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Lotreverpuw:i•sl High Treason. Treasons wet mated with a refer. • though we did iMpeke, , iga seek t
once to dig existence and claims of the Pretender, which i disguise or conceal the fact, fcr religious
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would of course become •a dead letter Whenever time connected with tenets of a political nature, Erbil
had put a period to thaveristence. Accordingly we , were abjured by those who were
would find that an Act passed in the 7th of Queen , them. Under circumstances such as these, seen 4
Anne, and which provided against the attempts of; discontent natural and to-be erpected ?He wont i*
the Pretender, was to expire on his decease ; but this , far from countenancing or jtistityingrameneicc.a
law was afterwards, by an Act of the 17th of inflammatory language ; but as Counsellors cf cr
George the Second, extended to his Sons, - Farther ' Crown, it was the duty of the Members cf that i'
than the exinction of the family, no alarmist had sembly to examine well the probable effects t lel
extended his views, and the law was now of course causes of discontent among the people I.* tO el'
obsolete. He would now beg leave to offer a few might conceive to exist. It he were only to dwell , a
remarks, with respect to the arguments against the probable ill consequences of the deagtreu dos.
the Catholic claims, which had been drawn from contents which now subsisted in Irelend, he el
the situation in which the Pope was placed. In the have made eut a case sufficiently strong to entitsl::-1,1--til
year 18.05, it was asserted that the danger of conces- i to call ter the serious consideration of their Lo-d.
sion to the Catholics was enhanced by Bonaparte's i ships ; b:.t how vastly would his claim epee diet
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being reconciled to the See of Rome ; but in the aut.') Mei be strengthened, when he mad safely 1.1
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name of HEAVEN what was the nature of the retort- that it was impossible that the nexiotis laws to uh.
nterest, And
ciliation r That might be judged of by the object those discontents were owing, could cell:irate to of
oft, which was nothing more or less than the rnik- rate without giving birth to a train (dills, mule , -'..
ing the whole of Italy subject to the Iron Crown.— ble than any which the heated imapini.lion ofeltielk
This object had been attained, and to that Crown most horrid and wkked could conjure up l Wine
had been united the rich and valuable teinpnralities not by delay, with respect to this preet qtievas.
of the Roman Pontiff, and he himself had fallen be- weakening the nat nal spirie—cia
neath the power of the person who wished to be re- resources—undermining every ussi ' 1 r•e iii este iii e
conciled to him ; but again, from this circumstance, in the country—tindei 'hieing the vt ry Ch rh E
was danger, increased danger, augured. It was said , lelishment, in which we took
that he still retained his authority in all its amplitude, which we were so much alarmed ? it etas imp as
and that this authority would be in future increased • that we samild wrest from any clan; -•of • 1 •
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under the influence of our enemy ; but what an erro- evil rights (and an eligibility to civil and stelae
neous view was this to tike of the subject ? Could dikes was th e Ogle t t every Bri idi sari ject),in it
it be seriously maintained, that, under the power of , der to sec uze a church t stab:i,hrneat, et rhnin iitsts'
Bonaparte, the old man had any autherity ? His ing the injured w ith a deep decision to de Es e eit te aie
opinion was very different from that of such as would ; ment which was to he upheld a;.d fortified by thee
answer him in the affirmative. ill the captivity of ! privations, and by being male to press en their c,a
the Pope, he contemplated safety rather than danger. I condition ; and I) ow shallow end erroneous was the
So far from that circumstance having armed his au- policy which cou Id embody arinst the Church
thority with new terror, in his mind it had completely numerous and p ots ertul class el the cernmeeity,
extieguished it. 'Phere seemed to be abundance of , who might, by wiser end more leriieat treatn ere, ki
at least negative proof that it had extinguished it : : made to feel the it int( rests core-acted eith• la
for if it had existed, and was meant to be made an safety, and to start' aft th among the most neloas .
inquiry of, had there not been hitherto numerous op- lice- supporters ? Lur it w ould be said, :hat to barg
portnnities for calling forth its power ? Might it i within the rase of the Clanch's favour retains
not have been used with vast advantage to the cause verse to -her tenets, was dangtrcut. Lot le sou
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of Bonaparte in Spam and Portugal ? and, above all, desire those who rested on seich arguments to ay
would that person have been tempted to put it in I what evil concession had as yet produced, anti .
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action in the Spanish Colonies ? But bad we ever to turn their eyes towards the danger whiai ._
heard that any attempt of the kind had been made ? E.tablishment would ir.cur from the Menial s.,
And not having so heard, could we, for a moment, ness, with respect to the comae n caemy, et '.
imagine, that if it was likely to be attended withetny must be the censeeucnee• of leaving unaNyed
success, and not, on the contrary, to have proved discontents they _were diseosed to siteht, and '.
completely abortive, it would not have been made ? must inevitably increase, if the system to ea.
But it was obvious that the proceedings of the French they were attribteable we re blindly persevered
Potentate, with respect to the Pope, were not the re- f and that in a prorortion which might appal
suit of any views like those imputed to him, whence`must confident to contemplete. It would be war
" Ilis chief object was his temporalities ; and it he had r while to euquire what were the effects of the sy
any ulterier view, it was to extinguish the Papal I in various parts of the United Kingdom, what w.
power altogether, and to substitute far it, so far at 1 the state of that when it was much telexed, and to
least as regarded his own dominions, another spiritual when it was in lieu ? Wee Ireland tranquil? or e
dominion, cf which he himself should be the main Scotland disturbed,wherePdpistswereeligibletost.
spring. Where, then, was this dreaded authority ef ; office e f the State, and where they never had in any
the Pope ? At Rome it• was destroyed, and it would ineta rice abused that privilege ? Here was a contra
be difficult to say in what other part of Europe it : thet spoke volumes ; which exhibited the practical el-
existed. Where was the Pope himself ? That was ifects of the system in all their defrmity, and dearly
not known ; but, wherever he was, he was a captive. I proved; that from their removal, no evil whAteveress
While he seas a captive, he trusted he had strewn I likely to proceed. With this, and vaticus other la•
there was no danger to be appielienered from him, sons of a similar nature before our eyes, we were*
and whenever he ageiit might regain his authority, it decide whether we were to renounce or adhere to a
would then be time era ugh to take means to guard isystem to which we could not adhere without prods.
against the mischief that might result horn his abuse cnrg all the evil of which we had been so elm and
of it. The doctiiiies supposed to be backed by his forcibly warned : but, from the abandonmest e'•
authority. those ciactrines, so far as they related to enothe other band, we might reasnnab!rexpect tog,
our temporal concerns, or to cur spiritual concerns the greatest beinfits; without the possibility tit tbee
influencing our temporal, had been abjured by every being alloyed by the slightest idmixture of evil. It
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part of Europe. WI en the Catholics were examined was maintained, that no effort was to be expected
touching them, we were told that they bad never from the Emakcipation of the Catholics, that eiwco.
been held, or, that if they bad, they were no longer tent would riot be appeased in Ireland by that men
held; the Catholics undertook the subversion of them. i sure ; but if it was dear that a proportitar ofthellia
When the learned Catholic Universities were cjosul - ! population were suffering under a grievance in tie
ted with respect to them, they renounced them, and I nature of a penalty, was it credible toat its ameol
even the late Pope Pius VI. had himself renouirce4 would mitigate discontent? Ag tin, it ryas allele'
them. -But then it was said, that framed as they had . that this was nett the only evil that affected lre'euer—
been at a General Council, they had never been re- I and this was made a ground of argument against it
neunced by such an assembly ; true, for there was mo., removal. Was ever such a maxim Wore propel
such assembly to renounce them; the authority did ; as proper to influence the measures of any Gutters.
not exist, and would never be revived ; it was impure I ment ? er was there upon record so proa Meat an er*
Bible in the present state of the popedom that it ever ; ample of human folly as the suggesting of it coati.
should. But would we, for want of a formal revo- ; tined ? what I because a commutity laboured untie
cation, not to be obtained, when a virtu a one had I a great variety of grievances were we cautiously wy.
taken place, continue a system inconsistent with the ! stain from diminisaing their nunibtr ? When ecia.
general frame and . spirit of our laws—inconsistent , an opportunity of removing that, the pressure of %did
with natural justice—inconsistent with the Constitual was most severe, were we to suffer it to subsist lit
tion, so justly admired—and inconsistent with that) willing to wrong the rest? Was the leilowihipd
religion we were so anxious to protect—a systemlills to remain for ever indissoluble ?He would net
which had arisen out of temporary and, occasional ! indeed, pledge himself, that the removed of the Our
circumstances, and which had been supported and I biluies affecting the Catholics should remove all die
maintained by a danger, the shade of which no longer ; content in Ireland, but be could safely assert', Otto
subsisted ? 'Would we retain it in defiance of its strange it would be removed the main cause eil discenter:)
and anomalous operation, in England, ScotlAnde and : it was a great and a legitimate grievance, one %did!
Ireland ; relaxing wheye there would appear some ' inflamed and ex:el-crated every other, whether owl
reason for restraint, and imposing that restraint or imaginary ; one which wes cf a nature most po
where no evil could result from relaxation ? or, were ' ticulArry calculated to gall the pride of the neat n !!!
all its practical evils so completely compensated for which it was sustained ; and for that reasen aas wi,
by the beiany and perfection of its theoretical con- . more dangerous, for the Irish were a peopleofspro*
texture, that we should not approach it with the sa- arid lofty spirit, a people who could as little as!!
• crilegious hand of innovation ?—Assuredly no one other brook the te•flection that they were a art'
would maintain such a proposition. On the other race, made subject to a penalty in common with
hand, were the practical benefits such as should in- guilty, and with the guilty only, and this NT"
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duce us to bear with the theoretical anomalies and kept alive in their bosoms, would impart adder'
absurdities which it presented ? He was aware-that nal bitterness to every other grievance under ow'
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sometimes the best effects flowed from such anomalies they might buffer. 'To remove all other grieves 4.
—but was that the case in the present instance ? by permitt ng the matter still to subsist, would.coort.,
no means ; on the contrary, they went to in& t sot.- Lively speaking, be useless, while, on the contr./497
fetings on those who were within the sphere of their open the doer here to healing and cencilistort 11'
operation, sufferings, he would say, was it net the rangements, would render every other point of an*
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inability to -sit in Parliament—suffering, was it not tisfaction of easy adjustment. But upon what 3_117-
degradation—was not every privatian of the kind rity was the nugator y and ineffective naturool La'
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by which men were marked out from their fellow. Emancipation supposed? why, upon that of the .
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subjects degradation, and consequently suffering ? tunate persons who were examined before tectet . A
It was sullering, ,and suffering of the nature of a pe- mittees of the Irish Parliament. These, certainty.;
natty. Their Lordships would reflect, that an inabi- affirm that Emancipation would beeffectual;
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lity to hold civil and military offices was inflicted as this authority -on which to place any reliance 1.. 41
a penalty for misdemeanours of a certain desciip- the testimony of persons avowedly concerned 'i
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don commilted by public men—if not as a penalty, revolt against the Government, of that pufe 'l7.
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as what Was it indicted—and if it was inflicted as a unsiispicious nature which should bear &lowa All
penalty in the one case, how could it baiiivested of forcible and obvious reasons in favour e f the awello
, that character in the other ? If it were admitted to which arose ein of reflections on the nature ft 01oho:
be a penalty, then he would. say, that the Catholics human heart? Do whatever else you phrase, sal*
subjected to it were eubjected• to persecution ; for it conspirators, but let
Catholic Emancipeue awl
would be too narrow a view to take of persecution to it is a thing of nought. And what was.dth:uxe=
say, that fire and faggot, and the rack were the only of this holiest or judicious advice . Di
Ministers which weld execute her bidding. The word they uttered seem intended to et.lank Anti*ee
penalty we imposed and the imposition of which we flame and implant in the heart of the atrial;
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justified by an appeal to the acts of a Council,. the sleds of dissentron and discord • ) i
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autholitYnf which was disclaimed by the persecuted, that it was his sincere oraiou, that negbi lg.

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