Star.
London, England, 1825-09-27 00:00:00

Dlr. Junasos lauded the efforts of Mr. Owen, and seconded the
resolutions.

Mr. Wzeis protested against some of the sentiments uttered by
Mr. Owen, which be considered unjustifiable as regarded the reli.
glen we professed—(Great tumult).
The Cstazastas observed, that Mr. Owen had abstained as much
as possible from touching on the subject of religion.
Mr. Wsccs repeated his objection ; and said, that be protested
against Mr. Owen's saying that his system would eradicate all hu-
man misery; whereas Scripture said (great uproar), that so long as
ofienceb were committed, misery would remain among mankind—
( ll:ssing and noise).
Mr. It. TAYLOR contended, that Mr. Owen's system was in the
true spirit of religion.
An operative, as he styled himself, made a long speech on the
present state of the productive classes, and in favour of Mr. o.'s plan.
Mr. Dalin° spoke from a I:1.m at the top of the room,
and offered his conditional approval of Mr. Owen's
plan, provided it suggested the means of paying off the
national debt—(Great laughter). He contended, that in
consequence of the depravity of the human passions, the
inhabitants of those societies, if established, would soon
be at loggerheads together —(Cont /need laughter). He
thought, however, something useful might he done
from the suggestion, and then moved that it be referred
to a committee to report, whether or not Mr. Owen's
plan might be so modified as to bring it within the
scope of practicability ?
Mr. Owes, in reply to a question, said that the pro-
perty of each community was to be invested in the
members of it. for himself, he never would again in-
vest property with a view to profit. Whatever he had
done or would do in America, he would be content
with the simple interest of his capital invested there ;
others would the same; and by thus lending their
money on the only condition that those to whom they
lent it would do with others as they had been done by,
the system would gradually be extended. One great
advantage it possessed was, that it removed both young
and old from temptation; and as to its practicability,
he had already tried it, and had not been disappointed.
Mr. HODGAKIN addressed the meeting in a very able
speech. With respect to Mr. Owen's views of the pro-
ductive classes being able to produce much more than
they required for consumption, he perfectly agreed
with him in that particular, for it had lately been
:hewn, by what he considered unquestionable audio-
:icy, that the operative classes of Great. Britain pro-
'duced mote wealth than those of the United States,
France, and Russia put together, making altogether
a population of about eighty-eight millions. He
agreed with Mr. Owen entirely, that the produce of
the working classes would be fully sufficient to make
.them comfortable and happy, and that a reform was
wanting in their conditi n was too sellevident to ad-
mit of a minute's dispute—(Applause). But he looked
upon the question as -a most mumentotis one—one far
too momentous to be decide.] by any Committee in the
world—it was for them individually to decide upon it
—(Applause)--and with that view he would pies% upon
their not ce two leading co cum,tances with respect to
Mr. Owen's system; by the princiaileot that Gaitleman,

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he would have them belie/. thAt .the evil would be
counteracted ; but of this he (Mr. Hotigskin) very much
doubted ; for, if they stere to look abroad at the Reli-
gious Societies, either in the Old or New World, he
would ask, how many out of all of them had produced
any great or illustrious men ? What genius shone forth
among the Quakers, the Shakers, the Trappists, or the
Jesuits ? If, then, this were the case, and, on the other
hand, it were found that there was a vast deal of genius
and invention going en under the present system, ought
they not to hesitate very seriously before they adopted
any decisive measures?—(Cheers). It certainly did ap-
pear to him, that hir.o wen had not put his finger-on the
sight cause of all the moral depravity that was abroad.
He felt, however, the highest respect for Mr. Owen, as
a man, and as a philanthropist, and be should not have
presumed to offer his remarks on a plan submitted to
the meeting by so great a benefactor and well-wisher to
mankind, had he not thought that there might perhaps
be a few present who would recognize in him a well-
wisher to his fellow creatures, although he had not
perhaps been able to extend his plans to that extent
which had so s;gnalised those of Mr. Owen. (Cheers).
Mr. OWEN, after replying to these arguments, pro-
ceeded to give a short account of the state of America.
That country, although like Europe in extent, was at
total variance with it in other resrects. It was impos-
sible for any parson who hal never been there to form
any correct notion of it. In the %evert, pin you found
barbarism and high civilization directly meeting. This
country was already in full possession of th.• means of
greatness; America was rapidly obtaining the means of
greatness also; and he hoped that both countries would
be united, for it was only !tom them ne were to expect
an improvement ir► the liberty of mankind. He would
not advise aay person :o go *there expecting to meet
with the comforts they enjoyed here; if they did, they
would be disappointed: but it certainly afforded a fine
field for enterprise. The climate, -however, was diffe-
rent, and that necessarily exposed a person going from
this country to tisk. Upon the whole, he would sooner
direct his friends to form societies in tilts country, where
they had grotter opportunity of enjoying happiness and
doing good. Mr. Owen then reverted to the benefits
resulting from the adoption of his system; and at the
conclusion of his address the resolutions were put, and
passed nearly unanimously.

We have received Gibraltar Papers to the 2d instant.
The post-master of St. Roque' has sent notice to the
English garrison, that any dispatch to be sent through
Spain must have his sanction; leave to that effect
being only granted by application through the Civil
Secretary of Gibraltar ; otherwise the dispatch will be
stopped, and the messenger punished according to the
laws of Spain.
The following extract from a letter has reached us
by the Malta packet :—" St. Manra, Aug. I.—We have
just heard that the Greeks have made an offer of their
country to the English, which of course must be re-
fused. They are doing badly, and have therefore hit
upon this expedient of getting themselves out of diffi-
culty. Missolonghi still holds out, but it must fall in
five or six weeks. The Turkish fleet, it is understo d,
is returned to Alersndria, to obtain another reinforce-
ment of troops. The Cambrian, SeringApatam, and
&bilk, are at Napoli di Romania ; Weazle, at Zante ;
'Chanticleer, just arrived at Corfu, with his Excellency
Sit FREDDRICK ADAM ; Rose, at COlful.
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About two years ago, a number of the admirers of
the great Apostle of the Reformation in Scotland,
formed:a " Knox Club," in Maybob', in Ayishire, the
first of the name in this country, ani it has increased
in the number and respectability of its members far
-beyond the most sanguine expectations of its founders.
Lord ALLOWAY, Messrs. PAUL and Thomson, Mi-
nisters in the town, Mr. RAMSAY, W.S. Mr. NITER,
banker, and Messrs. JOHNSTON, WYLIE, and Snows,
factors, and a number of other Gentlemen, are in the'
list,
,its Members. According to its regulations, the
anniversaries are to be held on one or othe; of the three
days on which John Knox, by argument, maintained
the truth of she Protestant religion, against the then
powerful Abbot of Crossregual.
TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION DItTWKIN MAN.
CHM= AND LIVIIRPOOL.—Tuesday, in consequence
of an intimation posted in the Exchange, a Meeting
was 'held in the Exchange Committee Room, Manches-
ter, for the purpose of considering a proposal for
forming a telegraphic communication between Liver-
pool any London by way of Manchester. Owing, we
presume, to the want of sufficient publicity, only about
half a dozen Gentlemen attende 1, and no regular public
proceedings were held ; but Mr. %%limos?, the Agent
of the Imperial Telegraphic Company, with which the
design originates, explained, in conversation with the
Gentlemen present, the objects and plans of the Com-
pany. Finally it was agreed to form a local Commit-
tee to correspond with the London Committee on the
subject. The Meeting then separated.
The manufactories of cotton and woollens established
in Egypt are declining. The former meettilith many ob-
stacles in the climate. The salt manufactory at Bourlak,
however, and the raising of silk Worms at Zabaaik are
most promising. The salt is obtained by evaporation,
and costs only 15 piastres per quintal, whereas that
formerly produced by fire co t 80 piastres.
The story about the op ning of the chamber iq.which
Voltaire died, in Paris, has been for several yeas past
annually dished up in the London and Paris news-
papers. The original story is, that the Poet, on his
death-bed, expressed a wish that the room should be
closed until that day 20 years. The period has long
expired, and if there were any valuable manuscripts
deposited there, they have, no doubt, been published.
An Inquest was held at the Bunch of Grapes, Castle-
street, Oxford-market, on the body of Simon Sullivan,
a child, whose death was alleged to have been caused
by a kick given to its :nether, before its birth. Mary
Sullivan, sister-in-law to the woman injured, stated,
that the deceased child died on Monday morning last.
Witness, her husband, and Mary Sullivan, (the woman
injured) and her husband, and another woman and her
husband, were passing near Berner's street, Oxford-
street, when three strange men caught hold of them,
and used them rudely. Their husbands, who were in
advance, came back to protect . them, when the strange
men struck them, and her husband returned the blow.
Witness then perceiving Mary Sullivan, her sister-in-
law, staggering and bleeding, asked her what was
the matter ? She replied, the baker (meaning Alfred
Flower) had injured her. The men then ran away, but
were taken. Daniel Sullivan, husband of the sick wo-
man, said, his wife had received a kick in the abdomen,
and had been ill ever since. Tr,e Jury, after consulting
some time, returned a verdict of Manslaughter
against Flower.
Judge Ramsey was so excellent a lawyer that he was
called The Picklock of the

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DREADFUL FIRE AT BATIL
BATH. SATURDAY NIGHT, SIIPT. 244—This everting
about half.past eight o'clock, the inhabitants of the
Orange Grove, and its vicinity, were alarmed by the cry
of " Fire!" and it was soon ascertained that the upper
part of a house in Wades Passage, in which Mr. Paisey,
tailor, resided, was in flames. One of the Abbey bells
was immediately tolled, and an immense concourse of
persons has'tned to the spot. The alarm was dread-
ful : several women were seen running about in a state
of distraction, while the inhabitants of the neighbouring
houses were busy in removing their goods. The con-
fusion has not been equalled in this city since the me-
morable 21st of December, 1820, when the Llwer
Rooms, which were situated not far from the same spot,
were entirely consumed. On the present occasion the
flames burst through the windows with resistless yin-
lence ; and although the engines speedily arrived, the
supply of water was so small, that all attempts to check
them proved unavailing. The scene, at this moment,
was terrific beyond description. Ilse moon shone with
uncommon brilliancy, and its rays, combined with those
from the fire, gave the trees in the Orange G, ove a
green sulphure tus appearance, while the countenances
of the spectators appeared of a fiery reJ. The flames
continued raging for some time, and serious apprehen-
sions were entertained that they would extend to the
' Abbey Cl!urch, a fine Gothic building, to which the
'house imm:diately adjoined. Tlie)e feats were rendered
the mote intense, as the orgAn and other valuable arti-
cles hid, on Account of some important alteraticns now
going on in the Church; been placed on that side of it.
All these, however, fortunately escaped injury, and
about .half-pant itine o'clock, it was evident that the
flames were partly got under. Several firemen, with
the utmost promptitude and intrepidity, mounted the
roof of an adjoining house, and succeeded in hewing
down the windows, &c. when, at length, the roof fell
in with a tremendous crash. A better supply of water
was now procured, and soon after ten o'clock the flames
were so far got under as to do away with all idea of
serious danger. This is the third fire th,t has happened
in that neighbourhood within the last twelve months.
Sara. 25.—1 t is now ascertained that the damage is not so great
as was at first apprehended. The flames, it appears, have extended
no further than to the upper part of the two adjoining houses. Had
they not, however, been checked by a party wall, or had the fire
taken place two hours later, when the wind was somewhat rough,
the whole crdwded pile of buildings in that quarter most inevitably
have been consumed. We understand that the fire originated in the
workshop of Mr. l'aisey, the men, it is supposed, having accidentally
dropped a spark which smouldered for sontetime, and did uot burst
into a flame until after they had left work.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
BETTING-ROOM, TATTRRS ALL'S, SEPT. 26.
The Room was crowded at an early hour by Subscribes s, and
settling immediately commenced, and continued till the close, with-
out intermission'. The Levanters went very extensive, but, as Va-
rious sums have been mentioned. we shall not venture to mention
the probable amount. The greatest pat of the bets having been
paid at I)oncsAer, the panic occasioned bh•the defalcation has nearly
subsided, so that very little was said on tisk subject. It is chiefly
felt by thote who have gone beyond their limits, and depended on
the payments of others to meet their own engagements. Several
of the leading letters are great winners, and the table this afternoon
had more the appearance of a banker's counter than a betting table.
There was no betting worth noticing; the odds, therefore, remain
as at Doncaster. We hear that it is intended to increase the St.
Leger Stakes from 25gs• each to 50gs. and 25 forfeit!
ZIELTON RACES—Sartmasea 24.
The Melton Purse of 25 sot. with 25 added.
Mr. Black's Harlequin
Colonel Jones's bliss Tulip
Mr. Iloworth's °anima
Six started--A good race.
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hunters Stake of £5O (Handicap).
Mr. Rodeo's Quiz . . 1 5 1
Captain Smith's Random . 3 1 2
Mr. Rush's Amy . . 2 2dr
Mr. Forsyth's Gleaner . 4 4dr
Captain Howard's Frisky . .5 dr
The Hack Stakes was won 'gy Mr. Gyblet's Faulty, beating
three others.

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SHREWSBURY R A CES.—Scrt. 22.