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of El 2. Thin necessarily limited their circulation
which he was satisfied was never in the con,'
Lion Ministets. He was convinced that,
terg4tin of the regulations in this respect,
crease would be made in the circulation

papers, and thereby a considerable addition
revenue. He then moved that there be laid

the House—
., An Account of the Establishment of the General Past Office
for the Year 1822; the names of all the Officers, their Salaries,
Fees, and Allowances, where those Salaries exceeded 2100
a-year ; stating also whether they held any other Pensions oc
Emoluments, and also the nurnbet of those who held offices
under £lOO a-year.
" Alin similar Returns for Scotland and Ireland, with the
statement of the per tentage and scale of allowances granted to
rostm an era.
" Also an account of the number of Newspapers sold or
transmitted abroad by any of the officers or clerks under the
Postmasters-General, in the years 1810, 1817 and 1821, distin-
guishing the Daily Papers from those published twice and thrice
• wet 4, and the numbers of each ; also stating the names of the
plates to which those Papers were sent, and the total amount
vent fn each year ; and also the money received."
" A similar account of all British Magazines and Reviews
-lent abroad In the same way, and a similar account of all foreign
Newspapers delivered through the I'ost Office in this country.
—Granted.

Mr. HUME then moved that an humble Address
be presented to his Majesty, praying that he will be
pleased to give directions that there be laid on the
table of that House, an account of the total expendi-
ture incurred by Great Britain in the new Colonies
of Ceylon, the Mauritius, Malta, Trinidad, Demerara,
and lierbice, distinguishing the expenditure of the
Naval, Milit*ry, and Civil Departments, for the years
1820 and 1821.-11 e made this motion for the pur-
pose of submitting a proposition to the House relative'
to the expenditure of those Colonies, as soon as the
Return- he moved for were laid upon the table.
Mr. WILMOT said, that as he understood that
the H Hlourable Member for Aberdeen had moved
for the same papers in his absence, he wished to take
the present opportunity to say a few words in reply
to hat he had been told the Honourable Member
for Aberdeen had then said. He had been told that
the Honourable Gentleman had declared that he was
not inclined to shew him (Mr. Wilmot) any courtesy.
Now, as all public courtesy was merely employed
for Parliamentary conveniency, he left the House to
consider the situation in which he should be placed,
supposing the Honourable Member for Aberdeen
should persist in withholding from him that courtesy
which was usually shewn to Gentlemen who held of-
ficial situations. If papers and accounts were called
for, without any previous notice being given to him,
be shcald be frequently obliged to meet motions for
them with the previous question, in order to ob-
tain time to learn whether he ought to grant them
or not. The House would recollect that he had only
lately succeeded to the office which he then held.—
At the beginning of the Session he had requested the
Honourable Member to communicate to him the day
before an account of any pagers for which he might
intend to move ; and he had then promised him (Mr.
Hume) that he (Mr. Wilmot) would give him on the
next day a decisive reply on the subject. The Hon.
Member, it now appeared, declined to pursue that
line of conduct, and founded his reason for doing so
upon an expression which he (Mr. Wilmot) had used
in that House.

Lord FOLKESTONE appealed to the Speaker,
whether such observations ought to be allowed? The
House, he thought, could have nothing to do with
the explanation into which the Honourable Member
appeared to be entering.
Mr. WILMOT could assure the blouse, that he
knew what he owed to himself better than to make
an appeal in that House for the private courtesy of
any Member. What he had said, was for the pur-
pose of obtaining public courtesy, and on the score
of Parliamentary conveniency. If such courtesy were
not sliewn to him, he might often be compelled to
take the sense of the House upon motions which, if
previously communicated to him, he might have no,
objection to grant. How was it possible for him to
know what papers might or might not be granted,
without previously examining into the nature of them?
—(Loud cries or, Hear,front the Ministerial Benches).
He had no objection whatsoever to the production of
the accounts now moved for.

Dr. PHILLIMORE was alluding to the conduct)
which Mr. Hume had pursued on a former evening,'
in persisting to press on the House a motion for papers
in the absence of the Hon. Member to whose office
they belonged, when
Lord FOLKESTONE rose and stated, that it was
contrary to order for one llon. Member to allude to
what had fallen from another Hon. Member in the
course of a former debate. _ _

Mr. C. WYNN would not allude to what had oc-
curred in a former debate. He would, however, put
a case to the House on which it might decide as it
thought fit. Suppose an Hon. Member was to move
for papers in the absence of, and without giving any
notice to the official character to whose department
they belonged, would not such a course of proceed-
ing be productive of great inconvenience when there
was nobody in the House capable of replying to the
Hon. Member ?—( Hear, hear).
Mr. CALCRAFT stated, that it was the invariable
practice to wait till the party in whose office the papers
were to be found made his appearance in the House.
Dr. PHILLIMORE said, that an instance had oc-
curred only last night, that such was not the invari-
able practice—(Great cheering from the Ministerial
Benches).—The motion was then acceded to.
Mr. HUME said he had another motion to submit
to the House; but before he submitted it, he wished
to say a few words upon what had just fallen from
the other side. It would have been as well if the
Honourable and Learned Gentleman who had just
spoken, and who so well knew that an individual
might change his conduct as well as his principles
and opinions—(Laud cries of Hear! from the Opposi-
benches)—had taken the trouble to be correct in
his assertions. Yesterday the motion which he was
then going to make had been made and withdrawn.
Now, any person who heard the speech of the Hon.
and Learned Gent. would have supposed that he had
made the motion and had afterwards refused to,
withdraw it—(!/ear, hear).—Now, the contrary was
the case. The motion Jie had then proposed, he had
considered as a motion of course. In the year 1820,
he had moved for a return of the expenditure incutrell
by Great Britain in the lonian Islands for the years
1817 and 1818, and k had since been laid on the table.
The motion which he had yesterday submitted to the
House, and had afterwards withdrawn to bring it
forward that day, was to have that Return continued

should act like Gentlemen to him (Mr. Aline), he
would act like a Gettlensart to theta; bet If they
made use of the language which they did respecting
him, they must not be surprised if he abstained from
:hewing them any marks of courtesy or respect. Not
only the Hon. Secretary for the Colonies had used
improper language regarding him, but the Right.
Hon. Secretary of State for the Home Department
had last night said of him-- •
The SPEAKER was ytisfied that the Hon. Mem-
ber who was now standing up for the privileges of
the House, would see the necessity of his not being
the first to violate them.
Mr. HUME continued. If Honoerable Gentlemen
on the other side expected that he should act to them
as other Gentlemen did, they must act towards him
las they acted towards other Gentlemen—(Neer,hear).
As for himself, he cared not for the expressions which
bad been used, though he thought it requisite to call
the attention of the House to them. If he had last
night supposed that any objection would have been
offered to the motion, he would net have made it.—
With regard to his having made it at a time when
the Hon. Secretary was not in his place, he would
merely say, that it was the duty of every Member
who receives the public money for the discharge of
public duties, to be early in his attendance in his
place. He had on a former occasion wished to ask a
question of the Hon. Secretary, which he had been
obliged to postpone in consequence of the late hour
at which that Hon. Member had entered the House.
In conclusion, he should move that there be laid on
the table of the House, an Abstract of the Expendi-
ture incurred by Great Britain in the lonian Islands,
during the years 1819, 1810, and 1821, distinguish.
ing the heads of disbursement, as far as the same
could at present he made out.
Mr. WILMOT thought that ifany expression which
he had used in the course of debate had given offence
to the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, it would have
been as well if that Hon. Member had called upon
him for an immediate explanation. He did not pre-
tend to be master of such self-possession as to re-
member every expression that fell from him in the
heat of debate; but of this he was sure, that, what-
ever he might have said, he had meant nothing per-
sonal to the Hon. Member. All that he had said was
meant iu a Parliamentary sense—(Hear). He should
not object to the present motion.
Dr. PHILLIMORE did not mean to offer any op-
position to the present motion. All that he had said
with regard to the Hon Member for Aberdeen was
this—that when he was pressing his motion: he bad
been requested to wait till the Hon. Secretary for the
Colonies came to the House. Thisbe at first refused
to do ; and indeed at last only desisted on an Hon.
Friend of his (Dr. Phillimore's) threatening to move
the previous question. A) to the insinuations which
the Hon. Member for Aberdeen had thrown out
against his conduct, he should only say, that he was
ready at any time to meet and to refute them.
The motion was then granted.
Mr. HUME then moved—" That there be laid
on the table of the House an account of the manner
in which the sum of 95,2001. that had been asked for
to defray the expenses of transports for the ensuing
year, was to be expended ; as also a statement of the
names and tonnage of the different iessels which are
to be employed.
Sir GEORGE COCKBURN said, that there could
be no objection to furnish such an account for a
past year ; but he did not know how it could be done
for a coming year. It would require the Controller
of the Navy to be possessed of a spirit of prophecy to
tell whether it would be the ship Anne or Eliza that
he should this year have occasion to employ.

Mr. HUME regretted that the Honourable Baronet
to whom the gallant Officer had just alluded, was
not in his place in the House; but before he had made
this motion he had submitted it to the Honourable
Baronet, who had told him that he had no objection to
the motion. The returns of the same expenditure had
been given to him last year; but even if that had not
been the case, he should maintain his right to call for
an acccunt of the services for which money was de-
manded in the Estimates.
After a few words from Sir GICOROZ COCKBURN
and Mr. HUME, the motion was acceded to.

PUBLIC *WORDS.

Sir JOHN NEWPORT, after a few preparatory
observations, moved the following Resolutions:
That the sale of the works published by the Record Com-
mission, from the commencement of discontinuance of distribu-
tion of such works to the Members of this House, under- the
Treasury Minute of 1810, bath produced no more than the sum
of 3,3541. 9s. 6d. being an annual produce of not quite 5091.
during a period of nearly twelve years, subject to deductions for
charges of sale.
" That the object of public utility will be better consulted by
reverting to the former usage of distribution of such works u
are particularly connected with the %Jaws and Constitution,
rather than by the application of any sums of such small amount,
in diminution of expenses attending on the publication thereof."

After a desultory conversation, in which Mr. C.W.
WYNN, Sir J. MACKINTOSH, Mr. G. BENNET, Mr.
BRIGHT, Mr. MowcK, d Mr. F. ROBINSON took a
part, the Resolutions were agreed to.
Sir J. NEWPORT then gave notice that he would,
on Tuesday next, move for the appointment of a
Committee to examine into the best mode of carry-
ing into effect the Resolutions just agreed to.

respect to.tba rsitionerttion gor .teeneXkotatb.).
fen, ullaffistoott that the Bank would itnnia,
muneratiotsfrom the assents,, but they would requu
the usual'reentinittab.uh.. tnetely from the disietits.
Mr. GRINFILL mid; that he should mat ter-
tainlY resist lily Claim for Womunersaloti on the part
of the Bel* for conducting these mestere. The Bank
had already received enough through 'other sources
for transacting the pubiic busing* flesteuld no*
move, according to his ttotite,Tor an account of all
sums paid by the Public to the Bank ail' reward for
services, labours, or management, ukson loans, or
funding Exchequer Bills,. or eq tratriferes from
year 1793 to 1821, distinguishing the amount e
year, and the whole aggregate sum.
Mr. MANNING complained that the Hon..Geti.
tleman had in his absence alluded tea, Bank Direc.
tor (he supposed himself), in a manner that was un-
necessary, on the subject of the Bank transactions,
When the Hon.• Member came forward with a clause
(if he so intended) to oppose the intended remunera-
tion to the Bank, he (Mr. Manning) should certain*
state.his reasons why the House ought not to adopt
the Hon. Gentleman's views on the occasion. Perhaps
the House were not aware that the twenty-six year?
accountsjor which the Hon. Member bad mov4,
respecting the remuneration received by the Bang,
were already on their table. They had been pre-
sented by one of the officers of the Bank; at the bar
of that House, in May, 1818, and were subsequently
printed and distributed. The motion was unnecessary.
Mr. GRENFELL disclaimed meaning anything
uncourteous to the Hon. Gentleman, and he should
now withdraw his motion, and let it stand over till
to-morrow, if the Hon. Gentleman desired any delay.
He must,-however, say, that on occasions when he
found the public interests linked with the affairs of
ithe Bank, he should not think it necessary to defer
any observations he had to make upon the subject,
until he saw a Bank Director in his place. He must
repeat what he had often before said, tlat in the
Bonk affairs his complaint was not against the Direct-
tors, but against the Government. On all occasions
in which he thought the public interests were likely
to be affected by arrangements between those parties,
he should exercise the right of observing upon them,
without awaiting the arrival of any Honourable Di-
rector, though he had the utmost wish to be cour-
teous to all of them.—The motion was agreed to.
Lord FOLKESTONE presented a Petition from
Mr. P. B. Bouverie, of Craven-street, Westminster,
who was a trustee for a person holding Navy Five
per Cents. who was now out of the kingdom. The
Petitioner, who was a bona fide trustee for an absent
person, prayed that he might have the power of ex-
pressing his dissent (if he should be so advised) after
the 16th of March.

Mr. LUSHINGTON said, that a clause might
perhaps be prepared to enable the Bank to recognise
a bona Me trustee, in whose name Stock stood, so as
to afford relief to the Petitioner; but to-morrow he
should have it in his power to speak decisively upon
the subject.
After a few words from Mr. BUTTERWORTH and
Lord FOLICRSTONR, the Petition was laid on the table,
and ordered to be printed.

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• IL '4 That, upon tho importation or eitY-liplilts made or dis-
tilled So Arched ham eatn or tram Magid qr Venetallad, it PT •
dile alleethe geth of February, mu, and seileh ikon toe ware-
Missed In Ireland, and esperted from theme to • any pima
drawback
apt Great Britain, there shall be allowed and paid a drawback
of 4sd. and tin mass emits every gallon °Catch spirits, far and
la reepeat of the on the malt mod and consumed in
making of aide? la lion and instead of all drawbacks
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awl made .da such liplike in respect of such
tiny, by say Aet ar kets In gsree in Trelind ; and that on all
rn. smalls or dallied in hiked hien awn or grain, malted or
anildsd, at Jay these alter the said Mt day of February, and
inothhili all dodge haploid by law dieresis shall be paid, and
width shill be atipleird front Irelmd, otherwise than trim his
's waviness', marl pleat except Great Britain, there
be Mewed and paid a drawback of es. told. for every
Imam of itakesiria a strength not less than that of oar- to
100 lose hygrometer , being, according to law, seven per
gilts
melon shale prose by 's hydrometer, in lieu f all draw-
sacks allowed or made pays ' au arch spirits under any Act
be Acts in force in Ireland." •
7. a That from and after the 25th day of February,lB22, the
sant of 4s. British currency (part of the drawback or allowance
of lea made payable by an Act made in the 59th year of his
hie Majesty King George the Third, on every barrel of malt
made in Ireland, and exported to any other place. than Great
llititalni, and also, the sum of 2s. 9d. British currency (part of
thil drawback or allowance of 9s. 9d. made payable by the said
/ta),oo every barrel of.beer or ate made in Ireland and exported
to any other place than Great Britain, shall be repealed. and
shall cease and determine ; and that, from and after the said 25th
day of February,lB22, instead of an former drawbacks on malt,
or sm beer or ale made in Ireland, and exported to any other
plate than Great Britain, there shall be paid to every person who
shall legally export from Ireland, to any other place than Great
Britain, any malt, or strong beer or ale made or brewed in Ire-
land, the drawbacks and allowances following : that is to say,
" For every barrel of such malt containing four bushels
Winchester measure, the sum of ins. British currency; and
for every barrel of such beer or ale, the sum of 7s. British
currency, and no more."
8. " That, from and after the 25th day of February, 1822,
the countervailing duty of Ss. 6d. imposed by an Act made in
the 59th year of his late Maiesty, upon Irish malt imported or
brought into Great Britain Irons Ireland, shall cease and deter-
mine, except as to any arrear thereof; andthat in lieu thereof
the following duty of Excise shall be charged, levied, cot-
kcted, and paid :
" For and upon every bushel of malt made in Ireland,
and imported or brought from thence into Great Britain
unground, an Excise countervailing duty of 9s. ed. and
that upon the exportation from Great Britain to Ireland,
after the said 25th day of February, 1822, of any malt made
in Great Britain, there shall be allowed and given a draw-
back equal in amount to this said countervailing duty pay-
able on malt made in Ireland and imported Into Great Bri-
tain, and no more."
" 9. That, from and after the 25th day of February, 1822,
the sum of 4s. British currency, on every barrel of malt captain-
ing four bushels, Winchester measure, made in Great Britain, •
and imported from thence into Ireland (part of the countervail-
ing duty of 14s. on every such barrel, granted by an Act made
in the 59th year of his late Majesty King George the '['bird, and
of the equivalent drawback on the exportation front Ireland to
Great Britain of any malt made in Ireland), shall be repealed,
and shall cease and determine ; and that, from and after the said
25th day of February, 1822, there shall be charged, for and upon
every such barrel of malt made in Great Britain, and imported
from thence, after the said 25th day of February, 1822, directly
into Ireland, the countervailing duty or sum of los. British cur-
rency, and no more, In lieu and full satisfaction of all counter-
vailing duties whatsoever payable on such male, under or by
virtue of any Act or Acts of Parliament in force in Ireland ; and
that, upon the exportation from Ireland to Great Britain of any
malt made in Ireland, there shall be allowed and given a draw-
back equal in amount to the countervailing duty so made iay-
able on- malt made in Great Britain and imported into Ireland."
10. " That, from and after the 25th day of February, 1828,
the countervailing duty of 16s. itd. imposed by an Act made in
the S9th year of his late Majesty King George 111. upon Irish
strong beer, ale, or mum, imported or brought into Great Bri-
tain directly from Ireland, shall cease and determine, except as
to any arrear thereof; and that in lieu thereof the following duty
of Excise shall be levied, charged, collected, and paid :
" For and upon every barrel, consisting of thirty-six gal-
lons English beer measure, of Irish strong beer, ale, or
mum, which shall be imported or brought into Great Bri-
tain directly from Ireland, an excise countervailing duty of
140. Rd. and that upon the exportation from Great Britain
to Ireland, after the said 95th day of February, 1822, of
any strong beer, ale, or mum, made in Great Britain, there
shall be allowed and paid a drawback equal in amount to
the said countervailing duty so payable on strong beer, ale,
or mum, made in Ireland, and imported into Great Britain,
and no more."
11. " That, from and after the 25th day of February, 1822,
the sum of 2s. 9d. British currency, on every barrel of beer or
ale, containing thirty-two gallons, brewed or made In Great
Britain, and imported from thence into Ireland (part of the
countervailing duty of 9s. ed. on every such barrel of beer or
ale, granted by an Act made in the 59th year of his late Ma..
jesty King George the Third, and of the equivalent drawback
on the exportation from Ireland to Great Britain, of beer or
ale made or brewed in Ireland), shall be repealed, and shall
cease and determine ; and that, front and after the said 25th day
of February, 1822, there shall be charged for and upon every
such barrel of beer or ale brewed or made in Great Britain, and
imported from thence after the said 25th day of February,lB22,
directly into Ireland, the countervailing duty or sum of 7s. Bri-
dals currency, and no more, In lieu and full satisfaction of all
*countervailing dudes whatever, payable on such beet or ale, un-
der or by virtue of any Act or Acts of Parliament in force in
Ireland • and that upon the exportation from Ireland to Great
1 Britain, the said 25th day of February, 1822, of any beer
or ale brewed in Ireland, there shall be allowed and given a
drawback equal in amount to the countervailing duty so payable
beer or ale made or brewed in Great Britain, and imported
into Ireland."
12. "'That, from and after the 25th day of February, 1822,
the several countervailing duties imposed by an Act made in
the first year of present Majesty, upon Irish spirits imported
or brought f reland into England, or from Ireland into
Scotland, or f
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Ireland into Scotland and from Scotland into
I England, ease and determine, except as to any arrear
ithereof; and that, in lieu thereof, the following duties of Excise
shall be charged, levied, collected, and paid :
" Far and upon every gallon, English wine measure, of
I Irish spirits, which shall be imported or brought front Ire-
land into England, at any time after the said 25th day of
February, 1822, at a strength not exceeding seven per ten.
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