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ittellpoled to fellow;
laws editing .en the -
:reed to SOC.ommietee, and alto
ae Terra cre ornraittee of laekliffinp Upon
ehe Report of this Cnmolities Ph*, would find
• euphoria means that oar pooore,r, ter the interelt
of this important branch of our manuregtores. From
commetnicatione,orhich he-eliad had with the parties
enug irrorefted, fie had ihe fatisfelion to late that
they diel not prayed.' to bring forward any heft (vi-
lleins. but were prepared oiereti upon the cafe they
bad made out latk,leffion. He a:peeled, therefore.
t the furl ion would be brought to ilTue in the j
t Dot whatever plsafute he should feel
• aging it to • fietiefedory termination, be WAS not
. • to objet to,hellipbot any farther evidence. 1
might be though offends!. It was
all the 'parties interefled rhould be fully heard, if
*ay had not felt that the cafe as made out before the
;user Committees was fully fu/Kcient.
The reveral laws relating to the Woollen Mane
Carus.
and the Report of the committee of lull
thereon, ware then, on the motion of Lord
TEMPLE, referred, to a Committee.
atootierion orals.
• Kr. PERCEVAL sok, and expretfed his hope, that
be might be indulged with putting one or two quef.
tions to the Nohle Lord ("polite (Howick) on the tub.
led of thee papers. He might have introduced them
by way of motion, but the gintwers might render any
111110111‘. unease/fart. The ra quer/inn refpeeted the
41111111.1111Weation c Talliyrand to Mr, Tot, of the
' Sob of Mara. In the French actount of the mat.
INT there appeared to be a grange interpolation. He
to silk. whether there was in fel any thing in
rehletter to Mr Fos more than is given in the pa
pen now on the table, or whether there was any
thinglilte it in any of the other letters of M. Talley-
, rand ?if there was, he wised it to be produced.—
l'he next queflion he willed to a& was, with regard
*Plitt letter merited N.l. e,erhich was one of the eth
aei Mirth, from M. Talleyrand. It appeared that
tw ataa only tit eatrali ; and it was important that
told have the whole letter, and if this was re-
' be would be obliged to make a motion on the
, and then he would Rate, his reafuns why he
11116eiltht it fo material. He Ihotild alto like to know,
,ilsbetber to this letter,whieh appeared to be a private
• elite, any private *awe was fent by Mr. Fut ? He
*ether willful to be informed, whether any commit.
'llfaation had been made to Lnrd Yarmouth on the
of the Negotiation. by the French Government
tod the eonverfation which he had with M.
• immediately before he left Paris, and
*hat was the time of his leaving Parisl He obrerved
thee the Paper, Rating the nature of this comma*.
tions to left. Foe, was dated the t3th of June: He
milted to know whether that was the time when the
paper was drawls up, or whether it was the time at
which it had been delivered to Mr. Fex ? There Were
other feints on which forne explanation was necefiar y.
'One rafted to the Paper of Lord Lauderdale, of the
iith of Augull, in which he limed to the French Go.
• •Oernaient that circumflances,which It was unneeefiler y
1. to detail, permitted his Majelly to negotiate
! He wifhed to know welly what chore'
..--4111rcomftances were ? Then, in the letter of Mr.
'Windham of the loth September, it WAS raid, "that
awry endeavour was made at the outlet of the
Negotiation, to obtain the reflitution of Naples to
bit Sicilian Mayfly, and that the grouuda on which
• If was thought fit to defitt from that claim are de
toiled in the coneefpondence of this office with Lords
Yarmouth and Lauderdale." Now, there was not
vte paffage in the Papers produced relative to this
Raid!, except a very sort one in one or Mr. Foe's
letters. He therefore wifhed to knows whether there
could be any objection to the produetion of the reft of
Correrpondetice alluded to ? Then, in a letter of
leoid Lpoderdale to Talleyrand, he raid, " that the
.MlllO4 which would be Willed upon, were in robßince
fame as thole requited by' Baron de Budherg."
—Now this was the only allufion to the terms upon
which It appeared the Negotiation broke of 1 He
thought that the Houfe &odd be informed what
there terms were. The point was certainly a material
Ont. He hoped the Noble Lord would give loch an
anfwer to theft questions, as would resider any mo.
tion from him unnecefrary.
Lord HOWICK exprefied his defire of rendering
every thing relating to this Negotiation as clear and
perfpicuous as peflible, and therefore he had no nb
Jelinn to anfwer the questions. The firth erellion
rarpeeted the interpolation by the French, in she let-
ter of Talleyrand to Mr. Fox, of the seta of March.
The Learned Gentleman &flied. whether there was a
Gentler parrage in any of Talleyrand's letters? To this
be anfwered, that nothing more was received. than
what was contained ice that letter. and that there was
nothing in any of the other letters, bearing the kali
tefemblante to it. The next quellion refpeaed the
letter to Mr. Fox. Rating the bafis on which a Negri.
eiatien world be entered upon. This letter, the
Loomed Gentleman raid, was an meet, and he
wilted to have the whula,.and infinuated that be
meant to make this the fuhjea of a diaina metion.—
The only part of the letter, however, that related at
all to the Negotiation, was given in the Peeve: the
other part of the letter was private. and perhaps he
would tell the Learned Gentleman in revere what it
was, if he chore, but as it was confidential, it was
thought wrong to produce it, as it would evidently
be improper with a view to any future Negotiation.
The Learned Gentleman then elite, whether there
was anyirivate anfwer returned by Mr. Foe to that
letter? The public letter, however, in anfwer to the
public communication of Talleyraud, was all that had
any thing to do with the quertion. He did not cer-
tainly know whether any private anfwer had been
returned—he rather believed that there was, but he
would make inquiry as to that. The next trefli,,n
was, whether there had been any correrpondence be-
tween the French Government and Lord Y_ at mouth
before his fira return from Parir, on the fubjea of
the Negotiation. He believed there hadnot. then
Os to the date of communicAtinn
with Talleyrand, he could not precifely fix the date,
but it mull have been before • the 231 of May, as
Lord Yarmouth that day left Paris, and arrivedis
London on the 4.1) alone. As to the communica-
tion of Lord Yormotih to Mr. Fee of the 13th of
June, he believed that the intelli,;ctice had been given
on the sth or (nth But nothing was done till the
I ith, when it was underflood that D'Oubsil bad been
lent to • by the Ruffian Government. It was
Own thought ?toper to fend Lord Yarmouth to Pa-

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tie, and the MR aneesof Tallimpet's communication
was by him committed to writing on the tech, that
there might be • reeled of it at the office. HeUR
'hie on the lath. The time of his fecond return Mae
to be found in the Papers by looking at the letter of
Lord Lauderdale to Talleyrand of the 57th of Au•
god, which wan received on, the std. Then as to!
the "eireundlancee" alluded to by Lord Lau terdale
which permitted hia,Marjelty in treat feparatele. the l'
principal rsoe, he believed, to be the feel of a treaty
having been concluded by d'Oubril, on the loth of
Pity, after which there could be tub obligation to re-
fit& to treat feparately any longer, as whatever con-
fidence his Majelly's Government might have in the
Bnßisn Government, they could have no moral car•
tainty that this treaty would not be ratited—Hoar /
bra': The neat queftion related to the letter of Kr.
Windham, of the rods of September, where mention
4-4. made of the correfpondeuce at the office, contain•
jog the reafons for defining from the claim op Naples.
As to. this, all that was thought needier y with refpett
to it had been given in the Papers. He Joined the
'Hook therefore would not infill upon more, as it
.wes material to conceal whet was confidential with a
„view to any future negotiation. The Learned Gen•
tleman then sliced, what were the term, upon which
'Baron de tudberg had infilte de Whatever Paper
lend been fent to this country, and to the French Go
nment by Roil', Mindless would not be jufhtied
in expofing it. But the thing was not matertal, for
elm terms might be in a great meafure collefted horn
What appeared on the face of the Papers. The prin-
idpal points on which the Negotiation had broke off
were two—the fecuring of Sicily to his Sicilian Ma
jelly, and the evacuation of Dalmatia by the French.
There were the points chiefly ittfitted upon by Ruffle
—That he had no objediion to Rate. After what he
had Paid, lee fuppeffed the Lensed Gentleman would
• fee any Eapfe for totting for the prodoetion of
the Ruffian Paper. This was all that the nueltions
need to eaU for.
Mr. PERCEVAL obtereed, that if a confidential
communication lied been made to this country by
ROLA, nobody would have thought of calling for it,
bet when this was made the fobjeft of a cotnnrunica-
dem to France, relating to this negeriation, it then
became a different matter. However, he would not
eft ibis point, as be was fatisfied rerpeding the
terms of Baron de Bndbcrg from the Papers, and what
ad been now Paid by his Lirdlisip, As to the ob-
IllePlehnit on Lord Lauderdale's allufion to certain
ailniindbanees that pemaitted his Majefly to treat
rattly, it would appear by a careful intemiaation,
• at there expedient could not tete, to the Ruffian
treaty only, but to fome other circurnflanees. But
he mull Rill perfift in making a dininel motion on
the (object of the meat of the letter to Mr. Fox.
—He would Rate the grounds now, tether than
give a previous notice, if that fhould be agreeable to
his Lot dfkip and the Houfe. [Lord Hnwkk here,
by a gellure, gave him notice that he willies! Isi.n to
proceed.]—The Houfe then would perceive that iffue
had been joined by the two Governments on the truth
of a esel, that though there might be fome difference
as to the force of evidence, yet there c:iuld be no dif.
&tenet as to this, that if Minikes had made his Ma-
jelly Ain its his Dedaration what was not proved,
they as tee highly ceuiutable. The letter, or rather
the extra', was this—[here he read 4.3—This cer-
tainly was an overture on the part of France, as it
dbotained an tetrad from Bonaparte's Ikeda to his
Senate, where lie exprefTed his readinefs to conclude
a peace on the hafts of the Treaty of Amiens. Now,
the words, •• You know upon what hafis", &c. re
feted only to the extra& from the ftteceh, then the
propofed by the French was oat that of the sti
"OW* but that of the Trea.e of Amiens. There-
he wilhed to have the remainder of the letter, in
order to fee whether there words could refer to any
thing elfe. But there was another ground on which
the Houfe had a right to exited this letter to be
produced. The Houfe ought not to pals it over
without the greatefl jealrnify, that private commu-
nications fhould take piace between the Ministers
of two Powers klually at war, where it flionld ap.
pears neceffary for one of them to apologize in the
%Ohs+ for laying a part of his letter before his Sove-
reign. Yet here there was au apology by Mr. Foe
Wrathy:and, for communicating that part of his
latter that related to peace, to his Majesty. And
though all this pars while the war was raging, we
were told that the letter was not to be communicated
to the Honk of Commons. That certainly was mat-
ter for jealoufy, and wet one principal ceufe why he
thought it neceifiry to make a diltinet motion for the
produltion of the whole letter. This he believed
moll be done in the dupe of an Addrefe to his
Majefty.
The motion was then made, and feeorsdAtirt Ur.
Canning.
46-114ev v- pt. .
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Lord'HOWICK did not know as Addrefs
was the mode to come at a private letter which was
nut matter of record. Yet if the letter wits in the
poffcffion of any body, and the Honfe Infilled upon
I', it was the duty of Minillers to produce it. But
withont dwelling on a matter of form, he would
proceed to examine the grounds of the motion. He
perfectly fribfcribed to the fentiments, that if Minifters
made his Majetty affect what was not true, they were
highly cenfurable. The LeAt 'led Gentleman keened
to foppok that this letter would prove whether this
was the cafe or not. Mariners were certainly refpon.
fable for what they made his hirsjelly fay, but he
had no hefitation in declaring that the rent of the
letter did nut in the flighted degree refer to the terms
of peace. He could not politively fey that gentlemen
could not by any ingenuity torture fome cxpreiTions
of civility into an aliulion of this fort, but it certainly
had 'no diimit reference to the fobjeel, any farther
than what appeared its the extrael before the Houfe.
But the Learned Gentleman had gone farther, for
he had Paid, that the Houfe ()tight to view with ex-
treme jealoufy a pirate eirrrefp-ndenee between the
Miniacre of two comities at war. He did not know
what the Learned Geotlerrsan meant to infinuate. If
estivate letters paged between two perform who had
lived in habits of itstimacy, and perhaps of I.me de-
gree of friendlhip, in whicn there might he Ratements
Of }"ease private matters made in confidence to each
other which, related to themfelves only, he did not
know that the one ought to take advantage of the
other, by capofing what was commitnicated in con-
fidence, to general view. He had Slated that the
reit of the letter contained nothing that could throw
additional light on the fubjeft of the negotiation,
and the klovic would judge as to the propriety of

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producing it. He was perfuaded, however, that the
Hoofe, and the Country, and all Europe would be
futiified that whatever private hater, Mr. Fox might
write, there world not bean expreflinn in them that
could compromile the honont of his country. As
to Lord Lauderdale's expreDionr, they did &ern to
refer to lime other circurolltaneta than what he had
already Bated I but be believed that it was owing to
r forne little inaccuracies on the part if his Lordlltip.
The objett was to have the heat& of a joint oegoci
ation in fuhlhance, leaving tholorns to France.
Mr. CANNING raid, that the Noble Lord teemed
to hippie (batik qnellion was as to the Intl overture.
Btu the real point was, whether the balls of the uti
p4detis had been coo6eded by France...as was Bated
in tine Declaration. From the cored it appeared
that the halls propofed by France was tint that of the
eriperidear, bur that of the Treaty of Amiens. The
French had dated on r ther points, but they had'
uniformly petfilled in denying that they had agreedl
loathe barn of the arifteffidetit. On this point, there-
fore, depended the faith of the two Goveinments.
The Hoeft-, therefore, would fee the nectflity of
putting that fa ft on its proper footing. It was the
moll material point of all, and in eomparifun with it
every other was infignificanr.
Lord HOWICK fail that this point would Im
difcofed on Monday, when he would (hew from the
poen', taking them altogether, that the balls of adult!
putfeffion was originally propofed by France.
Mr.SHERIi)AN Paid, that he was furprifed that
the whole letter (hould be called for, when it was
known that it would be a heinous offence in Minifters
to withhold any thing that related to the Negocia.
titan. If there had been any thing elle in this letter
that referred to this, it would of condi have been
produced. If the Learned Gentleman had looked a
little farther, he would have leen that Mr. Fox, in
his anfwer, raid, that he had laid before the King
that parr of the pirate letter which related to peace,
and the balls nn *hitch it might be tlifentfed I anti he
would not have done his ditty jr he had with held
any pats that related to that fubjett
Mr. PE RdEVA L raid that the only abfurdity to
which the Right Hun. Gentleman had btought him
was this, that be hart ftsppofed it pelilbie fur Mini.
hers to have done whit was wrong. He was willing
to give him the full ego* of that argument, and
leave the Matt r siilt the Die ufe, He was not erne
Iccorate with regard to the Papers. What he (Mr.
Percent!) waked to knowwas, whether there was any
reference to a balls different from that which appeared
in the extratEl ? But as the Noble Lord had declared
that there was nothing in the rent of the letter that at
all related to the lubjeft, he would not prcfs his
Motit.n.
Lord YA IthfbiTTFf obferved, thetas the Learned

Gentleman had aficed, whether any communication
had been made to him on the fubjeti of peace, pr eVICNIS
to his converfation with Talleytand before be left
Paris. he witheir to give an explicit anfwer to the
quegion. There had been no previous communication.
The fee was,he believed. that Mr. iros had earneltly
I defiled that he thould be fee at liberty. Being arrived
at Paris, it was probably thought that as he might be
in Initial of friendfhi? with Mr. Fox, he would be
the moll proper bearer of a communication of this
nature. He did bear it, and aCtual polfsflion was
the balls; of ICI he was the more certain, becaufe
Talleyraad bad rejeBed the balls of the Treaty of
Amiens, as it might be the castle of quarrels, and did
! not approve of the Alai quo axle del am for the fame
teafon.• Ha bad nun cover God, that a, there might
be difputes about the balls of uti 141".4tia (imply
f Rated, he would fend come explanatim, rd it, which
he would take care fboulJ arrive about the time that
he (Lord Yarmouth) arrived. This formal cont.
tnunication isetually did arrive on the very day that
he arrive,. The French afterward, fhifted the'
ground, from a jealoufy that we wilheJ not to take
the ;dip/do/ea@ the bans, hat to make the balls
fell the treaty. He did not know whether he was
under flood. (A Cr, of Hear! Near!)
After a few word, !rum Mr. r'iltCl4,lA{. and Lor4
Ymistoorn, in explanation, the motion was witik
drawn.
The Report of the Committee of Aupply was brought up, and
the licf.dtrions agreed to.
On ale Motion of Lonl TRMPI.R, the Houle went Into a
Committee on the Leedom' Adt He propelled Mat fo much of It
as related to the Regratlng of Oak Bark Bonk! be repealed. 'lbis
was agreed N. TM Houle ri (Gibed, and leave was given to
being in a Bill for the abuse purpola...Adjourswel.
THE EVENING STAR'.

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The Hydra tranfpart, with .the fleet that failed
from Plymouth on the 24th of September, with the
Rout. Gaoacta, of t to gum, were in Tetuan Bay
on die lit of November. w.aterivg.

The Latona, of North Shields, has arrived in the
River from Dantrig, ancrwas entered at the Crifl,,ni
Houle yefleidity. The Captain repot,, that when
he left Dantzig, the French were rot more than 15
Engirds miles from that place, which is not thought
to be capable of much refi(lance. We are lorry to
hear, that amnngft a confiderable part of the inha-
bitants, the dilpofition to refill is not In throng as
might have been expeeled—a ciicurrillance which,
indeed, has been mentioned in Come of the foreign
papers. We arc lorry, therefore, that the Profllan
Goiernment fhould throw away the troops neceff,,ry
to garrifon Poch places. It is laid there are 17,000
men in Danzig, under General MANITk IN ; but we
fear they will be of very little (crake in that filtration.