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Statesmen in Europe. This. was not his own opinion
merely, but one which had also been declared by his
Noble Friend, the Chancellor of the University pf Ox-
ford. He was afraid that a good deal of jealousyand
distrust had been expressed In Ireland upon the subject
of extending education. But it was culy just for the
House to make allowance, and remember that they
were PrOtestants, and that they were legislating` for a
large majority of people holding different religious opi-
nions. It was their duty to endeavour to abate the.
jealousy, and not to make it a ground for refusing the
education. It appeared that education was making
some progress, and that a great many schools had been
established upon private foundations. There was an
individual, humble in rank, an inhabitant of the city
he had the honour to represent, who was originally a
butcher, and thence becoming a drover, had realised
a certain quantum of _property which he devoted to the
support of schools. As a mark of the benefit which
these schools conferred upon society, he would mention
that the Quakers always rook the boys educated at them
in preference to any others, for their good moral and
orderly conduct. In Tuam there were 116 Roman
Catholic schools, and in another diocese 159, containing
together 21,000 scholars, who were taught readin'g,
writing, and arithmetic, at the rate of twenty shillings
per year each. He felt it was the duty of the Legisla-
ture to undertake this subject, and he saw two modes
in which it might be done. The one was by a Com-
mittee of the House, the other by a Commission to pto-
ceed to the spot, And to report their opinions. to the
House. A Committee, he was aware, would better
attract the public attention of this country to the subject,
but a Commission was preferred by those who were en-
trusted with the Government of the country, and whose
peculiar care it was to watch over its tranquillity and
happiness. 'lme was another ground upon which he,
made up his mind, in favour of a Commission ; anJ that'
was the great advantage which Ireland had derived
from the labours of two other Commi-sions, which were
appointed to inquire into the Courts of Justice and the.
Revenue of Ireland. Of the good which had been done
by the latter, and of the readiness with which the Go-
vernment had carried its recommendations into effect, it
was impossible that any man could say too much in
praise. After thanking the House for its attention, the
Right Hon. Baronet concluded by moving " That an
humble Address be presented to his Majesty, praying
that he will he graciously- pleased to issue a Commission
under the great seal for inquiring into the nature and
extent of the several institutions in Ireland, established
for the purposes of education, and how far they are
either wholly or in part supported by the public funds;
for inquiring into the state of the diocesan and district
schools, and the nature of the instruction there given;
for ascertaining what regulations will be fitting for the
parochial schools, and to report such measures as can
be adopted for extending the benefits of education to all
parts of the people; and that his Majesty will be gra-
ciously pleased to order and direct the prikeedings of
such Commission to be laid before Parliaments",

Mr. GOULBURN highly complimented the temper
and moderation of the conciliatory speech by which
the Right Honourable Baronet had prefaced his motion.
If education was a subject of high importance here, how
much more was it,so in Ireland, where its first object
was to raise the people to a level in acquirements and
tranquillity with the people of this country. He agreed
with the Right Honourable Baronet, that all irritating
topics ought to he avoided when treating of this ques-
tion, and he should 'think himself highly culpable if he
made use of any cxpeessions calculated to disturb the
unanimity which ought to prevail. The greatest anxiety
was known tu.exi.t on the part of the people of Ireland
to procure education, and great progress towards af-
fording it had certainly been made. The attention of
the higher classes had been mote called to the )übject,
AnfitbeLegiblature had liLewise seen the necessity of
interposing. He should content himself with express-
ing his concurrence in the motion, and with once more
' acknowledging .the temperate, judicious,, and manly
speech with which the Right Honourable Baronet had
introduced it to the House:

Mr. J. SMITH-saidithat in consequence of the man-
ner in which the motion bad been met, he should not
detain the House with what he had intended to say upon
the subject.. He felt grateful for the concession which
the Government had made; but while speaking upon
the subject of education in Ireland, he could' not help
expressing his surprise at the manner in , which the
House had heretofore neglected it. He recollected
hearing, some years ago, a very eloquent speech
.from a
. Right Honourable Gentleman, at that time connected
with Ireland, setting forth the advantages of education.
But he had since husked in vain for the -effects of any
practical measures adopted by that Right Honourable
Gentleman in an improved tranquillity of the country.
Tney could never expect the people of Ireland to change
their habits, unless they taugnt them how to do better.
To use a familiar comparison, they had their dogs and
their horses trained before they expected them to con-
tribute to their pleasure or use; but man—man alone,
was to be left a prey to his own natural vices and follies ;
and then came hanging or transportation for acts which
they had not taught him to avoid. While people were
kept in this state of darkness, and we neglected to edu-
cate them, he protested against the application of our
bloody and ferocious laws. He confessed that he should
have preferred the appointment of a Committee before
sending out a Commission. A Committee of that House;
he thought, was always sure to get at the whole truth
of anything that came before them. He trusted that
in the nomination of the Commission, the Government
would exercise that candour
.and fairness which alone
could make its services of value.
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that from the course which
'the debate had taken, he should not have troubled the
House, but for an observation addressed personally to
him by thellonourable Gentleman opposife, who charged
Rini with having made a speech in favour of education,
and then with not having acted upon it, because they
saw no consequent increased tranquillity in Ireland.
He begged to observe, that whatever might have been
done since that period, the visible effects of education
could not yet be expected to appear. But he wasanxious
to convince thf Honourable Member that he had not
neglected to act'up to, the sentiments expretsed in. that
speech. The thirteen Reports of the Commissioners
contained ac-cou:its- of abuses existing In endowed
schools, and the fourteenth retommended plans fOr a
general s) stern of education. With tespett to the thin,
teen first Reports, he brought in the Act
.which Pre:
vented the tecutreace of the abuses they exposed. Afier
turning the other part of the subject in his mind 3rith
the greatest anxiety, he was afraid that the Uten state of
_public feeling would not peruitt that he.shoold Propose
another Act fur the appointment-of Gominissiouers to
regulate the education "of Ireland. There was at that
period so much diarost and jealousy, abroad, that he

felt, instead of advapcing the cause of education, he
should only be doing- it disservice. To shew the extent
of progress'which education was making In Ireland,
mentioned that a society, composed of persons of dif-
ferent religious persuasions, established in 1816, 320
schools. Their object was to have a system which would
at the earliest period of age unite the Protestant and Ca-
tholic, so that they might afterwards grow up in amity.
He wished to see the instruction in such schools founded
upon true Christian principles, but far religious doc-
trines to be left to the Pastors of the different sects. In
the Society he had named, the number of-schools grew
in two or. three years to 513 ; the next year it was 727,
and last year the number increased to 1100. There'
were other institutions in the country which had
like-
wise forwarded the interests of education. The beit
way, therefore, was to examine into their several merits,
and adopt such plans as appeared most eligible. Let
them inquire—let them appoint Corn mi • sioners whom
they could rely, and then they should know how to act
with safety and with satisfaction. He agreed that the
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utility of the measure would greatly depend upon the
constitution of the Commission.
• Mr. BROWNLOW thought the only hope for Ire
land was in a liberal and eonifilete system of clucation.
lie should object to any plan which did not combine
and unite the Protestant and Catholic in one ezablisli-
mein. Any attempt at having separate schools, for the
,wo classes, lie should consider as a wretched and
wicked system of perpetuating the feelings 9f animosity
which every honest man desired to suppress. lie would
never consent to any specious plan of morality with.,ut
religion; for although instances were pointed out, such
AS Mr. Hume and whets, of men who were good moral
characters without religion ; yet he defied any man to
point nut to hi rib the people iOto were ever permanently
great and happy, where religious instruction did
not form a par tof their education. He wished it to be
distinctly understood that he desired no conversion or
proselytism, and bast of all the conversion of boys at
school. The Ilonourable Member concluded by con,-
plimenting the Right Hon. Baronet upon the manner in.
which be had brought forward the motion, and ex-
pressed great pleasure in Pgreeing with his opinions„—
The motion was then carried unanimOuslys
. LABOURING POOR.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL presented a Petition from
Matthew Phil i ipi, civil engineer, praying that the House
would order an inquiry into the condition of the labour-
.
poor.—Ordered tobe. printed.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL then prefaced the following
Motion by a few obseiiatiods—
" That a Select Committee be appointed to inquire into the condi-
tion of the Labouring Classes, with a view to the practice of paying
the wages of Labourers out of the Poor-rates, and to report their
observations thereupon to the House."
Mr. Secretary PEEL suggested that some alteration
in the wording of the Motion would be necessary, as it
proposed to inquire into the condition of the labouring
classes without limit—a sea on which they would be
embarking as it were without chart or compass. He
thought it•would be better to have the following words:
" That a Select Committee be appointed to inquire into a pr:actice
which prevails in wine parts of the country or paying wages for
labour out of the Pool...rates, and to consider what measures may
be carried into ettecuilnbfor theptupose of altering that practice."
Lord JOHN RUSSELL adopted the prOpOsed words,
the Motion was agreed to,, and a Committee was ac-
cordingly.appointed.

SILK DUTIES RILL.
- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
the third reading of the Silk• Duties Bill.
Mr. DAVENPORT made a few observations upon
the Bill.—After a few words from Mr. BRIGHT,
Mr. P. MOORE thought more time ought to be
given than was proposed, by way. of •experiment.—The
Bill was then read a third time and passed.
GAME LAWS.

Mr. S. WORTLEY moved:the recommitment of the
Game Laws Amendment Bill.—Agreed to. -And •the
Rouse being in a ComMittee, some verbal Amendments
were agreed to.
On the Clause describing the anfinali to be treated as game,
Lord MILTON objected to the enumeration of those
animals in the Bill which had not been declared game
by the Common Law. He had several other objections
*to other clauses in the Bill, but he did not wish any
legislation to take place on the- subjecti for any enact-
ments that might be
_made would only cumber the
Statute Book, and increase the rig-our and odium with
which the Ganie Laws were viewed by the people of
`this country. .There was one clause particularly, and
which gave scope and direction to the whole clausei,
which he could not pass over in silence, viz. that v..hicli
vested the owner of fifty acres of land with the pro:.
perty of the game which was found oh it. This was
giving a power which was dangerous in its effects. If
in any country a code of laws were obnoxious to the
great mass of'the people, and if they were so flamed
:hat their execution was left to a small number of per-
sons, surely the.weight of them would be increased ten-
fold by multiplying the number 'of prosecutors. He
wished this clause to be altered or modified in some
shape or other.
• Mr. S. WORTLEY had never-meant that the animals mentioned
in the Clause should be regarded as Game. By the Bill, a man who
' had a foot of land could shoot Game.
Mr. BERN A L thought the Clawe should be accurately worded,
else the taking away the animals might be regarded as felony.
Sir J. SEBRIGHT said, the Game Laws were unpopular, be-
cause they gave to one what should be the property of mmiy. He
thought a more popular measure could not be brought forward..--.
At present, no man, unless he was the son of aft Esquire, could
shoot a hare in his own defence—(•Laughter).
Mr. MONCK wished all the animals not regarded as Game by
the Common Law should be excfiiiiM thiii the Clause. • -
Mr. S. WORTLEY said he hacr,itsi Okit•etion ; and the Clause,
so amended, was agreed to. ' '
Mr. GOULBURN said, be should' oppose the Clause that gave
away the property; •ol` the- Game from the Lord of the ;s4inor to the
tenant or owner of the soil.
Mr. BERNA L contended, that the fights of the Lords of Ma-
nors would not be Infringed lay the Bill.
Mr. PEEL could not agree with the argument of 'the Noble
Lord, to do away all restrictions; to do so, would be to turn the
population into an armed multitude, going about killing game, and
destroying the'property of others.
Mr. S. WORTLEY stas'coniineed it would be impossible to
make game a saleable article, and yet preserve the property of it
in the handl in which it now was.

Sir J. SEBRIGHT pet4ctly agreed with his Hon. Friend, the
Member for Yorkshire he thought game should be the property
of the man on whose land it wail found. • Whatever might be the
fate of this Bill, he was convinced it was a Bill by which the People
would be much bet fitted. • • •
Mr. G: BA NK ES could not consider this Bill as an experiment.
It was nova measure from which, if Once adopted, they coulJ again
retreat. It Would, go to throw open vested rights, at present in the
hands of a few, to give it to the multitude'. It Would give them a
vested right, 'a money right, and one which he did net believe the
House either'could or Would attempt to resume. He did not be
lieve it would at ail have the Ant of putting an end to poaching,
though it niiglit'give another Hameln the offence. Instead orporth-
ers, we should In-future call them thieves. He opposed the Bill:
Lord BINNING also opposed the Bill; although' he wale
roue of seeing an alteritton ut the present system.
Sir J. SHELLEY opposed fee Bill. ' •
After some further couvtisation, the Committee divided-Foi

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r the Amer &tient tlt-For the Clause Se—Majority 65.—The Oause
was then adopted.
After Fome further conversation, the. Cosateisam *reported pro-
gress, and obtained leave to sit again to-morrow.
The other Orders were then disposed ocand the House adjourned
at a Quarter before One &Clock.

COMMON COUNCIL.

A Court of Common Council was held ye,terday at
Guildhall, when the Remembrancer presented,the Court
with copies of Bills before Parliament, fbr building an
iron bridge across the Thames at St. Catherine's ; for
building another bridge at II imtnerstnith ; for forming
a tunnel under the Thames at Rotherhithe; and for
cutting a canal in the neighbourhood of Chelsea ; and
stated that application had been made fo-r le tve to briii7.
in Bills for building two new sets of docks—viz. the
South London Doclzs, and St. Catherine's Docks.
These communications were orderedao-be referred to',
the Parliamentary Committee", with instructions to
watch the progress of these measures in Parliament,
and to ieport the proceedings upon them from time to
time to this Court. '

THE SPANISH VOTE.
Mr. FAV ELL brought. up the. Report of the Com-
mittee, to which the distribution of the sum of 1,0001.
voted in aid of the Spaniards in. June last, had been
intrusted. It stated that the committee had paid. the
money into the bands of J. Smith, Esq. one of the
Treasuters to the Committee of Noblemen and Gentle-
men Lich met at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, under
the impression that it would be most advantageously
distributed by those Gentlemen who had taken such a
warm interest in the afrairs of the Spaniards, with whom
they had opened cornmut;ications for the purpose of as-
•certaining how they could best apply the funds.
Mr. FAVELL, as soon as the Report was read, rose to
move, that the Coin., should agree with it.
Mr. DIXON rose to order. As the.mover (Mr. James)
of the resolution which called for toe report was not
present, it would mat be regular to press for its Adop-
tion in his oh:dice.

Mr. l'Aver.r. said, that if Mr. Dixon would pledge
hiinsell that Mr. James would be present in the course
of the day, he would postpone his motion until he came.
Mr. LEDGER said, that if Mr. James had had notice
of-this motion, he was certain he would have been here.
Thi LORD MAYOR said, every member must be taken
to be_acquaiuted with the business before the Court. -
Mr. Drxosi said his memory might be very treache-
rous,.but lie never knew of a motion being made upon
any queition in the absence of the member who had
Originated it.

A Member observed, that it was not stated in the gaper.
Mr. DIXON thought, titat even though it had been
mentioned in the paper, still it ought to be postponed
in colt' tesy to the Gentleman who was absent.
The LORD MAYOR said, that the whole of this discus-
sion was irregular. Ile never knew, long as he had been
in that Court, of a report being deferred in deference to
the absence of anybodf. - •
Mt. DIXON said.it. had always been done; and that
there was a standing order that requited it.
The LORD MAYOR did not know 'whether the worthy
Meniber came here to insult him, as it would seem he
did, from his manner upon the present and tc late occa-
-slon. He had said there.wis a standing order'to that
effect, and yet he had not shewit.it. There was no such
Standing older.
Mr. DixoN rose with a book cobtainingthe
.standing
orders of the Court, open in his hand, and said, My
Lord Mayor,
The LORD 'MAYOR (in a loud voice.)—Order, Sir! order. ,
Mr. DixoN was about DI FOCI:cll.
The Loan MAYOR: On a veto still louder).—Sit down, Sit' !
Mr. DIXON (bitting down).—.-1 will sit (hewn, Sir. . You are very
polite, My Lord Mayor.
The LORD MAYOR.—That is more than I can say of you{ Sir.'
Mr. Fatvs:t.s, then proceeded.to justify the vote for the
10001. and concluded by rooting, that the Report of the
CoMmittee should be entered on theJeturhals of the Court;
which was put and carried without-further opposition.
It was then moved and agreed to; that the -an-
nual appointment of the Committees of this Corporation
do hereafter take place at the first court after St.
Thomas's Day.
Mi. Dams commenced making some observations
upon the subject, which we did not hear distinctly. lie
was called to order.
The LORD MAYOR.--It is very painful for me.to be
obliged to internuFt the same individual. so often,. be-
cause it may appear that I am acting I,ers9nakly
.to-
wards him, which I should be sorry to do towards any
man ; but the worthy Member is quite irregular.
Mr. DIXON.-1 had made no observ.itionsi my Lord
Mayor. I had not made any observations.. •
All the other business in the paper was then disposed
of ; and the Court adjourned. •

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The society of the Friends of ]Foreigners in Disttess
held their anniversary dinner yesterday, at the City of
London Tavern, Bishopsgate•strect. A highly re-
spectable company ay.embled on the occasion; and the
evening was spent in the best spirit of sociality. The
benevolent objects of the Society were effectually bornp
in mind by the company.
•The anniversary dinner of the London General Pen-
sion, Association took place yesterday, at Albion House.
The object of this Society is to allow pet manent relief
to decayed artisans and mechanics, and their widows.
The festival was attended by a most respectable company.
Monies to be paid within the year on Foreign Loans,
contracted otabout to be contracted for
French .- 110,000,000 Mexican
Dutch - - 2,000,000 Ditto, new
Colombia 4,000,000 Spanish
BrAxil - - 2,500,000 Mines - ,
Portuguese 1 500,000 I Neapolitan
Austrian 500,000 1 Greek

A 42,500,000
5,000,000
5,000,000
500,000
2,900,000
5004.40

Peruvian -
Buenos` Ayres -

2,000,000
1,000,000

Of which £13,000,000 are
contracted, viz.
Greek - £392,000
Mexican - 1,21.6,4:90
Peruvian.
Portuguese - 705,000

I. Sterling Money X 38,000,000
:o be paid on Loans already

French

- 1'9,935,542
Futuo payments 212,96.8,542

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A Gentleman in Lond.cin.itas receigeoti a letter from a
friend at Naples, dated May ti, from which the following
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an extrartl-- I mu:t turn your attention to the ',flowing—Cap.
tau Krenshaar, of the 4th.fte,ginient of the flae; in the services/
his linpstilil Majesty the Foilit;ror of Ausl.siao ascd 44 years has
been bald e,ver since the ai;te of ts. lle.wat recuano.cnded to Sly
114)Waltilii hIACAS;AR.OII.. by a t ;entft man %%a) hail already tapes
rieoCed its good effects. I h some of nit of. the'llat re-
ceived taunt England, and perstvcryd iu applyirg it. In less than
two months his hair new on the•hald parts, and is now very thick: -
The eapt4tin is highly pleam.il, and hasspread its fames Otiglise,.
ybu the deniand for that artittc it very, great. I must big OL ypu
to send esupply without 10S3 of tinte."--,•The 'above eittettt
another ciarrotiossithio additional to ishundrtid others,' of the Ida-'
lible properties which 4uwlatitr.s Macassar <XI possesses in regene-
rating the flair. The particulars of this astonishing, fact may ise,.
ltiily known by application to the Proptietors, 20, Hatton-garden:

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