Star.
London, England, 1831-07-26 00:00:00

SWAN RIVER.

Lord HOWICK then movcd a grant of 24,1190 L on ac-
count of AVestern Australia and the Swan River establish-
ments.

Mr. HUNT said there were so many contradictory ac.
count that he should like to know whether it was prospering
or not

Lord HOWICK replied, that the last accounts, recently
received, were most favourable. Some member having in.
stituted inquiry whether there was to be any salary for the
Governor, his lordship replied, that there was to be a salary
in the event of the colony succeeding, and he thought 8001.
a year would not be deemed too much. To the exertions of
Capt. Stirling they were greatly indebted.
Col. TORRENS felt perfectly persuaded that by proper
management these colonies might be made to receive all our'
surplus rural population, and thereby to relieve the poor.
rates very essentially.
Mr. GISBOURNE inquired, whether Governor Stirling
was not to receive a grant of land not subject to the general
regulation ?
d HOWICK replied, that if the plan succeeded, there
was to be a grant of land besides salary; having succeeded,
the grant had been made.
Mr. HUNT observed, that many had emigrated to Van
Dieman's Land from the Swan River, in consequence of
the failure. If the farmers could afford to employ the men,
there would be occupation for double the men now engaged
at home.

11Ir. WESTERN said, more might be employed, but the
incapacity of the &titter was, in fact, the Calle of the dell.
tient occupation.
Mr. BENNETT alto mated that there would be occups.
tion for the men, if the farmers could afford to employ
them. He denied that there was any surplus population,
as would be proved, if thty only reduced taxes and tithes.
Resolution agreed to.
• CANALS IN CANADA.
Mr. S. RICE then moved the next resolution, amen.
ing that it would be the last grant r be moved it pursuant
to the recommendation ant.l opinion of a Select Committee

—a :grant of 296,0001. for the formation and improve-
ment of water communication in Canada, from Montreal to

the Otto's.

Mr. WARBURTON inquired whether the Committee
had possessed an more precise information than was pre.
•ioutly possessed, of the probable total expense p _

Mr. S. RICE learned that they had not; lie could not but
regret that all these proceedings had commenced on very
imperfect ptepara y information. The first estimate in
1825 for the completion pf these works was 189,00 W.; since
that period upwards of 1,000,000/. had been voted for them,
including the present grant.—(Hirer.)—The first was, in
fact, an unauthorised grant, commenced by the government
without the sanction of Parliament, the Parliament being
then sitting.
Sir H. HARDINGE said, the work was commenced with
the sanction of Mr. W. Horton, the present Governor of
Ceylon, and when Lord Goderich was Chancellor of the
Exchequer. The ordnance department and the colonial de-
partment had sanctioned the outlay. He maintained that 1,
from inquiries, the whole matter was brought forward before
the parliament, as much as any question of the kind could
be. The whole principle of it was brought under the cog-
nizance of the !louse In 1828. As to the importance of the
work, he considered it to be unqinitionable for all military
purpose%
Mr. S. RICE repeated his complaint, that the work was
commenced without any recognition of it by the Parliament.
Would the right hon. gentleman show any warrant of the
Treasury, authorising the grant and outlay of the first-named I
169,0001. (Hear.)
After a conversation between Sir H. Hauptman, Sir J.
WILLIAMS, Mr. ROBBITIWIN, Mr. WAILIBUILTON, and Mr.
LABOUCtIMILZ.
Sir G. MURRAY trusted that some system would be
adopted which would put un end to the perpetual heartburn.
lag and dissentions which topic place between the executive
and the local government of the Cansdas.
Colonel EV ANS objected to the grant because he was of
opinion this country could cot count permanently on any ad-
vantage from the measure.
Mr. HUNT opposed the grant.
After which the question was put and carried.
£351.360 6s. Id. to defray the charge of his Majesty's
Militia in Great Britain and Ireland was next put.
Mr. ROBINSON proposed an adjournment.
Mr. HUNT would enter his protest against toting such
a large sum of money at that late hour.
The grant was then allowed.
The CHAIRMAN then reported the resolutions to the
house, and the report was ordered to be received this day.