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PARLIAMENTARY INTELLIGENCE.

HOUSE OF LORDS,

MONDAY.—Continued from our First Edition of last
week. _ _

JOTEE PERSAUD.—Lord BROUGHTON warmly defended
the government of India from the observations of Lord
Ellenborough, and expressed his hope that the present,
like many other charges preferred against it, would turn
out to be greatly exaggerated, if not entirely without
foundation. After a few words in reply from Lord EL.
LENBOROUGH, the matter dropped.
SMITHFIELD MARKET REMOVAL BILL.—On the mo-
t•ion of Earl GRANVILLE, this bill was read a second time
without discussion. _ _

ECCLESIARTICALTITLESBILI..—TheII!arquis Of LANS-
DOWNE moved that the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption
Bill be read a first time, and that the second reading
should be fixed for Monday week. After some observa-
tions from Lord MoNTEAGLE, eliciting for the benefit of
the public that the motion of a first reading was merely a
matter of form with their lordships in order that they
might be put in possession of the details of a bill, it was
agreed to.—The Duke of ARGYLL presented several peti-
tions in favour of the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill—some of
them praying that it might be made more stringent. Also
one to the same effect from the ministers and elders of
the Liverpool and Manchester Presbytery, in connexion
with the Established Church.

On the motion of the noble DUKE, the British White
Herring Fishery Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Earl of MOUNICASIIF.LL presented numerous peti-
tions from congregations in Lancashire, in favour of the
Ecclesiastical Titles Bill.
TUESDAY.-SCRIPTURAL EDUCATION.—The Earl of
RoDEN presented many petitions from Belfast and various
places in Ireland and elsewhere, praying that the schools
belonging to the Church of England in Ireland may not
be excluded from their due share in the grants devoted to
educational purposes. It was too bad that £30,000 a-
year should be granted to the College of Maynooth for
educational purposes, and nothing to the schools of the
Church of England.
On the motion of the Marquis of Clanricarde the Ap-
prentices to the Sea Service (Ireland) Bill was read a third
time and passed.
ATTORNEYS AND SOLICITORS' REGULATION ACT
AMENDMENT BILL.—The Marquis of CLANRICARDE, in
moving the second reading of this bill, observed that it
was introduced for the purpose of giving to the graduates
and students in the Queen's Colleges in Ireland the same
advantages and privileges which were enjoyed by the stu-
dents and graduates in the English Universities with re-
gard to their admission as attorneys in the courts of com-
mon law, and as solicitors in the Court of Chancery.
Lord MONTEAGLE condemned in strong terms the reso-
lutions of the Synod of Thurles against these colleges, and
observed, that so strong had been the opposition which
they had met with from a large portion of the Roman
Catholic clergy, that the promoters of them had not ven-
tured to forward them to Rome. After a remark from
Earl Powys, the bill was read a second time.

EXPENSES OF PROSECUTIONS.— Lord CRANWORTH
moved that this bill be read a third time. An irregular
discussion on the measure took place, in the midst of
which the noble lords who took part in it were surprised
by the announcement that the question that the bill do
now pass had been put by the LORD CHANCELLOR and
carried.

his first appearance as a peer, and supported the charac-
ter which he had borne for philanthropy in the House of
Commons, by one of his able speeches on behalf of the
comforts of the poorer classes. The noble earl moved the
second reading of the Lodging-houses Bill, which he
stated was limited in its operation to towns containing
not less than h),000 inhabitants, was founded upon the
model of the Baths and Washhouses Act. It was per-
' -ive, and based upon the principle that the institutions
established under it should be reniunerative and self-sup-
porting. Experience had shewn that these points were
perfectly attainable, whilst the details of the measure af-
forded security against jobbing. Snch a measure, he con-
tended, would be productive of great moral and social be-
nefit to the labouring classes. The bill was read a second
time, after speeches warmly approving of it from the

Marquis of Normanbl
rowby, and the Marqt

y, Lord Kinnaird, the Earl of Mr-
uis of Lansdowne.

THURSDAY

—Lord ItnoncilAm announced that it

was not his it

system of
that for

Banktuptcy and (

ty Courts, or

nferring an equitable jurisdiction on the

The Burgess and Freemen's Franchise Bill was, after a
short conversation, read a second time.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH, in moving for papers
connected with the Merchant Seamen's Fund, strongly
condemned the impolitic and unjust character of the bill
upon the subject which was now pending in the House o
Commons. Earl GRANVILLE defended the me

would be prepared to enter into it at length when
should have passed the Commons. After a few &nen

Lions from Lord COLCHESTER
THE GIINP

be motion was agreed to.
DER STORES (LIVERPOOL).—On the
ad GRANVILI.E, the Gunpowder Stores
) Exemption Repaal Bill was read a second

motion of

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FRIDAY.—THECRYSTALPALACE.—Lnrd BROUGH AM
in presenting a petition from Mr. Paxton, praying that
means should be devised to preserve the Crystal Palace,
which the commissioners were now pledged to remove by
a given time, said he was desirous of supporting its prayer,

regarding the erection as one of great beauty and utility,
although he was, in the first instance, opposed to its
erection in the Park. Lord CAMPBELL stated many
objections to the perpetuation of the building, which
might give rise to many evils, whatever purpose it might
be applied to. After a short conversation the petition
was ordered to lie on the table.

REVIVAL OF CONVOCATION.—Lord REDESDALE, in
presenting some petitions praying for a restoration of the
system of convocation, said that he brought the subject
under consideration with some hesitation, and therefore
did so in a manner which would not pledge their lord-
ships to any definite course. It was to be recollected
that every other religious persuasion in the country were
permitted to have a system of representation, by which
their interests might be considered and protected, and
that such a system was in consonance with the whole
spirit of our constitution, and could not be abrogated
without danger. The noble lord contended at some
length that the restoration of convocations might be pro.
ductive of great benefit both to the Church and the
nation. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY thought revi-
val of convocations calculated to increase rather than
Leal the divisions in the Church. From the time of the

revolution down, the history of convocation presented
little pleasant to remember or wise to imitate. The
Archbishop of DUBLIN commented on the anomaly which
the Church presented in being governed by a body of
persons who did not necessarily belong to it. He believed
that •-• were -- of --

tne arguments all in favour of convocation.
The Bishop of LONDON claimed for the Church the right
to meet in convocation. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE
said the revival of convocation would in reality be a total
zhange in the government of the Church, and he called
upon the house to pause before introducing a new element
into our ecclesiastical system. The Bishop of OXFORD
thought that convocation was far less dangerous than the
existing system. After a few observations from the Mar-
quis of LANSOOWNE, some papers on the subject, moved
for by Lord REDESDALE, were agreed to, and their lord-
ships adjourned.

MONDAY

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
—Continued from our First Edition of last

HOUSE DUTY.—After remarks from Mr. Heyworth,
Mr. Williams, and other members, Mr. DISRAELI said
he thought that the present measure was injudicious and
impolitic, and would only give a partial instead of a com-
plete compensation for the loss of the Window Tax. He
regretted that the forms of the_House would prevent Mr
Packe from brir

_ ig forward his amendment, making the
Louse duty commence at £lO instead of £2O. The addi-
tion was negatived without a division, and the clause was
agreed tcr. Several other additional clauses were moved
The bill then passed

atived without divisions

through c

WOODS AND FORESTS.—The house went into commit-
tee on this bill, the clauses of which were agreed to, after

discussion

SUPPLY—NEW HOUSES—SECRET SERVICES.—OD the
order for going into committee of supply, Sir D. NORREYS
moved that the architect of the New Palace at Westmin-
ster lay before the house a report in detail on the manner
in which he would recommend that the interior decora-
tions of the new house of Commons should be completed,
and that he be directed to prepare plans. He made
heavy complaints re3pecting the misunderstandings be-
tween the Commissioners and Mr. Barry, the result of
which was, that the new house, notwithstanding the
expense incurred, was a most unsatisfactory building.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER recommended the
house not to interfere further in this matter. He hoped
they would have one or two morning sittings in the new
house this session, which would afford a practical know.
ledge of its qualities. A short discussion followed, in
which Mr. Hume, Sir De Lacy Evans, Mr. I'. Greene,
and Mr. Clay took part, the motion was negatived, and
the house went into committee of supply on the Civil
Services, Civil Contingencies, and Commissariat Esti-
mates. On a vote of £32.000 for secret service money,
Mr. WILLIAM WILLIAMS moved that the sum he reduced
to £20,000. The opinion out of doors was that the money
was spent in corrupting the electors, with the view of
promoting the success of Government candidates. Col.
SIBTHORP denounced the vote. The word " secret" was
enough for him. It showed that the money was applied
to purposes which Ministers were ashamed to make pub-
lic. For all that he knew, some of the money may be
applied to convivial entertainments in Downing-street, in
hiring spies, and it may be in bribing Cardinal Wiseman
to come over to this country with the Pope's bull. Lord
PALMERSTON could assure Mr. Williams that no part of
the money
was applied to corrupting electors. The money
was necessary for purposes connected with the carrying
out of her 11.jesty's Government. Mr. DISRAELI would
support the vote ; but he thought, at the same time, that
Ministers should state more frankly than they had done
the purposes to which the money was applied. Mr.
COBDEN, looking at the various opinions which had been
expressed as to the purposes to which the secret service
money was applied, thought it would generally be allowed
that the purposes were not honourable, otherwise they
would not be kept in the dark. Mr. NEWDEGATE re-
minded Mr. Cobden that the Anti-Corn-law League dealt
in secret service as well as the Government, and were
equally disinclined to publish particulars. On a division,
he amendment was negatived by 140 to 41. Several other

votes were agreed to, and the house resumed, when the
other orders were disposed uf.

ATTORNEYS' CgaTiFicKras.—Petitions pray►ng for
repeal of the annual duty on attorneys' certifcates were
presented by Sir T. Birch, tram solicitors. in Liverpool ;
and by Mr. Greenall, from attorneys and solicitors of
Warrin,,ton.

TUESDAY.—The Speaker took the chair at 12 o'clock.
The morning sitting was exhausted in the consideration
of the details of the Civil Bills, 'ficc. (Ireland) Bill.
The House resumed at a quarter past 5.
THE CRYSTAL PALACE.—Mr. -S7'AFFORD presented a
'petition from Mr. Paxton for the maintenance of the
Crystal Palace, and gave notice that he should this day
move that the petition be printed with the votes.
ATTORNEYS' CERTIFICATRS.—Petitions against the
'duty on annual certificates were presented by Mr. Henry,
from attorneys and solicitors rin Manchester; by Sir G.
'Strickland, from Preston ; by Mr. Blair, from thie solicitors
of Bolton : by Mr. Hornby, from the solicitors of Black-
, burn.

Petitions were presented, by Mr. Grenfell, from the
Preston Guardian Society for the Protection of Trade,
against the Attorney-General's clause in 'the County
Courts Bill giving exclusive audience to barristers in all
cases above £2O.

Mr. WHITESIDE asked the First Lord of the Treasury
whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Govern-
ment to adopt measures towards the formation of a Trans-
atlantic packet-station in Galway, or any other Trish port ?
Lord.a. RUSSELL said he was not at present prepared to
answer the question.

CHOLERA RETURNS.-Mr. J. BELL asked Lord Sey-
mour whether the reports of the inspectors and medical
inspectors respecting the cholera epidemic of 11848-49 had
been preserved ; and if so, whether there would be any
objection to handing over these documents to the Epi-
demiological Society ? Lord SEYMOUR said•the Board of
Health would at all times be happy to afford the Epi-
demiological (a laugh) Society any informasion in its
power, but it could not part with the returns in -question,
having constant occasion itself to refer to them.

THE SOUND DUES.—In reply to a question put by Mr.
CLAY, Lord PALMERSTON stated that her Majesty's Go-
vernment had not taken any step to give notice of termi-
nating the aereement of 1841 with Denmark, regulating
the dues levied by that State on goods passing the Sound,
nor had any -communications been entered into between
this country and Russia and Prussia for the commutation
of these dues; adding that, considering what Denmark
had lately suffered, the present, he thought, was not the
moment when a generous and friendly Government should
take a step which that power might considers hostile one.
MORE MINISTERIAL DEFEATS.—The after proceedings
of the evening were signalised by two Ministerial defeats on
questions on which the Government have suffered before,
so that we may suppose that they are fully " used to it,"
and that no particular consequences will result from the
same. The first case was the bill brought in by Lord R.
GROSVENOR, for abolishing the Attorneys' and Solicitors'
Certificates Duty. The noble.lord tried to save the Go-
vernment, and to let them down easy. If they would
only give him the slightest promise of taking the question
into consideration next session, he would not attempt to
proceed. The CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER, how-
ever, was inexorable. He felt it his duty to oppose the
motion. The finances would not allow of the reduction,
and if they would, he could not admit the claims of the
fax in question, above all others, to prior consideration.
The house divided, when there appeared—For the mo-
-162 • - t 137 • --'

; against, majority against (,government,
So that Lord Robert Grosvenor was allowed to in-
troduce his bill.—The other question was Mr. H. BER-
KELEY'S annual motion for leave to introduce a bill pre-
scribing the Ballot as the future mode of election. The
motion was supported by Mr. ELLIS, Mr. HUME, Mr.
SCOBELL, and Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD. No speaker
appearing on the opposing side, a division, being. loudly
called for. took place, when the numbers were—For the
motion, 87 ; against, 50; majority against Government,
37. The declaration was naturally received with vehe-
ment cheering by the Radical portion of the house.

of the evening was occupied in discuss-
g Mr. Scully's motion, affirmirg the desirability of
aking Irish union workhouses reproductive. It was re-
jected by 64 to 42.

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