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that any such notoriety as that mentioned by the
Right Hon. Gentleman waited! 'He insisttd that
the Bill was much too severe to produce any effect ;
and he was convinced that no Lotit Lieutenant could
be found to act under its provisions. It was even in-
capable of being materially altered in the Committer.•
It had been admitted that they were not political, but
local disturbances which this Bill was intended to re-
medy ; and yet its extraordinary powers would place
•whole provnces of Ireland at the discretion and ca-
price of Inc tl Magistrates. How would it 'sound to
the people of England, if it were proposed to them to
pass the next three years without the benefit bf Trial
by Jury ? But this Bill went even farther than such
a proposition ; for it assumed the shape of a perma-
nent law, and left no prospect of abolition. He would
therefore entreat the House not to pass judgment on'
the Bill, unless convinced that it was calcubaed, fully
and effectually, to remedy the defects complained ot.
Mr. PEELI: and Mr. ABERCROMBIE briefly
explained.
Sir H. PARNELL bad the same objections to the
.Bill as he had formerly expressed, and whicli were
fonnded on its departing from the common course of
the Trial by Jury. •
'General HARCOURT was decidedly in favour:
ofThe measure. The Magistrates, whose doty.wiiiiltt]
compel them to act under the Bill, would be placed'
in a situation of odium and disdain ; • but they had
only' to put themselves under the ptotectiOn of thel
House, ci.uld not fail to appreciate their ex
ertions. • ' •
• Colonel BAGWELL would put the questio6 to
the feelings ot the head and heart (*every -Member.'
in the House, whether such a measure stare mitvalisa:
lately necessary, when it was proved ihat nightly ode:'
predators go abroad, depriving the hiyal inlajliitantes
of arms ; assembling again with these arms in the.ir li
hands ; threatening them with destruction unless they.,
complied with their lawless views; and diten putting
their atrocious threats into execution.. lie.wisui.d go
farther, fearless of the result, than merely saliag,that,
this measure was absolutely necessary ; hc would say
that it is not sufficient to remedy the evil.; and that
those who have taken up the cudgels in some diitricts
of Ireland ought to be put down by martial law.
When it was recollected that a worthy Magistrate
who had lent his aid in suppressing such disturbances,
had been murdered at his own door, and that threats
of the most dreadful i4escription were held out to wit-
nesses and Juries, who could doubt that the state of '
the country was sufficient to authorise the measure ?
Mr. CROKER WAS sprite stare that the Govern-
ment of Ireland would have been wanting ill its pm:
tection to the people of that country, it it had not
adopted a measure of this kind, at a time when a very
large portion of Ireland was in :1 state of disturbance.
The former Bill of 1807, acted as a complete preven •
uve, and- never was found necessary to be enforced at
all.
Colonel LERESFORD considered this measure as
indispensible to protect the loyal and sober-minded in-
habitants of that country, against the turbulent and'
the bad.

.Sir G. HILL asserted that the rigorous execution
of-this law in ISO: kept rebellit.n out of the Counties.
of Tyrone and Tipperary. The (heal of the opera:
tion.of this law, he believed, would have the.efft•ct I
preyenting those disturbances that now tinhaf•ptly pre.
inlielAnd. _

Mr. D. BROWN said, the causes of the distittb.-
ances in Ireland laid deeper than had yet been. de-
scribed. He trusted the Rtht Honourable Gen/le--
man would, in the early part of nest session,- bring
forward some permanent measure on this sukject ;
he trusted a plan would he proposed for establishing
a police in Ireland; as, at present, whatevtr Gentle-
men mtlit think or say,*there WAS no efficient Police
existing in that country.
M. J. P. GRANT did not consider the, present
measure as calculated to put a period to the evils c.,ln-
pbaired of : and with that (pinion strongly. impressed'
on his mind, he could ro.t rive his assent to the me:.-
sure, especially when he comidered that one of its pro-
visions went to suspend that great palyium of our
liberriet—the trial by jury.
Mr. CUURTNEY approved the measure. He did
not think any one could he proposed to remedy
the evil, which departed less from the Constitution than
this did.

The Bill was then read a 2d time, and committed
for to-morrow.

IIA1.F•P:1Y CF SUBALTERNS.

General GASCOIGNE, alluding to the rejection
of his amendment on Monday evening, said he wish-
ed now to adopt another course, by moving an Ad-
dress to the Prince Repent in behalf of that class of
men whose merits were so generally acknowledged as
to need no observation. He would repeat, that the
half-pay of the Ensign did not give him the means of
subsistence superior to that of a day-labourer. He was
aware that it was not possible for the House and the
Country to do all that in their liberality they might
wish to do ; but the little that was asked for on thiS
occasion was so trivial, when comnared with the ge-
neral expenses of the nation, as to b a mattir 44 per-
fect insignificance, and ought not to be put igcollipe-
tition by any means with the great end it was intend-
ed to answer. When it was considered that men were
encouraged to enter the army at an early pefitid of
life, and under the idea that the profession they had
assumed would be permanently advantageous, their
case must now be admitted to be one of peculiar hard-
ship. The loss of the advantage of being with their
corps, and forfeiting the kind protection of their su-
perior °Ricers, was almost as great as depriving chil-
dren of their parenti; as no men were so comforta-
ble as these officers when embodied with thew regi-
ments, where every attention was paid to preyent
them fr.-,m becoming involved; and now that they
were thrown suddenly upon the world, they had
a greater claim on the State. The Honoura-
ble Gentleman then repeated all his former re-
marks res;•ecting the peculiar situation in which
the peace would place the- Lieutenant as was well as
the Ensign, and denied that the proposed addition
Would make the pay of the Lieutenant dis:m Tomo-
nate to that of the Captain, :et 'the difference b rt t‘een
them ‘vould he half-a-ezoWn, tlae pay of the Imes
being is. and the loimer 4s. (id. On the whole, the
lion. Gentleman was of opinion, that limy or never
was the time to o,hipt this intereeting question, which
all the General Olikets were anxious to sce effectcd.
It the Noble Lord knew now general was the feel:ng
in Ixhalt ol the Subaltern Officers, he was sure that•
he would with pleasure render his iwist.tl,ce in amp.