Star.
London, England, 1823-07-10 00:00:00

OUR FOREIGN RELATIONS.

Colonel PALMER said he now rose, pursuant to
his notice, to bring forward his motion on this sub.
ject; and he was induced to do so by a conviction of
the dangerous situation of this country, and on u.
count of the language of the late Address to the
Crown. In his opinion that Address ought to hare
expressed the indignation of the House at the conduct
of the Holy Alliance; by not doing so, we had chews
a want of feeling, or a fear of expressing it; and by
so doing had endangered the independence of Spain,
at all times so necessary to this country. Looking at
the present state of agriculture and of manufactures,
at our present load of taxation, and at our preset
enormous national debt, how, he would ask, could
we be prepared to enter on a new contest ? Yet the
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs had acknow-
ledged that by the policy we were now pursuing, we
must, sooner or later, be dragged into a contest; but
if the general cry for Reform was attended to, and
the unanimously expressed wish of the people to en-
gage in a contest for the liberties of mankind, the
energies of the people would soon change the face
of our affairs, and enable us, not only to defend our.
selves, but to protect all the world against tyranny
and oppression ; and he must consider that the Eng-
lish Ministers had, by their conduct at Congress, whet
this country ought to have taken the lead, been more
to blame than the Ministers of France. A Noble
Lord, in his speech on a former night, had said that
he verily believed had England said no, France would
not have gone to war. The Noble Lord might have
gone further, for had England boldly declared in fa.
your of Spain, France, instead of submitting to the
directions of the Holy Alliance, would have thrown
herself into the arms of England ; but the conduct of
ourown Government had prevented this circumstance
from taking place; and they,had adopted a course
which, sooner or later, would not fail to involve min
a contest, the result of which no man could foresee.
No man could look to this but as a contest which
had admitted of no compromise; for it was bne be-
tween despotism and the rising liberties of Europe.
It was for this reason that he wished the Representa-
tives of the People of England to speak out, and be
friend the cause of social order, morality, and hums,
nity, in Europe. It was not the interest of England
alone that was concerned, but the interest of the
whole world. It was not a change of Ministers that
could save this country, but a change of measures—
protecting the public creditors, whilit they pursued
a system of rigid retrenchment, which the preset
Ministers never adopted until driven to it. He thus
moved fan a copy of any instructions to Sir Vi
A'Court, for the regulation of his conduct, in respect
to any changes to be made in the Constitution fi
Spain, by the Cortes. He had no wish, however,
divide the Homse on, the question.
The motion was then negatived without a divide&
CHIZY BARON O'GRADY.
The adjourned debate on the conduct of the chid
Baron O'Grady was then ordered to be resumed.
Mr. GOULBURN moved, as an amendment to
the Resolution, that the Chief Justices of the Commas
Pleas in Ireland have been in the habit of increasia
the fees of suitors in their Court, at their pleasure.
After some observations from Mr. Rica and $s
&MUST; the Amendment was carried without
division.
Mr. S. RICE moved an Amendment to the Reef
lution, that it was not stated that the increase of fee
took place at the discretion of the Judges for Oa
own sole emolument.
Mr. SCARLLTT and the SOLICITOR-GRNERAL ag
posed the Amendment.

Mr. R. SMITH had wished the regulations poll-
poned till next Session. As the la* now stood_ 3
Judge might find it necessary to raise his own fel*
without any corrupt motive. But from the cid
I•Baron's conduct he could not acquit him of culpalak
rand corrupt motives. Still be had much rather lssOt
his case stand over till the House was ko a.6t
,statew
fudge of it.
Captain O'GRADY contended, that although the
Chief Baron might be considered as judicially wrong/
he was not to be accused.of corrupt motives.
Mr. PEEL thought it unfair to keep the charsa
hanging over the head of the Chief Barrio. If 1199
opinion were asked whether a Judge increased his
own fees properly, when he was leg4lly authorised to
do so? he would• say, at once, that an individual s 0
situated should abstain from the *se of such an tor
thority ; and he would therefore propose, that a NI
should be brought in to abolish the practice in I,r
ture; but he could not consent either to remove die
Chief Baron, or to impeach him at the Bar. •
Sir H. PARNELL thought the House was Pot

ared to come to any judgment on the case in the
PreP •
r event Session.
• 'Lord A. HAMILTON would wish some Honour-
able Member to move, that the House should then
adjourn; but he would not move the adurnment.
'Plr. HUTCHINSON wished the House to relieve
both the Chief Baron and itself from their present
embarrassing situation. He was, therefore, ready to
cometo a decision then, rather than have these changes
hang over the head of the Chief Baron till another
cession ; or he was ready to go into a further investi-
gation, night after night, of these chargec,.or to ac-
quit the Chief Baron altogether.
Mr. WYNN wished them to come to a decision on
these Resolutions, on which there was no difference
ci opinion.—The Amendment was withdrawn.
SCARLETT then rose, and observed, that
after a mature consideration of the subject before the
'oose, he had come to that conclusion that he had
prepared certain Resolutions which he had intended
;o move by way of amendment on the original Reso-
utinns. After what bad passed, however, he would
content himself with moving one of them only, viz.
That this House does not think it necessary, under
211 the circumsr,inces that have been stated, to adopt
any pruceeding in regard to the conduct of the Chief
Baron of Ireland."—Mr. HUNE seconded the motion.
Mr. C. WYNN could not agree in this Resolution.
Ile thought the Tulles: investigation should take place,
even though it was by impeachment. The purity of
a Judge, like the chastity of a woman, or the cou-
rage of a soldier, should he without a stain.
Mr. Alderman BRIDGES was of opinion the House
should not separate without expressing an opinion.
The character of a Judge should not only be unim-
rached, but unimpeachable.
Captain O'GRADY defended the conduct of the
Chief Baron, who had acted on an error of judgment,
and not from any corrupt motive, and to charge him
with having done so, would be the height of injustice.
Mr. WETHERELL agreed with his Hon. and
Learned Friend, the Member for Peterborough, in
what he had stated, and should support his Resolution.
Mr. R. MARTIN did not mean to contend that the
Chief Baron had a legal right to all the fees he had
taken; but if the House could believe that he received
these fees without a corrupt motive, a fact which he
thought all the circumstances of the case went to
prove, that would, in his opinion, form grounds sum-
dent to justify the House in adopting the proposition
of the Member for Peterborough.
Mr. H. GURNEY proposed, as an amendment ne-
cessary to lead that of the Member for Peterborough,
that the House should agree to so much of the sub-
stance of the original Resolutions as was contained in
these words—" That the receipt of fees by the Judges
of the Courts of Common Law and of Exchequer in
Ireland has been recently abolished by law."
This amendment was, after a few words from Mr.
R. SMITH, immediately adopted, and the question
was then put on the amendment proposed by Mr.
SCARLETT.

Mr. J. WILLIAMS opposed the Resolution, on
the ground that to do so would be to disregard pub-
lic opinion, and the Report of the Committee.
Mr. GOULBURN thought public opinion ought,
whenever it was practicable, to be attended to; but
they had another duty also to perform, and that was
to take care that, in attending to the expres)ion of
public opinion, they did not do injustice to an indi-
vidual. It was not sufficient to say, that they would
have been glad if a Judge had not taken such and
such fees, to induce him to adopt the doctrines of
the Honourable Member for Lincoln ; but, before
he could adopt such a course as that taken by the
Honourable and Learned Gentleman, he must see
a corrupt motive actuating the individual against
whom the charge was brought. So far from
the Chief Baron having been actuated by a corrupt
desire of gain, he had, since his appointment, given
up certain fees amounting to a considerable sum, to
which, under the Table of Fees contained in the re-
port he was entitled.
After a few words from Mr. CANNING and Mr. S. RICE,
the House divided—Fur the Resolution 55—Against it 16—
Majority for proceeding no further 32.
The Lancaster County Court Bill was read a third time.
The New South Wales Jurisdiction Bill was committed ; and
the House adjourned at Four o'Clock this morning.

THE SPITALFIELDS ACTS.
Tuesday, the Lords Committee to whom the Silk
Manufacture Bill, to repeal the " Spitalfields Acts"
was referred, closed their labours. Their Lordships
then agreed to the Report which was to be presented
to the Home ; it was to the following effect :—" That
their Lordships Committee had examined the allega-
tions of the several Petitions regarding the Bill ; that
they had heard Counsel against and for the Bill ; that
they had also at great length examined witnesses on
the part of the opposers, as well as of the supporters
of the Bill ; that their Lordships had afterwards duly
considered the arguments and evidence so adduced;
and they thereupon agreed that the Bill be reported to
the House 'without any amendment." Such Report was
yesterday presented to the House by Lord BEXLEY,
read, and ordered to lie upon the table, and the Bill
was of course reported 44 without any amendment."
The Bill thus remains precisely what it was previous
to its being referred to the Committee.
The third reading was.not fixed. It was agreed
amongst their Lordships that a day for the third
reading should not be named till the evidence taken
before the Committee was printed and in the bands
of their Lordships. was ascertained that the print-
ing, as the evidence will occupy four or five hundred
folio pages, will not be completed till Saturday, so
that there was little chance of its getting generally
delivered to their Lordships till Monday. It there-
upon became the understanding amongst their Lord-
ihips that the third reading should be named on Mon-
day or Tuesday next.
The Journeymen Weavers, having understood that
the Committee had closed their inquiries and delibe-
rations, yesterday assembled around the House of
Lords in great numbers, in the expectation that some-
thing would be done with the Bill—that, in fact, the
third reading would be moved. Though the crowds
wete very cons4ierable, quite as numerous as on any.
former day, they behaved with all their accustomed
decorum, preserving passage-ways for their Lord-
ships carriages to approach the Peers' entrances. The
Weavers on the present occasion exhibited large
Printed placards, setting forth that The Journeymen
Weavers earnestly but sincerely implore the Lords not
to pass the Bill." The men remained till late in the
afternoon, when having ascertained that nothing was
to dune on the Bill, they quietly dispersed.

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

THURSDAY, JULY 10, 1823.