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that he was as anxious to forward that roeisfui,
any other perfon could poffibly ibe. but that he h►
waited Co long oo account of the abfenee of the Chan-
calor of the Exchequer. However, as there did not
amsr to be any ether bufinefs then before tht,
Houfe, and as the Honourable Member had expret
fed a with that the quefilon &sold be put, he hoolff
then move that the Order of the Day for the Hoof*
• into a Committee on the Petitions of the rid:
Linen Manufaaurers in Ireland be then rota-
'•ditto a Committee of the whole Houfe.--Tbis
*hired ; and jun as the Houfe had refolved itfelf
Iliao the Committee. Mr. Pitt entered:
Mr. FOSTER then fisted the hardhips to which
the petitioners would be fubjedied, if the foot end a
half per teat. duty was continued. They only
-111.01 t the high/ad the Engin taaaaradueers
enabled top in the Oreign markets epos eq
Amin frith other nations, and-that'' *old trait the
re& to the excellence of their fahrim The trade had.
n fait, detained Co much with% diefe few yeses, that
bethought it would be fitter to give them a bplincy
on exportation, for the encouragement of the maw
Whim and commerce of the country, than to liy en
any additional duty. He only *Med, at prefent to'
extend the benefit of the pnopofed law to the aide
with America, the Wen Indies, Spain and P°11.110.1
and that the traders of both theft countries Mount
participate in thofe benefits in the foreign markets.
Sir ROBERT PEEL declared that he &Gold be
very forry to oppofe any indulgence which was is-
tended to be granted to that very ufeful branch of
hilt maanfadure. He was apprelienfive, howevet,
that blame a trade which might in future trench to.
much upon the interens of another branch. (the Cat
too Menufaeures) • that Parliament might pethapi
hereafter be induced to pot a cheek upon the former
for the encouragement of the latter.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT Lid, that he could noires
'the poffibility of the Cotton trade being injured by
the t of the Linen Manufeaure.
Mr. POBIER obferved, that the duty was laid on
Co differently match of theft articles, that there could
leat be any fair consarifon between them. Geode-
I men famed to thi that they were running a race
,together; bet fur his part he only withed that the
articles of commerce of the United Kingdom,' lhoskd
1r fairly into competition with thofe of other =hone,
a the Foreign Market. He did not ever with to he
any race run between thernfelvesbut the fair raintif,
liberality.
Mr. ORMSBY and Mr. DAWSON followed with
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fentiments nearly to the fame effell.
The Petitions were then paged through the Cow-
-1 nate,. The Haste renamed, the Report was brought ,
op and agreed to. and leave given to bring in a Bill
to exempt Irith Linens from duty on exportation.—
Mr. Totter. Mr. Alexander. Sir John Newport, and
other IriteMenthers were ordered to prepare and
bring in the fame.
Mr. FULLER moved, that an humble Addrefs
be prefented to his Majeny. praying that he will be
ssoit gracionlly pleated to order, that Copies of all
kelt papers as bad been received 4y his Majetty's
refpriting the late Treaty. foppofed to have
been entered into with General Deffalines, and alfo.
of all the correfpondence that has taken place between
him and General Forbes. .
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ad-
mitted the fag, that Come overtures had been made.
but obferved, that he was not prepared now to lay
any papers upon the fuhjed before the Houle.
With this explanation the former Honourable
Member expreffed himfeif fatisfied, and there the
matter dropped.
DITINCS OT TNI COUNTRY.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved, that the Order of the Day for the iecond
reading of the Bill for the General Defence of the
Empire be then read. On the Tuition being put
from the Chair,
Mr. CALCRAFT raid, that it 'gave him the
greaten fatisfaBion when he firft heard that ouch a
meafure was in the contemplation of his Majeny's
Minikes. Ever fince the great acceflion of neength
' which had been obtained by the adminillration of the
country, (for he could by no means agree to calling
it a new Adminiltration), be confeffed. that he look-
ed up to them in expeaation of tome important una-
rm for the defence of the nation, or for the more
alive and I carrying on of war. After all
that he had heard, however, about new meafures for
'dive exertions-saafter all that he had heard about
the extenfive plan and formidable pollure of defence
for the country, and after all that he expeoed
from the superior talents of the Right Honourable
Gentleman, he fairly admitted that he felt hinsfelf
extremely difappointed at finding that the meafure
which was fubmitted to the Houfe was nothint bet-
ter than a fubditute for the army of referee, the aft
for railing which it bad been thought neceffary to
fuifiend. Only fixteen thoufaud men more could
poffibly have been expcfted to be railed by that ad
~and by filling up the deficiency of the militia, that is
to fay. coon for the former and 7000 for the latter
Bet when the Right Honourable Gentleman bad
taken another mode of railing the men ; he bad
thought proper to retort to the mode which had been
adopted in the year 5795 for railing wen to recruit
the navy, that is by the means of the ,pari& officers.
How could it pollibly be expected that the pennies
would have it in their power to bring men forward
by this means, when they could not be moved at the
time that the ballot was hanging over their head?
Betides this, there was an inconvenience, and an in-
confinency in the very foundation of the plan ; for a
man was to be allowed to go only from one certain
battalion into another equally certain. The one mull
ofcnurfe, from its nature, be in Great Britain, Ire-
land, &c. whereas the other might perhaps be in the
Eall Indies. He really did not underhand what
were the grounds of the Right Hon. Gentleman's
hopes of fuccefs in aecomplithing there objetis with-
out great expence, delav, and inconvenience. The
regulations with refreo to the par& officers who

ovoid haie terra& matt he thought could not by
any !Deans prevent them into giving, if not as high
bounties as before, at lean filch an advance beyond
'the bounty allowed as .Would brinkfi,jiiter;wtein the
amount of the fine which they won ' have
`to pay for deficiencies. He thought is • fee it
would turn out to he an unequal tax upon one pert
lof the community, for the ptsrpofe of parse what
0* to be levied bf a cast An
An
Itlea. Gentleman (Hr. 5011). whom be trbd,
sot then fee in his plarA eery properly compar-
'ed this new levy to that dike goon twee in 1795.
Their numbers were then very as far as he
recolleited, thoo¢ be amid not rashly Rate the,
antouat of their curacy. What hollowed implaset
facceediogicar was too boobs lOW bee,
[maul ofrowGendemosin Ala Ifewiew leofeee/th
namely ' to *Robe the particulars at WO
calamity. easy generally biased that the,
whole of that was to be etcrilsed to the ilellgs
of she quota men Mate lii inftaace. He had heard.
the contrary, however, stetted, and thereon hi'
would not be poUtive ; but this be would fay, that,
from the very manner in which they were. collate‘
there were no fet of men mere likely to be the ring. .I
leaders 'of a tranfitaion that was fo contrary to the
Atonal feelings of every &hi& Gino, and every M.
ttb Sadler. They were well known to be the vwp
fent% and gleanings of the with in which each r0.,1
fp&vely was railed. The quelico, **reface, was]
limply ail, whether the Right Hon. Gentleman MC
any (mirky, or even any well grounded , hope, thaa'
his military quota men would be.of a better denri
deo than the naval quota men of mos He w
with the Honourable Gentleman to take alto into his
contoderation the propriety of mastitis it part able
prepoltion that &Idlers mould be eobiled to di
amount fpeeified for a Unshed time, but for
ferrite with refpest to (pace. This he thoughtg
induce men the more readily to enter,. and
more efe&ually aawer the .purpoles of the
If the Wei Indies was oxide a diftioia part of oar
military fervics, be thought that that alb wooklim
voindocement to men to enter. It was his °Finis
that by thefe means the full gawky of
.be reallny obtained without running the
had already deferibed, and without the extraortroapty
trouble and unequal prefure of expence which was
likely to be created by the pram Bill. He *iald
not uefpafs longer on the time of the Hoofs the,
while he declared that he felt it to be his slaty be
thofeseafons mon arenuoaly to oppole the tweing
of the bill now before the Hoofs.
Sir R. BUXTON denied that the men to ba railed'
by the regent Bill could be fairly •ana aotits
quota men of ryoe. A very material Ma' Mos was
to be fees in the manner in which the two bodies of
men were railed. The quota men were railed at the
expence of the pariah with the dread of a very heavy
penalty if they were not raifed within a limited period;
the print officers, therefore, had recourfe to extra-
ordinary mean to obtain them. The men to be railed
by the prefent 511 were to be raifedat the expence of
Government—the pariffi officers were only made the
inftruments of railing them ; and if any duty was im-
poled without a fine being impofed in Pat of failure
or negled to perform that duty, there was but little
ufe in laying that the duty fhould be performed by
one perfon more than another. There was befides
this, a great good to be fora in this meafure, which
the Hon. Gentleman had teemed entirely to over-
look ; the ballot which formerly excited to much ap-
prehenfion in the minds of the public, would be now
put an end to. The effeas of the Bill would not be,
as formerly, to throw the burden entirely on the poor,
but would place them on an equal footing with the
rich, as far as the operation of the Bill went. From
a due confederation of the Rate of the country, from
the abfolute neceftity which he faw for reifies an ad-
ditional military force at the paint period, and from
the excellence of the plan propofed, he Mould give it
his moll hearty fupport.
Mr. YORKE declared, that in riling on the pre-
fent occafion it was not at all his intention to give
any thing like rations oppofition. It was a princi-
ple which he Ihoold always hold, that it was the duty
of every one to fupport the Government, if be was
fatisfied that their rneafures were calculated to pro-
mote the interefts of the country. Confillently.
however, with the opinions which he had formerly
delivered refpeding the defence of the country, and
the idea which he bad formed of this Bill, from the
(Dort confideration which he had been able to give it,
he could not afford it his rapport. Some parts of
the meafure he certainlyldid approve of, while others
were of a nature which did not teem to him to be en•
tertained by the Houle. He confeffed that the idea
of calling men for limited fervke might, if properly
organized, be produdive of the greateft advantage ;
and he allowed that filch was the fyftem adopted by
all the great military powers of Europe. Still the
pradicability of recruiting the army effectually by
this plan, was a matter of doubt. A fcheir.e, in•
deed, of reparating colonial from general service had
been in agitation, and 'educed to pra6uce mig:it
produce very important confequences- Till, howe-
ver, that was effected, we moil look to other means
of keeping up our regular military force. Till curb
a meafure was brought about, he did not fee how, in-
dependent of ballot, this supply conla be regularly
obtained. It was never attempted ii any of the
countries in Europe to keep tip the army by volun-
tary offers of fervice. In Auftria. io Proffia, in
France. in Ruffia, compulfory mesfum were uni-
formly reforted to. and a ballot more or leis eaten-
five was employed for the porpofe. Wi‘hout fuch
a meafure. the military eftablifknent of thefe coun-
tries could never have been preferved ; and, in the
prefent circumftances of this country ballot, was
equally neeettary to keep up fuch so army as our
prefent natation insperioully demanded. As a friend
to the Militia fyfteos. as well as to the Army of Re-
feree, be could not but think that the ballotting fyf.
tem ought to have been retained. But to diredt his
olderrotices mac pat ticularly to the quatioa, he de-