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mitted the reelarity of a direlt communication
from his Majcfty on the fubjea, but as that
would create delay in going through the neceffary
forms, he confidered he had done his duty in pro-
curing to be laid before their Lordfhips' Commit-
tee the Report of the Secret Committee of the
Houle of Commons, to affift their Lordfhips' Com-
mittee in forming its judgment, as it was impof-
fible that the Committee could get through the
mars of evidence laid before it without fuch
ailif-
lance in the fpace of time the urgency of the mea-
fure demanded. He vindicated his Majelly's Mi-
nifters from any intention of getting into their
hands, by the palling of the Bill, any power which
was not abfolutely neceffary to the prefervation
of the Cor.ftitution, and from the charge of a with
to withhold any information which could be given
continent with the delicacy of a fubjeet that de-
manded the utmoft precaution and fecrecy. He
confidered the report of their Lordfhips'Committee
would juflify him in Rating that it was indifpenfi-
bly neceffary the Bill thould pats through all its
Rages before their Lordfhips adjourned.
Lord HOLLAND faid, he was convinced that
nothing he could fay would prevent their Lord-
fhips adopting the meafure before the Houle ; yet
he felt it his duty to enter his proteft againft the
Bill. He did not think the evidence in their Lord-
(hips' poffeflion could authorize them to deprive
the People of England of their greaten. fafcguard
and protection ; and he could fee no caufe for the
very great haße with which the Noble Lord
(Hobart) propofed to pats the Bill through the
Houle, without even affording a mcafure of fuch
importance to the liberty of the fubjea the fame
regularity of procefs which was give:, to a com-
mon Turnpike Bill. He next adverted to Gover-
nor Anis, whole condu& had been allowed to be
oppralive, and hoped fome Rep would be taken
to remove him ; as it could not be necelfary, if
perfons mull be confined, that they fho•;lci Puffer
the cruelty that perfon wasfo capable of infli&ing.
The Earl of WISTIVOILELAND faid, there could
be no quctlion as to the importance of the Habeas
Corpus Ad to the Liberties of the Subjea ; but
what alone called for their Lordfhips conlideration
was, whether the propofed Sufpenlion of it was
called for in the prefent critical fituation of af-
fairs? His Lordfhip then proceeded to vindicate
the condua of the Committee which had been ap-
pointed, and the nature of the Report which they
had made. With regard to the ufe which his Ma-
jetty's Minifters had made of the former Sufpen-
(ion of this A!t, he would challenge the Noble
Lord to prove that any good and loyal fubjea bad
been molefted or, put into prifon in confequence
filch Sufpenfion. The power with which Mini-
Ilers were entrufted, had in 'no cafe been abufed,
but had been exercifed with a fcrupulous regard
to the public fafety. The Noble Lord had de-
clared his want of confidence in the new Admini-
ftration ; but, in his opinion, it was a good recom-
mendation of the new Government, that they
(leered by the counfels of thofe who, amidft an
unufual variety of public dangers and difficulties,
had guided the Bark of the State lakly through
fo many dangers and forms. The Noble Lord
(Holland) had adverted to the diftreffes of the
Poor ; but he was proud to fay, that there never
was a period when more regard had been paid
to the diftreffes of the Poor. The Bill now under
confiieration was one of proteaion to the loyal,
and a Bill of prevention and of forbearance to-
wards the wicked and evil-minded.

Earl Motes, in reply, laid he was not fatisfied
with the vague affertions contained in the Report
of the Committee, however much he refpeded the
Noble Lords compofing that Committee, indivi-
dually confidered ; but they were perfons who bad
moßly been in his Majefty's Adminifiration, and
compofed of fuch who it would be expelled, would
neceirarily frame a Report to vindicate the fyilem
which they had adopted. The confequence of the
meafures which had been adopted by the Noble
Earl (Weßmoreland) when Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland, (hewed the inefficacy of that fyflem of
meafures which had been purfued there. His
Lorsliliip condemned the method which Miniflers
had adopted on the prefent occafion ; they had
merely laid Papers on the Table, without bringing
any dired communication from the Throne, thus
avoiding all refponfibility with regard to the mea-
lure brought forward, and (hiking it from them-
(elves to the Committee. But, when a meafure
which was an evident infradion of the Conflitu-
tion, was brought before Parliament, the Minifler
who did fo, ought to make himfelf perfonally re-
fponfible, which in this inflance, and by the Reps
taken, he had evaded. He could not compliment
his Majeßy's Minifiers, fo far as to take their loofe
fiatements, inftead of Evidence, as a fufficient
ground for fnfpending the Habeas Corpus Ad.—
On a matter of fuch importance to the Liberty of
the Subject, he required not afro-6°n merely, hut
pofitive proof. If unlawful oaths had been admi-
nißered in any inflances, as Rated in the Report,
why not convict the perfons chargeable with fuch
proceedings? As the Law Rood, he believed the
fentence for fuch conduit was Tranfportation ;
and even if any individuals could be fo convicted,
he timid Rill doubt whether that would form fut.
ticient ground to pars a law which went to ail-
franchite fo many of his fellow-fubjeets.
The Earl of WasTatoutaaann, in explanation,
denied that Mindiers, by adopting the mode of
laying the Papers on the Table, intlead of coming
down with a dired communication from his Ma-
jc ft v, did fo with any defire of avoiding refponfibility.
LordGtaavmLta faid,thebeß proof he couldgive
of the utility of the meafure under their Lord hips
cant ideratiln was, that the very confpirators them-
felves, for confpirators there were in the country,
regarded it as a meafure which had, and would
crufh their diabolical endeavours ; he Paid it with
pride, that there incendiaries admitted that the
Sedition El!, and the Bill to fufpend the Habeas
Cot pus Ad, had fruftrated all their fchemes. And
fince he had the honour to fit in that Houle, or in
the courfe of his life, he never gave a vote with
more fatisfadion, or one that agreed more with
Ilk itlcaspf the confcientious difcharge of his duty,
than that which be Should give on this nceafion.
The queflina was then pot for the facond read.
lirz of the liall,t/thicla waccarticd without a divifion.

Their Lordfhips then negatived the Commit•
meat of the Bill.

On the queftion for the third reading of the Bill,
Lord HOLLAND rofe and moved, that the Stand-
ing Orders of the Houle, Numbers 24, 26, and
104, be read, which was done accordingly; thefe
in fubftance, generally ordained the non-paffing of
Bills through different Stages on the fame day—
and that thefe Orders fhould not be difpenfed with,
unlefs a day's previous notice of an intention to
move for fuch a proceeding be previoufly given.
Lord HOLLAND obferved, he did not rife to
move to have thofe orders enforced, but wifhed to
call to their Lordfhips recolleetion that fuch Orders
were in =Renee, and to refer particularly to the
Order laft read, which exalted a day's previous
notice before the effeft of fuch Order could be re-
gularly difpenfed with, with a view to Phew what
little refpea certain Noble Peers (hewed to thefe
orders, and thofe, perhaps, who would be the firft
to take advantage of any breach of them in other
Noble Lords.

Lord HOBART begged to appeal to the recol-
leCtion, as well as the candour of the Houle, if, in
what he had laid yellerday, he did not give, as far
as the cafe poffibly admitted, notice of the proceed-
ings which were urged this evening. Though he
did not exaCtly know the contents of all the Papers
which were laid before the Committee, yet from
his official intercourfe, he had a previous know-
ledge of the contents of many of them ; that to a
certain degree warranted him in his obfervations
upon the point yelterday ; but as to the degree of '
expedition in framing a Report which had been
ufed, he could not Ipeak with equal certainty.
Neither did he know he fhould have been appointed
one of the Committee.

Lord HOLLAND fpoke Shortly in explanation,
after which the Bill was read a third time and
palled.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of
the Irifh Mailer of the Rolls' Bill was then moved,
in confequence of which the Bill was forthwith
read a third time, without any objeetion being
offered to the meafure.
The Bill was then paired, and a menge was
ordered to be fent to the Commons, acquainting
them that their Lordfhips had agreed to the Paid
Bill without any Amendment.
The Houfe adjourned at eleven o'clock, till to-
morrow, when a Commiflion takes place for de-
claring the Royal Mint to certain Bills.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The Houfe met this morning purfuant to the
Notice given yefterclay, at eleven o'clock.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECLUEL Dated,
that his Majesty had been waited upon with the
Addrefs of that Houfe, praying that his Majefly
would permit the Papers prefented to the Houfe
on the zit and sd of April, to be laid before the
Houfe of Peers ; to which his Majesty had been
pleated to reply, that he would give directions ac-
cordingly.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEMER then Rated
that his Majelly had been waited upon with the
Addrefs of that Houfe, praying that he would
give directions for Monuments to he erected for
Captains Mofs and Riou, who fell glorioufly in the
action of the sd of April. To which his Majefty
had been pleated to reply, that he would give di-
, reCtions accordingly.
The Cswict t. cos. of the Esc *opal then moved
" That a Melrage fhould be tent to the Lords, to
acquaint their Lordfhips that the Commons would
fend to their Lordfhips the Papers laid before the
Houfe on the ift and sd of April, defiling that
fuch Papers might from time to time be returned,
as might be necetrary for the convenience of the
Houre."—Ordered.

The Houfe then adjourned till half paft three
o'clock.

The Houfe met again at half pail three o'clock.
Mr. J brought up a BW for the better Relief and
Employment of the Pour of the City of Coventry, which was
rpod a &ft time, and ordered to be read a fecond time on the
At of May.
Mr. W: rote to ere notice that on Monday
near, when the Report oldie Corn Conunittce wu to be taken
into confideratioo, he thould bring forward a Propolition rela-
tive to that nicafure.

Mr. BRAGG:. reported, that la pusfuance of the direetions
of the Houk, be, with other Members, bad been to the Haute
of lards, and delivered certain Papers to tbeir Lordfhipa
A Meffage was received from the Lords, Rating that their
Lordihips bad referred the Report of the Secret Committee of
the Commons, together with the leveed Paper communicated
to that Houk, to a Committee of Secrecy appointed by their
Lordthips, and that being at all times delimits to maintain a
good communication between the two Hoofes, they would re.
turn loch Papers as the Conunons might be &Brous of, from
time to time.

Mr. liaaon t moved," That it be an initradtkin to tic Com-
mittee otSeerecy, that they have power to communicate, from
time to time, with the Committee of Secrecy appointed by tint
Lonla."—Agrecd to.

Mr. Coair propoted,that on Monday nett the Hoag lboold
pinto a Committee, when he ihould move, that the Lord-
Lieutenant of Ireland be authorifed to prohibit the Exportation
of Corn and Potatoes, and to permit the Importation of Corn
and HA into Ireland ; and, in the mean time, he moved, that
o:cre be laid before the Houfe fandry Papers relatim•to the
Proclamations ailed by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland on the
fuhjctt, which were ordered to be laid before the Houk.
The Report of the Committee on the Seditious Meeting Bill
was brought up.
The continuance of the Bill was fixed to fix weeks aher the
commencement of the next SefGun of Parliament. 'llse Bid
was oini. red to be read a third time on Monday next.
The Ira Permanent Service Bill was committed, and, with
Amendment', reported to the Houle.
The frith Tea Duty Bill was committed, mid, the Hook being
returned, the Report was brought up and ordered to be received
lie, Monday next.
Ilse Rice Importation Irina Bill was read a firft time, and
Idair h few words between Melirs. Cu awe m and COROT, SS to
UK On* of the Provilions of the Bill, k was ordered to boned
a fretted time en Monday next.
Mr. BR AG(' broupht up the Report tithe Lottery and Crd.
tom Duty bill., Which were ordered to be read a third duos on
Monday next.
The Barley M.dt Bill was committed, and the Report or-
dorsi to be received .n Monday,
Mr. N. VANIOTTAR T 1110•04, dot • CommltOot be appointed
to roPorr as Enboate of the Pay and amehing of the Maki&
for the year 1801.—Alto:thtt 0 Ceemaitter be appainted to pr.*
pare an Ettintate of the alkirCatiee to be made to &leant Ma.
jon, and herjr.mts of Militia difeanbodied, ander the Ada
n. 1,11.4.0 Gaa

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