Star.
London, England, 1801-04-23 00:00:00

DUKE OF YORKS LATTER.

Mr. Ti ea re v•faid, he role to make a motion, in
purivance of M.! notice he had already given, re-
lative to a Letter written by his Royal Highnefs
the Duke of York, Commander in Chief, a part of
which had been read in that •Houte when an Hon.
Friend of his made a motion relative to the State
of the Nation. In doing fo, he felt f pleafure
that the produltion of die letter to which he allud-
ed retied on perfous who profetrcd themfelees to•
tally independent of the I ttc Adminiftration—an
Adminiftration which, in his mind, had conducted
Well in a manner perfe.slly :raw. The Right Hen.
Gentleman who had occalioned the prefent motion
(Mr. Dundas) had eflabliflied for hinifiell a no.:
office, that the war might be the better carried on,
by which he placed the whole management of the
army in his own hands. He gave the Right Hon.
Gentleman full credit for his capability in the in-
veßigation of accounts, where perfes e:ance and in•
dultry were necelfary, but denied his judgment rot
lative to the management of an army. He laid,
if the letter which was the lubjea or the prefent
motion &odd be produced, it was his intention to
make it the ground of a deep charge againft the
Right Hon. Gentleman. In the year 17941 the
Right Hon. Gentleman ailed for men and money,
and every other nccelfary to carry en the war, and
they were granted in a more boundlefs and uncon-
trolled degree than on any former occasion. From
he year 1794, the Right Hon. Gentleman went
oa increaling in his demand, until laft year, when
the number of eficaive men, at the difpofal of Mi-
nifters, was laid to be not lea than three hundred
thonfand. In t^9B the army was augmented by
drafts from the Militia, not of raw recruits but
well difciplined men, to which the &It Gentlemen
in the kingdom had been little better than recruit-
ing Scrjeants. There draftsfrom the Militia amount-
ed to thirty thonfend men, as the Right Hon. Ge-
ntleman lloutly affected, well difeiplined. The Taft
of the troops that were employed on the expedition
to Holland, returned to England by the in of De-
ember, 1799, and yet when the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman (Mr. Duna's) asked, on the 28th of Fe-
bruary following, for twenty thoulind men, he is
told by the Commander in Chief they cannot
ready in lets than two months for want of difei.
pline.—" For that, 1 fay, the Right Hon. Gentle-
man is accountable, and therefore I move for tit:.
letter of his Royal Highnefs the Duke of York.'
At that very period, his Nlajefty's Minillers mint.
ed to accede to the evacuation of E,,ypt, at a time
when it appears not twenty the.iiind men we:e
difciplined in England. No injury, he laid, could
he done to the_public service by the erodullion of
the letter. " I afk it," raid Mr. Tierney, " for
the eurpofe of punilhing him whom I believe in my
conteience has deceived the country." rie Right
Hon. Gentleman, he faid, had treated all
in-
quiry from that Houle with contempt for (even
years ; and by his uncontrolled confidence and
great means, had reduced the army to that Rate.
that fuch a number or men as ha then required
could not be ready for the public fervice without
two months notice.—lt would appear as if the in-
tent in reading a part of the letter was to throw
blame on the Duke of York ; it was due to con-
tinency and decency—it was due to the confecinence
of Parliament, not to (offer any man to read gar-
bled (ententes and paragraphs of any letter. Mr.
Tierney concluded with moving, " that a mciTage
be tent to his Majetty, humbly praying that his.
Majefty would be gracioufly picated to order the
letter of his Royal Highnefs the Dukc a York,
Commander in Chief, to the Right Ilon. Henry
Duntlas, dated the with of February lan, to be
laid upon the Table of that Route."
The motion being put and kconefed,
The Citmects.toa of the Excistaayta Aid, as
the Hon. Gentleman's motion was direded to the
produltion of a public document, it might be ex-
pelted that foam pertim in his Majetly's confidence'
ftiould sift. With refpeß to the email.% of his,
Majefty's Minitiers, it should be judged of by the
Hoak and the Country. He winked the Ileac tp
confider the nature of the Hon. Gentleman's
tion, which went to expnk what it might lot,
eefary to withhold from the public ete.„ or erxe.
pride= eiretunttanees, and in the,
of the Colmar. The Him.
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eel of the Army not being in a flate for the f‘rviee
of the coomtry. If not tit for the fervier in F.
brnary the Houle would take into confider
anon the cireumilances attending t:i:! Expedition
to Holland i—ln the month of Anglia, Sir Ralph
Abercrombie wok with him between tight :Lod
nine thouland men ; theft IM-11 w, re ...e:.,:nial-
trnops—the v44ll3ntet) s from the siiliti.t \Vela in
tkr ICiond eXl,CciltiOn that lanad at the Udder.
This expedition expccted, from whut was tinder-
flood to he the difpofition of t';ltt people of I Tol-
land, to receive and a:rurd airdlance ; and a. MI
as he could judge, th,re was good ground for the
expeclation. It was to be lamented we did not cue-
ceed to the full extent of our xtillie. ; not that, on
the whole, we had reatim to lament having under-
taken the expedition, or the great means we ufed
towards its accomplithmcnt. He wialud thu Houle
to reflea on the tit nation of the troops in Holland,
and the fatigue, they caperier«.d in eonfequenee
of the haduels of the roads and the unfavourible
fealon they had to encounter. From their eir.
vindlanccs, the army on its return to England, in
the month of November, could not he luppoled to
be in the mod healthy hate; and the frverity of
the isinter that lucceeded mutt have tended to

render the troops unfit for foreign fervice
they were required by the Right I ion. Gentleman
(Mr. Dundas). Great ineonvenieures, he Laid, at-
tended the ernhai kation tit the Helder—to his
knowledge. one regiment (the 9th) did not receive
its Itores and clothing for Once months after it
landed in England, and he had reafon to ..-elieve
many others were in the fame predicament, though
not proceeding from any wilful neglett on the part
of ate perfons whole but-Inds it was terattend to
the wants of thole regiments. On the 28th of Fe-
bruary, the Duke of York wrote to the then Secre-
tary of State, that the army could not he in a con-
dition for foreign fervice for two months, which,
under all the eircuniltances, could not be conflru-
ed into neglett of duty on the part of his Nlajef-
ty's Minilters. He never recolle6ted having heard
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Dundas) fay the
whole army was in a perfed Rate of difcipline.—
The Bill to augment the army from the Militia
did not pals until O.lluber 1799, and the fecond
draft of the Militia did not take place until after
the return of the troops from Holland : added to
to this, the addition made by the volunteers from
the hills Militia, which did not take place till af-
ter the month of January .Igoe--with fuch an ad-
dition of men, the army could hardly be confider-
ed the fame. After the return of the troops from
Holland, improvements were found neceirary to
be introduced—Rifle Corps were added, and great
praftice was required to complete the men in their
difcipline, four and five regiments being continu-
ally ezercifed together; this was going on in the
months of February, March, and April. It fhould
he recollefled, that when a requilition was made for
twenty thoufand men to his Royal Highnefs the
Duke of Yotk, they were wanted to fcrvc in a dif-
rant part of Europe, againft the bet troops of
France ; and this very fhortly after the return of
fome of our bet troops from a very levet e fervice,
in which the health of many of them billeted in
no huall drgrre. Hr could tint help thinking the
Gentleman had not eflablifhed his chaise of
• blame attaching to the Right Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Dundas), becaufe the troops were not ready
at the time (fated, and therefore he did not think
there was ground for Parliamentary inquiry, and
thought the motion ought not to be agreed tn.
Mr. \VHisLtasAn Paid he was not convinced by
what fell from the Right Hon. Gentleman who
preceded him of the impropriety of the motion.
He could not agree that ground had rot been laid
for parliamentary enquiry. Tice letter alluded t.•
was produced in juilitication of the conduct of his
Nlajefty's Minifters, and when
.called for after-
wards, that very juitification is raided; if that was
nut pound for parliamentarysvoquity, lie knew or
nothing that could be. One fit e f nwn go out of
or ice, and others come in and threw a chichi over
whatever is blameable in their condua. If any
paffage in the letter is not fit for the public eye,
the Right Hon. Cc/Ida-nat. fhould not have read
any part of it. The Chancellor of the Exchequer
has admitted, that at the time the Army went to
Holland, it was not fit to be fent nut of the %MM.
try—it was fit to co.operate with the people of
Holland, but not to attack them us cafe of refin-
ance. It was very hard that out of an army of
po,oco men, zo,ooo could not be found fit for
immediate hers ice. He remembered when the
Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Dundas) was told
the army was nut in a hate of dilcipline, his anfwer
was, that the army was in a perfect itate of difei-
plinc. His Majefly's Miiiiilers midi he blameable
for not getting better information relative to Hol-
land, previous to their tending the flower of the
Britills army to be expored and dilappointed as
they were, and difturbing the kingdom from one
end to the other, by the convevance of troops in
every fhape that could be deeded ; and yet when
they reached the place of embarkation, the officers
were unknown to the foldiers, nr the foldiers to the
officers. Allowing for.tlie drafts to Ireland, there
remained aBo,ooo etfeetive men, and yet moot)
men could not be found ready for foreign fervice,
without a delay of two months. The late MinifLrs
were continually challenging enquiry, but, when
the day came, they took very good care to refute
all fuch papers as could lead to it. lie was not
furprifed at their condo& ; but why their fuccef.
fors Mould refufe the papers his Hon. Friend caked
for, he was not able to define. The Chancellor of
the Eschequei , he obfervid, has not laid that there
is a word in the letter which, if expofed, would be
detrimental to the fervice.
The CUANCT LLOII of the Excitteivz a apologized
for troubling the Houk a feeond time ; he (aid he
merely role to fay he forgot to !late that 8600 men
bad been fent to Ireland.

Mr. Pirr (aid, the Honourable Gentleman who
rrtadc the motion prornifed, if the paper was pro-
duced, to brilig forward ferioui charges against his
Right Hon. Friti.d. lie had heard a great deal
of the fame fort of doetritte from the fame quarter.
in order to give the Hun. Gentleman an oppor-
tunity of bringing forward his charges, he !Mould
have two want/es in hi. Right Hon. Friend and
for they adm.tted that the Dt.kc of York

did fay the troops could hot be ready for foreign
Irt sire for two month: front the 28th of February ;
and tlle'Hnn. Gentleman might mike his acenta-
tion on this.hea.d any day he rlcaled. As to the
lad he pleaded ":.nilty, and was r.:.tdv to meet the
queflion whenever the Hon. Connie man
bring it forward. He law no nee:entity of incurring
the inconvenience of exposing the whole hold-
%lien the filet was admitted ; yet, in the admiiiirao•
lie could fee no ground for Pat-halm:mare Inquiry,
nn preflimption of hlame. The lion. Gentlemen
impofed fin the public by bringing forward litc
charges, after," he believed, hilt involuntarily inn;
poling upon' thconelves. The Mbjeet should he
confidered in all its points. The lion. Gentleman;
(Mr. Whitbread) has tithed, why fb tmall a num-,
bcr as zo,oco men could not be 'pared for foreign
tl:rvice out of co large a force as 300,000 men ?
The lion. Gentleman Mould reflect how mach of
that force Government had the power to
how much of it was already employed. It thould
be recolleCted, that in this number were included
the whole of the Volunteer and Yeomanry Corps ;
in fine, the whole ftrcngth of the Empire. The
Hon. Gentleman had forgot the men nereflary for
for Gibraltar, for Minorca, for the iVed
Indies, and all our other pondlions. The Hon.
Gentleman might as well include in his enimate of
our forces, the whole population of the country.
If the army that waS fent on the expedition to
Holland had been in the belt hate of difeipline, it
would be irrational to expea that it could he ca-
pable of being lent immediately on litch diflant
fervice as Italy, and againn the troops employed
by France at that time. Gentleman did not recoi-
led what had been raid of the extraordinary ener-
gy of France—an energy that was not much en-
vied in this country, and never prailcd by Gentle-
men on the oppolite tide of the Houle, butiwhen
dire red again!' this country ;—this fpecies of
energy enabled France to raife great armies by
violent and unnatural means, and put them into
a [late of high difcipline ; while Great Britain,
not violating any of the principles of juftice, pro-
ceeded in that mode which had been obferved in
former times. But he mull obferve that that Ar-
my of Referve, which was led on by that Hero,
who was fo much the objet of veneration on the
other fide of the Houfe, was not able to gain the
vidory of Marengo untill a period had duple,' af
. ter its formation, longer than what the Com-
mander in Chief in this Country had ft:nod to be
neceffary to complete the Army that was intended
to be fent to Italy. Gentlemen on the other fide
of the Houfe talked of the Army that had been
fent to Holland, as if it was one and the fame
Army ; whereas the fart was, that a part of the
firft Armament was not compofed of foldiers from
the Militia. There were three great objects to be
attained by the Expedition to Holland. The fill
W3S that of annihilating the Dutch Marine, in
which the Expedition was completely fuccefsful ;
the fecond was that of creating a diverfion in fa-
vour of the Allies of Great Britain, which had
the effen of diminifhing thole evils that would
otherwile have been produced by the reveries of
our Allies on the Continent ; hut the great and
principal oat ft was that of refcuing an old any of
Great Britain from the dominion and tyranny
of France, under which it had fallen. But al-
though, from eaufe; over which his Majefiv's
Government could have had no controul, this
latter objeCt did not fueceed, be snuff lay, that
having liad the means in their power of improviny,
the advantages held out to them, he was mud
Fetter pleafcd that his Majefty's Milliners did at
the time make ufc of thole Means, than if the.y. had
neglelted them. Miniflers would have been highly
culpable if they had omitted the opportunity that
',relented itfell at that time.—With refpeCt tothe
troops that had been fent, every body moll feel
thrt new and inexperienced troops mull ineet.with
many difficulties, lint fo much while they were
aetually engaged with the enemy, as from thole
hardlhips which were called the wear and feat el
A campaign. But whoever looked to the conduct
of thole troops, undifciplined as they were, would
fee that they had, at all time% when engaged with
the enemy, done honour to the Britifh name; that
in all tefpeNs they were equal, and in lime cafe,
fuperior, to thole oppofed to them. It was natu.
rid to luppole that troops might he fent on an
Expedition of a them operation like this, found
than to a diftant part of the world, and to a cli-
mate to which they had not been feaftined. He
was at a lois to fee what blame could be imputed
to Mirliners from not having, this force ready be
tore the month of April, itioa. Almon the who'
of it confined in drafts from the Englith and hill
Militia; the former was railed in Olohei, and thi
latter in January preceding. It was impotiihk
to itippore that if the kverity of the winter wa•
taken into emnideration, this force could I: pre•
pared in let's time than it was, to meet Pith at.
enemy as was then oppoled to the Aullriant iu
Italy. Upon the whole, he did not think there
was any ground fur an enquiry, and it might pro-',
duce great inconvenience.
Mr. Garr laid he had, on many former oeca.
firms, heard the Right Hon. Gentleman who had
juft fat down, in th,: Very fame tone of voice, give
the fame kind of challenge which he gave that
day, but, however, he always contrived, by Come
kind of dexterity, to prevent that charge being
made againft him, which he 21feet:el to be fo de-
flows of meeting. Notwithftanding the admiffion
made by the Right lion. Gentleman, he would
advile his Hon. Friend not to lining forward any
motion of cenfure :Tahiti the late Mininers ;
caufe it would then he laid, that their actnntlion
did not furnifh a ground for such a charge ; but
that there mull be pofitive proofs; and in thi.nian-
ner the ILL Id of office was to be thrown over the
late Minitici. But the Right Hon. Gentleman;
was not contented to let the platter rest here; for,
as if he anticipated the chaige that was t.. be
made, he entered into a defence of the military
adminiftration of his Right Hon. Friemi, and par-
ticularly of that part of it whip h related to the
late expedition to Holland; which, he Lid, had
three material objeels. The firft was the taking
paeffurn of the Dutch fleet. This certainly few-
ceeded; and, if the expedition bad ended after that
event, perhaps theta:inners or eonduttort. of th::t.

expedition might have teen entitled to the thanks
of their country. But after the force- under Sit
Ralph Abercrombie had accomplifhed this object.
another force was fent under the command f
his It oval Highnefs the Duke of York for another
obj,Cl which had completely friled. The Right
I lOnontable Gentleman hated this object to be that
of caufing a dit el !ion in favour of the Mier of
Great Britain ; if fuch a thing had been l!rioufl%
mom to be done, there ss As not on the whop
Continent of Europe, a worfc place for miking a
diverfton of the enemy's forces, nor a spot whet,. a
large nurniaer of troops could he cafier oppofed by
the inialleft poilible force. But he would ;A what
etre& had this divcrfion produced ? At the sere
time the Britilli troops were in Holland, the Rif
flans were luffering defeats in Italy from the
French army ender the command of Gisieral
Maflina. Another objeet was Maid to be that of
co-operating with the Dutch, who were the an.
tient Aliies of this country, in as to enable them
to (hake off the fubjeetion which they laboured
tinder. In order to have effected this purpofe, it
was neeefiiiry to have previoufly defeated the
French army : the landing of troops on the penin-
fula of Holland, was the wont way by which that
could he done; and it was (till more injudicious to
have fent troops which, it appeared by the
lions made that day, were totally undifeiplined.
Let the late Minillers, who charged Gentlemen on
his fide of the lioutc sNith contradlaiorr, confider
Low fat either he or his friends were contifient in
their deelarations; let him recollect, that, at the
-time when his Hon. Friend (Mr. Sheridan) had
brought forward a motion fur an inquiry into the
'expedition to Holland, it was then faid by the
War-Miniller (Mr. Dundas), that no blame could
be attached to l'slinifters for the failure of the cape-'
ditiOn. That they had fent a fine and well dila.
plined army thither. Declarations were made at
the finite time, and proofs adduced, that the lois
fuftained by the Britifb- forces was very trifling:
but now it was confeffed that, notwithfianding that
trifling lots fuflained by the fine army fent to Hol-
land, it was admitted that there were not troops
fuflicient to fend on the fervice in which they
were required in Italy; and that they were not
fit for any 'Hata operation. When Minifiers
had been, at the time of his Hon. Friend (Mr.
Sheridan's) motion, charged with fending raw
and undifeiplined men upon that expedition, it
was anfwerod that they had been all taken from
the Militia, that contequently they could not
be confidered as recruits, but as foldiers who
had learned military Jifcipline ; and, in ftiort, that
they were as fine a body of troops as ever left the
country. But it was very evident from the words
of Sir Ralph Abercrombie, that he did not con-
fider this force as qualified for active fervice. • The
Members of Oppofition were attacked. by the
Right Hon. Gentleman, when he was making allot.
lions to the French Government, for their applaufe
of meafures v.hich were never applauded but when
direeted this country. He contended that
this charge was unfounded in fall. In no part of
that Houle had the various initances of tyranny.
which took place in France been more feverely
'condemned and reprobated than In the part where
he and his friends fat ; and there was tic) man in
the Houle who exprelled more than himfelf the
abhorrence he felt at thole aels which altered and
deftroyed the original principles of the French Re-
volution. But then the Members of Oppofition
were charged with having an extraordinary venera-
tion for Bonaparte. He certainly conlidered hint
as a man of as great talents as any other man in
the world : there was no man in modern times who
had gained more important vielories—but.before
any thing more could be faid in his praife, it was
necelfary to wait until he had gained a victory over
his love of power, and lhould reftore France to
that freedom which it was intended (he (hould
znjoy at the tittle of the Revolution. But compare
,lie exertions of Bonaparte with the exertions of
thole who held his power in contempt at the time
he had made overtures of peace to this Country ;
and then he would appear to polf;fs a manifefl
superiority. Ulna was to be moll admired in this
great man, was the moderate ufe he had already
made of his power. Had he tiled any of thole
means for railing and dilciplining a military force
which the Itigla Honourable Gentleman alluded
zo with loch feverity, he would never have foe.
eceded as he had done : the great fuccefs of his
exertions proceeded from his having revived the
enthufialm of I ranee; without that he never could
have railed his Army of Referve ; which lie did in
a much lhoi ter time than was alferted by the Right
Hon. Gentleman. Now as to the point before the
Houle, the only queftion was, whether there was
my Parliamentary ground laid for the produCtion
of the Paper moved for ? His Hon. Friend corn-
rla:ned that after all the fonts that had been la-
rded by that Houle to enable Government to
carry on the moll extenfive operations, no exertion
had been made—that Minifiers either remained in-
:alive, or were carrying on contradiftory move.
ments, until the enemy had firuck the fatal bloW
againtl the Allies : lie wanted therefore fuch a do-
cument as could e.onliittite a foundation for a
charge againft the late Minifters for their rnifcon.
duet ; or that fhould point out to the Houle and
the Public where the blame actually lay ; for after
Lthe declaration that had been made by the Corn.
hander in Chief, it was moll evident that blame
relied foniewhere. The very fiatements made
that day by Gentlemen on the other fide of the
Houle, proved that there was ground for a ferious
charge againft them : and particularly the eircum-
fiances hated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
of baggage being detained, and of the troops not
being able to get their cloathing in proper time.—
Such an inttance of miiinanagement on the part
of Minitters, the Houle was bound to inquire into.
As to whether the Paper ought to be produced or
not, if the Right Hon. Gentleman would fay that
it contain:] other matter which ought nut to be
made known-to the public, then his Hon. Friend
pair. Ti.:rney ) would move only for fuch parts of
at as had been read in that Houfe. He would alk,
what right the Late Secretary of State had to read
that letwr, or any part of it to the 'Houle? lie
had no right to produce it, but as he did, the Houle
was bound to go into an iospiry thatilould tl"

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.tatt.the litit)jtai 1 and vrt incr'uvcnience cru.li
atte•produetiort of the part that hal hei•:.
ready road.. IVlictlicr his 40..11 1 ligloici;ihr t••
inathtt rin Chid had beial guilty cif a
tnilinanagentetit oldie artily, or t 1::. late
01 State, the" Houfe was equally bound rn tm
Lc) er•quiry, becattil, a let iuus Large wJs ~•
blilbcd.

J.nrd FOP. KS I S7,N r c'Jrrnr:Cd the rnr-ition,
half, ix- laid, f the militia °tricot:l, ua.o had hip. •
up all'their titer and attention to d,
recruiting for, and difcipliiiing fire nalitia,
were afterwards to be told that the niiiiti3
were•unfit fur ferrice.

Sir Janes Sti:erAin teas aA.;il-11
motion; bee:lute hr eironfidered
thr to -lave been-a confidential leoer, that :
not to lie produced to the public.
Colon 1 I Tort adverted to what hai f:•-•
• Mr. Grey retiseethig the expretllo h in Sir
Abereronibie'a letter on the taki:• the
with regard to the Militia, and laid that that I.rdt
of men to whom Sir Ralph Abercrntiffi:e tele.
did not form any pare of the ernbaikati.in
failed with Sir Ralph Abercrombie, but. airlrfl
on the 9th, and was employed on the lath, f•
that the ftatement of the Charicellor sd the 1.1.
• chequer, relpe &Mg the nature oldie Force w1.•,14
failed with Sir Ralph Aber cromhie was 1161 con
• Mr. nous-due contended, that when any prat
of a Papa was read in debate for the pofes
jollification, the whole ought to lie Froduceel
the Houle, unlrfs ftrong grounds -were fh;:wn
the contrary. He would afk, betides, whetherit
was regular or proper fur any Hon. Member out
of office• to produce Papers in his jullification
whirls were nut before the Houle ? lf, however,
the Right Hon. Gentleman (71te Chancellor of tlx
Eschequer) would illy, that any public danger
could arife from the produbion of the Paper is
queffion, he would give it his negative, but other.
wife he mutt fuppert the motion.
. Mr. NICHOLLS thought that two fans w-cre t.a•
verfally admitted, that in February, iftco, WC Lai
not 20,000 men fit to fend on a foreign eipedi.
. notwithflanding the great number of the
arrnyi, and that the army was then deplorably
deficient in ditcipline. If tilde were not grounds
for inquiry, he knew not what would be ellerme3
fuch by the Houle. It inquiry seas not to be
granted on a cafe fu &sang as this, he conceived it
was needlefs to pretend to preferve this right when
the-fpirit of it was deftroyed.
The SECRETARY AT Wale admitted the tilule
military force of the kingdom •to have been
300,000 men, but independent of the force re-
quired for internal defence, and that which was tie-
cellarily fent to Ireland for the defence of that
country, it fhould he recollefled that we did not
Rand a very fair chance of military fuccels: fo
fmall a force being kept up in times of Peace that
it was impoffible to prepare in a thort time a large
army in a Rate for war. He thought no blame
Was to be imputed to the Commander in Clad' in
the inftanee alluded to, neither were ItieNlajefty's
late Ministers to • be blamed'for the Expedition to
Holland, which he confidered as highly mcritort•
ous. • It was very true that great part of the -arlity
Punt .to Holland was unfit to encounter rZ:tetan
troops, but it was to be recolleCted that very few
French troops could be at that time in Holland,
and his Maje,fty's late Minders were perfeetly
right in at leaft taking the change of recording
that country from the power of its invaders. The
Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) had Rated
no parliamentary ground for the produCtion of
the Letter, and he would never content to admit,
that an intimation of founding upon it a charge
againtt any perfuns whatever was a fufficiea
kround fur the produCtion of a Paper.
General TAR LETON laid much of the milltary
misfortunes of the country was to be imputed to
the delay wiling from the Right Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Dundas) having reinforced the Arnie out
of the Supplementary Militia, when he to
have dune it from out of the Ohl Militia, to‘uldcli
lie was obliged at Lift to retort. Ile thought the
Expedition to Holland r:dh, and that it only tend-
ed to rivet.falter the fuliji.Ction of that country to
the French Republic. Ile confidered Officers
leering under the ?relent Adminittration,as bound
to tote for the relent motion, to thew their con.
denioation of the highly detrimental prattive t
quoting garbled and partial ettraits of knots.
without giving the whole of what WAS to quoted.
It teemed, he thought, extraordinary, that ha
Majelly's prefent Minitters, for whom he had a
higher tripe& than tot the late Miniltcrs, fhoul4
,attempt to throw a shield over their predectfler.
in office. lie thought the motion ought to he
agreed to, fince there might be paflages in the
letters, when introduced, which risightttendl ma.
terially to explain that part of it which.lnui been
quoted by the Right lion. Gentleman.
Colonel Gaosrlsoo. was ag.tittft the motion.
General Tait trot; explained.
Mr. Liostaaa 14'e:tainted the intention of making
infittuation againft any officer employed in his
fei-vice, and thought. before Gentle.
men charged him with making any loch infinua-
tions, they thould bring better proof of it. titan
they had already dune. Ile was-at a lots how to
meet the various and contradidary modes which
had been called in to fupport the motion, and
which embraced tubjeCts wholly extraneous to the
queftion before the licyjfe. Much had been laid
relative to the Expeartion to Holland, and the
Militia, which had nothing to do with the preten;
dilcuflion, 'and he thouLl the:dare not
thole fulajats. No blame was, however, to be
imputud to the Commander in Chief, and that
could on that (core be no übjeaion to the pro-
JuCtion of the letter, finee to the ability anti at-
tention with which that illuftrious Commander had
executed the office entrulted to him by his 1t..)41
Father, he (Mr. Dundas) was ready to bear the
firungeft and mull positive teltimony. It feerPtda.
according to fume Hun. Gentlemen, that it was
no part of his duty to form plans of Miilitary Es:
lhould have thought this the pnnei-
, pal part of his duty; but nu, fey thofc Hon.
Gentlemen, you mutt look only to detail,- you
mud tic whether the (patterdaThts arc clean—
' whether the Cants want tuttons; or 1h mutkeu

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want locks. ne, however, had concaved it to
be his duty to confider is what way the war could
be bell carried on for the benefit of the country.—
He never wifhed to inftify himfelf at the expence
of others, but he would affect, that there had been
no more delay in the Expedition, than was necef-
fary to prepare the troops for their deained duties.
As to the produdion of Letters or Papers, he
would at any time rather (utter himfelf to be ca-
lumniated, than call for a document, the produc-
tion of which might he injurious to the public far.
vice, though it might anfwer the purpofe of his
juftification. He Frotelted azaina the prefent
motion.
General TARLETNZ again explained.
Mr. GEORG! PONSCINDY laid the querlinn was,
whether the whole letter fhould he rTad, from
which certain patages had been read in juilitica-
Zinn of the Hon. Gentleman I From thence arofe
a charge againft the Hon. Gentleman of employ-
ing a force in Holland, and not one in the Medi-
terranean, until it was too late. When this charge
was &ft made, the Hon. Gentleman faid that the
prefent was the moll glorious war in which Eng-
lane was ever engaged. He did not know what
conviction the afrertion had produced ; but cer-
tainly, if it were the molt glorious war, his (=cell.
for mall admit that he mull make the moll gin.
rious peace. Now, on the fubjeet of the letter,
be did contend that it was contrary to equity and
juftice to read part and not the whole, where
charges were made againfl individuals, and that
was the prefent cafe, it being pofitively Rated that
fuch was the indifcipline of the army it could not
embark for two months. As to the advantage
which the continental armies were alledged to pot,
fes over the Britith; he never knew that it was by
long marches an army learned difcipline—but, cup
pofing it to be the fall, it only went to thew that a
Unifier of England fhould be more careful, and
more early, in preparing a military force. The
force in queßion was connected with two expe-
ditions, neither of which had proved fortunate. In
the one it was to receive the furrender of the Dutch
arms. Now any force, however bad, would be
fuffieient for this. Its adequacy here did not de-
pend on the quality of the force, but the accuracy
a the information, which Rated, that the Dutch
would lay down their arms. But what would be
hid, when it turned out, that the Dutch were as
ready, and as well difciplined for refinance, in.
Read of furrender, as the French ? Was the force
Pent adequate then to all its objefts ; or, were all
thefe objects only a retreat, and an ignominious
capitulation? With regard to the other erpedition,
how, or when, did the Hon. Gentlemen calculate
upon the effect of the Ruffian and Marian arms
au Italy ? It was plain, that he calculated upon
their fuccefs ; but what fort of a Minifter was he,
who calculated upon fuccefs, and, when &appoint-
ed, had no means to repair difafter Did it ful.
low, that there was no part of our army from
which a difpofable force might be taben, except
the identical part alluded to ? The Right Hon.
Gentleman had Paid that all t.:e trio2s of the line
had been fent to Ireland, to defend it during the
loot tighta. On the allth of February the long
tighu were pretty well over, and with them the'
danger of Ireland, and tilde well dfciplined
troops might have failed from Cork with as much
advantage as from this country: As to the cha.
rater of the Commander in Chief; the true way to
give it due haltre and eflimation, would be to pro-
duce the letter. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Dundasrmight think it contained no reflation on
that illuttrious perfonage, or himfelf, but others
might be of a different opinion, and doubt and fa.
'icon would remain as long as the letter fhould be
withheld. Moreover, fourteen months had elapfed
lance the letter ,was written; it could, therefore,
have no emanation with prefent affairs. There was
no power on the Continent, at war with France,
that could call on us for a fupply, and with
whofe interefts the difclofure of the contents could
antertere.—On thefe grounds, therefore, and par-
ticularly as the Commander in Chief could not
jußify himfelf in that Houle, not being a member
of it, he thought they were bound to protect his
tharater with the greater care, and to call for
the produdion of the paper for that purpofe.
Colonel PORTER (poke a few words in fcpport
.f the motion, and the titießion being then loudly
balled for, the Houle divided.—Ayes 45, Noes is t.
Majority againft the motion to6.—Adjourned.

LONDON.

THURSDAY, APRIL 23.

PRICE OF-STOCKS THIS DAY 'AT ONE O'CLOC K :
Coofols 39160—f0r account 6cl-,Orialturn Si i Si.
511159...-Okl 5 per Cent. 97—New ditto w
ICE OP STuCRE YESTERDAY :
Ster.k PR 5
Cent. Loy. 91 93
3 Per Caw Itad.s9 $lll 39 Lori Atm. ri 17 i5-t6 IS
6c4 Shore Ann. 5 T-16i
4pa Cool. Cosi 77 t Oniniurn St 71 II
pa C. Navy 93H. Cad. for May 604 39i 601

We are happy to annuunce tharthe Paris Jour-
nal.* of the rsoth (one day later than thufe re•
ceived yeilerday,) do not confirm she report of
General Aasacaoseats having been defeated.
The Official Paper (the Mosiunr,) is wholly
filent refpeeting Egypt, which would hardly have
ken the cafe had the French Government been in
PuilefGon of any fuch intelligence ; and the Ckfdo
Cie, !peaking of the news of the day before,
rays it needs confirmation.

The latter paper lista a piece of intelligence of
Gene moment 6, It appeara," fays that Journal,
" that Peace is very far Advanced between France
end the Porte, if not already concluded."
An article quoted in theie papers frum a Pruf.
fan Journal, and printed can Prieriktie. is brav-
ing of particular notice. It is as follows :
LOWIR RAMS, Maims p.—Several Letters
from the Nail annuunce, in a very poGzive mut-
ant tbs death of a veallciace. Thq add, that

the Political Sy item ,r r pr,l,al,ly to:
be thaken by this uuespeaed evtnt, as his
edrOr has already confirmed the tabil.ting ar-
rangements."
MOREAU is loon expeEted at rat is.

The foregoing are the only a..-tides worthy of
notice in the Paris Pipers of the 19th.

His MA/arry yefterday, accompanied by the
Q2stm and PRINCESSES, tcuk an airing in Kew
GArdens.

A Council was ye flerday held at the Secretary
of State's Office. Several of the perfuns act:acd of
feditious pratlices were brought up to be examined.
Our Court has loft no time in renewing its Alli-
ance with the new Sovereign of Ruirm. As form
as the death of the Emperor PAUL was known in
England, orders were fent out to Mr.
the Secretary of Embalfy at Berlin, to repair to
Peteriburgh ; and on Monday evening M. de
BOISSY, a Gentleman well known for hts talents,
and an Officer in the regiment de Areuren, left
town with difpathes to Count de PAHLEN, the
Prime Miniller of the Emperor, who is personally
attached to M. de Boissy.

Mr. CASSAMAJOR is to fucceed Mr. GARLIKS, as
Secretary of Legation at Berlin.
The account in the Article from Copenhagen,
of the tith intl. brought by the liamburgh Mail,
of Sir HYDL PARKER having loft a fun in the ac-
tion of the ad we conclude to be untrue. The
Danes did not probably knew that our gallant Ad-
miral was very recently ?rallied.
Captain &la H, who commanded the GLAT TON
in the late engagement off Copenhagen, has been
appointed to the command of the MONARCH ; he
is coming home in her, and, upon his arrival, takes
the command of the Itaastsrms, now fitting at
Chatham.

Yefterday packets were made up at the General
Poll Office, to be forwarded to the Cape of Good
Hope by the fhipsWittiam andHitinosrAu,which
are to fail without delay.
Since the capture of the Company's fhip Kr, mr,
Captain ItmtNorms, by SOURCOUFF, all the (hips
proceeding to India this feafon, have been put in
a better (tate of defence.

The prifoners which were taken by his Majefty's
(hip Battiostux, and force of the Company's
(hips, in the frigates la Medea and Concorde, and
which were received on (bore by the Viceroy at
Rio de Janeiro, have arrived at Lifbon, from
whence, according to a flipulatios, they arc to be
fent to France.

Letters of the t 3th of March, received from the
Officers of the Sucetss frigate, captured by the
fqoadron under Geartmums, fate, that the
Officers and crew were all well, though much dif-
treffed, having been plundered by the crew of the
fhip which boarded thefts. The Officers are on
parole meat. Toulon, till exchanged, and the men
confined on board a prifon-ffiip ia that harbour.

Laft night an Opera, entitled The Blind Girl ;
or, 4 Receipt for Beauty, was performed for the
firft time at Covent-Garden; the literary prodthion
of Mr. Morro a, of which our prefent limits will not
allow us to take much notice. The Rory chiefly re-
lates to the reflora donor a beautiful and fentimental
young lady to fight,and her marriage with the rue-
cefsful operator, an Englifhman,thrown accidental-
ly in the way of family in New Spain, where the
fcene of the piece entirely lies. We have alfu a
tragic Rory told in ballet, with abundance of
broad farce, and common place fentiment from
the French fchool. As a fpthacle, The Bfind
Girl is certainly a fplendid cimpound of fcene-
ry, pageantry, and Peruvian coftume, enriched
with Come very charming mufic the compofi-
lion, or rather compilation, of tiAZZINGIII and
Its cm The charaders are copies of old pictures,
the principal of which are a Sancho in Barataria, and
a Trudge, placed in new fituations. The thing and
tinging of lag night, particularly that of MUNDIN,
FAW,ETT INCLIDOII, JOHNSTONS, Mrs. H. JOHN..
STONI, Mrs. MATTOCILS, ?Airs WATIts, &c. was
excellent throughout ; and the Opera, on being
given out for a future reprefentation, experienced
much more applaufe than cenfure. It is at prefent,
however, too long by nearly an hour.

Bow-Svassr.—Tuefday evening, Efiher Davit
was examined on a charge of giving herfelf a faith
charafter, to obtain a fervace in the family of Mr.
R. in Red Lion.fquare.
Mrs. R. Rated, that being in want of a cook, the
was applied to by the prifoner at the bar, who
reprefented herfelf to have lived fervant a year
and a half with a Mrs. W. at Kingfland, to whom
the referred for charaCter. Mrs. R. accordingly
wrote to Mrs. W. refpating her, and the nest day
received an anfwer, as the fuppofed, from Mrs.
W. Rating the prifoner to be a very good fervent,
and would, no doubt, fuit her. Some fufpicion,
however, arising as to the authenticity of this let-
ter, application was made to Mrs. W. who declar-
ed the letter was not her writing, nor did the ever
receive that from Mrs. R. to which it appeared to
be an anfwer ; that the had fome little knowledge
of the prifoner, but that the never lived fervent
with her. From fome other circumftances that
tranfpired, there was reafon to believe that the let-
ter fent by Mrs. ft.•to Mrs. W. and which had
been put into the penny-poft, had been intercepted
at the delivery by the prifoner, who was feen near
the houfe that day. The prifoner, in her defence,
*clinked the character Otter was a forgery, and
that the had procured it to be written for the
purple.
Ihe Magiftrates, Mr. BOND, Mr. HUNTIR, and
Sir W. Paasows, by whom the cafe was invetti-
gated, being of opinion that the offence was clear-
ly eftablithed, conviited the prifoner in the penal-
ty of aol. together with cos. coils, as dire&ed by
the Aft, but which being unable immediately to
pay, the was committed to the lioufe of Correc-
tion, Cold Bath-Fields, there to be kept to hard
labour for oat month.
A nun of the name of Paint" with whom the
prifoner cohabited, and who was fuppoted to be
implicated with her in the above tranfaetion, was
saw examined, bat the evidence aetreaching him,
he waidifcbarged.

!NT= I.ICENCf.

(Yet Jimmie/a Advettifernents fee the la* Var.]

MAILS THIS DAY.—wir.dls.

1111111VPI)

• Hamburgh
o Dahlia
o Waterford
• Dmagadee, April 19,
I Jerky, April 10,
t• t. terr.fey, Aprii 22,

PLYMOUTH, APR!L st.

Came in the thip Pallas, of Plamburgh, Captain
PETER JANSEN Scent, from Liaion, bound to
Hamburgh, :acten with fugar, fruit, hides, tobacco,
and cotton, detaiited on the 18th initant, by the
Mittatocas fchuoner, of 16 guns, Lieut. STARK.
Came in the Danish Chip Beathea, of Chrillian-
fiend, Captain haul. Just-, from Cape Francois,
bound to Altona, laden with fugar and logw•ood,
detained on the 12th infant, by his Majefty's fbip
FIEGARD, of 38 guns, Captain MARTIN, in fight
of the Channel fleet.—Alfu the —, French lug-
ger privateer, of 12 guns, taken by his Majefty's
fhip CAMIKIAK, of 44 guns, Captain Lions.
Sailed on a cruize the JASON, of 38 guns, Capt.
YORKE ; and the PLYMOUTH lugger, of 16 guns,
Lieutenant ELLIOTT.

PORTSMOUTH, APRIL u.

Sailed the HIND frigate, with the fleet under
convoy for Halifax, &c. and CAMILLA, man of
war, with the fleet fur Newfoundland.

Arrived the POMoNA frigate from the Channel
Fleet. The AtETHOSA frigate is expeled to fail
to-morrow, with five or fix Earl India ihips. The
China (hips are not to fail till Monday.

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