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London, England, 1805-05-11 00:00:00

CAS, however, the neceffion of Catlin/its to power is
foreclofed ; and certainly thefe are not times to abro-
g:.te the laws in their favour. This was done by the
'Whigs, who, however, could not have effected that
revolution but for the zeal of the Church, that had,
on fo 'many occafions, aided the State. For if the
Church has been upheld by ilke State, the State has
been upheld by the Church ; hence innovation of the
Constitution of the Church ought to be received with
jealoufy, and promptly repelled. By the Act of Settle-
ment the Catholics cannot be admitted to unlimited,
nocontfrained, ceders:laical, and politioal power,*-'
With refpee again •to the value the Catholics put
noon thole immunities for which they now petition; I'
am far from thinking with the-Noble Baron, that in
riving them we linuild be giving nothing, yet they
...wild be receiving mach. Now, I think, that you
-oil Ire giving them little, whilli you•wentlithe xi,-
irt; op mueb•—• What, not enriching them, made
tqr poor indeed.'
We ought to defend the Church. When in 1660,
ele,fdensarehy was restored, the Church was-a grand
loirument towards the Reitoration ; and in 1681, the
Church .powerfully contributed to the Revolution.— ,
.With there fentiments, thinking, that if we do grant !
.the Catholics more indulgence, thinking, that the
speech of the Noble Baron goes to the abrogation,
not only of the Catholic, but of the Corporation, Set-
tlemeot, and all the :Felt Laws ; not thinking that the
Noble Lnrd has cltablithed any one political in his 1
fpeech, believing, that in the circumitances of Eu-
rope, and the world, at this time, it would-be pecu-
liarly unfortunate and unpropitious, if the demands
of the Catholics were yielded, I, my Lords, cannot
but be molt decidedly inimical to the preknt motion.
Some Noble Lords may differ from me as to the ge-
neral policy of the meafure, applied to other times;
to inch I will only fay, that whilst I mutt think it a
meafure bad for any times, yet in thefe times it would,
I am Pure, prove moll ruinous to our internal re-
pole and esternal tranquillity. As the laws ells.
bli:hed bj our Constitutions, as the inflitutions in
Church and Stale, as a Proteflant King, Proteltant
Connciliora,Protellant Parliament,Protettant Judges,
and rroteflant Corporations, have hitherto ben up-
held our State, been the piops and bulwarks of our
Conftitution and our liberties, and promife us the
hi hell fecurity to be derived for human conventions,
eflabliftsments, and laws, from human fyilem. ;—as
our dflem of government is, as now trifling, acknow
ledge(' the firft in the world, I cannot only not help
oppofino the motion of the Noble Baron, but I call
upon your Lordfltips to cling to that Altera which
has limed our fafety, the permanency of ourintlitu-
tions, the purity of our laws,the prosperity of our na-
tion, the liberties of the people, and the prerogatives
of the Sovereign. My Lords ~I do not fear the refult
of your vote; I feel allured jiat your Lorailhips will
this night Peal the triumph, not of chlfaffeetion and
difcontent. but the folid afcendency of the principles
of the moll glorious Conflitutiun of Go-vernment
that has ever appeared among mankind.—With thefe
imprellions, my Lords, I need not add, that I-will
heartily oppofe the petition now before you."
Hi, Royal Highnefs the Duke of CUMBERLAND
Mt it in a peculiar degree his duty to give the molt
decided oppofition to the prop fit ion before theHoufe,
the objects of which were direaly fubverflve of all
thole principles which placed the Houfc of Brunf-
wick on the throne of this realm. He entreated their
Lordfhips- to confider maturely the nature of the
qaeltiorr before them. Was it not tolive the Roman
Catholics admiffron to all the offices of power and
ern olunrent in the Stale ? Was it not direaly to fubvert
the principles of stir Con (Motion as efialdifised at the
Revolution? Was it not to do away thole fundamental .
lows uhich constituted the very life and foul of that
Itzvolittion ? and could it he pollible their Lord-
foips would, for one moment, entertain a meetfore
fo far, as to go into a Committee in order to delibe-
rate upon the propriety of its adoption, which mea•
titre had for its objea the attainment of purpofes
lit fubverfive to the ellabliflied Conflitution in
Clarrch and State ? Let the Home recollect the very
principles which eaufed the Revolution, namely,
the impolfibility of agreement betweeit Catholics and
Protzliants, in a mutual participation of political
power, a fa& proved by experience in every country
when inch power was fo divided. The objea of the
Catholics was now avowed' to be nothing lets than
filch a participation which !Minty would woods had
In long Rained this lond with blood, and which,
though confider ably abridged at the Refiwmation,and
under gheer, Elizabeth, was aill endeavonred to be
revived until the time of Junes, whole attempts to
give effe& to thole endeavours had driven him from
the throne, and led to the eflablithment of thole pr in-
ciples, the violation of which, bothe grant of that which
we's now demanded, would render it impolllhle for
tie cratilitutional connection between King and Cub.
jetts any longer to Built. Betides, the temper of the
times, and a very great portion of the fentiments of
the country were vgainft it, as appeared from the pe-
titions on their Lordfhips' table from a number of•
counties and highly refpeaable corporate communi-
nines throughout the nation. Did the .petitioners
acknowledge the fupremacy of the-King in Ecclefi-
affical as well as Civil affairs ?* No o would their
Lordfhips then difpenfe the Catholics claiming a full
participation in all the powers of the State, from an
acknowledgment to which every Proteriant fubjeil
was indifpenfably bound. Would they nocv.conlent
to deßroy; by any rath meafure, thole land marks
inttituted by the wifdom of their- anrettors ? Every
ih-;vilege confident with the fafety of the Cynftitutiou
kis Royal Highnels was readily dilpofed to concede
to the Catholics. But to any meature which could
unhinge the principles, or rifle in any degree the
faCity 'of that Conaltution, lie could not, he dared
not, he woos') not confent. He was bound to main.
tain, to the lag monwnt of hbesillence, the princi-
ples of that Constitution in Chinch and State which
placed his Royal Hisbnefs's ratnlly an' the throne'
of- there reams ; 'antterithnut finger trepaffing-tini
Lordatips" ataintany berthouldvseteatgaialt. the
motion. •

Earl SPENCER fupported the motion of his Noble
Friend, after whore molt able and zar osentatire
fpeech, his Lot cithip did not Ecl k nec aryl* trou-
hk the Houle at sou& length. libireoutithinlviither
the motion brought forward by his Noble Friend, or
the fpeech with which be fo eloquently lupported that
motion, could have, in the molt diftant degree. the
tendency attributed by the Nuble Secretary, of injur-
ing the Church an& State aveflablithed by law in the
r•rthil. .or &Akin At throne of the Houle of Brunt.-