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PA4V44,VgNTARY PROCEEDINGS.
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The tC6A moo; "'Coed &swan se the Executors of the last fear, "bit* Was or rere4-
late Sir IL. Vine Tempest,' came aa to.day, and the Judge*
of PublieServants Wallet% both
Mr. FIUME neat moved for an Atcount *grebe total number
attended: Aftetketunsel, were beard at their Lordships' Bar,
opinion of the other pert:tient% who becatne de4uhers sioce 181 n; toeether with the
them, end Me men
taken, if any, to recover
to theoeriny *el Navy Do=
the Loan Cuter Joaeses delivered the
Judges, and jimme wits postponed till Monday. . 'balance due by
At five cetlWthe Loch Cueemietos• took his seat on the the sarne.—Ordered.
1,, .r. • Mr. HUME also Moved for Rents of the Jeepeeeteere of
'Owners
Wadosahu ..-; ; . . . Mr.Tho ASsetilda, ritiVATII preiented a Weldon from the the Eseabllehmert at theellint np to &h Jti reel—Ordered,
and Occupiers of Laud in the Vale of Taunton, corn- . Mr. LUSWNGTON sni:ed that the Fetimases for the
Wear and Tear of the firdnence Department he laid before the
plainini of Agricultural Distiesio mid praying foi- reliefe—Laki
on the tablee—Adjourns!. , Ilouse.--Orderdo
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. LUSH! N G TOs wished that the Hen. Gentleman ( Mr.
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' Home) would postpone the *Action of which lie had given no-
Generaltice, respecting Hawkers and Pedlars, and Haokney-coacheo
The Specesh took the Chair at ten minutes before four.
GASCOIGNE moved. for leave to brieg in two
as an inquiry was then pendia* which it would be expedient to
Bills, one tor erecting a new Church, and the second for build-
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ing a Fish-Market, in . Liverpool.-oleteve being granted, both bring to a conclusion first"
Bills were brought in, and read a Stet and strand time. Mr. HUME had no object*** did eccordiogly postpone
it to this day for-oil:ht. :- • ..
&feral; new Members theit'eame by and took the oaths and .
their seats. Among them were observed, Mr. IL Parts the Se- The Sixth Repolt on Rubric Charities was brought up accord..
, Int to custom, and lied op the table.
crem, for the home De partment, and Mr. Fp.aueweer.
Mr. didersitatt WO9D.presented a Petition frons*Mr. me- .On ow majoa of 'Mr. Hesse, * notice, 'of which he had
mas 'M =inis sof Sligo, in Ireland. The worthy Alderman re_ given make on a previotteeloht, was rent by the Clerk and
cited arose pairti of site Petition, which stated leaf; in-11118. a. Mr. DA SON brongin up irem !lie Nice of the Secretary iticbutell' el. •
Iv
erenepiracy was formed. Nesbitt him by the Magistratei of that
of State for the Home Department wine papers respectirg
County—that, being arrested under their direction, he had
brought up his securities at great expense, and, on his way with Toutsportsi &e.—Laid on the table.
the officers of justice, be turned out of the road to a tenant of BREACH be PrtIVILEGE.
his, in order to get some money from him ; and that this was
Mr. LUSHINGTON moved for the reading of the Order
construed Into an escape. The worthy Alderman then went cf the Day for going into a Committee of Supply, with a view
over all the hardships, perils, and inconveniences which the to postpone it.
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Petitioner had suffered. Ile had applied to the different Courts
Mr. HUME rose and said, that be never Understood due
of Justice, and to the Secretary for Ireland, as well as to the Government had authorized that letters directed to any Mem.-
Marquis of Londonderry, but without effect. Not Succeeding hers of. Parliament should be stopped and opened by persons in
in any of those applications, he brought his grievances humbly office. He was understood to sty, that a letter directec to him
before that House, and prayed to be furnished with Copies of by a convict in the hulks, had been broken open by one of the
the Correspondence which passed between him and the Secre-
Inspector.. The question which he wished to put was, by what
nary of State for Ireland, &e. As the Assizes were about to
authority those lettees,irith the names of Members of that House
commence in Ireland, Mr. Flanigan had occasion to attend them. on them,were stopped and opened?
Mr. plom said that he believed he was Secretary to the Mr. PEEL said, that in every case letters were opened under
the'eircumstances which be was going to state. No letters were
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland at the period to which the Petition
referred. 11e had no recollection of the transactions or gto be received by the convicts, or sent by them, without the in-
of which the Petition complained; indeed, he did not remem-
known, rievances
spection of the proper officers. The -regulations were well
known, and, indeed, were in print. If. was under thkibther..
bee ever hearing even the name. He could have no objection
to the bringing up of the Petition then, so that the printing of it rity of those regulations that the letter addressed to the Hon,
was postponed.—The Petition being then brought up, Gentleman (Mr. Hume) was opened. If there was good autho-
rity for opening the letters at all—(hear, hear)—why not let-
Mr. PREJ, again rose, and said that he was wrong in stating-
that he did not even hear of the name of the individual. He ters addressed to Members of Parliament as well ai any others
certainly did recollect him, and made inquiry into the circum- (Hear, hear). It was passible that a 'Member of Parliament
stances of which he complained; and could have no hesitation might be made an instrument of without his knowledge. lie could
assure the lion. Gentleman that the escape of cer,victe had been
in saying that the Petition contained grass falsehoods.—The Peti-
tion was ordered to lie on the table. prevented, in ccnseouence of their letters being opened. By
that precaution four convicts were prevented from csc tpint,-, last
Lord LOWTHER presented a Petition from the Occupiers
of Land in certain parts of the County of Westmoreland, corn- year. Since that very letter was written, addressed to the Hon.
plaining of Agricultural Distress.—Ordered to be printed. Gentleman, he could assure him that the very individual who
had forwarded that letter, had been deteetedeno gross fraud....
Sir E.' EN ATCHIIULL presented two Petitions complain..
' Mr. HUME wished to know at what date the fraud referred
fog of the distress under Which the Agriculturists were labour-
e name of the individual, he believed, was Jones
ing. One of them was (torn Occupiers of Land in the Eastern
division of the County of Kent, and the other from the Southern to by the Hon. Gentleman had been committed? lie had seen
division of the same County.—Both were ordered to be printed. the Captain of the vessel in which the individual alluded to was
Mr. JOHN FANI presented a similar Petition from Ikn-
placed on the last Sunday but one, and then nothing had been
ley-upon-Thames.—Ordered to be printed. • said against the man; but, on the contrary, his conduct had
Mr. CUR'rEIS presepted a Petition from the Occupiers of been mentioned with applause.
Land in the Rape of Pevensey, in the county of Sussex, corn- Mr. PEEL could not say at what precise date the fraud re-
ferred to had been committed ; but he apprehended that it was
plaining of AgriculturaMistress. Ile said that the agriculturists
very recently, and most probably since the time mentioned by
bad, In the last year, represented their sufferings to Parliament,
the Honourable Gentleman. The man Jones had written a let-
bore the hardships of their situation with the greatest resign-
hopes that something might be done for their relief. They
ter under another name, and it was by this that he had been &-
na-
tion, in hopes of some improvement in their condition, but time tested in a fraud. •
and patience produced nothing but an sggravatiou of their dis- Mr. BENNET said, no doubt it was the prerngatire of the
tress, and an exacerbation of their feelings. The Petition stated Crown not to allow any communication with those convicts;
convincing facts, and was couched in firm and strong language, but he did not see how their grievances could be redressed other-
but was, at the same time, most respectful to the House. He wise. The case seemed to him not to be the stoppage of letters
to A, B, C, or I), but the stoppage of letters containing corn-
thought other classes of the community should bear some part of
the burden, as well as the agricultural classes. The country, he plaints of grievances, addressed to those in whose power it was
thought, could derive no benefit from the problems and argu-
to redress them—(Elear, bear). He held in his hand a letter of
ments of political economists. He would henceforward vote for Lord Sidmouth's, of November, 1814, in which a doctrine con..
the reduction of taxes, and of every other burden which pressed trary to that now maintained was laid down. A new law was
heavily on the farmer. The system of tithes and poor-laws now promulgated.
should undergo revision and correction. . Mr. PEEL again justified the opening of the letters.
Mr. JAMES wished to know if the Right Hon. Gertle.maa
-Mr. ELLICE did not rise with a view to detain the House
at that time with many observations, but he could not sit still also meant to justify jailors in breaking open letters directed by
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and hear observations brought forward by the Hon. Gentleman,embets of Parliament ? He had directed a letter to a per.on
in Lancaster Castle, which the jailor broke open. Tile indivi-
the Member for Sussex (Mr. Curteis),, on a subject which was
disclaimed at every Meeting that was held throughout the dual was only charged with a misdemeanour. The regulations
with respect to convicts could not apply. He cent word to the
whole country. He would undertake to say that those argu-
ailor not to break opm the env :Lep:, and the jailor replied that
ments were not contained in the instructions which the lime j
it was either right or wreng—if wrong he was accountable ;bit
Member received from his constituents. The arguments at the
Meeting held for the county of Sussex were very different from
if right, he only did what he ought to do. He wished to !.e in-
those used by the Hon. Member. At the Meeting at Sus-
formed if a jsiloe had a right thus to break open the ktt_ts of
sex, it was maintained that the only relief which could be af- Members of that House? •
forded to the agriculturists would arise from retrenchment and Mr. BROUGHAM begged to cn.,:r his• erotest against the
doctrine propounded by thelt'ght lion. Geutleman. If the F :-
strict economy, and a relaxation from the great burdens now
ten of Members of Parliament were suffered to be broken open
ported on the people. " The- Hen. Gentleman said' he sup-
ported the reveries of Mr. Webb Hall and these Other Vendee in that mannee.wheree coed floe h—where, he would ask,wher,i
men who entertained similar opinions. Yes, he (Mr. Ellice) were their privileges gone to, or to what put pose w.tre they eve r
would call them reverie% for they were nothing else—mere given thins ?—( H tar, bear) —Thee were good for Loth:zit, or
dreams and fancies. It was impossible, and indeed absurd, to they should be preserved mike. He woul.: say, and he had ',Pt
entertain the idea, that they could raise the price of corn in this the least doubt oi it, that the opening of those letters was a
breach of privilTe. He would maintain, that's latter addr.stri
country to a great extent beyond what the price was in other
countries. That, he would maintain, was impracticable. lie under cover, and directed to, or by, a Member of Pardee :lent;
was privilegel. It was po answer that this privilege was liable
except the period of the French revolutinn, at which time
prices did go higher in this country. The agriculturists of this to abuse—(Hear, hear).—lie knew not what privilege of Pzr-
country ought to receive protection beyond the farmers of other liamem was not aboard—(Hear, hear).—The privilege frees
arrest might be abused, and so Might any other ; but that was
countries ; but was it fair or prudent to aggravate the eistresses
no reasoit why they should not be preserved—(Flear).-1-le
of the country by raising the pike on the consumers ? The true
would repeat that this was a breach of privilege, and he would
and permanent remedy for the depression of the a;;riculturists,
be
was to reduce the taxes, and make the expenditure of the coun-
ready to support that opinion whenever the question carer
try less. Ile hoped he should see all speculation laid aside on before the House.
After a few words from Mr. Dawsow, the Order of the• Day
that subject. They skisuld put the grower of corn and the con-
for going into a Committee of 4upply was read, and postponed
sunder on a level with the same classes on the Continent ; and
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until then it was impossible to give proper relief to the agricul- to Friday next.
tural classes. Mr. JAM ES gave notice that, on !a-morrow week , he weelti

Mr. HUNIE said, that in every vote for money which had
passed that House last Session there was not one in which the
Hon. Member for Sussex did not cordially join. Bat having
now found out the causes of the distress, he would indeed vote
for economy. • Ile would now vote for the destruction of ware-
houses and importation of grails, and trade io general. lie (Mr.
Hume) was quite confident that every one who pretended to
understand those complicated questions of economy, would at
length fall in with the reasoning of his lion. Friend, the Mem-
ber for l'ortarlington (Mr. Ricardo). Ilia sentiments were on
record, but were misunderstood by the generality of people.—
The impressions which his lion. Friend wished to convey, were
never properly conceived. The lion. Member (Mr. Curteis)
should study well his lion. Friend's book, before he condemned
his opinions on political economy.—The Petition was then
brought ur, read, and ordered to be printed.
Sir WILLIAM GUISE presented a similar Petition from
Landowners in a part of Gloucestershire, which was also ordered
to be printed.
Sir WILLIAM CURTIS moved that there be laid on the
table Papers relating to the Surplus of the Orphans' Fund; and
also Papers relating to Cual Meters from the City Chamberlain's
Office. —Ordef ed.
Dlr. 11EATI1COTE moved for an Account of all Grain,
Wheat, and Meal, remaining warehoused up to the sth of
January, 1 g 2!. —Ordered.
Mr. MABERLEY moved for an Account of all Flax im-
ported for the last year.—Ordered. •
Mr. HUME moved for an Account of the Amount of rho
Establishment and Expense of the Vaccine Board? from Dili to
sth et January, legt2.—Ordered.
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blr. I I U Ali•:.nnived for an Account of the number of Officeta
on the Ilalf-pay Establishment in England and Irvlaud up to
the present year. lie said, that ate differed from any ut this
1110tiO118 be made last night.—Ordered.
IIUME next moved fur all) Account of all the Gentl:-
men who have been appointed to the Cavalry and infantry, with
those who reeeieed promotion, up to tatt.2. •
General ASCOIGNE wisht.d to know if all those who

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submit a Motion respecting the opening dinners addressed' no
ikwbers of PArliament.
DISMISSAL OF SIR' ROBERT WILSON.
Sir ROBERT WILSON said, that the object of
his present motion was limited to a matter col a pri-
vate nature. As far as the cause of his complaint
regarded himself or his family, however outraged
and aggrieved he was, yet he would be disposed
to pass by it in silence, and endeavour to forget the
injury equally as the insult offered him. But as the
,Public were concerned, as his grievai:ces regarded
every man in the community, he felt that he would
be guilty of a thireliction of the duty which he owed
that Public—he felt Oat he would be guilty of neg-
lecting their cause; if he submitted in silence to the
treatment which he had received. Although the task
which he had undertaken was of an arduous and dif-
ficult nature, yet he could assure the Howe, that
that was the happiest moment of his whole life, in
which he could, in the face of his accusers (who, in-
deed, were kept ptivate), and of the country, and of
; Europe, redeem that solemn pledge which he had
given his constituents, of redeeming his character
item the stain which it was attempted to fig on it.
In undertaking•that, he felt conficlept he should meet

with attention and stappott—(Hear, heal—no,
%mill not ask for iuduli.;ence; he need unt--(/
heat)—u bile he was submitting his cause t) their
Mein ; that indulgeuce was the great characti
of a Bikish House of Commons—Vicar, hezz
When he gave nouce of his motion, the &big

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