Star.
London, England, 1815-02-23 00:00:00

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liiiiiiiintAn *odd -is la- sloe. a,s i the tßesit* of
tittitnd, with the necess Irk informaiiion appended to
the q, to the tontiderstion And adjastatentoi the Bri-
tilh Representatives in .P.arliament, as be would to
.that of ahy otber'boily composing a part of the Le.
-gislature of the Enipire—(owl and continued cheat!)
The Right Honourable Gentleman here referred so
'the calculating data regulsting 111.! Truport2ti .n p:i9e
if grain ; a;id in his °onion, the stsndard fel' 80i. w4s
alone the'fair .retnunerat on—(l7ar.l—His.sriew of
:the question lea him to accept that price, and ...it no
Other, he thodght, couLl .1 safe rotection be relit d ..n.
'His lion. 'Friend .( Xr. floring for wli:,se talents and
i
information upon this, as on al other sttlj-cui, he fek
not only the highest respect, hut •dmir.ittnn,-( F/ear)
hid started of .I;lTerent fr.rn Lis (4r. Ponson-
by's)—but he could not concur in the nations which
characterized his Honourable Friend's view of the

subject—indeed he thought they were p.culi.uly un-
fortunate. The limitation and reducing scale were
particularly objectionible—i or went would be their
direct op:ration ? 'Nothing less than this—that the
farmer would be told, for a certain time, and no
longer, his interest was worth consaassitien. If he
was entitled to any lid at 41, to be eirective it should
have a prospect of permanency—(Near, hear)—of
else the agriculturist would net tempt his woe' tO
so fluctuating a security—(Hear, hear)—h:, would not
Incur the risk of sulking his property in a pursuit, the
rewartrel`f which night be ilitercepted by a foreigner
at the! moment when the British grower was seeking
the air ta:muneration of his embarked capitol and
inciiistrt.--'--(Crisr Hears tha c,:erse
of discussion, it had been said that the measure
in contemplation would make food dearer tor the
people—(Hear, hear,)—and that the Legislature
ought to view with caution a proposition tendrogiO
such a consequence. He admitted they should do
in, as far as was reasonable and consistent with the
public weal, and with such other regelatioes as they
were bound to regard. He would even adn.it that
a necessary result, flowing from the. present motion,
would be, that probably on the very day of its adop-
tion, an increase of price in food would Like place.
But he would utterly deny that suchaa 18:11101:Mi effeCt
would aria—(Hear) On the contrary, the standard
would affix a reaulating price, which would prevent
that fluctuating value. so preattaut with evil, and
would, by steady market. in the Lourse of time, cow-
enunibus annis, and bang tile staple artical cf lood
a fair and. proper equivalent, even and reciprocal.
He utri_ Id therefore implore the House not to ad-
mit the fallacy, that two distinct interests were at
variance in the plaint discussion. The great body
of the consumers slr uld know, that to the labour of
sgriculture they must owe that constant and unilorm
supply of subsistence which alone could be ensured
by a fair and adequ ee compensation. For these
reasons he should give his cordial assent to the Reso-
lutions which bad berg prepofi::d. (Loud Che.w.)
Mr. WaiITBREAD s id, he here' 'lowa be
excused hi derivetiog it as his that the eili-
cacy of legisarion in thin wiestion had been much
or:r-rAteti. As to the relict Mach the termer woo*
receive frsnn it,: that was perfeetly nugatory at the
',resent moment ; and as td tree fu.ure it would Oa
be so test At was.expected. With regard to what
had fallen from an Honouralide Friend id* Isis. he
must say, that be th.myht a coineeiiiity, to weich
be (Mr. W.) belonged. -Lad beets rather hardly dealt
with by him, as ,tll as by the Right Honeuthide
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, on a forint, even-
ing. The iepro ich the had been cast upon lheos
(most unni •eitediy, tie metal say) he itoped now to
do ;way, ha informirg his H.oroiurahle Friend:nod
the House that the rice 01 beer had been Inwereill
that day—(Hear, ii.;%:r).--n:)t in consequence of the
threat of the et the Exchequ r, or the
clamour out of doors, but in conaluenee art certsitl
measures that hid been taken. and which v...tited to
he put in execution only t;11 it wis iciowit what
were to be the plans of the !tight H.vi. n.
The price would have been lowered bea)re, h :d those
plan; been known betore. He bad freeitlett that day
xt A Meeting of tradesmen, where Ole proposition had
been received with as much unetionity end good bu•
morn, as the House had received the 411;404,6w tree
had just given them. Before he discussed, the sulbjects •
he wished to advert to what had bean said of the
great profits of brewers. The price lot a barrel of
beer was 15s. more at pres.nit than it Wes in 1761,
and of those 1.53. Government took eleven; while
the real increase of profit upon every pa of beer to
the brewer, comparing the r-csent periol w ith t.i it
of 1761, was oniy about the low-firth of nut halt-
penny. (Hear, hear.)—And yet, it the Right Han.
Gentleman mould take away the meta; ae, iLetv-•!s
would be most happy to sell their h"er hoer.
Having thus vindicated them, be would nevi vindicate
the landowners and farmers. It bad been seal, arid
most unjustly, that the presert measure was a combi.
nation soneng the great landed proprietars to keep up
the rents of tire country at a most exorbitant rate.—
It Was no such thing (hear, hear) ; or if it were, in-
deed, a combination, it was a combination to prevent
the depreciation of rent beyond its just value, and
with it, the depreciation of all other property. The
amnia!' that had been raised against high rents was
a most Unfounded and a most unwise clamour. and
bad always excited his indignatioe. Taking the
dOnntry through, the rents had not been raised be-
-fond What they ought. according to existing circum.
Stances, arid it should never be totg.tten, that the
landed htsiliests was inseparable from our con!.
prhiperity. With regard to the witnesses
drat frog been examined, It was difficult to draw
day flied conclusions from their evidence, as they
were all called to answer a particular purpose.—
He felt at every step the difficulty of legislating upon
the subject, anti the more he considered it the more
he was convinced that no plans of legislation could
accomplish what was anticipated. When the price
of bread was high, the popular feelings blinded the
judgment ; and be could remember when it was the
fas Mon of the times, countenanced too Ly the then
Lord Chief Justice of England, to attribute it all
to the acts and practices of forestallers, regraters
and middlemen. It was now, however, a time
when the people might be told that the forestaller,
the regrater. and . the middlemen were doing more
good in their private dealings than could be dome
by all the plans for public granaries and warehouses.
The middleman was always the frieud of the people.
He collected corn during a time of cheapness to tell
it out during a time of dearness ; and it in his sarcu-
letkitts be sornetimes went beyond the mark, he re..