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London, England, 1822-07-16 00:00:00

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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.
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ROUSE OF LORDS, JULY 15. ^1
Thsirintlahipe met at ten o'elock, to hear Appeals, ' •
Slr Ontosa Noes Non., Ban. Appellant; Itoettroar, Re-
sPondena•---Ue Arroauer-Geszem. and Mr. Wamoriet.o were
heard for the Appellant • and Mr. Darr, in part, for the Re-
spondent.•••• Further heating postponed.
At a quarter to Ann o'clock, the Loan Outsmarts, theltari
of Seavesteseat, and Lord ittrassesca, appeared as his Ilia-
jetty's Continisaionen, and brought the Royal Assam to the
followlag Bills:
The Corn Importation Rill, the Five per Cents. Repayment
MN, the Irish Land Revenue Bill, the Scotch Register ties
thetirestaireeland Covaty Rates Dili, and three private
Sir GRAHAM and ushers brought up from the COSA-
mons the London Bridge Waterworks Bill, and the Scuds Spirits
Drawback Bill, which were read a first time ; and messages an-
nouncing that the Commons hid agreed to the Conaty Rates
in, and to the Bankrupts' Joint Commission Hill.
The Loan MU, the Charge of Pent.'ons Bill, and the Excise
Licenses Bin. were read'a third time and passed. •
The Earl of LAUDRRDA LE postponed the Committee..
the Scotch Jury Rill until Wednesday next.
The Court Fees Bill went through a Gamma,,.
r.efrd
"Fli;:s.anuities Memorlab BSI also went through a Camelia-
tee, and the Report was ordered to be received on Wedolfeiy..
(MIMIC HOSTAGES.
Earl GROSVENOR seeing a Noble Earl in his place (die
Earl of Liverpool), wished to know whether he would bay* aft
objection to an Address being moved to his Majesty, redo."'
that iould older of

bdt any commlinigatiod with the Governinent of
Split', awl whatever neieciationi might now be car=
Tied on with that Goveriusient were not in such a state
tis tb author* him to make any communication on
We :Object to the House;
The Matitiiis of LANSDOWN had hoped, that if ,
hill Majesty's Ministers did not think themselves justi-
fied id openly recognizing at once the independence
of the South American States, they Would at least
have engaged in the preliminary steps necessary to
brin# about such a recognition. But although an
admission to that effect would hale been more grati-
fying to him, he was glad to leara that our trade
ileitis South Angiica *as under the, same protection ,
Mich
u ith taker countries, and that, in the case to
Mich be, had alluded, the owners bf the captured ,
Vessel Were iiheinais obtain redress: He should sub--,
mit so.thetioble paskt _Whether it w,oirld not be ez-
pedient thrie a copy of,.thb eciimuniCatiOns and re.:i
aseestrances•which bad taken. place.ou iliat subject
I,eingelst beigisionAirrisigedehipal.ta*?
1.1 111,41111gboHLITSRPOOL said, test a strong re-
monstrance bad eadogbiedly been,inede tothe Spa-
nish Government, but was understood it, object to
its production at present, as the communications had
hithertoled to no result, and .the, knowledge of the
fact that such a reasonarance had been made, would
be • _ .._ _

he wu copies or extracts dispatches, re...-
, sufficient to satisfy the Public, With respect to
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from the British' Ambassador at Constantinople, relative to the
execution of the Greek hostages in that city, to be laid before the opening of negociatioas with the Spanish Go-
the House? vernment, to attain its consent to the recognition of
The Earl of LIVERPOOL conceived that the relation was tee South American Independence, he had not wished
the Noble Marquii to understand that such negocia-
of too much importance not to require some previous node,..
Earl GROSVENOR then said, that he should move such an
Address on Wednesday next. dons had not been opened, but that the result cf the
TBADa WITH SOlnfi AbIItRICA. communications made was not in that state that would
The Marquis of LANSDOWN had been prevented enable him to lay them on their Lordships table.
by the illness of the Noble*Earl opposite, from put- The Marquis of LANSDOWN would not press fnr
the production of those communications, but would
ding to him the questions of which he had given
notice, respecting the relations now existing between ieserve to himself the right of asking; some time
this country and the independent States of South hence, what had been the result.
America. What had since occurred had shewn him ALSHOUSLas LICSKSEs.
that it was important for the interests of trade that On the motion of Lord AUCICLAND, the itOUSe re
he should obtain some information on the se solved itself into a Committee On the Alehouses' Li-
lect.
Their Lordships must know, that a British vessel en- tenses Bill.
gaged in carrying on trade, between one of the lute-
Earl BATHURST opposed the clause Which tended
pendent South American States and our Colonies
to prevent Magistrates from depriving publicans of
bad been captured by a Spanish ship, carried to a their licenses; -unless a regular complaint had beeh
made before them, and had been tried at the Quar-
Spanish colony, and there condemned under the laws
ter Sessions. His Lorchlip was understood to object
tif Old Spain. It was, therefore, important to know
whether his Majesty's Government intended to do to the difficulties thus thrown upon the informer, and
that which the whole world would approve, namely,
to the addition which would thus bit made to the bu-
to recognise openly ihe independence of those States, sines: of the Quarter Sessions.
or whether the relations which existed with them Lord AUCKLAND defended the Chaise, Whig*
eats
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were such as to induce it, without such a recogni-
was lost on a division ; the numbers being
Cont - - s o
don, to give protection to British vessels engaged in Nonn-Contenti . - I re,
that bona fide trade, which was already highly here- Majority against the Clause - —9
ficial, and was likely to become still more so to this The other clauses were then agreed to ; and the
coobtry ? If any reasons existed to prevent a direct House having resumed, the Report was .ordered to
recognition-of the independence of these States, there be received to-mOrrow.—Adjourned ,
4ould be none after the abandonment of all claims by HOUSE oil' CoMMoNA
the Government of Old Spain, and the transfer of the SPltAria tot* the Chair, imon
At in t f
the Spanish vessels to the Independents by a regular theeeneeettshetno ;seem re OUT
summoned by the Meek Rod to the House of
Convention, to withhold from vessels engaged in that Lords, to hear the Royal Assent given Ist Consmission to '-
trade the same protection which would be granted to ous Public and Private .13114.—(Fur which see Lords).
them if they were trading with another Power. Mr. LUSHINGTON presented a Petition from the Publi-
The Earl of LIVERPOOL stated, that when it
etearhilseoefnCdantertibuturyedagainst tile Deer Bill.—Ordered to lie on the
had been beard that the British ship, the Lord Cu!- - Sir masTPERTON URE presented similar Petitions from
lingwood, had been captured by a Spanish vessel, Weymouth and Dorchester.—Ordered tq be printed.
under the pretence of its having violated the blockade, Mr. MANNING presented similar Petitions from the Li-
etoenbseedpriVnitcetduallers of Sandwids and Deal. in Kent. Ordered
no time had been lost in demanding information from
the Spanish Government on the subject. Undoubt- kir. BUTTERWORTH presented similar Petitions front
edly had a blockade been declared, it ought to have Cheltenham, Holkingham. and Reading.—Ordered to be printed+
Similar Petitions were also presented from Manchester, Ashby..
been observed, but in the present case no notification
under-Line,inneintithandhsei several places in Lancashire, Twickenhami
whatever of the existence of a blockade had been re-
ceived. The answer given was, that the Spanish Go- places in Suffolk, Hertford. lay, Rochester, Itartbafaoril:anvriarare,
vernment had received no information whatever on mouth.--ReadandTye Charge of Loortelenredßituo, litehdonthethe table,e Inanddialstcopturinpteendy.l
te read a second time, and ordered to be corn.the subject from South America, or from any part of
its own colonies, but that inquiry should be made.— mittnedßtn w io.o were
Matters rested there till a copy of the Decree, order- - The House went into a Committee en the Weenier' d
ing the condemnation of the vessel arrived. The first Act.—The several Amendments were agreed to and the Report
Thered to e
!ioubseeragreckeiedvedtto°-seniv"reial°alle' /Muttons In Committee on
step then to be taken was to ascertain the ground on ordered
which the condemnation was founded, and this ap- the subject of this Att, the Report of which was ordered to be
peared to be, not a charge of violated blockade, or received to-morrow,
any informality in its papers, but an assumption of Mr. LIEN NA RD presented *Petition from certain inhabitant
piratical conduct on the part of the Captain of the Householders of Middlesex, coniplairang of abuses in the Coun:y
ship. No time was then lost in sending positive in- Cohn.—Orderedlnd to.d bee prinol.
Works The Hill dos reati a third
.o en Mr g Watertin*
structions to the British Minister in Spain, to demand and passed.
that justice should be done, and that reparation should The House went into a Committee on the General Turnpike
be made to the owners of the vessel. With respect Road Bill. Report to be received to.morrowl
to the relationi existing between this country and the ChNalpre.l Wall, ESTiEroinst 14
certain edi
i. ha hiPteatittioirf againsti the Highgate
South American States, ever since the beginning of leinsour. and St. Pancras: This Petition wa order
ate;dHtoorhenseref,
the contest in 1808 or 1809, England had enjoyed the furred to the Comorittee on the Bill.
benefit of a free trade with South America. Expla- Mr. HUn
ME presented a Petitiosi from the hcittleireeperil of
nations had taken place on this subject between the OrKeder. egdttolaieg Onuththe euirisions of the t Multi Cobat nui.L..
English and Spanish Governments, both during and Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW presented a Petition from the Li-
after the war, and our mediation had several times been . sensed Victuallers of Kingcton.on-Thames against thp Beer Bill
fruitlessly offered. In all the communications which Mr. BUOUG 11 All said the parties from whom this Petition
had asset
d between the two Governments it had ''''' "'ere
one parish wheelerelikelyrolsethere seer L- 4
under the mil
e ass brewers' of
illva":8- lie
p , knew
been always clearly understood, that the trade be. one fret house. .The Petition was ordered tulle on thoteblea:d
tween this country and the Spanish colonies should Mr. WODMOUiII and Mr. Caosaa presented similar Pttitiops
not be interrupted, and that in any part where Spain from the City of Bath, and from an individuale a Brewer at
might regain the supreme command, the most cote- Portsmoh ohuth.—Ortoderefdittoi be printed.
Pear., tlik Ileptiii of tie
plete protection should be granted to British pro- Irish ittaistnah‘ let
..nßnol
was taken
atnc reitnatroy
further consideration, and
petty, and the ancient Spanish colonial system should agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time usaacerwl
not be resumed without giving us proper notice. In SMUGGLING LAWS.
Consequence of the present situation of South Ame- Mr. J. BENETT presented a Petition from certain
rica, an importint alteration had been made in our persons, in prison for smuggling, having been taken
system towards the States of that country. Hitherto on board the Susannah, by the Ranger revenee cot.,
the trade with them could only be carried on in Bri- ter, complaining of the severity of the Navigation
tish ships; but by a clause inserted in the Act -lately Laws, and praying that they may be mitigated so as
passed for amending our Navigation Isaweo that trade to be more consonant with the laws of nations and
might now be carried on in South American as well the rights and liberties of Englishmen. The Poi:.
as in English vessels, and the result was, that the in- timers stated that they were sailing within fifty miles
tercourse with those countries was now as lawful an of the Dutch coast, under Dutch colours, when the
intercourse as that carried on with any other cowl- Ranger fised upon them, and killed one man and
try. This was the state in which our trade with wounded another, in execution of a right of search-
South America at present stood, and he admitted that They stated also, that they had only of against
it was the duty of his Majesty's Government w see some technicalities in the law.--The Petition was read;
that its benefits-should be duly enjoyed. As to any and on the question that it be printed:
farther recognition of the independence of the South Dr. LUBHINGI'ON expressed isb surprise that
American States, it was a question of greet import• this subject was allowed to pass in silence by the other
since, in which it was proper that his Majesty's Go- side. He had no hesitation in saying; that these in.
vernment should exercise its discretion according
.to . dividuals, if
now in prisoa,. were unlawfully SD, and
circumstances. It would not be suited to the dignity lif ashy statute contained provisions, antherishik their
and honour of this country tu take such a *op *ids; detentioa, it was contrary to the right; of natio/14,4d

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