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'an Aceottht of the Number of Persons wise had isreeived Divi- -then etpressed a doubt whether the hop
dendiop that-Those per Cwt. Stock clue lo Immaiy last; elistip-
the Speech would not he nearly dc.
inisleMithe number of those whose dividends were ender 4to, ..se._,_.
stroking at the Estimates which had bee,
£3O, CLoof moo, .Csoo, [tow, sod £2OOO. And a Take Ac-'
thellouse he could not forbear fro!.
ccount. respecting the Dividends last due upon the Three-and-s.: ,
half and Four per Cent. Stocks. . . 'the-expectation raised by that Speech
.The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did Sant the gather nullified. He should not, tl
to oppose the motion, to which he saw not the least objection ; . theßeport to be brought up without
but as the accounts in question would take a considerable time
in the making out, he thought the lion. Gentleman would have Ito prove his assertion. The diffe:enc
no objection to give the House some idea of the purpose for I between the Ussimates now on the tabl`
which he wanted the information. last year, was about 114,0001. This
Mr. RICARDO said, be was aware the making up of the ac- difference ; and_ this Was the result 91
easonts.pould take a considerable time, but he did not wish to
been protnised. Of -this inns about I,
ems for them in any hurry, so as to inconvenience the Batik.
11r. BA RING proposed that the motion should be amended, longed to the Army Estimates; as dyet
so as to distinguish Dividends under ,e 5. an expenditure of upwards of six
This was acceded to by Mr. Iticasioo,.ond the motion, as amount of those Estimates last year w,
mended, was put and agreed to.
and those of the present year amounted
Lord A. HAMILTON presented a Petition from the Royal
lamb of Perth, complaining that the Corporate Affairs of the He appealed, then, to the House and
Burgh were mismanaged, and that the Election was in effect whether Ministers were justified in pi
made by the aruiurarea.—Ordered to lie on the table. Majesty's Speech the expressions whir
•the '
On the motion of Mr. WALL Corn- ACT, the House went into a Co-
on its deliver y at commencement
mime on the Warehousing Bill. The Chairman was directed
to move for leave to bring in a Bill to encourage the warehousing It could not be said that the Army, eit
of goods, by exempting them from the payment of duty on their or expense; had keen increased in conse,
first entry. state of the co try, with regard to it
The liouse having resumed, the Chairman moved for, and ob- (ions ; for the situation of the country
tamed leave to bring in the Bill.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL brought in a Bill for se- to Ministers in the first instance. Hi
curing to his Majesty, his heirs, and successors, the property to propose to go into the question whetter
which he was entitled on his atcession to the Throne.— Dead a men were necessary in consequence of
first time, and ordered to be read a second time next Thursday. country, but he complained that ex,
tbOTY OW COALS. been held out which were not realise(
Lord A. HAMILTON presented another Petition therefore, to put upon a record a fact
from the Ccal Proprietors of Ayr, complaining of those expectations were a delusion. 1I
the Export Duty on Scotch Coal. The duty to which a resolution, stating, that upon an ex:
the Petitioners referred, and .of which they corn- millions there had only been a reducti,
plained was, that which was imposed on the exports- upon the comparison of a similar el
non of Coal from Scotland to Ireland. He wished year, and adding, that this reduction h,
to know from the Hight Hon. Gentleman opposite the expectations held out by the Sp(
whether he intended to propose any alteration of the from the Throne, which stated, that t 1
Duty on Coals which might benefit the. Petitionets? be laid before.the House would be lot

The CHANCELLOR-of the EXCHEQUER said
it was not his intention to propose any alteration in
the duty upon Coals.
"Mr. GRENFELL said, that as this Petition was
connected with a question which had lately been
much discussed in public, he would take the present
opportunity of stating his sentiments on that ques-
tion. He was not inclined to press this Session for
any remission of the Duty on Coals. Many persons,
however, were of opinion that the coastwise duty
upon coals was extremely oppressive; and he trusted,
therefore, that if any further remission of taxes were
decided upon, this patticular tax would be well con-
sidered, with a view to its remission if possible.
Mr. C. HUTCHINSON said the tax upon coals
was generally felt by all classes of the ccsmmunity.
Mr. BENNET thought that the two millions winith
had been reserved for the support of public credit,
as it was called, would go a great way towards re-
lieving the public from the tax in question. That
sum had, however, been applied to the Sinking
Fund ; and be had rro doubt that many months
would not elapse before the House would see his
Majesty's Government.in possession of that very Fund..
Mr. Alderman WOOD thought the City of Lon-
don had .more reason than any other place to com-
plain of the duty on coals, as the duty was but 6s. 9d.
per chaldron on the coals unladen on the other side
of Gravesend, while it was 9s. on those unladen on
the City side. The Ccountry Gentlemen, he rather
thought were .not aware of the importance of this
tax, as it affected the agricultural interest; for the
duty on coal operated as a tax of eight shillings an
acre upon ground nurtured with lime.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY concurred in opinion with the
Hon. Alderman. He begged to observe, that the
Coal-owners of Tyne had nothing whatever to do with
the high price of coals. They often received but six
shillings a chaldron for the coal which was sold in
London at 60s. and the highest price they ever ob-
rtained for the best coal was fifteen shillings per
ehaldion; and this at a time when coal was sold in
London at betweenseventy and eighty shillings. The
profit derived by the Coal-owners was as small as it
possibly could be, taking into consideration the large
capital which they were compelled to employ.
Mr. LYTTLETON felt it to be his duty to speak
on behalf of some of his Constituents who were pro-
prietors engaged in the Inland Coal Trade. As to
the general question of the remission of the Duty, he
had no doubt that its remission would prove of very
little advantage to the Public ; for its amount would
find its way into the pockets- of the retail Coal-
dealerst all events the remission of the Coast Duty
would be a serious injury to the Inland Coal-dealers,
unless the Inland Duty were also taken off. These
duties had been established nearly a century, and the
House would, undoubtedly, not take them off sud-
denly; He was satisfied the doing so would be at-
tended with most ruinous consequences to those who
bd embarked large capital in the Inland Coal Trade.
Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE trusted the House
would pause bere they pressed the Chancellor of
the Exchequer to sake off this duty. He was not,
however, at ell apprehensive that they were likely to
'do so. The question as to this remission of duty had
caused a great sensation in the City; but he trusted
the House would never consent to injure the vested
interests of those who were engaged in the trade.
Mr. MAR RYATT said, that considerations re-
spetting-the Inland Coal Trade would tender his opi-
bion unfavourable to the remission of this duty,
though-be thought, in its present operation, it was a
great hardship. Helad the means of knowing that,
on aieount of this duty, the sugar refiners of the
Hans Towns obtained English' coal at a cheaper rate
than the London consumers.
I Lord A.-HAMILTON, in answer to the observa-
lion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, explained
that the present Petition did not complain of the
general ;duty on Coal, but on the duty which was
imposed on the exportation of coal from Scotlaad
td
Mr:ORATTAN said a few words in favour of,
encouragement of -importation of coal. to Irelandi
and the Petition was then ordered to lie on the tables
and be printed. '
ARM! V'TifilAVE.I.
' -Lord PALMERSTON moved the Order of thp'
Day for bringing up the-Report of the Committ-
ee Supply.
Mr. HUME said, that before this
.Report was-
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Nolutio-

duced, on a comparison with those in
to be framed with a due attentiot
There were many Hon. Members wl
Army ought to be reduced, and that
ought to be added to the Navy. '
question which he should not enter
because he considered the Report abot
up as altogether provisional, and liabl
should the situation of the country 0
should not divide the House upon hi
intended to divide it upon matters of
should be disclosed by the Report ; .
wished at present to put the sentimet
pressed upon record. He moved,
amendment to the question for brings
port, a Statement of the comparative
Army Estimates for last year and ,
"that so small a reduction as 15,0(X)1.
penditure of upwards of six millions,
the expectation held out by the Si
Throw., that the Estimates would t
been prepared with a due regard to ec(
Colonel DAVIES said he concurree
expressed by his Hon. Friend, but sh(
the vote for the numerical amount in
he feared that war was inevitable, not
France and Spain, but between Franc(
Sir W. DE CRESPIGNY said he
reason to believe, that the fear expressed
Friend proceeded entirely from 'his ow-
Lord PALMERSTON said the mr
nourable Member Called upon the l-h
dict the expressions contained in the St
Throne, merely because he thought
the various Estimates to be laid before
not sliest, a sufficient re. uction in tit(
diture. The House could better form.
sistently express an opinion on the sul
the Estimates had been gone througl
to the Army Estimates, it would be
tion of the House that he had last yi
would probably be an increase in tin
year of 50,0001. They Were, however
the House reduced by 18,0001. It
18,0001. as the Ifonourable Gentlenn
self see if he cast them up, for there
of 3,0001. He was therefore entitled
Army Estimates were presented to
stantially reduced by 68,0001. His
able Friend, the Chancellor of the E:
erode his statement to the House on
lairs in a general way, including of
Once and Miscellaneous Estimates,
yet under the consideration of the H(
duction he (Lord P.)' fiad just shewn
limn of the statement of ! is Right, on.
The Amendment was then pur and
the Report was brought up and read.
On the first Resolution, stating the
Army,
.being put,
Mr. BENNET said, that he consent
expressly on account of the peculiar •
country. Were it not for that peculi,
should consider the number of men as
The Resolution was then agreed to.
The second Resolution, for the
charge for the Land Forces, was agreed
• On the Resolution respecting the
Recruiting Department,
Colonel DAVIES said, the amour
"rfas increased every ',car, and appear
with the reduction of our Arniy. F
that if a different mode of . carrying
ing Department were adopted, it wou,
much more efficient, and less expensi
had had the honour of a-seat in that.
always condemned the present mode,
mentioned it now lest his taciturnity r
stood as an alteration of his opinion.
vote there was a considerable charge
two Regiments of Cavalry. He wi
Lordlo state what had become of Lb(
%teatti Regiments ?
PALMERSTON expressed
that the present mode of conducting
Dep was the most efficient am
slim.. conviction
for
been pro&
rience. " Time charges -.or the preerir
.to be increased; but in fact they were
'apparent inctease arose from the rem(
tHooswagerg en.t!:alloded bythe
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brought up, he was anxious_ to ;Omit a Resolution
to the- Hobse. In the Speech 'which ban been deli-
vered- by, Iris Majesty's Commissioners,. at the be"-,
gillieig'Of the Sessitin;it *as stated that the gictiaiatis
I.willeb would .be .laid before the House bee4'
framed with every attention to economy. Ile had

--able Member. -10se • Regiii
cently arrived from India, and the•
mura them could, thetefore, not
.a pArt of expense of h e present y
ilorses hiabeen sold, ttncrtbe diteiena,
between the amount for which they *old