The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-07-09 00:00:00

July 9, 1844.

TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.

' On Wednesday the usual monthly meeting of the Coun.
til was held at the Town-hall.
FINANCE COMMITTEE.
Prom the proceedings of the Finance Committee it ap-
teared that the Town-clerk had received a communica-
tion from the solicitor of the venders relative to the delay
which hid taken place in the settlement of the purchase
of the \Vavertree-hall estate—that all parties were at pre-
sent in treaty for an amicable arrangement, and that it
3143 hoped the settlement would take place in a few days.
The Proceedings were confirmed.

The com WATCH COMMITTEE.
mittee reported that on the 25th ult, a para-
graph had appeared in the Morning Post, to the effect
that the late fire in Bancroft's warehouse, in Redcross-
ajr_et, was the work of an incendiary. The Head Con.
r •
bad reported that there was not the least ground
!eying the fire to have been the act of an incendiary,
A
I.t.n_dbe that reoort had been forwarded for insertion in the
t-or/461g Post.

DOCK COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of the Dock Committee, under the ex-
mtLng acts, having been read,
zur• Ba.A.NtLEY-MoottE moved their confirmation, and
reported t ,at the Liverpool Dock 8.11 had passed the
ttihitrd reading in the i-louse of Lords just as it went from
"uneil, with the exception of the leasin clause,
which was restricted to twenty-one years. Thisg was the
only alteration that had been made.
; AYO R. expressed his gratification at hearing the
.n.eLirgenee.

IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE.
being Pon the proceedings of the Improvement Committee
Mr.
Was ab flonxisy said it appeared that Parker-street
th out.to be widened, and that any new undertakings
e part of the committee were contrary to previous
thn:aunegeme't. particularly in the present state of the
b
es of the corporation. The widening of the street,
Pensgeh exceedingly desirable, would entail a heavy ex-
ri
mon, 4ReLAY said it was not to be done with any new
• • 3', but with money the expenditure of which was
"gniallv
Th. contemplated.
• Proceedings were confirmed.
aptraoMteinere.dn. COURTS OF LAW COMMITTEE.
AwrtENcE, in moving the confirmation of the
lagsL of this committee. took the opportunity of
g that, as he should be absent from Liverpool for a F.onsiderable time. and as it was essentially necessary tt.r
ruleaves
the members of the committee to attend and devote them-
Sll their arduous duties, he wished his place to be
some other gentleman. Mr. Barclay had given
Valuable advice, and greatly assisted the committee, and
he proposed that at the ensuing council Mr. Barclay be
elected a member. In the meantime, he (Mr. Lawrence)
begged leave to resign his seat on the committee.
Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE asked, with respect to the in-
ternal arrangements of the Law Courts, whether he un-
deistood the committee to express an opinion in their
proceedings that the courts were likely to be inconveni-
ently large, and whether they were proposing to remedy
thit defect by calling on the council to incur an additional
outlay ?
Mr. LLOYD said that Mr. Baron Parke and Mr. Baron
Alderson were consulted on the subject, and that the for-
xnei• had expressed an opinion that tie courts were too
large. In consequence of this the committee had asked
• Mr. Ehnes, the architect, to make a report upon the ne-
"Aary alterations, so that the council might have the
fullest information. Mr. Elmes thought it desirable to
erect some columns, from which curtains might be drop-
P_.* so that when the public took an interest in any trial,
the court was crowded, the curtains might be drawn
'c'd Ittinszas the case in some of the London courts. The
The psrlocceuelciindngost make any alteration in the roof.
were confirmed.

The proceedinLns ofte tihr COMMITTEE.
been read gEducation Committee having
,
Mr. MOLYNEDX moved their confirmation, and said
that at the next council it would be necessary to fill up
the Taeane
11r. Rap Y in the committee, occasioned by the death of
Mr. GLADSTONE said he wanted not to excite any un-
pleasant feelings by offering remarks on the subject of
edutatin yet he could not but express his regret that,
considering 1.„1:-.e important objects ot the schools, the reld-
ports of the tducation Committee to the council shou.
jube so limited in their details—so meagre and unsatisfae-
iriY. He Perfectly recollected that some time ago a rcesor--
fiur"ec was passed by the committee, and of erwardsr our;
Echothem bY the council, rendering it no longer
n7rtaheyre-
part of the committee to rspart to the counc
d,
s denominations of the children who attended the
ls sa
ruetstolutiO zaut he never understood by the adoption of that_
er o that the council were to be kept in a state
the
bene i fits they
gnorance as to the efficiency of the schools,. and
hoped the co • . .
were conferring on the community. He
early 0 were
might think it necessary to take an
which the
poorer PiPortunity of stating the advantages . e
48ses especial' were deriving from them ; for n
eontsidered that the council would not discharge their duty
Zisle he representatives of the people unless they saw that.u_
dicintjeY exPended in the support of the schools was j
receivsY ailed Properly expended, and that the community
mr.t a adequive return.
Soho ; • H. LAWRENCE, on the part of the
.South
He
we s, challenged any inquiry which could be instituted.
deal oafs Perfectly satisfied the schools were doing a great
"___, good.
if there was anything wrong in them, the._
atar7outtere would immediately come down to the council factoril • t; but so long as everything was going
"'did not
report t}h. n° report was needed. The comatittte coast, no e.oarries or creeds of the children—indeed they
the childrtecloiries of the kind. They knew not whether
andi
he thoushtt! were Roman Catholics or Protestantts;
the coo. • 't was a wise determination on the pa, o. both
ries. ituttee and council to abstain from all such. inqui-
comit No
surest way to prevent Itoinan Catholics Crum
Aar. N:s to ask such quest.ons. (Hear')
out what tti:,ll asked whether-Mr. Gladstone would point
bombers Jo- „%`!ertroittee could report? They reported the
11Poe which 4e'clance; and if there was anything else
objectton roation was required, there could be no
Mr. 1-100,80%rt it.
last a ,-
speaaer, aria Was inefficiency h --
slatildite agreed with the observation of the
hat if Mr. Gladstone thought there
what it cm •' e °sight to and examine, and see in
principles decided u
isisted. The go
conducted on the
theorn was
Pr,,ctedinPg°lil schools we, e
The conduct of
bY the council.
It matter satisfactory to those
v.as.
eadttended. He knew not whether Mr. Gladstone
cotiohr
.the committee to report the examination of parti-
al),
melees's ; but if he attended and saw ally deficiency,on
touch.mtnittee should feel obliged to him for information
g 104 a"Ything he discovered incorrect and not answer-.
Ing the .
.And ', purposes for which the schools were instituted.
lie 11 he was sat6fied with what he witnessed, he (Mr.
cii.daon) ,-• ~,, aciped that he would report the facttt,odtahye :(13i.tiir,i; Ordi -GUI everything was going on fromtuda:
de%free of ac-
ti„,,narY course of every school,
audhows'e under whom the
s•i's3' and diligence on the part
aulftotgether satisfactory to
:;nools were placed, that was
t ne would point out any-
'lle
that
If r. Gla s 0
..
fically do, they should
he g that the committee could spec'
A
.4 happy to adopt his wishes.
Mr. HORNBY observed that he was extremely averse to
•
. aying anything on a subject which had excited so much
atioleasant feeling; and
that he would nut advert to the
ie schools were conducted. lie
Principle on which t
agreed, however, with M r. Gladstone that it was most de-
sirable to have a report of the advantages of the system of
,„ed„eestion which was being pursued by the council. In.
red a rict account of
"erY tailor department they requi
tenor so reat im-
e'reri farthin exended ; and in a mat
ought
urtane •education of the poorer classes, they
to
hue ettas tie
eh re detailed account than that they ge-
nerally received, he wished for was an account of
what pro re ' were making, and what num-
ber were a the children e receivin
Mr. G u g education—
la • •H. LAwRENcE.—That you have.
thos•ss:. 111 oitNEY concluded by repeating that he had. made
erva.tions
education' without reference to the principle o
...t. dectded on by the council.
be 5. • CLADS by
said reference had been made to what
the first necessary in the drawing up of the report. In
bacioar:t Place! he considered that all classes of society
yiera,v equal right to the benefits derivable from the. cor-
to 1:10`rl expenditure ; and if this were the case, be wished
the
e 10,awrwhether, without distinction of religious creed,
lie new,orclasses were deriving benefit from the schooolt.
ttonecevsa nderstood, when the resolution reodelm,thie
ldrery arY to report the religious denomination of
ot the taw4B Passed, that the chairman, or any m mber
tee that
the
e,.‘
.ucation tr• •
...ozunitttee a as nut to rise nu state
cothincnoren
were
to the different religious denominations !stela ,"
. Sthools But th council had never heard
.itgare Al the sUb' • • and beyond the mere matter of.
Si to t. _
iJect ,
beards'a ,• h
attendance, he bad never
Thelngle _ lumbers in
to. Surely
re Nos. ,s_ circumstance worth listening
naalcio t
who were
ti h. g fir at
some. children in attendance
R
tiil:---that t Proficiency than others. He w .
as certain
,te.‘, e fornie.."! d.tails of the education proceedings un-
to'. Mho part'i intent were extreme.y ful , I l and that they
number of
,‘_Ys sorts_ pulars of all kinds ; and when a
().
'trice 44;701! others, there was generally some sort
.ht
coe, 4"it tilero• But now the council were quite. i act; 41c1 he deYt really new nothing of what was going
eeisio`ated witheti all member to rise and say
.that he was
o `h: frok wee Ole advantages the community were re- 111, was schools, and that the money expended
to b "Akar, seed judicio ly laid out.
them. e $
eee b 'act the us
-of the schools were
Te. Yes e advantages
.s e
co • ..aere
watery ;
,odividual who chose to frequent
reriod9bcil was
re 4° ucult about it ; every member of
be teal exani• 91:tested t Y
and and there were
• If- lie inatioja. ogo visit;
shOuld saw
anYthin*. He frequently walked in him-
Waft ne iratilediatel on
g "hich he conceived to be w_r
he
slop , ver es there vhs
• Ing it before the council.; but h
„Anted • that he highly gratified and
PleciPle •If mi Indeed „s was not. ,
at the
NMI% p - oil which , air. Gladstone was aiming . _
this, arlcer) rather the education was conducted, which he
by the • Tile co . thought he was, that was another
cora .eotsoci tolnittee carried out the principle adopted
strap
ittee '
it„to the very letter; and the conduct of the
(teed: for AZ. done thern credit. (Hear.) It was very
was it IS on ifir Gladstone to get up and oppose the pro-
-1 'Poe -1, ° ground
4strueti al le to that the reports were vague. How
prioeipi ho of the
rnalce any other reports, seeing that the
eaajoeit e Wes pro! council were being carried out, that te
Prieci„,Y of the e (tY Well settled, and that, SO long as the
tir Pr would ptlacil was constituted as at present, that
/13 nt, be (pfd :heyniaint.ained. If Mr. Gladstone wouldusge.
that l‘trit 145444' Pa rkZecsitfiuc
icdh;i)trge agaitnstsuthepumrtahim.
Was wire eporitartN. while uagreeeinhgapsvpiyth °M
Mr. Gladstone
airless
make. ioely :I. were meagre candidly admitted that it
oil: said
is
oltitclilt to make them otherwise. The bu-
, it rp,",t forss„,„rd.ioary schools of this kind could not
In the pz.",,•'`erestie"4 OI a report in such a manner as to
aPPoitro-eeetlng t ; atid the fullness of.detail observable
with 4 eet of so of former committees arose out of the
r. Glad6r2erle of the boys as monitors. He agreed
"•••ee as to the right of all parties to receive