Star.
London, England, 1823-06-10 00:00:00

£25800, if duet Ityn. would have been granted.'
There -
2C a charge of 0200, for snuff-boxes to Fa
reign Ministers. He accused the late ChantellOr of
die Eachequer of a breach of faith with the House
sad the Public. That Right Hon. Gentleman had
w i
ear that the indemnity from France would be ap-
iviied to the Ways and Means of the year, while a
• able sum had peen applied to the expenses
oft Coronation, without the authority of Parlia-
too. The Hon. Member concluded by moving for
a site Committee to enquire into the expenses of
the coronation, having so greatly exceeded the ori-
inal.tat had ement, and by what authority the sum.of
1000 oeen applied to that ceremony, without
trooonient of Parliament.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER corn-
Ained, that prev)ous notice had not been given of.
'the ge.olution. Be had himself beard nothing of it
a he came down to the House. Part of the increase
of lye expense had arisen from the delay that had
hers place from 1821 to 1821. His Right Honour-
able Friend had not the means of being sti ictly ac-
estate, as there bad been no similar case for sixty
Apr,. In point of fact, the sum of half a million
esidby France had never been appropriated by any
;goof Parliament. A considerable part of that sum
tad, by the sole act of the Crown, been applied to
&fortifications of the Netherlands. It was, there-
ke, competent for the Crown to apply the money
to the otpenses of the Coronation. He must oppose
&proposed motion.
colonel DAVIES thought, it impossible to.justify
thee:tome incurred, which was in the teeth of the
AppropriAtion Act.
Mr. RENNET blamed the expenditure at the Co-
ronation, which he should always call a wicked one.
Mr. COF.LW&N thought the. House should have a
feller aconent of this expenditure ; but be hoped the
Honourable Gentleman would not press his motion
to a division.
Mr. BROttgAM considered the expenditure as
eostetirmagantai-014,000 for a dress was shock-
ing—(llear, hear). He would not be deterred •by
diese cheers—he knew Uri, was a delicate subject, but
be would do his duty to the People. He did not hold
the Catenation as a light or unnecessary ceremony ;
on the contrary, in our trim iichical form of Govern-
ment, ie tvai a ceremony highly im
..urtant ; but still
616nm:ion; and prifuse expenditure was not to be
tolerated. lie had heard it said that the Crovril was
biredfor a dry at a large sum, and had unfortunately,
a; he was now informed, been kept ever since at an
expense of several thousands a-year. Ile trusted, on
jogairy, this would turn out not to be correct. He
mast here also adveit to another subject, namely—
the great inconvenience which had arisen, and still
a:groaned to arise, from the want of accommodation
s the Coolly of Law in Westminster Hall. He par-
itsla: ly called the attention of the Chancellor of the
Ilithequer to thi, subject.
Mr. 'moil r must protest against the doctrine of
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that the Crown had
setter of appmpriating money without the sanc-
Ye of PArliament.
Sr F. BLAKE said, as it now appeared, we stood
cc pretty situation ; for France had paid more than
ee-half of the expense of his Maje.ity's Coronation.
'his was not as it Oroilld be, or as it was formerly.
Mr. HOBHOUSE expressed his hope that some
Gentleman would propose to renew Mr. Ponsonby's
Sill, for preventing the necessity of a renewal of
Commissions, in case of the clernise of the Crown;
as, by such a renewal, £70,000 would be put into
the pocket of the Chancellor for the time being.
The Gallery was then cleared for a division. For going into
&Committee, I to—Against it, 65.1—Majority, 45.
Os reaJmission the House was in a Committee of
Supply, discussing a vote of a sum of £469,009, for
the Civil Contingencies for 1898.
Mr. RUNE wished for a detailednceotint of the
mann in which theaum voted for Civil Contingerf-
eies year was nioprOriated.
Mr. LtIgHINGTON sttjd,le had no objection to
dismount being laid belpre the House.
Mr. HUME objected to the item for the Rbyil
Yachts. He saw here, a charge for keeping up nine
yachts; this, in his opinion, was a number beyond
vim his Majesty could require, who only went to
stance a year. He thought also, after the *torn-
*sedation of the Committee of Finance, the Yachts
slight to be charged on the Civil List, and not
amongst the Civil Contingencies.
tr. ARBUTHNOT said, the recommendation
vas-thst this item should be an annual charge, and
stbe put asa permanent charge on the Civil List.
Mr. BERNAL said, there was a charge of 3800
*Odd pounds to Thomas Henry Flaskett, Esq. as
Sep-sintendant of Aliens. New there had already
inn MOO granted in the Miscellaneous Estimates;'
leconld not understand, therefore, how it was that
this= of £3BOO, was now proposed in the vote of
ova Contingencies.
Mr. Alt BUT H NOT said, the sum of 5,0001. in'the
liscdlaneous Estimates, though it was voted, was
sot appropriated, and therefore it was necessary to
tale 3,600/. now.
Mr. HU M E said, there was another vote, whiCh
lie Considered of more importance than any he had
t mentioned, and that was, the expenditure of Fo-
n* Ambassadors. The sums paid under this head
lereenormoss, though, in point of fact, we might
2, *di have no Ambassadors at foreign parts, for
!it knew nothing of what was going forward there.
He particularly adverted to an item of 1,500. for
ow& to Mr. Wynn, our Minister to. Switzer land; and
*OW to Sir William A'Court. Now, above the
:WOOL regular charge on the Civil List ter
bassulorsi there was a sum of 61,0001. charged in,
"Nil Contingencies; and he shOuld propose to
reduce the rote 52,70- •
Mr.CANNING said, that with reference to the
expenditure of the foreign embassies, he could assure
the ll*. Member that they were strictly kept in the
whole amount within the stipulated sum settled be.
,tween the Clown and Parliament in the year 1816.
'° plate was given since that time which was not
• Permanently assigned for the use of the embassy, and,
not as before, the property of the Ambassador. So
long as the scale of expenditure of 1816 was re-
cognized in this branch, and not exceeded by the
Crown, there ‘s, *slang'', .and for the proposed reduction.
Mr. LENNARD complained, that this item of,
npenditure was extravagant, and he should not con-
L wrier Iwhad dose hi% duty until he had again brought