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produced great consternation; theinhabitagts thought
themselvts handed over to be slicked, and the mea-
sure was likely to introduce a dreadful state of sp.
catty.
Such was Ole nature of this person's proceed-
ings, that none of the other Tax-gatherers wire likely
to stand it ; and he understood that the 4urveyor-Ge-
neral had aiready resigned. It was universally be,
sieved at Liverpool, that this new Inspector was an
old client of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, and
one of his early friends when at the bar.
Mr. ROSY, sa'sel, he was not at all prepared to an-
swer the Honourable Gentleman who spoke last upon
the topics he had introduced into his speech, but he
was well aware that the trade of Liverpool had of
ke fallen much short of what it had been in former
years ' • but the result of his inquiry was that Liver-
pool had not sustained more injury than might have
been expected, from the situation in which the ccun-
try is at present pieced. He was aware that the per-
sons who received charity in the town of Liverpool
were very considerable, but he also knew that a great
part of them were not natives, nor had regular set-
dements in the place.
General TA RLETON stated, that it was not his
wish to bring the present subject forward, but his
Constituents must have looked at hint with consider-
able jealousy had he declined to do it at their request.
He held in his hand a document, signed by a Mem-
ber of the CoMmittee appointed for bettering the si-
tuation of the Pour in Liverpool, from which it ap-
peared that great numbers of Welsh and Irish were
encouraged to go there for employment, Out from the
present suspension of trade they were compelled to
resort to charitable relief.
General GASCOYNE said, that both sides of the
question might be considerably exaggerated but
every person must know, that since the trade of this
country with America was cot of, Liverpool, which
enjoyed three-fourths of it, must sustain considerable
injury, and the people consequent distress.
Mr. ALEXANDER BARING said there could
be no doubt of the people of Liverpool enduring
many hardships, occasioned by the policy of those
who at present unfortunately governed the country.
It was ridiculous to talk of the general prosperity of
the country, when it was evident many parts of it
were materially injured. Our shipping was now al-
most unemployed ; and the only remedy which Mi-
nisters provided was the establishment of an unpro-
fitable trade with the enemy. By this new trade we
were to import French lawns, jetiellery, and other
rticles, to any amourit ; in return for which we were
permitted to export British goods to the value only
ut £5 per ton.
Mr. ROSE sated, that he could not say what the
present demand for shipping was; but when he last
inquired rev) it merchant-ships were engaged at 235.
per tun, instead of. jt4s. for which the Transport
Board eirga„oed them three years ago. if the 1-lon.
Gentleman, however, made any specific motion upon
the subject, he would be glad to meet him, and call
fir the proper documents to put the matter beyond
a doubt.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER I.
said an tionourable Getrleman had made an accusa- •
Lion against hitn, which made a considerable impres-
sion on his feelings, as injurious to his character.—
Ile had been charged with entering into a disgrace-
ful contract with an oh! client, by giving hivn a situ-
atimi, on condition that he would slit chatgc his neigh-1
hours in collecting the takes. Whether the party
had ever beed a client of his he could not pretend to
say ; but of this he was certain, that he dtd not re-
member him, nor ever enter into any contract of the,
kind with any person. He remembered one person •
wno had been a Collector of Taxes in Liverpool, but
when Government canted upon him to account fur
the deficiency in his accounts, he thought proper to
tender his res guano!), and to that discarded servant •
he believed the Honourable Genleman to be indebt-
ed for his information. As to what an Honourable
Gentleman had stated of our suppased trade with
France, he saw no necessity for sa)ing any thing up- '
on the subject.
Mr. CREEVY, in explanation, said that he had
no information horn the discarded servant alluded
to by the Right Hon. Gentleman ; but he was infor-
med by a Magistrate of LiveiPOol, that an Attorney I
of that town had suggested a project to Government
of increasing the taxes, and that consequently he w.r. '
indebted to the Right Hon. Gentlemanlor ins sub-:
sequent appointment.

Committee should be postponed till this day month.
He said be had no objection to a suitable establish-
ment being formed fur the Princesses, but he conceiv-
ed that existing circumstances demanded that there
should be some inquiry as to the fund from which the
txpences attendant on it were to be defrayed ; there
was already a deficit of the Consqlidated Fund of
upwards of three millions, anti the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman had not as yet settled how he was to meet this
defalcation, whether by a reduction of the interest
receivable by the public creditors cr by what other
means. It should be recollected when so large a sum
as thirty thousand pounds, or whatever the projec.ed
provisien for the Plincessel amounted to, was to be
taken from the Cons lidated Fund, that that Fund
had bean recently chat get: M ith the peymentof seventy
thousand pounds to the Prince Regent, wi:o was also
to retain £60,000, charged on it at a former period,
making, united, the sum of ,e 130,000. Being of opi-
nien that an inquiry on this I.ead WAS necessary pre.
vious to the House going into a Committee, he would
move, that the House du resolve it.telf into a Com-
mittee for the purpose in question on this day month.
Mr. ROSE said, that it had been proeideJ, in order
to the better seeming to the stockholder his interest,
that in any unfortunete defalcation of the Consolidat-
ed Fund, recourse should be had to the supplies for
the service of the year,

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEOUER 1 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
repeated, that the subject was entittly new to lion, said, that the statement of the Honourable I,entle.
and therefore he was not piepared ta., say any thing ' man was calculated to produce a very erroneous im-
-moraupon it. I prvssion on the House. There was no deficit of the
' The Petition was then read, and ordered to lie on : Consolidated Fund, as he had stated, but, on the con-
.tlie table. I trary, a surplus of twelve hundred and sixty-nine
Mr. BAR ING said he conceived the Petition to thousand pounds. He had fallen into error in conse-
rnl.tte to the general state of our foreign trade, or be quence of his taking the surplus of the Consolidated
Fund and adding it to the surplus of the war taxes of
.:
should not have inttoduced the subject of our impor-
the year. With respect to the allowance to his
Ling the manufacture of France. tiuding, however,
that the Petition was for CRoyal Highness the Prince Regent, it had undergoneie abolition of the present '
1 sufficient discussion while the Household 13111 was.
monopoly of the East-India Company, he ssi,hed to
be informed whether the Right Hon. Gentleman had ' passing through the House, then was ample employ-
it in contemplation to renew their Charter? i ment for it. He had to observe, that exclusive of the
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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER allowance to the P-: of W - which

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raid, that alter the recess he should submit a propo-
sition upon the subject for the consideration of the
House.

_'rincess i ales, Wk, , was
£17"0, that sum, not as was supposed, including
£3OOO for pin money. His Royal Highness had
pai I her debts to the amount of &HMO. The re-
SECOND LIVERPOOL PETITION. 1 venue, moreover, adverted to was now in the It aids
General TA RLE TON brought up a Petition from of Commissioners for the purpose of liquidating =-
the Mayor and Corporation 01 Liverpool, to the same. fain demands on his Royal Highness.
effect as the former, which was ordered to lie upon' Mi. WHITBREAD contended, that there would
the table, and be read. he much greater propriety in a grant to her Royal
coLLEOE OP MATNOOTH. . Highness tile Princess of Wales than in many of those
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, he would move for ! which hid been recently made from the Civil List.
documents, to prove, that a Right Honour:AL: Gen-
He animadverted,on the absurdity of holding ttn-th
Haman opposite had asserted, that persons connected :that the Prince Regent paid her debts, %%ben he yeas
with the College of Maynooth in Ireland had adop. , obliged to come to Parliament for means to pay his
ted undue means tq make proselytes in the northern . own. He agreed with his Honourable Flictid as to
part of that country. i the necessity of going into an inquiry, with respect
Mr. Secretary RYDER said, he had never made . to the Funds which were to be burdened with the
an assertion to that effect ; that he had indeed, in a ' provision for the Princesses, previous to a Committee,
late discussion with respect to a new grunt for the and he should vote Accordingly.
College of Maynooth, lamented that the seminary had Mr. CREEVEY'S amendment was then put, and
ever been endowed, inasmuch as it affoeiked facilities negatived with Out a division.
for making converts in the more partiitilarly protes- The House hiving then resolved itself into a
cant connties in Ireland. • • ; Committee,
Sir JOHN NEWPORT then expresses his rea- The CA.NCELLCIR of the EXCHEQUER
dines., to mike the asserti.ai of tile Right HOnourable said, the House was aware of hoW the Princesses
Gentlt man, as re-stated by bimtelf,the ground of his stood now, with respect to Parliamentary grants.
motion, and was proceeding in it accordingly ; but By a former arrangement, a sum of 430,0U0 had
neon tie interference of the SPEAKER on a point been allotted f'r their establishment, on the 'de-
of order, satisfied himself with giving notice of it tut' mite of his Majesty, which was to remain undimi.
t t., -MOM yf. - • • , aisbed in the event of any of then] dying, so long

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ROYAL CANAL IN IMAM% - I U any of their respective shares fell s}
on .ort a t
Some conversation took place between Me. D. thousand pounds ; and ip the event of eee •
starve et
GiuDY and Mr. W. Poen, with respect to whet had 1 oaly being left, she was to have twelve
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reland; chiefly as 110 use was the virtual demee of his Majesty, 04 t
passed pn a former occasion in the House, relative to t The
~_ basis of the proposal new submitted
to
the
the state of inland navigation in I
to the above brfinch of it. it terminated in Mr. i the four Princesses now living it was designed to gibe°
Poet's assuring the Honourable Gentleman, that be I te9,000 rer annum each, which would make the
the :SLOW which they new 11.;
~g-would
would be ready to impart every eatisfeetery informae, gregate of et'efe,ouo,
tion after the holidays, from the Civil List, and which was held at ple.e. '
COLON EL &PM A PfON*s A PPCINTMEN T. not included. The it 36,000 were to be granted %re'
Mr. WARD desired to know from the Right Ho. a principle of survivorship s'milar to that of the for:
noutable Gentleman opnosite;what were the nature p mer grant ; that was, the Princesses were to have the
of the employment recently conferred on Colonel whole sum among them till it amounted to comb
now proposed, he conceived, would meet the *pew!
M'Mahnn ? What were the duties connected with each, and the ulttrnAte survivor was to have, is et
he left neceee
it, and what the salaryeend from what fund paid ? the former. case, tEl2,eelo. Whatever addieon Ira
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.
said, that the salary would be the same as was en, bation of the House. There was at present ne tiros
joycd by a former occupant cf the office, Colonel bability that their Royal Highnesses would quit tee
Taylor ; and asylum in which they had hitherto remained; bud
out of
Mr. WARD pressing-his question with respect to considering the period of life they had reached, ik
would be improper that they should the duties of the office,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rily connected with a family which it might pessible
said, that he conceived the name of the office, Psi- be their inclieatinn to leave, or, at least, be absent'
vete Secretary to his Majesty, ought to sufficiently from it for a time, whatever might be the m"outoet.i.
explain its deties. their absence. Ile would proceed to move a reeilu.,
Mr. WHITBREAD asked, whether there had 1 tion, " That a sum not exceeding ASo,(100 be gram.
been any such office in existence previous to the ie.! ed to his Royal Highness the Prince Regele,
the allowanee
firmity of his Majesty ? and being answered in the 1 the Consolidated Fund, including the 44000 grant.
ed on a former occasion, in order to form a proviliost.
negative, he asked further, whether the office, when 1
held by Colonel Taylor, was considered as one of i for their Ru) al Highnesies the Plincesses, e
State, and front what fund the salary was paid ? 1 Elizabeth, Mary, and Sophia."
he would not,
The CHA \CELLO Kof the EXCHEQUER 1 Mr. TIERN EY said, that including
accounted fur the continuance of the office, as an 1 from the Civil List, the Princesses would have cac't
office of State in the person of Colonel M'Mahon, by an income of 113,000 per annum ;
stating, that the increased business of the Crown was however, contend, that it wai too much, but if thee
such as rendered it indispensable. lived together, and with his Royal Flightless, and Le
Mr. WARD—Who advised the appointment ? , did • not see why they should not do so, considering
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER the affection which he had elways showed for theni,
said, in reply /43 the foregoing question, that no par. it would' foun a splendid establishment. He hail ito
ticular advice had been given. objection to its thing splendid, but he had every ob.
Mr. WYNNE said, it would be a proper subject jection to the manner in which it u4s provided for,
for the consideration of the House, whether Mem- He contended, that we were providing for it in such
hers accepting of any office which was not strictly a manner that we did not know what we were tloing,
defined to be of a private nature, should net vacate He would read from a paper he had in his hand, a
their seats ; and likewise, whether persons could re- statement of the Civil List revenue and the allow.
Limn their seats, holding certain offices under the ances to the Royal Family. They were as follows:
Prince Regent, which they had held when he was - The Civil List, as in i 801 eveepre
merely Prince of Wales. To which might be added the amount oft ,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER charges deducted from it 13.,,0N).
The adsiition of the present Session 124,0%
declined deliveting his opinion on this subject, as it Allowance to the Royal Fany'y
was nut befine the House. '1 he • nay of Lancaster. IOBXO
Pornwall (say) .. ..... ... l SAM
PRO VISION FOR. TILE PRINCESSES.
The Vote' of this Sesbion to the Rrgent VIA%
On the Order of the Day being read for a Com- the mme turn granted to pay otf intuutbramm . 'two
mittee of the whole House. to take into consideration Tie 43 per Cents.
the Message of his Roy.il Highness the Prince Regent, Aui the vote now 1)144)4)3*d . , 36,1A9
respecting a provision fur their Royal Highnesses the Makin alt —,
Princesses,g ogether nu leas a sum than ....AI oes,uoci
He could not but think that nuliament cauli be
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Mr. CIeEEVEY asked, if the Message related to
much too hasty in making the proposed grant, if they
money, and if ea, whether the present method of pro-
ceeding was regular ? did not first make some inquiry into the appropriei
The SPEAKER referred the Hon. Member to tion of the Civil List ; nor could he lose the upper.
the Order of the House for a Committee. tunity of again cautioning' Parliament against the;
adding, “ piecemeal" to that List. There WAS ance
Mr. CREEVEY then expressed a wish that the
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they —aims which he could not but make. He
did not understand why the Princess ti Wales tra4
not considdred as such ; and, consequently, as the
consort of the Printe Regent, why she was not, in
tact, the Queen ? It was true, he had heard sense
whispers about separation, but they were not to re!
gird whispers—that House knew nothing *twit!
paration. The question still reverted, why did not
the Princess of Wales act as the wile of the Priide
Regent ? Al'hy were there no drawing-I.oms ? Why
did not the country behold that splendour which in•
variably attended the consort of the reigning Prince!
Whispers certainly assigned some cause tor the*
events ; and vet y possibly on gi.od grounds; but the
House had no information on the subject. The Right
Hohourable Gentleman oppi site (the Chancellor d
the Exchequer) possibly might condescend to give
some information on this interesting tact ; for be Imo
a good deal on the subject.—( Near, hear, hear.) Hit
thet to he had continued silent on these circumstances;
and he could not but say, that Le very much disliked
the sulky, sullen silence, that had been observed by.
that Right j-lonourable Member. When such whis•
pers were abroad--when. our Court was destitute el
all the splendour which it *would have by the rano
of a Queen—when such things wete the proteins
features of the times, he thought it was too much fot
the loudest champion the Priacess had, even to re•
main in silence.—( Ilear, tear .') She vas the wire

of the Prince Regent, but somehow or other she bui
been most unaccountably passed by. Whether such
conduct was just, he could not say..; but it certain',
was very hard, behaviour towards the Public. H.
should not give any objection to the motion, drik,
he could not but lament that it was brought lONA
with so little consideration.
Mr. W. SMITH still retained the •opinitnnidd
the giants to the Royal kamly, thereby kleir
the Civil List most enormously, were toe .
gant, considering the state of Sur country andel.
ttnances. As to tl.e splendour of the Royal hap
j
he was not of opinion that the most ~ thinking"
plc of EnKland set so high a value on it as the

.onourable Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) was
to belitve. Political freedom and 'civil 'iambi:
more charms for them : they wishedfor sillsoow
advantages,
not splendid trifles. The Homo*
Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) had said, that the Priolod
of Wales ought to act as Queen. He :bound Dot.
ter on that question, though Le could lax but up
that it was very hard upon the public to hoe 10,
Queens, in point of fact, without having theta°
splendour and consequence of our Court. the '''''
ject ought to be postponed.
Mr. PONSONBY should be compelled to la
against the proposition, unless some Additional tub
oration was given to them. He lamented tbel.
plczity of the Chancellor of the Exchequees ist._.
meut ; but the present proceeding went not co*
increase the annuity that would tall so the Piinistl'
at the demist of the King, but to anticipate ii•
....,u1
the ground of its being an anticipatiun of Vie SLOW
had been appropriated by Parliaolent, he sho
ject to the proceeding. Besides, An additioa . •
been made tc the Queen cf./EWA:OO, torment
expences, but %here had they beheld Apy
CZ II 4 expense ?' Now to be sure, the Prawnset
to have a separate maintenance, then whereon!'
occasion for an increase to the Queen '9 the
that'she would be put to extra expenses by brig
daughters to live with her? Thus Ministen
sarily increased one grant, and were about War
pate smaller. it the boons should aline to Or

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