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petition of which he had

This gave rise to a conversation, in which the Earl of
WicKLow and the Marquis of CLANRICARDE expressed
themselves favourable to the payment of the catholic

clergy by the state

CORONERS BILL

testant proprietors as no part of that people. Mr. Ward
had said that the English and Scotch nations would never
consent to tax themselves for the maintenance of the
Roman Catholic clergy. Did he suppose those two na-
tions would ever consent to the abolition of the Prot stant
Church ? The language now employed was strangely at
variance with the assurances given when the emancipation
was carried. There was then, on the subject of the
Church, a distinct understanding and compact, which it
would be a plain breach of faith in the government now
to violate.
The debate was then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-WEDNESDAY

Lord NVIIAIINCLIFFE moved, that this bill be read a
third time.

Mr. TRELAWNEY (on the adjourned debate being re-
sumed) contended that the right of the church to its pro-
perty was not indefeasible, and condemned the applica-
tion of a coercive policy to Ireland.
Sir R. INGLIS maintained the title of the church to its
endowments. The mover, whatever else might be im-
puted to him, could not be accused of having deceived
the house; he had taken away from Lord John Russell
and his partisans all excuse for voting in favour of the
motion. He had broadly proposed to strip from the
church in Ireland all the revenue it possessed except
£7o.ooo—that is, to take away 7-Bths, or 17s. 6d. in the
pound; and yet had gravely added, that this was no un-
worthy compromise ! He had left the church with scarce
a rag to cover her nakedness, and then, putting a halter
round her neck, had handed the other end of the rope to
her bitterest enemies. The manner of the hon. member
had, indeed, been courteous; but the bowstring was not
less fatal because it might be made of silk. He admitted
that in some respects the Church of Ireland had failed of
her duty ; in particular, the Scriptures ought to have been
translated in the language of the people. But he denied
the validity of the arguments deduced from former abuses
of that church, and showed the improvements of its mi-
nistry in recent times. Mr. Ward, however, grounded
his reasoning mainly upon numbers, and was prepared to
establish the creed of Bramah or of Fo, if it were the
creed of the majority. From that principle he dissented ;
for he was persuaded that it was just as much our public
as our private duty to teach and advance what we believed
to be the true religion. The question, moreover, was not
what religion we should establish ; the motion went not
to establish a religion, but to destroy one already esta-
blished ; and that, too, by more than any ordinary law;
by a compact of two independent legislatures. The mul-
titudes, therefore, who were collected to destroy that es-
tablishment were not entitled to plead that they were
seeking only the repeal of a statute. When emancipation
was conceded, it was upon the assurances, given by the
leading Catholics themselves, that it would not be employed
to weaken, but would rather avail to fortify, the Protes-
tant church. He would maintain that church, because
he believed its doctrine to be the truth, because it was a
doctrine established by the treaty of two kingdoms, be-
cause he valued it for its works of charity, and because
he regarded it as the great bond of connexion between
England and Ireland.
Lord LISTOWEL declaimed against the Irish Church
settlement as contrary to principle and common sense;
and pronounced it to be a just retribution that Ireland
should have become a source of danger to England.
Lord BERNARD asked how long a majority, who found
it thus intolerable to acquiesce in a Protestant Church,
would submit to a Protestant monarchy? He contended
that the Church now established in Ireland was the Church
of the ancient Irish people, and went into historical cita-
tionsin support of this proposition, showing that though
the Bishops in that country had not acceded to the refor-
mation, it had been adopted by the Chiefs and the laity,
who had given their full adhesion to HENRY VIII. But
he would uphold the Protestant church on other and high-
er grounds—on the grounds of its own superiority, and the
duty of extending its faith among the people. He denied
the value of arguments deduced from by-gone abuses of
the church, and bore his testimony to the merits of the
Protestant clergy of the present time.
Mr. Coen RANE said, that as the arguments for the mo-
tion were only what they had been on former occasions,
he trusted the division against them would be as decisive
as heretofore. He was glad to find that the Government
took a tone of determination against such a proposal. He
did not sea that the concessions already made had improved
our position. The expediency of paying the Roman Cath-
olic clergy was a very different question from the fitness of
stripping the Protestant church. The mover did not ask
to take the whole; but after the arguments which had
been used about the past, he wished to know what security
there was that if more were given now, the rest would not
shortly be demanded. He exhorted the Government to act
with that strength which was better than the force of ma-
jorities—with strength of mind.
Mr. V. STUART desired the house to consider the
church question not as an isolated one, but as one connec-
ted with all the other Irish questions. This was not an
affair of religion, but an affair of money ; and they who
put it on religious grounds showed little confidence in their
JOHNSTONE hailed the bill as a great boon to own church, when they treated it as incapable of support..
the whole population of Scotland. ing itself without those vast pecuniary means. The Pro-
Sir R. PEEL had heard no objection to the bill on the testant church was that great grievance which had hitherto
ground that it was at variance with the general usage of kept the people in misery. It had not even accomplished
the church, or the general principles of the law. His be- its own purposes;
in a larger proportion than those of for the numbers of the Roman Catho-,
lief was that the bill was acceptable to a very large portion tics were increasing
of the people of Scotland ; he believed that the secession the Protestants.
from the church would have been much larger, if her ma- Mr. HARDY dwelt upon the assurances so repeatedly
jesty's government had refused to interfere by legislation. given by the Roman. Catholics when they were seeking
The impediment of the veto act had been removed, and he emancipation, that there was no desire on their part to dis-
trusted a large body of the house would support her ma turb the Protestant Church ; and he read the oath which
jesty's government in their attempt to abate a tremendous is taken by Roman Catholic members of the legislature
evil to Scotland and to the cause of religion. against attempting any such disturbance. Those who
The house then divided, when the second reading was talked about freedom of religion did not themselves con-
carried by a majority of 98 to 80. cede it : the Roman Catholic poor were not allowed by
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and their own authorities to read their Bible ; and if any one
the house adjourned. of them should seek instruction by attending a Protestant
place of worship, he would be denounced from the altar as
a man to be shunned by all his neighbours. Mr. Hardy
was proceeding, when a motion was made that the house
should be counted ; and it being found that there were not
40 members present, the house was adjourned.

Agreed to. Their lordships then adjourned

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MoNDAY

Several unopposed bills were advanced a stage (amongst
which was the Austrian Slave Trade Bill.)

The house ordered the committal to Newgate, in pur-
suance of the report of the Epworth petition, of Samuel
eery of petitions presented to the house.

Potts, for for;

CHURCH OF SCOTLAND BENEFICES BILL

The second reading of the Church of Scotland Benefices
Bill was moved by Sir J. GRAHAM in a speech of great
length, in. which he entered into an historical view of the
question, from the time of t,,e reformation down to the
present time. In answer to the objection, that the bill
was " too late," he said that the government could not
interfere while the Church of Scotland was in opposition
to the law of the land ; but, that objection having been
removed by the acts of the assembly, the present measure
was now introduced in the hope of securing and building
up a church which he believed still retained its place in
the hearts and affections of the people.
Mr. WALLACE opposed the second reading. He con-
sidered that the bill being brought in in the month of July,
so late in the session, was as great an affront to the peo-
ple of Scotland as the act of Anne, which had been passed
with such breathless baste. The bill, instead of removing,
would tend to create, doubts and litigation hitherto un-
known. There was no petition in favour of it; and. if it
passed, the majority of the inhabitants of Scotland would
secede from the church. He therefore moved that the
bill be read a second time that day six months.
Mr. B. COCHRANE opposed the bill.
Mr. RUTHERFORD also expressed his surprise at the
bill being brought in at this late period of the session.
Formerly Scotland was blessed with a church which had
the entire confidence of the nation ; now they were to be
cursed with a church which commanded the confidence of
none. He lauded the conduct of the ministers who had
seceded, and felt proud of his countrymen when he con-
sidered that for conscience sake 200 licentiates of the
church had renounced whar, would have been the highest
object of their ambition. If the bill were to be brought
forward at all, it should have been introduced before the
secession ; but, in the present temper of the people, it
would only aggravate the evils, and drive more of its mem-
bers from the established church.

Sir W. FOLLETT differed from the hon. gentleman
as to the propriety of introducing the bill before the seces-
sion. No g,vernment could sanction or satisfy the claims
of Lie non-intrusionists, as they sought the total abroga-
tion of patronage, and even taught that the church courts
could set at defiance the acts of the legislature. The present
measure, whose object was the removal of doubts, was ac-
ceptable to the general assembly, and those adhering to the
established church.

Lord J. RUSSELL complained of the House of Com-
mons enacting a declaratory law contrary to the opinion
of L',rd Cottenham and the highest legal authorities in
the land. According to this bill, a clergyman might now
preach, any body might object, but there was no power in
any one to come to a decision. This bill, then, by its
enacting part, gave a new and dangerous power to the
church. It gave a judgment to the church courts on the
objection of two or three persons, against the opinions of
all the rest of the congregation.

Sir G. CLERK believed the practical effect of the bill
would be to induce the patrons to use a greater degree of
ease in the selection of their candidates. No petitions had
been presented against the bill, nor had any presbytery
expressed an opinion adverse to it.

Mr. F. MAULE thought this was not a measure calcu-
lated to aid the church of Scotland, but to further the
cause of that which he called the church, by creating
differences in the church established by law. The main
*biection to the bill was that it gave power to the church
which ought not to be placed in their hands ; and it was
that objection which led those who had seceded to refuse it
in 1840. This bill would only prevent those from seceding
whom it was not worth while for the church to retain, or for
the seceders to accept.

Mr. A. CAMPBELL with great warmth opposed the bill
as most unconstitutional, and most unworthy of a conser-

votive goy
Mr. H.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TuEsDA-y

MO RTM AI N

Lord J. Ni

led the attention of the house to 1
n private charity by the law of 1

the restrictions i

my ought now no longer to HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY.
,aidividuals. lie reviewed the
~ down to the 9th of George 11., • On the motion for reappointing the orders which had
,ey have become impolitic in a state been dropped the preceding day, Mr. WARD announced,
t
of things in which rebellion is rife throughout the land, that, having been treated with the utmost courtesy by the
g
engendered by distress and ignorance, of which these laws government, and having lost his motion by the non-attend-
dueance of his own friends, he should not renew the subject
obstruct relief. It might, perhaps, be feared that un
influences would be exercised over dying men ; but there in this session. But he could not help censuring, as
might be a limitation, allowing them to dispose of only a
childish and silly, the practice of watching a critical mo-
ment, and getting half a dozen members to walk away, for
certain proportion—say a third—of their property. In-
stead, however, of requiring the grant to be made twelve the purpose of reducing the numbers below the quorum
of 40. In the present instance the result had been pecu-
months, and to be enrolled six before the testator's death,
liarly unfortunate, because it would probably be miscon-
the law might shorten those respective periods to one
strued by the Irish into a disregard of their country.
month and cue week. There were some institutions
Mr. ESCOTT, by whom the house had been counted out,
which had been made exceptions • but why should Green-
vindicated the rule of the house which requires the pre-
with Hospital or a particular charity at Bath be thus
settee of a competent number of members. He had thought
permitted to receive donations which a testa or was for-
it is duty to take care that so important a subject should
bidden to bestow upon a school or hospital in a manufac
not he discussed in so thin an assembly.
turing district? He wished to see a restoration, in some
Mr. ROCHE thanked Mr. Escott for having taken a
sort, of religious houses; without some monastic institu-course by which a flimsy veil had been torn from the
Lions, he could not hope that any adequate relief would
be given to the great masses now labouring under such
countenances of the professing friends of Ireland. Mem-
fearful privations. He happened to know that at this hers connected with the existing government had been in
moment an elderly lady was desirous to bestow £25,000 their places, but lords and gentlemen, the leaders of the
for the building of churches ; and this donation would or late ministry, had all been absent on this pet question of
would not be valid EIS the testatrix should or should not the whigs. He had twice counted the house, and had
live over the winter. Many more such instances might foreseen that it would be counted out; indeed he would
h
be specified. Calling upon the house to sweep away the have done that himself, but that he had thought some-
cobwebs of ancient legislation, and open the way for the body would say, " This repealer is factious." The result
bounty of charitable testators, he concluded by moving a confirmed him in the opinion that English members were
resolution that it is inexpedient to continue the existing indifferent to Irish interests.
restrictions. Mr. R. YORKE said, that though the government would
Sir J. GRAHAM could not consent, at so late a period perhaps have done more worthily and wisely to rescue
of the session, and in so thin a house, to disturb one of this great question from the abandonment of its friends,
the great arrangements of the law of real property. Nor yet the responsibility for that shameful conclusion was not
could. he agree in the expediency of establishing, in these on them, but on the party with whom he himself was ac-
times, religious houses or monastic institutions. In such customed to act, and whose conduct on such occasions
was petty and paltry.
a matter, too, it would have been more fitting that the
noble lord should have proposed a bill than a mere ab- Mr. SHAW, with reference to a particular statement in
the debate on Mt. Ward's motion, informed the house
stract resolution. Therefore, with all respect for the
motives and intentions of the mover, he must resist this that many thousands of prayer-books in the Irish lan-
guage had been printed and circulated.
The house then went on to the Limitation of Actions
(Ireland) Bill. The SPEAKER having left the chair, the
committee heard counsel for certain petitioners against
the measure, and afterwards proceeded to discuss the
clauses in detail.
When the chairman reported progress the committee
had proceeded as far as the 16th clause.

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statutes on th

and contended tha

proposition.
Mr. C. BULLER supported Lord J. Manners.
Sir It. IN Gus could not join iu the views of the mover,
least of all in his wish to revive monastic institutions.
Though there were restrictions as to land, personalty was
unrestricted ; and this kind of property had grown in
modern times to a bulk undreamt of by the makers of the
•

roortrnain acts.
Lord JORN MANNERS replied, consenting to wave a
.. . .

division.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-FRIDAY

motion was thereupon withdrawn

LUSH CHURCH

The house held a day sitting, again meeting at twelve
o'clock.

Mr. WARD then brought on his motion for an address
to the Queen, affirming the Church of Ireland to be among
the most prominent grievances of her people, and pledg-
ing the house to co-operate with her Majesty in a new
settlement of the property of that church. The clear re-
venue of the Protestant Church was about £552,753,
being at the rate of about 15s. a head for each communi-
cant of the Establishment ; while the Regium donum to
the Presbyterians made provision only at the rate of about
ls. a head; and for the Roman Catholics there was not a
farthing. The existence of such a church was regarded
by the Irish not only as an injury, but as an insult. Being
men, they must be governed, and they could not be go-
verned thus. Yon could not thus govern 8,000,000 of
people, living in the midst of you, and knit together by
the bond of a common justice. Hei would propose alto-
gether to break up the present establishment of bishops
and archbishops in Ireland, and would look only to the
working clergy. He would legalize the titles of the Roman
Catholic Bishops, and restore the churches which had
been anciently taken from Roman Catholic congregations.
Some thought that the best course would be to transfer
the whole establishment to the Roman Catholics. That
might have been done at the Union ; nay, as late as 1825,
the priests were willing to accept remuneration from the
state; but this willingness had ceased. Some thought a
provision should be made for the Catholic clergy from the
consolidated fund ; but the objection to that was simply
that it would be impossible; the English and Scotch peo-
ple would never consent to it. As to the funds of the
church, he would place them, subject to existing interests,
in the hands of commissioners, and distribute them
among the members of the Establishment, the Presby-
terians, and the Roman Catholics, according to the num-

The Hackney Carriages Bill went through committee :
the Highway Rates Bill was road a third time and

Some discussion took place on committees on the Thea-
tres Regulations Bill, but the clauses were agreed to with
slight alterations.

hers of each denomination.
Lord ELIOT said that Mr. Ward had admitted that no
man who voted for this address could stop there • and it
was, therefore, for !ntlemen to consider whether they
were prepared e for the total destruction of the
ant Church The question of a Protestant Esta-
Protest n of a Propblishment

The house then resolved itself into a committee on the
Irish Poor-laws. On clause 16, which gives power to the
guardians to advance funds to paupers for the purpose of
emigrating, Mr. Ross moved an amendment, vesting
this power in the rate-payers, but the clause was carried
on a division.

to vot

J tan t Sovereign ;
tho-

On the order of the day for going into a Committee of
Supply, Mr. DUNCOMBE moved, that a petition he had
presented in the month of May last, complaining of the
conduct of the magistrates of Hull in dispersing a public
meeting, on the 13th of April, in that town, should be re-
ferred to a select committee.

i to the Ca

'manded on their

_
behalf. The t,_ ~,e Irish
Church, which Mr.
Ward had put at upwards of £552,000, was, in fact,
£432,123 ; and this sum, when distributed among 1395
beneficed clergymen, and 741 curates, gave an average
iiacome of little more than £2Ol to each. Gentlemen
talked of the Roman Catholics as if they were the whole
people of Ireland—treating the entire body of the Pro-

Sir J. GRAHAM opposed the motion, and, after a brief
discussion, it was negatived by a majority of 54.
Sir R. PEEL, in answer to Mr. BORTHWICK, would
not pledge himself " to name any particular day for the
lion. gentleman's motion respecting Don Carlos.
Mr. BLEWITT gave notice that he should next session
introduce a bill to prevent the sovereign of any foreign
state from sitting and voting in the House of Lords.
The house then formed itself into a committee of sup-
ply, and Sir G. CLERK proposed a sum of £1,281,211 to
be granted as compensation to the holders of the opium
delivered up to the Chinese in 1838.
A long debate followed, which occupied the remainder
of the night, and on a division the resolution was carried
by a majority of 47.
The Admiralty Lands Bill was read a third time and
passed.