Star.
London, England, 1822-07-27 00:00:00

blasted. by an act
of 1810, with

hundred thousani
In his opinion,
thus suffering
against the hskit
iniation Fund, and obliging persons to subscribe to
it, unless provision was made that these individuals
should in no instance lose their money, it would be
downtight swindling. To obviate this objection, it
would be 'necessary to state every possible risk which
'an individual could run. He also considered the Bill
as interfering with the prerogative of the Crown, by
firing and fettering the reward of public service. Far
all these reasons he must oppose the Bill; he would
rather have it withdrawn altogether; but if that could
not be effected, he should certainly support the pro-
positiou of the Hon. Gentleman opposite for making
the Bill an optional measure. Ile could not stay to
the end of the debate, and therefore he should not be
in the Hon. Gentleman's minority, hut he was quite
willing to shate with him whatever unpopularity an
opposition to the measure might call down. Himuit
be•excused staying through the discussion, for this
was the twenty-seventh time of the Bill having been
tix&l to come on, and to lose ones dinner seven and
twelty tines, was really too much I—(A laugh).
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER de-
fended the Bill, whichehe said, arose out of the Ad-
dress of the 'House last year, by which a reduction of
salaries was contemplated, and by which the Crown
was urged to adopr every possible measure of re-
trenchment and economy. It never had been denied
that the Army and Navy held out inducerbents .to
young men to leave other pursuits, and to enter theM,!
when it afterwards- became necessary to reduce them
to half-pay; but that they must have been aware of
before they accepted Commissions. The taxation sm
which this was to come was not partial, for part of
the earnings of the persons employed was to be ap-
plied to their own benefit. If a reduction were to be
made, it surely could not be better employed than in
proviJing for the old age of those whose salaries were
to be reduced. He believed that the greater part of
the Gentlemen concerned approved of this Bill, though
there might be inJividual cases of persons feeling sore
on the change proposed by this measure. Upon the
whole, he thought the House, having regard to its
consistency, could not refuse to entertain this Bill.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said this mea.
sine had occupied the attention of Governmeni.every
morning for three or four months. He had certainly
employed means to obtain as full an attendance of
Members as he could for the examination of a mea-

Aire so important as this. It was only a Bill cone-
, quent on the Address to the Crown, for an inquiry
' into the profits and emoluments of all Civil Officers,
with a view to reduction, in consequence of the in-
creased value of money. All situations of persons in
office were liable to a!teration by Parliament; for no
one would contend that they were freeholds which
lasted for life, and which Parliament could not touch
if the good of the public service required. Those
who argued differently did not do so with prudence,
not with any regard to the public service, though
'his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) had beau-
tifully put a case of an individual, in whose welfare
he no doubt felt a very great interest—(Hear, hear).
Every banker or merchant might modify the salaries
of his clerks; and he was not to be told that he should
not do so because the person had given up a fellow-
ship for his clerkship. Government had been told of
their clerks driving in tilburies, and he even
in curricles; and therefore it became their duty to
look into the nature of their salaries. This was a
duty, but he could assure the House it was a painful
one to him, for no man felt the value of clerks in
Public Offices more than he did. There was a moral
advantage in imposing on an individual the necessity
of providing for his old age out of his earnings in
ble. This principle was not new, tor it had been

trequently acted upon abroad, and in some cases at
home also. This Bill might be altered' in the Com-
mittee, so as to give a discretionary power a with re-
spect to superannuations to the Treasury. There was
every desire on the part of Government to make this
measure as perfect as possible.
Mr. CALCRAFT assured the House that he had
no communication with clerks or persons in office on
thi, subject.
Mr. HUME thought the speech of the Right lion.
Gentleman (Mr. Canning) most extraordinary, for it
went to assert that the moment a young man entered
a Public Office, the Government or the Crown were
not to make any change or alteration in his situation.
This Bill was introduced to the House, pursuant to
one of its Addresses to the Crown. He entirely agreed
with the Noble Lord, that there was no vested inte-
rest like a freehold in a clerkship in a Public Office.
No man in a merchant's service ever thought of re-
tiring 9n a pension, until he was totally unfit for
duty. In his opinion Ministers had been a great deal
too lenient, and ought to have gone farther, espe-
cially in the higher offices. Much had been printed
against this measure, and he thought that the Clet ks
had setter have been quiet; for as they were not con-
tented with the most lenient course, he would advise
the Chancellor of the Exchequer to withdraw this
Bill, and go at once to a positive reduction of salary.
Mr. MA (MYATT agreed in the principle of this
Bill : but he thought that a choice should be given
to the Clerks, whether they would accept of this su-
perannuation system or not. In caserof married men,
too, the superannuation ought to be continued to their
widows and children.—The Report was brought up.
Mr. cA LC RA FT moved an Amendment, that it should only
be at the option of persons holding situations.
The Marquis of LON DON DERRY said, if a Clerk died who
had contributed to the fund, but without taking advantage of it,
the money that he had contributed would ba returned to his
executors.

Mr. CA LCRAFT withdrew his Amendment, In the expee-,
tation that something' of the kind would be introduced on the
third reading.

The lila ;Vail then ordered to be read a third time on Monday.
The 'Willa Duties Bill was read a second time, and ordered.
to be committed on Mtniday.
The Canada Trade Bill wail read a third time, and passed.
On the renewal of the debate of the Mauritius and Ceylon
Commissioners,

Mr. WI LhIOT pledged himself to give every information on
the subject of Trinidad, to which it was sought to extend a Com-
mission also.

Mr. 11U AIR said, after what he had heard, he should with-
draw his Amendment respecting Trinidad.
Mr. MAltltYATTagreed to this course; hut he trusted that
inquiry might be instantly made into the Government of that
island.--The original motion was then agreed to.
The Cu•Keet.ixvn of the EXCHEQUER put offthe &amp Duties
11111 till neat Sesaion.—Adjourned at It use ii*Cleck.

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We understand the Coascr.una of the Ricoown hasbsuell,
or borrowed upon, Exchequer Bills, to the amount of nearly
t 4,00,000, since the Dividends have heels paid.

The New and Old 4 pet Cents. are 994, which is a rise or
per Cent. to-day.
Pommy Fusms.—The Spanish Mande remain steady this morn.
ing at the same prices u yesterday. In Chilian rands there is
a great deal doing, and the above Stuck is much in demand. In
New Prussian Stock the market has improved; and troa the ad.
sauce. There also is a dethand for Columbian &Inds.