The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-06-11 00:00:00

June 11, 1844.

COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.

_winesda suayi monthly meeting of the Council was held on
last.

FINANCE COMMITTEE.
.. ft appeared from the proceedings of this committee that
Pe sub-committee appointed by them had made various
Hreuiries and take', a considerable body of evidence since
hthe last meeting of the Council, touching the conduct of
% Rishton and Mr. Woods, the district surveyors.
f r °Pinion was that Mr. Rishton's character was free
!from blemish
; but that. as regarded Mr. Woods, the case
as verY different. The latter bad, however, tendered his
Zignation of the office, and thus the sub-committee had
of opinion
the pain of further investigation. They were
or opinion that the manner in which Mr. Rishton had dis-
eharged
the
duties under the building act, fully entitled
him to te the increase of salary which the Finance Commit-
but e had heretofore recommended the Council to sanction ;
b,-t,tetheY thought it merited consideration as to whether a
r distribution of the duties of the surveyors might
totlie seeurt d.
in.11,..r,:,,9• H. LAWRENCE moved the confirmation of the
+:o°--","'ngs, and that the salary be increased from £2OO
,tbiseno per annum. It would require some considera-
be filled as to how the place occupied by Mr. Woods should
; and if the council agreed to the moo, it would
'nth the understanding that Mr. Rishtonti'sn salary be
increased, subject to some better distribution of his duties
w
tlci those of the sub-surveyors under him, as the wisdom
tettathienen. ealth and Fire Committees might think fit to de-
Su THOMAS BRANCKER seconded the motion.
th r. ASPINALL did not rise to oppose it, but merely to
....row out a
suggestion. He thought that, before Mr.
;40mi:rods:a successor were appointed, the sub-committee
e° from the Finance, Health, and Fire Committees,
should define the duties of the sub-surveyors, and that the
surveying department could not be carried on satisfacto-
rily unless they had one head. The business could be
17trettinag m
t the. same expense if more men were employed,
four sub.swvßeyishton for instance, at the head, and having
ors instead of two, as was the number at
Iroesent • but the head should be answerable for all. He
ryua,gnahtsto: Nhfl terirl.ee Rishton fully entitled to the increase of sa-
sery
wasnotamore efficient, honest, or upright
Corporation.
The proceedings. including the recommendation as to
the increase, were accordingly confirmed ; so also was a
s the
recommend, nsdi ad tei oonf to sell the reversion of a piece of land on 1
Myrtle-street and west side of Sugnall-
t , uPort which a Presbyterian Chapel is intended to
be erected.

• WATCH COMTTEE.
The proceedings of the Watch, Lighting, Cleasing, and
Pire-PoliceCommittees, comprising an increase to the
"1811' of m r. Capes Ashlin, secretary and cashier, from
t2OO to
£240 per annum, were next read. These proceed-
ings contained a report from Mr. Miller, the head con-
stable, in which be recommended that, as a deficiency of
Water was frequently experienced at fires occurring within
the borough, eight new water-carts or tanks be procured
--the carts to be kept constantly filled, and mounted upon
patent springs with patent axles. Dir. 1-1. Hughes offered,
for a sum of £42, to fit up St. Nicholas's Church clock ;
but the committee stated that the experiment was unsa-
tisfactory, and requested that he should put the clock into
the state in which it was at the time he commenced his
experiments. The committee resolved that in consequence
of the manner in which Mr. Whitty offered to give in-
structions to his successor, &c., he be paid his salary up
o the quarter ending the 27th July next; and it was re-
etnmended that a drill-master should be appointed to the
constabulary force.
The proceedings were confirmed, and Mr. Lloyd was
added to the committee in place of Mr. Boutflower.

THE DOCK COMMITTEE.—THE DOCK BILL.
The proceedings of the Dock Committee under the ex-
isting acts having been read and confirmed, the Dock
Bill, as amended and proposed to be amended, was brought
wader consideration. Clauses 83 and 84, with reference
to the casting of mud, sand, clay, or rubbish, into the
tidal waters of the Mersey, were read, so also was clause
135, which conveyed a power to remove vessels ; and
rclausehtel49, which granted a power to sell land not required
Purposes of the act.
Mr. VANS observed that, in the discussion before the
Dock Committee, he objected to any powers being given
which would authorise the letting or disposing in any way
of the dock quays ; and he believed Mr. Bramley-Moore
had given an assurance that the amendments would not
involve any such right.
for the
course thg
e we"cin BRAuLny-Moom said the quays were necessary
of the docks and, if this were so, of
Power did not extend to the quays at all.
the Mr.
EvANS believed the Town-Clerk would say that
La
s..Y might sell the rig of buiin warehouses on them.
e had no confidence iht
n any system that would divide the
management or the ownership of the warehouses on the
ck 4"Y, ; and, therefore, he bad on all occasions pro-
th t
?d against any clause or amendment which would give
the ir°ck
tvarehousee"unittee the right to dispose of the quays, or
s
Ight to let any other parties than themselves erect
upon them. He wished Mr. Bramley-Moore
ucstnelez s
rPati himself in a decided way as to what was his own
stana ding on the su
apprehended that, under the words
of the clause, the dock quays being reserved for general
use, there might be an erection upon pillars,--for instance,
Ifora warehouse, and which warehouse might be used
consistently with the recited acts and the present act. The
clause would certainly let in an erection of that kind.
wha
Mr. EVANS again urged Mr. Bramley•Moore to declare
t his understanding was upon the subject.
Mr. LACE said Mr. Moore's opinion would be imma-
terial, as the question mif its here
houldaever beeicontemplated
ded.
er
veeAwittlN said that
to 'ir`r.
arehouses on the quays, the subject would come
be
Mr. the Council as a specific motion.
vAxs said the cause of his being so anxious was,
that be had not the slightest doubt but any warehouses on
the dock
quays, connected with the docks under the dock.
estate management, would hereafter clear the docks alto-
gether of every thing like rates. (Hear.) But, if those
quays were handed over in a jobbing way, and furtively
got into the bands of individuals, the hundreds of thou-
sands or millions of money which they would produce
Would go into private pockets, and leave the harbour of
Liverpool under all its ancient rates and burdens.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said that if be understood the
Town-Clerk aright, the case stood thus :—that, if the bill
passed, the Dock Committee might sanction an erection
to be managed by some joint-stock company.
The TOWN •CLERK.—But reserving the ground floor or
quay.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.—Yes; but virtually handing
over the possession of it to a joint-stcck company. He
thought they should soon know what they were about.
He would just as soon be ruled by the Dock Trustees as
by a joint-stock company ; and if warehouses were to be
built round the quays, be thought the management of
both docks and warehouses would go on better if in the
hands of the Dock Trustees. He had, however, always
been opposed to warehouses on the quays.
Mr. HUGH HORNBY said the original intention of the
Dock Committee, by the clause, was to enable them to
dispose of any surplus land. They never contemplated
to obtain powers to lease the dock quays. He thought the
clause ought to be so worded as to carry out the real in-
t ntions of the committee; yet he saw no objection to it
tbit stood at present, for though it gave the committee
..eyosvers in question, those powers would not be car-
out•ru without the consent of the Council, and there
out."( Eiintention at the present moment of carrying them
The several) clauses were then agreed to.
IlaTishipsr MARKETS COMMITTEE.
that theylmit presented a report, in which they stated
• had taken into consideration the several memo-
lag for a change in the market-day, and suggest-
,l,l,g the earlier closing of the markets on Saturday nights.
aThey conceived that the changing of the market-day from
eturday to Friday would be merely nominal, inasmuch
the rich would still continue to make Saturday their
Market-day The only real benefit which could arise
Would be by closing the markets earlier on Saturday
nights. They thought that if this rule could be generally
enforced, it would be beneficial ; but, until then, it would
be unjust to the market shopkeepers to compel them to
close, when their customers would thereby be driven to
other places, where they would get provisions of an infe-
rior quality, and be obliged to pay higher prices.
The proceedings were confirmed; and Mr. Kaye was
added to the committee in place of Mr. Boutflower.
EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
The average attendance at the schools, from the 24th
of April to the 29th of May, was reported to be as fol-
lows :

1.43 total, 596.
otal, 511.
be—at
North—Boys, 234 ; girls' an
189 - inf ts'
South—Boys, 192 ; girls, 132 ; infants
The number on the books was statea to
North, 512 ; at the South, 673. The committee were of
opinion that the necessity of continuing the Superinten-
dent of the Schools no longer existed. Mr. Stone's ser-
vices will, therefore, be discontinued on and after the
30th of September next.
The proceedings were confirmed ; and Mr. G. G.
il°rnb.Y was added to the committee in place of Mr.
Bouttlower.

OBSERVATORY COMMITTEE.
This committee reported that, after having taken into
consideration a variety of contradictory memorials re.
aPecting the rating of chronometers at the Observatory,
they had authorised the observer to receive chronometers,
and to rate them- at a charge of 7s. 6d. each.
Mr. BIREETT thought this was the time to take an
?P.Mion as to whether the Council were about to turn re-
interfellien
etaoinicier.adesmen. He moved as an amendment—" That,
tion to g that the recommendation would be an unjust
ters to the with the retail tradesmen, it be an instruc-
e committee to confine the rating of chronome-
hose
gaged • belonging either to a maker or others en-
T. In their repair, or to any public officer."
grounnedrlehdment, not baying been seconded, fell to the
_a eters at
Mr• p
nom • Altxtrt denounced the system of regulating chro-
any price and said that, if the Observatory
gwraattezted for the pUblic good, they ought to be rated
1181
The y.
lip, au Question was then taken by the members standing
diglet.'; the proceedings were confirmed with only two
--enta,—Messrs. Birkett and Parker.
...Mr. ot HEALTH COMMITTEE.
.11qr --"x was added to this committee in place of
• Boutflower.
Mr. THE
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THE CORONER'S ACCOUNTS.
;Pnnr; •" LAWRENCE moved that the Coroner's ac-
iz--; amounting to £lOl 4s. 6d., be referred to the
til!nce Committee for payment.
Mr. 13RAMLEY•MOORE expressed a hope that the Fi-
nanceo:L Committee would direct their attention to those
'counts, as they were increasing month after month.
according to the
present list, 29 post-mortem examina-
,7 os had been held,—three on persons who had been
'downed, and who were known, and none on three others,
:2° had been drowned, and who were unknown. There
-vre great discrepancies in the accountb ; and, in his opi-