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1111 D 110USAS.

BETHI.EhI HOSPITAL.

EXTRACTS FROM THE EVIDENCE GIVEN BEFORE A COMP

SUTTEE OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Xi. George Walla, called in, and examined.
What is your situation ?-1 am Steward of Beth-
lem Hospital.
How long have you been steward ?--It is about
three months since I took possession of the situation ;
1 was elected in January.
Do you happen to know any thing of the medical
treatment ?—No, it is not in my department.
Who is the :Physician to Bcthlem ?—Thc:e is only
one. Dr. Monti). _

How often does Dr. ltionro attend ?--I believe
but sid.sas ; but my avocations are sl numerous, that
I ma) be eta of the way when he comes s I hear be
has cot been round the house. but once these three
mouths; he may have been there without my know-
lftlge ; he has been at the Hospital more frequently,
but hot round the gallery ; the matron always being
in the galleties, would answer that question more
Pointedly than myself.
You are now speaking of the female wards ?—Yes.
How many keepers are there at Bethlem ?—There
are two men and two females, and an assistant male,
keeper.

What is the proportion of female patients to male ?
I think the ftmales are sixty-eight in number, and
the men Si ty-t*o ; the females were 62 on Saturday,
and 52 men.

Do you ciutsider two male keepers and two female
keepers sufficient for the number of patients in the
Hospital ?—As they are situated at that Hospital, it
is probably sufficient, because they are .211 put to-
gether.
Are there any other attendants besides the keepert ?
No.
How large are the cells ?—I cannot exactly say ;
they are large cells at the old Hospital, larger than
at the new, they are a full size.
Are the windows glazed ?—Not generally; they
are partially giazed.
Have you ever been there during the winter ?—lt
was in February when I took possession.
Since yeti have been in your situation at the Hos-
ci-al, have ynu easerved that the pati'ents have suffer-
ed much from cold ?-1 have not observed that : the
weatimr has been generally pretty open since .1 have
been there.
Have they fires at present in the sitting room ?
Yes.

. Do they crowd round the fire?—Some do; others
preLr being in the ;1411eriess
How many galleries are there ;=Two for the men
and two for the women ; anJ there is a place called
the slips in the attics, for the women.
How many arc there of patients ?—About -26 in
each, men's gallery ; and the half of 66, Ss, in the
women's.

A:-e the smells in Bethlem very offensive ?-17here
is a room called the Infirmary, which is sometimes
very offensive, particularly when crowded.
Is it not offensive also from the sewers ?—I have
not been sensible of that; I think it proceeded more
from dirty patients,
What is the allowance of food ?-On Monday they
have for breakfast a large bason of water-gruel, with
two ounces of bread in it; for dinner they have a
quart of milk porridge, and seven ounces of bread,
two Cronies of cheese, aorta quart of beer ; for supper
they have seven ounces of bread and the same•quan.
city of cheese ; that is what is called a meagre day.
How many meagre days are there in a week ?
Four ; on the three meat days they have for breakfast
water•gruel ; eight ounces of meat (after tieing dress-
ed) for dinner, Lt.tven onoces of bread, about a pound
of.potatoes, and a quart r•f* table beer.
How often does Mr. Haslam attend the hospital ?
He attends generally very regularly every day.
Does he go regularly round the hospital every day ?
He frequently goes round, passes along-the galleries;
if.there is a patient he has a particular desire to see,
be sees that posou.
Does he in his visits examine every cell ?—I can-
• not say he dims.
So it might happen that months and months might
elapse witi.out his seeing the different patients in the
hospital ?—lt pinbably might happen ; but as I do
not. go round with him, I do not know.
Wh,:re does Mr. Haslam reside ?..A.t Islington.
• At what time does he generally come, and hoie
long does he generally stay ?—He generally comes
about eleven o'clock, and stays half •an hour, or
sometimes longer than that.
In case any person should be taken with a fit, what
medical or sufgicalattendance'have you ?—None but
Mr. Haslam ; it he has leave of absence for a day or
two, he eerr..rally leaves word, if an accident happens,
to send for a person.
Has Mr. Had= been absent many days together?,
lie has never been absent above three days, and then
he had leave of absence from the Treasurer.
Since you have been in your situation, has,it ever;
happened that a person was ill, and you were obliged
to send express for Mr. Haslam, the patient wanting
his ass'stance ?:—That has never been done since
have been steward of the
° . Have rill ever ge.tra that has happened have
beard that application has been made from the ma-
tron to the apothecary, and lie has thOught they
would die•probably, and it was not necessary to give
medicine ; but that is only hearsay.
Have you ever heard it has been the practice in
. Bethlem to give medicines in the nature of a puuish-
meat ?L-No, I ntver have. •
Were you acquainted with Norris ?—I knew him
for that period, ten days.
He died on the 2Sth of February ?—Yes. •
Do you know how long he had been ill ?—He died
of a consrmision, I understood. . • I
Did yen ever know Matthews ?—No.
'What aas the situation you found Norris in, had
• he any chains upon him ?—No.
Had he permission to walk about the gallery ?
Yes.
• Did he do that ?—No, he was not well enough ;
be was in a dying state when I saw him.
Was be peaceable and tractable I—Qiiite so.
From what you have heard-sirice you have been in
the hospit4; do' you believe that any other persons
-beadel Norris have been treated in that or a .similar
trriativer have. heard so kten the late surgeon,
44. r. Crowtlig.
. .•

Did he give yea any particulars at to the any
which any other persons had been treated i+ .He told
me that s man had died of constipated bowelsi
, that Mr. Lawrence dissected the body and found
that "e the case; he found the intestines burst, in
consequence of the long state of constipation, it
having remained so long.
' Did he attribute that to the neglect of medical at-
tendance ?—Yes ; I think •he mentioned it in a book
he published upon that subject, which was an answer
to the reviewers.
Did he mention any other case to you ?—Yes, elm
the case of a man who had an iron collar round his
neck, and a chain to it, which chain was passed
through the wall into an adjoining cell. •
Did he mention any other ?—He spoke generally
of the neglect of the medical officers, that medicine
was not given them in the way it ought to be.
Did Mr. Crowther ever mention to you, that he
considered it necessary for the security of Norris, to
fasten him down in that manner ?—He said it was
not necessary. I heard Mr. Crowther say, that the
keeper went into the cell to restrain Norris from some
act of violence, or making a noise; and that he
struck Norris, that Norris retaliated, and the conse-
quence was, Norris being a very powerful nian, he
got him down, and would have murdered him per-
haps with a shovel, but that one of the patients went
to the assistance of the keeper, and that Norris stab-
bed him with a knife ; I believe he stabbed both the
keeper and the patient, and that was the reason of
Norris being solitarily confined. The keeper was in
a state of intoxication.
Who are the physician and apothecary of &thins
Hospital?—Mr. Haslam is the apothecary, and Dr.'
Monro the sole physician.
• Since you have been in your situation, have you
made much alteration in the internal management of
Bethlem observed a- good many patients were
kept in bed; I desired they might be taken up and
dressed, and taken to the fire; I mentioned it to the
apothecary ; he thought it proper it should be done.
I believe the women were kept in bed very much.
Is it your practice now to make every person that
is not confined by illness, or in a state of extreme
violence, get out of bed and dress himself ?—Yes, I
rp round and see it done.
Have you effected any other improvements in
Bethlem, besides making patients get up, who are
otherwise in bed ?—No; I do not think I had it in
power to do more than that, and having them
washed.
Have you inspected the building of the new Beth-
km in St. Geor4e 6-fields ?—Yes.
Do you concetve the construction of that building
good ?—ln many points of view, I think it superior
to the old one the patients will be kept separate, the
dirty ones from the cleanly ones ; it will allow of the
convalescent dining together at a table ; the rooms
are not so spacious, nor the galleries so wide; airing,
grounds are vrantiqg in Bethlem; these airing grounds
are very good.
Is there any garden ground allowed ?—Yes.
So that the convalescents may be permitted to
walk ?—Yes; I think that practice will contribute
very.much to amuse their minds and piomote their
general healtb.
Do yoU not believe that enabling the patients in
look out at the windows in the new Bethlem would
'be a considerable source of amusement to them ?—I
am convinced of it, because many of the patients
said, they had heard they were so-constructed ; that
they hoped it was so; they asked me whether it was
soar not; that it was a great pleasure and amuse•
ment for them to look out.
Did you observe. how the new Bethlem is venti-
lated ?—Not particularly; it is to be ventilated by.
having thexasements opened.
Are there any additional ventilations since last
year ?—Not that I know.
Are nieans taken to warm that hospital by steam ?
—Yes, the lower galleries only, the basement store ;
then, I believe, flues are carried to the dining-room,
but not in 'the gallery, I believe.
From your experience in the treatment of these
persons, have you any -doubt that they suffer sensibly
Irons cold ?—Certainly.
Of course in the Old Bethlem- they must have suf-
fered considerably in the cold weather.?—Certainly.
Do you use the warm bath at the old ?
--It has never been used since I have been-there; I
never beard that there was a warm bath there.
Do you know whether there is any building erected
af the new Bethlem for criminal lunatics ?—Yes.
Can a communication take place between the cri-
minal lunatics and lunatics of another description ?
No.'

Can they communicate in the airing] grounds ?
—No.

Is it your opinion that intermixture of dangerous
'.unatics with the others has a tendency to pri,duce
much mischief amongst all of them ?—Certaialy ; we
have an instance now in Bethlem of a man of the,
name of Banister Trulock, who, whilst he was sut.
fere4'to be in the galleries, was perpetually creating
insurrections, and persuading patients to commit acts
of mischief. They were therefore obliged to 'shut,
him up io a separate part of the building.
Where was Trulock confined I—ln a part of the
building which is taken down.
Is he in personal confinement ?—No, but he is not
allowed to intermix with other patients.
Was he shewn to the visitors of the Hospital last
year ?-1 do not know ; he is generally, 1 believe,
forgot. When the Governors go round, they do not
see him.
What is the nature of tho inspection of , the Gover-
nor ?—Merely goes round occasionally. The Bethletn
Sub• Committee, I see by the rules, should go round
once a month.
• Do they, in point of fact, go round ?—Not as a
body, they do not; but some members of that Com.
mittee go round more frequently,
When they make that inspection, either in a body
or individually, do they see every cell, and examine
every part of the hospital ?—Yes, generally.
Is there any (oom for the reception of dead bo-
dies ?—They are removed from the galleries to the
cellar.

Are they removed immediately.after their death ?
—ln the courseof the day. •
How king do they icinain in the cellar before they
are Iniried?,—They Are niver buried before the fol-
lowing day, or the day after f they more frequently
itemain three or four days.

. - .ITROCIOUt MtI.RDZR. '

!Per the following particulars respecting a delibe-
rate murder, committed in the County of Durham,
on *Monday night last, we are indebted to the Editor
of the Durltans County Advertiser :
" Miss SMITH, of Fast Herrington, near Hough.
ton-le-Spring, a person possessed of considerable pro-
petty, but whose penurious habits may very justly be
compared to those of the celebrated miser, F.t.wfts,
having occasion to go from home on the 19th ult.
left her house in charge of her servant, Is/tem./4
Yours% who had only been in her employ a few days:
This unfortunate female, who is understood to have
conducted herself with the utmost propriety in her
new situation, had been alarmed two or three nights;
dining the absence of her mistress, by persons at-
tempting to open the doors and windows of the
house, and had requested of a neighbour, on Monday
last, to allow her daughter to sleep with her as com-
pany, which was refused.
" On Tuesday morning, about two o'clock, the
house was discovered to be on fire, and the neigh-
bourhood being alarmed, the people flocked to render
assistance, when they found the poor girl had bezn
most savagely murdered ; her skull was dreadfully
cut and fractured, apparently by an axe or other sharp
instrument, her eyes beaten in; and her jaw-bone and
teeth broken. She had not the least signs of life
when discovered.. It would appear that the villains
who committed this foul and bloody deed, had ex-
pected to possess themselves of considerable wealth
from the coffers of the pat simonions Lady (but in this
we understood they wr uld be disappointed) nand the un-
fortunate servant having probably interfered or known
some of the robbers, they had come to the fiend-like re.
solution to destroy her, and the better to obscure their
guilt, had set the house on fire, in hopes to consume
the body and give the whole the appearmnce of acci-
dent. HEAVEN, however, ordained it otherwise, and
the murdered corpse was rescued fa out the flames, as
evidence against the inhuman mongers. The house
was almost entirely consumed, little except the walls
now remaining. A reward of Une Hwulred Guineas
has been offered for the discoveiy of thc perpetrators
of the horrid deed, and we underst Ind there is reason
to suspect they are not far from the spot where the
murder was committed.."
The only circumstance likely to lead to the disco-
very of the murderer, rests on the evidence
given by HANNAH CRIMSON before the Coroner.--
She sometimes assisted in cleaning the house and
furniture, and deposed, " that about a week since,
when the deceased and she were cleaning the pewter
at Miss Smith's, a man, dressed like a pitman, came
to the door, and being admitted by the deceased,
came boldly in with his hat on, and sat down without
being asked, saying,. he wanted to see Miss SMITH. to
' take a colliery of her ; to which the witness re-
pemedly replied, she was sure Miss SMITH would not
let any ; he still kept up the conversation upon that
subject, saying, that be could manage little odd
things, but that he could not procure horses, and upon
this the examjnent saying, that they could • not
spare time to gossip with him, he said they might alt
ways spare an hour or .two to talk : witness asked
him where he • came from He said near Durham.
Slie did not think from his appearance that he was a
man likely to take a colliery, and pressed him more
to know where lie came from, upon which he varied
his story, and said he came tram Nesham's colliery,
and said he had a lame arm, which she did not per-
ceive ; he was sober, and staid nearly an hour ; he
tasked for 'something to drink, witness said, they had
.eiothing but rain water for hins ; witness thinks she
has seen Mm somewhere before, and believes idle
would know him again it sac should meet with him,
and said, that the deceased and she expressed to each
other, atter he was gone, their dislike to his appear-
ance, and because he first denied and prevaricated at
to where he came from : he was a tall man, Of long,
pale, smooth visage, and shabbily dressed.
The Jury returned a Verdict of Wilful Murder
against some person or persons unkno•sti.