Star.
London, England, 1830-06-17 00:00:00

NATIONAL COLONIZATION SOCIETY.

A meeting of this Society was held yesterday. In the room used
for the discussions of the tiorticultutnt Society. Antonia the per.
tons assembled were several ladies. At two o'clock

Mr. R. W. HORTON took the Chair.
lie was supported by Mr. O'Brien, 31.1'. and 31r. Bulky, M.P.
Mr. W. Smith, M.P. and Mr. O. R. DAWFOU M.P. came into the
room during the afternoon, but WOO eterwarlls quitted it without
taking any part in the discussion.
Mr. Wzr.stoT HORTON, in taking the Chair, said that he had
felt great pleasure In acceding ro the requisition of the committee of
the society to preside at the meeting this day. Their object was
one to which he had devoted many year. of st.olious attention, and
which he confidently trusted would soon be carried into operation to
the advantage both of the colonies anti of the country. The society
who had called the meeting had their own views of the manner in
which emigration was to be effected. In those views he did not con.
cur, but the question now was, not the manner but the principle, lie
thought nobody could deny ist emigration was necessary to relieve
the people of this country from a part of that population for which
no employment could be found at home. To prove this he would
call their attention to some facts, for the accuracy of which he might
safely vouch, for he had taken pains to have them verified. These
were circumstances relating to the pariah of From, from which be
had last night presented a petition to the House of Commons, pray.
bag that the scheme of emigration might be carried into effect, and
offering to bear the expenses of the emigration of their own
poor. He wished here to observe, that he was not in favour of
eompuhory emigration • but be thought he could convince the
poor that it would be their interest to go into the colonies, where
their employment was required, and in which they might greatly

improve their condition by their own Industry, while they also be-
°edited the State. An emigration of capital was going on, why
should there not be an emigration of labour? This society did
not pretend to execute the scheme of emigration ; its object was to
obtain information—to lay it before the public, and to induce the
Government to undertake the executive past of the scheme.—
If the Government refined, it would then become their duty
to put it into effect. In the parish of Froine there WITI•
7,300 acres ; there were 14,000 people, who had formerly carried
on a manufactory of blue cloth, but who, being reduced at the end
the war, broke the machinery, which they imagined caust-.1
their distress; and the machinery not being renewed, the trade
had gone to Huddersfield, and the people of Frolue were now
suffering extensively from pauperism. How sould the econo-
mists get rid of that pauperism ? There were 2.500 persons as.
sessed us pate payers ; 399 were generally chargeabie to the rates;
and 557 were now receiving relief from them. Net one.atird of the
aide-bodied labourers were employed; and the exrenvs of theme
who sore employed were greater than the protluoe of their labour.—
A suns of 21,0001. had been expended within the List three years tOr
the charges of the poor. The pariah could spare two hundred and
fifty labourers immediately, leaving then three hundred more than
could be employed--a surplus that would be quite sufficient to meet
all the demands for contingent labour. lie Mould now show, from
the example of another place, what tan parish would gain if these
two hundred and fifty labourers could be removed without
exp.i:ce to them. Mr. Hodges, of the parish of New Beding-
ton, in Ken:, had stated to hint, that successive removals of the
pauper,
paupers of that parish hid taken place by means of funds borrowe.
by the parisli, and repaid at an interest of 4 pet cent. and that ts.l •
consequence was, the rates in that parish since the year 18;:i
had been reduced from 2,987. to 1.9841. which was their amount
for the present year; and that great reduction had been effected
by an expenditure of 888. for the emigration of part of their
poor. But, unfortunately, these men went to America, which
they strengthened by their skill and industry, while they
ought to have gone to our colonies, which were equally in
want of them. The colonies, front wanting a population, were poor,
and a burden to this country; while, with a good population,
they might be a benefit. He differed in ninny speculative points
from the members of this society ; but the promotion of human har-
pines' was their comniun object. That was not the place, nor the
time, for discussing these differences ; and he trusted there would be
but one common feeling of agreement upon the principles of the re-
solutions that were about to be proposed.

Mr. O'Butzsr moved the Ent resolution, declaring that there ex-
isted an excess of labourers in proportion to the means of employ-
ment.

Mr. BUCKLER seconded the resolution, and obaerved, that in the
moral as in the physical world there was a point up to which the
concentration of agents afforUed an increase of strength, but beyond
that point it proved a disadvantage. With regard to human labourers
considered as agents, it was his opinion that the countty had passed
that point, and that the colonies had not reached it; and that con-
sequently a transfer of part of the labourers from the former to the
latter must be beneficial to both.

Mr. %VILLE., the Secretary of the Society for the Allotment of
Land to the Poor, asked whether the Government had given either
their tacit or their avowed support to this plan ? and was then pro-
ceeding to discuss the propriety of the principle of emigration, and to
assert that was an alternative. besides expatriation and starvation,
when he was interrupted by the Chairman, as being out of order.
Mr. POWER said that the gentleman was clearly out of order.
This Society did not wish to interfere with the plan of that which
he represented, and which might proceed to-morrow with accele-
rated velocity. That case was bad when its supporters were obliged
to give nicknames.—(hear.) It was not expatriation. but the vo.
luntary emigration of a redundant class of labourers that was now
recommended.—(hear, hear.)

Mr. EDmoNns said he wished to ask the Chairman a question,
the answer to which would have some bearing on the literary inte-
grity of the assembh.tl lumbers of the Colonization Society. Much
had been said ~t the meeting, and lately in the press, about the lu-
minous discovet.is in political science published two or three months
ago to the world in a pamphlet, under the especial sanction of the
Colonization Soziety. Now the circumstances dwelt on most
strongly in that pamphlet drat appeared in a work on Political
Ecnomy, published by his brother three years ago. They ought,
in justice, to have acknowledged the source of their observations.
Tile etting did not seem disposed to decide on this disputable
point of literary political justice, and loud cries of " Question,
question !" put an end to this interruption.
Mr. Owsw (of Lanark) said that employment could not be ob-
tained here, in any way, for the numerous class of the labouring
population of the country. Thoushnds of families were now starv-
ing, and employment ought to be found, if possible, for them here
or elsewhere. He was proceeding to discuss the propriety of the mode
of proceeding recommended by the Society, when he was inter-
rupted by the cries of " Question !"
A long and very irregular disscussion, on the question whether
this subject should now be debated, then eosued ; upon which

Mr. C. BULLER said that he believed the rule today was in
pursuance of the recommendation sometimes put forth by certain
wise persons, to vote the Resolutions first and discuss them after-
wuds. This sally restored good humour, which had been
somewhat on the wane during the discussion on the point of order,
and the resolution was put and carried.
Colonel ToaaEss proposed the second Resolution, which Rest,.
lotion declared that there existed a great scarcity of labourers in the
Colonies. He observed that one objection made to the plan of emi.
gration vu, that the vacuum it produced would soon be tilled up,
and that it would conttr but a temporuy benefit ; but surely that
argument ought to have nu weight, for who was there that would
acknowledge men ought not to etu a good action because they might
be called on to repeat it, since they could not always destroy the
cause of the evil they wished to remedy. Besides, he did not believe
that population would always increase in a greater ratiothan capital
and the means of employment.
Mr. SCOTT, who held considerable property in New South
Wales, seconded the resolution, and spoke of the great benefits that
an increased population would confer on that colony.
The resolution was carried.
Mr. W. HAT r proposed the third resolution, which asserted that
one of die moat important objects of political economy was the
adoption of some sound practical measure of colonization, so as to
remedy pauperism in Britain and supply the deinang for labour in
the colonies. He commented on the three great principles of the
Colonization Society, namely, the selection of the enngranis..—the
concentration of them, and the sale of the waste lands, so as to
secure a return for the first outlay.

Mr. W. IiORTON objected to his being pledgiAl to these prin.
ciplet.
A long and irregular conversation was the consequence of this ob.
jection, which was renewed at every opportunity ►y the right ho.
nourable gentleman, and which was ultimately terminated by the
universal acknowledgment that nu one at the meeting was bound by
anything but by the terms of the resolutions themselves.

Mr. STIRLING seconded the resolution,7and went at some length
into a declaration of his decidcti concurrence with the three pinch.
pies above stated, which, he said, were admirably developed in the
pamphlet published by the Society on Ills subject, and which, it
adopted, uould, he was sure, go far to secure the prosperity and hap-
piness both of this country and the colonies.
A resolution, appointing* committee to frame a set of rules and
regulations for the government of the Society, and to explain their
•iews on the ►ubjtct to the public, was then passed, and the corn.
mittee appointed.
Other resolutions, relating to the mode of conducting the business
of the Society were then agreed to ; and, after a vote o: thanks bad
passed to the Chairman, the mezting separated.

The weather up to this time, with the exception of a
day or two, has hero yen unseasonable, the sun being seldom seen,
alai cold bleak winds, and much wet, greatly preponderating ; the
consequence is, that the coming crops are in a very backward state
in this neighbourhood, though the wheat upon the good lands looks
tolerably healthy. In many parts of Northumberland, in cold and
expowel situations, the crops of both wheat and oats present a very
thin and yellow appearance ; indeed, the oats, it is anticipated, will
prove the most deficient crop experienced here for miny years. The
hay crop promises to be very abundant. In Cumberland, the crops
are said to look well, but much in want of warmth. la Ilerwirk.
shire, the crops of every kind are stated to have a very promising
appearance, with the exception of wine fields of oats, which have
suffered greatly front the grub. In East Lothian, the present swim
is regarded as one of the earliest and most abundant grass seasons
em record ; and with s few exceptions, the wheat crop is in a thriving
state, but the oats have suffered extensively from the slug and wire.
worm. In Yorkshire, the crop of grass and corn, in heavy soils, are
said to be suffering much for want of warmth and sunshine.—Trne
Mercury.
The paper duties of Ireland produced last year
22,7401. which was, of course, a falling off from the
amount of the year preceding. The 22,7401. was col-
lected at an expense to the crown of 16,000/. and thus,
to gain one shilling in the shape of paps duty, govern-
ment made the subject pay considerably more than taco
shillings. There must obviously be enormous smug-
gling in the paper trade. If Mr. Goulburn understood
the duties of his office, he would endeavour to prevent
this ; that is, he would try adequately to collect the
existing duties, before he resolved upon imposing new
ones.—Morning Register.

;Iv IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 16.
Earl SPR4CER presented a petition from the inhabitants of
Croydon, against the infliction of death for forgery; and a similar
petition from a Wesleyan Methodist Congregation in the same place.
—Beth laid on the table.
The Earl of dIALMESBUSY moved for Copies of Returns
made by the Bri.ish Consuls abroad, of the prices of Foreign Grain,
in the Years 1828 and 1829. Those Returns were already before
the other House of Parliament. and lie thought it would be highly
advantageous that their Lonishipa should have them also.--
Agreed to.
Counsel wa• heard and witnesses were examined in Bailey's
Divorce Bill, and the further .hearing was adjourned to Wednes-
t next.
Lord MORLEY presented petitions from certain inhabitants of
l'iymoa.h. and from a congregation of Protestant Dissenters in that
t..aa, against the infliction of death for forgery.
Their Lordships then adjourned.