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London, England, 1831-07-16 00:00:00

REVORM..

Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that the House do re-
solve Lael:lnto R Committee on the Reform Bill.
The HOURe rcsolved itself into the Committee.

Mr. SPRING RICE in the Chair.
The CHAIRMAN read the first Clause, That each of
the Boroughs enumerated in Schedule A be disfranchised.
Sir A. AGNEW suggested that the Boroughs in Sche-
dule A should be united with those in Schedule B, which
then should rctum two members, so that no disfranchisement
should take place ; but merely an union of small boroughs.
He moved that the electors of the boroughs in Schedule A
should have a share in the election of representatives in Par-
liament u hereinafter provided.
Mr. WEYLAND supported the motion as a reformer.
He was not willing to sacrifice the franchise of his consti.
tuents, unless it was shown to be neeeessry to the success of
the bill. He thought it impossible that mane large places
would be long satisfied with one member. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. C. FERGUSON said, that he would oppose the plan
laid down in the hon. baronet's amendment, and support
the original clause proposed for schedule A. He could not
understand how the hon. but. had come to vote for the se-
cond reading of the bill Much had been said about being
pledged to the bill, the whole bill, and nothing but the bill; ,
but it would seem that however the hon. baronet had stood
pledged, that he was not for any portion of the
amendment was entirely a new measure. The hon. member,
in alluding to the proposition of not disfranchising any one
borough, but to combine two or three into one franchise
he said was quite opposite to the intention of the mea-
sure. He denied that any disfranchisement contemplated
by the Bill was abridging the rights of the people. He had
carefully examined the returns, and he found that there
existed twenty boroughs, which sent into the House forty
Members, and in all these twenty boroughs there were only
ninety-four houses. He said that whatever cutting down
of boroughs was embraced by the Bill, was to improve the
representation, by extending the franchise more generally ;
and lie hoped, likewise, that from what bad already been
admitted of the deceptions practised in the census just taken,'
Ministers would not depart from the return of 1821, as it
was a most just criterion to act upon.
Sir A. AGNEW and Mr. C. FERGUSON explained.
Mr. GURNEY supported the amendment. He considered
that the bill was omens:tuitional. He believed that the
Members sent in by the little boroughs had more consistently
opposed the Ministers than any other representatives in that
house. He wished the franchise to be extended, and not to
be monopolized by any class of the community. He would
vote against the entire disfranchisement of any borough
whatever.
Lord ALTHORP said, he had conceived that if the vote
of last night meant any thing, it was that the House should
forthwith proceed to consider the boroughs under the pro-
vision of the clause in schedule A ; now this amendment was
an entirely new proposition, a new bill. He was of opinion
that it was necessary to disfranchise close boroughs, as they"
were contrary to the constitution of the country. He objected
to putting two or three boroughs together, as that would not
give the franchise to the people, but would merely throw it
into the hands of a few borough proprietors. The only
plain and simple course was to adopt the principle of the
Bill. He should vote against the proposition of the Hon.
Bart.

Sir A. AGNEW rose to explain,and said that he thought
the principle of the Bill too plain and simple.
Mr. C. WYNN said tney nad been told by the noble lad
that the principle of the bill was to disfranchise all nomina-
tion boroughs, but if such was the case, he (Mr. Wynn)
could not make a distinction between the schedules A and
B, for there were several in the latter which were brown to
be nomination boroughs, and yet they would not be dis-
franchised. He instanced several boroughs which would
thus be exempted. although they were well known to be
nomination boroughs, and where bribery had been detected,
in particular Penryn, where, he said, eruption was root-''
eel, and other boroughs would be disfranchised against'
which no crime bad been alleged. He would not stop to in-
quire whether the quulificadon of 10kwould be a preveadveof
corruption, or whether, on evidence being taken, it might not
be shown that among that class corruption had been most
profligate (hear, bear, from the opposition), but be was con-
',hind that the present bill would have the effect of making
some boroughs that were now open completely closed. He
bad not yet heard any good reason advanced why boroughs
should be disfranchised, and it hhad been said at first that
the principle of the bill would not act as a punishment,
then why should so many suffer who are guiltless ? The
hon. gentleman went into a long dissertation on the nature
of nomination boroughs, and said that he considered them
disadvantageous to the country, for he considered it a great
safeguard that representatives should have to face a body of
constituents.

Mr. Alderman VENABLES said he would oppose the
amendment of the hon. bast. He considered that members
who had given their pledge to the bill were bouud to sup-
port it. It was no uncommon thing for constituents to ask
a pledge on any great question, and it was equally common
for candidates to give such a pledge. Hon. gentlemen must
recollect that during the time the Catholic question was
pending, every candidate had been asked for a pledge either
on one side or other of that question. Of course it rested
with the candidate whether or not he would give the pledge
required ; and for his part if a pledge had been asked of him,
opposed to his own opinion, he would rather have given up
his constituents than have abandoned his opinion. It might be
said by some, that although they had been pledged to a
measure, they were not pledged to paticular details; but
this question had been so tar investigated as to be sulliciently
understood. His Majesty bad dissolved Pianism, and
had taken the sense of the country. The camseespedsion
that had been maintained on subjects where the peeves sp.
pealed, was to as make up your minds as to what it is yes
want, and then ParlitunenteumisEinterfere. They had dear
so, and the measure was *admitted. er twenty-
five years measures of edema Yea Mammies, and he
(Alderman Veathke) wished hew it was that analog all
that time they bad sever Meat at way at dates measures
that were now instanced by the hem _ ewes& te the
bill. The worthy Wakeman psomemdeimodetegthe ili
of Lord John Russell in his awed eteemple So artymile ;ast!
liamestary Reform, in which be *hewed W imam that in
each attempt he fell off in support, mad had the
against him increased. In his lest Mawr la UMI,It
the smallest number on his aide, and the gessiest meiedtyii
and, subsequently, it bad begs beim" that Refine was
requisite. The worthy Alamos ass Amid to the esu
cessions now offered by shin TIFINIIIII3O9IIII to large towns
and to lease the rest of as system edge, bat be rembeded
them of what had takes place when Bust lletferd tree
franchised ; and that he said had tithed the mind et the
people entirely. The washy Alchemies sgatheded his speeds
with declaring that the Bill should bate hishearty sappers
Sir J. MALCOLM said that Minima having as elm-
plete • majority on their side, they amid havemetheire to
take advantage of any point of (lithium that might dist
at the moment. It was desirable that the easstry *add be
thoroughly satisfied on the Incase* for may lett elk wee
important. And such he knew tells
that however small the minority might be, *a Baer=
be attended to, and the voices el et WIN ass.
sidered as much entitled to be thawed as as many hundred
thousands. He was waylaid the* the melerity was great
in the casualty, that was emimigible hem what bad been
evinced as the emu dodoes, mil that these esissed a gas
sequin eniMmint. But be esmitheed enth essmiss es
safety edges te the Mats (A ) Ifesmy gasedegs, mei
all tams kind ef Mmemedime he held
valves, gad be theight that they might am to be
Inn that army stage distal had *gas that the bet
nes beaded away Wray snub esibmasst; giber Mond
ma gay palpitate gnaw% ity Wads sthermade repo it.
Every part the thedd be eamisd, and fully dig-
ested. He emit
.ass andeglend why any bea. member
shed/ be emniesd, bums he had mad for the amid
res et the NI, midi bed ethasere did he farther
eminiegea. (Nam hoar) Ms theist* than it was the
rend peaty d eves, Witham to thesissely egrets
elludilmille In tbst hem Nit) Bach were hie ems
kip, Id he would What bebilhis went gitamithiliga
editeglis ebbs smithy Aligneme The hal Jam em tietea•
(A high these the Oggeitilm) Bs was tee di, idthn

bat a young Member, to be dfected by existing rAcittr,
—he would not be elevated by applause, nor discouragtd'i'l
*mini. It was the duty of every Minister to disturb ?
little as posslblo the constitution of the country. He i.:
heard that the present Government were pledged :0 the ir
in all its ; if this was the awe he would be ~,,'
sorry, for he thought that they might have effected ti,;,
purpose by adjustment, without adopting any ertleeei..
OD either side. He would support the amendment 1
Mr. S. WORTLEY thonghtthat &misconception exi,44
regarding the vote of last night. The vote of lan Melt 14
considered was not that they were to proceed to disfranebi,
the boroughs of scheduk A, but that they should proe‘ed„,
deal with them as they were there classed. He admitted
and quoted acts in proofs, that the three estates of the en:
stitution—the King, Lords, and Commons—had the 110 A,
to disfranchise. In Scotland their ancestors had prefema,
when they remodelled its constituency, uniting borottA, i.
districts to disfranchisement. In Wales the bill alli„;
boroughs of a few hundred inhabitants to be unttttl to :
Notown at ten or twelve miles' distance. (11,„.:
No asked that a similar mercy be extended to borough, !:
' siedule A. He had spoken reluctantly, but he consiad,...
the le a just one, and imputations and oblow
taut.,.
eat him from supporting it. (Cheer..) •
TIM ADVOCATE said, the motion of tile;
hoer his • he (Mr. Wynn) for postrniog ,
first douse, Ambled the principle of disfranrhiseitebb
Tim voodoo olds* member for Tamworth last night, 4 i;
meant any thing, turned upon whether boroughs under .1011
inhabitants should be disfranchised. Was it fair to renew:,
1 creation repeatedly decided ? (Hear.) No extension of tb:
tight of voting, amongst the places in question, co.:!*
eradicate the poison of nomination. If by such erten:kr,
influence was destroyed in each of them, the est.
junction was unnecessary; if not destroyed, eorjuo„
don would be of no avail. How could the conjuee.
tion of nomination boroughs destroy nomination ? no
there would be opposite interests, and they might ncutriet
each other. It might be, but none of these opposite intern
were the interests of the people (hear). Suppose tb
patrons: two might neutralise each other, and the
would return the member; or two might coalesce, and ow.
come their single opponent ; or they might all three agree:.
take the nomination in rotation. Had they not herd of ir..
stances of this? (hear.) This fantastic combination was tr.
innovation on the constitution ; disfranchisement was Lot.

Mr. CHOKER hoped his side of the house would
longer be accused of protracting the debate. The !camel
lord rose to tell them there was occasion for no speech at ail,
and proceeded to make a speech himself. (A laugh.) lie
was sorry they should have come to the fourth night of tilt
committee, without the learned lord's knowing what bad beta
done. The motion of the member for Montgomeryshire rt.
fated to whether enfranchisement should precede disfranchise,
meat. Had that any relation with the uuion of boroughs:
The mover meant that the measure of disfranchisement
was arbitrary, doubtful, and might be made dependant
on the principle of enfranchisement. (Hear, hear, hear)-.
With respect to the vote of last night, the hon. batomt.
who shoeld know his own motives, had voted with him (tha
Lord Advocate) on that motion. (Hear, Hear.) That mo.
Lion decided whether there should be any disfianchiserew
at all ; but it hi.d not been decided to what extent (Miran.
chistment should go. (Hear, hear, bear. It was now moved
that disfranchisement should operate to a certain extent, sad
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not totally. The learned lord called the proposed mode
new add fantaadeal. Why, it was in the bill. (Loud crit,
of hear.) Deal and Sandwich, and several others were
thus fantastically united. (Hear.) Had the motion bees
delayed, they would have beard the learned lord defend.
lug the fantastical union clause, as the hopes and oh&
don of the empire. (klaugh.) The learned lord bad fa.
gotten the speech he had risen to answer. His honourable
Mad's argument was, that the new antstituency being ad.
witted into the boroughs of Schedule A, the junction he
=liwould do away with the only difference between the
gehds of Schedules A and 8, viz. the difference the the
amount of such constituency, and would render fkhedulsA
as independent as Schedule B. (Loud ales of bear.) Hie
argument always supposed that the constituency of Schedule
• was not to remain the same as heretofore. He troth
dee the instance of Aldborough, a borough with which he
was connected. Aldborough was to be disfranchised, barb/
ad y twelve or fourteen hundred inhabitants ; Melton wee
to be retained. Melton bad not a sufficient number of elec.
tidal bemoan. The Commissioner, would have to describe a
beget elide sound it than round Aldborougb, to inelde
the required lumber of 101. householders. Aldborargi,
such number being completed, would be independent; would
any one sa Melton would be? (Cheers.) He (Mr. Cooker)
would not have thought of this fantastical plan of union.
ship, but finding it in the Bill, he clung to it an a prindpie,
small indeed, but still a principle of preservation. (Lad
cheers.)
Mr. D. W. HARVEY was surprised to had the tom
site side, after the manifold delays offered to the bill, start
up anti accuse hon. gentlemen of protracting the debate, sod
wilfully doing so, the moment they happened to extend their
arguments in order to convince their (the oppositioniste) ob.
emu and prejudiced understandings. The motion militated
maw the principles of the bill, (the extinction of mains.
thin boroughs,) declaring that no borough should cease to
enjoy the elective privilege. Ministers, if they bad tomcat
the bill, might undoubtedly make certain alterations, as they
had already done. (Hear, from the opposition.) However
acute and statesman-like they might be—(ob, oh, oh) he
did not judl;e them by the standard of the statesmen oppo-
site, who, when they came to explain their amendments,
made them appear to have no sense at all. He spoke of
them as ministers who had merited the patitude of their
country. He said, however Intelligent they might be, lila
the suggestions coming from the press and other quarters,
they might, had they to re-cad the bill, make seaseshas.
dons. But the present modes lovolved a pried pie *aided
by the country and saadioned by the house. It woaMgive
them a constituency of seashomee loomed of deem
It was this that the Leaned Lord bed depailled, after Om
auellent speech, if it had been head Modestly, say sue
mold have blushed to speak. (Oh I) We mull have
candidates seeking to conciliate patrons, inand if_ *emir,
sod making professions in the drawing-mom, thelosel eian
the buntings. (Hear.) There were some dorm sir which
' be did not approve—(hear, from the Oppeehlea)—be elm&
have wished them more popular; ler lastmos, that oil
pieces should be refused the franchise whisk bed not owe
thawed electors. But why should*, seal Meads of tr•
foes, that is of the bill—(cheers)—dnow impodiramo in the
way of Ministers ? Had they not milldsnt obousho, bath
natural and artificial, enough of ommies, both spa ma
secret, without having also to surwesum the scruples of
their friends ? He hoped Ministers midi stand dm to the
principle of the Schedule, without awing lie ths plausible
statements, nor for the taunts of the opposite side, so allow
them the triumph of arriving at Standey without the &-
strut:dm in a whole week of one rotten borough.—
(Cheers.)
Mr. BARING denied this the motion had reference to
the principle of the Bill. Ho biped they would not be do
tarred from =sir
tehat =sum& bsprovemesua,whiht
the Mechlin at some subsequent stage
of the billassees the amendmom to whisk he had alluded
How mold ehe learned lord call the
joaotior of bt fantail* whim dare were such ex-
Mtisuof it la also, and is the 818 itself? Conjointly
tbo new moadtuency, it would mainly destroy nosh
aidos. Supposing it did as tioseroyit as tofu, still the so.
Ye lord bad no right to compiled, for his own line of door•
swim did not include all the nomination boroughs (Neel
Ltd J. RUSSELL thought that the Committee could
alt pies mode reliance on ths amselimest that bad beta
0.81 does the mover and the smudge of it differs&
ales.--(llear, hear.) He did we know boy
It mid be adopted—except by dam who were spiel'
4 mien ; and as the plot biased at by the mows
fad rismader were so inesumissa he most comide
Neat deem who voted far de ammsbount would be.
se be bad observed, against all rdsna.—(Hear.) lie
um reedy, however, to admit that do object of the Inner
W ese Teesa delay, that he did met seek to defeat the Bill
by the INlSlldowat ; but be thought it was quite:Lin watible
fir do Cimoidlos to woe with thee, the MPH FOCI.
phi Of width they aeM set ow As to the plan of )0101
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that was pm Met. ; sad if It could bo disiod, whitlows
would there be of paved', tots m ipso stir
at thew boroughs dubbimg tellable, and thus laMir:
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ed that this ammelenent raised the
question of total se pined cwt? As to the
mums of de bon. neerabee he Olialeue (bk. A W. Hot
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an amoodaust gemeally was to mho the dim woos,
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—dint of trying to efeet the less object when they could not
Achieve the greater. As to the principle of compensation for
disfranchising boroughs it was not without precedent; but
it was not one that he intended to propose should be fol-
lowed. (Hear, and a laugh.)
Me. VRESHFIELD (amidst loud calls of question) said
he was sorrry that it had been deemed necessary to allude so
particularly to Penryn; but he felt bound to say, that he
'..new :o open borou2h more free from corruption than was
Penrya. (Hear.) He felt a grateful recollection towards
Penryn for having twice returned him, and he deemed it to
be only ..n act of justice to state what he believed to be the
truth. (Hear.)
Mr. STANLEY complimented the fairness and candour
that had characterised all the opposition of the right hon.
7)aronet (Sir E. Peel.) He set forth his opposition with
.emper and fairness—that was the true course, and it was
_lien for the supporters of the bill to overcome them if they
.-oubl. 1 his amendment was supported because it presented
'he less evil. But what was presented as the less evil was
lot very clear, and he certainly saw very considerable ob.
ections and difficulties to the proposed plan of congregating
:ogetber several boroughs—of purifying the representation by
uniting Gatton and Old Samm—the propriety of acquiescing
:n such union he thought might be very safely left with the
committee and the country. (Hear.)
Sir GEORGE CLERK contended that it would be per-
fectly practicable to congregate the boroughs, and added that
hz doubted not it would be shown that Appleby ought not
to be retained in schedule A. He disliked the principle of
total disfranchisement, and therefore he should support the
amendment. (Loud cries of question.)
Mr. CA MP ELL gave an account of the elections at Old
Saturn, and observed, that to return the members, the pro.
pr ewe sent down six or seven of his friends in " a post-
chaise." (Loud laughter.) They bad nothing to do with the
place. and could such persons be mu‘h consoled by being
joitvd with Gatton ? (Hear, hear, and cries of question.)
Sit It. INGLIS approved of the amendment. He con.
dtnnted the bill ; and as to the fame that would belong to
the bill, it would be as imperishable as that of the man who
fired the Ephesian dome. (Cheers, laughter, and cries of
question.) He supported the amendment, because he would
choose the less of two evils.
Sir A. AGNEW replied. fie begged it to be observed
that he was the first member who had recognized schedule
A, and he thought that the plan of uniting boroughs would
be very beneficial. (Cries of question, loudly repeated,
amidst which strangers were ordered to withdraw. When
in committee the members divide in the house ; and so eager
were they to divide, that before strangers were withdrawn,'
the said strangers were highly amused with beholding the
members rushing in crowds across the house.)
The numbers were—
For the original words
For the Amendment

Majority against the Amendment lll
On our re-admission into the Gallery, we found that Sir
E. SUGDEN was On his legs; but the purport of his ob-
servations could not be caught owing to the confusion in
the House, and the noise resulting from strangers rushing
into the Gallery.
The CHAIRMAN (Mr. S. Rice) put the question. So
much of the clause having been agreed to as act forth that
the boroughs included in Schedule A. should be disfran-
chised, tt was now open to the Committee to determine
what should constitute the said Schedule. He then pro.
ceeded to read the Schedule. The first name in the list
baring been read, " Aldborough (Suffolk.)"
Mr. CROKER rose, and he said he did so for the pur.
pose of opposing the continuation of Aldborough in Sche-
dale A; but he deemed it right to premise that he should
not propose to take any division on this borough. He
dreamt it due to the constituency of Aldborough, however,
to go into some details ; but as it was precisely in the situa-
tion of Appleby, he should now remark on both cases.
Lord J. RUSSELL interposed. Appleby was peculiarly
situated, and he therefore proposed that it should be the sub.
ject of separate discussion. He did not propose to go be.
yond the word " Aldborough" to-night ; he should postpone
Appleby till Tuesday.
Mr. CROKER said as that was the case he would post-
pone his observations till Tuesday, on the understanding
that he should not be excluded from then making such re-
marks as he might deem requisite on the case of Aldborough.
Lord J. RUSSELL, in reply to inquiry from Sir T.Pree.
mantle, was understood to state that in consequence of the
result of inquiries, it was proposed to take Buckingham out
of its present schedule, as had been done with several other
boroughs.
Sir H. HARDINGE mentioned that Launceston had, in.
eluding its five parishes, 4,600 inhabitants. That being the
case, it ought to be excluded from the Schedule.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, that its case, as well as that of
each borough, could be considered on their proceeding through
the enumeration.
Sir R. PEEL intimated that he proposed to take the
sense of the house on the first name that came clearly within
the line of two thousand inhabitants ; that would raise the
question of disfranchisement or no dishanchisement.
After a few words from Mr. KNIGHT and Lord VAL-
LETORT,
Mr. O'CONNELL said, there could be no doubt that
Aldborough was a nomination borough of the Marquis of
Hertford—as a rotten borough, he should vote for its extinc-
tior. (Hess.)
Sir R. PEEL said, if the principles of the Honourable
and Learned Gentleman were acted upon the population
returns might be thrown overboard altogether, as they would
form no test for disfranchisement.
After a few words from Sir JOHN MALCOLM,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER begged to
call the attention of the house to the question immediately
before it, namely, whether Aldborough was to be disfran-
chised or not.—(Hear.)
A conversation then took place between Mr. O'CortwaLL,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, Mr. AETWOoD, and Mr. SAM'S,
wht n

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose, and
moved that the Chairman do report progress, and ask leave
to sit again, upon which
Sir ROBERT INOLIS contended that Ministers had
not drawn the proper line respecting the boroughs which
were to be disfranchised.
After a protracted conversation between 31r.Croker, Lord
Althorp, Sir R. Peel, Sir Charles Wetherell, Mr. Sadler,
fir. Stanley, and Lord Milton, it was agreed that the bo-
'ough of Aldborough do remain part of the Bill.
The Chairman then reported progress, with leave to sit
•9ain on Tuesday.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
House adjourned at Two o'clock.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.
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GERMAN PAPERS.
AECEIVILD TIIII DAY.

IEN N A, JUL-Y-47—ACC01111-ta from Cracow,
received yesterday, announce that the cholera. has
broken out there with great violence, so that on
the first day, out of 68 persons who were seized
with the disorder 48 died. The accounts from
Lemberg are also very melancholy: the number
of new cases increased by a hundred, and above
half the cases were fatal. Symptoms of the
cholera have appeared also in Rieszow and Lancut.
The report that it had appeared in some counties
of Hungary, bordering on the Carpathian moun-
tains, happily proves to be unfounded.
CON STA NTINOPLE, JUNE 10.—For some days
past, we have been under great apprehensions that
the tranquillity of the city may be soon disturbed.
—The Sultan left the Capitol on the 2nd of this
month, only, as it was said, accompanying the fleet
to the Dardanelles. But the measures that have
been taken are of such a nature that, even if the
reports in circulation are unfounded, we may ex-11
,ct that the absence of the Sultan will be long.-1
!!ti has invested the Caimacon with extraordinary
Powers, and has taken with him the sons of many
t the most powerful of the great men here, as well
the seal of the empire, which is hitherto a cir-
unistance quite unparalled in the Ottoman history
in time of peace. But what excited the greatest
,pprdiension is the measures taken by the Dewlet
Naicri, (Director of the Police.) This officer, im-
mediately after the Sultan's departure, issued a
pr,elamation by which all public festivities, the
meeting of more than three persons in places of
Public resort, &c. are forbidden till further notice;
and every inhabitant is exhorted to be at home by

sun-set. To, this is added the report generally
spread yesterday, that the Sultan had landed at
Rodosto, and was about to proceed to the
army at Adrianople, and that the fleet had
not passed the Dardanelles, but had anchored
in the sea of Marmora. These circumstances
in some degree justify the conjecture, that
the active Sultan intends to carry into effect
great plans of reform, particularly the long reported
project of seizing the estates and revenues of the
Mosques and the Ulemas for the use of the State.
On this supposition the sons of the great men
whom the Sultan has taken with him, are consi-
dered as hostages, for the preservation of tranquil-
lity ; and it is believed that he is going to Adria-
nople, in order, in case of an insurrection, to be
able to act against the capital on one side with
the army, and on the other with the fleet, on which
be can depend.

The plagu e has now broken out at Smyrna. Our
Government, on receiving information of this
fact, has ordered that all vessels coming from the
Archipelago shall perform six days' quarantine at
St. Stephan. _ _

According to the latest accounts received her e
the Grand Vizier was at Ochrida, and Izzet Pacha
was ordered to Scutari to besiege Mustapha Pacha.
The squadron sent to blockade the coast of Alba-
nia had arrived at Dnrazzo.

BRODY, JUNE 20.—The cholera has almost
entirely disappeared from us : we were well ac-
quainted with the disorder by what we had heard
and learnt from the neighbouring Russian pro-
provinces. All the poorer classes here suffered
from it ; those who lived temperately, but had a suf-
ficiency of good food, wine, dressed in warm
clothing, and in clean airy rooms, were quite se-
cure from the disorder; at least there are very
few instances to the contrary, and if the times had
been better we should so far have relied on the cer-
tainty, that we should have abated very little of
our commercial activity.
VIENNA, JULY 4.—Four per Cent. Metal-
liques, 671 ; Bank Shares, 986.—A llgemeine
Zeitung,:July 9.

KING LEOPOLD'S PROXY.—(From the Mes.-
sager de Gand.)—Yesterday evening, at about 6
o clock, a great crowd collected in the Quartier St.
Sauveur et des Augustins. The mob surrounded
an old donkey, having on his back a little figure
of a man, very correctly dressed in the costume of
an English prince, and having on his breast
three inscriptions perpendicular to the ground,
viz. " A German," " An Englishman," " A Bel-
gian." On his back he bore another inscription,
"Saxe-Coburg, King of the Protocols." The crowd
proceeding forward, traversed all the principal streets,
conducting their pigmy etfigy,with great solemnity
and shouting, as they went along, " Down with
Saxe-Coburg," " Down with the Ministry."—
Forty men, armed with staves, marched on each
side of the donkey, and constantly administered
heavy blows to its royal rider. The manikin was
frequently thrown upon the ground by this dis-
cipline, and, in such cases, treated with the ut-
most indignity before he was remounted. The
crowd continued to increase, until at least 4,000
were collected, when a dispute arose how the diminu-
tive representative of royalty should be disposed of;
some were for flinging him into the river—others
for burning—a third party patronized banging
upon a tree. Unable to come to an agreement,
they at last fell upon the ass, tore Prince Leopold's
poor little representative to tatters, carrying away
each some fragment for a trophy. The unlucky
ass was at this time sadly beaten. At length the
municipal authorities interfered, and order was
restored, leaving the city, however, in a very
agitated state.

All we asked for from the present elections was
the majority against an hereditary peerage. That
we shall have ; and though we may wish for more,
that was all we hoped for. Is that sufficient for the
interests which we defend ? We think so, and the
next session will prove that we do not deceive our-
selves. The friends of the Ministers tell us that
France has just pronounced its opinion in the ool-
leovs. But we consider France as composed of
the two hundred thousand electors, the 1,200,000
National Guards who are not electors, and the four
or five millions of hard-working men who are neither
National Guard§ nor electors, but who have all a
sentiment of national honour. This is our France
of July, which must be satisfied, and which is at-
tached neither to the system of peace at any seen-
flee, nor to that of aristocratic privilege. These
symptoms will be annihilated by the new Chamber.
We rely firmly on it."—Le National.
BOURG MADAME (EASTERN PYRENEES),
JULY 6.—lt has been reported here for some days,
that a conspiracy against the Government of Fer-
dinand has been discovered in Catalonia, by an
aide-de camp of the Lieutenant-general, who, it
is said, by means of a disguise,suceeeded in making
himself acquainted with the conspirators, and had
caused a considerable number of them to be ar-
rested.

P RIS, JULY 12.—The Journal de Finisterre
has the following intelligence :—" The La Dili-
gente corvette, which quitted the squadron off the
Tagus on the 16th of June, arrived in Brest-roads
on the 6th of July. It is affirmed that that vessel
captured, on the 15th of June, a Portuguese ship,
of 900 or 1,000 tons ; which is reported to have
had on board 5,000,000 in money, and a cargo of
merchandise estimated at 1,000,000."
Fasmcn Pumps, Jllll 13.—Fire per Cents. 88f 7k
60e bk 40e 30e 20e 10e lbe 20e 88f lbe 20e 2bc 30c 40e1
70e 80e 87f 86f 80c 90e 87f 88f 90e. Loan of 1831, 86f1
85f 90e 81f. Four per Cents, 70f bk. Three per Cants.
In answer to a question of a correspondent, whe-
ther the Chancellor of the Exchequer intends to
propose any alteration in the stamp laws this ses-
sion or not, we believe we may state that his Lord-
ship has expressed a doubt whether be shall bring
in his bill before next session.— Times.

DUTY ON NEWSPAPERS.-Our readers will no
doubt remember that in the last Session of Parlia-
ment the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced
his intention of reducing, by one-half, with the
exception of the 20 per et. dis. at present allowed,
the stamp duty on newspapers, and also of reducing
the present enormous duty of 3s. 6d. on all ad-
vertisements, to Is. on short, and 2s. 6d. on long
advertisements. In consequence of the discussion
on the Reform Bill, the Bill for carrying these re-
ductions into effect was never brought in ; but we
have the satisfaction of informing our readers that
it will form part of the business of the present Ses-
sion ; and it is now a matter of discussion whether,
in the next of Session of Parlisnaent, the whole of
the duty on advertisements should not be taken off.
Colchester Gazette.

EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

SATURDAY, 3ULY 16.

Our Readers will perceive, by the Royal Pro-
clamation, that His MAJESTY, from that TENDER
REGARD, which he has evinced in every act of his
reign, to economy in the expences of his Govern-
ment, has resolved, in the necessary ceremony of
the Coronation, to dispense with all the Pageant
Ceremonies and expensive festivity which usually
accompany that event, and which, on the last occa-
sion, cost the Country HALF A MILLION STER-
LING. What an additional claim do He and
HIS CONSORT thus present to the affection
and admiration of his devoted People ! They
will, however, by their presence, form the best
Royal halo, and their enthusiastic plaudits be an
exhibition far more worthy and more grateful to a
patriot King, than the wasteful display of a theatri-
cal procession, and the extravagance of a coronation
dinner. No subject has lately occurred in which
we more ardently rejoice, and more heartily con-
gratulate KING and PEOPLE. The information
will fill thousands of eyes with tears of gratitude.

By the various motions fixed for A uoUST, we
may conclude that the Parliament will sit through
the summer; and then, as the Coronation takes
place on the Bth of SEPTEMBER, we may expect
that the Members of the two Houses and the Haut
Ton will not disperse to their country houses till
after that period. We hope that the passing of the
Reform Bill and the Coronation may be celebrated
at the same time ; and if this anticipation be cor-
rect, the Bth of September will be a memorable
and unparalleled Jubilee.

On the FIRST of AUGUST, the opening of Lon-
don Bridge, one of the greatest public works,
taken altogether, of our time, will afford a popular
interlude, graced by the presence of the Km; and
FAMILY, in one of the most splendid, yet cor-
porate and public, regattas ever witnessed on the
Thames, and such as no other country, ancient
or modern, could display.
The great fall in tl7Mreh Funds, led us to
infer, that in spite of the artful rumoars propagated
by the Ministry, their partizans have been gene-
rally defeated by the Liberals, and, therefore, that
France may be expected now to act a worthy part
in the Polish and Italian questions, by succouring
Poland against Russia, and Italy against Austria.
It appears, in fact, that no less than thirty of the
leading supporters of the PERIER Administration
have lost their Election, and among them some of
the actual Ministers ! The following are their
names, as given in the Paris Letter of a Morning
Paper :
1 2
At Aghalin les 16 Laisne
val de Vlllevesque
De La
3 Bessieres 18 Jacques Lefebvre
4 Bourdeau 19 Baron Louis
6 Bourdesu, L 20 Oberkam_pf
6 Brennes 21 --- Merolla
7 Casaaignoles 22 Alex. Perla !
8 De Cans 23 Amps. Pester!

9 Hamad 24 Poltava* Can
19 C. Dupin 25 De Rigny
11 Philip Dupin 26 De Sabrandy
12 Favard de Langlade 27 Te Till
13 Felix Faure 28 Baron Itenad
14 Henneuy 29 ThU
16 Humblat Conte 30 Villemain
Then in further proof of the sentiments of the
French people, O'DILLON BA RROT, the O'Con-
nell or Hume of France, has been elected for no
less than five places; COR MENIN, another liberal,
for three ; and many others of that party for two
places, as appears by the following lists'
Cormenin, by 4 Colleges George Lafayette, by 2 COIL
Berrot, by 5 ditto Baudet, by 2 ditto
Norway, by 3 ditto Merilhou, by 2 ditto
De Tracy, by 2 ditto Theard, by 2 ditto
Lafayette, by 2 ditto Arago, by 2 ditto
Felix Real, by 2 ditto St. Aignan, by 2 ditto
Daunon, by 2 ditto Semele, by 2 ditto.
Lailtte, by 2 ditto

This then appears to be decisive of the fate of
that species of Middle Government, which had
been adopted to satisfy the then Ministry of the
Duke of WELLINGTON in England, and other
Foreign Cabinets, as the condition of prompt know-
' lodgment, and which contributory to the ascen-
dancy of the Court of the Petals Royale, imagines
been maintained in defiance of popular opinion,
and at every hazard, by fcreign diplomacy opera-
ting upon the successive French Cabinets.
But if we are to believe the correspond's* of
another Morning Paper, the system has been idtesif
pushed too far, and without awaiting the reviler
assembly of the Chambers in a few days, the
French populace are again prepared to take the
government out of its present hands ; and, on the
13th July, the moat fearful apprehensions were
entertained, in regard to the events threatened:on
the festival of Thursday, the 14th, the anni-
versary festival of the glorious destruction of the
Bastille in 1789.

Should any arrivals before our going to press
announce the realization of these forebodings, we
shall not fail to lay them before our Readers,
though, as they seem to be foreseen, if there is not
a general defection of the armed force, measures
of precaution may be successful.
The late generous declaration in favour of the
Poles, promulgated by the enlightened POLITICAL
UNION at Birmingham—the numerous similar de-
clarations made at other meetings in London and
in various parts of the kingdom—and the applauded
sentiments of eloquent speakers in various public
assemblies—prove that the British nation at large
demand of its Government the adoption of moo
efficient measures in support of that brave and in-
jured people.
Unhappily the administrations generally act by

the ride of military, and the Elements of Macbia-
vel are preferred in most Cabinets to Montesquieu
or Bentham. The age is thus rendered one of
calculators—the 'spirit of justice and of manly
enterprize is laid asleep, and the heroic advocacy
of oppressed people is only a vulgar indulgence.
Even a respect for guarantees and treaties is with-
held by the policy of Cabinets, when the question
cannot be identified with Imperial and Royal in-
terests !

If we had at this time a Fox, a SHERIDAN, a
WHITBREAD, Ora Romir.t.y, in one house; or
a STANHOPE, a CHATHAM, Or a SIIELBURNE
in the other, the cold policy of Ministers
would long, ere this, have been forced to ex-
plain and justify itself. Some address would
have been moved to the Crown—some motion
would have been made for diplomatic communi-
cation on the subject—and some liberal declarations
of British feelings would thus have passed through
the journals of Europe, in just sympathy with the
merits of the Polish cause. Manifest as is the
deterioration of our Senate, except on questions
of Parish Politics and Turnpike Bills, yet some
Members, with a scintillation of genius, might have
essayed between December and July to make a few
observations in accordance with the unanimous feel-
ings of a spirited and enlightened nation.
Manly expressions of this nature might at least
have curbed the treachery of Prussia, and have
tended to mitigate the ferocity of the contest. At
the same time, Poland and its constitution are, in
point of fact, under British protection, for albs,
we were ignoble parties in the black Congress of
Vienna: and the men are still alive who repre-
sented this country, and who, it may be supposed,
must feel their sense of honour compromised by
what has passed, and is passing, in Poland.
The subject calls aloud for immediate attention.
and in making this statement, we are persuaded
that every man and woman in Britain and Ireland
heartily concurs with us.

None seem to be distanced in this march of
the universal mind, but the British Cabinet and
the other Cabinets of Europe ; and although
those in countries in which a public voice exists,
do not display actual treachery in their neutrality,
yet the coldness of mere neutrality bespeaks af-
fected doubt, and discourages the enthusiasm in a
popular cause. At the same time, in such ques-
tions of public policy, no set of Ministers are
restrained in doing honour to their Royal Masters,
by the intrigues or fetters of office, for a different
and better course would disturb no official usages,
nor alarm any for their official peculation*. There
is, therefore, no subject on which the true States-
man's mind could be more independent for the full
display of his genuine and generous principles.

The Dublin Morning Register received this day,
informs us that a second inquiry into the horrible
atrocities at Newtownbarry has been ordered
by the Government. The investigation is
proceeding under the superintendence of Doc-
tor FITZGERALD, a stipendiary magistrate.
Warrants have been issued against two of the
accused parties, and on the evening of Tuesday
several arrests were expected. This second inves-
tigation, adds the Register, is satisfactory and im-
portant in the present state of public feeling; but
the best of all preliminary proceedings would have
been the disarming of the yeomanry.
A most horrid case of Magisterial oppression,
in Hampshire, has been fully confirmed in a trial
at the assizes. It was for striking this same
1311;011AM BA Rix° that the young day labourer,
Coox, was executed ! How it happened that the
parties escaped with no higher damages than
501. is very surprising. Of course, however,
the matter will not end here; for theCitAxcELLOR
will consider it his duty to erase such persons from
the commission of the peace. It serves also as an
illustration of a subject to which we have often in-
vited more earnest and more general attention—the
unsatisfactory manner in which magistrates are
' appointed ; and we are persuaded that no reform
is more important to the peace and happiness of
the country than a total change of this system.
In the case of Mr. STOCKS, it appears that an
existing commission, acting as a close corporation,
permits no intruder whose general principles do not
accord with their own !

1 —,,,,,„---
In the House of Lords last night, Lord LORTON,
with great emphasis, presented a petition from
Roscommon, for a Repeal of the Union ; but the
Marquis of WarratEant declared that the Gentry
were opposed to its prayer.
Lord Kinn brought in a new bill, which was
read a first time, to prevent the holding a plurality
of livings. Its object is to enable the parishes in
such cases to paylsoo per annum to the pluralist,
in full discharge of all his claims of them.
The Bishops of LowDON and BRISTOL, and the
Duke of WELLINGTON, signified their intention
to oppose it.
The Marquess of LONDONDERRY made some
enquiries relative to the Belgic arrangements,
which Lord GREY, on the ground of pending
diplomacy, declined to answer at present.
The LORD CHANCELLOR reproduced his
Bankrupt Bill, with some amendments; and he
spoke of advice received from Gentlemen in the
city, of which we area, persuaded he ought to be
careful. They are on these subjects the fathers
of all the mischiefs of narrow-minded illiberality.
The business of the Commons was distinguished
by no novelty. The endless discussions, which
L no one reads or respects, about the Reform Bill,

w ere again kept up till tw•o o'clock by the desperat
Ply•

Last night, Sir A. Au r; [IV moved an amend-
ment, to continue a share in the representation to
the rotten boroughs in Schedule A --on which the
House divided, 205 to 31(. Afterwards, the first
place in Schedule A, Aldborough, in Suffolk (the
Marquis of HERTFORD'S) was disfranchised with-
out a division. On Monday the Committee will
proceed to Appleby, and so on through the list.

ROY A

'E O'CLOCK.

Our Funds appear rather heavy. Consols, ~eliich
left off yesterday at 831 i for the Account, opened
at 83k, since which they have been doneiat 831 g,
and at present they arc 83g 1. This decline is ut-
tributed to a report of the French Funds coming
lower; but nothing positive has as yet transpired
on the subject.
The public curiosity is now gratified in regard to
the annuity of Prince Leopold, in Earl Grey's
answer in the House last night, to the question
put by Lord Londonderry,—that it was a Par-
liamentary grant, which could not be taken from
him.

In the Foreign Market nothing doing.
TWO O'CLOCK.

The express from Paris has brought the Frenci,
funds higher instead of lower, as was reported on
the Exchange in the early part of the mornin.
They come 57 80—a proof that no commotiod
took place at Paris on Thursday, as was expected.
The Suctuation in Consols during the morning
has been from 831 down to 831; and up again to
83a 1 ; at which price they are at present.
In the Foreign Market there is nothing doing.
THREE O'CLOCK.

STOCE EXCHANGIEBerik StOar;V:ls4. Three per
Cent. lied. 821 1. Three ter Ct. Consols, 82 11 2 11 t
div. Three and a Half per Cent. 18Ii, Three and
a Half per Cent. Red. 901 j. Three and a Half per
Ct. New, 90/ 891 ex div. Four per Cent. 1826, 814 j.
Long Annuities, Jan. 1960, 16 1346 1. Annuities, Jan.
1660, 16e 1. India Stock, —; do. Bonds, par 2 1 pron.
Old Annuities, ---. £lOOO Exchequer Bills, 78 6;
£5OO ditto, 7 9 7.; £lOO and £2OO ditto, 10 7. Corools
for Acct, 83j 1

SPIRIT OF THE ✓ORUNALS.
_ CASE OF BINGHAM BAILING.

TIMES.—Mr. Bingham Baring certainly, if we may
trust the evidence given in open court, seems to be more
qualified for a Basbaw under the Grand Seignior, than for
a subject of William IV. much less for a British magis-
trate. Mr. and Mrs. Deacle—an innocent and unoffending
couple of respectable station in life, he being a country
gentleman resident a few miles from Winchester--were
seized in their own house, under a warrant signed
by Mr. Bingham and Mr. Francis &rime, and two or
three other magistrates upon:a charge which afterwares
turned out to be wholly unfounded, of having abetted,
in some way or other, the rustic mobs of the last winter.
The manner of enforcing the said warrant, and of exe.
cueing the caption of this gentleman and lady under it.
has, we believe, no parallel save in the records of Siberian
justice, of the old West Indian buccaniers, or the modern
Justinian Don Miguel. After the constable, followed by two
Baring and another worshipful personage, had entered the
house of Mr. and Mrs. Dude (plaintiffs), the constable told
the husband that he had a warrant against him • and added,
that " Mrs. Deeds must come too." The unfortunate wo-
man declaring that she " was very poorly," Mr. Bingham
Baring, who just then came in, tried out, " Constable, do
your duty—handbell them." Gracious Heaven ! " hand.
bolt " an unresisting and unarmed man, and a respectable
female, who supplicated for mercy on the touching plea of
illness! The mutable who was nee a barbarian,besitatod to
obey this brutal mandate, informing the Jury that Mr. and
Mrs. Dade "bad both behaved in a remarkably quiet and
civil manner, and had come up to the handbolw when he
(the witness) held them out." Mrs. Deacle being without
bonnet or shawl, asked leave to have than before she was
taken away. This indulgence was refused to the suffering
female, who, says the constable himself, " is a vary small and
delicate woman, and seems to be in bad health. BILL Baring
remonstrated against the cruelty employed, and released Mrs.
Deacle from the handcuff& Well, bfrangbam Baring carried
out the poor lady, her head banging down at one side of his
arm, her legs dangling at the other, to a cast,—a cart with.
out springs for a female invalid ! She exclaimed against
such a vehicle: it was of no use—she might far bet-
ter have besought the animal that dragged it. Sbe asked
for her own horse--" No!" " The road," says a wit.
near," was very rough ;" and what was Mr. Bingham
Baring's method of alleviating this source of dis-
tress to the sick woman? Why, according to the
witness, " Mr. Bingham Baring made me hasten on !"
She entreated that the cart might go slower, as the jolting
pained her, but it was driven oo at the same rate as ever she at-
tempted_ to get out out of the cart ; and on her husband potting
out his hand and saying, "Sit down' my dear, it is better to be
quiet," (Oh, shame to magistracy and to manhood !) Mr. B.
Baring rode up and snuck the patient and submissive
prisoner a blow with his stick upon the fettered arm,
telling him to sit quiet in the cart. Now is this usage
for one Englishman to suffer, or for 20,000,0410 of
Englishmen to permit ? Is this, we ask, an outrage to be
endured by the Jibes subjects from the King's represen.
tative,—a Magistrate ! a Judge—sworn to administer jus-
tice in surer—sworn to respect the laws? Why, if such
things maybe, where is the use of a reform ? If men and their
wives may be thus brutally.trampled on; what good, we re-
past, con be hoped from any legislature, or from the best
laws that ever were framed, if the very functionaries
to whom their equitable and temperate administration
is intrusted may thus dare to violate them, unvisited
by the fear of retribution from that quaver where
• rests the choice of magisterial functionaries It is not
within our province to condemn the verdict of a jury,
but it is lawful to wonder at what we most forbear to
execrate; and when we find that such transactions as
thosesdesaibed above, being proved before 12 men upon
their oaths by evidence uncontradieted and unahaken were
deemed to deserve no more signal notice than paltry damages
to the amount of A/4 pounds ! instead of an bundrad—ay,
or five hundred times fifty, we really must be excused for
asking Lord Brougham, in that public manner at which ne
great man was ever yet displeased, and with a wank.
nese syringing from the unfeigned confidence which
we repose in his love of justice and of practical free.
dom, can men, capable of acting as Mr. Binghana Baring is
proved by the course of judicial proceedings to have acted,
be retained in his situation as a magistra e, with any view to
the domestic peace, the comfort, or security, of a people
calling themselves free ? If open to prosecution, besides the
wretched action which is reported in the newspapers. we do
devoutly trust that Mr. Bingham Baring may receive a more
memorable lesion against the perpetration of public wrongs,
than the beggarly verdict of fel. Is calculated to impress
upon with regard to civil injuries.