Star.
London, England, 1801-06-09 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF FORDS, MONDAY, JUNE 8.

Mr. ADAM and Mr. CULLEN were heard for the Repos.
dent in the Appeal Caufe Bruce v. Crum, and Mr. Alexander
In reply IA the Apprllant ; after which the further confidera-
dem eg the mute vr.ls put off to Thurfaay nest.
The Report of the Scotch Militia Officers' His was received,
and after an amendment made in one Ulaufe by Lord Hobart,
weed to.
The Ettports of the Seket Committee of the Houk of
Cosn-
moas of their Sunding Orders on Enelofore 1111 h, were ordered
toile referred to the Lords' Committees on Enclofures.
The Revolt of the Seledt Committee of the Houk of Com-
Mons on the Eligibility of Clergymen to lit in the Monte of
Commons, was brought up by Mailer Wilmot, and ordered
to be pi inted.•AdjOtade&
HIS MAJIISTY'S lIIISSAIS E.
The Order for taking his lvtajefty's Meffage in-
to conficieration having been'read,
The SiCSIITALY of Slays (Lord Hobart) rofe
and Paid, it would not be neceffary for him to de-
tain 'their Lordihipi by any fpeeeh on the fabled
of the Meffige under confideration, or the Addrefs
he meant to move upon it, the Menge (peaking
for itfelf. Their Lordflrips were all aware, that
it had been a refleflion on our army, who had dif-
tingulihed themfelves lately by the molt brilliant
condo& in the field, liat a Public Inftitution or
College for the education of Gentlemen defined
for a military life in the (deuce of that profeifion,
was not provided in this country. The goodcon-
fequences that muft neceffarily refult from fuel an
inilitution were too obvious to Rand in need of
; and although there were Lords in that
Houfe who had underftocid the pradice of their
profelEort fufficiently to have been able not to feel
the want of fcientific acquirement while they were
in the fervice, yet of late years the defed had been
felt, which made it extremely defitous that fome
inflitntinn of pradical fcience in the Art Military
Ihould be inilituted. Feeling this, the illuftnous
perfon at the head of the army had attempted to
make an experiment for this objea, and a tempo-
rary fchool was appointed, the good effed of which
had been fenfibly felt in Egypt. This having been
rcprefented to his Majeftyll with that paternal re•
gard to the benefit of his fubjedls, which has ever
di ftinguiftted his condud, his Majefty has been gra-
eioufly to take the fubjed into his Royal
confederation, and had commanded the Meffage
before the Houfe to be brought down to Parlia-
ment. His Lorcifhip Paid it would be unneceffary
to add any thing further, and he would therefore
move the Addrefs. The Addrefs having been read,
The Earl of CAZNARVON objected to the Ad,
drefs, as committing the Houfe to a pofitive
adoption of the plan, whether they approved it or
not, when the detail of it fhould be Rated to the
Houfe. He underftood from the Noble Secretary
of State, that he only meant to affure his Majelly
in the Adtlrefs, that the Houfe thanked his Ma.
jelly for his gracious communication, and would

take the fubjelt into their conlideration when pro-
perly explained to them.
The SECRETARY of STATE explained, that the
Addrefs did not pledge any one Noble Lord to
an approbation of any fpecific plan of a Military
• Innittition, but to Tome propolition on that fobjeit
which might meet with general approbation in
• that Houfe.
• Marquis Towseusvn raid, the fubjed of the
Meffige and the Addrefs met with his hearty con-
currence ; fo fully was he perfuaded of the necef-
fity and utility of a Military School or College,
that many years ago, when he had the honour to be
at the head of the Ordnance, he had himfelf, in
concert with other military men of rank in their
profeffion, fubmitted a plan for the purpofe to Go-
vernment, and fuggeßed the-provety of purchaf
ing the house of Sir Gregory Page Turner, at
Blackheath, which premifes might have been
bought cheap, and were undeniably calculated for
an extenfive application of the obje&, the park and
grounds being.peculiarly adapted for artillery ex-
ereifes, and praCtical experiments. At that time,
his Lordfhip raid, he had been over-ruled by per-
fons poffeffed of greater influence and authority
than himfelf, but had the plan been adopted, he
aras perfuaded the Houfe would by this time have
derived effential advantages from the inititution ;
he therefore was glad to find, that fomething like
it was about to be brought forward, and gave his
complete concurrence to the Addrefs.
. The Earl of SUFFOLK faid, he alto gave his
concurrence to the Addrefs, if we were to have a
Standing Army, a fcientific and prat:Heal know-
Je.ll4e niche duty of an officer in all fituations that
might prefent themfelves in a campaign could not
but be important and ufeful. Difcipline among
folciiers was every thing, and its good effeas had
b-en manifcft in the prefent war. The Addrefs
was voted.
The SECRETARY of STATE then .prelented a
Mefrage from his Majelly, hoping that the Houfe
of Lords would concur in enabling his Majefly
to provide for the exigencies of the Government
during the recefi of Parliament, as the time was
near it hand when his Malay expelled to be able
to.p..pt an end to the Sedion.
alte Earl of Detrital, faid, that asthe Minifter
. was Pent, he had expofte.! to hear, and hopedhe
shouldprehear from him, fume 'account of the prof.
pet of public affairs, which Parliament were enti-
tied to be made acqukinted with. It was gene.
Tally underflood that fomething like a negociatioa
.vas going on with the French republic, and al-
though the affairs wi th the Northern Powers wore
at relent rather 2 favourable afprift, they might
take an adterfc turn —Some time fence he bad
great bitmiiity taken the liberty to endeavour
so awaken the Haute to a fenfe of its importance
and dignity, and had hoped that he might have
rn able to haw. induc,:d their Lordfhips to af-
rt their independence in the Conftitution. If
no anfwer was given to the queftion he had put, it
would be evident that Milliners meant to Malt
Parliament as a cypher and nothing more.
•• Lord Hoaasr faid, he had net been command-
communication as the Noble
When he bad fuels commands,
• be-affured that le would

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Lord CLIVTAM •then
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