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London, England, 1807-03-05 00:00:00

their youth being now flint ant from Anon. every other Fart a
Europe where they were fornierly initrodled in divinity and com.
pleted in the higher claffes of literature; it was alto the with of
the Roman Catholic Gentry. t! t thofe who were (Wiped for
the Church should have a home in preference to a foreign educa•
tion ; and it was impalliko that hi the Univerfiiy of Dublin they
could be educated in matters of tiodtrine and difciplinc appertain
ing to the Itomith faith, by the Profeirors of that Univerfity ho
were Proteftants. _ _ _

Mr. BANKES contended that the on-inal Grant of the Par-
Lament nt Ireland towards the Eft.iltlnment of which they were
now (peaking, was for a fum of money towards the endowment
of the Seminary to be afterwards ftriported by voluntary contri-
butions. Now it appeared as if the 'Right Hon. Baronet thought
it was nothing but a matter of courft, that not only Parliament
ihould be called upon to grant, and Ihould immediately give the
fandion of its authority to the appropriation of a funs of the pub-
lic money which should be fufficient for the entire fupport of the
prefent eftablifhment, but alto that they should vote fuck a cum as
would be equal to double the number of Students that are at pre.
fent educated in that Seminary.
Mr. GRA r I'AN thought that in a queftion of this kind, that
involved the education of a great portion of the population of
the Empire, any fed of Chriftiatiiry &mild be tolerated, as any
one fed of religion was better than no religion at all. He was
aftoniflied to hear from an Honourable Gentleman over the way,
that if the Roman Catholics of Ireland were to be educated in the
principles of their faith, it was little matter whether they received
that education in Ireland or in France. He was furprifed to hear
this, becaufe it went to fay, that it was immaterial whether three
millions of the King's own fubjeds were educated at the expencc
and under the protedtion of his Majefty's Government, or whe-
ther they &ild be penlioners on the bounty of the Emperor of
France. In the jealoufy hitherto entertained of the growth of
Catholicifm, that jealoufy was founded nut upon the mere doc•
trine—not againtt it as a religion—but againft its foreign views—
its foreign connedtions—its foreign relations. But here the ob-
jedtiuti is changed; no danger is apprehended from thole fo-
reign relations; the Roman Catholic may go abroad; but If
kept at home, if educated in the bofom of his country, then he
will be dangerous :—ls this the dodrine ? If it is, let it only be
repeated in order to be refuted. And if it is not ;it foreign con-
nedtions are dangerous, why promote thofe views and Itrengthen
thole connedions, by exiling the Roman Catholic for the purpofx
of educating him ? As to economy, 43,0001. are voted to the Pro-
t:Rant Charter Schools—a i,ooal. voted to the FoundlingHofpital
—that Is, with a ready hand, 214..c:.1. are given to the crimes of
the depraved, and it is to be dlfputed whether 13,00-1. arc to be
given to enlighten and initrua three millions of a bold and hardy
peafantry. Why fo much freely to the Protettant, and why
difpute the little to the Catholic? Did not this do that which
was complained of? Did it not encourage the rivalry fo much
apprehended, by letting up one religion nab-A another, and was
it juft fo to do ? He had heard it apprehended that the inftitution
might tend to encourage the Roman Catholic Profeffors in that
fesuinary, in the latent diffomination of difloyaht ; was it remem-
bered that that feminary is fubjed to the controul of vilitors, the
Chancellor and the judges of the land, and under their controul
nothing in that way could he apprehended ? He withal Gentle-
men to look more largely at the intlitutiun; it originated in wifdom,
and would be produdive of good
Lord MAHON fupported the additional grant to the inftitu•
tion in a very flit ited manner, infilled upon the paramount advan•
tars retuning from the po:icy of committing the Catholic Prieft-
hood to the care of the frith Government.

Mr. WILBERFORCE felt unaltedted pain in offering his fenti-
mem. upon this fubjedt. lie wilhed, however, to be candidly
underftood. He was not, he conferred, one of thole men who
entertained thofe large and liberal views on religious fubjedts,
infifted upon with fo much energy by the Right Hon. Gentleman
on the other fide (Mr. Grattan); he was not fo much like a cer-
tain Ruler, of whom it had upon a late occafion been In happily
faid, that he was an honorary member of all religiosis. He could
not help Paying, that he thought the inftitution in queltion would
tend to difcourage the growth of Proteltintifm in Ireland. He
muft add, however, that he thought the policy of this country's
condudt towards that part of the Empire had been a molt illiberal
and ill judged one. This dangerous fyftem of intolerance and
perfecution has been too long preferved, and cannot be too greedily
shated.-4.4 loud cry of Hear ! Hear I from tte Treafitry
At the fame time if Proteftantifns was to be encouraged in Ireland,
certainly the Maynooth Seminary did not contribute to that molt
defirable effect; while he wilhed to encourage proteltantifin in
Ireland, and indeed all over the earth, as the pureft religion with
which its inhabitants were ever blefred, he was at the fame time
a decided enemy to the barbarous cruelty and folly of all tyftems
of exclufion and intolerance.
Lord HOW IC K applauded the manly and ingenuous fentiments
that had fallen from his Honourable Fiend ; they were worthy
of his enlightened mind, and worthy of the pure religion of which
he was an ornament. It was therefore with the greaten regret,
that he had heard from his Honourable Isriend, opinions upon
that fuhjerft not entirely correfponding with rhofe fentiments.
The Noble Lord then proceeded to refute the arguments that had
already been combated;--Ise raid that the Inftitution in queftion
had its origin in 179( ; and read in fupport of its policy, the let-
ters of the Duke of Portland to Lord Camden then Lord Lieu-
tenant of Ireland, with his l.ordfkip's, both in Itrong terms ap-
provitg of the nectfrtty and advantages of loch an inftitution ;
he had to Rate alfu to the Houle a fad that had come within
his own knowledge :—in conkquence of the deficiency of build.
ings in the feminary, a coisfiderable number of Roman Catholics
were lately obliged to repair from that College to Lifbou, where
they were immediately applied to on the part of Dr. Walfh,
Principal of the Seminary at Paris, and a man of great notoriety,
to come and take their education at his College. He thought that
this fi sgle anecdote was in itfelt a ftrong comment upon the necet-
fity of fuch an inftitution in Ireland (H ar! Hear!)-the Gen-
tlemen on the other fide were willing to give the origissal grant of
Boccl but refuted the 13clool. required. He could not well un-
derstand this ; if their objedlion againft the inmate was becauk of
their hoftility to the very principle ittelf—they Ihonid not only
objedt to the inereafe, but they should move to retcind the entire
refolution--and if they approved of the principle, why deny the.
means aeceilary to the rapport of the eftablifhment t The Noble
Lord concluded with adverting to the Rate of Ireland, and admit-
ted that the fyftem at this fide, with retpeet to that country, was
ralically bad, and had been deeply criminal. He rejoiced, how-
ever, that the period was Taft as riving, when England would ac-
quit herfelf of her old and long debt to that great and important
part of the Empire.
Mr MAY laid a few words on the fame fide, when the quef
tion being loudly called for, the orSgi..al motion of granting
t3,or:sol. to the Maynoo:h Seminary wad put and carried without
a diviGon.