Star.
London, England, 1807-07-22 00:00:00

CARRICIEVEIGUI SUCTION.

The time for entering into recognisance on the Petition com-
plaining iif the undue return of Sir James Craig for the town of
Chnickfergus was enlarged to this day feanight.
PARLIAMENTARY llLEcrinns.
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Mr JONES gave notice, that it was his intention. In the early
part of the en'uing Seffions, to move for leave to bring in a Bill to
compel Parochial Officers to give in on oath cumin rate-books ,
previous to Elections,
J,NATHAN IRUNDINTT.
l'*fr W. SMITH moved the order of the day that Jonathan
Brundrett be cant(' to the bar to be difebarged. He was brought
thither accordingly : ant ►
The 'PEAK Elk laid, that an unwamntabie delay having taken
place in the delivery of the writ for the Election for Menthe's
:or Poole, which bad been delivered to bias, and behaving refuted
to anfwer ecrtiin queftions put to him by the Houfe, relative to
the 'awe, had, for his contumacy, been committed to Newgate ;
her that, as be bad fence ramrod bintfelf fenfible of and forry for
hi.' ertrt, the 1-I.,ufe was willing to accept his fubmiffion, and to
ziau:e him to be tlScharied. And he was difeharged accordingly.
Mr p FF FRY moved, that this fall Jonathan Bniodrett do
attend the Houfe on Tburibtp, Alio that William Spank,
mten4 tb Houfe on the fame day. ..-Ordered.
A"TAL MILITARY CANAL hitt,.
The SECRETARY at WAR brought in the Royal MOOT
Cznal Bill. It was read a Brff time, and ordered to be read Sit*
eond time this day fe'uttight, and to be printed..;
rrsaT OF GUSANSAT.•
Mr. HUSKISSON brought up the accounts of fbips and ver•
fele, enter. d inwards and cleared °Ewan% with the flames of the
" feveral %KWh for and from the Port of Gocrigop--Orderld to lie
on the table.

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lIVTTLIMINT.OId SWARDS.
Cdond STANLZY, parkint to notice, staved tit ke" 6.1
gives to Mat In aNU warner! &pitch of the A of Mirka
lf. abd Owe 114 as rdatstie thretalaing [edemas for U-
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Mr. SHAW L,EFIVRE did not think the prefect was a time
to prefs fueb a meareital that -before the Houfe ;..thofe Gentle•
men of the Bar who were Members of that Houk were now ab
feat upon the circuit, and their advice upon a matter duds nature
would be very defiritile.
Mr. SIMEON thought it too late in the Sams to Introduce
a Bill ofthat nature.
Mr.WHITBREAD fabl.that his objedtione Were not &Pouch
to the time, as to the natute of the Bill propofed ; be did not think
inch a Bill would have 'friend in that Hoare.
The motion waithen negatived without a dilation.

**HAWKINS BROWNE* agree& MA Ihlly
Cid whit had been Rated of the general advantage of
educating the poor.. He thought the fame ohjettion,
that was made to the principle of this sill and the
Poor Laws in
.generalonight be made to, every other
human inftitutton. There were none of them ibfo-
lutely ?elle°, or which were not attendid with tone
difadvantages. He thought, however, that •it would•
be very difficult to efablith a fytLem of education by
compultion, as there was no compelling parents to
fend their children to thofe fehools. _ _

Mr. WILBERFORCE declared that he rote with
diffidence to give an opinion on the fubjea, as he had
never fufficiently turned his mind to the different
modes in which the objea could be belt effected. It
was a fubjea of fuck great importance that he
thought it would be better that they fhould decide
well, than that they 16°41 decide quickly. He had
heard the opinions of many Magiftrates in the coun-
try refpeaing this Bill, and, he was lorry to fay, the
majority of them did not think fo favourably of it
as he did. No man was more fentible than he was
of the great advantage of educating the poor. He
had leen it in the great diffstence there was between
the peafantry in the Northern.parts .of the country,
and thofe in the Southern and Weftern. He had
really been aftuninted lately at remarking the great
inferiority of the lower claffes in thofe countieiwhere
they were not educated. He thought that this was
more peculiarly required in Ireland; and that, per-
haps, on the inftruaion of the poor there, the very
exiftenee of this country depended. He thought that
inftration would confirm their attachment to this
country, and thew them the value of the conneftion.
No man was more a friend to educating the poor
than himfelf ; but he hoped the Houle would adopt
filch a mode as would meet the wifhes and opinions
of the country at large.
Mr. WHITBREAD Paid, that he was furprifed
to hear the Honourable Gentleman, at the .com-
mencement of his fpeech, exprefs a diffidence in deli-
, vering an opinion. He had fuppofed that his mind
had been fo turned to every fubjeff of the morals of
the people, that he would have been the man the
molt prepared to give a decided opinion on the fuli-
jet% In the courfe of his fpeech he was, however,
agreeably relieved, by hearing him emphatically de-
clare, that '4 the diffufion of knowledge was the
greatefl poffible bleffing to a nation." He was lure
that he had always hoped, that another race of men
for whom he had fo firenuoutly laboured (the Ain-
cans) would be in time much benefitted by the dif-
fufinn of the Gape). But how was the Gorpel to
be diffufed, unlefs people had fo much education as
to be able to read it ! How was any knowledge tp,
be obtained, if the very keys of that knowledge
were 'withheld ! He claimed it as the birthright
of every fobjed in the United Kingdom, that thofe
keys of knowledge Would be -given them. The-Hon.
Gentleman had appeared_to think that it was of the
tall neceffity that the poor of Ireland ftwilld be edu-
cated. If this were fo, furely there was no tittle to
be loft. He .reminded the Honourable Gentleman
that we who *ere only fojourners on earth for a
Wort while, mull legiflate for the paffing gentration
as well as for pofttrity, and that, if the meifure
were allowed to be of great importance,• it Wulff
not be unneceffirrily delayed. He confidered him.
felf in the hands of gradual abolitionifts. The one;
mien, of the meafure would of made tract for the
amendment, in order to get eid of the Bill. 'He
hoped that the Honourable Gentleman would not
take that courfe. He could fee no objea in further
delay—for even long as u had been printed, Gentle-
men who came down to debate is 4kl not appear to
have read it ; for, by the Bill, Magifirates had only
power to compel the fchools to be built, but cer-
tainly not to compel parents to fend their Children.
They had allo power in thole parithes where there
were already fchools, to futpend the operation ()lithe
Alt altogether. If after fo many months, Gentle.
men would not give themfelves the trouble of read-
ing his Bill, he did not think they would do fa in as
many years. He therefore mull prefs the deeifion of
the Houfe upon the fubjea in this feffion. As to the
pantiles in the metropolis, they were. certainly diffe-
rently circutultanced from thole in the country ; and
as the Police Magill rates were elto of a different
defcription from the Magiarates in the country, per-
haps it might not be right that they &could have the
fame power.
Mr. WILBERFORCE, in explanation, Paid his
mind was completely made up on the neceffity of
educating the poor I it was only on' the belt mode
that he had doubts.

Sir JOHN NEWPORT agreed that it' would be
a great benefit to Irelantra 'have the children of
the poor educated, providecrthere was no fpirit of
profelytifm in the fyilem of education, or no attach.
.tnent to the principles of one religious fat more than
another. If it were to go upon a fpirit of profelytifm,•
he was convinced that it would fail. In fupport of
.this opinion, he read a long 'extra& from Abe' wOr'k
of the celebrated Mr. Howard; who hid traVelied in
Ireland: There were fundi
'be nearly adequate to the etpence. TA. :funds for
the Charter Schools (much abufed, 4'44 divertedOike
all other endowments, toprivate pelages) were very
ample.
Mr. ROSE kid, that,, to his knowledge, there was
, fo general a difinclination and. prejudice againft this
. Bill, that it would be almoll impotfible 'to carry •it
into effect in its indent shape... He was fure, how-
ever, that the labours of Mr. Whitbread would not
be entirely 1011. He had turned the attention of the
country' to the fubjeft, and he made no doubt but
fome.plan might be Qruck out, which would' meet
the general feelings of thole who would have the
execution of the taw.
Mr. SIMEON (poke againft the Bill. He coat.
dered that in the agricultural parilher, parents could
not afford to.fend their children to fchool, at an age
that they could earn Come (mall matter for the Cub-
finance of the family:
Mr. LUSHINGTON fupparted the Bill.
Lord-MILTON could not allow much weight to
the objection of parents in agricultural parifher, not
being able to afford to (pare, their children time to
learn, when he knew-that, in the manufalluring
dif-
trias, they did give them education, and yet it was
in the manufatturing diftrifts that child/al were of
the reatett ufe to their parerits, as they, many of
them, could earn as much as half a4tuinct a week.
It was poffible, indeed, that the voluntary contribu-
tions might dimmilk when there was a' compulfory
ace, becaufe then the fubfctibert would fuppofe that


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