Star.
London, England, 1813-03-23 00:00:00

Also, for Exportation,.

18 Pipes and two Casks Malaga 'Wine,
ex Trende Brodre, stranded at this port, on her voyage from Ma-
lava ; samcle. whereof may be tasted, at Messrs. Sampson. Sharp,
anti Bastard, Merchants, London, six days preceding the sale.—
Viewing, tasang, and further information, may be obtained, by
applying to Messrs. Hawker and Sons, Merchants, Plymouth.

......—.
Also, the Brig COFFEE PLANTERS foreign-built--has a
British register, is eoppered, has a figure-head and quarter-
badges, sails very fast, and is well found.
Dimensions:
_ _ _

Length, . 73 ft. 11 In. I Depth, - 10 R. 111 In.
Breadth, - 2u ft. lot I Adnieuvres In tons.
Has lately delivered 145 Tons of Goods, from Sicily, at the Port
of Dublin; is a very handy and desirable vessel for the Spanish,
Portugal, and Newfoundland Trades, and may be sent to Sea
humedately.
Fur Inventories, Viewing, and further Information, apply at the
Counting-house of Messrs. Hawker and Sons, Merchants, Ply-
mouth. JOHN LuscOmaa, Baa.
ejoiguth, 16ib Marcb, 1111/.
•

ADELPHI-TER RACIAL
lbteellest and 11paclous FAMILY RSSIDP NCR, teonr; Olken
. of all descriptions, lege detscht 4 Kstebesi, &e.
Hy Mr. RODIN'S,
At GarraWay's, on Tuesday neat, the sett, inst. at Tseeffe;
AVALUABLE LEASEHOLD ESl'Al'Ee
held for a Long Term, at a low Orman I Rent, comprising
a Substantial Well-built FAMILY MANNION, si.uste on the
Adelphl-Terrace, corner of Robert-street, the reel latce aed pro.
perty of Sir Edwar•l 11yde East. The priocipal apartments cons.
Nand exteosiv.,.. and hemitiftil Views of the Rivet staid Country,.
containing on the Ground Floor an entrance pawed Hall, capttal
Duting.parlour, a Library and Anti-rums • un tl.e F rat floor •
noble, elegant lofty Drawing room, handsur:tely Stashed, an anti
loom to a s coed Drawing-mini ; ani:able lied-c.aimber•ou the.
Second Storey; cites Deist Attics and Litindry ..ver • Rousur..l
state Staircase to the 'Strand Storey, %V tr-clowt&c.; that
Offices comprise Hon ekteper's koom, dolor's o bcivaute
Hall, Store-town, Large-toom. Wine and Leer Cellars, a v.., it al
detached spacivas Kitchen; (mottos the River, roomy •Vaidli
fur Coals, &c.
May be viewed liy Tickets from twelve to four o'clock p per.
dealers may be bad on the Premises ; at Ca; rawiy% • atal of
Mr. Robins, Wartvick-street, G4ldta-Nyisare, where Titbits Kilt
vtewlt may be had.

DESIRABLE RE:II)I..I4CE, iu conirlete coder, and it fur gib
iingne.liate reception of a mail rtltecl Yaodltj
/Sy Mr. ROBINS,

At Garraway's, oa Tuesday nett; the 90th blatant, at Itst
AVERY Eligible LEASEHOLD ES CATE,
comprising a very desitabte comp.:cc RENWENCE, roe
c.:ntly repaired aad beautifies) at a very cou.idetable ex
and fit for the immediate reception of a small genteel tiParintelt
most pleasantly aituat:d in Chartes-street, conmsauding fe front
a full- view of ikrkelersquare, and overlooking at the Lack
Lansdowne Garden; containing, on the upper C 'or, two pee
4teepior rooms and a Lret ; 4!Ctra.: door, two except.=
Bel•chambers and a W ; on the tit .61 .or, two rkyast
lltatering-roottis, hand.emely dttA up, overtntlt.4 the square,
it'd commandi4 a view of Istamitovratt Gard, ;on the ground
floor, a spaeou;Lutrance-hall, wah Fire 'Lee, tonal Cktset,
and au eivelien: :towed Dining rar,lcur; mike basement, con.
v,.nieot Oft ces, tpen Yard at the back, and a Building at the
extremity, wi,h Men's Komi* over, Ste.; Area in front with
Larder. ‘'au'a for Coals. &c. Ha'. is well 6/applied *Alt

I u Tickets. Particulars nn the Pr( ndses ; at
;errav•ny's ; awl of Mr. RDbls.s,Warvr.ck-.strest,Uukhat-squire,
of whom Tickets fur *Lib lug :nay be hal.
- -

HOUSES, Gratz t Cumberbuld-rsert, ‘thrd.street, nryanstorte.
steett, ar d Adam-Arte, ; ' Y laves:lns Musary.
by Mr. ROBIN 4,
_ _

At Garrawars, ea Tpeaday Eclat the 10th meteor, et 10, is
Three ate,
N eligible and iTivrov<tble LEASEHOLD ES.
A
TATE, worthy the attent.ion of Piteous ttsishag to invest
Motley, proZedng art improve? Pent of overly ..C4OO per ann.
Lot 1. A aubtrantitl brtek-butt Dirrening-busise, ovoniediest:li
planned, dame No.3i Great Cus.berlatid•nteet. Oxford attevt,
with a coach-house and two sta:l smith, co lersd to Min. Jonas
ion, but hi pt-ssesrlon of Mi. Rock.
Lot S. A Mick-Mdse Dwelling-house, No. Hs, on the Mirth.
Side of dryanieone-etrett. Aire stories blih, two rJonte tot a
door, with a .bop and trriour, kitchen, he. hi the kisetneet, wed
small yard at the back, tat the cv.c.• opation of Mr. Tidtun, grave.
'ricer.
Lot 3. A brick•built 'Pante No 34. Mane
street West, Ppninan.square, two storks high, two rooms on I
Rear, two parlours and lobby on the ground door, Ictebens
the bast:ne ut. atm at the back; avith a wash-hook, coninatvVone
woo k-slaop and three d0V114,-toglas mu', and :cad AA, in this •
isecupation of Mr. Hawthorn.
To be viewed by leave of the tenants. Particulars on /benne
nib's; of Mears. Jennings and Coliicroci.isitors, Cara-y.41-4st
at Garraway's ; aed cm Mr. Solna.; lyaterack

• OLA MO ROAl4.sti IR If. •
ELIGIBLE FREEHOLD lOTA FE' OF TWO HIJNDUD
AND si:2 I Y Two ACRES.
TO BE SOLD BY PRIVATE CONTRACT,
AN Eligible and very desirable FREEHOLD
F.STA'rE, cohsisting of a cianfortable Residence for s
small gfntrel harnily, or a respectable Warmer, called CAlls
FELLA; with Gas delis, Plantations, attached sad droched of.
tices, barns, stables, lleas:-houses, clot-buildings, and 'other eon.
veniencies. ICE), the Messuage, Farm, and Lands called CAS.
TEJ..I.AFACH ; the whole lying In a rh.g knee, and comprising
together about 262 Acres' of 4rabk, Moidow, Pasture, and
WooJ Land. Likewise a Wats.r Corn Grist Mill, htill-houns.
Smith's Forge, and several Cottages adjo.niug.
The Estate is situated in a pleasant part at the County of Gle.
morgan, ntat,thepicturesque market-town of Lantrisimmt, within
ten miles of the market towns of Cardiff awl Bridgirod, and about
six tulles of the celebrated New &Ike in the Vale of la/4 and
the GlaniorgansLire Canal.
The whole, except the Mill Premises and about sig Acres a
Land, are held at will. Inunellate possesslou may be had of the
house and offices, with two fields sad a quantity of bsy relieved
for the purchaser, sod the res.due of the Farm as the tad of
February, 11114, neat.
Further particulars may be bad by avert's (If by leter, post.
paid) to Messrs. Edwards Anil Lyon, SolLitors, Elloottabluy.
square; or of Wincanley and Son, Paternoster-row London,
at whose Mike a Plan of the Estate may be seen; Paternoster-row,
of Mr.
Vaughan, Sulicisor, Swansea; or to Mr. Richard jun.
LandSuiveyoriyew IVlillotear Lantri.sent, Otattuargansliate.

T OWE'S PATENT BRI l'lßti Tlild
1-4 CLO lU—the only Manufacture tithe Kind tr. the Uaitel
Kingdom. Zatablished I 808.
This fabric combines the properties of great durability. bean.
tifTil appearance, plensantneas in weir, and more e..mhoiet to
health in all seasons and c:iniatee than any oast r eltiecriptivn of
Shirting Clock.
livery place is as usual warranted and 'old at the Patentee's
Original W archaise, I i 4, Cl:capsule, near lit. Paul's • tiardit.gs
Howell, and Co. nit, Pall Mall; and no other \owe In London.
The Proprietor h. dot it necessary to.tats, in conseiticacr of a
home in Cheapaide offering far sale an erticle termed linpunJ
Patent Cotton Thread Shirting% that Lowe% manufacture is the
only description of Shirting Citr.b for which a Patent has over
been obtained; every piece of which Iles his signature, a.,d any
other fabric than Lowe In imitation art and as parent Kiri,
big Cloth, Is spurious, and an irnyainuet on the Public.
GkOltGli LANE, Puente*.
No. 154, Cheetddet nwel'aures

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PARLIAMEATARr PlcucEENAras.
HOUSE OF 1.0RD3, MARCH 22.
. The judgmeru of iheTotirts below ; in the case of the East In-
tUa Company and Antrolius, was affirmed.
The case of Bateman v. the Countess of Ross, stood over for

'1 he Marquis of STAFFORD pry:tilted a Petition from Wol-
verhampton against the liar: India Monopoiy.
The Duke of SUSSEX presented a Petit= from the Trader.
itscl Householders of the Tower Hamlets district, in favour of

the Monopoly.
The Blyhni of RAPHOE presented a Petition from the Cor-
poration of Londonderry (we believe) aga'nn the Catholic Claims.
Lord GRLY presented a Petition from the English Roman
Catholics. His Lordship, in an address of some length, con-
gtatutated the House on the spirit which . was_prevalept in the
ousting on the subject of the PeCtion which he then offered.
Ail animosity to its objects had died away; fair discussion was
ready to glee the boon which Was once refused by cowardly pre-
judice. •'1 he meeting at Which the Petition. was framed was
bithly respectable, Lord Cl tfOrd being in the Chair; Lords Ern-
ham acd. Shrewibury were among the subscribers; it asked, in
general, for the abolaion of all disqualifications arising from re-
ligious opinion. This, Lord 'Grey observed, war to be consi-
dered as a lull answer to those who charged the Cathtilics with
wishing to depress the rights of ether sects.
Lord BORINGDQN coincided with the sentiments expressed
by the Noble Lord (Grey).—The Petition was thenieceive&
PRINCESS OF WALES.

Lord ELLENBO ROUGH commenced bysaying,
that he had to trouble their Lordships on an occa-
sion, in which many motives concurred to make him
come forward reluctantly: The House would un-
derstand, that the circumstance to which he alluded,
was connected with the Mention of individuals whom
his respect would not allow him lightly to name. He
was aware, that in coming forth to clear himself, there
might be an imputation of weakness and irritation
under the charge which forced him forward ; but then
it was necessary that trttth should be told : there
were cases, in which all of respect that we could feel
for general epiaion,—all of credit that we could
claim with the world,—all honour and propriety
urged us on exculpation. Another reason still might
retard him,---Ie was a Privy Councillor : going into
a question of this nature night seem to involve a dc.
reliction of his duty ; but he trusted nothing shoul.l
so far
,make him forget that duty, as to touch upon
matters by whose disclosure it Might be impaited.
Hut the character of his Noble 'Colleagues must not
be left to suffer through his silence. They were all
placed in the strange and hard situation where they
must be condemned unheard, or look for an imperfect
vindication by the scantiness of their right to explain.
I3ut nothing should prevent him giving the fullest de-
nial.to the calumny in question,—that foulest, basest,
and most malignant calumny that could have been
thrown out against men in the situation which he and
his Noble Colleagues had held. It would be remem-
bered, that Some years since his Majesty had been ad-
vised to issue a Commissicn for an Inquiry into mat-
ters which involved son:e eminent persons in this
country. In that Commission his (Lord Ellenbo-
rough's) name was inserted, without his knowing any
thing of the matter. Once engaged by his Majesty's.
command, •he did his duty to the best of \his power.
But it was in the performance of that duty that some
person, with the most abandoned and detestable slan-
der, had dared to charge him with a gross act of dis-
honesty ; him,-on whose character for integrity, dili-
gence, and care, depended more of the property and
interests of the people than on those of any other man
in the country ; yet of him, it was foully and slan-
derously alleged, that he had falsified the evideime
given bef, re the Commission, giving in as a docu-
ment, (vitarice that was not received, and suppressing
that which was actually given. This was all a lie,—a
vile slander,—Ali false as Hell. He would not vio-
late the propriety of that Hsuse ; he knew the respect
and the decency which it requited ; but he must give
the lie to falsehood. He should now trouble the
House with a short statement of facts. In the course
of the enquiry. his Noble Colleagues thought it pro-
( per to have some person to take down and arrange
the evidence. His Majesty's Solicitor-General at that
I time, (Sir Samuel Roii.illy,) was the person fixed on.
One evening t.i.e Commission having met, and tht
witnesses be.ng in attendance, it was thought better
not to defer the examination, and lose the evening,
ithough from some circumstance or other Sir Samuel
Itointily was not in attendance. The messenger sent
for him could not find him, and the examination pro-
ceeded. 'I ho Commissioners requested, that he
i (Lord Ellenborough), as he had been in the habit of
taking down evidence, and probably took down in
the year twice as much as any man in the kingdom,
should take down the evidence of the witnesses in at •
tendance. He declared upon the most sacred asst.
aeration that could be made,—the most solemn sane-
tion of an oath,—ttiat every word of that deposition
ii came film the lips of the witness in question,—thlt
every word of it was read over to her,—if not pare-
,l gropli by paragraph, as it was taken down, certainly
• ail alter it was taken,—and every sheet signed with her
name. if it would not be going into the particular
disclosure, which mAlling could induce him to allow
. or advise, the bare inspection of the paper would be
enough to show that fabrication was impossible.—
ed-ilt was full of interlineations, the 'mind of the party
was expressed in.its language—any man might have
!, seep, in its changes and cotrections, that the deposi-
tion went to ascertain the lull meaning of the witness,
and could not have been the work of him, or the
other Commissioners. He might, at least, from his
station, take the credit of laborious accuracy ; etad
he would venture to say, that not one word was in
tnat written deposition which had not been spoken!
by the witness. But how absurd'. was the charge ?
SVeuld his Noble Colleagues have suffered him to
vitiate the evidence? Would they have allowed him
' to set down a word on the paper which was not de-
posed by the witness? He had every reason, from
' the most perfect recollection, to say, that the paper
in question contained the whole evidence—and no.
thing but the evidence of the witness. Their Lord-
ships would forgive him for those repetitions ; but
when they sliewed so just a jealousy of thi reputa-
tion of their body—when h was so important that
his (Lord Ellenborough's) integrity theadd stand
without suspicion, from the multitude of interests
connected with it—their Lordships could not• bhune
him for standing forth to repel in the strongest marl.
ner so base and impudent, and miscreant an in:pu.
teams (Hear, hear). Nay, the thing was foolish as
well as wicked. It was despicable Irons its very
! stupidity. It charged hint with putties leading
r
questions. Now what was the case in which leading
i eaestions could be put i It was, where there were

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edntencling parties and leading tplestions %vete only
improper when the Counsel might be suspected of in-
structing his own witness. But the Judge had a right ,
to put any question whicli appeared to him likery to
elucidate the truth. There was another ease, when
the witness was adverse ; but here the rule had Its
exceptions, and nothing to be derived from it could
I impeach te putting of any questions by Commis-
siOners, who cola have had no object but the truth.
It remained for this stupid and cursed impudence.—
for impudence was a curse—to add another query,
and gravely demand why the examination had not
been written in question and answer ? But was there
a man grey-headed in the law who had ever heard of
such a tiling ? If the whole of the facts could be
detailed, no prejudice on the subject could lie on the
minds of the public for an instant. But as a Privy
Councillor he could not address the Prince Regent
for that purpose. (Hear, hear). One of the most
alarming symptoms of the age was, that brutal and'
savage indifference with which men threw About slan-
der at the highest characters : this was 41 tossing
firebrands," and then saying, e am I not in sport P'
But in the whole transaction, he and the Noble Com-
missioners, he must be allowed to say, felt, not per-
fect indifference, (for who could feel indifference ?)
but a single desire to do their duty (Hear, hear). I
He was sorry to have so far troubled the House.—
His purpose was not to vindicate, but exculpatory.
For whatever pupishment the offence might call, he
would call for none ; he was only desirous to stand
unimpeached in the opinion of the country, and honest
in the eyes of his fejlow men.—(Hear, hear).
Lord ERSKINE was one of the Commissioners,
and felt the importance of having the character of
high Magistrates clear in the public eye. But he
should have thought, that there could scarcely be a
necessity for vindicating himself from the imputa-
tions of the night; he should have thought that his
professional, character—his situation in life—the rank
he had held—might have.been enough to wipe away
every stigma. The Commissioners had to complain,
that if they had done justice, justice bad not been
date them they were accused of improper dealings
with the paper of the evidence ; but, as his Noble
Friend (Lord Ellcnborough) said, this 'was not
only the assumption of a false fact, but the false,l
confused, add arbitrary conception of a misunder-
stood rule ; a rule, which, if adopted, would go to
shake the foundations of property, and even the se-
curity of life in this country. If the Magistrates
were not permitted to put leading questions to wit-
nesses, the most fatal consequences might follow.
But if the slander was intended to convey an impu-
tation that he was guilty of any fabrication of the
evidence, he thought that it ought to be almost a
sufficient protection against such a charge, that he
and the Noble Commissioners were prevented from
appealing to fact. (Hear, hear). But with the Noble
Lord (Ellenborough), who had spoken so eloquently
on the subject, be.must retort the calumny, and ear-
nestly desire that the whole of his conduct on the ,
occasion might be fully laid open.
Lord GRENVILLE, after what was said by his'
Noble Friends, could not sit silent. He confessed
that it was not in conformity to his own feelings that
he rose ; in the cruel and hard situation in which he
was placed. He knew his duty to the country, to
the Sovereign, and to the family of tl.e Sovereign,
too well to suffer him to break in upon the confie
dente reposed in him. Such a discussion would.
produce nothing but the most complete confusion ;
and this he felt too strongly to suffer a word in viola-
tion of that confidence to escape his lips. He would
endeavour to follow the example of the Noble Lords
who had spoken, and, with their discretion, attempt
to vindicate his share in the transaction. But he
was placed in a hard situation. His very necessity
of vindicating himself was hard. He ought to be
released from all reserve before he attempted it. He
was now callial on to plead in chains. This was what
the-feeling of British justice could not require. By
the humanity of our law, the fetters were struck off,
before the trial could commence; but here there was
no release, and he must plead with the fetters still on.
He confessed that he suffered under another feeling,
in anisrering such a charge. The bare circumstance
of replying to an accusation of filsifying and fabri-
cating evidence, if a man had the least spark of ho-
nourable feeling, must appear to him no inconsider-
able degradation. He could not think that they were
called upon, by such an accusation as this, to make
any defence. There must be the strongest presump-
tion—there must be proof, before any one ought to
have it imposed upon him—to plead not guilty to the
basest and foulest charge that could be preferred
against the vilest of mankind. It was about seven
years since he had been entrusted by his Sovereign
with the most important duty to which this accusa-
tion referred—it was a duty imposed upon him, for
no man would be frantic enough to desire to have it
to fulfil. This duty bad been entrusted to him with
expressions of personal confidence from his Sovereign,
which be should never forget, and which he hoped
r.o part of his conduct in the course of the business
had forfeited. He had been appointed, in conjunc-
tion with his two NobleFrientes, the LurdChancellor
(Erskine), and the Secretary of State for the Home
Departrueut (Spencer). They had been named by
'his Majesty, of his own motion, without any sugges.
lion from him. But he hoped he gave no b4ht indi-
, cation of the integrity of the manner in wlech he
irt-
' tended to perforne.that duty, when lie suggested that
it would be desirable for them to have the assistance
of the Lord Chief Justice of England. No man
could believe that if any improper thought had shot
across his mind, the Lord Chief Justice should have
been the person selected by him as his associate.—
He was farther anxious to say—because it contra-
dicted many infamous falsehoods, not of the present
day only.-that he never knew of the subject to which
the duty in question related, tillit was formally com-
municated to him preparatory to its being brought
' before him officially. Till within a very few days
before the signature of the warrant, he had never
bard that there was a rumour, insinuation, or suspi.
1 eon on the subject. So far was it from being true,
that' he had been biassed by any political engage-
meets : there was as little foundation for this, as tor
he kuew nut how many other falsehoods. His Noble
Friends, he believed, were not ignorant, and he him-
self was certainly well aware, that the task they had
to perform was one of great difficulty. Nothing but
a sense of duty could rase prevailed upon him to
undertake it. He knew that they were subjecting
themselves to obloquy and slander, from. power on

tinetide, troth tadttnn oft the oth They et had
thsfinfore, no protection belt in the undeviatingrecti
tude of their conduct, and to that alone they looket
for protection. He did not intend to enter into s
narrative of the manner in which the office had been
executed. He was prevented from doing so, not
merely by the form, hat by the substance and essence
of his oath. He could not state the questions and
the answers, and argue noire the effect and bearing
of each, without sacrificing to his personal gratifica-
tion in this particular, the consciousness which he
now had of not having swerved in the whole course
of proceeding from the ttrictest rectitude. If he were
to enter upon the subject, and lay the whole before
their Lordships, he was convinced that he should go
home justified in their opinion from this imputation;
' but he should go home loaded with a sense of demi-
' sit, as great as that from which he had relieved him-
self. He attached different degrees of importance
:to different calumnies. If he should be assailed on
the ground of want of forAality in the proceedings,
he left the matter to those who thought themselves
better lawyers than LordsEllenborough and Erskine,
end Sir Samuel Romilly. If these great luminaries
of the law should be proved to have erred, he should
not blush to own that he had participated in the
.error. But he did not. wish to shelter himself under
the authority of their great names. He confidently
asserted, that when the time came when the subject
'could fairly come into discussi.in, every thing would
24year-to have been done correctly in the course of
ate examination. He spoke of the subject as it would
appear upon the face of the authentic documents,
• not as it might be collected from pocket narratives,
fabricated he knew not when- -concealed for seven
years he 'mew not where—and aow brought forward
-to blast the characters of those who might, by possi-
bility, have been left without any means of defence :
but as long as there was a spark of justice remaining
the very meanest of mankind could not be condem-
ned on such a production. By such evidence they
ought not to be tried or condemned. If upon the.
original examinations, authentie-md by the signa-
tees of the Commissioners and the witnessel, it
should appear that there was any thing liable to ob-
jection, he admitted that they must abide by the con-
sequences. Before it was possible to discuss the
subject. with any chance of arriving at an accurate
conclusion, it was necessary they should have the
whole of the documents produced ; and upon these
terms he should be ready, as far as he was personally
concerned, at any time to come to his trial, He
trusted, however, that neither he nor his Noble Col-
leagues would do any thing that should look like a
violation of confidence • a fault so characteristic of
the present time, and which threatened the most. mis-
chievous consequences. If the judgment of Patlia- 1
ment and the public should be .Ig4inst thein on the
point of form, it would give him undoubtedly a
painful feeling : but this was nothing compared
to the storm of indignation which he felt at being
accused, together with his Noble Friends, of the
foulest crime with which any hurnan being could
be charged. They had no means of knowing
what had been said, except from rumcur ; but what-
ever had been said, he knew the impression wi.ich
had been produced on the minds of his friends. The
charge was, that they had substituted in the re: m
ot the original Minute a fabricated Minute, differ-
ent in form and purport, anti leading to a different
conclusion from the original authentic Minute.—
That tlitre was one Minute, consisting of question
and answer, which was the real one—that them was
another which was forged, and falsely reported to be
authentic. It might havehappened,that at the distance
of seven years they could have nothing but assertion
to oppose to as base an imagination as ever was har-
boured by man—but he thanked God they were not.
, left in this situation. Their defence. existed in the
original Minute, in the hand-writing of the Chief Jus-
tice, in the very words and form 111 Which the evi- •
deuce was given by the witness. It was taken down
by his Noble and Learned Friend, at the time men-
tioned in the document, in the presence of the wit-
ness—read to the witness certainly—he believed read
by the witness. This was the only Minute—it was
not in the form of question and answer ; and upon
the face of the Minute itself there were various
' corrections, so as to make it convey exactly the
sense and meaning of the witness. He could not
have instructed Sir S. Romilly how to have taken'a
Deposition. If he had felt it a difficulty, be should
rather have applied to Sir S. Romilly. In the absence
of Sir Samuel Romilly, who could he more properly
fixed upon to take down the evidence than the Chief
Justice of England, who was, of all others, the most
peculiarly conversant with taking down evidence,
upon whose accuracy in the discharge of this duty,
as he himself had stated, the property and lives of
the subject might depend ? Hitherto his conduct
bad been unimpeached in the discharge of his duty,
and he hoped, this would not be the case in which
he should be found to have prostituted his function,
his station, and his character. His Lordship con-
cluded by expressing his regret, that they had been
compelled to adopt this course to refute the calumny,
and to do any thing that might appear to have a ten-
dency to provoke disciitsion upon a subjt c:, in regard
to which it was of the last importance that discussion
should, if possible, be avoided.
Earl SPENCER deeply regretted that any thing 1
should have occurred to render it necessary to men-
tion the subject at all to their Lor;lthips ; but, how-
ever sensible he might be of the public inconvenience
of such a proceeding, he could not, after what had
passed, refrain from saying a few words. It would
be in vain for'him to attempt to say any thing for the
purpose of enforcing what had already been said by
his Noble Friends. He had only to obwrve, that he
completely adhered to ail that they had uttered—and
that he perfectly agreed with them in the feelings
they had expressed. He could not but feel ashamed
at being called upon to defend !liaised against a
charge of being concerned in one of the foulest con-
spiracies that was ever ascribed to man. If they had
been guilty of any thing like it, they would have been
unworthy, not only ot addressing their Lordships,
but of being admitted into any respectable society
whatever. He would, however, content himself at
present with declaring, upon the honour of a Peer,
and the faith of a Gentleman, that what , his Noble
krieuds had stated was perfectly collect and accu-
rate. Nothing could be more agreeable to him than
that this affair should be investigated in a Court bt
Justice. They were only prevented by reasons of
public policy from completely convincing their Lord-

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,:shlol, hut the public) tit the Injustice that hal been
done them.
Earl MOIRA Was anxious to take this op.ortu.
dity of clearing himself from certain charges of a
different nature from those which had been made
against his Noble Friends. He had felt the delicacy
of the subject, and the strong reasons for avoid;ng
all mention of the subject in Parliament—but it he
were to remain silent, after the statements of his No-
ble Friends, his silence might be construed to proceed
from his inability to answer the charges had been
made against him. His Noble Friends had adverted
to the degradation of being. even called upon to de.
fend themselves against a charge of fabricating eei.
dente—but how humiliating must it be to him, to be
called upon to defend himself against a charge of at-
tempting secretly and covertly to procure evidence
against any person whatever ? Without making any
improper disclosures, or introducing at./ inipreTee
matter, he might be permitted to give an ow I.ne of
the facts connected with the charge ag.tiwt him, so
as to enable their Lordships to full. Av tiara, in the nb-
servatains he should feel it l.is t.a:y t make in his
defence. First, then, he, never *As at the p..i.e v. here
he was stated to haver been, tor the purpose of
covertly collectiag es idonue, at any time shah% the
proceedings ,on this sti':je‘t. He was neither there.
tier in its vicinity, at any tint., during the period us
criest;oll. He not only said tsp. but, on the faith
and honour of a Gentlsm.ui, he had never sponta-
neously sought for information on the subject; and
be introduced.this, and desired it sight be wore virti•
cttlarli attended 4), on account of the aae,zions with
which Air intended to follow itip--stansety, that he
not only never spontaneously sought for ii.iormation
on the subject, bat that he had never been instigated
to do so-7-(Hcar' hear.) as a Councillor in a
Certain'quarter, he considered himself as bound by
his oath to enter into the examination of evidence of
fered in matters of deep concern to the honour of the
individual, and the imerests of the public. With re-
gard to the examination of a servant of a certain No-
ble Lord, that had not proceeded from any spouts.
nevus motion of his (Moira.) The Noble Lord in
question bad solicited an audience, and had com-
municated most unpleasant, and unwelcome infor-
mation, that the subject was the talk of the whole
vicinity. and that a clamour existed in regard w
it—(Hear, hear.) kle ( Lord Moira) had, however,
suggested, that there might by possibility be some
misapprehension in the case, and that it might be
proper, before any further proceeding took place, tLat
the servant should be examined before him ; and w
far was he from attempting to procure evidence by
any improper means, that the report which he made
was, that it did not appear to him to be necessary to
take any further steps, and that it was not pi oved that
the subject was the common talk of the vicinity, or
that it had excited any clamour. He had never men-
tioned this affair to the CoMmissioners who were ah
terwaids appointed ; and it had remained unnoticed
until it unforturately came forth in the shape of a
slanderous imputation against him, of having resorted
to secret and improper practices in the examination
of witnesses. It has been stated also, that' he had
been guilty of tampering with witnesses, in the ins-
tance of two medical Men who had been called upon
to give evidence. he recollected that an unwiL.ng
witness, a certain servant (Fanny Lloyd)) had stated,
that one tithe medical men in question had madean

observation which called for attention. Considitii.g
the nature' of that observation, the quarter from
whence it cattle, and the unwitting :tanner in which
'the communication was made, it %omit.: have peen
s:ngulari indeed, if seine *equity Lad not taker, pram
in lizard to it. if he had erred as to the most ripper
mannet of eroceeding in that iLquity, he thus. sub-
mit to the consequences ; but he had suggested, that
the most proper and delicate method wound be to
send for these persons to meet the Magistrate (Mr.
Conant) at his house, to have their examinations i. k it
there, rather than to send Went to Mariborough-sueet
to deliver their depositions in the usual manner.--
Doctor Mills was accordingly rent tor, but it was
timnd that he was nor the person stated to have made
the observation alluded to, and he was discussed and
desired to send his partner. He believed he did make
use of some such expressions as those mentioned by
that partner ; but he could she* by Mr. Conant's
testimony, if necessary, as well as by other means,
that the expressions in question were not used in a
conciliating tone, or in such a manner as to evince
any with on his part to procure evidence in favour cif
a particular side. So far were they from being used
in such a way, as to render them liable to be under-
stood in that sense which the person in question was
evidently desirous of attaching to them, that they wet,
in reality intended to operant as a severe check upon
him, on account of the pert manner in which he gaws_
his evidence. He (Lord Moira) then believed, and
he still believed, that the man aid make use of the
observation ascribed to him. He did not mean that
this s:atement of his be;iet should operate as a charge
against the individual who had been the subject of
the observation ; but it was very possible that this
rash and random observation might account for ad
the strange stories that had been going about with
respect to the circumstances to which it ref:Tred. It
was o!vious that it would hive been very desirable
for the person in question to get rid of the effect if
an acknowledgment, that he had made, use of such an
observation, on account of the essential injury, which,
it the tact had been proved upon .him, he /mot in
consequence have sustained in his profession. These
were the only two points to which be would at pre-
sent advert—irregularly, perhap;, but lie trusted that
the observations which he had made would not be
without their use ; for it was well that the public
should have no partial understatuang of the state-
ments which had gone abroad. He was glad that lit
had not been called up:in to leave the country, betels;
this opportunity was afforded him of maki:ig the
statement which he had now given to their Lercships
The Noble Lord said, be wished also to notice, tilat
it had been most falsely insinuated against him in
print, that he had becn in the habit of sending ano-
nymous paragraphs to an evening papir, tot the put.
pose of calumniating the character of a female of the
highest rank. He spurned at the vile imputation,
and could solemnly declare, that he never but once
in his life sent an anonymous paragraph to a news-
paper, and that was on a political subject, at the re-
quest of another Gentleman. But as to any anony-
mous paragraph, calculated to hurt the character or
the feelings of any individual, lie trusted their Lords
ships would do him the justice tohekieve, that there