Star.
London, England, 1831-08-10 00:00:00

N°. 13,857.

Crawn, let them come to that Tote which would remove
Nliniaters from that station they so unworthily filled.—
(Hear, hear.)
The Duke of WELLINGTON sold it was apparen that
this country had lost the advantageous situation she 3 had
formerly held ; England had lost her former influence and
intimacy with other States. The noble duke then went on
to say, that by the terms of the diplomatic treaty of 1813,
both parties were bound to adhere to au armistice f—a ens.
pension of all hostilities : yet former negociations were
given up. Without a question having been asked the Great
Powers agreed to the separation of the two countries, and the
misfortune was that the Khig of Holland had for the last
ISO years relied upon the support of England. He believed
there was 110 doubt that the election of the King of Belgium
would be attributed to the abandonment of Holland. In a
state of peace with France, England bad no business with
Belgium, except io promote the peace and security of Hol-
land ; no man at an coneetsant with questions of foreign
policy, but must see at once that the interest of the King of
Holland was cnmpletely abandoned by the line of policy
adopted by the present ministers. Except by the King of
England and by the King of the French, the King of Bel.
glum, up to that moment, was not acknowledged; was it
not therefore clear, he asked, that the King of Holland was
abandoned by England ?
Earl GREY, in explanation, said • few words, and
again repeated, when the proper time arrived, he should
be able to vindicate the sourse pursued by his Majesty's
Ministers.

After a few words from the Dukrof WettiNOTON and
Earl Garr,
The LORD CHANCELLOR began by observing that
there was a necessary secrecy required to be preserved in
the present negoclations respecting the foreign policy of
the country. He thanked Clod, that neither lie, nor the
noble lads opposite with whom he had the honour of acting.
bail any share in the responsibility of the unprecedented
andoct of noble lords who promoted these discussions.
If the paws of Maims were endanzered by premature dis-
closures, and the successful issue of negotiations foe peace
disturbed, be the consequences upon the noble marquis
opposite, who peradventure might be careless of results,
but whose supporters did not appear to be quite so
1 careless. (Hear.) Such attempts to drag Government
into premature debates, by snatches of questions founded
upon what was considered to be fact, but which tensed out
to be no fact, in the whole course of his (the Lord Chan-
aloe's) parliamentary or forensic experience were wholly
unequalled. The noble duke opposite had spoken of Eng-
land's having lost her position in the scale of nations, but
what, he would ask, would our ancestors before the revolu-
tion have said ? How would Godolphin and the Duke of
Marlborough have held down their heads and lifted up their
eyes, to heir that England, which had conquered, he (the
land Chancellor) knew not how many countries, had al-
lowed the armies of France at one time to cross the Pyre-
, fiees ? He was surprised to hear some men, for the first
1 time in their lives, talk of England's want of power. But
with respect to Belgium, it had been said that we ought to
support and defend our ancient ally the King oft Holland :
and the burden of the song was, ;hat he had been deserted
Iby England, vs was ireinuated, for .he purpose of promo-
ting the election of the King of Belgium : that England
had promoted that election either directly or indirectly, lie
i denied most peremptorily. Tate noble lord war very fond
lof vituperation--he would not say he was very apt at situ-
, peration, or that the intention was bad, the effect at least
wax harmless. (a laugh,) He had attacked his noble friend
!for appointing relatives to places for •litch they were not
fit. Ills noble friend might have stopped his mouth by
citing a certain trait of desmiant with which the noble
• lord was connected, but to which be ( Lord Brougham)—
! would not further allude. He had not confined his chore-
-1 ration to the noble earl, but had extended them to a body
I which should bave.been the last object of his attacks. If
there watt a body which, in the midst of party feelings and
1 eonflicts, had been, to the credit of British Statesman re-
spected, it was the corps of foreign %lighters representing
t foreign States. (Hear.) They were defenceless—they were
1 strangers, and therefore it was not generous nor hospitable
' to attack them—(hear, hear;) they were the representatives
of foreignimwers, and courtesy demanded that they should
be respected ; they were men, and had, besides their official
I feelings, feelings which had been born with them, and care
I should be taken, lest by irritating those it, lings, they were
! recited to forget the r artititial maraa.r, and compromise
that peace which It was in their power to preserve or to
"destroy. (Hear.) ''hat night, for the first time, he had
beard an attack upon th's body. Ile alluded not to the
attack made upon Prince Talleynind, because the
Prince would disregard it. Ile trusted the ehlia
diplomatists would also die. gard the noble Imre
attacks, when he described them as being men very good for
- merle. He did not say that there was any thing very sat-
castic or pointed in this ; but it was as coarse an attack, alai
coining from a peel, as likely to rankle in their minds, if
not put down by the audience to whom it was addressed—
(hear, hear)—as the happiest epigram. Never had an attack
teen less justified. The getul men to whom the noble lord
had alluded were men singularly endowed with the qualities
of their office; men of great acuteness, Laming, and judg.
meat (he wished others would Imitate them in the latter qua.
lity), anal, above all, men or the most conciliatory manners
towards Government. Ihe } raiees of these individuals, on
his part, would have been indecorous, had they not been ex•
cited by the interests of peace. to ctuclude with a few
words on this Later sultjeci, he (Lord B.) did not consider
peace most safe in the hands of timid and wavering inen,dis.
inch tel to draw the sword in a just cause. He, with the
noble duke, felt that the resources of the country were
adequate to any struggle. This crineiction, at the same
time' did not make hint anxious to draw the sword. because
once drown., he could not say how long it might remain out
of the scabbard—how touch blood 'bight be Atilt. For the
sake of humanity did lie deprecate war as the last of cals.
Milieu, and, when the interest co the Itunuut of the country
was not concerned, as the List of crimes. (II as.)
Lord ABEKDREN.—The noltle earl had laid on the
table a protocol, in which it was stated that there was n,. 4
more objection to publishing it than to publishing ti,e oilier
acts of the conferences. Now, if there was no impropriety
in making that document public, there. could be none in
snaking public those acts of which it was a part. The
foreign conduct of government had evinced such a want of
firmness and of justice, hid been so un-English, that their
lordships would be justified in giving a stronger mark of
their disapprobation than was implied in the present motion.
If there was a question on which all parties were agreed, it
was, that we should preserve strict friendship with Portugal
and Holland. Portugal the noble earl had abandoned to
the tender care of a French Admiral, and towards Hol-
land he had acted with a harshness, a cruelty, com-
patible only with the utter abandonment of the faith
of treaties. In the case of Holland, the noble earl
could not plead the - votes of the government ; for
them they saw a virtuous and beneficent Sovereign, the
descendant of a family of heroes, surrounded by a people.,
free, enlightened, religious, and devoted. (Hear, heat )
He had beard with regret the noble earl and the loaned lord
attempt to disparage that sovereign.; but we always bated
those whom we hats injured. ( Hear.) On the 20th of be.
amber, the Conference declared the absolute independence
of Belgium without consulting Holland. which had it vited -
it to assemble. On the 20th of January the Conference pro-
posed certain terms to the two parties. The King Of the
Netherlands gave, on the 111th of lebruary, a full sod entire
assent. Belgium te.urned to the Conference its communica-
tion with contempt. The Conference declared its resolutieo
to be final, and signified to Belgium, that if on the let June,
at the latest, it did not give ha adherence, an open rupture
with the great powers would be the consequence, and that
Luxemb erg would be occupied by the troops of the German
confederation. Belgium was not to be recognised until at
gave its adherence. On the 21st of. May the Dutch minion t •
gave notice, that were the Belgians not to accede; the Knag
lof Holland would he obliged to resort to. inilitery
means. The Conference repeated to them the:assurance that
it adhered to its resolution. But then was mooted a nuts-
! lion in Belgium, the success of which the noble earl judgid
r of nio:e importance than die observance of pledges—the
election .1 Paine, Leopold. On the arrival ef the depute.
I lion announcing his election. the Conference, without the
cognisance of Holland, drew up eighteet, new articles. The
Ring oi Hallaodrefored to sanction them, aad his moister
had given such reasons fur she Mond, Chit the noble earl,
as 'a man of honour and a gentlem.n, coold out-have read
them without blushing. at. Lebesu declared in tbe Bel-
gian Congress, that Prize.: Leopold. thereby ' bound
himself to prime to In:Igloos Lemberg • and the
other provinces in dispho: Luiremberg, it *4 said, be-
%Need to the Phiratte. 'c Boot, Lemberg im Mamie to
Holland ? (Hear, hear.) Dade* thin •a as rainietionais * .
not the King of 14114nd justified in great rellit: •is of
hwilii. cemb nLotrird"PailllneeriMasston! alemashail dlelallyirdito to
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tour Conference as silk:tear notification hipOns of
'ile armistice, wangled with the declarbßriteg Desch
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Plenipotentiaries. :Of 91st of Nfaj, tile' &itillaid of
June, that Hoila 'Amid main to military mean.. if
I Belgium did not reemmise' die Ofifillei remlotiso of the

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