Star.
London, England, 1831-08-03 00:00:00

REFORM BILL.

Lord ALTHORP moved that the House resolve into a
Committee on the English Reform En
Mr. C. PELHAM observed, that as the proceedings
were PO sati.ractorily conducted oo Saturday, he should like
to see the proposition revived that they might meet at two
o'clock in the day, to discuss the Reform 13111.—(Hear,
hear.) He thought it would be the means of getting rid
of much irrolcvant matter and discussion.—(Hear.)
No answcr.

Mr. S. WORTLEY complained of the deficiency of
several of the returns that had been made respecting the
population, houses, assessed taxes, &c. of particular
boroughs.
The house then resolved itsclf into the Committee; Mr.
BERNAL in the Chair.

Lord ALTHORP said the first thing they had to do WAS
to proceed with the cases reserved on Saturday, Sudbury and
Totness. As to Sudbury, it had been contended that a
neighbouring parish (Ballingtion) ought to be included in
the population, on the ground of what had been done in the
ease of Truro. As to Truro there had been an Act of Par.
'lament defining its limits ; the same had been the cue with
Sudbury, which Act did not include Balliugdon as forming
a part of Sudbury. He, therefore, considered that there was
no ground for removing Sudbury from schedule B.
It was then moved that Sudbury do stand part of sche-
dule B.

Mr. AVRANGHAM admitted that there was very great
difference between the towns of Truro and Sudbury, but
that difference was in favour of Sudbury. The parochial
lines were maintained, and they included the population of
above 4000. The part was beyond the boundaries of the
borough, but it formed an integral part of the town. The
noble lord had suggested the adjournment of the cue on Sa-
turday, seeming to admit the justice of the case • he could
not think what had happened to induce the noble lord's un-
accountable present resistance. Was it true that a majority
of the house had intimated to the ministers that they would
carry the bill— that they would resist the exemption of Sud-
bury—that they would exercise the law of the strongest ?
If that were so, it was useless to resist ; the justice of a cue
would go for nothing.
Lord A LTHORP knew nothing of the intimation to
which allusion had been made ; no such intimation had
reached him. (Hear, hear.) The case on Saturday was
stated securately, as far as it went—but all was not stated.
The Act of Parliament fixed the limits of Sudbury u well
as of Trum, and that had decided the decision of govern-
ment- (Hear.)
Mr. FERGUSON was astonished at this resistance.
There was not a borough in schedule B that, in having one
member, would rot have infinitely beyond its proportion.
Lanarkshire had 250,000 inhabitants, and yet it was to have
one member only.
Lord MII.TUN said Ballingdon did net form part of
the pariah of All Saints, and therefore was not part of
Sudbury. In opposing the proposition, the Government
adhered to their line : but he should vote for Sudbury,
on the ground of their being contiguity of population.—
(Hear.) The Government, however, could not vote other-
wise than for the retention of Sudbury in schedule B,
because it came strictly within their rule. (Hear, hear,
and a Lush.)
Mr. CHOKER maintailied that Sudbury ought nct to
be retained in schedule B, if the justice of its case could
have any weight. He considered that the ease was as
strong as that of Truro, and that Swlhury wu as well
entitled to have two members as was Truro.

Sir J. WALSH spoke to the like effect, especially as the
ministers had rLpeatedly departed from the rule regarding
2,000 and 4.01:0. That departure rendered it necessary to
watch the conduct towards these boroughs. He and others
were not actuated by factious motives; they only sought to
see justice done by the application of principles which the
Alinisters themsels.es had adopted in particular cases. There
had only been a chapel, and that belonged to All Saints,
which made liailingtion part of the parish. But an Act
had been referred to. A more arbitrary measure, except the
Reform Bill, otter had appeared; it arbitrarily pretended
to fix toe limits of a parish.
Mr. TYIiRELL was understood to say, under all the
circumstances he should vote against Sudbury being re-
tained in se:tedule B.

Mr. BA RING said. that if there were were one borough
less entitled tl-an another to be in schedule 13, on the ground
of it not being a nomination or rotten borough, it was Sud.
bury. Corrupt it might be—perhaps it was—and so perhaps
would continue ; but be expected it was quite as pure as
would t'e any of the 101. boroughs. If it were sacrificed,
it would be cn account of a quibble. (Hear, hear.) Was
it because it was the Reform Bill that every species of in-
consistency and injustice shouk be countenanced by that
Hot.se.

Len! A LTHOEP said the parish cf Ballingdon did not
belong to Sudbury ; that in their bill of 182.5. they did not
pretend that it was withir. the limits of Sudbury.
Sir It. PEEL said, he net never hrard of this act l:efore;
but it consisted of I.2oclaures ; and provided, amongst other
matters, that the new houses should be " perpendicular."—
(A laugh.) It was not r.atr.ed in the act, because the hamlet
was in gibe X, while the borough was in Stitfrilk ; but there
was not a continuous population. To admit Sudbery would
not affect other decisions.

Lord J. RUSSELL said, that the act of 1825, which re.
garded paving, lighting, Ere. of Sudbury, did net include the
hamlet, not consincring that they bad any thing to do with
It. (Htar, hoar.)
?.Ir. W RA NIG HA M replied, that if this case were retained
In schedule B it would be an act of flagrant injustice.
Mr. C. PELHAM thought a case was made out for ex-
empting Sudbury from schedule 13.
The gallery was then cleared for a division.
The numbers were—
For the motion
Against it ..

~ In
.. 108

Majority against leaving it out of the bchedule 4;
The motion was then put from the Chair, that the borough
of Totness remain part of schedule B.
Mr. BALDWIN moved as an amendment, that it be
transferred to schedule C.

Mr. COURTENAY supported the amendment on the
ground that the borough was not a nomination borough, Doe
one that had ever been implicated with bribery or corrup.
tion. He said the proposed alteration in the law would be
likely to intr duce bribery and corrupt practices, on account I

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of its extending the franchise to the poorer ekes of eon.
atituents.
[During the time that the hon. member was speaking the
risibility of the house was excited to a great degree, by a
large comb dropping from the ventilator, and In its fall It
Tang a peel on the chandelier, and alighted on the table.
Some lady, who had obtained re:mission to be upon the roof,
I had dropped it from her head.
Lord .1. RUSSELL wont into a abort reply and enplane.
tire, and said, that as the Committee had decided on the
principle in the cue of Sudbury, and as he considered the
two CMS similar, he could not consent to have Totnesa
taken out of Schedule B.
The original question was then pet from the Chair. and
carried withou a division.
The question was then put, that Schedule B stand part
of the clause in the Bill.
Mr. CROICER rose and made a few observations of dis-
sent, but said that he had no intention to eielate the coin-
promise that no unnecessary delay should be occasioned N
the progress of the Bill through the House.

. Sir E. Ii'RTHERELL followed, °tithe aide of the Op.
position, and repeated his general objections to the measure.
He said that every principle, as Ora laid down, had been
violated. He said that candour on the one side, bad only
been met by antagonist power on the other, by Jaeoblnically
insulting public feeling.
Col. WOOD would protest against the clause. He could
not consent to have so many boroughs robbed of their repro.
sentatives, for the purpose of giving a few additional mem-
bers to Scotland and Ireland. He had an opportunity of
knowing that the intelligent portion of the community, who,
although they admitted that some reform was necessary, de-
nounced the bill as being too sweeping a measure. And he
considered that the sweeping character of the bill was con-
fined to schedules A & B, and that clause which was to de-
pri►e the sons of freemen of their franchise, and on that ac.
count would oppose the motion. He anticipated bad con.
sequences from the bill, and his Majesty's Ministers would
be solely responsible for all that might happen.
Lord I LTON said a few words in explanation.
Alderman ATKINS (re believe) also opposed the
motion.
Isle. KEITH DOUGLAS followed on the same side.
Mr. S. AVORTLEY stated his objections to the hill
ge-
nerally, and upbraided Ministers with making capricious
distinctions and exemptions ; and called upon the noble lord
(J. Russell) for an explanation in the cases of several
boroughs which had been preserved, while others bad been
lopped off.
Lord J. RUSSELL recapitulated his former arguments,
and defended the course that had been adopted by govern.
ment.

Sir EDWARD SUGDEN was not satisfied with the
reasons assigned. He said, that neither population, nor
boundaries, nor any defined line, had been observed. At
the conclusion of his speech, he complained cf the at- I
tempts made 'by the public press to deceive the people.
He said, that on one occasion a speech of his had Leen
reported with marks of clamour and bursts of laughter at
the conclusion of every sentence. Now whoever wrote that
report must have known that it was not true, for he (Sir
E. Sudden) perfectly remembered that there was only one
laugh occurred during all the time he spoke.
• Lord A LTHORP defended the course pursued In the
progreu of the bill. He alluded to the difficulty of coming
to a positive line, but contended that in a general way
population was the best criterion, that he had found on the
gross average, that the greatest population were the most
prosperous. He had from close examination found that the
average rate of taxation paid by the boroughs in schedule
A. did not exceed 2011. per annum ; those of schedule 13.
7031; and those of schedule. C. 1,2091; and he thought that
that we- a sufficient answer to any objections that had been
made in tl:e selection of the boroughs.
COULBURN apprehended that the standard of die-
franchisement had been adopted by Ministers too hastily. The
noble lord said the average of assessed taxation in the bo-
roughs of schedule A, was 2001 ; of schedule B, 7001; and
of the thirty lowest undisfranchiscd boroughs, 1,2001. This
average the noble lord would lay down as a proof of the pro.
priety of the standard. But an average was not a fair test.
(Hear.) He might include places of 10,000 inhabitants,and
still have a similar average. It decided nothing as to par-
ticular cases. The disfranchisement, would excite discon-
tent. In Guildford he had himself been lately a witness of
the existing dissatisfaction.
Mr. S. 'WORTLEY considered the average of taxation
an unfair test.

Mr. A. BARING said the measure, as it at present,
stood, gave the manufacturing counties a decided prepon-
derance. The agriculturists, inadkquately represented, would
be deprived of the benefit of existing restrictions. Their
activity, their clubs, the condemr.ation of their constituency,
and all the other advantages of the town representatives,
would make them far outmatch the country gentlemen re-
turned, even if in point of numbers they did not surpass
them. He would propose that they did sway at present
with the nomination boroughs (for the abolition of which the
country was impatient) and allowed proper time and consi-
deration to the other great questions, the repartition of the
representatives, the fixing of the constituency, the division
of counties, &c. He would ask Government whether there
would be any provision for securing scats to the ministers
and officers of the crown ? In France the ministers of Fi-
nance and of the 3larine had lost their elections. Mr. Can-
ning gave up representing Liverpool, finding his obligations
towards a large constituency incompatible with his official
duties.

Mr. STANLEY said, it was not the intention of Govern-
ment to introduce any such provision as the hon. member
I had alluded to. But such a subject should have been mooted
when they were extinguishing the rotten boroughs of sche-
dule A. He should not, therefore, enter on it. He denied
that the country gentlemen were deficient in activity. By
the bye, the hon. member had paid his favourites a bad com-
pliment. The increase of the county members, and the dis-
connecting of the great towns from their election, was in fa.
your of the agriculturists. Dividing England into two por-
tions, us a right hon. baronet had adopted on a former night,
he found, under the peewit system, there was 1 representative
for every 35,000 inhabitants in the northern or manufactur-
ing districts, and one for every 15,000 in the southern or 1
agricultural districts. The members had been distributed at 1
a time when the great mass of population and wealth was to
be found in the south. Now, there would be in the north
one representative to every 25,000 inhabitants, and In the
south, towards which ministers w:re accused of being so
unjust, one to every 20,0410. (Hear.)
31r. BARING expiained.
Mr. CROKER.—Th,, noble lord (Russell) had said, that
the line of demarcation was satisfactory on the whole. (A
laugh.) And to whom ? Not to them (the Opposition) ;
nor even to the noble lord, for schedule B which now con.
tained 40 names, instead of its original nun;ber, had suffered
since its introduction no less than 20 alterations. (Loud
cries of Hear, limn the Opposition.) Another noble lord
had attempted to prole its satisfactoriness by a financial ar-
gurneut ala e.r-ojitio. The average of assessed taxation in
schedule A was, he said, 2001; in schedule B, 7001; in
the thirty steeliest boroughs retaining their full represen.
Cation, 1,2001. But the question was not one of averages,
but of individual cases. (Hear.) Besides, in the favoured
places, the painhes had been thrown into the boroughs,
by which the population and taxation had been unduly
swelled, and vice versa with respect to the un- '
favoured places. He (t r. Croker) would not take averages,
but a few individual cases. The Borough of 3lorpeth,
which retained its two Members, paid but 8281. in assessed'
taxes; Northallerton but 9001. Caine but 6501. Maldon but
9501. Horsham but 7941. The name of Caine recalled to
him a rather important circumstance. When he (Mr.
Croker) called for a population return of the borough, he
was told it could not be distinguished from that of the
parish; jet the return made in March, by order of the'
noble lord, stated the male population of the borough scpa-
rawly. To resume his argument, the five boroughs he had
named retained their full representation. Now in Schedule B,
Huntingdon only paid 1,7501. in assessed taxes--(hear);
Dorchester, 2,lool.—(hear);—Guildford, I,9Bol.—(hear);
Chippenhatn, 2,2301. (loud cries of Hear.) Sudbury, 1,1311.
In the other instances, the adjoining parishes could be
thrown in. Northallerton had a parish extending sixteen
miles; and with that paribh, it paid 1,1271. in assessed
taxes, or a few pounds less than what was paid by Sud.
bury, within a square mile. (Hear.) He should not longer
delay the committee, but could not forbear expressing what
he felt on the inconsistencies in the treatment of different
boroughs. (Hear, hear.)
Lord ALTHORP said they bad taken population as
the general rule, and they could not set on population in
some cases, and on taxation in others. (Hear.)
Mr. CROKER said he had never made any allusion
to taxation till it had been urged as an argument by the
noble lord.

Mr. WYNN said, reform used to be called for because
boroughs had gone to decay ; but the present plan was ap-
plied to disfranchise boroughs that increased in size ratr:
Parishes,
London if they had spread themselves into adjoining
London proper was now less than it was a century ago; a

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great peedso et the space that was then occupied by habits-
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dims his am occupied with counting.bouses. He thought
It
sultanot bill were to pass, the plan on which it was
r Nal sot bast, but must go farther. (Hear, hear.)
ada. that was venerable was destroyed, and the new
le was art carried to its full extent. The day after
should pus there would be no principle on which
name of the boroughs retained could be defended, or the claim
of Owes left widsout representatives resisted. (Hear.)
The question was agreed to without a division.
The CHAIRMAN read the next clause, that each of the
places named in the first columns of schedule C. be boroughs,
and that each of them return two members to Parliament.

The general clause was agreed to, on the understandingl
that each place should be the subject of discussion.
The CHAIRMAN put the question on the first place
named in the schedule, which was Manchester.
Mr. S. WORTLEY said, he meant to propose an *Hern-
don, the reason of which he would state. The town of
Manchester was divided into two parts by a river—on one'
side stood what wax called Manchester, on the other Sal-
ford, which was originally a suburb of Manchester, he could
not see on what ground they were separated in the bill.
Manchester, by the population returns of 1821, had 129,035
inhabitants ; Salford 32,000, and the number of voters under
the bill would be 13,800, which was a number, though
large, that formed no objection to their being united. The
Hon. Gentleman moved that the words be—Manchester and
Salford.

31;:i1UNT said, Manchester and Salford were totally
distinct, and bad separate jurisdictions. He hoped Ministers
would not listen to the proposal for their union. He should
snpport the enfranchising clauses of the bill, and be hoped
they would not be opposed as the disfranchising clauses had
been.

Mr. HAYWARD was glad the great act of justice to
Manchester, so long delayed, was at length about to be per.
funned. Manchester now contained 200,000 inhabitants,
distinguished for their industry, intelligence and attainments
in science, and In opulence and importance was the second
town in the British dominions. (Hear, hear.) Manchester
I now contains more inhabitants than the whole county of
Lancaster In the memory of persona now living. It would be
unjust not to give Manchester representatives for itself, and
Salford, which now contains 43,000 Inhabitants, was
also entitled to be represented. He could not sufficiently de-
scribe the feeling that pervaded the whole county on the
great measure of Reform. He was an obscure sndividusl,
but little known to many of the electors of the county ; he
was called on to become a candidate because he was known
to be the friend of Reform. He commenced his canvass. and
his whole progress was one of triumph. In every town the
whole population came forth—not to meet the humble indi-
vidual before them—but the supporter of the great measure
of Reform. (Hear, hear.) He hoped the house would think
it right to give an adequate representation to the populous
manufacturing towns in the county of Lancaster. (Hear.)
Mr. FERGUSON said it would be a waste of words
to argue against the amendment of the honourable gentle.
man, which no one appeared disposed to support. Man.
chester contained more inhabitants than all the boroughs
in Schedule B, which the hon. gentleman who moved the
amendment thought should have two Members each._
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. S LANEY said, the manufacturing towns in the north
had increased in population from 50 to 100 per cent. in the
last twenty years, while the whole country had increased no
more than 26 per cent.
Mr. EWART thought Manchester was well entitled to
two representatives from its great manufacturing im-
portance.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, if Manchester and Salford',
were united in their representation, it would be the cause of I
jealousy, to prevent which it was thought better to give Sal-
ford and adjoining places, whose population amounted to
60,000, one representative.
Mr. C. PELHAM said the supporters of the bill argued
as if manufactures were the only road to wealth, and that
agriculture was the road to ruin. (A laugh.) He would have
them look to Sussex, which, though an agricultural county,
had increased in population as much as any in the kingdom.
Sir R. PEEL said his hon. friend was fully warranted in
making the proposal he had done, as Manchester and Salford
were united in the bill of last year. He was afraid by
giving Salford but one member, they were taking an impro-
per course.
The amendment was withdrawn on the question being
put that Manchester stand part of the clause.
Sir R. PEEL said he was placed in great difficulty. He
objected to the enfranchising clauses of the bill, as giving
the spoils of places they had deprived of their just rights.
Looking, however, at the extreme difficulty of the case, and
the impossibility of forming a government that could not
yield some reform, though he was, when a member of the
Government, afraid of letting loose the great measure of
reform, he should now forget the past, both as regarded
schedule A and schedule B ; but he would not consent to

any enfranchisement that could make disfranchisement ne-
cessary—that would make the numbers of the House so in.
conveniently large as to make it necessary to disfranchise.
He thought it impossible to deny that from the prevailing
feeling some enfranchisement was now necessary. (Hear.)
And as be was prepared to concede some enfranchisement,
be should not make an ungracious opposition ; but in every
case he would vote for giving two members rather than one.
Manchester, Birmingham, and Leeds, the three first in ache.
dole C, he should make no objection to give members to.
The next, he thought, was open to objection. He could
not have supposed that it would be proposed to give
members to Greenwich and Deptford, which he conceived
must be one large government borough. (Hear, hear.) He
should also object to give members to the metropolitan
districts. If it was necessary to increase the influence of
the metropolitan county, two additional members might
be given to Middlesex. He did not think representation
necessary to the prosperity of a town. Manchester was a
proof that it was not—it had grown to its present greatness
without representation. It was the practice to enfranchise
large towns before the Revolution, and he should not object to
its revival in the case of Manchester, Birmingham, and
Leeds, but would state his opinions on the other towns when
they came under discussion, and should certainly oppose the
enfranchisement of Greenwich and the metropolitan districts,
which would give them undue weight ; to opposition to
which he should take the sense of the house. (Hear, hear.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, it was his decided opinion
that it would be as utterly impossible to carry on the govern-
ment of the country without disfranchising the boroughs in
schedule A, as to refuse members to the large towns ; the
' public opinion was equally declared on both branches of re.
form. He thought Greenwich, and the metropolitan dis.
tricts, were well entitled to send representatives to that
house. (Hear, hear.)
Sir R. PEEL said, the altered circumstances and feelings
of the country made some reform necessary, and this he was
confident must be the cause that his noble friend (Lord Pal.
merston), and his Right Hon. friend (Mr. C. Grant), who
had for fifteen years opposed reform, now supported it. For
himself he could desire no advantage from any change that
had taken place in his opinions, and had determined to sup.
port a moderate reform, but not injustice. (Hear.) He
would have no share in the perils of the bill. If the con-
sequence were loss of office for ever, he would infinitely pre-
fer that result to any participation in the bill.
Mr. HUNT observed, that more than ten years ago the
people of Manchester were cut down and murdered by the
armed yeomanry, for assembling to petition foe reform. That
period ought to be constantly referred to. (Oh, Oh !)
Those who cried " Oh" now, would have cried " OW' rather
more sincerely, bad they been at the Manchester massacre,
when 10 were killed, and 618 wounded. For 13 years Man-
chester bad called for representation ; but if the right bon.
bart.'s (Peel's) principles were acted upon, they would have
to put to death the people of blanchtster again. ((A voice in
the side gallery occasioned immense laughter by exclaiming
" again !") He rejoiced that the demands for Reform bad
been what they were ; they were now irreristible.
Sir. CONOLLY made some observations about the
yeomanry, and was understood to remind 11r. Hunt that he
once had belonged to a yeomanry corps.
Sir. HUNT was glad that the hon. member's memory
was a little better than it was • few evenings ago. It was
true that 30 years ago he belonged to a yeomanry corps ;
and it was also true that the corps to which he belonged did
run sway. (Loud laughter.)
Sir C. WETHERELL he had no objection to give
Members to Manchester—but that must not be at the ex-
pense, the spoliation, and the unconstitutional robbery of
some other place. The propriety of giving Members to
Manchester he was ready to argue. Wben it was proposed,
however, the nature of the constituency :must be settled.
Was the LOL qualification to be continued ? If it were, that
proceeded on the principle of universal suffrage; and he
should say was objectionable.
Lord ALTHORP replied, that when the proper time
arrived he should be prepared to argue the question ciquall-
Baltic°. As to the principle of these enfranchisement',
he could not expect the honourable and learned deman
to look at them as they did who had peoposed them.—
They had thought that the state of the country required
many enfranchisement.; but that making room for them

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by diafranehisaments—had they proceeded
—would not have accomplished all
Nomination boroughs were sought to I
in themselves. As, however, there
very positive denial that Manchester,
Leeds ought to have Members, he would
should go thus far with the Schedule to
agreed to them, leave the consideration
districts till to-morrow (this day.)—lic
Sir R. PEEL said, he had an objection
=trat with the noble lord. (Loud
on.) He, however, bad no objection
three places just named to pass now; and he
was the impression of those around him—and
don of the metropolitan districts till to-morrow,
Sir R. INGLIS objected to the clause
fore be could not agree to any compromise.
ie a vast deal of democratic influence,
a great evil. He apprehended it to be
It was then agreed that Manchester
schedule C ; also Birmingham and Leeds.
Lord J. RUSSELL then moved that ti)
progress, and ask leave to sit again.—/
Committee ordered to sit again to.day.
Mr. RICE brought in the hackney,
bill.—Read a first time, and ordered
time this day.
The remaining orders of the day having
the house adjourned at a quarter to one o'cl
emommetonemmummume
Our private letters from Paris
the public journals, are very unity
proceedings in the House of
Reform Bill appeared to be watched
with as much eagerness as if it would
rial influence over our foreign
French Ministers were sanguine t
would pass into a law, for if the
were again to return to office, the
good feeling now existing between
and Franco might be materially endangered,
cial accounts had been received
Don Miguel was willing to agree
offered by the French Governmer
in circulation at Paris on Sunda;
arrival of the treaty to this effect,
premature.
Letters from Memel of the 19th
news of importance. The cholera
Memel nor Konigsberg on the 22d.
there had been about 750 cases
which 560 had died, and the disease
through the neighbouring villages,
government, it appears, does not
destined for the Polish army.
From letters received yesterday
with accounts from Petersburgh
the progress which the cholera is
terrific. These letters state that
been fifteen thousand, and that t'
great numbers were flying from
Our readers will recollect, that
sorted in the Petersburgh Gareth
been, on the 28th of June, but four
deaths, we stated that we had reason
the report was not correct, and
bad been upwards of 30 deaths.
rivals proved that we were correct.
of opinion that it rages to an extent
what is officially known or reported,
At a numerous meeting of mead
ment, held yesterday afternoon .
Office, Lord Althorp Is reported
these remarkable expressions with
degree of success which is likely
Tory policy :—" He begged it -
that the enemies of reform were
mistaken, if they hoped to defeat
They might originate discussions 1
and throw obstacles in the way of
this they might all rest assured—
abandon the bill, Parliament
sitting until next December, or
twelvemonth, if necessary." " That''
Sir Francis Burdett concurred in
giving up individual views of amendment
of not impeding the general progress
but Lord Milton stated as an
" the bill ought to be made as
sible for the sake of rendering
the general sense of the meeting
expressed in favour of Lord Althorp'
we hope and trust will be perseveringly realized
If something of the kind be not done, the mea-
sure may not reach the House of Lords before
Christmas. There were 350 members prescra at
the meeting.
A report was yesterday current in the City, that
the Emperor of Russia had fallen a victim to tbs
Cholera. The report is alluded to in the commu-
nication of our City Correspondent, who states
that on enquiry it proved to be destitute of foun-
dation, it appearing that no late; informano:
bad been received from the Russian capital than
that of Monday, either by express or otherwise
We suspect that later information than that 01
Monday has been received. The report was trace,;
to a quarter possessed of the best information ei,
matters connected with theßaltic,and we have reason
to know that importance was attached to it by severa,
influential men in the city. It would be absurd in us to
aiiirm a matter of this kind on less than direct evidence
which we certainly have not ; but, from a variety
of circumstances derived from our own privati
sources of information, we should pause before ve
set down the report as utterly destitute of founds
tion. The state of suspense cannot, however, to
of long duration, for the truth must soon be kncwn•
It will be borne in mind, that the report of Con-
stantine's death preceded some days the authentu
information.

A message from His Majesty was last higl-.1
brought down to Parliament, recommending an
increased provision for the Duchess of Ken:
and her daughter; who had hitherto, it is under-
stood, been indebted for a part of the com-
forts required by their station to Prince Leopolti
The Prince having no longer any command c'
English money, this message will doubtless I
regarded as a thing of course, and mo
especially when it is recollected that an in•
come of 6,0001. per annum was many years ago
granted to the Duke of Cumberland, expressly tip
the education of his son, a Prince two steps foram
from the throne than is the Princess Victoria ; an
not of a branch of the Royal Family, as we hat.
heard, distinguished by any superior claims to pub-
lic esteem or consideration.— Times.

The Livery of London, which had been intended
for the purpose of stigmatizing the factious opposi-
tion to the bill, has been postponed, principally be-
cause of the progress which has been made with the
measure since the first suggestion of the expediem!
of such meetings. A resolution, however, ha:
been passed, which is to stand over in terrorem,
should the boroughmongers be caught at their
manoeuvres again. Measures like the above are
strictly but defensive, against that audacious system
of mock representation which it is the aim of the
Tories to perpetuate against the people of England.

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a-morrow.
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9th ult. contain nt
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LONDON.

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 3.

This afternoon the KING held a Levee at St.
.liines's Palace; after which there was a Privy
at which his MAJESTY presided, at-
.cljed by the LORD CHANCELLOR, the Marquis
LANsoowNE, Earl GREY, Viscounts MEL..
*);•lcNr., PALMERSTON, GODERICH, and At-
.filoitr, the Earl of CARLISLE. the Honourable
lI:LES GRANT, Lord HOLLAND, Lord DUR-
,! o!, the Duke of RICHMOND, and Mr. STAN-

',EY.

This day Mr. HIBDERT, Mr. CoLvILLE, Mr.
LIV ING , and two other Gentlemen, had an inter-
view pith Lord GoDEnxcii, at the Colonial Office,
3 deputation from the West India Merchants.
Ile:;idcs Lord GODERICH, there were present
E3TI GREY, Lord Viscount ALTHO !IP , and Lord
.11-cKLAN D.

Private letters from Paris, received by a Com-
.:alci%l establishment in the city, affirm that M.
I.‘rirTE has retired from the contest for the
Prettientship of the Chamber of Deputies. We
I.t.r, no other Continental intelligence this day
ve-thy of notice.

The HOUSE of LORDS yesterday presented a
I),lstitng and splendid appearance, owing to her
NIAJLSTY'S attendance to receive and thank
Parliament for the settlement of her dower.—
She preceded the KING, in state, and his MA-
.lrsrY followed in a quarter of an hour. She
t ntered separately, took her seat on the right of
the KING'S chair, and his MAJESTY entered
.t,out twenty-five minutes after. The SPEAKER
-.nd the CONXIONS then attended, the bill was
presented, and, on receiving the Royal assent,
her MAJESTY'S thanks were expressed by three
formal obeisances to the two Houses.

The House then adjourned till five o'clock, when
Lord GitEY presented a Message from the KING,
claiming a more suitable provision for the Duchess
of KLNI. and her daughter, the Princess ALEX-
AV DATA VICTORIA, the heiress presumptive to
the Throne.

Lord ABERDEEN then gave notice of a motion
for Monday on the political state of the
Azores.

Ir. the House of Commons the Committee on the
Urent Grimsby Election declared the last election
owing to the proofs of treating.
Petitions from Monmouthshire and Birmingham
were presented, craving greater dispatch in for-
warding the Reform Bill. The first was received,
hut the language of the latter, though in accord-
ance with public feeling, was deemed disrespectful
to the House, and withdrawn. Sir R. VYVTAN
then proposed to make observations upon it, but
r3S not permitted.

Petitions were then presented against further
:rants to the Kildare-street Society for Irish edu-
cation ; and also against the Irish tythe system.
Mr. ATTWOOD contended that the present wine
duties were collected without provision of law, and
:aye notice of a motion for accounts.

Alderman WOOD obtained leave to bring in a
Al to :regulate the speed of steam-vessels in the
l'ort of London.

In the Committee on the Reform Bill, Lord AL-
IfUnr stated that he found the Hamlet of Balling-
tc.o did not constitute part of Sudbury, which alone
Lad rot 4000 inhabitants; ho therefore moved that
it stand in B. Fifteen speeches then followed, and
Jirision of 157 for B, and 108 against it.
On the question that Totness stand in B, Mr.
BALDwiN contended that it had 4383 inhabitants,
and 213 houses of ElO, and Mr. Cot:RTNEY eon-
•idercd Bridgeton as Fart of it; but Lord J. Rvs-
nu. replied, and it was confirmed in the list.

On its being moved that the second clause as
'amended stand part of the Bill, no lees than 20
speeches pro and con were made, 14 against it,
Ail six in its favour, some of them, as Sir E.
S c. DEN'S. Mr. CROKER'S and Mr. BARING'S at
i;reat length ; but it vas agreed to without a

.~tl'l3loll.

The Committee then proceeded to schedule C,
huh includes the great tor.r.s that are to be en-
francliind and return tr.-G members.

MAticuctrrut stood first in the list, but Mr.
WoRTLET moved that Salford should be joined to
it, instead of haring k seperate representation.
This led to a debate, in which the original motion
wls supported by Mr. HUNT, Mr. HEYWOOD,
Mr. FERGUSON, Mr. SLANET, and Mr. Ew RT,
and the amendment by Mr. PELF A a, and partly by
Sir R. PEEL, when the amendment was withdrawn.
On re-putting the riuestion 011 MANCHESTER,
Sir R. PEEL did not object to enfranchising Man-
chester, Birmingham, and Leeds, but objected to
the other enfranchisements proposed in the clause.
Lord J. SUMIELL replied, and other speeches fol-
Nvcd between Sir R. PEEL and Lord JOHN ; Mr.
11 us; Sir C. WETHERELL, Lord ALTHORP,
and Su It. ENG Lis followed, when, without a divi
',IOU, MANCHESTER AND ITS TOWNSHIPS WERE
(ONTIRMED IN SCHEDULE C.

The question wa,; then put OD BIRMINGHAM, to
Which ASTON was added, and carried without

t)ppoeition.
The question was then put on the Borough and
liberty of LEEDS, and carried without a dissenting
vusce.
Thus the glorious and. all•important work of

ENFRANCHISESIENT is begun, and the positive
good will be more felt by the people than the
negative one of striking off the dead carcases of the
rotten boroughs. This was a necessary duty ; but
as it interfered with so many ancient vested interests,
it created opposition and delay. As there will be
none to oppose the conferring of new rights,
Schedule C. may therefore be expected to be
finished at another sitting. The following are the
other places in the Schedule ; but there is reason
to believe that others will be added, from Schedule
D, in consequence of population, and of represen-
tations, some of which have been made with
effect :—GIIEENWICII, SHEFFIELD, SUNDER-
LAND. DRYONPORT, WOLY ERR &UPTON, TOWER
HAMLETS, FINSBURY, WIRY-LE-BONE, and
LAMBETH.

Schedule C.—MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM,
LE EDS.—A greed to.

While the public are holding meetings to com-
plain of delay, Ministers are doing every thing
possible to accelerate progress. A meeting of mem-
bers has been convened at Lord ALTHORP'S, in
which be conjured those who had proposed amend-
ments to wave them for the sake of despatch ; and,
as a stimulus, stated that Parliament would not be
adjourned till the Bill was passed, if it were till
Christmas next, or even CHRISTMAS TMRLPE-
mown' ! This advise was well received;
but Lord MILTON seemed unwilling to abandon
his two amendments, conceiving that the mea-
sure ought at once to be made as perfect as
possible. The meeting, its object, and the lan-
guage of Lord ALTHORP, must, however, satisfy'
the public that Ministers are not merely in
earnest, but are themselves no cause of past
delay.

Saturday evening, in consequence of a request to
the Home Department from some of the authorities
in Oxford, a number of troops was sent from town in
waggons, &c. for that City, with strict injunc-
tions not to halt on their way thither.
ROYAL EXCHANGE, ONE O'CLOCK.

We understand that this day or to morrow a
loan will be contracted for Don Pedro, by which
means he will endeavour to place the young Queen
on the throne of Portugal.
Consols, which left off yesterday 82 if for ac-
count, opened at the same price, and continue so
at present with little doing. The foreign market
is not worth observation as yet.
We have no arrivals this morning, not even a
ship letter.

TWO O'CLOCK.
Consols have been the whole of the morning at
82i I, with little or nothing doing.
We bavo no remarks to make on the Foreign
Market ; prices much the same as yesterday.

HER O'CLOCK.
STOCI Excnxwas.—Bank Stook,Tß 20%. Three, per
Ct. Red. 834 14. Three per Ct. Consols, 824 44. Three
and a Half per Cent. let 1, 914. Three and a Half per Ct.
Rod. 90}_ 14. Three and $ Half per Cent. New,
904 4. Four per Cent. 1526, 904 f 4. Anauldes,
Jan. 1860, 17 5.16 5-16. Annuities, Oct. 17 3.16.
Annuities, Jan. 1860, India Stock, 900; do. Bonds,
1 pron. Old Annuities, —. ElOOO Exchequer Bills,
11 13; C5OO do. IS ; .ClOO and 4200 do. 12 13.
Consols for Account, 821
FOUR O'CLOCK—Consols, 82 I.
LIVERPOOL, Auo. I.—The Belem Castle is
arrived from Lisbon; sailed on the 17th ult. in
company with the packet for Falmouth. The
French squadron had taken eight sail of the Por-
tuguese fleet, and had sent the crews on shore.
The accounts from Warsaw by the Dutch
steamer to the 22d July, state, that on the 17th
the Russians had only completed half of the bridge
at Vreszawa, and 4,000 of them had passed over
on that day. Owing to the heavy rains which had
fallen for several days, nothing decisive bad taken
place. It was assured that the Russians bad aban-
doned the redoubts which they bad raised at tho
head of the bridge, and retired to the right side
of the Vistula. It was also stated that General
Golowin had repassed the Bug, and the remains of
his corps were collecting at Biala.
The Gazette of Warsaw says—" We have no
further news of the movements of our army.
From those already published, in regard to the
operations of the grand Russian army, it does not
appear that they have entirely passed to the left
side of the Vistula. All the reports agree in
stating that after the advanced guard, composed of
some thousands of men, passed the Vistula on
pontoons, the rest of the army was waiting for a
second bridge to be thrown over the Vistula ; and
the division stationed on the left side of the Vis-
tula, advanced to Wlozlawek, were driven out
from that town by our landwehr."
The Canton Register of the 19th Feb. has also
been received at the North and South American
Coffee-house.

MecAo.—The President and Select Committee
having had formal intimation made to them, by his
Excellency the Portuguese Governor of Macao,
that he had received orders from the existing go-
vernment of Portugal to prohibit the future resi-
dence of all individuals, foreign (including British)
merchants, who have not the previous sanction of
of the council of Lisbon, in Macao. We have lost
no time in communicating this information to his
Excellency the Governor General of India, as well
as to the authorities in England.
BRITISH FACTORY, MACAO, FEB. 14.-1
COMMERCIAL RIIMARILS.—The celebration of the
Chinese new year produces a perfect stagnation in
business, and since our last very few transactions
have occurred in any branch of commerce. We
omit the publication of a price current, as the prices
would be merely nominal.
Cotton in stock is now 93,634 bales, which ex-
ceeds the stock last year at the same period ;
15,000 bales of opium. Since our last publication
there has been very little alteration in our market.
The scarcity of cash usual at the new year has
occasioned a decline in the price. The arrival of
the Red Rover has not produced any effect. No
sales of new opium has been made.
Private advice. from Warsaw of the 21st ult.
state, that the reports in circulation of the city
being in great alarm is unfounded, bat, on the con-
trary, they feel perfectly secure from any attack
from the Russians. To show the tranquillity of
the place, there were balls taking place nightly.

M

CORONATION.—COURT OF CLAIMS.
A Council, consisting of the Marquis a/Lansdowne (Pre-
sident), Earl Grey, Viscount Lord Auddand,
Lord Dover, the Marquis of Clanticude, and Mr. M. A.
Taylor, again assembled yesterday at the Treasury Chant.
bets, Whitehall, to hear and determine claims relating to
the approaching coronation
As we have already noticed, the claimants are few cam.
wed with the last coronation, on account of the ceremony
being confined to the Abbey. The Council have declined
entettaining any application for suit or service that has not
reference to what win transpire within that sacred edifice.
The first application now made was on the part of the
Baron of Stafford, who claims the right of exercising the
office of High Constable to the King.
The Council did not, however, finally decide on the claim,
en account of the absence of SOON proceedings had before the
Attorney-General, and whose report thereon had not been
made.

This ease is to be again brought before the Council.
The Hon. bliss FeHowes had a petition presented, praying
to be appointed Flower-strewer. The petition, it was or-
dered, should be presented to the Privy CounciL
The petition of the Bishop of Bath and Wells, to support
his Majesty in the Abbey, was presented and allowed. The
Bishop of Durham is the other supporter, but his petition
has not yet been preferred.
The next ease was a petition on behalf of Lady Guy de
Ruthven, to present, by deputy, the gold spurs to his Ala-
jut,. In this cue the application was also allowed.
The Council then broke up, the Court having been de.
clued adjourned sine die.