Star.
London, England, 1806-04-29 00:00:00

Mr. PAULL raid, it would be ufelell for him to
podpone a motion now, which lie lhnuid feel liimfelf
again under the necellity of pretling upon the Houfe,
in the cnurfe of a few days.
Dr. LAWRENCE feconded the motion.
Lard DOUGLAS gave the motion a very warm
fupport, and thought the Houle, in refullng it, would
be guilty of a direlidion of its own otiginal order.
The Noble Lord, who was the objed of the motion,
Rood upon the ground of his own honour, and fume
of his Honourable Relatives in that Houfe had pro-
felled a zealous with that the charges, thus brought
forward, lbould be minutely invelligated. Their na
ture was inch as indifpenfibly demanded that invelli•
gation. The alarming Rate of embarraffment to
which the affairs of India were brought, 'hewed
there was a latent gangrene fomewhere, which
ought to be probed, and the danger, if poffible, obvi-
ated, which brought that quarter of the empire to
the brink of ruin, before that ruin was complete, and
liirwld have plunged the country into frefh difficul-
ti,s—for he conlidered India, which we were lately
taught to view as a healthful and promifing child of
the parent State, as now ezhaufted by difeafe, cling-
ing to the breall of the mother country, and ready to
aura& the laR drop of her vital nutriment to pre-
vent its own ditfolution.

Mr. SHERIDAN was furprized that the Hon.
Gentleman who had brought forward this motion,
fhould rejea the temperate oppofi.ion of his Hon.
and Learned Friend. He contended that it was the
tight of any Member of that Houfe to give in his
charge, but thought, though there were precedents
on both fides, that the better mode of proceeding
would have been, either by a previous Committee, or
by producing preliminary evidence. If, as the Hon.
Gentleman had Paid, the papers, which he had
moved for, in number forty, and thole moved for by
another Honourable Member, forty more, thould be
produced in a day or two, he thould then not have
any objection to the motion of the Honourable Gen-
tleman fur printing the charge with the papers.
Mr. LEE proved, by a reference to the journals,
that in no one of the precedents adverted to by the
Hon. Gentleman, had the charge been printed be-
fore either a previous enquiry or preliminary evi-
dence laid the immolation for it.
Mr. Secretary WINDHAM thought it of impor-
tance that they fhould not narrow the grounds of the
impeachment, or tie thernfelves down within the con-
toed limits of precedents. There were but fifteen
or nineteen precedents on their journals, and there
could, Dot apply to every polEble cafe. In his opi-
nion, every cafe ought to reft on its own bottom. He
bad been Chocked when he heard of the manner in
which the Honourable Gentleman had been difeoun-
tenanced and difeouraged,-and ridiculed even with
'Om& jills on a former occafion. As a Member of
that Houfe, he had a right to have his charge re-
ceived, and a day appointed for taking it into confi-
deration. By this he did not mean the ilighteft im-
plication of what might be the final refult. He could
)save wilhed that the Hon. Member had agreed to
the propofition of his Learned Friend, but u the
Hon. Member perfevered in his motion, he Wald
feel himfelf bound to vote for it.
Mr. Secretary FOX agreed with his Right Hon.
Friend, that it was the undoubted right of any Mem-
ber to prefer a charge to the Houk. But in bring-
ing.forward this charge without any evidence, or
notice of loch evidence, the Honourable Gentleman
appeared to him to have ailed injudicioufly. If he
meant fairly, he could furely have no reafonable ob-
lation to defer his motion for printing the charge
till the papers containing the evidence were pro-
duced. He agreed that every cafe fhould reft on its
own bottom. After the Honourable Gentleman
bad moved for Co many volumes of papers ten
months ago, why had he brought forward a charge,
which no one of them can fupport? As the papers
were likely to be Coon produced, he thought the
queftion in ilfue of little confequence, and lhould
certainly vote for the printing of the charge. Here
be could not but notice the language ufed by the
Honourable Member, which was very unufual in that
Houle. The Honourable Gentleman demanded
that his charge timid be printed. The queftion of
printing was mere matter of form for the Houle,
and he-knew not of any right any Member had to
demand it. lithe Houfe fhould agree to the print-
ing it, it would be competent to any Member, who
might think that mifchief would arife from the pub-
Eating of it, to move that care mould be taken that
the charge thould be printed in the regular way, for
the convenience of Members. He thought the
Houle ought to adopt Come mode of obtaining force
repofe from thofe perpetual debates on the tubjed of
thefe charges, by coming loon to the confideration of
Come one of them. He withed the Honourable Mem-
ber to follow the example of Mr. Burke, and thole
who eonduded the impeachment of Mr. Haftings,
who carefully *Misdeed from any difctdfion of the
merits till the charges were brought forward.
Mr. PAULL explained. He Paid, that out of osi
papers for which he had moved, only t s were pro-
duced—of thefe only three were immediately relevant
to his purpofe I of thofe the whole of one, and ten
pages of another, were diredly in fupport of his
charges. But none of the papers relative to Oude
er Bhurtpore had been yet adduced.
Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY thought the pre-
cedents were againft the Hon. Gentleman. Agreed
it every cafe of this kind ought to fend on its own
tom. He contended, however, that it was im-
,Zble to confider the charge without having the
Ince printed at the fame time. The Honourable
itleman's notice had referred to the expences of
rd Wellefley for perfonal fplendour. The papers
which he refted fo much, related, however, to
‘r parts of the charge. He denied, however, hat
in any degree criminated Lord Wellefley ; and
was ready to anfwer any charge in which either
{Noble Relation or himfelf might be implicated.
De. LAWRENCE adverted to the moderatim
'h which Mr. Burke had concluded himfelf, on an
Irwin limiter to the prefent, and again withed that
Hon. Gentleman would adopt his fuggctlion—
Ole perfifted, he would, hnwever,vote with him. I
:r. PERCEVAL °pried the motion. The only
ton alledged for printing the charge was, the con-
race of s Houfe. Now this would be no con-
tence at prefent, but the contrary. Precedeats
it to be followed, where no good reafon could
igen for a contrary mode of proceeding.
be CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
that the printing of as cline coolal;ot caufe

try pre] ttree spina the Ncble Marquis, as the eom.
parifon of that with the imperfeel evidence now pru-
,tuced w' old rather operate in his favour.
Mr. BRAGGE BATHURST oppofed the print-
ing of the Charge, and moved the previous queftion.
Mr. CORRY feconded this motion.
Mr. W ILLLIAM SMITH, though he agreed
that the Honourable Gentleman had been unfairly
treated, always was of opinion that the Charge ought
not to be printed, and now fupported the motion for
the previous queftion.
Mr. JOHNSTONE would give no vote on the
fuhjedl.
Mr. CHARLES GRANT oppofed the printing
of the Charge till the evidence was produced.
Sir AttrituaWsu.ssa.sx, Mr. WINDHAM, and Mr.
SHISIDAN explained.
Mr. PAULL applied to the Speaker for his ad-
vice as to the courfe which it would be proper for him
to purfue.
The SPEAKER wifhed to know the Honourable
Gentleman's objed before he gave any opinion,
namely, whether the Honourable Gentleman meant
to withdraw his motion, or put it to the vote
Mr. PAULL expreffed his willingnefs to yield to
the wifhes of the Houle. Therefore, although con-
teary to hirown opinion, he fhould, agreeably to what
appeared to be the prevailing fentiment, content to
withdraw his motion.

Mr. BATHURST ohferved that his motion was
in the hands of the Houk.

Upon which a divifirm was called for ; the gallery
was ordered to be cleared. but after form converfa-
lion, both motions were withdrawn.

MOM DUTY.
Upon the motion for the [mod reading of the Iron Duty BM,
Mr. ROSE Rated (event objedtions to the mesfure. The drift
of the Right Hoe. GeMieMalles argument was, that the prom:dad
Tax would operate agalnft the Iron manufaCture, and agaloft the
export trade of fuck articles, but particularly againft agriculture,
the bgertßs of which would, be contended, be much more 'f-
leeted by this tax than by that with yelped to borfea, lalt year,
which was fo uniuttly ablated The latter would, be was perfuad•
ed, have been much l 4 oppretave upon agriculture, and at the
fame time morc produdive to the revenue than the propo(ed Tax
on Iron.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was aware of the
propriety of fully inquiring Into this fubjedt. ftatements which
are afloat ng it, he bad fern. They were, particularly upon
the kelrerrp tliculture, entitled to attention; but they were. for
dr =A par %eery moth over.ratcd. However, in order that time
ism he olitehiefir das ample invefftgation of every intercft can-
onise; ter legebarrill fated his intention of poftpooing the
emwoollbe of thie NI =di Friday, and that nothing rife Should In-
terim, wids thadienllo, he would prepare to poftpme the order
need= le the. Tat Bill until Monday.
ter LAROTTISLEY remarked upon the propofed deductions
dis Mine with re4ret to Iron ufed for the Ordnance, the Vic-
tualling, and the Navy Departments.
Tic CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER read • paper
sinsrldng a ftatement of the eitimated quantity of Iron liable to
efts rope= deduction, from which it refoked that on the ars-
rote of the two left years, the deduction would amount to
Xplaticil. The Noble Lord concluded with eating, that the
amount of the propded drawback would be at the rate of far
polusds per ton.
Mr. WILBERFORCE was of opinion that the Tax under
eonederation would be materially Injurious to the revenue.
Mr. WARD alfo (poke sgalnft it, as did Mr. I. H BROWNE,
who laid that be would have objected to the tax epos the erft
prepped= of kit it were not for his reludanee to oppok a plan
of taxation foooded generally upon the views and fyftem of his
late Right Hon. Friend, the predeceffor of tbeNable Lord.
Lord A. HAMILTON Stated his peremptory inltrudines
from the county he reprcfcated, and that It was his determiner re-
relation to oppofe this tax.
Mr. VANSITTART olderved,that four pounds per ton would
be the average drawback.
Mr. CANNING conedered this tax to be derogatory to the
leading and predominant principles of tendon, and hoped before
the fubjed should come again under dircuflion the Noble Lord
would think of a proper fuhltitute fait. *Fla:Right Honourable
Gentleman was perfusded, that the tax on Buries employed in
hufbandry, which had been alluded to, would be much more eli-
gible, for the tax before the Houk was to be =poled at once upon
all the inftruments of war and all the implement, of induftry.
Mr. FELLOWES did not think the tax under conederation
would area agriculture or fanning fo (erectly, as foam Gentian=
proteffed to believe. His objection to It was, that it would injure
the export trade. •
After tome further remarks by Mr. CANNING, Mr. Ross, Mr.
Fr eeowes and Mr. Haim oro sr, the hill was read a fecund time,
and committed for Friday.
The committal of the Property Tax was poftponed from Fri.
day to Monday.
Ordered, on the motion of Sir Jons Waprxeser, that an
Account florid be laid before the Houk of the Qjlantity of the
Iron and Iron Wires purchafed for the Ordnance, Navy and Vic-
tualling Departments, for the years 11104-5, del nguifti og the names
of the perfous with whom the commas were made, the parpofes
to which fuck articles were applied, and the prices paid for each by
Government.

The Hon. Baronet an moved for an Minute of the Additional
Revenue likely to be collated in cafe the propofed Tan upon Iron
&mkt pafi into a law.

After tome oonverfation between Mr. W. Surrn, Mr. VANSIT.
TART, Mr. DICK ens, and the Hon. Moyer, ebb motion wall pat-
pound.
Ordered, on the motion of Mr. Ws LLLLL otter, that rn Account
mould be laid before the Honk of the Quantity of Bridal Produce
cuported for five years, ending in January, t god.
The fecond reading of the Land Tax Comm
poftponed till this day fortnight.
Mr. VANSITTART gave notice that on Wednrfday, in the
Committee of Ways and Means a motion would be made, that
the proposed duty on Iron &add attach to the Rock In band.

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