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necessary for the Government to be on its guard. This
state of things was not the doing of the Government—all
that tht Government had to do was to resist its conse-
quences, and to take care of the property of individuals,
and to be prepared for the worst that might happen. The
way to be prepared was by taking care not to have in the
service of Government a number of magistrates who had
themselves presided over such meetings. As to sympathy
with those meetings, he did not know whether the sym-
pathisers were thousands more or thousands less; but
this he knew, that he felt himself more secure in not
having to employ men who had themselves been instru-
mental in raising them to their present dangerous height,
and therefore be was of opinion that the Lord Chancellor
of Ireland had done perfectly right. He regretted to hear
that there were 2,000,000 of the people of Ireland in a state
of great poverty, but there was great poverty in England
also ; and, at all events, be was at a loss to conceive how
that poverty was to be relieved by the agitation which now
prevailed in that country.
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The Earl of CLANCARTY regretted that government had
done nothing to check the agitation in 'lreland except the
doubtful act of dismissing the magistrates. It would be
more economical if the government were to grant aids for
public works and the development of the resources of the
country, instead of sending over troops to do nothing.
They should not attempt, however, to tranquilize Ireland
by sacrificing the revenues of the Established Church and
depreciating the landlords, in order to flatter the Roman
Catholic priests by affecting to look upon them as conser-
vators of the public peace.
Earl FORTESCUE condemned the removal of so many
respectable men, in whom the people had intimate confi-
dence, from the magistracy.
The Earl of GLENGALL regretted that the letters had
been written by the Lord Chancellor, but he approved of
the dismissal of the magistrates. He thought that the
office of Lord Lieutenant ought to be filled by an Irish-
man, for, hitherto it had been usually filled by an English-
men, who went over full of prejudice towards, while ig-
norant of everything relating to the country, and just as
t'iey began to open their eyes to their enormous blunders
and errors they were recalled and replaced by another
Englishman, who had to run precisely the same career.
There appeared also to be a free trade in lord chancellors
for they were almost always imported from England until
lately, when the people of Ireland had to congratulate
themselves on the appearance amongst them of a Scotch
chancellor—(a laugh).
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The Earl of Wicxtow did not regret the dismissal of
the magistrates, but he did regret the unconstitutional
mode in which it had taken place. The grounds upon
which the Lord Chancellor of Ireland acted were utterly
untenable; but, although he believed them to be uncon-
stitutional, yet he would not support the motion, believ-
ing it to be a censu:e on the Government, and believing
the maintenance of the present Government in office to
be for the benefit of the nation.

Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that government had deter-
mined upon taking the line of forbearance, and though
some noble lords advised a different course time alone
could tell which was right. He must, however, say, in
justice to the policy of the government, that they had no
case upon which to come down to parliament to ask for
increased powers. It was not without much consideration
of the measures recommended that they had come to the
determination of not striking the first blow, the result of
which must be an effusion of blood and much subsequent
suffering. They stood prepared, however, and if the oc-
casion arose would do their duty if other parties broke the
law. They would not, he repeated, be the first to strike a
blow, and this was in every way prudent. They were
charged with doing nothing by two noble lords whose
speeches would justify a vote either for or against the mo-
tion, but there was a homely maxim, which was also for-
cible, "They should not bark before they could bite."
They should be sure of success : they should be sure of
their power to hold before they ventured on a policy so
decisive as that which had been suggested. Before he sat
down he felt bound to say that parliament and the country
were indebted to the Protestants of Ireland for the course
they had pursued in the present emergency. He believed
it was owing to their good sense and good conduct that the
whole of Ireland was not in a flame.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he could not have
supported any motion which asserted the legality of the
meetings for repeal of the union, but, as the motion be-
fore their lordships was confined to censuring the absurd
and unconstitutional proceeding which had been adopted
by the Lord Chancellor of Ireland, he entirely approved
of it. The government, before taking such a step, should
have come to parliament with a deliberate message from
the crown, giving a distinct warning of the consequences
to all who should engage in the repeal agitation, instead
of proceeding, as the Irish Chancellor had done, upon a
mere conversation which had taken place in either house
of parliament. He was glad, however, that government
was determined to exhaust all the powers of the law be-
fore they applied for coercive measures. If they brought
down measures for the benefit of that unhappy country,
they would be entitled to the aid and support of men of
all parties.
Lord BROUGHAM could not support the motion. He
said the financial portion of the agitation was well worthy
of attention, for it was difficult to know or surmise what
became of the enormous sums of money collected. It
might be all expended in advertisements, agency, &c., or
in paying off the debts of the " body," though debts it
had none ; but no account was given of the mode in which
these sums were expended, and little confidence could be
placed in magistrates who became parties to an agitation
of which this formed so suspicious a characteristic. The
noble lord expressed his sympathy for the present position
of the orangemen of Ireland, whose conduct had been
exemplary, refraining from all demonstrations, and re-
maining perfectly quiescent, while the whole country was
agitated by their antagonists. The noble and learned lord
then defended the course of forbearance adopted by the
Government, contending that to attempt to put down these
meetings by force would be dangerous and futile, and
would only gratify those who wished for public disturbance.
Lord LYNDHURST addressed their lordships, contend-
ing that a conspiracy more dangerous than that which
prevailed in Ireland never took place in any country—a
conspiracy to destroy the Established Church, confiscate
its revenues, and, by the proposed fixity of tenure, to
transfer the whole landed property of the country from
the proprietor to the occupier. The noble and learned
lord defended the course pursued by the Lord Chancellor
of Ireland, and said that, under similar circumstances, he
would have pursued precisely a similar course.
Lord COTTENHAM expressed his surprise that the Lord
Chancellor should have denounced these meetings as il-
legal. If his propositions were correct high treason had
been committed, and if high treason had been committed,
what were the government doing in allowing it to go
unpunished ?

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE having replied, their
lordships divided, and negatived the resolutions by a
majority of 91 to 29.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-FRIDAY,

Mr. ARMSTRONG expressed his strong disapprobation
of the Irish Arms Bill.

Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN then moved as an amendment,
that all further proceeding with the Arms Bill should be
postponed until the other measures relating to Ireland
were taken into consideration.

.....
A long discussion ensued. ..
Finally, the amendment was
withdrawn.

The house then went into committee ; and there, with
reference to some difficulties suggested on a former night
respecting the vagueness of the word "arms,"
Lord ELIOT said, that throughout all the years during
which the legislature had been in the habit of renewing
these bills, no objection of this kind had ever been made
in parliament, nor had any such difficulty occurred in
practice. He proposed, however, in deference to the
feeling of the house, to introduce a declaration that fire-
arms only should be deemed to be within the meaning of
the word " arms" as used in this bill.

This definition seemed to meetwliVgeneral approbation,
and the committee then resumed their examination of the
bill in its details.

FOREIGN ti. COLONIAL INTELLIGENCE.

The New Zealand Company is, it would appear from
a correspondence betwen Mr. George Rennie and its sec-
retary, published in the Colonial Gazette, about to es-
tablish a fourth settlement in New Zealand, which is to
be called " New Edinburgh."
A JOINT-STOCK COFFEE-GROWING SOCIETY.—From
a report of the transaction of the Agricultural and Horti-
cultural Society of Calcutta, we learn that a joint-stock
company is about to be established at Chittagong, for the
cultivation of coffee. The plantation is said to, be a
promising one—the plants are healthy and luxuriant, and
lately every bush was full of blossom.—Bombay Times,
May 6.

We learn from Boulogne-sur-Mer that a few days ago
a revenue cutter captured, off Cape Grines, a boat, with
three men on board, containing bales of cotton-thread.
tulles, and stockings, amounting in value to 10,000 f. Each
bale had straps, so as to make it portable as a knapsack.
The boat and its freight were brought into Boulogne, and
sold on condition of the goods being re-exported.—French
paper.

M. Arago, at a meeting of the Academy of Sciences in
Paris last week, said a contract bad been entered into by
Messrs. Baring and Co., of London, with the Republic
of New Granada, in virtue of which the Republic is to
cede to them the line required for the projected canal
through the Isthmus of Panama with 80,000 acres of
land on the two banks, and 400,000 acres in the interior
of the country.

MORALS IN CUBA.—The Havannah editors, after pub?,
lishing the number of criminals arrested in that city du-
ring the year 1842, complain that their editorial brethren
in Old Spain and elsewhere insert extravagant stories about
the frequency of crime in the Havannah. Arrestations
in 1842 :—For murder, 49 ; stabbing, 238 ? robbery, 200;
rape, 16. If the Havanneros can brag about such a state-
ment as this, we do not know what they will not boast of.
Anti-Slavery Reporter.

THE CORMORANT STEAMER.—This vessel sailed on
Wednesday from Plymouth with important despatches
from Government to the British Consul at Rio de Janeiro,
and to Commodore Purvis, the English naval commander
at Monte Nideo. She is also bearer of despatches to the
Right Hon. Captain Lord George Paulet, of the Carys.
fort frigate, in the South Pacific, with the acknowledg.
ment of the free independence of Tamehamahar., 111 the
King of tke Sandwich Islands. She will first proceed to
Rio de Janeiro, then to Monte Video, and to Callao and

On the 3d inst. (says a Brussels paper) ag the vicar of
Contich was walking on the high road near Lachenee, he
was accosted by a thief, who ordered him imperiously to
hand over all that he had about hlm. The priest hnd

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IRELAND.

REPEAL Assoc' ATION .—The rent, as announced at the
weekly meeting on Tuesday, is 1,690 ss. 9d.

The twelfth of July passed off with the utmost quietude
in Ireland.

The Ulster Times of Saturday announces that Dr.
Coo e, of Belfast, has seceded from the jurisdiction of the
Irish General Assembly.
REPEAL—DUBLIN UNIVERSITY.—A correspondent
of the Limerick Chronicle states, that " Ten of the
students who shouted at the repeal exhibition, when
passing Trinity college, were fined half-a-guinea each by
the boad."

Edward Rogers, Esq., of Inesinacaint, in the province
of Ulster, and an influential character amongst the me-
thodists, granted permission to the Orangemen to hoist a
flag on the methodist chapel on the 12th of July, and it
accordingly floated there.
THE REPEAL BALLAD SINGERS.—THE POLICE.—
We are authorized to state that an able and experienced
attorney has kindly volunteered his services to defend any
of the repeal ballad singers whose liberties it may be at-
tempted to abridge in the exercise of a lawful calling.—
Kilkenny Journal.

REPEAL ASSOCIATION.—A meeting " extraordinary "
of this body was held on Saturday last, but from O'Con-
nell's long address we cannot gather that there was any
other object in the assembly being called together than to
afford the agitator an opportunity of expressing his opin-
ion on the recent Parliamentary dedate.

SIGNS OF THE TIMES.—On Wedesday last, a country-
man tried to get into our barracks, but was prevented by
the sentry, who told him he could not pass. The country
fellow, turning to a by stander, observed, " I know that
sodger, and I'll soon have a shot at him."—Tipperary
Constitution.

Samuel Gray, jun., was found guilty at the Monaghan
Assizes of subornation of perjury. Although there was
no evidence produced in his defence, the jury took two
hours to consider their verdict. The everlasting case of
Samuel Gray, sen., for firing at James Cunningham, was
to take place on Saturday.
The approaching cattle show at Belfast is likely to be a
splendid affair. The Duke of Leinster, president of the
Royal Agricultural Society of Ireland, is to fill the chair
at the principal dinner. The Marquis of Downshire is to
preside at the first council dinner previous to the show;
and Lord Charlemont and Lord Lurgan are named as
vice-presidents.

THE CLONES HOMICIDE.—The Monaghen grand jury
have ignored the bills returned against Mr. S. Smith, the
Sub-inspector of Police, for the murder of M'Caffrey,
the unfortunate man who lost his life in an affray arising
out of one of the repeal " demonstrations" held at Car-
rickmacross some time since. There are three of the
persons who swore against the inspector already in custody
who will be tried for perjury.
The other night, Mr. Sharman Crawford, presented a
petition from Rochdale, which he stated to be signed by
4,564 voters of the Borough, against the Irish Arms Bill;
whereas, in fact there are but 900 voters in the whole of
the Borough ; and a few of them are conservatives, who
are not likely to have signed the document. The same
system of expansion seems to be adopted in England as
is resorted to in Ireland, in estimating the attendance of
repeal meetings.
On Thursday last a diabolical attempt was made to
murder Mr. Fayle, postmaster of Enniscorthy, on his
return from Carnew to that place. When Mr. Fayle was
discovered he was not dead but with great difficulty was
enabled to state that on passing a plantation on the road
side a shot was fired at him but the slugs passed through
his hat. Three men then leaped out of the wood, and he
could not say what occurred after this. The fatal wound
is from a ball in the forehead.

MELANCHOLY AND FATAL ACCIDENT.—On Friday,
a fine interesting youth aged eleven years, son of Mr.
Twiname, was exercising his pony in the demesne at
Castlecor ; on its hearing the approach of another horse
it became alarmed and gallopped with such velocity that
his rider could not control him, when, on passing a tree,
the lad's head came in collision with a branch, and the
crown was extensively fractured and depressed on the
brain. He survived the shock nearly an hour, but expired
just as surgeons reached.—Cork Paper.
Another of the arch-agitator's monster meetings "came
off" on Sunday week, on the hill of Ballybricken, a few
miles from the city of Waterford, the number congregated
on the occasion being, according to the local repeal paper,
600,000, and, in the estimation of the Freeman, upwards
of 300,000. The display was very similar, in its general
features, to several of the preceding demonstrations. A
procession of the trades of Waterford, with appropriate
banners, and accompanied by no less than forty Temper-
ance bands, led the way before Mr. O'Connell's carriage
from Kilmacthomas to the place of meeting, a distance of
five miles. The dinner took place afterwards in the Town-
hall. The Mayor of Waterford presided.

THE BISHOP OF CASHEL.—The Right Rev. Dr. Daly,
Bishop of Cashel and Waterhouse, has addressed a pasto-
ral letter to Sir Benjamin Morris, severely censuring the
repeal Knight for his encouragement of Sabbath desecra-
ion by his p: esence at the late monster" demonstra-
tion near that city :—" I have now lived many years and
visited many different places (says Dr. Daly), and I never
witnessed such a scene of Sabbath desecration as in- this
city yesterday, a day on which the family devotions of se
rious people were to be disturbed—on which so few of the
population could have attended their places of worship--
on which so many had their minds filled from morning till
evening with thoughts foreign to the objects of the Sab-
bath—' things below, and not things above.' I say nothing
of the especial object for which you called on the people
to desert the worship of God, and assemble•in this city ;
with the political question I have nothing to do. What I
remonstrate with you for is, the wanton desecration of the
Sabbath, the presumptuous violation of a commandment
of our God."

JOSHUA JACOB AND HIS DISCIPLES.—On Thursday
morning the marshal of the Four Courts, Dublin, ap-
peared before Master Litton in consequence of a decree
served on Joshua Jacob, now in custody under a writ of
ne excat reyno, requiring him to lodge in coart a sum of
upwards of £l,OOO, and the marshal stated that Joshua
wished to have his cause pleaded by some friend. The
tenets of his religion forbad him to employ counsel or
attorney, and be wished therefore to be heard by some
friend. Master Litton expressed his readiness to hear
what Joshua Jacob could urge in defence of his conduct.
The marshal then left the office, and soon afterwards re-
turned conducting in two females attired in white, and who
were to be the advocates for the imprisoned martyr. A
good deal of laughter arose at this circumstance, but after
a time Mrs. Ann Jacob, the sister-in-law of the prisoner,
held forth and contended that it was for the honour of
religion the property of the minors had been diverted from
their hands, and it would now be appropriated to the pur-
poses of religion. The master condemned the whole
transaction as a most unjust and discreditable one—the
taking from children a large sum of money to which they
were entitled ' • and the two advocates left the office, much
grieved to find that the master did not give credit to
Joshua for the goodness of his intentions.

THE IRISH " GRIEVANCES."—There seems to have
been at least one sensible man in the House of Commons
during the long debate on Mr. Smith O'Brien's motion,
if we may judge by the following letter from the honour-
able member for Westmeath, which appeared in the papers
of Thursday evening :
" I wish to explain how I came to vote in the majority
last night. I fell asleep some time before the division
took place, and on my being awakened by some member,
as all the opposition members had already retired to their
lobby, and as I saw a large crowd going out of the door
leading to the old lobby, I thought the house had ad-
journed, and did not perceive my mistake until it was too
late to return.—l have, &c.,

" BENJAMIN CHAPMAN

" Reform Club, July 13."
It is true Mr. Chapman voted against his party, which
is the more to be regretted, as he had evidently made up
his mind not to be influenced by argument ; but then he
had the personal satisfaction of not hearing the debate.
Lulled by pleasant dreams "some time before the division
took place," he escaped the boring of Barron and Roche,
and the rest of his friends, and was only awakened to the
pleasing consciousness of the talk being ended in time to
record his vote (in true Irish fashion) on the wrong side.
It would have been a boon to the public had Mr. Chap-
man's " custom always of an afternoon" been more ex-
tensively followed.

IRELAND-THE DIVISION ON MR. SMITH
O'BRIEN'S MOTION.

The following is a digest of the division on Mr. Smith
O'Brien's motion, " That this house will resolve itself
into a committee for the purpose of taking into consider-
ation the causes of the discontent at present prevailing
in Ireland."—Ayes, 164 ; Noes, 243 ; majority against
the motion, 79.

FOR THE MOTION.
ENGLAND.
Counties
Boroughs
WALES. --- 120
Counties ..
Boroughs

SCOTLAND

Counties
Boroughs

IRELAND

Counties
Boroughs

Total for the motion
AGAINST THE MOTION.
ENGLAND.
Counties
Boroughs
Universities

Counties.
Boroughs

WALES,

SCOTLAND

Counties
Boroughs

IRELAND
Counties
Boroughs
'University

- 196

Total against the motion.. --- 24,
By the above the following results will appear :
•,eainst the motion, England.... 7

Majority
Ditto, Wale;

and

member

,cotland

Manners, Lord J. ((Newark). V4l
Ferrand, W. B. (Knaresborougb

UNIVERSITY AND CLERICAL NEWS,

OXFORD, JULY 8.

An election took place this morning for a Professor of
Divinity on the foundation of the Lady Margaret, mother
of King Henry VII., when the Rev. Godfrey Faussett,
D.D., late Fellow of Magdalen College, and now Canon
of Christ Church, was unanimously re-elected. _

In a congregation held the same day, the following de-
grees were conferred :
MASTERS OF ARTS.—Rev. William Cartwright, Brase-
nose College ; Rev. Frederic Henry Tompson, Queen's
College ; William Hombersley, Christ Church ; George
Webbe Dasent, Magdalen Hall.
BACHELORS OF ARTS.—Thomas Walters, Magdalen
Hall; Wm. Charles Denshire, Queen's College; Robert
Sparke Hutchings, Christ Church; Charles J. Phelips,
Christ Church ; John Coker, Fellow of New College.
NEW COLLEGE.—This day Mr. Mereweather, of Brase-
nose, was admitted a Scholar of this Society.
The Rev. John T. C. Fawcett, M.A., Student of Christ
Church, has been presented by the Very Rev. the Dean
and Chapter of that Society, to the Vicarage of Kilnwick,
Yorkshire; and also the Rev. Philip C. Kidd, 8.A.,
Chaplain of Christ Church, to the Vicarage of Skipton,
Yorkshire.