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do." The safest way was not to meddle with property
at all.' It was impossible to limit the alterations to one
class, with entire security to the remainder. There
might be periods when the exigencies of State required
the sacrifice of property ; but we were not in that neces-
sity, nor would he undertake to contemplate it, how-
ever remotely. He thought as ill of the Commission
which had been proposed to inquire into the state, man-
ners, and deportment of the Irish clergy. There was a
precedent for it, but an ominous one. It was that of a
similar Commission issued under Henry VIII.; and
they all knew how its labours terminated. Hiving taken
in review the labours of Parliament with respect to
Grand Jury presentments, the Magistracy, and the
Sheriffs, he observed that the few remaining topics
would be dealt with in the Committee according to the
amendment moved by his Right Hon. Friend, which
amendment was brought forward in consequence of a
pledge given last year. Its coincidence with the mo-
tion of the Noble Lord was purely accidental, and by
no means indicated shyness as to any proper inquiry
into the affairs of Ireland.

Mr.TIERNEY said, he would not have trespassed
on the time of the house at that late hour, except for
the observation and allusions of the Right Honouralole
the Foreign Secretary, with regard to the Catholic question. On
the particular occasion to which he had adverted, as to the motion
of last year, be perfectly well remembered the reasons that had in-
duced his Honourable Friends to act as they had done. The ques-
tion might have been carried through that House, and have gone
up, or rather have gone down, to are other House—(Laughter)—
but the fate which it would there meet was very well known to
all parties. He and his friends thought it a mach cry that the
question should be brought on at all under such circumstances. The
ltight Honourable Secretary bad now, it seemed, found nut that
there was nothing wanting to the success of this question. but the
hostility of his Majesty's Government. The Honourable Gentle-
man had stated that he was convinced that it would be useless to
bring the measure forward now. But be only asked the Right
Honourable Secretary to try. Ile only wished him to act on those
principles which he had formerly professed, if he had not ff.rgotten
them: if be would do so, all that he could say was, that he shoul.l
have the support of his Honourable Friends. The Right
Secretary surely did not flatter himself that he held his present
situation from an universal predilection in his favour on the part ref
the Cabinet, as he was sure, speaking for one of them, it was his
opinion that there was very little to choose between him and the
Pope—(Laughter). But be (Mr. Tierney) did not doubt, from the
anxiety shewn try the Right Hon. Gentleman to take office, but that
he would have taken it in any company. He seemed to thine that
his(Mr.Tierney's) friends had a great anxiety to join him; and he dis-
claimed any intention of linking himself with them ; but he could as-
sure him that that support has: been very essential to him on one or
two very important occasions. With regard to what the Honourable
Gentleman had said relative to Parliamentary Reform, though he
(Mr. Tierney) was friendly to that measure, yet he denied that any
pledge had ever been given of the nature of which the Hon. Gentle-
man had mentioned; besides, in Parliamentary Reform there were
1000 shades; Catholic Emancipation had but one meaning. Ile was
afraid that the Hon. Gentleman, to judge from his speech of this eight,
' was playing what was vulgetly called fast and loose ; he had better
rely on the honest suppott of the country, and continue in those prin.
ciples for which he had received and so deservedly received much
i commendation, without regard to the mean and narrow notions of
some who were a part of the Cabinet. Some short time ago, a
plain man, frleadiy to the Church Establishment, and who thought
he was following on that point a very good leader, viz. the Arch-
bishop of Canterbury, and the Prime Minister, found that he was
completely mistaken' by the stewing of a Cabinet Minister in
the other House of Parliament. On another occasion, when a
Noble Friend near him had introduced two Bills for the pur-
pose of extending to Roman Catholic Peers of England the
same privileges as were enjoyed by the Catholic Peers of Ireland,
those Bills passed this House unanimously; but in the other
House, although they were supported by the Archbishop of Canter-
bury, the Archbishop of York, and seven other Bishops, with the
Prime Minister to boot, yet the same Minister, before alluded to,
sounste.l the tocsin of an invasion of the fundamental principles of
the Established Church—(Laughter)--and they were consequently
thrown out. It was therefore necessary to disunite the present
Members of the Cabinet before any liberal measure could be pro-
ceeded in.—(The lion. Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheeriag).
Mr. CANNING explained. He had not insisted on the fact
that the Opposition were pledged to Pat liamentary Reform. But,
whether or no, it was impossible fur him to find a united Govern-
ment had he joined them, because they must have been divided,
either among themselves, or with respect ro him, upon the question
of Reform in Parliament.

Sir F. BLAKE complained that the I.V.inistry was composed of
individu-ds of discord.int opinions. If he were asked what he would
do with the present Administration? he would say, it Do away
with them."—(Laughter).—'Tice liberal part of the Cabinet were
clogged in their movements by the drag-chain of their unwilling
companions—(Hear, and laughter). The Ultras in the Cabinet, he
feared, would never Wcorne Liberal. The motion should have his
cordial support.
Lord A LTIIOIiP said a few words in reply.

The House thco t:Ridcd : the numbers
were—
For the Amendment, 184 I Againq it, 136 I Majority, 48.

The original :slotion was therefore lost.
The oth.r Orders of the Day being disposed of, the House
asljrturned s.t a Quarter before Three o'Clock.

Tii E I VENI NG STAR.

LO N DON.

WEDNESDAY, MAY 12, 1824.
THE FUNDS.

STOCK EXCHANGE, TWELVE O'CLOCK.
Consols opened this morning at 965, ji for the Account, and
for Money 96j to with little doing.
Yesterday being the first day for the new Account, a great deal
of Stock WM purchased for the nest Account at 9614