Star.
London, England, 1807-04-14 00:00:00

MALMOE, MARCH 20.

On the 9th intlant two Swedi(h (hips of the line,
King Gullavu• HI. and Prince Frederic Ad ,Iphtts,
Called from Carlfcroon with feveral detachments of
troops, &Rifled for Pomerania. The French con-
tinue to defert in great numbers ; they have not made
the lea progrefs in the liege of Stralfund. •

LOWER ELBE, MARCH in.
According to a letter from a French officer, dated
Molten, near Colberg, the 14th inflant, that fortrefs
is now blockaded. Several engagements have lately
taken place in the neighbourhood, which turned out
to the advantage of the French. A company of Bo-
naparte's gendarmes d'urdonance, is employed at the
blockade. . .
HAMBURGH, MARCH 30.
The Head Qbarters of the French army continued
at Oflerode on t e 22d init.
P. S. The lateft accounts from :he theatre of war
Teem to announce great events. It is repotted‘that
the right wing of the French army, tinder Martha'
Mama, has made a movement upon the left of the
Ruffians. If this be true, a decifive aaiou appears
inevitable. The alarms excited by thefe movements
are compenfated by new hopes of peace. Alt the
letters from the theatre of war fay that propofals of
peace have been made ; and it is known that the ne=
gociations, to which the p.efence of M. de KIM( at
the French head quarters have giVen rife, are not.yet
entirely brolcca off.

HOUSE. OF LORDS, MO:sit/AY, *Pall al.• .1
The Earl of Dar.carrn and the Margilis -of Munit s:v wervi
introduced with the cuibimary formatiri, s, ard.took the Oathsasid
their feats, as Barons of the United Kingdom.
• RIARCtIIIS OF STAFFORD'S WITIMI. r •
The ()viler of the Day having been read for firm-
mooing the Peers on the notice of Morino given tya ,
the Marquis of STAFFORD. the N 'islastlitts
•ofe, for the purpofe of fubmittitig to their Lordfhtos
t Refolution, which he felt flout anxiety they should
rd apt. Some apology he felt was due to their Lard.
'ips, for troubling them on this occsfion. He re,
vetted that the duty of addreffing their Lotdlbips
tad not fallen upon tome one more adequate to dif.
charge it with impreffion and effeft titan he could
pretend to be. Citeumflances, however, might arife
which would MHO &eh an attempt on the part of
any Noble Lord, and impofe it as a paramount duty
ms him to come forward with the declaration of the
fentiments which he might conceive to prevail in thin
Houle, and in the country. It was upon thefe prin-
ciples that on a former occafion he gave notice of a
motion, which was prevented by the diffolottion of
chat Adminiflration againll which it was aimed. Tire
objed, however, which he fought, was only partially
obtained ; for the Adminiftration which focceedvi
was not conliittred its the manner that he, and thof
who add with him, had reafon to expeEt. It was •
onneeelfary for him to bring to their Lordfhips' re-
colleCtion how that Aimtniltration expired with
:he great man who was at the head of it ; or the cir-
zumltances which led to the formation of a Govern-
nent combining in itielf pet fins of the higtita conti.
deration and talents, and enjoying, to an almott
unprecedented degree, the good opinion of the coun-
try. That.Adminiar.tion his Ivlajelly had been ad-
vifed to difmifs, to the infini•e regret of the country..
Having given his cordial fupport to the late Ministry,
Alrich he did from a firm convidion that they poi-
feffed both the ability and the inclination to render'
‘ervice to the country, he felt it to be his duty to re-
cord his good opinion of them. In d.ring fo, he
would avoid introducing any- matter or exprefli rti
which could by any poflibility be conftrued into a
rtfledion upon that exalted Perfonage, for whom lie
had the molt profound veneration and refpeCt. The
Noble Marquis concluded with moving the following
refolution :
Refolved," That this Moore, feeling the nocefficy of a firm and
ftable Government at this nii.ft important culls of public affairs, is
imprelTed with the deeptft regret at the charge which has taken
place in his Majeity's Councils, and that filch regret is greatly in-
creafed by the cause to which fuch change has been afcribed ; it
being the opinion of this H htfc, that it is contrary to the fiqt du-
ties of the IVilnifters of the Crown to reltrain thzinfelies by any
pledge, expreffed or implied, from giving to his Majtfty any advice,
which in their ju,:gment, the ccturfe of• circumftancei may reitaar
acceffary for the honour and fezurity Of his dominions."
The Earl of ABERDEk.N laid, lie would nett give
his affent to the Refolution propofed by the N 'bee
Marquis. Although it appeared in the (hap.: of a
general truth, and fait of abttrad prop.,fi!lon, yet as
it was avowed to be brought fat war d for the pio pole
of approving the condoet of the late fslii;iaers, he
could not, as difapproving of that condoit, give it_
his concurrence. there were two pal tit, to the ept4-
tion ; the late Minifters, and the Prerogative. He
trolled that Noble Lords would be Callltl•HiS, left, ia
approving one line of condud, blame Should not be
tacitly imputed to the other. Minitters, it ap-
peared referved to thcmfelves a tight of renew-
ing a fubjeet, which they knew was difirgreeable
to his Majefty. Was it ther,:fore farpriling that Its
Majay Ihould require from thefe Minifters the altar- .
ante he did ? His Maje:ly was placed in thole cir- •
cumflances that he had no other alternative. S rtne
allution had been made in that Houle. and other
places, to ferret advifers. Thefe advifers were no
other than thole uptight and confcientions principles
by which every ad of his Majelly's life had been go.
verned. The Noble Marquis had confidered the
prefent quefiion as deeply involving the Conilitution.
,He Should not have troubled their Lordthips, it he
did not confider hirofelf as pleading the caufe that
Conaitution ; and in oppoling the motion of the
Noble Marquis, he felt that he gave the belt proof of
the refped and veneration with which he regarded it.
The Earl of HARDWICKE felt no hefitation in

giving his opinion on the queliion. He fli•nrld think
that it was irnpalible for any man to refute his af-
fent to the fira part of the motion. The neceffity of
a firm and liable governinent at this important
was not more evident than that the recent change in
his Majeßy's Councils was a lubjea of deep and ge-
neral regret. For many of the cadent Members of
I his Maefly's Government he had great pet fonal re.
fpea ; but he was far from being of pini.,n, that they
poffeffed any thing like the talents and rpialifications
of thofe who preceded them. He could not liclp con..
fidering the late Minitiers as mofl injurioully treated,
I and their nhjeds mifieprefented. They were accided
' of no left than of an intention to fubvert the Protef-
taut eßablithment, under pretence of affiinilating the
laws of England and Ireland as to one objed, narne•
ly, the admiffion of Catholics to the army and navy,
tinder certain refirietions. He would appeal to a
Noble Earl, who filled the office of Secretary of
State in Ireland in I /93, whether fuch a pledge had
not been then gi9o to the Parliament and people of
that country 4.•'• -
The Earl of BUCKINGHAMSHIRE faid; that
at the time he brought in the Bill into the Irifb Par-
, liatnent, he Rated that it was in contemplation to in.
troduce tire fame Bill here, ind alto to extend' it to
the navy.
Lord HARDWICKE was happy to have what
he hadadvanced confirmed by the Noble person who'
had fo great a Orate in promoting that salutary Men.
fare. He could not fee what rational objerlion cou'rl
be entertained againft giving his Majetty that power
in one part of the empire, which he poffeffed in ano-
then By the AEI of 1793 his Majelly might appoint
Catholics to naval commands in Ireland ; nay, he
might appoint a Catholic Adritital to command on
the IriOs Ration. In the army, Catholics might alto
• become Gzuerals, but nOt Generals en the Staff itt

that country. Was it confillent with common fenfe
or policy, that they fhould be precluded from filling
thofe fituations in one part of the empire to which
they were eligible in the other ? He could not admi-
that the bill had been unneceffarily brought forward.
Minifters conceived that a folemn pledge had been
given to affimilate the Englifh law to the Irifh Ad of
1793, and it was to redeem this pledge that the mea-
lure was fubmitted to Parliament.' It was not their
intention to renew the fubjed. They agreed to re
linquifh it the moment they found his Majefty enter-
tained ftrong objections to it. He lamented thaffuch
a fpirit Mould have been excited throughput the
country on this occafion, as thete appeared to be,
and that the motives and intentions of the late Mini-
Hers fhould have been fo grolsly mifreprefented. The
whole of the motion of the Noble Marquis had his
concurrence, and that part of it, in particular, which
expreffed the regret of their Lnrdfhips at the recent
change in his Majefty's Councils. This was a feel-
ing in which he was perfoaded a very great majority
of the country would be found to agree with him.
Lord ERSKINE faid, that much rnifreprefentation
had gone forth refpeding the caufes of the difmiffal
of the late Adminiftration. The effect, however,
which waT produced by thefe mifreprefentations, was
a contemptible triumph, which could not be expell-
ed to be very Idling. The fads, the true Rate of
the cafe, might be brought before their Lordfhips in
a few minutes. The Noble Earl who had juft fpoke
anticipated much of what he had intended to fay. It
was not neceffary for him to recal to their Lordfhips'
recollection the long lift.of difabling Statutes, which
weighed for fo many years on the people of Ireland,
and which were fwept away by the beneficent re-
commendation from the Throne in 1793. The Ad
of 1793 threw open the army and navy to the Ca-
tholics. When the late Minifters were called to his
Majefty's Councils, they felt themfelves in a ♦ery
particular fituation. They felt it to be their duty to
increafe the force of • the country by all poffible
modes. They came to the Government at a molt
awful moment. They were in hopes to counterba-
lance the enormous power of France by acquifitions
in other parts of the world ; by diflant expeditions,
which could not be undertaken without combining
the force of the empire. There was no way by
which this great object could be fo effectually pro-
moted as by conciliating the population of Ireland.
By the mt of 1793, an frith Catholic might be an
Enfign, a Lieutenant, a Captain; in short, he might
rife through all the military gradations even to the
rank of a General, without putting the Royal con-
fcience to any inconvenience ; but, if once he were
to become a General on the Staff, then the King's
confcience is faid to be touched, and the Coronation
Oath broken. Was it pollible that fuch fentiments
could be entertained by any perfons claiming to pa-
cers common underftanding ? He would be the Taft
man in the kingdom who would with to fee the King
reduced to a cypher. He would be the Taft man in
the kingdom who would with to fee the prerogative
deftroyed. He was anxious that his Majefly Ihould
receive the honour of fuch ads as had for their ob-
ject the cafe and fatisfadion of the people, and that,
when any thing was wrong, the blame fhould fall on
others. The Bill which was brought forward he
would admit went beyond the Ad of 1793 ; but was
it poffible for any fair or candid man to lay, that the
firft was not an infringement of the Coronation Oath,
and that the latter was? His Majefty could have no
determination inconfiftent with his duty, and the ad-
vantage of his people. It was true that a urifconcep-
lion exifted with regard to the nature of the
Minifiers conceived they had his Majefty's fandion,
when they in fad had it not. As loon as they found
out they were miftaken in this refpelt, what could
they do more than abandon the Bill ? It might be
afked, if they confidered it expedient, why did they
confent to abandon it ? To this he would anfwer,
that there was a great difference between a queftion
of political expediency, and imperious neceffity ; the
former might be abandoned, the latter could not.—
It was to preferve the power of meeting an ex
treme cafe of this kind, that minifters referved to
themfelves the right of prcipofing this fubjed, when-
ever it fkould become indifpenfably neceffary. He
could not conceive what there was offenfive in this
manly and fair refervation. He would live and die
in the opinion, that the difmiffal of the late Mini
Hers was not occafioned by this refervation. It wan
fo unlike that fairnefs, that candour and fimplicity
which charaderifed every aft of his Majefty's life,
that it was impoftihle he could be offended with the
perfons he had called to his Councils, for the honeft
and manly expreffion of their opinion. No, this re-
fervation could not be the caufe. He had reafon to
believe, that the Adminiftration had been doomed to
diffolution for fome time before it was actually
dif-
miffed. He would not take upon him to infmuate
any thing againft the declaration which any Noble,
Lord might have made, or might chafe to make, in
that Houle, or elfewhere, or what any Noble Perron
might affert upon his honour in another place. Ha
had, however, his own feelings and fentiments on
that point. He knew that there were wheels within
wheels in public life, as many as were to be found in
a filk mill, and that many perfons were fo deep in
the dark, that it was impoffible to dilcover their
traces. For himfelf, he was no party to that refer.
vation ; nor wa♦ he privy to the Minute of Council,
to which fuch ltrong exception had been taken, but
he was aftor.ifhed that either of thefe fhould be al-
figned as the caufe of difmiffal. Surely, it would be
time enough for his Majefty to remove the perfons
who had fubmitted this reprefentation to him, in
what they conceived to be a confcientions difcharge
of their duty, when he found that they brought for-
ward fuhjeds which were difagreeable to him. A
Noble Earl had Rated, that his Majefly had no other
advifer on this orcafion than his confctence, and that
if an addrefs fhould be voted, no other anfwer could
be given. Should any filch ant %er be given—fhould
it be laid that it was a monition—that was a quef-
tion to he fettled in the large Hall adjacent and not
. there. Much had been faid • about the Coronation
Oath. He was no friend to the Bill, but it never
entered his mind that the Coronation Oath had any
thing to do with ir. What was the Coronation Oath ?
Was the Coronation Oath only confined to the
Church ? Did not his Majefly fwear to govern ac-
cording to the laws and conftitution of the Realm,
and was it part of the Conflitution to require a
pledge ? He denied that this was the Aft of the
Xing. It Mould not be permitted to be faid that the

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thing was wron,.and then that the King 1.6
To reafon in this way, was little lets than-1.
He trolled, that there never would bra copsnu.
in Ireland ; but if there was, that the people woo.
recolleet what his Majefty had done for them. We
lived in fearful times. He hoped for the deliverance
of Europe; he hoped that the power of that man,
rwho had fhaken half the thrones in Europe, was on
the wane; he trolled that the brave Ruffians would
keep him at bay where he was. One Petition from
the Catholics had been rejected; another might (hare
the fame fate ; a third might be put under the table,
but were they to have no peefpeeive view ? Were
they to be told, let who will be Minifters, you never
can have any hope of redrefs. He could not fuppofe
his Majelly delivering a bill of fare to his Minifters;
(hewing to them the minutes of the Council, and raying
to them. .!g keep clear of that rock, and you are fafe.
But the Coallitution is not fafe. With regard to the
Catholic queftion, as it was called, he would confefs
that in its molt extenfive fignification he was noifriend
to it. There was no man more devoted to true faith
and religion than he was. He confidered the Refor-
mation as one of the greaten benefits that Providence,
-in its bounty, had ever difpenfed to mankind. It pot
an end to the fuperitilions of the Catholic religion,
and did more by that means towards enlightening
mankind, than philofophy had ever been able to ef-
feet. He never wifhed to fee a revival of the ages of
bigotry, intolerance, and fupernition, and he there-
fore felt it to be his duty to oppofe whatever had a
tendency to reftore them. It was upon thefe prrn
ciples that he was oppofed to the introduction of
this act. He would not fay that his oppolition might
n ht be the refult of the prejudice of his education.—
What his Majelly raid to him on this or on any other
occafion, was fpoken as to a wall. He would riot be
guilty of the indecorum of ever alluding to it, even
tor the purpofe of removing the grofs mifreprefenta-
tions and mifconceptions which exitled with refpea
to this bufinefs. The Royal power he confidered as
the key none of the arch of the Conftitution. When
the King falls, every thing falls with him—individu-
als, orders, eftablifhments, nay, the (late and confli-
lotion themfelves. He would give his vote for the
queftion, and his thanks to the Noble Marquis who
Ihrought it forward. It would ill become him to fay
any thing of that Admininration of which he com-
p/Ad fo humble a part. The public had, he believed'
derived fame advantages from its labours, and he
was perfuaded that their difmitlal was not feen with-
out Tome (hare of regret.
The Earl of JERSEY fupporred the motion. He
was furprifed at the alarm which-had beenitoo fuccefs.
fully excited on this queftion. The very principle
which it was now endeavoured to beat down was ap-
proved of by molt of the Members of the prefent Go-
vetnment.
Lord HA RROWBY obferved, that the only docu-
ments which their Lordfhips had on this occafion,
were verbal declarations, reports of the febnance of
minutes not before the Houfe, and the refolts of the
impreffions of converfations. Upon fuch frail and
uncertain authorities, it would be an as of no ordi-
nary imprudence to decide, whether any pledge bad
'been required, whether any had bten given, or to fay
that the Minifters were right, and that the King was
in the wrong ! The point was one of the utmoft deli-
cacy, inelastic!) as it affetted the perfonalconfequence
of the Sovereign. There never was an occafion on
which greater precifion was required. He would call
the attention of their Lordfhips to the progrefs of the
Bill. Firft, the meafure was brought forward as part
of the Mutiny Bill. Was that, he would afk, to com.
prehend the Navy alfo, and to cover the meafure
which was afterwards brought forward ? It was Paid
to be a continuance of the engagement made in 1793,
yet when coupled with the nature of the notice given
and with the Bill itfelf, nothing could be more diffe-
rent. The principle of the meafure did not appear to
have been ever rightly undernood- It was hated to be
to remove Come ieftrielions, and retain others. But was
this explained to his Majefty ? It was known his Ma-
jelly did not fo underhand it : It was known the
Irifh Government did not fo underhand it. It was
known feveral Members in the Cabinet, particularly
a Noble Vifcount in his eye (Lord Sidmouth) did
not fo underhand it, and that if they did they would
have oppofed it. All the explanations" which he
had heard on this fubjet were unfatisfaaory. The
Noble Lord who was fuppofed to know molt about
it, did not fay that he had his Majefty's confent to
the left mealtime, but that the original content, which
was given to a much more limited meafure, had not
been withdrawn. Had they not, he would afk, a
written declaration, all thal time in their poffeffion,
from his Majefly, in which it was fated that he could
not go one Rep fatther than the Irifh AH ? Was it to
be inferred from thence, that he would go much far-
ther, and was his confent to be implied from his dif-
approbation ? His Majelly, it was evident, declared
his decided difapprobation of the meafure. Was it
therefore furpriling that having once done fo, he did
not embrace every opportunity of repeating it ?
When implications of content were thus inferred, it
was natural that his Majelly fhould require for him-
fell and his confcience Tome refpite. As to the Co-
ronation Oath, he would not oppofe his opinion to
that of the Noble and Learned Lord. The inter-
pretation of that mull reit in his Majelly's own breaft.
He could not agree to thofe panegyrics which were
pronounced refpeaing the merits of the late Admi-
ninration. When he looked to their diftribution of
the naval and military force ; to the many expedi-
tions they had fitted out ; to their orders and counter
orders; to their foreign policy ; to their efforts to
affi ft that corner of Europe firuggling for its exinence;
to their negociation with France, which had no pa.
relict but their negociation with the King, he could
not perceive any very ftrong proofs that they en-
groffed, as it was Paid, all the talents, wildom, and
confideration of the country ! He did not fear that
the country would fupport the prefent Adminillre-
tion. When the. queftion was properly undernond,
when the principles upon which they accepted office
were fully explained, he was perfuaded they would
meet with ample fupport. The prefent Minihers Rood
forward for their King, andwith their King theywould
Rand or fall.
The Earl of SELKIRK (poke generally againft
the motion. He condemned the indifcretion of his
Majefty's late Minifters, in bringing, forward a mea-
1-ore which his Majelly had declared from the begin-
ning he felt a reluctance in acceding to, and (aid. he
thought they had (hewn themfelves equally injudi-
cious in the manner in which they had conduaed the

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.4tefs. He expreffed hit. ditaprenbation
..ay fit which the late Minifiets had declared
.ir intention of bringing the Catholicoitrellion to-
asted from time to time, and giving their advice
thereon. It was certainly proper that' Minitlers flufuld
give their advice to his Majefly on all fubje&t of im-
portance, hut this quetlion was of a nattereirhich
preffed in f peculiar a manner on his Majefty's mind,
and on which he had always fhewn himlelf fo tender
on account ofhis Coronation-oath. that he thought
they fhould have a6Rained from preffing it on his Ma-
jetty, except only in a cafe of ablolute neceffity. He
thought the maxim of the Conftitution, that " the
King can do no wrong," was a very good one ; it
laid down this plain doctrine, that his Majeßy cannot
do any thing without a public advifer, and this doc-
trine applied to him very properly in all public acts
of government. Any thing he did in that capacity
was not fuppofed to emanate from himfelf, but from
fame perfon who advifed him to it. He was of opi
nion however, that it was impoflible their Lordfhips
fhould think of adopting a Parliamentary proceeding,
founded on an aft which it was impotlible Parliament
fhould precifely know fo as to form a fair and candid
judgment on it. The public were certainly in pof-
fellion of the faB, that a pledge had been required,
but without knowing why this pledge- had been de-
manded. It mull be neceffary to Mk, what was the
objet of the motion ? There could be no doubt that
befoie this unfortunate difouffion took place, .it ap-
pealed clear to all that the late Minifiers-pcsffeffed
the united confidence of the King and the Country.
After the objetlions made by his Majetly, and the.
refervation which had been given in by the late Mi.
nillers, it was impoffible they could any longer pot.
fefs the confidence of the King. He had no doubt
but the public were well aware of the great talents
of the late Miniliers ; but he was certain that they,
as well as he, could never have fuppofed they would
have aged with fo much indifcretion. He ahought
therefore, that taking all circumflances under his fe-
rious confideration, there could be no occafion for
the prefent motion. He mull call it to the recollec-
tion of their Lnrdfhips, that one of the moll impor-
tant of his Majefty's prerogatives was that of chu-
Ling his own fervent.. His Majeßy had lately ex-
ercifed that undoubted and undenied right, and had
called the prefent Minillers to his Councils. Thefe
Minifters were as yet untried, and he thought they
ought to have an opportunity of Chewing how they
would conduit themfelves. It had been affunted
that this difmilfal of Minifiers had been the refult of
opinions, proceeding from onions who fecretly ad
vifed his Majetly to the adoption of a meafure for
which there was no one who was refponfible. He
did not fee any reafon to fuppofe this was the cafe.
His Majeßy appeared to have afted on an impulfe,
which dictated ftrong.ly to him the neceffity of not
having his mind continually haraffed by a repetition
of a meafure to which he felt fo much reluaance—
and after the reprefentation which had been given
in, he had no fecurity of that not being the cafe, but
in obtaining the pledge that had been required—that
not having been complied with, he could place no
further confidence in men fo determined, and made,
therefore, a choice of thole, whore principles and con-
duit he thought fuch as would relieve him from thofe
vexations which the repetition of this particular fob.
jai could not fail to export him to. For thefe rea-
fons he fhould vote againft the motion.
Lord BORRINGDON Paid, he thought the refo-
lution propnfed was much too algae and indefinite,
and as loch he fhoold, before he fat down, make a
motion for the purpofe of getting rid of it without
coming to any refolution on the fubjea. The latter
part of it, he thought, was a kiad of furprize on the
Houle, and he was cf opinion that none of it was
called for by any circumftances which could induce
the Houle to come to any refolution. It was in his
mind a propofition which their Lordlhips ought to
entertain with much caution, as it related fo very
nearly and particularly to the perfonal condua of the
King. A pledge had been required from his Majefty's
late Minifters, refpeaing the bringing forward a par-
ticular queftion ; and it had been affumed that the
prefent Miniflershad entered into Come fuch pledge.
He believed, however, from the declaration of the
Noble Secretary of State below him, that no fuch
pledge had been given by the prefent Minifters.-
-Indeed, there could be no occafion for asking it, for
they had never litewn themlelves favourable to the
Catholic quell ion. He was alfo adverfe to the pro.
poled Refolution on another ground. He did not
think it would be binding on the Houfe. Their Lord-
fhips would recollea, that in the reign of (kneen Eli-
zabeth, that Houfe came to a refoluuon, while at war
with Spain, that the. country should make no peace
with.a prince of the Houfe of Bourbon, yet the Qiiieen
and her Minifters made peace very loon afterwards,
and the refolution of the Houle was fo much ware
paper, and no more. He was ready to abfolve the
late Minifters from the imputation which had been
charged upon them, with haYing attempted to force
ou the King any meafure that militated againfl his
feelings or his confcience ; but he could not abfolve
them from negligeme and inattention in the mode in
which they had cond select themfelves. He adverted
particularly to the uncertainty and ambiguity con-
tained in the Irifh Difpatch, and thought them
blameable in endeavouring to obtain his Majefty's
opinion through the medium of a draft of a dif-
patch. He thought, if the Noble Lord at the bead
of the late Adminifiration had openly and candidly
communicated dirtaly with his Majeßy on this
important and delicate fubjea, the late mifunder-
ftanding could not have happened. As to the pledge
about which fo much had been Paid, he would afk,
whether, under all the circumßances which had been
Rated, it was very extraordinary the King fhould re-
quire fuch a fecurity to his peace of mind, and to the
dictates of his confcience, after the reprefentation
which had been given by the late Minißers ; and
that, after a refufal of fuch pledge, his Majeßy
fhould be defirous and anxious to look for other fcr.
vants who would not treat him in a fintqar manner.
What did the late Minifters fay tefpeaingthis pledge?
Why, that it was not fit to be given ; they introdu-
ced, therefore, the refervation, as a fort of counter-
poife, and by fo doing made it in Come degree in-
cumbent upon his Majeßy to call to his Councils
other men, with whom he could aft more in unifon.
It had been more than once infinuated, that this
change had, beep brought about by ferret advifers.—
It did not, however, appear br the nutmeat made
by the Noble Lord (Grenville) before the recefs,
that even the fmallett infiuuation could ever be made

that the King had aged in this manner by the ed„
vice of any perEnn whatever. Much had been {lid
its to the effed;This wouid have on the Roman CA.
tholics of Ireland : he hoped, however, that why
that body of men rtfleded on the many difabilities
which had been removed by the gracious favour and
' rosalterceallon of his prefent Majetly, who had, from
the commencement of his reign, (hewn himfelf deQ.
eons to ad as far as poffible fo r their relief, they
would remember this gracious regard to their fitua.
Lion, and would not be angry when they fay their
complaints were not fet afide from any cabal, but
that they would accordingly conform themfelves in
fuch a manner, as to evince that they have a true
fenfe of their own cafe, and are convinced that no
intention remains in his Majefty but to maintain the
oath he had taken at his Coronation. Feeling that
the motion included a ~perfonal- inculpation of the
King for the exercife of bti, undoubted prerogative,
he could by maims affent, tolt, and would there.
fore conclude by moving, 41 that the Houfe do now
adjourn." . -
The quellioa hawing been read froni the- woolfack,
Lord KINNAIRD laid, he was fomewhat fur
prifed and forty to hear the fentiments exprefred in
the Noble Lord's fpeech, but more particularly the
latter part of it, in which he Paid that the Catholics
would not be angry when they faw their complaint:
were ddramovled to.from any intrigue or cabal, but
that they mult folely attribute it to the will of his
Majefty. This, bethought, was not the happieft
way of reconciling that large bbegy of men to the
oppofition made to their claim", nor of conciliating
`their affedioni, which had been weakened by re.
peatod difappointraents. The Noble Lord had told
their- Lordiltipo, that he objeded to the Itcfolu.
tion becaukit_ukkLaraa..4aawbinding.; and he hg
quoted an inilance of 'a Refolution paired by the
Houle about two centuries ago, that they would not

make peace with a Prince of the Houfe of Bourbon,
though the Queen and her Minifters did very fool'
after make peace with a Prince of that Houle. He
did not fee how this applied at all to the prefent cafe,
or why,. if a Refolutiun of former times had been
departed from, and thereby rendered of no avail,
thd Houle fluuld not, at a fubfequent period of time,
pafs any Refutation which a prefent cafe might re-
quire. The Noble Lord then addreffed himfelf to
the Earl of Selkirk, and exprefred himfelf truly and
fincerely lorry to perceive that Noble Earl had become
fo eafy a convert to the rapport of his Majefty's pre-
fent Minifters ; and that he had exerted thole great ,
talents for which he (Lord Kinnaird) had fo red
a refpei in calling for the confidence of the H'onfef
on the ground that thofe new Minifters were untried
Much as he refPeeted the Noble Earl, and highly ar
he valued his talents, he could not, however, agret
with him in that particular, of their being untried.—
If he looked to the Noble Duke at the head of the
prefent Adminiftration, no one could fay he was un-
tried. He had been in repeated Adminiftrationc,
none of which had effc&ed any verygreat advantages to
their country during their continuance. Uhe looked
to the Noble Secretary of State for the Home De-1
partment, he ton well knew the effea his former di-
plomatic cordua had had on all our Allies, to draw
li any favourable concluons from it ; and that if ie
did not aflame a more favourable afpeet, it could
not fail to merit Al the wit and humour which his
Right Hon. Colleague, the prefent Foreign Secre-
tary', had then fo profofely bellowed upon it. if he
looked to the Noble Lord at the head of the War and
Colonial Department, he had given fuch Rriking
fpecimens of the verfatility of his genius, that ke
might fafely be fet down as a (offering, careful and
attentive guardian, to whom you may, without rifle,
commit the care of the virtue and talents of the pre.
fent Adminiftration. A Noble Lord, who had fpo.
ken laa but one, fpeaking of the talents of the late
Minifters bad Aced, in a kind of triumphant ton;
what 44 all the talents" had done for the fervice of
the _country ? He, for his own part, thought the
queftion molt readily anfwered, and highly to the
credit and honour of the late Adminiftration. In
point of economy, he had ever found them ready to
lien to all perfons who were &firm and capable of
pointing out any retrenchments. In regard to difpatok
of bufinefs, he had teen none equal to them, for they
had brought the public bufinefs to a degree of foe-
wardnefs that was unexampled. That Noble Lord had
alto talked of expeditions planned by the late Mini.
(lets. He was, however, the laft perfon in the world
who fhould talk of expeditions to the Continent, when
he recolleCled and maturely confidere4 the mad ex•
pedition to which he had been himfelf aparty ; bur,oi
the fubjeift of expeditions, he would tell the Nohk
Lord, that if one of the greatelt Powers on the Cos•
tinent, if Turkey were at this moment at the feet of thit
country, loch a glorious event was owing to the wile,
politic, and fpirited meafures of the lateAdminifta•
tion. He could fay the fame as to Monte Video; and
he Ready feared the next thirteen months wouhlnotbe
matted by any filch fplendid and important acquire-
ments from the combined talents and wifdom of the
new and untried Miniftry. He was extremely forty
to find that attempts had been made to roufe thee(.
forts of bigotry and fuperftition, and to re-kinclie
the flames of religious animofities. If there were
thofe now in being who would carry thole baneful and
deftrullive paffions into the very bofom and feats of
learning, and would with to revive the brilliant el.
ploits of the dark and barbarous ages, let the effedi
to be produced by them reft on their own heads. This,
he believed, was the firft time that fecret advifers had
brought on the downfal of an Adminiftration which
enjoyed the confidence of the country, fence the time
or that great Statefman Lord Chatham, who had
declared, 44 there was a power behind the Throne,
greater than the Throne itfelf." Yet before his
Adminiftration was in a (*traitor manner overturned,
that great and immortal charaaer bad laid the foun-
dation of drawing into the jervice of the country a
large body of the fobjelts °Mee State, againfl whom
as many and as violent prejudices exikd as do now
exift againft the Catholics of Ireland. During a long
time antecedent to his glorious Admini(ltation, the
war-whoop and cry of the country had been loudly
and conftantlyraifed againft the Jacobitesin the North
of Scotland. When that illuftrious Statefman came
into office, he found the army in a (late of decay—
and how did he raife it ? Not by fomenting the pre-
judices which were then fo prevalent, but by calling
thole very Jacobites into the fervice. He from their
ranks recruited the ranks of the army ; and a braver
or more loyal let of men never fought with more
energy and conitancy the battle, of their country.

OD