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London, England, 1813-09-18 00:00:00

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',Ards St., Giles's', They led the wAy. Before they
pitted with her, she never asked loam to go a diffe.
rent way to that they were going. Is quite a ;stranger
in London. Went straight home. Saw no lie it in her
room. Got a candle in a chandler's shop, and lighted
it. The man who kept the shop .IVAS M'Claren.—
Found Slattery and her children at home in bed, but
neither Clifford nor Leary.; while she was lighting
her p;pe it struck twelve o'clock. She Sat until she
smoked her pipe, and then went to bed. She could
not rest. Sheteot up at two o'clock, being quite tm-
easy. She sat in the window. unhappy at Clifford's
-art coming home, and fearful that he wits, according
.0 what she had been told, toile to Irdand. Between
Ihtee and four o'clock, she went, half 'dressed, to
T.eaiv's lodgings. When she came theie, she found
the street-door open ; went up to Leary's room. The
!sey was outside,_ and she unlocked the door. She
never noticed the key in a similar situation before.
,When she went into the ;vim, Mrs. Leary asked if
that was Jim ? (the prisoner's name) ; she replied,
it No ;it is I." Mrs. Lea** was in bed.. Witness
.asked where her husband *as ? and some eonversa-.
'Con took place. • •
Mr. ADOLPHUS objected to this conversation helng,
repented. as the Prisoner was not present. •
M. Aenerirs said, he. had no wish to press it, if
the Cpurt thotight it was impropett
The Court did not think it improper/. *lds* exaz
mination was continued: , . . .
•• She did not put any thing out of her hand into
the room : she sat on the itlits a while, and then Went
to Xi's: Charhpion's in Drury-lane ; found her at
home-.told her whathad passed, and the cause of her
distreii. Mrs. Champion went td witness's brothel.,
and.told him what had happened. She afterwards
went to witness's, lodgings. This was between eight
and nine. Had not heard at this time what had hap-
pened to ClOrad. Mrs. Singleton and some other
women told her of.the accident which had happened.
Tiaving imagined that Clifford had gone to Ireland,
her brother tai,l he-would interfere to get her a pais.
When she heard. of what had befallen Clifford, she
went out with Mrs. Chainpion, and a good many
more; to see the body. She saw;t at the Prince Re-
gent public-house. It was Clifford's—she knew it im-
eiediately. From the time of Leary and Clifford's
parting with her in•Holborn she never saw Clifford
fa she saw the corpse. Leary had asked her on-the
Sunday etinning. when he came to her room with his
wife, whether it was Clifford or she that had the Mo-
ney ? She answered she had .a little trifle of her own;
and that he had his own. She tried to carry her money
abaut her, and had it with her when she saw the body'.
She used to keep it in the waistband of her petticoat,',
but ripped it out to give the men something to drink
who had carried Clifford's body. In consequence; it
was found at a subsequent period by her children, on
the; floor. She give it to a Mr. Lawrence for safety,
since the murder • she had been delivered of it child
in Ake House of &section since the murder.
'6iit-ei;a4iittiii b.i Mfr. ADOLPHUS.
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;wallow. Leary or his wife Sefore her terival
sr, it ..testy. did tint call at her lodgings for
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gdo
fol With after she left his room. She had not told
Leary. Wu her husband had money on the first Satur
dai.m.ght Wite.nbe called on her, to s ak about get.
tin .her hifspanct work. ;After she ad been with
*.tart' foar days she met Slattery--s e had known
Itithen, as he eime froth the same heights( iirbood with
t,: 'tins never communicatbd to him that her hus-
band hid money. Was in London before when she
strass si'...' ili..ild : liired then in Parket'sAane, with her
*I near Drury-line and .Holborn. Did not
irlong she was in London. Cohld not tell
h dge was.. She is now SI, years of-age. Lived
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a yta4 ottwo with her brother in PaAtees-lane. Did
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not, alihTiugh Are s'o flied in London, know „bete
Helte.rn W'a3. She supposed 'she vigsable to run about
isliso she seal before in Lendon. Slit tan of messages
ftzi•liet lirbther. 'the properly she sold was a little
house. "'and' inure Mid, near Cakir,' in the. connti of
Tipperary I Sold. it'abOnt three months before She
came- ,to England ;.:it prriduced WO: Paid debts.
with paii pf it. •It was paid to her in ' Irish Bank-
not4;plift of which she changed for English Rink.
notes in 'Cerk.—Neeer Said the' money that' 'Clifford
had :vas part of the-piodUce of thr house. If she
raid so, and did not think shellidi. :sit was not due.
She alseqaltra.huise famine pounds ; of this money
Clifford had nopart. :Had ' undergone some exami-
nations before. She told the Magistrate that Clit-
ford was not her husband. Had no words at any
time with Clifford, but lived happily and comfortably
with him. Clifford had frequent ly said he. would
go back to Ireland. On the Sunday morning pre-
ceding the murder, Slattery bresdifasted with Fier.—
He renaained in Leary's. room when she went with
her husband to buy the bit. . She saw no hammer
in Leary's - room. Slattery went home with her,
and helped her to put up the beds ; partook of the
beer in the- afttrndon with Leary. When she went
home en Sunday night, she found Slattery in bed.
Did nut know whether he was asleep or not, Her
Ilttle gill spoke to her ; could not say whether she
iptike to Slattery or not. ' When she got up, in agita-
tion, did not speak to him. After having been to
Mrs. Champion, she went home. Slattery had-got up
and was gone to work. She was sure he was in bed
when she went out at four, for she saw his hat and
coat. She did not give her money to Mr. Lawrence
to keep till after the murder. This man keeps a
chandler's shop opposite her lodgings. When she was
first before the Magistrate, she was asked whether
she had any money ? and she said she had a trifle.—
§he was obliged to ask her way to Leary's on the
Monday morning.

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Re-examined by Mr. ANDREWS.
When she was at home she spoke English, but not
so well as now. She did not know her age, when she
was in London before, %tad had no-recollection of the
streets of London. She was too young when she was
here before to remember.

Charier Code, •Me of the Veers of Halton-Garden,
examined.
He stated, that in consequence of receiving intelli.
gence of the murder of Clifford, he proceeded to the
Prince Regent public:house. Having there beard
that some. suspicion was attached to Leary, he went
to his lodgings 'with Thistletun, a brother officers
While be was searching a box in Leary's room, This-
deton picked up a hammer, from under some coals,
lust by the fire-place. They observed some clothes
la the MUD, but bad sit time to examine them.

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lat*brk, Windmill•streiti zrwy
observed tii/O or three tam coining down from a
shell ; ones of ttm wee the
_prisoner ; he.had a hod
nit 'his shoulder. Witness went up to him directly,
and said, .. Where is your master?" He kimiediately
observed, 4. It is not nil. *taller you want, k it ww."
Thistleton said, it was him they wanted. They then
apprehended him. He said, Let me speak to my
master." Witness replied, Yes, certainly—*here
lc he ?" The prisoner went to a place about twenty
yards distant, where he was met by his master, to
whom he observed-4g I an! going with these gentle-
men to Hatton-Garden." He then went along with
them ; Thistleton laid hold of his arm; and witness
walked after him. At the time that the hammer was
found under the coals, it appeared to him that the
cuts in the hat of the deceased had been made by an
instrument of that kind. There was nothing parti-
cular on -the hammer. It was very rusty ; but he
could not 'say whether it *is occasioned by blood
or not.

Crosvexamined by Mr. ADOLPHUS.
He did not go to the publit house till half-past
twelve o'clock, when he heard of the murder. It
was the commoti talk in, every body's mouth. He
found Leary at his ordinaty work, in the usual place,
without any difficulty or impediment. He• was
searched, but no bank-stoles or property wets folk*
about him, except oni tightten-pennir piece. Thai,
was no property fouria in his lodgingr—he had gone
to work at his usual time—the hammer was rusty—
it was a shoemaker's hammer, and had Some white on it:
William Thistleten, anodeer °jeer
examined.

In consequence of the murder of Clifford, be went
to apprehend Leary, at a court in Windmill-'street,
where he was at work on a .job. He had a hod on
his shoulder ; and when asked for his Master, hi said
"It ii not my master yod want, bet me.," Witness
made •him no answer. The pnsoher said he. wohld
speak to his master before he went.. He said to his
master, " I am going with these two gentlemen to
i Hatton-garden." Mr. Helkone, his employer, asked
what was the Matter ? Witness said, but not in the
_prisoner's hearing, that a Minder had been commit-
Ted, and that Leafy could give sdme information
about it. In crossing Criltspur-street, the prisoner
saki, he :1 had heard of this poor man.'" Witneci
asked, "In what reioect ?" The .prisotier answered,
" that the man was killed." The news had gone
abroad in the neighbourhood at this time; witness
knew bf it at seven o'clock ; it was then ;sassed two.
Witness asked the prisoner how he had heard of the
murder ? His` answer was, " Never mind." He was
in Isis working diess at the time: He.said no more
to witness while he was in custody. He and Cooke,
his brother office, asked the prisoner some questions,
but as he did not seem willing to answer them, they
pressed him no further. Neither of the hammers which
they found wire used by bricklayer's labourers. One
of them, which witness found in Leary's room, under
some coals, was a shoemaker's hammer. It was be.
fore Leary was taken into ctibtody that he searched
his apartment, ail, in a corner, beside the fire-place,
nnsitr i small quantity of mkt, the shoemaker's
-henirper was discoeited. The outer hammer was
ibued iir Mrs. Clifford's apartment, in Fitzroy-market,
about a week after the Murder; Witness recollected
itt.Caetliy, . formerly a publica,n, coming to the
office, while the prisoner was detained there. He
understood tram Leary that hi wished to see M'Car.
thy. When M'Carthy cane, lie piked hitn and the
Prisoner in the strong rooth belonging to the Offict,
having first told tseCarthy that he had no objection
to his seeing the prisoner provided that they spoke in
English, so that the witness might understand them.
He then locked theth in the rontWand heard what
joassed• betaren them. When M'Carthy first came in,
Leary aid--..-1, What do you think of this job of
mine r, M'Carthy answered, " I think it is a very
b d case—l think the evidence t•hich will be brought
against yob this day will be sufficient to hang you :"
and he urged• him a great deal, if he was guilty, to
acknowkege it., for the purpose of clearing the rest
of his'coutary nien Wu) were its custody. Leary said,
" If he valid get a person to prove that he was at
hoMe and in bed at tea o'clock on the night of the
murder, it would be all right." M'Caithy immedi-
ately observed, 44 Suppose you could get e person to
prove that, wi.ere were you froM the tithe you parted
from Mrs. Clifford until ten o'clock ?" Leary said
in reply, "'1 o answer that is where I am lost."—
M'Carthy rejoined, " I think frothing twill get you
through this business." Leary observed, " I must
tell you, there is but one thing that.can save me—l
can fix it upon some one else." M'Carthy filen said;
If that's what you sent for me for, I will leave,
yoti to your fats—you may be hanged like a dog,
and not one of your countrymen shall come forward
to give you a shitting." Witness then knocked at
: the door, and asked, would they come out l—they
: did so, and nothing more passed in his hearing.—
' fhis took place on the Thursday after the Prisoner
: was apprehended, and subsequent to his first exa-
, minatien.

Cron-examined by M. Amman..
The second hammer was found at Mrs. Clifford's
lodging, it had a wooden handle and iron cheeks.—
Witness could not say that if put into,the bosom of a
woman's stays, it would look something like a busk.
The other (meaning the shoemaker's hammer) could
not, be supposed, be placed in that situation. It was
not impossible that such a hammer,although not made
for bricklayers, might be used by them, it would do
for picking out mortar. At the titne of the prisoner's
interview with M'Carthy, such circumstances had
been laid before the Magistrates, its caused his deten-
tion. Mrs. Clifford had not kin then examined, but
she was examined in the course of the day. She stated
most of the circumstances which she had jost detailed
in evidence. Witness was in the passage, close to the
door, when the conversation with M'Carthy took
place. He opened the door himself for M'Carthy,
and put him in. Witness could not say positively
that the prisoner did not-know what he had observed
to M'Carthy, Its to :Freaking in English ; as he stated
it at the door, he might have heard it, but witness
shouldrather think he did..net. The prisoner Con-
versed with M'Carthy without restraint; he saw the
witness open the door—there was a grating in the
door, through which ally person speaking in a com-
mon voice nfiglit be heard. -Witness was not present
when the disclosure was made that Mrs. Burke was
not married to Clifford ; neither was he present when
she acknowledged that Lawrence bad money of per's'