Star.
London, England, 1807-01-27 00:00:00

OAK BARK JUL.

Mr. BAKER prefented a petition from the Tan-
ners and ManulaCturers of Leather in the County of
Hertford. againft the Bill now before the Houfe.
The petition was ordered to lie upon the table un-
til the fecond reading of the Bill, and the petitioners
had leave to be heard by theinfelves, their agents,
or Counfel againa the bill.
Similar petitions were prefented by Mr. Cartwright,
from the Tanners of the County of Northampton ;
by Mr. Herbert, from Southampton, Suffer, and
Wilts ;—by Mr. Ballard, from Devonthire ; Lord
F,,rbes, from the County of Longford ; and Mr. Wil-
berforce, from Sheffield.
Thefe feveral petitions were received, and ordered
to Fe on the table, and the Petitioners had leave to
be heard by themfelves, their Agents, or Counfel,
at the fecond reading of the Bill.
The Order of the Day was then read for the fecond
reading of the Bill.
Lord TEMPLE laid, he fhintld move that the bill
be now read a fecond time, merely to put the fubjeCt
before the Houfe in the regular way of difcuffinn, and
t: _n he fhould linen with attention to any fuggetlions
that might be offered.
Mr. HERBERT could not give his agent to the
Bill as it now flood. He thottAlit that it wac a fubjeCt
which required a great deal of caution and delibera-
tion, and one which the Houfe fhould not decide pre-
cipitately. l'he fopply of bark from this country was
by no mean: equal to its coafumption, without a
confiderable importation. There were a variety of
interelis to be attended to in the difcuffion of this
quellion : it was not merely the tanners that were
interelled, but there were many other trade,. The
fh :e_makers and the curriers were alfo bound by the
penalties of the Alt now exilling, and they were
bound in fuch a manner as to give a fecurity for ma-
nufafturing the leather in the manner prefcribed in
that Aa. That Aft was therefore a fecurity to the
fhoe maker that the currier would aQ fairly; and that
he fhould receive his leather tanned in the manner
which the al directed. To take away that fecurity
without due conlideration, world appear to him an
all of great hardfhip and injuflice. Whether it would
not he right to repeal the whole of the aO, inflead
of fufpending a tingle claufe, was a fubjeft which
deferred very mature deliberation. He thought the
only way of determining a queltion of fuch compli.
cated interefl, and of fuch great importance, would
he to refer the whole fubjett to a Committee of she
Bottle, who Mould report upon it. If it appeared in
the fame light to his Noble Friend (Lord Temple),
Er &odd beg leave to lugged 'to- him the propriety
of undrawing his motion fur the prefent ; and he
t: give notice, that he would move to mor-
row for 'he awl ...nuo-ott of filch a Committee.
L ral I'EMPLE acquiefeed in the fuggellion, and
was glad t shear the opinion of the landed interest
pronounced up n the little&
Mr. WILBk. ft FORCE faid, that he had received
a great tuimber of letters upon the Itibjea, at.d found
that it had tacked a coofsderable degree of ioterell,
and thetetose required an ample confederation.
Lord TEMPLE laid, when he firft m.•ved tor the
fulpenfion of that Clank, laft Sefton, he had Hated
his reafott fur fn doing was, that there had been a
confiderable number of informations then laid for
penalties under that AQ. The Clan& inßißed penal-
tie,. on any pfrfon getting bark by any means and
felling it, but i• h.rd lain dormant for many years, and
had not been atted upon ' • but lately a confiderable
number nt informations bad been laid for penalties
under it, and therefore he thought it neceffary to
apply that remedy. The Timber Merchants were
now the only perfons who were by law entitled to fell
hark, becaule when they bought the trees, it had
been held by the firfi legal opinions, that this did not
corn.. under the nr:aning of the AB,tefpelling buying'
balk fur the putpofe of felling it again. Notwith-
fl nding they appeared to be the only perfons legally
authoti•ed to fell bark, yet the pradice in England,
Ireland, and Scotland was. that the trade in bark
was carried on by regular dealers in that commodity.
Although he was convinced of the neceffity of the
meafute he propoced, yet he thought it a paramount

duty to bring it forward in fuels a ',tape as would be
nsoit agreeable to the Houfe and the country. He
therefore contented to withdraw his motion for the
prefent. in order to wait for the Report of the Com-
nsittee to be appointed. He concluded by moving
the fecond reading for this day fortnight.
Mr. ROSE thought the fubje& was fo complicated,
that there was not the remoteft chance of getting a
report upon it in a fortnight, or hardly in two
months. There were, perhaps, fame parts in the
Adt which it would be advifeable to retain, particu•
larly that part which refpeeed the Triers of Leather.
Mr. SHERIDAN approved of the Committee
propoled by an Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Her-
bert) although he was aware that all meafures of
this tort ufnally originated with one of the Board of
Trade. He was in hopes that this would not be the
only claufe of the abfurd All of James the Firft that
it would be found necefary to repeal. What he role
to Date to the Bottle was this—ln the courfe of left
&Mon the clank was fufpended until 40 days after
the beginning of the prefent Sellion. The Houle had
now fat above 30 days ; he, theref..re, thought it
would be the belt way to continue the fufpenfion for
two months, and as to the general fubjea, the Houfe
might wait till their Committee had reported.
Mr. CORRY obferved, that in Ireland they had
no home (apply of Bark equal to their confumption,
and they imported the greaten part of it from this
country ; he confidered the fubjea of fufficient in-
terea to ;unify the appointment of a Committee to
examine into it.

Mr. WHITBREAD conficlered the Aa of King
James as wholly inapplicable to the prefent times,
and he objefted as much to the part fpoken favmur-
ably of by an Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Rofe), as
to any other.
Mr. G RATTAN obferved that the Bill had been
compleatly mifunderltood in tome parts of Ireland,
and that it was in confequence of ihat mifunderitand-
ing, that a Deputation had been lent from Dublin to
petition againit the Bill.—The fecund reading of the
Bill was then poliponed for a fortnight.

MARQUIS WELLIMAY.
Lord FOLKSTONE Paid. that in purfuance of
the notice he had given on a former night, he thould
now move for the printing of certain papers, which
are already before the Houle, refpeding the affairs
of the Nabob of, Oude, and as they related to the
clndult of the late Governor General of Bengal, the
Marquis Wellefley. The Noble Lord obferved that
this fuhjeta bad occupied a great portion of the time
of the Houle, and a very confiderable (hare of public
attention during the lall Salons of the late Parlia-
ment, as introduced to their consideration by a
Gentleman not now a Member of the prefent Parlia-
ment (Mr. Paull): (hould that Gentleman again come
into that Houle, he would no doubt resume his objee,
and proceed againfi the Noble Marquis as he origi-
nally intended. He alto thought it right, in this
early Rage of the proceedings, to announce, that it
was not his intention to follow up the matter with
calling for articles of impeachment, but to move
certain refolotions, and leave the ref} to the Hnufe to
difpofe of as they (Mould deem expedient. He then
moved that cer,ain papers, which he enumerated,
relative to the affairs of the Nabob of Oude, should
be printed. On the cpieflion being put,
BLord HOWICK obferved, that as the Noble
Lord only mentioned his intention of going into
the Oude charge, he wi(hed to be informed whether
he means to go into any otlatrs, and how he means
to ptofecnte it ?
Lord FOLKSTONE replied, it was hardly fair
to put fo dired queflions to him, nor did he think
hinifelf bound to anfwer them ; at the fame time he
would obferve, that it was not his defile to follow up
the proceedings of the Houle with moving for articles'
of impeachment, but leave that, or any other mode
that might be adapted, to their discretion; whether
he meant to go into any other charges, he then felt
a difficulty of answering. As to the Carnatic huh-
nets, a Right Honourable Gentleman oppofite to
him (Mr. Sheridan) had promifed to undertake it
Tome years ago ; but he has certainly thought fit to
relinquith the matter ; and if no other Gentleman
would attempt it, he would undertake it, humble as
he was. He might, probably, fay the fame relative
to the Mahratta bufinefs, but he would not pledge
himfelf to it.

sir JOHN ANSTRUTHER laid it was exceed.
ingly deferable that, it thould be brought to an itfue as
loon as poffible, and he wifited to know whether he
had made up his mind on the other charges ; and if
he intended glually to go no farther than to move
refulutions, and leave the final decition with the Houfe.

Lord FOLKSTONE gave the fame anfwer that
he had before given, and added, his objea would be
to move for a Committee, on whore report a refoln-
tion, or a tiring of refolutions, would be moved.
Sir JOHN ANSTRUTHER acknowledged the
candour of the Noble Lord, and appeared fatisfied
with his anfwer.

Mr. WHITSHF.D KEENE entered into a dif-
cuffion of the affairs of India, and trolled the intref.
tigatinn of the condo& of Marquis Wetlefley would
forthwith he entered into.

Mr. BANKS was happy to find that the obje& of
the Noble Lord was nwt to proceed to impeachment,
as, in his mind. the Eaft India Judicature law was
fufficient to reach him, and he thought it ought to
proceed fo, although Mr.Paull might think otberwife,
and as k, were he again in that Houle ; how pro-
bable that was, or how defirable it might be, was
not for him then to fay ; at all events, our charaaer
required it Ihnuld be brought to a fpeedy conclufion.
Mr. SHERIDAN noticed the obfervations of the
laft Honourable Gentleman, relpeaing Mr. Paull,
and obferved, that how defirable it might be that he
Amid again return to. that Houle, was for that Hon.
Gentleman and his friends to confider ; but how pro.
bable h was, would be for him to Rate, and he could
venture to fay, therefore, that the probability was
very problematic indeed. As to the mode fuggeQed,
of not proceeding to impeachment, that method he
would certainly deprecate, as impeachment would
be the molt conftitutional, the other molt expenfive
and haraffing to the individual, and confcquently
uncnnftitutional. And with refpeti to the accufa-
tion of the Noble Lord, that he had promifed to pro-
ceed in the Caroatic Bufinell, and neverthelge had
dropped it, be begged to be underilood that fuch
was not the cafe. Two years ago he Rated the grounds
nn which he gave it up, but at the fame time he
Rated, that if any other Gentleman would take it
up, he should have his fincere and zealous fopport.

Lord iTOLIESTONE, in explanation, raid, he
,could be glad of the Right Honourable Gentleman's
foPPorf ; and he begged the Houfe to believe, that in
his undertaking the proceedings again& Marquis
Wellefley, he was not eausted by any prejudice, but
by a fenfe of duty, as the honour of the Beitifircha-
raaer was at Rake.
Mr. WHITBREAD congratulated the Houk and
the Noble Lord, that he had undertaken the arduous
talk ; but he deprecated the idea of fending any de
linquent to a trial in the Court of King's Bench from
that Houle, when matter enough appeared to bring
him before a more augull tribunal.
Mr. WELLESLEY POLE acknowledged the
candour of the Noble Lord, and thanked him for
the open'and generous manner in which he conitated
himfelf. His Noble Relation was defirous that the
matter lhould be brought forward with as little lofs
of time as poffible. He trolled the whole 9f the
papers, as they relate to the Nabob of Oude, and
the part the Marqus had taken therein, fh.trld be
printed, as, from the whole matter being before the
Houle, they would be better enabled to judge of his
Noble Relative, who at prefent laboured under every
fpecies of charge, from error and fraud up to aaual
murder, and of courfe he was more defirous, from
a confcioufnefs of the purity of his mind, that it
timid he concluded.

Mr. SHERIDAN role a fecond time.

The SPEAKER Paid, Mr. Sheridan, to explain?
Mr. SHERIDAN (aid, that did he think at worth
while, he Ihould claim the right of going much be-
yond explanation, as the Noble Lord had experienced
the molt extraordinary latitude. He heard, however,
nothing worth his noticing, but the Noble Lord's
prefuming, contrary to all parliamentary order and
decorum, to aferibe to him motives for relinquifhing
the Carnatic queflion ; and the motive affigned was,
his fear of lnfing his office had he adhered to it. He
wifhed to all the Noble Lord, what title or right
he had to venture to afcrihe motives to him, or what
ad of his political life he would have the rafhnefs to
Rate as juftifying his coarfe inlinuation that either
deface of gaining office, or fear of lofing it, had ever
yet influenced his political condud ? The Noble
Lord made great profeffions of the purity of his own
motives on the prelent occafion. He (Mr. Sheridan)
underflood too well the orders of the Houle, and the
rules of good breeding, to queftion his fincerity ;
but he would advife him, as a young beginner in an
arduous litnation, that the fureft way of gaining
credit to his own profeffions, is to abflain from pre-
fumptnous infinuations againfl the motives of others.
Mr. THORNTON Paid, that when the fubjed had
been introduced !aft Seflion, he was one of thofe who
wished to go to a certain length, bat not to the whole
extent of an impeachment. Thnisgh he remained
of the fame opinion, yet he confelfed that, under the
circumftances of the cafe, it was neceffary, viewing
the queftion as it regarded the dignity of the Houfe,
the character of the Noble Marquis, and the interelts
of the country, to have it refumed and again fub-
mitted to Parliament. He was fare that, whenever
the whole cafe came fairly under difcuflion, the
condo& of the Board of Diredors would appear to
be meritorious and honourable. The quenion being
loudly called for from every fide of the Houfe, Mr.
Speaker then role and put the motion, which was
carried.

COMP4ITTII OF SUPPLY.

Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up the Report of the Committee of
Supply the Refolutions were feverally rcad and arced to.
Mr. JOHNS TONE moved, that the Army Eftimates, andthofe
of the Ordnance and Cummiffariat Departments, be priuted.—
Ordered.

COSIMITTSC OF WAYS AWD MEANS.

The Hou7e refolved it fell into s Committee of Ways and Means,
Mr Hohhonfe in the Chair.

Mr. PARNELL moved, that x,cm,pcoL Idlb currency, be
granted to bra Majesty in l'reafury hills, for the fervice of the cu •
rent year, which was agreed to, and the Report ordered to be re-
ceived to-morrow.

The is Militia Services' Bill was read a tidal time, wad paffed.
-Adjourned.

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

The late hour to which the Houfe of Commons fat on Saturiay
morning, and the influx of news on that day, obliged us to cur-
tail the eoncluGon of a Debate, which embraced a variety of in-
melting details relpeding the Military Force of the Natiot
The preffare of Foreign Intelligence yelterday, and our antict,
to Allah the publication of the Taws Rertirr of the COMMIS.
SIONVIS of IVIILITAIT ENIVIIT this day, SS We expedt It will
Icon occupy the attention of Parliament, have hitherto pre-
vented our recurring to the concluflon of the Debate Waded to.
of which we have prepared a fummary to be laid before NW
Readers tomorrow—if no heavy debate take place Masi* to
prevent as.

TUESDAY, JANUARY s?.
PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE OVLOCItt
Conkla, money, 6±-for Fab. 6011—Otnnimen 4 pram
Each/quer Silk par to sa• Prim
PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY.
3p. Ct. Red. Ann. 64141 I India Hands, 31 a aaprem.
3 per Cent. Cont. An.fttriffi EzeL Bp4, s.. peen. par
4 per Cant. Na • I °snafu= 31 pram par
5 per Cent. Navy, 9544 Tickets lid_ to.
Long A. sy ts-joff I =or are. 60ef

We are AiH unable to afcertain whether any degree
of credit is due to a report circulated yeaerday, that
fubfequently to the soth ult. there bad been another
battle, in which the French had gained fome import-
ant advantages over the Ruffians. The intelligence
was received in private letters from Holland, which
Rate that the Ruffians, 'rinsing to follow up the ad-
vantages they had gained, had followed the enemy
too precipitately, and, became the viitims of a flrata-
gem linglar to that by which they fuffered fo feverely
in the battle of Antlerlitz. The 3d of January is
mentioned as the day on which the Ruffians attacked
the French and fell into the fnare prepared for them
by the enemy, whofe previous retreat is reprefented
as having been only a feint to bring them into their
toils.

We are not, however, 'without hopes that this in•
telligence will prove unfounded ; for it is not ealy to
conceive that Inch a General. as BOSAPARTI would
expofe his army to the danger ciralmoft certain de•
ftruaion merely to draw his enemy into a Inure, and
Inch we mull fuppofe to have been his conduit, in,

the precut Wince, V ye give credit to the
news in all its eircumfiances.

That the French army was expored to
citable deem:lion, may be pthered frets

own bulletins ; and theft, as sight be
very far (bort tithe trntb.

This day other accounts have been received
confirm chore we have idready gives. of

fes obtained by the Ruffians and even to a mut
extent. His Majetly'a Hoop NiONTINCIALS, Capt.
WM[lll5Ol4 arrived at Leith on Friday lea Nal
the Eyder, 'which he left fo late as.Toefday
He was informed by Capt.Morr, of the hired armed
Duke c.f York, in the Eyder, on the 18th int that he
had a letter from the Confol, Rating the total de,
feat of the French, with the lots of EIGIiTY TNOtt.
sum mew; that the Ruffians had met with repeated
checks, and retreated with the lots of feveral piece;
of cannon and many men, which had induced
the French to advance confiderably beyond
Warfaw, where they had found it neceifary to p
into winter quarters, or perhaps rather to totteodi
themfelves ; and that, in this fituation, the Raffia;
after collating ail their forces came up with the
French and attacked them, the refult of which wit
the MA bloody viaory ever obtained.

Captain Mnrr left the mailer of his flip at Ten.
ningen, in order to bring off the letters that came by
the mail, but he bad not returned to the fhip, wiles
Captain WILKINSON left the Eyder. It was, hes.
ever, Rated, that the Emperor of Russia bad pro.
claimed his brother Coasrat rINS King of Poland;
and that the lan accounts from Auaria bring int&
gence of the Archduke CH/ALl:being ready to &be
a blow in Silefia.

Capt. WsLlClllsom brought no !hips under his col.
voy, as none of the Leith !hips bad come down frow
Tonningen when he came off. Betides Capt. Morel
chip, he left the Starling gun brig in the Eyder.
The Arta• frigate, Captain Du Pi BAIL, arrived d
Yarmouth yetlerday, and has brought fimilar at.
counts from Copenhagen, which port the left lalt
Tnefday. Before the Arcata failed, news had at.
rived there of the French army having been defeated
by the Ruffians with the Ids of 60,000 men, and s
number ofitannon.

After fuch a revere defeat, it is difficult to believe
the enemy could fo foon retrieve his affairs, ani
therefore, we with not to credit it ; but (Lill it
not impoffible. Indeed tome affirm that the 49th,
sotb, and 5111 bulletins, have been received by
Government, in the laR of which the French
(peak of a battle fubfequeat to tlit 29th ult. in which
they were vidorious. We anxioufly look for farther
accounts.

The IA accounts from the Auftrians were, that
the Archduke Camuss was ready to alike the blur
in Silefts.

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