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PARLIAMENTARI• PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, ICILY 24
Counfel were heard in the cafe of May v. Wharton.
The Militia Pay. Adjutant. and Subaltern Bills. Naval Stores
Bill, lei& Sugar Bounty Bill, and Compaftionate Lift Bill, wire
received from the Commons,and read a Brit time-
The Ina Glebe Honfe Ilia went through a Committee.
The kith Affeffed Tans Penalties Bill was read a third time,
and paired.
Oa the motion of Lord Lauderdale, the fecond reading of the
Office Reverfion Bill was ordered to be poftponed from Monday
to Wednefday next...-Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER acquainted the Houfe, that the petitioners
complaining of an undue Eleetion for the County of Kinrofa, had
neglected to ewer into the reeognizanees required by the Ad, and
therefore the order for the ballot was difcharged.
The Stoke Rcdory Bill was read a third time and paired.
Mr. JENKINSON moved, that the Committee on the Dove►
1 Pilot Bill do make their report on or before Wcdnefday nest. The
delay which had taken place, he Laid, had not been owing to the
witneffes nor to the Committee, but from the inilifpenfthle abfence
of witneffes. An order was made for the Report to be made on or
before Wednefday nest; and silo that the Committee do lit, not-
withftanding any adjournment of the Houk.
The Report of the ctalification Indemnity Bill, and the Exche-
quer Bills' Bill were feverally brought up and agreed to, and the
Bills ordered to be read a third time to morrow.
The Naval Stores Importation Bill, the kith Spirit Regulation
Bill, the !rifts Sugar Bill, and the hies Plate Bill, were feverally
read a third time, and paired.
Ordered, that the Committee on the Weft India Colonial Trade
do report the minutes of evidence taken before them from time to
time.
Mr.ELLIS brought up the Repart from the Weft India Com•
mittee.—.Ordered to be printed
POOLE ELICTION.
Mr. JEFFERY moved, that the Deputy Clerk of the Crswn do
i attend the Houfe on Tuefday next, with the Writ for the late
Eledion for the Town and County of Poole; and alfo that the
Sheriff of Poole do attend on the fame day.—Ordered.
'I he CofLe Warehoufing Bill was ordered to be recommitted to-

morrow.
The Curacoa Free Port Bill went through a Committee, and the
report was ordered to be received tomorrow.
EXPIRING LAWS.
The Expiring Laws Bill was committed ; the Chairman ordered
to report progrefs, and to alt leave to fit agaitt on Monday.
AMaIICAK PRODUCE.

Mr. ROSE moved.that on Monday the Houle would go into a
Committee of the whole Houle, to confider of the propriety of per-
mitting the importation of certain articles, the produce of the Co•
lonics of North America, to the Welt India Wands, and vice verfa

PETITIONS OF PUBLICANS, &e.
Mr. SHERIDAN brought up lowa' petitions from the Publi-
cans, Licenfed PR:Wailers, Sec. of the City of Weft minfter, Ggned
by po perfons, but which might have been fignei by to,ooo, if
thought neceffary, complaining of the powers enjoyed by Magi-
ftratis, relative to lieeniing and withholding licences; which being
feverally read, the Hon. Member moved, that for the prefent they
should lie on the table, and that early in the next week he would
announce to the Houfe the propofition he meant to found on them.
—Ordered to lie on the table.
The Compatlionate Lift Bill was read a third time, and palled.

PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS.
Mr. HUSRISSON gave notice, that he would, on Monday,
move for leave to bring in a Bill for the compelling Public Ac-
countants to pay intcrcft for their balances, and for further regu-
lation of the public accounts. He alfc moved that the Houk
would to-morrow refoive Welt' into a Committee of the whole
Hoare, to confider the propriety of allowing a bounty on cottons,
printed, [tallied, or dyed, exported from this Country to Malta.—
Ordered.
Mr. HOBHOUSE obtained leave to bring in a Bill gratting
feveral duties on cotton yarn and twilt, imported into, or exported
from Great Britain and Ireland.
The Houfe went into a further confidetation of the report on
the Excife Duty Regulation Bill. The Amendments were agreed
to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on Monday.
The Efeheat BiU went through a Committee—the report to•
morrow.
Mr. HUSK ISSON moved an Addrefs to his Majesty, for an
Account of all Sums iffued from the Civil Lift, in eonfequenee of
the Addreffts of that Houfe, and not made good by Parliament.—
Ordered.
The kith Expiring Laws Bill, the Milt Revenue Collettion Bill,
and the Malt Duty Regulation Bill fcverally went through a Com-
mittee, and the reports were ordered to he received to morrow.
'I he Committees of Supply and Ways and Means were poltpo.
tied to Monday.
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IRISH INSURRECTION SILL.
Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY moved the com-
mittal of the Irifh Informs'.lion Bill.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT propofed an amendment
in the claufe enat9ing that a ferjeant or barriller at
law fhould prefide at each of the county meetings for
trying offenders under the Bill. The Houfe divided
—For the amendment 29—Againtl it 53.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT (fated, that grofs abofes,
as he knew from local information, had prevailed in
the fearching of houfes, particularly with refpelt to
females, who had in fome cafes been indecently out-
raged. He walled, therefore, for an amendment in
the claufe refpeding the fearching of houfes after gim-
let. The amendment which he would propofe was,
That the magiftrate thould make out a lift of proper
perfons to be employed for this purpofe, for the ap-
probation of the quarter talons, and that he fhould he
refponAble fcr the good behaviour of fuch perfons in
the difcharge of their duty. If this could not be
adopted, and he forefaw an oblation to it from the 1
chance that perfons fo approved of might not be pre.l
fent at the time they might be wanted—he would
then propofe that the magiffrates fhould be bound in
tht penalty of tool. to fend in the names of the per-
lons employed to the quarter feffions within 48 hours
after they fhould have been engaged in fuch fearch,
that he might, in this way, become in fome refped
refponfible. A flrong check was necefrary on loch a
power as this, and unlefs this amendment, oe fome-
thing equivzlent to it, was adopted, he woulchoppore
the claufe altogether, and divide the Houfe on it.
Sir A. WELLESLEY and the CHANCELLOR
( cf the EXCHEQUER had no objedion to the prin-
ciple of the latter amendment, but waited it lhould
be delayed till the report of the Bill, that they might
have time to confider whether it could be adopted in
confiftency with other necefrary objects.
Mr. CROKER propofed an amendment to the
claufe, fubftituting inftead cf the words " and in cafe
of refufal to enter by force," the following words,
46 and in cafe admittance (hall be refaced ten minutes
after being demanded, then fuch magiftrates and their
officers, bailiffs, &c. (hall be allowed to break into
Paid dwelling by force."
Colonel VEREKER difapproved of the words,
" ten minutes;" he thought fuch amendments would
would go to flitter away the Bill altogether.
' Sir S. ROMILLY was allonilhed, that in the cafe
of In ferious a nature as forcible entry into the houfe
of the King's fubjeds, a provifion to give that fubjed
a realonable time to provide apinft that forcible entry
' I by voluntarily admitting the officer, thould be termed
I by any Gentleman in thatHoufe an aticinpt to fritter
away the Bill. It was a claufe not fo' much of re-
.' laxation as of common juflice.
Colonel VEREKER explained,. and raid, that
there was another oblation to fuch pletille mention
i of the time, that uolefs there was moonlight, or that

" Providedy ral.wayo:,
Ibe it further enafted, That when a e dift ,
tsre bailiffs had lights and watches, it could not be On the following
afcertained. the plai.ttiff in any ration to be bro
Colonel BARRY faid, that another objeainn wart gives for_
caufe,
juice of the peace, peace officer,
that' the majority of Inch officers were not individne egainfl any . . ._ .
other pet fun, for taking or imprifoning, or detail
ally worth a watch. .
on or for feizing arms, or entering h
' •
Dr. LAWRENCE ridiculed fuch objeatens. and. any Pell r
under colour of any authority given by this At
contended that the "tea minutes" Ihould be diftinelly
lit fh ill appear to the jadge or Judges before
fpecified. ,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER i the fame Iliale be tried, that there was a pr
doing the aft complained of in fuch
had no objedion to the Amendment, provided the I cattle for
words " a reafonable time" were put for the words and the C *hall e th f
Judge or (hur play the
theme
all 1
"hen minutes," for if an entire village was to be I cord, then and in that ceheunt
fearched, ten minutes waiting at the door of every entitled to more than 6.1. Demages, nor to an;
houfe in thatvillage would be an uneonfcionablelength of fuit."
of time; he propofed, therefore. the fuleftitution of Mr. BRAND moved that the whole Ciao
the words " a reafonable time." omitted, as grofsly uniun and unconftitution,
Mr. CROKER acquiefced in the fubtlitution pro- The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEt
admitted that the Classic was not one which le
poled by the Right Honourable Gentleman.
Mr. WH I'l-BREAD and Sir JOHN NEWPORT have wiffied to fee introduced, but when the
commented forcibly on the vaguenefs of the terms fay of the cafe was confidered—When it we
fugge lied by the Chancellor of the Exchequer; and ex- i lofted that the (late of Ireland required th,
preffed their Cuprite that the Honourable Gentleman 1 ultfome and difagreeable duties fhould be inpot
with whom the amendment had originated, could I the Magiftrates, which they would be ur.wi
be Co readily induced to give up the principal point Perform, and which, in fee, it would be dal
in it. I for them to perform with the zeal and fidelity
Mr. LAING inflanced the definite time exprefslyled, unlefs they were protefted from the effeCt
limited in the riot aft, and thought the prefent cafe I intention, errors into which, from appearant
as more deeply involving the rights of the fubjea, I might be led-=when, in fhort it was confider
the difperfion of a lawlefe mob by force of the very Jurors in fuch aCtions of damages might be
arms ; he thought the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. I perform ageinft whom it had been neceffat a fur them .
Croker) had been indeed hafty in giving way to cer- i to exercife the Enaaments of this Aft, and whole
rain authority. 1 minds might, on that account, be inflamed againft
Mr. CROKER faidin juftification of himfelf, that ! them ; when all thefe things were confideted, it was
he was but a young Member of Parliament, and that I the opinion of thofe bell acquainted with the (late of
it was natural for him to bow to authority ; befides, i Ireland, that the Ad mull he imperfealy executed,
he thought that the Right Hon. Baronet over the unlefs the Magiftratea were fecured by a Claufe like
way approved of the words " a reafonable time.o— the prefent.
[Here Sir J. Newport exprefsly fignified his difTent] Sir A. PICOT was decidedly of opinion, that the
—However, he was himfelf inclined to think the final Provifinn now objefted to, would be a difgrace to
words" ten minutes," better than thofe lag propofed, the flatute book. Were they, by this moll extraor.
though he fltould not with to divide the Committee dinary bill, to give extraordinary powers to Magil-
-1 upon them. crates, and then, after they had exceeded even the
Mr. GRATTAN laid, that the Committee were Poweregiven them, to ponce them from the vetclia
;bout to Wren an extraordinary power fomewhere. of a Jury ? If the Right Hon. Gentleman was afraid
It ought therefore to be done with caution, but who that the perfons aggrieved might obtain a verdift
were the perfons to be invefted with the power ? per- while the country was in a (late of irritation, why
haps Come lawlefs mifereant, Come vagabond, or pet- limit the time for feeking redrefe to fix months ? If
haps the difcretion of their so reafonable time," was again he was afraid of the infl immable (late of the
to be lodged in the bofom of any convenient menial, Jinn& minds, and that they might even have been
fume pstillion, coachman, ho her, or ploughboy, parties in the fuppofed tranfgreffion, the remedy was
who under the fanaion of the law was to judge ;gain and eary—to change the venue to a more dillant
when it would be a reafonahle time for him to rufb county, where no diffatisfaCtion or irritation of feel.
into the apartment of a female, while the was hal- inns had prevailed. It had been raid, that a fimilar
tilt' throwing on.her clother, to open the door to this Aft had been intended to be propofed by the late
midnight editor ; this would give a wound that Miniftry. He would only fay for one, that be had
would be felt long ; it would throw a general odium never been confulted on, nor heard of fuch an inten.
about the Bill. If the charafter of the Bill would be lion, nor had he ever feen the prefent bill till yeller.
faved, any thing admitting the potlibility of fuch day. If the (fate of Ireland was loch as the Right
abufe fhould be facrificed to it. Honourable Gentleman reprefeuted, and that a Jury
Mr. JOHN CLAUDIUS BERESFORD faid, could not be lied there whole minds were not in an
that a lit-anger who had heard the tall twenty mi- inflammatory Rate, why not take away the Trial by
flutes converfation would be apt to fuppofe that the Jury entirely, at lean fulpend it, till the feelings of
Irith Magiftrates had a general propenfity to break the people were reitored to a greater degree of calm.
open doors and hurt into ladies' bed chambers.— nets and compofurc ? It was a mockery to continue
He vindicated the frith Magiftracy, and faid that he the Taal by Jury, and yet to deprive an injured per.
did not (peak there as a party man, but as an Irith- fon of the effect of a verdie after it had been given
man. in his favour. It was laid, that the Judges of Ireland
Mr. ABERCROMBIE was convinced from what were fair, impartial, and upright. He fhould be
came within his own knowledge of the neceflity of lorry to doubt it. He believed, that they in common
great caution in the cafe row before the Committee. with Judges of this part of the kingdom, with whom
He thought it much better to have the time after- he was more intimately acquainted, poffeffed every
tained by law. honoutable and upright feeling and quality. But
.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL thought that the this was a power not to be eintrilled to any man. It
Committee was arguing wide of the cafe in point.— was filch a power as the law had teltifed to any Judge
The quettion was not about the principle of forcible or any let of Judges whatever.
entry, thet was agreed to ; the right ef the domi- The ATTORNEY GENERAL contended, that
ciliary vifit was admitted upon all power, and the the enactment now objefted to, was not fo novel as
quettion limply was, whether " a reafonable time" the Honourable and Le trued Baronet had fuppofed.
were words better fitted for the purpnfe bed in view He confeffed that Plaintiffs in the fituation alluded
than the wards "ten minutes"—he for his par; to were to be deprived of the benefit of the Common
thought they were, and put different cafes, each of Law—but was not this already the cafe in all rave-
which he theught bore him out in his opinion ; borne flue queltions ? Where an officer of the revenue was
of thofe cafes might not be thought very probable— Cued, nothing but the dry damage fuftained by the
bur, finely, any of them were more probable than injured party was awarded againft him. Where it
that put by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Gran was a queftion of' intention in revenue cafes, and no
tan), of the lady or the female in her bed chamber. intention could be (hewn, the Plaintiff could not re.
He did not, he conleffed, feel Co nicely on the fubjea cover—and it had been determined, in the cafe of
as that Right Hon. Gentleman. Sutton and Jehnflon, that the queltion of " probe.
Mr. GRATTAN faid, that the Learned Gentle- We caufe" was a queltion for the Judge. There the
man had told the Committee what it ought to argue
Defendant would have an acquittal, and of comic
1 upon, and what it ought not to argue upon. It was
his cons from the Plaintiff ; here the Plaintiff was
good in that Learned Gentleman to give the Com.
to have a nominal verdia, even although the Judge
I mittee the aid of his infiruaion ; but is the Gentle- was c f opinion that the probable caufe was with the
' man (faid Mr. Grattan) quite lure of being Wrath. Defendant. The duties which Magifirates would
altogether right ? In the firs place, all the other have to perform in the prefent (fate of Ireland, were
quettions are not wholly gone by ; for I may agree of a molt invidious nature, and he thought that this
to the claufe or its modification, or rejea both, and was not too great an indemnity to allow them in the
afterwards agree to or diffent from the principle of difcharge of (itch dutier.
the 13111 itfelf. Again, has the learned Gentleman Mr. BOYLE (Solicitor General for Scotland)
been right in his Ilatement of the quettion ? He has contended, that the Honourable and Learned Baronet
argued on the propriety of veiling the Magiftrate (Sir A. Pigot) had gone too far in treating the pro.
with the difcretion of judging of the as time reafon. poled refolution as In great a nr,velty, and as fo
able ;" but this is not the queltion. It is, whether grievous an infringement of the law and Conairution
you veil any commiffioned ruffian with that difcre- of this country. If the Hon. urable and Learned
tinn ? Here then the Learned Gentleman initiated Baronet had confulted the Ste u e Bank, he wr old
what he was to argue upon ; and then did he even have found that fimilar refolutious as to Ireland had
argue fairly on that millatement ?—No ; for he takes been pafl'ed repeatedly before this time, nay that at
that as impoffible which I myfelf have known to have this moment fuch formed a part of the law of the
taken place—(Hear, bear !)—He fays, fuch ruffians land. If the Honourable and Learned Baronet had
as I defcribe could never have been officially em• found the enaftment in queltion Co very obnexieus,
ployed; and have made their office the pretence of why did he not come for ward in his official lima i n,
wanton outrage—but I have known fuch ruffians to when he was Attorney General, and move that it
have been employed, and (Itch outrages to have been be expunged from the Statute Book. He bed no
committed—(Hear,
other fez has been grofsly obtruded on and wantonly office, agreed with his filen& in ore Minillty .0
infulted : this was no light matter—there was more thinking the claufe in dif use errenter • ! to the well
He (
in that fentiment than a joke could do away—the being of Ireland. VIP rr. Boyle) rerolleeted bin
honour of a female in any clefs—it was wrong to in the Houk on the evening when the preterit Bill
make it the (*Ojai of •parliamentary jocularity. was introduced, and he remembered perfectly well,
Dr. LAWRENCE and Sir S. RQMILLY fol. that Gentlemen on every fide agreed in the nereflity
lowed on the fame fide, both Gentlemen Rating that of the meafure, except one i lenoitrable Gentleman,
their Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Grattan) had put the whom he now taw in '
his
place, (Mr. Sheridan). who
quettion in its true light. It was not *livening the declared, he had no doubt molt v•nfcienciouily Isis
blia •1 gi trate, but h y rteye.is menial Bailiff, with a dangerous refolution to oppole the Bill in ever '
difcretion. Mr. WHI MEAD declared. that he had not turd a legal a
The ATTORNEY GENERAL replied to Dr. rilftitutional fentiment uttered on the luhjedt. except w ,at had
having propofed the all
A laugh
from Wn M s Hoourable end b• hind bin' (Sir 9 Hrtt) .-
Lawrence, and Mr. Lain
Amendment in its original orm, Mr. Croker faid, Lan a:a gl:oo the M inifterial file of the Houle ] 11, Aire 1 Arm
bra opinion. He had indeed heard f,mething like an a-
dmit as he had not withdrawn his Amendment, t
h e , mix at a legal defence of the meafur -, 11 fhtwing that limb
fhould not give 'it up. ' . makes alfo prevail-d in revenue queninno But would chat au-
The Committee then divided. For the "ten mi- der the power more agreeable to law or to the c. ottotutioo ? Was
flutes," 30 ;for " a reafonatele time," —M ii
not
known
and
acknowledged, that our Revenue Laws were
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Many other dances were gone through, and after 'lndic I°of
at n the prefent mr lure. Ihe nett airy of the He
each undergoing a prettj lon cll. ffi g icu on, leveret venue Laws weinult all be aware of as a greatr,ve..u, could not
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The Gentlemen connecfted wit,* Irdeied bill eirneftly aid Pic'
focally to folicit the aid of the Irlilt people, ought to ufe ever,
means in their power to *circulate in that country the fundamental
maxim of Erllith Policy, to have nothing to do with France.—
The Right Honourable Gentleman repeated his refoiution to vote
for the Bill. notwithitanding the odium that attached to it-;-rather
than give up the Stati he would fupport the Bill. He ocher had,
.he never would, capitulate with any poplalar errorilthough he
always refpedied popularity when attendant on virtue. The Right
.Honourable Gentleman was frequently interrupted by the linani-
MOUf plaudits of the Committee.
Mr. J. C. BERESFORO congratulated the Houfe, the Country,
and the Right Honourable Gentleman, on the fentiments which
be had juft uttered, and which he hoped and united would have
a due impreftion in Ireland.

Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Boyk) bad, however, tinted the
orowifion as part of the editing Law of this emintry, and had
aria, wily if fo obnoxious to his Honourable and Learned Friend
(Sir A. Pigott) he had not moved to have it expunged from the
Stettin Bonk ? A provifion to the fame effeet he (Mr. Whitbread)
admitted, did make part of a Statute of the Parliament of Ireland,
which would expire on the aft of Auguft. It would have been too
owelobowevcr, he furpeded for his Learned Friend to have come
forward here. and moved to have that enactment expunged. At all
events an enadment of the kith Parliament, could not ad as a pre-
cedent for that Hosfe,or affard any fuch argument for now adopting
itos if they had been re-enacting a former legiflative meafure of their •
own• 1 might be a general conviction of the neceffity of the pre-
fent Ad, and yet the clogging it with one claufe fimilar to that now
objected to, might render it fo unpala•able that many Gentlemen
who, like himfelf, were not otherwife unfriendly to the mrafuee,
might rather with to fee Ireland take its chance than thus refin.
quills one of the deareß and molt valuable rights. It was. hardly
poffible. but that in the execution of fuels an aft as the prefent,
innocent perfons tbould Cutter wrong. Their country, however,
would Rill be naturally dear to them, and they would cheer them-
(elves with the hope that they had (till a remedy kft—that they
had (till a Jury to protect them and to redrefs the wrongs they had
fuftaincd. It the claufe now nOjeded to, however, thould pafs,
they could have no fuch confil.tion. They might appeal to a
Jury --a Jury might give them redrefs—bur they might then find
the Judge interpo.e, and deprive them of that recompe race for their
wrongs to which they were jultly entitled. He would ;A, could
a man in this fituation have the fame feelings towards his country
as if uo lush claufe had found its way into the prefent Bill?
Colonel V ER EKER declared bitufelf strongly favourable to the
principle of the Bill, which he thought was in danger of being frk-
tared away altogether
Cr JOHN NhWPORT related two cafes in which the precipi-
tancy of the Magiftrates hal been the ruin of two worthy indivi•
duals; the one. that of a Merchant, who was taken up on fufpicion,
tocooel bail was offered for his appearance at the neceffary time;
this was refit. ed, the man's bufinefs was ruined for want of his own
rat:site to condudt it, and be became a bankrupt. lie afterwards
went out to America: be carried with him the difeafe of the mind,
which had thus beer, occaftoned, became melancholy, his kirks
were deranged, and he made an attersipt upon his life. • Another
perfon was apprehended in the County of tipp:rary, bccaufe he
was guilty of having a piece of French manufeript in his pocket,
and, by order of the Sheriff he was flogged, becaufe the Sheriff in
his extreme loyal zeal, concluded that the manuscript mutt be fe-
ditioos, or it would not have been written in French, a language
which he did not underftand. He therstore entreated Gentlemen
to look a little at the other fide; to feel a little for the injured indi-
vidual as well as for Vie erring Magiftrate.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL obferved, that if this claufe were
omitted, all the preceding claufes might be cancelled 31'0.
Mr WINDHA M always confidered the principle of the Re•
venue Laws a very deplorable departure from the general princi-
ples of Briti& Legiflation, and could not readily be induced to
think that we ought to adopt what mutt be in fume inn:owes an
unjuft exception, inftead of what was an acknowledged, jutt, and
liberal eftablifhed rule. The cafe of Sutton and Johultune was a
fingolar exception. not extremely worthy of imitation.
General LOFTUS (poke, from his own experience, in fupport
of the claufe.
Lord H. PETTY declared, that in every principle of juftice,
we were bound to adminifter relief to the injured individual, even
though it fhoult not be done at the eapence of the Magiltrate.
Lord MIL EON reprobated fevercly the injuftice of the mea
lure, as a matter of policy even it was to be considered, that fuch a
meafure would naturally irritate men's minds; when they felt
that they had fuffered damage, when they appealed to a Court of '
kiftics, and e Jury awarded them fome compenfation in damages,
and yet it was not in the power of the Jury to extend to the indi-
vidual that ital.:et to which they knew he was entitled. When
be law the verdict of the Jury fuperceded by the decifitin of the
Judge, was that a way to reconcile the feelings of Irithmen—was
that a way to bind Ireland by friendly attachment to this country?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER maintained that
the deciflon would be ftrengthencd, the it.tereft of individuals
would be better Cecured by the opinion of the Judge and Jury bring
both made public. He contended that the cafes to which Gentle-
mien alluded appeared to 'ae what the law termed danorentiCae is I-
juria, and private Intereft mult give way to public good.
Mr. V INDH AM Paid that if the Magiltrate was fuppofed to
be innocent that is with refped to the cue ashes with which he
acted, and yet it was ken that an individual ruftered materially,
Government or the country fhould reimburfe the fufferer.
Mr MORRIS laid that if the vertlid of a jury was fuppofed
to be erroneoue, the Conftitution bad prsvidcd a h•gal mode of re•
drefs to the party who fuppofed himfelf aggrieved, as he might
move for a new trial, then for a fecood, and fo on to a third; and,
if three juries of the country were agreed as to the fame chki point,
however highly he refpcdted the charadter and general condudt of
the Judges in England arid in Ireland. be mutt fay, that lie thould
think the verdict of three diftindi Juries infinitely preferable to
that of any individual who might oppufe their decition, however THE EXPEDITION.
highly venerable that individual might bt in other refpeds. Yellerday the following (hips joined the Baltic ex
The Committee divided upon this Claufe, and the numbers were
...For the original Claufeos ; for the Amendment, 28.—Nlajo- pcdition at Yarmouth, viz.
Tito. 47• Hiscuts • 74 - AGINCOVRT - 64
Upon the period of two years and to the end of the next en-
TRON ttttt 74
feting Seffions of Parliament, Lang propofed for the duration of
the Ad, FRANCIUM HUSSAR, Svelter, and 144111.0 Frigates.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT role, and deprecated fuch a period, as Amt. and Comma Sloops, and Fort WA O.D Gan-brig.
it implied the contemplation of a neceffity which might ceafe long Admiral Gib( BIER'S lag %Vela hoilled yeiterday on
before Parliament was in the habit of annually confides:log the
'Mutiny Bill and the rcafons which induced that habit pleaded board the ?attics or WALES, of 98 guns, under a
with Rill ftrong r force for the annual coafideration of a meafure falute.
gi this nature, which would go to put Ireland out of the pale of the
Troops are in motion in every qnatter for the
Contlitution. What, he would apt, would Gentlemen fay if it
were propofed for fueb, or indeed for any period, to put England in Grand Expedition. We believe the lilt of Cavalry
tads a fituation.
Colonel VER EK ER was an advocate for the claufe, as was Regiments, which we gave in former STARS, was per.
General PHIPPS, who Rated, that if England were in loch a leafy corred. In addition to the Infantry Regiments
!late as that of Ireland, or likely to be fo,be believed that no Eng.
hill Gentleman would be found to oppoic the adoption of a nica• mentioned inThurfday'sST AR. General M.FA aLA N k's
fore fimilar to the prefent brigade goes ;it compiles the Bth, 9111, and another
Mr. WINDHAM thought that Chartering the duration of the 1
Bill would be a fort of pledge to the frith people of the reluctance regiment.
with which Parliament impofed fuch an act "pmt them, while its In addition to the correa lift of the Staff Errmetly
prefent extended duration would directly indicate an indifference i
upon the fubjedt. For although the nceeffity for the Bill were g
ven, there have lately been appointed—
now fully evident, (till no man could prefume that the period ob• Licut. Gen. the Earl of ROISLYN, to command the Foreign Troops.
julled to might not long furvive that neeeffity. Major General Jonte Muitano.
The CHANCLI.LOR of the EXCHEQUER was decidedly
of opinion that the claufe ought to pals in its prefent Rage, becaufe Brigadier General litaitsroeo.
there was no probability that the neceflity which called for the .--------- M'VA RLAN a.
Bill would fo loon ceafe; and alfo bccaufe it was defirable to pre- Deputy Quarter Matter General Captain lILLLINGOR.
vent the agitation of a queftion of this nature fo often as the Right Medical Staff—Mr. Deputy Wass anal Dr. MORRIS,
Honourable Baronet profeffed to with, left fueh agitation might
tend to aggravate the evil which the Rill was meant to cure. Staff Surgeons—NoaTu and CAR PUE•
Mr. GRATTAN rote at nearly three o'clock, and delivered a Sixteen Apothecaries and twenty Hofpital Mates.
molt energetic and impreflive fpeech. The Right Honourable Sir DAVID BAIRD immediately fails with the Bikini
Gentleman began by deprecating the doctrine, that the exiftence troops, which he is to command under Lord Cart.-
of a power, if that power were not called into action, was not to
be confidered as a grievance. What, he would afk, was flavery ? otter, the Commander in Chief.
. Nothing but fufferance. Great odium, be knew, attached in Ire- Colonel MURRAY, and the red of the Baitifh.Staff,.
land to the treelike, tinder the confidential of the Committee.—
A variety of fetters from that country, many of which he had will immediately embark.
himfelf received, fully Caddied him of this point. But Rill, front Lieutenant General Sir GIORGI J. LUDLOW was
a confideration of the sieceeity of the cafe, he was ready to take
his full (hare of thatodium by fuppot dog the Bill. This wee a time called up to town from Canterbury, on Thurfday,
in which every man thould be prepared to facrifice, not only fume by an curds, which reached him early in the
portion of his liberty, but of his popularity, and he was ready to
make lonic facrifiee of both for the good of the State. Ile under- morning. Sir GeORGn, it is undertiood, is to have
good from hi; Right Honourable Frionl betide him —(we con• a high command in the Expedition—fomef he
Ay is
ceivrd the attain' to be to Mr. Elliot), that there were (lord
mettle -s of a dark and stangerous defetiption hi Ireland. This to be fecond in command.
formed. a ground fur the Bill. He was afraid of a French The Brigade of Guards at Chatham embarks in
inter& in Ireland, and he wiled dot Governmett thould be
fur:Milled with the means not merely of ratting, but of ex. two divifions. This day one of them was to embark;
'hewing that intereft wherever and whenever it appeared. With r the other embarks to morrow.
that view la, would fupport this Bill, even though the claufe
Gould not experience the alteration he willies!. Although he The order for the embarkation of the sth batta-
feared that if this deuce Mould continue unchanged, it might ag- lion of the Goth regiment has been countermanded ;
gravate the difcontents the Bill propofed to dettroy ; that from the
uulifferensc it would betray as to the communication of Britith and the ad battalion of the 52d light infantry, from
privileges to the frith people, it fellatio with that people, become Hythe, is to [apply its place.
a mere queition, which to prefer, the Military Government of •
France, or the (*ended Confticution of England. The queition The artillery defined for the expedition will cm-
in Ireland now had nothing to do with Republicanifm ; hut was lift of four companies—two from Woolwich, one
Imply this, whether the fhould continue a portion of the 13ritifit
Empire, or become not a portion of trance; but nothing—abfo. from Chatham, and the other from Hythe. The
lately nothing—at lint the might coquet with France; but it latter is on its march for Nortlifi-et where the four
• would end in a meretricious connetion. The Right Hon. Gen-
tleman s
eatneftly exhorted the Irifh Gentlemen, as they canvafled companies are to be embarked.
their countrymen for feats in that Houle, to canvafs them alto Two hundred hones, with drivers in proportion,
for the Bridal Empire agalnft the dcfigns of France. Nations,
like individuals, %vat often the arbiters of their own fate, and have alfo marched from the artillery depot in Can-
't:lc:: might be dcre for tille country in irclued it fo e!etc:'nirc i.I tee bury for the fame delinatian.

General Lovrus concurred in this congratulation.
Lord HOW ICK deprecated the idea, that any ohjedion offered
by Itimfetf and his friends to the details of this meafure, proceeded
from a difpolltion to oppofe the principle bf the meafure Well'. On
the contrary, he was anxious to fupport the Bill, with regard to
the neceffity for which no change whatever had taken place in his
fetitiments fince his retirement from office. But as to the Bill it-
&lf, he &elated, that although a draft of it had been fent to him
from Ireland, jolt previous to the change of Adminiftration, be
never read it, until lately introduced by the Right Honourable
Baronet.
After a few woe's from the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER, the Committee divided
For the original chute, 68 t—Againft it, 21.
The Houfe rerumed, and the Report was ordered to be brought
up this day.
Sir A. WELLESLEY gave notice of motions for this day, for
leave to bring in two Bills refpeding the kith Militia of the fame
nature as thole brought in by Lord Caltiereagh, with regard to
the Militia of this country.
Adjourned at four o'clock this morning (Saturday.)