Star.
London, England, 1801-02-21 00:00:00

IRISH PENSIONERS.

General Watrots moved, that there fhould be
laid before the Houk an account of the places of
profit and emolument, and of the penfions en-
joyed under the Crown in Ireland, by the Repre-
rented ves in Parliament of that part of the United
Kingdom, diftinguilhing fuels penfions and places I
as are held during pleafure, and fuch as are
granted in reverfion.
Lord CAST LER RAG H fiibmitted to the Honour.
able Member, that there was no Officer of the
Executive overnment, who could prefent the
account he required, as none had any official
knowledge of fuels penfioners and placemen as
were Members of that Houfe. He had no objec-
tion to the Honourable Gentleman's obtaining any
information he wifhed for on the fubjeft, but fug-
gelled that a Committee appointed to enquire
would be the better way.
Mr. HARRISON propofed to have the motion
amended, by calling for a lift of all the penfioners
and placemen on the Irifh Eftablilhment ; and
then the Houfe could arceatain fuch as were held
by Members of Pediment. _ _ _

After tome further oisferiations from Mr. Wal-
pole and Mr. Jolliffe,
The Suss,' rofe and remarked, at Tome
length, on the inconvenience which arofe to Pub-
lic Officers, by the inconfidcrate application of
Members of that Houle, for papers and accounts.
hi the courfe of his experience, he had fccn much
embarralfment in different Public Offices on that
account. The Officers, anxious to conform to
the order of the Bottle, were obliged to callea in.
formation from others, and often without authen-
tic documents to found that information upon.
With rcfpett to the motion before the Houfe, it
could not be complied with ; no perfon could
give information who were Members of that
Houfe but the Clerk of the Crown, in Ireland,

and he was not bound to certify to any perfon
that (hould call on him who thefe Members were.
He was aware, that if Gentlemen were fenfible of
the difficulty Public Officers had to anfwer Inch
motions, lefs would be offered to the Houfe with.
out previous confideration, which it would be wdl
to attend to.

Mr. WALPOLF moved for leave to withdraw his
motion, in order to amend it.—Leave granted.

WAYS AND mEANN.

The Houfe having reiblered itfelf into a Com.
mittee of Ways and Means,
Mr. Rose adverted to fame inaccuracies that
had crept into the ttatement of the terms of the
Loan, where t Ss. (hould have.been inferted infhad
of tcs. as part of the annuity.
Mr. Rose alfo took occafion to obferve, that as
the new tax upon paper would materially affect
the intereft of the proprietors of newfpapers, who
in virtue of former ads were prevented from raif.
in g the price of their papers above 6d. an addition
of four and a half per cent. (hould be allowed
them to the difcount they already received in the
purchafe of Ramps, fo as to leave them on the
fame footing in which they Rood before the new
tax upon paper was impofed. He concluded by
moving a Refolution to that effeet, which was
agreed to.

SUPPLY.

The Hot& being in a Committee of Supply,
Mr. Lona moved the following refolutions:

Tkat a fon, not exceeding 4 millions, be granted to his Ma.
jefty for paying off and difcharging fuch Exchequer Bills as had
been iffued on the credit of the Supplies granted by Parliament
for the year 'Zoo.
That a funs, not exceeding 1,t00,0001. be granted to ►is Ma -
jelly for paying off and difcharging fuch Exchequer Bills as had
been iffucd on the credit of tke Income Tax.

That a rum, ter exceeding 2400,0001. be granted to his Ma.
jetty for difcharging fuch Exchequer Bills as had ►een dim'
on the duties payable on Goods imported, &c. Agreed to.
The Report was ordered for Monday, and the
Committee to fit again on the fame day.

Mr. Ross moved the firft reading of the Loan Bill of twenty.
light millions ; read a firft time, anti ordered to be read a fe-
cond time to-morrow.

Mr. Role then brought is Bills for granting a duty on Tim-
ber, Ralfins, Lead, &c. &c. exported from or imported into
the United Kingdoms.
Alfo for granting a Duty on Paper, Palteboard, Tea, &c.
Alfo for panting an additional duty on the Pottage of Home
and Foreign Letters.
Alfo for granting an annuity of wool. to Captain Sir Sidney
Smith.

All thole Bills were read a firli time, and or-
dered to be read a fecond time to-morrow.

Mr. Rose alfo brought in a Bill for laying an
additional Duty on Horfes, and on the motion,
That it be read a fecond time to-morrow,

Mr. JOLLIFVII role to deprecate fuch precipita-
tion on a meafure that required mature con.
federation, and which, in his mind, or at leaft as
it had been reprefented to him, mull prove equally
mifchievous and unproduEtive. He requeftcd,
therefore, that fufficient time might be given for
Gentlemen to examine into and bring forward the
objections to which it might be liable.
. Ross Paid, that it was of much importance
to the public fervicc, that the duties impofed izl
confequence of the Refolutions agreed to by the
Committee of Ways and Means fhould take place
as loon as poffible ; in other Rages of the Bill,
Gentlemen would have full opportunity of urging
their objections ; it was not, however, his with to
prefs the fecond reading for to-morrow, though
he thought that there could be no great objeaion,
as the Committee on the Bill might not take place
till Tuefday or Wednefday next.
Lord SHEFFIELD Paid, however unfriendly he
mull always be to a tax on Agriculture, be fhould
not think it a mitfortnne if the tax in queftion
fhould in any degree promote the ufe of oxen in-
Read of horfes, efpecially at a time when it ap-
pears how great the confumption of corn by holies
is become; and that this Wand does not at prefent
produce a fufficiency of corn for the fubfiftence
of its inhabitants. Oxen in many countries, and
in all ages, have performed the entire agricultural
bufinell The ox, when he is pall hi.; labour,
furnifhes the bell food for man. The honk fur-
nithes food only for dogs; and while lie lives, if
only moderately fed, confumes daily as much
corn as would flibfift fix or feven men ; and we
fhould confider that onc.fourth, and perhaps at
this time, a larger proportion of the people have
difficulty in procuring oaten bread.
The fecond reading was agreed for to-morrow.