The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-04-23 00:00:00

STEAM-BOAT BUILDING ON THE CLYDE•

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The " Engineer," which ran during a portion ofsittaepsarnetryseeearnstt
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has been lengthened and improved, and is a remarkattli_,
fine vessel. The " Superb" has also been lengthened, and
so improved as to entitle it to rank among the new vessels
of the season. A beautiful new steamer named the "
vincible" was lately launched, and is now plying on. the
Largs and Millport station. Three new steamers for the,
Castle Company are expected to be ready shortly, and
will no doubt sustain the high reputation which " the
Castles" have so long enjoyed. At Paisley there are n°
fewer than four new steamers in course of erection. Tw°
of these are intended to ply in connection with the Green-
ock Railway—the one to Helensburgh, and the other t
Rothsay ; the third is to run in conjunction with the 1,011.
Baisbane and the Lady Kelburae on the Largs station'
and the fourth is a small pleasure yacht for Lord Eg,ll_.„
'
ton. Two other steam pleasure yachts are erecting era
where—one of them by Messrs. Thomas Wingate uer
Co., to be fitted up with the screw-propeller; the orb
by Mr. Robert Napier, for Ashton Smith, Esq., late M• 'P'
on the ordinary principle. The spirited firm of 10,e6 0
Thomson and Macconnell have ordered a braless,,o
steamer as a companion to the Shanden. It is, we 'p-
to
derstand, in an advanced state, and is to be called w
" Dolphin.". We hear also of a fine steamer being nes' a
finished to ply between Glasgow and Stranraer, en-let's the
the " Albion," and of another beautiful new vessel,
station for which is not yet fixed, to be fitted up cr'
Kebble's patent paddle. A new steamer is alreadyafloio,..„
intended to ply upon Lochlomond. This will make thoTe
steamers on Lochlomond this season ; and as they
owned, we believe, by rival companies, the public rep
anticipate " cheap fares" on this Queen of Scottish 1a
for
Mr. William Napier is building two small steam-tugs
0o
the Forth and Clyde Canal, to be propelled by scrrs
instead of paddles. In addition to the steamers which
ip
have enumerated, a number of large steam-ships are pt
progress. Among these may be mentioned a magnu'gr•.
vessel built by Mr. Steel, Greenock, the engines by
,is"
Robert Napier, to supply the place of the " Coluowor
in the Liverpool and Boston trade, and to be called,,
believe, by the same name. The " City of Londoescith
another fine steam-ship in the course of erection if
the exception of the " Great Britain," the latter,
the the largest vessel ever built of iron—she is to rn oat
tween Aberdeen and London. Three large Goverintober,
mail-packets are being built and fitted out by Mr'
ndt
Napier, at Govan : their names are the " Bloodhou
the " Jackal," and the •' Lizard." In Mr. .D!!`i'd (or
building-yard there is also an iron gun-brig eree,teer
the Indian Government, The same eminent ellgode
lately completed the " Dundalk," a magnilfice,et..„ool'
steamer, now plyinv, between Dundalk and Livcollots-
Two large vessels for' the Ardrossan and Fleetwo ",/,00
tion are building by Messrs. Tod and M'Gregor._e'be;
firm are likewise engaged on a large vessel to plYe,,Zio _
lieve, between Liverpool and Belfast. There or
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fewer than from twenty to thirty steamers—some.ete
of heavy tonnage—and representing a vast egg. 'coup'
capital—either lately completed, or at present 111
of erection on the Clyde.— Citizen.

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THE PROPOSED LIVERPOOL DOCKS,

HOUSE OF COMMONS COMMITTEE.
WEDNESDAY.
The committee on this bill resumed its sittings this clay,
at twelve o'clock.
Messrs. Austin, Talbot, and the Recorder of Liverpool
„
Henderson,)
appeared in support of it ; and Messrs.
tl lyard and Webster against it.
Mr. John Hartley and his father (Mr. Jesse Hartley)
Were the first witnesses called, and they were examined at
tome length in support of the original plan as lodged,
atatiog that, although other plans had been made by them
accordance with suggestions by the committee, yet
the accordance
were still of opinion their original plans were the
Itreat advisable to carry out. Mr. John Hartley stated
be pal estimated cost of the works at the north end to
of 47'465, and at the south end £269,976, and he was
timoaPtinion the works could be completed within those es-
north
whether
A breakwater as a protection to the gates at the
finally decided
c! was on the plan, but it was not
rter it should be erected or not. There was good
chorage all along the Cheshire shore, much better than
the Liverpool side, and this anchorage was of great im-
botPnrtance to the port of Liverpool. Mr. John Hartley did
k
now whether the conservators of the river had given
permission for the erection of the breakwater, or that they
Ivotild do so ; but it was a fact that the navigation of the
nter never was better than at present. Mr. Hartley con-
rmed the testimony of his son in every particular. He
gave evidence also of the want of dock accommodation,
thand Particularly of a large steam dock at the north end of
_e town; that it, as well as the timber trade, should be
'lle
aPt separate and that the juncon between the canal and
docks was; required for the convenience and advantage
Or the port. In answer to questions by Mr. Hildyard, be
a!id he had been asked his opinion respecting the expe-
diency of a dock in Wallasey Pool, and he had said a dock
ought be conveniently constructed there for vessels lying
Up.

._Mr. D. 1114 Iver was next called, and his evidence went
show the necessity of a large
dock for steamers, and
tf the advantage to be derived by having all the steam
xtro ade together, at the north end of the town. He does
approve of docks on the Cheshire coast, and kr.ows
nothing about Wallasey Pool.
Mr. Martin gave similar testimony. In cross-exami-
nation
and should sa I e had known the port for twenty years,
tenths, of th a considerable portion, probably seven-
e whole commerce of Liverpool passed into
the the
interior, chiefly to the manufacturing districts, and a
great portion of the exports are brought from the manu-
facturing districts also. On re-examination, he said
host of the manufacturing towns were on the Lancashire
aide of the Mersey, and a large portion of the exports
Were brought by railway to Liverpool.
Mr. George Kendall, one of the Dock Committee, and
chairman of the Shipowners' Association, gave evidence
of the great want of further dock accommodation being
required. He believed that at his recent election he suc-
ceeded in consequence of being of opinion tbat docks were
required both north and south, in opposition to his oppo-
nent, who was against the south docks. In cross-exami-
nation, he admitted Wallasey Pool would be a convenient
site for a dock ; but if it were merely a half-tide basin, he
would not take his vessels there.

Mr. M`Bride, master of the Clarence Dock, was next
Called, and his evidence went to prove that further dock
accommodation was required. His cross-examination
was deferred until to-morrow.
At the rising of the committee, Mr. Hildyard asked
the ch iirman to report to the house that Messrs. Aikin
and Evans had declined to give evidence before the com-
mittee, in order that a summons might be issued. This
was agreed to, and the committee adjourned.

The com THURSDAY.
mittee met at the usual hour this morning,
when Mr. M` Bride was called, and, in answer to a ques-
tion from Mr. Hildyard, said he was in the employ of the
Dock Committee.
Mr. Austin.--You are not afraid to give your inde-
pendent opinion, notwithstanding that, are you?
Witness—No'.
Mr. Hildyard.—l should like to see an independent
witness called—we have not yet had one who is not under
the control of the Dock Committee?
examinEed
Mr. aston, master of the Brunswick Dock, was then
. the similar evidence to that already posed to to as to necessity of further dock accommodation,
as did Mr. Easton, master of the Queen's.
Mr. Stewart, of Liverpool, was the next witness, and
he proved the value of the land required ; that for the
north docks, belonging to the cot poration, he estimated at
M6,1:100, and that belonging to the Earl of Derby and
va141•1; S. Leigh, at £193,000.
l e*Weightman, architect, of Liverpool, deposed to the
Ratireof 127,563 square lands of land belonging to the
at the Dock Estate, proposed to be taken for docks
thatr South end, to be £208,205.
• Withers, the treasurer to the Dock Estate, stated
the income of the docks for the last five yers was
P 97,101, and the expenditure £848,243, including the
interest on dock bonds. The income of the estate had
til9oubled itself during the last sixteen years. The surplus
efrae iast. year was £76,039, so. that there would be no
ivt borrowing funds for the proposed docks.
Austin said he had now to enter upon another class
of evidence, and should ask the committee to adjourn
o-morrow
until t
• but before doing so he begged the com-
mittee to rescind the resolution come to yesterday, re-
sPectiog the application for the Speaker to issue his
warrant for the attendance of Messrs. Evans and Aikin.
neddes,ignated th • refusal to attend as a mere pretext,
after the
and
as the welerremem hers of the Dock Committee,
bill V body generally
had agreed to ask for the present
' were legally bound to further that bill, instead
of throwing obstacles in the way of procuring it. It
Would. therefore, be very improper on the part of the
committee to compel their attendance.
Mr. ll ild yard asked Mr. Austin to inform the committee
What was the nature of the evidence he proposed to give,
as on that would depend the question whether he should
press for the attendance of Messrs. Aikin and Evans.
Mr. Austin declined to state what his evidence was.
Lord Sandon suggested that the matter should be de-
ferred until the evidence given in support of the bill was
complete, when the question mieht be revived.
.Mr. Hrldyard acquiesced in this suggestion, and the
resolution of the comtnit tee was rescinded.
Mr. Hildvard then applied to the committee to examine
captain Evans, the conservator of the Mersey, as that
gentleman wishsd to return to Liverpool to-night.
Mr. Austin declined, on the gerund that he did not
know whether it would be necessary until the arrange-
Merits were complete with the Admiralty. He expect-d
they would have been complete last night, but a difficulty
had arisen which, probably, would be settled so as to
enable him to go on to-morrow.
An honourable member complained of being called to-
gether merely for an hour and a half and then adjourning.
Mr. Austen assured the committee that he had not an-
ticieated being unable to go on. He had anticipated that
Vle matter would have been ttled lat night. At resent
he could not say whether he should call Captainp Evans
or not—he did not say whether he would or would not.
The committee adjourned at two o'clock.

FRIDAY.
14'1110 e C°lttnittee resumed sitting to-day at twelve o'clock,
)or Beresford in the chair.
e„,ihe,Proceedings were opened by a resolution of the
runstnittee requiring the report of the Liverpool Conser-
le to be laid on the table of the Committee as evi-
enceY in the present inquiry.
AdM2,_•a4usten then read a letter from the Lords of the
bat:". AY. wherein their lordships expressed
intentionton of the proposed works, and also their of
send
i°g two naval commanders to be examined by the
promoters on the expediency of improving the harbour by
the erection of more extensive docks.
Captain Ernmerson was then called, and examined by
7. Austen.--The effect of the witness's evidence was a
._ioa
reurrence in the necessity of carrying out the proposed
ks, which he thought calculated to be of great service
',
°,kir interests of Liverpool generally.
r- Page, the eminent civil engineer, was next examined
The witness
of the plans proposed to be carried out.
;1e witness stated that he had but just returned from Li-
derPool, where he had inspected the site of the proposed
m and gave it as his opinion that under the able
'tragernent of Mr. Hartley, the company's engineer,
y Promised advantage could not fail being carried out.
Mr. Hudson, for thirty years a pilot in Liverpool, was
'nen examined.—The witness stated that the proposed
ducks would greatly benefit the shipping interests, and
that they were according to the plans in every way calcu-
lated for safety and convenience to vessels of every class.
Mr. Vignoles, late government engineer in Ireland, was
exarnined.—The witness expressed himself highly confi-
dent of the general utility and efficiency of the works, as
well as his high opinion of Mr. Hartley's engineering ex-
perience, which he had no doubt would bring the works
to a successful issue.
Mr. Duncan Gibb, an eminent merchant of Liverpool,
Was next examined as to the general efficiency of the mea-
ture, as well as to the value of the land to be occupied in
the cart ying out of the works. p
This was the case for the preamble.
.elrd Talbot then summed up the evidence, and con-
tum,ude 133, calling upon the committee to declare the pre-
n,.,,,„Pre
...tr. 1,,
ponents •thdyard addressed the committee for the op-
their e_tx ekontending that the promoters had not made out
in the 4:7 the evidence adduced. The learned counsel,
fact of mr.rBl, of his argument, laid great stress upon the
witnesses , nsten refusing, or objecting, to produce the
itieLupaa the voted in the minority of the docks.. commit-
flent._ Mr.discussion of the present application to par-
fisittee exercising dtKaerid would not insist upon
wthietnceossme;
euortlrght forward fore two
power
.have h
se r two reasons . first, because that
9ets ; au occupy much of the time of the hon. mem-
secondly, because the learned counsel's re-
evi!te,;e'.° Produce them had admitted the fact that their
t!.hich be Would bear. bard against the. present scheme,.
`rrn tt4,-;;r. Hildyard) could not designate by a milder
co than
h-a*r..taat it had been unnecessarily concocted, and
tun of ,3,7..1150 further effect than to take an enormous
eluded cork; Y out of the pockets of the public to enrich
c "ea veryl°4 of Liverpool. The learned counsel con-
-0-°l4*.littee t able and
thenenrgetic address by requesting the
rearabl ° dismiss present measure by declaring the
The e not prOv
and art e°44nitte en'
er about e then ordered the room
.to be. cleared,
were :r Navin a quarter of an hour's consideration, Mr.
the codled ja-lt been announced at prayers, the parties
the
'tad informed by the gallant chairman that
Itckionc°4ider,,,at having yet come to a dec, the fur-
-fled to V°4 of the preamble of the bill would be
'ot Monday,
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SPQR TING INTELLIGENCE.

TATTERSALL'S, THURSDAY.

THE CHESTER CUP.
9 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Bramble (taken.)
9 1 C 1. Cradock's Pagan (taken.)
10 1 Mr. Bristow's Pharaoh (taken )
12 1 Mr. Collett's Cattonite (taken.)
13 1 Duke of Richmond's Red Deer (taken)
25 1 Mr. S-epiienson's Freedom (taken, after-
wards offered.)
25 —1 Mr. Stanley's Vakeel (taken-and aft. offd.)
35 1 Mr. Wrather's Nutwith (taken, and af-
wards offered.)
25 1 Mr. Salvin's Alice Hawthorn.
30 1 Mr. Worthington's Hooton.
40 1 Mr. D. Cooke's What (taken, and af. offd.)
40 1 Mr. lgoe's Broken Down.
Every horse included in the above list was backed, but
only the first five with any approach to spirit : the odds
we have quoted against them would have been taken up to
the close.

DERBY.
500 even between two and the field.
12 to 1 apt Col. Peel's lot (taken.)
5 2 Mr. John Day's Ugly Buck (take 11 to 4.)
3 1 Mr. Crockford's Rattan (take 7 to 1.)
20 1 Sir G. Heathcote's Campunero (taken.)
20 1 Mr. Lichtwald's Leander (taken.)
25 1 Col. Peel's Orlando.
30 1 Mr. Scott's Bay Momus.
33 l Mr. F. Ongley's King of the Gipsies
(taken.)
35 1 Mr. J. Osborne's Mount Charles.
40 1 Mr. Thornhill's Apprentice.
45 1 Mr. Bowes's Saddle Bow.
1000 —lO Mr. Forth's Ashtead Pet (taken.)
1000 —lO Mr. Moffam's Dr. Phillimore.
250 —5O The Ugly Buck winning 2.000 Guineas
Stakes and Derby (taken.)
1000— 5 Dr. Phillimore for the same event.

In addition to the prices, it isonly necessary to say that
in the course of a long and most particularly dull after-
noon, not above a dozen bets were made ; we saw only one
of 3 to 1 against The Ugly Buck, and none whatever
against Ratan ; 30 to 1 to £75, and 2,000 to 60 laid against
the King of the Gipsies, 1,875 to 45 against Saddle Bow,
750 to 25 against Bay Momus, 1,000 to 40 against Orlando,
and 1,000 to 25 against Apprentice, the odds against each,
with the exception of the Ugly Buck, being currently
offered to the end.

OAKS.
10 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's The. Ree.
12 1 Col. An,on's The Princess.
20 —1 Lord W-,t minster's Fanny Eden (taken.)
The following horses join- d Scott's lot at Newmarket
on Wednesday :—Lord Allidstone's Cockamsrol, Lord
Chesterfield's ,The Bee, and Col. Anson's The Princess,
and Joe Lovell.