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imptilat Vartiament.

HOUSt 0 CON ONS.—WEDNEsnAi.
(Continued from the STANDARD• of Friday.)

_ . riIt7SINESS O 4 THE DAY. ; • ,
• moved the order of the day for the resumption of
this debate.
Sir ItotiUta PEEL opposed, the adoption of any general rule
on this subject; by ivincit the house, would 'be fettered. If the
=outliers Of iaaLliouse,.w.cre tit CI legislation. at all„they might
safely be entrusted with the. power of deciding eaca night the
hoiir after which no new business should be commenced.
The motion was lost' by a majority'ofsixty-five.
• - WILLS' EXECUTION BILL.
Sir JOHN CVAVIPit.i. moved Ilie leddtid reatlingaftb+Ebill,
which, after a short discussion, was read a second time and re-
ferred to a committee.
THE NEWSPAPERS' REGULATION BILL.

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL stated that, according to a sugges-
tion which had been thrown out, it was provided that in all
actions brought by informers under the statute, to meet which,
the present bill was introduced, they shonld be entitled, not to
costs, as taxed in the usual manner, but merelytocosts'actually
out of pocket.' (Hear.)
Sir Jolla Campbell and Mr. O'Connell expressed their great
satisfaction with those provisions.
The several clauses of the bill were agreed to.
SABBATH OBSERVANCE BILL.

Mr. POULTER moved for leave to bring in a bill for the better
observance of the Lord's Day. He said that its provisions
should be confined to the prevention of trading, without con-
templating in the remotest degree the restriction 'of proper re,
creation, &c., of any of his majesty's subjects:
Mr- Hawes inquired whether the bill was intended merely to
put down Sunday trading, or to revive with additional aggrava-
tion the whole of the odious bill of Charles H ?
. Mr. PoUUTER replied that it was intended to apply to Sun-
day trading, without reference to any other subject whatever.
Leave given to bring iu the bill.
EXPENSES AT ELECTIONS.
Mr. HUME rose pursuant to notice to call the attention of the
house to the report of the select committee of last session on
election expenses. The committee recommended that electors
should be allowed to vote at the polling place nearest their pri-
vate residences, which he (Mr. flume) approved of, and also
that elections should by increased facilities be terminated in
I one instead of two days.
After a short discussion leave was given to bring in the bill.
BANKRUPT SEQUESTRATION (SCOTLAND.)
The LORD ADVOCATE moved for leave to bring in a bill regu-
lating the sequestration of bankrupts' estates in Scotland.
„Leave given.
BRIBERY, CORRUPTION, AND INTIMIDATION AT ELECTIONS.
Sir GEORGE GREY moved for a committee on this subject.
'The grounds on which he proposed to found his measure were'
the well known disposition to receive .bribes which existed
many boroughs. With respect to intimidation, there were no
statutes atsplving a punishment except iu eases of
.actual riot.
It ought, la the opinion of the learned baronet, to be made
equally criminal to have recourse to threats and menaces to
prevent the conscientious exercise of the elective franchise.
-Official intimidation also prevailed to a great extent, which
should be inquired into. Another of its objects would be to
provide a remedy for the intimidation practised by pitsons of
.7. influence over those who derived their daily _sustenance from
them, and who occupied their tenements. He wished to see
in- something done to check these evils before recourse was had to
the ballot.' If the efforts of the committee should prove ineffec-
tual in their attempt to discover some remedy for these defects,
the advocates of the ballot would be considerably strengtheneu
in that house and io the country.
Sir EDWARD CODDRINGTON most cordially seconded the
motion of his hon. colleague.
Several members addressed the house on this subject.

Afteia few words from Sir G. Grey in reply, the motion was
carried, and a select committee was appointed. The names of
the committee were read over, and there being only six Irish
members appointed on it,
Mr. RuTuvEN propoied to add the name of Mr. O'Connell to
the committee.
Mr. O'CONNELL said that he had not time to attend it.
Sir G. GREY said that it was not from any disrespect to the
-hon. and learned member for Dublin that he had not placed him
on the committee, which he had endeavoured to constitute im-.
partially from members 'on both sides of the house. Ile had,
declined racing the bon. and learned gentleman on the con%.
mittee to ,consequence of the charges which had been presented
against hon. .
Mr. O'CONNELL.—What charges ? Of intimidation ? There
is no such charge in any one of the three petitions which have
been presented to this house.
Sir G. GREY replied that there were certain charges against
the hon. and learned gentleman, of which he ktiew nothing
himself except what had been stated through public channels.
Mr. O'CoNNELL—What channels?
•
Sir G. GREY replied, the newspapers.
Mr. H. LI unitss.—Can any one have failed to read of death's
beads and cross-bones in the newspapers? (Hear, hear.)
Mr. O'CONNELL—(interrupting him with slime warmth)—
I've, beacd a sood deal of calves' heads and jaw-bones in this
hotise. (Nruch laughter, amid which Mr. Hughei resumed his
seat.), .
A.desultoryionversation then ensued upon the subject, which
concluded in Mr. Itiithiren's withdrawing his motion, in conse-
quence of Mt. O'Connell persisting in -declaring that he had
not time to attend on this committee.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.

Before the Speaker called on the hon. -member to proceed
whose motion stood neit'on the list,
Mr. H okra rose, and pointing to the clock, which showed that
midnight had passed more than three-quarters of an hour, moved
that the houSe do now adjourn.
Sir J. CAMPIIL:LL hoped that, as the Sense of the house had
been so recently taken on this subject, the hon. member would
not persist in this motion. Reference had been made to the
practice or America; but hon. gentlemen ought to recollect that
-nine-tentlis of the business which they transacted in that'house
was not transacted in America in Congress, but in the different
assemblies of the states. If the bon. member for Middlesex
were a. member of Congress, he might occupy the floor for ten
days at a time without any impediment to public business.
Mr. CI HuLLeu concurred in the observations of the hon. and
learned member for Edinburgh, and hoped that the majority of
the house would resist the motion of his hon. friend the member
for Middlesex.,
A conversation on the propriety of adjourning at this hour
then took place between Mr. C. Fergusson, Mr. Gladstone, Mr.
O'Connell, Mr. A. Johnstone, and Mr. Sheil, which terminated
in Mr. Hume's tteclaring that he did not wish to stop official
business of mere form, but that he did wish to prevent any new
matter of importance,—such as his hon. and learned friend's
motion on the Jaw of libel—from being introduced at s time of
night when neither the house nor the country could be made
acquainted with it in a satisfactory manner. (Hear.)
On the :understanding that no other business, except of mere
form, should be transacted—
M.r.'O'CoN six r. postponed to another day his notice of mo-
tion for leave to bring in a bill to amend the law Of libel. •
Some returns were then brought up by Mr. diadstOne and
Sir T. F'reeinautle from the Colonial Department and from the
Treasury, after which the house adjourned at one o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS, THURSDAY.
-The Duke of GORDON presented petitions, praying. for fur-
ther accommodation in the churches of Scotland, from parishes
in Renfrewshire, Banffshire, and Dumfriesshire.
On the motion of Lord Ellenboroogh, the bill for indemni-
fying the Governor-general and certain other authorities in In-
dia, for a non-compliance with some technical forms required
by the charter act of last year, 'yas read. a second time.
The Chester Criminals Execution Bill went through a com-
mittee,.and was reported without amendment.
Adjourned.

HOUSE OF. COMMONS, :I:HulitsnA Y •

The Speaker took the chair at three o'clock.
- The SPEAKER acquainted the house, that the sureties in the
case of the petition of Thomas Walker and others, against the
return of the sitting members for the city of Dublin, had failed
to enter into the usual recognisances.
The order for taking the said petition into consideration,
whichstood.for the 19;h instant, Was arcoidingly discharged.
On the motion of Mr. W. Patten,' the Grand Junction Rail-
way Bill was read a second time, 'and ordered to be committed.
TDB S MITHFIELD MAIcKET BILL.
This bill was, on the second reading, lost by 'a majority
against it of 115.

ELt,CTION Or.rtrioNs.
The SPEAKER. said that he had to call the attention of the
house to a letter he had received from Mr. Wallace, enclosing
a petition against the return of the members for Carlow county.
In that letter Mr. Wallace stated that he had presented the
petition at the Crown-office, in Dublin, and that they declined
to receive it there unless it was accompanied by a copy. lie
took it away to have it copied, anti on attending again the same
day he found that the office hours had elapsed, and that the of-
fice was closed. lie had therefore enclosed the petition to him
(the Speaker.) The right hon. gentleman said that under such
circumstances lie would call the attention of the house to or-
der 162.
The Clerk then read the order, which directed that election
, petitions should be presented within fourteen days after the
meeting of parliament, or lodged with the clerk of the crown
in Ireland, who was to preserve a copy of it, and send the ori-
.. ginal to the Speaker.
Smai(aftrseed,thetalbs house would perceive that it was
• directed by the order that the a copy of the petition should be
• - made •out in the Crown-office. (Hear.) In this case, how-
' ever, Mr. Wallace stated that the officer in the Crown-office
refuted to receive the petition unless accompanied by a copy.
How far the facts bore out the statement he (the Speaker) of
course could not say. but it was his duty to call the attention of
the house to the circumstance.
Mr. S. CaawpOtto presented a petithin,• praying for the ex-
tinction of tithes and the reyium donym.
PROPOSED LIMITATION OF THE suPeur..s.
Mr. HUME rose and said—The right hon. baronet opposite
put a question to me yesterday, relative to the motion of which
I gave notice, to limit to three months the votes in committee
• of supply, and I gave him a conditional answer to his inquiry
whether it was intended• to bring on the motion to-morrow. 1
' am now able to state to the right hon. baronet, that haiiing
consulted with those upon this side of the house who I thought
would support that motion, I regret to find' that they do not
concur with me in considering the question sefficiently decisive
of Our want of confidence in the present administration, anti I
have therefore been in iced, with regret, to postpone the mo-
tion of which 1 gaie'uotice respecting the supplies (tritimphant
cheering from the
.ministerial • side of the house), but I du to
with a view to proposing a subsequent motion, tending to show
decisively that the house
.has, no confidence in his majesty's
'ministers. (Cheers from the opposition, and 'counter cheers
and lam.thter from the ministerial,benches.)
Sir B. PEEL.—Is this, then,. the motion of WhiCh.yoti gave me
solemn,notice more than, a week since? (Lurid and protracted
cheering.) I say, is this the motion which you thought
ifincuin-
bent ou youth, give notice of a week.beforehand ? (It enewed
cheering.) • I asked the hon. gentleman Jost r.ight if he in-
tendecito bring forward his proposition fix:limiting the.aUpplies,
pursuant to notice, and the 'hon. gentleman now says he gave
me a- conditional answer. That conditional answer Was, that
the motion would be certainly brought on ( loud cheering), either
by himself or some other hon. member. ("dear, hear," cries
tot" Order," and soine confusion, occasioned by members
rushing into the house, in the midst of which tin s lion. member,
said to be Mr.- Barron, rose and said--" 1 do not know • what
the question is ; there is tin question before the honie.") ' The
right lion, baronet resumed.-1 ask the hon. member fur' Mid-
dlesex• a qucstiiin; the question is, whether that other hon.
aneinber, who was to have taken the hen. gentler:ewes place to-
Morrow, has also abandoned his intention of proposing to limit
the supp!ies (cheers awl laughter from the ministerial side of
the house) and whether the more decisive motion of want of
confidence in his majesty's ministers, of which the hon. gentle-
man talks, is to be brought forward to-morrow ?
Mr. HE:Ms.—I answer, that as far as I am concerned, it will
not be brought forward to-morrow. . (Cheers from the ministe-
rihl side.)

ADMISSION OF LADIES.
Mr. G. BERKELEY gave notice that on the Ist or May he
should move that a portion of the strangers gallery in that
house be set apart for the accommodation of ladies. (A general
laugh.)

GIiNERAL REGISTRATION IN SCOTLAND.
Mr. B. STEAvAnr movectfur leave to bring in A bill to esta-

bfish a unirorn systeinof iegistritiOn of birth's, marftiges, and
deatns in Scotland. Leave given.,

.Ez ue.takttr., , • ,
Gisadti&E moved Tor and ohtainett.kave to Iriing in 'a.
bill to regulate the payment of expenses in cases where an
electiou is.declaied void on the ground of bribery, treating, in-
tiinitiat'ioti, 6r violence. ; - •
Mr. W. Ono mined for leave to bring in a:bill to indeninify.
witnesses giving evidence before parliament in cases of briherv.
The hon. member said that the bill he proposed tointroduce
was an exact copy of that which he brought forward last
Session.

The motion was agreed to.
_ _ _ - DISTURBANCES iN IRELAND.

Mr. DOBBIN moved for a cop) Of the proceedings had at an
investigation, heki at Aritiagh,.of tlip transactions which took
at Keady, in the county of Armagh, between the magistrates,
the police, and oyangemen, On the sth of November last, with
all:thedocuments connected therewith.

Sir 13 . IlaaniNGEsaidThaii-iieCOtld not grant the papers
to which the motion referred, because, as the government had
determined to prosecute the part res concerned in the transaction,
the crown solicitor had taken the papers with him to the Armagh
assizes. Under these circumstances, the hon. member would
perceive that he could not consent to the motion,. the wore par-
ticularly as a judicial proceeding was pending. Motion with-
drawn.

MC. DOBBIN then moved for some other papers connected
with the Armagh transactions, which were ordered.
Colonel LEITH HAY, in moving for a copy of a dispatch to
the Governor of British Guiana from the Colonial-office, an-
nouncing the dissolution of Lord Melbourne's cabinet, observed
that as his Majesty's government had agreed to his motion, he
should confine himself to stating that it was not his intention on
the present occasion to dictate on the practical illustration
which this dispatch would afford of the mischievous effect of the
concentration of the •great. offices of state in one person. ,On
the production Of the papers be. should make such a motion as
would bring this great constitutional question before the house.

CINQUE PORT OFFICES.-PILOTAGE.

Sir THOMIA; TROWBRIDGE moved for a return of all appoint-
inents made during the last ten years, by or under the control
of the Lord War:teed the Cinque Ports, specifying duties,
salaries, fet.s, and other emoluments thereto attached and from
what fund.; derived. •

Mr. HERRIES said that it was the intention of government to
appoint a committee to inquire into the whole subject of pilot-
age throughout the kingdom. Motion agreed to.
Sir THOMAS TROWORIDGR also moved for some returns
respecting Widmer Castle. Ordered.

EMPLOYMENT OP TIIE•MILITARY AT IRISH ELECTIONS.
Mr. M um.iNs moved for copies of any correspondence be-
tween the lord-lieutenants, deputy-lieutenants, or county ina
gistrates of Ireland and. the Irish
,government, previous' to
had during the late elections, with reference tolhe distribution'
and employment of the military force, and to apprehended ob.;
4tructiouf of the freedom. of election. After a short conversa
tion the motion was agreed to. .
•

ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, in moving for leave to bring in
this bill, said that the leading object of the bill was to consoli-
date some 300 or 400 courts, which were dispersed all over the
country, and whiCh Were incompetent to perform those func-
tions of justice which had been assigned to theM, and:concen-
trate the jurisdiction in ecclesiastical matters in one court, to'
sit either in London or wherever his majesty should be pleased
to appoint. It was also intended to invest the new ecclesiastical
court with additional
.powers, iu order that there might be a
more effectual.administration of justice in ecclesiastical Matters
which came under its cognizance, while its jtitisdiction over
other matters which had been made the subject cif complaint
since the house met would be entirely removed. After souse
further observations he concluded by moving
,for leave,
Leave given.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL next moved for leaie to bring in
a bill for the better maintenance of the discipline of the Church
of England. The object of the bill was to. procure an effectual
adininistratiOn Of the laws in every diocess, to have the proceed-
ings in the court properly conducted, a due investigation, and
a speedy execution of the sentence. It was not necessary 'that
he should go into details; he had, in speaking of the preceding
measure, described fully the principles on which they. proceeded.
But he could not sit down after what had fallen fiion the hon.
gentleman opposite without in a fair spirit stating what had
been his share, and that of the government with which he had
the honour of being connected in that measure. He had already
said that the report on which they were now acting had pro-
ceeded from a commission issued in January, 1830, renewed in
July of the same year, and which reported in February, 1632.
Now, he neither blamed the government nor the commission
for not immediately bringing forward the measure which had
been since founded on the report. But at the same time he
might be permitted to state the fact,- that the whole of that ses-
sion, the whole of 1833 and of 1834, was suffered to pass away,
and yet no measure, founded on the report, was brought under
the cognizance of the house.. (Hear, hear.) Ile did not, he,
wished to ba understood, consider it at all a matter of so much
importance as some. people might,'from whence a good measure
*wilt proceed. The great points to he regarded were, first,
that the naeamre was worthy of support, and had been well con-
sidered; and next, that it should be brought forward as early
as possible. He was not aware that hon..gentlemen opposite
would be unwilling to share the ,praise of. the introduction of
those measures, and he was sure the hoilie would be anxious to
give the-praise where it Was due—in the first place, to those by
whom those commissioners were appointed; and, secondly, •to
those right rev. and learned commissioners. who had taken such
pains to:prepare the report; nor was he unwilling to share the
praise with the late government fur having carried on the in-
quiry, but he must also lay claim for share in this, for the go-
vernment with which he had the honour to act, for the readiness
with which they had taken up the subject and prepared this
bill, and fur the disposition which it evinced that they would not
oppose practical reorms.
After some obs.trvations from Sir John Campbell, Sir
Peel, Mr Hume, and Dr. Lushiugton, leave was given to bring
in the bill.
COUNTY EXPENSES (IRELAND).
Mr. SULLIVAN It )ved for au account of the amount of the
money in the hands of the treasurer of ends county and County'
of a 'city in Ireland in each of the years 1833 and 1834, after the
*pa'.> ments•in each spring and summer assizes, .in,l OctaLer 5.,.-
sions,•iu those years, and after Spring assizes, 18.35; and also
of the presentments of which each balance in baud is composed,
distinguishing those unapplied and disallowed; also the number
and amount of advances made on presentments, and the rate of
interest charged thereon.—Ordered.

POSTMASTERS IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND.
Mr. WALLACE moved for a return showing the appointments
of deputy postmasters and postmistresses (if ant) in Great Bri-
tain and Ireland during the last five years, ending with the Ist
of. January, 1835, with their names, and those of the towns. they
have been appointed to; also their yearly salaries and any
other sources of emolument, so as to show the yearly income of.
each,.also the dates of their appointments • distinguishing those
who have been promoted from the general post offices of Lon-
don, Dublin, or Edinburgh; also the names of the postmasters-
general who have appointed the said deputy Postmasters.—
Ordered.

NATIONAL EDUCATION.--(IRELAND.)
Mr. A. Jon N STONE moved, pursuant to his notice, an address
.to the crown for returns respecting national education ( Ireland),
in pursuance of the order of the 13th of "Slay, 1834; and, its
•teldition, a list of all such books as are distributed or used under
the direction of the board, with the full titles, thereof, and a list
of the schools in which the whole or any of such books are used
as class-books.; .also returns-of the number. of. Roman Catholic
children, of children of the church of England and Ireland, and
of Protestant children of other denominations in each of the
schools under the superintendence of the board; and that the
commissioners state the amount and particulars of any grants
made by them to schools connected with or under the superin-
tendence of any nunnery,. monastery, or other religious institu-
tions or houses, and also of any grants or schools kept in Roman.
Catholic chapels, or buildings forming part thereof, or contigu-
ous thereto, or within the precincts of the said chapels, with the
places where such schools are situate. The. hon. member said
that in moving this be could assure hon. gentlemen at that (the
opposition) side of the house that he had no wish to disparage
any religious party. He.thought that as they had now a new
parliament, the sense of the house ought to' be taken on, this
Important question, and that before that was done the) ought to
have full information before them.
After a short discussion the motion was agreed to, and the
returns ordered.
Mr. W. E. GLADSTONE moved to discharge the address which
had been agreed to yesterday, on the motion of the hon. member
for Weymouth (Mr. Fowell.Buxton), and to substitute another
in lieu thereof. The hon. member stated that the object of the
!notion was merely to alter the address so as to prevent a second
return of documents already on the table of the house.
Mr. S. Rice begged to take this opportunity of asking the
hon. member opposite a question upon a subject of great import-
ance, and which at present occupied the attentienof a
.consider-
ahle.portiou.uf.the, people,pohis _country. alluded to the
state of religions instruction in British colonies. 'baring
the time he (Mr. Rice) had the honour to hold the seals of the
colonial department, a number of circulars' were issued for the
purpose or proenriug the fullest information relative to this
ighly importaut matter, but at the time be left office no return
had been made to those circulars. Ile therefore wished to .know
from the hon. gentlernan, first, whether the answers had 'yet
been received, and next, if there would be any difficulty in lay-
ing the information upon the table of the house.
Mr. W. E. GLADSTONE said, that information, had beenf•re-
- ceived that tbc_returns were.on their may. Indeed. saule- °ft"-
papers were included in the address of which he had juk moved
the amendment, though he thought full details in parishes and
districts would not be afforded, but at all events a tabular sum-
mary would be laid before, the house as speedily as possible,
The motion was then carried, and the address as amended
agreed to.
Sir T. FerusraNTLE brought up the report of the newspapers'
regulation bill, which was agreed to.
On the motion of • Mr. liumE, the folleling returns were
ordered :—An account of the net expense or charge incurred
• for the maintenance of the college at HaileYbury, in 1833 and
1834, after deducting the sums paid by the students, and stating
the number of students educated at the college in each half-
year; also, an account of the present amount of capital of the
Poplar fund of the East India Company, and of the niimber of
pensioners in classes receiving allowances from it, and the 'rate
of such allowances, and also a copy of the rules and regula-
tions as to the claimants un that•fund; also, an account of the
additional annual expense or charge on the revenue of India
actually incurred,. nr to be incurred by the enactments. of the
aciof his present Majesty for the new government of Agra the
law commissiomers, and other establishments and offices created
under that bill; and also, for a return of the estimated expense
to be incurred by the Bast India Company. and by the British
government, for the diplomatic mission to I'ersia, stating the
names of the:persons. apaointed, the office, and the allowance of
every kind to he' received. by each, and of the estimated ex-
pense of each mission. ~ . .
The other:orders .of the day
.were then disposed of, and on
'the motion of, Mr. BROTHERTON the house adjourned 'at a
,quarter past 12 o'clock.

• 1-1,01.15 E OF LORDS,. FittnAY.
On the motion for lhe'third'reading of the Chestetcrimmals
epcution bill,
I •
• •
• • The 'Marquis of Wts?ritiNsthrt Complained that the'bill con-
, tainedproisions which bdre'reiv hard on"the city of Chester.
it' was unfair that the eXpense'Of those executionv4should be
`thrown entirely on the city. Fortneilv' a swn of•money was
allowed 16 the sheriffs byllie,county whin executions occurred,
and some arrangement of that nature ought. now to beinde
'vrith refererice to 'the *city. ;le tfierefore should call on the
noble and reared !Ord on filet-cools:R.1; to reconsider that part of
the bill. The noble and learned hod might frame some clause
t 3 meet this objection, and ler that purpose he wished the third
reading to he deferred till Monday.
The Lou D A kELLoic said that no new charge'was thrown
on the city of Chester by this bill. The charge was the saute
that the city had heretofore borne. He saw no reason, there-
fore, for poStponing the third reading of the bill, especially as
circumstances rendered it necessary that it should receive the
royal assent on Monday.
In answer to-en observation 'made by the Margnis of West-
niinster,
The Limn CHANCELLOR skid that the sum spent in litigation
of this subject amounted to ten times mere than the fee simple
of the charge that would be incurred by the city.
The bill was then read a third time.