The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-04-23 00:00:00

TO TuR EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ST✓INDARD.

6ut—lt is now almost unnecessary to notice the factory ques-
nl' as the commissioners, already appointed, will soon dis-
)ver how far the evidence brought forward, and the statements
ode by Mr. Sadler, are calculated to elicit the whole truth or
,Taislead the public; but as you have inserted in the Standard
tcda. 3' one of his calculations, showing "
the duration of
,
tevla various places," and drawn attention to it by heading it
ott
acte'rY System," in conspicuous characters, allow me to ask
4tl.if you know to what class of people " the 10,000 persons
ited''' in each of the places enumerated chiefly belonged to ?
Sadler withholds this information, no doubt wisely, although
Itt eit 801 1
e Y depends the value of the calculation to those who
[l:e t, but few do on subjects that do not concern themselves.
!eare, of course, many more deaths amongst the lower
e°llasses, Particularly of persons under 20 years of age, than
7,4gst such as can comfortably provide for and properly at-
:. to the health of themselves and families.
1,1:. Sadler compares the deaths in Wigan, Bolton, Stock-
. and
another manufacturing towns, where few of the wealthier
People4B a great many distressed weavers and other poor
L4tnot employed in factories reside, with those in the coun-
Rutland and Essex, in the metropolis, probably the
tile jest Part of it, in Chester, and Norwich, without giving
I,l:oPortion of the different classes the people buried belonged
1440 in the latter places the number of people in good
latm.
td, -.tees is comparatively very great. If we
compare the
tliie,eitilairh occur in the quarter of this town where the weal -
ti 4 Nii asses chiefly live with those amongst the inhabitants of
1,4101114 es in the neighbourhood of the docks, we shall make
'hike fro g a contrast as Mr. Sadler has done ; but could we
t/li, tol,lll such a calculation of the effect of manual labour in
lia4 4 im the health of the poorer classes ?
.V limi_Mr• Sadler wished to have ascertained truly the effect
ne, r'uYinent in factories on the duration of life, he ought to
1 eto fi
d se-
'eted:li-tlitleedahsimself exclusively to the lower classes, an
°'lll' t ' compare with the deaths in manufacturing towns,
i, h, ,
"11, I,i se WO had lived in the narrow and dirty streets of Lon-
. fort4Lli:°°l, Bristol. Hull, and other cities where. there is
13, abundance of misery and distress without facto
480th a comparison, however, would have suited his pur_
the evidence of people who had no tales of
It this overworking in factories to relate.
ki425 Calculation does not expose Mr. Sadler's "system" of
'PeCit'lntit a Stroll.. case, I know not what will, and, after suchh
veiteollb':et may take it for granted that he stated what
e
id „-rue:without endeavouring to learn the whole
ere'itr°,,v-eu partial statements and exaggerated assertions
1 tlf,;°llfornaity with his wishes and forwarded his object.
1 .448%1° system is perfect; but in attempting to remove the
' eke, if
.111aY make the proposed remedies worse than the
' tik.etrculation be given only to what excites the feelings
.pridtsclirects the jdgment.
aY) ilkil 19th.0

INVESTIGATOR.

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It E EVITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.
-,Thetioibi,,,k, Inelnbers of those congregations who have signed
be b..."teh have been presented to the British Parliament,
to Eller observance of the Lord's day, have only to go
Itled re'nont on a Sunday, and they will return doubly
kli, atm-al, they have done their duty to their God, their
tetev, t° themselves ; and that they have extended an act
Nit"' tile brute creation. Ido think a more disgraceful,
It Par :id cruel sight cannot well be witnessed in any
tti"` the British dominions ; a sight which reflects as
Palleterl.4llaost on the authorities of Liscard and the parish
I::4,riasstiaitud, oes on those who participate in it. The
tenet
.
tit
eot, et°rB and occupier of the Egremont ferry surely
1 ot th`eive that such a sight is at all necessary to the pro.,
the 4t concern. The subscribers to the Liscard church,
it
arlitiettle
f n of that neighbourhood, do not surely encou-
tieg,4ll.el!sirable to that calm repose so necessary to the
and to that holy peace which should. sur-t
iettlittiwellings on the Lord's day. Then, if it do no
tt sue e:4lletion and encouragement of these, how happens.
lieuld" a. scene, which beggars description,. should exist ?
Wthi, wish for a moment to curtail the rational enjoy-
klije,_artisan or labourer, or any other class of his Majes-
lay, ;:., 00 the Lord's day ? After the Divine service of
4' ,at Call add more to the happiness of a man than a
ti.l"alk in the country with his family, in the spring or
iS:lseni in which the heart cannot but be elated, and
e offklllaneed, by the contemplation of the ever varying
to b:: beauty of the creation ? And where is the human
Icles ,4:441(1, who, in the enjoyment of such a contempla-
4:t humbly offer up in spirit an aspiration to nature's 1
NC what degrades the mind more than that coarse and
e
dil'"°llllelit epennt upon the pain inflicted on th
Cal; whicdh are given for the use and not the abuse of
ett wia
'4lo:' Sir, to see cruelty exercised in perfection go over
estiCt's on a Sunday. If you wish to see a collection of
ell "tellp,ht over principally, I believe, in town's boats,
:iree,eti°4 of human brutes, from the age of 8 to that of
1
tly •t °, Egremont on a Sunday. If you wish to
see de-
:e of-I,:ts most disgusting form, go and witness girls, from
lihtilrunningto 15 and 18, in a state of intoxication, cursing
lan 7,1 running up and down after the riders of the poor
tilti,(ll;°tllties, and lying exhausted, in the neighbourhood
l'h-en
h;`," a Sunday. If, indeed, Sir, you wish to witness
it I am sure you do not, more disgraceful than any
t,t'rere ever witnessed on the Lord's day, go over to
k °0
a Sunday.—Yours, &c.,
10

J. M.

TRUSTEES OP THE LIV ERPOOL 12VPIR31.4RE

oquer of tha Provisional Committee for promoting
1 1414 of a Northern Hospital, and convinced that
411,1
of more favourably situated accommodation for the
hle been long absolutely requisite, I have contri-
N..4141e efforts in furtherance of that object. This
odl Y brought me into contact with several of your
eo4ln sorry to find the opinion obtains, that the pro-
Vnlittee has not made out a justification, and that
t4°l. its undertaking must materially affect the pros-
ed h' Present Infirmary, to which, it is presumed, the
ki,t4sidtral will be an active rival.
I~i'o4icen in supposing that what passed at the meeting
:14 ~3blouse would prevent all objection to the fowl-
additional Hospital, but a determined opposition
InDlated, and the-writer of a letter iu the Liverpool
ojsiNerday, signed "A Friend to the Old Infirmary,"
'Pea,..Yand unfairly accused the medical gentlemen who
d themselves, of intended opposition to your
rt: endeavouring to make it appear a party question,
pblrdpe
r reports of what occurs at public meetings,
rvtotion to condense, are necessarily defective, I
pt tithe task of supplying that deficiency, in the hope
liehrenrning all objection to our views, and the assur.
t`le who have promised their support, will not
ing forward, when an exposition of the reasons
illinenced the provisional committee is laid before

',/p;:Les of a Northern Hospital are amongst the
)7.1e!! of the existing one—they disclaim all nu-
' woslt'on to it, and whatever rivalry may exist, will
!kt friends amicably contending for pre-emineuce
Vti°Od cause—of fellow labourers in the field of
d usefulness.