Star.
London, England, 1815-05-23 00:00:00

AITICLI.

His Britannic Majestyengairs to furnish a subsidy of five
millions sterling tor the service of the year ending as the' fit of
April, 1316, to be divided in equal proportions amongst the three
Powers; namely—between his Majesty the King of Prussia, his
Majesty the Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary and Bohemia,
and hie Majesty the Emperor of all the Kendal.
" The subsidy above stipulated of five millions sterling shall
be paid in London by monthly instalments. and in equal ror-
lions, to the Ministers of the respective Powers, duly authorised
to receive the same. The first payment thereof to become due
on the let day of May next, and to be made immediately upon
the exchange of the ratifications of this present Additional Con-
vesnon. lia case Peace should take place, or be signed between
the Allied Powers and France before the expiration of the said
year, the subsidy, calculated upon the scale of five Wilkens ster-
ling, shall be paid up to the end of the month in which the
Dei-
nldve Treaty shall have been signed; and.his Britannic Majesty
promises, in addition, to pay to Russia four months, ae4to Aus-
tria and so Prussia two months, over and above the stipulated
subsidy, to elver the expenses of the return of their troupe Within
their own frontiers.

" The present additional Convention shall have the same torte
and etf•er as if it were inserted word fur word in the Trees,/ of
the 25th or March.
" It shall be ratified, and the Ratifications shall be exchanged
as soon as possible.
" lu faith pt which the respective Plenipotentiaries have signed
it, and have affixed thereunto fhe seals of their arms. •
Dims at Vienn3, this thirteenth day of April, in the year
of our Lull out thousand eight hundred and Aiwa.
(LS.) " CLANCAIITT.
(1..5.) 14 Prince de HAIDESIIIIIO.
(L.s.) " Le Reran de Henan:Arr"
[The Additional Convention. with Russia is exactly ulml to
the above.]

PARLIAMENIARr PA.2CEEDIIVdt

HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY U.

In c insemicnce of the absence of the Luau CMANCILLOI from
indlseosniuti, Lord ELLIINIOROUGU officiated as Speaker of the
House.
The Irish Jails Regulation Bill was brought up from the Corm.
mons by Mr. IiIIOODICN and read a first time, as were a great
number of Private or /Acid Bills, presented by Mr. 'MLA?,
Mr. Ms•rnuts, Lord Mtvror, and other Members.
Au Account was presented front the Admiralty of tbstiumber
of Ships of Wile and Atmed Vessels sent out to the Coast of
North America, between the months pf April and July, lel4,
which, on the motion of the Earl of DARNLEY, was guises.
glumly (interest to be printed.
Earl STANHOPE presented a Petition frocn.esetaln Electors
of the Borough of Heinen, which on his Lordship's motion, was
referred to the Rimer Committee on the subject.
the BEN quip the table were forwarded in their respective
le"g"'

WAR WITH THE PAMHIST GOVIRNIAINT Or FRANCE.,
lIKSSAOK WHOM THE REGENT.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL presented a Message
from the Prince Regent, which being read in the
usual way, was to the following effect :

GS Gsoaas P. R.

" His Royal Highness the Prince Regent, wing in the name
un3 on the behalf of his Majesty, thinks it right to inform the
House of Lords, that in consequence of the events which have
recently occurred i n France, in &met contravention of the trea-
ties concluded at Paris in the course of the last year, has judged
it necessary to 'enter into engagements with his Majesty's Allies,
tor the purpose of forming such I concert as the present dram-
stances indispermitily require, and fur preventing the revival of
that system and course of events which experience has proved
to be incompatib:e with the peace and independeno. of the na-
tions of Europa

" His Royal Highness has directed copies of the Treads
cae-
chided with his Majesty's Allies to be laid before the Hoose, and
he confidently relies on the support of the House of Lords in all
measures which it maybe necessary for him to adopt In conjunc-
tion with his Majesty's Allies against the common enemy at gsla
important crisis."

The Message being read, it was ordered on his
Lordship's motion to be taken into consideration to.
morrow, and the Lords to be summoned on the oc-
casion.

The Noble Earl then laid upon the table certain do-
cuments referred to in the Prince Regent's Message.
Earl GREY, after a few words respecting the
shortness of the interval allowed for discussion, .and
which he thought was not so strictly founded in pre-
cedent, as the Noble Earl seemed. to imagine ; in-
quired, as he thought it indispensably necessary to be
known, particularly with reference to the important'
discussion of to-morrow, in what state this country
WAS to be considered. Whether or not, in an actual
state 6f war; and whether the usual steps, at the
commencement of such a state, were taken
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, when the One
should regularly :strive, he 'Rusted be should be able
satisfactorily to explain, what the Noble Earl referred
•to. Witt respect to the particular question, no steps
bad yet been actually taken ; *no embargo was laid

'oft, youletters of marque hs ed. But be slioold be
wily deceiving their Lordships. W be called upon
Ahem to constder this Message in any other light,
it'll as a Message of War, and the Address to be
voted upon it, as one preceding acts of hostility,
which /my be adopted as soon as general expediency
may rerder them advisable.
Earl GREY then inquired if the Austrian Treaty
was amongst those documents just presented, or to
be speedily communicated
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, the Treaty ad.
vetted to was not amongst them—the ratification;
but all the other Treaties would be delivered ready
printed to-morrow.

IN ZOOM TIONS AT VMN A.
The Order of the Day upon which their Lordships
were summoned being read,
The Marquis of BUC KING HAM rose. He should
not in the first instance have to trouble their Lord-
ships at any length upon the present occasion. A
prominent article, in one of the 'treaties upon the
table, stated the solemn engagement of the High
Contracting Powers to unite their resources for the
purpose of maintaining the conditions of the Treaty
of Paris, and the stipulation: determined and signed
by the Congress at Vienna, It was therefore essen-
tial the House should know what those stipulations
were, which the country was thus h•rund to support ;
and consequently he thought it not too much for him
to call upon his Majesty's Ministers to state. With re-
spect to the Noble Earl's intention not to call for
any approbation from the House of what passed in
the Congress at Vienna, lie did not think it quite sa.
tisfactory upon the point, nor did he think that which
was introduced into, or referred to a ratified treaty,
unfit to be communicated to Parliament. Whether
the decision was to be for war or peace, any stipula-
tions which the country wassobound to support should
in justice be made known to the House. The Noble
Marquis concluded by moving an Address to the
Prince Regent, praying for the pruductionof aCopy of
the stipulations determined upon and signed at Vienna,
and referred to in an article of the Treaty concluded
with his Majesty's Allies, and laid before the House
by command of his Royal Highness. •
On the question,
Lord LIVERPOOL assured-the Noble Marquis,
'that it would be improper to grant the information
which the motion referred, and also that such infor-
mation was not at all necessary to enable the House
to come to a decision upon the Address which it was
proposed to bring forward to-morrow, for the discus-'
non of which he should reserve himself until the pro•
per opportunity offered. He did not mean to say
that it would be improper to communicate to Parlia-
went the information required by the Noble Marquis,
but the time was not yet come for making that corn
munication, as the stipulations alluded to formed no
part of any ratified treaty. When that ratification
should take place, those stipulations would of course
be made koown to their Lordships. The force of the
Noble Marquis's observations he (Lord Liverpool)
should be ready to admit, if it were intended by the
vote of to-morrow to caU upon their Lordships for
any pledge upon the meek of the transactions to whicit
the motion referred. Bet that vote would leave these
transactions still open for discussion, as it would not
involve any opinion whatever upon the proceedings of
the Congress at Viennat Therefore, whether those
proceedings were right or wrong the Noble Marquis's
motion could answer no object, with a vie* to the
discussion of to-morrow, because the question to be
discussed wood have no reference to those proceed-
ings.. What the nature of those proceedings then was
war 111101,M present material for the House to know.
That the arrangements ainstuded by Congress Ewe
just and expedient, he for one was fully prepared to
maintain ; but the defence of these arrangements
was not at all necessary with any regard to the mo.
don of to-morrows For that motion had a distinct
object-in view, and involved this question simply.
whether there Lordships would agree to suppert otrt
Allies against the a fade Government of France
Whet)eer any opposition to that Government, in con-1
junction with our Allies, was a fit and expedientl
proceeding on our part I But whether the general,
arrangements of Europe, concluded or contemplated,
by Congress, were proper or improper, the House
would not to-morrow be called upon to deliver any
opinion. Under all these circumstances then, assur-
ing the Noble Marquis that the information which hell
required, could not cot:lP:tend; be produced at pre-
sent, sad that such information ci uld in no degree
bear on the question fixed for discussion to-mor row,
he trusted the Noble Marquis would see the impro.
priety of pressing his motion.
The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM agreed, that if
in the motion of to-morrow it were not proposed to
call upon the House for any pledge respecting the,
arrangements of the Congress, it was not necessat y
to press his motion. At the same time he must ex-
press his surprise that any obligation connected with
those arrangements should have been mixed with a
question as to the propriety of seconding our Allies
in resistance to the present Government of France,
because such an obligation seemed to betray a desire
to obtain by a side wind the approval of their Lord-
, ships with respect to these arrangements. However,
upon the understanding stated by the Noble Secre-
tary, he should consent to withdraw his motion.

Earl GREY concurred with the .opin;un of his No-
ble Friend, that it the stipulations alluded to were fit
to be included in a ratified treaty, pledging this
country, they were in a state to be laid beime radio-
, runt. But, according to the Noble Secretary, they
ought not to be communicated to their Lordships,
because they formed no part of a ratified treaty.—
The treaty, however, of the 25th of March stated,
that these stipulations were signed and concluded by
Congress, and therefore in his (Lord Grey's) opinion,
as they were included in this treaty that was actually
ratified by the Allies, the stipulations themselves
must beheld as not alone virtually but really and po-
sitively ratified—(flavor, hear.) That Treaty too, it
was to be recollected, pledged this country, there-
fore it-was deshable to know the nature of those sti-
pulations, in order to enable the House to decide
upon the question, which it would be tumorrow
called upon to discuss, and which he must confess
that he almost trembled to consider. The consider...
thin of the general expediency alluded to by the No-
ble Secretary, and what was to determine the com-
mencement of a perilous contest, must in a great
measure, ilepend upwt the views of the Allies
and how could those views be ascertained, it thi:
knowledge of the stipulations, which formed a

part of Their Treat'sr gist withheld from o ,
House—it thdr Lordships bed not the means of
judging of the nature, pnnciple, and extent of th,
engagements—for the engagementt of the eonf4
racy might be such as to determine the inetpediert
of the war on our part, and to endanger the prospt •
of-success. In a contest so full of danger and ,
pense, be contended that the country ought not h
plunged with the consent of that /Loco, .
heing folly aware of the °hints of the coufedeo,c
With this view, then, he felt that it was mao.,La
put their Lordships in possession of the stipulatio
referred to, and also of the terms upon which Lht
XVIII. had acceded to the alliance, in order to u
derstand under what pleige this country WAS hi): •
to act, A publication had this day appeared, pc
porting to be the Manifesto of that unfortunate M,
tetra, whit!) contained these remarkable words,
Powers assembled at Congress resolved that Ole Si
cession of the King (Louis XVIII ) should
imanded to the new compact which they hail ju
eluded—their Ambassadors have brought coot
municatons to his Majesty - they presented to lora
the new credentials of their respective Sovereiges, tt,
reside wherever the sole legitimate SoVero ign c:
France was, and their powers being antarntieated
they offered the new Treaty of the Allies to Mama
don and signature of the King. Frenchmen, it)
King has deliberated and signed it. In ti re WOrd
alone lies your whole security." These words he (14.3,.
Grey) thought at variance with the Declaration an
flexed to our ratification of the Treaty alluded to
and therefore, previous to the consider ition 14 to
proposed Address. he felt that their Lordships ra .
be informed of the terms upon which Luis XVIII.
had acceded to this Treaty. He felt also that a e,,p
of the powers granted to our Arab issad.-r at th
Court of Louis XVIII. should be laid ri,
House. These documents, lie conceived hecessaty t
enable the House to decide upon the important ttit
ject announced for discussion toonorrow, and thtic
tore he required them from his Majesty's Miiii4l.co.
The Eat 1 of LIVERPOOL, in ref==it g to ti,
former part of the Noble Lord's speech, repot,,,
that the transactions at Vienna had no referetce what
ever to the question about to be discussed. Ever;
the present Rider of France had never returnol t
that country, those transactions would he in the sore
state as now. Certain' points were decid d, toes
until all were determined upon, they voila not b
embodied in a Treaty fit to be laid before the H..v.
but in no view whatever did they bear uprn, ;1 A
which they would have to decide to-morrow, v:ic
would respect an assurance to die Prince Herta :
their support in such measures as he should Air
in conjunction with the Allies, against the coma:,
enemy. With respect to another point touched upo •
by the Noble Earl, he could'only say that no lutria•
act of accession had been received on the part , •
Louis XVIII. or WAS in the possession of his istlj, !-
ty's Government. In regard to another observation.
it was true that certain Ministers of the Mite
Powers resided near the person of Louis XVIII.
but the principle upon which the Allies and din,
country would proceed, was not that of forc:ng Ira
the people of France any particular Goveninamt.
though they thought, and it was avowed, that th.
• restoration of the ancient dynasty in the legitimat.
line, would be the must likely to conduce to the gc
neral tranquillity of Europe, and the s!ci;rity anti
happiness of France itself., but they were n. t twerpd
to the support of Louis XVIII. beyond the
to which he had referred.

The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM, after a shot
further explanation, withdrew Lis motion.
A sheet conversation tuck place respecting the far.
ther progress of Lord Roseberry'► Diann ce BiII, in
which Lord GitetsviLLE,the Marquis of Lassoov:....,
and the Earl of 4..AUDURDALE participated, the te•
stilt was, that the Bill was ordered for disciassion nV
Wednesday; for which day, alter a few wr)‘l, be,
tween Lords GREW/ILA and ELLexsoftoutat, t
chscussiop of the Freehold Estates Liability
also fixed.
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE moved On
postponement of. the Order respecting his rni,t.,.ti .
the Cathulit• Petition, from Thursday se's, •
the hilluwing Friday; which, alter a -cr.:
from Lord KENYON* to the effect that anut:,:r J.,1•
would, for mote reasons than one, be prefer tv.is
ordered to take place, and the Lords summoliclac-
cortlngly.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
A Person from the Stamp Of Fri:seated an Aeaant of the
amount tf titamp Duties upon Pamphlets for the year !Mi.
Mr. W. DUNDAS nuerckl that the Clack:omit/au Gaul
should be committed.

Mr. BEN ET briefly adverted to tlie highly disgraceful state
in which the gaols of Scotland are, both as to tier want CYO*
veuienetes fur the prisoners confined in them ard the intaia.
of severe punishments. In some. he was informed. a Dusk et
confinement was adopted by chaining persons to die I;tsul4lt
which amounted almost to torture; and he thought some (dual
fur such Ithutos :night to be applied by government. it Wth
one halt the aiteialtni were paid to the general minaienteut and
regulation tit prisons which was given tv the nomination to Cl'l`
poration ollic. rs nr of persons appointed to places ter polult;31
purposes, there would not be so many Lgitintate causes 01 cola'
plant as now unhappily existed.
ivlr. W.DUNDAS sa:d he willingly admitted that filtir"/
the Gaols hi Scotland were liable to many just totnitiallit':,
within these few year five or six new gaols been erec:cl la
different counties, respecting which, as la as be knew, nu cua''
plaints were made.
Mr. B LN NLT explained.
Mt. FINLAY observed, that at Glasgow al! the obhtt,"ns
stated by the Honourable Gentleman were removed in nit sAJI
which had been erected at the expeuce tit the Corot:min.,.
After further conversation bet wetn Mr. As:. sionoccitt
Mt. W. We /4 si,, and Str Cl. Ceres x, the bill se 4, 0%:111111'""1
sod the Report ordered to he received to-morrow.
Lord A. HAMILTON presented Pendent, from 'winos
place sin Scotland, praying for a repeal of the Corn Bib, adios
were ordered to lie out the table.
Mr. AIikkCROMBIE said, that as he ordvalet' there were
many other Petitions on the road, having the come 3•t
view at 1110.0 just presented, it ought to he known by ttit;
comers that at this period of the nesskat it was not to bier
posed the House could proceed to revile or repeal its piutectlitust
upon that subject.
Lord A. HAMiI.TON said a fret words in reply wl:icb rue
not audible in the Gallery.

PRINCE REGENT'S MESSAGE.
Lord CASTLEREAGH appeared At the Dar of
the House with the Message from his Royal Fitt,.
ness the Prince Regent, which being brought up, il:c
Speaker proceeded to read it to the House.
Lord CASTLEREAGH moved, That the Mcs•
sage should be taken into consideration to-morrow•
Mr. PONSONBY said, he did not rise with IJ;e
intention of opposing the motion of the Noble birJ4
but merely to call the attention of the House to Ow
he considered as the very early period filed for tai 'b

die message hlttretsidetritind. to ordinary eases, be,
knew it was the red-ice **of Parliament to vote an'
Address to a Message fl.otn. the Crown, on the entitl-
ing day I but he believed there was no instance, at
least his memory did not furnish him with one, in
whichrarliament was called upon to express its °pi-
llion upon the Treaties communicated to it the very
day after they were laid upon the table. and espe.
I
cially where' they had to vote large sums of money
in c osequence of those Treaties. He really thought
th it mere than twentylour *hours were necessary to
enable the House to forma correct judgment before
deliverirm its sentiments. • •
Lord CAS I'LEREAGH contended,. that it was
entirely consonant to the practice of Parliament,
even on the most grave and important qui!stions, to
vote an addre4l to st* Message from the Crown the
y subsequent to that Message being sent down.—
With respect to the sehsidiary provisions which the
Home would be called upon to make, in consequence
of the Treaties laid before them, that certainly would
not come within the purview of the vote which it
would he his duty to propose to-morrow. He should
reserve that branlh cot the argument for a subsequent
dje. As to the general scope of the vote which he
meant to propose, he trusted he should he able to sa-•
ttO the House that be did not ask them for any opi•
which they were not fully competent to give
uteri the information before them ; and he hoped,
th::4ere, they would not think it necessary, in this
lost inc.., to depart from what had been the usual ar.
rangeleent, or hesitate to afford that cordi ii support
to the Crown which the present momentous crisis de-
nt.soded.
Mr. PONISONBY replied, that the House oils
distinctly t, be called upon for an opinion with re-
spect to certain treaties which Were to be laid before
diem 24 hours previously to such a vote, and he
eertaiely considered that interval too brief. In the
case f the Crown declaring war, for example,' and
concluding treaties with other powers in concurrence
with whom the MAT was to be carried on, a commit.-
uicat on would be made to that House, and all that
the House would be called upon to do, would be
barely to thank the Crown for the communication,
but not he apprehended, to come to any opinion im-
mediately Piton the nature of the treaties, or the po-
licy r justice of the war. He could mention one
very str..eig instance in point. At the time when an
application was made to the House for money to
assist Holland, six or seven days p issed before the
House returned any answer to that application. In
fact, he did not believe that the Noble L ird could
pr.,duce a sing': instance where the opinion of Par-
liarrent was given so hastily as on the succeeding
d iy, upon communications of the kind now under con-
sideration. The Noble Lord said the House were
substantially in possession of all the information con-
tained-in the papers which were ordered to be com-
neinicated ; but that was not the case. Out Go-
vernment had annexed a Declaration to the treaty of
the _'sth of March, which was sent to Vienna for the
aeprebation of the Sovereigns there, and he (Mr.
rim:entry) was ignorant, for one, how that Decla-
ration was received. There was another point wliich
he wished to mention :—He had observed, from what
passed in another place, that the papers relative to
the overture made by France to this country were to
be laid before the House that day. Those papers
had been sent by the Noble Lord to Vienna, for the
purpose of receiving the sentiments of the Allies upon
them ; and Whitt their sentiments were he cettaiiily
did not know. It appeared to hint, therefore, that
there were solid and serious objections against bring-
ing the House to an opinion so early as the ensu-
ing day.
LordCASTLEREAGH say, that the vote which
lie intended to propose might be one of simple thanks
for the Message from the Crown, or it might be one
of a different description ; but he was decidedly of
opinion that it would be more convenient to argue it
to-morrow, than to go mot it' by anticipation, by dia.
cussing a question which was not now before them.
With respect to the information which the Right
Hon. Gentleman seemed to think necessary before
the klouse could exercise a sound judgment upon the
subject, he bad received the commands of the prince
Ateget.t to lay before the House all the papers that
mid be necessary. Among those papers would be
found a dispatch front Lord Clancarty, communica-
ting the manner in which the overture from Bona-,
parte to this wintry was received at Vienna, also the
overture itself, and. the judgment pronounced upon it
by the Al.jed Sovereigns. He trusted, therefore, that
the IligheHosi. Gentleman and the House, when
they ho.rett4nsined those papers, would be satisfied
that every means had been afforded for enabling them
to form a correaand decisive opinion.
Mr: WHITBREAD said, that as an act of cour-
tesy it might have been envied from- the Noble
Lord that he would have given some hint as to the
nature of: the vote he meant to propose to the House
tomorrow, but the whole strain of the Noble Lord's
observation were, as usual, ambiguous ; nor could
he (Mr.
.Whithread) infer frost the Message, which
was equally ambiguous, whether the country, at this
moment, was to be considered as in a state of 'war,
or in that condition of armed peace in which it had
been for some time past. Now with regard to the
papers in tine .stands of the Noble Lord, which he re-
piesented as containing the fullest information that
vita.' be required upon all the points connected with
this important question, he had been informed, only
a few hours since. that the Noble Lord was not in
possession of the ratification of the Treaty by all the
Allied Powers. Probably in the interval between his
receiving that information, and the moment at winch
he was spaking,itsenight have arrives. He alluded
to the ratification by Austria. If it had arrived, it
was of dime included among the papers ordered to
be presented ; but if it was not among them, it was
surely an important omission. It might have been
expected also, in the fullness of that information
which the Noble Lord had announced to have found
among those papers, a treaty of agreement. concluded
at Vienna between the Allied Powers, and referred to,
in the very first article of the Treaty signed on the
25th of March, without which Treaty it would be im.
possible for the House to come to a thorough semi-'
nation of the whole subject. He hoped the Noble
Lord would inform the House whether that Treaty
was among the papers, or whether it was one which
could be communicated to Parliament I
bird CASTLEREAGH said, that he was dis-
posed to give every information in his poieer as to
the course he intended w pima on the following

. • ,st •
day,t which ionl,rbe 'impanel without (hawing oa,
Ifiebeetthietikancl by anticipation, a discussiOn of the
general question. He had nO objection, therefore, to
state, that the Address which he should propose,
would simply echo the sentiments •of the Message,
and give an assurance to his Royal Highness of the
support of Parliament, in the measures which he
might think it necessary to pursue, in concert with
his Allies, and in virtue of the 'Treaties concluded
with them.- But, in taking the sense of the House
upon that Address he did not mien to obtain from it
any vote, pledging it to an approbation of the subsi-
diary arrangements. The vote of to-morrow wouli
be taken upon the broad principle embraced in the
Message, that of opposing the pretensions of the com-
mon enemy, as hostile to The repo e and security of
Europe, without entering into any of the details com-
prehended in the subsidiary engagements. [The
Noble Lord her:. sat down, when Mr. Whitbread re-
minded him that he had not replied to the other ques-
tions which he asked. .I.,ird Castloroagli then conti-
d ]—Wit respect to the Austiiiii Ratification,
it certainly had not been received, and of cuurse was
not pet ViCh•lngell ; but the Hon. Member would see
from the Correspondence now laid up at the tab:e.
that the compleie and tinqualii•cil assent of Ansi' la
hail been given to all the stipulations of the Treaty,
and the cause of its delay was merely ministerial,
fro:n certain formalities and ceremonies which were
necessary before it could be expedited to this country.
He corisikred it, however, in every respect to he.as
form al and authentic an instrument, as it the ratifica-
tion had been regularly exchanged.
Mr. WHITBREAD said he supposed he might
take it for granted that not the smallest doubt existed
in the Noble Lord's mind as to die fact of the formal
'ratification of the Treaty by Austria, though it had
not yet arrived (hear, hear ! from Lord Castlere %h.)
He could not help remarking: however, how easily
any little informalities were got over by the Noble
Lord, when he was willing to c •mmunidate a docu-
ment, and how insuperable they were it an informal
instrument happened to be moved for by the opposite
side of the hinuse.- (Hear, hear.)-lle supposed
there was as little doubt in the mind of the Noble.
Lord with respect to the other Treaty concluded by
the Allies, and which, as ho before obseried, was re-
ferred to in-the first article of that of the 25th of
March, though perhaps it had not yet been ratifieA.
If, however, the Noble Lord, in the same spit it of
conciliation, would consent to lay that unretified
Treaty also before the House, or the substance of it
at least, they would then be in possession of all the
information winch was necessary, as far as he sea:
aware, to form a correct judgment ; but if not, there
would be this remarkable singularity in their pro-
ceedinga ; they would be called upon to approve a
ratified Treaty which commenced with giving jts
sanction to an unratified Tr:aty, and which unrati-
fied Treaty could not be exhibited either in toto or in
subsume to the House. Surely the Noble Lord
might get over the difficulty in the one ease as easily
as he had io the other, and at least lay the substance
of that Treaty upon the table. The Noble Lord had
not satisfied him either as to the nature of the Ad-
dress he meant to propose, or the Vote he intended
to in*. ve for. It was a very simple answer which he
ward to obtain. He wished to know whether the
Address would be considered as declaratory of the
commencement ant offensive war against France, or
only as a preliminary proceeding authorising effon-
sive war whenever the Allied Powers should see tit
to begin it?
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the Hon. Mem-
ber was under a complete misconception as to the
traasactions at Vienna. If any Treaty had been'
signed, by the Plenipinentieries there, previously to the
Treaty of :he `2sth 'ot March, it might undoubtedly
be in a condition tit to lay before Parliament eitnet
in substance or formally ; but in point of fact no such
Traty had ever been signed there. The deliberael
tions at Congress had certainly proceeded, and the
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Plenipotentiaries had signed protocid of those pro-
ceedings, which was the only instrument referred ti)
by the first article of the Treaty of the 25th March.
The engagements contracted by that instrument,
were engagements of honour and good faith, And so
far certainly they were binding upon the patties ;
but they were capable of revision if circumstances
should require it, and were not considered as having
that solemn character which belongs to a Treaty for-
mally signed, ratified, and exchanged. He could AS•
sure the Hon. Gentleman there was no Treaty in ex-
istence signed at Vienna pievions to the '2sth March,
that could be submitted to Parliament. With re-
spect to the explanation which he had given of the
course he meant to pursue to-morrow, he stated that
it was his intention to call upon the House to vote
an Address supporting the Crown in those engage-
ments it had contracted with its Allies, for the pur-
pose of maintaining the cause of Europe in concert
with them, against the efforts of the common enemy.
That Address, therefore, might be considered as con-
ducting to a state of hostilities against Bonaparte and
those who adhered to him ; but with regard to any
particular instructions which might have been issued
to our naval and military commanders, he trusted the
Hon. Gentleman would feel that it was not now a
proper time for offering any explanation upon that,
subject.
Mr. WHITBREAD said his question did not
point to any such information. With respect to for-.
tnalities, in reference to the Treaty or arrangement,
or whatever it might be called. entered into by the
Plenipotentiaries ..t Vienna, he would just read the
first article of the Treaty signed on the 25th et Marchs
4, The. high contracting parties solemnly engage to
unite the resources of their respective States, for the
purpose of maintaining entire the conditions of the
Treaty of Peace concluded at Paris on the 90th May,
1814 ; as also, tits ens elation determined soon and sign-
ed at the Congress of Vienne, with the view to complete
the dispositions of that Treaty," kc. Would • not
any common person reading those words, think that-
they referred to some stipulations which were binding
and conclusive, and not to such as were still subject
to revision and alteration ? But the Noble Lord bad
new toll the House, that the Allied Powers, in• the
exercise of those attributes which belonged to Sove-
reigns, were still at liberty
those stipulations. to change and modify
Mr. TIERNEY observed, that he understood the
Noble Lord as intending to call upon the House to
vote their approbation of the Treaties laid before
them. If so, .he must remark, that in the Treaty of
the 25th of March there is a direct recognition of cer-
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tittl stipulations entered into and signed by cbe Pi ono
potentiaries at Viennas Now, how was it possible
for the House to approve of tt Treaty cdnrilning such
a clause, without knowing to What it teferted ,f If
the Noble Lord would explain that circumstance in
any way that should appear satisfactory to the House,
he would be contented. there was another point
also, upon whict, perhaps, he would candid enough
to give some information—he meant, as to the amount
of subsidy which it was intended to propose.
L ird CASTLEREAGH replied, that with re-
spect to the latter question of the Right Honourable
Gentleman, he would find an answer to it in the
Pa-
pers about to be laid upon the table; and as to the
others, he apprehended he had already given a more
precis: notice of his motion than was customary. Any
further explanatio... of it would be, he conceived, not
only unusual, but derogatory to the character and
practice of Parliament. It could only tend to lore '
on the question prematurely.
Mr. TIERNEY said he was not endeavouring W
force i.n a discussion. He only wished to know upon
what grounds the proceedings of to-morrow were to
stand ?

Lord CASTLE REAG H replied, that he had mos: 1
distinctly state..l, that it was no: his intention. to call 1
upon the House for any epution respecting the Trea-
tiessubmitted to it, but merely to a general assurance.'
of their support in the war which WAS likely to ens.m'
Mr. TIERNEY said, that now they were told they
were only to return an answer to the Message, stung
asi.ug both the Subsidiary Treaties and the Treaty of
the 25th March. Would the Noble be pie iced
to explain himself in one word, without. any p Aren-
thesis ?—(4 laugh.)
Lord CASTIAREAGH returned no answer; and the
question was accordingly put, and carried in the af-
firmative.

Lord CASTLEREAGH then presented the fol-
lowing papers at the Bar, which were brought up and
ordered to lie on the table.-1. Treaties signed ori
the 25th of March with Prussia and Russia, and an
additional Convention to each, signed on the 3t)th of
April.-2. Letters from Caulaincourt to Viscount
Castlereagh, dated Paris, April 4, 1814, together
with a Leiter from Viscount Castlereagh to M. CIU.
isincourt, d+ted Downing-street, April Cor-
respondence between Lord Castlereagh and Lord
Clancarty on an Alliance against France.
Mr. TIE KN EY desired that the Clerk might read
the Ist Article of the Treaty of the 25th of March.
The article being read, he asked the Noble Lord
whether he would explain what the stipulations there
referred to were, or produce any document that
would afford such explanation ?
No answer was given by Lord Castlereagh.
CIVIL LIST.
Lord Avrtionrr inquired of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, when the papers moved for respecting
the eloo,ooo granted to the Prince Regent as an
outfit upon his assumption of the Rege:.cy, would
be laid upon the table ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH E.QIJ E R
said he had oily been w.titing for an oppoituoity t.
present them. The Right Honourable Gentleman
then presented them at the Bar, when they were
brought up, ordered to lie on the Table, and to he
printed.
Lord MILTON inquired whether certain persons
concerned in a riot which took place last winter at St.
Ives. in Huntingdonshire, arising out of circumstances'
eennected with the .collection of the Property 'Fax,
were to be proceeded against by ex Ifficie informations ?
The ATTORNEY GENERAL said, it would be
Improper, in the present stage of the proceedings, to
give the answer required by the Noble Lord.
Genet al GASCOYNE askeds whether it Was the
intention of Government to erect any monument to
the memory of General Ross?
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, that he was not
prepared to say what had been done respecting it.
Mr. A. BROWN adverting to a paper which had
been laid on the table respecting the operation of the
Officers' B;11, expressed his surprise that by that paper
it appeared that the Secretary and Clerk of the Crown
of 'Antigua had remained in this country twelve
months after his appoinrsient. lie moved that the
paper he alluded to be printed. •
Mr. GOULBU RN did not oppose the motion, but
said that on its being discovered that Mr. Aberdeen
(the individual in question) was still in England, a
notice had been sent to him, that unless he proceeded
forthwith to Antigua his appointment would be can-

celled.
After a few words from Mr. WHITBREAD and Mr.
GOULDBURN, the motion was agreed to.
The Local Militia Bill was read a second time and
ordered to be committed tomorrow.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
brought in a Bill to enable his Majesty to raise a sum
for the service of the year by Each• quer Bills.—Read
a first time and ordered to be read a second time to-
morrow.
The Law Officers Fees Bill was read a second
time and ordered to be committed on Thursday.
After a short conversation in which Lord PAL-
mentyroN, Lord FOLKSTONB, the CHANCELLOR of the
F.xcHivatuta. and L•ird MILTON participated, the fur-
ther consideration of the Report of the Soldiers En-
listtnent Bill was postponed to Wednesday se'nnight.
On the motion of Mr. J. P. GRANT an account
was ordered to be laid before the House of the sums
levied by the Court of Session in Scotland. on ac-
count of law proceedings, and of the application
thereof.

staid, DUTIES.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day for taking into further
consideration the Report of the New Stamp Dudes.
Mr. GRENFELL inquired whether any, and
what composition had been made with the Bank, for
the privilege they enjoyed of issuing notes without
any stathp whatever
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
slid, that a negotiation
_had been entered into on this
point, but that no specific arrangement had as yet
been made.
Lord LANCELLES hoped the Right Honourable
Gentleman did not mean, without mature considera.
lion, to persist in the proposed scale of Stamp Duties.
Some of them, be thought, would rather injure than
benefit the revenue. He conceived the additional
duty on advertisements to be of that description.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, Mt, with respect to the branch of Stamp Du-
' ties, to 'bleb the Noble Lord alluded, as well as

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