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star on his breast, and was known to be Sir
'Wilson. It would, have better become him
profesfel *Oat the conduct of the populace,
as that.of the troops, many of whom had been
gerQuay' wounded on that day. A Bill had
Brought in, in 1734, to limit in this case the prero.
gative of ie Crown, which*Bal had been scouted '
the Commons of that day. If the troops were'
made amenable to others than the Officers
whose command they were; all military subordination
would be at an end. Ministers would have failed in
their duty to the Crown, had they not advised the
dismissal of the Hon. Gentleman.
Mr. CALVERT explained.
Sir R.• WILSON said, that he bad stated to Sir
, Rotten Baker that the Blues were popular, and that
that was fortunate.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY understood
the Hon. and gallant Gentleman had made these ob-
servations in presence of the people.
Mr. LAMBTON said, in explanation, that what
he stated was, that an Officer in the Army could no
more be deprived of his commission, than a freehoder
of hismperty.
SirJOHN NEWPORT said, that the Noble Lord
seemed to feel sore on the affairi of Ireland, and
hence had arisen tke taunts of the Noble Lord. The
vote he should give on this occasion would depend
on this question, whether the controul over the Army
was to rest with the Crown or the Parliament? .If
o ie Officer could appeal to the House, so might every
other, and that would lead to a communication be-
tween the leading Members of that House and the
Army. He must, therefore, with much regret, vote
against the production of the papers moved for,
though he thought the exercise of the power of the
Crown in this case harsh and unadvised.
Mr. HOME could mail), to the correctness of the
statement made by his Hon. Friend. The Noble Lord
had alluded to the funeral of her Majesty, though in
the case of any other Member he would have depre-
cated any such allusions. He (Mr. Hume) would
keep the Army under the regulations of the Mutiny
Act. That Act distinctly stated that a Military Of-
ficer was to be tried by a Court Martial. The conduct
of Ministers was, therefore, illegal bath in the present
and every similar instance. The object of the inter-
e of his gallant Fa fend had been to stop the ef-
fusion of human blood. He denied that any such
power as had been exercised was any part of the pre-
rogative of the Crown. The speech of the Noble
Marquis was an insult to the House. He was sorry
that ti:e Nobl.: Lord had left the House —(A laugh).
But he had insulted the House when he asked it if
they would have justice administered there as at the
Old Isai:ey ? When he heard the soldiers were com-
tn:.ting inurde , he had said—o F.r GOD'S sake, Sir
Robe' t, don't let us go dieter (Loud and continued
lavluer). It ‘‘a, Ministers that had raised the spirit
o, which the Noble Lord complained, by their tie it-
n cut of the Queen, and which had been continued
I.:squid the grave. If there were a Reformed House
oZ Parliament, Ministers would have to answer for
tin ir c-nduct at the bar of the House.
Mr. HORACE TWISS observed, that the Hon.
C..ntlenien opposite agreed but in one point, which
w..;, that the power alluded to ought to be exercised
by a Court-Martial. In his opinion, the prerogative
oie own was the safeguard of the Constitution,
a rd though the iiou-.e :::.;ht advise the King in
other matter-, they had no right to intertc7e
tious of military law. It had been said, that Minis-
ters were not responsible ; but he would say, that
they were both responsible and accountable, ex-
cept in matters relating to the A: my, and in these
they Were neither responsible nor accountable.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said, that the N ,hle
Lord would not agree to the motion, as, if agreed
to, inquiry must succeed. The Noble Lord had ad-
verted to a number of topics that had no bearing on
the caw. Upon the statement of the No(.le Lord, the
House w as bound to agree to the motion, unle.s it
meant to abandon wholly the redress of the grievances
of the People If the Army were to be the slaves of
istetial caprice, the consequences would be most
dreadful. When the At my was accused of shedding
the blood of the People (he would not say whether
necessarily or not), that seemed to him but little cal-
culated to excite the merriment displayed by the
Noble Lord. The Noble Marquis had talked that
evening of the discipline of the British Army, as if
that was the cause of all the glories which it had
achieve!. Now the cause was notoriously different,
add was one that never operated upon the soldiers of
Continental Powers. It was because he knew that
be was riot the slave of caprice—it was because he
Liew if he did his duty, his superiors had no right to
tyrannize over him—it was because he had a feeling
of personal freedom about him—it was because he
hoped to return to his country in possession of the
same civil sights as those whom he had left there be-
hind him, that the feelings of the English soldier
arose on the day of battle to that enthusiastic pitch
of valour, which led him, through blood and death,
to honour and victory. But even supposing that the
discipline of ill Army was so all-important as it
had been represented. it was not necessary to the
existence of that discipline that the Crown should
possess that power which it had exercised with
regard to his Honourable and gallant Friend.—
It was a power that none of the Continental despots
possessed. The King of Prussia could not dismiss a
single officer without a Court-martial. Bonaparte, in
the zenith of his glory, when he was master of the
whole of Europe, never dared to exercise so de-
testable and tyrannical a power as Ministers had crier,-
cisest--(llear, hear)—and therefore it was utterly
absurd to say that this arbitrary and discretionary
power, which had never been exercised by two mili-
Lary autocrats, was necessary to the discipline of an
army. The whole of the political life of the Noble
Lord had been identified with innovations on the
Constitution of his country. He had first destroyed
the liberties of his own country, and was now at-
tempting to play the same game here!—(Hear, hear).
With regard to the question then before them, if they
valued the portion of character which was still left
to them—if they had any desire to act consistently
with the principle of their ancestors—it they did not
wish to make the House of Commons a mere Court
for registering the arbitrary decrees of a despotic
Ministry, and the mere machine for extracting money
from the pockets of an impoverished People, they
would hiquire into this case, which had every appear.
ante of harshness and injustice about it..-(Chsers).

reasons
her Majesty was alive, he had worn thit star in bel
presence, and she was pleased that he had done so;
because it was of a Prussian Order, and had been
worn both by her father and brother—(Hear, hear).
'Be therefore wore it on the day of her funeral as a
tribute to her memory. In conclusion he would say,
that he should never cease to demand redress until
be obtained it ; and till then, he must ever stigma.;
the the Ministers who had deprived him of his rank,
-as a set of lawless and vindictive oppressors! (Cheers).
Mr. BROUGHAM gave the most ample corr..bo-
ration to all the statements of his gallant Friend. An
hour after Sir R. Wilson passed Kensington Church,
there was no attempt sit obstruction to the funeral.
Dr. LUSHINGTQN- merely lose to confirm, so far
as his knowledge went, the statement Of his gallant
Friend, What he could say was, that, after his own
coach had passed through Cumberland-gate, he for
the first time heard the firing. It naturally attracted
his attention, though he had no idea that it was fit ing
with ball. Where he was at that moment, there weir
certainly no stones thrown : he would not say that
none were thrown, but he certainly did not see any.
Mr. ELLICE merely rose to confirm the statement
of his gallant Friend's journey from France. The only
night they slept on the road was at Canterbury, and
his gallant Fi iend did not leave him until four or five
o'cli,ck in the evening of the day previous to the fu-
neral. h was, therefore, quite impossible that he
could have been a party to any of the proceedings
which had been alleged against him.
Colonel CAVENDISH was sorry that his Hon.
Friend (Mr. Lansbton) should call the regiment with
which he was connected " murderers"—(Hear, hear)
—and he was the more particularly surprised at such
an imputation, given on the authority of perjured
witnesses, who were ready to swear anything upon
that investigation—( Hear, hear):. Having made that
remark, he should leave the House to dispose of the
question ; as, having been connected. with the
he felt it would be indelicate for him to interfere.

Dlr. LAMBTON, in esplatiaziun, said, di:it his
statement wa., that murder had been committed on th:tt day.
Lord I.: X BRIDGE said that the lion. Gentleman bid iyi.ken
on the authority of an luquvst, the evidence adduccd at which
ought not to be believed.
Mr. CALVERT rose amidst loud cries of " gIICStiJII !"
which rendered him inaudible.

The House then divided, and the numbers were—
For the Modem, 97 I Against it, 179 I :Majority, 10f,.
The flot‘e then adjourned at Fluff-past o'Cloek.

wet*-Oisked briArai of lb* tlnta oPPoI
bfitla vote tipsiesd neopinion'on the
viol Sir R. NVl4.sos ; but the speeches
expressed i great deal iti his favour.
obscurely hinted at hefote the meet-
were at once abandoned. We heard
amounting nearly to High Treason
threats of criminal proceedings. No
fact, assigned for his dismissal but
the dismissal of any Officer in the
to•morrow—namely, the irresponsible e'er-
prerogative.

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Ws hen 6.6 morning received Spanish, Lisbon,
Freisch,'ind Hamburgh Mails, bringing papers of a
veil recent date. The Lisbon journal.i, which are to
tire sth instant, contain an account of the celebration
of the Anniversary of the Installation of the Cortes
on the 28th tilt. The Cortes were still occupied in
discussing the Constitution.
The Madrid papers are to the lst instant. In the
Sitting of the Cortes, on the 50th ult. the debate on
the opinion of the Committee relative to the affairs of
the Colonies was continued.

The SECRETARY of the Counties stated, that the
Government approved of the opinion of the Com-
mittee, only with the addition of a clause that the
measure proposed was not to be understood as any
thing but a measure of pacification. After some de-
bate, this addition made by the Government, was re-
ferred to the Committee.

Accounts from Cadiz, of the r 2 d ult. state, that
Brigadier-Gen. Don .loAQtriar EscAnto had that day
assumed the political government of the province to
the entire satisfaction of the inhabitants, who had be-
come anxious for tranquillity. It is stated from St.
Sebastians that seven of the insurgent leaders had
been taken.

The French Papers of Monday possess little inte-
rest. A new conspiracy k said to have been disco-
vered at Nantes: three alicers were arrested, and
some subalterns had fled.

The Avgsburg G'azdie, in news from the Morea to
the middle of December, says, that the Greek Con-
gress, sitting at Argos, was occupied in the general
organization of the Peninsula, which has been divided
into twenty-four districts. It is said that the Con-
gress has dispatched Prince CANTACUEENK to Peters-
burgh, to solicit the support of the Emperor ALEX-
ANDER; and several of the German Papers state that
the Pi ince has received permission from the Russian
Government to proceed to the capital. These Parers
contain a variety of contradictory conjectures re-
specting the negotiations between Russia and Turkey,
but a private letter from Petersburgh asserts, that so
far from the prospect of the continuance of peace be-
tween Russia and the Porte becoming more favour-
able, there 1% every appearance of war.

From the Hamburg): Papers, which are to the 9th
inst. we make the fullowing extracts :

ST. PETF.RSBUIICH, JANUARY 23.

We know nothing here of an Ukase ordering the
abolition of the Lodges of the Freemasons, which
hare hitherto been under the prote:tion of our mild
Government.

We have the following authentic accounts from
the Turkish frontiers :

The Servian Deputies were still in arrest at Con-
stantinople, and Servia itself is said to be in general
insurrection against the TU3 ks. The Pacha has had
several of the principal Servian Chiefs executed, and
is said to have himself fallen a sacrifice to a furious
insurrection of the people.
• The heroic Captain Jordaki is really in safety ;he
escaped to this side of the Pruth, but all his brave
companions have been sacrificed in the most barba-
rous manner at Constantinople.
Up to this moment not the slightest change has
taken place in our relations with the Porte. The pas-
sage of couriers to and from the army on the Pruth
is very frequent. Nothing positive is hitherto known
of any official declaration either of the Porte or of
the mediating Powers, in reply to the ultimatum of
our Court.

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rs under which had fallen from the Nobk Marquis wspOsitei. .., .
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rdination !The Noble Marquis had stated, With-iiiome little dere•
failed in I liction of his usual courtesy, thatihelSir •ft.. Wilson) *hat !light justify
rind the :bad worn a star upon his coat. 'He would Apitly Army, to-morrow—
! I state to the House his reasons fed-doing;so. While else of 'the preropt