Star.
London, England, 1807-06-30 00:00:00

DEBTOR AND CREDITOR.
The Bali of Mont A prefented a &II toraltering and amending
the laws relative to debtor and creditor, and for the more cffcc
tual puntilimeot of fraudulent debtors. His Lordfhs ftatcd,that
it was not his intetdiun to prcfs forward the Bpi this Scifion, but
merely to move that it might be printed, his °hied bring that this
important fubjeet &avid be thoroughly colifidered, and brought
forward again early next SeiTion.
AMERICAN TRADE.
Lord HAWKESBURY prefented, by his Maid-
tyis command, the Order in Council, continuing the
Provilions of the American Intercouree Ad, which
expired during the recces; and gave notice, that it
was the intention of hii Majelly'r Government to
propofe to Parliament a Bill for continuing the above
aft for a time to be then fpecitied, and to propofe in
foch Bill a claufe of indemnity for the advice given
to his Majeßy to continue the provifions of the for-
mer at'', after it had legally expired.
Lord AUCKLAND Rated, that the reafonhe did
not, whin in office, recommend tilt: continuance of,
the Aft which had now, expired, was the pending'
negociation with America. Ho trolled, that when
the treaty which was the rtfult of that negociation
came to be dila:fed, it would be difcuffed as a treaty
ratified, and he felt fatisfied it would be found
that every poffible attention had been paid to the in-
teiells of this country. He thought it but fair now
to Rate, that when the queßion of the renewal of the
American intercourfe Ad came to bedifettffed, he
Should probably be of opinion, that the fame reafons
which before operated did not cull for the continu-
ance of the AO. One part of it, in particular, Ilea-
jetled to, and was objefted to during the Negocia-
tion ; he alluded to that part of it which allowed to
the Americana a carrying trade between our poffee.
lions ip the East Indies and Europe.
Loyd HOLLAND referred to the Bill of Rights,
to.prove the illegality of levying money by the an-
. thority of the crown, without the confent of Parlia
=lent, and which he contended was done in the pre
fent inllance, by continuing to levy duties, without
any competent authority.
Lord HAWKESBURY admitted, that it was an
infraBinn of the law, and therefore his Majelly's
Ministers came to Parliament for indemnity. Ad
anitting the general principle, as Rated by the Noble
Lord, he wifhcd to be underflood that this cafe mull
Rand uprin its own fpccial circumßances. of which
t' .0 Howie would judge when the fubjeft came re
gttlarly before them.
Lord GRENVILLE contended, that the Order
of Council for levying duties, which had no legal ex. ,
'Renee, was a violation ofa moil important conllitu.
tional principle, which might to undergo the moll
ferious difeuflionin that Holife. Minifers had ad-
vifed his ..Majefly to levy duties for -a whole month,
without any legal authotiro, and -now propoled to
introduce a deuce in the Bill intended to he brought
in, to indemnify theme:lves for this violation of the
la He thought at lea that Houle ought to have•
lbe opportunity of difcuffing the great quettitin
'volved in this ail of the Minitlers in a manner which
its importance deferred, and not in the Rive• of a
claufe tacked to a money bill.
Lord HOLLAND conlidered the oneilion of fo
much importance, that he deemed it neccffery
move for the appointment of a Committee, to (catch
for precedents fince the year ,688, of money being
levied or applied by the Crown, without autho•
rity of Parliament.
A converfation of confiderable length caled.
Earl BATHURST explained the nature of the
operation of the Order of Council, which in fad r • ;f-
-ed no new duties, and railed in many inflances lees
duties, in no inftancc higher than the Crown was
legally entitled to after the expiration of the ad un-
der a former lot:dining ad.
Lord GRENVILLE contended that this Rata:
ment did not alter the nature of the cafe. By levy-
ing lower duties than the Crown was legally entitled
to, might, in fume inßances, be levying more money
than before, as in the cafe of prohibitory duties, in
which, by leffening the duty, more money might be
railed. It was Rill, therefore, a violation of the prin-
ciples of the Conßitotion, for which only,urgent and
horn:duos necclfity c'uld be pleaded, and if the ne-
atnce nut of the late diflolution of Parliament,
it would hill remain for Minißers to account for
their conclat. in advifinga diffolution of Parliament,
without making provifion for the legal continuance
of an att which they afterwards deemed it necefary
to conritoe without legal authority. •
The LORD CHANCELLOR defended the ex-
pediency of the Order of Council, but admitted that
st might be more advilable to bring the indemnity as
a feparate meafore before Parliament.
Lord HARROWBY- urged, that the-'Order of
Council only went to carry into effect the lag known
intentions of the Legiflature ; fimilar circumflances
had repeatedly happened under almoll every Go-
vernment, and in many inflances an indemnity had
not been applied for. He conceived the motion of
the Noble Lord (Holland) was not called for by any
circrnulances in the prefent cafe, which was nothing
wore than err mere formal violation of the law.

Lord GRENVILLE obferved, that the argument
of the Noble Lord ( Harrosby) did not apply, as Itt
was a matter .f great doubt, whether the Legifla-
lure would again continue the ad, it therefore did
sot appear that Minitlers had carried into effect the
intentions of the Lc•giflature.
Some further obfervations -were made by Lords
Hawkelbury, , Auckland, Holland, Grenville, Boring.
clop; the Earls of Lauderdale, Rnflyn, and the Lord
Chancellor : after which Lord Hawkefbury moved
ihe previous Qneflion, which was put and carried.
Lord GRENVILLE wifhed for fame fuitber in-
t,isnati.ni with refpcd to any fubfequent direEtions
fort carrying the Order of Council into effett.:
Lord HAWKESBURY Paid, be would make the
seceff.try inquiries.
71104T1t BILLS.
Lord WALSINCIHAM indented (even! Petitions for the Re
srival of Private Bill.
The LOttl) CHANCELLOR gave netiechat hetboold moves
to morrow, fer the appointment of a Committee to tale Imo goo.
(adoration the cimimitaneee attending Private Bilk which bat
two iotarupteil in theltiroirerf by the diffointico Padua...

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