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10. jainwantwr of the VOTES of the FORTY-FIVE IREPRESENThTIVES of SCOTLAND, on the 15th of November, 1830,
on the Motion fm the appointment of a Select Committee, to take into consideration the Accounts relating to the civil List, presented t the

SCOTTISH VOTERS ON THE CIVIL LIST.

Maw by command of his Majesty.

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A rgyleabire ... • • ...
Ayrshire .. ... ... ...
DI nff s b i r e .. ... ...
Berwickshire ... ... ...

... ... ___
Buteabire. &c. .. . •
asekmar.saasbire. 1ke....
Ihmbaneembire ..••

Dstmfri.s shire ...
WM) resskire •• •
Elgin and Morayshire& ...
Fifeshire .. • • •••
Foto-shire •• • ...
Haddingtonshire

Kirkcudbrightshire
Lanarkshire ...
Linlithgowshire
N imshire
Orkneystrke
Peebles-shire
Perthshire
Rentrewsbire
koss•shire
hozburgshire
Stirlingshire
&tired odshire
Selkirkshire
Wigtonshire

Fos Mniernam.
tioit: WilGaa Gordon

William Stair
John Morrison
L on. Captain A Maitland
Right Hon. Sir W. Ran

Lord M. W. radt;ts
J. J. Hope Johnston
We George Oak
F. W. Grans

ROYAL BOSOMS.
Aberdeen, Ste. ..
Aostruthe , &c.
Ayr, Irvine, Ste.
Dumfries, Ste.
Dysart, Ike. ..
Rdiaburgh • • •
Right. Ste.
Glasgow, Ste.
'fleetness, Ace. ...
Jesburgh, Eke. ...
Linlithgow, &e.
Perth, ...
Stirling.
Ten, Ike.
igtor, , Sts.
Total ...
We think it

Lord Jobe May
Hon. H. Arbuthnot.

Hoe. Marks Douglas
Hilo. Sir ♦. Hops

Sir 0. Murray, Q.C.B.

Sir J. W. Mackenzie
Henry F. Scott
H. H. Drommood
Lord F. 1. Gower
A. Prinsle

Sir And;ew Agnew

Sir James Carnegie
J. Ballow

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Hight Hon. W. Donde.
A. Campbell
Jobe Bernie
Colonel A. Dalrymple
Henry Mooteith
Hon. S. Wortley

James Lock

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.• e _ may be satisfactory to our readers to see the ,
Scots Representation. on the late division on the Civil List, and we be-
lieve a result nearly similar will be found if the votes on any question
of importance in former Parliaments are exambicd.
Although Mr. William Dundee has said that the people of Edin-
burgh aM of Scotland are satisfied with the state of their representation,
'we altogether differ from him • and believe that not many weeks will
pass over before the people of Scotland, by the most unequivocal evi-
dence, prove that the right honourable gentleman is in error. But if
the people of Scotland were satisfied, ought the people of Esibred to be
satisfied with the state of the Scottish Kepresentation ?

STATEMENT Of the VOTES Of the FOURTEEN REPRESENTATIVES
of the County of Surrey, " on the Motion for a &lett Committee on
the Civil List," Nov. 16, 1830.

PLACE. WANE. TOL AG. A).
_........ ---.....................-.. ..-.........
Dennison, W. J. ... ... :
County .. MACON J. 1. • • • .
Mills, R. W .. ...
Bletchingly .. Tennyson, C.
Hope, J. T.
Gatton ... Shelley, J. V.
Wall, C. B. B. .. ...
Guildford ... Sumner, Holmc ... ...
Beckett, Slr J.
Haslemere .. Holmes, W.
Cocks, James
Ryegate .. Yorke, Sir J.
Wilson, Sir Rohl. .. ..
Southwark ..
16 4 3
lu the County of Burg then are dues of those called Close or Bet.

Au the County . —.as are three of those called Close or Pat-
ten Burghs, via. Bl singly, Genoa, and lisidemers, each ender the
will of one great Man; and their Representatives, consequently,
are merely Nominees to support or oppose the Ministers, as the Patron
thinks fit to order.

Asainwr Mammas.

The Burgh of Ryegate is nearly a close one also, and
the Members in former Parliaments have Invariablyi sup.
ported or opposed the ministers whom Earl Sommers support or op.
posed ; and they would in all probability have no rot if they had
been present on the 16th inst.
The representation of the county, and Southwark, are certainly open
and popular ; but, of what advantage to the people of Surrey are the
votes of the county members (however independent they may beHin the
Nouse of Commons, when their votes are neutralised by the two mem-
bers for the rotten burgh of Hatton P—The votes of the members for
Southwark will, in the same manner, be neutralised by the votes of the
members for Haslemere.

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In short, the people of Surrey, and of the United Kingdom, would
have a better chance for good government, and for relief from their heavy
burdens of taxation, if the county of Surrey did not send one member to
parliament ! ! I
The state of the representation of this wealthy and populous county
of Surrey, after this exhibition, will, we think, be thought a sufficient
ground for amending it, by such reform as may appear proper. At any
rate we, and-we think the nation at large, differ from the Duke of Wel.
lington, in thinking that the people of Surrey are not satisfied with the
present state of the House of Commons.—Morning Chronicle.

THE Ki%G'S VISIT TO THE CITY.

A requisition to the Lord Mayor, to convene a Court of Common
Council, was signed on Thursday by upwards of 100 members of the
Court. The object is to discuss the propriety of again requesting that
his Most Gracious Majesty will be pleased to appoint a day for visiting
his faithful citizens of London at the Guildhall, which still remains in
a state of almost complete preparation, The moat sanguine hopes are
entertained by the Corporation, that the invitation will be moat favour-
ably and promptly answered. The Court of Common Council will, of
course, studiously avoid making any application to his Majesty until a
new Administration shall have been formed.
We understand that the Queen exptessed great regret to the Lady
% Mayoress, at the evening party to which her Majesty invited her lmdy-
, ship, that so severe a disappointment had taken place, and hoped that
another and a speedy opportunity would occur. It is also said by aeve.
sal gentlemen, who are in communication with the individuals about
his Majesty's person, that the King has also exhibited a very marked
feeling with respect to the disappointment, and spoke in such a manlier
of the citizens of London as removes all doubt from their minds as to
his Majesty's intention.
Immense numbers visited the Guildhall yesterday with tickets hem
the Committee. The great ball Is seen to We advantage than the other
apartments, as it is not lighted up, and as an essonnous body of light
is requisite to show of the drapery and pier gleams to advantage. In
the latter part of the day the hall is peculiarlyy. The Court of
Aldermen, whidh is called the King's Private, and the Council
Chamber, which is called the King's Drawing-room, are, however,
lighted up, and the visitant are greatly struck with tbp elegant taste dis-
played in the arrangements.

W. F. 'Campbell ..

800. 8.-R. Abaco=Thby

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Captain James Wimps
Hoe. Will. Maul,

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J. Montgomery

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Lard Loughborough

Hon. Goo. A. Dot

J. H. iOvittles

_ 43 members haw Scotland. 29 voted with ntirsms. whist s
committee to inquire into the Civil List, sad seven voted dar the can.
mince ; and of the nine absent members, we believe only three would
have voted for the committee, and six against it making the number of
Scots representatives 33 who support ministers, i.e. nearly 6.7ths of the
whole number.

By reference to the votes of almost every session, it will be found that
the Scots members have supported every kind of abuse in nearly the
same proportion. We only put it to the good sense of the people of
England, whether such a state of the representatives should longer
continue—Morning Chrosiole.

of the magnanimous conduct of the Dutch towards your country, in
1688, whereby it was rescued from the almost inevitable calamities of a
civil and religious war, and the foundation laid of its actual power,
wealth, and grandeur, permit me, Sir, despite of the subtle apostle's in-
sinuation to your good-natured and patriotic King, to direct your re-
collection to the conduct of Frames towards the Government of the
Spanish Cortes—the insurrection of the Oreeks—(where she will
41con-
tinue
to keep past the arming at Paris of the Pontecoulant Brigands
in support of the e rebels—and that of the Spanish Constitution-
alists on the banks the Bidassoa. If your Ministers should submit
to be mptifled by the flattery and arrogance of the Conk& Directeurs.
you will have bitterly to lament the consequences of
.pusillanimous
credulity.
Please to excuse the frankness of a true Dutchman, no less an ad.
mirer of dear Old England, where be has spent the best part of his life,
and enjoyed honours, benefits, and advantages, which he will ever re-
mem be: with feelings of the liveliest gratitude
I am, with great regard, Sir, your obedient Servant,
DAVID It AGAL

SOCIETY FOR THE SUPPRESSION OF JUVENILE

VAGRANCY.

A meeting of the above Societyiras held as Thursday at the British
Coireabouee. Cockspur-street, which was attemded by Lord Viscount
Beigrave, the Right RomWilmot Barton, Captain Brenton, R.N.
Borne, Esq. lir. Sergeant Adams, ike.

Lord Dixon&vs was called to the Chair. Ills Lordship, on taking
the chair, stated that he was most happy in presiding at a meeting which
was likely to be so eminently useful to the meleopolle and the country,
its object being to check crime and stop vice, As prevention was better
than cure, the efforts of the Society would be directed to dry up the
sources of vice. The noble chairman read the following extract front
a pamphlet written by Kandla Jackson, Esq. entitled " Considerations
on the Increase of Crime," viz...." The Surrey return presents a pro.
portion ofjuvenile crime which is perfectly appalling. It appears, out
of the aggregate of 10,427 commitments within the last seven years,
7,292 were under 20 years of age, of whom 370 were under 12, and
several ()Mose, as must be known to the Visiting Committee, were
not more than eight or len years of age." The immense number of
children who were daily tweed on the erects to get their living, no
matter bow, was doubtless a fruitful source of crime, to remedy which
was the object of this Society, and to form a nucleus, se it were, that
might be surrounded by the whole country.
Capt. Bamos, R.N. Hon. Sec. read the Report of a Meeting
which had been held at the Slendicity Society's Office on the tith of
July last, as also of one held at the British Coffee-house on the 22d of
the same month, which stated that there were about 15,000 boys in the
metropolis, children of the poor, who had no visible means of subsist-
ence, and who were, In fact, trained to every variety of vice, b.c. sod
that the unchecked continuance of such a state of things threatened to
sap the foundations of civilised society, by extensively contaminating the
morals of the lower orders, Az. Be further stated, that a society had
been formed at Brighton for the same object, under Dr. King. Captain
Brenton also read a letter addressed to the meeting, signed by eight
respectable housekeepers of St. Giles's, stating, that In their immediate
neighbourhood a very large house was let out at 4d. per night to pick.
pates, prostitutes, and thieves, chiefly from 10 to 16 years of age, who
were seen every morning sallying forth in Hof three and four each,
having previously arranged their routes for y
The Right lion. W. Motto& said, he thought if any thing was
wanting to convince any person of the necessity of such an Institution,
these facts were amply sulicient. The fact of 15,000 boys getting up
every morning, without the means of living, should excite a greater lute.
rest than, 'udging from the numbers preset, he feared it had. It was
to the institutioos of this 1111111/y. We were here to judge
what would be the best means of es pitta this object into effect, which
appeared to be by a subscription, to Wiest the unfortunate children to.
gether, that they might be an advents. to the country rather than a
stigma. Whm It would be better es seed them to the colonies or
not would be an ulterior quesdon t let us try to effect a part of the ob-
ject. With respect to juvenile vagrants, where It was no fault of their
own, it was a point we were competent to deal with, unless some one
could show that they were vagrants from choice, and not necessity. All
other systems were in vain, with such a nursery of crime in the heart of
the metropolis ; and he thought the legislature would ultimately be in-
duced to take the affair into their hands, and pal= to this dreadfulevil, and surely to some useful object. It was to suppose the
coo . All that remained for the friends of the society was, to
exert themselves to give the public information of their intentions,
and they might hope to makecosrand stand against the mower of
the mischief. (Cheers.) Hpe e uded by moving the following re-
solution :

" Thai it is expedient to establieb a charitable institution, for the
purpose of suppressing juvenile vagrancy, by affording agricultural and
other employment to children ol the poor, between the ages of eight
and sixteen, of whom not lees than 15,000 are now estimated to be totally
destitute in this metropolis."
J. J. Buena, Req. seconded the resolution, and regretted at the
same time that the meeting was not more numerously attended, a cir-
cumstance which could only be attributed to the fact of its not being
sufficiently known.
The resolution was carried unanimously.
Mr. Seejesen Annals said he woo a magistrate of the county of War-
wick, when an institution of the same kind was established, and was
found to imeessi to the sadieles of all.
Several stber gladsome spoke la favour of the Imtitstlen.
Other seeska menestod with the ostablidinient of the socie
ware thawadage* sod ahomesting away, ty
Many gmtlonsan the meting Aar the pqmipd hymns a
the day lie
ham pm linnigit. 1!11111/111 _whom maw Ind Simms and
his brother. The weft was admmised An 12 o'clock, and the Wsupposed the chair wield sot be mhos before 1 o'clock. iffil
stand dist kis in sensampledenw had weather general pleas masse,.
Mg, on an early day, at theme serf at the town.

LAW REPORTS.
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COURT OF CHANCERY, No•. N.

The LORD CHANCELLOR oat this nurenlng to beer Appeals and Pe-
dame, none of which, however, possessed any public interest.

COURT OF KING'S BENCH. Nov. 19.
THI Ilia v. BATLEY.

this Wm; Xd
TM ailments ongoes occu the whole of the day. TIN
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sense teolves the right of the defendant to a Prebend's Stall in Litch-
field CathedraL
The Judges tool dins to consider their judgment.
COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, DUBLIN, N0v.13.
The case of the Earl of Clanriearde • the Lord Bishop of Month,
commenced this day. The matter of trial is the right of presentation
claimed by the noble plaintiff to the living of Bathwier, in the diocese
of Meath. Sir Henry Meredith, I. C. stated the case to the Jury he an
able speech, detailing the history and nature of the living, and his cli-
ent's title. Several ancient records, letters patent, and other grants and
proceedings relative to the title, were produced and given in evidence,
but nothing immediately explanatory of the disputed question appeared.
The court adjourned till eleven o'clock the following day.