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London, England, 1804-03-03 00:00:00

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Mr. GREY role and bid, he had a queflion to elk
of his isidates Minikes, which he &cold have put
previopts to the action for the,Canivaittes.bed he (up.
poled the ditcuffion upon it would have extended to
fuels a length. It watt a queftion equally affeaing
the Public. the Sovereign, and the Houfe, and the
fen& he entertaiged of his duty would not allow him
to abflain one moment from poftpming it. An ex-
planation had been given in another hoof., in anfwer
to a queftion refpeAing the Rate of his Majefty's
health, which, though it might appear, on the 6rft
thew, calculated to give fatisfaetion to the Public,
bad, fo far from producing that fatisfaltion, rather
iftereafed the anxiety sad doubt the Public naturally
bad upon fo Yawning a fabjed. What he therefore
rote for was, to ant of the Right Hon. Gentleman.
whether the words he bad ufed in this Houfe, upon
a former oceafton, in order to prevent any ambiguity
or mifunderftanding, and, if pollible, convey to the
Houle that fatisfabon as to the Rate of his Majefly's
health, which it could not but be the wills of every
Hon. Gentleman and every loyal fubjea to obtain.
--The words which he uuderflood the Right Hon.
Gentleman had ufed were, that there was no' now
any neceffary fufpenflon of the perfonal exereife of
the Royal Authority." He waited to underiland
whether, in making that declaration. the Right Hon.
Gentleman meant to Rate that the perfonal esercife
of the Royal Authority was completes!—( /bar, leer
esciaiimed many of the Mewsina.) And further, to pre-
vent ambiguity and mifunderßanding, he wilted to
know whaler it was to be uncterftood that the Houfe
was to take him as pledged to this ettneruaion of the
words, 41 that his Majelly was not prevented by in-
elifpofition from attending to bonnets; and that the
public affairs would not, in the event of any emer-
gency, be neceffarily furpended." Tbefe were the
words he had now thought proper to adopt, in order
to avoid any mitunder (landing. He hoped the Right
Hon. Gentleman would give the explanation requir.
ed of him; and he alto trolled he would Rate, whe.
ther what he had afferted refted on his own know-
ledge, derived from his perfonal aced& to his Majefly,
in the cherafter he held as his confidential (errant, or
whether on the information of all his phyliciansf? He
had put thefe quetlions in cxpet9ation of that anfwer
an anxious and faithful people were delimits of, and
of that explanation it was his duty. as a Member of
the Houle, to demand. His objcA was, that the
1-lonfe of Commons might know, whether they were
continuing to tranfaCt public bufinefs in a way con-
fident with their duty to the people, or whether they
were by the curare of their legiflative functions, vio-
lating the principles of the conititution ? He trolled
the anfwer he ilionld receive would be explicit and
Complete. No one would rejoice more than himfelf
if it fhould prove fo; at prefent he fhould do nothing
farther to interrupt the progrefs of the buGoo“.
which yefterday Rood as the order of the day ; but
if the anfwer was not fatisfaeory and complete, there
would be a farther duty for the Houk to perform,
which could not be delayed beyond a very new days.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re•
'Vied in nearly the following terms: As to the
sitellion which the Honourable Member has now
put to me, I have to fay, that there can be no diffe•
vence of opinion fo far as it is a queftion connected
with all the feelings and ftntiments peculiar to a loyal
and A ffeCtionate people. On a former evening,
my defire was to declare, and that too in as explicit
terms as pelliblc. all the information in my priftel
lion, refperging the health of the Sovereign, derived
from every pwlibk informatien which I could bring
together on the fubjeel. 1 then tlated, what I now
beg leave to repeat, and to which I wilt the Hon.
GLutlernan to refer. What I then Rated was not
founded un light grounds, and I have difcovered no
grounds to induce me to think that my opinions
were erroneous. I have only to add, that I have sat
h fterf.nal actef: 11 llu Majyry. isl that a Idler area-
non la: brew Ifirded me, where*+ Ifamed ay itt not,
sr.:Ja tl: 1-atiitunts of all :helm* Psiz.issi at-
kada:c Ili, 111:0:11y."
Mr. GRLY WAS not by any means fatisfied with
this explanation, and give notice of his intention to
introduce a fpecific motion on an early day.
Mere thy bistuuta tattled.

elfWt!/ ACTS;
Mr. CORRY role so move, that that Hoofs do p
into a Committee on the Ira Revenue Aas.
Mr. PITT thought as none of the Aas expired
before the 25th of March. and as the dikuilion, if
entered upon this evening, would be protraaed. it
would be more ezpedient to defer the difcaffion to
another night—the fajta of Alta important smell
faty was one en which the leap pable delay ought
to be admitted.

Mr. CORRY entered completely into this view of
I the fubjea. end declared that he would be perfealy
fatiafied if the H.cule was merely to go prefesoia into
the Committee. It might afterwards be expedient
to report progrefs, and the Collamittee might meet
again on a future day.
Mr. FOSTER agreed in the expediency of this
fi♦ggellion. -
The Houfe accordingly refolved into the Commit-
tee. The refolutions were agreed top* fens.. and
the report ordered to be received to-morrow.
On the motion of the SECRETARY at WAR,
the Hoare went into a Committee on the bfatiny
The Bill paired the Committee. end as report
was ordered to be brought up to-morrow.

TOLUIITAII BILL COMMITTiI.
Mr. Secretary YORKE obferved, that be bad
fevers) clanks to move, and as many other Mem.
ben might alfo have clauks to triing forwaril, he
thought at wmild be much better, and be fuppoied
it would be more agreeable to the Houk, that dif-
coffions On the general priociple of the Bill Ihould
be waved till the debate upon the report. One
amendment which he had to move went to confine
the operation of the Bill -to Gwent Britain, es the
Corps exilling in Ireland were all formed ender Ads
of Parliament paired in that !country before the
Union. Another was, that all Corps of Yeomanry
.or Volunteers tbould be continued. enters his Ma.
jelly Should Gina), his intention to,difbattd or difcon;
Aisne any eUrneh Corr, by orders ifrued through
oae of his Metieltrw pntteipal Secretaries of State.
He prepared that to this claurelhotdd be added, "or
any tart of filch Corps."
Sir W. YOUNG proceeded to animadvert on
the prefent Rate of the Volunteer Syftem. He ob.
jetted in very warm terms to the extent to which the
Volunteer Sylteen had been carried. He thought
now, as be bad formerly exprelled, that by far too
great a part of the population of the country was
locked up in die Volunteer Eftablifhtnent. The fyi--
tem of exemptions was carried to a moftnwarrant.
able and ruinous length. Utiles Come reltviaion was
introduced it was radiation to talk of ever having
an efficient regular force. The Volunteers as they
at prefent exifted, merely operated to the diminution,
or rather the deftrudion, of the regular army. He
was convinced that thee who bad not entered into
Volunteer Corps from any other motives than thole
of mere exemptions, thould not be entitled to any
privileges. He fuggelted. therefore, the propriety
of a claufe by which it flould be eluded. that all
Corps of Volunteers accepted face the.a7th of July,
fhould not henceforth claim the benefit of any ex-
emption. As the Volunteer Syfiem now flood. there
was no regular, accurate divifion of the different
c6ffes in the community. The firft clots, whkh was
in the nature of things the molt efficient clefs, was
not called on its a proportion nearly equal to the
original intentions of the Legiflature. It did appear
to him that exemptions on filch an extenfive reale
muft be given up as utterly fubverfive of any regu-
lar military eflablithment applicable to the prefent
circumllances of Europe. The Ali of the aad of his
Majelty was the Aa on which he thought the Vo.
lunteers ought to be governed. The AA of the 43c1
was an Aa of a totally different nature. It was not in
the firft infiance applicable to voluntary fervice. and
thofe enrolled under this Azt would not proceed on
the former principles of voluntary fervice. The Hon.
Baronet enlarged fomewhat on this point, and at
length concluded by declaring his intention to Cub.
snit a motion in terms of his fPeech.
Mr. PITT expreffed himfelf decidedly boa& to
the propoftiun which the Hon. Baronet had brought
forward. To him it feemed utterly fubverfive of the
whole Volunteer Ellabliffiment. The faith of Par-
liament was already pledged to the Volunteers, and
to violate that pledge was a meafure to which he
could not linen, even for a moment. Exemptions
to a certain extent had been held out to all Corps,
and it was not rarely now for any Gentleman to
move, that thefe exemptions, tO folemnly held forth,
Ihould, without the fenallefl reafonable came, be
withdrawn. Parliament had faid, that in contequence
of exercife for a certain number of days, certain
private es Ihould be allowed. During the days fpe•
cified, this exercife had been regularly gone through,
and was it then, after the previous atiurances of Par-
liament, to be laid, that all thefe exertions were to
be without any adequate reward ? It wa, not denied
by the Hon. Baronet, that his principle was not
meant to be univerfally applied. There were certain
Corps of Volunteers which were t., continue in the
exercife of all their privileges, but the dittiation a.
to time and place attempted to be introduced. was
one which he himfelf could not fail to confider pe-
culiarly ungracious. The Hon. Baronet bad pretty
roundly laminated, that there was one deferiptit,n of
Volunteers who came forward from the moil patri-
otic motives, while others were merely prompted by
a with to evade the labours of compulfory fervice.—
The allegation, which went the length of affirming
that that part of the community which was molt cal-
culated for fervice, had been locked up by the Vo-
lunteer fyfiem, was one with which it was altogether
impoilible for him to coincide. It had been infirm.
med. that thofe who did not enter into Volunteer
Corps in the firft inflame poked -rid no degree a
merit, but merely fell on this as the heft expedient to
exchange compulfory Crevice. To this objeaion he
conceived that the anfwer was at once clear and
conclutive. Praia:neat Lad held out certain induce-
ments to voluntary offers of fet vice. The public
had lifiened to thefe inducements. A great body of
voluntary fervice had made its appearance, far in-
deed beyond what even the fault fanguine expeltat ions
had anticipated. Was it then for Parliament, after
fueh an affurance had been given, and after it had
been thus aged upon, to dslavow every former af-
furance, and to withdraw every inducement to a
fpecies of fervice, which, in the fiat inn awe. was
the fubjeCt of, he might fay, univerfal approbation.
Parliament laving held out particular inducements
to voluntary fervice. it was neither juit nor politic
to tetrad what had beet: offz:ed :ton. confuicrations

of wife and liberal policy. It coati not be pre-
tended that there was any want of seal in the
difplay of national pagiotifm. On the contrary,
public fpirit had °untapped •every previous anti-
cipation. It was not fair then to contend that
there was no merit, when the fpirit of the country
far outfiripped the demands or even the hopes of the
Government. The idea of the Hon. Baronet was
therefore in every point of view to be reprobated.—
To fuppofe that all Volunteer Corps accepted fince
the syth of July fisould be deprived of exemptions,
would be a dired breach of conned. The fad was
that this would be a moll inaccurate and abfurd
dif-
tindion. There were many individuals in Volunteer
Corps formed previous to that time, who had en-
tered at a much later period. and he fho_ Add be glad to
be informed on what principle it was thit individuals
ffe(Greg every claim to the fame exemptions, fhould
be placed on an inferior footing t The Right Hon.
Gentleman baying gone through thole topics, con-
cluded by expreSing a hope that the Hon. Baronet
would withdraw his ;amendment.
Mr. WINDHAM profeffed his unwillingoels to
enter into the general fubjed on the precut oceafion.
He thought it would be better to have all the amend-
went, introduced into the Bill, and regularly before
the Honfe, previous to any difeulfion of the general
principle of the Volunteer Syffens. The Right Hon.
Member Paid a few words on the general fubjea of
exemptions, but as this will be more folly dilculfed
on a future day we decline entering on it at the pre-
feat moment. He declined giving a decided opinion,
but thought that it was a matter for very grave con-
fideration.
Mr. FULLER agreed in the general sentiments
eapreffed by Mr. Pitt.. The Volunteers bad come
out lite men. They were ready, and had offered to
come ant before the comptilfory fervice ; they were
not willing to appear like itapreffed men. The Hon.
member then took notice of fornething that had been
Paid refpetling_the deficiencies in the Militia of the
County of Suffez;iihith, he obferved, arofe greatly
from its extent of ninety miles of coaff, obit/. woo
dog thefsafsde—(o load LgiS !)—in confequence of
which there was a lefs number of adjacent Cosaties,
from which to draw fubfikutes ;—but he had no
doubt that deficiency would loon be found to ceafe.
Here tome explanations and comedian took place
between the Hon. Member and the Secretary of
State, when he concluded by defining the Houle to
laash as much as they pleafed—(a Lath).
Mr. Secretary YORKE did not deem it neceffary
to make any reply to the fpetvls of the Hon. Baro:
net, as that had been fo fully refuted in the tt:t
There
was the Right Hon. Gentleman behind him.
was one thing which the Right Hon. Gentleman op-
polite to him teemed to requeli, to which be could
not certainly bring lunifelt to agree ; and that was
the collecting all the aides that might be intended
by erg the Members of that Houle, in a mats on the
table. But if Gentlemen would receive his amend-
ments pv forina. they would then fee the Bill in the
ante in which he winged to put it, and it might go
through the Committee, be printed, and re com-
mitted for another day. He thought, under there
circumfiances, that it might be printed and laid on
the table on Toefday at fartheS, perhaps on Monday
next.
Mr. FULLER explained.
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Mr. CURWEN walled that an account of the
numbers in the different claffes compofing the Vo
lunteer Cot ps fliould be laid on the table. The infer-
ence from fuch an account, he was convinced, would
be to thew that the greater part of thefe Volunteers
beyond the firfi daft, were men who could not an.
body themfelres with any particular reference to ex-
emptions.
Colonel CRAUFORD thought that the Hon.
Baronet would be induced to wave his amendment,
if it were contented to recommit the Bill. He mull
however take Tome opportunity now, or on another
occafion, of delivering his fentinsents, as he gave fo
decided a preference to an Armed Peafantry.-
21formturr.

Mr. PITT thought that it would be very wove-
°lent to the Houle to know what courfe was to be
taken, provided that at all events too much delay
were not ocealioned. It had been cults:unary in fimi-
lar cafes frequently to recommit a Bill. For his own
part, he had no intention to propofe his intended
claufes that night, but he Mould with to put the
1-inufe in poffelEon of what he intended to move in
the Committee.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
wifhed to confult the convenience of the Houfe. He
agired with Mr. Yorke's ideas refpetting the propof-
ed claufes, and thought it better to have the objat
of the dailies dated previoufly.

Sir WILLIAM tOUNG declined preffing hi.
amendment, but contended, that the Volunteers en
rolled after the :7th of July, could not be confider-
ed as cnimistg within the original meaning of the
Volunteer Sytlern.
Mr. Secretary YORKE then rofe and faid, that
he uncle, Rood the chitties were now to be received
pre forma. the Bill to go through the Committee, and
the report afterwards to be brought up. and recom-
mitted. fe that Gentlemen might all be enabled to
fee it in the way in which they waited. He could
not agree with all the fuggeßions of the Right Hon.
Gentleman under the gallery behind him, much as
he approved of many things which he threw out. He
hoped the principle of the Volunteer fyllem would
not unneceirartly be introduced into this difcuffion.—
The objea of the Houle, at the prefent moment, he
prefumed to be, to endeavour to ilrengthen it. It
was not a departure from the General Defence Bill,
but was indeed a very great facility for the calling
out of the Mats, Mould that meafure be rendered ad-
' vikable, inafmuch as by this fyfiem the public were
provided with a number of Volunteer comtriffioned
and non.commidioned Officers, ecc. He then took a
brief review of the hillory of our Volunteer Corps,
more particularly with refpeß to the allowances.—
No Corps in the kingdom, he believed, had, in point
of falk, ezercifed lets than 3o to as. and even to so
days, and he thought that urril the hay feafon com-
menced. it was very proper and necerfaty to encou-
rage them to obtain as much more dilcipline as pof.
fible ; for whatever other Gentlemen might think, he
would much rather fee them well difcaplined than
irregular. The Right Hon. Gentleman behind him
had mentioned various modes with this slew. He
had MR obferved that so days was an infufficient
time. He bed then adverted to a sonde of calling
aina out on pay fora limited time, with a barmy

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Ott ler that AR, by isitielt 14,000 Volnutemir barb-
. already been called out finer November. HO had
likewife propofed 33, or 40 days exercife, -with .he
i addition of the affihnce of regular Officer,. That
. fracas had been adopted in fume maritime tom.
ties, and might be carried to a greeter ethnic.
It would, however, be neeeffary to welder .tise
amount of the eapence, and whether the *dragnets
is fully equivalent. The felons of the lirobisteer
Corps in thefe repeal', could not be, gembilliked ;
local circumaances mutt be attended to. Sonnialelge
might defove particularextenfions, but dark
mull be determiued by the particular charm=
of the relpeßive cafes. As to the 'alliance of Ike.
gular Officers, there was no hindrance whatever '2l
relent to the employment of (rich Officers in Nth
as defired to have them ; there were al.
readyCl many loch. In the old Cogp• it was istre
thought advifeable to give pay toField &freers.
It was not connoted that they were in Militias .
to Rand in need of it. In the modern Corps, the
affiance has been given only to Adjutants, Aar
the principle of economy, he very readily indeed
that there was nothin! more agamti ecessonny *Mr
than to be pitiful ; yer he thought it better to begin
fornethint under the mark. Having maibtaindd
thefe points to which the Right Hon. 'Gentleman
had adverted, he mull fay he did not think it Deca-
-1 fary to make them the &Ned of legiflativeirovi-
fions, and therefore bad not introduced them into
this Bill. A word or two more on the fubjeft of per-
manent pay. It was in his Majellys power to call
out the Volunteer., and to place them ar.d.:r alartial
law. He intended to move, that whenever;on being
fo called oat, they received the alloWance of ewe
~gainea, or other funs in advance, it ihould be token
out of the two goings, bounty, allowed on coming
into afloat fervice: and that after the defeat and es-
pulfion of the enemy, they Mould, on returning home,
receive the farther allowance of one guinea encore..-
He ihould next advert to two other peons which
were thought matter for Legination. line,. 'Ake
Right Hon. Gentleman thought itseeeffary to woke
• a claufe or claufes to regulate the doubts refpeeking
the eleitioo of Officers, which slid not appear 8,-
1
ceffary. He had never heard any body doubt the
King's power to commillion, or to empower the Lord
Lieutenant to commilfions mw his Slajefly's
to rejs thole who might be recommended even
by the Lord Lieutenant. .All the difference was,
. where there were exprefi regulations upon the fob-
7jeil. He knew of no Carps bit one, the London
and Weltmintler Light Horfe, which he bad ma•
tioned befiwe, as being thus ciresuntlanced. It was
an old corps. and often dißingoillsed itfelf. Nobody
he underflood could, by the conaitutioa of that
corps, be admitted a member of it without the
King'. approbation, and if they had a power to re-
commend Officers, they might be refafed." But
when on aßual ferrite they had as fuch power, for
then all rife by feniority from the highs& down to
1 the !owe& Officer, who is then fucceeded, in cafe of
1 vacancy. by the fenior private. So peculiar was
their confiitution ; and as he had found them. fa he
left them. But it was in this town that people feast-
ed to imagine every thing was contained, and than
bucaufe two or three corps thought in fuch a meaner
of their foppoled powers, that it was the fame thing
every where. It would, doubtlefs, be highly impolitic
and highly abfurd to introduce perfons into the fitna.
lion of officers in corps who were not refpedable, nor
agreeable to the corps : nor indeed was the Lori
Lieutenant bound to fend in every name. In the coun-
try the cafe was very different from what fonts peo-
ple imagined. Where gentlemen of influence had raW.
ed numerous corps, no fuel pretenfion had ever been
thought of. It was therefore a matter to be regu-
lated entirely by circumflances ; and he could fee no.
thing like a general rule that applied to it. He could
fee no ufe for any alias refpetting Committees p-..
their objeß was merely Tor pecuniary 'natters, and
whenever they have attempted to go beyond their
limits, they have been checkeil. They are merely a
Committee of Paymafters, and military Gentlemen
' may eafily underhand their utes in that particulate
The next point was the mode in forcing regularity.
He was adverfe to claufes for fines and imprifou-
ment, as being again(' the very principles of Volun-
teering. He inuit think that the preient power of
the Officers was futficient for that porpok. The
belt mode of proms !log their regularity was to
invite them to come out on permanent pay and duty.
Chinks of this nature might have a tendency greatly
to leffen the number of the Volunteers, but it would
be againtt the principles of the Defence At itfelf.
For it was laid to the people. 4. it you come out, the
operations of this AEI, as compulfory as you think it,
Gall be fulpended." But if. when they bad come
nett, we made ufe of compulfion, might they not be-
gin to think that entire faith was not kept with theme
The Right. Hon. Secretary then proceeded to time
the objea of the clanks he delign..l to introduce :--
t. Pcriiins ailing a, Volunteers were not to late their
exemptions, within a certain period to be hereafter
determined.-2. A hriunty to be given to Volunteers
on their coming out in the firit instance, when called
upon, and another on their return to their homes....
3. To fettle the mode in which Volunteers, after re.
figning, (hall be liable to the ballot. As the law now
Rands, they are liable immediately on quitting the
Corps. The exemptions of all are now propofed to
be put on the fame footing, and none to be exempted
unlefs they attend exercife 24 days. A great deal of
power mull be given to the Deputy Lieutenants in
refpeß to fume material regulations, on account of
the impoffibility of ellabliflung general rules for each
county, as their propriety or untitnefs MIA depend
upon local circumtlanees. Other clanks mull be intro.
duced, inffiding penalties upon thole who (ball affill
the Volunteer, in difpcf.ng of their arms and accou.
trements. Others to enable the Commanding Officers
to appoint place.% to deprlit the arms of the refireatre
corp. ; and to krcp fuck arm. in proper order and
repair. The expence of thefre depots to le difeharged
by the General of the dillrid. out of the land tax,
inlie.ol of leaving it to be paid by the perillies and
di(lrits; but this charge mull be limited to a certain
turn. Another claufe to be directed to remove the
doubt refpeaing the Commanding Officer having fog
power to difchArgc any nieninar of the corps he ball
think proper. Further, if a qiiettiorr Itiould arife ma
the lubjed cf any grienl'icr withdrawing. an appeal
is deligned to be granted to the Lord Lieutenant—.
The nght of withdrawing is only to apply when the
corps as difensbodied i fur when embodied so rock
riguidfica sap be given. Thek, Sonanded the Right

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enquiry... _
Mr. PITT—" My ardent deism in this bufinels is,
that what is now determined upon, may be fomething
lets frivolbus and evanefcent than what has been
hitherto performed. It is the diny of Parliament to
eftablifh fome fulid and permanent fyftem, by which
all the advantages of which the Volunteer fervice is
capable, may be fecured. The firft amendment I am
inclined to propufe. is directed to the equivocal
meaning of the term invafion. As it now Rands in
the Aft, it admits of too great a latitude. When the
Volunteers were invited to put themfelves upon per-
manent duty, laft year, there certainly existed
grounds fur the belief that an invafion was about to
take place. The apprehenlion has continued, but no
precife limits are yet afcertained, to which the' pro-
bability of invafion is to be applied, or on which the
Volunteers are to be called upon to their aftive
duties in the field. The Right Hon. Gentleman did
not explicitly tell the Houfe. if the bounty he fug-
gelled was to be extended to all who fhould be aril-
_ ling to turn out to Cave their country. 1 with it to
be extended generally. and I mull acknowledge my
fears, that it is not. as now propofed, fuffictently
liberal. I underftoocrit to be one guinea for at
days, but then this fnm was to be dedtteted from the
two guineas marching money. This is only changing
the time without incleating the benefit. It is faying,
4, We will encourage you to march ont,but when your
. Cervices are aSeally required, and yon are fulfilling
year military stutiesore sill takeaway the encourage-
meat." With regard to the faring, furely the Right
Hon. Gentleman s notions of Bate ceconomy.are very
eatromdinary. If the Volunteers will meet the enter-
gescy of the boar, and proceed to the field of battle,to
PIMA the land. (Drell' 3 fo 0001. can no way be bet.
.terapplied than to remunerate thefe gallant defenders
1 of Abair country. A prominent aijed it is with
..une..to bring the difeipline of the Volunteers to as
• high a fiats of excellence as the nature of their en.
• gagsweat will permit. I do conceive no General Of-
ficer re this Houle will think kfs than 4csdays, or 46,
including the infpeftion will produce this important
eiee. Parliament has implied in the reftding
Ms, that twenty days is (officiate and on this
Government has afted ; and hence the neceffity
of not leaving it to the difcretion of 'the Minifiry,
without interporing the recommendation of the Le:
gillature. Whea-Parliament does in its liberality
.atfign the fond in proportiou to the number of days
for the Volunteer dikipline, it keens to me more
coafillent with the maxims and principles of the
Comllitution, for die fame high authority to deter-
mine what than be the precife time to which the in-
&salon in military difeipline Mil be extended.—
The fame rale of condo& is adopted with refped to
the Militia, and why Ihoold not the .uniformity be
preferved with regard to the Volunteers ? The next
confideraties to which I hall folicit the attention of
she Coransittee, is the mode of inftruftiob molt
proper far this intlitution. Pollibly the molt !ego.
•Isr ersyfor Parliament to aft in this particular, is by
modish to his Majaly exprehly on this fulled. I I
me an& concerned to fay, that I Rill difeern in ad.'
thitiMmetheo a reluctance to giving pay to fuch Field
mesas Imodd be required to iffill the Volunteers
-Inith dieitibparior knowledge. I with it to be dilline-
ipundirilood, that I never have propofed this addi-
Sim Amid be made to any Volunteer Corps without
the concurrence, nor even without the particular re-.
leek of the Commander of fuch Corps • Nor have
I Aid fueb Field Officers thould have the command
tithe Corps. By an attention to thefe matters, I
nanocive all poffible objection is removed in the mind
of every individual in the Houk, excepting in what
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to the expence. How contemptible is this
compared to the v. great advantages which
mull be derived from thefe7xteans of information. I
entertain no fears of the energy and enthofiafm of
coGentlemen to promote difeipline among their
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n.s who have entered the Volunteer fervice;
but Come of them, at leaft, are not fully competent to
the new and important fituation they are called
upon to occupy. With the moll poignant grief
have I ken Officers whole brow. are adorned with
the laurel of victory, who have begun a glorious and
triumphant career, forced to abandon the fcene of
dawn and of- honour ; and either from difeale or
Pegnir7, driven into obkority. Such men. with re.
paired conflitation% may be invited to thole honour.
able duties, and their hearts will throb with gratitude
to be again regored to that rank, and to thofe utilities,
which the iron rod of iteceffity conftrained them to
Ttfigo. This is not an imaginary tale; I have vifited
chi* hooch veterans in their dark retreat, and they
have accepted the invitation to light and happinefs.
Surely Gentlemen will not confider the infignificant
fonts mifepplied, that fhotdd call into action thole
who are fo anxicus and fo capable in the fervice of
their country. With regard to the appointment of
Officers, perhaps, this fhould be left with the Lord
Lieutenants, and their recommendation fhonld be
fail, unlef. his Majeflv fignify his ditipprobation.—
TM only grieflion which vela on my mind, as ap-
plicable to this part of the fliVie,t, is, that fume
doubts having been introduced on this head, whe-
ther it would not remove all ambiguity by fome de-
claratory claufe ? The remedy is extremely eafy.—
Why not affimilate the regulation in this refpeft to
the Militia ? for when a thoufaad commillions are to
be figoed, the delay of many months may be occa.
honed, and numerous inennveniencies mull ante from
fuels procraftination. Perhaps then it may be proper
to prepare a chore for this Bill, direfting that the
catamarans for this purptle fbould be figised by the
Lords Lieutenants, which appointments Ilsottld be
deemed valid. milers ditfented from by the higheft
authority. Thus all uncertainty and delay would
be obviated, for it would then be the clear and indif-
penfible duty of the Lords Lieutenants to fill up the
vacancies. What I have before explained, will (up.
ply my reafons for differing Irons the Right Honour.
able Gentleman on the lobjel of intoning the at-
tendance of the Volunteers, and the means pro
poled for taking due care of their alms. Many of
tbefe over-rate their attainments, and foppoki
when they can fall into the rank, and go through a
few manxuvre., they are as competent as their reigh-
bouts a ho have fact ificed a much larger portion cf
their time and attention to thee matters; hence all
the operation . of ti.e corps are frequently coniufed
and abbot' .11-4. 1 do the, efoie infift upon ;:, that
if it is incest, to Lw.g the diMpling to -.:ny to:: of

refpettable footing, it is neceffary that times and days
(hould be prefcribcd. It may, perhaps, more accord
with the popular fentiment to fay, that the whole is
voluntary, and that will or caprice Mould be the Pole
guide. Ido not court popularity by fuch a declara-
tion. I admit that no needlefs reftriaions Mould be
impofed upon the Volunteers, but I have too high an
opinion of the individuals of which our corps are
compofed, to fuppok they will not cheerfully fubmit
to all the privations their new fituation requires.—
We are to confider that theVulunteers are molt of them
at a period of life when difcretion is not always pre-
dominant ; fomewhat of the wantonnefs of youth we
mull eve& ; and if there be not tome moderate and
gentle fyllem of aontroul, very ferious inconvenien-
cies may be apprehended. We mutt not, from timi-
dity mifappfad, and from delicacy unfeafonable,
admit mattYrs of great moment to depend upon the
accidental humours of mankind. The Right Hon.
Gentleman here again kerns difpofed to leave every
thing to the difcretion of Government. Parliament
has not thought fit to rely fo entirely upon it; it has
affigned rules, and I am much miflakeo if the conduit
of Adminiltration has not evidently Rican that thefe
regulations were expedient. I (hall fee how far Mi-
ni tiers are inclined to refpee thefe in the confideration
of this Bill. I have framed Tome which Teem to me
appropriate, and I Gall make ufe of them, or other-
wife, according to the difpofition I fee in the Right
Hon. Gentleman in this particular. The next affair
to which I (hall advert, is the power of refignation. I
prefume a Ilion explanation will make it evident that
the chafe propofed will require no trifling alteration.
The change need not be tedious in the form but it
is very material in fubßance. It is nothing form, but
convening all the affirmative into negative
dons. On the quellion of the power of re
me p
the eminent perfon in the profeffion ow the
Bench, gave an opinion, which was oppofed by ano-
ther Gentlemanof very high diainaion in die law,who
is no. lefs admired for his brilliant imagination and
commanding eloquence, than for kit legal know.
ledge. From the uncertainty to which we were ex-
pored, we were relieved by the judgment of the Court
of ring's Bench, who removed all further doubt,
and &dared the power of refignation under the
exilling Adis. But what is it propofed we are to
do under the new Bill ? We begin by declaring that
to. be yet doubtful, on which the bigheß Coon of
Judicators has declared there is no doubt. We fay
then the Judges of that Nemo Tribunal are mif
taken, and that it is tweetary for us to interpofe
by a declaratory Law. But what is the aim of this
declaratory Law ? Laws of this kind are not to
ma& new refiriaions, but to revive and explain
the old law. Yet here a condition is attached be-
fore I afn dO that which,prior to this time, I could
perform without any condition, in the opinion of
the Learned Judges, who decided on the conflruilion
of the Law. This AB, then, inftead of reciting
there was doubt, ought to fay. there is no doubt ;
and as I laid before, all the affirmatives in the fue-
ceeding pbrafes, founded upon them, mull be con-
verted into negatives. The Right Hon. Gentleman
fometimes adverts to the number of Volunteers,
as if they impeded, more than I think they really
do, the recruiting for the other Cervices. It certainly
deferves attention, that the recruiting be promoted
in convenient fituatiocs, that the manufnaures and
agriculture of the country may not be unneaffarily
obllrnifted. In certain cafes, where the levies fall
iojurioufly on particular parifhes and dill:ids, tome
expedient fliould be retorted to, by which the adja-
cent parts, not fubjea to the fame difficulties, may
relieve its immediate neighbourhood. While lam
making thefe obfervations, I mull not omit to no-
tice an impediment which has arifen in Come places,
where the nature of the manufaaories require an
immenfe number of juvenile dependents, who have
been engaged under articles of apprenticethip. In
Tome of thefe cafes the mailers altume a fort of pro.
perty in the time of the apprentices, and. I under.
Rand, will not admit them to have the opportunity
of being inftruCted in the ufe of arms. This eircum-
Rance, I confers, has not fallen within my own know.
ledge, but I am informed of it from an authority,
the correanefs of which has given it confiderable
weight in my mind, and the evil operates fo exten.
fively, as to make it proper to take notice of it in the
pmgrefs of the prefent Bill. I have now perhaps
trelpaffed too much on the indulgence of the Com-
mittee ; it has, however, appeared to me material to
enter into thefe explanations."
Mr. Secretary YORKE Rated that it was intended
to propofe an inereafe of the prefent eflabliffiment of
Field Officers attached to Volunteer Corps, and that
among other alterations it was intended to appoint a
general officer to every :sou or ;moo men, which
officer was meant to aft as a Brigadier General of
fuch battalion, in the event of invafion. He agreed
with the Right Hon. Gentleman as to the propriety
of having all Volunteer Commiffions figned by the
Lords Lieutenants of Counties, and his forprife was
that loch a priaice had not been long fence adopted.
The Volunteer Syftem, however, was upon this point
the fame under the late Miniflers. With refpal to
the claufe to fettle the right of refignation which was
defcribed by the Right Han. Gentleman as a decla-
ratory law, it was in truth both a declaratory and an
enacting law, and the latter was that which formed
the Cubic& of that Gentleman's entertaining rem arks.
After come further converfatlon betwen Mr. Pitt,
Mr. Secretary Yorke, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Ctirwen, Mr.
C. Wynne, Cul. Eyre. and Sir John Wrottefley, the
feveral claufes of the Bill were agreed to, tl,e Houle
retuned, the Report was received, The Bill ordered
to be printed, and ta be taken into tut thee confider*.
lion on Tuelday next. Adjourned till tomorrow.

LONDON.

SATURDAY. MARCH 3.

PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY A ONY. 0 CLOCII
for money. 33,t1.—Dittoi for April 36.-omanitim 3 Ili(

Yeßerday a box, containing dicpstches and tom-
:millions for the Kisu's fignattne, was kilt from the
Admiralty to the Qi2een's Palace. We are hippy to
Rate, that his Mai s STY was will enough to hear the
difpatches real to him, and to fign the commislion.
The fonowing is a copy of the Bulletin (hewn by
Lord AMHLP FT at St. J.:mes's this day :
Queen'.• Palate, March 3,1164.
" nese it so material air atizm is His MAyssr r jsi:t
Siped as ifesfirs.)

The length of the Debate prevents our giving, this
day, any of the articles received by the Lilbon Mail,
except the following, which will be foond very inter-
citing. Some of our contemporaries have denied
that Lord Nsisow had gone to Algiers : we can,
however, alfure the Public, that we have letters from
Officers on board his fleet, dated off Algiers.—One
of them will be found fubjoined. Lord hlst.so.'s
fleet was left by the SZAHOILSI frigate on the z4th
of January off Majorca, on its way back to Toulon.
Letters from Lilbon, of the tyth ult. Rate, as fol-
lows :—" Although it was generally fuppofed that
our neutrality was eonfented to by the Flail' CONsUL,
on condition of our Government paying him fix mil•
lions of livres annually, and three millions in ad-
vance, yet it is now rumoured, that this arrangement
will not be ratified, unlefs a further advance is made
of half a unlifon of ernfadoes. According to the
late& advice from the eafiward, the Toulon fleet was
ready for feu."
The above is exactly what we predicted would take
place : nor did it require any uncommon fagacity to
do fo. The blaory of all nations has verified the faa,
that a purehafed peace or neutrality has always
opened the way to tient exations. The fame thing
will take place with Spain, and will be repeated while
a tingle dollar remains unexpended of all the.mafs of
treaftuv brought hair from /youth America, fusee
the ratifying of the mat peace.
IXTIACT or a LITTIII nor AM OITICIR La LOU

■sisos's Filar,
Dated off Atlas, January al, z!O4.

a On the night of the t sth the Su r Ran, command-
ed by Captain Kerr', anchored at Algiers, having
Mr. nacos, the Conful General, on board, and
letter from Lard Newton to the Day, demanding
that Mr. Fatcon lbould again be received as Conful
there, and that an the Maltefe who have been lately
captured by the Day's cruizers, lhould be liberated
and given up as Briti(h fubjeas. On the following
morning, at day break, a falute was fired from the
fort, which, however, Captain Hags did not return,
but feat p Lieutetuutt on fhore with a letter, to re•
quell an audience of the Dry, which was accordingly
granted. Captain Haws, accompanied by Mr.
SCOTT, Chaplain to Lord NrcsoN, who Cpeaks the
Arabic fluently, and who ailed as interpreter, there
waited upon the Dry, and prefentcd Lord WILSON'S
letter, with a (nimble and fpirited remonfirance on
the occafion. Throughout the interview, which kit-
ed nearly an hour, the Div's conduit was extremely
violent and erstropear. and it concluded with his poll.
tively refuting to receive either Mr. F•t.coa back
again, or to give up any of the Mahefe iahispoffdlion.
" On the t7th, fn the morning, our fleet of ten
fall of the line came in fight of Algiers, when Cal.l
tain Stays again went on fhore to wait upon the
Dar, who, however, refufed to fee him, he being
then bnfily employed on the batteries., and after
waiting for nearly two hours,Captain Keats return-
ed on board, and on our fleet entering the Bay,
Captain KEATS Ulna on board the VICTORY, and
communicated to Lord Mitres all that had palled
with the Thy.

4. Under theft circumflances his Lordiltip 4114 not
think it advifeable to attempt further iniercourfe
with the Day, or to make ufe of any threat he was
not prepared to realife, as, though we could eallly
in a few hours have dearoyed his whole fleet, which
was then lying in the Mole, 4nd have knocked
down the town about their ears, we might have
crippled fame of our 'hips in fuch a manner as to
render them enable ro retinae the blockade of Tou-
lon at this feafun of the year, which was deemed a
much more important objeft at the prelim moment.
We therefore to-day left Algiers on our way to Tou-
lon again.

44 The whole fquadron were more difappointed
than I can poffibly expels, at not being permitted to
humble the Div, and val.-pate for a time this neft
of pirates. Two hours would have done the bufinefs
completely, and I truft we (hell one day make the
experiment. I am pare:lly convinced, from my own
obfervation, and it was alfo the opinion of the able(
officers in the fleet, that ft. otr fail of the line would
certainly deßroy all their storks, and all their navy
in one morning with very little lots. They have,
indeed, a great number of guns mounted on their
principal battery, which defends the mole where their'
fleet is laid up, and it has a formidable appearance
from the bay ; but, it is f• injudicinufly confirm:led,
that line of battle (hips can anchor upon each flank of
it, within half piflol fhot, where not a gun cculd
be brought to bear upon them, and in which fitua-
tion they would foon lay the wh.,le work in ruins.
" This work is the file defence of the town from
the tea fide, except an old wall without a tingle gun
mounted upon it, and which a few broadfides would
crumble into due.
" The garrifon does not amount to above four
thoufand foldiers (if they cats be called filch), who
have neither dikipline co.irdge, and who particu-
larly dread the Englifh ; not only from our naval
&ill, but from an ancient prophetic tradition they
have menet them,and whirh they all firmly believe,
that Algiers is to be taken and deftroyed by the
Engin on a Sunday :' The Pi.,phecy may be eafily
fulfilled by us whenever we chafe, and we molt Non-
ly take fnme decided Reps to humble the Dry, tinier'
we are content to pay him tribute, like moll of the
other European Powers. N' Confil now can ever
i be lent back with honour or Vt.. y, till fatisfaSion is
obtained for the ili.fu!ti retired."

EXTRACT 09 ♦ sILITTIR PROM A MARCHANT AT CV

I!ALTAR, DATID.IIII.+

N On the iii of this month, the &Aeolus frigate,
commanded by Captain Boyce, arrived here from
Lord NsLsoa's fleet, which he left off Majorca, on
their way to Toulon, eleven days ago.

'4 Lord Nscsor his been with his fleet to Algiers;
to demand rellitution ofa number of hialtefe, whom
the Dey has lately captured and made flares of—ead
alto that Mr. FALCON, who had been forced out of
the country in a moll violent and uojult manner.
fhonld again be received as Britifh Conful. Both of
which requeßs the Dey refuted to comply with.—
This we were prepared to expo% by letters received
a mouth ago from Algiers, would be the cafe. The
Dey is folely guided by tome attire intelligent Jew
Merchants at Algiers ; one of whom is his confiden-
tial Secretary. The whole trade of that country is
in their hands, and from their exteufi►e mercantile
eorrefpondence, they are perfetly acquainted with
the politics and charater of all the Governments in
Europe. Through their perfuafion and influence Mr.
FALCON was driven out of the conatry, under the pm.
text of Come Moorilb women being found in his bouk
though the real canfe was his having confladtly
refilled the attempts that were made to induse him to
connive at their covering French property daring the
war, which has been taken by our creiaers. and
which thefe Jews endeavoured to claim as fubjelts of
the Der. This, and his uniformly oppofing the ra-
pacious demands of the Dar on Great Britain. de-
termined them to get rid of him, in hopes we &mild
fend a Ids confcientious and more pliant Capful
" Our letters from Algiers, in November. train
one of the chief Jews, pofitively Rated, that the
Dkr was determined not to receive Mr. FALCON, Oa
that they knew oar Goveramnd woad ime dare to on&
Lord Nutoff to enforce hit being reetive4 otheroife there
can be no doubt that the fight of_a Arita fleet of
fovea fail of the line. led on by the Conqueror of the
Nile, would have obtained a ready compliance with
any terms he chafe to prefcribe, bad not the DST well
known the temper of our prefent Governmedt."
OFFICIAL
FROM TMa GIBRALTAR CHRONICLI Or BIM 4.

" In confequence of the refufal experienced by
Mr. FALCON, !...s return to Algiers, the following
Notice is bore publii;leJ by authority ;

is Vic Teat, attics, rob Jam. 1104.

M The Dar of Monte bay*/ related to maw, tbe Brit&
Coaful, all thipe are gnawed to beware bow they appear& do
Coat of Algiers, or permit tbooktres to be boarded by lb* Ad.
gcrioe Cruleas. (Aped) " Nllsoll 11111011rre
" MALAGA. JAN. r 6.

" On the 13th intl. at 43 minutes pail five in the
evening. a violent earthquake was felt. accompanied
with a loud fubterrateous noire, and terrible convul-
fions, the equal to which has not been experienced
for many years, fince we are allured that it exceeded
that of 1735 ; it Lifted go feconds, and did much
damage. particularly in the churches.
" The thermometer was at 63° ; that of Reaumter
at ,40, the barometer at 30,4.5 : the atmolphere
dark and cloudy. with the wind at North, variable,
alma calm ; in this manner It remained the whole
day, with Come rain in the morning and evening?'

Boa. Secretfte11144.11ihaoalt serial claufes ;
there are fome titrilndlllats efs confequence,
which it is not rianegary.'in the prefent Itage of the
enquiry, to fubmit to the attention of the Committee.