The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-02-26 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

to. give personal offence to any. (Hear, hear,) Those with
whom he had quarrelled most in that house he had always met
on the best terms on the other side of that door. Like lawyers,
they had battled their points warmly, and, sometimes perhaps,
angrily; but when the argument was over, their warmth sub-
sided, and they met on amicable terms. (Hear; hear.) The
hen. member concluded—l had, no intention, by my observa-
tions this evening, to offend any man, but in the heat of the
moment I retorted with warmth, which, if not justifiable, may
perhaps be considered excusable. (Hear, hear.)
[At the conclusion of this speech there was a loud cry for
Captain Berkeley, but as he did not come forward, it was taken
for granted that he had left the house.]
The SPEAKER said that the house was grcatlyjndebted to the
noble lard'for drawing their attention to the subjeet, as it. was
mostessential to the dignity of the house that personal offence
should not bo given. He regretted'that the honourable member
for Gloucester was not in his place for he.recollected the ob-
servations alluded to ; the hon. mertiber for Middlesex said that
he meant no personal. offence, but that he would treat insinua-
tioni witli the contempt that his insinuations were treated with
by the hon. members on the other side. The house was greatly
obliged to the 'noble lord, and he was sure the house must be
satisfied with the explanation. If the house were satisfied, the
most gallant and honourable man that ever lived must feel him-
self satisfied. (Cheers.) If he did not feel confident that the
explanation was sufficient, the house, he would say, would not
da its duty if it did not send for the honourablemember for Glou-
cester at once to see whether he were satisfied. He did not pro-
pose that; for what gave satisfaction to the Commons, must give
to the. most sensitive feelings of any individual entire and perfect
relief. (Cheers.)
Lord G. LENNox, if he might express the feelings of his hon.
and gallant relative, would venture to say that he was satisfied.
If the opinion of the house, composed of gentlemen of all ranks
and of the different services, felt that the honour of his gallant
relative were satisfied, his hou. relative would be willing to
bow to the decision of the house. He regretted the languaga
used by the hon. member for Middlesex. The hon. member
had said first the gallant admiral, and then that he did not
mean the gallant admiral but the gallant captain • and the hon.
Member had made an apology to the house and- not to the
individual. The hon. member had not intended, however, to
insult or make any personal attack on the gallant captain, and
he would say, in the gallant officer's name, that he was per-
fectly satisfied.

Here the matter dropped, and the house adjourned.

CORRESPONDENCE.

THE MOVEMENT.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ST.4.VDARD.

SIR,—The work of spoliation progresses ; three millions of
church property in Ireland is to be sacked for the purposes of
the state, and an extinguisher put on ten out of twenty-two of
her bishops. This is very well for a beginning ; but " what
need of ten, or five,—what need one ?" Truly the Reform Bill
is but the means to an end, and things will be brought to an
end more speedily, I fear, than the most revolutionary ever
dreamed of. Why " King Dan" is all amazement : "he can-
not refrain one moment from expressing the great satisfaction
and delight he felt at hearing the plan of the noble lord (Al-
thorp). In his opinion ministers_ had proposed an extremely
wise plan, which contained in it the principle of future amelio-
ration." No idea of stopping here—on, on—more reform—
more work—more cutting down—more robbery—more sacri-
lege. What says your Catholic contemporary on this blessed
affair? Only "hear him." " This (writes the sage in the
Journal) is a bold attempt, and is even more valuable for the
principle it recognises than for the reform it effects. One of
the Saxon converts, to disabuse his countrymen of their super-
stitious reverence for their heathen temples, hurled his spear at
it, and the act of desecration haYing been committed with im-
punity, the conversion of the edifice to a better purpose quickly
followed." There needs no cEdipus to read the riddle of this
sphinx : would we could be as easily rid of the monster ! The
Protestant church, disabused of the reverence of its worshippers
by this bold stroke of convert Althorp, is to be turned into a
Catholic chapel; and not unlikely, as you hinted in a late num-
ber of the Standard, his apostate brother, with a cardinal's hat
in anticipation, may be preferred to the honour of the Catholic
primacy of Ireland, in the first year of the reign of " King
Dan," in gratitude for this double secession of these Siamese
brothers from the purified faith of their fathers. But, if you
please, we will see what more the Journal has to advance on
this subject. He " speaks right out,"—" our cheeks and hol-
low eyes do witness it:"—

" Though the first step is a bold one, it is obvious enough
that a farther advance will at a suitable period be made, for the
principle will furnish a precedent, should a further reform be
deemed necessary. The present measure takes the cess only
from the church; it distributes with more equal hand the funds
of the establishment. But if the legislature can blot ten dio-
ceses from the ecclesiastical map, the same authority may make
a further reduction in the hierarchy, and release the public
from the necessity of paying annually, to a single successor of
the apostles, more than is received by the families of 'four hun-
dred of the hard-working operatives of Manchester:"
There can be no "misunderstanding" the above, al.Cobbett
said, when he proposed sweeping away the whole of the Irish
hierarchy. To this, indeed, do these movements tend, and
with nothing less than the possession of all will these agitators
be satisfied. Will this be allowed ?
" Quo, quo scelesti ruitis 7
Furorne ccecus, an rapit Tis ucrior t
An culpa 7"

Next comes "Corporation Reform," It is highly Aesirable,
says this same Solon of the exchequer, " that an inquiry should
be made whether there should not be an alteration made in their
constitution, in order that they may be made more popular and
more beneficial to the community to which they belonged."
There is something ambiguous here . they are either the people's
—the community's property, or they are not, 'and their right
had better be decided before their complaint of mismanagement
be entertained; but this is not a question with your cheap phi-
lanthropists ; so to make it " agreeable" and " effective" to the
complainants, the English and Irish corporations are to t4taken
together, under the plea of introducing a certain number of
English members into the committee on Irish abuses, " to act
by way of restraint on that eager feeling which prevails in the
Emerald Isle on political points so likely to.prejudice their judg-
ment in the settlement." What sagacity and forethought ! But
who does not see that the arrangement is to admit the repealers
into the committee for remodelling our constitution on this side
of the channel ? so by their " sweet voices;" and the furtherance
of the pledged " purifiers and disenthrallers" of our own body,
our corporations are truly in a fair way of becoming vastly
popular and beneficial to the communities to. which they belong.
On local topics a word or so. The bells rang merrily on Sa-
turday night, on the occasion of the verdict in favour of our cor-
poration, to the joyful hearing of all loyal subjects and good
citizens of the old town. So may all paltry " penny wise pound
foolish" plots on a valuable estate be confounded, and the hold-
ers secured in the
_possession of "chartered rights." "Be all
plotting contrivers left in the church." I sincerely trust that
they have been " well peppered," and have paid a valuable
consideration for their gratuitous interference. I suppose the
absent " Sub" at the 'meeting to talk over the Exchange News-
room monopoly, has not yet returned to receive the commisera-
tion of his clique on this double defeat. I dont expect them
to be much disheartened—like blundering Jue of Middlesex,
whom nothing abashes—they have a comfortable knack of con-
soling themselves -under such disappointments in the forlorn
hope, that eome one of•the many irons they keep in the fire will
turn up trumps. Beaten at the election—discomfited at the
News-room—overwhelmed with the decision " v. Bolton and
Others"—there is still the Dock Committee Question to cling
to—Egerton still goes on manufacturing. cork collars in case of
the worst, and when the usual period arrives for the launchin
of Coglan's floating ark, we shall be amused, as of Tore, with
the aquatic gambols of the mermen, still alive and kicking, al-
though the happy period be not then arrived when all " the
dioceses are blotted from the ecclesiastical map,.and the public
still under the necessity of nMking an annual payment to a sin-
gle successor of the apostles !I"—Yours,
Livery-4W,, 1314 Feb., 1533. FIDELIS.