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ranted in Rating, that. die fiat -Overtime ~
from France, and-that the bafis was otienais,
rpofed.by. the french government, bat that after t.
they fhifted from that.hafis which they had asigini/11,;,
propofed. When Lord Yarmouth returned to pAtil,
h•rouna eissumliances materially changed, and then
he was told by M. Talleyrand, that France could not
then accede so the lame terms which it had before
propofed. Lord -Yarmouth was then placed is
fituation of extreme difficulty. He was on the one
.
hand told, that the moilimportant changes woulde
in a few days, take place in the fyftem of Eirropewi
unlefs he was authorized to negotiate for this
country. On the other hand, his inaruaions were,
that he fhould not produce his full powers unlefs the
French Minitler fir: acceded tocertain points. Under
thole citcumftances Lord Yarmouth was in a moll dif-
ficult and delicate fituation. The refolutiorrihat he'
took to produce his full powers was, no dreg, infla-
enced by the bilk of motives for the welfare of this
counts y, and of Europe ; but at the fame time his
Majefty's Minifters could not but regret that he had
produced thole powers. It was certainly contrary
,to their intentions, and to his inttrueions. The text
Rep that was taken by Government, was to
Rod
Lord Lauderdale to Paris, who tom being perfettly
acquainted with the fentiments of the Government,
and Oro from his habits of bufinefs, was capable of
giving great alliftance to Lord Yarmouth in the con.
doe of the negociation. Lord Lauderdale, upon bisH
arrival at Paris, immediately prefented a Note, con
veying the fentiments of his Majelly's Minifters, and
laying down thole principles upon which alone th*
negociation could be btought to a favourable Mi.
The anfwer to this note was indeed fomething like a
denial of the principle which had been laid down for
the negotiation. It was Paid,'* If England isle keep
every thing the has got, and require France.th make
many ceflions for peace, then, indeed, peace is im-
rabic. But (it continued) if France is alto to keep
every thing that the has conquered by her armies,
and that is to be the hafts of peace, France adopt: the
bails " There was fomething curious in this word
adopt:. Some other word had firs been written', and
a much longer word. This had been carefully erafed,
and with the golden Imperial pen the word ddeprr was
infested. Coupling this anfwer with the former pro-
ceedings of the French Governeient, Lord Lauder-
dale defpaired of bringing the negociation to a favour
able termination, and thought it his duty to demand
his pafports. Another conference took place, and
Lind Lauderdale In prend for paffports ; but when
the Intelligence arrived of the refufal of the Emperor
of kuralo ratify the treaty, then the language of
the French Miniders appeared (0 much changed,
that Lord Lauderdale conceived it his duty to re-
,.new the conferences. They were afterwards delayed
fur a few days by his Lordffiip's Rinds, hut it was the
whole object of Lord Lauderdale to bring the nego-
ciation to a fpeedy Wile. Such was the hiffory of
the fags of the negociation ; and it remained now to
be teen what part of the corklue of his Majefty's Mi-
nifiers, in this negotiation, was to be complained of
or found fault with. A Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Canning) had faid, " Whatever may be the condua
of Minifiers, I confider the caufe of my country good
as againtl the enemy." He was almost fatisfied with
this declaration; and if it was univerfally allowed that
in this negotiation, the caufe of the country was good
as againa the enemy, he ffionld fay, " Then I have
gained my caufai" for it was of far more importance,
in his mind, to efiabliffi that the caufe of the country
was good and clear, than to defend the individual
conduB of Minifters. But the fame Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Canning), who allows that the
caufe of the country is fo good and clear, in the fame
fi,eech reprefented his Majefty's Minifters as com-
plete dupes, and faid, that the hiftory of the negocia-
tion was nothing elfe that that of artifice praeiling
on credulity. If he were, however, to examine the
feparate parts of that hitinry, he would find it very
hard to efiablifh his affection. If he would take the
firfi period up to the toth of Apri!, he would hardly
fay we had been dupes up to that period, unlefs he
means to lay it down broadly, that we otrght.nevei.
to liften to any
.verbal communication, tending, or
purporting to teed, to the reaoration of peace. His
Majefty's Minifters had moll pofitively refitted to-
treat, except in conjunetion with Rola (Mr, Perce-
val thook-his head in fign of difapprobation.) la I fee-
(continued his Lordfhip) that this Honourable aid
Learned Gentleman means to favour us with his ed.
ticiftns upon this point; but certainly, during the pct-'
rind I am fpeaking of, up to the loth of April, Mr.
Fox pofitivety refufed to treat but in conjunaion
with 2offia, and upon that refufal the negociation
appeared for a confidecable time to be at an end."
The offers of the enemy Might in the very outfet be
falli and infrecere. That, however, was but of little
confequener ; for he fuppofed, that it 'wenld hardly
be contenchd by any body, that even if there were
tirong grounds of fufpicion that the propofals of the
enemy were hollow and infincere, upon that account
they lhonld not even be litlened to. If he was pe-
remptorily and drily to sejea an overture of an his.
nonrable peace from France, how could he jollity
himfelf to all Europe, and what is of more conic-
cience, how could he juftify himfelf to the people of
this country, where public opinion is the principal i
Rrength and refources of the Government ! If it
were faid, that Minifiers were fo cajoled by the arti-
fices of France. as on that account to delay the ne-
cefary expeditions, and the fopport that ought to
have been given to Pruffia, to fuch an affection he
mull give a broad denial. The lodes of Prutlia had
prciceecled from her own mifguided counfels, whio
rendered it impoffible to give her any fupport. As
to the remaining point, whether we bad maintained
good faith with our Allies, he fhould obierve, that
as to theliulans,although we contented to treat fepa-
rately in farm, yet in fad we never contented to treat
but in conjuntlion with Ruffia, and in firma of her
reafoaable demands. We bad certainly a right to
keep every thing we had got, unlefs France ;Wept-
ed to make equivalent returns to,os or to our Allies
—This was the only balls upon is;,lch a, peace could
be faid to be honourable to thiaconotrz. With Tel=
pea to the King of Naples, it could not be laid that
we had oat ailed with the ftrietea honour. We had
defended Sicily with our arms, and we had refitted
to give it up to France,' although the laid fq much
firers upon the 16101160 n. The in terefisrofilanover,
Sweden, and the Porte,•were to have fluffily enter-
ed into the negotiation, and certainly the retreat of
the French armies into their ownseountry, would,
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been antecedently offered ; but Then, all this was to
be done on the condition only of our abandoning new
angel ally, the Emperor of Ruffia—of our abandon-
ing Sicily and its monarch, whom we had engaged
to ptoteil and defend; and, therefore, if- the terms
had been a great deal better, be was free to meets
to the Hook and to the country,that he for (Hie would
not have agreed to accept them. Betides, it was to
be remembered, that thole terms-ware not offered;
till Bonaparte had 21E11)1111y let off .ao take the mow'
mand of the army in his war againa Proffitt; sad
it is eafy to forefee that if they had been lillened to
-by his Majefty's Government, reprefentations would
have immediately been made to Ruffia, that Great
Britain was always guided by a paltry, felfifh po-
licy; and it would be impoffible that Ruffia fhould
not he a (offerer by loch an alliance. But his Ma-
jelly's Government never could he for a moment in•
duced to think of forfeiting the honour and good faith
of this country, by abandoning an Ally to whom we
were not only bound in honour, but alt.() by an exprefkl
treaty not to fign a peace but with his confent and
concert. His opinion of the Ruffian connection wee.
that if there yet remained a ray of hope of retrieving I
the calamitous affairs of Europe, that hope was Witty
to he fuflained by a flrift and faithful alliance with'
Raffia, and no temptation, however flattering, no con-1
federation whatever, ought to prevail on us to abatis
don it. The French Government had held out, that
if the terms propoLed were not agreed to, the changes,
in Germany would immediately take place, .and the
offers in future would not be In advantageous ; but
if we could be induced to accept terms, becaule we
might have work offered to us, it would be fubmit-
ring to a &Arline of paffire obediaote -aad non-re-
finance, which might be -highly injurious as well as
degrading to any country. He had already flared,
that Sicily ought to be retained from the pr-feffion
of France, on account of Malta ; and more than that,
we were bound to defend it for the King of Sicily,
who is our Ally, who had lall the kingdom of Naples
in confequence of that alliance. We had fent an army
to Sicily for the purpofe of defending it—that brave
army had (hewn that it was equal to the talk; and
he thotight, that after the brilliant and glorious sic-
tory obtained by it on the Plains of Maids, no perfon
could coanfel his Majefty's Minifters to let their
hauds, and give fandlion to (rich a treaty. The Em-
peror of Raffia, in honour of his crown, had a right
to expert conceffions from France. He had a right,
by former treaties with that Power, to cape& a con-
ceffion, and a compenfation for Sardinia, of which
Bonaparte had poffeffedhimfelf, and in lieu of which
Dalrnatits certainly was not too r:uch. His*Lortlihip
bagged Gentlemen to confider what Dalmatia is : it
is aet a frontier province of France, and therefore not
;equate fir the defame. of that lotion. It is, how-
ever, what is very important to carry in view, an
opening into the heart of the Turkifh empire, by which
the French Government, whilft• it is ifs their pollif-
fion, might-puffi any number of troops they picafe
to overturn the Turkith empire. whenever their
intrigues might have preparedmattars for filch aft en-
torptife. Dalmatia is alfn a flank of the Hungarian
provinces, and either Auftrian Monarchy ; ands what
is of OM more ctrential confequeaco, it is of for gnaw
importance in time of peace than in time of war,
nod: therafores it bee:ma eta AO& nit awl, to kik
fia, but to Europe in general, that it Lhould not be

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ter filtered to teinaht in the hands of the Frenth. We
werehound in honour and good faith to our ally the
.wry etphoifcehtiot Ewe:sof:l.;
niltesettreaft;.ffrrittoniTnefel
given up any Einpetor of Rasifia toinfift on this : that honour and • ,
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" ati:edtaliveeprice of peace. good faith oak •slte Aspic growth of our ceuntry—
her terms accrir.i were ati
~.A. ' 1,. a 'truly &tab fubjeet, and in hk
ranee, however, perpetually
ding to circumftances.• It WaS•firlt, ontilafter the ar-, mina. we ?tiktiali-contending for. In breaking te aline.
rival of Lord Lauderdale at Pails, that Sicily "was' gntion; 'lltOad 'rifled on terms of national py
ahfolntely in6fted nn.' Afterthe treaty was figned bi If we wesetleir4lai'all France had offered into the
M. cliOsibeilon the part of Itut&a, cireumftances took reale againft Sicily and Dalmatia, we mutt fee that ••
an immediate change, and thelanguage of the French it walla liy:erty &cans an equivalent ; but give Si.
Government west/Aryl:featly altered. LordYareaouth city to its,kgitim I
ate Sovereign, and take Dalmatia
had Rated, that Hanover, Ale Cape, Malta and India 'from the hands: and poffeffinn of France, and you •
chain obtain fre e'e ;ree o counterpoife tto thitt over. r•
were to remain untouched ; but in the ill or zd inter-
that event, M. Clarke, the French 'Plenipo- grown poen-, uth'eh Gni°, innately that Government
tentiary, changed his tone, and we had a retrattion of h4ll lately
ilobtaine ast•to
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;the hafts of aBual poffeftion with a vengeance; for in runs credib idd: whas totally d -
return for Hanover, the Cape, Malta, and India, he whole of the ancient (Atm by which the Cont neat
demander: the reftitution of Pondicherry, St. Lucia, •if Europe has fo long been governed. His Lorithip
Surinam, Demerara, Effequibo, and Berbice. 'l'oba- then adverted to the argnmet to Which had cosi fri;
go, indeedpwasto be left as an Englith colony, but ,mer occafion been urged on the intik* of t'suiro 1
all the reit were to be given up without referee.—
and laid nothing could be more unfair than these
ad
Then, with refpeet to Malta, in what manner was it fore and criticifm which had been tried ea altat•he
to remain untouched ?It was propofcd that we fficuld The whole cnndu& Erf the Frenetaiovermitent haj .
hold it, fobjeeed in the bra place to the payment of evinced an unremitting determinatiostowlsring abase
certain pentions, and, in the next, to be limited as the changes they hatl_meditated in .'Germany—the
to the garrifon we were to maintein in it teat certain ' had made vie of theta for the, purport unaucui
number of men ; but even had it been otherv4 4 Taal Lord Yarmouth t. Produce Iris full powers---they feel
no limitations or rearietions had been propofed, but , Prosnifed, :that Ott* negotiation proceeded, the*
that we were Oillao retain it in as full and ample. a, dynes lbould not take place ; but tilde proatifn
Rate of poffeffion as we now do, what, he Aced, -Itrete_made.arite lionaperte' tied departed for the ar.
would.be the value of Make, without the poffeffinn . may, ice. were therefore, in his opinion, not wont;
of Sicily, from which it bad always drawn its re., wets, ' He•aeme had the frtiallea idea they small
fourceeta We mutt have held it fubjee to the difad:i be attended cootie moment longer than k faked his
vaotage and expeace of fending provifions from home,1 "bieliience ; and be would appeal to any tatiatal
or have trußed to the procuring them from the Bar:. thinking man;whtiher he could foppefe, that if et
bary States—a mode much "no precarious and tracer- had then acceded to all bit propofals, and concludei
tain for us to troll tn. Wt.., refveB to Hanover troy , itiee4y-rif piaet, bewonld have Rapped Iris army%
there was to be a material alter auen. That was not its.oparatimesivit lave at ail materially deviated from
to be reacted whole and entire, but was to be de• the p/reivah *Mich 4t was evident hated lose-deter. •
prived of Hoya, a diftriet of confieltrable conftquense,., mined to aft. On the cootrary,osefrineipal induce.
containing at leail to,oaoinhabitants.Thofe were tetras meat held eat to M. D'Oubril, add trf. which he had
to which,in his opinion,it would have been extremely been in ('erne measure swayed to•fign she' treaty of
wrong for Great Britain to agree ; and he thought the seth of :idly, was a promife that the 'changes is
the whole Hours and the country alto would revolt Germany flroald not take Place • wilaweas the treaty
with difguft at the idea, that the equivalent propofed was fear .e*Aetred..--the ink of' the Plenipotentiary
to be given in lien of Sicily was nor to be given to the was feirr'dlty—before the Confederation of the
prefent legithriate,fovereige. the King oiSicily, but Rhine mai& hi appearance, and the French Govern.
to his fon. The prefent Monarch of that Mind, tent deeliteeits fired and firm determination to
which we now held in troll as his friend and ally, was carry it into tee. Proffia could not, thereforeArse
to be actually dethroned, and left to the wide world been at ill heateled by any faerifices that we milbt
for an afylum—s Ripulatipn foregnatitivith cruelty hive made.'and lie could ant lappofe that any one
and injultice, that he thought no man poffeffed of the would battle; that .after' the battle of ' the tacit,
heart of an Engliiiiman could. poffible accede to it. Banapariewowld have ftifferedhimfeif to be 'boned
Such were the terms the French Government in need by anfAreatly he-might antecedently hareetntared in.
on till the 27th of Augult,when they received the ac- Us, one tote farther than exactly fuited the pro jees he
count of the non-ratification of ,the ,Ruffian Treaty, bad Pirated Mr tbe•gtaiiicatkin'of hie tithing* and
figned by M D'Oubril, when the language of their' the eitenffha of his pnitter. This had been 'pretty
negotiators once more affumed a different tone, and, clearly evinced in the •eondoet purfned by his agent,
on the Both of Augult, they teemed fo defirons of ton- Islnnf. Sebaftizni, whom be had difpetched to Cad.
chiding a peace, that Hanover and all its delenden- Rantinnple, to infligate the Turkilk Govetamest
cies were to remain untouched. Malta was to be the againft the Hofpodars. It was a feet clearly eindee.
fame, and they promifed to ufe their interference to Rood and well known, that Monf. Sebadiani 4eirtit
prevail on Holland to give up the poffeffion of the journey to Conflantinnple, paged through thefillatel
Cape whollylind entirely to this country. The Edit I nions of thofe Princes and from many of them ra
Indies were alto to remain as at prefent, and every Iceived 'attli 'of the greateft kindnefs, attention, and
thing wore an afpeet of fincerity ;,and, it molt be civility, the:teeter the very moment on his way to itt•
-d, thofe terms were farrnore favourable than had I ftigate the Mita Govt it to a (late 6f warfare
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againft their,. If surf Misifare of this naterte had, been
adopted in firroornf Pritloa, Bonaparte tafgrif 'very
frircibly, have fitid-to our Ally the Emperor of Raffia,
that Great Britain* *at': Situated by that narrow.
felfitb policy'whWritivef !Oka to rule all beetruni
and itht be' entruld find it his inters* m
ceafe hereafter Invarfortning in alliance with a cat'
try which had Aviiyilts nab :partial interells at beirt,
and made them paramounito every:otter conedbra.
'Ow. For. Bonaparte to have` had any. foirp,datibe
?be filth a charge, would to him have been a Source
of the deeps farrow and regret ; forte, veal& not
tepid rettatmg to rife Houfe, what he Itild ***AO
back ohfervedWef. re- viz. that if EuropeWaleftilt to be
Ptefbtited, eobld be Onirby a clofe Ceintekioii and
alliance taireen Great Britain and Noma. His Ma;
jeßy's Minifters had nevrer loft light for a moment of
the importance of the-advantages ailing from that
connetion ,
.• Ilitylead;lo order to .preferve it trivia.
late, done that'letbieft Arid finely eianibnant to the
faith, the honou'r,itise`pullefi and the real'intenits of
the country. Witt dtei thislollrument of vengeance
nes long to be leaded toga op in his career of car-
nage and conquetl,, it was impoftible fur him ttl
fay ; but he was happy in. the vecolleaiin that hit
Majefly's Governinent *hat tifed every exertion, it
the firlt place, to pro Cure a peace, if peace could
pollibly be obtained on fafe and honourable terms;
and, in the next, to eltablifli loch a connexion, cnt a
firm and i•nmovable hafts, as would enable us to Rem
the prefent calamitous torrent, if any thing could pi.t
a hop to it, by profecuting the war in fuch a manner
as was molt likely to gab for us ultimately, what we
had lately endeaeouted at in vain, viz. a peace ni
terms honourable to ourrelves and our Allies, art&
advantageous, as far as could poflibly be effeeted, to
the general intereßs of Europe. He did not know,
he laid, Ilia, it was at prefent neceffAry for him to
trouble the HouCe on this fubjeft ; but there were
two`points on which he would beg leave to fay s
few words which he had omitted hitherto, but could
not pats over in 'Monet, in jultice to a Noble Lad
his friend (Lind Landerdale), and becaufe it eras
ceffary, in his opinion, that th.: particular fat* as to
one of them fhould be fairly made known to the pule
lie, as it was a fall fo very different fium what had
been reprefenred in the papers publithed in Paris Ci
the fubjeet of the negociation. The fira point oo
which he had to cbferve was relative to that extra,
ordinary letter Paid to Wive been fent to Lord Lao-
derdale on the 4th Of September. A than note had
been fent by M. Talleyrand ro Lord Lauderdale os
that day, requefling a conference wilte Wm at his
office, with which his Lordfhip complied, and the re-3 I
Cult of which was known ; but, if it had been accom-...1
panied by n note-Co intuiting as that publiffied in the
Paris nape's, his Lordfhlp would certainly have bees
juftified in infilling immediately on his p.effporta, and
hive departed the moment he had received theta t
but the fad was, he could affere the Hon*, that no .!
fuch note at that peblilbed in the Paris Pape: s had ever
been received by Lord Lauderdale; and he could
call it by no other name than a forged publication, ,
to salver Come malevolent purpofe or ather of thole
who invented it. in juttiee to his Noble Friend, be •
thought it sectary-to make this deelaration, sod*.
beer his teftimarly to she finotnefis and scarf w;th
which he had aged during the whale ushis emboli”-
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