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was fo derivable in every poitft of view, it had his
hearty poncarreaces • . • • •
The Marquis of HAADFORT fupported the Bill,
and exprelted his regret, that the great Minifler who
had brought about the meafore of the-Union, was
not at prefent at the head of his Majefty's Couticils.
Earl FITZWILLIAM nppded it, as interfering
with the principles upon which the Militia of Eng-
land was originally formed, mid as derogatory from
the honour of the nation. which poireffing 380,000
Volunteers, 70,000 Militia, and 44,000 Infantry,
with a doe proportion.of Artillery tad Cavalry, Rill
was reprefented to be under the necelEty of accepting
the Cervices of to,otio frith Militia.
ThesDUKE of NORFOLK would vote againft
the meafure upon contlitutional grounds. although
he acquitted the Knitters of any blame whatever in
the tradietion, which was in fume nacafure, he had
reafon to fuppufe, forced upon 'them, He could nor
concur in the wills of a Noble Marquis for the return
to power of a Member of another Hoofe,. much lefi
in his opinion of his merits as a minißer. He thought
that the conßitution had been more violated, the
country more °pm tired and impnverithed by taxes,
and the Rate of Europe reduced to more difgrace and
humiliation by his rneafures, than by the rathnefs
or incapacity of all the adminifrations that bad
*needed him.
The Earl of LIMERICK fiipported the Bill, and
retorted with much force the argument advanced by
a Noble Earl, that the priollice of volunteering tend-
ed to countenance that molt dangerous of all princi-
ple's-to a free Government, the principle of delibera-
tion by armed bodies. He was furs. when the Noble
Lord had made that obfervation, that the extraordi-
nary refolutions entered into by a number of Militia
Colonels at the Thatched Hours, in which the Noble
Carl bore fo confpiciious a part, did not offer them-
(elves to his recollation. He could fee no difference
between deliberltion by commanders and deliberation
by common foldiers. The Bill had his concurrence,
becau(e it would promote that which was the earneß
with of his heart, the full political identity of both
Lord CARLETON readily admitted, that loch
was the Rate of defence in which this part of the
United Kingdom was placed, that there did not euift
any abfolutt neat ty for the transfer of to,ooo Mili-
tia from Ireland. Yet, he was dieidedly of opinion,
'Oat when a voluntary offer of fervice was made, like
that which had occurred in the prefent inflame, it
fliould not be rejefted. It would, in fa& materially
tend to the confolidarion of the aft of Union, by
!sewing the mutual confidence with which different
parts of the fame empire were animated. With re-
fpea to the °bra-venom whiCh had fallen from a
Noble Lord, on the correfpondence that had palled
between two Noble Lords in Ireland) one of whom
filled a mof important office, he had merely to re-
inark,t)tat foal comments were not warranted by the
Incidental mention of theicorrefpondence, lance it Was

not fairly before their Lordlhips, and could not be
made the groondwork of a charge.
Lord BORINGDON explained..
The LORD CHANCELLOR delivered a warm
eulogium on the character of his abfent Friend ( Lord
Redefdale), whom he had keown for many years in
the Mod intimate habits of friendfhip, and who he
was confident, if he Lad erred, mull have erred from
a mittaken idea of the means of good, but in the moil
parte& cOnvittion of his heart that what he was then
devil* appeared to him molt likely to conduce
towards the public welfare. His Lordlhip obfervtd,
that, nice:V What had fallen from another Noble Lou.
in reference to his Noble Friend, he could hardly thick
St incumbent on him to apologife for this digreffion.
His LorcHhip then adverted to the general arguments
which bad beau nfed ageing the Bill, and contended
that the prefent was only a temporary mature, the
abuts of which it would be always in the power of
Parliament to marlin. If any Voltmeter Corp.* had
toted in the Left %fiance to (cite within a particular
(tibia. and if there were even an AR of Parliament
to continue Inch fervice. would it be reakinable for
the Legillatme to prevent them from afterwards ex-
tending their fervices to the molt diftant parts at the
Mend, If they thought fit fo to do ?
The Earl of CARNAR VON declared, that from
the futillance of the Noble Lord's own arguments, he
was induced the more lirongly to infer that a breach
of faith was lurking at the bottom of the tranfaelion.
From filch a train of argument, they might as well
be fent to Jamaica or Ceylon. &fide that, be re-
minded their Lordihips that the landed property of
Ireland paid a large cum of money for the railing of
this body for their total defence was it then juft, or
becoming the honour and dignity of Parliament. to
withdrew fuch a force from them at a time when a
florin 'was immediately impending over their heads?
Loed AUCKLAND expreffed his furprife, that
the oppofition to the Bill fhould chiefly originate
from thofe Noble Peers who had repeatedly *Naiad
to his Majefly's Mingle's, that they had not in rea-
ding(' for the defence and fafety of the tountty a
force of a difpotable nature fufficiemly large. The
oppofition was therefore the more extraordinary,
while they blamed Minifters for not having in.
creafed die difpofable force, they denied to them, In
the fame breath, die power of that kind of force. by
refuting their &Tent to a Bill, profelredly direeted to
the accomplithmcnt of an objet admitted on all hands
to be fo wife and falutary. No man could deny the
wifdom and policy of immediately augmenting the
difpotable force of the country, more particularly
when he looked at ,he wretched Rate of the Conti-
nent. Yet out of that wretched (late force hopes were
naturally excited. It was not in the nature of men
nr of things, that the war could IsR for any long
rime, and in that opini,in he was jullifisd by the an-
fwers given by the 11 cprefentatives of the different
Powers to the Oalcial Communication made to them
of the late lying correfpoodence' and the fain icated
plot. It was impoffible that a Government which
was founded in regicide, which was railed and exalt-
ed by blood and poifon, and which was fupported by
midnight m.rdeis and aftatErvetions, (boatel long
continue to be ri;ded by a baud Rained with the
blood of innocent and royal viltans. As to the be.
neSts likely to refill: from the Bill before their Lord.
ships, there could be hut one opinion. From their
lefidence here the Miiitia would acquire im-
provements arid irninilry, which could not
`,II to be prod -ttive real advAntAgcs, whet' they
•et,itned to their nv.r. cro;rtry ; and as to any (IMO-
. pion of Me M•iiiia in Ireene, by a transfer of ten
.1); mi.!. I:'. and, he thought that could form
tc the Bill, Ence it was well