Star.
London, England, 1809-06-20 00:00:00

eal establishment, of which. it had been before assert- House when he made the assertion.. That corps rrtf.l
ed is that House, and he believed most truly, that a feting from any, in England it was necessary should
saving of one-third could be made in the present ex- be supplied as if it was actually in the field. In the
penditure. When such an opinion had been given same manner he had been mistaken with respect to
by agallant officer ( Admiral Markham), in his place, the clothes sent to the Spanish Patriots. Under these
and atter his having adverted to the particular prodi. circumstances such assertions ought not to be made,
gality in the Victualling Department and the Board as however they might inflame the ignorant, he'
of Sick and Hurt, the very Secretary of the Admi- thought them unworthy the consideration of that
ralty acknowledged that the system in those two de. House, and unworthy the Hon. Gentleman who
partments, which cost the country annually five mil- brought them forward. He had given an inco• nsi-
liens, was both vicious and faulty, and that no hope derate pledge (not from a bad motive) which impell-
of reform could be expected until the heads of these ed him to bring forward these complaints,- that those
two departments were removed. There was, there. out of doors might consider his assertion as having
fore, he contended, in that branch of public expendi- some foundation. He had complained of the expences
cure an opportunity for considerable diminution of ex- of the Post-office being double since the timeof Mr.Pal-
pence. Amongst many other parts of that establish- mer ; when it was considered that new Post-offices had
rent, where that diminution could be effected, he was ; been established wherever the interests of the country
authorised to state the supply of canvas for the navy. I might require them (saying nothing of the new takes),
Ile had farther authority to say, that the Inspector of 1 that increase of expense could excite no surprise. An-
that article for the navy was also the supplier, and that 1 other circumstance which he considered as amost glar-
the canvas which he supplied was of the most infamous 1 ing abuse was, that the Inspectors of the Customsrtain had
description, and by the purchase of which the eublic i been increased from seven to ten ;
he was ce
vas a considerable loser. The next point to which he the greatest care had ever been taken to guard against
should allude was the contracts in which Government an unnecessary addition to that establishment. With
engaged for the various parts of the public service. I respect to the expence attending stnnips, amounting
From the best information that he could collect, he i to el 30,000; he wondered he did not undertake to
found that these contracts which were formerly open I save the whole. It was necessary that
.stamps should
and subjected to a fair competition, were now be distributed in every part of the kingdom, and to
close and limited to particular individuals. Ofl do tht without expence was impossible. When they
these contracts respectivdy he should hope, in I :ntended reducing the allowance to the distributors no
the next Session, to state his precise views, and he ' one would keep his place, and the order was obliged
would then particularly claim the attention of the Ito be reluctantly recalled. Receivers of taxes till the
House to •he mode which has teens ractised relative 4 year before last, were allowed 2d. in the pound, bat
to the contracts for supplying beef nd pork, Scc. At I since that has been reduced to three halfpence. The
present he should only state the one circumstance, 'i balance of £6OOO, left in their hands, he maintained,
that the Contractor for Grains at Deptford purchased I was necessary to answer the demands made on them.
for ls. 6d. from the brewery, that which he after- The whole of the per tentage amounted to 2,800,0001.
wards retailed to the Navy for 4s. 10d. The Hon. They ought to considew what was done for the sums
Member next adverted to the vase arrears, which he , received. The Inspectors of Customs not only collected
stated at twenty millions, which was every year left I the revenue, but rendered other services to the public.
unaccounted for, without any balance being struck. As to Scotland, it could not be expected that the
If such an arrear was suffered in private life, the in. taxes could be collected in a country thinly inhabited,
dividual so suffering it would, at least, be a loser by as they were in England. The sum paid for collecting
a twentieth part. When a Noble Lord (Henry Petty) could not be regulated by the amount of the sum of
was Chancellor of the Exchequer, he had partied- levied, but by the labour and difficulty attending the
lady dwelt upon the ruinous tendency of such a sys- toilecting. In Scotl.md it was necessary to allow 41.
tem, and had then calculated the amount of money ;Ms. 9d. per cent. The Honourable Gentleman, in
due to the public, or unaccounted for, at four hundred his usual arbitrary manner, at once asserted it might
millions. The counti7 had a right to expect that be reduced to three. \Vhy did he not say to two ?
such an enormous sum should be, in some way or Since the last Ministers were in office, it had been
other, disposed of, in order that it might ascertain found necessary to increase the salaries of a number
what it had a right to expect. The Hon. Member, of officers, in all amounting to 140,0001. per annum.
after some general observations upon the impossibi- He deprecated the conduct of the Honourable Gen-
lity of arriving at the particular details at the public tleman in setting such rumours afloat, knowing as be
expenditure, concluded with moving— did, what pains would be taken to circulate among
That there be laid before the House an Account of the Anneal the ignorant assertions even destitute of common
Exper.ce of the Staff Corps for the last three years up to the sth sense. In every civilized country, the taxes were
of January last ; together with a statement of the Services in
were for the said time employed. • . greater in proportion than in this. In France, light
which they
Mr. HUSKISSON said, the Honourable •Getitle- as their taxes appeared, they were greater, compared
with the means of the persons w
man seemed to consider it his duty to come forward ho were to pay them,
on the last night of the Session, to make a chew of ,than in England. After further controverting the
saving the country 11,000,0001. and by disseminating statements of the Honourable Gentleman, and ten-
raving
an idea, excite discontent in the country by stain g his conduct in making such assertions rash and
raising public expectation so high, that it could not Unfounded as• they were in fact, he concluded an able
be satisfied. The Honourable Gentleman had spoken and argumentative speech.
as if he would not have come forward, had he not Mr. WARD .remarked that the Inspector of can-
as
challenged and defied to prove the truth of tbe vas was paid by the piece. He had been a iealer in
assertion he had made. It was rather extraordinary canvas, but was so no longer. If the. Hon. Gentleman
that he, a guardian of the interests of the public, should would come to the Adrniraltc to-morrow, and prove
tot think it hiswhile ti.gountrT his assertion, the Inspector would be dismissed.
11,000,0001. worth
ss chall to save
engede to prove Mr. PARNELL thought Mr. Wardle justified it
annually, unle
the assertions he had made were not without founds- bringing ftrward his motion at the close of. the Ses-
tion. Perhaps the Hon. Gentleman was afraid he sion, and spoke generally inlaveur of a retrenchment
should not come in time with his statements, Whe of expenditure.
did not seize the present opportunity, as various other Mr. HUSKISSON explained. • •
statements equally ingenious, and brought forward Mr. ROSE did not think it necessary to take up the
ti
with equal confidence by their respective authors, me of the House, after the lucid statement of his
Hon. Friend. Bat with regard to the bounties, a great
were in circulation. He (Mr. Huskisson) remem-
deal of what was so called were positive drawbacks,
bared seeing a book which contained a plan for
saving to the country no less a sum than 20,000,0001. Which if stopped would, in the first place, expose to
lly. poverty and misery 30,000 weavers of Spitalfields,
annua
had besides destroying much of the comforts and conve-
man not enlarged his scheme, it was easily He wondered the Honourable Gentle-
niencies of seamen and others. It was utterly im-
done. He had said take off 500,0001. here, .and
ossible that £lOOO could be saved in this way, with-
-500,0001. there, why he might quite as well have said, p
take off 81,000,000. It would not be a very difficult out infinite mischief.
task to change the figures, and to save one was as Mr. MAR RYATT represented, that the merchants
practicable as to save the other. The Honourable were extremely anxious to have more officers in the
Gentleman had learned, that the national expen- customs rather than to have the numbers diminished.
diture had increased from 71,000,000 to 79,000,000, As to the West India Commissariat, and army eitra-,
and thence inferred, the 11,000,000 might be saved. ordinaries, great improvements had beeti made in these
A loan had been raised, as while the war continues, respects, by the present Ministers.
cue eventually must. Another great expense was Mr. H. THORNTON observed, that a saving had
been already made from tke Bank, all the saving that
incurred by paying a debt to the East-India Corn-
pany. He did not suppose he could have saved that. could be made in consistency with the Act of Parlia-
The increased expences of our Navy amounted to a meat, ensions and sinecures, he himself was
As to p
million and a half. Need he tell Ulm how greatly of opinion, that the sum might be diminished, but at!
the expences of the navy were increased, how greatly the same time, he did not think that the saving could
the prices of hemp, pitch, tar, and all naval stores had be very material. He admitted, however, that there
risen; were the whole of the circumstances attended i were points in the Hon. Gentleman's speech that de-
to by the House, they would not be at a loss to judge I served consideration, especially that respecting the
of the cause of such an increased expenditure, though auditing of the public accounts.
when a Gentletran came forward and roundly stated Mr. WARDLE declared, that he had no intention
the expenditure had risen from 2€71,000,000 to of making any comparison between the mode of col-
ier„000,ovo it might at first excite surprise. In lecting the taxes here and in France. As to the In-
every part he could show reasons equally cogent spectorship of canvas, he would make it his business
to account for such an increase, but he thought to examine into the affair as soon as possible.
he should not well occupy the attention of the House ' The several motions for Papers in various branches
of expenditure, adverted to in the Hon. Gentleman's
by giving a set ef counter statements (and nothing ,
else could he give). It was true if the army were speech, were then read.
and Mr. HUSKISSON
:educed the sum voted for their support would ter- Lord CASTLEREAGH
nly be smaller. If our cavalry were reduced from objected to several, as being stated in sucha way as
tai
0,10 to 15,000 something might certainly be saved to render it impossible to comply with them. The
28
!o the country. But it should first be ascertained latter suggested, that the best plan would be to leave
that our army is too large ; such a departure from it to Ministers to make up the accounts according to
an established system as this question involved in it the scope of the motions, in the best manner they
could ; and if the returns were not satisfactory, the '
see :pia not to have been brought up on the last night
.: t"
of tine Session. Against such a procedure he felt it Honoueable Gentleman might renew his motions next
Session.
his duty to enter his protest. Adverting to what the
Mr. WARDLE assented to this, and all the mo-
Honourable Gentleman had said with respect to 1
foreign corps, he aid not think they deserved to be tions were agreed to.
LordCei CAST. LEdßEAdGsall.presented a Return of the Offices in
spoken of as he had spoken of them ; he justified the II
the
,re en the table,
policy and propriety of taking them into our servicemoved for a Return ache Livings in Scot-
, 1
Mr. ;sac.
and thought, that instead of having reposed too much EvrAl
; land and Ireland under the value of Xl5O a year.—Orderdd.
confidence in them, they had been too often the ob- Mr. DUNDAS moved, for an Estimate of Expences in India,
! with the Debts due in India to the Company.—Ordered.
.sects of suspicion and mistrust. He would not waste
.1- Lord CASTLEREAGH moved, that the Bill passed by the
time in following the Honourable Gentleman through
Lords
for preventing the enlisting f Local Militiamen into t' e
all his details, but as in one instance he thought he Regular Militia of Counties different from their own, be read a
had made a mistake, he felt it his duty to clear it first time. It was accordingly read a first and second time, com-
-..p. The Commissariat of Ireland he had statedread a third time to-morrow.
• mitted, reported, and ordered to be
:tam,.
Gardner,
rioastkweod
why refractory e . Accountants,Gardn ee
art.
cost the country 95,0001. a-year. The impression 1
made on the' House by such an assertion was that it witentore° an°
' called upon by the Auditors since Mr. Woodford had quitted
.vas enormous. But he could state that including ' the country ? •
every thing it did not cost the nation more than Mr. HUSKISSON observed, that he had no doubt the Audi-
-22,0601. He could guess what had led the Hon. , ton had done what was s proper. He
subject at
requested the Honourable
lee
Gent. into this mistake, he had united with it the corps eentlieni
House....rmi to mengdtioat
threeglgecit. the next rneetiag of h
of waggoners, but that was not understood by the •

Tilt tVEI•TING STAR.

LONDON.

• : TUESDAY, JUNE 20.
PRVIE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Sous. bar July 49.1-i—Redueel 68{—Oninium f i prom
hache. Bills. 6s. ts. pr.
PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY.
S per Ott. Red. 684 • India Stock shut
S per Cent. Cons. shut Excheq. Bills, 4s. 111.91. pre.
4 per Cent. 834 Onsnium pre.
5 per Cent. shut Consols for ace. 69ff •

•
Yesterday, after our paper was put to press, a Mail
from Heligoland arrived at the Post-Office, brought
to Harwich by the Lady Frances packet, Captain
RL'TTER. By this conveyance the following article
was received :
BANKS OF THE ELBE, JUNE s.
The Austrian head-quarters are, according to pri-
vate accounts received this morning, at Lintz.
The. Emperor FRANCIS previous to the battle of A -
pern, received proposals from Napoleon to conclude a
truce on certain conditions,which overture lie instantly
forwarded to the Archduke Charles, who returned it
with the following note
" BROTHER,
" Take my Marshal's staff from me, and let me
rather know the Austrian name no more, nor your's,
but let me retire with my:brothers to Hungary !"
The Duke of Valmy ( Kellerman) has, it is said,
received orderi to Prussia.
Another lettet of the same date from th- Banks of
the Elbe contains the following paragraph :
" In the late great•battle of Esling, BONAPARTE,
in the heat of action, finding the, cavalry and infantry
give way, ordered the cannon to be planted in their
rear. In his vehemence he loaded the horse and
foot with the most opprobrious invectives. Nearly
10,000 Frenchmen are said to have been drowned in
the Danube."
By, this conveyance a private letter has been re-
ceived, which gives a more particular detail of the
loss of the French in the battle of the 21st and 22d
June, than any we have before seen. The letter
alluded to is dated Varel the 11th inst. and states
the victory of the Archdnke Charles at Aspern to have
been most complete. The French lost 30,000 killed
and wounded, 28,000 prisoners, 45 Eagles, and
among them 5 belonging to the guards, all their
ammunition, baggage, and artillery ; 9 Generals,
17 Colonels, 360 Officers taken, Lasnes and Oudinot
mortally wounded, Massena slightly, and 3 generals
killed.
The same letter adds, that a report had just arrived
of the Austrians having gained a second battle at
Laxenberg ; but gives no date nor any particulars.
Other letters state, that the Prussian army, consist-
ing of 45,000 men, is in motion ; that the advanced
gaud has already reached Sprattaii, on the frontiers
of Silesia ; and that the main body is at P-eitz.
know not what degree of credit to attach to this state-
ment.

The letters florn Heligoland are of the 15th, and
those from liamburgh of the Oh The former state
positively that the gallant Colonel &HILL iS not dead,
and that advice had been received from.Lubec of his
having, effected his escape with a great part of his
brave followers, to Rugen, which island be was em-
ployed in putting into the best state of defence, and
where he doubtless will receive all practicable aid
from the British cruizers in the Baltic.
FRENCH AND DUTCH PAPERS.
AUGSBURG, MAY 29.
The gent d'arrnes of the imperial guard, as well
as the depots of the grenadiers and mounted dra-
goons of the guard, arrived here yesterday. This
fine troop, forming about 1800 men, set out this mor-
ning for Austria.

MUNICH, MAY so.
The Austrian Generals Prohaska, Bauer, and F:oli-
bel, arrived here to-day with 54 other Austrian Offi
cers, prisoners of war. Our journals contain several
particulars, which prove the patriotism of the Bava-
rian people : amongst others, we have the following
instance of the faithful zeal of the inhabitants of Neu-
bourg, on the Danube, who, seeing a column of 4000
i Austrian prisoners on the point of escaping from the
Wurtembtirghers who escorted them, immediately
took arms, and forced the Austrians to submit.
DRESDEN, MAY 24.
A small corps, commanded by the Duke of Bruns-
wick Oels, attempted- to penetrated into Saxony by
Zittau. His designs were not known, but he re-
turned into the interior of Bohemia without under-
taking any thing. It is believed that the 1,- ti. events
at Vienna have prevented his progress. His corps,
however, consisted only cf 3000 men ; and the Saxons
_under the command of General. Dyhen, were pre-
I paring to meet it, when they learned that it had re-
treated.
According to the last accounts from the Duchy of
Warsaw, of date the 18th, the Archduke Ferdinand
was in full retreat,• and the Russian army was only
, two days march from Warsaw.
A Polish Officer, M. Pothcki, has rassed through
this city. He left Vienna on the 14th, and is the
bearer of letters from the Major-General for Prince
Poniatowsky. He will find the Prince at Cracow.
The emigration of the inhabitants of Bohemia has
ceased for some days. They hope that the war will
not be long, and they wish the arrival of the French.
The Saxon army was on the 17th at Lintz, and was
marching on Vienna.

. •