Star.
London, England, 1807-08-04 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

General TARI.ETON prefented a Petition from the Propee-
torn of certain Salt Work, at Liverpool. againft the frith Salt BM.
lately pending, but which bad received thio day the Royal Affent
_ _

After fame eonverfation between General TARLETON and
Mr. SHERIDAN, the Petition was ordered to lie on the fable.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEIZJER reported to the
Mcrae bis Majefty's molt gracious anfwer to the Addrefs of the
Houfe relpeaing the granting of places In reverfion, that his Ma.
jetty would pay fuck attention thereto, as the natuee of the cafe
required. Al(, his Majefty% gracious anfwer to the other Ad-
dreffes of the Houfe refpeeting the grants of feffional allowances
to the Officers c•ld Servants of the Houfe, that his Mikity would
give the neeeffary .direEtions refpcaing the fame.
The Hqufe then proceeded to take fueeeffively into eonfidera•
tion the feveral amendments made by the Lords on Bills (ent up
by the Houle, and now returned, and the feveral amendments
were agreed to, or fubfequently fettled by conference with the
Lords.

General LOFTUS moved for a Copy of the Aofwer fent by
Mars. Greenwood and Co. to the Letter from the Paymafter's
Office, together with a Copy of the Account prefented with the
fall Letter.

Mr. LONG raid it was impoffible to by before the Houre any
full and fatishetory account upon the filbjesft, until the whole '
of the Army Agents' accounts were balanced. He was ready to
admit that a large balance was due to Mari Cox and Green-
wood. hut he was not yet prepared to admit that their own (fate-
went was right The aceounti in the Pay Office were greatly
in arrears, an i until they were gone through, It was impotlitile to
afeertain the real Rate of all the balances and arrears. But he
hoped, in the next Seflion of Parliament, to bring forward a
ineafure for accelerating a purpofe fo dtlirable.
General L.ol7ll.lS's motion was agreed to.
A potion from the Tranfport Office prefented, variant to order,

PRICE SIR.PENCR.
1

a return of Fite Tranfpotts employed for home ferviee nn the 'jai
of Match; tBz6 and •Bcy refpedively, dlltingulfhing thofe for
cavalry, Ind thofe that were copper fheathed.--Ord,red to lie co
the table. _ , _ _

The CHANCELLOR of the EX7 -IEQPF.It. afer fett prci•
ilmiiiary o.,tervatione, moved an humble Addreft to his Majeftyi
praying that he would be graeloully pleated to order's fum of 53001.
to be given to Ileac fln Efq at, Alutrican Loyalift, In COQ.
f &ration of Loftea ft:Rained by ltha in the Service of the
Country, doting the American war—and that thin Hoare make
good the fame.
Mr. WHITBREAD not only agreed lathe fpirit of the mot
but thought the tutu ought to have been to,ocrl. in conformity
to the Report of the Committee appointed to confider thee:Lim a
Mr. Du Bois.

A converfation of eonfiderable length enfued. In which Dodoe
Lawrence and Mr Windham ruppor.ed the idol' of Mr Whitbread,
and Mr. Role, Mr. Sturges Bourne, and Mr.liulkiiron, furport•
ed that of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
The motion, however, was agreed to as was a fubliequent mo•
tion for a umilar grant of semi. to General Mariln, for the Mkt
fuitained by him in the American war.

STATE OF IRELAND.

Mr. SHERIDAN role, and fpoke to the follow.
ing etre& It is with force regret that I find this
day that matters of minor confederation have already
occupied much of your time; and that now, as on
Monday laff, I am obliged to addrefs you when
your attention has been fomewhat exhaufled—but,.
al-hough I have now come to the WI day of the
S (lion, and almoß to the lag hour, and know how
anxioufly Gentlemen with to feparate for the prefent
feafon, yet I feel myfelf impelled, by a flrong fenfe
of duty, nc.w to bring forward that motion, of which,
have already given notice. It is not my fault that
I am fa late in bringing forward this important fob.
jai ; I was ready on Monday laic, but the day was
taken up in other bufinefs. The prop-)fition which I
then meant to fubrrit to the Houle, was in confew
(pence of two Bills which have been, a very fhort
time fit,ce, brought into Parliament, and one of
which has only this day paired into a law. I then
thought, and do Rill think, that if the Refolution
which I have the honour to propofe. to you, (hould
he agreed to by the Houle, and go over to Ireland,
at the fame time with thufe Bills, it would have a
great effefl in preventing that imaitation which the
Bills might otherwife produce, in mitigating thole
feelings which mutt, in Tome mcafure, be excited.
As to thole Bills which were intended to have been
I brought in by the late Adminittration, I (hall far
nothing of them. I hope noiv to gain almoft the
unanimous fenfe of the Hook to the propofoion that
I mean to fubmit to them, and I :hall not, therefore,
RA) to draw comparilons between the Miniiters who .
were to have introduced thole Bills, with the Mini.
fiers who have introduced the prefent Bills. I
n t take 'nto confiieration the great.differerice that it •
makes when we are giving. great powers...to ennfider
into whole hands this power is to be committed. I
nal not confider whether or not this power would
not have been leis formidable in the hands of bliailters
who had (hewn themfelves in every all, and in every
lenti:uent they delivered, as the friendi of Ireland
—whole policy to Ireland was always boon and
conciliation. I (ball not confider whcti:er it would
he lefs alarming, that the powers to be given to the
Lord Lieutenant were to be yelled in Inch a man as
the Duke of Bedford, who had already proved to
the people of Ireland that he never could be per.
fouled to rellt to the extraordinary powers veiled
in him, as long as the laws of the country were fuffi.
cient to maintain its peace. In Cuing this, Ido not
mean to throw the kali refielion upon the Noble
Duke (the Duke of Richmond) who is 'now Lord
Lieutenant. I fincerely hope that he will follow
the conßitutional clnduet of his predeceffor. On a
former occafion, when circunillances prevented me
from bringing forward my prefent bunion, it gain-
ed at lead one fatisfaetion from the delay. It gave
mean opportunity of (hewing my motion round to
many of the Members of the Houle, and I found that
there was fotnething like a unanimous concurrence
in the obje& of it. I feel there is nothing wio•ing
to carry the objet of it int., compleat execution, but
a calm and temperate review of the fitu?tion of af-
fairs in Ireland ; and as i fcarcely heard any objec-
tion to the ref elution which I have to prop, fe from
any Member whom I (hewed it to, I flmuld conceive
it an impertinent and tifelef, inti oft >n t.n your tiara
for me to go at length in endeavouring to meet, and
anfwer arguments which I caanot well anticipate,
or to ufe many preliminary obfervations to .endeavour •
to induce you to agree to that, which I think' yon
cannot fejt& The principil argument that I forefee
again( my motion is, that this 'is fuch a delicate tub-`
jeti, that the let that can be laid about it the better ;
that the ground is fo tender, that it I; dangerous to
tread upon it. What is this,i but laying in other
words we mutt legillate for this country blin4folded I
Such is the argument that is' bled by his bfajeny's
Minillers. The Chancellor of the Exchequer con.
felled he knew but little of the Rated Ireland. The
great Law Officers of the Crown, the Attorney and
Solicitor General, did not pretend to know any tt,ing
more, nor did Minitters appear to with to know any
thing of Ireland. They are content to legiflate for
that country, without underfianding its real fituati n.
Can there be a fir9nger proof of this, than the differ-
ent lights and authorities by which the Houle were
influenced ? One great authority Pays, theme is no
Itendency to tumult or infum ration in Ireland ! ano-
ther, a Noble Lord, in another place, confirms the
flatement. When the troops are drawn away from
Ireland and fent to the Baltic, to API the views of
the King of Sweden, we are told there is no dan.
ger ; but yet, when thole Bills are brought into the
Houtz, we are told again that theme is great danger
and much tendency to infurreetion iu Ireland. Not.

withflanding all the whifpers 1 have heard, and the
hearfay authorities on which thole fcvere !mature*
are grounded, I find that molt of the public doom•
ments thew that the Rate of things in Irela-4 is dif-
ferent from tl.e account given by thole whifperers
upon wh, I authority Mtnifters feem entirely to rely.
In ti.e ~:.,unty of Tipperary, Judge Fox, at the aC-
fizes, congratulated the country on the peace it now
enj .vs. It is notorious that on the whole calendar
there was not a finale man found guilty of any al of

'edition or difloyalry. In the county of Kilkenny,
alfn. the ;:rand J:try of the county, in a folemn
trn.i authentic document, took notice of the harpy
• Rate of that count), if the harmony which exilled
between the Prot&Lints and the Catholics, and ex-
preffed their with that this happinefs and harmony
fhould he Hill farther increafed, by a full participa•
lion the Catholics, in all the bleffings of the Con•
flirtiti.m. There are and .uhtedly molt relpeetable
and netaltty authorities, that the (late of Ireland is
nor filch a• to require meatures of onufnal rig or
p..,1 feve•ity. Ott the other hand, we have an an-
thority whom no man tefpeets ,n-.t e highly than I d•,,
I mean the Right Hon( nrahle Repreleutative of
Dublin (Mr. Grattan.) I admire his great talents,
his independence and his int- grilc ; and, as an Irifh-
man, although I have principally refided in this
cuuntry, I feel a drbt of gratitude to biro far his
great exertions in former times for the independence
acid happinefs of Ireland. So hi hits do I refpeti
his private authority, that I cannot help balancing it
againit all thole —• eat authoiities on the other fide.
and feel confide doubt and hefitation how I
fhnuld determine in my own mind, wh-n thnfe fo.
lemn and deliberate documents which I have al-
luded to, are contraßed with his great authority.—
When there is this contradidinn among the authori-
ties, it appears to me that it is a great and, I will
fay, imperious duty. for Pail; rnent to take this im-
portan• fuhjed into its moll ferinus confiderati n.
Let it not be faid that we fly from the confiderati•ni
of the topic, and legiflate merely from hearfay !
Let it not be Paid that we are either prevented by
;lid, lence, or by a timid apprehenfion of danger,
from fairly confidering the grounds of thole extraor-
dinary meafures which have been retorted to with
re(ped to Ireland!
As to the charge of nfing inflammatory language,
•.ith a view to produce irritation and difcontent in
Ireland, I feel that it is a charge which will not at-
tach to me. 'I do not think it prefumptuons fir me
to lay, that nn man can be more free than myfelf
from the 101pieinn of wifhing t.i flir up fediti n, mu-
tiny. or di' illedion, in any part of the empi•e.—
( our cries of Hear : hear !) There is no man hiving
that fat, fee with more detellation than I do, there
Mile:able traitors (if any loch do exift in Ireland)
who would furrender the o)nflitutinn and liberties
of their country t,a foreign tyrant. Ido not deny
that tome filch wie,ches may exitt in Preland, but I
atnc,nvinced that their number is very (mall. When
I look at all the apperances, I cannot beliiwe there
is any danger of a general and alarming ipirit of in.
ftnredion in that country. On the contrary, if I
were to fupp-fe a foreigner, crunpletely a Itr anger to
our prejudices, had turned his attention to the af-
fairs of this empire, and of It eland in particular:—
I' think that fuch foreigner world rather fay, "
ngratulate the Government of this country on the
loyalty of the people of Ireland," and he would add,
I judge of this loyalty from four reafor.s. ifl.When the
Duke of Bedford was rafhly called upon by forme ill
judging men to proclaim a particular county he refuted
to do 10, and found thE the opetati,n of the ordinary
laws of the country was abundantly fufficient to 'c-
lime and preferve its tianquiliity. The fecond
round upon which I infer its loyalty, is from the
mdifpofition which it thews to tumult. Even when
you rejeßed the Catholic Bill( which might naturally
bf fuppofed to be a ground of irritation l they did
not thew the (calf difpofition to riot. Even when
you fent over all the feeds of tint wrapped up in your
proclamation to diffolve the Parliament, hill the•
people of Ireland fhewedno tendency to infrincElion.'
Such foreigner might go on and fay, In the third
place, I find, from what. has palled in Kilkenny and
Tipperary, that thole counties which were reprefen•
ted as difturbed, arc in the molt profound peace and
bat ninny ; and in the fourth place, when I fee you
withdrawfo large a portion of yOur army from Ire-
land, when I lie you take away the whole German
Legion, which appeared to be a force peculiarly cal-
culated to watch and put down infurredion, I Can•
not conceive that you can feel any faint's alarm on
account of the Bate of Ireland.' Such mutt be the
opinion of any impartial foreigner-7-Inch mull be the
idea of every man who would form his judgment
from falls, and not from heel fay, or the private au-
thority r findividuals.
4. I thould now with to hear from 11:s tlajelly's
Miniflers what kind of anfwer they could give to
loch a foreigner ? 'They would perhaps fay, as to
your firli ground, the Duke of Bedford was wrong in
not tiling thole extraordinary powers, and in content-
trig himfelf with the powers of the law. As to there
being no riots in Ireland, they would fay that was
all accident. They would fay, that Judge For, in
the Grand Jury of Kilkenny, did not know the Rate
of the counties of Tipperary and Kilkenny.as well as
they did ; but that, as to the fourth point, they did
not, withdraw the troops (tom Ireland without having
a molt excellent expedient to fupply the abfence of
them. If they had marched out an army, they in-
tended, at the fame time, to march in an At of
Pailiament. If they had withdrawn a legion, they
had introduced a law—(a laugh).--This expedient
would, to he fine, found' fomewhat grange in the
ears ol" a foreigner ; he 'would not readily underßand
that Ireland could be..as well gartifoned by Alts of
Parliament as by an 2014; If arc now to argue
the matter on tritifb. feelings, I will afk the Heufe,
why is it that they bo:4 that they intend to make the
people of England an armed people as far as it is
p„taok, when at the lime time tl-ey are determined
to make the people cf Ireland any thing but an ar-
med people? If you perlift in difarming the Will
people, and that country Ihould ever be invaded, I
have only two qnztlions to ail: you : When you have
taken from the Irith people their arms, what are they
to tight with ? Whcn.you have taken away their con-
iiitution, what are they to fight ?
66 But I am told by fume of thole high authorities,
that there is certainly a French faction exiting in
Iceland. I ails, when was there not,a French faition
in that country ? Since the days of goeen Elizabeth,
this country has put rued fuch a vile and narrow po-
re), towards Iceland, that naturally drove many of
Cie high fpirited youths of :hat country, who were
connected with the Cathrnic faith, to leek for an afy-
lim in France, from which they regularly cond.-
p.nided with their ft ields in Ireland. This was the
code that produced a french fadion in Ireland, and
ao Irina faiftion in Fiance. Before the ccnceffions
which were made in the coarfe nf the prefent reign,
the treatment of Ireland. was work than the treat-

meat of any country which ever had been conquered
and nppretted by the vilett of tyrant,. It is true,
that there n ere many important ennceffions during
the preterit reign. It is alto true, that there is a
mode of conferring benefits and boons that made the
obligation be little felt, and hardly excited gratitude.
There appeared to he an extraordinary vanity in the
modes that had been retorted to for oppretling Ire-
land. Sometimes it was done by attacking the rich,
f metinice, by grinding and fcourging the poor, and
at ether times by (hiking at the putinits of cr.mmer-
cial men. With all this variety of oppreftion, fume
•petrt le a ffeCted to confider it wonderful that the Irifh
had been a difcontented people. This reminds me
of a Rory I have heard, where an frith drummer
was one of the principal charafters. While he was
flogging a foldier, according to the fentence of a
court martial, the poor fellow, writhing with pain,
intreated him to change his mode of lathing him.
Sometimes he called to him to lirike a little higher,
and fometimes a little lower. The drummer endea-
voured to accommodate him as far as it was in his
power ; but finding it to no purpofe, at laft cried
out, " Upon my cnnfcience, you are a difcontented
fellow ; whether I (bike high or low, there is no
fuch thing as pleating you."—(a loud laugh). This
is precifely the cafe with retpett to Ireland. Not.
ithltanding the infinite variety of oppreffion exer-
cited againft them, there are Bill a number of them
who are fo unreafonable as to be difcontented.
" If I am then Aced, am I fo lure of the loyalty
of the people of Ireland, as to fay that no precaution
necelTary ? I will anfwer that the precaution that
I would take is this : I fhnuld with the King's army
to he kept on the moll complete footing, as a guard
of hour tr to the crollittition, the laws, and fiber-,
ties, of Ireland. At times like the prefent, I would
not rift the exillence of Ireland, or of the empire by
being unprepared ; brit the preparation I would with
for, is an army, and not fevere laws. I cannot fay
that I would trull the defence of Ireland altogether
to the fpirit of its inhabitants, becaufe no man can
potlibly know to what extent the fpirit of difconteat
may have prevailed. No man can fay or know to
what might be the feelings of a confiderable portion
of the population, if an enemy landed in force; and
therefore, although I fee no ground for great dif
truft, flee abundant grOund for the precaution of
having a large military force in that country. Your
fevere laws may teach pe4le the cunning to be filent,
brit ihtre can be nrohing fo truly overawing as a great
military force, filch as would detlroy all hopes of
fucceir.ful infurteetioe, and even damp the hopes
which the partiz ins of the French would otherwile
feel, in the event of invatinn. A large army would
be the bell teem ity againi any general infurreElion ;
and as to partial ats.l hidden rifings, or tumults, the
Conftitution is fufficiently powerful to fupprefs them.
Marial law is, under certain circumstances, a con-
Ititutioral entitle. When martial law is, however,
pr, claimed in its proper &ape, it is well watched by
the vigilance of thole who are fubmitted to it ; the
necellity of it mutt be apparent ; and thole who
proclaim it, aft under a moll ferinus refponfibility.
This meafure, however, is infinitely worfe than mar-
Cal law, becaufe it enm!s difguifed and freed from
refpo- fihility in thofe who were to exercife it. It was
martial law " in mafqrterade," that had not the
boldnefs to avow itfclf. It was martial law free from
refponfibility, and extended for a length of time to
ourfelves, that were in perfeft peace.
" It has been always the fenfe and praftice of the
Conftitution of this Country, that the people fhould
be armed to meet any danger which threatened them.
Experience and the hiftory of all nations, but Parti-
cularly of the Englifh nation, thew that an armed
people are, among themfelves, full as peaceable, if
not more fo, than a people difarmed and driven to
del-pair. In the ancient times of our hiftory, what-
ever internal difcontents and feuds might exift, it was
never fuppofed unfafe on that account to due Corn-
miflions of Array, and call the greater part of the
population of the country out in arms. So far from
apprehending any danger from fuch a meafure, it was
fometimes even reckoned good policy, and calling
the Englifh nation out in arms againft a foreign enemy
has often bees found the heft way of appearing do-
meltic difcontents. The ancient Kings of England
never thought there was any danger, nor never founds,
any, from calling the nation to arms, whatever private
difcontents might exift. Where then was the need-
fity of treating Ireland in a manner to very different
from that in which England had always been treated?
I will now put it to the Right Hon. Gentleman (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer), whether he can ima-
gine or conceive any pottbke fituation in which he.
would venture to propofe for this country the fame
measures which have been now enaCled for Ireland ?
There have been times when this country has been
in greater danger, and when much more difaffeetion
prevailed in it; and yet no Minifter had ever the
boldnefs to propofe for England meafures any
thing at all fimilar to thole which have been In long
allied on in Ireland, and which have now been re-
enaCted. The ditaffetlion and the danger in th;s
country has been much greater than is pretended
now to exift in Ireland. When the Pretender was
alive, and there were million: of Jacobite: in the
country, and before their hopes were cut down in the
year 1745, no Englfth Minifter ventured to propofe
loch meafures as have been adopted for Ireland, al-
though, from the difference of the authorities, there
feems confiderable doubt whether there is any con-
fiderable or alarming difaffeeion now in Ireland.
Did any Englith Minifter ever think of propofing a
law, that Engli:hmen were not to be out of their beds
after fun and all the re( of that catalogue of
feverities which were now engled againft Ireland ?
If no provocation ever did or could induce an Englith
Minifter to propofe fuch laws for England, why fhould
they beenatied againft Ireland ? But it is Paid that
this is only a tufpenfion of the Conftitution in Ireland
for three ye irs. Ido not like this mode of giving
leafes to the Crown of the Conftitution and the liber-
ties of the country. Leafes of this fort are too apt
to be renewed, and in the prefent cafe the Crown has
had the !cafe for 14 years, and it has been renewed for
One years longer. What will he the end of this? will
ele Contlitution be ever rettored to Ireland ? I fear
that a people that fo quietly refigut its liberties to the
Gown for a time, will never regain them. The au-
thority of the Right Hon. Gentlemen ( Mr. Grattan)
was every thing with Minitters, when they wanted to
lay fume colourable foundation for their BiU ; but
when the fame Right Hon. Gentleman contended,
with onanfwerable arguments, for Worsening the

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doratinn of the Bill, then as his authority did not Nit
their purpofe, it went for nothing. As to the arms
that are to be feized under this Bill, ►here i., to he
lure, a receipt to be given by the feiziog Jullice, and
promile or reflore theta at the end of the three
years, but I fhould with to fee the receipt which the
talents of the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor
of the Exchequer) could produce, that would anfwer
as a receipt for the Conititution of a free country,
depofited in the hands of Minitlers for three years,
and to be by them reßored at the end of three years
frelb and unimpaired.
" If it were anted, what refource would the people
have, if Minifters fhould not reftore the t►u(l ? Scone
would anfwer, that the only appeal of a people in
lured and outraged was to arm.. This appeal was,
however, to be cut off, as they were not to be all,,wed
arms to try the quarrel. It is imprable but that the
Irifh mutt remember all the fine prim:des which were
made at the Union, not one of which have been rea-
lized. As to that freedom of Constitution and equal
rights, which Ireland was promifed at that time,, it
puts me in mind of the prefents which are fometimes
made to a child, and which the mama promifes to
take care of, for fear the child would make a bad ufe
of them. Ireland had been molt egregioufly duped
and trifled with. There has not been a tingle aft
done to carry into ale& the promifes of the Union.
I (hall read you an extra& from one of the pamphlets
written at that time : • If we were to be one people,
the preponderance of the Proteftants throughout the
Empire would be f► great, that there could be no
longer any jealoufy between the two religions, or any
pretext for curbing and reftraining the Roman Catho.
lics of Ireland.' This pamphlet is not from any mean
authority : it is the produeion of no leis a man than
Doeor Duigenan (a loud and general laugh.)
Thefe were the promifes held nut by fuch men
as Dr. Duigenan and Lord Redefdale, in corjunetion
with Mr. Pitt, znd others of that Adminißration,
who are alfo Members of the prefent Cabinet. The
Secretary for Foreign Affairs (Mr. Canning) and
the Noble Lord (Lord Caftlereagh) are emphatically
pledged to the Catholics of Ireland, and they had a
right to expel that they would be their friends when-
ever they fhould come into power. When they found
their expatiations thus crufhed, their hopes deferrtd
and deceived, it was natural to fuppofe there w^uld
be fume difcontent. I have no hefitation in allowing,
that many who have oppofed their claims in this
Houfe, have ailed from the molt confcientious feel-
ings ; but I will afk, what mutt the Irifh think of
thofe whom they conf►dered as bound by a pledge
and who have abandoned it ?
•• I cannot blame thole perfons from acquiefcing in
the confcientious Cowles of the King ; I know there
was a pretty general union of fentiment in this coun-
try upon the occafion, and I gave the late Admini-
ftration more credit for withdrawing the Bill than I
did for bringing it forward. ( Hear ! hear ! from the
Miniflertal Beneher.) Bat, when I allow that thofe
Members of the Cabinet were right in acquiefcing
with his Majelly's fcruples, how could they efcape his
fevereft difpleafure and indignation,if they (tumid join
in railing the cry of " No Popery I" when, from the
pledges they had given, it molt be well known that
they would have wifhed the meafure to pafs. I hope
that thofe who were fo fledged, did feparate them-
felves in the Cabinet from the perfons who let up
that hideous yell, and (hewed that they were not
difpofed to throw new obftacles in the way of the
Catholics. I certainly do not confider that the Bill
which was brought in, was of that importance which
appeared to belong to it by thofe who brought it
in. I think that in their meafures, for the relief
of Ireland, they began at the wrong end, and that
if we with to make Ireland contented and happy,
we fhould look to the cottage and the potatoe gar.
den, rather than to the mention and the park. Any
attempt to improve the condition of Ireland, that
does not begin with the lower order, appears to me
like dreffing out a (hip with gaudy flags, when the
has ten feet water in the hold ; or putting a laced
hat on a man who has no !hoes. The (late of the
loaer orders of the people in Ireland has been much
mifreprefented in this country. Many fuppofe that
they are incorrigibly idle, and naturally fo turbulent
and diforderly, that it is impoffible to make them
comfortable or happy. Thole who think fo know
little, and have read little of the Rate of the Irtfh
Peafantry. Among the pamphlets written on the
fubjeft, that written by Mr. Bell would afford much
ufeful information. If we look at the bilk labourers
in this country, we will find a very different charac-
ter, Many of them thew confiderable enterprize when
they come to this country for bread, and deferve
praife when they return to (hare it with their families
—Almott all the hard work in this Metropolis is
done by Irifhmen, and the watchmen and patroles,
to whom the fecurity of the city is committed at night
are almat exclufively of that country. Will it then
be Paid that thofe who in this country (hew themfelves
to be hardy, tobull, induftrious, and faithful, have
none of thofe qualities when they are in their own
country ? If they do not (hew the fame qualities there,
it is from grofs mifmanagement on the part of their
rulers. It now appears almrdt a hacknied topic to
fay, that this is a molt critical and momentous period
—I am really lick of your Continental Allies, your
magnanimous Emperor Alexander, and all the reft
of them. I have read in a Paper of this day, that this
magnanimous Emperor bnalted of returning trium-
phant to his capital, with his dominions increafed.—
But how were they increafed ? From the plunder
and fpoil of his conquered Ally, the King of Pruflia.
If, instead of taking away any thing from him, he
had given him fomething in confideratien of his folks,
then I would have faid that was fomething like mag-
nanimity. When I look at the Map of Europe,
where Mr. Burke once thought he taw a blank—
which once was France—l can now fee nothing but
France. If I look to the EaR Indies, I fee an Em-
pire badly managed ; if I look to the. Welt Indies, I
fee the planters and merchants in a Rate of the
greaten (lifters (I am glad to find that the Houfe
have refolved to take their cafe into consideration
next Seffion). When I look to America, I fee a molt
dilagreeable profpeet, although I have no hefitation
in laying, that we mull never give up thole rights
which have made us a great maritime nation. When
I look to Ireland, I fee that our Statute Book points
it out as a country where ferious infurrettion is to be
apprehended. After having feen thole gloomy
prolpeets in every direttion, what confolatiin do I
find in turning my eyes to the fituation of our own
Government, and to what peas within the walls ?

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prevarication. Each pary teems
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my plan is better than yours; the
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s, youa were guilty of a vile jb; the other
replies, your j .b was the win II ; and to we go on.
in paltry childifh difpures, while our enemy is con.
Tiering kingdoms, and threatening the glory, the
h•mour, the independence, and the very exilletrce of
the coutury. See how Bonaparte has employed hid
time, while we confume ours in ttiflivg wrangler
He has furrouttded his empire, not merely with fuch
an iron barrier as the vanity and ambii,rn of Louis
XIV. afpired to : he has furl-minded it with empires
and kingdoms of his own creation. He has hound
the Sovereigns of thefe countries to him by benefits.
and by the ties of obligation. Their vatitode wth
ferve as hoflages, and their fears will he fufficient
pledges of their fidelity. The Paltfadoes wh ch fur-
round the ramparts •. f his Thr, ne, are c-mpoled of
the Sceptre and Crown of the Monarchs be Itimfell
has made. States of his own creation a'e the
Martell° Towers which are to defend Fist Empire,
and Sovereigns are his fentinels. What Ally
now remains for this country, and what is the 'ma.
Pure which I ropofe ? I propofe an affeaionate alli-
ance with lid and. I call upon you to fublidize
Ireland; not with money, which your Continental
Allies have been always ready to take from fins
without performing their fervice, but by ads of
jullice. Janice is all that Ireland eats for or looks
for at your hands. If you are prepared to do juftice
to Ireland, you will gain an ally more faithful and
mrre important than any you have loft upon the
Continent. I allow that the prefent times are times
of danger, but true manly fpirit does not refute to
look at danger. We mutt examine it, know what it
is, and weigh it well, and then be prepared %kith
dauntlefs hearts to meet it. ( Loud cries of hear ! hear!)
If we at as we ought to do, although the country
lhould be invaded, I rely on fuccefs under PROYI.
DENCE ; but if we fhould fail, and anv ltillorian le
allowed by the tyrant to record the late of the Em-
pire, it would be fail of us that we were a nation
fa;thful, not only to our allies, but to the great prin-
ciples of liberty; that thole two fmall Blinds formed
a nation which was the altar and the lall afylum of
freedom upon earth; and that when we contended for
• it, we fought with all that h, ly zeal that fh .01d in.
fpire brave men, in preventing the violation of fuch
a fanauary." He thee concluded by moving
" That the Houfe will immedi itety on meeting of the tatting
SelSon of Parliament, proceed to take into their molt fcrious
and folemn confideration, the State and Condition it lrelrnd,
in the anxious hope, that fuch meafttres and remedies may be
fairly adopted in regard to the dikontents alizged to add in that,
country, as may render unneceffary the continuance of thole pro-
vinous which the Legiflature of the Linked Kingdom ha. deemed,
it t xpedient reludautly to adopt at the clofe of the prefent inf
and the permanence of which would he a violation of the rights of
the people of Ireland, and a fubvetfion of the fpirit and practice of
our free Conditution."

Ths CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEUER.
raid, it was not his intention to follow the /tight I
Honourable Gentleman through the various parts of
his fpeech; but there were one or two topics on
which he could not forbear to make fome obferva.
tions. He particularly thought it neceffary to inforna
the Houfe, that the Right Honourable Gentleman
had made a very great miaake in that part of his
aatement, in which he Paid that Government had,
in the prefent fituation 41 the c•tuntry, drawn out of
it a very large military force, and, in lieu therenf,
had garrifoned Ireland by two Afts of Parliament.
He allowed that a confiderable body of troops had
been withdrawn from Ireiand ; but, at the fame time
there was a very thong force left in that country—a
force fully fufficient and adequate to its military de-
fence, which had, in fait, been reduced in a very in.
confiderable degree ; for by varying the difpofiti.nt
of troop;, and where they take from one quarter fop.
plying their places from another, that was cardh
guarded againft. In fad', there were now ablve
50,000 men in rank and file in Ireland, and the
Right Honourable Gentleman would fee, that not.
withßanding it had been thought neceffary to fend
from thence a very large body of men, yet the mili.
tary defence of the country had not been negled:d.
by thofe who formed the prefent Adminiaration
He thought it necefrary thus early to correft this
miaake, lea an idea Mould be entertained that Mi.
niflers had for a moment been regardlefs of the pro.
per defence and fecurity of the country againti all.
afrailants. He then proceeded to advert to the point
which the Right Honourable Gentleman had in view,
in bringing forward the refnlution which had soft
been read from the chair; and he could not, he hid,
but be fnmewhat furprifed, • that the Right Honour.
able Gentleman thould, on that night, make it the
foundation of arguments againft certain meafores that
had palled that Houle, when, in point of propriety
and of fairnefs, he ought th have oppofed thole mea•
lures during the time they were in their progrefs
through the Houle. It appeared to him, alto, to be
fomewhat furprifing, that the Right Honourable.
Gentleman fhould urge filch arguments as he had
pit made ufe nf, by way cf appealing the feelings of
the people of Ireland ; and when he dated that the
people who could fubnsit to fuch meafures, were, in
his opinion, preparing to make a furrender of their
liberties for ever, he thought that was not a proper
language to be ufed at the prefent momeat. The
Houfe upon the fullea and faired inveiticostion of the
lubjeet, and after it had been warmly ch bated in the
various flages of the two Bills, had thought proper
to pats them into laws; and he could hardly topple
that in fo &nit. a time they would he induced to alter
their condufl, and proceed to a condemnation of
what they had previoufly done, by admitting a refo.
lotion which went direftly againft thole very Bills.
He thought it indeed art extravagant esneflation in
the Right Honourable Gentleman to fuppofe, that
the Houle could fo far be led away by the extent and
varie'y of his arguments, as not to perceive the in•
confifiency with which they mull aft, if they adopted
the refolution now fubmitted to their confideration.
He was well allured, he (aid, that the Houle would
always be ready to enter warmly and zealoolly upon
any meafure that might be thought likely to be be-
neficial to Ireland, let it come from either the Right
Honourable Gentleman himfelf, or from, whatever
other quarter it might. Ther.: was no necafiry,
therefore, for the Houle to pledg: itfelf to tbat diva
by any previous refolution. He was certain in his
ovn mind, whatever might have been at any tio e