Star.
London, England, 1831-07-02 00:00:00

Mr. HUNT mitv..4 for various returns of the qulntlty of
Corn Imported between Aprll, 1830, and April. 1831
Ordered.

land MAHON presented a petition from the Urder
Graduates and Bachelors of Oxford University, against the
Reform Bill; and observed that a great majority existed at
Oxford against the Lill.
Lord NIORPR fII said he could not contradict this
statement, but he knew that there was a respectable minority
in favour of the Bill.—Poi:ion ordered to be printed.
Mr. SCONSW AR presented a petition from Hull, pray-
ing for a free trade ta India. He concurred in Its

Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice, that in the Irish Re.
form Bill he should move to introduce a clause to enable
the people of Ire'and to be placed on the same basis
as the people of England. He should also move that
the forty shilling freeholders be allowed to vote ; sal if
that clause were lust, he should move that all persons having
a perpetual freehold to the value of 40s. and all persons having
an interest of 7 years at 101. value, be also entitled to vote.
—He then presented petitions from the Galway Protestants,
p aging for the extension of the right of voting to Roman
Catholic freemen. lie took the oppo,tunisy of asking. after
the homicide at Newtownbarry, whether another corps
of yeomanry would be armed ? He had a letter from a
peaceable inhabitant, stating that the people of Wexford
would not allow another Orange corps to be armed to mas-
sacre the people.
Lord A LTHORP made some remarks; but it was in
so low a tune that it was not heard in the gallery-
Dlr. O'CONNELL begged to assure the noble lord that
the greatest agitation prevailed in Ireland upon the subject.
He understood that a procession was intended to be got up
for the 12th of July, and if that did take place, he could
assure the noble lord there would be some mote blood spilt.
He begged now to refer to the petition which he had to pre-
sent, and which prayed for the re-establishment of the local
legislature in Ireland. The petitioners had intrusted him
with a discretion whetheror not he would present it, and after
the discussion of last night he felt it his duty to present it.
He appealed to the many independent men who had been sent
into that house by the late electlon,whether Ireland should be
so treated by the reform bill. The counties of England had
received additions to the elective franchhe—they had got se-
veral very numerous classes, such as freeholders, copyholden,
and leaseholders ; the. people of Scotland had had their fran-
chise greatly extended, but the franchise of Ireland would be
diminished ; the effect of the reform bill, as now proposed to
be brought in, would have the effect of turning the counties
into boroughs. The county he had the honour to represent
contained a population of 216.000 persons ; the number of
voters foe the county would be seven hundred, of which
forty-one were beneficed Clergymen of the Established
Church, and 1..6 of them resided in the town of Tralee ; and
as Trales was an open borough, the effect would be to turn
the eoun.y almost into a borough. The new franchise as pro-
posed by this bill would not give an addition of five to the
constituency. England and Scotland was to receive a great
increase, while Ireland was to be diminished. Why should
not property be equally represented in Ireland as in Eng-
land ? Was it supposed that the people of Ireland were so
stupid as not to feel this ? He entertained no jealousy for
the English bill. He would vote for it willingly, but
doing so, he had a right to appeal to his fellow re-
formers in England, and to ask them whether Ireland
should not be retitled to the same privileges as Eng-
land 1 Government was not to suppose that Ireland
would not feel insulted If they did not give some degree of
privileges to Ireland. such as England enjoyed. The
honourable member wished not to be misunderstood. Ile
had supported the reform measure as far as regarded Eng-
laud, and he would support it still, even if it were a mea-
sure aff.eting England alone. England had the forty.
shilling freeholders retained. Ireland had the Cony.shilling
freeholders taken away, and taken away too without any
crime, notwithstanding the very baste of the Union war

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founded upon the fuety-shilling franebiee. He, however,
wanted not to split hairs—he wished only to have a sub-
stantial reform.—a substantial reform was a'tout to be granted
to England, at.d he wished the 'woe to be presented to Ire-
land. He was persuaded that unless it was, the que :don of
the Repeal of the Union roultl not be put down, and in lair
conscience he thought it ought not to be put down.
Mr. ti 11E1 L said. his conviction was, that when change
was about to be made altlcting Ireland. it should be on
each principles as might be reasonably expected to sub-
due the ferment of the Irish people's mind. lie quite
agreed with Mr. O'f onnell. that the way to get over the
question of a dissolution of toe Union was to grant to
Ireland, and that protopdy too. something like justice. It
a substantial reform were granted to Ireland, he thought the
subject of the repeal of the Union would at least for some
years be set at rest. It had been a great satisiaction to him
to beat the Secretary for Ireland. on cite first day of the
opening of Parliament, state that some ciieunistances should
be brought forward to satisfy the Irish public that benefit
Malted from the Union. Nothing could be more desirable
than for such circumstances to be brought forward. What
had government yet done ? Nothing. A 4 regarded the

The patents conferring the above offices were read at the yeomanry, and paiticularly with respect to the lite affray at
table. Newtownbarry, be could not help thinking that their con.
Mr. BERNAL and several Members from the Commons, duct had been most reprehensible, and that the sooner that
brought ups private bill, which was teed the first time. band wu discharged, the better for the peace of Ir land ;
The House then adjourned to Monday. because, constituted as it was, it was almost impossible to
HOUSE OF COMMONS. expect on any occasion any thing like real justice. If he
RADICAL RIFORm. were asked what remedy lie would point out for the state of
Mr. HUNT presented a petition from the inhabitants of Ireland, he would say—let Government, before the passions
Stockport, stating that the time was come when the voice of of the people were more intoned, take sure effective mea.
the people could no longer be neglected, as they understood sures for allaying the agitation that prevailed. If they had
that the present Reform Bill would be final. They begged received any official information on the subject of the late
leave to oppose it on the gown& that it was nota radical re. melancholy affair, they ought to bring it before the House
form, and that instead of opening the right of representation and act upon it at once. It the Magistrates were guilty of
from hundreds to thousands, it should have been extended impropriety, or if the yeomanry were guilty, then let the
from thousands to millions. The petition proceeded to state one be removed from their commissions or the other de-
that the representation was composed of desperate diger. prived of their arms. Procrastination would be productive
chests. (Agitation, and cries of Order, and Oh !) Having of the greatest evil.
further read the petition, be moved that it be brought up. Mr. GRATTAN was as anxious as any man in that
The SPEAKER intimated to the Hon. Member that it House to support the present Ministers, but he felt bound
was the •.uty of every Member to read the petitions they had to deprecate, in the strongest terms, the organising of the
to present before they presented them ; and that he felt as. yeomanry of behold. The conduct of the yeomanry had
sured, if the Hon. Member had read this petition, containing worked an evil which it would take long and great measures
such offinsive language, he would not have presented it. to overcome. If Government for a moment supposed that
Mr. W. Y. Pr;Fl. doubted not that when the Hon. ! the peasantry and the public of Inland would permit this
Member considered the terms of the petition, he would not affair to sit where it was they were mistaken. He felt bound
hesitate to withdraw it. ; also to conjure the Government to lose no time in takitie
Mr. HUNT replied, that he would not have read it to' measures to prevent the intended processions of the (henge-
t/se House had he known that the terms were so offensive.— I men on the 12th of July, which had been alluded to. In
He had not before read it. The petition was eventually conclusion, he took levee to say, that unless some vet',
withdrawn. Mr. H. then presented several petitions with a prompt and effective steps were taken by the Government
similar prayer. ; for the relief of Ireland, he, for one, should certainly nun.
Mr. IA /NO WELL2SLEY deprecated such abuse of ; eider it his duty to urge upon the House at least the most
the Clergy as was contained in the petition. He thought i serious re-consideration of the repeal of the Union. The
that the hon. member ought to consider that he was teapots- late Chancellot of the Exchequer might laugh, but it was no
Bible for the contents of the petitions he might present. laughing matter for any person who felt for the distressed
Mr. H UNT said many petitions were presented, the con. state of unfortunate Ireland ; and it was utterly impossible
tents of which were unknown to the house. for him or any oilier individual to entertain anything like a
The SPE.tKEit intimated to the lion. member that the solid opinion :hat the Union could be continued, unless
reason for that was to be found in the coefidentx the house some active niea-tires *ere ,eken for the benefit of Ireland
placed in the discretion of hon. %Ir. LEER() was directly opposed in opinion to
air. HUNT observed Oat persons might be gore: line* those who thought it rim ht to take up every sort ef conjec.
led into error in presenting petitions ; the very fi.s: petition sure. for the purpose of throwing Ttfl2Cllolll on the conduct
the Lord Advocate presented to this house was one that was of the yeomanry end magiatrales, respecting the Neetown-
in fact addressed to the House of Lords. berry affray.
Mr. HUNT then presented a peti.inn from the inhebi- Lord A ILTHORP was of opinion that it wu utterly
wits of a par.sh in the county of Langford, praying for a imposeible for the House to take any proper course, except
repeal of the Union. The tom. member then said that he that of silence on the subject, while the Coroner's inquest
tied, a few days ago. ed fir returns of the importation of was going on. (Hear, hear.) If the discussions were eon-
• curia into thi • country. and was referred by an hon. mentrier tinued from time to time b fore the termination of the
to the library for his information. Ile had examined, and Inquest, they could only be productive of greet mischief,
. was unable to obtatri who he required. and lie now begged avid in which he trusted honourable Members would agree
. move
Into t tisfor a return of the quantity of foreign corn imported wt hhr
m.
country for one year, to the sth of April last, dis- Mr. LAMBERT could not hear what had fallen frotratits
Anguishing the qualities, and stating the amount of duty paid hon. representative of Dublin University, in reference tel
• Alto the Exchequer. on account thereof. Reform, without making one observation, founded on his
Mr. Alderman WOOD ‘4l fur a return of the number own knowledge of the state of public opinion generally
of persona discharged under the Insolvent Debtors' Act, dis throughout Ireland. lie bad the honour to represent a
. anguishing those whose estates had paid dividend*, and those county which, at all events, had proved itself ntost favour.
who sub-eq trolly scythed property which was made available rink, to the reform bill. In the late pat-haute' Fe % Ate
• to the payment of their debts.—Urdettd. don), member favourable.to the measure, and now her,