Star.
London, England, 1823-05-06 00:00:00

MISSIAGR FROM THE LORDS.

A message from the Lords announced that their
Lordships had agreed to several Private Bills, (for
which see Lords' Report.)
Colonel BARRY, previous to the reading of the
Order of the Day for the Committee on the conduct
o the Dublin Sheriff, begged leave to call the atten-
tion of the House to a paper which he held in hishand.
. Sir J. NEWPORT reminded the Right Honour-
Ole Gentleman that the House had determined the
Committee should sit at six o'clock ; it was then nearly
seven o'clock, and he could not consent that any
other business should take precedence of it.
Colonel BARRY thought, that as the paper to
which he had alluded related to the subject of in-
quiry,
he should have been permitted to read it to
the House. He therefore felt no obligation to thank
the lion. Baroueifor his courtesy. He must leave the
Right Hun. Gentleman in possession of the House,
but would move that the paper be produced and read
after the Report should be brought up. He. wished
to state, however, that he. had just received a letter
from one of the witnesses summoned on the inquiry,
stating his utter inability to defray the expense c f a
journey to London, to obey the order of the Hi:use.
By the absence of the witness the justice of the case
might suffer. There certainly was one snoee by
which his attendance could be compelled, namely,
by causing him to be taken into custody by the Ser-
jeant at Arms; but that would be productive cf much
trouble, and a considerable expenditure of the public
money. • lie trusted something would be one to-
wards enabling poor witnesses to attend the House.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee
of the whole House, to inquire into the conduct of

THE SHERIFF OF DUBLIN.

Sir R.. HERON was called to the Chair.

staled teat 1) ins of hkitlettnentiFere the Commiligicir
Grand .very width was sworn In 41Paramip. kat. -ritedhas they
were takes Nway from them without baring** upon?
-r4 did.
What became of them thee—Therms retura•L
Wan they retetneti to the Grand Jury the secostria, lit the
11ocittito as cm the faint exactly.
State the differenee?-1-There was an' error in them which I
Illsenveted and pointed out to- the Crows Solicitor.- -
Colonel BARRY was then proteeding to put an-
other question, when
The CHAIRMAN requested the Hon. Member
would give the short-band writer a little More time.
The examination was again resumed.
You state that there was an.alteration made In the bill of in-
dictment after its having been taken from before the Grand
Jury; who made that alteration?—The Crown Solicitor.
Do you consider that a person has a right to alter a record of
the Court; have you ever known an instance of bllb of indict-
ment being ahered-while under consideration of a Grand Jury?
.—I have.
With or without the leave of the Court?--Witbout leave.
Wu the alteration made by the Grand Jury?—lt was not.
By whom was it made ?—I believe by myself; I tint disco-
vered the error.
What was the error?—ft merely charged the offence to have
been committed in the fourth year of the King's reign instead of
the third. _ .

Several questions were here put, but in so low a tone as to
be unintelligibk m the gallery.
Were any other alterations made 7—No.
Then it was merely an alteration in form, not in substance ?
Haat tly so.
Was there a ly indoriement on the indictment?—None.
r. Scants* T.—Was the alteration in the indkunrat made
befi re k wen to the Grand Juryl•—Yes, whilst the WitOnaell
were amine I.
hen it oral before the Grand Jury found the bill?, Yes.
Hr .7. STEWART here put a aeries of quesdons,lna in so
low a tone th it we are unable even to state their. purport. In
cc nsequence of one of them,
Mr. GOOLIIIMIN suggested to the House that
tl e course of examination which they were then put;
wing was not relevant to the subject before it. He
had -listened attentively to the questions which had
been put, and he really could not see how they af-
fected the conduct of the Sheriff of Dublin. It was
to inquire into that conduct that the Committee
had been appointed, and although he had no wish
to interfere with the right which each Honourable
Member had to put what question he pleased, yet he
hoped that the inquiry would not be rendered inter-
minable by entering into an examination which could
not affect the proceedings of the Sheriff.
Sir R. HERON said, that it was almost impossible
to draw the line with regard to the relevancy of ques-
tions, and their application to the subject before the
House. It was impossible to say what any particu-
lar question might lead to, and he therefore felt that,
wheneve an objection occurred, he could not do bet-
t,r than avail himself of the opinion of the name.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS, Colonel Barmy, Mr. Gaut-
BURN, Mr. IIUTCHINSON, and Mr. SCARLET?, seve-
rally offered a few observations.
Mr. WYNN thought that the general convenience
would be best consulted by confining themselves to
the con luct of the Sheriff.
Sir J. 'MACKINTOSH said, that there was no
doubt that the conduct of the Sheriff was the object
of their inquiry ; bur it was impossible to determine
how far any particular qnestion might or might not
bear upon that subject. He thought that there could
be no other limit put than the dibcretion of Honour-
able Gentlemen.
The witness was recalled and the etanienation reamed.
Da you know Mr. Chambers?—Answer inaudiblq,
Is the panel signed in the first instance, or &Newlin's, In
Court ?—,lt is signed In the first instance.
Were yny present at the time the Grand Jury rethitd7--An-
swer inaudible.
Do you know Thomas Fry I.—The name Is err* panel.
Do ym know a person of the name of Moore ?—I have seen
him, but have no acquaintance with biln.
Have you met him since?--Yes.
Do you know that Mr. Moores brother-is-law is the Provost
of Trinity College, Dublin ?—I cannot say.
Several questions were here put to witness as to his having
shaken hands with Mr. Moore, and as to the degree of ac-
qtaintance which be considered that act to imply; but the en-
s% ers were inaudible.
Were you present in Court when, in consequence of a Juror
1 eing withdrawn, an announcement was made of an es-qiicio
information?—l was not in Court. _

The witness here withdrew. It may be proper to state,
that in reporting the conclusion of this witness's evidence, many
questions have b.,ten necessarily Omitted. A great part of the
examination was carried on in so low a tone, that we thought
it better to leave it out entirely, rather than run the hazard of

Mr. J. WI LLIA NIS moved that Terence O'Reilly
be called to-the bar.
Terence O'Reilly, after some delay. appeased at die bar.
Mr. Wat.t.Laass.—What are yon by profession ?—I am an
attorney.
How long have you been so t—Six years ; ever since the year
1807—(A loud laugh). Witness corrected himself by saying
that he meant 16 yeas.

ne _ _ yea....
Where have you ,resided during that thoe?—ln Dublin.
I wish to know whetbir witness resided in Dublin atiibe time
of the late Commission Grand Jury t I did.
Do you remember thetitne when the bills wire presented to
the Grand Jury?—Perfectly.
Were you in Court at thattinie ?—I was frequently in Court
during the first and second day.
Did you see Sheriff Thorpe there ?—Frequentl. •
Were you present when the bills were ignored .—I was.
Were you in the Office of Messrs. Green and Meow the Clerks
of the Crown ?—I was.
Were there any other persons there t—Tbere were:
Can you recollect any of them by name?—'There were a great
many persons going and returning. The conversation eras chiefly
directed to a Gentleman of the name of Wird, In the profession
of the law.
Was Sheriff Thorpe in the Office at that time ?—He was.
Did he say anything to Ward in your bearing?—He said, " I
have managed this business well, for the bills are not found.—
That business done, I have nothing more to de berg."
Did he say anything More t—Not that I recollect. •
How was he dressed 7—ln the Siterifsaccoutrementes=
cocked bat and sword, If e afterwards took off his hat and
and put on a surtont. •
That expression was not addressed to you?—No. ' • •
Did you know any person besides Hr. Ward who was peel
sent ?—Yes ; a Mr. a. •
Who is he ?—An attorney.
How many persons were in the rown?..More than one or two.
How many ?—There were four.
Any clerks belonging to the Office ?—I am sure there were. •
Did Sher" Thorpe say this in a loud tone of voice?—He did.
Did he speak as loud as you are speaking now?—No; per-
haps not so loud.
Then he spokrit loud enough to be beard by every one in the
room t—l cannot say that • I should think not.
Do you know Mr. Ward ?—I do.
Does he knew you?—He does.
Had you any conversation with him as to the finding of the
Jury?—l do not recollect.
Did you ever mention to any one that you bad a Conversation
'with Mr. Ward ?...No.
_ _

The CH AIRMAN begged leave to state to the
Committee, that the inquiry would be much facili-
tated were Hon. Gentlemen to propose the questions
which they intended to ask through the Chair; and
that Hon. Gentlemen would, while on their legs, put
all the questions which they had in contemplation to
demand ; which would, he thought, prevent a recur-
rence of the interruptions by Which the Committee
bad been on the last night impeded.
Mr. BANKS thought it would be contrary to Par-
liamentary usage to adopt the suggestion of the
Honourable Baronet.
The CHAIRMAN would be glad taw know in
what that which he had recommended was contrary
to Parliamentary usage ?
Mr. BANKS said it was contrary to Parliamentary
usage for Hon. Members to remain on their legs while.
they asked all their questions—(a laugh.)
Benjamin Ricky was then called iu, and examined
by Colonel BARRY.
Have you brought the returns ordered by the House =I have.
The returns were then given in, and their titles
read by the Clerk. They were copies of the Panels
of the Dublin Commission Grand Juries for the years
1819, 1820, 1821, 1822, and for Feb 1833.
Also an account of the number of Common a-
men summoned on the same; how many of whom
were sworn ; how many fined for non-actemdance, &c.
The returns were ordered to be prieted.
The examination was then resumed.
By Colonel Dinar.-7a you' teidasoay ou Friday lass yea

Vibe; did you Ent potion this eaaversatioa T—l awe say ;
I think when I was applied to as to giving evideace to aisedbar
fact upaa whids I was not competent to give asides°, ; sad in
stating my incompetency I awned to this anwersedem •
Who applied to you to give that evidence 7—Mr. Onsidlm
Who is Mr. Costello ?—An attorney.
Was it relating to this inquire—l do not know. TINTO&
Nifty is, that it bed some reference to is.
To whom did you 'nation this fact after yearbaleseassai-
L catat it to M. Cmtello ?—I did at made, this fact at 11r.

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dttiBeelhucaid•
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,abuqt /Leonid not give evidence upon tkat.stobjeei; I rue i- *I did the.builuese cleverly."
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to teestigorltiestion
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Lyon the minutes of the pt'eCediugs,
as a
WhiVerai die first person to whont/cosiassaeloilliishitfiala , withdraw.
let ass Istvion answer.—To young Mk.; 'tram.. !1•44,:, -,:.,-..: . .-, .
Then sap I to understalid that you Paver mentiostodak V Watt,. ftatantleJ
say human being before you connubnieited it wto.ystotig:.W.•
.aatila said That
rteataha,tisetittteb,etrohaasdk asordigihit,ueastios ans3u,
Pluakett ?—I will not say that; I may have mentioned it to, 1184
thotesectacncet.words in yonr Hato.
indeed I believe I have conversed with others-upon• the mailings
ditle...l.liiiiishole truth.
had given, it
the precise words r'f Sheriff Thorpe,
but I do not recollect any individual by name to whom I
,metes..
but that
boned It before Monday last, and then I communicated it to Mr. - -ine ness having been recalled, stated that he
Plunkett, jun.
at least the sense itt which the words which Mr. S'l Then you believe that you mentioned it to other persons?—l
le-
belleve so ; hut I cannot recollect to whom. • riff
mr. 'Chore
Gottt,
tyhtawd,uviseddyionn
uhsei s pre •
What induced you to mention it to Mr. Costello ?—lie asked
me if •I was acquainted with a certain circumstance.
meet to Mr. Make ?—i think to.
What circumstance ?—Answer not heard in the gallery.
Sheriff Thorpe? Not in the lout.
Whets was the conversation with Mr. Costello?—On Mon-
Its answer
atonyadionueshttionof
ftrh:nistrmottisr.
Doxhavitaigw,b:ti.tnnett,ses
said
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day last.
he had not had any conversation with Sheriff risurpe,
By Mr. Wu.taasts—Wlsere were you when the bills were
ignored?—ln the Mice, as I said before. _ .
-- - having ' - ----

Had you beta at that-Olko free the time you first entered it
until the Sheriff appeared there?-4 had been as far as the Court.
How soon after she Sheriff's communication did you ascertain
that the bills were ignored?—About three-quarters of an Dour
afterwards.
By Mr. Beowntow.—Yon attend here, I take it for ranted,
by an order of the House?—No.
Yoe are a volunteer, then ?.—I am not.
Where have you been residing since you came to London?—
At No. 5, Northumberland-street. I have been at a hotel.
At what hotel ?—I do not know the name of it.
Would you knew if you heard it ?—Yes.
I thought you said you had been residing at No. 5, Northum-
berland-street?—Yes, but I have nut slept there—.(A laugh).
Have you been speaking to any one since you came here,
with reference to the evidence you were to give in this House?
—I have.
To whom ?—I don't know the name of the lawyer.
Could ,you find the way to his residence if you left this place?
—I don't think I could.
Should you know his name if it was mentioned to yoo—l
should.
Was Wilma Blake?—Yes.
Should you know him if he was pointed out to you.--(A cry
of Order!)
Who sent you to Mr. Blake ?—The Attorney-General.
1 When *did you see him ?—I called on the Attorney-General
'on Monday last, to tell him that I had arrived! (A laugh.) He
thanked me for my prottipt attendance, and sent me to Mr.
Blake's.
What do you mean by prompt attendance?—That I bad at-
tended without requiring any order from the House.
What conversation had you with Mr. Blake : did he tell you
what you were to say here ?—No, he desired me to write down
my testimony, and I did so.
What has become of that written paper ?—I dots% know, I
left it with Mr. Blake.
By Mr. Baouottast—lle knew Mr. Ellis (of Dublin) better
than any other Member of this House. He bad been in Cotton-
garden.—[Witness probably mistook Cotton for Covent-garden.]
By a Maamm—Witness knew nothing of Sheriff Thorpe, ex-
cept from his dress.
By Sir J. Macmorosn—The Sheriff spoke loud, and in an
exulting tone of voice.
By a Mamma—He had told young Mr. Plunkett, that he
need not attend, who told him, be must attend, as there would
be an Order of the House for that purpose.
By another Manexa.--Did you hear the whole of the con-
versation between Mr. Warde and the Sheriff ?—1 did.
Vou said that the Sheriff mentioned that no bills were found,
and yet you say that the bills were not ipored for three-quarters
of an hour ifter7—l said that the SherM had stated that no bills
were found, or that no bill would be found.
Do you know whether the Sheriff had any opportunity of cam.
municating with the Grand Jury ?—1 do not.
The next witness called was Dill= M'Namara, an attorney.
He was examined in the first instance by Mr. Scaaeerr.
Were you in Court when the Grand Jury were sitting with,
the bill before them ?—I was; I saw Sheriff Thorpe in Court
during the day at various times.
. Do you remember seeing him at any time In the Clerk of the
Pleas' (*ice ?—I did, Sir.
What date?—About three &flock.
Did he sallnything?—He said there were no bills, or words
to that effect.
• Did you bear any remark made upon that subject?—Yes;
Warde asked if bins were done? and, the Sheriff replied No,
make your mind easy on the result.
• Was there anything particular In his tone?—He seemed well
pleased at it.
'ag Mete * 'list of the Grand Jury in the Office ?—Yes,
there was. •
Did you knife any of them?—Yes.
Can you take epos yourself to say whether any remarks were ,
made as to the political character of the Jury?—Yes, it was said.
there were 15 or 17 Orangemen on the list.
How soon after were the bills Ignored?—They were publicly,
ignored about an hour after.
What dO you mean by publicly ?—lt was publicly known. '
Where did you and O'Reilly first go when tbu came to Low I
dos?—We went to bed!—(A laugh).
By Mr. BiOWNLOW.-.-YOU aid there were fifteen or seventeen,
Orangemen on the Jury: are you an Orangeman ?—I am not.
Do you belong to any association 7—No ; I was a Precut's°,
seven or eight years ago, but I have not recently attended their
meetings.
Do rou recollect any coaversation you ever held with a Mr.
Dlaasidd as to packing a Jury fora client of yours?
Mr. MAR'L'IN rose to order, and the witness hav-
ing withdrawn, he objected to this question, tending
as it did in his mind, to criminate the witness.
Mr. SCAItLETT saw no objection to-the question,
but great inconvenience would arise from an opposite
course. The witness was now asked a question; he'
might, if he thought proper, refuse to answer, and it
would be for the House to say then whether they
would go further.
Mr. MARTIN was surprised at the high tone ex-1
hibited by the Honourable and Learned Member.
The CHAIRMAN said, that really nothing had
been said by Mr. Scarlett in a high tone—nothing
calculated to apply to the personal character pf the
Honourable Member for Galway.
Mr. BROUGHAM said there was really no sub-
stantial difference between the lion. Member 'for Gal-
way and his Hon. and Learned Friend (Mr. Scarlett).
The witness might object to answer a question, the
necessary tendency of which would criminate him-
el£ Had the question beer.—Did you ask the Sheriff
tit pack 'a Jury for you ?—there would be weight in
die argument of the Member for Galway ;Ant here
the question merely . was, whether the witness hid
spoken to the Sheriff as to the packing of a Jury 2
(Cries of No).
After a few observations from Mr. BANICES and
Mr. C. WYNN, the witness was again called in, and
the question was repeated. ,
The witness then replied, that about nine years ago he bad
bear engaged as agent for the defence of. a man, who bad ex-
pressed it wish that he should make application to the Sub-Sheriff
for the purpose of having some of his client's friends on theJury7
iTMs witness communicated his client's desire to Mr. Mansfield,
sot no could not recollect the answer he received; as far as he
wont Fall to mind, it was—" that he (Mansfield) could not aet.
she the affair as desired by the accused; but that the Stun,
Mee or the Castle might be able to do it; for he (Mansfield)
an balt.Shetiff, had not the opportunity to do so." - ,-
M. Baowwww.—Did not Mr: Mansfield intlignantiplejaft
made to him ?—lie did not. . ,
didaet give him what your client offered? I dilly*. .
&ali
eat?—Bemuse he did not do shat I wanted. (Lwelow.)
Twee dime was foepd guilty 7—He was. ,
What became of him 7—He was transported.
who was your client ?—Gallipn. Clerk tor Mr. Stewart flag.
Mr.Bsoosetax.—Whalwas Stewart King7s—One of the hoc
Mien in chaireeri, ' •
"Oa pas Gal /igen ?—itaainieer'S Clieltis 11
lI Mao
s Bad be boom Wag Aker to Mt b 61410 by the
?—I don't know.prior

he was sure of the words . been useds—Wit.nets waver.
dered to withdraw.
l'eter Tomlinson, a shoemaker, residing at the 131ack-nett
near Dublin, was nest examined. Ile stated; that he had heti
near the shop of .a woollen-draper in Dublin, named itssi4
Smith, when a Gentleman came to the shop, and Mr. New
addressed him by " Good morrow, Mr. Sheriff." it was teed
or three days before the trials. la answer to some Obserrations
respecting the trials, the Gentleman, who had been addressed at
the Sheriff, said, that he had the list of the Jury in his pucker
and that he expected as good a Petty Jury as 'he had ~ (;C4lll
Jury. The witness bad not known Mr. Sheriff Thorpe, bur he
had since seen 'lr. Sheriff Cooper, and therefore coootzd
that, as it was not the latter, it must be the former. lie should
know the person who used those words if he saw hint again,
• , for
he had eyed bins particularly.
The nest witness was called in.
Johh MaCennel stated, that on the Tuesday after the rior in
the Theatre he had been at the house of a Mr. &kiwis, wi-re
Sheriff Thorpe was with several other persons, among whom
r was Graham, one of the traverser. Sons: observations i•.,:t
plate respecting their trial, when Sheriff Thorpe declared that
6 he bad an Orange panel in his pocket." Those expression. t:.4
appeared very extraordinary to witness, who had aftcrwarde
spoken of them to several persons.
In answer to several qu.stions from Colonel Baas; wit..os
stated that he had distinctly heard the words.
The witness continued.—The expression I have Stated v..
used in the presence of several persons, and I could not be ma.
taken in its use, even though all those persons bad a &feast
opinion. Some persons in the ro.orhmmeigthhtannomt hyseavier.hriearce:itt.sirl.
don't know if all, but some might not have heard it. I don't
think any one was nearer Sheriff orp
Graham. Sheriff Thorpe was distant from me as far as lam
from the table when he used the expression. The room is not
very large, and the Sheriff spoke rather in a moderate tone of
voice. The canveration which took place could not escape the
hearing of Mr. Graham, though not directed to hint. I under.
stood the nature of the expressions to be of party Orangemen,
for the purpose of trying the recent riots. I was surprised at
the indiscretion of Sheriff Thorpe to use such expressions as
having an " Orange Panel."
By ?Jr. GOULZUkti.•••••I heard the Sheriff use other remarkable
expressions. lie said, " I wish the Devil had the Marquis
Wellesley out of chic !" There were others, the meaning of
which was, that he is " an annoyance," " art old woman."-(e
murmur.)—This is the meaning I attached to what I beard.
This occurred upon the subject of the Orange panel being nos.
dotted. I communicated these expressions on the following day
to Mr. M‘Nally ; and to Mr. Wadden, four or five days theta
conversation took place.
By Mr. Bienant.—The expressions as to the Marquis Wd
Inky were spoken in the presence of others, and he said, a I
wish the Devil had him," as he left the room.
By Mr.Canres.—l should think the greater part of the am
patty heard these observations, but without any remark being
Made; at least I heard none. The name of the Marquis Welles.
ley was mentioned; and it was when Sheriff Thorpe was putting
an his great coat that he said, " I wish the Devil had him."
By Mr.Baowetow.—Wm. Graham beard these observation.
Eight or nine persons were present at this meeting. ,
Wm. Poole was celled in.
The CH Al Li MAN—I am just Informed that Wm. Perk is
met with an accident, and cannot appear.
Colonel BARRY—I ant infortned he was seen walking Mae
streets yesterday.
The CHAIRMAN, to the Seiler* at Arms. The mew
to my inquiry was, that Wm. Poole fell from the mach se es-
tering London yestuday.---He is at No. 6, Downing-stmt.The CHAIRMAN—Let a messenger be forthwith stet ta
No. 6, Downing-street.
Colonel BARRY—Mad In the interim you can call in ball
Cooper. •
Sheriff Cooper examined by Sir C. Hat..—l mamba In
panel of the Grand Jury. I would not have interfered VA
striking the panel, but For the letter, because I considered en
brother Sheriff, as the elder, had the prerogative to do ss. Thee
is an etiquette in sulking Grand Juries. The usual arrumuret
is, that the elder Sheriff strikes the panel without nanowa•
eating it to the junior—the junior doing so the next Tens; Oat
Crown Solicitor applied to me, and I concurred in the peed; he
went through the prepared list of Grand Jurors together Oil
the Sub-Sheriff, who is an attorney. 1 considered souse Or
names exceptionable, and mentioned it to my brother
The names I cannot exactly recollect, but they were
I recollect one particularly. The panel is not founded alllffit
litiml ground, nor was any one excluded from It for suds V
Hee. I acted conscientiously and fairly lb striking the AK
and for the cause of justice. I have seen Sheriff Themelf 1,1
company of the Lore Lieutenant more than once. , ..,_. .
How did he receive him—as a rioter, et otherwhn 1"
__.OPl
he shook Mr. Sheriff Thorpe by the hand, as be al Ihr'sale
Mayor, long since the motion on which I now wpm-
_.....6.
I ask you, Mr. Sheriff, are you looked upon an a
—I am not a party man.
Did you strike the Jury fairly ?—I did.
Without any political feeling or bias ?—Certainly.
By Mr. G IlAlTAN.—Sheriff Thorpe did give the tont 0 Tie
glorious and immortal memory," Etc. Witness objected tenet
or three.nanses, which were struck off the panel, but um m M.
Utica! grounds. Several other names Were ransomed, Lot all a
political grounds.
By Mr. Ptunerrr—Witness thinks some of the Mod Slat
men of strong political feeling respecting the dressing 0(.71
statue, and some were not. The dressing of the statue bar_
prevented, in November, by the Lord Mayor, and a censan7
passed on hint by the Corporation for it. An elecdoe of (k
porators took place soon after, and during theseelectiomfFil
political feeling existed in many of the Guilds, °pedlar •'°`
Guild of Merchants. The Guild of Merchants alma
Will you look at this printed list; was it not WOO 111
persons friendly to the dressing of the statue, te Wita_e.fi,,
of their Sentiments being chosen on the panel?-rorr"
as if it were. .. .
. '
Read it.—Witness—'e The glorious and intm
William the Third." Underneath this—" G
IV b..
times ;" then rah the names of persons so deal
a picture aboveof King William treading on the ..i.l.„„„
The knave was supposed generally to meant hr,Pid_Will
(A loud laugh).—There were some of these " soca 01"""..._ 4,..„
tittles" sworn on the Jury in January—Mr. Stab Ms. ar'n,":,;,
son, Mr. Wood, Mr. C. Olin, Mr. Joseph, Mr. SONO4__A...-
prey, and Mr. Robert Dodge. On the Grand Jury
had been struck off, A Mr. Poole was one. - Bit. 4 4048
...„,.
mired by Mr. Sheriff Thorpe to be put on the Gnash man
before, and received a promise, he believed, to that
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Poole, he beard, had taken a part in the Corpora** I
the measure of dressing the statue in the mooch of • ,_;
about the time when the new Corporators were drat!! 01
chosen. Never beard his brother Sheriff say that IL
•ought to be struck Out of the list of Grand Jurors kw.,
was a Constitution man. it
By Colonel Briar.— In the state of Dublin now,
he possible tp find a Grand Juryman who bad not .., re
opinion ou the question of the statue and the toast/_.... LI!.
opinion that all such persons have formed an opinion "'raj
;ea. He could not think that such persons, girth* a" '`"-
Juty, would perjure illumwlves by giving a false viced
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an occasion. 400
Examined by Mr. BILIOUGIPLAMThe Sheriff was _
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being in.the first instance returned ,by the Common ep_n
the court of. Aldermen. -lie knew of a Sxiety .714
cable Society; many of these were acting Members ant,/
poratinh, though the Society was not within the 011epir,
They often recommended their friends to the ales of a'"
-and 'a* to thenetheir influence to procure dick_ L..,
is number were seat tip by dill COMMON tO dot Palm

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