Star.
London, England, 1807-08-12 00:00:00

P•tOCHIAI. SCHOOLS.

Lord HOLLAND mowed the committal of the
Parochial Schools Bill.

Lord HAWKESBURY °Netted to it, upon the
ground that there was not fuffictent time left to give
that con fideration to a fubjea of this magnitude which
it required. There were in tiffs opinion many objec-
tions to the Bill—the preamble, he thought, was
nonfenfe ; nor would he allow that there was lefs
virtue and morality in England than in Scotland.
He did not mean to objea to the general principle
of educating the people ander certain guards and
reftriftions, but theft guards and reffrietions were
wanting in the prefent Bill. The Bill was certainly
leis oblationable than it would have been in its ori-
ginal fhape, namely, that of compulfion ; but Hill
there was a degree of compulfion left, by means of
the majority of the inhabitants of a parifh, to which
he mutt object. So many amendments were, how-
ever, neeeffary, that it was impnfliEle they could go
through the bill during the remainder of the prefent
8:Ifion ; and. therefore, he moved to poflpone the fur-
ther confideration of the bill till this day three months.
Lord HOLLAND was forprifed at the objedioris
made to the Bill, as be had conceived it to nand
upon fo clear a principle as to be unobjeaionable. He
thought the Noble Lord had ufed rather a thong.
expreffion in calling the preamble nonfenfe he ad-
mitted that there were fume words which were very
unufual in Ads of Parliament, but Rill a very trifling
alteration would fet it right. The other ohjedions of
the Noble Lord might alfo, he thought, be eafily
obviated by amendments notwithflandina the late pe-
riod of the Seffiont. He lamented much the inten.
tion which appeared to exit t on the other fide, of
throwing out this Bill for the prefent Seffions, and
that this, like another meafure lately related, both
of which had originated in the loft feffions, and had
ooth been fubjeth of public expedation. fhould now,
in a thin Houle, and at this late period of the See
fionr, be alfo rejeded.
Lord REDESDALE contended that the educa
tion of the people ought to be placed under the con-
troul of the eftablifhed church in every country, as
the heft mode of preferving the tranquility of the
country, and that this was not fufficiently provided
for in the Bill. He thought alfo, that too great
power was given to the majority of inhabitants in a
parifh, particularly as to the interference with fchools
already eltablifhed. He denied that the Bill was
a fubjea of general expedition, but on the contrary,
as far as he had been able to afcertain' a fubjea of
general apprehenfion, for the reafons he had men
tioned.

Lord HOLLAND thonght the Noble and Learn.
ed Lord had mikonceived the Bill, as it only went
to give the Churchwardens and Overfeers power to
eilablith Schools with the confent of a majority of
the pari(hioners, or to contribute to fchools already
eflablithed, hut not to interfere with thofe fchools.

I Lord REDESDALE was of opinion, that %be
words of the ad conferred a power of interference.
The LORD CHANCELLOR wilhed to put in a
claim of the borderers and the inhabitants of the
North of England. to be diftingoiffied in the Bill, as
well as the inhabitants of Scotland, inafmuch as they
thought learning better than houfe and land, and
there were in that part of the kingdom a great num
ber of fchools efiablitled. He thought the prefent
Bill very defective, and that the power given to a ma-
jority of the inhabitants in parilhes would lead to
endlefa difputes, and might involve parties in long
Chancery fuits, which it could not be the with of the
Houfe to give rife to.
The ARCHBISHOP of CANTERBURY withed
it to be diftindly underfleod, that he did not oppofe
the principle of the Bill, but he fupported the motion
of the Noble Secretary of State, on .the ground that
there was not fufficient time to make thole numerous
amendments which the Bill required. He thought
the Bill contained, in fame degree, a libel on the in,
habitants of thetouthern part of the ;timid, by fup.
pofing that they were in a Rate r f ignorance, when,
lon the contrary, there were very numerous fchools
eßabliflied. He had turned his attention particularly
to thefe fchoula which were under his own controul,
and he fhould shortly be enabled to lay before the
Houfe a Itatement which would probably furprite
their Lordfhips with refpeel to the extent to which '
the education of the children of the poor had already
proceeded. He objeded decidedly to that part of
the Bill which placed the fchools out of thecontroul
of the Diocefan. He alfo objtded to the words Right
inflrudion, in the preamble, about the meaning of
which every live or fix perfons would differ.
Earl STANHOPE protefled againfl the eftablifh•
ment of a principle, that public education was only
to be extended to the children of parents of the eftab•
lifhed Church. He was decidedly in favour of the
Bill, which he thought might he eafiiy amended. As
to the objeclir•n that the Preamble was nonfenfe, it
would not be the firft time th'at nonfenfe had crept I
into an At of Parliament. He remembered an Al,
in which the words Flour, Meal, etcetera, were riled,
and to which a claufe was fubfetplently added, ena&
ing that a cetera, fhould be deemed to be Li fcuit.
The motion for further confidering the Bill this
day 3 months was carried. The bill is therefore 1011.

-IRISH ARMS BILL.

The Houfe refolved itfelf into a Committee on the
Irilh Arms Bill.

Lord HOLLAND thought it fingular that they
fhould have arrived at this Beige of a Bill of fuch
great importance without any reafons being alleged
to prove the neceffity of the meafure. Not four-and.
twenty hours had elapfed fince they had been confi-
dering Bills, the objeds of which were to contribute
to arm a large portion of the people, in order to meet
the exigencies of the country, and now it formed a
fingular contraft that they were in a Committee en
a Bill for difarming a large portion of his Majefty's
fubje&s in Ireland. He could not fuller a Bill of
this nature to be proceeded in, without again call.
ing the attention of the Houfe to the caufes of thole
difeontents which rendered there meafuree of coercion
neceffary. He did not with to go over at length the
grounds he had before taken when another Bill was

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B:ftg or :et
Wore elle Houfe, but be could not bepnr
importance of conciliatory meafures as the bell mode
of allaying the difcontents oft large
c polrtio
population of Ireland. When difcontents crafted
amongft a large portion of the people of Scotland, it
was propofed to Sir lt,•bert Walpole to enliti ties
into regiments in the ferrtce of the country, and to
give the commands to the principal families My
were then hoftile to the Government. The idea 'Nag
eagerly feized by that great (latefman,, but was re.
jetted by the Cabinet. Many of thofe perfoos after.
wards joined the Rani:lard of the rebellion. When.
however, fubfequently a milder and more concilia.
tory policy Was adopted, that people became loyal
and zealous in the fervice of their country ; and
finally, all the meafures which had been thought ne.
celFary to enaa were repealed in the adminiftratioa
of the late Earl of Shatham. Similar refults offered
i themfelvei in Hungary, where a large portion of
the people, in confequence of being of a religion dif.
ferent from the eftablillsed church, were kept under
II degrading reßraints, that 'ma-oily produced dif.
contents. When however thofe reftraints were put
an end to, the utmoft loyalty and zeal prevailed,.
With yelped to the Bill, he thought it placed by far
too great powers in the hands of the magiftracy of
}
Ireland. The reafon which induced him relottaetly
to give his content to a Bill recently palled, did not
operate in the prefent inllance. That was a meafare
I only to be ufed in cafe of neeeffity ; but the prefent
• Bill was to be continually operating, and might in
many inftances produce great opprefion and hard.
fhips, particularly by the powers given to fearch for
arms by night. He did not mean to fay, that there
might not be cafes in which it might be neceffary to
take arms out of the hands of difaffeded perfons, bat
the prefcnt Bill was, in his opinion, inadequate te
its purpcife, as it would operate to produce a greater
concealment. The bet mode he thought would be
to compel the magillrates to keep a regiftry of arms,
and to grant licences for keeping them. He thought
however that the Bill recently paired for fupprefing
infurredions gave amply fulficient powers to the Go.
vernment, and he did not fee the neceflity of paffing
this Bill in addition. He fhould therefore move that
the chairman do leave the chair, meaning afterwards
to move to pollpone the Bill for three months, con-
ceiving that as it could not be many months before
Parliament would again affemble, there would then
be ample time for difcufSng this fubjed.
Lord HAWKESBURY laid, he had not introdu-
ced the Bill with any arguments in tupport of it, be-
conic it contained nothing new in its principle or
provifione, and not many weeks bad elapfed fince
the principle of this Bill had been diftiodly recog.
nized by the late Adminißration, who propofed a
Bill for continuing an Aft commonly called the
Gunpowder Ad, which contained provilions equally
oppretlive, if fo they could be called, with the pre.
fent Bill. That Bill was pallid by which the At
was continued for (even years, %%MIR it was only
propofed to continue the prefent Ad for two years,
His Noble Friend hid been unfortunate in his allu
lion to Scotland, as in that country the ads of re.
ftraint and coercion had continued for fifty years,
and it was only by a Ready cootie of Government
upon thefe principles that the difcontents there were
at length put an end to ; but then they could not be
made the fobjed of party politics here, as the fources
of there difcontents was in this part cf the ifland trea.
fon. With refried, however, to mild and conciliatory
meafures,nothing could have lath fled the difcontented
in that country but the rettoration of the Pretender.
It was only by a Ready fyflem of Government, to.
gether with old prejudices wearing away, that at
length the neceflity for meafures of coercion ceafed,
znd the population of Scotland had fince ferved his
Majefty with the utmoft bravery and loyalty. The
circumllances of the two countries were, however,
materially different. It was only of late years that
Scotland had been trufted with a national militia,
whilft in Ireland there had long been a national militia
of high charader ; and there was a brave and loyal
yeomanry ; a great number of the population of Ire.
land were likcwife erailted in the army. He did not
with to enter into a long difcuffion of the fubjed;
he fhould merely obferve, that wherever difcontents
I exifted, thi.fe difcontents were not likely to be decrea.
I fed by being made the foible& of party politics. The
1 neceflity of this Bill, from what was known of the
Rate of Ireland, he conceived to be obvious.

The motion for the Chairman leaving the chair
was regazived.

Several Claufes were then gone through without
any amendment.

do the Claufe requiring perfons to regifter their
arms within one month after the firft affixes,
The Eatl of HARDWICKE rofe to make a few
obfetvations upon one of the claufes of the Bill,
which he conceived to be well entitled to their Lord-
Blips' attention ; for, though he admitted the Bill to
be neceffary, and no body lamented the neceffity
more than he did, yet he thought it a matter of duty
to mitigate the feverity of the provifions of the Bill,
as fat as was continent with the efficacy of the law
itfelf. By the claufe to which he referred, any per-
fon having arms in their cuftody after the enllunit
Seffions, for the county in which they refided, with-
out hating regifleted them, will be liable to a penalty
of ten pounds, to be levied by Pale of the foods and
chattels of fuch perfon by wan ant of a hLagiftrate,
or in default of payment, to be imprifoned for two
months. In contemplation and conftsuition of law,
every perfon is bound to know the:ads of the Legit-
lature, and no one can properly plead ignorance of
the law. But when it is confidered that the SelEont
will occur within a very few weeks of the paffing of
the AB, that it is not held, as in England, at the
County Town, but alternately in different parts of
the country, in many inllawces, that even in this
country Atts of Parliament do not immediately
reach even ce:fons of a fuperior defcription ; and
when to this is added, the remote fituation of many
parts of the counties of Ireland, Lord Hardwicke
Paid that he thought it would be proper and equita-
ble for their Lordfhips either to extend the time of
the penalty, or to culture the effedual promulgation
of the law, by providing for its circulation through.
out the country.
Lord REDESDALE agreed with the Noble Earl
in his obfervations upin the propriety of providing
for the due promulgati,m of the Aft, which wcritd
have been perfectly applicable if it had been a to"'
law, infitad of the renewal of an Ad whith
expires k only on the 3111 of July, and was perfeEtly
well krown in every part of Ireland. The law, in

LONDON.

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST ts.

PRICE OF SI OrICS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK:
ConLmoddifiSat 63—for Aughtt 631—um. 51 pr.—Red. 6311
Eieh Bills par. :5. pr.
PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY :
I3snk Stock, n 3 • Bonds. 4s 55. ptems
j per Ci Rad. Ait 6;114 1.. 2. Aan 71
3p. C. Con. An. 63 621 63 6.4 11.1 '4e Rills pa r2s Fem.
4 Pet Cent *llO „ (*:.,. ium. par t . s prem.
.5 per Cent. Navy, 9jit 96 9:i Etslidt Th.:(ets ill. tt s.
iLongAn.sB 5-56di 28 isa6th Coa. for acc. 63..1 6;1 63

Orders were on Monday lent down to Sheernefs
for the failing of the tranfit,orts, having on board the
Rnyal Artilley with their drivers and Ito, les. They
confilt of About 20 fail.

The private letters by the Gottenburgh Mail of
yeaerday, (late, that, the Empe►or AL fiiiNDER ar-
rived at Peterfburth on the r7th ult. but that his
arrival was not announced by any difcharge of can
non, or any other demonftration of joy.—The Mail
contains an account of the military operations at
Stralfund to the 223 ult. but we had previoufly re.
CeivW accounts of fo late a date as the soth.
time the fortrefs had not fur:;.r:dered. The German
Legion did duty for al,: firft time on the 2 tft. On
the fame day, Lord CarcuLaar left Strallund for
Rugen.

The pafEngers who came over in the lin packEt
from Tentingen Rate, that previoully td the failing
of the packet, an exprefs had arrived, Srith inftruc.
lions fr•r all the Engin (hips lying at Tomtingen, to
proceed immediately down the river, below the bat.
tery. This is confidered as a precautionary meafare
to fen:: t!le (hipping, in cafe the French fhould by
fore: or Ilratagcm, get poffetEon of the battery which
comnands the navigati ,n of the Eyder.
rlc following is an extract of one of the letter;
received by the WI Tonningen Mail:—

" BANKS OF THE ELBE, AUG. S.

" It is laid to be among the fecret articles wit!i
Ruffla, that (hould England rejig the pro & ed me-
diation, Rutlia and Put& will ftirrn an alliance with
France, end 11'sit their ports to Britifh (hips and com-
merce, as well as co-operate in fuch farther meafures
of hoftiiities as France (hall then fuggcft to them.—
Auftria and other Powers are to be invited to join
the general league againft Btitain. To induce Auftria
to this, Bmapartc is laid to have rtnn6fed to raife
the Empernr Frare:s's unc!,., the now Grand Duke
of Wurtzburg'i, to the dignity of King of Franconia,
and to add Anfpach, Bayreuth, and Bimherg, to his
Prefent dominions. Bonaparte too. intends to raife
the foe of the late Archduke of Milan, to a vacant
Sot ereignty.

" The Princefs AUGUSTA of Satnny. %; h.) has re•
filed to beinme the tpotife of the new Ki•tg of Weit-
phalia, will, it is raid, give : er hand to the Grand
Duke of Wvittau RG He All the French and Polifh
tae go.ards of NAPOLSON have been crdered to march
to Bolin ; and aloft of the letters from France fay,
that the Fren:b troops will remain in Germany till
peace ji made,, at fea, and England !hall have con-
fented to tl.e eflablit2,ment of a new law of nations,
fecuting the liberties; of the teas, and the indepen-
dence of every flag."

As we announced in part of our impreffion of yef-
terday, Mini(lers have at laff received letters from
Admiral GAILBUIR, belt as they came by the Gotten-
burgh Mail, and not by any cutter or fpecial
mef-
fenger, their contents •re not thought of much im-
portance. The Datil% accounts Rate, that Admiral
Gamma was off the Cattegat on the tR intim,
and he waft have reached Copenhagen by the 3d.—
His approach does not Teem to have given any alarm
to thc Daus; to them tintefort, we may coucluck

the °N.:a of his million is known to be pacific. A
'oeiief Items to gain ground that the two expeditiuns
lately difpatched firm this country, have one anti
the fare Objea in view, as tense accounts Rate that
Admiral Gahtlillsit was lying to in the Baltic, vvait•
ing the coming up of the whole of the tranfports.
Minifters, however, do not expat any thing in the
fhspe of difpatches, refpeCting the operations of Ad
GAMBIWS expedition, until Friday or Satur.
day next.

Yetierday, Colonel HAMILTON, of the Royal
Waggon Train, arrived at the Duke of Yoxes
Office, from Stralfund.

Since writing the above, another Gottenbirrgh
Mail has arrived, bringing the following important
intelligence :

Extra& of a letter from Gottenburgh, dated 3d of
Auguft, 1807
The Englifh stoop of war Mofqnito, arrived here
the day before yefterday, when an officer landed from
her for the parpofe of procuring pilots for the Belts,
but without fUccefs ; and yefterday the Englifh fleet
deftined for the Baltic paffed this place ; thirty fail
were feen from our rocks; as the wind has been very
fair they mutt bcfore this time have reached Copen-
hagen.
" Private letters from Copenhagen, received by
yeßerday's poft Rate, that General Bernadotte (the
Prince of Ponte Corvo), was with the Prince Royal
of Denmark, at Keil, and that a large French army
waited his commands ; if this be true, the Englifh
Fleet could not have arrived at a more critical j.inC-
ttue. We have no news to day from Stralfund."

Advice% were yefle day received from Monte Video,
dated May 27, at which time General CIAUFURD
had not arrived, nor had any thing cccurred worthy
of r.otice.

Givernment yeltcrday received difpatches from
the Cape vf H ape.
We announced yefterday that a Board of Field
Officers of the Royal Artillery, of which Lieut. Ge•
neral FARRING r:.N is at the head, is arrived on the
KEllliih Coaft from Woolwich, fcir the purpofe of de-
termining on the belt mode of defence to he adopted
for the Mirtello towers. Among the officers corn. II
stolo-7, the Board arc General Twists, Colonel.,l
CUPPAGE, 21X0)1, the commandant of
the Ordnance in that diftt, R.

P_fadi:-g. has been fixed upon by Government as
the place of rttidence for Dom PASCUAL Rutz
Ilvtuoaan, the Spa:lifh Governor of Monte Video.
Tice late unfortunate Admiral ViLLENEUVA experi•
ence,: every token of liberal attention from tlae hof-
pirality of that tow!, and neighbourhood, which his
dittinguifited, but ill-requited merit could entitle
him to, and it is to be hoped that the Spanifh Go.
vernor may iire to enjoy an opportunity of recording
the civilities of Engliliimen among his more generrus
countrymen, which was denied to the unfortunate
French Admiral.

Glafgow h the fitft city in the kingdom which
has completed a monument to the memory of Lord
Net.sos. The building was finilhed a few days ago,
when it was decn•ated with four flags, and three
cheers were given by the workmen on the top, and
a great concoutfe fpea.ttors of embled on the
Green. The v diets at the Bronmielaw alfo had their
flags hoifled all day nn the occalion. The mnbument
hands on the High Green, is 145 feet high, and is to
be the termination t.t Clyde-lireet. The Committee,
we under-IL:id, have received a number of appro.
priate infcriptions, but have not yet determined on
the one to be pref..rred.
It is flid that after the battle of Eylati, Navotann
offered terms of peace to PruiTia ; he required no.
thing Not the cefliun of lands beyond the Wefer.—
The 1;tm: rs AS not ditinclined to accept thefe terms,
and advited with the Emperor ALstAiintra, who
would nt t content to his Infing a foot of land.—By
the Treaty of Tittit the latter has changed thefe fen.
(intents. He has ceded nothing hut a paltry elate
in Ea:t (Jever), which belonged to the Em-
prets CATHERINE in her bwn right ; and, as an, in.
denitaricatinn, receives an handfome addition to his
Pnln territory !
EXTRACT i.F A LETTER TROIS MONTS 11010, DATED

APRIL 26, 1807.
" A Flag of Tt uce was fent up to Buenos Ayres
fome time ago, to propofc an exchange of prifoners,
which the Spaniards rejected ; in confequence of
which all the Spanifh Officers at Monte Video, that
are prifoners, have been fent on board of (hips to ?,,o
to En:iland ; but about eight days ago we fent ano.
ther flag, to repeat the offer, and to inform them,
that it an antwcr did not arrive within eight days
they b: fent off at the expiration of that time.
The A. Y of truce returned about half an hour ago,
teje6ing the propofal a fecund times although the
iliongett appeals that humanity could fuggell were
made to the pafons now in power at Buenos Ayres
by the unfortunate wives and families of the puifo.
nets taken at the liege of Monte Video, which only
procured parniflion for them to write to their hub.
bands, before they failed: and never was there a
permiffi, n granted with a more villianous and cruel
defign, f)r no 13oner had the poor creatures written
than both they and their letters were (cited, by the
wretches in power. It is neceffary to inform you
that a great many of the officers that defended
Monte Video, were relidents of Buenos Ayres, and
that they left their wives and families at home, who
made the above appeal, and who new have their
miferies doubled."

Bread was ordered by the Lord Mayor yefferday
to be continued at the fame price as IA week, viz.
t tic'. the (pattern loaf of wheaten, and tc.id. houfe•
hole.

rt Oa Thurtday lall, at Hammerfmith, a farmer's
(avant drank, for a trifling wager, a quart of Hol-
lands in the (pace of four minutes, the limited time
was (even minutes, after which he immediately left
the public houfe where he drank it, and was found
in an adjoining field, about an hour after, in a flee
of total infenfibility, and notwithftanding every atflf-
lance was rendered him, he cspiccd in a few hours.

SECOND EDITION.

STAR OFFICE;