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_mss Mr. Doat'Eß Wei the mit wittrss, and was first A. Ido not ; but T. remember I went to the Office,
and from Cap- examined by Mr. WARDLE. when one of the clerks put in some questions from a
ed them down Mr. Dowler stated, that he was Commissary to printed paper, which I answered in writing. O. In
ny thing more Lisbon, and kad been in the Commissariat Depart- what situation in the Commissariat were you employ.
.ing themselves. I ment five years. That he had purchased his lace of ed before you went to Portugal ?—A. Assistant Com-
al2oo brought me Mrs. Parke, andthathe had given 10001. for it. That missary of Stores under Mr. Bullock, Commissary
know nothing I she had engaged to procure at for him ; that he-had General to the expedition to Buenos Ayres.
Several people no other possible interest, and had made no applica- Examined by Mr. BOOTLE. - -
I told Mrs. cation through any other channel ; that no one had- Q. Before you were in the Commissariat Depart-
because
,I was applied for him to any other quarter; that Mrs. Clarke' ment, what was your situation in life ? A. For a long
papers relative had procured him the situation by her sole influence; time after my father retired from business into the
toyed all the that he had in consequence paid her the thousand country, I was supported by his liberality.
rs. Clarke; she pounds as agreed upon; that he was well known to, Examined by ,the CHANZELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.
ble noise, that f many Gentlemen in the House ; that he knew Cap- • Q. Did you not follow the business of a stock bro•
desired me to tain Huxley Sandon and Colonel French, and saw ker ? A. Sometime in the year 1800 or 1801 Idi 3.
in her, which I I them pay five hundred pounds in his presence to Mrt. V. Why,did you quit the profession of a stock broke?
i' these papers Clarke, for the levy. A. Because I was urged to do so by my father.—Q.
this House ?A. 1 Mr. HUSKISSON put some questions to him with Was it not the embarrassment of your circumstances
ers from Mrs. (respect to the date of his appointment, to which he which obliged you to quit the alley ? A. I was in-
let, and which , replied in substance that be had possessed it about vited to stay. in the Stock-Exchange by some of the
1 five years, and hoped, that during that time he had most respectable characters% it, but my father would
conducted himself so as to merit the approbation of not let me.—Q. Did you pay all your debts ? (41 tall
; Ministers (to this Mr. Huskisson signified his assent). ;to order, whkh was over-ruled)—A. I paid my last
1 He proceeded to state that the office of Commissary Ishilling, and involved myself considerably afterwards.
i was in the sift of the Treasury, and that he 'could I Q. Did you pay all your differences ? A. I de-
take upon himself most positively to saya.that no ap- ' livered in all my books to the Committee, and as
plication had beet made for him to any other quarter, ; there were unsettled accounts in them with other
but that heowed the appointnsent wholly to Mrs. Clarke. 1 members of the Stock Exchange, I cannot exactly say
—Q. What was the distance of time between the how my Alifferences were settled.—Q. Do you recol.
money being paid to Mrs. Clarke, before you obtai,ned lect at what period it was that you left the Stock Ex-
the appointment to the Commissatiat I A. Ido not Change ? A. It was some time near about the failure
perfectly recollect ; bat I think it might be about of Messrs. E. P. Solomons and Co.—Q. Had you lent
three months. ' any money to Mrs. Clarke previous to your leaving
Q. by Mr. Wntrasnan.—At what time was it that the Stock Exchange ?A. I believe not.—Q. Do
Mr. Burnell notified to you that your appointment , you recollect the first time that you gave or lent
was in a train of progress through the Treasury ?A. money to Mrs. Clarke ?A.I do not.—Q. Had you
I cannot now distinctly state, but I think it was not any security for the sums of money which you lent to
morethalf a very few days before I received my ap- Mrs. Clarke ? A. I had not.—Q. Did you take any
pointment.—Q. From whose hands did you receive memorandums of the sums you lent to her ? A. I
your commission, orthe instrument of year appoint- I did not.—Q. You have stated, that you arrived from
meat ?A. I cannot exactly recollect whether ,-called 1 Portugal so late as Thursday last. Have you seen
at Mr. Burnell's office for it myself, or whetherl diej Mrs. Clarke since then ? A. Yes, on Sunday last,
rested a friend to' call for, me. and to-day in the witness's room —Q. Relate what
Q. By Mr. Alderman Comes.--I wish to know j passed between you on Sunday ? A. I lamented to
whether you have ever stated that you received your 1 Mrs. Clarke that this business had come out ; and
appointment in the Commissariat' through any'other I said, I hoped I should not be called as a witness be-
interest than that of Mrs. Clarke ? A. /fever. I have fore the House.
said I bought it ; but it was a subject that Inever Qby Sir ARTHUR PIGOTT...-Q. Can you positively
liked to talk npon.—Q. Was not your father acorn- assert, that Sir Brook Watson never solicited the ap-
mon Councilman for the ward of which the late Sir pointment for you ?A. 1 have every reason to believe
Brook Watson was Alderman ?A. He was.—Q. 1 that he never did.-.-Q. I wish to know whether you
Do you remember soon after receiving your 9ppoint- 'have always and uniformly said you owed your ap-
ment that I met you at the top of CockTur-street in ' pointment to Mrs. Clarke ? A. I was never forward
the Hay Market ? A. Ido recollect something of Ito mention the subject, but when I did mention it, I
the circumstance, but I cannot exactly say what pas- I always said I bought my commission, without men-
sed on the occasion. I tioning of whom.—Q. Do you' think that you might
Q. Do you recollect my congratulating you on I ever have said, that you owed your appointment to
your appointment, and asking whether you had not Sir Brook Watson ? A. Ido not think I ever did.—
obtained it by the interest of Sir Brook Watson, to The witness was ordered to withdraw.
which you answered that you had obtained it by his Mr. LEYCESTER and Mr. CALCRAFT said
interest ? A. I recollect your congratulating me on a few words on point of order; and Mr. WARDLE
the appointment, but I have no recollection that Ear proceeded to inquire of the Secretary of the Treasury
Brook Watson was named. 'What passed between (Mr. Huskisson) if he recollected any application of
Mr. Combe and myself on that occasion was very Mr. Manley, or of the last witnesss at the bar, to the
slight. He was on horseback and lon foot. and I Treasury to be appointed to the Commissariat De-
remember his le , parrment ?
the middle of the Mr. ADAM said a few words on point of order.
very few words passes Ilk. 1108 E, thought that, if there were any minutes
Q. (by Mr. :: i taint of the transaction at the Treasury at the time,
Clarke as pizcir t was not likely they could be obtained without some
length of years tdelay and difficulty, as in all probability they would
Mrs. Clarke give be in the hands of the executors of the late Mr. Pitt.
Duke of York via; Lord HENRY PETTY thought that any delay
ing money for vas to be deprecated, and therefore he hoped the
pointments ? A. Honourable Secretary would afford the House all the
that his Royal ' present information on the question proposed to him
—Q. Do you res by the HonoUrable Member that was in his power.
your appomtmer ' Mr. HUSKISSON (in reply to the question, which
postulated with TY was read from the Chair) said, that he did not recol-
actions with Cok lest any application having been made to the Trea-
don ? A. •It %VAs sury on either occasion. the usual course of such
expostulated with appointments was, that an application was made ei-
imPrOPrier.Y.of her ther to the First Lord of the Treasury or the Chan-
and Captain Sandon, why did you afterwards bargain cellor of the Exchequer, either by letter or verbally,
with her yourself in a way that was equally reprehek, and a minute was made of the application in a private
sible ?A. Because Mrs. Clarke's pecuniary distressont emorandurn book. It probably would not be found
that moment were very pressing ; and I thought that these memorandum papers had been preserved.
the appointment would torever Mere remained a .In answer to a question from Mr. Wardle, whether
in my own breast, which, bat tbr the eseriry some traces of the recommendation might not probe-
has taken place in the House' this evtniogo,tt .c.._.. Aily bly be found against the next meeting of the House ?
should.—Q. Have the goodness to` sekte tethillonse The Honourable Member replied, he did not think
what passed between you and len. Clarke when you the most diligent search could trace it to its origin.
expostulated with her on the .subject of her trAnsac- Q. Do you recollect Mr. Adam being appointed a
tions concerning Colonel French's levy.? A. I stated Commissioner of Lottery ?—A. Yes, in the time of
to Mrs. Clarke, that I was afraid the matter might be Mr. Pitt, to whom he was Private Secretary.
made public ; and I told her that she ought to have Mr. IIUSKISSON here -said that he would make
a regular payment from his Royal Highness, instead every, possible exertion before the House met to pro-
of being concerned in such transactions. She told me cure the necessary information.
that his Royal Highness was really soi di,stressed for Sir THOMAS-TURTON here, after observing
money, that she had no other way of getdag any. - that any further proceeding in the examination that
night (it was then nearly twelve o'clock) would break
Q. W in upon the solemn fast which was appointed to be
by Mr. WARDLE, I Watson held, moved the question of adjournment. The great
rWs, in. company ; tow, he {d,
-ander which the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. War-
th# "he' Sid. nevelt Wisyot (Hey laboured would, he also trusted, prove an addi-
is life. tile Was 1 tional reason for postponing the proceedings.
ain, and Mr. Mar. I body arose Mr. WARDLE admitted that he was much fa.
nd 'desired the wit. ; Q, Arc tigued, but relying upon the indulgence of the House,
ET seen himaeMrs, 1 applicatita. expressed his willingness that the examination should
told me that the ' to procure be continued,
and if she told lies, ' that he never MT.GRANT called and examined by Mr. WARDLE.
your situation Q. Were you concerned in Colonel French's levy ?
the Arrneett-GE- • fifteen sh —.A. Yes, I was. Q. Do you of your own know-
re of the third per. ; •allowar ledge know whether Colonel French and Captain
per man ? A. He 'NiTheit or, Sandon obtained their letter of service ?---A. I only
I
dark hair, shabbily per day know it from their own representation. Q. Were you,
pear to be an Valk ' 'your fat) acquainted with' the terms upon which Mrs. Clarke's
pen .the influence was to be obtained?—A. I understood at
—Q. Pray does the ' 13rook V first that she was to have 5001. or guineas, and That
ame was Finnerty ? tain the she was afterwards to have 11. 9s. for every man
at his name was, I procure raised. Q. Do you remember paying a draft to Mr.
Q. Did he squint ? j • Corn ?—A. I do, and it was placed to the levy ac-
not sure ; but if he 1 • ,
Q. E count. Q. Do you know what sums were paid to
old me that he had that you Mrs. Clarke ?—A. Not from my own knowledge ; but
d been in Africa and procure I I have heard Colonel French and Captain Sandon
Me a good deal t, was a trans say, that they had paid about 1,7001; Q. Did
and thereft French and Sandon ever complaio that Mrs. Clarke
General Pumps, he to have been appointed a Lottery corrueissioner had disappointed 'them ?—A. Never. Q. Did you
wear his arm in a through the same channel, but it was given to Mr. recollect whether Col. French eyer mentioned any
er it was the Chro- 1 Adams, Mr. Pitt's Private Secretary. thing about procuring a loan of 50001. for the Com-
that he belonged to, 1 .Exantin4 by Mr. Husieusere mancicrin Chief ?—..A., I do, Q. pid you ever talus
those thr:e papers. 1 Q. Before you received the appointrnen‘ were you smy step to raise that loan ?—A. No, I did not.
.—Q. Had he any t not required to appear before the Col,• ler of the The.CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
was the name of this ! Army to undergo an examination to ..., your fit- the propriety of now calling on Mrs.
V;
—Q. Did he know the tress for the office von were then e. to obtain ?
,lee, whose evidence, be conceived, in the present
,
No. He believed the ' —A, I was. Q, Do you recollect •' ore the state of the examination, to be of the utmost impor-
was a foreign; name. order, directing the 4ompttnilers to - Noe tape., ipitgOokal it would teed to throw a conspif
•

Q. Did you ever
'me this transac-
;upped with her
:r that the Duke
I A. She never
always said that
to oven those
id she state any

Je said that the
watched by Colo-
.1;1 by Mr..Greett-
thing._

Q. What papers
cannot remern-
Clarke, but she
letters to me.—
say why he de-
Le bid me destroy
►resent. She told
should probably
have the honour

Whether he had
at he took in this
A bill of £2OO
Cockayne, which
im.—Q. Why did
was necessary to
to his order.—Q.
any money at the
tt be had to him
le bill ? A. He
tr. Clckayne was
he told him that
Cockayne did
that he had acted
was very much

Did Mrs. Clarke
ing coming to the
id, the Duke had
ion, and was very
par ticular convey-
q the witness sttp-
.tst time he dined
.rkerlh.re wart- r°
sorncrit* &tiler the
said Mrs. Clarke
,r. Cockayne 2001.
the whole of the
Cockayne.—Q..
iction of a similar
abject of conversa-
the witness having
le had mentioned.
oriental were ? A.
nue I supped there,'
him. As to the
;aw the first time
:e the second time.
rentleman to wham
A. She told me,
suppose is now in'
he-clescribe the
man with the long
should not be stir-.
Q. Was.therelny
iou supped there ?
lan. Mrs.' Clarke
vrspaper, and that
It know now what
for.—Q. Did the
d with the other
tediately went up

, Mr. MELLtra rose
be alluded to as the
himself that the

Wardle) would
testion on that sub-

euotu light on the present momentous charges,..and
would probably give a new insight into the real
truths of the evidence given, and might tend to bring
home the charges against the Duke of York, or other-
wise refute completely the allegations Made.
Mis. CLARKE was then called in (half past one
o'clock) • she appeared much fatigued, and, in a faint
voice, said, that from the length of time she had been
in waiting, eight hours, she was so exhausted, that sl:e
could not possibly go through the examination of the
House this night, and begged to be indulged by
being allowed-for the present to retire.
The question being put,
The CHAIRMAN was requested to :info' mhertLot
the House were desirous to proceed with the exam.
nation, but were willing to allow her a chair, which
would probably enable her to support her fatigue.•
Mrs. Cintroca....•44 A chair will not relieve the fa.
tigie of my mind."
She was then desired to withdraw, when
Mr. YO R KE expressed his apprehension that unless
Mrs. Clarke was examined this night, the omission
might be attended with serious consequences, as dur.
ing the lapse of time between the present moment
and Thursday next, should the House conceive it ex
pedient to resume the examination on that day, she
nfght have au opportunity of 'iomnsuning with the
witnesses who had been examined, and of course
would guide her future testimony accordingly." If
she was not to be examined, he conceived it would
be expedient to consign her to the custody of the
Sergeant at Arms,. in order to preVent any communi.
cation with the'persons who had been examined, and
prevent her from receiving. any information which
could guide her future evidence.
Lord HENRY PETTY concurred• in the propo-
sition of Mr. Yorke, but submitted, whether it me*
not be fair, under the lady's alledged illness, to give
her the option of either being examined, or retained in
custody.
Mr. ROSE also concurred in the propriety ofgiving
her the option.
The SPtAKER then rose,* He conceived, under
the present feature of the discussion, that it was in-
cumbent on him to give his opinion, founded on his
long experience, as to the propriety of the measures
proposed by Mr. Yorke, and agreed to by-the two
Gentlemen who spoke last. He was not aware
of any existing precedent, which established the
right of the House to deprive the subject of li-
berty, in such sases as the present ; but although
no precedent did exist, the power was vested in
the House to exert their own judgment, as to
the steps which the subject matter before them re-
quired. Since the reign of Queen Anne, no occur-
rence of the sort had taken.place. If' a precedent
therefore did ever exist, it must have been of very
ancient standing, and not at all applicable to the pie-
sent state of things. He was firmly of opinion that
the liberty of the subject should not be too lightly
tampered with.
Mr. SHERIDAN was of opinion that it would be
impossible to the House to enforce an examination
of Mrs. Clarke in the present instance; and as the
cause originated in her bad state of health, he thought
it would not be humane to confine her in solitude for
forty-eight hours he thou& a promise might be
exdftetl from her, whieliiioW answer everi-itirpoth .
but in all probability the witnesses already examined
had every opportunity of conversing with her, so that
no good end could be answered by the measure pro-
posed.
Mr. WA RDLE here read a note from Mrs. Clarke,
stating that she was very much indisposed,' and beg-
ged to see him.
General NORTON said, Mrs. Clarke had said she
was principally fatigued in mind and not in body, he
therefore was of opinion that the 'examination might
go on.
Mr. CROAKER concurred in the propriety of this
remark, as did Mr. LYTTLETON.
Mr. ADAM thought, that as the eye of the coun-
try was on the proceedings of the present Committee,
they ought to be extremely circumspect in their con-
duct. and not allow any thing to p • forward to the
world which might give rise to invidious remarks ;
and as the witness had pleaded illness, in all proba-
bility the enforcement of her examination under that
statement would give rise, either from herself or her
friends, to some observations on her inability, fro*
her fatigued state of mind, to give her evidence in
that way which would make a proper impression on,
and give a fair bias to the minds of the Committee.
He therefore conceived it better to adjourn the eta•
ruination for the present, by which, if any Impression
was to be made, it most undoubtedly would be in
opposition to the testimony of Mrs. Clarke.
Mr. CANNING suggested the expediency of call.
ing in Dowler, the witness last but one examined,
to ascertain whether any communication had taken
place between hint and Mrs. Clarke as to the
evidence he had given • and soar a few observe.
Lions W ons from Mr. Whitbread and Mr. Wynne, lie
was called in, and some questions tending to,
obtain the information required- by Mr. Can.„
ning having 'been put, he answered them in the
nagative, stating that the only question asked by
Mrs. Clarke, was to know by whom he was examined,
and this question he answered in the preesnce of Se-
veral persons. He stated that Mrs. Clarke had been
very ill for a considerable time.
He wait then ordered to withdraw ; and it was
agreed that the Committee should reassemble on
Thursday next, to proceed with the further investi-
gation of the matter then before them.
The House having resumed, the several witnesses
who had not been examined were ordered to be sum-
moned to attend on Thursday.
Mr. DUNDAS moved that the order of the day
for the House resolving itself into a Committee on
East India Affairs should be postponed till Friday
next.—Adjourned at two o'clock till Thursday.
Dwpatches were yesterday received from Adndral COMMA NPp
which were brought to the Admiralty by Captain PINTO, of the
Ann/errs sloop, arrived at Portsmouth. The intended attuk
en Martinique had not commenced when the AcHATEs sailed;
and it is apprehended that the supplies which the enemy have re-
ceived, by the frigates lately arrived there from France, will
protract the defame to a more distant period than might
other-
wise have been expected.
Two Gentlemen arrived hi town yesterday from Holland,
having clewed their !escape in a pilot-boat, Mewling to ttiLir
report, the Slit and eed Bulletins of the Free* army in Spot:
had lama their appearance in the Dutch Papers hefore they can.°
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passed between us. t,
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SHERIDAN.) Did you -tensider Mrs. ti
ig great confidence in you for some it
? A. I undoubtedly did.—Q. Did d
e you any reason to think that t b
ras not acquainted with. bp recciv-
ngcd re
using her influence to' - u ap- e
She always gave me t - erstand I
Highness was acquai ' ' with it. ' p
collect whether it was bereie or after b
a to the commissariat, thst Lou ex- *
Mrs. Clarke on account or her trans- v
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s.• • •
Examined by Mr. BARING..
Tare you acquainted with the late Sit Brook
? A. Very slightly ; barely suffic*-Aly so as
to him -whets I met bios ; is—
ur father on to ' -; A.
rely slikluty acquainted- '•W* ....and that
ose frOssil4 %sing alder talk : • .•
you certain that roar fad* ; e any
ion to Sir Brook :Watson, ; uence
ure you the apHntasent certain
never did.—Q. What are the e ents of
uation ?A. In England, the e ; ; ents are
alining: a day, with some deduc.;. and an
ice for lodgings, and other - ,gencies.
fft foreign service, there is an extr • shillings
y.—Q. From the respectable situ ; which
ther held in the City of London, itipight hap-
at he got some other person to Sir
Watson in your behalf. Are ulte cer-
at he made no application ts:siii to
the appointment ? A. I•am certain' osalid not.
Examined by Mr. VANSITTARTic, 4
Did you ever communicate to hfriA.Burnell
at had employed Mrs. Clarke's iquence to
e you you; appointment ?—A. I peed did : it
transaction which I wished to have kept secret,
erefOre I was not disposed to talk of it. I was