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HOUSE OF LORDS.---FRIDAY.

Petitions were presented by several noble lords for additional
church accommodation in Scotland.
The Marquis of LANsoowE moved for copies of several re-
turns relative to criminal proceedings against offenders of 1834,
and for the reports of the commissioners of public works and the
county presentments in Ireland in the year 1834.

TIIE LORD LIEUTENANT'S ENTRY INTO DUBLIN.
The Earl of RooErc, in rising to present a petition from Skib-
bereen. praying for support to the established church in Ireland,
took occasion to allude to the procession which had attended the
entry of his majesty's viceroy into Dublin. Alter describing
the procession, his lordship said how the prime minister of the
crown could look upon tins as a lawful assembly he could not
conceive. (Hear, hear.) If he did so—if he thought that those
who appeared at processions such as these should not be prose-
cuted and punished, then he (the Earl of Roden) should, on
the part of the protestant people of Ireland, demand an equal
degree of justice whet.' they went forth with processions—when
they carried their orange flags, not inscribed with the emblems
of
extended
symbols of loyalty. If tolerance were
to those with theosesvh
o attended the Earl of Alulgrave—ii toler-
ance were extended to the creatures of Mr. O'Connell, then
would he contend that the power of the law should be equally
kept back from those loyal .individuals to whom he had referred.
For his part he was of opinion that less danger would arise from
allowing those processums to show themselves °pent), and boldly
than to endeavour to suppress 'them by legislative enactments.
lle had come tn that opinion because, as it appeared to him,
more animosity had beeu manifested since the law had pasied
fur putting down those, processions than existed when they were
allowed. to show themselves without molestation. He now
claimed, after the declaration of the noble viscount, for the pro-
testauts of Ireland, for the orangemen of Ireland, that the mea-
sure of justice which bad been granted to their opponents should
be exteuded equally to them. • (Hear, bear.)

-.Lord 1614th:11N g defended the conduct of thelord lieuteUant.
Il is lordship denied that any violation of the law had been com-
mitted.

The.Ea.rl of HADDINGTON made a few observations as to the
display made when he went to the theatie as Lord Lieutenant
of Ireland, being of a character totally different from that of
Lord Mulgrave'.s entry into Dublin. Ile disapprove/I.°f it, but
considered it a spontaneous manifestation of feeling, and not
calculated to lead to any breach of the peace.
The Earl of WicKLOW followed, in a speech of consider-
able warmth, in the course of which he said that the procession
was arrayed by a man who had been denounced by ministers
themselves id that house, and who had so far been complimented
as to have been alluded to in the King's speech. Afterreferring
to the late resignation of the Marquis Wellesley, his lordship
concluded by saying, let it be clearly demonstrated to the pr
testants of Ireland what the law really was; let. them distinct"
know (if such were the case) that the existing law, though it
clearly applied to orange processions, did not apply to others,
au interpretation which, he feared, they would be very slow to
credit.

The Marquis WELLESLEY said it was not his intention to en-
ter on the subject which had given rise to this discussion, how-
ever important it might be considered, and however anxious he
might be to express his disapprobation of party proceedings, and
still less was it his wish to call the attention of their lotdships to
that unfortunate subject, the resignation of the office which he
lately held. But this latter point having been alluded to by his
noble friend opposite, (if he might be allowed to call him so,)
this much he must say, in cotrection of what his noble friend
had stated, namely, " that his resignation was founded on intel-
ligence which he had received from Ireland, relative to the
entrance of Lord Mulgrave into Dublin," that he was totally
ignorant of the whole of the circumstances at the time when his
resignation took place. ( Hear, hear.) He had at the lime 'no.
knowledge of the matter whatever; and, therefore, he humbly
requested, whatever opinion their lordships might please to'form
on that event, to which some persons attached so much import-
ance, but to which he attached none, that their lordships would
not be led away by the supposition that it was connected with
any thing that had occurred on the occasion of the noble earl's
entranceinto Dublin. (Bear, hear.)
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY, as we understood, after com-
plimenting the noble marquis on the talents which he had
evinced ulailst he was viceroy of Ireland, expressed a doubt
whether his explanation would give satisfaction to those who
were connected with, and were consequently anxious for, the
welfare of Ireland. He said this more particularly after what
had appeared in the public journals, and what had transpired in
that house, with reference to the resignation of the noble mar-
quis. He had formerly alluded to that subject. He felt himself
in a situation to do so. He thought himself at liberty to state
what he had stated, in consequence of a communication which
he had'had with a noble and illustrious personage, who declared
that he had the fact (ruin the mouth of the noble marquis • him-
self. He was sorry that the noble marquis had made his state-
ment in the absence of that noble and illustrious personage;
but, as the noble marquis had addressed himself to the subject
of his resignation, he would give him an opportunity at any
time, on 1 uesday next for instance, to enter into Use causes
which had led to his resignation, and to afford some information
to their lordships on the subject.
The Marquis WELLESLEY repeated that his resignation had
nothing to do with the procession which accompanied the noble
earl. He again declared that he was ignorant of the circum-
stance attending it when he resigned. His information was
not so extensive as to put him in possession of every report
that appeared in a newspaper. He now wished to observe, that
he should not feel himself justified in eutering incidentally into
any explanation with respect to the motives which led to his re-
signation. (Hear, hear.) If their lordships were of opinion
that he ought to enter into such an explanation, then let him be
called on to do so distinctly, clearly, and in a regular manner.
(Hear, hear.) Let a proper inquiry take place as to the fact,
if their lordships thought the occasion was sufficiently import-
ant. (Hear, hear.) But without such a course was adopted,
he did not feel himself called on to give any explanation. He
should reserve his opinion on all public questions till the proper
time arrived for giving that opinion ; and then he should ex-
press it as an independent man, not being engaged in any con-
nexion that could in the smallest degree influence his decision.
(Hear.) He would not, however, come down there to answer
questions incidentally. When, however, questions were pro-
perly brought forward, he. would state his opinion o a them
fairly, having first considered them with independence, with in-
dustry, with diligence, and, he shoUld hope, with justice.
(Hear, hear.) He would not, however, state the grounds on.
which his resignation was made, except by the order of their
lordships, or in consequence of a formal inquiry. On that
principle he was most ready to act, and certainly he would not
decline any disclosure required of him, if the subject were in-
troduced in a regular manner.

The Earl of Wictcr.ow wished to know whether the reasons
that induced the noble marquis to resign were in any manlier
connected with recent appointments in Ireland ?
The Marquis WaLt.is.sLuv did not feel himself at all required
to answer that question.
The Earl of H A naownv understood the noble marquis to say
that his resignation was not owing to any thing that had passed
on the entrance of the lord-lieutenant into Dublin, because at
the time he resigned the noble marquis was ignorant of that
transaction; on that point he would not make a single observa-
tion. His noble friend near him (the Earl of Haddington),
with that delicacy which was consequent on the situation in
which he stood, had confined himself merely to the fact ad-
verted to by the noble viscount opposite; the noble viscount
had endeavoured to draw a parallel between the entry of the
lord-lieutenant into Dublin, and the reception of his noble
friend at the theatre. It did appear that an orange flag had
been suspended, no one knew by whom, over the box of his
noble friend in the theatre; and this, with strange inconsist-
ency, was compared with a procession formally promoted and
arranged by a person whom he could only mention as being
the only individual that had ever been held up to the reproba-
tion of the country from that place, (pointing to the throne.)
But, to mark the difference more strongly, a communication
had been made to the Castle of Dublin 6y an official person
connected with the trades' unions as to the particular hour at
which the lord-lieutenant was expected to land. (Hear, hear.)
They knew well the power of the individual who planned the
procession. Ile did not appear himself to take his place at the
head of it, for alleged reasons, which it was unnecessary for him
to notice; but perhaps he might have abstained from a feeling
that it would be more dignified for him to make his entrance
into the Castle of Dublin by proxy, than if he appeared himself
personally. (A laugh.) He was unwilling to say anv in
the absence of a noble person (Lord Mulgrave) whom ho had
always been disposed to look upon as a friend; but this he
woul4 declare,lhat he would rather have exposed himself to be
torn to pieces by that mob who accompanied the noble lord into
Dublin than have stooped to gratify their passions. (Hear,
hear.) Whether those processions were legal or illegal he
cared not ; but he was inclined to believe that the interpreta-
tion of the noble earl behind was correct. Such an exhibition
in the present case was highly dangerous, because it exhibited
the government of the country as if coming over to put itself at
the head of a party. (Hear, hear.) It was sufficient to dis-
turb and exasperate the feelings of the country. Such proceed-
ings, he thought, ought no longer to be tolerated, if they hoped
to secure peace and tranquillity for Ireland.
Lord Melbourne, Lord Farnham, Earl Fitzwilliam, the Earl
of Roden, the Duke cf Richmond. and the Marquis of Lans-
downe successively addressed the house, after which
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY asked if the noble viscount
had any objection to lay on the table a copy ofthe letter wtitten
by the Lord Lieutenant with respect to this procession, and a
copy of the instructions since transmitted to his lordship?
Viscount Met.eoceNte said there were no instructions. He
begged to take till Monday tb consider with respect to the other
question.
The Earl of Ron Est declared that his exertions had always
been directed to the preservation of peace in Ireland.
• The .Marquis of L tNSDOWNE presented a petition from Glas-
gow against a grant of money to the Scotch church.—Adjourned
to Monday.