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London, England, 1812-05-02 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS•

- . HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY 1.
The Irish Arpeal;Cause, " Giffard o. Hort, lilarts.7being taken
into final Cousitieragon, their Lordships came to a Resolution,
as their udgment flpon the case, on the motion of Lord RED.,
DESDALE,tending partly to reverse the-Decree of the Irish Ex-
- chequer,.and.partly ttiremit it, wit* directions for ulterior pro-
ceeding on the part 9f that Court. , -
Their Lord-hips then adjourned for some time during Pleasure,
sent! at about five o'clock the House resumed.
The 13,11 s upon the table were forwarded in their respective
stages. Among these, the Irish Public Accounts Audit, and the
Irish Military Accounts Audit llills, were read a third time and
passed. • .
Mr. Lusitimnrost brought up's Message fi om the Commons,
-requesting a' copy of the 4th Report of their Lordships Committee
upon the affairs of the-Esit-ludia Company.
'1 he Irish Partmrship-Regulation Bill was brought up- by. the
same Gentleman and read a first time. Stveral,private and local
bills were pi twined by Lord d'itsseurrown, Mr. Du lt, DAS, Mr. i
Key RIC it, and other Members.
• • The Plate and Tension Duty Bill passed through a Committee
of the whole House, and;was reponed without amendment. i
It was ordried, on the motion of the Earl of LAUDER.;
DALE, that there be laid before the House ati .-,:count of the
number of Notes issued by the Bank of England, from its Nat
establishment in 11394, to the year 1797, distinguidlis g the amount
of each ilionth, Asc. . I
CHARGE MADE MI THE AMERICAN-GOVERNMENT.
Lord HOLLAND. pursuant to what he st-ited
• ext a former eveuisig, called the attention of their.
Lordships again to this subject. He said, he con-
• . iessed it was with some surpnse, and with still more
. ' regret, that he irarnedit was the intention of Minis-
ters to rtsistlia.prorsed.motion f r what he deemed
• inclispensibiy fiettsniry intimation for the satisrac-
"- tiocrof tic licnite woe thecountry.' There ware do-
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. ~ cnmasta.conttected with the transaction .alltuled to,
the 'authenticity. of which the Noble Earldidnot seem
' -, to coradict.• He' thought it best to leaie.explana-
tion in the first instance; to Ministeit themselvet.
'4:Noble Secretary did hat state it *at his intention
its. Ming forwari any papers on the occasion. When
' old first notified his intention to move for these docti-
, rhents, he cnte(tained a firm opirvictinis that the Ka-
hle Secretary was not inclined to resift such a .prtice-
- durc, As inother import-int topic was about to come
under their Lordship.' consideretion this 'eseuiog, he
''.. should not now pOiis intended motion, but he
should being it forwis ruesday next ; and would
move-that the Lorcli:bt'summoped Op that occasion.
• %Vliat he reposed then to move ft,r, was, for copies
of all corneluoicatilins shade by the late Sir ft Clitig,
' toltis.Majesty's Secretary of state, respecting the em-
plortfer4 of Mr. Henry, on a secret mission to the
'United, States'Of America. Also,- for a copy of.the
..cOrtiiporitlence with General Prevost on the subject
- of the.compeusation claimed by Captain Henry ; and
`:sibs tor a coprof the instructions sent hp the Secre.
. 'tart'' State to Sif.iacaespraig, respecting the em-
f...,., plponen,LoS, ,si. terfptici protnee.iplormlion respect-
_ tog.the uluteo 4tatest AilieS.Cll.. ._'
La.*fhf Earl of LIV 10001.,.iiid;that whenever
tir Noble Damp Op* bring footatti his motion hf

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sleneld be perfectly ready to state the- grounds rn i en- ed on the Sfst ult. restive' to Captain Xing% claim, were lof the Constitution. The .erertion of barrow
'which he dewed it his duty to opkose thugroductim ordered to be printed. an .itery tech oh eves unftvent is'e to .
Mr. J. SMI l'H presentee la Petition from Nottingham siabisi --, ' • , ' a. Iconst tut!
Of those doctiments, and to stutesuch circetiostanas certain fraudulent practices, in the stocking manufacture' .
,1,- 1 berty : and he feared t ,at the young nes n t.euC
of the transaction us to induce him to form finch a A.. A 1i
—re:— to ..e on the table. • - I Marlow and Sandhurst would not imbibe tent
c,.nclusion. He was ready to meet the Noble Baron 'I he Message of the Lords respect% the fourth Report of the • and patriotic pi ieziples width were inculcated
t a tic subject weeny day ; to that specified .he had East India Atlairs, was taktor isitu•l untie! con"dcra""' and 1 public SrhOols. Theerection of barrack, at '
no ebjection, lie diets was no intention of opposing rated Copyloi„ of the Report. was ordered to be sett to their ,
b.mitz was quite unnecessary, es t'xre were
the intended motion of refzrring the Petitions of tie Mr. MARTIN brought in a Bill to regulate the Offices of trooos in the vicinity if Loodoe, who could be
Manufacturers to a Committee of the whole House. Deputy ReinembranCer of the Court of Excheiscr. Read a into the capital in caae of any ennergency.
ll oRDLRS IN COUNCIL. hoe ttme,n and ordered to be :cad a second time oil Fr day, an 1d • Mr. AV H A it•rox replied to the sevetel at
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to be priExcted.
!• h ite Eatl of LAUDE DAE 1., in reference to. 1 •
Ile ise Superannuation Bill was read a second time, and Which Iced been advanced against the vote.
' what the Noble Secretary of State had just intimated, ordered to be committed On Mon-lay. ' i served, the barracks in the neighbutieaood,
said it would be desirable to know when it was meant The General Enclosure bill was read -a second time, and or- i; pool had been declared absolutely necessary
dered to be committed on ehisalay three weeks.
the House should go into the Committee, what time I House ♦voting &WOG for the erection oldie
ontiooto
would be set aside for those proceed ngs ? Many of laidOnbetteremtohtei
l‘seira.CAln Account ,dthiee"Nuwlllabs
torrteintedectruo be.t,
not render it impossible to change the place
the petitioners came from different parts of the court- i raised monthly, from .CR AFai•
the gtth Decent!), t, isi I, to the 54th •erection from Evertein to some other spot. Grin
try ; they must be prepared against the time. They April, IBIS, by ordinaay
had-other business to attend to, and it would highly
• inconvenience them to-experience unnecessary delays.
• The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that with regard
to the course of preceding, eves y proper attention
should be paid to the personal accommodation cf the
individuals alluded to. Th : iaquiry 51..0.i1d go on as , and Colonial Corps. Recruiting, exclusive of the foreign 1
R On the motion of Mr. W. POLE, Copies of the I Sth and I 4th
eports of the Board of Education' in Ireland, were ordered to
be laid before the House.
A person from the Office of the Chief Secretory for Ireland,
immediately presented the above, which were
the table. ordeted to he yll had talked of the increase of Barracks •it .
1 well if they would consider the increase'd the
He would put it to these Gentlemen to ray,
if all the Barracks in the country•were tube destro C, ye
and the pottery expended upon them c. old be recce
1 vered to the pubiic, they thought it would be posy.
ble to quarter the r intents of the line in the t•
Mr. WePOI.E gave notice that he would move the Miscel- 1.. 1 . aille
manner in which they ad been provided for prei in t%
long as their Lordships should threek proper, and he eineces Services for treelike!, in the Comnints of Supply, on
thought a set number of days should be given up for Monday . !to the erection ef those Barracksl The Honourable
the pu, pose. He had no objection to commencing Mr. WHARTON brought cep the Report a the Committee Gentleman then went into a defence of the props.
The enquiry
on an early day, and that Thursday next , ciirog,tihe Copper Duties. Agreed to, and a hill ordered accord- i sition for erecting Barracks in Mary-la.bonne park,
n outs' not be an improper time for the commencement. The Bill for better niannlng ships employed in the Southern and contended that, in an economical point of vies,
IRISH DISTILLERIES, &c. Whale Fishery was read a second time, and ordered to be core- . they were necessary, as the public were- at pre-
The Earl of DARN LEY, in adverting to the Bill matted on Monday. ! sent paying 45300 a-year for the sodding and officers
_ The CHANCELLOR Of•the EXCHEQUER brought in the lorigin in King-street only. The pr
for preventing Distillation from. Grain, then before opined barracks
Bil for t.e ranker preventson of the cohn7eifetting of Busk .
their Lordships' House, and repeating his regret the t Tokens. Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second In Mery.le-bonne-park, were to be built on the same
measure Was not earlier recurred to, pointedly ob. time on Monday. . plan with those in Hyde park ; and although she
served, thifon the day'it was known to be the deter-
be Report of the Embezzlement Bill was taken into fdrther sum, required for their erection was certainly a large
urination of Government, the Trice of oats fell from
consideration and agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be read : one, yet, considering the increased price of labour,
'
a third time on lbw-belay. i &c he was convinced they could not be bali
365. to 28s. per barrel in the Dublin market. A message from the lords announced their Lordships assent , ' bulk for less,
A conversation of considerable. length ensued,. in to the loth Auditors' 1111. • especially when it was recollected thatthese barracks
which the Earls of LIMERICK, DARNLEY, and. Lau. The reference of Mr. CourrON's Petition to the Committee ; were to have a parade and a riding-I:eine, which the
DERDALB were -the principal speakers. The first- of
ISnurctly, wasncp‘o. storpoynriedd.to
btlin°gliciaa)ef'. which, h the r I barracks
,in Hyde-park had not. Those in Hyde.
mentioned Peer referred to some detailed accounts in lation orZieueHouse, Ord:rYs of the Daayy,
precedeonNottyces o
s h
,e\gluo: park cost a',52,200, which was more in proportiou
his hand, in support of his positions on a for Mer
lions,
a conversation tosik place between Mr. Wit ITHR EAD and than .IEI33AM-would be for those proposed.
evening, viz. that no appearance whatever of scarcity the CILANcILLLOR of the LICRE4,2IVR, in the course of which 1 Mr. BANKES thought it should be considered
existed, at least in certain parts of Ireland, Limerick ettlr'nWrtuult7-tilhebtklif iactuktatteel, that if the expected debatei on the i whether Barracks equally serviceable might not have
in particu'ar, where such a degree of plenty prevail- Zed submit to le Houser4hlsesnLiolLtioi°l tfoirasttheeinptra
tutu:tett°
lumouhr,t he i been erected at less expence ; indeed, under all the
ed, as to admit of considerable exportations of corn Documents on which the Americans founded their charge against circumstances of the counu-y, he thought iewould
from thttt port ; not only large exportations to Scot- the British Government; but that, should that debate be pro.. be most prudent to defer the vote altogether till eel°.
land especially, and to other parts of Ireland, but to tracted to any length, he trusted that an ariangement would. be then year,
made, by which a subject .so grave, important, and pressing, i
General PHIPPS supported the original minion,
Gibraltar and other places. • might be brinight under the consideration of Parliiunent at as i
Previous ti; the discussion of the Gold Coin Bill, ouly U. period ma possible. and contended for the eecessity of the ()dicers being
Lord HOLLAND was desirous to be informed by RIOTING., lodged with the men. -
Ministers, whether the Bank of Ireland was by the The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave notice, Mr. C Rt.Ev Ey said, that instead of being loaded
Bill to be placed in the same predicament as the that on Monday he would move for leave to bring in a bill to ; with the expence of the present estimate for a bar-
Bank of England ? . extend the; provisiona of the Riot Act (which at present were . rack in the Regent's Park, lie had flattered himself
confined to dwelling-houses) to mills, niaft.tactortes, &c. Re-• -
Lords pitraWaST, KING, LAUDERDALE, HOLLAND, cent mturrences rendered this a very important consideration. :that the public would have been eased of part of dleir
Ross and Livetteooo took parts in the discu:sion, BARRACKs. I burdens by the greatetevante,bes which would aunts
Uatil. . . On the motion for taking into consideration the
-from selleig and letting off .the Crown Lands, of
• • Laid GREY reminded them that there was no Report of the Barrack Estimates, - .1 woichjhut park formed a part. He(Mt. Creevey)
question regularly before the House. Mr. W4-11TBREAD wished that some day might did not wish to give his consent to purls= out ire
BANK OF ENGLAND. be appointed for the discussion of this important sub-
hunJred and forty acres of land to promote dto Me.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE rote for the pur. ject, and which might have a precedence of other rest of Lord Gienbervie.
Col(bel•Woon spoke in support of the estimates ;
pose of submitting a motion to the House, which was Orders. . .
rendered highly Important in consequence of a Bill The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER . a''.l M" W.. WYNNE atoinst them.
then before their Lordships (the Gold Coin Bill), did not *think it necessary to devote any partieu-
Colonel BASTARD said, the barracks built SO
years ago were niuelt cheaper and more on
into which he hoped they would feel it to be their lar day to a question *that could be easily disposed
those raised at pfesent, :sal besides notd coelamkt:sting lull
duty to make the fullest investigation. By this Bill, of ; but he had nu objection to enter into the discus:'
they gave into the hands of 24 merchants the entire sion at any time that might be most convenient to the prise, were calculate) not only more for onion
vower over the King's Exchequer, by affording them the Hon. Gentleman. . •to the soldier, botbetter adapted to discipline.
.. (day
an unlimited issue of Bank paper ; and they also gave • Mr. FREEMANTLE thought there was nothing: of 'uatkn, Ptiii".)
into the poer of the merchants t) render it impos. in the Estimates that could induce -the" House to i Sir FRANCIS BURDETT s iid, he should 1*
`sible that the public• business could be carried on,,ps- agree to the very extravagant sums now called for. I sorry to trespass on the Howe, when be saw them se
no receiver would pay a million and a half of money He objected to several of the expeaces Proposed to impatient for the question, but he felt lies heti*
into. the Exchiquet, when he could procure Eecbe.. be incurred for the building of Barracks; and there- ject of such hth importance, that he could clot suf.
ter it to pout some obsery ,s. ludo g
quer Bills. He contended, that the adoption of this' fore the discussion on the subject ought to be put off
he was notass
iwithnfluenced by metives at lo
non .ce. incvenienthisce,
Bill, and the pursuance of the present system, would to a further day. Here the Honourahle Gentleman
et
render it impossible that the Bank should ever be able repeated his 'former objections to the Barracks at' the high prices of all the articles of which thee
to resume its cash payments ; besides, the Bill would. Mary-la-bonne,-Liverpool, /cc. He slid, that if the barracks were to be constinctedo—these were, ace-
to all intents and pill poses, m. ke Bankenotes a legal . House i to -the slims U:Pif required, there would questionably, maters well deserving considersnee•
; and ought to be attended to ;—but he looked to tee
tender. .He adverted to the evils resulting front a be no coiled/le expenditure intended hereafter to be
measure of building heracks in a far more important
multiplicity of country banks ; and declered that, if incurred in the erection of more. Barracks. The .
.;point of view : vie. as a question of great Containe
their Lordships would agree to his motion for going erection of the Cavalry Barracks would be eso e .
lionl importance, and as such it exis,ed in leis mind
into a Committee, to enquire info the transactions of ' sire, that each man and hOrse would cost the nation i
he would prove that the poor 4400. Unless, therefore some great and urgent rte-
paramount to the consideration of economy and ads&
the Bank since 1797,
matters of minor moment, From the first time he
man who holds °lie of these country notes losses 25 cessity pressed on the country, no such extravagancel
, the !had ever mentioned this subject in the If ousel he it3d
or 30 per cent. by it. His Lordship produced two as this should be tolerated. In the year 1809
paper tokens ; one of the house of Ingoldebv, and the' bxpences of Barracks had amounted to 13 millions. i always maintained that the erection of barracks was
I other that of Villiers, in Worcester, for 2s. 6d. ; the 1 At this moment the whole expence amounted to no ! highly unconstitutional ; and though it had been
i only difference between them being, that the one was , less than 1.5 millions. There was no subject of et- • slid that he possessed Jacobinical principles, wkidt
. induced him tcospeak of them in that manner, hefts's
tin red paper, and the ether on yellow ; and he de.; penditure that ought to be watched with it greater
I fled any one to say that such things had ever been i degree of jealousy. than this. The sum levied on the I then aed now, maintain that the object of Oottent
seen in a country white paper:currency was not I people for the last year was OS millions, being five' ment, in erecting barracks all over the country, Wats
j depreciated. If their Lordships looked at the state '.millions more thin on the preceding Year i and much I that they might use the troops paid by; the people to'
1- of the country, they would see reason to enquire most
I more would be wanted for the current year. Our subdue the pereA -...(Hear, hear.)—This was
niaterely into the probable effects of this Bill, which unfunded debt wa% above .50 millions. Therefore, i dently proved by the objections wade tot)*
he pronounced as tending to introduce a measure ! there never was a time when it became so necessary'; beings eparated
called from their officers, from
the •an •
which, wherever it had been introduced, was followed i•as at this moment to evirch Over and curtail by masionat when *
oot to subdue
by almost instant revolution. He then moved that ! possible means any expenditure hot abeolutely- neces.,i should be intercepted. An Honourable
the House should .go into a Committee to inquire sary. He concluded. iltnnuiving to pit of the Re-; appeared to him to be righoupon his own
into the transactions of the Governer and Company : pert for six months. •• ' when he said that this was the precise time .
, ofahe Bank of England since 1797. j. Mr. FREEMANTLE afterwards, on the sugges. ing barrack. He was right iu saying that
• Earl BATHURST 'denied that it would be ulti don of Mr. Beentes, withdrew his Amendment, and ought to be built, it it were the intention of
mately for the interest of the Bank Proprietors to the .Report was brought Up. 1 ment completely to subdue, the liberties,
over issue Bank paper, as. the profits must accrue to - On reading the Resolution voting
£524,000 for , us". The House bed been often told of the
the public. .He concluded by cpposing the motion. , Bereacks, I tion and tyranny of Bonaparte, but '-
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that last ' , Mr. BANKES moved as an Amendrmnt, to grant said now of our own Government, when it
year, on the Gold Coin Bill, he had felt* his. duty to £04,000, leaving out the 490,000 proposed for the i fessed that it was not now a Government/
move a clause to limit the issue of Bank-notes, because , "Berracks at Liverpool, Bristol, and Mary-la-bonne. ' but by the sword.-- (No, no, aeut 'hoots -
'he 'viewed the .whole of this system Us the greatest : General TA R LET,ON,said, that his Constituents lion from many Meinbere.) He would
finanCial evil that any country could- labour uuder.— had petitioned against-the proposed erection of these : the Administration now governed by
''For this reaion, therefore, he must now ;support the barracks at St. Domingoein the vicinity of Liverpool. I stead. f the law, and that the law did ion,
motion of his Noble Friend. Their reasons were, that a- number of villas had been I to time Magistrates to employ the military
Lord.SlDMOUTH•denied- that Bank-notes were built on the adjat vnt ground, and it was a favourite t employ them. Were not die soldiers
a legal tender; they. cootd only save a man from ar- spot, to which the merchants and mariners of Liver- I ting murders upon the people ? (Load,
rest or inesne proiess. The oseasuie of making them pool retired, after weathering- the storms Of life.— I order, and expression: 'of tt yiNtrobiliio.
a legal t,nder, had not yet been resorted to, and he Toe Duke of Gloucester, when Commander in Chief I not be deterred by any clan). Air which
hoped it would not be necessary ; but upon that head of the dialler, resided at St. Domingo, and he owed j from speaking the truth in his place es
he would give no opinion. .He saw no good grounds his residence there to the lucky ell eumstance if the ' Parliament.
•
for going into this Committee. death of a respectable Aldertnan— ( 4 laugh.) J General MANNERS rose to order.
The question was then put, and negatived without Mr. J. SMITH, aid, that the universal cry and Baronet was certainly at liberty to six:
but he was throwipg out a slierepon the
a 4iiiisinn, complaint, from one end of the kingdom to the other
The Gold Coin Bill went thiough a Committee.— at this moment was, extravagance in time expenditure Sir FRANCIS BURDETTeesumed.
Adjourned, 1 ofpublic money ; and he hoped, that .no money upon the army then he wished to throw '
. ! would be expended, unless upon things absolutely was the Administration of the country '
HOUSE OF COMMONS. ' necessary. The first distuthances in France, at the with employing the army to ceimetit
A new Writ was ordered forth. Borough of Langston, in the commencement of the. Revolution, atose out of the • Generel MANNERS expressed a.
rpom of the Hon. Captain Ba w a Kt, who, since his election, had ' extravagance of the Government. We could not pro- words should be ta.ken.down.
ae.epteg the Chiltern Hundreds. , teed in the course we were.going on in; and if we Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said, 1
• Mr. EYRE presented a Petition from Nottingham, complain- I -not so did-not economise our means, as to enable us to J
ob'eoion to any of his words being taken
tug of the ails which they suffered from rho' Practices of evil
a. es the Hon. General had called him to ,
' &posed persons, directed agaMit the stocking frames, am and caul on the war, we stood no chance of obtaining
praying relief. Ordered to lie otr the table. secure peace. . attempting to shew how he was oit
Mr. WILBERFORCE presented.a Petition from,the Ship. Mr. BATHURST did not think the demand for expressed a wish that his words should
wrighte of Bridlinvoo, against the encouragemew given to bsdiee • without moving ler it regularly, he
. erecting the new barracks too large for one year. , hag ships in the East Indies. Ordered to lie on the-table
' On•the motion of Sir G. HILL( an Account was ordered to• .General GASCOYNE did not oppose the erection' ' was rather the words of the 'Hon- . .::,, id
be tail before le House of the quantity of Irish and Foreign of barracks at Liverpool, but recommended that .a ought to be taken down. He" would 1n510tt...„4
Linens retained for home conconsption.for die three,years ending
.different should e. chosen. • site ki. . • the act which 'was relied heti card the ]Cot 'rlio
did it ay"-
sth January, 1812. * .. , •. •
Mr. WROTTESLEY deprecated all additions to not say any thing, about- soldiers, nor lea dg.
On the motion of Sir HOME POPHAM, the Papers pro- the Magistrates to employ them as thy/ ur-
" • • the Wrack system, as contrary to the first principles
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or give up a starving population tie nittary execu.
t;on.—(ltfurniurs.)—When lie heard the Skeet*
to the Treasury argue that it ems a vicious system
to keep the• soldiers •eint bf barrack; or Allow any
free intercourse' with • the people, he could netietki
• ••observe how totally the constuntioneLopinions Of-our
ancestors had been departed from in the present times.
..—Such doctripes would 'bevel filled our foiefathere
wire, horror and affright. and ageinsrsuch sentiments
- be must ever protest. Was it inthis near, era that the
posse Resteet.was to be told by his Ministers, that
the tbundations of the British Throne should not rest
ie de:affections of the people, but on an army. At
former periods of oar history, and in the most sues
cessfnl reigns. such had not been the policy of the
• country. When Queers' Elizabeth wes asked by the
Spanish Minister, where were her guards ; she pointed
to the people in the streets; and sald.-se These. are
. sny guards, and by their affectionsi am best pro-
tected." The Ministers, however, now might think
'proper. to tell the Prince Regent that he was only
se.fr, when surroended with soldiers. It would be
fund, however, by referiing to history, that those
Sovereigns were safer who relied on their people; than
those who relied on armies. Who brought Charles
I. to the block ? It was an army, and an army levied
by Parliament, but who afterwards turned out the
same Parliathent. Who restored Charles 11. ? An
army—a small part of Cromwell's army. Never-
theless King Charles 11. wished to rely upon them;
but a wiser man than be ( Lord Clarenoton) dissuaded
. laim from it. King James [I. wished also. to rely on
a regulai army, but they deserted him it: his distress.
He would maintain that as the law now stood, the
Magistrates were not justified in letting the soldiery
loose upon the 'people, and giving them up to mili-
tary execution. The Riot Act allowed the constitu-
tional-officers, Sheriffs, Constable, &c. to interfere,
and justified these ccerstitetional officers in using
force, if the, populace would not disperse in a certain
time after reading the Act. Tee Riot Act did not
• prescribe that the •soldiery should be ordered to fire
teuponunarnied multitudes, in order to disperse them.'
•He conceived that the expence of these barracks
would be a great objection in are present times, but it
was on the unconstitutional tendency of-the measure
that he rested his principal objection.
The CHANCELIIOR of the EXCHEQUER
hoped, that howeve; the question might be disposed
of, of reluttever might.be thought of the details of it,
- that there would be very few persons found either in
the House or in the country, to follow the Honour-
able Beretta in his argument—( Hear, hear.)—He
believed that.theHononeahle Baronet was extremely
mistaken, if he supposed that the speech which he
had just delivered was likely to mike any great
impression eut of the House, or that he svi.uld be
considered as acting under a sound discretion, when,
with his mind impressed by tho • occurrences which
hadoecently taken, place', he did nor hesitate to say,
that this was a Goeernment not of law, but of the
sword. He believed that ft would be almost univer.
Salle felt, that the steps which Government, or whieli
the Magistrates thought ;wiper to pursue, were not
for the purpose of crushing the liberties of the country,
net. td make war with the people, and subdue them ;
but for the purpose of protecting the valuable lives
and prOperties of hit Majesty's subjects front rioters
and incendiaries—( Loud crier of Hear, hear.) —These
,were tlse people whole the• Honourable Baronet
appeared to have now taker under his protection
.--(11ear) hear,)—and this mob of rioters and *en-
deesies were called by him, MT fieoisle ; and Govern-
ment was charged with making war upon the liber-
ties of the people, because they would not allow a
turbulent populace to destroy all the valuable accu-
enulations of property or of machinery that are to be
found in the country. To preserve the peace of the
districts so disturbed, Government had been obliged
to draw troops from different parts of the kingdom ;
end this was what the Hon. Baronet called making
war upca the people, anti subverting their liberties.
The Hon. Baronet had no doubt strongly in his re-
collection the steps which Government had been
-raged to take to repel the tumulttiary aid which
had been offered to him in resisting the laws of the
country.—(Loud soh: of Hear, hear).—He might now
confidently say, resisting the, laws of the country ;
for the law had since been recognised and settled in
the most formal manner in all tlo tribunals to which
he those tb appeal, as well as by that to which he
st i;red most to appeal—a trial ly Jury.—( Hear, hear.)
At that time numbers of people had been inflamed to
seditious disturbances, very little short of rebellion,
in the very heart of the Metropolis. There was no-
thing which Ministers could do that would go more
immediately to desta ey the Constitution and the libel-.
ties,of the country, than by permitting those tumul-
tuous proceedings to go unchecked. He trusted,
however, that the god sense of the public would
perceive that there was nothing in these statements
rf the Honourable Barortet but mere declamatory
annsense of if thete could be collected any sense
'from theneit would be only such as was calculated !
to do infinite mischief in the present agitated and disc '
rushed state of malty districts. • The Right Honour-
able Gentleman then defended the estimate in detail,
and conceived that he had given proper advice to the
Prince Regent, in giving up those 540 acres of
:mond which forth this new peek, to the health and
comforts of the inhabitants of this great metropolis,
instead of making the greatest rent of it by covering
it With buildings. •
Ms. HIJSKISSON, 4ftet animadverting. with
moch severity upon the speeds of the Honourable I
"baronet, (Sir Francis Burdett) declared his concur-I
'a ace in the amendment. • .
Mr. BARHAM highly condemned the inflammas
iety speech that had Jost been delivered, •He, how.
•eeer, thought the proposed grant enormous, and
would oppose it.
The House then divided.—tor the or iginal guess!
t'oe—Ayes, 134—. Noes, 111-- Majority for the!
Vert, 21.
In consequence of a qtlestion put by Mr. Pons
"IthYr the Chancellor of the Exchequer said, he could
• hot bring forward his proposition respecting the fuel
. ewe arrangements for India so soon as he expected,
on account of a disagreement hetweee Government',
and the Cop-earl. He apprehended he sliould not
be able to bring the questiou to a successful issue this
oeseon.
Me. BROUGHAM' proposed to sit tosmorrow
(this day) on the examinations, which was objected
le. A desultory conversation then took place on the
reject of arranging the days for eraminatione.--

Mr. Biouanitit 'tv‘iihed the Houle to sit From three
to five every day, on the examinations.* The CnAft-
cet.i.oa of the Etektuveit danight that the Motions
for Parliamentsuy Iteform—furlimericatt Papert-
-id/ for making the Plince pay it publiZ servant out
of hifown pockets, were the fittest motions to put
6 if time Prised for these examinations. After
several other Memheis had spoken, it was generally
understo6d, that the House would sit on the exami-
nation en Saturday ,
—2—

• THE EVENING STAR.

IXINDON.
MOLT FoR2ST, FA It ig ft A 14.—.—Mr..R 0 NS IllfOrins the Public,
the Salk of the VA LUA ALL BVITIOINO MA rektnts, advertised
to he Srild nn Aluntlay next, and*fellowing days, is unAvoina;.
Gtr PeA rPO n, hut will take place in a short time, of which
lue Ito. ri:e will be Liven.—Wwwick-street, Golden square, May
2,1812.