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London, England, 1831-09-10 00:00:00

SPIRIT 07 THIS Der's ✓OURNALS

TIMES.—In an affair of peat delicacy, to which we
have &heady alluded, our wish would be, Wee might be per.
mitred, to put the public in possession of the whole truth,
and then let the matter drop, for we know that protracted
discussions are apt to excite resentments which did not at
first exist. It was impondble that the absence of the
Duchess of Kent, and of the Princess Victoria, her daughter,
from the Coronation, should have escaped notice: we there.
fore stated what the fact would be, and assigned some causes
for it. We hope now to dose the amount in a manner which
may 'unreal rising animosities. We have received two yar-
dmen( the Wait, and both, if we look to the quarters from
which they come, entitled to the highest consideration. The
first says, Her Rol Highness the Duchess d Kent
wrote to the Duke of Norfolk, ae Hereditary Rail Marsha,
to knew how she was to go to the Abbey herself, and what
arrangement had been made for the Princess Vittoria." The
answer was, " That his Majesty badsiguiled his pleasure
that her Royal Highness should attend in her tilde as a
dowager Princess and Peeress, and that the Princess
Victoria would go under the are of the Lands/adoe
and the Princess Augusta, and be attended by the
Duchess of Nordiumbieland la the Royal pew." (A
very proper arrangemeat, we have no doubt the country
will think; but of remark more hereafter.) " This answer
being received, so far was bee Royal Highness ham de.
' dining attendance, that she ordered her robes, and it was
understood by all the Royal Family that she would be
there. The Kin never doubting but that the Duchess
would be at the coronation, ordered a letter to be written to
her to know whom she would name to carry her coronet t to
this no answer was received. After waiting acmes time, his
Majesty ordered another letter to be written in his own
name, and to this an answer did come from Sr John Conroy,
apakieg of her attendance as uncertain, but saying that if
she did-attend, sbe would have her coronet borne by Lord
Meepak." Our other amount agrees in the cider facts with the
pressam 6 bet adds, " Her Royal Highness then wrote to
expose ha ready compliance" (with the arrangement made'
as se the places selected for herself and her daughter) "and
bee desks to be present at the ceremony, and to mark her
dutiful regard to his Majesty; but it was afterwards cond.
dared as inexpedient to interrupt the benefit which the Prim.
ass Victoria's health was receiving by her residence mar
the am; aid upon this ground, and alio upon that of the
capers which would attend the Duchess of Kent's leaving
the Isle of Wight, and neerning all her establishment to
town, so as to appear in stain at the coronation, his Ma-
jesty was pleased, in the most gracious and in the kindest
manner, to dispense with the attendance of the
Duchess of Kent, and the Princess her daughter."
—Upon these two accounts we may observe, that the
latter takes no notice of the delay in mewenog the letters
written by his Melee y's direction; and the former omits
all mention of the King's graciously dispensing with the
attendance of the illustrious personages at the coronation.—
It may seem singular that the Duchess should first apply
to know the place assigned to bagel( and the Princess, and
after these were known, decline attendance, if there were no I
dusalkfactioo. But perhaps some cause for alarm might
have swag up on the more aher daughter's health. The
expense was no greater after the widish about places was
answered than before. However, His Majesty a acqui-
escence in the reasons alleged for absence way save to
satisfy the objections of every ether person. The claims of
an be kess presumptive are nut recognised, so far as we know,
in any peat uf the Constitution; and w consolidate any
pretensions of this hypothetical nature into en opposition to
dte Majesty, as it would be madness, we feel very well
convinced cannot be contemplated by Her Royal Highness.
TIM liS —We have to minim a topic of peculiar int..
red so connected with the Coronation, and exhibiting the
just sod constitutional views which the King entertains of
als exalted ofiL.e. His Majesty is understood to have been
highly seutented with the day, as we are sure his subjects
were hapey in his public performance of ceremowes
incident to the occasion. But at the dinner by which
the comuumbil was succeeded, the King gave as a'
mast, in his frank and ow English manner, "The
land we live ni I'—and then added, that " the
day bad Weeded him satisfaction ; but that be did not
at all ogres with those .ho bad considered the csm.
many as indispensable, tor that the compact between the
pewee and pe .plc was as binding on his wind Wine; that

ER AL D.—When Jr. (now Lord) Brougham pre.
sensed In the House of Co:nmons the petition of 'be Jurors
of London, praying for an efficient reformation of the Cri.
minal Code, with a view to the abolition of capital pubisit.
meets for all crimes against property, he give it 11i4 tiecitiM
and unqualified approbation and support. Ile .aw then
nothing in it to cause him to read a lecture to Ju ors
on the violation of their oaths, but a xreat deal to mike
their opinion on the necessity of a revision of the Ltw
i worthy the serious attention of the Legislature. Is it
possible that the air of the House of Inds can have
so improved the acuteness of his faculties as to enable
hint to perceive blemishes in that petition which he was
incapable of perceiving ten months ago? We know
there are many memorable instances of the siraolpf changes
which can be brought upon the moral perceptior.s and opi-
nions of men by the influence of an aristocratic atmosphcre:
but, as it is impossible to believe that the great but Beet of
Lord Brougham can be swayed by the circumstances which
enslave inferior minds, we must content ourselves with
stating the fact which we have above alluded to, without pre-
tending to divine the cause. Certain it is that on the 19th
of November last Lard Brougham presented to the House of
Cammons a petition signed by the same parties, and clothed
in precisely the same language, as that which his Royal
Highness the Duke of Sasses has, with an unostentatious
siacerity of manner which does him the greatest credit,
presented to the House of Peers. On that occasion Lord
Brougham introduced the gutsiest by saying he had a pe-
tition to present which he felt greatly honoured by being
Intrusted with, an.l to which he begged the particular at.
tendon of the House. He described the petition as one
" very ably and clearly expressed ;" and having stated
the prayer of the petition, and informed his hearers of the
class of persons by whom It was signed, and who had
practical experience of the inefficacy of sanguinary laws,
be proceeded to say "the petition was worthy the attention
of the house on account of the reasons it urged,but more espe-
cially on account of the /Mihail, elks peatiolwrs ; for who
were so competent to speak of the scruples of Juries as they
who had felt those scruples ? " Lewd Brougham having con-
cluded, Mr. Ward, then one of the members for the City,
rose and bore testimony to the respectability of the petition.
ors t after whom Sir Thomas (then Mr.) Haman got up,
and emphatically declared that this was one of the most im.
portant petitions that had ever been presented to that home ;
and that deserved the serious attention otevery hon. mem-
ber. He added, what we shall give in his own words--
" The House will now ere that it is fact that Jurors arc not
infrequently placed In the miserable and painful dilemma
of 'chubs to declare the act, as the oath they have taken
requires them to do, or consenting to administer a law which
they believe to be cruel and unrighteous. I know it has
been stated by authority, which, though high, is not very
competent to judge of the matter, that Juries do not feel
any scruple to administer the law ; but the house now has
the most competent authority In ometradietion to ghat
stagement."

---CIiiiONICLR.-11se Grant to the Kildare•street
Society formed last night the subject of a lengthened dis-
cussion In eke Huse of Onemosaa. Mr. Stanley,in stating
the Isseibee of Govesmailiii with respect to the appropria-
tion et Isar, Or Ideation In Ireland (the money
tle pas of list sigist had been already upended),
leisess Mord and comprehensive views of the
ldijnit, nod NANA them with such ability. Of the
pad* es voila Se Kildare-street Society seta be dia.
ass was much in their system that ought
=6:d e;ltribde wheel books and mode of forming
teachers were aelles. The Kildare-street Society was

supported shoat exclusively by government grants, fur the
private subscripdoos did not =pont to MI. a year; but
this money was expanded In such a way, that though Ore.
sixths of the people of Inland are Catholics, in the
Prolostaot ProViness of Ulster, there were 84,890 actual
=lst of 134,000 pupils for all Ireland. The Ca.
ass known to be opposed to the reading of the B.ble
Wllksist sons or comment; and when it is coasidsted that
the both of the Old and New Testament, but more
of the Old, have a constant nferense to laws and
aattlltr of the Jews and other Oriental national, without a
Mimi* of which the most erroneous inferences might be
Iwo Gm there ate few rational protestant% who will
ssiscido is alleles with than. let any mere English
wade, who haugins that be can understand the Bible with-
in' foreign aid, tabs sp Lightfoot, for instance, and he will
dm Nebo, way of his opinions, with respect to poiitions
Walt be thassit Aar enough, will be modified by the light
'tibia that lestuad divine has thrown on them. Besides,
the Mistime milgies is to be found neither in the Old nor
LUG iksommt, but in both, and it requires no small share
dahlia mid slinky so determine in what manner the doc.rines
of the Moe isedided by the New Testament.
POSTo.sTho sow batch of Peers, with which the country
be. bon so keg disestesed, appeared the Gazette of last
night, sod without modes upon the invidious and palatial
Omsk of doodled twanoess, we may vesture to say that
eassesive an aression Is the British Peerage never before
Sea plum with so little Increase to the dignity, the wisdom,
the patrrakm, or the power of the House of Lords.—
We ask any man to cast his eye down the lisp,
N,
after reading the sasses of thew recruits to the
Asistoesocy of England, to say sf he can with respect
is any one of them tell in what really consists his chain,
popmg, hereditary, or territorial. to the honour now thrust
wpm him ? Some of the promotions are perhaps unobj c.
thou k; but the new Peen seem evidently to have been en-
listed by beat of drum. Much has ftom time to time been
said of the determination of tad Orey's Cabinet to
inundate the House of Lords with new Peers, in order
to ensure the success of their revolutionary measure. Of
this we confess we never had the least apprehension.
Not that our confidence arose from any doubt of the
Ministry being sulliciendy unscrupulous fur any thing;
it had a much more solid foundation. We did put

believe that any considerable number of Englishmen of the
upper classes of society could be found capable of accept.
log the Peerage on tbeonly toms upon winch his alsjecy s
present Moisten could offer it. The Gazelle of lost men
proves that we were not deceived. The range of doom
must have been narrow indeed when such is the selection.
The new Peers may fkirly, we think, be considered as tun.
'timing a new order of nubility ; and it seems but rea.-
*unable that, in order to prevent intruaion into their
ranks, a sepatate place should be allotted them in the
House of Lords. Let them be cafled by all means the
Reform or Revolutionary Peers, and let the Heralds'
College be forthwith in inlaid to devise some sileciad
blazonry ea the approptiate emblem of a dignity SJ hew.
And what does the llinistry expect to pin by Mo. nominal
increase to their strength in the Upper House of Parliament?
Character ? Intluence ? Authority ?, The conbdence of the
great body of the Heiden Peerage that they mean oil to
their Sovereign and their country ? 1 *ne opinion of
at large that the management of national allairN a .41 the
manufacture even of a new Constitution lot um °minty,
can be safely entrusted to their prudence and lidrltty ? but
we faebear, as we imagine all that can he la duck.—The
list of possible Peers is not infinite. and, if it he lea. nom *Mi-
nns, it is now plainly exhausted. The Goalie of teat ot„ht is
proof, se rather confession enough, that Millman hove uot
aeciaaary malarial in their power to Murals., the noose at
Lade by ea infusion 44 DlSUlbeti. Tlitif silks of toe lie-
volutionary Press will equally tail in toed attempts to inti-
midate the Peerage to a decision upon the Ite;Oro. liul ie-
ppaeggasaasstt their conscientious convic4ions by the thieat
dsoioutkviolence. This threat is Midi more 11111.1! to M-
amie the strenith oldie resisting than oldie concek Lig peril!
in the Howe Lads. Every man of ordinary hem mi.t
good mile whit doubts die abstract excellence .1 tit. sheatastre
will certainly resist it, so lung as ii is ..c.canspan.e.c. toy the

HOUSE OF 14-11STSEPT. 9.
1114111111 BILL.
The Earl of SUFFIELD expensed a with to bring on a
discussion on the Game Bill on Tuesday next.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, the Bankruptcy
Bill stood for second reading on Tuesday, but to act:ammo.
date the noble earl he should not object to postpone it.
Alter a short conversation between the Earl of Went-tor-
, land, Lord &Meld, and the Duke of Richmond, the ord. r
for the second read ng of the Game Bill was discharged, and
Axed for Tuesday.
The LORD CHANCELLOR also fixed the second read
in of the Bankruptcy Courts Bill for Thurular.
The Marquis of Li PNDO DER RY considered it twee'
sary to make a short statement to the haute, in Cormquen.: •
of what passed on a former night. Upon the discussion re-
lating to the state of Portugal, the noble marquis read a
letter, which he bad received from (e feral Sir John Camp-
bell, charging Mr. Hopner, the British Comm' at Lisbon,
with improper conduct. On that occasion the noble marquit
met with something like censure from a noble duke ( /Itch -
mond), who complained that the attention of the house was
improperly called to anonymous letters Tete noble nrarquit
undertook at the time to lodge the letter with the seeraory
for foreign Maks, and enable his Maj sty's Governmert to
ascertain the accuracy of the statement. He ( Lord London-
derry) had since seen General Sir Itisn Campbell. soil
that °Meer was ready to certify the truth of the eta:cm:n:4
in the letter, at the bar of the hors:, rein any way his 311-
sooty's Government might point out. The noble martiit'A
add he was the last person to charge any public functionary
with breach of duty, and he certainly should not have
brought the subject forward if he had not belieted the sub.
stance of the letter was known to hit 31.tjesty's minister..
The Duke of RICHMOND said, an anonymous pam-
phlet had been published on the subject to which the nab:e
marquis alluded, and he thought at the time, that it ws. rt.
discreet in the noble marquis to introduce a letter of the tit .
scription ; he had never charged the noble marquis with a
desire to act improperly.
Tne Ileum then, so far public business was concerned,
adjourned ; but the Lord Chancellor ordered coutowl to be
ailed to the bar, and continued hearing appeals to a late
hour.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. BLACKNEY presented a petition from Carlow, f
the repeal of the Union.
Captain GORDON presented a petition from the Pres.
bytery of Neweastle-upon.Tyne, spinet any further grant
to the College of Maynooth.
On the gamed= that the petition be printed,
The SPEAKER declared that the Num had it, and the
motion was nved.
Mr. ELLIOTT moved for a new writ foe the election of
a member far Derbyshire, in the room of Lord George C.-
vendieh, crested an Earl of the United Kingdom ; and an ir
writ far Fafarshire, in the room of the Han. William &hole,
creased a Baron of the United Kingdom,
Mr. LAMBERT presented& petition from Enninorthv,
in the minty of Wexford, praying for disarming the Vv..
many; and a similar petition from the relatives of the
sons slain at Newtownbarm. The hon gentkmett sup.
potted the prayer of the petition. Since the smeestere at
Newtownbarry the Yeomanry in that pan of eh. country
are called the bloody-guard of the church ; it am utterly
impossible that the country could remain tranquil shale rush
a force was allowed to exist.
Mr. YOUNG said, if the Yeomanry were di.u.ntd, it
would be impossible to preserve the Won and the esta.
libelled Chords in Ireland.

Mr. O'CONNELL said, It he wished fur the repeat of
the Union by force, be would be glad to see the tiovcrua-
wet support the Yeomanry. as they Were exciting an
sistible spirit of discontent in Ireland, which nothing could
allay but the restoration of their native legit! lure.
Mr. H. GRATTAN said, the yeomanry war a party
force, and the cause of many murders. They could give no
support to Government, as they were opposed by all the peo-
ple. If Gownsman would throw itself into the aruipi of
people, they would have nothing to fear rum the you.
many t but if they would support the yeomanry a,ainst
the people, they must fall. (Dear, bear.)
Sr.'. M. DOYLE recommended the Government to
I form a commission of gentl men, without one It islinsan, And
laced It to Ireland to report on the yeomanry force, wid to w is
confident that they would report that the yeomanry was not
a force fit for Ireland In its present state.
Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that he should move a
call of the Bolus on Monday week.
Mr. & RICE brought up she report of the Couttnittee
of Ways and Means, which was agreed to.
Mr. HUMS hoped the ash accounts of the nation would
in future be kept In a more intelligible manner than here.
Wars

COROSAT tom.
Mr. B. WALL said, accommodatioa had been provided
ice only 410 members of the House of Commons, aid me-
dale had been sent to 430. He thought they ought not to
be sent to more than 410, or that they ought to be win to all
the nimbus of the house. He hoped the noble lord could
explain the transaction.
Lord ALTHORP mid, he was wholly incapable of giv.
ing any information on the important subject. (A laugh.)
Mr. 8. RICE the mien of the distribution or
dela was giving them at the time of the coronation, which,
of course, confined the distribution to those who were pre.
sent. The teems of tending more than 410 on the prevent
coronation was, that memo members of the house atter.diel
in another capac as Aimee theta Crown.
Mr. HUME mid, the mode for members
going to the Abbey were but there were none
made set getting away, and be was confined till *ix oVock
before his carriage could come to him. (A laugh.)
Mr. LAMB repotted the delay, which proceeded from
the great number of carriages present, and some oirfureseen
obstruction arising from the actillery.

CoIIIMUTTZIC OF SUPPLY.
On the motion of Mr. S. RICE, the House resolvtd into
a Conaesium of Supply.
Mr. RICE mowed, that 27.3331. be panted for aim.
inel prosecutions in Ireland to the Ist of January last.—
Agreed to.
The neat grant was, 40,0001. to be issued by Lord Lieu-
tenant in support of schools in Ireland.
Mr. STAN LEY said, the amount of the grant was in-
significant compared whit the overwhelming imponacee of
the aubjeetet education in Ireland, which was ma.: titan any
other calculated to cache patty feeling and religious ani-
mosity in Ireland. The views of Govenintent, towever,
were those that had been recommended by every Ortmesis-
slim and every Committee that had tenoned on Winston in
Ireland—that was, that children of all penitential, should be
educated together, that; all religious ur political phjudices
might be removed or softened by early association. and fel-
lowship. Ttte Government, unfortunately as he coo-
caved, after the report of a commission, in the year
decided on making their grant for edam ion in
Ireland to a society already established, and which
after that grant took premises in litklare.steett, a d
assumed the name of the Kildare-target Society. A
leading principle of this society was that the &Atmore*,
withuu note ur comment, Maenad be read by ail the
eldidren able to read. This appeared vary pityudbk to Preo.
cements, but nothing could more effectually seclude es 110.
lies OGOI the bore& of issuuttien, so it woo a tenet of the
...4thohe Ch rch. that comment, by eibutob suthorny. o.i.
lecesiary to rig itly uodastand she striper's. Iffre 'Arta
um; iheeedied MOO eight schools and 411 sebelato I.
to ifirii schools and 132,b7S scholars. lo she year IWO. It
wes uis duty, however, as the rsprrisrutstoir W ith bob, (k.
verunits.t. to toqUit. whether this cdireadori leio le .4.
orally diffusei inuao,st tat: Irea.l 1' e

number of Ca.b.dic children were stated to be 'goal to the
number of Protestant children. The number of Pretense's
to Catholics in Ireland was at least six to ones that system
of education, therefore, could not be said to work well for
the people of Ireland, which educated no more Catholics
than Protestsnts. It was evident from the fact that
two-thirds of the schools were in Protestant Ulster. that
the schools were not equally efficacious in diffusing
elitration amongst the Catholics. This, he thought.l
proceeded from • fundamental error in the constitution
if the Society. Its first rule was the reading the scriptures
without Dote or comment, and the Catholic clergy stated
that was a rule which they could not conscientiously recom-
mend to their flocks. Catholics did go to the schools, but
it was on the understanding that a discretion should be exer-
cised by the master as to the portions of scripture allowed to
be read. Dr. D-vle, iu the most energetic manner. declared
Nig abhorrerce of the imputation that the Catholic clergy
wished to esehole a knowledge of the scriptures from their
Socks. The Kildare-street Society not only insisted on the
reading the scriptures without note or comment, but also
prohibited any other rtligiona instruction ; and by these
t des made it impossible for their plan of education to sue.
crud in Ireland. Government was anxious to get rid of a
systent which afforded religious instruction to neither Ca.
holic nor Protestant, and which almost wholly excluded Ca.
Oldies. The supporters of the plan said, " Support us by
Parliamentary grants, and we will cause the Catholics to
receive our education in defiance of their priests." They
might, perhaps, enforce education ; but would they have
done well when they had given education, and extin-
guished charity (Loud erica of hear. hear.) His object
would be, not to diminish, but to direct the influence of
he Catholic priesthood, which he conscientiously believed
for once that it was excited against the Government, was
ten times excited in its support.—(Hear' hear.) His ob-
ject was to put the Catholic priesthood, and through them
the whole Catholic people, in amicable relation to the Go-
vernment.—(Hear, hear.) The best report of the Kildare-
street Society led him to fear that it must be considered a
party and proselyting society. The Right Honourable
Gentleman read an extract from the report, which asked,
`• were they to break down the goodly frame of their road.
tution, to make way for the fancied iinprovementa of Ca.
tholics and their supporters?" He thought when their
plan excluded the great body of the people from instruc-
tion, it should be either broken down, or greatly its.
proved.—( Hear, hear.) Did the Honourable Gentleman
opposite (Captain Ger 'on), who so strongly supported
the Kildare-street Society, think they were benefiting the
Protestant religion in Ireland ? (Hear.) There were
in the last year 200 teachers appointed to their schools
by the society. 4d of which only were Catholic.—(llear.)
'rite right Mm gentleman said he knew that it was the
'milled endeavour of each party, both Catholic and Pro-
testant, to obtain an exclusive grant for their own purpose;
but he would must decidedly oppose any such exclusive
eraot—(Hear, hear, in a cheering accent.) If any thing ex-
clusive was introduced into the system. he considered they
would be establishing negative effects, and that it would he
kn eking down with one hand what they had raised with
tint other. He had to ask the house for 90,00111. fur the
Kildare-street Society and the Association, and to have the
direction reposed in the hands of the Government, re
that the Society of Private Benefactions might act as suxi-
lsaty s ante to Government. It was their intention, is
the appropriation of the motel, to abide by the suggestion
of the late Secretary ; to provide teacher for both classes
of communions ; that they should be taught in common
in all the elementary principles of general literature,
together, by teachers to be approved of by a commission
composed of Catholics and Protestants in equal numbers.
He did not ore it was at all practicable to effect a general
system of religious education, and on that account he would
propose that two days in the week should be devoted to
religious instruction, when the children of the two creeds
should teeth,' their religious education apart. He would
have preferred a bard of unpaid Commissioners, if they
c. uld be procured, but that he considered of minor import.
ance if they .uceee..ed in carrying into effect the plan, and
secu ing cdueutiiia to the people of Ireland. The right hon.
lot oilier went into a shun inquiry as to the way that the
moray had hitherto been expended in the three principal de-
partments ; the model school, the training department, and
the cheap book circulation, which he said, on balancing
the outlay and income, bad only east the country three
thousand pounds per annum. It was on this view of the
subject that he determined in future to submit the estimates
to Parliament; and although he now came forward as with
an estimate, the fact was, that like most other Irish esti-
mates, the sum had been already expended; but he hoped
tore house would not think that they had acted erroneously
in doing so, foe if they had not, the machinery must other-
wise have een at a stand-till, and the institution have come
.o a premature death. Having made the proposition fur the
guverunlent direction being admitted, be had considered
himself bound at greater length to lay open his views on the
question, and he had done so to the best of his endeavour,
without any intention or prejudice towards the feelings of the
most zealous Catholic, or the most zealous Protestant, and
be hoped that in the discussion that Dotal 0
follow, bon. members would abstain from any language
feting or exciting in the debate. (Hear, hear.) Then this
remained nothing for him to do more but to second the me.
lion. (The right hon. member was loudly cheered by the
an. Irish members.)
Mr. NORTH had been long a supporter of the Indite.
riod, and be approved of the original regulations OD which
I had been establithesL The hon. member read extracts
front reports, upon which he commented, and gave a sue.
tract account of the school. He approved of the views of
the right. hon. member, that no distinction of creed should
fe observed in the admission, and that no particular cate-
chism or form of prayer should be adopted for the use of the
school, and that it secured the Scriptures to be read with-
out commentary. He would vindicate the Kildare-street
society from any attempt at proselytism. The objection,
that the Scriptures had at all been introduced into the school
was what the Catholics had framed their principal charges
on. He disapproved of a commiortion being appointed, as tie
thought that they might have an interest in deceiving Go
vernment by concealing the real facts, and representing that
the Institution was going on well. He would have opposed
any grant if he had not had the assurance that each party
e a to be se cured their fair portion of it, and it the Scriptures
had been prevented from being introduced. He would never
support the Kildare-street society, if he had not been con.
g v.i.ced that it was for the benefit.
Mr. k. LEWIS approved of the general spirit of the
right hon. gentleman's suggestions, but be thought that reli-
gious education should be conducted OD one general system,
hie all to teach the tenets of the different communions without
ceinpari,on, or contrasting theme with the other. That he
thought was the only way that would knock down the par-
t loon, and make then who had been so long divided by reli-
gious opinion one people. This. be thought, could be mote
easily compkted, seeing that the Roman Catholic Emanci-
pation Rill bad removed the great political obstacle.

section bad been completely broken off. It wu hopeless to
devise any religions system which might meet with the con-
amens* of the Catholic fiery ; for by one of their resolu.
dons they declared that they could approve of such institu-
tions only in which they appointed the teachers, and chose
the books. He complained that the proposed Plan of allow.
log to the Society only such grants u Lord Lieutenant
=of. made the gentlemen of that institution thump-
ing manner. of the Lord Lieutenant. (Hear.)
Mr. BROW BLOW denied that the Society gave general
satisfaction in Ireland. Many had been the petition* Pre-
se=the Roman Catholics against it. He had himself
many petitions ftom populous parish., complsin-
rnit that they had to pay for en institution to which none of
the inhabitants would send their chililren. (Hear) Out
of the 500.000 educated in Ireland, only 58,000, or one-
tenth, Nuked instruction for what the honourable
member had been pleased to call a system of public edo.
cation. (Hear, hear.) It was incompatible with Catholic-
ism to teach the Scriptures unaccompanied by the
Episcopal comments ; and the honourable member,
by promoting that practice in the public semina-
ries, far from laying the foundation of Christian
harmony amongst the inhabitants, was sowing the
seeds of discord and mutual distrust. (Hear.) He (Mr.
Brownlow) considered the plan of the Secretary for Ireland
to be as perfect a one as, under the circumstances, it was
possible to frame. (Hear, hear.) He also approved of Its
machinery—of there being a Board of Commissioners to
• the

regulate public educatiiin. The Commasm,....
be paid, and resrnsibk public servants ; unpaid servants
would, sooner,' later, relax in their exertions. (Hear.)—..
The Commissioners should have the management. not only
of the (umla supplied by Parliament, but of those derived
from private sources, otherwise private patrons would spring
up, and the Commissioners would cease to have an exclusive
controuL

Mr. WYSE said, the Member for the University of
Dublin might disguise his system u be pleased, but it was
a proselytising system, debarring the Roman Catholic from
education, or forcing him to seek it in a foreign country.
The Hibernian Society pretended also to interfere with the
religious tenets of no sect ; yet the of that luting-
tion contained lists of young men, raZtaafter attending it,
had abjured the Catholic faith. and become, he would not
say Protestants, but individuals indifferent. The system of
instruction in the Kildare Institution was the same as in
the Hibernian. The Hon. Member wished the Catholics to
concede merely one point—the reading of the Testament
without comments, that was, he wished them merely to give
up Catholicism. The non.reading of the scriptures, unac-
companied by episcopal and traditionary comments, was a
fundamental dogma of the Catholic religion. There was a
great objection to the score of expense ; it had cost, since
its comparatively late establishment, no lees than 259.0001.
The Hon. Member then detailed a plan of education which
he had himself conceived. It was founded on a broader
bads than that of the Secretary for Ireland; but he ap-
proved of the Secretary's plan, which was a united system,
and would confer on Ireland the benefits which similar plans
of education had produced in Sweden, Wurtemburg, and
other countries.

Mr. SHIBL said the question was most Important, and
the proposal of Government most auspicious for Ireland ;
education, that ought to be a bond of union, had in that
country of anomalies been made a source of division. The
highest authorities who had examined the subject, had all
agreed that education, to be extensively beneficial, must
have the support of the Catholic clergy and laity. protestant
had united in the opinion, and a committee of that
had declared, that no system of education could sue.
aid is Ireland that war not free from suspicions—would
acer pretend that the Kildare-street society was not the
of auvicion to all the catholic,' of Ireland ? The
hon. member for Dundalk said in his evidence, that both the
catholic clergy and laity held the tenet, that the scrip-
tures were not to be read without note or comment. (Capt.
Gordon, " quite correct") The hon. gentleman, with a
peculiar candour, admitted the fact ; (hear) was then the
Kildare-street Society, that made reading the Scriptures
without note or comment its first rule, a society to educate
the Catholics of Ireland ?—(Hear, hear.) The Honourable
Gentleman here drew a vivid picture of the seal of the Ca-
tholic clergy, whose bishops had no diamonds in their
mitres, whose clergy were the companions and friends of
the poor, their instructors in life and consolers in death.—
On the part of that clergy and of that people he thanked the
Government for the impardality of their conduct in the pro-
rgrant, which would be repaid by the gratitude of
eTad
file.d SHAW was confident that the grant proposed by the
Right Hooourable Gentleman would be the most exclusive
that was ever made for education in Ireland. He law
it was the object of the Catholic Clergy to destroy the 136
dare-street Society, and after this grant they would GM
tainly succeed. No Protestant would assist in a system of
education of which reading the Scriptures did not hem a
pan. He did not meen to oppose the grant, but merely te
give his opinion.
Mr. S. RICE said the principles of education were hear,
thank Gon, for the first time laid down by Government la
a manner conformable to right reason and the feelings of the
people of Ireland. (Hear.) There was no exclusion of tw
ligious or scripture instruction, it only allowed it to be gives
with sincerity. It was stated that the Kildare.street
was calculated to give equal instruction to Protests=
Catholics ; but all testimony and experience proved the am.'
teary. The late Protestant Archbishop of Dublin had stated
in his evidence, that if he were a Roman Catholic, be would
feel it to be his duty to forbid the puffing the satsuma
without note or comment into the bands of children by lay
instructors. (Hear, hear.) The motion made by his right
honourable friend would glad the hearts of the people of
Ireland, and he was confident its success would be in pro-
portion to its benevolence. (Hear, hear.) This, however,
was not an act of favour, but of justice on the part of a Go-
vernment determined to be honest to a people long op.
pressed. (Hear.)
After a lengthened conversation. in which Capt. Gordon,
Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Brown, Mr. Bodkin, and others, took
part, the motion was agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and obtained
leave to sit again on Monday.
Mr. F. LEWIS brought up the report upon the London
Coal Bill.

LIF ROT considered is Inexpedient to abolish the
system of the Kildare Society, before another had been es-
tablished. It was a society in full operation, having 000
schools dependent upon itAnd bestowing education on nearly
1,11.000 children. But could there be a more enlightened and
liberal mode of din:Wades religious instruction than the
niece adopted by society—the simple reading, without
tote or comment, of the eerieurea, of the truth of which all
the sects, Protestants, end Dimenters, were equally
cui vinced ? The true teat of the soundness and liberality of
the btsteni, he (Mr. L.) considered to be the satisfaction
%inch it gave die large body of die Irish people.—(Hear.)
They cue Oct there to register the decisions of one
particular church, but to obey the general voice. He
denied that the While people were averse to sending
their children to schools where the scriptures were
read. The Roman Catholics formed half of the scholars
in the Kildare Society; they were also very numerous
in the Hibernisa and other establishments, where
reeding of the scriptures took place. He admitted that
Ayle was opposed to the system ; but Dr. Chal.
mars had approved of it; for be bad approved of the reading
of the divine writings, melded further information was not
excluded. Now' the Society did not exclude further in-
sit newt*, which might be offered by the parents. He de-
nied that the Secretary's plan of education 'mold be general,
the Presbyterians would base nothing to do with an educe-
tiqu in which religion was not taught. Until MI, no coat-
plaints, not even trom the Catholic Clergy, had been made
against the Kildare system. In that year a bull was sent to
irehend—an odd country to send bulls to—which forbade
the Testament in the schools. On this bull the Member for
Kerry mounted, and went through the clergy, inflecting the
minds against the Society. Since dies, he admitted, coat.
plaints had been heard of. But were they, he asked, to rest
their legislation on a bull, of on thewMa of the people ?
tie eoutendad, that a legislature, which would establish
a system in which all creeds would be taught, would be as
much to be condemned as an individual who would teach
different and conflicting creeds. He admitted and blamed
the connection which bad existed between the Kildarastreet
natio, and comma praelytising institutions; but that ono.

Colonel SIBTHORPE gave notice, that on Monday be
would bring under the attention of the house the conduct of
the Editor of the Mal newspaper, who had, be said,
grossly infringed the privileges of the house.
Adjourned at half.past two o'clock till Monday.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.

PRUSSIAN AND DUTCH PAPERS,
RECEIVED THIS DAY.
POLAND.

(From the Prussian State Gazette of Friday,
Sept. 2.)
The Silesian Gazette has the following article :
—lt is known that a counter-revolution has broken
out at Warsaw, the object of which was not at-
tained. Many persons were killed in it, especially
individuals who were inclined to surrender the city.
POLISH PROWTIEHS, AUGUST 27.—1 n conse-
quence of the interruption of the post, nothing
certain has for a long time become known respect-
ing the events in Warsaw. The following are the
particulars that have been learnt at the Russian
bead-quarters. The late members of the National
Government, Prince Csartoriski, Neimjowski,
Morawski, Barzykowski, and Joachim Letewel,
have resigned their office to the deputies of the
Diet; and henceforth a president, with dictatorial
authority. is to be the sole bead of the Govern-
ment. General Kukowicki is appointed Presi-
dent ; Chrzavowski is Military Governor of War-
saw : Skrzynecki is wholly put aside, and has
no command whatever. The President, in addition
to the powers hitherto combined with that dignity,
has also the right—
ist. To appoint and to remove the Commander-
in-Chief of the Army. (For the present Dem-
binski commands the army.)
Sid. To appoint a deputy to perform his own func-
tions, for which office Niemojowski is intended.
3d. With the assent of the Chambers to declare
war, and conclude peace.
4th. To appoint six Ministers, one of whom is to
countersign all his orders.
At present it is not known who will be the Mi-

maters ; among others, Count Wielopolski is
spoken of for foreign affairs. The President has
given orders to close the patriotic clubs ; whoever
shall henceforth take part in them shall be treated
as a rebel.

An order of the day of the 7th speaks of the
enormities committed in Warsaw, in the preceding
week ; according to a mode which has been often
employed in all revolutions, it is alleged that these
excesses were instigated by enemies of•the coun-
try, and adherents of the Russians, in order to
chew the cause of Poland in an odious and suspi-
cious light, &c. It is, however, avowed that inno-
cent persons, and individuals legally ac-
, quitted, were executed; women and children
murdered, and, contrary to all laws of war
and of nations, prisoners of war massacred.
A commission, of which General Rycicloki is pre-
sident, is to discover and punish the guilty. Among
the persons murdered are the widow and daughter
of General Haucke, who was killed in the night
of the 29th Nov. The two Chambers of the Diet
are to deliberate in one assembly, till the deliver-
ance of the capital. Whoever ventures to speak
of capitulation, shall be considered as a traitor to
the country. It is said that there is already great
scarcity in Warsaw, so that provisions are three of
four times as dear as usual.

From the Russian head-quarters, which was on
the 22d at Nadarsyn, we have the following account
of that date :—Nothing of importance has occurred
in the army. Oa the 19th the Field Marshal went
out to reconnoitre, hut it was evening before the
troops arrived within half a German mile (two-and-
a-balf English) of Warsaw, and no action took
place. Yesterday evening the greater part of the
Polish army was drawn up outside of the entrench-
ments, but did not attempt any thing. It Cs said
that 10,000 or 12,000 men have been detached
against General Rosen, who, however, has orders
to avoid an engagement with his main force, but
to leave his posts as near as possible to the enemy.
An attempt has been made to burn the bridge of
boats at Praga, but it failed; it was observed, and
the fire soon extinguished. General Rudiger is
still in the environs of Radom : a Polish detach-
ment is opposed -to him, and yesterday it was
thought there was a cannonade in that direction.
General Kreutz will arrive here on the 28th. By
the addition of his corps, and that of Rudiger, the
army will be increased 25 or 30,000 infantry, and
it is believed that their junction will be the signal
for the termination of the contest.

BlititLlN, Sept. 1.-oFnciAL.—ln our Ordi-
nance of the 23d of last month, respecting the
measures to be adopted on the appearance of the
Cholera in Berlin, it is stated that as soon as it is
certain that the Cholera was broken out, express
notice of it shall be given by us. According to a
report delivered on mature enquiry, by six
physicians, to which a medical commission
appointed by us has declared its assent. An indi-
vidual died here of Asiatic cholera : besides this
several cases have occurred in the city since yes-
terday, which are indeed not yet proved to be the
Asiatic cholera; but according to the accounts that
have been received, may be suspected to be that
disorder.

Under these circumstances, prudence requires
that all the measures prescribed in the above ordi-
nance be carried into effect. Giving this notice,
we expect both from the authorities whom it con-
cerns, and from the other citizens, the more ready
co-operation in the execution of the above mea-
sures, by which alone it may perhaps be possible
to prevent the propagation of the disorder.
BERLIN, SZTT._2.-07FICIAL NOTIEZ.—As

the Asiatic cholera has already appeared hers, and
at several parts of the province of Pomerania and
Brandenburg, on this side of the Oder, a military
cordon has been established, not only along the
Elbe, but from the frontiers of the kingdom of
Saxony, to that of Hanover.
Another notice details the precautions to be ob-
served in transmtiting letter, &c. by the post.—
Prussia.; State Gazette, Sept. 3.°
On the 24th, her Royal Highness the Crown
Princess of Sweden and Norway, was deli-
vered of a Prince, at Drothringsbelm, who
is to be christened by the names of Nicholas Au-
gustus, and to have the title of Duke of Dalecarlia.
ANSTULDAII, Sept. 6.—Act. debt 2j per cent. 37 37V.
Voisatary Loan, irBl3; Amore Synd. 41, 414 6Y j; 4
do. 3j, 48 481.—Detele Papers, Sept. 7.
The Augsburg/ Gazette has a letter of the
21st from Pesth, containing details on the insurrec-
tion of the peasantry in Hungary. The insurrec-
tion in the county of Zemplin has nearly been put
down, after many acts of cruelty had been com-
mitted. The armed force was obliged to fire upon
the peasants in different places,and on one occasion
16 were killed. Similar disturbances now prevail
in other parts of Hungary, especially in the county
of Neograde, where horrid scenes have been
acted. The cholera now rages with great vio-
lence throughout nearly all Hungary, which is
partly to be ascribed to the immoderate eating of
unripe fruit. At Debreczin, it appears that scarcely
any of those attacked by the disease recover. The
same paper gives a letter of August 17, from the
frontiers of Poland (the writer of which, however,
was not yet acquainted with the massacre and
change of Government at Warsaw), which states
that according to intelligence from the Russian
head-quarters, much hope was entertained of a pa-
cific settlement of the Polish *Saks, which would
be followed by a Congress'sttid ti general reduction
of the European armies to the peace establishment.
According to the Buda Gazette, the cholera
has broken out in Hungary in 560 towns and vil-
lages, and 44,397 cases have occurred.
The Vienna Court Gazette mentions that six
patients, whose cases presented suspicious symp-
toms, had not the Oriental but the European cho-
lera, and that there was every hope of their reco-
very. The most benevolent measures have been
adopted at Vienna for the treatment of the sick
and the employment of the healthy, in case the
cholera should reach that city.
• This Gurus contains no news whatever horn Poland.
It is the first number that is stamped with the words &ailed*
Stempel, or stamp of the board of health.
THE INSURRECTION AT LISBON.

By H. M. packet Steamer, which arrived here
on Wednesday evening, we have received advice.
from Lisbon to the 28th ult. stating that on the
night of the 21st, about 400 men of the 2nd regi-
ment of infantry having seized the regimental co-
lours and fired on a part of the same regiment
which refused to join them, marched through the
streets of the city to the square called Rocio, sing-
ing the Constitutional Hymn and proclaiming
Donna Maria. Being soon attacked by the
Royalist forces, • desperate contest ensued in

Constitutionalists killed s Mignelites Med 1-
4th Regiment of Foot .. 39 Militia
Civilians .. ....
_ .

7tb cavalry
Polies cavalry . •
Ditto foot

44 44
Pei onon—about SOO.
Olken killed-1%0 Major of pale* cavalry.
Captain Vial:tins, Otb foot.
Conde de St. Mardian). sou 0 Condo do
Canweda, badly wounded (since dead).

Tut an Accoutyr.—On Sunday night, the 21st
instant, about nine or half past nine o'clock, a
commotion took place among the troops of the 4th
regiment of infantry : they sallied forth, about 600
strong, singing the constitutional hymn and pro-
claiming Donna Maria Queen of Portugal. They
expected to increase as they continued their march
to other barracks, especially by the addition of
the 13th and 16th infantry, as well as of a
regiment of cavalry, all of whom, it is said,
had expressed their intention of joining
them. Instead of keeping together, however, in
a body, they formed into two divisions, and march-
ed off in different directions. Thus divided, and
meeting with unlooked-for opposition, they were
overpowered by numbers, separated, and cut off, as
it were, in detail. The number of men killed on
both sides is about thirty, and of wounded about
eighty, and between 200 and 300 of the insurgents
made prisoners. Among the officers killed on the
Government side are the Major of the 16th regi-
ment of infantry, which was principally engaged,
and the Conde de S. Martinho. Among those of
the insurgents are the Major of the 4th and two
Captains. Several private persons got also killed
at the windows and in the streets.
PARIS PAPERS, RECPIVED THIS DAT.

La Tribune.—The whole discussion which hu
up to this moment taken place on the Peerage may
be thus analysed :—lt has been considered as con-
stituted in three manners ;

1. Hereditary. This is hostile to the country,
contrary, to the most sacred engagements, in oppo-
sition to reason, and branded before-hand in the
minds of the people as the last wreck of the
Restoration.

2. For life and dependent on the Crown,—
Thin is without independence or dignity; the instru-
ment of ambition, the reward of dynastic or minis-
terial servility ; a second hypothesis a thousand
times worse than the first.
3. Elective, or at most resting on upon popular
candidateshipi. This is merely a sewed Chamber
likely perhaps to posses more calm and fixed ideas,
and becoming useful as a second discussion, as a
check in fact over those laws which from unfore-
seen circumstances may have been voted without
sufficient consideration.

This lut hypothesis, which is the only one at all
in accordance with the progress of intellect, evi-
dendy proves that the peerage, all conceived by the
amateurs of the Charter of 1814, is for ever de-
' atro_yed.
FRANKFORT, Atm. 30.—A very considerable

which about forty men were killed and a much rise jn the funds both at Vienna and Berlin, 4,4
larger number wounded, and the insurgents
their being quoted on 'Change at Frankfort
being totally defeated were compelled to lay down
per Cent, higher than the day before. The in,.
their arms and go as prisoners on board the Don movement was principally in the Polish Ivan,
Juan, a line of-battle ship lying in the Tagus. It which affords ground for the presumption that
appears that a movement on a more extensive scale news has been received at Berlin of a satisfactory
was designed to have taken place on the following arrangement of the affairs of that country.
Wednesday, the anniversary of the revolt at A letter from Munich states that the Poles hare
Oporto, when the let regt. of cavalry with the 4th entered into a treaty with Russia. Poland is to
sod 16th infantry would also have declared for the form a distinct kingdom under the sovereignty of
Queen, but some bags of musket-balls having un- the Emperor Nicholas. She is to have an army, I
ibrionately been found near the barracks, the regi- vice-roy, and a government purely national. The
meat was suspected of a revolutionary design and Russian troops are not, under any circumstances,
was to have been disarmed on the following morn- to enter Poland. This letter adds that this intelli•
lag, which circumstance having become known genes appears to be authentic.
caused this premature attempt. The only officer Letters from the from the frontiers of Dalma.
implicated in this affair is a cadet, who, on being tia mention that on 24th July,a deputation from the
refused the colours by a superior officer, killed him town of Scutari arrived at the Turkish head-quar.
it the spot. So little dependence has Miguel on tars, to announce its submission. Mustapha Pacha,
the fidelity of the troops, that they are not allowed who vainly attempted to escape with his treasures
to quit the barracks, where they are daily visited through the territory of the Montenegrines, was
by the tyrant who converses familiarly with them, sdut up in the forte's.
sod appears exceedingly anxious to win their at- A letter from Berlin, given by the Auyshero
tachment. An order of the day has been issued Gazette, states that the number of victims by the
signed by the chief of the staff, thanking the troops late massacre at Warsaw, was 50 instead of 35.
for their loyalty and good discipline on the occa- The returns of the effective force of the army of
Moe. A Military Commission has been appointed, France, upon which the estimates of 1831 are
to try the offenders, and probably ere now, Lisbon founded, show that the infantry of the line consists
has witnessed another of those sanguinary scenes of 217,311 men, which, as there are 67 regiments,
which have so frequently disgraced that devoted gives 3,243 men for each regiment. The Light
citz. The inhabitants of Lisbon, except some rab- Infantry amounts to 50,484 men, divided into 21
ble, took no part in the affair. The soldier who regiments, making 2.404 men for each. The car.
broke doe n the door of the Commissary and seized bineers, cuirassiers, dragoons, lancers, chasseurs,
the colours, has been so fortunate as to escape, and and hussars, have upon an average from 1,000
is now in this town.— ('ornubian. to 1,050 men each. The Cavalry School it
SECOND ACCOUNT.—On Sunday night, the Saumer is stated at 711, and the Depot for
21st August, a little before ten o'clock, the neigh- Recruits 713. The total effective strength of the
bourhood of the Campo d'Ourique, where the bar- cavalry of the line is 54,046 men. The 11 regi.
racks are situated that contained the 4th regiment meats of artillery have 2416 men each, giving
of foot, was thrown into the greatest state of alarm 26,580 effective men of this corps ; and the aggro-
by a report that that regiment had declared them- gate amount of artillery men, pontoneers, working
selves in favour of Donna Maria 11. Their band men, and artillery train amount to a total of 34,120
struck up the Constitutional Hymn. They were men. The corps of engineers, consisting of three
opposed by the officers and some of the men, regiments of 2,500 men, the three companies of the
whom, kowever, they overcame, after a sharp waggon train attached to it, of rather more than
conflict, in which Captain Victorino and several 100 men each, and a company of 156 working
others of the Miguelite party were shot or bayo- men, make altogether a force of 8,151 men. The
netted. military equipages reckon 4529 men.
They then marched out, to the number of about
_The Races tel the Clumnuttle-Man yeatud.ay,
than
anythe
350, with only one commissioned officer at their
which have
tlewne;eiscennrjlis
season. numerously attended '
were Lut
head • they proceeded to the barracks of the mili-
tia oiSt. George, where, instead of being well re- 61,
by the presents of their Majesties, the Duke of Orleans, the
ke of Nemours, sod the Princesses ; and although in the
ceived, as they had' reason to expect, they were
eeeery sr of up_
as the day and
d showeru tf:fa rain,d
th rose
e
fired upon, and fired in retarn,killing and wounding
sing's prize or 6,900 fr. w won by M. Havalhaesy eh. b.
several. They then went to the barracks of the 16th cub on, 5 yes, carrying 563 hectogr. rode by Tom Hall,
bectogr. Lord Henry Boymtal h I Crui% &Tiro
regt. of foot,where they met ith a similar reception. beating M. Leconte 's en h Coetisstant,.s you, carrying 514
On their way through the streets their vivas to
Donna Maria and the Constitution were received logdero 5164yhes,ectogr.
563 do Bonbeciernefo.ndlis ch
de hva:l o
carrying teaus's eh h
n.
by the acclamations of the people, driving before Rublena, 5 yrs, dirtying 663 heetogr. and the Count de
them all the police guards they met with, and Narbonne's i•
anl6.Leda'•4jurs;:rti 499
hed
ri genTri The
Se King's
killing and wounding a great many, the police at Cra. rise
n aylvio, 6 . 1563 yheceogr. rode by Bout,
the time firing at every body who appeared at the beating N. ogeeLu,s sa. &mem 6 y es. ese eg.
windows. On their way to the Rocio-square they hector. M. Geetzusome. b. m. Dowime, b yes. ems. 648
were enthusiastically greeted, and great numbers
curg. 614 bectogr. and AL Durand ch. tn. Selina, 6 yea
hectogr. the Count do Cost/Banes b. h. FredL Alton, 4 yrs.
of people joined them. At three or four places 583
rode ,uO.
they were attacked by the police cavalry in ka bad mind ma•
m.b Ran, rZole
large bodies, whom they obliged to fly. In was withdrawn, The second beat was contested by Bylvlo
one of these attacks Major Oliviers, of the police and Dowinc only. Besidesnor
cavalry, was shot through the bowels (since dead.) latsa 5;r.. Locereets of (.2. these two races,
is rime round
there waa
..
mos' ur(l.: for
m.
By this time, however, the Government bad col- 10616 a. I.& by Bmt, and N. girer,br. m• as
lected a considerable force, and they were attacked tee items. which was won cleverly by the former. The
by the police (horse and foot), the 7th cavalry, and Race foe the Duke of Orleans Prise win eats lan as
16th infantry ; making a force of upwards of SsaaT "1'-
2,000 strong. In this situation the Constitu
tionalists formed a square and fought with deter-
mined bravery. The conflict was dreadful. The
number wounded was very great; below you have
an account of the killed.

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON, SATURDAY, SEPT. 10.

OW g O'CLOCK, Tile MT.—Thermometer, 63. Ba.
?omelet, 29410. Wind N. Weather, fair and dandy.

The Dutch mails received this morning include
extracts from the Berlin State Gazette of the lit
and 2nd, from which papers we had other extracts
by the last Hamburgh mail. They throw, there-
fore, little new light on the affairs of Poland.—
There is an article, dated from the Russian head-
quarters of the 22d which it appears were still
at Nadarsyn, waiting for reinforcements.
The only military information which the Russi-
ans condescend to give—and we are no strangers
to Russian garbling—is an account of a recoanoi-
Sallt`e of PAIIKEWITSCH near Warsaw, which
evidently is that advance of the Russians, so
often repeated in the foreign journals during the
last week, and which evidently has referred only
to this flying reconnoitre. In regard to the Poles,
we collect incidentally, that their army is encamped
outside of Warsaw ; and that they have a force
opposed to RUDIGEZ, in the direction of Radom ;
but why Rumors has not joined PAIIIICIW ITSCII,
though so much desired, does not appear. Hence
we learn, that down to the rainy season, the Rus-
sians have continued in a state of inactivity.
We acquire by this mail some further parti-
culars of the popular insurrection in Warsaw. They
still are Russian accounts ; and if to be credited,
it appears that some jealousy about the pending
negociations had led the people to place the Go-
vernment in the hands of puma more resolute
than the previous Administration, in their resist-
ance to the pretensions of Russia.

Guinan paws, which we have quoted from
Ganglion. speak decisively of approaching or'
raapnients ; but there articles wets evidentlY
written before the late revolution ; sad as nothing