Star.
London, England, 1823-01-30 00:00:00

•On the motion of Mr. Alderman WOOD, the Depu-
sation•was called in; and their Petition for aid from
She Corporation having been read,
The SECRETARY addressed the Court in behalf of
the Society ; • and he felt, he said, they had everything,
to 'expect atom thehumanity and benevolence of the
Most august Corporate Body in the world. It was.
with thii view that they wished to hold their premises
as a freehold, than being a more permanent tenure
than holding it at the pleasure of the Corporation,
or by lease under that Body, however august it was.
If their sphere of action had hitherto been small, it
was because the encouragement they bad received
had 'not been• adequate to their purpose, which was
tottclaim guilty youth, and bring them back-to the
;paths' of virtue.—The Deputation then withdrew.
' Mr. Dottbtrbno said, that it was impossible to do
justice to be subject in a future debate, unless the
Chatiinanof the Philanthropic Society wduld fin nisli
the Court With the substance of what had that day.
been' urged in favour of their Petiticin; but the impa..
Bence' Of the Court to fo into the specig business for
which the- Court wag summoned, viz: Parliamentary.
Reform, would not suffer them to go i'nld it's•
• The Requisition was then read, and wact,ery kV;
theittbsly 4gned. •
• AldOrmau WAlTNRlAR,then.moved, that, the Rid-`.
futlohs of the Court-41811 should he read before he
entered on the subject itself--(It was then read by the
'Clerk,- and trete& the distress, to want of Refor rts,
crease of the standing army, taxation, influence of the
"ClOwn, smeitsre plates; munerited petisioias, .50:)
iffestdd, he had 'called for *eye Resolutions, and no
'ethers, to be reads because 1111 the others on the same
'subject weri to the were tiers. However impottaut'
this questiort was, be hid a difficulty is sisying any-
thing newosi it. But he felt that nothing but a retio.
!Vation of the Constitution, tif .admittingthe People to
their fait share itt she Representation, could •
'coot:try; •or **nevi oar'disetess. "NV hen they,
tratkqe the -110stivy of thin* country, and sal..
*eery Domes* they am lid, had been obtained
'heir ancestors by
.fswae, acid through. rirvirs7of
' Could diat,,atigligtklinsen.,- be indifferent;
of-thaw Whittles.. He siloqlcl,,,howevir,
al* no chteiatwaidisiti Aweigh; MI slight Se wen justilSid
lilt to doing' Wt. isseetratestiema tire' faCtst.it ;id
be setted- [hilt *stalky 4stetia rev

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y"perity.. arid
preaehed— ?alien' te2kthe Peeple. Itow, •
the distress fallen on them` lees; but he did not
*Mean therefore to reflect on theiri:cit'to pielmote aii.
;Union.; because, without a tentrallininktAis do'i:ntry
could not be laved, or Reforts be 'Wetted. , it *ie.
.I House of amnions calted7onlheit 16'' •Ooilit• but a
spec ftic'plan or Reform; they4ntglid lit Well-all a
National Convention for that pp.'..`fik i F iliittle nide
could leglslate for theriselves; ihet weould"Wikt no
!Representation whatever. The print ple Was founded
iin human natufe and justice, attl 'the People tetitild
have a tight to a representativeshar'e in'the Ooliretn-
rnent, though it had' never before been thought" of hi
the world. In thvicostimancement. of this '1445.1Pcn
they. stare, that: 'Catastrophes in' the ' retell 'ol
-Charles:l. iod-IL' apt! larnerit.. keetre'btolight abinit
by the .tteiire' of diprivitrg ihe'Peofile Or their rightli
of Representation. By. this, Charksl. hut ttii head,
.91.1il tits: sub;. james; his' ktbikdortf... Let them ,nciviiBel;
at the rise of some great froriaughilMthocit 'PeOresen-
tation, and the dqmpulitioi_of tothaviL-the istetislon
of commerce and machine'rythe-addition of zeiten
Millions of population,. and werePthey' to to kept out
of the Coastitiition-? and vat. the rlght ontepresen-
• tatioii to be the only, thing never tnie'eitindiel p. Its
England, Scot' a ttd;- and ittitand, alert trete 211nRlions
of persons,• and; be wotilic•venture'to sity, tbeti'weii
not in all more than 5000 real eremite. If they'tnok
their stand on*thit alone, it was strong enough i•for,
according,to Lord Chatham, it could never be enatired
that persons' were to be taxed without their own-con-
sent Theymust look also at theipaeasirginfloettee.;
and, as Mr. Rix said,-at that monad' 'of correption,
the Nation'ilDeht. Thet.e things cbtild not be provided
. against at the Revolution, as the-whole expenditure
on. the peace establishment; in KingViHiarn s reign,
did not exceed two millions. At the close of the Ame-
rican war the.debt was 150miltions, 'and 'iD now
amounted to. Boo millions, and the annual peace ex- •
penditure was 54. millions. There was also another
important consideration, and that was the immense
standing army kept up'in a time of peace. •He was
sorry that he saw none of the worth yAlder men present
who had derive/large itclvantages.from the war ; and
also sonic of those who told their C :nstituents that they
could not attend to the instructions they gave them un-
til theybad heard the opinion of the HOuseof Commons.
There rig in that Court 'a moderate party, and' in
1816 that party had moved an amendment on a pro-
position of his, which. complained rif.the large stand-
ing army, and recommended the redaction of taxes,
and useless places, etc. This amendment went as
far as his own proposition, and therefore he liked it as
well 'as his 0.., n.child. There had been Petitions on
Petitions, and yet no redress, no reduction, except
what was absolutely forced upon the Ilo.ise of Corn-
Mani: ,In the time of King'William' the peace esta- .
blishment was only 10,000 men for the army. Rely-
ingon the people, Queen Elizabeth recumniendid
her Commons'to see her subjects well armed to pro-
tect her i.while we passed Acts to enable the Gover-
nment to break into people's houses in the night. 13at
,it was said the army was necessary in aid of the Civil ,
Power ; but instead of that, he sass this-army watch-
ing while the pepplewere in Constitutional delibera-
tion, cutting do* the' people in Manchester and
London, and attacking the Civil Magistrate in the
discharge of his duty. Not one of these grievances
tied been redressed, and these were the b;cssi:,gr. of a
'standing army, which now amounted to 80,000 men,
'of Whim The Hotisehold.TrOopit,:the Dragoons alone
'were 14,000 men. The Officers of these were-all the
'depencleini On Ministers, aid it must be obvious that
Such a standiag artily Must convey much influence to
Government;• but it was to be viewed in a worse
light, as being most dangerous to the liberties of the
Pidple. He now came to the actual state of the
Representation 'itself. ' It • was knOwn that neither
I‘ordi Shaftesbury, Somers", nor Mr.'Llieke, thought
`trio Representation of the People, even :in their time,
as:being perfect. He had not forgotten the increase
of the Excise,' Assessed Taxesiltamp Duties, lic..all
C
Cif which conveyed immense influence to the Crown.
-41.1iout 150 persons send a majority to the HOuse -of
Commons. That was stated 'in Lord Grey's Petition.
Mere are 487 persons sent by Peers to the House of
Commiant, by Scotch; English, and Irish.. Corn-
moners, and by the Treasun y Bei ough.. There are
eighty-nine Members who receive out of the taxes
ET95,387. It might be said that there bad been 'a
period 'when there was a greater number otfiertsioners
in.the House, but that proved nothing: e quoted
the Opinion of Mr. Justice Blackstone as to the in-
&fence of the Crown in his Aisne, when he said the
.14tibnil Debt and Ta*s had thrown stich a weight
eiriefluenee into the executive pain of the 'Govern-
ment, than be..'catild nOt think Was ever' contemplated
al designed liY Our • patritit 'ancestors'. ' This applied
in much gteater force noW When our' annual taies
amount to sixty 'million!, and silren:jaitice !Reek-
stone wrote" they were only7lieviii inilliOns. • In
Surrey . there were sit Itigistieii fitarned 'ht.three
'Borcitighs in which there 'were 'roar Electors:L.-
Saltaali;Eait and West Lime, sent sqiSeErsbert, with
Only three Electors. ' -Oliterving Illi.'AimitirDiion
latighing; he vilified bird 'to meek•-le facts 'lie Wad
•staked..ir be ival an Enalithmati, iitet riei 'to Piukteut
the itiiifortimes of theeduatry.. Ititiiiakvilt; 14)0
l"ieitr9!rithPlrfosT3lrtsocirie-'1::
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saw that , ilk 11aTAle-to vcite?--(fieltkl—Hpaiiie world fah
alped by , let,Te;The prl/2terty to Setif :tot itt ttitstsomo of
A- blgoa, , the fire property
for taTeu;:i!tdVespetif w no voiii_.
alto the' wile' most of `the irsitieit *ere stile-reffint se:viten.
'emcee*, I ITtitiliis 'rul'4,s' thtVit*Vin'ziter au'd-vote
iustilid ;Thijuiti tlie.y. had tielleil illattl:‘:plale..p•siiiie
it could !r.si.!ent there had. iip. tides at at; -
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