Star.
London, England, 1812-04-15 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. P. CAREW moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the bet-
ter carrying into effect the Regulations existing for improving
Turnpike Roads, and to nuke further provisions for the preser-
vation thereof.—Leave given.
Lord G. L. Gowea presented a Petition from the Potteries in
Staffordshire against the Orders in Council.—Ordered to lie on.
the table.

The Legal Quays Bill was read a third time and passed.
Mr. C. WYNN z moved that there should be laid before the
House an Account of the Amount of Land-tax assessed on the
different Counties in England and Wales, and the amount of it
which bad been redeemed in each County.—Ordcred.
On the motion of Mr. Ho a N ta, certain accounts of the amount
of Bank of England Notes in circulation at different periods in
1811, and up to the 13th of April, 1812 ; also the amount of
Notts locked up in the Exchequer at the same periods ; and the
amount of Dollars at.d 1 hrce-sbillitig Tokens in circulation at
the same periods were ordered to be laid before the }louse.

ORDERS IN COUNCIL.
Lord MILTON said he held in his hand a Peti-
tion from the Clothiers of the West Riding of YOrk-
shire against the Orders in Council. The Petitioners,
he said, stated, that, in their opinion, most of the
hardships they laboured under arose from those Or.
ders. The Petitioners further said, that could they
perceive any good effects arising to the country ge.
nerally from their operation; whatever personal evil
might result from them, they would patiently bear,
for the sake of the public good..—Ordered to lie op
the table. . •

ooLotrot. semanow.
Mr. C. WYNNE said, when he first mentioned
the subject of Colonel M'Mahon's apftointment, he
supposed the motion he was about to make was one
of course t but he now understcod it was to be
op.
posed. He should, therefore, be under the necessity
of going into it. That the office of C4oucl Mllahou
d thata rigthlnetor
was a new one, no person could deny. That it might
not be necessary, be did not mean to assert; but,
cniewtheotceti,estbate
fbie:irimngeda it,taHcredsetohabmightl.
judge if it was an office proper to be established...,
The House was told that this was the same office as
Colonel Taylor held, that of Private Secretary ; but
how was the House to judge what were the duties
attached to such an office Was the Private Recta
tary a Cabinet Minister, or was he a mere atnanu.
ensis ? When King William came over to this
country, at. the time of the Revolution, he was ;goo.
rant of the language, but he had no private Secretary.
George the First was a stranger, but be had no such
officer ; and, to come down to our own times, his
present Majesty, down to the time of his unfortunate
illness, had no such officer; yet it is well known his
Majesty attended to all public business, and to every
appointment, himself. At length his Majesty's uu.
fortunate illness, his blindness, commenced, which
prevented his reading his Ministers' communications.
and. Colonel Taylor was :ppointed. He (Mr. Wynne)
>had on that occasion wisiied Colonel Taylor should
have been a public officer, and that he should have
'taken the oaths as such ; but there was a delicacy
towards his Majesty which prevented such a propo.
sition costing fri:m any man. In all common cases
the Secretary of State was the proper pi ivate Score.
tar}; and ought to attend his Majesty's commends
or the commands of the person who was exercising
the Soyereign authority ; and now, when there was
no defect, no inability in the person exercising the
Royal, Authority, what reason was there for such ant
officer ? He knew it bad been urged that the increase
of business had been such as to require the assistenui
of a Secretary, and particularly in the department of
the army, where the nuttiber of signannas for cont.
missions in particular had increased so much as to
require the manual labour of one person entirely._
This difficulty he thought might he got over by the
Sovereign, as had been the case on former occasions,
signing one warrant authorising the Commander it;
Chief to grant commissions to several Officers men?
awed by name in that single warrant. He wished
to know whether the advices given by Ministers to
the -Regent were to pass through the Secretary's
hands, and -Regent,
be submitted to a child person • and
that person a Privy Counsellor, which Col. DPlsiaboa
was ? If this was intended he could not agree toil',
appointment—an appointment which would oblige
Colonel M'Mahon, the Private Secretary of the So.
vmign, if he attended to the oath taken by him as a
Privy Counsellor, to give his advice upon those pa,
pers which be could only read as Secretary. This
was an absurdity on the very face of it.. It was too
fresh in the remembrance of the House to require
his repeating it, that Colonel M'Mahon had beet
appointed to a situation from which a vote of the
House had taken the emoluments, and now it had
becn found necessary to create a new off x for him.
(Hear' hear.)—That Colonel M'Mahon had bows
faithful servant to the Prince he had no doubt; he
did not mean to deprOciate the services of Colossi ,
M'Mahon, but he had been made Keeper ofthePrivy
Purse, if that was not enough he might have bees
made en Equerry, and of these appointments oo ono
would have complained. The circumstances attend.
ing his appointment, and a persuasion that delicacy
should have induced Ministers to have communicated
his appointment to Parliament, had induced him to
bring forward this motion. He concluded by moving
for a copy of the Minute cf Treasury, appointing
Colonel M'Mahon Private Secretary to the Regent.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he thought the
Hon. Gentleman had raised this subject into soots
importance than necessary. He had s d that he SW
derstood the motion was to be misted, o hat be (Lord
Castlereagh) recollected his Right Hon. Friend to
have said was, that be did not see any grounds 04
which he should refuse the production of the Ma
in question, but that he wished to hear the grounds
on which it was moved for. The Hon. Gentleman,
however, had not contented himself with doing sin,
but bad gone into such a statement as required as
answer ; and that simple fact of the appointment of
Colonel M4l4phon should be laid before the House.
The fact was, that the appointment of Col. *Mahon
did not authorize him at all to receive any consents-
; tional communications from his Royal Highway
.or
I did it at all go to remove any responsibility from Me
person exercising the office of Secretary of State.
With respect to Colonel M'Mahon's being a Privy
Counsellor and that he would therefore be bound to
give his advice to the Prince, he '
did not at all think that the

svllor required a person to tra
give advice. With respect '
appointment, he was of opinion,
sury was a regular appointment
any other appointment than
Private Secretary to of ►
or any other Great Officer of
HOUbe he did not consider the

M'Mahon as the appointmen
or that it would at all lessen

he himself bore as Secretary
He did not think it v►as at

the present times with the

and George I. and George I
bourn of the Sovereign now
Without some assistance he
Highness never wOuld be
business of state. Under all

Case, he was persuaded the H.

appointment was necessary,
constitutional. And if thbse

him the motion would not be

only be necessary to produce ,
order to found a vote of censure,

sure, upon them. On these
from any wish to withhold
House that he should oppose
Mr. ELLIOTT thought
tues in Princes was a wish to
he therefore paid his tribute
Regent for his wish bo to do.
his Royal Highness lad been
mode of requiting the service
(Near, hear.) The appointaießt

A • "
sold therefore be bound
bound to
.e, he ( Lord Castlereagh)
duty of a Privy Coax-
travel out of his course to
: to the regularity of di
pinion, a minute of Tres-
went; it no more required
o did the appointment of a
the Secretaries of Sots,
of State. He assured the
ie appointment of CANA
rut of a fourth Secret**.
n the responsibility which
of State —(lifor, kar.).
it all in point to compare
times of King Wilhols
11. or to compare the la-
r to what they were th'.
was persuaded his Royal
able to get through the
11 the circumstances of the
House would consider the
, and that it was not uo•
se points were acceded to
be necessary, as it could
:e the papers asked for, in
cure, or some such nsea,
grounds it was, and act
Id information from am
to the motion.
: one of the greatest yk• •
reward faithful sereaztal
of applause to the Mot
- He thought, bower* •
en ill advised, as to 10
ce of Colonel Ms?dabzi. 1
Peßt of Colonel