The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-03-19 00:00:00

ium of the duty and drawback, by

est Indies are most valuable colonies'
the complaints of the planters,
f individual distress, were even Brill°
4s. IP' cwt. lower in this kingdom,
uce, when on board, in these eolonie6
:ed the seal value of supplies, of 611
this country. In such a state of
ruined, but a nation never can.
interests of the refiners aro closely
British West India merchants. At
of sugar as is consumed in this ki:
I almost the whole of the British ,
employed in refining.
being Valuable, and many advantage)
Thole of the sugar conveyed to this
n of a latent bounty works well.
be lost to us, this nation neither
to pay a latent bounty of equal ext,
in this country, of sugar produced
ivance in price would reduce the
Lsumed in this country ; and the
itally lost to British refiners. The)
1 colonies, of the soil of which we a)
!ign colonies, in trading to which,
full equivalent must be given.

YE FREEMEN OF LIVERPOOL.
CD YELLOW TOWNSMEN,—Beware
care of youselves, and see that yo)
That real friend of yours who spent
.n November 1830, in tempting you
ived in town again from London, an,
ry cases. Beware of this sleek-head'
;," and see that he does not again
Be true to yourselves and your broi
w your disgtist and contempt for,
in, when he became a freeman, al
nes protect your liberties and franca
ANTI-RAD

11, Gi,
n,, ~t.rr.Asr said that the powers given to the Lord-
,f,`.' by this clause were so vast and unlimited, that he
hetl,aa.t yllicer might prevent any convivial meeting at
SuLinctied political toasts would be drunk.
Iw_, uroa-GENEitAL said that the amendment proposed
Win„ and learned member for Dublin was wholly mean-
La the spirit of the clause. The hon. and learned
tP,!'oeposed to allow any number of persons to assemble,
tUI I.r object was to petition against a grievance. Now,
'say what was a grievance? The hon. and learned
VILLIAM EIV-MT, ESQ.. M. P. thought,t, the. Established Church a grievance,—some
present letter, I shall neither mak :IV
rateeism a grievance,—and others the want of poor-
than this : I am one of your constin O,IT ()posed amendment would nullify the whole clause.
to exertions to place you iu the prow Ini wYta trusted the house would adopt the proposed
etit, and thus mitigate in sonic degree the severity of
Lecirr.ibeoe,ncroachment on the constitution..
un dissatisfied with your conduct.
ince I certainly rejoiced in the Wei
'elldell'G (we believe) said he was willing to intrust all
ine of the representatives in Pali ; ,red necessary by the state of Ireland to the Lord-
it place; but I am bound to confer ,a.via...nnt. he was ready to give his consent to any amend-
uent political conduct be more Aliq arid constitution
its. objec.t ihe preservation of one. of-the most
r election far more than ever I trial . ti3.A:snitittot
tostniteuatitornAlaeritgilltsaffeett
oefpt.ehoeple,rovided it could
clause.
ing a great deal. 9I( - a o man w. "I %ttht'AlE said th t u cIS mole convinced than he
j . of erepal
io" krto hetandof the union would be a proceeding most inju-
hes you had made in Parliament, aa
askaesd wweiLltaswetoultlebeemdeireeeantselagrge
u make at the hustings and elsewhe,r.e;',o! )14,r1-leet:sit
consequence if they did
ik that should you be re-elected, his 31'''',00 .Itti;t,
ale,this amendment ? If they did not allow the people
epend upon you, as one who, having ado ,ktllqtiolialn%? state their grievances, the refusal of that con-
%bii audritiislittatuboauld giveirliesaer, moreiiar and more, olato.ailliesaubaorbdit-1
d confidence in their uprightness °pi.
them in every practicable measuren i 4 33,4tiautig,,Ilt in, the orjeec. t of( which wase' .t)o put down the' Catholic
land, and which it was well known to a
00 ieKe thus.' Mr. Brougham, with reference to that measure,
: brought forward at the earliest la , kt4'l bieei, ,"I am the advocate of the right of the Irish peo-
rlith
ali1(.1; a_ I;nmeonrsaidner, to. plan, to petition, to remiotnstrasetet, to
igh I heard you advocate the vote farrv'
e only a young man, and hoping Paj t,
d thlit!l 4;:ig4, ZS „1111Collp:rtornusits:—„tirrerchotnhewhich
lel of Turtle-
how you this radical error), I did e- 1111,11itekol as the whole of England,—that the more energetic
believe many others, and they in all /.,e;fl' ttirallßliagsetace, provided that it be peaceable,—the stronger
a of your constituents, did also, the'll'of 4 ?tett, filerazeuleeitprtohveiidregeimtebaenreeasfetcitlfeuml,—eretheeotinfoorrieufaim
tative, you would rank among those °ill, ititi!l eau t° the highyinterests of those who have all at stake
do.
ii , iv,iliqeiy
Itil'ender life desirable, or existence honourable; and
:rate Whigs. But, instead, what
nstance, you are called upon to vote, Y°v• ?kg •tkilav(,,e,likpy to succeed than any abject course, which
eilasttrihiest,wTraseLf-Arolvaisetisopneict)efnerrectilre.'o' f (hl-ilse.ra.)_
gainst the ministry, which you had prel; , feN,ittY.'le laT(silli
wised to support, and (apparently fro'''. of trq:lljiasltilet ministers, could now sanction the carrying, with
tgainst that man, who, by the coneuriet 91 titleteth e right measure which took away the protection derived
t eyAllst 44r: of petitio.ning, and rndered null and void one cif
artial persons, was the most compete'' of
i.or ek rQ kr ,itant privileges of thee people ? (Hear, hear.) This
et most arduous, situation of Spea'"tbe kfi4:°raq ißlit produce temporary quietness; it might effect
ts ! and you give this vote too with i, lott,,llB44aeitication; but, at a future time, those who sup.
tif Mr. Manners Sutton were reiectO e iiirtl. llatt!ystem might be overwhelmed by the excitation
Illab(ilepot;llcs,rinzlsltusrei,v:ined byethe vengeance demanded for
addled with an additional pension of to
h w re the inherent property of
after this to talk of economy and "ere ' Ilb 411.• 811:114 of Ireland. (Hear, hear.)
will believe you? Why sir, you 3is lee. 4 d4e,,et,iaßL laid, the exact point of the amendment was, that
vote
i, c'ti'lleldi.tfoati ilott ouvvladst,a4uiltoacteheinloarraugateimnaendt.disVhcatz uwnalsesas
wn vote, and that, too, the first
ste you give in a reformed House,: v INte(llBtlier,:eedent to the meeting. But what was the case' if
s vote your sincerity is as likely ' not proclaimed? Why there, also, the lord-
,ii):ll4 ;!_ords:)ll_ld have the power of preventing a meeting. In
Hume's disinterestedness, when he
thetrieti:4ke
tplauenelesesiti!.ehe jord-lireoucteliant pleas e& no miceting
ne small advances to the unfortunate brk
ap Ts s
ell
nmtee da
law,
treny reorce :itenfiti et
Ind interest on his loans. I have Olaire t'l r;4llritke ter this billrfliand
oo
an, and though this vote somewhat 5t icrit ttpeet th,ofe.nother part ot the legislature, either to carry or
Irish Church Reform Bill. (Hear, hear.)
fight it possible you might in some actor, r,;4,1,11,Ait,
a view of gaining popularity with Ycrof otitetide,ab's Laid, that the discussion on the hon. and learned
mseeedtieolirezvaligiceilaitl?
)hreis.
that, as Mr. Hume has many adOlicepoi 4411(1 41' tr,elluclenineclumt eonnt h d n o
the II nth
--that is, be one of his tail! All this; fiei: t14,4t,t'11 1n:(34,,ay with the necessity of obtaining the lord-llieu-
nstrous as it appears in one point 51(
~4,11.. ,i, consent to meetings for petitioning Parlia-
ears in another-7ff
court subsequellt of I Ilatttaaw%l.„,soN had sat in Parliament for fourteen years, but
estructice, and more nsstent with) 0;1 Ilill;allss;',exhibitions as he had recently witnessed within
le hustings :—but what next do 1 set,e,bple iil,lll4lltieo which were calculated to lower the character
:,:le,
paities ,_r,l the eyes of the country,—he alluded to the
late political proceedings closely) /: for/ i ti 'no ilged in durino• the discussions on this bill
e for the bill introduced by Ministe'.(s,l tl'),,lNfe-eularlyt 0
e, I,_ he ... the ministerial. side of
.the house : at the
e and outrage in Ireland, on the 11; 'i 3/447 had di '''?B bound in justice to admit that gentlemen
nut them, on an amendment, on oi.4lei 1111 t, Series estPl,,,Ved great calmness and moderation. (Laugh-
:rein,' . Oh oh!"
is exemplified your political 01'404/
it,ll lekitt:tLEY denied th.at)it was intended to put down meet-
I tell you, sir, you are by such 01),,(t, ,(Z.,Rli 4111,t.telY assembled for the purpose of petitioning. But
r representative. You either de voj ) (rl!lyleasat:rellut meant to infringe the right of petitioning
it was essential, in the present state of the
ye not firmness to act up to it. t 3,6,1 11`!t-IS,t,ilat the
ruesftoi
:01,.„0Ilee, the I, (.1 lieutenant should be constituted, in the
to any man that which I claim f°/ e
rfieedthin su
Wl/4ks 1 r the u Juqge of what was likely to be bona fide a
e judgment—but surely if there rat
iols 4
tikk,lL,t . exercise of that privilege. The lord-lieutenant
after the promises you had mad!teo jer ppressing a bona-fide meeting for
, („117k therefore
I expressed in his Majesty's Mid -`'/ukitli\:maintained teee i)temienndcli ins eeunts
ab wasle unnecessary.
As
iot
e a Seuncdh_
ort them, the more especially, as Y:cot bo tlier.lY effect would he to &pose the lord-lieutenantra to
ies did vote with them on the cola 00 00
.t,o,lrap.ai.r the. efficiency of the bill.
, a A 470tivided .
case, and that the powers wocti isd
'lg a iT, e amendment B5
ke the man in the fable, blow likrothl t 4 iit it
itfl 565 e
h. Yet when another measure is ece f 114
ris -

ill), you do not appear to think ;at j'
eats on this important measure, e coo
ion,—and, therefore, I expect to 1,1511°
k again, and exclaim with the 8i cola
tor lost. I have much more that that
resent will conclude with sayiils'froll3
'ory, or Radical—must, judging
e you as a friend.
open enemy's a curse,
a pretended friend is worse." aduct'
I only look to your political c°101c)
formed you are all that is arn:if I
it to examine and to denounce

At '41:141. ret4,Majority
!110,the'YNcii'll to the gallery we found
o he:Od of en° his legs, proposing the insertion of a roviso
clipthetottii,°•°B44,lte first clause, to the effect that the act should
a`les, or to extend, or in any manner to affect meetings
ttacat tltairby thr divisions of counties, called by the lord-lieute-
toll,' shne, sheriff of the county, or by (our magistrates;
lat7l a-arttLoWitll not extend to any public meeting iu any bo-
-4 bor°oritieurPoratc, called by the mayor or oth9r.cunst.i-
ittle ,:,or to any meeting of auy ward or division in
'by
'owns corporate, when so convened.
igy ptslito•geatle,saitt that such a proviso was unnecessary, as
b-inilant I,7:it and the house might rely upon it that the
pi so a old not exercise the powers confided to him
,to ,I°4l,Ritt of Bto interfere in an improper way with the sub-
ProviPetition. If, however, the hon. member would
14,47b0t e to -t} t° stand Over till the report on the bill, so as
41 say thate Fovernment to consider the proposition, he
Port' would then object to the insertion of at
Said Of the proviso.
!tout. Itri3viso sta.' Jilider such circumstances, that he would
LeitaA GttATTA:Z Over until the bringing up of the report.
"it• Ould be gi-, Proposed as an amendment, that previous
{tgThh4fore it caraea of the proclamation of the Lord-Lieu-
he it Into effect; but, after a few words from
I)4„AtamArsi °reW it.
gto Qf the Put the question, the first clause should
kkqlt 1)v r, •
P. tOOk
:ai the opportunity to protest against it
Klist • • O'e,-,
...,NllO,
t,also took that opportunity to protest
OAP
, L tacEy
her .111 s. AL said
11, 111„k destr. that in his opinion the very essence
a4t,,q, that the -Se" bY the confession of ministers, the
PPression ofcttrst-ulartial clause was not to be applied
*e
great political meetings which he,