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would not now be engaged in the work they had in for a long time unofficered. The other promefia4
hand. He had been mush surprised- by some pas., would be found to be pf Midshipmen who had p • ,
sages in a work calltela Treasury work, but not one, their examination for Lieutenants u pward sof six years;l
he was sure, of the Treasury of the present day.—, having thereby been twelve years unprompted. The
The taloa it was—" The Crisis of the Affairs of others would be Lieutenants and Captains of Fla
Spain." This work told them to consider what would Ships coming home from foreign stations. With r
be the conduct ofFrance—vihat the conduct of Aus. gard to the reduction on the whole Estimate our,
tria, were we to take part with Spain. But what did the last, it was £220,000, chiefly derived from the
we care for what France and Austria might do iu wear and tear, and victuals. Of the afranp-,ethent,
any particular case as regarded this country ? As to with regard to the Marines, be would- reserve what
France, he wished it to be borne in mind that we had he had to say for the motion of the Hon. Member.
beaten the French on the very same ground already— . The Report was then agreed to.
(Hear, hear).—And as to Austria, let her look to IRISH YEOMANRY CORPS.
her.ltalian Provinces, now ripe for revolt, and which, Mr. GOULBURN postponed his motion for the
every well-informed man knows, are ready to break second reading of this Act to the 6th of March.
out upon England holding up her finger in token of Mr. HUME observed, that unless it was the in-
assent—(Hear , hear). tention of Government to put down the system. of)
Mr. Secreiary CANNING 'thought the House Orange Lodges and their connexion with the Teo-
might expect it of him that he should take some part manry Corps, he should consider it his day to op-
in the discussion on the topic which had incidentally pose the Bill in every stage, so much did he consider
arisen. But a few words, however, did he think he these Corps to disturb the peace of Ireland.
was called •on to say; for amongst other qualities Mr. DAWSON would be happy to meet the
which had been attributed to the Government by the charges of the Honourable Member, whenever he
Hon. Member who had just sat down, prudence for- chose to bring them forward. In the meantime, he
bade at this moment much discussion ; and he was begged to say, he considered it an unfair imputation
exceedingte anxious to repress it if he could—(Hear, on the great majority of these Corps and Lodges to
hear).—He must however say, that he should be say they disturbed the peace of the country. .
acting unfairly were he not to reject any praise of Mr. JAMES GRATTAN expressed his concur-
fered to him as having acted with a new spirit, and rence with what had fallen from the Honourable
upon novel principles, for he had found embodied in Member for Aberdeen. He believed it was well
a State Paper, in the Office which he had now the known one of these Corps had done considerable
honour to fulfil, that very course laid down, and those mischief in one part of Ireland.
very principles promulgated, a faithful adherence to The second reading of the Irish Arms All was also postponed
which_ had gained him the approbation of that to the 6th of March.
House—(Hear, hear).—With respect to the other OUTRAGE ON-THE LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND.
compliments, the House would see that it was im- Mr. BAOWNLOW moved for copies of certain
possible he could allow himself then to be led into Papers respecting law proceedings which had lately
the consideration of them—(Hear, hear).—He would taken p'a.:e in the Court of King's Bench in Ireland.
only add, that all discussion was inexpedient, whilst As this motion was closely connected with the con-
there remained a hope that what all Europe desired duct of the Irish Government, he thought himself
might be accomplished, viz. a tranquil result; and bound to state, that inquiry into the constitutional
that at the present moment, besides these general legality of that conduct was his sole object in bring-
seasons, there were circumstances which rendered it ing it forward, without at all anticipating convic-
peculiarly requisite that they should abstain from dis- tion. He wished to say no more at present, as he
cession. He was, therefore, glad that the postpone- understood there would be no objection to the pro•
merit of the motion relative to the Foreign Enlistment duction of these documents. He then moved for
Bjgbhad been decided on ; because it :would be ins. 1. Copies of the Committals of such persons as were engaged
rioteaotrreconspindcy nu the 14th of December last,
pbssible to go into discussion without bringing to atnt thee apittin
bear upon it some of those topics it was desirable to 2. Copies of the Indictmeemr s for the said alleged riot or
avoid. It was, however, but justice for him to avow, conspiracy, preferred to- the Grand Jury of Dublin, upon the'
indeed it would be ungrateful not to say, that in tit of January last, and the finding of the Jury thereon-4Tbe
Power
conductin the otiation with the Foreig s laosrtdwordsd. wereadded at the suggestion of Mr. Seam &cal.—
g negn
alluded to thus far, he had been mainly aided by the 3. rCopy of the Ex-officio Information on the same subject,'
forbearance shewn by that House—( Cheers). which was tried in the Court of King's Bench by the Attorney.
The Petition was read and ordered to be printed. General of Ireland.
COLONEL WOOD. Upon the SPEAKER putting this last motion,
Mr. CURWEN presented a Petition from a Gentle- Mr. PLUNKET'f said, he was desirous of claim-
man of the name of Wood, formerly in the 34th ing the attention of the House for a very few minutes,
though Regiment, complaining of having been unjustly de-
ough not with any intention of offering the least
opposition to the motion of the Hon. Member. He
prived of his Military Commission, and praying for
concluded it to be the Hon. Member's intention to
an inquiry into his case, and such relief as the merits
of it should seem to deserve. follow up his present motion for Papers with some,
Lord PALMERSTON said, the case of this Gentle-
ulterior proceedings, respecting what has recently
nein was that of an individual who was a public
happened at Dublin ; that was the legitimate period
debtor, his Commission having been sold for the
for discussing the conduct and the acts connected,
liquidation of -his debt. This defalcation arose from with what bad so taken place. This was merely a l
motion for Papers, and it was neither his intention
his being engaged iu two bails, abOut the year 1796.
to invite, nor to commence debate upon such an occa-
upon one of which he was a debtor to the extent of
5,8261. and upon the other tathe amount of 4,2071. sion. But he rose to express his extreme satisfaction
These debts had been ascertained in the time of Mr. at finding that, at last, this question was to come re-,
gularly forward—to express his extreme satisfactiop
Windham to his entire satisfaction, and upon his re-
commendation the Commission had been sold. He that it was placed in the hands of an Hon. Member
who discharged his duty so well to the House and to
(Lord Palmerston)* finding that there was upwards of
the Country upon all. occasions. He had no corn.
2,0001. due, and that this Gentleman had really no
plaint whatever to make upon that ground; but be
property, had taken on himself to relinquish the
debt. He believectlie had been a Member of that did feel in some degree surprised at the duty falling
-
to the share of the Honourable Member ; because,
House twice, "and A he had not • thought proper to
urge Ns own claims, he (Lord PalmerstoOfelt con-
upon a for Mer occasion, when a question was put to
him upon the subject of the Catholic Question, a
firmed in they. kw he had taken of the justice of the case.
Right Hon. Baronet thought proper to enter upon,
Colonel DAVIES said, that Colonel Wood had
thii subject when he (Mr. Plunkett) had no
never heard ofhis-being a public debtor till 1815.--
opportu-
The fact was, it was a matter between him arid his nity of reply, and to state that those were improper
Proceedings,
agent, and Government had no business to interfereroceedings, upon the propriety of which the House
was hereafter to be called upon to deliberate and to
in it at all. What this Gentleman now asked for was
to be restored to his rank, in order to re-establish his judge—Wear).-Now, he had expected fr6m the
lt-known talent of the Ri Hon. and Learned
charattet. He derived no pay either retrospectively
we
or prospettivert. • Gentleman, that when he had ght
anticipated the deci-
sion of the House, and characterized the proceedings
Sit-1100E11T WILSON thought this Gentleman
was entitled tti the protection of the House. which had been adopted as improper, he would him.
The Petition was read, and ordered to be printed. self have come forward in a direct and manly manner
MR. 10WRING. to support the charge, by bringing those proceedings,
Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON gave notice, deration of the House—(Hear, hear).—As this was, and measures founded upon them, before the consi-
that he should, on Thursday next, move for the Cor-
respondence between Mr. Bowring and the Govern-
not.the case, whenever the Hon. Member who now
ment of this country. moved for these papers should bring forward his ul-
terior measure, he called u . the Right Hon. Ba'

SUPPLY REPORT.
On the Report of the Conunittee of Supply being brought up,
Mr. HUME said, he wished to make a few remarks
on the practice of Government in promotions in the
Navy last year. The' House ought to know the ex-
tent of the dead weighf, as it was called, of the allow.
antes to Naval Officers. By a Return of JaoUary,
1849., them were 5689 Officers, Lieutenants and up-
wards, at an expense of one million for half-pay alone.
He did think that promotions in the Navy had now
become the greatest matter of favour, and the
greatest means of influence over that House. Last year
there were a great number, and, he had no doubt a
Return Would shew that scarcely any of them had
any chirp whatever. It was an evil of great magni-
tude, foe the strength and glory of this country de-
pended on the state ofthe Navy. He was sute that
not one-terith ought to have been promoted, and it
would appear that the half-pay thus weighing on the
country wht. a greater suin than all the reductions
about to be made. Since the peace, 780 Officers had
been promoted,_ making an increase of half-pay to
about half's pillion.: Out of .5689 Officers, there
were only 548 ininitptbyment last year, and notwith-
standing that' snail number, ISO were promoted last
year. ih'iagain repeated what he had said of the
Marines lastleir, viz. that the Staff was greater than
it should be; He wished also to observe with regard to
the Ordlianef 'Craft, that they ought to be contracted
for, as was the. way. with' the. Navy Board, and as was
recommltirlded by. several Committees to that House.
Sir JOHN OSBORN regretted that the Clerk .of
the Orditatice was not in the House to answer the
Honousable Gentleman on the topic he had last ad-
vertcdto. As to .thc system of promotions in the.
Navy, whenever the Hon. Gentleman should bring
forward any specific motion, the Admiralty would be.
found ready to justify that system. It would be found
that on foreign stations where promotion took plies',
by casualties, the vacancies were filled up by Midsbip-,

_......c, •.... _ .ipon ._ ,igt.
ronet to stand up in support of his opinions, by se-
conding the Hon. Member upon that occasion. To
that Hon. Member he begged to say, that as early a
day as possible would be desirable for the full dis.
cussion of the matter. He said this, not merely in
reference to himself, though, individually, he felt a
strong desire that his personal conduct should be in=
vestigated without loss.of time, but because the ques-
tion involved the general conduct of the Adminis-
tration of the Government of Ireland under the Mar-
quis Wellesley.
Sir J. STUART said that he would boldly avow
to this House and the world that the proceedings in
question were unconstitutional—(Hear). He was
bound to say so; for although he felt great admira-
tion for his Right. Hon. Friend, if he might be allowed
to call him so, yet he would not hesitate to do his duty.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could
1)e
not help putting it to the. House whether, under all
,the circumstances of the case, it would not be better
on every account not to press discussion or. the pre-
sent occasien?(Hear, kear, .and " Go on.")—'llie
motion was one for papers .merely, and they were to
granted upon a mutual understanding between
the parties concerned. The Right Hen. Baronet also
declared openly his.opipion that the late proceedings,
though not illegal, were highly. unconstitutional.
Therefore as it was a matter involving queAior.s so
important to the personal charactez of the Attorney-
General for Ireland, so important to the Goveinment
of Ireland, and consequently so.. important" to the
country at large—it required the deliberate ar.d gra.vo,
attention of the HOW; and kia better be deferred
till the Home was fully. prepared _to
.tntertahl it.
Mr. M. FITZGEALALD questicuaed the necessity
of .waiting for the. production of papers before the
Irtransactions ih queation.should be eatulioed 'and ,dis.
r Is • .
1c 'used. -Such .was.the agitated spttp'-of meet's, 4•s9ngs
in Ireland, that it was doubtful whediet a. ptibiic ,eat-