Star.
London, England, 1809-02-17 00:00:00

iffriPsokaPirgit,of all he httd*deliott the %-
town. • .
dared tgAt.
ti* g4o.lbif -41;a4°1 4e
he had put it in that particular forhi from 2. Wing,
fineards the 4911,14ra1?1, Qeseleman: ked,/igh..)
Darin ft theexqintnApp anit last might, be
had observed tat quOlifiltsfied been put in an rode-;
tinite.roiln„to Which answers 34ad been that
not prove satisfactory .to.,,any body. Tce
ambiguity, therefore, he.had put the question:in a
direct shape, ffor in order to.a d the HimonrableMeni-,
her an opportunity olgiring an answer. It; was the
Honourable Member Who had. the conversation with
Mrs:Clatlce, and it Was lie, therefore, that was mull,
petent to draw the conclusion, not those who wax.
not parties to that conversation. In telling the Com:
mittee that they could draw dr^ conclusion, the HO-
iiourable Member admitted that he Chuld'draw it him:
self, and consequently could answer the question.
Mrr WHITBREAD thought it possible that h
pronai>e Might have been understood where there had
been none made. He appealed for a confirmation of
this statementtaull those, on either side of the House,.
-who had, been in office, to whom it often happened to
give rise to constructions of promises. where only kind
language May have been used in reply to applications
foi appointments.
Mr. LOCKHART rose to order, and Said that it
was very iruegular for any Gentlemant.when another
was examined as a witness, to give an explanation of
the evidence to be iven.by the other.
Mr:WHITBREAD denied that he was giving
,any such explanation'as that imputed, to him by the
Learned Gentleman. He was contending that it was
likely his Honourable Friend had not made any direct !
promise, and was stating case to illustrate his '
argu-
ment. • I
•
Mr. 13AR.HAM considered the question as highly
objectionable. This was not a question of. fact,•but
Of construction. The Committee had cautioned wit-
news to answer only to such Matters as were within
their own knowledge- Yet his"Honeurable Friend
was now called upon ih state notiwhat was within his
own knowledge, nor his own opinion, but the opinion
of another. The Member (who. put the question)
had done his duty inputting it, and. left it inthe Ho-
nourable Member to answer it as he should think fit,
and to the Committee to decide upon the sufficiency
or insufficiency of the answer.
Mr. WARDLE declared, that he knew not how
to answer the question. He could not recUllect that
he had ever. positively made any promise. •
. Mr. NV:WYNNE observed, that it was impossible.
for his. Honourable Friend to state what impression
the expressions he used on the occasion might have
made .upon the mind of Mts. Clarke.
:The question was then read, and the answer of the
Honowable Member, when the Honourable Member
who put the question proposed that
.a later statement
of the Honourable Gentleman " that he did not know
how to answer it," should be added to it.
Mr. MARTIN thought the answer as full as it
could be, but certainly could not accede to the pro-
position of the Learned Member, that any chilli; which
had not been stated in the answer should be inserted

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Cu.iscre LOTI 0f,...
the
xclivot7Ect.—The Abi LOSS.
that I .should not call Mr. A,eid
✓ be a.,surccl,
` .• if it were not absoltaWy tycessary;
- I proP^`-.. • • ~- •
l',r„. ct:Aatki.—lf it e tair, I s'oot'lli wish ctet take
• '.,,nee of this Honourable House upon the question.
t-a • ,
•',/ugri• ;.
IC STONE hibyed that the -vitties
'
• ' *.thdr.ilr • and ArideA, that though, it 'vas'
N% I .
for the Committee to entertain the propo•
or even to suffer it to rema4i: npon the Mi-
, Tet he put it to the Right Innonrable Gentili;
r...,..;;,,'is..hether he would persist in hit intention'to
Mr Reid to the Bar whilst the.,i'ithet Witness
~Ic'there, inasmuch as she had adniitt&l that his
dement of the wine was correct.lr . •- ' •
appeared, after some short delay. ttat Mr, Reid
not in attendance ; when Mr. Huskts.so 'Conk
....•t opit,-.-tunity to ask the HonoUrable Member
W.iims) a few questions. •
' wih to know whether Mrs. Clarke put the
iciters intos the Honourable Member's hands, avoiv-
,rs with a view to facilitate some negcitiation, and
`cat.irg that to be her object ? A- She did ear sOrnez.
to that effect about ohta iniia:7 signatures for the
-
rninod.ttion of officers, though I do not.remein-
What answer did you give her on the
cision ? A. I. believe 'I said that my friencts tat oh
•;,,e wrong side of the Houie, and that nothing could
hc dQ. one.
when yOu stated that yourfriends -fat at the
vrong side of the House, 4id you.give..Mrs.:Clarke
Tticoa to suppose that you. would coinpli.witk her
Wheg. I heard her note read, last night,
/ h•
ad certainly. not the most. distant idea of what it
Tema, nor till then •had any recolleetilon of the,cir-
the letters which *ere put into
ca rricti the three le:-
nee..—Q, Weie
v,ur hinds to facilitate the negociation,
rrancel this night, or the letters referred to in
letter to Mr. Donosin of the 28th January ? A.
"Chi' letters referred to in the letter of the
:28th cif
r. had been on the-table of the House, before
i".? note List night read, had been written, .Or very
I had the letters 'respecting the Dealieries
Queen long before I ha 4 these letter's produ-
t•
o'.uight.—Q, Then we are tip' understand-that
letters referred to in the letter of the 28th; of 'Ja.
•
;.;ary, as having ben givin to fachtatc. some nego•
aim, were not the letters described in the letter to
Mr.. Donovan ? A. 1 conceive that to be iMpostible,
I?:.cause I hadithe former letters long before the others.
_Q. Were you aware that one of the letters was hi
t!t: hatid-writing of Mr. Donovan ? A. I certainly
was not. I hardly ever looked at them till this day,'
Cut I mow perceive that one of them is a copy of the

On the mOtion• of Mr. Locicitaar, that part of the
erideiice of Mrs. Clarke, in which .she states that Mr.
Waitur had proinised her to procure the signatttres
.d Members of Parliament to recommendations of
'Offir.ers, Was read. :
Q. (By Mr. LOCKHART.), Is the statement of MrS.
Clarke true ? A. I hare before stated, that when
Yrs. Clarke gave, me the letters, I said, that ,my
tinds W.4e.:on.the wrong side,, or something to that
eiTect,—(2, Did yOti. Make her the promise she states?
certatilly zave.tier no
.direct or poSitive promise.
1.4 y said what.l have already several times repeat-
gl.—Q, Ditl„ yOU .directly or indirectly make her
he promise she, slates ? A. I. have answered that
alreadrrepeatedly. I never said more to
Mrs. Clarke upon the occasion than I have stated to
the House.. •
Q. (By a Mthiber..). I wish to put a question to
the Rm.() areite Merril/4' in such a shape as will ena-
ble him to give a direct ausWer. 4s the statement of
firs. Clarke- true or false A. After having most
psitively stated all I know of ivhat passed on the
cca;intt, I think the orlO pdraesbi le the
e Member
question nlay
maydras
:he conclusion hitnsel. I
lie repeated.
Irlinn this. Mrß. BATHI_TikST begged to ob-
ie:ve, that when one of their ova Members was call-
e! nn to give evidence 'in his_plaCe, he 'stood in the'
erne situation'aS anYe.other witness. "No 'witness- in
a Conit of Justiie Votild venture to make his state-
!•••.;•nt, and then tell the Judge and the Jury to draw
•l,eir own conchis;ons, in a similar case He them
v-ar, of opinion that the Hon. Member
,was
to answer the question.
Mr. MARTIN contended, that the rpieition was
'merely a repetition of a question that had been sere-
ral answered. Did the , Honourable Member
71: nn to ask whether the general statement of Mrs.
(*171,:e was false ? The Right Honourable Gentle-
who had just sat down appeared tohim to have
into a misapprehension respecting the practice
1, to evidence in Courts of Justice ; for unquestion-
)!)' it would be a sufficient answerto a repetition of
ilaestion in any Court of Justice. to • say that the
:•I.,tion had been already answered by the witness.
,Mr. BATHURST.dcnied that the question of the
Member had yet been answered.
Mr. WHITBREAD agreed with the Right Hon.
,
,entleman, that the question, Whether the state.
^lent of Mrs. Clarke be true or false ?" had not yet
keen answered ; but the question had been put in a
,hape which appeared to be pressing hard upon a
'Member of that House. ( No, no, no !) His Hon.
i•riend had often declared what he had said to be,
.hat his friends sat upon the wrong Side of the House.
—lt was possible that Mrs. Clarke might understand
words of his friend to imply the promise she stated.
he and his Hon. Friend might • have a different un-
toding of the conversation that passed on the
::-Non. But though he admitted that the question,
• or false," had lint been answered in a direct
• ~i?e by his Hon. Friend, he contended that it had
t•=:•i repeatedly answered in substance.
Mr. WARDLE had no hesitation to answer the
Member's question, if he had known how. He
ILS certainly anxious to get the letters, and had al-
Ntated all that passed ; hut •it was impossible
to say.what may have been the impression
the mind of Mrs. Clarke.
Tl-ic ATTORNEY GENERAL observed, that
• • u could he no doubt of the propriety of the ques-
',.:.• Mrs. Clarke had stated that the Honourable!
:Iwr had made her a promise, and the Honoura-
Member denied that he -had made any direct
premise. The nett clu-istion, therefore, to ask, was,
whether the Honourable Member had made to her
7‘.), direct or indirect promise, and surely there could
1,-'• no offence in that.; •! '
Mr. WARDLE again stated, that he had.nb oh;
_lion to answer that question... He,never had made
~ Clarke any positive premise, and had already

in it.
Sir THOMAS TURTON asked whether the Ho-
nourable Member had given Mrs. Clarke reason to
suppose that he would comply with. her wishes ? And
Mr. BATHURST and the ATTORNEY-GENERAL pressed
for an answer, whether the Honourable Gentleman
had directly or indirectly given any promise, such as
that stated by Mrs. Clarke ?
. Mr. WARDLE replied, that whether or not his
answer, and the circumstance ofhis having taken away
the letters, might have indirectly led her to suppose he
would comply, was more than he could say.
Mr. SUMisTER called. the attention of the Com-
mittee to the difficulty in which the shorthand writer
was placed, from the intermixture of. evidence :ad.
discussion.
The CHAHINIAN had observed this difficulty', and
would be happy to be instructed by Ow Committee
how to obviate it. .
Mr. Rely was again called for, but was not in at-
tendance.
Mr. BERESFORD rose to put a few questions to
the Hon. Member (Mr. Wardle), whilst the Com-
mittee was at a stand waiting for the witness.
Lord FOLKESI4ONE rose to order. He thought
the proceeding which had just taken place, of the
most indecent description. The witness who was
under examination had been ordered to withdraw at
his instance, because he thought it would not be
proper to call in the other witness while she was still
at the bar. That suggestion had, however, been
over-ruled, and Mr. Reid was called for; bat when
it was found that he was not in attendance, the Gen-
tleman opposite had resorted to a kind of interlude,
in a course of indecent examination of his Honourable
Friend, in order to eke out the time till their wit-
nesses should arrive. He must add, that it'was no
improper representation of the whole to call it a highly
indecent, improper, and indecorous proceeding.
Mr. BERESFORD replied, that the representa-
tion made by the Noble Lord of his conduct, was
neither a faithful, a just, nor a true representation.
He had not communicated with any body about him
as to the questions he had to put, and had acted solely
upon a sense of his duty, thinking the time' he rose
the most convenient to put his questions to the Ho-
nourable Member. Unless the Committee should
stop him, he should, if not then, at least before he
left the House, put those questions to the Honour-
able Member.
Lord FOLKESTONE disclaimed any idea of ac-
cusing the Honourable Member of having communi-
cated with others. It was- the whole tenor of the exa-
mination that he corn plained of.
The CHANCELLOR of the' EXCHEQUER
begged to offer an observation on the censure which
the Noble Lord had thought proper to cast upon
some persons whom he chose to consider as a corpo-
rate body, in bestowing that censure for the course
which the examination had taken. The object he
had himself in view, ;n calling in Mr. Reid was, that,
as MT. Reid had given evidence as to the female who
passed at his hotel as Mrs. Dowler, and •it was ins;..
possible. he could state her to have been the. witness
at the ,bar, •he might; by appearing•with her at the
bar, be enabled to ascertain that fact. Upon in-
wasionnd-that Mr. Reidavas not in
' attentlanceysnd whilst the C.ommittet.had to wait for
his appearances `he was himself preparedrto make that
§t sent, to which he proposed to call, the.attention
of the Conabittee after_ the case was doted 9111 the.

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, the apimadvenipe, whiel§egatt gatpiinglip and by -,surnrise,.,vraa thk all tlxit pllssed • A., it jo:)-l;;;;
.wal• afterVv;irdS exferided to Others:
r4Lirid was to my cipinion,-7,9.. Was there any pipe, : slieslou w:-•i
..riett. y.etceme, if the Conamitieemulds.entlat hilniaid PO a 4 the *ell 4, There spas g erne, Sty.' iig:
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-the other dentlernen open .whem7,the Noble ,Lord'si he had better wait. 7:41,. Then yea.. hoelialtaeld 41., f:,
*crn`stifre'hd fallen, and would consent to let tbewat- A.:There. was
.a... stote atot.inisatecliatatly frern .Mi .s. ;•,„
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ter „rest here, he teat
.pielared in. state a tact:whisk Clerlfe,torini ;Alin hi; flotibted.:m..ekNaud .this note T,
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:had been tee. c.r, , twelyedays in bis.)cnowledge, and recommended-him to viai§,-•s-Q. Xlmin.you did ore an /
avliielt had been communicated tit aeveral Gentlemen argument to perstrade. gaptaini ,Toßys' 11, a:Litt-lip, ~
up:in both sides oldie House. ! gelid: reserved the producing & npte ?-. .44 cietpoNlinc,Ait,-”Q. was..:
commeolfaticut of .this fact- till', the .case had .been the, note.frem *.i,. clipke..tfi,,yoersel4 ,satiker?.ll.4
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cigseii. conceiving that the most faVourable eppiartu- Captain Tasty! 44, betierattait ? ~A.,:l.*.,ll4itjzONN
nity'for its introduction. . He begged to state, that .whom it was ,444eitise4 to ; it avassarsc.?"4:l4:P•loer ;L:
if there appeared any impropriety in withholding it i it desired hint to wait„-for
.a.few c.,q,sets4.--4,,e,. itisk .4
from the Committee so Tong, that impropriety was :you see Mrs. Parke whir elite wee ?.,, 4, 4 4t„...04,4,4,c,.,
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his own : his Royal Highness was.most.anxious that,, collect.—Q. Are you quiieteare yeupee.,eivtigfit front
the communication shbuld be made. The circum- her ? A.. I. am quite state. ,•-- : :Y" .. -i ; :.'•
stance to which he beggedto call their attention, was 1 Q. Did you see her , more .slian.. 012c.41/10:94 mib-,-
[ the suppression of a most material testimony, relating ject ? A. I do not recollects -R- War leis-more ...z
to the charge respecting Major Tonyn. That charge, than one note ? A. , I .4i). rpt•itivellikerk arfiiNt W1r.4....e
' as. it now stood, rested upon .the evidence of Mr. did you do.with the note, clidryott give itlgel.:a'aptaihi.,:s.
Donovan and Captain Huxley. Sander;. for the part Tonyn? A. I do not rernantrer.:—QsArg yob quite ~ •
which ,Mrs. Clarke had in the case, was trifling
.and sure you saw Mrs. Clarke nrite ity was it ;her. hasid. '''.
unimportant.--{Here the HonourableA.
Member read . writing? A. I can't say—l-rather thin it•fwas.-4e.r:,,1,
paYi of the evidence of them Gentlemen, particularly ;,Have you always stated this part of the; glitf.ilistbir•v-
.of Captain Sandell,. in which he mentionedas having . same way ?A. I think I have.—Q. Did •Toa trier., r
wevailed on Captain Tonyn to, wait for a few days - tell any one it was the hand-writing, of theDuiseafell
longer, when he was anxious to withdraw his memo- ;York ? A., I auf quit. comfiest J • never elitist,i.Q...v
randum from Mrs. Clarke.)--He could not, he : When: did you first hear of the trial of •the ]'l2lr2 4.-,1
thought, more correctly introduce. the suppression York? A. Last month in.the Newspapers.-Qc. Dies,
which he rose to notice, than by stating how be ob- you know Colonel Hamilton ? A. Yes, I beloaglio 0
tamed the information. About last Saturday se'n- . the same regiment.—Q. Did you represent: this .Isubirls
night he had received a letter, by Colonel Hamil- .siness to him? A. Yes, I asked his advice, -I .rePlifYIL
ton, from -Mr. Adam. This Colonel Hamilton , sentee what I have already,stated.; all I knew of shirr)
commanded the baggage corps in which Sanden i mauer.Q. . Was it exactly what you stated. notvik- -.
was a Captain. Colonel Hamilton stated, that un- iA. Yes.—Q. Did ,ou not state to CoronelHaenattaiil
derstanding. Captain Sanden to beladquainted with 1 that it was the Duke .of York's wilting? ~.&-Ilkk).1--;ft
something of the affair before that House, he desired 1 Q. Dili you shew him the note ? A.:.(itad not these*
hith to relate all he knew of the subject. Captain to shew.—Q. Did you not give him. a topy (fate()
Sandell accordingly acquainted him with many cir- note you gave Captain Tonyn? • A., I ,do, sot mumbo
. cumstances; all those, with the . exception of one, —Q. You must surely knewahat fact ? A.arcintainey i
he stated at the bar, and that one was the material , bring it to my recollection:-AQ„.lf.yon bad asetigre tit
suppression which he (Mr. Perceval) had risen to ex- I note in your possession, you can surelylsal. whathiatr
plain. Captain, Sanden had stated to the Colonel, 1 you gave him an opportunity of copyipg 'cot :ntai
that upon learning the dissatisfaction of Major iA. r rather think there was something-ot:the note,--=••s•
Tonyu, and his intention to withdraw his security,' Q. Do you mean to say that there was or' was iitott!i',
he told it to Mrs. Clarke. She bade him go. back, I note, referring to the snbject, which you'skevrtd CO-
and endeavour to persuade him to wait; and, in' lonel Hamilton ? A. I think there .was,r-Q....Was -:
order to induce him to think th'at she had infiueuce `that the same that, you sheaved Majof Tonyn ?: •lir 4.:
with his Royal Highness to effect his business, she Ido not recollect, I suppose it must.-;-Q.- Did yoitratili ..
gave him a letter, purporting to. be a, letter from the i Colonel Hamilton you bad the note, add :ShewsslilV
Duke of York to her, acquatuting her -that Captain 1 to-him? A.. Ido not recollect.—Q. Your Inetnuar
Tonyn's business was in a -state of, forwardness, and ! is generally more Correct on the second setostionineat.;
would be done. limas the production of this paper I did you shew him -the-note.? -A: 1 did..—Qc :11tign
• that induced the Major to wait for a few Gazettes, on 1 you recollect there was a note, and that yoomshessigi-
the next of wi-;.-h he was appointed. There was ano- lit to him ? ... A. Yes.-.- Q. Whereisaahe nute...?.: 7. ikyfk.
ther letter shewn him, purporting to be from the same ,i beleve.l mislaidit.—Q, When- alid--yon see :tithe
personage ;it stated, that Captain Tonyn should be lA. About six days ago.- - : • . - - .-1- . -a a:
appointed that night. Captain sanden told the. Co- Q. Have you looked for it iately? Yes' i e9erahet.
lonel that he might destroy this letter t. but was de- and the.-.daybefortrs-Qt When this note, :whiehs,ysiw
sired by him to destroy it on no account, as he might 1:could not recollect, is still in existence? ; Bit.:lt,ist, -;t4
be called in evidence before the House. As soon as I could have found it, 1 Aleuid have btettot icik -
Colonel Hamilton came to town, he told his Honour- Q. I think you were examined about . six
.4,ies iigkA
able Friend opposite, (Mr. Adam) who desired that A. About ten.—Q. Did you set the note thatetis., 4
he Would go to Captain Sanden, and repeat his in-1 A. Either the day after or the day before.—Q.:Harsi
junction again, and request that he would not destroy 1 you done all you could to find it
.? A., Yea ; I, ant;
the note. Captain Sanden, on his arrival in.tovrn, quite sure I have.—Q.. Did colonel. Hamilton desirq
heard that, he was to be examined by Mr. Lowton, and you not to destroy that paper ? A. He desired me
also was to see Mrs. Clarke ; he stated this to the Co- not to destroy anyer-Q. But did he. not caution, you
lonel, who mentioned it to the Hon. Gentleman oppo- against destroying that in particular ?. -A. :Yes,,. c;e
site, and he communicated it. to him, (Mr. Perceval); did.—Q. Did he not bid. you not destroy it in I'eCts,
the result was, they advised Captain Sanden to avoid mouth ? A. 11l wished to de trey it l cOnisi de so,
seeing either party, and give his evidence fairly to the without speaking to him.-.(. Did ypu 'tot sell him
House, without any previous communication.— you had the paper ?A. No.—Q. When di,} (i'e 4.10.
The other point that occurred to them was to ex- Hamilton take the copy ? A. The day aftertrp crc
plain the matter to the Dnke of York, and his Learned to town.—Q. Where slidhe, take it.? A.,Latslae. cciir
and Honourable Friend (Mr. Adam) undertook to fee-house in Southampton-row.—Q, 'Whew hetes*
mention. it. They thought that, consistently with ' the copy, did he not bid you again not to destrOsY:44
their duty as Members of Parliament, they could not A. Yes.—Q. Did you see.Cotpnel Hamiltoostigaia
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refuse to make it public.—(Hear! hear!)—Colonel the same day ? A. Yes.; at the British , tto., ftip,
Hamilton had seen the note, and taken a copy of it house.—Q. What conversation had , you; tife:t.P., ,4.
from Captain Sanden. When it was stated to his It was on regimental business. - •‘' s - -:: ) .-"
Royal Highness, he had no recollection of having Q. Had it any reference to this,business?. A. lea
written any such note, and WAS of opinion that it —Q. Did be not give you the. Settle advice at-tfais
must be a forgery ; he was desirous that it should be interview ? A. All I know is, he 'bade nio ucito
obtained and examined. With respect to the latter destroy any papers, but- that was the sevon4 time I
note, mentioning the day that Major Tonyn was Ga- had seen him. Ido notrecollect that any tiiiin,tpaesed
ward, his Royal Highness could not say but he might at the British Coffee•house.—Q. :Did ,lie. npt...Atlvise
have written it ; had a simple inquiry, whether he you not to suffer. yourself to be examined bg4ose,yqu
would be Gazeikd or notrbeen made, he might possi- came to the bar of this House,? A. Idatiliev:zustc,
laly have returned an answer in the affirmative. The Q. • Did he not caution. you, at the, British . 4..)ssffee-
next day, which was Sunday, they saw Col. Hamiltou; house, not to destroy that ,note ? .A. I L. noof,col.
he said that Ca pteSanden was willing to come forward, lect.—Q. Did he at, any place . since the So athamiston
but had said thim,‘“ am afraid youwill beextremely 1 Coffee-house ? A. 'I do not recaect.,...Q„ipi4J, a
angry with. me- for since I saw you last I have de- I ever say you had destroyed the Raper t.. A.-, Martel
stroyed the paper.''--Colonel Hamilton replied--- i conversation took place between use--Q. Di,Lyou ev.r
66 Good Goo, have you ?" This circumstance hiviing i tell Colonel Hamilton yoli had any etheepaper beside
been stated by Colonel Hamilton to him and to other 1 that you shoved Major 'Tonyn ? A. 4,g014,..t not tell
Gntlemen of the- Ho: ...., , they determined to permit i him so, for I had none. .
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Captain Sauden to tell his own story, and the House -. Q. Did you not tell him? A. No.--,Q,. glen
must have observed that he suppressed the mention did you see the paper last ? A. Five fa- six, (Says ago.
.-:-Q Where ? 4. In my own r00m..-.Qt-i.I-laxe you
of this letter, so material to the case before them g—
forlf it-could-he got, and prove' to be a forgery, it seen it since you were examined i. A. ,hi..—Q. ,Dint
would shesv how Mrs. Clarke was in the habit of im- 1
you not say you did before or after that day ?. A.
posing ;on the contrary, if it were proved to be an- 'That was the time I saw it.,-.-Q: :Did any; body etse
thentic, it would go to countenance the charges sub- see it at that time ? A. Not that I recollec!;—Q. Did
mined to their judgment. Under these circumstances, i you skew it to any body besides Colhnel.llamilton
he thought witness should be called. He was confi-
since ? . A. Not that I recollects—Q. Wiwseidid you.
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(lent that the Committee would not-ascribe the delay !Tut it when you. saw it last . .•A..ln rrkg4,4,3re22,
of the mention of this circumstance to any improper 1 among other papers.—,Q. Are you quiwciluvept
ll motive. His Honourable Friend and himself had 1 you have not it AO' I . 4A.,.1 'lave artislaid,kimme-
communicated it to different friends in their respee- where.—Q. Where do ypu-live? A. LO LYtio'slloft.
Q. (By EarlTeurta.)-Yousteted. that Mas.Clasice
gam you .the note, .clid you read it when,shega,ve it
tive circles, but it was not from any feeling that the. ga.
Committee would have a want of reliance upon them-
selves ;he therefore proposed-that Capt. H. Sanden ,to you ?A. Lhelieve I did.-..Q.: WAS itlettled.or
should be called to the bar, lopen.? A. Open,-..-Q.--W4ere did yob lodge *fore
Mr. ADAM cerroborated the statement of the Right 1 you went abrsad.l. A...iNt liyon'sl-Inn. --. ..
Honourable Gentleman. Alter which. Captain SAN_ . , Qe•Did , you ha* your -papery there ? • A._ Cer-
DEN. was called in. . tainlys,!-. Q. 'To whew Was -the-note iiiirected.t A. I
Q. (By Mr. PERCEVAL.) You were examined the . do -not lerollict whethir .them. was et% ad.lress,..,9.
o:her day; did you state all the circumstances you were !-Didlou veadit when Mrs, i~ihisvititiklb,cl44 is:o4._you?
acquainted with respecting the transaction.? A. Yes,• A.: I. donot recollect' it hisppemienearly five *ears
to the best of. my recollection..-Q. Did you notkeep ago: • .a..-. . • ': .. -,i'l-f•i- :;'i :,,..:
back any important fact ? A. No, as well as:tread-. . ..,Q. (By Mr. entreat:am.) Did fess- receiva.any.. re-
lect,• I did not.—Q. You said, that ..when Captain 'Pe. icuttiary.iconsidarationt • for •tbe Cosseting ..14 rajor
.nyirgot impatient, you prevailed on his to wait i Ai; Touts ?.. A. I.tot. at farthing.—Q..T.lwo,whyl.svere
Yes, these were my words as well as I recollectl-;- • yOtt 10 o°4ms • that be' 'should' wait tlgo or three
Q. Did you make use of any arguments to persuade days longer-? A, To obligeeMrs.,Claske, who ,metn-
him that Mrs. Clarke had influence with the Duke of. ted money.—Q. WetietyontianfidWahelwoo3o.4"e.4a-

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