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London, England, 1823-03-05 00:00:00

rllllMMiliallil..... . I induce the House to acquit. the Admindty of the'
Majesty's ships Carnation and Dotterel had been or-; charges proposed by the Hon. Gentleman. -
dered to cruise off Cuba for the protection of the I Mr. WILSON expressed his regret that misunde
trade. The Hon. Member then read various docu- bad taken place between the didaralty and Lloyd's. fie
I sidered the Admiralay justifies' birdie statement of the 11 • -
- assents and statements from individuals, to thew that
,Otacei, but he "add not., say be was Satisfied the trade Sad
• the Carnation had gone to Jamaica, instead of re- etkeived all the protection tit wtdch it was Milled.
maiiiing on the station for that purpose. With respect Admiral COFFIN said, the conduct of tie Cenci
to the Dotterel, she arrived at the Havannah on the Loyd's reminded hint of the frog and the ox. The Gentlemen
port till the lat Lloyd's woUld swell fin they
25th day of July, and 'Sever went out of hocit—(A laugh).—As an old
she
sailed I Officer he was
11th day of August. . When she did sail,ranchfarthe ready to declare that no Board had dons en
for New York, and with the trade winds she ran behaviour of .thesenerYGasentlemen ofthet
Lloyd'sHoarddhad beent raltT.
W.e. ;
away, most likely at the rate of twelve knots an cent, but what could be expected from men, half of whom were
hour, from the very teas which Were •infested with once without a coat to their back•—(Lengli.)—The Lord Mayor, •
ord the Directors of the East India Company, would lam mid-
ihe pirates, and reached New York in nine days : ered it no disgrace to wait on the Admiralty, but at Lloyd's
• and these ships net only ran away from the stations, they were men of no country. They insured. at that- time
hut they never thought of coming batk to them.— French ships at 25 per cent. The Gallant Admiral defended '
The Honourable Member then read a long memo- the conduct of Admiral Rowley, who was above a mean action.'
die not
honourable person was not to be found. Admiral Rowley
id
rial from the merchants of the Havannah upon the act under the influence of Plates. The charge against
the
subject, and a letter which appeared in the public Admiralty he trusted would be treated with contempt.
papers in October, .staring,• that of the 17 sail of Ja- Mr. BRIGHT read the Resolutions of a Meeting of Mer-
.
snaica ships then going out, four were captured, and chants at Kingston, Jamaica, in which they declared that the
the rest placed in imminent danger. This disproved' force for the protection of the trade was inadequate. The force
which had been found meet useful against the pirates were
the statement in the letters of the Secretary, that the
boats made at Nassau.
Carnation was off Cape Antonio to see the Jamaica
StrGRORGE COCKBURN said, the boats which the Lion-
ships3 round safe, and that the Doterel was also sn- lember alluded to would not do. The object of the Admiralty
gaged in suppressing piracies in those seas. There was to send a force to annihilate the pirates at once.
was another letter from the Admiralty, dated No- Alderman THOMPSON expressed himself satisfied with the
vember 23, in reply to ad. application from.the Met; explanation of the Noble Lord, and recommended the Honour-
able Member for Sandwich not to press his motion.
chants of Glasgow, which`said that the employment
•of fOrce had hitherto been delayed. Now he did pot Mr. CANNING rose for the.purpose of enforcing,
• see hoer this' declaration was to be reconciled with
as far as be was able, the suggestion of the lion. Gentleman be-
hind him.
attained, He hoped that after the discuuion which had already
h
• the previous one that ships of war had been sent thellon. Mover would. feel that the object of his
out for the protection of trade. He could not taken
ponwlas and would consent to withdraw it,as promi-
see the use of •shipi of war if force was not to be ing it to a division, however it might be supported, would *hew
that there was a disposition to throw blame upon the Coaduct dused. If it had been intended to convert these pirates,
hthiseeAwdhmirattlty,hafter the
l explanation that had been given. For '
by preaching and pray ing, 'he talon lit it would testimony
that
I have been wiser to send out a set of Nliisionaries. happeniopgato.beethce uondlybcemare Majesty's Ministers th'enfoinr
The fact was, that these ships had beet employed in tOwn, he was apprised of the proceedings, and bad agreed that
after the last letter they had no option to take—(hear, hear).—
carry in g specie for the benefit of their Commanders or
ills lion. Friends would also do him the justice to say, that he
of the Admiralty. At the time the letter was written had recommended all along the utmost conciliation, but when it
by the Secretary of the Admiralty, it appeared the was to be considered whether the Gentlemen at Lloyd's should
Society of Lloyd's were in possession of more Win- wait on the Lords of the Admiralty, or the Lords of the Admi-
?nation than the Admiralty. The Society were most ratty wait on the Gentlemen at Lloyd's, he thought it' more
anxious to satisfy the public mind that full protece plimper thath the Gentlemen at Lloyd's should wait on them*
was given to the commerce of the country ; but ieeping ueapro).f thelecformit naisursiltri2nl);"asajtillem"hadc(htuiltih,erttheathet
been
when they addressed the Admiralty on the subject, conducted was for the public benefit, and he trusted that no
the answer of that body reminded him of the tepul. difficulty would occur hereafter to prevent that good under-
sive language used b Richard the Third to a mes. standing
lwhich was necessary to the interest of trade. lf,
shouldun-
ee
Ideln .l
arise as to h
thee hoped
that
modein
:miser, just before y
before the battle of Bowel th Field— whichut• thoseey, ancuymmditnicualttr ons should
14 Out on ye, owls; some panted form might be devised, upon the principles
Norhirg hut songs of death and desolation? of politeness laid down in Lord Chesterfield's Letters,
There, take thou that till thou bring better news !" that would be satisfactory to the feelings of the Gentlemen,
whomia the Admiralty could have no inclination
.to :Mend—
The Honourable Member then said, the honour of
tcourse h
v a
n i,
a adopted
h
his Majesty's Government, as well as the satisfaction (Goveurigiin)e.nrlialfe twoaskntodnitittas'altpahtelcacti.onautnatahne
of the Public, required that every papef on the sub- order was subsequently given to our force to land even in'spite
ject should belaid before the House, in order that the of Spanish i
res stance. The Spaniards, who saw the reasonable-
ness of the demand, instructed their Authorities to co-operate
ficts and the conduct of parties might be known.— wiise. and it as sat se
thourforeeu,,bunta
aphrouteld to Government might
in cite presenthavefielt other-
lietherefore moved, 1e That there be laid before the w
House copies of letters from J. W. Croker, Esq. Se- state of Europe, reports .night havepihtdshat, )
gone abroad, attributing to
cretary of the Admiralty, to Mr. John Bennett, at this country the intention of occupying, for other purposes, any
Llo yd!s; together with copies of letters from the
place at. which they might land. Ile had said so much with a
view to exonerate the Admiralty from any blame upon that part
Commanders of die Carnation and Dotterel to the Ad- of the question, whte• I was altogether political. With respect
niiralty, on the subject.of the West India trade. to the other part, which involved the graces of politeness, he
Sir GEORGE COCKBURN then rose. He said, hoped that enough had been said to remove any angry feeling,
would
ttlie made_ the motion
he was persuaded he should, by a plain statement of himselfli
bec threabifirestGtoensetitean example of
pHeoubeg. humour, by
facts. give an answer to the IlououraVe Gentleman's withdrawing the motion then before the
motion. The Honourable Gentleman then pi oceeded Mr. CEOKER defended the Admiralty. and contended that
the correspondeuee with the Gentlemen of Llood'iwav carried
to read estiacts •of letters from the Capo:n, i f the
ou accordisig to the usual form.
the Carnation and Doterel, to chew that those ships Mr. MAURY Art, after a few general observations, con-
wet e employed at the pet iced in queition in the manner seined to withdraw his motion.
which the Secretary, to the AdMiralty had stated in The other Orders of the Day were then disposed or, and the
his correspondence with the Gentlemen at Lloyd's.— House adjourned at ONE O'CLOCK this in...mica. '
fly the letters in question, the Admiralty were in. LIST OF THE MINORITY
formed the Doterel was passing through the Gulf, wins MIND lii 51:1•POST or .111.. llclies O.I.'SOLUTION,
id tt the Carnation was crutzinf off Ca 7 An-

an Al'. iS ,pe
tonio ; and on this information they communicated
with Lloyd's. A day or two afterwards, the Gentle-
men at Lloyd's complained that the information was
not correct ; and the result of this complaint was,
that the Admiralty invited the Gentlemen at Lloyd's
to come for information and explanation. This was
on Saturday ; and these Gentlemen, perhaps wishing
for a holiday, declined corning on that day. A letter
was then written by the Secretary, desiring they
would come on the Monday ; but this letter, it ap-
peared, offended them, and they complained that
the Admiralty had departed fiom their usual course,
and treated them with want of respect, in sending
an invitation from the Secretary instead of,the Board.
The Board having not the slighest wish to offend the
Gentlemen at Lloyd's, directed another letter to be
written, in which they declared they had no intention
to treat them ssi 11 disrespect, and again desired an
interview. Still these Gentlemen refused any verbal;
communication; and the Board, considering they had
condescended far enough, here broke off the corre-
spondence, and put an end to the dispute ; and he
• trusted the House would leave it to the discretion of
the Admiralty whether they would 'ive to any indi-
vidual written or verbal communicattons—(Hcar).---
And he must say, that, although the Admiralty were
always ready to give information to any individual
who applied for it respectfully, so, whilst there were
the Chairmen of Shipowners and other Associated
Bodies to make that inquiry, it was immaterial, and;
indeed, unnecessary, to confine their communication
to the Gentlemen at Lloycrs-4.llear, laaar).—The.Hon.
Baronet observed, it was unfair in the Hon. Mem-,
bar who had brought forwarsi this motion to say that
no force had been employed for the protection of the
trade in that quarter, when there were the Carnation,
the Dotterel, the Swift, the Scontland others. It was
equally unfair for him to have said that nothing had
been done against the pirates. He would state what'
had been done .by these vessels against the pirate
hordes, as soon as the Spanish Government could be

" That it is expedient to inquire whether the present Church
Establishment of Leland be now more than commensurate to
the Services to be performed, both as regards the Number of
Persons employed, and the Incomes they receive ; and, if so,
whether a lieductiou of the same 6h41114.1 114 take place, with
due regard to all existing Interests."
Barrett, S. M. Glenorchy, Lord Ramsdell, .1. C.
Beecher, W. W. Grattan, J. • Ricardo, David
Bennet, lion. 11. G. Griffiths, J. W. Ridley, Sir WI. W.
Benyon, Benjamin Hamilton, Lord A. Robarts, A.-W.
Birch, Joseph llobbouse, I. C. Robarts, G. J.
Caicraft, J. 11. Honywood, W. P. Robinson, Sir G.
Campbell, llun.G.P. Hutchinson, Hon. Il.Selton, Lord.
Carew, C. S. James, W. Smith, John
Caulfield, Hon. H. Lambton, J. 0. Smith, George
Clifton, Viscount Leycester, Ralph Smith, William
Colburne, N. W. IL Macdonald, J. Stewart, W.
I Creeiey, T. Alarjuribanks, S. Taylor, M. A.
Craddock, Colonel Martin, John TachfieW, Marquis of
Davies. Colonel Maxwell, S. W. Wrbbe, Colonel
I)eCre?pigny,SirW. Norniamby, Lord White, I.uke
I)rnman, Thomas Palmer, Charles Whirr. Colonel .
Ebrington Viscount l'almer, C. F} ache Wilson, Sir Robert
Ellis, G. J. %V. A. Phillips, 0. sen. Wood, Alderman
Farquharson, A. Phillips, G. jut. Aryvill, M.
Fergusson, Sir It. C. Power, Richard TELLERS.
Fitzgerald, Lord W. Price, It. Hume, Joseph
Fitzgerald, M: Pryst, ruse Maack, J. B

AFFAIR 07 HONOUR.—A iumonr has for some days
been in circulation of a duel hiving taken place be-
tween two distinguished Foreigners. The following
is said to be an authentic statement of this affair :

About two years ago, the Neapolitan General Caaiisitosa,
announced his detarminatiea of calling out lieunmant-General
Wits:ast Pere, late Commander of the Neapolitan forces.--
Very shortly after the arrival in London of General Pan, he
received a letter from General CA lIASCOS4 in which,. after
charging General Pen with conduct injurious to hil reliutation,
he pointedly avowed his opinion, thSt military natation. 'rare,
in all cases, contrary to the principles of bonuswr4hat any change
in the Government of Naples was unnecessary—and still less in
that of Spain. The letter concluded with a challenge in the
usual terms.
To this letter, General Patel, by ditlatini his Opinion,
that every bee hate was indebted hr its liberty to maguey re-
volution—that the Spaniards weri now a pal to civil anarchy,
only, because certain individuals, calling themselves Liberals,
were, in fat, hostile to the Constitution of the Cortes—that he
' had mapheyed the authority which kb rank and his command
bad given him et Naples, to resist the despotism of a Govern-
ment, which, while it rendered the people miserable, was of no
actual advantage to the reigning dynasty—and concluded by ac-
cepting the challenge.
On the 20th of February, the Generals met—Count Sara
Rosa, Keolliniater of War of Piedmont, attended General
Pan, and N. Bun;Par, a French Gentleman, General Casa*.
cosa. The weapons were swords—and the combatants engaged
—but at the second pan, General Pares sword snapped that,
near the guard, on which the seconds interfered. and the combat,
as is anal in such eases, was deferred.
A second meeting took place ea Friday last, a few miles
from London, not far from Kew Bridge. Oa engaging, General
Caaaseort attacked with great impetuosity, but after several
passes on both sides, General' Pere seizing his adversary
sword with his left hand, disarmed bins I and, plachig.the point
of his sword at his breast, had his life in his power. Here the
affair would bare terminated, but General Cam/4mA, on re-
covering his sword, renewed the combat, which was warmly
maintained, until he'vras finally disabled, by a thrust from Ge-
neral Pin In the right shoulder. General Par; on seeing his
adversary incapable of Nether defence, declined availing himself
i a his advantage, and thus the duel terminated. -

brought to co-operate—
Pirate vessels taken - - - 19
Pirates killed - - -. . - 20
Pirates to be tried by the Admiral - - . 40
Taken by Spain • - - - - 17
Total of men killed and taken . . —77
If a contrary course had been pursued, not one of
these men would have been brought _to punishment.
So soon as these desperate men suffer death ♦olun-
teers would not be found to carry on the trade. If the
Hon. Member for Sandwich had seen the Papers he
would not have considered the Admiralty liable to
blame. On the subject of removing specie in King's
ships, Admiral Rowley had expressed a wish that the
merchants would send their money in merchant ships.
Their answer was—No ! If we comply with your de-
sire, it will ruin trade. It was then too much to say
Officers had a sordid view in the discharge of a duty
they were.obliged to perform. The gallant Officer
concluded by •.bserving, that he had said enough to

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