The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1850-09-03 00:00:00

A FEW PLAIN' WORDS TO THE retENMERS OF
THE ROSCOE CLUB.

A ig4i,Hbe.
ks(3:irDeicninifsteiwoisAi:ltrVllltTlsoo)o,
T... HIS EVENING, gafhAeelCaNd:ayliAt:
even o
are invited to attend.
the occasion, and t. plain the present PosiP and
tion no •
w Pendi .etween the Town Council a
and Car Pr • et-ors. -4cre
been
LYON,
rtheqeue:ttleer tolUta.o:ne o! s`
thdee :17,e:sbiectr-05A.4:11,1,1°

GENTLEMEN,—You are, I understand, about to meet
to consider, among other things, the_propriety of " an
immediate dissolution of the club." That things should
have come to this pass with you, will, I am sure, be a
source of regret to many; but the complete failure of the
club, as a popular institution, leaves no alternative but
that it should be immediately wound up, whatever else
may arise in its place. Your meeting on next Wednes-
day, (to-morrow,) therefore, being to consider the means
of act.omplishing this object, permit me, as an old member
and friend, to express my notions on the subject in this
form, as it will be inconvenient for me to attend the
meeting, even were my right to do so less questionable
than it fortunately is.
The main consideration to which your attention must
be directed is, undoubtedly, the present financial state of
the institution. By the last report of your council, it
appears that there was, on the 31st December, a debt due
to sundry persons (tradesmen, &c.) of £1,422
A balance due the treasurer, nominally, but really,
I believe, or for the most part, the bank 392
And lent money due sundry members.....

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Claremont and the avenues leading, to it,whe they
At half-past nine mass was performed in 'fa,
the public were not admitted. After its Pljake de
coffin was brought out, supported by the ~,.,00-,,
GBFaraeirprnleeerals Handelot, Bert "ist P"er°4l
Frenchmen
ceremony. t,
coahotmk\evne placeycb at
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the
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bonnes, and Count Friant. The chief inoor,nntA
Count de Paris, and Dukes de Nemours 0na.:;40,
_bridge at 45 minutes past 11. Alon reir-
nehxiheifbmiteuduntehrse
and
dopusp at Esher, Walt° —l;gtelgi
~n,airri. of
and Prince de Joinville. The processicronthe W;
from Claremont most profound marks of if
dwnerriene,cwltohseadm, and the beAllts
aonf tehaerltylihffeoreour
itor_e_Ec jails
to .
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ipedernicnrisbgnoegirf:::,o_l;:tte3;b:or:
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entrance to the chapel, the coffin was •°,fclito it
witnessed the ceremony from a small oliteiv- bid
persons were allowed admission. The 19! .iebotiisii
placed in the chapel, a solemn mass vca',,,c'io°'
the interment took place. The vault o'ool,
sealed, and the cortege returned to Cl °1

Making a total of.
If to this be added, for deficiency of income since
the above date, for rent now due and incumbent,
&c., &c

£1,909

The present total liabilities will be £2,500
To meet this, since the share scheme has been knocked
on the head, you have of available assets, only the furni-
ture, library books, and stock of provisions, &c., on hand ;
and estimating that, if these were brought to the hammer,
they would fetch £5OO, which is probably the outside they
would realize, there will remain unprovided for a balance
of £2,000.

This, I am quite sure, is as favourable a view of your
position as the facts warrant. The practical question,
therefore, for you to determine, is, " How is this to be
met ?"

It is useless now enquiring how this debt was incurred.
It is sufficient that it has been incurred, and must be paid.
It is worse than useless to talk, as some have done, and
are still weakly in the habit of doing, about the youth
and inexperience of the members of the Council. Were
the fact as alleged, the fault would still rest with the
general body of the members whose choice they were.
But the fact is not so; not at all so. The members of
the council were,and are, intellectually the elite of the club.
An individual or two might possibly he replaced by better
men ; but, taking the body as a whole, I do not believe
that a more efficient council than your present—one
more intelligent, more self-sacrificing, more anxious for
the real interests of the club could be found. The fault
does not rest with them. They have done de best they
could ; nor do I think it scarcely too much to say (and
though it is now long since I ceased to be a member of
the club, I have watched their proceedings with much
interest), that they have done the best that could be done
with tie means at their disposal. The results under their
hands contrast most favourably for them, with those in
similar undertakings in this town, and elsewhere, under
the hands of men against whom such futile charges would
not be breathed. It were therefore worse than useless to
cast imputations of incompetence and inexperience upon
them. Such imputations would simply be unjust; they
would excite bad feeling, divert the attention, obscure the
iluhrmant carwri erre.o4,,

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PARIS, THURSDAY.—The desire fot"
ds/ ,oft
the constitution appears to be pret,r,'iiereir,io.3
councils generally. The Nepaulese Aviere.eos.,
received by the -President on Fridayjeltil'ef.tttet,
that the Swiss Government has derriVvetiotleSPod
from France of some Swiss refugees. riosi'otris
AUSTRIA, VIENNA, 28TH ULT.--"llle,rof;Greee
Count•Nesselrode, was with the ErePi,e4oo.sol
Prince Schwarenberg at Ischl. The
Bavaria were expected there.
110 ce best
DENMARK AND THE DUCHIES, Vies 10 tie ton 01
ULT.—The Stadtholders of the Duch atb9s.,
proclamation, calling on all men and PA rer
arms to join the army, as the father's"'
force at its disposal for its defence. f

Priestess,
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L. EAMINGTON STAKES.—KermingtonF,lt!ALll'o!':"
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to ' to
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16 to 1 ; Langton, 18 to 1. ,bo^' I;
GREAT
ST. LEGER E Voltigeu P•ttsfor.,•
tu ~v
ven on Voltigeur ; ge • OP :6
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sincerely that all such will be avoided ; that you will
meet together as sensible, practical, and earnest men, and
address yourselves to the real question, " How is this
debt to be provided for and the Club honourably wound
,f,

-t.ol?1;t4):-;.—John Day s lot: Hipp 3~ to

LONDON MONEY AND SHARE MARKErV

up ?"
For I trust that no one who is or has been a me ~. „

CLOSING PRICES

Or tlic
['tie°

,to will dream of allowing it to close in any other
than an honourable way. I now address every one who
has taken practice'

et little doing, a

Railway ma

, si'bus't
!aeemsrol iat present P/i
rs ces
oft t
are °

1 advant

norary or fife members I put out of V the question alto-
gether. It were a deep disgrace to those who have bene-
fited by the club were these gentlemen to suffer for their
generous assistance and countenance of the undertaking.
I speak to the ordinary members alone; and to each I
would soy, " Jou are more or less accountable forthis debt.

"-••••••••& auulig; trie
of York and North Midland, which is the c
those lines.
Consols,
per Cents
Mexicans
Londe
Mi. 2 •

4 ibree:t"'
Account , 96i; cash, 961, • --1). t°'
Pi—Exchequer Bills, L,

rrel.! Ag. a K.,

To a certain extent, this debt was incurred actually in • it
Preenroi, p
your behalf. Pay in now your just proportion, and the Counties, 6:4—Great Northern, s rero
j 61—Leeds Stock, 42, 44 ; fifths, 9, 81 di/ 17•
whole will be liquidated with ease."
si, 4/ die—York and North Midland, '
To those, more especially, who were members during
the early career of the club, in Bold.streot_

G ri"

A NCHESTER CL(

six months of starting, the first £6OO of debt was incurred, Leeds Stock
....•• 0
and, let me add, incurred mainly, if not altogether, in West Riding Union .. .............. : . prefere...
consequence of the excessive lowness of the charges for
viands, whereof the frequenters of the refreshment rooms Dover's Four , ...............
.....!„
had undoubtedly the advantage; to them I say, " There kointl.o sharesd ................ ~ . 2..8 ; pv"
Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire.....,.:..,
London quaff
is a double claim on you. You have demonstrably con- Greator Noartgerrns' 131 3.
_.,. 4.3
sumed a great portion of this money. Y.., did ~.,f ~

aaequateiy ror what you a'e and drank. In fairness you
ought now to refund the amount you then saved. And
__ _yssTPjaoo.
in pressing this claim upon you, I apply to you only the LONDON CORN MARKET•' ofere.ng CA fo
same rule to which I subject myself. It is now nearly Wheat : larger quantities land saMP'Varvest'rted'let
two years and a half since I ceased to be a member of the and favourable state of the weather for suPPar, 1/1; Y
club. I was for only one quarter in it; but during that trade, and Monday's rates not generat;,„ logoi ot 00
time, I saved from 2a. to 3d. a day on my dinner, corn- dealt in with caution, and prices ra ',t, at
_tices
paring the club prices with those of any place of equal andcontinueed good: Barley
.in fatrarneecl.atiats Y
fine
irl:c!ips,,ToAt_ cheaper ; little d
style in the town. Since, then, experience has shown
that tl

Oldli-o;:e—rs,-1-6ii—DlG, of
3, If

nese prices were really too low, I, for one, am pre-
pared to refund to the extent at least of these savings, as
soon as I am assured that the money will be applied to the
payment of the debt, and not risked by further persistance Ctrs.
lish Wheat English in a scheme which has clearly never had an adequate basis. „
Barle y
Will not you do the same F Oats
This is one ground of responsibility for the debt. It is „ Malt
the only one that I feel applies to myself, since I have so „ Flour
„
long ceased to be a member, and since I never was on the
Foreign -
s
Bewl
council, and never had, either actually or by implication, Irish Malt "
a voice in any election or at any general meeting of the
club. There are, I am persuaded, few members whose r 411%4il're'
COND NOTICE. is. pe lior I
cif('
responsibility is not much wider than this ; few who are
At the close of the market Wheat was, 0115lioliged', pe
not, either in fact or by implication, committed to general Less new offered than on Monday 13'7a pile" co;e, froill
proceedings of the club which have resulted in increasing and in some cases 2s. lower. Good. es litter cillizbervltt
the debt. Upon the majority, therefore, there must be more in demand than new, and PriC in a,tDer, 001'!.f SO far deeper claims ; and as one practical conclusion for your spring corn is dearer. Oats 6d. and also rr, irng.r.
meeting on Wednesday, therefore, I would suggest, that 9.l,Tirtteeli,ehaigt;er. • Barley and Beans der,od
all who leave been or are now ordinary members of the "n
is a slight rse=ioins,. thousghpemrilers still d I'
club be called upon to pay, towards the liquidation of the for best town made.
debt, sums proportionate to their length of membership.
The length of membership may be taken to afford as
fair a criterion as can be attained of the value each hai,
derived fr-

h White Wheat

~ Red

ARRIVALS

8162 scks

50 Indian

Weather very fine'

.505 n,

LONDON PRODUCE MARKO t stiff 'lOO
•
ar7Fareign : Several parcels SOld t 13,e0to so6' cei
,or. _„ ife ,ft

Havannah in bond at 235. to 245. per t':tit 51P• . ssro'ieri,e
a trom the institution ; hence the propriety of mak- much wanted. Brown, grocery 1"1"- t o°lo '11".-- l'
ing it the principle upon which the assessment should be cwt.—Coffee: Quiet, but lower rates not sborti odcallei
founded.
455. 6d. to 46s.—Tea: Dealt in with d'e"clarnt solittleoif
casesotton,,,oloot
Then, as to the amounts to be apportioned to the not accepted. Public sales will
some
several terms of membership, would not ss. for each Several parcels sold, and M.
,wt,Cstol.-1,04 c 10,.,
roliteerßatengli)lilitlOsricteos
n 1
quarter be adequate to the end in view ? Of course,
parties would not be limited to this amount ; they could 2°6,3E8 mils. ti3elivpripß during. the Ft, fai.r,
.0, • ,
give as rillinh ,mnra 413 fitnt• ...1.....,.....] 11 I' • losilo6Ll.3„...erT'allo"l:t Wete:er'

..'y p....aeu ; nor would 1, In cases I,6l9ciaTiasiyearl'm' aTkeiThrul, rs'i ; OW-
05it'
of real inability, object to receive less. The average New Y.C. at 375. 6d, to 378.9 d. on the Pv
...---- vi 0
would probably exceed this sum, and if so the debt would ---
/411'ds sl be amply provided for. SHIPPING' e Triestej„e a° A°
The execution of this plan would involve a personal can- Eliza and Gregorias, from this port a". Alice 01°3'.
ust , city 5
vacs. For this purpose no one could be better qualified Isabella, hence at Jamaica, 2d Aug,' New Jo. ort
than your present excellent secretary ; and I have no Ewing, 31st July; Jane,..ZuleikaLa% 27th ~,. 45P
doubt that all the creditors of the club' would concur in Minerva, hence at St. Jago de uiluii at PT, for ' ,
William Hutt, hence at Laguayra, ~...01 fr°`
alto sing sufficient time for its being carried out.
Precursor and Reoina, sailed from i'" _,_
_t;
I have hitherto argued upon the assumption that the July. ' iqth Ja`keil' iii
ut ..., I, .- ' t;
s:ca,fute:nrend
odp;:ali, ::::
liability of the members would be at once acknowledged. Reindeer, from this port, at Beyranerno, nth 46
'l' ll°
I should be most unwilling to believe in the invalidity of Alice and Haviland, hence at i
, rt, Ist , isre
this assumption. It is quite possible there may be a doubt dence, 6th July.
as to their legal liability. I pretend not to judge of that.
Ido not interpret the law of England upon the subject; Vessels • gfroM Eagla 'ne• 10°,040
. sbiestleiacncit
:l eyar e
Ganges, haenidn
Richard A
I interpret only the law of honour, the law of conscience, submitted to from 14 to 20 days clu~i .....fro.- ria _5 . 8,
the law of God. And I will not believe that there are EAST INDlA.—Sailed for Liverpooo ,en. Froitirotoo,
Phoenix sailed froamrnAvnintii a for f:ria'sn
tißtt.y.ingoi:::: ce:
v` Iti
many among the two thousand persons who have partici
pated in the benefits of this association who will repudiate Cestus, John Graham, CarVaelwiaicir, 0 a' spill);
their liability for some proportion of the debt honestly in- Calcutta—William Carey, w r Jo" re° Df
t, isb, 010, curred in their behalf. Straitened as may be the means Pe.'calldeeusita, July 13M—The Ann Melhu► froul„, oit 44e,
of not a few, Ido have faith in their virtue to this extent. ginald Heber, and the Zion's HoPe'b doclou ell'
ill e • being
I can appreciate the repudiation by an individual member been aground in the river, and wut bacl"
of his liability for the entire debt. There is a basis of posed not damaged. The• Devon P
justice in this. But I have never yet met with one who the master sick.
did not acknowledge himself morally bound for some fair
proportion of it ; and hence I have ventured freely to
suggest the only plan which has occurred to myself as at
once jusr, practicable, likely to approve itself to the
honourable feelings of the members in general, and com-
mensurate with the end to be attained.
On commencing this letter I intended to propound a
scheme which, if carried out, would have the effect of
realising more for the present property of the club than
could be got for it if brought to auction piecemeal ; but,
having already trespassed too far on the space at my dis-
posal, this must be deferred for a subsequent communi-
cation. In the meantime, let the worst view of the case
be provided for, and any improvement upon it will be all
the more acceptable when it comes. Z.

will
iaLlileor.dreodmn Ca, Lan ruf". on and suite left ..ee:n Deshler : ric:Ost
tslll.:49l(!ert'; 'd:
l'ls A tevall'
the county of
he Pr° fert° gii
I,:astle, the seat of ther Earl of Erne, .ii be le be
From Friday to Tuesday the noble earl wi ,0,,,/en jo ,
of the Marquis of Londonderry at Gallen .` follef'.o sn'
county of Antrim ; and on the Wednesdn:,,, ici
~,.011,4
pays his promised vis►t to Belfast, viler i.O. 0 reocor,
until Friday, when his Excellency will btegoillee
time the guest 'of Lord Londonderry at of pt '
the noble Marquis's residence in the c'41,1,3 on 0
This will complete the tour to the nortn, ,',1,0. Of Pd
day week Lord Clarendon will arrive in Puurroge 501 f),,,
MARRIAGE IN HIGH Lire•---Tne cliarriet ilibwof
Grace the Duke of Manchester with lkliss . i.ej (la 5,
~
Dobbs, one of the beautiful and accomPllsu col tie,
of Mr. Conway R. Dobbs, of Castle .001),,bes,.?'Stli eip lop;
Antrim, was solemnised on Wednesday, " ra
tiecor l'' It')
in the parish church of Kilroot and TeTPrewive'llife:fol
presence of a select circle of friends ann 0;0 I,l,cot!ie,
lovely bride, whose grace and beautY „ ber:01(
admiration, was accompanied to the altar:11110 .Peciotei
sisters and by Miss Bainbridge, Miss Blew 'l-10tecl 1/1011
the Misses Stewart, and Miss A. Verner:ceiebretvol,
after the ceremony the happy event wa' itoble 1.0 °Die
splendid dejeuner at Castle Dobbs, the hosP uove ,on ~
of the bride's father, at which were presenti.` 111!'cillig;
hundred of the gentry of the neighbourKouto l'sv,rsce
bridegrcom and his fair bride proceeanc,' ,or 0 P
Castle. previous to their leaving "Ireland '
seat, Kimbolton Castle, Huntingdonshire.

Mr. Grundy's purchases at the King of Holland's sale
of pictures will shortly arrive in Liverpool.
CORPSE FOUND.—On Sunday morning the body of a
woman was found floating in the river opposite the Bruns-
wick Dock. It was picked up and conveyed to the dead-
house, where it awaits the coroner's inquest.
Frederick Jerome, who behaved so gallantly on the
occasion of the burning of the Ocean Monarch, received,
on Saturday, twenty-five guineas from the Liverpool
Humane Society. He preferred the money to the gold
medal of the society.

CHILD, EXPOSURE.—A man named Phillips, living at
50, Essex-street, Toxteth-park, on Sunday morning found
the body of a female child wrapped in a black stuff apron,
and enclosed in a bag. It was lying in Warwick-street.
The face and head of the infant were much bruised.
Two years ago, at the Liverpool assizes, there were 188.
civil cases to be disposed of. This summer there were
only 66. Now that debts under £5O are recoverable in
the county court no doubt the number will be still further
diminished.

METEOROLOGICAL RELRD'S G101,17t0p4
BY MR. C. H. CHADBUIIN, 71,

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registering Difference pint' e •
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bright, p.m. clouded,l night rain ; 30tn, tightl 000,
clear ; 31st, iight rain, cloudy lst.
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2d, morning clouded, day brilliant. ____
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Since the adjournment of the Liverpool County Court,,
which resumes its sittings to-day, there have been no less
than 500 cases entered for trial. Five are under the new
act for sums not exceeding £5O. All cases under L 5 will
be taken first.

On Saturday a number of men engaged in connecting
some gas mains in Richmond-row, by inhaling the noxious
vapour which escaped from the aperture, were completely
overpowered, and some time elapsed before they recovered
sensibility. However, porter and other stimulants were
administered, and after a time the men were brought
round. .

VENTILATION oF- Roams.—ln these days of thirsting
for pure air, it is a matter of some surprise that some pub-
lic-houses are not thoroughly ventilated and we are happy
to see an example has been set by Mr. Whiteman, of the
Brunswick Hotel, whose spacious room for meetings,
sales of land, &c., has not only been ventilated effectually
and invisibly, but renovated in style of elegance. It is
now admirably adapted to its intended purposes.
The Liverpool Gas Company have, as usual ever since
those great reductions of puce which were to ruin them,
announced a dividend of five per cent. for the last half-
year, being the highest allowed them by their own
Act of Parliament.—The Builder.—[Our contemporary
might have made his, case still stronger, for the company
last half year not only divided five per cent., but carried
half per cent. to make up a preceding half-year's
ficiancy.l

ANNUALsut TIT,:TpION.
wes. I ON CSIM:'