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REPRESENTATION OF SOUTH TOXTETH WARD

TO THE EDITOR OP THE LIVERPOOL :STANDARD,

SIR,---It seems to be very generally admitted that
during the recent opposition to the Pike scheme many
gentlemen made use of the popular cry for the purpose of
attaining to a distinction for which by nature and circum-
stances, and in some instances by education, they were,
not qualified. The public, by the press, seems to acknow-
ledge this error. and to confess thatthe time and the oppor-
tunity have arrived when a reformation must take place.
In speaking of Mr. Hindley I have no wish to be dis-
-respectful or offensive; but still I consider it only right
that my brother electors should be reminded that they
are apparently forgetting their duty to themselves and the
constituency in which we live. The intellectual character
of the town should be justly represented in the council,
and every member should be sufficiently fluent to vindi-
cate his own character whenever it may he assailed, and
to advocate the interests of his constituents whenever
occasion may require. Can Mr. Hindle), do this ? Has
he done it ? No ! ! I believe more than a few have
noticed the rather astonishing fact, tnat during the whole
period of his office Mr. Hindley has never once addressed
the council, although severe strictures have been passed
upon him in his own presence, and the vested interests of
his constituents have been assailed by a project for remo-
ving the timber trade from their locality. Such a man is
unsuited for such a trust ; yet he again seeks the obliga-
tions of an office which he has proved himself so totally
unable to discharge, and so far holds with undisturbed
serenity an undisputed possession of his indefensible and
untenable position.
Rates may have been reduced, and Mr. Hindley may
adduce the fact as the fruit of his ingenuity, and one of
the effects of his persuasive eloquence ; but, if it be so,
he certainly has occasion, with Mr. Fernihough, to com
plain of the partial reports of the press of Liverpool.
His constituents are in ignorance of all his exertions, and
have not the privilege to peruse his effusions ! Shame on
the one-sided and bribed newspapers of Liverpool, to
pluck such a public benefactor, and to decry, even by the
censure of your silence, these his important and success-
ful exertions. Your conduct only proves that "it is useless
to throw pearls before swine."

The electors of South Toxteth Ward, however, can
appreciate his great value, and, as a certificate of merit
and a " council" special prize, will return him on the Ist
of November unopposed. " That's the way to punish the
press." If they don't do justice, the council chamber
shall continue to ring with the manly and honest denun-
ciations of the worthy and eloquent member for South
Toxtetb.

Electors of South Toxteth, think what von are going
to do 1---I am, sir, yours, &c.. AN ELECTOR.

THE REFORMATION AT DOON

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

SlR,—The two following letters form a very suitable
conclusion to the discussion between the Rev. Messrs.
Atkinson and Darby, and the Rev. Mr. O'Dwyer, which
has been in various ways so long before the Liverpool
public. It is a very curious coincidence, that when Romish
priests are driven into a corner, like this Mr. O'Dwyer,
they almost always either happen to be overburdeaed
just at that particular juncture with "onerous parochial
duties," or else the person who challenges them happens
to be one with whom their delicate sense of " propriety"
will not allow them to " hold any communication." I
have no wish, however, to trespass upon your space by
any needless comment, and will therefore merely place
three of his assertions in juxta-position with the facts,
leaving your readers to draw their own inferences.
I.—" Without first consulting me regarding the time."
Mr. O'Dwyer's own letters, sent by himself to the Mer-
cury, show that he refused point blank to be " consulted
on the matter at all. " Name the day and hour of meet-
ing," was the only reply they could get to their repeated
applications.
2.—" Or apprising me of the day." He was apprised
of the day, both by letter from one of the referees in Li-
verpool, and by the " insulting notices," which were
posted upon the wall of his own house, in abundant time
for him to have made his appearance at the rendezvous.
3.—" As to Mr. Darby, I have never had, and never
will bold, any communication with him. I repudiated his
ungentlemanly intrusion in this matter long since." The
original challenge was signed both by Mr. Atkinson and
Mr. Darbv, and Mr. O'Dwyer's reply was, " Of course I
have no objection to Mr. Darby's assisting you in the dis-
cussion, since you have coupled him with you in the chal-
lenge."
I do not know what may be the experience of other Pro-
testant controversialists, but every day's experience con-
vinces me more fully of the unexaggerated truth of Mr. Gun
ninghame's saying, that " in dealing with Popery you must
be prepared for an almost incredible amount of villany."—
I am, Sir, your obedient servant, SAMUEL MINTON.

TO THE REV. JOHN O'DWYER

REV. SIR.—As it appears, by a letter in the Limerick
Chronicle, that you excuse your non-appearance at the
Concert Hall, in this town, to meet the Rev. Messrs.
Atkinson and Darby, as you had engaged to do, by al-
leging insufficient notice, we hereby, in the name and by
the authority of those gentlemen, advertise you of their
willingness to meet you in the same place on either the
4th or sth of November next. We challenge you, in
their name, to disprove any of their statements concerning
the work of Reformation in the district of Doon, and to
make good any of the charges which you have brought
against them in the public papers. We beg of you to tell
us explicitly whether you accept this challenge, and which
of the two days above named best suits your convenience.
We also request you to let us know whether there are any
parties in Liverpool to whom you would wish to refer us,
in order that, should you accept the challenge, we may at
once, in conjunction with them, make the preliminary
arrangements for the discussion. Waiting your reply,
we remain, Rev. Sir, your obedient servants,
JOSIAH B. LOWE, Incumbent of St. Jude's.
SAMUEL MINTON, Incumbent of St. Silas's.
Liverpool, Oct. 14th. -
TO THE REV. MESSRS. LOWE AND MINTON. •

Rev. Gentlemen,—l am in receipt of your letter of the
14th instant, conveying to me a formal renewal of a chal-
lenge to a discussion with the Messrs. Atkinson and
Darby, in Liverpool, and appointing the 4th or sth of
November next for our meeting. In reply, I have to
state my regret that certain onerous parochial duties, now
commencing, which I am not at liberty to interrupt,
will altogether prevent me from leaving this till after the
middle of January next. Then it will be a question of
serious consideration whether I can, with propriety, meet
even Mr. Atkinson in public discussion, after his having
so far forgotten the duties of an honourable opponent as
to placard a discussion between himself and your humble
servant, without first consulting me regarding the time,
or apprising me of the day. and to procure insulting no-
tices to be posted up by night in this neighbourhood,
stating that I had backed out of the discussion, although
he had in his possession my letters requesting him to let
me know, through the post, the day on which the proposed
discussion was to take place. As to Mr. Darby, I have
never had and never will hold any communication with
him. I repudiated his ungentlemanly obtrusion in this
matter long since. His indecent obstinacy in trying to
force himself on my notice, after my distinct refusal to
know him, cannot help me to change my opinion of him.
—I remain, your obedient servant, J. O'DWYER, C.C.
Doon, Cappawhite, Ireland, Oct. 18th, 1851.

THE QUEEN'S LATE VISIT.-NEW STREETS!

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD,

SlR,—The greatest nuisances in the way which her Ma-
jesty was taken undoubtedly were the Fever Ward and
Night Asylum, institutions good and humane in their
objects, but such as ought not by any means to be located
in their present position. Indeed, it was a sad blunder
to re-construct even the Workhouse on its present site!
for whilst the land on which it stands would have realised
more than would have purchased a new site in a suitable
situation, and have defrayed the cost of new erections, a
direct road would have been opened through from Brown-
low•street to Hope•street, a thoroughfare which the recent
royal visit fully proves is required. The mistake—the
blundering mistake—may, in some degree, be rectified
even now.

The new erections in Brownlow-hill terminate a little
above Brownlow-street, and run thence at right angles
through to Mount-pleasant, opposite Chestnut-street,—
a street might be cut through-here, of which the Work-
house would form one of the sides ; the Fever Hospital and
Night Asylum could be removed to more appropriate lo-
calities, and the land disposed of for building upon. This
would afford facilities for reaching Hope-street, which is
at present approached only through a narrow street or a
nauseous atmosphere. I trust the authorities will endea-
vour to improve this place, and save us from the disgrace
of ever again taking her Majesty past such an asylum.
The course also from the Town-hall to St. George's-
hall, by way of Dale-street and Manchester-street, was
by no means calculated to give her Majesty very exalted
views of the magnificence of our thoroughfares,—this
might be rectified at a small cost, if, indeed, the scheme
would not repay the expenditure with a good interest; it
has been often before the public, and was very recently
mentioned in your own columns in an approving manner.
I think Mr. Samuel Holme has the credit of the idea ; I
should like to yield him credit for forwarding it to com-
pletion. The modes operandi is by cutting a new street
through from Cook-street to St. George's-hall ; the pro-
perty which would be required is at present of small value
compared to what it would be, and iu a sanatory point of
view this scheme would he attended with considerable ad-
vantages. The street would be about half a mile long,
and would (in addition to these advantages) be an ad-
mirable means of increasing the enthusiasm and of honour-
ing our most gracious sovereign when she visits us again
(as I am willing to believe she will do) at the formal open-
ing of St. George's-hall.
Our festivities came sadly short of those of Manchester,
and the expenditure on our part must have been consider-
ably beneath that in which they voluntarily involved
themselves. Surely the loyalty of Liverpool must not for
the-future rank after Manchester, a place where, even its
own inhabitants will acknowlege, selfishness is the ani-
mating principle. I do not know by what course we could
more effectually, or more usefully, emulate our manufac-
turing neighbours, than by constructing this thoroughfare,
by which means a considerable amount of private capital
would be circulated, which now lies dormant ; work would
be given. to the operative classes; the Corporation would