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notating their condition. The Hon. Gentlettlaa
:concluded with moving—" That an humble Addrev.
be presented to his Royal Highness the Prince Re-
gent, praying that he will be graciously pleased to
take into his cons;deration the situation of the Ea.
signs and Lieutenants of the army, and to direct that
the half-pay of each Lieetenant be advanced to i-s. GO.
and of each Ensign to 3s. Gd.
Sir EV R C COOTE seconded the motion.. No class
of men cles-o-ved or required aoentiou more than the
subalterns of the army ; and he relied on the confi-
dence and liberality of the House for giving comple!._
support to a measure so just, beneficial, and satisfac-
tory to the army at large.
The SPE:\ KER. observed, that he v.-as not awaro
of its bring mu +1 to specify any peculiar extent of li-
berality for the Crown ; it would therefore be judicioro
to alter the motion 11 ()witting the amount of the
sums, And merely to make the prayo: oldie petitiea
relalc to an undefined increase cfpay.
General G ASCOYN E thanked the Right Horny:-
ablelGentlenian for his suggestion, aio: altered
terms of the miltion.- •
Lord PALME-RSTON could not thilk that it
would he the duty of Government to take arranoe-
ments of this-sort. hot) consideration piecemeal ; t.
;he bear in mind the scale of the different
ranks, -and what troporoon the carne would bear tfa
the scale of the naval service. Ger.tlemen connected
with the army inight-verynaturally be exp;ered to fer-i
-fortheopeculiarart-erests of- their branch of the'ser-
yice but otbeiGentJemen might-take a d.ill•erent vie -as
;of, the subject*nd bsrpclined to thlaksthat the 1):;..,,;e;-
;--rori.4.:-. of tAlicers deserv,:d an incroase ; fitly rtoeht•he
of opinion that those who a ere yokinwonld have cr-
Iportonitirs of turning to foil- pursuits, which t
could not who hael se; ved a I.l't ,0137-rtion of &tit life;
sr). that the measure might Lord to corner-Ocoee% nice.:
serious Iran were now•i4pOrcili-oileiE .• He was read.:
to admit that the 'Ray of the Vosion was not sofrc;er:t
to support the sititat on of a Gertlerni:n ; the po--
posal of the:Woof:l able Giowral would got fiectuaiiy
to destroy the propcirtion'of ranks. He trusted the
Horace '„0„la be of opinion, that it would be better to
leave the scale on the footing upon which it now
stood, than to adopt a comparative scale, which can-
not he just towards all rank-.
Str.W. S PEW ART said a few words in favour
of the Address.

Sir J. S. YORKE said the pay of the Officers in
question, was equivalent to that et Officers of higher
comparative rank in the Navy, and it should be re-
collected that there were many Officers in this service
(Midshipmen) who, after six, seven, or eight years'
service, would not receive any half-pay at all.
The .CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, the House should recollect that they were now
called on not to he liberal with their own money, but
with that of the pultlic. IsLuWithstanding what had
been ....rid by the Honourable General,' as to the tri-
vial amount of this difference of pay, he had reason
to think that it would be fotind to he nearly double
what had been mentioned.- •The'L;entenent in the
navy was considerably superior 'in point of rank t-s
the' Lieutenant in the army ; 1e ranked equal to a
C.ti,tain and' the cOofaunding.or equalising of rank
would he destructive of discipline. • The Right Hon.
Gentleman'took a view of tlie Comp irative scale of
pay in each service, and-contended that it would he
'tOtally inverted if the proposition were adopted ; for
.any' attempt to improve the 'Vituation of a particular
class, without referenie to the who/e, would he pro.
ductive ot n 'thing (nit dlsComent, and diSsatistaction
in the service at large.
• 'Mr. GORDON was in favour of the increase. It
was p,:cwi ung:acious ih Ministeß who had jest
prevailed on the Committee to ;;riint 810,000 for the
avowed purposiof placing thirty-gee commissions at
the entire dispoial ot the Cianmander in Chief, coop?
phse the triyial addnion n•iw suggested. But the
conduct of Mihisiers WAS :t confusion of ccorAnny and
prodigality ;• and in this new tit of economy, when
they reminded the House that:they-were not voting
their own mOrrity, they had taken 41.0,01,0 from the
Civil List, to, ,be exeenAd in rclicolons gesvgasvit
festivities. Even that very night they had been cahed
upon to vote El 00,0n0 to the Clergy, and hesitated.
at voting a few thousands for the comfort of the En.
sign and Lieutenant. He thought the rePpie of
London would not mech rejoice, it they conceived
the money so expended might have been much better
employed in protecting those who had bravely fin:gilt
in defence of every thing that was dear to them.
—(Hear, hear!)
Lord CAST LEREAGH was reacty to admit,
that to oppose the Address was an extremely irksome
part to take ; but there was no doubt that if the pro.
position were successful, many other applications
would follow from individuals, who would conceive
they had equal claims. But however painful the sub-
ject might he for Parliament to discuss, they could
only deal with it on the average, or in relation to all
the other classes oldie service, as the question would
be how far the liberality of Parliament could be
pushed towards one class without receiving corres-
ponding claims from others. The Noble Lord re-
verted to the avidity with which the ranks of the
army had been filled, as a proof that it had not been
a pulley, speakinggenerally, to throw commissions
into the hands of those w ho had no means of support
but their pay ; and he concluded with intreating the
House not to suffer their feelings to carry them be-
yond what their duty would justify.
General GASCOYNE contended that the topic
was not a qte•stion of feeling, but of justice ; the in-
caredastehe was demanded by the situation of the Officer
n
du'pmportionate price which provisions be.ir
to his pay.
Lord PA I.MERSIONL, in explanation, stared
the proposed arrangement was not to be confined to
Offic,is now retiring on halt-pay, but was to extend
to all those who had been pot upon hail-pay during
the war.

Sir W. STUART, the CitAxcF.J.to,: of t!ie FAcim-
QuEit, and Lord cASTI.F.IIIAGH at vi tally explained.
Una divis on, the numbers were its f4inow :—For
►he Motion, 28—Agaitut it, 32—Majority 4.
l'ltkl'AliAllONs IN TIIE 1..1111,,„ X.

tic gallery was open, aftor tor d;irt,i n,
Mr. TILI(NEY was Asklng a tiuvatiou of Ow
Chancellor 1)1 tie Exchequer, resittcle.lg the %yip lc
exvence of the,c works.

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The CHANCF.I.I.OR ot the EXCHEQUER
teplied, that the dill.tei:t Office' s ot the 11011,.;
lit their anxiety to comply With the orJer
House, had immedi ady made their returns of what