Star.
London, England, 1801-03-05 00:00:00

BROWN BREAD.

Mr. BRACCE arpotted flotn the Committee on
the Bill to amend the 36th of his prefent
permitting Bakcrs to.manufanute Mixed Bread.
Mr. VANSITTART remarked on a dance in thx
Bill, " laving the rights of the City of London,"
as calculated to defeat one of the principal ohjedt
of the mcafure, infornuch as no Bakcr could wo: k
in Lenion without the lie,:nee of the Corporatim
of Bakers, who would by that dance have tht
power of preventing the ntanufadure :,Tixed
Bread, it difpofed to do fo.
Mr. RYDER anfwered the obicetions of the lion.
Gentleman, by listing that a.limilar claufe wac
lnferted in the AEI of- the 36th of the King, and
no inconvenience was found to refult from it.

The Report was agreed to, and the Bill ordered
to be read a third time to-morrow.

STAMP-DUTY TAX.

The Houle then refolvcd itfclf into a Committee
on the additional Stamp Duty Bill.
On the Claufe which propofed to impole an ad-
ditional Duty of4d. on all Bills of Exchange, pay-
able otherwife than on demand, from 40
to 301.
Mr. HOB HOWSE role to remark, that the middle
and lower defies of Manufaelurers, particularly
More of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Sheffield,
&c. would be affeeted by this increafed Tar, inaf-
much as they received many fmall orders, amount-
ing to turns between 51. and aol. and received
Bills for them payable otherwife than on demand.
The ManufaCturers could not, in fuch inftanees,
' charge the additional Tax upon their employers,
which mull prove injurious to them, at a time
when they laboured under fuch difcouragements.
fie ward, therefore, tome Claufe to be introdu-
ced in favour of fuck
Manufatturers, having fuch
Bills between the turns of 51. and 201. And with
regard to the defalcation of Revenue which this
exception would occafion, he thought this might
be compenfated by an afcending leak of taxation
for Bills above tool. He would therefore move,
that all Bills between 4o Millings and aol. be ex-
empted from the additional Duty of 4d. and that
this additional Tax be confined to Bills, payable
otherwife than on demand, between the hens of
aol. and 301.
Mr. PITT raid, he thought that when Gentle-
men confldered how (mall the additional Tax pro-
pofed was, they would fee that it could not have
any material effect upon the Manufa&tuvs of the
Country, efpecially eonfidering that, notwith.
(landing the temporary preffure occafioned by the
failure of crops, and the high price of provilions,
there Manufactures had been increafing.
Mr. Hoax ousx acknowledged, that if buta few
of there Notes paired through thelvlanufafturers'
hands, the increafed amount of the Duty would
not be confiderable ; but the fa& was, that they
were to a very confiderable amount.
Mr. PITT remarked, that where a great num-
ber of fuch Notes pared through the ManufaCtu-
rers' hands, it afforded a prefiimptive proof that
the average profit to the Manufafturer bore, at
leaf}, louse proportion to the number of the Notes
which they received.
Mr. Rossom wifhed to know whether this Tax
extended to the Five Guinea Country Bank Notes,
which he thought were a very fair fubjed of Tax-
ation. They shad increafed with the inereafe of
Provifions, and, in his opinion, they were one
caufe of that increa(e. He wifhed a Chute to this
deft to be brought uo.
Mr. PITT Paid, it was contrary to rule to intro-
duce fuch a Claufe in the prefent stage. If the
Hon. Member wifhed to propofe a greater inmate
of Taxation in this inftance, it behoved him to do
it in a Committee of Ways and Means. Nor did
he think that the Hon. Gentleman's pofition could
be eafily proved, that the increafed circulation of
the Country Bank Notes had increafed the price
of Provifions ; it would, perhaps, be more city to
prove that this circulation h3d been the means of
increating the Apiculture and Commerce of the
Country.
Mr. BRA Gan Paid, it would, be impoffible, ac-
cording-to the cuflom of Parliament, to propofe
an additional Duty in'this
After a fhort converfation between Mr. Hob-
!wore, Sir \V. Pulteney, Mr. W. Bird, Mr. Pitt,
Mr. Curwen, and Mr. Role, the Claufes were
brought up and agreed to.
Mr. Hon HOUbk did not think, that the addition-
al Stamp Duty upon Deeds of Conveyance would
be produCtive. He complained of the great in-
create of Stamp Duties, from the reign of King
William, which w.ts (itch, that the very Index to i
them required a Volume. 'There was a confider- I
able danger recalling to the individual, from
min.:king the quality of the Stamp, as it bad been
determined in Courts of Law, that the deed itielfi
was invalidated, where the appropriate Stamp was
not affi;ed.—He fuggened the expediency of pal-
fing an ad eomprifing all the Stamp Duties ir. one
table, in Come inch manner as he underflood was
going on in the Culloms, a fimplification and con-
folidation of the Cullom-houfe Duties. He thought
fomething of this nature would be very ufefui to
prevent conflation as well as danger to individuals,
from the multiplicity of Stamp-Duty regulations.
Mr. Ross obferved, that before t 797, the
Stamp Duty was 7s. it was then increafed to tos.
and it was now propofed to add p. more. He
admitted that it was an important confideration
to confolidate the Stamp-Office duties. The idea
had already been iliggefted by the Committee of
Pinar:v., but it had been Arid extremely difficult
to bc done; however, fomething of the fort was
in contemplation, but affuredly nothing of the fort
could be done precipitately. At the tame time be
wis aware that could fuch a defirable plan be
dheard, it would' be of benefit to the revenue as
well a. to the ind:vidual

Mr. Ho-novs► fuggefted, that there Amid
he fume cscuption of tiAx in favour of stimp,
deeds of A pprenticeflip, on I:half of poor perf?os.
' Mr. Roar rcpl:cd, tau the tame et=
were prepofed the pada rait as

Made in the former Bill of this nature. He far.
tier remarked the impouibility of confolidating
all the Stamp Duties during War, when Tay.
were recerfarhy increafing ; hut when the Waling;
of Peace 11 tonld arrive, he hoped that fometiiit4
cff.;acious might be done upon the fubjett.
Sir W. Put, r FNix.cofitletr.ned the do/trine that
any legal inftrumert was v"id, becaufe the Stant?
:ma, IA was vet that which was deemed iln(tl,
appropi tate. as incritrakiit wit} common feat and
re,innicsn iLlLita. If no irrteucv,n appeared d.'
fraud el.:: rcrciltrz, why fanubi a 31,:al for,r f..r
ink r,-I,•etictis of a Stamp A c.•outitr:•t'i
F. fro. 1 t•,-•.a• words Cum the
illiam Pulttlfry,
were d tn, and the 14.cir.,rt , .
brought tip to-morrow.

LULTIV•VTIr,N 01, rnrcr^,,

.Mr. RI, bri.ugiit ur th.:
eilitti:e rtlAti%c to wanting Premium.,
tivatinn of Pritatne::.

Oh th( queftion for tile fecohl ro;hl:ng ..1
Refolutions, _ _

Mr. )(INF s (poke in oppolition.
they would rather add to the e►ul .niC:ng from
extreme high price of protifl..n. ban ,:tttl'elltve •
to diminith it. Peace, he contektd, to .be the
only remedy, as the quantity of 13:ay.:Ions or- •
fumed in expeditions greatly contributed, ht:
thought, to enhance their price.
Mr. ►tu.utt t laid, that he could tint approve of
thofe Refolutions, though tanltitmed b> the Selet
Committee and the Board of Agricultur:. What.
had the labours, he mutt :tilt, of the Stied Coin
mittee effeCted ? When they entered on their tatlc.
Wheat wa,, at ts%. the bufliel; it w.O now a: z r,.
Btef was at 6d. it was now z,. p.. 1 lb. and mere Ma-
-110 knowing wheat there ptiz:s would i'op. Ever.:
interference of Coto:militia in matter- of agrieni
tture, from the Duke of Portlx:d't ettel to the
prefent day, had been produtiv; of lifchief.
had been marked by thc.grolfeft
could the A rchbilhop of Citnterliur y, ti'e 11: a ?I, ,fl.
for of the Eichequcr, or his Majetty's Attorney
or Solicitor Generals be fuppofed to know of
culture? they could not be foppolt d to na I ,•.,
their minds from the great matter, of Sear, Po
fubjefts of little but practical concern. He wilt
not bound to fpeak with more rerpeet of the Board
of Agriculture, the late Prelident of which had
moved that Sheep !honld be furnilhed with seed:
oath and another Member of which had propoii:d
that moveable koala fhould be erefted for their ac-
commodation. The Scict Committee had pafTcd
the Brown Bread Bill, and were obliged, with the
firil opportunity, to repeal it, leit the people of
this country fhould be poifoned. Now the pat:
taro lands were, forfobtli, to be turned into pu-
tatoe grounds, but it' was not laid what in the
mean time was to become of the cattle ? It would
be idle to give land to the cottagers who bad not
money to pay for feed, and whore neceifities com-
pelled them to make the utmoit of their time. He
Ihould have Ids oblation if it was propofed to
plant the fallow. with potatoes, as that would
be a good preparation for the culture of wheat.
But as the motion now flood, he mull oppofe it
altogether.
Mr. Burrow defended the Committee on the
High Price of Provifions, and the Board of Agri-
culture, from the attack made upon them by the
hail Hon. Gentleman, but he thought the mtafure
,then before the Houfe not in the kali calculated
to p;mote public utility, and would, if carrietlinto
e:edition, overthrow all the agreements between
'1 landlord and tenant.

Sir W. Yonne; thought it highly improper ts
favour, by means of premiums, one fpecies of Agri.
culture in preference to another, as it would only
tend, he conceived, to i ure Agriculture in generaL
Mr. WILDERTORCR (aid, he thought the Ho-
nourable Gentleman who had preceded him, had
argued too much upon abltraftei.nciplest without
payingfufficient attention to the cafes of general
convenience. He thought the propofed premiums
proper and judicious, as a large Rock of potatoes
was wanted, which there was not at the prcfent
moment fufficicnt encouragement to cultivat:.
To obviate the oblation arifing from the agree-
menu between landlord and tenant, he intended,
he Paid, to propok an amendment, that no tenant
Ihould cultivate potatoes on land not agreed to be
ufed fur that •purpofe, 'without the content of his
landlord. He hcped, however, if the nrior Re-
folutions of the Committee were related. that the
Houle would not alfo rejelt that Refolution re-
lative to panting premiums to cottager:, as to
that he thought no taNd objeaion had yet or
could be made.—Sir Witttasi YouNo explained-
Mr. Jonsson was againa all interference of the
Legiflature ; trade, he (aid, would be belt mana-
ged by itfelf, and the endeavours of Committees
• had completely failed.
Mr. WHITBREAD oculared himself. decidedly
Londe to the rcfolutions ; he thought Legid
interference relative to Agiicultare ought to have
proceeded no farther than the graniing of b9HIE* •
ties on the importation of wheat. He did. hoz- .
with, he kid, to arraign the Cummitue on. the
High Price of Provitions, but he thought the fit&
den changes they had.latcly exhibited in thei:
opinions, particularly with refpea to the Brown
Bread Bill, would tend to bring that Committee
into difrepute. He thought that notwithdand-
-1 ing the amendment hinted at by the Honourable
j Gentleman, the premiums would even then caul:
much difinthon and many difputes between land-
lords and tenants, arifing from the clerking of
oppofite intently which muff at kart be very on-
pleafant. That part of the refolutiuns which re-
lated to cottagers, he conceived to be nugatory,
fence that clak of men already, for the Kike of
their own profit, cultivated to the utmoft 'their
little (pots of ground.
Ms. Reason contended, that the price of pota-
toes bad rifen contlently, from the Sra time of
mentioning the bounty in that Houk. He was
proceeding to remark on the refolutioas, when
• Mr. Antra °Waived, that Gentlemen were dl
coifing a &Wee, with great difference of opinions.
when there were not Members in the Henfe to di•
vide on if. He moved that the Hoek be counted.
which being dose, thus was NIT 34 pretest.--
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