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been esausind and deemed In ether Dineen. If the prudes
now conspialsed of was essfannable to law, it was a end
grievance, sad get to be eland. A man who cinfornind to,
and explebesd the 119 Aniciss, eeeardag to their plain tisening,
and die domains of Scripture, *gist anne to be a Illthepriacell
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'is dual** es*. olio excluded Clergyman—the Crown k-
alif addlia las innerested. He was convinced the Reverend Lord
Ind far exeeellpf his legal authority ; at all events he had cur-
dled it in a nouner highly injurious to the peace of the Church;
and, as the doctrines of that (tun* were a part of the law of
the laud, it was the duty of that House to proem its peace,
by preventing its basis from being narrowed iu the way at-
=lby the everend Lord. The grievance could be re-
by R
Parliament, or by his Majesty.
Lord CALTHORPE could not remain silent on a subject
which so deeply Involved the peace of the Church in which he
had been educated, and could never consent to see the rights
of that Church invaded by such a course as that which had been
pursued by the Right Reverend Prelate. He admitted that a
great degree of discretion was vetted in Bishops ; but the con-
duct of the Right Reverend Prelate exceeded all the bounds of
that discretion.
The Eirl of HARROWBY said, he agreed with most of the
arguments that had been advanced on this question, and he
thought it was one well worthy the consideration of the House;
and he was convinced the Right Reverend Prelate had acted in
direct contradiction to the practice of the Church—(Hear, hear)
—and to the Evangelical doctrines of eminent Divines. It was
highly impolitic thus to narrow the bads of the Church; it was
dangerous to the interests of Religion ; and such an examination
las that which the Right Reverend Prelate had pursued ought
not to be pursued. At the same time, he did not think it would
be expedient to fellow up the Petition, after being laid on the
table, by an Address to the Crown, because be believed that
every end would be answered by the discussion of that evening.
The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the Petition ought to
be laid un the table ; but as to the conduct of the Right Re-
verend Prelate, his opinion was, chat he bad a right to examine
, in order to know what their doctrines were, and
:I:ll7teenought to be a standard of faith In the country. He
had no objection, however, to the Petition lying on the table.—
The Petition was then received.
Lord (),ACRE presented a similar Petition from another
Clergyman, named Neville—Laid on the table.
Lord DACUR said, that in consequence of what fell from the
Noble Earl opposite, he should decline moving an Address to
the Crown ; but be should move that the two Petitions should
be referred to a Committee of that House.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he should oppose
this motion.
The Earl of CARNARVON supported the motion, and
AvArmly censured the conduct of the Reverend Prelate, as tend-
ing to sow dissension in the Church. He was surprised and
ashamed-to' see so many Reverend Prelates silting on their
bench, and on saying a word on this question.
Their Lordships now divided cur the motion for referring the
Petitions to a Cdromittee:
Contents - - - - - 19
Non-Contents - - - - 58
, - • • Majority against the Motion —39
'On the motion of Lord Eu.ninoaouon, the Marriage Act
Amendment Rill was read a second time.—At Half-past Nine
the House adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. MASON from the East India House, presented certain
Resolutions of the Court of Directors respecting the Salaries of
the Officers of the Company.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. BLACKBURN presented several Petitions from Lanca-
shire against the Licensing Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR postponed until the 26th inst. his mo-
tion respecting the Practice of the Court of Chancery.
Mr. EGERTON presented a Petition from Chester against
the Licensing Bin. On the question being put that the Petition
be brought up,
Mr. BERNAL said, he took that opportunity to correct a
misrepresentation which had found hs way into some of the
Newspapers, as to what be had said respecting the Bill in ques-
tion. It was stated that he had said there were no abuses what-
ever under the present system. He bad never said so. He had
merely said that a distinction ought to be drawn between the
town and the country brewer. Upon general principles he highly
approved of the Bill, and should give it his hearty support.
The SPEAKER enquired whether the Hon. Member in-
tended to submit any motion in consequence of the Breach of
Privilege he had just mentioned?
Mr. BERNAL answered in the negative; and the Petition
was then brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. AGAR. ELCIS presented Petitions from the wholesale
Spirit Dater& of Kinsale and Waterford, against the present die-
dilation laws.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Sir ULYSSES BURGH presented a Petition fkom certain
Landowners and Merchants of Carlow engaged in the butter
trade, praying for protecting duties on the importation of that
article.—Ordered to lie on the table.
The same Hon. Member presented certain Returns from the
Ordnance Office relative to the salaries of the officers of that
department.— Ordered to lie on the table, and be printed.
Mr. BING presented a Petition from the Rector and Church-
wardens of the Parish of St. George in the East, against the Iron
Coffin Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table.
The Middlesex County Treasurer's Bill was read a second
time, and committed.
The West India Trade and Colonial Bills were read a third
time and passed.
Mr. CURWEN moved for an account of the number of gal-
lons of spirits distilled from corn in Ireland in each year, from
the year 1818 to the present time—and a similar account respect-
ing Scotch spirits.—Ordered.
General UA SCOY Nit presented a Petition from an indivi-
dual, against the Annuity Memorial Indemnity Bill—Ordered
to lie on the table.
A conversation took place between Mr. Waimea= and Mr.
M. A. Tammy as to the object of the latter, 131 the motion of
which he had given notice respecting the practice of the Court of
Chancery.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, be intended to move for a Com-
mittee to consider the provisions of the Bill creating the Vice-
Chancellor's Court ; and if the House should adopt the motion,
he intended to propose a legislative measure to limit the jurisdic-
tion of that Court.
Mr. DAWSON moved for an Address to the Crown for a
Copy of the Report of the Commissioners appointed to inquire
into the Salaries and Duties of the Officers of Courts in Scotland.
—Ordered.
The Bakers' Regulation irt
was 11 went through a Commi
rdered tttee, o
on
the motion of Mr. Catatax.—The Report oo
received on Monday:
Mr. KENNEDY postponed the second reading of the Scotch
Juries Bill until the 17th instant.
Lord G. BERESFORD presented a Petition from Water-
terford, praying for a further protection on the butter trade.
Sir N. COLTH U BST postponed his motion for a Committee
on the Butter Trade, until Friday next.
Mr. BENETT (of Wiltshire) presented a Petition from cer-
tain Farmers of Salisbury,for the repeal of the Leather Tax,—
Ordered to be printed.
A Menage from the Lords here announced their Lordships
assent to several Bills.
A Mesas& wished to ask whether it was the intention of his
Majesty's Ministers to make any alteration in the duties upon
Bast India Sugar?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the
subject was under the consideration of Government, but he could
not say what course would be adopted. He thought it most
likely that the duties would remain as they were.
Mr. GRENFELL put a question relative to the renewal of
the Bank Charter?
The CHA NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that
he could not say at what time the Government would propose a
renewal of the Bank Charter, or whether it would be done or not.
Mr. CA LCRA IFT begged to call the attendon•of the Attor-
ney-General to certain Returns which were big year ordered by
the House, respecting the business transacted by the Cowl of

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ATTORNEY-OHNKKAL said be would :11_k tt his
Wilma to ingsdre into Ike eirtaillitllMM He LAIL. vc.- the
neglect was not intentional
Wr. DKADMONT pruented a Petidon from certain Owners
And 'Occispien et Land in Northumberland, praying for relief
=&vineries they offered ender the Horse Tax. The
Masher said he was happy to observe that his. dsinty's
Givitunitsen Wended to afford relief to all Persons suffering
under die ineurrenience.-.ordered to de on the table.
lily THOMAS ACKLAND presented two Petitions frost
Devonshire, compialning of Agricultural Distress.—Ordered ao

He on the table. - •
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL presented Petitions from
certain llilken of the Court losscheq praying fur compen-
sation in Consomme of the of their Pea by the Rector
nisance Bill.--Ordseed to Ile on the table.
YORKSHIRE POLLS SILL. •
Mr. WYNN moved the second reading of the YOKshire
Polls Itegulation Bill.
Mr. CIIALLONER opposed the Bill. It arose, he thought,
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out of the fancy of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and was not
called for by the County. It tended to deprive the electors of
a considerable portion of their elective franchise, and he was net
aware of any crime they had committed to deserve that punish-
ment. •He moved, at an amendment, that the Rill be read a
second time that day six months.
Mr. RAMSDEN seconded the amendment. The SS, he
said, was opposed to the wishes of the County, which had ea-
' pressed its opinion through the Grand Jury.
Mr. WILBERFORCE opposed the Bill. He thought it
would take away much of the weight and influence of the great
and wealthy County of York.
Mr. WYNN supported the Bill. He denied that it would
have the effect .stated by the lion. Member. It was, he con-
tended, a necessary consequence of the gill, which gave to Yorke
shire the right of sending two additional Members to that House.
—The object of this Bill was to prevent the immense expense
attending contested elections for the County. That expense
had sometimes been as much as £lOO,OOO a side, without the
payment of a single shilling for an illegal purpose. Thee were
no fewer than 13,000 freeholders, woo poUed at the last contest
from the West Riding only. He thought the Grand Jury had
entered into a subject foreign from their duty when they „re-
nounced an opinion on this Bill. He had, however, no wish to
press the Bill, if the House should appear disinclined to en-
courage it.
Lord NORMANBY opposed the MU. In the County to
which the Bill related he knew there was a general intlilf.rer.ra
felt towards it, and some cases of strung objection.
Lord HOTH A M contended that the Bill would be benefici.,l
to the County of York, and denied that they had any reason to
believe that the County was averse to it.
Mr. 3. WORTLEY considered that the majority of the elec-
tors were decidedly against the Bill. If the Bill passed the lat.dcd
interest in the West Riding would be sunk.
Admiral SOTHERON supported the amendment.
Mr. DBNISON and Mr. DUNCAN opposed the Bill.
Mr. H. SUMNER thought the West Riding ought not to to
allowed to rids otter the North and East Biding-.
The House then divided, when the number, were—
For the second reading ... ..... ........... 27
Against it 46 i • C 9
Majority against the Bill —32
On re-admission to the gallery, Mr. S. RICE asked if it were
intended, on the part of Uovernment, to propoie any measure
with respect to the conduct of the Chief Baron of Ireland.'
Mr. PLUNKETT said that he had not yet had an opper-
' tunity of seeing the Report. He did not mean to say that the
question was not important and urgent ; but this he knew. that
if any person had a right to complain of del y, it w.:s cer-
tainly the Learned Chief Baron, who had been the object of
the present question.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT deprecated the postponement of the
subject to another Session.
CoNSTABLES IN IRELAND SILL.

Mr. GOULBURN rose to move.the second reading of this
Bill lie pointed out the state of the Police with regard to the
appointment of Constables, and ,hewed its defects. He also
alluded to the difficulties. of arresting persons in Leland, which
could seldom be effected with the concurrence, or without the
opposition of the population. From these cause-, to be efficient
in his office, a constable ought to devote his whole time to is
duties.' The Grand Juries who now appointed them could not
grant such salaries as would enable them to do so, and, get cen-
sequence, the office of constable h..d Linen into a state which it
was most desirable to avoid. If they wished te tuukt pLupte
of Ireland respect the law they must endeavour to restart- its
administration with effect. The mean, of aecomplishing this
be was about to propose to the House. He was aware that be
might be met with the objection that it was against the prin-
eiples of the Constitution to vest such a power in the hands cf
the Government as the appointment of these constables; but he
thought the first constitutional duty of every man was to enforce
the observance of the laws. The appointment of the chief con-
stable of a Barony was no new power in the bands of Govern-
ment. Several previous Acts had authorized this, and the ob-
ject now in view fully authorized them in extending the power
to the common constables. He should propose by the Lill that
the duties of a constable should be limited to the Maintenance of
the peace, under the directions of the Magistrates. lie knew
that the House had not always met what it expected from the
Magistracy of Ireland, but be thought the present measure
would remove one of the difficulties which prevented their act-
ing with that efficiency which rendered a Magistracy respect-
able. The House was aware ttrat there were extraordinary
measures of police now in operation, which had been atteudel
with the most happy results; and he did not mean to imply any
thing unfavourable to those measures when he proposed otle,:s
which be considered would operate as a preventive, instead of a
remedy, for outrage. Various Petitions were to be feend
upon their Journals, pointing out in much stronger terms thee
he had presumed to use, the defects of the police in Irehind.
One of these, from the county of Galway, also al!utled to the
means by which they were to be removed. He thought no mats
would object to the proposition that an effective police in Ire-
land was desirable. lie proposed this measure to the Iloine
the opening of a new era for that country. By it he hoped 'o
prevent the necessity of keeping up the large military establish-
ment there, and of employing military force upon all occasion:,
which it was so desirable to avoid, unless in cases of open inier-
rection. With these views he confidently proposed the scroll
reading of the Bill.
Sir HENRY PARNELL thought that unless the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman could find the means of constant communi-
cation between the Counties and the Government, his plan of
police would not be successful. He contended that the Right
Hon..Gendeman had not fairly described the detective state of
the Magistracy of Ireland. The number of improper persons in
the Magistracy was so great, that to entrust to them the direc-
tion of these constables was likely to bring the law into still
greater disrespect. He thought the Government ought to take
upon themselves the task; they ought to take the resolution of
reforming the Magistracy. Ile had heard that souse, he hoped
not many, had actually encouraged the outrages, in the hope of
getting rid of tithes and rents, they being themselves land-
holders. Another evil of the defective police was the injury it
did to public credit, owing to the general distrust in the admi-
nistration of the law. The industrious nun could not get the
credit be deserved, because every une was afraid of obtailing
redress in case of fraud. Thus the capital of the country could
not be employed hi the most advantageous channels. It appeared
to him that the remedy which the Right Hon. Gentleman nitant
to propose was the establishment of constables, armed, mourted,
and accoutred, in every respect resembling the French police.
He thought the best means would be those of removing e e
powers which Grand Juries possessed, and placing them in d.e
hands of Magistrates, as in England, and of appointing constitu-
tional constables. He should have no objection to the latter
being assisted by such officers as the Right Hon. Gentleman
proposed. If these alterations were made in the Bill, he should
be disposed to support it. He contended that the removal of
the present constables and the introduction of these armed men
would be likely to disgust resident Gentlemen, and make them
become absentees. Another ground of objestion to the measure
was the expense which it would incur. This would fall upon
the colludes, and it would amount to about 4,0001. a year for.
each, and they now paid only about 8001. for the maintenance ,ct
all their constables. He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman weed
consent to send the Bill to a Committee above stairs.
Mr. PLUNKETT rose to submit a very few observations: o
the House. Upon the necessity at once of improving the pohfe
exist. The Hon. Baronet admitted the necessity of an Irani
of Ireland, no difference of opinion,
diate change, and that admission alone answered his propos.:
for a committee. Whether the measure now proposed was the
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