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Abbe amosi. Ham*, „ad Base; a few Rogue, No,* The Duke of BrDiOREI reminded the Honfe that
and Schealiboaka; antra! 18-bab Qlabot fame Max, and he had on Friday tali called. their Lordships' at
num tention to the Refolutions relative to Lin:ioftus
Trey paving tbe Sole f tatablues Bills, come to by both Hdafes in the Semen ellcc,
°sr "."1" J'im chin, Ed""n; :and faro' • he meant at an early tiny to bring shag
et Tonabapa NA fattkpuot sad of Mr.
*6.'14=1;64, Wgrets-Areet. Chvonliew-mara. under their Lordfliips' confidetation again. He
ligasismikaitimaaaamaisaiaaoia olanigamantlaa. therefore moved; that they be now read.—Tite
• Ahab sal be Sabi Arr, yahoo; iv 409 .Rafulutions were read accordingly.'
...,,te dar allow, slot. at Caiilistrp Alma,Cartlie The Duke then role again, and obi-erred that a
L... F. HE Manor cif a. NE, CLE- :.Bill founded on thole Refolutions had been brought
MENSTOPXPrertaIX, dan at. ;so Acres of hp to, that Houfe in the Sdiou to which he had ale
rich peraeloi Lad. Prue Si it. Allmirew Minor ma Wick, laded,. but fo near the clofe of is. that there was
let to Meffn. Bowes, tatter an oteLeasn, exit/totem ma
F Airway, SAO a tlo/ per not time to give it the confideration to .which it
Lot 11. Blot Acres, or • - - • • • et Paitare Lind. in was intiticd.-r-That Bill proceeded enthely on the
Wick; to to Than Jain, al T a taut, at 6L per Mn. third Monition, and attempted in nime ctegroe to
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Lot V. Mask Pone, -• • I" Acs at rich iheae regulation, and gave them an appeal to the
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pinta ddiosakenstrion sae r . . aims. la& searter Sell nn. which in lAA was no elfeatud.pro-
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. alpaca arauelk.aba - sal. , Bill did. He would fir& sane. that the itatialar
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PARLIAMENTARr CROC.EEDOWS.

IN CONTINUATION FROM THE PRECEDING PAGE.

HOUSE OP COMMONS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 17.
lik-Wit I.IAM CIARY brought up a Bill for erc _ling a Hui
Mtlfkiet in the Borpifigh, which was read a firft time.
Mr. Maori. tiffught up the Report of the con....i:tt-e
vatted to enquire into the numb,: of perfoos fitting in the
Haute q Reprefeotatives for Ireland, who held places of in.
lament, which *as ordered to be taken into coofidernion w
113011 TOW.

Mr. Moor gave notice, that he mould is-morrow move fe
leave to brincln a Bill to are.crtain by name the pedal% wit,
Mould be entitled to fit in that Houfe, as Reprefentatives for
Ireland, and hold places of emolument.
The btioircut Debtors' Bill 'fru brought from the Houfe o:
Lords.

Mr. BRA cum brought up the Report of the Committee or
the kids Foundling Hapltal Bill, which was agreed to, anti
the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
Mr. VAN 111 TTART pretested a Bill for the farther improve-
ment of the Manufattures and literenlat of dm 10e of Mau :-.
Alto a DUI to render valid all abases de_rwhasisi Of abs or-
ders of his Majefty's Coszted, Min Se illbtliven In Ituffia,
ad the detention of Rada% DEO, awl dawns verds:—
Alfo a Bill to feeare a Peaks st soul yer mama to Lady
Jthereraenby.
Mr. T. Jones—Sir, I maw sillhesseely and cordially In
this Penton but wbea • Padget Lid WNW dis 140 May]
lass lately bear atm oak Ml* dim ha argata grates
the country, and, I stay lay. Mile emu/ nick borrore-
I do hope, Sir, that thi Ma as at dis odes sisait mime
who fell in Egypt, will OMNI be migrated by tbdr emery.
—The Bills were read sIA dm, gal ordered to be read a
fecund time to-morrow.
The irills Indemnity BM me mad a third time and pared.
• The Conunittees of Ways and Means aad Supply were de-
ferred till Monday.
MARTIAL LAW IN IRILAND.
The Order of the Day being read, for the Houk
to take into confederation the Report of the Secret
Committee,
Mr. Assort Paid, no man in that Houk had a
greater diflike than himfelf to coercive meafures,
and he was extremely forry he was under the ne-
ceffity of recommending then' ; but the Report of
the Secret Committee, which the Honk was in
poifeffion of, fully evinced the untranquil Rate of
Ireland, and had, he doubted- not, (hewn to the
Houle the neceflity of the meafures that were al-
ready adopted in Ireland, and of that which he
had that night to propofe. The Report, he kid,:
fully confirmed all that had been Paid in that
Houk relative to Ireland, and be was forry to fay,
that the difturbed Rate of that country feemed ra-
ther to increafe than diminifh. The Houle would
perceive that the flame of rebellion was unquench-
ed. As every Hon. Member had an opporttodty
of satisfying his mind by a petufal of the
he fhould not take up the time of the Htfrelr;
commenting upon it, becaufe he thought it was fo
leery clear that very little oppofnion could be given
to a continuance of thofe meafures which were
-foand fo neoeffary, and *hick had produced the
ben effeas. He then moved--g, That leave be
given to continue, for a time to be limited, an Aa
palled' in the preknt Seffion of Parliament, for
empowering the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to
enablifh Martial Law in that country."
Mr. WHITBREAD Paid, he was glad he had op-
pored the meafure now before the Houk, when it
was firt introduced. He Was then perfuaded it
:would not have any beneficial effeas, and cape-
rieace bad proved to him that the opinion he had
formed was a jun one; as they had then heard
from the other fide of the Houle, that the flame
Of rebellion was unquenched. This, be Paid, was
nothing more than he exponed. What effea, he
allied, -had Martial Law ? That it had not put
down rebellion, was very evident ; and he was
convinced nothing beneficial could be drawn from
it. He was well pedboded bow indreSual all the
oppofition he cold air MUM beer yet that i .. •
not prevent his *eh deed*. wbee theßill
was brought in, as be WPM teed while
themeafure. He transpillkr imMit. be
aseeithken
sacred in Imbued W • tillage. •NW *it
only offeaual veethed of relievior 'dint
front its dinettes, woidd be a yomm—emil the
period arrived, beamed Bede was to be sepodelL
.^ Mr. Hannay: ltamrwerld, it was evideMbete
the Report of the Secret Cdlllllllitted, due Woad
nose not in a worts Sate than &imams ; be rade.
thought the flue of that c was ineadedoiir
Ma dad• sot 'octave of the Bllilt as a witafpre
of aeselrey to avert greater evils; pad dbeillOofe
sod' recoiled it was Dot to be a penmeneast 111/1.
Ms outland that he acceded to the atedbit with
mitamice, and he was very to obit it
Aelial he anneceffary, if the Em re wee Miffed
reode
with a e ; but as that defira le eve* could
mot be tiMised at prefect, confltlent with the ho-
nour and dignity of the country, furl sesrares
nutnise reforted to as were likely to prove effedinal
in ftsppreSng the difcoatent that prevailed; and
die pedant WI he confidered as putting the axe
to the moot.
Mr. O'Hata Paid, that Ireland was in a very
afferent fituatien from what it was when the Bill
was Ira pared. He thought the Committee had
out a fair opportunity of judging of the Rate of
Ireland, not fitting in that country. He had a
eight to doubt the namments liven into that Honfe
floes they did not accord with thole he bad him-
felf received. He Paid by far the greaten part of
Ireland was in a Rate of perfeet tranquillity. Upon
that part of she Report of there being hie. Emit
faries in France, much firers, he fad, had been
hid, bat he willed the Mode to retie& that thofe
perfoas had led from Ireland a long time ago,
and it was ao wonder that they fbould be defirous
of creating a rebellion ; but he did not think fuf-
icient was to be dreaded from the machinations
of thofe perfoas to aide the prefent Bill via:4er,',
their fituation in France was not what it was. He
did not, however, mesa to oppnfe the Bill alto.
ether, bet he diked it to be in force as abort a
time as paibia. Hs then proceeded to comment
at differemparte of the Report, front whiathe
Joined is country was, as his own Ovate re-
pels bad bad it to k, in a peaceable date; and
liimught is Comaitwe took their foil:Kim' of its
Wog #s a &ate of rebellion store front what it was,
ohm sees err. By the re
two tispols :.,, itit ap-
Waviirda oily parts ef Ireland Is an entree.
sillitemeldwi that the red of the emsorry was in
- . ' -literimoot saidlislomee. Tbet Wag the

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cafe, he was in hopes it would not have
,beer
hought neceffary to put the whole Illand under
I &rtial Law. If the Secret Committee had refer
to the Judges, they would in his mind have
of into the beft channel to receive true informa
ion. There was now no difficulty in executing
to laws, which he was perfuaded the Committee
ould have been informed of, had they applied to
ofe who adminiflered them. He wifhed to fee
eland reinßated in the good opinion of the peo-
e of England, theref ore he wifhed every infor-
ation to be given which might tend to this end.
Sir F. Buantrr would not admit, with an Ho-
rturable Gentleman (Mr. H. Browne) that Mar-
!al Law had produced any good effeet in Ireland.
It was fufficient to read the Report to be con-
vinced of the mifchief it had occafioned. The
public mind was more exafperated, and the affec•
ttons of that country more alienated than ever.—
When no good whatever could therefore be ex-
pefted from the renewal of coercive meafures, he
oppofe any Bill that could tend to introduce
them.

Sir Roblin. Bottom defended the condua of
the Secret Committee. He was convinced that
the Bill already paired had bad a good effea, and
confequently he recommended its continuance,
from a conviaion that it would be attended with
advantage, and was likely to reftore tranquillity
to Ireland.

Sir Jour PARNELL hoped, if Ireland was to be
continued under Martial Law, k would be for as
ihort a time as poffible. He was very much in-
dined to think lenient meafures would at prefent
have a more beneficial effect than coercion. The
Sate of Ireland at this period, was rather that of
defpondency than reliftance ; and he thought the
Committee did not apply to thole fources frpmi
which they were likely to receive the molt correct
information. He agreed with his Hon. Friend,
that the opinion of the Judges ought to have been
taken, and the Committee ought not to have de-
pended upon the report of military officers, who
certainly could not be confidered the belt fources
of information. The whole Viand, he Paid, was
in a deplor#ble Rate, and emigration, shad in-
created to a molt alarming degree. if the Houfe,
inftead of patting Bills to continue Martial Law in ,
Ireland, would turn their thoughts towards amend-
ing the fituation of the poor, the unfortunate and
diftretred peafantry, which he was perfuaded was
their with, they would do much more towards re-1
Iloring tranquillity than ever could be done by
inch a meafure as that now under confideration.
He declared it as his opinion that the Committee
had not ettablitted its cafe, nor taken fuch pains
as it ought ; and at belt he thought there was more
prudence .than neceffity in the meafure, fince the
names of the Counties where rebellion exills are
not even mentioned. To one part of the Report
be muff give his decided oppofition, that which
Rates that the Landed Inter& of Ireland looked
to France for protection ; this hepotitively denied
—for he laid if there was one defcription of his.
Majefly's fubjefti more attached to his perfon and
government than another, it was the Landed In-
tereil of Ireland. However they might differ as
to particular forms, they were to a man attached
to the Britith Government. Any influation to
the contrary he fhould not hefitate tos declare un-
founded, nor could he conceive how it got into the
Report. Before he fat down he mutt &terve, that
in this year there were only la Courts-Martial, and
there were 74 in Lift year, which was a ttrong
proof that rebellion had decreafed. It alto ap-
peared that out of the 33 Counties in Ireland, 29
are in a tranquil Sate : he therefore thought Mar-4
tial Law fhould at Icaft not be extendedthrough-
out the whole Bland. In that part of the Report
which relates to England, the diSprbances are laid
to arife from the high price of provifions. Would
not. bralked. the fame palliation aPPIy with re-
fps& to Inlaid. where the dißurbances are laid
to proceed from a fpirit of rebellion ? . Have not
they the high price of prairies to murmur at
,situ! He mai, he Aid, again recommend tome
sedum to ameliorate the fituation of the people.
as the only means of relining tranquillity. He 4
hoped theenquiries would be liberal, particularly
with refped to the peafantry, from which he pro-
mifed himfelf and the Houfe the molt happy
cads. .
Mr. Lawn agreed with the Hon. Baronet in
giving every praife to the men of property in Ire-
had, andif the rebellion ffiould ever extend itfelf
to dikommtry, the men of property here need not
be aim* to follow their example • had it' note,
been far iok loyal exertions, Ireland Mull inevi-
tably bistibts loft. Did the Hon. Baronet with
for any mudire that thould give fecarity. to•the
lives and priperties of the loyal inhabitants of
Ireland, Visa did, this was that very meafure. If
when dia ansaktre was at a former periosi before
the lima. it was ebjetbed tbsiewas net (Efficient
evidence if its neeiffity, there ontrosatomaimple
mad of evidence evaitolood faille Imo% of the
Secret Coo mitts is addition es is be knew of
his own knowledge draw perfats belies lately
been murdered. For taking a part againik the Re-
bels, and their landlord had received notice that he
alto should be murdered. He was firmly con;
' viewed of the stalky of the Bill.
Sir WILLIAM NIWCOMIIII (aid, Iftlatid was in a
very deplorable Rate and was every hour becom-
ing work. If Martial Law bad not citified, ten
times the number of judges at prefent affix% in
behind would have been infitfficient to carry into
effed the ordinary coerce of Law ; and if the Bill
now awed for did not pats, the country would be
undone.
Mr. Joess.-0 Really the reprefentation which
the Gentlemen from Ireland now renews with
Rronger liatements than when kit time the Mar-
tial Law Bill paired. makes me dagger much ;
sad I do ne" think - I can is that Oatement well
ipbte aigassa the intrododion of this Bill propolid.
—Boo Sir, I thould certainly like to know, whe-
ther er met (es has been referred to very properly
by an Hoeserable Member), the Judges have been
applies( to: this alteration in the Civil Law
Feed
was at all ' r
Ter joie AILIIIIkkin Cap. ' wilted it to
be clearly andialkoodithu M was very far indeed
front imiwirg to caA way reflation too the loaded

,Intereft of Ireland, of whore noble efforts be had
the higheft opinion. It was from a convitlion of '
their unthaken and unalterable loyalty that he re-
gretted the exillence of a palaec in the Report of
the Committee, which even would create a fufpi-
cion of their dilaffeCtion. •
Mr. Oc Li, atter briefly Rating the fuscous which
induced him, when the Bill was formerly before
the Houfe, to delineate the principles, the rife and
the progrefs of rebellion in Ireland, as illuftratilg
the neceffity of the meafure, expreffed his unwil-
lingnefs at prefent to repeat his former are-'
menu. He had only to fay, that his former opi-
nions remained unchanged, and that he had now
the fulleft conviction of the law being NI wanted
in Ireland. Whatever might be anted of the
tranquillity and peaceful habits of particular dif-
triEts he believed that the fpirit of difailtaion
exifted, to a certain degree, in all parts, and that
this difatfeEtion was ready to burft into=
rebellion over the whole Wand. It was •
fant for him to be obliged to draw fuch a pie—
ture of his country, but he did not think that
he would be doing his duty to his coal:Gents
if he did not Rate faits on which the aecafty
of a meafure of pmteßion to property, and en•
coumgement to loyalty might be eflablifliaL--
The Hon. Member then proceeded to detail a va-
riety of fads to eftablifh his pofitions. He ad-
verted to the apprehenfion of a Committee of the
difaffefted in Dublin, over whofe Prefident's chair
was laced a Portrait of the Fiat Conful of France.
He (poke of the exiitence of einiffaries in thiscoure
try, who laboured to debauch the principles of the
people. He mentioned the eriftence of a Dbnov
tory at Paris holding a correfpondence with ann.,
ther at Harnburgh, and that in its turn conveyed
information to the DireEtory in Dublin, by the
members of whom intelligence was circulated over
all the fnbordinate Committees in the various dif-
nil% of the country. Having dilated on there
topics, he in oonclafion preffea on the Hattie the
prolongation of the Bill, as necefrary to the fafety
of the empire.
Mr. Coors followed on this fide,Vindicated the
continuance of the Bill, and paired Tome is_er high
compliments on the adminierntintiof the Marquis
Cornwallis with more particular reference to this',
Bill, in the application of which that &Arlon&
Nobleman Teemed to him entitled to the warmer;;
gratitude and praife of Ireland.
Mr. ALEXANDER denied that the *
..of
land were at prefent in the Rate o
which had been reprefented. This
(if it did exift) was confined to trams
fchemes had been &nitrated by the salient efforts
of the loyal part of the community. Be repro-
bated the ufe of vague affertions about the necef-
fity of meliorating the Rate of the poillre-
land, as tending to give currency to a tion
that the Houfe were negligent of their interefts.
He fpecified the (urns granted laft year for feveral
purpofes intimately connected with the agriculture
and improvement of the Country, and tufillstebj.
no means inclined to believe that it was the
tion of the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir. J. Parnell)
to countenance any dangerous opinion, yet he
witted not that any fulpicion of the Houle being
inattentive to the improvement of the &nation of
the People of Ireland, &odd go abroad to the
public, with the fanetion of 63 gnat a name.
On the Motion being Of, it pared without &
divifion, and leave was granted to liring m the
ntrisnisive
The ATTORNEY Gentlest. rofe in purfnenee of
the notice he hidgiVen,and of the retommentation
oldie Committee of Secrecy, to move for leave to
bring in a bill, the ()bled of which he merely
thought it neceffary, in this Rage of the hufinefs,
shortly to explain. It was for the purpolh'bf
in-
lemnifying thole who had aged in aria confiftency
with their public duty, but who, from the inade-
quacy of tbc prefent milling laws, could not de-
fend themfelves ag3inft the charge of aging not
Aridly legally, withOtit breach of that public duty,
and *Of tke tooft folenni private engagements.—
Confidering that thefe ass had been founded up-
ion the btue4lntfis of public duty, and had opera-
edifor the-henit and•advantage of the public, he
thought isci indemnity could be too ample; and it
was aierefore his intention the Bill fhould provide
that all perfons irnpleaded for any filch a 4 Amid
be exonerated from all penalties or damages what.
ever,upon alledging they aged in pnrfuance of any
one of certain Ras, which, in the aft now moved
for, would be irderted. He moved for leave to
bring in a Bill to indemnify fuch perfons who
had line the aft of February, 1793, been inftru.
mental in apprehending and detaining or caufing
to be detained in prifon in Great Britain, any per.
lons on fufpicton of High Treafon, or otherwife."
He pi poled, he Laid, to bring in the Bill to.mor:
•=vlhat it &add then be read a firft time, and a
time on Tnefday, and in the mean time
'onald be printed.
W.,Gitay laid, as the (econd reading was pro-
pofed to be on Tnefday, and as there would then
be probably a fuller attendance, and the contents
of the Bill would be better known, he would for-
bear entering at my length into the fubjefl. Even
in the prefent Rage, however, he could not, upon
the grounds ;Rued, agree to the meafure. The
Habeas Corpus had been frequently fufpended,
lint the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had not
Dated any precedent of a meafure fimilar to the
prefent, and upon the firft appearance of (uch a
meafure, novel and unprecedented as it was, he
could not help faring it was die molt inconfiftent
of all the inconfißent alb which had been brought
forward by his Majefty's Miniften within the tuft
fix years.
The Avroaiiar Grmm., in explanation, Paid
there was a precedent of a fimilar meafure in the
year 1746, and another in the year t 7tio.
Mr. ARC HDALL Paid, the principle of the mea-
fure was by no means novel.
Sir b F. B. Jonas oblerved, that perfons had been
imprifoned without evidence, and thole who had
opprefied them were now to be indemnified with-
out enquiry.
Mi. TIERNEY Paid, the recommendation for a
Billof Indemnity came from the very perfons who
went° be indemnified, fence feveral of dine indi
viduals bad formed a part of the Committee, and

contributed to make up the Report. He ttooofit
it orange that if there were doubts of the legality
of the proceedings of his Majelly's Knitters, that
Come meafure of this kind had not been btotight
forward during fix years ; and he was afraid, to
propofe it now would give tome colour to an un-
founded report which give
abroad that there
was a juggle between his Majefty's late and pre.
tent Minifters. •
Mr. Prrr aid, he would not detain the Houfe
in this nage of the bufinefs, but he thought it ab.
folutely neceffary the object of the Bill Should not
be mifunderftood. It was not a Bill to jullify or
to fanction certain individual meafures, but was
to pieced perfons from being puitifhed for Ads
performed in arid conformity with their public
duty, but the legality or propriety of which they
could not defendwithout endangering the lives of
others. Information of the higheft importan4e
had been derived from certain fources which ought
not to be clifclofed, and which could not be dif.
&fed without endangering the lives of thofe who
gave it, and cutting off all thofe refources for the
future • and it was to prevent this difclofure, that
the prefent =dun was fought for. The public
fafety, as well as the fafety of individuals,required
the meafure; and Curtly it was not to be urged
that evidence was to come before the Houfe, that
the fafety of difelofing it might be lodged of.
Surely the Committee was not to be vitiated, be-
eagle one or two refponfible individuals were mem.
ben of it. He acknowledged his own refponfibility
was deeply implicated, but he difclaimed fuch an
infmnauon, and he trotted, when the general in-
dependence and refpedability of that Committee
wero.confidered, their impartiality would not for
a moment be difputed.
Mr. TlielitY explained, and raid the Committee
had no authority to make filch a Report.
Mr. Barioue contended the Committee had a
full and coMpleat authority to tuggers to the
Houle any meafure which they might think expe-
dient grounded apdn the papers refirred to them.
Dr. LAW/ATMS was ready to grant indemnity
after a fall and fair enquiry, but not otherwife.
The CHANCELLOI of the Exensopsa hoped
what had been fluted by his Hon. Friend would
completely remove the doubts (tasted as to the
power of the Committee to whom Tapers had been
referred. They were undoubtedly at liberty to
reconmtand whatever meafures appeared to them
expedient. The Sm. Gent an (Mr. Tierney)
had contanded the Miaow propaed did not fairly
aiire mot thofe papers* he contended it did, and
there they were at ilfne. It was impoilible the
perdu whom it was wilted to indlimeify could
defend the lfelves wirjmut full/Awl,*
_obliga-
tions of sad pirate duty, asddsertiore the
1111 Widkr4ed to what
bad bees. by (I& Tier.
nay, 111thf ebetweenlis Majelly's late and
prefent.l6:- bethought it wholly unworthy
of that Hon. Clettleman. •No .fuch exprelEon,
bowery, whether it ems frost that Hon. Gentle.,
man, or any other perfon, !bald deter him from
dun
Elu's public duty?, nor thould any infinnation
of a ggleizetween bu Maje.ftre late and prefent
drier him from giving a confcientious
vote for the prciteOtion pfthole whole meafures had,
in his opinion, fared the country. With thofe
Minifters he had fonietiMee differed in opinion, but
never with raped to thole meafures which had
Paved the country from deftrogion; and he would
not-be deterred from amain to prated that' who
had prototted the country. He' now allied that
for others, for which, by and by, perhaps, he
mould have to ark foi himfelf., Let it not be tux-
darltood, however, that he futmortsd the prefeat
*alike from any felfilh conliderationt---every one
who did his duty was entitled to pioteCtioo, and
he hoped that whilit he performed • the duties af-
figned to him, the Lime protection would be ex-
tended to him.
Mr. Geer, in explanation, Paid he belonged to
the Comniittee to which the Right Hon. Gentle-
man and others had alluded; and though he did
not concur in opinion with the Committee, he cer-
tainly had not flioken in difretedful terms of it.
The Coaticat.toe of the txcoectore laid, it
was not the Hon. Gentleman to whom.he had al-
luded, but to thous with whom-be was in the habit
of ading.
Mr. Ts las T'hoogh I slid not affert that
there was a juggle betweeti the late and prefent
Minifter, I retain the right of accufmg them, fhould
I make up my mind that•fuch has been the fad.
It may again excite the anger of the Right Ho-
' nourable Gentleman ;• but if I think the matter is
fo, he (hall 'etrtainly hear it. I have no interelt,
no difpofition to attack bim, aqd in kindnefs to
him (a laugh) I wills the matter to be cleared up.
I ern him to appear with proper dignity-in the
eyes of the people; Co that they may not ;think
the country was in fad gOverned by a man who
does not for the moment choofe to appear in
the character of a Minifier. At prefent, how-
ever, I have no proofs, and I make no accu-
Cation."
Mr. Burros defended the conduct of the Com-
mittee, and afferted the purity of the motives which
influenced the recommendation upon which the
Bill before the Houle was founded.
Mr. Ti , in explanation, declared, he bad
no slifpofition to arraign the motives of fuch Gen-
tlemen as might be inclined to vindicate the cha- •
meter of the late Minifters. He would not deny
them that merit of acting from conviction which
he claimed for himfelf.
Mr. Jones Paid, I concur is ith my Hon. Friead
(Mr. Tierney) in thinking this Bill (which I mall
f
peak of more at large hereafter) is intended to
(erten the Ex-Minifter, as Inch I object to it. As
to the word juggle. I have often heard it, and
have (as I have -kid formerly) differed with Tome
Friends on the fubjed ; I do not believe it myfelf.
I allure you, but all a can fay is, that every day
I am eternally allied, Who is the real Minifier?
The motion was agreed to without a divifion,
and the Bill ordered to be brought in accord-
ingly.
lb...Ronson' oa 'account of the Intends of the
hour, deferred till tomorrow, his promifed sum
few an Account of the Subfidies granted der,
g
ing the Wax.—Adjournet.