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such a one. They there saw Mr. "%rem, Who, upon
being sheave the receipt, read it deliberately, and said
they could not sign, as they did not like their names to
appear on a receipt which seemed on the face of it to be
illegal. He (Me. Watson) proposed a short receipt,
and that witness should give him a letter of instrec-1
tions how to act with the money. He then brought
a short receipt from the outer shop, which he (Wat-
son) filled up, part being printed, and on the back he
wrote the form of the letter of instructions. The
letter of instructions was blank for the appointment,
and then ran—" if that event shall take place in
two months, we promise to pay, &c." This copy
witness took away. About five o'clock in the evening
of the same day, witness called again with Mr. Har-
vey, at Mr. Watson's banking house, where they
found Pollmann in waiting for them, according to
appointment, in order that the witness might either
pay the money on those terms, or give an answer.—
Mr. Harvey was here introduced as the particular
friend of the witness. He then produced a receipt
and letter of instructions, which being first shewn to
Pollmann and then to Watson, they both said it was
right. This receipt, &c. was copied from Watson's,
and proved by the witness in Court. The money
was then "paid, and the witness and Harvey came
away. He was led to expect the situation immedi-
ately. Some days after witness received a letter Irom
Pollmann, and having gone in- consequence, with
Harvey, Pollmann appointed to go to the Lidy in
the evening, whose influence was to procure the ap-
pointment. Witness wished Harvey might also go ;
this was at first objected to ; but Pollmann at last
consented. In the evening the defendant Pollmann
called on the witness and Harvey, at the Cannon
Coffee-house, and they all proceeded to Crown.street,
Westminster. Pollmann there introduced them to
a house where they found two Ladies, Mrs.. Hardy
and Mrs. Berry, and a Gentleman whom they scarce
saw, for he retired the instant they entered the room.
Poilmann said to Mrs. Hardy, this is the Gentleman
(meaning witness) who is to buy the situation. She
replied, she was glad to see him ; that she had writ-
ten to the Gentleman who could procure it, and had
recommended witness very strongly. While this was
passing, Mrs. Berry said to Pollmann—" I sold the
Paymastership for 1000 guineas." To which he re-
plied," and I sold the Patent Searchers, for 30001. ;
that was a stfaie, but I got through it." When
Harvey and witness came away, Polimann accom-
panied them, and during the walk, said, " in fact it
is a Lord of the Treasury, one very near the Duke of
Portland, throsigh whom this place is to be got ; the
Duke of Portland makes the oath for these parties,
and he khows it is broken every day ; his Grace gets
from 20 to 30,0001. a-year by selling such places."—
On the 19th he received another letter from Poll-
mann, on which witness went down, on the 20th, and
was told he had been sent for to receive some instruc-
tions, which Pullmann could not find at first, but said,
wituess should have the appointment immediately ;
and that the Lady (Mrs. Hardy) had said he would
have two months examination to pass, but that he
might get over, for two or three weeks, by giving a
few dinners. Witness farther said, that Mr. Harvey
was present at all the interviews he had with the par-
ties after the first ; that he always pressed the fulfils
ment of their promise, which was sometimes excused
on account of the Enquiry then commenced in the
House of Commons, which would create some delay,
but he should still have the place. One day he ob-
served Pollmann looking over his book for copies of
letters ; witness said to him, " your names have been
mentioned in the House of Commons, and Mr.
Wardle said he saw you." Pollmann replied, he
never saw Mr. Wardle to his knowledge ; but in con-
sequence .of their n ones having been so mentioned, he
was looking over his letters to destroy them. He saw
Mrs. Hardy once in Crown-court, when she got an
affidavit of the witness's which she said was necessary,
and that she would go and give it to the Gensleman
immediately, who was to procure the situation. She
also esces.d the delay.
Cross-examined by the COMMON SI,:RJEANT.
Witness said, Pollinann did not seem to wish for se-
crecy in tl.e business ; but told hint -at one time he
might go to the Custom-house and inquire. Denied
he ever had said " Oh ! get me the place, and never
mind the oath." Pollmann said, he was an Hano-
verian. Witness was about five or six years ago, a
Barrister at Law, and had practised for about six years;
WAS apprentice to a Mr.Willet ; had no connection with
a Sheria's.calicer, named Cawdie. When about 17
or 18, used to discount notes with money given him
by his trieads, but never after he was of age. After
he was a Barrister, he had writs issued against him,
which made him abscond till he was outlawed. He
never hinted to the defendants that it was an illegal
transaction.
Being questioned' by Lord ELLENDOIIOUGII, witness
said, he did this with a view to the detection of tile
defendants, when he found it illegzp, but had he found
it legal he would have purchased the place.
Mr. Harvey corroborated the statement of last wit-
ness as far as he himself was present ; and added, that
once Pollmann said, Hest must take a little bit of a
temporary oath. At Mrs. Hardy's he ( Pollmann)
said to Hest " I have taken 40 oaths in a day ; you
can vary easily take this oath, as you do not purchase
the place, but our interest ;" and on another occasion,
" you can swear easily, as you know you do not pur-
chase the place yourseif, bat your friend." He said
he (witness) had the £1990, which he was provided
with to pay the bankers, and it had been repaid, as
well as the £lO paid by Hest. Another reason for
delay, besides the enquiry pending at that time in the
House of Commons, was assigned by Pollmann, which
WAS a death in the family of the Gentleman, by that
witness understeod the Lord of the Treasury.
Mr. Caowcu and Mr. Gas taus Stated the nature of the office,
which was an.ollice of trust in the Custums, to receive and weigh
and register all goods carried coastwise.
Mr. ESPIT7ASSL, for the th•feudant POIIMaUII, was about to
contend that the offence, as charged, was not an offence against
law.
Lord ELlANNogoucu reminded him that this was an objection
to he trade in Court, ant not at the trial.
The Learned Counsel then said he. should reserve his observa-
tions.
The COMMON SCIULANT made some severe observations upon
Mr. Hest, as a barrister, for ensuing at all in such a transac-
tion, and said, that it it was true, he, as a lawyer, supposed he was
engaged hi a legal transaction, his client (lie)lech), ulna was a
poor deluded man, wai much more likely to be deceived. He
called several witue..es, a Mr. Evans, Mr. Lbenezer Maitland,
and the poctor4 Robert Winter, Varthshori:, and klundis, to his
character.
Mr. Gases ze addressed the Jury in behalf of Mn. HARDT*
Mr. Dituais spoke.also in behalt ofs-n, when
Lard ALLxsucricuucii woo.-4 liun and said, it did not appear

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teem the evidence that Watson was acquainted with the unlawful having been . preViously informed t6t Mr. Methwaid Wli it
purpose, or entered into the conspiracy as it was charged in the Ciendemaa df *intent temper, was detertrilded to thee Lb thebia.
indictment, and therefore he Must be acquitted. 7 that. I was not easily to be intimidated.—...4s to the Reif. MI);
The Ar veitnxe-gaiscititt suggested, that if he knew only a Methwuld, it was represented to rile, that, during the time he
part of the transaction which was illegal, add concerred is it, he passed in London, he was always to bt: found at lett: .all's,
joined in the conspiracy. and
But Lord ELL t wanitoung still thought that the formal object la:d was called to order by the Eench, for entering Into t xtrato.-
of the conspiracy as charged, did not appear to be known to him, ()us matter.) " I merely, continued Mrs. S. intenthd to ciplain
and he must be acquitted. the reason why I thought it necessary to put myself urin the du-
The Avroatir.e-Catsaaat replied, and defended the character fensiye—not that I that g:it Mr. iviethweM, as a cicrtyman,
of Mr. Hest. would himself acempt to use any violent means, but th't it was
. .
I.ord ELLlNBOltollnit said bethought Hest was hardly treated probable Mr. Turntr might be instigated by his advice so to du ,
by the Counsel, and that the advertisement gave no Intimation and the r) awn: why my door was at first locked, was, bee7t.se 1
to any lawyer that the place to be sold was any other than a place was rot dreued, and my servant informed them it should be
which might legally be sold. Pie summed up the evidence as it opened as Loon as I bad my gown on—and I did immediately a.`-
applied to each defendant, and the Jury found all guilty except terwards op:Is the door. I said' I trust you do not mean to tr,-ac •
Watson. the with violence.' There was, on the ehimney-piecei a smelt
f ,rk, with which I tad been toasting a piece cf Dread
. .. .
•!If - Mr.'

, (O: my
breakfast ; honk it upt and addressing myself to ~.'rurrela
NORFOLK COUNTY StSSIONS. I said—' If you do attempt to use any violence tome, I EEO be
INTERESTING CASE.
ender the necessity ofdefending myself, and I will tide: this fork
On Thursday, at these County Sessions, was argtt-
tato your foolish head, not into your brains. for you have none.'
ed, before a Bench of near fifty Magistrates, (Mr. Mr. Metioveld replied, ' I.ay down you: fork, no violence v/A
DLOEIELD Chairman), a cause, which, from its no- be used towards you: .1 then held it as a fan, and jocosely said,
that it looked very ornatnented ; begging them to recollect, that
velty, and the parties concerned, had for some time
I should not use it, except call' 4 on. in my
.own defence, seed I
greatly excited public curiosity. Our Readers will
then laid it duwi'. Gentlellittl, can it be believed, that so small
recollect, that one of the charges which were brought end weak a p.o ten as myself, could tree sufficient violence to-
against the Dake of York, was his refusing Major wards a 1111:1 of Mr. Turner's athletic person, as to Fiat lam in
fear of his life, when, with a single hand, or even a finger, be
Whichcote Turner leave to sell his commission ; he
the Commander in Chief, being guided by the will mightail have overpowered ma ? And, if you look at the size of
person, you will scarcely think I could reach his head, and
of Lucy Anne Sinclair, or Sutherland, who was much less the place where his brains ought to he. But Gentlemen,.
supposed to have some considerable influence with I wish also to state, tart Mr. Turner many tithes his used violeet
his Royal Highness. Major now Mr.) Turner, re- threats towards me ; particularly at one time, *hen he opened
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the window, and declared he would throw me out—and at ano-
sides at Buckenham, near Attlehorough, in Norfolk ; thee, when he threatened to overturn me in the curl-tele into a
and for some time Mrs. Sutherland had lived with. ditch; but I pointed out, that he would most aese redly accent-
him. Altercations had arisen between the parties, palsy me in the fall—a foresight beyond his comprehension ; and
and Mr. Turner exhibited articles against this Lady his.‘ own personal fears then restrained the menace. At length the
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for a breach of the peace, stating in his affidavit, thatons:Aa came, and carried me, in the wet, to the Hurl. mt.
Herbert's, of whose excessive politeness, and extreme hospitality
he was in bodily fear of his life, for Mrs. Sutherland • and other high qualities, his Counsel; this day, has made such a
had once declared in Kent,- she would be revenged boast. When 1 got there, Mr. Herbert, the Rev. Mr. Meth-
on him ; that since that time, on the Bth of March, wold, and Mr. Turner, were at dinner; and, notwithstanding
Mr. Herbert's excessive politeness, I was compelled to wait a
she came to his house in Norfolk, and took possession . considerable time, till after dinner. Mr. Herbert then informed
of it for some days; hut when Mrs. Sutherland came, me, that I must enter into a recognizance to appear at the Ses-
he went away into Suffolk.. On Sunday, the 4th of . glens, but I refused to enter into a recognizance with Mr. Herber',
Mrs. Sutherland came in the morning,
June, before : because I would nut give up my claim to enter that house, where
was up, and again took possession of his house. i the most sacred engagements gave me a right to go. He then de-
heHe, the exhibitor, went away to his brother-in-law's, i Viairsedl consented.'
Irtneidus.t Iftowtons
tNenorwecielnhckCasttle until the Sessions. To
gr. Herbert's, Ill.s.orliceittehi
the Rev Mr. Methwold of Stoneham ; and on their i woad and Mr. Turner both slept ata Mni
return on the following Thursday, the affidavit stated , permission to sleep at Mr. Turner's, as my things were all there,
Mrs. Sutherland locked the door against him, but it : but this was refused me ; and I was compelled to go two miles
I foraw.h beifdlladivding previouslyctapp
was afterwards opened ; and that when Mr. Turnerappointed the next day to go to Nur-
no. : wentic to ttheinmorrow (the Friday). lagain
and Mr. Methwold went in, Mrs. Sutherland, holdiMr. Herbert's, g very rainy, I said I did not
o
in a menacing manner a large iron fork in her hand, i choose that my servants, horses, or carriage, should travel in the
exclaimed—" If that rascal touch me, I will run I wet; and added, those who sent must find me a conveyance to
Theso CasOenvstearvble theft n applied all
understoodover the
rP
then parishce o h
fur
ih
a cart,
this through his thick head !”—The affidavit went ' butla.s
on to state, that Mr. Turner applied to the Hon. 1 cart was to be applied, the Constable every wherep waas refused. tOtn3
George Herbert to exhibit articles of the peace against i his reporting this to Mr. Herbert, that Gen:lawn replied, ' Then,
her, when she again behaved violently; and he, Mr. i get a :Lege, that is good enough for her?—(Upoil this some re •
marks.
b were made from the Brach, and Mr. Herbert strongly on-
i
Whichcote Turner, being in bodily fear, begged that jetted to such facts brine related there)—Mrs. Sutherland replied
Court to restrain the said Lucy Anne Sinclair Suther- ' " I thought I was entitled to enter thus far into my defence—and
land from maiming him, by finding sureties for her• I conceived it to be the more necessary, after the pompuus man-
ner in which Mr. Alderson, Mr. Turner's Counsel, feel Loa:kJ
Turner
the pefirfrif.,r and attention with which I was treated by Mr.
Mr. ALDERSON, as Counsel for .Mr. Turner, having I linwrgeglaeradvetotnoi yatpareteventhtianag Mr. Tar-
stated stated the contents of the affidavit, contended, that n ,
rr.aneiranatinldy al
visriting.himert.
Mr. Turner having sworn to the matte's contained in, education, and present acquaintance, place me in. a rankyfar su-
it (and if he had sworn falsely, he might be indicted Parlor to any of them ; and as to Mr.l urner's connections being
deprived the same pleasure, they wood all, not
for perjury), the Court ought to grant his petition, excepting even
and that Mrs. Sutherland ought not to be permitted Mr. Alderson and his family, have been highly honoured. Go the
next day, Gentlemen, I came to Norwich in my own carriage,
to reply, either by herself or her Counsel. with the intention of going to g: 01, but I had the good tertune to
Mr. PLUMTREE, in a manly and energetic speech, be recommended to Mr. Cooper as a Counsel, and he advised me
a:ainst tili measure, and I then consented to enter into a recor
observed, that the very foundation and greatest or-
nuance to appear here before
'lament of the British Law, was, that no one couldyou.l 1 could state many other strong
favour, butl am af • the Bench will nut
be condemned unheard ; and he was convinced that be inclined t.to6liiisitentitYto use, and have already occupied much of
the Bench would attend to Mr. Cooper, Mrs. Suther- their time."
land's Counsel, and Mr. P. desired Mr. Cooper to The CnAtemme stated to Mrs. Sutherland, that no e--•••lr:eveS
matter could be admitted, nor private transactions, irrelevant to
claim his request to be heard, not as a favour but a
the point in question, be heard. Mrs. Sutherland then sat down -
right.
and, after a short deliberation, Mr. PLUMTREE addressed the
Mr. COOPER then, in a long and able speech, and 1 Bench: of Magistrates ; observing, that it was the opinion of the
quoting some legal precedents to prove he was cote Chairman, and in whirls, on mature reflection, lie coincided, that
the affidavit of
rect, addressed the Court in behalf of his female the exhibitor (Mr. Whichcote Turner) did cunta:a
client. sufficient though none of the strongest grounds, for them to or-
der the defendanti to enter into a recognizance t°
keep
the peace.
Mr. ALDERSON commented on the observations of Mrs. Sutherland then became
much agitated, and, wishtears
Mr. Cooper, and on the conduct of Mrs. Sutherland, in her eyes, again said, that Mr. Turner had violated every prin-
ciple of religion and honour towards her; and she hoped that the
on whom personally he made some severe remarks.
Court would take into their consideration, that her toriune was
), vine
ihtaadngladbeeetnhesgorenaituecsht
sedacerrile,a.Lssed
abyd Nail rt.
fortable house, and he might enjoy many luxuries,
He also declared that Mr. Turner had a most cone.
niuntrnneorwfnasr
wtohrnitnielral
that his mother and sisters were living with him, that her own personal upplicatiou to him was the only Means now lett
in her power to einorce tither a propriety of conduct front him,
Mrs. Sutherland's presence and conduct prevented or to recover any of her greatly-diminished property, of which
their enjoying that home, and that Mr. Turner's re- he , had got possessiou.
latives and friends were thus precluded visiting him.
General Moser stated, that the opinions of the Magistrates
Mrs. Sutherland then rose, and with unaffected, but mote int- were by no means unanimous; and, being so divided, the ques-
pressive eloquence addressed the Court, telling a plain unvarnish- tion ought to he put individually.
'ed tale, 'Which left no doubt in the mindi cf her auditors, of the Mr. YLUit race then collected the opinions of the Bench,
ill-treetment she had received; and when it is recollected that when there appeared ea Magivrates fur, and 17 against holes.
Mrs. Sutheeland possessed all those advartages which an excel- eutherland's beteg obliged to find any recognizance. imierwards
icnt education, and the most polished society, not only this another debate ensued on the Lettch, whether Mrs. S. eltuuld be
kingdom, but the Continent, had atfortinl, it is not a matter joined in her recognizance by two sureties ?
of astonishment, that her temper should have been somewhat General Waite said, if sureties were demanded, they ought
ruffled by the unmerited behaviour she had experienced, and I not to be for more than 101. and he was ready to be one af them,
that, in an unguarded moment, expressions of anger should have le, were itee„,;„, other Gentlemen.
escaped her lips. Mr. ADAIR stated, teat, having tit:nixed various ewes an this
The Lady spoke nearly in the following woods: point, he could tot find one precedent vehich would authorise
" I have been desirous to address this Court, not only that 1 ,tint in giving his oniniun that there was any necessity in this Case
might shew how many of the circumstances related before you to demand a recognizance.
have been most partially stated, but also to convince you, that Some further conversation ensued, and the CHAIRMAN ordered
there his not been any part of my conduct which can warrant the Clerk of the Court to inform Mrs. Sutherland, that It was
the proceedings Mr. Turner has adopted. First, It has been the decision of the Court, thay she should enter into a recogni-
said, that I forcibly got possession of Mr. Turner's house, aud zatece in the Will of ibt.l. to keep the peace towards the exhibi-
that at an early hoer, before he was up. The fact is, that I ar- to., Mr. Whirdnate 'Curter, tor the space of twelve months.
rived in the village over night, in my own carriage, but too Lae Mrs. Sea:tartar:el is an elegant figure, of the middle stature, a
to procure a bed, and I was obliged to remain in my carriage. brsniit..„ with hue dark eyes, and eiii-lion-p int. Her naliners are
About seven in the morning, 1 went to Mr. Turner's, and sent extremely tea:mating, and she is a very accomplished wauien,
one of his servents to hint with a message, saying, I wanted to speaking fluently several languages. She was dressed entirely 115
see him on important business. It is true 1 did atiaht,and mann I white, with a small strew hilt, tiud with a little piece of 11;ue rib-
in—Where ? into that house. which, as Mr. Turner's Counsel bun, and wore a black veil. Mrs. Sutherland, by her story, and
leas stated, boasts of ell those comforts that afford an much era- her appropriate dentemmur daring the trial, e meted the getterel
tification to his another, his sisters, and his other relatives f— nacres: or the Court, and every one was erotical, to ketch a pas-
true, Gentlemen ; but those comforts were procured by my mu- sieg e,limpse, as she was escorted to her carriage. Mr.'l timer
ney—with the supplies from my purse seas that house made what was very :mar Mrs. Sutherland the whole time, but he neither
it is ; and for a long time has Mr. Turner been maintained by au, mi,:vd to col:tr.:amt any thi:•g she said, nor did he even once
means of living on nay property! Those comforts I ought to look ;t her.
have shared with hint—end I should have shared them, had he --------i-
-not, in his co:elect towards isle, violated every principle of reli-
gion, conscience. heitour, atal morality.—My zusquaintattee meth On Sunday afternoon, during one of the heavy
Mr.'rurner origiveted Innis the mast I:ono:treble oilers; and lee showers, M. itosseeu, a French officer, confined on
felt and t) pressed himself itiehly honoured when I accepted Olean
b
Although ueerwareo obstacles arose to the fel:inn:tilt of his ern- , •"rkl die Bristol, at Chatham, contrived to escape
miser, he mill professed the same attachment,and I indulged h'in trotsthat ship unobserved, by jump* into the river
in ev ry wish which court: contribute to his happiness, trusting his sivtli a basket ; whets in the water he placed the basket
hfirctiou would be as lata.iie as it appeared sincere. But eiterca- lover his head, and permitted the tide to drive hint ;
Lions, occasioned by Ins id treatment, had arisen,
and I wen'. to Mr.
after.oaving been in this situation tor an hour and a
not even see me, but scat for a constable, who, when he came, halt, perfectly CM
Turner's house to claim my own property. Mr.
TurneP would
cealed by the covering lie had as-
said, he diel,not perceive how he cutid exercise his authority, I sumed, he found himself getting weak, and throwing
away his basket, endeavoured to make tor tins: shore,
Then Mr. 'Ctuner went to
Georgeeon-
Herbert; but Mr. Terrier, from whic'i he unexpee'tediffound himself at a great
snouonitihhaisal‘vr.ilenatgiuirvslilir:altat,etieddthtmleleei,ipohe,acie.
peace. Then
not wish to lutenist r, stab: g,
that a female relative ot his wife's father was very 11.;:inate with distance ;11'6 strength, however, had so far failed him,
that all iiis exertions were unavailing, and he w. Sat •i
ns
ttaet,t avii : tit thil:dt Ibeweans
travelling
telai
itrfga\a• favourite iitseh Nsr,-1:1111.413
ie rl.v a
eAras
ui
chi7factibg,u• toe
fatigued
the point of sinkieee when a vessel tortunetely carne 'll
his
in his room,
.a hook mmy lier.d,...n a wre
along and ••• ke d pic . him up. Upon being taken to i
•
them bptb from use, nearly knocked me off.my chair. He quarters-, lee said he wits determined never tit risque -
;ItnhgadjewhiCliukn sitting in
I rested my feet. Mr. Turner, iti .orciblyold • .
taking
Isle the hone, locking up the chambers, giving orders not
then lelanother arxmpt. M. Rosseau is J. very interesting
thing anti ente rprisiill• • r man ; during the time he has
b )ouni,
for live days and five nights, 1 Was obi 1
ige to
to permit me to leeve a bed to lie upon nor yet any to eat
or thine. ; and, been ..et Lilitth.Ml, ho li.‘s made four ix five attempts
to escape, and once (about this tine last ) ear), 'tad I
keep in a sonfltailllept;areiltu.nthirtniartt wviausaginmdrseibtwedhntosetnhte
rallb;stoaalilteybleatl.l,l.
bi,ltlanity
tent, souse victuals. and sonic wine, for they always ereettly ie-
tereeted themseive hernceiug nie Upon Mr, *i'urtier's return • •
so nearly effected it, that he Was picked up by one ok
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or crutecrs ne a small open peret2 wit.an Int c v
t).l the following' sday, he brought with blue the Rev. Mr. (,), , ...
Metlewold, of Stoneham, in itifolk, his trother.in-law ; and l; POLliozne.

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