The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-12-17 00:00:00

LONDON LATEST NEWS.

- Saturday Evening, hall-past Seven.o'clock.
We have had no animation whatever in our Cousol market
since we wrote last, and 881 may be considered the average
price of ,Consols for Account. Excheqtier Bills are 43 to 45,
and India Bonds 22 to 24 premium.
In the Foreign Stock market the various securities are within
a fraction of our last prices. Belgian Bonds are 951 Rus-
sian 1021 103, Danish 721 73, and Dutch 21 per Cents. 49/T to
50. In Portuguese Stock scarce any transactions have taken
place; the Old Bonds are 56 57, and the Regency 561 1. Spa-
nish Bonds are 231 1.
The advices from Portugal,—and we consider that they aro
entitled to credit,—state that Don Miguel had positively refused
the armistice solicited
.by ColoneL Hare. We, in our last
letter, anticipated this; for it was scarcely to be supposed that
the Prince would accede to any negotiations tending to compel
hire to renounce his right to a country of nine-tenths of which
he-is in possession.
In the. accounts received from Bayonne this morning, it is
stated that Irun is again in possession of the Carlists. This
requires confirmation.
We have had accounts from New Zealand, which state that
his Majesty's President among the savages of .that island, J.
Bushby, Esq., had been duly received, and installed on the sth
MaY, on which occasion twenty-two chiefs assembled to hear
the letter of Lord Goderich read. While the letter was read
all the Europeans remained standing, with their hats off. After
the President had delivered an address, about fifteen chiefs
succession, with great animation and gesture. A
eianket and several pounds of tobacco were then delivered to
each chief, and the natives, to the number of full 600, had
divided .among them a quantity of beef, flour, potatoes, &c.
We have had accounts from Swan River to the 9th of June.
A Government notice had been issued, that unwarrantable ag-
gressions having of late been committed on the aborigines by
some evil-disposed persons of the white community, the settlersy
'were informed that offences against the natives were leg all
as criminal as if committed against any other of his Majesty's
subjects. We learn from the Perth Gazette of the Ist June the
lfollowing prices of different commodities there :—Fresh butter
s. per lb., salt ditto Is. 9d. per lb., bread, 41bs., Is. 4d., candles
. 9d. per lb., cheese (Sydney) 2s. per lb., coffee Is. per lb.
eggs 4s. per dozen, salt beef 9d. per lb., salt pork is., fresh
ditto Is. 64., kangaroo ls. 4d., bacon Is. Bd. per lb., milk Bd.
Per quart, fowls 3s. to 55., oil 10s. per gallon, rice 6d. per lb.,
ruin 12s per gallon, brandy 155. to 20s. per gallon, moist sugar
Gd• per lb., tea 55., potatoes 21d., Onions 9d., flour 31d per lb.,
aleb 25., porter ls. 6d. per quart, soap 9d. per lb., wheat 10s. per
bushel, beef, per barrel, £5, pork £7, working bullocks £2l to
130 each, cows £l5 to £25, sheep 30s. to 40e., pigs £3 to Z.

LONDON LATEST-SHIPPING NEWS.
Lloyd's, Pine o'clock, p.m., Saturday.
inßy accounts received here from Bearhaven,.dated the 9th
Otaet, we learn that the Orpheus, Glover, from Charleston to
4
'lverpool, having bean got off the
rock, proceeded on the 6th,
44 had put into Bantry Bay. •
,t,The stern of a ship's boat, with "Nancy, of Liverpool," on
sevi_laS been driven on shore on • the coast of Killybegs, with
w °rat pieces of wreck and it is feared that veisel has been
4",,elted. This intelligence has been received front Kiilybegs
,rr date the 10th instant.
fitiiteb Maria, from Liverpool to Limerick, is wrecked near
I,,Y.exs. The crew and cargo saved.
~,,tiebrew, Carr, and the Merchant, Lombard, have arrived
Liverpool at Batavia.
on tui! ua, Pietranero from Liverpool, arrived at Genoa
the pgian dth instant, after a'passage of thirty-six
clays; and on
after.. th" Emma, Parry, from the same port, arrived there,
pa.sage. of twenty-six days...
1,041".0 tliber
and thenia, Smith, has arrived at Singapore from Liver-
;l,llll4. Lion, Douglas, from Liverpool, has arrived at

ftt:liSandon, who is at present on a
.visit to his venerable
stitueot mends, we understand, to pay
expeet 3 in the beginning of January.
his rielsieventosbtloehliosredont.;
A ed to remain in Liverpool about a week.
vitio
arrived from
EXFEDITION.—The George Canning, which has
most recent ac-
eounta
...ram Fernando Po, has brought thet
and (44', the African expedition. At that da e, the Columbin e
havio °rra steamer had arrived at Fernando. Po the former
to aiif On board Mr. Laird, who was to return in the. Columbine
whieL Port. This gentleman had suffered much in his. health,
mano eAeprev©
him from prosecuting his discoveries
uipii the
the
Tschnerd_ile could have desired. Ile had` pr9.c.edecd
h h deseribes
as
memos ilAs 11. r as Fonda, tho country round. _
mr. ant and beautiful. 'ln coming down tlke river, he
went on board proceeding up in an open boat. M. Lander
proceed up d the iron steamboat Alburkah, determined, to
report of the Nun river as far as might be Kaclicable.
sor_haer
from that6°°l° °fthe
crew
lower ~, being having been shot, is untruef
part or%
we
feel
thee
occurred • the case, they met with every attention_ at the
expveerditi:Sniiice the last accounts, no deaths had
nOOOOiL 1., he ordinary degree of pride and pleasure. in that ever in our advertising columns the sailing of the first ship
thence left the- port of Liverpool for CHINA to bring
ifirsord„.
we lnist:kearg° of Ta, "or other Chinese produce." 121
enn
70;a3t ,
..e not, will speedily be followed by others. The Load.
brio itenla and he
ships can be beneficially employed in
Theg ng some of the Company's tea warehouses to Liverpool.
Y will soon be wanted here:

On Saturday last a public meeting of the merchants and
other inhabitants of Liverpool was held in the Sessions-house,
to take into consideration the propriety and best mode of testi-
fying their approbation of the conduct, ability, firmness, and
moderation displayed by Thomas Foster, Esq., the Town-
clerk, in the late laborious investigation before the municipal
commissioners. The meeting was called in consequence of a
requisition having been presented to the Mayor, numerously
and most respectably signed.
The business of the meeting was opened at two o'clock, by
which time the Court-house presented a numerous and highly
respectable assemblage of gentlemen.
'I he Worshipful the Mayor in the chair.
The Chairman stated that he held in his hand a requisition
from a large and respectable body of gentlemen, which had
been presented to him, requesting that he would convene a
public meeting for the purpose specified in the requisition,
which the clerk would read, and he felt much pleasure in com-
plying with the request.
Mr. Topham, who officiated for the Town-clerk, here read
the requisition, and the names of the gentlemen attached to it;
after which,
The Chairman revs, and said that, when he complied with
the wishes of the requisitionists, he entered so completely into
their sentiments relative to the admiration entertained for the
ability and zeal displayed by the Town-clerk in the late in-
quiry, that he need not say what pleasure it had given him to
second their purpose. He would say but few words himself;
but he wished it to he understood that the present meeting was
wholly unconnected with politics or party, and he hoped that,
as the municipal inquiry was at an end, that no gentleman,
whatever might be his opinions of the inquiry, as it had passed
over, would bring forward the subject there, but that all would
hear the speeches and endeavour to promote the views of the
gentlemen who had signed the requisition. (Applause.) It
was his wish that the gentlemen who addressed the meeting
should confine themselves solely to its object.
James Moss, Esq., rose and said that, in rising to propose the
first resolution, he begged leave to say that he did so with very
great satisfaction, for he was convinced that the object of the
meeting would not only accord with the views of the gentlemen
present, but with the approbation of the inhabitants of the town
of Liverpool generally,. (cheers,) as he was sure the ma-
jority cordially joined in lauding the merits of the. Town-clerk
for the ability he had displayed, and admitted that the best
thanks were due to him for the able, judicious, and temperate
manner in which he conducted the late investigation. Mr.
Moss concluded by moving a resolution to the • effect • that
the best thanks of the inhabitants of Liverpool were due to the
Town-clerk for the judicious and able manner in which he con-
ducted the late inquiry_as the public officer of the' corporation.
Mathew.Jamieson, Esq., said that the gentlemen present had
done him the honour of permitting_ him to second the resolution
just read, and in doing which he begged to abserve that lie •had
never undertaken a more gratifying duty. He thought that
there never was an occasion when a public officer was more de-
serving of public gratitude. He felt his own inefficiency to do
justice to the reselution, and was reminded of the saying of a
great lawyer, who had observed, that he was always more timid
in advocating a right and good cause than a had one, as the
claims of his client being just, he was afraid of injuring the
cause by anything ho might say ; but, when employed upon a
bad cause, he had no such fear. Such was his (Mr. Jamieson's)
situation at present. (Cheers.) No one could say but. the ut-
most praise was due to Mr. Foster for the great judgment and
the consummate ability he had evinced before the municipal
commissioners. Mr. Foster had not by any artifice defeated
the late inquiry, nor attempted dexterously to evade it; but he
had, he might say, laid open with great temper and talent
every particular relating to the affairs of the corporate body,
and for such ability and zeal the gratitude of the town was due
to him; and he congratulated him and the Corporation for the
manner in which the inquiry was entered into, and for its satis-
factory conclusion. He could not help thinking that there was
something exceedingly disheartening at the commencement of
the inquiry to Mr. Foster, as the public impression at the time
appeared to be, that the object of the Corporation, in con-
senting to the investigation, was to defeat the inquiry, and
that the whole proceedings were farcical, and merely set on foot
to give the semblance of justice to what had already been pre-
determined; and whilst such a sensation was abroad no one
would gainsay -that Mr. Foster had conducted himself with the
greatest moderation and talent. He hoped, now the inquiry had
terminated;that the absurd stories which had been circulated,
and which they had so long been accustomed to hear of the cor-
porate body, would now be at au end, and that by the acts of
the Corporation becoming now more publicly known, the re-
sult of the inquiry would be far different to the anticipations of
many, and would tend to a great public benefit. ( Hear.) It
had been his intention to have alluded to the nature and con-
stitution of the commission of inquiry, but he should refrain'
from doing so, in consequence of the prohibition of the chair-
man ; but he would just allude to one circumstance. The accus-
ers of the Corporation had been driven from everyposition they
had taken against that body, and they now took their stand upon
new grounds, and urged the necessity of a separation of the Dock
Estate from the Corporation. It was now alleged that the Dock
Estate should be under the controul of the merchants, as it was
their property, and they were best able to manage it. Now he
begged to state that there was a flaw in the argument, as the
Dock Estate did not belong to the merchants, but to the public;
it was the property of the bondholders, the widow, and the
minor, who depended upon it for subsistence. (llear, hear.)
The qualifications of the merchants of' Liverpool were excellent
and noble, but they were enterprising and speculating, conse-
quently the bondholder would say that they were not the most
fit administrators of the property. He was convinced that.the
present system would not be changed until one of two things
took place—either until the bondholders petitioned for a separa-
tion, or, until right and justice being at an end, a convulsion
would be the cause of such'change. In again adverting to the
subject for which he rose, Mr. Jamieson said that the stare he
took in the question of paying a tribute to the Town-clerk did
not depend altogether upon the public services he had rendered ;
but he felt, as well as many others in the meeting, a high pri-
vate regard for him, and he was convinced that the subscription
made to the tribute would fall far short of what his merits de-
served. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Foster, in his eloquent address on
the part of the Corporation, and in his conduct throughout the
inquiry; had, he was convinced, displayed talent which eminently
qualifieslshirn for a.shigheraiphere in his profession than he at
present moved in. (Applause.) Mr. Jamie Son concluded by
expressing the gratification he felt in seconding the resolution.
The Chairman now put the resolution to the meeting, which
was carried unanimously, (a dissentient hand not being held up
against it,) amidst loud acclamations.
Mr. Thomas Tobin briefly proposed the second resolution, to
the effect, that a subscription should be immediately entered into
for the purpose of affording the inhabitants of the town an op-
portunity of testifying their sense of Mr. Foster's exertions, by
presenting him with some public testimony of their approba-
tion. (Applause.)
• George Green, Esq. had great pleasure in seconding the
resolution of Mr. Tobin, but said that he felt considerable em-
barrassment in doing so, as those who had preceded him had
dwelt with much eloquence and eulogy on the gentleman, whose
talents and services had given rise to the present meeting, and
therefore it would be little more than a matter of form in his
attempting to do justice to Mr. Foster, by eulogizing his merits :
the newspapers had also very properly and candidly paid com-
plimentary tributes to the impartial and talented manner in
which Mr. Foster had conducted the affairs of the Corporation
in the late inquiry; even those opposed to him had ren-
dered this justice, consequently any eulogy that he (Mr. Green)
passed upon him would come with less effect, and would rather
take Mr. Foster's character from his enemies than his friends,
for if they spoke well of him there appeared no favour. (Hear,
hear.) He was happy to find that all those charges which had
been brought! against the Corporation had been so satisfac-
torily rebutted, and that the Corporation and Mr. Fos-
ter had come from the inquiry pure and unsullied. He
thought nothing • could be more gratifying to honourable
men who had: brought charges against the Corporation, than to
find all the allegations disproved, (hear,) and he wished he could
see those gentlemen present who had come so nobly forward
on the last day. It had been said, in reference to the Corpora-
tion, that the days of that body were numbered; that the por-
tentous hand-writing had appeared upon the wail, for they had
been weighed in the- balance and found wanting. He would
not say whether this prophecy was presumption or not, but he
hoped it was, as he was satisfied that no Corporation had ever
managed its affairs mere beneficially to the public. With re-
gard to the origin of Corporations he would say a few words:
If he read aright. the history of his country, these Corporations
had been organised with a view to protect the people from
tyrannical power, and to prevent the encroachment of great
and noble families; or, in fact, to repel at any time an unjust
exercise of the Kingly Prerogative,—(lowl cheers.) The Cor-
porations held these rights delegated to them by the ',people of
the nation for their good, and the time might come when they
would have occasion to exercise those rights again. (Hear.)
He was one wholly unconnected with the Corporation, and
called upon that body to exercise those rights, which were a part
and parcel of the law of the land, for the good of the commu-
nity. (Hear.) The Corporation held their rights by the peo-
ple ; they were the people, and the people would support the
Corporation, and nothing could touch the property of the Cor-
poration that did not touch the property of the people. Many
anticipated that the result of the late investigation would pro-
duce a change in the constitution of the Corporation ; he
thought that nothing of the sort would take place, as the result
chewed there was no necessity for a change. • (Hear.) The
Corporation, at a trifling sacrifice of their consistency, had
submitted to an illegal inquiry; but although • they • bad made
that sacrifice, they had dime, good, having come out of it ex-
onerated and perfectly free from those grievous charges which
had been alleged.againsa them. Not one of those allegations,.
he was happy to say-, had been substantiated. Mr. Green con.;
eluded by stating that there was not one throughout the whole
of the investigation more anxious to promote the inquiry, and
to further the interests of the .Corporation than the Town-
clerk, and the admissions of his enemies had proved it. He
had great satisfaction in seconding the resolution.
• • The clerk read the resolution, after which it was put to the
vote by the chairman, and carried amidst loud applause.

Air. Samuel Holme, in rising to propose the third resolution,
said that he should not in the course of his observations depart
from that rule which had very properly been laid down by the
Mayor, but confine himself to the object of the meeting. He
had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Fosterin his private character
as well as in his public capacity, and had long been aware of
the brilliant talent possessed by that gentleman—latent talent
he might call it, from the circumstance of its having been
brought rot ward and dig :toyed on the late occasion. In the re-
cent investigation Mr. oster. had " won golden opinion," for
he had ck,,`,—,ul with him the congratulations of men of every
shade of i;incical feeling. He (Mr. Holing) had had an op-
portunity of conversing very generally on The subject of the late
investigation with
.persons of various political creeds, and all
had agreed in admiring the talent, the openness, and the ability
altogether, that he had shown in defending the Corporation as
their advocate. Ile did not mean to say that it was not the
duty of every public servant to discharge the duties incumbent
on him to the hest of his ability, but on extraordinary occasions,
when extraordittaiy-exemplification of talent was exhibited in the
service of the town, especially by a fellow-townsman, he thought
there was a call for some proof of their regard. He thought,
that under such circumstances, public men should receive an
acknowledgment for public. services more than •what fell to .
them-in the mere line of business. (Hear.) If not, he would
ask, what meant the tributes that were frequently given to the
great and talented men of the day, the gold cup not long since
given to the Lord Chancellor, but as an acknowledgment for
their high talents? Propter alios vixit ought to be the motto of
every servant; but. when great talent was displayed he thought
public gratitude was called. for in the most substantial way.
Civic crowns were bestowed on the Romans, and statues erected
to them for extraordinary displays of abilitylana at the present
day they hid weekly tributes of gratitude imid to those who
brought the passenger .safely across the trackless ocean ; he
meant the captains of packet ships, and he thought that the in-
hlibitants of Liverpool, who were famed for their magnanimity
and public spirit, would not be backward in c.
and to
g f
testity, in a substantial manner, to the Ability of one who had
reflected such credit and honour on the ,•bwn at large. (Cheers.)
Mr. Holme then moved. that a commjitee be formed to carry
the resolutions adopted at the meetinA into effect, the committee
to consist of those gentlemen who bead signed the requisition,
with power to add to their number.,
Mr. M. D. Bold seconded the resolution, briefly observing
that he considered some testimony ought to be given to Mr

About the same time, Lieutenant Pickersgill was sent in the
armed brig Lion to examine the western parts of Batlin's Bay;
but the choice was unfortunate; he never once entered Baffin's
Bay; and Lieut. Young, who su,Trseded him, and proceeded
under similar instructions the following year, reached only the
72d degree of latitude, cruising along the eastern instead of
the western side of Baffin's Bay, and, consequently, among the
ice, which almost always clings to the shore.
The Hudson's Bay Company were again left free for many
years from the apprehensions of a discovery of a north-west
passage. Fortunately, however, for the world, it rarely hap-
pens that a generation passes away without producing men zea-
lous for their country's. weal, and the honour of science. Mr.
Dalrymple, hydrographer to the Admiralty, after carefully ex-
amining the question of the north-west passage, was decidedly
of opinion that the problem was still to be solved; and, conceiv-
ing with Mr. Douglas that "the governor and committee of the
Hudson's Bay Company had.made amends for the narrow pre-
judices of their predecessors, and that no further obstruction
would be thrown in the way of those who might be sent on dis-
covery," he prevailed ou them to employ Mr. Duncan, a master
in the navy, who had exhibited considerable talent on a voyage
to Nootka Sound, on this service. Mr. Dalrymple had lopg
been of opinion that not only Greenland, but all the land Mid
to have been seen by Baffin on the northern and eastern sides
of the great bay bearing his name, was composed" of ekusters
of islands, and that a passage through tlf&" Fretum Daris,'2 roand
the northern extremity of Cumberland Island, led directly into
the North Sea, from the 70 to the 71 of latitude.
Never was man more
_sanguine,. of success in any undertaking
than Mr. Duncan. In 1790 he went out in the company's ship
the Sea-horse, to take the command of a sloop in Hudson's
Bay, called the Churchill. He found, on his arrival, a crew
who affected to be terrified at the idea of going on discovery;
the Company's servants told.him the vessel was totally unfit for
such a purpose, and that she could not be made sea-worthy in
that country ;" though Mr. Duncan afterwards learned she was
constantly employed f0r.20 years subsequently. Seeing nothing
to be done there, he immediately returned to England, resolv-
ing to have no farther concern with the Hudson's Bay Com-
pany; but the governors, expressed so. much regret and disap-
pointment, and Mr. Dalrymple was so urgent for .following up
the discovery, that he consented to take the command of a well-
built ship of 81 tons, called the Beaver, fitted to his mind, and
stored for 18 months. He left the Thames on the 2d May, 1791,
but did not reach the height of Charles's Island, in 63 lat., till
the 2d August, nor Churchiil River till the sth September, when
all hope of accomplishing anything that year 'was at an end.
Mr; Duncan remained in Churchill River till the 15th July
in the following year, got into Chesterffield Inlet, and returned
to Churchill about the end of August, his crew having mutinied,
encouraged, as he states; by his first officer, who was a servant
of the company. Here grief and vexation so preyed on his
mind as to render a voyage, which promised every thing, com-
pletely abortive. 'thus terminated, for that period at least, the
last and leaSt efficient of all the expeditions (excepting that of
Gibbons) for the. discovery of the - north-west passage. --Aire
shall briefly state the results of the modern voyages in a sub-
sequent paper; and, if space will admit, the theories best enti-
tled to the notice of our readers, who will then have before
them, in one point of view, all that has ever taken place in
regard to the discovery of a north-west passage, from the
earliest attempts to the present day.

MR. FAITLIFULL'S NOSE.

COURT OP COMMON PLEAS, LONDON.

MARTIN v. SILLS.—This was an action brought by the
plaintiff, a lithographer, against the defendant, an artist, at
Brighton, to recover certain charges for lithographing a portrait
of the Radical M.P. for that place. It appeared that the de-
fendant had painted a likeness of Mr. Faith full, and, speculating
upon selling an immense number of lithographed copies to that
gentleman's admirers in Brighton, which may, for aught
know to the contrary, include the courtiers as well as the fish-
fags of that royal-radical place, employed the plaintiff to engrave
and strike off 150 copies, This was accordingly done, but,
somehow or other, the prints did not go off this, of course, could
only arise from the want of skill in the lithographer, who, it was
alleged, had failed in depicting the peculiarities of the original's
face, and that the likeness of Mr. Faithfull was not a faithful
one, more especially the honourable member's promontory, which
was considered more prominent and of larger dimensions than
either the picture or the original warranted, or ought of right to;.
belong to a king-and-parson-hating attorney, preacher, and
M.P. Hence the defendant refused to pay the plaintiff's de-
mand of £25 for engraving the stone, and £-/ a hundred fort,
striking off the prints; he paid him £l5 only, and contended o.'
that he was entitled to no more. These were the points of the
case :—lt being admitted by the defendant's witnesses that the,
engraving was satisfactorily executed in other respects, and
would be worth the sum charged were it not for that defect,
which, however, as it affected the likeness, reduced the value of
the work to a comparatively trilling sum. On the other hand,
the witnesses for the plaintiff declared it to be a well-executed
engraving in all respects, and an accurate copy. of the portrait.
They considered it of considerably higher value than the sum
charged by the plaintiff., There was also contradictory evidence
as to whether the defendant, when he called to see the engraving
at the plaintiff's, did or did not express approbation of the way
in which it had been executed. Even the defendant's witness
however, admitted that upon first looking at it, he said " It looks
very well on stone," although he curled his lip and looked dis-
satisfied. One of the plaintiff's witnesses said that he found the
dimensions of the nose accurate when he tried them with a pair
of compasses, but they appeared "a thought" too large to his
eye. The defendant's witnesses found the nose too large when
tried both by the compasses and the eve ; but the latter admit-
ted that some parts of the portrait itself, the arms for instance,
were not correctly drawn. It was deemed, however, by Mr.
Faithfull's friends, a good rkeness, whilst the prints were con-
sidered very indifferent likenesses of that gentleman. After an
investigation, which lasted to a late hour, the jury returned a
verdict for the plaintiff, damages £l7.
What will become of these prints we know not.
"Though 'tis very well known that the prejudice goes
Very strongly in favour of wearing a nose,
Still a nose should not be a snout."

Therefore, to publish to the world an unfaithful representation
of Mr. Fulthfull's proboscis—to describe it as enriched by ge-
nerous port—to insinuate that the honourable member keeps
good company, a thing of all others that Radicals hold in the
greatest possible abhorrence—would be, if not. libellous, at least
a breach of his parliamentary privilege. Should any attempts
be made to se//their member, we recommend the Rads of Royal
Brighton to petition for a parliamentary or King's commission
of inquiry into 'the subject. We abstain from any lengthened
'commentaries on this important affair, because there. is no one
thing on the face of a Radical M.P. that we are so little disposed
to meddle with as his nose, which, every body knows, is -but a
queer sort of thing to handle ; and because the case of Mr. Fadoe
Hunt versus " The True Sun" is fresh in our recollection. We
have no plrticular relish for farthing damages, so we shall dis-
miss the subject at once.