The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1848-08-29 00:00:00

THE LOSS OF THE OCEAN MONARCH.

• A subscription-list was opened on Friday in the Ex-
change-rooms, and it will be seen that the committee for
affording relief sit daily at the Town-hall for the purpose
of giving a proper direction to public benevolence. The
committee consists of the Mayor, Edward Rushton, Esq.,
James Price Esq., Thomas Littledale, Esq., J. Aspinall
Tobin, Esq.. Robert W. Osgood, Esq., Jacques Myers,
Esq., Lieut. Hodder, and Charles Cotesworth, Esq. D.
Neilson, Esq., treasurer. The total amount of subscrip-
tion exceeds we believe £lOOO.

Any donations of clothes will be very acceptable, and
will be gratefully received at the Police-office, in High-
street.

A very lone list of subscriptions is now filled at the
News Room. Amongst the benevolent donors, arc—
Baring Brothers and Co., £5O; Hamden and Co., £5O;
Brown, Shipley and Co., £2O; Fielden Brothers, £2O;
James Brown and Co., £10; Maclean, Ward and Co.,
£lO 10s.

Mr. Gough, of Woodside, gave the use of his omnibuses,
gratuitously, for the purpose of cluveying parties to Hoy-
lake, in order to identify any of the unfortunate parties.
We believe that £2OO has been forwarded by govern-
ment for the relief of the suffering survivors; and it will
be seen that her Majesty has contributed £5O for the sea-
man Jerome.

The Gem yacht belonging to Mr. Melling, secretary of
the Royal Mersey Yacht Club, passed the Ocean Monarch
on Thursday, at six o'clock p.m., as she was returning
from Beaumaris regatta. There was not a single human
being any where in sight, and the hull of the ship was
burned to the water's edge.
Thirteen bodies were washed up at Hoylake on Satur-
day. Among them were two infants, a man about sixty,
and eight females from twenty to sixty years old. Whilst
the outside clothes were being removed from one woman,
£22 6s. were found tied up in her stays.

THE INQUEST YESTERDAY.
Yesterday forenoon the borough Coroner proceeded to
hol.d an inquest on the bodies of five of the sufferers who
were brought to this port on Saturday by the steam tug,
namely, Mary Tobin, Geofrey Lynch, Ellen Teiruey,
Elizabeth Atherton, end a boy, name unknown.
In consequence of it being generally understood that
the captain and mate of the unfortunate vessel would be
present, and that evidence would be produced relative to
the Bangor steamer Cambria and Orion, the court and its
environs were very much crowded. We observed on the
bench with the Coroner, Admiral Grenfell, Capt. Evans,
R.N., Lieut. Lord, R.N., and in the court we noticed
several gentlemen belonging to the town.
Mr. P. Wright, solicitor, appeared to watch the pro-
ceedings on the part of the owners of the Welch steamers
Cambria and Orion.
The following jury was sworn to try the inquest :
Thos. Phillips, Walter Gilfillen, William Bournes, John
Kelliott, Thos. Foulkes, James Blcasdale, Thos. Austin,
Thos. Ellison, Richard Rowlandson, Robert Norris. John
Chartres, John Johnston, James Edmondson, and Robert
Mercer.

The CORONER then proceeded to address the jury..
After describing the occurrence, he observed that it
would be the duty of the jury to inquire minutely into
every circumstance connected with this unhappy occur-
rence, not merely as to the immediate cause of the death
of these persons, but also into whatever might be the
occasion of the entire accident. If there had been any
gross. negligence on the part of the captain, or any cul-
pable mismanagement of his ship, there was no doubt but
he would be liable to a verdict of manslaughter; and if he
had omitted to do anything by which the lives of those
under his charge might have been protected, the same re-
sponsibility would attach to him. pe then proceeded to
justify his going ima a lengthened inquiry by referring to
what had occurred on this subject in the House of Com-
mons on Saturday night last. He next alluded to the
various rumours which had been circulated as to the cause
of this accident. He believed that the account given
about a seaman named Jenkins having been seen below in
the Lazeretto with a lighted candle, in the early part of
the day, was the most probable. He knew of no law
which compelled a man to jeopardise his own life to save
that of anofher ; but the man who would wilfully pass by
a fellow-creature in such distress was the most despicable
wretch th 4 ever lived. The Coroner then concluded by
passing a high and well-merited eulogium on Mr. Thos.
Lit9edale and the crew of the Queen of the Ocean, for
their brave and magnanimous conduct on the occasion.
The following witnesses were then sworn :
Johanna Tobin examined.—ls a single woman ; was
one of the passengers on board the Ocean Monarch. The
deceased, whose name was Mary Tobin, was my sister;
she was a passenger also; she was 38 years of age; we
were going to Boston in America; was sitting on a box
in the steerage when I heard the first alarm of "tire"
;•;ven ; ran immediately on deck, as the sailors and all
uthers did ; in the front steerage I observed a quantity o.
smoke, and in about a quarter of an hour after I got on
deck I saw flames coming through the deck of the first
cabin. The flames increased very rapidly, and in a short
time the whole of the ship was on fire. I was saved by a
boat belonging to a packet which was close to us; the ship
lud bulwarks were nearly all burned before I was saved,
cud the masto were gone. I know by sight the captain of

the Ocean Monarch ; the gentleman now present was the
ceetain. I know both the mates also by sight. I nee-
saw the captain hut once, from the time I heard the cry-
of " fire" until Saturday last, when I saw him in Liver-
pool. There was very great confusion afteethe alarm of
" fire'; was given, and I was so confused Myself that the
captain might have been there without my seeing him.
After the alarm was given, I saw the chief mate in a small.
boat, throwing out life buoys to.the people in the water,
and trying to save them. I did not see the dead body of
my sister till Friday last, when I saw it in the dead horse.
I saw the deceased going down the side of the ship by a.
rope; that was the last time I saw her alive.
To Mr. Wright. —The captain might have been on the-
deck for a long time without my seeing him.
Chas. Hill was next examined.—ls a passenger broker.
Identified one of the deceated as being Jeofrey
who was a second cabin passenger on board of the Ocean
Monarch. The ship was on commission. Thinks there
were about 351 passengers altogether on 'board. The
ship's registered tonnage was 1307 tons. She could carry,
under the act of parliament, about from 415 to 420 pae-
sengers.
James Teirney identified the body of Ellen Teirney.
George Lee examined.—ls a fireman on board the
steam-frigate Alfonso. Sailed from the river Mersey at
half-past ten on Thursday morning last. .We proceeded
on a trial trip of the vessel. The frigate was commanded
by Admiral Grenfell and Captain Lisboa ; but I did not
then know the name of the captain. Don't recollect what-
state the tide was in. We went out by the new channel,
past the bell-buoy. Our attention was first called to the
ship on fire about an hour after we passed the well-buoy.
Went on deck immediately, when I observed the ship
blazing up as high as half way between the top—between
the mainmast and mizenmast ; the flames came out of
the cabin window. The wind was from the westward at
the time ; there was a good sailing breeze fora ship, with
rather a jobble of a swell. Her bearing from us was
seven or eight miles off us ; all the masts were
then standing; there were a great number of vessels
then; about, all making their way to the westward;
some orders were given by our captain, but, as they were
in Portuguese, I did not understand them ; we got four
boats ready, and manned, for the assistance of the ship;
the frigate was steered as fast as possible towards the
burning ship ; on coming near the vessel, I observed that
she had lost her mizen mast, althoue,h I did not see it go,
and immediately after I saw the main mast go over the
side; I could then discoger a great number of persons on
the fore part of the ship; when we were about a quarter
of a mile from the ship we let go our anchor, and put out
our boats immediately after; there was a warp got out
from the stern of the frigate to the ship ; every thing was
done that could be done by the officers and men of the
Affonso, to save the lives of the people in danger; the
warp was hove in so tight that the stern of the frigate was
within two ships' length of the burning vessel; I was in
one of the boats, with the mate of the Ocean Monarch._
which saved 15 or lti of the passengers ; he Was endeavour-.
ing to save all the lives he could • his men were much ex-
hausted, and he requested to Change them for some of
our's ; we did so. and I was one of the parties who got -
into the boat with him ; I picked up the body of a little
; it was in the water at the time: it was not quite
dead at the time, but I heard that it died soon after.
To the CORONER.—Saw two steamers running in; they
were the Bangor boats. That was about fifteen minute?!
before I heard the alarm of " a ship on fire" given : those
boats would be about six miles and a half from us, and
in shore : they could not have been more than five and a
half from the burning ship. I then went below for about
fifteen minutes, and on returning I saw these two steamers
pursuing their inward course as fast as they could ; they
were then on our larboard quarter, and about nine miles
off the burning ship. Never saw them alter their course
in the least to render any assista'-cc.

Could they have rendered assistance ? Was there any-
thing in the state of the tide or weather to prevent them
doing so ? .

Notning whatever; they could have rendered very great
assistance. I observed Mr. Littledale's yacht, the Queen
of the Ocean, about the ship both before we came up and
after. She then had as many on board as she could do"
with; afterwards saw the Prince of Wales steamer come
np, and after going round the ship three or four times,
she came to an anchor in a very fine position for rendering •
assistance. She came too between the Alfonso and tee --
wreck.

Cross-examined by Captain EvANs.—When I came on
deck the yacht was close to the vessel, but what the people
on board were doing I could not see; the Affonso was
nearly an hour from the time we first saw the burning
ship till she reached her ; the Affonso then was going eight
miles an hour against the wind which was then blowing.
To Mr. Wntoni.—Assisted in saving the lives of
number• of people. I think after the time we arrived we
had boats enough; but if others had been there previous
to us more lives might have been saved. The New
World was one of the vessels making to the westward;
could not say whether she rendered any assistance. There
were reveral boats there; but I do not Know to whom
they belonged. I think the New World was about four
miles off the wreck when I observed her. She was tack-
ing about, and hove too, as if to render assistance.
To the Conosm—The Bangor boats might have been.
at the burning ship at least an hour before the Affonso.
To Captain EvA Ns.—These boats were coming from
the westward, and the burning vessel was to the west-
ward, and from this circumstance I say the packets would
be there an hour before us, and I think they 'could not
have passed the vessel without seeing the fire. When I
say might have been there an hour before. us, take it for
granted that the ship must have been on fire when I first.
saw the steamers on our larboard bow.
The CORONER then called on the captain of the Cam-
bria and the mate of the Orion, with a view of allowing
them to cross-examine this witness. The captain of the
Cambria then proceeded to do so:—When first I saw the
ship there were flames ascending to nearly the main top,
and also coming out of the cabin windows,—the steamers
were then on the larboard quarter.
Toe Mate of the Orion declined to cross-examine the
witness.

William Roberts, a seaman on board the Ocean mo-
narch, was next examined. He was a man before the
matt. There were 34 seamen and one boy, besides the•
officers, on board ; a little before 12 o'clock on Thursday,
after we had sailed. I went to the mate and asked him for
my tobacco ; he went down and got the tobacco, and we
had just got below in the forecastle, put my tobacco in
my chest, got on deck again, immediately I heard a cry
that there was fire away aft ; heard the captain sing out
from the quarter deck for buckets, and he gave orders to
put the fire out; the captain still remained on the quarter
deck ; at this time I observed smoke issuing from the venti-
lator on the starboard side aft ; I assisted in passing water;;
the captain then sung cut to get the passengers on deck,
and I went below to do so ; whilst I was so employed, the
Clines burst through from aft, through the cabin, and in-
about fifteen minutes, all between d.!cks was on blaze ;
there was then great confusion on deck, and the noise
was so great that I cculd not hear whether the captain
gave any orders or not. I saw the ship New World at a
distance from us. I did not look out for any steamer or
other vessel to save us, for I expected to get a raft or piece
of wood to save myself by ; at. last I got into one of our
boats, and some person cutting the paintFr we drifted'
away ; we endeavoured to bale ler out with our boots.
We then drifted down to a fishing-smack, and placed
what passengers we had on board of her—got oars from,
her people, and we then pulled back for the
ship again. On our way we picked up a passenger and:
put her on board the Prince of Wales steamer, which was
then steering for the ship; we then returned and took off
as many es we could, and put them on board the Affonso.
He remained at work as long as he could, till be was
exhausted ; then he went on board the AlTonso, and a
fresh crew was put into the boat. During all this time
I did not notice either of the two Welsh steamers.,
Smoking was not allowed between decks, but we some-
times smoked above deck on the sly. 'This being an the
evidence which could be procured that evening, the court-
mijourned to 11 o'clock this day, when the inquiry will be .
resumed.

We understand that an inquest was held yesterday, on
the bodies of a number of the sufferers who have been
found at Hoylake.

A RECEIVER OF STOLEN Goons.—ln consequence of
suspicions, the police on Thursday searched the public-
Louse occupied by a man named Ellison, at the corner of
Skelhorne-street. when they found in every room in the
house stolen goods in larger or smaller quantities. Whole
piles of woollen cloth, wearing apparel, for both males
and females, in abundance; an endless assortment of silk
handkerchiefs, and miscellaneous property were seized..
Many articles were rolled up in bundles., to which tickets
were attached- after the manner of pawnbrokers. The
goods were taken to the Police-office, together with the
landlord of the public-house and a girl named Brothers.
On Friday the two prisoners were brought before Mr.
Rushton, when Bates and Tuck produced the property
found in the house. So great was the quantity, that it
covered the large table in the court in High-street, where
cases were heard during the occupation of the Sessions-
house. A portion of the articles consisted of gold rings,
telescopes, &c. Mr. Rushton directed that the prisoners
should be remanded to gaol for one week. Mr. Snowball,
solicitor for Ellison, enquired if bail would be accepted for
his client. The magistrate drily remarked that he would
rather admit to bail the poor wretches who stole the goods.
During the interval the police will be engaged in endea-
vouring to trace out the owners; and we are requested to
urge parties, who may have had valuables stolen, to go to
the police-office, in Iligh-street, where all the property,
is deposited.
ROBBERFAS AT THE ALBERT DOCK WAREHOUSE.—A
long investigation was entered on before Mr. Rushton, ou
Thursday, respecting an alleged robbery of flour, supposed
to have been committed by the porters employed at the-
Albert Dock warehouses. The persons in custody were
James Franklin, James A. Smith, W. Ridgway. Joseph.
Taylor. Daniel Hodgson, and Ceorge Dobson. In Sep-
tember last, Messrs. Sandal's andi
Claxton stowedn the.
Albert Dock warehouses a quantity of flour, about 8982-
barrels, being the cargo of the ship Reliance. They were
stored in No. 9 warehouse. The flour remained there
until it was sold, when it was found that there was a de-
ficiency of 53cwt. 151bs. In consequence of this, officer
Kehoe went to the Albert Dock warehouses for the pur-
pose of investigating the matter, when the first person he
spoke to was the prisoner Hodgson, and in consequence of
his information the other prisoners were apprehended.—.
Mr. Cowan, the superintendent of the Albert Dock ware-
houses, said he had investigated the matter with officer
Kehoe, but could not account for the deficiency, without
it was the length of time which had elapsed from their
being taken in to going out, as barrels were apt to lose
their weight when rolled about. In his opinion not one.
barrel had been out of the warehouse ; but that, probably,.
• in the hurry of business, the floor had been negligently
weighed. Mr. Rushton adjourned the case, but the evi-..
deuce against them not being any stronger, he dischargoik
them, with a caution, at the same time expressing a hope
that the matter would receive the attention of the dock_
committee,

TUESDAY MORNING, AUG. 29, 1848.

THERE is, unhappily, little doubt remaining that
we have before us the prospect of another winter
of scarcity in Ireland. Regardless of their past
sufferings from the failure of the potato crop, the
peasantry and farmers of Ireland have this year
once. _more rested their chief, and, to a great ex-
tent, their sole dependence upon this precarious
root; and the destruction of a great portion of it,
though not, perhaps. so much as is represented by
interested or thoughtless alarmists, is now almost
a matter of certainty. The question, therefore,
what is to he done in such an emergency, must at
once urgently press upon the attention and seriously
increase the perplexities of her Majesty's govern-
ment. Ireland, in fact, seems destined to remain
one of the great social difficulties which British
statesmanship has to encounter; and she seems
bent herself upon offering every possible impedi-
ment to its solution.

A more anomalous spectacle cannot possibly.
-present itself than the position of this most un-
happy people. But a few days ago they. were in
arms to wrest a speculative boon from this empire,
which had so lately extended towards them a be-
nificenee unparalleled in the world's history. With
our own money they bought the weapons which
were •to be levelled against our throats. The
Saxon's charity was converted into the means of
shedding the Saxon's blood. And now we have
the same people before us in the attitude of sup-
pliants, whil3t their curses hurled against us are
still ringing in our ears. We shall be called upon
to feed starving thousands, the main cause of
whose starvation has been that they have pre-
ferred the pike and the musket to the spade;
• 'and turbulenc:! and bloodshed to honest industry.
And strange though it may appear, we shall not
refuse to answer to the call.. We may not be so
profuse as in previous times. We may be more
discriminating in the amount and mode of dis-
tribution of our alms. But we shall pay never-
theless. John Bull is a long suffering animal, and
seems never tired of forgetting the offences of his
Irish brother.
But there must be one condition observed on
the present occasion. We must have it clearly
understood that we are preserving the lives of a
people, who are at length disposed to respect the
laws ; that instead of providing the means of ex-
istence for that people, we are not furnishing arms
for rebels. We have a fair claim to insist upon
this condition, and upon no other terms will the
British nation he content to draw again upon their
resources for Irish aid. What is the state of feel-
inn amongst the population of a great portion of
Ireland—that poetion most certain to be first in a
position to demand our bounty—at the present
moment ? It is undeniably hostile—not only to
the very name of England, but to every thing re-
sembling social order. Juries in Ireland cannot
be found to convict, in cases of the most unde-
niable, and even of admitted crime; and life and
-Property are scarcely so secure in some districts as
amongst the most barbarous tribes of the aborigines
in our colonies. Open rebellion has been scotched
only to give place to assassination and midnight
outrage; and respect for the law—nay, even ordi-
nary abhorrence for the crime of murder itself—is
openly scouted.
Upon this point the following evidence of an
able correspondent of the London Times, who
writes from Thurles, is most staiting

"A general impression prevailed some time ago that
the special commissions had effectually stopped that sys-
tem of assassination to which so many of the landlords in
'this part of Ireland fell victims. it was believed that
Irish Thuggee had been suppressed, and that the nr,j,sty
of the law had been entirely vindicated. From the infor-
mation I have I feel satisfied that these conclusions will
soon be found erroneous, and that the recent lull has been
merely an interregnum in the reign uf terror and blood.
J find that threatening letters are still as common as ever,
and that a deliberate system of intimidation is carried on
to an extent and with a degree of success which are per-
fectly astounding. There is scarcely a man in this coun-
try whose life is really valuable who does not hold it from
_hour to hour upon a tenure the u.,certainties of which
would puzzle the most skilful actuary. No gentleman
bent on the improvement of his estate or people, no in-
dustrious farmer seeking to overcome prejudice and igno-
rance in the cultivation of the soil, no mapistrate firm in
the discharge of his public duties, is safe from the violent
caprice of a revengeful and yet cowardly peasantry.
Recent events have revived all- the. horrid- desire to uipa
out by murder fancied wrongs, and, unless strong repres-
sive measures are adopted. you may soon- expect to hear
of terrible deeds done in this country."
_

The awful social condition of such a people is
still more forcibly depicted in the following para-
graph from the same writer :

".I have been horrified to find that there are scores of
imen in this district alone whose active participation in
murders is quite well known, though no means exist of
bringing them to justice. Witnesses, jurymen, magis-
tratrates, are all entranced by this frightful system of
intimidation which reigns here, and, although the public
have a right to complain if any fears for their personal
safety induce men to forego or neglect the discharge of
their duties, it should still be remembered that the state
has reciprocal obligations, and that while the subject is
called on to act a conscientious part in support of the
law, he is entitled to claim protection in return."
There is but one conclusion which we can draw
from the evidence of such a state of things, com-
bined with our recent experience of the impossi-
bility of attaining the ends of justice even in the
Irish metropolis itself. A people of whose social
condition the above is an accurate description is not
fitted for the enjoyment of those forms of law, with
which the Constitution has hedged round the rights
and the life and property of the subject. Trial by
ury for political and criminal offences must be
suspended in Ireland, or materially modified ; and
the executive arm must be strengthened. We must
no longer present to the world continual scanda-
lous mockeries of an institution which, valuable as
it is in a civilized country, is completely out of
place in one whose population obviously regards
perjury as venial, when used to screen crime, and
in which known murderers walk about unmolested
in the open day.
If we wanted further evidence of the necessity
of this step, we submit that it is to be found in the
following letter, recently addressed to a provincial
paper, by one of the pattern instructors of this
lawless people
My dear Sir,—As there appeared in the last fr
copies of your journal statements of certain occurre
in this locality with which my name was connect

statements, though generally true; greatly exaggerate .
you will please allow me to put you and the readers of
your journal in the possession of the true . state of those
occurrences.
" On the 2nd instant. there did appear in this parish
persons seemingly connected with the late uktOrtunate
insurrection : but they were persons of the mildest, most
gentlemanly, and unobtrusive demeanour, and seemed to
take refuge in those mountains to evade the vengeance of
the law, and not for any other purpose; and repeatedly
and fervently did I pray with many others that God may
deliver those martyrs of a designing and despotic Go-
vernment from the hands of their enemies, and the
enemies of their country.
" Separated from these persons there appeared in
another part of the parish a person, I believe, not at all
an outlaw, disposed to say and do very foolish things ;
but the people took my advice, and left him immediately,
though many of them told me they might as well die in
war as in starvation in the coniing winter. However,
with very little difficulty, I prevented those half-starved
people from any collision with a pampered military in
pursuit of those insurgents, and thus saved my poor people
from bloodshed and further notoriety. May God protect
them from the spies and detectives with whom this locality
is now infected !
"I remain, my dear Sir, very faithfully yours,
". J. MOLON, Parish Priest.

" Kilcomwon, August 11."
"Unfortunate insurrection!" mild, most gentle-
manly and unobtrusive" people, taking refuge in
the mountains only "to evade the vengeance of the
law !" In a land where the crimes of rebels are
thus gingerly spoken of, and their punishment
regarded, as a thing, to evade whichit is amiable
-•arld pious to assist the criminal, what prospect can
there be of truth in the decision of a jury ? To
-expect it is to be ridiculous.

ST. SWITHIN A/sFI-) THE WATER COMMITTEE.

We will not go the length of asserting that this worthy
Saint has been specially retained during the past two
months, for the purpose of assisting Mr. Hawkesley and.
Captain Francis in showing the large capabilities of
Rivington as a water shed ; but his efforts in favour of
the scheme have been certainly as well worthy of remu-
neration as those of any half dozen of the scientific per-
sonages whose evidence is before the public. Even
smuts, however, are fallible beings ; and, in his zeal,
Swithin has proved boo much, by upsetting one of the pet
theories of his employers. Welave been told by them,
over and over again, that the supply of water under Li-
verpool is obtained altogether from the rainfall in the im-
mediate district, percolating through the red sandstone
into the strata from whence it is pumped up for use ; and
that, as the area of the district becomes built over, such
supply will be decreased in quantity. Admit this theory,
and the deduction is an obvious one,—that the greater
the rainfall, the more abundant should be the yield of our
wells. During all this periodi-then, that the saint has
been wringing his wet blanket over our heads, the Har-
iagtOn, and Bootle lodges should have been full eaough

to give us a daily supply—as mud, in fact; as their en-
gines could pump ; and yet, from every pare of the town,
we are overwhelmed with complaints of want of water.
Either, therefore, the idea of Liverpool being built upon
a kind of natural filter must be scouted as sheer humbug,
or there is water in our wells at this moment, and the
committee won't let us have it. One or other of the
alternatives is inevitable ; and as the saint's exertions are
productive of no good, but rather of touch unpbasantness
here, we should be obliged to him to confine his further
favours to Rivington, whet .!they are more highly valued.
In sober earnestness, we do submit. that the public have
some right to complain of the present managemrtit of
their water supply by the officers of the health committee.
We have been very obstinate, no doubt, in not seeing at
once all the advantages of the Pike prej:wt, but now that
it is carried against us, don't continue to punish us for
our past stupidity ! Let us at least have as much as our
wells will yield, whether it percolates from the surface or
is supplied by subterranean rivers. If this is not done,
the inhabitants of Liverpool must themselvt s make a con-
tract with Saint Swithin, and collect his favours for their
cr,vn u>e. There is scarcely a street or a court in the town,
which a few yards of spouting, a good cask or stone cistern,
arid a tap would not render the occupants independent
both of the wells and the health committee for the greater
part of the water they use. If rainwater it is upon which
we are hencefirth to be dependent, why, in the name of
common sense, go twenty or thirty miles to catch and
impound it, when we can have the same element in abun-
dance train our own house-tops? Asa matter of domestic
economy, as well as on sanatory grounds, our population
ought at once to be encouraged to supply their houses
with rainwater cisterns, the trifling cost of which an ave-
rage family would save in a twelvemonth i❑ their decrcased
consumption of the article of soap alone.

Tut POPE, HER. MAJESTY'S LORD LIEUTENANT

IN IRELAND.

The instrumentality, by which the Whig government
proposes in future to govern Ireland, has at length oozed
out, and stands plainly confessed in the debate on the
Diplomatic. Relations with Rome Bill, on Thursday night.
Of course, like all other portions of the poiiry of the
party, it is contempti'le, degrading to the sovereign, and
insulting to the Irish people themselves. His Holiness
the Pope of Rome is to become a cat's paw of the British
ministry and his spiritual powers are to be wielded, at
the dictation of our envoy at his court, to repress Illv tur-
bulence of the M'Hales and other reverend Irish fire-
brands. To meet at once the objections urged by the
constitutional party in the House againA any recognition
of the spiritual authority of the Pope, and the fears enter-
tained by the Roman Catholics of Ireland that the bill-is
levelled at the spiritual authority of the Irish bishops and
priesthood, it was proposed by M.. Chas. Pearson, that
the diplomatic intercourse proposed to be held with the
Court of Rome, should be " touching and concerning in-
t•rnational, civil, commercial, and political relations."
To this restriction, however, the Solicitor-General offered
a decided objection.

"Questions" he said "of a mixed character might arise
though in the result they were of a temporal nature, and in
such no interference could take plaCe. 5up7.,0,,e the Pope intro-
(limed any regulation s; to the Roman Catliolic3 of Canada,
this qualification would prevent any interf,rence. At present
the Pope might divide this country into bishoprics and arch-
b;shoprics, and if the amendment were agreed to he might do so
still ; but if we had rree diplomatic relations with him, the liri-
tish Government might interfere to preven, such a division."

And Lord Palmerston directly advocates the propriety
of our treating with the Pope, for the regulating of the
internal affairs of this kingdom, so far as tn.. y are con-
nected with religious matters. The noble lord, in reply to
some remarks of Sir Robert Inglis,

" Begged to ask a question of his hon. friend, who had often
applied to him to make representations to the Government of
Sardinia in favour of the Protestants of the Vaudois, and who
had also urged him to nse his influence with the Government of
Switzerland on the subject of certain relations which interfered
with some religious persons in the cantons of Switzerland.
Hear.) Now would his hon. friend call that an interference
either in `political, commercial, civil, or international' affairs?
Such questions would give rise to very disagreeable refinements,
and it was not desirable to preclude the Gorernmeot of this
((noir?, from making similar representations, if it were thought
Gesirable, to the Court of Itome."

There is no reservation here. The authority of the
Pope within these realms is distinctly recognised, in direct
subversion of the principles of the British constitution,
and of an express clause in her Majosty's coronation oath ;
and we are to stoop to negocinte with him—" to urge him
to use his influence (.9- to protect the civil liberties of
English and Irish Protestants from being "interfered
with" by the aggressions of Romanism Within this realm.
A truly degrading and Whiggish spectacle it will be to see
the Protestant government and people of this great empire
thus prostrating themselves at the footstool of the anti-
christ, suing, in forma pauperis, for liberty to worship
God according to their own consciences !