Star.
London, England, 1823-03-11 00:00:00

TITHES IN IRELAND.

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The Earl of DAItNLEY said, he observed by the votes on
their Lordships' table, that a Bill was to be brought into the
Mouse of Commons by the Secretary fur Ireland, with a view
to forward the Commutation of Tithes in that part of the
United Kingdom. He considered the subject so important that
he could not avoid expressing a hope that the Noble Lord would
have the goodness lo state what the object of the intended mea.
sure was to be. He could not see why the subject had not been
Mentioned In that House. '
The Earl of LIVERPOOL—" I wish to know bow it is
possible to meet the wishes of the Noble Earl? There are cer-
tain provisions in this measure of a nature which makes it in-
convenieutthat the Bill should originate anywhere but in the other
branch of the Legislature. When the measure is in a state to
be laid before thit House, the most regular course will be to
move for Papers and print them. At the present time lam
not aware there is any example upon which information can be
expected by this House. I have no objection to the discussion
of this plan, but I do not know how, consistently with the
forms of the House, it is possible for me to bring on the consi-
deration. Every measure of this sort ought to have the most
serious consideration ; and so far from wishing to throw any
ob-
struction in the way, his Majesty's Government will be ready to
receive any suggestion Noble Lords may offer, with a view to
promote the welfare of Ireland. They will be glad to receive
the assistance of any person acquainted with that country, in or-
der to render perfect the details of the measure, but I do not see
how, consistent with Parliamentary practice, it is possible for
me to discuss the measure now."
Lord KING called the recollection of the Noble Earl to a
Bill brought in last year. The House did not consider the sub-
ject sufficiently intelligible, and the Noble Lord found a way of
bringing Information before the House, previous to the Bill being
brought from the Commons.
The Earl of DA RN LEY in reply, observed that the Noble
Earl appeared to call upon him to state some practical mode of
bringing the subject before the House. He could only say, be
really thought the Noble Earl might inform himself of every
thing that was passing on-the subject. It was generally admit-
ted that Ireland could not long remain without material altera-
tion in the laws and government, and he felt that the Noble
Earl would have acted more consistently If there had been a si-
multaneous opening of the intended measure to that House and
the other. It was necessary their Lordships should know more
of the matter than they were able to obtain from reports of pro-
ceedings In the other House.
The LORD CHANCELLOR was' persuaded that their
Lordships should proceed with caution when documents were
required which affected the conduct of the other House. It was
possible, in the case alluded to by the Noble Earl, a Bill might
be so modified ai to nullify the incipient reasoning of either
House, or the Bill might be thrown out. In either case it would
be wise not to prejudge the question.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Several Accourts and other Papers were presented • from
various Public Offices, which were ordered to lie on the table
and be ptinted.
Mr. BENNET presented a Petition from certain Inhabitants,
of St. Matthew, Bethnal-green, against the Vestry Bill of that
Parish:—Referred to the Committee on the Bill.
A new -Writ was ordered for Corfe Castle. in the. room of
Mr. Cleans llamas, who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds:
Petitions against the Ipsolvent Act were presented from Mon-
mouth, by Sir.Cit.tat.ss Mciaaau ; from Darlington, by Mr.
Lemma ; frOm Burslem, by Mr. LrreLmoN ; and from Mac-
clesfield, by Mr. EaitTON.—They were read, and ordered to
lie On-the table and be printed.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a Petition from Green-
wich against the Duty on Coal. •
Sir J. COTTERELL presented a Petition from certain Hop
Growers of Gloucester against the Hop Duty.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL and Mr. CURTEIS spoke in fa-
vour of the Petition, which was ordered to be printed.
Mr. C. DUNDAS presented a Petition- from Hungerford
against the Beer Duty.—Ordered toile on the table.
Mr. T. WILSON presented a Petition from the unsuccessful
Candidate at the late Election for Arundel, complaining that the
Election was illegal.—Ordered to be taken into consideration on
the 17th of April.
Lord A LTHORP, to correct a misunderstanding which had
e abroad, stated, that the Committee on the Small Debts'
Mill had no intention to interfere with existing jurisdictions. He
then moved for a List of the several Courts holding jurisdiction
to recover Small Debts.—Ordered.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a Petition from several
Gentry and Yeomanry of Somerset against the New Turnpike
Act.—Ordered to lie on the table and be printed.
Mr. LENNARD presented a Petition from Ipswich against
the Insolvent Act. The Hen. Member spoke generally la favour
of the Petition, and alluded particularly to certain details of the
insolvent Act, which he considered as partkalarly injurious to
the commercial classes of the community. He would not, how-
ever, advocate a return to the old law, giving the creditor a power
of perpetual imprisonment over the debtor.—The Petition was
ordered to be printed; as was another presented by the same
Honourable Member from certain parts of Suffolk, in favour of
the Small'Debts' Bill.
Lord EBRINGTON presented a Petition from Tavistock
against the Duty on Coal; and another from the Duke of Bed-
ford, as proprietor of a local jurisdiction, against the New Mar-
riage Act.
Mr. HUSKISSON presented a Petition from certain Inha-
bitants of Liverpool, against the Window Tax.. He thought
himself, however, that no further remission of taxation could
take place, consistent with what was due to the public service.—
Ordered to lie on the table.
The Irish Grand Jury Presentment Bill was read a first time,
and ordered, to be read a second time on Wednesday.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT moved for a Return of the Irish
Imports and Exports, from 1811 to 1823.—Ordered.
Mr. CURTEIS presented a Atition from Sussex, against the
Hop Duty..r-Ordered to lie on the table, and be printed. • •
Mr. Secretary PEEL, seeing a Noble Lord in his place who
had given notice of .a. motion the subject of Scotch Repre-
sentation for to-morrow, to know whether the Noble
Lord would consent to postpone the motion, in eonsidetation of
the absence, from illness, of his. Right Hon.. Friend, the Secre•
tary of State for Foreign Affairs I •
Lord A. HA AHLTON -said,ohe could not refuse the Mt.
ponetnent Which was requeited on account of the illness of that
Right Hon. Gentleinan, and he therefore postpone 4 the notice
,until to-morrow se'tinight.
Mr. ABERCROMBY, le the absence of his I-lon. FrieOd
the MeMber for Aye, gave notice that that Hon. Gentlemaq
,
wou4d,,on the 22d of April, brit* forward a motion for altering
'the _ ent practice of the_ Trial. by JUry 'in Criminal Cases in
•kotYw He gaers notice, also, that he would himself, on the
ikethett the siAtlc -mond, . bring forward .. motion respecting the
.case of Wilmnsearz.ray ikosehwirX, .
Pk_NV.;Dig C TlDta.ptesented a Petition from certain
Ishiiinyi cemplaining of the *camps of Pot*,
rates.—(Wigrecrin lie en the tible.
Sir W. DE CRESPIGNI shored
Kft* certain
Wag* to ehe*Alioiranitrs mete to the PoeW--Pefietrufl-is'zt'
111.... W. RIDLEY presented a l'etitlistr from Netrtalbril
against the Iniefeeist-Aet.* The Illt4."BatOnet. said, liellhdf
altered hits *pinion cif Chili subject; and thought, frosn
diet the Mt in tniesdait had been most mischleiou*in its
offsets. If So Ml jeity's Gbvertiment did' not se! the ntiessilf‘
• of , he should himself do so in the'eouref'
et die
• ft SMe. RIOLNY presiented'a Petition from the sismei
silessogaibirtiwilimais Thity:-,)lair PetitCsms was erdignd for
Is es the table, and be printed.
3k. RICARDO mewed that there be laid Wire tbd liwas