Star.
London, England, 1807-07-28 00:00:00

rte thnoteht, however, that the heft pretaratinn we
eauld m 'se was, p:ace and rtninn at home, peace in
or dependencies, but above all, peace in Ireland.—
, He' c roletee! that the word .‘ peace" in Ireland
v.onld rt, more fervice to the empire than inereafing
11 e itia by eo,e4tea wren. It would procure us
onn.,bers of realistic reeptit, that ate tow preven.
eel. +1 a vat iety of (+Wade:, from elite' :rig into our
fervice As to foreign peace, he hoped that no Nli.
Mit uld omit any favourable neporttinity that
ntieht prefent itfelf for the relloratian of it. Conti
eeting that the prefent fylle'n militated Agaitill the
elan of his Right Hon. Ft iend (Mr. Windham) which
he ,va co-Ninced was fofficient for the fnpply of our
arrey, he mull give it his operfrtion.
Ir. See•etary CANNING would certainly avail
'eiinfelf of the referve permitted by the Halloo able
Gentleman in what he had laid, with a view to irn
',refs upon his Majelly.'s Miniflers the defirahlenerc
of.peace He would not give any anfwet to what
the Hononrehle Gentleman had Paid on that head,
brit to v"iid mike tile of i'te Han •toodale Gentle_
man's trincioles, to chew "how e•toti:riiaory was his
le:atoning. lie Honomabie Getelenian•hoped there
was.nn itnlilptcoion to ti eat, tha• it was nn dereliaioti
in c astrell, nn 111;mi:tali 'n in el:. fe it. One thing
mot, be clear, however, tc the Honourable Gentle.
man, that whether the event fit aild be that we fhould
have to treat in tongue'' or in defeat, we thould put
our force on the moll relpea title fon, ing, to enable
ns to treat with dignity, upon the feeling that we
would have the means ni fairly in our hands, what•
eve' tray be the event r f the negetia•lon. Without
ftich a recut ity, we could neither accept nor offer any
piopelitions. Having to do with a power which had
fihtined all En,npe, and had now no check but what
England afforded, it was the more necelhry to make
this exertion to provide for our fafety, and how then
could it he contended, that the prefent was no evner-
gency? The Honourable Gentleman, with a cautions
logic concealed theft: flas in the beginning, and then
I,r them out at the dole, when he had Itimfell pro,-
bahly forgotten the inferences that were fo obvioufly
to he deduced lieu) them. If the Hnn. Gentleman
fait! the ,prifette-ip.iiiter y means were (efficient, he
ehfrered frnm hiS .Right Honourable Friend (NI:.
Windham) the elittt tetesahole plan was to procure
a large increafe or milittiryArezegth, but not a fuffi•
cient increafe to meet arty fucking exigency. • The
increafe under that plan was to be gradual ana ero•
gteffive, but it was not necefTary to demontuate that
it was not calculated to meet any extraordinary
emergency, for that was univerfally :Mowed. It
was very unjuttly :aimed, that the prefent plan was
levelled at that of the R.ght Honourable Gentleman,
(Mr Windham). In anfwcr to the inquiry whether
the prefent Islitsitlers hail this or any change in cr rt.
temptation when they came into t ffice, he wonld
fay, that ',hough in their former opirions of the
Right Hon. Gentleman's plan, they did not think
fnch an immediate proceeding was or would be called
for. Thengh they were not blind to the events that
may be apprehentleal, yet they did not Int efee the
extent and rapidity of the rum that had overrun the
Continent : they thought the c: ntefl might have been
continued •o the falvatinn of thole now involved in
ruin, and to the falvatinn of Europe. The plan
that was in force termed in that cafe fitfficient fur
the time ; and the example let by the late Minillers,
he meant an example of the kind always let by them,
an 9.3 mple to be avoided rather than followed, in
dtred the' relent Mieigers to allow the existing plan
to remain nod:Roared, at teal', till it thould have
had a fair trial. This was the more neeelfrry, as it
was fore lien, that if any lien Ilionld be taken fa as to
it ter fete with the Right Hon. Gentleman's plan in
the nightelt denrce, the Right Henotoabie Gentle•
nom wt old declare, as he had lince declared, that the
change mull produce failure, and walls his hands of
the conlegnence,. Ile confeffed three was an nnteil•
Inignefs to give the Right lion. Gentleman that ad-
vantage. The Right I Innunrable Gentleman woof,'
not, he was lute, deny die exigency of the ocealion ;
for evetv wend of the Right Hon. Gentleman's
(perch went to wove that exigency. The general
opinion concurred that the exigency was of the moll
tit gent natn. e, and if the I lonottrable Gtntlemail
who fordo: Lill, was of a Jiff-nett opinion, lie may
reii alThred he was tingle iii holding it. I', therefore,
the emergency did mit, it was for his Ma)efte's
Miniflets to ex mine, what meafore was bell eaten
lated to meet it, and it was for the 11. ole tai decide,
• whether or not his Islajetly's Islioilers had feleaed
the plan bet adapted for that put pie Through
the whrele of the Right Honourable Gentleman's
feerch, he had confounded two things, lac isret ler•
vice in the feele of r &relive ter vice, anti lot eign ler-
vice limply confileted. lie was flirptire i its hear
the Rie t lion. Gentleman fay, that the rae:ical mif-
take of Nable Friend's plan, was that it went In
mach to provide for foreign let vice, arguing a; if
foteign let vice mull needlatily be (-trent-rye Et vice;
he was furptifed to hear the cnmparifon that had
Lien made of emergency in the year t See, and at the
prefent period. We were now in a very odd ent Cana
lion from that in which we then we• e, in regard ro our
foreign poffeffions; we had the Cape of Gored Hope,
South America, Sicily, and that detachment 'torn
Sicily,Alexandlia, of the propriety r f tvhich,he would,
sr that moment, ;zit cno (shii to 'the cultodeof thee
places had devolved on the reedit Adminittra•ion
horn their predeet.fiors, and they mull provide fur
their fecutity. How ?by troops railed for Int eign
letvict ; not for t ffetdive lot ian let vice, but loch
troops, whore waste of ettlill nt vv (tole give Goiter:i-
ntent the power r f fending them out a the kingdom.
le the number of men requisite for gartiltuirg
reign flations in i 0.3, and the number now requifite
there was a diffetenee of at kali eo,coo. Whether
e ptefer ved f. ns to pe reel uit y, or whe
titer we preferved them fir the put ;tole or obtainiug
better tetms of peace—in eith-) cafe they mull be
kept in (tidy. Bete then wis the pl tin rea'on why
the meafure of 18..e3 wrtuld not be efficient at the
prefent day. Ame :late which railed men on the
condition that they wets not IC I.Ctilfe out or the Bri•
tifh Mends, would nit :vower the exigency of thee
prefent tnement, which led to a ;odes ence of an in-
creafe in the teguler and e:ifly !Aisle, tattier than in
the home twee. It t ern ,iced tLc. f tie only to be
confide..:!, whether it was be tiet coact ihe di
redly tot the army, bt.on the iccpliied addi•
lion by the milt other n•eans of i •pid arid fuccefs
ful levy that atiefented i•trlf. lie allowed that the
Right Hon. Gentleman's plan mud necelfarilv (idler
ft me inlet lUi.1.601:1 Airq for the cushier)