Star.
London, England, 1814-05-13 00:00:00

Mr. HART DAVIS presented s Petition from the Slip Own-
ers of Bristol, praying that the practice of impeesong the Chia.
Mates of vessels Above 20 was to be itscontinavd.
The Cpmmiate on .the Convoy Bill was postponed to ter
morrow.
ORDERS OF THE lIOCSE..
• Sir JOHN NEWPORT rose to inquire of the
Under Secretary for the Home Department, how it
had happened that thesorder on that House for certain
returns, to be made by the Courts of Justice, had not
yet been Communicated to these Courts?
Mr. H. ADDINGTON said he understood the
practice to be, that the Home Depat tment forwarded ••
every order for the production of papers which was
conveyed through an Address to the Throne ;--birt
that it never hud been usual to make that office the
organ for circulating every order which the House
might make for any particular document.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT contended, that the or.
ders were not of that nature which could be constitu-
tionally transmitted backwards and forwards. If
such a process avers to get into use, it would be im-
possible for the business of that House to be trimsacs
ted. It was nearly sir weeks since the orders were
issued, and the papers were not forthcoming because
a Secretary of State had thought that the application
to his Office was irregular. In the mean time those
from Ireland and Scotland had been sent ; and if -
there really were any thing informal in the applica-
tion, a rule should be laid down (or the future guid-
ance of the House and conformel to.
Mr. WYNNE insisted, that the Secretary of State's
Office for the Home Department was the regular
channel for whatever relates to the internal adminis-
tration of the country, and instanced the compliance
with similar orders of the House horn that quarter,
at the time he watvin office. The present neglect-was,
in his opinion, a matter of great importance.
The SPEAKtER. Said, the facts Of the ease ap-
peared to be as follow t when orders are made by the
House, they are sent to those quarters where is is ex.
pecthd they ought to he executed : but where certain
orders should be sent, teemed eo hen point not sn well
understood as 4 ought to be. The House /fad the
practical intermation, that in matters ot finance all
orders were carried by the Se:jeant at Arms to the
Treasury, from whence they were forwarded to the
different departments to which- they related. Bait it
seemed also to be thought, that other ordert, if carried
to the Office of the. Secretary of State; ought in like
manner to be forwarded. The messenger who con-
veyed thither the orders in question, wet told tocarry
them to the Clerk of the Crowe, in the King's Bends-
Office. He took them accordingly, and he (the '-
I Speaker) had heard with astonislimetn, tkit this pee-
-1 son, no doubt through a want of information on his
part, had refused at first to obey them. At lastihow.
ever, becoming alarmed, he had. begun to snake in.
quity as to how he was to circulate them. This de.
lay certainly rendered it necessary to put the execution
of the ordtrs of the House upon sorhe regular resting.
It was evident that the House, upon its own autho-
rity, stood in no need of such facilities ; but if the or-
ders, were not punctually and immediately executed,
innocent persons might be placed in the unpleasant
predicament of being brought before the House for
contempt or disobedience. On the whole, however,
he thought it would be expedient to let the matter
rest as it is for a few days ; when the House might
decide whether it would be best to take the execution
of its orders upon itself ? If this mode were adopted,
cases might arise in which it would be difficult to find
a sufficient number of persons properly qualified to
go into parts on such missions. At all events, though
the House were not in a condition to d2ciilt; upon the
question at the present moment, yet in a rev days
some mode might be devised, which, by leaving the
final authority of the House untouched may neverthe.
less enable it to carry its orders into effectual execution.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL mtrely wished
to state, that the returns were ta a fair way of being
soon produced, and he ttuved that nu practical in-
convenience would t esult from the orders not having
been pat in a course of immediate execution. The
Right Hon. Gentleman added, that it would be secs
that no increase of fees had taken place.
Mr. ADDINGTON trusted it would not be sup.
posed that there had been the least reluctance iu the
Office of his department to promote the execution of
the orders.
Mr. PONSONBY spoke at some length, to shew
thit the execution of its own orders by the House
would be attended wall a great public expence, from
the number of persons that must be etneloyed.
The conversation was continued for some time be-
tween Messrs. BATHURST. WYNNE, GOOLDRUMN, Sir
J. NEWPORT, and Sir A. PIGGOTT.
At length the•SPEAKER said, it was of conse-
quence for the House not to lose sight of so important
a subject ' • but at present it would be advisabie to pass
on to the Orders of the Day.
The second reading of the Madhouse Bill tees post .
till this day se'nnight.

paned .
Mr. PEELE gave notice that he should moveto.
morrow. in a Committee of Supply, fora
tram
for the
miscellaneous services of Ireland. over.