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Lord GRENVILLE, before they went into the
orders of the day was desirous of calling their Lord-
ships' attention to a most important tact, which ap-
peared on the face of the accounts on the table.—
Their Lordships would recollect, that early in the
Session a statement had appeared respecting the de-
ficiency in the receipts of the Consolidated Fund, in
'the last year, compared with those of the year be-
fore (alluding, probably, to Mr. Creevey's state-
ment). That statement was not made in that
House, but had found its way to the public—and the
result of irwas this—that the extent of the deficiency
was two millions. Their Lordship; he trusted,
would give him credit for being aware of what must
be known to every one at all conversant in these
matters, that the mere comparison of the total sums
at the foot of the accounts for each year, was no crr.
CHING'S PA TEN i. WORM LOZENGES.
I rain criterion to rest upon, in endeavouring to form
WORMS are the most frequent sources of Chil- •
a correct judgment upon this subject. A minute and
dren's Diseases.—Their symptoms every parent and guar- I accurate examination of the whole of the accounts
dian of children should be acquainted with. They occasion loss I might be necessary, before one could acquire the
of appetite, a paleness of the colour of the face, emaciation and smallest idea of the-real state of the facts. it was for
pains ; this reason that he had called for these accounts, and
state of the bowels, attended after with violent
they bring on convulsions; they affect the growth of the body, .
and they prove fatal, by ending in a consumption or decay. Both : from them their Lordships would be enabled to judge
as a preventative and cure of these alarming complaints,the above . how far the resources of a country were calculated to
o-
! support the desperate measures and impracticable
excellent Medicine is universally allowed, onthe testimony of the
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highest characters in this country, both in rank and respectabi- !
lity, to have no equal. Their public approbation, given to the ~ects of the Ministers—who, instead of husbanding!.
resources with the most lavish pro-
Prepdetor, from a personal knowledge of its wonderful /'recess those cess '
In their own families, stamps its i
merit beyond competition, and fusion. The deficielicy, as he had observed, had
-been stated at two millions ; but their Lordships
gives a sanction to it, of which no other Medicine of the kinsk
can bout. Parents and others, who have the care of children, I would find, on an examination of the accounts, that
should have this remedy as a family
the charge upon the Consolidated Fund had been in-
Medicine to resort to, when- I
ever the stomach or bowels of Children are any way disordered,
which it will always be found to relieve. creased li million ; so that, upon a comparison of
Sold, wholesale and retail, at Ching and Butler's, No. 4, Cheap-
the receipts
side, London ; Sharp and Belau, Portsmouth ;Jonas, Weston, ,
last year bad with the charge, the decrease in the
c 1 amounted in all to st 'millions. The
Mims*, and Mallory, Portsea; Hall and Johnston, Gosport;
Trew, Exeter ; Smith, Manderton, Reaburn, Scott, and lux- result appeared in the account No, 4., where the row
ter, Edinburgh; Baxter and M'Donald, Glasgow ; Bulges and sum for the service of the year in the former period
Barry, Bristol; Stevenson and Co. Norwich; Swinton, Leices-
was £30,113,000, in the Litter period C26,880,0(4
ter ; Edwards and Penny, Liverpool; and retail by fungi:sentry
waking a difference of 5e5,598,000, Red would their
andiseste 'swims is Was, at It ad. and se. 6d. oas,b.

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believe it, was a sum of JE:;3oo,9i)i)
..ja, the account with stated :is part of the
-.receipts ? It might h tve been so indeed, if Ireland
bad been in a situation to answer the financial de-
mands made upon .!ter—but Ireland, it was well
known, was unable to meet these demands, and conse-
quently the deficiency formed an additional bur-
den upon :his country. The sum in question, instead
of beArg a resource, was therefore per contra a charge
upon the fund. He stated this merely to shew that
even the deficiency of three and an hair. trillions was
not all that might be discovered from an accurate
examination of these accounts. He bad no pleasure
in laying this view of the matter before their Lord-
ships—but it was necessary that the real state of the
finances thould be brought before Parliament, in-
stead of vague and imperfect results, that the remedy
night be applied whi:e it was yet possible. These
accounts sheaved how the increasing expence of the
desperate schemes of Ministers felt with accumulated
weight upon th" diminishing resources of the coun-
try. His Lordship, alter adverting to the alarming
• increase of toe fuLded and unfunded debt, concluded
by obs. rving, that the real financial situation of the
country should be fully known, and truly stated, that
however they might lament the cause of these diffi-
culties, they might meet them with all the energy of
knowleige and truth.
lord HA It ROWBY asked, whether, as the No-
ble Lord had made no motion, it was part of his
plan that he sh uid not reply. (No, no, from Lord
Grenville.) He had then to observe, that the con-
clusions drawn from these papers alone might be
very erroneous. N,-thing could be more unfair than
to f rm estunatt:s of the res urces of thecountry from
a comparison of two xears. They must take the ave-
rage of a great many years—and the fact was, that
the produce of the former period alluded to, was far
greater ,han that of any preceding year. Tire pro.
once of the last quartets in the latter period, had be-
sides not yet been completed. As to the sum in the
account with Ireland, Le admitted that it was a
charge up.n the hind. The tact was, that the ex-
pence at which the war had been carried en since
180, sea, w. nderfullv small, considering the mag-
. nitude itt the contest. 'From-the lin.r of policy adopted
by the enemy, it was natural, that there should be a
deticiel.cy in the Curt ms, the produce of which must
be so materially affected by the decrease of foreign
commerce--but in other respects, with the exception
of that article of Excise ttat depended upon fo-
reign spirits, there was every appearance of increased
resources. '1 he inere .se of internal consumption
marked the ',regressive advance of afauence. lie
should be petfectiy ready, at any time, to enter upon
a minme diseussron of this subject.
Loid LAUDERDALE &fended the accuracy
of his Noble I mend (Grenvi;le's) statement, and ob.
served, that it at all erroneous, it was in rather un-
derstating the matter. He had a high opinion of the
talents or his Noble Ft iend, and the Noble Lord op-
posi.e ; and be hoped they were aware, that to un-
derstand this subject correctly, much study and se-
vere labour was necessary. he had no hesitation in
saying, that our financial situation required the
prompt interference of Parliament, and the estab-
lishn:ent of a most rigid system. After adverting LI
the distreses of our commercial and manutacturing
interests, he observed, that he by no means w;theet
to excite despair—but an overstatemeat of our tivan.
cial resources might be attended with the worst effects.
HOU.-EIIOLD BILL.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL °buried, that in
rising to move the third reading of the Household
Bill, it would probably be easier for himself, and
more satisfactory to their Lordships, if he should
state the grounds out of which not only this, but the
two other Bills (the Household Offices and Regency
Expences Bills) beloie the kicuse grew, as they alt
f rmed part of the same systi.m. In calling the at-
tention of the Hou,e last Session to the measure thin

proposed on account of his Majesty's illness, it would
be rem, mered they had legislated with a view only
to a temporati y evil. In that arrangement their Lord-,
ships had thilight proper to iirpose ctriain restric-
--tLeals on the Regtm, which were to cease s-on after
the present miming of Parliament ; leaving it to the
_Legislature in this &ssion to determine, according to
circumstacc. s, wiiat est.,blishmtnt it might be fitting
to provide Ix his Majesty and the Prince. At the
commencement of the Session, one of their first acts'
had been to appoint a Committee to examine into the
state cf his Majesty's health. Whatever might be
the shades of ditlerence in the opinions of individuals
on this point, the general result certainly was, that
nothing remarried but to consider what establishment
-it would be proper to maintain about his Majesty's
person with a due regard to his conitort and cligt.ity
—and, how the Civil List should be applied to sup-
pert the expences of the Executive Goveinment.— 1
The first principle which must form the basis of any
proceeding on this subject; and that which they were
bound to bear in mind, was the pos,ibility that his
Majesty might recover. Looking at this as possible,
they were bound to secure to his Majesty, in ease of
his recovery, the means cf resuming his station with
every facility. Having done that, they were then to
consider how far the Civil List should he- placed at
the disposal of the Prince Regent. Setting out on •
that pi inciple, they would recoilect, that at the corn-
menet merit of his Majesty's reign, the Civil List had
been given him to defray the expences of supporting
'his dignity, and partly those necessary in the admi-
nistration of his Government. In considering, then,
how the Civil List should be applied, they would re-
member the view with which it had been originally
granted. It was fitting that the portion which had
been granted tor the expences of Government should
accompany the executive administration. But, in the
first place, they must take out of it what was neces-
sary for the comfort of his Majesty in his present
situation. This must be regarded -as the lien, if he
might use the expression, upon the Civil List. What
then, was a suitable establishment for the Sovereign ?
In this view of the subject, he should not do justice
to the feelings of their Lordships, and of the people
of this country, f'e should not do what was becoming
towards his Sovereign, if he did not 'remember the
circumstances under which his Majesty had filled his
high office, as well as the calamity with which he was
at present visited. To pay all due regard, not only
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to the cot-Mous, Ira to the dignity and'feelings of the
King, was equally necessary in regard to their own
justice, character,. and honour,- In looting at this
question, it must always be borne in Mind, that they

I were arpointing an establishment) not only for a sick
Iman, but for a sick King—that they were not only
to provide for the comfort of the man, but for the
!dignity of the Sovereign. Their Lordships would, ,
he repeated, recollect, that it was possible his Ma- I
ije-ty might recover ; and they ought likewise to re-I
' fleet, that several stages might intervene betweenl
the period of sickness and that of corivalescence.—
Another view of the case was, that his Majesty
might recover to a certain degree, and remain for
a long time in a middle .state..; in which, though in.
capable of rcsitm'ng the Government, he might de.
rive comfort and satisfaction from finding himself
treated in a manner suited to the dignity of his sta-
tion. In any arrangement, this, therefore, mist be
considered ; and it must also be a very desirable ob-
ject that his Majesty's family should be enabled to
remait% about him. He (Lord Liverpool) was satis-
fied that the house would not think €109,000 o omuch
for the maintenance of his Majesty's Household.—
This was, however,-to be understand as independent
lof R 60,000 for the Privy Purse, which was already
heavily burthened with charitable annuities and
other donations. He (Lord Liverpool) should now
mention the arrangements for the Prince Regent.
--Yet he must beg leave to mention previously, that
as some of the Officers in attendance upon the
Royal state had certain functions connected with the
throne, whoever might hold it, it was expedient that
the Officer left in superintendance of the Household
should be that one the least connected with the
public offices of Royalty. Some Grooms and Eque-
ries would also be properly added. As the Prince
Regent assumed the royal office only until the reco-
very of the King, it was not to be easily supposed
that their Lordships would allow the Prince's rights
to be injured by this temporary assumption. Their
Lordships would observe, that it was proposed to
contribute £30,000 of the Prince's revenue to the Civil
List. In addition to the stet( ment already given,
about £lO,OOO was proposed to be given to the
Queen for her increased annual expenditure. 'llw
great rule which regulated all these provisions, was
the consideration of the King's future resumption of
authority. The account would then stand thus :
There would be deducted from the Civil List
RlOO,OOO ; 'from the separate revenues of the Prince,
£30,000 were to be given, and €70,000 were to be
provided for by the Bill. In forming this estimate,
it was necessary to consider the extent of his Ma-
iesty'e family, and how much this must add to the
expence. He felt he should not discharge his duty
without referring to the excesses of the Civil List.—
Whatever might be thought on the subject, he must
say, he did not consider it a time for a new arrange.
ment of the Civil List ; but he must declare that the
estimate was unequal to the expence. It was only
necessary tolook to the sum voted for it five years
ago, and look to the rise of private property since, to
see how inadequate it must be. In looking over the
items cf excess in the Civil List, they would be seen
under the least suspicious of all possible h, ads—the
expc nces of Foreign Embassies and Missions, in which
is was to be expected that no estimate could fairly
ascertain the expence. The other heads were vouched
by the tradesmen's bills. It was obvious, that from
whatever cause, ten or £20,000 a year would not do
as much now as fifty years ago. If no application
had been made to Parliament on those excesses, it
Was beca.usa they were met by another fund ; and
while that fund was suffered to remain at his Ma-
jesty's disposal, and was found sufficient, no applica-
tion would be made. A precise, specific, unimprov_
able income was given to the Crown; and while all
other things rose, it was expedient that it too should
have its addition. The Prince Regent had, in the last
Session, very honourably refused any addition to his
( income ; but that was merely in the idea of a tem-
porary authority. The whole arrangement was now
lb. fore the House. He siould now say no more.-
1 He intreated their Lordships n t to suffer any extra-
ne.oussonsiderations to mingle at present in the ques-
tion, but to look upon it tidy in reference to the
huithen which it might ba necessary to impose, and
the measure of Royal dignity which it was expedient
..0 sustain.

Lord GRENVILLE had many objections to the
In-nt and to the principle , f the Bill ; but as their
Loidships mig!A be diAuclined to enter largely into
these matters, he should rest, iot himself to a few pro-
minent p lilts. He admitted that the present circum-
stances differed from tho.e of his Majesty's first
ill-
ness, or that in 1811. In the first, hopes, fortunately
well founded, were entertained of recovery ; in the
secend, hores, and would to GOD they had been
equally well founded, were entertained. There was,
no doubt that considerable difficulty lay in any
view of arrangement which might be proposed.—
There was absnl'itely no precedent in either of the
former cases. The present was almost entirely new.
But it was to be considered, that as our hopes of re-
covery had been disappointed, our fears of continued
malady might be equally unfounded, and therefore
no provi,ion should be made without adverting to
this. He felt the difficulty of all this. He could
more easily set up a standard and measure in his own
mind for either of the former cases, than in the pre-
sent, which was made up of temporary and perma-
nent considerations. There was one material objec-
tion in the present arrangement,—the provisions
seemed extremely involved (Hear.) As to the ex-
cesses cf the Civil List, he was one of those who
could never think public difficulties removed by
being kept out of sight ; and he thought that if defi-
ciencies existed, the wisest way was to bring them
plainly before Parliament. As to another point of
the Noble Lord's (Liverpool) speech, there could be
no hesitation. There could be but one opinion as to
the necessity of providing, nut merely for sickness,
but for a sick King ; every comfort should be added
ro every dignity that his state could require. He
should go a step farther, and say, that the question
of whether the sum allotted for this was too much or
too little, was one which he could not entertain.—lt
revolted his feelings. But as to the mode of arrang-
ing all this, he must look to the principles of our an-
cestors. He had often regretted, that the Civil List
united two things so distinct, as the support of the
Household, and the expences of Government. (Hear,
hear, from the Opposition.) Ho had often lamented
it, and thought, that if the matter came to be re,
considered, a better way might be adopted. But
that was at present out of the question. The Ci-
vil List was granted to the King for life ; and a
Icontract made with the King when he was able
to give consent, was not now to be violated. The

Which had otigiuolly mingled those apparent te tlemao, though an early opporeno had not at host.I*.otl
two objects in the Civil List, was the unwilling-1 appeared against it—it was carried onanon„usly
ness of our ancestors to place a distinct and ungra- went through tho Committees until jected to by that
cious limit on the necessary expenses of the House- Right Hon. Memhsr, and would have passed the:
hold. In conformity to that principle, lie, instead I House but for a dissolution cf Pa:lie/neut. its d
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of asking abeut the particular Household erpences, / next Parliament, ( March, 1807) hetod again brought,
should ask, what might be the necesssity of making so the measure forward, and thenutevicbeiloLf that
large
, large au increase to the general fund ? This was ccr- tleman had not been raised against it. It pease,'
tainly better than dividing it into pot tons. When he through the House as a perpetual bill, but was up.
( Lord Glenville) came into administration, he under- fortunately rejected in the Lords. The House 1441
s:ocol that there was an excess of the Civil List ; but then addressed the Throne to grant no office in
while a fund existed capable of defraying it, he did sion during the vacation. The next Session it sos
not choose to apnly to Parliament. He hoped he brought forward ogairras a perpetual
and his friends were even entitled to some commit- , thrown out in the Lords ; and they. it was that
tM
dation for not applying to the country on the subject, House, though the measure was evidently a Geo.,
while the funds were disposable. He had been anxi- rite, yet to prevent disputes and disturbances betweri
ous to know the real state of the excesses : and an ex. the ta o branches of the Legislateare, gateoway, apd
pet-intent had been made by a new system of account agreed to make it a temporary measure ; not abar.
to ascertain it. The result of the expet iment might atoning, however, the:r intention to ni;d it perpetoo
have been to authorize an application to Par:i amens.. nor the hope that the other House, at some in;ore re!
At present, he did not see any ground for an average riod, might be induced to give their consent. Why,
excess, demanding such an increase as that called for. then, was it assumed, because the Lords had once
He, however, deprecated any view of the subject that I rejected it, that they would always reject it ? Way
went to examine whether the sum was too much cr I mightthey not be convinced hy subsequentreasnaiegaa
too little for the personal expenditure. The Noble the subject? Why might they not seethatmaeyof their
Lord (Liverpool) had said, it WAS impossible to first pi ejtolices were ill-fonnied? It oasashOeiyacethit
think of diveving the Prince of any right which he House to give way as for the House c.f Commons;
had possessed before; and yet, in the face of his own and it was to be hoped that their pertinacious resin.
declaration, he came proposing to take a large polo j ance would sub&de. The Bill was brought Inward
tion of his property, and add it to the Civil List. He i at an eat ly period of the Session, so that there Imo
had done what had never been attempted before; and fear of its being lost be a dissolution of Parlininoit;
by allotting a share for the support of the Royal Per- and if it failed, they might hare recourse to their no
son, and a share for the Royal dignity, had actually medy of lost SessOwo and make it temporary. He",
portioned out the Civil List. He (Lord Grenville) not a friend to temporary me.oures ; bin thotoh
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agreed that the care of the King's person should be fluctuating condition of human affairs seemedti to O.
committed to the tried affection of the Queen, and your them, yet such was not the state of our Stattte
that she ought to have the superintendence of the per. Book ; and the present was especially a measure
sons connected with her Household. Ministers, in which might to be perm tent. If the offices is
their system of portioning, had even divided the question we:e beneficial to the State, surely
Kingly state. They Lad given a part to the King, bestowing them in revers:on was ti:e Way to a,
and a part to the Prince Regent: but the Prince ac- stroy that benefit, as it must put them frequently in
tually enjoyed authority and state only as in behalf the hands of incompetent persons—often in the „ales
of the King. We were tried by the King's laws, of children ; so that in a short time effiLient offices
and guarded by the King's fleets and armies.. But would be converted into sinecures, at d titer poem;
the principal point, perhaps, was, that no one was re- f must be faund to do the required duties. As tote
sponsible 1 r the expandituie of the Household money. measure trenching upon the prerogotive, he insisted
Ot the three great Officers of State, but one, the that it would not produce such eff:ct, but would least
Lord Chamberlain, was left; but neither he nor the to a more fair exercise of it. It was the granting to
Lord Steward was responsible to the I ord Treasurer. Offices in Reversion which encumbered the preroga.
'He could not help thinking this want of responsibility tive. This Bill, on the contrary, would nut only not
a serious objection to the plan. curtail it, but put it in a state of greater strengoiand
Lord HA RROWBY made some remarks upon activity. It was an anomaly that it c, uld not bens.
the preceding speech, and ended by saving that an certained how fir offices might be granted in this
account of all expenses was to be regularly given in. manner, nor what ought to be the proceedings, dose
Lord GRENVILLE repeated his assertion, that Crown should choose to give in reversion °dices never
no one of the three great officers. was technically obli- before so granted. The same might be said with
ged to give in an account. Possibly, by the tenour respect to the grant of Reversionary Pensions. There
of the Bills, the Court of Exchequer might be audio. was no rule, that he Wes aware of, in the Comma
rized to demand it ; but it was undouutedly a defi. or Statute Law to prevent such donations. It sae
ciency that no clause to that effect was inserted. therefore, the duty of that House to inte.fert ; Mr if
Lord LIVERPOOL said, that the power of the the Bill was not passed, it would be thuug!tt that
Court of Exchequer in the case was so well known, reversions were good, and that pensions should be
that it was thought quite unnecessary to introduce granted fur more than one life. As to the economy
any new clause on the subject. of the measure, he had never held it out to tLe coos.
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.— try as capable of producing much good that way,bet
.Adjourned. rather as a measure to prevent carelessoess in the
-- granting of offices and the multiplication of sinecures.
HOUSE OF COMMONS. At tile same time, he could not consent to speak cf
Lord OSSULSION presented a petition fur a new Theatre the economical objects of the Bill in so shio ung a
fur London and Westminster. manner as the last Speaker. Tomigh this messes,
ohe Royal Assent was given by commission to the two Ex- as might also be said of the Abolition of Sinecwes,
cheque! Bills, one for raising .eiu,Soo,ooo, the other for raising
.C 1,500,000, and to the Dist.dation Prohibition Act, and the Irish was not calculated to produce any great sating ts
Suspension Intercourse Act. the country, yet some good might be effectel ; sad
The Houle went lulu a Committee on the Navy Stores in Ire- at any rate it became that House to recoeuise the
land Frtibexakmept Bill. Report ordered to be received on principle, that economy was higoly and inisispeembly
Monday.
Mr MANNING brought in a Bill for prolonging the time for useful to a State—(hear, hear.) He busted, dmr
the completion of the London Ducks. fore, that the House would accede to the Yd Pie
Previous to going into a Committee on the Lords' Act Am, nd- of the Bill.
meat Bill, Mr. RENRICK wished to enlarge the Ball, and Lord The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
FOLKES I ONE consented, provided nothing should be intro-
the appealed to the Right Hon. Gentleman and us
timed of a nature to create opposition.
The SPEAKER hint rag that the usage of the House was with House, that ever stooe this bill bad been first dims
Lord Folk stone, out in the Lords, he had uniiorn.ly mem; vied kiss
Mr. Iie.NRICK agreed to withdraw his motion, In case of op- matter which he Considered av of very little ism position.
'I he House then went into a Commis tee: after which the Re-
Lance, tight r as a measure of economy, or as iteeseg
port was received, read, and rsferred to Oats day week. It WAS the prerogative of the Crown. He could not, hoe.
ordered to fie printed. ever, avoid raying now, that the proceedings tie dis
The last India Loan Alteration Bill was read a first time, and point had on ail occasions been highly colouted. He
ordered to be read a second on Monday next. i ow ualerstof.d from his lionourable Fsiend (Mr.
The Committee of Sup, ly, and the Committe of Ways and
Means, were postponed till Monday n, xt. Banks), that it is as not looked to as a n.easure ri
On the motion of Mr. W. POLE, the Reports of the coin- economy ; and that, whatever the pawns La the
missioners of Enquiry in Ireland, which were received last Fri- Crown might be, it would nut be any injury to the
day, were oat ere.l to be pa.nted.
public on toe store of prerogative. It was evident the
Aar. CALCRAF I* moved for the Returns of the Regular Army and Militia, exclusive of foreign corps, distinguishing the subject had been exaggerated ; and it the Lill elf
numbers at home and abroad. carried, the power of the Crown would, in the count
Ns°, tor the Returns of the Recruits raised in the ordinary of a century, be as great as it was beim& He bed
mode, up to June, Ist t.
Also, fur the Returns of the Casualties, Desertions, Ste. till
June, 1811, therefore thought it a measure that it was moaner*
while to oppose ; but lie had always said, that it gm
Mr. EDEN postponed h!s notice on the Civil List Expenditure evident horn its being repeatedly thrown out in dit
till Monday mit. Lords, it would be an useless business, unless It
OFFICES IN REVERSION BILL. proved to be of some mate, ial advantage in pinto.
On the question, that the Bill be read a second economy ; and it would be better it should not be
time,
persisted in, as it might be the means of interrupting
Mr. W. DUNDAS stated, that four years ago he the harmony between the two Houses, which, when
had stood solely in opposition to this Bill, and still I the object was of slight consequence, ought studiciatil"
found himself compelled to oppose it. This, lie could Ito be avoioed. If the object weir of real importances
assure the House, he did from conviction. He con- I then, indeed, as had ueen will observed. by Mo
ceived that the Hon. Member (Mr. Bankes), in pro I Bankes, it might be desirable to try it the Pert!"4l7
posing a Bill so different from the one which was on 1 which appeared in another place might not la time
the point of expiration, should not have been content I, be overcome : but if it Was not of that impeetracti
with saying merely, that such Bill was expiring, but it then became only pertuoscity against pee6llloll_l.l
should have given some additional reasons for his new -and that met m might, with equal propriety. be
measure. It was a most fallacious argument, and to that House as to the her. His Hoseatebil
shewed much sanguine credulity in him who held it, Friend had allowed it was not an object of easielef•
to suppose that by the saving of a few offices, any nor of any great consequence as tenoing to a dais'
relief could be afforded to the country ; such reduc. tion of the power of the Cro4:n ; and he (Mr.
tion would not make the difference of a feather in the vii) thought therefore, that in order to preserve
scale. The abuses in Ireland had been urged ; but snotty between the two Houses, it would be bettor°
he thought them no argument for tying up the hands oppose the second reading of the bill.
of the Crown, though they were a reason for abtidg- Mr. BANKES said, that according to the.Ror
ing ohe power of the Viceroy. As to Scotland, there of the Finance Committee, there were many
were but two reversions in that country—one holden i which it was thought necessary to be abolishedl"
by Mr. Lovell, the other by himself. He concluded as such, the subject would soon come under theta'
by observing, that the prerogative of the Crown was templation of the House.
part of the light of the people, and should be sup- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEI
ported ; and that there was little chance of the said, that while there was any proceeuiug berwe success of this measure in another place, unless it House, which went to the actual abolishing otiOPlace,
were presented in some other shape. in particular, he should not, in the situation he Wei_
Mr. BANKES desired that the clerk might read have thought.of opposing
it and that was the 041
part of the original resolution of the House on this explanation he deemed it necessary to give.
subject.—lt was read. Lord A. HAMILTON pointed out certain (Arica.'
Mr. BANKES then stated, that it was not surpri- the abolition naot
measurewlch of
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sing that his own memory this business should be the pre
more accurate than that of the Right Hon. Gentleman. sent situation of the country
rendered it iseasein
On the first introduction of that bill, it had been highly that nut a farthing should be uselessly expended.
favoured by the House, and their opinion had Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY said, there had big.
been placed on their journitls, The Right Hon. Gen, nothing stated by the Chancellor of the Excheq.)