The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1844-09-03 00:00:00

Si pt 3,1844.

TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

On Weinesday last a sper.ial meeting of the Town
Council was held, for the purpose of taking into consi-
deration the proceedings of the Dock Committee for
docks and works. There was a very full attendance of
members, and the Mayor took the chair.

HUSKISSON'S STATUE.
The MAYOR before the immediate business, submitted
a letter from Mr. Sandbach, respecting this piece of sta-
tuary, by Mr. Gibson. It was to the effect that the statue
had arrived three weeks ago, presented to the corporation,
Mrs. Huskisson, who wished it to be placed under the
dome in the Lon room, a site which the artist did not
consider the most eligible, the light not being appropriate ;
',and the writer suggested that another position in the
l'uilding, selected by Mu. Gibson, should be proposed by
Memorial to the Lords of the Treasury, whose leave, it
9trears, is necessary.
Mr. North dMr a
s i St. Geor the
Mayor an more suitable, and AitP wasnall finaconsidered ally resolved that the
Mayor should wrhe to Mrs. Huskisson, acknowledging
the receipt of the statue, suggesting to her the most ap-
proved site,*and making an early report to the council on
the subject.
THE NEW NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN DOCKS.
The proceedings of the Dock Committee relative tone
Plans of the new docks and works, north and south, au-
thtised by the act of this session, having been read,
BnemeeY-MOORS rose and said that, in asking
the council to confirm these proceedings, it would be ne-
°es.
--arY to trespass on their attention for a few moments,
With the view of showing the difference between the plans
originally brought before them and the houses of parlia-
ment, and the plans now recommended to be adopted hi
their stead. The original plans, so far as be was mdi.
IliduallY concerned, never had his approbation. But the
Pons Ire now submitted, and the general principle of which.
he cordially approved, had the advantage of affording in-
creasing water space, while the docks would only occupy
pat.inedsain;eitisnpagce of ground as was contemplated in the ori-
•Por the new plans they were indebted to the genius
efforts of the Dock Surveyor, whose atten-
erenrea,un devotedness to the interests of the dock estate
but two well known to render it necessary to say more ;
hit Was to him th were indebted for the excellent
ens' One great improvement in which had been made at
hsuggestion of his friend on his left, Mr. Aikin. It
g t be necessary just to state what the original and the
i'reteent 'items gave to the public in the shape of accommo-
dation, The grand total afforded by the original scheme,
Which was to run parallel with the river, amounted to 34
acres only ; the new scheme, including the baein, the
coasting dock, and the passages, presented noless a quan-
tity than 63 acres. This scheme occupied the same space
of ground as the former,erritshoe plan
nt
otfh
hrilcohr northern ducks,remained
coupled with the southern,
the present as it had come before the council and received
eisfeodr
their sanction, would make a grand total
of dock accom-
modation for the town of 195 acres 3731 yards, a quay
apace—an actual working quay space of rather more than
13 miles, and a grand total ale gether of 15 miles 784
yards. This was an amount of accommodation not to be
found in any other town in the world, far exceeding that
of the metropolis. (Hear.) The original plans ran north
and south ; those now proposed ran east and west ; and
'instead of having one inconvenient dock, as at first re-
commended, which must be fully completed before and
-Part of it could be rendered available, they should now
have a series of docks, several acres each in extent, and
*hey should besides have the communication opened with
the Leeds and Liverpool Canal. The advantages were so
rtel_a_fsta:hrrearent that he should not occupy the time of the
that in dwelling on the subject. He had already said
plan of the new works at the north remained as it
Tiraocethat there was no change in that; but, before he
nees4eded further, he would endeavour to answer some
bate „"„rls
hetwhih might be asked in the course of the de-
Thee-,s,"° authority of the council to alter the plans.
iere at liberty, without going to parliament, to vary
the docks
in any manner or shape. They might make
please,rs oblong or square, or in any other manner they
in ge,:'") so long as they trenched not on private interests
beee-ring over new space ; and here it was to be remem-
as that they were only about to occupy the same ground
tionwsas originally intended, and that the proposed altera-
and el,vc'oid not affect the communication with the Leeds
they Were
Canal. He knew it had been observed that
greaJtwae_re going on too great a scale, and affordiog.too
o extent of accommodation to the town. But, so
the'rorn this bring the case, he was satisfied that, before
_oc new works should have been completed; every dock
;told be fully in use. (Hear.) He thought the council
ought to be under no alarm on this point. Hitherto it had
Luen the reproach of the council, the dock committee, and
e old corporation, that the supply of dock space was al-
-17,,a).18 in arrear of the demands of trade. This was so pal-
i;"-itY the fact that it was unnecessary to say more about
; a
vorkn.d if
any one would take the trouble to examine the
rule, lug of the docks for the last few years, they would be
of en convinced that this was the fact, and that the increase
or :I'nage for the last year required the accommodation
nee her Prince's Dock, for that increase amounted to
sbl'"'°° tons, while the working of the Prince's was only
leelt ?00,000 tuns. He therefore hoped that the reproach
co
be done away with, and that they were on such a
co as would wholly supersede the necessity of dock ac-
e, clrnodatron to be sought elsewhere. (Hear.) There
thaes, another advantage in the new plans, and that was,
wee' the one dock, proposed to be made by the original
we", could not be brought into action until the whole
in e°4lPle•ed, while those now proposed, besides afford-
hefg,,ao much additional accommodation, could be brought
aedeolieration ie a very short space of time. They were
r,on•ract to have the communication with the Leeds
they fierPool canal open in three years. He thought
Nveell'',nuld accomplish it in two ; one of the new docks
and te De brought into operation about the same period;
eeehT advantage attending the works would be this, that
Ar°°ck would be completed in itself, and that, as they
,re„s_ ,
oree,q, sad, every dock would be perfect, and could be
arotiet"ditot
eln_to‘ working condition. without any obstacle or
ee'laritae_ut herng In the way. This would b.e a very great
VeZer t'hr• as it would render the dock. s.available so much
tefel,bere,LwaB anticipated. The original plan could not
eore; aceerpght into operation in less than five years,
The huiese lug to the new, they should have the dock
acw d0,,,,A with the canal in operation in two years.
se°„' ff, ei` would, moreover, be the only docks that
C ,-„aeCOIDMOdatiOD to the class of a pre-
' ; of construction as they would haver gates
P°B;tto n `vi'lth• The of the council' would not then be in the
be,: ei eoui , People of Bristol, who, after having got a
'eyed, ti not get her out again—(a laugh)—"md, he
would h,iye lte owners of that vessel (the Great Britain)
port
A )uld sohebring her to Liverpool, because in no other
be ti'her great "aereceive the necessary accommodation.
had been
they wo.raeteee attending the new docks would
plied"toe
Otit uee" "ser "Id be liable to silt up. (Hear.) It
red that the Dock Committee were laying
us sum of money, and they were often rip-
-thing he look
tno°l"srnta°
'thing he
a recaetheir hands, and not to spend their money
_ss manner. He confessed there was no-
n th eedpurePsoennewii
eiture • with
tsar). littlec e f
cconcernit l
really
st
washe
nothingex p n
all. They were about totohtain accommodation for the
x, z)nrt of 63 acres at
Trade of the port to the e
and 15 acres at the south
comone million and a half of
aerLdc with other places.
money. This wag nothing the north,
'Let them look for a moment at
docks, which
cost four millions of money, and let London
rtrast the ex-
oltlions in
001.
tent of accommodation obtained for that Zun London with what was going to be given in
They were about to give more than double the amoerP
aria
afforded in London for less than a million
_e!l. a half, because this increased accommodation would'
F:pcome within the estimates laid before parliament.
IPHear, hear.) The London docks, which cost four 'nil.
i.4siderapers
8, only afforded accommodation to the extent of thirty-
, and the St. Katherine's docks, which were con-
an,
on. model docks for the kingdom, cost £2,482,000,
eermes afforded. accommodation to the extent of twelve
en Liverpool there were about to be given up-
vtatia34-8," seventy acres for less than a million and a half;
ugribent, they looked at the amount of tonnage going
hro
inne_dornekos. of Liverpool. and London, the matter
atPePeared
n pest
eat; more striking point of view. For, during
Were seep • nearly four times the amount of tonnage
410)1,4 elnnodated in Liverpool more than were accom-
lt hadeb° in the entire docks of London. (Hear, hear.)
eree een the f
the ed , sshion to say a great deal about the im-
hj naieh"trtng of the Liverpool Docks. He admitted
ntitlatne ti be very much improved in this respect, but, at
,hree, eeheu'le, justice ought to be done the Dock Com-
anvil thee
‘'ad not ben met as they might have been,
and :4 frirr-e°u4ht to facilitate their working. They had
tivernt,4 extension of the hours of landing-waiters,
Albee; Woulifeut had refused the application on grounds
curilt Doek not long exist, so far as they applied to the
Warm? to tih,s' because one of the grounds was, the ffoe-
tl,revenue on account of the distance of the
oft Albert dorn the docks, and this would not apply to
told tpage wlT','• But when they compared the quantity
riot 8 °ntion, Passed tte-ousili the docks of Liverpool
arid °,bad a, would be seen that the working here
.was
ponfa,oalf of t74...8 generally represented, for two millions
doelcstast year tons
liaised through the docks of Liver-
faetethe
toe odatZfi Loudon" not quite 700,000 tons through the
fan °°t et ear.) Steamers would be accom-
w4 'erne north, and the other docks would
tre4ubjeet :be general trade of the port ; but, in
-1;°, adeaest° further" 8° well understood that he should
'en said eaaes eri's.exceet briefly, to allude to the cost
garit they Were ;fig from the new plans. As it had
laguitude re' not oniay.ing out money in a most
in the
attenti f their Y in the purchase of land, but in the
other to thecconntemplated works, he would just
a!rre, exerr'_. The w'e
,st of the Prince's, and some of the
4%0e% e2a've of the of the Prince's cost £32,046 per
onle "r acre /ere land d inclusiveof the land,
hl'4oo le ow , air
I'4oo per the proposed north works would
the Per ae
cost
of re.) whiaere,
fie. the Prince's (the
,parliamentary plan was
Ment bY ever-iosn'ea t
They were was considerably less than hal'
dockb that was so much admired,
the eseof the e
doeklyn e one of the greatest orna-
te/le-es' 'Hilo, eqUal
to the Prince'
s,
therefore, to afford
rince s, on a larger scale,
:xfi_rri-os'nt37ootnhisf%e°,lSt ;_,ans
it was necessary to draw at-
tire
meet. show that the expenditure
the nub `ravaeant the Part of
as Was general, Dock Committee was not st,
Y supposed and propagated to
Ir t32"46 t stood 12
b nnee's. (Hear, hear.)
or the p • , 548 for the new qtreks. against
witt
wiwaterloo, and Cl fire Victoria,
t ctthobsaett enaxme awoc
ut !wry,
t(d7o(ku)sn-.
lee cos • abouto b
the Price
twXO
1231
deer v
ber e
affordedreaeee enaneneefdoed
rdotbhceakeinsfproro,ed accom-
d out and he would offer. no observations. There
of business.
c'ela %voter P°int• It was said that the ut lay of thenew
he reti.—"'' the c dantrabe little on account of their distance
very
_,edthat
. the But it should be remem-
West •
three )t the Ezell India Docks in London
T 1,4 d half. ange ; that the East.were three
of the:Pere no s, and.that the public
neverindia Docks
were
three 'orther such distances here. T complained.
onl
nrnost dock would e'
he extreme point
y abut half
from the Ex h not be quite a mile and
half the c ange, and, therefore, it was
distance of the East India' Docks