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Mr. WHITBREAD, in enagequeocellherlaz
sorer he had received last night from a g
ral, the Secretary to the Lori Lieutenant neirelo4
gave notice, that he would move on Moadayifett,
lotion, that the office of the Secretary for
was an efficient office, and the- adatrthersot-ongbt
not to be paid to any but the person doing the duty.
Sir SAMUEL - ROMILLY'c tquity Debtor's
4 committed for

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..,;.., ~. inon would e run to ers
l'"4". -.int Whformati o desixtitLit, .b 1 bvtote i letter to Itiajok
." and Mr. Finnerty' called on me in wow
monte ; but from,my conversation with
.him, I had
... e*,Het reason to think 4i, h'adlno infatmatiorwirdaver
to ive on the subject, nor did he ever give me any:
i :You- A* 10:-Tiblicify -you'isay. a few data ago
Had you not then lame Conversation respecting these
charges ? A. 1 answer tharanever tezeived.any in..
'-- -.ld kid" do the.

the passage in Mrs. Clarke s letter respecting hfr
that he was son of his Royal Highness. l'he
,was dated in July, 1908, and she was separated • r.
!his Royal Highness two years before, althougi,
appeared from the letter he had not then withdt.s..
his protection from the boy, thotish he cast
Mr. J. C. BERESFORD Old, he had atter:
.111051 anittatel7.to,the evidenced Mrs. Clarke :
loltheiliight, arid pariiiiiilliette nadir and rri,

Relief Bill was read the second time, ani
Monday, ‘.
Lord HENRY PETTY deferred his Motion oa
the subject of the Cintra Convention to Friday next,
and hoped the Papers for which he had moved would
be. produced in the interim.
MILITIA ENLISTMENT.
Mr. HILEY ADDINGTON wished to leirn froth
his Noble friend (Lord Castlereagh), whether the ma-
jority of the men enlisted from the Militia into theline
in 1807, was raised chiefly from the old Militia, or
from the new levies ?
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, that he could
not answer accurately ; but so far as re4nliection
served, he thoeght the.greater part was raised from
the old Militia.
TILE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
Mr. WARDLE moved the Order of the Day for
the Committee to investigate the conduct of his Royal

fort-aeon from-Mr. Finnerty that 'coll.
charges I hive Made. I believe he had none to give,:
and none did he give me. I
.never in itiflife 'sawMr. Finnerty until after I wrote the letter to Major
Hogan.—Q. Was k before or since the exaMination..
of Dr. Thynne, you saw Mr. -Finnerty ? A. I never.
saw Mr. Finnerty from 'the. first time, 'some .months'
a_bap, until the evening before the examination Of Dr..
Thynne, when lie spoke to me in or near the lobby of
this House.-.-Q. Was not the day -the Hon. Gen:
deman sass Mrs. Clarke three times, the.da,
diately before her•eximination ? A. As I stated•be:
fore, I was inditced to believe that whic'h passed. onl
.Tdesday, had occurred oti Monday, and I yesterclay
communicatUi my mistake to the Chancellor of the 1
Exchequer and the 'Speaker.
Q. (Mr. J.C.l3sitesiknoa). What was the•CM1131111-.
nication _made to you by Mr. Finnerty respecting De.
Thynne
i Lord "

4tght. - -
of her testiMotty.therr,- -with tliedirect coritradi :
,this night given toler by the • statement' of the I i, .
Gentleman. who -ibrkvard the charges,
gether with the exposition of her motives, appal
from her. letters read by the House, lie sub:ri;,,.
Whether the Cotnmonsof ,EnglanAl would feel it c.• .
sistent with their own :dignity, to proceed an? •
ther with the investigation d. Stith Charges
the illustrious Personage, f6thided upon the
of that infamoui woman, for such he would c4;11 is
Would the Housewife: their ears to-be.woundeti,
their feelings farther hurt by-seeheilumnies
the Royal' Duke ; -or would • tlierdegride tlic;;•
dignity by inquiring into the priv*te
.arriours
Duke of York, or 'the base iurtlgtteC of this infarn•
woman'? He trusted the House would dismiss t:
business without farther pmceeding.
Mr. FULLER decidedly opposed the propositi,%l
.a the Henottratile Member. .He. wished the

ob'

gitestion• as

-Highness the 'peke of . ork, touching the sale sindi _ FOLKSTONE jected to. this
disposal of certain Commissions in the Aim y, - and , totally irrelevant to the present case. The Honaura- libation to proceed to its utmost extent. He wishe3
the House resolved accordingly. 1 ble Member had already declared he never had re. to have the business prebidto the. bottom, in ore r
Mr. WARDLE, pursuant to his notice of yester- ; ceived any information - from Mr-. Finnerty upon the that the charaiter of the Illustrious Personstge enne
day, 'moved that a proper person do ateend this, day i subject of those charges, and therefore it was riot nee! stead vindicated to the'Vent-Oin tliqtrees Imams, ,:a•-..,,-
from the office of the Commander in Chief, with the . eesrare nor reasonable he should disclose cornmuni- acensations proseedingiirom uodungelse than a fen
books containing the applications of Sub:deems to . cations upon the other topics totally irrelevant,. , • .• and infamous ecnispiracy egainst theeon of the Cron..
purchase promotions, within the period in v:hich Cap- i Several other Members also- objected to the ques- and collaterally against the Crown itself ?he un
min Maling had received his three commissions ; and time ;_ and Mr. LEALskviiro was'at length induced to sure that his Royal Highness, as "au honest neee
also the books containing a list of the Subaltern Offi-t withdraw it. . . , would; lee acquitted by a House composed of his h,:.
cers, with the dates' of their commissions, and stat- ! The CHANCELLOR of the - EXCHEQUER nest fellow-conntrymene•
in? 'the merits of their respective claims. stated, that his interrogation of the. honourable Gvn- ' The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER en
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER : tlenean arose out of his own testimony ,on a former: pressed his confidence than although his Hon. Friee
had no objection to the former part of the Motion, i night, and in order to contradict the testimony given . (Mr. Beresferd) might feel his own. mind convinc •
but objected to the latter, inasmuch as the books !by Mrs. Clarke ; for she had declared, -that shelled upon this subject, yet .that he would consider that e...
would be sufficiently numerous to fill a cart, and • not seen the Honourable Gentleman at all on Tees- minds of others might .not feel •convietion eneee,
would rather embarrass than inform the House. He day, and that she could not have seenhim, because . strong; and that he would not, therefore wish to en
thought the Honourable Member's object would be 7she, was from home the whole day ; whereas the Ho-; nriye the House prehe ,Royal Duke pith; ads inteee
as fully answered by interrogating the &Neer who i nourable Gentleman had stated not only that she was !of that testimony proposed to be adduced by his lent:
should attend. At least it would be advisable to !at home that day, but that he had 'seen her at'her ' Honourable and Learned Friend (the Attorney-U-.
postpone the latter part of the motion, until he should : house . three different times. It would be therefore . neral), and which was to shewthat no,reliaace wee,
first find his purposes not answered by the infoirna:i for. the House to judge, whether any degree of credit ever was to be placed upon the evidence of a woni.:l.
tion he should receive from. the person who should was due to the ttestitionyOf a werrian, who, after all who Was not only contradicted most positively by tee
attend from the Duke of York's office. her own prevaricatiohs, had. been thus directly contra-, Honourable Member whobrought lorward the eliet...,::
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To this,
.after some conversation, Mr. WARDLE dicted upon the testimony of the lionoutable Member : upon her representations, but evho, after obtaiiii!,g
Receded, and the motion passed. himself ? . . i credit to a considerable amount, by represeitting her-
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The House. then resolved into the Committee. - Mr. ADAM now rose and read to the abuse two. self as a widow ; the moment she was called on fer
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Mr. WHARTON In the Chair. • . letters Which he-regretted he was Male toproduce on her debts, turned roliod, and said she was a marree
Mr. WARDLE rose, in the first instance, to cor- a. former night. They were addreised tolimself, in i woman ; Who atfirst•stated herself to have been mer-
rect an error in an answer he had given to the clues-. Bloomsbary-sqUire. The one was dateclSunday tnnrn.,l rued to a Gentleman, whtiliadelever any concern in
iron of -a Right Honourable Gentleman, on Wednes- ing,June.l9,lBoB, aud.signedld. A:Clarke. The other- trade or 170ii.ltesa, and yet whose husband emend te
lip night. The question was, whether he had not .ivis.dited-Saturday, morning, but-withont.theday-of have been, a stenemison, With; whom- she had lived
seen Mrs. Clarke more than once upon last Tuesday? the month or dated 'the year. He. haetnotstndorsed : three year% sod by whom she had • three ebildven.
But, confounding in. his recollection at the mornent,..-them upon it, as was his custoin butlethought it : His Hon: Friend must surely see the necessity of net
Tuesday with Monday, he answered that he-had seen I must have been: the Saturday folliniing,,,. Ile would , refusing tOhear evidence of so important acontrade.
her but once on Tuesday. He wished now to correct I now, with the leave of the House, 'read: them both. : ikon. . Theye was .no doubt that Mrs. Clarke mild;::
that statement, as from subeeqtrent recollection he Tire first was to the ptirpott following : • .1 have received- money, in this ,clandestine-way, r.^.l
found he had seen Mrs. Clarke twice on that day,' " S,r, on the 11th of Mary, 1806, it was the pro-e might have, by false representations, have held out
once in the morning, and once in the evening, among' mise, of his Royal Highness the Duke of Yori 'to ; prufisions of her infitienee over his Royal Highnen ;
some company in her drawing-room. 'I allow me 4001. a-year. This allowance is now in I but tae great question for the House to consider was.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER:! arrear, for his Royal Higbness owes me 5001. After! whether his Royal Highness ever knew any thing ei
then interrogated the Honourable Member.—Q.Whae! the manner in which hit Royal Highieene has) her eLendestile- transactions, or 'ever in the smelter
time did the Honourable ittember stay it -Mr:' treated me, I haie now nothing left to deLend on,i 1 dt,tritOarticipated m her, gaits ? It was, therefore
Chile's on Tuesday Morning ? A.! cannot correctly i and I iin thereforeciame to:the resantiiin'ijfitialiit of.-the btntost eonsetinence to the ends of justice, :iel
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say, perhaps half an hour.—Q. Did the Honourable my intentieni linievree I therefore propose, Sir, that I the cleirecter of the illustrious-personage., not to r;:.
Gentleman come there in his carriage ? A. I can't i he should settle upon me *4OOl. aeyeer for Sfe, and i ject any testimony. which .could,still further prove ten
'decidedly say, but I rather think so. I have been I pay me the enter due ; and-if he refuses I have no Ino credit whatever was due to
.the testimony of the
constantly in the habit of going to Mrs. Clarke's. r ;other means lift than to publish all the transactions womeh upon whose • statements such "charges wee:
can't say positively, but I must have gone there ini which have passed'between his Royal Highness and founded. ;
my carriage.—Q. What hour of the day was it you me. I wish. he may ci;enply—beceuse there are many, Mr. Puou was c.allel, but was-not in attendance.
went there ?A. I can't exactly say. I think the first of those transactions which it. would be 'extremely ine . LUDOW ICI,: A ItNICRAND.
time I saw her on Tuesday was early in the morn-
,furious to his Royal 'Highness to see published, and Q. Whose servant are you ? A:.H4 Royal Hi ,l:.
ing ; and 1 went with her in her carriage down to the lit would be very unpleasant to my feelings to boob- ness the Duke of York's.—Q. How Icing have y!
King's-road.--.Q. Then the Honourable Gentleman i lilted to disclose them. It is now in hiS power, if he been in his service? A. Eighteen years in Septembt:
called on her in the morning. And what hour in thelchooses, to prevent me. I will send a copy of what . next.—Q.,Have you been in it constantly during din
morning did he.call on her first? A. I can't precise. I shall write to every branch of the Royal Family.--period eA. Yes.--Q. Do you remember theileiikes
ly recollect • but I should think ' about eleven or 'One thing more: I wish to add, should lies Royal visiting Mrs. Clarke in Gloucester Place ? A. Yes.--Q.
twelve o'clock.—Q. Was it at that-time the Hortoure 1 Highness abandon my boy, I hope he will place hin4 Did any, and What servants attend the Duke on those
able Gentleman called upon her in his carriage ? A.! in the Charter:house •Sc'uool, fir some etherepubli visits ? A: None but myeelf.-,Q. In what capacie•
No, it was not : I walked there the first time.—Q.l foundation. :My boy is not answerable for my faults do yon serve the bake ?A. As footman.—Q. At
How long did the Honourable Gentleman stay, ati—you will please to communicate this to the Duke what time do you usually. go to the Duke in the
the time he walked there'? A. There was a man nut-1 of York. His Royal Highness's condtict leaves no morning ?A. Sometimes at eight o'clock.—Q. For
ting up some looking-glasses. I can't precisely say . room for reliance upon his honour." . , what purpose ?A. To take his. clothes.—Q. Did you
how long : but I think it might be about a quarter df The other letter ran thus : •
ever see Mrs. Clarke at Gloucester Place 1 A. Once.
an hour. I think her carriage was at the door, but I . " Sir, Having received no answer to my former —O. During hew- long a period have you been in
am not certain.—Q. Did the Honourable Gentleman I letter, and as you have advised his. Royal Highness the habit of going to Gloucester Place-I—A. from
go out with her in her carriage at that time ? A. I to abandon me, I hive employedreyseleeitice ineput- the year 1804 to 1816.—Q. Were. you there fee
"did es far as the bar on the King's-road.—Q. Didlting on paper an account of all the circumstances quently ?A. Yes.—Q. On what occasion did you
the Plooourable Gentleman call on her that day af.. that have passed between his. Royal Highness and see Mrs. Clarke I—A. On taking her a favourite dee
terwards ?A. I think I did.—Q. At what time did he ! me—.and I have besides 50 or-60 of his letters to me, of the Duke's for her to see.---=Q Was the Duke then
call on her in his carriage ?A. I cannot exactly say, j all of which I have promised to deliver on 'Tuesday., in Gloucester Place ? -A. No.—Q. Are you sure you
but I think it was about three o'clock. I had taken , next, to Gentlemen, not publishers, but persons who' never • saw Mrs. Clarke except once ?. A. Never et
a long walk in the morning, and therefore I cannot i are just as obstinate as the Duke himself ; and if his Gloucester Place.—Q. Were you ever told by t!e•
say positively as to the time ; but when I recollect the i Royal Highness refuses to comply, I must of course Duke or Mrs. Clarke, to carry a mite to get changed'
places where I had been, I think it must have been I. relieve iny wants by an appeal to others, who will 'A. Never.--Q. Never ?A. NeVer •I Am certael.--•
-three o'clock.—Q. Did you see her• when you called ' give me that which the Duke will not. Remember, Q. Why did you say no nerevay, east, you vlite,i
in your carriage ?—A. Yes, I think she was upstairs, Ihe has it all-now in his own power, and may act as Gloucester Place ?A. .Ilecaosololbse was ordered,
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one

'via-vane doin to Me.—Q: How Ion; •did you stay
the second time? A. I cannot be precise; but I think
about half au hour.--Q. Then you saw her a third
time, on the evening of that ay> A. 'sail/hit:4s I'l
before stated, for a very.'short nine indeed.-9. Did
Mu call on .her upon the Monday? A. I dt4L-4
rs. Claris* was not at home then ? A. She its not.
--Q. Did you see her at all on Nondayl,,,A.,l•was
coming awayi:after for her nearly ilia hours,
When slie came in, atter driving about tov.m,--Q. Did
you stay any time? A. No; I went away in a few
minntes.---Q. I wish to ask the Honourable Gentle-
man whether on .the Tuesday when he saw her, he ,
hail any conversation with her on the subject of these
charges?. A. • I really don't recollect that I had then
earrpointedeoriversation with her at all.—Q. Whe-
ther did Ms. Clarke first speak to the Honourable
Meinber, on. the subject of these charges, or he first
to her ? A. I believe, in the first instance I asked her
some questions.—. Does the Honourable Gentle-
man
• recollect the Person from whom he first re-,
.ceived his information on this subject ? A. 'Tis to-
tally impassible to say from whom. It would be
proper to name .them if I even did recollect.--Q. I
*ish ' he

hapleases,,but it will be of my power, after
Tuesday next,to resat dims papers, as they will then
Oe Out of my possession." . r.
lit..oe Atiorney-General to Mr. Aclani—AreJ.
I the twolettersaow,pnodaced those alluded- to in the'
lexamiliatioo of-Mrs. Clarke on Wednesday night ?—,
A. I am confident they,unts; be; for I never received
F any others from her, except a very short note of -a
few lines, . Did you communicate those, letters.
ip3 hi; R Pleghness the Duke-oflork ?. A. .L
Rid.. you communicate akjetters.thera-
selves, or their cottons I A. The letters themielves.
Q:.-Afton you shewed them to his Royal Highness,
did he betray the slightest apprehension of any thing
he had done in -private that she could communicate?
the slightest.—Q., Does the Honourable
Xeentleman remember his Royal Highness naming
' any thing that could be published for which he had
any cause of apprehension ? A. I am not now sen-
sible of the precise words used by his Royal Highness, I
but I am confident he said nothing that could betray
the' slightest apprehension.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL then moved,
• Mr. Pugh might be called in ; and stated, that
of Mrs.

and 110 other dare.—Q. Po you,. isitiloisr own know-
lidge,_.ass.'nt no other servant of' the 1:::011ke.'s ever ft-
tilted Gloucester Place ? A.
.I 3311U0 one 0•1
ever talat.a letter there ? A. None.-,,Q. Bum cagY
Men seriants • were there at GloncesterPlate ? • A.
gertain,-ttQ, As near ss.youran..guessl. ..3.i
believe two in livery, and one •out of
w,as,he out of livery ? A. ntitler.-4L. Was that!
Alan cook ? A. Ido uot know.-.-Q . How Often `.'fo.;
you carried letters there ?A. Very seldom.--1- 1., •
04:1 other ever carry letters there from the .i;ukc
A. None other but myelt—Q. Did you ever c:17•
ry letters there • from the Horse Guards ? A. Yei•
7.Q. Many ? A. No.,Q. Did you Aever see Mrs.
Clarke at Gloucester Place, except °lice ? A. Dili?'
I once..—Q. Then to whom.did you give these letters?
A. To the housekeeper. -:.Q. Whatis her name ?
Taylor, I believe.--Q. at is the butler's name ?
A. There were two. Pearse Was the name of one of
them. Ido not know that of the other.—Q. Did you
ever see Mrs. Clarke except that once at Gloucester-
Place A. Yes, T met her twice, by accident, op-
posite Somerset Horse.- -Q.. Had you any convers.i.
tion with any person before you came in bete
ternin) the eviden( which - - were to give ?—A.

_ to ask"the I-kJ:towable Gentleman7hether re-
ceived any inforzytation from a Mr. Finnerty ? A. I
never received any information from him on, the sub-
:}ect in my life. Within there few days, Mr. Finnertp
said something to• me respecting Dr. Thynne. I. do
think it necessary to say, that shortly alter Major nti-
gan's Pamphlet came out, and seeing it held obt there

that _
the object his testimony was to prove' that
Clarke had on one occasion represented herself as a
widow, and had afterwards said she was a married
woman.
Mr. ADAM again rose,, and, in answer to some
question which escaped our notice, expressed some
surprise how any lioa. Member could suppose from

,ce you
Yes, the Duke asked me if I had ever jot a n°:e
changed for Mrs. Clarke.--Q With any one els. 2
A. Yes, Mr. Adam asked me the same qktestion
QL. With any one else ? A. Yes ! With Mr. Wl.'
kinson and Mr. 1.0wt0n..49.Wh0 is Mr. Wain-
son A. A G:;derraan in Mr. Loar;o,!,

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