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7. That the Right Honettrable Henry Dundee was re-appointed
1 t4ferer of the Navy on the sth of January £784, and continued
au the Edd office until the tft of )une !Soo.
S. That in the year an an As!l of Parliament was paired ss
6,., 3 chap. 31, minded "An Aft fur better regulating the office
0 Om 1 resturcr of Ids Majelly's Navy;" whereby it is directed,
I.J nion, y (hail he iffued from the Treafury to the Treafur-
-r, of the Navy; but fiat all monies iffued for naval ferviet s [hall
he p. 41 t•• the Bark on account of naval f< rvices,and placed to the
•••enunt of the Treafurt r of the Navy, and (hall not be pad out of
th, bank unit& for naval fervice, and in purfuatice of drafts fign-
sd by the Treafurcr, or fettle pt.rfn or perfons authorized by
buu ; NLich dr3fts fitall fpecity the heads of (trace to which fueh
ton••• are to he appli,d, and that the regulations under the laid AC
6.11 talic place from the stit July 1785
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9. That the es.cution of the Lid alt swot poftponed till the
no, tit of January 814, and that, from that time till the month
d June t Poo when Loat linelville tort the office of Treafurer con-
:, ay to thepraelice ellahlOwd in the Trcaforcrfhip of the Right
I loooto,ide Ifaae Barre, contrary to the refolutions of the Houfe of
C., tttttt tons, of the thth of June, and in defiance of the pro.
'lons of the above nwtitiooed ACt of the 2Cth Geo. 111. Chap.
3t, large fum. of money were, under prc:enec of Naval Servic...,
:,t.d by a feandalou. .vanan of the ACt, a: c trims times dr .wn
the Bank and insetted in Exchequer and Navy Bill., lent
ulon tae t. curity of Stock. employed in difenouting private bilis,
n. pit-chafing 8..0k and Eall India Mock, and ufed in various ways
lur tiatpurpoh. of private emolument.

to. •1 hat Alexamit r Trotter, Efq. the Paymifter of the Navy,
was the petfon by whom, or in whore name the Public Money
was the employ/A. and that in In doing he elect with the know •
ledge and tract,' of Lord V. Melville, to whom he was at the
fame now 7tivate agent. and for whole ufe or benefit he occafion-
ally laid out from to to ao,oool. without confidaing whether he
was previoufly in advance to his Lordfb:p, and whether fuch
cd-
var.ca w, re made from his public or private balances.
ti. That the Right Honourable Lord Vircount Mehtill- Laving
b. en privy to, and cnnnived at the witkdrawing from the Bank of
lo.elata for purports of p-rate lour& or emolument. fonts if-
tt: d to I.: rii AS 1 riafurcr of the Navy, and placed to his account in
the Bat.k, ac:ording to the provilions of the 25th of Cho. 111.
cFap st, has been guilty of a orals violation of the law, and a
high breach of duty.

S. Tha: it further wean, that fuhfctrett iodic appointment
of lord Ni.:brile as 'Etienne of the Navy In ;!8.1. and durirg
the time he' I that °Mee. I rge films of Milner iffued for the
ferrite of 6- Navy were applied to other fervicm, and that the
faid Lord hleivPle. In a letter written in anfwcr to a Precept if-
kid by the ConwroNoners of Naval Inquiry, requiring an Account
of Money received try hitu, or any perfon on his account, or by
hi. ostler, from the Poynioner of the Navy. and alto of the time
w:oo, and the perfons by whom the fame were returned 'o the
Bank, or Paymofter, has.declared, that he has no materials by
%kith he could make op loch an Account, and that if he bad ma-
terials, he road not do it wltturd difclofing delicate and confid,
tranfottior s of Government, which his duty to the Public mutt
lime retrained him from revealing:
13. That Lard Melville, in applying monies iffued for the (*cr-
oft( of the Navy to other fervices,ftated to have been of In delicate
and confidential a nature, that in his opinion, no Account rap, or
ought to be given of th.:m, has ado.: in a manner inconfintr t with
his duty, and incompatible avlth thole fecurities which the Lead-
inure has provided for the ;roper application of the public money.
The SPEAKER having put the yucftion on the
firfl Refnlution,

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
role, and !poke neatly as follows Without pre-
tending to deny that the Honourable Gentleman has
in a I,r eat meaffire adhered to the prumife which he
made of confidering this fubjeft with moderation
and cnolnefs, I mutt be permitted to fay that he has
not perfrveled in this refnlution to the end. InileaJ
of keeping ltriflly to fans, which ought alone to be
confidered in a criminal charge, he.has appealed to
the feelings ef various defcriprions of perfons, upon to-
pies that are not applicable to the prefent occalion.—
He has touch.:d upon the Public burdens, and hinted
at the fuppolition that thefe burdens, required by the
prefffire of the times, have been aggravated by the
ab.ife of the money, the railing of which forms fo
heavy a tax or the people. Sir, I am willing to allow,
as ever y mar, mail, that if the public money be franan-
dered by any malverfation on the part of the officers
.—(Hear, Atar!)—then the matter becomes a fubjeEt
for grave confideratinn and teritats inviry. But
what I complain if is this, that the Hon. Gen:leman
ha- endeavoured to millet, the public by tndeavour-
ing to circulate the notioti that great additions have
been made to the public burdens, when no fuch ad-
ditions have in the linallett degree taken place, fur
he knows that not a has bean loft to the pub•
lic—(Hear! Hear !j--iiiat no allegation, if any fuch
las has been mentinne,f, anti that, ir 10, no mil
chief whatever has refutted I:cm this tranfaetion—
yroar of r ear! Hear! jr.; Cfipy:ti‘a Bender.)
bit, the Houle mu:l he let flble that it is vet y little
conliaent with the tnrtd.ration and candour that
ought to accompany a ferious charge of this nature,
to proceed with Inch violence, and interrupt a Mtm-
her with clametir. But they need not expeEt to in-
torrupt me with inch noire, which I mug confider as
an attempt to influence the patFoans of the Houle ;
and I have the lefs doubt on the fubjeel, when I re-
colico dle numberlels mifrept efenta.ions brth in and
out of the Houle on this affair—milieptefentations
which have been attended with no little mifchief. It
has been (latest, no. rally that a very confiderable lots
has heen fullai:ie,!, but that our leamen hare, in
confequence ot the mu:Wiens now befire Its, been
prevented fri.m recessing in peeper time the money
due to their vet or, and I In. ir meri:orious fervics.—
(Ao! i•o! from the Ulf ftion.) There has not been
the flii4hteit grounds lor laying any fuch thing, for
I can Safely aver that the delay el an hour has never
taken place in paying loch money, and I do, there-
fore, molt grievoufly, and jultly complain, that this
affair has not been treated with prop,i candour and
moderation. But I have not only to complain that the
Hon. Gentleman laid afide that moderation sit,'
which lie commenced, but that he has given a totally
miltaken view of the materials or, which he founds
his charge. The Hon. Gentleman tells us that the
Noble Lord had an opportunity of anfwering for
himf-11, as if he had been on a fair and impartial
trial—that queltions were put to him—that he was
informed as to the nature of the charge againfl him,
and allowed to fay whatever he chole in his own tie•
fence. Now, whatever inference the Houfe may draw
from all this, it was certainly any thing but a fair
and impartial trial, for it wanted thole circuntartn-
ces that accompany a criminal trial in all well :ego-
hated countries. The Noble Lord had not an oppor-
tunity of knowing exaftly the charges againfi
IN copy a thefe charges had not been given him.—
Ile had no opportunity of calling witneffes in his
favour, nor of crufs-examining thole who might ap-
pear agtinft him. Above all, it was a point attended
to in every trial, that a man Atonic, not criminate
himself. Now there are circumflances that clearly
point nut, that neither the Noble Lord nor the other
perfons who were examined, ought to be confidered
as haying been brought to any thing like a trial, upon
which 4 final judgment could be fafely pallid. They
tad been examined, and required to anfwer queltions
witleatt being made acquainted with the wet view
sslach Inch queltions were put, and without
hearing the nature of the inquiry exactly (fated
UMW. Ido not fay this, Sir, with any view to