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wished to know,
and horsed their Lordchins would out
the question to themselves,
how far it might be proper
not to exempt Ireland from the operations of this Stand-
ing Order? Capital stood on a distinct footing in that
counts y. He was not, therefore, so willing to check the
employment of capital by any drawback:, where, unless
promising prospects w ere held out to the capitalist, the: e
was no other chance of getting it employed at ail. C'-
pita!, as their Lordships too Weil knew, was the ereat
deficit cf Ireland; individuals who resided there pr,-es.
sed not a sufficiency capital to employ it beneficiAly ;
and he knew not how the employment of capitol
be encouraged in • speculative concerns, if his Noble
Friend prevailed on their Lordships to at see that per-
sons who embarked in such speculations should be obliged
to pry down at the rate of four-fifths in advance. Of
this he was cei min, that if such a measure were a;.plied
to Ireland, it would do this mischief—it would go to
ext:i;gui di the employment of English capital in Ireland,
and thereby to prevent all improvements in that coun-
try. Unless their Lordships were prepared to destroy
at me blow the risinghopes of Ireland, they would,c on-
skier well the expediency aqd the nonexpe,i:ency of the
proi:osed plan ; and he trusted that they would not shut
the ,7orr, hastily and unadvisedly, which was opening
for the effinx stream of capital now about to lbw from
England to Iteltuid.
The Ea:l of LAUDERDALE here complained that
his Noble Friend appeared to have mistaken the object
of his motion. Goo forbid that he should stand up
among their Lordships to resist a fair application of ca-
pital in any part of the United Kingdom, and more
especially if it were ascertained and conditioned by
their L' rdships that such capital was to be employed
for the betties tug of that unhappy country. Ireland. His
object was very different; and he wished to take care
tiro in all cases where individuals should place them-
selve4 as bankers to the Public, the latter should be se-
cured, and not subscriptions for 10,000/. he insctibed on
behalt of persons who hind lint I Of. if called on.
The Ariquis of LANSDO\VN was distinctly of opi-
nion that some security clause should always be intro.
laced in such Bills; but his objection to the Resolutions
of his Noble Friend was, that it tended to prohibit—.
though that, possibly, might not he its operative ef-
fect—all employment of English capital in Ireand. He
would instance, for example, the two Irish Mining Com-
panies; wind' could not be assimilated to Assurance
Companies of any kind, as the extent of the mines re-
mained to be known by the parties
.who embarked in
them ; and therefore it was irrational to suppose that
persons would pay down four-fifths, as proprietors or
subset i het s, helot e they were sure of realizing two-fifths.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE, in explanation, said
that the ReAntions he proposed to their Lordships
could not prevent the transfer of capital from England
to Leland ; but they Would hinder, at least he hoped
they would, it cot-lA.lnel to, 01% substitution of false
capital, and thereby go to prevent the destruction of
unsuspicious integr it y.
At length the Noble Lord's motion stood over to
Wednesday, or at furthest to Thursday-next.
ROMAN CATHOLIC PETITION.
Earl GREY said, that he had to present to their
Lordships a Petition from his Majesty's Roman Catho-
lic subjects of that part of the United Kingdom called
Leland, who, while expressing their gratitude for the
relief which their Lordships had already granted .to
them, wet e willing to suppose that their state might
be still mote ameliorated. The Petition he had the
honour to present had been put into his hands by the
Catholic Association ; and it stated, among other points,
that the Union of the two kingdoms, to which he (Earl
Grey) had always.been opposed, had not only produced
no benefits to Ireland. but that a great proportion of
the proprietors of land had withdrawn themselves from
that country, by which Ireland was deprived of her
natural protectors, and the moral benefit of the exam-
ple which they were likely tai have set. It was further
stated by the Petitioners, that 7-Bths of the population
of behind were Roman Catholic;, and w erebound by

law to contribute to the maintenance of the Established
Church, from the support of which they not only did
not dela ce the least advantage, hut; on the contrary,
were requited with injury, contumely, and insult.—
The Petitioners in like manner felt constrained to com-
plain of the administration of justice in Ireland, with
the exception of the Court of King's Bench, where it
was administered with purity ; but as to local decisions,
in different parts of the country, no justice was to be
obtained. The Petitionets had also to complain of the
constitution of Corporate Bodies in Ireland, and par-
ticularly in the county of Waterford, as productive of
Ithe greatest injustice; and they therefoie now prayed
their Lordships to institute some inquiry on the snbject
with regard to the southern parts cf that errantry. It
so happened that the Petitioners, from whom he (Earl
Grey) differed in this respect, at ibuted all these
evils to the neglect of la, king into the state of the tem-
poralities of the Established Church in Ireland ; and
so far, he felt himself bound to declare that he could
not agree with certain parts of the Petition he had the
honour to present to their Lordships. Thz Petitianers
had also now prayed for the disfranchisement of
r, Cor-
porations,m the discharging of Oranc m from serving
on Juries ; and lastly, for Catholic Emancipation, the'
trrlst important measure of ail; as he reit most strongly
now, and always had felt the necessity of restoring ill.:
Catholics to the entire benefits of the C.7onsthittinn,—
Such was the prayer of the PctitHs which he had the
honour to resent to their Lordships. lie has: taken
care to ascertain that there was nothing ,:isrespecitil
in
the Petition; and as he conceived ti.e duty of
Mg a Petition to be putely ministerial, he ka.l hr:ati4l,t
it before their Lordships, though there there litany parts
of it that he could not su?prn r. Ile inf:, rated tne Pe-
titioners of this, but thew roques:ed hint st.II to present
it, and to support it as tar as he cot.id. Ile believe .1,
however, that the disabilities uthier which the Catholics
laboured were the cause of all the dio..:nbances and
grievances in Ireland. In the rropoit:o.i that he was
went to det, at that mea-
find some passages in It rhich
griev,-7(1 taut they
anxious far Catho!ic Emancipatioo, he was
sure. Above all, he ••••r,louted the
afllietel to
support of o.angme,l to an Illustrious Personage.
However he might • room that lilltstrieuilPei son
;tsACI Cath,.•lic E•stancipteion, he was stlto ,
titr.:l betievolcltce ut .05 'r.:cL would
lead him to wash