Star.
London, England, 1830-04-01 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONSWEDNESDAY.

A new writ was moved for a burgess to serve in Parliament for
the borough of Dorchester, in the room of the Honourable Mr.
Cooper.
it,. C. BURN ELL presented a petition from Brighton respecting
the duties on beer.

The house then resolved itself into a committee on the
ELLENROIOUGH DIVOSCC BILL.

Mr. Adam appeared at the bat on behalf of Lord Ellenborough,
ar.d in support of the bill. •
The Learned Counsel, in a speech which was only upon occasions
audible in the gallery, detailed the facts which have been already
laid before the public in the Lords' Report. He stated that he
would bring evidence to prove the solemnisation of the marriage, and
the facts of his lordship and his wife having lived•upon terms of
affection, up to the period when his lordship's suspicions of her
fidelity were first awakened. He would also show a continued
course of adultery between her ladyship and Prince Schwartzenberg,
from March, 1828, to May, 1829. He said he would establish, by
the best evidence, that he ladyship was in the habit of calling at
the Prince's lodgings in Harley.street—that she was seen in his
drawing-room by a person in an opposite house, almost in a
state of undress, while the Prince was assisting her to make
her toilette; that it would be /noted the bed at Harley.etreet,
which had been made in the morning, Aid, after her lady-
ship's departure, bear evident marks of two persons having lain
in it or upon it. He farther declared be would prove, that after
the Prince had removed to Holles.atrest, lady Ellenborough still
continued her visits to him ; and that be would also establish the
fact of her ladyship's having, in February, 1829, left London,
under the pretext of visiting her only child, who lay sick at
' Brighton • and that there she met Prince S. and, on his send-
ing up his card to her invited him to tea ; that he left her sit-
ting-room about ten o'clock, and was afterwards, at the hour of
twelve, seen by a waiter entering her ladyship's berl-room ; that
the waiter listened at the door, and beard his Highness getting
into the bed, and subsequently heard a noise which the learned
counsel did not choose to describe. He then read her ladyship's
letter (which has already appeared in this paper,) and argued that
there was nothing like negligence to be imputed to his lordship; he
could not have been led to suspect that his lady's visit to Harley-
street, in which her mother resided, could be urged by any improper
motive, as site was only absent from home between the hours of
three and six, at which time all ladles of her rank, as well known to
the hon. members of the committee, were in the habit of paying
their visits, and taking their daily exercise. Neither could he ima.
gine her visit to Brighton, where her only child lay sick, was dic-
tated by any but the purest motive. He contended, from the tenor
of her ladyship's letter, that she had made no disclosure of actual
guilt to her injured husband, although she might have confessed to
some indiscretion or partiality for the Prince. He alluded to the
confession made to Miss Steele, her early and confidential friend,
and proceeded to call the following witnesses :
Charles Freshfield and Paux, to prove the solemnisation of
the marriage. They did so in the sone words used before the Lords'
Committee.

The Hon. H. S. Law also proved the solemnization of the mar-
riage, and deposed to the fact of his brother and Lady Ellenborough
living on terms of affection.
In reply to a question by Dr. PHILLIMORE, Mr. Law stated,
that Lord and Lady EUenborough had lived together affectionately
as man and wife usually do.
Win. Carpenter, the groom, was examined, and repeated the evi-
dence he had given before the Lords.
Sir G. CLERK, the Chairman, was obliged to desire the witness
to speak out, for nobody heard him in the House
In reply to a series of questions by Mr. Homo we understood
the witness to say that Lady Ellenborough was in the habit of driving
out in her phaeton, which she left at the corner of some street in the
neighbourhood of Harley-street; that sometimes he put the carriage
up ; sometimes he drove about and returned to the spot where he
had left her Ladyship ; sometimes he took the carriage home ;
sometimes he was desired to do so. He bad lived with Lord Ellen-
borough some dine before he went to attend on Lady Elleborough in
the phaeton. He mentioned to the coachman the circumstance of
the horses being kept out so long, but did not mention it to any
other person. He was not desired by Lady Ellenborough not to men-
tion it. He believed that what be said and what he did when he
went out with the phaeton was not generally known. He was
quite satisfied that he never mentioned Lady Ellenborough's con.
duct to any other person, never mentioned it to Lord Ellenborough.
There was a coachman in Lord Ellenborough's service, and he
mentioned to him mere than once that he had put up the horses;
the coachman asked why the horses were kept out so long ; some.
times told him that they had been out for a long ride, sometimes
told him that they had been out riding with Prince Schwartsen.
burg ; he had told this to the coachman, and might have told
hint so when the photon had been kept waiting at the corner of
a street, for sometimes it did wait, and sometimes her Lady-
ship did go for a ride; he did not recollect what the coachman
said, when he was told of the riding out with Prince Schwart-
tenburg ; he was desired by Lady Ellenborough to drive about,
and come again, and then he sometimes went to his own
34 sble to put the horses up; he knew Prince Schwarz en.
burg through the Prince's groom, but never talked to him about
Lady Ellenborough's going with the Prince ; never talked about
this to the coachman; sometimes told the coachman, told him more
than once that Lady Ellenborough went with Prince Eichwartzen.
burg ; saw her when he left her at the corner of Harley-street, going
to her father's • never saw her go into any other house in Harley.
street than her father's; saw her go into a house with Prince
Schwartzenburg at Richmond; he told the coachman that they went
to Richmond, and that Prince Bchwartzenburg and Lady Ellmbo-
rotish went into a house at Richmond ; he did not recollect that he
had ever spoken to any of the other servants about Lady Ellenbo-
rough going with Prince Schwaemenburg ; Lord Ellenborough never
asked him where be or when Lady Ellenborough had been ; he was
quite positive he never told the other Pavanes about ,Lady k.llen-
borough's going with Prince Schwartsenburg.
In reply to questions put by 131 r C. WETHZ atm, be stated that
he had never talked with Prince Schwuternburg's groom about
the Prince and Lady Ellenborough, though he met the groom fre-
quently; he was banded in Lend Ellenborough's family; he did
not recollect that he ever mentioned the conduct of Lady Ellenbo.
rough to any other of the servants but the coachman; he never did
talk to the other servants about it ; the servants saw Lady Ellen.
borough and the Prince ride together in the Park, but he never did
talk to the other servants about. It; there was some talk about it
among the servants; he believed that what was going on was known
amonpt them; there were a gnat many servants, and he believed
that they all knew; most of them, he was sure, did; most of thins
talked about it; they talked of Lady Ellenborough and Primes
Schwartsetiburg riding out together, and nothing else; there was
no jeering about it among the servants that he knew of ; he would
not swear that they had never made a joke of it in the servants' hall;
it was talked of by the females, though what'they said he did not
weedy recollect.
In reply to Sir HENRY HAiDINGE, he stated that be always
Lady Ellenborough, wbeis she went to Harley-street, went
to Vergither'e.
In answer to a question put Wise Marquis' of BLANDFORD,
he said that he had never seitived any money front Lady Ellen.
borough or Prince Schwailsijille. Witness withdrew.
John Ward examined t Mojave the same evidence as he had
given before the Lords. ed the fact of a lady coming fro-
quendy to visit Prince burg, whom he afterwards, by
means of her phaeton and servant, identified to be Lady EL
lenborough. He had seen h in tbe drawing-roorn with the Prince,
and saw bin assist in deem*" her.
Cross.examined by De. LUSHINOTON.—He lived as butler at

No. 11 Harley-street. He was generally employed in his palm
and after his work was done there he went to the front door. He
saw the lady go to Prince Schwartsenburg's between a quarter
before two and four o'clock. He saw the prince assisting to dress
the lady between three and four o'clock. He was then in the
drawing room of No. 11, but he did not recollect for what purpose
he went into the drawing room ; when he warn there he went to the
window and looked into the opposite house. He could easily see the
persons there when the middle door was open, as there was a
light from the opposite side of the house; there were blinds to the
front drawing zoom windows, but they were only half down at the
time ; when they were down he could not see into the opposite
drawing room ; the middle door was open when he saw the Prince
dressing the lady ;he had seen the lady often. He knew the lady
by her figure, but did not know she was Lady Ellenborough. He
had seen her frequently is her pony phaeton in Welbeck-street, in
Harley-attest, in Portland-place, in Cavendinh.equare, and in Wim.
pole.street. He admitted he could not have recognised the phaeton
unless it was pointed out to him, but when he saw it at the coach.
maker's he was sure it was the same. When he saw the Prince
lacing the lady's stays he was in the drawing-roont by acci-
dent, but he had not seen anything pass between them before which
could have induced him to watch them. He had, however, seen
them frequently standing together at the window.
By Mr. BERNAL : He could not distinguish the face of the
lady, but he was certain she was the same person he had seen so
frequently go into the house ; he had seen her frequently stand at
the window ; he could not undertake to swear it was the same
lady, but the impression on his mind was that she was the lady he
had seen in the phaeton.

By Sir C. WETHERELL: There was no crest on the phaeton ;
he could not have said it was Lady Ellenborough's phaeton if he
had not been told so at the coachmaker's ; he never felt any cu-
riosity to watch the prince and the lady when he saw her go there
so often.

By Mr. AGAR ELLIS—He had no reason to know it was
Lady hllenborough who called so frequently on the Prince, until he
was told so in the house where he lived ; he learnt It by converse-
tion with one of the servants ; when he told that servant that the
lady called on the Prince every day, she said it was a falsehood, and
that the lady could not be Lady Ellenborough ; he had no other
reason to know that the lady was Lady Ellenborough except the
information he derived from the conversation with his fellow-ser-
vant ; it was Sir Launcclot Shadwill who appointed hint to the si-
tuation he holds in the Vice.Chancellar` Court; he was not ac-
quainted with Sir Launcelot ; his wife had influence wjth him; he
had no communication with Mr. Freshfleld, or any other person
about this business before his appointment to the Vice-Chancellor's
Court.

By Mr. lILTAIR: It was in October last he had the first com-
munication with Mr. Freshfield about what he had peen from the
windows of his master's house; the house he lived in was not immix-
diately opposite No. 73 ; that house was a little to the right ; but
when the door of the back room was open, the light behind enabled
him to see persons in the room ; the blinds on the day in question
were only half down.
By Sir H. HARDINOE t He could not see the dress the lady
wore, nor could he identify her as the person whorode in the phaeton,
but he repeated his impression to be that she was the same.
By Mr. TENNYSON: He never saw any other female go to the
house of the Prince except servants, and the lady who rode in the
phaeton.
Ann Lewis, the female servant of Prince Schwartzenburg, was
then examined by Mr. ADAK She stated that the Prince occupied
the drawing.rooms, and that the lady visited him two or three times
a week; the Prince generally let the lady in, but she opened the
door once. She never saw any lady but one come to the house. The
evidence of this witness was precisely the same as that given before
the House of Lords.

Crods.examined by Mr. %GAR ELLIS: She did nit know who
the lady was.
By dlr. (I. LA 31B: She was told afterwards that it was Lady
Ellenborough.
James Elkington, the servant of Mr. Oswin, of Tiarley-street,
saw the lady come two or three times a week, and go into the house
of the Prince. The lady's visits attracted his attention in conic.
quence of her stopping in the pony phaeton so frequently at the
corner of Queen Ann-street, and other places in the neighbourhood.

Cross-examined by Mr. HUME—The lady generally stopped
about 20 yards from the house ; he had seen her stop more than a
dozen thnes. He knew Admiral Digby's house, but he had never
seen her go to the Admiral's at any time when she stopped in the
pony-gig; he did not think that the boy who was left in the phaeton
could see where the lady went, because the angle of the street pre.
vented him ; be knew it was Lady Ellenborough's phaeton from
the boy and the livery.
Mr. ADAM then said he should ?roceed to call evidence to prove
the acts of adultery committed at NV lmbledon.
Mr. HUME begged that the witness Carpenter should be re.
called. In answer to several questions, this witness stated that he
had stopped with the ph:2ton in Harley-street, Queen Anne-aareet,
and various other places, and that he had never seen Lady Ellen.
borough call at any house but her father's.
William Wheel, the post-boy who drove Lndy Ellenborough to
the Countess St. Antonio's, at Wimbledon, repeated the evidence
given before the House of Lords on the subject of her being joined
there by Prince Schwartzenburg.
Mr. HUME suggested the expediency of calling the coachman to
whom the groom had told the circumstances which he had described,
in order to keep up the chain of the evidence, and to show how far
Lord Ellenborough was or was not cognizant of what all his family
appeared to be talking about.

Sir C. WETHERELL spoke to order. That would be a subject
for after consideration.

John Prior, a waiter of the George, Queen Anne-street, and Ro-
bert Wheeler, a waiter at Brighton, and Robert Hepple, another
waiter at Brighton, gave evidence in substance similar to that which
they had given before the House of Lords. The last witness, on
aoss-examination by Mr. Hume, Mr. Gordon, Sir Henry Har-
dinge, &e. stated, that he had seen the gentleman, who he under-
stood, but whom he did not know, to be PrinceSchwartzenburg,
re into Lady Elknborough's apartment ; that after ten minutes he
the waiter) Went to Prince Schwartzenburg's room, and found that
was not there, but that the door was locked and the key out of
It; he also stated that he mentioned the circumstance the next
morning to Mr. Walton, and at a later period to Mr. Freslifield ;
that there was no communication between the east and west wing
of the hotel except on the wound floor ; that he had watched of
his own accord; that Lord and Lady Ellenborough never re-visited
the hotel.

Thomas Dunhill, book-keeper at Mark's, the coach-builder, and
William Wheel, were then examined.
During the examination of the last witneu, Mr. HUME ob-
ser►ed, that in the thin state of the House it was not advisable to go
on with the examination.

The CHAIRMAN observed, that at least the whole of the evi-
dence of the witness under examination ought to be taken.
Another post boy proved to having driven the Prince on a stage to
Brighton.
A post-muter, at Cuckfield, proved Prince Schwartatetiburg's
passing on the road to Brighton, on the 6th of February, and from
Brighton to London on the succeeding day. The wanes under-
went a long cross-examination, but without eliciting anything of
importance.
Walton was again called, and swore tosihe waiter at the Norfolk
Inn communicating to him what he had witnessed between Lady
Elleoborough and the Prince. The witness had never communi-
cated It to Lord Ellenborough, or to any body but his brother;
witness's brother (the keeper of the Norfolk Inn) had discharged his
waiter for mentioning what had occurred in the house; witness had
' been discharged for the same cause • his brother wished to have kept
the affair &secret, for he thought it might atlket the character of the
hotel : he had accused witness of having given the information of the
intrigue which led to Lord R.'s sending his agent to collect evidence;
witness had not written any letter to Mr. Freshfield on the subject;
Lady hlienborough, on the 6th of February, had given the witness
201. for not divulging what had passed ; witness had been to Lady
Ellenborough, and told her what he knew, and she pre him the
201. half of which he gave to his brother waiter to hold his tongue ;
after witness had got the 201. the other waiter went and divulged the
whole story to his brother, the keeper of the Norfolk Inn ; witness
kept the 201. till October, when be pve half to the waiter, for it
had got abroad that he had received the hush money; Lady
borough had confessed to witness that she had done extremely eritlig.,
and entreated witness not to expose her ; witness bad exposed ha le
his brother the day after be took the 201. for secrecy.
Robert Heppel was again called—He communicated to Wakes,
his master, at eight in the morning, what he had seen in thuelt
and then communicated ft to Walton, the waiter ; never
any money from her ladyship, but bad received only 61. from WaL.
ton, the wafter, for secrecy, two or three days after the 7th of Feb.
be said it was a present from Lady Ellenborough, and witness
thought at first it was for his services.
Cross-examined by Mr. HUME—He had never received any in
October; he received the 6/. a few days after ber ladyship left the
home.; when he told his master what had occurred, he found his
muter knew it; witness was surprised at this; witness had not told
anybody else ; witness left his situation in December, inconsequence
of having mentioned this; that was the cause of hL discharge; at
the time he was discharged he had not received any money; was
discharged because be appeared to give evidence in this case
By Mr. R. GORDON : He was not discharged for writing any
letter ; be did not write an letter to London ; be had never re-
ceived ten pounds from Walton; he had never received anythibg
bat the five pounds t he meant at that time ; In received fire pounds
then, and sometime afterwards he received another five pounds;
that lot five pounds was lent to him; Walton lent it to him; so be
considered ; he had not yet paid it back; when he had said that he
only received the five pounds, he did not think be had been asked
about the five pounds that was lent.

By Mr. IL GRANT At the time this sum of U. was lent,
Walton told witness that it was a loan.
Mr. it. GORDON commented upon the gross contradictions in
this witness's evidence, and then moved especially, with reference
to the last part of his testimony, that Walton should be called
again to the bar to confirm or contradict it ; and that Heppel should
remain while Walton was questioned about the matter.
Mr. HUME also wished that Walton should be called back.
Walton was then called back to the bar; and, in answer to ques-
tions from Mr. Gordon, said, that he bad before stated that he had
received Hit received it to hold. his tongue about what had
passed—in fact, as hush money. Witness gave IW. of that money
to Hcppel, the waiter. lie gave money to Heppel on the 10th of
October last, and not before that time. When he gave Heppel the
IW. he told Heppel that it was half of the money be had received
from Lady Elienborough to hold his tongue. He did not give it to
Heppel as a loan. Pe never expected Heppel to repay him that
money, or any part of it. lie neither lent money to Heppel then,
nor since that period. He had not given Heppel any money since
then ; he had paid the expenses of the witnesses within these two
days ; he paid these ten pounds in two sums of five pounds at •
time; he paid them within a short time of each other; the first was
about the 10th of October—not before that time.

Cross-e:;;inedbylil7. VARBURTON: He had never told
Heppel that he expected to be repaid the ten pounds. or any portion
of the sum.
By Sir. K. GRANT : Heppel never told witness that he would
repay the money, or any part of it.
By Mr. It. GORDON: He did not give Heppe! the five pounds
before the 10th of October, tar while Lady Ellenborough was in the
house ; he never told Heppel that her ladyship sent him that money
for his attendance; witness was Dow doing nothing ; since he left
his brother's he had resided in lodgings ; he maintained himself
upon money he had previously saved.
By Sir H. HARDINGR—He did not give Heppel the whole'
ten pounds at once, as he was abort of money at the time.
Mr. HUME asked Heppe! bow be could reconcile his two state-
ments—first, that he had only received 51. and then that he hnd
received 51. afterwards

Heppe' answered. that he always conceived the second M. was a
loan ; he never thought that he received more than 61.—the first AL
on account of keeping secret what he knew about Lady Ellen.
borough. The first U. was given witness within • few days after
Lady Ellenborougit left the house, and that was for the purpose of
keeping him quiet about what he knew.
Mr. R. GORDON : What! was that told you at the time?
Heppel answered in the negative. When he said what that mo-
ney wu given for, he did not mean that It wu explained to him at
the time, but it wu explained to him some time afterwards, and
now he knew what it was given for.
[This testimony appeared to excite a strong sensation among the
M embers. ]
Heppe' continued: The cause of this money being given to bim
was explained to him not locg ago; perhaps about three weeks ago.
By Air. R. GRANT : that was after you received the second a ?
Heppel answered in the affirmative.
Mr. It. GRANT.—Then how could you say that you considered
it as a loan, and that you thought you were to repay it?
Heppel said, he still considered it as a loan.
Some AlEnacas said, the witnesses might go back to Brighton,
for what they were good for -(Cries of order !)
The witnesses were ordered to withdraw.

Mr. HUME rose to move the adjournment of this examination.
The Chairman ought now to report progress, and ask leave to sit
another day. He did not think any advantage would arise frum
continuing the examinations at that hour.
Sir H. HAKDINGE objected to that course.
Mr. It. GORDON supported Mr. Hutne's motion for an ad-
journment. The house really was too thin to proceed with the ex-
aminatons at present.
Sir H. HARDINOE proposed that Miss Steele's examination
should be taken. That lady was • witness of undoubted respecta-
bility, and he should wish her evidence -to be taken now. He had
every desire that the case should be gone into most fully ; for the
more it was examined, the more, he was convinced, it would appear
that Lord Lllenberough was entitled to the relief he now prayed at
the hands of the house. If Miss Steele's examination was taken
now, he believed it would close the ease foe the bill; and he thought
it ought to be taken, not only for that reason, but because that lady
had been in attendance some time, and if examined now, need not
be put to further inconvenience.
Mr. HUMS opposed proceeding any further at present. He
could assure the house, that when he first came there it was not
his intention to ask a single question, nor had he done so until the
apparent, the evident contradictions in the testimony of the witnesses
were so great as to induce in his mind • suspicion of coma-
vanes. He really had never read the evidence that had before
been given, and he should not have interfered at all but for the
cause he had stated. He wanted to know what evidence had
been given, for he really bad not as yet read anything of it ? It
seemed from what he had heard to-night that all the servants knew
of these occurrences for some months; in fact, that they had been
the topics of common convetsation in the family. Now he wanted
to know what the servants that had been examined had said, and
whether more servants would ant be called to explain all they knew
about the matter ?He had hoped to-day to have been home by
five o'clock, but he had been kept here about this business until
that hour ; and now he was obliged to go away, for he had a very
pressing engagement.
Sir H. HARDINOE pressed the hon. members to go through
the examination of Miss Steele.

Mr. HUM E said there were not forty members in the house, and
he did not think with such a thin attendance they ought to go into
the examination of witnesses, some of whom, it wu evident, had
received bribes, and their testimony was therefore suspicious.
Sir H. HARDINOK said that the fact that a witness had re-
ceived bribes did not of itself vitiate his evidence.

Mr. Alderman WOOD observed, that surely the gallant officer
did not mean to say that the evidence of such persons was worthy of
belief. _ _

Mr. GORDON again observed on the very thin attendance of
members, and said that Wednesday was rather an awkward day to
fix for such an examination.
Mr. Hiram and Sir C. WITHEIELL left the House.
Sir H. HAHDINGR then observed, that if members who had
taken an active part in the examination absented themselves, it was
impossible to goon. He repeated that he wished the case to be most
fully investigated, satisfied as he was that the result would be favour.
able to the Bill; but after the hon. member for Montrose and the
hon. and learned member had withdrawn, be felt he could not con.
veniently press the examination further to-night.
The further hearing of the case was then postponed to to-morrow
(this day.)
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House
adjourned at a Quarter to Nine o'Clock.