Star.
London, England, 1802-05-04 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

A pew Writ was ordered for Newark in the room of Mr.
MANNERS SUTTON, who has accepted the °See of his Ma.
jefty's Sac itor-GeneraL
Mr. LVSHINOTON reported from the Committee appointed
to examine the Rate of the Laves refpcding the Fah Trade, and
obtained leave to bring in a Bill to regulate the Fiat Trade of
Londun and Weitminfter.

General GA scot nIN a brought in a BM for building anew Ex-
change in Liverpool Read a &ft, and ordered to be read a
fecond time tomorrow.

The Ira Linen Bill was ordered to be printed.
The StCR t at WAR brought in a Bill for coifing, fee.
the Militia in Scotiand.—.ltead a firft time, and after Tome con-
verfatlatt between the Secretary at War, and Mr. Wm. Dundsi,
it was ordered to be read a fecond time to-marrow.

The Hoak having rdulved iaelf into a Committee on the
kith Sugar Drawback Bill, refolved to continue the Paid Aft for
• time to be limited.

Mr. Cour brought in a Bill for the further encouragement
of frith Mariners.—Read a fiat, and ordered to bead a fecoud
time tomorrow.

Mr. ALZIANDER brought up the Report of the Committee
of Ways and Means relative to the miking provifiona for their
Royal Highneffes the Dukes of Sego( and Cambridge, which
were read and agreed to, and Bills ordered. The Bills were
brought in, read a fult, and ordered to be read a fccond time
to-morrow.

An Itcount wu prefcntcd of the diftribution of the fum grant-
ed for the Army Extraordlnaries for Ireland for the year Igor.
Ordered to lie on the table. This and the other papers on the
table relative to Ireland were ordered to be printed.
The Eledlion Treating Bill was read a fecund time, aad com-
mitted for to-morrow.

The Sugar Drawback Bill was read a third time •nd paffed.
The Committees of Supply and of Ways and Means were
poftponed till Wednefday. ,

DEFINITIVE TREATY.
Mr. WINDHAM rote in purfuance of the notice
which he gave laft Thurfday, to Rate the grounds
of his promifed motion, for taking into the confider-
ation of the Houfe the Definitive Treaty of Peace,
and to fix the day for difcuffion. He addreffed the
Houfe to the following effect Sir, in the (late-
ments which I am this day to fubmit to Gentlemen, 1
than call their attention to the grounds on which I
propofe to bring forward certain Refolutions re-
fpeCting the Treaty concluded at Amiens, and
name as early a day as pable for the difcuffion
of thole Refolutions. It may, indeed, be urged,
that his Majefty's Minifiers have not thought pro-
per to propoft the fubjeft for the inveftigation of
Parliament, upon the principle that the Treaty
has been fanCtioned by the fenfe of the Houle ;
and that others, altuated by the fame feeling, have
alfo declined the talk, If his hiajefty's Miaitters

have really conformed to this mode from the mo-
tives to which I have alluded, and feel themfelves
juftifled by cullom, I can only fay that it is a car-
tom more honoured in the breach than the abler-
vance. For my own part, Sir, I cannot agree
that the Houfe is bound, in this cafe, by any opi-
nion, fince the difcordance between the Prelimi-
nary and Definitive Treaty is filch as to prevent the
poffibility of a certain or decifive opinion on the
fubjee.- In my way of thinking, the quellion of
the Definitive Treaty is, notwithaanding every
Teeming °Made to the contrary, completely open
for enquiry, and there may, if that enquiry do take
place, appear
.good grounds for entertaining a very
different opinion of its merits from that which is
underflood to have already pallid. I earneftly with
to give to my Noble Friend ( Lord Hawkefbury ) an
opportunity of canvaffing the fubjee in all its bear-
ings and relations, and to his Majefly's Minifters
the means of entering into a full and connected vin-
Alication of their conduit. Ti. the remarks which I
have to make this day, I confider myfelf, ;wait
andantlis, in the fituation of a Counfel making an
opening fpeech,and though I null touch but flightly
upon the chief points, I fhall referve.to myferf the
power of entering more deeply and more at large
into them,when the different papers and documents
neceffary for their illuflration shall be laid upon your
table. After this general proteft I [hall proceed to
execute the ()Nee of my motion, by calling-the at-
tention of the Houle to the four following heads,
under which the g, eat qiieftion of Peace,in all its re-
lations, may be -fairly comprehended : —The firft,
Sir, are thole points which, though existing at'the
time of the figning of the Preliminary Treaty,
were not known ; the fecond are thole which have
fince happened; the third, thofe conftituting the
difference between the Preliminary and Definitive
Treaty ; and laftly, thole points in a commercial
view, omitted in the Definitive Treaty, which ex-
Mid in all former Treaties. Under the firtt head
there are three confederations which naturally pre-
fent themfelves ft, the ceffion of the Ifland of
Elba—xd, the boundary of French Guiana—and
, 3d, the ceffion of Louifiana. As the ceffion of
' Elba will hereafter become the fubjeft of minute
difcuffion, I [hall touch upon it very lightly. It
is impoffible that there can be any material dif-
ference of fentiment with refpee to the import-
ance of the ifland. It contains at once an advan-
tagenus Ration, an excellent harbour, and an im-
pregnable fortrefs. I leave the Houfe to judge
whether, with fuch advantages, there can exift a
doubt of the importance of-Elba. Perhaps it is
funk in the immenfity of the furrounding objeas;
for otherwife we cannot well account for the in-
difference with which the ceffion has been viewed.
With this extraordinary event the Houfe is al-
ready acquainted; yet inch is the complicationin
which it is wrapped up, fuch are the folds end
doubles of chicanery in which it is involved, that
it may be rather difficult to make it obvious to all
perfons. It was by the Treaty of Luneville ex-
prefsly ftipulated that Elba Ihould be attached to
the Duchy of Tufcany ; but then comes in a cu-
rious expedient of the French Government—A
fingular transformation, fuch as a fkilful Alge-
braift can work to get rid of one quantity in order
to change the whole. The French transform the
country to which it was to have been attached as
if they were playing aechefs; and what was before
a Poll or Knight is now a Ring—and then it comes
out that this Hand has fallen Into their own hands.
Will any one fay that fuch an impnfition, fuch a
trick, was not of fufficient confequence to make
the Preliminary Treaty a cubic& of re-confidera-
tion ? With refpee, Sir, to the fecond event which
exifted on the figning of the Preliminary Treaty,
and was not known ; I mean the boundaries of
French Guiana—it is one which I mull treat as a
fubjee of grcat magnitude. When the Prelimi-
naries were figned, it was perfectly underftood
that thefe territories were to continue as they were-
then known to exift, and the meafure was confi-
dered as a f did public ae. I cannot underftand
why the French (hould, in the extenfion of the
boundaries, make that wanton excurfion in order
to give them up again. His Majefty's Minifters
take credit for the new limits which have been af-
figned to the territories of the Republic in that
quarter ; but the queftion is, whether thefe limits
are proper and juftifiable ? The queltion is not
whether many leagues, of defart have been given
up, but whether the new boundaries command as
fully as formerly the river Amazon ? which I con-
tend they certainly do. As Peace has been called
with refped to France only, the change of one
War for another, fo this alteration of boundaries
may be termed the exchange of one fraud for
another. Now, Sir, the next confideration that
offers itfelf, for we rife in a climax, is the ceffion
of Louifiana, a meafure, the dreadful confcquen-
ces of which it is impoffible to calculate, from
giving to France a footing on the new continent.
I.le confequences likely to refult to Florida, to
North America, and to South America, from that
eftablithment, it is impoffible to embrace within
the fcope of human imagination. It was putting
a ferpent to bed with them. The influence thus
given to France is itnmenfe, and pretexts for quar-
relling will ever be found eafy. Having briefly
Rated thefe points which, though existing at the
time of the Preliminary Treaty, were not known
in this Houfe, I may fecurely afk, is there one of
them which would not call for a feparate dilcuffion,
and even a complete revifion of the Treaty itfelf ?
1 next come, Sir, to thofe pointiwhich have fince
happened, and .Ite catalogue will not be found
incurious : —There are two things in particular
which hold an eminent frank in (the lifter-the
creation of the Italian Republic, and what is not '
fo important, the difpatching of a French Fleet
mAtd Amy to the Weft-Indies, The creation of s