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HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, JUNK a 6.
Lord SIDMOUTH rote and Waved, that if be had hopes
Wore that unanimity vrould prevail on dile if
bc mutt
sow own be was afraid be was difappointed. But he did feel
that unanimity was fo important to the intereits of the country in
the prefent &trades, of affairs, that wilds the Added' expreffed
opinions in which be mold not concur, or contained unfounded
accufatious, he thould feel himfelf bound in duty to fuppoet It—
But if the Noble Lords on his right band (he fpoke french* ads
benches) really thought that the diffolutioa of tbe left Parlia-
ment was ill &chafed, he perfeetly 'greed that this was the 'tuft
proper oecafion for them to mods that opinion., He would go
proper oecafioQ for them to exprets that opinion. He would go
farther_.4omethlng had been fold here, and a great deal out-of
doors, about tbe •imprepriety of giving nodee, that a divifion
would certainly take place on the Addrefis That clamour he had no
befitadoo to lay, was untounded. If it had been stated that amend-
ments were to be propofed In cerniin paffages before the Speech
was fully determined on, and before the precife nature of it could
be known, that Indeed would have been indecent. But having in
contemplation fuch an amendment as this, they might fafely fay
before hand that a divifion would certainly take place, beeaufe
they might be affured that Minitters wouki not cenfure their own
idt. I thought it due to the Noble Lords, therefore, to hate the
Impreffion made on me by this circumitance. He again Rated,
that he molt ftrongly felt the neceffity of unanimity. Their Lord.
Blips were now in a different fituatioo from what they were before
'when it was a matter of complaint, that an abftradt pmpotition
was brought forward, the effedt of which, if affented to, would
have been to annul the prerogative of the King In the choice of his
Nlinifters. The fad of the advice had been there affumed, and
cenfure was to proceed upon that. But thc diffotution was an ad
of Government, and the fadt of the advice was certain. The only
queftion therefore, sac, whether it was blameable? He bad before
Rated his deep regret at the change of the Minlftry, and that
regret he RBI retained; but that having been unavoidable, he
'thought the diffolution, M the Rate of parties, to be unavoidable
alto, and therefore warrantable and justifiable. He could not, there-
fore, fay with the Amendment, that the Minifters were guilty of
manifeft mikondudt in this particular.
Much had beers Paid about the agitations which bad been pro.
duced in the cointry. He trotted he need not Rate that he would
join in no party cry, that bad deception and Intolerance for its
object When be came into Adminlttration, in dot, under eir.
eumitanees not diffimilar, he bad railed no cry about the Church
being in danger. Parliament was net diffolved till the year after,
and not a word was (aid about danger to the Church. The fad
was, that the late events had peculiarly interefted the feelings of
the people. If the cry was railed for the purpofe of making a
hanging boric of the danger to the Church, it was undoubtedly
neofarable. But that had b-en difelaimal, and be hoped that the
negation was well-founded. But much of the cry arofe from an
attachment to the Eitablithed Church, and an opinion that no fur-
ther coneetfions ought to be made. Wherever that motive prevailed
be refpedted the cry, and he thought that it had afforded additional
fecurity to the Eftablithed Church, which, noewithftanding what
a Noble Lord (Holland) hail Paid, be thought intimately con.
pedal' with the Conßitution. There was no diltinelitin in
elide, be (aid, between the diffolutions of April and October. As
to the inconvenience to the public bufinefs, the fame thing bad
taken place in 1784, and as he had concurred in that, he could not
on this account difapprove of the laft difiblution. He hoped that
the prefent Minilters would eftablith their efficiency. The crifis
was momentous. He hoped they would recoiled that we
were at war againft the molt formidable enemy that bad ever'
threatened this coantry, the de ruction of which he was meditat-
ing, no ids on the banks of the Vittula, than if he were on the
banks of the Seine. He hoped Minifters were [tofible of our pail,-
that Government was fully impreffed with the dangers and had
prepared modules to meet it He would judge of than, not only
by their matures, but by the weight they would have both at
home and abroad. If they were deficient in any of tilde effintial
requifites they were unfit for the alas, and ought not to continue
In office. He would do to than she would with others to do by
him. He would judge them by their eondiaEL His party was the
..ountry and his King, and he felt it his duty, under all the cis•
gunattances, to reftit the Amodolent.
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HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. WINDHAM defended the condodt of the late Admini
libation in a fpeech full of ingenui Much had been faid about
the King's prerogative, but it was of very tittle ufe, fur no man
bad any doubu about it; but he would fay one word as to his
'exercife of it, with refped to the difolution of Parlia:nent The
great Lord Somers thought nothing kfs than an adlual Ines.
tion.hould produce a &Ablution of Parliament in the midit of a
Seflion. He denied that the trills of the country called for the
diablution of Parliament, and he thought the reafons affigued by
Matters for their doing fo, refted upon do.ftrines that were not
to be endured :—,fuppofing for inftance. the King had perfonal dif.
*tikes to his ((reentries-Wear/ Isear!)--and wiled to hunt out for
redone for &turbine them,-.—(Heae bear!)—it would come to
this dodtrioe: Parliament would he changed as often as the Mi.
Otters were, and the Parliarnent would he chofen to pleafe the
Minifters, and not the Minifters to pleafe the Parliament and
people. Minifters would fay to the Members of Parliament, you
muft accommodate yourfelves to our willies; you mutt wear our
ribbande and put on our liveries. Ihe diffolution iu 1724 had
ftruck a blow againn the ariftocracy of this country. which it
would never recover. They alit what was the neceffity of that
diffolution, and what was the needfity of the late one? Can they
make out that the Proteftant fucceffion is in danger? Have they •
made out their cafe, as the Right Honourable Gentleman
oppofite called it, in the language of the Bar ? —No, be did
not think that any Lawyer front the Bench down to the Bar and
from the Bar down to the Dock of the Old Bailey.—(a tess;b)-os
would be fo (tepid. Cu ignorant, or fu wicked, as to Icy fo—" I
vow (laid Mr. Windi•am) I thall go and take a touch at the Rudy
of thelaw; it will make me fo well acquainted with the language
of Pleas, and Cafes and Points, fo frequently introduced by my
Learned Right lioncurahle Friend" Thc Right Honourable Gen-
t' enan has told us, that the country was in an uproar about the
Church Eftahlithennt. The oex Pofruli sox Dei bed been banded
about. and the popular cry of " No Popery" had been turned to
the eurpores of revving 'Wainer, and their friends. Th..y raid,
" let us make flay while the Sun (hints, let us gain our Eledlion,
g:t our places twitted uuder Government;" and now the very
authnn of thi, mlfeeditrous cry bold it In fovertign contempt. It
• had keyed their pie foie, however; they anew it would not keep,
?end it his now grownitale upon their WM+. But had they ever
any weight in that Houle or the Country, until they brought for-
ward that cry did they not abdicate upon the death of their
twee? aced what have been the tricks they have pradifed to
bring thendetves into power ?—Their timidity was [nob railed
Into audacity; they threatened to difrolve Parliament, and they
did to. But bow bad the cry of the Church in danger fiteceeded ?
--In Wenniutter, their own Candidates had the =Mind's to N-
arrow it ; they were athamed of the livery they wore. In Mid.
illefee. what had the cry of No Popery done to—The unfoccefsfol
candidate could perhaps tell us its died,. while, Inuring his '
votive bofoto, and lidding up his empty pockets, he pointed
to the Rate of the poll—(o lord largb)..What had the cry
dune in Ywitatire ?—Why, nothing. In Norfolk, it was not
even allowed to be hard. He would maintain that men who
sok into power by fuch vile means, were utterly unfit to hold
power. Ihe country had been appealed tn. and he was proud
that the geed number of independent members, who graced their
benches, proved the country has done its duty. The Gentlemen
on the oppofite fide told us that they refitted this Catholic Bill,
not (pr its own fake, but beeaufe it might Lad to fomething We.
• rid thole great men. Foe, Burke, and Pitt, think that indul-
genus t o the Catholics would blow up the Cooftkution ? Now as
th•the King's confidence and coronation oath ; fuppofe his Majefty
Ihopid rpy. to every meafure prefented for his approbation, " Oh I
Ms is agentlt my contdence, or avian my opinion " Are Milliners
end Parliameitie to be changed as often as his Majefty changed his
opinion? Wilds were once admitted. thin would corrupt Mi-
einem take advantage of the temper of the people for the moment,
whether the& feelings were good and loyal, or proceeded from
force blhad. and furious patfion • 'twas all one to a corrupt Mini...
nor; either the one or other ;add lave pprpofe. Bonaparte
was now' Nobly employed ki canceling " the Talents"-e.
fkaiaNgo4...to complete the fubjugation of the world in the
'tub di this country. His ?eaten?. prelate Milliners had brought
es into a fituadon, which thawed they polreffed no takots—(e
68.11)—e fituktion, he was Garry to add, out of whit* no talents
egad extricate us. He condoled by voting for the Amendment.
ihnlotal CRAWFORD entered teconfiderable length lino a
IleAsee el the coadudt of Minifters, and thaustit they' woe tow-

Wady tuitifiable its &Wigs the Parliament, which nes.— ..
taking the leak of the people. He thought his Majefty's late Mi-
-1 Mites had tercel the Wig to Clings them, in order to preferve
their readies to the Catholics unhroltem " Oh, (Windt/ of
patrimifin r the Hon. General sidelined, " Oh, beauty of
holinds !-.4.5f Gad cry #* Stem t" o' frcredr! by • goe-
rs, seareine-010h, political falcidest.:—(Racifise / Ryellisa !
Oh, murderers of the body pontle..-(totefficso ! ktrols N—Like
fo many Ceti% Mr. Speaker they plunged into the gulpb of re-
Ilgion—tHere the cry of Qt2etttonl Qieftioo ! and the coughing
of the Members became fo epidemical, that we could not bear
the conclude° of the Learned General's fpecch.l
Sir H. MILDMAY...." Mr Speaker, the Noble Laid oppo-
fits has thought proper to make Conte animadverArne on my eva-
ded io a late tranfadloo with Government. Ido not rife, Sir, to
(peak on the gut (lion, but in contequeoce of thefe animadverfions
—(Hear ! bear, bear /)-4nd I now give notice, that oo Monday
neat I Bial bring forward a motion in this Houk, which will
produce an inquiry, the ecfult of whielt will filly aceptit me, and
my worthy.Hou. /dead. here (pointing to Marrs. George Rofe
and Sturges Ronnie) from the foul, fcandalous, and feurrilous at-
tacks, that have been made upon us to the Newfpapera.4llear I
bear ! hoer r)—t(luill 'not defeeed to: a Nevrfpmer controverry,
but I dud affert my dimiityand privileges as a Member of this
Houk !—(lfear ! bear I bear !) •
Mr. DENIS BROWNE thought the, change of Minifters right.
on the finiplegroilnd; that his Majefty did not approve of the
principles, or mailers*, of the late Minifters. He defended the
Diffoludea of Perliantera, as a wife and proper appeal to the peo-
ple upon the change of Minifien, otherwife. we thould have a
Parliament attempting to 'smote Minifters upon the King. He
hoped his Majefty, in refitting all unconftitutional attempts,
would always have the inanimate fupport of his people.
LordCOCHRANE thought both the Addrefs and Amendment
were exceptionable: and the latter appeared to him to bete, be-
t:auk it applied a degree of blame to, his Majefty, in the curdle
of his conititutional prerog itive. If in the exereife of this, how-
ever, the King could be deemed refponfible, fuels an opinion would
interfere with the principles of our thattitution. The two • par-
ties mieht indulge in mutual crimination ; but be fluently hoped
that a fet of men might be foetid to guide the helm of the hate,
to whira the objedions could not apply, which were Rated mated
thek two oppoling interefts. He would give his (import to ad-
thee of the contending parties.
Mr. GRAT FAN rofe. and fpoke to the following died " I
(hall, Mr. Speaker, confider the pedant quedioti in two points,
both as it regards the Catholics of Ireland. and as it affcdts his
Majefty's late Minifters. In (peaking of their coodudt. I r.annot
fupprefs the feelings I entertained for them while in office ; neither
can I be floe nt en the circumftatices which led toand attended their
ditmiffsl. I approve of that Miniftry, becaufe they preferred their
principles to their places. I approve of them becaufe they conftl-
tutionally refuted to be resided by an unconftitutional pledge --
I approve of them becaufe they were lincere in their withes to
create national Itrength, by national unanimity. I approve of
them becaufe they endeavowred to unite the people and diffelve a
party ; and r men approve of them becaufe they *deli ceded to
profecute the juttified claims of the Ira Catholics, when they
were convinced the profeciation was highly inexpedient. I fay, his
Majelly's late Minifters sled wifely in introducing a tnrafure,
which, in its origin, appeared highly predicable. and in withdraw-
ing it, when they were fatisfied it was for the time impradicable.
They prowled it with a view to conquer, and they abttained from
precipitately preffing it, when they were unfortunately difappuint-
cd in that expedation. To this dilemma they were reduced, that
if the Bill was expedient, why not introduce it.* and being
expedient, why abandon it ? (a laugh from the Miniiterial
benches.) The Honourable Gentlemen on the oppofite tide
might laugh, but I contend, that the true view of legination and
policy—a policy the molt Konen, is net to purr even a good
principle too fat; when there is no opportunity of effecting
the ohjeuct, and where the evils arifing from the failure, mutt
materially detract from the benefits of even ultimate fuccefs.--.
But when ) lay down this pofition, I feel it my duty itrenuoully
to oppofe that principle, which, at a moment when we arc fur-
rounded with cascades, and *Walled with dangers, at a moment
when our belt and furett fafeguard exifts in the unanimity of the
people, would defeat the benefits of that unanimity—would, at
the fame moment that it divided the tablic feeling. and diftraded
the popular energy, hold out to the foe who Menaces us, the
alarming and detonable hope, that a great majority of there who
were molt prominent in rank, in talents, in property, had coplpir-
ed with a great proportion of your phyfical force, againft the
acknowledged ellablithment of Church and State. To admit fuch
a pofition, is to perpetuate an incurable evil. It is to infufe into
two daffes of your fellow fubjeets' the principles and iefources of
an inextinguithable hoftility. 'curupport this evil, great redone
thould be adduced by the advocates of difunion, or at lad. better
miens than we have either heard or found in the fpeeches and
• produdinns of thole who have thought it their intcreft to promote
it. For, however you apply your ingenuity, however anxious to
realize the cifthief which Gentlemen have connived to appre-
hend, reduce it to plain fenfe, analyze whatever either of digni-
fied, profound, or learned, that has been advanced by your cede-
fiatties or your earporattons, whatever of vrifdotn or of refearch
has been in their addreffes or their communications, to this plain ,
conclufion it mutt be reduced—that in the Catholic Bill proper.*
by my Noble and Right Hon. FriendlLord Huwick) there yes
a danger front admitting our Catholic allow fubjeds Into our sr-
mice, and Into a participation of the privileges of our Cooftitution.
What was the fad ? The danger, either way, has, and does exift.
The Catholics at this moment, conftitute a great portion of your
military farce. They conftitute aloud the whole of tier lei& Milt
era. They bear a confiderable proportion to the dtablithment of
the kith YeoManry. They have been admitted, by the Ad of
1793, to a participation of the civil rights of the Conftitution.—
And, therefore, if the clamour which has been railed, if the-out-
cry which has teen circulated of the danger arifing front the Ca-
tholic Bill be in any part, or to any extent, juftifled, that has
been febltantial danger to your eftabliffiment, to your army, to
your religion, for the lalt fourteen years. (Hear bar!) Nay.
your country has, for that period, been in a great degree defended
by thofe whom the &edged (importers of Church and State have
prefumed to reprdent as their Country's enemies. It has bens
their conftan: and unceafing cry, that ruin, inevitable ruin, would
be the confequence of repealing the &qualifying Statutes againft
the kids Catholics. Let us examine the validity of this apprehen-
dots, and afeertain the length to which it • rens. If ruin be the
confequence of Catholic indulgence, then I anfwer, you mutt
retrace your Reps, you molt undo what the King and the Parlia-
ment have already enacted for Catholic liberation, you mutt again
recur to your penalties, and annul your grants. For by loch a rea-
Cooing, to this inference we mutt come, that if the Hon. Gentle-
men, the friends of Church and State, refute to repeal thofe grants,
they mutt give up their argumeut, and if they repeal them, they
mutt abandon their army. Lod erkref bear bear.) for, how-
ever it has been the intereft of thole who oPpoted the Catholic
Bid, as introduced by my Noble Friend (Lord Howick), to
inifreprefent it, yet in their face, and iu the face of this Houk,
I affert, that the mature Introduced in the laft Parliament
did net go cue Rep farther, either in its proviflons, or its ex-
tendon, than the kith Bill of '793. The cafe is plainly
this, that in oppofing the late bill, you admit this ttrange'
principle, that difloyalty does not exitt amide the lower
defies of the Catholic multitude, but that it does pervade the
' higher and more refpedable defeription of that perfealion—
Tffiy are already tolerated. it will be faid—they are permitted to
enjoy the full exercife of their religious feelings. _This, I fay, i s
not (efficient, nor is it the proper or enlarged view of this great
and important fulled. The Catheffies of Ireland, are identified
with he coaftitution of the empire.. They arc our equals, one
brethren, fully entitled to the participation of civil rights, and the
enjoyment of caultitutional bkffusgs. . When, therefore, we are
told they exift by fufferance, we arc sit log ear to an opinion which
attacks a fundamental branch of the Rate, and of the nation .1
fecurity.--The meafurc of ;he Union between the two countries
made no change between the relative rights of the people. limade
no alteration, nor admitted of no infringement in the. mains
claims of the tilde lubjeds. You took the biak Catholic with M.
privileges, and eel now find so peaces for dettroying them. The
dangers which have been attributed ts this escalate are chimed-
eat ;if they were real, they go to deftroy the great organisation of
your military fyttem. 'lndeed the argument is Co talk, that no
drunken boatter, or corporation orator, with all their pr4udicet
or their palliest., could &Healy give utterance to thefe alarms,
which base been both mentioned and prepagatedby tome apse-
rend), great politicians. For reafons, even they are inclined tea&
nit that the Bill was innotious, but that the Mintage who vim
pounded it was dangerous. The Noble Lord (Cattlemeh) and
the Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Canning) coeds not, coafifteady
' with bit former cochlea and teitorded *di«, war with the prin
eipie; they therefore have diredosd their Auden! holtility 'spina
the Minilter, who had the finceilty to ailt upop the principle.--
(Hear! Igor!)—The Right Hen..Gentiensan.'tlfe Cheat:allot' of
the Exchequer, cannot adopt the principle of his colleagues,' be;
caufe it appears big with dangei,end replete With ruin. I coudille
With him for Me kars,but tail give no credit to the validity of his
Statement. 1 cannot for a moment admit the validity of a (tate-

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the generalfecurity of ilitempire. I Mons, I bps MINN IR.--
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[ its efir. As a member of Berepi I rite= Illigefti-
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fied, datigerous argument, which tendeuna Ili
of the means of refeue and reeoveey from the eisindell Iltid Im-
paladins calamities with which it Is eluearmiett /fed Scuds that.
with all dee temptation, with all the entiesohrs width bave ban
fo swiftly sod to improperly made, tbe expedient bee Sit SM.
peneednisfecesfeel, Mk bopekb. There Is not. I fees atut=
Won on the part of this ' to qoarrel with their
three, co account of rdlghss good feefe and liberaity dribs
people bare prevailed NOM! tbe gried seel of WWI. wad
the interefted ice:skids& 'film sereaW politician. kb the ee-
ltoff of the unadetterited— reed here of the Englilb poipleemr re.
ligi ms armed gestesinkelfts rianser. Al thumb aluellwW4, in
even'. flap of foestp,beimalblimene-estainity lea deleed. al.
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Though " al the tall belly,they liftthetr beads and lie," mie Ike in-
ns!, of war hiftery prose that they have blared-a:l4r. fe
, Chariest. and iy. they crated a piety which " ibulls'
blitheness of the Gauntry, and died the belt Nobel entritillb
the reign of Queen Anne, tber llefultYfed the milk' de . .11'1'1°44
and rendered unavailieg the gleitvidades. of the Dohs. iff VW-
borough. The religious Sillieldif of Basked eri.ehe
power of France, ' and led to theedillmilliden of * width
now alarms us wick its maim/ewe effsdb. Is tele; • Sep;
OG-" No Popery=was nearly ficeefefid. in defe4fifiel
Church, by burning the Cityr-(lime ! bear / bear /
Saints are not the efforts of great or of amarehattftve .
they originate Iti lows Inelkiwee enewhen. and operate ea Wish
rant irritability. It is not ea teiglon Wm ste founded, baklolo .
they arc generally the apedieeleel the dagnived. They are beidetj
ed with the hope of dada, aid are dm wadi political vi.... 6 .m=l
deed. There is melds prefelluk hod* Wiles. .
fied in their lase= i maks so ezeitageble—i, '
mulate to great diadem .Tbel all Andros 104=11_ 1
energies, and have not ensbatileil on their .11Mil Itheldiftlf.
vices of the country. I rejake ni Sad that tbe peeves of dis Mar
dont had not Wien illt• the Ipies, irldeb was laid midi fa MIRKY
art and duplicity to entrap dm* . In my essuatry the seabed at.
tempt has not only failed, but tkeeppoline~t has tdneephed.
The people of Irelaod have not aisliftetsed the elleribible idl,
bat have avoided a policy which might bare been bit• tethe
general Swett They have not ankiered felly by hiy-.-when
you wrote :moo your walls= No Papery,' they did not retort the
cry of t Nit glaa.' They left ari idle bugbear 41 with by Its own
• imbecility...an unfounded calumny to be defeated byksappreptiam
incredibility. (Hear ! bear !)Theydlfelained to make s redone eon-
mai spondee Wiles cant of in idiot. (Liar ! hear t) I do not
pretend to fay that there were not fome smoogft them who enter-
talaed *rang feelings upon the Medical; or rather the withdraw-
ing of the Catholic Bill, but I contend that the great body of the
Irith people were fo faufatisfied, as not to be diratieled, and that
their waded Minced a great and ftriking tenacity of good order,
and the love of national peace. The College of Dublin would am
addrefs the Theone on _the Minltterial change which had taken
place--the Seat of Learning would not difgrace leaf by lending
fupport to this vulgar and abominable cry of Church In Danger.
They who were Wed acquainted with the precepts and interets
of Religion, knew bet to deend that Religion by a religious dig-
nity and a Cheat= moderation. They wifely feparated an invio-
lable reverence for their King front an attachment to a defpicable
Court intrigue (Loud cries of. Hear ! bear !) The City of Dublin
alio difbelieved this Church'alarne. and emu the molt illiberal, I
nayfelf found free from the anineofity of religiousmadnefs. It was
true that tke Corporation voted an Addrefs to the Throne-but
though bound to my country by the ties enamors conferred, and
Cervices performed, and though./ can differ from any part ea my
Conftituents, but with regret, yet I will boldly by, that my own
opinions on this fubjedt, are the opinions of my country. I treat
with reped the feelings of thole who differ (rem me I condemn
the principle, but do not deprecate the authority. To tbe people
of England 1 fay, that tbe Irilit Catholic never has entertained the
opinion that they were bolt& to his emancipation. He could not ,
, fuppore that though you alit removd the Parliament under* the '
pretext of releafing hint from rdigious dilquallficatiass, me after-
wards declared not only war agent/ that religion, hut bnitillty 1
againft his conftltudonal freedom. Beware'of that boftilitr-le ,
would be oedy a dbefion of public Mum& and a dbninuthts of na-
tional !trent& Extend tbat feeling of fympathy width I rejoice
to fee fo (iron* exemplified atnongit your people. By fe deka,
you will compenkte for the defation of allies, and tbe failure of
etpedleions; you will fortify that great welter° barrier, which is
bek calculated to counterpoik the deftrudion of the balance of '
power, and behind which tire fevered not only war worn time.
diets advantage and (murky, but the reverfionare lastelbst Eu.
rope. Let your caciefiaitics. corporations, law= mai greet
' dignitaries, corifecrate it. For, unfortunate!. re liWar
to an unket and illiberal policy, inftead of a week Mid eliblgill
fyftan, you will not only fill up the maim if rair ignitmum•
throw, accelerate the means of your own fableptial.but•
deßroy the hopes of the civilised world, and life the glebe=
Under thefe irupreffions I give my ardent and fincerefupport lithe
Amendment of my Noble Friend."
Lord MILTON rote, amidft the met marked attention of tbe
Houk, to declare, that he would be guilty of a derelidion of his
duty to the great and independent body ef freeholders who dele-
gated to him the important nett of repreentlng them. kite Coffered
a queftion which brought the cooduct of his Majefty's Wafters
into conftderation to pafs without his decided and melt unequi-
vocal animadvietioo. The Right Hon. Ge..eleman (Mr. Pigment)
had cavilled and eodeavoured to prove, that the pdiod whim Wm-
fell and kb colleagues bad dared to advik hliklajere to dada
the laft Pattiament, was the loft likely to leterrupt the peddle
bufines. But tbe charge *gab& them was not ouly the Intrattp.
tion which the public Wines received by that maim; it tam
further • it arraigned them of pottponing that meal's% wait thee.
had afeCrtalned tkeiritrenjeb, and then recurring to a difeindon,
bemire they were unable to meet the rapport of an ladepailen:
Parliament. When unable to new model that Nehmen; they"'
!clotted to this profligate and corrupt exereife of the prerogailve.
In the frech from the Throne, whieh was this night read, a hops
was hela nut merely to catch the public eye. Tbe appointment of
the Comnittee of Finance was recommended, bat what confidence:
could be plated--what credit for public mammy be glees nista!,
the very fiet ad of vrbofe government was.to retort to power
the violator of the law, whore tharader was upon mord on the
journals of that Houk, and whore fubf uent acirdial was upon
charges not comprehended within the et tbd Heade of
, Commons ? (Hear I tear ! ) With rdped a die illkedep, he
twoUnded that the aepeal MU OK to tbe folk but tistile slookide
li the people- to all the dark palleas debt human heart. Thep
had endeavou'red to appeal to bigersy, ta timatlcifossued credulity.
Tbe triumph was but tem i lain; the influence of paean
and prejudice they ktbeldkr 'kakis. Out tbe return-
-lag goafenfe and ibetaity of the Bridal dander
,fgatbenlheil the aid 11411‘ ale 011dociP14 ProP*P-
dsWeejws
„ikele. T. ea* their , elite reader WS combination '
II( Intdebsl quatplete, Myst getelled to the cotterib of-
Ibilr, Sevirilie, the met . lialliliacy, ond tricelheed
rdearmitronie4We regret our ISOM pedieist us flea &aim jetties
1 re the.fpeech of this diftingulthal NoNsems .
. .
Mr. DUNDAS SANDERS faid, It was Itated by the NMI& ,
Lee* that be could not give hie confidence to the mesa 'Mad- 1
alaretlea, Wade the kit adk of their Government was te meal
a lib Majelefe cum& profligacy and consult= Ifle under-
lined that tie Neble Lord raid, that tbe reoludone ea talcum&
.61 the Hoofs RIR* bar to that Yeah He was deems comedy i
, te cemprebead the Noble Lord's Intentions, and he would ia a 1
*hasty wai Rate tbe refolutions to which it applied. bet it be I
moved, if be &add plink, that any pees, be his reek ene ma.
did.. what it might, 'plat wham a refilled's hailvilgad, led&
eset be nasal in emlidenee, although be Sada have beta t-.t-
-sattl.bitiweribly argettud hy hie peers. Until the Noble
I t:lrd Ibeede seem femme escli releatien. Ise mat expo& that tbe
inistedeue arms me Werigreaadlefe, sad that he had easdged
what he stald,rioi rapper. Let die Nebk Lord ambit the day
when he . would dike& the pent t tbitimtb was, that If be bad
disiglit dig Nth so ufecould have hmapropored at the reeds -
time, Iht wield NSW have moved Wag Bice to have bed them
refelweedmiitemo steed era heard ea etfroryfaileTtta Honour-
) able Menage fat be Iheale not move it. beeank tbe N•ble Lard
fo nearly skied Stift bad been tried by a mometan wibenal t
and all that thelmareft Mead could midge bad been performed.
Mr. BATHURST fa* thee the amities was Ins narrow sera
pats. and Meld tifite MON Waive des kfigede whit* bad best
IV amply blecftigatel &Ogg tbe debate. Theirepriel was not in-
to ac coMparadve narks of tbe two adailltaitbaa hat lato tbe
condua .et hairdos, la idyll* the Weida et Pulliam.
The Amain* *mei a dire*" Nalare spa Malta% foe this
est:elk-of tbe oseregethee. Ilis Right Ilea Prime (Mr. Perm-
vid) fed, that Ike Mead= one necelery, ia esaleunteee of the
change a eheyabliridan ; bat beweaM sot go ta diat aunt i it
was enungh ler Mit tbe make Wit jellliableswlthoetday &eh
*What aridity. • • , . ..

by Gentians on the tide of the Houle on which be fat. Miri•
fterslkad brought it forward to aufweg their purpofes, at which he
kit great ifirtto With refitted to the quettion before the Houle,
be thought the Antendineen right, and he fhould vote for it, be.
tank be esehlered the dieldution to have been brought forward
sender a Loft odious and infamous cry, calculated to codeine the
Conftitation, and at an events to excite agitation and &eat
GeneralHOPß began by silting the Noble Lord (Moe) who.
otter it wits right that a nits thould be twice pooißed fer an it.
pond crime. both beibre triA end after acquittal ? He did nit
fuppcethat any One acquainted with thelaw or maiming Ono
coma, 'Would maintain fuels a propididom, The Hon. mama
WeLte hn emaneent so the modves Mick intimand de
ebb Lord hille's) perms:Ars, whom be *Wadded fallow,
but me to order.
ir=rigla deprecated this &buffet on
;Thom' ito4
which die cemtry had no Intertftiftsatever...,
Wink advantage was likely to rerun from this fyftem d rated.
, adon, or what could the people think, but that it Willll Ertl*
for mice and else ? Pe&ng, however. that the amendffintmo.
Wool la it neither retrafPidthre nor puke:Uwe benefit, Whoa
Wm wit* it. The Hen. Member went then at coefaimbie
Wm* Into the catholic queftioq, to which he profcied unity &
friend, whenever the rearm able t,lme for granting farther ink,
r
inighterth
OM.
Mr. Woirrunr STEWART denied that the inajoritrof tilt
lettEetl and of the commercial intent in the cooly
of. Rated by Loft Milton, soh lo favour of the hie Ai.
s theislithe Noble _lwzra had obtained a majority, it
mode km the inlibeneeptiss of the clothiers, With rerpea to ems
oundottot me of the ausdidates, Mr. Walks. But litrek ads
was Virrilise=er that the late Mb:liters were mots mutat
. Ilion *der
• Mr. WILLIAM SMITH agreed with the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr*, libtbigrit) lbel die "team Eywitbiee very narrow coop
affe, bet Meted front him In his Weer Oft. He-die not then
Ant* WOOL* lay, In the atft lidtaace, between thelEing and 1,
his hOnt• though the peke Midden" bad made it a Mow
tomffwerthtir man views,Umeglout the country. In raying mt,
he bild lwetendlwa. on his own part, to quarrel with them for tie
, dillibiodos, beanie it afforded him en opportunity of moot
1
ark the high thaws which his conftituents entertaloted hid.
manlifiency and appoStion to the fylicat fupported by the prdent
: Meas.
Mr. R. RYDER. fuppotted the Addrefs, and morel the jot
Aditiniltration of inceoftfiener In their Prftecdin.P. •
lard TEMPLE hid, the goatees before the nook had keen
amply dl(cuffed, and be would only make a few clithatius ea
vindicadon of the late Adminiftratim. The cry igaloft the Cy
tholle 3W bad been faired by the pretest Minders for the per.
pore of injuring doge who projected it. How far that ere tot
tuceeeded would be royal. Heasoold, however, think the linde
difgraced itfdf If it did not approve of the late Minifters, as a;
fair pretence bad been Rated for the imputations oft ou then,
Lord HENRY PETTY entered into a full uplanation of ten
Ads of the late Adminittration, and contended, that there wino
preteece whavver for the late diffolution of parliament, except
that his Majelly's prefent minifters, having obtained power, fought
by that means to fecure it. We regret cue:edit:sly that the lie
. nets of the hour. and the prefs of matter, preventnus ritering imp
detail of the Noble Lord's fpcceli, and of chafe who followed.
Mr. CANNING made a fpeecb of confiderable length, sag
Note point. He defended the difiblution of Parham:a ii i
endure of neceSty—they Mutt either do fo, or funwtler en
ariftocracy which had attempted to dilate to the Crown; end
what contempt amid they act have deferved, it they had mktg.
and thereby rotted the King to take back thole whom he WIC
Imiffed! But they wetted two T binge which were 'net:iodine
with each other—the Wm° gneiss( being turned out, and tic
cafe grace of reformation. Hurried off they were, however, ea
having clung to the boatuntil It became necdfary to puib thesis.
to the water. They wanted by their Catholic Bill to line its
difficulty, and then they prepared to fneak out of it. The Nolk
Lord (Elowick) brought forward the Catholic BM : what waste
fair Parliamentary inference t that It bad the fans ion of kills.
vertigo ungoeflionably : and yet this bill had di fuel: fandiw
thus they were wrong on their own Stewing.% As to his Maj If
never idling fee tabard', but always by advice; that might be hid
in refuels:ea:general affairs, but could not be tree In every pe
ocular mkt; Wbo wad to advife the King in a cafe of tilt knee
defiriptioo N.A. V, be advifed him to confuk A 1-3. Awl*
to confab II T-s.O And who to amfult C T—Nobody. Se hi
we shift mine at Mee the fpot where the might Is. in the est,
log import of the King bimfelf. As to all the libels which had sp
pearedia the public pet ter. there bad gone forth a notion dot s
pub be paper lea fat of an arena,where, if one threcvs down the
gauntlet,• the other muft take it up: he had neither 'effort nor h.
ciliation for Fuca a conteft. On bla honour, be declared, below
or thing of the Shelly If there were any, egaisiftili: Noble bed,
(Howick) ; and berwls allured the Noble Lord was as lineal
of chafe which related to hlwM& The Noble Member for Tod.
shire (Lod Mem) had (pokes with 000liderable coolidence sat
laid that his return was a teft that the Medan of Yorkihire win
%Weft the prelims Aeindollirsdon...the Noble Lord bad fpokas
as Eno ens had any Continuum bet himftlf; but if the not
WWg getimeigies Weft thole of which the Noble Lied bad giroa
Spegimentliset a legal acquittal by bb Peers is no anfwer to 1
pylon who limbo a vote of the Hook of Commons. he wool
with the mew Whip)°, of their rturiolee, and be hoped that tkdr
.would be oalload to the :blinds of Arittocrade conviviality In
(Imallise Noble Lord, however, had made rather is
free am Mehl the Sausee ref a Young Member, for he had delivad
a fpeeditoodgin 'Ada he had fan in his adveriffements tad
three votheoo(rory kei isqh)...le wasield that the Wren At
anioifirselea were on their trial ea amount of hennas advifed thee
Sueadds is diffolve ?adherent. Thee were Ls. He sod Wok
Jingoes waited with owelbless the red:.
Mr. wiirrialtao Stanght MIMS to the late meta for
Wmfard, in Irelend. and end, from a paperestdds be beidla le
hand, that MAllinnllly, the (elicitor foe the forfeited ellen it ,
inland, we at down to the Elation, and Perfonelli* walla' pot '
Mr. John Chops, for the purple of icfluenting him to fewelf
the denifterial candidate, by a poodle of the re.sidgnmeutdthe
elides of the late Cornelia, Grogan, his brother, which were
felted. •

Mr. ARTHUR WELT .ESLEY declared,thet the Govenman
of Ireland had not interfered. or ems ant leftruatoas to
MG
Ornallsy upon this fubjea ; had any hamper de bees nano af
that Inguenee, it was unknown co Government.
Mr. WARD raid a few words In fupport tithe Asiimbseel•
li.tyr OM NEWPORT fabl, the letter of Mr. Orodby
orepodble wis the feet, and Waged upon the Hi
m2lTrth if he Mild. tie dollar! the Right
ficantarn nwiM to thew She nentrary, and tan that diet& ob.
ledt of t.t,Ciovrptient was to difpoffefs him tithe molder al
OW calakusetn, bin they foikd in this as well as abnoft every
lihrtreffart eftisglar nature, and the proof of the iss was, the
Sad towbar more votes on his tact ekaion, than be
=
Ilse watt Canmeellee of the Ezehequei for tint-yen da el
Kingdom. The abufe of the eonftitutiocal power Midst
mastery was NIA *miaow and difsmeeful, and *grimily ah.„,
)ta of the Government 'mato carry their point by the rains
tit/ kaftan
The gedlion being then trill called for, the Hook 4lnitk
end the numbers appeared as follows t•-• Far the original/MA
330 ; egainft itolyset-Majottry for the Miniftryony. ,
' The Houk being remitted,: . •• • •
• The CHANCH.LOR of the EXCHIEILUER gave estkelis
he would. on Tilde', natjabmit 1 motion for the adinneles
tithe node. refrain the revival of the Committee of
Minima at half paii fie o'clock.' •
SATURDAY, JUNE 17.
• yell somber of peddons, for repairing. roads, dieldagisi
shi gaSkiassals. were gardened, and referred to Comer*
Lug TON prefented a petition from the prifoness far Ns
eras* M Yost Daft* praying relld-s•Leid on the talon
• Or & ROPAILLY gave notice of a modes, on bleobirS,
leen to bibs a Da foe more dreamily hearing the perssi.
the ddlm d wren. • •
Lord POLKESI'ONE gave notice of e motion, fee tides
day, for reprinting the Oude Papers.
Sir S. RO M ILLY relented a don,figned by 130 tr
for debt, coallarn io the King's tl/taeb Pam, praying fir,
The petition was ordered to lie on the table. 00'
Lord HOWICK moved for an account of the 0.••••--
vats Bills which had dropped, *rough the dialer°
Parliament, on the 27th of April left. dial:mutating the tor"
which there Bilk had made in their refpoetive itages.--AfterOr
words (ran Mr. PERCEVAL, the motion was agreed to.
The NoMs Lord oat moved for a *twee( copies Drag o°2.
iffoed from soy Public Mese, for the collet:Soo of 101 dada,
Scree the 17th of April lait, as &whirred by law:
Lord HO WICK'. motion was agreed to.
Mr. ROSE gave notice, Sir Monday, of a r 0001.9 farMr*
the American Trade AS dim now near aPhipg•