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ed that he should move
le sum, when the civil con-

tingencies out of which it had been paid were moved.
The House having gone into committee of supply, and
nd expenses of the Foreign-

the vote for the salai
office having been put,
Mr. D'ISTLAELI pro

bring the whop
consideration.

Lord PALMERST

brought forward
Lord J. Rus
statement relativ

d in condemnatory terms to

of the government under

g replied seriatim to the allegations
;he hon. member.

_ ly to Mr. Grogan, made a
new Queen's Colleges in Ireland,
iv stating that the course re-
had been to make

in rey

vat.ions 1
oeutly taken by the Lord Licutenan.

these institutions as effective as it was originally proposed
they should be. They were intended to be such as per-
sons of all religious denominations might resort to, and

ea.l 1

On the question of resuming the committee of supply,
Mr. URQUHART moved, as an amendment, "That from
the correspondence laid upon the table in reference to the
suppression of the slave trade in Mussulman countries, it
appeared that her Majesty's servants bad adopted pro-
ceedings calculated to aggravate the horrors of the traffi
and to alienate from this country the
governmer -el nation,. •

good will

of the

anu .o interfered with
an able reply from Lord PALMF-

observations on the subject of the means at present to
_ _ . _
-on of the African s.

by this country for ti
trade,

suppre

The amendmo
house went into committee, w
office was again put, which
on foreign policy, in whit
LACY EVANS, Mr. HUME

put and negatived, and the
'hen the vote for theForeign-
aye rise to a further debate
h Mr. MACGREGOR, Sir DE
P. HOWARD, Mr. UR-

QUHART, Mr. B. OSBORNE. Lord PALMERSTON, Lord
GEORGE BENTINCK, and Sir J. WALsu, took part ; at
the termination of which the vote was agreed to, as were
various others, after some discussion on most of them,
and the house, having resumed, adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS

'THURSDAY

On the motion for the further consideration of the re-
port of the Corrupt Practices at Elections Bill,
Some conversation took place between Sir H. HALFORD
and Lord J. RUSSELL relative to the appointment of
a subordinate officer of the Post-office in the county of
Leicester, upon the recommendation of Mr. Gardner, the
rejected member for the borough of Leicester. In the
course of it his lordship remarked, that if Lord Clanri-
zarde had known that the late election for that borough
had been made void in consequence of the bribery prac-
tised at it by the agents of Mr. R. Gardner, he ought not
to have listened to their recommendation. He therefore
regretted that through inadvertence Lord Clanricarde had
taken the recommendation of Mr. R. Gardner and his
agents, but he was convinced that his lordship had not
done so with any view of encouraging corrupt practice
the borough of Leicester.
After a short speech from Colonel SIBTHORP,
Sir C. BULLER, Mr. H. DRUMMOND, and Mr.
LINOS made some observations on the distribution of the
patronage of the Government in the Post-office and the
Stamp-office at Shoreham, at Cirencester, and at some
village in the county of Surrey, which induced Mr. TUF-
NELL to enter into a brief but very satisfactory vindication
of the proceedings of the Treasury in that respect.
The report was then brought up and agreed to ; after
which the bill was recommitted and several clauses added
to it. The bill, as amended, was reported and ordered to
be read a third tir '

to-morrow

Lord PALMERSTON, in moving the second reading of
the Diplomatic Relations with the Court of Rome Bill,
observed, that the grounds for this measure were so sim-
ple and so much upon the surface that it was not requisite
for him to enter into any abstruse or refined argument to
show its necessity. Doubts, and doubts only, existed,
whether, by the interposition of certain old acts of Parlia-
ment, it was lawful for the Government of this country to
hold diplomatic intercourse with the Court of Rome.
Those doubts arose on the interposition of the word
" communion ;" but it appeared to him that the meaning
of the law prohibiting any " communion" of the Sove-•
reign with the Court of Rome was simply this—that the
Sovereign of England must be a Protestant. The " com-
munion" prohibited was only spiritual communion, and
was not the interchange of political and diplomatical com-
munications. As doubts, however, were entertained on
that point, it was deemed necessary to introduce a bill
authorising diplomatic intercourse and communication
with the Court of Rome. He then proceeded to obviate
the objections raised against it, and to explain the advan-
tages which were likely to accrue from passing it. After
showinz that the presence of an English Ambassador at
the Court of Rome and of a Roman Ambassador at the
Court of St. James's could not injure the faith of our So-
vereign, he proceeded to demonstrate that the want of in-
tercourse with the Court of Rome was injurious to our in-
terests ; for we could not now make any commercial treaty
with the Court of Rome to obtain for our merchants and
manufacturers those advantages which commercial treaties
afforded to them in every other part of the world. As no
constitutional danger could arise from the enactment of
this measure, and as great commercial advantages would
arise from passing it into law, he had no hesitation in re-
commending it to the support of the house.
Mr. C. ANSTEY had expected to hear some explanation
of the bill itself and of the objects which it was to accom-
plish ; but not a word on either of those points had the
noble lord uttered. After analyzing the bill clause by
clause, and condemning them all one after another, the
hon. member concluded by moving, that it be read a
second time that day six months.

seconded the amendment.
complained, like Mr. Anstey, of the
insufficiency of the speech which Lord Palmerston had
made that`evening for the introduction of so important a
change into the constitution of England, and almost pitied
his lordship for having been reduced to the painful neces-
sity of pleading as his reasons for this bill the importance
of consulting the commercial interests of England in Italy
and the increased facility which it would give to British
subjects to obtain the construction of a railroad over the
Pontine marshes fctr abridging their communications with
jncha. lie called en the house tp reflect at wbitt time

Mr. URQLTHA
Sir R. INGLI

nis bill was brought in, who was Pope, and what the
Court of Rome now was. The bill was introduced into
this house on the 10th of August, at, a time when the
-Pope had'vi/oltifed 811-his obligations to Austria, the chief
benefactor of the Papacy, when the Pope had been unable
to protect the Austrian Ambassador from the attacks of
the rabble of Rome, and when he had absolutely blessed
the arms of the soldiery whom he sent to attack the Aus-
trian forces ; and all this, too, at a period when. England
was more alive than ever to the rampant and aggressive
character of the Church of Rome against the Protestantism
of the world. He did not object to enter into negotiations
with the temporal Sovereign of Rome, no matter what his
religion might be. He did not object to recognize -the
civil governor of Rome, even though he should be another
Rienzi ; but he did object to recognize the spiritual
governor of Rome and of all the Roman Catholic popula-
tion of the world. The Pope had millions of subjects in
this country, and he would not give to the Pope the direct
means of issuing his powerful edicts to them without any
restraint. He had another objection to this bill—it nei-
ther conciliated the affections of the Protestants nor satis-
fied the wishes of the Roman Catholics, who in March
last had densunced it to the Pope in the strongest lan-
guage. Besides, the result of the diplomatic communi-
cations of other Protestant states, especially Prussia,

with the Pope was most unsatisfactory.
Several other members then addressed the house, after
which the second reading of the bill was carried by a ma-
jority of 125 to 46.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-FRIDAY

In reply to a question from Lord BROUGHAM,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had no objection to lay
upon the table the answer of the Austrian government to the
dispatch of the British government, dated the 11th September,
18t7.

Lord Baouotipm, under these circumstances, contented
himself with moving for the documents, intimating his opinion
that, as Charles Albert had retreated into his own dominions,
and as every inch of land lie had invaded had been recovered by
the Russians, Italy was precisely in the statu quo in which it
stood before the commencement of the war, and any interfer-
ence on the part of France or England was wholly uncalled for.

HOUSE OF COMMONS

Fax DAY

Lord D. STEWART, in reply to a question from Dr. Bownixo,
announced that it was not his intention to proceed with the
Odd Fellows Societies Bill during the present session
In reply to a question from Mr. TURNS
Lord J. RUSSELL announced that I
Charity Trusts Regulation Bill
would also withdraw the Chan(

would postpone the
nt session, and

I. the prey
ry Proceei

;s Regulation

On the motion for going into committee of supply.
Mr. CHRISTIE drew attention to the proposed grant of Van-
couver's Island to the Hudson's Bay Company, a proceeding
which ite strongly ceprecated.
Mr. GLADSTONE said the grant ought not to be made until
an inquiry was instituted into the manner in which the Hud•
son's Bay Company had acted under their own charter, and
until it-should be ascertained if they had taken into their own

s the power of inflicting, capital punishmen
were charged with having laid it down

s a princi

when the Indians killed any of the servants of the corn-
they would have blood for blood, and that, too, without a

trial, and it was said that one individual had actually been put
to death without trial, in accordance with this principle. This
power was exercised in direct contrav,ntion to the 12th section
of the act of Parliament which particularly prohibited the ex-
ercise of any such power. There should also be an inquiry
into the manner in which the Hudson's Bay Company exerci-
sed their monopoly. He could not see why the Indians should
be obliged to bring their commodities to one purchaser only,
who was to fix the price of their goods. The company, how-
.

ever, conaucten tne business on a principle so penurious th
the savages were sometimes starved, and not unfrequently com-
pelled io resort to cannibalism to preserve their lives, though
not cannibals by nature or by practice, while the company was
receiving ..tlOOO per cent. in the British markets for the furs
they purchased from the Indians for a trifle. He wished to be
understood, when he spoke of the Indians, that he was not al-
luding to those on the borders of the United States, for those
Indians received a fair price for their skins ; but those who
were entirely under the tyranny of this irresponsible body, in
which the Government seemed to place the most implicit con-
fidence. With respect to the moral character of the company,
he would observe that, although they had divided 70 per cent.
during the greater part of half a century on a capital that had
been nine times multiplied, they had never erected a single place
of worship, and had discouraged, as far as possible, those mis•
sionaries who had attempted to propagate religion in their ter-
ritories. In many instances threats were resorted to, with the
view of intimidating the natives from listening to the missiona-
ries, and those who would not listen were rewarded. The right
hon. gentleman stated several other objections, and expressed a

111 r. C. BULLER, in deference to the course pursued by the
government, said that the grant was but a conditional one for
eleven years, during which there would be a representative go-
vernment in Vancouver's Island. If, therefore, the company
should be tempted to exercise any arbitrary power, the legisla-
ture would very soon transfer their privileges to the local go-
vernment, to be exercised for the benefit of the colony. At the
expiration of eleven years, the British government would be at
liberty to resume possession of the island, on paying to the
company the expenses incurred for building and Improving the
colony, or allow the company to continue in possession under
further arrangements.

Mr. HualE went at some length into the question, deprecat-
ing in the strongest terms the proposed grant, and concluded
by moving. a resolution to the effect that a petition be presented
to her Majesty, praying that the government of Vancouver's
Island should not be handed over to the Hudson's Bay Com-
pany until the complaint of the Red River Indians should be
heard and considered.

Mr. CHRISTIE rt
which Mr. Wyki, I

ed, and after some further discussion, in
.i. Russell, and Mr. Goulburn took part,
-•'s motion was negatived by

1, when Mr. Hur

a majority of 76 to 58

On the ;:ote for salaries, &c., to professors of.theuniversities
of Oxford and Cambridge being put, Mr. B OSBORNE opposed
the motion : the committee dividing—for the grant, 96; against,
20 • majority, 76;—when the Chairman reported progress, and

On the c

tion that the Corrupt Practices at Elections Bill
e read a third time, Mr. T. HounousE moved that it be read
a third time that day six months. Atter some discussion, on
a division the third reading was carried by a majority of 67—
the numbers, 80 to 13; the bill passed.

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