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',rlaims-of the ROO= Cad*Bel, bet the Peatlileffbilet
the people of England certainly ought in lib aphimeto
have great weight with•the House. If, Ante the face
Hof those Petitions and the Bill itself he was smiled con-
cettions could not be made• it was his duty to rate hit
opinion. His Honourable Friend said it was denied by
Dr. D yle, that the POpe had power to ercommunicate in
the exercise of temporal power. It was not the first time
the same thiiig had been denied. Mr. Rtt., in taking
the urinions of the Universities, obtained the same de-
nial. Had his Honourable Friend been opposing the
Roman Cahill: Claims twenty years without knowing
that ? It !.i; Honourable Friend had wished to be con-
vinced on the subject, why did he not turn co the evi-
dence of former times? His Honouml le Friend had
said, he should vote for the second reading. and oppose.
.the Bill on the third reading, if it did not answer his
expectation. This he considered an extraordinary mode
of proceeding. The Right HonouiableS!cretary added
that it,s moJe of proceeding would be to oppose the
second leading of the Bill, without reference to any
etabsequent stage. His Right Honourable Friend had
'considered the Petitions replete with theological dis-
cussion, which might have been omitted. He mold
not concur in that objection. Two clauses of the Bill
refened to the maintenance of the doctrine and disci-
pline of the Church cif England, and a distinct notice
had been given of the doctrines of the Roman Catholic
Church. All the points of doctrine of the Church of
England were wise found in the articles of the Church,
and it was very natural that the Petitioners, especially
the Clergy, should resort to theological discussion..--
The Articles of the Church of England were funda-
mentally at variance with the Catholic Church. The
Church of England was the Religion of the &ate, and
at it. wareompulsoty upon the Ministers of that Church
to subscribe to those Articles, how could they find fault
with them for adhering to the spirit of them in their
*Petitions to the House? This led him to the Preamble
Of the Bill,•Which set out the inviolability of the Prot.-
testant Church : " Whereas the Protestant Succession
Ito the Imperial Crown of the United Kingdom Indite
Dependencies, is, by the' Act for the funker limitation
of the Crown and the better securing the liberties of
the subject, established permanently and inviolably t
And whereas. the Protestant Episcopal Church of Eng-
land and Ireland, and• the doctrine, discipline, and go-
vernment thereof, &c. established permanently and in.
violably." He confessed it did strike him that,
there was something ominous in this prominent ten,
derness for the Protestant Church and Ascendancy
*id chit place, in it Bill which was proposing to sub.'
;reit those hiffiers ihith had hitherto been deemed
nefeisiry iafegisards to that aicendariey. It should
'be remembered that when Macbeth was to meet the
iistimbled guest* at the banquet, he expressed the
.greatest atinietY -abbot the absent Baigito, and it
ihad been feeniiked that this peculiar concern foe the
victim arils Murderous design; betrayed the compunc-
tious visitingl of hid mind: Now he could not help
thinkitilt that thirovei' regard for the " Imperial Crown
!if At' T;lnitestririgdodr and" the Protestant Church'
of Eogland." somewhat resembled the anxiety of
Macietk for Btropro.-4t war a touch of name which
kisr dewed to' 'hew the danger of • their situations
nod' fie cotiftf not but feat that ill was not safe—(Hear',
Aear),--The next object of the gill was to get rid of
the Oath of Supremacy ; and the meaning of this, if it
,hod any Seining was, to enable the King to take
Ratan. Cillitifi
csinto' his Councils. The King, ho*a
ofitiged do take an oath against tran-
substantiation, and this was thought to be sufficient sa
.curity for the permanency and inviolability of the Pro-
trtant succesaion. Bot how was this regarded by our
'arneestoeo--what mid the Bill of Rights? It did not
thwßitio codseitar but that certain Conatillorsr
Meet's; and Judgeil Of the' King conspired to reheat
the laWs and liberties of the country--(Hear, hear)—!
He' did believe thee the late King had great persosial
weight tepoik this quitsflint—.4lkar,keesit—But suppose' •
after he had Taken the oath against transub-
sianuaticio, Were to revolve the subject in his mind,
and arrive at a different conclusion with regard to his
'religion* belief, what would be the consequence?
If then did were ao, 4. a King and Queen, after their
accession to the Throne, With the facilities which this
Bil'Cwouldafford, mere to be at liberty to change their
religious creed, the peace and tranquillity of the country
would henceforth rest upon the mind of one individeat
• 46ikerij. The removal of a Cathol e King Irons the
'throne' *ould be the work of n civil convulsion, as if
was in. the time of James the Second, and in the sane
way **the suspicion of the Monet ch led to the takin
secutitki in' the time of Charles the Second. It would
nef be fait to say that these wete visionary spe.cul
,tions,
When tie Measure whisk they were discussing went to
toecit the fundamental principles of the C
(lie*, hew". His Hen. Friend the Member for Plymp,
ton (Mt. NOtthYttild them they were not t • he seArehing
for danger, in the clouds fay the aid of telescopes, *hen
danger existed under their feet. Bat he (Mr. S cietary
Feel) would tell his Hon. Friend, that, it they were to
descry in the cloudy a black spotr although not bigger
than vier hand, they were bound to look to the c• nee*
plantar of *overcasting the firmament, with the same
caution as their forefathers had exercised for their be.
nefit—( Nair). The question was not now wi e her they
were to have a religion favoured by the State. If they
here diectisiing the political settlement of the country, as
to whether it should be Republican or Monarchical, the
qoestion might Very well Min whether they should
have a religion favoured by the' State or net, as wet
the case in America. Bet their case was different—
WO found themselves already in a settled Monarchy,
proteking against Catholic interference. It was, there+
fore, to be obseritd, that such Was their tituatiees
that Reece, and the Misters and followers of the
Church of Rome, Must consider their Protestant
Religion al the usurping religion. It was impose
sible the Catholics. could think otherwise, and while
they did so think, it would surely be dangerous' t 6
adant theta to a share in the Legislature—(HeeV,
hear). It was better tOettlude them at once, than ad-
mit theist upon conditions, and such was the practice of
the Constitution. When they had dilqualified Officers of
the Revenue and the Clergy, from sitting in that House,
did they offer to admit them upon the condition of their
,
distiaiming the imputations against
tthakiemn? a
longorti oath,
inding.themselves to vote with minds free
from any undue mill:ewer He wished to speak With
eft e most
aspe offteci resPect
inconsistent.
oftheviCiaththothliacst,iftzindg to su
idhesee
that ip.
pose that a Catheho should very conscientiously feel
'wal
boitile to floe Pritestant Establishment. No one could
feel Surprised to find i conscientions Roman Catholic
adopting the Opinions. of Mr. Butler epos this ditch
jeer, whir ;belated in his writings that las benefit bet
much evil had floated to this country from the RffiP
illation. And seeisldit be sefe to admit. person* weft


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