Star.
London, England, 1831-08-11 00:00:00

Mr. S. IVOti
the Am.-n(1111.ns
Mr. Wasorowal
Mr. Perna, .aid
air•rod In

!`arnr SEvrvrr.Ner.

els :vie mg
the hill.

.harrow P.stiensels. In the enonty or Angimey, do
stand part of arhedtele F was sawed In.
That Aherestwi.h, tamperer, and Adnar, sharing with
eltdiran, in the entintv of Cardigan, do stand par. a .e"e-
ul • F was storeed to. _ _

That 'Avidly. sharing rannathen. in t 6• rnan•r of fat
tnerthen. 'tarsi mitt of geheditle F vs. agreed to
That Pwilhell !gown. ('Anwity, Bangor. einteeith. ‘hir;ne
wi►h Carnarvon, in the county of Carnarvon. wand part or
aehstinie F arta serest! tn.

Thar Outhin. Holt. Frezham, shatter with Penwell. In
the county of Denbigh, nand part of schedule P was
agreed to.
That Rhyddian. Overton. (Negri% Cam;only. St. Aeon!,
Holywell, and Meld, sharing with Flint. in the county 0,1
Film. do stand part of sebellule P ere agreed to.
On the motion, that Llend ifF, Cowiwidr. Merthyr- I
Tedvil. Aberdare and 'lmminent, share with Cardiff. le
Glamorganshfre. in the election of. memb‘r.
Colonel WOOD mutt now bring under the ene,iders'ion I
of the Committee the cope of lilerrher•Tytivil lie bad to
propose that Merthyr-Tydvil RhoniA be uoited to a herrl .f.
hewn which It era separated only by a brink, end which
mmesedlllllsbase ?.Ifl 6shabrtiters and that it 'horrid MAIM
• separate vseemher By the mom. of 1921, M Ithr.
Tee% Including the hamlet in vevion, had a population
of 19.025 snr h. No Imo than tweeter places, with lees then
19 000 inhabitants, had been eefrsnehised Each of the
counties in which them places were situated cent more mere.
sentativeo than the county of Gisenor;ran. Merthyr-Tidvil
had 680 101. honeelsoldere. In the election of the County

Members it could have no share, as it was to form a borough
with Cardiff. Swansea, which was to have a member, war
entirely unconnected with Merthyr.Tydvil. In the election
of the only remaining member in Glamorganshlre, the
member for CatrtlifF. Merthyr would be swamped by the
places to which it was pined. Cardiff and Meithyr had
separa•e intercats. and were, besides, twetty.five miler apart.
He should begin by moving that Merthyr be left out of the
I schedule.

1..0rd J STEWART fed that Cardiff', Llandar, &e.
would, without Merthyr, contain 10.000 inhabitants, and
400 or 000 101. house*. Cardiff had a fl turishing trade :
under these circumstances, he thought they might r: turn a
separate member. He could not explain why Staffordshire,
under the new system, should return so many more mem-
bers than Ohmorganahire.
Lord ALTHORP admitted the importance of Merthyr
Tydvil. But the question was not whether it Amid remain
representation, but whether the influence it would
enjoy in the election of a member with Cardiff. de* was fair
and ample. Its magnitude, the importance of its iron Ma-
nufactures, its connecsioo with all the interests of Glamor.
gatshite, must have greet influmee in the election. He de-
nied that there was disconnection between Merthyr and
Cardiff. The communication between the two places, owing
to the one exporting what the other manufactured, was pet.
petual. Glainotganshire in the number of its represent,.
lives, would be on an equid footing with the other counties of
the principality.
Colonel WOOD explained.
Mr. JEPHSON and Mr. TALBOT would vote for the
amendment.
Si, H. HA RDINGE said, if population was the rule,
Merthyr should have half a dozen members compared to the
boroughs of schedule B. The inhabitants of Merthyr had
presented a petition, complaining of the extreme hardship
of their case. Amongst other names, they mentioned Gates.
head, which was separated from Newcastle, though at only
two hundred pace distance from that city, sad though con.
raining only 11.000 inhabitants ; while Menhyr,with 17.000
inhabitants, was united to Cardiff, which was twenty five
miles off. He (Sir H. Hardinge) would say that the are of
Gateshead was, on the face of It, one of gross partiality and
great injustice. The Inhabitants of Cardiff had also pie.
senttd a petition, in which they complained of being sluiced
by the population of Merthyr. He trusted ministers would
attend to these petitions.
After s few words from Mr C ROKER—
Mr. WI LLIA MS would vote fa, the exdusiou of Mer.
thyr from the schedule, considering the comparatively un-
represented state of the iron manufactures of the south of
V. and the population of Merthyr Tydvil.
Mr. J. STANLEY opposed the amendment.
Sir. 0. MDR RAY.—The noble lord said Glamorgan-
shire was on an equal footing with the rest of the principality
of Wale.. But why should there be a differed*: between
the principality and the test of the [Joked Kingdom ?
Alderman WOOD must support the enfranchisement of
such a populous place as Merthyr
After a few words from Mr. Stevenson' Sir G. !Murray,
Lord Milton, Mr. Croker, Mr. Stanley, Mr. C. Pelham,
and Sir H. Hardinge,
MG KNIGHT said he would have preferred the union of
Menhyr with Aberdare only.
Lord ALTHORP said he should Lite the case of Met.
thyr into consideration. Meanwhile he must vote against
the motion of the hon. member (Col. Wood.)
Mr. CHOKER was glad to hear the noble lord would
reconsider the subject. Meanwhile, the Opposition, having
already its conviction formed, would vote for the motion of
his hon. friend.

The Committee divided.
Ayes (for the retention of Merthyr Tydwil in
Schedule F) ... 164
Noes ... .. 123 ••• • •

__
Majority in favour of Ministers........4l
Llanidloot, Welsh Pool, Machynleth, Llanfylling, New-
town, sharing with Montgomery, were (after a few words
from .Ir. Wvsw, not heard in the gallery) declared part of
the schedule.

After • few words from Mr. °WILSONS and Lord AL-
THOIP, the remainder of the 6th clause was agreed to, and
Newport was voted to return with Monmouth.
The seventh clause, that Swansea and other places return
one member, was adopted.
The eighth clause, regarding returning officers for the bo-
roughs in the preceding schedules, was nest put.
Sir IL PEEL said that this clause ought to be post.
potted, as it required consideration. There was only pro-
vision made for appointing a successor to the returning officer
in the event of death. Time might be many other causes of
incapacity.
A Lord LTHORP had no objection to the postponement.
Sir C. WE'IIIERELL doubted wheth.r the returni
officer ought to be named by the shtriffi..
Sir J. SCA It LETT said the sh, riff was the last p-rson
who ought to appoint the returning officer ; th.o souse, it.
reality, place suctt power in the hands of the noun *limb
might be of the greatest consequence on the eve of a general
election.

Sir °SORGE CLERIC said, he could not but witch
that in the very first clause which occurred as to tm winking
of the bill. it war so ill prepared, that it was oblig.d to be
postponed. That augured very unf.trourably for this new
cunstitation : it showed that even the ministers did not un-
derstand the tentlercy and working of their own bill. After
this, what became of the charges of having dimwit ye:a-
lit/41S deLly in Cie way til the bid %
Me. Ws LK.; hop, the clause, as it was to be amended
by the Goirermuem, wuold be ptir•td. (Neer.)
Claus: pisituned.
The ninth cause, for giving sit menthers for Yorkshire,
two fut each Ridit.g, was men rut.
Mr. WRA NG 11,111 observed, that they wereproceeding
with extraordinary baste, whet: they were obliged to post
pone the clauses. lie suggested the prorr;e:y of inertieitig
the number to ten, to suE•pt the deficiency as retailed the
county, namely—four for the West Ilid;r4, and three for,
each of the other two ltidiugs. Ile motel to amendment
to that effect, that the blank be Stud up w..is ih. word ten,
'instead of six.

Lord MORPET II said, the proposition can* sith r *try
ill grace from the other side of the house ; es. it sus out only i
intended to give two additional county members, but to tx.
tend the franchise to other towns in the country.
After a remark from Lord STANLEY,
Mr. SADLER contended, that Yoakshire wise not even
now sufficiently represented, and thta eircumstuluct was ak

The Cfl.4 IR .
enmity of I inmin
Vol. SIRTHf I p so
be I,fint fill/trlOnt to rho fevilivi ne ..he fre.bnid.As. l 4
would he ,lad if tbe attotre...e-neraf afoul I take the hill
home and burn an-'• 'wiry in a new nue fiund vl on COll-
- priminlea. (A laugh.)
"Ir. Vl' flalEi wan afraid ,ta., by eaw•tiel tl•ey
should ems., nominsenn diluting of entintlea in.t ad of no-
mination baronet'''. He nightil friestion to be
poupnuel till the 'cativol criesibm or the dirsioo of coon-
ties wan d eided.

Sir P. 11E14 ON *aid, tit,. whale minor of Lincoln was
well witieed with hiving the annoy divided.
Lord AI:THORP said, he had ol n'j vtion in postpone
the elanse till the diekton of enunt.e, was Ore d

Mr. HUNIE hoped the noble I .rd wevuld h • prepared to
Kate the prncipie u,ort which the division of rn .nties was
to take plane. He could not consent to arp dur.iion that
would live the effect of creating unsninatioos.
T:te chows was postponed
The House retnm•d.
The CH A I it M.l, W r• parted prrwress, and oh shied leave
to sit again this d.p.

On the motion of Lord A I.THORP. the house resulval
itself into a Commil-e on the G4me all.

Several clauses were agreed to. Tile house resumed.
Report on Monday.
On the Ft •pponrrtt of the Grant to the Dochessof Kinn Bill,
Lord A LT HORP said he had considered the suggestions
of his hon. friend the member for !Hid('low:, and felt reluc-
tant to make any alteration in the hill to diinini•lt the amount
of the grant in the event of the death of the Princess Vic-
toria, or It's 114jesty having children.
Mr. HUME said, he had the highest reap et for the
Ditches' of Kent ; but he thou rht in either of the possible
mita mentioned the grant might he diminished
L^td A LT HOK P postponed the further consideration of
the Report to Friday.
The other orders of the day were disposed of. and the
house adjourned at Two 01:toc v

!-PIRIT Of, THIS DA)".• JOURNALS.
TI NlES.—The expedition to Belgium is p %polar with
all cheeses is Fiance. not loosuse shy class mem a farthing
about King laopold, bat beestase they expect that the army
which is about to pass the frontier he destined to curry along
with it the French god Terminus from the southern con.
liars of Ilainault to Antwerp and Liege. They loot upon
the force which Lae ',heady passed the frontier as an army of
occupar ion, admitted into the B.lgre provinces with the con.
rout of Europe, but not likely to evacuate them at Europe's
comntand. Both Roysltsts and Republicans, Collins and
Orley fist-, speak in title sense, and entermin this convie•
non. Hence the enthusiasm displayed by the troops and the
people at the announcement of the armament. Hence the
young Duke or Orleans wart embraced by his whole regi-
ment, w'aen he B:w to the barracks to &dare its good
fortune In making a par: of the expedition. Ilene. se tear
again, men in the Bourbon journals, of the necessity of
keeping pois.ssion of Belgium, of oiling upon Savoy,
and of extending the French boundary to the Rtiine.
Heave the repuULcan papers Mete their friends w r joiee
in the prospect of seeing the monumeors of Waterloo over-
tunmed —the Treaties cf 1815 swept away—and the for-
tunes erected against Praiser oecupied by French troupe.
—M'iteit such is the .Late ot the poimiie mind in France,
noth.tmg is so mull to he regr, trill as any teertpting
opportunry f displaying its mintary firer, a entering
on the temporal) plowmen .11 ot its ,ancient cot:trews. Ti*
Punch gave:Daunt, we are pergameecen, is slaver, (igeenjpotwigs
i moue would it not deserve t its preser-ded generosity to 11:1.
glum was mad a cloak for the ittfainy of olurtdering it %),
but its servants may be changed. Its Chambers may get in-
toxicated with au b thon and its army may prefer • glorious
di obcd:cnce to a willing submission. We hope, however,
for better things. and se are onsunded that a. yet Nothing
beau dune by us or by E trope to excite its cupidity of
comities:. while, if it were excited, Europe need uot despair
of being able tee repreis
Ti MES. —lt has Lech coat seed by every %right man Is
Eorope, that those Linn:pendent geverniiitsts which looked
on while Poland was racked and torn to yieces by Russia,
Prussia, and A .stria, in their noon partitioos, that those
independent guetroments—K.gland seci Rance more par.
ticularly..—were passive shears in the moat afrociou. vii.
laity that ever was perpetrated by an joint fraud and force.
It is admitted, that uoterithstar.din_i the eternal blot which
this c.inie ha c
mpreased upon the oarecter of contenipu.
ray titans, and the fetal uvathruw which it gave to
tame whole equilibrium of European pow tr. Ito sufficient
reason cooh'. have been deduced front niche', ciieunistatce
fur breakiog sap a 'enrol peace, when it reolly existed, whe-
ther wan • view to redeem the disgrace, or to tea me. the
suoverted balance. Bu. the pa titina, in ae far ..s Ausfra
and Pruada tau been counam.ed, was lae ally m. dititd by
Napoleon. By the treaties which they made herb hint:,
Austrian and Pruesiati Bolanel—that is, the provinces of the
loot partition—were partially released from the grasp of those
plunderers. It has been said that the titaties made be.
menu Napoleon and the solitary despots V/11003 he
crushed with their own weapons. were extorted front
them by tear, and were no longer binding than SO long
as be bad power w enforce them. Then ot what validity
were the 01,144060 s incurred 11 Poland herself under the se.
vent tzeatiee of partition ? Was abbe eJ roe omen; in accept-
ing them ? What virtue was there in the treaties of 1814-
1816 which re-forged the chaos of Poland, and settled Ku.
rope by enslaving it ? Were the nations bought and sold
Eke cattle, and disposed of to masters whom they knew not,
or abhorred—were they to be for ever bound by the sets of
a congress which they nucleated; while no compacts emend
into from the tear a f Napoleon were to hold good
Of many attempts which Lau been made to shake off
or lighten the yoke of that dreadful c sedition of Inl3,
those of Prance and Belgium are the only oases which have
yet succeeded. If the treaties of 1813 were to be maintained
at all events, and on the ground of public principle and ne-
unity, why were France and itelgoon, atter one of them
had expelled the house of Bourbon and the other that eat
Nassato—eby, we repeat, have they men recognised as in-
dependent sta :VI, no., oestaatibin, the eosin ions made in
1816, by the alliance au called " Holy ?" Why, but to.
ovule: it was more cepedien! to make one treogaition with •
d.c eat grace, and without a was, Ciao to go to war and a es
• [treed to grant it. Bus it fret France and tree Itelgiuto
have been acknowledged by the parties who had placed them
omit, is. Ida. under a bootleg( *bath it was proved after-
travels they detested, aid which detesting they have bath
intiiigas try east of, *hat principle is there that can be
alleged as upposii.g itself to toe recogimision of ?
it takAl.D.—lt appears by a return made to the House
tot Commons, that the late freasurer of (tam Anne's bouoty
died in debt to the charity upwards of 30.0001. between
11,0d0i. and 12.0001. of which is found to be trrteoveraine,
either trout assets of his own or his sureties. It is true
eta me A elibishops and other dignified Ciergy, who have
ear managi:ument (or rather, as far as .lits particular item of
;be aCCANSiIt goes, se should say the u,s4uassgement) of O. •
mod, have agreed to make up time deficiency among then:.
'elves by yearly instalments eat 1,1061. so titan in la ter o 1
'Awn it they live. a .d arc of the same mind, there is a elle cc
of the charity losing nothiog but time iittettsis upon the
deficiency, ea the mesa Ul thug /0 lilt titan inc. that
gout for which (awl too for the benefit of the timaurv)
it was originally deetinen. Taint teeolution is highly
noncombat to their Luniships. especially as time tact must
likely is that the loss has beet eaccaetuned more by ski
augaect of the putieceseurs of most ut them Utah their own.
It is all act of lineralmt; anti justice tat, math; of being eon.
towed troth toe Cl.llSilaCt of some who tattOrl be named, who
ave not only d.cisitcsa .0 make up the panic dame:Dees .4
Senile of their near casio.mtione, but nix" are strongly suspected
01 revelling tu this moment in the spoil• of official nephew, .
But still we must ask, what apolopy et excuse can be
Armed foe such a gross ahuse as must here lave been suffered
make place, as time mere tact ot :MOM& et one-tenth et
that sum, being allowed to lie dormant in the hands ef
Treasurer, especially of use who appears to have *sly given

C.•••4‘al, ""47011111110,011/111.2104/'
eraw:Ceratirst of the line pursued by Ministers
menu of rhehatn.
(RAY honed the principle rimudlatiow would
to &ohm&
WOAD and Mr. SADLER said a few
JOYINST' 'N ereeivided that the ntanufae.
'al interim.. nf the Wee Ridilt of Yorkshire
If ro•nrrgefreti 11, the change prnposed•
npnosed the A mentierow.t.
rl 011 P was 0(1,1 of opinion 'hit both the me -
d
f•riculterai tureen's of Yorkshire would be
ed.
FR tirrilsined.
esprestott hie deelil4 nnpn‘ition to
nt of the lino. 'Member far SUMIWT.
Mr. Career Rrt.tlass. +n' the 1406.
laid a frw words, when the revion wee
is ',mi.(' then &elated to stand part of
RM AN solid the nest dilute WI., that the
-en ',ay • lint tenet.. -novives
4(MP arid. the divkinn of the r nulty woul