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VtiTICE ii hereby ghoul Mid a Sefton •
.oyer and
4.1 Tlllllilitr ad Goal Lltiibery;lie the Trial of mieasii•
Wattle HO Seal. 11444 tit 2_,trifiseie• gibe- Aii df gar
6,4 az i• held at. 7gaitiee Hall, ho the Old Barre , on
Thep* tie iti of Yassery wet, a t.Birla,eClesi in ebe iferselog.
WILLIAM MAR3D2N.

taw WRITS.
New vstits.were ordered to be Blued for the Boroughs a stock-
bridge, lye, EnisOkUkn, and Dundalk, in the room of Members
who badbeen limited to ferve tor other places.
A MfdDge fsouythe Lords Informed the Houte that their Lord-
thips had agreed in the BM fur reculatlitg the Ttlate of Contro
rated gledtionn.
Mr.VANSITTART, in the Committee of Simply, moved the
continuance of the Milt tax, and the Duties on Pendoos sad
Oakes. The Refolutions were agreed to, and or.hred to be re-
ported tomorrow.
Mr. VANSITTART,M the Committee of Ways and Meads,
moved for the relfing of to,too,oCoL by Loans and Eschewr
ter ate fereice of the caning year. This Refolution was alfo
owed es, eat amend to be-reported to-morrow.
' meGOCiaTtom Willi FRANCS. •
(in the • motion of Lord HOWICK, the Papers
which had been laid upon the table, relative to the
Negotiation with Preece, wen ordered to be taken
into aonfideration.,
).
Lntd HOWICIE then enke to move an Addrefs to
his licajelly. He Paid, that the papers whieli had
ism laid before the Hook, anstwhich had now been
Ass.a coAfftlerable time ender cooffiltrationt lospored
it-upon hies; as a duty•to err ve, as was Whit upon
ftmilar occafions, an Addrefoto his Majefty, convey-
in thole fent imeots which the Hoare could ant avoid
feeling, of thanks-to bii Majefty for his paternal re-
gard for the welfare and prnfperity of his fubjtas,
and for his anxious with to obtain for them the Wet
fins of peace. if they zooid be obtained on terms
tompatible with the honour and the ;mere% of the
Empire. In Alin to perform this duty, it was ins.
poffible for him not to experience many painful
feelings. In the fir.ft place, he could not avoid
feeling the molt poignant regret •at the failure of
a negociation, which had for its objett, and which i
at one time teemed to promife, the reftoration of
the bleffings of peace, not only to this country, bats
to all Europe. The pain that he felt at the com-
plete failure of fuch a negociation was, however,
much aggravated by the additional obstacles which
had Ism thrown in the way of the accomplithment
of thrift objetts, by the rapid fucceffion of fatal and
difailr..us events, which followed the failure of the
nerciation. There was another fubjed alfo, which
' was fit conneBed with his perfonal feelings and af-
, fettions, as well as with the intereas of this_ country,
that he could not avoid expreffing the painful feel-
ings which it excited in bitinind : he could not avoi.:
laying a word or two on the great and irreparable
lots which the country had fuftained, in the death
of Mr. Fox. Although this was a. 101 l which the
country muff long regret, there waa,hardly any indi-
vidual who had more perfonal motives to regret h
theta be had. He no longer. had the benefit!of the ad-
tic( of his great friend and iliffra-kr, and he felt
how weak he was when deprived of fo powerful a Cup.
port. It seas impofiible f:r him to avoid recolletting
what that great totaaaeas.ssadtben %shot he was, and,
in that view of the Catlett, it was equally impollible
for him to avoid reeling his great iufulliciency. If,
however, there was any thing to encourage him in
undertaking the at duous duties of MS pi efei a Situation,
it was the knowledge, that he was in complete polier-
floss of all the views which that great man had taken
of the fubjett, even to the very WI moments, when
he could think of thufe fubjetts which fo compleatly
p_ofteffed his mind, refpetting the bell means of fem.
ing the peace and permanent prosperity ofthis coun-
try. He Should not conceive bimfelf obliged tp
tref-
pars long upon the attention of the Houle, if he was
Pure to find the Caine feeling on the fobj‘a which was
alma unanimoutly entertained out of that Houfe,
both abroad and at home ; or, if he expected to meet
there a vote as unanimous as was lately given by au-
other alterably upon that fuliett. He knew, however,
full well the feverity of criticifin which the condo& 1,
of his Najeay's Minifters had to undergo in that
Houle, and he Should therefore endeavour to give as I
clear and detailed a Statement as he was able of thwi
conduct, of MiniSters throughout the negociation ;
an 3 be hoped to thew, that at the fame time that
they entertained the molt Sincere and at dent defire
for obtaining Such a peace as would give repofe to
this country and fecuriry to Entope, yet that they
were not difpofed to make any improper conceffions.
or faetifices for the attainment of that object which
they fo touch defired. They left no efforts untried
for the accomplithmeut of that great object, but at
the fame time they took care not to commit the ho-
nour of tit', country. He believed that it would
hardly,be difputed, that at the rime of crtening the
sate negociation, peace Was defirable. An honour-
able and fecure peace was then, as is at all times, the
Only true and legitimate end of war—a fate and ho.
nourable peace was then the aim of his Majelly's
MiniSters, and it was to obtain it that the negotia-
tion was commenced. If it were recolletted at what
time the negociation commenced; it would hardly
be denied that after the failure of the third coalition
I and the unfortunate battle of Aluiterlitz, any peacel
that could have given Europe even a temporary re.
pore, -or !bate fecuriry for the independence of what
was left mit, be an (Ned much to be &fired.
i, If then there could be no objettion to the time of the
I negociation, the next quellion would be, what ob-
jettion could be made to the principle of it ? The
principles upon which the negotiation commenced
were, that it was to be for a peace which thouli be hro
Incurable to bath nations, and which Should provide
as far as poffible, for the future Security of Europe.
Thefe principles he hoped' would 'not be objetted to
by anybody, and thefe principles were cunitandy
kept in view by his Majetirs MiniSters throughout
the whole of the negociation. In the commence-
ment of the negotiation, .they pofitively refuted to
treat, except in re ijunetion with our ally the Em-
peror of Raffia. This principle was adhered to Stea-
dily, as being molt material to the honour of the
country. The befit of actual poffeffion was alfo Om;
fen as the- only one that was to be confidered ho.'
°curable. In order that a peace Should be honour-
able between two great Nations, it was necetlary
that it Should be equal ; and a peace could not be
Paid to be equal, if either of the parties were obliged
to purchafe it from the other by ceffions. An ho-
nourable peace timid, therefore, recognize no oaf.

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fatty of giving up peireffions, Without. eutdvaletWeS AP
the price of A Right .Hon. Gentleman Mr. CO.
_ping) on 'a° former mght lead threatened Militate,
with ait,invelligation of their tendon on three point,
—l*. That the ovettureiiid not come from France,
Idly, That the hafts propofed was not actual poffet•
(loot and.3dly, Thit we had treated separately from
,Ituff4: As to the fiat point, he did not know how'
the Hen. Gentleman could make it out—Me
aeifiret-
of,Talleyrend to Mr. Fez was certainly the fir*
thing which appeared at an overture to negocia
Lion, and Gentlemen osi the *other fide had not
allied Minikes to produce any thing prior to that
which might look like an overture on their fide.--
That fetter certainly mull be confidered as the fir*
overture to a negociatient which was made by France.
It was true *t thole:ter it was ant the bath ao-
tuatpofeSo* which was Monti. 'wed, bat an- tther beat
natstele, ;ha WOW Tilsit, of Amiens. Tn! this pro.
Parath ifhliteellasely anfwespd. that the Treaty
of • Aliffene Up IA %balls which cenkl poffitsly lead
to filch a peace An heeh notions could defer.: foe it ,
truth, take a 4ery king negociation to 'fettle how
mairrpirte of the Treaty of Amiens ought to be
tinderfiond ;. it was, therefore, impoffible that any
thing, fatisfad-ery could be coneluded on Amt. basis.M. Talleyranz.l, in his unfetkr," gave up the hafts of
the Treaty of Amiens, and'bettiunly did, although -
not in expeefs term, but in the fair emitted* 05.
them imply, that actual wifelike' was to brute hafts
of the negociation. &fides, the letter attach had
, been publifhed; there was a rifest kttet front 11.
Talleyrand, which repeated, 44 The Emmert wants
nothing of what you poffefs; itU he wants is equality.
,France is a great power on land, and you are a great
power at fea—and, as. France cannot undo thole
treaties which fhe has made, neither can the ex.
peel England to abandon 'the adiantages Ilse has
gained." . The true conllruition of that letter, and
the context of it, certainly (hewed that it was upon
, the Rate of afloat polleflon that the negociation
was propofed to be carried on, and juflified Mini.
tiers, in Rating that the overrate for negociation had
come frcm France, and that she had propofed the
date of actual poffeffir es the balls of it. As this
letter, however, cantained,the propofal for treating
reparately from Ruffia, Mr. Foi could not for a :no-
meta think of acceding to the propofition, and be
fenf
.an aofwer on the aoth of April, pofitively re-
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fuling.to, treat, except in conjunason with our Ally.
'lffithope4l-the Honfe of Commons would not think
it necellaty for him to go into the details of the fo-
'phiftical quibbling of M. Tadleyrand—(tow be la-
boured lo prove that England and Ruffia were Allies
only in fort refpeds, and that in other refpeas they
Were not Allies i how thatwe neither affifted Auntie
and Ruffia at lend,'nerilidthey stffilt us by lea; and
that, in fad, we had nothing to do with the continen-
tal war. This indeed was a very different doctrine
from what they bad neld fen merly, when they ufed to
call England.the great ineigator and fopporter of the
Continentil 'war. They teemed to have forptten alto
the great and important viaory gained by Lord Net.
fon, and followed by the viaory of Sir R. Strachan.
That whole piece of fophiary was, however, com-
pletely anfwered and overturned by a (bort and man-
ly note of only a few lines, written by Mr. Fox on
the eath of April. At that time it was thought that
the negociation could lead to no ufefal refult, and'.
Mr. Fox himfelf conceived it as being entirely at ep.
end. It was a very long time before this note was ,1
etifwered by the French Government : he wooldtc
therefore, with to paufe for a moment at that pericill
of the negociation, and alk Gentlemen on the oche!.,.;
fide, was there any thing in the -condos* of his Mi./3
jelly's Minifiers, fo far. that could be complained nfo
A Right Honourable Gentleman Lbli:Canning)idel,.
however, taunted 74iniRers, witbiotifereitsg, that the
country expelled from the prefent hfiniffese Rmpli.
city, candour, talents, fuperior wifdoptend energy,
and then allied, which of thole qttilakint were die- ,
coverable in the prefent nogociatiertl-1111.woald rat- • •
I ply by laying, that whoever did expel thettliplomada
concerns of the country to be minagedinith
lltnpli-
city, with fianknefe, and with the molt Confuentuate
genius; if he Were to look at the letters colldr. 'Fox
he would difcover all thofe qualities. Ifstiff.aglifh Fox,
i man wished to fee the charade; of his ceiling n the
negociation, compared with that of Fritatefithe had
:may to look to the letters of Mr. Fox atothf. Talc
kyrand, and he would be proud of the compatifoa--•
(loud (fin of Hmr; hew! from all parts of the No .).—
He van happi:to witnefs loch an union of fentiment,
at least upon that paint. This, letter, written by Mr.
Fox on the aoth of April, was not anfwered by M.
Talleyrand till the 4th of June, and aboutthe fame
time a Noble Lord (Lord Yarmouth) arrived in
England. That letter did either reject the propofal
of treating in conjunction with Ruffia, nor did it
Deny the balii of actual pacifier*. There was fome.
thin; in the letter which pointed out a mode of re.
moving the difficulty of treating in conjunction with
Ruffia, by referring, to the precedent of the year
1782. This letter, however, in itfelf, was pot fatif.
factory, but Lord Yarmouth came to London at the
fame time, who exprefsly Rated to his Majelly's
triflers, that he wis inftruded on the part of the
French Government, to lay before them a proprial
cf peace, on the balls of aattal pale& n. This bra
been, further corroborated by the gatemenmade by
the Noble Lord in that Houle. M. Talleyrand was
unwilling to fend Inch a fetter without accompanying
it with a verbal :mirage, and there were many things
that it might be more prudent to fend by a verbal
mefage, than to commit to paper. For example, the
intentions of the French Government with refpee to
Hanover, might be declared more freely in converfa-
tion than they could he in the fir( instance by a writ-
ten paper, or official documents. If the Gentle.
men, on the other fide) however, difputed the tads,
he mutt refer them to the affertion of LordYartiouth
himfelf, corroborated (if his.. afflrtion req.-aired any
co-roboration) by a variety of circumaimess. When
Lord Yarmouth, on his return to Paris, feasted the
hafts of anal poififfiosis
_which. was to torero the

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