Star.
London, England, 1809-03-21 00:00:00

Hon. Friend, whohadjust stafq a great
taut fact, had called cia hire to say whether
deein it necessary to periist in bringing f
motion. He could assure his Right Hon.
the House, that nothing but tlie impetioi
owed to himself as an Ttumble individuid,
the respect he Mt for the opinions of man:
of that House, who had all along though
that something more was necessarg t;ah '
tion i orris net *WI Friel* valich •it. aheadi
ben passed, to shear to the public the sense which
that House eptertained of islet' parts of the conduct
of his Royol !fitness as *did not partake either of
corruption or connivance, but which they thought,
nevertheless, were deserving of censure, would influ.
ence• him to rtsht in bringing forsvard his Resolu-
tion. 'With respect to the event itself, no man could
feel more sensibly than he did the loss the army and
the public *mild sustain by the resignation of that
illustriont-Personage—no one more than he would
rejoice at seeing him again in that impOrtant and ex-
alted Station. Be thought it would be llama that if
it came into the bands 'of a simple commoner, the
Treasury, that House, -and the public in general,
, would have every reason to regret the consequences
that might result from it. If Gentlemen would,
however, recollect the reasons he had *given for the
course which he thought it was necessary for the
House to pursue, the; would find that from the corn-
mencement the whole charge had met with no oppci:rl
nent more determined than he was. He lad voted,
against both the Addresses, and it was with extreme
regret he saw several Gentlemen who went the Nrholej
length, and many others who did so with only d.'
shade of difference. He for one (beyond. the Reso-
lution which he was now to submit to the House),
had no idea that the Duke of York would not go out
of it with clean hands. The House wozild recollect
why it was he bad been led- to take the present course.
'There were two Addresses, one of which went to re-
move hii Royal Highness, after declaring him guilty
of corruption.- His Right Hon. Friend, the Chancel-
tor of the EXchequer, .then *stated to the House the
course he meant to pursue. The first of these propo-
sitions was to put into the forni of Resolutions the
opinion of the House, absolutely acquitting his Royal
-Highness from all corruption or connivance, and he
further stated that he meant to address his Majesty for
the purpose of putting his Majesty in possession of the
opinion of the House, and this without calling on the
House to do any thing more. He must, therefore,
beg to call to their attention the situation the House
was in at the time he vsok upon him to -interfere,
' which he was the better enabled to do by the private
confidence which his Right Honourable Friend had
reposed iu him. He saw that the proceeding of his
Right Honourable Friend did not go the length
which many Honourable Members,who thought as he
(Mr. Bathurst), did, were of opinion the House
ought to to—and yet they could not prevail on them..
selves to join in either of the Addresses. He'per-
teived, therefore, an opportunity of proposing a mea.
sure which fully 'acquitted his Royal Highness of
eqrniption or connivance, and yet went so far as to
censure him for certain culpabiluies of which they
thought he had been guilty. It appeared to he a
measure which in itself afforded ground for a substan-
tive question on which he thought the House might
come to a resolution by way of aclmmition and 'ex.;
ample. That being the view in-which he had at first
taken it, he should state also that he could not but
look at what his Right Honourable Friend meant to
do fell short of what was due to those parts of the
charge which had been but too fully proved. it ap7
peared to him, that having done away the whole,
charge of corruption, he was desirous, that under the
sanction of the father, the House should pass over all
that was done by the son. This was-a strong reason
with him for wishing to propose a measure which
should operate in a certain degree to convey a censure
on part of the transactions which had so unfortunate,
ly taken place. In doieg this, be was unquestionably.
putting himself in a painful situation ; but feeling
that to be the wish of many respectable Gentlemen in •
the House, it did not appear,\ to him that he ought to
recede, and not place on the table some recortl that
should sheer the sense of the House on those parts of
the charges,-whielt, though not amounting to corrup.
tion or connivance, yet contained so much culpabi-
lity as the Honse ought not, in their .opinion, t
pass over in silence. Having taken this up as
course which he thought Parliament might we _
pursue, without having at that time entertain '
the smallest idea 'of the tesiguation of his Roy
Highness, be could not admit that such an event
having now taken place ought to cause any alter-
ation m the mode of proceeding he thought k beit
to pursue. HaVing disposed of the moral part 4f
the qUeition, Parliament had been called on to give
an opinion on chi: political part, and having come .to
a determination on the former, he did n A see vihy
they should not -cto the same on the latter. In- sub-
' *sitting his Resohition it was not his intention to
detain the'Hiniie by re-itsitint the arguments which
be had used when he first :introduced the subject.—
The 'only tpteOtion . that ,could now arise would be,
i
whether,
n the'enisienee laid'hefore the House, there
existed gmWs Airthe prpoOsjniiii, which heat that
MinnentskibM-. trithp-Conatderatioo Of the House?-
He, disavoWed hayi,nteggravated the Reielution with
any term which did out appear to hint tq lle true. It
did not appear to him that he was now called on tot
state what be might hay i done when he first offered
his prOposition to the House • but considering the
question of time, it might perhaps mike it necessary
to go into an arginnent as to the terms in which it
was couched. If there should be any that appeared
to be too strong, he would haVe no objection to mo-
dify them. He should/therefore at present leave it to
the House, whether any expressions in it were too
strong; It was his intention only to 'thew, that the
House had not .left any thing unattended to, that
they had acquitted him of all the criminal part, 'bit
had taken up the irregularities _which hid appeared
in the condnet i?f" his Royal Highness. There was
on the joiinials a Committee appointed to enquire into
die 'conduct ;)f the puke ofYork—there was a letter
of his Royal Highness to the House - and a resolu-
tion which declared there was nq ground for corrap7
don. If thii que§tion 4lottla3 be disposed Of by a pre-
vious one;nOthing would appear to, justify the Ifetise
in passiag over the citipabilities which it wis evident
had bee* kroyeti-s
n,
. such a thanner as to ae aetiong
impressi,al ell t e...
pulite. tiiind. There Wainothing
on the Journals 'to Thew that the Nike of VOA hid
resigned; -and therefore, notwithstanding the tom-

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not gone tar enough in :. .etink ...esolutions
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of his Right Honourable Friend, andite saw no reason
why something further should not be the consequence , said he sh!
of the inquiry;' in a case which lay between the pub- ; present q'
lie and the illustrious per on who had been the object cicomunica‘
of it. To explain his intention to the House was all aad it did
he was desirons of doing-Ainping he had succeeded ; lengths.
in that, he isould no longer. detain them, than by ; had hee_n pi
putting his Resolution iiikthe hands of the Speaker ! he could
to be read froM the Chair. • He gave
'the SPEAKER. then read thaltesolution, the purport : cred.t f
of-which was— not conce.
" That while the Hous• acknOWledges the beneficial effects re. hears st
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suiting from the services of his Royal Highness the Duke of York
out fiel ng
during the time of his being Conuti4nder in Chief, they
had - of undue
I not but
served with the deepest regret that in'consequenec t,t a connec-
tion most immoral and unbicoming, a pernicious and corrupt in- CO:t/d t
York wi.l
tence had been used in respect to Military Promotions, and t
able cent
'latch as gave colepr to the various reports respecting the know- !
'the Wobli.
fedas of the Commander in Chief of these transactions."
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Sirikf CIJRI IS seconded the motion. I lie distincti
he the CT
144 ALTHORPE said, that the Right Hon. in tai of
ties tleman had lamented the loss the public would 1 koviso
•
sustain by the resignation of the p*. of York as
fullest esteiri
C.oirimander in chief; but the question was, whether his own inn
that loss would not be nuch"dirninished, by the re-
could the
Moval of a' person who. had lost Ole cini4dence of the the Noble
'pate, and whose conditathad received so Many se- I nds
were animadversions in the course of the irmiry which
'hid taken place ? As to the argument of his rank, rurd concei
son of such
when he recollected the delicacy which many persons fill a rest
in that House had thought it necessary to use with this circumst;
retard to his Royal Highness, because lire was the the way -
King's son, he must own, he thought it much better' i a Period
that in responsible situations, such persons only should
it rwas the
be placed as to take away every idea of hesitation; in veral wee'
calling them to die strictest account, whenever their of York,
conduct should appear iii die -House to desCrve it, I Gentleman
His Royal Highness had, by the Resolutions adopted
by the House; been declared not guilty of corruption. delicar
He, for his own part; did think the DUke of -York i the Chanf
Lord's A.
had been found guilty. thought; hohowever,the meaning
question now stood in the way in which it ought, as to the Mime.
the House would shew by that night's proceeding, Honourable
that if his Royal 'Highness had not resigned, the Lord's Ainen,
House would have gone further ; but, as the ease now . that the
stood, they would evince, that by forbearing to
further, they did not wish to push matters to anygo or corruPtioi
un- ever inimr
necessary extrernity— bu tWonld be sad s fied withhaving !
Mat.
taken such-measures as •.Foiild prevent the rectirrei:ce with sa,
_of similar transactions in future. He did not consi.! 1 Airiztiato'
der the resignation of the Duke of York as a punish. I hot whin
merit, 'but as a step taken, in coosecnience of having, iihercv to
by, his itn-prudeire arid irregularity? lost the. cont- meet.
dence of the puislk. The- Right Honourable Gentle. Mr.
matilad-spoken, as if he seemed to think the' Duke although
of York might hereafter be restored to the high office an innpertair
be had so lately enjoyed. He hop &i. , however, that Acre was,
the Duke of York would never again be permitted to • the ,vs.4nal
resume that situation. It Was his intention to Move paw,
an Ainendnieni, and the pnrport 'of the •Aesitatieri !
go tcr.h t
he Would wish to propcg. Was— do therm
" That the Duke of York having resigned, the douse did not express:
now think it necessary to proceed further' on the Minutes of Es,-1- I caidicg,
dent* taken before the COminittee appoipted to inquire into the j Nr.
conduct of the Duke of York, as far as relates to his Royal High- I Resolit.
tress." Sir C 1
He had purposely put in the.word now" because the vote
he thought the Duke of York ought 'not at any time House,
hereafter to be restored. to his late situation as Corn.; of York
mander in Chief, and ithe.should, the 1-lOuse would I thought
resume their proceeding upon thexharges. 'He was rant the
convinced it was the opinion of the public, that his I man, in
Royal Highness ought never to be restored to his I Lord
late Command, and he luNied.sach a measure would
never be attemPte‘Sorne 'allusion had heen made to
the possibility or prol4ilitT of his Royal Highness
one day or other si.iieedltsg to the Throne of this
Kingdom. Should that ever be thecise, he hoped that
in the present proceedings his "Royal Highness would
read an useful andinernorable lesson, and that his
present humiliation might ire the means- of rendering
him a Sovereign who' deserved to .reign over such it
people, and who would choose his servants from those
classes of the community which would not require
either delicacy or difficulty. to make 'them responiiblee.
while they continued in office, or to remove them
from it, whenever it might be deemed necessary.—
His Lordship concluded, by handing his Resolution
to the Chair, which was read to the effect above-
mentioned.
Mc. W. KEENE said a few words, but in so low
a tone, it was impossible to hear him so as to' say on
which side he spoke.
Mr. LOCKHART was one of those who were
thoroughly convinced of the innocence of his Royal
Highness of all species of corruption and connivance ;
but did not utter what had formerly been reported of
him, that he thought his Royal Highness ought to
be puriished fOr a crinie*inst society—this was a
misrepresentation of what he said, but this was all the
complaint p ahe should make of that rnisrepresentitiOn.
He thought that when the House had declared his
ROyal Highness free from all personal corruption and
connivance, the House had done with the subject, 1
because the House, in his view of the thing, had no.
thing to do With the moral example, unless it hap,
peoe4 to 4e, connected with the public official duty of
his 114;1 Highness. Upon a hill View Of ihe'ease,
he felt himself called upon by his chity.to • negative
both the Amendment and the original Resolution.
now hefpre ths Pouse.
Mr. CAR ''WRIGHT acquitted his RON High-
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ness of all species of Corruption and COnnivante 14
Corruption, but yet thought him unfit to remain as
poniniander in Chief, as; had indeed stated be.;
roee ; rqr be thOught it Inlpoffihle foi 'his AtaYal
fliOness to remain ia that situation ; but, under
the -eircuntstance of his resignation, be did not see
the necessity •of following 'up *his Royal Ilighriesi. /
Re thought the R 404191 "seiple. gtonement, arid
iherefOre.hg. Fliquintsiqtg ag4.140 the P4riginangotieiii
arid the Amendment. but he did not go rise length
which some Gentlemen seezzled to "wish, that. of

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trh*.(osfipn - : 'Friend, he . gpt that he *KS'
forward his to 'Otisist hn his motions... ..inight,tiierh4pii,-b
Friend agd ttifobirkiiy from some,. ffijg die score that he i
ons.dlitY 61Prous to follow up " censure of the .11
d, added io fallen character—but 1 'Jared that he was
ny Members tuated by any 'such ba* motive—he had ru
ht with him object. He had, indeed, an object, the sub
the Resolu- which had bOri-thOught prwer, by dr sound
had already .die comthunity, viticrwoul4tertainly.
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that his Royal Highness never should
the office of Commander in Chief. He
icgative the Ameaddient as well as tLe
Motion. . .
HA RA said, that under all the circum.
f the inquiry, he did mot think there were
grounds to v*rant the. House in so far in.
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with the prerogative of the Crown as to re.
resignation or dismissal of the Command:r
He &link approve of either the Iteolii.
.menduient, and as such would not r,:te fie
thetii-
:HANCELLOR of the. EXCHEQuER
could detaidthe House very shortly on the
inestion.• He felt that, after what had beta
icated to the House,. enough had been doer,,
id not become the, House to go to furinu-
He therefore preferred the Amendment ,i !I .
proposed to the original Resolution, altlicr,...::
not vote with that Amendifient unAknenci.±.J.
his Right lionour.ible Friend, Mr. llathil:‘,..,
the fairness of his motives ; but he kamii
e've that the Duke of York would 1,..,.,..
c a a censure as his Resolution implied, v •II:.
as K his duty to resign ; the simple allegata.„
interference in thiliury promotions could
have tended to bwe that effect ; and how
is be stated, without charging the Duke of
.h that.cor n'var ce which the Right Honour.
uleman had joined svi'fb him in denying ?
ble-Lorslti.Aniendinent was more conatent4
etly stated; that a connivance existed ; audit
Chancellor of the EiChequer) could concur
Tinian; 'he should have no objection to concur
is he proposition of
.the Noble Lord to its
scent. But his was not only the conviction of
mind, but the decision of the House; and,
e *House, with any degree of reason, adopt
le Lord's Amendment, which stool upo..i
they themselves had negatiied ? The Nohlc
nceived it extremely objectionable, that a per.
;uch high rank as the Duke Of York should
esponsible situation ; and argued that,. from
;umstance, great difficnltieS were thrown 'ia
•of the late investigation. If ever there was
l when this complaint Was without foundation,
he present, when the House had been fiii se.
eeks examining into tbe'conduct Of the Duke
c, without any diflicialty, and the Right 'iron.
nan could not help saying, without any pecu.
[racy. The objection 'Whitt.: the Right Hon.
ancellor of the Exchequer. hid" eithe Noble
AMendment was, •CO the word *1 now" iii it,
aning of Which he had so candidly espixiati
House. With this comment bytnre him, no
rat:ire Membei . Could concur us tht'Nobli •
Ainendment--..-not even be who stial of oplitioit
: Duke Of York had been guilty of. connivance
.
aiition, or who thought -a Royal Diake, how. .
[maculate, shOuld be -excluded froth an Office of -.
pie Right HOnetirable GentleMin'cOncludel
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lying, that he hid given his support CO the
invent, in order to get rid ctf the' t. , olntion;
en this Wis done, he should ..thilik- .• ;; . if 4
to prOposcafurther amendment of that Amend-
HUTCHINSON maintained, that the Hots,
;la they had tetheir the_ tratificaticin; had al
- ' " ''' • di ill 'public. .
portain dui to -towar e
was, in 'his opiniaii;:a.fpeat deal to be donet: •
'nation of his Rayot•Wsimess did not satisfy
.ace of the cam '4; •He • *... :'l4 that it Ought tla
h to iheittf4.ihat this g . uie 'vies cfnposq to
CP strict pence, bg ceasing to time keSolutaxi,
>-.ve of their opinion upon his Royal Highnessis: :
:t, and tending, to prevent until 'r practices.
MANNING 'far af • hiS duly' to support the
ition of tbiflnneanrabliqeitltti:inopposite..
CILIA R.LE..4" PRICV•lert haiiielr j List i aed in
to he'had giiiii,•l"), the eviataCe before the
! from which he coarld not ittiOnte to the Duke
k corruption or ebnntvanoe et Ii ; • but 'he sun
it there ailaa'saffiCient is 14aafoitcler.ce to war.
he Motion Of. the 12.40t1-lOnottr4l4e Gende•
n support of which he spoke.
4 rOLKEStONt cdttsketed it absolutely
ary tbai ioTe cause should apoear on ihe.four-
I the Hiatisi why the idient proceedings should
If the Duke's letter which the Right Honou-
Gentlernin. had communicated had been ad-
d to the Eloise; it WeAtfdlailie !Ind?, dircrot
but all' the" Hoise lli- heartrWas a speech,
could not beentered on their Journals and coin•
d upon,' • The Noble *Lord could agree in the
idn.ent of his Noble Wiend,. acid in ;143'p:a
cordialli,thin ;ii 'cite •*gii.'!:, [[tows'• 'ft was
Lily very unit that, the Duke of York Should
eturn to his command, after the corruption of
many Members had believed hint. guilty ; and
NoLle Lord .agreed to' the word for tinicreation
might agree to it for Oilier rc:asoni, on acepunt
Duke's indiscretion? or his loss of the public
Fence. The Right Honottrable..Oranee•of
achequer had taken an objection,. to 'Wit' his
Friend had said upon the subject of the Royal
[yhOlditig.kladei of trust; the
.NOblellpigket
e pouittonofrhis-Noble Friend So be /wk.*
and howeitir lOtt the Hot,!Se 'might have been
ing.intit the I.ltites conduct, asked y.le'thir, if
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3 been ditty other pinion than. a Royal Linke,
,uld not long.ago4Onribein-remove4 frau his
ion ? The Noble Lord' 'roes :glad Ost Art •
urable Gentlerrimi hiteaded el:, tairstitrs o'
rlenep Atiaindinent, and thin chose Gentlemen
weferrt:d it as it originally stood, to "the Right
Gentleman's 'Amendment of it, would havean
tunic y tfeljeciaring such opinion of it.
.11E11.13Eltrcbilld not airrecti44c, ,ars7 what
appened, it was not proper for the House to
ed any farther. He cfauld not concur with the
Hon. Gentlentan in his Amendimentr but W..;
neon, with the eaciptinst i'f the sire sd ~ sww,"
he Noble tfiia's•lthss Acctionwe.
liiiiiiN"Etk/OFT -sppiorte'd the Amend-
'reserving 16 himieff then :& ofg;yiog his sub
ut.opinion a* to the. tiroad s• now.'!
cc! TEMPLE, in- consinitiesce of the reports of
resent rest nation Which had. gone arcrad before
teed the oape, had ranitte 11100$ pril4 -oar no
!! steps 9t114 bs'4ll44'AgSioNg she 1/04 of
nor
should he hate obi dad hinieelf upon
-Tice of the tionse,l4 if 41 yiten fir iqttef .
idi iii.dtikis. ion yi4i ' • iled Ne4Quid
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