Star.
London, England, 1813-06-30 00:00:00

HOUSE 01, LORDS, JUNE ft

Their Lordships met, according to agreement, in a Committee
of Privileges on tht• Airly Peerage ; the further proceedings in
which arc deferred till this day sennight.
Mr. Lvs at ail' ON, and others, from the Commons, brought op
the MAI astillation, the Pot-Ash, and the Strand Bridge Amend-
ment Bills, which were read the ant time.

Counsel w-re beard at the Bar relative to the New Street Bill
before the Committee, when Mr. WARRBII, in behalf of the
Commissioners of Sewers, and Mr. Hammon, in support of the
having urged their respective arguments, the further coma-
&ration was, upon theltiotion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL, re.
Wto a Committee above st airs, which was ordered to sit on
rathy no-=t.
The Militia Adjutants and the Militia Subalterns Bills went
though a Committee, and were ordered to be Reported.,
THE REGENT'S MESSAGE.
The Order of the Day for taking into consideration
the Message presented yesterday by his Royal High-
ness the Prince Regent being read,
The Pearl of LIVERPOOL rose to move that an
bumble Address be presented to the Prince Regent.
He should not take up much of their Lordships' time.
Whatever difference oropinions or sentiments might
exist among their Lordships relative to the condition,
the prospects, and the policy of this country, and of
• Europe generally, there could be no doubt, he was
persuaded, in their minds, as to the expediency, at
the present moment, of vesting confidence in his Ma-
jesty's Ministers, whomsoever they might be. He
was aware that the sum of aid proposed was very
considerable, but such as, he was confident, the wis-
' dom and discernment of their Lordships, whether
they looked to the state of affairs in the South, or con-
templated the proceedings in the North of Europe,
would deem it expedient and proper to afford. It was
not incumbent on him, or seasonable then, to enter
into a justification of the general measures of his Ma-
jesty's present Government. But to this conclusion
was sure their Lordships would come—that Mini.
eters should be invested with proper authority, and
with adequate means to exert it. He should not further
detain their Lordships than by moving,
That an humble Address be presented to his Royal High-
ness the Pristce Regent, thanking his Royal Highness for his
gracieu, Message; and assuring him, that the house would
• adopt such measures as were best calculated to carry the objects
of at into effect."

Lord HOLLAND had no desire to enter in detail
on the sulliect before their Lordships, not from a
feeling that it did not admit of earnest and ample
examination, but because he was unprepared by an
intimation hardy exceeding twenty-four hours, for
the discussion of questioris involving the deepest in-
terests of this ccurary and of Europe. Short, how.
ever, as the notice had been, and limited as the means
were of his entering into the question, it was impos-
sible for him not to express his deep regret that a con-
venis nt and most le•peful opportunity for facilitating
at least, it not accomplishing, what all Europe lan-
guished for—a general peace—was lost last year. If
their Lordships would compare the present situation
of this country, and of our Allies, with what it was
about six or seven months back, they would at once
perceive the injurious disparity. At the former pe-
riod to whicn he alluded, peace might, with honour
and dignity and great hope, have been offered to the
enemy—but no proof or indication of such a wish, no
effort whatever to that effect was made by his Ma-
jesty's Ministers, or any measures embraced for resist-
sag the ov,igrown and preponderating power of
Frame. he would call the attention of their Lord.
ships to that period, when the French Emperor was
compelled to retreat from Russia. He would request
of them to consider what the effect of that retreat
would naturally be in France, and how much thereby
the potency of the French Emperor must beimpaired.
Wahl'a view to peace then, that object wished by
' all, what must be the difference between tke periods ?
What had we riot to look for from the former, what
remained for us in the latter ? The fact was. Bona-
parte had in the conduct of .his enemies found the
r ablest rccinizing.offico-s to Carry on his Measures.—
ills Lordship concluded with moving an Amend-
ment to the Address, recommending to his Royal
• Highness to sieze the first opportunity of endeavour-
. ing to obtain a peace, Without injury to the honour
and dignity of the Crown, or to the welfare, interests,
and happiness of this country, and of our Allies.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL, for the reasons al-
ready named, was unwilling to enter into or protract
discussion. The Noble Lord (Holland) had very
fairly stated his distrust of his Majesty's Ministers,
and advanced that distrust as the ground of his
amendment. An opportunity had been lost, it seem-
ed, last year from the backwardness of Ministers to
make peace. He could produce better authority than
even that of thelslobleLord why peace could not then
be attained—authority no less than that of Bonaparte
P ; himself, who, even after his retreat from Moscow,
t and with all the probable influence of that retreat,
not only on the people of France but throughout
Europe, sent forth a declaration of his intentions, in
/: utter opposition to any terms of peace, which could
either with honour or reason be listened to by the
;
• test of Europe. But whatever opinions might gene-
) rally or respectively be entertained as to the expedi-
ency or policy of peaceful neciations, nothing, in
~) his mind, could be more adverse or tend more di-
rectly to defeat that object than the amendment
\ L moved by the Noble Lord.
' The Earl of LAUDERDALE agreed completely
in every part of his Noble Friend's (Lord Holland)
? argument. He would ask the Noble Secretary of
State whether he could deny that peace was a desir-
able object, or if it were not so by Ministers, whether
it was not clearly so by the Public ? His Noble
Friend had distinctly shewn that an opportunity for
)
'j snaking an advantageous peace had occurred, and
that the opportunity was lost. His Noble Friend had
V been charged with withholding confidence from Mi-
. misters. The accusation was an awkward one. His
Nolile Friend, in the indulgence of his generous na-
ture, had given liberal credit to Ministers at the early
• part of the Session, and if they had forfeited their
claim to its continuance the fault was not with his
'Noble Friend.
Lord HOLLAND explained.
The Address was then agreed to and ordered to
be tarried up to his Royal Highness by the Lords
'with white staves.—Adjourned till to-morrow.
HOUSE. OF COMMONS.

The The Arms Bill was ordered to be reported to-morrow.
Lott* D} sERT obtained leave to bring in a Pill to amend the
Sill fur granting £5( ,tha to the Imb Royal Canal Company.
'I be Walt Canal Company Bill was read a third time, and
passed; as were the Trinity Doetrioe Bill, the Funded Debt Bill,
1164 the Duty hes Otuds BIN and maul odes MX

Mr. 112MIEY site lades that he should, en Mondinhtiot
forward a motion on the state of the F►nances.

Mr. ROSE brought in a Bill for regulating the Registering of
Births and Burials. Read a first, and ordered to be read a se-
cond time to-morrow.
The Report of the Windsur Forest Bill was received, and the
Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.