Star.
London, England, 1801-11-25 00:00:00

M. ILITIA 'BALLOT.

The SPOIL !TART ofli;ltill;CTietici to the Houk; that he
to-morrow, move for leave to bring in a bill to amend
the mode of balloting for Militia Men, preparatory to t►e Ge-
neral Ballot now approaching.
Lord HAwcauuar prefented, porfuant to the Addrefs of
the Houfe, and his Malefly's order thereon, a Copy of the La-
dling Treaty between Great Britain and the Ottoman Porte.
Ordered to lie on the Table.
FINANCES OF IRELAND.

Mr. COSILY role and obierved, that in conic:

quence of the orders of this Houfe on the 3d of
this inn. for the Return of Ellimatcs for the pub-
lic on the feveral branches of mifcel-
laneous fervice in the United Empire, for the three
months commencing the IR of January, 18ot, or-
ders had been of course forwarded to the Official
Departments in that part of the United Kingdom
called Ireland, and the uftial Returns made in
purfuance thereof. But as the forms of thole Re-
turns differed materially in the two countries ; as
fervices in Ireland, which were deemed of the
6rll publicity and importance, mull be confidered,
accordingly to the ufage of the Britiffi Parliament,
of a private nature, and as, by the fame ufage,
the grants for purpofes confidered as public ler-
s ice were voted on Ellimate, while thole of a pri-
vate nature were voted on Petitions, the Returns

made from the Public Offices in Ireland were con.

fequently liable to be confidered as incompatible
with the forms of that Houfe ; and if in that ac-
count they were to be regulated and returned, the
dillancc at which the officers lived, and the length
of time which would elapfe before the documents
could be made out, in conformity to the efta-
bliftled rules of this Houfe, might very much em-
barrafs and protrael the proceedings of Parliament
with reprd to the Finance of Ireland. He in-
stanced the grants ufually made for the mainte-
nance of the Protettant Charter Schools, to the
Truflees of /he Linen Board, and feveral others
confidered in Ireland as of the moll public and im-
portant nature, and always fpecifically recom-
mended in the fpeech from the Throne, though
not fo confidered in the ufage of this country.—
The °bid:l of his riling now to trouble the Houle,
was not with a with to trench upon the ufisal and
eflablifhed forms of Parliamentary proceeding, but
to folicit, as matter of indulgence, the leave of
the Houfe, that the public eflimates for the mit:
cellaneous fervices of the three months, to com-
mence on ill of January next, for that part of the
United Kingdom called Ireland, purfuant to the
order of the 3d of November intl. be allowed to
- be received in the fame form is which the fame
were ufually prefented to the Parliament of Ire-
land. It was his with in every political proceed-
ing, that the forms of every cart in relation to
Ireland, (hould conform aridly to the forms dia.

blifhed in England, and in future it would be his
duty to take care that all public documents rela-
tive to the finances of that country, required by
this Haute, lo long as he fhould have the honour
to fill his prefent fituation (Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer), fhould be in (trig conformity with the
ufages of this Houfe. Mr. Coital, concluded by a
motion to the eft& foregoing.
Mr. SPEAKER obferved to .the Right Honour-
able Member, that it would be his own uuty to
preferve the ufual forms of Parliamentary proceed-
ing, unlefs the Honfe fhould be difpofed to relax
them in this infante.
The CHANCELLOR of the EICHEIZOER conceived
the (Neel of his Right Honourable Friend's mo-
tion to be a with of calling the attention of the
Houle to a peculiar and temporary cafe, refpe4l-
- the Returns made by the Public Offices in
Ireland, and calling on the Houfe for a mere oc-
caftonal and temporary indulgence, with a view
not to difpenfe generally with its own ufual and
eilabliffitd forms of proceeding, hut to prevent the
conform and embarrallinent that would occur to
the Public Offices in Ireland, by being called on
to make out duplicate returns under different forms,
and to Pave the Houle the delay which mutt necef-
lardy protraft its own proceedings, in waiting for
fuch returns. In this point of view, he had no
objection to fupport the motion of his Right Ho-
nourable Friend.
After a few words from Sir JOHN PARNELL. and
Mr. CORRY, the Motion was agreed to.
IRISH PURLIC ACCOUNTS.

Sir JOHN PARNIII.I. exprefred his defire to know
if it was the intention of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man over the way (Mr. Corry) to lay before the
lure at an early day, for the information of
Gentlemen iaterefted in the affairs of that part of
the United Kingdom, the public Accounts thereof,
and to have them printed, as they ufually were
during the esißencc of the Irifh Parliament, in
tam,: for the preparation of Gentlemen interefled
i•a I rifh afrairs, to difetifs thole Accounts whenever
they thould come forward fur inveßigation. The
manner in which thole accounts were ufually pre-
pared for the Ira Parliament was at once clear,
currea, and fatisfaCtory, and very much tended to
facilitate the proceedings on bufinefs of Finance.
'llle CN.INCELLOR Of tli Eirmatunrt find, the
mcatane fuggcßed by the Right T-lon. Baronet was
cert.tially intended, and was in his mind not only
vtry proper, but defirat.!c and neceEry.
CotsCoßev affurcd his Right Hon. Friend that
w.t.. his ost,,nt'on to bring thole Ac-
e malts ("naval d in the IP/4:0 hr %% jibed : and be fuld
the plea) ire to Atfurt him y wen: in inch for.
••./tJnef.. a. to give him hopes of bcisig .tbl to pre-
'cot them v_r.• Lady in the new year up to the tc -
r r.iat'oa of the oil.

&IMMO LAWS.
Mr. VAIIIIITTAAT brought up the Report from
the Committee appointed to inquire into the Ex-
piring Laws.—Refolutions read and agreed to.
In allufion to the law for preventing the expor-
tation of provifions,
Mr. VAIISITTAILT rote and obferved, that the
continued exertions of thofe who were intercftcd
in reviving the enhancement of the prices of pro-
vifions, rendered it indifpenfibly neceffai y to coon-
teradt them, at leaft by continuing for fome time
the law againft the exportation of provitions of
the firft neceffity from the United Kingdom, and
particularly corn and potatelts, fiabjee to certain
regulations to be controuled by Government. He
accordingly moved for leave to bring in a Bill to
that effee.—Le.tve given.
Mr. ALEXANDER brought un the Report from
the Committee of Supply.—Agreed to, and or•
dered to lie on the Table.

ORDIA OF TDB DAY.
The Hoare refolved into a Committee for the
confederation of the ACt of the 39th of the King,
for allowing the Importation of Naval Stores from
Hamburgh and other Ports.
Mr.Vasststrm felt it unneceffary to detain the
Committee by going into any comments on the oc-
carton,
_which rendered m eArary the enaCtment of
this Bill, the cefration of which, now fo eminently
known, (allufive to the arrangements with the
Northern Powers) rendered its cr.n inuance any
longer wholly unnecclfary. He 11 ould therefore
move a Refolution, that the Chairman be inftruEl-
ed to move the Houfe for leave to bring in a Bill
for repealing the Paid AR.—Agreed to.
And the Chairman left the Chair, and moved
accordingly.—Leave given.

DISTIILERIRS AND HIGH PRICE. OF CORR.
The Houle in a Committee on the Molalfes Dif-
tillery Bill,
Mr. VANSITTART (aid it was not neceffiry very
long to detain the attention of the Committee, by
arguing on the neceflity of continuing to encourage
the diftillery of fpirits for home-conlumption from
molaffes; at the fame time that the abundant, uni-
verfally acknowledged, and unqueltionahle abun-
dance of the late moll providential harvell, teemed
fo fully to warrant the revival of the corn diltillery,
and this upon a footing to render the duty on both
equal in effeet, fo as not only to give the diftiller an
alternative from the exorbitance of the corn dealer,
who never failed to feize the advantage of a very
grofs and molt erroneous prejudice which obtain-
ed in public opinion, that the principal part of
the barley of the country was confurned by the
diailleries ; but who alto mod:: the fame popular
and erroneous prejudice a pet:nee frit advancing
to an enormous pi ch the pi els of other corn, and
thus advancing, ev:n in the molt p! milli! tea-
! Cons, the priers of bread corn to a pitch almoll be-
yond the reach of the poor. Titan this prejudice
nothing could be more erioncons, for it appeared
to the Committee r f that Houft appointe,i to in-
quire into the cal fe. of the 1:::t;li prices of provi-
fions in 1799, that the crop 01 barley in Great
Britain, in a year of ordinary plenty, was five
million of quarserr, out of which the confumption
of the diftilleries in no year exceeded 300,000 quar-
ters, or at molt oar twentieth of the whole produce.
This furely was an ample refutation that the diftil-
leries were the true caufc of the dearth and high
price of Corn, though fraudulently utrumed as
fuch ; and filth again there was every fymptom
apparent now to warrant belief ss3ald ire the cute
if the encouragement was dircontinutd from the
Diftillation of Molaffes. In order, however, to
obviate all jealeufy on the part of the homediftil-
lers, it was hi; objet to confine to them only the
privilege of diffilling from molaffes, and by col-
lating the duty thereon from the wort or fmall
wines, at thirteen-pence halfpenny the gallon, the
molanes fpirlt would Lind on a par with that of
corn fpirit, rated in the fame wav at eleven-pence
halfpenny thr. gallon. He concluded by moving
a Refolution accordingly.
Mr. DEPT approved the Refolution, but feared
it was a meafure not fufficiently prong to meet
the evil in its full extent. Alt eady in the North-
ern Counties, in the very contemplation of open-
ing the diftilleries, the corn dealers had contrived,
notwithftanding the unprecedented abundance of
die late harveft in barley, as well as in every other
grain, to exalt a confiderable Advance in the price
of that, well knowing the other fpccies would rife
of court.. In Ilion, he feared, it the Legiflature
did not for a time fufpend 1,:11 farther the corn
diftillery, and adopt Come e4:lean:ll rota ore to
check the advances of munnyoly before its Ilrides
became too formidable, we lhottld again Pak all
the evils of a fiditious fcarrity, notwithllanding
the teeming and rarely precedence,' abundance of
the late harveft, and our tefloration to amity and
open commerce with all the ports of the would.
Loral GLRNBERvIE lamented that public preju-
dice and unfounded error &wild afford any pre-
tence to thofe interetled in the tale of corn, fuincient
to render them fuceefsful in any fpecies of e,,ir-
bitance upon that commodity in the very face of
fuch an harveft as the raft. But he trolled the
meafures brought forward this night by his Hon.
Friend—tft, a Bill to prevent the esportation of
corn or potatoes ; and, fecondly, the Refulution
now before the Committee, joined to the remedy
we timid potiels in our commerce with other na-
tions, would altogether amount to a complete
eounteruCtive upon any fuch "themes as the Hon.
Member, however juftly, teemed to apprehend.—
In the year I 799. he well recolleded that Commit-
tee, to "hole conlid,_ration the Hoofe had referred
the ful,jed of Price of Provifinns and Scar-
city, and who had for two years attended with un-
ceafin7, vigilance to the fubjed, recommended to
the Houle the opening of the corn diftilleries,
though potatoes were not fo plenty as now, from
:he n: •ft full proof and coma I convietion of the
Ha:erne:it alluded to by his 1 ion. Friend, namely,
that :heir confilinetion of cola, «impaled with
the barley (1, p. the country, to fir from being
the mute of .tv, ;vete in fad extremely trivial,
Leia;; not A :74.,./:;t6 of the whole ; and he could
! °int t rely i% in. th 4: viticrce befoi ethe Committee
I that fobj.:4l, ant their rer,rt thereon, wet,. ptin.,c4l
teparately km Meth to the wnrl.l,:es Att•lL:u-
-' tic relut.tt:tm to a pretence fo grutsly fallacious.

The Coaxer Lusa of the Esenetput faia, that
the queftion was not now whether the Diftil!cries
fhould be continued or not, but whether it was ex-
pedient that the low duties fhould be continued
upon Spirits &Rated from Moieties, when the
price of Grain was above a given amount, for in-
Rance, 45 or 465. a quarter ? this certainly was
a great price, but compared with that which had
been paid for it fome time part, it was a low one,
and the object of this Motion was, to create an in-
ducement to perfons to diftill from other articles.
and confequently to lave Barley. Although the
Motion now before the Committee did not, Aridly
fpcaking, embrace thole confiderations which had
been alluded to by an Hon. Member (Mr. Dent),
yet it did molt unqueftionably fairly open a difeuf-
fion upon thole topics. It was not, however,,
his intention to enter at large into the fubjev at
prefent, unlefs fome objections made to the prefent
Motion fhould render it neceffary. He was per-
fatly aware that thole opinions and prejudices
which had been alluded to did exilt, to a very
confiderable degree, upon this fubjea t but it Was
for the wifdom of Parliament to confider how far
they would give effeCt to thofe prejudices, and how
far they would legiflate upon them. Something
was undoubtedly due to public prejudices, but It
muft always remain for the wifdom of Parliament
to determine how much. It was only necelTary for
him to call the attention of the Committee to what
had been (toted by his Hon. Friend, and what ap-
peared on the Reports of the Houfe. It appeared
that the proportion of Barley ufed for making Spi-
rits, to the produce of an Average Crop, was not
above one-twentieth part; he meant of an abundant
feafon like the prefent. In the year 1799, when
the Country experienced great diftrefs from the
hih price of provifions, it was the recommendation
of a Committee of that Houfe, at a time when the
price of Grain was higher than at prefent, and when
the price of Meat was lower---it was, he laid, the
recommendation of a Committee of the Houle, not
to difcontinnc the Diftilleries, and the Houfc aced
upon that advice. At that period too, Potatoes'
were not near fo abundant as they now are. The
Houle at that time thought that the advantage
which would refult from the price of meat, which
it was fuppofed would refult from permitting the
Diftilleries to go on, would counterbalance the in-
creole in the price of grain. It was alfo to be re-
collated, that Barley was more in ufe for food at
that time than, fortunately for the Country, it was
at prefent.—There were upon this fubjed other
contiderations, which mull prefent themfelves to
the minds of Centlemen, and fome of which hpel
been alluded to. One was the Revenue : the Re-
venue was undoubtedly a molt important °Nat,
though certainly lefs fo than others which he would
not now enter upon. With regard to the Revenue,
he thought it right to admit, that the advantage
that would accrue to it from permitting the Dal-
levies to continue, was not fo great as had been
i.nagined ; for the duties arifing from Spirits dif-
title A from Mohacs, &c. were fo confiderable, that
they went a great way towards making a compen-
fation for the lots fuftained by difcoutinuing the
diftilling from Grain. If Gentlemen would turn
their confederation to the fituation we flood in
with regard to Ireland, they would perhaps be Rill
more convinced of the propriety of not giving too
much to prejudice. lg Ireland, as in this Country,
the Barley harveft had fortunately been molt abun-
dant, and the price was lower in that Country than
in this; and though it was above an export price,
it was !till low enough to make it worth the while
of the Diftiller to carry on his trade. And not-
withilanding every regulation, there were in pri-
vate places Rills at work in Ireland ; and all the
aCtivity of the cruizers, could not prevent Spi-1
nits being fmuggled into this Country from thence.
If, happily, there exifled a free intercourfe be-
tween the two Countries in the article of Grain
(but this fabjat, which was of the greatelt im-
portance, had been wifely referved for future dif-
cuflion in the Articles of Union), many of the
inconveniencies to which he was now alluding,
would be done away. For then, inflead of receiv-
ing the barley in the &ire of Spirits fmuggled in
Born Ireland, to the injriry of the fair trader, and
to the diminution of the Revenueore fhould receive
the barley direel from that Country,'whenever the
price was fuch as to permit the exportation from
thence. But now the Englith Diailler was prohi
bited from carrying on his trade, while, in Ireland,
notwithstanding all the vigilance that could be
tl ufed, the Dillilleries were carried on in places of
concealment. Indeed, information had been re-
ceived from the Isifh Government, that dillillation
was carried on to a great extent in that country.—
' The quetiion was, therefore, whether they were to
allow all the nrifchiefs of an illicit trade, which
were too obvious to render it neceffary for him to
comment upon them.—lf then, it was confidered,
what was the importance of giving encouragement
to the produce of Grain, and what was due to the
perfons concerned in the trade (which, though
they ought certainly not to be put in competition
[
with the public intereft, yet ought by no means to
be neglected), and when it was confidered that the
great price of Meat might, in force degree,
waee,
re-
duced by opening the Diftilleries b:
au-
(and
thot:fed by the Reports of thole Committees in en-
tertaining that opinion), when all thefe fubjefts i
were taken into confiderati.ir, there would be a '
thong ground laid, at Icalt, for puling, before a
general difpotition was indicated to give way at "
once to general prejudice:.
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/lc." y Ptil-o',lt.s. Ile wilhe.l it however to bee zr.

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tclerftt

fatly nnclerflood, that he believed it to he the fa 4.
that no Wheat whatever was at the ',relent Troll
s
ufed for the purpofes of diftillation. I-Ie
likewife to make an Obfcrvation on the Boo; -iv
paid on the importation of Corn. He had on
mer evening hated the amount of thofe hountiet:
be only 700,0001. He did not however mean to
elude in that lum the charges incident to the
but merely hated the amount of the nuns anti.lit:-
paid for thole Bounties. 'filistiun alto aenally• 1)
for Bounties, which was in faCt 713 cal mnti
onfy be underhood as the amount cif the fam4
up to the period when the fait Ac..ount was -,•:r
tinted to the Houfe. Since that period many fun;
had been paid for Corn Bounties, and if lit d
not hate an opinion as to the aCtiral amount c.
thofe bounties at he pi-dent moment, he wiiii..4
it to be underftobod that in hating the amount 4.
7cg0,0001. he only confined his atement to th.
period before alluded to. He was furry to si
he was afraid they would confiderably exceed tha
fumThe Refolution was then agreed to, and 6.
Houk being renamed, the Report was ordered t.
be received to-morrow.
The further confideration of the Report relativ.
to the Interference of Peers in Eleftions, was poll
paned till this day week.—Adjourned at I- If •
IA p 4
five.
LONDON.
vst•pysyrThAr , NOVEMBER 2s.
PRICT 0 STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE o'ol 007
Cm .01, 67 I—Ditto, for January on. GM 4
Reduced 664 4-4 per Cent. rid 5 per Cult.
blew 5 per Cent 9b-i Loug Ann.
Eichcsa. Bills, guidable, 1. pr. —Omni= hit 1.
oatct ay STOCKS Y vsrtanAr.
Bank Stock 1881 £B9l ay Long Ann. x 9 t r-r 6 t 3.46
3 per Cent. Rod. 661 41 India Stock ail 2144
5 per Ccut. Coot 6741 3 Per C. hap. 63; 66
4 per Cent. Z.;: Exchrq. Bilh its pea
5 per Cent. 9) Funded Exche. t • .
S per C. 5797 94 971 Of cont. for Ace. 674
An application was on Sativrelay made to the Cnsxero.
of the FACIIIrgy ER to XC4prit be would direa the ......
Boners for purchaling Stock towards the estiatioo of the
bowl Debt, to boy 4 per Cents. initead of three per Cast
the purpofe of affinity the Exchequer Bill Holders.
Au arrfwer to this application was returned }Alen:lay,
c mmunicated by Mr. Nowt.a:4 la to the Stock Exchaige,
which the Cirameaus.oa of the Excu Eve* agreed, that
a certain time (we fuppofe during the ibutrhy of Conies)
Public Commifflooers thould buy 4 per Celts as well as
duced. Thi. notice had the effea of railing the Premium
the Exchequer Bilk to xi per Cent. and the 4 per Ceres
alfo; but the Canfill felt a depreciation of 4 per Cest. .
was to be carded from the preference given to other Stock
nuncio, NOVBII.I.2tR 21.
5 per Cents. 95496 90514 per Cent. Grand Can. tort..
Coirfc of Exchange—,Dublin on London 10 U.
This morning the fourth Haniburgh Maul
came due:their non-arrival can only be anal'. •
to the ftrong winds which have lately prevail .
or to the fevcrity of the weather, which may hat
caufed the Elbe to be frozen up at this early reale-
MAJESTY yeUerday, with the Noblemen
Eris fuite, rode out on horfeback in Windfor Paz.
His Royal Highsnefs the Duke of GLOUCESTE
this day completed the Sikh year of his age:
which oceafion the ROYAL FAMILY received
compliments of the Nobility at Windfor,
Earl ST. VINCENT left town yefterday for
feat at Brentmo , Eller, for the benefit cf.
health. His Lordlip, we are happy to fay,
much better.
Mr. NEPEAN returned to town yefierday
his haufe at Brighton.
On Monday Mr..l3aAinG. a was re-eletted
ber for Briftol.
Mr. CINAIRLE 3 HERBERT FIERREPONT was,
Thurfday lab, eledled Member of Parliament
the County of Nottingham.
The Eherma gave a bumper at Drury-Lane ,
lab night, and the Piece went off with great r.
Yefterday a Special Court of Direaors wash.
at the India Houle, to confider finally of the fa
jets in difpute between that Court and the 80,
of Controul, relative to the Track with India. '
have reafon to believe that the two park; ha
not come to an amicable arrangement, and ti'
the Winds will come before Parliament. So"
thing is expeCted to tranfpire this day. It it
moored that Miniflers are themfelves rather
vided in opinion. Another Special Court is to
held thi.:
Yeihrday a Court of DireCtors of the Eat! In'
Company was held at the India Houk, which
journed to this day. The firtt divifion of EAU,
dim fhips are ordered, to he in the Downs on'
i tut of nest month.
The Honourable the Court of Direllors of
Eaft India Company hare been pleafed toes(
a
dt the
s iatilo;ncceersooff pthrieviartreegtrauldaer
thtoipths
fCootz;
' Commander is permitted to invert on boatel
(hip to the extent of fifty-fir tons, out and hi
tl:c Officers likewife occupy a certain pro' ort! 1
of tonnage, flue of freight.
t w tol tl si.
very cc si
vhcarvee
4abei
nern,,
nvcgdbefreonm foughtl‘ad
fria,
ls
Tinarellv country (in the Carnatic), betwra.n
Company's forces under Colonel M'Caotty,.l
tome native infurgents. In the firlt attack, col.
was made with a very inferior force, the Colo
tl
y's troops were repulfeel with confiderable lo
fewer than 59 officers havink (as it is (rid) !-
killed and wounded. In the aaa attack our
were fucccfsful, and completely routed the is.
gents.
in 3 field near Birth, between. Caput 1I c
A duel was insight on Monday, the 9thminta...
biota sow, of the Revolution, and Mr. Joira II
aisow, of Bridlington, attended by their free
Captain flouvroN and Captain Gni f?".1‘;: ti
"
They fired at fix paces diitancc, Captain M. t
wounded in the left tide ; but immediate aillt.
F.
having been
1.-
afterwards amicably .;
th. biee6
tnopberocauprepdre,htelniedreed.is reaThfoen ttlo be:l
rn:
fettled a; the Bait

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red h to be the fag
the ['term mother,
lation. He withe
on on the Bowl,
n. He had on a t..)r
of thole hountie
iowever mean tr,
teident to the
of the fums
tin alfo aanally p.tht
fad 71g,caol. mutt
ant of the filth;
t Account was pr_
it period many futh
noes, and if he V
ie admit amount c
moment, he w:ft..,l
sting the amount 4.
is ftatement to th.
e was furry to h
fiderably exceed tha

agreed to, and tin
port Was ordered tc

If the Report relative
Eleftions, n'as Nit!
',loomed at lialf.p4