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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-04-30 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-FRIDAY.

RECALL OF LORD ELLENBOROUGH FROM INDIA.
Mr. MACAULAY rose and said,—l wish to ask the right.
hon. baronet at the head of Her Majesty's Government
whether it is true that the Court of Directors of the East
India Company have recalled Lord Ellenborough from
the Government of India ?
Sir .R. PEEL.—I beg to state on Wednesday last Her
Majesty's Government received a communication from
the Court of Directors that they had exercised the power
which the law gives them, to recall at their will and plea-
sure the Governor. General of India. (Loud cheers from
the opposition benches.)
Mr. MACAULAY.—Under these circumstances, I sup-
pose, I need scarcely say it is not my intention to bring
forward on Tuesday week the motion of which I have
given notice, respecting the occupation of Gwalior. I,
of course, reserve to myself the right to bring the sub-
ject under the notice of the house hereafter.
MR. SMYTHE AND MR. ROEBUCK.
Mr. ROEBUCK, referring to the retort made by him last
Wednesday on Mr. Smythe, (imputing to him, that he
bad been actuated by disappointment in not obtaining
office,) read a letter addressed to him by that hon. mem-
ber, calling upon him for a retraction, with a hostile alter-
native; upon which he said to thegentleman who brought
it, " Mr. Smythe shall hear from me in the House of
Commons."
The letter was then read at the table.
Mr. SMYTHE said he received no such message; the
message brought to him being merely, that Mr. .Smythe
should hear from him. He had, however, learned from
another quarter, that Mr. Roebuck intended to bring the
matter before the house. Mr. Roebuck had some weeks
ago imputed to him that he was actuated by d6appoint-
ment at not obtaining office. He had immediately writ-
ten to his constituents a letter, which he had published,
disclaiming that motive, and assuring them that he had
never even applied for the smallest favour. Nevertheless,
Mr. Roebuck, on Wednesday, had repeated the insinua-
tion. The matter having been brought by Mr. Roebuck,
this evening, in this shape before the house, Mr. Smythe
felt that he had no longer any alternative but to apologize
to the house, for having unintentionally caused them any
trouble.
Sir R. PEEL suggested that both members should be
called on to give their assurance that this matter should
proceed no further.
Mr. ROEBUCK had never intended it should proceed
further.
The SPEAKER called on Mr. Smythe for Ms assurance.
Mr. SMYTHE was demurring, when the SPEAKER re-
peated his injunction, with which Mr. Smythe then

complied.
_ report of Mr. Ferrand's speech having been read at

the table,
Mr. FERAAND apologised for having been the cause of
wasting the time of the House. Had he not
ibeen taken
by surprise on the first night, he would have gven to Mr.
Roebuck's question the answer suggested by Mr. T.
Duncombe. He must apologise also to the working
classes for taking up, on this evening, say portion of the
time which was due to the approaching debate on their
vital interests. He had come down on Wednesday to
make his statement ; and it was a mistake to suppose that
the rude behaviour of the House had then driven him
away.- He had on that occasion admitted that he had
used every word imputed to him, and he had then left the
House, as he believed was usual, in order that he might
be no check upon their fiee deliberation. He had now
attended in respectful obedience to the order of the
House, whose commands, when justifiable, he would
always obey. The Speaker himself, with all his impar-
tiality and di,nity, had felt it difficult to act as a judge of
the court 'of honour into whiCh the House was consti-
tWine itself. An attrinl:t had even been n.ade to ingraft
%his speech a pas,a,!e from a leading article of the
Times. As urneiuber of this House i.e pioie:ited, in the
the People of Englaad, and relused to pleat- at
their tribunal.

Sir J. GRAHAM said, that as he had not recorded the
same denial,of the charge against himself which had been
rut in by Mr. Hogg with reference to the charge against
him, he would do so now, before he ret red from the pre-
sent debit!. Wi.h reference to the affair of Mr. Mott,
he had, upon careful search, been wholly unable to find
a y trace of any written or of any verbal communication
cen himself or from the Poor Law Commissioners to
Mr. Mott on the subj,ct of the Ke,ghly union. He re-
peated, therefore, that Mr. Ferrand had made an erro-
neous assertion in saying that he had influenced a corn-
niissi ner to make a false report for the purpose of
crnshing a member, and then dismissed the poor tool of
his fa'Tications. Mr. Mutt's dismissal was owing to cir-
cumstances quite unconnected with the- Keighly union ;
and if a minister had been guilty of such corruptconduct,
the very consciousness of it would prrbablv have deterred
him from the dismissal of the " tool" employed by him.
With respect to the accusation of having influenced Mr.
Hogg to displace Mr. Walter, he would say that be was
much misunderstood. in being represented to enter-
tain any anxiety for Mr. Walter's removal. But being
thus accused of an undue attempt in this matter, he
claimed from the justice of the house.that he might beeither
proved guilty or acquitted.
Mr. J AMES WORTLEY was disposed to make some al-
lowance for the surprise upon Mr. Ferranti in Mr. Roe-
buck's sudden question ; and considered that Mr. Fer-
rand's charge did not bear the meaning put upon it. Mr.
Ferranti did not mean that Sir J. Graham had suborned
Mr. Mott to falsify a report, but only that Sir J. Gra-
ham had pressed Mr. Mott for a report, which turned out
to be substantially a false one. Nor did he believe Mr.
Ferranti to have meant that Sir J. Graham had employed
any actual interference in the business of the Nottingham
Committee.
Mr. FERRAND made no explanation.
Sir It. PEEL was beginning to explain that he had been
no volunteer in these proceedings, when
The SPEAKER culled on Mr. Ferrand to withdraw from
the house during the debate, which he did, Mr. Hogg
following.
Sir R. PEEL resumed. His own impression had been,
that the matter was one of which it would be best to take
no notice ; hut notice having been taken, it was now for
the house to decide how they would deal with it. He
could not adopt Mr. Wortley's construction. He argued
that in both the charges the plain meaning of Mr. Fer-
rand was to convey an imputation of corruption. Were
it otherwise, what could be easier than for Mr. Ferrand
to disclaim that meaning ? The charge against Sir J.
Graham was not like those sometimes made against the
house in general : it was a specific allegation against an
individual. He presumed that the house would think it
expedient now to decide this matter. If Mr. Ferrand had
said he wished for the opportunity to prove his charges,
it might have been expedient to postpone any further pro-
ceeding until after inquiry; but this Mr. Ferrand had de-
clined. Ile would now, therefore, propose resolutions
purporting that (the two members accused having denied
those charges, and Mr. Ferrand having admitted that he
had used the words ascribed to him) the house is of opinion
that the charges are wholly unfounded and calumnious,
and do not in the slightest degree affect the honour and
character of the accused. As to anything ulterior, he did
not think it necessary to treat Mr. Ferrand's conduct as
a breach of privilege. Enough would be done by resolu-
tion that the charges were unfounded and calumnious, and
for this course there were precedents.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE proposed that Mr. Ferrand should
be called in, and interrogated whether he wished for an
opportunity to substantiate his charges.
Sir R. PEEL observed, that Mr. Ferrand bad absolutely
challerred their tribunal.

Mr. F. FRENCH said Mr. Ferrand had disclaimed any
in'ention of imputing actual corruption. He thought it
not conducive to the dignity of the house that the matter
should go further ; and proposed an amendment of a sati-
rical kind, reflecting on Lord Stanley for expressions used
by him against his former colleagues, in reference to the
" thimble-rig."
This amendment was not seconded ; and Sir R. Peel's
resolutions were adopted.

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