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London, England, 1831-09-27 00:00:00

TUESDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 27, 1831.

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. that he has an exoglamt assortment of PAPER-1
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PACTS

Q. How do you account for the tut. dat Me-
bitsch did not take Warsaw for se =turf mouths,
notwithstanding the near approach of the army to
that city ?
A. Because Diebirach was a bad Gametal., and
did not know how to follow up the age he
• • had gabled ?
Q. What do you believe will become" of ties 24
thousand Poles who have retired on Medlin ?

&e.

.WITH .THE FALL OF
WA. RSA W. • .
The following is p---7=as noissiCs
monstiat s imetirisoseisbie
American phyakitan, wlito has just wt." sijilliet
from Warsaw, which he left on the 4th of August.
Although he quitted,Poland prior to the melan-
choly massacres, and to the subsequent capitula-
tion, yet the facts he mentions will assist us most
materially in understanding the events which have
subsequently transpired :
Q. You went to Warsaw to study the cholera
morbus, and attend on the Poles ?

A. They must either capitulate or take refuge
on the Prussian territory.
Q. Do Ton gonsider, this.; apse of the,
suirill7=l:erri..4.„- .
A . -
Q. Do you think that if all the population of
Warsaw had been unanimous in driving back the
Russians, that it could leave held eat much

longer ?
A. There can be no doubt of this ; but when I
left, all the merchants, traders, shopkeepers, &c.
wished tit. affair to he brought to a termination—
and it was this portion of the population and the
Jews who capitulated, and not the other portion of
the population.
Q. Would the Russians find many of their pri-
soners on entering Warsaw ?
A. No. At one time there were 15,000 Rem-
ain prisoners there, but they were sent off very
s'ortly, and were allowed to proceed to Prussia.
The Poles could not sustain the expense of main-
taining them, and no remittances arrived of any
importance from foreign powers. There could be
very few H ussian prisoners, except officers, when
Paskewitsch entered Warsaw. A good many
Russians joined the Polish cause. These will
never be forgiven by the Emperor.
Q. Do you know any thing of the state of the
revolution in Lithuania and Volhynia ?
A. No, nothing at all. All the news we re-
ceived was very imperfect.
Q. Do you believe that any further resistance
will be attempted by the Poles after the recent
events ?

A. Yes, I did.
Q. Have you yourself been attacked by the
cholera morbus?

A. Yes, twice ; the first attack lasted three
hours, and the last attack eight.
Q. Do you believe the cholera morbus to be
contag'ous ?
A. lam sure it is not : I am as confident of this
as I am of my own existence.
Q. How then do you account for your having
been attacked ?

A. The disorder is in the atmosphere, and I was
necessarily exposed to its effects by mounting the
guard, by eating coarse and bad food, by getting
wet through, and remaining in damp clothes.
Q. Do you know of any cure for the cholera
A. As to niy own case. I took small doses of
opium, and subjected my body to friction and
heat ; but it is impossible to prescribe the same re-
medy in nil cases. Regard must be paid to the
nature of the attack, to the constitution of the
patient, and, above all, to the existence or non-
existence of fever.

A. I think not, because they always relied on
the assistance of France and England, and espe-
cially of France ; and now they find themselves
disappointed, they will abandon themselves to
despair. The most which can now be done for
the Poles itto obtain an amnesty as general and
full as possible, and the recognition of Poland as a
nominally independent kingdom with a constitu-
tion, bet subject to the dominion of the Emperor of
Russia.

Q. Have you heard of the remedy so much
spoken of, the oil of cajeput ?
A. I have ; but for myself I should not use it.
Q. Do you think the malady will extend to
this country ?
A. Very probably; but we have so few facts
that we can scarcely venture to pronounce an
opinion.
Q. Is it not true that the easterly wind has
sometimes been known to drive away the malady'
A. I do net know *le; 'but all epidemics pro-i
grass against the wind.
Q. You believe, then, that it is a malady which
is in the atmosphere, and that you cannot prevent
its arrival by sanitary cordons !
A. Precisely so ; though we have very few
facts from which to draw our conclusions.
Q. When you left Warsaw, were the Poles
unanimous in desiring the defeat of the Russians ?
A. They were not: the army was unanimous ;
but the Jews, who were to the number of 30,000
in Warsaw alone, desired the success of the Em.
peror. _ _

Q. Did you experience any difficulty in tra-
velling through Prussia?
' A. Yes, I did ; I was obliged to wait a week at
Berlin for passports, and was detained It Broi-
-1 law, &c.
Q. Do you think that British and French tra-
-1 yellers are all serrtd alike ?

• A. No : English travellers are treated better
ithan French ; and as to French passports and the
French government, they are treated every where
with contempt and seers."

PARISI, OF LAMBETH.

Yesterday, in consequence of a requisition to the
Churchwardens, signed by 164 respectable
inbpbi-
tsnts, a full meeting took place to petition the
House of Lords in &vont of • the Reform Bill, in
the Vestry-room, Church Street.
Mr. Churchwarden Ronson in the Chair.
Mr. Mons, in rising to move the first resolution,
laid he was very happy to see such a nu meronsbody
of his fellow parishioners assembled on the present
occasion, and he considered it a sufficient answer
to theallegations made by the enemies of the Bill,
that the people were getting indifferent about the
measure. Another reason of theirs was, that the
system had worked well, and why should you alter it
for one which has never been ti nod, and which must bel
destructive to the best institutions of the country ?
In his opinion this required no answer: true, the
system bad worked well, but for whom ? certainly
not for the people. It had worked well for those
boroughmongers who could command five or six
votes in the House of Commons, or for that class
Who could say to the Minister, " We are seven."
• No doubt it bad worked well for them, and of course
it must have been bad for the Country. He con-
sidered that the giving of the franchise to tenants
at-will in farms, was a blot-is the bill ; but he hoped
that now farmers would insist on having leases. The
division of counties was, in his opinion, a beneficial
measure, as it would destroy a large proprietor's
interest in the other half. Mr. M. hoped that the
Lords would pass the Bill, as it was necessary for
the safety of the country. He concli;ded by mov-
ing the first resolution, which was to the following
effect. " That thirmeeting are of effigies that
the Bill for reforming the representation of the
people in Parliament, which bas just passed through
the Ifouse of Commons, is a measure, the great
principle of which, if carried into effect, is calcu-
lated to promote the tree interests of the country,
by giving to the great body of the people a House
of Commons fairly and freely chosen by them-
selves, and therefore affording the best hopes of
as amelioration of their present condition, and the
best security against future misgovernment and
extravagance."
Mr. SLADE seconded the resolution, and stated
that be had been a reformer for upwards of 50 years
having clunthenced his political career with that
great, upright, and revered man, Major Cart.
wright.
Mr. BrattylXLD proposed the second resetatimi,
to tie' a Sect, " that the enemies of • Refortii. ,ia
wiring *as they had, that. the people wools Ae.
owning cerame .sad indifferestto the incomes alibi
Bill," were guilty of the grommet iand moe4itad-
-404 misrepresentation. The peopli vrevolso;
=scions' Al its success, c,onsidering it of
sisal importaece, and the only guarantee thateoitil
be furnished for saving the country from anarchy
and confusion, and believing i', as they did, to be

Q. Are the Jews in great number all over Po-
land ?

A. Yes, they are, and iire uniformly tot the
government of the emperor, as being, in their
opinion, mare favourable to Commerce : they deli»
neither rights nor liberty ; they wish only to mete
money, and as the revolution in Poland prevented
them from making money, they detested the re-
volution.

• Q. Was the Polish army as large as has been
represented In the French and English journals ?
A. Certainly not ; I do cot believe there were
over more than fifty thousand men in the Polish

army.
Q. - Except the Polishjews, do you believe that
all• the rest of the nation desired to be relieved from
the domination of Russia ?

A. Most certainly, as welt the nobles as the

I peasants.
Q. When you left Warsaw on the 4th of Au-
gust, was it well provisioned?
A. Quite otherwise: The provisions were dear,
scarce, and of a bad quality, and there were not
more than enough for a month's use.
Q. Was Warsaw well fortified?
• A. Certainly not : 'how can you fortify. a.town
six miles in circumference without immense re-
sources, which Poland did not possess ?
Q.. Were the Poles without money?
',:nh:-Certaisly they went they were without
atioleVi Orme, and provisions: 'whilst their toe-
mime were supplied with all from Prussia as well
as,aossia. ' •I •• . i •
- Q. Were not setae offers made of pecuniary as.
eistecce from England?
A. Oh yes ; a person mime from England to
Warsaw to offer alcian at PoaTr-vrve ran
Cony 114. she. government simply expressed its
thankeit nod-declined the offer.

Q. As then the P.les were without monets
arms, or provisions, how could the army hope to
triumph ?"
A. :Because it relied on French protect's:in and
assistanCe : the Polish Goternment rereieed the
must positive a,surances that', if it would fiold
out, Freddie and England, but perticatarly Fr slice,
would obtain from Reissit the recognition of Ole'
tadopendenee• of lkohliact • A deputation went',
from' Warsaw tetlie Stead-quarters of Sktsinecki,'
to impress oir him. that be need not commence br
!Mime broth operations: tigaineC" alb Phalan
in.lnea lista a month br• Verb the
Enipeiroe thrbtigh• the intervention of
Francei‘willsdrase his loop •
: •
Qt: Tout *ode i don thae;lthat the inaction of 'the
Polish' may- far -ootoo .ttioko to be 'attributed
Wails impression, that France would assist the.
Poles ?
A. Most certainly I do.

' PRICE SEVENPENCE.

altogether impossible that the country could be any
longer governed under the existing system of
corruption, undue isafluence,and political profligacy.
Mr. FAILEY seconded the resolution, and advo-
cated vote by ballot.
An amendment was moved to one of the resolu-
tions, which stated that the Reform bill passing
into a law would be conducive to the happiness
and prosperity of the great boiy of the people.
It was proposed u an amendment that the word
a should be inserted; the amendment was, how-
ever, lost.
Resolutions were also passed expressing thanks
to the Ministers aad it was ultimately agreed that
a petition should be presented to the House of Lords,
praying them to pass the bill with all possible
dispatch.

SPIRIT OF THIS DAY'S JOURNALS.

Ttues.—The law of England is, like the Peers
of England, the creature of society. Society was
not mado for it, nor for the House of Lords. If
a law exists for whose repeal the whole nation cries
out, as for a change essential to its well-being, yet
which certain constituted authorities, composing
perhaps a body of some three or four hundred per-
sons, or rather a majority of them, flatly refuse to
concur in,—that is to say, after the representa-
tives of the ()softie in Parliament have, by their
majority, declared that such a change is indispen-
sable, and voted for its immediate adoption,—we
ask, with all humility, what, tinder such untoward
circumstances, ought to be the conduct of the
aforesaid nation ? " Obey the law, of course," we
shall be answered. Good ! What follows, there-
fore ? If it be right, if it be just, that a nation
of 22,000,000 of people—that their Sovereign
fully sympathizing with them, and their represen-
tatives in Parliament speaking their desires,—.
if, we my, it be right and just that all thess
powers should submit themselves tamely to *
negative put upon their common demands by the
separate body of a few hundred individuals le
question, that they should pay such obedience
for one year, it is equally requisite that they
should do so for an hundred years,, or for ever,- It
is, therefore, according to the spirik of the
Constitution, that a certain class' of 300'0r40
Englishmen—we don't say who or what they me
—should withhold for ever from the King, COON
mons, and people of this empire, it benefit. *hi&
they ell declare to be the only possible means of
saving the state from destruction. The loathsome
reptiles qf the hehieghirma amt vitt* tbeit
remotes the beet and ablest Rae In ihaeommeaky.
who take up the gauntlet WOO.* ti asL. down
to them, and display at public meetings their
virtuous devotion to reform. Nevertheless, look
at those meetings--do' they languish ? Does
the call for them subside ? Some important ones
we have already noticed. Now follow the names
of Middlesex, Brighton, Canterbury, Cheltenham,
Chester, Cornwall,..Exeter, Glocestershire, Glas-
gow, Gravesend, Leeds, Romsey, Surrey,- South-
ampton, Tewkesbury. Every pariah in Bath bald
separate meetings, Launceston, Darlington, Fal-
mouth, Cbippenham, T6xteth-park (adjoining
Liverpool) Melksham, Oldham, Lees, Royton,
Kendall, Devonport, Plymouth, Barnard Cleat,
Bishop Auckland, North Shields, Sunderland. In
Scotland meetings have been held inEdinburgh,
Leith, Dundee, Greenock, Glasgow, Stirling,
Caper, Kioghorn, Kirkaldy, Arbroath, Dunferm-
Nees Kittle, &c. We have also notices of a great
many meetings which are intended to be held in
the course of the ensuing week, • which are

among
the counties of Wilts, Lancaster, Devon, and Total of the Roes of Peen..
Northumberland, exclusive of Kent. Surrey, and In this mixed list there are a few
Middlesex, as noticed above. There's indifference (we hope very few) insane Peers,
for you! capacitated by age and infirmities
HIRALD.—The Marquis of Londonderry has Peers are absent, and who will not "
an Irish propensity to a row. He shines upon proxies ; but in present Peers and
points of order. The absence of the Lord Chan. estimate that nearly 400 of the British
cellor from the Howe of Lords last night afforded Nobility will legislate on the Reform '._
the noble marquis an opportunity for vindicating readers will not fail to notice the remarkable
the orders of the House, and no one had certainly age of age, a great proportion of the .
a greater right to vindicate those orders than one upwards of 50, and a considerable number
who had so often made the House feel the intone- of 65. Thirty archbishops and bishops r
Dienes of their violation. Even in this ve'y in- ful any; and the Scotch and Irish
stance he gave another of.his practical lessons, by bebly ill-affected to the ministry.
entering into comments when he ought only to Lord Brougham mast buckle on their
have given his notice. It seems that the noble display energy and nerve befitting the
marquis is to cathechise the Lord Chancellor on the men thrown up by revolution will
subject to-morrow (this) night. We hope that the places. We defer many reflections r.
noble and learned lord wil be prepared for his pons of Parliamentary influence ; and
formidable antagonist. In.'eed, we have lit- point the attention of the country to '
de doubt that his lordship will get over of hereditary legislators when every
Ithis mighty affair, even though the Earl veted with anxiety and trembling
of Eldon has lent his authority to swell it of that right honourable bOtuie I -*
PA it LIAM
into importance. A charge of negligence IMPERIAL
sounds rather oddly against Lord Brougham.
It was not by negligence that he aide the HOUSE Off San.
nation ring with the wonders he performed The workmen base erected doe gallery t
in the Court of. Chancery. We do not like to dation of the Peers, and win proceed with ..
impute link motives to great min ; but when ran•tiTeblit4....„l°l a the dutssweeeed with
Lord Eldon " begged the House- not to suppose „r„ the s,gre„l:7,l before them.
that though several cases of bankruptcy were The Earl Of SHAFTESBURY took
disposed of by the present Lord Chancellor, his Woolsack as DertLlkfekeri
Lordship would never bear of those-cases again," LArDpupkre°ll27"Df"4rom ibtlLMarcilita Romanl‘
—when Lord Eldon descended to make this ins& Galway, on the subject of the elective franchise.
station, he took the worst possible means of pre- 4 petition to the cone effect: was presented "
MI ling that contrast from..beiog drawn which be
F•luß.f.m'uip.
s. Bridge Street Bill was brought op from the
ought to bethe last man in the kingdom tor pro-
c
rake by any iulis.retion. •If any noble lord is weak • • PAILLIAMiII ART enrol N.
enough to suppose that he can end. orate the rant The Marquis of WltnriliNSTßit rose to present the
servieee,,elready conferred upon the public by the parities of the lobabitasithoitseholdent of Westminster pray.
jedieial• lab Ours of the present Lard Chancellor, I,sg_f°!°•ll,7.4ihiP' t° Pus the.. !i,f.itiewi Pi11. The
,i`itltiti
marques not to tne great 40400 Ouch
itt :irellureatiAlt those I +boos. e° inferior. 'ln that %haled iii mina': ' Pisinidere ' deleesen be kntig..i.,
mist of. 3oillostanes-‘..04.ti1k-of listening tq s . be irl
asisbuilaiiiils'ito the paitiotterk he could mw
gh of the Marquis of Londosideary, or of atop ' avoid ... .i!!!.?..-PF.Uilaii oii-r:rilloos. "Tbe prtitien
. thatlieeth. by wont wit- to mien
we ears was
tesorat a natamous Ina respec:abla amethig. ft
sod in thee r .ge
tOy oil, that' he will find bat 'feet ta'qyiepthite sink, sett iMtribi ofyred WOW!
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with him, and those few much be Lorria.., .14.. is rs =Mai ma ' -. : ' a tilt •tildr
quilbionotieg le obverse the sires isuportanca-at-.1 lk° `l:i.eitiiiiirwr la alit'abai thhigliii"l6ll724%..
to be given to the absence of Lord Brough- ~,,,„„„t, in ore weber Heierirbthate. iliSliillsibileprillu—
.l.7Cdone night, and that a night for which no place la the public opinion spoil the eziredleney el &hem

In consequence of the inaccuracy of such statements, per-
sons bad started up not only in the city of Westminster, bat
in all parts of ti.e country, to,deo,y the stirne, and implt re
their lordships to lode noetime inissaling, tart bill. The no-
ble marquis also reminded their lordsblpe that the great mer.
chants of London had met in the Egyptian Hall to petition
then ; and he thought that Hann wodld do well to eunsi.
der the petitions of those persons, who said, if the bill should
have the misfortune to be rejected by their lordships, the
greatest ex..speratio m would take place through the country,
and the consequence must be a fatal blow to public credit.
Petitions coming from persons of influence ought to be re-
ceived with the greatest ant ntion.The noble marquis was sorry
to find a spirit adverse to reform is parliament had sprung
up at Cambridge. lle had heard that a petition bad
been prmoted by the University of Cambridge, and
that it was on its say throne% that county. Their lord-
ships would know the consequence attached to such a
petition. The popular voice had been heard on the
subject. It was hold and favourable. They had only to
look to the county of Uorsetshirc, where it had been said
there was a great re action, and the anti-reform candidate
would walk over the enure:. The free was, that the reform
candidate had been received with universal applause all over
the county of Dorset. Wherever the voice of the people
had baen heard, that voice had been in favour of reform. It
had been asked what would their lordships do? Would
they reject the bill ? The noble marquis was not able to
say what their lotdships- decision might be, but he really
I:.thight their lordships •ought to agree to the measure
almost unanimously. (Hear, hirer.) A certain number
of lords were in possession of property in places entitled
to return members of Parliament, but there was good
reason wily noble lords who were in possession of that
property should be favourable to reform. A certain num-
ber of lords in that house were borough proprietors (he
need not call them boroughmongera); and it had been said
they would not consent to a measure of this sort without
compensation; but the noble marquis could not think,—
looking at the magnitude of the great question, that their
lordships would be swayed by private advantage. There
was another point connected with this question. It bed
been said that the question of reform did not belong to the I
peers. If the House of Commons were desirous of reform- I
mg themselves, why should the House of Lends interfere ?
Tise noble marquis did not say that house had no right to
interfere, but he would remind their lordships that there
was such a thing as discretion. That house ought to act
coiraitutionally, and reflect that if they refused to pass the
greet measure, the shock would be great. The noble mar-1
quis then read the petition, which was laid on the table. ;
He then presented a second petition, front the city of Ches. •
ter, signed by 4W) or 500 person more than had appeared
upon any former petition. It entreated their lordships SO
p:,si the reform bill without delay.
The petition having been read,
The Earl of ELDON rose ander considerable excitation.
" The noble marquis was pleased to say the peers of England
had no interest in the question of reform. I heard these
words from his lips—(hear.) And I heard the noble mar- I
quis give advice to the peers of the realm. I will do so—l
have no doubt the peers of England will do their duty. The
time will come when it will be stated before the people of ,
England what that duty is, and what the peers ought to do '
for their sake. I have no objection to declare that 1 differ
in opinion from many noble lords for whom I have the high-
est respect. I have no hesitation in saying I Invents right
to complain of the opinion any noble lord may give in this
house, but so far from thinking the peers of England have
no interest in this question. I say the country has no con-
stitution left if the peers ofEngland have no interest in it My ,
lords, 1 have lived loyal—l have respecud the laws—and '
after living to the age of four score years, 1
would rather die in this place, (hear, bear,) than ad-
mit that the Peers of England have no interest in ;
this question. (Hear, hear.) It is one of the most absurd
statements ever made in Parliament. (Heat.) I hope and
trust those who debase this bill will do their du.y. Ito man
ought to be in this house if he do not conscientiously du
hit duty. (Hear, hear, and loud cheering.) No one is
worthy to be here, it' he is disposed to give way to any im-
pression or feeling beyond the lair discharge of his duty. I
do not deny that lamentable consequences may happen if
you reject this bill; but to say this house has nointerest in
it I will never consent. Let those who do their duty have
the consolaion of saying, we have ddae our duty to the throne
and the country."
The Marquis of WESTMINSTER, in explanation,
stated, that the noble and learned lord had spoken upon an
erroneous impression. He bad not denied that the house bad
an interest in the question.