The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1835-03-20 00:00:00

CANADA.

Mr. P. M STEWART presented a petition from the inhabi-
tants of Montreal, complaining of many evils oppressing that
colony.
THE ESTABLISHED CHURCH (IRELAND.)
On the question that the house resolve itself into a committee
of supply.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, having been informed that a special re-
port would be made iu the course of next week by the local
commissioners who had examined the parishes of eight dioceses
in Ireland, pat it to the house whether it would not be better for
him to postpone his motion respecting the church of Ireland?
He would now move for the produc.ion without delay of any re-
ports which might be received from the commissioners, and if it
should meet with the concurrence of the house, he would
afterwards pospone his motion till the 30th instant, for which
day he would move a call of the house.
Sir R. PEEL said that he must tail upon the noble lord to give
notice of the motion ; (hear,) it was one which ought not to be
made as a matter of course. The question was whether incoin-
plete reports should be made from the commissioners. Up to
the present moment the government had received no report from
the commissioners, and it did not appear that government pos-
sessed the same means of ascertaining from the commissioners
the course which would be taken by them as the noble lord had.
(Hear, hear.) Without entering into any discussion now, he
begged the house to have the goodness to observe that the ques-
ting, they had to decide was whether they would proceed to affirm
a general resolution on a partial report ? Wnether or not the
dioceses referred to by the noble lord had been examined he
coti.d not state; but he must object to the motion being made
without notice. (Hear.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he had no objection to comply
with the suggestion of the right hon. baronet, and give notice of
his motion. At the same time he must say, that in order to
avoid any appearance of surprise he had communicated to the
right lion. Secretary for Ireland and the right hon. Secretary
for the Home Department, his intention to submit such emotion,
and if he had heard any objection offered he would not have
brought it forward. He would now withdraw the motion, and
-give notice for to-morrow.

AGRICULTURAL, DISTRESS.
Ae Marquis of CHANDOS asked the Chancellor of the Ex-
chehuer when it was probable that he would announce his plan
for the relief of the agricultural interest?
Sir It. PERI., on rising, was received with a cry of `-` Hear"
by the opposition. He said he-was pleased to find that he had
given so much satisfaction to hou. gentlemen opposite, even be-
fore he had opened his mouth. ( Hear.) lie might be excused
for looking upon that circumstance as a happy augury. in an-
swer to the question proposed by the noble marquis, he must
repeat what he had stated to litany gentlemen—namely, that
with respect to all matters relating to the remission off`
and fiscal regulations it was better that he should make a full
statement of his intentions on the subject at the earliest possible
period after the termination of the financial year, when he
should know with sufficient accuracy fur practical purposes
what would be the amount of the demands for the public service,
and what the probable amount of surplus. This statement he
expected to make early in the next month, which would allow
hon. members, who might object to the views he might then lay
before the house, sufficient time to adopt what course they might
think advisable. The house would recollect that it was only in
December that he had assumed his duties, and taking into con-
sideration the manner in which he had since then been occupied,
it really was but fair that he should have time to make up his
mind upon several important points connected with the finances
of the country. (Hear, hear.) He thought that he should best
consult the public interest by declining to inal:e auy premature
disclosures.

EMBASSY TO ST. PF.TERSBURGH.
Lord J. RUSSELL begged to ask the right hon. baronet whe-
ther, after what had passed in that house on Friday, it was the
intention of his Majesty's government that the Marquis of Lon-
donderry shauld proceed to St. Petersburgh as ambassador
from his Majesty to the Emperor of Russia ?
Sir R. PEEL said, that he would answer the noble lord's ques-
tion without the slightest reserve. About an hour since he re-
ceived ftum his noble friend the Secretary of State fur foreign
affairs a letter, in which his noble friend informed him, that he
had received a communication from the noble marquis referred
to, stating that he felt that, after the discussion which took
place in the House of Commons on Fiiday. last, his power of
public usefulness as his Majesty's representative at the Court of
St. Petersburgh must be greatly impaired, am 4 that therefore
he considered it to be an act of public duty to relinquish the si-
tuation for wnich he had been destined. He (Sir R. Peel) was
bound to state that the step taken by the noble marquis .vas
entirely the iesuit of his own judgmeut, and that its adoption
had not been suiicited or suggested either directly or indirectly
by any member of the government. (Hear, hear.)
A lengthened conversation ensued, in the course of which the
Speaker observed that the question before the house was, that.
the house should'resot ve itself into a committee of supply.
Sir It. PEEL, in reply to a question, said that he believed that
the late government had inteudel to build a place of residence
at Constantinople for the British ambassador there, with a view
to economy. An otlicer of engineers had been sent out, and had
collected a great deal of additional information. The subject
required consideration; but in delaying to give an opinion with
respect to it, he wished not to be understood us desiring to cast
the slightest blame on the late government.
Mr. IlusmE inquired whether any arrangement had been made
with the American government as to the erection of lighthouses?
Lord ASHLEY was understood to say that he was unable at
the present moment to answer the questions just asked, but he
promised to direct his attention to the subjects alluded to.
Mr. FRENCH wished to know whether it was the intention of
the government to call on the clergy of Ireland to repay the
instalments that had been advanced to them ?
Sir It. PEEL said nothing was so desirable in Ireland as that
the government should set the example of obedience to the law.
The government therefore had issued circular letters to the
clergy, as that was aproceeding required by law. On Friday
next his right hun. friend the Secretary for Ireland would bring
forward a measure with the view of settling the tithe question ;
and on that occasion the course iutended to be pursued by go-
vernment, with respect to the matter alluded to by the butt.
member, would be fully explained.
In answer to a question,
Mr. GouLatiaN said that the poor-law commissioners in Ire-
land had divided their inquiry into two branches, the first of
which had reference to the present mode of relieving pauperism,
and its moral results; and the second to the causes of pauper-
ism. Respecting the first branch, the investigations of the
commissioners were concluded; and they had already made
some progress in the second, but they could not make a general
report until the whole inquiry had terminated.
NAVY ts-risiATs.s.
The question being again put that the house resolve itself lido
a committee of supply,
Mr. HUME asked whether the noble lord was prepared to lay
on the table any of the supplemental statements which were
asked for the other evening. In the United States, the most
economical government he knew of, after the president had laid
before the legislature the estimates for the year, a committee
was appointed to inquire into each separate account. Why not
adopt this course ? In Belgium they acted upon the same prin-
ciple. He, Mr. flume, was desirous of saving the time of the
house, but he bad no data to go upon as to what money ought
to be granted. He had asked the right hon. baronet whether
he had any objection to allow the appointment of a finance com-
mittee, such as had been appointed to IR:A but the right hon.
not very courteously, that he did not feel
power of Chancellor of the Exchequer
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to anybody whatever.
Sir R. PNEL.—The hon, member has misunderstood me, or
rather, I misunderstood the hon. member. 1 understood him to
ask whether I had any objection to the appointment of a com-
mittee to consider the subject of general taxatiou,-and I cer-

tainly answered that I did not feel disposed to surrender my
office to a committee; but the hon. member misunderstood me
if he supposed I ohjt,cted to a finance committee, such as was
appointed in 1828, though I am certainly of opinion that they
ought not to be too frequently appointed.
Mr. Home then addressed the chair in a speech of some
length, in which be complained of theuantity of stores kept on
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hand, and insisted that the reductions the estimates were less
than they ought to have been. He concluded by moving as au
amendment, "that the navy estimates be referred to a select
committee previously to the house resolving itself into a com-
mittee of supply." This motion, after a short debate, was lust
by aJnajority of 85.
The house then resolved itself into a committee, and the fol,
lowing votes were agreed to:—
E 433,051, wages to seamen and marines to the ordinary and
yard craft.
£339,825 for victuals for seamen and marines to the ordinary
and yard craft.
£1.08,84-1 for defraying the charges of the admiralty office.
£22,183 to defray the expenses of the navy pay othve.
£24,590 to defray the salaries of the several scientific depart-
ments of the navy.
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and the house re-
sumed.

The MASTER of the ROLLS obtained leave to bring in a bill
fur investing in government securities a portion of the earth
lying unemployed in the Bank of England, belonging to bank-
rupts' estates, and applying the interest thereon in discharge of
the expenses of the court of bankruptcy, and for the relief of the
suitors in the said court. _ _

The bill was brought in and read a first time, and ordered to
be read a second time mi Friday next.
The other orders of the day were disposed of, and the house
adjourned at one o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS.--TUESDAY.
The Earl of Mot.Gitavx rose to put a question to the noble
secretary for the colonial department. Intelligence of a private
nature had been received from Jamaica, which spoke favourably
of the operation of the emancipation act. He wished to learn
whether the official information corresponded with the intelli-
gence received throught private- sources ? It bad been said
that the working of that measure would in some degree be
tested by the crop of sugar produced since the bill became
law in the colonies. .He 'wished therefore to know whether,
under the operation of the act, a sufficient number of labourers
and particularly apprenticed labourers could be provided for the
cultivation of sugar. The other point on which he wished to
say a few words arose from circumstances of which the noblellord
was aware. It must be known to the noble earl; thatthere were'
in the.colonies persons who had no land, but who were jobbers
in slaves, who kept and hired them to the cultivators of the soil.
He had heard that since the passing of the new act many of
those jobbers had not—from want, as it was reported, of xuffi-
cient employineet—thought it necessary to retain those negroes,'
and that those dangerous persons had in consequence betaken
themselves to the mountains. Those negroes, not being now
attached to the soil were the worst description of neighbours.
Before he left the island, he was desirous that a vagrant law
should be passed in reference to them. Ile now begged to ask
the noble earl whether it was intended to introduce a law of
nature ?
The Earl of ABERDEEN felt great pleasure in being able to
confirmi the statements of the noble earl with respect to the
favourable working of the new system, and to the abundance
of the new crop of sugar. The new crops, he had reason to
believe, were of the full average nature, and the same result
was obtained in British Guiana, a colony second only' to
Jamaica. With respect to the second point referred to by the
noble earl he had no information, but believed that the evil did
not exist to any great extent. He believed that no vagrant
law had been enacted, but his impression was, that in Decem-
ber last a provision had been irit roduced into the new ect by which
the wandering negroes might be arrested and punished accord-
ingly. It was his opinion that a law for the suppression of
vagrancy in the colonies ought to be enacted if the provision
alluded to should turn out inefficient.
THE EAST INDIA INDSAINITY BILL.
On the motion of Lord Elleuborough this bill was read a
third time.

ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS.

Lord BRODDH ;;asiced whether the bill introduced into the
other house of parliament comprehended the abolition of the
'Court of Delegates?
The LORD CDA NcEt.i.oß replied that it did not.
The Earl of WICK Low presented a petition praying for the
repeal of the act for obtaining money on landed securities in
Ireland.
The Marquis CAMDRN said be had received a comfnunication
from the Vice-Chancellor and heads of the houses of the Uni-
versity of Cambridge, stating that they could afford some' use-
ful intormation bearing un the bill then before their lordships
for the abolition of certain oaths. Ile therefore wished to know
whether the noble duke (Richmond) would, under these cir-
cumstances, consent to postpone the third reading of the bill ?
The Duke of IticiimoNn was obliged to his noble friend for
the intimation which lie had given, and was willing to postpone
the third reading of the bill to Friday, in the expectation that
the information would be produced before that time.

POOR LAW HILL.

The Duke of BUCKINGHAM presented a petition from the
inhabitants of Stoke Po is, in the county of Buckingham,
against the manner in which the poor law cotnmissiosers pro-
posed to act with respect to that parish. The petition was in
substance the same as the one recently presented to the other
house of parliament by the Marquis of Chandos. His grace
at considerable length and with great earnestness described the
sufferings of the poor, which must result from the power ex-
ercised by the commissioners, particularly in the case of
separating husband and wife, and parents from their children.
The Duke of WELLINGTON suggested that the consideration
of the subject should be postp?ned untie a counter statement
had been made by the commissioners.
Lord BROUGHAM defended the excellence of the poor law
bill, and contended that the power of separating man and wife
was necessary to get rid of improvident pauperiniarriges, which
were frequently entered into for the purpose of burthening a
parish with the support of the wife.
The petition was laid on the table. _ ,

MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS:

Mr. Bernal and others from the House of COMmons brought
up a bill for applying certain sums of the service of the year
1835 and the Exchequer bills bill.
The Duke of BUCKINGHAM said that after what had passed
that night he thought it his duty to give notice that he should
take an opportunity to move for the correspondence which had
taken place in reference to the union of Stoke Pogis with other
parishes, and fur the attendance (as we understood) of the
overseers of that parish at their lordships' bar. It was very fit
that if the statement which their lordships had heard that night
were true that those gentlemen should have an opportunity of
re-stating what had been so flatly contradicted. (Hear.)
Adjourned at seven o'clock.