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of cite ttnton "mid 'mil? be found, intlige",t
the ttitrkgektatthe WEts It in tie 'Wen].
beret! in the Win tetlnd Stites oit-the Nuts.
kippi ? No it web In the: Eastern States, *here real
American Seamen were to be founds Yet it was in
these very parts that the war was Most unpopular ;
there it was most cried down, and on this par.,
tieblar point: There the people were most against
Mrs Madison, and in those districts it appeared
not a single Vote had- been given for this Presi-
dent, who had done them the favour to engage'
in a war fbr that in which they were so much int.-
tested. He proceeded to contrast the temper of the
Governments of England and America. He thought
there would be no charge against the English Go-
vernment for want of forbearance, he was rather led
to expect one of an opposite nature. This • was not
the time to go into this subject, but hereafter he
should have, what was in his own mind, a perfectly
satisfactory case to submit to the House. The con-
duct of Ministers had been marked by a perfect spirit
of Moderation, yet they had not relied on the hopes
instead of their means, nor failed to prepare for that
war in which the negotiations appeared likely to ter-
Minate ; as early as the month of May they had sent
out instructions to the Officers in America how to
act, and strengthened the Army and Navy on this
point. Their object, however,, had been principally
defence. Canada, which it was thought the first
burst of war would subjugate, had been successfully
defended; and none of our fleets had fallen into the
hands of the AMericans, notwithstanding they had
the advantage of choosing the moment of war. He
then defended the Government in not sooner placing
the American ports in a state of blockade.-
-There was no part of their conduct of which he
repented, or cf which he was ashamed ; they were
anxious to conciliate, but a finger could not be laid
on that spot where the rights and interests of the
country had been surrendered. He lamented the
degradation of the American character--he lament.
ed it, for every nation was interested in it ; and he
thought the 'letting down of her character no gain to
Great Britain, but much evil. Instead of assisting
those who were struggling •against the•tyranny of
France, she had thrown her weight into the opposite
scale, and that at the moment when she was on the
eve of receiving the Duke of Bassano's declara-
tion of the Cede of France, which was hostile to
the rights of every country. Then it was that
America seemed impatient to get into a war ra-
ther than settle the differences between her and
England. After waiting so long, it might have I
been expected that she would have waited to learn
the result of the proceedings of that House on the
Orders in Council, which had then commenced.—
She made her declaration at the moment the French
Ruler declared that he would invade and subjugate'
every country which refused to receive his commer-
cial system. It was at that moment when Bonaparte I
went to put himself at the head of his last army, with
which he sanguinely hoped to subdue the world to
his terms. This degenerate mistaken idea was taken
up by America, and at that moment she thought it I
consistent with her character and her interest to be-'
come the associate of France—(Hear, hear.) After
a few further observations on the disgraceful conduct
of America towards this country and towards Eu-1
rope, the Noble Lord repeated, that the best interests.;
of this country had been consulted by Ministers in
what they had done ; and again expressed satisfac-
tion at having the reflection, that if war could not be
avoided, justice was on our side ; and the war, he
trusted, would not be thought to have originated in
the misconduct of Ministers. He then moved—
" That an humble Address be presented to his Royal High-
ness the Prince Regent, acquainting him that we have taken
into our serious consideration the papers which were laid before
as by his Royal Highness's command, relative to the late dis-
cussions with the Government of the United States.
" That, while we deeply lament the failure of the endeavours
of his Royal Highness to preserve the relations of peace and
amity between this country and America, we highly approve of
the resistance orposed to the unjustifiable pretensions of the
Government of the United States ; being satisfied that those pre-
tensions were not admissible without surrendering some o' the
moat ancient, important and undoubted rights of the British
Empire.

"'That Impressed with these sentiments, and Fully convinced
of the justice of his Royal Highness's cause, his Royal Highness
ally rely on our zealous and cordial support, and our affording
every means necessary for prosecuting the war with vigour, and
far bringing it to a fare and honourable termination."
Mr. PONSONBY said, that he was induced to
rise thus early in the debate, in consequence of some
of the observations of the Noble Lord who had just
sat down, and who, though he had not quoted any
expression of his in terms, had inferrer', from the ge-
neral tenor of his observations, that l,r stood in the
rituat on cf being bound to support the Government
in the prosecution of the war with America. The
Bruise could not fail to remember the sentiments he
bad expressed upon the Orders in Council : from the
commencement to the conclusion of the system upon
which they were founded, he had alw:lys foretold
that they would he productive of hos:ilties between
Anietica and Great Britain; and when the Noble
Lord, in compliance with the sense of the House and
the wishes of the country, had advised the revocation
of these Orders, he (Mr. P.) had said, that however
adverse he was the system, and however pleased at
the revocation, .he feared that it had come too tar-
dily to be productive of any good effect. But he had
also said, that if the repeal of the Orders in Council
did not prevent hostilities, and that America should
rnanitest any unreasonable disposition towards this
eotuiti y, that he would be found as ready and as for-
ward to resist any unwarrantable aggression, as the
tiosi strenuous supporter of those Orders. The Noble
Lord had travelled further into the subject •of the
Orders in Council than he wished to follow him—they
had been revoked, and they had not produced Peace;
the two countries were in a state of war, and they
were then engaged in the discussion of a subject un-
connected with, and distinct from, the Orders in
Council. The Noble Lord had said, that, under
these circumstances, his Majesty's Ministers were
fairly entitled to the approbation of the House; but
that, whether or not their conduct met that approoa-
tto, the House wa4rbound to support the Crown in
the prosecution of the war. Without giving his full
lit to the Propositions of the Noble Lord, and
uottgh be should animadvert on some of the topics
i.urged in his speech and in the Address with which
me had concluded, he was free to say, that he felt no
4114Politiuu to vote against hint upon the present occa-

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