Star.
London, England, 1807-04-21 00:00:00

No. V.

MOTS OF VIDE ADMIRAL DUCRWORTII TO Tam all! EFFENDI
" Vice Admiral Sir John Thomas Duckworth bad the lionour
to receive the note of this date, tmnfmitted by his Excellency Said
Halet Effendi Bcibkie, with the propofids annexed. In conk-
quence of what his Excellency Said Haict Effendi fays, the Vice
Admiral cannot but perceive plainly that the Porte, from want of
authority over its lubjeds, has not the power of appointing a ft-
cure place for holding a conference. As the Vice Admiral knows
the fincere rcfped which his Britannic Majefly feels towards bis
Imperial Highorfs, the Sultan, he regrets from the bottom of his
heart that the influence of a Foreign Mioifter has extended Well
in fuels a baneful manner.
" Even to this inflame* Vice Admiral Sir Thomas Duckworth
Inclined to afcribe the contents of the propofal which the Porte
has offered sidle bafis of a peace. If he had not been aware of this
influence, the Vice Admiralyrould have been led to believe that
there was a ftudied intend= to infult him When a barn for pi:io-
dations was propofeJ, which would have only been deferving of
notice if Great Britain and her Ally, the Court of St Peterfburgli,
had fuffered a defeat front the arms of tbe Sublime Porte, and bad
eonfcquently begged a peace. The I/caporals of ;the Britgh

PiIRLIAMENTABr PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL so.
The Houfe proceeded to the hearing of the Appeal Cade, the
Earl of Galloway o. M`Hutchinfon, Mr. Adam and the lion.
Mr. Erfkine were heard in behalf of the Appellants. Further
confederation was fixed for to-morrow.
The Loan intereft Bill was read a (mond time, and the Com-
mittee appointed for Thurfday next.
Lord AUCKLAND fignified his intention of Rating the prin-
ciple of the Bill in that Rage of its progrefs.
The iriih Loan Bill went through a Committee, and was agreed
to without amendments.
SCOTS jolliCATlltE
Lord AUCKLAND fuggefted to the Hnofe, whether it was
really fair in the Noble Lords oppofite to ingraft upon a Bill, whlfh
had undergone the molt mature conlideration, both in the Houk
and in the country, a new Bill. extremely varying, and altogether
different in int principle ? If the Noble Lords difapproved of the
meafure, would it not be more confiftent with their duties to re-
Jed it at once, and then to Collie before the Legiflature with their
own propofition, having given that proper Parliamentary notice
which the ufage of the' Houle bad heretofore fandioned, and
which was peculiarly incumbent on the propofal of loch an im-
portant tpeafure, affecting as it did To great and refpedable a part I
of the empire. But if it was the intention of the Houfe to go into
a Committee, be was anxious to knew from the Noble and I-earn-
est Lord (Eldon) in what way the neceffary queftions should be
put to the Scots Judges? and whether they were to be examin-
ed upon oath or no t
The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the Noble Baron fully
competent to decide, both on the manner and the matter of exa-
mining the Scots judges. With refped to the inconfiftency and
want of fakeers attributed to chore who fupported the propofed
Amendments, he (tumid only for himfelf fay, that he never pledg-
ed himfelf to any further fupport, than a bare admillion that fame
alteration was neceffary, in the manner of adminiftering Civil Jul.
tics (ft'Seothad. Whether the prefent Bill was rcjedted or not,
he wss not prepared to fay what line of conduct be would palm ;
whettier, in tbc firft cafe, he would propofe any new Meifure ;
but Mb would certainly, if the Houfe went into a Committee, fol.
low up his own opinion, by propofing and fupoorting fuels amends
smuts as to him appeared corral and advantageous. _
Lord GRENVILLE would not defart his duty and opinions.al-I
though other Noble Lords were carders in the performance of
I
the one, and the recollection of the other. Whatever might be
the fate of the Bill which he had the honour to prepare, he would
continue to fupport its principle and proVifion, and he mined, for
the credit of the Houle, that it would not buffer a meafure to drop
to which, fcaree a month ago, it gave the molt unanimous fup-
port.
Lord HAWKESBURY denied that the propofal for dividing
the Court of Seffion into two chambers, inftead of three, as ori-
ginally propofed, was any violation of the principle of the BUl,and
therefore was a jet and coma object for amendment.
I.ords KINNAIRD, LAUDERDALE, and HOLLAND con-
tended, that the amendment, as propoTed by the Noble Baron,
(Hawkefloury) was a complete alteration of the principle of the
Bill. which, after fuch uncommon induftry, their Ski Mud
bad fubmittcd to the confideration of their Lordihips.
The LORD CHANCELLOR Ore notice, that he would, ma
Tharfday next, ask for leave to bring in a Bill for the better rege.
lation of the Court of Seffion in Scotland, founded on the fame
principle as the amendment of the Noble Baron (Hawkefbury) ;
and declared his intention of moving to poftpone the /lather com-
mittal for three weeks.
After borne obfervations from Lord AUCKLAND, the Honk
refolved ftfclf into a Connittie, profirwa.
When the Houk returned, Lord MELVILLE gave notice of
bh intention of moving, on .Thurfday next, for the difeharge of
the order which rendered the attendance of the Scots judges ne-
eeffary.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE expreffed his determination to
oppofe that motion, upon the plain ground, that if the Houfe
thought their attendance neceffary, on the dee.lion of a Bill to ge-
nerally circulated and known, it was, a fortiori, neceffary upon a
Bill totally new in its principle, and with which the Houfc and
country was unacquainted—Adjourned until to-morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Upon the third reading of the Sat London Water Works Bill,
a new claufe was propcfed by Mr. MANNING. which ',eat to
reltriet the Company from fuppiying feveral Plaen with water
Which are already fopplied from the London Docks. Upon this
the Houle divided, and the claufe was loft by a majority of 7s to

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belfatior, &fr. Arbuthoot, Were delivered% t? the Dragoman at •
sea. V/Itllft ftrangettirere attested framthe fernery, &•
.
the ssd of FehrearY. vifion took place :we underftand it was upon a cheek purportiog
" Titers is no.inelinatims whatever to depart from theft roma- to rettrig the Company from levying with water fewral places
his thisd, in order to give the Porte the &Inca paffible evidence that are contiguous to, or may be keyed by the New River elan.
that ban unalterable refolution, the Vice Admiral his the ha many. For this clank there were t9,againft it 76. The Bill was
Om to tranfmit to his Excellency Said Hetet Effendi an abftratft of I then paired' and ordered to the Lords.
the Inftrudlions which were prepared for Rear Admiral Sir Tho- Mr. Whit I'BREAD prefented a petition from a Gentleman
mu Louis, and to which that
of will ftridtly . adhere, if the' (Mr. W. C. Lindley), of the county of Tyrone, in Ireland, of
Ottoman Empire, in confequence of the iotrigues of the French whom he had not the kaft knowledge ; but it was a Petition
Ambaffador, has been unfortunately fo diforganifed. that his Es- cornp'aining of a grievance which was alledged to edit, and-pray-
(as be himfelf declares) is compelled to tog for relief : he therefore thought it his duty to prefent it to the
ceadlinlcanchyisSataitisHalfaajonet E,ffendi
to come on (borealo hitbma.t no Euglith Plenipotentiary has ventured Houfe.
'The petition being read at the table, appeared te Rate a number
6' Vice Admira Sir Thomas Deckworth has only to add, that of loyal adions performed by the petitioner in Ireland, which
the Width Ambalfador, Mr. Arbuthnot, has authorized him to de- brought on the total ruin
of
his family, and intolved hitofelf its
dare officially to the Porte, that his etiffion is at an end. - - the greateit deuky. 'caution prayed the interpoildoe ef dirt
" In the event that the Sublime Porte, through the inllidtion ol
lee ,
laid on Honourthe tableable Houfe in behalf of the Petitioner.—OrderedNbe
the occurrences of warlike operations, or from flaking off the r I . .
of the foreign influence, by means of which the has been brbught Mr. HUSKISSOK prefented the Treafory Minute refpcdthig
at prefent to the Lrink of dettrudtion,4sall evince a with to accede the appointment ora- Buys& goard..-Ordered to lie on the ta-
to the fair and friendly propofals which Great Britain, in her own ble, and to be printed. .
name, and in that of her ally, has made, in that cafe the Porte has The Traders' Mkt. Bill,the Innkeepers Allowance Bill, ate
only to fend off a flag of truce. Such a hgnificatiert will be attended the Oak Bark Bill, were read added time and palled.
to even in the heat of battle. The Refolotions of the committee of Supply were repotted, read
" The. Vice Admiral cannot fufently exprefs how warmly his and agreed to.•
Sovereign is batereited in the welfare of the Sultan, and how pain. • The Loroloa Port Petition was referred to a Committee.
fulit will be for his Majefty to learn, in what an unfortunate fitn-Returns terrain Id& Glebe Hooke were referred to tte
ation his Imperial Highnefs his been placed by the condudt of tante Glebe Houfe-Committee.. -•
of his Counkllors: I , The PAHA Apprentices Bill was committed and paired the Com •
• .
" The Vice Admiral allures his Excellency Said Halt Effendi .mktee,with fevail amendments.
,- • -• pinta ditntaS-• : •
of his high confideration.
' - Mri itOWCiRTH rote to put a queflion to az
a On board of the Royal George, Feb4241.91:10/.
a•u•cimoillt.„
• (silint4) . -Hon. Member on the other fide of the Houfe. It.
•
Insraecriosts TO /MAI eletital. SI! TII9MAS LOVII, WITY lead.
stassaci Iv arailatiocitita*l4ll Till UTTOlgiat'lLatit. Frfereace triaitieafOre which. had been the tub- "
rovaiiiiaaiza. -..- . . • - ~, _ s • , jeet o extreme diffatilfaftion, and might'. hiie '
(After recapitulating the caulks 'mite' ininnoleritaridtne be- been.ptodudive of Ciinfequerices the Mat' fatal to • •
sir Thant" 14°14" de" • eine poffeffions in India.
tween the Porte and Great Britain, ( licit the Heti:. Mahler
to iodinate to the Turkith Miniltry, how eafy It would be for the . ~ .
Brides (hips to make ttati.fclw.s matters of Conftiottoopte aim was proceeding to Rate his fentiments more at large •
Puffing the DardsoeUes, fo vainly wondered as Imptignable•-•-. when fie was called to order by the Right Hon. Robert '
The inftrudtions then proceed:)
Saunders Dunaas: The Right Hon. the Speaker ob. •
le. r was
a And now to come to the prefent potture of the negociatioe, ferved alto, that notwithflanding any Member'
by 'cOu-aefy•illowed to afk loch quellierneis might
beekhuToomregacsivLosziwis willttnotbe
peplt;anfeidt
htohndectolardepe,atrthaftroalthe
ainallzunglaionse
jots
taitneedeeOwfilpienhblwielisbofinerti--:a0
beyetritqWallifiitbeuft°ll'wilitbeinfilthithelear
"Matto the Dragoman ingomantbe Por°Ptiff theaPitotrtraafe. allftteathebPyohnime wmilliteshatioretaiinfiann thte
granted on' fuch occalions to enter into almicarray- '
frisodthip of Great Britain and Rulfia, the mutt accede to there
tion of farts, a defcription of circumftances, or a [late-
prapeCals inAgo. When there inftruetions were fent from England,
la aakqueoce of which Mr. Arbuthnot made theft requifitions, : Member inion or cottrfe
it was very far from being furpeeted that the French Ambaffador meet of the Hon's own op
had been chofen as Diredtor in Chief of the Turkilb military ope- of reafoning on the fubjal.).
rations. Since the arrival of the Width fleet before Conttantino •
briMifty. tHoOleWarnOwßltlesrithetih'atyit,aatnead.twh-hat throis.e:bfetaes whoa;
rte. this Ambaffador has been Peen on the Mores, as it he was
been take!! to afeertain what were the caulks of difafl
employed in eredling batteries, and t
hought
it ail the Inca!
hares which the Turkith Government thought it expedient to take.
It is, therefore, not only inspollible, in the prefent circum- fediOn, and Whether any Reps had been taken to-
ftances, to depart from any thing that has been already propofed, wards removing thole perfons who bad rendered
but it is alfo likewife infufferable, that the French Ambaffidor and theMfelves particularly obnoxious to the natives ia
an Eogli(h Ambaffador Mould in future refide, at the fame time,
in this capital. our fettlements in India ?
"In order,however,to give a proof of the fineere &fire which Mr: R. S. DUNDAS Rated, that this was a fob-
adtuato the Beni& Government, and thole who are entrufted with jet which had engaged the molt ferious attention of
the late India Board : it had been returned alto with
its commands, not to place the Porte again under the difagreeable
zealous aelivity by the prefent Board ; but as yet '
necetfity which !be was once before compelled to lubmit to, Of re •
•
moving a Foreign Minifter ; Mr. Arbuthnot cheerfully contents
(although it is contrary to his inttrudtions) that the departure of they had hot been able to obtain fufficient inforina!
M. Sebaftiani (hall form no part of the public documents to be lion on the fubjetl. When they should have a corn•
concluded upon; but only that the Turkith Ml:lifter Bull take all plate underftanding as to all the circumflances to
which the
neccffary matures to produce the accompliihment of this objea, Honourable Member alluded, he fhould be
by communicating to that Ambaffador his determination upon the
fubjedt. very happy to give that Gentleman and the Houfe
66 If the Porte will inftantly figs an MI, containing the Ar- every fatisfattory information which it was in his
ticks tranfmitted through the Dragoman, on the aid sock. and in power to communicate.
addition to this, a confidential and fecret article, which has for its Mr. CORRY deprecated a' l idea of coming to a
objeet the removal of M. Sebaftiani, then every batik conclafion on this head until a Gallant Officer and meafure on •
the part of Great Britain (hall be immediately abandoned, and the
Sultan will enjoy the friendfdp of his Majefty,in the fame man- Hon. Friend of his (Sir. John Craddock) fbould have
ner as if there bad been no mifunderftanding at all between the had an opportunity of giving his official RateMente
two nations!' which might probably be very different from the un-
-- authenticated rumours which as yet we have bad'
upon this fubjed.

I

NATIONAL. Darr.
On the motion of Lord HENRY PETTY, the
fecund reading of the National Debt Redemption
Bill wail pottponed till this day lennight, in order,
that it may be firit afcertained what will be the deci-
lion of the Legiflature on a Bill now pending in the
Upper Chamber of Parliament, generally caMed the
Loan Intcreft Bill.
CHURCHES IN IRELAND.
Mr. WICKHAM Rated at tome confiderable
length a variety of inftances of the dilapidation of
Churches and union of Par-inns in Ireland. He re•
ferred parti4ularly to the diftrift of Leighlin and
Ferns, in the county of Wexford, where 178 .pa•
rinses had been added to others fine the year 1791.
and it was in that quarter that rebellion was know;
to have raged molt fuccefsfully. He concluded with
moving, that a Select Committee •be appointed for
the purpofe of taking into its confederation the feve-
ral Ails of Parliament, relative to the building, re-
buildingiand keeping in repair of the Parilh Churches
in Ireland ; and alfo to examine into the different
Grants and Appropriations of money for the eration
of Glebe Houfes ; and to find out and (late to the
Houle what Parithes, Vicarages,Sec. have been united
together from the year 1791 to t Efos inclufive.
Dr. P. DUIGENAN would .not oppofe the mo•
tit.n of the .Hon. Gentleman, but he contended that
the poverty of the people was 10 great in many places,
that if it were not for the union of the parifhes, the
Clergy would have devoured the people. Betides
this, there was an old A6t, paired in the reign of
(tleen Elizabeth, he believed, which authorized the
Lord Lieutenant and Privy Council to divide or cow
fulidate parifhes according to the neceflity of the cafe,
and it fo happened that where the patronage of the
Crown was molt extenfive, there the union of parifhes
was molt frequently apt to take place ; for inftance,
if a Gentleman had good intereft and conflation: of
.any weight, a tingle parifh might be in fo low a (late,
that• it would not be worth his acceptance. He then
would perhaps give the real ftatement of the cafe to
his friend or patron, and afterwards a recommends-
lion would come from the Crown, that two adjoining
parithes fhould be. confolidated into one, which the
Bithop in fuch cafe moftly agreed to. He did not
enimate the population of Ireland at much more than
two millions, and the Proteltant Clergy would be very
much oppreired and unable to maintain the refpeEll-
bility of their lituatiun if the union of parallel were
not in many inftances allowed.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT übferved, that notwith•
(landing the power which the Learned Dottor (fated
to be vetted in the Lord Lieutenant and Privy Coup-
cil, he defied that Learned Gentleman to point out
as inftance of pariihes being divided within thefe few
years pan, though there were many of their confoli-
dations. He knew of one inllance, in the county of
Kilkenny, where there were no left than nine reCtories
and vicarages united in one.
Mr. PARNELL obferved, that as to the popallo
lion of Ireland, Mr. Blithe, who took a molt accurate
view of that firbjeft, Rated, that in the year 1788, I,l*
population amounted to 4,080,000.
After a few words from the CHANCELLOR of
the EXCHEQUER, Mr. FELLOWES, and Mt'
M. FITZGERALD, the motion for the Committee
was put, and carried nein. con.