Star.
London, England, 1805-05-29 00:00:00

WAIT INDIA BILLS.

The Earl of SUFFOLK called to their Lordfhips'
recolleftion, the motion, which, about two months
fine, he brought forward, for the produdion of an
account of the bills drawn from the Weft India
Iflands, upon the Treafury, to which their Lordihips
then agreed, and the Noble Secretary, now in his
place, raid be had no objedion to thofe accounts—
however, they had not yet been produced, and he
greatly wilhed they were brought forward before the
end of the tiellion. To obviate the oblations on the
(core of inconvenience, which were made on a for-
mer evening, he would nor move an addrefs to his
Majeßy, that there be laid before the Houfe "an
account of all funs drawn from the Welt India
Iflands upon the Treafury, amounting to t,oool. and
upwards, from the la day of December, 1798, to
the IR of December, 18ot, fpecifying the dates, times
of payment, Btc."
Lord HAWKESBURY obferved, that the prelim
was, in point of fad, a part of the motion formerly
made by the Noble Earl, to which, as far as refpec-
ted the objeft of it, he had no objedion. However,
the impoffibility of being able to make out accounts
of In voluminous a nature as thofe called for, within
the time elapfed, mould be conlidered. If the Noble
Earl would exprefily Rate what particular point he
wilhed to be informed upon, what particular circum-
Rance he wilbed to be explained, he would endea-
vour to procure it, and filch thould be produced, in
the fhorteß poffible time. The fame objections, on
the fcore of inconvenience or impracticability, applied
to the fecond motion, nearly as much as to the firll.
The number of rums which it would embrace, the
confiderable time which it mull unavoidably take up,
the number of clerks feleded, as the moil converfapt
in foch bufineffes, who mull be employed, and taken
away from important avocations, were points worthy
of ferious contideration—fo much In, that wilds
frame fpeci6c point were more exprefily adverted to,
he thould feel it his duty rather to refill the prefent
motion. It would be better, upon the whole, con-
fidering the Winds was in fuch a train of proceeding,
that the original motion fhould be followed up:
The Earl of SUFFOLK thought whatever pro-
grefs might have been made in completing the Ac-
counts formerly ordered, bis limiting them both in
amount and extent of period could hardly be fuppo-
fed to throw any impediment in the way of their com-
pletion. As, however, the Noble Baron defired to
know Tome of the points on which he wilhed informa-
tion, he fliould fo far indulge him. One of the cafes
called to his obfertarion, was a Bill- of 8,0001. which
having come into the hands of a merchant, and being
prefented at the Treafury for payinenr, the holder
was informed that thefe were bills of accommodation,
and that it was cuftomary to renew them for 6o days
longer, being the period at which they were origi-
nally drawn payable. Learning that the ufual inter-
ea of 5 per Cent. would be allowed, and having no
immediate occafion for the money, the holder of the
bill agreed to its renewal on the terms mentioned.--
At the fame time, however, aisother Geistleman
bolding a bill for 15,c001. came in, and prefented it
for payment. A fimilar Rory was told him, but he
refuted to agree to any renewal, as many bills of his
own depended on the payment of this one. He ac-
cordingly received payment of his Bill, butisot-till he
had threatened to proteß it, and to return it to the
Welt Indies, where it Irma have borne an intereft of
t 5 per Cent. betides all colts. Thefe were difagree-
able fituations, to which he thought it improper that
the mercantile intereas and people in general of this
country ought to be reduced. He was ready to call
perfons to the Bar of the Houfe to prove what he
had flared, and he pledged him(elf for its truth.
Lord HAWKESBURY dill refitting the reßrie-
tip of the motion, after a few words from Earl Suf-
folk and Lord Holland, who infilted that the Cole
object of the amendment propofed was to forward
the invefligation, Earl Suffolk withdrew his motion
as refit ided.

The Earl of SUFFOLK then, alluding to a mo-
tion of a former night, moved that an humble addrefs
be prefented to has Majetty for the amount of old
Naval Stores fold in this country from December,
(802, to December, 1803.—Ordered.

A con-re/ration then tatted between the Earl of Suffolk, Lard
SitIMOUtII7 the Bithop of St. Afaph, Earl of Weihnoreland, and
Duke of Norfolk, relative to the Pancras Poor Bill, when it was
agreed tilt tLe proper time to object to the Committee would be
on Thurfday,..for which day the order flood—
The Bilhop of sr. ASAPH declaring, that if it was not the in-
tention of the Noble Fall (Suffolk) then to move a poaponement
of the farther progrefs of the BM, he mould thick it his duty to
do fo. . .
jtfqti ;oz.

The LORD CHANCELLOR thee came for-
ward, purfuant to notice, to fubmit a motion to th.ir
Lordraips, ref-paling the place and manner in which
Mr. J uttice Fox (hould be allowed to, attend the clic-
cuffiun on matters that concerned him, or even enter
upon his defence and jullification, thould that learn-
ed Gentleman deem it fit and expedient fo to do. He
had taken much pains to enquire into precedents to
regul4te what he thould propole on the prefent occa
lion ; but he cuttid not meet with one that appeared
to him to be exthly in point. Much difficulty arofe
in his mind from the manner in which the bpit itual
Peers from Ireland were fummoned to attend Parlia-
ment. _ There was alfo a cafe of the attendance of

Scots Judges, who were called upon by the Hoofe in
the year 1763 to deliver their opinion upon certain
points to the Houle. The Scots Judges at that time
did not (land in the fame predicament as the learned
Gentleman now concerned, and therefore their cafe
could not apply to the prefent. He felt much for
the lunation of the learned Gentleman ; and he was
convinced that every poffible mark of refpeet and re-
gard Should be paid to him by the Houle, )3ut froth
the precedents which he had cnnfulted, be was di.
reeled to think that the learned Gentleman could not
well fit on fuck an occafion in the body of that Houle,
but that a chair lbould be prepared for him below the
bar, and that every proper inftruftion tbould be
given by the learned Lord who fat on tl''.e Woolfack,

sr the Noble Lord who prettied at the tatle in
Committees of the Houfe, that the learned Gentle.
man thould experience every poffible mark and indi-
cation of refpc& which the Houfe could afford his
appearance below the bar. It was in his opinion to
be left at the option of that learned Perfon. whether
or not he thoul.l attend in his judicial robes. ;His
Lordfhip, after further elucidations of the cafe, con-
cluded with a motion for the appearance of the learned
Gentleman in A chair below the bar.
Lord AUCKLAND differed fomewhat in opinion
from the learned Lord, and conceived it to be in the
fpirit of the A& of Union, that the learn:4 Judges
of Ireland fhould be treated as the Judges of this
country, who attended as Peers in that Hattie,
Lord CARLE TON Teemed inclined to adopt the
fame opinion, and was proceeding to enforce and il-
tante the redone on which he thought it might be
fupported, when his Lordlhip was fuddenly lcircd
with a dizzinefs or a fainting fit, which obliged him
to fit down.
Much anxiety and attention were immediately ex•
erted by the Noble Loras near him to afford every
affiflance and relief : his Lordthip was prevailed
upon to take a glafs of brandy and water, which
Coon confiderably relieved him t and after a few mi-
nutes be was enabled to withdraw, get into his carri-
age. aid was conveyed home.
The Houk, after a thou pack, put off the further
confederation of the quettion till Thurfday, and then
adjourned till that day.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
After Come private bullock, a Bill was preicated to amend the
&ft for encouraging the Woollen Manufadtutc.—Read a hilt
time, and ordered for the fecood reading to-morrow.

Lord GLENBERVIE moved, that a meftage be fent to the
Lords, requefting their Lortillaips' pertniffion fur the Earl of Buck-
ingliamthire, Earl St. %%cent, and Lord Sidmouth to attend for
eaunination before the Seiedt pownittec on the Eleventh Re•
port of the Conanifiloners of Naval Inquiry.—Ordered.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL preftmted his Bill to amend
the Felon's Efcape Bill between England and Ireland.—Read a
firft time, and ordered fur the fesoad reading en Thurfday.
Mr. JAPERY, of Poole, gave notice that he Mould, on Mon-
day, move for additional papers to chafe on the table refpeeting
the Board of Admiralty.
A meirenger from the CommifEoners of Cuftoms prefented an
account of Corn imported into the port at Lonalon...ao lie on
the table.
Mr. PETER MOORE gave notice, that he would on Thug.
thy neat move for the ettalideration of the Petition from the Ca-
lico Printers, which he prefented in March Taft.
The Dublin Pairing Bill was committed, and ordered to be re-
ported on Thurfday. •
Mr. ALEXANDEI, reported from the Committee upon Ex-
piring Lawst.=-Refolutions agreed tu, and leave given to bring in

i 871 purfuant thereto.
The whole Houle in a Committee to confider the propriety of
oho/Ming the Export Dudes en Woollens fent to the Loft Indio;
and on the raction of Mr. ROSS, lave was given to bring in a
Bill. ' •

Ordered that the Houfc do an Thurfday take Into confiders•
don the Whale Ftfitery
Mr. VANSITTART moved for leave to bring In a Bill for the
better Adminiftration of the olike of juitlie of Peace in Ireland ;
and for the more effedual Prevention of &lonics In the bidri4 of
the Metropolis of Dublin.—Leave given.
Sir GEORGE HILL propofed a motion for taking into cond.
deration the injuries dace to the Refidentiary Houle of the Bilbop
of Derry to Ireland. in the occupation thereof by the King's
troops.and the loges thereby (attained by the Right Rev. Prelate ;
which motion be afterward, withdrew, upon an intimation front
Mr. VANSITTART, that a negotiation was on foot between
the Inik Government and the Slump, and that early in the next
feffion he mould be able to lay before Parliament foinethimt fad&
faaory on that tubjed.
Mr. FOSTER moved the Order of the Day for going into a
Committee on the frills Efate and Clams Houk Officers Bill;
awl the Houfe refffived itfelf accordingly.
The Bill was ftrenuoully oppofed by Mr. JAMES Firz-
GERALD, who contended, that the 818 *eat to impofe upon
the country a heavy and arnica:Cary =pence. by adding four Com.
tr. the number already appointed, which natality are
amply competent to do the bedeck This addition that orapiol.
at a time when public cent omy is fo indifpentable to prevent new
hurdle= upon the psile, and at a time too when the Right Host.
Gentleman was obl4ed to retort to the revival of an old tax under
a r-iter name upon the poor of Ireland, namely the Fire Hearth Tax,
from which they were relieved by the Parliament of this country
tome rears ago. the Right Honourable Gentleman elides this dine
to lay on a tax of a molt berthentome nature. lie appealed to
the correfpondence of the Right Hon. Centigram Who filled the
chair of the Houk, with the Gevernment, to prove that no ne •
eeffity whatever exifted to inereate the prtfent number of Commit-
fioners,and he moved that the Chairman de leave the Chair.
Mr. FOSTER argued. that the Bill propofed to add only two
Commit:Loner+ to the aumbet fettled by law in the reign of Quotes
II.; that the commerce of the country had quadrupled finer that
time, and eonfequently, an addition anew Commiffioners was but
a reafonable and no:teary inereafe, which, inftead of being any vio-
lation of economy, or any lob to the areetry, would probably ope-
rate as an literate of revalue, to the amount of ao nr sago& a
year. With refpea to the argument of the Right Hon. centlentan,
of reviving the hearth money. it was .not a true reprefrotabia,
but tabulated to excite the tower orders. of the people Id Ireland
to new infurreffiion.
Mr. LA'FOUCHE fupported the oplutoo of Mr. Fitzgerald.
and Mr. ORMSBY that 61.14 r. Fetter, blalhe motion was nega-
tived, and the Bill ordered to be reported Oa Thurfday.
Mr. ALI XANDER reported tram the eammittee of Supply
yefterday's Rs:fabulous for providing for the Militia of England
and Ireland..—Leave given to being :a Bills.
LORD 141C1.IILLS•
Mr. H. S. DU.NDAS, in confequence of the
no-
tice given by in Hon. Gentleman yellerditY (Mr.
Whithreas4), of a moCon'relpeeting Lord Melville,
on Thurfday fennight, role now to Nate the .vitex.
of that Noble Lord, for the permiffior of that Houle
to be heard perfonally in his defence.. therefore
gave notice that lie fhould, on the day.s?pointed
by the Hon. Member for his motion, move fo: per-
miffion that Lord Melville fbould be heard p4trott•
ally in his defence.