Star.
London, England, 1805-03-15 00:00:00

Noble Lord. For the fervices in his profefronal c.
pacity of the Noble Perfon in his eye (the Earl of St.
Vincent) he bad all the refpea they deferved : bui
it was not new in the hitlory of this country, that.
under the adminillration of naval Lords, the navy
bad more than once been in danger of mouldering.
and had welt nigh one to pieces.. He had only to
call the attention oftheir Lordfhips to the naval ad-
miniftration of Lord Sandwich, a perfon regularly
bred to the prefeflion, and yet. evirh the exception ofont.
the Navy fell more into decay under the management
of that Board, of which be had been at the bead.
than when it was prefided by perfons, neither whore
habits nor education were profeflional. When, he
would elk, had the Navy been molt llourithing ? was
it not at thole periods when it had been fuPerintend-
ed by a Noble Earl in his eye (Earl Spencer), and
another Noble Earl (Earl of Chatham) whom he did
not fee in his placed Under whole management of
the naval department were the vittories of Earl Howe,
Earl St. Vincent, Lord Duncan, and Lord Nelfon
gained ? He had no objeCtion that as full an enquiry.
as poffible Sall be intlituted into the condo& of tbe
late and prefent Admiralty Boards, but he did not
intend that the Tuition (Mould be decided upon the
documents moved for by the Noble Lord. He would
alto bring forward Come dOcuments, tending to
illuf-
trate Sha former invariable .praiftice of the Board. of
Admiralty. upon mall of the points touched _on by
the Noble Lord. It was not his intetnion to objelt
to ally Of the material documents moved for, by the
Noble Lord t there were, however, Come of the pa-
pers which he did not think it would be prudent to
have produced: 'He would, therefore, via thu
part of the Second liefolution beginning at the words
u alto of all reprefentations," to the conclnfion'
fisould be omitted, and that the whole of the fourth
Refolution fhould be espunged. He did not think,
being copies of letters from COmmaptlers of (hips,
that they were ertrentely important in the coufidera-
tiOh of the great quellion it was the object of the No-
ble Lprd tq bring forward: He was aware that offi-
cers, as it had been obferved, were often in live with
their 'hips, but the proffers of the paffion here was
different from what obtained in all other4afei ;It was
teldom very' se'ervi at the beginning. At the com-
mencement of a lh %rare to outlaw:A, an enter-
priffig officer vrftN wiffi fors better kiler than the
alp to which it had been thought proper by his Cu:
*flare to place hint.' -Holvever, if the Noble Lord
4Ohltr*oo lettericomPlaining 'of the Tilling of
Sips condruatdin* she4iiots' yards. he could aft,
lure him that be coldnioduci as. many complaining
of te 'falling. of Raps sonikOillad in th
King &yards-
Ai to the Obfervations ofolecers tefflttlnit*illniefi
of hips for the fkrvice, ttiei were,.iii tits crnionaome
et Ibt criterions to indge by. If refits were
objeded to, let them be furveyed by Oropei perfons,
and let not the capritious didike of awofficer be wgr
ed as an. argument agalnft either taking into or con-
doning N fh.p ih the (evict. He did not Tee the no,.
ceffity of Making out the long lift the Noble Lord
Molted for of guys, Tome of which were built when
Lord Koppel was at the head of the Admiralty: He
had -nii.objestion to coneede to all the motions of the
Noble Lord, extept the latter part of the second, and
, the whole of the fourth. - "
IThe mot ioniirreid then put by dse LORD CHAS,'
AlLLORtilth hectrait exceptions,'ind granted.
~-After YoMe...i.converfpdcisrrefpcding the tomes ci6
Letters Hos st e CotOtaaridois:hrthe Wadigio
ft/dErtas "'• • ,
- !The Duke. of CLAIMICE expreffed bit Awe-
that Sri the Noble VircoeneaiThe beed'isfihe Ada&
talty had declared isis intention-of bribenflonviret
other documents, Come intimation wan2Wpaollsz
Win btthe day: • • • • -•
idord ItgLVILLE faid, it was not ritual forper-
Cons in °tree tcrgivt flick intimation, although it was
the praelfe for thofee who tidied upoil them to an=
fwe; far any part of. their condad,, to, do fo`. He
however had do objedtion; and, 'after Some confute*.
tion.,*be mentioned Moaday.--Adjourned tat tp-
morrow.

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HOUSE OP COMMONS.

Mr. BOYD irifinied&eral Petitions from
different pinto of Sc *hod, agalrift the Bill for impofing an addl.
tional Duty on Salt-which were tinkled to lie on the Table.
The Refolutiona of the Committee on the Sugar Draw-back
Duty Bill owns agreed to, and a Bill ordered to be brought is
upon it.

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Me. HUnISSON gave nodce, that he amod to-wormer move
that fo ousch.of the laik Ata as referred to theDutia in Ireland be
referred to a Committee. • • . • •

The fame Gentleman, in the abfence of the Chancellor of the
Exchelper,!coo*" that his SUglicHon. Friend would defer
hie tnbuiot► for allowing Milith Soldiers to cubit into the Militia,
front tomorrow Lo Mooday net►
He then prefemed an account. purfuant to order, of all ferns of
money. paid by the Elemport of the late Hom Keith Stuart, in
iif-
chaq of the-MMUS due by him to Gdremnient, is t jpf. Ordered
to lie as the able. ._ _ .

A Maley* born the Lords announced, that they bad agreed to
the Moron Bode Duty and Loose private BMb.

• • IRISH •VFAIRS. '
Mr. J. FITZGERALD, after a few prefatory oh-
fervationsmoved, that there be laid before the Mouth
an account .of the charges outttarding on the furplus
of the confolidated fund of Ireland and of the turns
paid thereon, up to the 'sth of January, 1805.
Mr. FOSTER raid, he had no other objeetion to
the motion, than that he did not know bow the fur.
plus could be made up, until the proportion which
Ireland was to pay to the general expences of the
Empire mould be,afcertained ; and that, therefore;
the motion could not anfwer the Right Honourable
Gentleman's pus pofe.
Mr, FITZGERALDthooght there was no ground
to fuppofe it would not anfwer his purpofe, as he bad
not yet explained it. •
The SPEAKER acquainted him, that it was dual,
on fuch occafions, to Rate the objeet of the motion.
Mr. FITZGERALD then explained, .that the ob..
jea-of his motion was to afcertain the propriety of the
Retement made left night, that the charges of the
furplus of the fund• made it rieceraty that large fume
of monerlhotild, be fugered to remain in the hands of
the Collators in. Ireland.

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Mr. FOSTER erved, that, after hearing that
flatement,. he would again repeat, that no money
could be taken from theforplus upon the fund, until
the charges ilsould be paid.
After a few words from Mr. Ross, Mr. HAw.
inoans, and Sir JOMM NEWPORT, the motion was
agreed to. •
M.. FITZGERALD afterwards moved for an
account of the fums of money advanced by thi Corn-
railFsoners of the Navy in Ireland; the amount of the
unfunded debt of the navy; st return of tit. balances