Star.
London, England, 1801-02-04 00:00:00

liOtSE OF COMMONS.

A Petition from the Dsb-ors in the Gaol of Leicefter was
peen:reed, and ordered to be laid upon the Table.
Sir W. Dots' a moved that a new Writ be Ilford in the room
of P. Goldfworthy, Efq. derailed.
Mr. Tit antic moved that there be laid before the Haute an
Edisnate of the total amount of the Taxes and Income of the
country to the sth of April, dot ; alto an account of the
Charges upon the Confohdated Fund from the sth Jan. tgoo,
to the stis Jan. rit:t ; alto an account of the number of Dank
of England Note, In cireubtlon on an average of every month,
from the sth of Oetober, r 800, diftinguthing the number of
fuels Notes under the amount of 51.—Whkh were ordered ac-
cordingly.
Mr. HOINOV42 moved that an account be laid before the
Houfe, dieerlag what lncreak or diminution has taken place of
all the Salaries, Emoluments, ate. of the Public Officers, for the
year 1500.
The Committees of dellgion, Indict, Trade, Privileges, Sta
were appointed, as is ultial at the commencement of a new Par-

The time for queltioning the Returns of Member% for Great
Britain was appointed to Lott within fourteen days next, and fo
within fourteen days after feel returns have been made; and
that all &idiot's being returned for two places, Alin make their
Ekdtion within three weeks from the day of 1114 return.
The Bra then proceeded to end the 001 Rending
Order,that itwas shish breach orate of the C omm ons
of Gust Britain for any Lord of t, or Lord
mans Ida count7,to interfere In the Mediae of Mendien to
reeve In the Laid Houk of Commons. The Apeaker fuggefied,
that In confequence of the Union, it would be proper, steer the
word * Commons," to add " of the United Parliament of
Great Britain and Ireland," which Amendment was moved and
agreed to. It was afterwards propofsd, that after the words
Lord Lieutenant of a County in Great Brit.iin," &mild be
added, as Governor of a County in Ireland.
Baws• objeded to the Clank entirely, including I .or.ls
Linguae*, of Counties," and rr.oved, that theft. wrr."..
omitted. •nia brorght on a ilt fultory convention, in w Lois

I Mr. Bagwell 'an, Irifh Member), Mr. Pierrepoint, Mafter
of the Rolls, hlr. Pelham, and Mr. Nicholls feverally (poke,
alter which lt was moved and agreed to, that the debate be ad-
journed to Criday next.
The other ulual Rending orders were then read and agreed to.
Mr. Deanna moved, that a Committee Ise appointed to take
into confederation what additional orders and neceffary resole-
tions it may be proper to make relative to the proceedings of
this Heufe in confequence of the Union betwixt Great Britain
and Ireland, and that they report their opinion from time to time
to the Houfe. A Committee was appointed accordingly, con-
filling of about an equal number of Basil& and kith Members.

REPORT OF THE ADDRESS.
Sir W. W. WYNNE brought up the Report of
the Addrefs, which 'being read by the Clerk, and
on the Motion that the Paid Addrefs be read a
fecund time,
Mr. Jotiss raid, that he had lart night given a
filent vote for the Amendment ; be hoped there-
fore that it would not be deemed improper if he
offered a few obfervations on an Addrefs proofed
to his Ms; tars, in this hour of peril. With re-
fpeet to the Union with Ireland, however inimical
he had been to that meafure, there was no one who
more wifhed than he did, that it might conduce to
the confolidated interefts of the Empire ; but he
could not help entertaining doubts upon the rub-
jeft.—He was afraid that it might occafton divi-
lions in more ways than .one. It report fpoke true;
it had been whirpered that there had been already
a di vition of featiment in the Cabinet Council with
refpeCt to the Emancipation of the Irith Catholics.
On that part of the Addrefs which related to the
difpute v.ith the Northern Powers, on the filbjea
of the Maritime Law, he agreed with the Honour-
able Mover of the Amendment; that we ought
fiat preeikly to afcertain that right, as well as the
expediency of going to war upon that queftion:—
With refpeet to the additional burdens to be im-
pon..l oat the people, he would only fay that the
pen; ie could not hear them much longer. They
Lai obtained no effeCtual redudlion of the increafed
pi ke of Provifions, and in fuper-addition to this,
they were now reduced to eat what has not hither-
to been the common food of the country. He alfo
objeaed to this addrefs, becaufe it bt culled de-
fiance, and war to be carried on in a more extended
manner than ever. In its tendency, it would fervc
to re-create the French marine, and increafe the
growing calamities of the country.
Colonel MARTIN (an kith Member) laid, that
he agreed with the Hon. Gentleman in wifhing
that the Irith Union might promote the confab-
dated interefts of the Empire ; but he thought
that, with this exception, all that the. Hun. Gentle-
man had laid on this part of the liibjcxri, was but
little calculated to that end. He begged to know
upon what ground the Hon. Gentleman prophe-
lied that this Union would not tend to the interelts
of the two Countries ?—Prophecies were generally
uttered with an expeitation of their fulfilment.—
With rerpeCt to the Roman Catholics of Ir&and,
he would allure the Hon. Gentleman, that what-
ever invitation might be held out to that Body, by
thole on the oppofite fide of the houfe, they would
feel but little induced to attend to any fuels invi-
tation. He knew that the bills Catholics were de-
termined to abide by whatever the Government of
the Country thought fit to grant them. Ile hoped
that when the Hon. Gentleman, in future, pro-
nounced a panegyric upon the Union, it would be
accompanie,: with fomething mos..: relevant to his
prole !lions.
Mr. JONES role to explain r and he added, is I
hope, now the Union has paired, it may tend to
promote the welfare and intereft of the two court.
tries ; and, Sir, if the Union is to be confidered as
a marriage, I hope we !hall hear of no criminal con-
verivinv."
Mr. BANICES did not Co much objea to what the
Addles contained as to what it omitted; and, as
to the Amendment propofed to it, he thought ira
molt extraordinary one, efpecially when he con-
fidered the character of the Honourable Gentle-
man by whom it was moved. That Amendment
lb-angel), mifunderftood the effential interefts of
the country : but on that topic he was not now
difpofcd to enlarge—he would only fay, that who-
ever confulted the belt writers on the Law of Na-
tions ant the exifting Treaties refpeEting our mari-
time relations, mull be convinced that right was
on our fide. The omiaion which he lamented to
obferve in the Addrefs (an omiffion at which he
felt equal difappointment and regret) was, that
ro defire was intimated to renew the negotiation
that was carried on in Oilober laft. The Ron.
Gentleman here took a view • of the manner in
which that negotiation had been carried on, and
the manner in which it terminated. Mr. Otto, in
.1 the dote of that negotiation, afrured Mr. Ham-
mond that it was the invincible defire of the Fiat
Confnl to favour a negotiation; and that the time
of reaming it would be left to. the difpofal of his
Majefty. To this we anfwered only in general
terms of civility. Our obit &ion then was, that to
enter into a feparate negotiation Veduld be a viola-
tion of our engagements with the Dmperot of
Germany—did that engagement now eiiit ? Has
Rot the Emperor been compelled, firß to fign ar-
miflices, and then agree to a feparate negotiation?
Seeing this PO be the fallen fituatioa of our prin-
cipal Ally, and that we ourfelves mutt, fooner
or later, content to a feparate negotiation, why
net have feized the irk opportunity to ezprefs our
anxiety or readinefs to open it ? This he the more
lamented, as he had with pain obferved, that our
expeditioos against the enemy had continued to,
fail, while we had a new hole of enemies juft riling
againft us. When we had new enemies thus to
encounter, was it not prudent at leak to ender-
your to get rid of the old ? The mifcitriiages and
`misfortunes we had lately incurred, he did not
mean to impute to Minifters. Sordething of them
might indeed. be owing to mifmanagement ;
nothing, he was lure, to ill intentions. His doubts
rerpeding the propriety of their conduet, regarded
only their omitting an endeavour to renew the ne-
gotiation ; but he did not think theft doubts fuf-
ficient to jut.% him in oppoflng the Addrefs.
Mr. Witionam, in reply, profeffed his refolu-
tion not to enter at all into the general mealbres
purfued by Nliniiters, fine the Honourable Gen-
tleman had not viewed them as fabjcits of cettfure,
but to confine hinifelf folely to the particular
topics on which he had Co fully enlarged. To
illitisfy the Honourable Gentleman's fcrnples, he

did not conceive it tel be neceffary to enter into
detail, becaufe thefe fcruples had their origin in
the imperfeft information, which not unfrequently
leads to error, without ever condu&ing to cer.
tainty. The Honourable Gentleman was anxious
to be informed by Minifters, what reafons had
induced them to forbear all attempts at nego.
tiation, and thus to difappoint the fanguine ex-
peflations which had been indulged that they
would, ere this time, have made overtures for die
reloration of peace. But nothing could be left
reafonably expefted than any fuch detailed infor-
nation as would be neceffary to fatisfy his mind.
For there was nothing more nice or delicate,
nothing which demanded more ferious and deep
reflation, nothing calling for a greater exertion
of abilities than the power of determining the pro-
per time and place to snake overtures for nep-
tiation. If there was any one thing more than
another on which thole vefted with
,the manag,:-
ment of public affairs were entitled to confidence
without particular explanations of their concluft ;
if there was any thing on which _it was in many
cafes incompetent •for others to judge with
accuracy • of the • conduft Minifters might prr.
fue, it was on a fubjeCt of this nature,
neceffarily impofed filence and a concealmen. ~1
cireumflances, the difclofure of which might r.::a
the end in view. While the Honourable Gen:1•:•
man, therefore, was ignorant of the circuinfla:l- •
ces which might have, guided Minifters, and whi!,
it was inconliftent . with the very nature 01 th.e •
thing that Minifters fkould Ago& there cirnitr..
fiances, however his expefyions 'might L:
been difappointed, he ocas nut entitled
to infer criminality. All that the I loneu. •
Gentleman could conclude from the heigna,;•
the papers prereated l.ut Sedian to the
was, that the couatry is now releafed from ziaZ:
engagements by which it was !Len prevented!:
engaging in Separate negociations, but not 11:i.
no circunillanc.:, row exult to tender a propoilh
overrui es our part at piLfent
was allowed by the
France was ar to ahet, u.

every mein:- i:; her power. kr:twat-m:l,d ,:
teniions of the Nortiiern Pcvve:s. and it was ,•:::
ly not a very favourable nu.ntent to open, uc
ciations for Peace wit!, • Potver which was t

deavourirg to give ,:lea to A Confederacy velivie
objeft was the annihilation of our Maritime loci+
nets. It Purely would not be very digmbed ..e:
very prudent to propofe overtures to a Gover i
ment at this moment bufy in plotting our de-
itrmtian. But it A% AS contended that loch ode)
would tend to fatisfy the peOple, by difplaving :a
an unequivocal point of view the fince.re defire of
Peace with which Minifters were animated. 'llii.,
however, was often a very illufory and unfauf-
&dory proof of fmcerity, when it was yielded to
merely in compliance with popular clamour,
when they who acre thus compelled to adopt it,
were themfelves convinced that they addreffed
their propofals to thole who were determined to
receive them without favour. But the Honour-
able Gentleman had farther Rated his difappoint-
ment at the events which had diftinguifhed the
progrefs of the war, and' had argued that, by
prolecuting the conteft, there was little room to
hope that our condition would be improved. For
his own part he had never expelled that fiii- i?f.
neli would Joon be *oda, he had never indulged
a hope that the war would be ihort. AU that he
had profeffed, all that he had hoped, all that he
had afted upon was, that more evil was to be
dreaded from peace than war, and in this view
had thought that it ought fooner to have been de-
clared. After all the reverfes of the prefent con.
teft, he had no hefitation yet in Rating that all
that is ruinous in the war is preferable to an un-
certain peace. The queDion now was, not re-
fpeding the melioration of our. condition, but
regaletng the • means of preventing it from
becoming worfe. The extention of the war with
the Northern Powers was neceffary to the fupport
of our Maritime fuperiority, a point conneacd
.not with partial advantages, but with all that is
valuable to us as a great and independent Nation.
Mr. Ifictiotts expreffed himfelf with much
warmth on the emancipation of the hint Catholici.
He had fupported the mature of the Union., be.
cattle he had trolled that it would be the means oC
giving to that numerous clafi of Britilli eubjeas
the equality of rights and privileges which had
been denied them under a more contracted fyftem
if policy. From a hope that fo beneficial and im-
ru rtant a revolution would be the refolt of it, he
ad endeavoured to call ; voil over the enormities
d corruption by which it had been accomplilh-
ed, and in proportion to his warmth of expecta-
tion was his difappointMent to find that no prof-
it was held out of their emancipation from the
(hackles of the moll degrading fyitem of tyranny.
e next direlted his attention to the Rate of our
difpute with the Northern Powers; and though he
profelfed to give no decißvk opinion on the lab e%O.
he maintained that even the decree of one of the
wifeft and . ableft Judges of this country (Sir
William Scott) led to the inference that the right
which was difputed, was not fo clear and un-
doubted in the general unlimited view of the af-
fair as was commonly fuppofed. At all events it
was a Tobjett to be maturely weighed before the
nation was plunged, in the defence of it, in the
horrors of a war of more extended operation, and
which might involve More fad difaftexs. In con-
elution, he took occafina to pats many compli-
ments on the fpeech- of an Honourable Member
(Mr. Bankes), and argued that peace alone could
fare the country—that Peace was the with of
every one anxious for the fupport of our belt
rights, anxious to rave us from chore evils Which
have convulfed furroundiations. He had
formerly hoped that the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer would have beets able to have fecund this
advantage to the country; but now he was coo•
vinced that this was impoUlble. He trufkd that
Peace was now' ithin the reach of this Country, it
its Adrniniftration were out into other hands ; and
it was therefore necrair. for the belt inters/la of
the Britills Empire, this• be prefent party &add
be driven from ths Lelta _ . .ffairs.
Mr. Hozaattts s',. of oprtion that the Ad-
..alref. breatl-,rd a I ale (pita and from this coo.