Star.
London, England, 1805-02-09 00:00:00

HOUSE Of COMMONS.

Mr. HI,In AM, from the Control(linueri of the igational Debt,
peek:act: the annual accounts of that Bum J. which were ordered
to lie on the Table for the perufal of the Members.
Mr. Rose prefentcd an Eftiniate of the fume wanted to defray
the extraordinary expencet of :he new Ceinage.
Mr. I Ie!.KISION Erre notice,That he would IWIOVC in the Com-
mittee of Supply on Wribiefday next, the Eltintateot the Expetne
of Coinne to he ft:ten into conh,t:ration.
The SKCIIC PART at W AR brought in the Metiny and Defertion
Bill, which was read a fiat time, aed ordered to be read a lecond
time Or Monday next.
The Sect:Ai-Aar at WAa gave notice. Taal in a future Rage of
this Bill he intended to move for a ClaUrc rofpcdßino the parrage of
litotes, which he meant to be free from toil.
Mr. Rost brow* up the Whale Fithery Bill, wllich was read a
BrR and ordered to he read a fecond time on Monday next
I'lle CZtarantine Rezulat ion Bill war read a feeond time, and or-
dered to be coin:bitted ou Monday next.
The T:tree Miiliuus Exchequer Bill; Bill was read a third time,
a: d
Mr. A ezlitNcixa brought up the Report rf the Loyalty Loan
Cominittx of yefierday. Tht Refolutions were read a firß and
ad time, mil leave given tobring in Bills accordingly.

Sir jrrEN NDIR SON prefented a Petition ELM the partners
ir. the huufe of Chair.:crs and Co. Rating, that in cor.f.:quence of
ar7.l:l;rt. malts made by order of Govcrunient, thsy had fuftained
a t t of ly fpiculations on herrings for the fupply of the
M'sit lodul market, and praying furl edict as the Houk Mould
teLot meet.

ktr.:•.PEAKER ohferving, that this Petition %Vac in the nature
of a e.ti fcr public :rionay, wilted to know ii it had the concur-
r,:rce of Majefty's Chancellor of tie Exchequer?
The CHANCEL! Ult of the FXCHI.QUER. laid, he fhould
not oprfe the bringing up of the Petition ; but he defired by no
means to he coniudeted as thereby pledging himfelf to any opinion
on the ni,ject
Petition received, and referred to a Committee.
ilk. WINDHAM'S MOTION.

Mr. WINDHAM, in cnniequence of what had
palcd yeller Jay, found it necelfary again to podpone
his motion. He wilted the liotife, however, to re-
mark, that this was the tirtt inflauce of his motion
being deferred on his own account, as the formtr
polipanernents, however numeiou., had been to ac-
c Immodaie others. He fixed it for Thurlddy fen-
sught.

Tae CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
laid, he (hould have been extremely happy to have
accommodated the Right Hon. Gentleman, but was
any.inus to have the Budget fubmitted to the Bottle
witliout any farther delay. The Mieleßeres Eletlion,
he obferved, 'food for Tuefday, and there might be
a &bate on it, and as the Monday would be fully
occupied, he foggened the propriety of deterring
that Order till Thutfday, as that day was now open
by the poflponement of the Right Hon. Gentleman's
mo:ion.—The Order being therefore read, it was ac-
cordingly difeharged, and fixed for Thurfday next.

SLAVE TILDE.

Sir W. YOUNG role to fubmit to the Route feve-
ral Motions ref-peeing the Weft India Trade. His
W'n. Friend had given notice of his intanded motion
for the Abolition of the Slave Trade. With this
important quellion the Hon. Baronet thought the ir-
tetefi s of the Weft India Trade were clofely connec-
ted. Previous, therefore, to the difeuffion of that
toeflion, it was his with to have certain accounts
fubmi:ted to the Houfe, that would (hew the (late
of our Trade with the Weft Indies, and what we had
either to hope or fear from a meafure that would af-
feet them fo nearly.. He amid have been glad if
any other Hon. Member more converfant in the fob-
jet than he was had anticipated him in the propoll•
tour; he was going to fubmir ; but rather than not
lave the advantage of the information it was his in-
tention to move for, he had taken the duty on him-
(elf; and as the difcuflion of his Hon. Friend's motion
was fixed for fo early a day, he had, for the fame
reafon, brought forward his propoutions without the
forma!i.v of any previous notice.
The Hon. Baronet then moved— _

017IIat then: he laid before the Houk an Account of the
Quantity of Raw Sugar imported imo this Country from the
%Veit Irdi?a, :nu: of the quantity of Raw or }termed Sugars et-
porte iro:a country, vri.h the duties and drawbatits on the
fame. for the Lit three years, up to stet of January 18os."
" 't hat axle Dc bemre the Houfe au Account of the quan-
tity of Rum imported to enix country and exported from it, with
the euties and dra::•backs :Litre Jti, for the fame pet i. 4."
" 'That there hz tittl bet -we :he l-lcufe an Accoolit of the quan-
tity of ?Mil Manutadures exported from this coulitry to the
Bu lib Settlements in the Wcf Indies, from the Sth of January,
3804, to tit sth of pittary, tBt^,j."
A. ::no an Arcount of the Bririth Ships that have been em-
ployed in :be Import nod Export to and from the Bridal Weft-
inantations for the tame pt..ind.—Ordettd.

1r.1414 AFFAIr.:,.

Mr. TA Ml 3 FITZGER A LD role and raid, that
in confe-1.1; ace of a late c!etrrn;nation of the Cann
of King's Benc:i i Irdantl, uit!l relpe& to the con-
Artiair.ii of an Ac-r, vied by the. I:nperial Pa-lia-
inert in the ;a(4 n Aft the het-
Ter to prevent the el.;:tp.L. of l'erfons charge.) with fe•
hit„ and other offence.s, from one County to the
osier," he felt it neceifiry to call the attention of the
Boufe to the foli.:et of that AC, and to lay, that he
should feel great diffuicnee in hrtive,i..7, forward any
motion up. n a quttlion wl.ith more properly belong-
ed to a Right Hon. Gentleman, fo much mare
comm....cut than he was to the purpofe ; hut, unlefs
the Court of King's Bench in Ireland had relinquifh-
ed th.tt regard to their own dignity and indepen-
dence, which he was well affured that Court would
never voinntaitly do, fotue revilion was neceffary of
that An, Lk. operation of which had already ex
cited, la Ireland, in much agitation and anxiety. He
was proccedmg when
Mr. SrEAKER regnefted to inform the Hon.
Gentleman, that the ufual forms of the Houle did
not allow of Gentler ten, in the fait inttanee, going
farther into the detail of any queftion relative to
which they intend to give notice of bringing for-
vat-d motions, than incrcli giving the notice itfclf.

If the Hon. Member intended tech a not4e, for the
prefent he would be fo good as to confine hingelf to
that purpofe, as there was now no quellion for dif-
cuflion be•ore the Houle.

Mr. FITZGERAI.D continued, that if he had
not good reafin to believe, that the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman (his Majelty's Attorney General) who origi-
trolly introduced th Bill, had an intention of again
bringing it before Parliament, in order fur revifion
and .1111•21CSIZIC;I:, he himfelf ce:tainly f]ouli feel it
his duty fo to do. Confidering the meafare, however,
in hands lio muJi snore competent to the talk, his ob-
jea iu r.lit,b merely to prefs th necelfity of an
early prr,ceritsrc to the purple, as the col-Sequences
which had :are tdy occurred had excited a good deal
of Awn in Ireland.

The ATTU it EY GENERAL raid, in anfwer
to the Hun. Member, that he, for roe, certainly felt
an amentiment to the Bill neeeicary. Bait that this
opinion was not fuggeiled by the knowledge of any
diteutlion which had taken place in the Court of
King's Ikncli in Ireland, as he was totally uninfotin;
ed with zarveet to any fuch difeufilon. Poflihly, there-
fore, the chie4l of the amendment which tic had in
w might difappoint the expeftation of the Honour-
able Member. But whatever was his own Location
or rt!Atill to that Bill, he Ihould not deem it right
to bi hoz them f sward until tome Winds, now pen-
d:ng dilcullion before another Houle of Parliament,
Iliould be difiurfed of.
Mt. FITZGERALD replied, that he had no per-
fonal views. His objet merely was to obviate the
evolution and alarm which this Bill had already ex-
cited ; aaa ht thought a power ought to be vetted in
tome pert; es, both in England and Ireland, to ena-
ble a man charged in Ireland with a bailable offence,
committed in England, to give bail there, instead of
being dragged back to England at a heavy expellee,
and perhaps to the ruin of his interelts, to give that
bail here ; and the fame regiihoton with relpet tw
perfons in England, charged with bailable offences in
Ireland. He was perfedly convinced the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman who brought forward this Bill,
could never have had in his c-ntemplation any pur-
pofe fo oppreflive and vexatious as that to which it
was now obvious his Bill might be conftrued to give
fandlion. He was confident, therefore, the Right
Hon. Gentleman would feel with him the necetlii y of
amendment upon this point, and be ready to adopt i'.
The A.i-ru RNEYGENE RA L. rejoined, that cer-
tainly no fuch effett of the bill had ever enterel ir.to
his contemplation. The bill was in direct imam mi.
ty with, and almost a tranfcript of, the act of the 13th
of his Majetty, enalling a like tcciprocal jut ilinti-
dence between England and Scotland ; and it never
could have occurred to him, that a law which had
flood thirty years upon our statute books, without the
flightelt complaint of its operation, could he objec-
tionable with relped to Ireland. However, he cer-
tainly agreed with the Hon. Member, and law the
tiet.eflity of amending both laws.
Mr. FITZGERALD then moved, that there be
laid before the Houle, an account of the names of
all perfons committed to the cutiody of the She; iffs
in the feveral prifons in Ireland, fence the 23d July,
1804, ftarno the charges upon which they had been
fo committed, how thofe charges were fupported, and
whether upon oath or not ; with the date of their
commitments and dildiarges refpaively. He Paid,
it was not his with to piefs the motion now, if it was
deemed out of order, but to give notice of it fur ano-
ther day.
Sir EVAN NEPEAN laid, he.fhould ()hie& to the
Hon. Member's motion, worded as he had now an.
nounced it. There were many perfons contined at
prefent, as well as in the courfe of the salt year in
Ireland, upon charges of trearon and fedition, under
the operation of the Habeas Corpus Snfpenflon
to which he law the Hon. Member's motion had re-
ference ; but the cauls of whole confinement, or tile
names of the perfons upon whole information they
were fo confined, it would be tote: ly imptatible and
unlate to difclofe. Even if the very nature of the
charges against many of that perfons were publicly
explained, it would immediately excite fulpicion
againft the perfons from whom Government obtain-
ed their information, and not only dole up thole
fources for the futore, but endanger the alfaiiinarion
of fuel! perfons. So tar as the names of the pct lons
imprifuned, with the dates of their committal and
dilcharge, lie bad no objection to accommodate the
Gentleman's wilbes ; but to the difclofure of
the particulars of the charges againti thofe perfons
refpeilively, he could by no means agree.
Mr. FITZGERALD replied, that his ohjeft in the
motion he mentioned, was merely to akei tain how
the law far fulpending the Habeas Corpus At in
Ireland had been adminificred by the prelent Govern-
ment there. For his own part he charged no abufes
againft the Government, but had a very high opinion
of the moderation of the Noble Lord, now at the heal
of the adminidration in Ireland. He had heard that
Admiaiftratioa„ by come, highly commended for its
temperance in administering the law, and he had
heard it as llrongly condemned by others. Knowing
this to be the cafe, be, indead of being oppoled upon
his motion, thoold rather have expected the Right
Hon- Baronet would fecund a pitrpole lo confonant
to what he ()multi conceive to be his moil cornea with,
namely,th at his adminitl rotion (hold d It and vindicated,
The CFIANC7LLOR of the teXCHEQIJERfaid,
that if loch were the objea of the Hon. Member,
there was yet an odd fart 1.1 particularity about his
motion, which did not wear exactly that co:anterior.
He, however, agreed perfectly with the Right Hon.
Baronet as to the impropriety nF complying with
the motion to the extent in whith it was worded,
fear reafons which had been well explained, and that
mull be In obvious to every body. To anfwer the
DUrpofe daft avowed by the Hon. Gentleman, he
could not mean to call for a lilt of the names of
tire felons, or pertims for ordinary or trivial offences.
It mutt therefore folly anfwer his purpofe to move
for the names of perfons committed and dilcharged,
with the dates of Inch committal or difcharge, under
tile authority of toe Halrea's Corpus Sufpeniion AiEt.
To this Mr. FITZGERALD agreed, and an-
nounced his motion for Monday.