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the Pope ; the Popo alone directly appointed by Christ_
This was the assumption in those days, and it answered
their purpose, and built up strongly the absolute supre-
macy of Rome. It answered a purpose while men had no
Bibles to read ; but at the time of the Reformation, when
men had Bibles to read, they found that the apostles of
the Lord Jesus Christ had said, " The powers that be are
ordained of teed ;" that government was an ordinance of
God. It showed that the civil magistrate was at least co-
equal with the ecclesiastical, as far as the origin was con-
cerned, that both were ordinances of God. The Pope
could no longer claim that-his was the only authority from
Christ ; he could no longer say that he had a right to put
up or to put down kings, for the Truth said that God put
up kings as well as priests. In the discussions that took
place at the time of the Reformation, this truth was
damaging to the advocates of papacy, and how was it
met ? After this crisis and on this subject, the Jesuits
came to the rescue, and the Jesuits invented the lie, (I
can call it by no other name,) that the civil magistracy is
an ordinance of the people. This rescued in the argu-
ment, with many at least, the cause of Roine from the
damage which it was sustaining from the Reformers. It
was represented then, that still the priest was the only
divinely appointed power, that the king was appointed by
the people. Facts were appealed to, did not the people
set up their own king, and did not the people set up their
own government ? Just as if that interfered with the
other great fact, that when he is set up he is an ordinance
of God. (Hear, hear, hear.) Does not the moon affect
the tides, and are not the tides an ordinance of God, the
same as though there was no moon ? The agencies, the
instrumental secondary agencies, are equally His, and He
influences the people to give the kingdom to the man that
he hath chosen for it. This was the doctrine held by
Milton, who advocated the popular cause as far as
any man could advocate it, yet he repudiated the notion
that government was an ordinance of the people. He
said, (the original Latin quoted,)—`• As if the people
did not give the kingdom to those whom God has
appointed to govern." (Hear.) Be assured, sir, that the
distinction which I have just made, however littleit may
corn mend itself to the popular mind at first, lies at the root
of a great transition in society,—it lies at the opening of
the doors of our constitution. We have fallen practically
into the notion, our Radicals have the idea from the Je-
suits, that Government is an ordinance of the people. If it
be. all classes of the people have a right to share in it.
(Hear, hear.) If it be an ordinance of God, no man has a
right to share in it, but upon the principles of therevealed
Word of God, and that makes all the difference. If go-
vernment be an ordinance of the people, how can you re-
fuse or cut off from government any class of the people ?
On whet principle ? But if government be an ordinance
of God, and if God hath revealed the law, then you can,
and ought, and must consistently, unless you forsake that
law, refuse the seat of government, and refuse participa-
tion in legislation to those who reject the law of God.
(hear, and applause.) And this makes the difference.;.
and if the objection which some of our friends have urged
be sound at all, it is because the foundations of right go
vernment have given way amongst us, and we have prac-
tically adopted the Jesuit lie. (Applause.) Dr. M`Neile
next noticed the line of argument adopted by Mr. Mark
Phillips, to the effect " that there is common sense in
what the Pope has done ; but where is the sense of mak-
ing an outcry against it ? I could understand the mean-
ing of this outcry if it went a little further, if it said boldly
at once, we feel that Protestant argument cannot stand
the force of Catholic argument; only give Catholicism fair
play, and Protestantism must fall before it ; therefore keep
it down by main force." Of all the arguments advanced
in defence of this Aggression, this is the most cun-
ningly devised, and the most plausibly calculated to af-
fect the English mind', lovers as we are in this country of
fair play. And-it has affected many minds. Many good
and sincere men have been ensnared by it. (Hear.) In
reply to it we must remind Mr. Phillips that Protestant
argument is confined to words of reason and persuasion ;
but what he calls Catholic argument is not. It deals
in practical measures- of intimidation, and coercion,
and violence. It denounces from the altar, as a wretch
whom it is a Christian's duty to destroy, the Pro-
testant missionary or Scripture reader, thereby placing
his life in danger. The Catholic argument includes ex-
clusive dealing ; and here, sir,. I should like just to say
one word to the gentlemen in this, town who may be here
present, that they have a practical duty in this Pro-
testant question in the protection of their own Protestant
workmen. (Hear, hear, and loud applause.) Are the Pro-
testant merchants of this town aware of the exclusive deal-
ing of their Popish lumpers and, warehousemen ? (Loud
cheering from the gallery.) Aro the Protestant merchants
of this town aware of the fact that these warehousemen
will not give a dey'i work-to a Protestant? (Hear hear.)
and a voice, "It is true,") Are they aware of another
fact, are they aware that if occasionally, as once recently,
a Protestant was employed among a set of Roman Catho-
lics, as soon as they found that, they all struck and left
the work until the Protestant was turned off? (Shame.)
Let me tell these same Protestant gentlemen of this town
that they have duties at home in relation to this ques-
tion, and that talk is not enough. Practical measures
should be adopted. lam not justifying idleness or care-
lessness on the part of Protestant workmen, but we have
a right to suppose them to be equally- good workmen,—
(A voice: "A deal better ;")—and I will denounce ex-
clusive dealing. The exclusive dealing. by which Roman
Catholic converts are injured in Ireland finds its counter.
part here in England. Having next contended that if
Dr. Wiseman was protected by law in circulating his
" mummeries," and in preaching popery in London, Dr.
Achilli had a right to the same privilege in Rome, the
speaker endeavoured to show the dire results of the mis-
taken liberality of the English Legislature, even in this
country. Ronianism, long encouraged• by the British
Parliament, has, with characteristic gratitude, turned and
attacked that very Parliament with the weapons itself
supplied. It has spread confusion and dismay amongst
our legislators. Availing itself adroitly-of circumstances,
it has destroyed one government, hindered the formation
of another, and now it is tolerating, on, sufferance, and,
doubtless, for a consideration, what scarcely deserves
the name of a Government. (Loud.. applause.) Such
is the arbiable position in which England is to be exhibited
to the visiting world in 1851. The iron! has entered more
closely still into the heart of the aristocracy and fellow-
commoners of England. Family after family is broken
up. Parents and children, husbands and wives,' brothers
and sisters, friends and friends. are torn asunder. The
latest illustration of • my argument is supplied by the hon.
member for the Isle of Wight. His- father was member
for the island. He was a Liberal.. He would have Ro-
manism in the State ; and God said to him, " Yes, and
you shall have it in the family." His-eidest son, the pre-
sent member, his heir, on whom his large estates are en-
tailed, has become a Romanist. This is too much, and
now the old man is drinking in bitterness of the cup he
filled for himself. (Sensation.) Then the speaker went
on to argue that the endowment of Maynooth had practi-
cally tended to supply priests for the preaching of Popery
in England ; and having done so, he came to the political
bearings of the question, urging upon the electors the
duty which devolved upon them in the present crisis. A
town like this ought not to expose itself to an extempora-
neous movement for candidates in, a moment of excite-
ment ; a town like this ought to know its men, and be
prepared with its n: en ; and ought to make no mistake.
(Applause.) It is of great consequence that we should
have men about whom there is-no mistake. Is this a
fitting place—is this a fitting occasion to make allusion to
such men ? (" Yes l.") I think so. (Cries of " Hors-
fall !" and loud applause.) So far well ; there is no mis-
take at all about Horsfall. (Loud cheering.) And yet
we have asked him for no pledge ; we don't go and ask
Mr. Horsfall to say what he will vote for or against. It
is not a pettifogging system of pledges; we look for a
straightforward, honest man. (Applause.) Well, now,
sir, another gentleman is much named in this town, and
has a hold upon the opinions, and sentiments, and fa-
vouritism of a very considerable part of the constituency
of this town, and that is Lord John Manners. (Hear,
hear.) Now take care that there be no mistake. (Hiss-
ing and-cries of " He's a Puseyite !") Now, we don't ask
pledges; we don't go and ask.the noble lord what he will
and will not vote for. I hate, as I said before, that petti-
fogging course; but let Lord John Manners, if he wishes
to be united with Mr. Horsfall as a candidate for this town,
coma down here and show himself. (Hear.) Let him
come on this platform and meet me. Let him speak out.
(Load applause.) I hale been asked to meet him in pri-
vate, and ask him questions in private. I declined. (Ap-
P. • iause ) It .is not a private conference which should
grtide any public movement. Here we are all straight-
forward and above-board, and open-handed. (Applause.)
.Let a man make known what be is; let a man speak out;
let him throw himself.into his speech, and then we shall
know him. Now, let us get up areal Protestant meeting
—(loud applause)—and if Lord John Manners .is deter-
mined to be a candidate, let him stand here and speak;
let him tell us what. he thinks of the Pope, and of the
Cardinal ; let him tell us what should be done, with this
in fact, let him deliver himself here
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the electors are " shilly-shally," if half-measures are
adopted, and no determination be come to as to candi-
dates, you will: have wrong men pitched upon—plumpers
here, no votes there ; and in the confusion of the camp,
and the breaking up of Protestant parties, who knows but
that the friends and abettors of Dr. Wiseman might step
in to misrepresent Liverpool after all ? (Great cheering.)
Let these things, then, be carefully considered ; let us
consider- that we are in no oreinary times ' • that this is
not a common election ; that the interests of England are
staked in parliament ; let us.bear this in mind, that the
history of England for the nest four or five years-is fraught
with weal or woe for generations yet unborn. Oh! that
the movement taking place in the land were-sanctified by
the• only true Power on which man can rest with security
of aaccess !—then we might rejoice that all would still be
well,—then we might be glad and rejoice unfeignedly in
the assurance that the land, as it has been said is awake,
that—

Old England's awake\ she is startled at length,
Aud majestically spanks in the pride of her strength.
There's a voice in the air from her millions of men,
Proclaiming her ripe for the conquest then.
There's a voice CM the air—its detilsolemn tone
Has come from the cottage, has come from the throne,
Aud the swell 4f its chorus proclaims to the world
That the standard of Protestant truth is tudfurled.
The land is awake from the sea to the sea,
From the shore to the shore she resolves to be free;
She resolves to proclaim that no Cardinal's tread
Shall befoul the green sod where our martyrs have bled t
Yes, England, no boasting ; be wise, kiss the rod ;
Confess your transgressions, walk humbly with God
Your watchwords be these, while a breath
you can draw,
The Saviour, the Bible, the Queen, and the Law
The rev. gentleman sat down amid the most prolonged
applause.
The Rev. R. NEWSTEAD, (Wesleyan minister,) moved,
and Mr. INmAtv seconded, the next resolution That,
considering the constitution and rules of the House of
Commons, and the power possessed by an anti-English
faction to obstruct any Government, if parties be as nearly
balanced as usual, this meeting desire to impress upon
themselves, and earnestly to invite the attention of their
fellow-sabjects, to the okblic duty of holding as secondary,