The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1835-03-31 00:00:00

HOUSE OF LORDS, THURSDAY.

The Marquis of BUTE presented petitions for the extension of
church accommodation in Scoland, and in favour of the church
establishment in that country, from the Gaelic church, Edin-
burgh, from the parish of St. Mary, in the neighbourhood of
Glasgow, and from places in the counties of Ayr and Roxburgh.
The Earl of 11,,SEBERY presented a petition in favour of the
established church of Scotland from the borough of Queensferrv.
Lord Bliour; HA at said that in presenting the petition he held
in his hand, he -should take the same course that was adopted
on w former night by a noble friend of his, and merely state its
contents, because he did not wish to commit himself to any of
the allegations of the petitioner. According to the new regime
of that house, it appeared that au individual, if he spoke on a
petition, was held in some degree responsible for its allegations;
but he, in miler to get rid of that supposed responsibility, would
merely read the petition. The noble and learned lord then read
the petition. It was front, a pers, n named Charles Hayman,
who stated that he had been for six years an inmate of the work-
house of Stapleton, near Bristol; and he complained that be
had been prevented from receiving. spiritual assistance from the
Rev. White, alio resided near Bristol, and who was (as we
understood) a regular dissenting minister. The petitioner stated
that he felt notch aggrieved by not being able to avail himself
of the visits of the ltcv. Mr. White.

The Lou oditAzdetcrit.tut presented a petition from Radford
Roe, Esq., barrister-at-iaw, complaining of the high and unjust
legal chaiges that had been imposed upon him.
A person from the office of the pour law commissioners pre-
sented copies of the correspondence of the commissioners on the
subject of the Stoke Po es union.
On the motion of Lord ELLEN BO ROVG 14, the finance accounts
of the united kingdom for the last year were ordered to be
printed.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY::
CANTERBURY ELECTION.
Mr. Our; DA LK, as chairman of the Canterbury election com-
mittee, 'who have decided that S. R. Lushington, Esq., ought
to have been returned as member for the city of Canterbury,
moved the house that the late member, F. Villiers, Esq., might
be at liberty, by petition, to question the validity of the return
for the city of Canterbury within the next fourteen days.
LEICESTER BOROUGH ELECTION.
Mr. Giseolore presented a petition from Mr. Joseph Parkes,
praying to be allowed to amend a clerical error committed by
I.iet with respect to the name of one of the sureties furnished by
the' petitioners against the return for the borough of Leicester.-
Mr. Parkes was called to the bar of the housr, and examined
respecting the error, after which the motion was carried on a
division by a majority of nine.
CORK COUNTY RLEcTION PETITION.
Dr. LEsaioe then moved for leave to rectify a mistake in the
Christian name of one of the 'sureties proposed."in the case of this
-"
petition—to substitute "Wiiliuoi Manna" instead of Hem y
Maunix," and that the time fur perfecting the surety-be en-
larged for ten days.
Mr. John Jackson, agent for the petitioner, was called in and
examined, for the purpose of proving that the error was merely
Clerical and altogether unintentional. On this motion the house
dividetL It was curried by a majority of 27.
LONDON lINIVERsrry.
Mr. Toot; it, in bringing forward his motion for "an address
to his Majesty, beseeching him to grant his royal charter of in-
corporation to the University of London, as approved in. the
year 1831, by the then law officers of the crown, and containing
no other restriction than against conferring degrees in divinity
and in medicine," observed, in the course of his speech, that
the University did not prefer to have any chair oftheology, be-
cause it was considered the pupils might he instructed in their
religious tenets and duties at home; nor did it &elite to have
the power of conferring degrees in divinity or in medicine.
( Hear.) All it wanted was the right to grant degrees in arts
and in law, with probably the same initials as in the Univer-
sities at present. recognised. These degrees they looked for in
the expectation that they would be received by the public with
that respect to which they were entitled from the value of the
instrieetion therein. The London University was not a joint
'stock aiontruercial company in the ordinary sense of the word,
because four per cent. was the highest interest the share holders
Could-receive for their money. The claims of the University to
a charter were daily increasing. There were now 400 pupils,
and the medical board was unsurpassed by that of any other in-
stitution.
Mr. GournceN objected to the motion on the ground that the
proceedings before the privy council, respecting the Kraut of a
charter to the University were not before the house. He con-
cluded by moving as an amendment an address to the. Crown
for a copy of the memorials, in this case to the privy council,
and a statement of its proceedings.
Sir ROSKIIT INGLIS did nut mean to say anything disrespect-
ful of the London University; but thought the motion an in-
fringement upon the prerogatives of the Crown. The question
had been well argued, and could not have been brought before
the privy council under more favourable circumstances for the
institution than last year. With respect to the value of the de-
grees they were claiming the right of bestowing, honours con-
ferred by tutors were never considered to be of any particular
value. The value of honours at the Universities consisted in
their being given, not by college tutors in their respective col-
leges, but by a class of examiners selected from the University
at large. In granting a charter to the London University, it
would be only, as it were, conferring one on a particular col-
lege, and the degree would be of no more value than a college
certificate. It was not denied that the London University was
to a certain extent a money speculation. • Shares were sub-
- scribed for, and might be sold or transferred like shares in a gas
' company, or any ether speculation of the kind. Was this, then,
he would ask, the kind of institution for which a charter ought
to be granted, with such powers as were sought for? The hon.
gentleman tMr. Tooke) hail sail that he did not claim the
power for the London University of conferring degrees in-divi-
mie. but what was the eNaent of that power us now exercised by
the* Universities? -He found that in the year 1831 the Univer-
sity of Oxford conferred 268 degrees of bachelor of arts, 168 de-
grees of master of arts, and only 12 degrees in divinity.
Dr. LUSHINGToN supported the motion on the broad ground
that it was the duty of a government to give encouragement to
the cultivation of 'those talents which God had given to man,
and which were not intended to be left untnliiyated.
Lott! F. EGERTON agreed in much of what had been said by the
hon. and learned nicruber who last addressed the house, but as
be intended to vote for the amendment of the right hon. gentle-
un , -could not consent to give a silent vote, lest he should
be considered be
as intending to quash the original motion. With
the highest respect for the hon. baronet (the member for the
University of Oxford), he must say, that if his vote on this occa-
sion were to he guided by his (Sir R. Inglis's) speech; and that
of the hon. rind learued member for the Tower Hamlets ( Dr.
Lushington), without reference to other considerations, he must
vote for the latter. For his own part, he did not think' that the
interests of sound education would suffer by the incorporation of
the University of London: Ile could not • object to the este!).