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OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, February 1, 1809. I
THE PRINCIPAL OFFICERS of HIS MA-
.

JESTra ORDNANCE, do kerAy give-Notice,

That Proposals will be received at their Office in Pall-Mall, on
or before Friday the 17th day of February next, from such Per-
sons as may be willing to undertake the Shpply of COLOURS and
OILS for the service of this Department, for a period of Three
Years.

Samples of the Articles may be viewed upon application at the
Principal Storekeeper's Office in the Tower, where further par-
ticulars, together with the Terms and Conditions of the Contracts,
may be known ; and also at tl.e Secretary's Office in
aforesaid, any day, between the hours of ten and four o'clock,
where alco the Proposals must be delivered, sealed up and en-
dorsed " Proposals for Colours, or for Oils," as the case may be ;
hid no Proposal can be admitted after the said 1 ith day of Pehrn-
ary, at twelve o'clock at noon of the same day, neither will any
Tender be noticed, unless the party making it, or an Agent in his
behalf, shall attend. By Order ofthe Board,
R. H. GREW, Secretary.

VICTUALLING-OFFICE, Ft6reiary 13, 1809.
THE COMMISSIONERS for VICTUALLINA
HIS MAJASTY's VT, de kereby give Notice,

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That en Tuesday the '2lst instant, they will be ready to feeeite
Tenders, in writing, (sealed up) and treat for. Eight Hundred
Quarters of New Yale, and for Two Hundred Quarters of New
Close Dried Amber MALT ; to be delivered one half thereof in
a fortnight, and other half in a fortnight afterwards, into his Ma-
jesty's Victualling stores at Deptford; and to be paid for by Bills
payable with interest ninety days after date.
The Conditions of the Contract May be seen at the Secretary's
Office.

No regard will he had to any Tender hi which the price shall not h:
inserted in words at length, or that shall not be itlivrred to the Board
before One *Thick on the said Tuesday the 2lst instant, nor upless the
Person who ma4es the Tender, or some Peron on his behalf: attends
to answer Taw? called for.

TIMBER.
TO BE SOLD, ]tit)Acres of very fine OAK
TIMBER mixed with some very valuable ASH and
ALDER, all of above lOU years growth. It is situated within
fifteen miles of Clonmell, and twenty-one of Limerick, in the
Kingdom of Ireland, from each of which Towns there is water
carriage.—Proposals (post paid) will he received until the ad of
March, by Wm. Roper, Esq. S 4, North Great George's-streqb
Dublin, and further particulars may he known, by application to
Mr. John Nesbitt, No. 16, Tokenhouse-Yard, London.

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, FEB. 13:
Gtegson's Divorce Bill was read a second time : and Sir John
Brograve's was read a first time Bassett's Divorce Bill went
through a Committee : and the second reading of Campbell's DI-
voree Bill was postponed to the 23d instant.
On the motion of Lord MOIRA, there were ordered to be laid-
before diet-louse an account of the sums paid into the'Exchequer
' daring the year ending the sth of January last, being the produce
of penaltiesi or composition for penalties, for breaches of the Re-
venue Laws : and an account of the neat produce of the revenue,
in its respective branches, paid Into the Exchequer during the
um* period.
'The Earl of Lives root. laid en the table copies of the Aincri.
eon Diplomatic Correspenddoce moved for by Lord Auckland.
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HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. WILB,ERFORCEyresented a petition from the Debtors
in York Cisde, praying relief by an Insolvent Bill.—Ordered to
lie on the table.
Lord Boringdon's Divorce Bill from the Lords was read the
mooed rime .cominkted forthwith. evidenee-mnisrbord, dui Bill
glemethroug:be reponedi read the third time, passed, and ordered
to the LOrds.
Commitied, the Malt Duty, and the Mt Million and the
Million Exchequer Bills Bills, and ordered to be reported to-
morrow. •
the Committee of Supply, and of Ways and Means, postponed
to Wednesday.
Mr. YORKE. .presented his Land Tax Commissioners List
Amendment Bill, which was read thC iirat time, and ordered for
the second reading this day se'nnight.
Mr. BARING moved ter Accounts of the Exports and Imports
of Great Britain and Ireland, distinguishing Home Produce from
Foreign Mereltandizt., rot' three years, distinguishing each year :
also an Account of all Goods exported to and imported from the
United States'of America and this Country, with the like diatiuc-
dons, during the same period.
Also, an Account of all Lumber and Provisions imported into
the British West India Islands, within the same period, and the
Places from whence imported.
Also, an Account of the Quantity of Cotton Wool imported
into this Country within the same period, with the Rate Acid
Amount of Duty thereon, and distinguishing the Countries front
whence imported.
Also the Quantity of Flax imported Into Great Britain and
Ireland within the same period, distinguishing the Countries from
whence imported.
Mr. WHITBREAD moved, in the mat form, that there be
laid before the House, Copies of any Proceediugs in the Ameri-
can Congress,since the commencenwnt of their present Meeting,
that have been transinkted to his Majesty's Ministers, respecting
the Intercomse and Commerce between the United States and
Great Britain.
Mr. Will' I'BREAD gave notice, that he would move to-mor-
row for a Copy of the Treaty between his Majesty and the King
of Sweden ; and also fur Copies of the Correspondence which
passed between Mr. Madison and Mr. Ruse, during the official
residence of the latter in America.
Lord H. PET I'Y gave notice of his intention to move to-mor-
'row for a Copy of any writteircotwaunication from Government
to Sir Hew Dalrymple, after his return to England, respecting
the transactions in Portugal.
oitrwit OF ME DAY.
The House, on the motion of Mr. WARDLE, re-
solved into a Committee for further inquiry, respect-
ing the conduct of the Duke. of YORK.
• Mr. WILARTON in the Chair.
The first witness. called in was Mr. MALTBY.
;Examined ty the CiIj‘Nt:ELLOR of the' EX('HEQL,FR. -
Q. Where does the witness live ? A At Fish-
monger's-hall —Q. Are you; acquainted with Mrs.
Clarke ? A. I ani.—(2. How long ? A. Since July
or August, 1806.—Q. How came you acquainted
with hers A. I'was introduced through Mr. R. Man-
ners, a Member of this House. in the last Parliament..
He told me that by being introduced to Mrs. Clarke,
she wouLteodeavour to get a place through the Duke
of York ; and therefore 1 had no objection to it, and
did not chuse to reinse him—Q. How often did you
see Mrs. Clarke ? A. Five or six times in the course
of that year. I did not see her afterwards until the
trial of Captain Thompson.—Q. I)id you hear any
more front Mrs. Clarke of the place she was to provide
for you through the introduction of Mr. Manners ?
A. I understood site had told Mr. Manners she had
applied to the Duke of York, and shewn him a letter
from the Duke, in which he said ha would comply.—
Q I)id you se that letter ? A. 1, am not quite cer-
tain of that. Mr. Manners told me it was written by
the Duke of York.—Q. At what time of the year did
you first see her ? A. It was in July or August, to
the best of my recollection.—Q. Did you hear at
‘Yhat time her connexion with the Duke of York was
broken off ? A. I understood at that time the con-
nexion Was not broken off altogether, btit that she
sometimes saw the Duke.—Q. 1)o you recollect in
the course of that year any thing mpecting the ob-
taining a place for any body ? A. Not to my recol,
lection.—Q. I)id you see her any more after that year
until 1808 ? A. Not to 'my recollection until the
Court-Martial on Captain Thompson.—Q. Have you
had, since that time, any Communication with Mrs.
Clarke respecting the attainment of any places ? A.
Yes.—Q. When ?A.As a reason for my recollect-
. in,* my communication with Mrs. Clarke, Mr. Man.
tiers had a regimental account to settle on account of
his father General Manners, the settlement of which
he could not obtain from the Duke of York. I had
' lent him from time to tie+e several sums for his accent-
modation, fOr the repayment of which, he gave me an
assignment upon the debt due on this account : it was
for XlOOO or k 1 200. I felt an interest to get the ac-
count settled as soon as I could, and therefore I ap.
plied to Mrs. Clarke.,—Q. Whey NY:LS. this ?A. It was
in August or September last, to the best of my recol-
lection.—Q. Had, you no other communication at
the time ? A. Yes, respecting a Mr. Lodowick.-
-.--Q. What was the nature of your communication
respecting. Mr. Lodowick ? A. It was, that Mr.
Lodowick wished to have some place ; and Mrs.
Clarke asked me if I knew of any place that would
suit him. I promised to make some inquiry, and I
found there was a place vacant of Assistant Commis-
sary.—Q. Did he obtain it? A. The money was
deposited for it, And I.was led to believe the purpose
would.be effected ; but it What became
of the money deposited? A. It was deposited in the
hands. of-Birch and Co. bankers, in Bond street ; and
it remains there now. PAIL was deposited in the
names of Lloyd and Barber, and part of it in my
name, and that of Mr. Barber.—Q. To whom was
the money to be paid, in the event of the application
succeeding.? . A. That part that was for Lloyd and
Barber, Aunt 6001. would go to Mr. Lloyd, as Mr.
Zatber vcis a friend. of his.. The Monty was only .w

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be taken out in the event of getting the place. The
other lA.. was to pass through my bands, and I
was to pay it to the person with- whoM I communi-
cated at the time.—Q. With whom was it that you
communicated ? A. With an Agent; his name
was Tyndal ; he lived in Simmons's-building, Chel-
sea.--Q. Who is Mr. Lloyd ? A. I don't know. I
believe an Attorney. Q. How came Mr. Lloyd to
be entitled to so large a share A. I believe as an
Agent, be Was fo have considerable emoluMent.—Q.
Was Mr. Lloyd to give part of this money to any
-other person.? A. Ikir..Lloyd was to receive it., but
I don't know what he was to do with Who
introduced Mr. Lodowick to you ? A. Mrs. Clarke
mentioned him to Me : I nester saw him.—Q. Are
you quite certain you never saw hint ? A. Never.--s.
Q. Who did Mrs. Clarke say he was ? A. I forget
whether she said he was her friend, or Mr.• Barbee's
Skesaid he lived in WA* Mil.
•Cgaeaequainted with Mr. Tyndal ? A. No.—Q.
With Mr. Barber ? A. Yes.---Q. With Mr. Lloyd?
A. No, I introduced Mr. Lloyd to her.
Q. What share was Mrs. Clarke to have of the
money ? A. Noiliing.Q, What were you to have?"
A. Nothing.—Q. What, then, you acted merely for
your pleasure ? A. Mr. Ludowick was a friend of
Mrs. Clarke's, and I wished to assist him.—Q. How
came Mrs. Clarke to • ask your assistance ? A. In
consequence of my calling on her.—Q. When did
you call on her ? A. I several times called on her,
and wrote to her : I wished to keep up her acquain-
tance.—Q. How was Mrs. Clarke to effect the puner
poses you wished ?• A. I understood she had still an.
influence over the Duke of York.—Q. Was this the
first instance of your assisting her toprovide place:for
her friends ? A. Yes.—Q. Was there any other ? A.
Nothing effective.—Q. \Vas there any other instance
in which your efforts were not effective ? A. Yes,
in. the application for a Paymastership.—Q. Do you
recollect for whom ? A. Yes, a Mr. Williarns.—Q.•
Where did be live ? A. I understood in Devonshire.
Q. Did you procure that Paymastership ? A. I
made application to Mr. Tyndal.—Q Did Mr. Tyn-
dal tell you through whom he was to obtain it ? A.
No.—Q. Was any money deposited ?A. No.—Q.-.
Was any other application made to you by Mrs:
1 Clarke ? A. Yes, in the same way, but nothing was
done.—Q. On whose behalf was that ? A. On be-
half of Mr. Thompson.—Q. When was that ? was it
before or after she applied to you -about Mr. ~Lodo..
wick ? A. Before. • f • •
Q. Then- Mr. Lodowicl, Mr. Williams, and Mr.
Thompson, were the only persons in whose behalf she
required your assistance? A. Yes.—Q. About what'.
time was her application about Mr. Williams ?.
About August.Q. Was any money deposited ?
No.—Q. IVhat office was he • to. procure ?A. Wil-
liams was to be a District Paymaster, and Thompion
was' to be in the Militia.—Q. Did Youin-ate any ens
quiry in these cases ? A. Yes ; of Mr. Tyndal..•-.Q.
Do you recollect the name of any other person of
whom you made enquiry ? A. .Yes ; Mr. Donovan.
—Q. What office was he to obtain ? A. A place in
the Customhouse ra.
,Landing Waiter.—Q. Was any
money deposited ? A. „No.—Q. Was there any um.
ney promised in case the application succeeded ? A.
In case Mr. Thompson's application succeeded, ,the
sum coming to me was £`2so.—Q. Who was to have
that :4:250 ? A. I don't know.—Q. You don't know.
Did not you negociate the business with Mr.Tyndal?
A. Mr. l'yndal mentioned it.—Q. Do you mean ro•
say you were to have nothing for your trouble in all
this business ? A. No, Sir.—Q. Was Mrs. Clarke
• to have nothing ? A. Nothing,—Q. Are you serious
when you say this ? A. I am.—Q. Did you n.v r
hear that she dignified you by the title of her Duke of
Portland ? A. I met Sir George Hill in the City,
and he told me she had called me her Duke of Port-
land, when she was examined here.—Q. Have you
bad any transactions with Pullman and Keylock ? A. ,
No.—Q. Do you know the christian name of the Mr.
Williams who was examined in this house ? A. No,
1 do not know him:
Q. (By General LosTus) Did you not assign as
a reason for Mr. Tyndal's not succeeding in• his ob-
ject, as to Loduwick's appointment, the interest which •
Sir Arthur,
.Wellesley had in the Inquiry at Chelsea ?
A. I understood from Tyndal, that the public min.
t?on concerning the Court at Chelsea stood in the way.
Q. (By Mr. Want)) Up to what period did you
understand that Mrs. Clarke had influence sufficient
with the Duke of York to obtain appointments?. A.
I had reason from her to suppose so up to. the present
moment.—'Q. Do you men from 1806, or is it your
own surmise ? A. She made me believe that about
that period he put her on a small establishment.
Q. (By Mr. BaTituttsT.) Did you suppose you had
any influence with the Duke of York ? A. No.—Q.
Whatreason then could Mrs. Clarke (who repleseet.
• ed herself to have interest) have for soliciting your
interference who had none ? A. I cannot account for
it. (2/ laugh )—Q. Did you ever represent yourself
to Mrs. Clarke, as having influence with the Duke of
Portland ? A. No, never.
Q. (By Mr. Win rintran.) With *whom did you
say you had influence which induced her to apply to
you ? A. No one.—Q. With whom had Mr. Tyn.
dal interest ? A. Ido not know.—Q. Then he icot
the money, and yet you do not know who waste give
him the place ? A. Ido not know.
Q. (By Lord FOLKESTONE.) What military rank
did- Mr. Thompson get in the army ? A. A Cap-
taincy.—Q. Did you derive no advantage from the
negotiation ? A. None whatever —Then from what
motive did you engage in it ? A. Merely to otil*e
Mrs. Clarke—Q. -Do you know Mr. Lloyd.? A. No.
—Q. Are you quite positive ? A. I am.—Q. Did
you never write to him , A. Never.—Q. Recollect
yourself ? A. I never did in my You are
confident of that ? A. Quite.—Q. Did you e er ste
Lodowick ?•• A. Never.-.—Q. You negociated the af-
fairs of Williams and Thompson? A. Yes.—,Q. Did
M.TS. Clarke apply to you .to get them situations ?
A. She did.—Q. Did you owr tell her j'eteeniployed
.a third person to use .his. influence ? :A.. Never: I

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said I should enquire.—Q. Are you certain of
that ? A. I ant.—Did you ever say you should
elonire of a t/hird person for the appointment?---
A. Yes ; I said I should enquire.—Q. Did you name
'i'indal ? A. Nu.—Q. By whom were you introduc-
e! to Tindal ? A. I met him at Mr. Robins's, in
Bat tlett-buildings.—Q. Did you ever see Barber ? A.
as. —Q. About Lodowick's business ? A. Yes.—
&j. Did you ever see or write to Lloyd ? A. -No.—
Q. Can you say that these transactions yon
have mentioned were the only ones of the kind in
which you were concerned ? A. I cannot recollect.
—Q. Recollect ? A. I believe there were others.—
Q. What others ? A. There was a clerkship in the
War Mice.—Q. When was that affair negociatel ?
A. In August last.—Q. Was it at Mrs. Clarke's re-
quest that you enquired about this appointment ? A.
I think sn..-11Q. Did you succeed ? A. No; it could
not be effected.—Q. What were you to have received
in case the place had been obtained ? A. Nothing.—
Q. In whose behalf was the application made ? A.
do not know.—Q. What sum was to have begat
given for it? A. I believe about 3 or k.400.—Q.
To whom did you apply ? A. To Tindal.—Q. Did
you negociate for any other office ? A. Ido not re-
collect.—Q. Did you negociate for a place for Mr.
Russel Manners in 1806 ? A. No.
Q. What transaction's had you with Mrs. Clarke
i,i 18(6 ? A. None.—Q. Did you see Mrs. Clarke
from 1806 to 1808 ? A. No, I did not.—Q. Wiu;re
did Mrs. Clarke live when you saw her ? A. In
Holies-street.—Q. In what month was that ? A. It
was before she went to Bedford-plact.—Q. Did you
go voluntarily to see her, or did she invite you ? A.
She wrote to me.—Q. For what purpose ? A. Ido
not recollect.—Q. Was it for the purpose of your
getting a place ? A. No, it was not.—Q. Are you
positive of that ? A. Yes.—Q. When did the first
transaction take place after the Court-Martial ? A. I
think in August : it was Thompson's.—Q. Did you
ever succeed? A. No, never.—Q. It was only your
own good nature which induced you to interfere ? A.
Merely to oblige Mrs. Clarke, and get the accounts
liquidated.—Q. How could you get the accounts li-
quidated, when Mrs. Clarke had no influence with the
Duke of York ? A. She told me she had influence.
—Q. Are you positive of that ? A. I certainly un-
derstood her so.—Q. How often have you seen Tin-
dal ? A. I cannot tell.—Q. Did you ever ask him
how he was to obtain the appointments ? A. Yes, I
asked him once about Lodowick's.—Q. What an-
swer did he make ? A. He
.said it was through the
Willesley interest. (A laugh.)
Q. By Mr. WALLACE.) What led you to apply
to Tindal ? A. He was my acquaintance, and an
agent.— Q. How had Tindal power to procure
places ? A. I do not believe he had any personally.—
Q. Yet you applied to him when success was not
probable ? A. I did it from his own statement.—Q.
Did he negociate for you before your acquaintance
wi:h Mrs. Clarke ? A. No, I did not know him.
Q. (By Sir JAMES HALL.) Did Mrs. Clarke ever
give you reason to suppose that the object of Mr. R.
Manuers would be effected ? A. Yes, she said she had
a letter from the Duke on the subject, stating, that he
would give him an appointment worthy
,of his name
and family.—Q. Did you see the letter, or was it
oily statedto y A. It was stated to me.—Q. Did
Mr. Manners say from whom he got the letter ? A.
I think he said it was from the Duke of York to
'Mrs. Clarke.—Q. Had you any conversation with
Mrs. Clarke on the subject of the letter ? A. I do not
recorect.—Q. Did any thing ever pass in Mr. Man-
ners's presence with Mrs. Clarke before you, relative
to the appointment? A. No.—Q. Did you act gra-
tuitously, or for money ? A. I hoped my accounts
would be liquidated.
Q. (By a Member.) Had you any credit with
Birch and Co. ? A. No.—Q. Nor Mrs. Clarke ? A.
No. Ido not know.—Q. How in cases of this kind
is the money secured ? A. It is deposited in the bank-
ing-house of one of the parties.
Q. (By Mr. DAVIS.) Did you ever get any money
at Birch and Co.'s? A. No.—Q. You went to Col-
chester with Mrs. Clarke ? A. Yes, I did.—Q. Did
yOu not swear at the Court-Martial there that you
had not seen Mrs. Clarke for some weeks or months be-
fore the trial? A. NM said I had not M e.I her for some
time until the trial.—Q. Are' you positive ? A. Yes,
indei.d ; I had no idea I was saying any 'thing dif-
ferent now from what I then said. I had mace a
mistake on the trial, which I corrected.
Q. (Try Sir G. WAIMENDER.) On any transaction
of this kind, did you mention the Duke of Portland's
name ? A. No.

not tell to what they referred, tut at
ter era's he
l
was sure it could not be to any point ,t)io *view
inquiry. . -
Mr. CROAKER was ab-nit to make some further
observations, when he was interrupted by a CORtilla#4
cry of .. Go on, go.on!"
Sir T. TURTON wished Mrs. Clarke should lie
asked whether llieie were the letters to which the Ho-
nourable Colonel alluded a few nights ago.
Mrs. Ci.mucketvas now called in. She produced
the letters u! the Duke of York, and one of )..)octor
O'Meara's. She said, 44 I wish to prove to the
House that 1 v. as not telling a story the other night,
when I referred to General Claverin,g : he said he
had not consulted me on military promotion. Now
the truth is, I understood he was a distressed man
with a large family, and I first got him a district,
then a Brigadier Generalship, and he last of all ap-
plied to me for a regiment ; here is a letter from;the
Duke, in which he'is mentioned. This letter (pro-
ducing another,) is from the Archbishop of 1 uam
is recommendation of Dr. O'Meara, and directed to
the Doctor himself. On this subject I received an
apology from the Duke of York, stating at the same
time that he would recollect the Doctor. Here is
another letter from Captain Shawe, clued the Downs,
*ere he went to the Cape of CK o 1 Hope, c )inplaining
of being put on half pay." Mrs. Clarke Wing given
all the letters to the Clerk, withdrew.
Mr. WARDLE here said it would be 'necessary,
for the purpose of making those letters evidence, that
the hand writing should be identified.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
conceived, if Mrs. Clarke could vouch for the iden-
tity of the hand-writing, in the letter she produced,
from her own knowledge, it would be quite sufficient ;
if any doubt arose, it was easy to. callin Mr. Maltby,
who would of course be enabled to recognise his own
hand-writing ; and, with respect to the writing of the
Duke of York, Mrs. Clarke could not well be Mis-
taken.
Mrs. Clarke was then called in again to prove the
hand writing of his Royal Highness the Duke of York,
Mr. Maltby, and Mr. Barber.
Q. (By Mr. WARDLE). Have you seen the Duke
of York write ? A. I have. These two letters are
in his Royal Highness's own hand writing. When
his Royal Highness addressed any letters to me, the
superscription on the outside was always in a feigned
hand, but the whole of what is inside in these two
letters is the usual hand writing of the Duke of York.
Q. How did you come by the possession of the
Archbishop of Tuam's letter ? A. It was left by
accident after I returned Dr: O'Meara's documents.
T did not destroy it, because I thought it might at
some future time be useful to him.—Q. Through
what medium- did you get Colonel Shaw's letter ?
A. I think it was from Coitus's. Colonel Shaw de-
red that when I wrote to him, I should address him
under cover to Coutts, and that the clerks would take
care of the letter. 1 am-not certain, but I believe I
received the letter by a private hand.—Q. Do you
know Colonel Shaw's hand writing.? A. I do.—Q.
Is that letter in Colonel Shaw's hand writing ? A.
It is.—Q. Did you ever see Dr. O'Meara ? A. Very
often indeed.—Q. Who is he ? A. An Irish gentle-
man and a clergyman.—Q. Where was the Arch-
bishop of Tuam's letter found ? A. Amongst my
own papers. Dr. O'Meara sent me several letters
for it ; but it was not until about six months since
that I found it.—Q. Did Dr. O'Meara send you that
letter ? A. He did.—Q. At what time ? A. Ido
not recollect.—Q. How long since ? A. Whilst I
lived in Gloucester-place.—Q. In what year ? A.
In the year 1806.
Q. Did Dr. O'Meara, in sending that letter to
you, direct any use to be made of it? A. He direct-
ed that I should shew it to the Duke of York, with
other papers.--Q. Was it about the time that the
Duke of York went to Lord Chesterfield's ? A. It
was previous to that Dr O'Meara gave me his docu,
ments. lam not sure that this fetter was amongst
them ' • but I am positively certain that I had it
from his own hands.
The witness was then ordered to withdraw, when
the several letters from Mr. Maltby and Mr. Barber
were read. They contained nothing more than the
ordinary forms of'application for the officers referred
to in the evidence of Mr. Maltby. In one of his let-
ters, however, Mr. Maltby, after thanking Mrs.
Clarke for her kind attentions, declared that she
would be a treasure to any Secretary of State. (This
Massage excited immoderate laughter in every tart and upon
every side of the House.)
Various receipts and other documents respecting
the sums lodged at Messrs. Coutts' and Birch's bank.

Q. (By Mr. HusstussoN.) Why did not Lodo- ing-houses, liy Mr Lodowick, were also read.
wick's appointment take place ? A. Because a new Sir GEORGE HILL took that opportunity to
arrangement had been made. acquaint the Committee of all that had passed be-
Q. (Ity Lord For.asTosi.:;) Had you any transac- tween him and Mr. Maltby, as some allusions had
tions respecting a Wiitership or Cadetship to India ? .been made to it in the course of the examination that.
A. No; except once. I was asked for one.—Q. By evening. By the will of the late Mr. Beresford, Mr.
whom ? A. Mr. Do: mean.—Q. Do you know him? J. C. Beresford and himself became tenants to the'
A. Yes.— Q. Was it procured ? A. No ; the nego- Fishmongers' Company, in consequence of which he
tiation was stispt.ndecl.Q. What sum was to be became acquainted with the Secretary, Mr. Maltby.
given for it ? A. Ido not knuw.—Q. Are you a On the morning after that Gentleman's name had
Lawyer ? A. Yei.;. —Q. Were you aware this was an been mentioned by one of the witnesses at the Bar,
illegal transaction ? A. No.—Q. How ofien have he met him, and asked whether he had seen the pa-
you (employed Donovan? A. Only once.—Q. On pers that morning, and finding he had not, he mene
what other occasion did you see him ? A. I called coned what had passed to Kn. The next day Mr.
En hint once, as he knew Lord Moira, whose sister Maltby visited him at the Hotel where he resided, to
had returned from abroad, and from whom I had ask his advice as to the course he should pursue, and
hoped for sonic information relative to a female rela- whether lie should call on Mr. Wardle. He had re-
tion of my own who had been in the same place.— commended to him, not to have any intercourse with
t. 2. What place ? A. Vienna.—Q. Did you ever see Mr. Wardle, stating at the same time, that he might
ur write to Mrs. Clarke, since 12506 ? A. Yes. I be summoned to attend the House, in -order to his
wrote to her on the subject of a bill of exchange men- being examined. He also asked-him whether he had
tioned at the Court Martial. communicated with any of the members of the Fish-
Q. (By Sir J. HALL.) Did you receive no money monger's Company, who are members of that House.
as a Solicitor fin.' thirse transactions E A. Ido much That was all that passed, and, in stating it, he had
business gratuitously. no wish but to set himself right with the Committee.
The witness was withdrawn. The notes of Cal. M'Mahon were then read. •
On the suggestion of Lord FOLKSTONE, Mrs. The first contained an expression of his compli-
Clarke was called in relative to some letters of Mr. ments to Mrs. Clarke, and an apology for his not
Maltby ; she produced, two letters, and proved the having answered her letter sooner, not having re-
hand-writing ; she also produced sonic letters of Bar- , ceived it until the day before. The delay arosefrom
bees, and some of Colonel M'Mahon's. On her his having been in the country, to which, though his
withdrawing, a Member wished the letters of Colo- head-quarters had been removed to town, be was
reel MNahon should not be read, as they could not glad to avail himself of any opportunity of? making
possibly point at any fact relative to the present en- an excursion for three or four days. This note con-
• chides with an assurance of his readiness to comply
Colonel MNAHON requested that no delicacy with Mrs. Clarice's desire.
with respect to him should prevent the House from The second note, dated Friday, declares, that
ilislogthe letters read, as Mrs. Clarke bad menaced Colonel M,Mahou would be most happy; to promote
escos'a.-bloa in hiltrue 'ethers, by the revealment of Mrs. C.'s wishes. It states that he mild not see
ago jettess. He lept:no copies of them, and could. biro pereaing thrlitessefressii.that day to he pn,

des itUad that he was to go to Windsor that day. Ile
would, however, egdeavour to haie ans;,igtervie*
wit'h Urn upon thebusiness,.and romigunicate to her
the *est&
The third note assures Mrs. Clarke that nothing
bnt indisposition, and the not being able to commu-
i a•e good neWs to her, would have prevented Colo-
nel MiMthou from writing to her before. Whilst he
lamented, however, his total inability to serve her, he
had the satisfaction to add, that.in the _interviews
which he had had with Mrs. Clarke, conduct and
conversation were such-as to command his respect.
*The Duke of Yong's Letters were next read, and
were as follows :

the rules of the Courts of Justice, vrhich -.vere
lated by the wisest maxims and principles,
merely a party practice. Where these rules
attended to, justice would be done ; but whet 2
should be departed from, nothing but party
ence, and prejudice, and misconduct, would 13+
cane( u mce.

The question was relinquished after a few
fr in: Sir TIIOMAS Tuitrow ; and the witness was
ato
called in and examined by Mr. WARDLE.
Q. If I uncle:van& you, you held not the sann:
tuation you do at present always in the hous,!
Messrs. Birkett A. Not at the time of the pur:ii
of the plate.—Q. What situation did you hold :la
- at that time? A. That of Journeyman.--Q. r
-- n
own knowledge, do you know that the plate Ar
purchased of 'Birkett ? A. Perfectly.—Q,
know the price that was paid for the plate ? A. T
books which I have been ordered to bring will
that.—Q. Do you know of your own knowledge
pfice that was .paid.for them ? A. By referer..:e
the books, I can know it,.—Q. Do you kr,r.v
price without referring to the books ? A. Cert.,:;
not.—Q, Do you not of your own knowledge k
the sum that WAS to have been paid, or that was ”.
for the plate ? A. The books are here, and thee .%
chew I repeat the question— A.
tell exactly the
.amount : I don's recollect the ,sx.
sum.--Q. Do you of your own knowicdee kto.a•
whorir the plate belontel before it was pure'.:,
'am' sent to Gloucester Place ? A. Yes : to the;),
de Do you know of any part or the pl
I having been sent up to Gloucester Place s 'Or t:„
spettion. of the Duke of York and Mrs. Clarke
Not to my recollection.—Q. Do you recollect
Duke of York and Mrs. Clarke being at Mr. Birke
and examining the plate in his shop? • A. No.—;
Do you recollect any thing with regard to the p
ment of the price for the plate ? A. I do ; five L.
dyed pounds were paid when the plate was
'and the remainder by bills, at different dates.—D
State by whom the fivelundred pounds were pa':
A. It was paid to Mr. Birkett, but I do not km
by whom.—Q. Do you know whether it was paic
caJi or bank-notes, or how else ? A. It was paid
two bank-notes, one for £3OO, the other for £(
Q. Do you recollect by whom and upon whom
bills for the remainder were drawn ? A. To the
of my 'recollection, by Mrs. Clarke upon the Duk,
York.—Q. Do you, of your own knowledge, kr
that these bills were afterwards paid by the Dub
York ? A. I certainly do.—Q. Did you you;
offer these bills to the Duke of York for payee(
4. I did.--Q. Did you see the Duke of York w
you went to offer the bills for payment ? A.
I did.—Q. Du you recollect what conversa,
passed between you and the Duke of York w
you offered the bills for payment ? A. I do nc
Q. Do you recollect the Duke of York ever spt
ing respecting the service of plate ? .a. No, I do
—Q. How did the Duke of York settle these
A. By his own drafts upon Coutts.—Q. Do you r.
to state, that the whole amount due for the servi.:
plate, over and above the £5OO, wfs paid by
Duke of York by these bills .? A. Certainly.
Mr. Parker was then called in on the motio:
Mr. WARDLE, with Mr. Birkett's bo9ks.
Q. By Mr. WARDLE to the former witness—ls
any person how residing in the house of Mr. Bii
who held the situation you hold at presentb at the
when the service of plate was purchased ? A. N
Q. Do you know who the person is who held thi
tuation then ? and where he is ? A. The person
held the situation is dead. —Q. What was his ra
A. Robert Walker.
The books and account were then shewn to
witness; and he was asked !.iy Mr. WARDLE whf
the account entered in the book of the service di
sent to Mrs. Clarke's was the same as that he ha.
f alluded to—whether the account and the
were the s :me ?

The first had the Worthing post-mark upon it, aid
was dated August 4, 1805.
" How can
,I sufficiently express, to my sweetest
darling love, the delight, which your dear—,dear,
pretty letter gave me—or how do justice to the emo-
tions it excited ! Millions—millions of thanks for it,
my angel, and be assured, that my heart is wholly
fixed on ?your affection. lam quite hurt, my love,
that you did not go to the Lewes Races. It was kind
of you to think of me on the occasion. But you
know me too well to suppose, that I could think of
adding to the sacrifices which I am but too sensible
you have made to me. News, my angel, you cannot
expect from me from hence, for the life I lead here
is in the family, and .I am hurrying them to leave
this, that I may the sooner return to clasp
.my angel
In my arms. Except Lord Chesterfield's family,
there is not a person here but ourselves that I know.
Last night the play went off better than the night
before. Dr. O'Meara gave me .your letter. He
wishes to preach before royalty, and I shall endeavour
to procure him the occasion. What a long time it is,
my darling, since we pasted! I shall long for Wed-
nesday se nnight, that I may return to my love's
arms. Adieu.—Your's, and your's alone."

The second letter was dated Sandgate, August,
and was to the following effect :
" How can I sufficiently express my thanks to my
love for her dear, dear letter, and the assurances it
contained of love. Oh, my angel, how you are. be-
loved ! Every day convinces me more and more how
much my happiness depends upon her affection. How
I long for the day after to-morrow, to return to my
love, to clasp her in my fond arms. General Claier-
ittg, my love, is mistaken. There are no new regi-
ments to be raised; they are only second battalions
that are to be formed ; so that his business cannot be
done, and tell him so. Ten thousand thanks, my
dearest love, for the handkerchiefs. The knowledge
of the hands by which they were made will make
them much more gratifying in the wearing. Every
thing has turned to my satisfaction upon my tour. I
yesterday inspected the works along the coast to
Folkestone. Yesterday too I reviewed the 14th regi-
ment of dragoons, which is a fine body of men, and
in a high state of discipline. I also reviewed four
regiments of militia, which took up thirteen hours.
To-day Igo to Braybourne Lees, and to-morrow to
Hastings. Adieu, my love, till the day after to.
morrow."

These letters having been read, the House was is
an uproar of laughter for several minutes.
Mr. DOCHERTY) superintendant of the business in
the house of Messrs. Birkett, was called in and exa-
mined by Mr. WARDLE.
Q. Do you know any thing of the transaction re-
specting the purchase of a service of plate which was
sent to Mrs. Clarke at Gloucester-place ? A. Yes
—Q. Relate what you know of that purchase ; what
of the manner in which it commenced, and what till
the bargain was concluded ? A. All that I know of
it is, that on the application of Mr. Corri, the service
of plate was sent to Gloucester-place ; but as I was
not a partner in the house I know nothing more of the
business.—Q In what character were you in the house
when that service of plate was purchased ? A. That
of a servant.—Q. Its what employment ? A. A jour-
neyman.—Q. What particular business do you now
perform in the service of Messrs. Birkett ? A. I su-
perintend the whole business.—Q. Do you recollect
any of the particulars respecting the bargain for that
service of plate of your own knowledge ? A. Nothing
further than lit-hat was mentioned by Mr. Birkett.—.
Q. Do you mean to state that neither the Duke of
York nor Mrs. Clarke ever, in your presence, exa-
mined or treated about the service of plate ? A. Cer-
tainly not.—Q. What did you hear the Duke of
York or Mrs. Clarke say, when making the bargain
for that plate ? A. The bargain concerning that plate
was not made in my presence.—Q. Then you mean
to say that the bargain was nut made in your pre-
sence ? A. Certainly.—Q, What did Mr. Birkett
say to you respecting this transaction ? •
An objection was taken to this question, and the
witness ordered to withdraw.

The ATTORNEY GENERAL observed upon
the dangerous tendency of letting in such hearsay
evidence of what had been said by a man now dead.
Lord TEMPLE considered, that as Mr. Birkett
was now dead, the declaration of the witness was the
best evidence the House could have of the statement
of Mr. Birkett.

Mr. FULLER exclaimed that there never had
been started so extraordinary an idea as that.

Mr. LEYCESTER coincided with his Learned,
Friend, that it was impossible to admit such evidence..
Mr. WARDLE, in consequence of what had
been- stated by the Learned Gentlemen opposite in
the face of the House and of the public, on the sub
ject of evidence, cbuld not think it proper for him to
press the question against their authority ; and should
therefore endeavour to nome at the fact through the
medium of such other-channels as were within his
reach.

Mr. WHITBREAD contended, that testimony
quite as loose as that objected to had been already
placed on the minutes. The Hotise of Commons
was not bound by the rules of evidence observed in
inferior courts. The inquisitorial power of Parlia-
ment authorised a departure .from the strict rules of
evidence, in order to come 'at the knowledge of '
transactions Which could not otherwise be sifted.* If
this inquisitorial power was to be ;riven up, it was
high time for the House to iesign all its other powers.
IVIr. LEYCESTEI( had not said that the House
was bound by the rules pf evidence observed in the
Courts below. It was not easy to draw the line be-
tween the evidence that &add and the evidence that
ought not to be admitted at the Rio of that Hollis ;
but be bed nodeubt that. the ',Wows Pefer" by
the iiiosiamrable Goodson:a was sot adatiesoble.
ruuza elesnadt that anylerstige •,

A. The notes entered in this book are the
that were paid for the plate.—Q. State the alth
of the whole ? A. The amount of the who;
£lB2l I Is. 4d. This sum includes the N5OO w

was paid on the deli try of the plate.
Q. (By the ArronNEv GEN f.:RA L) Is this ace
headed A. It is.—Q. How ? A. Mrs. Cl
debtor..

The witness was then ordered to withdraw,
Mrs. Hovenden was called in.

.42. (Examined by Mr. WARra.x) Do you lm
Mrs Clarke A. Yes.—Q. Do you know• Col
Shaw A. I never saw him but once.—Q.

what yoli recollect to have passed at that inters,:
A. I had been negociating an exchange for Co]
Shaw with Mrs. Clarke, and lie.ivished to know
principal. In consequence of which I sent
Mrs. Clarke, but desired him not to tell Mrt. Ci
that Mr. Donovan knew any thing of her businet
Q. State what passed at that only interview you
with Col. Shaw ? A. That was all that passed en
my giving him a note or a card, s.►ying that Le
Major Shaw.—Q. Why did you wish to: keep
name of Mr. Donovan secret from Mrs. Clarke'?
Because Mrs. Clarke was afraid that Mr. Don
Would mention► the matter to the Duke of York,
that would be her ruin.—Q. When did Mrs. Cl.
express her fear respecting Mr. Donovan's being
quainted with the transaction ? A. The first

ever saw her.—Q. Was this before you multi(
Col. Shaw to Mrs. Clarke ? A. Yes.—Q. Did
ever mention Colonel Shaw t o Mrs Clarke beJ
your interview . with Colonel Shaw ? A. I saw
Shaw but once, ,and Mrs. Clarke but .twice sin'
Q. I repeat the question ? A.. I had mEntiobed
Shaw to Mrs. Clarke a long time before I saw .
I believe three months before.—Q. In what war
you mentioned Colonel Shaw to Mrs Clarice ?
a Gentleman who wanted to get a Lieutenantl
nelcy from a, Majority. Q. How did you know
he wanted a Li eutenant-Coloneleyi A. Ai ter
seen. Mrs Clarke, I mentioned to Mr. Donov,
gentleman whom j have known for a long time.
I had got 'very great interest, and that if any
were wanted in the army line, I thought I cold
it, without; however mentioninghow or from W.
—Q. Was it Mr. aniovan that first mentic,ned
Shaw to you, and wliat-did he state respecting hi
you ? A. It-was, and. he said that he had gie•
commendations, I- believe general Burrard'g.
What further did he say of Shaw to you? A. lit
that be wuuki sive t) () if the exchange cou
effected. I shah OW • was the sum.—Q. V
did the case tics taikeplace ?A. In Charles-
' likbak.—Q. Were yua ;eget any part of the nn