Star.
London, England, 1804-04-19 00:00:00

TURICE r.

COMSTAIITIWOPLI, Fitt. 20.--. Gen. Baum!, Am-
Istaador of France :it this Court, lately delivered a
Jrlate, requelling the Porte to fir definitively the new
tarif for limiting the duties inwards.
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It is alto Gid, that both the French and Eoglifh
Walkers are very prelLng with the Porte, on tome
important points. There is nothing known with
certainty of the propoistions made by Gen. Battey ;
but report rem that the Englilh Ambafrador afks co
lets than that the Poste fhould receive in Eypt a
certain number of Englifh troops, by which that
country (hould be again evacuated at a period to be
rasa on, in fulfilment of which England would give
the regaling fecu:ity. It is added, that the Porte
has not contented to this prcpof.d. nor is it likely
that it will. fince it would probably involve it with
Frame, and be an evhisnt infringement of that line
line of neutrality which Ibis Government has adopted.
A Radian frigat:, with cameral ttanfports, baring
troops on board for Corfu, is failed from one of the
ports of the Bl.aek Sea. Ali Bala. Governor of
Alexandria, dreading the coofiquenees of his conduit
towards the Foreign Confab in that.city, has effeiled
a reconciliation with them : In that now, it:had of
being decapitated. he noes to Cairo, where. accort
ding to previous nifitotitions, lie will take upon him.
felfrt/se general Government of Egypt.

,
Bankruptcies to a confiderable ammint hare takes
place atConaantinnple among the dealers in clothes.
It is feared that the European merchants will be dew
fiderahle :piers by this circumilanc

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS. WIDNEDAY, APRIL i I.

Mr. ROMILLY was beard for the Appellants in the Appeal
free the Court st Seam In Scotland—John Hunter, Bfq. of Sea-
Ode, and the Tackled= °Obis Salmon !MIT' on the River Tay,
✓ilna tbs fail of ittanow, sad others. Proprietors. of Sairom
Flattop is the River Tar—Poftpoped tln Monday.
Os the sand= tithe LORD CHANCELLOR, the Jadgrnent
of the Court ordeal= is the Appeal, Elpdinftone Plestlag spiel!
Abercren.sby, was =Versed.
Previout to the third reading of the Volunteer Bill,
Lord GRENVILLE again called the attention of
the Houfe to the claufe fanflioning the esifience and
continuance of Committees, by whom regulations
for the internal condua of the different Corps were
to be made. He deprecated in lirong terms the idea
of encouraging a deliberative body of armed men.—
He differed from Noble Lord. on the other fide
on this head, in three feveral rerpeCts. In the &II
place, in a retrofpeftive poiat of view, he thought it
would tend materially to remove this grievance,
which previous to the Chriflrnas reeds was fo gene-
rally antlered to require a remedy, that all regulations
originating in Corps or Committees Ihould, within a
certain period after the palling of the Ad, be trent--
mitred for the fantlion of his Majefly, and, according
to his approbation or rejection, fhould afterwards be
obferved or fall to the ground. Secondly. prorpec-
tively, he thought that all Inch regulations fhould in
future originate with the Commanding Officer, by
whom or by the Lord Lieutenant they ought to be
tranfruitted to his Majefly for his fanftion. And
thirdly, he objected to the claufe as holding out an
implied approbation of this fpecies of an armed deli-
berative force. He therefore moved, that the claufe
be omitted, after which he thould propofe another
in its (lead, which he hoped would effect the olajefts
he had hinted at.
Lord AUCKLAND felt himfelf under the need-
fitiof ditrenting from the motion. He thought that
Noble Lords fhould panic a little before they rejefted
the clank of which they were in poicellion, and with-
out hieing fully acquainted with the nature of *at
the Noble Baron may propofe to fulitlitute in its place.
He did not much relilh the idea of being thus fent to
open fee without chart or compaf., and he therefore
wilhed that the Noble Baron had fallen upon tonic
mode of informing the Houfe to what precife point
their coerce was to be directed. He raw much inif-
chief and confufion likely to refult from the retro-
fpeftive operation of the claufe, nor could he agree
with the Noble Baron, that the exuding Committees
were pregnant with the conliitutional inconveniencies
lie had fo firongly &refilled ; and above all, he de-
precated the pollibility of fitting the Volunteer. loore
from the regulations they were sifting tinder, even
improper as in lonic infants they pollibly might be.
He could not cottor in the exaggerated pillure the
Noble Baron had drawn of the dangers to be appre-
hended from a deliberative capacity, refining under
certain reftraints and qualifications in a body of men
fo patriotically and loyally conflituted as the Volum-
tecrs. There was no wound, there was no lost:, tl..tt
' required the extraordinary application recommended
by the Noble Baron,who teemed to think that they;
ezißed in this part f the Volunteer Syftern,

lerenntlieata,le evlnua
recukoduan, ne pars sw.xfa Lagar,
C'a!ta

fl 'would net &MCA* to that opinion, and king'
there was no necetlity for carrying the principle to
the utnsoft extent that it was meant to- flretch lt, be
would oppofe the Motion of the Noble. Baron.
Lord GRENVILLE explained, that he amid not,
confiftent with ordel, fubmit his ideas on the fubjed
in the form of a motion to the Honk, until the claufe
propole.l by the Noble Baron had been previoutly
expunged, nor could he regularly communicate it to
Noble Lords unlefs he had read it as part of his
fpeecb. However, with the permiCfion of the Houfe,
he would (late the fubilance of what be meant to
propole, in cafe his motion for expunging the clank
Ihould be carried. It was, firft, That the rules and
regulations of all Volunteer Corps,aftually embodied.
fhould, within one month from the palling of the Bill,
be tranfmitted through the Commanding Officer and
the Lord Lieutenant of the County, to the Secretary
of State, for his Majelly's approbation : fecondly,
That for the future no regulation by a Volunteer
Corps Ihould be valid without loch allowance on the
part of the King: and, laftly, That all filch regula-
tions &mild originate with the Commandino Officer,
and none other.—He was particularly anxious with
regard to the efiablifhment of his lag propofition,
becaufe he thought he could perceive a difpotition in
the Noble Baron to compromife the pra6ice, and to
admit that although k would be proper that the ori-
ginating power Ihould refide in the Commanding
Officer, yet that cafes may arife where it would be
prudent in him to confult and refer to the colleaive
opinion of the Corps.
Lord HAWKESBURY agreed in many of the
opinions of the Noble Baron. Hewifbed that thole
regulations bad never citified ; bat as Parliament, for
tome years pall, had acquiefced in them, be could
not fee upon what principles of confifiency or public
faith it could now be endeavoured to put an end to
them. The mifcbiefs which the Noble Lord appre-
hended from thole regulations were not, he would
contend, fn probable as were fuppofed, and for this
ftrong rearm', that whenever they Ihould be placed
on permanent duty, or called out in cafe of appear-
ance of location, there would be an end to all their
rules and regulations, and they would, in either of
thole two inllances, be fubjed to the operation of the
mutiny laws, like the reit of his Majetly's forces.—
As the olaufe of his Noble Friend fulficiently provid-
ed againft future dangers, and as from the tried
prudence and loyalty of the Volunteers, he was jufti-
tied in prefuming that by fee the greaten part of them
would be ready to recall their regulations, or to adopt
fuels alterations as his Majelly fhould recommend, he
would perfill in fuppoi ting the original claufe.
The Duke of MONTROSE lamented that either'

the preceding or the prefent government (Maid
have, either direftly, or by connivance, Conditioned
the practice of allowing men with their arms in
hands to affume a deliberative capacity. He thought
it the duty of parliament to cru(h, by their formal
land open declaration, the pofiibility of it for the fu.
ture. As the claufe intended to be propofed by the
Noble Baron would moil fully cad that, it fhould
'have his fupport, and ha would therefore, although
the did not wholly difapprove of the prefent claufe,-
Ivote for the motion for expunging it.
Lord HOBART did not mean, after what bad
been urged in reply to the Noble Baron who made
the original motion, to enter at large upon the fob-
jea, but he role for the purpofe of repelling Tome
obfervatiuns thrown out by the Noble Baron, tend.
hug, in his judgment, to produce all the mifchiefs
they purpofed to advert. He raided to that part
of his argument, wherein he called upon Parliament
to do their duty, regardlefs of any conlequenees that
may follow ; and not to have it imagined that
they were to be intimidated, by the numbers or ex-
tent of the Volunteer force, from crating their
Committees, and abolifhing the practice of delibera-
ting. He could not fit fluent, and hear it aflerted,
that a Britith Legiflatnre could be ever deterred from
the performance of its duty, or the maintenance of
its authority, by any body or bodies of men. He
thought too well of the principles of loyalty and pa-
triotilin by which the Volunteers were aftuated, to
fuppole that they would ever be guilty of the crime
of rafhly Petting rhemfelves up againfl Parliament ;
but if they fhould, he trulled that Parliament would
always be found competent to the talk of putting
them down. When the Volunteers of Ireland, dur-
ing the period that a Noble Earl near him (Lord
Weftmoreland) was Lord Lieutenant there, were
engaged in foam proceedings contrary to the calling
laws, the Parliament of that country exerted the
powers with which the Conaitution had invefted it,
and the Volunteers were fuppreffed. Should the
fame circumllonces require it. as long as the fame
caufe produced the fame effed, a fimilar relish
would attend a fimilar attempt by any defcription of
force in this part of the Empire. The original
claufe would, by its operation, accomplifh, by
gentler, and as effalual means, all that the Noble
Baron promifed to himielf from the adoption of his
fubflitute for it, and therefore it fhould have his
fnport.
quellion was then put on the Motion for ex•
punning G,e Claufe
Noe-corlintr, 25—Content4, rs.
A new Claule was propolcd by Lord Grenville,
and adopted.
Some other amendments were made, and the Bill
was pallid, and ordered to be Pent back to the Com-
mons as amended.

Lord HOBART moved, that as the printed co.
pies mere on the taLle, the lrith Militia Augmenta•
Lion Bill flsGuld be read a fecond time to-morrow, and
that the Lords fbould be fummone.d.

Adjourned to three o'clock tomorrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
hIr.SPEAKER having taken the Ch.or.
Mr. ,lIA W, returned Starker for the City of rublin, in the
roomed J. C. Berreford, Efq. took the idual oath. and ho fr.t.
Lord MARSHAM reported from the Committee on the Mid.
e..teles Ekelion, that Bct.jantin Lee, a pastor) duly ftanmoued to
give evidence before that Comanittee,bad difoheyed the fummone:
and moved, that be be corr.ruftted to the cultudy of the Ser;eat.t
at Arme..-o:d.-red.

'Ube Hour:, purfuaot to the Order of the Dar, rtfulvtd
into • Cotroottrec to eouGtler of the kith Rlycnue Regulation A.A.
R. lolectl, on the volition of Mr. Corry. that the Laid MI be tur•
tlor ,untinued and amended.—. Ordered to be reported to m wow.
. _ . . . . _

Cuh.nel Goo tm poleoted (owe Accounts Item the burst!
Dri..rtroent —Ordered to he ou the 'Eclat..

fOr. roll.! for a return of the particular. of the
(lag. a t. r tncidet.t., aUuwances, pcuttont, and gramme.. Lp. n
the o,,,..rtmcrt ut the barrack Board in Irdand, hone January

iron-4)r 4cr cd.

APNY 01
?Ir. Svretaty YORKE. moved the Ord: r of :he

D-ay for the faced reading of the Army of Referve
Sufpenfion Bill.
Mr.' LONG rote, not, he laid, to oppofe the Or.
der of the Day for the fecond reading, but to repeat
to the Houle the with already expreffed by a Right
Hon. Friend of his (Mr. Pitt) to be prefent in that
Rage of it, as he intended toe fpeak his fentiments
thereon. The Houfe would recollat that with and
intention of his Right Hon. Friend, more particularly
from the circumaance of his having, tome week,
ago, declared his purpofe of bringin forward Come
general meafure on the ruble& of national defence ;
and that he ouly refrained from that purpofe until
he lhould learn diainftly the nature of the meafures
then in the contemplation of his Majelly's Mininers.
His Right Hon. Friend was prevented from attend.
ing in his place this day, by a flight indifpofition.—
He trolled, however, that the Houk would not pro-
ceed with the next Rage of the Bill without giving
his Right Hon. Friend the opportunity he thould
with. If, therefore, the Right Hon. Gentlema4
would fay what day they fhould deem molt cony
nient to them for the difeutfion, his Right Hon.
Friend would on that day attend in his place, declare
his fentiments at Come Isngth, and take the fenfe of
the Houle upon the Bill. To morrow, he thought
would be too early a day ; Friday was already ap-
pointed for another important diteuttion ; and he
prefumed Monday or Tuefday might be convenient.
Mr. YORKE Paid, certainly it was Ms with to
accommodate the Right Honourable Gentleman ;
and, as he underllood there was no oblation to put-
ting off till Monday the other difcuffion, the Bill
might pronged to the next Rage on Friday.
Mr. ADAIR, on the part and in the abfenee of
his Honourable Friend, Mr. Fox, declared there
would be no oblation to pollpone his queftion till
1 Monday.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEVER
fait*, it was his intention to pollpone the cotter he
had given for Wednefday nest, as he underflood that
Come intimation was vitiated from Ireland relative
to the loan for that country, the particulars of which
it would be neeeffary for him, to know, before he
could proceed upon the bufinefs he had in content.
plasion. The expelled, iatiasatinn, be hoped, would
arrive by Tuefday. • it would be neceffary to bare
two or three days to eanfider the fubjea, before the
amount of the loan wanted could be correely fpc-
cified ; the bufinefs, therefore, could not be brought
forward till the Monday following. The Army Er.
timates, porpofed for next Monday, he would poll-
pone till Wednefday, which would give an opportu,
nity of deferring till Monday the bufinefs intended
for Friday, and leave that day open for the difenifion
now propofed,
Sir ROBERT zuxTon role, not togo into any
argument on the merits of the Eril now, though he
declared hinffelf decidedly an enemy to it ; but he
witted to ark asiltation with regard- to one of its
principles, namely, the mode by 'which' the coney
was to be altered, for defraying the diurnal eclat*
claimable under this Bill. If the affeffments wan
to be on counties at large, he had no oblation to
that part of the principle, but if Oa PaAeg MOrelis
he had arcing oblations.
Mr. Secretary YORKE raid, if the Honourable
Baronet had looked into the Bill, he would have
found the affeffment was intended on parallel, in the
nature of poor's rates.
The Bill was committed for Fiiday.

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