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London, England, 1801-05-07 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS..

HOUSE OF LOADS. WEDNESDAY. MAY 6.

The Hon. HENRY ERSKINE was further heard
on behalf of the Befpondent, is the Appeal Caufe,
Fultarton si. Dalrymple, from two to five o'clock ;
when the further hearing was adjourned to this
day at two o'clock. •
Campbell's Divorce Bill was reported, and the
Amendments made in the Committee rejeeed ;
when new Amendments were made.(the Baftardi-
fang (laufe being firuck oat of the Bill) ; the fame
were reported and agreed to, and the Bill ordered
to be engrafted, and read a third time on Friday.
The further confideration of Mrs. Additim's
Divorce Bill is put off till Taefday.
The L,oto CHANCELLOR left the Woolfack, and
Paid he race at the initance of the Noble Lord
whole Bill Rood for commitment that day, to
move that the Order be difcharged and a new one
made. That Noble Lord, his Lordfhip afored the
Houfe, was extremely anxious that the Bill fhould
p to the Committee, bait, as it was intended to
introduce various new CLinfes and Amendments,
it was thought aecefary to take a little more time
to confider them maturely, after which he hoped
fo to &ape and fettle it as to make the Bill a falu-
tary and prudent meafare. His Lordfhip added
a few more general obfervations, and tLen moved
to difeharge the Order ; which being agreed to,
his Lordship moved, That the Bill be referred to
a Committee of the whole Houfe on Friday.
The feveral Bills on the Table were read a page
each.-.-Adjounaed.

have been directly negatived. If, on the contrary,
he had been of opinion, as Tome Gentlemen ap-
peared to be, that the ineligibility of peernns in
Holy Orders was clear and undoubted, he fhould
have acted differently from them. The motion de-
claring the ineligibility might have been feparated
from that for the new Writ- It might have been
agreed to, and a Bill brought in upon it. The
objection made by the Right Hon. Gentleman, the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, to this mode of pro-
cedure, appeared to him quite frivolouhas it would
apply to every Bill brought in on a Refolution of
the Houfe. He did not mean to objea to the mo-
tion ; on the contrary, he was happy that it had
Leen made. To a certain extent it should have his
cordial fupport ; for he was clearly of opinion that
perfons in Holy Orders, and holding benefices in
the Church, ought to be declared ineligible ter a
feat in that Houfe. But he coddled that he en-
tertained very ftrong doubts whether a mice who
has received ordination, may not, or ought not to
be allowed to lay afide his clerical charaaer, and
on fo doing to become eligible. This, however he
did not mention as any objection in the prefent
Rage of the bnfinefs. He confelTed that the bias
of his mind at prefent was (Iron& in favotw'of the
The Coossisittes of Ways and ?Atm was Napalmed to Teiday. right of the Clergy to abdicate their clerical char
The Cwascexsoa of the Exoticism role, in i rafter; but though the Bill fhould be made to ez-
eonfequence of what had pallid in the Houfe on a tend to all who have ever held that (la:after, he
late debate, and in purl-pence of his notice of yef-; did not pledge 'shard/ to oppofe it.. If this, how-
terday, to move for leave to bring in a Bill for re- ever, on farther examination fhould be his opinion,
moving doubts relPeaing the eligsWlity of perfons' or that of any other Gentleman, an opportunity
in Hoty Orders to a Scat in parliament. On the would offer, when the Bill came to be fully before
principle of the propoitkn to be fubmitted to the the Houfe, to fuggea an amendment conformable
Houk there could, he conceived, be no doubt, and ! to this opinion.
any doubts as to the manner of 7iving effea to this I The CHMICILLOR of the Ere:grown in expla.
principle, would be bell confidered when the Bill nation Rated, that the Hon. Gentleman had ant-
ra= to pafs through its different Rages. With- . taken his argument againft bringing in the Bill in
nut, theref we, going into ail diCcuffi-n at percent, this cafe on a refolution of the }look. He had
he thould eortent himielf with moving 6r leave to Objected to this mode merely becaufe the prefent
bung in a Bill to prevent doubts refpeftir.g the eli- , is a cafe of privilege of the Houk.
of pert= ia Holy Orders to a Seat in the t Mr. Si son thcught it would be equally unfair
khnife. . as inexpedient to lay downg:seral print:levee;
The S Mat r. proceeXing to put the queftion, on (peeing the ineligibility of in Holy
the in-Qvis from the Chair, and at the fame time to draw a line of daiaaime

HOUSE OF COM:VON&

Mr. A BICTT moped that the Report of the COITIRI't,ft for
the protrulgatior of the S..aetttes be referred to a Commmet of
the whole Hoofe to-mar:owl Agreed to.

The FMCS and Forfeiture Bill was reed a fccond time.
The Maria AdjiltAnef Hill, the Militia Pay and Cloathlog
IRII, and the Militia Subaltern Officers BEI went through a
Committee of the whole Hsofe, and the Report ordered to be
received to-morrow.
Mr. BIAGGI moved for leave to bring in a Bill to exempt
Lie Members of both Hades o. Parliament from the payment
of certain Daties.--Leave was even. and Mr. Corry, Mr. Vasa
&tam and the Chaneclior of the Eschequ.r defied to prepare
the Came.
The Bill to exempt Sea Elephant Oil from Doty in Sales by
411affitior was mad a third time and paired.
The Curates' Ho& Dory Exemption Bill was poftponed till

in favour of a particular clafs to a feat in the Houfe.
Be hoped, therefore, the application of the Bil
would be general and anreferved.
Mr. Su ItIDAN WaS furprikd that the Bill floukl
be uthered in on the ground that doubts ezifted, ,
fusee in his humble apprehenfion, this was one of
the fubjeas on which not even the shadow of doubt
had been Itartech True it was there was a diffe-
rence of opinion betwixt the different parties, but
both had been equally certain of the right which
was the ground in difpute. The one was fully con
winced that there was no law or precedent which
could exclude perfons in Orders from a feat in Par-
liament, while the other was no lets certain that
the whole law and ufage of Parliament was adverfe
to the exigence of this right. It was flrange, there-
fore, in his opinion, why, amid this diverfity of
opinion, the queftion was not brought to iffue by
a vote of the Route, and he was perfnaded it was
becaufe Gentlemen on the other fide had their
doubts on the fubjeft, that it was net brought to
this ufual telt of troth. For his part, he, who was
perfnaded the Clergy had the right, and who re-
quired much Rionger realms to be adduced than
any hitherto prefented, before he could content to
deprive a refpeaable part of the community of a
great contlitutional franchife,couldnotagree to dif-
, pate of the queftion by acceding to the prefent
Bill.
Mr. BRAGGI6 after a few. rettrarks, with a par-
ticular reference to what the laft Speaker had ad-
duced, alluded to the perfenalities which had been
introduced into the difcnEGon, and expreffed his
trial, that the fubjea would, in its future Rages,
be confidered merely as a dry conflimtional quef-
tion—independent of all perfonal feeling--uncon-
neded with all party eonfiderations.
Mr. Slit/10AM explained; as did Mr. BRAGGY
and Lord Tx sm./ in fucceffion.
Mr. pats had no difficulty in agreeing to the
Bill, as he was anxious to keep Clergymen from
ever having a feat in the Houle. He concurred
with the doarine of their indelible char-after, and
contended that it was as impoffible to unrobe'them
as it was to make a blackamoor white, or to unde-
bauch a woman after her virtue was deftroyed !
Lord HAWLESSUIT defended the condua of
thole who, convinced of the ineligibility of perfons
in Holy Orders, had yet voted on a former night
for the previous queftion. Though their own opi-
nion was fixed, they refpeaed the doubts of others -
and that fuch doubts exifted appeared evident from;
Rufhworth's cafe, and fill more from Mr. Hat-
fell's reports ,a Gentleman who was better acquain-
ted with the law of Parliament than moft other
perfons.
Mr. Nicttooxs,Colonel. MARTIIII, Mr. W. SMITH,
and Mr. Hoist:sum each Paid a few words in fup-
port of the motion.
After which it was agreed to without a divilion.
11L1SH FINANCES.

The Honfe in a Committee on the Ira Stamp
Duty Bill,
Mr. Co Lay fiid, as the produce of the prefent
Bills was to be applied to the difcharge of the in.
terell of the Debt contraaed by Ireland, he fhould
move to make thofe taxes nt, which in
Ireland were annual taxes. e'realwaansethen proceed.
ing to propofe a confiderable increafe in the Stamp-
Duties, when
Mr. BRAGGE rote and aid, he believed it was
contrary to the rules of the Houfe to propofe taxes
in a Committee. _ _ _

Mr. Coate faid, he had the ntmoll deference
for the opinion of the Hon. Gentleman. He was
himself unacquaintedwith the forms of that Houfe;
and he was defirons for nothing more than to ad-
here to its rules and orders; but he had been in-
formed by perfons, whom he fuppored to be ac-
quainted with the forms of that Route, that the
method he was then purfuing was conformable to
its rules.

Mr. O'Hara could not fay whether the Hen.
Gentleman abed ftrialy conformable to the forms
:aid down or not, but he thought it very improper
n a Committee ionfilling of io few Members, to
attempt to raife the burthens of the people of Ire-
and in fo great a degree. For his part, he would
"bjat to any measure which could tend to pre-
lude the renovation of the Iriat conilitution. The
.iefolution.s propoled to the Committee, by mak.
ng the taxes permanent, which were orly annual,
-nun tend in a great meafnre to the continuance
the Union, from which he law, that ruin would
-trite to Ireland, and much injury to this country.
Sir Jona P fubmitted to the Committee
.1 it was proper, when only fix or even Members
were prefent, to pafs taxes to the amount theft
now propofed went, to be levied upon the people
of Ireland. He was perfuaded the Honourable
Mover did not with to take any improper advan-
tage of the abfence of Members, and he was alto
perfuaded, though be fbould be acting in con.
formity to the regulations of the Houfe, yet that
he would have no oblation to poftpone the bun-
nen to a future day. • The tax which he under.
Rood the Hon. Gentleman had in agitation upon
Policies of Infurance, he apprifed him, it was his
intention to oppofe whenever it came under dif-
culEon, as it would tend to the annihilation of in-
nuance in that country. He could by no means
agree with what had been Paid on a former night:
That the tax propofed would put infurance
on a fair footing with regard to this country ;and
I whiff& it gave Ireland every proper advantage,
would prevent perfons removing from this country
with their capitals—and thereby, in confequence
of there being no duty on infurance, injure the
infurers in this country."—He (Mould, however,
referee his oppofition until the measure came un-
der ditcuffion.

The Smelt thought aCommittee of the whole
Houle was the regular way to propofe the making
taxes permanent which had been before annuaL
He therefore conceived the Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Corry) regular in point of form; but from the
thinnefs of the Committee, he thought it would
be belL to poilpone the bullnefs. He therefore
recommended, that the Committee do report pro.
refs, and afk leave to fit again ; in the mean
umc he would inf6rm himfelf better on the fubjetk.
After a few words from Mr. Coeur a:td the
&taut's, the bufsnefs was raponed to Friday.—
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