Star.
London, England, 1814-11-29 00:00:00

Saxony was vested in the Prussians, as appeared by
Prince Repain's Proclamation ? He was himself
ready to hear his full share of the responsibility me-
naced by the Right Hon. Gentleman, when, he de-
sired the House to remember what he had stated this
night. But what did the Right Hon. Gentleman
mean by provisional occupation ? The Proclamation
of Prime Repnin to the Saxons stated, that they had
be;come without any limitatitth subjects of the King
of Prussia. Yesterday the Right Hon. Gentleman
Ar:;ucti hypothetically as to Sicily, this.day .he rea-
soned upon his belief with respect to Saxony. But
if the occupation of that country was intended to be
permanent, Lord Castlereagh ought not to have re-
mained at Vienna one moment after he was in pos-
session of the fact. He would in that case be re.
clued to the situation of a mere automaton, and could
not submit to such a degradation without bringing
disgrace upon his country. This was a case more fit
to be taken up by Parliament, as we war to pay a
p inof the troops employed in- taking possession of
Saxony.
Mr. BATHURST observed, that this country was
not a party to the Convention with Prussia-relative to
the occupation of S.ixony. Neither were Ministers'
responsible for the instructions given to a foreign Ge-
ne ral over whom they had no control. They had
official information, as Gentlemen might have under-
stood, from what had fallen from his Right Hon.
Friend, that the British Minister had not consented to
thermal decision of the fate of Saxony.. That 'ques-
tion rested with the Congress—the Congress had not
yet met, and, therefore the British Minister could not
have assented to what had not been decided.
Mr. PONSONBY was ivillins to suppose that nei-
ther the British Minister nor the King of Prussia
could have been a party to the permanent spoliation
of Saxony. The first article of the Treaty of Chau-
Mont between Prussia and Great Britain stipulated
the combined employment of all their means to obtain
for themselves and their allies a peace under which
the rights and liberties of all the nations of Europe
should he re-established. This was the tenour of the
first article of the Treaty of Chaumont, and this
country kept up or paid 75,000 men for carrying that
treaty into • effect. Yet the Proclamation of Prince
Repnin states!, that the Saxons were handed over as
subjects to the King Prussia 4g and his descendants."
It also corgrattil-tted them upon the virtues of that
Sovereign in adversity, and his magnanimity in pro-
sperity! It was the army of Saxony that, at the bat-
tle of Lei psic, enabled the Allies to conquer the coun-
try only to enslave it ; and Thielman, who first gave
- t o his countrymen the example of resistance to Franca,
was now in coninement, a victim to his patriotism.
It was a taserabl-... subterfuge to say, that it was im-
possible the spoliation could have bean commit-
ted, because the Congress had not met. Suppose the
Congress were never to meet, has not Prussia the oc-
cupation of the country ? It these documents were for-
geries, Ministers may have some defence. Bat the
iliGniteur, the Franch official j-urnal, announced the
fact of the occupation of Saxony by Prussia in the
way reFresented in the documents. The Right Hon.
Gentleman rested up an the circumstance of the Con-
gress not having yet met ; but if these documents
were true, it must be inferred from them, that Minis-
ters had consented to the occupation of Saxony.
Mr. BATHURST had stated, that Ministers did
not rest the statement as to Saxony upon the fact that
the Congress had not yet met, but upon their official
information from the British Negotiator, that the fate
of that country was not filially decided. As to the
force necessary to carry into effect the Treaty of
Chaumont, this country kept tip its portion of
men, but did not pay any part of the quotas of the
other parties.
Mr. TIERNEY contended, that if the whole of the
7.5,000 men, the portion kept up by this country, was
not employed in the Netherlands, the part of that
force which was kerving out of that country was sas-
sisting in the spoliation committed in Saxony. Would '
the Right Hon. Gentleman say, that the provisional
occupation of Saxony had the consent of Lord Cas-
tlereagh ? •
Mr. BATHURST stated, that Saxony had been
before occupied hr that this provisional
eccupatio:. by Prussia Was sinip!y a transfer of pos-
session from one Power to another. As to Poland,
lee had no right to negociate respecting it, as we had
no force employed there.
Mr. WHITBREAD observed, 'that this hairssplit-
ting 'hewed some ingenuity. But he asked, whethet
Prince Repnin would have stated before the world
that Lord Castlereagh had acceded to the Conven-
tion it he were not borne out by the fact ? If these
-documents were forget ies, then their author ought to
be punished, if not, Lord Castlereagh ought to come
h, tn,.. The document stated, that the supreme Ad-
ministration of Saxony WAS handed over to Prussia by
a Convention between Russia and that Power, which
was acceded to by Austria and England. Whenever
was that Convention ? Have Ministers received it ?
If all this was forgery let that be told; but if it was
ail true, then the House, with contrition, shame, and
humiliation, would perceive, that even before Con-
gress had met, Great Britain had incurred the shame
and infamy of having consented to such an act of
robbery.
Mr. BATHURS r said, that there was a great
d:ff..rtisce between a finger), and an unauthenticated
document.' He had asserted that these documents
were unauthent cated on the authority of the last dis-
patches from Lord Castlereagh, which weie of the
I I th inst. the Proclamation being of the Bth.
Mr. TIER NEY —44 Then we have one fact, that
in the list dispatches from Lord Castlereagh there is
no mention of Prince Repisin's Proclamation."
Mr. WHITBREAD--" N. r any of the provisio-
nal occupation of Saxony."'
Mr. LITTLETON having resided a considerable
time-in the country, could assure the Hulse, that the
whole of its population, with the exception of halt a
dozen individuals gained over by Russian bribery, or
by the orders distributed amongst them by the Em-
peror, demanded back their King, he wished he could
lay their Elector. The whole of the spoliation could
be traced to the Councils of Russia, which Power
• wanted PoLind, and was ready to give Saxony to
• Prussia as *equivalent.
' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
stated, that the Convention which had bees alluded
- to bad no existence, as far as related to this country.
• The-first Resolution of the Committee was then
agreed tot and a short acid desultory conversation

took place upon some of the rensaining Resolutions,
in which it appeared that a small sum of 14500,
being part of what was ultimately to be allowed him,
was granted to the Officer commanding the vessel in
which the Prince Regent of Portugal is to return to
Europe, to cover the expense of providing for the
Suitable reception and accommodation of that
trious Personage. The whole of the Report was then
agreed to.
The False Measure Bill was read it third time, on
the motion of Mr. Wurrnaeats, and passed.
The Habeas Corpus Amendment Bill was read a
second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday,
the 10th of February.
Mr. TIE RNEY desired to know both the day from
which, and the day to which, it was intended to pro-
pose an adjournment of the House ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
stated, that the Right Hon. Gentleman had by his
question anticipated a notice of a motion which he'
meant to give. It was his intention to propose, that
the House should adjourn from Thursday next, to
Thursday, the 9th of February.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT gave notice that he should
to-morrow (this day) move
.for certain proceedings
of Grand Juries in Ireland ; and also for an Account
of the amount of Fees of Officers in Chancery in that
country.
Ordered, on the motion of Mr. PETER GRANT, that
there he laid before the House an Account of the
number of persons, male and female, imprisoned in
the Gaols of England and Wales, in the years
.1813
and 1814, distinguishing offences with which charged,
convictions, acquittals and discharges, Also, a
like Return for Ireland and Newgate, and a similar
Return for Scotland, for the years 1811, 1812, 1813,
and 1814.

Ordered, on the motion of Mr. MARSH, " that
there be laid before the House an Account of all the
Imports into Great Britain, from Canada, Nova Sco-
ria, and New Brunswick, and of all the Exports from
Great Britain tj the same, from the year 1800 to the
year 1814, both inclusive, distinguishing such arti-
cles in each year as exceeded £lOOO in value." The
Honourable Member moved for this Account to shew
the commercial value of these Colonies to this coun-
try, and to enable the House to judge whether there
was any adequate object in continuing the war for the
military occupation of the Lakes ?
Mr. HORNER gave notice of a motion for Thurs.
day, tot Papers relative to tho conduct of the war in
North A merica.

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