The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-04-30 00:00:00

MR. PERRAND AND MR. HOGG.

Mr. Ferrand has published the following letter addressed
to Mr. Hogg :
" Carlton Club, April 27.
" Sir,—The proceedings in the House of Commons
being now terminated, I think it a duty 1 owe to myself
to volunteer that explanation of the exact meaning my
words at Leeds were intended to convey, which I never
should for one moment have withheld had you made that
personal and private application to me which has hitherto
been the invariable custom amongst gentlemen, instead of
adopting the indirect and public course of appealing to
Parliament. _ _

" Against the course you and others chose to pursue 1
deemed it my duty as a British subject to make a consti-
tutional stand. I protested against the right of the
House of Commons to interfere in such cases; and had
that house ventured to assert such power either by cen •
curing me, or by any other act of a tangible nature, it
was my intention to have resisted such an assumption of
power on its part, and to have tried that right in another
and a constitutional court. For the anomalous position
in which the house last night placed itself I am in no way
responsible.
"With regard to yourself and the expressions I made
use of respecting you, I much regret that my assurance
on Monday night, that you were labouring under a mis-
take' when you supposed that ' I had charged you with
what was dishonest and dishonourable,' was not, as I
think it ought to have been, satisfactory to you ; and that
you persisted in driving me to the alternative of either
remaining silent or of submitting to the interference of an
unconstitutional tribunal. On Monday night, I distinctly
told you what I did net mean ; I now tell you what I did
mean. It always was, and still is, my opinion that your
decision respecting the Nottingham election was unjust,
and directly opposed to the evidence laid before you ; it is
further my opinion, that in coming to this decision
you were influenced by a bias, of which you were pro-
bably unconscious, that such decision would be acceptable
to a Government you were anxious to support, and more
particularly acceptable to that individual member of it to
whose favourite legislative measure Mr. Walter had ever
been the strenuous opponent. Further than this I never
did, I never could, intend to say. I never for one moment
believed that you had bern personally corrupted, or that
You either were or are to receive the reward of that cor-
ruption. Had Iso believed, or had I intended to convey
such belief, it would have been done in plain English, and
not by faint innuendo. I therefore wish to express my
regret that your feelings as a man of honour should have
been wounded by unfortunutely straining my words into
a meaning they were never intended to convey.
" With regard to your conduct during this past week,
no one can regret more deeply than I do that you should
have lent yourself to the personal persecution with which
I have been assailed ; that, however, is mere matter of
private feeling to myself. But it is still more to be regretted
on public grounds, when considered, as I fear the country
will consider it, as having so materially contributed to-
wards placing the House ot Commons in the embarrassing
and unconstitutional position in which it now finds itself
—a position ill-calculated to maintain its efficiency in
public estimation—a position, in short, which presents it
to the country no longer as the defender, but as the di-
rect invader, of one ot the deat est privileges of the sub-
ject. " I am, Sir,
" Your most obedient humble servant,
" W. B. FERRAND.
" J. W. Hogg, Esq., M.P."

REPLIES OF LORD SANDON, M.P., AND SIR
HOWARD DOUGLAS, M.P., TO THE AD-
DRESS OF THE LOYAL ORANGEMEN OF

LIVERPOOL

We have pleasure in laying before our readers the fol-
lowing communications which have been received from
our excellent members, in reply to an address from the
loyal Orangemen of this town, expressive of the grateful
sense which they entertain of the manly stand made by
them in behalf of the suffering factory women and chil-
dren of Great Britain. Such a tribute as these letters
convey to the maligned, because loyal, Orange body, far
more than atones for all the scurrilities with which fifty
Mercuries can bespatter them.

" London, April 19, 1844.
" MY DEAR Sit,—May I ask you.to expreQs to the
loyal Oraneernen of Liverpool, and their district master,
my sense of the approbation, which through your hands
they have conveyed, of the course, which 1 and my hon.
colleague have pursued on the Factory Bill.
" I cannot but hipe that that cause will ultimately tri-
umph, whatever difficulties so great a change may, perhaps
not unnaturally, be exposed to at the present moment.
" I am, dear sir,
" Your faithful servant,
" SANDON.
" Richard Harbord, Esq."

" 15, Green-street, April 22, 1844.
" DEAR Srn,—l have the honor to acknowledge the
receipt of your letter. transmitting to me a copy of the
resolutions of a meeting of the loyal Orangemen of Liver-
pool ; and request you will express to that most respectable
and loyal body, that I receive, with great pleasure, that
mark of their esteem and approbation ; and I beg you to
accept my thanks for the kind and friendly terms in which
you convey to me that resolution.
" I have the honor to be,
" Dear sir,
"Yours very sincerely and faithfully,
• " HOWARD DOUGLAS.
" Richard Harbord, Esq."