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AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS.

1411. HENRY HUNT.

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:) certainly stu•-_
measure for the consideration of the House. He felt that he
was compelled thus early to call their Lordships attention to a
subject of so much importance.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL replied, that it was not his in-
tention to propose any plan in reference to the question ad-
verted to by the Noble Lord : he understood, however, that a
Noble Friend of his would take an early opportunity of intro-
ducing some measure in the other House of Parliament, which
he hoped would meet the eel gency of the case. It was certainly 11
more advisable that it should originate in that House than with
their Lordships, as the question was one which assumed a dis-
tinctive character.
The Earl of SOMERS presented s Petition from the Agri-
culturists of the Hundreds of Wisbeach, in Cambridgeshire.
complaining of distress, and praying for relief.—Read and
Mt the table. . •
STATE OF IRELAND.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL understanding that the Sins re-
specting Ireland, which were in progress through the other
House, were not likely to come down at a convenient boor to-
night, submitted to their Lordships whether it might not be ex-
pedient that the order for suspending the Standing Orders
• should be discharged, and that it should stand for to-morrow,
with the view that they should then meet, at five o'clock, to
discuss the question. He hoped their Lordships would see no
objection to this arrangement, and should therefore move that
the Order for this day be discharged, and that the Standing Or-
der* be suspended for tomorrow.
The Marquis of J.ANSDOWN, though he thought it an ob-
jectionable course for a Bill to be read three times in one day,
at he understood was contemplated in this instance, would not,
however, oppose the motion, presuming, as he must do, on the
• necessity of the ease as the only reason that could be offered in
support of it : but he hoped that to-morrow the Haulm would be
as wen attended as on any other day in the week.
The Ordtr was then discharged, and the Standing Orders were
ordered to be suspended for to-morrow.—Adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

At a quarter before one o'clock the Sraaxxta entered the
_House, and immediately took the chair.
The SPILAIIII then adjourned the House during pleasure, and
proceeded with the Mace to present the Address of the House
to his Majesty.
The House did not resume until a short time before five.
The STJAKICR was then proceeding to acquaint the House that
the House had been to his Majesty, when
Lord FOLKSTONE rose to enter his protest against the
manner in which the House had been that day adjourned. He
believed such an adjournment was without precedent, and that
there was no instance of the House meeting in the early part of
the day, and then adjourning over beyond four o'clock on the
same day, the usual time for proceeding to business. One in-
convenience, at least, would attend such an adjournment, that if
art important question was to be agitated the same night, and
that a new Member wished to take a part in it, he was precluded
from doing so by not having an opportunity of taking the oaths,
for by the practice of the House no Member was allowed to take
the oaths after four o'clock. He did not mean to say that the
inconvenience of which he had spoken occurred that day, but be
wished to guard the House against this being made a precedent
for future proceedings. He would say, If it was tree that any'
Member had been precluded from taking the oaths that day,
that he thought the debate which was expected should be post-
poned until such Member could have an opportunity of qualify-
ing himself to take a part in it—(Hear).
The SPEAKER explained, that the circumstance which
obliged the House to meet at an early hour this day. was to go
up with the Address to the King. His Majesty's answer as to
when be would-be pleased to receive the Address, was not re-
ceived till a late hour this morning, and as he fixed upon one
o'clock as the hour for receiving it, the House had no alternative
but to comply with his Majesty's desire. As the whole House
was going up, it was necessary for the Speaker to take the chair
first, and it was then necessary to adjourn the House, else the
Mace could not be removed. But when there was an adjourn-
ment at all, it was as competent to adjourn for twenty-four
hours as for three. There could be no imputation upon the
Chair, because the adjournment had been moved by a Member.
With regard to the inconvenience which was said to arise from
Members being precluded from taking the oaths, he would re-
mark, that if any Gentleman was disposed to qualify himself, be
might have taken the oaths when the House met at one o'clock.
There were instances without number of the House meeting
twice, and making two sittings in the same day.
Tice Marquis of LONDONDERRY, referring to the Jour-
nals, said, that on the 29th of January, 1917, this House met at
half-past one, for the purpose of presenting an Address to the
Prince Regent, and did not meet again until five.
Lord FOLKSTONE, in explanation, denied having meant to
cast any imputation upon the Chair.
The SPEAKER then reported to the House the gracious An-
swer which his Majesty had been pleased to give to the Address
of the Home.
Mr. DRUM MOND brought up the Report of the Committee
upon the Edinburgh Police Petition.—Leave was given to bring
in a Bill founded upon the same.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY gave notice of a motion
for this day sennight (Friday) for taking into consideration that
paragraph in his Majesty's Speech, relating to the distress of the
Agriculturists.

Mr. Alderman WOOD said, he held in his hand a
Petition from Mr. Henry Hunt, with whose name this
House was not entirely unacquainted. This indivi-
dual was now confined in Ilchester Jail, and his Pe-
tition to this House was to complain, that he had
been prevented by the Jailor from seeing his family,
his solicitor, or his medical adviser. Mr. Hunt com-
plained, that for some time past his confinement in H-
amster Jail was aggravated by every circumstance of
inhumanity and inattention to his wants and feelings
which his Jailor could offer. It would be recollected,
that upon the representations of Mr. Hunt, a Com-
mission of Inquiry was made out for lichester
Since the first sitting of that Commission to the pre-
sent time, Mr. Hunt had been placed in an extraor-
dinary situation—he had been treated in every respect
as a felon, and debarred from all communication
with his solicitor and physician. From long and
close confinement his health had been much impaired,
and as his medical adviser lived five miles off, he was
exposed to all the consequences of a weak state of
body, without the immediate aid of medical advice.
He (Mr. Alderman Wood) understood that there were
certain rules for the regulation of this prison, framed
by the Magistrates, under an Act of Parliament, and
signed by two or three of the Judges. But it was a
littleextraordinary; that though these rules had been
made for several years, they were never signed by the
Judges until the last Assizes for the County of So-
merset. He certainly thought this an extraordinary
circumstance, and he could not account for it other-
wise than by supposing that the Judges refused to
sanction these rules, on account of their severity—
(llear).—The Petition set forth, that Mr. Hunt was
debarred all intercourse with his family, his physi-
can, and his solicitor. He h.td applied to the Cowl
of King's Bench, and the Judges of that Coutt made
an order that he should be allowed to see his physi-
cian and solicitor, but beyond that the order did not
extend. He (Mr. Alderman Wood) had not seen the
rules of the prison, but he understood they were very
severe. He believed there were other jails, where
even felons were allowed to see their Families and so-,

Place, who would-confirm his statement. He thought
it his duty to give notice that, on a future day, he
would bring the whole matter under the considera-
tion of the House. At present he would not take up
more time, but express a hope that the prayer of the
Petitioner for relief would be attended with effect.—
The Jailor had no right to aggravate the sentence
passed upon Mr. Hunt; and it was stated expressly
by the Learned Judge who pronounced the judg-
ment upon him, that he was not to be kept in solitary ,
confinement—(Hear).—He concluded by moving that
the Petition be brought up.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the allu-
sion to the judgment upon Mr. Hunt called upon him
to.state some circumstances connected with that event
immediately within his own knowledge. He should
state to the House that an application had been model
by Mr. Hunt to the Court of King's Bench, com-
plaining that he was prevented from having inter-
course with his solicitor, and medical adviser. Upon
this application the Judges made an order, calling
upon the Magistrates to show cause why this indivi-
dual should not be admitted to the exercise of the
rights, of the loss of which be complained, and the
cause was still depending in that Court. The affida-
vits in answer had not yet arrived in tows; but when
they did argive the whole matter would be put into
a train of satisfactory judicial investigation in the
Court of King's Bench, and if any individual was to
be charged with impropriety, that would be the pro-
per place for inquiring into it. He only mentioned;,
this circumstance, as the application to the Court of
King's Bench was alluded to by the worthy Alderman
who presented this Petition.
Mr. DICKINSON was rising in order to say a
few words, when
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT rose and said, that'
when he heard the answer given to this Petition by
Gentlemen at the other side of the House, he could
no longer remain silent. He asked, was this Peti-
tioner to be told that, because he had made an appli-
cation to a Court of Law, his case was not afair sub-
ject of discussion in that House?—( Hear, hear.)—Per-
haps the question was a fit one for the consideration
of the Judges of the Court of King's Bench, but it
was not less so for the High Court of Parliament.—
And suppose Mr. Hunt obtained all that he asked at
present from the King's Bench—that they ordered
him to have access to his physician, was it to follow
that he was to be permitted to see no other persons?
What right had the Judges of that Court to enlarge
the punishment upon Mr. Hunt? What right had
they to enlarge the sentence, which was but simple
imprisonment—to aggravate a sentence which was
already so disgraceful—(Hear, hear)—than which
nothing was more calculated to bring the adminis-
tration of the laws into contempt--and than which
there was no sentence on record so outrageous since
the infamous times of the Stuarts?—(Hear, hear).—
It was by such sentences, and the despotism which
they attempted to uphold, that that family were
hurled from the throne of this country. It was, as
Lord Clarendon said, by inflicting punishments dis-
proportioned to the offence—by visiting not the acts,
but the persons of the defendants—by executing law
more in the spirit of vengeance than justice—by visit-
ing old sores, and paying off old accounts with indi-
viduals when they got them into their hands, that
disgrace was brought upon the laws, and odium upon ,
their administration—(Hear).—Under any circum-
stances, long confinement was a dreadful punishment.
It was so dreadful a punishment, that he (Sir Francis)
would almost as soon be sentenced to death as to
three years imprisonment—(Hear)—There was no
doubt but that Mr. Hunt's health was impaired by
confinement, and so would the health of any man
by so long an imprisonment—(Hear).—He had no
hesitation in saying, that so long a confinement was
a species of torture—and torture of the worst kind
too, because the sufferings were hid from the eyes of
the Public. He could not let this opportunity slip
without giving an opinion upon the sentence pro-
nounced upon Mr. Hunt. Looking at the course of
the trial, and the summing up of the Learned Judge,
it appeared to him that Mr. Hunt was acquitted of
every count in the indictment except one,which con-
tained not a charge of fact but one raised by impli-
cation of law. Ihe charge of which Mr. Hunt was
convicted was for having attended an illegal Meet-
ing ; but the illegality of that Meeting was a matter
of law, and Mr. Hunt could not have known that it
was illegal--(Hear).—Most certainly, abstracted
from the illegality of the Meeting, the conduct of
Mr. Hunt there was not only not illegal, but, on the
contrary, exemplary and meritorious. In this case it
was a misfortune to Mr. Hunt to be tried by a Jury ;
for, when one looked at the summing up of the
Learned Judge, one could inter, that if he had been
tried by him alone, he would have been acquitted.
Mr. Hunt was no more guilty of a knowledge of the
illegality of the Meeting than any man or woman
who was there. Indeed, from the circumstance of
the Magistrates having called a similar Meeting
before, he was almost justified in supposing that the
Meeting was a legal one—(Hear).—The Meeting.
therefore, might well be supposed to have taken place
under the sanction of the Magistrates, and, up to the
time that it was dispersed, nothing had happened
which, in the judgment of Mr. Hunt, or any reason-
able man, could change its character. However, Mr.
Hunt was convicted of bringing together an assembly
of people, which, even amongst the lawyers, became
a question whether it was an illegal Meeting or not.
Surely, under these circumstances, one would think,
the slightest possible punishment would th
satisfy' e
, justice of the case. But, on the contrary, the House
would see the injustice of having the sentence ag-
gravated upon an individual who had done a great
public service, and had exposed the conduct of an
officer who bad abused the trust reposed •
in If ins--
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( ear).—He again asserted that it was scandalous
to allow the Magistrates of Somerset, or the jailor.
to aggravate the sentence of the Court. With regard
to the rules of the prison, they were made for felon,.
Whether they were severe or not, he (Sir Fratscis)
could nut say; as they did not apply to Mr. Huntsl

were in a process being .
served to shear the pa axiom with which he was still
pursued—(Hear).—Mr.'Hunt did not stand alone,
and it was the duty of the House to look with jealousy
at the conduct which was observed towards him, as
the same oppressions might continue to be practised
with the same impunity upon every member of the
community—( Hear).
Mr. BATHURST deprecated discussion upon Mr.
Hunt's case in this House, whilst it was. still under
investigation in a Court of Law. The Right Hon.,
Gentleman defended the conduct pursued by Govern-
ment towards Mr. Hunt, whose offence he represented ,
as one of an aggravated nature.
Mr. BENNET said he was anxious to know the,
names of the Magistrates who frained the rules in
question, and of the Judges who sanctioned them....,
He wished to know who they were that ordered a per.
son in Mr. Hunt's situation to be shut up, in direct
violation of his sentence, which was that he should
not be consigned to solitary imprisonment. He
would like to now who the Magistrates and Judges
were that treated him as a felon, and shut the doots
against his family, his physician, and his solicitor—
(ffear). He knew no jail where even felons were pre-
vented from seeing their solicitors and families. He
was at a Lou to imagine how any Magistrates could
dare to assume such powers. He wondered that as
men, as fathers, they would be guilty of such acts of
inhumanity. But it was said that this was a question
more fit for the King's Bench than this House. He
had no complaints to make against the Judges of
that Court—he believed them upright and honour-
Airmen but he asked by what authority the order
was made for preventing him from seeing those who
had an undoubted right of access to him ? Was it
for his security ? Did he try to escape ? ff he did,
he ought to have been put in irons. But if he did
not try to escape, why place him in solitary con-
finement ? Instead of harsh treatment, he rather de-
served
credit for having detected guilt and exposed
misrepresentation. But at the same time that he
(Mr. Bennet) stood up for the oppressed, he did not
wish to have it understood that he was an advocate
for any of Mr. Hunt's acts. In looking at these acts,
however, he could not help calling the judgment ini-
quitous—(Hear, hear). The Hon. Member con-
cluded by saying, that he would haie made this case
the subject of a motion in this House before now, but
he knew that the inevitable result would be disap-
pointment and failure—(Heat).
Mr. DICKINSON defended the conduct of the
Magistrates, and denied that Mr. Hunt became a vic-
tim to any severe rules, merely because he had pro.
cured an investigation into the state of the jail. The
rules had been drawn up and signed by the Magis-
trates, and were conformable to the rules of the other
jails. It was some time before they received the ap-
probation of the Judges. They had been, however,
signed by Mr. Baron Graham and Mr. Justice
Best. A representation had been made that a Mrs.
Vince had sought to be admitted, but from the cha-
racter of that person it was judged proper no: to
grant her admission.
Sir ISAAC COFFIN said, that he would not have
borne testimony to.the correctness of the Jail of Il-
chester, if he had known thumb-screws were used init.
Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE said that all com-
plaints which they had heard of Ilchester Jail arose
since Mr. Hunt was confined there. He knew the
Magistrates were incapable of such conduct as was
ascribed to them. They were most worthy men. He
would reserve himself until he should know what
measure was intended to be founded on the Petition.

Mr. HOBHOUSE expressed his astonishment at
the reason assigned by the lion. Member for the
county for excluding persons who required admis-
sion to individuals confined in the prison. Mrs. Vince
was to be excluded because she was a person of an
improper character; but was the son excluded for
that reason? Ought he to be shut out from seeing
his father ? Although he was not a person to en-
courage immorality, yet he would contend that she
also should be admitted. The Hon. Gentleman ad-
verted to the case of a .prisoner who was confined
four years and a half. Never, since the time of
Charles the First, was so long a period of imprison-
ment
assigned to any prisoner. But it was said three
had now elapsed, and no one came forward during
that time to state those grievances. That was the
very reason why they should attend to the present
Petition—(/feer, hear).—lt was never too late for a
Member of Parliament, in his place in that House,
to bring forward a claim for the redress of grievances
—(Hear, hear).—Those gi ievances ought to be made
the subject of pet petual complaint, until redress could
be obtained ; not in that place, indeed, for little good
could be expected from statements of grievances in
' that House, but they ought to go forth to the coun-
try. He did not, indeed, know whether it was com-
petent for them to make an order; but some resolu-
tion ought to be adorted, in order to admit his fa-
mily to Mr. Hunt. The sentence passed on him had
been repeatedly complained of, and as long as he
had a tongue, he would say that it was a most severe
and unwarranted sentence.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he could not
suffer such harsh charges to pass unnoticed. The
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. liobhouse) complained of the
severity of a long imprisonment in a case to which
he alluded. No one could mistake the case to which
the Hon. Member alluded: it was the case of Car-
lile, who was found guilty and sentenced, not for one
offence, or for one crime, but for a succession of li-
bels. That pet son suffered for his repeated and
daring violations of dtt law ; and it was for him the
Hon. Gentleman complained. The Hon. Baronet
and his Hon. ColleNteetthe Members far Westmin-
ster), and the Hon. ber for Shrewsbury, com-
plained of the severity of Mr. Hunt's sentence. He,
hoWever, would say, that a more impartial trial had
never been known than that at which he (Mr. Hunt)
was found guilty. He was tried by a duty, of
every one of whom he himself approved : he was tried
in a county chosen by himself, and to which he him-
)elf had the venue changed, by an application to the

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other side unitht think other:
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—ant, and the country went along with them is
that opinion. He thought it sacessery to ally se
much in defence of the Judges of the ding's Bette
With respect to the rules of the prises, which formai
the subject of complaint, they were male for the*
generally, and not fir Mr. Hant particularly. The,
went through the usual forms, and were subanusi
to the Judges, and approved by them. It was ea
fair in general charges to attack the Judges. At th.re
rate, no one could be found to administer justice is
the country—(Hear, hear).
Mr. HOBEIOUSE wished to explain. The Hon.
and Learned Gentleman (the Attorney• General) raid
that he meant Carlile's sentence. He well knew why
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman made that iniosa.
tion, and he might, on another occasion, have an op.
portunity of answering him (Hear, hear).—He could
assure the House he did not mean Carlile: he alluded
to another sentence, and did not know the name If
the person, but the sentence he had on paper, and it
was imprisonment for four years and a half.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL explained, and said
that in consequence of the Hon. Gentleman net
naming the person to whose sentence he called the
attention of the House, he tusk it. for granted he
meant the sentence passed on Carlile. He could say,
upon his honour, that he had no intention of con-
necting the Hon. Gentleman with Carlile.
The Petition was then brought up, read, and or-
dered to be laid on the table.
Mr. Alderman WOOD observed. that be bad lately met
Mr. Hardie, who was connected with the Jail of lichefer. He
was acquainted with him in consequence of having knows hien
is Newgate, in the City. He inquired into the conduct of tir.
Hunt, and Mr. Hardie did not seem to have any complaint to
make. It was on this account that he was surprised Mr. Hunt
was accused of violating the rules of the prison. The worthy
Alderman then moved that the Petition be printed.—Ordeeed.

On the motion of Lord A. Hasamms, a link was directed to
Argykshire for the return of a Member to Parliament in the
room of Lord John Campbell.
Lord A. HAMILTON moved for copies of certain Papers
connected with Scotland; and gave entice, that on Wednesday
nest he would move for leave to bring in a Bill for abolishing
the inferior Commissary Courts in Scotland.
Mr. WILLIAM SMITH moved that there be laid before
the House as account of the Extents in Aid issued from dos
Court of Exclosiner during the last year.
Mr. LITTLETON moved for as account of all sums ex-
pended on account of the Spanish and Portuguese Slave Trade.
Mr. LUSIIINGTON gave notice that be would on Tuesd.y
next move for leave to bring in a Bill to consolidate the Laws
respecting the Slave Trade.
Mr. BERNAL seeing a Noble Lord (Londonderry) in his
place, wished to know if he was prepared to give the [louse any
information with respect to the Russian Tariff—whether Russia
was disposed to grant a remission of the duties on goods e
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he would be Mil
prepared on a future day to inform the House on that subject.

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IRISH INSURRECTION BILL •
The Marqitis of LONDONDERRY moved4he
Order of the Day for the Conimittee on the Irish
Insurrection Act.
Sir J. NEW PORT said, that he understood frets%
the Noble L Id that the Lord-Lieutenant had called
for the Insurrection Act without modification. From
the confidence he placed in the Lord-Lieutenant, he
was diSI,OSed to withdraw his opposition ; and on the
revonsibilitv of the Lord-Lieutenant he was willing
to grant what was claimed, though he still thought
the renewal of that Act was not adapted to the exi-
gency of the case.
Mr. DAWSON repeated the statement he had made
on a former evening, as to the conduct of the late
Chief Secretary for Ireland.
Lord FOLKSIONE began by stating, that he
felt himself imperiously called upon to enter his pro-
test most strongly
against the adoption of the mea-
sures proposed by the Noble Marquis. There was, in
fact, no evidence whatever to warrant the adoption
of sucli ertranrdinary measures. To find, then, that
no less than 190 Gentlemen had voted last night for
the passing of these measures, without any evidence
to show that they were necessary, had, he must say,
served to fill his mind with.surprise, horror, and dis-
,wr •• that so many Gentlemen could be found thus
2,
to •urt ender to Ministers the liberties of Ireland, must
be matter of surprise with every man in the Empire
who had any regard for public freedom ; for these
measures involved a sacrifice of the very bulwark of
liberty ; and what must the Public think of those Mi-
nister,. and their adherents, who would thus treat the
eonsritntional privileges of the people? (Wear, hear).
Ho:. Friend of his had observed that he would
vtv for the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act
as well as for the Insurrection Act, because truly
t.,e would not divide his support of Ministers upon
s;lch an occasion. The people of Ireland could eel.•
t.iinly not feel it their duty to thank his Honourable
Friend for his resolution, although, no doubt, he
.4..2s right in forming that resolution according to
h:s ot.n feelings. But the reason of his Right Hon.
F, iend near him (Sir J.Newport), for acceding to these
measures, was, he must say, quite as singular as that
advanced by his Hon. Friend under the gallery ; for
leis Hight Hon. Friend had stated that he agreed to
these measures merely in consequence of his reliance
upon the character of Lord Wellesley. There was,
however, no authority for believing that Lord Wel-
lesley called for these measures. For his own part,
he had no hesitation in stating, that he did not be-
lieve the Noble Marquis had made any such requisi-
tion to Ministers. If Ministers had any proofs of such
requisition, they would of course have been most
ready to produce them for their own sake, and for
the satisfaction of the House. In the absence of those
profs, then, he felt himself warranted in concluding
against the statement that Marquis Wellesley re-
quired any such extraordinary powers. Marquis
Wellesley was notoriously a man of very active, ar-
dent, and vigorous mind, and as he could not join in
the idle compliments paid to that Nobleman, he
'Lord Wellesley) was, in 'his opinion, more likely to
require the possession of despotic power. But minds
constituted like those of Lord Wellesley, were :ne-
utrally anxious for the possession of despotic power,
an that was a strong reason with him fot refusing
the despotic power with which it was proposed by
these measures to invest Lord Wellesley. He had
had occasion to examine the disposition and conduct
of this Noble Lord, and the result of that examination
was a thorough conviction that he was one of the last
persons to whom despotic power ought to be granted.
His conviction was principally founded upon the
proceedings of the Noble Marquis in India, where he
used the arbitrary power with which he was invested
in the most arbitrary manner, towards every Prince
and State which he could contrive to bring under his
subjection. The conduct, indeed, which he pursued
towards the Nabob of Oude, the Peishwa, and others
whom he subjugated, could never be forgotten,
marked, as that conduct was, by peculiar injustice and
cruelty. But all the proceedings of the Noble Mar-
quis in India were quite of a piece with, if not more
aggravated, than the conduct of Bonaparte in Europe.
Therefore, he felt the strongest objection to invest this
Noble Lord with anything like despotic power, al-
though the Noble Lord might have particularly re-
gaited it, believing, perhaps, that the possession of
despotic power might enable him to close his career
with the same splendour of false eclat which hap-
pened to accompany his proceedings in India. From
a recollection of those proceedings, however, he con-
ceivcd it his duty to oppose these measures, and there-
fore the authority of Lord Wellesley for these mea-
sures altogether failed, in his judgment. The Noble
Lord had stated, that the Bill had been drawn up by
a Learned Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett), who bad fre-
quently voted with Gentlemen on his (Lord Folk-
stone's) side of the House. But he must 'recollect,
that that Learned Gentleman had supported the six
Acts of the Noble Lord. He protested against both
the Bills, but particularly that for the Suspension of
the Habeas Corpus Act—(l-lear).
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that the
declaration of a Minister upon his responsibility was
entitled to the confidence of the House. The Noble
Lord had often differed from Gentlemen who sat on
the same side of the House, and, on the present occa-
sion, he seemed to have risen not so much for oppose
ing the Bills as for attacking the conduct of Marquis
Wellesley. The Noble Lord bad formerly assisted in
preferring charges against the Marquis Wellesley,
which had afterwards been declared .by that House
to be wholly unfounded. The Noble Lord was the
first who had ever coupled cruelty with the name of
Marquis Wellesley. The Martial Law Bill had been
formerly applied to the whole of Ireland, and was, in
fact, a suspension of the Habeas Corpus, but under
military law. But it was only certain parts of the
country that now demanded coercion, and the whole'
was nct to be visited by martial law. He had never
stated that the Habeas Corpus Suspension was not
applicable to the present state of Ireland.
Dr. LUSHINGTON did not believe that the exi-
gency required these laws, or that they could by possibility pro-
duce the effects which the Noble Marquis contemplated. is dee
Papers he found outrages, but the Insurrection Act was the very
law which ought not to be applied to their suppression. The
remedy ought to be a Commission sitting in• Cork, in Limerick,
in Iralee, to try men u fast as ntilitary forces could bring them
in ; and tor this purpose let there be a suMcient military force
provided. It was not in the power of man to exercise a sound
discretion in every individual cue. Ile would mention an in-
stance in which the Noble Marquis opposite signed-a warrant,
without knowing anything of the indiriduil:—A warrant had
bs.ii obtained against a Gentleman of the Ikon= Catholic tell-

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tinn, and at the Met Amity: He had never quitted Ms bean.
but his son, bearing that ti vrarrene was issued, hurried to Dub-
linax= to nem cybethee k en'. In ,he Moe helves Mill it was
intiondbla• Ila • that theniWai a *arrant
against hie father, M WAS
id ni . lon at tin Oboesbe
found* was ea, ontthit was tamed. He aßintrards
arrived at his hap& bane_ jai to doe_ to prevemateimentdon
—Btaadhfah at innehear, bed been oared took with the Me.
ghtrates in the mat, of Wasik* ; his crime whasinal hi,
person was known
allowed to be at lai yet none dared to apprehend !Pa
lame till the Member for Limerick. npb
prehended, convicted, and esceuted. How then, mold they
confer the proposed powers upon such Magistrates ?- to Oh,!
said the Noble Marquis, 0 I have a palliative for all ; I have
taken away the Jury, but I have sent down a King's Serjease.
whine independence ensure. that none will be transported veils
does not deserve hi" He knew not what an.klit lletimilt
was, for he indium sent one : but he knew Serials in kir
had, mod lie‘wevid rather trust his life to any Jisr/ebitr=
ern Is ow ilia theta; not because he doubted
a, integrity, hit began they bed a political btu, ad beirosil
dray knew Maki" limy were active—no master, Ike en
Mt hansom abould have been weni
Moly to tidN
e protection and the panes*, riche
nunit-gthae, hear, from the Mtnisterialbeddies). He had bet
one were mere to add—he would ask the -Noble Maroon
whether the Narvik Wellesley bad asked for those Mils whole
and entire? or whether, if modUled by some chum, as to tbo
intervention of Juries, the dame beneficial molts would not fed.
low, as its supporters expected from in adoption ?
Mr. LOCKHART supported the modes. There were some
defects In Ireland, and a mercurial dimmed.. to violence. The
system of intimidation made trial by Joey MespedisoL .
Mr. SPRING RICE admitted the of the evil, but,
the Suspension all was not at all. to it. The Insar-:
realm An, If modified, might be a remedy. If no Jury
could be bug t• sot, be would have voted for the ail as It
was. Bit Justin bad acted and dem their duty at Limed*.
Onakerad the Winging op of the Ripen, be would mikes a few
ons.

Mr. CA LCR AFT had the pain of differing from many of Ms
fries* on the present occasion. He did not like the Suspension
of the Habeas Corpus Act; but be still less liked rebellion—
(Hear, hear).—He thought the proposed measures the best cal-
culated to meet the ea, and they were undoubtedly far prefer-
able to martial law.

Mr. HUTCHINSON wished to give the Irish Government
those powers which might be necessary to put down the disturb-
ances in Ireland, but he did not think a case made out for sus-
pending the Habeas Corpus Act, or for passing the other measure
now proposed to Parliament by his Majesty's Ministers.
Colonel DAVIRS spoke briefly in favour of the Bill, which
he thought necessary; but he was at the same time ansiqps that
a full investigation should take place into the state of Ireland.
The question for going into a Committee on the Bill was now
put and agreed to.
The &saw having left the Chair, the Bill was committed,
and the various classes put and carried. The House then re-
sumed. The Report of the Committee was brought up, read, and
agreed to.—On the question that the Bill be engrossed,
Mr. S. RICE said be would take that opportunity of moving
the Amendments to which he had previously alluded. He then
moved that the words of the Bill, " shall proceed without any-
Grand Jury, and without any Bill being found," should be
omitted.—This was put and negatived.
He then moved that the following words be also left out of
the MI, a In ouch case where conviction or judgment, or ac-
quittal, shall be had without the verdict of any Petty Jury, it
shall stand good, as if the Grand Jury bad found a bill, and a
Petty Jury had pronounced upon it. propositon was also
put and negatived.
The Hon. Member next moved the omission of certain other
words of the Bill, but the modun was, like the precußng ones,

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negatived. _ -
He then moved a clause which went to afford additional faci-
!ides for persons accused to give bail, and to obviate those incon-
veniences which might be sustained by individuals from being
compelled to wait from time to time for the bolding of the
Court of Sessions, by enabling a King's Berjeant or King's
Counsel to receive bail.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY defended the Bill as it
stood. He saw no reason for annulling the powers of the Courts
of Sessions, but they should sit from day to day to receive ball.
Mr. S. RICE considered his Amendment to be necessary, as
the Courts of Sessions in Ireland suffered days and weeks, and
sometimes even a mooch, to intervene between their sittings.
The addition which he had proposed could do no harm, but
might do good; and therefore he hoped the Noble Marquis would
not persevere in his opposition.—The House divided:
For the Motion.
Against it. 199
Majority —lO9
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
When strangers were re-admitted, the Susanna was putting
the question that the House should go into a Committee on the
Habeas Corpus Suspension Bill. On this the House divided,
when the numbers were :
For going into the Committee.. 127
Against it...
Majority
When strangers had been re-admitted,
The Bill having been through the Committee,
Mr. BROG DEN brought up the Report, which was re-
ceived, and agreed to.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved that the Bill
i should he read a third time.
Sir F. BURDETT wished to know in what way it was pro-
posed to indemnify those who acted under this Bill?
Mr. DEN MAN said, the first Bill contained an indemnity
which should not be given to any set of men, and that was a
fact little known to most Members. As he had not had an op-
portunity of delivering his sentiments on these measures, in his
opinion, the horrible outrages in Ireland ought to be instantly
put down ; but he was of opinion, that no grounds had been
laid for doing away the blessings of the trial by Jury.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL defended the Bill, and said
the state of Ireland was such as to demand strong measures.
The House then divided on the third reading of the Habeas
Corpus Suspension Bill—
Ayes 109
Noes 27
Majority —92
The Bill then passed without a division —Adipurned at Half-
past Twelve o'Clock, to Monday.
It is no exaggeration to state, that the number of
fatal accidents of children have been diminished this
winter by the general introduction into schools and
families, of PeThant's London Primer, and First or
Mother's Catechism. These little Books are the
cheapest and completest Elementary Bcoks in the
language, and by introducing Engravings of the
accidents to which young children are liable, with
suitable asinaonitions, the amiable Authoress has ren-
dered a service to the rising generation above all price.
The Literary Gazette of this day contains—
• Review and copious Extracts from Campbell the Missionary's
Nand Journey into South Africa—Account of a New Nation,
of their Capital, vice. Etc.—Review of the Widow's Tale, a
Poem—Dr. Hibbert's Shetland Isles--The curious popular
Superstitions respecting Mermen and Merwonsen, and Tales of
their intercourse with-Human Beings—Titaingh's Japan : parti-
culars of the great Festivals.—Under the second head of Original
branwill be found a remarkable Correspondence of Sir
Joshes Reynolds, Mrs. Seddon, Mr. Sheridan, and Mr. Green,
the lbsissors, as the subject of the Picture of the Tragic Muse
./..J1 gumbo Narrative of the early Lives and Loves of the Lap-
Wiens now exhibiting at the Egyptian Hall—Etymological Ex.
tracts, with learned and humorous Illustrations.—ln &Mew
a notice of the Unicorn —Lectures on Botany, by Mr. Rani.
In the Fine Arts, Critique on the local Landscapes in the LW.
doh Gallery, and on the admirable exhibition of Drawings in
a ware, vice.—Chiginal Poetry, by distinguished and many.
mtilem•—The Acre of Landon, No. 4.—View of the House
of Lords on Tuesday, and the contrast between the British Par-
liament and a Peetso or Meeting of the great Captains at Ear-
rechemane, in the heart of Africa, whose Speeches, Dames, Ste.
are fully reported.—The Drorna—" Penny Criticiem."--Irarit-
aea.—Literery Nuticee—and, if the page pennhs, an interesting
Description of a Sunday in England, by an mama Herman
Traveller,

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will please to give their Orders early to any News-vender or
Bookseller, to prevent disappointment, as only a limited addi-
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EVENING

LONDON.
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 9, 1822.
STOOK EXCHANGE, TEN O'CLOCK.
The Market opened this morning at 7164. wide little &mime'
transients,, but a etas*" Market at the *awe peke. i
ELEVEN O'CLOCK.
At this moment there I. a great deal of irsubsess trap in
the S per coats. which are 106 e. Comae remain steady, out
much Eactuntion, art 77i f.
ONE O'CLOCK.
The Public ode continue to sea oat t of the S per cents. ad
are now purchasing Long Annuities, which have advanced me.
Menial, viz. 20. The Market still continual to wear an unfa-
vourable and vacillating appearance. Connie have, however,
improved this morning a little, and are now at rff for the
Account. Various reports are in circulation, be le, that Go-
vernment has received dispatches from the Russian Court, but
the reports as to the nature of their contents are vadeserving of
credit; another is, that Austria, Russia, and Prussia have re-
fused to receive the Ambassadon from Portugal appointed to
those Courts. A wealthy man is reported to have said out a
considerable sum, and embarked in an extensive spooned= la
tallow,which is at this time sas.—Corrent /nicest
Bank Stock 242 —3 per Cent. Reduced 773/4 3/4

per Ct. Cons. 77 771/2-31/2 per Cent.
4 per Cent. 98 97%-5 per Cent. 1061/2 54 1/2
Bank Long Annuities 19% 20
India Bonds 795. 78s. pre.
Exchequer Bill; of £l,OOO, 51. 71. pre.
Do. small 7s. 10s. pr.--Cons. for Aect.77% 1/2 1/2 M.
4M••••••••=1

Lisbon Papers to the 26th ult. reached us this fore..
noon. Signor JoitQum MONTRIRO Tomtits, Secre•
tart' of State for the Naval Department, has resigned
his situation, on account of his age and ill health.
Vice-Admiral QuttcraLLA is appointed Secretary of
State for the Affairs of the Marine.

The Cortes had been engaged in debating on the
Wine Company of the Alto Douro, and in discussing
some Articles of the Constitution.

In the Sitting of the 24th January the institution
of the Jury was debated, or rather the question " if
there should be any appeal (recurso) from the decision
of the Juries, and, if there should, in what manner?"
An animated debate arose on this question, in which
frequent reference was made to the legislation of
England and America, and the following principle
WAS then put to the vote and approved :—" There
shall be a species of appeal from the decisions of the
Juries to the Superior Tribunal, only for the purpose
of referring back the examination and decision of
the
cause to the same or a new Jury, in cases expressly
to be determined by the law."

By an express, bringing advice' from Paris, dated
Wednesday evening, eight o'clock, we learn that the
new restrictive law on the press has passed the Cham-
ber of Deputies. At about six o'clock on that day,
the Chamber divided on the law, when there appeared,
For the law - - 234
Against it - - 93
Majority -..- _ -141

The French Papers of Wednesday contain the de-
bate on this law in the Chamber on the preceding
day. The 17th article gave rise to i long debate on
the relative fitness of the French Juries and Coors
Royaks to decide on questions of libel. This article,
as well as the 18th, was strongly resisted by the left
side.—When the Parainatcr proceeded, in the usual
manner, to put the first paragraph of the law to the
vote, a very extraordinary scene of confusion oc-
curred : several of the Members of the left side de-
clared their intention not to vote. We give the ex-
pressions as they occur, with the description of the
French journalist:
M. Baswas Courrawr.—We protest, in the face of France,
at which we are the Representatives.
U. Dnu►acar.—We will not vote.
Coacsu.ss.—lt is an infamous law. •
N. Kaaavar.—We will not be accomplices in the destruction
of all our liberties.

Here the greatest disorder ensued in the Chamber. Almost
all the extreme left rose with a menacing air; the right, the
centre, and the left centre, remaining passive.
M. de Gutoanzo--Ydur majority has covered itself with
disgrace.
Some Members of the left side addressed violent apostrophes
to the Ministers. _ . .

H. ail-113-011----R-Pinuutii..-The Slinisttiv do not even deign to

explain.
M. de la Faverre pronounced very distinctly these words--
which we arc quite sure (says the French Reporter) that we
heard distinctly :—" We protest, and we appeal from this pro-
ceeding to the energy of the French People.
de Gviallionv--We all make the same protestation.
The disorder was now at its height; but the right side re.
mined calm and anent. The Pamperer then put the question
to the vote. An the right, the right centre, and the centre,
properly so called, rose simultaneously amidst cries of Vine k
Rai. The extreme left, more and more agitated, took no part
in the proceeding. New cries of Viva k Roi arose as the Pas-
sau= announced the adoption of the Stet h.
M. de Gaammosiv—Proceed as you think proper ; there is no
longer a Chamber; vote also the rest of the law, if agreeable to you.
An amendment of M. Bonus: was next put to the vote, and
was met lax exclamations from the left of " We are no longer a
'Chamber.
M.Kutavai—TheChamber is no more : the Charter is no more!
The Pazatom having entreated them to preserve silence .toe
discussion continued.
M. Cannata Puma said—" We have not thought proper
to vote; we considered that it was our duty not to give the
assistance of our co-operation to a law whose only tendency is
to put power into the hands of the Aristocracy."—(Long shouts
of " Bravo !" from the left.)
The Kama of the Sim.' then addressed the Chamber, but
was, as usual, treated with great disrespect. As an instance of
their mode of treating him, it is menthoed, that the louder he
speaks (and his voice is remarkable foe its sonorousness), they
call out to him from all aides—" Speak louder—we cannot hear
you!" The discussion adjourned to the next day.
The foreign intelligence in the French Papers is scanty and
uninteresting.
French Funds.—Five per Cents. Toesday, SW. 40c. On
Wednesday they opened at BW. 30c. soon rose to SW. 4k. but
afterwards declined to SOL ilfte.

Charleston Papers arrived this morning to the Sth
January, from which the following is an extract :
Two or three brigs have recently put into the Ha-
vannah, in consequence of the loss of their Captains
and part of their crews with sickness, coming from
Jamaica. We are gratified to learn that the British
ships of war in the West Indies are at last following
the laudable example set them by the United States
cruisers. A piratical schooner has been brought into
Turk's Island ; and a British man of war arrived there
the same day, having on board in irons SO privateers-
men, whom she had taken a short time previously.

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DURUM 1111111 WARY 7.
The Colossi Oisvonsammt condset the prose-
eudatte at the Cominblian Serialist Lefroy,
Mews. Odd, sia, eisnikolts and woo.
Time have been seam thwasteaki moths posted at diffnent
plass in the County; one, of width the fellowleg is a copy, was
pasted on a barn pte beirseging to a sue namid Pat. Toole ; it
was toes down by the Rev.-16. Keenan, part' Prime :
• NOTICE TO JOHN ROURKE.
44 That if he does net, against the Ist of February, lag, pay
amassfourtompenet a day, employ them. as Is usual, from
sir in the marshy led di is the sight, sod also to tiff that
mossier, Natty, out of his empioyasest, that his concerns will
be hunsed. It is rospissted that Mr. Pat. Toole shall oet tear
this nodes down, as he did before, or any ether t=l if they
de, let them abide iloseemeqeenes.-Bigned by
Jaa: le, lies. a Capt. ROCK." •
The marder d Major Hare has struck terror into the minis
of the Omen is Limerick, and ha many instances, inlbrmatiou
being reenlend of intended attacks by the banditti, the Gentle-
slim have ithemlosed their houses, and sought protection in the
villages *lsere troops are stationed. Thomas Furlong, Esq. of
&shoos, from this cause, of removing his family
toa =de, hairpespered to convey his furniture to that place,
but be.offered large stmt of money to the inhabitants in
the im and kr their agleam* in the removal of it, net
OOP of the, with the ucepdon of same of his own tenants,
would gim Mat my help whatever. He was therefore obliged to
,leave part Ohio prepnty to the house which he abandoned.
In the musty of Waterford, an affray has taken place between
a party of , smiler the seders of Mr. Mamma, the Sub-
Merl., and the sod one man is supposed to have
been mortar ummiled.
In the assessty of ILlthenny, the banditti seem to be making
frightful progress. On Friday evade', one party attacked eight
homes, from which they obtained twelve stand of arms. The
party, about seven o'clock, passed through Windgap, towards
the e of Tipperary.
From we learn that the Insurgents in that (palter,
trusting to dish: imaginary strength, have taken up defensible
positions. The troops, however. were preparing to dislodge
them, and nom cam doubt the issue.

It is said. Mat in a pan of the county of Cork, hitherto peace-
able, the peasantry assembled for the purpose of seizing two
Gentlemen as hostages for the enlargement of the prisoners now
in jail. Their scheme, if true, was defeated by those individuals
returning home in a direction different from that eipected. The
house of Mr. Purcell, of Akandra, was attacked on 'Thursday
last, and muck injury done to ounellices.

CORK.

Saturday last, the city of Cork was considerably alarmed by
a repot that the insurgents were to *attack that place before the
ensuing Ong: preparations were accordingly made for re•
slstance, and the shipping were ordered to lie on the City side
of the river, to prevent the possibility of the peasantry gaining
any entrance into the town otherwise than along the bridge,
which was strongly guarded.