Star.
London, England, 1823-05-10 00:00:00

THE SHERIFF OF DUBLIN.

Sit R. HERON'. iu the Chair.
John Jackson called in, and examined by the CHAIRMAN.—
Re ides in Grafton.strcet:Dublin, and keeps a toy or Toahridge
wisrebouse.

lly Colonel BARRY.—Do you recollect having been present at
a party at the house of Mr. Sibthorp, Dublin, in the month of
December last?-1 do.

The witness then went on 'to state, that the party consisted of
nine persons; Mr. and Mrs. Slathorp, their son and daughter,
John 111'Connell, George Graham, Sheriff Thorpe, a lady
(whose name we could not catch), and witness himself. Ile did
not hear Sheriff Thorpe make use of any words respecting a.
Orange panel wh!els he had in his pocket. Was in the room
during the whole time while M'Connell was present. Is very
sure that such expressions as those just mentioned were not
used by Sheriff Thorpe ;'it was impossible that they could have
been uttered without being heard by witness ; had they been
used they must hive attracted his attention. Witness was fur
the principal p..it of the night close to Sheriff Thorpe; nearer
than M'Connell, who could not of courie have heard the. Sheriff
say anything which must not have Leen audible to himself.
By a,. jo.—Witness retrained tin nearly eleven o'clock ;
was nut constantly sitting or standing, but he means to say th..t
during; the three, hour's that he remained he 'was constantly
neater the Sheriff than M'Connell, and on that assertion he
'cited his chains to credir. Catds were played.
Did the Sheriff make one of the party ?—.He
At what game did you play?—Five and ten. (A laUgb.)
Describe that game, for really I never heard of it before.
here the witness entered into a description of tho*.garne. Six
ptr,oits played at it. Shetiff Thorpe and hirnself.(as we•undir_
stood) were parts-rs, and he must therefore have heard any
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the ladies
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The card-Flaying did notesannue the whole night.
I. le, hitezirais of the play, do yop undertake to say that the
"guntlemeit sink ladles' did bat .rtilt add talk together, aik it usual

at other parties?L--They did not in the beginning of the night;
but in the latter part they did Antermix.
Could you then have beard every word used by Sheri!,
Thorpe ?--Do you mean to say that you beard every syllable be
uttered?—(The answers were inaudible.)
By Colonel Baaar.--If such marked ezpresetrets had been
used, would they not have attracted your attention?.They would.
Mr. JONll3.—Teet if you heard theint—l feel very confident
that I could not have beard demi. - -
Mr. It. Sterns. —What! could there have been no conversa-
tion about aoy matter without your hearing and taking notice of
It?—None. There was some cooversation about the riots, in
which conversation the Sheriff took a part. No mention was
made of the Marquis Wellesley.
Did you hold the Knave of Otitis in your band?—No, not on
that occasion ; but another person did, who made a reflection
upon it.
Come, let us have that reflection.—He threw it down, and
said Damn the Lord Mayer." (.1 laugh.)
Was th•ze anything said by that person about having " a lick"
at the Lord Mayor?—No.
Is there anytbing peculiar in the voice of Sheriff Thorpe, that
renders it impossible that he could have spoken without your
taking notice of it?—There is not.
You are quite sure that the expressions (respecting the Orange
panel), were not used by him ?—1 am.
Do you think it is not possible that they could have been made
use of without your hearing them ?—lt is not impossible.
Why then did you not give that answer at first ?—I did not
understand the question.
In what way did you understand it ?--.( Answer inaudible.)
What sized man used the expressions relating to the Lord
Mayor ?—A short man • his name is George Graham. A lady
observed that she thoutit his expressions extraordinary for so
I ttle a man.

Was it extraordinary then that a little man should damn the
Lord Mayor any more than a tall man, for you say that the other
expressions were not used?—No.
And you are positive that it was solely to the expressions
'• Damn the Lord Mayor," that the lady directed her observa-
t .ms)—Yes.

The witness then stated that he did not accompany the Sheriff
to the door, and never heard him say a word of Lord Wellesley
during the whole evening. Cannot say whether Sheriff Thorpe
is an Orangeman or not. Is not one himself, but is far the Pro-
testant ascendancy.
By Mr. BROUGIJAM.—Tiow many persons were at the party ?
—Nine; six Gentlemen and three Ladies. They sat at cards
far three hours. Witness was there before the Sheriff came,
a Id remained after bins.

During that time there was a good deal of conversation
amongst the nine persons you have mentioned ?—Those who
played cards had not much leisure for conversation.
How long were you there before. the card-playing corn-
niemed ?—About fifteen or twenty minutes. It was not for the
purpose of playing at cards that he went to Sibtliorp's house, but
to visit lima for old acquaintance sake, he being ill. In the first
part of the eve-niug the Ladies sat in a distant part of the room.
And where the Gentkmen?—ln the centre.

To some questions put by the Honourable and framed Gen-
tleman, the witness replied in a manner which produced the
following

Pray,-Sir, do you think you will gain credit by that mode of
answering 7-1 think 1. will.
Do you know where you are ?—(Answer inaudible.)
Examination continued.—Tbey were all conversing together.
The Sheriff, during the whole of the fifteen or twenty minutes
for which the conversation lasted before the card-table was set,
was one of the knot in which it was carried on. The Sheriff was
on the right hand side of the fire, witness was on the left. Did
rot remain in those relative positions during the whole time;
might have advanced or receded a step ; but during the whole
twenty minutes no person was between witness and the Sheriff
but Graham.

What was there remarkable in all this that impressed it so
strongly on your memory 7—(Answer inaudible).
What coonecti•m had that with the precise relative positions of
the six men?—(Answer inaudible).
Did your having asked that question fix thole relative positions
more strongly on your mind 7—lt did.
What convection had the bottle with it ? Ilow happens it that
you can so positively state the positions of your friends?—From
an expression used by M'Connell afterwards—the gross re9ec-
tion• or. the party which he tittered. The witness then described
the position of the party at cards. Took no memoranda.—
In the conversation that preceded the card playing, several per-
sons spoke together ; did not attend more particularly to what
wa, said by Sheriff Thorpe than by any one else. If Sheriff
Thorpe and another person spoke at the same time, he could
not pay more attention to him than to the other ; it was a. desul-
tory com:rsation, and his attention was not particularly directed
to Sheri@• Thorpe.
By Mr. Li. Sono.—How long was it after that evening that
you heard M'Connell had stated that such and such expressions
had been used ?—A very few days.
By Mr. Jonas.—Can you state the relative positions of the
persons forming every other company cf six or nine, in which
you have been since last December 7-1 do not go much into
c ottpany.
Try and recollect, have you been in any other society of that
number since 7—Witnees replied, that he would not undertake
to say that he had not, nor could be undertake to state the posi-
tions of the persons composing any other party of the same num-
ber, that he might have been at.

By Mr. Pz.t:N►aTT.—l think it impossible any one could have
said anything in that company without my bearing.
By Mr. Gsarratto—l did not hear the Lord Lieutenant's
name mentioned. I did not hear any one say—" I wish the
devil had the 3larquis %Valesley."
By Sir G. Ilitt..—My hearing a few days afterwards what
N•Connell had said, called my attention particularly to the re-
lative position of the parties, and all that passed there.
By Mr. Alderman Tuostrsotr.—l paid particular attention to
the way in which the parties stood, because I was interested in
hearing about the bottle. I know th..t M'Conncll made use of
a gross expression about the rioters, but that 1 cannot remember.
By Mr. Ilisouenase—Sheriff Thorpe was in the room when I
came, but I don't know how long he had been there before me.
I said before, that he came in after me. I recollected all the
matter in consequence of the gross expressions of M'Connell,
on my question to Graham, about the throwing of the bottle;
but I don't remember the expression nor the answer. Witness
went away after blr. Sheriff Thorpe, whu went away accom-
panied by his wife.
The examination was then continued by Mr. F. BUXTON and
Mr. Sveas.—On being questioned as to the grossness of expres-
sion which had been mentitmed, witness said he considered all
expressions to be gross which were not grammatically correct.—
I le, however, by no means meant that the character of his whole
testimony should rest on the accuracy of that answer.
Examined by Mr. Baowstt.ow•.—Witness said, that If Tar.
Sheriff Thorpe had declared that he had the panel in his pocket,
be should have considered that a gross expression.
The witness then withdrew.

Wiliam Graham examined by Colonel Bator.—Stated him-
self to he a Printer. Had been at Sibthorpe's soon after the riot
at the Theatre ; witness here named the party present ; Sheriff
Thorpe had been in the room before witness • believed he had
been in the room before NeCounell ; the Ladies were near the
Bre, and the Gentlemen near the piano; had not heard Sheriff
Thorpe use any expression about the panel ; no such expression
bad been used in his hearing ; bad it been used witness =lit have
beard it ; Sheriff Thorpe lett the company first.
By Mr. ISUOUGHA3I. Witness had been on an ez.rdficio infor-
mation. lie believed a bill against hint had been ignored by the
Grand Jury. Hadispoken abusively of the witnesses against the
Sheriff. Serjeant Harris said to witness, "If you were heard
to use these expressions, you might be ducked." Had not talked
so of witnesses, but of people of bad character generally. Might
have been flourishing a sword-cane in the witnesses' room. Might
have said, that he would do some execution with it before he
left London. Did not attend particularly to all that fell from
Sheriff Thorpe at Mr. Sibthorpe's. The Ladies and Gentlemen
sat together. Nollody asked witness who threw the bottle.—
Thought all the party played together. Winless, M'Connell, and
Jackson, weut away together. Witness sat down at cards with
the company.
By Mr. IL Smern.—Witness played the Knave of Clubs and
said, " There is the Lord Mayor and be d--. 41 to him." Had
no recollection that any Lady said anything. Had never wished
the Lord Lieutenant at the Devil. Nothing then passed as to
the riot at the Theatre.

You are in the habit of d-.-g the Lmd Mayor 1-1 am.
.- . .

Ate you in the habit of d--,gthe Lord Lieutenant.?—No.
Did any one d—n the Lord Lieutenant ?—No.
Did you wish him to be sent to lleaven!—No.
By Sir J. MACKIIITosu.—Are you a sworn Orangeman ?—I am.

The witness was ordered to withdraw, and the Serjeant in-
structed to keep him apart from Au other witnesses.
Colonel BARRY begged leave to ask the Right Hon. the At-
tonner-Gsseralfor Ireland if he bad any objection to answer a
flew quit:lnns in his place?
/dr. PLUNKETT said be had not.•
Colonel BARRY placed a letter in Mr. Plunkett's hand.-
117 u that letter written by the Right Hon. Gentleinan's direc-
tions ?—lt was.

What was the reason of the Right Hon. Gentleman's writing
that letter ?—Because I was apprehensive, from what I beard,,
that an attempt would be made to impanel an improper Jury.
May I ask what would the nature of that Jury be which the
Right Hon. Gentleman would consider a proper Jury ?—He
(the Attorney General) wished for a panel that should not be
composed exclusively-of one party.
May I ask the Right Honourable Gentleman if a man being
lan Orangeman would be a sufficient objection with hint to be
admitted on the Jury ?—Certainly ; it would be perhaps a legal
objection : to impanel a whole Jury of Orangemen would be a
gross violation of the law.

Mr. BROUGHAM objected to an examination of the Right
Honourable Gentleman, in a case where his own honour and cha-
racter were so deeply concerned.
Colonel BARRY said he had taken care to ask the Right
Honourable Gentleman if he would have any objection to answer
a few questions, before he had put any.
Mr. WETH ERELL thought the House should know to what
extent the examination was to be carried, before any further
questions were permitted.
Mr. WYNN.—It appeared to him to be open to the House
to call for any Honourable Gentleman's testimony. That the
House had a right to examine the Attorney-General, there could
be no doubt ; but it was another question whether they could
ask him touching the sort of Jury which he wished to have, as
that trenched upon his office.
Colonel BARRY.—After what has been said, I cannot go on
without explaining myself. The situation in which lam placed
is a painful one. I have undertaken to conduct this cue, per-
haps unfortunately for those concerned, and no• consideration
shall induce me to shrink from the performance of my duty—
(Hear).—l will examine every witness that I think necessary to
the defence of the party accused. If the House think I ought not
to push this inquiry further, I will desist of course; but until such
an opinion is expressed, I shall feel myself called upon to proceed.
The question which I have put certainly was one of opinion, but
I meant that it should be introductory to questions of fact. I
wish then to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman whether he has ever
had the rules and regulations of Orangemen laid before him?
Mr. PLUNK ETT.—I do not know exactly what the ques-
tion means. I certainly have had a printed book, and written
extracts from books of the rules and regulations of Orangemen
laid before me ; its that sense they have been laid before me.—
Mr. WSTIIEKKLL was rising to repeat his objection, when
Mr. PLUNKETT added—" I beg the Honourable Gentle-
man's pardon, but I wish to say, that I will answer any question,
but r_ reserve to my own case the right which I would exercise
in that of any other witness, of objecting to any question which
I consider irrelevant. If the Right Honourable Gentleman
who conducts this inquiry thinks the question relevant to She-
riff Thorpe's defence, I will answer it, but I think myself it
is irrelevant."

Mr. WETHERELL repeated his objection.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL (of England) did not think
his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Plunkett) being Attorney-
General for Ireland, was necessarily a bar to his being examined
as a witness—(Hear) —lf any improper questions had been put,
he (the Attorney-General) would have felt it his duty to object
to them, but to his knowledge no such questions had hitherto
been asked.

Sir JA NI PS AI ACK NTOS II contended that the House
had a right to examine the Irish Attorney-General. He consi-
dered the course of inquiry pertinent too, for as it had been said
that the Orangemen were a faction so influenced by party feel-
ings that it was improper to put them upon a Jury, it was a fair
subject of inquiry to ascertain what the rules and regulations of
thir. faction %1 ere.

Mr. ABEItCROMBY agreed that such an inquiry was very
proper towards other witnesses, but very improper towards the
first Jaw Officer of the Crown, as it seemed as if the object was
to extract from him a legal opinion upon this association.
Mr. PLUNK ETT said, that in a popular sense, he had no
objection to answer the Right Hon. Gentleman's question.
Mr. SCA 11 LETT said the safest course was to pursue the
inquiry, and trust to the sound discretion of the Right Hon. '
Gentleman himself, as to those questions which he would feel
himself warranted in answering—(hear, hear).
By Colonel BA llRY.—llas the Bight Honourable Gentlemln
any objection to state whether these extracts were those of
Lodge 1612?
Mr. Ikuro:trr.—l don't know.
Will he object to state what was the nature of these written
extracts 7—l have no objection ; but the only difficulty arises
from the. badness of my memory. So far as that helps me, I
shall answer the question.
I wish only to ask, whether these extracts differed In sub-
stance from the printed book 7—By the written extracts, I mean
the names of individuals, and minutes of their proceedings, ex-
clusive of regulations. But I cannot speak correctly to any
thing particular.
Wi.l he object to state whether these Papers were procured
for him by persons of the name of Atkinson?—l think I ought
not to answer that question.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH thought, that the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman should have been asked whether the knowledge which he
had on the subject was obtained officially ?
Mr. R. S nun thought this would be unfair, as his declin-
ing to answer would lead to the inference that he had obtained
the information in the manner stated. He asked why was not a
written copy of these regulations put in?
Mr. CA LCRA Fr.—l have a copy in print of the Orange
regulations.
Colonel BARRY disclaimed the intention of extracting any
thing from the Attorney-General by inference.
Mr. PLUNKETT said, he would have given the same an-
swer to any other Member of the (louse.
Colonel BARRY said he would not press the examination
further.—The last question was then ordered to be expunged
from the minutes. _ _

......
Mr. 11. M A tun N.—l wish to ask the Right. Hen. Gentle.
man a question. Do you not think that it was in the power of
a Sheriff, fairly-minded, to Impanel a Jury which would do jus-
tice to both parties, from the large panel of the city of Dublin?
• Mr. PLUNK ETT.-1 don't know that I can object to that
question.
Mr. M A RTIN.—Pm sure the Sheriff could,—(A laugh).
Mr. PLU N KETT.—Then I ought to ask you the question
(Laughing).
Mr. MARTI N.—Tf you did, I could not object to its Irrele.
vancy—l would answer it.
A conversation now took place as to the next witness, wbo
should be called, but upon the suggestion of Mr. WYNNE,

Thomas Sibthorpe was called.
T..Sibthorpe was next examined by Colonel Basxr.--.Witness
was a medical student. Was present at a company at his father's
home on the 17th December. Had heard no expression about
an Orange panel from Sheriff Thorpe. Must have heard it if used.
By Sir J. MaexiNrosts.—The Sheriff and his wife came the
first; and then he thought Jackson. There was a conversation
about the riot in the Theatre; Graham then said, speaking of the
Lord Mayor, " Bad luck to you, Fleming." The Sheriff wished
the Lord Lieutenant at the devil. As far as witness knew, there
was no conversation about the bottle. The wish of the Sheriff
about the Lord Lieutenant was his parting benediction. Others
might not have heard the remark. Witness had spoken to
M'Connell on the 26th or 27th of December, and told him that
neither he (the witness) nor any of his family had heard the re-
mark about the panel.
By Mr. Page.— Witness had read the evidence of M'Connell.
By Mr. It. Swam-1111u wu the first time he had heard the
Lord Lieutenant mentioned during the evening. He,ltad not
heard Sheriff Thorpe express any ill will towards Lord Welles-
ley, or wish him out of the country, or that things would
not be well till he was out of the country ; but only that he
wished him at the devil, like a grace after dinner, without any
connexion with anything lets.
By Mr. Seaawrz—Sheriff Thorpe joined in a conversation
about the riots at the Theatre; but he gave no remarkable or
particular opinions, but merely as to the facts. The conversation
was general, and be did not recollect any particular conversation
with any one. He had no particular conversation with Graham
that evening. He did not remember where Graham or Sheriff
Thorpe sat before they went to cards. Graham and the Sheriff
might have sat together without witness remembering it. The
conversation was so general that he could not mention any of it.
By Mr. Bittour.—He did not remember whether, before that
time, any of the alleged rioters had been committed to prison.
By Mr. Joxis.—Sheriff Thorpe and M'Connell were together

from eight to eleven o'clock ; Irit he did not think that any con-
versation pissed which he did not hear.
By Alderman THciatrson.—lle knew that Graham had been
charged as a rioter at the Theatre; but Oraisam,in this =Weer-
sation, did not express any opiMon as to that riot.
Colonel BARZT next called John Crosby Graves,-1 Police Ma-
gistrate of Dublin.—Recidlected the riot at the Theatre on the
14th of December. He was there. First of all three persons
were taken up ; and afterwards Graham and James Forbes were
accused of being concerned in that riot. Forbes was first ap-
prehended in the Theatre by witness. He was discharged, but
again charged with an attempt to murder the Lord Lieutenant.
Public feeling in Dublin was highly exasperated.
Did he think that the committal of Forbes tended to increase
that exasperation ?—lt was one of many circumstances that
might have increased that exasperation. Ile did not commit
Forbes. There were informations against Forbes, but they
were not sworn. One was as to a conversation after the riot at
the Theatre, which was of a more serious nature than the others.
He could not say that he subscribed the information on which
Forbes was capitally committed. A detainer was lodged against
Forbes, which was said to come from the Council Chamber, or
the Taw Officers of the Crown, he did not recollect which. The
committal of Forbes was signed by Major Sim
William Leedom called by Colonel BARRY.—Is a tallow- ,
chandler in Dublin. lie knew a pehon named Ormsby, who is
dead. He had a conversation with him a few days before his
death. , lle called on Ormsby, who was in a very weak state •
and, speaking of the traversers for the riot, he said, " The lads
had got off very well; but they little thought that poor Ormsby,'
who was soon going before Davy Jones. was the man that
threw the rattle."—He believed Ormsby to be serious, and
aware of his danger.
By Mr. Gootsvax.—Ormsby was not confined in Newgate,
but was only a visitor to Handwich.
By Mr. PLunicerr.—He never attempted to impugn the testi-
mony of any of the witnesses on the trial ; he was particularly
intimate with Graham, Forbes, and Brownlow ; but he is not a
Member of any Lodge.
By Mr. BROUGHAM.—He is an Orangeman, and a Purpletnan,
and had taken the oaths ; there was no higher colour connected
with the Orange system than the Purple ; he believed that
Ormsby was perfectly aware of his danger when he spoke of a
person named Davy Jones.
R. Gilbert called, and examined by Colonel BARM—He is
Undet Jailer of Newgate ; a man came to the prison and iden-
tified Ormsby as the person who threw the rattle ; Major Tandy
was present; the name of the man who identified Ormsby was
Lewis ; Major Tandy was in a situation to hear everything that
Paned.
_ _

By Loud Alivrox.—Thought it an extraordinary circumstance
that Ormsby should be pointed out. Thought it would be right
to communicate it to the Government, but thought it not neces-
sary to go to the Crown Officers, as Major Tandy,who is a 'Po-
lice Magistrate, heard it. Lewis is a Sub-Sheriff of the county
of Kildare, and, as the Witness imagined, easy to be found.
By Lord Mn.vow.—Lewis said he was in a situation in which
he could see Ormsby throw the rattle.
By Mr. PLusterr.—Lewis positively pointed out Ormsby as
the man who threw the rattle.

By Sir J. Lewts.—Ormsby and Graham were not alike in
their persons. Mr. Stodart was the gentleman who told wit-
ness what Lewis's name was.—The witness withdrew.
Colonel BARRY said he had no other witnesses to call at
present; his other witnesses were not arrived; it would be for
the House to - ay, to what time the Committee would adjourn.
• Mr. GOULBURN said, the Irish Insurrection Act stood
for Monday ; any day after that would be convenient to him.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH said, he wished to put a few questions to
Sheriff Cooper.—The Sheriff was therefore called in, and ex-
amined.—lt was four or five days before the Commission that
Mr. Poole applied to be put on the panel. Don't think the panel
was settled before Poole made his application.
Robert Henry Moore has known Sheriff Thorpe since 1817 ;
but Mr. Thorpe had never been at his house.—After some other
immaterial questions, the witness withdrew. •
The House then resumed, the Chairman reported progress,
and obtained leave to sit again on Wednesday.
It was ordered that the House, at its rising, should adjourn
to Monday.
♦William Hull and several other witnesses were, on the motion
of Colonel BARRY, ordered to attend the House this day se'nnight.
Mr. WILLIAMS postponed his motion on the subject of the
Appellant Jurisdiction of the House of Lords to the 4th of June.
The Irish Commercial Credit Bill, and Irish Unlawful Oaths
Bill, were ordered to be read a second time on Monday.
The Tithe Composition Bill was committed for Friday.
The other Orders were disposed of, and the House adjourned
at Half-past Twelve o'Clock.

THE EVENING STAR.

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The proceedings of the House of Commons last
night exhibited two remarkable instances of the en-
lightened commercial views by which the present
Administration of this country are guided.

The first related to the Silk Manufacture. Mr.
THOMAS WILSON presented a Petition from the Silk
Manufacturers of London and Westminster, against
what are termed the Spitalfields Acts, which impose
so many restrictions on the silk trade of the Metro-
polis, that it has of late years declined here con-
siderably, while in other parts of the country where
these Acts are not in force it has flourished amazingly.
Mr. RICARDO expressed his astonishment, that in the
year 1823, Acts so contrary to all sound policy
could be in existence. Mr. Hussctasorr admitted that
it was indeed astonishing, but stated that he had not
been one tveek in office before he had turned his at-
tention to the necessity of their repeal, and that it
was his intention, on the first open day, to move a
Resolution preparatory to bringing In a Bill on the
subject. He found that in some quarters (alluding,
we presume, to the journeymen manufacturers
whose wages the Magistrates are, by the Spitalfields
Acts, empowered to fix from time to time) there
prevailed a strong opinion in favour:of the existing
law, but he would not be withheld by such
prejudices from doing his duty to the Public. This
declaration of the Right Honourable Member was

received with universal satisfaction by the
,Not a dissentient voice was heard; except only that
Mr. Ewell, who concurred in principle w Me,
HusicissoN, wished at the same time that the indivi:
duals concerned (the journeymen manufactureN
should have an opportunity of stating their sentimunee
on the subject. To this there can, and will of course
be no objection; but we hope that, if any ;lotion,.
able Member has more influence with these inditic
duals than another, it will be honestly and zealously
exerted to explain to them how much their real itxt,
-rests must be promoted by restoring matters -to that
free and unfettered state by which labour is alseirs
surest of obtaining its just rewards.
The other instance of wise reform to which welind
alluded, related to the Soinch Linen Manufacture...;
Mr. HUSKISSON moved for the repeal of several xi;
tutes which impose regulations injurious to
branch of trade. They had been passed, as he ex:
pressively remarked, when the Housemen ix thehauy
of interfering with the business of individuals, and
were of such ingenious absurdity, that one of thee
professed to regulate not only the shape of the cloth,
but the number of threads in every hank of yarn,
Here too, however, it seems, there are prejudices to
contend with ; but these the Hon. McAteer propose:
to soothe, in a way which of itself constitutes a
great and pleasing novelty in legislative practice..
If," says Mr. HVSKISSON, " there are any so
prejudiced in favour of the custom as to
abide by it, the Bill will leave them free to do so,
I removing, however, all penalties from those IA ho think
it wiser to dispense with it." Here again the House
mere unanimous in their approbation of the measure
proposed by Government, and leave was given ti
bring in the Bill.

If Ministers go on in this way there can be hut
little doubt of the benefits they will render to thi
country, which has suffered and still suffers greatly
from the multiplicity of restrictive Laws which "the
habit of interfering" has heaped on its trade and ma.
nufactures ; but it will have one effect whicil "e do
not, we confess, contemplate with equal feelings of
satisfaction. Wicked as party spirit generally is, it
is an amusing thing in its moments of passion and
tribulation. We are seldom more entertained than
when we see The Chronicle or Times in a rage; bat
this pleasure we shall be in danger of losing en-
tirely, should Ministers persist in furnishing thee
with many such trials of temper as the proem
—The Chronicle, for instance, is this morning war
the dullest Papers imaginable; and if one were to
ask Mr. LAMBTON, or Mr. BENNET, or Mr. Meceo.
NM.D, or any other of the party, what is the reasor,
we are sure their answer would be—" Why, bere'ta
pretty Whig Paper for you! It says, that Every
credit is due to that' Right Honourable Gentleman
(Mr. Husmi s.so sr, forsooth !), Mr. %Pa r. LACE, and Mr.
ROBINSON, for their exertions (their exertions!!!)
relieve the trade and industry of the country from
injudicious restrictions!!!'"

It will be seen, by our report of the proceedings
last night in the House of Common, that Mr.
BaotiostAst made. some inquiry of Mr. CANNING as
to the truth of certain rumours respecting Austria and
Russia. .In answer to the first question, as to there-
port of Russia assembling a large army on the Vi!
tula, Mr. CASNINO said he believed that the Em-
peror of RUSSIA had collected an army in Poland;
but whether it was a large one or not he could nor
say. The next question put by Mr. BROUGNAW was,
as to the halt of the Austrian troops, in their march
through Italy. The Foreign Secretary stated that
the Austrian troops had wholly evacuated the Neapo-
litan and Piedraontese territories, but he was not eft--
min that they had entirely quitted the Duchy of Mik:
Mr. BROOGH Alf did not appear to consider the so-
Men of Mr. CANNING as very consolatory—dm/1h
he did not, like the Morning Chroxick, infer that,
because Russia, which has never since the peace ti-
duced her army to a peace establishment, has a few
thousand men assembled in a part of her Empire not
the most devoted to her, that they are destined fora
crusade against Spain ; nor did he assume, that be.
cause a part of the army of Austria, in evacuatiogNa•
pies and Piedmont, rested in the first proviiimaio
own Empire, it was certain that the troop wool&
employed to assist France.
Had these troops been marched to another pat
the Austrian Empire, the Chronide would havefoola
out that they were intended to attack Greece; ma
we are really surprised that the sage Quaint's, vbs
for every why has a tvherefore, did not assign otbc
...objects for these Austrian and Russian armies:
ala dread of insurrection by the German Students's
a revolt of the Poles.

But whatever objects Austria or Rossi* lail
have in view with these portions of their POW
force, and we muck doubt that there is any spec'
fic object in contemplation, we are assured 11101
an hostile interference in the affairs of France
Spain, is not intended by either of these Poway-.
We have the evidence of the documents laid befo
Parliament, that England succeeded in neutralists!
Russia, Austria, and Prqsia, so far as relates 11
Spain ; and the French Kinister at War has 001
positively declared, that Xrance has concluded 0
Treaty by which any' foreign Power should eatery
territories for any purpose whatever.
We might further ask, what new circuamstall!
have arisen to induce Austiia or Russia to aril
a contest which they refused to join in a few ises.

ago • Has there been any indication of a revolu-1
tionary movement in France? On the contrary, we
are told that one month of war has done more for the
principles of legitimacy in France than nine years of
peace, and that the simple fact of Louis XVIII. being
enabled to assemble 100,000 loyal soldiers, was a cer-
tain proof of the stability of his Throne.
If we look to Spain, we shall see that she has given
no provocations to any Power. She waited until she was
attacked; and, though she defends herself in the best
way she is able, yet certainly her exertions are not such
asto threaten any danger to either !lustt is or Russia.
The doubtful tenure by which Austria holds Italy,
nay be considered as a sufficient reason for a few
of her troops remaining stationed on the Po ; and as
Russia is not bound by any treaty to disband her
army, it k of little consequence whether she encamps
it on the banks of the Vistula or the Euxine.

The following is the must recent intelligence we
have from Paris. On account of the Feast of Ascen-
sion, Thursday was a close holiday at Paris.

PAM, WEDNESDAY EVENING, Fova o'Ccocr.

The Journal de Toulouse, a semi-ministerial Paper,
vhich has just reached Paris, contains the following :
We heat from Bayonne, that the Generals Abis
gal and Morino are on the point of re-uniting their
forces, which are supposed to amount to 40,000
tier, and offering battle to Marshal Oudinot, whilst
Ballasteins will occupy General Molitor.
A considerible materiel is preparing for tie siege
of St. Sebastian's, which fortress refuses to listen to
anything like capitulation ; and in order to cut off
all means of retreat from the garrison, all the vessels
in the port have been sent away. It is added, that
the Governor has remained inaccessible to seductions
of more than one kind. 'lire Military Intendant of
S:. Sebastian's was shot on the 13th of the last month,
for having had communications with the French."
The same Journal gives the following news from
Catalonia:

" General Donnadicu was at Puycerda on the 25th.
On the morning of the 26th, 800 men from Roma-
psa were sent to occupy Miter. Another column
is to march this evening by Belver on their way to
La Seu. The garrison of the place has been renewed.
It is not Orrea who has arrived there, but another
Chid, whose name has not reached us. Some im-
portant events must soon take place, and the fate of
Catalonia cannot much longer remain undecided.—
The stripping of the churches and the arrests con-
rnue ; nothing is left untried by the Constitutionalists
1) procure themselves money. We are assured that
Mina is still at Vich, or in the environs.
The reason that Marshal Moncey has not ad-
vanced as far as he might during the eleven days he
has been in. Catalonia is, that he is desirous of taking
Figueras before going further. General Curial, at
the head of eight thousand men, intends attacking
the Constitutional troops, whose numbers are every
dap increasing by the arrival of various Guerilla par-
ties. It is most likely that before many days we
shall have to communicate an account of some se: ious
affair, unless Mina should retire upon Barcelona."
The Echo du Midi (a fanatical paper) has the fol-
lowing, under the same date :
" The militia, who occupied Campredon, have re-
tired upon Olut, whereare assembled the Constitu-
tional troops under Mina. Two hundred men, coming
from Berga, entered Ripoil the 24th, and had orders
to be in readiness to march the nest morning towards
Olot. It is also towards this point that have been di-
rected the garrisons of Cordova, Segovia, Marrezza,
Vich, &c. These movements seem to announce the
intention of giving battle. A report is in circulation
this morning, that the Commandant of Figueras has
been killed by the troops under his command. Con-
tradictory motives are assigned fur this event,
it must be said, is still doubtful.

The intelligence from Perpignan of the Ist of
May, contains nothing of importance. The 29th ult.
General Donnadieu was at Campredon. There has
been a considerable fall of rain in the country, as also
in Catalonia. An order has been sent here for 60,060
rations for the army. The rivers are not fordable ;
it rains incessantly ; and the rations are obliged to be
sent a distance of twelve leagues in uncovered carts."

The two strongest advocates for the French Go-
vernment at the present moment are Mr. Cobbett and
the Courier. Mr. Cobbett, in the due exercise of kis
prophetic vocation (for albeit the day of the Gridiron
sacrifice is past, the man yet liveth to be a cdbjuror
to the nations) has been for months predicting how
"the brave French People" would triumph over the
dull heretics of Spain ; and the Courier makes it
Its daily task to write commentaries on the sooth-
sayings of the Long Island sage. Now that matters,
flowever, are taking the usual course of the old man's
rophecies, the spirits of the commentator begin to
kiroop; and it is thus that he announces the last very
sati.factory intelligence from Bayonne We have
received Bayonne papers, &c. The accounts they
bring arc still gloomy, and seem to be the forerunners
of unlvourablc nexus!"

Ills MAJESTY is considerably better ; yet the gout,
though not with increased pain, still continues iii the
wrist of the tight arm.
Ye,terday, the L•`arl of LIVERPOOL, transacted busi•
ness with Mr. Secretary CANNING at the Foreign Office.
fbe KING received a long visit from the Duke of
lent: yestet day.