The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-06-20 00:00:00

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to ,
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itd h: Of Private warehouses, or of warehouses.
views here expressed,, as to
toti J Partie shaving •no public funds at their disposal
efol,le" ill focNI Whin:Nies, we have very opportunely,,-
.e N a
ileinti il Prospectus, just issued, of
whie4 'c'ekg and Warehouses," in the estimates
" the lierculoaf tilnar,,ive fitid the cost of the land put down at per2f2s.,are.
hount: Y4rd, and the erection of "16 fire-proof .IN .
t q
,with i • '
ted
4 4 eolit , i)lPlngand reservoirs complete,"
fiestima,
e) v+e li„ ' • • '
144(1.0 e--.....
I,4r,ri r 16 tvarehousz!s, say 6,720
p 3. 4t 2,14
11 or
vtis, with piping
•
and reser-
110oi„.tt_ .16 fire-proof Nvare-
rt cotoplete

£7,392 0 0

73,920 0 0

0 0
£81,310
Bi )4t ll
40ti le
rate of 12 per square yard; and taking
Iv(' hlve" (and the height is not stated)
Wh4t3 4'{ before, £2 per floor.
be drawn
fro at, the thea, is the obvious conclusion to
to be the size,
A'ep e 4 Acts ' \Ve are warehousing cotton, in
rov
'44:4. ioarehouses in Liverpool, at the present tri.o-
-t• •" one ' •
and this is le
it'lred 4,, Perm
per Per bale p€r week „
to/ity,
,ider our existing system ofimperfect class -
man ttnq ,h4lr4f ‘vbiell Inore bye and Coy_
bye) to Pr
NI Rea of ts,
thebut two
c /1
arehouses which have cost
s.
any
rt'an (,4e's 891 tare yard p„
.floor, heed we ask 1414 t b °call Perfor
has
Nit
gez the Paying price in a warehouse which
Ike
'na Sum in simple arithmetic) et-
.1
P 444? Why, obviously, four tunes )what

' Ife
44,1 11143' be told, indeed., about saving in insurance
.it. i f etly
f4ttie44tihet th4tter4 of the kind;
;444241:Q '4l)poNc. that such saringbeuatn4let-'sonpeeirl,e.ebtilc'ilsi
the
(1:'It(liel.1)41-1eY• With the competition to
is.
i,,lcioite
ele4t
ti Warehouses must be exposed'
market
1'44 11,at they will he compelled to accept of m
will
itkitlee 6e entptY• Nothing, except compulsion,
can
1144 f' th4u to buy that for fourpence
Oriee a Dehtly; 4tici Icompulsory. fourpence
cart
' 14e entire , . • from our Pin
it, Dom,
r, 'rode in warehousing
-iteit -' otrittlittee, therefore, must which
would
warehouse,corrent
Tkt„Patetit
for the . There
d I 'Wet), establishments,
44, tt• 4?: h'et us see then how they will stand Quays, we.
Lelieve,t:e Pre hoildini, . on the Albert
.ile fair
I'4 centswarehouss, for'swhich we suppose '
about
t2,,,,Ntild be. ch4r, • .
consistently The
01,0-') eadh.
they
eglng thoseevceurr,rent rates'
with
logs, char !hey 1,,_8
.a.n lot, how
rates' ~;,,
lilt: thei.ec)l_, 7 titan four tunesltvhilolsebe
somet.ins....
C.titree '4O the dock estate ,
....
receipt '
1144 k, illndred
er
hu, r , cent. upon tne" in figures.
's...eve-, we shall state our case

Time are, Mari, in the Albert Deck quayai 75 wire.
houses, For these say
75 warehouses, at £2CO each rental , •
should be, to leave a profit upon their
cost, four times the rental, or .

Loss. therefore, per annum

£15,000

60,000

45,000!

Now, we ask those gentlemen who are driving us
towards a further plunge into a system of such out-
rageous waste, how soon the carrying out of their
views, under the direction of the gentlemen, who have
managed thus far the erection of our dock warehouses,
would beggar the estate whose funds they lavish so
freely upon this, their favourite hobby horse ? They
may tell us of " systems"—of insurances--of excellent

management ; hut these last are nothing. Can they
disprove our figures ? We tell them that the figures

in question are THEIR OWN ! As to the cost of these
warehouses, they are condemned out of their own
And we appeal fearlessly to our fellow-
townsmen for a reply to the question which we now
put—whether it is not rather their duty to pause and
watch closely the working of the warehouses already in
course of erection on the quays, than to remit that
breathing space of two years—which the legislature so
wisely allowed—and rush madly into a course of
which the issue is destruction to the best interests of
the port,:

mouths !

We shall return to this subject. In the meantime,
we need scarcely remind any Liverpool merchant that
the security from fire, of which so much is said, and
the classification of merchandise which is so desirable,
are matters perfectly attainable in the warehouses of
private individuals, if we are willing to pay for them.
Let merchants, if they are anxious for security for
their goodS, resort to the best constructed warehouses
already!existing, instead of running, for a paltry saving
of a farthing or an eighth of a penny, to any old rotten
shell of building, in which proper stowage is impos-
sible, and the chances rather in favour of than ayainst
combustion

THE MANCHESTER GUARDIAN AND TILE
WAREHOUSES OF LIVERPOOL.

The Manchester Guardian is not the most scrupulous per-
sonage in the world of journalism at any time; but, when he
has a point to gain from an opponent he is a terrible despiser
of every kind of hesitation with respect to the quality, or the
usefulness, of the instruments which he uses. In his advo-
cacy of the question of bonding warehouses in Manchester,
for instance, not a stray piece of folly could drop from any
quarter, at all likely to serve his purposes, which was not
forthwith appropriated, and levelled against this poor port of
Liverpool ; but if the folly in question was the perpetration
of any maddened Liverpool radical—however stupid—or
could be tortured from the lips of any Liverpool Conserva-
tive, it was seized upon with an avidity, perfectly maniacal
in appearance. Need we wonder, such being the propensi-
ties of
.our contemporary, that during the past week he has
been in a perfect ecstacy of delight with the opportunities,
which Liverpool merchants and Liverpool journalists have
afforded him, for the advocacy, at their expense, of his
favourite hobby ?

We are compelled, however, though reluctantly, to dispel
a few of the visions which he has embodied, or rather reduced
to type, in an article in his last publication. We shall,
therefore, to the best of our power, and as briefly as we can,
do this seriatim. First, then, in the article in, question,
which is headed "Bonding warehouses in Manchester—the
Liverpool warehouse owners," the Guardian remarks, that
" In consequence of the recent fires in Liverpool warehouses,
anti the apparent apathy with which they are regarded in that
town, the London assurance offices had again increased their
rates ; so that, at present, the cost of insurance in Liverpool
becomes very nearly £2 per cent. ; whilst in London it is
2s. Gil., and in Manchester ss. per cent."
In reply to this statement we can inform our contemporary
that in Liverpobl the rates of insurance are, upon a floating
policy, 355.; and, for specific insurances, 275., 205., and 17s.
In Manchester, no doubt they have been ss. ; but we can
assure him, for his comfort, that the attention of the fire
offices having been drawn- to this low rate, by the boastings
of the Guardian himself, (! !) the people of that great town
will have the pleasure of paying somewhat more for the
future. Already the rate ou mills has been raised from 16s.
to 275. ; and we fully calculate that the rate on warehouses
(which is now left open for future decision) will be at least

20s. per cent.
Upon the observations of the Guardian, with respect to
the warehouse owners, and their influence in getting rid of
the " Fire Prevention Bill," we shall only remark, with
every deference to the gentleman whom the Guardian very
aptly describes as " a Mr. Todd," that the warehouse owners
were not the parties, whose influence obstructed that bill.
The real party was one rather nearer to the dock warehouses,
so complacently regarded by our contemporary, than is very
generally understood.
After giving to his readers a quantity hf the trash of his
Mr. Todd—of whom we make him a present—the Guardian
remarks upon the assertion of that gentleman, as to the high
charges for warehousing in this port ; and about some query
having been put to an insurance company as to the rate
which would be charged for insuring cotton in a " barn at
Fulwood." Now, first with respect to the " high charges."
The rate of a penny per bale per week is an extreme rate.
The average in Liverpool is three farthings; and, Mr. Todd;
or any other importer of cotton, could at this moment con-
tract for the year round at three farthings. Large importers,
of which Mr. Todd is not one, never pay more than three
farthings ; and that rate is lower than is charged in any port
in the kingdom ! A penny farthing is the rate in London ;
and, with respect to the advancing rates of insurance upon
cotton in Liverpool, the rates are advancing every where.
And, now for this barn at Fulwood—where cotton it would
seem has been conveyed for greater safety—what does our
contemporary imagine was the reply of the insurance offices
to the question put to them with respect to it? Why, that
they would not insure it at any price
As further excellent authorities, we observe that the Guar-.
dian has got hold of some letters and statements, which have
appeared in the columns of a contemporary, who deals very
frequently in mare's nests, and other equally valuable dis-
coveries. Of course we need not say that we. refer to the
Liverpool Times. We shall not trouble ourselves with the
Liverpool Times; or his correspondents, except to quote the
following, which we give entire, with a few remarks in reply.
The writer, who signs the initial C., states that—.
" It is a fact, that 1,000 bales of cotton may be removed
direct from the ship to Manchester, warehoused and insured
there for twelve months, and then returned to Liverpool, at
less cost than the same can be warehoused and insured in
this town. This is not stated as a supposition, but on a
basis formed for a real transaction, which will probably be
carried out by the party, and perhaps hereafter extensively
imitated. if any thing be yet necessary to show the dis-
graceful state into which we have fallen here, it is thus
furnished :