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when, for the honour and interest of this country, an explanation was
required. The subject to which he alluded, had been spoken of in the
Core at Brussels ; it had also been widely circulated through
the imam of the French newspapers. Surely, then, the time had
coantabeis some explanation ought to be given on this great and mo-
maim
_question.
lIIIr J. NEWPORT spoke to order. When a question was about
In bewaitsd, it was not regular to enter into a debate, or make debate-
ilk d INlfflations.
TheSPRAKER h*4 the Honourable Baronet would confine him.
Oaf to the bare question, and not enter into arguments or obi*.
'widens.
air S. VIVIAN—Then I will read the letter to which I allude, mai
afterwards make my comments.
The SPEAKER.—The honourable member will see that it is ob.
visas la do general rule of asking questions, that they should be pas
as lip sal short as possible. To put a question was brmular, but k
was as arrangement that all agreed to, for the convenience of the hawk
Ivey member was so far entitled to ask a question of his Majesty%
floweement ; but it was not incumbent on the minister to whom it was
aildmel, unless he thought proper, to give an answer; but, above all,
eissesathas were to be avoided, as they might require answer, sal dew
woad be occasioned an irregular debate.
Sir R. VI VIAN would then read only the letter, unless he Ibiliebt
it necessary to explain.
The SPEAKER.—The honourable member will see that he has
fallen again into the same error. The explanation is the very thing
which involves the point of disorder.
Sir R. VIVIAN continued.—He said he had read a protocol signed
by the French Minister in England. A letter had also appeared in the
public newspsrs of the French Minister (Sebasdani) for Foreign Afairs,
dated Paris, Feb. 1, 1831.—Having noticed that letter, the question
which he wished to ask was, whether the noble lord had received official
notice of this letter ? And also whether he was officially aware of the
fact, that there were large bodies of troops at the present time assem-
bling on the north-east of France ?—(llear.)
Lord PALMERSTON said, respecting the first question he could
only as , that his Majesty's Government had certainly received from
from our Minister there, a copy of the letter to which the boo.
bad. alluded ; and, having said thus much, he trusted the house would
slink that he would be justified in not adding any thing more in answer.
(Hear hear.) For he was sure the house would bear in mind the Lwow
vsuierice that must arise to the public service, if subjects were to be filly
entered into whilst the subject was under negociation.—(Hear,
With respect to the second question, he could state it was certainly
true that a certain force was assembling on the north-east frontiers of
France, but be believed the numbers of that force had been greatly
exaggerated. He would, however, state, that his Majesty's Government
continued to receive from the Government of France, not only as re-
garded the object of this force, but on all other subjects, the most
earnest wish and desire that all intercourse between nations should
be maintained in the greatest hiendship and amity. The government
of France not only expressed these friendly wishes towards Ragland,
but gave the most positive assurances of the pacific intentions, as far
as the assembling of such force was concerned, towards all the world.—
(Hear, bear.)
WZW GAME SILLS.
Mr. FYLER wished to ask the noble marquis (Chandos) 'be-
llow it was his intention to persevere in the motion he had given le.
kiln to the Game Laws ; namely, to move the second reading of his
Sale of Game Bill.
The Marquis of CHANDOS replied, that in consequence of a noble
lord's ( Althorp's) notice on this subject, he was placed in rather an
awkward situation. He had given notice for the second reading of his
and in doing so his motive was to make such an alteration in the
Game Laws as would satisfy the country. Since then, however, the
noble lord opposite (Althorp) had expressed his intention of bringing in
a Bill on the same 'object. Such being the case be had prop.d to the
noble lord, that the Bills should be referred to a Committee up stairs;
and, therefore, before he answered the hon. member the question, he
should wish to know whether the noble lord agreed to the proposition ?
Lord ALTHORP said, after having seen the noble marquis's bill,
he considered it of that nature that left him no alternative but to bring

in a new bill, in which it certainly was his intention to persevere.
The Marquis of CHANDOS added, that he would under these eir
cumstances postpone his Bill for the present ; but if the Noble Lord's
measure were not satisfactom he should proceed with his bill (hear).
TRADE OF THE COUNTHY.
Alderman WAITH MAN then rose to bring forward his proposed
resolutions on the exports and imports of the country ; but for some
time the noise and confusion in the house rendered it impossible for the
bon. member to proceed foe more than one sentence at a time, and that
was imperfectly heard in the gallery. The hon. alderman complained
of this interruption, observing, that those members who did not desire to
hear his statements—be was aware they would be dry ones—bad better
withdraw. He had a duty to perform, and he trusted he should not
experienee;sech interruptions in the performance of it. (Hear.) Being
enabled to proceed, he observed that he bad consulted the public
documents, and he had simplified them as much as possible. The
subject he had brought before the House during the last two years.
The medulla °. be should move were founded on Add documents,
but they were intended to show that there bad been the greatest falla-
cies in those documents, as well as in the King's speeches, for many
years. They were calculated to impress on the country that our trade
and commerce bad been in the most flourishing °edition—that it had
been prospering more and more—than which nothing was more falls-
dons and false. There had been occasional—and very eseasismel—
admissions of distress in the country ; but the general ay bad beets, •
it was now, " Oh, our manufactures are increasing." Amidst, however.,
all that boast of increase, there bad been actual and increasing fallings off
in our trade. The difficulties had been increased 'by the currency and
other measures; for though all mention of the currency question was
exploded, It was admitted that it might have had some effect. His
resolutions had three objects—first, to share the increase in the official,
and the decrease in the real value of exports. To remedy the difficul-
ties, various measures bad been proposed—but he declared that, with:
out reduction of the people's burdens, there could be no remedies.—
To that result they must some at last, scheme as they would; with
their present mesas, the people could not pay thepresent amount of
taxation. Previously to coming to the details of his resolutions, he
must premise that the public accounts and documents w►re the most
extraordinary productions that he ever cast his eyes upon. His reso-
lutions would shew this fact to the attentive observer in a curious
point of view. Thus, to quote the language of the first three resolu-
tions, it appeared, " from papers laid before this house on the Sth of
April, 1830, and ordered to be reprinted on the 10th of November in
the same year, that considerable variation has takes piece in the Gadd
and real mine of British and Irish manufacture ma maw ispinsdl
from Great Britain from the year ending the Stb January, 1798, to the
year ending sth January, 1830." That " the official valuation, being
an estimate founded upon a rate of prices in the custom•boon boots,
which had ►een formed at a very remote period, and remaining with-
out variation, affords no criterion whatever of present prices, but serves
to show the increase and decrease in quantity, and the appreciation and
depreciation In price, as compared with the declared or real valise."
And that—" the following averages, formed from documents before
this House, will chew the yearly amount, with the comparative
Inman and decrease, upon so average of the repective periods
stated :

Yearly Yearly Increase Decrease
Years Average of Average of of Real of Real
ending or. 1 Real over below
....y.... Value. Value. Official. Official.
Jan.b, 1799 A x a .1
to .
22,674,252 - 37,793,736 - 16,109,482 -
Jan.*, 1803
1808 - 22,662,530 - 37,327,790 - 14,686,1118 -
- 1813 • 28,113,613 - 39,908,466 - 11,794.933 •
. 1819 - 38,177,225 - 43,791,788 - 5,615,568 -
- 1824 - 39,644,638 - 35,282,162 - --
- 1830 - 48,929,230 - 36,713,824 - • adft...— .
Thus it appeased, that the increase of real over official vale., la um,
was upwards of 15,000,0001. while, in 1804, the decrease el Mel Mew
official value was 41 millions: and In 1830 it was neer 131 9111941.
The 800. Alderman then read the 4th and 6th resolution. virially.
he said it appeared, that " upon an average of ten yea% MIN Me
sth of Jsnuary, 1814, the realvalue of the exports exuded the
value by 14,887,3711. per annum." And " that wpm the
of live years, hom 1814 to the sth Cl January, 1819, the nal walla
over racial was d,818,81131. being a dipreeladem in Ave yeemerseet
annum, 9,271.111111." These results Om@ 011 asset ex
diferenesa, NA these were what he whisil to be!—is die
and the essawy. Tbe lion. Alderman then pegleebelseeiggh deg
from the sth of J, slBl9, the real value eallbilleil "lift VP de.
dines and, fame bus so many millions_ jpeeitiam above die
°Metal, It beams maim per annum hawk; OA apes the
&map of live yea% eating tbe Ns el January, U5l. a llap As.
preciaden bad taken plese Urea that of the ma waft pan, to
the amount ef 9,875,148 per arems. That epos II Illa -averages,
six years,s ending the sth Cl Jeway, 1830, a sill ham dem&
ie bd takes plan to the ameta 0 8.912,91111 L per
That by adding dm average yea* doom of the real value=
Adel la the last five years to the mess of the bet tai reel
Is TM be seen that the &laded= Is twenty-eight adlliaillef
annum. That the highest peat et mares of the real ova the said
vales was in 1803,11 laving Increased clap 1798 from twelve to asody

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