The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-03-05 00:00:00

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Chese jurymen lived from the assize
11 excuse for their non-attendance. .

Ve such eredence as they thoughtine
at Would they say to gm statement
sters had received Boni good authors
hot expecied that any jurors would i
tend the next assizes at Kilkennt
imidation of jurors. He would De'
nds upon the intimidation of witn
'orMed the houSe that many witne,,
to quit the Queen's county on accono`
idence before the special commissierl
read a long list of cases in which 13e'
xen intimidated, but in so indistinct,
is words were only half heard in the
which he was called on to establish 11
measure which ought to be adopted ,U
remedy the defects of the ordinary la
ft would be necessary for him to eel'i
e main provisions of the bill, in order
I to the grievances of which ha compl'l!
alculated to protect the loyal and the
itted that the most severe and objeel
'as that part of it 'which did away with;
: this was absolutely necessary to pr.!'
on from saving criminals from conO
evidence indisputably warranted a eOl,l
uggestions to get rid of this clause ,
who, though they admitted the neCe
ve measure, objected to the trial of 0.0
iis bill without the intervention of a .1'

nilitary tribunal, as compared with a t 5
I a jury in criminal cases, was not a o,`
a ordinary times ; but he had heard i
used instead of this military tribunal, 4"
se suggestions a military tribunal weis.
de. It had been suggested that a Patti
t round the country to try these dist
without the assistance of a jury. Now,
the habituating the people to this new
'ithout the intervention of ajury would
and, as a precedent on the statute-bo°
the mode of trial suggested in the pree!
ion was, that instead of a judge of ase`
n standing, appointed by the Crowu,
without the intervention of ajury. Ile
tion was even still more objectionnd,
g a judge to act without the assistao4
tit that the proposal to give the Cr
ing ds judges barristers, who might ma'.
ping-stone to future promotion, was l'.
.oposal to give it the power of appoiu,
beyond the hope of promotion, to to.
.se new tribunals. He admitted that
an unconstitutional exercise of pow
ttempted, in a measure of this kind,.
irse as would accustom men to look at
ithout disgust, they would inflict a gr!,
ountrv, for they would leave it in the P°
such.' a measure more easily when the
s urgent than at present, and when r
be adopted without injury. The other
referred to Whitefeet outrages, was tb
tended to prevent signals from being
se who made signals to warn the neig
ce were moving. The provisions of
adopted from those of the law for the
. These provisions were undoubtedly
the accused party to prove a negative''
ike the signals for a malicious or sediti'
however, been adopted in the also,
t be blamed as an unconstitutional inn°
I indeed the only part of the bill which,
ole of Ireland,—for the provisions vi'l
;cribing were only to extend to those
trages were actually Doing on, and wh,,,,
imed,—was nothing but a renewal of v"
ct. This part of it would extend to the
I been argued on the other side that th
ween the political agitation and the
31and. Some hon. gentlemen had eve
tat the existence of political agitation
ns of preventing these outrages frog
atlemen making the most violent and
agitating the country by fanciful stat)
;:h did not exist, and by exaggerated
!s which did exist, thought that they C''
t which they thus created, by ending
reb pretences about their love of social.
) have the King's peace preserved in/
night that they could thus easily soo
y had thus industriously irritated, the/.
lure, and must be blind to the march
I ignorant of the accumulating force,
t. The hon. and learned member for
erted that political agitation would put
, and" had more than once insinuated
put them down. He should be sorry
nan, and he would do the hon. and to
the justice to say that he (Lord Altho
t. He believed that if the hon. member Of
tat power, he would long since have es
the country which he professed to love se
I to contend, that the existence of s'
eets of Ireland was most objectionable
As they were to be made use of as a .
F not be used as a means of intluenci',
ers in that house ? 'When gentlemen.f,
had already been made to these associrj
uncing individual members of Parliano;
, cause of their country (hear, hear,)
tat never was there any institution
required the careful superintendence °,
would undoubtedly hear many declan9,
iberty which no man in that house
et ; but was it a state of liberty whick
ying ? Was it not rather a state of to
d even anarchy, utterly imcompatible
Iv was not a mere name, its benefits
de, and were seen in the protection w
the security which it conferred upon
further observations, the noble lord
iat the bill be read a third time.
lad listened to the noble lord's sta ,
convinced of the justice and policy 0!
lon it. Had ministers given the or
v a fair trial before they proposed the
experiment of the present bill? The*
tly bound to do so before they called(
lye a whole nation of the benefits coi
liberty. (Hear.) Why not, he repe
,ribunals a fair trial, before adopting
tires as the abolition of trial by jury
at were the tender mercies which a •
ich would prevail over the fears of
vil jurisdiction ? Was it the tender
aess who refusetLto give.such answers
feel disposed to receive—that is to
rirtence, saying that " he had' no evideO
or three months ? He would propo 1
noble lord's motion. He could assurti
ring so he had no feeling of hostility
government collectively, to indulger,
induce the noble lord to pause ere ite,.;
;overnment, and, as it might be, that
:ereuce to a measure which no honest 0
bout alarm and regret. The right ,t
d with moving, as an amendment, thol
ime on that day fortnight.
wholly opposed to the noble lord's mull
t would aggravate the ills it was intenul
hat, it would fail in attaining the 1
-end contemplated by its framers.
eluded a speech of considerable force,,
,st way to prevent immoderate desires
t demands enforced, was to grant i°
requests of justice.
...,LI
supported the motion of the noble le.-,
,ty of the 'government was to give thelel o
ed protection. If that were not afto
e be exacted. ,

that in supporting' the amendment oil
Lambeih, he did so not from an/
neat, but to the measure itself,
ad declared to be arbitrary -and despO,
EY supported the motion, and depro,
r to agitate Ireland.
3 of the agitators, wished to make 1111
whole cause of all the. proceedings was
invent itself; and their after-vengeance
by the fact, that the people had, in s
Linen, and not those whom they justly I
r enemies of the country. The
thing to do with those who now c
en paid their court to Catholics—who a
yalty of the yeomanry, and then excl
; to answer theirown purposes—to
f office. All the efforts that might V.
people 'of Ireland of their just rights-!f,
might have recourse to gagging