Star.
London, England, 1824-03-20 00:00:00

quantity of Spirits mannketT77d Ireland, friss the lath alltherte
1822, to the 10th of January, 1823, and, hither, tif the It& of
January, 1824.-Ordered to lie upon the table, and to be rioted,.
Viscount CLIFDEN said that he begged leave to re...present*
Petition be bad withdrawn the other day (Moeda"), became
not signed consistently with the forms dike House: That
was now corrected, and he believed it wal now -receivable.
should therefore move that k be now bad Open the table • it was
from the Inhabitants of two Parishes in the Cooney of Kilkenny
against the Tithe Composition Act.- -
Lord KING presented- a Petition from the Inhabitants of the
Town of Miatley Thorn, in the tounty of Essex, praying for the
complete abolition of Slavery. The lame Noble Baron next
seated a Petition to the Above- effect from the Inhabitants of
Pariah of Croydon, in the County of Surrey. . e .„ • .1
. Lord COLCHRSTER, on behalf of their
DOW sitting with regard to the Office of Ouritlird=sent, movie
, that it be an instruction to the said Coeunittee to inquire Wats
office of Black Rod, an the other Officers of this House. Ordered.
Upon the motion of the Earl of Snarrssanay, the lieras.por
Cents. Reduction Bill, the County Jails' Act Amendmesallill, the
Army Mutiny. and Desertion Punishment SB, mad the Nu*
Forces Regulation. WI, were severally read a third timet'Veetelle
and tneomaged tirtise Commons., : 11
The Irehihd,Coen of Exchequer Regulation Bill, sod the Sow.
Bounties Bill, passed through Chloshmee, raid.were reported wkbr
out anmendansit, to .the House.-ol4uraned trellfessaday. '
HOUSE OF COM)10
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At &instal hoibrthe &sales took
JILL'S akir
toe. :
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Mr. LL'S (of Dublin) brought Aim a .610 Asyg
Acts foe the regulation of the pie of In win*.
feed a list time. •
Mr. AWTELL presented a Petition from the Licensed
Iwo( fir, praying for a reduction of theAuties
Otis Liersiem
Ofinlier reddens were presented by Sir X. ()tutela .the
it Virauallers of the Parish of Mary4sfsersaet
we, free the 'Assumed Vietmineri. of Brbwii, by. . AMID
trent' the Licemord Victualler; of &. Pancras, and astotker- from
those of Hounslow; by Mr. T. Warm' from the Laciestt Via
Wailers of the Ward of Portsoken ; by Sir T. Leunionniq from
of the City of Bath.-. These Petitions erentesiniellly imiereg
be printed. •th. ":' .4
Mr. TINTS presented s Plidden frees the biliMiOnen of the
!Borough of Bridgewater,pigaing for the Repeal of the Assessed
Taxes.--Ordered to be pr
Sir J. AfFLET a Pet tles (rani thavlshibitants
Aylesbury. she Abolition of Minetryils the:West' Indies.
Similar Werepgeseitted by Mu. Draws% from the lobs.
bleutts of Wliseinves and Ceekeraneuth ; by Mr; iketetetetuls
from the Ishabiteuts of Wye, Ashford, Brixton Margate, Sever
Oat, had Iketeeseet. all in the, County of Kent; by Mr. PM;
'.from the Inhabitants of ; by Mr. C. Cataxas, from the
Inhabitants of Ihinford and issgtoald, is she
by Mr, tia,Letrusreeireei the Isliphltents P`npsl
Sir T. lainetatees,feema the Inhaltheimef.
and of another town In Besess-Sevetollirfrabinntli
Mr. VERNON pees= ted a Peddl, *ol_
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Curries., against the Hides and Illtkraiegoltant
Petitions against the Combination, Laws werepassinind thlit
Sven, frost the Bea and Shosinekera 'Sri:Worn ;ky •
Batson, front the Boot and 4bosmaliers of Spltalields ; and by Mr..
Benoit, from those of Chothent.-These Petitions were siverally
ordered to be referred toolte Artisans' Committee.
Mr. A. CAMPBELL presented a Petition from certain Whole.
sale Dealers In Silk, praying for a remission of Waste
Also a similar Petition from certain Shawl rs.-.-Or-
'limed to be printed.
• Mr. DOWN IE presented a Petition from cereals red.
Sent in Scotland, praying that the importation of Scotch' Whiskey
Into Great Britain 'Mold be allowed.-Ordered to be printed.
Mr T. LETHBRIDGE presented a Pettus& from the Woollen
Illanufasturers of Wellington against the exportation of Lang Wool,
and praying that titesaase ollowaseensight be node to the hoilders
011isrelps:wool as his .intended. tit by ginned ensthe tabs* K. fo-
taiga silks on the stooks on lued.:-(11=0).-.01111widtoles printed.
Sr I. NlMPORTpostpoge4 ID dist* Pier klcialiann hr the
appointment of 11'' Com *tee tneessider the seats stavettipa in
Ireland, which stood for the 28th lastest. • _ •
Mr. BARING presented a Petition hint thaJtelellittrats of
Taunt*, prayingfor the abolition of Slavery, in thellraBBloodes..-
Ordered to be printed.
Mr. C. IL HUTCHINSON presented a Petition from site.Mork•
chants of the City of Cork, pra that the Bouittleitai DlAti.a..,
mightbe withdrawn. The le Member thin pytocendsd to
point out the evils which Weald *am. Parnaiba" In the hint* of
inland, where coarse Inns lifere manufactured, from the repeal
of those Bounties, and expressed f hope that the Chancellor of the
Exchequer might serloody reatuffidur the subject. •
The Petition was laid On the table, as was s trainer Petition, pre.
anted by the same Hon. Member from the Merchants of Oomb,
against certain West India Duties. /Thswere adored to be printed. ,1
Mr. H. G. KENNET presented a Alden from a Mr. Grant, I
el Margate, preying for a remission of the siateoces of those convicts
who were sent on board the hulks f dig-Pradtendery, lu costae-
open= of 'bondman which had p =Alterable.
Mr. LITTLETON presented a nide= Mainelrlesto **Abed- '
'Ake, aping Negro 81tvery.-040111Uti lio bathe trlSit
IRISH 111nillt11.3. •
Mr, front the lieu

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-. G. LAMB presen tii—lPesiskaa
chants, Fishermen, Boat-owners, and other Inhabitants,
of Dungarvon, in Ireland, engaged in' the Fisheries,
against the proposed Repeal of 'the Fishing Bounties.
The Petitioners were the proprietors of 1100 boats, and
stated their conviction that utter ruin to them must fol-
low the repeal of those bounties. The Honorable Mem-
ber proceeded to argue against the extending to those
poor people the principle of free trade, or makintietlem
the subject of any of the Right Honourable
man's (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) experiments in
political economy. ..__ .
Sir J. NEWPORT supported the prayer of the Peti-
tion, contending. that great distress mad misery would
ensue to the Petitioners were the bounties repealed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
Ithat with respect to the Bounties on Fisheries in Ire-
land, the Hon. Gentleman and the Right Hon. Baronet
Must be aware that those bounties were ofrecene origin.
He had himself voted for them, only because theY. firer
conferred for a limited period; and on the grcitii*
that it would be unfair to withhold friqn Ireland ibountyl
which we were going to establish in England,- ETtst.
bounties would naturally terminate next year,. having
been granted only foe a term of five years. He agreed,
however, with the.Honourable Gentleman and the
Right Hon. Baronet, that the operation of the repeal of
those bounties ought to be gradual.—The Petition was
ordered to be printed.
SILK TRADE.
Mr. HALDIMAND presented a Petition from certain
silk manufacturers, who expressed the satisfaction they
felt at the anangemeats of the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer with respect to the Drawbacks; they at the same'
time expressed their opinion, that if the Duties were to be
done away at all, they ought to be done away at onee..l
Mr. BARING said this was not a Petition in favbe
of the measure now before the House, namely, the sis -3
mission of French silks. These Petitioners were kepi
dtalers, having large stocks on their hands, and beast
no objection td put their hands into the public
Mr. HONK and Mr. PRILLin defended the
.memaai,
Mr. SLLIcE had never beforeheard any onsameeed
that we VIM able to compete with France in,the maw
facture of silk. Our machinery was not equal to the
French machinery nor oar wvtkpfen equal to them.

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drawback _ _....ir stostkralso, large, .
Mr. BRIGHT was happy that the question of Wool
1114 keen .brought lanyard.. Ile had heard rumours
abroad thattheocilispi-Mainfacturers were not to be
treated with the same liberality,as the Silk Manufac-
turers were; -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
this was not the time for discussing the question pf the
'Woollen Trade; but.. when the question came under
consideration, he 4Ould be able to spewthat the plan'
he should have t appose was the very same which had
been suggested. 1 the Trade themselves.
,As to the
tiquestion, of . Ott 90. Member, for Somerset, he could
Say, that neitr had, a greater exaggeration gone abroad,
thit whiel it'ad:beett circulated respecting the ex-
pense to-which the pnblko were to be put by the draw-
back.= this occasion. He had heard it stated ar
1,500,0001. 'now,„lst,the nature of the Trade this was
utterly-impessibleoas in all the communications he hid
had with the trade, be bad always understood that
they could not carry on their trade advantageously if,
they had large stocks on head ; besides, it should be
recollected, that Only half the duty was to be returned,
Iliad that only on.uncut goods. It could not exceed
100,0004 or 250,0001. at most. -
j ;.Mr. Alderman WOOD said, the quantity of silk con-
pined in a piece varied: he submitted, therefore, that
the quantity constituting a piece shoyld be defined.
' Mr. Evans, and Mr. MUNDAY (Member for Derby),
said their Constituents' were perfectly well satisfied with
the-regulations of the Right -Non. Gentlee.U.—Tbe
Petition was then read, and-ordered to be printed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply
we-question put to him by Mr. Curwen, as to the ad-
Mission of sugars for nee in- the distilleries, said it was a
citiestion which sleeted the Revenue in a very great de-
gree,ind thereOste required consideration and delibera-
nop -before it was decided upon. He was not yet pre.
pared-to answer the question, though he would endea.
*OW to do so in the course of next week.
; Atdet'man THOMPSON presented a Petition from
"certain mail dealers in silk in the metropolis. The pe-
titioners represented to the House the claims which they
had on the House for' drawbacks on their stooks; they
rikularly urged the necessity there was that the quan-
tity of silk cenesitutiag a piece should be fixed. Some
(webs rat! to.10:1 or 120 yards; now, supposing half, a.
fard only to be Cut of one of these pieces, . the tradie:
,k an .Would be deprived of the drawback on the re-
.Mai:cier.; whilst apiece of thirty, or even twenty yards,
not cut, would be entitled to it. He thought the quan-
tity constituting a piece should be fixed at-fifteen or
twenty yards, and in a future stage of the Bill he would
Move a clause to that effect.
The Petition was read, and ordered to be printed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that as the Counsel who was to have addressed the
House that evening, was prevented from doing so by
indisposition, he would propose that the House should
cesolve itself a Committee on the Silk Bill, in order
Bs
the blanks might be filled up so as to render the
th . intelligible. The Cooled might be heard on the
Moommiond of the Bill-on blonde'', on which occasion
the &scission might also take place. '
On the Motion of the Right Honourable Gentlemah,
the House resolved itself into a Comtitittee on the Bar,
Mr. HUME suggested that a drawback should ,be
allowed upon cut silks, when they were thirty-or forty,
yards in length.
, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER de•
elated that k was not his intention to make-any altem-
tion in the Bill, except such as he had aheady staved. .
After a short discussion in which Mr. Baum, Mr. S. bunt,
Mr. HALsmaams, Mr. Buses, sat Mr. HOules Peedeljeltedo .the
blanks were-filled up, the Hewn allMiweds die Report Neeeree fee
up, and ordered to be taken into IMMlbieledeil on Mds4iy
IRISH £llTillAt* • - •
The House went into a Committee:of Supply.
Mr. GOULBURN moved a $
t: fist of‘tilcia-fee the
Cork Institution.
r. HUME wished to know selsii,or 141411 ii gianCwas
made for Liverpool ?
' Mr. GOULBURN stated the'eases to he dissimilar... I
r
Mther. Sg.eaßaltCiEn
1806,d, itthhataditbiepleans hteoldeOxtendtst at the eottihmeer
places, when Code should not stand in need of it.
Air. HUTCHINSON bore testimony to the benefits
derivedfrom the grant to. that part of the country.
Mr.HUME wished to know the amount of the private
subscriptions? He heard they amounted only to 601.
Sir J•• NEWPORT said, the object originally was, ;raj
extend to the Middle classes at Cork the benefits of
scientific information. Great part of the funds had bee*
diverted from their original destination. He thought,
that after a -Linked time the grant should be extended
to other parts of Ireland, as for instance, to Belfast.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS had-great doubts.cif the policy
of such grants. Were Government to interfere; the
noble chanties of this metropolis would speedily decay.
Mr. HUTCHINSON stated, that he was absent from
the country when the grant was made.
• Mr. PEEL was against transferring the 'grant • ter
other placetiVille also had doubts of the policy of such
grants. A 'sum of £25,000 bad been, last year, raised
at Manchester, for diffusinginformation-on the subject
of the arts and sciences, by voluntary subscription. • -
Mr. MONCK hoped the grant would not extend be-
yond the present pear. ' .
8/17,000 for the Royal Dublin Society'. • ' -', - ' •)'
Mr. HUME had great doubts of the utAity of the
institution. He believed the whole of the Society to.be
a himbug. He wished to know what pupils had beia,,
sent to Ronde? The premiums amounted to £.50) foul
the present year. Why was not-the same plan adopted Ili'
in this country, where all premiums proceeded from in-
dividual subscriptions and munificence? Some inquiry
should be made into the subject.
i Mr. S. RICE said, that in consequence *1 valuable
*formation afforded by- the Dublin Society, ti com-
imy, with a c'apital of half a million had been firmed.
4.n individual was about to build, at his own -expense, a
Ilallery for tire exhibition of the works of Irish artists.
toMr. GOULBURN defended the utility of the Institution, from
e benefit that had accrued from it to the arts and sciences.
Mr. HUME thought the Institution should be assimilated to the
Piritiab Museum, and gratuitous admission be afforded to all. He
ma much inclined to propose a reductioe,of se 5000.
Mr. PEEL would recommend to the 800. Gentleman to sub.
ibe A'so, and become a member, as by that method. he would
' full power to acquire information—(A. laugh).

Irma end , Without k, itemiser ,
don, for opening the avenues tp the Hoe* al Parliament, and the
repairs of Westakinstei Abbey. • -
Mr. H U ME knew of nti votes ftir vridembhgthe street* of Loh.
don. He Mid *ways lirotested a the Caledonian (ital.
Sir. I NEWPORT p to Mdse.' the hilerest of the dtht
contracted by the osiers, part of Which paid at the rate
of six per cent. •
5e3500 for the Farming Society of- Ireland. •
X3OO to-thwEisyal, Melt Academy was the next grant.
Mr. HU the Dublin Society to be removed front erg
ciire-of the Floe and•hinded over to the Academy.
Sir J. NEWPORT said, the Irish Agoadesny had sondes to th
with the Pine ArM.: ..! • • . .
After a few wee*** Mr. Mr. Houk Ete. the
grant was agreed
£5OO for Experlidit Commissioners of Charitable Dooatiors
was the next veg.: •, ,•
A sum not"eiceistling £19,500 was proposed to be granted to the
Irish Linen Board. • • " .
After a discission_LbiwitiCh.t H. PAILSELL, Sir G. Hitt, Mr. V.
Firrotrato, Ste Nillr+OßT; Ir. C. GRAM', Mr. C. lIITTCHUMON,
Mr. J. Swim, Mi. GivouGibiiand Mr. Home, took a part, the
!rote was agreed to. • .4013 T •
A sum not exceeding St SASS was pearled to be granted for the
Board of Works io Ireland. . „
After a few words. from Mr. Hum; Goirmuini, and fir J,
Newtons., the vote :waeageited.M • -
Mr. GOULBURH 'then ineverk. that tbe• sum of .26,500 be
ranted to his Majestylg &liming the Dispense of publishing Pro.
etamations, and other matters of a public nature, in the Dublin
Gazette and other Newspeperi in Ireland for 182;
' Mr. HUME moved that the amount of this grant be reduced to
ore-half. •
• Mr. C. HUTCHINSON supported the amendment.
Mr. 9037L13T3M.N did than the sum voted for was merely an
estimate of -the supCoited expense. - On looking into the mode of
dispersing the Proclamations. in Wand, it would be seen that the
expense doubled the amount of ihr, sum which be now asked.
Mr. S. RICE thought that the• mode in which E'roclamanoes
were dispersed requielid minute inveltigasion, as' he was sure that
great frauds were practised in that department.
. Sir J. Nrwroal and 'Mi. G. Now supported the amendment ;
and after a few Observiticini from r. Dawson against it, the Home
divided, when therimppeared,-Em the Resolatlon, 51—Against it,
, 27—Majority, 24.
Mr. GOULBURN moved tbattho mei of ,15000 be voted for
defraying the expense of pantingeml Madras' the Public General
Acts of the sth Geo. IV. for. the mos of Public facers in Ireland.
A desnkory:creatiolinnsestdregirding the vote, in which Sir
L lisyttc.47, . Gammon, Mr. Huns, Mr. Bur.
faiwotivi,'Und. tO. gra:tool; Cart ; and the vote was ultimately
;greed to, •
Ms. GOULBURN datt- lam of £24,000 be granted
for defraybigthe expense rltwisnhol prosecutions and, other law
kill* for 111.116 i• •
4.llVl*lo.lllllLlalabeit to imp, If awe world he any objections to
fon& the parlicaler 111W1111h211011t • -
Mr. GOULBUS.Mgogßogollia resimapionly them
.115200 for defraying- toppirsee al popeolipOlos and other law
expenses in Irelaed-.
89756 for support of thsitiviiestant Clergy of Ireland.
£4OOO for defraying the Expense of imeirtirement of .Howtk Har-
bour, in Ireland, '
£5OOO to the Commissioners for the Tr Survey of -
Ireland.—The other Orders of• the Day disposed of,
and.the House adjongpot at Our o!Ctect. •

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PARLIAMENTARr.PROWDINGI . .
s.j3ARING again Contended, Illat. ' - lain nUME had we abiaulak If _dal Sift ikoll• cteitlemati . . .
•i tf4 ''. 'lnd been used in geidn - :p. word giant him a Committee at tmory. . .
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.• ucousit..i LotishlA IP. 4•,' -C • •iiiitoie•Faci _ 4,—.
. urldvibich-sigeolt) some observations limn Alderman Wools, Algounte
Temminst, Mr. Mosco, eir J. Norreitirs lin W. Witissms, and
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4 arbinfteillw.w lAD if6Ll, , of AP' •le of this - - 1.• , . 01.1 ' , Mr. Gorman, the resolution was agreed td.
pals, whoa h . frotAA ~ ".•-• ilu _ ' and 316 t lIITHBRIDGV 4 d,plierewere difereAt te.
Sillatariell"ttalltirePaYg? 4:466‘614" . . 410,000 to the Commissioners for widening the. Streets of Dublin, , •
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,lor ler. HUME asked what the people el I•lngisild had to do With
tit' fe.rrilrouseditArit'aiPilik„, whit* ggr, joai (before the House tioszlioitiullitct; bake, Chi . , wia-e.b., the
streets
of Don.?
Smiterott,GinsmAt. an • Mr. WA -.ere heard fee the - ' ' 111 , a
.Eitt/lequet said. would last all • Mr. J. SMITH said that the people of Dublin had al II
Pad a
Lints, Mr. .Ipant A. Mobare I .tht.nleoilliegn. •' ' ' . d fawhackaison.gbe,sto'ck on band; whilst....Qa.,tbst right. to haie their sues scidsand as ,t)st.pociols.or Scotland had . •
Stmaciros.Gmensat. in reply: deferred so • ' der bandit aca,sol4,‘ giii:t •$OO 0001: • isdurd &allay the Caledontow Canal. He protested aplesk the principle of ilk
Honourable Friend. ta 4l
" Smith and others tr. the Bank of &gime kiss Noe' ' • -
when Mr. SHZEWSLI. was heard in rift for chi ' • • "1-- .
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k'sn: Now he sh-niuklilke to know what would be the
, joie.. Secretary PEEL stated that Dublin had suffered more than
further hearing was appointed for Tuesday use: = •-•;::•:.."-.....z. •, . , , became uso.woollen manufacturers napectla a soy other city br the union of the ten; "wan. The Hop. 110
Mr. Amman from the Trensry,de!ivs!elyen Aem of: the of the drawback on their stoakigialaa which are large?: f • . G !MIMI. , 171E14 And many iatector Whited" the a:orue( 1:43,