Star.
London, England, 1831-09-29 00:00:00

' The gallery was cleared fur a division on this ropeeltiso.
' • The numhen wen—
Are
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Non , • .. . 70 .
• Nakedly ... ... 5
Bin eedered to be mod a snood time on Friday.
r. SIIIPPLT.
The house resolved loaf into a committee of supply.
Mr. & RICE psoposed a grant of 163,0001. co account
lit the weeks at Windsor Cud, and Buckingham palace.
• Mr. JAMES said. if-be meld be surprised at any thing,
Ibis proposition ameidebed him. A reformed Have would
lever sanction such extravagant and worse than foolish ex.
podbure. It was worthy of the rofilgacy of the House of
9101111.—(Order I) He had the tight to express his opinion,
and be would declare that a moms Sovereign than George
W. whose life was now matter of history, never sat on
*Ma if Blend. He repeated, he had not expected that
such lisellob end prodigate expenditure would be continued.
Iloisnel SIBTHORP 'Unproved of the expenditure—
but while he .lived be would never my any thing disre.
quettul of the memory of the late Sovereign. (Loud
~) They had been premised the most sparing ex.
penditure.• He should oppose this grant, es not being of
say public benefit.
Mr. :PROT MOOR supported the grant—it was to
defray debt—and that which had been expended by the late
Adminimenden. "The works were requisite to restore
IS Medias i not for the accommodation of the King,
fee his y had, after all that had been expended,
nut* au t room for himself and family. The King
of England was-without residence suitable to him.
Colonel TRENCH hoped that liberal means would be
sepplied to contribute to what was a national objer—the
metontion of Windsor Castle. The expenditure, homes
improvident it might have been had, let it be recollected,
mooed debt to tradesmen, artisans, &c. and that ought to
be defrayed. Buckingham Talmo be theight. might be.
usefully applied to was peels ether tine a reit.
deem n,r wydrry, add thus reline eislMsteee frets ea sm
ewe a burden. The committesZirm Me empldoettlee
she question, whether it might to some
*be useful purpose.. King's 041Plejillitedtt he advaa.
lissomly tromferred to I and As, esw
bedding at Somerset Hoilailetrire- ally etteded le
lean offices at that pine. • •
Mr. J. WOOD said, this enormous and profligate cope
-
Men had actuaHr been incurred, and by the late Adenlnis.
Wisp I the present ministers hat nothing at 41 to do with
it. As to Buekingham.house, It was an unsightly and dia-
. scaodalout - -

o'o%l object ; It bed boss • . mists of the
sable money. The debts, hoverer, were incurred, and
elkiever he might think of the disgraceful expenditure
awe could be no.doubt 'bout the propriety of paying
*eh Out of one Item charged for furniture for Windsor
ciNis, the Committee had struck out a sum of 26,0001-
OM. heat.)
dlnel TRRNCH said, it was quite impossible that
Illeaklnghtun Palace could be useful as • Ro was residence—
the basetnent front was under water. If it thought of
imillog it a residence for a Royal Family, an expenditure of
ai hen 600,0001. more would be requital.
Mr. ROBINSON rentarktel. e
diatTionsly to the
eiturrooss and scandaloas meanie* b incurred, they
were not allowed to say any thing about e works, other-
wise It might have been Inevented. Set now they could
not examine it, for they were told, In Meet, that the pay-
ment of thus debts was requisite to resew tradesmen from
ruin. He believed that was not exactly the cue. The ex-
penditure had contributed large profits to contractors and
particular individuals; env person having had a per cottage
on the expenditerei whether beildbils PRIM &was or re*
construtiog—the per moues imidwaye Pillar Would
say further expenditure be sevind blood w was now
asked

Lord A LTHORP assent that the debts sassily due to
tradesmen amounted to ISKONL Ow dui t of which
the strongest repessentatiant bad bean anode. There bad
been expended on liklingbem Pekes 77,001 L if it were to
be dubbed, 70.01ilearrold be 'squired; but the matter was
under the consideration of .tie committee. The greater part
of the amount required* Ankh the works at Windsor lead
been expended.
Mr. HUME said a more Important grant had never bees
brought forward at a few bears' notice. It would not be
deems to pram it forward in this way. As to the extern*
sant expenditure, tits eit.ChenceDat of the Exchequer sad
the other late ministers ought to be impeached fat k. Ha
LiK
was sorry that the late ministers amid act be male to
the talismans' bills. This vote coast to be
What be should prqpose was, that the sawn alp
posed of to defray such expenditure. (Hear.) ' bmw.,
ever, not wait for the sommitures teflon on these . ?
He repeated it was not decent to press this vote now.
hoped it would be postponed.
Kr. BRISCOS said understood the essAinatileif tbs'
Hon. Memba for Middlesex to be, that be by se
to allow the produced defray tbe debts, as sees me=
manta. were He did not think that these
or returns would make them mach wiser, and he wwltbum
profaned that the accounts alitiald be ail siessk used aam
allowed sufficient to clear the claims 1 kW he Me air=
of the opinion of the Het. Member, that the sons 01
should be raised, not Ora the pashas Otis pssjile, eke*
too much °present w*unme but from die sale of a,
portion of the seism of Wasik sad Fansta. He would alp:
pit that the grant badaissid anill the report of the Cia.
mince now sitting, be. up.
Mr. WILES 'llquthtion of the debt milk
not to be entailed oak= MM O
Mr. S. RIC& bt midi that the present On
remnant was eased a sknadoh peculiarly painful";
tradesmen had bees employed beam they (the pans. mina
try) came into the Tresenly, en tbe authority of aim of
ths amen. who were in eituadems, whims antbseities *sat
pet to be doubted a and ins WA mime of thaw, in mater
queue of delay, bees phased en the bask amis. One awn
Who bad invented the apparatus he' bunttg4avt.....
buildings bad invested all his papa, is Pa.
lace. and the apparatus was In use sway dab and fact was
Mil=m a swan of public expeeditme. This
g miters, made repeated applitatimwomd=alleen,
like the rest, pool& and at length rained to extremity, be
had aims with the last of his property in pawnbrokers du.
plicates, and hi such a state that ministers considered thins.
selves warranted In awarding him 1001. in charity from in
public purse. It was to get rid of these heart.rendin sp.
peals, and to perform an act of justice to those individuaki,
that ministers had been induced to call upon the house fee
the grant.
Mr. C. PF.LHAM opposed the motion.
Mr. C. FERGUSON thought the debts contracted might
to be discharged.
Mr. HUNT saline would never vote for the grant, as be
considered it a prodipate expenditure.
,Mr. J. MARTIN said he would vote for this sum i but
In would not be prepared to vote fa any future grant of the
same kind.
~
Mr. HUNT eitpd.
A
kap conversstiio arose out of the debate relating to the
;Wes college. .;
Mr. JAMBS thought that -those who bad contracted the
dikes should-13001v pay them ; and if thep damn they
might, perhaps, learn what it was to be imprisoned for debt.
g
.—(A lauh.) •.-
After a few obsenratiens from Mr. Hums, Lord Az.-
Urn a r, and other's, the Committee divided—
For Mr. Humes amendment

... 12
.« 110

Against it . ...

• - Majority 98
OR est return the question before the house was " that
the Chairman ask have to sit again."
Mr. HUME oemplaised that thd Chairman bad put the
question so hastily,. that hb Hon. Frkad (Mr. James) had
not been ableto move the amendment which be had Intl.
mated be intended moving.
The CHAIRMAN appealed to the bows whether he
had acted improperly.
Several Hon. Members expressed their satisfaction with
the conduct of the Chairman.
Colonel TRENCH asked whether it was the intention
of Government to Nll down the King's Mews at Charing
Cross For 30,000 L it 'night be made a very respectable
building.
Lord ALTHORP'S answer was not beard In the gallery.
Colonel TRENCH expressed his satisfaction with the

The House resumed. Report to be received to-morrow,
and the house to resolve Itself into the same Commktee on
Friday next.

tutus nitruttna ACT.
Air. P. THOMSON moved that the report of the Com-
mittee on the sugar reining act be romietd.
w Mr. BURGS cantended that the ad by aleOlUAlbeg the
produce of foreign supr,woold hiatus the foreign alive
nide, contrary to the inuninipal law, aid to the reaoludons
paned at the ammo et Vetoes sod Virus, by which the
loaner* bound changeless to otter every dioanuigrmeot to

that Ueda, and contrary to the interest of the British plan. I
ter. Hosseseed 'into seam details respeetiog the increase
wbkh had of lase taw plea in the trade of slaves by fo.
reigners. He emended that the act opened the British
market to hada sego', and adverted to the Increase in the
inn wb of that sugar dace the present act had been in ope-
rat, as proving the n
oted hi foreigners must
derive frame it. He knplored government not to treat
lightly representations of the West India interest. The
m the planters had now reached such an extent that
onetonal Written must prove their ruin, (hear,) or
oblige them to separate themselves from the Mother coun-
try. He concluded with moving, that a Select Committee
be appointed to inquire how far the permission to refine
sugar in this country was opposed to the interests of the co-
lonies, and an encouragement of the foreign slave trade.
Mr. P. THOMSON opposed the motion. Be main-
tained that the honourable member bad failed to show
that the measure would be injurious to the colonies,
increase the consumption of foreign sugar, and encourage
the foreign slave trade. He admitted ;bat the West
India Proprktors had not consented to allow the to
fining of sager In London en a large sale; but he
thought they ought to allow the Bill to be brought in that
the House might see its details. It, in fact, was ably
the revival of an old act of parliament ; and its prin.
ripte had been frequently recognised, that of allowing
the introdection of the raw material to be manufactured
at home. Very little sugar was refined where It was
grown ; then might it not be as well to manufacture
it at the Isle of Dogs, for Instance, as at Amsterdam. The
West Indies possessed advantages, and he intended that the
Bill should not effect them. He contended that the price
elf foreign sugar could not be Increased by this meesnre, and
be also maintained that it would not be to ensoutege the fo.
reign slave trade to extend the means of empleybg British
capital in the sugar trade. In the British trobillrlut there
were embarked between two and three maim et capital t if
there were not more than 200,1111111. and IYIWAL would the
West India proprietors trust dm to tit eaSsot they did ?
He owned he was much surprised at the. maiden to this
measure, which came from the greatsoletiew.kr,
shipping. Here was a measure, the tendency of MUM was
to benefit British shipping, and yet it was resisted. This
measure would lead to the employment of many hundred
thousand tons of British shipping annually. Would
not that be a benefit ? Why grant the Committe ? To
concede it would defeat the Bill. It would only re-open the
inquiry carried on before the Board of Trade, sod could only
lead to the same result, namely, to recommend that the
measure should be adopted as an experiment. And in the
meantime this measure would be hung up. He should resist
the proposition.
Mr. GOULBURN said be must support the motion;
he thought inquiry ought to precede she measure now pro- ;
posed (hear, hear)—and the dilliculties of the Right
Honourable Gentleman, who had =addend that hives.
tigations before the Board of Trade were Asite, were
arguments in favour of the Committee. (Hese, hear,
hear.) So important a change eaght not to be
adopted without the fullest investiption. Was it
not desirable that they should ascertain whether an selves.
me was Dot to be given to one party at the expense of an.
ether ?—( Hear.) The argument that the enquiry would de.
lay the Bill, ought not to weigh with the House, for the
measure ought not to have been delayed till there was not
time for inquiry, without impeding the Bill.
Iced A LTHORP had no objection to inquiry, it had
been before offered on lord Chandos's motion t what he ob-
jected to was the adoption of any thing that would delay
this. measure. It was only asked as a temporary Bill, and
fir one year :—inquiry there might be, but let this Bill
proceed.—( Hear.) Let the elm
_imest proceed.
Mr. R. GORDON raid he &mai oppose the adoption of
this experimental bill without inquiry. The bill would be
mimes.
After a few words from Mr. Hums. Mr. Robinson, /U.
the house divided, when there appeared—
Foe the motion 113
Against it .. 125

Majceyy

After some obserratioits from Mr. Burge. Sir F. Burdett,
Keith Douglas, and Lord Altherp, the report was brought
up, sod seda.W to be received. The remind.= were then
agreed to,and a bill founded thereon ordered to be brought in.
The orders of the day having been disposed of, the house
adjourned at half.past two o'clock.

LIST OF THE 'MINORITY OF M,

Who voted oar the nth Mitre,bor kr the eminent of
a Select Committee to Minim to the ahlomasmens of
the treatment of Mr. and Mn.s Demi. and Imo the am-
duet of the Magistrates at Whale...an
Blackney, W. Pilkimay, P. St. Johm
Baring, Mr T. O'Cilellen, D.
Baring, A. DiCamBll. M.
Bering. H. B. firma% R. IL
Baring, F. T. Iledhvos, Z. &
.llwan, W. Shell, R.
batten, I. itimaley, E. G. .
(!rattan, H. Thiamin, B.
Haney, D. W. Bases, J.
Hodges, T. 1.. Woo°, W. H.
Hunt, H. Wood, J.
APII9OO. C, Walker, C. A.
James, W. Wyse, T.
Lambert, H. Wilke, J.
Leferre, C. 8. TILLIIIII.
Macdonald, Slr J. Bert. Hume, J.
llaagrave, Sir R. Evans, Col. de Lacy
For the Inqalry, 31 1 Against Inquiry', 78 I Msioeity, 47.

LIST OF THE MINORITY OF 12,
Who, In Committee of Supply. voted with Mr. Hume to
BiriESthe Voss of 1161,070, for Windsor Castle end
lam House.
,I. Rider, T.
Remit'', T. Sibthorp, Colonel
Dick, Q. Torras, Colonel
James, W. Walker, J.
Hunt. H. Wilke, J.
Pelham, J. Cresset TILLti.
Paget, T. Hume, J.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.

PARIS JOURNALS-BY EXPRESS.

The Gazette trAwgsboury states, that the Duke
of Hesse Cassel will renounce the sovereign power
for an unlimited time, in favour of his son.
The King of Prussia is inconsolable at the revo-
lution of Neufchatel : his Majesty finds himself
reduced to Dutch cheese.—Figare.
PIMPIONAN, SIFT. 15.—Since the late die-
, orderi, of which this city was the theatre, nothing
lhas more troubled public order. However, all the
Cafés are closed at ton o'clock in the evening, by
order of the authceities. Six dragoons had refused
to charge the people during the late troubles t they
were put in prison, and have just been sent, under
an escort, to Carcassonne, where their regiment is
quartered.

A report was comsat this morning, in the offices
of the war department, that M. de Festamel, co-
lonel of the municipal guard of Paris, had been
promoted to the rank of general, for his conduct in
the recent events.—Revolution.

Letters from Versailles state that the National
Guards, believing that the conduct of Government
exposes France to civil war, and to a third and
terrible invasion, are preparing an address to the
King, demanding the dismissal of the Ministry,
and the abolition of the shameful system of the
restoration, which weighs upon France, and renders
her contemptible." We have little doubt that every
department of France will follow the example so
nobly set by the patriots of Versailles.—Rena
lotion.

They write from Germany that France cannot
take too many precautions upon her frontiers
which are neighbouring to the Prussian Provinces;
it is very certain that it is by Prussia the cholera
will be communicated. Prussia ha country where
the government talks, prints much, and does no-
thing, especially nothing which costs money. The
journals are filled with details of minute u. 1
tions which are taken to Meet the malady, and

not any are taken ; the government will nu
preserve the provinces of the Rhine than it ha s'
served those of the Oder. Already the
journals affirm that the sanitary cordons are of as
use, as if they had not the memorable exam*
Austria, which since two months has preyereei
from spreading the most dismal contagion stied,
has ever existed in Europe ; but Austria says no.
thing and does much, whilst Prussia says muci
and does nothing, whence follows the consequi TI(P
that the North of Europe is infinitely more exp....,1
than the South.—Gazette de France.
The following propositions have been made, it
is said, by M. Deriul, commander of the place, to
recompence the seal of the regiments of mei).
in the late movements of the capital. The reti.
monis of chasseors, three propositions of the crow,
Ist Carabineers, the same proposition. Fertile,,
two propositions of advancement for each f:f th,
corps. The 6th hussars share better : for it there
are eighteen propositions of recompenses. It isail
labour lost ! The morality of the army will nyt
allow itself to be subjugated by the care4ses of
power. It may make some friends in the reg,.
manta, it will excite much jealousy, and the so!.
dier and ender officer will demand : Why the.
recompenses ? Where will that why coodu,t
them ?—Do what they can, the souvenir of th,
barricades is eternal.—Revolution.
Some days since, the Moniteur announced tlet
several foreigners having I een arrested in the last
troubles, the Government was about taking met.
sures, which the law furnished it, to remove from
the capital all such persons, if circumstances be-
came such as to render such a measure suitable.—
We know not how to explain such a determina-
tion, if it is not by the hatred which the Ministry
has vowed to all friends of liberty, for from the h-
formation which we have received from several
refugees themselves, it is false to say, that any
Spanish, Portuguese, or Italian refugees have been
arrested. It is not enough for the men in power
to have abandoned out brothers of Italy and Spain,
after having excited them to throw off the yoke
under which they groaned, it required also that
they should be pursued into the land of exile. Such
is the manner in which the Ministers of the Citi-
zen King understand liberty.--Tribune.
Our editor, M. Anthony Thouret, brought to-
day before the Judge of Instruction,vras subjected
to the following interrogation :—The Judge. You
are accused of having committed an offence to-
wards the person of the King, by inserting in the
Revohttion of Saturday last, an article containing
the following phrase :—" Louis-Philippe, at his
accession to the throne, obtained the esteem of
the partisans of Napoleon, by pledges on the sub-
ject of the ashes of St. Helena, but soon the
illusion was destroyed, and those promises Bed
with those of the Hotel-de-Ville." M. Anthony
Thouret—lt is not to my personal knowledge that
official promises were made by the King on the
subject of the ashes of Napoleon ; that seems the
result only of conversations amongst the people,
and at the Polais Royal ; but as to the promises of
the Hotel-de-Ville, history says that Louts-
Philippe has forgotten them. The Judge—Thus
you renew in that reply the offence towards the
person of the King, by insinuating that the pro-
mises of the saloon, as well as those of the Hotel-
de-Ville have been trampled under foot ! M.
Anthony Thouret—l maintain certainly the suer-
Con ; it is not my fault, if the offence towards
the person of King Louis-Philippe results from
positive facts.—Revolution.
The following dialogue will sum up in a striking
manner the situation of the two parties in France.
The Juste-Millers.--We will maintain peace; sae
will prevent the return of Henry V. and we will
continue the doctrinary system of the restoration
to avoid anarchy. The Patriots.—But the revo-
lution was made against that doctrinary restoration.
If you expect to maintain it, you will reduce all to
a question of persons, and we shall have fought
solely to give you places. The Jute-Milieu.—
If you are allowed to proceed, you will make us a
Republic : you will give us civil war, universal
war, and France divided into so many parties,
will sink under foreigners. The Patriots.—But to
continue that system,the legitimacy would have been
better, and you would not have had tumults at
Paris, and risings in the west. Yon cannot find
order in principles which you do net realise. The
sovereignty of the people is proclaimed; give us
then primary assemblies. The Jests Milieu—Bet
the primary assemblies will bring back Henry V.
which we do not wish more than you. The Patriots
—Give us at least portfolios, for without us you will
do nothing; it is the Hotel-de-Ville which has
done all. The Atte Milieu—But if we bad not
taken power, and announced that we would coats-
nue the restoration, Europe and France would
have overthrown you. The Patriots—We have
the tumults. The Jute Milieu—We have the
army. Thus we see, the two parties are in a vi-
cious circle ; both are right, as one against the
other ; both are wrong as against France.—Gazette
de France.

ITALY.

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At Ferrara they imprison, under the auspices of
the Aestrian garrison, the liberals to whom amnesty
was granted, or those who had received employ-
ment from the revolutionary government; sod it
is under these same auspices that we daily see new
forces augment the regiment of the Pope, emo•
mended by Zamboni, and destined to march upon
Bologna. Chance has just revealed the true
cause of, the death of the Advocate Borelli,
the companion in punishment of Menotti. At
the restoration of the Ducal power in the State
of Modena, the Duke, was at his Cbesteau of
Canto, and was heard to say that be had imp
noised Borelli. It was believed that it was Borelh.
the physician, who suspected as a Csrbonan, had
emigrated in 1821, and to whom, before the late
revolution, the Duke had granted pardon. in his
puma' , he wrote to Zerbini, the President of the
Tribunal Staterio, that Borelli should be hanged;
and he was. Such is the justice rendered by th'
Judges, named by the Duke of Modena. And this
takes place in the 19th century I—Constitstionnci
We have announced in a clear and plain ma-
nor, that it was Bing Louis Philippe who gale
the Spaniards the first succours in money. We
have declared that be had distributed one hundred
thousand francs to the former Spanish Committer.
We expected that the Monitear would expo
9= that point. The Moniker says not a seed
flr'i body will understand this silence. But the.
hared de Paris, in au article, the flat ness el
which does not disguise the embarassment, 113'
thrown out the word calumosg. We have advanced
a fact, a certain fact, If that Journal insists, re