Star.
London, England, 1831-07-12 00:00:00

urns PARK.

Mr. ROBINSON asked why carriages had been refused
admittance into Hyde Park that day.
Lord DUNCANNON said he had not known the fact
before, and was not prepared to give an answer.
Mr. ROBINSON hoped some iuqulry would be made.

WATERLOO-BRIDGE WEiV STREET.

Lord DUNCANNON moved the on►cr of the day, for
the further consideration of the Waterloo-bridge New Street
Bill.

Mr. D. W. HARVEY said, he claimed the attention of
the house to the bill which had for its object the expenditure
of 60,0001. perhaps trouble that sum, without any purpose
useful to the public. We bad in this country two Chancel-
lots of the Exchequer. One who brought forward the ge-
neral expenditure of the country, the other the Chief Com-
missioner of Woods and Forests, who had a property of the
value of 20,000,0001. under his controul. • A property that
produces from 600,000 L to 700,0001. a year ; and yet, from
the year 1813 not a farthing of its revenue was brought to
the public account ; but the whole was squandered in build-
I lug palaces that were a disgrace to the country, and other
wasteful projects : (hear.) He thought when there were so
many claims on the public money, opening a street from
Waterloo-bridge to Bow-street was not one on which
60,0001. ought to be expended. Look to the state of
Westminster Hall—et the manner in which the public
records were kept--at the state of the Judges' ChamL•ers,
in Sergeants' Inn, and then say whether public money
• was not more wanted for other purposes than this street:
(hear, hear.) He believed few of the new members
had seen the bill. The Duke of Bedford was said to have
given 4,0001. and the Marquis of Exeter 12,0001. but the
noble marquis was only to exchange property of the value
of 120001. he in fact gave nothing. The estimate for the
new street was 60,0001. but who could say it would not
cost 100,0001. They all knew how small a part of the
expense of the Palace and Strand improvements was given in
the estimate. It was said by some that it was but the be-
ginning of a new street over Long acre to Tottenham-court-
road ; and who could say that such a plan would be com-
pleted fur 2,000,0001. The public had no property in the
vicinity of this new street that could be improved by it;
and that being the case, he would ask the noble lord
whe her he had 60,0001. or 6,0001. to give away for what
was of no public benefit. He hoped no money would be
given fur such purposes by di.: Woods and Forests, but
that every such grant should be brought forward by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer. Ile would move that the bill
b: lecoomei led.

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Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Ile had understood
that the new street would make an opening to the north part
of the metropolis ; he now found it would only make a short
blind street, and could not agree to it without further in-
quiry. Ile thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer should
bring the revenue of the Woods and Forests annually before
the house. (Ilear.)
Lord DUNCANNON said, no shilling of the land re-
venue could be laid out but under the controul of Penis.
ment. No public servant could pay more attention to the
duties of his office than Lord Lowt bet had done. ( Hear,
hear.) He had himself misled the house on a former night,
by stating that Lord Exeter had contributed 12,0001. he
had since learned that the noble lord had not contributed
any thing, being informed that it would rather be inju-
rious than beneficial to his property. The parties inter-
ested in the new road that had been mentioned, had been
expressly told by Lord Lowther, and since by him, that
got ailment would not contribute to the extension of the
suet farther than Long-acre If it was the wish of the
house that the bill should be referred to a committee he
should not object to it.
Illt. WARBURTON .aid he had originally supported
the bill, but could have no objection to its being re-commit-
ted. If a new street were made from the Strand to the nor-
thern part of the town, more would be received for duty on
bricks and timber than government was giving towards .t—
-(A laugh.) He had property that would be benfited by the
new street, and if the improvements were valued he would
subscribe that sum. (Hear.)
Lard A L CHORP said it was a general opinion that a
new street from Waterloo-bridge would be an advantage to
the public, and on that consideration he had agreed to go.
verameut tffording it acme assistance ; but could have no
objection to inquiry.
Mr. CROKER said, when it was said the public would
derive no advantage, pecuniary advantage alone could be
meant. Erny great nation, however, had an interest in
having its metropolis healthful, beautiFul, and convenient.
The improvements of the Strand were allowed to be a public
advantage, and it would be poor economy which would re.
fuse the sum now asked for one of the greatest improvements
of the metropolis.
Mr. J. WOOD said he could have no objection to refer the
bill to a Committee, and he hoped the result would be, that
the Committee could couscittitiouly recommend the passing
the bill. One of the greatest advantages of such improve-
ments was the saving of the time and labour in nien and
horses. The public felt an important advantage in taking
down Exeter Change.
Mr. HUNT thought the alteration would be of very little
benefit to the public. He thought those parties who were to
receive the benefit ought to conic forward, and the public
would beat its pare.
Mr. Alderman WOOD said he had suggested to Govern-
ment to open streets opposite all the bridges. He was very
mush charged with jobbing in all imptovements—but tint
should not deter him. He bad suggested to Lord Goderich
to have the new street opened to Bower-street, which could
be done for 50,0001. what was proposed by the present bill
would be very defective.
Mr. HUDSON GURNEY said he would recommend
to the Noble Lord, before he made any new street to the
North-road, to make the Nonh.road passable. He
thought all roads should be paid for by those who passed
over them.
Lord DUNCANNON said, when it was determined to
remove the tuaapikes, it was expected the roads would be
kept in repair, which he believed was the case, with one ex.
eeption only.
Mr. HARVEY'S amendment was then agreed to, and
the Bill ordered to be recommitted.

Alr. sail he wished to state that he had al-
ways found Twirl Lowther vtty attentive to .be public in-
terests in all his communications with the Noble Loed.—
( Hear. hear.)
Mr. KENNEDY said it was highly proper that the
people of Scotland should know that the Bill for Reform
of the Representation In Scotland should not be delayed
he therefore hedged the Noble Lord to state whether the
Scotch and Irish Reform Bills were to be passed during the
present session? _ .

Lord ALTHORP said, he stated on Friday night that it
was intended to carry the English Bill through the House
first; but nothing but being beat by a majority of that
House should prevent their passiog the Scotch and Irish
Bills during the present session.
Colonel SIBTIIOIII'E put a question to the Noble
Chancellor of the Exchequer respecting some Indian prize.
money.
Lord ALTHORP explained, by enumeratirg the dif.
ferent proceedings that had taken place regarding the. prize.
Janney ; and Aided that the present Government had, by
advice of the Attorney-General, committed the matter en.
tirely for re•consideration.