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The Margiii et LAM OWN moved for an Account, at
. the member of canoes hied at the Quarter Boaters Wad
tor the latt tie yeses, distinguishing Tythe cameo from others,
and those In which the plain bad been successful from those
la which he had failed. Also, for an Account of the rations
die Ecclesiastical Court of Ireland, during the same petiodor;
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Noble ?thirquis also presented a Petition from permits
with whom be was totally unacquainted. Their oases were
*ewer and Eurridge ; they stated that they bad discovered a
sew mode of Tanning Rids% and prayed that the Haan woad
biltitute an hsvi*yildo kbiAt proems, is order to ascertain whei
ther it would be dos rab so secure the use of their invention
for the pubic serving- 4. es the table.
. Lord SUFFIELD protested a Petition heel the Oswiecim's!"
accuplers of Land of the Ihndred of North Greenhoe, is the
County of Norfolk, and moved thatit be read aloud.—The Pe.
tWon Davin been read,
The LORD CHANCELLOR °hinted to its language.
asserted that the army, was only upheld to keep down thi
people: this was both false and improper. The only way to
make Petitions inefficacious was to deprive the bodies to WA/
they were addressed of the respect to which they were
titled. This was the tendency of the present Petition ; aud, if
he stood alone, be should ay that it -was one which ought not
to be received.
Lord SUFFIELD concurred with the Noble Lord in mach
of what had fallen from him, and di roved of the Expression
alluded to, although he did nnt think that the intention of the.
Petitioners was to insult the Leghlature.—The Petition was
then rejected without a division.—Adjourned.
NOUSE OF COMMONS. •

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A Person from the Commisainnen of New Churches pre-
sented an Account of the Sums they had expended.—Ordered
to lie on the table.
Sir JOHN BOUGHEY presented a Petition from an indi-
vidual, a Silk Throwster, of Newcastle-under-Lyne, praying
that no alteration might be made in the law affecting the 811 k
Trades—Ordered to lie on the table.
The Vegetable Powder Bill went through a Committee after
a few words from Mr. Lusonimoo, Mr. F. Pauses, and Sir It.
Wn.soo.—The Report was ordered to be received to..nmeemr.
Mr. LITTLETON presented a Petition from a Silk 'Mim-
etic in Staffordshire, against that part of the Navigation Bill
which permitted the importation of foreign Silk.—Ordered to
lie on the table.
The Report on the Recognizance Bill was brought up, read,
and agreed to.—The Bill was ordered to be read a third time
on Thursday.
Mr. F. PALMER moved for a Copy of the Information
against Ms. Hunt, for selling Breakfast Powder, and of the pro-

ocedlnp taken thereon.—Uracrea.
Sir CHARLES LONG moved for leave to 'bring in a Bill
for transferring the Duties now performed at Kilmainham to
Chelsea Hospital. The alteration, the Honourable Baronet said,
was not called for by any misconduct on the.part of the'Officers
at Kilmainham, who had conducted themselves in the most
praiseworthy manner; but solely because an uniformity of prac.
rice in the two Hospitals was considered necessary for the good
of the public service.
Mr. HUME approved of the object of the intended MU,
which would, he said, lead to a considerable saving of the public
money. He had been for three years impressing the necessity
of this alteration on his Majesty's Ministers; and' he now
trusted the principle of this 1 would be extended to many
other public offices.
Sir CHARLES LONG said, the Honourable Gentleman
was welcome to take to himself as much credit as he pleased ;
but be (Sir Charles) could prove that this change was in con-
templation before the Hon. Member ever said a syllable about it.
Indeed he believed that the Hon. Member had brought it under
the notice of the House in consequeuce of having heard of the
intended alteration.
Mr. CA LCR AFT said, it was singular that three years bad
heen'allowed to pass while this measure was under considera-
tion. Indeed, had his lion. Friend not brought the subject for-
ward, it was probable that three years more would have elapsed
before it would be seriously taken up.
Sir C. LONG and Mr. CaLcaarr mutually explained; and
leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
Mr. BENNET moved for several Returns relating to the
Cattle sold in Smithfield, between 1790 and 1822, and the
avecage price of meat in Leadenbali Market, for the same
period.—Ordered.
Mr. HUME moved, that several Returns ordered by the
House, respecting the Land and Assessed Taxes, be made
forthwith.
Mr. KENNEDY postponed the second reading of the Scotch
Jury Bill until Friday next.
Mr. WESTERN presented a Petition from the Owners and
Occupiers of Land at Rochford, in Essex, against the Bill in
progress for altering the Corn Laws. The Hon. Member spoke
shortly in favour of the Petition, and repeated his intention of
bringing the subject of the Currrency before the House on the
llth instant.—The Petition was then ordered to Ile on the table,
and be printed.
Sir WILLIAM CURTIS presented a Petition from several
Cloek and Watch-makers of London, complaining of the dis-
tressed state of their trade.--Orderdto lie on the table.
Sir R. FERGUSSON presented a Petition from the Ship
Owners of Leith and Kirkaldy, against the Navigation Bill.—
' They stated that the passing of that measure would be attended
by the most ruinous consequences to their trade.
Mr. HUME begged to impress on his Majesty's Ministers the
importance of the charges made by Consuls to the mercantile
and shipping interests. He thought also that Ministers ought to
direct their attention to the sums deducted from the ‘eages of
merchants' seamen. They amounted to a tax of 21 per cent.
Sir ISAAC COFFIN said, the merchants sailors paid only'
sixpence per pound to Greenwich Hospital, while the King's
seamen paid one shilling. In return for their sixpence per
pound, the merchants' sailers were entitled to a pension, after
they had served fifteen years in the Royal Navy—(llear !), and
it was to be considered that all merchants' sailors were to be
looked upon as belonging to the Royal Navy, and liable to
be called on to serve when occasion required. As it was known
a sailor could never keep £5 in his pocket, the tax was no hard-
ship, but rather I blessing—(Laughter).
Mr. WALLACE said, the subjects alluded to by the lion.
Member (Mr. Hume) were under the serious consideration of
Government, with a view to the relief of the Commercial In-
. Mesa He hoped, in a short time, a proposition would be sub-
limed to the House which would skew that Ministers had not
ireso inattentive to this important subject.
Mr. ROBERTSON begged to bespeak the attention of
Honourable Members to the Navigation Bill. It was his isms.
lion to oppofie it.
• Mr. WALLACE and Sir R. Fueussow mutually explained, and
the Petition was then ordered to be printed.
Mr. WYNN brought in a Bill to regulate the Trade to the
East Indies and the Colonies. The Hon. Member said the pro-
. visions of the Bill had been agreed to by the East India Com-
• patly, in deference to the opinion of a Committee of that House.
After a few words from Mr. Demur, the Bill was read a first
time, and ordered to be read a second time on Friday next.
A Message from the Lords here announced their Lordships'
assent to several Bills.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT gave netke that he would to-
ronrrow' move for the production of the Journal of the Illagis-1
traces of Sornersetshire, which on a former occasion had been
refused on the strange ground that it was a private document.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT brought in a Bill for regulating Irish
Grand Jury Assessments. The Right Hon. Baronet said be
should not press the Bill this Session. It was read a kat time,
and ordered to be printed:

CRIMINAL LAWS.

Mr. C. WILSON presented a Petition from Elachborn, in
Lancashire, in favour of a feebler* of the Criminal Laws.—Or-
dared to be printed.
Mr. DENMAN presented a similar Padden from the Mayor
and Corporation of the Borough of Camelford, in the county of
ConswOrdered to be printed.
Mr. LEYCESTER presented a Petition from Manchester
sad Salford, praying for a revision of the Criminal Code. Hey

dered to lie sit _
Dr. LUMINGTON prioento_Pedties, signed by 86 io-
dividoals, who bad serte-d on 11.. d den Grand Juries, stating
that the &schuss of their dutierhad boo rendentel pink/Wady
painful by the eaterity of our. Criminal Low. They added they,
mold not, for the fume, discharge their duties cinecieutioudy,
unless thatrity were tenmetek—The Podium was ordered
to
Thernh Honoumble Member presented several ether Petitions
to the Mine effect, front Ludliow,‘ Danbury, Wakelield, Maid-
atom, Gainsbotoigb, end Lewes. 'They were ordered to lie on
the table.
Mr. F. BUXTON presented a Petition from a respectable
tradesman of London, who had been compelled to prosecute a
person named Rives, for potting off a forged note. The Peti-
tioner stated that Rivers had been convicted sad executed. al.
though the Petitioner had Recommended him mammy. The Pe.
titioner stated that the execution of this person bad given him
considerable pain ; that had be known he would have been me-1
crated nothing would have induced him to prosecute him ; and
he prayed the Boum Mittld revise a law, the severity of which
was deprecated by the rnsiority of prosecumes.—.or&red to Me
on the table. •
The Honourable Member presented a similar Petition from a
Banker Of York, complaining of tie difficialty of getting witnesses
to come forward in cases of forgery, by which IL property sof-
fered..—Ordered to be printed.
Lord -DEERHU RST said, he had to present to the Hams a
Petition from the City of Worcester, very nonsisfietsly and re-
spectably signed; indeed, without sparageris individuals
who might not have put their names to this. Petition. be might
say it was signed by almost every person of canswinalle and
character in and about the city which he ball she honour to re-
present. • It prayed for a revision of the Cdminal Cede, and
had, in all the sentiments it contained, Ms unqualified apps
gene
Member of the House would fed more
than he (Lard Deerhunt) should, to lend his support
or unction to any measure calculated to sap or undermine the
established law of this land, which was the admiration of the
civilised world ; but because he would not p this length, was
he, in this enlighteded era, to. deny hihnelf the happy reflection
of lending his humble support to the correction of certain evils,'
that in darker periods have crept into the Criminal Code?—
(Hear, hear.)—Notuntou lege* 4741 a ustari ; but whilst he
was thoroughly impressed with this (Constitutionally speaking),
be yet hoped that the numerous Petitions to the House upon
this question, most important to the country at large, and tot,.
best foliar of which our nature was susceptible, the feelings of
humanity, would have due weight in the decision of Parliament,
favourably to a revision of the Criminal( Law, prayed for, as it
was, upon safe and humane principles—Heer, hear).—Tbe Pc-
: tition was then brought op, read, and ordered to lie on the table
and be printed.
Petitions to the sante effect were presented from the follow-
ing places, by the following Hon. Members :—Froth Royston,
by Sir Jos Stamm ' • from Shaftesbury, by the Hon. Mr.
Guaymas; from Chichester, by Mr. Hmetsson ; from Essex,
by Mr. Wanass ; from Doncaster, by Mr. S. Woottrr ; from
Bridport, by Mr. Scorn; from Ipswich, by Mr. 14.100A110; from
Sherhorne and Wincanton, by Sir T. Larrateamin ; from Here-
ford. by Mr. Pans; from South Shields, by Mr,
They were ordered to lie on the table antbe.printed.

AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. •
Mr. COKE presented a Petition from Certain Land-
holders in Norfolk, complaining of Agriciltural Dis-
tress. The Petitioners complained of the inadequate
relief afforded to Agriculture, by the measures brought
forward by Government. They attributed a great part
of their distress to the alteration of the currency in

.819, and prayed fora Reform of that House.

Sir T. LETHBRIDGE rose to corroborate the sen-
timents expressed by these Petitioners, by those of his
own Constituents, and of all the Landholders and
Agriculturists that he was acquainted with through-
out the kingdom. There was a general dissatisfac-
tion throughout the country, arising from an opinion
that the landed interest had not received that relief
from the legitimate source, his Majesty's Govern-
ment, that they had a right to expect. He protested
against the indifference, which he saw with pain, in
his Majesty's Minister's on this subject. He knew
there were many who supported Ministers, as he had
done, upon general principles, but who, upon this
particular question, could not in justice continue to
go along with them. He could not now continue his
support of them. They were pursuing a course which
must lead to the destruction of the country—(Hear)—
which must lead to the uplifting of one man's hand
against another; and whilst they continued in that
course, he would speak thus strong his disapprcba•
tion—(Heur, hear).—He maintained, that the bur-
dens of the country were two-fold on the agricultural

interest. That class ought to have some-more pro-
tecting measures—it was impossible they could go
on as they were at present. If some such measure
did not emanate from the other side before the Ses•
sion closed, he would come forward with a proposi-
tion of that nature. He was convinced that the coun-
try possessed great riches and great sources of wealth,
which could be made available to the payment of the
taxes, ifrightly husbanded ; and he hoped the landed
r interest in that House would stand forward manfully,
and support him in his endeavours to obtain that re-
lief they stood so much in need of, and were so fully
entitled to—(Hear).
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY felt himself
called upon to make one or two observations upon
what had fallen from the Hon. Baronets in conse-
quence of the tone with which he had delivered him-
self. He was glad the day was net far distant when
they would learn in a more precise manner what was
the Hon. Baronet's view of the conduct of his Ma-1
jesty's Ministers, in the remedies they had adopted
for the agricultural slistress. They should then learn,
no doubt, what was the best remedy ; at all events,
they would have in some more intelligible shape the
substance of all they were daily in the habit of hear-
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ing from the Hon.-Baronet, which, he would take
the liberty to say, was not always most appropriate
is point of time, and, without offence to him, given
rather in a tone of an inflammatory character—
(Hear, hear).--But he stood up to claim justice from
both sides, and he was ready to put the measures
already adopted by his Majesty's Ministers in compe-
tition with that projected by the Hon. Baronet. They
had accomplished a saving to the Public of two mil-
lions of annual expenditure, and I,400,000& by the
reduction of interest. And these had been done
Iti:king to the country the benefit of the. Sinking
Fund—(A laugh).—The Hon. Gentlemen opposite,
he observed, were in the habit of amusing themselves
on all occasions of the discussion of these subjects;
and nothing, he observed, so soon called forth their
jocularity, as some measure of actual relief to the
country. The Gentlemen on the other side could
hardly forgive his Majesty's Ministers for the relief
which they had actually afforded the country. The
Hon. Baronet, however, was not satisfied with what
had been done. He wished. as fax as be wasable, to

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of torn couldirtaised from 47.. s quarter to ;what
he would call a remunerating price, they would thank
him for his assistance. He supposed, that in his vo.
calmlary protection meant price; but in the opinion
of the country those words had distinct significations.
He was glad that they were soon to have an oppor-
tunity of coming to close quarters with the Hon. Ba.
ronet—a proposition in every way suited to the intre-
pid and manly character of the Hon. Baronet's gene-
ral conduct. They would then have something of a
decisive nature to deal with, as to the Hon. Baronet's
Xentiments. In the meantime, he protested against
the system of diurnal attacks which the Hon. Bero-
not had of late so unremittingly pursued,—(Hear).
Mr. J. BENETT (Wilts) said, that in consequence
of the Noble Marquis having charged the landholders
of the country with being in an inflammatory state—
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY begged to put
the Hon. Member right before he proceeded further
in error. He had spoken of the inflammatory ten-
dency of the Hon. Member for Somersetshire's lan-
guage, in the present state of the landed interest.
Mr. J. BENETT resumed.—He could no more
approve of Members of that House being charged
with using inflammatory language in that House, in
merely putting their sentiments into strong language,
than on the supposed charges on the landowners. He
thought the landed interest had borne enough, and
patiently enough, both in and out of that House, to
entitle them to speak of their grievances in strong
language. The House must expect this to be the
case. Petitions would come in stronger language,
and if rejected, as one had been the preceding day,
he knew not what would become of it next.
Mr. G. BENNET rose to protest against the often
propounded doctrine of the Noble Marquis opposite,
that the time of presenting Petitions to that House
was not the time for discussing the subject of which
those Petitions treated. In his opinion, it was the best
time; for they then were sure to have the last expres-
sion of the feelings of the country, through the Mem-
bers who were sent there to represent those feelings.
The Noble Marquis would, no doubt, rather wait till
he had his train-bands and battalia around him, when
he would consent to have a " fiekt-day," to use his
own expression in that House. He (Mr. Bennet)
confessed he cared less for the discussions in than for
the discussions out of that House; and therefore it
was, knowing that it would promote the latter, that
'he desired to seethe discussion on Petitions encou-
raged. It was by that very practice that his Hon.
Friend on the floor had managed to defeat Ministers
on the Property Tax. With regard to the jocularity
complained of by the Noble Marquis, they laughed
,at the powers of face possessed by him and his col-
jeagues, in declaring that the Sinking Fund was not
touched, at a time when he ha one set of Commis-
sioners beside him for the creation of debt, and ano-
ther for redeeming it. They laughed to see them
taking that by filching and larceny, which they did
not dare to take openly. He maintained that it was
the intention of his Majesty's Ministers, in spite of all
they said, to break down the Sinking Fund altogether.
Mr..MONCK deprecated the spirit of any measure
that might be in the contemplation of the Hon. Mem-
ber for Somersetshire (Sir Thomas Lethbridge) for
the introduction of protecting duties. The plain
meaning of protecting duties was, to raise the price
of bread to the pocr.
Mr. LEICESTER said he had heard of a very sen-
sible observation of our late Sovereign, which bore
upon the present question. Reviewing a Regiment
of Yeomanry, his late lamented Majesty observed to
a Noble Friend of his, "I like these men—not for
'what they have in their hands, but for what they
have in their pockets E' The pockets of these same
men, be it remembered, were now turned inside out
—they had no longer anything in them ; and be
should leave his Majesty's Ministers to draw the in-
ference—( Hear).—Those Right Hon. Gentlemen
groaned and moaned over a loss of 10 per cent. on
the salaries of Placemen and Pensioners, but they
had no such feeling for the suffering classes of the
community—(hear).
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT rose to offer brit very
few observations, and first of all he would express
his entire agreement with the Noble Lord, as to say
that the Hon. Baronet (Sir T. Lethbridge) did per.
form his duty manfully, in coming forward and using
that sort of language which he had used, and which,
if all had used, the country could not be long in the
circumstances in which it was now placed. If all
Country Gentlemen exercised their own sense, good
feeling, and understanding, and fairly made their
feelings known to the House, they would find that
the sense of the country was in unison with theirs,
and would support them more than they expected;
and they would soon see that the sense of the country,
in unison with theirs,would produce its effect in that
House—(Hear, hear).—He thought, and probably
the great majority now thought with him, that his
Majesty's Ministers—it would hardly be fair to im-
pute to them want of ability; but that they—acted
in utter ignorance of the state of the country over
which they presided—(Cheers).—He was, perhaps,
a most ungrateful person, for he felt no gratitude
whatever for their remission of taxes—(Hear, hear).
—He felt no gratitude for that which the country
had had aright to demand many years ago (Chars).
—How often bad Ministers declared that if they
were not supported in all the extravagance which
they pretended to be necessary they would resign ?
How often had they got their measures carried by
this sort of trick ? He thought the country could
feel, and owed no gratitude whatever for this slight
remission of taxes. Considering the changes in the
currency, and other circumstances, the country was
still more heavily burdened than at the end of al
most extravagant and wasteful, war. 'The Govern'
meat must, therefore, retrench deeply and effectually.!
He did not mean-to state now any idea so startling
as the change which the Government must code to
—he meant the change which must be effected in
that. House before the country could be relieved.—
That House must beseforined, If it should not be
reformed, Ministers could never consent to that re-
duction which was really necessary—(Heur).---But

country wire really'
Ministers, ltd.
revere
spared
industry.
ioble Lord
Baronet
but he would
Baronet's mea-

ores. He- was so far . --ish pro.
tecting duties, that the impression on his mind was
for having no protecting duties at all. He believed
that would be the best state of the law for agricul.
cure itself—(Hear, hear).—lf Ministers were earnest
in their desire to relieve the country; they ought, in
the first instance, to remove an evil which was the
result of their own operations on the eurrencv.:__
They ought to have reduced salaries for offices, td
have provided for public contracts and debts,
io have reduced everything to that relative posiouii
in which they stood before the changes in the cur.
rency—(Hear, hear).—They had often talked tj
restoring the currency to its healthful state. That
was a good term—(Cheers).—But what was gene.
rally a healthful state of currency might, in certain
circumstances, be the reverse of healthful. It was
not a healthful circulation which had been forced
upon the country when they were not able to bear it.
The Noble Marquis had alluded to Gentlemen on 1;:i
(Sir Francis Burdett's) side of the House, making
themselves exceedingly merry because the country
was relieved. He (Sir F. Burdett), for one, should
certainly feel merry if the country were really re-
lieved ' • but the country was not relieved ; and t1;,.1
Noble Lord, the next time Parliament met; would
find himself called to an account which he would
not be very ready or very able to hear—(Hear, hear.
The Noble Marquis had said that the Hon. Barone:
had used inflammatory language. This was not a't
unusual charge when any person opposed the mea-
sures of Ministers in strong and proper language
(Hear).—But if no rents should be paid, and land.
lords should be sold up for the taxes, the Noble
Marquis would do well to make up his mind to hear
more inflammatory language than he had ever yet
heard !—(Hear, hear).
Mr. PEEL said, this was not the first time he ha,l
heard the Bill for rest.ning the currency characterised
by the Hon. Baronet in terms which he thought it
did not deserve, but which, if it did deserve, formed
the strongest condemnation of the Hon. Baronet's own
conduct—(Cheers). Hi (Sir Francis Burdett) S' as
guilty of a gross departure from his duty in no: dr.
tecting the evils of the measure at the time, PI (f.
not warning them of the result—(Hear,* hear). 1: was
not they (Ministers) but the Hon. Baronet who h;,u.
neglected his duty. If-the measure was iniquitous
now, it had been iniquitous in 1819. Policy migl-t
vary, but iniquity was :invariable. Instead, 0;cl elem.,
of making a holiday duty of saying, " This is the re-
sult of your measures," the Hon. Baronet ought tc
have examined the subject and foretold its elects az
the time. But that measure had not been the mea-
sure of Government. It had been adopted mare una-
nimously than any measure which had been proposed
for a long time in that House. If any individual had
then claimed the measure as his own, there won:,l
have been a strong remonstrance from the other side
of the House. He regretted it deeply if he was con-
cerned in any way in occasioning an aggravation of
the distress which the country suffered ; yet he WAi
satisfied with the part which he had taken. Viewin.;
the precipice on which the country had stood, he
would now deliberately advise to rescue it from t!!,: '
dangers which pressed upon it, and to pursue the
course which he had advised on that occasion—
(h/ear, hea?). But another and a distinct opportunity
would present itself for him to explain his views oa
this subject. The Hon. Baronet said he felt no gra-
titude. Who required it ? If any measure of relict
was adopted, the Government was immediately
taunted, as if they wished for abject gratitude. GCO
forbid he should require gratitude. All be wanted
was the consciousness of doing his duty. But they
(Ministers) complained of the imputation of motive;
which they did not feel. They wanted no gratitude,
but they claimed justice—(C'heers). It was neither
necessary nor prudent to enter new on the questions of
Reform or reduction of taxes. When those questions
came forward, he was prepared to treat them accord-
ing to their merits.
Sir F. BURDETT said, the Right Hon. Gentle-
man
man might charge him with omission of his duty, it
he had not come forward on every occasion to expose
the bad measures deliberately devised and authori-
tatively enforced by his Majesty's Government ; but
that could neither diminish their responsibility nor
deprive him of the right to characterise such
mea-
sures as they deserved.
The SPEAKER was about to interfere, when

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• Sir F. BURDETT said he meant to speak strictly
in explanation. All the evil of which he complained
had happened three years before what was called
Mr. Peels Bill passed. All that the Right Hon.
Gentleman had done was to bare fixed the existing
state of the currency, and to prevent its going back
to a state which perhaps would have produced much
greater evils.
Mr. DENMAN did not feel the less inclined to
make observations because of the lecture they had re-
ceived. Last year the people were instructed not t 3
petition, and now Members were told not to discuss
their Petitions. He agreed with the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman opposite that they owed no gratitude to his
Majesty's Ministers for what had been done in the
way of relief; for it was not until after they had been
beaten by successive majorities that they bethought
'themselves of taking off taxes. But so anxious were
they of all the credit due to this, that last night his
Honourable and Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham)
was taunted with appearing in borrowed feathers,
and described as skulking away with all the glories
of a stolen leaf from the book of the Chancellor of
the Exchequer.
Mr. BENNET begged to disclaim, for himself,
any participation in that gratitude which the Noble
Marquis opposite seemed to charge upon the House.
He never saw anything since he had been in the
House entitling the Ministers to gratitude,
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY was not aware
that he had ever imputed such a feeling to the Hon.
Member.L(A laagh).
After a few words from Mr. JAMlllij the Petition
was brought ut,. On the question that it be read,
Sir T. LEIHBRIDGE rose-to declare, that he
did not believe any scatence uttered by him would

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