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by the Amendment I intend to
now, as I have thought before, that the House
oink--
Troops sere, indeed, prepared-e-sbips were prepared I Posse-sm Itt It h not my 'Mt* pulp
to interfere, and 'that nothing can be well and
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ProPose-7r,tthiw
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Bonsipane, was left to avail himself of the co-
ally done without the interference of the House. in
operation of two corps d'armee from that quarter, t
and proposing the Amendment, it is my intention to
mos;
against Which the attack-on the part of Sweden was
meditated. He differed both from the Noble Lord,
and the Right Hon. Gentleman, in their views
ppinions of the li.ussiart campaign. He differed most that all the parts of the Address be left out of a;
Whitbread then read his Amendment, which ;
materially as to the conflagration of Moscow. The word, "That," with the exception of that part 1;
Right Hon. Gentleman called Bonaparte the devas- ing to "_That,"
East India Company's Charter. re'
tator of Wscow,vand yet Bonaparte most cordially
wished for the preservation of Moscow.— (Thar !)..... its principal paragraphs, conformable to his Sperm
It was not the policy of Bonaparte to destroy Mos- and terminated wit recommending to his a° 1
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—e present stat
cpw, ;tor had it been his practice to destroy the capi- Highness the Prince Regent, ;.n as
tads of the countries with which he contended. He affairs, when no dishonourable object could be it%,,1.
had entered Berlie,Vientia,Venice, and Milan, as well ted to Great Britain, Russia, or France, o venues ft
as Moscow, but none of them had he milted. The the general pacification of urope.
Right Hon. peetlemani and the Noble Lord, had Sir G. HEATHCOTE said, he would ream.,
' described the conflagram tioo of the capital, as a the attention of the House for a few ---`
oments, *
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noblesacrifice of the Russian people, and a glorious order that he might give his reasons for haring
proof of their readiness to resign to the flames and Gonded the amendment. The gallantry of our mon,-
extreme 'misery their wives, their children, and from the commencement of the contest in the Fey:
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their all, for the sacred love of. country. The fact stila to dip present hour, had acquired them lie
was, however, directly contrary to the glowin pic- R highest renown, and they were held in the first esa,
tures draw by the Noble Lord, Moscow waeburgt f motion by all the nations in Europe. He Mouth,.
by military command. Whether the act was :teas, therefore, it was a fair opportunity fora pacific A;
sary ornot, be woad not say ; but it was undeniable, when Vat' military glory was so fairly and
that the lahabitatits had no '
refuge, no solace in their appreciattd. He was not a man who wished toms,
wretchedness ; and that the Russians, in executing on the prince Resent or hii Ministers tO sat
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the act, had paid the penalty of the deed by military i timely or for an improper peace!
... but when be
retribution. He was not much inclined to praise the for a long time men successive Ministers roma, a.
patriotistn'of the Russians, which had been the mils. continued career of war, he thought it tieje that air,
ject of so much encomium. it was a natural pro-1 H. °use should at least begin to think of ipse4 4;
pensity that they should he fond of their country ; . a friend to the country, he 1101 ed thereSleeteane In
but when he heard of their veneration for their laws , the present Parliament, tvho "Vold mem; paiti,
and constitution, and their determination to defend cal independence, and bend their attest* saw
them, lie could not* help thinking the Panegyric ' the trneinterests of the country.
attest*
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overstrained and pea:feedy absurd. of the Valour,? Mf.TONSONBY, thinking he had Iwo ne.ttata
intrepidity, and perseverance of the Russian troops, he to by a Right Hoe. Gentleman the anor pa,.
entertained a very high opinion; but that they acted Canhi cus
ng),whinle spoke Of an intended Alnendmeot,
more in conformity to the orders of their superiors, assured that Right Hon. Centleuim, and the Hop,
and from the inherent spirit of subordination, than , that he had no knowledge whatever of such Amoral.
front a love of their laws and constitution, he was ment, until he heard of at in his place. The Ad'il
Clearly convinced. The Noble Lord had, iu a moraen. proposed by The Noble Lord, was, as usual, a
tary enthusiasm, compared the retreat of Kutusoff to , echo of the Speech ; but the Amendment pro '
that of Moreau. He would leave the Noble Lord to by his HOnograble Friend was of a naturewild;
make good the comparison; but surely there wasa i different—it embraced a variety of topics, man.
very material difference between Moreau, advancing fleeted with the Speech or Address, and, email
into the very heart of an enemy's country, penetrating : other things, requested ' the Prince Regent to
duo' the most difficult defilos, deprived of resources, mate propositions of - peace to the. stamp,.
and constantly surrounded and attacked; and Kutusoff, i 'This was by far the most inmortant Part of rite
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falling back upon Moscow, with his supplies ani ma- ! Amendment. But before the Right 'Honourag
Gentlenian came to it, he wished to
_make a fie
I g azines at hand, continually reinforced, and supported .
observations on the Other. inbjeits to which tie
and strengthened by every possible, morel, and play-- .
Gentlemen who had 'Preceded this in the debate
sical means. Ministers appeared to assume a merit
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to which they had no real claim from the late sac-
had adverted. As to America, the Noble
ceases in Spain ; but was it not generally known, and opposite to him had Said, 46 that he was nire'lbe
he mentioned it with the more satisfaction, 'as it Gentlemen of the*other side could not blame 24.
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tended to exalt still higher the character el that glue,-
! amisters kir not
trims Comglander, Lord Wellington, that he did not '
court the battle cif Salamanca ? The power 'of Englandhiving at ones exerted the itholl against Americus, as, 'dunes
French Gene. ; the whole of doe last '&ssion, they had not ieste4
.to recommend conciliatory Measures toward; tint
seal having left himself open ao attack, Lord Wel-
lington seized the opportunity, defeated the enemy ' Countiy." ' lithe Nohli Lord meant to include hie;
in those insinuations, he did not' acculieli recollect
in one of the most decisive battles ever fought by
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a British General, advanced into Spain, and laid • what he (Mr. Ponsonby) had then 'stated;
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siege to Burgos, with the hope and probably the con-
the Noble Lord came drain 4 the House 'with
numerous. evasions and tergiversations the
' fidence of bringing the campaign in the Peninsula
' den of Council, wishing to retain thenioni thtl, t4to an ultimate and triumphant issue. To his de-
w-ere ' modify them another, to .susliend them 04e eirie
ficiency of supplies, resources, and means,
consenting to- revoke them; the:
we to attribute his subsequent movements and re- , and; WEIT.
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retrograde operations; ' But that was the universal
Honourable Gentleman bad then clearly stag
Spanish nation doing ? The Marquis of Wellington he- was apprehensive those delays woulep.l`e
sal to the concession it self, which perhaps could
osafyms iandrionde
woifilhbeis leatbteiers,tothdaot hae
lhitogsftoher.
thinehmabseitlaviegas
longer avert the threatened hostilities. He believedit
Yet what happened ? Lord Wellington shortly after' others had expressed the same opinion, but he wii
the evacuation of Madrid informs us, theta very small : certain that he had. Some Gentletnen had entire,
I French force took possession of that capital. Look at: further, and raid, that America, wearied liilOng ;h.
' , the universal Spanish nation in another point of view 1 • fusals, would insist On her own terms ; att-aaA
t When Lord Wellington had been declared General-
cave he had declared* that he would resist any
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issimo of the Spanish armies, whit followed ? Gene- ! tensions contrary to the acknowledged rights
pal Ballasteros, an officer unquestionably of distin- to the prosperity of England r---thaf °plaice le
he Nine
[ gunshed Merit, refused to obey him; and there could ' did not wish to retract ;—bat before
.-Ibe little• doubt, he spoke with deep regret, that sed any opinion on the subject, he wished to lente
• the motives which inflenced )3allasteros, alto actuated what had *really passed In oar negociations with
I a considerable number of. Spaniards. An Inquiry, America. He did not wish to praise Or censure We
therefore, into the state of affairs in Spain, became nesters without proofs. He had disapproved their
absolutely necessary ; and if the war was to be car.' conduct; it was with gladness he hid heard &hi
ried on there with vigour, it ought to be conducted
conciliatory dispositions, and he would not now psis
with all the vigour and resources of the country. Let condemnation upon them without prciefs` The Noble
the Ministers of the Prince Regent satisfy the House i Lord opposite, adverting to the situation of affaill in
by proper docuthents and evidence, that every : the Peninsula, had asserted, that surely 'Minist,at
means have been exerted,—and then let Parka- • could not be blamed if the exertions they had a*
menu decide whether the contest in the Peninsula' had kept pace with the resources of the eountrY ;
is to be maintained or to be abandoned. The Right Was one of those who had repeatedly aweitedr.
Henourahle Gentleman, is the course of his speech 1 Spain could not be saved by British, but-by S
took occasion to observe that the love and affec- ' troops—(Hear, hear.) He had always though
tion of the parent descended to the children, but the mode in which we asiisted fhe Spaniards wit
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that With all the love this country manifested towards judicious, and he was still of the same Opilii00;
was wrong, • if the system adopted by httailtfraS
• America, she made no return. How did the Right
Hon. Gentleman prove this when lie was in office? preferable to his suggestions, 110* could_theylaan
'The House would recollect, that when he correspond- I justified in having carried so ill, a hew .
ed With Mr. Monro and Mr. Pinckney, he, although ' that no lasting advantage had been derint .
the parent, did not fail to lash them, the children, •it ?—(liter, hear; haw.) How stood . .
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very severely. The Right Hon. Gentleman has.. tea
in the present' instance ? A most brat. :
painted in warm colours, the mission of the Ameri. tory had been obtained by the Marquis d "104.
can republican, Joel Barlow,,
to the devastator Bo.* too ; a victory owing entirely to his com rank
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mip!rte, in Russia, in opposition to the liberator in from what he had learnt, from good aodtocitia!!!
Spain. Thus the House had set before them.: in one never was a 'victory which depended less upon
view, a negociator, a devastator, and a liberator. I
—For his own part he wished, and he spoke sin- , and the probabilities a which dial beea submitll4*•
stricter calculation(Rao: Isterj ' Yet whit_,"
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I cerely, that the Noble Lord were on his way with ! the result ?• The gallant Chief had been gbiLB.ll.,
Joel Barlow, for the ptuairtite Of 'entering into ne- ,I*.ale nate Madrid, ho had hate a 4 Ant° thefl
l•gociations for Peace.- Mr: Whitbivad, after no- 1 had been, forced tteraise the tier of-BoMerw`l,
1 of sufficient means, pursued by that verfar°ll
_‘.., ticine, at some length, the tardy measures taketakers
by Government, to -prevent war with' America', I had yielded the (-aim of victory colds superior gsar'd.
and adverting to the calamitout State of trade and
1 As Co the Catholic Quesdonlbe conelvded that Minister
! manufactures; concluded with entreating the House man Ili.
Ifiousatliel:i
htLit ; and the (lowa°, of that subject in tbg .r.peetil ,
e I- that they did not intend to bring the OW
i not to suffer the present moment to pass without I forward
converting it into the happy instrument of the re- fan cieLquence, And ma Right Hoops's,* Qat '
man (Mr. Canning), who had last Sestion 'twig a alert
i establishment of Peace. 14 I 'am," said hr, 44 aiding fainv,rjeofteit'maaof a lit,jr°alt timbal". 'llama. ns7rwt.iadePaitZentraw.:— it
to admit, that our exertions in Spain have been great -s-14 soh-
pantsr
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and glorious, yet, permit me, Sir, to say, that even the espresso desire of thatcll'tighehs 4404. wonw igiwenZgivanodolgl9
after the battle of Salamanca, T was not so very san- Hems, that shortly after the Christmas recess, ito waali,&ali""
guineas others in my expectations. ' We ha re since :motion to tie How, on the Massey of repair* lba alar
experienced reverses, and the prospect is-Materially
--changed. The • Emperor of the French hat also tk;taiLurnir:_tfut.w.LhicLlAhMtheElthiltapit Vetil°ll;all Cat
our holic,
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been disappointed; andhis hopes have been foiled By hien moved, and he shotkintiat deetiedirsaPPFea, is
ari - unexpected event t ' his' -forces have' been her. VARNON skid be *meld girl Ida viol for the
'diminished, and are 'diminishing; his difficulties 'Lalamsdnewaddawhi the Noble
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