Star.
London, England, 1807-08-08 00:00:00

friend had never Rated any thing of this fort, in any
•verbal conference, beyond what was contained in the
regular official difpatches, and which were in the
poffellion of the Right Hern. Gentleman oppofite.—
' From many circumftances, all arifing from the late
diffolution, the Hanle had been kept fitting fo late
in the feafon, heaping up laws and fufpeneiing the
Contlitution ; exercifing the molt extraordinary and
delicate powers ; and giving votes of fume; exceeding
all precedent, when the- importance of public confe-
derations feemed lefs to require fnch grants.
Lord CASTLEREAGH laid, that with regard
to the arrival. of the contingency alluded to, he had
not (teed what his own fentiments were, but he
would fay, that Sweden felt that the occation had
arrived in her judgment, and that the confidered
herfelk to have tuffered by the delay. Such alfo
were the fentiments of the other two Powers. The
prefent Minifiers thought it a point n-.t to be ne-
gleeted, and they did Lot limit their notions of what
was wanted to cavalry alone. But he had Rated,
that Government had difqoalified itfelf, and would
not have been potlible to procure the means of tranf-
porting the cavalry which required much prepara-
tion. Sweden thought the cafe fo (Ironge that her
efforts were crippled for want of the atliftanee the
expelled. Had the time arrived, Government could
not have given the affillance ; but the prefent Ad-
miniflration fet about it immediately.
Mr. WINDHAM commented on the difference of
the fiatement now made, from mat which the Noble
Lord had made previanCly. He called to the recol•
leCtion of the Houfe, whether he had not previonfiv
laid that he was affailed on all hands, and from all
fides, concerning promifes of military aid that had
never been performed. It now appeared that it was
only to one Power that any loch promife was given,
and that Inch promife was limited by a particular
contingency; and the other Powers were new brought
in, not as c implaining for want of performance as to
them, but only for our not fulfilling promifes to
Sweden. This acsount might make a good literal
flatement ; but how would it make gr osi the fpirit.
of the accufietion ? He could at.fwer, that as far as he
knew any thing of his own knowledge, as a Member
f the Cabinet,land generally of his Najefly's Coun-
cils, no promife except this had been made, and no
promife made had ever failed in its perfdrmance.—
The contingency they, on his fide, would fay, did
never occur. Ent, laid the Noble Lord, the other
party fays it did, and that the promife was not made
goof. He thought it might have been as well, inflead
of Hating thus the conitruCtion of one.party againfl
the other, if the Noble Lord and his friends had
given their confiru,c.t7on of the matter. They were
more in poffeilion of the documents than he was.—
They had all that paffrd between Sweden and us in
their hands, and fo tar as written communication
goes, would they venture t' fay that we had broken
our faith ? Haw did they 6:ew faith broken ? Did,
they mean to fay, that the promifes relied on verbal
communications ? Thus the nastier (lands between
his N. Friend and the Foreign AmbafTador. He
(Mr. W.) in that cafe fhould throw the prefumption
in favour cf his Air ble Friend. It was quite unlikely
that it thould exilt in verbal communications. We
were to furnith a certain quantity of cavalry, in cafe
of certain events occurring. He did not think that
thofe.events had recurred. What further could he
thew ? As to ye-IL:ls—the tall Minifters had left a
larger number of (hips than they received. In De-
cember there were about fifty tranfports, and ac-
cummodation for fix or fiven thoufand men. Though
a larger armament could not be put to tea imme-
diately, yet fhips were always to be had—and it was
ablurd to fay there was not a fufficient number for
any emetgencey which we know nothing of. Let
the Noble Lord produce a Qatement, which he could
eafily get from the Tranfpott Office, of the tranfports
in hand on the coming in and going out of the late
Minitters ; always underttanding this, that the trant-
port tonnage for that fervice which they found ready
was ditcharged, as it could always be got when
wanted ; and that a greater quantity was left of fuel]
as entail not be had at once, when they were wanted.
Let him bring his charges in a more detailed and ex
elicit form than that in which he had chofen to make
them.

Mr. Secretary CANNING Rated that he had been
defocus of avoiding thefe difcuilions during the ab-
fence of the Noble Lord whom they more particu-
larly concerned. What he had been led to Rate was,
that when they came into power they found their
Allies in flrong expeaation of pecuniary and mili-
tary Alliance ; but he admitted that thefe expeaa
firms were much firinger than any thing the dif-
patches contained. Muoh depended upon whether
we treated chiefly upon (bele points here or by our re-
fident at the foreign court. But we had in this cafe,
the echo of our Minitter at the foreign Court. A
challenge was thrown out refpeaing the contingency
for requiring the cavalry; but his Noble Friend had
Dated, that had it occurred, no provifion could have
been made. The Noble Lord teemed to think this
matter a fort of triumph. He gave him joy for fuch
a triumph with all his heart. The Ni bit Lord had
done nothing more than limply Rating the fall, with
his Noble Friend's authority for it. He (Mr. C.)
bad contended that the vaguenefs and generality of
promifes created an exaggeration of hopes. But he
would fay, that two other great Powers betides Swe-
den did entertain thefe hopes, and that they were
entertained by our Minifter at one of thofe Courts.
That Great Britain could have a very large difeof
able army to fend, he did not contend, nor for afting
on the line of the Ruffian and Pruflian forces : but the
had a force for diverfion' at which the Right
Hon. Gentleman oppofite looked with fuch contempt,
to relieve the Grand Armies from the prelfure of
the whole French force. The prefent Miniflers
thought our troops might join thole of the King of
Sweden in Pomerania. It was expelled on all hands
that we thould fend them and relieve, pro raw°, the
force that oppofed the French in front. As to the
tranfports, if the Right lon. Gentleman did not
move, he fhould feel no difficulty in moving for the
accounts relative to them. When the Right Hon.
Gentleman laid he left more than he found, did he
mean generally the tranfports, fuch as thole in the
South American and the Sicilian and Egyptian ex.
peditions ? This.he believed to be the fait : they were
fent there, and none left it home. Thus he might
make out more, taking them generally. He had
heard of ancient conquerors, who after making good
their landing burned all their flips, but he never
heard before that, in -ordcr to fend an army aide