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more easy Tor them to set:,,a gooirtirampit to Wan.
it they were heed from those peeuliar reitiale'estindee
which they wi re placed in this respea. He did not
think the insiLuations against ht Royal Highness a
tit subject for that House. However there were re-
prirti „float against the other party. of this alliance,'
And they seemed to derive confirthation, tram its
being undcrstood that she would not be received in a
quarter where it was natural to suppose ghat she
should be received with the greatest warmth. He,
therefore,.saw no reason why his Royal Highness's
allowance should be increased on occasion of a mar-
riage to which there seemed to he such strong go:meals.
of opposition, as his allowance was already hilly so&
cient to maintain bins in a suitatle degree of conduit
and splendour.' In case his Royal Highness's con-
sort should be left a widow, he was sure that House
would feel every disposition to give her an adequate
maintenance. But they were now called on to give
an increased allowance under every circumstance.—
lie could not think the increase was proper, though
it might be if the affiance was approved of by all the
Court, and was an advantage to the country.
Mr. \V. BATHURST said, if the question about
the approbation of a certain individual (the Queen)
of the Royal Family with respect to the marriage had
been answered, he did not know what question might
not be asked nest. The question was reduced to a
very narrow compass, namely, whether all the Meat;
hers of the Royal Family should be 'allowed an ado.
quate provision ? The Legislature . had thought it
proper to allow itch of them £10.0(K) a.yeao while
unmarried.. How then, when the Duke of Cumber-
land wasmartied, could the House refuse to give
him an increased allowance ? He was actuated b
no party feeling in the vote he should give, though
it might be th. ught otherwisei but he could not
think he should discharge his duty if he did not vote
for the ,Bill.
Mr. W. KEENE. repeated his arguments as on a
former occasion against the grant, as an unnecessary
incumbrance on die public.
Kr. PROT/MOB and Mr. Pnastow spoke against
the grant.
doss,
Colonel ELLISON could not think he would
charge his duty if lie did not express his most deter-,
mined opposition to the measure. The House wordcli
suffer deservedly in the opinion of the country should
they grant this unnecessary addition to an allowance
already sufficient. He was sure that it would do
more harm than any oiling of the kind ever did.
Mr. HOME SUMNER fell all the difficulty of
speaking ou such a sehject, but he must discharge
his duty. It was said that this allowance had the
consent of the Pi ince Regent. But it was not said
that it had his approbation. Smile te.rsons had said
that the question with respect to the Queen's senti-
ments on the marriage was improper. He, however,
could not consider it so. He .thought that Ministers
could not justify themselves in advising the Message
c.f the Crown on this occasion. If the marriage had
not the approbation of ad the members of the Royal
Family, they certainly should not give that advice,
if it was not likely to meet the congratulation, or at
least the approbation, of the House and the county y.
An Honourable Gentleman had said, that wirtndd-
ing the allowance would he cruelly towards the wife
of his Royal Highness, in case she should become a
widow. If a measure were proposed to provide for
such a case, he was sure the House would feel no dif.
6culty in acceding to it. But to the present measure
he felt he would not be doing his tiuty if he did. not
most decidedly object.
Sir I'. ACKLAND said be would not, oppose the
proposed grant as excessive, because if it was at all
proper,- he thought it vi ry moderate ; nor would lie
oppose it on account of any insinuation against the
character of his Royal Highness. But he would op.
'pose it because of the connexion that his Royal H gh.
nets had. made. This connaion was not only no ad.
vantage to the country ;it was worse—it war con
wary to the honour of the country. There were ru-
mours afloat, that, if true, rendered it highly dime.
'tlitable ; if they were not true, they ought to be din
proved. These rumours were confirtned by the
cumstance that the object of them would not be re-
ceived in a quarter where natural affection would
4nrake every allowance, every palliation that could be
etipposed at all admissible. But would any one yen,
sure to deny those rumours ? If not, then there surely
Legere parliamentary grounds fur not granting any ad.
ditional allowance in consequence of such' an obnoll-
one connexion. It had been said, that as the mar-
riage had taken place, there was now nothing to be
done but granting the allowance. True the marriage
had been solemnized, and they were not seeking to
dissolve it ; but when the representatives of a tree
people were asked to tax themselves for the con-
nexion, it ought at least to be shewn that it was not'
a dishonourable one. The House was not consulted
on the marriage, and therefore they could not have
givers their consent toot ; but if they were now ;0,1
make this grant they would more than consent to if;{
they would approve of 'it—(lfear, hear, heart)—He'
thought that even out of respect to the Royal Fa-
mily itself they should not agree to tht measure ; for
they should not load that family with the-odium or
seeming to have approved of such a connexion.
Mr. FORBES said there was a hue and ern raised
on the occasion ; hut none of the rumours afloat as.
slimed any thing of form or shape. The Honour.
able Baronet was bound to shew that duet was some
foundation for these rumours before h-u made them
the grounds of iciusing a grant whie:i. Inc would
otherwise. approve of. He had made it a constant
rule of his life never to rive credit to mere report.—
fie thought such a rule was worthy the Honourable
Baronet's adoption! He saw every thing in favour
of this grant—nothing against, it but vague rumour.
Sr GERARD NOEL was sorry that such a line
of procerdhig as had been adopted on this occasion
had heen.p}irsued. He had no motive whatsoever
other than what he con:eived his duty in giving his
vottslor the nipasure. Instead of Amu() a year, be
could wish that the grant was alflo,ooo. He thought
that mere' policy would direct the grant, and that we
should !TT:tinier-the Illustrious pair t remain in the
country, rather' than by as unbecoming rudeness
make them trite it.. By giving this 4€ooo a year,
we may !types the other 4111,0 Up a year in the coun-
try ; but i relusintthe'lester aunt, ere shoal& ter-
eatinly lose t4e. larger. He therelor! javf. • his most
coidiat swims% to file Bill.
'The Hore then 4jvide4 asql44loud criai

"than t whii Oki sumbeTi wad —to Oki standiveiNg‘
.128 t against it, 12,53. majority for.the antadrasat,
Thp Bill ward cootie lost.- •
nut or roar: •
tir J. bIARJORIMNKS said, that- on giving-
notice on Friday list, of a motion of thanka to tfte
Duke of York. he was influenced by no other c.onsi.•
deration than that he did not thinkthe vote propoled."
lest year was sufficiently extensive a return for the
services of that illustrious personage t and that it was
not so. bad been a subject of regret to himself and
.every man with whom he had conversed, on,the sub.
jest. He declared that he acted with perfect impar-
tiality in the motion he intended to bring forward, as
he was not personally acquainted with the Pirko 'of
York. .As present he only wished to postpone his
motion from this day till to-morrow.

STASIPS.
Mr. BROGDEN brought up the Report of the
Stamp Sill, on which
• Mr. GRENFELL repeated what he had said on
the subject of the loss the public had.altogedier sus •
rained by a Proper compensation not hiving been
made by the Bank, and which amounted to at least
£500,000. This statement he hail since had an bp.
pastunity of verifying ; in contradiction to whit had
betn asserted by the Hon. Member for Surrey. What
the Bank had paid as a compensation previous to
1799, was a full equivalent, and even more. But he
'Would repeat, that since the year 1804, the Bank had
`4enefited. improperly to the injury of the-publie to
dm amount of iftsB4NO. They ought, therefrire. in
.justice,. to make restitution of this sum. During Mr.
Pitt's Administration they never enjoyed any bonus
.whatever.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
aid, dm as to the amount which' the Bank had paid
up to 1790, there was no account before the House of
the number of notes in circulation till that time 1. but
Me was still impressed.with the opinion that the Mask
Awn enjoyed a considerable advantage in their com-
position..
• Mr. GRENFELL repeated the calculations he ;
had entered into on a former evening, in proof of the
advantage the. Bank bad gained by the issue of diffe-
rent notes. The compensation in 1799 for all notes
,above 45 was upwards of ODOM He stated the
increase of profit which must. evidently have, arisen
from the increase in the issue of awes at different pe-
riods since that year.
,
1 Mr. MANNING contended that the Chancellor
had done hii dtity fairly and •honourably towards the
Bank and.the public, and bad made an advantageous
bargain for the latter.
Mr. TIERNEY agreed with his Hon: Friend,
that the claim for £534,000 on the Bank, was only
one on.their liberality, and therefore he might as well
have said nothing about it. He contended that the
Bank ought to pay to the uttermost farthing, which'
all otherliankers in the kingdom are called on to pay.
The ground the' Treasury ought .to proceed on, was
to ascertain the real number of notes issued, and then
toput the Bank on the .same footing as other esta-
blishments.
• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
repeated, that he was convinced the present compo-
sition was fully as large is Goverupent had o right
to call for from the:Bank.
Mr. BARING repeated many of his former re:
marks in favour of the, present compensation ; and as-
to the opinion of his Hon. Friend that a large sum
ought to be refunded, he thought, on the chow try, that
the compensation ought to be'made the other way.'
After some, further remarks from Mi. Towle;
the CHANCSLLOR of the LICHIMOKR, MT. S. THORN-
:MN, Mr. Gititalrlt.r...,. and, Mr. tiiiitsrow, the last of
whomrepeated his objectioni to the Probsite'Dinies.
The Amendments. of the Committee were iigrteff:
to, with some fresh alterations: 4n certain clauses.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved a clause, providing that n 0 Bunker-in bcotiattt
should be compelled to take out more than fioir
licences, whatever might be the number of trio ava.
rate trenches of his concern. The clause was adop.
red, as also one of a similar nature for England.
The Report *as then Agreed to, and the Bill or,
Jsrad to be read a third time to-morrow.
SANK
• On the Order of the Day being read for resuming
the adjourned debate on the Resolutions respecting
the Bank Deposits.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved, that the debate should be postponed till that
day sennight.•
A long and desultory conversation atose on this
question. -
Mi. MELLISH said, if the subject were to be en-
tered into at all, the Bank Directors would prefer
meeting the question. now, to have it hang over their
heads till another Session. '
Mr. GRENFELL said he was not disposed t')
shrink from the discussion. The delay which had'
taken glace was not through any fault of hie. Tke
causes of it he shortly described. He was satisfied,
the more the' subject was discussed, the sooner he
should accomplish the object he had in view- He
wished to obtain for the country a large sum of money
which the Bank ought to pay. •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said no incrinienience could result from further time
being given for the consideration of this subject, either
to the iTheciors of the Bank, or to the Honourable
Gentleman opposite (Mr. Grenfell). The Rrslie.
lions of the latter would put the public in possession
of sufficient infOrmatioo to prepare them for the prat..
tical results which might follow.
Mr. MANNING complained of the improper im.
pression that would be left'oo the public mind from
the resolutions of the Honourable Gent:email. So
far as the Bank Directors were concerned, chi y were
unanimous in wishing to 'nevi the subject now, rather
than let it stand over to another Session, it t-were
thought necessary so enter into • it at all: • He con.
tended that there was not the. shadow of a Pretext for
enquiring into the sums paid for the management of
the National Debt. In •Ibo 7, when the allowance
was £450 per million, the letniaiteiatinli was bust Iod.
for every 41100.; and when, by Mu. Percival's-Bill,
;:the allowance per million was reduced to £3404 it.
would be seen the Batik was paid fur that service no
More titan Sti? per cent. .
Mr. TIERNEY denied that the Bank Directors,
(who. though they. had all along opposed. the in-
quiry, now appeared to sigh for the discussion,) had
any right to complain of the cosine pursued by his
f•iunournble Friend (141.. GrFn#ll). It his rebolo-
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dens wore likely to creole an unfair imprersioo. it
would have been easy for them to hare guarded.
'egainst.thisedfeet. by bringing forward eounter.reso-
heions, which would have gone before the public
with thou rt his Honnurabll Friend.
/After further remarks from the CHANCELLOR of
Eticetottiput. Mr. Foneas,. end Mr. TisoltuToN,
•'lde.GltttilifELLhaving-repliea to the aigonsesits -
of tlie Bank Directors.. proposed to move, as they •
.were so anxious the subject should be debated in the
PresinifSgsirtili; io resume the discuisidn on Th arts] sy.
The CAAK,ELGOK 'of 'the EXCHEQUER
h; coati hhei. nn objectiiin to sdch• pro' on. as
on that daT there 'Would bb 'odbody in the House to
he'arit. •
.MV. BANN% Mr. Hattuarmar. and Mr. B. Slum.
effered,a low °increasing's, after which the motion
tor phsrpomiritthe debate to htinday was agreed to.
' The Hacktity'Coaclo ILK went through a Corn-
ptitteC' A -Claim' was added to it no Mr. Hetsr s-
utt's sstggeitihn for lieencing one-horse op, c +river.
• antes at two•thirds of the prices of common hackney
'coaches. Report to morrow:
The tkport 14 the Committee on Ilse East India
postage Bill was hr..usist up. and :red to •
The Forces Seduction. the inti- rt pers. and the
Agents General Biils were read a Aiiira time and
passed.
The other Orders of the Day were tlitn &posed
of.-.. Adjourned.