Star.
London, England, 1822-08-01 00:00:00

THE CANADA&

Mr.. WILMOT moved the Order of the Day for the second
reading of the Canadas Government Bill.
Mr. HUbIE suggested the propriety of sending out a Coen.
mission to Canada; to inquire into the differences between the
two Colonies, in order that the House might have information
upon so important a point, before they proceeded to legislate in
the spirit of this Bill.
Mr. WILMOT said, that the principle of arbitration in this
Bill, would effect the object desired by the Hon. Member.
Mr. CALCRA FT scarcely knew whether it would be ad-
visable to send out a Commission or not, but he certainly hoped
that they should have more information on this subject, before
they proceeded to incorporate these two countries.
Mr. WILMOT said, there certainly would be information
upon this important subject.—Tbe Bill was then read a second
time, and committed, and ordered to be printed and read a third
time this day three months.
DEEDS REGISTRY BILL (IRELAND).

On the motion for the third reading of this Bill,
Sir W. DE CRESPIGNY bespoke the attention of
the House to the subject of a misrepresentation which
had gone abroad, of sentiments uttered by him, in that
House a few nights back. The Hon. Baronet then
read from a printed paper a paragraph, in which
were the following words :
" Sir William De Crespigay complained, as we understood him,
that the Irish Gentlemen did not co-operate cordially with the
people of England in their exertions for the relief of that country."
—The Hon. Baronet then observed, that he had lived
too long in Ireland and in this country not to know
that natives of that island were distinguished for their
humane and generous feelings upon all occasions,
and especially upon one which at present called for
their assistance amongst their fellow-countrymen. It
was, therefore, impessible that he ever could have
.made such an assertion as that attributed to him in
the passage he had just quoted; and that he did not
do so, he appealed to every Member who was pre-
sent on the occasion that it was attributed to him.
He appealed to the lion. Member for Cambridge, to
the Right Bon. Secretary opposite, and to the Chair
ifsalE A sentiment of-that sort, publicly propagated,
vrastalculated to do him much injury ; and. the na-,
'Will "and painfid consequence of it was to tutu the
minds of his friends in that country againithim. He
;sifillitnew that nothing could exceed the eniiety and
[eagerness of the Irish Gentlemen to do their utmost
Frei Fitogoote the charity in queition—(ltleer,
He-truited hirshoeld net be incorrect in stating what
he did say on the occasion alluded to :—He toOk.the
.liberty of saying that he 'felt.the highest satisfictioe,
and was sure every person in this country would de
tiek-samei 'opon'hearing the statement of the Honour-
able Member fort4mbridge; 4ad that• to hem. what
outtbesa dome,lSrtilis ceentereosld. DOC 414 be AG..

, day z. uay, many hou..
sides investigation of the claims of distress. • •
Mr. R. MARTIN was about to address the Clair.
The SPEAKER implored the Hon. Member to
consider whether it could be desirable to proceed any
further in such a discussion, after the manner in which
the Hon. Member had explained himself, and re-
ceived confirmation of his explanation, and when
every representation of the nature complained of,-if
true or false, was a distinct breach of privilege.
Mr.. R. MARTIN said, he had no intention of
doing what was inconsistent with order ; nor should
he have addressed the Chair at all,, but Meaning
to pursoe the same course as the Hen. Member
opposite (Colonel Trench), he could not suppose it
would be more disorderly in him than in that H -
mumble Member.
The SPEAKER thought it necessary to guard him-
self against the charge of dealing out the authority
his office in a different measure to one Hon. Menthor
than another. He had understood the Hon. Baronet
to appeal to the lion. Member opposite to him (Co-
lonel Trench). That Hon. Member had answered
his call in the most satisfactory manner to the Hon.
'Baronet, and if after that, the Hon. Member for Gal--
way (Mr. It. Martin) was to follow the same course,
it would place the Hon. Baronet in the situation of
supposing, that all those who were present on the
occasion alluded to, and who did not now speak,
could not concur in the correctness of the statement
he had made to the House. That, he apprehended, it
was not the object, of the Hon. Member 'to promote.
He assured the Hon. Member, that he was notanore
disposed to call him to order an every other Mem-
ber of the House, and he hoped he would see the dis-
tinction between himself and the Hon. Member who
lissA- spoken immediately before him, which war-
ripited his not interfering in the one case, and yet
oldled on him to do so in the other.
. Mr. R. MA RTlNdisclaimed any intention of draw-
ing any comparison of the kind alluded to by the Chair.
' warn WICK.
Mr. ABERCROMBY asked, whether the papers
he had moved for on the 29th ofJune would be pre-
sented before the close of the present Session ? He
hoped Monday next would not be alloWed to pass by
without that being done.
Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that the. Honour.
able Member knew the papers relative to Borthwick's
case, to which he presumed he alluded, had arrived,
and the Hon. Member himself bad been left to select
the papers which he thought it would be best to pre-
sent to the House first.

Mr. ABERCROMBY admitted that he had,
through the kindness of the Right Hon. Gentleman,
had access to the papers ; all that he was anxious
about was, that the papers should be presented be-
fore the Session ended.

THE LATE QUEEN.
On the motion for the third reading of the Ap-
propriation Bill,
Dr. LUSHIGTON said, that it was his duty to
make a few observations before this Bill was finally
disposed of, on the subject of an item of 12,5001. in
it, which had been granted by the House to the
estate of her late Majesty for the satisfaction of the
claims of her British creditors.. As administrator to
that estate, under the Will of her late Majesty, it
was his duty to some of her creditors to state the ,
in-
justice which was likely to be done to, them under'
the particular wording of the clause regulating the
application• of the money: The clause stated that
the ran; was made " for her late Majesty's Bi itish
credstoesfor work or service done, or for goods de-
livered for her use." He believed k was not in-
tended to operate in the way it would do, but it cer-
tainly would came great igjo Ce to.be done to two
individuals who had •advanced money to her Ma-
jesty. It would be seen thai the wording of the
clause entirely excluded theist frOm any participation
in the grant. Under these circumstances he would
impart-to the House the situation of her Majesty's
affairs at the time of her decease. It was now pro-.,
yosed to give only 12,5001. to the estate, although in'
equity a portion of that sum was due at the time of
her demise, for the part of the current quarter which
tad then run. If, theiefore, it was regarded as an
act of bounty, it was at least lessened by this.—
The Honourable Gcntleman then proceeded to detail
the circumstances coooecred with her late Mai
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dinary means
;aryls tie? eta'._ .se s,
to tl'e creditors, and not from it wish to-rekrire past
disciasion- on 'a subject which he nerer-spoke.cif :14
erith paist. 'lt certainly was, 'unexpected, lookittelt
the wayinwhieh Queens were generally treated;thsit
her Majetty should not be furribbed, fretrOfeipelluel
withtequipage,plare, and. ekety- other rtigaliiier2llol
Ntalettli 11oC eStpotiing-•tlieve &citation-3 *veld IA
made, .naturally contracted debts, which, upon her
premature death, she did not leave erlcts to satisfy.
Attlit Freitag moment the amount of her Mtestyl
debt tiv'ir etcertitinoci Ur be about 44,V0L, Of 'MIS
sum the foreign claim a nounted to between 9,000 t
."and 10,0001. which was principally due to a house
atitome for advances made to her Majesty'. The
English claims therefpre remained at about 34,0004
He begged, however, to observe, that he did not a&
snit the full amount of this to be just debts—he
thought some of the claims might be lessened. Her
late Majesty's assets amounted to 16,5601. which;
added to the present grant, gave 29,0001.• to meet
debts to the amount of 44,0001 It was true, but
34,0001. was the English part of it, and thiLgrant
was to cover that part only. Deductions from the
amount of the assets, however, were still to be made
on account of the expense of the sale of the effects,
and the Excise duty, which it was thought fit Os
exact. Thus a considerable portion of debt must re-
main unpaid, and if the grant had been made to
satisfy the British creditors generally, it would yield
about seven shillings in the pound. As it was, the
claims to be paid by it would be in full, but there
.would remain bona fide creditors, who could get
nothing. The foreign property at one period was
worth fully thirty thousand pounds, but during the-
absence of the Queen from Italy ,- in this country a
great part of the valuable removable' property was
taken away. He (Dr. Lushington) having his doubts
of Italian honesty, on the night of the-Queen's death
actually sent some one to Italy to take care of the
property ; but, notwithstanding the precaution taken,
the result was, as he had stated. If the Italian cre-
ditors would content themselves with the Italian pro-
petty, he would he satisfied ; but unfortunately they
looked to him, and had the-same claim upon him,
as executor, totally independent of the Italian pro.-
petty. He thought some property might possibly be
realized in Italy. He should take such steps as the
laws of that country permitted ; but still his situa-
tion was a very unfortunate one. He was particu-
larly anxious that the House should be satisfied that
no blame was due to the late Queen for extrava-
gance. Those .who had opportunities of judging,
could bear testimony to. the order, regularity, and
economy which prevailed in her Majesty's family.—
He hoped the House would not forget her Majesty's
conduct in 1814, . when she voluntarily relinquished
15,0001. a year of the grant made to her by Parlia-
,ment, and act with similar liberality towards the
bona fide creditors she had left behind. In his opi-
nion it would scarcely be consistent with the honour
of the country, or with justice, to refuse, for such a
purpose, a sum not exceeding one year's saving.• • 'lt
was drorth that to save the disgrace of the Queen's
having died in debt. The claims were honest, con-
tracted under circumstances that rendered them im-
peratively necessary, and the means of the late Queen
were quite incompetent to discharge them. He hoped
the House would remember the generosity of the-
late Queen, and when she was gone and no more, and
it was the desire of all good men to bury the past in
oblivion, it would be honest and just, and in unison
with all the feelings of the nation to settle the affairs
of the Queen in the best way. It was his duty to
make these statements to the House, which -he did
reluctantly. He hoped they would have due weight
with his Majesty's Government. He trusted the
Chancellor of the Exchequer would give him coedit
for doing his best to administer the elects of herlate
Majesty with the- utmost economy ; for he assured
him he was most anxious to save every shilling-tathe
nation if possible. He could not but think that the
Noble Marquis, whose feelings were atwayaronsistent
with propriety. upon similar oceations, would be dis-
posed to concur in the view he had taken of the case.
Mr. LUSHINGTON regretted that his Hon. Rela-
tive had not taken the -.-opportunity of mating the
statements he had just concluded in the Committee
'on this Bill. He understood it was with the concur-
rence of several Hon. Met-fibers on the other side of
'the House that the clause was worded in the way
which appeared 'objectionable to his Hon. Relative;
and it was done for the express purpose of limiting
the application of the Grant to the British Creditors
of her late Majesty. He believed if it had not been
so framed, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman would
have been unable to pay one British Creditor until
all the foreign assets were collected. With regard to
the foreign claimants be must do the best he could.
The question with the House has been, whether the
Queen's tradesmen should-be paid.or not? and a Pe-
**ion halfbeen -presented to them, that if the
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nstauces connected with her late Majesty's tition hartbeest iptesented tti them, stating, that if the • '
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be in. the recollection- of the House, that:\ A1110:-0'llfe foreign clsrintants, and the Petitioners
fajesty's artival, it was notified that sate 111 e ,1M likt • botliiirg.- Many Mon. GentleMea oppo- .1
lucre money. I,lis ltajesty:s..esnieriment' bewlNVlii noose at thetimc,ospresaed their sense,of $
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