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-care of Ireland ? aid also he would ask every Grand
Liror of Ireland who had a seat in that House, whc.
ter he would consent to the Resolutions drawn up
y nien who were formerly. Members of this Catholic
;, :rd, and by- whom the Bill that had been primed
111 circulated 7-; as now attempted to be forced upon
le House ? Speaking of Mr. O'Connor, who hid
:fa unanimously elected a Member of the Sub-com-
inee, the Right Hon.• Gentlentan quoted several
icse inflammatory sentences from a speech which he
delivered in 1813, on the subject of the Bin then'
~tight forward. This person had descillsed the
eeches • made against the measure,•is.“ rulfian
its," and added—". Oh h may this be the last
alt of English victory over poor,.fidlen, add delu-
:d Ireland. May the day star of Ireland arise (by
;:s, said the Right Hon. Wideman; I :oppose he
Nutt the present Bill) and break by -its effulgence
lit chains which Lilo, are about to rives on my court-
-o—Stich was the language of the man who hid
'..ove up the Bill which the House was now calllid
Ai to accept, hut which it could not sanction without.
+t» Boning all pretensions to legislation.. After' the
yrit_which had been manifested by the Roman Ca-
AO, it was in vain to hope the measure now sug-
:ested would prove satisfactory. It was useless to
loceed in the business if any restrictions or
_condi-
tais were to be attached to the arrangement which
-v were to make. If it were an act of injustice to
.:thhold that which was required by the. Roman Cs•
, Lilies, then he would agree that the Resolutions
they might have passed were things .which
irglit not to be regarded ; but if it were argued that
at which they were called upon to enact was to
,iiciliate the Catholics, then it. became necessary to
avert to their former conduct, to skew that in this
:pea the measure must,prove nugatory, as it would
Tpear that nothing less than the whole of what they
;quire,' would content them.. He then read the Re-
luiion of the Catholic Baerdin 1.81,3,.in which they
::clared, that they thought at that particular time
: was necessary to re-adopt their resolution of 1810,
n which they -had declared, that as Irishmen and as
:Idiotic, they could never admit of any interference
m the part of the Crown in the nomination of their
3:shops. No settlement could be coniidered, the re-
!ution went on to declare, till this point was con-
::.ded. This resolution was introduced by a remark-
t ,le speech faint a certain Dr. Drumgoole—(iiltsagh.)
• referred to the speech of that person, in order to
,•ow that it was more than probable the author of
: would nut ba contented even with. the Bill which
was proposed to bring in. He then read
,part of
.he speech, in which it was asserted 46 that the Estab-
>!fe,i Church could not be shaken, if built on a rock;
would in that case brave uninjured all the storms
• unie, but if built upon sand, no human power could
support it. It was in vain that Parliament affected
the power of omnipotence, and decreed it should exist;
it was in vain that the lazy churchman should call to
the, watchman on the tower that the Church was in
Conger ; these could not save it, though novelty
Living had its time must fall, and nothing but
the mischief which if had caused would remain."—
Such was the speech which had preceded-the resolu-
tions unanimously voted by the Catholic Board.—
Fr..m this it would be seen there was little prospect
of effecting the arrangement so much desired, but ifl
proot were still wanting, he would read the resolu-'
tan come to.by die Roman Catholics, on the cede-
sastical clauses of the late Bill. He proceeded to
Lead the resolution which declared, the proviAions of
Oat Bill to be utterly incompatible with the Roman
Catholic Church and their religion. and such as tilt),
could not accede to without incurring the guilt of
Khism." He next referred to the memorial circii-
hted by Dr. Millner in the lobby of that House,
May 21, 1813. That paper he thought zt was unite..
tessary to dwell upon, as it must be still in the recol-
ktion of the House. He remenitiereit at the time
it had been 'treated with,,tnitch ridicule, and particu..
1:11, by a Right Hon. Gentleman, now his Majesty's
Ambassador at Lisbon, who contended it would et
absurd not to pass a law in consequence 91 such a
raper. Yet, on the 29th. of the same month, the
Roman Catholics resolved in full synod, atter being
i'aormed of the existence of this document, if That
C;e Right Reverend Dr. Millner, their vigilant and
is corruptible agent, their powerful and unwearied
alvocate; continued to possess their esteem, their
c litidence, and their gratitude." Under these cii-
trustances, it was not to be expected, that by agree-
i7g to the present motion, any thing could be done
bat would conciliate the Catholics. He had under.:
s:cod those, who formerly supported the Bill, to de.
care, that if they failed of carrying that vacuum,
aia of giving satisfaction to the Catholics they would
give up the cause, and not continue to agitate the
flestion year after' year. If they were sincere in-this
ceclaration, and he hoped it had not been used as a
ine argument to catch a few votes, he trusted it
rould now be acted upon, and that they would be
I,remost to oppose the renewal of that, which in the
present temper of the Catholics of Ireland, must prove
aut unavailing discussion.
Sir J. NEW rowr thought the speech .of the
Right lion. Gentleman rather calculated to irritate
tun to conciliate. There was much to complain of
ti all sides of rash and misguided zeal ; but why re-
Ilse to listen to the prayer of large bodies of men,
I>?cause individuals had expressed themselves in an
intemperate manner ? lie had never disguised hie
tpinion tlfat the best security which could be given
t) our establishments, hod:yin Church and State, was
vi afford the whole empire complete community of
r glos and privileges ; but a huge portion of the ern-I
I.ire thiaight different, and maintained the necessity
tf s-me restrictions. What had passed out of the
ll It.e was with him a matter of no consideration :
r :..iiiestion was, a question of justice, and might as.
sttt he agitated without a petition as with ,it. . The
linuse ought not to abdicate its province of inquiry
i,lO a grievance complained of, on account of the in-
tomperate expressions of a few individuals who felt,
to piessnre. Such seemed to be the doctrine of the
ktant Hon. Gentleman ; but he (Sir J. Newport)
mould rather say that the best means of healing the
tistiiig soreness, was to examine into its causes tem.
rrately and fairly. Refusal to do so would only
produce increased irritation, and among
,so large a
'b thy of men increased expressions of dissatisfaction
•-•uld bi, the necessary result. The duty of concilia-
at all times proper, was still more urgent at a
int:heel the eountrj was mitering upon a new war,
l''d 'Alen it was the height of impolicy to paralyse
'e tuitions of it or 5 million *of your people by ra-