Star.
London, England, 1815-04-11 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr BIM°, Sir JAMES Gsailam, and Mr. BARCLAY, pre-
aeo•ed Petitions trona the Borough of Southwark, St. Martin's
in tue I irlds, the pat !sli of M.iry-la-bonne, St. Andrew's, Hol:iorn,
aed the W. sr division of Southwark. against the Pavitig Bit!
The time fur recognizance nn the Downpatrick Liection Pe-
ti inn, was enlarged Trout the 17th of this month to the lath of
The Cokhold Esta•e Bill MR read a first time, and ordered
to be read a second time on '1 hursday next.
1 he Pillory Abolition Bill was read a first time, and ordered
to he read a second time on Friday, and printed.
Mr. ROBINSON postponed till ibis day sennight the Com-
nlitter on the About on of the slave Trade.
.1 Ee False Measures' Bill was read a third time, and paced.
Mr. BENNE'T moved that the Committee on the King's Bench,
Fi it, and Marshalsra Prisons, have power to enquire into the
Jai now building in the city for the reception and sccommoda•
tlon of Debtors.
On Mr. serjeant ONSLOW's motion, the Liberty of the
Subject Bid was read a third tune, and passed.
.11,t Poor and Highway Return Bill was read a third time,
and Massed.
A Petition was presented from the Freeholders of the County
of File Tains' certain clauses In the Scotch Jury Court Bill.
Air. KINGS lON brought up copi:s of the proceedings of the
East ludic Court, relative to the salaries and pensions granted
by them.
General FERGUSSON presented a Petition from the Borough
of Kirkaldy against a clause in the ScJtch Jury 11111.

LATHIWP 14 1111 RAY.

Si; SAMUEL ROMILI.Y said, that the Secre-
tary of State having been so obliging as to inform
him, that the case of Lathrop Murray, which he had
some time ago brought before the House, was not
such as to call for the mercy of the Crown, he felt
it his duty to present the Petition of which he had
spoke() when he had first mentioned the business.—
He did not mean to blame the respectable Judge
who had passed the sentence, nor did be mean to
censure the Secretary of State. He vould slate the
case horn the Report of the Shorthinil•writeys: Mr.
Murray, who was an Officer, and had served in
Spain, was married in 1797, in Londonderry, in Ire-
land, to a Lady of the name of Marshall. He was
malted by a Dissenting Minister. Dr. Black, the
Clergyman who married him, had in his evidence
said that he was younger than the Lady, and that
be (Dr. Black) had seen him Coln Murray) but once
at a Dissenting Congi gation. Mr. Murray contract-
ed a second marriage with a Lady in London, in
1801, after he had been informed, as he said, by two
Civilians, that the first marriage was not valid by
law. There was no evidence that the second wife

was not fully apprised of the first marriage, nor even
was there sufficient proof that there was a second
marriage. He (Sir Samuel) mentioned the case on-
ly with a view to the apportionment of punishment.
Mr. Murray was sentenced to seven years transporta-
ti Dn. This was the severest punishment which could
be inflicted under tha most aggravated circumstances
for the crime of bigamy. But even allowing the first
marriage, and that there was full proof of the second
marriage, this was not a bigamy under those aggra-
vated circumstances. There was an affidavit from
the second wife, that she had been fully apprised of
the first marriage; and surely there was a wide dis-
tinction to be made between a man marrying a se-
cond wife, and previously informing her.that he bad
been married before, and a man marrying a second

wife and imposing himself miter as a single mut— '
An Honourable Member had said, that if Mr. Mur-
ray did not deserve his sentence for bigamy, be ds-
served it for swindling. But he (Sir Samuel) could,
not believe that the Secretary would proceed on sush-
a ground. It was against every principle of laws
that a person should suffer the punishment for one
crime, which he deserved for another. At any rate
there sturld be some enquiry into the reality of the
second crime home the punishment was inflicted.—
Mr. Murray was most anxious that there should be
every enquiry made into die charge of- swindling
agaiost him, in the ful confidence that the charge
would be found to be wrong. He (Sir Samuel)
did not mean to press the petition in any adverse
sense.; but lie thought that, at any rate, the House
should have the Recorder's report to the Secretary of
State, before them.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, that there
had been every consideration given to the case, and
that the Judge whc had passed the sentence, had
been consulted on it. Nothing had appeared to do
away the criminality of Murray, of whose character
he (the Solicitor-General) had never heard any thing
before, and on whci'm he should think himself un-
worthy the situation of a Barrister, did he wish to
inflict for one crime the punishment due for another.
He then went into a long proof that the first nest-
riage was every way legal-, as well as that the semis!
had been filly proved, and concluded by expressing
his opinion, that there was no good ground for es-
tending the mercy of the Crown to the petitioner.
Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY said, that he still
must think, that a very wide degree of punishment
was due to a man marrying a second wife and impo-
sing himself on her, as single, and a man who mar-
ried a second wife, but previously informed her that
he was married before. Mr. Murray was sentenced
to the punishment of a though his case was not
attended with any circumstance of—aggravation. He
had been brought up at an University, served in his
Majesty's service in Spain, and on his return had
hoped to participate in the common triumph of his
brave brothers hi arms. But somebody made out
this alleged bigamy against him, and brought it for-
ward, it may be thought, not from the best motives.
Sir Samuel then asked was there any objection to
having the Recorder's Report laiJ before the House ?
Mr. HILLY ADDINGTON said that every at-
tention had been given to this case, and that nothing
appeared to justify any mitigation of punishment.
The Petition WAS then read, and ordered to lie on
die table.
CONT!NENTAL AFFAIRS.

Mr. PONSONBY gave notice that he shoulJ, on
a future day, move for a copy of the instructions un-
der which Lora William Bentinck acted, not only in
Genoa, but in Sicily.

Mr. WHITBREAD said he should wish for an
Address to the Prince Regent, complaining of the de-
fective return of papers concerning Congress, in pur-
suance of the last Address. He then alluded to a
document respecting Saxony, which he had seen in a
newspaper of this day, and wh'ch lie said stood quite
unrivalled in the annals of diplomacy. He wished
to know whether it should b.: considered as genuine,
as it bad the Noble Lord's (Castlereagh) names° k
Lord CASTLE REAC;tI said that it was a trans-
lation of a translation, and di it at a proper moment
he would give every information on the subject, when
he hoped the House would find that there were no
improper sentiments in it. He apologised to the
House for having stilfeied himself to be drawn on to
give information bt.f ire it was perfectly advisable to
let it go forth. But he was obliged to it, to clear his
Majesty's Government and the Allies from the mis.
tatements and calumnies which the Hon. Gentleman
was in the continual hiehit of indulging himself against
them. Indeed the Hon. Gentleman seems to pride
himself on taking every occasion to endeavour to
drive into preen -tune disclosures ; but he should take
care that the Honourable Gentlem oi's attempts, la-
boured and incessant as they may be, should be vain
in future.
Mr. WHITBREAD defended himself from the
charge of perverting the rules of Parliament, in order
to throw calumnies on the different Governments of
Europe. What he had complained of in the present
instance, was the inadequacy of the return which had
been made to the Address of the House, and in sup-
port of that complaint he had stated that. it was im-
possible for him to suppose that no annexations had
taken place save that of Genoa, which latter the
Noble Lord had confessed in the papers that (as it
seemed against his will) he had laid on the table of
the House. As to Saxony, he should be satisfied if
he could hope that the Noble Lord would, at some
time, give them information which should let them
peep behind the scenes, and see *hat all the Noble
Plenipotentiaries (the Noble 1..0rd among the rest !)
had really been doing. Th.: Noble Lord had talked
against throwing suspicions on the conduct of the
Allied Powers. Why, what was the Noble Lord
himself about, when in die later whkh had that day
been published, and which he hid acknowledged to
be his, he spoke c f 44 the alarming and dangerous
pretensions of Russia ?" At the same time, how.:4d
ever, the Noble Lord, it appeared by that letter,
thought it perfectly consistent with political morality
to give up the whole of Saxony to Prussia. [Lord
Castlereagh ••••46 Quite the reverse.") Really it was
impossible, writing or speaking, distinctly to under.
stand the Noble Lord's meanii.g. If the Noble
Lord were permitted to withhold information from
the House on these important subjects, in what skim•
tion did they stand ? The Noble Lord was absent
from the country en confidence. He bad no instrue•
Lions. He was to be governed by his own discretion.
He was omnipotent. 64 He would not allow the ma.
chine to stand still while waiting for an impulse from
his own Government." Let the House look at the
letter of that day, and see bow the Noble Lord ex-
pressed himself. 44 I attach importance to such and
such a principle." 44 I conceive die King of Saxony
to have placed himself, by his acts, in a situation to
be fairly sacrificed to the tranquillity of Europe."---
is I shall not regrot making an example of one of the
German States ;" 44. I can have no hesitation to the
principle of the proposed arrangement ;" ss I have no
objecticn to confide Saxony to the provisional admi-
nistration of his Prussian Majesty," &c. kc. and yet
after all this assumption, and after the lapse of many
Imonths, the Noble Lord returns re infeeta, as far as re-
garded that House, having no communication
to make to it. He waits until a Member of Perlin-
ment, having in vain interrogated him, embodier his

questions in a motion, to which- modem he accedes,
and he then complains of perverting the ordinary
course of Parliamentary proceedings. The Noble
-Lord, he presumed, would have Parliament do
nothing but vote money. He expected a continu-
ance of the confidence of the public after the letter
which had that day appeared, which, it seemed,
was a translation of a translation. He should like to
know in.what language it was originally composed.
[Lord CAhTLEREACIIit el In English. I—ln1—In English!
He thought the Noble Lord must himself, have been
the translator, for really it. was very like his style—it
might be put by the side of the Genoese communica-
tions. The Noble Lord declared that he would not
be diverted from his course, neither would he (Mr.
Whitbread) be diverted from his course. As the
Noble Lord would use the privileges of the Horne
for defence, so he (Mr. Whitbread) would use them
for offence against those who appeared to him to mis-
conduct themselves in pablic situations; and this the
more especially when a motion was about to be made
tor flu. Speaker's leaving the Chair, for the purpose
of enabling the House, in a Committee of Supply,
to vote 020,000,000 of Army Extraordinaries, in-
cluding large sums to Foreign Powers. It was no
abuse of the privileges of Parliament, to inquire into
public affairs. The Noble Lord said, is wait till the

Papers are before the House." Did he mean to give
them t It happened fortunately enough that the
veil which the Noble Lord was anxious to keep over'
certain transactions, was some how or other removed.
This was instanced in the publication of the letter of
that day. Another celebrated instance was the pub-
lication, by the American Government, of the nego.
ciations which were at that time pending with Great
Britain, to which publication was probably owing
the termination of the war with the United States.—
There would, indeed, be little controul over the ex-
ercise of the power of congregated Monarch,, were
it not for the voice of public opinion ; and highly,
therefore, to be desired were all communications by
which the pubic were informed with respect to the
proceedings of Governments. The Noble Lo: d, and
Prince Talleyrand, and Prince Hardeuberg, and the
other Princes, seemed to treat each other much more
folly than they did the WOI U. There had now been
an attack and a connter-att Ick between him and the
N ible Lord. Tin: Noble Lord might Jo as he pleased;
for 'himself he should pursue, undeviatingiy, the
course which he had hithotto preset i!:ed to himself.
Lord cAsTLEREAGH said he was fully sen-
sible that rm attempt on his part, however earne or
however just, could divert the Hon. Gentleman from
pursuing that course of calumniating his Majesty's
Government and our Allies. But he was addressing
A House, to which he knew reason would not be
urged in vain, though it may elsewhere ; and he
should be guided in future by his sense of the public
interest, without paying any regard to the improper
questions of the Hon. Gentleman, who he knew took
A delight in asking premature information, because
he knew he could make out c;:lumni:s and chuges
better from imperfect docummts than horn any
others. But in future, if the lion. GA:de:flan poi.
sued his usual miparliamentary course, he may ask as
many questions as he pleased, and nut have any an-
swcred.

Mr. W ITBREAD then move..l, that tl.c late
Address to the Prince R....gent should be re.td, W.tich
ve:is done till the Clerk came to the part " as mad• be

laid before the House without prkjotlice to the public
interest," when, amidst loud checi lag flout the Ti ea-
sury Benches. the Honourable Gcatleman (Mr.
Whitbread) sat down.
Lord CASTLEREAGH asked Mr. Ponsonby
across the table what papers he would move 1)r ?
Mr. PONSONBY said, that he would more in
the first instance for papers.respecting Genoa.
The further consideration of the County Rates
Bill was postponed till Wednesday next.
Sin J. MAC KINTOSIi gave notice, that he should
on to-morrow (Tuesday) se nnight move for Papers
respecting the late declarations of the Allied rowels.

CUMNIFITEE OF SUPPLY.

The House h-ving re)ulved itself into a Commit.
tee of Supply ;

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
observed, that it would b: necessary for him to enter
into a tew explanations, lest sem:: of the sums in-
cluded in the am,!unt he was about to move for,
might not be sufficiently clear in the accounts before
the House; but he should trespass upon the time of
the House as little as possible. From the accntints
in question i: would be seen that the amount of the
Treasury Bills that had be.n issued for the A. my
Ethaordinaries fOr 181 E was very considerable; but
he trusted that when the arrangements which had
been in that year for the public advantage were con-
sidered, that the expellees would he admitted to be
indispensable. Them was this dill:mice in the ac-
counts•for the last and former years, that instead of
the Bills for the Army Extraord;t:•tries being drawn
both by the Pa) master-General and the Commissary-
General, the whole of them had been drawn by the
latter, and paid over to the former. Thus tipitigh
the amount appeared much larger than when the
imens were drawn for by different persons, the total
o as not more than if the former system had been
adopted, while the public service was benefited by
the change. The total amount drawn Ix On the
Treasury for the service of the year 1811, was
020,931,826, which included 45,000,000 that had
been paid over to other departments and for distinct
purposes. The whole amount, therefore, of the
Army Eztraordinaries was £15,931,0® and up-
wards ; which exceeded the amount of the preceding
year by about A'600,000. If this excess were thought
considerable, he could only entreat the House to re-
collect 'the extraordinary circumstances of the time.
In the course of the last year, and even after the
peace, it was not only necessary to continue our esta-
blishments to their full extent, but also to make pro.
vision f* the payment of arrears which bad occur-
, red long before, and of which it had not been
possi-
bk at that period to get accounts. Of the bills that
had been drawn, a considerable part of the amount
was for foreign subsidies, which our liberality had
granted to the Allies, and which had produced such
great results. It was also satisfactory to him4to be
able to state, that there was not any sum, except
*bout 4150,000, but what had arisen out of the
items already recognized by Parliament. This sum
was one which, under more favourable circumstan-
ces than the present, was granted to the King of
Francs, to enable him to return to his Kingdom, and
it was included in the amount drawn for by the Coto-1

missary-Ceneral. The total amount of the Bill
draws in 1813, was 417,780,000, which was re
duced by sums applied lo other military and nayy
services by about A 5,400,000, so that 2,300,0 w) r,
'twined for the purposes of the Army Extraordinar:c ;
In the year 1814, the total amount of Bills drawn w
£15,590,0Q0, from which, when the sums for the sif
sidies,ice.were substracteMl ere remained 4I 2,900,01 t
for the Army Estraordiliaries. The first head of tI t
accounts .ost the table contained tls lie h.
td
whole d ofbe fun
obsebillsrvelPaid. amounted
dbytile
to
Treasury,
which, a
neatly 21 millions. The
text general head was for the conveyance of officer.
to foreign stations.. Another head was for tl.e con-
veyance of specie, for which service it was customary
tin allow the Commanders of ships of War oie half
per cent. to answer for anysAiglit embezzle meta that
might Occur, .and to pay fur insurance. min)
eases Lad occurred in which emb. ash:call s had
been made. which it bad not been in the of
the officers to prevent. There was another beau tA
extra pay to officers on foreign se: vice ; and the ac-
count was closed with the heads of the excess of tl.e
grants for the Commissary in Chit f :old the St,,:e.
keeper-General ; the first of which amounted to
C 4,05,000 and the latter to £C16‘,640. The am:fmt
voted for the Commissary in Chief meo.ly for :he
services in his department toward: the close of !ast
yet was £3,000,000, yet the amount of the tm
diture was e::),1-7s;,000. So that the actual exrtete
had somewhat exceeded• the vote, and was aeon(
4200,000 shorts of the catin7.ttc, though larger ts..ci
the sum voted by including all the par-
chases of stores. The House was aware, that wait
the Commissary-Gener.:l's 1) parts:le:it rested all
means of procuring tho)e great supplies which ..verc
necessary fur our miiitary service abioad. Althoe7!i,
therefore, there was an excess in the branch of
Commissariat, yet if the articles which caused it lal
been raised by the Commissary-General, ~I.ey
must have been raised by some (Alm aims; ai;il by
those which had been adopted last year, of phciii;l
the whole accounts to the charge of the Cartunis,zi;
in Chief, he was confident the public Seriiite Isej
been advantaged. The amount of this sum ,01 y
raised by the Commissary• General esc.e..fed
millions, and the sum of about st10,00“,0;io
through his hands in the coarse of the la.: yt.ii.
wt. n the House recollected the importance .e.. 1 :-
tore of the war carried ou in the l'en -,suss., ..1 . I !e
espences with width it was necessat ily attended :.e:a
the extreme difficulty of poetising supplies, ti atsi.
ness of the rotd,, and stations oostact.s
Commissariat had to encounter, they would cca, :c
teon,ler at the exp.:ncls of this bianch of setiL!.
rhe great Commander, who had CciiilJCled
in that country, had, by his energies and coic•-,;.ii,
been able to solve a paradox which nobody Liiire
him could understand. It had been said, Li tti A
great army was to eater Spain, it must be surr...:
And that a small one must be defeated. But he
led a large army to victory, by procuring for
Itae supplies that were necessary, in a country e:i..
had appeared to be totally incapable of alto; d
them. Thu House were now called :.n to male g
the winding up of the sum that had thus arisen.
la past of oils.ch ters.:4;ood to I. liree.4l. A I
Hon. Coral:man opposite had, on a fluter occ,i,en,
asked him a question rcsrctitig the aniunat of tit
Extraottlinariei incurred si-ce the end of tea yt.ir.
He had wished to know what was tha amouat ut t
Army Extraordinaries which had been pad sine ta
close of 1814? 'rile amotri.ti was, after
iroln it Certain items, 42,200000 M the tout se or ex
last duce morm.s. The deductions were, the st:m
for the ordinary services, and the Bills paid
Allies. whole issue amounted to
of which ar2,200,000 were properly b;•loti, to t:!
Army Extraordinaries. There was a pay,, ,
making on aextrut of the army in
the raw of a million of th liars per moo
whole of which account w.,uid be wow,

six tno:lths, the Amount remained to

beim alicitlL six millious of doll4ls. Oa the

he might st.tt.: that the bum requ.re4 f the
sdi wiry expellees of the arm), from the 2
D..cember. 1813, to the 21. th of December Ist

elusive, would not exceed reS,USS,4:33
which he should proceed to maim.
Mr. "VIERNEY wished to know if the uht..'t
counts ler the year were made up ?
The CHANCELLOIt of Lie EXCIIEQ't
an,w,,ted that it .0 AS impostille to inciu.ie ill
i 1 a expellees of tltu Aftitricitil contest. Malt)
bid name in (ruin America biIICC lhC ACCOsitab

made out; but it .opi,cated, that including b
ciedil, theme would be about two wiliivus Aid .1

to discharge, but which were already provice
In Luther reply to two or three brief
Mr. 'ricrac), v.e uiJetstia►J the Itista Hun G'
ni.in to say, 111.4 the Amount tsould j surcrrd

t.l ►he :limy Extr.torini.tries for the peseta y••. 1
Mr. TIER NLY tRn asked if it ss•.a to 0.. ti;
,t')t►d, that ...uw►ld be no f.utl►er

public LH' the CS Of the 0111)
'Chu CILINCLELUit of the LX.:.:111:0:
repPech much nt that sum as !Ltd

red before the 125th of M och must be nu& goi
lie , r,:sumt-d, V"lt about three mitilous

paid in the prestAit year, which might proh.d,
f•iund to be!ong to services that had al! cady uccu
1-I, shou!d, thinecre, plopose to LAW a VOW lot .
ill ns altogeth.:r.
Ur. TIERNLY—Tfen three millions rem.
to be about bed in disiba {in}; deb incurred in
course of last year. He would wish to know
is the amount of the deot previaus to the Itit •11
comber, 1811, which reimitts to be pa;cl fie
only anzi)us to know what situ had actualiy
provided for, towards the total winding up of tut
year's accounts, and particularly as to what re.
to the war with AtlleriCil ?
The CHANCELLOit of the EXCHEQU
said, he should not enter into any state:ma, ..1
sent respecting what would be the amount ot
winding up of the accounts of the wai with Amer'
but he did not foresee that there would be any area
on this subject, because the money had been
as it was required. In sii.taki,ig of the three unlit
he must be understood to speak of Army Extra.'
naries in the true sense of the word. But we ...ere
able to ascertain at present how the balance will
Mr. TIERNEY declared he was satisfied that
discussion on this point was a mere waste of nor
The total sum that the House was called on to

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