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tifer.—Q. Did he advise her'to -quit the tottery'? A.
N0..-.-Q. How long was it since he was first acquain-
ted with her ? A. -Two months.—Q. Where did he
first see her? A. At the Opera.
Q. Did he see her any where else ? A. No.—Q.
Was he instructed by any body to enter into these
conversations ? A. No; it was purely from the sug-
gestions of his own mind.--Q. Why did the witness
eome here this night ? A. If I must answer that
question, or go to prison, why to•be sure I must an-
swer it. One of my objects was to endeavour to per-
suade Mrs. Clarke, not to persevere in those sarcastic,
cutting, and witty animadversions, that I thought
she had indulged in too freely.—Q. Was that your
only object ? A. It was one of my objects.—Q.
What was the other ? A. I certainly did not come
here with any object adverse to the illustrious Per-
sonage whose conduct is now under examination ;
and therefore I am much surprised that I have been
treated so harshly in the course of this examination.
—Q. State to the Committee what was your other
object ? A. I thought that if I could have an oppor-
tunity of seeing her to night, previous to the appoint.
ment that I have to-morrow evening, with an Agent
of the Duke of York, I might probably be able to
suggest to her the propriety of suppressing those parts
of her testimony which could have no bearing upon
the political question, but which might produce an
inveterate resentment on the part of the personages I
have before mentioned.—Q. Who was the agent of
the Duke of York, with whom you had made this
appointment? A. Mr. Lowten.—Q. What was the ob-
ject of the meeting you were to have to-morrow with
Mr. Lowten? A. The purposes I had before stated.
I had spoken to two or three Members • Colonel Gor-
don, Mr. Adam, and Colonel M'Mahon. They,
through delicacy, declined receiving my communi-
cations, but referred me to Mr. Lowten.—Q. What
did you say to Mr. Lowten, to induce him to make
an appointment with you ? A. I told him that I had
spoken to the Gentlemen that I have named, and told
them that I had very important communications to
make, in consequence of the conversation I had had
with Mrs. Clarke; that those Gentlemen had de-

clined interfering from motives of delicacy, and
that I had been referred to him. I added, that it was

impossible that any man, in four years unreserved
communication with a woman, should not have said

and done things that were not fit to meet the public
eye.—Q. What was it that you did mean to propose to
Mr. Lowten, at the meeting that you were to have with
him to-morrow ? A. I can't say exactly. It would
have depended on the circumstances of the time, and
particularly on what I should hear from Mrs. Clarke.
—He certainly had not the leatt idea of being
brought up to-night in this manner to answer ques-
tions. He by no means wished Mrs. Clarke to
smother any material evidence, but if he could per-
suade her to suppress what was not material, he
thought he would have rendered a great service, both
to her and to the illustrious personage.—Q. Was
there any other object ? A. I suppose the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer, who is a lawyer, don't wish me
to furnish evidence which might tend to criminate
myself.—Q. I wish to know if the witness declined
answering, on the ground that his answers would cri-
minate himself ? A. Certainly not. I think I have
answered very fairly.
The witness was then ordered to withdraw.
Mr. KENRICK then rose in his place to make a
statement of what he had heard respecting this last
witness. Mr. Jones, the Messenger, pointed him out
in the lobby, as he was assisting in seizing him.
When he was brought into the Vote Office • the ac-
count he there learned of him was this : Mr. Low-
ten represented him as a man whom he believed to
be out of his mind. He had for a long time teazed
Mr. Jones, the Marshal, endeavouring to persuade
him that he was a very near relation of his. He was
convinced that this Mr. Williams laid under a men-
tal derangement.
Mr. ADAM said, this Gentleman called upon him
yesterday at about five o'clock, and sent up word gene-
rally that a Gentleman wished to speak to Mr. Adam.
lie saw him, and Mr. Williams introduced himself,
and told him that he was extremely anxious to state
something to the Duke of York, which was of great
importance, upon the present business. I declined
receiving this communication, and referred him to
Mr. Lowten, if he had any important communica-
tion to make.
Colonel M'MAHON then rose, and said that he
had heard with extreme surprize, his name repeatedly
mentioned by Mrs. Clarke. He did not know that
any thing which he could say would have any ten-
dency to throw light Upon the subject under investi-
gation. The mode that he became at all acquainted
with Mrs. Clarke, was this : an anonymous letter
had been sent to the Prince of Wales, promising to
make most important communications. In conse-
quence of this letter, he called at the place appointed,
No. 14, Bedford-row, Russell square. To the wo-
man that opened the door, he shewed the letter,
and asked, was the lady of the house at home ? He
shewed the letter as his credentials, and was she‘vn
up into the parlour. There. he saw something of
what Mrs. Clarke had called the Ambassador of Mo-
rocco's papers. He saw about ten Morocco chairs,
which were round a table, at which it appeared
there had been a supper party the night before.
When he was shewn into the drawing-room, he saw a
lady to whom he was introduced as Miss Farquhar. He
shewed her the letter as his introduction, and she con-
fessed having sent that letter to the Post office. He
asked her to put down in writing what she had to com-
municate. She told him that she would communicate
nothing except personally. I told her that it was im-
possible for me to promise her an interview with so
exalted a personage, unless she would give some
clue by which I might discover Whether the com-
munications she talked of were really important or
not. She then entered into a long 4eneral conver-
sation of a most extraordinary nature. the object of it
appeared to be to set the two illustrious brothers at va-
riance. She said, that she could prove, by several let-
ters in her possession, that there was a bitter hatred on
one side. I then said to her, I believe it is to Mrs.
Clarke that I have the honour of speaking. She laughed
and said it is. Her statement shewed nothing but a dis-
position for vengeance, and a wish to stir up bad blood
between the two illustrious persbnages,which I am con-
vinced is impossible to be done. She stated, that
Mr. Adam bad called upon her, and told her, in a
firm, steady manner, that the Duke was determined
to separate from her ).but that if she would retire to
_the country, and live with pcoprietr and decorum, he

would allaw her an antitifrof 11406. ilatitni.
did accordingly retire to the country, but n/ ret dv
ing any remittances on account of the annuity, she
was absolutely driven to town, in order to endeavour
to get her arrears, and to try to have the annuity seta
tied in some more satisfactory manner. If this had
been done, his royal Highness would not hive been
troubled with hearing any thing more of .her. He
then told her that oa the sitpposttion that her state-
ment was correct and orthodox, he should not refuse
to convey any proposition that she wished to. make.
When-he delivered her proposition, he was informed
that her conduct had been so abominable, that it was
impossible to comply with her request. He then stated
that as to the communication offered to Jiiin by Mr.
Williams, it was by a letter, which he read, and de.
dined having any thing to do in the busine•is.
Colonel GORDON w:ts.then examined.
• He stated, that this morning he was told by his
servant, that a gentleman wanted particultrly to
speak to him. He bid hiS servant skew him up, and
when he came into the room, the gentleman, who
was a complete stranger to him, asked him, " Is it
to Colonel Gordon that I have the honour of speak.
ing r' He answered; "my name is Gordon ;do me
the favour of telling me yours." He said he had al-
ready told it to Mr. Adam and Colonel M‘Mahon ;
that they had declined receiving his communication,
(which he then explained to me), and said, that if I
was of the same mind with these gentlemen, of course
he had nothing further to say. I told him I was
perfectly of the same opinion with these gentlemen,
and that I did not wish to receive any communications
for the Duke of York but such as were of a military
nature. I advised Min, however, if he had any com-
munications of another nature to make, to call on Mr.
Lowten, who was agent to his Royal Highness. On
going away, he said his name was Williams.
Mr. LONG then rose and said, that as to Mr.
Dowler's appointment, he had not the least recollec-
tion of the Duke of York having applied to him upon
the occasion, or of his having recommended Mr. Dow-
let to Mr. Pitt. He remembered, in the year 1805,
he had recommended Mr. Manby of the 10th, because
there had been disputes and animosities in the Prince's
regiment, which it was supposed would never be done
away, while that Gentleman was Paymaster of that
regiment. As this, however, did not affect the moral
character of Mr. Manby, it was thought the best way
for him to retire from the regiment, and be provided
for in another manaer. He recollected perfectly that
these were the circumstances which led to his recom-
mendation of Captain Manby to the Commissariat.—
He remembered also that a Member of that House, a
Member for the county of Slime?, did interfere about
the same time for the appointment of Mr. Manby, wh,
' was, as he believed, a relation of that Gentleman.
Mr. SUMNER observed that he was very much
interested for the appointment of Mr. Manby. He
did not know what was meant by animositities in the
regiment ; his belief was, that Mr. Manby had some
way or other fallen under the displeasure of the Prince
of Wales ; and that he should not be completely op-
pressed and ruined by that displeasure, he was anxious
that he should get another employment, which was
that he had received in the Commissariat ; and he
believed that, in the discharge of the duties of the
place, he had conducted himself in the most exem-
plary manner.
Mrs. CLARKE was then called in again, and her exami-
nation was continued.

Q. What reason had you to think first that you
could raise money by commissions in the army ? A.
I always found his Royal Highness ready to oblige
one in attending to my recommendations.
Q. Did you desire Mr. Corn to burn letters and
papers he had from you, and when ? A. I did. I
think it was about the time of Lord Melville's trial.
Q. (By Mr. Ltrri.EroN). The witness has stated
that she had but 10001. per annum from the Duke of
York. Had she credit with his trades people ? A.
No.—Q. Did you state to the Duke the circumstance
of the money given in Mr. Dowler's case ? A. I
stated the whole of the case to him.
Examined by Mr. SHERIDAN.
He wished the witness to state whether she had
used her influence to get appointments not within the
military department. He should ask her for instance,
whether there had been any applications to her about
getting promotions in the Church ? A. She did not
recollect any direct applications made to-her for this,
object, except by a Dr. O'Hara; who wanted to be
made a Bishop.—Q. Had she been applied to, to
get other preferments in the Church, and by whom ?
A. She had been applied to very lately, but as she
had no longer ahy influence, she paid so little atten-
tion to those applications, that she could hardly tell
the nature of them.—Q. What was the rank of pro-
motion sought for ? A. She was not sure whether a
Bishoprick or a Deanery.—Q. Through what Chan-
nel did those applicants expect to receive their pro-
motion ? A. I suppose, through his Royal High-
ness the Duke of York. They were not aware that
I had no longer any influence in that quarter.
Q. (By the CHANCELLOIE of the EXCHEQUER). Do
you recollect the name of any Gentleman who applied
to you to get those Church promotions for others ?
A. I do remember one Gentleman,. Mr. Donow.n,
but I understand he means to deny every thing.---Q,
On whose behalf did Mr. Donovan apply ? A. I
cannnot recollect their names, but I think it-., very pro-
bable that they may be found in those letters of mine
that arc in the possession of Colonel Wrardle,—Q. Did
you ever mention the proposal of Do. O'Hara to the
Duke of York ? A. Yes, and I laid before him all
his documents.—Q. Did his Royal Highness promise
to interfere in that business ? A. Yes. He told me
that he mentioned it to slie Kin, but that it, was not
likely to be done, as tlie King, did not like the 0 in
the name.—Q. Wi;iether Dr:O'Hara specified any
particular sum, and what eJat sum was ? A. I think
that Gentleman must be 2.' friend of his, and he must
kno* better than L
Q. (By Mr. YORRE.) At )what time did Dr. O'Hara
make this application A. In 1805.
Q. (By Sir G.
of York pay sever,
WARRENDER.) Did not the Duke
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al sums besides the 10001. a-year ?
A. I-believe his ' oyal Highness paid for one landau.
—Q. No whiz, sum ? A. She could not recOUP"'"
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one.—Q. Un-/a were the amount of the dt'ts at the
time of separei.pon ?A. Someth; up. - -
ponnds.--/Z: Whether she h(
from the nuke of York, 1Y!.:
A Doef recollect any.---Q,
did she 'reside in Gloncester-i
about ',,m00 years and a half.

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