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London, England, 1831-08-17 00:00:00

Lord ALTHORP said that the object of the 24th

clause was to take in the parishes of the neighbourhood of
Leicester.
After a few observations from Mr. WARBURTON,
Mr. BRISCOE begged to ask whether the slaves be-
longing to the Clown in the West Indies were to be
emancipated ?
Lord A LTHORP said that orders had been sent out to
email paAteLtTheßCOroßwP, n nSiiaves.reply to the Marquis of Chandos,
said it was not the intention of government to bring any
measure before parliament this session, respecting the West
India Colonies.

rotaass
Colonel EVANS rise to submit a motion respecting the
neutrality to he observed towards Poland, and said bar an
interference had taken place on the part of Prussia, which
was unfair towards Poland, and by which, disrespect had
been shown to British vessels conveying merchandise to the
Poles. Ile thought that at least neutrality ought to be ob-
served towards Poland, because in 1815 the abject of the
three Powers, England, Austria, and Prussia, was to make
Poland a complete kingdom, to serve as a birder against the
power of Russia. Tnis was the object of Englam, and as-
sented to by Austria and Prussia; Russia, however,
objected to any other arranttement than an annexation of
Poland to Russia; (hese, tear, hear) the latter country
agreeing to give to Poland a free constitution, and
a complete nationality of power. The bon. Immix: read
the charter, (vim which i: appeared that no Russian
troops were to
go into Poland unless with the consent of
Poland, nor were the Polish troops to he marched out of Po-
land unless with the same consent. The press was to be free
no taxes were so tic raised but by the Diet, &c. No one of
these provisions of the charter were adhered to by Russia ;
indeed, personal liberty was ccmpletely disregarded. It
was this disregard to her comments manifested by Rus-
sia that caused Poland to adopt the last alternative, nwmely,
having tccoorse to arms. livery war that 'ltissia has iieen
engag,el io for these las. 100 years has terminated by an
accessioo of powo. av :I particularly in 1815. It was the
Russian Cabinet the. arami at. Austrian Government to put
down the imottree.i-n in Italy. end it was the Russian
Cabin, t that urged .1-a Fcetsfit Government to invert: Spain.
The war that ra4ed in•Pohtod was :t war against lii,erty.
(Hear.) He tistingit. thst it,e remarks of the Frost:, 51inis-
was in th. Chan:her of Deputies, were trade in ,:efence,
and wi it a view to !noire she IliMstry; bu: the /Una
natio!' en Ts taired fedi ri4s,s.rd sy sop ash ed with the
Poles. It wt.% imroasrole die Russia could have main.
tatted her armies in Poland without the assistance of Prus-
sia. The itussiars had passed thc Vts,uta, and were nro.
tected in their rear by Prussia. He concluded by myths,
for certain paper" connected with the affairs of Russia and
Poland.

Lehi PAI,3IENSTON said that although he could not
consent to the merlon of the gallant member, he could not
avoid expressin•• ids regret at the war that Fended between
Rustle and Poland. He could not enter into the particulars
of the occasion of the war, or into the affairs of other states.
He trusted that his conduct on this occasion might no. be
construed into any diarespezt for the hon. member. in not
entering into the stmt ject at length. He trusted that the gal-
lant member wt uhl not press his motion.
M. 111.731 E said that be would be sorry to ask for any
information that would embarrass the government, but he
thought it was a emestion that was entitled to the considera-
tion of the mi..isters. It was foe duty of this country to FCC
that the treaties of 1313 were aZhered to. There was no :Mt
of the late Lord Castlereagh's conduct that entitled him to so
much ercdf., us hie lordship's efforts in 1815 to obtain for
the Poles a constitution,the basis of which was decided upon
at the Cnngms, end Mice violated by the Russians. He
thought that the answer. or rather the no answer, of the
noble lead. was very unsatisfactory.
Jam I l'A LMLRSTON said that the Government would
not avoid enforcing any treaties to which they were a
party. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. D. BROWNE expressed his surprise at the apathy
evinced by the house during the obsei unions of the gallant
mover, but hoped, under the circumstances, that the motion
would be withdrawn. _ _ _

After a few words from Mr. O'Cowstm.t. and Colonel
EVANS, the motion wss withdrawn.

REFORM.

On the question helps put that the house resolve itself
into a Committee upon the Reform Bill,
Mr. HUIIIE said that he was not desirous to protract the
passing of the Reform Bill, but he felt it his duty to sug-
gest that the colonies should be represented in the Ihitish
parliament. The East Indies and the thirty-four colonies,
including Canada, possessed a population and wealth that
fully entitled those interests to be represented until they were
placed in a situation to manap their own affairs. Nee had
four classes of colonies : the East Indies, the West Indies,
the Canada% and those places that were goverred by the
King in counciL He admitted that by statute law it was not
in the power of the House to interfere with these colonies that
had Legislative Assemblies, excel): in certain cases. He
would give to the Crown colonies a larger proportion than
those that enjoyed Legislative Assemblies. Ile thought
that those colonies ought to be represented to protect 1
their interests, and that the House ought to be placed
in the beet situation to legislate upon those distant rights.
It was alleged that when the Reform Bill passed, pawns
connected with the colonial interests would not he able to
obtain seats in that House, and he would suggest that those
colonies should be directly represented. He did not mean
to add to the representatives. By the present measure a
decrease of 32 members would take place, and he would
propose that is of those members should be granted to re-
present the colonial interest (hear.) He would grant four
members to the East Indies, eight members to the Crown
Colonies, three members to British North America, three
members to the West Indies, and one member to Guernsey,
Jersey, and Alderney. By this arrangement the interests of
those plates would be protected, and the Reform Bill ren-
dered more satisfactory and complete. The situation, wealth,
population, and trade of British North America strongly
called for attention. The Crown Colonies possessed a
great population, and carried on au extensive commerce
with this country. It was unnecessary fez him to at-
tempt to point out the importance of India (hear.)
The hon. member went through a variety of details to prove
the necessity of granting representatives to those colonies. He
suggested that the four members for India should be elected
by every man who was competent to sit upon Juries; by
adopting this plan, a constituency was already made.—
The West Indies, Ceylon, tile Mauritius, the Cape of Good
Hope, New South %Vales, and Gibraltar, possessed the
material to form a most respectable constituency from the
white population in chest: places. lie was assured upon the
best .tuthority. that there could Le no difficulty in creating
a loos. respectable constituency. Ile trusted that the house
should yield to this proposition, which would prove very
serviceable to the country and to the colonies. Tile ho-
nourable member then enumerated the population of those
places to which he was disposed to grant representatives.
He proposed that the islands should elect their rzresen-
tatives as they were elected in the Scotch burghs. Hear,)
lie thought shat British North America was well entitled to
be represented in the British parliament. There was one point
to be decided : how were the members to find their war to
that home (laughter.) He suggested three ways. Heat,
that the members should be elected absolutely for three years;
secondly, that the members should be considered members
until the return of the writs; thirdly, that the Speaker, as in
• ordinary eases, should issue his writ, and that the places
should be vacant until the return of the writ, which might
take place in six or twelve months, but then the colonies
would not be worse or than they were at present. He thanked
the house fur their attention, and thought that if the subject
was considered by his Majesty's Government, or referred to
a committee, peat good might arise from it. He thought
that this wu a proper time to consider the subject. He moved
that instructions be given to the committee to make provision
to represent the colonies.
Mr. LABOUCHEItE said that he would listen to any
motion that would lead to measures that would cement the
colonies to this country. But he did not think that the
scheme of the Hon. Member was practicable, and that lithe
colonies were represented by twenty Members, that they
would form a little knot. and unite upon all questions ?slat-
ing to the colonies, and feel regardless of all other interests.
Such a party in that house would always be sure to yield to
Moisten for some colonial advantage. (Cheers.) He trusted
that some better system would be adopted to protect the in.
tacos of the colonies. He did not believe that the colonial
interests would suffer in a reformed House of Commons. He
thought that there would always be found persons who
would see the advantage to the country in protecting the co-
lonial interest. He thought that it was worthy of considers.
don, if it would not be wise, to allow the monied interest to
return Members to Parliament, and that every person who
had 1,0001. in the funds should have a vote. llama a plan
was adopted, he thought that in that manner the colonial In-
terests might be represented.
Mr. K. DOUGLAS deplored the polity of his Majesty's
ministers, in depriving the colonial interests of the power to
protect their interests its that House.
Lord ALTHORP said that it was Impossible to entertain
the plan of the hon. n:ember, which was quite impracticable.

He could anted believe that his hon. friend was serious in
moving s to the Committee upon such a point.
He tread that tbs House would not enter into a discussion
span the
Sk J. 1111.1t01.111d conceived that the subject vas end-
ded Waiimilderation. India should have representatives in
that bases, to give them the best information respecting
that maw; particularly as the reform bill took away
every ',verbosity of persons connected with that interest of
havkw mete in the house. Without pledging himself to
the detaW, he would support the motion fee giving rem-
sentatives to the colonies. Unless the noble, lord gave his
attention to the subject. with a view to have the colonial
interest represented in that house, be was satisfied that
there would be a great want of useful information. Though
the East India Company were under sufficient checks, still
It would not supersede the necessity of having persone in
that house who could give information respecting the go-
vernment in India. He hoped in Lied that the "present
ministers would continue long in their places. This he
wished on account e f India, because the frequent changes
in the Atlntinistration of this country were highly detri.
mental to India. He had no doubt but as soon as the re-
form bill passed, hit blejtsty's mini, tors would give due
attention to the proposition of the member for Middlesex.
He would prefer to support the interest of 100 millions of
men to any local interest.
Sir G. STAUNTON supported die proposition. It was
stated rot many nights ego, that the Nabob of Arcot had
representatives in that house sonic years ago. If that was
:he case, what difficulty could there be in having any foreign
interest renresented ? If Manchester and other great towns
returned members who resided at a distmce from them to
represent their interests, why could not the colonies do the
same ? It could not be said that m:mbere r„pre•:ntinA the
colonies would have no identity of interest with this country,
for no man could alt in that house who had not property to
the amount of three hoodood pounds a-ye.r in this country.
Sir C. WETHEIt ELL oeserved that those who were
represented as enemies of reform, could no longer be
considered at; e! e only persons who Immured &Ler-bons in
the hill; for the advocates foe the measure heel already
proposed more alteration* thao the enemies of it. The
noble lord, the member for NJ.thamptonshire' bad, the
other ntg!,t, ptroposed a materiel eherstion, and the mem-
ber tin Middlesex hail pronoeed a sweeplog one to-night.
Cogent as he must admit tile arguments of the honourable
member for bidlesex to be, he (Sir Charles) could not
agree with him in introducing so extraordinary an inno-
vation in the constitution, as to hare tneuthers for other
countr:es sitting among them. But the arguments of the
member for Middlesex went to shew the policy of con-
tinning the representative system in its ',resent state, as the
colonies would thereby have an opportunity of being indi-
rectly tepreserned. Ile would maintain that the colonies
should be represepted in that house, for the legislature of
this country did indirectly legislate for the colonies and im-
pose taxes on them. Asa proof of this he would Instance
the duties on Cape Wines and Canadian timber. There
had always been in this house six or seven members who
gave information respectio•,; the West India colonies, and as
many who attended to the Interests of the East Indies; but
now the opportunity of having such members was taken
away, in order to give Greenwich members to take ears of
her white bait. Now he thought that this reform bill was
totteting to pieces; every page of it that was opened aboun-
ded with levities and inconsistencies. The hon. and learned
'-timber then referred to the old Roman custom of chewing
die colonies which they had subdued to send members
,o the senate to represent them, observing there was great diffi-
culty in carrying that cbjeet into effect, and the consequence
was that it was dcsisted from. With regard to the ptopool of
the Hon. Member for Middlesex, he would sty that it
would be almost impracticable, and though he (Sir Charles)
could not support h, still he would maintain that it was se-
ctssary fur the. interests of .he Colonies that they should
have representatives in that House. He agreed with the
Noble Lord (Althorp) that this proposition would not be
favourable to the Bill. lie (Sir Charles) cared not about
that. He cared not whether it was favourable to this new
Constitution or not, that was a question fur the advo-
cates of the Bill, not for its enemies. He did not doubt
but that the Member for Middlesex was sincere, but he
was convinced that he would never succeed in carrying
the measure which he proposed. He felt sure that the
Honourable Member would bring forward the subject on a
more favourable occasion. He never heard a more able speech
front the Hon. Member than on the present occasion.—
(Laughter.)—He was mire that the Hon. Member had be.
stowed great pains on the subject, and had the assistance of
others in conjunction with his own, which showed that he
was in earnest, and would not let the subject drop here.
Now, in considering how the colonies could have represen-
tatives in that House, he did not see bow it cord" be done
except they sent delegates out of their own representative
bodies. He saw so much difficulty in it altogether, that he
could not give his consent to it. The enemies of the bill
were told often by laymen and aldermen (laughter), to watch
the signs of the times, not to be factious, or throw obstacles
in the way of the bill% but what enemy of the bill intro.
ducted a greater obstacle, or a greater anomaly, than the Hon.
Member for Middlesex had done ?
llr. BURGE conceived it by so means impracticable
to have representatives front the colonies in that house,
thou,th Mr. Burke was of a different opinion. Yet it vu
once proposed by the government of North America, when
commissioners were sent there from this colony to Neon-
elle some differences which existed between them and us. It
was said that such representatives would coalesce, and be
united on every subject ; but he would ask did :hose who
indirectly represented the colonies in this howsoever coalesce,
or appear united on any question ? It was absolutely neces-
sary that the colonial interests should be rcpr seated in that
house, and how could that be, if this bill passed, unless some
provision was expressly made for that ? We owe the
greatest part of our venial and sp r these colon
there interest should therefore not be neglected. There could
not he a more severs censure on the Reform Bill than the
statement of the meruher foe Middlesex, 'watch clearly
showed that some of the most important interests of the cm-
pier would thereby cease to be represented in that house.
Sir C. FORBES felt very grateful to the hon. member
for Middlesex for die pains which he had taken respecting
this subject. It would be consolatory to the colonial in.
musts to reflect that, even if they should be deprived of
an opportunity of being represented in that house by the
passing of the Reform Cill, (which he hoped would never
occur.) still they would not be without friends in that
house, while the member for Middlesex had a seat in h.

Sir' G. MURRAY was happy to perceive that the house
had given much attention to this disc-union. It speared to
him that. during the discussioo on the Reform Bill, they
forgot that the British empire was not moaned to our do-
mestic dominions. It was satisfactorily proved by ho.
pourable members that there was no provision made
for tt'a colonial interests in this bill, but on the con mry,
that they would not have the same influence in tha‘ house
which die:- had hitherto. He was of opinion that to remedy
that evil, (for an evil he must consider it to be,) something
like that proposed by the Hon. Member for Middlesex
should be done. What the precise measure should be, he
would not take upon himself to say. He would tell the
House, that when they had passed the Reform Bill, they
would by no means have made provisions for every part of
this Empire. The Noble Lord (Althorp) had stated that
such proposals as this would be hostile to the reform bill,
but surely the noble Lord would not my that the members
for Middlesex and Taunton were enemies to reform. The
fact was, they saw those defects in the reform bill, and
they endeavoured to remedy them.
Lord ALTHORP, in stating that such proposals would
be hostile to the reform bill, meant that they would con-
tribute to delay it.
lilt. HUMR Welly replied.
The motion was then put, and negatived.
On the motion that the House resolve itself Into a Com-
mittee on the Reform Bill,
Mr. H. HUGHES gave notice that, on bringing up the
report, he should move that all words relating to the division
of counties should be left out.
The House then went into Committee.
On the motion that the Isle of Wight send one member,
pursuant to the 14th clause,
Mr. H. HUGHES said that the population, of the Isle
of Wight amounted to 36,000. The county of Rutland
had only a population of 18,417, yet it sent two members
to parliament ; why then should not the We of Wight send
two members. He concluded by moving as an amend-
ment, that the blank in the clause be filled up with the
word "two."
Mr. H. GURNEY sumrted the amendment.
Lewd ALT HORP could not agree with the hon. mem-
ber, that the freeholders were placed in a worse situation by
this bill than they were now in. On the contrary, he thought
that they gained a coasidenible having one
member to themselves, instead of merelyvotingoe two mem.
bees fee Hampshire.
Sir G. CLERK mid that the only object of giving a
member to the Isle of Wight, was to give five members
to Hampshire. There were other counties that deserved a
larger number of members, and yet they did not get them.

Why, he asked, was Hart to be thus favoured % tie
was informed that one particular interest would predentitre
In the Isle of Wight. What right had it over the I I •5 : ..t
Man, which was not to have a member?
Mr. CARTER said it was always understood that t;
Isle of Wight was a separate district from SouthaniteL:
and therefore that might be a good reason for his klajemt-.
ministers giving a member to that place.
After a few words from an Ron. Member,
Lord MILTON thought that the reason given by ti:
boa. member (Mr. Carter) was a very good one, and tut.
(dent to justify his Majesty's ministers to give a member tu
the Isle of Wight. The case of the Isle of Man was Suitt
different, heels**, although that Island was connected *lt!.
the British Crown, yet It was not taxed by England.
After a few words from Sir O. WA RRENDER and Mt.
DUNDAS,____

Lord ALTHORP said, that the ttuon for giving a mem.
bee to the isle of Wight rested upon it geographical grouni:.
Hampshire was a county totally distinct from the Isle of
Wight, and, therefore, giving a member to that inland eat
not adding to the members for Hampshire. He denied that
there would be any particular Interest predominant in the
Isle of Wight.
Mr. CHOKER complained of the manner in which Inez.
ben were given to particular counties, while ethers tiLt
were larger, and had a greater number of inhabitants, tree
not to get an addition to their uembers.
After a few words from Sir G. Clerk. Lord Milton, S.r
J. AI. Sl'Donnell, Mr. Croker, Sir R. Inglis, Mr. C. IV.
ham, Mr. Pints, and Mr. Knight,
Lord ALTHORP .aid that the Governor of the Isle t:
Wier was die alicritrof the place.
r. HUNT said that Hampshire was always eonside:e:
a Government county. He, however, had no objection I •
giving a member to the Isle of Wight, because he kl.Jagh,
that toot member would be an independent man. He con:.
plained of the amendinews constantly brought &rand by
the friends of the bill. He was denounced when he spoke
his mird on the bill. Loo k a. the Times:newspaper, ebi,h
at Sm aevott!cd the bill, the whole bill, and nothing but
.he bill ; (Peat) but now it was laying it on the back
of th• noble lo d. the member for Nonhampton, on account
of .be clerse dative to the diction of the counties. (Hear.)
He was for lilting eerie gentlemen et: ladles at ,Ice bar of
the House. (A lanai' and cries of bear.) The Tines was
calling 'or county ow tinge to oppose the dame respecting
the divisiou of tise coualles. But the power of the Times
had gone by ; it could not ga t.ll even a Common Hell.
(Hear.) rola papa was oonstcutly attacking the members
of this House, and overatt log Its decisions. For any attack
upon he did nut care. Ha thought if the diactusiou
upon Oe Reform Bill had been carried on with closed doors,
It would have been for the advantage uf the people, for th,
proceedings of the House were misrepresented.
Mr. U. UW. 11AIIVRY rose to order.

Tiu CUAIMAJO de:ld.(l .'Va. there was no question before
the t.eme respecting the Times newspaper.
M.-. I/ UNT Lon:creed o make further observations, and
co/wind:a *.:y voyieg that Fe would support the 'notion be.
fora ate house.

Arta a few observations from Mr. Ctozza, Colonel
Siarrnonr, and Mr. BARING,
Lord ALTHORP, in reply to the latter hon. member,
said that tIL. Governor of the Isle of Wight was like the
Covet nor of the county of Wes moteland, he was High She.
riff by virtue of his other office.
Mr. H. HUGHES replied.
After a few remarks from LordtirozatowT, Mr. CROZER,
Mr. G. LAUOLITON, and Mr. Huns.,
In ai.swer to a question from Mr. Kamm?,
Lori A LTHOR P acid that neither the present governor
of the hie of Wight nor his predecessor were military mon.
After a few words from Lord STORMONT and Mr.
MURAT.

Mr. TREVOR asked how the futon governors of the
hie of iVigbt were to he appohned ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied
that they were to be appointed In the same way as lord
lieutenants of counties.

The motion was then agreed to.
The question that the sheriff be appointed the tectonic;
officer was then put.
Sir C. WETHERELL thought that the whole clause
was very loosely drawn.
Mr. KNIGHT said, that his previous objection was well
founded. The office of Lord Lieutenant was a military
office, and it would, therefore. be highly Inexpedient to lure
the Sheriff appointed by the Government.
Mr. TREVOR was of the same opinion.
After some further conversation between Lord Altborp,
Lord Stormont, Mr. Hughes, and Mr. C. Pelham, the mu.
lion was agreed to.
The question that the clause stand part of the bill was alu
speed to.
The CHAIRMAN was proceeding to read the 16th dame,
in order so put it, when
Colonel DAVIES suggested that they ought not to pre.
reed farther that night. To this clause be had several ob-
jections, 'Weir would take a good deal of time in stating,
and it was quite impossible therefore that they could get
through it that night.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER bad no
objection to adjourn then, if by doing so it would be any
accommodation to the Honourable and Gallant Gentle.
man.

The CHAIRMAN then left the Chair, and the House
baring resumed, reported progrem, and obtained lure to
sit again.
The other Olden of the Day were then disposed of; trd
the House at;joumed at a Quarter to One o'Clock.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.

BELGIUM AND HOLLAND.
NEWS RECEIVED THIS DAT.

BRUSSELS, Ay*. 13.—0 n the 11th a courier
dispatched by the French legation at the Hague to
Gen. Balliard, arrived at Brussels at two o'clock
in the afternoon, when Gen. Balliard, being at the
head quarters of the Belgian army, the dispatches
were sent to Louvain to him.

The Charge d'Affaires of France announced that
on an assurance that the prolongation of the at-
tack on Belgium by Holland would be considered
as a declaration of war against France, the
King of Holland had taken steps to obey the in-
junctions of the French government for the im-
mediate cessation of hostilities, and that orders
had been immediately sentto the Dutch troops to
evacuate the Belgic territory without delay.
The King, who did not return till near ten at
night from the reconnoissance which he made to-
_ ..

wards Tirlemont, was directly informed of this
first decisive result of the presence of the French
army, and Gen.Belliard having received from King
Leopold the expression of his satisfaction at this
happy result, set out for the French head quarters.
Being informed at Hal, where his Royal High-
ness the Duke of Orleans had his head quarters,
that Marshal Gerard was at Novellas, and unable,
in consequence of the fatigue he had undergone
the preceding days, to come from Nevelles to
Hal, a journey which it is impossible to make
except on horseback, General Belliard sent a
courier with his despatches to Marshal Gerard,
and returned without loss of time to Louvain. Gen.
Belliard, as he passed through Brussels on his re-
turn from Hal to Louvain, acquainted the mi-
nisters with the dispatches from the Hague, and
the steps he had already taken ; and fearing
that the confidence inspired by this firg
process might cause the Dutch to neglect the im-
mediate execution of the orders which they would
have received from King William, proceeded in
person, before be went to Louvain, towards Ter-
veuren, near which place he justly expected to
meet with the Dutch. In fact, he met the Duke
of Saxe-Weimar on the heights between Ter-
veuren and Louvain : he communicated to
him sibs despatches of which he
was the
bearer, and after an hour's conversation the
Duke of Save Weimar sent one of his aide-de-
camps to the Prince of Orange.
Lilo' Auo. 12.—M. C. de Brouckere and
Mr. Sudet de Chokier at Liege. It is said that

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!11. tie Brouckere is furnished with very extensive
~owers. Yesterday at Aix-la-Chapelle great coats,
's:c. were distributed among the soldiers. It is pub-
;ids• said in that city that Russia and Austria will
.tut remain passive spectators of the entrance of the
army into Belgium.
VUUSSELS, ALTO. 13.—The Emancipation says
e can positively announce the total suspen-
.:on of hostilities at all points, and the hope that
•;,,,,y will not be renewed."—Brussels Papers,
.1,;!. 14.
it reLININT TO THE NETHERLANDS ST.aTs
COURANT AUGUST 14.
..d To u: King.—Head-Quarters, Wenn. Aog. 11.
i bate the honour to inform vorr 3lajesty, that I have
otabl,.!•od nry headquarters at Thienes, which !thee is oc.
,•upicl by the mond bilged:. 3d division. The Ist brigade,
occuides Cumpdch, and bas a strong varguard
it lit.u:ets.m.
The 21 division is at Bossut and the environs, and ob.
tares the road of Nrmur and of Werre, towa'ds Louvain'.
" Tie first division ;t1 posted on my light wing, and oc.
conies St. Joiia Wit ghe and the environs. This concen.
tr...!,:n of the forces ova for i.s objet. to a tempt an attack
on Louvain.
vanguard enAag...l the enemy in tb: village of
&Lament. The action was in itself not of much 'altar-
.anee ; bat .brough it we have to lament the loss of Llnit..
Colonel Valkeotier,t, who commanded the Groningen Ya.
; tn. lie died a glorious ‘'‘.etli.
WILLIAM Price: ui ORANGE."
sgeonn SUPPLEMENT.

Nevus, Aug. 14.—.11rjor Van Omphal, arrived here
day from the head-quarters of His Royal Highness
the Prince of Orange, has brought the important and grati.
lying intelligence, that tut ;he 12th inst. his Majesty's army
e.ave battle to the Belgic army, led by Prince Leopold of
Saxe-Coburg, ai.h General de Tiecken de Taboret', com-
manding under hint, and has obtained a victory, in conse-
quence of w:,ich the town of Louvain has surrendered to
His Royal Higho.s. by cipittilaticm, whist' we here subjoin.
" Prince Leopold has bcea obliged to fly towards Ma.
lines, as lie was ct.t off from the Brussels road by the 2d
d:risicn under Isis Royal Highness Duke Bernard of Saxe.
" The official report of the details of this glorious victory
is expected, and it will be published wlthoot delay.
Conditions of a Suspension of Hrstilities between his
Hovel Highness the Prince of Orange and tha Chief of the
Snlif, ad laierim.
Art. I.—The town of Louvain shall be evacuated by the
Belgian uoops at noon to-morrow, the 13th of August. and
delivered to the troops under the command of his Royal
Highness the Prince of Orange.
"Art. 2.—The gales of the town and the principal posts
shall be surrendered to-inorrow, before the hour of noon, by
their guards of 1121gic troops, to guards of Dutch troops.
" Art. 3.—Hostilities shall be suspended front the present
element until tomorrow, the 13th of August, at noon.
" By order of his Royal Highness the Prince of Orange,
" Baron de CONSTANT DE REBECQUE,
"A. GOBLET."
" I pledge myself that the Prince of Orange hss given his
parole that the Belsky) troop. may c VaCUII.O the taws with
arms and baggage and all their maieri:l.
" Count tie STIRLIM, Aitle.de-Camp to the
Prince of Orange.
71111 D eIIPPLIMEXT.
" To the King.—" Head-quarters, Thiene°. Aug. 12.

" 1 have the honour to inform your ➢lajesty, that your
'Al...jetty's army, at the head of which I have the honour to
be placid, has this day obtained a brilliant advantage over the
enemy's army, commanded by Tiecken de Terhorco : Prince
Leopold was present in person. The enemy's troops were
drivcn from every position in which we attacked them, and
c ,mpelled to retreat into the town, and under the cannon of
Louvain.

The consequence was, the asking of a suspension of arms
for a short time, to allow the town of Louvain to be evacuated
and surrendered to your Majesty's troops.
"The proposition for an armistice, by which the enemy
acknowledged his defeat, was agreed to by me.
" This result was brought about in the following manner:
"The third division, commanded by General Meyer, broke
up at 6 in the morning, accompanied by the euthenics bd.'
lade, under the command of General Post; and the reserve
batteries of artillery.

•• in the evening before:we had found it necessary to eva-
cuate Bautersem, anti, in consequence of the superior force of
the enemy, to make the vanguard fall back upon Roosbeek.
" To-day we found the enemy on the Louvain side of
Bautcrsem, occupying an advantageous posision, which was
covered by woods and the exterior houses of Bautersem. His
fora consisted of infantry and artillery. I immediately per
ceived that to debouch from the village and attempt to attack
his position in front would only give matelot) to a needless
effusion of blood. I therefore ordered the outflanking of kis
position on the right and left, in order to oblige him to carry
his retreat into complete effect.
" The enemy made a long stand ; but when he perceived
that we had obtained possession of some heights on hie left
flank, which I caused to be occupied by the volunteer Yager
corps of the Sd division, he saw that P. was necessary to com-
mence a hasty retreat. We followed him without delay en
the road to Louvain.

'' I had just given orders for pursuing him with our ca.
'airy, that advantage might be taken of his confusion, when
a flag of truce advanced to meet me on the road.
" The bearer of the Sag of truce was Lord Wm. Russell.
He brought a letter from Sir Rcbt. Adair, addressed to the
Duke of Sase-Weimar, as It was supposed that bis Highness
r.,Tmanded this column. Ihe rurport of the letter was to
ark a suspension of arms, and to notify that the vanguard
cf the French army was already in the neighbo!.rhood of
Wane. Alter some deliberation, I intimated that the only
crcumstanees that could induce me to consent to an annis-
!ire could be the evacuation of Louvain, and the king able
to obtain undoubted assurance of a Frencb army beitig on
the Belgic territory. I would send an officer to ascertain
that. Lord William Russell then took leave, and I executed
my forward movement. The enemy fled on all points. On
approaching Louvain we found hint posted with s consider-
able force, in a very advantageous position, on the height
of Edienherg. 1 obliged him to abandon this position, by
crdeting the first division, which was marching on St. Joris-
Winglie, to take a position on this side on the ridge of that
Light, and then, having reached the plateau, to. advance on
the enemy's left a:ng.
" General Fatauge, who commanded the second brigade
of the first division, executed this movement with great skill,
and the rouh was successful. A cannonade, of short dura-
tion on hi' part, as well as on the part of the artillery of the
third division, compelled the enemy to evacuate this uncom-
;,lonly strong military posittion, and to retreat rapidly on
Larain.

" ll•e now occupy the same position, with the road and
•:,e hamlet on OUT left. Here we found ourselves within the
..,:atee of a gunshot from Louvain. I awaited the result
' 'Ty prop •ition, which Lord William Russell had tem-
( td to Sir Robert Adair as my answer to his ktter. Sir
Ruben Adair earns himself. He requested a suspension of li
4r•••• I declared to him that I could consent to no other
~uns than the complete evacuation of the town by Prince
Lopoldand the Belgic troops. Sir Robert took upon him-
'•f° is bring about an agreement on this condition.
" Immediately after Sir Robert's return to the town, a
b.igiyp Officer. belonging to the staff of the Belgian
• rnY, apprzed and asked me what propositions I would
p:.

I c used my demand to be drawn up by the General of
Lieutcr art-General Constant de :Itebecque, and
',qu,red an immediate answer. I received it without delay,
:4tteel by the Belgian Brigadier-General and Chief of the
el interim, A. Gobltt. Almon as this couventlottwas

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 17.

NZ O'CLOCK, THIS DAT .—Thennomacr, 72. Baro.
meter, 30-00. Wind N.W. Weather, fair.

The Dutch Mails give us the Prince of
Orange's accounts ofo his triumphs over the
Belgians, which he, of course, ascribes to his own
Generalship, and to the superior prowess of the
Dutch ; but all the world will ascribe his success
to the Five Powers having robbed the Belgians of
their public spirit, and to their conviction that they
were not solely fighting for their families and'
liberties, but in support of the policy of
Five Foreign Powers. It was a question on
which few Belgians were willing to devote them-
selves, for be it observed they were volunteers,
not hired men ; and they became soldiers in a
cause all their own, and not to defend Protocols,
in which they were no parties. They yielded to
the Protocols, but it was passive feeling; not the
soul-stirring sentiment which carries men to the
cannon's mouth.

Al! men are engaged in discussing Marshal
Soult's declaration, tbat the French troops are to
occupy Belgium till there is a satisfactory assur-
ance that the Dutch will not return. Such was
the language of Hengist when he came into Eng-
land to repel the Picts. In this case, however,
the Belgians will themselves favour the intruders,
for if they cannot be republican, they prefer
being French. Then there is the previous lugs-

tion about the fortresses, for which the feeble
French Government took undue credit for the sake of,
popularity ;and in now settling that point, they will,
like the British Brennius, throw their sword into the
scale. The avowal of Soult leads to doubts, and
the intention avowed may be the forerunner of
results not anticipated. But we do not regard it
as a question which ought to involve this country
in war. The policy of our own Dutch deliverer ought
to be despised in the present day. The Rhine is
the natural boundary of France ; and as it must be
so, sooner or later, the sooner the question is set-
tled, the better it will be for all Europe.

The politic secretly of Skrzynecki,while it baffles
his adversary, renders it difficult for journalists to
speak of the Polish campaign. The Muscovites
have cast their fate on a die, by crossing the Vis-
tula ; but they are still in a position to receive
supplies from treacherous Prussia. After crossing
at Nieszaws, they moved parallel to Warsaw, as
far as the Warta to Konin and Kole, and since have
concentrated at Lowiecz on the Boura,4B miles west
of Warsaw. The Poles are in some force at
Sochaczew and Bionic, twenty or twenty-five
miles distant; but Skrzynecki has his head-quar-
ters at Warsaw and Medlin, at the confluence of
the Narew and Ifistnla, op the left flank of Pas-
kewitsch. In these circumstances we may daily
expect decisive events. The summer is wearing
away, and the Muscovites must retreat or die;
conquest appears to us, without a miracle, to be
impossible ; for the Poles have only to destroy
them in detail, and thwart them till winter. This
war, however, is the great event of the
age, and its circumstances will be emblazoned
when the rdlii.g statesmen of France and Eng-
land, who tpmely looked ou, will be forgotten
or despised. Why not a Congress, on this sub-
ject, of the parties to the treaty, which, on con-
dition., put Poland into the hands of Russia ?
and why should Marshal Girard not be allowed
to advance into Saxony, to enforce an armistice,
till the independence of Poland is assured ?
The Bankruptcy Court Bill is deferred, and it,
would seem that the 70 Commissioners are making
as great a struggle as the Boroughmongers. We
still think Lord Brougham beg7n at the wrong
end, and that by giving to a majority of creditors a
power of settling with their debtors, ho would hare
rendered the office of Commissioner merely nominal;
and, of course, worth neither a struggle nor a
pension. The just course is generally the easiest
and shortest.

Lord Orford took occasion, from the complica-
tion of Belgic affairs, to blame our Ministers, not
for leaguing with the Holy Alliance, but for not
producing other results than that league has ne-
cessarily produced. Lord Grey replied, and
very plainly ascribed the assertions of French
Ministers to their desire to obtain a majority
in their Chambers. 'rhe Marquis of Londonderry
blamed Ministers, not for what they had done,
but for all that had happened. The Duke of Wel-
lington thought governments were bound only by
official signatures, and not by vague statements
made to influence a debate. Lord Grey charged
the Marquis with a desire to excite national ani-
mosities, which the latter disclaimed.
In the Commons, Mr. Hunt presented a petition
for some relief from the carpenters and joiners of
the metropolis, of whom 12,000 were now out of
employment. Sir C. Burrell insinuated that they
bed brought themselves into this condition by corn-
binations to keep up wages. But this Mr. Hunt
denied as to the petitioners. Ministers did not
remark on so serious an evil, but the petition
was ordered to be presented. We fear there are
three or four times the number of other al titans in
the same situation as the carpenters, wn to
London by facilities of raising money for buildingi
speculations, which now are obstructed by the sud-
den diminution of the circulating medium. It was
not enough to check the paper currency ; but, at
the same time, other measures should have been
adopted, to counteract tl:e effect on thousands of
families, who had become dependent on an artificial
system, long sustained for its own purpoacs by the
Government.

Lord Milton presented a petition from the Cor-
poration of Dublin, praying for the establishment
of a Board of Trade. Mr. Grattan, Col. Conolly,
and Mr. Wyse, supported the plan. Mr. O'Con-
nell thought the only remedy for all Irish pie.
vances was a local legislature. Colonels To,rens
and Trench thought.thatAland could not become
a manufacturing country, and Mr. Crampton
thought the scheme not worthy of move considera-
tion. He also stated that Catholics were not ex-
cluded, as such, from the jury at kilenny.

Mr. O'Connell presented a petition, praying
for the disbanding of the yeomanly.
Sir G. Clerk, in consequence of an in•egu-
larity in the return for Great Grimsby, moved
that the Sheriff of Lincolnshire, and also the
returning officer, attend on Friday a: the bar
of the house, which was agreed to.
Some conversation followed about the riots at
Ayr, the bishopric of Derry, and the carrying
away of the Portuguese fleet, by the French,
from Lisbon to Brest.

Mr. Paget complained of alterations in the reform
bill as last printed, and enquired about parishes,
parts of boroughs. Lord Altborp explained that
the whole dutch parishes would acquire the fran-
chise; but Mr. Warburton said the clause was cor-
rectly worded.
In reply to an inquiry of Mr. Briscoe, the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer stated that orders had been,

sent to the colonies to emancipate all slaves be-
longing to the Crown. For this the public will give
ministers credit. It was feared that every kind of
suffering was to be endured till the reform bill
17as carried.

Colonel Evans then laid claim to the gratitude
of the country and of all Europe, by moving for
papers illustrative of tho treacherous conduct of
Prussia •in supporting the Russians, against the
Poles, alleging that the Russians cannot maintain
their present position, without being assured of
supplies of provisions, arms, and ammunition, fr'm
the Prussian frontiers. lie enlarged on the ob.i-
gations of all the parties in the Treaty of Vienna to
support the Poles.
Lord Pahnorstcn shortly opposed the niotinn.
Mr. Hume then, with his usual energy, pleaded
the claims of the Poles to our protection, and as-
serted that they were as strong as the claims of
Belgium. Lord Palmerston then said, Goveinment,
were sensible of their obligations to fulfil treaties.
Mr. Dominic Brown expressed great indigna-
tion at the apathy which a Ministry, with !Aro
Grey at its head, displayed on this subject. Mr.
O'Connell advised the postponement of the sub-
ject, without withholding his sympathy for the
Poles, who he hoped would triumph. Colonel
Evans's motion was then negatived.
Mr. Hume then, in a very elaborate speech, to
which no abstract can do justice, proposed that 19
members should be returned to parliament from our
variods colonies, viz. 4 from India, 8 from Crown
Colonies, 4 from North America, and 3 from the
West Indies, and the Marquis of Chandos seconded
the motion. Mr. Laboucbere opposed the plan;
Mr. Keith Douglas doubted its expediency; Lord
Althorp thought it was a question which tended
to create embarrassment ; Sir John Malcolm
sod Sir G. Staunton supported the idea; Sir C.
Wetherell opposed it, but thought it exposed the
entire plan of reform ; Mr. Burge, Sir C. Forbes,
and Sir li. Murray approved of the plan. Mr.
Hume left it to Ministers to mature, and the mo-
tion was negatived.
In the Reform Committee, one clause only, the
14th, giving to the Isle of Wight one Member,
was carried, after a long desultory debate.

This day the KING came from Windsor to
Saint James's Palace, where his MAJESTY held a
Levee, and afterwards a Privy Council ; at which
the RECORDER of London made his Report to his
MAJESTY of the criminals under sentence of
Death in Newgate.

ROYAL EXCHANGE, ONE O'CLOCK.
Consols, which left off yesterday at 81i f for
the Account, opened at 81i ; at present they are
81i with little or nothing doing.
TWO O'CLOCK.

Consols have been during the whole of the morn-
ing at 81i ; alternately buyers and sellers, with
little doing. The Foreign Market remains in
much the same state as yesterd_jy.
MAKE O'CLOCK.
Bank Stock, 1991. Three per Cent. Red. 921 11.
Thies per Cent Consols, 811 1 /. Three and s Half per
Cent, 1818, 901 1. Three and s Half per C. Red. 901901.
Three and a Half per Cent New, tUlf 1. Four per Cent
1826, —.Long Annuities, Jan. 1800, 17 1.16 17. An-
pukka, Oct. 1839, —; do. Jan. 1800, 18 11-16. India
Stock, 198 ; uo. Bonds, par. 1 prem. South Sea Stock, —.
£lOOO Exchequer Bills' 9 10; £5OO do. 9 11; 09100 and
1200 do. 10 12. rousts ls for Acct, 811 11.
COURT CIRCULAR.

The Duke and Duchess of Braganza, accom-
panied by Donna Marla, left the Clarendon Hotel yesterday
morning for Paris, on a visit to the King of the French.
Prince Talleyraad, the French Ambassador, had
an interview with Earl they yesterday, at the Treasury.—
His Excellency afterwards visited Viscount Palmerston, at
the Foreign Office.
The Danish Minister transacted business yes-
terday, at the office of the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs.

The Netherlands Ambassador, the Swedish Mi-
nister and family, Baron Zuylen de Nyevelt, Viscount Cas-
tlereagh, Lord Glenlyon, Hon. CoL Lincoln Stanhope, /U.
were among the company at Vauxhall Gardens on Monday
evening, to witness the entertainments in honour of the
birth-day of her Majesty.

The Gazette of lest night contains an Order in
Council, declaring free the ports of Black River, Rio Buena,
and Niemen, in the island of Jamaica.
DOVER, Avo. 16, 1831, 9 o'CLocx, P.M.—
Tle es-Emperor Don Pedro, with the Empress, the Queen
Donna Alaria, with a very numerous suite, has just ar-
rived at 'Wright's Ship HoteL The Lightning steam-vessel
is waiting to convey the royal party to Fiance.
BA N li-NOTES.—The highest amount of bank-
notes in circulation from April 10, 1830, to July 30, 1831.
was, in the week ending July 24, 1830, 22,612,1061. 21. sd.
The smallest amount in the same period was In the week
ending June 18. 1831, 17.449,5911. 19s. Ild. showing a
difference of 5,163,5141. 21.6 d. between the two periods.—
l'arliansentirey .Vo. 140.
The whole amount of foreign wheat entered into
the united kingdom for home consumption in the present year,
to the 14th of July, wLs 1,074,706 quarters from foreigncoun-
tria, and 72,223 front British possessions abroad. The rates
of duty varied from Is. at which it stood during the greater
part of blarch, to 21s. 81. the rate on the 30th of Dezember,
1830. The total amount of duty paid was 248,3901. 6s. 7d.
The total quantity entered since the passie.g of the act 9 Geo.
IV. c. 60 (15th of July, 1828), was, from foreign countries,
4,6A1,029 quarters, British possessions 130,481 ditto; total
duty, 1,397,0831. 2.. 3d.
STEAM-BOATS ON THE THAMES.--.The act
introduced on this subject by Altkrinan Wood has been
printed. It enacts, that from the passing of this act all
steam-vessels nay:gated up the ricer it:all not proceed,
after reaching the east wing of Greenwizit Hospital,
at a greater velocity than four miles an hour with a
flood tide, or against an ebb tide than at tine rate of
six miles an hour, in any part of the river between
ate Hospital and the Limehouse entrance to the
West India Docks ; and front tknee to London.bridge, at a
greater velocity than 3 miles an hour with a flood tide, or 5
against an ebb tide ; and the same going down the river, on
penalty of a fin.: of Idol. The velocity of steam-boats is to
be checked upon passing near any deep-loaded ba:ge or other
craft, or any passage-boat, skiff, or wnerry, at a rare as yet
left blank iu the draught of the bill, on the same penalty.
A lantern, with a strong light, is to be bung out from all
steam-boats, in every part of the river, from London !midge
to Gravesend, during the night time, tr as long rs any
darkness shall continue,' on penatty of 201. 4o steam-boat
Is to post samba (this will prevent racing) at a greater rate
than specified in the set, on penalty of 201. A clause regu-
lates the number of passengers at so many for each registered
ton; and the number of passengers so allowed shall be paint-
ed on the after part of the " companion," in figures at least
two inches long, on penalty of 251. Justices may award
aseisfaetion for damages done to any boat or craft, tact
exceeding 50L The Court of Aldermen are empowered
to snake by-laws for the regulation of steam-boats in the
river, which must, however,eto be valid, previously ob:ain
the sanction of one or more of the judges.

117 and surrendered to your
tvs " The proposition fur
acknowledged his defeat,
'Ps " This result was bran
"The third division,
Liao up at 6 in the morning,
lade, under the cowman
ise, batteries of artillery.
••• In the evening befo
1.• cuate Bacterium, and, it
ob-
the enemy, to make the
s,
To.day we found t
Bautcraem, occupying a
no covered by woods and th
de- force consisted of infanc
ceived that to debocch fr
Liu his position in front wo
to
effusion of blood. I the
utd potition on the right and
his retreat into complete
" The enemy made a I,
that we had obtained pee
flank, which I caused to 1
corps of the Sd division,
ounce a hasty retreat. 1
i the road to Louvain.
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" I bail just given ord
to
ck 'dry, that advantage mig
he a flag of truce advanced t
" The bearer of the As
lei
He brought a letter from
tat Duke of Saxe-Weimar, a
It - c:,!rmanded this column.
'ed ad; a suspension of arms.
be of the French army was
in- Wane. After some del
creumstances that could
se
!ice would be the evscuat
tO to obtain undoubted am
the Belgic territory. I s
st that. Lord William Rut
LO- my forward movement.
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Ch able force, in a very adv
of Pallenberg. 1 oblige(
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iis crdeting the first division
Winghc, to take a positic
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height, and their, having
the enemy's left wing.
re,
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of the first execu
lle
10 and the re,ult was suceest
ke tion on hi' part, as well a
:hid division, compelled i
a
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as.
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