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grant his vote gunk' second that of*
Friend. 41 1
Mr. BENZ Ere 'wished to know. if
'able Gentleman (Mr. Forbes). had meal ow Ipp,
the linguane he h atl *mad to biin ( Mo 8), per
Mr. FORBES said, that his iiiiservatonis Weresonall noy t
intended to be personal. It was for the House to de-
cide whether his langnagt had been proper or ti0t......,
He was not aware that htsconduct bad heed at all un-
parliamentary. .
The House dililded, when the numbers Woe—For
the Amendment 62—for the original methyl We:.
Majority in favour of The Grant 12.
On the question that a Bill should be brought in
founded on the Resolution of the Committee, another
division took place.—P'br the Motion 7d—Against
it 6J—Majority in favour of the Grant IS.
MONUMENTS TO COPalti&Oß ATE TIM LATIC VICTORY.
Lord C A s-r LER EAGH had deferred his motion
for the erecting of monuments to the memory of the
Officers Who fell in the late .glorioua.victory *till'ffile
day, in the hepe timely this dente the Duke of WA..
lington would have been able 'to fOrnish thereturns
of the total los% sustained; but such had bees the
course of .service, .that down to the 25th the latest
period to which dispatches 1,4 a been rectinted) bis
trace had not been able to collect them. Eneugh
however was litteirt -4 eatisfyilri. cottattiedfitt salll
time ought to I*k/a In tharnpungui-PaY9flritryll
debt Of gratitude which .:hpd horn hearse &t.
When the atteotion -of die House was ,called to this
subject on;a foimet day, we did not !blow. the magi.
oitude of our own loss; but it Was nist till we it..
ceived the enemy'* own seccouotethat.weeould mew;
sure the unexampled effect n 1 she emotions Of OW
brave army. Great actions had frequently led
great results, but none had ever led to erotic( Mt
sults than those which had' followed the vietrtly tit
Waterloo. None had left in the bands of the:oW
querors more military trophies, and none had pro-!
cloud greater moral effects. These were seen initi:
hawing male that country, WhiCh had been the mean('
of spreading calamity over Europe for the last twenty-.
live yews, experience, in her turn, some Of theitella
which she had made herself an instrument to inflict
upon others. The dangers with which that
was now environed would, he trusted, make apt
people feel that they had no time t 5 lose t atoning
for the crimes which they had 'committed, and in en-
deavouring to repair those injuries which they-
brought upon mankind—(Crite tf hear.' kaint)-.:
It would, be doubted not, be fele by the House, that
some mark of puolic gratitude ought to commemo-
rate the services of those who had lost their lives in ;
gaining for ;Veit country a triumph, which taken in
a political, in a moral, or in a military point.of views
;was the xreatest achievement. which had ever exalted
the tame of the B,itish arms. On such an occasion.,
the House might concur with him in °Omits's. that it
would be useful to travel a little out of the ordinary.
course of their proceedings, as that illustrious Angler
had travelled oat of the common course-of WAN He
thould, therefore, recommend to them the erection of
a National Monument to the memory of the. Generals,
Officers and Soldiers.—( Veer, hear, hear.)—lii adopt-
in;; this proposition, however, it would with him be
nutter of regret, it those-Officers who had eeSled
them...lves to a pie-eminent place in site graieW re-
collections of their couserymeni-coeld sot :be ;Loon-
spicliously distinguished :is it monuments were raised
to them indiviiiially: Could they- know whit was
iliiing to honour them, he was convinced . nothing
could be mor.! crateful to their feelings than to have
their brave stack.: s included in that tribute which their
.gratelnl countrymen destined t 6 perpettiate theieser-
v_ices•—`(Reari -4.9.r.)—H0 would with.the . names of
these ofliCers to be preserved in the most distin-
guished manner, and pr.sived they would be, toe
the gratitude of an admiring posterity. (Hear, hmr.)
...-He was emfident it would he Moat gmteltd.to4he
' teellogs of the- representativet of a country like this,'
to• address the Crown on such an occasion.. recom-
mending the erection of a National Monument, to
commemorate the heroism of the Officers and men
who had fallen. Feeling.that °Ailing which haanuld
-offer was necessary to haghteit that spirit whit:hp/me
a aded the House, he should move—" That an humble
Address be presented .to his Royal Highness the
Prince Regent, praying that be would he-
ittiossly
Fleased.to direct a National Monument to Cream&
ioe
an honour of the splendid victory of Watt . and
to commemorate the valour of the Officers and OM,
of the Duke of Wellington's army who fell aa•il'e
16th and 18th of June, and more particularly.to per
petuate the services of Lieutenant-Genie! Sir T.
Picton, and Major-General Sir William Pottsosibp"
He (Lord Castlereagh was sure the House, iftain
k carried back its recollection of the services of the
two Of named in the motion, would commie this
acknowledgment of their distinguished merit. One of
them had been the friend and the follower ehthit braise
Abercromby, and had been engaged in ever/Ladon
but one, which had immortaliaed the nameOfWeilint,
ton In the Peninsula, and had particularly signalised
himselt ip.the battle efßusactsand theatosmkg. of Bs-
dojos. lithe servicinef the other allantGeoar ltflitW.j,
Poosonisy) bad-bara lesseatu
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as t 9 distinguish Mit is *melt as it was pilaf* felt
an officer to be distinguished within the peeled ialgail
they comprehended. la she battle of Salamanca, he
served under General Le Merchant, who unfortu-
nately lost Ids life eatly its the sOtiosi. The command
of his brigade, in ionscqiieece, .ilevo)ved oR Major
Genera) l'onsonby. who fought it so•well that on that
memorable day the service .did not suffrceaftecirl la
from the
loss of the-nuich•lansented COmmandet
Merchant) who hail fallen, and be (SirW.Pansonlry)
had contributed largely to the fortunate issue of shot,
engagement. It would be an additional gratificader
to the House, while lamenting the loss of this bleu!
(gable Officir, to recal the great exertions which had,
added to his fame on that glorious day on whichhte
had laid down his Isle, The ciergy which he thee]
displayed lied carried' hi% 4o tar. Abu haploid-,
ttito4ey ow 'neg.:y.s ranks, and his dead body tied
been FOUII 1 in the rear of the position which tile/ lase
ocoupied.—(Hear, *ear.) .
Mr, W. WYNNt:. hoportbitt:this.ipitipeokokono.
mint would not be confined to any gardenia Ilkilna pit;
Lord CASTLE , . •
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should he raised to Lieuten,
Pieton and Major.Geoeral Sir %Valiant Ponsoithy.
When the services of these Officers were considered,
and in how many victories they hid had a share, he
,
trusted the erection of separate monuments to their
memory woultl be deemed an' act of justice: He
could quote almost the last sciitls of Sir Thomas
Picton, when he left this cnuntry to repair to his
post in the Nothetlands :••••44 11 .1... should fall, which is
most probable, I hope that I shill not he cureotten,
and that I shall receive the same distinction eneletred
tlicion others." This proved how much value was
IlceJ upon these marks of national gratitude. and
ateffeet they prodneed on the minds opt the British
army. Alto tire battle of the Me medals had been
itruek and given to the seant.n who had, been-en.
aged in action, and he knew •that the value attached
to them was so great, that many brave men, %teen
dying,. asked that they should lie belied with them.
tor
they should be sent to their families. The exoener
Would be trifling, and they would be handed down
by our valiant soldiers to their children as a pool' if i
the.heroluirt of their ancestors.
Lord CASTLEREAGH could have but one ob.
• ' t its common with the Honeereble Gentleman;
hen a sense of national gratitude for eminent ser-
vices was to be expressed. In addition to the distin-
guished place which'. those heroic officers should
occupy on the monument in. consequence of their
rank, he would most. cheerfully agree in moving that
.funeral monuments should be erected to their memory
.in the cathedral church of St. Paul. He then al-
Aeredhis motion to that effect.
Mr. W. WYNNE inquired whether the name id
every man would be inscribed on the monument t
Lord CAST LE R EA.G H thought this lied better
be left to the ezecetiop.
General GASCOIGNE suggested the ' reltrietY
of interring the body of Sir Thomas Picton, which
had been brought over to this country, in the cathe-
dral, where a monument was to be raised to his me.
'miry. On the day previous to the great victory of
the 18th, he bad been dangerously wounded. From
the moment he had Sahib's country till he joined the
army, he had never entered any bed, he had scarcely
given himself time to tabs any refreshment. so eager
was he to lose no time to the performance of his duty.'
After the severe wound which he had received, he
would have been justified in not engaging in the ac-
tion of the 18th. His body. he understood. was not
only blackened hy it, bat swelled to a considerable
degree. and those who had seen him woad-red that
he should have been able to take pate in tile duties of
the field. He had fallen gloriously afterwards at the
head of his column, maintaining a linlifitfil which if
it had not been kept, would have altered the tate of
She day, and its issue might have been different from
that which now occasioned such well founded rev
Juicing., He repented his wises that hie body should
be interred in the Cathedral where the monument was
•to he erected, and suggested that some of the distinc-
tions conferred upon him should be extended to his
family., • .
Mr. W. SMITU would be happy to to Ilnd it pos-
sible to commegnotate the Cant* of all ;be men who
had fallen in tot action. It could not tail to pro-
duce an excellent effeq, and could be executed, in
his vittion, with little .eapense, and without much
'difficulty, either within or witheot the ntoonnent.
?or some fauteuil' acts in antiquity this had been
*4*, and the recant had conic duWA to-onr times.-ae
kto also hoped that a pe)ace would beerected for the
Mike of Wellington. and that the nation would id
I rest satisfied with purchasing an al4 house for thisbe-
roic Commander. '
: : Mr. •WiLBERFORCE concurred in preferring
the erection of a palace. which he thoUght would.*
emote wise and Kea .mical.thao the plan proposed.
'lf it cost more, be wished the deficiency to be made'
,op. without any etplihse on the part of the Lit*
rnerci. The public aod poiterity would have the be ~
Oat of this palace. It would not be erected merely.,
vier the gratification of the' ulte of Wettington, but.
to stew our descendants, that when a man conferred
'such services upon his cimnery,-lie was distiogutshed
by the greatest tribute of gratitude which she could
convey, He was gratified With toe addition made
to the present motion. When monuments of the
redid& we owed to HISAVIINs• aid the thanks We
owed so individuals, were seen in places of Divine
worship, those emotions were united to feelings of
aligloa. Hi considered no bniial.ground more pro-
, for the remains Of Sir Thomas Picton than the
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tarlfintaan BMITH. who rose in the midst of
`aims of •• Question, Question l" was understood to
recommend St. Alban's, as the spot most tit for the
CMCies) of a national monument.
Mr. BANKS .% advised. that 'the ornaments of this
national monument sbnuld be supplied by that city
not is the possession of Al* illustrious Conqueror.—
Naiad-it ba4prapes—shasazipaid twice v iiiquished
should keep the fruits of berslunder.( liear, hear)—
and continua to hold up her head H.cr conquerors
should not be deprived- Of the honours due to their
triumph, which she should he- mode a means of corn.
menforating. It was from that guilty capital. he
repeated, that the ornaments of our national motto-
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ment should be taken.
. Mr. MAURICE FITZGERALD was of a dig.
Ferenc opinion. The Honouralale Gentleman wished
drat our national monuments shotdd hs ornament, d
with the plunder of a conquered city. However throw
*spoils might have.been acqtlited by Franc..., he hared
that we should not become plunderers-ourbege-ia. It.
it was necesiary that they should.* surrentleied,
it he to those from whom they had. been taken. Lot
tbe.hottoursi England •stand on her Darn gloiy,
letbsr not tallow the same course as France herself.:
if it was necessary that our monument shouLl bit
4durned with the spoils of our enemy, let us follow
the example given us by Russia, when she piled the
cuanon taken Isom the invaders during their twee:
in her capital. Our great victory at trdeu us the
,d record. he could state tram
?ledge, that it having been rensatkeu
Wellington, tl4.it on the List OtC4-
Arabi's had +conducted the9selves.
gritateu deliclfey ; 1.14 answer WAS:
that it .1 gall, they shalt thii liens
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