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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL is.

Mr. ADAK and Mr. KRAT, for the appellants ; and Mr. bowl A.
liluaaav and Mr. Futtearox, for the respondent, were heard fully
in the Appeal, Lieutenant-General George Alonerieff, and Roger
Aytuun, W.S. his Commissioner, v. Patrick George Shane, Esq.
of Hallyards.
In the Appeal,•" Duncan v. the Lord Advocate of Scotland,"
Counsel were heard in part. To be continued on Tuesday next.
Counsel were beard, and witnesses examined, in the divorce
case of Barker v. Barker, and further proceedings were postponed
to Nionday. -
Lord DYNEVOR presented Petitions from various Parishes in
the County of • Carmarthen against further concessions to the Ca-
tholics.—Laid on the table.
Lord KEN YON presented a similar Petition from the• Free-
tolders and Inhabitants of the Parish of Ilanwell, and of another
Parish in Flintshire.—Laid on the table.
Lord ROLLE presented a Petition to the same effect, signed
by between 300 and 400 individuals, both Dissenters and persons
of the Established Church, inhabiting the town of Sidmouth, in the
County of Devon.—Laid on the table.
- The LORD CHANCELLOR also presented a Petition against
Catholic Emancipation from the Incorporation of Skinnets at
Glasgow.—Laid on the table.
The Bishop of ST. DAVID'S presented a similar Petition from
the Gentlemen and Freeholders of the Upper Half of the County
of Cardigan.—Laid on the table.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented similar Petitions from
the Borough of Newark, and several Parishes in the County of
Nottingham.—Laid on the !able.
A Petition of a similar nature from the Parish of All Saints,
Poplar, was also presented by the Earl of SHAFTIVADJAV, and faid
or• the table.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE alluded to the numerous Pe-
titions which he had presented against the Equitable Loan Com-
pany 131.1, and to the prayer of the Petitioners to be allowed to
prove at the Car of the Douse that the proposed Association was
illegal. He did not know whether any Noble Lord present in-
tended to tliove the second reading of the Bill, but in coder that
their Lordships should be in possession of all possible information
on the subject, he should move that there be laid before the House
a copy of the Deeds regulating the Equitable Loan Company, dated
Novetner 6, 16!24, and al.() cores of all Prospectuses published
In the Newspapers at That time. and of all Papers signed by the
Chairman, cr one or more of the Managers, Directors and ocher
individuals who were parties to the signing of the Deed, before or,
since the 6th of November, 15r.4. lu order that the stock of
formation be complete, he 'should aho move for copies of all Char.
ten or Licenses granted by bis Majesty's Royal Predecessors to
Companies for assisting the reor with the loan of small sums of
money.—Or dared.
51r. JOHNSON resented an Account of the additional accommo-
alatious aGorded in the London Ihicks, and of the sums expended
and to be expended on effectilig the same--Laid on the table.—
Adjourtled 'till Monday".

HOUSE, OF CO3IMONS.
The SITAIML took the Chair a few minute% before four o'clock.
lklore the House proceeded to the business of tfte clay, three new
Alembers were sworn and took their mans. .
lklr..kl. SUMN Cli moved the second reading of the Southwark'
Paving.,VOL . .
After some
.opposition on the part of Sir R. Wit.sou, the Bill
Ism read a seCOAri time. .
t4r 11, ,W I LSON then moved that the Bill be committed this
day sii.uumiLi.—The House divided on the question—
For the Bill - - .. - 17
Apiu4etit _ - 24

Natty against the Bill
Ur. BOBIROUS pre‘ented a Petition from the Owners of
'Wharfs as the north book of the Thames, against tite proposed

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•chente for making a quay along the banks of the River: He sin-
cerely hoped this mischievous plan ins abaltioned, net only for this
Session, but for ever.
Colonel -T ILE NC H said, be was convinced that the very signers
orthis Petition would soon have their eyes opened to their own
interests In favour of this plan. The whole empire, with the ex-
cePain of the* petitioners, desired to see it accomplished, and
he was Sore the opposition would be greatly ' diminished by
next Session.

Mr. HODGSON presented a Petition from Brixton and Dart-
mouth, in favour of the Metropolitan Fish CoMpany'a Bill.—Laid
on the table.

Nit% BYNG presented two Petitions from the parish of St. Pan-
cras, against the. Metropolitan and London Water Companies' Bills.
—Laid on the table.
A Petition -was presented from certain Fislr Corers of Burnt-
island against the Metropolitan Fish Company's Bill.
Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE presented a Petition from the
Fishermen of Portsmouth, Gosport, and Plymouth, in favour of the
said Bill.—Ordered to He on the table. _ _

A Petition was presented by Mr. PUWLETT from Stockton against
the Stipp Duties.—Laid on the table.
ANS FI LD presented Petitions from St. Margaret's, St.
Martin's and another Parish in Leicester, and also from the Mayor,
Vicar, and Burgesses of the Borough of Leicester, and several places
in the County of Leicester, praying that no further concessions may
be granted to the Roman Catholici.
Admiral SOTH EROS presented similar Petitions from Hinck-
ley and Hockney, in Northamptonshire, and from Nottingham.
Mr. DENMAN observed, witkrespect to the last Petition that
it spoke the sentiments of a very small proportion of the inhabitants
of Nottingham. It came from the immediate vicinity, but not from
the town, which was favourable to Catholic Emancipation..
Sir JAMES MACKENZIE presented 'a similar Petition from
the 'County of Ross.
Mr. Alderman C. SMITH presented a similar Petition from the
Mayor and Corporation of St. Alban's.
Mr. B. COOPER presented a similar Petition from the Rural
Deanery of Dursley, in Gloucestershire.
Sir C. LONG presented a similar Petition from •the Dean and
Canons of the Chapel Royal Windsor. •
Similar Petitions were presented from Hillicombe, Littleden,
Llangellan, Cardiff, Newark upon Trent, the Mayor and Corpora-
tion-of Colchester, Dolgathley, Dawlish, the Corporation, and
Bankers and Weavers of Glasgow, East Retford, Kilmary, and
Peckham.—These Petition were ordered to lie•on the table.
Colonel CUST, in presenting a Petition similar to the above
from the Borough of Grantham, County of. Lincoln, declared his
conviction that it would be dangerous to grant political power to
the Catholics.—Ordered to lie on the table. •
Mr. HUSKISSON presented a Petition front Liverpool, praying
for a repeal of the Window Tax.—(Hear, hear.)—Ordered to lie
on the table. •
, Me. Alderman WOOD presented a similar Petition from the
Churchwardens of St. Bartholomew's. _ _

Mr. DOWN presented three Petitions from Dunfermline,
against the repeal of duty on Fat eign Linens.
Mr. COR WEN presented a Petition from the Town of Ellen-
borougit, praying fcr some alteration in the Corn Laws. _
Leird G. SOMERSET presented a•Petitioa from hertow, in
favour of .the Bill for the recovery of imall'Dehts. •
COMBINATION 471 WORIChIiN.
Mr. HUME presented a Petition-from the Seamen of
North and South Shields, complaining of the charges brought
against them of conspiring to raise their wages.. The object of their
union was merely for charitable purposes.
Mr. LAM ISTON denied th,it the union of these men
was for the purpose. of charity alone. He the") pro-
ceeded to read lionie of tlie articles of the union, 4/filch
confined their charity to persons belonging to the union,
and to' intine others. As a proof of this, two. men in,
distten were the other day sent to beg their way through
the country, because they were not, nteMbers of the isition and
019 men were lately. stt ill treated in the toten of Sunderland;
for the ianie reiseri, that their lives were despaired of. The greatest
alarm prevailed in the North of England onuccount of this combina-
tion.—The Petition was then tead, and referred to the Committee
on the Comignadon Laws.
Mr. BUME theft presented a Petition from
,operitive. Ship-
wrights of the River Thames, praying to be heard by Counsel against
any allegations their-masters might make against them—Referred
to the aforesaid. Committee.' . .
The Hoq. Member' presented a Petition from the Shipowners
of blootrose,praylpg that•the duty on Rapeseed might be repealed.
The above P -ds, with the exception of these referred to the
Committee on the Combination
_Laws, were severally read and
ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. HODHOUSE gave notice of a motion for:the 3d May, for
the Repealed the Window Tar. - •
Mr. PELHAM moved for an Account of the Imports and Ex:
ports from Lyme Regis.during the last live years.—Ordered.
Mr. DENMAN, in rising to present a Petition from the town
and county of the town of Nottingham, praying for a repeal of the
Assessed Taxes, and for a.revision of the Corn Laws, assured the
House that the Petition spoke the real sentiments of the people of
that place, and therefore deserved consideration.—Ordered to lie
on the table.
Mr. SPRING RICE presented a Petition from the Corpora-
tion of the Chamber of Commerce of Limeriek,praying the House,
before making any alteration in the 'Cora Laws, to allow sufficient
time for those concerned to attend to their interest. He observed
that Limerick was one of the greatest corn ports in Ireland.—The
Petition was then brought up and ordered to be printed.
Lord STANLEY prestnted a Petition from Royton, praying a
revision of the Corn Laws.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a Petition. from Shepton
Mallett, against the House and Window. Tax.—Ordered to lie on
the table.

MR. MADAM.

Mr.BROUGHAM rose to make a request,towhich' he
trusted the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) would have no objection
to accede, relative to a subject of much importance,
which was that evening to be brought before the Com-
mittee of Supply (the vote of 2,0Q01. to Mr. Mk/Vern).
He pledged himself to demonstrate to the House that
there was no one invention which might not with equal
justice be made a ground for applying to Parliament
for compensation. Sir Humphry Davy,. for the discovery of his
safety lamp, was as well entitled to reward. Many Members felt
much interested in the subject ; he would therefore urge the Right
Honourable Gentleman to consent to the postponement.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that he felt no particular anxiety to bring the subject
forward that evening. If the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman would have reference to cireutnstances, he would see
that there was nothing unreasonable in his bringing it forward on
that night. He had given notice of the vote before theislidays,
he had fixed a day that appeared most convenient, and he could
really see no objection to its being proceeded with ; at the same
time, he was willing to consult the convenience of the House.
Mr. BROUGHAM admitted that the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman had given due noike ; nothing was to be ob-
jected to on that score, bet it would be a great personal accommo-
dation if be would agree to a postponement till that day week.
Mr. HOLME SUMNEIt, in the last Session, had
moved for a return of.the salary paid to Mr. M.Adam.
It was right that before any further sum was voted, the House
should be made aware of the sum already granted.—After a few
words from CaptainMnssulms the conversation dropped.

ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
Mr. WYNDHAM LEWIS presented a Petition from Cardiff,
against any further Concessions to the Kaman Catholics.
Mr. It..TRE YOE presented similir'Petitions from Hailingaian
and Llanbers„ in Carnurthenshire.
Sir W. CLAYTON presented a similar Petition from the Do
rough of Newaik.
Mr. LUSHINOTON presented a similar Petition from Col
cheater ; also, a similar Petition from Llangollen, in Merioneth-
,shire.—The Petitions were severally ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. Secretary PEEL presented Petitions against the Catholic
Claims from the following places: Bolton-le-Moors; the parish of
Campsie, in Stirling; All Stints, Poplar; Ilanbury, in Kent;
also, from the Clergy of the Arclideacdttry of Middlesex, the ha-
' 'Osten and Elders of ./3eltaeld-street Chapel, Glasgow ; the Session
of Kilpatrick ; the frequenters of Grove Chapel, eamberwell ; the
Maltmen of Glasgow ; and from the Congregation of St. James-
street, Glasgow.
Alr. A EERCROItI BY rose to present a Pet on from the town
of Bandon, 1,9 Ireland, in favour of concession to the Catholics,
and the exyansiox of civil and religious liberty. From the fame
place, another F!etkien bad been presented against Catholic Claims,
but that Petition was forwarded without the knowledge of many
most respectable inhabitants of Bandon, and signatures were ob-
tained to it by wing influent; With the boys educ.tted.at a school in

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that town, whoa names formed a large portion of those attached,
to thePetidon‘Fetition brought up, and ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. CALCRAFT inquired respecting certain Corn Returns
from the town df Ipswich, which he expected before then.
Mr. HUSKISSON.repIied, that he had applied to the In-
spector-Oeneral, and would lay the Return on the table of the
House tomorrow. •
COMMITTEE OF SOIPLI4
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in
moving the Committee of Supply, had no objection to
postpone the-grant to Mr. M'Adam for a fortnight.
CUSTOM HOUSE.

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Mr. BERNAL alluded to the state of the Custom-
house and observed, that the architect was anxious for enquiry
into his conduct. .
Mr. HERRIES felt it would be improper then to
state all that had come to the knowledge of the- Trea-
sury ; but be must say, that from what had transpired,
some ulterior proceedings would take place; but no time would be
lost in enabling the individual to vindicate himself, if be was able.
Mr. CALCRAFT knew. that Mr. Peto, in a parti-
cular transaction, had acted with fidelity and ability.
. Mr. HERRIES said (in answer to a question from
Mr. Alderman Wood), that no legal proceeding had as
yet been instituted relative to the individual alluded to.
In the Committee of Supply, the following sums were voted on
the motion of Mr. Goytisolo; : £9.6,000 for the Police of the City
of Dublin; £B,OOO for the expense of the Committee appointed to
inquire into the State of Education in Ireland; £27,871 for the
Holyhead Road.
Mr. GOULBURN, in reply to some observations
front Mr. Hume, stated that one or two additional
Grants would terminate the-slemands on the Public. - •
Mr. HUME said, no doubt tite Commissioners de-
served something, but from same of the items, such as
1.5601. for a solicitor's bill, for soliciting an Act of Par-
liament, and great sums for Engineers' charges, an hiquiry should
be instituted.
Sir H. PARNELL said, the charges of the solicitors,
though high, were customary, and on examination, he
had no doubt, would be found as moderate as from the stature of
the business they could possibly be performed.
Mr. CALCRAFT said, this was possibly a private
Bill in its form, but it was for a public purpose, yet
they were to submit to these enormous charges on their:
own grants. It was very desirable that such Bills as
these should be considered as public Bills. Here the
milestones cost £6 each, whilst on a road, of which he was a
Trustee, the milestones could be got for £1 each.
Sir H. PA RNELLdefended the conduct of the Commissioners'
of the Shrewsbury and Holyhead Road.
Mr. V. FITZGF.RALD said, it would be imPossible to deal
with these Bills as public Bills, on account of the line of road
trenching on the rights of private persons. He thought that no
work was ever better execUted than this in question.—After a few
words from Mr. Helms; Mr. Heim, Sir H. Passau., and Mr.
CALCSATT, the vote was agreed to.
EMIGRATION FROM IRELAND.•

Mr..WILMOT HORTON rose to propOsethat a cer-
tain sum should be graAtedto his Majesty for the removal
of emigrants from the'Sonth of Ireland to the Cape of
Good-Hope and Canada, It .was not the intention of
Ministers to propose a renewal of this grant on any fu-
ture occasion. He stated that the principle on which the
system. of emigration from the south of Ireland was
conducted was a sound one. The *ror of all former
systems wasp that the ;migrant, on his arrival at the
Colony, was left without any means of immediate sup-
port. Under the present system that error was avoided;
And every emigrant might, on his arrival, be sure, with
the exercise of common industry, of procuring a liveli-
hood. Government had received the most flattering
accounts of the success which had attended the present
system so late as up to last February. Under these
circumstances, he felt justified in proposing the present
vote. The undertaking was merely in the-nature of ap experiment,
which might, in itsoperation, effect a partial benefit to Ireland.
• Mr. GRATTAN was of opinion, that Parliament
ought to be fully informed of what had been the re.ult
of the emigration which had already taken place, before they voted
anymore money.
ifr. V. PITZGERAT.D supported the grant.
Mr. ABERCRO MBY disapproved of the principle of
exporting the people of Ireland, instead' of finding em-
ployment for them at home. He did, not, however,
ject to the plan as an experiment, but be thought it unwise that
Government should bear the whole expense attendant upon the
removal of the emigrants.
Mr. WILMOT.HORTON assured the Hon. Member
that the removal of the emigrants was conducted with the utmost
possible economy.
Mr. BRIGHT approved of the principle of coloni-
zation, but deprecated the expense with which the present system
was attended. He should oppose the grant, unless a Committee
was appointed.
Mr. SPRING RICE believed- that the question of
emigration was one which must at length force itself upon the at-
tention of the House, but was decidedly in favour of investigation
by a Committee.
Mt. M FITZGERALD agreed. in the general. ad-
vantage of a colonization; and thought that the experiment which
had been made ought to be carried still farther. He supported it.
Mr. HUME opposed the grant, and was not at all
satisfied as to the way in which the former sums voted
had been disposed of. Believing that to agree to this
vote would not. only be useless but unjust, he should
oppose it; and be thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer would
act in contradiction to his professions if he persisted in thus adding
to the public bunhens.
Mr. J. SMITH said, that notwithstanding the oppo-
sition of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume), he should sup-
port the grant. He was satisfied that by emigration the
situation Of the peasantry of Ireland would be ameliorated ; and
for this reason, if it were, as it was not, the only one, be should
wish to see it put in practice.
Mr. HUTCHINSON supported this vote, because
he was convinced that the measure .was at least calcu-
lated to alleviate some of the distress which %di felt by
the lower orders of the population of Ireland. • But if
it was believed that this would be a sufficient remedy
for the sufferings which pervaded the whole of Ireland,
that was a mistake which he felt it his duty not to allow
to be passed'over without contradiction. It must be by
much more extensive and enlightened measures that any permanent
and universal relief could be administered to the people of Ireland.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
that there could be no objection that the question of t!!e
expediency ofemigration from Ireland should be referred
to a specific Committee, as the Committee on the general
state of Ireland might not be able to embrace that
object in their investigations. If, however, the propo-
sition for such a reference was meant to supersede the
grant, the necessity of which he insisted upon, he should oppose it.
Mr. TRANT supported the gram. Ile, however,
would not have done so but for the promise which was
contained in the Right Hon. Gentleman's observation,
that a Committee should be appointed to inquire into
the expediency of emigration—an inquiry which he was sure would
be highly beneficial to Ireland.
The Vute was then agreed to; the House resumed; the Chair-
man repoited progress, and the Report was ordered to be received
on Monday next.
On the motion of Mr. C. GSAIrr, the Colonial Intercourse Pill
was comniitted, upon the understanding that the Report would he
received and further considered on Monday week, .and the Bill
printed in the interim.
On the motion of Mr. WER RIES, the Customs and Excise'
Consolidation Acts went through a Committee, and have Was given,
to bring in a Bill to amend and embody the same.
The Bankrupt Laws' Aniendnient Bill was recommitted.—. Report
to be received on Monday. •
The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the House
adjourned at Twiiva o'Ctocx till Monday next,

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