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an& prefeated the eonfiquencet of i too .precipitate
decifion. There bad been a good deal advanced re-
fpelting the propriety of bringing forward charges
againit the Naval Commiffinners if they were fuppoied
guilty of any ail opprelfion. But be faw no ma-
rtin for the ufe of fuck language. It would be ra-
ther too hard, that, after almolt abfolute and unpre•

cedented powers were bellowed, Members [held not
be allowed to comment on the mode on which they

were ufed without being called on to bring a crimi-
nal charge. He did not think it fair when abufes
were pointed out, a• an Honourable Baronet had in a

particular cafe endeavoured to efiablifb, to have fuch
observations treated in a taunting manner, as had
been done by the tan fpeaker. On the whole lee fup-
ported the Amendment, as leaving the whole matter
open fitr future difcdfion. •
Mr. FOX denied that he bad need any taunting
language. If, in what be (aid, there was appear
since of taunt, it was not applied to the Worthy Ba-
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ronet, ahem,on the contrary. be praifed for his fair

and open dealing. If there was any thing of taunt,
it applied io thole who could hear arguments and ap-
prove them fecretly. without having the courage
openly to fupport them.
Sir C. POLE ('aid, that it was originally intended
the Bill fliould end with the prefent Seffion, but he
knew that there were Rill many departments remain-

ing to be enquired into.
Mr. BATHURST rofe, not for the purpofe of
complyingwith the demand of any t.ientleman whom
he would not admit to have the right of perfonally
requiring of him an explanation as to any change
in his fentiments refpeeting the continuance of the
Comm.(llion, but to (tate his reafons for oppofing the
motion. After the candid manner in which the mo.

Lion was met, he bad been in Come expeCtation that

the Hon. and Learned Gentleman would not hive

perfilted in his motion. It was not now necetfary to
difctifs, whether the Commiffion should 'aft one or
two years. Undoubtedly the intention of Parliament
was, that fuch a consnsiffion fhould exia, and it was

therefore proper, that a reafonable time should be
allowed to it for tranfaeting the bufinefs with which
it was entruffed, confi Rent with fair expedition. With
refpea to that part of the Learned Gentleman's at.
garment which tended to maintain the neceffity of re-
newing the Bill, hecaufe it was within poffibility that
the prerogative may be exerted to defiroy the ex&
ence of the commiffion, he thought it the moft
travagant he had ever heard. It was not proper for
Parliament to argue and decide upon fuch outrage-
ous prefumption. It was not credible, that any Mi-
oilier would be foond to advife the exertion of the
prerogative for fuch a paltry purpofe as that of get-
ting rid of the prefent Bill. There was no imme-
diate neceflity apparent to him for taking the fubjea
into confideration, and be would therefore vote for
the previous question, merely upon the declaration of
the Right Hon. Gentleman under him.
Lord HENRY PETTY did not fee the neceffity
that in cafes where great powers are confided by Par-
liament, the perfons tovefied with thofe powers Gould
be teat-idled in point of time. The propofal of his
Learned Friend went no further than to give the Bill
the extent which it was now demonßrated to the fa
lisfattion.of the Houfe it was originally intended it
Ihould have. -He thought that Parliament having
once adopted the meafure, was, in confiflency, bound
to continue it. There was little apprehenfion that the
ideas thrown out by force perfons, refpefling the dan.
ger which might refult from the existence of fuch a
commiffion, without any thing to operate upon,
Ihould ever be realized. The 'abufes which it was
the objett of it to dila:over and corral were numerous
and notorious, and, he hoped, that the advocates for
palling bong meafures, upon the foie grounds of
notoriety, would not deem themfelves jußifisble in
oppofing a meafure founded on their own principles,
and from the continuance of which it was univerfaUy
allowed the public had derived the molt extenfiva and
important advantages.
Mr. I. H. BROWNE profefied to feel as much
confidence as any man in the promife of his Right
Honourable Friend (the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer) on this occafion, but, confillently with thefup-
port which he originally felt it his duty to give to
this Bill, the convelion he bad of its importance, and
the needfity which appeared for its farther continu-
ance, he could not perfuade himfelf to vote againft
the motion of die Learned Gentleman on the other
fide.

Mr. TIERNEY was .furprifcd, from the trifling,
if any, difference of opinion which tallied between
both fides of the Houfe upon the merits of this Bill,
that there fhnuld be any objedion to a motion for its
further continuance. It was allowed on all hands
that the Commiffioners a&ing under this Bill had,
throughout the whole of their conduit, with the ex-
ception of one angle inflance only, deferred the
higheß praife. Why then fhould the Houfe hefitate
to inreft fuchaommiffioners with the power ne-
ceffary to enable them to difcharge their duty with
full effete ? In order to this, he thought the exiftence
of their power fbould be liable, and not dependant
on the duration of a Seffion.—As to the danger ap-
prehended from filch a Commiffion, during the exitt-
ence of a war, he thought that the experience we had
already had, was fufficient to remove that apprehen-
fion. The commiffion had originated in time of peace,
but yet we had been at war during the greater part of
itscontinuance, and yet no inconvenience whatever ap-
peal ed to have refulted from it; quite the contrary, and
if was his opinion, and that of many gallant and intel-
hgent officers, that if it were interrupted in its pro-
grefs before its inveftigations fhould be completed,
ves y great mifchiefs would arife. An Hon. Baronet
had Stated, that if the objed of the cnmmiffion appear-
ed to be unattainable before the expiration of the SeC
application would, and ought to be then made
for the continuance of this bill. But he would put it
to the candid confideration of the Houfe, whether,
thinking as they and the public did, of the exertions
of thefe Commiflioners, it would be decorous to limit
them in point of time, or wait for their application to
continue the Aft ?Whether it would not be more be-
' coming to be beforehand with them, and to rene*
the bill at once ? His opinion was decidedly in fa-
vour of the latter coin fe, and he law no good, though
he could well fuppofe much evil, that might fol-
low from the poftponement propored by the
Motion of the Right Honourable Gentleman, (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer). To the affurance of
that Right Honourable Gentleman, that he would
bring forward a props:A.okm for the continue:tee of
the ad under coofidcratiou in Iba purls of the 36,

flans, ffionid neceity appear to call for it, he was
ready to give credit. But it might happen that the
Right Honourable Gentleman, however well dif-
poled, would be unable to cart y the propofition into
effta. Many changes might occur in the courfe of a
feffions ; he did not mean to fpeak as to ordinary
events ; but even in the fitu:ttion of the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman a change might occur. Per-
haps the Right Honourable Gentleman did not feel
at all the uncertainty of a fitnation in power, though,
he could affure him, that he felt that uncertainty (a
laugh) ; and therefore it was that he could not en-
tirely rely on the Right Honourable Gentleman's
promife, or, rather, that he could not rely on his ca-
pacity to fulfil it. He would not silk this important
Bill upon a contingency, and if the fituation of the -
Right Honourable Gentleman fhould be changed, his
willies and eloquence might not poflibly have foal-
cient influence to carry the renewal of this Bill. For
this reafon it was, that he defired to refs the motion
for its renewal at prefent ; and afro, becaufe he thought
fuch immediate renewal necetl'ary to give vigour
and efficacy to the operation of the Commiffion. No
man could fuppofe that that Commiffion could,proceed
with (itch effea, if they were to calculate upon the ex-
piration of their power within three or four months. as
if that power were enlarged in the manner propofcd by
the motion. It was impoffible indeed, that they could
accomplith the ob,jeta of their inquiry within the Set-
fions. They had, oe underftood, much information to
look for from diftant countries, particularly in their
inquiry into the Viilualling Department. How then
could it be reckoned upon that fuch inquiry Eoold be
completed within a fliort time ; particularly as-it was
Rated by his Noble Friend, that their bufinefs viksjaft ;
accumulating ? With refpea to the allufions made. o
the views of thofe by whom the motion was propo :
thofe views he did not know ; but he knew the view
As
which induced him originally to fupport this Bill.—
That view was, becaufe he thought it proper and
neceffary to invelligate the abufes that were gene-
rally fuppofed to extft in the expence of the different
departments of the Navy. Of this neceffity he wee
now fully convinced. The vaft mall of evidence on the
Table furniffied by the Reports of thofe Commit:Gon-
ers, was the belt teltimony of their merit, and the
ftrongeft argument in favour of the Motion before
the Houfe. Thofe Reports contained fuch matter
as was highly deferving the attention of the Houle,
and fuck as he trolled would, by becoming the fub-
jea of Carious confideration, prove that Parliament
was as anxious to intereft itfelf in the concerns of
public (economy as in any other fubje&.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER in
explanation Rated. That fome CI entlemen'feemed
much to ntifunderftand his obfervatious with refpea
to the Reports from the Commiflion, to which the
Motion before the Houfe referred. He had laid,
that there were many important fuggetlions in thole
Reports ; but he would not be underflood at all to
pledge himfelf, to take any particular proceeding in
confequence of thofe fuggeftions. This was a con-
fideration upon which he held himfelf free to make
up his mind.
The divifion being called for, ftrangers were ex-
cluded, and the numbers were. For the original mo-
tion 75.—For the Amendment sp.—Majority for the
Minilter 57.
While we were abfent from the gallery, the renew.
al of the difcutlion refpatiog the ICeport of the Com-
mittee on the conduit of Meas. Rawlins and Coe.
at the Middlefex eleaion of tifoa, was poftponed till
this day fe'nnight. Previous to the poftponement,
fome converfation took place between Mr. Sheridan
and the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Upon Mr,
Sheridan's moving for the po..oponement, the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer exprelfed a with that a dar
might be fixed upon when the decifion of this buff,
nefs &mild certainly take place, and that no farther
poftponement ffiould be looked fur.
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• On our re•admition into the gallery, the Clerk
was reading the refolutions of the Expiring Lams
Committee, which were agreed to, and Bilk ordered
accordingly.
The lilt of perfons to be appointed under the A 4,
relating to the India judicature was brought up, read,
and agreed to.
Mr. H. THORNTON prefented a petition from
the Direetors of the Sierra Leone Company, praying
aid. Ordeted to lie on the Table.—Adjourned till
Monday.

KNARESBOROUGH ELECTION COMMITTEE, PE8.211.

The Committee met this day, to confider of the
petition of certain Burgage Holders of the Town and
Borough of Knarefborough, in the County of Yerk,
Lord Wm. RV iss Li. Chairman.

The Peddon [tined, that the Clerk of the Chown had. tome
time in July kit, 'Sued a writ &rated to the Bailiffs of Knarefe
borough. commanding them to elect a Burgers to terve in Parlia-
ment in the room of Lord George Cavendith who had accepted
the Chiltern Hundreds; that on the day appointed for *e elation,
the town hall, where the elettloa was to have been, was forcibly
(deed and taken poffellion of by a mob, cornpoled of leveret hun.
deed perfons, who occupied the Itaircafe and avenues, and pee.
I vented all accds to it ; that the Magiftrates and Conftables, in at-
tempting to enforce the public peace, were 'nutted and beaten ;
that various ads of outrage were committed. and that the Magtf-
trates and Bailiffs, awed and intimidated by the violence of the
mob, were unable to proceed to the elation, and had therefore
been under the neceffity of making a (pedal return to the Houfe of
Commons, flaring all the fads and cireumftances of the riot--o
The Petitioners concluded by praying that relief which was
adapted to their complaint.
Mr. ?Louse, in a very energetic fpeech, Gated the
cafe on the part of the Petitioners. He de.,lored the
event he had to detail as one which was in the high.
eft degree difgraceful to the country. It was a con-
fiderable aggravation of the shameful riot which
formed the fobjed of the petition, that it had been
infligated by perfons, who, from their fituations in
life, ought to have known better, or rather to have
'tied their exertions in preventing it. Upon the writ
being received by the bailiffs, they applied to Sir
John Ingleby, an alive magillrate, of great weight
and authority in the county, for the purport of ob-
taining his aid and co-operation in preferving order
at the eleflion. That Gentleman adopted every pre.
caution he deemed necelfary. He appointed upwards
of tw:nty fpecial conftsbles to aMft the ordinary ci-
vil power. On the morning appointed for the elec-
tion, they proceeded to the Town Hall. At this
time no candidatt bad profeffed an intention of nand-
ing, and confequently what followed mutt have been
the refult of a determination to deftroy the dn of
eledtion altogether. When they reached the J.'owa
Hell they found it occupied and furrotlnded by
a formidable mob, headed and eisconregrd by a
Mr. Map sa ittunter. shod Mr. PPM', LUMP.