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ILnigenmeetiveder ryowwnicosnventional qualification-r—not to say any thing
nts, natural or red. e kof th
as uncalled foracq asui it wasThabsurd and un•e

NNELL said that he was in the habit of be:
he did not mind it. He had agitated, t'gam
:cessfully, against that faction which le
Lawman now publicly disclaimed. But bed
trued gentleman's merits were known--allitil
ady to do justice to his well-known reer'th
now filled than he (Mr. O'Connell) 4°5
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him where he was, in the office of Recorder ,
,y could place whom they pleased theret:h:
h bar had no chance of competing With
ice. did
said that the magistrates of Kilkenny
and that they had only themselves to
:th the county was.
coal;
3ERT surned with the most sovereign
that the gentlemen who sat around hi
house by agitation.
NNELL said he would not press the questill
withdraw his amendment. • ter°
CTWOOD rose, but was immediately iu I
seated cries of ("Question.") t
IRMAN • then rose for the purpose of pu
sea
INGHAM stood up, but the noise wh1cli),111:
iccasioned by coughing, and cries of ,5
me, as to induce the hon. member to
this rob
E rose, and declared that if the hon. met
express his opinion on the question L'„l,
Ir. Hume) would, at once move that the
air and report progress. Did they wish to
nits from being heard ? d to
INGHAM again rose, and said that he ha
he rules of the house ever to infringe tif,,
id too much regard for the public time ve-
thened period the attention of those engat',
te. The hon. member then proceeded Leda.,
uof the preamble of the bill-. He cont.
utmost importance that the truth or fa''i;
should be decided, inasmuch as all the e°
bill depended on it. that
man then put the original question,
bill be postponed, which was agreed t0.,..s
RMAN next put the question, that the P',s
F the bill, and proceeded to read it as folloip
acted, by the King's most excellent 31,1
advice and consent of the Lords spirituaL
commons, in this present Parliament
ful
uthority of the same, that it shall be laWno
uant, or other chief governor or goveru-

I].
L. DuLLER opposed the amendment.
p "wl' a considered it necessary to pass the clause as
I_l:e.sent stood, because political agitation had attained a
was He felt it utterly incompatible with good government.
whien necessary to offer his explanation of the
b he intended to give, because he knew that he
c%exposed to imputations in Ireland.
r. 04, IsTliAs'spoke against the amendment.
vezt,"o.,rizt.t. expressed his surprise that the hon.. member
4, ru Mr. Lambert) should. complain of political agi-
olieseause if it had not been for agitation respecting the
• qtiestion he, being a Catholic, would not have had a
In that h
ti
0118 e.
"Ea'r observed, that although he approved of the
he watsespecting the Catholic question, it did not__fnocrlllwn
lid (Hearprove of the agitation at present prevailing ')
r.efia
theoil,an, Mr. Walker, and Mr. Dominick Browne sup-
sa tmi,e.:;lllse, on the ground that it was necessary. to
• agitation, which had reached an alarming

ld.. 041. c thnen
en,t was then negatived.
ille ncrcßla. said, that he wished to propose, as an
141,1 riset the remainder of the clause after the words.
xiil mbly" should be omitted, but he felt himself
itleli siantisted• Ile had now been actively engaged in dis-
a further five o'clock, and he had not physical strength to
trelaer• Under these circumstances, he hoped the noble
es of ,eensent to the clause being postponed till to-morrow.
14 r ‘Gess ° On.") He moved that the chairman should
orcpgr.
Ile to atallie, el' expressed a wish that the committee should
r.(),Coe,le,n upon the clause.
RI: • NELL withdrew his amendment.
15. InvENT then moved that the chairman report pro-
tr.
oc9.ries of " Divide.")
lvere‘j,°NtiELL put it to the house whether.the Irish mem;
,11,, h(Le be allowed an opportunity of defending themselves .
at that) He had an amendment to propose to the clause,
lassi, late hour he was unwilling to commence a fresh
r. Gn.
e huRINIG thought it was too bad that the whole business
her ha should be stopped because the hon. and learnedn
teortiie_d exhausted himself by attending a political union
P. o,e,eg• (Hear, hear.)
Rust. 'el,ll4El-1. denied that he had shown any symptons of
i, It°ll,, and said that he little expected such a species of
en° be the pon him by one who boasted that he was a
4011 tative people.
hierl 4,1"11011P thought it unreasonable in the hon. and
rik„ ember to ask the chairman to report progres before
Ir. mße under consideration was disposed of. (Hear.)
4.• Clo • CoNNELL accused the hon. member for Shoreham
pers„t'llg) with haying been guilty of needless and uncalled
~lialilY towards the hon. and learned member for Dub-
Valy,nr ) ; but he advised the hon. member to look to
" °'
ue alighthimself to a similar personal a-
lt., f,(l-learsubject
PBalt's:,°,ll4NG said thatthat the hon. and learned member had
Wenty times in the course of that night that
the Vhaust ed. With respect to personal attacks, he put it
ttcheti'llse whether the hon. and learned member had not
erect f %it into personalities against every member who
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011'941: him, and endeavoured to browbeat him for utter-
'lir, Oilhons• (Hear, hear.)
~,gilort,l,l'rEa und st od the object of the noble lo.rd
"14v - ' •7as to haveertheo clause read, in order to enable him
'se, eatclie ainendinent, which he had already described to the
?1111,,,c1eq I(v)lo)tueiLiti
take forma The discussion of the cladse so
)1 e,
r. 0,0 . place on the next day of the committee's
ts the °'\NtLt. said he would not, upon that understanding,
tter *nton for the chairman to report progress.
etideal short discussion upon the effect of the proposed
eN pert: it was moved by Mr. Stanley. Its object was to
e.‘b,B ;01--°,11,,s who should violate the enactments of the first
is lc
lli-et?be trice pie d. tion of the courts-martial, and leave
'I), haw, and punished according to the ordinary course
'.,ll.('ealliennirlirrie4lll,ll having beenthe motion
adopted
on h motion- of 'Lord Althorp, reported
Pie tp and„htained leave to sit again on Friday.
.I.lcls •'n Any brought in a bill to regulate corpo-
,,t,„ 1,11 Berm OCATE.
k' -si't tiro, a first time, and ordered to be read
vi e ell Friday.
it):::, Ric, REGISTERING BARRISTERS.
181',.‘5.11 be gave notice, that he would on Friday move that
_
'fht-"tlg b tiade to defray the expenses incurred by the
4.k e oth 41riSters under the Reform Bill.
. —llNettli,torders of the day being disposed of, the house
11,11. , ge•if-past one o'clock.
i a' tto r lIIURSDAY, MARCH LI.
titPliloisik4okf
tpresented a petition from Truro for the better
Ltd -•';.,,,a,„.,‘ Sabbath; from the same place for an inquiryre
",ltial'f- (leolit:14'1 laws; and from the panshes of St.Atned
inw.
4rz-t qth °e*Ule-Martyr, London, complaining of h
ro 011kse land-tax. .
bested/3N;),4„ 11,1,aintained that it would be very unfair to those
L' air ran • 'neir property in the land-tax to have it repealed
Le
r: e 00},L; With the wish of the petitioners.
ql4e(bedlll4,s prepared to show that the inequality might
1
rrt(Y,. .'l`"ellt any injury to the holders of that species of
0,,J CoNN
iiiehq ill fa .Ell. had a petition to present from the city of
he b was 8.%,„()wr of a better observance of the Sabbath, and
..Rtllo4. iall'ned by persons of all parties and persuasions.
6ir i Whetie,lllber was proceeding to support the prayer at
RVI I,v bur'• was called to order by
rite)3 sp ~,.'l.ll)Lay on the ground that the practice of mak-
.l h:linr,"" On ihe presentation of petitions was a great
94L,„ Asti, eof the house. (Hear, hear.)
itto, itti'z'Presented petitions from the cotton-weavers
mof
tok-6:l,Chorley from Bishopsgate-withont, an r 9
-"11 favour' of the Factories Labour Regulation
litir• -
kt of

VNELL here rose, and proposed, as an 81:12_,.
a* the word " Ireland" the following
athority of the judges of the Court of T-ingrvi
,r any two of them." The hon. and lea
that the object of his motion was to wal
s
udicial persons, who would be immediate,
iament for their act, necessary to the Fu
on of meetings and assemblies. The h°llc°l so
fiber concluded by observing, that he hail,
not as not to render the sanction of a'
'ish judges necessary to legalize the °Jill

LEY said he had heard the amendments
ind learned member, himself a lawyerfAi
ise, because that hon. and learned mein a
isious, in terms as just as they were function'
r„nctio
ogling of judicial with executive
1 men proposed to introduce an amen al
e direct effect of blending the judicial
f°Ore,
Dn the grounds he had stated, there
amendment.
4NELL said that declamations in favour °Co
the constitution came with a peculiar
L. secretary, who had done his best to
ion, as far, at least, as it related to 'revs,
very bill, was about to put down charliig
; totally unconnected with political &ell

1101
.nt PERRIN objected to the transfer vi tit
cake of the legislative
_power to the exe%e
however, very strong doubts as to the ;),'/
and assemblies which were pointed tat b3'
ly did not come within the scope °I
danger of their continuance consequ,f
tb
or,
k statme
verneofnt, which was
ally subjected toited. ell
things natur exc g
would be more injudicious, and pa:ee,
liberty, to vest the judges with the Ptc):,l‘,4
ings, than to transfer that power at
Hour observed, that he should hardly I'3
and learned gentleman needed to have 1
it the constitution, on the subject of
sion of the constitution.
wits looked at the clause with consiuero-0
a lord-lieutenant with very. arbitraiY 1
1. said (as far as we could undertn't)
whether it was necessary to strengte`ichel
invent of Ireland beyond the law,
in of agitation should be suffered to Conti
eater enemy than he to arbitraq Peiwneriti
kind was necessary to enable the
.13. vigour against the system of agitai'

, inrabl° ,_ali
CNELL complained of the ael,ltat WA'',
the hon. member, in supposing.. (Coo
illy the question before the hollid be ft;
question was, whether there shoal of
eland. (Hear.) Would the t, autoaaut
clause, or must the Lord Lie lace ? t,
are what meetings should take Pt toiaist
ilk about agitation. The presto tboY
ith admirable mock-modesty, " hear.) i
ided by agitation. (Hear, hear, , e
D' to ----
? (Cheers from the oppositi°l" .1 kietitt, anox
now tu 1,
.ae dot__ presented a petition from Aberdeen, for a re-
clause hoped the house would, that tb
I. "d duty
malt ; from Huntly, for a repeal of the duty
clause under consideration, atwhear.) k ~serva„ 11l several Presbyteries in Scotland, for the
to add fuel to.the fire. (Heal', ~.., of „ u eo,le of the sabbath.
would adopt the recommendatill oceaso :o:table i'`r., LL said that he had given notice of a motion of
san admirable pacificator 00 ,olligete tieSiaefe tt,9°l'tance to Ireland, and which had been
ward to to mediate between two " itAle.A ve INII th,t „Portant by recent circumStances ; but as he had
s there were exceptions of charbers Opt, 'Jr f e'louse many reproaches thrown out against Irish
i were no exceptions, Hon. meulotecti7 14'41, ipettie isTisluning so much of the public time, and pre-
-150 orphans being deprived of Pfl? Ati .ith.rgi,Bllol,ldluess of the people of England being proceeded
might take place under this bi.`,,nate; •tililltittdks on that account, though himself knowing the
y than they had now got might ' / tot kti: ha4B2ledas of those reproaches, postpone the motion
n meetings be prevented? ofileasf 41, 14 othe.-F for to-night till another opportunity.
VER said that by this act the Pfdrehe fis aißetiss,rnhusiness was postponed, in order to make way
lof the protection of the law, ;Lull' 14N,. T__of the Church Reform (Ireland) bill.
ed despotism, or mitigated onlY
~o, I, N1.,,,e04N.,, (.14(v8E.11Pooi, BOROUGH COMMITTEE.
be men they were subject to. dicislu ; e4etit"teu°.,,,aid it was impossible for him to follow the ex-
ment was negatived without a
t tot l'r tf)trlthe '','.' Imstpone his motion. The matter was so
e agreed to. ,„oni•red, tql.tit ,i; ilghtest delay would prove a serious inconveni-
tse empowering the Lord Lieute,r c i 24. h_ Ii Parties for whorale appeared. The other night he
u„dici, feaatsl, of vterpt;ititetition from the corporation of Liverpool. praying
person?' from assembling
lead to a breach of the peace
..beent,r'th 44 hitt (4; kt)l' counsel before the committee on the borough of
Arms proposed as an mendl:, 4,1)(1' 441,11etiti jit was now his intention to more that the prayer
only in "proclaimed districts,
on tbeo..!„,)•tell tl ,A cesti,`,l._ be complied with. It was not his desire that
EY objected to the aniendfa°°,"farcillanctvve„teith'eak V delay should be occasioned by this proceeding,
ild be the tempting—in tir'wa, oot wo•s4trgel. er pit,te, Willing to agree to any arrangement to one
of proclaim a district which the bill cltil,let"4ef llhet„, from having the assistance of more than one
he
The main object 0
core th,,e foci, ,;),re th ,ivell'ble lord concluded by moving that the corpo-
use agitation schemes which,
gra% %d Cai, We Live °l be heard, either 1i -'themselves themselves or counsel,
iances in Ireland. Now, tten, whic ,ote9ll6e. ttle4B(L/ o,l°ol borough committee.
Dubil„ frouletei . ,gitation was the city of ,N,r, intsavpsed the motion,. on the ground that it would
urbance (loud cries of " Hettt_,locat l's
tit reslB N'tble ex?eleation of the corporate funds, and delay to a
:if the gallant member's amen .
roelai!u,o4thattils,ichott, slit the proceeding of the committee.
ateuant would be forced to y„,,, being 0•,,,)1, hi.,
e i ,„t4 r-Moase 111)11c:sited the Motion. He knew that upwards
it its peaceable inhabitants iquon.
weLlied ''''3llC the 41"letisel,fer witnesses had been issued, and be thought
unset and before sunrise. ,be invest e . th e
one for d'-'ce %
~..., Are 4.,7'1111-littpg'lBB of evidence which would be brought be-
the Lord Lieutenant woula
I. 41' of eo `e could not be satisfactorily investigated with-
distinct from the other-1) of the pse,aao ,:latiqc). CoyiN....uuset.
q) w xt./.., 8 •
.eetings tending to a breaf for the ? :
cli 174,1,. (AIM, if aid that , the. propeoition of the noble lord
ig a district, and a thiruot conne"„L di-0 4fered thile
I. These three were pLat ,here -,.1., , p.w -c alto
eon acceded to, only lead,to delay and ruinous
ctau 1 84, YNN• 'I au
dsidered that the appointment of nominees
iy no means followed.,tt. also e.;
ti 'le -lb. ' SUp ee of counsel unnecessary.
la .` attOra r kit ,Q.SOn. POr
at courts-martial should
ake an
bell
et
C t- d aeeuseated the motion, because 'he thought that
rs were prepared to 11:1 retneving,o +het eitlttlett:i an oppo,' ef so heinous an offence as bribery should
yould have the effectstrict, altobbe J Niikhla NVlLLttlity c.f, defetadin.hiinself.
in even a proclaimed 'it, them to x„lte,‘ st the cur, thought the case which would be made
a military
.tribuna , , "oar.)
- , -11 • tql)**ll‘, `. Y for th 'on of Liverpool so flagrant, that there
ry civil jurzsdiction:ibil;on. entic•nnt 1 l:kti'NETT ,ide employment of counsel..
HELL begged the rir
reclaim Lord Lle I\t:`:ntua 'be. ,j hagtB2rl WaS tenthrrred.
)11 the one hand,
an une.•-•.,irtt ir co4tttc that the, object of:the noble, lord's
Which ha. 4 h? impediments. in the way of invesj.igat-
amendment to
P%ed districts na_ifiori t' N;Btit te.ohhuse, after ;eti hufore-the house for three years. il
:s of those undistu
as it stood tofr „eacei pc„,4,,t k \the attendaa"PPointing nominees, would not give its
heed by the clause as
that tlteirdel,polhoel,,lei V.
,4,•
IttpLEy p„._e of counsel.
i disturbed ones,
exemption front , _ focoi y
eyit ii- Many yoilia—gretted, that the committee was cora-
mum them an
frentleman that Mc
ettY ' 4044% ladViSable gan inexperienced members, and he
the right hou• e- bauce,
was a, pr 0 ri h 'Ca.
framer efe ho
it that th • . . .
etelnyestigations should be assisted
l free from distur .
ns of its h atled • lenTh
et v
assertp
i' turbance. 1 e at. its , e.r, WhO salA
I the unfounded. .
with c is
,too'. A, tet,d constituti u. that he belonged to the committee,
identified agitation doter
sit \rh •ur, b anee of on. was
id support the „.„
that • , (44, 'w• ... coinisel also expressed an opinion that
ONT would
ttina gal •ti
~. AnvEy „, unnecessary.
it necessary to pu ~
ne(
f Ireland. . .
4. of the li",, sientle was of • •
men would t, °Pinion that the-presence of pro-
ves the curse o
„li•O•oi.) „„ ....,e
•be of great advantage to the cona-
felt that the Ma ' foilV. i"
""
its t'dote in its ,
arauders
6,
carried an i „ in
n had presumed to all

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