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London, England, 1804-04-20 00:00:00

known Inch was the attachment of the people of that
country to the Noblemen tnd Gentlemen, that the
number vronid be replaced in a very thort time by a
new levy.
Lord HARROWBY thought the Bill objeftiona-
ble, becaufe it went to deprive Ireland of what the
molt wanted for her own proteetion, a (hong efficient
force; while the principle of reciprocity, with regard
to the Cervices of both Militias, went for nothing in
the relent cafe as to the difpofable force; for by
fabffituting ten thoufand men for the fame number
taken away, there was no increafe whatever. • ,2
The Marquis of SLIGO praifed the condo& of
the Englitb• Militia in Ireland, and was convinced
that the principle of reciprocal fervice would ennui.
bute in a very eminent degree to the improvisment
and confolidation of the Union.

Lord HARROWBY explained.
The Duke of MONTROSE. min enemy to the
deliberations of all armed bodies. profeired himfelf
inimical to the Bill. _

Lord WESTMORELAND entered at Come length
into a variety of confiderations and cornparifons to
(hew the important benefits which the aseafure was
likelT to produce, in the fecurity and welfare of the
empire at large. When he looked at the prefent
Bill, which went to enable his Majeay to accept the
voluntary offers of fervice made by part of the Irilh
Militia, he eostfetfed he could not feparatc it from
the Bill by which the fame Militia was to be aug•
Incited. In this connetled point of view it could not
be denied, that a difpofable force was given to Go-
vernment both in this country and in Ireland, and
he mould therefore vote for the Bill.

Lord DARNLEY, at eonfiderable length, oppo.
fed the Bill.
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The Earl of EGREMONT raid, that although
he had not for a confider:lWe time had occafion to
addrefs their Lordthips, yet he conceived the prefent
meafure fo novel, and fo objeeiionable on many ac-
counts, that be thought it his duty to make a public
avowal of his difapprobation of :t.
Lord GRENVILLE blamed Minifters for not

fubming, in a fair and manly mode, to the cont.
deratian of Parliament, the principle of reciprocity
between the Militia eftablithments of both countries,
if fuels was their intention when they firft counte-
nanced the prefent meafure. But they were not,
perhaps, aware that the queßion had been in Come
meafure already decided. By the articles of the
union with Scotland, it was determined, after great
deliberation, that the Militia of England and of that
country, fisOuld be confined in refpwa to their ler-
vices, to the countries by which they were feverally
paid. His Lordfltip defended, with his accuflomed
ability. the meeting of the Militia Colonels at die
Thatched Houle, and challenged any Noble Lord
to point out why, or where. it was tmconilitutional
for a 'somber of Officers, all of them, without fcarcely
an exception, either Peers of Parliament, nr Mem-
bers of another houfe, to aerobic, and exprels their
opinion on a tulle& which moll materially concerned
them. His Isorelthip gave his moft decided diflent
to the Bill.
Lord HAWKESBURY fopported the meafure in
a Gott (peech and found fault with the refolutions
entered into by the Officers who fubtcribed their
names to them. He confidered it as a very great
error in them, to (peak as leniently as be could of
their conduit, to have ambled in an official and
military capacity, and to have poblilbed the refill of
their ilaliberationcat that useenng.
Lord ROMNEY condemned" the mealier% and
vindicated the condo!! of the meeting at the Thatch-
ed Hoyle, at which he had the honour to be be one.
Lords HAWKESBURY and FITZWILLIAM
explained. the latter of whom, being called to order
by the Loan CRAIN CIL LOA' fat down, when
Lord CARNARVON role* and contended that
hie Noble Friend was ark* in order. The queltion
being put on the fecund reading, the Houfe divided.
Cements% Peers 64, proxies 13, 77—Non Contents :
Petri 43, yolk 5..48—Majority ro.
Lord HAWKESBURY laid, at that late hour he
would not move for the fecond reading of the other
Bill before their Lordships, the bifit Militia Aug-
mentation Bill, but confine himfeif to moving that
the Bill, now read a fecund time, (hould be commit-
ted for tomorrow.
Lord GRENVILLE Rated, that he had infinitely
greater objections to the feeond Bill, than to the one
note read, and would Rate thole objettions at Come
length tomorrow. He agreed with the Noble Baron,
that it was now too late to enter upon the difeuifiou
of it.—Adjourned at eleven o'clock.