The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-04-30 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

Was the Committee of one of the candidates held there ?--
Yes, Lord Sandon's.
How long were YOU employed there ?—Five days.
By whom were you engaged ?—By Mr.. Henry Wilson.
Did you see Mr. James Ackers, at the Golden Lion.—Yes.
Was Air. Ackers much inquired for there ?—Yes.
Was he generally asked for ?—Yes, on the second day.
Did you see any other gentlemen there ?—Yes.
Mention their names.—l cannot tell exactly their names.
Do you remember the evening of Wednesday, the first day
of the election ?—Yes.

Did you see Mr. Wilson there ?—Yes.
Did he come to the door at which you stood ?—Yes.
Did you hear what he said ?—Yes, he said it is all up with us,
we must do something more.
Did you go into the Committee R oom ?—Yes.
Do you remember the morning of the second day ?—Yes.
Were there many drunken men about the house that day ?
Yes' there were many intoxicated with liquor.
Do you remember four- men in particular among them;
how were they dressed ?—ln a blue jacket and trowsers.
Had vou observed them about the inn for a long time ?—Not
a long time.
About how long ?—About half an hour.
Did they ask for Mr. Ackers

Did he come out to them ?—He did.
Did he take them on one side?—He had some conversation
with one of them. _

How far where they from you ?—There was one of them close
by the side of me.
Did you see anything pass between Mr. Ackers and those
people ?—Yes.
What was it ?—l' saw some sovereigns wrapped in a red rib.
bon, he pulled them out of .his breeches pocket, and thrust
them into the man's hand.
'Was that after the conversation ?—Yes.

Did the man go among them ?-L—The man went away pre-
sently.
As there are several Mr. Ackers, will you describe Mr.
Ackers to me P—He is a histy man, he is one, of the Commis-
sioners of the Watch. _ _

You say you saw the sovereigns wrapped .in a red ribbon,
how many were there ?—I cannot say; there might be four or
five, or less.
At what time in the day did this occur ?—Between 11 and 12
o'clock.

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Did you see Mr. Ackers after this conversation with one of
the four say anything to the remaining three ?—Yes, he went
and conversed with them, he put his hand in his pocket, and
gave them ribbons wrapped up, similar to what the money
was in.

Were their ribbons folded up in the same way ?—Yes, they
were. _

Were the ribbons given loose or wrapped Up ?—Wrapped
up.
Did you see from whence Mr. Ackers took those ribbons ?
Out of his right hand small clothes pocket.
Do you remember seeing a woman come to the room ?
Yes. _ _ _

When was it?—Towards the afternoon, it might be between
two and three o'clock. . _ _

Did she say what her business was I—Yes, she asked me to
let her in to Mr. Ackers, that she wanted a ribbon from him.
Did you let her in ?—No, I told her that I could not admit
her for that purpose.
Did she say anything else then I—She told me it was not the
ribbon altogether that she wanted, that her husband had polled,
that she had a family, and she wanted something to put her
over the winter, and then I admitted her in.
Did you see her come out of the room ?—Yes.
Did she say any thing to you after she came out P—No, there
were some gentlemen at the door, and I did not have any con-
versation with her then.

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In the case you have mentioned of the gold being wrapped up
did you distinctly see the gold ?—I saw the gold : the ribbon
was wrapped round it on one way only, it was nut crossed.
Only the edge was seen ?—Yes.
Did you see the edges then ?—Yes I did.
What occasioned you to mention Mr. Ackers particularly ?
On account of his being enquired for so snitch by the men that
came there. _ _ _ _ .

Did you see Mr. Ackers give ribbons out of his small-clothes
pocket to any other person ?--.Yes, he gave them loose .fre-
quently.
Did you notice the men about the Golden Lion on the Wed
nesdav ?—I could not say. .
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Were they intoxicated on that day ?—No, they were sober all
day.
Did Toll notice any difference in their appearance upon the
Thursday
What condition were they in upon the Thursday ?—They were
iutoxicated with liquor.
Cross-examined by Mr. Rogers.

You say you saw some sovereigns wrapped up in a red rib-
bon : in what way were those sovereigns wrapped up ?—ln pull-
ing them out of his right-hand small-clothes pocket he had the
ribbons with the sovereigns wrapped in.
How were the sovereigns wrapped in this ribbon ?—The rib-
bon was wrapped one way round. • .
How near was he standing to you ?—Close by the right of
me.

Were there many people standing round ?—Not many at that
time.

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How was the ribbon put on : was it turned over or tied over ?
—I cannot say whether it was pinned or no.
Were the sovereigns fastened or loose ?—They were fastened
in by the ribbon.
How were they fastened ?—By wrapping the ribbon round.
Was the ribbon so fastened as to keep the sovereigns together?
—Yes. _ .

What was the width of the ribbon ?—lt might be an inch wide
or an inch and a quarter.
Just describe how it was fastened ?—I cannot say whether it
was pinned or sewed.
Did you look ?—I looked particularly at the gold, at the sove-
reigns .
Was there a little socket made in the ribbon or a little pocket ?
—No it was wrapped round.
Was it wrapped round the sovereigns entirely, leaving only
the edge or brow ?—lt was upon the centre of the sovereigns SQ
that you could distinguish the edges of the gold. •
Do you mean that the ribbon crossed the sovereign in the
centre ?—Yes.
Do you mean that there was a little bit of a pocket in the rib-
bon holding the sovereigns, or was it a large bit of ribbon ?:----The
ribbon was wrapped round the sovereign.
Was the ribbon hanging down ?—No the ribbon was wrapped
round the sovereign altogether.
Which way did he hold it in•his hand ?—He held it between
fingers.
Where was the ribbon then ?—On the sovereigns.
Was there no ribbon hanging down.—No.
Where could you see the red ribbon if there.was none hanging
down ?—I could see the ribbon in his hand as he took it out of
his pocket.
Did the ribbon continue in his pocket when he had it in his
hand ?—No.
How much ribbon was there about those sovereigns ?—I can-.
not say.
Was there any hanging down ?-No.
Then he had it in his hand like a pinch of snuff ?—He had it.
between his fingers.
What was the colour of the ribbon?—Red.
Well, you undertake to say that you saw no ribbon hanging
down about those sovereigns ?—Yes, I will.
You say he is a full jolly man ?—He is a lusty man.
With a good stout hand ?—Yes.
A good large thumb ?—I cannot tell for the size of his thumb.
Will you undertake to say that if a man holds up five sove-
reigns in his finger and thumb so as to shew you the edges, you
can see ribbon there without any ribbon hanging down ?—There
was no ribbOn hanging down.
And yet you undertake to swear that you saw the ribbon
wrapped round the sovereigns ?—Y es. What quantity of sove-'
reigns there was I cannot say.
How did you know they were sovereigns ?—I saw the edges
of them.
Will you undertake to state that they were not shillings ?
Yes, they were sovereigns.
And you positively state that you saw them sufficiently well
to say they were sovereigns and not shillings ?—Yes.
How long was this passing from his hand into the man's hand ?
—Not long.
Did he give it him directly ?—Yes.
As quick as possible.—Yes.
And you undertake to say it was five sovereigns and not five
shillings ?—I cannot say that it was five.
But you undertake to say that they were sovereigns ?—Yes.
You say that the other three men had ribbons wrapped up in
the same way : where was that ?—At the Golden Lion Yard.
At the same time ?—Soon afterwards.
How near were you to Mr. Ackers then ?—As far as from here
to that door.
Now tell us what you saw pass there ?—They had some con-
versation together and he pulled the ribbons out of his pocket
and gave them to those men.
What sort of ribbons were they ?—Red ribbons.
Did you see any thing else besides the red ribbon ?—Nothing.
How did you seethe red ribbons.?-41e gave them openly to
those men.
Oi:enly in his hand ?—Yes.