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to thew the declamd prieciele upon which the nego-
dation was framet, wis for the purpose-of obtaitung
a general peace. The Noble Lord must know, that
if you require Fl•anee to snake sacrifices of territory
and kingdoms-which Ilittexed her national vanity,
Ake has A right :to demand ;emission from yeti.--
When We consider that thelate Government of France
sanctioned and promoted the Trade, can we altoge-
ther wonder if a little reluctance should lurk in the
present ? If you proceed as rpeacirended by the
Noble Lord, you must be pre far the alterna-
tive of war; and supposing even that, erhat would
your Allies say to such a condition ? Much more, he
contended, had been accomplished in the last fourteen
months towards the abolition than in all the preceding
time. It was'well known' that under the late Go-
vernment a positive refusal was given to inserting the
subject as an article in the Treaty, in 1806. He then
noticed and lamented the failure of the Noble Mar-
quis (Wellesley) opposite, in attempting to obtain
and conciliate this point in Spain ; and though he
censured both the conduct of the Spanish and Portu-
guese-Goyernments, still he could not forget their
patriotic exertions in the common cause. He next
dwelt upon our having obtained the sanction of
Sweden, Denniurk, and Holland, to abolish this
traffic : the last Power, in particular, the quistion
affected most vitally. Here, then, were great and
positive advantages obtained. The stipulation he-
allowed to be very important, and Ministers had
done the utmost t 6 obtain the, best terms ; and they
had struggled hard for more advantages. on this sub-
ject : but the present were important and defined,
not general and loose, like those with Portugal.-
-It was his firm conviction that the French Govern-
ment had a sinceit intention bf abolishing it, by pre-
paring the minds of the colonists for that measure.—
That there exists in the breasts of our Allies a fa.
vourable disposition towards the abolition, which
would have been endangered by pursuing any other
measure. He insisted that after the glorious results
of the last campaign, followed by the restoration of
the House of Bourbon, it was the general opinion that
an immediate peace was desirable ; and thought
much more would be accomplished by management
in regard to the slave trade, than by strong measures;
and therefore objected to the production of the Pa-
pers and information moved for, as tending to ember.
rass and injure the nespciation, and furnish those
who were dispord, with the means of-throwing ins.
ptdinteets in the way ; and concluded by stating, that
.if you attempted to force the measure you net*
could expect cdtdiality.
Lord HOLLAND denied the conclusions that hot
been drawn by the Noble Lord, and considered the,
reason: advanced for the conduct of Ministers, ;nob*
sequence of the reluctance of the French GoveriMiente
to be slims yin the extreme; and asserted that the
Noble Earl had contradicted his own arguments
against the production of the information, by refer-
ring continually to papers that had been laid before
the House. With respect to our Making it a•sine
qma Ross, he would Ask in reply, was the French Go-
vernment prepared to make it so.? He eirald not
allele& the analogy that had been attempted to be
made between the present and former periods,
.which he contended was invidious. His Lord-
ship stated two different favourable opportunities
that had occurred, but could not be embraced, in
consequence of the measure at that time of the
Abolition being incomplete. He .considered the
cession of the island of Guadeloupe as a boon, and
we in, return received their sanction to the Aboli-
tion ;—and Denmark was understood to have de-,
dared herself favourably before. The insertion of
the stipulation was worse than its omission, as we lite
rally furnished France *with the means of carrying
it on. He hoped the report he had heard was not
true of that Government, that it had refused the in-
sertion in the public prints, of the Address of that
House, and likewise all discussion; on the subject.—
He contrasted the situation of this country four
months back, compared with that of five years, and,
insisted upon it that we were forming a complete
new West India Establishment for France, and en-
abling her to carry on that traffic. He ridiculed the
idea that, because we had taken years to abolish it,
therefore the French Government would use that ar-
gument. He considered that this country had de-
graded itself by the • insertion of the article is the
Treaty. His Lordship contended that we were jus.
tified in urging the- bolition of the Slave Trade,
and declared that he would have consented to almost
any sacrifice, so that we had retained the settlements
of Senegal and Goree, which would be completely
fortifying them in the means of carrying,it on ; and
wished that the punishment inflicted for the offence of
carrying on the Slave Trade had been made piracy.
—He concluded by recommending Parliament to be
ever on the alert on this important subject ; and in.
sisted on the necessity of the production of the Papers
moved for.
After some further debate, in which the Earls of
WRSTMORLANDI GREY, BATHURST, and SKLKIRK, and
.the Marquis of LANSDOWI/14 took part, the House
;divided, when there appeared—For the Motion 27-r
Ailpinst it 62.
HOUSE OP COMMONS.
-Lord CASTLEREAGH bras& up certain Papers relative.
to the Negotiation, amongst which was the Decree of the Prince
Sovereign of the Netherlands. They were ordered-to fie on
the table. '
Mr. WHITBREAD brought op a Bill for amending the Hol-
born Division Sewers Bill, which was read a first time.
Several of the annual Returns relative to Exports and Imports,
were presented from the Custom House.
The Army Prize Money Bill was read a third time, and passed.
The Apprentice Bill went through a Committee; report on
Wednesday.
A !Mt number of Petitions were presented on the subject of
the Slave Trade—their general prayer Aral, that all possible
efforts might yet be Made to effect the total abolition of that hor-
rible traffic. Amongst them were. those from Uxbridge, Poole,
Woburn, Boating, Anted, Thames Ditton, leer, Southgate, Ket-
tering, and the county of Stafford. They were severally ordered
to.be read, and to lie on the table.
Mr. ROSE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to prevent the em-
bezzlement of property belonging to Greenwich kitispitaL
IMPRISONMENT FOl5 DEBT.
Mr. BENNETT presented a Petition from the widest of a
person named Booth, who died while imprisonstifor debt in the
King's Bench—k was similar to that presented to the House of
Lords, by Lord Stanhope—and prayed for the abnlition of the
practice of imprisoning for debt under Melons Presets.
Several other Petitions to the sarnieffeet were presented, and
ordeted to lie on the table.
Mr. P. MOORE, oil presenting two of the Petitions in "Ow
tiou, gave notice, that to-morrow he should submit a motion to
the House for effectuating t::e object to which they alluded.
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THANKS TO TOE DUKE OP I.VRILI,INGTON•
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he wow rose .to
give notice of a motion for tle thanks of the Howe