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eth Percentage, and his Contlitutional Councillors. I
e late Minifters asled rightly in withdrawing the I
Bill, which had been fo often alluded to. In aban-1
'cloning the meafure, they paid all the deference to
the willies and fcruples of that Augull Perfonage that
was required: In doing that they did quite as much
as was necelTary. Had they fubfcribed to the tiro-
lution which was propofed to them ; had they bound
themfelves by an obligation In contrary to the receiv.
ed principles of the Conftitution ; had they given a
pledge of Co novel, fo extraordinary ani fo unconfti-
tutional a nature, they would have been 101 l be-
yond all hope of redemption—they would have relin-
quifhed all fente of honour and of theme, and have
given a fatal blow to the liberties of their country.—
What would become of that great principle in our
Conftimtion, the refprinfibility cf Minifters, if loch a
pledge had been given ? It was this principle which
conftituted one of the charaeletiltic differences be-
tween the free Britifit Conflitation and the abfolute
governments of other countries. If Miniliers could
not have free will and liberty of counfel, by what
principle of jnflice, he would with to know, could
they he confidered as retponfible ? He was alarmed,
terrified he might fay, at the language of the day.—
Such was not that which prevailed at the time rif our
great deliverer, when the great Councils of the Na.
Lion recommended tohim to difmifs his Dutch guards
—and when a refuf.il on his part might have re pro.
duced there fcenes which had once delpged the couro
try with blood. The refponfibility of Minifters was
one of the heft fafeluards of the Conftitution—
and, that once deftroyed, though the mace might
lie on the table, Rill the deuce of the Conflitution
could not be Paid to be prelerved. If the great land
marks were once gone, we should in vain look for the
Conflitution. It was impoffible to recollat the con-
do& of the auguft Perfonage alluded to, without fen.
timents of gratitude and veneration ; but on a quef-
tion In vitally important as the pretest, be would not
compliment away the Confiitution ; he would not
farrender that glorious inheritance which had been
left to its by our anceftors, who, in former times,
filled there benches with fo much honour to them-
felves and advantage to trier country. He felt him
Pelf obliged to the Honnurable Gentleman who had
brought forward this motion, for having afforded
him an opportunity of recording his fentiments.—
During the thort time he had the honour of a feat in
the Houle, he gave his feeble fupport to the late Mi-
nifters, becaufe he conceived they underflood and
purfued the interefts of the country. He could not,
without fentiments of gratitude, relied upon what
they had done, to lighten the burthens upon the shoul-
ders of the people. The Abolition of the Slave Trade
was another mealti.. which commanded his appro-
bation. Their intentions to bring the population
of Ireland and Scotland into the fervice ; their mea-
lures of retrenchment and economy, the advantages
of whichwere hourly felt in every department of the
State; their difpofition to heal the wounds of Ireland,
and to conciliate the affettions of that important part
of the Empire ; all there were iosefiftible motives with
him for giving them his fupport. The extraordinary
change which was the fubje& of loch general regret,
would however not be unattended with Come advan-
tages. The country would learn from it, who they
were among its reprefentatives who would never aban-
don their own charaelerr, or the people's rights.—
Though the late Adminifiration had loft their power,
fill they might fay with the gallant Frenchman,
(Francis I.) " We have loft every thing but our Lo.
nour." This was a confolntion, which ought to fup-
port them, and would. For himfelf he had nothing to
fear, and nothing to hope from any Adminiftration.
It was a matter of perfeB indifference to him, by what
fee of men the affairs of the Countrq were admini-
ftered, fo they were well adminifered. There wasp
he would admit, great Ihrewdnefs, great dexterity,
and confiderable talent, among the prefent admini.
oration. But as to thole great and commanding
qualities which fhould ckara,flerize the Government
• of a Country, maintaining the preeminent fituation
that this did, they were removed fr...m their prede-
ceffors to an incalculable dillance. Thinking this,
be could not give them his fupport.
.Mr. OSBORN would detain the Houle but for a
very fhort time. He would leave to others, who were
better qualified to dircuis it, the propriety of the
meafure, to the rash introdation of which the late
Minifters owed their difmiffal. For himfelf, he was
determined to give every Alliance in his power to
the maintenance of that Conftittrion in Church and
State, in the principles of which he had been educe-
ted, and upon the religious obfervance of which he
conceived the bell fecurity of that Conftitution to re-
fide. Seeing no neceffity whatever for the recrgni-
ti.,n of ao abaraft principle of the nature propofed,
he would endeavour to get rid of it, by moving,—
" That the other orders of the day be now read."
The originaquellion and amendment having been
read by the Speaker,
Mr. BASTARD obferved, that the misconception
with regard to the nature and extent of the original
meafure, Arofe, as he underftoodefrom the impetfea
explanation of Miniflers. He walled to know the
precife grounds upon which the difference between
them and an Auguß Perfonage arofe. He never ap-
proved of the difcuffion of abarati propolitions, and
fooner than entertain that propofed by the Hon. Gen-
tleman who opened the debate, be would vote that
the ether orders of the day be now read.
Mr.MAURICE FITZGERALD felt it to be his
duty to avpid any difcuffion of the Catholic Qtienion,
which, in his opinion, was introduced for no other
inirpofe than that of giving .a certain bias to the moft
important conftitutional point that ever came Wore
the Houfe. There was not a sentiment in the refolu-
tirn propolid, which' interfered, in the leaft degree,
with the prerogative. Minifters, as Coon as they
found that infutmountable objef.tions were entertain-
ed In a certain quarter to a meafure which they
-thought neceffaty, contented to withdraw it. Could
they have given a tironger intlance of being advocates
for prerogative ? I'he late &Unifiers polleffed the
Confidence of the public, as well as great talents, and
their removal• vita be a filbjea of general re.
Bret. He dreaded the effelt which die recent
change might prodoce upon the feelings of the
people of Ireland. They could not loon forget
the great benefits and fecuriry which they de-
rived from the mild and beneficent Government
under which they enjoyed a degree of tranqoillity
which could fc,srcely have been expeeed. He eon..
hired, that his motives fur tuppotting the late :Ital.

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nets were fornewhat of a perfonal nature. When he,
law tha' a Gentleman (Mr. Grattan), whole opinion
might be confidered as the public fentiment of Ireland,
gave them his fupport, he had little hefitation in
following that pet fon, who, above any one he ever '
.knew, had the fentiments of that country with him.
He regretted, that with refped to Ireland, he would'
Rate it without offence, fuch lamentable and grofs
ignorance Ihould prevail. As far as regarded that
part of the empire, it could not be denied, that a
deplorable degree of apathy prevailed. The queftion
was no other• than this : WIII or will you not avail
yourfelf of the fupport of between four and five
millions of people ? Thefe truths might be unpleafant,
but he hit it his duty to exprefs them.
Sir THOMAS TURTON tlated, that the original
propofal of Minifters went no farther than to make
the At of 1793 valid in England. When they de-
parted from this intention, it was their duty to explain
it to his Majefty but did they do fir ? Did the Noble
Lord explain thole fweeping alterations, the tendency•
of which was to repeal the 'left Laws as far as they
regarded the Army and Navy? As to his Minifters
claiming any metit for having abandoned the =a-
fore, he thought they would be more entitled to the
praife of confittency and the fupport of the Houfe had
they perfevered in it. As it was, it looked as if they
meant to claim for themfelves all the merit of having
introduced the meafure, and of calling upon their
Sovereign the obloquy of its rejedion. What, in fad,
was the nature of the pledge, as it was called, required
from them? They ftipulated with their Soveteign that
they (hall be allowed to exprefs their fentiments fully
and freelyupon a particular meafurewhen it (hall come
under confederation. To this he affents, but requires
at the fame time that he (hall be no more importuned
on a fubjed which is difagreeable to him. He Pays,
in fad, .6 You may do this, but when you have done
In, let me hear no more about it." An allufion had
been made to the condo& of King William on a par-
ticular occafion. If.the Hon. Gentleman who made
it had carried his refearches a little farther, he would
have found that that great Prince had beenlo teazed
by his Minifters, that he adually meditated the abdi
cation of the throne. Gentlemen who made appeals
to the Houle and the Country, would alto do well to
fay fornething in favour of the prerogative. Several
allulions had been made, in the courfe of the debate,
to the fyftem purfued by the late Minifiers with
tefped to Ireland. Did it follow that thefe falutary
meafures were to be abandoned ? If they were con-
ciliating, if they tended to fecure the peace and tran-
quillity of that country, that wculd be of itfelf a fuf-
ficient inducement to the prefent Adminiftration to
walk in .the fame path. Some political prophecies
had been uttered in the courfe of the evening. To
fuch predidions he paid but little attention. He
generally found that thofe who pronounced them
meant to ad upon them, and that having contributed
to bring about the very evil which they affeCted to
deprecate, they then came forward and claimed merit
for their political furefight. The real queftion before
the Houle was, whether the Sovereign was or was
not to be fupported is the fair exercife of his latera-
-1 gative againft an ariftocracy which had the prefump-
lion to endeavour to diftate to him? No one would
be happier than himfelf to fee all religious and politi-
cal animofitiea fubfide, but he would not, by rafts and
inconfiderate fpeculations, hazard the edifice of the
Conftitution. He would with to amalgamate and
identify with each other the different nations of whicb
I the Empire was compofed, but he would not compro-
, mile the fafety of the molt important part of it.
Mr. CU RWEN Paid, haves a fubjed of regret that
this queftion fhould have been confidered in a reli-
gious view. He thought his Majefty was ill-advifed ;
firft, in requiring the pledge which he demanded from
his late Minifters, and next, in difiniffing them, in
confequence of their refufal. The queftion was not,
as it was Rated, an abftrad queftion. It was the re-
cognition of a gt eat political principle, and lhould
therefore have hi. fupport.
Colonel TUFNELL obferved, that the late extra-
ordinary change could only be attributed to the un-
conflitutional nature of the advice given to his Ma-
jefty. This change was deeply to be lamented, for
`neither at home nor abroad could any confidence be
placed in the permanence of the prefent Adminiftra-
lion. So far from it, the very enemy would derive
! the greateft hopes from the caufes of the change.
Looking to the unhappy confevences which were
likely to follow, he lamented that the meafure, even
neceffary as it might be, had been ever brought for.
ward. As to the pledge which was required, Mini-
fters would not only have difgraced themfelves, but
violated the Conftitution, had they fubmitted to it.
Had filch a pledge been demanded and obtained a
century ago, the Houle would not now have. to de-
bate upon the Conftitution.
Mr. FULLER Paid, that the real quellirm was be.
tween one let of Minifters and another ; whether the
prefent Adminittration fhould be driven out, and the
King forced to violate his confcience and refign his
prerogative? If the King had ventured fifty years
ago to violate his coronation oath, and to diffolve
Magna Charta, the Minifters irho whiled him to r,...5.
meafures would have been impeached; but the recent
affairs in Ireland and elfewhere gave, it teems, a kind
of fandion to fuch councils. He law no Life in giving
way to fuch propofals. Thirty years ago he tecol-
leded Lord North, in confequence of Come motions
made in that Houk, fent 70,000 Rand of arms to
1 Ireland, which as loon as the people obtained, they
bid defiance to this country, and thefe very mufkets
were fusee employed is all the rebellions which arofe
in that country. He thought it bell to oppofe tilde
demands in the outlet. If a man were m the prac-
tice of !boring him from the wall, the way of pre-
venting a repetition of the ;atilt, was not by obfery
ing to him, 4, Pray do not do fo again," but to Rand
up to him, and (hew a good countenance. He had 1,
refleded a good deal upon the political life of the
family which was at the head of the late AdmMiftra-
'ion, and it appeared to him, that they were always
too much attached to theories. One of them, by his
meafures, loft America, and he feared, that another,
r by the Bill for the Abolition of the Slave Trade,
would lofe the Weft Indies. The motion before the
Houle involved an unneteffary abftrad propofition,
,which they were not called upon to difcufs, and he
would, therefore, vote for the other Orders of the
Day.
Mr. PLUNKETT declared that he was not one
of thole men, whom an Hon. Baronet (Sir T. Tur-
ton) had fn.ppofed were anxious to load the perfons
of iris Majefty's new Minifters with obloquy and se-

preach. He was lure that his Majefty, who was the
kind father of his people, had acted only on the repre•
fentations of others, that .64 the Church was in dan-
ger." Thole who had, however, been the foremoll
to let up this cry, and to found this alarm, had
thrown upon themfelves a great weight of refponfi-
bility. It was incumbent upon them to prove the
eziftence of that danger. He had yet to learn, and
the Houle had yet to learn, how, and from what
,quarter danger was to be apprehended to the Etta-
blifhed Church. No man felt more ftrongly than he
did the advantages to both countries, from the con•
nexion with Ireland ; no man withed more that that
connection should be firmly cemented, and no man
was more firmly attached to the Proteftant Ella.
blithment of Ireland, which he conceived to be no
lets important than the connection itfelf. If, then,
he could fee any ground for fuppoling the Proteftant
ellablifbment was in danger, he would be as readras
any man to raife his voice in its fupport, and to ring
the alarm to the country. He was at a lofs, however,
now to difcover from what quarter this danger was
threatened, and it did appear to him that men who,
upon fuch flight grounds, or rather upon no grounds
at all, could come forward, and wantonly difturb
the peace of that country, did not thew themfelves to
be men periled of loch difcretion as fhould be ex-
_peeled from there to whom the adminiftration of the
laffairs of the empire were to be committed at a trills
like the prefent (loud cries of hear, hear!) After the
meafure had been abandoned, Rill the cry was art-
fully kept up that the church was in danger. He
lbould therefore beg leave to call the attention of the
Houle to the A& of 1793, and he would firft obferve
that that Irifh Alf did not apply merely to Irifh Ca-
tholics, but to all Catholics (crying in the army of
Ireland. Since the Union, however, there no longer
exifted any feparate army cf Ireland, nor any (epa-
rate eftablifhments, but before the Union Englifh
Catholics, if (crying in the army of Ireland, were
entitled to the benefit of the Aft of 1793. At pre-
fent, by the law of the land, the King is empowered
to grant commiffions in Ireland to Catholics, and it
would be certainly a orange thing to tell thofe Ca-i
tholics that, although they were vety fit to be trolled
in Ireland, yet they were not fit to be trufted in
any other part of the world. If the artful endea-
vours to keep up the cry of the Church being in dan.
ger was confined to placard: flock up againft the walls,
or to Proteftant Tongs and religious choruffes,perhaps
thofe endeavours would not merit any fevere repre•
henfion ; but he had been informed of other attempts
which he thought were deferving of more ferious at-
tention. The peace of the Univerfity of Dublin had
lately been diflurbed with attempts from a very high
quarter, to procure an Addrefs to his Majefty, Rating
that the Church and the Proteftant Religion were in
danger. Two letters had been written to the Uni•
verfity by its Chancellor (the Duke of Cumberland)
to procure fuch an Addrefs. The firft produced but'
,
very,little effea ; but in the fecoad the Royal Duke
to whom he alluded Rated (as he was informed) that
fuch a Rep would be the only means of recommending
I that Univerfity to the favour of his Majefly. [Loud
cries of hear, hear 1 He confidered that nothing could
be more unconaitutional than this mode of ufing his
Majefty's name to procure addreffes or petitions to
Parliament. He thought, however, that it would
be neceffary to confider the time at which fuch cur-
rims were made to get a petition from the Univerfity'
of Dublin. It was either after the Bill had been
abandoned that it was endeavoured to raife the fer-
ment and outcry, as it was in contemplation of its
ferving the new Minifters. If the attempt was made
before his Majetly had efpied the flighteft difapproba.
tion, it was evident how far the machinations of
fecret advifers operated ; if it was after the Bill was
abandoned, it was equally evident that it was then
the purpofe of effecting a change of Adminiat ation,
which was Rated to have been produced by other
caufes. He could not Rate at prefent the date of this
laft letter ; but he mull fay generally, that whether
it was before the Bill was abandoned or immediately
after, it equally (hewed what fort of engines had
been let to work to fpread the alarm that the Chords '
and the Proteftant Religion were in danger. When
he heard the name of Religion mentioned, he felt
that every thing which was moft dear to his heart
was touched ; but when the name of Religion was
fo dear tp him, it wasfrouri its intrinfic value, from
its dictating and concentrating all the amiable chari.
tics of life—from its breathing the fpirit of toleration
and mutual affection, and not as being the rallying
word of a perfecuting party. He knew there were.
many in that Houfe to whom true religion was dear,
and he therefore called upon thofe who polkaed
it in their heart:, and who did not ufe it as a
watchword for perfecution, to (hew it in their votes
in favour of a fyßem of toleration and benevolence
to all darks cf his Majetty's loyal fuhjeas. He (hi add
then call the attention of the Houfe to the pledge,
which *was required from the late Minitiera. This
pledge he coafidered in the higheß degree dange-
rous and unconflitutional, and tending directly to'
fubflitute fecret whilperers in the place of refponfible
women and Advifcrs of the Crown. He conceived'
it of the molt dangerous confequences to have it nip-
poled, that the Miniflers of this Country could hive
one duty to their Matter and Sovereign, which was
directly oppofite to their duty to their country. He
conceived that this particular pledge would c,:ntpto-
mile the fafety of Ireland. The Rate of the Catho-
lics of Ireland was this:—During the court': of his
Ntajetly's reign many coneeffions had been made to
them, and many of the advantages to which they
were entitled had been granted them. In confcquence
of this many of them had arrived to wealth, honour,
and ,diainftion. It would be Aced by many, ought
not this to content them, and ought they to prefs
for any thing more ? It was not, however, in human
nature to be fo contented. He fhould appeal to the
individual feelings of the Members of that Houfe,
who all of them enjoyed wealth, honour, and di(tinc-
Lions in fociety, if they were to be told. ' You ought
to he well fatisfied with thole advantages, and fhould
be content not to be admitted into the full participation
of the Conftitotion,' would they be fo contented ?
They would not—it was not in human nature that
they fhould. The Catholic Gentry-of Ireland were
now in that fituation of exclufion, and ansioufly
withedito be received into ti.e bofom of the Canal-
omearfidiedr etraeorrpeadd,etedwa,bhiaienchfidttwhaaetsyionwbyith:
cation —the CatholicPriefthood were at prefent unpaid
fttandre altoCt
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its inhgbitant:l alto felt Yes themf I
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the humiliation of their Nobilil, their Cent"
I
and their Prietthood. It was impotrible that they
flould not feel in that' mottle, and it aas im. ,
politic to difappoint their • natural and jug feelings
and expeaations. Such was the aaual fituation
of Ireland :—he would snot pretend to point out
the fpecific remedy, but this •he wyrrild fay,
that it was impo!bble fur Ireland to continue
much longer in the [late in which it is at prefent.—.
It might be thrown into a worfe Rate, it might be put
into a much better Rate ; but every one that was
I acquainted with its *dual fituation, and he would
appeal to the Right Hon. Gentleman who was lately
Secretary for that country (Mr. Eliot) who mud
know and agree that it was impoffible that it lhould
remain long as it is at prefent. We might as well
(hut our eyes, and then fay there was no danger, as
remain longer in indifference and apathy rerpeeling
the fituation of Ireland. The pledges that were de-
manded from the late Minders would have a molt
important effect upon the fituation of that country.
The Minillers were to be abfnlutely prevented from
even propofing any thing in favour of its population,
Every paltry Corporation, the Insert individual caw
in the empire, bad, by the Confliaation, a right to
prefent his petition to the King, or to the Legifiature
—but now, for the firft time, it is Rated, that roar
millirns of the people of Ireland (hall be debarred of
the right of petitioning, or what is equivalent, they
are told that no petitions they may preent !hall la
paid any attention tn. This was not only a novelty,
but a prodigy, an alarming appearance in the Cat.
fiitution, and which f4emed to portend the great
' danger (cries of bear, bear !) This general iiierdie.
tion appeared more like Come divine chanifement to
a p:oile, than like any meafure which human policy
could have adopted. What mutt he the effea of
thole tranfaaions whi..t.. hive recently taken place?
The Catholics of Ireland would be given to under-
ftand, that the Royal ears were hermetically leaded
againft them ; that the Minifters of the Crown were
bound by fome pledge, carrels or implied, never to
prnpofe any redrefs far them, but always to read
their claims. This corifideratian filled him with the
molt ferious apprehenfisms, and when he laid fo, he
mutt take notice of an expreftion that had fallen
from an Hon. Baronet (Sir T. Turton), ' that thole
who propliefied thole dangers intended to adt in loch
a manner as to bring their prophecies to their acmes-
plifhment.' Nothing could be more unparliamentary
or indecent than this obfervatinn. He fhould tut,
however, be prevented by it from exprefling fully
thofe apprehenfrons which he felt. He had in Ireland
fo many dear plidges, that no man could fufpeahim
of lightly wifhing to offer any obfervations which
could tend to difiurb its tranquillity or endanger its
fecurity : he knew, however, that there were many
fiends and demons waiting to feize on every opportu-
nity to effea a reparation of the two countries, and
he conceived that they would take every advantage
of the difcontents which the Catholics might feel—
he felt that we were walking per ignes fuppO'icts crnere
dolofo ; he did not mean to fay that the danger Ins
immediate, it might be fmnothed over for a year or
two, • but it would continue to keep Ireland the mei
vulnerable part of the Empire. If a meafure of tack
unneceffary outrage as this was perfevered in, he
thought it might (hake to the centre the conneaion
between the two countries, and the profperity, if not
the exiftence of the Empire.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
(Mr. Perceval) was very far from imputing to soy
Gentleman the intention of promoting difturbances
by any obfervations made in that Huufe, and be
agreed with the Right Hon. and Lezrned Gentleman
who fpoke lag, that nothing could be more unparlia
mentary or improper than Inch an infatuation. H
was alto certain that, in point of faa no mifchie
could be produced by the manner in which the Riglt
Hon. Gentleman had eapreffed his kntiments i be
he hoped that tie fame indul;ence would be allowd
to him, and to the Gentlemen who fh-.old entertait
an oppofite opinion to that expreffed by the Rigit
Honourable and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett).
He trufled that it would never be fuppofed that be
was a man capable of founding an alarm, and crying
out that the Church and the Protefiant Religion me
in danger, merely to ferve the purpofes of party,or
to obtain power. He trufted, that no pet Con alio
knew him would fuppnra, that he would cry out that
the Protehant Eftabliflunern was in danger, if he dill
not really believe it to be fo. He had, however, it
prehended confiderable danger, not to much from
the Bill itfclf, which was brought in, as from tk
principle of giving conceffions for the purpofe of ma
ciliating the Catholics. The Right Hon. and Leami
Gentleman had himfelf Rated the difficulty that them
would be in conciliating them in this manner. it
had laid, that it was not in human nature that thy
fhculd be fo eafily contented ; that the Cathie
gentry and prieffliood were dircontented, as wells
the mars of the population. If that were the elks
how far mull thole conceffians be carried ? It ap-
peared to him, that not only the principle of the Right
Hon. Gentleman, hut that of the Noble Lord alko
brought in the Bill, would go to bring Catholic Mat- •
hers iuto that Houle, and Catholic Bithops to reprats
their Prielthood in the Houle of Lords rod cry if
A'o, No!) It certainly did appear to him, that the
principle would have gone to that event, and thee
fore he had oppLfee it; and, under thole impreffictia
he did confider that the Proteflant Ellablifitmest
of Ireland was in ferious danger. If the Catholicsd
Ireland were not to be conciliated, without fatisfying
there anxious Gentry and expeaing Plieillmod, he
did not fee how the Proteitant Eftablifhtnent cold
Rand in that country. The argument, however, of
the Right Honourable Gentleman did not appiar to
apply' fo much to the refolution then before the
Hotife. as it would have applied to the Bail of the
Noble Lord (Howick) V. t;en k was bet.. re the
Houle. That argument he was however ready to
meet upon a proper occali :n ; but he Fhoold avoid
entering into it at prefent, as conceiving it not iftillly
applicable to the preterit gleaion. He could fiat
however avoid raying, that it was inconceirthle to
him upon what principles his Majetty's lAte Milliners
could reconcile it to their feelings aad their knfe
of duty, to abandon a Bill which they had at
fill Dated as inditpenfably neceffary for the testuil
of Ireland. He could not underhand either how It
was to be confidered as fo very urconflitotivas T
endeavour to procure a petition to that Hotife ORR
any meafure pending in it.
[Mr. Pavgasr begged pardon for interreP!.i.ng...
him, but fail that what he had !Lard as uraltiL

tional, was not t
but the ufe that I
procure it.]
The CHANCI
fumed his fpeech.
tleman had interr
have his ftate men
Be allowed that i
tile of his Majelly
pore of influencii
equld not fee th
flitutional, in ms
procuring an adc
the time of the He
in diCcuffing eithe
tion, or of the dill
prefent. If he
'would not only ti
part of the Sea;
thofe meafures,
cuffed. He could
tnere words of th
was-now fubmitte
and which it woi
muff be taken (a
conneded with a
it muff be confide
in the words
intended and imp
by no meant kind
oppofe it. fhe
. implied by it wa
lot his conduit i
in the circumfta
This was a pro
confenr, both as
King in a manne
becaufe he thou
than to decide t
ter.ials to go upot
parties. '''here
to he implied in t
sever admit, nan
millers had, upon
pledge, either exF
!Affairs from pro;
would be an eau
this queflion, to
which were fo R 1
confider it as a I
be true in general
apply to that mot
nor to the real ni
could not be fair
but a vote of cen
to pall refoluticr
any individual in
heard the cafe ft,
be unjuft in the
much more unju
our beloved Sove
brought before I
examined there?
As to thole fecre
to.affume, mere
debate, as far a
Majefty had no.
the dilates of h
He did not meat
former Miniften
fliniftration, he
to fay, that in ri
late Minifters, h
of his own mind
that the Houfe a
winced, that he
fecret advifers
brought forwar
difmiffal of Mi
then certainly h
Trim, about the
—ln the confide
with the pledge
ded into three c
prior To the intr
Its introdudion
and the third,
cAs to the firft
bred it to be t
to bring in fuel
'the intention n
was granted E
and merely up,
to be a meafu
Thofe who br
words, which
the Mt of 17
iiiictars was
:ipply to the
Lthe Bill, Nowt
(Howick) not
Loki, butwarri
tymithdrewhi
than the Aft e
that extent, hi
abce in this re
ing his being
conceffions, a
upon that fob
pole that his I
Sure, when pre
the Ad of 17i
polar of it in
sn Honourab
two days, on
the Irifh Men
formable Bar/
was quite not
have no obje

than what 1
ttifo no lefs tl
confidered it
when they fe
cry of no, no!
Erfkine, Elle
One of thole
evento have
that the mew
pr opofed.
curnfiance—
office is Cupp
confcience, I
where it wa

fcience of th
the fcro,plel
famed firm