Star.
London, England, 1801-06-09 00:00:00

HOUSP. OF CO!vINI01.

A Meets from the Lords requeßed the Hoaremould emu.
taut:team to their. Lortifhips the Reports of the Committees
relative to the cligibilitt of PQrfons in Holy Orders to fit in the
Houle of Commons.
Lord HAWK/BRUIN Witbdrew his notice relative to the
Troops at Minorca.
Some converfatioa arofe relative to the remaining Articles of '
Supply and the Fait India Budget; when Mr. W. DUNDAS
having agreed to poßpone the latter till Friday, the CHANCEL-
Loa of the EICMCVIR (aid the notice he had given thould
ftaud,for Wednefday.
A Meffage from the Lords informed the Houfe his Majefty
had appointed two o'clock to-morrow, at Kew, to receive the
Addrefs of both Houfes (relative to the promulgation of the
Statutes). The Secretary at War, Meffm Abbott, Corry, and
Steele, were then appointed to accompany the Lords with the
Paid Addrefs.
Sir W. SCOTT moved for a Committee of the whole Houfe
to-morrow, to confider of enabling his Mikity to grant to the
Judges of the Vice-Admiralty Courts at Jamaica, Martinique,.
and Halifax, certain Annual Cotnpeofations under certain
regulations.
The kith DR-qualification Bill went through. a Committee,
and the Report was ordered to be received cc—marrow.
The Bill to regulate the Offices of Public Notaries was read
'a feermitime, and on the motion of Mr. Lu silts GTON referred
to a private Committee, in order, as he fold, to have the Bill
rendered more completely applicable to the local elrcumitances
of Ireland and Scotland, to which the operation of the meafure
was, contrary to Its original deign, to be extended.
Mr. Aaacerr moved that the 'Hai Eledtion Bill thould be
read a fecood time.
After fame obfervations by Sir JOHN SINCLAIR, as to the
propriety of affunilatipg the qualifications necetlary for Englith
Members to thole perpoled by the prefect Bill; which idea
Mr. ABSOTT oppofed as entirely uuneeeffary, the Bill was
read a feeond time, and committed for to-morrow.
The kith Spirit licence Bill, the frith Expiring Laws Bill,
and frith Diftillery Bill, were reads third time and palled.
On the motion of Mr. Bawoo e, a Committee was appointed
to confider the handing orders relative to !net:Cure Bills, with•
diredtioos to communicate with the Lords' Committee on the
fame fubj.dt.
Mr. Be. AGO, brought up the Report of* Committee on the
Importation of Tea into Ireland free of Duty. The Refolu-
tions were read and agreed to, and a Bill ordered purfuant
thereto. _

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Mr. BRA COE prefented a Bill for the more drafts] recovery
of Debts due to the Crown, and for the better Adminiftration
of Juftice throughout all parts of the United Kingdom ; which
was read a brit and ordered to be read a fscond time to-morrow.

14r. VANSITTART brought in a Bill to regulate the Trade
of Malta; which was read a Ertl time, and ordered to be read
a &coed time to-morrow.
COPYRIGHT IN IRELAND.
Mr. Cotter, in coafequenee of his notice on Friday, rote to
make 64 motion on the fubjed of Copyright in Ireland. He
Warred, that the Policy of the Parliament of England had
given to authors a property in their literary produdlons: this
was not the cafe in Ireland. In this country, by the Ad of
Queen Anne, authors were allowed the Copyright of their
works for fourteen years; and by an Ad of his prefent Ma-
jetty, the privilege was granted to the two Univerfities in per-
pettuty. The object of the meafure he had to propofe wag, to
give to authors in Ireland the !erne term is dish. works as au-
thors in England ; and to grant to the Ustraelity atDahlls the
fame privilege as that enjoyed by the Uslassithas Odle sow
try. Ha was authorifed to fay, that tbs.
would be received with thee:S.6.o =CC=
gratitude by the Univerfit4 k was Issasaary to
fay more upon a fubjed The sigh was &6r-
able, not cagy is Welt, but Oro es le wassidolibleas albelbte
the habits of tlsetwo countries, ha ssary nes& Nt Nowa
by moving for leave to bring Is a Ell hit dm farther Snow
ragement of Learning in the Ceiba* Mspalsof Great Debbi
and Ireland, by (scoring the Copyright al to the authors
of fuel Books for the time thatle Idea

Mr. Knox, the reprefentative of the Univerfity of Dublin,
returned thanks in the name of that Lambed Body, for the at-
tention of the Hon. (imam= to its biterees, and thole of Ire-
land in generaL

MISR MEMBERS EXEMPTION, DUTY BILL.
On the Order of tht Day for the commktal of this Dill,
Mr. Asstrrx role to move that the Order mould be dlf-
charged, with a view to follow it by a motion, that the Bill
mould be withdrawn, as upon examination he found that it
contained fame very exceptionable provifions, which it was his
intention to omit.

The motion being put, tl.c. Bill, after Come remarks from
Dr. Lamaism', Mr. Tanen, and Mr. Coley, was with-
drawn. and leave given for a new Hill to be brought in.
Mr. Costar brought in a Bill to exempt the frith Members
and otban from the payment of certain Duties, which was read
firft time, and ordered is be read a fecund time, and printed.
BRICKS AND PROM lONS.
Mr. VANSITTAIT gave notice that he Ihould to-morrow
move the Houle to rcfolve into a Committee to confider on the
proprie•y of placing an additional duty on Bricks made in Great
Britain of a cettain fize--alfo for a Committee to confider of
exempting certain artklcs of Provifion which had been import-
ed into this country during the late fcarcity, tiara the payment
of Audtion Duties.

DR. CAMPBELL'S DIVORCE BILL.

-.
The Houk refolved into a Committee on this BM, when
Lame converfation took pLace u to the propriety of prof ing the
meafure in fo thins tioufe and it was agreed, that the Chair-
man fhould report progrefs, and alk leave to fit again, which
was ordered.

VOTE OF CREDIT.

Lord linwicessuer prefented the following
Meffage from hii Majeity :
G. R.

As the State of public bufmefs may loon enable his Mikity
to put an end to the pretext Seffion of Parliament, hie Mikity
thinks proper to recommend to the Hoare of Commons to
nuke fuch further provffion as may be neccfrary to defray
thine taperers which have been incurred, and if which no fpe-
cific ettunates have been laid before hutment ; and to take
fuck other matures aa the exigencies of affairs ntay more.
The Ceasicit.t.oa of the Excasosisa moved,
that. this Meil:ige thouid be referred to the Com.
mittee of Supply.
Mr. Garr fait!. he should not object to the Mar.
Cage being referred to the Committee of Supply,
but as it mentioned the approaching termination
of Parliament, and this- Vote of Credit might'
be a meafure which, inflead of affording a hope
of peace, ratherimplied that a war, more eaten.
five Mite operation, was to be continued, he wifhed
to know whether the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer meant to terminate the prelim felfion with.
out making any communication to the Houfe on
the fubjei of the negotiations between his Ma.
jelly and the enemy, by which the Houle might
be enabled to judge of the fincerity of thole pro.
feffions from which the Hour; had derived fuch
fAtisfattion?.

The CHANCELLOR of the ExcalQVIR obferved,
that with refpea to the fineerity of theft profef-
(ions which the Honourable Gentlentan fa id he had
made fo much to the fatisfattgion of the Houk, he
was glad to find his proftflions had given fads-
fattion, anti no his fo, that the Houfe fkoold
have given him credit for his fincerity. How
far it might be deferable or prudent to lay before
the Houle the Rate of the negociation between his
Majefty and the enemy, he was really not at pre•
fent enabled to fay; but the Honourable Gentle-
man and the Houfe might be afnred, that as loon
as any thing dccifife did take place, he fhould
think hie duty to advi4 his Maje,ily immediately
to snake a efunmuuicativo to 'Parliament upon the

fubjett ; or if, without affetting the negotiations,
fuch communication could be !Rade; his Majefty
thould certainly be advifed to snake it. The Ho-
nourable Gentleman had founded a fuppofition
from his Majelly's mane, that the operations of
the war were to be extended ; but he begged that
no fuel thing might be concluded from the mef-
, rage of this day. As to the probable amount of
the fum he ihould feel it his duty to propofe, large
as it was, it could by no means juQify any fuel;
motion. Indeed be had no fcruple in now declar-
ing, that he meant to propofc a vote of 2,000,0001.
The neceffity of fuch a fum arofe from the in-
creafed demands for naval fervice ; it had been
found by the accounts of the Admiralty and Tran-
fport Board that the expences of the naval de-
partment, in confequence of the extraordinary
preparations at fea, had greatly exceeded the efti-
mates laid before Parliament, and his Majeity's
confidential fervants had, from the information of
thofe Boards, been led to believe that the prefent
grants would be infufficient for the fervices of the
year. It was, therefore, to naval fervices the fum
required was intended to be applied.—The Meffage
was referred to the Committee of Supply.

MIL/VARY COLLEGE.
The Houfe having• refolved itfelf into a Com-
mime of Supply, • ,
The SECRETARY at WAR Paid, it was his duty to
call the attention of the Committee to the fubjeet
of his Majefty's Meffage relative to the eflablifh.
ment of a College for Military inftruelion and edu-
cation, and• for grounding in'the rudiments of mi.
litary fcienee, thole who may afterwarishold com.
iniffions in the army. Another collateral objeet pro.
pofed in this inftitution was, to affift Military
Officers of longer (landing in going through the
efficient duties of their Ration, particularly officers
on the Staff, in the Quarter-Mailer's department.;l
1
He Rated this to be an important branch of the fer.
vice, to which belonged all the regulations relativ "
to encampments, &c. This part of the inftituti
propofed to affift the profeffional ftudies of thirty
Officers who were to be attached to the Staff of the.
army. This branch of propofed Military inftrnis.
tion appeared to him to be conceived on juft mili-
tary principles, and would comprehend direeions for
the choice of camps and politions; the belt me .
of attacking or defence • of advancing or retreat.
in.g ; and was calculated to afford confiderable fee..
vice to thiCommander inChief of an army in form-
ing his military arrangements. At High Wycombe
an ufeful inftitution ofthis nature hadbeen formed,
under, General Jarry, but upon too limited a
kale. The plan now propofed, was much of the li
fame nature as that for the formation of the Staff
in the Pruffian, Auftrian, and French armies ; and
it came alfo recommended by the Commander in

Chief, and a Corps of Genera Officers. The Ju-
nior department of it, it was propofed, thould cost-
a of goo young men, the Eons of officers who
had done their country fervice, with an appoint-
of proper Profeffors ; and as the Inßitution
was to be entirely of a Military nature, it was pro-
poled to be governed by the difcipline ufually kept
tip by his Majefty's forces, with fuch regulations as
were adapted to the Rate of youth. The experi-
ence of the Taft ten years bad taught us, that if an
army was to be kept up for felf-delenee, it ought to
be upon the principle of the fcientific infirudion
was
of the officers who compofed it, without which
neither difcipline nor valour would prove of effen-
tial fervice. It was the refult of all modern ex-
perience that war was reduced to a fcience, and
mull be cultivated as fuch ; nor could much ad-
vantage be derived from Military manoeuvres, if we
were deficient in (kill to defend ourfelves agajnft
the envy and malicious intentions of the enemy,
who watched in order to attack, and if poffible to
deftroy us at every poffible opportunity, All
thofe nations who bad negleded the Rudy of mili-
tary fcience had funk into n Rate of abjefl depen-
dance on others more Ikilful, whilft in proportion
as a nation had cultivated military arts, it had
been found expedient to form eftabliftimeats of this
nature with a view to preferve and extend the
knowledge of military fcience. Neither difcipline
nor ceconomy could be introduced in an army where
military knowledge and fcience were wanting. It
might be anted whether there was any thing in
the local fituation of Great Britain or Ireland to
render fuch an inftitution ufeful or neceffary ? He
acknowledged that an infular fituation rendered
us lefs exposed to attacks, added to which that
the high Rate of difcipline as well as undaunted
valour of our navy, had let us more at cafe from
the apprehenfion of invasion ; but at the fame time
be was perfuaded that no prudent man would fup-
pole, that the fleet alone could undertake, at all
times, and under all circumftances, effedually to
protect the widely extended emits of Great Bri-
tain and Ireland from infult at all points. An
army of tome kind was abfolutely neceirary for
home defence ; and it ought to be in fuch a (late,
and to be fo inftruded, as to enable it to encounter
any_inviding enemy.
Here the Sic AAAAA r at WAIL proceeded to pafs
high encomiums on the illations Prince, the gal-
lant Commander in Chief in this country, Who
might be Paid to have new-created the army within
a few years; and whole zeal, diligence, and pa-
triotic views could be exceeded by none. He was
at once the Protedor of the deferring Officer, and
the Soldier's Friend. Zeal, alacrity, and enter-
prise were the charaderiftics of Britifh Officers;
loyalty, and a molt determined courage dillin-
guthed both Officers and Men, which had never
filtered a Rain, and he trifled never would.--.
All that was wanting to Britill Officers was a
more frequent opportunity of obtaining a feientific
knowledge of their profeffion. It
.was true there
had been men of great and uncommon genius in
thisprofeffion, a Marlborough, a Caftan, a
Wolfe, a Stuart, and an Abercromby ; but it was
to an Inftitution of the nature now propoftd, that
the Country mutt look for an able fupply of fuch
Officers. The fyftem of modern British education
did not afford fufficient opportunity to young men
intended for the fcience of arms to attain a know-
ledge of the rudiments of their profeffion. In the
Navy, a young man entered early into a courfe Of
inftrudions, and mutt pafs through a rigid exa-
mination by Competent judges, before be could
receive a Lieutenant's coniznifcon ; but in the

Army tae cafe was different. A yonng man en.
treed into the Army at s 6 or t 8 years of age,
whilft the public fchools had afforded him little
more than a knowledge of grammar and the dead
' languages. In the opinion of many Officers, an
Inftitution of this nature was the only thing want.
ing to the Britifh Army. With this advantage,
young Officers would emulate their brethren on
the fea, and be equally entitled to the gratitude
and confidence of their country. Such an Inflitu-
tion was not novel. There was the Royal Naval
Academy at Portfmouth, and the Royal Inftitu.
tion.at Woolwich for Cadets in the Artillery and
Engineers; but however important there had
proved, they could only be confidered as futrordi.
nate parts of a whole, and if the Academy for Ar-
tillery, Ike. had been found fo ufeful, how much
more would this now propofed, which had refped
to the gmeral Staff of the Army! Some judg-
nient Might be formed of the utility of fuch an
Efiablifkment from what had been cgirded upon a
very limited reale at High Wycombe, at the fmall
annual expence of isoa. Of the Officers'educated
there, nine had been found qualified to atlas ant.
ants to the Quarter-Malierieneral of the Army;
and of thefe, four were now. with the army of
Egypt, and had been found of the molt important
fervice ; befides thefe, fix remained qualified to
join the Staff of the Army. The benefits of this
Inftitution had alieady extended to nineteen Offi-
cers, who had joined their regiments, and twenty..
four now remained there under a courfe of inftrud.
tion. An objection to the propofed plan might
poffibly be flatted upon a Conflitutional ground,
that the Houle ought always to have a Conftitu-
tional influence over the Army ; but the propofed
grant would no more take this influence out of
their hands than any other Annual Vote for the
Supply of the Army. Such a Syflcmatical
tution was more neceffary now than ever, when
France, our inveterate Enemy, had obtained four-
fold means of carrying on War againft us, and
from the formidable afped of the political horizon
of Europe, when Peace itfelf, under prefent eir-
cumftances, can be but a hollow Armed Truce;
and when the envy, hatred/ and.uncharitablenef;
of almoft all Europe continued to perfecute this
Country. Was it not then incumbent on Parlia.
ment to ftrengthen both the arms of our public
feenrity. Mr. Yeast then moved" that a fum not
exceeding go,oool. be granted to his Majefty for
the purehafe of lands, and for building a Military
College, for the ferrite of the year t 8ot."
Mr. Jonas withed the Hon. Gentleman had not
made ufe of language which feeined to militate
againft that of the Right Hon. the Chancellor of
the Exchequer, on the fubjedt of peace. He had
no material ohjetlict to the motion, but bethought
a fimilar Inflitution ought to be eftablilbed .for
the inftrudion of Officers in the Navy.
Mr. MARTIN Paid he was fUrptired to hear the
Hon. Gentleman (Secretary at War) allude to a
public (landing army in this country, which was
perfedly unconftitutional. He withed- tofee the
time when there fhould be nothing to. defend Ql4
England but her Navy and her Militia. •
The SICRITARY at Wan Paid, the propofed In-
flitution had no connection with a (landing army,
fince, if the Houfe chore to difcontinue the Army
they might difcontinue this Inflitution Rifts,
Me.Wissaaroacx fupported the motion, which
was agreed to.
The SICIRTARY at WAR Paid, it W. in agita.
lion to inereafe the number of Soldiers' Children
to be educated from soo to rood; end it was
found that this could be done at a comparatively
moderate eapence. This fum of ,o,ocol. had al-
ready been granted.; and it was now found that
an additibnal fum of iloool. would be fufficient to
complete the necelTary additions to the Buildings,
and the arrangements for the number .propofed to
be added to the Inftitution. He laid the expose?.
of the whole would not exceed the anniral rum of
ao,oool. He thought it was derogatory to the
dignity of that Houfe that foldiers fhould be under
the necaity of contributing any thing towards
fuch an iniliturion ; it was therefore intended that
the runt heretofore contributed by them fhould be
difcontinued. He then moved...." That a cum not
exceeding 84721.9 d. be granted to his Majefty fur
the purpofe of enlarging the Premifes and other-
wife encreafing the Royal Inflitution for Soldiers'
Children."

Mr. WINDHAM Lad, the plan was exaely fimilar
to that he had the honour to propofe to the Houfe
Lift year; but on a larger kale, which he was glad
to find. He approved of the regulatiOn for dif-
continuing the aid drawn from the fQldiers for the
Inaitution.

Mr. WILBERFORCE. allied what was the preeife
nature of the Initinition?

The &mammy at WA& faid it was for the edu-
cation of the children of foldiers; and that a pre.
ference was to be given to orphans. •
Mr. O'HARA did not approve 'nf creating dif.
tinaions betvieen foldieis and their fellow fubjeds,
which the preftnt ineaftire he thought had a ten.
dency to do.
Dr. Lawa sacs thought it not altogether confti-
rtutional to divide the foldiers from their fellow cl-
titens ; yet as a meafure of public humanity, be
, .
would not oppofe it.
The SICIRTART at WAIL raid, that Boys at the
age of 14 were to have-an tiptiOn of becoming fol-
diers or being put to trade.
After a few other obfervations from Mr.Wtsp.
HAM, Mr. WICBRILRORC‘ Dr. LAWRIIICR, and
Mr: Crsfiatt4e the motion was put, and agreecho.
laDIRIPIITIF
Mr. Baapc a broufht up the Report of the In-
demnity Bill.
The Sramtva having put the queftion far taking
the Report into conliciemtion.
Sir F. Buanart faid, he held in his hand a Peti•
tion from a perfor. of the name of Gentle Bilth*
praying that the Bill might not be pat d into a
law. l'he Petition was read, and was r to
thole prelented on Friday.
Sir F. &taus?? again role, and faid, he bad
another Petition &gala she Bill, fimilar to that be
had jull prefenteci.
Mr. Bakst faid, he could not confent to the
tenting of of fo many Petitions, whan his MajaY'l
Minifters bad not an opportunity of anfwering the

charges contained in them, and he did net fee wh^ t
good purpofe could be anfaered6yprefentingthem.
The CHANCELLOR of the ERCH EQI-1 ER laid he
felt that a great deal was due to what had fallen
from his Honourable Friend. He thought when
the petition was prefented by the Honourable Ba-
rmet, that the perfiwi petitioning would be al'•
fe3ed by the operations of the Bill ; but he was
row fatiefied there was not any provifion in the
Bill which deprived th.e. Petitioner of redrefs in
Courts of Juftice ; and hesagreed w iilt hs Honour-
able Friend that Petitions ought not to be re-
ceived which could not be anfwered ; and it cep%
tainly was not perfelly ortigrly to detain the
Houfe reading long petitions ; they retarded the
public Wind's ; for how, he allied, was the
bufinefs of the Route to to be got through, if their
time was to be taken up hearing long petitions
read? Such petitions only ferved to fwell the
Journals of the Houfe ; and he thought the Houfe
ought to be upon its guard not to fuller its regu-
lar proceedings to be unneceffarily interrupted...
Mr. J. H. Tooite faid,he thought the Petitioners
againti the prefent Bill flood in fo peculiar a &n-
--ation that they were particularly entitled to the
indulgence of the Houfe. They had no other
Means of making their complaints known, and it
would be peculiarly hard if they were prevented pe-
titioning that Houfe. With refpea to the Petition
prefented that night by his Hon. Friend, it cer-
tainly had a reference to the Bill under confide-
ration ; as, if it were to pats, the Petitioners would
be deprived of the means of obtaining redrefs.
It was not a Petition complaining of Jailors
.--it complained of the concs& of 111agiftrates,
who certainly would be indemnified by the pall
fing of the Bill. He declared he was unacquaint-
led with the perfons who petitioned that Honfe,
but he felt it his duty to defend their right to
do fo • and he thought if they had even evinced
a little impatience in their language, even that
Mould he overlooked, when their (offerings were,
taken into contideration. They dcferved compaf
Pion—they alight to be permitted to empty their
minds to that Houfe. It was all the recompcnce
they would receive. They could have no redrefs
at law ; it was in vain for them to feck for it—if
the Bill were never to pafs theyhad better not feel•
redrefs at law. He had, fuffered himfelf, and he
never obtained any. As to the precept Bill, it vAs
his firm belief that his Majefty's Minifters knowing
that they had kept men in prifon for years upon faits
evidence, had brought forward the Bill for the
purpofe of fuppreffing com?laint. They could
not be alarmed at the profpeft of heavy damages
being given againft them, and he did not believe
that his Majetty's Minifters had any fears about
what might be difclofed by (pies. It was made
• tip to get rid of the banters altogther. But he
did not think the prefent Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer. or Secretary of State, would do as their
Tredeceffors had done.
The CHANCELLOR of the Excl.' tray ER laid he did
not mean to oppofe the prefenting of Petitions, but
he thought it would be a prudent meafure in the
Honfe not to faller its time tribe taken up in hearing
complaints that were not conneeted with the Bill.t
M. 'Time sr afaed what redrefs the Petitioners
had, if not againft his Majefty's IvUnillers ? The
Jailors could Tay they treated the Petitioners in the
fame manner they treated all Other Prifoners.
The CHANCELLOR of the Etenagyae contended
that the Bill did not prevent the Petitioners from
bringing anions.
Mr. WHtraasAD fupported the right of the Pecs-
isle to Petition, and to make their Petitions as lens
as they thought proper, if they were couched in
refpeftful language. He was ferry to hear fuch
expreffions as had fallen from the Right Honour-
able Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
that Petitions were only taking up the time of the
Houfe.
Lord HAWIZSBORT admitted the right to peti-
tion, contending that it had not been denied by his
Right Hon. Friend ; hut that right ought not to be
abufed ; yet he admitted the difficulty of limiting
it within rules.
Mr. Gear commented with Tome warmth upon
what had filen from the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer; rich and poor had an equal right to peti-
tion that Houfe. Petitions taking up the time of
that Houfe, was a trifling confideration indeed,
when compared with the magnitude of the right of
the people at large.
The CHANCELLOR of the Exc Neely ER explained.
He faid no man was more ready to admit the right
to petition than hirnfelf ; it was a right which he
would regret as much as any man in that Houfe
to fee them deprived of.
Mr. Ws. SMIrK fupported the Petition, as he
thought the prifoners confined under the fufpenficn
of the Habeas Corpus Alf experienced more ri-
gour than was neceffary for fafe cuftody, and that
.the prefent Bill would deprive them of the means
' of obtainn.g redrefs.
Dr. LAW iNca fupported the right to petition,
and coafidered the cafe of the Petitioners againft
the prefent Bill of fo peculiar a nature, that he
thought if they were a little out of form it fhould
be overlooked by the Houfe. He fhouldbe
• he faid, to have the right of petitioning narrowed.
Sir F. &nem. then brought up the Petition.
It was from Joreph Batman, and differed very
little from thole already prefented.
• General Watrots prefented Petitions of a fimi.
lar nature from William Eaftburn and John Bone
—they were all read and ordered to lie on the
table. The Report was read and agreed to, and
the Bill was ordered to be read a third time on
Thurfilay.—Adjourned.
On the Debate on the above Bill on Friday
night, after Mr. 'um!. had fat down, Mr. MAR-
TIN role and faid—ln the tribal fenfe in which In-
demnity has been ufed, and to which it has been
applied in our Statute Book, I may fairly
that in free a fettle, there is no Indemnity afforded
to thole perfons who have lifted under the fufpen-
• lion of the Habeas Corpus Aet—l fay no perfon
indemnified by this Bill, for' pprehendingor
irn-
pnfnning any of his fellow fubjcds is lb indem-
nified as for the doing an unlaw!fri In all thole
Was of Parliament, of which it is matter of com-
.elint by the Gentlemen in Oppofition, that this
isoca'traarcript; IA all thole Statutes per.)

forts are indetnnified, adquitted, and difcharged,
for divers ant done by them, contrary to law.—
The perfons there aggrieved are deprived of all
remedy, after reading upon the Statute Book that
they were innocent, and that thofe perfons, pro-
tense' by that law, were criminals. The tsah
Gco. 11. Indemnifies not Magiltrates ono,, but all
perfons who aned for the prefervation of the pub•
lic peace—That is, thole perfons who did any, the
molt flagrant, an.. again(' the liberty and property
of another, are thus acquitted, provided they com-
mitted fuch an an with a view to ibpprefs rebel-
lion. This then would jail), murder, imprifon.
ment, or the total deftrunion of property. Now,
Sir, I own, that I think it to the credit of this Bill,
that it does not referable fuch Statute:. Gentlemen
all for a precedent.—lf they mean by a pre-
cedent, that it is neceirary to demonarate this to
be a preeile cops of a former Statute, differing only
in time, it mull be confeffed that their objenion
to this Bill will remain unanfwerable : but when
they afk to be fliewn a precedent for fuch a Bill,
I am tempted to defire them to quote a precedent
in the hiflory of the world of fo dangerous and fo
diffufed a confpiracy. If however, they can be
contented with a densordlration, that this Bill af-
fords left immunity to thole who may hereafter
plead it, than their favourite Statute 59 Geo. 11.
and, that perfons impriforted for fuppofed trea-
fonable praniccs, are not by this Bill oppreffed ;
inahnuch as they are only deprived of the right of
bringing anions again(' public officers, in which
fuits they would inevitably havebecn difmilred with
colts had they brought fuch anions to trial. There
propofitions I will endeavour to clernonftrate :—By
the report of the Secret COrridttee it appears,
" that much of the information which has enabled
Government from time to time to deters, and
guard again(' tteafonable projeas, is of a nature
which cannot ever, without ektreme daver, be dif
clofed."—To fanflion this affertion it was hardl:.
aeceffary to.have the report of the Committee.—
I will venture to fay, there was fcarce a man it.
'the Nation who conceived that it would be wilco,

'or the fafety of the country, to difclofe the means
ay which Government were enabled to &tat thoft
confpiraeies. How many perfons who afforded
on this titration the molt valuable information ma)
be now living in France, and enjoying the confi
dente of that Government !—Would it be fir tht
honour of the Britifh Mere to foal the bleoiy fate n:
thole perfons,delivering them up to inflant death
—Would it be wife to deprive the State of the
continuation of Inch intercourfc, fo long As we
have to contend againft the introdudion of rev:
.utionary horrors '?—Would it be jult to pofterity,
by an aft of unelampled gratuitous pet tidy, te
prive them for ever of all advantage refultin,;
from fecret intelligence ?
In Ireland would it be generous to difclofe the
names of thole perfons who made a Stipulation that
they Should not be dikovered ; not from the feat
of meeting thofe they accufed in a Court of Jul-
tice, hut fr.im the wellgrounded apptehenfloa of
being murdered, as molt were, who ever appeared
in any Court to inform or profecute ? Let me new
a& the Hon. and Learned Member, (Mr. Jekyll) if
it would not, under thole circumilances, be as
peeing: it would be affuredly dilhonourable, to dif•
dole all the information by which Government
were enabled to take up perfons fufpeftcd of High
Treafon ? Thus then it becomes abfolutely need-
fary to forbid the difclofing of fuch evidence; but
I this evidence conflitutes the legal Juftification of the
Government ; fo Pays the Report, fo lays reafon.—
Thus then all cannot but agree to fupprefs that
evidence which wouldjujify ; who then, I alk, can
fo unjuft, fo abfurdly unjuft, as not to indem-
nify Government from every conferrence attending
the not producing fuch evidence as might endan-
ger the fecurity of the country ? The moment we
refufe to publilh to all our enemies, and all con-
fpirators, the names of thofe informers, they ought
to dread that moment—there is a demand of the
molt imperative juflice to indemnify thofe I allude
to, not againft the confequence of their own illegal'
alit, but againft the confequences of our nece'ary
polity. It is a miftake to fay that the late Admini.
flration defire this Indeneity—They do not, but the
Country doe:. The late Adminiftration were ready
to meet their accufers, and their accufers are their
calumniators, with evidence in amount to legal
Juftification. They are ready to do fo if the Houle
think it can be done with honour and fefet.y. Let
me afk the Gentlemen on the other fide, if they
think it would be reafonable to deprive the late
Minifters of their jifflificatiois, and then deliver them
up to the malice of numerous enemies, who are as
numerous as the enemies of the Britifh Conftitu-
tion? It is afked, are we to deprive perfons im.
prifoned falfely for Come fix years, of legal re.
dm!: e I anfwer, that from the Report it appears
that in this refped there is not one perfon that
could fuller, for the informations (worn juftified
tho Secretary of State for iffuing, as they would,
I fuppofe, have juftified any Judice of the Peace
in granting his warrant. But they were fix years
confined. How can that regard ibis queftion,
which is 4, Was there !Itch an offence Rated
by information, as juftified a Magiftrate, and a
Secretary of State is one of the higheft Magiltrates,
in feeling a Warrant to apprehend them ? It is
raid the Committee are obliged to judge upon ex
park evidence : to this I anfwer No—they had all
the evidence before them, which it would have
been neceffary for any perfon impleaded to have
produced in cafe an anion was brought, or a Bill
of Indictment preferred againft him. Can any
Lawyer with to infintotte, that a Magiltrate who
grants his Warrant to apprehend perfons charged
with treafon, murder, or rape, is to try thofe fe-
veral perfons? Even the Grand Jury are prevent-
ed from bearing any but evidence on ooe fide, and
tht in Support of the crime imputed to the Pri-
foner.—l cowhide from this, that the Secret Com-
mittee had every neceffary information to decide
this fad, whither perfoeu were ft felt' bythe
order: and &aims the Saretarim of Stets !—Yes
or No. Now, Mr. Speaker. twee me if I fay a
word as to the choofing of that Committee. Geo-
tlemen.on the other Me complain that not one of
their party were chafers, thoughallwete chofen by
ballot. I have often heeled tint et only rpftvibolfet
Want Of depriving fjonnimen dis

which they derive from What is termed the influ-
ence of the Crown, would be 0 allow quellions,
after debate, 0 be determined by Ballot. It is ob-
vioufly true that by this means Government can
retain only that influence which drifts from the
unbiared good opinion of the Houfe of Commons ;
they mull be ferved by fuch as are contented to
do fo without oftentation, and they are liable to
receive injury from every enemy without detec-
tion. The complaint then of the Gentlemen in
Opplition muff be this, that they are not very
popular in this Houfe.—This I will fay, that had
they been as well thought of as perhaps they tray
deferve, that it would not have been in the power
of Treafury lilh, as they are called, to exclude
them. But thofe Gentlemen afk, Why did not
Minifters endeavour to have fome of the Oppoti-
tion put upon the Committee ?—appealing to the
free fenfe of the Houfe, I fear it would not be
Mlble. A 'ballot fpeaks the free fenfc of the
Houle ; and in a ballot they would be defeated,
and the Minifter Matted who endeavoured fuch
influence. Thofe Gentlemen a& again, why not
propofe the names openly to the Houle, efpecially
tome of them ?—Do they then propofe to be in-
debted to the moll avowed and open aes of in-
fluence for their appointment ?-1-This would be in
truth to prove, that the influence of the Crown had in-
creald, we: increnlng, and eared!, ought to be di-
min/bd.

LONDON.

Far the Ship Newt, fee the WI Page.

TUESDAY, JUNE 9.

PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK :

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At a late hour lalt night arrived the Hamburgh
Mail due on Sunday. As was expefted, the in-
telligence from Stockholm thews that the fame
progrefs towards pacification is nrw made vith
that as with the other Powers of the North.—
The Kivu of SWEDEN has by a new Edict
revoked the mit which prohibited all commerce
with England, acrd enjoined that the Englifh be
admitted without woolcftation into the Sweclifh
harbours.

The next Gazette may therefore be expeßed to
announce the removal of the embargo from the
Swediih velfels in cur different harbours.
The mail brings nothing new that is worthy of
credit from Egypt. Any thing deferving of notice
from other quarters, we have given as follows :