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l'rand here adverted to the nature of the (vide: ce g'ven in support of
the Commission. Mr. Paynter. wt.o was usionisliets that he displayed
tet•ling upon the death of Mrs. Dasitsood, at the same time explassed
his list mishment that he bad not displ t)til s.tonti feeling upon the death
of a natural child ; and yet this inconsis•eney it: tl:e evidence, was taken
as a ground of his insanity. Air. I'aynter said that he knew he was in-
sane for three years, and yet lie took no steps to take care of his friend
or of his property.
Mr. Phillituore here observed. that by referring to the evidence lie
found that Mt. Paynter &Rd Mr. Brand's insanity from the 16th
of Mar.
Mr. Brand procetd‘d to con meta upon the evidence. With respect
to Miltat's saying that be was it elanclioly after the death of Mrs. Dash-
wood, there might he admitted b..• some truth in it—it was also possible
he was seen talking to himself. He might be counting of money, as he
had to pay one or two labourers.

Mr. Bredie, the surgeon, examined by Mr. Brand—He deposed that
he received three or tour letters from Mr. Brand. He did nor attend to
the first letter because he was going out of town at the time it aimed.
The two subsequent letters alluded to Mr. Brand being cot.fined in con.
sequence of a charge of insanity. (The letters were then frail.) A
gottleman, a friend of Mr. Brand's, called upon him, and urged h m :u
st.e. Mr. Brand. lie did call in consequence. Ile recollected a•tend-
ing Mr Brand several tithes. He did not recollect seeing him in No-
vember last. Recollected seeing Mr. Brand a few days since. Saw ito
marks of insanity about Mr. Brand. lle was excited, but tm more so
than he would be, under his peculiar circumstances, whether he wax
sane or Insane. Mr. Brand had then returned, as witness utider-h4)41,
from attending this examination. This was, he believed, on Monday
late. He frequently declined going to patients, if he did not think he
could serve them. He saw nothing in Mr. Brand's conduct that day to
induce him to believe that he was insane, nor did he on the day he late
saw lii:tt.

Cron—examined by iii. Austin --Was not hers• when Mr. Brand
was under t xamination, in the early part of the day. He entered when
Mr. Brand was reading his address. Ile only 5314. Mr. Brand for fivz
minutes, on the first occasion.
in reply to a Juno.: Mr. Brand told him of his being improperly
confined ; and a•kni bint if he (Mr. ltre.the) c•ou!d say whelier he wa.
insane or not He replied that he hat: not a sufficient opportunity of
judging of his conduct to give an opinion on the stibpct.
Mr. Irving, examined by Mr. Brand, deposed, dlr. he was for a few
days a• Mr. Brand's, In March. 1819. Sall/ no.hmg in Mr. Brand's
conduct to induce him to suppose that lie was 'intone. Could not ray
that Mr. Brand laboured under delusions. ll'as very Innen in %Ir.
Brand's company at the time. 11 n d in company with Mr. I rand.
Would have thought it very extra odiihiry to hear it stated tlint Air.
Brand was supposed to be insive at this period.
Cross.examined—This was after the death of Mrs. Dashwood. lied
some conversation with Brand on the mode of conducting tis farm. It
was, he thought, an expensive nude. He always thought 31r. Beard
of an eccentric turn of mind. He was more tinder the iittitteace of the
moment than other people, and less under the guidance of yell ction.

To Mr. grand—Would not think it any proof of insaniq if Mr.
Brand farmed Mkt the manner usually adopted by the most Puc natal
farmers in Suffolk.

Ephraim Samutla examined—Deposed that he met Mr. Braid at
chess within the last two years. Saw nothing in his conduct to warrant
him in supposing him mad. Should know the likeness of Scrtett the
chess-playcr.
[Mr. Brand here said that as a person named Hay, who was the per-
son whose face r.mintletl him i.f Se•rety was not present, he should re.
quest Mr. &minds io come anothir day, to say how tar he (Day) was
like Serrea. The witness said lie would come with great pleasure.]

Cross-examined—Knew Serrett vary well. Believed lr has been dead
ten years. He wax a strong-featured man.
To a Juror—Saw no difference in Jr. Brand now from what he al-
ways observed.
Mr. PHILLIMonB here observed that he had received a cotninuni-
cation from the Lord Chancellor, in reference to Mr. Bland appearing
there under the restraint of a strait-waistcoat. Mr. Phillimore said
that the jury would recollect that his lint object was to ascertain how
far it was right that Mr. Brand should be kept under restraint, and
with that view he examined Dr. Sutherland and the keepers, as to whe.
then or not it was advisable to keep the strait-waistcoat on Mr. Brand.
They gave it as their opinion that it would be unsafe to take the waist-
coat off.

A juror said that he thought it was an extremely hard case for a gen.
denten to be obliged uhdertakt his defence tinder such rest, aint, and,
if it were iffissible, s(r. Brand ought to be ntlease4gfrom it.
Dr. Sutherland, who was in attendanceislegain examined. Ile
aid that if Mr. 'and was either alloweastWe confinement, or placed
,from under restraint, it would beAnlrary to his (Dr. S.'s) medical
judgment.'
Sir. Austin hoped it would not go to the public that Mr. Brand was
deprived oT any opportunity to defend himself properly.
Mr. Brand said that he certainly felt himself under restraint. H.:
was unable to have legal assistance of his own choosing.
Mr • Phillimore, and the" other Commissioners, here reminded Mr.
Brand that they strongly ad;ised him on the first day to employ a legal
gentleman to conduct his case.
The Foreman of the Jury said that the jury were of opinion that the
Commissioners had done their duty.
Mr. Brand, in teply to a Juror, said that he did not fed himself
under any restraint then.
Mrs. Harris examined by Mr. Brand—She deputed that she recollected
Mr. Brand lodging at her house in Camberwell four times. Never saw
anything like insanity in the conduct of Mr. B. Would not be
afraid of being in the room with him, even if thtr.: were knives on the
table. Never saw Mr. Brand excited except on the occasion of Mr.
Page being present. Recollects Alderman Wood and Dr. Paris having
called on Mr. Brand on a Sunday, last May ; they said it was uns tfe
for her to be in the house with Mr. Brand without a keeper. Sh: did
not think so, and refused allowing one to be placed in her house. She
thought the conduct of the ger.tlemen in question very impertinent and
ob =sive. A large crowd assembled round the house. Could tat ray
that it was the crowd that intimidated them from putting Mr. Blind
under restraint. They said that, as witness objected to a keeper be n;
placed in the house, it was unnecessary for them to remain any longer.
Mr. Brand said to hem that he was ready to go before a British j ry,
he providing himself with thr.e medical men, and they with tnree
others. Heard nothing of John Fitz-Brand being in the neigbourlitard
on the day in question.
Cross-examined.—Lived in Camberwell 25 years. Was married to
Mr. Harris IR years. Knew that the now Mrs. Brand's name was
originally Ann Stevens. She lived with Mr. Brand in witness's house
under the latter name. Never heard Mr. Brand say that Mr. Page or
Mr. Alderman Wood should be put upon their trial. Mr. Brand kept
his razors in the table drawer. Alderman Wood and Dr. Paris rearm.
mended her to remove them. She did so, and kept them till Tuesday
or Wednesday, when she returned them to Mrs. Brand. M Brand
shaved himself shortly after. Saw Dr. Paris's nose bleed, bui did not
think Mr. Brand meant to strike Dr. Paris. The Doctor wax struck
accidentally...... _ _ _

To Mr.'Phillimore—Mr. Brand remained In the house a week after
the visit of Dr. Paris and Alderman AVood. His manner before he
went away became slightly altered. He complained of the smell in the
house, und if two names were mentioned, he said that there appeared to
be a great confusion with respect to names.

In reply to ,Ir. Brand, the witness said that she thought him per.
fectly sane. She would not have any objection to sit in the room with
him, if persons would not come into the room and tell him that he was
mad to irritate him.
Mr. Harris corroborated Mrs. Harris's statement generally, and said
that he saw nothing at all in the conduct of Mr. Brand to induce hint to
suppose Mr. Brand was insane. He would rather sit in the company of
.Ir. Brand than in that of the mad doctor and his keeper. Thought
that Mr. Brand was no more excited after the visit of Dr. Paris and
Mr. Alderman Wood, than be (Mr. Harris) would have been. Indeed
he should have been more excited than Mr. Brand under the cir.
cumstances.

To a Juror : Mt. Brand paid him money frequently. Thought that
he was perfectly well able to take care of money.
To another Juror : He would have no objection in the world to ad.
mit Mr. Brand into his house now without a keeps, although witness
has seven children.

To Mr. Brand : You never asked me what evidence I should give ;
nor did you dictate what evidence I should give. I should have re.
jected such dictation with disdain.

111 reply to a Juror, who thought that Mr. Alderman Wood ought
to be examined, Mr. Phillimore said that he had received a note fro u
Alderman Wood's son, in consequence of a summons issued for the
attendance of that gentleman, stating that the Alderman was than at
Gloucester.

A Juror. a Mr. M' William, said that lie could not conscientiously
give a verdict in this ease, without hearing the evidence of Mr. Alder-
man Wood.

Some observations arose amongst the Commissioncn and Mr. Brand,
on the non-atendance of witnesses, and the forme► gentlemen said that
they regrt tied that he had not employed some respectable solicitor to
conduct his case and summon witnesses.

Mr. Young, Mrs. Brand's' solicitor, here observed that Messrs. Sp lets
and Co. and Mr. Gates objected conducting Mr. Brand's case, fearing
that they would not be paid.
Mr. Brand (in a tone of surprise)—ls this possible?
Mr. Phillimore said he was sorry to hear this, because he was e ire
that if the Commission were upset, Mr. Brand would very willingly pay
his solicitor thr his trouble; if on the contrary the verdict of the jury
wax against Mr. Brand, the fiord Chancellor would take care and see
that Mr. Brand's solicitor's expenses would be defrayed out of Mr.
Brand's estate.
There not being any more witnesses in attendance, and it being
necessary to afford Mr. Mend time to produce sli the evidence he
could, and also to give Mr. Austin time to communicate with Mr.
Page, Mr. Brand's uncle, who is the real supporter of the Commis.
sion, it was agreed that the further proceedings in the case should be
adjourned until Saturday next.