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inning the regiments to recruit the troops'ofthe
line, Which, he laid, bad degraded the former fer-
vice itt the eyes of chore who were wont to con-
template the Militia with fatisfaaion and refpee,
and even reduced it to that Rate, that he, for one,
would rather at the end of the war fee it entirely
fupprefred. After treating there points confider-
ably in detail, his Lorditip paired to the forma-
-1 Lion of the Scotch Militia, which he averred rc-
fem bled the Englifh in no one refpe& but in name,
being particulafly diffimilar in the modes of the
appointment of the Field Officers, and ladling
their qualifications. The Englifls Militia was the
connitutional bulwark of the country. But fince
the Noble Lord, °praline to him, (the Marquis
Townibend) firft methodized it, the alterations
it had undergone, more efpecially by the late
miniilry, were fo great, that it was fcarcely
any longer the fame thing, fo metamorphofed
has it been. He then dwelt upon the general
repugnance which the Engliffi Militia Officers
would feel at Isting rendered liable to be tried by
Scotch Militia Offircers ; and particularly his own
feelings on the occafion, which he expreffed with
a confidcrable degree of warmth, and concluded
by moving for the omiffion of the claufe; with re-
fpea to which be was particularly defirous to know
the reafon why it was introduced
The Marquis Tow it s H END feelt as much for the
Militia in a conftitutional fenfe as any man poffi-
bly could ; but he was free to confers, that no-
thing which had obtained lately with refpeet to it
ought, in his mind, to degrade it, Rill lets to in-
duce any man who wilhect well to his country, to
fee it aboliffied.

Lord Hoaair followed on the fame fide, and
very ably vindicated the conduit of Minißers with
relped to the Militia, and begged the Noble Earl
to recoiled, that thee men tiken from that force
were all Volunteers, and were engaged only for
a limited fervice. He profeffed the high& venera- '
Lion for the Militia. With refped to the particu-
lar claufe, which was fo noxious to the Noble Earl,
be had no objedion,to its (landing over for further
confideration, in which view lie thought the better
way would be to dired the Chairman to report
progrefs.
The Duke of Mow limas took up the vindication
of the Bill, at Tome length, and very ably re-
plied to the different objedions of the Noble Earl;
he alto vindicated the formation of the Scotch Mi-
litia, which in principle he contended was ftriftly
the fame with the Englilh; the caufe of vetting
the appointment of the Field Officers in the Crown
was the fmallnefs of Tome of the Counties, two or
three of which were required to make up one bat-
talion; the qualifications for the Officers were
loser only in proportion to the value of the landed
and monied property in North Britain.—With re.
fped to the classic fo warmly objeded to, it was
merely fuggefted on the ground of convenience,
and under the probability that the requifite num-
ber of Englifh Militia Officers could not be found
for the purpofe in particular parts of Scotland ;
and it was confidered as moth conftitutional, that
officers of the Scottifh militia should be tried to, as
they never went out of Scotland ; and it was no
more than literally trying them by their peers.
The Earl of CASRNARVON replied, that would
not be the cafe if this Bill paired into a law with
Englifh officers going into Scotland, which they
ynay do, for they certainly would not be tried by
their peers. For by the Scottilh law, a gentle-
man there in the militia is qualified for a field
officer,. whole income m;y not be more than 301.
per annum, and the field officers there are all
appointed by the Crown, whereas thole of the
Englifh Militia are qualified in a manner infinite-
ly luperior, and betides that, they are appointed
by the Lords Lieutenants of their refpedive coun-
ties. It was therefore but fair in the Houfe, when
fuel; an inequality was about to be recognized,
that Militia Officers in England fhould be ap-
prized of it, that they might, by petition, be en.
abled to oppofe it, and be heard at the bar; for
which purpofe he fuggefted the propriety of hav
in g the bill recommitted. .
Lord Roomer (poke with a great degree of feel-
ing and Come warmth in fupport of part of the
obfervations of the Earl of Carnarvon.
The Earls of CARLISLE and RADNOR delivered
their lentiments, which were in difapprobation of
the claufe.
The Earl of CARNARVON made a few other re-
marks on that difference in the Scotch militia,
which reftrided the ages of privates from 19 to 30,
whereas in the Englifh. it extends to men of 50.
The Duca of Motrraosa anfwered his Lord-
(hip, that this arofe from locality of cullom in
Scotlania,
Lord HOBART, after what had paired, depre-
cated all further dircuftion at prefent, and moved,
that the Chairman do leave the Chair; which be-
ing agreed to, the Houfe refumed. Pregrefs be-
ing
.reported, the Committee was direeted to fit
again on Friday, to which day the ennfideration
of the Englifh Militia Subaltern Bill was pa-
poned.
Their Lordfhips then proceeded to the Order.
for takin into confideration,the Refolutions puffed
by the Houfe lath Seffion, relpedinr Bills of Inch°.
Cure.

The Duke of Bauman addreffed the Houfe at
Tome length on the general lubjca of Bills of In-
chafure, mid expatiated on the very great import.
ante of facilitating fuch meafures. lie obfervedi
that notwitbftanding the great degree of attention
he had bellowed on the point, he could as yet de-
vife no means, fatisfadory to himfclf, of carrying
his ideas into effeft by a legiflative regulation.—
Refolutions pallid by both Hnufcs of Parliament
appeared to him as likely to be more effectual; and,
rcipeaing there, he fuggelled is variety of expo-
dients,particularly a regulation foreontrouling the
Overfcers and Commit Goners, as tending to con.
duce to the great and deferable end be had in view.
His Grace concluded by intimating hi. intention
to bring forward Tome ipecific propolitions on the
Itibjelt to-morrow, on tvi)ich ecearion he moved
that the Houle he fu.-nmoned ; which proceeding,
after a few words tr.3tit Lord Ham:ryas ordered
to take place.
• Their Lord ps then difpnfed Gnome private bu-
oefs, after which they adichleimadll to-morrow.'

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The Report upon Koop's Straw Paper Patent ManufaCtory
Bill, was brought up, and avezd to.
The Hilt Members' Qui:heation Bill was read a firft dine,
and ordered to be read a feeond time on Wedraday next.
A Meffage from the Lords Rated, that their Lordihips had
peed the Coventry P-or Bill, and feverai Private Bills.
Mr. ADDINGTON mr,ved a new Writ to be lined for the Bo-
rough of Lymington, in the room of Sir HtarßT BURILARD
NEALE, But. who has accepted the office of one of the Grooms
of hit Majcity's Bed-chamber.
Mr. Lussitnoron brought up the Bill for the better regula-
tion of Public Notaries, which was read the firs tin, and or-
dered to be read almond tune on this day fennight, and to be
printed.
A Perfon from the Veterinary College prefented an Amount
of Receipts and Expenditure of Debts, and Grants of Parlia-
ment, whieh was ordered to he laid on the 'fable.
Mr. Cosav brought up a Bill to continue feveral temporary
Adts puffed in the Parliament of Ireland, which was read a
firft time.
Mr. BRAGOE brought up a Bill for eonfolidating into one
AB feveral provitious ufually introduced in AEU of Inclofure.
—Read a Brit time.
The trills Wine, Ale, and Beer Licence Bill was read a firfl
time.
The Report of the Portugal Wine Warehoufe Bill was
brought up, and, with the Amendments, agreed to, and or-
dered to be read a third time to-morrow.
The Mb Additional Stamp Duty, and the kith Diftilkry
Bills were brought up by Mr. Cocas, and read a firft time.
Mr. POISON gave notice, that it was his intention to bring
forward a Motion ea Friday next, relative to the Penfions pay-
able out of the Civil Lift.
The Repent of the Committee on the Grenada Merchants
Petition was ►rought up, ordered to be laid upon the Table,
and Copies obit printed.
Mr. LEIGH moved for leave to bring in a Bill
to render the Proceedings in the Courts of King's
Bench and Common Pleas in Ireland more benefi-
cial and effeetual in perfonal Aelions,Leave be-
ing given, the Bill was afterwards brought up by
Mr. Potisomar, and read the firtl time;—on the
Motion for the fecond reading,
Mr. W. Mooes objeeed to the Bill. He thought
the Public would derive no benefit from the Bill,
although the Individual might. He did not be-
lieve that the propofed change met the concurring
fentiments of the Judges in Ireland, nor that it
was of fuch a nature that they would with to fanc-
tion it by their authority. The Bill went to exer-
cise an authority out of the Jurifdittion of the
Court.—Judgment and execution could, accord-
ing to its provifions, be obtained againa at man
without perfonal fervice upon him. But the Bill
not only difpenfed with the neceltity of perfonal
fervice, and extended the jurifdietion beyond that
of the County where judgment was obtained, but
alfo accelerated, beyond all example, the facility
which the Plaintiff had of obtaining judgment,
without giving proper time to the Defendant. In
all there refpefts it differed, for the worfe, from
the Englifh Law. It would alto go altogether to
cut up an ufeful procefs by Civil Bill, whereby
(mall debts were recoverable in a fummaty way af•
ter perfonal fervice, and by a Ilion procefs.
Mr. G. Possomar thought that none of the ob-
jeflions Rated by the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman could be made againft the provifions
of the Bill itfelf. It appeared to him to be a znea-
Cure of very great public benefit. After noticing
the objeftions of the preceding Speaker,hauggeft-
ed the pmpriely of laying a copy of the Bill before
the Judges of Ireland, for their opinion.
Mr. Luau and Col. Maar' it defended the prin-
ciple of the Bill.
Mr. Aaeor expreffed his intention of aPply?ng
to the Judges of Ireland for their opinion. The
Bill was then ordered to be read a fecond time, on
this day fennight, and to be printed.
The Bill for regulating the Election of Mem-
bers to ferve in Parliament for that part of the
United Kingdom called Ireland, was read a firft
time.

A converfation took place between Meffrs. As-
SOT, TRENCH, BAGWELL LEIGH, and YOKE!.
Mr. NicrioLi.s fuggefted that great care ought
to be taken, not to give the influence of deciding
the Elation of Members to ferve for Counties in
Ireland, to Barrifters appointed by Minifters.
Sir JOHN PARNELL laid, that the Crown had at
prefent the nomination of Sheriffs, and that as
matters now flood, they bad greater power than
the Barrifters would have under this new Law.—
The Bill was then ordered to be read a fecond
tithe on Friday next.
The Hide Flaying Bill was read a third time
and palled, after a fhort converfation between Sir
W. ELTON'', Gen. GASCOIONE, and Mr. &taco E.
Mr. Roasow Cilia, he had withdrawn the Mo-
tion he intended to have made fall week, on the
Chancellor of the Exchequer informing him, there
was a Paper of the nature he wanted already on
the Table y but that Paper did not contain the
information he ',tithed for, being without dates.
He only wifhed for an Account fimilar to what
had been always prefented heretofore. He would
therefore move, " That there be laid before the.
Houle an Account of the distribution of the
a,g00,0001. granted to his MAJASTT for defraying
the Extraordinaries of the Army for doh, with
the dates of the relpeeive payments."—Ordered.
Mr. Jowas moved, that there be laid before the
Houle the particular items of the fum of 2,67340.
let forth in the account No. 34, prefented to the
Houle on the Rth May illot' by the Eafl-India
Company, as a debt dye from Government to the
Paid Company.
Mr. BIAGGI laid, that as this was a new fub-
jell, and Gentlemen connetled with the EA-India
Company were then abfent, he wifbed the Ho-
nourable Gentleman would poflpone his Motion
till to-morrow.

Mr. Jonas kid, there Papers had been produced
for three weeks, but as he had no with to take the
Houk by furprife, he had no objedion to poftpone
his Motion till to-morrow.
Mr. H. Avoinovon ftid, he was defined, in the
ahfence of his Right Honourable Relative, to give
police, that the Refolutions of Ways and Means and
Supply, would be brought forward on Friday nest.
Lady Abererombr'sPention Bill was corn/pi neck.
Mr. Jonas Paid, be gave his hearty confent to
this Bill as far as refpeded Lady Abercromby ;
but he had to lament the cafe of the widows and
families ofinanr gallant Officers. • From what he
knew of the difpolition of the Chancellor of the
Excheciber, he hadno doubt but the merit of theft
Officerk who bad fallen in battle would be regard
d by a provitinn for their relatives.
The other Orders of the Day were deferred.
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