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London, England, 1814-07-13 00:00:00

HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 12.

Mr. ADAM, in a Committee of Privileges, was heard as Coun-
sel for the Clldniant or the Stafford Peerage.
•I'he Committee reported that Mr. Barnwell had made good
his claun .n the Barnwe:l Peerage.
Mr. BILL/COEN Brought up the British White Herring Bill, the
Mad-house iGgulation hill, the Greenwich Ho=p tai Bill, and
Irish Sugar Or:iv/back Bill, which was thereafter read a first time.
Mr. Irving. hum the Custtt•n-Hour, presented an Account of
the quail By of Grain imported into thin Country, frum tite year
1690 to the urtseitt day. .
The I oan Charge bill was read a third time and passed.
The Apprentice Bill was also read a Piird time and p7..std.
A number et Pc.itions, from various places, tor the Abolition
of the Slave rade, were presented by the Marquis of LANS.
LOW \r., Earl STA sit° PC, and the Ea, I of Dattu o•roo.

'1 h..- Irish Custom 1. utes bill was read a second time.
The Wats Duty bill went through a Cuznntittee, and was re-
pored.
The House wf nt into a Committee on the Plymouth Tobacco
an' Scuff Imp -nation B 11.
Earl ui IDERD ALE supposed that there must have
been some reason why Plymouth was not incluckd in the list of
tow-s all., !by Act of Parliament to import Tobacco and
Sn. ft In re was an Noble Lord present who could assign any
rknsn why inaportanon was not allowed into that place. Their
1 ord,ll wet:. ..ot in. .t there m; rely for the purpose of passicg
widioat any • xplanation of them.
Lord Ali I.V1l.1.1: allso ed that every '13.11 ought to be ex-
plained, if requ.red; bur it was not nect,silry to take cp the time
of tli• Home with the explanation of every bill that should come
before C:etn.

After some further observations, the BM was teported, for the
pt,tpose ~f being reromsuitteti on friday nest.
Ihe Scotch Judges' An y lii i went thimgh a Committee,
and was at:trwards r•_ported, with amendments.

Lord .511)110I; I resented a Petition from a Mr. Hume,
clainti;:g the Marchniont Pei rage.
Hi.:llw.l 1111 went through a committee, and was re-
por..ll, n l n alieru:intitts.
'Fhe 'eVarii,ifs of LAN 41:YWNE presented a Pet:tion frlm
the komm .ati.olirs of the Ci.uuty of Louth, praying for relief
front th affictirg them.
Th. Earl oi r resented Paitii,ris from seve-
n! of ,he 5.-.rport Towns in Scotland, againbt the Northern
ipht H u.e

The of LAI IDERDALE thorealer called the attention
of th,, I iuew to a 1341 h,fore by wtich every commodity
fr Air tisii col wry would have to ray !n the river of 13erri,,J IS
and a half ie r teht. if ditty •NVe had Liven other countries a
li?..bt ti tradt. with Ind a. and the t fret Cri. such an ettormotot
las:at:no on our CAVA COMMOdltie•i, would be to throw nearly
alt the lodlan trad.- hut) the hun.', of forriorrs. The precut
s': to of taxati.,n in Intla was a sohj,ct of serious and
Or • %to r. Nei h. lint:.e wir.,it to l'esrow 0-ry attention.
.VII.! 11 sal', tl.e elll allud:Nl to would merely
In.ve .he etYoct z ..g cer ain Stifle*. 't hes? du-
t...4 leVi II at Cr. c.vta, Bontb.ty, and hil-tOrai, tho pats et
th - dna.: eot Ceu,et wnews. At tie present nioinent they m'glit
D: inn, sod, and tl:e .4‘,1 tnerety gave.. tetto poet to a hill pasted

ItELtTO ELECTRON MU. • •
The LORD CH ANCELLOR asked, if the Coun-
sel w tic) were to he lieard.ag_.iiist the '2el teadinz of tht
it h!itton I.l..tction 8,1 l were in atttaidance ?
Tie tarl cf LAUDERDALE said, he wished
to move that a certain number of indivi-
eioal,, in a 115 t which he read, should be .sunitnoned
• t•,'ateitel and give caklence before their Lordst,ipson
Toef.lay. the 19:: of itily inst.
Lord DE IJUNSTANVILLE s t'd the notice
cotild cast rear.ll the individuals ti.l itlay• next, and
li• th,a.abt a hoer day ought theretole to be lixrd.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, their Lord-
ships ought to pati.,e before they ordered a number of
individuals to come before them, to give evidence ots
a subject, respecting which they themselves knew no-
thng. Nobody knew from the Bill on what account
the. disfranchisement of the Elect..rs of the Burgh ct
Holston took place. 1;1 other Bills of a similar na-
ture, the cause was generally stated to be natoriatis
corruption. But the reason ,assigned tor the disfran-
chisement in this Bill was merely certain illegal prate-
tices. Ile did not mean to say that bribery and cor-
ruption were rot included under the expressicir illegal
practices ; but there were many illegal p:actices
which would not warrant them in disfranchising a
body of Electors. He did not know wriat might be
proved under this all.2gation. If persons were brought
before them vexatiously, it would be in the power of
the House to animadvert upon it, bat as he had before
said, they ought to-know what the witnesses were sent
fur to prove.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought the
Horse (milt not to proceed hastilyin this gill at the
present 11,;Vanced period of the Session; a Lill, which
w .tild have the effect of disfranchisingai great body of
Electors. He saw no injury which could result hore.
the delay ; and he tb .ught that the House °tight
conic to an understanding not to read the Bill a third
time in the present session. He understood, however,
that a numlier of witnesses were in readiness to attend
their Lordships, and it would be a pity thAt
expense and ti (ruble which this must have occasioned,
should be throtc n away. Till he heard the evidence,
becould nut make up his mind as to the vote he should
give.
• Earl STANHOPE said, the difference between
this and former Bills. of a similar nature, was, that
they were properly worded, and this was not. But
t!iou4;11 the expression of illegal practices was too wide
there was no objecting to the making i..quiry, but
merely to the passing the Bill with a preamble so im-
properly worded.
The LORD CHANCELLOR saidp it appeared
to him that the practices should not only be illegal,
hut such as to justify them in the measure they were
adepriog. His objection to the wording of the pre
sent Bill was, that it would open the door to investi.
gations Of practices of all k'nds. Tricy ought to know
on what points the witnesses were to .be examined be-
forcordering them to attend. For their convenience,
before going into the evidence, they ought to have a
statement or what the illegal practices were.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE declined making
any motiob at present for adjourning the consideration
of 'the Bill.
44,Ane. conversation ensued between the Earl of
Latrinctuaraalls, tbeLon.DCICANCICLLOR, Earl STANHOPE,
LOtti EiliaNis4aQueli? and Lord REDLIDALE, chiefly

on the loose nature of the expression in the preamble
of 4, illegal practices," on the mode of examining
witnesses, and as to whether the Bill could be gone
through this session. It was at length agreed, on the
suggestion of the Loan CHANCELLOR, to call in the
Counsel in order to understand from them the general
nature of the facts to which they proposed to call evi-
dence. _ _ _

Mr. Adam, Mr. Serjeant Pcll, and Mr. Harrison
accordingly appeared at the bar. Mr. Adam, as
Counsel for Mr. Plumer, a freeman of He'stun, a Pe-
titioner against the Bill ; Mr. Serjeant Pell, as Coun-
sel for Mr. Wallis, in favour of the Bill ; and Mr.
Harrison, for Mr. Scott, a freeman of lielston, against
the Bill. Mr. Serjeant Pell being called on by the
House, stated seve-ally, that a small number of per-
sons, corporators of Hehton, had monopolise,' the
right of returning Members for the Borough ; and
had for benefits conferred on them, either as a body,
or individually, transferred that right to an individual
at whose t% ill and pleasure the Members for the Bo-
rough were returned.
The I.OIW CHANCELLOR proposed to post-
pone the forth( r consideration of the Bill till Thurs.
day, that the House might then consider what course
they would take with regard to it, which was agreed
to.—Adjourned.

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