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Mr. D.,GIDDY rose, but who Mforlued by the SPe"l mad
was noguestion blibres the House. • •
'the Nero Manure Carriage Bill Was read a secptid tboae;a4
commit tad for, Mottday.
I Ice Comthittee oa deeTransportation to Bonet !ay. _ea'
leave to report to the Hoes and Mr. East' brought by the
Mr. WHITBREAD moved, that an Address be preseemi fel
the Prince Regent, /Br the last quarterly account of the King's
bealtb.Ordered.
On the question for the third aiding of the Irish Buster BIN ;
it.was opposed at great length by Mr. Baknisil and Mr. Trench;
and supported by Mr: Herbert, (of Kerry), and Mr. W. Vole,
who, however, agreed to expunge si veral clauses. The House
Alvided For the third reading 67. Against it S 5. ,
A message froin,the Lords" *twilit their aesrnt to the Levant
Trade Bill, the Wood and AstiesMU, the Soldiers' Wives Relief
Bill, and the Lottery Bill.
. AMERICAN 141,7 i.
Lord CASTLEREAGH moved the Order of the ,
,Day,. to consider the Report of the Secret Coo:
mittee.
• Mr. BROUGHAM rose, not to oppose the Or-
deio. ,but to ask thi.Noble Lord respecting the recent
news from America. It vas rumoured that the House
•ot Representatives had moved a Resolution for war
With England—he wished to know whether Govern-
-IDent had received.any official intelligence from their
diplomatic agent in America? Much alarm had been
excited by the report, and he was desirous of giving
the Noble Lord an opportunity of making a satisfac-
tory statement on this subject. If war should take
place, it was referable, in his opinion, to the decla-
ration published by the late Covernment in April.
The SPEAKER informed the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman, that it was not in order to clothe the ques-
tion with any debateable matter.
Lord CA STLE REA G H was ready to give all the
information in his power, though he couldnot answer
for its entire accut ail. Government had' received
advice from his Majesty's Minister in America, that
a warlike motion, of which the precise nature was not,
known, had passed the Howe of Representatives and
was carried to the Upper,Hcum, where the consi-
derat'on of it was for some time delayed, and the ex-
act result not known*

Mr. BROUGHAM asked if this information wax
official ?

Lord CASTLEREAGH replied' certainly, under
the explanation already given.

SECRET COMMITTEE.
The Order of the Da) being then read fcr the con.
sideration of the Report if the Secret Committee,
Lord CASTLEREAGH rose and stated, that in
calling the attention of-the House to this report, and
in proposing to fund a Bill uyon it, he was anxious
on the part of himself and his colleagues, to express
regret, that it had been deemed necessary, at so late
a period of an arduous session, to engage the seri-
ous considertaion of Parliament on this subject. Vo-
thing but a sense of duty could have induced them
to adopt this proceeding. It had beet, hoped that the
public peace might be kept by the ordinary course of I
law, and that they might abstain from Paving re-
course
to extraordinary expedients, without abandon.:
ing their duty to their ccuntry. The delay that had
occurred was an earnest of their anxious wish, that
Parliament might separate, without being required'
to offer.its interference. Some events concurred to'
make the Ministers sanguine. The county of Not-1
tingham had been restored to a state of comparative,l
nay absolute tranquillity, by the legal proceedings
in that district—and the late assizes at Chester had
so salutary an influence, that it seemed the evil might
be combated and repressed without aid from Parlia-
ment. It had, however, of late assumed such a cha-
racter of malignity, and of military combination, by
regular organization, and an increased desire for
arms, that his Majesty's Ministers conceived it would
be a breach of duty to keep back from Parliament
any longer. In this opinion they relied 'not entirely
on their own judgment—but the Lieutenancy of the'
West Riding of York made such representations of
the progress of the evil, as chewed it could not be
checked without further and more powerful assist-
ance. He (Lord C.) was sorry that the call of the
House had been discharged, but Government had
not, at that time,• the information which had since
reached them. In considering this evil, it appeared
to him better to look at the aspect which it now put
on, than to consider minutely its origin and causes.
At the same lime it was satisfactory to consider that
much of the evil arose from causes merely temporary
—the distressed state of the manufacturers, aggra-
vated by the price of provisions, and it should be ob-
served, that there was necessarily a degree of combi-
nation among manufacturers, which made it more
easy for them, than for an equal number of agricul-
turists, to communicate and congregate—yet, what- ,
ever might be the cause of the evil, it had assumed a
shape so formidable, having risen from levying war
on a few master workmen, to roam in search of new
cnemiesit was so malignant in its nature, so marked
in its combinations, so bound by its abcminable oath,
that the House would feel that it would be lulling
the country into a false security, to tell it, that the
existing laws could eradicate the mischief. Though
in the Committee all the circumstances and particu-
lars had not been detailed, yet enough appeared to
stew the enormous nature of the evil. An Honour-
able Member (Mr. Whitbread) had said, that the
present laws Vire sufficient for the exigency, and had
complained that he was not allowed to go into parole
evidence in the Committees He (Lord C.) had cet:
taitely thought, .and.so expressed himself, that parole
evidence would not be necessary for them to ',Ace
that full, large view of the subject which would be
required in Parliamentary transactions. It was evi-
dent that an evil existed, and it was necessary to pro-
vide a remedy. apprehended that Parliament
might interfere for such a purpose, without inqiiiry,
on the mere notoriety of the thing. In this case,' the
matter was sufficiently notorious, and the notoriety
was backed by the report of the Secret Committee.
His Lordship then repeated, that Government had'
received advice from the Lieutenants of the Counties'
and especially of the West Riding of Yorkshire, that
the present laws were not able to repress the evil—
they received also the same information from a va-
riety of Magistrates in the different districts, with de-
positions on oath, iince'confirmed bftrials and Con-
victiona---and also from *rot intelligence, received
from secret individuals connected with different
combinations, .whose accounts were confirmed by
the *subaecinent. 4etrona of those pribinations.—
And, indeed, Ahonglit s there was a diffgeoce of opi-
nion is in Committee; On MU particular pointy