Star.
London, England, 1807-02-13 00:00:00

CHIPPENHAM KLiCTION._

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The following were the Members appointed by ballot to decide
the merits of this petition :
Nicholfon Calrert,Efq. joleph H. Strutt, Efq.
William Fitzhugh, Efq. Hon. T. Bernard.
Walter Fawkes, Efq. Francis Pymm, Efq.
Hon. E. Spencer Cowper Snowden Barne. Efq.
Right Hon. Lord Mahon William Mills, Efq.
A. H. Eyre, Efq. H. Meade Ogle, Efq.
William Odell, Efq.
Right Hon. Lord Mariham, and Sir T. Turton, Bars. Nominees.

FINANCI.

Lord CASTLEREAGH began by Rating, that
perhaps in the whole cootie of his Parliamentary ext.
perience there bad never occurred an melon in which
he rote with fo much diffidence and diltrua of him-
felf as in the prefent ioßance. There were many
views which the Noble Lord had taken of the Fi-
nancial fituation of the Country. in which he entirely
concurred with him. In the fira place, as to the ,
Sinking Fund, he allowed that it was perfealy open
for the difcullion of Parliament to determine to what
national purpofe it timid he applied, after it had ar-
rived at thole limits that might be fuppofed fufficient
for the purpofe for which it was originally appointed
—the reduaiun of the National Debt. He'perfealy
agreed with the Noble Lord, that the unlimited ac-
cumulation of the Sinking Fond would be a preju-
dice to the nation, inftead of being a national bene.fit.
He admitted that Parliament mutt at fume period or
other be called upon to exercife its judgment as to
what national purpofes this increafe thould be appii
ed. This would be at alt times a very delicate fuls•
jai of dilcuflion, but more particularly in during a
period of war. If he defended generally the old
fyftem of railing taxes to cover the inhere ft of every
new loan, he did not mean to pufh that objet ion to
an extreme, and fay th tt the general preffitre of the
country, or what would remain upon our pollerity,
or the nature and general operations of the war,
'might not make it neceflary, in fume refpeas, to der
viate from the old fyftem, which he confidered as by
much the belt. When the time fhould arrive that
the Sinking Fund exceeded the annual loan, that ex-
cefs would create a fund which would be difpofeable
for any purpofes for which it might be required.—
He fhould cettainly conceive- himfeif bound upon all
principles of public duty. to agree to the plan of the
Noble Lord, if his oblations to it were but flight ;
but in the light he viewed it, they appeared to him
radical and fundamental. He did not much difapprove
of the general principles which had been laid down by
the Noble Lord as the foundation cfbis fcheme, but he
highly difapptoved of and deprecated that itinerante
ture which he had elated upon that foundation. He
thought the Noble Lord was tight in his general rea-
forting, to take a very extended view of the finances
of the country, and of its means for a period of
twenty years. Every one mull fee that in the pre-
fent (tare of Europe, the war might be long, and al-
ni.oft indefinite in its duration. Is was, therefore,
necelrary to calculate and confider what means the
country is poffelfed of to enable her to maintain the
war as long as the ambition of her enemies might'
re,:alar it nezeffary. In this point of view he was
glad the Noble Lord .had taken Bich alt extenfive
view of the probable expendunre of the cotiotry, if
the war fhould even ha for the period of twenty
years. Although he approved.of .this as a general
ttatement, yet he could not approve of the Noble
Lord having thought' it expedient and right to em-
body in a legiflative meafttre brought forward in the
prefent year, the t::pet.c,es which .be fuppofed would
attend the war in future years. However beautiful
the Noble Lord's fy Item might appear upon the fir(t
flatement of it; and whatever hopes, it ,might bold
out to the country, the .probability was, that the
H ure would be carted m future years to the em-
baitafrnient and mortification of departing from it,
and reverting manyitalts !of He approved of
the *rile Lord% taking an extended view of the
follta,:•but this extended view fhould have been
merely a prudential view, and by no means a legif-
lative one. -. He did not find. fault with the Noble
;Lend for laying down general priticiples as the filed

data on which to found his plan, for unlefs there were
Tome fixed data laid down. it was impoffible to reafon
upon the fubjed ; but he objected to the data which
were laid down, and which he confidered as entirely
fallacious. The Noble Lord had pledged himfelf to
find re:ln:tees to cover the intereft of the loans which
might be neceffary, without impofingfrelh taxes. He
began by affuming that the annual expenditure would
be thirty-eight millions, although the grofs expendi-
ture of the laft year had been forty-one millions. In
order to Rate the expenditure fo low, he was obliged
to cledna every thing that came under the head of
occafronal payment. If, then, it thould be found
that the annual expences of the country had.been
under-rated by him in his calculation, this firtt error
would produce a univerfal difappointment, equal to
the hopes which had been held out to the country.
Even fuppofing that the expences of the country did
not exceed thirty-eight millions annually, even then
the fyitein which the Noble Lord had brought for-
ward would produce a great and rinneceffary expense.
He did not now with, nor did he think it a proper
time to go into minute details, which would more
properly be brought forward in a Committee : it
was his with at prefent to dote with the Noble Lord
on the data and the prisleiples which he bimfelf had
laid down. He confidered generally, that the ex-
pence of this new fyftem would involve the country
in great embarraffment, if not in total ruin ; and
that ruin was altogether gratuitous and unneceffary.
In the examination of the probable operation of the
plan pro poled for the confederation of Parliament,
he &wild with to keep as dillind as poffible thefe
two queflions : firtt, the ufe to be made of the Sink-
ing Fund ; and fecondly, the debt which would ac-
cumulate in the period of twenty years. As to the
firft point he confidered, that the Sinking Fund Welt
after the year 1816. would form a friffictent fund to
provide for the intereft of any loans which might be
then wanted. It would then amount to tt, tBopool.
annually, which would afford a quantum of ways and
means upon which any other fyttem could be built.
lit was a refource that was completely as open as that
of Supplemental Loan., which the Noble Lord had
reforted to. There was another very marked and
material diftinetion between the prefent fyflem and
that which had formerly been purfued. The War
Taxes appeared to be fuppofed as really applicable to
the intereft of thofe War Loans, whereas, when they
were firft impofed, it was underftood that it was pro-
mired that they fhould not be continued after the war.
This fyltem of war loans, and of fupplemental loans,
to pay the intereft of other loans, was certainly a
fyftem which, if carried into private life, mutt
lead the individual who adopted it to utter ruin;
and if Minifters fhould introduce a fyfiem of bor-
rowing for the country, poffeffing the fame quality,
and work up fuch unjuft and flagitious materials
into their fyflem of finance, it was likely to pro-
duce the fame circa:, applied to a nation, as it
would do if applied to an individual. He agreed
with the Noble Lord, that the country poireffed the
means of maintaining the war for twenty years, if
neceffary, and it was a proud circumftance for the
country, that the only queftion was how thefe means
could be brought forward in the belt manner ? As
to the manner, however, in which they might belt
be brought forward, he differed materially from the
Noble Lord. The Noble Lord wifhed at prefent to
raife fupplementary loans, in addition to the annual
loans of twelve millions. If he would compare the
effeOs of railing thofe double loans with the effedt
that would be produced by railing in one tingle loan
the money he wanted, fecured on the Confolidated
Fund, he would find that the latter mode would be
every way better and let's expenfive. He thould enter
into this comparifon on many different grounds. In
the firtt place, he fhould confider the quantity of ca-
pital that in the courfe of the twenty years would be
borrowed and created by the operation of thofedif-
ferent fy Items. If the Noble Lord confidered that a
war expenditure of thirty-two millions annually was
fufficient, as the War Taxes now produced twenty-
one millions, upon the old fyftem there would be
only wanting a loan of el,even millions. Such a loan
could have been eafilv provided for without adding
materially to the preffure of the country ; but •if for
fucceeding years of war no more than eleven millions
of loan were required, the time would loon arrive
when the excefs of the Sinking Fund would amply
ftipply the intereft of future loans. The intereft of
this lien of eleven millions would be only 733,0001.
At the end of foutneen years, under the preant
tern, the War Taxes would be completely abforbed,
whereas under the obifyitern, without abforbing the
War Taxes, the fame etre& might be produced.—
But when the period thould arrive that theWarTaxes
were entirely Aforbed in paying the intereft of thole
War Loans and Supplemental Loans,- then the
country would .be -reduced to the greateft ember-
raffment ; for then it 'would be neceffary t 6 Taife the'
whole furn of thirty-two tnillions in the year by loan.;
and this would be an operation that woyid be likely
to ruin the money fyllem of the country as completely
as even the accumulation of the Sinking Fund beyond
its proper liniits. One of the greateft (Ideas that he
taw in the fyllem propored was,. Ow it required the
creation of a much larger debt to extricate ,ttfelf. He
Mould next proceed to a teinparative Itatement of
the debts that would be created by the different fvF
tems, as conipareg with, the increafe of the Sinking
Fund. He wocad readily allow that an increafe of
debt might be counteracted, by a proportionate irt-1
create of the Sinking Fund, but; under the fyttern now
propofed, there would not be g correfponding increafe
of the sinking .Fund. Had we burrowed eleven mil•
lions in the ufual manner,.thcre would clearly have
been an increafe of the Sinking Fund proportioned to
the increafe of the debt. &planting the loans had
been mired direttly in the proportion of the fonts
calculated anneceffary at the different periods of. the
war, it would in twenty years have only amounted
to slo millions, if the money bad been railed in, the
ordinary way, whereas it would amount to no Ws
than 455 mullions in the mode that was now propefed;
and altnough the debt was by this new fyftem in.
created to the amount of 183 millions in twenty
years, yet the Sinking Fund, fo f.r from increafinß,
would fuffer a decrease of 644,0001. annually at the
expiration of that period. Under the former fyflem
it would have then borne to the debt the prnporti,m
of a tenth, setae, ens, under the 1) ftem now preputed,
it would be only a ferrenteenth. The Sinking Fund,
under Ithe 'former fyftem, was to be fauna perpetu-
ally accumulating, until it had extingtrithed the debt;
but under the prefent fylicm, after the year Ow,

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when it bad arrived to the maximum to which it amulet
be allowed to arrive at, it would be a fund perpetu-
ally decreafing. He, therefore, confidercd that the
plan had fo many ra-aical defects as not to promife
any good ; but, on the contrary, to carry with it the
incipient principles of our national ruin. He fhould
nest confider the annual charge that this new fyflem
would entail on the nation, as compared with what
it would have been fobjea to under the old fyttem.
The annual loans of eleven millions would have to
quired an intereft of 733,0001. but when the
Sinking
Fond created with every loan, the total of annual
charge that would have been additionally laid on the
country for the next twenty years would have been
14,660,0001. Now, the interelt of thole Supplemen-
tal Loans only would, in the fame period, amount
to i 4,266,00l. it therefore •ppeared that thole
Supplemental Loans (independent of the War
Loans) would lay almost as great an annual burden
on the country, as the whole of the Loans would, if
levied direftly, and according to the old fyflem.--
This, however, was only one branch of the new 101
ton. for at the fame time that thofe Supplemental
Loans entailed fo great an expence on the country,
the other branch of the fyftem, the annual War
Loans, would have completely abforbed the whole of
the War Taxes. As a principal argument in favour
of the adoption of the new (yam, the Noble Lord
urged the advantage of relieving the country from
the prefent preffure of its taxes. If it were poffible
to obtain that relief without injuring the permanent
relources of the country, or without doing any injuf-
tice to the ftockholders, who had lent their money on
the idea that the fyflem would be 11i11 continued of
railing taxes to cover the intereft of each fucceeding
loan, every one mutt be pleafed at the country being
fo relieved. If, however, it appeared that this mode
would injure the permanent relources of the country,
or that a method could be pointed out whereby all
the effects which the Noble Lord had hoped from
his plan, could be obtained without any fevete
preffure of new loans, or without making perma-
nent thole taxes which were tailed only during
the continuance of the war, he hoped that the
Houle and the Noble Lord himfelf would confider
fuch fuggeftions as worthy their molt ferious
deration, and would not confider themfelves pledged
to the adoption of a fyftem which appeared likely to
produce ruinous canfecluences to the country. He did
not objeCt fo much to the general principles laid down
by the Noble Lord, as to the particularmode which
he had pointed out for carrying them into execution:
brit his objeltions to this mode were fo ftrong and fo
radical, that he fhould feel himfelf wanting in his du-
ty if he hid not limed them. He trutted that it
would appear to the Noble Lord himfelf, that the
mode of borrowing by double loans was much more
expenfive than the fyftetn of borrowing by one tingle
loan. The whole fcheme of the Noble Lord went
to defray the calculated expences of the war for 20
years, hut the country had refources enough to carry
on the war far nineteen years, according to the 'old
fyflem of railing Loans, And without mortgaging
the War Taxes. What he should decidedly prefer to
the prefent fyflem, would be the railing the eleven
millions annually, chargeable in the firft place on the
Confolidated Fund, and afterwards on the Sinking
Fund, when the amount of it should exceed thole
limits, which it was generally allowed that it would
not be advantageous to the nation that it fhould pals.
This fyflem of tupplementalLbans, although it was
to come gently at fit ft; would loon be of enormoas
magnitude. This little Gexikman, on its firft introduc
lion to the world, was but fmall, fir fmall that no
ferious injury could be apprehended from him—he
amounted only to loomoo annually. But when he
fhould gain a few years ftrength, when he Ihould
arrive at fourteen years of age, he would bring an
expence of more than fourteen millions. This fupple-
mental Loan was in finance whatit would be in an
individual to go to Jews and ufurers to mile mo-
ney upon any toms to pay the intereft of a debt.—
Initead of thole fupplemental Loans, he thould there-
fore propofe that whatever fum was wanting, with its
natal.' Sinking Fund, fhould be borrowed in the re-
gular way, in one tingle loan, chargeable immediate-
ly on the Confolidated Fund, and ultimately on the
excels of the Sinking Fund. With relpeft to the Sinking
Fund,••there was another great quettion open to the
confidetatiou Parliament, whether, when the time
came that-it exceeded the loan for the year, it might
not be fulpended in its farther operation during the
petiod of war, and allowed to regain all its aflivity
and energy as loon as peace fhould arrive. By this
means-refources would be always found' in war, and
yet the Sinking Fand mightgonn regularly,although
with Tome interruption.; to the defirnelion of 'the na-
tion* dot. It was univerfally allowed that it would
nut be clearable that the national-debt fhould be Cud.
denly and all at once extinguithed,and it would be then
a filbjeft of • ferious confederation,- Whether the pro.
grcfs of the Sinking Fund would not .he fufficiently
rapid, even with the delays thalwar would Occafion.
Now amount of the annual Sinking Fund
was B,sts,oool. and by the Noble Lord's-ltarement,
and, in. -pt•oiteding upon the old plan.' it wouli
appear that, ttic produce of. that fund in 18 it, would
be 11,14.0,600 - which would exceed the-amount of
all the addititinal taxes which he would propofe for
the next twelve years, if the prefent &Elm ccatinued
to be aa:dAtpoli ; ancliif it' Was continued but f.l
four yeati longer, it would enable the Noble Lard to
put an end -to.the fyflem-of -War Taut; and to carry
on•the current .expences of each year by the Allthil
fyitem of lames. . ,HeLeould -not accede to the necef.
thy of taxing pofterity for prefent-oecafions, 'when
every nectilary:purrife might be accomplifhed with.
out it.; for by paly folloWing the fifteen-already in
operation, the Minifter would, in a very {hors period,
be enabled to tell the enemyt; " Youfee I can carry on
war without. contrating additional debt, fa long as
your ambition 4,r malice may compel. me to contiii4
the confliar It would enable the Noble Lord to fay,
". I can comman I 21 millions of War Taxes, and
I remit the property tax to the people ; and if I am
compelled t a it by war, I can again refume that tax."
Why, therefote, &mild the Houle content to abandon
a fy item
.which had been tried'; and found effeautl,
and which, aided bribe war taxes already adopted
by the Noble Lord,.had placed this country in that
proud lit:motion which, in a few years, would enable
her tat remit the war taxes All, therefore, that he
had.to do, was to contraft a loan for four years, and
apply tha furplus produce of the Sinking Fund, to
def:ay the intereft accruing thereon. 'The Noble Lore-

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proceeM to take a view Of the new fyllem, as it was
to °pet ate for the next twenty years, and contended
that however clear the theory and (peculation might
appear upon paper, yet it would not only be imprac-
ticable, but impoffible to purfue, and at all events
Parliament Mould not legiflate upon it. He noticed.
that the Noble Lord took up two grounds, whereon
he built his (inseam. The one was, fuppoling the
price of Stocks in the money market at 60, and the
expenditure with all it, deduetions at 38,000,0001.
Thefe, he argued, were very fallacious data ; for fup.
1 pole a Minifter had reafoned of) a fimilar theory,and ia
the fame way, when the expenditure was all millions,
how would he find bimfelf mißaken pow. when, is
the (pace of a Mort war, they had rifen to millions ?
Or was he to omit all external connedions, and for
ever to forego the aid of Allies, to keep alive his new
theory ? He should, however, fo conduit hi: meafures
with the nations of Europe, as to prevent the Country
from beitig ifolated, or being confidered
" Penitus toto dirtfos tube Britanoos."
From thence the Noble Lord proceeded to take a
view of the old fyllem, as followed by all former Mi.
nitlers, and, comparing it with the new, contended
that it was fimpler, fain., and fuperior. He infißed
that the mode of railing loans on the furplua of the
Sinking Fund was fallacious and dangerous, and that
in the coo rfe of twenty years the lots on that Otte%
would be no lefs than 29,000,0001. with the annexed
fyllem of double I-ans. He arranged his arguments
on this matter under five general heads, and occu-
pied a confiderable time of the Houfe with great
perfpicuity, endeavouring to convince the Houle of
the verity of his reafonings. In faEt, he was of oil.
ninn that the total increafe of public debt would be,
at the end of twenty years, no lefs than 196,000,0001.
and that by the old fyllem, taking the Rate of the
Sinking Fund at the uftial progreflive calculated data
, hitherto purfued, there would be a decreafe or ex-
-1 Cation of debt to the amount of 93,000,0001. is
twenty years, whilti by the new fyllem the increafe
of debt would be 90,544,,0001. fo that the total
. amount of difference between the old and the new
fy Item would be the enormous fum of 183,54{,0001.
Thefe points the Noble Lord nrged with confiderable
zeal, and argued, that if we lhould unfortunately be
. (addled with the theoretic fpeculatiOns contained in
1 the tables, fubmitted to the confideratitin of the
Houle, we thould experience fallacy, diTappoint-
-1 ment, and ruin. His Lordthip then concluded with
i moving the following. Refolution, premifum his with
1 that the debate upon it thould, for that night, be ad-
, journed. _ _ _

That it is propofed by the new Plan of ranee, that the An-
nual Exceffes of the prefent Sinking Fund, above the latereit of
the Debt charged upon it, in every given year, thould be declared
to be at tho difpufal of Pattiansent, and applicable to the Public
Service. And it appears that the aggregate Produce of the bid
Exceffes, between the years 1816 and tits 6, will meant in the
whole to Eleven Millions One Hundred and Twenty-we Thou-
land Nine Hundred and Thirty-eight Pounds.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
did not think it necessary, in the prefent inftance; to
trouble the Houfe with more than a very few words,
however he might differ with many principleS laid
down by the Noble Lord, and however he might be
difpofed to refill any attempts to argue from Amp.
Lions in'themfelves• queftionable, he was yet willing
to give his frank teftimony to the clear and pert-plc&
ens, manner to which the Noble Lord had laid dowa
thole principles; and argued from these affomptions:
it was to prevent any mifcoiaftruaion abroad, to'pre-
vent the public from being led into mit-conceptions*
to the riseafut es 'of finance he ihould have the'
ho-
nour to propofe, by certain ftatements of the Noble
Lord, fo much mare plaufible than convincing: 'As
the molt conciie method of anfwering thofe fiat&
mints, he limpid refer at once to what had fallen frOm
him on a brnier night opt:4n that fullfa. lie had
fpoken of the policy oflooking prolpeatvely to future
contingencies, and though the Noble Lord admits of
the expediency of looking forward and calculating
upon the conjectural cafualties of future viciffitudes in
the formation of a great financial Icheme, yet ths
broad ground of the Nohle.Lord's objections to his
(Lord Henry Petty's) Plan has been, the cenfurable
pripciple of legiflating for the future. He'was charged
with a prefumption he difehimea ; he did not pledge
himfelf to provide for all changes that might here-
after occur—it was not within his feeble power, nor
that of wirer men; to cakulato upon events anise/ere
in the hands of Novi:mace, and' in the hand's of
Paosoinzac I alone. He hod already mentioned the
two diftina heads, upon which alone he Could hazard
any calculation, as to a prorifion againft changes=
one was under the head of Foreign Sublidies, and
the other under that of the Increafe of the Price Of
Labour, and any increase in the expenditure under
the article Stores—and such he had propofed Ihould
be, in Come degree, provided for by the Supplemen
tary Loan. As to the failure of duties, Parliathent
was to pledge itself to keep up thole duties. As to
the criteria, of his Eftimates, he could not fix upon
one More certain than that which he had fixed
upon to form such criteria, namely, the grilling ex-
penditure, and he left it confidently to the Noble
Lord, to find, if he could, a criteria fo fatisfaaory.
The Noble Lord had complained that there had not
hcen fuffieient provifton and forefight in legiOating
upon the Subfidy Contingencies, and yet the great
pfinciple of the Noble Lord's (Nation was, that of
future legiflation. As to the Sinking Fund, he had
Rated that it was i t the prefent period beneficial, and
might be continued to be fo hereafter, by equalizing
that Fund that to he added to now in the fame pro-
portion that it was to he taken from hereafter, where4s
the Noble Lord would take from it now and add no-
thing to it hereafter, thus taking advantage of the be•
nefict4 effect of the Fund, and leaving out all confi-
deratian of the operating cause. Upon the whole he
should beasolt anxious to enter into a fuller fiatenout
of what he conceived to be the merits of the preen(
plan,,and • into a more ample refistatien of theobjet-
'ions that had been urged againfl it ;it was not then the
opportunity to do fo ; but he trolled as the fubjeand
already, been deferred from left Wednefday to next
Monday, that it was upon that • day to be brought
under she difeuffion •of the Houfe, when be fhonld
then, as he ,had upoh that evening, rteeeive with
chearfulnefs and gratitude every fuggeftion that the
Noble Lord, or his friends,' may think calculated to
remedy any fuppofed errors, (apply any real de•
feat, or 'ail the operation of any of thole good qua"
lities that he flattered himfelf were to be found in the
Plan he had the honour to bring forward. T 0 others
he left the falfe !home that fhiunk from the deteaion
of ignorance.' It should be his pride to receive with
becoming gratitude the fanned information upon a
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of (nth moment, net when he (hall have met
Ai it will he be inclined to think himfelf left un•
worth; for acceding to the fnperiority that gave it,
the folositGon it necefarily exaaed.
Mr. ROSS dii not to Wl:lpda upon the attention of the
souk, by going into the fubjedt. He fhould referve his obferva.
:tios, for a future opportunity : for the prefent he should only fay,
thatk differed from both the Noble Lords on Cenral points.
.be queftisa was then put upon the Grit Rdolution, and the
obitesiljourned to Mondat nernAdlosirned.

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13.

ppjcl Of STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK :
coeds, for money, 641.-4 r account 64 63-.onaniunt 71.
Ezeltequer Bills. par to ca. dif. ..

PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY.
Bank Stab )194 hive:Jai 3 per C. 6if
3 Fat. Red. Ann. 6af 63151 Ditto Annuities 7 is.zEths 8
3 per C. Coaf.6ai 64 India Stock :84
4 per Ca.' SCi Si Ditto Bonds, 0. prem.
$ per Can. Nail, 94 961 Each. Bills, par as. ell
Long Aniu 17 13-1 Conies for acc. 64 63 64

GENERAL CRAWFURD'S EXPEDITION.

IGovernment yetlerday received difpatches from
Brigadier General CILAWTVID and Commodore
firoeyolo, brought by the Ganges man of war,
which arrived at Portfmouth on Wednefday, in corn-
' /any with the Captain of the fame force. The con-
tents of there difpatches have not yet tranfpired, but,
in addition to the gratifying intelligence we yeller-
day arelufrvely laid before the Public from the Arma-
tnent under the orders of General CILAUTU&D, the
kindnefs of two other Correfpondents enables us to
Bate thole farthes particulars.
There is unavoidably a little fimilarity in the com-
munication of yefterday and one of thofe received to.
day ; but the lively intereli taken by our countrymen
in every thing which concerns thofe gallant heroes,
who have gone forth to fight the battles of their
country, renders any apology for the apparent repe-
tition of our details almoll unneceffery.
The following are the additional letters alluded to,
and we have no doubt we (ball be able to gratify our
Readers, from time to time, with authentic intelli-
gence of the operations of the above armament from
the fame accurate and intelligent fources :
PRIVATE LETTER.
The fleet compofing this Erpedition failed in the
evening of the I 2th November, from Falmouth, under
convoy of the following fhips of war, viz.
nips Gans Commanders
74 Ilion Captain STorroan, Coss-
Spencer . modore
Thcfeus - 74 Hon. Capt. Hors
Captain - 74 Capt. Commas/
Ganges - 74 Capt. HA LKRTT
Nereide (frigate) 36 Coast r
Paulina (floop) IS Luur.sv
. Haughty (brig) 16 Lieut.lVlsreuats. ;
Together with two armed (choosier§ the Ant and Jackdaw.
• We formerly mentioned that the 9th Light Dra-
goons failed with the above convoy, under the com-
mand of the Hon. Colonel MAMOIS, but that they do
not form a part of the troops under the command of
Brigadier General Caaw EURO. His force confifts of
the following battalions and detkchments, vi z.—
Corps. Strength. Commanders.
Royal Artillery s Companies Capt. Hawaii
ith Foot aft Batt. ..—.... Lt.Col.Davia
36th Foot Ditto .—......•-• BURN!
4Sth Ditto Ditto ...—.- ........ GUARD
88th Ditto Ditto ......... -- Durr
95th Ditto,orrillecorps Ditto, 5 companies Major M•Lion.
6th Dragoon Guards, 4 troops, .-- Lt.CoI.RINOTOII

Together with a propordon of the Corps of Royal Engineers,
Hark Artillery Drivers, and of the Royal Artificers.
The fleet, which conned of forty-fix fail in all,
had the misfortune of meeting very unfavourable
winds for a fortnight, and had to encounter a goad
deal of ftormy weather. They did not arrive off the
ilia of Madeira until the morning of the sth De-
cember. On the preceding night the Commodore fent
in the Paulina gun brig, two fchooners, and two of
the ftorefisips, for the purpofe of obtaining wine for
the fleet. After lying off the ifland the greater part
of the next day for thefe veffels, the Commodore failed
without them, and on the morning of the 7th the fleet
were off the ifland of Palma. They lay to within a
few leagues of the Weftern end of the ifland, and in
about twohours the Naas Ins frigate, which had parted
company coon after leaving Falmouth, joined the
Seer. Since leaving the fleet fhe had fallen in with,
and taken off Madeira a Spanifh privateer and a
merchant fhip, with provifions, &c. The former,
being difmantled, was given up to the prifoners, who
were allowed to depart; the latter was taken poffeffion
of, and ordered to join the fleet. On the 14th, after
a paffage of thirty-two days, the fleet came to anchor
in Porto Praya Bay, St. Jago, the Commodore falut-
Tog the Portuguefe fort with thirteen guns, which
were returned. On the following day the Brigadier
General and Commodore landed, under a falute from
the fort. From the timely and judicicus precaution
of the General, previous to the landing of any part
Of the fleet, they were enabled to procure an ample
apply of meat, fruit, and vegetables, &c. at a fixed
market rate, with more regularity than could have
been expelled, without tech a prudent and timely ar-
rangement with the Governor of the ifland.
While the fleet were thus procuring refreflnents,
the men of war and tranfports completed their wa-
tering in little more than a week. Great praife is due
to Commodore STorroars, for his exertions in putting
every (hip in teadinefs for tea as loon as poffible, as
well as for his unremitting attention to the (hips of
the fleet during the whole of the patTage. It is owing
to this caufe that not a tingle (hip was loft on the

voyage, notwitheanding the badnefs of the weatherd
and the extreme darknefs and fogginefs of the nights'
at that unfavourable feafon of the year.

The gth Light Dragoons accompanied the fleet to
St. Jago, commanded by the Hon. Colonel Maims.
—They left the fleet there on the sth January, and
failed for Buenos Ayres, together with feveral mer-
chant flsips, under convoy of the Nils tok frigate.
The SrEncsa, Tuzsaus, and PAuLINA, with the
fleet, were expected to proceed on the expedition on
the 12th of January, after having in vain waited for
Admiral MUltlllY for a month.