Star.
London, England, 1801-06-06 00:00:00

pence of the Government was eontidered. 4.1 e,
moved an Addrefs to his Majefty, praying that
his Majeßy would be graciotifly pleafed to give di..
regions, "that there Should be laid before the
Houle an Account of the Amount tithe Pensions
charged upon the Civil Elliblithrntr.t of Scotland,
Specifying the time when grantech ancLthe peffort;
to whom paid. Alfo, an Account of all &Willing
Pennons which have been' granted Etilie Crown
from the ift of Jan. T/80, to the sth of June, 1800,
during .pleafure or otherwife, and payable at the
Treafury or elfewhere. Alfo, asslticcount of the
Places for life or lives, whether held by patent or
otherwife, which have been created during the
fame period; with an Account of the Fees and'
Salary attached to each ; alfo of fuch Places as
ate held in reversion."—Mr. Robton Rated thefe
motions to be preparatory to a motion which he
meant to fubnsit to the Houfc.
A conversation took place between Mr. W. DUN-
IDAS, the SPIAR Ea, the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
seneoyee, Mr. 'nuttier, and Mr.' Jones, as to
.the wording of the•motions, and the motions being
'attended, were agreed to.
itrasNlNtrt iti,L.
The Arroamer Genteat moved the Order of
rhe.Day for the Houle to go into a ConttllitieK on'
the Habeas Corpus Indemnity Bill.
Sir Faancis BURDETT rote and prefentetrat Pt-
iition from Jafper Moore againft the Bill. lies.
Petition was read by the Clerk. It Rated-at •
.. That the Paltiater had been three years in conialkeet‘
ander the fulpadon of the Habeas Corpus Ads ; duringwhat,
be had experienced the mat (mac treatment, perocularty frost
the Jailor of Cold Bath Fields Ptifon ; that be hellbent
in April, 1798, and immediate% after committal to a damp
tone cell in Cold Bath Fields,W eie he remained &rag hairi
without being Owed any fuftenance, evin water being dethod
him; that di the gth day after his arreft he was taken befol'e
the Privy Ciao& mid etamined. He anfwered every tr#
taco, and ardently Gildtid an Immediate trial, which was rt-
fukd, and he Was eteratitted to Newpre, where beaus locked
up in a tote cell eine feet by Is in dimadlons, bang only paw
ratted to walk out in the yard fora fey. hours In the day; bet
In every other refped Pedtlaser was ready to admit the banana
cadet% of Mr. Kirby, *ha& enlidners he contrafted with the
behaviour of Mr. Arta That be had been removed to Ipfwkh
Jail, where at the outlet he had been Lilo harfhly dealt with,
but hid Bawd* VMS ameliorated by the interference of sis Inv
lbelbilagliasfasetss That he was brought to Llistlen:Let
tit of Mareh loft, and liberated by Mr. Pord, Ida m
him with Isl. for his wife and children. That ha Iresansilted
again an the zath of April lift, and releafed steer Babe data
confinement. It concluded with Rating that the Petitioner's
health was fo much injured by long confinement, and fuck as
odium attached to his cbaradter, whith he stai antions to re.
leak from the lbgbtelt imputation, a trialtefore a jury, teat
be was entirely dlfabkd Pan ler Ids Wife end kW
frrall children, who mat haveitetagetee al
He therefore entreated rekaffhins she Eleismeifllfaie, and-
prayed them not to pia Illionklikift to d- his pleb
kmturs "—Tbe Petition was ordered.* Is an she Tibia.
• Petitions of a finialr nature, which Rated a
gravating cirundtances, were prefented from John.
Roberts, Peter Belfham, Thomas Evans, and
John Heron, were prefented by Sir F. Buttner,
which were read, and ordered to lie on the table;
as was a Petition prefented by Mr. Jearct., fro%
I\as Goodluck.
s,, the SreeßLlt'S putting the queftion for leav-
ing ch.. Chair—
Mr. jizam. raid, that upon a meafure fo extra-
ordinary
as that at relent before the Honk, he
thought fometlOns would have been raid by his
Majelly's Attorne '-Genevals and that be would
not have contented .s'arnfnif with merely moving
that the Speaker do Nave .the Chair. He was
aftoniihed to witness fue*!:%condeft front din Hub.
Gentleman, fo 'different to what he bad expeaid
from his knowledge of him. It was Inch as if
thought would lead men to infeN that the gown of
his Majeftyle Attorney-General ,?as like the pa-
toned Ihirt of Nellie, and changed tIN *sty natter'
of the-perfon who wore it. What, Ite*Andt *mat
become of that responsibility elf which t'ffey had
been fo often told, if the prefent Bill *ere to Nat
—The word ought to be blotted out of the Wirt,
tionary. What was to become of the Security we
were taught to look to for the condug of his Ma-.I
jelly's Minifters, if they and tbeir A,- were thus
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The Marquis of Surto anfwercd, that it fre-
quently happened he was totally ignoritht of any
order of the day, or of any intended fubjea for
debate, till he came down to the Houfe. For that
purpofe he had framed a motion, which he writhed
were adopted; not that he intended to propofe it.as
a motion, but he would merely read it (which his
Lordfhip did) ,it was in eaprefs terms a reiolution
for the Houfe to adopt, of giving to the Com-
mons, with a view of receiving in return the pa-
pers, votes and proceedings of both Houfes during
the fitting of Parliament.
This brought an obfervation from Lord MOIRA
as to the point of order, ar.d the Noble Marquis
dropped the fubjeet.
The motion of Lord TR VRLOW was then carried,
and the meffige accordingly ordered to be fent to
the Commons, with a communication of the fame,
after a few obfervations from the Lord Chancellor.
THE INDEMNITY DILL.
The Earl of SUFFOLI again adverting to the
petitions of John Heron, which he had prefented
and withdrawn, laid, that as he underflood the In-
demnity Bill was to be paired into a law, it was
his intention to oppore it when it came to that
Houfe.—[Here the noble Earl was called to rr
der by Lord Walfingharn, as anticipating a cub•
led when neither it or a motion was before the
Houfe.]—His Lordfhip then (aid, that it was his'
intention of fubmitting a motion for a Committee:
to enquire into the ftate of the pole of the king-
dom, particularly of the metropolis, where, he
Paid, according to the information be had received,
abufes had been committed.—All who had been
committed upon charges, or on firfpicion of being
guilty of high treafon, were, for the firft fix months
of their commitment, thrown indifcriminately into
cells with the moft infamous felons. He did not
impute even the knowledge, therefore, much lets
the ad itfelf, to his Majefly's GOvernment ; but
that bciug the cafe, an enquiry ought to be
tuted into it, before the Houfe could agree to in-
demnify perfons capable of fucli outrageous con-
duet to prifoners placed under their cufdy. His.
Lordfhip then complained of a letter, which he re-
ceived from a Magtftrate (Mr. Ford), which de-
nied certain affertions of his Lordfliip, relative to
a perfontithename of Heron, being brought be-
fore him h tailtake for John Heron, the perfon
whofe petition be had prefeuted, no fuck circum•
fiance having happened. This his Lordfhip readily
admitted, but at the fame time, be thought it ex-
traordinary, that he fhould receive a letter from
ftperfoo, however refpefthic he might be, tak;
up any fubjeft he thottght fit to mention in
lids place in that Houfe. His Leittkihip was pro-
"ding (till further on this Tulsjea, ve/en he was
i=lled to order by Lord Cathltart. His
• fat down, and
Cn•itcettoa adverted to the fetter
f Mr. Ford, whom, though he did not tale up'n,
apt to exculpate, for the aet of fending the lette?.
to the Noble Earl, yet he could nOtTorbear re:
marking, by way of appeal to the candour and to
the feelings of that Noble Earl, whether it was
not, to a certain extent, juftifiable, when his name
had been mentioned in the Petition alluded to, in
a difrefpeetful Manlier I His Lorcidzip then re-
peated fonts of thole obfervations, on the fubjea
of the Nudes, sod concluded by conjuring the
Noble )Earl to avoid difeuffintthat, which, by all
the rules and orders of the Hottfi, was wholly
irregular.
The'Eatl of Sarrota willed, that the laft pe-
tition were now upon the table, indeed he lament-
ed that he had withdrawn it. He acknowledged,
that in the firft petition which he had prefented,
the name of that iefpedable Magillrate lad been
ufed rather improperly, and be was i* hopes, un-
defervedly fo. He therefore withdrew that peti-
ticin,• but he was confident that in the fecond pe-
tition,- no Inch irrelevant matter was introduced,
neither was the name of Mr._Ford mentioned.
After a few more obfe;vations to the foregoing

effetl, and Lord Caeneaarsgain interfering upon
the, point of Order, the matter ended.
Their Lordthip* then tranfaeled Tome private
buGnefs, and adjourned to Monday next.
HOUR OF COMMONS.
An Acemmt of the diftributko of 'doomed kr the Aran
Ertraordnaarks of left year was prelims& and ordered tale on
the table.
Lord Haweeravar prefecte.d Copkost the Ckiekoodents
moved for by Mr. Luihingtoe, ttletive to tiliecatibbeeilke&
Alfo the Copy of a Letter him the Csommodar k Wonsan
ifland of Minorca to hie Perfarra Weimar/ otrS; width
were ordered to Hem the
Lord Hmvicasseav Paid that the lkitigh kilo *Mesh
"the land of Minorca, who were by the terms Hide malt.
'meet confined to Europe, having plant,/ Arad to farm In
Fry e, he Soak on Monday neat move or have to bans in a
EN to legible the acceptatke of disk brakes.
Mr. Assort gave *odes. that be kook en Monday save
far Maw to being in a NM is Imre the twat privilees/ Capy-
Agit hiked that aid esdord by Authors be Ofeaa4Andlt.
Mi. Llssassiso dot las theold,

g raid, —.deo Taddiso hot Om
the Hs to rdshe itklf htto s Canunktoa to war the
At% of Weariest VIII. which rehteg to the &Adam tithe
OM.
Tbe: Houk in a Committee ea= to a rectitude* heltande
' the ingportadow of Ton low Ireland intim* parotid of thar
The Report vies orderging be read 40 Monday..
Mr. Assort protemid a Hifi to regulate the Trbl of Cad-
kited Median hi fretted, and to &Attain the itsalibcatione
Cl Members kw that past of the United Mnodoro,—The na
was read a Mt time, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. Sadaos obtained lame to bring in a 2111 to rsiolotallg
Tends of Malta.
Mr. Vans! }relented a NU to alter the Dada 4S Sie
cogitation and tantietadon of —; which troi read a hit

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the care they 141 taken of the liberty of the rub
jed ! Surely th-'y would !tot fay, that treaCu
men charged with high treafon worle than an 7,
other felons, could be confider-A guarding the li-
berty of the cubical It WAS a fag well known,
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particularly by the Gentlemen at the Bar, that at
;.the trials at Maid(lone, whenone unfortunate. man
fa/feted (he dared tofay very juftly.), that when,
The examination taken before the PrirY Council
was called for by one of the moll able-Judges that
ewer fat on the Englifh Bench, who is now no
more,. no examination could be produced,of which.
that dillinguifhedcharader complained
With relped to the Bill, lie thought the Attorney
General, new in office'as he was, could not recon'.
vile it to himfeif to bring forward Inch a libel up.
on the Conflitution-.-a Bill which gave a legal
fandlion to fpies and informers, and brought 4:0-
lifhnien upon a level with the hibjeds of the Grand
Seignior. What man could confider himfelf fare
when informers were paid far information, ant!
could afterwards red fecurein tbe 'feceecrof hit
Majefly's Miniftersf The enormities- committed
upon the unfortunate men who had that day pe.
titioned the Houk were juftified muter the pre.
fent Bill ; and the keeper of Cold Bath kields pri-
fon fantlioned in all his ads of ettorenitY. He
could not help exprelling his furptife, Ise faid, that
the prefent Chancellor of the Exebeltier wnuld
Puffer fuch a man at Aris to remain in his fitua.
tion after all that had been produced. There was
a fort of protedion fur that 'than for which he
I could not account; but ;here was a'fytnpathy be.
tween the new and the old Mminiftrition Which
led men to fufpeft that a very good underllanding
fubfifted ; elfe a Right Honourable Gentleman
would have very little chance for the augtnenta.
tion of his income, which it was whifpered abroad
be was about to receive. The place -now propofe
red, and the one that Honourable Gentleman is
.airaady in poffelEon of, would macs Me annual in-
come from finecures amount to 0001. So much
for the Inns and the Outs. If the Houk thonght pro-
per to grant indemnity to Minifters, let them do
fo, he laid, in.Gon's name—but let them not in-
terfere with the jullice of the country. %did the
Attorney General, if he had held that Ace when
thecafe of General Warrants via! about to be tried,
think hinaklf jullified in pafnug an Ail before the
caufe came before the Jury ? He then conjured
the Houk not to adopt the prefent tneafitrel which
had no precedent hi the annals.of the hiftory of the
country.
Mr. J. H. Baow*t denied' the alrertianothat the
people by the operation of any bills were prevent-
ed meeting, in orderto'fbitt thef tomptalets tot
Parliament. He entered into a jalfiation or
the condua of the Secret Committee, and the rea-
lons upon which it had proceeded, itt•tndebse its
report be obferved, that it vres by 110 ihete!ebew
in the hiftory of the country to have a change of
adminiftration, without a change of
pies; and Rated a particular intlionte an the
year 1717, in the reign of George the Pirl, 'with
reference to the political principles'of the Earl of
Sunderland, and Mr. Townfend, both equally
attached to the Houk of Hanover. Witt nyazd
to what-the Hon. Gentleman had bid conewniat
(pies and informers, be Would of lt hlns,swbetbutle
had read the report? _if he had;be
depended upon much granger aid tneeillselen-
choly grounds than perhaps the repaid-itassy for..
met CoWimittee. Tice !Wes in which we lived
were pecelia' r, and riqnrect estisioranary and
tinnftal tnetiturrs- Never before Inikoesipiracies.
been fupported by the her
and
implacable enemy like the one etb.aellldeorc had
to contend. When it Witt ferneter had
been futpetteci in England had ad y taleatelace
in Ireland, produced by means preeiklj the 'Cia;
as thrice which the welt-timed anoint!! has! &p-
-p/mired, and for which-they now *Otte lo he
indemnified. We had fees that, is ettit coon-
try where 17,-- Ibad prevaileel,Frenrh' •
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_ Copper ;
this erll eiderolhollotolid a (cease tlme oo Mestsey.
The Cameeteal* date LP:clime:as pottpceed the Order
of the Day fie a Copmeattee er Supply, to Meataley.--Apeed to.
He Iliad des wee tiler the neeeffitr of aids sex=
the I*W/este 4th. Hook to the Meese
K the reanandos articles of the year to Wedsacky
The Repent Ode rowel Ceimoktees co the frith
Deey_ /11!1, Lhaotee SW the ry
Laws ahead

Agents
to be indemnified for las of oppreMon and etnekyY
He then entered into a detail of the Report of the
Secret Committee, and called the whole a farrago
of old materials, put together for the purpofe of
giving a pretext ;.13 his Majefty's prefent Minifters
to tread in the footileps of their precteceffors.—
Surely, he Paid, the Attorney General would not
tell the Houfe that the condua of a few &rude'
—thelerufalem Sea—or the condua of that firnatie
'Spetiee, whom the Attorney General had etitered
la profecution againfi,, could juftify the Reps taken
by Government; When that unfortunate man was
brought into the Court of King's Bench, he would
•KW the Attorney-General if his condua did not
,Ihew him to be more fit for Bedlam than to be made
the fubjeaof a legal profecution ? yet the condukt c f
.ehis =adman is held as a juliification of the extra-
ordinary ads of the prefent Adminifinttion, who
call forthi s unprecedented meafure before the Houfe.
Hs contended that the Indemnity Bills patted in
the • 1746 and 1780, bore no - the

years _ analogy to
pretest metifure; and be thought if at of CrureTty
were pradifed; aM of that no man could have a
'abut*, that the laws of the country ought to be
'Coffered to take their courfe, add thofe who were
oppreffed have an opportunity of feeking redrefs.
The Honfe was told that the people were in a Rate
ef infurredioo, at leaf} the lower o' its of the peo-
ple. He believed the mars of the 'people found
sad loyal—that they were dikontented he was
toady to admit; and that there were legitimate
nodes for difcontent no manshe• thought would
deny, who looked to the long continuance of the

war, to the encreafe of taxe,"and of penfions; but
thefe, be thought, did nor warrant the extraordi-
thu
vary meafuseb that had bete reforted to, and the
more extraordinary mcaftires before the
*life. As one of the motives giver, by the Hon.
Geutieman on the oppofite fide of the Houfe, for
the extraordinary meafure before it, they are told
that his ' '- Mini flers - - • have exereif.

a French _
arms had psevaitild, and confeqiiently *hi fibres,.
fon of the Geftt4rtment of thole chbleffes. Ai
to the manner in..which the HOnotitifilX Gentle-
man had fpoken of fpies and inforMers, 'he would
only obferve that it was the duty of every. fubjett
who had taken the oath of 10 rein-
formation of any thing that Might Come to his
knowledge, affeCting either the King or his Go-
vernment ; but it was neeelfary to have paitieill*}r
perfons whole Pole-bafinefs it was to obtain foth
information. The tranquillity of the 'country could
not be preferred without having fuch a fylleth of
precaution ;• he thought Each perfons not only en.
titled to proteetion but to gratittxk. He was ye-
Trilling that any perfon ihould be inttletiefirilf
confined, but he confidered the lenity Esercifect
by the late Minifters, as a principalreafmt for pro-
taling them. He bad, as a Member of the.fge:
crct Committee, ndt afented to the report trfek-
'out the fulleft convietion of the truth of Whit ft
contained, and the' neceffity fort)-- iunnr:- it

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ecomMended. The preterit was a pdrioil dew.
ger, and, therefore, whatever tesdkreirery diminde
turn of the liberty of the fubjea Was necetraffa
molt be fubmitted to. He hoped tie ineafutii
which had been taken would castle. Goleelirdem
to proted the property and fafety °revery Peace-
ful fubjed, and,finally convioce the Edloyal of the
wickednefs and impoffibility of their difigns. He
hoped, when peace with every foreign and donut.
tic enemy was reftored, we lhould Mime all the
bleffings of our Conflitution but it the prefent
noment he he was a • --gs friend to every
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ping thatcouldaffor4 proteCtion to the e,..
rower.
Sir Wm. EL ;ORD fupported the bill ass meafure
4rit of inciiipenfible juilke, to protea aguish vezatiuut
its thole Minifters who only aCted to the WI 4
their judgment in the execution Of itrok-Eztrsor•
dinary powers with which the Hoch inks wiliimn
km eentrufted them for the Witty of the hate.
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alla I" Illa alliall 1111. wen resd mad agreed e- ed the power they tsoffeired with more rigour Was for the due ezertion.and sat aim wanton abate
thsk ins name as be read a third time en Monday. than they did ; for this reafon the Houle is cal. of thofe powers that the indemnify wog handed.
PaNSIONS AND ?LAO'S. led upon to prevent their fellow fubjefts from Of the grounds of necellity npon irbiell'fbey hard
Mr. Room's rote to bring forward his pronifed vindicating their innocence, becaufe maead of they thernfelves only could judg44l;uttn cootie!"
motion relative to the PenftonLik' He Paid, that as many hundreds they only confined thirty un- for aging to the bea of their ju=it would be
;twat the bounden duty of the Houk to watch fortunate men in damp, cold, dreary cells for five coatrary to the liberality that ever diaia-
with a jealous eye the expenditure of the public years; fame of them, as had been admitted, with 1 guith the principles of Parliament 'IOSI7 dirt aOe
money, particularly when the prefent enormous out having their commitment* joaified by a furitlel ad like daaardly Generals ishq iitik WM OP
amount of the taiatkn, and the eatravagatat ea• adult. Yet theft Hon. Gcntlatten boaltctiof the eve of the battle, but oohliiwast4 Mt treat