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Bin which had come from the House of Commons. They were
not justified in taking away the civil rights of persons, which had
been conceded to them upon the supposition that they were com-
petent to exercise diem. A Noble Lord had asked if be (the Chan-
cellor), had become a reformer; he had lived too long-to attach much
respect tat the character of a reformer, that term united revolutionists
and republicans *lth some of the best persons in the kingdom. The
Nobk and Learned Eatl then insisted that the sentiments of an infinite
majority of the people of this country were unfavourable to this Bill.
He sheinid be sorry to say that the House of Commons did not
represent the sense of the people; but he wen recollected that when
tilt West India Bill was introduced into the House of Commons,
and Petition after petklort poured in against it, it was said that the
House. and not the petitions spoke the iense of the people; how-
ever, a General Election succeeded, the House, in coniequence, be-
came differently constituted, and the sense of the people proved to be
a perfect iflusioo. With these observations, which had been very
imperfectly expressed, be would now conclude. After twenty-five
years consideration of the subject, he bad perfectly satisfied his
mind that be should not discharge his duty to his station or his
country if be did not oppose this Bill. •
Ball FITZWILLIAM sported the Bill, and expressed his
surprise that any real Triend of the [leftists Constitution should or
pose a principle as applied to Ireland and the Catholic cause, which
they would disdain aq.applied to the land they lived in—(Cheers.)
The House divided on the irecond reading, when there appeared,
Fork . . el present Prosies . 48
Against k . 113 present Proxies . 65
MAJORITY AGAINST THE BILL . . 42

The other Orders of the Day were then dioposed of, and the House
adjourned at a QUA 1171111 riorr "Fps ulloct Tits Tdoaatae.

HOUSE OF COMMON&

Dr. PRIMA MORR presented a Pettdon front the Reverend
IL Butts Owen. D.D. Rector of St. Olave, against St. Olave,

Hart street, Tithes RM.—Laid on the table.-
Lord STANLEY presented a Petition from t►e Chamber of
Commerce at Manchestet, against the Hoff Docks Hill.
SYKES presented a Petition from Hull, in favour of the DM.
Mr. W. COURTF.N A If presented a Petition from the Rev. R.
Reaniston against the London Tithes Bill.—Lsid on the table.

LONDON TITHES SILL.
Mr. Alderman WOOD moved the second reading of the Lon.'
don Tithes Bill. The.parishioners were willing to raise the tithes
to a shilling in the pound, but objected to the enormous *rate of
La. 9d. in the pound, which was demanded by the different incurn.
bents of the five Parishes. Let the case he sent to, a Jury to decide
ou the merits, and it would be found that no such deed had been
enrolled. It was not to be endured that the charge on the City of '
London should be raised from £5OOO to £135,000 a year, as would
be the case if the claims of tki Clergy were complied with.
COURTE NA Y opposed the Bill, as an attempt to interfere
with the rights of individuals. This right was held under an Act
of the 37th of Henry VIII. which provided that a decree therein
mentioned should, after being enrolled, have full effect. That de-
cretatm, posed the payment of La. 9d. in the pound from the five
Peaklike which it named to their Clergy. The enrolment of the
deed was dispited, but the question was tried in 1647. and a Jury
found that the decree was enrolled. He moved as an amendment
that the Bill be rejected.
Mr. Alderman BRIDGES supported the motion.
Mr. WY NN said,_ the Bill would go to take away the rights by
which all private property in the kingdom was held ; for this claim
was supported by an Act of Parliament, and the finding of a Jury.
Mr. J. SMITH shortly objected to the Bill, and thought the in.
ennebents bad a riirh ito their demand.
Mr. CALCRA thought that an issue should be granted to
try the fact of the enrolment, which was all that was asked. If the
decree was enrolled, 'ben the question was at once settled, and the
right established.
Mr. COURTEN'AT explained.
• Ut. Secretary PEEL said this two and ninepence in the pound
was a tight' held by,Statute, and the Courts of Law bad decided
in he *tear. Thies was not the first tins* that the Clergy had
bgen Adiged to complain of the same spirit. In the year 1530, he
fold them complaining that N the Citizens, for their riches, are
*Or most, and will not pay"—(A laugh).—He should have no
objective to see an amicable adjustment of the question similar to
that which took place in the parish of St. Andrew's, but he
strongly objected to the course now taken.
Mr. W SM ITH said he should be obliged to vote against the Bill.
Mr. Alderniati WOOD replied briefly, and the amendment that
the Mho spesed, was carried without a division.
• JUDGES' SALARIES.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, when the Report was brought up, he
should move an amendment• to the resolution, declaratory of the opi.
Mom of Parlianient that the Pulane Judges 'should not be promoted
th the talk of thief Justice. He wished that this opinion
should have the effect, not of a legislative easement, bit of a
strong legislative suggestion.
The CHANCELLOR of :the EXCHEQUER said, the
Aniendment of the How and Learned Gentleman might be pro-
posed this evening.
Mr. BROUGHAM said be had a reluctance to do this, be-
' cause many Gentlemen were absent who took great interest in
this emuteuund thought it involved the independence oldie Judges.
WILLIAMS objected to the amount of the salaries.—
' H. would move that 10001. of the 60001. per annual should be
granted to the retired Judges.
Tlw CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he did not
mean ly the arrangement of last night to preclude the Scotch
Juftm.
Mr. BROUGHAM gave notice, that be would on Thursday
next Windt to the House a nation for better securing the practical
rleirof the Judges.
eeIIMITBREAD mooed the discharging the order of the
nauseam the Hydepark turnpike Bin.
Mr. DAVENPORT opposed the motion.
MN H. SUMHZResaiselwilbit the proposed alteration of the
game woehilemm the pailekl,llolll. ammo.
After a fors wards baps Lord Luwetrma, Mr. Cat.caare, and
Mr. R. COLONS% the ease was diseharged.
Mr. STK= "resented a Pedalos trim certain Artisans of Hull,
against the re-esiamment of the Combleatien Laws, and a Petition
from the Merchants of Hull engaged in the Fishing Trade. praying
the duty as Rape Seed may not be takes or.
The Hon. Member also moved for returns of the amount of the
duties received on soap and tallow candies.
Mr. BUCHANAN presented a Petition from Dumbarton, in
favour of the Clyde Navigation Bill. .
Mr. J. WILLIAMS postponed ill tin lank day of this month
big notice for the presentation of a Mikis easplaining of the de.
lays in the COurt of Chancery. ' • * • •
Mr. BRIGHT presented a PetitisisAltils sho,Shoemakers of
Beth, against my roensesnient of the ComMioadite Laws. Bellined
to the Cemosisee.
Sir F. BURDILII7 presented a Petition from the Hoopeholden
of Westminster for the repeal of the Window 'Tax.
111r.CURTZIS presented a Petition from Rye for the eatession
of she Blostive Franchise of that Borough—Ordered to be printed.
WINDOW TAX.

Mr. HORHOUSR rose to bring forward his prondoed motion
for the repeal of the Window Tax. The Hoe. Member said, this
tax had long been repealed in Ireland, where it had been justly
called the fever cal', and in this country it wis equally entitled to
the name,: fur no one could doubt that it had annibikted much
health and eonsfeet.- It was use Ms intention to propose.snything
which would interims with the inanclal arrangements of the pre-
sent year, but be thimaght he hod a right to call u the Wow
to givedir rinisetion lee a future Session. The reduction
Of the Window Tez upon tuadi booms would net give thoreliei
Which the light Hest. Mueslis, Slab, lichequer expected. The
tams upon each bosom Ind bum paid by the landlords, and no re-
lated= of NM mai. sow mate; so that the parties relieved were
not the paw but inellew chin. 'The Hon. Member concluded by
Movitqr, 'l/4The free and alter the Sri of April. MUNI, the whole
Ha dm Tax ens Whidowesimedi areas end demmaine." •
Mr..LOCKHART seomalled she motion..
The CHASCELLO4IIS the EXCHNCLIVER said, be was al-
, ways Dined tom . •resiktet to the Petitions presented to.
that Haw, but still the Was not bowl to secede i=oly:
to their prem..' He.allirrod whoily•from the-Honourable
usawes to the moist of the mist that had been afforded. Had the
erievows bon se great, the City of . Westminster would probably,
have petitioned split it; hut at a Meeting held for that pupae,
the attempt to get op a Petitlen had completely 'failed, int lbs
Hometrabir Member end 'his celleague had been mud, bone ad
foot. Intik City-of Wescatinwer, out of 17,0u0 prom rateable
wore raa, 2,000 Weft new wholly ezempte4, Ry the. Act of the.,
present yam, in bible lights Were exempted. He was decidedly.
of wisdoms thit the effeste of Governor,* alioriltbs. applied re the
rrduetion immense maw of Mimes taxitku; mid- Govern=
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her notice than to say. that he hoped the not having an estah
id .religien iq Nineties Mat its,Anildi orattelbote to, ire
piness gm, motestry, it the estaWishnsiio of g reilgion his
tribeted to the 'happiness of this iiiiiiionstlear, hear, hear}
is Int the in Ise the disfrenchiseMent of Irish freeholders, if it
any couseliso:wkh tbe.preseit measure, the House ought to
eit beam them' If what a Noble Friend of his had suited was
ect,it certainly went a gi!at way to diminish his respect for the