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little; bet it was Weettery to the well-beietg of the r Justice Blackstone, *b.heifeelbat
country, that some steps should b© taken, if the his assertion. In the Roman Senate
Honitan, had formed that convection, to which alone even required from Cato, whewprobitt
dier tikikst have come, if neither fear nor favour, nor i bial. By voting the Address proposed;
aite iitertideration that he whom they judged was a the Duke of York Would be degraded,
• Ttliee, and a son of the King, bad inuenced them. ; of that which every British subject had
The. Noble Lord .had teat objections generally to :nand, An impartial and solemd hem
e Royal Familylrbolding takes of trust. To not denied to Lord Somers or Lord
touch what was so near the Throne looked like a hind why should it be re! used to his .Ikoyal.
of sacrilege. The Hee& must not, Itowearr, =that The my lamp-lighter who attended die'
account,
account, be deterred from doing their duty. They . not be refused it., surely, the dignity of
must consider themselves .as 410 t .bait 20 address the not be held eut as an argument for refuter,
Throne for the-removal from office of the Duke of , privileges of the most humble. The lei
York, but of fire Commander in Chief. In this the Duke of York, only demandiiag this
'light only was he to be considered ; if he were the immutable and eternal grounds of
looked upon in any other, judgment nurst be warped. be considered -as equitalele .aaad praise
The Noble Lord could not agree whiz' a doctolue An of the Hon.Certtreenan,
which had been laid down, that Another Cowman- privilege, was only a gilded 'd:e4ger,
der in Chief as excellent as the Duke of York could could not conceal ot counteract its venom,
not be found. There was undoubtedly considerable do by insinuation that wlaieh it 'would be
advantage to be derived from the Commander in noble to do by open means. Here he e,
Chief's being one .of the Royal Family ; but upon the jellying a compliment -to the eloqueace
Whole, there were so many inconveniences arising Lord '(Lord Folkestone), who . had In
from that circumstance, that 'he thought them much him over the plains of Hindustan,
;More than a counterbalance to that advantege.— was surprised how he could possibly.
Theexcellence of the Duke's generalship was nothing original Address.—He here &Lay a di
to the present _question—he might be'a.Duke of Mari- tween .neglect and 'corruption. Neglect
borough-.but it would be recollected, that the Duke •
taken
.placa, and it was mot to be wood,
of'Martborough himself wat removed from the corn- i extensive aft establishment as the milital
maaid of the oranyeand there was no man who would country—and, he thought, it might he
not agree-that the Duke of Marlborough was a much 1 some pardon. It would Ise but fair to tel
greater General than the Duke of York was, •or was "at once, whether the Duke was guilty
ever likely 'to become. It had been said that the or guilty of neglect, ot whether the desi
Duke would reform—the Noble Lord begged the him gat of office. (Hear, hear.) As to
House to recollect that the Duke was a man of Elec. of Mrs. clarke, he considered her but as
and-forty ; and though the Noble Lord believed, that bish--she should be put comeletely ow
where a man possessed the rudiments of wisdom, they Should have something more soli(
he would grow wiser as he grew older, he thought build a superstructure. Here the Hon
that where a man
.pussessed only. the rudiments of net went through the different canes, an,
folly, he would do nothing but grow more foolish. cularly on that of Colonel French's lev
The Duke •of York had acted foolishly and wrongly,! versation reported by Miss Taylor to ha,
he had, though a married man, kept one, two, three,; in her presence between *Mrs. Clarke any
!end the Noble Lord did not ',know how many more, York, he could not help considering r.
mistresses • and now he was to reform all of a sudden, reflected On the long time for which the
because the Right Hon. Gentleman told hint he had. rated the levy—a levy, too, for which s
sinned against the 7th commandment. The Noble' -men had been raised, when compared wi
Lord hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Cap- ber stipulated by the original contract::
ning) would now tell the House .where infamy was considered the general stigma which ha)
to fall— if upon the accused, he did not know how unfairly cast on the legal profession, mus
the House would determine—if upon the accuser, he. say, what he Was sure all the Crown La,
thought no other person would agree with the Right with equal justice say, that Cicero had
'Non. Gentleman. The Noble Lord concluded with trial of Verres, that he would much
, animadverting upon the Duke of York's letter, to the than. accuse. He was consoled when he
House, which, had certainly placed them in an awk- this case, by the consideration of the
ward predicament. He was accused, and told the. which it had been treated; by the cons,
'House he was innocent, 4, upon the honour of a all parties and persons in the House had ,
Prince," an .effixession never heard of before. By fairly, and impartially had given the op,
this foolish letter, he had only brought down a second went to direct their votes ; for his part,
nescpsation Upon hishead - that of falsehood too. The stituents the eyes of Argus, he would
,Noble Lord knew not by what logic it could be rented to his political career. In tonal
uvuld say, that
becauseheco notuld.twits
think of vi
juke's guilt or corruption, must I‘m'eustconnoWincineedvoitia.btie
originallly
tut him guilty of two things—corruption and false- nor would he vote for the Amendment
'hood. Gentleman on the floor, (Mr. Bankei
Lord STANLEY said, the House in its conside- merely dealt in insinuation ; he would '
ration of the present question, were not bound by the Duke of York with a knowledge of
legal opinions, nor by the rules Illegal evidence ; but proceedings ; and, whea the Rigfit Ho)
had .a rational right to give the conviction of their opposite ( the Chancellor of the Exchequ:
minds. The Noble Lord hoptal he came to this ques- Resolution tending to ulterior proceedin!
tion with a mind as free from bias as that of the certainly move the following Arnendme;
Learned Judge (Mr. Burton), or of any Member in e Resolved, that this House do believe his Rol
the House. If his Lordship's mind had any bias, it Con:lama.. in Chief.to have had a knowl?dge.
was, from the 'many personal obligations he had re-
practices, of which evidence had 17 en produced
ceived from his Royal Highness, rather in his favour Mr. RYDER said, if he was.to •vot
hDukee would
u ofl d
York's
the course conduct as
proposedtuo nal
than against him. But yet sifted as the evidence before
consider C
him had been, and in his Lordship's opinion rather
Baronet who bad just sat down, as more
too finely, he felt it impossible to say the Duke of
adopted
Hon
Gentleman opposite, because it by the House than the Amen,
York was innocent. Upon the charge of personal
.
corruption,_ and the evidence of Mrs. Clarke. the
manly, honourable, ard open. With
Noble Lord agreed with the last speaker. But the •
scantucloadverted-to testimony of ;Mrs.
evidence of Miss Tayler the Noble Lord defended, .
would not content himself lay saying ht
was not to be believed, but he would
and thought very strong. From the numerous ap•
felt Son; thought she would have been ceanmiti
plications of Mrs. Clarke, the 'Noble Lord
vinced, suspicions must have struck the Duke cis
York's mind ; and if the House had not heard a tittle by any judge in the land, and subjecto
ties of perjury evidence. He
for her
led to think much more favourably of Mi
of evidence at their bar, still his Lordship should
think that the letters on the table alone would prove
the improbabilities against her were so •
never could imwrine her entitled to the
his Royal Highness's connivance at corruption. If
there was a natairal ground for this suspicion, the di t. t. What I was it to be believed foi
Duke should be dismissed. In a former reign, the
even if the Duke of York had b
Duke of Cumberland had _not only been deprived cf that,
such corrupt prat
de as had been attend
all offices, but dismissed his Majesty's Councils and
he, would have made Miss Taylor ptivy
near, hear.):—Ntas it to be credited, that
presence for ever, in consequence of the capitulation
of Closterseven. The Noble Lord applied to the dit-
versation every did take place before her,
was, that it would
.be the only one
ficulty of making out charges against a Prince in the
high situation of the Duke of York, the speech of
wonld have been witness ? Was it ti
either that this conversation could havi
Angelo to Isabel, in Shakespearel Measure for
Measure : a minute impression upon her innocent
cious mind, that at the distance of tot
could repeat it word for word—(J/ear,
person living could for one moment give
high 4 improbable a story. But, as a
of her direct falsehood, he would mere)
answer which she had given, and then b
debility to the judgment of the House.
' ed, whether, at the time of conversatit
h. d with Mrs. Clarke only two days bet
sent inquiry, she had made any reierenr
pected inquiry. What was her allSrfl
indeed, I did not know about that.'
senses would believe her after this ?
said, that one who tells fal.sehoed ono
therefore to he discredited, as he neigh
speak truth, and that truth might preys
But how was it possible to know when
son spoke truth and when falsehood ? (
Suppo e, however, the Duke of Yerk
instead of honourable in his conduct—sr
always herded with the vilest, instead
with the hest of mankind - kept compat
tain Sanden, instead of such men a;
don—what.would be the immediate at
inference ? Why, certainly guilt-. Then,
revolutionary logic should not the very
sequence follow, a hen the very reverse
been proved—(Hear, hear.) -After alh t
which had been used—after ail the reven)
of Mrs. Clarke, nothing could be prove."
except indiscretion. Out of all the c(
of Mrs. Clarke with the Duke, the tilt;
tern which she h:td stated she had in hi
tmly.two could he at last produced to
shadow of imputltion against him. Li
then notvote-for an Address condemni
Meta on. proof it- found .him
• -; •r . '

Who will believe thee, Isabel?
My vouch against you, and my place i! the state,
Will so your accusation overwcigh,
. That you shall stifle in vitt, own report, •
And smell of calumny."
The Noble Lord then cursorily went over the cases
of Kennet, Carter, General Claver;ngsand Mr. Dow-
ler, to prove the influence of Mrs. Clarke, and the
gross and culpable negligence and connivance at cor-
ruption of the Duke of York, and conducted by sup-
porting the original Address.
Mr. LEYCkBTE 2 was desirous that the question
nn.which the House should divide should he plain
and intelligible,- to that when they came to vote, the
sentiments* of individuals might be apparent. The
Honourable and Learned Member first commented on
the inconsistency of the Honourable Gentleman's
(Mr. Bankes's) Amendment, which first acquitted
the Duke of York of personal corruption, and then
suspected him of it. If the Duke was guilty, let the
Hon. Gentleman say so, and the Duke would have
an opportunity of clearing himself. But was there
any justice in this method of implication ? The Ho-
. nourablq - and Learned Member then proceeded to
conuneitt at large upon the evidence, and said that
thotestimony of Mrs. Clarke would justify her trial
fur perjury, and would ensure her the pillory in any
Cotirrof.Jistice. The Honourable Gentleman con-
chided by ithtergius, that there was no charge of con-
nivance occoirupuon made out against the Duke of
York. • * •

Sir THOMAS TURTON began by assuring the
Mime that after all that had been said upon this sub-
ject, he would as briefly as possible trespass on their
patience. He adverted to the absolute impropriety
of passing sentence upon any man in the land, no •
Matter.what his rant,. at least .without. the formality
of an oath. :rigs, he tairloaas thecopinion 91 Mr.

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le could not
ace of the N„1,,,;e
an, but still he
ibly support th,
a dist inction be.
elect mit;ht have
ondered at in yn
litary one of this
t be deseivinp
o bell the country
lty of corrup:ioe,
desire vas to let
cs to the evidt tat
it as an tnuc:i rub.
out of the war ;
solid whereir, to
lonourable Lure.
and dwelt purti.
levy. The Qn.
have taken -ph:re
.and the Duke ei
g true, v.hea le.
the Duke tole..
rch so very few
with the nun:-
:r.• He, when he
t had been :nest
must beg leave to
&Lawyers rniph:
t had said on the
:h rather defend
at he reflected ut
the fairness with
:onsideration tht
had come forwat.!
e opinions which
)art, had his m-
ild wish them di-
,nclusion, he nwe
of voting for the
of determinative,
rent of the Hoe.
inlres) because it
ild charge
Of those corrt::,t
I-lon. Gentlentaa
equer) moved his
edings, he sltoul
drnent :
is Royal Highness ate
'dge of ttoie cumpt
iced at the Bar."
vote against tIT
Inlander in Chia:,
)sed by the H.
fore eligible to he
neadment cf
it was the mol
:ith respect to the
Mrs. Clarke,
g he thought ,h!
ouki also say Ls
rmiued to prim
.cted to the per,:,:-
He could not be
of Miss Tavlor—
• so great, that
the slightest cr.:-
I for a moment,
td been guilty et
atribumi to hint,
ivy to it —(floir,
that, if this col-
her, Sel jUIIS
ne to which she
t to be credited
have made such
:cnt and unsuspi-
' four years sh.:
FIB ar, hear.)--N 4
: give credit to s• 1
is a further proof
merely state One
en leave her ere-
se. She was ask-
'sad( n which she
rs berme the pre-
Tence to thy er-
tswer ? " Whv,
t.". Who' in hi:
s? It had been
once ought not
night atiettwar44
?rove important.
'hen such a per.
• ? ( licar,ketzt-)
rlc I:td been bast
—suppose he
ad of associating
npany with Cig-
as Colonel
e and necess3:l
'hen, by whetvile
Try- reverse co.!.
erne conduct hal
all the industry
revengeful mOke
roved againglir9
e correspondence
fifty or sbtty let•
her,posessielv
to show. even
Let the Ho se
•rrtnitcg him vie
gtaity..kt it-