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If greet diShillky bo id sot it stll deny; but that dif-
4cuity seas is no diglt degree attributable to the course.
whidt had been hitherto taken in that House on the
siihject, and by which the hopes of the Roman Cathch
list bust necesSitrily have been raised very highly. Be-
lieving, .as he did,. that these exceptions and this exclu-
sion ought still to be continued, and the conviction of
bat Mind.resnaining still unaltered by any of the argu-
ssitOtate had beard, he felt it to be his duty to that
exiatictioo, and to the Crown of which be was a
roster,to penevore in the course he had adopted,
pale sit he might fed it to be to differ on this occasion
Wont so away bus rable Melds of his with whom be usually
-ainee—(flea). lie had, at kat, not bees inetrumental in ex.
citing or encouraging any Moe hopes is the minds of the Raman
Catholics, and he therefore (porker for the last time) should now,
by his vote, attest his nattempromising opposition to this Idll,
whidt propssell to grant tire, all that they chimed—(Hear).
Mr. BROUGHAM, in noticing the statement re-
specting Dr. O'Beirne, said, that if had been in error
in his statement, it was a popular error, and one in
-which a great many of the contemporaries, and even in-
timates of the Prelate shared. The Honourable Mem-
ber then said that the dangers which were apprehended
by the Right Honourable Gentleman were the very
same which had b.en feated 120 years ago. ; and. as no
stischief had. taken place, it was only fair for him to
call upon the House to &Miss from their minds any
apprehension of mischief arising from this measure. At
the period when the Union with Scotland had taken
place, a great alarm was occasioned at the intro-
duction of sixteen Scotch Peers into the House of
Lords, and the then Bishop of Bath and Wells,
whose successor at this day had shewn himself so
determined an opponent of the Catholics, said dm,
the)- were going to expose themselves to a danger
which the t •ngue could scarcely speak. But then
also, an alarm of a very different description pre
vailed in &Wand ; for it was said. le in GOD'S name
don't send up siz'een Peers, and forty-five Commoners
to a land of Bishops and abominations"—(A laugh).
Such was the impinge of those who were hostile to the
Union. But what would the House think, were the
sentiments t.f a Protestant Bishop. who was considered
the very lower of Episcopacy upon the great question
of orthodox belief ? He spoke of a Bishop who disliked
the Catholics. and had an utter hatred to Jesuits. That
Bishop said, 46 that though they might sign the Thirty-
nine Articles of the Church of England, still they were
not bound to believe each and every oce of them,
though, taking them all in a lump, they might
make out a very good system of belief—( A laugh)
There was a spring tide of faith on the one side, which
acted against the ebb tide on the other, and between
them was made an average &hi, which the party
might swallow, and he was thps entitled to take his
living"—(t.aughtcr). Nothing could lead to greater
absurdity, than always to take words in their literal
sense. It had been said that Bishop Doyle's pamphlet
rood in direct contrast with his examination before the
Committee. 'There might, be many things in the pam-
phlet which he (.Jr. Brougham) could wish bad never
been published, and also many things which the writer
himself might have wished to see expupged ; but was it
not vet y passible tftt conccive,and very fair for the House
to pie.ume, that the Catholics might evince regret for
any intemperate lattg n age in which they had indulged,
after having experienced in this country a more kindly
feeling towards them, and after *tole House had at least
condescended to hear the story of their grievancts ?
Piet-smut:on was pot the consequence of Catholicism. but
of a doming, c Church' acrd it would always display
itsels, in a morel qv lei degree, till reasou bad its full
sway, and kindness taught •niets to entertain mute cha-
ritable feeliogs towards' Tisch other in religious matters
(firer, hear). Luther, who was at the head of the first.,
protesters agaiokt the heresies of the Church of Rome,
was not flee from a persecuting spirit. The members
of the Church of England were not Lutherans, they
were Calvinists. It was said by L-rd Chatham, that
we had a Calvinistic C eed, an Arminian Clergy, and a
Popish Liturgy. But what had been the conduct of
Galvin. whose creed we had adopted ? Had he not
bursted Servous, for holding certain opinions which
were at variance with the principles of Christianity ? But
to come nearer home, he would ask. did history record
anything m ire cruel than the persecutions which
took place in Scotland 120 years ago, under the
reign ise so execrable tyrant, when the Covenanters were sent to
sit thy death of the primitive martyrs 7—(dear, hear).—At that
time two stets were placed in determined array against each ether.
differing only in this. 'that the one sect was backed by. priestly
power, while the other was composed of sidpit, honest, sod. vir-
tuous men, who could avail themselves of no eedsoiletkal advan-
tages. The enmity of these seem bad no prider in the page of
modern history. For his own part, he would' call upon the House
to pat all these things out of the question. lie did dismiss out of
sight all that bad been said or Jesuitism and Popish violence.' Let
them open the doors of the Constitution to the Cotholics, and
all nevi nags, jealousies, and necrintinations.would thus cease, unless
assnatter of histocg; to make themselves and their children happy
that they had survived such scenes. Let them remember what was
said by Thames, in quoting whom the Right Honourable Gen
thlulus, the President of the Board of Trade, had placed the
wt .rd " prascriptinues" at the top of his climax. The passage
ran thus—" prxscriptiones quibus murbi irritaniur non sanuntur."
Nothing could be more just than his Cobservatior. If that peace,
which in England was naturally enjoyed. wad maintained in Ireland
only by the bayonet; if in Ireland (be band was *hewn not in hind_
:less, but mailed In armour, or armed with the whip or scourge
could prate be said to exist in one half of the empire, while the
other half was suffering under torments and chains? Ten years
ago, during the American war, and before that, during the time of
the French Revolution, was Ireland regarded in my other light
than as a province of France ? But the time of war might recur
agaimand he should MX believe any man who might be vain enough
to pledge himself for the peace of freland,if the claims of theCatbo-
tee were rejected. He would, however, take upon himself to gua-
rantee flint peace, with the aid of the House; and the only sure
wry was to send up this BM to the other House with a large, a
powerfd majority—(llear, hear). lie would answer for the
peace of Ireland from the moment that this Bill was passed into
a law. Der, if it did not pass-Laye and that, too, in the reign
• Monarch, theft he *add exonerate him-

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ff of our present gracious Mosiareh. then he *could exonerate him-
self, for no Man mold foresee the consequences. The lion. and
Learned Gentleman eoncluded by saying, " I call upon you to do
it, while it is day, and not to wait till that black night shrouds you,
when no man can tell what will come"—(Repeated cheers).
Sir F. MAKI supported the motion, but was frequently in
serrupted in the course of his speech by bud cries of i• !••
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Ms. FORUM shortly supported the MIL
' die gallery was then cleared for a division, and the numbers
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• For the third reading . . . 246
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' Against inst • • . • . ' 227
4 i - Majority • • —2l
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: . The announcement of the numbers ours received with cheers.—
; •• 'I ' Adjourned at Two o'CLocx. •
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