I
tphleedpgreopomsyesdeldfisttoritchtiswi,
ltlhaaftorhds
all r e gat
hred simquantity atonyrdnquoafrif
verpool can possibly require.
. .

•
My report is not ready for these sufficient reason
Ist. Because I did not know it would be wanted before Mon-
day.
2nd. Because I had not received all the necessary docu-
ments
And 3rd. Because I have devoted myself so earnestly and
so long to the Liverpool inquiry, that I have been compelled to
withdraw myself for a few days on other equally urgent affairs.
Pray, therefore, excuse me, and believe me, my dear sir,
ycrirs faithfully T. HAWKESLEY.
Wm. Shuttleworth, Esq.

Mr. AIXIN considi

politic.
portanc

and in the meantime isolated facts were

which greatly affected the question.
The MAyoit said the whole subject must come ag

the Council.
Mr. Hioancs, Mr. LACE, and Mr. EARLE, having each ad.
dressed some further observations upon the subject, the follow•
ing gentlemen were unanimously appointed the committee:—
Messrs. Rathbone, Stewart, Turner, H. Hornby, Tinne, Nicol
Jas. Holme, Robertson, Horsfall, Earle, Shaw, and Lace.

POST OFFICE MANAGEMENT.
Mr. ROBERTSON moved the appointment of a committee to
inquire into the defective postal arrangements between Liver-
pool and other parts of the kingdom, with the view of reprer
senting to the proper authorities the necessity of granting in-
creased facilities of communication in this department; and
further to report on the desirableness of making Liverpool the
port of arrival and despatch for all Transatlantic Mails. Mr.
Robertson, in support of this motion, read a variety of details,
which have already apgeared in one or more of the local papers,
of the defective arrangements of the post-office between this
a number of p'aces. He also enlarged upon the necessity. of
making Liverpool, instead of Southampton, the port of arrival

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and despatch 'for the West India mails—a change which has
been repeatedly urged in the columns of this paper. Had
there been a Chamber of Commerce in this town representing
the trading interests of the community, be should not have
troubled the Council with this subject. But there was no such
body in Liverpool. There were only sectional associations
most of which were dragging on an unprofitable existence, d
had, from their isolation, no influence with the government.
He hoped, however, to see that reproach taken away.
Mr. RATHBONE seconded the motion, and it Was Carried
unanimously.

The following gentlemen were appointed the committe
Messrs. Horsfall, Rathikorre, Samuel Holme, Tinne,

Robertson

The Council separated at a quarter past three o'clock

The Earl of Ellesmere has been elected Lord Rector of the
University of Aberdeen for the ensuing year.
ST. Palm's ScnooLs.—We beg to call the attention of the
Christian public to an advertisement in another part of our
present publication, respecting the schools connected with St.
Paul's Church. We regret to find that a considerable debt
still checks their efficiency. They are situated in the very
centre of the business part of the town, and give education to
the children of the porters, carters, and boatmen connected
with the trade. We cannot therefore but hope that the mer-
chants, brokers, and others, will enable the conductors of these
schools to make them more decidedly and more widely a bles-
sing, by contributing to remove the debt which so heavily
presses upon them. _

- DEATH BY STARVATION,—The Cork Reporter publishes a
fall note of the evidence taken at a coroner's inquest held at
Skibbereen, on the body of a man named 111`Kennedy, who
died of hunger, although it was proved by several witnesses
that a fortnight's wages due to the wretched man at tI
of his decease, were withheld owin

to a very inexcusable
5 in the employ of the

Board of WorkS, it having transpired that one pay-clerk got in
mistake, and paid in his district the money intended to be paid

CHURCH Music.—We are glad to be ab:eito announce
that the Rev. Canon M'Neile has kindly consented to
preach a sermon next Sunday morninz at Trinity Church,
St. Anne-street, when a collection will be made towards
defravine the ..xnuenses of the choir. The musical

ere Is 81111 room Tor oupruvemem,
being limited, the revenue which bjEr; e:

accrued

.roin their

brra!iry haA been

to meet the necessary expenditure.
THE TATTERSHALL EXIIIBITIONS.—ShortIy before
ctiil
01 nneesds
aannddenica
omuertai tgeedd
ad es acthhe
moef
for D Tall,rp.romaot ttei rnsgh
echae..
sthane

two perpetual prizes in connexion with each of the na-

ad a 1

tional schools, a.- ger number in connexion with
schools of a more general kind; so that the best boys
might be selected at Midsummer and Christmas respect-
ively, to receive a year's gratuitous education at the lowet
school of the Collegiate Institution. 'I he proposition has
met with universal approval, and the committee of the
institution have exhibited a laudable anxiety to give effect,
as far as in their power, to the benevolent intentions of
individuals or school committees. The congregation of
St. Augustine's Church has been the first to realise the
and it is expected that their first prize pupil on the
new foundation, will he elected at Christmas. It has been
suggested, with great propriety, that "The Tattershall
Exhibitions" would be a more appropriate name for thea►
than "St. Augustine's Exhibitions ; '—they would thus,
in benefiting education, form a very suitable memorial of
one whose name should not be forgotten, and whose last
public act was in behalf of the schools connected with his

church

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