Star.
London, England, 1822-05-16 00:00:00

(the Marc
though hee Act paean to speak
in terms of peealiar admiration of the Holy Alliance,
he thought the Hoose would take the Hon. Mem-
ber's criticism upon it cunt group 4uLs, becatnie his doc-
trines were tinctured as strongly with what he would
call the anti-Holy Alliance, as other doctrines might
be with a different character,--(Hear, and lasterl
There were nine Courts at. which Ministers of the
cond description resided. Among these was America,
where every one would see the reciprocal advantage,
to the interests of the two nations, of keeping up these
sentiments of amity and friendship which now so hap-
ly existed. The other Courts were those of Prussia,
Portugal, the Two Sicilies, Sweden, Bavaria, Sar-
dinia, Wurtemburg, and Saxony. He would now
come to the difference of expense of which the Hon.
Member had complained. He stated that there had
been upon the whole an increase of 150,0001. and
'that 60,0001. of this was upon the salaries of foreign
Ministers. There was an error into which the Ho-
nourable Gentleman had naturally fallen with re-
gard to this last sum. It was 50,0001. instead of
60,0001. because 10,0001. was expended in another
service, although it. was placed with the salaries.—
The 50,0001. was the sum upon which they were to
contend, and he would now proceed to shew how it
was distributed over the different classes of Ministers.

The expense of the six hitther missions was at present
rap°. In 1793 it was L 50,000, making an increase
of about 1.4000 to each Minister. At present the ex-
penditure for the nine Ministers was £32,850. In
1793, adding the £4OOO for the Wirtemberg Minister
since appointed, it would have been LV9,000, only
leaving an increase of about 1:3000. With regard to
Tuscany, taking all circumstances into consideration,
the expense there was less than in 1793. The Hon.
Member seemed to consider a Minister at. this Court
to be useless; but he could tell him, that almost all
the countries of the world had their Representatives
there. Even Spain and Portugal sent their Ministers.
The reason why this was done might be found in the
position of Tuscany. It was the connecting point be-
tween Italy and Germany, and it was therefore one
of the firstimportance. He now came to Switzer-
land, which subject, he could assure Hon. Gentlemen
opposite, he should be ready to meet to-morrow even-
ing with very little alarm. They would find this topic
as illusory as many others by which they had been'
deceived upon other occasions. With respect to what
the Hon. Gentleman had said of the unimportance of
Switzerland, the whole policy of this Government at
all times denied his doctrine. We had respected
tia itzerland front a moral feeling as well as from a
political one, for we had always admired that inno-
cent and brave people—(Hear, hear, hear ! )—for
their conduct upon all trying occasions. They had
resisted all attacks upon their country, and particu-
larly that of France, with exemplary determination ;
but, independently of this moral obligation, it had
always been the policy of this country to send a Re-
presentative to the Swiss Cantons. In no period, ex-
cepting that portion of the war when the country was
threatened with occupation by the French, had we
neglected to send a .Minister Plenipotentiary there.—
There was at one time, he believed, an unfortunate
Gentleman, named Brown, who was sent to Switzer-
land as Minister with only £250 a year; but that
was only in consequente of some irregularity in his
conduct, and the sending him there was an act
of forbearance. To give up the practice of sending
a proper Minister to that country, would be to abandon
the whole stream of our policy towards it. It was the
key-stone, or the bond, which held all the surround-
log countries together, and was consequently a posi-
tion of the very highest importance. It had been
considered in this point of view by all the Powers at
the Congress of Vienna, and it was there determined
that its strength should be upheld and consolidated.
The present accredited Minister from the Court of
lins.ia at the Swiss Cantons was the Prince Capo
&Istria, and France had recently been represented
by a nephew of Prince Talleyrand. Let not Hon.
Qzntlemen talk of business upon such questions as
these; the policy of the country ought to be con-
sulted, and such considerations as that left out of
view altogether. He must protest against Europe
being governed, and its affairs managed upon such
petty principles as these. Hon. Gentlemen seemed to
think that the situations in question should be put up
to auction, and sold to the best bidder, or to any one
who would go abroad for the least money—(Hegr).
It was then insinuated, for some party purposes, that
the situation had been created for the individual who
vas appointed to it. He could state to the House,
from documents if necessary,, bttt he Thought they
would take his word upon such a matter, that when
Mr. Stratford Canning, who held the appointment
before, had his audience of the King upon his return,
his Majesty stated expressly, that another Minister
Plenipotentiary would be appointed to the Cantons.
He dated say the Hon. Gentleman who wished for
the whole foreign policy to be laid open before his
Committee, would like to hear all the anecdotes
about this affair ; and indeed he could indulge his ap-
petite upon this occasion, only, he feared it would in-
crease on what it fed upon—(A Jauh).—When Mr.
Lesborough went out as Charge d'Affaires, it was
stated in the body of his credentials that beheld the
office ad interins, until a Minister should be sent out
a; before. This he feared would quite destroy the
beautiful illusion of Hon. Gentlemen for to-morrow
Right. With regard to salary, it would be the same
now as that which Mr. Stratford Canning mewed,
with the exception that it partook of the general re-
duction of 10 per cent. which had just been made.—
Ile was aware that in saying all this now, he was
Eivirz it to the benefit of the Hon. Gentleman who
Intended to bring forward the motion to-morrow
tight. But he had nothing else to say upon it, and
was at a loss to
.know what the Hon. Gentleman
could say at all. However, he was now putting hit
own brief into his hands. In appointing Me. Wynn,
the Government considered his station, his rank,
and family connections, and thereby paid a com-.
pliment to the Swiss Cantons. With regard to their
chusing a person who bad a pension, that was an ad-
vantage, because there would be its amount, as well.
as the ten per cent. to come off the three thousand'
nine hundred pounds. Therefore, although they
should not bring it down to Mr. Brown's £250 a-year,
yet the expense would be considerably lessened. He-
would next proceed to state the grounds of the in-
crease in the allowances sir.ce 1792. It must be borne
in mind, that the Euraordinaries had been reduced
To a great amount, and the salaries were increased ip.
ccapcquoce, by the mom of jags; *Wows .91)-•