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• Mr. Permed's Family Provision Bull, the flew Brewing Bill,
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lout suggesting the expediency of postponing' the second read.-
ing, Counsel wert ordered to withdraw. After some cony...rm.
thin, however, it was dteermitied to.proceed now, anA Clung?l
were again called in; Mr. WARMER Mr. liAllt ISON, and ano-
ther Gentleman attended, but a g-neral leash was excited whin
it was discovered on Inquiry that they were all for the Bi 1, and
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i Some convenation took place upon this amendment, in the
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ordered to be printed; as was also a B II presented by the Earl of
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The Earl of HARRO WBY pre'ented a Bill.for the better sup.
port and maintera,Ace of Curates, which was read a first time,
aoil ordered to be printed.

THE ADMINISTRATION.
Earl MOIRA said—" My Lords; I rise to dis-
charge a duty which a Noble Marquii, whom I re-
gret I do not see in his place, had he been present,
I am convinced, would have been anxious to perform;
hut it concerns a subject of such unprecedented im-
portance, that I could not persuade myself to defer
it beyond the present moment. The House will per.
featly recollect an expression employed by a Noble
Marquis (Wellesley) on a former night, in which he
alluded to dreadful personal animosities which he com-
plained had existed : I am convinced that the phrase
he employed, escaped his lips without having parti-
cular relation to any individual, but it went forth to
the public, and an application has been made of it
of a most mischievous nature. From what passed
here on the same evening it was found difficult, if
not impossible, to apply it to any Noble Lord present,
land it has been construed as pointing to the highest
quarter, and of course it is calculated o r,duce the
most baneful effect on the public mind. It is to rebut
most directly any such insinuation that I now obtrude
myself upon your Lordships' notice. Could it for a
moment be intended, that dreadful personal animosif
ties were felt by the exalted personage who now fills
the station of a father to his pceple I My Lords,
front my long experience of that most distinguished
personage, and from what I have recently witnessed
of his disposition towards all classes of his country-
men, I venture to state, that nothing could be more .
unfounded, nothing could be more unjust than such
an assertion. I am certain that if the Noble Mar-
quis could have into; dined that the expression he used
would have been thus perverted, he would, without
hesitation, have recalled it before he quitted the
House. In the transactions to which these words
had reference, I have to state most distinctly, that
nothing of that quality existed ; and that in the pro.
jected formation of the Cabinet, as on the one hand
the illustrious personage to- whom I have alluded,
never did suggest one individual as a fit Member,
never did shackle or confine the authority given by
him to the Marquis, and never did make the reser-
vation of a single seat to be filled upon subsequent
consideration ; sn on the other hand there never was
a stipulation for the exclusion of any person of any
'description ; but that the fullest powers were given
to the Noble Lord commissioned w term the Cabinet,
t• lay before the Prince Regent the must beneficial
plan that could be suggested for the establishment
of a Government competent to discharge the public
functions of the nation, in the present most awful
crisis. Having stated' thus much in explanation, •I
do not wish now to enter upon other topics, that may
provoke discussion, but I beg it to be understood,
that i am perfectly ready, when called upon, go go
More fully into the general subject, but from what
occurred on a preceding evening, I imagine that I
shall be allowed to act on my own discretion ; I am,
however, in the command of the House, and I shall,
if it be required, give and information that I have it
in my power to communicate. At present I appre.
bend that I have discharged my duty to the country,
in explaining an expression which from misconstrue,
tion had been applied to the most injurious purposes."
Lord GRENVILLE.—" It would, my Lords,
have been far more satisfactory to me, if my Noble
Friend, who has just resumed his seat, had confined
his statement to the single point of assuring you of a
fact which i trust none doubt ; that whatever discus
sions may have taken place, and whatever conduct
may have been pursued, with regard to recent tran-
sactions, nothing is to be ascribed to motives of per.
sonal animosity. I agree with my Noble Friend,
that the phrase employed by the Noble Marquis on
former night, is to be considered as an expression in.
cidently dropping from him, and to which so Muth
importance is not to he attached as it seemed tot
claim, and as it naturally received. This statement.
I give as my belief, and I should have contented
myself with re-asserting what I told the Rouse oa,
Wednesday, and what I am sure every maw who has
witnessed any part of my conduct, or that of min
Noble Friend behind me t Earl Grey), wpuldßiv•-
as credit for—that in the CiAtile of thaS ragna,4.140541

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tion the wines of four persons, if the Cabinet stet id waist et
twelve, and of five persons, if it should consist of thirteen Mem-
bers,
to be appointed by his Royal Highness the Prince Regent,
to fill such situations as might hereafter be arranged.
" That his Royal Highness the Prince Regent left the selec-
tion of the names to Lords Grey and Grenville, without any in-
struction or personal exclusion ; (hat In completing the arrange-
ments, the Prince Regent has. granted to Lord Wellesley the
entire liberty to propose the names of any persons to hold places
in his Royal Highness's Councils, or any other persons."

wh. er our decision were or were not dictated by a
true sense, of constitutional principles ; whether it
were or were not dictated by a just view, as I continue
to think, of the nature of the proposition made to us,
throughout the whole of our conduct, the faintest ap-
pearance of personal animosity is not to be traced,
nor indeed did it exist in our bosoms towards any in-
dividnals, who could by possibility be concerned in
the arrangements in agitation. I have before disclaim-
ed, and I do now again solemnly disclaim so unwor-
thy, so dishonourable a feeling, unfit to have place
in the minds of public men, at any period, but above
all most unfit to have place in the mind of any man
who entertains the design of partaking in the Admi-
nistration of the Affairs of the Country, at this awful
and momentous crisis.—(Hear, hear.)—Had my No-
ble Friend confined himself to an explanation merely
upon this subject, I should not have felt the smallest
disposition to trouble the House on the present occa-
sion with a single word, for I concur with him that
at this moment it is desirable that all discussion upon
the gei.eral question should, as much as possible, be
avoided—but I carnot help remarking, that although
I doubt not my. Noble Friend's understanding, I think
be has asserted what is by no means correct. I must
take leave to state, that the impression made upon
my mind by an official and authorised paper, which
I was called upon to consider, is completely at //a-
-fiance with that which he has expressed. It was dis-
tinctly notified to me in that document that the
Prince Regent bad signified his Royal pleasure as to
the pet sons who should fill particular offices. Four
individuals were expressly named, and the places
they should occupy as Members of the Cabinet,
pointed out in the written proposal that was submit-
ted to my inspection. It is necessary for me to give
this explanation, because upon that understanding of
the words, to my mind obvious and unequivocal,
rested the decision which I felt myself compelled to
form. r sincerely regret that the Noble Marquis,
principally instrumental in these transactions, is nut
now present to state to the House his construction of
the terms employed, thus affording an explanation
equally imsortant to himself and to the country."
Earl MOIRA.—" Yon must, my Lords, be sen-
sible, that were I to discuss the subject alluded to by
my Noble Friend, who last addressed you, I should
enter opal an investigation as impolitic, as laborious
and irregular, because it is impossible that the House
should be able to exercise a mature judgment, or to
form a deliberate opinion, when there are no facts
before it to affuid the requisite information.—(Hear,
bear.)—ft would be the more improper, in the ab-
sence of the individual who is most materially and
immediately concerned. With respect however to
the conduct ef the Noble Marquis, I would observe,
that in my bumble judgment it is impossible that
any man placed in a situation of such difficulty,
could have conducted himself with more high ho-
nour, or more delicate uprightness. (Hear, hear.)—
Whenever this impostant subject shall be discussed,
in which the Noble Lord must necessarily take a
prominent part, and the House is called upon to de-
el.:re its decision, all persons, I am hell assured, will
be convinced that what I have stated is strictly true.
As to the particular point to which my Noble Friend
has alluded, I believe that its obscurity is owing to
a deficiency f information : . I imagined that some
misapprehension must have existed, and if any delay
has been experienced in the establishment of an Ad.
ministration, I am persuaded that it has been in a
great degree, if not solely, attributable to an unfor-
tunate misconception. When it shall have been re.
moved, negociations I trust may be renewed in those
quarters where talents teside, most essential to the
due discharge of the arduous functions of the State.
delay has occurred, I ani convinced that it
has arisen front an earnest desite to obtain assistance
from a source most adequate, and not unwilling to
atli.rd it."
Earl GREY.—" It is far from my wish to pro-
long any discussion on this subject, in the state in
which it at present stands, and I should certainly
have done what my Noble Friend (Loid Grenville)
stated to be his intention, namely, abstained front
troubling:the House with a tingle word, if the state-
ment made-by the Noble Earl who spoke last had
not placed me in a situation where it was necessary
to clear myself at least froM misapprehension. It is
unquestionably my wish that no ex parte statements
siw .1d go foldh to the world before the whole of this
4:4- Fiala question shall be thoroughly and com-
pletely examined ; but it is above all things neces-
sary that I should stand clear in the opinion of your
Lordships, and in the estimati, n of the public, and
it an erroneous assertion has been hazarded by my
Noble Friend (Lora Meira), however sure may have
been his intension, I must beg leave to correct it :
if it be directly adverse to the judgment I have
formed alter due deliberation, it is necessary that I
should state to this House and to the ccuntry, that
in the decision I adopted, I was guidtd, as I think
correctly, by a diametrically opposite interpretation,
I understand the Noble Lord (Moira) to maintain,
in the first place, that the Princeßegent, in the com.
municaoun his Royal Highness thought tit to make
to my Noble Friend below me, had named no parti-
cular person to fill any particular situation ; and in
the second place, that the proposal came to us per
fectly uncircumscribed and unfettered by previous
stipulations. That the Noble Earl does so understand
it I cannot for an instant doubt, and I much lament
that the Noble Mareitris, who was the channel of this
authorised communication, is not present to give his
interpretation ; but having received that authorised
communication fist personally and verbally to my,
Sell, and afterwards when it was committed to writ-
ing, and having understood it accordirg to the na-
tural and obvious import of the words, it was impos-
sible for me to act then, or to act now, regarding
that proposition, in any other way than that wliicn
was dictatedby the plain construction of the language
employed. I must here beg leave to read from the
written document a single paragraph, the substance
of which was first personally made known to me
" That his Royal Highness the Prince Regent Las signified
k's Veasure that MarquieWellebicy should conduct the fprmation
elf GovernMent in 011 its branches, and should ix First Com-
missioner pf the Triusury, and that I.ord Moira, Lord F.r.idne,
ond Mr. Canning should he Members of the Cabinet.
$f That it was probable that a,Cahinet formed on an enlarged
We, must he composed of twelve or thirteen Members : rho
Ike Pones Repent wlslied Lords Grey and Grenville, on the part
their frierxlms to ramirusad for bit Royal iiitthallo affenbo•

This, my Lords, was the proposition made to us,
and which we understand as naming particular per-
sons, and as limiting, circumscribing, and providing
by previous stipulated arrangement, that particular
places shall be assigned to such particular persons.
Under such circumstances, I need scarcely add that
the proposal met wi:h my decided refusal, sanction-
ed by the concurrence of my Noble Friend before
me (Lord Grenville), after consultation with my
Noble Friend behind me (Lord Holland). It is true,
the subsequent explanations have been afforded by
the Noble Earl (Moira), but without professing to
have any instructions or authority from the Prince
Regent. In doing so, I give him full credit for that
anxious desire to promote the interests, tranquillity,
and prosperity of the nation, which throughout life
he has uniformly displayed—(Bear, hear.) These
explanations, were, however, private and personal,
for the purpose, as he conceived, of removing an im-
putation upon his conduct; but as I have before said,
they were not of an official character. That he was
not vested with any, powers for this purpose, is con-
firmed by a letter from the Noble Marquis,-who, re-
ferring to these explanations, stated distinctly, that
neither he nor the Noble Earl had authority to make
any but private communications, and he expressed
his regret that they had not. the Prince Regent's ex-
'press commands to enter into such explanations as
he deemed necessary. I have thought it due to my-
self and to my friends to notice distinctly these facts,
and they were further necessary in answer to what
fell from the Noble Earl on the subject of the delay
which has occurred. 'lt the private communica-
tions, with the concurrence of my Noble Friend, I
returned a prompt answer, in which I referred to
the former official paper, containing the authorized
prOposal upon which I had already communicated
my determination : at the same time I felt that these
personal explanations, if subsequently sanctioned,
might remove some of the obvious objections to the
detail ; yet they in no degree altered the general prin-
ciple on whir I had rested my previous decision.-
1 Thus much it appeared necessary that I should say,
! to prevent the possibility of any misapprehension ;
and I lament sincerely, that, in consequence of the
speech of the Noble Earl, it was utterly impossible
for me to remain silent."
Earl MOIRA.—" The great difficulty that has
arisen rests solely upon the construction to be put
upon the document from which the Noble Earl has
read a passage ; and I confess that they strike my
understanding in a point of view directly opposite.—
The Noble Lords would probably have thought with
Me, if they bad possessed the same means of judg.
ing ; for in a previous interview with the Noble Mar-
quis, I had an opportunity of knowing the real sen-
timents by which he was actuated in drawing up the
written proposal. The Noble Marquis will hereafter
have an oppostunity of bearing testimony to the cor-
o:ctiscss of my statement ; the whole subject was
opened with a spit it of the utmost fairness, and with
a sincere desire to leave ample room for subsequent
discussions and arrangements. With regard to the
nomination of individuals, it was to be understood to
be a mere statement of a wish on the part of the Il-
lustrious Per:onage who administered the power to
the Noble Marquis : and it was naturally believed
that the names introduced would be acceptable to
the Noble Lords, because they showed the amicable
tone and dispcsition in which the proposal was made.
For the last' 7 years, it is known that I have not be-
longed to the party usually designated as the Oppo-
sition : and though free from all political engage-
ments, yet our views in general have been so accor.
dant, that I have voted with them, perhaps upon
more occasions than even some of those Noble Lords
who have been stiled their firm political friends ; and
this circumstance may thew at least the disposition
with which my name, with ethers, was inserted as an
individual to be honoured with a seat in the Cabinet.
—I see likewise a Noble and Learned Friend (Ers-
kine) whose name will be noticed, and to whom the
same remark will apply. I can conceive nothing
that more decisively and unequivocally shews the in-
tention with which the proposal was framed, than
the circumstance that it points to the political friends
of these to whom it is addressed. The House will
also remark, that there is no designation of particu-
lar offices, or indeed of any one office, so that all
was left open to the fullest discussion : and I shall
be much Eurprised when the Noble Marquis is atfor-
tied an opportunity of making his statement, it he
does not confirm my opinion, 'lint his instructions
were of the most general and liberal nature. I will
even go further, for unless the nature of the inter-
view between the Noble Masquis and the Noble Lords
was of ,t nature entirely different from that which 1
obtained. the Noble Marquis must have stated dis.
tincly that all ulterior arrangements were to be mat-
. ter of
,future free and unshackled discussion. But,
my Lords, I am deviating from the course I would I
. lay down, and I am shewing in my own person the
unfitness of arguing a question before the necessary
information is supplied. The uuth is, that I put one
construction upon the paper, and my Noble Friends
put another ; and surely I have a right to contend I
that it lias been misapprehended : and 1 oking at the
service of the country as the object in view, it will
not be denied that it is a laudable attempt to remove
the misconstruction. It might perhaps be expected ;
by some Noble Lords on the other sicl!. that I should ,
disclose something regarding the present state of the
negotiation; but though I would disco untenance any
such communication at present, yet it it be required I ;
shall not shrink from making its but it will not be for-'
gotten that it was only yesterday morning that I was
able to ascertain what course of proceeding ought to be
adopted. Our efforts hare hitherto failed, yet (looking
towards Lords Grey and Grenville) even at this me).
meet my hopes of conciliation and union are not ex-
tinctin a quarter where I am anxious that my offers
shall be accepted, ancrwhich has candidly manifested
a disposition to promote the general object. It has )
been admitted on all handsrthat a crisis of greater
Idanger and difficulty never was known—a moment
whin the ;wavy claimed Uwe ausiously the service

of every man who is capable of rendering Matinee, ble Friend inadvertently. Certain I am, that
was never recorded in our annals ; and I hope, that was in the slightest degree intended to apply
neither these nor any other discussions may comma- high authority on whose part it has been an
nicate to public men, as lam sure they will not to properly disclaimed; and lam fully satisfied
me, any sharpness of spirit which may delay, or was not intended to apply to any indirideo.,
perhaps even defeat, an object on all accounts so es• really inadvertently dropped by my Noble
sential to the welfare and perhaps the existence of the at the moment. My Noble Friend may ha,
British Empire. Under these impressions, I wish at encounter with prejudices and dislikes, but /
present to go no further, and shall sit down, repeat- I tiafied that there slid not, nor does exist,
ing my firm conviction of the spirit of conciliation of any individual, any thing like personal
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with which the original proposal was made to my nor did my Noble Friend lu.end so to appk,
Noble Friends." I phrase. My Lords, if I may be permitted te'
Lord ERSKINE. 44 The House will, I hope, few words as to the cause of the failure of the
excuse me, if, after what has fallen from the Noble j elation conducted by my Noble Friend, I
Earl, I feel it necessary to say a few words upon this that its failure arose not from any causes that
subject. It appears to me that the real question to have actually prevented its ultimate auccess,a
be decided is, whether my Noble Friends are justi- my Noble Friend having in the first it,
fled in putting the construction they bold upon the ceived too sanguine an idea of success.
lwritten proposition made to them, and this construc• Marquis (Douglas) has suggested the pope,
tion .was to be ascertained by a candid and fair peru- pointing a day for thediscussionef the sula
sal of the paper ? I confess for one, never having in the circumstances which have been '
seen the document, or indeed heard of it, until it House. It is not for me to state to your
WAS read to me in company with others, I put the r what would be a proper course of pros.,
same construction upon it as that which is enter- such an occasion, but I am thoroughly
tained by my two Noble Friends. That the proposal that my Noble Friend (the MerquisW:"
was made in themost liberal spirit, and from the most hail the day of such a discussion, when
honourable motives, cannot be denied ; and had the conduct in this transaction would be ,
object been attained, the deliverance of the country Lordships, with the greatest satisfaction. Tee
from its present calamities could not have been placed Marquis (Douglas) has, however, made •
in better hands. It was, however, most mate.ial, that tam, in which 1 cannot agree, that success
those who, at the present crisis, when all are impe- be expected in an application made by
riously called upon to exert their utmost talents for Friend to these with *hom he essentially
the welfare of the state, sefused to accede to the pro- political subjects, and who were, as the I
position, should point out distinctly, and beyond the quis expresses it, political enemies. My
possibility of doubt, the solid grounds on which they cannot at all agree in this observation i I
rested. It is at all times desirable that public men Friend and the Noble Lords to whom el
should stand clear in the opinion of the nation, and agreed entirely upon one great point, the .
as the interpretation I put upon the document was of a numerous class of his Majesty's
precisely that which my Noble Friends entertained, I upon ocher points it does not appear to me„
thought it right thus shortly to express my concur- were any thing more than technical difficulties
rence in the sentiments they have expressed." stood in the way of a satisfactory error
The Marquis of DOUGLAS—" I obtrude myself tween my Noble Friend and the '
unwillingly upon the House for the purpose of im- luded to."
pressing upon Noble Lords the imperious necessity The Marquis of DOUGLAS wished to
for prompt and vigorous measures. At a period ac- consideration of the subject during the •
knowledged to be as ithout parallel, we have now been the Noble Marquis.
for some weeks confessedly without a Government. The LORD CHANCELLOR.--el M
I cannot by any means concur in the interpretation am so strongly convinced of the impropriety
put upon the paper by the Noble Earl (Moira), but tinuing this discussion, particularly when theft
I coincide entirely in opinion with my Noble Friends questisat before the House, that I shall *V
near me, that it would have placed them in a situa- duty to move an adjournment, or at leant,
tion where they could not conscientiously act, and that this House do at its rising adjourn till
which, if they had consented to have held, would I 'have heard, however, with great satisfacese
have been equally unconstitutional and impolitic.— Noble Lord (B iringdon) state, that the
The opinion to which I have come has been clearly used by the Noble Marquis, not now le,
expounded by any Noble Friends, and until further ful personal animosities, does not apply to
investigation at the proper time convince me to the dual whatever. Had there been any qr
contrary, I shall continue to hold it. In the present discussion which involved this point, I .
condition of affairs something ought to be done, not heard all that might have been said by any
only for the country, but for public men, and it is due Lords upon this subject, meaning myself, at a
to the Noble Marquis that aspeedy explanation should elusion, to have must distinctly disclaimed, m
be afforded. I will not myself suggest any particular part of myself and all those individuals
day for the discussion of this very interesting subject, any feelings whatever of personal animosity.
but I would recommend that some Noble Lord, ac- to prove, my Lords, that I entertain no fedi'
.' quaintest with the engagements of the Noble Marquis, animosity towards the Noble Marquis (Welk
should name a period that he imagines will be conve. who is not now present, I do most
nient. I will not detain the house longer than to your Lordships not to proceed in ,
make a single remark upon the probability that the the absence of that Noble Marquis. My .
Nable Marquis was actuated cn;y by a wish to con- a subject in which the expressions used by
ciliate in the offer he was instructed to make, and
'Marquis form so prominent and material a
I uhich was refused, according to my. views, fur the Ido earnestly hope that your 7----' "
' most solid and indiapensible reasons. I confess, that proper not to proceed further in
iit never appeared to me likely that the Noble Marquis, that Noble Marquis is not present."
1 whose political opinions on nearly all subjects, were The discussion here ternunated.—A
sr opposite to those of my Noble Friends, should be House Adjourned till Monday.
able to effect that union of parties and sentiments, .
which at the same time that it is so desirable; it is so . HOUSE OP COMMONS, TUNE fr
difficult to procure." - Accounts from the Commusimers of Public Re
eckas the In•pector•Oeseral of Esporu and Imports,
i The Duke of ATHOL.—" I had not; any Lords,
f teldered to lie cn 0 u taws.
the honour to be present in the House when the ex- General GAILVIGNE gave' notice, tbst be me%
pression; an explanation of which has this night been day, move for leave to amend the Act, passed hi tic'
given, was employed ; but %then it reached my ears I of
trurnitent, lroftebter ImPaelavellientett Weep oreedDahlill "-mos
immediately conceived that it had been hastily ut-
tered, and that it was impossible in times like these ing inhte Customs of Ireland being brought up,
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that at an
that pet tonal animusities'c add agitate a British breast. period of the present state of the Govenuneetr
At present, I think further discussion would only be
productive of injury, and had I been in my place on stated the House to be in a dilemma how to actirie
respect to grants of the public money. Their making
a former night, I would have deprecated then, as I
do now, the discussion into sshich we have been led. grants, under existing circumstances, might be cm
sidered irregular, while their withholding them, ia
I do not trouble the House often with making j
speeches, but I trust that I shall not on that account p some instances, might be productive of public awn.
venience. He could wish a line drawn to regohn
be the less forward to devote my life and fortune to
the service of niy country. I own that I heard with the conduct of Parliament in such a situatios• It
was not his intention to impede the measure befall
sorrow what fell from a Noble Earl (Moira), which
the House in its progress,
in my humble opinion was calculated only, by pro- nor to oppose it till it ar•
rived at its last stage, long before which, be tread,
mining debate, to fogs r the evil he was anxious to de. i a regular Administration would be formed. Ti
stroy. For my own part, whenever the Prince Regent, Irish Custom Acts of last Session did not expire iii
exercising the duties of Majesty, shall have formed an the sth July, and as the measure proposed resPedni
Administration competent to the discharge of their
public duties, I shall never be a caviller for particu- them, was not new, but only went to continue tio
present duties, and involved a question which go
tar men or particular measures, being willing to sup-
pert both the one end the other, when the object is the not necessarily affected by a change of Ministers'',
conceived no inconvenience-could arise, if some aq
rrosperity and welfare of the State. I shall neither
were made, before they came to discuss it io itslet
j. in the partyon the one side nor on the s ther, but shall stage.
support those men whose wish is to save their country.
I an ready to admit that there are men on,the other felt Mr. W. POLE rose only to state the pleasure is
in acquainting the Honourable Baronet that lit
side of the House, able from their talents, and willing
from their disposition, to join in so laudable an un- Custom Duties would not be this year atignmetelli
Colonel BASTARD declared, that there awed,
dertaking, and I trust that their assistance will be
to him less hope than ever of constituting a viral
obtained to extricate us from the perils, real or ima.
and efficient Government, unless the House true*
pinary, by which me are.encompassed. Gon forbid
at should not be so. lam no party man, and for , solved to interfere.—(Neer, hear.) He could astl.
lieve that the feelings of the country, or its conthigt
thirty years I have supported with zeal and fidelity .
our King, and the best parts of our Constitution ; in • internal or external, could have been faithfully repot
anted to his Royal Highness, or that the necessited,
these sentiments I have risen from my cradle, and in
these sentiments, I trust, I shall descend into my redressing the grievances of the people had been aa•
t ficiently impressed upon the Royal mind. Hernial!
grave. My principal object in rising was to depre-
cate further discussion, more particularly at this mo. therefore that the House would not suffer anethlr
day to pass without expressing the sense the, eatlP
went, when the public feeling is alive, and which
can only inform the nation that no determination had tained of the importance of addressing the Prince R`
gent as to the dangers that envirdn the country, ir_
yet been formed. Under such circumstances, I trust the great events which might be anticipated in NI!
that the negociatiens will be suffered quietly to pro. North of Europe. He had no predilection far Ng '
ceed, that an arrangement satisfactory to all may be party before another, but he had some read's",
accomplished. I have no place to seek, no favour for his country—(dtae, hear).
to ask, I speak only as a British subject, on the General GISCOIGNE stated, that it had 1120
broad feeling of love to my King, and safety to my 5
Colliery." his intentions either that day or the next, 3 ..
best meet the pleasure if the House, to move so etti"
Lt rd t3ORINGDON. My Lords, having the : dress to the Prince Regent, which, with their pas*
honour to be in the habits of friendship with the No-
sion, he would read.
ble Marquis who has been alluded to, I think it right
Mai
The SPEA KER fetid, that as there was akolll
(although I have had no communication with him
a question before the House, the Honourable
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upon the•subjectil particularly after what has fallen could rent, consistently with its orders, i
from the Noble uke respecting the expression used what would form the matter of another and a
bee llogi:1;
by my Noblb Friend, of ' dreadful personal animosi. question,
ties,' to state to your Lordships my firm conviction
Mr. WORTLEY was sensible of the deep ems
d that the expression alluded by dropped from spy No- felt at present both by the House an
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