Star.
London, England, 1830-11-03 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Nov. 2.

The SPEAKER took the Chair soon after one o'clock, and con.
tinned swearing in Members till a quarter-past two, when the house
was summoned to attend at the bar of the House of Lords to
hear his Majesty deliver the Speech from the Throne. The Chair
was resumed at three, and the swearing in of Members continued
till four.

A bill for more effectually preventing clandestine outlawries was then
read a first time.

Mr. BROUGHAM gave notice, that on that day fortnight he
would bring forward a motion on the subject of Parliamentary Reform.
The SPEAKER having read a copy of the Speech,
Lord OKIAISTONE rose to propose the Address. He begged to
assure the house, that nothing but a conviction that he would meet with
their kind indulgence, could have induced him to rise on that occasion.
He would briefly allude to the various topics contained in the Royal
speech. The house could not but be struck with the confidence with
which his Majesty, at a most eventful period, had drawn their attention
to the subject of a Regency ; the house would, he was persuaded, show
that that confidence was not misplaced. In alluding to foreign states,
he must observe on the cents that had occurred in France ; with a king
elected by the people, that nation still remained in an unsettled state,
which must be highly injurious, in particular to the commercial in.
tercets of this country. The same spirit of revolution had seised on
the Belgian states, and had entailed on them greater harass ; it
was to be hoped that the Allied Powers would, as shortly as pos-
sible, be enabled to arrange the existing differences. (Hear, hear.)
—lt was gratifying to see that, notwithstanding these events,
this country had maintained uninterrupted good understand-
ing with all foreign States, and had remained free from the
storms which seemed to be bursting on every other nation ; if these
were ever to reach this country, he felt assured that the measures
adopted by Government, the system of retrenchment they were purr!).
big, a retrenchment called for by the people—(hear)—demanded by the
state of foreign events, would best enable us to encounter them.
lie had now glanced over the most important topics; leaving a
more profound discussion to abler debaters, he would merely add,
that he was glad that the conduct of Ministers enabled him to give
them his most decided support, determined as they were to up.
hold the liberty of the people, the safety of the church, and the
dignity of the nation. In conclusion, his lordship called upon the
house to return their solemn thanks to his Majesty for his most gracious
Speech, and read an address, which lie proposed should be presented
to the King.
The lion. R. DUNDAS seconded the motion. He rose, he said,
with some hesitation, to address the House on subjects of so much im-
portance, at a time when the opening of the Parliament was looked to,
both by the people of this country and by foreign nations, with more
than ordinary interest. lie would not enter into any lengthened detail
on the topics contained in his Majesty's Speech, as his wish was to avoid
a debate, and that the House should unanimously agree to the address
which had been proposed. It was to his Majesty, and, he trusted, it was
to that House a subject of regret. that the bond of union which existed
between his Majesty and his people had not likewise existed in other
states. He should not allude to the events which had driven Charles X. from
a throne occupied by a long line of ancentors ; without inquiring whether
the fault which led to that event, lay with that King, or with his minis.
ters, that bowie, lie watt persuaded, regretted that an event should have
occurred in a country in strict alliance with our own, and capable of
exposing it to a long period of anarchy. It was, however, a subject of
congratulation, that the illustrious Prince who now occupied the throne
of France, should show hiontelctlisposed to preserve with this country
those relations of peace and amity which it was the interest of both ne.
tieing to keep up. With respect to the distressing events which had oc-
curred in die Netherlands, the occurrence of which the recollection of
past calamities should have prevented, it was gratifying at least to know
that no spirit of jealousy existed between the great powers of Europe to
lead theni to take advantage of those calamities, and that they were de-
termined to respect the treaties of 1815. With reference to Portugal,
his Majesty gave them every assurance that our diplomatic relations with
that country would soon be renewed, the individual invested with the
sovereign power being disposed to grant a general amnesty ; it was to
be hoped that he would now at least ute,erve the laws of the coon.
try. It was not for that house to dictate to other nations by what
Princes, or in what manner thee chalet to be governed—(heer, heat.)
And the same policy which had 1.11 us to acknowledge the King of
the French, 'Mould lend us to acknowledge Don 31h,Nel. Ni al.
lusion had been made in the Spec,' to the affuire of Greece; but I
he could assure the House that any delay which had taker, place in
the settlement of those affairs, was owing not to any rentisenvot on
the part of England, hut to the circumstance Out that tatticinent
could not be prosecuted without the co-operation of France, one of
the three contracting power's. He would now allude to our do-
mestic affairs- The seed* of civil dissension had not been suc-
cessfully sown in a country which, under its present constitu-
tion, had enjoyed for nearly 150 years a state of uninterrupted
prosperity. That any dissensions should exist was owing less to that
constitution than to die depravity of human nature ; to the depravity
of certain individuals, who had wickedness enough to contrive mischief,
and not courage enough to execute it (heat). We had another safeguard
besides our constitution, an enlightened and intelligent people ; he
looked also with confidence in critical times to his majesty's govern-
ment. With respect to the civil list, the proposed measures, he was
persuaded, when laid before the house would meet with general appro.
button. To the settlement of the Regency be would not pankularly
allude, as it would form the subject of a separate message from his
majesty. The honourable member then congratulated the boast on the
diminution of distress among the manufacturing classes. He thanked
them fee the indulgence with which be bad been Hama to, and conclud-
ed by bqiging to second the address (bear, hear.)
Lord ALTHORPS was indistinctly beard from the gallery. H.
alluded to the different points of the speech horn the throne, and bristly
commented twee& The part that promised attention to economy In
the asks of the state be hoped would be realised, and that the country
would not be disappointed. He felt grateful to his Majesty for the sea.
*Dents be had expressed regarding the civil list; but however de•ie.w.

ble ecnnomy might be, be (Lord Altborpe) was confident the, every
care would be takes to preserve the comforts of the Monarch ; and when
the question came before parliament for discussion, it would meet with
all prop,- regard to the dignity of the crown. The regeLey semen it
was not at present a lit time to advert to ; b- would defer Et) remarks
on that subject until the question was brought forwa:d in the h. ea—.
Tile honourable gentl,man who spoke last had expressed regrt t a, the
lan changes which kid taken place in France, and that a people shoti'd
ever infringe ußei iii liberties of their government; but he (Lora A.)
was of a very ditlerent. epinion ; the conduct of the people of Frame had
his coecurrence. anal he thought that ministers woo had acted es the
French cabinet had acted ought to suffer for their conduct. lie was
sorry that it had been deemed advisable that hie :lap:sty ought to in-
terfere with ire Netherlands—it would he attet..!eti with knots*
consequences; and lie (Lord Althntpe) regretted that it should
have been brought forward. He would protest against any interference
on the part of ties country in the domestic economy of the Netherhooda.
He likewise did not agve with the hon. gent. who spoke last in his
opinion on the affairs of Porters: 1; he (Lord Altnorpe) thong::; the.: we
ought not to interfere with the de tact) Government of Pcrtugal„ 11- d.d
not believe titattliscontent esisteii at home to the alarming rateta that
was rep:Tome by many, but he was sensible that the country was in
such a sate as to require the greatest care. He had no connderc in his
.Majesty's ministers; hut he would watch their measures, :sod it any
brought forward any of which he approved, they should have his so ;;...
11 port but, teeeling as he did, lie would not be sorry at any iiimion mat
might tend to depose them. The strictest economy was necessary for
the country in the present state; and the taxes ought to be levied so as
to press in the lightest possible degree upon those wh $ had Mein to
pay. (Hear, hear.) The most imp...l-tut topic was the question of
reform.—(Hear.) It would have been better had this been brought
forward sooner: but he did not altogether regret that it had still been
deterred, because it had allowed the oplnioos of the country to gain
strength by accumu!ation. and made ti:c necessity no:re apparem.
few points to which he alluded were r.ot all he would be inclined to
notice; but in the accomplish:went even of them touch good migl:t
be done.

Mr. DUNDAS rose and explained.
Marquis of !IIJANDFORD could scantly he heard from tl.e Ea;/..y
when he rose to metre anierdnie:t to the address. He took an ample
review of the acts of t-e last Sessien of Parliament, and animadverted en
their consequences. He instanced the depression of currency and the
CAT' evovaitig depressions in the price of nierch..nelize. He deprecated
the pro.ecu ions brought by the At:other-General t:gainst the liberty o
the press—(near, hear)—and he adduced as a peer.: tor the result tif such
legislr•om that tee people, having now a lintite,l confidence in parl!s.
men', were m ire gent-ally addr.ssing his Mr..j.s:y directly. He (tl.e
Niarquis of Blantlford) was not speaking as one who could suffer in
soaps: by an indiscreet change of affairs: chat hr said was from a cu:i.
viction of the nmessity of a change of treasures, and lie had something
at stake w!icn he made this Tema: k. He therefore, mute as an
amendment to the addin

AMF.NnmENT.
'• In this its first a ldross to the throne t.f a stew instead
of making itself' the mere cc':o of the miu"slers of tlat crown, this
house &els that it 04114 to 'hew itself ti he the to-ry mirror of
vie pc ; and. that to do so. it must not fall to lay lief. re yaws
Majesty all their thoughts and fillings. all their wants aid wit.bes.
as well as all their loyalty to jour vifee, aid attacitiout to your
person.

" The discharge of this important duty, and the preset str•riso.s
aspect of public affairs, render it impossible. as well as improia r, to
address your :Majesty otherwise than at considerable length. (Al• Jog
" Your llajesty is to be informed that this House, in common wit!,
the great majority of your people, holds the memory of the House of
Commons of the last Parliament in utter hatred and cut mpt, to the
following reasons:
• " First, because the last House of Commons uniformly fume.:
deaf car to the just complaints and petitions of your pc.p u;
condly, because instead of acting upon the old constittitinm I Prim: 1.
of withholding the supplies until the grievances of the in tmle K, to 'c.
dressed, which it was earnestly and seriously urged to do. it seem :,1 t
consider itself of no other use, and chosen for no other purpose Inc
vote, sight after night, immense sums of money, to be drawn init.
the pockets of the people; exhibiting, at the same time, the utmos:
indifference, and often the most sovereign contempt of all consideratio:•
in what manner such enormous sums could be obtained without die risk
of involving the great productive interests of the country in the must
extensive embarrassment and ruin.

" That in proof of this, your Majesty has only to look at the u;..
precedented numbers of bankruptcies and insolvencies of fainters,
traders, and others of your honest and industrious subjects, throu3r
all the years of the existence of the last House of Commons; and year
Majesty will thereby be convinced that while great numbers of Lute...!
proprietors have been driven from their paternal mansions, and have
been compelled to see them occupied by loan-mongers and stock-
jobbers, while others have removed themselves, their families and their
fortunes, for ever from your shores ; and while the middle classes of
your subjects have been reduced with frightful rapidity to the la.
bouring classes, the labouring classes have been reduced to atoolitte
beggary and want. That numbers have actually &HA front star.
vation, and others have been obliged to submit to the most de-
grading services, and to see themselves and their families the vietio s
of fever, induced by famine—that thus. in a short time. instead of rul.
ing, like the two first Princes of the House of Brunswick, 'nit a natty
devoted to your Government by the happiness and blessings it shroAd
enjoy, your Majesty may find yourself ruling over a nation to pwuikr. a. d
of plaarnen, of those who live upon the taxes and the poor rites on th.:
one hand, and on the other hand of loanmongers and boroughttionger,
wallowing in the stagnant and unproductive accumulations of the:t
joint and several monopolies. Such, Sire, arc the effects of the occur-cif
and unnatural funding-system, in its last agonies ; and the vain a:.
tempts to save this monster in England, are at this moment overturn..
ing the Governments of other countries far more rapidly than the telly.
OT even the wickedness of their rulers. That the acts of the late
House of Commons, both of omission and commission, under which the
people of this once happy country have been brought to such a state art
wretchedness and suffering, inculpate all concerned in the highest de.
gree of criminality, from which nothing can excuse them but a sincere
and anodic confession of their sins, and a total and immediate altera-
tion of their conduct, without which it will be the duty of the house
to expose by name to your Majesty all those who are feeding uput.
the vitals of the country, as the only chance left, since the argument
has failed, of saving itself, and perhaps even the Throne of your Ma.
jesty, horn the storms of convulsion.
" That in order to obviate such complicated evils as arc ',mini:it-titre
set forth, it was the duty of the late House of Commons to have done
more, and to have talked less. ( Much laughing.)
" That that house was told, both within these walls and wirhoet
these walls, that the reason why it felt no sympathy for their suit: rings.
no anxiety for their relief, was because the majority of its no mit.. rs had
an interest directly opposite to the interests of the peorie 1:-at this ma-
jority was lint chosen, as of right and as it ought to wive been, by the
majority of the land-owners and householders of England; but was
nominated and appointed by a new individuals, who, partly by the effects
of time and accident, but still more by a b:rre.fue,tl pervasion of the
spirit and inmitin,: of our laws and constituion, had acquirill the lower
of selling, or otherwise disposing of, the scats in this house. in such
manner as best suit- d their own interests.

" That the late House of Commons was also repeatedly coaled upon.
entreated, and implored, to set about reforming such a titee:strou•ahuse.
hut that it uniformly refused to listen to suet' call ; and, though
sating, fluctuating, and changing, upon outer questions of vital cense-
quence to the country, upon this eitiestion sit refium it deterroesd to
follow the advice of one of i a own 31ei•sber,:, and one of its own 't. uspo.
rary, elective, D:ctatorx, dependent tiro, Its own corrupt and proq.tattel
votes,' which hes been truly calla) • the most odious of all forms id iv.
runny,' to oppose reform in every shape to the eml of i.s roblitiral .silt.
once ;' and, that, to the eterral disgrace tit tie last Muse of Common*,
it kept its profligate determination 411).m..tv1y to the Let. Hot. sour
Majesty may be assured, that if your Ilajes.y Intl not been ad
dissolve the last Parliament in the sueltlea atal unexpected 11.4 a. .r in
which it was dilueoleed, tile late gloraots events *hien in.ve taker. slime
in France would have had a oni:ll.y effect in shaking ;hie proffigat ele•
termination of the said Watt. tutu of ittehic.og it to consider the Miter-
ence between the guilt of bringing on death upon a nation by slow f oi-
son, or by a sudden blow t and that. by the law of England, there is
such a thing as treason aeainst the people as well as treason against the
King. Your Majesty may also he farther assured that, whel3 grids
bels Or the nobtley, being members of the Privy Co-incil, were chwged
in despite of the constant ravers of the Causal. with being traffickers
of the seats in th:s house, and that one of the friti's of such traffic wm—
I not an endowment of gtace', wisduut. and wale:standing.' but an undo..
went of snore than halt a tni!lion a.year of the public money am' nest
themselves; and that an.nlitr irlet was the patronage of the C 1 '5,
and the army and navy, and of the collection of about GO millions a.
year of taxes among the families, friends, till sit rtr.ddi tr f :!•e
master. or sea's in the MOW' of Contemns. If these things Lai fe,
seriously entisidettd, it is amt to be believed that the blood of En-
glishmen would rubs,' it to foe LI ever tainted with such rtisgre.ce,
but that there would have been a race among the sad masters find
the buyers and sellers of seats in Parliatr.ent, who should be
most in laying Mown up‘u the altar of Ms couLtly ui:t allowed
and most damn. d property, fir pow., of trafficking in the representa-
tion of the Commons of England. Your 3lajestty may consider it as the
firm conviction of the people- that if the last flutist of Commons had
done its duty. it ought upon every principle of justice, to have reduced
the taxes at least in the Fame propation that it rased the value
of the currency. and thus half the present amount of taxes
might and ought to hare been taken off, including the whole of thotruel
and harassing Excise Laws, and all those cheating indirect UM by
which every labouring man who tarns and expends thirty pauses year,
has eighteen pounds taken from hien. AU the just expenses of the
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'eminent and the interest of the debt might nave bees reduced, with
perfect equity, in the Name proporuon as the tame, and all the unjust
expenses of Government. in leaass and sinecure places—the diplomatic.
colonial, NA all other departmenta. kept up solely for the pawpaws M
oomeption, adepht sad would have been dose away with, Vibe last Hesse
of Commess hod bees the NM, and net the sham representatives of the
people. Ist the late attempt to decay the freedom eche prose anket
eludes be Fame, and themby the more dreolnally to td the penis of

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hat cow- try of t ; and pume.rty, never would have been made, if
the last House of l'oitotions had had the sense and honesty to have restos.
ed freedom of election to England ; that the King of France might still
h;tve been upon his throne, and all danger have been prevented from
the mischiefs of anarchy and confusion, which have only been
emietal by the unexample d wisdom of the brave and learned youth of
France. and the splendid forbearance of the brave and honest working
men of Paris, who did not hesitate to risk their lives, when they saw
nit et a syste m of tyranny and taxes was about to be fixed for ever on
tne!it, noel on their c',ileiren. And in reference to this affair, so im.
pot :,,nt in its consequences, too much praise and thanks cannot be given
to y ode- Majesty, for the honour you have conferred on England, whose
woos •sere heretofore famed as • ever first and foremost in the achieve.
rent of liberty,' in taking the lead, and setting the example of acknow-
ledging the new King of the French ; who, lite your Majesty, sits upon
Li throne, by the best and highest of all titles, that which is said to be'
the voice of lion himself—namely, the voice of the people. For this
great honour and service, it is the unanimous opinion of this house, of
the whole nation, not to say of all Europe. that this act may justly be
ascribed to the personal character of your Majesty, and to your own
sense of justice, and of the true interests of your subjects ; and your Ma.
jesty,fdeserves to enjoy the hope, that your name may be remembered by
millions still unborn, for the lasting blessings of peace and friendship be-
tween France and England,which this act of your Majesty has every pros.
I.ret of consolidating. And the Members of this, the first House of Com-
'none in the new Parliament, promise your Majesty, as it is fit they
stientlel, that, if others learn nothing by example, they will ; and as
they do nut doubt that a King, who has already given such proofs of
f.'s desire of being beloved by his people, and of promoting the wel-
fare and happiness of the industrious classes, that a King, who more
than 30 years ago, from his own mouth in Parliament denounced
• monopolies as the canker of the State, and called upon the Legislature
to root diem out,' will never endure to sec his people ruined, and his
Crown put in hazard by that worst of all monopolies—the monopoly of
the seats of the Mouse of Commons. So they implore your Majesty to
withdraw your confidence and the patronage of the Crown from all per-
sons engaged in, or resolved upon upholding this odious traffic, and
thereby implicating your Majesty in such connection. And, if in so
acing, your .Majesty, who as yet stands clear of this system, and above
all suspicion in the eyes of the country, should have to encounter a
factious opposition to your Government, or, if the usurping proprietors
of seats in the House of Commons should be so lost to every sense of
justice, and to their own interest, as to dare to set up their usurpation
against the ancient, just, and undoubted prerogatives of the Crown,
your Majesty may rely upon the sealons and determined support of this
flume, and of your people, even to the last drop of their blood.
" And your Majesty may be assured that nothing short of the complete
annihilation of this odious and unrighteous monopoly of seats in the
House of Commons will ever satisfy the just and unanswerable demands
of your people to be restored to their ancient laws and constitution, of
which they know they have been most wrongfully deprived by the cor-
ruption and prostitution of this house, within little more than the last
hundred years, which is but as yesterday in the history of laws of such
high antiquity, and such transcendent fame throughout the known
world. That, next to the disesteem in which the memory of the last
House of Commons is held by the people, for refusing to enter
upon the great question of Patliamentary reform, would be the
grievous disappointment and just indignation of the people, if
nothing more than the representation of a few large towns were
to he Oireftti them, while the great master grievance of a pro-
prietary interest and domination over seats in this House, should
be allowed to continue. And your Majesty may also rest 'seared that
the great majority of your people have no desire to alter the frame of
the government of King, Lash, and Commons, which has endured
so lung, and been productive of such advantages to the community
neither do they think it necessary or expedient to claim or demand any
new plan or scheme of Representation unknown and untried in the
history and practice of their ancestors ; but they will never cease to de-
envoi that, wherever, according to that history and practice, the right of
Representation has been bounded, there also shall be bounded the bur.
den of taxation."

The Address and the proposed Amendment were than reed from the
Chair.

'llie reading of the amendment elicited repeated shouts of laughter
!ruin all quarters.
Mr. O'CONNELL rose, and without offering any remark, seconded
the amendment.

The Speaker read the address and the amendment.
Mr. CURSET PELHAM rose, but he was nearly inaudible. We
understood him to animadvert particularly on the questions of re-
trenchment and reform, and to express a hope, that when these questions
came again before the House for discussion, they would be differently
ditposed of than they had been hitherto.
Mr. LONG WELLESLEY disapproved of the tenor of the speech
from the throne. He did not consider it such as a monarch should have
teen satisfied with ; and that the present parliament would lave stood
in much better odour with the country if the speech had net been put
into the mouth of his majesty. There was great distress in the coun-
try, and there could be no doubt that there was disaffection in the mum.
try (cries of no, no). Yet there never was a time when more warmth
of loyalty and good feeling existed, nor a time when the subjects might
be discussed with more security. He alluded to the momentary pro-
fessions of gentlemen at times when they had an end to accomplish, and
their tendency to turn round to their former systems as soon as their
purposes were served (coughing). lie did not think that public faith
could be maintained. He hailed with delight the glorious effects of
the French Revolution ; but those who thought that the effects would
stop there would find themselves mistaken (hear, hear, hear). They
would find that the spirit would disseminate itself into Italy, Prussia,
and every state that the Holy Alliance had by the sword kept from ex-
pressing openly their opinions. Ile would recommend a couneof non-
interference with Belgium; but a sentence in the speech from the throws
professed a different intention. He had seen a note from the Duke of
Wellington in which he avowed an intention to deviate from our gene-
ral line of policy. Perhaps it was not the intention to interfere with
the nature and form of the Government of Belgium, but may to take
care of its formation as far as related to France. But that sentence in
the speech certainly required some explanation. (hear.) He would
not detain the house in recapitulating all that had preceded, and all that
had succeeded the French revolution, although he had collected his
information on the subject carefully from several quarters. He was at
a loss to know what Government meant by 6 security of the states.'
He would take it upon 1 ' self to say, humble individual as he was,
that if a soldier from Russia, Prussia, or any of the European powers,
were marched into the countries which had struggled for their liberty,
that the soldiers would be infected with the same spirit of
liberty. Ile concluded with offering a few remarks on what he desig-
nated extraordinary conduct on the part of the ministry, in the opposite
policy they had adopted in recognizing .3liguel as King of Portugal,
who held the throne contrary to right, and in opposition to the will of
the people ; and that the ministers had, at the pante time, recognized
the Duke of Orleans as the King of the people's choice.
JOSEPH YORKE. said, he was pleased to hear that his Ma-
jest had met the Approbation of the bon. gentleman who spoke last in
sonic particulars; but it was evident that Mr. 1.. Wellesley was not very
enlightened on the subject of finances. Ile (Sir J. Yorke) could see
that the hon. gentleman' gloried in the French revolution ; in that he
had followed the seconder and mover, and like them he had not said
who was to blame. Ile had told us of the various sources from
whence he had obtained his information. and he had covered it
in by telling us, that the spirit would spread over all Europe--
(Cries of No, no.) Sir Joseph Yorke begged pardon if he had Ws..
construed the expressions of the hon. gentleman. He (Sir J. Yorke)
had been led into the mistake in a desire to follow the hon. gentleman
closely through all his arguments. His Majesty was bred on board of
a man-of-war—hat: his education in the cockpit, and from a midship-
man's chest had now stepped to the throne. lie (Sir J.) was proud
that one of his own profession should preside over the kingdom, and to
be the head of this house, where they assembled to dole out to the na-
then from their concocted wisdom. With regard to the amendment
that had been proposed, to use a phrase of the profession—it was a
tough and long yarn, and was composed of as many sheets as would
make a good-sired pamphlet. (Laughter.) He was a little surprised at
the noble lord who had moved the amendment, as being the represen-
tative of the house of Marlborough—he had pointed oat so much that
must be curtailed ; but he (Sir J.) could tell the noble lord, that if
sure retrenchment had been acted upon, neither the house of Marl-
borough, nor the house of Wellington, would have shared so
largely of testimonies of the public gratitude. (Laughter.)
It had been stated, lie believed by Mr. Meriden, that the country had
expended on the affairs of France 12,000,0001. and now was it to be
supposed that his Majesty was to sit with his sword in his hand and
not to may a word. Antwerp was a most important station. Boons.
pane had said that whoever held Antwerp held the key to Holland;
the access was so simple that they might come down in numbers over
the ice. He (Sir J.) thought that the ministers had acted wisely in
putting the speech into his Majesty's mouth. It was s matter of serious
import to anticipate what might be the consequences if France got poll-
sesijoa of Holland. He was not alarmed at the state of affairs, and he
that the conduct of Parliament would be carried down to poste-
tifF with
Mr. LONG WELLESLEY rose in explanation.
M. HUME regretted to hear that an officer should advocate war.
The speech that they had heard read had breathed nothing but war, and
had not at all attended to the wants and sufferings of the people. He
regretted that he should hear in a British Parliament any sentiments op.
posed to those who had struggled foi their freedom against the grasp of
despotism. The Bourbons had regained the throne on a solemn pledge
to grant free 'agitations to the people, and they had jusly forfeited
their claim to the thuds*. So far from regretting what had occurred, In
(Mr. Hume) rejoiced in the downfall of the despots. He did not like
to see a red coat to an address, for he always considered that an
officer must be influenced by the discipline to which he is subjected;
but Jet the gallant officer remember what had been the acts
of despots, bow waxy they had hurried to the scaffold, and
the blood they had caused to flow. He (Mr. H.) expected to hear
a far different speech': he knew that his majesty was a lover of free in-
*Stations ; sad he (Mr. Hume) agreed as to the effect it would have
upon the esentry. The Hon. Secretary for the Home Department had
►tetedeis the last speech be made during the last Parliament, that no
lIICSBUTES should be brought forward but such as were agreeable to the

people; but he (11r. H.) would venture to say that no one would be
prepared for such a speech as they had this night heard. Was it pos-
sible for men to suffer greater wrongs than Belgium had endured ? It
was not the explosion of Paris that excited Belgium, its grievances had
already made them ripe for resistance. The people of England would
complain that his majesty's speech called on Parliament to support
treaties entered into by the masters of the Holy Alliance to pacify Eu-
rope, which might be called wisdom then, but was, in reality, oppression
then as well as now.—( Hear.) It cam the people of England twelve
hundred millions to establish a dyeasty in France which was blown away
in three days.—( Hear.) He thought it an insult to the people of Eng-
land to call on them to expend their blood and the produce of their
labour in opposing liberty in Belgium, for that was the real meaning of
the Speech. He would undertake to say that the people of England
were not prepared to sacrifice men or money to interfere with any other
countries. (Loud cheers.) lie prided himself on being descended from
those who established their own liberties, and would not allow any other
country to interfere; and he thought it disgraceful to England to at-
tempt to force a government on other countries. Han, man in Eng-
land was disappointed by the King's Speech, be was that man. His
Majesty lived and reigned in the beans of the people, and he thought
the Speech would be in accordance with this feeling. The first ten pa-
ragraphs of the Speech were about foreign politics. What did we we
about foreign politica, while the people were starving? (Hear, hear.)—
He would ask any member of that house—any member he meant who
had any constituents—he need not ask those who were sent there by the
Peers, who were the representatives not of the people, but of the cor-
rupt system by which the people were kept out of what should be
their own House of Parliament ; he would ask any such man whe.
they there was not an universal cry amongst the people for a reduction
of taxation ? Pledges of economy had been given by every government
for the last fourteen years. but none of them had ever practised it: if
they had acted:on their pledges, that house would be the most econo-
mical house in the world, and the country would be the most economical
country in the world. The time, however' was now come when they
must be driven to practice economy and those were the King's best
friends who told biro the Truth. If niinisters thought that Britons were
to be less than Britons that they were to become hewers of wood and
drawers of water, they would find themselves woefully mistaken—(Hear.)
The people of England wanted reduction of taxation, and to elect the
men by whom the taxes were imposed. They wanted to keep the House
of Peers out of the House of Commons—(Hear, hear.) They did not
know how many of the people were starving—how many had died for
want, since the last Parliament. (No, no, from the ministerial benches.)
He wished the hon. members who sat behind that bench (Treasury
bench,) and fattened on the thousands a year taken from the people.
would but inquire into the condition of the people, by whose labour
those thousands were produced. Millions upon millions were granted
out of taxes paid by this suffering people to the idle, the 'useless, and
the profligate. Every measure of that house had a tendency to impo.
verish the people, yet no reduction of taxation was recommended in
the speech. If the speech had recommended reduction of taxation, he
would then say that the King was the father of his people, and that
his ministers deserved all honour and support ; but, instead of that,
it was but too evident that England was to be the last among the
nations of the earth that was to be relieved by its government of
the overwhelming burden of its taxation. Perhaps the seconder of
the speech might fancy that the working people are in a state
of comfort—that, instead of working sixteen hours a day to
earn three or four shillings a week, he had as many pounds. He had
said be wished to band down the Constitution untainted by inners-
don. It was tainted by the innovations of the aristocracy, who had
usurped the beet privilege of the people. The people of England, after
this day, might put on sackcloth and ashes, as it was evident their suf-
ferings were to continue. There was no disaffection to the King, but
there was great dissatisfaction with the Government. What was it
Ministers called disaffection ? His boo. friend, the member for Water-
ford, had a whim in his head that the Union with Inland could be re-
pealed. (A great laugh.) Was there any man in Ireland, out of the
Castle, that was frightened at his hon. friend's whim ? But the fact
was, the whole Castle took fright at Mr. O'Connell's letter. His hon.
friend had a right to bring before the House the question of the disco.
lution of the Union if he pleased; and if be could convince him (Mr.
Hume) that it would be beneficial, he should vote for it—but he
thought he would have something to do to convince him. (Cheers and
11 laughter.) Still he would say, that he would vote for the separation
rather than have Ireland kept as a colony. The union between Ireland
and this country bad neit in fact yet taken place. Why had the Mi.
nista., put into his Majesty's mouth, that there was disaffection 1 He
denied it; the power exercised in Ireland was despotism. If they
thought the Member foe Wataford was disaffected, why not namehlm ?
They had before excluded him by Act of Parliament' from a seat in
that House, to which he was elected; a mat pitiful proceeding. If
it was reasoitable that a separation between the two countries should
take place, why should not the people of Ireland be allowed to meet
for the pulpits ? (Great cheering hem the Treasury Benches,
implying that separation was the object. and would be the effect
of allowing the society to meet). Did they ppae they could gag
the whole people of Ireland ? He would tell Ministers a secret—no
one man could ever excite a people to disaffection, except the seeds were
sown by bad govannient.—(Hear.)—Why should not Ireland be go.
veined like England and Scotland ? He was anxious to put on record
his dissent from the speech ; but. from not being allowed to know the
contents before be beard it delivered, he could not dolt at present with.
out danger of its losing crude, and not free from something objection.
able. To-moneter' when the report should be brought up, be should
pot his opinion en record, as he could not consent to have it supposed
that be bad deserted any of the opinion he had hitherto supported in
that House, all of which he firmly maintained.--(Hear. hear.)
Mr. PEEL said, it appeared to be the wish of the house to come to
an early dathdon, and it was not necessary for him to enter into any
lengthened defence of the speech. The noble lord had concurred in the
principle of the address; and the honourable gentleman's objections were
founded on an unintentional misrepresentation. He had said that his
Majesty charged the people with disaffection; but on the contrary, he
bad declared his confidence in the loyalty of the people. He lamented
to hear the bonoundge gentleman using inflammatory language.
Should he represent the people of England as being in a starving
state ? That there was distress in some places be deeply lamented ;
but the people of England were not in a starving state. 'rho hon. gen.
damn had broached a new doctrine, that foreign politics did not coo.
cern this country. (Hear.) If he did not advert to foreign policy, the
time would come when all his economy at home would not be sufficient
for the security of the beet interests of the state. (Hear.) The minis.
ten of the crown were not responsible for the expressions used by the
movers or seconders of the address, though both had acquitted them.
selves with great ability; but the hon. gent. should allow them to express
their own sentiments. (hear). The beacarable gentleman assumed that
ministers approved of the issue of the ordinanees of the late Frenchlking.
He deeply deplored and condemned the issuing these ordinances. He
bad bdorestated distinctly in that house that the Government of this
country bad never interbred, directly nor indirectly, in the appointment
of Prince Pol*nac to be Minister of France. It was said they should
have prevented the issue of those ordinances; but they bad no means,
for they had no knowledge of them till after they were issued.—(Hear,
hear, hear)--With respect to Belgium, there was a wide distinction
between what took place in the Netherlands and what took place in
France. Looking at the Netherlands for the last fourteen
years, he thought the government was more free and the people more
happy, than they had before been. The speech had no reference to what
took place in Antwerp, it referred to what took place in Brussels. The
situation of Belgium was a peculiar situation. it was the ground on
which all the conflicts of Europe had been fought for ages. In 1814
Belgium was occupied by Austrian troops, and it was offered by the five
powers who were parties to the treaties of Paris, to the King of the
Netherlands, on terms of Misgoverning it in a certain specified manner.
We incurred considerable expense in carrying this arrangement into
effect, and the country had enjoyed prosperity under the enlightened ad.
ministration of the K. of the Netherlands. That country now revolts, and
claims its separation. Civil war now rages, and there appears to be no
chance that, if the parties ate left to themselves, any settlement can take
place. Can it be inconsistent with humanity for• those powers to of-
fer their good offices to bring about a satisfactory arrangement between
the contending parties? To this country and the King of the French
it appeared that such mediation might be beneficial, and other govern.
men„ concurred in is propriety. With respect to Portugal, they lied
not changed their opinion of Don Miguel's usurpation ; and they had
refused to recognise his authority, a even to consider it till he should
grant an amnesty for all political offences. Two years and area months
had elapsed since Don Miguel ascended the throne of Portugal; his
subjects acquiesced in his rule, and the commercial British subjects
were affected by our delaying to enter into diplomatic misdate
with him. The Honourable Gentleman had called a disgrace
ful set the issuing of a proclamation in Ireland foe the pre.
vendee of a meeting, which was intended to renew the agits.
dos which the Catholic Kelief Bill had allayed, and which be
believed would not be revived, bad not advantage been taken of the
events which had taken place in Paris and Belgium.--(Hear hear.)
Gentlemen had mid, that the Honourable Member for Weinfeld had a
whim in his head; but was it foe the indulgence of such • whim that
as inflammable people should be excited and inflamed? (Hear, hear.)
Let it not be supposed that Government could be gulled by the asset.
don, that the meeting was only intended to make a temperate appeal to
Parliament. (Hear, bear.) The Honourable Gentleman had said that
Ireland was not yet ready to oppose force to force. (Immense cheer.
ing.) There could be no doubt that his object was to torm an
assoeia-
don in Dublin that should agitate and indame the people of Ireland,
till it would be dangerous to refuse their demands. (Great cheering.)
It was because he believed it was true mercy to the people to pre-
vent their being made the victims of those who sought to gain an
unenviable eminence by playing on their credulity and in.
flaming their maims, that he advised the Proclamation foe
the prevention of such a society. (Cheers.) It was because
he was most anxious to relieve the distress and improve the condition of
the people of Ireland, that be would not incur the responsibility of not
issuing such a proclamation. We should not encourage the wild pro.
jest, that never could be executed, of dissolving the Union. Having
united the hems:thy—having united Wales to Eegland—having united
Scotland, and having completed the whole by the unit* of Ireland, let
us not retrace our steps, by commencing the dissolution of the empire.
I When the proper time came, he would undertake to show, from what

took place in Ireland when she bad a separate parliament, and from the
sympathy which bad since grown up between Ireland and Ragland, that
attempt at separation might lead to the spilling of the best blood of
an
countries. (The right boo. gentleman sat down amidst the loudest
cheering, which continued for an unusual length of time.)
Mr. O'CONNELL said he rose to address the house with satiate.-
tion,m it afforded him an opportunity to repel calumny. He had alma
dein to the attention of the house, as he represented the people. He
had more constituents than all his Majesty's ministers. Tbei bad all
shrunk from any popular election, and he believed there was but one
=them representing any thing better than a rotten borough. The
tt if the Ring was most unsatisfactory. It said nothing of the
poverty of the people; but if the people were not suffering in England,
why were they burning machinery ? It was a libel on the people to say
they could so act, but from the pressure of deep distress. There was an
expression ofregret for the misfortune Oche King of France who sent his
army toast down unarmed citizens. The right how gent. lamented that
the ordinances had been issued, and also condemned them, but he could
tell the reason s—the ordinances did not produce the intended
effect, but brought destruction co those by whom they were issued.
Don Miguel was compared to the King of the French—but oh ! what a
difference! He would mention one single point.—King Philip had se.
parated the church from the state ; that adulterous conaection by which
the church was polluted and the people oppressed. Don Miguel endem
voured to render the union more firm, because be found in the church
the support of his despotism. The administration of the King of Hol-
land was called an enlightened administration. He denied that it was
an enlightened administration. It refused to make judges independent
.--lt refused to allow trial by jury—and it totally suppressed the liberty
of &wilted's. The language of the people was French, and they were
cow to plead in the courts in Dutch, which not one in ten under.
atood. It was, be supposed, peculiarly enlightened to suppress all the
parochial schools. /tech bishop had a diocesan school for the educa-
tion of young men, supported not by the state, but endowed by indivi-
duals ; yet these were ail abolished ; and this was the country that was
called enlightened, and that at a time that all the usurped authority
of man over his fellow man was giving way, and the whole fabric of
unrighteous domination crumbling in the dust. and the people were de.
termined to have a good and cheap government ; and it was at such a
time we were going to interfere with the freedom of Belgium. No one
could doubt that the minister would have an army in Belgium but for
the national debt, and because the Holy Alliance found that they bad
enough to do at home. The minister who made the speech miOt cen-
sure him, but he would not condescend to vindicate himself from his
alumni:l. It was intended, by the expreasks in the speech, to say
that the people who wished to agitate the dissolution of the Union were
disaffected to the king, or wished to separate the countries, they were
both calumnies. He was told there were dishonourable means of
acquiring influence and station. There was one way certainly, which
he had witnessed, by talking of religion, and Goo, and conscience,
as uniting to form a champion of the Established Church, and
opponent of Catholic freedom ; and after giving every pos.' bible encouragement to all who would become his supporters, by his re.
pared declarations, then, without change in his principles, to turn round
and desert those who had put faith in his remises. This was a way in
which be could never obtain eminence or influence. lie had never de.
serted any one who had come to the support of measures he advocated.
A thousand times he had asked what the Union had done for Ireland?
and the question had never been answered. Did the right hon. gentle-
man know how the Union had been carried? A civil war was excited
in Ireland—this was admitted in the Irish House of Commons ; and the
corruption that was practised exceeded every thing that was ever before
known even in that country. What was the effect of the Union ? Why,
the revenue fell off three millions without a single tax being taken off.
—The consumption of wine, tea, sugar, all fell of, though the po-
pulation had since doubled. An Act was also passed by this Par.
liament, by which the landlord was enabled to eject the tenant from
his tenement for 2211. 6d. ( Hear.) They also passed the Sublet.
lag Act. Did the House know the effect of that Act ? There was a
constant rush into all the towns of Ireland of the poor, driven out of
their cottages by hundreds and by thousands. Why did the people
suffer all this without resistance ? It was because they had confidence
In those who sought to repeal the Union. If the people were told that
there was no hope for their distress, that every thing said against them
in that House was cheered, while their advocate was only allowed to
speak in their behalf by sufferance; if hope was banished from their
minds, they might take counsel from despair. During the whole time
that he was advocating Catholic emancipation, be had constantly said
that he looked for a domestic legislature. He said so for upwards of
2U ) ears, without producing any effect; but when the people felt their
poverty continually increasing, and saw an attempt made to add to their
taxation, they then united in one common sentiment to petition for the
repeal of the Union. The promoters of the repeal had recourse
to none but legal means, and they kept the people quiet, and they
would persevere. The landlords of Ireland had ldt the country, and
their rents were exported. In one county, Wicklow, 50,0001 a year
was sent to one of those noble landlords, and notice tad been given to
800 of his tenants to quit at May l In many places the Mendicity
Associations were unable to continue to relieve the destitute poor, and
they were thrown off to perish. In the town of Naas, belonging to a
nobleman who opposed the repeal of the Union, there were 12,000 in.
habitants, and there was an influx of 4,800 paupers, turned out of their
habitations and come to add to the peony of the townspeople, or to
perish
in their streets. This was the case all over the towns of Ire-
They might arraign his condact—.they might complete the
ruin of his country—they might enspend the Habeas Cayes Act—they
might prepare for him their &apse...but be would never be their serf.
Mr. CURTEIS said he bad Weed with geese disapprobation the in.
dernmatory speech of the boa. Cleedernan. He wee as independent a
' member as the hos. gendsmes, and he would support ministers in the
most effectual easasones Ar poeventing his agitat the people of Ire.
land.—(bear, bass) Ns *might mildews ought not only to prevent
his forming esseciadess Wasp Imbed in a state of disturbance, but
ought to prevent his demi( the people by writing. (A laugh.) At
the same time, he thought Wain= should practise every possible re-
duction of expense, which all the pis* required, and should avoid all
interference in the affairs of or any other foreign country,
which the people would not endow,— rbear.)
Mr. BROUGHAM said, if the Hon. Member for Waterfeed meant
to'say that the House would net hear, it was aisle-statement, which was
refuted by the very great attendee the House had just bestowed on his
eloquent speech. He bad Yard that spe..h with great pain,
because it drew a of Ireland were appalling than be drought
could be presented of any port of the civilized world. He bad heard this
statement made, every symptom of which was indicative of mortal
distress, and not one of his Majesty's Ministers pve the slightest coo.
tradiction to the statement. lie had also heard the King's Speech with
as much pain as he had ever beard any speech from the 'Doom. (Hear.) He
would first express his satire satisfaction, which be only shared with the
house, at his majesty's having given up that unconstitutional branch
of revenue which the crown had held independent of parliament. He
held it to be his bounden duty to protest against the dangerous doctrine
of the speech. The doctrine of interference in the Speech was hot-
tamed on a principle never before acted on by the minister of the crown
of England ; for ministers had declared that the principle of non-Inter-
fcrence was at an end—that this government were to look to the in-
ternal affairs of foreign countries (hear, hear). He protested against
such principles; he expressed not these opinions for the purpose of
criticism nor from party feeling. if he wished to gratify pasty feel.
ings he had only to look at any part of the government who now assumed
the management of the affairs of this country, and he should find
ample gtound to indulge such inclination, such was their weakness;
but he expressed them, to give warning against embarking in that fatal
policy into which they were about to be plunged by the ministers.
He regretted much that his Majesty was made to express "deep regret
let the state of affairs in the Low Countries ;" but as if that were net
enough, he was made to add, " I lament that the enlightened (the
" enlightened !") administration of the King should nut have pre-
served his dominions from revolt." Revolt I Such was the language
that had been advised, but this was the first time that a British Sove-
reign had been advised to express opinions respecting the private, in.
usual, and domestic 'Skim of" another country. (Hear.) In truth,
bad they not enough to do to attend to the affairs of Middlesex,
Kent, and Ireland? Ministers might have found enough to do
with affairs at hone without troubling themselves, even were the course
correct, with these foreign speculations. They had no right to interfere,
(Hear.) They bad co right to praise the Dutch Government as " en.
lightened," and they had no right to brand the resistance to that Go.
ver9ment as " revolt." (Cheers.) It was none of the business of our
ki :listen to express any utilises—it we. paltry and impertinent wed.
dling—it was unworthy at the character of the Crown, unworthy to in.
dulge in such mischievous gossiping, and it was inconsistent with the
dignity of Parliament to be mode a party to such gossip and meddling.
But would to GOD that he could mil it impertinent meddling only ; it
had a direct tendency to peemete war. (Hear, bear.) To show the
character of suck leagreepa, ha would reverse the picture. Sup.
pose the King at the Hqpie had chorea, in his address to site
gums Gonad to se;tic " Unseat to se. that pars of the King of
Englsnd's doubler dial Maui might choose to teks_pert with the
people) are vary appssuml, and I lament that Parliamentary
rm has bees sob Inetpested ; sad I lament that the enlightened
people of Ireland Mu lea lbastrated by the tyrannical condu the
Government.—(tboXilieg might speak of tyranny where others spoke of
revolt"),—in dimehing that unioa which is the object of .11
true men and good purists." What should we think of
like this ? and yet the Wag of the Netherlands would be leas=
justified in using it, as we were in speaking et the conduct of the
Belgians. The luggage which he had quoted was a proud.
nem, a disgraceful pen of the King's Speech, and Is was wholly
uarvadented. Even whoa the disgraceful of Poland took
place, the Sing'S Speech °Leaved a studied 2=1:18. es! doubt,
the Foreign Secretary of tbat day bad almost as goad la LNeam oaths
Foreign Secretary tot this country had in July last, when en the Oa co
that month they was told in the s.Speethhotlitial there was tan.
quiddity though, four days was in commotion
resisting the ordiseneer (hoer, hear.) bot wet* decline thee
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guidance of Mr. Pitt, whose namesakes or followers, or rem.
mutt, or latter pert of the remnant, the gentlemen opposite pretended to
bet no, just, correct, and stateman.like silence waa observed till s, pt
1792, when allusion was made to the events, but only to exprebs ti.at
there would be non-interference. That mime was adhered to ali

France Issued an edict calling on the people of all states to rise in revolt
against their Sovereigns. Thus there was no interference till a ea,
arose demanding notice. Now, however, for the first time an unmet.
dented course was pursued, and in such a way as to occasion in his nil!'
serious alarm. When be said he looked with apprehension approach.
Ing to alarm—let it not be supposed that his ground for alarm rested
hex; no, it did not rest here ; there was further ground for alarm ;
the interference bad, in reality, already begun. (Hear' hear.) b
there were not an expression on the part of the house and the
of the government were not frightened from that purpose upon
they seemed resolved, the peace of Europe was not worth six
eitsuths•)3urchase, whoever might live to see the result—(Hear, Ilex)
M I am, • said the King's Speech, " endeavouring, in concert with say
allies, to devise such means of restoring tranquillity as may be earn.
pkible with the good government of the Nalands, and with tht•
temerity of other states.' Who did not see here another Congress
Venn, and Aix.la-Cluipelle—the late Lord Londonderry, and the pre-
sent Prince Metternich—and not only "my allies," but the " holy
alliance." He trusted any such interference, in any manner, would
resisted by the Parliament as the people's preservers of the public
peso—(cheers)—and he was the more anxious to urge such expires.
sion of opinion, because be knew of nothing that was so likely to din.
turb the'peace as acting on the principles avowed in this part of the
King's Speech. (Hear, hear.) And he would not have it imaginett
that there was no ground for alarm, because the present was the weakest
Ministry that had ever, by any combination of circumstances, fanned
the Goverment—bee :use they were men who had hardly been able tc
carry on the official business, but who certainly were inadequate to meet
the debates in Parliament; unfortunately, men who were weak, still
might involve the country in such difliculdes as to render a war inevit-
able. (Hear, hear.) They were men who were likely to be imposed
upon, and flattered Into mischievous acts. There would be little per-
sons buzzing about them, and urging that to create a little alarm would
be a good thing—that it would be useful to have some negociations—
imposing to have a Congress—and it was better to do something.
than "tot to do nothing." (Cheers and laughter.) Besides, a Con-
gaga at London would be a great hit ; there would be the car-
riages and shows, and, above all, the sight of divers foreignersforeignersfor the gratification of the Londoners. That would get the parliament
through the session. Then there would be the to amuse the
public during the recess ;—but unfortunately these matters might
bring them upon the precipice of war, and so place them as to make the
war almoe inevitable.—(Hear, hear.) He was for avoiding any pro.
needing that might place this country in such a dilemma. He might
have expressed himself somewhat lustily, but be it remembered that he
had not WOO the king's speech till three or four hours ago. He ex-
pressed his alarm now, because be saw the principle of interference, in-
stead of non-interference, avowed. . He warned the ministers against

continuing the course 'upon which they seemed resolved and
If they were deaf to him, then he warned the house of the con.
sequences. He agreed with the good, sensible, and promising
=chof the honourable member for Sussex (Mr. Cur).
rte
it was the deep-rooted and immovable opinion of the
peoples( littgleowl, that they would not have the peace broken—that
they would set sedum any Minister who fancied that it was right
to adopt the principle of interference, or who felt disposed to espouse
the cause of crowned tyrants. The ministers might think the King
of Holland " enlightened "—but he believed the people of England
did not consider his acts to have been very " enlightened." (Cheers.)
The march of the Dutch army into Brussels, while negociations
were pending, was moat pefidlous, and by it had been aroused that
indignation which had led to the annihilation of such army. The
Wt act of that enlightened" monarch was to set Antwerp in flames.
lie did not praise all the conduct of the Belgians, but he blamed those
who compelled him to the unseemly task of discussing the internal affairs
amber countries. Hoek would 'gone word respecting Ireland. The
se eases in the Netherlands had occasioned agitation la Ireland—but
dim was total disaepaney between the circumstances attending the
imbra of the Netherlands and that of Ireland (hear). In this country
the was no fear of contagion • he had no fear that it would spread—
ant because the King's speech intimated as much, but because the pm.
pie were sound at heart. The representation might be, be wished it was,
woe; but be was, he believed he spoke the sentiments of the people,
*Eau limited monarchy, which necessarily required an infusion of
aliketeeseey. Foe his part, he would sustain this form of government as
best calculated to secure the rights of the people; and he would rather
pada to efforts to defend it than survive to read the lesson that its de.
Oruction would give him of the instability even of the best of inatitu.
thus. (Loud cheers marked the conclusion of this speech, with clapping
at bawds from many persons in the gallery.)
Sir H. PARNELL denied that there existed in Ireland any general
feeling against the Union with this country. At the last general election
a repeal of the Union had never once been mentioned on the hustings. Te
be convinced that it was the interest of every Irishman to uphold that
Union, it was sufficient to look to the commercial state of Ireland prior
WIN taking place. With ripest to the distress existing in Ireland,
'however much it was to be regretted, he believed the hon. member fur
Waterford bad grea exaggerated its extent.
Mt. FITZGERALD, in answer to the hon. member for Yorkshire,
omMended that the allusion in his Majesty's Speech to an interference in
the affairs of Belgium, was merely with termite to a diplomatic inter-
twine', unavoidable with respect to a country so nearly situated to our
own. The principle of absolute non-interference, was admitted to hare
completely failed at the beginning of the French Revolu-
tion, and was contrary to the course which had been ever adopted by the
wisest ministers of this country. With respect to the affairs of Ireland
be denied that, as asserted by the hon. member for Middlesex, the Se.
eretary of State for Ireland had interfered with the meetings of the
people for the subject of petitioning ; the proclamation, issued to pat
down a society assuming attain parliamentary functions, had, he was
persuaded, prevented the occurrence of a civil war among a people
excited by foreign events.
Mr. SPRING RICE rose to protest against the assertion that the
protection of Ireland from a civil war rested upon that proclamation.
With respect to the repeal of the Union, he would only say that to that
Union we must cling, under pain of degrading England and Ireland,
separated from each other, to the lowest rank in the scale of nations.
Mr. FITZGERALD explained.
Sir H. HARDINGE said he rose merely to observe, that it was one
thing to tolerate meetings for expressing the opinion of the people on
any great public question, such as the repeal of the Unice, and another
to tolerate an association which was nothing else but a revival of the
Catholic Association, and which fell, therefore, under the Act of Par-
liament for the repressing of dangerous associations.
After a few words from Mr. Honors, EDWAIRD lENATCHBU LL.
and Mr. Hume, the Address was agreed to without a division.
The House then adjourned at a QuarrEa to TWELVE.

. Nov.

An unpleasant feeling 'pervades —ifiroughout the town in consequence
of a deliberate act of self-murder committed here last night by a young
gentleman, who, from papers found on his person, appears to have been
a member of Worcester College, Oxford. The letters in his pocket•book
were addressed to Albert Smith, Es. The general opinion here is, that
the deceased, who was a total stranger at Newmarket, had previously
been in desperate circumstances, and had ridden over from Gin:bride,
with the intention either of winning sufficient to extricate biroself.
or, as not being successful, of destroying himself. This ides
is supported, as well by his conduct on the race-course as by the subtle.
quest deliberation of his proceedings. He evinced great eagerness to
bet against Locate for the last race, and seemed careless as to the odds
being above the market piles. His engagements, however, were few;
his being unknown to tke betting urea will readily account for this. Of
course he lost. In the evening he dined at the inn where he was sup,
ing, and seemed very anxious about his portmanteau, which it turns
out contained a case of hair-triggered duelling pistols. On thie
being brought into the room he wrote a letter immediately, and made
the waiter accompany him to the post-office, to see him place it in the
letterbox. Previous to this he had had some conversation
with two persons, which does not appear to have been of a very
friendly nature. Immediately on his return from the post.ofEce• he
&avast the door of his room, and, as it would seem, discharged both
the pistols at his head, fur two reports were heard, with a slight in-
terval between them ; neither of them took effect, one of the bulls
having lodged in the ceiling. He must then have again loaded ore
of the pistols, which this time was aimed with certain effect. The
ball entered immediately behind the right ear passed through the
brain in its pelage, dividing the arteries, aid lodged immediately
beneath the upper part of the skull on the left side. Death was inson.
amass. There wee a lapse of nearly three minutes between the tint
and the last dbchages. thi entering the room at the window, be was
found lying on his back, and the floor completely deluged with blood.
The deceased is supposed to have been connected with some respectable
families in the neighbourhood of Aberystwith. His manners and fir•
pesrance were gentlemanly.
The races in the list for to.day, owing to the opening of Parliament.
arc quite unimportant ; in fact, if the conditions of the plate would hart
permitted, it would have been put off to the end oft week. Tb,
match was decided as follows :
Match, T.Y.C. 50 h. ft. Ilst. 51bs. each.
. . Lewd Chesterfield's f. by Silkworm, d. by Waxy
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Mr. cooper's c,1.d4g7 ••• • • • •
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At Blyboreugh-hall, Lincolnshire, on the Slit ult. the Lady of Car-
ta% Ltsard, Ill& Lamas, of s son.
MARRIED.
Yesterday. at Christ Church. Marylebent, J. Sterling, E.q. of the
loon Temple. to Sums, eldest daughter of the late Lieut..Gesersl
Charles Barton, of the 2d Life Guards.

DIED.
On &today, the 24th ult. at Brighton, the Nev. W. Yates, 11% the
67th yew of Ms And on the morning of the lit inst. Sophia
Vatote‘his timer. het Seth pac.
MOOS : tin !ht y owe *us. n► ♦M-
Orrtss, No. 1, Pickett-place, Temple Bar.