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had stated kid be lit opinion, that all
hot furnish this country with more than
strop!), of corn: Though we did then r'
doing so caused great distress to be
other parts of Europe; and it was oten
cessary to draw some from America; •
Cape of Good Hope, end we had even ,
sirable to obtain rice from India. At s
Coin Bill passed, what man believed that
happen, which in his 'conscience he believed
this moment, that a fifteen weeks supply:-
be furnished. A supply of foreign corn sufficient for
three weeks was already in the country. Could-such
a state of things have been anticipated, and had they
any evidence before them to account for what they
caw ? He considered this to arise from the number
'of hands which had been returned to agriculture at
the close of the late unprecedented war. He called
on the House to look at the question and decide
whether any prohibiting duty could meet the evil.—
He would have voted for the Resolutions of the Ho-
nourable Member for Somersetshire, but that he felt
that if carried, they could not have been maintained ;
'for though he felt that protection to that extent [night
be properly given, he knew that it would be impos-
sible to convince the Public that any distress wlAch
might arise did not spring from that cause. He wished
to secure for the landed interest a fair remunerating
price. He was
.convinced that the Noble Marquis
was sincerely anxious to relieve the.landed interest,.
and uisidered his Resolutions to be more favourable
to the agriculture of the country than some that bad
been proposed ; but he considered his measure to he
foundeJ on an erroneous calculation. The statement
which he had made with respect to the prices of corn
at o,!essa and other places, he maintained was proved
to be correct. No protecting duty would, in his
judgment, be sufficient to meet the evil. He wished
a system to be adopted which would keep the price of
co: ir steady, which bradmitting a supply of foreign
c,en when the price rose above eighty . shillings
her quarter, would prevent it• from getting too high
without allowing that unlimited importation which
might ruin the agriculture of the cpuntrp—(l-lear).
It might be ditEcult to bit on the means of etl'ecting
this, hut where such a mighty interest was at stake,
they °tight not to be deterred by such considerations
from making the attempt. The Noble Lord had said
the price of corn at Dantzic was 82s. and brought
here for 12s. its cost would be44.s. From the manly
manner in which the Noble Marquis acted on all oc-
casions, be was led to hope that if he proved his esti-
mate to be wrong, he would make some alterations ,
in his Resolutions. The Noble Lord had formed his
estimate on grain of the first quality, which would
furnish but one-fourth of the supply, and which
would sell iu England for .Is. more than the best that
could be raised in this country. The price of grain
of the second quality from all other parts (one ex-
cepted), which grain was equal to our best, gave an
average at five shillings under the price which the
Noble Lord had named. It would thus be seen that
the Noble Marquis, on his own shewing had under-
rated the protection which the landed interest of
England ought to receive by five shillings in the
quarter. From the comparisons which he (Mr. Cur-
wen) had made, he-found that wheat.of the first qua-
lity might be obtained at a price which, when on
shipboard, averaged 9.95. and one-seventh ; corn of
the next quality averaged 235. and six-sevenths. 'The '
price of our best corn averaged at present 525. one-
tenth ; the second best averaged 4.35. and three-tenths,
being a difference of 235. between the prices of the
best wheat, and 20s. between those of the wheats of
inferior quality. 'Though 65s per quarter, if it could
at ail times by got, would be a remunerating price
for wheat, since in some years it fell to 50s. he would
ask it it was more thanfairlo.alldv the English agri-
culwrist the benefit of any rise that might take place
up to eighty shillings? To allow the ports to open
at se:etity shillings would be only to allow him the
chance of an advance of five shillings over the
average remunerating price, while he was exposed to
a loss of fifteen shillings or more by its falling below it.
He admitted that it was a misfortune for the country
to have to pay a higher price for corn than was paid
in other parts, but this became necessary from the
situati.o in which: the farmer had been placed by a
calamitous depreciation of the currency, and the
raising of enormous notes by means df that :currency,
which were still to be paid now the standard was re-
stored. He sheered that corn was cheapest when its
exportation had been enoouraged, and argued that
the present distress was not the result of the firmers
folly, but sprung from other causes than over-pro-
euction. The farmer would be content to sell his
corn at a low price, if enabled to do so. Let the
'Ministers, then, take 121 per cent. from the incomes
of all connected with Government, ft oin the highest
to the lowest, and then let them call on the public
creditor to make a sacrifice for the general good, and
the landed interest would be content to do so at any
extent to which the fundholders were willing to go.
Te lion. Member for Portarlington had said, the
capital sunk in agriculture was not greater than that
employed by the manufacturers. But there was.one
point which he forgot. The manufacturer might turn
his four, five, or six times, in the course of a year,
while the poor agriculturist could turn his but once.
Since the passing of the Corn Bill, B,ooo,oooquarters
of grain had been imported, of which 1,800,000 were
wheat. In 1819, there wete 1,800,000, or he would
say 1,600,000 quarters of foreign wheat in the coun-
try. If we consumed 800,000 of these, it was as much
as we did, and consequently from 500,000 to 800,000
quarters had been thrown °rube harvest of that year,
when not a single bushel was wanted. The pressure
of this had been felt, heavily felt, ever since. He,
strongly enforced the importance of a plan like that:
which he had suggested, which would give the
Public the benefit of an adequate supply, yet pro-
tect the landed interest front that ruinous inunda-
tion which bad heretofore been expetienced.=ose
He called upon the Noble Marquis to state, whether
his calculation had not been made on the price of the-
best grain, which could only be regarded as one-
fourth of the supply, instead of placing it, as be,
ought to place it, on that with the other three-fourths
of inferior corn. If the Noble Lord said his (Mr.
Curwen's) plan could not succeed, he then called upon
him to correct the error which he had pointed out,;
And give the landed interest that protection to which,
on the shewing of the Noble Marquis himself, they,
Were clearly entitled. He spoke earnestly on this'
subject, feeling, as he slid, that itinvelved.the corn;
fon and wellbeing of-half a Million of persons wise

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hoped _
if he did nothing else. He thought, if foreign corn
were admitted without restriction, a duty of 10s.
ought to be Attached to it from 80s. to Ms. From
90s. to 100 s. a duty of five shillings should attach, but
the price could never rise so high. All he wished for
was, that protection should be afforded to the farmer,
and security to the Public.
Mr. BURRELL was disposed to prefer the plan of
die Noble Marquis, which had been proposed in the
Committee and afterwards withdrawn. If a motion
were made to raise the protecting duty on corn im-
ported for home consumption front twelve shillings
to fifteen shillings, it should have his vote. An Hon.
Gentleman opposite was willing to protect the landed
interest to the amount of the taxation they sustained.
But as to this.amount they were likely- to differ. It
had been said the taxes amounted to ten per cent.
This calculation he thought defective. He was led
to this conclusion by an extraordinary document put
into his hand, which set fottli the amount of the poor-
rates in one parish in Somerset, taken at four diffe-
rent periods within the last century. The amount
was as follows:—In 1725, £lOB. 10s. lid. in 1755,
£402. 13s. 11d. in 1785, £706. 2s. 80. and in 1821,
their amount was £3,840. This, he shewed, proved
the calculation wrong. 'He forcibly painted the mi-
sery which must enspe if relief were not given, and
thought some alteration might be made with advan-
tage in the mode of taking the averages, by including
those of Ireland in the calculation.

Mr. EASTNOR said -that no one could expect
immediate relief from the propOsitions now before
that House, and he was surprised at that not having
been kept more in view. He was disposed to sup-
port, upon principle, the Resolution of the Noble
Lord, but he did not think it quite satisfactory. He
should, however, vote for it in the Committee.

Lord CRANBORNE thought a duty of 12s. with
an additional ss. was not sufficient for the protection
of agriculture, and he had, therefore, moved in the
Committee that Bs. should be added. He confessed
that he should be disposed to get a better bargain tor
the farmers if he could, but the best he could now
do for them was to vote fur the Resolution of his
Noble Friend. •

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY wished to take
an opportunity at this period of the-debate, to address
a few words•to the Committee, upon the mode of ar-
gument adopted by the Hon. Member for Cumber-
land, at which, lie confessed, he felt considerable sur-
prise. He could not conceive how the Hon. Member
was disposed to sit down and leave the laws in such
a state as he proposed. His opinions must have un-
dergone a most extraordinary change since he was in
the Committee, and since he had been down into the
country. I he Noble Marquis then objected to the
Resolutions proposed by the Hon. Member, and con-
tended that his own went to place the law upon its
original basis, but a: the same time to modify it so
far as to remove the defects which it possessed. At
present corn would be protected up to 80s. because
the ports were to open under the old law. After that
it would be protected up to seventy by seventeen shil-
lings, and above eighty by twelve shillings. An Ho-
nourable Member had said that corn in warehouse
might be bought now at 255. or at 345. But that was
such as might not be sold for seven years to come if
the ports should not open. Its value was very likely
half gone by lying by as it had already. It was not
a marketable article, and therefore not one to argue
the protecting prices upon. But if the ports should
open, the corn in question, instead of being worth
255. or 34.5. would perhaps fetch fifty or sixty shil-
lings. They had travelled over the Continent for
the pi ices, to get at an average, and he thought the
state in which the whole of the Continent now was
warranted and demanded protection for the farmer.
The general supply from the Continent was not to be
dreaded; and indeed it wa, what they formerly con-
side, ed a matter of jealousy and fear from a reverse
motive. It wa, always doubted whether the supply
lrom the Continent would be equal to our wants,
upon occasions of great demand, owing to failure in
the crops. Under this impression, they had always
been looking at the more distant markets, and par-
ticularly to America. The Hon. Member should re-
member, that foreign corn being warehoused here,
was liable to the same f ite as had attended large
quantities at the present time ; some having been in
warehouse for three or four years. And this took
off ss. of its value for every year. It was much the
practice of Hon. Members to take the lowest prices
they could hear of, and come to the House to argue
the amount of duties upon them. .But it should be
remembered that the corn now worth 325. at Dantzic,
by any sudden demand might be raised to 355. in one
day, and in a few days to 40s. The proposition which'
he had submitted to the House would admit corn
when the price got to 70s. and if that should have
the effect of reducing the prices in three months, the
ports would again close. If their object was to shut
out foreign corn altogether, they had better resort
to the old, favourite, and shortest mode of prohibi-
tion. But that was not what they wanted. Their
.duty was to regulate the import so as to supply the
wants of the country without injury to the farmer.—
He was surprised at the proposition that had come
,from the Hon. Member far Cumberland. The best
interests of the farmer did not require a monopoly,
but that he should be able to bring his produce -into
the market upon equal and just terms. Upon these
grounds lie
-hoped the House would support his Re-
solution, which instead of being injurious to the far-
mer, was intended for his protection and,benefit.
Mr. D. UROWNE concurred with the Hon. Mem-
ber.for Cumtie?land, that the protecting price ought
to be eighty
_shillings. He considered prohibition to
be necessary, and he did so upon the best evidence
given before the Agricultural Committee. He should
not detain the Committee, but he should take another
opportunity of zoing more, into detail upon the means
which he held to be conducive to the goOd of the
country, and of av iculture.
Mr.,KOBINSON took a revive of the decline of
the commerce of France. and the sonsegaent inereace

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of Government to the restoring of our commerce.--
That it was that must restore the 'prices, apd afford
relief to agriculture. expres,sed his favourable
disposition towards a free trade, is far as such Orin-
ciples could be adopted.
Mr. LOCKHART said, that something which he
had heard from the Noble Lord had fdled 'him with
dismay, and mist have the same effect Von the Agt '-
cultural world. The. Noble Lord stated, that itt'
making his calculation upon the amount of the pro-
tecting duties, he had turned the scale in favour of
the agriculturist of this country.
The Marquis of LONDONIAERRYobserved that
what he had said was that, in calculating the scale of
duties, whenever he had adifficulty in computing the
averages he had turned the scale in favour of the
agriculturists.

Mr. LOCKHART said, that was precisely the.
way in which. he understood the Noble Lora. hat
he contended that the Noble Lord ought to have some
greater consideration to the distress that existed. He
denied that the Noble Lord had made his calculationi
fairly, when he calculated upon the average.price of
corn. He was sure that the agricultural interests
must be relieved. or the public credit would not re-
main secure. He denied that the land of the coun-
try was mottgaged, any further than the operation
of the land-tax or the window-tax upon it. If any
panics were to claim the land under any other autho-
rity than an Act of Parliament, he should be dis-
posed to reply to them in the language of an auclent
.people, " Come and take it ;" and he.should feel him-
self called upon to repel them as he would repel the
•
Invasion of the most hostile enemy that ever invaded
a nation—(Hear).—He hoped, however, that the Go-
vernment would prevent matters from coming to this
dreadful extremity. The only method, in his opinion,
was a reduction of taxation. He did not mean such
a reduction as would injure the public credit. He
would advise the Noble Lord to give such protection
to the farmers as they believed would protect them,
or they might be driven to act like men who saw ruin
before their eyes.
Sir C. BURRELL was not disposed to give pro-
tection to agriculture beyond what was just to the
other interests of the country ; but he had always seen,
that in proportion as agriculture flourished the other
interests were also prosperous. He thought, there-
fore, that to support agriculture would be to support
the country, and he should vote for the Resolution
of the -Noble Lord.

Sir HUSSEY VIVIAN declared himself not to be
one of those who considered taxation as the cause of
the existing distress. He believed that if there had
not been a tax upon the Statute Book, the distress
would have arisen under the other circumstances of
the times. If taxation were the cause of distress he
was quite sure that he heard no proposal at, all cal-
culated to relieve it, excepting, of course, the extra-
vagant proposition of the Hon. Member for York,
which went to commit such an injustice_ upon the
fundholder. He desired not to be understood as
being• against the farmer, but he considered the ma-
nufacturing interests as much entitled to protection
as the ,agricultural. He should vote for the Resolu-
tion of the Noble Lord, and he hoped the House
would come to a decision that might afford relief,
and allay the fever which disturbed the country.
Sir J. SHELLEY was of opinion .that, upon the
whole, the plan of the. Noble Marquis would do a
great deal of goad. He did not consider the propo-
sition of his Hon. Friend, the Member for Cumber-
land, would be found practicable. The Hon. Mem
ber for Portarlington had calculated Isis plan upon
the taxes of the farmer amounting to 10 per cent.
upon the nroduce, including the Poor-rates. Now he
could inform the Hon. Member, that in some parts
of Essex the Poor-rates were 12 or 14 per cent. with-
out any rent at all.
Mr. C. SMITH hoped that the House would that
night come to such a decision as would give relief
to the country.
Mr. W HITMO.RE believed superabundance to be
the cause of distress, but did not mean to say by that
that abundance was at all times an evil. He consi-
dered that a high price necessarily tended to an in-
crease in the cost of production.; and that cost was
now the same as it had been during the war, although
the price of the produce itself had fallen. These high
prices during the war had misled the farmer, and in-
duced him to make an improvident bargain with his
landlord, and to make all his other calculations of
expenditure to correspond with those high prices. He
therefore was of opinion that any raising of the price
by artifical means was highly injurious to the farmer,
and in its consequences not less so to the landlord.—
When the fall took place the labourer was not bene-
fitted by it, as the price of labour was reduced to
correspond with that of provisions. For these reasons
be objected altogether to the proposition of the Noble
Marquis: indeed, he was persuaded that the proposed
duty could not be carried into effect. The plan of his
Hon. Friend (Mr. Ricardo) was attended by the same
difficulty ; but as the difficulty was less in degree, he
should favour the proposition of his Hon. Friend:
Mr. WESTERN said, that the more he attended
to the debates on this subject the more he was satis-
fied he had come to a right conclusion upon it; and
that Parliament Gould not legislate upon it at present
with any hope of advantage. No one Member who
had delivered his sentiments was perfectly satisfied
with any one of the propositions. This indeed he
(Mr. Western) could readily account for, because he
conceived that the premises of those Hon. Members
led to the very conclusion he had formed. It had
been said, that every European country had at pre-
sent a redundancy of produce; but if this was the
fact, was not permanent legislation for so temporary
a circumstance inconsistent with .every rule of sound
policy? As for the Estimates which had been formed
by the Agricultural Committee as to the prices of
foreign produce, it should be recollected that these
Estimates were made with reference to a depreciated
currency; and it was therefore erroneous as well as
unfair to proceed on such a calculation. He would,

House
/timber for Cot to Castle
.(Mr..l3linkes), and pan,* before they had fully omile
themselves masters of this important subject. Con;.
forming to that advice, and believing that we could
not legislate on the Subject With effect, he should glie
his decided negative to every one of the propositioAs:
Mr. Alderman HEYGA fE thought the plan of
the Noble Marquis would increase the distress of the
Agriculturists. Much stress had been laid upon the
Argument as to a trade, and be (the Alderman)
Would have no objection whatever to such a trade;
.provided other nations adopted the arrangement; and
provided this nation were tree from debt and taw
He should not hate offered himself to the House; hag
It not been for the . statement of the Noble Marquil
•that 765. would be a protecting price for the English
grower. On the whole. he was inchiced to support
-the plan of the Honourable Member for Cumberland
(Mr. Curwen);
Sir W. CUNNINGHAM addressed the House, but
was almost inaudible from the incessant call for the
qUestion. He was only heard to say that the House
was premature in attempting so soon to legislate
upon the subject.
Mr. RICAItDO rose amidst loud cries of " Oise
Lion I" He assured the House lie had to offer but one
observation, with. a view of setting right the Honourz
able Member for Essex (Mr. Western). The Hon: •
Member had stated that the estimates of the price of
foreign corn had been made with reference to a depre-
ciated currency. That assertion he (Mr. Ricardo)
positively denied—(Hear,. hear). The difference in
the currency had nit been overlooked, and bad been
guarded against in the making of these estimates.
There was DOW a call of " Question" from all parts of the
House! Strangers were ordered to withdraw.

During the time strangers were excluded, several divisioni
ensued, and the Amendments were negatived.
The last division was upon the Marquis of Losnoxasnav'd
Resolution, that " The Duties do cease and determine." The
numbers were—
Ayes -
Noes -

218
56

Majority - -
When the Gallery was opened, the Committee were found hi
discussion upon the other e'
solutions fur regulating the ware-
housing of corn, and imposing new duties. Several were agreed
to.witkont a division; and the Noble Marquis said, h was not
his intention, with reference to his second Resolution, to make
any proposition upon grinding foreign corn in warehouses, foe
the purpose of exportation.
The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be
received to.morrow.—Adjourned at Ihlf-past Twelve o'Clock;

LIST OF THE MINORITY
Irmo Tom Pea um THOMAS Limiampoe's PROPOSITIONS TO mace
• PERIIANRNT DUTY ON Tilt IMPORT OP WHEAT OF 355. AFTRIt
THE PRIOR SHALL RUC TO Fl 3. PER. QUARTER, AND ON OTHER!
.ALTIOLES OF GRAIN AND PRODUCE IN PROPORTION.
Bastard, J. Fane, J. O'Callaghan, Ccdonsl
Browne, Rt. lin. D. Harvey, Sir E. Stanhope, Hon; J.
Browne, —, jun. Hudson, H. Shelley, Sir J.
Gkandos, Marquis of Jocelyn, Hon. J. Shiffner, Sir 0;
Chichester, A. King. Sir J. D. Wemyss, J.
Curteis, F J. Leigh, J. H. Wells, J.
Cotterell, Sir J. G. Lockhart, J.
nuncios, C. Milbank, M.
-Drummond, J. Nugent, Sir G.

SLLL6II,.
Lethbridge, Sir 7`.

In another column of our Paper will be found are
Advertisement, announcing the Annual Spring Meet-
ing of the'Scottish Hospital, to be held to-morrow, the
Ilth inst. at the 'Freemasons' Tavern, in G: eat Queem•
street, his Royal Highness the Duke of CL A HENCE 'id
the Chair. We sincerely hope the attendance upon
that occasion will be numerous and respectable, as
the object is extensive and praiseworthy. The Charity
is one of the most ancient in London: it was esta-
blished by a few private individuals shortly after the
Accession of King JANf ES I. afterwards incorporated
by Royal Charter of King CHA RLES 11. and le-incor-
porated by his late revered MAJESTY, in 1775, for
the relief of the Industrious Poor of Scotland, resi-
dent in this large Metropolis and its immediate neigh.
bourhood, who have not acquired any parochial set-
tlement. The late Genet al MELVILLE, the first and
only Governor-in-Chief rit all the West India Islands
ceded by France to Great Britain in 17G3, and the
oldest General but one in the British service, was, till
his death, on the 29th of August, 1809, a zealous
supporter of the Scottish Hospital, and the founder•of
its Spring Meeting,of which the present is the Thirty-
second Anniversary. A nephew of the late gallant
and benevolent General is cne of the Stewards of the
day. At present there ate about three hundred poor
objects relieved every month by this Institution ; and
during .the last year passages to Scotland. have been
provided, at the Society's expense, for 352 persons,
with their wives and families.

. Yesterday evening the Friends and Supporters of
the Institution for Educating and Clothing the Chil-
dren of Poor Catholics in St. Giles's and its vicinity;
and providing an Asylum for the entire maintenance
,of :Destitute Female Orphans, met at the Freemasons
Tavern, to celebrate their Anniversary. Nearly 200
.persons sat down to dinner about six o'clock, his
.Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex in the Chair,
supported on the riBht hand by the Duke of NonroLK,
and on the left by the Portuguese Minister : there
were also present Lord STOURTON, Lord NUGENTi
Earl Of &BUNTON, Sir JOHN DoYLE, Sir THOId.AS
CONSTABLE, and several other'persons of distinction.
The Report of the Institution presented a most flat
tering account of the exertions of the Society during
the past year. After the Report was read, the chil-
dren, who were so numerous that the room was almost
filled to suffocation, were led in by the Stewards,
while the band played slow mmic, and their clean
and wholesome appearance excited great admiration.
A handsome collection was made by the cuinpany.
RICHMOND HOLISM—This venerable fragment of
the ancient Palace of Whitehall, which has been ;so
long in the faMily of the Duke of RICHMOND, and
which reverted, to the Crown on the death of the late
Duke, has been within the last week sold in lots as
old building materials. The very decayed state of
the structure in all its parts has fur the last sit years
rendered it quite uninhabitable; and the prices at
which the lots sold, proved the little estimation in •
which They:were held by the persons who became pur•+
chasers. The workmen ake now gradually remotins
1 the materials:

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di that thi oroteetiOa Avis auk become ',invert, Sind the ruon.of f:atWrivapoth country in ilia .present state Vit was inkonistbirt ivitl, dii-sifetytot
Mast r out 0 cultivation. Some of the most course of the smaiikan war; and theie which tollosce4 ; the country:t and that it was inipossible for es to re- -
luctive and, too, would go out of cultivation even with Frater, tolhe year 1181, wo were ein expottp gislate while we 'were in %licit d situation. The .
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:at county which had been so well characterised Jag country
Id Lady Townsend, who being asked what was of Sioini-instead of 'Wog an importing Pamphlet which had been
one. This we cons** to be, in Coniequeaparof tit* abi.e Member foefortnfing
Post remarkable thing she had seen in Norfolk, injury dpne to our.coMtnerce by the war. After tbi Western) out in his opinion, lend proved; as he had
ed, the most extraordinary sight was two rib- year 1784, when the Commerce of the country again said, that the premises of the Hon. Member led to.his
fighting for one blade of grass—(A laugh )._He became active, we again became an importing toms: conclusions. He would only intreat the House to, Lif
d the Noble Lord would extend his Resolutions, try of grain. He would, therefore, call-the attention take the advice of the Hon. Member for Code Castle
: did nothing else. He thought, if foreign corn of Government to the restoring of-our commerce.--..(Mr..l3inlces), and patie.e before they had fully made . 1, r
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admitted without restriction, a duty of lOs. That it was ,that must restore the prices, and afford themselves masters Cif this important subject. Com;
it to be Attached to it from 80s. to Ms. From relief to agriculture. lie uptes,sed his favourable formins to that advice, and believing that weal*
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to 100 s. a duty pf five shillings should attach, but disposition towards a free trade, is far as such Orin- not legislate on the Subject with effect, he should give
mice could never rise so high. All he wished for ciples could be adopted. his decided negative to every one of the propo.itious: t
that protection should be afforded to the farmer, Mr. LOCKHART said, that something which he Mr. Alderman HEYGA fE thought the plan of t
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secunty to the Public. . had heard from the Noble Lord had filled 'hint with the Noble Marquis would increase the distress of the
r. BURRELL was disposed to prefer the plan of dismay, and must have the same erect von the nil- agriculturists. Much stress had been laid upon the
loble Marquis, which had been proposed in the cultural world. The. Noble Lsrd stated, that in argument as to a free trade, and be (the I Alderman)
mittee and afterwards withdrawn. If a motion making his calculation upon the amount of the pro- would have no objection whatever to such a trade;
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made to raise the protecting duty on corn im- tecting duties, he•had turned the scale in favour of
.provided other nations adopted the arrangement; and ; 5
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,:1 for home consumption from twelve shillings the agriculturist of this country. provided this nation were tree from debt and
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teen shillings, it should have his vote. An Hon. The Marquis of WNDONIAERRYobserved that He should not haienffered himself to the House; had . 1
Leman opposite was willing to protect the landed what he had said was that, in calculating the scale of it not been for the
.statement of the Noble Magni' i
sst to the amount of the taxation they sustained, duties, whenever he had a difficulty. in computing the that 76i. would be a protecting price for the English I •
is to this.amount they were likely_ to differ. It averages he had turned the scale in favour of the grower. On the whole, he was induced to support
been said the taxes amounted to ten per cent. agriculturists. -the plan of the Honourable Member for Cumberland calculation he thought defective. He was led Mr. .LOCKHART said, that was precisely the (Mr. Curwen). 1
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IS conclusion by an extraordinary document put way in which he understood the Nob
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