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London, England, 1830-05-27 00:00:00

GREECE.

Lord DURHAM said he rose fur the purpose of asking the no.
We Earl, the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, when the whole
of the papas connected with the negociations which had been carried
on respecting the affairs of Greece would be laid on their lordships'
table. He put the question, because it was necessary that their
lordships and the country ought to be set right respecting the whole
of these proceedings. It could not be denied that a most unfavora-
ble prejudice had gone abroad on the subject. It would be recol-
lected, that two days previous to the declaration of his Ma-
jesty's ministers that nothing existed which could lead to the
expectation that Prince Leopold would not agree to accept the So-
vereignty of Greece, excepting the matters of a pecuniary nature, he
(Lord Durham) was informed that Prince Leopold had received a
most important dispatch from Greece, in which Capo d'lstria and
the Senate had declared that no arrangements on the part of the
Plenipotentiaries would be consented to by the Greek people • and
further, that the noble earl (Aberdeen) was in possession Of the
knowledgeof Prince Leopold 's relinquishment, two days before
he laid the papers on the table of the house. Strange mistakes
also bad gone abroad relative to the true meaning of pecuniary
' considerations. It was but fair, in justice to the character of the
illustrious individual who was the subject of these remarks, as well
as to the country, but all mystery should be cleared away; at the
same time he called upon the house and the country to suspend any
judgment on the papers that had been presented, until the whole
were laid on the:table.
The Earl of ABERDEEN said he was anxious to assure the
house, that his Majesty's ministers had nothing to conceal in these
negotiations; he owed to put the noble lord (Durham) right in
one assertion ; be (Lord Aberdeen) did not on a former occasion say
that up to Friday night no apprehension of change existed ; what
he did say was, that at twelve o'clock on Friday night he had re-
ceived a letter from Prince Leopold, conveying his relinquish-
ment ; as far as he (Lord Aberdeen) was personally concerned,
he had no objection to lay even that letter before the house ;
but in abort he was not master of that letter when he laid
the papers on their lordships' table (hear, hear ;) and had
he been at the time able to do so, he thought he could not, because it
was calculated to make a very erroneous impression on the minds of
noble lords.—(hear.) From the commencement to the dose of the
whole of this business he was satisfied with the line of conduct he
had pursued ; and he was satisfied also, that were any twelve mem-
bers of that house to take the matter into serious deliberation, they
could not come to any other conclusion. But in answer to the ques-
tion put by the noble lord, when he rose, he (the Earl of Aberdeen)
begged to inform the noble lord, that the papers he required should
be laid on the table of the house on the day after to-morrow—
(Friday.)
Earl MALNI ESBURY was of opinion that all the papers ought
to hate been presented together. He should be the last to judge on
the papers which had already been laid on the table.
Hari GREY was opinion that false statements had gone abroad to
the world, which the noble earl ought to contradict : ex-parte state-
ments had also been made, much to theprejudice of Prince Leopold,
which it was necessary should be set right. The noble earl con-
tended, that the whole of the papers ought to have been presented,
espa dally certain correspondence which had passed between Capo
d' stria and PrinceLeopold,relative to the relinquishment of the latter.
The Earl of ABERDEEN said he could not produce the letters
alluded; to by the noble earl until he bad the authority of Prince
Leopold for so doing ; they were of a strictly confidential nature ;
with respect to the menunial of the senate of Greece, he could not
have presented It, as Prince Leopold had not sent it to him (Lord
Aberdeen) until after his resignation ; he (Lord Aberdeen) felt
anxious to make up the papers to as late a period as possible, and he
conceived he lied acted right in laying on the table of the house all
the papers in his possession at the time.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH defended the course pursued by his
majesty's ministers; nothing in their conduct led to the course
adopted by Prince Leopold.
Earl GREY rose for the purpose of moving an adjournment—
, and he did so that the racist disscussion might be stopped. When
all the papers that had been promised were presented the house
would be then prepared to go into full consideration of all the bear-
ings of the question. It was entirely the fault of noble lords oppo-
site that these discussions had arisen.

The Duke of WELLINGTON defended the line pursued by
his Majesty's ministers. The present discussion arose out of a prac-
tice that had not been very uncommon during the present session,
namely, of noble lords asking questions, and making speeches,
when there was no motion before the house. The noble earl (Aber-
deen) had promised these papers to the house on Monday last, and
though not prepared with the whole, he had come down to the
house with those of them that were ready, that he might keep his
promise.
Lord HOLLAND thought it most extraordinary that the noble
Duke should complain of the noble lords putting questions in that
house. He begged to enure the noble Duke, that such had always
been the practice ; and if there was a period in the history of the
country where the house was disposed to show more forbearance on
that head, it was the present. For himself, with respect to the
question of debate, he should forbear to give any opinion on the
subject until he had perused the whole of the papers; at the same
time, he should tell noble lords on the other side of the house, that
if they expected to go on without having such questions put to them,
they were very much mistaken.
After a few words from Lord ELLENBOROUGH, the conver.
lotion dropped.

SUITS IN ZQUITY SILL.
The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the order of the day for
the third mains et the two bill.
Lord ELDON the bill. From the low tone of voice in
which the noble iced spoke be was almost inaudible. He contended

that an additional judge in the Court of Chancery, as provided by th
bill, was altogether unnecessary; he would appeal to the exieri..
ence of the house, if the appointment of the Vice-Chancellor had
not cause the greater delay in Chancery business than previously to
his honour's appointment was the case ? It was a well-known pre,.
lice for counsel to leave one Court, and go into another to attent
to cases in which they were interested, and that often occasioned
causes to be put off', and occasioned additional delay. He beeps!
to repeat his reason for opposing the third reading of the bill; It,
did not see any necessity for an additional Judge in Chancery, sea
tour puisne Judges in the Court of Exchequer. He should meet
as an ainenement, that the further consideration of the bill be post.
ported till that day fortnight.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he regretted the step
which the noble and learned lord had thought it his duty to take •
the noble and learned lord kept up his objections to the proposed
bill, which circumstance rendered it imperative on hint (the Lord
Chancellor) to trouble the house with a recapitulation of his tea.
sons for bringing forward the proposed measure. No one had a
higher opinion of the great talents and experience of the
noble and lens td lord (Earl Eldon) than he entertained; still,
0:1 the present occasion, he should not abide by the noble and
learned lord's opinions, which he could clearly show to their
lordships, from the history of the country, were perfectly unfounded.
He (the Lord Chancellor) lad made strict inquiry, and found
that the arrears of public business had increased instead of beit%,
diminished; what course, then, was left for hint to pursue? 11
could not help stating to theit lordships a circumstance trrh.C.
lately came to his knowledge, in proof, if any were wanting, of
the great delay in Chancery proceedings. Many years ago
claimant for a legacy came to this country ; the executors under
the will for their protection applied to Chancery; the applicant
spent seven years' delay at school, and afterwards went to Atneric,
and got married, and his child now writs to him (the Lord Chancel-
lor) inquiring it there is any likelihood of a speedy termination li-
the case. Noble lords must be satisfied that there is ample
for adopting some measure to put a stop to such delays. He had
applied to the Chief Justice of the Court of King's Bench. Nor,.
lief or assistance was to be found there, for the learned lord at th,
head of that Court assured hint that the Court was overwhelm.;
with business. Of the Cour: of Common Pleas no more could is
expected. The only way then, was to resort to the Court of Each:.
qucr, if the noble and leaned lord (Eldon) admits the necessity
of giving additional assistance in the Equity Conti. 'lke new,
and leaned then recapitulated the statements he used
on bringing forward tic motion, and concluded by moving that th.•
bill be rend a third time.
Lord ELI)ON said a few words in explanation.
The LORI) CHANCELLOR observed, that the opinion of th..
Vice Chancellur was favourable to the measure.

The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the 1111 l tiou -- ll
Against it 4
1111.jority for the third reading —......—... —7
Atijaurtied at a Quarter to Eight o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS —WEDNEsnAv.

The house rant into a committee on Shakerley's Divorce 13.11.
Mr. Adam and witnesses were heard in support of the Bill.—Reporr
ordered to br taken ibto further consideration.

Lord W. POWLF:TT presented a petition from leadminers of
Durham for an increased duty on foreign lcad.—Ordered to tic ou
the table.

Mr. MOOR); presented a petition from Sir H. Lees, of BEd,
rock, praying the house to adopt measures for the protection et
Ireland.—Ordered to be printed.
31r. CALVERT presented a petition from St. Saviour's, in the
borough of Southwark, against the Scottish and Irish poor removal
bilL-I.)rdcred to be printed.
A petition was presented by CoL GRANT, from Elgin, against
an increased duty on corn spirits.
3lr. DEN ISON presented a petition against the Scottish and
Irish poor removal bill, from the parish of St. Mary, Newington._
Ordered to be printed.
Col. BA ItN.l it 1) presented a petition from the King's Counts.
against compulsorT assessments for the poor of Ireland.
Sir W. GUISE prevented a petition from an individual at Glou-
cestet, against a clause in the Friendly Society Acts.
Col. BRUEN presented a petition from Carlo, against alters•
tions in the stamp duties.
Mr. BYNG presented a petition against the Irish and Scottish
poor removal bill, from St Leonard's, Shoreditch.
Mr. E. DAVENPORT presented a petition from Sandbank,
Chester. against the Welch judicature bill t he afterwards observe:.
on the impropriety of having a bill on so important a subject fixed
Ifor to-morrow, when, as the Dezby Stakes" were then to be de.
cided, there was so little chance of a full attendance.
Mr. C. W. WYNN pretested a petition from Dumbanon, against
the Clyde navigation bill.—Ordered to be taken into consideration
on Friday next.
. Mr. BROWNLOW moved for accounts of the duty on glass in
Ireland, for the last ten years—Ordered.
Sir M. I. STEWART moved for various returns respecting con-
victions for forgeries in Scotland since 1791.—Ordered.
Mr. KENNEDY moved for an account of the causes decided
within the last year in the Sheriff's Court, Scotland.
Mr. R. GORDON asked whether the learned lord intended re
proceed with his bills this Session.
The LORD ADVOCATE replied, most assuredly; they wouid
be proceeded with to-morrow or next day, if there were the oppor-
tunity.—Account ordered.
Mr. LA WLE V moved for an account of superannuation', and the
expenses of the establishment, connected with the manufacture, for
Government, at Edmonton, of small arms.—Ordered.

COACH PARCELS.
Sir T. ACLAND brought forward his leave for a bill fur the re.
lief of stage and mail-coach proprietota. He said those proprietors
had suffered serious grievances, in consequence of being rendered
liable for parcels of considerable value, although they had not been
pointed out as valuable, because the difficulty was to prove that the
parties bringing the parcels had teen the customary notices stuck up
in the offices. The proprietors are willing to take parcels to the
amount of 201. but what the proprietors sought was, that they
might be released from being an..werable for parcels of value where
the value of the parcels had not been described. He concluded with
moving tnr leave to bring in a bill to relieve mail-coach contractors
and stage-coach proprietors from liability for parcels, the value or
which had been concealed.

Sir C. FREEMANTLE and Mr. N. CALVERT baying mad::
some remarks, the motion was agreed to.
Mr. G. DAWSON mond that the Four per Cents. Dissents Biel
be read a third time.

Mr. E. DAVENPORT moved as an amendment, that the house
at its rising do adjourn to Friday.
The amendment was however eventually withdrawn, and tl:e
was read a third time and passed.
The report of the committee on the Beer and Bigg Acts, (Ire.
land.) was presented and agreed to.