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MR. JUDall ►•ox.

FRANCE.

• PAW% TF.BRUART 6. •
M. de la Rocutroucancv is appointed Ambafra-
dor to Vienna, General Jusor Ambaffador to Por-
tugal. and M. RaYsEVAL, Secrertry of Emhaffy.
On Sunday laa a grand Diplomatic A ucrence was
; given to the Auftrian, Saxon, Pi utGan, and Bavarian
4 Ambalfadnrs, who prefented letters of congratulation
from their refpeelive Courts, upon the birth of Prince
NAPOLION LOWS.
Prince Mua 1T conk tl.e oaths as Grand Admiral,
and was complimented by t4c Senate.
French funds, 53 9-10E115.
CADIZ, JAN. 6 —Thc troops in camp at St. Roche
have received reinforcements lately ; others are ex-
peEled. The Captain General has hemmed in as much
as poilible all the Lae of Engliflt polls before Gibral-
tar. ,]mutt all the garrifon of that fourth is en-
camped outride the walls for fear of the contagion,
which dill continues i:s ravages.

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDIN:2S.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, FEB. it

Mr. ADAM and Mr. HoRNt It were heard for the Appellant in
the Scotch Appeal, Bannerman againa Bannerman.
The Greenland Whzle Fithery Bill and Come other Bills were
brought from the Couirnons, and read a fief time.
A h!,-fr vrts brought from the Commons, dating that they
bad au• homed Mr. Pole and Sir J ,hn Stewart to atterd on the
Committee of their I.ordfhips„ according to the requet in their
Meltage of the 13th January latt.

Lord GRZNVILLk laid, that before their Lord-
Mips adjourned, there was a point to which, as he
conceived it to be of the hialteff importance, he
wilted to call the attention of iiteir Lordfhips. The
fobieet to' which he alluded was the accufation now
pending in that Houle, on a Judge in another part
of the United Kingdom, whu was charged with ads
of improper condua, flat of a general nature, but in
Otis judicial capacity. He was not pettedly certain
whether it would he neaelfary fur him to make any
motion to the Bottle on the Cobjed ; all he meant
at prefcnt was to fubmit certain ideas which had oc•
tutted to him on the pryer Inc,Je of praceeding in
fo important and unprecedented a Wines; and if the
Houle should be of opinion that they were of any
weight, to fuggeft how far it might nut be proper to
give farther time for digetling them, and to appoint
another day foe taking the fenfe of the Bottle on
the mode of proceeding which ought ultimately to
be adopted. The Houle, he conceived, lay under
Lflat obligations to a Noble and Learned Lord (the
ord Chancellor) for the trouble he had taken in the
bufinefs on a former night; for by that learned Lord's
fuggettions they had been prevented from proceeding
with that precipitation which would have been fo tin.
becoming in a mater of In grave and deliberate a na-
ture. .Happily for this, country the prefent was the IR
instance, fence the Judges of the land had been put be-
yond the coma-out-of the fervants of the Crown, and
were only Cubic& to the ten-moth:nee of both Houfes
of Parliament by an Iltidtel; to his Majelly, praying
for their removal from their fitnations, that an accu-
fation of this kind had been preferred to Parliament.
It therefore became an objea of no common cunt'.
deration, that the mode of proceeding Ihould be con.
fiffent with that raped which was due to the judicial
char after, to the pubiic jutlice of the country, to the
dignity of that Houle, and that it fhould hold out a
precedent worthy of being handed down to our foe.
ceffors. Conti Jering the cafe in this point of view,
he regretted that when the Noble and Learned Lord
had, on a forme occafion, thrown out chore °bier.
ations on the form of proceeding—for which, in his
opinion he was fo defeivedly entitled to the thanks of
the Houle, he had been confined by fa fevere an in--
difpofition as to tench,- it impotTible for him to at-
tend. On confidering the matter fully, and he af.
fitted the Houle it had occupied a coofiderable (hare
of his thoughts, it occurred to him, that the Bottle
VAS not proceeding in the manner which the nature
and aravity of the accufation teemed to merit.—
This was not a charge of common or ordinary mag-
mitode, but one againtt a jada7e for adings in his ofii•
vial capacity. The cptetiiatt therefore was, ought
an acculation of lochs fiature to originate in that
Houle ? It was to he remarked that it was not to
them, as a Court of Judicature, that the right of
addreffing the King for the removal of any of the
judges of the land was entr Wird. That was a power
vetted in the two Hooks of Parliament, as the
Legiflature of the courai y. T:te regular mode of
proceeding, he therefore fohmittecl, was, that an ac-
cufatian, filch as the prefcnt was, Mould originate in
the other Houle, that grand national inqueti. If
grounds flifficient to warrant the charge were there
made out, it would then come before their Lordfhips
by articles of impeachment, and they would then be
called on with propriety to exercife their ja_licial ea.
pacity. But if the matter were to originate with
that Houle, and they, after having been the accufers,
were to be called on to at as judges, the dilemma in
which they mutt find thernfelves placed would be
fuch as they were lirongly called on if pofEble to
avoid. Even if an addrefs were to be the nude of
proceeding to be latterly agreed on by both Homes,
he conceived that Bottle, having the privilege of ex-
amining witneffes 'on oath, it would have an appear.
nee of greater folemnity that they fhould clafe the
inveltigation rather than that, after they had proceed-
ed on oath, the other Houfe fhould conclude the but.
finds merely on affertion, and lhould, even from that
circnmftance, refute to concur in the addrefs. His
Lordthip should therefore plopore, that the Commit.
tee be difcharged for fix weeks or two months, that
time might be given for the bcfinefs to proceed in
the other Houle ; if not, that it might then be reviv-
ed in this; or, if their Lorcilhips wifhed to confider
of the matter, that the farther. confideration of the
mode of proceeding do (land for tome future day.
. Lord HAVsTKESBURY laid; he differed .widely
in opinion from the Noble Baron, in what he had
advanced upon the fubjein every point of view,
d,
tither with reference to the individual concerned, or
the interefts of the adminiliration of juflice in Ireland,
or to the public at large. He thought the invelligation
Amid be proceedtd with in the way already agreed
upon, and with as little delay as the circuit:tit:sixes
of the cafe would admit. Their Lordfliips would
have to confider the fituation in which the cafe Itood
before Them. It had been brought forward by a No.
ble Member of that Hostfe towards the dole of the
it was adjourned
latt :Own. After fome difcoffion,

to the prefent Seffirms, when there afore fome donbts
as to the proper courfe to be taken ; the erefott of
their Lordfhips deliberations on that point was, that
it was derivable, before Mr. Jullice Fox Mould be
called upon to anfwer the matters alledged, fame en-
quiry fhoold be made into the caf,:, and fome prima
facie evidence offered, with a view to ellablill; a
ground for foblequent proceeding. A farther delay
was then acceded to, about a month, in order to af-
ford time to enable wirneffes to come from Ireland.
That left interval of delay being elapfed, he was fur-
prifcd to hear on this day. for the firft time, new
doubts thrown out ac to the propriety of what bad
been done, and a contiderable Lather delay preffed
for. Upon the whole, he WAS decidedly of opinion,
the molt regular and expedient way would be, to pro •
teed in the line already refhlved on. With refpett to
the Constitutional confederation of the cafe, he faw
no objeflinn whatever againft the matter as given in
that Houfe. He was aware of the refpeCtive legal
right of either Houfe to nrieinate things of the kind;
yet there were conlideretions which more properly,
and, with a view to general praCtice and ufage,
more particularly fell within the province of the
one Houle than of the other. Matters of com-
merce, revenue and finance, lay more particularly
with the Commons. On the other hand, there were
feveral matters which, by the fame rule, it lay with
their Lordfhips to originate. Such, particularly,
were cafes of Divorce Bibs. Certain confiderations,
with refpeet to the law, in deciding upon which they
could have the affiflance of the Learned Judges, who
occafionaliy attended for the purpofe ; and all that
of the Heads of fome of the Courts of lattice, who
west ufually Members of that Houfe. He was con-
vinced the ends of juflice would be more fatisfaCtori•
ly anfwered,by tethering the (wands to proceed in its
prefent courfe ; not otcly in thi:, but in point of ex-
pedition, it was infinitely preferable. In any mode
of proceeding, the concurrence, or the co.operation
of that Houk would be eventually neceffary. As the
cafe llood,the mode recommended by the Noble Lord
would be only produCtive of t.trther, and even inju-
rious delay. The Commons c. old adopt no middle
courfe between a Vote of their notice, either for re.
drefs or impeachment; in the pending interval the
charaler of the individual would remain at flake,
and in fome degree the administration of juflice in
Ireland fufpended ; for, by their tingle vote, the ju-
dicial functions of the individual would not be entire-
ly taken away. Upon the whole, though he differed
entirely from the Noble Baron in his propoiltion, yet
he was not adverfe to deferring the farther confidera.
tion of the cafe for a very fhort time, in order to af-
ford their Lordhips ao opportunity of turning over
in their minds what had been relpet:ively thrown out.
His mind, however, upon the point was made up ;
and he fhould have ferionfly to recommend to the
Houfe to protect:in the courfe already refolved upon,
and with as little farther delay as potable.
The Earl of CARLISLE made a few ()Verve-
tions in fupport of what had fallen from his Noble
Friend (Lord Grenville). He preffed the confider.
ation; that their Lordflaips. in the mode propolzd,
would have to proceed as a Grand Jury, in an exparte
way ; and upon a cafe, which poilibly might after-
wards come before them as Judges; and he contended,
that, on the &ore of expedition, the line of condo&
recommended by his Nude Friend was by far the
preferable.
The LORD CHANCELLOR quitted the wool-
fack, and direfted his oblerveiions chiefly to the
fituation in which the Treftion flood, and the molt
eligible mode of proceeding in point of form ; but
declined delivering his fentiments upon the fubjea,
till a future opportunity ; but teemed to prefer pro-
ceeding with the inveftigation, as the Houle had al
ready determined. There WAS one point which
transpired in the coterie of that evening's difetlf!l
which he was happy to riblerve, and for which he had
to exprefs his thanks to Noble Lords—nay, even his
gratitude—the apparent difpofition to aft upon the
opportunities which the Conftiretion afforded them,
of Iraviag recourfe to the afTelance, when neceffary,
of the Law Lords, and to reticle:. their attendance
effeetual.

Lord GRENVILLE fpoke in explanation ; and
expreffed his armament at the way in which the
Noble Secretary of State feemed to confider what
had fallen from him. He thought his condoa, on
the occafion,requircd no apology; it Was the bounden
duty of every Member of that Houk to come for-
ward and offer his opinion, in every Ilage of the bu-
finefs, and on every oppo:a•anity, as to what he
thought might bet favour th ends of public junior.
He was prevented by ind;lpotition from attending,
when the lubjed was lan difcuffed. NO cnnfidera-
lions of delay or inconvtiiirnte fhould militate
againfl the paramount principles, and more impor-
tant ends of public joltice. They fhould confider
the novelty of the cafe b.:fine them, and that they
were about to fet a precedent to future ages, on a
point of the la importance, in the exercife of all
their fun&ions.

Lord HA\VKESBURY explained ; as fa: as his
recollation ferved him, he had laid nethiti? which
ought to induce afioniihment cn the part of ti:e No-
ble Baron ; he regretted the cattle of his inability to
attend when the fubjet was I.ttt dilculfed ; lint -a crn-
ftderable interval had fince elapfeJ, in which the No-
ble Lord had an opportunity of coming forward:—
He had fo tar conceded af. to agree to the Noble
Lord's propofition in the lira intlance, but he had to
deprecate all unnecelf.try delays in the invaigation
of the cafe.

.The Duke of CLARENCE expreffed V.; fat iliac-
tion at what had fallen from the Noble Lord w ho had
opened the difcuffion ; but not having attended the
tmmer difculEon upon the fubj.:&, he confelfed him-
felf rather at a lots to know the precife fituation in
which the cafe then flood, and begged any Noble and
Learned Lord prefent would inform him.
The LORD CHANCELLOR quitted the wool-
fack, and explained generally to his Royal Highnefs,
that the objeft of the Committee, which had been or-
dered to fit, was to investigate the truth of matters
alledged, fo far as to afcertain whether a fulficient
ground appeared to warrant their Lordfhips in call.
mg upon the accufed to antwer, or to entertain a mo-
tion for an addref' upon the occafion. The witneff_s
were to be examined upon oath before the Commit-
tee, as to the truth of matters alledged, but to what
extent it was for the Committee to determine.
After a few oblervations from the Duke of CLA.
LANCE, the queflion wigs put upon Lord Greriville's
motion, which was ordeted accordingly. . .

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FRANCE.
• PARIS, TEBRUART
M. dela Rocneroucaoxv is app
dor to Vienna, Genet al jusor An
toga). and M. ReYSEYAL, Secrertrl
On Sunday latt a grand Diploma;
given to the Anttrian, Saxon, Pr tali
Ambalfadors, who prefented letters(
from their refpeetive Ceurts, upon th
NAPOLIOII LOWS.
• Prince MIJAIT took the oaths as
and was complimented by the Senal
French funds, 53 9-roth,.
CADIZ, JAM. 6 —The troop in ca
have received reinforcements lately
paled. The Captain General has he;
as potlible all the line of Englith poi
tar. Almoft all the garrifon of tl
camped outfide the walls for fear
which dill continues i:s ravages.
PARLIAMENTARY PROs:
HOUSE OF LORDS, HONDA
Mr. ADAM and Mr. Hait:ztlt were heard
the Scotch Appeal, Bannerman againa laanni
The Greenland Wlizle Fithery Bill and fc
brought tram the Couimons, and read a first
A I'.-Rio vris brought from the Comm
bad in• tonzed Mr. Pole and Sir J ,hn Stcv
Committee of their Lorddiips. according t+
Meltage of the 2.3 th January tail.
MA. JUDtall Fox.
Lord GRtNVILLE laid, that b
!hips adjourned, there was a paint
conceived it to be of the highe(
wilted to call the attention of their
fobitel to' which he alluded was th
pending in that Houle, on a Judge
of the United Kingdom, whu was
of improper condo t, not of a genet
his judicial capacity. He was not
whether it would he ne;clfary fur h
motion to the Bottle on the Cubjef
at prefcnt was to fubmit certain ide
rutted to him on the pryer mc,Je
fo important and unprecedented a hi
Houle should be of opinion that tt
weight, to fuggeft how far it might
give farther time for digetling then
another day for taking the fenfe I
the mode of proceeding which oug
be adopted. The Houle, he cone
Leat obligations to a Noble and Le
ord Chancellor) for the trouble he
bufinefs on a former night; for by O
fuggeltions they had been prevented
with that precipitation which would
becoming in a mater of In grave an
tore. .Happily frr this, c'untry the p
inliance, fince the judges of the lanc
yond the coma-out-of the fervants of
were only Cubic& to th,:: remonitranc
of Parliament by an Atithef.to his
for their removal from their fanatic'
fation of this kind had been preferre
It therefore became an ohjea of nt
deration, that the mode of proceedii
fiftent with that refpeet which was d
char:after, to the public jultice of th
dignity of that Houle, and that it
precedent worthy of being handed
cans. Conti Jering the cafe in di
he regretted that when the Noble at
had, on a forme occafion, thrown
+rations on the form of proceeding—
opinion he was fo defervedly entitles
the Houle, he had hen confined h
difpofition as to tench,- it impoffible
tend. On confidering the matter I
lured the Houle it had occupied a c
of his thoughts. it occurred to him
vas not proceeding in the manner
and gravity of the accufation feet
This was not a charge of common (
mitode, but one againa a jildze for
vial capacity. The cptetii ot there
an accufation of loch a fiature to
Bottle ? It was to he remarked th
them, as a Court of Judicature, t
addretTing the King for the remov:
judges of the land was entr Wird. 1'
vetted in the two Houfes of Pa:
Legiflature of the coital y. The
proceeding, he therefore fohmittecl,
cufatian, filch as the prefcnt was, th
the other Houle, that grand oath
grounds tlifficient to warrant the ch
made out, it would then come hefor
by articles of impeachment, and the
called on with propriety to exercife
pacity. But if the matter were t
that Houle, and they, after having b
were to be called on to at as judges,
which they mutt find themselves j
loch as they were firongly called
avoid. Even if an addrefa were to
proceeding to be 'acuity agreed on
lee conceived that Bottle, having th
amining witnefles 'on oath, it would
Price of greater folemnity that they
invaigation rather than that, after tl
!I ed on oath, the other Houle Ihould
finds merely on affertion, and (hould
circnmftance, refute to concur in if
• Lordihip Ihould therefore piopofe, tl
tee be dikharged for fix weeks or t
time might be given for the bcfinef
1 the other Bottle ; if nut, that it migl
i; ed in this; or, if their Lordthips wi
of the matter, that the farther, con(
mode of proceeding do (land for fort
. Lord HAVv'KESBURY laid; he
in opinion from the Noble Baron,
• k advanced upon the fuhjett, in every
either with reference to the individui
a the interetts of the admlnitiration of ji
A or to the public at large. He thought
Amid be proceed:el with in the way
upon, and with as little delay as th
of the cafe would admit. Their L
have to confider the fituation in whir
before them. It had been brought In
ble Member of that Hoare towards
latt :ieffton. Alter fome difcuffio6, i