The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1832-12-14 00:00:00

dt,ered no measure more calculated to ensure the freedom of
'e people, or the security of the corporation, than that • the
" raraunity should have the opportunity of electing them. • Ano-
tiler subject was, at this moment, much agitated,—the question of
Church Reform. Himself a member of the Church of England, and
an admirer of her pure doctrines, he was no advocate of tithes or pro-
tll'neplurality. Ambition, he thought, should form a trifling part of
' character, and the working clergy - ought to be better
tetalinerated. He had read, with pain and indignation, the sufferings
brwhich certain religious ministers had received from our colonial
ea,
• --"kez. and he was sure there was no man !present who could-
. Zivocate such conduct, if so he would call upon him to vindicate what
41114 heard with pain relative to such brutal treatment ; he (Mr,
art) Could not, as an Englishman, refrain froul expressing his
44{4gnation at such conduct. The time was come when the question
„ .
einancipatiou must be settled by the Parliament of the country, se-
, esa
ded by the people of old England. Prompt measures must be
s'u-for the abolition of the odious system, but he was anxious to do
uncial good, unaccompanied by individual evil and wilting to allow
A,*c immediately affected by the change, a sufficient remuneration
cugil he was not of those who would make emancipation
demand on compensation, but as far as they were able to emancip,te
1i341Y, to do so, and not to allow emancipation to depend on the poli-
fqukstion of compensation. He was an advocate for the education
tlhe people at home and universal peace abroad, he was convinced
7te was no greater security for property, than the sound education
ct the people—for the government no securer support. Peace was the
Cte'te for which man was destined by his Creator, and, at which. he
rklil ultimately arrive, although now, carried away by his passions.
;01:amerce was the younger sister of peace and could not exist with
ar• He trusted that the war bequeathed by the late adminiatration
Efor which they were now paying the legacy duty, would soon be
tlialted. Was their no ether' enemies of Comtheree besides
Yes, monopoly. The _ two great monopolies to he en-
tintered by their Representatives were, the, China trade, and
`4O trade in corn, and' he knew nothing- more calculated for the
i~ltef of the country than cheapness of subsistence and an exten-
lk of our commerce ; than, he would repeat, by giving the
ring classes a cheap subsistence, and extending this commerce
theaaa regions of the earth. Were there. any more questions on
"4181 sit was necessary to state his! opinion ?! Yes ; the vote by ballot
k(lthe Septennial Act. Of the former he had read much—considered
a,nd could conscientiously declare, that he had never heard
NY sound reason against it ; and if any thing was wanting to con-
" ce him that it was necessary, it was afforded him during his
eksens canvass, for some respectable persons had said to him,
*heti he solicited their vote, " We coincide with your opi-
wish you every success, but must candidly confess that in-
''test and intimidation prevent our giving you a vote."—(• Name,
44'e,' and great confusion.) -Ile was asked to name the in-
d,Ltiduals, but he must say that he spoke in the presence of many who
-7`3118 knew the persous, and (amid speak to the fact.---(Great cheering
"Id vociferating cries of ' Name, name.') Those who wished them
led knew them as well as he (Mr. Ewart.,—(Here the cries o.
P4tcble' were most Vehement.) Ile ought not basely to tell svhaL
28 confided to him by another man, and would not do so. lIJ
•8 aware that the gentlemen who wished him to name, did so be-
Aekse they knew he would
er not betra.y confidence, and not because they
rqihted the fact. (Ches and hisses.) lie was favourable to shorten-
tkthe duration of Parliaments, for he thought them twice as long as
ought to be, (cheep,) and it was right they should be shortened
tli e came before them backed by no junto ; he was not put forward by
professedly to advocate the interests of the town, but in reality
t'''ir own ; but he threw himself on the whole town, and, having done
• duty conscientiously, hoped he did nut do so in vain. Mr. Ewart
)74 retirelearaid.st great cheering, after having entreated them to hear
4 opponents ealiuly.
totord SaNnoat then ascended the platform, and came forward
address the assemblage in front. He ' was asserted by much
hiNsition, and nungleci cheers and hisses. With great difficulty
„ commenced his speech as folloWs :—Mr. (Mayor and Gentle-
come before you, not called into the field by a self-
n• cted. junto. • come before you presenting myself as a can-
LLtate ior your suffrages upon the simple ground of my own
erinciples, and independentay of all party.and seatish influence.
ti(ebeers•.) I have been summoned hy a requisition of gen-
t.tlien connected with every branch of trade which .supports
Os great community, of peirsons belonging to the freemen, the
„1-tsekeepers, and to every osa-ss of society amongst us.—(Cheers
'"Ltd hiss(;,) t es, gentlemen, by persons not only of the highest
91iaeciability, but by .uiivieadas in every sphere of our local
line is not au interest Connected with :this
,port
/tvitlich has not its representative among the nanies attached to
rep uisitron.—((sheers and uproar.) ['l he disorder here be-
eduie so tumultuous that Lord ..a:untion was compelled to address.
'osell to the 'gentlemen inside the hustings.) I -repeat, con -
o,lled his lordstap, that came here, not aa the representative
t.,`„,4 junto, nor oi a single branch of trade, .but astlie represen-
ve of the commercial in of this commultity.—(Cheere.)
a 'at, sir, are those new, those disorganizing • doctrines, which
ite are
„now to:a of ? e are told that it is the shopkeepers of
," town that we are to appeal to.—(Latighlorandcheeri.). I ap-
era]. to neither one class nor another : I-call upon the mer-
rlants, the shopkeepers, the freemen, the ••nava electors, or
faiekeepers alt alike.—(Cheers.) Are these attempts really to
k'al:e, us suppose that the- shopkeepers have a distinct inter-
kit? Uo not all our interests hang together as:the links :Elf a
49.:deuchain, of which one cannot tie broken, without the whole
being destroyeu ? I our told, that as an individual con- •
n•
cted with-the aristocracy of the country, it is improper for Me
LP aspire to the representation of a commercial town, and that
)1.1 ought to choose a parson who is conversant with mercantile
Here is another of those disorganizing doctrines, the •
endeney of which as to prod rice a separatism /aerieen the great
'll-terests of the country, and to divide this one against an- •
(Cheers- and digapprOlialjona) I •do not know.where the
qltierneii whir make these objections can have read the- consti-
'°/1, or what kind of politica' economy it is which teaches them
',la, an v °lour interests are distinct and separate, or that one eau
ta.arieh at the expense of another.—(Applause.) Certainly
ive riot mace that discovery, nor sarcad the constitution, and
sure the iutedigent masses of thistown. mill not coincide 41,
a tem. It has been asserted that I .came here ,as•there-i
I`l'vseotative of a particutar ciass.—(cries of " No, no," and
git•
approhation.) t cm not place myself upon that ground.'
• tatitled to say, anti I say With pride, that I. amthe re presen-
tative of the who.e.—(Louti cheers.) Of those men in every
~.(4•348 who are intimately connected with the commerce of the
rort and have.a right to share in its .representatiou.
Gentle-
tell, I feel sum that I stand upright before. you. I feel that I
4ve cleared myself from those base and calumnious insinua--
ris which preceded my arrival in the town.—(Yes„) Of this:
alh confident, for I know the effect which my explanation has
."act in every quarter.—(Cheers.) I have .witnessed that effect
wherever I have been; and • I truce the consequence in a general.
()pinion in my favour.-a(Cheers.) But what is it, gentlemen,
for those explauatiebe ? What is .it ',have-been guilty
7f that required so much explamttion ? maid antlemen,
hear,ha
Live scorned to he the spa e‘of party.—(laelleciaa
• alact Bravol") Becattse I have defiled the servility of party,
41h1 chosen to follow my own independent judgment.--(Benew-
eg charting.) And because I considered -.thyseit,niore as your
‘telkesentative_than as the ells-neat,: of any private or.pauticutar
‘trews.—(Cheers.) Gate-lien-len. it is tdr easy ca saripie:teNk
0 f•
vL'ow ,14indly •any ,1301{TS.0 •or SC I; -PI
ipayrnaka you may .vielatc
'eDlir own coukeiCtice, 4.11 aaaebkiage yoaiscaf ail
.for prieciple, to 1.0;3 as yqe aeliere to cue peaty ;
the shield Of .thg broad partyarc,eing. is:thrown oyei• you tam
'rider that - yeti may •Sheitea •xottreetf-from all
(Very great applatiseo •IStieh'geutiernon, has neve, Been
course, at anyaane.ofonyilife • aittbasilong,ael lit e andhreathe,
!"I[l;ean,take:sapartittpublic 'fiffairs,•roilie shall be a free antaau
, • '4dependent course—( ehemeld mingled with ()pp-
ka
'lion.) Is it, indeed, fit that -you'r .repietentaute should surr
,Nnier himself to the leading-strings of any one party ?—(gll'u,•
iti that .he should '
L4derhimself bound to•aequieseoineveky.propositioniwtiah they
'441, ghtimake, add to go;akortg: faillktheyt Yalta (Went ?-a(l'ap-
I'taUs(..) I do not,halimiectluttaan);h• Js,yqux-Ippinio ; I feel, oil
.le.coritrary,.that there isr risitlg. miliguation I eiich con-
fl)4ptible catinsela.—(cheeq.) gentlemen, avail those gates-
, 13'lis to which 'I referred wheii had „the' honour of aapearitig:
affore a Portion of- your coraimmily the tl 'xclionge, 'it may, ..
needdess,for me .to enter into- futtlier esptanntioin.'
lY political•Viows are•understood by-you altatind, aarticulat,.
I'Y:opinions.upon. theasliwnqueatidn: I [need not t• aich lawn
• nriL again, ti3ulatiara la ame jtapic ishiuls tale,as ka
tkiirlaaa4 togp,t, I.vraniki, .for women t, a. foss ae If. It.
utiverheen any ;part .14).4g1it the 4erab, reegea.,. eacore.
I hat;( §IIPPOVIed !every .napasure
.for lite caa:a,aal .
caulitptOtS, so in every period, 6tray life have I.haen a rlwti.it.o time
eilgious freedom of my countrymen-
h Thia .
hale done •tci- the sacrifice o6office, #1.0114 cot: less not: to
t,
destruction of my own creed--not to• the ocaratiowiug af!!
•
Of l °Be barriers which have,made:that creed :the -notioual redgigit
ay countra7,-(Cheers.),No, gentlemen, thave.done
'L„view to strengthen her institutions. .my own inaid,ther(
tno greater or more momentous question, amoa a.ll tbat,
t..,brpaoilt before parliament; thin the question of church re-
••„"rt•-414ear, hear.) question,- gentfeincii, ia.•-tib' new,
Dalian tune or my family. Through the cxertiaus of my

father, titre is at this moment L.3a),000. a year distributed amongst
the curates and working ciergy, eiore than before-the -passing
of his curates' aua cheers.) Ail-those with whom
I am connected, have ever dote as much as they could to-reform
the churci, so -far as was consistent with the happiness of the
people, aid the spirit of our beet institutions, and it- will be my
endeavour, as your representative, to obtain a sate and moderate
reform, tc widen and consolidate the basis of our ancient church
esteiblishrtent. (Cheers.),l appeal then to the electors of every- class
for their rapport, and I have no doubt as to the manner-in which
that appear-will be auswered.—i have before Bc(3n a similar excite-.
tue-ntto the present; but what was toe resort then? It proved the
futility oft vexatious oppeeition, and now I have been amongst
every class and tried the eeetings oteach,and my experience tens
me that theattempt will be equeily vain. (Cheers.) Gen tiemen,
the questicu of national education has -been much auntie(' to.•
(Reeve) It is a subject which I have nearest my heart. • I
:Agree ,eordially with those who think that a sound and safe
establishment of social order can rest on no other -foundation
than a solid and reiielious education. .1 am not of those philo-
sophers and theorists' of the present day who think you can
dispense vith reAgion in the school, who think you can safely-
cultivate the head whilst you neglect the .heart. (Hear,- and
loud cheers.) - Education so conducted appears to tme like
raising a grand superstructure without a solid foundation. Gen-
tlemen, 1 have supported education it
,every branch from the
-first moment of my public life; (Cheers) but I wish to see reli-
gion made. the first principle of the edu.cation of a responsible
and an immortal being. (Applause.) it has been said that I
opposed a Tote in the House of Commons for Irish national
education. :Gentlemen, I did no such, thing. I wished to place
it upon the: basis which has ben found so eminently effectual
in Scotland. I disapproved of national fands being granted on
condition of the bible being excluded. (Cheers.) Not that
I wished the reading of the bible. should be •inade •coinpulsory,
but because I objected to its being made a condition of voting
national funds that that book should -be banished from the I
school during certain hours, - Upon this ground I acted in my
place in Parliament. There was another ground. What was
the situation of Ireland? Education there had for many, years
been going. on throughthe aid-of numerous classes in the com-
munity; but after a lapse of time the Roman Catholics 'oh-. I
jetted to the manner in which that education was conducted.
In the state of religious feeling which then existed, that Cosaide
no longer be properly called a national system of education to
which the great body of teachers in one. faith were opposed.
What was the case with regard to the vete last year ? Did
not the whole body of the' Protestants oppose it? (" Yes.")
With two or three exceptions all the Protestant Episcopacy
did .so. The Protestant Synod of Ulster did the same. When,
therefore, I see the Presbyterian and Episcopal body, forming •
no small proportion of the influence and intelligence of the
flatlet, when I found them taking, the same course as the
Catholics . had done against the iaildare-street Society, I
thought it best not to introduce a system against which the
great body of the people's instructors had' so strong an aver- ,
awn. I felt myself perfectly safe ou this ground, and I
appeal to any man who will hear fair discussion,- if on any
principles of sound policy or conscientious dealing, if I was
not justified in the line of conduct I pursued. (Loud cheers.)
Gentlemen, with respect to the charge brought against me, that,
it is not fit that I should be the representative of a. great com-
mercial body, because Lord John Russell has said, that every
commercial town should send up a member of its own com-
munity, I would appeal from Lord John Russell to the mer-
chants themselves.- They are the best judges, and not a lord
whose chief acquaintance is with the lanced interests of the
country.—(Hear, hear.) I recollect well, when I first saw
Lord Grey, before I took office under him, I inquired in what
shape he intended to bring forward his plan of reform. He
.said, " I cannot tell exactly what that measure will be ; it is not
.yet ripe; but I will tell you this, it shall not go in any degree
to sever that mixture between the two bodies, the lords and the
commons, which I think is so salutary an ingredientin•the con-
stitution."—(Cheers.) On this ground, then, I rest. If Lord
-John Russell is quoted against me upon one point, I may-surely
'quote Lord Grey on auother.—(Appiause.) I believe that upon
this fusion of the two bodies the safety and equilibrium of the
.whole depends.—(Cheers.) If they are divided the system can
no longer work. It is by this fusion, this entire mixture that
the whole machine is kept in -harmony, continues its equal
.course in a manner which has defied every attempt.at imitation,
, and which philosophers had before considered impossible,—
(Loud cheers.) Gentlemen, Ido not know that I need tres-
pass further on your time, There is one subject upon- which it
may be right to touch, the question of monopolies,—(Hear,
hear.) I will not use big words, and say monopolies are odious,
abolish them at once. They may be odious, but it is a grave
subject to destroy existing interests. It was laid down by a
great authority, and I beheve'it -to be a wise expression that all
change is an evil. This was the opinion of Lord Althorp,
though thachanr might have-its atteudant advantages, still in
itself it-was no evil.—(Hear.) As the inhabitants of a cot-1111ex-
cial town, you -must, .above all others, be sensible how even
, changes for the better may,. in a great de_gree, effect aud.tend to
destroy existinginterests.—(Cheere4 Before I hazarded such
innovations .I would inquire if the .advantages promised were a
sufficient.compeneation. I Monopolies are an evil. They might
have had their utility in the infancy of commerce: but When
once capital accumulated, and intelligence penetrated to every
part of the globe; they become no longer useful. We should
look about us and see the best means of getting rid of every in-
convenient restriction which they have imposed. Thus far I
concur it the remarks which have been made here;- but I will .
not-make large professions, -without qualification, which would
lead• to expectations on -the -part of. trey constituents -which I
might notbe able to fulfil.—(Loud cheers.) There are many
'persons for annihilating the protection of -every -branch at na-
-live industryehut are-ave sure we shall. -not be instrumental iu
their destruotion, or that it-will be-safe to destroy every protec-
tion of-existing manufactures ?—(Cheers.) •With.regtua to the
protection ofinatufactured silk,- the protection of manufactured
corn,—of almost all our interests, indeed, 1 am.not-ahleto enu-
merate them,: which are-more or-less protected ; and -I do con-
ceive that that man does not look•deeplyinto what he is- going
Ludo ewho .would-say, "-Do away with all .restrictions, and caSt
aside all consequences' of the change."—(Load cheering.)
The distribution of-- wealth is one- of the objects of the greatest
importance. It ;is distributed. in certain pages; if by great
changes you give an equivalent to one party, that which yeti
-add to 0112 .1)17:illt fa of the-population is,no
.compensatien for the
etaisery,..aud „distress which you inflict upon anether.--(Laud
' cheers.) • These, .gentlemen, are my ilaeliaga; they are feel
-lugs Iberalaiiut modcrate.---(4pplause.) 'i hey ~are fee:trigs
favourable. eratatan' jeut, not to deatauctiou.Leud (heels.)
My view has always been, that;the object of aorta ,shoued ,be
to bring iback the country- to',its orig,ntalsenstitntion.--;-(Loud
cheers.) Therefore, .before I Preceedeto:aecertain whother the
increased imfisteuee now given to the-constituent Lc> y weer their
representatives, .before Lascertain-whetherthis is 1101-00 Much,
I will not assist in putting into their hands au additional Owes..
—(Hear.) ft.is riot vela, likely, at this matteut, thateetr ;re- ;
.presentatives shouldloOk. coo liatie to their constituents, or that
they to mark the effect whichtheir coueuetwillhave,
upon their.constittienlea Let 'us .pause, then,hefote wei.do any. I
-
mew to make, a derelserate berg,- a Jody- of ;tietegatee.—(Geeet
appiause, and some: hissing, wito an exclamation of "The -vote
by ballot.") Gentlemen, :there is. at attetopt, .an attempt which
I do uot.leclieve wilt be.ellectual, to do away, with.the intluenae
of property. Let us ace whether it creates too lunch, before
,you wake fartherthangee to eimiaishtliatinfluenec.—:(Cheers.).
latia ea advocate:for freedom, but at the.,eame time, I .do ,not
.wish to destioy that infinence
.which preperty and intelligence
.gives, aey mote tieea I shontelevish a mat's v,otet6 deprive him
of his lise.ibooth is now-too much the fashion to tall a man
eteets leteet,,,Lec,tresette.will net conform to the newest
opinions, wilith just please luecafree they happet to be the latest
bedicion seutatp.--e(Clicerse) -Lord Brougham may not,be called
an illiberal, I.believehearißnot be ctispoaedto keep .in •the
van .of mantle and he who-,is.to,dey a liberal-may he fill-
bei,al
,teeeterittw. Loth :however, has given his
,Prtiltio,4 chat itele not an taperitient.to he tried at this
.Geittitemeti, lateed noteruether treepess,upon your time. ,),beg
pee,lett. for tliOttist y awe incorrect mentor:in Vital have de-
aivta-cd,lity.eentiments delete you. I. can claim no praise for'
tee:el:ea. eenientai,s ; I us,sully wh speak at conies
.bcaere :me to
tt;el4.eet-of my power. ,It lam this way that I have advocated
i.your 14.tere in-the .11euee,o1Commons,,end I trust I may .say
' .ttaliaa..not,becti altogether-itetlietente-s-(cheers.) If you should.
iteatinarttitti tie to the henotiralite post.of your,repteetaitative,
,theearee,zatel end devotion shall be tippliea.to,yOur servite, and
the ague asaitleou, though iudepeuctent,.eitettien he again at
aaver ttiaposail.
The noble lord. concluded his speech. amidst • much -applause,
-and, having bowed totheartultitture in front of the hustings, re-
tired into thehu.dingr.

Mr. Tironw,y then came forward, but as his partisans had
not thought proper to hear Lord Saudon, those of the noble lord
Sirtioward were deJerthrued that he should not be heard.
o.i.owever the noise having partially subsided he eammeneednis
address; and said—The nine had at last arrived when it was
Their duty to return.two members to the House of Commons.
eleetion,Was to decide whether the. people of LiNerpow
Nvoittil return two .reformers tO.parliament or those who would
-inreede the measures of au. enlig-htened administration Which had
mreeinertitsVedges in relbraung the representation. They-had
anoler candidate more to liCar, and he hoped they would give
him a. patient hearing,, and as he begged them to hear another,
so;heahm:begged•they would hear him. (The uproar at this
umnient became so:outrageous that Mr. Rathbone and Mr.