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FRIDAY EVENING, JUNE 10, 1831.

said be really felt himself quite overcome by the
overpowering manner in which they had received
hia name; with heartfelt gratitude be returned them
his warmest acknowledgments. He was quite
aware that it was because his name was coupled
with the great measure of reform that it was received
in a manner so flattering. Pledged, as lie was, to the
support and advocacy of that great measure, he felt
that he had some claim to their confidence. He
thanked his colleague for the kindness with which
he told them that there was a new broom for
them, but he had addressed them so often that he
felt the edge of the broom was worn off, and that
it had lost much of its freshness. But he hoped
he should acquire experience in the House of Com-
mons that would supply the place of froshneee.—
Hie colleague had already given him a hint not to
talk too long ; and if he trespassed, he would trust
to his friend to renew the admonition. (A laugh.)
He had inttruth very little to say to them. One
subject occupied all their minds, and that had been
so often spoken on, it had now become trite.—
(No, no, no.) But he must congratulate them on
the success of the cause they were met to celebrate.
They might have delayed the celebration for a few
weeks, when victory would be achieved ; the victory
was already theirs. The cry for reform had gone
forth through the land—the people were united in
its support with the King and his Ministers, and
the House of Lords dare not be against us. (Great
cheering.) We had triumphed, and in a few weeks
should have reform. (Cheers.) He could not see
this without emotion. He could not say that he
had been an advocate of reform for half a century ;
but he had read the history of the country,
and he knew that such men as Lord Grey and the
Duke of Norfolk had all their lives advocated re-
form, and it filled him with emotion, to see them
DOW obtain a reform which then they could no more
have expected than to see England a republic.
Seven thousand five hundred men had long sent to
Parliament 280 Members, forming an acting ma-
jority of the House, because they were the nomi-
nees of boroughmongers acting against the people.
(Cheers.) It was in vain to say that till before
last Session that these 7,500 should not return 280
Members, while twelve millions of the people had
no vote. Some of the Lords said, why cram your
Reform Bill down our throat before we have time
to know what it is; but this was only said to delay
the Bill, in the hope that by leaving it to the
chapter of accidents, something might arise to de-
feat it. (Applause.) The House of Commons ought
to be a controul not on the people, but for the peo-
ple. (Cheers.) They ought to possess a delegated
power. He had heard one of them say that he saw
no reason for reform ; he had purchased his seat, and
was accountable to no one, but could act as be
thought best, just like a Peer. Members should
certainly have an opinion of their own, and not be
puppets; but they should be accountable to the
people —the people might then say, " This is our
opinion, if you agree to it you shall be our repre-
sentative."—(Cheers.) He congratulated them on
having at length got a Ministry anxious, as he
firmly believed, to do the greatest possible good to
the country.--(Cheers.) Lord Grey, he was con-
fident, did not value office for its own sake, but as
the means of doing good to his country.—(Great
applause.) He had long sacrificed every object of
ambition that could find gratification in the pos-
session of place and power to his principles, and
would not accept office but on the condition of Re-1
form receiving the support of Government. They all
knew that he had had a hard gale to weather; but he
had been supported by the people and by the King,
and in spite of the boroughmongers had brought his
ship into port. (Applause.) To such a Minister,
so tried and proved, they might give their con-
fidence—he would never truckle to any King, nor
could he ever desert the cause of the people. Of
another Minister some might think he ought not
to speak ; but he should only speak of him as a
public man ; and he would say, that the Chancellor
had always been the friend of the people, and he
was now too old to change. (Great applause.) No
reform would do more good to the trading portion
of the community than his bill for the reform of
the bankrupt laws; and there could be no doubt
the present House of Commons would pass it by
such a majority, as the Lords would not like to set
their faces against ; and it was but the first of a
series of bills for the improvement of all proceed-
ings in Chancery. (Great cheering.)

GENERAL MEETING OF SHIP-OWNERS.
A general meeting of ship-owners was yesterday
held at the City of London Tavern, Bishopsgate-
street, for the purpose of forming an association
of ship-owners of the United Kingdom, in confor-
mity with the recommendation of the general ship-
ping and colonial committee.
Mr. BUCKLE opened the proceedings of the
meeting, by expressing his regret that circum-
stances bad prevented their having the assistance
of Mr. Alderman Thompson, who had been sud-
denly called to a distant part of the country. No
one would regret the necessity of his absence more
than the alderman himself, as this aas a cause in
which he felt particularly interested; but as they
could not, under these circumstances, have him as
their chairman, he should propose that Sir George
Palmer do take the chair.

Sir GEORGE PALLIER, on tat iag the chair said,
the unfortunate occurrence which bad brought bin►
into the chair was so well explained by Alderman
Thompson's note, which had been read by their se-
cretary, that he should only say, that being a ship-
owner himself, and haling been coonected with the
shipping interest during the whole of his life, be
felt it his duty to support this association with all
his power. On the 10th of April, 1828, a meet-
ing had been called in that room; but, from the
falling off of the funds, the society virtually had
died away. An extensive correspondence had since
been carried on with the different out-ports on the

subject of the meeting. On the 18th of February
last, there was a general meeting of the shipping
and colonial interests, and from what occurred then,
a meeting took place on the 10th of April last, and
a report was drawn up, which he should call on
Mr. Chester to read.

Mr. CHESTER read the report, which went to
some length in st:.ting the grounds of the forma-
tion of the society, and recited the resolutions which
were passed on the 10th of April, 1828, alluding
to the then depressed state of the British shipping
interest, and the necessity of their associating for
its support. It also gave the proposed regulations
of that society, and a copy of a letter from its
honorary secretary, Mr. It. Carter.
After reading the report, the CHAIRMAN said it
was his business to listen to what might pass from
othersrather than say anything himself. The necessity
of their coming forward to support the shipping in-
terest, no one could doubt. It had been attacked
for the purpose of improving the other great interests
of the country. He had waited to see the result ;
he bad watched closely, but be had not discovered
the promised improvements, in either the agricul-
tural, manufacturing, or other interests. Now,
when ourpolitical economists had entered into this
subject in the course of their calculations, they had
not taken the smallest notice of the increase of the
population ; but he hoped the time was drawing
nigh when they should get rid of theoretic princi-
ple;, and return to practical common sense.
Mr. AARON CHAPMAN thought it quite unne-
cessary to call their attention to the great interests
which he was then representing ; for it must be al-
lowed by all in the united kingdom, that the great
depression which that interest had suffered through
the policy which had been adopted towards it, had
become so manifest, that a general feeling pervaded
the country that it ought to be supported. Other,
interests had their representatives; and how much,
more advisable would it be that they also should be re-
presented, that whenever any thing respect-
ing that interest was brought under consider-
ation, there might be a competent body to
whom they might refer. In every question
connected with the shipping interest, it must
be advisable that Government should have a body
to whose sense and opinions at large they might
refer. When they looked back to the division
which took place in the House of Commons, he
did think that the importance of that interest lay
in every man's mind, and it was quite clear the im-
portance of the shipping interest should not be trifled
with ; and that them were occasions when the Go-,
Ilvernment of the country would be glad to have their,
advice. It had been acnowledged by all parties, that
the treaties made had not met the expectations of the
country ; he therefore trusted that on their expire-
don, such a fair line would be drawn as they had
a right to expect; and he would further observe,
beyond that fairness be would require nothing.
But as ship-owners, so long as they were called
on for an additional expenditure, they had a right
to a fair protection with the other interests of the
country. He should conclude by moving the
first resolution, to the effect, that they agree to
the resolution of 1828.

Mr. Youxo felt convinced of the importance of
the subject befo:e them, and of his incapacity to
treat that subject in the way he could wish. It
was a point requiring no variety of argument, it was
confined to one dry and mathematical point—
whether or not the course recommended in the
resolution would tend to their pecuniary interests.
Some of the reasons for which shipowners should
associate for self-defence had been ably stated by
those before him; but he felt that the depression on
the shipping interest was such, that it must be Mt by
all the inhabitants of the country ; many of its causes
were indisputably beyond theireoutrol, but there were
many circumstances which pressed on the British,
shipowner which might be avoided, and it could not
be denied there were many burdens on the shipping
interest which might be removed. There was the
Port of London duty, which at the present time
could not be justified by any reason whatever. There
were the regulations in the quarantine of ships
from the Baltic, which would subject them to the
loss of many thousands, and which, so far as he
could learn, was not called for to the present extent.lf
a saving could take place,it ought.lf they did not as-
sociate to stop them, other regulations would be
adopted. It was therefore necessary they should, as a
body, step forward to prevent them. He would
give credit to the Government for good intentions,
but it could not arrive at excellence but by the aid
of some such body as that proposed. For if com-
munications were made by individuals, however
excellent that individual might he, that opinion
might be at variance with that of the general body.
And he thought that the state of the British mari-
time interest should be laid before Government by
those whose opinions would have more weight than
that of an individual. It appeared to him that the
proposition wns so plain, that he could not think
the ship-owners could object to pay a small pecu-
niary premium, to protect interests of so much im-
portance; and, in seconding the resolution, he
could no: conclude without saying, that be hoped
that day might be the dawn of a brighter era to the
shipping interest.
Mr. URQUII A RT made some observations as to
former associations and the depressed state of the
shipping interest. In the course of his observa-
tions he was called to order by Mr. Powell, stating
this meeting was called for the purpose of forming
a shipowner's society, and not to discuss irrelevant
topics, on which Mr. Foster and others thought
Mr. Urquhart was not out of order.
Mr. URQUHART was allowed to proceed, after
which the resolution was put, and carried unani-
mously.
Mr. Pow LES had been a member of the old so-
ciety, and would be happy to give his assistance in'
oigimising another. As an instants of ties prts-
Sure on British owners, he would allude to the trade

with Mexico, which employed from thirty to forty
ships : but that Government thought proper to fix
discriminating duties affecting them, rind in con-
sequence the whole of this trade would unquestion-
ably leave us, and fall into the hands of the Ame-
ricans, if this difficulty were not removed ; which,
from what he had heard, he hoped would take
place. Ho then alluded to the attempt during
the last session, of taking off 2s. 9d. per load
on vessels from the Baltic, and to the effect of
taking off protection from the shipping interest, to
protect the British farmer. In the shipping society
Ito which he had belonged, the expenditure was not
more than 1,0001. a year; yet, for every 11. so laid.
out, he received back 1001. by the indirect effects
of the efforts of the society. This society might
be supported on a similar income, but there should
be a surplus fund. If something were not done, a
very valuable body of seamen would be driven
away; but he hoped no such result would take
place. He also hoped that no one would keep back
his support, thinking that the object would be ef-
fected by others: he made this remark from wit-
nessing the reluctance of parties on former man-
sions. He concluded by moving the second resolu-
tion.

Mr. GOULD, after some few observations, al-
luded to the decrease of the tonnage of British
•easels, which, since 1816, had amounted to 16.000
tons, and although the tonnage at present was to
the amount of 1,800,000, in which 90,000 sea-
men were employed, yet, taking into considera-
tion the increase in our population, this decreasu
must strike them forcibly. It was a misfortune
that the old society had been broken up—the con-
sequence which followed Mr. Huskisson's policy ;
but "de mortuo nil nisi verum." We had rea-
son to think Mr. Huskisson, before his death, had
in some measure altered that opinion, which was
contended for so closely by his disciples. He should
conclude by seconding the resolution.
Mr. HENRY BLANSHARD moved the third re-
solution—That subscriptions be entered into for the
establishment of the society, and that shipowners
be requested to inscribe their names in a book.
Having for several years been on the last com-
mittee, he must refute the observations which had
been thrown out, that private motives had actuated
its members. He had on that occasion laid it
down that the British ship-owner should be put on
the footing of the foreign ship-owner, and protected
as the other branches of the community.
Mr. RULE seconded the resolution.
Mr. Froartrx made some few observations.
Mr. FORREST moved that a committee be ap-
pointed.

- Mr. BLit's seconded the resolution, remarking
that they made it their boast that their interest was
connected with that of the British colonist, and if
they did not support that point, the ill-effects
would fall upon themselves. They were not put on
an equality with the foreigner, be built his ships
cheaper, and manned and officered them at a lower
rate. He then alluded to an observation of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, as to the getting
remuneration for the loss of 100,000 tons, by an
' increase in the coal trade. Since 1814, the British
navigation had diminished in the proportion
of one-third to the increase in the
popula-
tion. The British colonists bad no supporters
but the great ship-owners of this country,
and all their efforts were useless till the
shipowners came forward and said, if you de-
stroy the Colonies, you destroy the great shipping
interest of the country; and why Amid a great
commercial and maritime country like this be
left to the scholastic disputations of the scholar only.
The North American Colonies were threatened with
the destruction which was set against them last
winter. After some further observations, he con-
cluded by secpnding the resolution.
Thanks to the Chairman were then proposed and
carried, when the meeting broke up.
The room was crowded by numbers of gentle 4
men interested. The resolutions were carried una-
nimously, and names were immediately entered in
a book.

ROSS-SIIIRE ELECTION.-Mr. Davidson, of
Tulloch, having taken his seat es Preses, Mr.
Mackenzie, of Applecross, rose and stated, that as
the canvass of Sir Francis Mackenzie had been in-
terrupted by a sudden call of the Honourable Ba-.
ronet to England, in consequence of the death
of a near relation, it was not the intention of his
friends to put him in nomination on the present
occasion. Sir Hugh lanes, of to:halals and
Coxton, Bart. then rose and prcposed Mr.
Mackenzie, of Seaforth, whose high talents and
character rendered him a fit and proper per-
son to represent the county in Parlia ent, which
moti. n was seconded by John Hay Mac-
, kenzie, Esq. of Cromertie and Newhall. Sir
James Mackenzie rose to propose his hon. and
learned Mend Mr. Mackenzie, of Kilcoy, who
possessed, as all the freeholders knew, a literal
and enlightened mind, whose attention to the bu-
ness of the county was unremitting, and who, if
returned to Parliament, would, he had no ()oat,
watch over its agricultural and commercial in-
terests. Cadboll, sen. after a warm eulogium
on the impartiality and ability of Kilcoy as con-
vener of the county, seconded the nomination.—
The roll was then called, when Mr. Ross, of
Cromarty, was called upon for his vote : he rose
and stated, that upon all former occasions he bad
never trespassed upon the valuable time of tbe meet-
ing, but contented himself with a silent vote. Upon
the present occasion be must state that he considered
the three candidates as altogether unfit for the repre-
sentation of the county of Ross, where not only a
very large majority of the actual proprietors and of
the valued rent of the county, but also a majority
of the freeholders possessing superinrities, were de-
cidedly anti-reformers, or reservers of the consti-
tution, and consequently that whichever of the can-
didutes was returned, did not represent the senti-
ments of the county of Ross. Mr. Macl..od, of
Cadboll, replied to some ohjections which Mr. Ross
had urged against the reform bill. On the roll
being called, Mr Mackenzie, of Seafortb was
elected, the votes for him being 28, and fur Mr.
Mackenzie, of Kilcoy, 21.
ELeeit A rts.—Elephants are now used is Cey-
lon for ploughing the rice-fields, and in preparing
new grounds for the cultivation of coffee, pepper,
&c. An elephant will perform the work in one day
which 20 bullocks were in the habit of performing
before. In a country like Ceylon, which is di o very
thinly populated, by Ibis system of employing ale-
pne--"-nts much time is oared, and a great dnlof agri-
[cultural work performed. An elephant say It pur-
r chased in Ceylon It any dose for 101. as 151.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.

GERMAN PAPERS.
(RICEIVDD Tlllll DAY.)

VIF.NNA, MAY 28.—A courier, who left Con-
stantinople on the 14th, passed through this city
yesterday, on his way to Paris, with the answer
8,1 Crime Guilleminot to the letter :ecalling him
flow his post. The Count only waits for the ar-
rival of his successor to return to France. Bul-
letins were published at Constantinople on occasion
8.1 the victories of the Grand Visir, and the defeat
d.; tic rebel l'azhas. Festivities had been ordered
accanint of these fortunate events, but nothing
Inal yet been pabliAted respecting the rewards which
await the Grand Visir for this important service.
Otters from Cracow say,
_ that General Paz has
had an engagement near LIMON with the corps of
l:eneral Kreutz, but without any decisive result.
The Polish troops in the vicinity of Zamosc, are
rutted at 8,000 men.

The taking of Ostrolean by the Polish main
army, which got possession of important Russian
magazines, and its advance against Bialystock,
have caused a great sensation here. It appears
that the Lithuanian insurgents were previously in-
formed of the movements of the Polish army ; •for
it is said that "bout the same time sevetal Cracovite
and Lithuanian insurgents advanced from the vici-
nity of \Vilna towards Grodno, and hover about in
the neighbouring forests, with tie view cf assisting
the troops expected from the kingdom of Poland.
All these circumstances it seems have induced
Count Diebitsch to retreat over the Bug. The
accounts from Lemberg respecting the cholera mor-
bus, are far from satisfactory.—Allgemeine Zei-
tunq, June 4.
VIENNA, MAY 2.B.—The following balietin of
the defeat of Mustapha Pacha, of Scutari, was
published at Constantinople on t4te 13th inst.
" Conformably to the notice contained in the
last bulletin,* the Grand Vizier was pursuing the
rebel Pacha of Scutari in his flight. By the aid of
the ALMIGHTY, this rebel is wholly annihilated by
the defeats which he has lately sustained front the
victorious arms of the Sultan. lie could not keep
his ground, either at Kopriii or Uscut, but fled,
beaten and hopeless, accompanied by only three or
tour rebels, to Scutari. Deputies from Koprili and
Usltut were immediately sent to the Grand Vizier,
with petitions imploring pardon, and offering to
submit to the Sultan's commands. In the same
manner, all the Bcgler-Begs and other chiefs have
deserted Mustapha Pacha, and he is now an object
of their imprecations. Nifzi Paella, in order to
atone for his fault, has even occupied with his
troops the passes of Katschanik and others, through
which Mustapha might attempt to escape. Nay,
Hussein, Pacha of Varna, in order to obtain his
pardon, engaged to deliver up the said fugitive alive
or dead, and is eagerly pursuing him. The whole
population of these districts has begun to submit
and implore pardon. The Grand Vizier himself
Las ordered a detachment of his regular and irre-
gular troops to advance towards Uscut, and has
issued orders to the authorities of Scutari, and
on the road leading to it, that Mustapha Pacha
shall no where be received, but immediately seized
and delivered up. The Grand Visir was carrying
into effect the farther measures rendered neces-
sary, in consequence of his glorious victory. These
accounts have just been received here from the camp
of the Grand Vizir.

The Corfu Gazette of 30th April and7th May,
gives more detailed accounts of the defeat of Mus-
tapha Pacha. —Austrian Observer, May 29.

• The Constantinople Mall of the 10th is not arrived at
Vienna, so that the bulletin containing the preceding opera-
tions is not known to us.

came necessary to restore order, and to provide for
the vacancy in the Government. All the members
of the Chamber of Deputies who were in Rio col-
lected hastily together, to deliberate on the proper
course to be pursued, and they determined on the
appointment of a Regency, to be composed of three
individuses of their own body. The persons elected
were, Francisco de Limn, by 55 votes, Carcavelas
by 40, and Vergueino by 30 votes. They imme-
diately took upon themselves the supreme power,
and their first step was to appoints Ministry, com-
posed of the following:
Jose Ignacio Borges, Finance ;
°clans, Interior ;
M. Jo-4e de 83. Franca, Justice ;
Jose Manuel de Morass, War;
Jose Manuel de Almeida, Marine:

F. Carr.eiro de Campos, Foreign Affairs.
Jose Jonquim de Lima e Silva was appointed Commander
of the Forces.

On board of the Volage frigate, bound to Eng-
land, were the Emperor, the Empress, and the Mar-
quisses of Cantogallo, Rio Pardo, and Berdal. On
board of the Seine, French frigate, were the young
Queen of Portugal, the Marquis and Marchioness
of Lola, with some ladies their attendants.
These are the principal facts communicated.
More complete details will of course be obtained
when the letters brought by the Daphne reach
town. That vessel has already sailed for Lisbon
to carry this important news to Don Miguel.
The rate of exchango on England was 22 at Rio,
on the 17th of April. —Morning paper.

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