Star.
London, England, 1815-03-04 00:00:00

doted to enible Our farmers to live. We ono ht not ti
grow quite enough for our own conmimption, in or.
der that our manufactures might he taken in ea.
change for the portion supplied by foreigners. If te.,
:do, w e shall derange commerce ; and in older that
no such derangement might he hazarded, a modetate
impoa44ipn Wpuld he delfirable.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT declared that nobody
was more concerned for the nunufacturing inures,
than himself I and if lie bepeved that this Pleasure,
while it benefited the agrieultural interests, would
injure our manufactures, he would not
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thedeliberations
that House, under unexampled pressure. Lir Ireland
the great proportion of the whole population -ewe
wholly dependent upon agriculture, and it they were
not encouraged, they must absolutely starve, as they
had no relief from poor laws. He could prove that
the majority of the labouring poor inli tilt mid
di;
been, 'from the middle of November till
of January, waiting for agricultural Lhour, and had
not been able to gain .t day's employment. He
would appeal to the manufacturers, and ask them
whether they w •tild wish such a I age proportion :si
the Irish population to be placed in such a Sitii.t:lcn
and also, whether, by withholding the bkasings with.
in their reach, they would hazard keeping that pool.
lation in a condition that would inaku them &Inge.
roue to the rest of the community ? The Right
Hon. Baronet then quoted, from a statement of we
population of certain manufacturing districts in lit.
land, the numbers devoted to agriculture, and
misted thtin with those employed in manufactures,
and proved that even in th.t;e places de proportion
of the agriculturists was as two to one oldie aitisans.
From this lie drew the inference, that the checking
of the agriculture of Ireland would be vitally telt in
every part of that count y. lie then .repeated the
arguments he had lately advanced respe,ting the
benefit derived by our manufacturing interests, from
the interchange with Ireland of their v.-is for core,
and contended that as, by the prohibition of all lu-
reign manufactured goods, Ireland had been mad-
completely dependent upon England, it was but
right that she should look to her for relief. At vv..
sent, however, he contended, the want of confidence
between the two countries had b: come so gicat, that
their commercial intercourse was nearly suspended.
He deprecated the Amendment now proposed, the
interest of which was evidently to put off all tattier
discussion for another year. It had been urged that
the delay would give time far petitioning agawst the
Bill from every part of the Empite; but it the tame
pains had been taken in Ireland, to prodace
on the opposite side of the question, as had beta
taken here, against the Dill, there could be no doubt
that they would have been proportionably numerous.
In all questions concerning subsistence, the 11 u,c
ought to use its own discrelion, and not be ssaayed
by Petitioners, for it was well known that the peopl!
at large, so tar from considering what was their real
-interest, would be ready to purchase a cheap leaf for
the present, though inevitable faunae should be the
future consequence. The Right Hon. Baronet, alta
much farther argument in behalf of Irelarid,concliiii•
ed with strongly deprecating delay, ;is tending la
drive the country into situation to which ev,:iy r.t•
tional man must lament to see it reduced.

Sir FREDERIC:Ii FLOOD considered the
amendment to be monstrous, and contended that de-
lay would have the effect of throwing Ireland into a
state of agitation. He would tell those who hai
asserted that the Ifslt homer WAS not oppressed 'ay
taxes, that there was almost ever y tax ill Lion croft•
try as in England : there was the horse-tax,,the se:-
vants'•tax, the window-tax, and there was ere other-
wirier the people of England knew nothing :boar,
but which he wished to see introduced, as it woure
fall upon the rich—he meant the heotiotax. 1-le
repeated many of the argumenis that had been ad-
duced in behalf of the jut aAriculturist, and atter
descanting on the mrcessity et both parts of the em-
pire being on the most friendly touting to ether, he
concluded with giving his decided nogative to the
amendment.
Alderman C. SMITH said, the amendment thettld
have his vote, as a pure friend to his country. To
oppose it would look as if the House was a•raid to give
time for receiving the Petitions, the prayers of whitar
would prove irresistible.
Mr. LAMBERT said, that he had had many op-
portunities of witnessing the ex:teme distress of agri-
cultural !aboard's. Since the last recess more corr.
plaints had been made to him of want of weri:,
than he had ever heard since he had been in the cerno
mission of the peace. An opinion had gone forth
that this measure would raise the price of corn : ht;:
how was this elite' to be produced? All enquiries
into the state of the corn market at this time, prove
that it is very low and dull. As far as pools would
go, be was confident that a rise in the price was not
the elect to he (cared.
Lord MILTON, although be was ready to ad.
mit that the principle of free trade was the true piia-
ciple to produce equal benefit, yet could not be c:;i•
lows to the present distressed state of the agricuitLya;
interetes. The cheapness of corn was of no atlvart•
cage to the labourer, wilt") he ct.uld not get emplo;.-
nrent. The Noble Lord, to sliew the general d;:•
tress which prevailed at tais time in Yorkshire, men-
tioned a town the whole population a wl.icl► con
sisted of :3,000 persons, and one-half of whom were
actually receiving parochial relict. In the manuf.to
curing part? of 1 orkshire the distress was exactly 11'
Same as in the manulacturing towns. lie would asN,
were we to shut our eyes against the impending slot
of the farmer, or were we to ruin him and stirve
(labourer? It some means were not taken to relit:•:c
the farmer from his distressed situation, he had no
hesitation in saying, that in a few years the ai:ticl::,
ture of the country would be destroyod. His I.e r-!-.
ship, at the same th,ught, that the effect a:
the Bill would be much improved by not being m.',-1
permanent. The quantity' of Coro last year was
very inferior to that of the year precechug. The le"
turns of old corn two months ago were at "0.3-
he did not think this was a price which would reduce
the farmer. He objected at present to laying down
any thing like a permanent system. He had fires:
diffidence in coming to this conclusion ; but he sa
the unparalleled distress of agricultural psopettY, ar.4,
wAs,coneincad that, it would be. completely destroy.;
the qetem was much longer continued. Whew,:
the price ought to be 725. or 755. as a permanell
• he was not prepared to say ; but he thous.