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April 8, 1845.

iln the resolution which I have the honour to submit to
°ttljadoption and support. Enough has been advanced,
lur
k, to prove that, according to the terms of my reso-
it • °°. on whatever grounds the endowment is proposed,
Is unjustifiable in principle • it remains that I should
1138%.,"aptbing on the last clause,. which affirms, that there
o evidence of any national compact or argeement for
entnanything, g continuance." In the absence of anything like argu-
i.a.entr anything, indeed, beyond mere vague and unsus-
ot
Ilheed assertions in its fa, (and Sl has to
fn able to producevour anything elsir Rober
is,t P
lee think,
flet, etnthsive against any national compact or agreement, the
at in the appendix No. 69, of this report, there I,s
Tyco a list of all the grants voted by
parliament toMy -
rooth since its establishment, from the year after its in-
rPoration, 1796, to the year 1813, different sums vary-
1441frnto £4,000 to 12,000 are acknowledged, after
lj-siu' the amount has been fixed at £9673. In this
e there is no allusion whatever to the existence or
there is
of any compact, and the absence of any
rri7 Bticb allusions in such a document must be
nsidered fatal to the claim. The evidence of Dr. Crot-
ty' President of Maynooth, and which issued in the list of
grants printed in the appendix now quoted, is even
ircoger stiil against the existence of any agreement. At
,feghat 53 of the report he is asked,—
is the amount of the annual parliamentary
iLal as varied in different years since. 1813 it has been
t° 12 018'.8 it was .€12,5,,0 ; and again, was that. (the increase
tQO in the year IEOB, on account of any.particu,larnseunmeeboei
otZleired for building ? I believe it was in con_eq
the ange of ministry at that time. . . I believe it was folr
do Parpose of building that the additional sum was granted.tsme
soinziet know whether they intended to keep it up to lie same
y afterwards : but when lie. Percival was applied to ind the
..e?' following instead of granting them the sum that h,a been
8i anted the e;zr b fore, he lowered it to what it had been.
; this Yevidenece speak' for itself. All I infer from it
'B, that
littei bad there been any evidence of contract it is not
espeeiallthat Dr Crotty would have omitted to notice it,
Y when that 'point of his examination absolutely
th"nded of him to put it forward. If appeal be made. to
act of -Union it is also in vain. That it was not in-
'4?ed in the 7th article of that treaty is plain from the
that°f six Years being specified anterior to the passing of
11„,, Measure as the period from which the average was. to
is• Laken
QY hp T of sums granted by the Irish and to be continued
triaitery.M, per.ial
.Parliame_nt. . Amongst other things for
and ri,',utlng institutions for pious and charitable purposes,
the irs„ observe, only for a period of twenty years after
Pre te °KM. This' article is plainly fatal both ways to the
lea „,.nee of a compact in favour of Maynooth.. In the ab-
oph,"hof any tangible argument in its behalf, it would be
f
qr
ttling with a shadow to dwell longer on this part of
and ; so that I may consider my case made.n out,ni
telidaithout another word might leave the question in your
hie' vvithout fear as to the result of your verdict.
.AI
eop-,,gu MY ease is closed, yet there are one or two points
jost•ireeted with the priesthood of Maynooth such as to
my trespassing further on your patience, for a eon-
ng moment, while I advert briefly to them. In a very
rioli°l:tan.t.letter from the late Dr. Doyle, the ablest cham-
pi-ess u,r Irish Romanism that the present century, hads.w:te
we are informed that on the subject of the divine
suet of kings " the high doctrines of Bellarmine and Bos-
04e* on that 'subject have yielded before the more popular
aighs,.°l Locke and Paley. • This is passing strange atfirst
pe •rI
that principles for which everything hadbeen
Lanae and lost in France, should be abandoned in re-
asiti'under circumstances that would have enhanced
.their
veers of In the eye of the English government, and doctrines
°Pnosite character adopted and inculcated. The
I),e Mind of my learned friend Dr. M. O'Sullivan in his
'igest of Evidence on the State of Ireland" has un-
rethei!ed and explained the mystery. So long as there
ti,e-sitied alive ap member of the house of Stuart, so long
of s that doctrine taught which seduced the affections
the
fa • Irish priesthood and people from the reigningitiitte
slay •
in England; for Mr. O'Connell has. even
cow', in his evidence, that the ultra-royalism of e
hip:toental priests was in favor of the exiled family. ;
Iva; !hen that family became extinct, the principlethe _
p'andoued, that must then have entwined itself around
Of vacailY of our beloved Victoria (whom God preserve)
kr.`tfeelings of the present race of priests in Ireland
th i."Yse thus writes in his history of the Roman Ca-
-4'1,71 Association :
~n'oth beclergy, clergy too, sent in their adhesion from time to time. May-
-Le np;-egan to'he felt Irishmen who had never left Ireland,. were
taise,yests whom it s • t forth A re at many of the clergy still re-
the 4•., their former feeanrs,and.weregtoo much affected by a sense of
~Nse7,„...en,ies of their order • but the new class of the clergy were
"otia, • '11,37 stepped out beyond the modesty of theirliabitual func-
-14,4 Into the activity of public life. The priesthood no longer re-
Dositi,usu-oPeration —they joined every meeting—secondd every pro •
the 4lent their aid to every object, they became interested in
to
rthu,tl4ll7 levies—grew champions in the cause of the Assoc a-
%te were the principas al channels by which its influence was
ncated."
hirtltestimony as to the character of the Mavnooth priest
tnaared with the continental priest, is also confirmed
ie reluctant admissions of the late Mr. Inglis, in his
ag,,°eurileY through Ireland in 1834." Hear Dr. Doyle
11,eh In the letter already referred to, addressed to Mr.
p
lioe:he ministe of England (he says) cannot look to the exer-
erfhe Catholic priesthood;" and again,
0111riluel.ng from Carrickfergus to Cape Clear, no sentence of x-
" If a rebellione
Now, ilication would ever be fulminated by a Catholic prelate."
eVid sir I have done. You will observe that the only
epeepar I have submitted to you is, that of friends or
teten!ans, else of Romish bishops and professors : all in-
/ hoLed
concealing the deformities of the system.
ahead taken low grounds throughout. But as I have
arilioV. observed, they are the only grounds. on
the ex• is attempted to vindicate the continuance of
it; aislasting grant, much less the propriety of augmenting
ktie-,,••" they are the grounds alike suggested by my reso-
Itiae- and Prescribed to me by the respected committee
heej Whose management this magnificent meeting has
the slilt,,ranged• But even upon these grounds, and upon
other) idlag of Romish witnesses, (and I have quoted no
about am told to ask your assent to the resolution lam
iii• 43 trl"e• Th. real grounds on which we drecate
tepeatee!sure, have already been touched upon, and will be
Wilese bY the succeeding speakers. There is one. to
the hi "ngenial mind I hand over the task of illustrating
the gh demandof Ch •t. • •
tend ris an principle in connexion with
-that b .erness of Christian love. These are the grounds
this ring us together in the face of the obloquy that
the
toProceedin will entail uon us, our esire for
-04 r 1118 of our Roman Catholic fellow-subjd ects, and
Ptiaile°ve for that Truth in whose liberty we are
State„,!ed to rejoice ourselves. Oh sir, that we had
*ere."'" in power, who knew the truth and loved it, and
Boit, Men
ashamed to confess it, nor afraid to defend
„;',",e,n that would reply to the whispers of expediency,
~matt
powerfully or how plausibly recommended,
err
not careful to answer thee in this matter. The soul
'rage true Christian would not quail though the world was. con-
-1,:y42(t is,s`t and arrayed against him his Bible is his guide, his
,nich.-is trust, and onward he goes ; he knows no fear but that
clief-23 the beginning of wisdom ; his heart is fixed trusting in
(Vt 4.4."
had shat England had never forsaken her first love, then
honors still lain sheltered in the protection of Him, that
'ltr,o ?those that honor Him. Then her peace had been
01, trfivefrt and her righteousness as the waves of the sea.
is alk!' she would even yet remember from whence she
t'is re.") and repent, and do her first works : then, " for
th,„-rleY endureth for ever " is anything too hard
nee, ?r,
she might 'even yet emulate the blessed-
iescribed by the Psalmist—"g Happy is that people
'ad is Li° such a case yea, happy is that people whose
te4tjeona -7 Lord." At the conclusion of the reverend
„ttlectir, •fratt, s eloquent address, the enthusiasm of the
`u,esrio' ''displayed itself in a long protracted burst of
uses°, Ipt7, offs BERRY HORSFALL ESQ., in seconding the
i'nre 434 said, sir, after the very powerful and eloquent
dace We •' af f iend very briefly
It 'Set five just near rom our r
_tom, ell content myself with briefly, and very briefly
-utetrthisZ th. e resolution. But, sir, I feel that the object
:4of eting is one deeply affecting the christian charac-
-413, % country, and as such, I cannot be content
0411 ht°,,,,aay that I second the resolution. lam quite
,--• there is seldom any instance of an individual
rele,vorward to oppose any measure with regard to
to t6bLut he is immediately charged with being inimi-
;tlstoremo‘fooentry. (Hear.) Now, on behalf of the ori-
i,Ptiai,tt this meeting, as well as on my own behalf, I
p!tPutiactly such charge ; for, acting upon the scrip-
t, , Llon of endeavouring to do good unto all
thst f_°Pe we are at all times prepared to extend any
„crests'
do to our Irish Roman Catholic fellow
„sPeak (Chas) The question is, what is good? and ..11 not•
spr, with regard to the opinion entertained by
Odd at" °Pon this platform, who it is well known
the and
eerie Prescribe as the greatest good for Ireland,
tr;rneeeTritural education, but I speak with regard to
'Of Which of the House of Commons. I refer to
'arlia4l are annually made by the Commons House
(+lent for the benefit of Ireland, and Is say, let
m0m5,101,7
der gooey measure for which they propose, which we
g • cOra for Ireland, and it will at all times have
ahladi sunport. I hold in my hand a list of the
•t...40,age m May last for the benefit of Ireland, viz
for the Foundling Hospital, Dubin.
~t1,00f,9,f0r the House of Industry, Dublin.
~4e2,400 !or the Female Orphan House, Dublin.
iel,ooo or the Westmorland Lock Hospital, Dublin.
~4e1,60, Tr the Lying-in Hospital, Dublin.
tat'3,oo,, 'or the Stephens's Hospital, Dublin.
let° ; for the Fever Hospital, Cork-street, Dublin.
700 ior the Hospital for Incurables, Dublin.
ttst.eet.63o°rf the Commissioners of Charitable Bequests, Ireland.
t, :tit disaeor. the nonconforming, secndiug, and other Pro-
-7,340 fontulg Ministers, Ireland.
r charitable allowances, Ireland.
e 4 , 097 f (7_ colltity surveys, Ireland,
40ro liaiLlsoanlari es and expenses for the improvement of
3oop. the Royal Irish Academy.
1.4,40°1 the Royal Hibernian Academy.
4V2400•,05r. the Royal Dublin Socie y.
(4; list alt conservatories conservatories at Botanic Garden, Dublin."
thei4l%,lle p‘°,gether amounts to upwards of £llB,OOO.
11tiairt°2ieeate-vi. So far as I know of these charities, and
4lve A,300 am prepared to say " instad of XllB,OOO
tree*hi 4 gra ,000 if you choose," but, do note call upon us went even of £20,000 or £30,000, for a purpose
!)1 as to be even
is not good for Ireland ; do not call
Iltae,,aYrinntisuPPort a grant to the Roman Catholic College
*hraatlce of (Hear, hear and cheers.) If we were in
to e,,`,,e hi;„"_th,e instru'etion; given at that college, I think
loieg'lghte ve heard from Mr Nolan, would be sufficent
livatketzthing nofutsiallpo. n that subject. Mr. Ewban. k told
. us
lolls •am e instructions given at the University of
ibihktiven .n.r. Nolan told us something of the instrue-
4-elihe;ityrtvi. aYnooth. Ile has given us some extracts
!hit! ut u Instructions there given, as regards the re-
ergeets whl etween man and man ; he has given us some
th,hetweecnn shevv the relative duties which are taught
- chain and his S(
ig But there was one link
14'°11:hefrobi`tdheefieient: (Heaer.n) He did not. give us ex-
kke twee,, doctrines taught there, chewing the rela-
,,t3t Mhe' (HZ,nlan and his God, between man and his
TiptleftCeelals-bZik. !..hold in my ha, nd an extract from one
to Rh M
tlta the e
ttaple af aynooth, not given to the world
tit tgou...uthority, but given in evidence
aillt) or Mr, 14„,0t Lords, about the period of the report
late°oe*, u„'an has referred. It has reference to the
Its viut ,„,14c church, and with the permission of
Itiajlows.__lll read it. (Cries of " read, read.") It
14 the. itte
redness of the obligation to obey the Church,