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LAVERSTOCK-HOUSE. HEAR SALISBURY.

INSANITY.
AN unfounded Report having gone abroad, that
3- Mr FINCH. Su it atom. had removed from Laler Rock, he
refpedtfully informs Medical Gentlemen, and the Guardians of
thole unhappily affiidled with Mental Derangement, that, fo far
from fuch intention, he has, in conjunetion with his Mother (WI.
&vs of the late Mr. Finch), made Come very confident* addi-
tions and arrange mews to their Afylum, for the general comfort
of their Patients ; and that no exertions on their part shall be ever
omitted to roach the agliEtions of chore entrufted to their care, and
to promote (if poffible) a fpeedy recovery.—the Hoare is eligibly
fituated about a mile from the Great Weliern Road, command
lug a cheerful and romantic view of the adjacent country, with
many acres of garden and pleafure grounds attached ; and pleafant
and entenlive rides and walks may be enjoyed by the Patients,
without the trait expofure.
Mr F having devoted his flatly to this particular branch of his
profeffinn, and the unvarled fuccefs which has attended a long (c-
-ries of cstenfive pradlice, he hopes, with confidence, to merit the
patronage of thole friends who may be pleated to honour hint
therewith.

Mr. F. attends Patients at their own basks, at any reafonWe
diftance from Salt(bury, in cafes which do not admit of a removal.

BAYLEY'. PATENT BLACKING CAKES,
lATRICH have maintained an acknowledged Su-
pcvlorky for more thsu Thirty Years, continue to be Sold
by BATLI T and BLEW, No. s, Cockfpur-Etreet, London, price
Sixpence each.
Gentlemen who do not think this Blacking /Ink es their Boots
thine fuflicieeitly, are refpedfully informed , that if the Cake is dif-
folved hi Vinegar beftead of Water, it will produce a Luau equal
to japan ; but it Is nsceffary to ohferve, that Vinegar is extremely
Injurious to the I.eather, and deprives this Blacking of one of its
molt valuable Properties, viz. That of keeping the Leather loft
and pliant. and preventing it from Cracking.—The fame a tft
may be produced by mixing Vitriol with the Water, but the in-
jury to the Leather will be Rill greater.
N. B. To prevent Counterfeits, the Bills of Diredlions are Ggrsed
as below, which appears on the Outfide of each Cake.

W. BAYLEY.

MANSION HOUSE NEAR THE SEA.
to be SOLD in Fee, by PRIVATE CON FRACT,
ALL that strong-built commodious, and Comfor-
table MANSION HOUSE, with fourtten Acres of excel-
lent Land, called RA ME PLACE, delightfully fituated. in the
Patills of Ranie, about three Miles from Plymouth Dock, and
Within a very Mort diflariee of Mount Edgecumbe
The Howie is capable of receiving a large Family, and during
the latt winter was the Rcfidence of Earl St. Vincent

The Purehafcr may be accommodated with a very valuable
E Elate adjoining the aboire Premifea, and immediate poffeffion of
the Houfe if required.
The Premife. may be viewed on application to Thomas Ed
wards, Efq. the Proprietor. at Rame Houfe, and further panicu-
lari known of Mr. Hunt, Attorney, George-itreet, Plymouth.
Plymouth, ply 6, *Bo?.

PEMBROKESHIRE.
TO BE LET, frnm Michaelmas next,

•
Att that MESSUAGE nr DWELLING-
HOUSE, Garden, fix flailed Stable and 13arn. with the
Appurtenances, called and known by the name of SODSTON,
Blunts in the Parini of Harbert'', in the County of Pembroke.
The Dwelling houfe confitlii of two parlours and a hall on the
ground Boor, four good bed chambers on each of the tirit and
econd floors with good garrets over them, and a good kitchen,
dairy and cellar-, under ground.
Sodlton is fituatcd on an eminence which commands extenfive
Ind pleafapt views of the furrounding country, and within a mile
of the market town of Narberth, and ten milts «f Haverford weft,
through each of which towns the Mail Coach tuns every day,
from Milford to London.

The Country abounds--
with game, and thews la a pack of bounds
kept vri,mn a mile of the place; and there alfo fermi capital
brooks w• trout, within a short diftanee of the Houk.

A T. ni•u may br (applied with any quantity of Land not e=•
seeding too Acres.

For :further psrrkula►u entrire of Mr John Bateman, Haver-
fordwr.R.—.l-laverforawclt, Junc 30, 18Q7.

FONFHILL MANSION, WILTS.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION.
By Mr. H. PHILLIP.', on the Peerages, on Monday the t Ith of
Augult, and fix following days (Sundays excepted) at twelve.
ALL the Magnificent and collly HOUSEH )LD
FURNITURE; noble French Plate 'Males of angular
Magnitude, Pcrfeaion and Beauty, meafuri-g from ;oh by 64
ttt by 64, and of idler dimenfions ; the fubcrb Organ in the Hall,
the cal- tinted St,tue of Bacechus. brought front Rome by the
Honourable Charles Hamilton, Bronzes, Carving: in Ivory, fwn
fuperb Tables of (hi-mtal Alatafter, Ftrurcan Ware; Valuable
ORIGINAL PICTURES, by N Pouffin, Leonard' da Vinci Lu-
dovicco Caerachl Vernet. Bcc.—a complete Set of the 1.0 .gie of
the Vatican, colo.tred efteenr-d the fineft and malt p r-eet extant,
and illumined with gold by P. Pani correfpnndently trained and
glazed with French Pate Gla's.—Colleai n of Modern Pidtu .es
and Drawings, by Turner Haniil!,in Romney, Hodges and others
—A Cabinet of rare Mandarin, Royal Seve, Weld n and French
PORCELANB, compofed of jars, Cilterns Vales. Urns. and
Cabinet Gems, Dinner, Dcffirt, and rcs Services ;,an Armblage
of the fcirce and fine Old- Gold Japan--The lateral valuable Sta-
tuary Marble Chimney Pieces. of elegant Defign and cxquip-is
Sculpture, by Bacon. Banks and Flamm; fume) Stoves all the
beautVul Mahog thy Doors, and other valuable and fplendid
F.ffeCt is of
FONTHILL. MANSION near SALISBURY, WII.TS
The Domellic Furnits.re is in the imnardiate Tulle. and computed
of a limerior•Defctiption of Materials; the Draperies brill formed
of evilly Satins, Silks. 13 imafk, and hintz : particularly a Suite
of Satin Hangings, cid:watt-1y and beautifully p tinted in Flowers ;
the Commodes. Cabines, Cheffoniers, Confoles. and Pier fabler,
are formed of Role and Satin Woods. dellened a !'Antique, anti
decorated with Or•Molu ; Mahogany and Ruf.., w..od Dining,
Pembroke, Library, Wilting. and Dreffing Tables; Suites of
Chain, covered with Satin, Morocc ), and Chintz; affirmable
Stylus, Eauteuls. and Bcrgicrs; Carp, ts, of the A aminftc r Bra-
fels and Turkey Factories, and fele& Patterns; fumpt uoua carved
and gilt Tripods and antique Candelabras; txtellei.t Catiory,
Four port Sepha, and Fi I I Bedfteads, aril rich Hangings, with
appropriate-Bedding Goofe and Down Beds, Wardrobes, Drafting
Commodes and Tables, Chats of Drawers, and the ufual Aff. rt-
trent of Chamber Fun:l:tire. the molt of which New within the
lalt Four Years, and now in the higheft ftate.of Prefervation.
May be viewed froth the 27th of July, tgc7, to the Day of Sale,
by Catalogues only, at ss, each, to be had of Mr. Collins, Printer,
Salifbury ; Meffis. Fozall, Fryer. and Co. Old Cavendilh-ftreet ; at
the Place of Sale; and of Mr. Phillips, New Bond ftreet
N. B. The Sale of the Valuable Materials of the Manfion will
tak: place in September next.

TO BE SOl D BY ADC 10N,
At the honfe of Mr. William Loftus, the Turk's Head. in New-
eaftle-upon Tyne. on Thurfday, the 3cth day of July, aor,
between the hours of eleven and twelve in the forenoon,hy or-
der of the Affignees of Aubone Suttees, John Suttees, Rowland
Burdon. John Brandling, and John Ftnbleton. bankrupts,
L thole FREEHOLD ME6SUAGES,
tur_rnents.farmholds lands, and grounds, lituated at or in
the towns, townlhips, and villages of high and Low Het:talon, b.
th • parial of Helledon, in the county of Durham, with a vain
able feting of wood in Fliledon Dian, containing together, by
eft.nottion, t 35a acres, or thereabouts, now in th : feveral Laurel-
Sons of Mars. Harding, Merrs Lax. Merits Thomplon, Ma:-
thew Thotn.nn, Robert Berkeley, and fevetal others.
Alio all that Improveable freelicid and t ythe 4-tee Fitate, at Little
Eden, with BlackhiU, Cotsford Grange. and Dean .Houle, in the
partial of Eafington, in :he county of Durham, containing together
900 acres, or thereabouts,now in the porelEon of Meffrs. Mordty
and Merts. Rewcaftle.

Allo.in Six Lots, all thole Eleven Fields or Clofes of ric'Mea•
dow and Patiure Land fituat, d at Stockton, in the county of
Durham, containing ye' acres, or thereabouts, now in the police!.
Don of Mr. William Hatton and Mr. John Worthy.
Heftcdon and Little Eden Mates adjoi•t • he Sea, where abun-
dance of limeltone and Ira ware can be had, at a moderate e 2.-
pence, and are capable of great improvement
Dean Houle and Cottford Grange comprlfe the north fide of the
beautiful dean called Caftie Eden Dean, with a ealuahle fpriug of
wood-thereon. Dean Houle,, with e.out
,p acres of Cuttfurn
Orange, islet front year to year Little Eden, Blatlthill and the
reft of Cotsford Grange., are let under an improveable Late, niite
years of which will be unexpired at May day next. The whole
of Htfiedain Farms except Filpoke Farm arc ler from year to year.
The irtpteliee tenants,Of William fayinr, of Cattle Eden, will
mew the premifes in the patinae. of Eafington and Heil don; and
the particulars of the lots and a plan of the Lind at Stin:kton may
be leer by applying to Mr. John Worthy, who will Ow" the pre.
mires; and for particulars as to all the premifea, apply to Joleph
Bainbridge, Solicitor, Newcaftle upon lyric.
Alfo, at the faille time and place.
All the faid Rowland Bandon', life, 2,141 contingent Intereft in
therm ofa :Aga 125 sad bank fair per cent. a,:nuities and in Ai
o her the gtneral refidue of the Leftate and Eff.di• of General
Richard Matthews, deeeated, which he is voided to by virtue or
the let dement mad- previous to his marriage, a ith his pref., nt wite,
fake I to the payment (out of the liitereft) of szcL to Mrs eur-
don . tor life

AU the faisl John Surfer,' lire and contingent intereft In *le fa-n
of 21341 is fire per cent reduc7d bank annuities, and 23331. C..
three per cent reduced bank annuities, which hr ii rtitiled to b
virtue of the fettlement made previous to his mterri tire fcttkmen's,
fort *lift. •
Printed particular, of the refpeetive enterefts of Mr Burdon
and Mr. J. Sunce%, under their retvelivr ma, ri Age fettle milts.
may be had of William Atkinfon, Wq Ni. 56, Cliancery•lant,
London ; James Foriter. Ell. banker. CAI., lie ;
Rig. ikrwick ; Kober' Dick. Pfq Coldftream ; R Strachan, Fi,i.
writer to the-heat tadintartili; or Jofekh Bainbridge,
Nevrcshle.

BANK Nprrs
LOST on Flid.ty evening lati, twr, Bank NMe?,
(me ici No 1434, died July 4, 18.17 ; and the other 1!).
No. 3(
.58, 41:itot Tune 29 'boy ...7Whoerer will Ming the Note:. an
::hose, to NlrlTr.. Mick, P.trry. and Kinpfburfs, bookfeln
No. 7, 1..-a lent.an-ftreet, reccive.a reward ut Five Pounce.
N R. Payment is Popped at the Batik.

FAR L 144 MA NTAR r PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE. OF LORDS, ILLY 13.
Lords Brittol ar.d Northt fk took the oaths and their team
MILITARY STATE OF THE COUNTRY.
Lord SIDNIOUTH role, and expreffed
happy to fee a Noble Lord (Ilawke(hury ) in his
place, from whom he felt defirnus to obtain an an-
fwer to a quellion, refpeCting which his uneafinefs
every day increafed. The objeCt of that queflion
was to learn from the 'Noble Lord, if it was the in-
tention of his Majeny's Milliners to propofe any new
meafure for the defence of the country, or to tollow*
up on a more extended fcale the fyflem that had al-'
ready been adopted, fo as to make it bear fume pro.
portim to the encrealing dangers of the empire. He
felt it his duty to take this Rep, in order to relieve,
nat only his own anxiety, but the anxiety that every
one mull feel at a moment fo alarming as the pre.
tent ; Ihould he have the fatisfaftion to receive fuch
an arifvver as he expeCled, then he {horrid have to re-
(plea the Noble Loid to Rate the time %Then it was
likely fuch a propofition could be brought forward,
adding his with that it might be on an early day—
for as the danger increafed every hour, he thought it
a matter of the molt urgent importance, that it
Ihould be provided againft without delay.
Lord HAW KESBURY was happy to be able to
affure the Noble Vifcount and the Houfe, that the
fubjeCt of the Military State of the Country had oc-•
copied the attention of Minillers from their very en-
trance into °Rice. It might not be proper at the pre-
terit moment to enter into any explanatit n of the
principle, or of the details of the-meafure they Ihould
have to propofe, but the day was not dillant when '
Inch an explanation Ihould be amply given, and
when reafons timid be adduced for having deferred
it till now. Indeed, on this very day it was expec-
ted that a notice would be given in another place, of
the introduction of the meafure to which the Noblel
Vilromrit had alluded.
Lord SUFFOLK intimated the necelEty of doing
now much more than had as yet been attempted, to-
wards the defence and fecurity of the country. He
bad obferved, with the greaten fatisfaCtion, that on
the part if the coati which he had lately vifited, the
fy Rem of the Martello Towers had been conliderably
increafed.
AMERICAN TRADE INDEMNITY BILL.
Lord BATHURST moved the order of the day,
for the fecond reading of the Bill to indemnify Mi
'lifters for continuing in force the p.m/if-ions of the
American Trade Bill, which had expired doting the
reed's. He argued the propriety of the meafure on
the ground of policy and precedent. He allowed
that the law had been violated by Mininers, but that
violation was juftified by the reafons of public ad-
vantage and benefit which reftilted from it, and
which Parliament had almnft uniformly received as
a fatisfaClory jollification of fuch a condat. Indeed,
were it not a violation of the law, why fhould the
Crown furrender its prerogative, and come to Parlia-
ment for a Bill of Indemnity, when it was obvious
no law had been infringed. He could fafely deny
that the rate of duties had been railed or diminithed
in any mates ial degree, or where it would have been
fafe to have acted otherwife. As to the allowing
American (hips to carry certain articles contrary to
the Navigation AO, that permillion was juttified by
the fame policy and neceffity ; fur it would have
been much to the detriment of•our trade, if American
!hips were on a fudelen prohibited to carry fuch arti•
cies, while there were no &it'll) (hips ready to convey
them. In every point of view he could not help
thinking that Government had acted wifely in con
tinuing the provifions of the Bill ; and he Ihould
therefore move, that the Bill to indemnify them for
lb doing be now read a fecond time.
Lord GRENVILLE was far from allowing that
the circumtlances under which the late Minitlers,
acted, afforded futticient reafon to junify their. con
duet in this refpeCt, and he fhatild therefore oppofe
any Bill to indemnify them. There were two prin-
ciples involv.td in this quetlion—by one it was held,
that there was no power in the" Crown to break
through a law : by the other it was maintained, that
the Crown had no power to raife money, without the
content of Parliament. Not only hal the Ertl, but the
fecond principle aifo had been violated by hlinitlers in
this proceeding. They might have advifed the Crown
to break the law ; yet they were not therefore autho-
riled to impcfe new duties not contented to by Parlia-
ment. The Papers laid this day on the table, proved
that the rates of duties had been railed on feveral
articles, for example, Bark, Indigo, &c. while no
content of Parliament had been obtained, either for
railing or reducing them. Nor was this all : they
had alto fufpended the Navigation MI, and allowed
American valets to carry articles, which that Aft
prohibited them from carrying, while the duties were
railed on them or reduced, at the pleafuie of the
Crown, without the cognizance and content of Par-
liament. And what was their plea for all thefe in-
fringements cf the law ?—Convenience. Now fhould
any thing (hurt of abfnlute necellity have jullified
filch concluft ? but where was that neceflity to be
found'—no where. The fa Et was, it tithed the put-
pofes of MiniQers to diffolve Parliament; a meafure,
• which under the than exilling circumtlances, he fhould
ever contend was a dangerous, a defperate, an un-
principled aft—and in the mean time the American
inter courfe Bill expired—here was the necellity. Could
fuch a plea juftify loch a conduct ?—Yet Minilters
were forward to juttify the diffolution on tire grounds
that were advanced in joftification of the dilfolution
in 1784 ; yet there was no comparifon whatever be-
tween the grounds of the two meafures. In 1784,
there was a manifeft breach between the two Houle&
of Parliament—a circumftance the molt critical and
perilous that could well be fuppofed poffible to arife,
and which afforded the ftrongell ground for an ap-
peal to the (cafe of the people, could any ground in
the lean firnilar to it be alledged for the la e diffola-
tion ?—No hing. Yet Minifters would let up that
neettlity a, a plea for their violating the law, and
tben cor"i g to Parliament for a Bill of Indemn ty.
As this w, s the g nuad they took to jullify th.m•
(elves, he bad a r 1 ht to argue it in its
utmoft lxti

tucle, and (hew the tuifcitiers with which it was preg
nant both at the time -they attempted it, and the
greater mifchiefs which were likely to flow from k
in the prefent far more perilous Rate of cheempire.r
The prefent increafe of our danger Parliament fbonld
inquire into, and the people fhould be acquainted
with ; nor thould that inquiry lead to defpontlency,
but, cn the contrary, route to exertion. •With-.
that view he entered upon it ; nor did he think• it
foreign to the prefent del-coition, the more after-
what had been that night obterved by a Noble
Vit'count (Sidmouth). What, ;Liked the Noble•
Lord, fhould be the flra object of a wife Govern.
ment, of a provident Legiflature, in the prefent Rate
and condition of the Empire ? Why, to promote
union and unanimity among' all elaffes and defcrip-
tions of his Majefly's flibjetts, For what avail arms
in the hands of a divided people! With what hope
is a military fyflem to be deviled, unlefs every indi •
vidual of every defcription be brought to ad- with
one mind—with one arm ! So indifpenfably need.-
fary at fuch a moment is this cordial concert and
co-operation, that without it every other meafure
mutt prove vain and nugatory; until that was
done, nothing was done. The prefent (late and
condition of Ireland was not only among our
principal confidcrations, but fliould immediately
form the principal object of the attenton and folici-
tude of Government. It was here chiefly that the
confequences of the diffolution were to he examined
and deplored ; and among them was the policy of
the pledge given againft the claims of the built Ca-
tholics ; a pledge than which never was any thing
more unwife, imprudent and impolitic. What did
it fay ? Why ; that tinder no circumllinces whatever
Ihould any further conceffion be ever made to that
large portion of the people, whatever might be the
(hape in which they might prefer their Petition. Such
Ihould not be the condition, and was not the condi-
tion of any people under any Government, not even
a defpotic Government; but furely not of a free
Government. But Parliament would, no doubt,
paufe and well weigh thefe matters, and the Noble
Lords oppofite him would no doubt recoiled, that
what had been refufed not only by one Parliament,
had been granted by another ; but that even what
was withheld during one Seffion, was conceded by
the next. - No doubt, prudence, wifdom. and expe-
rience, would guide the condud of that Houle under
the preterit arduous circumilances cf the country, as
hitherto they had been guided by thefe lights; and
furely never did any fo:mer moment mote ferioufly
admonith to confult them. They would alto have to
recoiled the opinion of that great flatefnaan. (Mr.
Pitt), whofe authority and memory mull be ever dear
to him, and who Oki not (brink from alluring his
Sovereign (how different that language from what
had (tore been heard from a Learned and Noble
Lord !) that the great meafure of the union was
impracticable, or that all his cleared efforts would
be trullrated, without an acquiefcence in the claims
of the It MI Catholics. He had troubled their Lord-
(hips thus much on this fubjeft ; his duty had im-
pelled him to it, but he was not likely to touch upon
it again, Gen knows when.
Lord HAWKESBURY was not anxious to de-
fend the Bill of indemnity on precedents only, but
on the grounds of the necellity of the cafe out of
which it grew. Nor would he deny that that need-
fity arofe trom the neceflity of the diffolution of Par-
liament ; for, as often as that topic fhould again be
forced into difcuflion, fo often Ihould he infift on the
abfolute neccffity of that meafure. The real authors
ci that necellity were the very perfons who have fince
fo repeatedly and fo acrimonioufly inveighed againft
it ; for when his Majelly, in the legitimate exercife of
his prerogative, thought proper to make the late
change in his Councils, the Noble Lords oppotile him
made an appeal to Parliament, and brought the quef-
tion to due between themfelves and their Sovereign.
What then was left to his Majefly, but to appeal to
the fenfe of his people, while the events which made
that appeal neceffary were Hill frefh in their recol-
ledion ? How elfe was his Royal prerogative to be
ftyported ? This is the fair, obvious, Pimple ground,
tyon which the late diffolution tells, and the refult
has amply proved how well his Majelly undedlood
the clifpofition of his people, in making that appeal.
For never was their fenfe more clearly, diftindly, and
uneytivocally exprefTed. No means were left 'in-
tried by the oppolers of Government, to procure the
fuUelt pollible attendance of their adherents in Par-
liament, at the beginning of the prefent feffion ; yet
the fentiments of the nation in favour of the Preroga-
tive, were pronounced in the fulleß Houle that ever
fat in deliberation, by the target and molt decided
major ity.—Among their Lordfhips, it met with the
fame loyal and triumphant fupport. Here then was
the necelfity and the propriety of the diffolution
proved at once in the molt marked and forcible man-
ner. He earneftly wifhed to let the queltion reli
here, but it was imp( flible to pals over in filence the
latter part of the Noble Baron's fpeech, to which
the former part ferved only as a lialking horfe.—
The deep regret he felt at fume of the fentiments
and expteffions that fell kom the Noble Baron,-he
was at a lots how to eiprefs-; but he was lure they
mu* have made nearly the fame impreflion upon
molt of their Lordthips. He was ready to believe
that the fame feeling and fentiment pervaded every
clafs and defcription of the community, and that
they all were difpofed to at with one heart and hand
•in tepport of the Contlitution, againft the attacks of
the molt formidable foe that they had ever to contend
with, and now made much more formidable by the
influence of recent events. Then what could be the
tendency of the Noble Baron's obfervations ? what
the effzd they were calculatedto produce? ( //greater.,
of hear, bear, from the Ofrpoftion fide of the
But where was the pradical good that could refult
from them ? Was it not well known how different
were the opinions entertained refpeding the chief
topic upon which the Noble Baron had fn widely,,
and, in his mind, Co unnecefTarily expatiated. Neither
could he be ignorant how very generally the opinion,
of the country had been expreffed upon that fobjedi
Where then was the utility of the recommendationl'
which the Noble Baron fo anxioully urged Masi,
there in pall experiences-was there in any profped,'
before us, the flighteft ground for confidering us a;'
divided people ? Even in *nee of the Catholics,
and in mere luftice to that refpedable body of men,
he would elk the Nub'e Baron, when were their ex-
I ertione wanted, if the threat of dau r,er required them
to put them forth ? Whatever the difference of opi-
nion they may beg intertaiped upo.i the other points,

were they ever backward, when the appearance of a
feleigetscnemy called f.r the zeal and aftivity
their fervices ? Whatever the deprivations 'under
which they fuffer, have-they not always confidered
them as profperity and luxury when compared with
the promifes and the boons by which the enemy
would endeavour to lettuce them ? Them-the repre-
fentations ride by the Noble Baron-are unfair, of
• any defeription of men who have uniformly manifeßed
filch a fpirit of loyalty and patrintifm.- It was-unfair-
furely to dcfcribe their conduit and principles in a
light that would jußify him in calling them-a divided
people. RefpeCting our internal policy, there tr4la
perhaps be difference of opinion—with regard to the
threats and attempts of a foreign enemy, we fhotild
always prove an united people ; thole who poffelfed
leall, aryitig with thofe who poffeffed molt. He mull
therefore again exprefs his furprife and regret at the
obfervatinns of the Noble Baron, the more fo, as
they now could be attended with no practical effect,
and when his own mind did not appear to be made
up refpeeting any practical remedy. The moment
called for univerfal unity of action, and under fuch
circuraftances as the prefent, he hoped to fee all party
fpirit and animofity turn into zeal for the common
defence.
Earl SPENCER. conceived the quellion to he tvhe-
ther the neceflity which it was admitted had occaliln •
ed the breach of the law, was forced on his Ma-
jelly's Minifters. or had been forced on by them ? The
Noble Lord oppofite had laid that his Majefir hav-
ing reafon to be diffatisfied with his former let vents,
had exercifed his undoubted prerogative in choofing
ethers in their Read, and that the old fervants of the
Crown had thereupon come to Parliament with a
Ratement of their cafe, thereby making an appeal to
Parliament on the differences which had occurred be•
tween them and their Sovereign, and that his Ma-
jelly had in thefe circumflances, been advifed to take
the fenfe of the people. A mote unfounded nr A
more erroneous flatement than this, the Noble tail
contended, had never been made, as mull be well
known to the Noble Lord ( Hawkelbury) himfelf.
The faa -was, that after certain confidential commu-
nications had taken place between his Majefly and his
late fervants, in confequence of which a change in
his Majelty's Councils had taken place, the new fcr-
vants of the Crown betraying the boa repofed in
them, had given garbled and unjuft reprefentations
in the newfpapers, and otherwife, of the conduit
of
their pr'edeceffors, and of the circumflances which
bad preceded their difmi(fal from office. In this Rate
of things a reprefentation of the aftual Rate of mat-
ters, and of the whole circumßances attendant on I
' them, became neceflary, to clear the charatters of the
late Minitters from the obloquy with which they
were thus unjuihly Untied. In making this Ratement,
they had been accufed of bringing their Sovereign
to the Bar of both Hodes of Parliament. Such a I
charge, however, they difclaimed. Their only with
was a vindication of their own charatler, and to
bring forward to the Bar of the Houfes of Parlia-
ment and of the country thofe perfons who had
given evil advice to their Sovereign. As to the po-
tic), of our conduit towards Ireland, it was not his
intention to inquire, as that had been already fo ably
difctiffed by his Noble Friend (Lord Grenville). But
if that part of the population of thefe kingdoms
really did poffefs the loyalty admitted by the No•
ble Lord (Hawkefbury), he could not help thinking
that they by no means experienced a correfponding
return. He was convinced the time mutt and would
come when the immunities now denied them would
be granted. At a feafon Ic perilous as the prefent,
we fhould look to every poffible means of Rrengthen-
ing our exertions t but it was impoffible that the Ca-
tholics in Ireland could feel the fame intereft in the
concerns of the country till they participated in all
the privileges of fellow fubjees.
Lord ERSKINE Paid, that it was a fundamental
principle of the Conflitution of this country, that
no act could be done contrary-to law, and for which
the perfons advifing it were at the fame time entitled
to be indemnified, if fuch breach of law was oc.
rationed by an act of imperious ncceffity. If this
was a cafe of the kind, GOD forbid that it (hould be
refilled for a moment. No man could quelion the
right of the King to difmifs his fervants, or to dii.
folve the Parliament. Thefe were undoubted pre-
rogatives, hut they were granted for very diftinet
purpofes. If his Majefly law teafon to queftion the
eonduet of his fervants, he might difmifs them ; or,
if he faw reafon to doubt the Parliament, he might
diffolve it, and take the fenfe of their Conflituents as
to their conduit. But the law never intended that
both of thefe Prerogatives fhottld be exercifed at one
and the fame time. and with reference t r each other. I
It was never in the contemplation of the C011(1411 1
tion of,this country, that Parliament Mould be dif-
folved limply to accommodate a change in Admini
firation.ol This would be to confider Parliament not
as econtroul on the conduit of Government, but
as an appendage to it, to be diffolved and changed
to fuit the different afpeets which it might affume.
The unjuflifiable tocafures which in the mean time
might be adopted, would, in fuch a view of the cafe,
be objets of little confederation to thole by whom
they were recommended. Having by the influence
of the Crown got a Parliament to their mind, they
had only to begin their career by an Ael of Indem-
nity for any meafure which they might have taken
againft law, and without necellity. The arrival of
Inch a period, he mutt confider as one pregnant with
danger. It might be very well to talk of appealing to
the fenfe of the people ; what would the community
think,however, when informed that there are a number
of Boroughs at the difpofal of the very perfons who
advifed this diffolution; and that there are others,
the property of, or influenced by a number of indi-
viduals, who, again, are under the influence of the
Crown? fo that fuccefs is in inch an appeal nest to
certain. But, Rill farther, when they law the feal
of indemnity ready prepared for thole who advifed
the meafure, mutt they not be of opinion that the
period was moll dangerous ? If any thing could add
to the peril of fuch a fituation, it was the Rate of
things at the prefent moment, fo awful, fo impute-
dented as it mutt be admitted to be. The only way
at loch a moment, to ;aura confidence and refpeft
from thepublie, was for the Government ro chew
itfelf prudent, and for Parliament to (hew itfelf in-
dependent. That Houfe multi do much to effeft
this objeft. No perfon could diffolve them. They
had it in their power by a tingle vote to cheek Inch
an evil. To ;aloft& at on the Crown and the
People; and to make themfelves beloved and elleem

ed, they had oily to fay, 4, You flia4 not, ;,) dim
ing the Houk of Commons, it& agaian Liao
had no foundation for diffolving Parliament, and we
will not grant you an indemnity."
The LORD CHANCELLOR maintained that
the proper quellion now before the Houfe was, whether
it was a right thing in Minifiers to advife his Majetly
to pals the Order in Council ? Though Ministers
might be blameable in advifing the diffulution of PAN
iftiritenyftill the-Htnife wastound to- give them in.
demnity fort the as now alluded to, if it could he
vindicated. •It war: not fair br a fide wind to come
at a queltiott which he, for one, was ready to dikufs
and to vindicate openly andlairly. Ler the Noble
Lord come forward with a (pedal no,tion chargehnd•
en the fobjeet of the diffolution of Parliam. n:, and
he firoold be ready to anfwer it. The Noble and
Learned Lord (Et Nine) while he admitted the ex.
tellence of the Britifh Connitution, did not feem in.
dined to wilt ei:her the eleaorstor the ele6led. *lt
was to that Houle, which could not be aff..ctej by
the diffolution, that he kennel to look. Thes could
not be diffolved; and from them his Lordthipfemzd
to expea a redrefs of all the evils he fuppoled to ex,
ill. He delired oldie Noble and Learned Lord to
look to the year 1806, when Parliament had been
formerly difTolved ; there had then been no 'unbar.
rxQing circumflances to render the diffolution necef-
fary—there had been no votes of either Houfe
which indicated a with to impede the meafures of
' Government—yet that Minifir y, of which the Noble
and Learned Lord (Erfkine) formed a part, had
chofen to advife a diffulution of Parliament. He
witted to know in what refpea the prelim Mini-
(tens were more to blame for having -recourfe to
loch a meafure, than the late Minifters had been
efteemed. The inquiry into which the tate Mini.
Hers had forced the two Houfes of Parliament,
he confidered the molt unconnitutional proceeding
in which that Houk had ever been engaged. 11,e
permiffion of his Majefty 'to bring firrward this
ftatement, fu far from mending the matter, made it
infinitely work. It was ufing his ttijeny's owes
pertniffion to drag him to the bar of Par liameno—
Such permiffion ought never to have been anted, and
'-never to have been ailed on. His Majefiy's conduit,
' however, had in confequence been made a fuhjea of
inquiry in both Houfes of Parliament, in a manner
which had never formerly been witneffed ; and no.
thing, he prefumed, could be more natural than, after
fetch a difcuffion, to ftiomir the fubjet to the fink of
the country, while the circuntaances were Ertl in
the recollection of the people. A firm and vigorous
Adtniniftration, it was admitted, was neceltary fir
the country. He had no hefitation in declaring it is
his opinion, that the {prefent was as firm and sigrr.
ous as the late Adminittration. It was his with to
render it as firm and rigorous as pollible ; and with
this view, he had no hefitation in acknowledging, that
he was probably one of the molt Orenuons advifera
of his Majefly to the dilTolution of Parliament. His
Lordfhip contended that fir far were the AOi of Pala
liament againit Roman Catholics, from being calm
laced to exclude them from the pale of the Brit&
Conftitution, the only way to fecure that Connitotios
both to them and to every other clafs of fuhje&s is
the country, was to maintain thefe Mts. Toleratioa
and power were very different. The Britifh Confii.
tution gave toleration to every dale of its fuhjeas ;
but the very nature of the thing rendered it needier,
that power fhould be veiled where it was moll eal•
culated to produce and to preferve the good of the
whole. If perfons who by refufing to qualify thew
felves for offices of power and troll, had Hill complete
toleration allowed them, they had the benefits of tie
Britifh Conflitation. With what confittency, how.
ever, he would afk, could the Noble Lord flop with
the officer( of the army and navy, why fhould not the
immunity extend to the lawyer alto, and to evety
officer in the Civil Government of the country ?
Granting all that the moll zealous friends to Catholic
emancipation could defire, he was convinced would
not produce unanimity in the country. At all events,
little would be gained if; in conciliating the Catholic',
Government fhould lofe the veneration of the Pro.
tenants.
Lord CARYSFORT deprecated the doarines of
the Learned Lord as molt extraordinary and daft.
gerons. He withed that both Hooks of Parliament
would let themfelves heartily at work on the belt
manner of receiving, into the bofom of the flare, ft
important a body as the Catholics. Adverting to
the Bill before the Houle, he obferved, that the only .
alleged neceffity for the order of Council. in which
it originated, was the diffolution of Parliament, and
by that diffolution to give to the new Adminifiratios
an appearance at lean of flrength. This was, inks!
opinion, a moil uncoonitutional neceffity.
Lord LIMERICK had vainly hoped that at foal
a moment as the prefent, all party fpirit would be
forgotten in the common exertions for the genend
intereft. He did not think the prefent period of
danger, one in which cenceifion (tumid be made is
the Catholics, who might apprehend, that thofe set
ceffions would be refumed when the danger flioali
ceafe to exit. The prefent Admininratioa had bast
accufed of having unconnitutionolly exereifod
theh-
fluence of the Crown in the late eiettir
to know what had been the conduct of
Adminittration in this refpea, and dv
effea on their interference in variot
empire, particularly in Wexford.
Lord HOLLAND declared, that
his friends were actuated by any feelin,
the prefent inflance. The fundamental
the Conftitution had been violated by
tiers money had beer. levied en the
the confent of Parliament, and this
fioned by a voluntary, unufual, and
ercife of the Royal prerogative. He
feverely on the doarines which had
by the Learned Lord on the avooll
termed molt unconnitutional and ca
dating his arguments by a reference
riodoof the Britifh hillory. He was
to the Church of England as any mi
that the Conflitution depended upon
ligion whatever. Had this country
before the reformation ? He rhoul
to the Catholics, that which they h:
-pea, was the op:), mode of laving
lamented that England fhould be al
tion, that retained prejudices which .
in every enlightened State.
Lord LIMERICK explained.
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