The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-09-03 00:00:00

£822 17

Balance in favour of refinery
Add profit from revenue BB 4 8

Total balance for refiner £lOO 6 10
But the value of 7 cwt. of Sugar wasted should
be added, equivalent to about £lB 4s.
EXPERIMENT VI.
Montserrat Sugar at 295. weight 307 cwt. 7lbs.,}
.) . 2 92
price, duty included

Drawback payable on Extracts, 30s. ly els t.
Refinery Extracts .15 Sale.
Cwt. qrs. lbs. £ s.
113 1 20 Double loaves at 3ll '
98 3 19 Single 3 4
28 0 26 Bastards 2 3
40 1 1 Treacle 1 3

6 cwt. 402 13 6
0 316 10 10
0 60 14 3
0 46 6 0

£826 4 41

Balance in favour of refinery
Add profits from revenue 92 8 9

Total balance in favour of refiner. £lO3 10 44

To this sum should be added the value of 9 cwt. of

Sugar wasted, £23 17s.

(Signed)

.• _
ANDREW URR

We have here certainly the advantage of knowing,
that Dr. TIRE has spread his experiments over 1473 cwts.
of sugar, a quantity sufficient, in all conscience, for pur-
poses of trial. We are also favoured with the products
from each class, leaving the loss upon the several gross
quantities to be assumed in the differences between the
whole quantities operated upon, and the aggregates of
the various extracts. When we have obtained informa-
tion on these two points, and even that is given but
loosely, every thing else deserving of that name is in
vain sought for. The remainder of what he is pleased
to term his " general abstract," is a confused mass of
erroneous statements, decided omissions, and estimates
of which self-bewilderment must have been with him the
guiding rule. To enlighten sugar refiners on his cal-
culationS is unnecessary ;--to make even the attempt for
the information of the uninitiated would be a task that
we are but little inclined at this moment to impose upon
ourselves. A second edition of the Doctor's abstract,
" revised and corrected," may save us the labour of here •
after undertaking such a task.
We should not, perhaps, have given ourselves the
trouble to. discuss this abstract at all, were it not that such
part of it as is really intelligible bears
.us out in all that
we have ever said upon the subject of refining foreign
sugars. To prove this we will, in the first place, exhibit
our abstract of Dr. URE'S gross statement of the quan-
tities of the different products obtained, in the shape of
a calculation showing every part of the extracts in one
cwt. of each sort of sugar employed. This we will do
by placing them, not in the order of the experiments,
but in the order of the largest quantities of the more
valuable products yielded by each kind of sugar. It
stands thus :

PRODUCTS.
1:5..: 4,,.; c.; P. -I' e j
k 8 Kinds of Sugar operated ,r, 't,. '9O Bas- ..,, 0
a
PE 11 upon. g d .. 5 tards. a ii.
A ,-5. cl-1 g
OW _ --- _
-
No. lbs oz lbs oz lbs oz fibs oz. IL . lbs
4 Brazil cloyed 52 1 29 6 11 1 15 12 :, 12 112
6 Montserrat 4l 6 36 2 10 5 14 11 9, 8 112
5 Jamaica (strong)
Damaged Brazil clayed,
2 / and ordinary Jamaica, } 271
90
5400 11
1176
07
2221 6 7
9
6 6 8
111
Lll2
equal quantttics _
1 ,Damaged Brazil clayed . • • •
3 Jamaica (ordinary) 7 10 54 7 21 10 23 4 5 1 112
Total of 6 experiments, 170 12 635.12 93 1 112 4 40 3 672
Average results 2Bll, 42110 151 8 18 11 z 6 11 112

In order to prove the accuracy of our former opinions,
or, rather, to show that, in the sense in which we have
ever discussed the subject, our declarations have been
within the limits of fact, we need only refer to the first
line of the preceding table; where it will be seen that
the fourth experiment of Dr. URE, (that upon Brazil
clayed sugar,) presents, as the result of its refining,
811bs. 7oz. of double and single loaves for every 1121bs.
of original matter; and taking the value of double
loaves to single lumps, in the ratio of the drawback
allowed on the former as compared with that given upon
the latter, which is as 435. 3d. to 365. 91d. per cwt. ex-
ported, it follows, that the 811bs. 7oz. of the aggregate
of the two sorts is equivalent to 901bs. 9oz. per cwt. of
single lumps, the latter being the standard by which the
acts in force are regulated; and as, by the existing law,
611bs. of single refined sugar is the maximum required
to be exported for every 1121bs. of British Colonial raw
or Muscovado sugar refined, it follows that, if the acts
9th Geo. 4. c. 93, and the Ist Will. 4. c. 72,—the two
acts permitting the refining of foreign sugars on the
conditions therein respectively set forth—had now te-
mained in force, it would have been competent to any
person engaged in that business to have exported the
611bs. of refined lumps required by law, and to have thrown
upon the British market 2911b5. for every cwt., or 5901b5.
per ton of foreign sugar so refined, which, in point of fact,
would only have paid the duties that so much bastard sugar
and treacle would have paid in this market, being the com-
modities which the exporter must procure (whether from
foreign or British sugar) to make up the respective propor-
tions required by the laws to be exported as the equivalents
of the 1121bs. of foreign sugars permitted to be refined by

he acts last quoted. v It is on this single fact, and on the
njustice to the British planter that would have resulted
'rom the extension of the acts 9th Geo. IV. and Ist
William IV., that we have ever based our observations on

the refining of foreign sugars. It is not that we advo-
cated, or. even contemplated, the -erclusion of foreign
sugars from the refineries for the purposes of exportation;
but we did then, as we still should, maintain that the
only just course was to enforce the export of the actual
quantities produced, of whatever kind, by the process;
and not merely to -require that quantities equivalent to
those demanded by laws framed originally with reference
exclusively to British plantation sugars,—and that even
when the process was imperfectly understood,—should be
deemed to satisfy the provisions of those laws which
never contemplated that a commodity already half re-
fined in its original process of manufacture should enjoy
equal advantages as regards the actual proportions de-
signated in their provisions. We are not here inquir-
ing whether the proportions required by the laws in
force, as regards even British plantation sugars, are or
are not the actual quantities which those sugars are ca-
pable of yielding, under the improved process introduced.

:‘hat is an affair for the consideration of the higher
,owers. But we fearlessly maintain, that to place the

last mentioned sugars, sent in a crude state, in compa-
rison with those of foreign colonies, conveyed to us in a
state of demi-refinement, would not be to deal out justice
to our own colonists. With this qualification, and with
the express stipulations to be deduced from the foregoing
argument, nothing can be further from our intention
than to throw impediments in the toy of extensive im-
ports of sugar from the Brazils, Cuba, or any of the
eastern possessions of this or other countries.

Now that the reformed Parliament has been sent to
its account, we expect to be permitted to breathe more
freely, and canvass its acts and pretensions with more
vigour and less restraint.

The representatives of a nation such as this, to be
worth anything at all, must be strictly independent.
They must not only be men of superior research, and
more comprehensive knowledge, and more practical in-
formation than the generality of men—they must also be
honest and untrammelled. To be practically useful they
must not only be competent to decide upon all measures
for the public good, but they must also be above mini-
sterial influence, the favours of the court, the patronage
of the treasury, and the jobs of the government offices.
It is only by men of true independence and of consistent
principles, the result of mature consideration, that a great
commercial nation like this can be safely or righteously

governed.
When the reform bill was the mania of the day, we were
assured by its noisy advocates that it would create a more
healthy constituency, extinguish, with the, small bo-
roughs, bribery and corruption of every kind, and pro-
cure for the country the services of its ablest and incor-
ruptible patriots.
Well, the bill has been tried—the constituency has
been extended—the house has sat, and its patriotism and
talent have been fairly put to the test. It would be a
work of supererogation to detail all the evidences of in-
capacity, of venality, of servility, or of downright disho-
nesty, which might be brought to bear against the lead-
ing delegates of the reformers. Their conduct is too no-
torious to require any formal repetition of the facts.
Jobbing in every department of the state has, within the
last twelve months, been carried on to an extent unknown
to former times. It is not here or there that some dirty
transaction has been committed. The offence is general
and all-pervading. We have heard a great deal about
economy ; but this economy has itself been a job. No
change has taken place in any public office, except for
the purpose of dismissing some old and faithful servant,
to make room -for some hungry dependant or needy
hack of the ministry. Many changes have taken place
in the law department, but we defy any man to contradict
us when we assert that every change has given an in-
crease of patronage to the LORD CHANCELLOR—SUCh an
amount of patronage as no other Chancellor ever pos-
sessed or ought to possess. The reform bill itself was so
contrived as to increase the patronage of the RUSSELLS,
PETTYS, DURHAMS, and the Whig aristocracy. The
factory bill has, in the hands of Lord ALTHORP, been
as-rank a job as any ever concocted in the worst of
times. The new corporation bill is intended to be a
job of the same character. In short, there is no end to
the baseness and venality in contemplation under the
name of amendment and reform.

_____
Now, this being admitted, (for no man except a
.hanger-on or a toad-eater will be hardy enough to deny
it,) we nevertheless are disposed to throw it overboard
altogether, merely for the sake of the argument. We
shall take for granted that reformed members of the new
parliament are all pure as unsunned snow—that minis,-
tors are as immaculate as men can be—that Lord AL-
Tapia, is a statesman of consummate ability—that Lord
GREY has no Greylings fastened on the public purse—
that Sir JAMES GRAHAM is an upright and consistent
politician—that Lord PALMERSTON is not a shabby turn-
coat or a dunce, and that Mr. POELETT Trromsox is as
honest as any man in Manchester, including Mr. MARK
1 PIIILIPS. _ _ .

We concede all this merely for the sake of the proposi-
tion ; still we contend that even if it were all true as the
words of holy writ, the ministers and the parliament are
nevertheless unworthy of any confidence. It is not for-
gotten that on every important question during the late
session, these.pure reformers, these able patriots, these
pledged members, proved themselves to be the vilest
slaves of the ministry—their very creatures—whom the
wag of a finger could make vote that to be white on the
Monday which they had voted to be black on the previous
Saturday. They did not appear, as a majority, to have
any mind or opinion of their own. If by mistake they
happened to pass a sensible measure, they were speedily
whipped in by Lord DUNCANNON to eat their words and
revoke their sentiments.
The cause of this abject servility might be the change
which public opinion had undergone shortly after the
meeting of parliament. It was soon apparent enough
that the great mass of the people, including all the
wealthy and intelligent classes,. had no confidence what-
ever in their new representatives. This the latter began
to. see, and they clung to the skirts of the minister
in the very dread of a dissolution and a second elec-
tion. This, it is true, evinced the sagacity of old rats
and a trifling share of worldly wisdom. But this is no
argument in their favour to be addressed to their con-
stituents. What now influences their public conduct,
and decides their vote, is the strOngept reason for calling
upon the KING to dissolve the Parliament.