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here read from a paper ist his hand the statements
which he made in his original speech.] So far from.;
the communications, alluded to by the Hon. *Gentle.'
man, having been of a very amicable nature, he was
informed by the parties concerned that great diffe-
rences of. opinion existed between the Hon. Gentle-
man and themselves, in the interviews 'which they
had had with him ; and that the debate between them
was conducted much in the same mantier as the de-
bates in Parliament between Ministry and Opposition.
The parties most nearly interested were not in pos-
session of the facts. He had been informed by some
most credible persons, that they were completely in
the dark with respect to the provisions of the Bill. It
was highly necessary, therefore, that the Bill should
be printed. Unquestionably it was right to put an
end to any frauds that might exist ; but, at the same
tiMe, great care should be taken that in so doing the
auctioneers and proprietors of estates should not be so
incommoded as to prevent any man from putting up
-his property for sale in an auction-room. He gave
notice that when the proper time should arrive, he
would move the printing of the Bill.
Mr. FR EEMANTLE hoped, that the objection-
able parts of the Bill would be altered. He expressed
his surprise at hearing the Honourable Secretary of
the Treasury lay, that he did not expect much dis-
cussion on a measure of such great importance, af-
fecting the revenues of the Crown. He maintained
that the revenue would be muck .deteriorated were
the Bill allowed to pass in its present shape. The
exiting duties on property sold by auction, afforded
a considerable produce. By one of the clauses of the
:Bill hef re the House, all property put up to sale was
to be considered liable to a duty, whether sold or not,
tinder certain circumstances.. These circumstances
were, that security should be given, if the property
remained unsold by auction, that it should not for
twelve months he disposed of by private contract,
without plying rh • Auction duty. The natural con-
sequence lit such a provision would be, to prevent
pr perry from being put up for sale at all, and the
revenue w. aid thus lose a considerable annual sum
now paid to it as auction duty, and would also suffer
materially from the diminution that must necessarily
take place in the Lumber of advertisements in the
public Papers.
Mr. WHA RTON said, that the Honourable Gen-
tleman had totally mistaken him, if he supposed that
he had said he did not consider the Bill of import.
ance. On the contrary, he thought it of great im-
portance. What he had said was, that in the pre-
sent stage of the Bill he did not expect much discus-
sion upon it. Having communicated with most of
those persons out of ihe House, who were interested
in the measure, and finding among them no disposi-
tion to object to it, he certainly bad a right to calcu-
late on meeting with no very strong opposition in the
House. He expected that all those with whom he
had communicated on the subject were favourable to
the Bill. He bad seen Mr. Marten, and a-Gentle-
nem from Mr. Skinner's in the City ; and he had
seen Mr. Christie and two or three more respectable
auctioneers in the West.end of the town. He had
corresponded also with the principal auctioneers in
various p..rts of the kingdom ; and he had found,
that with certain alterations the Bill would prove ge-
nerally satisfactory. He repeated, therefore, that he
no reason, in the present stage of the Bill, to expect
much opposition to it in Parliament. Nevertheless,
he had no objection to the printing of the Bill ; and
he would suggest that the Bill should be immediately
recommitted, for the purpose of receiving several
amendments that he wished to introduce into it, that
the Report should be brought up, and that the Bill
should then be ordered to be minted, and the Report
to be taken into further consideration on Tuesday.
Mr. HUSKISSON said, that the Bill ought to
have been primed before. It was not merely a mea-
sure to prevent fraud ; it inflicted an auction duty
on an extensive description of property, which had
never yet been rendered liable to it. It was not the
Auctioneers only, the public would he materially af-
fected by it. Such a measure ought not to pass with-
out notice. The Bill contained many objectionable'
clauses, and he was happy that even in this last stage
they had by some fortunate accident been discovered.
' Mr. WHARTON remarked, that the Hon. Gen-
tleman was extremely mistaken if lie supposed that
ample notice had not been given of the introduction
of the measure in question. As to the obnoxious
clauses to which the Hon. Gentleman alluded, they
had been introduced into the Bill at the express de-'
sire of persons who had felt themselves peculiarly ag-
grieved by those mock auctions, the effects of which
were so generally pernicious.
Mr. THOMPSON was persuaded that the Bill
would be productive of great public benefit, if it pre-
vented the impositions that were now so commonly
practised by nests of swindlers. Mock auctions were
not confined to the Metropolis ; they were spread
over the whole kingdom. He had a ccrrespondent
in the North of England, who had described to him
the evils which they occasioned, and the expediency
t putting an end to them. He certainly hoped that
he clauses of the Bill would undergo proper exa-
inatton and correction ; but in opposition to the
lion. Gentleman who spoke last, he must think that
some measure of the kind was absolutely necessary.
Mr. HUSKISSON disclaimed having said that
e did not think the Bill necessary.
Mr. P. MOORE said, that those who opposed the
bnoxious provisions of the Bill, thought the Bill itself
accessary, but wished it to be so modified, that they
light not be ruined by its enactments.
'flae Report was then brought up, the Bill was re-
()Milliard, and several amendments were introduced
y Mr. WHARTON, and the Report of the re-Commit-
rot was brought tip. • .
Mr. WHARTON, in moving that the Reprrt be
;,ken into further consideration on Tuesday, admitted
that although he had not used the expression, " I
ill try the experiment," attributed to him by an
, n. Gently man, he had said to a Member of that
ouse, that if tie measure were nut found sufficiently
perative, it would be necessary to have recourse to
bne eif a stronger nature nest Session,
The Report was then ordered to be taken into fur-
:her coiisidt ration oft Tuesday.
On the motion of Mr. BANKES, the Hclstone
Election Bill was road a second time and ordered to
we committed on Wednesday.
A Mia—ge f!. m the Lords requesting a present
touteietice with the Commons in the Painted Cham-
on the subjt.ct of the last Infer - (the Thir-,

teenth Resolution relative to the East-India COM•
pany) the Committee that managed the last confer.
ence were re-appointed to manage the present, and
lent forth for that purpose. On their return, Lord
BURGHURST reported at the Bar that their Lordships
had agreed to the Reiolution communicated to them
by the Commons in the last conference.

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