Star.
London, England, 1823-04-22 00:00:00

IRELAND.

Sir N. COLTHURST moved for an humble Ad-
dress to the Crown, praying for Copies of Addres- es
presented to his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland by the Grand Jurors of the County and City
of Cork, at the late Spring Assizes, together with a
Copy of the Address received from the assembled
Magistrates of the said County.
Mr. GOULBURN said, it was his intention on the
SOth inst. to propose to the House the renewal of the
Insurrection Act, and then an opportunity would
offer for discos..ing everything connected with the
disturbed state of Ireland. He had only abstained
from calling the attention of the House to the sub-
ject sooner,-that the Papers which ioight throw light
on it should be in the hands of the House.— Motion
agreed to.
Lord ENNIS MORE moved an Address to the
Crown, fot a return from the Clerk of the Crown in
the County of Cork, of all persons who bad beet!l
tried under the Insurrection Act, from the commence-
ment of the Special Session up to the 19th of the
present month. He offered this motion to.the House
for the purpose of ascertaining how the lnsnrrectiuu
Act had been applied in the county of Cork.
Mr. 13ENNET wished to know if the Government
had any other remedy to propose for the existing
evils than the renewal of the insurrection Act?
Mr. GOULBURN said, as the motion of which
he had "given notice would so soon be before the
House, he thougl.t it would be better to deter giving
his reply till then. _ _

. Mr. ABLRCROMBY•snpported the motion, as Le
understood the country to be in a most alarming
state, havi❑g been informed that two hundred per-
sons had been discharged or acquitted in consequence
of the witnesses being afraid to appear against them.
Mr. V. FITZGgItALD wished for a more general
return than that which had been called for by the
Noble Lord. He thought it ought not to bz. con-
fined to the county of Cork. He therefore moved, as
an amendment, to leave out the words " the county
of Cork," for the purpose of inserting these words—
" those counties in which the Insurrection Act was
in force."—After a few words from Sir Join Nzw-
PORT, the amended motion was agreed to..

WAREHOUSING DILL.
Mr. WALLACE moved the third reading of the
Warehousing Bill.
Mr. BRIGHT said, that he must call the attention
of the House to the state of this Bill, which ought to
be made more perfect before being suffered to pass
into a law. The powers left in• the hands of the
Lords of the Treasury and the Commissioners of Ex-
cise were truly frightful, and put the interests of
trade in the most perilous situation. As an instance,
the forfeiture of a ship was to be enacted by the Bill,
for the bare attempt to unload any pan of a cargo
once loaded, and the mitigation of this pttnishmeht
was left with the Lords of the Trearury.
Mr. WALLACE had a few.arnendmentslti Teo-
pose, which he tru'ted would meet the ohjectSons of
the Honourable Gentleman. The first respected the
bond required by the present Bill from the Captains
' of ships; that was found to woi k great inconvenience
to trade. Ile proposed to abandon this provision,
and substitute the of the Owners. Another al-
teration related to goods removed from one port to
another. At present the bond of the first owner oT
the goods hung over him till they were delivered and
regularly sold. He proposed to cartel the bond of
the first owner in such cases, And take that of the
purchaser instead of it. Another alteration regarded
goods, which being imported for exportation might
rind a better price by being put into the home market:
He would provide for that upon paying the difference.
Another alteration would enable slp-owners to
transfer sto.ei which had not been consumed in a
voyage to another ship going cm another destination.
The next alteration went to apply the 'regulations on
shipping coffee, which now applied only to plantation
coffee, to all other kinds of coffce. He had extended
the same regulations to rum, at the suggestion of the
Eloncurable Meritber for Bristol. Another regulatita
affected the warehousing of East India pods, a 11 ich
took place at present under the 43d George I:r._
That Act was to be repealed by4.lse present Bill, and
it. KAS accessary to make some provisioti

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ntention of making an alteration in,the staple manu-
facture of Ireland had, he regretted to say, amid
some alarm. He was satisfied how important it was
not to agitate the subject of a proposed immtant
change in the 'state of the trade of a country, at pre•
sent in a very highly agitated state of political feeling.
The peace and tranquillity of a whole peoPle was of
too much value to be disturbed by the introduction
of even a valuable improvement contrary to existing
prejudices. He hoped the time was not distant when
these groundless alarms would cease. It was possible
his object might have been misunderstood ; but to
make it obvious that it was not his wish to force any,

even beneficial measures, he informed the House
that he should move an Amendment to leave out
the clause for permitting the importation into these
ports of foreign linens, under the regulations pre-
scribed by this Bill, and leaving the trade of Ireland
in linen all the protection it at present enjoyed by the
old laws on the subject.
After a few verbal Amendments, the remaining
clauses were agreed to, and the Bill passed.
COMPOSITION OF IRISH TITHES PILL.

On the Motion of Mr. GoutsunN, the above Bill
was read a second time...
On the Motion 4g Mat this Bill be committed," .

Mr. S. RICE, wishing to make this Bill as efficient
as possible, would throw out a few words as to the
course of proceeding which he thought ought to be
pursued. He feared, that in a Bill of this description,
which was altogether a Bill of detail, it was nest to
impossible to reduce it to such a shape as would make
it woe k well in its ordinary passage through the House.
lie therefore wished that it should be investigated in
a Committee above stairs, and there viewed in all its
provisions by men of all sides and all parties. By
this means it might be made agreeable to the Goiern-
ment of Ireland, and moulded into a peace-offering
to that distracted country. He wished to know
whether the Secretary for Ireland had any objection
to that course ?

Mr. GOULBURN was of opinion, that the best
mode of investigating the provisions of the Bill would
be in a Committee of the whole I louse, in which every
necessary alteration might be adopted. The present
measure was connected not only with the interests of
individuals, but also with those of the community;
and he was sure that the proceedings would -not be
taciiiiated if :t were sent up stairs. In an open Com-
mittee there would be less order than in a Committee
of the whole House ; and a gi eater number of persons
would not attend than those who, being interested in
the measure, would give their assistance in an ordi-
nary Committee. He was fully aware of the difficult
task which he bad undettaken ; but still, in his opi-
Dion, the subject could be as well discussed in a Com-,
mittee of the whole house, as in a Select Committee
up stairs.
After a few words from Mr.V. FITZGERALD, Col.
BARRY, Sir J. NEWPORT, Mr. Secretary PEEL, Sir
H. PARNELL, and Col.FuENcu,
Mr. HUME rose. He would not oppose the pass-
ing of the Bill*; he could not, however, support the
principles of it. lle tegtetted that his motion of last
Session had miscarried. He could not see the reasons
why Clergymen should receive the great sums they
did for tidies, while they did nothing. The Roman
Catholic Clergymen deserved the tithes rather than
the Clergy of the Estahli,hed Church—(Hear, hear).
The scenes which now degraded Ireland would be
removed by giving at least some tithes to the latter.
Nothing for nothing ought to be the composition to
those Irish Clergy men s•.-ho did not prove advan-
t ige ius to the people. Ile therefore wished to enter
his prote t against the injustice of the grounds on
which the Bill was founded. 'I he opposition of the
Cergy to the Bill was so selfish, that all the objec-
tions to the Bill ought to be publicly discussed, even
if three weeks were w holly dedicated to it.
Mr.W.SMITII coincided very much in opinion
with the lion. Member for Montrose. The cause of
the great evils which oppressed Ireland was the
wron,, system by which it was regulated.

The lidl was -then ordered to be committed to a
Committee of the whole Ilcuse cn Friday nest.

IRISH MILITIA REDUCTION BILL.

Mr. GOULBURN moved the second reading of'
the Irish Militia Reduction Bill. .

Mr. HUME did net rise to oppose this Bill, for he
approved of the reduction. He ciamplained of the'
tone which pervaded the correspondence of the Mili:
tia Staff Officers, on the subject of the recommenda-
tion of Parliament that they should endeavour to re-
duce their corps. Twelve Colonels had subscribed
their names together to a sort of remonstrance about
the matter—a fact of itself that would be considered
mutiny in the Officers of the regular army. lle was
extremely anxious that the Right lion. Gentleman
would take care, that in this Bill sufficient powers
should be reserved to Government to enable it to re-
duce the whole of the Staffs maintained throughout
the Militia, if the circumstances of Ireland would ad-
mit of it. No part of the military farce of the United
Kingdom had been more useless than the Militia of
Ireland. The lion. Gentleman then took occasion
to complain of the expenses charged for certain Co-
lonels, who, although they had good accomnioda-
tions in barracks, had allowances tor quarters in dif-
ferent parts of the country. He trusted that if the
Right lion. Gentleman did not produce some propo-
sition on this subject, when the Bill got into the Com-
mittee, some other Member would.
Mr. GOULBURN thought the Honourable Gen-
tleman had not taken a very fair view of the subject.
lie had spoken with great severity of the correspon-
dence of the Officers to question; but they made a
complaint to Goveinment (with some appearance,
perhaps, of hastiness, or want of consideration), that
what they had been desired to do in the way of re-
duction they were not legally entitled to effect.
Colonel BARRY and Sir N. Commun. defended
the Irish Militia Colonels.
The Bill was then read, and ordered to be com-
mitted to-morrow.