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of private noinitm. but it was his enneeientions belief
'his c.tneederacy o 1 eentkoien of the House of Commons
4.'" ll'r Immo*e of baiting a ministry into their views, was
nett o-ly unitot but unconstitutional. The sphere for mem-
bers of narlia—ent were the houses to which they belonged. At
of the meetine* to which he shaded the noble earl
timed in a most candid dignified manner. highly becoming
his stnt;nr. as Prime Minister of England, but at a second
me. tier! the donee was larnentebk. The noble earl
heelere. a hoed p•seeman. As he understood. they pro-
.ea .0 'eke the urns from the yeomanry of Ireland, and
e'.tett them tinder the controul of the Lord Lieutenant, ass
I at his d'sposel. Those Melt-minded men would
VtT ennwent to eneh a measure, anti therefore they might
he I-moldered is disbanded if the Government should ados
t'n• en.er.,.. The noble earl eulogised the conduct of the
ye...t00-or of Ireland, and impressed upon the noble earl the
hirtiAin if •hre should be deserted by Government, and
thrown tenon 'he mercy of thane whore comity they had in.
c treed by lining their duty. la the north of Ireland where
they were centrally Protestants, the measure would be met
with a feeling of contempt. There was no law to may they
.b surd rot he yeomen. and yeomen they would be. In the
snub of Ireland. where the Protestants were few, the effect
wonld he irtimidstion. The Protestants were universally
veoroco. anti when they found themselves abandoned by the
Government they would fl, and become exiles. The noble
roe! coneludeti hr melting whether it was true that the Go-
vernment had et-emoted to make the important changes to
which he ha" Abided?
rad GREY agreed with the Noble Rarl that nothing
round he mere objectionable than private communication on
matters which ought to be the subject of public discussion ;
and such proceedings never had or should have his &n-
-th/oil. The Noble Earl had been pleased to refer to two
comteunications which bad taken place on the subject of
Ireland. and the Noble Earl had expressed his di.approba-
than of Members of Parliament conveying to Ministers
notice that if their demands were not attended to they
would oppose his Majesty's Government. He certainly
could not approve of such a course, and so long as he held
the situation he had the honour to 611 it should hare no
effect upon him. The Noble Rarl had raid he (Earl Grey)
conducted himself independently at the first meeting. tie
would say if any threat of that sort was held out to him,
whatever might be the number of the persona who sombined
to force him to accede to their views. he should resist,
thoueh they forted him from his situation. At the second
meetieg, to which the Noble Karl referred, he was
not present. At the time the deputatter waited
nn him a plan had been some time in contemplation
for regulation of the Yeomanry Corps. As that measure
was not before Parliament, he should not elate what it was ;
hut he could metre the noble earl it was not the intention of
his Majesty's Government to insult the Yeomanry of be-
lated. or detract from the feeling doe to their services. lie
could only say that what premed on the occasion alluded to.
had 4uhreed hie Majesty's Government not to persevere at
that time in the Mr•PUTS they had in contemplation. It was
far from his wish to injure that honourable corps, but he
weuld say. if asked the question, that more advantage might
he derived horn the employment of regular farces, if mili-
tary forces% should be necessary. than from Yeomanry, either
in England or Ireland. However, he did not mean to pro-
pose any meson for the abolition of those corps. His Ma.
jetty's Government had no intention of introducing say
mesture of the nature the noble lord supposed would take
place.
The Veil of WICKLOW expressed himself much de-
-I;ghted by hiring obtained from the noble Earl one of the
mist satisfactory statements be had ever heard. It would
do emit good in Irehted.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN spoke in favour of the
yeomanry corps. and observed that he had recommended
callint them ore in the county over which he hail the ho-
roue to preside as Lieutenant.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY described the depu.
talon to he gentlemen connected with the Roman Catholics
of ',eland. Sir John Doyle, Mr O'Connell. Mr. Shiel,
sett others had sitored the letter. If the Noble Earl die.
larded the yeornanei of Inland. the .states held by Noble
Lords in !retard would no longer remain safe. The Noble
Marquis considterd the whole to be a proceeding leading
to a repeal of the Union. which was still contemplated by
an urfortunate person, who had kept Ireland in a state of
agitation. 'The Noble Maratris read the letter which bad
been signed by the parties. The Noble Marquis went on to
say he could not but again thank the Noble Earl (Grey)
ftr the course he had pursued relative to the deputations on
the affairs of Ireland. and was proceeding to make some me
marks upon the conduct of the Lord Lieutenant of Ire-
land. respecting the Dublin election, when he was called
to order by
The Duke of RICH MOND, who contended that there
was no question now before the House.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY maintained that he
was in order.
After a conversation on a nolnt of order, in which Lord
HOLLAND. the Marquis of WISTSZATH, and Lord Los-
Dounreay took pavt.
Raul GREY said, that no deference prejudicial to the
charactets of the gentlemen who formed the deputations
to him and the Chancellor of the Exchequer could be
drawn.
The conversation then dropped.
USSR SILL.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented a pets.
riot from Sittingliourne. praying that the new beer shops
should be Ocoee, on the Lord's Day. The most reverend
prelate moved the committal of Ise augmentation of Small
Livings Pill. which was afterwards ordered to be reported
to-morrow (this day.) The moat reverend prelate also gave
notice. that on Thursday, he should move the second read.
ire of a hill for reteraininz pluralities.
(in the motian of the Duke of RICHMOND. a Bill
for the Hotter Employment of the Poor was nad a second
time.
• The hilts on their lordships table were forwarded a stage,
and the h. use adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
SR. •ND MSS. DIACLC.

Coigne) F.VA NS presented a petition from Mr and 31ra.
Heade, of Hamp.hire, prayi.:g for permltution to produce
rr iti,t:ce at the liar of the House to disprove the allegations
that I ad tern mule againat their conduct, and in justifies.
oi Mr. B Bari.to. When he brought the subject he-
!.ll r the house on a former occasion, he had avoided any
trunication with the parties, for the purpose of entirely
avto,littg making any es parte statements, having brought
the question before the house entirely on public grounds,
ant; purl ei•ir.g the papers he moved for would be refit-
s. it. fie •as then n:es in a manner entirely unexpected. It
V. V. pmed that all ere rersons present at the transaction were
ircludLd in the action brought by Mr. and Mrs. Beetle:
Li I; ch, as he bad co particular knowledge of the subject,
he ea• wish!, to contradict ; he now found that there were
e;even per ons present, only five of whom were included
in the action. The others were a banker, a lieutenant
in the navy, and constables, not one of whim was tza-
r. toed in the defence He now learned that from the after-
t mu. made in the deferce of Mr. Baring, on the occasion of
tt:e di.cu,si •n on his notion, the characters of the parties re-
ce.veal t; uch injury, and he was in consequence applied to
to rearm the petition for an investigation of the transaction.
It was already known that after Mrs. Heade had been for
some days confined in gaol she tints discharged, there being
tin evidence against her. Mr. Desch was prosecuted, and
ev drone brought forward against hint ; after all their evi-
ii was heard the prosecution was given up, and Mr.
teacle watt prev.nted by the Judge from producing any evi.
tienct. or even from cross.exantining the last witr.ess, being
told by the Judge it was the rrivtlege of the prosecutor to
ittvc up the prosecution when he pleased; and that he
(Mr. Deacle) was honourably acquitted. Yet, after
this, and a'rhough Mr. Dead. trom the moment of
his arrest, declared his determination to bring an 'e-
lfin for danuyes, and although a verdict had been
gi •en against Mr. I inghatn Baring, yet the es porte
it fonnathms on which 3lr. Deacle was so treated, were al-
lowed to b,• read in that house, where no answer could be
rival by Mr. Deacle. Mr. B. Baring and hi. family_ pos-
se-sed great property and influence in the county of Hamp.
lathe, and his character had been urged as a reason for re,.
titling inqui: y ; hit be thought where facts were positively
Froved in a court of justice to the satisfaction of the judge
sail jury, that character, however high, was not a sufficient
aIISW4I. VI. Deacle was prepared to prove that his conduct
was the reverse of that imputed to hint by the it::onnations,
but the opportunity was never afforded him. The petition.
era stated that during their imprisonment ail letters directed
to them were destroyed, one of which contained an offer of
legal assistance; it also stated the feet that one of the wit-
nesaes examined against Fair. Deacle stated, on his cross-
examination, that he would have been prosecuted himself if
t..• otti nut give evidence against Mr. Death ; another wit-
while in the dock, to take his trial, was called out by
the gaoler, and told he should not be prosecuted if be would
give evidence against Deacle, which be consented to do. The
petitioners also complained orate report of the debatesof that
home., which appeared In the newspapers, and contented as-