Star.
London, England, 1824-03-12 00:00:00

WELSH JUDGES.

Mr. JONES moved the second reading of the Welsh
Jurisdiction Bill.

Mr. ALLEN described the proposed measure as tri-
fling in its remedy, and most pernicious in its effects.
The defect of the existing system was, that it was 'op-
posed to the due administration of justice. The'evil of
the present-jurisdiction' arose from the extraordinary
number of the Welsh Judges, and the want of employ-:
ment for them. The greater portion of their time was
taken, up‘in performing duties as Counsel. That of itself,'
with reference to their highei- avocations, must leadto
ir-
proper connexions, and to partialities incompatible with
the pure and unsuspected administration of justice. As'
the system then stood, and•the proposed measure offered
no remedy, there existed a very great difficulty in get-
ting Special Juries on questions of real property. The
Honourable and Learned Member prbceeded at length
into •a technical statement of the different ditties that
attached to the Judges in the Principality of Wales, as
at present constituted. He should recommend that the
Courts of WeAmiuster Hall should be thrown opbn to
Wales, as it was to the people of England; and that the
decisions of the Courts of the Principality should be
open to revision. He would get rid alto«,etheref those
vagrant Courts of Chancery, which were only employed
in injunctions and discoveries, without at all leading
to any useful practical result. The Honourable and
Learned Gentleman concluded r. y *loving, as an
amendment, that the Bill be read a second time this
day six months.
Mr. JONES defended the principle of the Bill, and
contended that its provisions would be extremely advan-
tageous. He maintained that the Courts of Chancery
in Wales, instead of being an evil, were the best parts
of the local. jurisdiction. There Was not one county in
favour of the abolition.

- Sir C. COLE agreed with the principles of the Hill;
but he thought it did,not go far enough. He was de-
sirous of seeing the Judges placed in the same elevated
station they were in England,, by excluding them from
a seat in the Ho,use of Commons, in the same way Eng-
lish Judges were; and when the subject was brought
forward, he should vote that the Welsh Judges- should
not have a seat in that House—(Hear).
Mr. WYNN was anxious that the Bill should pais
through the House in a Committee.—The gallery was
cleared for a division: The numbers were—

For the second reading of the Bill
For the Amendment -

Majority in favour of the second reading —43
The Bifl was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed on Mondxy next.

• MUTINY SILL
Mr. T. COURTENAY brought up the Report on the
Mutiny Bill.—On the question that it be agreed to,
Mr. HUME said that he would postpone his obser-
vations on it till the third reading.
Mr. SYKES expressed his abhorrence of military
flogging, and hoped the time was not far distant, when
those anatomical operations upon living subjects would
cease altogether. It was quite impossible, from the be-
nevolent and humane feelings which actuatedout pre-
sent Sovereign, that the exercise of the prerogative
sought to be retained could be other than painful.--
The practice was defended on the ground of its anti-
quity. As a barbarous relic of antiquated barbarism,
lie thought it ought to be abolished. (In illustration of
his arguments against flogging, theilonourable Gen-
tleman quoted a case of which the Public are aware—
it w.(S that of a soldier 'alto died in consequence of,
being removed on a baggage waggon two or three days
'after receiving his punishment). He had heard an as-
sertion which he should be glad to learn was unfounded,
namely, that the pay of soldiers suffering contlueinent
under sentence of Courts-Martial went into the pockets
of the Officers.
Colonel. DAWKINS begged to correct the representations of the
Hon. Member for Aberden, who had statkl that the,intiabitants
of Westminster were disturbed by the cries of the soldiery while
suffering froM corporal punishment. He had inquired into the cir-
cumstances, and had found that for the last six months there had
b,:en but one instance of the infliction of corporal punishment, and
chat for the six months previous there had been no case at all which
had been vishtli by it: So much for the statement of the Hon.
MeMber (Mr. flume). But-he (Colonel Dawkins) did not wish to
court popularity, aid he would not disguise his opinion, that the
discipline of the Army could nut be kept up without it. Yet no
mi4cLiet could result from it, as his ltoy.il ilizhuess the COM•

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minder-In-Chief had fixed limitationa,to it, for the whole of
the Army felt towards'him the greatest gratitude.
Mr. HUM); said a few words, iff which las tiepted that the cre-
dit of limiting corporal punishment was 'hie to the Duke of York,
but it was properly owing to his llon.Frisnd the kkaaber for the
county of illiddlesex.
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Sir H. L NOR begged to says' few word's on what hid
.dropped from the lion; Member opposite, respecting the itoppagrs
horn the pay of the so/fliers being .irpij.c.l to ful!:i4t.*!iliners tor t)ie
Officers. Timis money ntvrr found its seuy into tit:: stock purse.
The iicinf Memb:r rni:st have received his ini.ructio:!l from some
military informer, veko 1... t. furt:ished him ..with f "l=efn.ozis. He
despiied, for 'himself, the c;i::rse. ;:le subj,ct• of puni,nintnt,
be alrnitted the annoyance to as OF.ker of wireesii:N jt, but until
some.substitute was cliscover4ll on the other si..!c, itc Couldrtutcca-
sent, particularly on seTske, to ri.4k the tlisci;)iine *.*:' a re-4nitAnt by
abincluning it. might on a future night oiler some observations
iu iupport of the system.
Mr. J. S ['ill recommended the ex-maple of the French army
to the coa,illeration of the !louse. In defence of li.s lion. Prieu.t
be should state, that he had heard the inhabit:4ms of theneigh.bow-
hood of Charing-cross were awakened every mornin by the beat-
big of drums, preparatory to the infliction of the punishment of
ii..g;ing on soldiers. .•

II A RDING F.—it s.) happens, that the rereill,,i is not
beaten in thy liarraLk at all—( Loud laughter). •
Air. ill VET said, it did happen to him last year to have re-
ceived the same information as the Hun. Member lit& Aberdeen,
and from thiksame person.
• Colonel TUgNSHEND said,, that for six months the reveille
had not been aten.
Mr. It. MARTIN said, that as he had been accused of incon-
sistency en thts4ubject, he wished to explain the cause of the vote
he. then meant to. give. Had corporal punishment been is preva-
lent ai it was forrnerly,he should have voted against it, but it was
now of very rare occurrence.
Lord I'ALMEItSTON said, that in this instance the latgiisit•
' tore had assigned the sole command and government of the Army
to the Crown. The pteventive disciplioe was always the best ;end
one test.of the egeellency of a Regiment's discipline, is the unfre-
quency of such a punishment. .
Mr. 1101111017 SE explained, that on a former night he had not
complained of the beating of the rev( flies, but the people of West-
minster were induced to believe that it was adopted in order to
drown the noise that arose &tar* the cries of the soldiers.
. Sir A. HOI'E observed, that military hugging was necessary to
maintain the discipline of the Army.—lteport read and.agreed.to.
The amended Insolvent Debtors Bill was read a second time.—
Ordered to be committed on Tuesday next.
The Report of the Silk Customs Duties 13111 was brought vp and
agreed to.—The House adjourned at Ilms-eavr Twzi.ve. .

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The following is the official copy of Mr. Husk isson's Resolutions,
proposed in the Committee on Monday:
1. That from and after the 25th day of March, 1824, the seve;al
duties and drawbacks on the importation and exportation of the se-
veral sorts of Silk hereinafter mentioned shall cease and determine ;
and also, that from and after the sth day of July, 1826, the prohi-
bitions on the importation of Silk manufactures shall cease and de-
termine, and that the following duties shall be paid in lieu thereof :
that is to say,

On Silk, from and after the 25th day of March, 1824,
viz. on raw, or knobs, or husks of Silk, or waste of

£0 0 5
0 7 6

Floss Silk, the lb.
On Thrown Silk, not dyed, the lb.
On manufactured Silk, fruit and after the sth day of
1826, for every 1001. of the value thereof 30 0 CI
2. That from and after the sth day of April, 1824, the bounties
on the exportation of Silk manufactures shall °ease and determine ;
sale and except on any of such matt' factures as shall have beep duly
shipped for exportation, or shall have beep warehoused for that pur-
post on er before the said sth day of April, 1824.
3. That upon all Silk imported, upon which the duties shall hare
been paid, and which shall be warehuuscd on or Ifefore., and re-
main warehoused until after the 25th day of March, 1824, the:e
shall lie granted the following allowances, viz.
On raw Silk, imported from any part except the llritlsh
territories in the East Inuits, the lb.
On Silk thrown from raw Silk, so impbrted, the lb.
On raw Silk imported from the British territories in the
East Indies, the lb. - • - 0 3 9

X 0 5 3
" 0 5 1G

On_Silk thrown from raw Silk, so imparted, the lb. 0 4 1i
On foreign thrown Silk imported, not dyed, the lb. 0 . 7 2
4. '!'hat from and after the Sth day of July, 1824, the duties .on
tire importation, and the prohibitions on the exportation of Sfluip
or Lambs' Wool hall cease and determine ; and that ou-the
imports-
iston of any Sheep or Lambs' Wool, nor being the produce of any
.British importation, imported directly front thence, and also on the
expos taticni of any Sheep or Lambs' Wool, there shall be charged •
duty of Id. the lb.
S. That the duties on Coals, Cuim, and Cinders, brought coast-
wise from any port or place into the port of London, or by inland
navigatiOri to certain places hi the counties uf Middlesex and Hert-
ford, shall cease and determine, and that the following duties shall
be paid in lieu thereof; that is to say,
Cools, Cuim, and Cinders, except Charcoal made of
Wood, in case they are such as are most usually sold •
by weight, the ton - • - - £0 4 0
In case they are such as are most usually sold by mea-
sure, the chaldron, Winchester measure
.. •
Brought by the Grand Junction or Paddini.toi C.
nearer to London than the stone or post at or near the
' North-east point of Grove-park, or brought down the
River Thames nearer to London than the City stone
" placed on the West side of Staines-bridge, in the
county of Middlesex, the ton
6. That one-tenth part of the bounties now payable on the ex-
portation of Linens shall, on the sth July, 1324, cram: and deter-
mine ; and that one other tenth part of the said bounties now pay-
able shall, on the sth day of July in every succeeding year, also
cease and determine.

Q 6 0

X 0 1 0

According to the accounts presented to the House of
Comtnonsohe average amount of lial t:;ces of pti4c
money in the hands of the Bank, du? up, the last year,
was £5,526,635. The profit of the Bank (ai.three per
cent. the rate which the Government pays theril for
their capital'Of fifteen minims) is there Tote upwards of
£165,799 in its capacity of banker to the rablic depait-
ments. The sum payable to the 13ank for the manage-,
ment of the public debt last year; is £267,934. 7s: Bd.
JURIES or TIM 110M6 CIRCUIT.—A statement of the
number of persons in the Home Circuit liable to serve
on Juries, so far as the same can he made ant from the
Sheriff; boas Essex, 2850 ; lit rtford, 1557 ; !tent,
4040; Surrey, about 5500; Sussex, 2886.
MINING COMPANIES.—A second Mining Company
has been formed, to be called " The Hibernian
Company." A petition has been lodged Ir t eir incor-
poration; their capital to consist of 500,0001. of which
350,0001. has been subscribed in England—thes re-
mainder in Ireland.

SUCCESS AT HAZARD AND Co.'s—Roth the Twenty
Thousand Pound Prizes drawn the First Day of the
present Lottery,
.were Sold in Shares by HAZARD and
Co. and their Agents. The Second Day of Drawing
will be Next WEDNESDAY, when two mote Twenty
Thousands will be drawn in the Fir,t Five Minutes ;
the wheel contains live Prizes of Twenty Thousand,
and many other Carit.ds. Tickets and Shares ale
,Selling by HAZARD and Co. at their old.?stablished and
Fin Innate Offices, lteyal Exchange. Gate, 26, Cornbal,
and OAfor‘Wi eat, end of Regent•street, and by
their A;.;ents in all the principal Country Towns.

CAPT. VA I lt1:1 ELD'S ATC II AGAINST SIR. G. WEST.
This match hcd excited much interest, and the start took place
on Wednesday mornin; after the chick had struck twelve. It was
for three hundred *sovereigns, Mr. West taking the road-through
Slouch, Maidenhead, &c. and his adversary travelling the forest-
road through Wokiivham, &c. accounted three miles the nearest.
The longest distance is miles, and betting W.:, six to four that Hie
winner performed it in sigliteen houri. Mr. West touched Oil one
of the 'swishes of Heading at eleven o'clock ye.lterday morning, and
his adversary had compkted ins task in a spi..rterof an hour's less
time, and was on his return by his road, turning Off a mile front
Reading. as Mr. West approached in sight.
,Captain Fairfielci was
beat t Wont on his return, when Mr. West was at the Magpies,
I loutWow.heath, (resit and well, and was winning the match without
any trouble. He reached London before six o'clock in the evening.

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