Star.
London, England, 1805-02-16 00:00:00

LOTTERY NOW DRAWING.

.QWIPT and Co. No. t, Poultry, beg leave to
k)in-
form the Public, that the Capitals now In the Wheel era as
follows, vis.-1 of as,cool. 3 of to,cooL 3 of *sowL zof !cool.
befides others of sea the. &e.
. Undrawo Tickets and Shares eoatinse on fale at the above
Vice, where the Ticket No. 548sz ai first-drawn, third day, en-
titled to Soot and No. boo, a Prise of tooci. in the prefect Lotr
tt-y, were fhared and fold.
The Seventh Day's Drawing win be on Tburfday nest.

RICH STATE OF THE WHEEL.
I Prize of CAS,CCO 3 Prises of 4. s„,00
3 ditto 10,000 s ditto 4CW
• Ike. &e.
And only FIVE DAYS to Draw. •
Ti C4TS and Shutm, warranted undrawn, are
Filing at HALL and Cu.',, (Lite Nlchclfon) No. BE, Corn•
hl', where all Pizes wiU he p.id on dernand.
Thurfday next will be the Seventh day of Drawing.

ropooL F.td-drawn - 7th Day.
,0001 Ditto - Sib Day.
POPE recinnmenda an early application at the
Luekr O:S.:c, Corner of the Royal application
oppofite the
Bank. as the Whcel is extremely rich, there are but Five Days to
Draw, and vtry few Tickets remain unfold.
Thurfday next will be the Seventh Day's Drawing.

WHEEL OF FORTUNE.

t of sy.ocio-3 of scvarAL-3 of y,oool. Sre. Sce.
rr ROBERTS begs w acquaint the Public, that
. there are but Five Days to drlw, and the Wheel is twine.
canter* Rich. Tickets and Shares are felling at his OM State
Lotter if Mee, Ne.B, Con:hill.
Ti.u:fitay nest win be ear Seventh Dar of Thawing.

REMARkAHLE RICH WHEEL.
Prize of as,OOOL 3 Priacs of sessal.
3 - loped` s • sidooL
bee. &e. &e. •
TICKETS and Shares will continue on Sale whilit
an 7 rcrnalo, at DRUMMOND's Office. No. 6s, Rut-
firet, wbcre No. 3,4311, a Prise of SooL was fold and tegiftered
t's.e Second Day of Drawing.
A. DRUMMOND recommends an early pUretraft,P very few
..ri•.itets arc left on hand. Ihe Contraftorl, musk to thc,r credit,
Lac engaged t) provide the Ofhoskeepers with them as long as
the,. lave any loft.
Thrfday nest will be the Seventh Day of Drawing.

el SCOTT returns his mo(t grateful acknowledg-
e ments to his Friends and the Public for the kind Patronage
lichis received, and thinks it his Doty to inform thesis that the
TICKETS for the GRAND STATE LOTTERY (now draw-
ing) amorist all fold t therefore, to prevent difappointosent, he
recommtmds an immediate application at his old eilabliescd Fortu-
nate °nice, No. 7c, New Bond•fireet, where he will continue fel-
ling Ticksts and Shares, warranted =drawn, whilit any remain.
71tt, naprerede9ted demand for Tickets and Shares is obvious to
Irk wow& captify. the Whed. canal:flog one Prize of as.wol.
they: of lopoci. three of 5,00a1. four of t,ox4 fa of soot bcsdca
inuntrons too!.'s, &c. kc &c.

Midday non will be the Seventh Day of Drawing.

UNIVERSrII'Ot OXFORD.-tHE ROEBUCK INN.

9 'RE NdEILiTY and GENTRY, who mayhave
oecsfion to viftt or travel through OXFORD, are molt re-
ipetetally felicitt.d to order their Carriagea to the ROEBUCK
INN, where Capital limits and eaperienced Drivers are ready to
forward them at the trafonabic rite of
QNE SHILLING PER MILK.
Ada to that,: Families, or Perron% why, may wa to continue
a fcadays at 0-. ford. to examine and view the monuments of art,
eicratt edifices. and curio Sties, depofited in this celebrated Uni-
actelty,tisc RI) trz cc aforda alp:rata] aad comforta:.ic abode,
whcrethe outwit attention to pad, and where the charges arc
moderate.

AEACTY IMPROVED.
're:.l eradicate thofe blemifhes of Nature ,from the
-A. Face and Arrs, S.iperfluom Hairs, no Depilatory can in the
teat degra.cater the kale of coospetitioo with that well-known
and eftablißel nne, ALFRED'S ROYAL. COMPOSITION, lirft
prepared for the beautiful Antoinette. The materials of which it
is competed are perfealy Innocent, yet polliefs the additiorial same
of improving the Beauty of the Complexion I
It is fold by apps.intment of the Proprietor, is packets at Js. 6d.
and 33. each. Wlicikfale is Loodoo, by Hendrie and SOM. Par..
flamers to her Mileftyjichhome•Rreet ; Gattic and Lea, se., New
Bood-ftrcet ; Dayikina, sp, Fleet-rirect ; Berry, Greek Areet
Cryer, 68, Cornbill ; and Shaw and Edwards. St. Past's Church-
vsrd—and Ret.iil at Bath. by Nana, Marriott, Reynolds, and-
Warren and Roder ; at BMA by Bulgin ; Gioucefter by Whit •
sack; Salianity, by Collins; Liverpool, by Gregfoo's; Edinburgh,
by .%ntircw Smith, James Spence, sod Willi.,ro Rackhurne ; in
16.1 :IN by Ball, Damn-ftrca, and in every capital town in the
'on:rd Kingdom.

, •
A CAUTION TO IAMILIES.
ZI:ROESS AND SON'S ESSENCE OP ANCHOVIES AND
•arasa RICH SAUCES-
'II" great repatatien which Mr. BURGESS has
plata 11 HIS ESSENCE OF ANCHOVIES and other
111:Cif-SAUCES, S.r fifi Sara, Stewed litaf. 1111141 Calves Heat,
Jiesf Steel?, Mile Alkn. Wild Fetid, mates** t with many Ilrli
seeks for the Table, Sideboard, and Store Room; which are more
tullp c tprelkd iss his Catalogue, (He kiK the lerventor of thew,) has
toduscd many paces to give the fame name to Articles entirely
eliFtrent,whkh arc vended at many Sloops in London, by perfons
%ha go to the principal Towns in England, Ireland, and Scotland,
to foam Orders of Tradefaten and %mks:vers. who le eonfe•
gums are often Lrved with Starless goers, of very inferior quali-
ties, which I. not only an hopofition, but a great dlfappointment
to Fansilles who purehafe them with a view of having good Sauce
to their nth, ace.
N.H. None are His Gennine,bot what have there words on
• she La`•el," BURGESS and SON'S, Original and Superior ES-
SP NCE OF ANCHLIVIA, Na 14, &rawly CM," of Savoy
Ski a, Loadue

EAST INDIA HOUSE, Rim 15, 1805.
THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the
UNITED COMPANr e• MERCHANTS V. ENG-
LAND.trolsarz to the EAST-INDIES. having, on the icth ult.
contented by nallot to tram Mr. William Betty, formerly a
Surgeon on the Madras Eftabillbarent, to the Company's Service,
in which more than three parts in four concurred, agreeably to
the AEI of Parliament of the t3th of his prefent Melefty„ for
eltablithirg certain Regulations for the Laid Company
Neikei• &My given, That at the Gtueral Court appointed to be
held on Thurfday, the 28th loft. the Rcfolution of the Paid Court
of Diredors relative to Mr. William Betty will be offered to the
conlidcration of the General Court.

WILLIAM RAMSAY; Serrtary.

EAST.INDIA HOUSE. Feints, ts,
THE COURT of DIRECTORS of UNITED
COMPANY e MERCHANTS e ENGLAND bait
bade EAST INDIES, d• bereifry giw Naice,
That at the General COUrt appointed to be held on Thurfday,
the 28th inftaut, a Refolution of the Court of Di melon ache 28th
December lA, for granting au Annuity to Mrs. Mattwell, widow
of Lieutenant Colonel Maxwell, of his Majelly's 19th Regiment
of Dragcons, who fellat the head of the Cavalry in the Battle of
Affye ; alio a Refolution of the Court of Diredoes of the 4th
ultimo, for grandmas Annuity to Mrs. Stevenfon, wife of Colo-
nel James Stevenfon, of the Madras Eftabliament, mould file
furvive her bufband; and likewife a Refolutiou of the Court of Di-
reetors of the 30th ultimo, for granting a Peallon to Philip Bra-
barn. Efq. late Ading Deputy Governor of Poet Marlborough,
will be laid before the Paid General Court for their approbation,
agreeably to the 19th &@i= of the 6th Chapter of the Company's
Bye-laws. WILLIAM RAMSAY, &missy.

PEWFF

AMEETING of fucit ierfons relident in London,
as are eoeuseEted with, and interefted in, the profperity of
the County and Town of Perth, is ravened to be held at the
London Coffee Hank. Ludgate-hi& on Tacit's,' next, at Twelve
o'Cloek, to take into eonfideradon a Plan now going forward for
the honour of both.

N. B. The Chair will be tam at Oee &Clock preeifely.

BOARD OF AGRICULTIIRE.-SPRING WHEAT.

'THE BOARD ofAittcuL.ru RE having re-
A. caved information.from various Diftrldv,of the Benefit arif-
Jog from the. CULTIVATION of SPRING WHEAT; and it
appearing to the Board that, at the prt (cot period, it may be parti •
cularly ufeful to promote that objedt, have refolven to Idler the fol.
lading Premiums:
To the perfon who than, In the Spring of tilos, cultivate the
Oreateft Number of Acres of Spring Wheat, not Ids than Two sty,
Fifty Guincai; or a Piece of Plate of that value.
Accounts, verified by Certificates, to be produced on or before
the Mil Tuefday in February, 1806. It it rcquireil that the
quality of Seed. forts of Wheat, time of lowing, produce, and value
of the Crop• and the effects of any Meunier which may attack
the Plants, be reported.
For the next greateft Quantity, Thirty Guineas; or a Piece of
Plate of that value.

For the next greateft Quantity, Twenty Gaines; or a Piece of
Plate of that 'due.

The Board has been informed, that the true Spring Wheat may
be Town fuecefsfully fu late as the end of April. Several Corref-
pondents on the fubjedt of the bit Hanreft obferved, that the
Spring Wheat had efeaped the Mildew in parts of the Country
'where the Autumnal had not, and yielded better.
To the Perfoo who Stall report to the Board the refuh of the
molt fati.f&dtory experiments on Spring Wheat, which gull afeer-
tain the Soil, the fort of Wheat, the time of lowing, the produce,
and value, the comparative advantages of this, and common Wheat,
and any other eircumitancesufetul to be known, a Piece of Plate of
the value of Twenty Pounds.
To be produced on or before the Slit Tuefday in April, tßoy.
COUNTY OF CAMARTHEN.

AT a full and reffsettible Meeting of the Gentry,
Clem, Traders and others of the (aid County, held at the
Shire-Hall in the Town of Carmarthen, on Tuefday the sth day
of February zEot, in confeqsence of a Requifidoo to JOHN
SYMMONS, Efq. High Sheriff of the laid County, for the pur-
ple of taking into Conlidenition the molt effectual Mode of fup-
pro:Sing the Circulation of Notes under the Value of Five Pounds
each, cteept thole of the Bank of England,
'NATHANIEL MORGAN; Efq. in the Chair,
Rdolved, a. That the Ming of Notes, under the Value of
Five Pounds each, by Country Bankers, Iron Mafters, and Trad-
ing Firms, is become a felons Evil; that the Circulation of fuck
(mall Notes by Country Bankers, ike. can In no refpoft conduce
'to the convenience of the Public, but Inuit only be cooildere4 as
a moll improper Mode al creating Funds for their own private
Advantage.
z. That the Receipt of Notes of the above Defeription in Rents,
and all ocher pecuniary Tranfaftions, is attended with much lo(s
, of time, trouble, and inceavenience; and, if not checked. will in a
lbort dme prevent any Spode being brought into Circulation.
3. That (mall Notes, payable at diltant pl.-ccs, are the means of
railing the Prices of Pradbons to the middling and poorer Claffes,
as they muft rethink to exorbitant Demands for what
they road* wW thole Notes, or pay a Premium for their
Amount in Specie.
4. That as bia MORO Receivers of Tate. and Excite Duties in
this County, will receive no (mall Notes ha Payment, except thole
of the Bask of England, and alto for the Reafons before Rated, it
is Refolved, by thole attending this Meetii. • that they will not
receive in the murk of any tranfealons of 13iiiitters, whether in
the Receptor Rents or otherwife, any Notes under the Value of
Five Pounds each, ese:pt dude of the Bank of England ; and that
the Nobility, Gentry, Clergy, and others of this and the neigh—
bouring Counties, be requited to co-operate with this Meeting In
their eolicafolars to check a Mcdore fo detrimental to the Public
lutereft.

s. That a lificient Number If Copies of theft Refolutioos be
sprinted In Bawl& and Welk and that the fame be circulated and
Ruck slis aU Public Places within this County, and advertifed
'Three IA the London Papers, called the STA R, COUTMS.Tea•
yeller, and Sant and in the Cinnbrian, tiloliceites, Hereford, and
Sarah Farley's Mild IPopers. •
6. That the thanks cif this Meeting be even to the Sherif', for
his Readinds to lalibie this Meeting.
N. MOR 0 A )1. Chiiinnan.
7. That the Thwilifol tkis hketint be gh•cu to the Chair:on ,
for bis elided la ilk 1131blite

For account of the Manufadurcrs, exempt from the Avalon
Duty, agreeable to Ad of Parliament, Thurfday, Feb. at.
MERAC, SON and Co. will put up to Public Sale, at their Ware-
bodes, No. 78,
_ller.4l [tree;
I'HE FOLLOWING A ortment of BRITISH
PIECE GOODS.
3100 Pieces Bakfores, Shawl. de.
too Plain and Fancy Cambric
lop jaennets, Tambour,. &c.
oo "White and Printed Calicos and Shawl.
soon Puille-sts
woo Velveteens. Nankeensoke.
sot) Dimities, Quilgings, Ch0:43,8,4-
,pp Woollen COhi;Goatinp.and Kerfeyrntres
300 Dozen Hollery aoo Pieces Ofnaburggs
moo Military Great Coats zoco lockets, lAraillcoatt, de.
x Soo Prowlers and Drawers soc Dozen Shirts and Caps.
'Fein viewed as above, where Catalogues may be bad, and at
the New York and Tour. Coffee-houfes
M. MERAC, jun. Broker.

TO BE SOLI) BY AUCTION—By Mr. SAMUEL MILLS,
On the Pramlces at Market Overton. In the county of Rutland,
on Monday the IR of April next, and (ire following Days,
THE modern Houfehold Flu niture, and numerons
other effedts, the properfi of CHARLES MANNERS. Efq .
eomprifmg fourioft and field *Walt:ads, with neat and elegant
furniture • upwards of twenty prime gook feather beds and (lik-
able bedding, mahogany double chett of drawers, wardrobe, fide.
board, fecretary, dining, card, and other tables, mahogany chairs,
In red morocco and Patin hair (eating, japanned chafrs, and fora to
match, large pier glafks and mirrors, Turkey, BrufTels, and other
carpets, large copper, brewing utenGls, kitchen requites, &c &c.
the particulars of which will be advertifed in a fume paper, and
catalogues may be had in due time.
_ _

The goods may be viewed on Friday and Saturday preceding
the (ale.

And on Wcdoefthy the id of Apnl, at Twelve o'Cloek, will be
• Prcr, mptotily Sold by Auttion,
The Hoare, ftanding in a Paddock of Four Acm, with a good
Kitchen Garden; to which is added, a Clofe of 17 Acres—the
whole of which is tithe-free, freehold, and the land tax redeemed.

The Houfe has been put in a thorough flute of repair:and added
to, the left fummer ; it confifts 4 a good entrance-hall, dining,
drawing, and break fait, roams, la bed bed-rooms, two drening-
rooms, Ave garrets, water-elocet,houfekerpres room, fervan te-halt,
' kitchen, pantry, and (tote mom, . nd exec& nt wine and beer ca-
jun, detached wails honk and laundry, dairy, ftabling for ten
horfcs, molt of which arc loofa places, double coach-houfe, gra-
naries, Caddie-room, and dog-kennel; alto a pigeon houfe, well
ftiseked. The houfe is at eafy diftances tram thr Duke of Rut-
land's, Lord Sefton e, and Sir Gilbert Heatheore's hunts, and will
be fold with or without the elrfe of 17 acres before mentioned.

••• For fart/sat particulars enquire of Mr. Samuel Mills, Up.
holftcrer, Stamford.

TO BE SOLD
Situate in the Eaft Riding of the County of York,

BEVERLEY PARK, Freehold Tithe, and Toll
free, and exempt from County Rates, compriling fifteen *ell
kid Finals and a capital Water Corn Mill. with LOAN* Houfes
and Outbuildings to each, and a great nnmher of Clore+ of Laud
let to fundry inhabitants of Beverley and aejoining that Townlhip.
Alfo a confidemble number of Houfes and fcveral Clofes of
Land, Gardens, and Orchards, being Freehold and fituate in Be-
verky, fame of which Honfes are fui table for the refidence of Gen-
teel tiarnilies, and many fur Mr:chants, Tradefmen, and Inn-
keepers.
Alfo feveral"Freehold and Tithe Free Farms and parcel+ of
Land, fituate within the Town UN and 'daces of Tickton; Weel,
Woodmanfey, Tbcarne, Hullbridge. and Cottinrharn.
. .

The whole of the above containing 3aijA. alt. 36P.

Alfo the Manor of Beverley Water Towns, Comprifing the
Townfhips and places of Tlckton, Wccl, W oodmanky, Thcarno
Hal'bridge, Storkhill, and Sandi°imc, in Which 21-C 2322 Act-es of
'Land Copyhcld under this Manor.
There Effaces 'abound with Game, and are in a fine Sporting
Country: Beverley is particularly aiaptei fur Genteel radence.
This Pfraperty being near the Great Mercantile Town nhd Seaport
of Hull, which has a very eateuhve Navigrbit lnlind communica-
tion, its fituattun may be deemed advantageous, not only in retpedt
to the tale of the produce, but alto for the purpores of Trade and
.ReGJeuce.

If there noes fhoula not be fold before Monday the 25th day
of February next, the Cane w:11 be fold in Lots on that abd the
two folktwing days, at the Tiger Inn, in Beverley,
Printed Particulars may be bad at the George Inn, York; the
Talbot Inn, Melton ; the Tiger bin, B..verley; the Neptune Inn,
Hull; the White Hart Inn, Lincoln ; the Hotel, Iced.,; the Angel
Inn, Perrybridge ; and of Mr. Diekinfon, Beverley Park, who will
order the Mates to be (hewn ; alfo of Meffr.. Beardfworth, I3ur-
'. ley, and Moore, Lintoln'a Inn, I.ondon i William He fledon, Eiq.
illarton.upeo-Humber.Lincolnlkire; Mt. Samuel Ilan, Attorney
at Law, Beverley; and of Mac" Leatham, Efq..Batton, near M al-
tos, Ifoltalkka, et Sham terflus 11:idealists nay be knowtd4

10 THE GENTLEMEN, CLERGY, AND FREEHOLDERS
OF THE COUNTY OF HERTFORD.
OtriTLEMIS,
rH E refillt of the Contell for the Reprefeatation
of your County has not carrel-minded with the Expedation I
bad formed from the peomifes of fupport I had received in my
Canyafs, but I was not then aware of the great Exertion of In-
fluence that would be made in oppofition to me, nor of the extent
to which that Influence could be carried.
To the Friends who hue fo generoufly fupported me, I return
my molt grateful Thar.lts ; and my acknowledgments are due
even to my Opp6nents for the very liberal manner iu which they
concluded themfelves towards me at the Hultings.
To a pyre period I confidently look forward for fume&
My reception In the County has been fuck u to claim front me
unremitted exertions to fecure its Independence. Nothing lUD
be wanting on my part ; and with better opportunities of nuk-
ing unfelt' known to the Freeholders in general, and with due
precaution that the fentiments of Individuals may nut be fore-
Railed or mifreprefaited, I flatter tnyfelf with the hope of attain..
rug the objet of my highcft ambition—that of becoming the Re-
prefentadve of the County of Hertford in Pniinnent.
have the honour to be.
With every pordble feeling of Engem and Refpcd,
Gentlemen,
Your molt obedient and bumble Servant.
The Him, rsth Feb. 18os. THO. BRAND.
TO THE GENTLEMEN,.CLERGY, AND FREEHOLDERS
OF THE COUNTY of HERTFORD.

OUNTLZInIf,
'THE iffue of thi Conteft in which we have been
engaged, has been filch as your generous exertions in fo good
a caufe entitled us to etpedt. We have obtained a fignal and do.;
lave vietory.—But, Gentlemen, this has not beat the triumph of
a mere individual, however flattering fuck a diftinetion mutt ever
be to him. It is not that your animated and pafevering effort'
have been attended with the fucccfs which they fo eminently de-
famed; hut the triumph which we have witneffed is that of con.
fiftency, in unifon with yours, of which your favourable opinion
has beat both the encouragement and the reward. It is becaufe,
in the event of thie'day, the country has ken prophetically verified
whatever was foretold in the year tfloa, that the principles by
which i was then 'Coated, and the opinions which i don laboured
to inn, have received your complete and unequivocal approba-
llon ; and that, by your invaluable fuffrages, I have again been
placed in a fituatien, the molt honeuraide to which a Citizen can
afpire, in the molt free and enlightened Nation on the Globe.
The clofe of the Poll has left me with a large and undifputed
majority, and with an afferance of a confiderable Mamie, had
the conteft been continued, as the delay and confufion of the firft
days proceedings bad oliged many Freeholders to return, and
a great accellion of strength was etpeCted at the time when my
Adverfar'; declined. The critical accuracy of my returns on the
canvas, for which I am indebted to numerous Intelligent Friends,
and my own perinea knowledge of the fade, bear me out in thcfe
alfations. The explanat ions which I have given in a former Addrefs,
would have precluded the necaLty of any details, as far as they
might refped my public conduct, or thepotives by which I have
been influenced in offering myfelf to your notice: but circumitancee
have occurred which I cannot pats by in filence, confiltently with
what I owe to you and to myfelf. A part of the fupport which
my Opponent has revived, generally much exaggerated, is
frum that body of Freeholders, under whole immediate aufpices
be has twice appeared a Candidate, abil has tveice failed. From the
Came quarter have I been as often attacked with unexampled bit-
teruev and hoftility, and Stave as :,ften Exceeded. Can there be
given a Stronger proof of die decided and irrefiftible prevalence of
popular opil.fan ? It is not nem:Wary to enlarge on the known and
avowed principles of thole Gentlemen. • But I have a right, from
experience, to fay, that they will difcard from their confidence their
prefect idol, as they hare dik trded me, unlefs he is prepared tog*
the full length of thole vifionary (chaise', which they call Reform.
But my honourable antagonilt has had a more Mufti-iota califs:to.
ray in his favour. The rat luminary of this county has indeed
atone on h a caufe, and with the fame Impartial influence which
charaderifes his Ardietype ; but alas ! with a fplendour morethan
half diminifhed—" Shorn of his beams, and with declining rays."
When fuck dikordant interests continue to be identified, what can
we think of the political morals of the County ? If any thing of an
equivocal or myfterious condud has appeared during the late can-
vas, i am anxious that, as far as I am concerned, all memory of it
may be buried in oblivion: I with to hurt the feelings of no man ;
but I cannot efface imprc Mona from the public mind, in a matter
which req u ireseli Rind ex pl anation And has ne. ver yet bee n explabetl.
Anonymous calumnies and unfair reprefentations, have too fre-
quently been reforted to as modes of attack, by the zealous pan
tisane of contending Candidates; and I Mould, indeed, have
been more fortunate than I had a right to expert, had I efcaped
the common lot of all. To Inch weapons I have oppoled, in the
face of the County, the Shield of confcious innocence, and the
challenge of corfident defiance. But the unmanly Libellers have
Strunk from the call, and have hidden their heads in obfeurity
and in fhsase. My worthy Opponent has had no Mare in there
pubLeatt,,ea be has indeed, explicitly difavowed, and cordially
reprobated them. In this he has done much more than was no-
celfary ; for a liberal mind like his can never be fuf;aedted of de-
kending to fuels pradices. And lam happy, on this public oz.-
canna, of repeating to him and to the world, that in the whole
courfe of the canvas and of the poll, he has concluded hinifeif
to rue in all refpeds with the molt perfat attention and civility,
In no inftancc departing front that charader which is known to
belong to him, the charader of a Gentleman, and a man of Reid
honour. •

In thefame public manner i balk repelled other perfonal at-
thefts, where the parties have Rood forth, and have avowed their
fentiments, with radical reproofs and fatlifeetory refutations.
Whether, in yout opinion or in theirs, I have repelled them with
complete fuezers, your mentor, will chhermthe, and the poll will
decide. I come now to a more pleating talk. In reviewing the in-
, tereas by which I have, beim repported, I peceive in the foremott
tanks nay old and long tried friends; names which mua ever
Ramp a credit on any caufe. 1 can refer to others, by whom I
have formerly been oppored, whore liserality and generous feelings
have thrown an additional (nitre round their characters, by the
exprerlion of fentiments which do honour to the human heart. I
can appeal to the enthulielni with which I have been received in
aimed every part of the County, by every defeription of Fre,hold-
eis. To this mars of rank, fortune. and independence, has been
addtd a large aecerflon of arength, from ditant and adjacent
counties. Aud why has all this been I However gratified by the
thought, I an never believe that all this affeCtion has been per-
finial to myf•lf. No: thi.ybave zonfiderad the eatire in which we
have been engaged, as thecatire of :Lir country.
But you have cholera me your Iteprefentative; and In that cha.
radtrr, whatever differences may have arifen in the cocas of the
.late Eleiftion, I am Inaund to attend to your common interelts
without dittinetlon. Yot. have 3'pp:tinted tne. however, to a higher
croft—Ca,: t ati.nial prorperity, is which we all have an Intereft, is
paramount to every local eolifideration, not by exclufion of any,bot
'by embracing all; and in this centiment is included whatever east
contribute to our indepeodattee, our glory,aud Our happiners.
Iraprefred, Gentleemin, with a juft reeked there Ineyertant dn.
ties. I will endeavour faithfully to deret,i,rge them, and to prove
ncyfdf worthy of char ecinhoeret with which I have been ho-
neared. I am, smith un:cigncd ref:peel,

Gentlerneu,
irwir o'.ll,Ted and devoted (avant,
Bayfordbury, Feu. L 2. j$ W. BAKER.

PARLI4.IIEATARr PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, FEB. is.

In the Appeal " Fairfield v. Morvan," Mr. Plume; was heard
in reply. J...tztnent polipotied until :bitchy fortnight.
'I he Earl of Rofslvo ton focceitlitig to the title, was Introduced
Ly the l ad. of Cafhiit and Limerick, and took the cuitomary
oath% 2.41 hi. feat.

he Annuli Affeffed Taxes. and Exchequer Bills,
v .r. real a Third tinit.an.ll paifrd.
sit..%kocti. front the Treafury.prefented at the Baran account
Nituttie.rrerivedfor the year 1804, and how expended, u
far as !0 Great Britain

4
The Coal F flop IndLm:•ity, and one Private Bill, wzrc
biougtit up ironi the Cornnions and read the lint time.

tARL ST. ♦fNCENT.

The Duke of CLARENCE referred to what had
riffcd tome drys ago refpeaing a Noble Eatl (St.
Vincent). He nbferved a Noble Vtfeounz prefent
Mho hod been at the head cf Adminitlration while
that N•thle Earl managed the Marine Department
cf this country. He could not, therefore, forbear
from calling on the Noble Vifcount for a declaration,
now that he had joined with the prefent Minifiers' of
the fade in which he had formerly held, and Rill
continued to hold, the condua of that gallant Com-
mander, while at the head Cif the Admiralty Board ?
His Royal H;ghnefs had known the Noble Earl for
26 years, and he felt himfelf called on to declare
both as a Peer of that Hook and a. a Naval Officer,
that he had never feen caufe to differ from the No
ble Earl but once, and that was with refpea to his
ideas on the fubjea of the late Peace. Had the con-
duet of the Nobie Earl in his Minifferial fituation be-
come the fobj:4l of difeuffion, it fhould unqueftion•
ably have met with his decided !import. He ex-
peeted, therefore, from the Noble Vifcount a can-
tiflent declaration as to the Impreffion which Rill re-
mained on his mind of the condo& of that No'ale and
refpeaable Naval
Lord Vilcount SIDMOUTH fail, that called on
as he had been by the Royal Duke, he could not re-
fill anfwering the queltion which he had condefcend-
ed to put to him. He felt no helitation, therefore,
in declaring now, as he had uniformly hitherto done,
that he highly approved of, and held in the molt per-
feft refpea, the condua of the Noble Earl both in
his fituation as a naval Commander, and as the head'
of the mann,: of this country. He would be guilty
of grofs inconfillency, and of a violation of his own
Brady fixed fentiments on the fubjeft did he not Rate
GP' and did he not declare that the Noble Earl was,
in his opinion, entitled not to the thanks only, but to
the warmeß gratitude of the country.
The Duke of CLARENCE felt pleafure in hear-
ing the confiflent declaration of the Noble Vifcount.
He Ihould not therefore trouble their Lordflaips far•
titer on the fubjca, the more particalarly as there
were other topics conneacel with 61 naval affairs of
the country to which he fhould at tome future peri-
od, not at a great (finance, feel himfelf called on to
requea the attention of their Lordlhips. There was,
however, a queßion on another fubjeft whidt he mad
put to a Noble Secretary of State, namely—lf there
was any intention on the pan of Government of
making any alteration on the Volunteer Laws?

Lord 1-IAWKESBURV did not think himfclf
called on to antirer that que(lion. If Mmiders
found it ncettrary to fubmit any thing to the Ifoufe
on the fultje& of the Volunteer Force, their rearms
for doing to wauld then be explained, and it would
be in the power of Noble Lords to put fuel) quef-
tiens, or Fropofe fuch amendations, as they may think
proper._

The LORD CHANCELLOR left the I;Conlfack,
to exptels his fentimrnts, as an individual Peer, on
the irregularity of this proceeding. He thought he
fhould not acquit himfelf in the faithful el.leharge
Of his duty, if he did not thus publicly proud
spina it.
The Duke of CLARENCE entertained great re-
(pea for the opinions of the Noble and Learned
Lord on all occations, more efpecially on a filbjett of
this nature ; but he mutt 1131 perfdl, that in the en-
quiry he made, there was nothing inconfißent with
the rules of that Houle; and he lamented that fuch
a relatance Ihould be (hewn by blinillers to remove
Its uncertainty in a matter of very conliderable im-
portahce.

OLFINCE OF THE COUNTRY.

Lord DARNLEY role to make his promifed mo-
tion; for the Repeal of the late Additional Force Bill,
which, he faid, had been found wholly inefficient for
the purpofes for uhich it was enaded. It was con-
tended, by the new Adminillration, that the Army
of Referve Bill, and all the former expedients which
their predecelfors in office had adopted, were utterly
incompetent to the purpofes they were intended to
fcrve. and the cry of alarm was vociferated through
the country. We had been told, the means of pub-
lic defence were eifregarded ; that the Nation was
espied to all the fury of a vindidive enemy; and
that thofe who then were out of office, and have fince
received the confidence of their Sovereign, were
alone able to reicue the nation from the imminent
danger to which it was expnfed. What had they
done to appeal: the general anxiety, and to fatisfy
the public e:rp 4-!atica ? Pompous declamations had
been rucceeded by the spolltion of their own inabi-
lity, and intlead of feting eitahl:ffied, for the protec-
tion of the country, a large dilpidable force, the
flu fa=ti::n cf every • rder of fiiciety had been (it...ea-
finned, all the inconveniences of a new organization
of the public fei•vie had been miirred, an:l no pnr.
tion ef that ferueity which was fa Pact:llly per-mired
had been olitained. The hopes of the people were
pccriliarly raiht,.?, from the pt:f•nal exertions which
the Right Hon. G:r•leman no. high in had
direaed to the imprt vetni.nt of the Voinntcer force
of the Cinri.re Ports, under his oun immcJia:c or-
ders. rive thonisud men were under hio command
iso that duty, parading from poll to pelt, and threat-
cling the enemy from the promontories of our coati.
If he was to capable of rendering efficient this little
army, under all the difadvantagcs he had to encoun-
ter its diteipline, it was thought, when the fame
seal was applied to the Regular Forces and the
Militia. and the great body of Volunteer auxi.
barks, the molt unbounded fuccefs muit be the
confequence. It was not neetlfary to inrehigate
into the motives of this expo Cation, or into the
wife, of this dilappointment ; all that was material
was, to afcertain the fad, that the public danger
was not removed ; that the diquirable force had not
been increafed; that Englifhmen, if not to tremble
aft home, were to be inadequate to forviino enter-
wife, and were now to lament, that .t11:7 d

taken load pretentions for real talent ; and that the •
affairs of the nation, in the molt critical hour of its '
hiltory, had been confided to iliac who were wholly 1
incapable to difcharge the public duties to which they
were appointed. In the papers before the Houfe, if
there were not palpable mitlatements, there were
items which wanted much additiimal explanation. On
one fide, 3472 men appeared to have been railed, and
yet out of there no lets that 730 had been rejeded.—
Some of the accounts were fo minute, that although
they enlarged the bulk of the documents, conduced,
in no refpealt, to magnify our hopes of the public
fafety. in one extenlive dittrid, in the year 1803,
it appeared there were ten allied to the Fencibles;
.n the fircceeding year, under the aufpices of the
Right Han. Gentleman to whom he had alluded,
there were no more than fir. Nothing could be more
unfortunate than the flotation in which Minifters had
placed thenifelves,by their idle vaunting on this migh-
ty holt of preparation : it reminded him of the groan-
ings of the mountain, and the gigantic progeny which
was expeded from its labour, and the rielleultu ma
was teen efcaping, and a fami.iar and infirudive lel-
fon vats fupplied by the ingenious fabulift to all thole
who than indulge in fuch arrogant pretenfions which
mull ever terminate in vanity and dilappointinent.
Whatever view was taken of this Winch, the ftme
conclulion mutt be drawn, that the Additional Force
Bill had wholly failed. He felt the fame refped that
others might for thole who were concerned in the
formation of this projed ; hut he mart not admit his
private fenfib:iity to obitruCl him in the fundinn he
had to difcharge as a Peer of Parliament ; and it
was under the impulfe of his duty that he moved to
repeal this Bill ; and that he declared thole who had
prepared it wholly unfit: to meet the difficulties of the
Executive Government in the prefent mills.
The LORD CHANCELLOR was reading the
words of the motion for rel-aiing the All pail:td in
the lag Sellion of Parliament, for increating the per-
manent difpnfable force, it having been found; by
experience, to have totally failed ; when
Earl CAMDEN role, and laid it in glit be, per-
haps, confidered tirnecelrary to anfwer the general
arguments cf the Noble Earl, becaufe his finn:ch was
lets an attack upon particular meafures than a gene-
ral charge of incompetency in hi, Majcay'sMinillers.
—lt was not a very happy illuilration cf the Noble
Earl's fentiments, when he reprcfented the Ipirit and
talent with which a Right Hon. Gentleman had or-
ganifed and difciplined the Cinque Port Volunteers,as
a proof of his inability to make the ne-effary arrange-
ments for the general military force of the country.
Although no conclufive argument could from that
circumllance be fupplieJ of his being adequate to
this arduous duty, it certainly afforded no dedudion
of a contrary kind. The principle, and the theory
of the Bill, he contended, were perfedly cnrreO, and
the Noble Earl had employed no reafoning, at leak
againfi the general fpirit and defign with which it was
framed. He had, indeed, made (rime remarks on its
inefficiency, which fhould not be permitted to efcape
unnoticed. Thus far he (Earl Camden) would ad-
mit, that the numbers produced by the Bill were not
fo great as were on reafonable grounds expeded. It
was, however, impoffible to proceed with the Army
of Referve Bill ; the inordinate expencc, both to indi-
viduals and the public, was an unanfwerable objec-
tion to it ; it converted the recruiting fervice into an
infirument of grievous oppreffion, and, like many
other evils, provided its own remedy, for it could
nn longer be fultained. When this was the fituation
of things, it became indifpenfably neceffary to retort
to fome other expedient, and the Bill, which was the
fuhjed of the prefent debate, was framed. It was
hoped (and that feeling had not been wholly difap-
pointed) that by its provifions all the inconveniencies
of the former Bill would be avoided, and many, if
not all, of its advantages, would be feeitred. It was
dilcoveted, that among the molt prominent difficul-
ties oldie former were the parochial burthens it oc-
eafioned. How far this ohjedinn was removed by the
prefent, was both unis erfally felt and acknowledged.
This Bill called upon the pat; iotifm of the country to
fuppott the common cattle, and aimed to make the
public virtues of individual, operate far the general
good ; it provided a channel into which local influ-
ence might dired that fapply which the exigencies of
11 the State demanded. He was happy to hate that
Gentlemen had not been inattentive to this invitation,
and the pipets on the table would vindicate them un-
der any afperlions that might be directed to reprefent
them as infenfible to the call of their country. It
fhould be recolleded that the meafure itfelf, the me-'
rit of which was now queltioned, was propounded
only as an experiment ; the former could not be pro-
fecuted, and this was adopted as a project under very
difficult and critical oh comitances. It has not yet
had fufficient time to operate, but as far as its effeEt
could, at this period, he afcertaincd, it held out that
beneficial profpea d which it would be extremely im-
politic to exclude. The Noble Lord had objeled to
the prefent Bill. but he had not propofed any other
fcheme as a fubllitute for it. It was the frequent
condition of human affairs, that only evils were prof-
fered to p., and the diferiminating mini could alone
Phew its wifdom by felating the kali evil. Had the
Army of Referve Bill been continued, it muit have
become a dead letter, it could not have been conti-
nued in operation ; and unlefs fome falutary plan
were Tainted to, the permanent force mull have
been Jecrealinon all the contingent advantages of a
large difpolable force mull heave been furrendered,
and we lirould have been, at bell, in a flare of inac-
-1
tion, where it was moil important we fliould diced
our exertions.

Lot tt SUFFOLK argued, that the incompetency
rf Atiuitie•s was apparent in ail the departments of
n, but in nothing more remarkable than
in the Bill which now had been c•mfidered. It was
moll unfair to attribute the augmentation of the army
to the Additional Force Bill ; that increafe was whol.
ly to be attributed to the meafures of the former Ad-
minittrati.•n.

)rail CAMDEN, in explanation, pointed out the
Pape: on the table, which contained the llaternent he
had made.

Lord KING was furpri:ed at the milapprehen-
fions that had gone abroad on the fubj:tt of this
bill. It was publicly avowed, that the object of this
bill was to rails men ; but the fall was, it was an
expedient of finance to raife money. It was in thi•.
deceptive way the public affair* were concluded,
and the real defign was ever to be concealed. A
Noble Earl (Camden) had intimated, that if the
prelate Bill were aboided, ai a neeelfary conCe-

queue, we mita again retort ti the balhrt. He
trotted that no fuch Icheme would be revived ;—the
bnfinefs was . of ton much confequence to be the
continued fubje4l of experiment ;—and it was high
time to introduce that complete alteration in tic
ferrite, which would afford tome protped of re-
gularity and permanence. The Bill was not only
inefficient, but these was fomething peculiarly offen.
five in the means retorted to in it to render it pro.
dative; men were not to enter the fervice from
a fair elation, from a calculation on the chances of
life ; but they were to be feduced, to he trepanned in-
to the favice. Conlidered in the light of a bill to
raife money, it had none of thofe recommendation:,
which political prudence recognizes ; it was a tar,
not upon property, but upon population. What
mutt the people fay when the Minister entered on of-
fice, with fuch high pretenflons, to terminate only in
inanity ? Intlead of vi4our and fecurity—intlead of
a force competent to the extenfive dangers and dif
ficulties of our fituatinn, they had been amufing
themfelves with catamarans, and filch idle and
whimfical attempts to deceive themfelves and the
public. If Minifters pationifed loch vain prejeas,
there was little left for the public on which to reft
their expe&ations, and hope would loon terminate in
' defpair. It had been rightly Rated by a Noble Earl
(Camden) that this seas a quellion by which the me-
rit of the prefent.Adminifiration was to be tried ;
they had been tried, and were found deficient ; and
it was a glorious triumph which might now be en-
joyed by the late Adminillration, that all the argu-
ments fo liberally employed ;Taira them, on the com-
parative merit of the prefent and the tOrnier
were inapplicable ; that this had been found nuga-
tory, while the refpelability of the public force was
alone indebted to the anterior meafures. If we were
to look to the operation of this bill in various coun-
ties, we should find in the detail the general inefti.
cieney charged upon it confirmed. In Kent it had
been very partially, and in Yorldhire it had been
wholly unprodative ; it was therefore, in a matter
of fo much confequcnce, equally a fubjeil of afionifh•
ment and mortiFication the Milliners Ihould perfe-
vere in the urea; :re. Tim fettle of the country was
decidedly againli it, and he milted the reprefenta-
fives of the country wouli concur in the general
anxiety to prevent its pernicious operation.
The Duke of CUMBERLAND fail, the rank he
held in his Majefly's army would not permit him to
be a filent auditor of a remark Mhich had efcaped
the Noble Lord who had jug fat down. It was dif
honourable to the lerrice to declare, that men were
to be trepanned into it; and lie trolled the pratice
i;t the military department would not jullify that ob-
fervation.

The Earl of WESTMORELAND faid, no cor-
re4l opinion could be formed of the Bia, of which fo
much complaint had been made, without attending
to the Rate of the country at the commencement of •
the war, and to its immediate fituatinn when the
Bill was paired. Prior to thlt event, the military
forces were very confiderably reduced, and the extra-
ordinary means that were employed to reflorethearmy
to its former eflablifhment, on the rpm: of the occa-
lion, fuddenly dried up thufe (Etrees front which
abundant fiipply might have been expeded. That
they mutt have been exhaulled was obviou<, when
Noble Lords adverted to the prodigi :us number of
men railed in a very (bolt interval. The Army of
Referve Bill railed of the Militia alone 50,cc0. In
additina to thee, 4.5,c00 were railed for more per•
manent duty ; and, in the whole, in the fltort fpace
of :5 months, ec0,00.0 individuais were united to the
national force. The unavoidable confequenee of this
fudden acceflion, was tilde exceffive bounties, the ine-
vitable confequznce of which had been truly Rated.
It became uhf lately necellary In difconrinue the ex-
pedient of the ballot ; it would neither proctue the
men, nor cmild the country bear the weight of this
fpeeiesof exaaion. Such then was the slate of the
country, and Inch were the impediments to former
plans, at the time when the prefent Bill WAS propuf-
ed : in La. the anterior projeft was no longer opera-
tive, and fume new fcheme mull be adopted.—
Then this meafure was propofed under the following
recommendations : t. It was to fulpend all ballot
ing. 2. It was to relieve the parilhes and ;ndivi•
duals under an intopportable borthen- 3. It was to
mice a body of men, better difciplined, and in greater
number, than under the former expedient. It was by
there tells the Bin ought to be examined. If it had an-
fwered any, much more if it had fulfilled all these
purpofes,Minifierswould be entitled to credit for hav-
ing propofed this mode for the banclit of the fervice.
He could by nn means agree with a Noble Lord
(Lord King) who reprefented this Pill as oppofed
to the fentiments of the country ; he trolled it hid
given much fatisfaaion : at leall of this he was con-
fident, that the former Bill, however effeklaal for a
time, had from its increafing opprefiee tendency,
cached general difcontent. The Bill now under ern-
fideration had fometimes been oppoted on conflitu-
tional grounds. He well knew the language of the I
Bill of Rights, that their fltotild be no army without
the confent of Parliament. Such, he conte:lded, were
the forces railed under this Bill ; becaufe they were
fubjefted to the Mutiny All, and were thus pi:rinti-
caliy fubjefl to the corn nail of Parliament. Tit,: t,b-
jeaion, therefore, on this ground, mini be arlco,w-
ledged to be unfounded. Whik be wurld adm;t tl:e
applgcation of every contlitutiuttal princ;ple, ht: mull
likewife attend to the pahiic fecurity, as it w.nild Ise
atfeied by the reduaion tri tile public force at the
prefent time ; and he would frankly and boldly th:-
dare the Crown was not faf,, on the bead of Ole :Ci-
vcreign.. if the force were lint provided which
the fu1.k.,1 of thi4 1311 to :acquire. If the country
had been expofed to dancer, it was bccattle this be-
neficial plan had not been e.trlier retorted to, and it
was molt unre:fonabl, to expel its immediate ope
ration in all. its extent. Time mull be allowed to

diflipate the circa ofthe former exorbitant bounties,
and to admit the country to recover from the drains
. .

by which its refources had been But
this interval was not to be unemployed. The reduc-
ed Militia was to Apply the 'Regular Ai my. and a
further fource was to be acquirea from the Army of
Referve. Then time mull he granted for the meet-
ings of the Commifliencrs of the Parifl!es ; yet be-
fore it was pollible that all the multifarious parts of
this fcheme could-be organized, it timed to be cx-
paled that the whole operation timid be difcovcr-
ed. Under thele circomdances, the fairelt way to
eltimate the progreflive importance of this Bill
would be to confider the two faa weeks as a fpcci•

men of its efficiency. The number railed within thiS
Bunt interval was 620 men, which would amount
in the cnurfe of the year to 15,000, if the future
weeks were equally produaive. It was frequently
the diladvantage of a meafute, nt itfelf conducive to
the public good, that it fo far interfered with others
that the advantage derived from it was counter-be
lanced by this interference. Such an objeainacoull
not apply to the prefect Bill ; it had been found to
oh!trudi no other fervice ; rather to co operate and
Alit, than to interrupt and oppofe. But whatever
might be the meths of the Bill now it had commenc-
ed, a reafon was given for continuing the experi-
Inert, and fume concurrence might be expected, from
the countenance that fhould be conceded by the Le.
gflature of the country. The Noble Lord who made
this motion had endeavoured to reprefent the mea-
Cure as contemptible, left from the confideration
its inherent merits and defies, than from a compara-
tive v7ew of the encomium paired upon the meaftue
by bliniflers, and the rethlt of that meafure. A
Right Hunourablte Member of his Majeßy's Coon_
ails, who WAS principally concerned in the formation
of this Bill, had been degraded for what be would
be found to defcrve molt honour ; he was refembied
to Japiter, ranging through the heavens, but thorn
of his rays, deprived of his fatellites, the companions
of his glory : it would be probably found, that the
diminution of his radiance was not from any °bleu-
ri!y in that luminary, btit from the defeelive vifion
of thofe who have furveyed it. The Noble Lord no-
ticed the trifling variation of fenliment between the
late and prefenr Chancellor of the Exchequer, which
was merely confined to the naeafures that were befk
to be purthed for the defence of the country and
controlled the geneial coincidence of their opinions
with the fuadamental differences that prevailed on the
other fide.

Earl SPENCER role for the pnrpore of fupport-
ing the 'notion of his Noble Friend. The queltion
lay in a much more narrow compafs than might be
at firll conceived. Every objedlion which had been
urged againit the Bill, vilien it was firft propofed to
their Lorcilhips—every inconvenience that was pro.
phefied to refirlt from the pairing it, appeared to
have been well founded. Should he fucceed in
ea:NH.I)4I; thole politions to the fatisfadion of their
Lordthips, he entertained the hope that he fhould
have their concurrence in fupporting the motion of
his Noble Fireod. Againll that motion he had
heard many objedicris, but very little in the fhape
of argument. The Noble Lcrd who had tall lookers
flared, that if the motion at his Noble Friend fhould
be carried, and if the orefent Bill fhould be repealed.
the conlquence would be, the re-enaaing of all thole
Bills which it repealed. This was, indeed, an ob-
jtdion of a very curious kind, and particularly fo.
as coming horn that Noble Lord, who was one of
the moll zealous and adive fuppnrters of thole very
bilis which lie now Gems difpoted to condemn. It
(buck him with confiderable forprize to hear dint
Noble Lord urge loch an objedion, when he and
every one of their Lordlhips mull recoiled the dif-
tinguifited part which the Noble Lord had taken in •
fupporting every one of thole meabires which were
inveighed againfl as abfurd and inefficient epithets,
in the propriety of which the Noble Lord teemed to
acquiefee, if the Houk was to judge from the line
of argument he had purfued. It was afked why was
the motion propoled if no fubilitute was ready to be
offered for the meafure which it went to repeal ?
His Noble Friend did not propofe the repeal of the
AEI as the only meafure.' It would be the duty of
his Majefly's Miuißers to fug,gell thole meaftwes
which flu-Mel moll effetually tend to remedy the
&reds of the Bill which it was propofed to repeal.
His Noble Friend had poilponed his motion from
time to time, in hopes that fomething of the kind
would be elfeeled, and be had done wifely iu fo
doing. The whole kingdom was in expcdation that
the Bill, which it war the objed of his Noble Friend's
motion to repeal, would have produced tome ea-
tenfive and permanent benefits, and particularly fo
as the Right Honourable Gentleman at the head
of the prefe.:t Adminillration had pledged himfelf
that meafttres fhould be taken to remedy the drat,
of the incompetence of the lalt. The prefent Bill
was the grand meafitre which was to atchieve all
that they had promiCed. It was prophecitd to them.
they were repeatedly forewarned that it would not
produce the effeds they were fo fang-dine as to taped
from it. Their continual anfwer war, 1. Let us get
rid of the balits—let uc be releafed from :hat ob-
noxious mode of recruiting—and let us try what in-
fluence can do." There was, ro be lure, fomething
very platifilde and fpecioris in that fort of argument.
But ;chat was the efre;!t of the experiment ? Why, in
Tome counties there were not a fcnre of men produced
by the exe!tion of all this influence which was to have
been In xvouslerful in its effcas. Nay, in one county,
iLat of Sti.iirg, in whi,:h a Noble Lord (the Duke of
Mantr.Ae) tea • was particularly folicitotts about the
expeliment of influence, not 1 (logic man was pro-
duced by the cTeration of the Bill. Since perfonal
in:loence, tl..or.;re.bad failed, why perfevere
in the eN re; imect ? Even were it ncy, as it could with
very I.tdc difficulty he roved, attended witfi nume-
rous and real inconveniences, why was a 'meafure
in rt.CIJ and ineffleicnt is Lica' to be fo pertinacinuf-
ly pitifueci ?As to mili•ary effeC, that from the
various drecturncs their Lnrillhips' table, would
tr to he abli,lotely null. Under another pn'rt
of view, as a bill fur money, nothing c.. 1
he mole sti.jila and ton:Oval than its operation. Pr
tax ens eliimaled acctnafing to the population, ani
it was railed no the LE:Jed interell. If it wet-
merely a why nut declare Is •
at once and r.:i‘e a Imo equal to what thole penaltim
were calcii:Jt.!d to pr..i.ince upon the comp ty
large ? He teas harpy to find, however, from the re-
:ueoi h::el b. co laid on the table, that it bar
lat.:ly got into a,bctter live of operation. It appear-el
that in the week tr(!ing the I eth infiant, it had no-
doccci 34 men, c.'t of m itich 59 had been railed it:
Lancafltire, and in in Isliddietex. The parith ofr•
cers had either been extraordinati:y fuccefsful cr
itoulually alert ; for on none tie pi tcvdilig act:
!ince die paging of the bill, had it produced mor
than 3o nien. He put to the Noble Lords whether ti
flare of the army and the bate of the country
adroit of a P.ow operation of a bill, the al
gurnent for pailiog wficit was, that it would al
immediately. His Loidlnip could fee no rear, r
fcr continuing it, and he thould be glad to h at
what arguments the Noble Lords on the oppo:,
bench fhould adduce in itipmvol it, they who e

e moll decided in their difapprobation of k when
MIA firft propofed. now were the moll forward,
wiih what confiltency he would leave it to them to
clplaitt. in maintaining the neceffity of continuing
it. The Noble Lord who had lag (poke 'had al
luded to perfons who coalefeed at pretest, who for
many years preceding had differed totally in opinion
from each other. He was glad that the Noble Lord
had made the *Hutton, although it did not appear to
come with particular grace from him, conftdering
the tenor of his late palitical conduit. In anfwer,
however, to the obfervation of the Noble Lord, he
a would fay. that whenever that Noble Lord dionld
find him, or any of the Noble Lords who ailled with
him, renouncing any profeißons they had made. or
fentintents they tittered refpetling great public trent-
a)ions. it would then be time for that Noble Lord.

(and he would freely allow him to do fo) to reproach
him or them with inconfillency. Neither he nor they
with whom he aded, had been guilty of any incon-
tinency. How the Noble Lord and Tome of his
friends could, on important points, hold at the pre-
fent moment opinions different from what they en
tertained before, be believed it would be difficult for
them to explain away. Whatever opinion he had '
held, he bad previoufly weighed =tardy and deli-
berately, and be had always ailed boldly and honeft-
ly, he trolled, upon them. As to the word coast
sing, that word which had been Co ufed and mifufed.
he &mild not hellcats to ad with thole with whom
he bad not aftually any difference of opinion, al-
though it was poffible he might have difagreed with
them on points which had long flow paffed away.—
With refped to the ad which it was propoled to re-
peal, as he could fee no benefit which refulted from
it, there was, in his opinion, no wifdnm in continu
ing that, the provitions of which mutt be altered...o.
If the mcafure had been trilling in itfelf, he would
not oppofe it, but their Lordftops mutt agree that it
was attended with great and heavy expellee. Some-
thing cue was abfolutely neceffary to be dune. and
he would be lorry if Government lhonld not do it.—
As the allied of his Noble Friend's motion was to
afford them that opportunity, it (hould have his molt
4ordial fusion.
Lord Vilcoont SIDMOUTH fad, that being thus
called on he fhould Cu far gratify Noble Lords. as at
that period to rife and deliver his fentiments on the
prefent queftion, and lie mould begin by repeating
the fubtlance of the words with which theNobleLord
had concluded. If lie at any time abandoned the fen-
'news which he had uttered on points of public and
national importance, and adopted others whieh were
centradidory to them, lie fhould allow Noble Lords
to fay, he had allied incontinently. This, the Noble
Lord teemed by anticipation, to hope he would do
that night—but he had always hitherto regulated,
and hoped be &odd ever continue to regulate his
public life by fixed principles of honour and integrity.
This, he was convinced, was the way in which he
could heft contelt his own peace of mind, and along
with it feetire public etteem and approbati.in. When
the Bill now fought to be repealed was pending in
Parliament. he had not been fo faneuine as to the
advantages to he derived from it, as tome of his No-
ble Friends, and he thought fo far as the Bill had
been tried, his fears had been but too well founded..
There was then however another Bill alto before
Parliament, for auensenting the force of the country,
and, of the two, Parliament preferred the Bill now
in queftion. He regretted that he was called on to
give an opinion in fupport of a Bill of which he con-
tinued to dileporove ; but he thought the honour and
continency of Parliament were cninmitred. not to re-
peal any of its Ala, on the ground of their being in-
effedual to the end for which they were enacted. till
their aids were folly tried. And could it be Paid
that the knowledge of the Honk on the fubjed of the
prefent al, was loch as entitled them to Lay, that it
had failed in its operation t It was raid, that it had
not redid the number of men to be mired by it within
the period it had been iq sainence. This might be,
and /et the queftion would remain--had it failed in
tech a manner as to induce Parliament completely to
pot a flop to it, and to try its tikes no farther ? One
of the clanks in the ad required penalties to be im-
Von the pariflies for not completing their quotas.
iteps, however, to this effcl had yet been taken.
There was no Paying what effed this compolfory ftep
might have in promoting the objet of the aft, and
till it was taken. it was Impable to fay. that the aft
had received the trill which it was in the contempla.
tion of Parliament it &mid receive at th,e time of
pang it. If, then efnre they flopped (bort at pre-
km without trying the eiffeft of this provifton in the
Ad, he moll be forgiven fur raying, that they would
place themfelves and Parliament in a fttuation
little becoming their dignity. He confefled he did
not like the infliding of penalties, and that the
penalties wider the former Ad had been done
away; but would it he fair to thole who had nearly
fornithed their quota of men, that (pliers who:had to-
tally failed lhould be put on a level with them ? The
principle of impeding penalties might tie improper;
but when impaled, the difpenting with them in every
ipilance was only holding out temptaii tttt s to ditto-
rint the provinons of the Ad. He admitted, that if
st were once afcertained that the Ad was inadequate
to the purpofe of raiftng the men after the compolfory
tnisittassou had been tried, that it would be unjutt to
continue it, as io that cafe it would merely degenerate
into a tilt an land. A conftderable redudion had been
made by this Al of the Supplementary Militia, to
the amount of about goon men, He bad been one of
thole who, when an additional peace ellabliffiment
was thought neeetrary. were of opinion that the Mili-
tio was the conftitutional lone in which this addition
weld with the greaten propriety be mode. He now,
however. agreed in the propriety of the tedeoftinn.
the more particnlatly on this accountrahat, not with-
6Wbi every facility given by Government to pro.
core offimrs for this department. there were at pre-
fent be hundred officers wanting to complete the
number fcr the regular eflablithed Militia. He thought
as highly of the Militia force as any man could do,
but he was of opinion that the keeping it up at prefent
to the former titan would caufe a reduction in the
voluntary foreetoo rem in proportion to be rendered
• ivffable at this moment. It was not his 'ream (peak
of the voluntary force of the country at the etpence
of that or any other department ; it was however Inch
is this country would always have to depend on as its
greaten bull and glory— the grateful and frame.
• is tribute of a free People to a free Govertopetit..-o,
Sit it had been raid. that is was not the intention of
Vas Noble Earl who moved for the repeal of dile aft;

. . . .
to repeal k without propofing tornethiat snore effect'
(nal in its Read. He fhould have been glad to hear\
what this fomething was. Was it the reßoration of
the ballot ? That was a meafure which had been trni-
vefally reprobated. Was it hya draught from the mi-
litia ? That alfo was a fubjeEt whica would require
confideration. Was it by fervice for a period to be
limited? That would not anfwer any good end. By
that very fyllem had the high bounties been created,
and to procure men in that way, fimilar temptations
mutt again be recurred to. The prefent Bill, how-
ever, he was happy to think, whatever it had done,
had done it without interfering with the other Mea-
(tires which had formerly been purfuing, and which
he himfelf hi a great meafure had recommended.—
The German Legion. The Corps of Blacks for fer-
vice in the Welt -Indies and eight Battalions to he
raifed for rank had been fet on foot by him. The
two former had been carried on to.a confiderable ex-
tent, and of the Lilt four battalions had been railed
with a degree of fuccefs which furely fornithed foffi
cient reafon for carrying it the length originally fnz-
geßed. It was not bib principle to raife altogether
on rank; not to raife inexperienced men to commands,
bat only to grant a tingle Rep of promotion at once;
this was what he thought no man could object to.—
The Noble Lord then went into a hiltory of the lion- .
Tithing Rate of the military defence of the country at
the period of fit months after the breaking out of hof-
tilities. At that time, he raid, we had an army of
Regulars. Militia, Volunteers, ire. to the amount of
800,000 men, being greater than that of any other
power in Europe. This he Rated not as claiming
merit to Martell; he was ennfcious that he had done
nothing•but his duty ; and that his exertions had been
amply kept pace with by the (pink and ardour of the
country : he only mentioned it to repel the charge of
having tailed in his duty. He concluded by repeat-
ing that, if the military objoft of the Bill could not
be acoomplithed, none would feel more llrongly than
he thould the injdllice of continuing it.
The Duke of CLARENCE to-k a very compte-
henfive view of the fubjell. He enteted into a I,•ng
detail of the Rate of the National Defence under the
late Adminifiration. He then took a view of :he de-
ficiencies in the different departments of nor force at,
home and abroad at the prefent period, which he flats
ed amounted to 86.360 men. This circumilance of
itfelf, exhibited a fine Ipecimen of the efforts of our
Hinillers, who had. in addition to i., plunged us in a
new war, at the very commencement of which they
had involved us in an at of piracy. ft was, too, fuf-
ficient to prove that we had no difpotable force what-
ever, at a period when we were engaged with a Power
whole coati extended from the mouth it the Elbe to'
Malta.—The motion had his firm fupport-
Lord MULGRAVE ohlerved that there was one'
point upon which an Illustrious Duke had dwelt with
tome force ; but, AS thole papers to which that illut.
tiious Perfnnage had referred were not upon the
table, he fhould not think it neceffary to take up their
Llrdfhips' time, or endeavour to engage their atten
tion with any comments of his upon any rinanthenti-
cated report. There was another fubjeet. however.
which had been alluded to by different Noble Lords
in the cootie of the debate, upon which he thould
take the opportunity of making a few oblervations
He Ihould not have felt himfrelf called upon to an-
fwer the infinuations which had been thrown out
agAiltft Itimfelf and other Noble Peers with whom he
nutv abed. were it not that a Noble Vikotint (Sid-
mouth) had at length enter-.d to much into the fob.
j_eet. But first. with refpeft to the motion now be.
fore their Lordlhips, he mutt ()Verve that, at a time
when the country was called upon for extra ordinary
levies, he felt it his duty to declare, that it was his
with to enforce perfonal fervice, by ballot, eon-
fcription. or any other mode that would be found
moll fulficient to accomplilh the objeCt. But con•
fidering the no:afore as one calculated to raife either
men or money, he could jthlge of it belt hy compari•
fon wi.h the other mcafures which had received fo
much commendation from other Noble Peers. In
thole alts there were fcarcely any exemptions; but in
the cafe of a poor man having a certain number of
children. and thole who were incapable (i 1 ferving and
who were not worth sool. The penalty on all ethers
who were drawn and did not terse was aol. This was
expofing every man to a fort of lottery, by which it
might be his lot to lid compelled to pay the fum of
col. and the repetition of the levying (.f Inch a pct.
nalty might it roans-cafes be grievous in the evreme.
Whereas, by the BM which their Lerdlhips were
now called upon to repeal, the penalty for nontervice
WAS divided among the inhabitants of the particular
parifh or ditlrid in which the failure of the levy bad
taken place. Unleli their Lordfhips were to adopt
a meafure of compulfor y* fervice, he thought it was'
impoffible to conceive a fyflem that would be lets
objeftionable than the prefent law. As to the ar-
gument of the probability of partiality in its exe-
cution. which had been advanced by the Noble Earl
in the blue ribbon, that would be prevented by the
parithes being taken in fuccedion by lot. Molt proba-
bly the osildnefs of the execution of that law, was a
principal reafon that it had not fucceeded in railing
• the full number of men which it was originally cal-
culated that it would. Two modes had been re-
commended for railing the neceffary complement
etmanun;muambnebedrihhe:
to.:
menrhdeer; odb fyiamth ierg:hfh ob‘tffich'eu enortsin:sf railinggt)hrat limited
iridil
certainnrailing
to obtain a higher rank in the army. He had
' been long enough in. the fervice to fee. that both of
thefe modes were highly ohjedionable ; but the latter
was Ma peculiarly fo, as it was a lavilh proportion
of tank and a meagre contribution of men. Upon the
, whole, he concluded, that the law which the Houle
, was now called upon to repeal, was not In liable to
objeilion as thole which had been recommended to
their Lordlhips' conflJeration. His Lordship then
adverted to what had fallen from other Noble peers,
reipeBing the opinions which had been entertained by
himfelf and others with whom he had lately formed
a union. When Noble Lords advanced a charge of
dereliBioo of principle, it Mould have been upon more
folid grounds. For his part, he bad never felt that he
defer ved lush an mutation : he therefore thought it
his duty to repel the imputation. He had an opinion
that Government was not fofficiently Ilrong for 1
the exigencies of the times. He confequently
'Piffled to fee thorn petroos. or rather that perfon,
in offiees who had carried the country fife through 1
times of the utmoft difficulty and danger. He then
' called upon the Noble Lords to make their charge
good if it was ia their potter to do fo ; he called upon

them to Rate tiptin what ground this intpntation was
call upon his charader„ or why the reputation of thole
with whom he aged was attempted to be leffened in
the eßeem of the Houle or of the public. If the
charge could polLbly be made good, it was fit that
tt fhould be made known to the country, that they
were no longer worthy of filling their offices. Ifany
difference of opinion Mould be dated to esill between
them on tome particular fubjed;, that was not a
fufficient ground for charging them with a d:relic-
sine of principle. He truited that there was fo much
good fenfe in Parliament and in the county •that
they would know how to appreciate their condo&
and that they would not be induced to form er-
roneous opinions upon Inch loofa infirm ttioos.-11:
was conforms that he had difctiarged his duty as a
good Alike, and as an honel and independent Mem
bet of Parliament. But he could not fuller a charge
of the nature ef that which had been laid before
their Lordltips to be advanced by one Noble Lord,
and then to be fuppurted and dwelt on by another.
without endeavouring to repel the imputaion.v. If
there limpid not be any further explanation as to
what was the caufe of Inch a charge being brought
agaiait hintreff and th .fe with v ":am he &fled, the
Hrule and the Country would no doubt Ice their
.conduit in its proper light. As there was not any
argantent urged againa the prcf:nt law which might
not have been with equal propriety advanced agatnfl
any other mcafure for the rnili•ary defence of the
country, except a plan for compultory fervice ; and,
as there I ad not been fufficienr experience of the ex-
tent of the operation of the Bill to anchorite him
confcientioutly to fay that it had not had the area
intended by the framers of that Bill, he felt it a duty
incumbent on him to fupport the law as it now Rands,
and vote againtl the motion of the Noble Lord who
had opened the debate.
Vifcount SIDMOUTH explained. He endeavour-
ed to do away tome mikonceprions refpeeting his
Dinion on the Referee Bill. He complimented the
uke of Clarence on the opinion which his Ro)al
Highnel: had advanced refpeding the diminution of
men for the Miiitia Service.

Lord GRENVILLE fupported the mo'ion. He I
replied to Lord Sidmouth, inferring from the at gu-
ments of the Noble Vifcount, and from the gii•
ment of tonfillency, that he was an enetryi to the
Additional Force Bill. In another Houle, the No.
ble Virconnt harl oppofed it ; and his Lordthip
would not believe that any change in the place of fit-
ting could have operated a change in his principles.
But, indeed, no fuch change had taken place. The
, Noble Vircount had given tip the meafure as a mili-
tary meafure, and now talked of it only as one of
revenue. The meafure was to be continued for the
fake of the fines, and not to procure recruits for the
army. Yet how unjuß, unequal, and oppreffice fuch
a meafure ! Why punith the peritites, becaufe the
artily, owing to the influence of had councils in evil
times, could not be recruited. There never was a
more oppetlfive, unequal, or oinjult meafure, than
that of die-Additional Force Bill ; nothing he had
heard that night tended to change his opinion. The
Noble Lord here went through the various
lions of the Bill, demonftrating its inefficacy, from
the Returns of Engl.tnd, Scotland, and Ir Lod.—
His Lordthip next adverted to ghat had fallen from
the Noble Lord (Malgrave) who had to pointedly
alluded to the Wite of panties. On this topic his
Lordthip laid he did not know ninny charge of del e-
lidiun having been alledged against the Noble Lord.
He could allure the Haute it was not his inten'ion to
bring charges on light grounds againfi any man. He
had ailed very long and very c •rdially with the in-
dividual alluded to by the Noble Lord who had jun
lfat down. He could not ad v. ith him now ; fur they
did not at on the fame principles. Not that he meant
that the perfon in question had abandoned his ptinci•
pies ; for he could well imagine that he retained his
principles in all the difficulty of his fouation. Yet
that friendlhip which had lublified between them, he
hoped fuhfifted (till between them. He was perf-iaded
the Right Honourable Gentleman meant well. His
ILordhip afked, in anfwer to the infinuatiun, that he
new en.operated with men from whom he had until
lately always diffeied, whole opinions he had refilled
many years. whether the N•!nle Lord had forgotten
ilia the Right Honourable Cliancellor of the Exche-
quer did himfelf form an alliance, not many years
pan, with feveral Noble and Eminent Perfans, cue a
Noble Dake (Portland), who had at one period tire-
opposed him ? But that took place in a feaflin
of great danger. The coalition with which he had
been reproached likewife took fillet in a cries of great
danger, when a formidable enemy threatened our
(bores, when unanimity was called for by Minifiers,
when the union of parties was deemed indifpenfable
to the fafety, nay, the exitlence of the nation. He
did not know that he ought to feel otherwife than
prond of fuch a connection. The individual to whom
the Noble Lord (Musgrave) had alluded (Mr. Pitt)
did propnfe to the' King the admiffion of his Friend
(Mr. Fox) with whom he was happy to ad, into the
Cabinet, as a meafure neceffary to the fafety of
the empire, being neceffary to the confolidation
of parties. His Lordthip laid, that under all there
circumflances lie was happy to ad and think with his
Noble Friends. He hoped he ihould always think
wit:, them ; he never would defect them. Did No-
ble Lords mean to fay that, becaule he could not
confcientionfly form one of an Administration that
had violated a great and faered principle of good
faith, plighted to individuals at once dillinguithed for
the fitll talents, greateft virtues. or milt fplendid
fortunes, in the kingdom, that he had deferted his
principle. ?
Lord MELVILLE raid, that what he had to rub.
mit to their Lordthips ilsould certainly he compre-
hended within a tray narrow compars, for one ex-
preffinn of his Noble Friend who had lately fat down
comprehended all he had to fly. The Noble Lord
fpoke with great propriety when he laid the Military
terwice Of the country called for a clear and decilive
fyfiem of policy.--that was his opinion alf9. It
was extremely true that the exigency of the coun-
try was more than the former force of it was equal
to, and this made Government proceed on a larger
leak than they had formely done with regard to its
Military firength ; but he was of opinion it would
be better to adietre to one fyllem until it had
been fairly tried, rather than abolifk it for the fake of
making an experiment up,m another. We had tried
a large Supplemental Militia, and that was attended
with the molt falutary courequences ; Isla the im-
portant past- of it wise that of eitatgithiug a great

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defenGve force, and then the rneafure was wife, npor
confideration of the apprehenfion of ineafion, and that
we had no continental application for our mellow,-
force ;—we wanted only fecurity at home, for which
purpore we had thus a powerful army, and the bene-
ficial effees of i' were felt. Next to till, came the
Army of Referee, for which he took no merit, ter he
was not in his Majefty's Councils when it was bright
forward, but without exception the Army of Referee
appeared in him to he one of the bell means that
could have been deviled, and it proved the truth of
the prop Ifitlon, that men once introduced into mili.
Iffy habit-, either from the love of gl .ry or other
-motives, nice become acenflomed to military etc,.
:i ms ratiht lion be brought forward to almoll anv
extent to an unlimited f:rvice out of a limited one.
&lc% was the effeS of the Artny of Referee, for out
of 37,t000 men railed under the Army (.1. Referee,
which was a limited ferei:e, no lefs tan 1 tOcoo
men weic produced, while cervices might be extent.-
cd now to any part of the world. It was though:
tight, hut he lb )uld not difcufs whether rig:.! or
wrong, to fulpead that AS, though he did not ap.
prove of that furpenfion. This other meafitre was f,
brought forward, whether worfe or better than the
Army of Referee, he Ihnuld not difcuf ; but this he
would fay, that he would not give up this Bill with.
out having fome more light before him, or without,
alJurances of fome better meafure being immediately
oi
adopted in its Read. It was a Bill which Noble Lords
laid, had produced no effect, although they raid we
had eight months experience of it. We had not, in
truth, had three months experience of it, either in
Send Ind or Ireland. He afked their Lordlhips, whe-
ther upon fo flight a trial they would part from a bill
founded on the principle of the Army of Rererveßill,
which had been ft beneficial, until experience fhould
jullify them in fo doing? He apprehended they would
not. The truth was, that this Bill was produced when
there was a great divifion of fentiment upon the fub-
jeft in Parliament, and that divifion necefrarily pervad-
ed different parts of the country, and from that caufe
the Bill had been prevented from having a fair trial.
Men's opinions, pal ions, and prejudices, had had
gteat effeft in thwarting the °hied of the Bill in dif-
ferent places where it had been endeavoured to be
carried into Execution. It was laid that we mull
have tecourfe to recruiting of the Army inflead of
that fyllem ; but that had been already tried, and ie
was found not to antwcr the purpole, in vita of
d (patch, in well as this or Bootee Inch meafore : and
he knew the great underffinding of his Nota!e F,iend
better than to think he would forego a meafure of
this kind without affording it a fair trial : he there-
fore hoped that instead of repealing this Bill, Par-
liament would have recourfe to come alterations and
improvements of it. All he afkcd was a fair trial
of the merits of the Bill. He ditruaded their
Lordlhips from too harfhly adopting a fyltem of
recruiting, for it would be very diflictilt it, fapprera
the inconveniences that would follow it. But there
was another polio on which a confiderable flow of
language had been employed, which might have been
well enough adverted to by an argumentative ifeech i
without ornament, neither was there any necellity i
fur the acrimony wh.ch appeared iit the Ipeech of the
Noble Lord to whom he alluded. It would be ab-
turd
to fay that difference of political kraiment was
a thing that made men unfit for each others' friend-
Ship; or that men could not he allowed to be acting
for the good of their country, becaufe they differed
from others who were allowed to have that good at
heart. It VAS one of the excellencies of our Coniii.
union, that men were naturally led to a diffeience
of opinion in public ; it was the fruit of ireedom of
Parliamentary Debates; this freedom nceelratily
[ produced divilions and actintonious obfervations, and
perflmal allusions, which generated a comiderable I
degree of heat ; but to fay that thole who thus mty
accidentally differ, can never an together for the
benefit of their country, was going much too far in
his opinion. Men might, from vat iout caufes oppafe
each other for a long time; might cenfure each otber. I
li;eak of each other acrimonionlly, milalo neveitha. i
left, unite in one way of thinking, and aft toge-
ther ; but if it fhould happen that thr.te who had
been from their whelk years in habits of intimacy
and cordial affeftion' waling together in public
life, lhould have a furpenfioo of their friendlbial
and predilEftions from an accident, he thought
Inch a circumflance ought not to be milde the
fubjeft of acrimonious oblervations, ftich as had
been indulged by a Noble Earl in this dr:bate.—
He, on the other hand, had rather obrerve that chola
who had long and frequently been in the habit of dif-
fering in opinion, had expreffed their tentimen,s with
confiderable heat and animofity, perhaps, fonmirnes,
towards each other, could neverthelets hod a principle
which called upon them to bury their animofity for
ever, and to unite their efforts in the fervice of their
country, and then treateach other with that sea rm. h of ,
heart and teal kindnefs which is chiefly to be found in
domeflic affeElion, but which he did Lot think nnght
to be baniflied hoot public life. He had obfereed
there things a little longer as he was an older man,
than molt of the Noble Lords he now had thelionour
of addrelfing ; he had obferved that notv.ithltandine a
good deal of apparent rancour, rec .nciliations of
this kind fometimes took effedt ; if any thing of that
kind could take place on this occafion, a good deal if
public advantage might be derived from this 46..
greffion. It was worth while for perfons dillin-
guiflsed in public life, to confider what the public
thought of there acrimonious obiervations, and how
eafy it was to doubt the fincerity of them ; to corclode
that public men were not really interested in what
they laid, when they appeared to forget it Co loon.
There exhibitions of anger and rage on the Parlia-
mentary Theatre, in which the whole public was
the audience or fpeftators, had not the happiett el.
feet in producing the bell opinion of chore who made
there exhibitions in that Houle, neither would any
Member of the Houle defend this anger any where
1 out of the Hoorfe. He therefore thought they might
treat one another like Gentlemen, and ceafe to abule
one another. When men ailed together fairly, the
world never found fault with them ; and gave them
i credit for good intentions, but Parliamentary rancour
I was a thing the public oinked. As to warmth of
debate, nothing was better; but that was not t;c
fame thing as rancour, which had always a bad el.
fea on the fpatators, who put a bad contlruaivu
upon the pratlitice of indulging it. He thus endea-
r's ured, as well as be could, to (mooch the combatants
in there matters, a praaice in which be had fome et- •
perience. He had only to add, that he timid always

with every Parliamentary Debate to be animated, but
not rancorous ;' that men might fpeak vgainli each
other with as much heat as they pleated, but dill
that they thould treat each other like Gentlemen ;
and if from accident, or any other caufe, ihofe 'who
now differed lo widely, Arnold hereafter as together,
he hoped they would think of this principle, for they,
were all young enough to benefit by this advice.
Lord HAWKESBURY laid, that even thole who
taw ohjedions to the aft ,hick it Was now proctored
to repeal, in the first iultance, and compared with
Came other fyilent, might now with the molt perfal
continency vote in favour of that which was eta-
blithed. He thought, therefore, that the charges on
that head agaitill his Noble Friend (Lord Sidmouth)
and others were totally groundlefs The meafure had
been adopted by Parliament, it had laid the balls of
a rydem for the recruiting of the army, and being
adopted, it ought to be preferved, unlefs fontething
manileflly much more advantageous could be fubfli-
tote.l in its place. Nay, though it could rank only
i•eet.nd or third hi companion of another plan, it
was better it thould be retained, than that uncertainty
and floetuation, on a matter Co important, thould pre-
vail. Betides, the Al had not got a fair trial. It
had been patted amidst much heat of patty—it was
not till November thsit it began to be aCted upon,
and even under all thefe difadvantages it had prodo•
ced a canfiderable number of men, and if it wept on
as it Ind for the lad two weeks, the number railed
&rine %%hie' was 100 each, it would in a twelve-
month produce a Loco, and that without at all inter-
feria::; with the other rn•lde of recruiting. He a :12 of
opinion that our whoic force was equal to the necef-
thy of our fituation, and that nothing was wanting
in it but that the proportion of chtporable force °mold
be increafed. He approved of the redudion of the
Militia to the old number of forty thonfand, on this
account, that it would facilitate the enlargement
of our difpofable force. The Army of Referve
bad been of the utmost utility, by fiipplying, in a
!bort time, a greater number of men than any other
meafute could have done. Experience too had
Ibewn, that the best means of fpeedily augment-
ing the general regular force was to enlist the men,
first for limited lervice, and to this fyflem the Go.
v_roment ought to acihefe. As to the entitling of
men for a limited time, he raid, that differences of
opinion prevailed among the mod intelligent officers.
The quellion had beeo attentively and impartially
weighed by Miniflers; and no Inch fatisfaaory rea-
fens to rely upon its utility had appeared as to jollity
them in retorting to it. For his nun part he was con-
vinced that it would not he attended with the advan-
tages expeaed from it. Upon the whole, he thought
that the Ad now in being thould be continued ; and
he trolled ton that the penalties it itnpofed for not
railing the men would be exalted; far if it were ima-
gined that they would not, or that the Bill would be
altogether repealed, no exertions would be made to
carry its prorifions into effe& And from this caufe,
perhaps, it had not hitherto been to fuccefsful as it
would have been, though the experience they had of
it Ihould induce the Parliament to perfevere in it. He
then adverted to the remarks of a more perfonal na•
ture which the allurions of the Noble Mover had in-
troduced. He admitted that in a Government like
thiF, difference of opinion mud cent, and that filch
differences though naturally accompanied with OCCA.
(tonal warmth or hadility, ought not to be any bar to
men concurring and ailing together for the public
good. The merits of fuch unions, however, mull
be decided by the ciicuintlancee under which they
arufe, and the motives by which they were prompted.
It was not eafy to lay down any general grounds on
which they could be judged. He would fay, however,
that if men, who had long been in the habit of friend-
'hip, confidence, and concurrence in fentiment, on
public affairs, and on fundamental points of the Con-
flitution, did happen to difagree, their re-union was
at 'raft as natural as their teparation, and could not
afford any ground of fufpician of their integrity and
conlillency. On the other hand. thofe who had
been in conflant hoftility and oppolition to each other, ,
or all public queftions, who had differed on the molt
effential principles of the Conliitution, who had op-
poled each other with no uncommon acrimony in
quellions luppered to be connetted with the very
filvation of the State, did happen to form a po-
litical Coalition' he col:Effect he thought loch a
Coalition would be mote lialile to futpicions than a
rc-union of thole who hardly ever had thought
differently, and hardly at a!! on fundamental points.
—When he few a totion fotin:d of thole who
thus had never agreed in Conitituticnal (Whines
—who had entertained filch oppofite fentiments
on a quertion of Peace or IVar ; that the one had
declared that Peace on any rearonable or honoura-
ble terms was the policy, and the other maintained
that War was the tyllem till a Peace was obtained,
which no man could have ferioufly believed to be, in
the (late of Europe which then exifted, attainable,
when thole who had formed the coalition, too, equal-
ly difagreed in their views of domellic as of fo-
reign policy, the one confidering as deadly attacks on
the liberties of the country chore precautions which
the other had fupported as etfential to the preferva-
tion of the counter--loch a coalition he thought
marked it the objea of allonifhment, if not of in-
dignation. Much hid been faid of widening the
balls of the adminifleation—but he confeffed,• that in ,
looking at the circumflances he had jug mentioned,
he could not form any expectation that filch an ar-
rangement could be permanent or ufeful. Nei-
ther could he confider coalitions with a view to form
fuch adminiStrations as at all compatible with the
principles of the contlitution. The beauty of this
government confined in the kid distribution of the
power and influence of Kings, Lords and Commons:
but a confederacy of powerful men to diaate the ad-
eniitiftration, would in effea annihilate King, Lords,
and Commons, and constitute an ariflocraticai ufur-
pation dear:waive to the balance of the Conditution.
Such, at leaft, had been the fentiments once enter-
tained of a celebrated coalition by a Noble Baron ,
on the other fide, and thole fentiments, hiving learn-
ed them from him and others, he fill retained.
Lord BUCKINGHAMSHIRE concurred in the
obectvations of his Noble Friends, and particulaily
cotoencled the prefent meafore had not received a fair
trial. He was particularly anxious tooehat it amid
be underftood that, the penalties on pantiles for not
railing their quotas would be inflicted.
The LORD CHANCELLOR left the woolfack,
and took a view of the queflion. He compared the
AEI with that by which the Army of Refcrve had been

raifed, and be contended that the former followed op 1
the fpirit of the latter, moderating its operation be
caufe it was no longer neceffary. to apply it with fo
much energy.. The principle of the Army of Referve
Aft was to raife men by impofing pecuniary penal-
ties on parithes ; the prefcnt Bill did the tame in a
much lefs degree, becaufe the Army of Reserve Aft
had done all that could be defired from it.—lndeed,
a more ufeful meafure, he was fatisfied, never had
obtained his concurrence; and happy he was to re-
fit& that all the military meafures of the incapable
rand imbecile Minitlry,as it was called, had his ma
cordial and confeientions approbation. If the pre-
fent Aft was repealed, it would only have the effeft
indeed, to repeal the only new military meafure
of the prefent Cabinet, and to revive the Army of
Refcrve Aft, that reprobated meafure of the Inca=
pable Adminitiration. He contended, that the Bill
had not had a fair trial, for how could it be ex-
peeed, that after bounties had been Co high as 601.
and 74. men would all at once be found for tat.
nor could they be f aind, if it was underttood that
the prefent Aft was to be repealed, and new mea
lures, or the old, under which bounties had been fo
high, were again to be retorted to. He begged to
be undetanod, that he entirely concurred in think.
ing, that the pecuniary penalties Ibould be enforced,
if not, that would be an argument with him for re•
pealing the Aft.
Lord DARNLEY replied, and difclaimed any
idea of perfonality in his obfervations, though he
confidcrel it a fair and proper fubjeft of remark,
that fo great a change had recently taken place in
his Majelly's Government, as that the leading mem-
ber in the late incapable Administration had now to
confpicuous a Elation, and fo great an influence in
the prefent, and that the majority of the Cabinet
Mould now be compfed of thole who had compofed
that incapsble Minitlry, which the prefent minority
in that Cabinet had to lately contributed to over-
throw.

The Haute then divided on the motion of Lord
CA6rDIO7, that the Bill (Inr repealing the Additional
Defence AEI) be trjcacd. Fur rejeCting Lord
Darnley's motion, 113, including Proxies ; for Lord
D.'s motion, 43, including Proxies. Maj rity for
Minifters, 68. Adjourned at half paft one o'clock.
A great number of the Members of the Houfe of
Commons were in the Houk of Peers, to hear the
debate. Neither Mr. Pitt hor Mr. Fox were prefent.
Lord Calllereagh, Mr. Wallace, Mr. Wm. Dundas,
and Mr. Tierney, were vet y attentive auditors. Lord
Cililereagh paid peculiar attention to the obferva-
tions on the union of ptrties.
The Pluses was in the Houfe, and frequently join-1
ed the Duke of Clarence and other Peers, in the cry
of bear! bear! at thofc paffages of the fpeeches of
Lord Melville and other ikkble Lords, who took part
in the animadverfions on the circumftances of the
union attempted to be effected Taft year Letween the
leading political parties.

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