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TO PF. t 01.1) RV PRIVATE CONTRACT,
THE PERPETUAL ADVOWSON and Nei(
Preaatation to • very eligible Living In time Cooney of
Oxford.—For particulars apply to Mr. Tyndale, Selkitor, Us-
mattes lon Fields.

PA RL IA MENTARr PBCCEED INGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, MARCH IT.

in the Appeal from Scotland. Clara e. the Earl of Wernyfs.
Ills.. Adam was hard oo behalf of the appellant—After whit* the
further moilderatioo was pedponed till to-morrow.
The farther Buren of the cafe, Eating • the 'aft India Com•
pany, was, on the motion of Lord ELDON. Bred for Turfday
Wod the further ecedderatioe of the appeal, the Counters Dowager
of !Jacobs and others is the Dubs of Neweartlc and others, de-
terred till Wedneiday.
The Amuican Treaty BM, the Wool Paportadon Bill, the
Mutiny Bill, the linglifh and Irith Militia Bills, the Militia Su-
haiterris 818, the Militia Adjutants Bill, and the Scots Bankrupt
were read a 41104 dew and paffed, and i Merrage ordered to
the Houle decanters* to acquaint them therewith. *.t
Mr. 67 vvvvv , frees she Pelt Mite, premed an Account
or the Balsams In the bawls of Deputy Poll:natters, on the jth of
. january, sloe, which was ordered to He on the table.
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I OICLARATOILV BILL.
Lord ELDON rote to make tome obrerrat ions on the 8111 width
callettlia Hoofs yetterdry. He laid, he bad clearly underling.,
that Whig proolke Amid apt be adopted in that Bin, that mbar
Ihnuid hiss hass Inhaltuted In their lead. He thought
It winillhavo boon prelelard. that witneaks in all Common Law
Calves might deer tes qpindikes aping. Which they could demur
In a alert of Equity. lie was as much convinced a. cats, that a
provider of that kind wart needkry.
Tao LORD CHANCELLOR kid, he was fully perfuaded
that thole provikes were wholly 'motet Cary. He contended,
urethan wan no Stereos between the roles of ableace in Courts
el Bemis and Courts of Common Law, and that the Judges in
.the lausr Courts were bound to pros& witasEsto ererd
evidence, in the Cann manlier as if they fat in DM* of E.raer
Lord ELDON, in reply. contended, drit Mpg were not able
to determine what queftleaswitamille silk. Weal& Mot, to be
compelled to anfwer ; beasts It tonstespolikk for them to know
lb, private fecliolls of lek=shoodo. hew far the anfwers they
Mould sake might seed
The LORD CHANClLLOllmateteed thst the Judges might
veerede a difcretion which nest sewer the peer& II soy pew
-vtfo. The 111 Is lestian woe oar In weather Hauferand it It
was tons4eepp/isabp IhaLawspeilihtee to subs asp peados
in It, their ,Larillhips wishh ban seethes oppseasaity a Mks&
[lle rUbjta.
Here the converfation ended
• Lod ILDON Worsted the Heakthat he apeald deliver his
opinion tektite Cubit& of s akin aspie by the Dube of Clarence
to vetoes as togaPentr. whenever** ins thettli be 411cullba is
R Ceselltese atPtielkette. ' • '
The Mama Ma bang tend la thele Ibies,the Heats mates.
od till to-morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS'
A Return was pretested from the Pr*, Candi of the Ihnober
of Men railed under the Defence Ai ~Ain dap who
were deeharged, and alto tboCis who wineweeed for road hooks
.—oettered to be ess the table, well to hi rod-
Mr. DICKENS, In the Hon. !Mow!. Mr. C.
Tole, took occufion to poftpoeelbleaserp sae awls" of a motion
relative to India, which tile Hon. Friend had onneeweed his inten-
tion of belniteei forward this day.
Mr. BURD(O4 role, purfusnt to andee.la liehmh alprepeition
ot grist and genera Importance. and parldedisly a tbit psmar
elites of the community. It srusbnesiustla Ib
tit arm
neeellary to &Rentals, and to Sasellaina leads forsegoeses
Madwoman of Cords, for In ar of the Irma fs& an
arrase Mt, the public, and . *din, wad Ignorant,
were to the grace. frauds end Ite4pl. To remedy
fuels i=".:as the doled Ode mesfusetha had dem& It kW duty
to brherfeeward. The Hon. Member Illialudedwith moving for
leave a
-rati is a RIR far tbabattarrespalkatogiassidanavr
.

of oak he ierne.—Leseci gees. .
Mr. Boman reacted et the lier en Aeconnt er the Peeelpe
and &Tonle the Pok Dike Deportment osi tbe stb of Jumerp,
teed a end Mr. Vrank/yo probated ea Aeatuot treat the Coen
demon of Came, of the Arrears sed Balance doe by Col-
were ordered to lie en the Table, and the latter
.I.o4:Stetwirre Lords informed the Hoare of their
ergot so the Seats Bankrupt Bill, the American
TITSTiosi Amebas Wool Bills; the frith and Eighth MI-
Ike oed gettillgi, and Adjutants and Subalterns Mew-
Oi
wiewl. qw the eaudea of Mr. VANSITTART, that an Ac-
count Ihedille big Wens the Hoek of the amount of Intereft
asseidek yes huh I:chequer Dille as are to be paid off In the
Yeer 14106. end the Right Hon. Gentleman gave notice, that be
would wore a Vote upon this Mated in the Commie.. le Supply
pon
nSMir JOIN ANDERSON prefented s Petidon from the Tra-
tees of Bethlem Hofpital, praying Parliamentary ald.--Referred
tom Select Committee.
The Ten and a Half Millions Exchequer Bills MI, wed the
One and a Half Minim Embegaer Bills IMI. wire Overeat
committed, and ti. Reports were ordered to be brought up on
Mooday.
The Excite Continuance Bill, the Cu Rome Continuance Bill,and
the Felons Traufportatlon Bill, were reported, and ordered to be
read a third time on Monday.
DUBLIN PAVING AND LIGHTING JILL.
The Houfe refolved into a Committee on the Dubile
Ditl,lo whiehfome eonverfadeo took plate betwo is Mr.C.
Mr. Vedittatt, Mr. J Loweebe. Lord de Disquiet% ask r.
Ormiby. The two letter oppefed the BM as unjuft id weed(
Lary, and the former &tenth:elk
Lord DS BLAQUIERE was alarmed et the idea of a jab, GM
of that deception he conceived ibis BBL The Noble Loden?
no neceffity for granting t -03 col. to the Lord Lientenet Ihr
Paving the Streets of Dahlia. is a Beller tom hod been pried
ha Sefriena, not one OtlUing of which had yet been expand...
thi the contrary, Lord Hardwicke refilled to grant any pert of
that ram to the Paving Corporation, although repeatedly relladltd
end Implored to do fo (e /we) But infield of nemplyieg Midi
that requelt, the Noble Lord thought proper to furpend, and dery
with malpradtkes, that rtipedtable Board, of which he (Len! D.)
hid been e Member upwards of twenty years.
Mr. joHN LATo OCHE jußibed the conded of Lord Hard-
"riche, who very properly declined to grant any part of the
rublic money to the Paving Board, while it Rood charged with
the moll ferlous rnalverfatioo—with having mifepplicd the funds
u-,9, which they were cntrutted, and particularly while their
..11edied mifeenduet was undergoing an InyeftlgationP Upon
that rviconduet be would not then make •ny remark, bat salt
Til,tit the refute of the Inquiry refrain It ibould be laid been
Parliament.
The clasfes wire arced to—The Houle refueled, and the Re-
tort ordered to be received on Monday.
SCOTS T .IIFYILTBD IST•TIS.
Sir J. SINCLAIR moved that there be laid before the Houk
3{l Account of all Grants already made out of the korfeited Eames
_ . .

to Sentland.--urocrcu.
Alio for an Account of all Balances arifing from the fald Eftates,
~,th the intereft due thereon, and the werluns to whore hands the
'ante arc.—Ordered.
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I!IDIA•
Mr. HUDLESTON was about to bring forward a motion for

Payers, when
Hie SPEAKER informed him, that he underftood it now to
be fettled by the Houle, till they fbould Inftnict him othcrwifc,
that notice of all motions for pro.tuction of Papers, meft be given,
racer in the following cafes t—ift, Where annual or either
Rory accounts were to be moved for; idly, Where any of his
N 4 Miles Minifters moved (or papers on the public fereke; and,
Idly. Where soy papers were moved for of which premonition
had been made to the Department by which the produCtion was
to be made, and noobjettinn was made. Beyond click be under-
lined it to be the role at the Houk that a notice was noeigary.
Af-er tome explanation, Mr. HUDLESTON gave melee of •
motion for Tseday, for Papers relative to the Affairs of Oude.
Mr. W. SMITH brought up the Report of the Committee to
whom the Petition of Merin. ChainVeft and Cowie was referred,
v:•izh w,e ordered to lie on the table and to be printed.
Commi 'molest or MILITARY lAQ:IR Y.
t,t, rriv r Oflicer pretested the Flrft Report of the Commif-
ri nt I•l4nt.lry Inquiry, which was ordered to lie on tee table
.1,1 to be 14:Lk:xi..

times or tar evootr.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCITECtVER
gave notice, that on Fi iday next he would move for
the Houfg refolving itfelf into a Committee. tu coo•
Eider of the Ways and Means which he fhould fubroit
Ibe them of providing the (applies neceffary for the
fervice of The prefent year.
Mr. ROSE confidered it as unufual to bring for-
ward the Ways and Means befpre all the climates of
the ar had been voted by the Houfe. At prefent '
the Houfe were fill ignorant of the military climates
for the year.
Mr. VANSITTART replied, that though the No.
Isle Lord meant to bring forward his view of the,
Ways and Means on that day, yet he would not move
that they fhould be voted by the Houfe (till the elli•
mates of the year were voted. . •
Mr. ROSE lilt could not help thinking it irregu-
lar, that the Ways and Means fhould be lilted hefore
the country knew what its expences would be. •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQVER.
replied that the Hon. Member would hate it in his
'pewee to urge his oblation when his motion thonld
be lubmitted to the Houle.
TIRIATINO ACT •111/11117011111T 711.1..
Mr. TIERNEY then moved the order of the
day for the (econd reading of the Bill for explain-
ing and amending. the Treating A& The speak=
being put,
Mr. FULLER role to opprsfe the Bill. Hellif
approved of it entirely. beeaule it went to diefranchife
many of.thofe eleetora who fent him to that Houfe.
In the county of Suffer. which he had thelonoureo
reprefent, Come of the elators were eighty miles dif-
tant from the place of elation, and it wae.not..to be
ftippored, that many of the Smaller -freeholders could
come from fah a Mance at their own expence.—
This Bill would therefore in drat. fay to fuch men,
a You full not exercife that elellion franchife which
you poffefs." It would place them in the fituation of
'cantatas, bind would 'dell from their' lipwl the' cup.
though it were only of water, which they-enjoyed
but once in (even years.
Mr. MORRIS preifeffed the greatell refpat for the
Honourable Mover of the Bill. He knew him to be
intimately acquainted with the laws on the Allied of
treating at elatiens. aad that the whole had engaged
much of his attention. Burhis oblations to the pre.
fent Bill were of fuch to radical nature, that they
could not be removed by any amendment, and be
thought this the proper Sage for listing them to the
Hoare. So far as the prelim Bill was merely decla-
ratory of the meaning of the former AS. he thought
it unneceffary,that appeared futficiently clear without
any explanation—but be Rill more ablated to it, be.
caufe it gave fah an extenfion to the Treating Aft,
as appeared highly inexpedient and impolitic. To
fuming money or refrefliment to decors, was contra-
dictory to the letter and the fpirit of the Statute, and
under thefe might be included every thing given to
bear their travelling expences. But it was propofed
now, for the flat time, to prevent their mere con-
veyance by a carriage, at there:pence of the candi-
date, to the place of elation. He then took a review
of the decitions of the Election Committees, and of
the Courts of Lair, on cafes founded on the Treating
Aft—from which he concluded that there was no
need for additional regulations on the fubjee. So
far as the Bill was declaratory, he confidered it as
unneceffary, (ince no great doubts or uncertainty, had
arifen on the Treating At; but in as far as it pre-
vented the conveyance of elators to the place of eke-
don at the expence of the candidate, he agreed with
an Honourable Member who preceded him, that it
awl go to disfranchife a great number of deem in
the kingdom. The lots of votes to the country, it
would be impoffible to appreciate. It waf Cutely
enough that the (later Mould make certain fecrifices,
fuels as the lots of time, and the defraying oflis own
expences ; but it was on u 8 to prevent the poffibility
of exceeding his right of elation, where you cannot
afcribe to him any corrupt motive. He lamented,
that he had not been prefent when the Honourable
Mover advanced various arguments in rapport of the
Bill ; but he bad read an account of them which ap-
peared intelligible and accurate. It had been Paid by
the Hon. Member, that the exercife of the dative
franchife was a matter of option with every elector.
If be chofe to leave the place where he had a right to
vote, he voluntarily fubmitted to the' lots of that
vote. But to this it might be anfwered, that it may
not be left to a man's choice whether he !hall refide
in the place where he has a vote or not. He muft often
follow the courfe of the market for his labour, fo that
the lofs of his vote could not be aferibed to his own
option, but to an unjuft neceffity introduced by the
prefent Bill. With refpel to Count Elections, it
had been propored, that Committees Ihould be held
in every parifb, for the purpofe of receiving the votes
of electors—but, for his part, he preferred greatly
the publicity which attended the prefent mode of
elation, where the eteaors and the candidate ap-
peared in the face of their country. It had alto
been laid, that fuch a meafure would only be thing
up to the fpirit of the at appointing the right of elec-
tion to be confined to thole polliffed of aacts. freehold,
liace 401. at that period might be reckoned equal to
301. at prefent; and thus you preferved more corn-
pletely the independence of electors. But he contend-
ed that an elator, whole freehold was valued at only
forty fhillings a year. might at prefent be as inde-
dendent as one whole freehold was valued at pl.—
This he afcribed to the means of induttry having
multiplied around him, by which he might be placed
in a complete independence. He feared, that if the
prefent Bill paffed into a law, it would excite very
general dircontent in the country. It would introduce
a langour and indifference with regard to the dative
franchifeovhich ought ever to be deprecated. At pre-
fent all ranks of people, on the occafton of an election,
were Peen crowding to the hullings, and a popular
enthufiafm took place, which tended to preferve the
eleaive franchife in due estimation. But the prefent
Bill went to put down all fuch enthufiafm, and ren-
' der men indifferent about the exercife of their mot
important right. No man could object to the pre-
vention of tumult and Itcendoufilefs ; but this would
be fufficiently accomplifhed by permitting the candi-
date to defray only the eapence of conveyance by
carriage to the place of elation ; and this to be done
not by giving money to the voter himfelf, but by the
candidate, or his f lend, who fhould bargain for the
conveyance. On the whole, he confidered the law
as it flood at prefent, as perfectly sufficient, and gave
his decided negative to any farther extension of the
provifions of the Treating A&

Mr. .FRANCIS began with biting what had taken
place fi.s? ration on the Treating Aft before Lord
Kenyese, in which he had been a party, and which
had been alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman who
preceded him. Hs alfo would take that opportunity
of delivering to the 'Houle his fentiments on the pre
(int Bill. It had been brought in by an H,n. Friend
of his, for whom he felt a high refpeft, but if it
thould appear to have the effeft of disfranchifing any
ember of eleltors, it fhould meet with his decided
reprobation. If that were the purple for which it
had been introduced, a material change mull have
taken place in the fentimenteand conduft of his 14O-
nourable Friend. He had fought in company with
him many a battle in fupport of. Parliamentary Re.
form. They had both belonged to the Society called
The Friends of the People, aod had on that account
during the violence of the times, been the fubjeas
of obloquy. He recolleaed a frequent featiment of
that Society, " May we never forget our princiPles
in profperity ;" and it could not be Paid that either
he or his Honourable Friend were driven to fuck de-
reliftibn by Profperity. One principlihr which they
had both then contended wavto extend the right •of
young to every kind of propirty. He binsfelf had,
Ater wised to reparate.power front property. He
had never entertained the idea of univerfal fuffrage,
iev
14. giving the power of voting to ivory man who
' s the fireete.. §ueb ideas he had always cotfi-
d as .leading to anarchy and diforder, and bad
never been aftd opott even iffdicrieett repnblies.—
;yen at Rome, there Were two . elaliea of men who
Were excluded rim all right of voting at &aims, or
of making laws. He had elwayaaptfidered maker.
fal fuffrage as a chimera thlit toad not be need
won, and that the right of +onion lbould never be
fiparated from property.. Bits it had been the great
objet of their endeavours to extend the right.of fur.
frage to every kind ef,property ; aid be could not
hppofe that his•Honodrible Friend would do and
thing now to contradia thofe fundamental prim*.
pies on which they then need, fo as to 6s/rattail&
many of thofe very eleaors, whore number he wesl
once in the habit of thinking too (mall. This feem-
ing.contradiftion of conduf, he wined him to ex.
plain, and reconcile the principle of the prefent Bill
with chore on which he formerly afted.
Mr. MORRIS explained, that he took his nate-
meat of Mr. Francis's cafe from the Reports of the
Court of King's Bench, which were generally allow-
ed 't
to be accurate.
Mr. TIERNEY rote to fay, that he never had',
it in deign to propofe any alteration in the qua-
lification of voters, that might tend to diminith their
number. On the contrary, he rejoiced that there
were loch linen freeholds, and that they had iti-
created coafiderably of late years.
Mr. W.• DUNDAS laid, that be thould find him.
felf under the neceffity of oppofing the prefent Bill,
as its operation would be found very inconvenient in
Scotland. .
Mr. JOHNSTONE could not fee that any great
benefit was likely to arife from the alterations that
this Bill propofed. As to the praaical part of the
Conftitution, he thought it would be hard to point
out any confiderabk improvement. He might quote
the words of Dr. Paley, who would be allowed to
be a good authority on the rubjea. He might, like
him, ant, Who is this Hoare compofed of 1 It is of
men which come from every clefs of heiety, which
produces confiderable talent and information. In
that Houle( there were not only reprefentatives of
the landed interefts, but of the commercial intereft
alto ; there were men, who were the molt diflin.
pilled in every liberal profelEon and honoorabk
fituation. He could not fee what fort of men were
kites to fit in that Houfe, than thofe who affinity
bad feats under the prefent mode of reprefentation.
As he therefore did not perceive any praftical good
that was to refult from changing either the mode of
reprefentation, or the defcription of perfons who were
to be reprefentatives, he fhould oppok the Bah
Mr. LEIGH expreffed his difapprobation of the
principle of the Bill, which would go to the virtual
disfranchifement of a confiderahle number of eleflors,
and particularly of thole who had gained the right
of franchife in borough towns. He fhould fuppore
the cafe of an elation for Coventry. In that borough,
the eleftive franchife was only gained by an appren-
ticetbip for (even years, and after it had been fa
gained, the perfon entitled to it often went to other
places for the convenience of following his trade.
They could not afford to go to the elation at their
'own expence, and would therefore be disfranchifed.
No man refpefted more than he did the landed in-
terell, but there were other interetts in the country!
which were equally entitled to be reprefented. The
commercial men had taken as great a part in the
dircuffions of that Houfe, and had brought as much
information with them upon thofe rubjeas as the re.'
prefentatives of the landed interell I'o examine this
Bill upon principle, he thould ark, was a man to be
disfranchifed on account of his poverty ? It would'
be going too far to fay, •hat wealth was always a
criterion of independence : it was often found, on the
contrary, thit very wealthy men were induced, as
well as poorer men, by Come felfith confideration to
as contrary to their duty. He therefore oppofed i
the Bill.
Sir ROBERT BUXTON hoped the Houfe would
not difimifs the Bill without the moll ferinus confider-
vim). He did not fee how it could he laid to dif-
h-anchife a tingle eleetor. The true conllituiiiinal
principle was, that the reprefentative fhould come in
free and independent, and that he fhould not expend
money for the purpofe of being returned. In the
better times of our hiltory the reprefentatives were
paid for their attendance, and he hoped that that
time would come again. (A laugh). He thought
the Houle and the Country fhottloireel much obliged
to the Honourable Gentleman foT bringing that bu-
finefs before them.
Mr. ROSE did not agree with the diflinairin taken
by the Learned Gentleman (Mr. Morris), that if any
thing more was given than merely the price of con-
veyance to the place of eleCtion, it mull be confidered
bribery. If freemen were to be conveyed to a dittant
town, fuppole, for initance, Coventry, it was evi-
dent, that there mull he cnnfiderable expences be-
fides the mere price of the carriage. The calich,3a,es
were now in a very dita;J-ecable fituation, as they
could not tcl:, in the manner the law now Itood, what
was, or what was not, to be confidered in that light.
He thought it was thertbare tight that the law thould
be made explicit on chi; point.
Mr. COU RTNEY couiplitnetsted the Hon. Baron e

on the purity of his notions, and thanked him for e..
deavouting to make that Houle In angelic an audience.
No man, according. to the Hon. Baronet. fhotild vote
but from pure patrtotifin. If he go in a mail coach,
at the Candidate's expence, he muff be corrupt; but
it that were really the cafe, he feared there would, at
that mOrnent, he very few immaculate members prefent.
He faid he was glad the Right Hon. Mover did not
mean to alter the qualification of the Voters from aoe.
to 301. He had been informed otherwife. As to the
objeftions of the noife and coulnfion which thefe
voters occ**, who were carriedfr oat diftant parts.
they alarl4%im nbt. • Cockades, and the liberty of
buzz ai ng, tirOltidgewhich every Englillsman admires.
and contribute tintive him en idea of the rights he
enjoys, and on thapoffeffion of which be ;mites him-
Mf. This was well expreffed by one of our celebrated
Poets, he believed Dryden, who (peaks thus of an
eledtiew
4* Wheel every awe enjoys.
• a 111.-ebsrty sad property:oc busk.''
Captain HERBERT objected to the bill, on, tie
ground of its disfrauchifing a number, of claim, and
alfo becaufe be did not think that it, could faitly pro-
duce the object which wm..the avowed intention of
it. Inftead of , bringing in dos, defcription of Gen-
tlemen which the Honourable mover fecl, he
did not fee that they would have any tsge, un-
lefs their refideoce and conneetionn happened to be
very near the :county town, and in fuels cafe they
would have an,advantage over ftlell of mach better
pretenfions.withlived at a diftaoce ; but if the Gen-
tleman of (mall fortune Scald refide in a part of the
county that was diftant from the "place where th
elation WAS to be held, be did not fee how he wont
be helped by the prefent bill.
Mr. Secretary FOX faid, that he Ihould only
a few words. He willsed it not to be underac.
that by voting for the bill going into a Cemmittc he
on that account meant to expels any approbation of
the principle of the bill : he merely thought that it
was neeeffatf, that lay doubts or rnifunderaandfugs
which now exitted amid be removed.
Mr. BULLER laid, that when loch high audio.
rides Is the Chief juaices of the two Supreme Courts
differ ; and the Committees of that Haifa alfo ; it
was neceffary thole doubts amid be removed ; tsatyi
he withed, therefore, the bill amid go into a Com-
mittee. He approved alfo of the poll being taken
in large couaties, in different places, as it would Surd
much to leffen the expences, and enable men, of mo-
derate fortunes, to offer themfelves as candidates,
without the riot of being ruined.
Mr. LEYCESTER confidered the words of the
Statute of King William fbfficiently clear. The de.
cifion of the Court of Common Pleas, which had Wen
alluded to, was not upon this astute, but upon fame
vague words introduced into she Statute of George
11. which, after mentioning that the candidate an*
not give " meat or drink," adds, or "any other thiag
by way of reward."
The ATTORNEY GENERAL (Mr. Ptoorr),
raid, that notwithaanding the decifion of the Court of
Common Pleas, he could fay, from an experience of
sear twenty years in eleaion cafes, that the Commit-
tees of the Houle of Commons generally decided the
other way. If they confidered the funs given al Ow
losable, they allowed them—if not, the elcaiou waft
declared void. The Candidates were now in smiler.
,•able Gate for, want of any certain rule upon thistfab-
jea. They' Might find one Committee which would
readily allow thole expences, which another Com-
asittee would declare &add vacate the eleetion..-..
Whatever alterations it might be neceffary to maim
im she prefent Bill, yet 'helve mould be clearly fes•
'tied upon the fubjeft.
Mr. TIERNEY faid, he should find it very difficult
to reply to all the objeaions that had been made, as .
they were fo oppnfite to each other. One Gentleman
found fault with it, as coofideriag it a fort of Parlia-
mentary Reform. Another objetted to it, becaufe
k was not a Parliamentary Reform, and thought
that he (Mr. Tierney) bad defcrted that principle.
which he had fo often piddled that he adhered to.
In the firs place, he would far, this meafure was not
cenneaed with what is generally called a Parliamen-
tary Reform. But at the fame time, no perfoo aught
to confider his introducing it, any dereliftion of the
principles and opinions he had formerly prefeffed.—
A wife and prudent lover of reform would get what
he could towards his objea, when circumaances pre•
vented him from getting what be willed. He was a
little a flonifhed at what had fallen from another Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Courtenay), who had been a long
time, a warm advocate for Parliamentary Reform.
and who (till confidered the uoife and tumult amend-
ing popular tie/Hons. as the genuine fymptom of the
fpirit of Britilh liberty. He could allure that Hon.
Gentleman, that if he bad ever been at the Borough
elation, about thrwor four o'clock in the day, when
the poll was call up, he would have witneffed as much
of thole indications of the fpirit of Britifh liberty,
and heard as much noife, (hooting, and tumult.
as his heart could will (a laugh). He could not con-
ceive, how it could be faid to be risfranchifina any
body, to declare " that no man mould be permitted
to exercife his eleflive franchife at the expence of the
candidate." Would any Gentleman contend. that
the franchife included a right of being carried, free
of expence, to and from the place of eleaion ? As
nobody could argue that fuch a right exitted in
the eleaor, there would be no right taken away by
the prefent Bill. But while this pratice was allowed,
it was impoilible for Gentlemen of moderate fortune.
whatever might be their talents, or the efleem is
which they were held, to sand before men of much
fuperior wealth. They could not afford to bring the
freeholders in their interell from the dittance of fifty
or fixty miles to the county toss n. It was not fo much
his objea to proteft candidates from expence, as to
protelt Parliament, and to throw its doors open to
that defcription of men, whole introduElion he con-
fidered a moll deferable thing ; be did not with
that wealth (hould be deprived of its proper influ-
ence, but he mull objell t't its being the only qua.
lification—he always withed to fee men of large
fortunes in that Houfe, but he altar withed to fee
Members of another defcription. As long as the
candidate was expelled to pay the expences of Wing-
ing the freeholders to the place of eledinn, fi long
as great wealth molt carry every thing before id, for
no man of moderate fortune, whatever might be his
talents, or the diem in which he was held, couhd ever
venture to incur the expellee of being a candid ate fur
.t county. He could fee no better reafon for a candi-
date being expefled to be at the expence of coqee7ing