Star.
London, England, 1814-06-29 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Petitions were presented from a great number of places, pray-
ing for a revision of that Article of the Treaty by which the con-
tinuance of the Slave Trade was to be permitted for five years
in the Colonies to be ceded to France. Among them was one
from the Protestant Dissenting Ministers in the neighbouthoqd
of London, in which they state, that, as Ministers of the Got
pel, they see with concern the continuance of the Slave Trade
permitted for five years, as by obstructing the diffusion of know.
ledge and progress of civilization in the Continent of 'Wien,
those errors and superstitions would still continue, which had
been found so hostile to the introduction of Christianity. All
ordered to lie en the Table.

Mr. PEEL, in a Committee on the Irish Judges Salaries Act,
moved certain Resolutions, which were agreed to, and ordered
to be reported tomorrow.
On the further consideration of the Clergy Residence Bill, Sir
W. SCOT ir moved, for the sake of making some amendments
in the 1311/, that the Report of it should be re-committed. The
House went into the Committee, the amendments were agreed
to, the Report received, and ordered to be taken Into farther
consideration on Monday.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR called the attention of the House to
the dangerous state of the streets in the metropolis. His object
was to ascertain the extent of the funds for repairing the streets,
reserving to himself in the next Session to offer some Bill to re-
medy their state. It arose froth some jealousies in she use of the
rates for paving and lighting, and their being applied as other
parochial rates. Another reason was, the rivalry among dale-
rent Water-works Comparres, who weir constantly turning up
the streets. He thin moved for Amnon. of the Rates for Pav-
ing and Lighting the Streets of the Metropolis for the last four
years.—Ordered to be laid on the table.
Mr. BROGDEH I brought up t he Report of 1 Committee en the
Irish Sugar Drawback Acts, and the Resolutions were agreed to.
he further consideration of the Report of the Spirit Inter-
course Bill was postponed till Thursday.
Mr. D. GIDDY brought up a Petition from various Authors
and Composers of Books, in favour of the Bill for securing the
Copy-right of Books.—Ordered to lie on the table.—Tbe further
proceeding on the Bill was postponed till to-morrow se'lnnight.
Returns of Fees from tire Hamper OfSce were brought up,
and ordered to lie on Mee table.

Mr. LUSHINGTON obtained leave to bring in alai to alter
the Acti for the Redemption of the I.and Tax.
l ht Navy Prize money Bill went through a Committee.
Mr. ROSE said, he had formerly explained the Bill so fully,
that it was only necessary for him to say, that his objects were
to secure safe and regular, returns from the Viye-Adnairalty
Courts abroad, and to appoint an Offiecr at home, whose parti-
cular department should be to watch over" those accounts and
returns. That Officer was also to make a yearly return to Par-
liament of the state of those accounts.
Sir C. POLE and Mr..l. Shinn spoke in favour of the Bin,
and it was ordered to be reported to-morrow.
Mr. HOLFORD brought up the Bill fur the better regulation
of the Jails in the City.
Sir W..CURTIS did not mean to oppose this Bill, unless it
were found to infringe on the privileges of the City.
The Ind was read a first, and ordered to be read second time
on Monday next.
The Exchequer Bills Bill we passed.
Several Petitions were presented from various parts, praying
for the Abolition of theStavel rade.—Ordered to lie on the table.
FEES IN CotniTS OF JUSTICK.
Sir J. NEWPORT believed it to be the bounden
duty of the House to exercise a proper regulation and
controul over the fees in the Courts of Justice ; with-
out which the suitor would be liable to be treated with
great injustice. Since 1798 no controul of this kind
had been exercised. The periods antecedent to that
time, when this controul was exercised, were 1732
and 1753. Although he had thought it necessary, in
the exercise-of this controul, to move for the returns
of Fees in courts of Justice, yet he could assure the
House he had not the least intention of impUgning
any particular officer of any of the Courts. He then
moved, that the various Returns of Fees made at dif-
ferent periods to the Parliaments of Great Britain and
Ireland should be entered on the Journals, in order
that every Member might have an immediate refe-
rence to them whenever he should please. He also
moved, that a Commission„similar to that of 179),
should be appointed ; and that an Address should be
presented to the Prince Regent, for an Account of
la/1 Proceedings under the Great Seal in 1799, with,
respect to the Fees of Courts of Justice and the offices
attached to them.
Mr. LAW did tot sonceiverthat the Honourable'
Baronet had been actuated by any personal feelings
in bringing forward such strong personal charges
against some Law Officers; he still thought he had
brought forward those charges without having shewn
any foundation for them. A charge had been made
against the Chief Justice of the Court of King's
bench, that he had allowed the Marshal to increase
his fees. The only way in which the Head of that'
Court could answer that charge, was by a simple de-
nial t> its truth. Those fees were established by usage,
and mere taxed by the Master of the King's Bench,
and subject to the revision of the Bench of Judges of
that Court. No alteration had taken place in those
fees since 1732, except some fees of forms. With re-
gard to the Clerk of Nisi Prius and Clerk of Court
(Mr. Lowten) he took only the same fees he had
done thirty years ago. The general ratio of.fees had
not increased since 1732. It was very right ti at
parliament should have a COMFOIII over the Courts t
Law, whenever sufficient grounds were laid to thew
that there was any abets an them ; but voting this

Address might have a very dangerous erect as to t?..•
character And respect due to the Courts of Justice.—
said, He
Ltoducl di,‘ therefore,srLtßF.
71 oppose
themotion.
the House was en. •
titled to have expected that some ground of abuse
should have been laid before any motion of this slate."
should have been made. The Hon. Baronet was my:
in posssession of the return of fees from all our Courts,
but he seemed to have found out no particul ir abuse in
any of them. - He, therefore, felt the strongest desire
to oppose this motion ; at the same time he could as.
sure the House, that he had no wish to screen any case
of abuse where such could be pointed out.
Mr. PONSONBY contended, that no imputation
would be cast on any of the Courts cf Justice by the
motion, or uny enquiries proposed by his Right Nor..
Friend, any mort than had been done by the former
similar motiops on this subject. The opinion th.it
imputations were cast on Courts of Justice, would be
best answered by submitting readily to every enquiry
~
that could be made into their fees and other matters.
He did not believe there was an honest Judge alas
would shrink from any enquiry being made into has
conduct. But the character of the Judges was not at
all implicated by the motion of his Right Honourable
Friend •, for they only concerned the Officers of the
several Courts, and not these wt.° preside over them.
For these reasons he should vote for the motion.
Mr. BATHU RST opposed the motion. He con.
tended, that it was too much to throw an imputation
on any person, on the ground that when I„is conduct was
enquired into, it would be found more pure than ever.
Nothing, in his opinion, would justify such enquiiies,
except the laying sufficient Parliamentary grounds that
abuses existed in those deputments.
Mr. STEPHEN said, that in his opinion nothing
could be more improper than to treat Judges in the
way they had been, without bringing 4ome speciCc
charge against them. The Hon. Baronet in moving
for returns of Fees in Courts of Justice for 20 years
past, had hinted, that he should discover some abuses.
It appeared, however, be had made no such discovery;
but, for all that, he had moved fur a commission of
enquiry on the Courts of Justice, which, to persons
out of that House would imply, if not a discovery of
any absolute abuse, at least of supicion that some exist-
ed. This was not treating the Judges with that re-
spect which was absolutely necessary for the due ad-
ministration of justice in this country. He defended
the Accountant General of the Court of Chaniery
from any charge of applying the money of suitors to
his own partial use for a time; for he never received
or Paid any of that money. It was paid into and kept
in the Bank ; and he had only the direction of at.
That enquiry which was formerly made, had proved
as much ; but the Right Hon. a ironet, not content-
ed with that, had now attacked the Judges with as
1 little reason.. He, therefore, hoped the motion might
be negatived.
Mr. W. SMITH slid, it was very possible, that by
the lapse of time the Fees in some instances might have
become too small, and in others, have grown enor-
mously too large for services performed. Would not
then such matters as these come put uo a commission
of revision of Fees taken in Courts of Justice, and Le
corrected without any imputation being cast on any
person whatever. His Right Hon. Friend said, he
had no intention of casting imputations on any offi. I
cers ; but, he had heard it asserted, that in certain
offices (and it was matter of great notoriety), there
was a practice of taking what was called Expedition
rtes. This surely was very detrimental to the regular
course of justice. He saw much benefit; but no incon-
venience, that could result from the motion of his Right
Hon. Friend, and he should, therefore, vote for it.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that there
were guards over the Fees of professional men that no
others were subjected to. If any Officers of the
Courts made an exorbitant charge, the Attorney
would be sure to tell his Clerk that he bad paid too
much. There was another guard over them, and that
was by taxing the costs. In short, it was impossible
that any extortionate Fees could be taken without the
Judges in open Court making themselves parties to the
extortion of their Officers. He, therefore, asserted,
that nothing of the kind could happen. As to thee*.
pedition fees, there were none. It was tree that there
was sometimes additional money paid for additional
hands, merely to get business done, which could not
otherwise be got ready in time. Far thew reasons 1
he opposed the motion.
Mr. HAWTHORNE said be bad inquired, ant
found that there had been a considerable Manse of
Fees in the Courts of Ireland.
. Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY said, that there was
no imputation cast, or intended to be cast, on the
Judges ; but a proper and Parliamentary proceeding
should not be lost on account of a mistaken notion or
indiscreet expression. In his conscience, he believed
there were Officers who took Fees few expediting the
business of suitors, though it might be difficult to
prove it.--[The ATTORNEY-GIL/MAL said across the
table, 44 As Fast"]—He did believe it existed as
Fees, and that too in many offices. How mischie-
vans such a practice must be, was evident; for that
expedition which was purchased by the rich-suitor,
was taken from the poor one. As his Honourable
and Learned Friend talked that it was impossible that
any abuses in Fees could exist, be wondered what
had so much altered the times for the better now.
There was nothing new in the motion of his Right
Honourable Friend—it was only similar to that of
1798, and therefore he should support the motion.—
He did not believe that abuses existed with the know.
ledge or connivance of the Judges.
Mr. &Trims and Sir SAMUIL ROMILLY mutually
explained.
The BOLICITOR-GENERAI. said, the Right
Hon. Gentleman had said, be believed there was
something wrong in the mode of collecting the fees
lin Courts of Justice. If such was his opinion, the
Right Hon. Gentleman ought, as he might well have
done, to have pointed out some particdar instances.
This 1w might easily have does, as all these fees were
publicly taken. And never during the whole course
of his practice in Westminster
Hall. had he ever
beard of a single instance of abuse on this subject ;
and
than he
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to
oanad thataate that
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nothing in which the Judges were more particular
th
evil for which a person might so said b '
y_o tam redress
as for a wrong of this description. He thought no
grounds w4ittever had been laid for this d
motion, ar.
therefore he should oppose it.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE was in favour of the fro.
tioa. He could not perceive any objection which the

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Judges could have to Iparliainensary em
if all was correct. WOsW ultimata', taw
their bond*.
Mr. GORDON did not nseatt to imp
Striotiper to the high Officers of the Coot
but he was in favour of the motion, becatil
it might lead to a mode of paying th
Officers in Courts Of Justice in a aunt
pourable to them.

Mr: WETHERALL thought the
grounds for the motion, to be found in
made to the House. From these it wa
increase of Fees had taken place either •
gench or Court of Chancery ; and he
Honourable Baronet would have had
grounds for his motion before these
Suade to the House.
Sir J. NEWPORT replied, and e.
had made out a case for Parliamentary
denied that any imputation would be
Judges by such an enquiry—an enquiry
the duty of the House to institute from
The House then divided—For the
Against it, 48—Majority for the moti..
TUX SLATS TMADX.
Mr HORNER moved that the A
House to the Prince Regent of-the Sd
his Royal Highness's Answer, be read,
been done, the Honourable Gentleman
Moving for the eocements which he sh..
in the conclusion of his speech, he di
any final determination, but merely to .
in possession of information previous
consideration of the important subject
came before them to-morrow. He re
taut Treaty which, slier 20 years of w.
peace to Europe. Many and moteim
the 'circumstances embraced by that T
dee was more so than that of the al
Slave Trade ; and with respect to this
net mean to say that the Noble Lord,
charged such important duties on this .
country, so honourable to himself, bad
which could be done on this subject. He
t 6 deny that peace *at impracticable wit
cession; but he must have much fulle
before he couldbelieve such to have been
he must have more time before he co
self to decide whether war would not It
ferable to peace, with such a provision
He understood the Noble Lord last n
' ould have been highly impolitic to h
this question of the Slave Trade with t .
htoration of the colonies. He must
see no such impolicy. In his opinion,
have united the two questions ; and
up the colonies without some undertaki
of France to give up this abominabl
giving op those means which the even
had given us of carrying a very tavotei
this kingdom. The Noble Lord's
have been correct ; but he did think tl
'ions to going into a discussion of the
portant question of the Treaty. should '•
session of documents to prove that
every opportunity, in corjunction WI
to obtain this desirable object. He m
peat, that, in his opinion, without ma
ing up the Slave Ttede the der rid
the giving up the Colonies should hav
wed. prod entirely upon this concessio
of the Freoch Covessunent. Was
aware .of the proportion which the
Trade bore to that of the other Po
uestion was first taken tip by the &i •
t that time the population of dip
ndia Islands in Slaves was 800,
ber required to keep them up was 40,
..—This then would be the first effect of
measure ; but this was not all, the F ,
have that population also to replace.
Cells during the last IS years, we had
the whole northern coast of Africa 1.
Trade : but by the restoration of I
Ito the French, we had thrown open •
of coast to the French and Portuguese
and all its horrors ; and this was the int
of this Treaty with the Bourbons. No
case in which the House would be sa •
word of i Minister, that he had wed
done all in his power on this occasion
case in which the House would think p
a confidence in the word of any Min
- for no written documents—and that, ,
when the production of such document
tended with no inconvenience ? The
observed, the Noble Lord had said the
appeared to be wedded tb this object
any other; and that they would by no
bp : this was so contrary to'the gen
and conduct of the French nation, that
to be credited. Considering, therefore,
Lord had so greatly disappointed the
pectations of the House and the Co
bead ; considering that the Noble Lc.
the other potentates were anxious this
be carried ; and considering the re
which France wac, it required more
he possessed to believe all the exertio
been used on this occasion. He conci
ing an Address to the Regent for c
monstrance' made by this Govcrnm
and of the communications made to
our Ministers on the subject of the
Trade.

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Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the (
the Hon. Member was certainly fair, In .1
sense. Thrugh it was impo!sible for
see that in this covert way a charge ss
be brought, against Ministers for havi
ing in their exertions to obtain 'hi.
thought he might be allowed to ask
appeared in any pact of the conduct c
present Government on this important
could cause such suspicion to be ente
that they would be found failing In
when exertion would have been most

must, howevrr, he allowcd to compl.
nouraLle Member ou the pcint of tinit:
selected fir bring 3g h:s notice,
- evening preceding thataprointed fur
tof Tteaty involving the most imp
of this country and of Europe. TI.I
mon before be brought forwArcl Lis
ought to have been in possession cf
• be. Aarinr NOV* to- hive otinsio
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Judges could have to a Parlianientary enquiry ; which,
if all was correct, would ultimately tend so much to
iheir honour. ...
Mr. GORDON. did not mean to i'Mptite any thing
ltr Proper to the high Officers of the Courts of Justice;
but he was in favour of die motion, because he thought
it might lead to a mode of paying the salaries of
brficers in Courts of Justice in a manner more ho.
pourable to them.
Mr. WETHERALL thought there were no
grounds for the motion, to be 'found in the Returns
made to the House. From these it was apparent no
increase of Fees had taken place either in the King's
Bench or Court of Chancery ; and he thought the
Honourable Baronet would have had much better
grounds for his motion before these Returns were
Made to the House.
Sir J. NEWPORT replied, and contended that he
had made out a case for Parliamentary enquiry. Lie
denied that any imputation would be cast on the
v Judges by such an enquiry—an enquiry which it was
the duty of the House to institute from time to time.
The House then divided—For the motion 49
Against it, 48—Majority for the motion 1,
TUE SLAVE TRAM .
Mr. HORNER moved that the Address of the
House to the Prince Regent of-the Mof May, and
his Royal Highness's Answer, be read, which having
been done, the Honourable Gentleman said, that in
Moving for the docaments which he should enumerate
in the conclusion of his speech, he did not seek fore
any final determination, but merely to put the House
in possession of information previous to going into
consideration of the important subject which was to'
come before them to-morrow. He meant the impor-
tant Treaty which, after 20 years of war, had given
Feace to Europe. Many stud most.important were
the circumstances einbraced by that Treaty, but no
otle was more so than that of the abdition of the
Slave Trade ; and with respect to this subject, he did
tint mean to say that the Noble Lord, who had dis-
charged such important duties on this occasion to the
country, so honourable to himself, had not done all
which could be done on this subject. He did not mean
to deny thatpeacesras impracticable without this con-
- tension; but he must have much fuller information
before he couldbelieve sUch to have been the fact; and
he must have more time before he could bring him-
self to decide whether war would not have been pre-
ferable to peace, with such a provition attached to it.
He understood the Noble Lord last night to say it
leould have been highly impolitic to have mixed up
this question of the Slave Trade with that of the re-
ktoration of the colonies. He Must confess he could
see no such impolicy. In his opinion, we ought to
have united the two questions ; and that, in giving
up the Colonies without some undertaking on the par:.
of France to give up this abominable trade, was
giving op those means which the events of the war
had given us of carrying a very tavowite object with
this kingdom. The Noble Lord's conduct might
have been correct ; but he did think the House, pre-
vious to going into a discussion of the great and im-
portant question of the Treaty, should be put in pos-
session, of documents to prove that he had taken
every opportunity, in conjunction with the Allies,
to obtain this desirable object. He must again re-
rat, that, in his opinion, without making the giv-
ing up the Slave Trade the sire qua otos of Peace,
the giving up the Colonies should'have been made'
•- -fwd. peed ehurely upon this concession on the part
of the French Government. Was the Nohle Lord
. ' aware of the proportion which the French Slave
Trade bore to that of the other Powers, when this
uestion was first taken up by the British Serrate ?
?i
t that time the population of dip. French West
ndia Islands in Slaves was 800,0 A and the num-
ber required to keep them up was 40,000 annually.
4—This then would be the first effect of this impolitic
measure ; but this was not all;the FrenCh would now
have that population also to replace. -By our exer-
tiens daring the last 15 years, we had nearly relieved
the whole northern coast of Africa from the Slave'
Trade : bat by the restoration of Goree and Senegal
"to the French, we had thrown open 'all that portion
of coast to the French and Portuguese Slave Trade,
and all its horrors ; and this was the immediate effect
of this Treaty with the Bourbons. Now was this a
case in which the House would be satisfied with the
( 'word of I Minister, that he had acted zealously, and
c.- done all in his power oa this occasion ? Was this a
case in which the House would think proper to place
a confidence in the word of any Minister, , and call
for no written documents—and that, too, at a time
When the production of such documents could be at-
tended with no inconvenience ? The Hon. Member
observed, the Noble Lord had said the French people
appeared tube wedded tb this object more than to
any other; and that they would by no means give it,
op : this was so contrary to'the general profession
and conduct of the French nation, that it was scarcely
to be credited. Considering, therefore, that the Noble
Lord had so greatly disappointed the hopes and ex-
• pettations of the House and the Country on this
bead; considering that the Noble Lord had said all.
the other potentates were anxious this measure shoulik;
be carried; and considering the reduced stare in
~which France was, it required more credulity than
he possessed to believe all the exertions possible had,
been used en this occasion. He toncluded by mcv-
ing an Address to the Regent for copies of the re-
monstrances made by this Government to France,
and of the communications made to the Allies by
our Ministers on the subject of the African Slave

Trade.
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Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the course taken by
the Hon. Member was certainly fair, in a parliamentary
sense. Though it was impossible for any one not to
see that in this covert way a charge was intended to
be brought against Ministers for having been ',w-
ill in their exertions to obtain this object. He
thought he might be allowed to ask what had ever
appeared in any pin of the conduct of his Majesty's
present Government on this important subject, which
could cause such suspicion to be entertained now, as
that they would be found failing in their exertions,
when exertion would have been most desirable. He
must, however, be allowed to complain of the Ho-
nourable Member on the point of time, which he had
selected for bringing his notice, namely, on the
- evenin preceding that-appointed for the discussion
' isf k Treaty involving the most important •interests
of- this country and of Europe. The Hon. Gentle-
man before he biciught forward his present charge
ought to havebeen in possessionot thelpiestion in ali its
abearilr bught lutve4insitietcd %tether it
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`WOnl~ hive been pindeni (or a Ministet to have
Kessed this point so far as to have dissolved a great
alliance, and to have lett thii country to Maintain a
war alone against Francei—or whether, if a conces-
sion on this subject had ken forced from Franceohe
would have afterwards regarded it any longer than
absolute. necessity forced her to do so. Under all the
circumstances of this motion, he did think he was
authorised to say it was at least uncourteotv, if not
unparliamentary, thus to bring forward a motion only
one evening previous to going into a discussion on a
Treaty which had been on the tole of the House
near a month, with no other view as it appeared, than
to send the question to discussion with a prejudice
upon it. In the course of the debates of last night it
was said, the French Government appeared deter-
mined to keep the people in the dark as to what was
pasiing in this country on this subject. Now, un-
fortunately for this argument, French Papers had ar-
rived in this country; and in the columns of the Mo-
was inserted, at full length, the whole proceed-
ings of the Meeting which took place at the Free-
masons' Tavern during the last week. The Noble
Lord then proceeded to defend the restoration of the
Colonies ; 'and observed, that in two instances at
least, those of St. Domingo and Cayenne, this coun-
try could have no right to interfere. Whilst the
Honour able Gentleman had been so anxious to charge
Ministers with neglecting this great cause on the side
of France, he had totally forgotten how Much had
been done in Holland for the cause. He trusted this
country would pursue this great question with as
much constancy, and that the result would be as suc-
cessful as the result in the late important contest on-
the Continent had been ; but he was ready to declare
his opinion, that by persuasion alone would that cause
be benefited; and if Gentlemen really wished to be-
nefit the cause of Africa, they must restrain their vir-
tuous feelings within the bounds of reason. The
Noble Lord concluded, by declaring, that this corre-
spondence coul4 not be produced without great pub-
lic inconvenience pending the approaching Congress,
and for that reason he Should oppose the motion.
Sir S. ROMII.LY combated the statements of the
last speaker. The Noble Lord had no right to com-
plain of the time at which the motion had been made,
as it had been deferred to suit the convenience of
others, and even at the request of the Noble Lord.
He entered fully into the feelings of France on the
o 1-4tion, shewing its operation in Africa and the West
Ind es. The Noble Lord had entreated the House
not to cloud this moment of exultation, of feasting,
and gladness ; but while we were thus regardless of
the interests of justice and humanity, who could say
that in the midst of our banquet the hand was not on
wall inscribing the characters of our condemna-
tion. He concluded, cautioning those who on the
present occasion maintained a criminal silence,. not to
accept of any favours in future from Ministers, or
their consciences must tell them that those favours
were bought with the blood of Africa! (Hear, hear).
Mr. S rEPHEN rose, and in a speech of great
warmth, said the last observation was applied to him.
He repelled it with indignation. He had never lost
sight of that great cause ; he called on GOD to wit-
ness, that he never would. Living eleven years in
the West Indies, he had submitted to every expedient
rather than possess a slave. He had exposed himself
to every danger-on account of his opinions; and he
had resisted solicitations from a, dear friend, now no
more (Mr. Percival) to enter public life, fearing he
should be obliged to oppose those to whom he owed
so much, for aboliihing the abominable traffic in hu-
man blood. Nevertheless, he would vote against the
motion. because he thought, from his soul, that, as the
Noble Lord' had said, the production of the pipers
moved tor would be injurious, to the cause. He was
informed by an American Gentleman, that in Cape
,
Franl mis, the very bet _) 1_41.1 was-desecrated lay the must
'detestable .al orgies, letting loose blood-hounds
absolutely W some of those wretched beings.
He argued trim references to General.Leclerc's dis-
patches, and from the defence set up tur Rocham-
beau. that the Slave Trade was kept up in bt. Do-
niiego, with a view to the conquest of Jamaica. He
still thought a good bargain was made for the cause,
and vowed that if the Nolsle Lord, or airy of his (Mr.
Stephen's) friends in administration were found insin-
cere, " that GOD might not spare him, if lie spared
them." He voted with the fullest conviction of the
propriety of his vote, not,considering the Honourable
and Learned Gentleman, (Sir S. Roniiiiy,) the keeper
of his conscience or his judge.
Sir S. ROMILLY explained. He intended no per-
sonal attack on the Hon. and Learned Gentleman,
but had him in his mind among others.
Mr. STEPHEN was satisfied with the explanation.
Mr. DOUGLAS and Mr- BARHAM supported
the motion, and Mr. BAN KES opposed it.
.Mr. PONSONBY saw no reason for refusing the
production of those Papers, for the Noble Lord had
not shewn how that could affect the discussions at
the Congress.
Mr. W. SMITH thought the papers unnecessary.
Mr. HORNER replied, and said, that finding the
House was not of his opinion, he should not press his
motion to a division.
The motion was then negatived without a division.
Adjourned at ONE O'CLOCK. •
PRO lEST
AGAINST THR REJICTION Or LORE GRINVILLI'S 510T1055
UPON 11155 rM INCA lILAVE TRADE.
biSSINTIENT—Because, in the Article of the Treaty of Peace
lately coneluded at Paris, rt-spectind the African Slave Trade, a
public interest of the first importance has been sacrificed, and,
as we firmly believe, without any necessity or adequate cause ;
this inhuman traffic being, under the sanction of that Article, re-
vived and continued in the Coluo,ies which we have surrendered
to France, fur the term of five years ; and an immense district
on the Continent of Africa, which had been entirely relieved
from it, again exposed to all evils which must flow front its
re-establishineut.
Because, deeply impressed with the horrors of a commerce
which thelumanity ut the Legislature had prohibited, and which
is described, in the Article above referred to, as repugnant to the
print iples of natural jiistice,noti of an milightenedage, this House
had umnit.musly addressed hi, Royal Highness the Prince Re-
gent to employ the whole weight and influence of this country,
in the late negotiations for peace, to procure its general and tit..
tire abolition ; and because it is incumbent on Ministers to bhew
from what causes the endeavours which it was their duty to make
for the attainment of this important object have failed, under
circumstances which were undeniably must highly favourable
to their httccess.
iiie4u,.e, ;his- proof tan only be given by the production of the
papers which have passed during the late neguciation upon this
subject, as was admitted to be usual iA CMS of Wore; sod be-
cause no sufficient reason for withholding such information, in
the present instance, veil given in the debate. (Jigised)
Aucurrus FRIDERICIL (Duke of Susses),
Winton Fissures (Doke of Glouractr),
Gus', • - LoossoodiLs,
Gutitormtit, Ilassau. tinsi.asa.

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• •

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 29, 1814.
ST. Paz at the Stock At:Lange. •

A Dutch Mail arrived this morning, It furnishei
the pleasing intelligence that the new Government of
Holland has taken some decided measures to pre-
vent all tragic in slates under the Dutch flag, or in
the colonies belonging- to Holland. We select the
following articlet :

AMSTERDAM, JUNE 24,

The following Notice has been published here :
" The Board of Trade hereby informs all whom it may con'
tern, that it has been acquainted by his Excellency the Secretary
of State for Foreign Affairs, that by a Decree of his Royal High-
ness our Sovereign Prince, dated the 15th instant, no Ships or
Vessels shall be cleared out or dispatched from any Port of the
United Netherlands, Which are designed to fetch Negroes from
the Coast of Africa, or from any of the blands belonging to that
Continent, and to convey them to the Continent, or Islands of
America; and that all such Ships or Vessels designee. for the
Slave Trade shall be refused admittance at every fort, factory,
colony, or possession, on the Coast of Guinea.
" The Vice-President of the Board of Trade,
Haarkm Coerce, Jim 23. (Signed) " Sivalia."
AIX-LA-CHAVELLE, JUNE 19.
The establishment of the DOuane along the French
frontiers having caused a general alarm here, Mr.
Sack, Governor-General of the Middle and Lower
Rhine, has published a Proclamation, in which he
says he has applied on this point to Baron Stein, who
answered him, that this measure was in consequence
of the new frontiers given to France, but that there
could be no objection to protect the manufactures of
these provinces, by adopting similar measures against
•
the French commerce.