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- 4 Islust against it, pepvided the Jougnigapf the Psi'
what the laws could not reach, public contempt-could. was not disrespecdul.to theAkon fie could not,
--He was not here to answer for the conduct of the howevee,:vit Gown without airtielUg an inconsistency
Bensons :he did not call them, incense he had no use into whlgh these notable Petitioners had fallen. He,
for them; he disclaimed any Connection with them: by the Way, had never heard that the Jesuits made a
bet it must be.considered that they were not there to • phint.if suppressing improvement. He believed, and
answer for themselves; and, when they did stand upon had 'always understood, that education was their ob-
their own trial; it was to be hoped they would beoble jest towards their proselytes, though they. might
to relieve them elves from the load of guilt which endeavour, to give a perverted turn to its effects.—
hung over them. All he asked in their Favour of • • The Petitioners, however, thought otherwise, and
public opinion was, that -the charges against them I that the object of the Jesuits was to keep the human
might not be taken as proved, until they were charged I mind iii darkness; but it appeared that the Petitioners
with, and tried upon the specific offences.—The themselves were no great proficients in the first rudi-
Learned Serjeant commented upon
.the circum- ments of education—he meant the art of spelling—
stances attending the marriage, and urged that, from (Laughter).—He had just run his eye over the Peti-
whit was given in evidence, it appeared the Earl tion, and he found they had mis-spelled ; and. of all
was extremely anxious to get married ; in which de- words for them to spell, they had mis-spelled the
sign Lady Henrietta Wallop has laudably endea-. word " Intolerance," to which they had given three
voured to assist him in mafcitig a choice, although e's ; two es had they given to the word „Jesuit," but
Ladies were not always willing to aid in procuring then they- had taken care in return to deduct an e
a husband for others—(Loud Laughter).—lt ap- from the word " pervade"—(Laughter):--The Yeti-
peared that Lord Portsmouth must have been ac.- tion was then ordered to lie on the table.
quainted with Miss Hanson for some time: and al- Mr. BROMILOW said, he had a third Petition
though he had fallen into an improper marriage, and to present, similar to the other two. It would, he
the conduct of the family was indefensible, yet he trusted, be fOund free from the fault which bad been
had done no more than what thousands of undoubted detected in the last by the Honourable and Learned
wisdom had done. The Hansons had undoubtedly Gentleman. He was again free to declare, that he
acted improperly; but let it be recollected, that, how- had never heard of the existence, in any part of Ire-
ever culpable the act might be, it carried its own pu- land with which be was acquainted, of an Order of
nishment with it—it carried the punishment of public Jesuits—(Hear).—He assured the House it was pain-
opinion—contempt would mark them wherever they ful to him to be called upon to present Petitions
went. It formed a powerful instance how which contained matter likely to cause irritation—
., Even-banded Justice (Cheers).—lt was the curse of Ireland, that one part
" Returns the ingredients of the poisoned chalice of her population had always been arrayed against
" To our own lips."
the other—( Hear).
This would apply to all who helped forward that
marriage. What must have been the feelings of that Mr. GRATFAN thought a discretion ought to be
family during the last fortnight! How must they, in exercised by Hon. Members as to the presenting of
the bitterness of their hearts, have deprecated that such Petitions. if such a Petition as the present
marriage! How must they now deplore departing from were offered him b his own- constituents, he would
the straight road of truth and integrity, from motives not present it.
of interest and ambition, to wander in the labyrinths Sir HENRY PARNELL said, he firmly believed
of guilt and crime! no such Order as that mentioned by the Petitioners
One of the Jury now observed, that if the Learned had ever been established in Ireland.
Serjeant found himself fatigued, it was not wished Mr. SPRING RICE said, he could rot state Whe-
that he should proceed.—Merjeant Pell immediately tlier such, an Order had or had not been established.
said, he should feel obliged by being permitted to He knew an impiession prevailed in some parts of
resume his speech to-morrow.—The Court accord- Ireland that it bad. Even if it did, he was not aware
ingly adjourned. that that circumstance of itself constituted an offence.
He believed most of the complaints against the
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Je-
suits arose out of their political conduct ; and as they
had now lost all political power, he thought they
would do good rather than otherwise.
Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE said, that al-
though the Petitioners were not members of learned
Institutions, and although they had not received so
complete an education as some Hon. Members, their
complaints were not le.s entitled to attention. For
his own part, he had no doubt that some such an In-
stitution as that complained of, or similar to it in
principle, did really exist.
. Mr. BROUGHAM explained. He had not the
slightest intention to reflect on the want of education
of the Petitioners. He had only intended to notice
the inconsistency into which they had fallen, by ac-
cusing the Jesuits of a desire to keep- people ignorant,
while they, the petitiuners themselves, who had of
course drawn their education from other sources, ap-
peared ignorant of its first rudime.it..—The Petition
was then °nieced to lie on the table.
IRISH SALT DUTY.

Mr. C. HUTCHINSON presented a Petition, which
he stated to be numerously and respectably signed by
persons engaged in the provision trade at Cork, com-
plaining of the effect which the repeal of the English
Salt Duty had had upon their trade. This would be
at once perceived, when it was found that, before
the repeal in question, the English bore a propOrtion
to the Irish Salt Doty of fifteen shillings to two. This
inconvenience had also been =Eli increased by the
removal of the drawback, which had been taken
away by the Repeal Bill. He was well aware that
the Chancellor of the Exchequer last year, who Was
now a Noble Lord in another place, bad aeted in'the
kindest way towards Ireland on the occasion in ques-
tion, and that he had no tuterition to. cause the injury
which he bad Pointed out. ketruited the Bight Hon.
Gentleman opposite would see the ;necessity of re-
storing the drawback.
Sir JOIIN NEWPORT said, that as he should
have a similar Petition to present, he took this oppor-
tunity of stating his concur' ence in what had fallen
from hi L Hon. Friend.
The C.ll-A1 CELLOII of the EXCHEQUER said,
he was very anxious to give the molt, laminable cep-
sideratiOn to the case of the Petitioners, He was per-
fectly aware that the. reduction of the Sslt Duty
would be priudicial. to some interests, and it.was
his desire to.afford them every possible benefit. A
diEficulti, hoWever, had presinted itself in the case
of the Petitioners, princiPalli.arising Out of the Union
Act. If it could be got over, he shoild bugled to
render every assistance to the Irish provision Trade—
aka/I.—The Petition was Ordered to lie on the table.
IBlsi POSTAGE.,
.Mr. C. lIU,TCFIII4SON 'preset4ed a Petition froth
certain Merchants of Cork, complaining of the heavy
rate of postage on letteri between Great Britain and
Ireland.. The postage of a letter from Loridon to
Cork, he believed, was ls. 10d. while that for an
equal or a greatr diitance in lengland was bat Md.
He hoped this grievance would be remedied. by hii
Majesty's Government.
Mr. F. LEWIS said, that postage could not be
considered as a mete tax. The tax consisted only in
the difference between the sum expended and that re-
ceived—a difference I..vhiah• was much less in the
Teasel than in the English Post-office.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT conceived that this was of
no consequence as applied, to the present question. In
consequence of the poverty' of Ireland it had leis of
communication by letter; but on 'Wit account the
grievance pressed more on those wholeeeifed letter&
Mr. GOULBURN said, the rate of prioge was
necessarily higher upon letters from England to Ire-
land than from one part of England to another: I%
expense of shipping was very considerable, and this
being taken into account, the present rates were pot
po bg conceived too Mgh. .
Tet ti on was then read and ordered to.lie on
'4lte table; as were one presented by Mr. Sritttio RIC;
from Tipperary, against the Coroner's Bill, and one
by Sir JOHN NEWPORT, from Waterford, res
teting,
the Irish. Salt Duty, simaar• to that preSep 'fro.
Cork by Mr. C. HuicimitiON.
PUTHWARIC
Mr. C. CALVERT presented a Petition from the