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the existing tali.
and trials that had
well affected to•the
nightly outrages. ,
would be the,object
the extension of fin
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should be immediai

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.af a whole district
one individual had overrun the laws. The present
_measure was aot an' arbitrary act of the Crown, but
a remedy to camp an evil hitherto unexperienced in
;has country.
Mr. TIGHT, in objecting to the first clause of the
130.1, observed, that in Ireland a similar measure had
nix had the effect intended, most of the arms that
came in having been such as were given up by the
rebels, either to prevent their houses Wag burnt, or
to make peace with the Government. He had no
objection that all necessary power should'be given to
the Magistrates ; but this power be considered more
than was necessary, the Magistrates being already
possessed of sufficient powers to meet the emergency,
As an Englishman, he should object most decidedly
to this clause but, not being an Englishman, hifek
'some delicacy in making the objection. Prom any
thig that he had heard of the Magistrates of Eng-
land, he understood that they were remarkable for
their humanity and_ feeling towards the people ; he
could not, therefore, object is the clause on this
ground, but from a conviction that it was illegal an 4
unconstitutional. Whence were the Magistrates to
derive their Suspicious, but from informers ? and this
class of men he considered dangerous, and the sys?
tern pernicious. They were men, whose intcrest it
was to promote distnibances, and like the witches in
Macbeth, to excite mischief. A man's house, he oh-
served, was not the place to seek for secreted arms,
nor was the night a proper time-to look for them.-
-.Such a search ought to take place in the day-time,
-and in the presence of a Magistrate. For these'
emisons he should vote against the first Clause of the
Mr. GJLES wished to throw no reflection on the
Magistrates ; but contended, they might abuse their
power, and therefore he was unwilling to intrust
them with powers se extensive, and so much be-
yond the law. Intrusted with such powers, what
controul would there be- over the Magistrates? If
such a clause should be admitted, he would propose,
as check, and some guard against abuse, that such
search should be made in the presence of two Ma-
.
gastrates, or by a warrant signed by two, as it was
hiss likely that two should be guilty of abuse than
one. He therefore moved, as an Amendment, that
instead of the words 44 signed by any," there should
be substituted, 44 signed by two Magistrates of the
Peace." . •
Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that the Bill
already provided for this, so far as necessary. To
take arms from unsusrected individuals, against
whom there was no, information of secreting dim,
two Magistrates by the Bill were necessary ; but, for
seizing stolen arms, there could not always be time
to have two Magistrates, as much might depend on
immediate proceeding. In such a case delay might
Vittuded with great inconvenience, and therefore
it had been thought advisable to make this distinc-
tion between those stealiug or secreting arms, and
the reacrable inhabitants.
Mr. TIERNEY, from his own personal know-
ledge and observation, entertained tke greatest re-
srect for the hlagis:rates, or Justices of the Peace ;
but•of these there were two kinds. There were Gen-
tlemen Who resided on their own estates of this dee
_saiptlon, and whose fathers and 'families had been so
before them ; but there were also others of* very dif.
krent kind, who were anxious to get appointed, such
as the Magistrates of borough towns, and,Who, after
their appointment, were very active and zealous, fre-
quently overdoing the thing, to obtain the approbatio9
of their employers. What would be the consequence,
in such cases, of se:itching for arms in the night, and
as the Bill allowed of digging for them in the garden
or cielings, or any other part of the house that might
be thought proper ? A man's enemies in this catat
would take the opportunity of doing him all the anis.
chief they could, and he would be literally subjected
to all the raj ies of a mob. It was not, therefore, tod
much ' and
their

•
P..I.RL.I4IIkIENTARr PROCEEDINGS.
HOUSE OF LORDS, liar 16.
- -The Revenue Bill, the I.ife Annuity Bill, the Unclaimed
Prize Money Bill, and the Irish Butter Bill, were severally read
a third time and peeked.
TIIE GENERAL HIGHWAY BILL.
. On the Motion for the third reading of ibis Bill, a short
tliseumion took place between Lard HARDWICK!, Lord LAU-
DZILDALr) and several other Peers. At length a division took
place, when the numbers were : Contents, 4—lion•Contents,6
—Majority against the Bill, Si whereby it is lost for the pre-
sent Session.
Counsel were heard lit the Batumi! Peerage, and the last
%witness on behalf of the Claimant examined. It now remains
for the judgment of the House, after the lt emcee Elm Coal-
••• I• • •
flittce of Privileges shall be received.
The Bills on the Table were all forwarded f
.111 e Patb, apd
the House adjournel

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MOUSE OF COMMONS. •
Colonel Btoost vs exo took the Nth; and his seat.
• . A 'Person from the Exchequer presented en Acmes*, of the
)let Produce of thp Cpnpnikleted Fluid !tad the WM Taxes in
the three years ending the sth Inly, lon le—Ordered to lie on the
Table.
A Person from the Tax-0111m preeented an Aecopnt of the
Window Tar in Scotland. Ordered to lie oq the Table,
Mr. LUSHINGTON brought up the Report of the Commit-
tee on the New Forest MIL To he prlittCol *Pa the Bin tp be
reed a third time to-morrow.
The House went into a Committee on the Assessed Tax
Aikkavances.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER d a
Resolution, regulating the Allowance to persons paying.Aisessed
Taxes, according to theft. families. It was kneed to, and leave
given to bring in a Bill accordingly.
In a Committee of the whole Home it was proposed, that a
Bill sbotild be brought in to amend the Act of the last Session,
relating to the British Herring Fishery. The Home resented,
and leave was given to bring in the Bill accordingly.
A Message from the Lorda announced their assent to tbeCom-
mercial Examiner Bills Bill, and the Loyal Tokens Bill.
Mr. WHARTON brought in the Crown Land Leaaing
BM. Read a brat, and ordered tp be read a second time kap
morrow. •
The Frame Work Knitting BM was recommitted. The
pun was received, and ordered to be taken into farther cos. 1
dsradon to-morrow and to be printed.
• The Smuggling bill was read a third time and passed.
Lord locexy re obtained leave of absence for one month.
The Manure Carriappe Bill was read the third dine and

paned.
. Mr. LUSHINOTON•fIonght in the Assessed . Tax Allow-
ance SUL lead a beats 4111 i andhred to be read a second time
so-morrow.
The Coffee Seed" al want through a Committee. To re,
.peet Limnos ow ... •....:-: •
' The Privy Punta ill Went through a Committee. The Re-
'port was reeelvell, and the IXI! ordered to be read a third time
to-morrow. •
' The Report of the Committee on the Vote of Credit was
• brought up and agreed to. A bill was ordered accordingly.
On the Motion of thiCHANCELLOR of theEXCHEQUER,
there was ordered to be *laid be'ore the House a Copy of the
Warrant appointing Commissioner's to inquire into the Revenue
.of the Wesf Indies. yse. use Report
. from the saran dated the
nth March, .1812. ' ' ' ' . '. - ' ; '
On the Motion pftbaCHANCELLOR of i he EXCHF.QUER,
It was ordered, that tie tit:46e should, on hiondatt• iteholyttlntat
a Committee on the Exportation of tiugsr Spirits.- '
The Priioners of Wu Escape Bill went through a Committee.
To retort to.nsarrnw. ' '
- Mr. WHARTON brought up the. Papers rs*log to the
, West 'lndia Connlssitmera. Tu Ile on the Task, And to• be
printed.
The-dropped order of yesterday, for the debate .011 Finance
Resohttioni, was rinevrt trim' Monday. •
puoiltrATiox Cni THE 'PEACE. ' •
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- Loo cA.sTi.rgpApH moved; that theßeport
of the Committee on the Bill for the preservation of
the Public Peace, be now taken into farther contide-
• tn. tion. He alluded to the 'clause which, on a former
night, he, proposed, and respecting which a great
miiiunderstanding had Occurred in the House. He
begged leave to gate, that it never was the intention
of his Majesty's Ministers to supersede the powers of
sites Magistrates . resident in the disturbed districts,
-and to prove this he would now again produce the
Clause, with a modification, which be was convinced
' would not prodUce any opposition. He intended to
restrict the provision to the giving magisterial powers
to the sons of Peers, and to the sons of persons pos.
Seised of landed property Anficitnt to qualify them
- for Members pf Pa!liament.,(Hear, hear.)—This
would also be only granted to individuali resident in
the disturbed districts.— (//egr, hear.), .•
General TARLETON condemned the conduct
of the Noble Lord on a former night and proceeded
.•toanirnadyert on the differenvevents that characte-
rised his Ministerial
_authority ; wiea he was Inter-
rupted by - _ . .L.S. ~4 .•.
Mr. NvAr...trs; who observed, "that the Hon.
Member wag not tiPeaking to the question.
. General 'f.ARLETON regirneti, and advised the
House to be on its guard against arty.measure that
should come from the Noble Lord.
The question was then put, and the.repert was
--Laken into farther consideration. '
• .On the Motion -of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex
oiniquca, the Bill wasordered to be recominitted,—
The House accordingly resolved nit° a Committee
on the seine.
Upon the reading of the first clause, -relating to,
• aearebing for Arms, .
. Mr. ABgRCROMBIE said, that he could not see
• the petition for delegating such powers to the Mar
aistrate. s, and would therefore oppose the elapse.
Lord CASTLEREAGH contended, that the
&lause was necessary; fin' he had reason to believe
• that an organised system of insorirtion existed. The
meeting, the concealing, andp:Deesting of arms, incon-
venient, and in Male degree would be of great
utile 'diiiiiitithir.g the evil that now prerailed to so
gt eat an.extent.
. Mr. BgbINZT r objected to trusting the Magis-
trates With any new powers, he would rather Wish to
call for is rigorous account of the manner in which
thy hied exercised the Kirers they already possessed.
—He did riot ::ky
~I,D *ccuilo'• any body df men, but
- asiesspel the Magistrates bid acted imprudently, and
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began IA Fehruaty, and weri in 144
April. ,4 J ;
'‘LBERFOita represented the Idisturbq
• Country as a scene of terror and dismayt
, and bloedshetl, The Pill really require*,
co-operation of two Magistrates ; but even one,
he contended. was.not likely to abuse the. power in-
,to him. The Right lion. Gentleman had
humorous do

, the subject, in, his usual way ;
but it was really no laughable matter. Did not the
Right Hon. Gentleman know that there had been
many threats of 'assassination, and that many of the
industrious and peaceable part of the community had
been obliged to fly from their homes. He did not -
know that these disturbances had decreased, but if
they had, it must have been owing to Parliament
having taken up the question. It had been asked
1 why it had not been done-won% but this was a very;
proper titne, before Parliament separated, and when
the nights were becoming dark and longer. The
Bill, in his opinion, djd not go too far.
Sir G. WARRENDEff. looked upon the Clause
objected to as essential to the Bill. They had in
thn case only a choice of evils, and the least was to
give the Magistrates the powers required. This was.
the essence of the pill, and besape necessar7. a 4 pro.
vent greater evils.
Lord CASTLEREAGH would be barmy could
he assent to his Hon, Friesid (Mr. Wilberft rce) but
r was sorry he could not reconcile such a proceeding
to his sense of duty, as he should, in that case, sa-
crifice the essence of the measure. In many districts
the Magistrates were thinly scattered, and the delay
that must arise before two Magistrates could be con-
sulted, would, in many cases, prevent the detection
of offenders. It would be better to omit the clause
altogether, than to have it sp amended, and he shculd
certainly take the sense of the House.
Mr. W. BOOTLE was Opinton, that in the county
of Lancashire, and in many manufacturing districts,
the concurrence of two Magistrates being necessary,
would make the whole inefficient, He 54W flo dan-
ger of the Magistrate abusing his power.
Mr. WILBERFORCE explained.
Mr. HOBHOUSE thought, that by to much for-
bearance the object in view might be defeated, and
saw no necessity for altering the Clause.
Mr. W. SMITH was GO-opinion, that the advan-
tage, which in the case of a single Magistrate Only
being necessary, would be acquired by greater cele-
rity, should be weighed against the unpopularity
with which it might be attended. No Magistrate
would be deterred by fear of prosecution, as the
charge could not be proved, from executing private
revenge.
Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE thought the same
objections applicable to two Magistrates as to one.
He was desirous to meet the exigency, but not to go
beyond it, and was of opinion that, by any altera-
tion of the clause, the effect of the measure would
be weakened.
Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) presumed that Go-
, • •
'moment must be better informed on the present
subject than any individual possibly could be, and
was disposed to give them credit for having adopted
the best means of restoring tranquillity. A person
going to. one Magistrate would excite no suspicion,
which must be the case if he went to two, and then
it would 1* supposed he was acting under the new
law. It was not necessary the information shcjald
be upon oath—nothing had been so much objected
to in the English Law as the unnecessary multipli-
cation of oaths. It was proper that arms should be
taken from the loyal as well as disloyal, if they
could .not be defended, as by this means strife would
be prevented. He assented to the totality of the
measure.
Mr. SHERIDAN said that he certainly did not
mean to have offered a word in the Committee, re-
serving his objections against the principle of the Bill
upon the Report being brought up ; but what he
had heard from the Honourable Gentleman who
spoke last, and from other Members, induced him
to depart from that resolution. His Honourable
Friend who spoke last had maintained that, with re.
gard to the operation of the Bill, there could be no
strife where was no opposition ; certainly that was
true, and so lie might have said, that no rape could
be committed, where there was no opposition—

,vagi . _
__ to ask that there should be some check, .laughter.) His objections to the clause in question
that two Magistrates should be required to give Were strong. It went not only to take ernes from the
concurrence, being less likely to act from personal suspected uisloyal, but from the man who was sus.
resentment. He did not give any opposition to the pected of timidity. The Bill was intended to pro-
Bill from a wish to oppose Ministers. (Lord Cat. vide against the forcible seizure of arms—and yet,
dereagh 'mild.) The Noble Lord smiled, and per- what did the law in question propose to do ? To
haps little sincerity was expected from either side of emulate, to copy, the very crime it condemned—
the House towards the other. It was not, however, (Hear.)—lt was empowering its own agents to plun-
front .a wish to oppose Ministers, that he opposed this der aims from all who had them in possession. And
Bill, but from a conviction that it would do more at what time was it so acting ? At a moment when
mischief than good. Why take arms from a man who we were told she crisis of our affairs was such, we
was able and willing to defend himself ? Such a man ought co be an armed nation !—(Hear.) Yet, the
having his arms forced from him, would do more to Government were now trying to make us a disarmed
;create discontent and spread disaffection, through the nation !—(Hear.) And where was. the cause ? Did
country, than any deputies that could be sent fur that the people, for whose sake it was pretended they
purpose.. He did not believe that there was any great! were legislating, ask it of the Government ? Did
quantity of secreted arms any where, nor that they, they grovel at the feet of Ministers—did they crawl
were collectedfromthe motivesalledged. Manypeople upon their knees before them, and supplicate to be
in want of employment, had been guilty of nocturnal !. disarmed ? Did they say, we are too dastardly to
ravages and plunder, and might find it necessary to I defend ourselves, take from us our arms, (or wa,can-
nave some of their party armed. With this view' not use them, and keep them in your custody ?No !
they might seize arms where they them; but lie : He denied the people of England were yet so base,
denied there was any system of collecting arms, or of , were yet so degraded !—(Hear.) He denied also,
regularly training, for the purposes mentioned. The , that there was any necessity no* for the meastire at
Committee had been called a Committee of Secrecy ; I all. He denied it on the face of the Report. The
but thcugh a Member of that Committee, he bad whole business reminded hint of the sham Doti sad
learned no secret there which he had pot previously 1 conspiracies of 1793. • He remembered What wee
porn the Newspapers. -The disturbances first °tie- ! the alarms and actions of that eeriod. He rennin-
:rater! in Nottingham, and it was well known, that • bered when it was spread abroad that vast funds
they were preyery quarrels between the journeymen 1 were collected in order to stipportthe disaffected and
llad their masters. I.'bey had 4fteriards spread,'bot , organize them ; and yet, it Was feeed wpm oath at,
Were of the same description as proceeded from peck. : the Old Bailey, drat the wholeamottnt of those foods.'
in want, of which circumstance the evil dispirsed i was .49,
.44--(4 !ads.)4rl4t was .their gireive
Pitghtt no donblr.t ai "d
vantage. In this pulney a I rier—(a 141.) Another report too ofa conspiracy
man's house was MI castle, and he deprecatiil the ; at tbsitiferiod be feaseadlered, .with all the additions
idea of forcing into, it ins. -the Eight lilac. A slake- of Ira* brining, &c. Audi Old it tura out ?
able time was &wiry the Bill for opening the door ;1 IVree.lefiers. and me tide om' in
.a back ,
liut after that the house might be broken mien. 'Lehi garret itiToolapstreet, in the *lion ' (41000-
dietieveil
might lie different opiniog*, however, isibli.sespiceits lie recollected, also, thie iuchlvas ea to
a reasonisbk time; and Low was. a man fa itetheitin find plots at that time, that a- Matistrate said to
the night times whether it wasa lidagiteae,:* Con; I 0131 on 4,i, qsaiajee, ?$ Miieue2 itimiteudor amber

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guide their decision. He would have had ever*
of
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try—(
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idiarreard,
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no.snch law as the present was proposed. A
for disarming the people indeed was gnat
was a certain power to Magistr
•tomewhat different. He well remembered the 4.
cnssions at that period. He w;11 rentemliered
fool and unmanly debates in that House, whoa •
a question about searching for.arms in tie wo a'
bedrchambers, as to how long a woman migbt s•
lowed to dress in, before she opened the draw .
officers to search. Some Gentlemen prom* ,
minutes; he, without any great effort of. ...__
feeling, ventured toistiggest to., minutes-46 mrs
;lint the Noble Lord opposite proposed that*.
. le time should he granted, which was at last .:.:
t Act, however, which originated with big •Il
"btu
anourable Friend (Mr. Pole), much tu his how*
i did not confer any thing Lite the powh.'s apes ' 1 m
itesintended to by conferred by the present • .
No Magistrate had power to search for arms obi.
upon suspicion] car; won oath; and shim
I to be trannitittod;te the Lord Lieutenant,
authority Opal Mns, or from his Chief 111
'was to be granted, before the li.tagi4*
act : thus making the Executive Goveregag ,6
sponsible.—(Here Mr. Sheridan read evelhad
i the clauses).—Good GOD I (continuedfp; ial;
Honourable Certlenian) compare the twoitep4
1— Compare thp two Ads l—Compare the Ali
1 tlOns in the oite country and in the oast! He '
! havethou ht there was some wisdom huh/
ings of Knisters, did there now mist say .
they cams like sea-gulls, scmattaing rhea ih
was over. Another and a :efficient remilyist
been ::plied ; the disturbances were eookiao74
creasing, and yet such a measure as di. INA
which could eel y_have the effect of initatingotio
be proposed ! He hoped he had pet the sr*
Clause ip such p light as w.uld make it 1,00
should remain. .
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL obsseveloie
any man who, like the Right Hosoanatie.
man, disbelieved the whole of the Repos
come to the same conclusion with himj beds
Honouratile Gentlemar, as yet stood alias'
if
opinion. The • opinion ..f every other Cadge
who had local knowledge upon the sirbjeat lipiNo
firmed the Report of the Committee. Indwells
mime there had been no difference of realise No
the statement of fame; but in opposition to •• Os
Right Honourable Gentleman had desired do :
to take his ijere dizi(.. Some Honourable r •
had found fault with the Report, because it crisis
ed nothing that was not perfectly notorisen,sedik
which every one was already acquainted. taco
port gave an account of attacks upon houses, mid
nocturnal meetings, which all h id conmnat in
ing ought to be put a strp to. But it weed
Right Honourable Gentleman did not evert •
this—(Hear, hear, from the Ministerial 041
man who made such an assertion Might come*
conclusion, and not only reject thi abuse, list
whole Bill. He (the Attoraey.Generali
the whole of the Report, and thought it a •
hope to imagine that the clanger was at ... I
The Right Honourable Geotlernan ~ . no
knowledge, and he was glad be had now- Ur*
sent calm Was only a temporary suspension, boo
sequence of the Assizes, and the proceed, illt
were now going on in Parliament. It nowt.
of precaution were taken, who would bevies*
for the consequences? A character of Moab
rocity was attached to the proceedings is tbs
bed districts : was that to be turned to lest'
jest?. It WAS surely no matter for mateamt..
whole families should be kept in a state of
alarm. Very late intelhence had been it -
threats being 14-41 out to intimidate Pe'e'r
giving evidence upon the trials. He would .
Right Honourable Gentleman, were &airs 6,,
law to be suffered to collect arms to ski* .
selves in the commission of these lounges?
the Government to stand coolly by anclule
sures of precaution ? If the arms was
there would be no motive to visit a bra i
should it not-be lawful to prevent the
or if so, to retake them again? Hub/
that such measures should be f:miliar touts
contemplation of the law. In this case
fence was the object. and Govern:mat Wiwi
fur arms to protect the disrict. The arms
taken better care of than they odd be byqp
viduals to whom they belonged. With
Ireland, he .would ask the Right Hass . ,
eri
denten, did the outrages alluded CO esistia
that was the dated tux Act to which be hada
red ?—(Hear, ker,•frem 'blinisters.) As ed.
try be supposed no outrages to exist. 'del
tuNlly do exist ; -so, in Irviioci, he MO
exist * hen they did not. • •Ther 4
in 1797, and the Act of 1810 was
outrages had ceased. The ActA
been something to the Right
man's purpose, that of 1810 Mat
hear.) The Right Honourable Ge
who disbelieved the whole of the Rep
.lecdy consistent in his opposition to the
Mr. SHERIDAN, in explanatins. el
the Attorney-General partook of the
which be bad him. him. It was Al
that he (Mr. Shaidas) was fortunate 11
local knowledge. in that can he oboe'
better information.- When he said be&
whole of the Report, it should have boo.
grans. He did not mean to mate that be
the facts. He had stated as an amoseld
stance,as
iil that no Ap
shoßepogutipend4pibtrofcamppiais,evifince ball
pot been a division, bi.thi Coatooicomo. al I
for farther evident*? He had SO
sure because the danger irip over:ritsgesigdo'
considerable huoioor upon the absurditi
.
a law which might operate
.10 tame 111 F
man's 'want of defiscpart those k
who warp represented sod '
No moo !moduli ociol4 min we

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Notwithstanding the eit iendons ces
lid taken place, persons who were hes ' n ttr
Constitution, suffered' daili, and . WIL
He was at a loss to know lish.lt i pans of the I
:t of seizing arms, unless it watrer I of violence a
sure 'disorders. For such proceed- the co-opera
e no excuse or palliatk
Mof and they he contender
1
ately suppressed. The agisttates trusted to hi
t cheuld not be reprobated bkitause I beenoimam, imam