The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-01-06 00:00:00

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The minutes of the last general monthly meeting were read
by Mr. HILLIAR.

LIGHTING AND WATCHING COMMITTEE

Mr. HILLIAR read the proceedings of the Watch Com-
mittee. The only matter of any importance amongst them was
the circumstance of one of the constables having been re
(piked to explain to the committee why he had refused to
apprehend some man who was charged with assaulting a fe-
male, which assault he had not seen perpetrated.
Mr. WM. JACKSON begged to ask for the guidance of the
committee whether the police-officer had, under the circum-
stances, power to apprehend the party ?
The CHAIRMAN replied that, by law no constable was
authorised to apprehend any party for an assault unless he
was present when the assault was committed.

Mi. LAYCOCK said the rule might .--p;;;.; hardship; and
he believed that such apprehensions were frequently made
in Liverpool.

The CHAIRMAN added, that the law was as he had stated
it. If there was such a rule in Liverpool as that described
by Mr. Laycock, he was not aware of it.
Mr. J. S. JACKSON confirmed the statement of the chair-

Mr. WIT. JACKSON observed that he was of the same
opinion ; and he had put the question only because the com-
mittee, wished to have the matter perfectly understood.
The proceedings were then confirmed.

MARKET COMMITTEE

Mr. HILLIAR read the proceedings of the Market Com-
mittee. It appeared that on the 13th December last the
committee were called together, but there not being a suffi-
cient number of members who attended to form a quorum,
the rest, after waiting half an hour. adjourned. At a subse-
quent meeting, a bill of £3 6s. 41d. was ordered to be paid
to Mr. Wm. Evans, for a new table for the use of the re-
porters (who, of course, are very grateful to the committee
for making such careful provision for them). Several
minor proceedings with regard to the management of the
market were detailed.

Vlr. WILLIAM JACKSON, on the reading of the proceed

ings being concluded, begged to mention to the commis-
sioners that premiums were now being offered for the stalls
end shops in the market—a circumstance showing the ne-
cessity for the commissioners speedily entertaining the ques-
tion of enlarging the market.—Proceedings confirmed.

ROAD COMMITTEE

Mr. MALLABY read the Road Committee's proceedings.
They contained nothing worthy of particular notice ; and
were confirmed without observation.

FINANCE COMMITTEE

Mr. HILLIAR read the proceedings of the Finance Com-
ittee, and they were confirmed.

PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE

produced and read a report, dated "3d
1843," from the Parliamentary Committee, descrip-
tive of the measures which the committee recommended the
commissioners to adopt and seek in their intended new bill.
This report stated that the committee were at length enabled
to submit to the general board the measures which they had
matured, and which they recommended to be adopted. All
details and matters not likely to be useful, or which were
produce opposition, had been expunged from the
.1d the rest had been modified so as to obviate all ob-
,,ron to their admission: The committee recommended,
first—the incorporation with Birkenhead of Claughton and
parts of Oxton for the purpose of the intended improvement
act, without any interference with ecclesiastical affairs, or
the affairs of the poor. In accordance with this view, it was
proposed that the inhabitants of Claughton and Oxton should
make a distinct rate for watching and lighting, each paying
their own expenses, so that it would bear equally upon both.
Second—the establishment of a park of seventy acres in-
tended for th 9 recreation of the public, the advantages of
which had already been so fully discussed, that they were
unnecessary to be explained. Third—the establishment of
a cemetery. Fourth—the establishment of baths, which it
was anticipated would yield a speedy profit. Fifth—power
to license hackney coaches, cars, and carts. Sixth—increased
powers to the commissioners to remove nuisances. Seventh—
regulations for the preservation of the health of the town.
Eighth—regulations for the erection of buildings. Ninth—
to provide for the sewering of new streets at the expence of
the owners. Tenth—empowering the commissioners to rate
the owners instead of the occupiers of property let at £l5
per annum and under, the assessment being proposed to be
at three-fifths of the annual value. Eleventh—that the meet-
ings of the commissioners be held the first Tuesday following
the annual election—instead of waiting for the first Tuesday

January

likely to
bill

in the month. Twelfth—repealing the right of the corpoi.a-
tion of Liverpool to appoint three commissioners to sit at
that board. This privilege, the committee contended, was
unjust and partial. Thirteenth—power to raise an adequate
sum of money to carry out the objects of the act. Four-
teenth—the establishment of a small debts' court ; and in the
Fifteenth place the committee left the commissioners to say,
whether application should be made for power to appoint a

might become of that importance as to be raised, with some
of the neighbouring parts, into the station of a borough, and
then such an appointment might with great propriety be
acceded to; but at present he (the chairman) confessed they
were not in a situation to ask for it. With regard to what
Mr. Laycock had stated of the want of magistrates, such an
event as he had stated might once have occurred, and he
(the chairman) was not aware that it had more than oncf
occurred, nor was it likely to occur again. To remedy an

inconvenience of that sort there was a gentleman
dent always willing to come to Birkenhead, day by day, it
his presence was required, as a magistrate. That gentleman
was Mr. Harden, who lived between that place and Rock
Ferry, and he would be always ready to give his assistance
whenever he was wanted. He (the chairman) thought it
would be policy in the commissioners to abstath for the pre-
sent from embodying in their present application power to
make such an appointment as a stipendiary magistrate, even in
anticipation. Only yesterday he had had an opportunity of
stating to the bench of Quarter Sessions [at Chester], among
whom the notice of the application to parliament had created
some degree of interest, that it was his earnest advice to the
commissioners to forego that part of the notice which em-
braced this appointment; and he now hoped they would
think it prudent to do so.
After a few words from Mr. Was. JACKSON, who inti-
mated that at a future time Poulton, Seacombe, and others
of the adjacent townships might join with them in effecting
this object, the intention of seeking for this power was
withdrawn.

WEIGHTS AND MEASURES

Mr. MALLABY reported that the magistrates in quarter
sessions had, with a trifling exception, confirmed the bye-
laws made by the commissioners, on the subject of weights
and measures.
Mr. WATSON called the attention of the commissioners to
the important subject of their obtaining power to appoint an
inspector of weights and measures in the township of Bir-
kenhead. The magistrates had now that power; but in the
bill about to go 'before parliament, could not the commis-
sioners obtain the power of uppdintitent ? They had al-
ready the power of appointing such an officer as to the
market, but not as to the township.
Mr. MALLABY replied that the efficient purposes for which
such an officer would be appointed were embraced in the
bill. The officer to be appointed, under the bill would have
power of seizing, in the whole township, false weights and
measures ; but there were certain powers which could not be
conferred upon him without the sanction of the magistrates.
It would be repealing the general act of parliament, if they
took upon themselves to make the appointment of that offi-
cer, because all his powers were conferred upon him by
another body; but, at the same time all the efficient objects
of it were, he thought, secured by the bill in its present
state.

FERRY' COMMITTER

The Ferry Committee reported that there had been an
increase in the receipts for the past month over the corre-
sponding period last year of £l3O. The books had been
made up to the 31st uit., and in the result the expectations
of the committee had been more than realised. Instructions
had been given to proceed against Mr. Willoughby for
damage done to one of the packets, the amount of which he
refused to pay. The committee bad deemed it their duty
to obtain the sentiments of the mass of passengers who
passed to and fro as to the withdrawal of the late boats, and
their opinion was strongly in favour of their continuance.
An account had been taken of the number of passengers by
them, and it was found to average 1,600 per week, or up-
wards of 80,000 per annum. Of the 1,600, 307 were con-
tractors; and this account having been taken in the winter,
it was fair to assume that in summer the numbers would be
greater. It having been stated that the receipts would be
the same if the late boats were discontinued, the committee
had ascertained that full one-half of the amount received for
late passengers was for those who crossed to Liverpool; and
it was fair to assume that they were parties who, having been
visiting friends on the Cheshire side, could only return by
the late boats. Under all these circumstances the committee
crossed
class. bythem,
The proceedings were then confirmed.
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THE LATE BOATS

Mr. PARKER then brought forward the motion of which
he had given notice, that in compliance with the memorial
signed by upwards of seventy of the clergy and principal in-
habitants presented to the last meeting, the late boats be dis-
continued. When he saw that memorial signed by six mi-
nisters of the Established Church, by the minister of the
Scotch Church, by the three Wesleyan ministers, by the two
overseers, by the churchwarden, and some of the most re-
spectable inhabitants, he had thought it his duty as a com-
missioner (though he might be considered by some as an in-
truder because he represented the corporation of Liverpool)
to support the prayer of a document so respectably signed.
He might be told that the prospects of profit from the late
boats were flattering, but he bad yet to be convinced that such
was the fact. There had been nothing produced in proof of
that but bare assertion ; and he thought they would be found
to entail expense on the township. That was the opinion of
a great many ratepayers. He was not going to say that crime
had increased in consequence of the late boats, but he con-
tended that alarm had, because some weeks ago a worthy
magistrate, who was proceeding to partake of the chairman's
hospitality, was attacked on his way by footpads, and he ac-
tually returned to his own house to procure pistols for his
protection. This was the statement actually made by the
Rev. Joshua King. It bad been asserted that the late boats
improved the market, and that lodgings let better in conse-
quence; now, what was that but the argument of the very
people whose property was benefitted ? Those who were not
in a position of that kind were the best judges of the effect,
and it was to their verdict that he appealed. Mr. Parker
concluded by moving the discontinuance of the late boats.
After waiting a few seconds,
The CHAIRMAN inquired whether any commissioner se-
conded the motion ?

Mr. Wm. JACKSON said, that as reporters were present,
be should like to have permission to reply to Mr. Parker.
Mr. PARKER contended that Mr. Jackson could not be
heard unless the motion was seconded.

Mr. GREEN said he would second it for the sake of dis-
cussion. His opinions on the subject were pretty well
known.

Mr. 'Wm. JACKSON then commenced his reply. In the
first place, in order to shew a state of alarm, Mr. Parker
had mentioned facts which took place not in the township
of Birkenhead, but in Mr. King's township, and for which,
therefore, the commissioners were not responsible. He
might with equal justice have laid to their charge every rob-
bery committed in Liverpool; and he (Mr. Jackson) be-
lieved that, taking into account the extent of population,
the district of Birkenhead was as free from crime and vio-
lence as any district, he cared not where it might be, of equal
population. With regard to no figures, but only statements,
being produced to prove the success of the ferry, every mem-
ber of the committee would bear him out in stating, that he
had always been prepared with accounts, derived from the
ferry books, justifying every statement made in their reports.
He was so on the present occasion—with details extracted
from the books of the treasurer, which were made up to the
31st ult. Those accounts fully bore out the most sanguine
expectations of the committee. Mr. Jackson then referred
to the description of persons who had signed the memorial
against the late boats, contending that the clergy knew little
or nothing of the subject, and thatall the rest were subscri-
bers to the opposition ferry of Birkenhead. Recurring to
the accounts, he challenged any individual, or any account-
ant in Liverpool, to disprove the fact, that, after defraying
every expense, after making every allowance for wear and
tear and the interest of money, there was a very hand-
some surplus to go in aid of the wants of the township ; and
he hoped the time was not far distant when the profits would
be so considerable that the township should not suffer front
an improvement rate. From the Ist of July to the 31st of
been—
December in each of the following years the receipts had

In 1841
In 1842
(hear), shewing a very considerable increase. It was true
there had been an increased expenditure ; but the increased
receipts from greater facilities being afforded to the public
had been tenfold greater than the increased expenditure. On
these grounds, the Ferry Committee requested the com-
missioners to sanction the continuance of the late boats.
After some further statements, shewing the great accommo-
dation afforded by the ferry, and its prospects of greater suc-
cess, Mr. Jackson concluded by moving an amendment to
the effect, that the late boats having been tried for five
months, and found profitable and of great utility, the Ferry
Committee be instructed to continue them.
Mr. STANSFIELD seconded the amendment.
Mr. IVIALLAny said, the amendment was a mere negative
to the original motion.
Mr. W. JACKSON said, he proposed it in osiednesrethoaft thethe
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the new bridge over Wallasey Pool, the late boats
a great accommodation to the inhabitants
of that distrhad beenict.
The CHAIRMAN detailed the circumstances of the attack
of
taken robbers referred to by Mr. Parker, adding, that it had
quentlyp it could not bla so early e
attributable to as six o'clock itheh ln teate boats.
evening, conse-
Mr. GREEN, the object of ' discussion beinc, gained, then
withdrew his seconding of the motion, and it tel to the
ground ; but not until some altercation between Mr. l
William
Jackson and Mr. Parker, to Chairman had to be exerted stop which the authority of the

NUISANCE

A memorial from Mr. Cornthwaite, complaining of a
nuisance arising from a slaughter-house in
Duncan-street,
was referred to the Watch Committee ; and Mr. J. S. JACK-
SON, seconded by Mr. WATSON, moved that a clause be in-
troduced in the new Moir.
which to erect an aba Tile motion was carried.w minutes before nine o'clock. a fe
giving power to purchase land on
The meeting separated

* It is due to Mr. Watson to mention, that at the close of
the meeting he informed the reporters that he was not the
commissioner who had suggested the increased qualification.

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land for it. lam satisfied that t can keep two cows
same quantity of ground, stall fed, where I could keep
but one if allowed to graze. I have no grass land, and all
the first winter my cows had only straw, turnips, and mangel
wurzel, till green food came on in the spring, and now my
hay is the clover I sowed with the grain crop last year. I
have experienced a great deal of good from the liquid manure
from the two tanks, one from the cows and the other from
the pigs. I have just killed a pig weighing twenty-nine stone
seven pounds, and one before about the same weight, which
I have used in my family. I have a wife and four children,
and a pupil of thirteen years of age, come to learn the plan
of stall-feeding cows and spade husbandry, paid for by Mrs.
Parry, of the Cedars, Sunning Bill, Berkshire. It is al-
lowed that my oats are the best sample iu the parish. I tied
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