Star.
London, England, 1831-09-27 00:00:00

WIN! DISTILS.

The Earl of ABERDEEN asked whether the Wine
Duties bill would be read a second time to.morruw.
Lord AUCKLAND answered in the affirmative.
Lord MULORAVE presented petitions for Reform from
Whitby and Orsborough, in Yorkshire.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition
from various tradesmen on the subject of Sabbath breaking.
The Earl of SUFFIELD presented a petition from a
hundred in Norfolk for Parliamentary reform.
The Duke of HAMILTON a similar petition from
Lanark.
Lord DACRE presented a petlion from the Land Coal-
meters and persons employed in the land metage of coals in
the county of Surrey, praying to be heard by Counsel against
'etch parts of the Coal Trace Regulation bill as stand op.
posed to their rights and privileges.
PLLTIALITIES BILL.
The Pluralities of Benefices bill, after some opposition
from Lord W YNFORU, was read the third ume and
passed.
The Earl of ELDON alai opposed the above bill, and
centeru:ed that the Noble and Learned Lord Chancellor
should have Leen in the house when such a measure stood
for the third reading.
, The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved that the
standing ender, No. 3, be read. [lt was accordingly read
by the clerk, and it appeared that the Lord Keeper was
to be in bis place in that House, unless absent firm
indisposition.) The treble marquis said the noble cud
learned lord then absent, had frequently charged Peers in
that house with breach of order, and in several instances had
betn out of order himself. He should move to-morrow
that the noble and learned lord account for his abience.—
The honour and dignity of that house required his attend-
ance. The noble and learned lord appeared desirous of ea-
ts tding reform to that house.
The Duke of RICHMOND said, as the noble marquis
intended to make a motion to-tnorrow, it would be more
orderly to reserve his remarks for that occasion.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE asked whether it was
the intention of the noble marquis to put questions to
the noble and learned lord on the subject of Reform,
and. other mottos, as well as upon his absence from that
house ?
The Jtarqnis of LONDONDERRY said he should put
questions on the subject to which he bad alluded.
Lord PLUNKETT said, the absence of the noble and
learned lord was not inconsistent with the orders of the
house, because a deputy bad been appointed under the royal
warrant; but it was well known the noble and learned lord,
whin he was tot in that hou. was engaged in a most me.
ritorious duty, namely, that of reducing the wear of judi-
cial business, which the industry and great mind of his noble
and learned friend had nearly accomplished.
The Blarquis of LONDONDERRY contended that the
most important duty of the Lord Chancellor was to give his
attendance in their lordships' house.
The Earl of ELDON said, the custom of the late Lord
Thurlow, and other Chancellors, was, to be in coasting
attendance upon their lordships. During his (Lord Won's)
Chancellorship, he never was absent once, without 'first ,
hating sired to the peer who INS to preside in his absence',
the reasons of such absence. Unless their lordships wished
to see an entire change in the forms of their house they
would not moan' to tint absence of the Lord Chancellor.
The Duke of RICHMOND said, the noble and learned.
Iced was necessarily absent at Windsor, in Attendance on his
stiitstr. When he returned to town, Do doubt he would
be .tilesatisfaCtoelly to account foe Ms abeam' to inc noble
noptiure: (wear.) • 4 ^
atilt* tits wpids from Land ElLalon,
! The Marquis at LANSDO WNE was et tied tisk Ito
hvorith,-• ofiba tonne of that House hid been muted by
the ,aosi tiptoed lord.

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The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said again. that he
should certainly press the quotient to-morrow (this day.)
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COAL MAD'.
On the motion of Lord RLLENBOROiJOH the Coal
Trade Bill went through a Commit"
Report to-morrow.
The Administration of Notioe(lrelaad) Bill was reported.
Lord ROSSIXN gave notice that on the second read*
of the Scotch Turnpike-vosirßUl, he should move that at
toll-keeper be allowed to sell hem or spirits.
Adjourned at &ern o'Cloek.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Colonel EVANS gave notice that on Thursday he should
submit a motion respecting Military Preparations made in
the Tower on the 9th of November Iwit. _ _ _

Mr. STRICHILt ND presented a pet Hon from Halifax,
for Parliamentary Reform and vote by ballot.
Mr. HUNToupported its prayer.--Ordered to be printed.
POOR LAWS, (lItLAWD.)
Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition on the subject of
l'oor Laws for Ireland. He admitted that they ought to be
cautious how they Introduced into Ireland what, after hun-
dreds of rears, had failed of perfection in England.
Mr. HUNT said, the English Poor Laws were just, liu.,
mat* and wise ; it was the abuse of them that had '
caused mischief. If there were Poor Laws for Ireland, as
there ought to be, only let them guard against the abuse
of them.

Mr. WE] LAND spoke to the like effeet,—adding, if
they only took Scotland for an example and England for a
warning, the Poor Laws might be usefully introduced into
Ireland.

Mr. D. W. H ARVEY said, the poor laws bad their cal.
gin in nature; they were only the mode by which the right
should be administered. He considered, that not very fir
distant was the period when the enormous mass of pen.
perry, called Church Property, would be revised by the
Parliament, and appropriated to the best and most Chris.
tian of all purposes—the relief of the poor. It was quite
impossible that the Church property of Ireland, so well as
that of England, could long escape the severest scrutiny of
the Parliament.

Sir R. BATESON said, that from what bad been expe-
rienced of the poor laws in England, he should on principle,
and not from say selfish motives, resist the introduction of
those laws into Ireland.

Sir C. BURRELL admitted that they had not so much
reason to complain of the poor laws of England as of their
maladministration. (Hear.)
Mr. WILES said, the present system of poor laws might
not to be confounded with the just and wholesome system
introduced by the celebrated and wise act of Elisabeth. Be.
fore they introduced any such system es that which existed
in England he also trusted they would pause. -
Lord INGESTRIE said, be would not now express any
opinion on the poor laws proposed—but he urged the noes.
ail of considering the state of the poor In Ireland, with the
view of of some remedy.
Colonel TORRENS °burred, that they must either I.
crease the quantity of food—or adopt measures that would
lead to the diminution of demands foe it.
Mr. HODGES thought the poor laws had been subjected
to a good deal of unmeshed obloquy. What was called the
abuse of the poor laws would be immediately removed the
moment they placed the labourers of England in the same
independent situation in which they were previously to the
late long and ruinous war. (Hear.)
Sir J. NEWPORT said that some provision was requi.
site for the absolutely necessitous poor, but he must hesitate
against the introduction of poor laws into Ireland before he
knew what was actually to be proposed I and he certainly
should protest against provision for those poor who might
say they could not get work. He was not for giving encou-
ragement to idleness. The bad working of the English poor
laws had been complained of every session since he was in
Parliament.

Sir J. expressed his readiness to smut
modified poor laws for Ireland. He was not surprised at
the course pursued by the Hon. Members for Colchester and
Kerry Cllr. D. W. Harvey and Mr. O'Connell), for they
lost no opportunity of attacking the Established Church,
and of declaring that one-third of its property ought to be
appropriated to the poor.
Mr. O'CONNELL could not join In the unqualified en.
loglum pronounced on the poor laws, and u the gentlemen
of England bad not been able to make them perfect, he de.
spared of being able to effect that for Ireland which bad not
been done with them in
Petition ordered to bellAtlse name of it was not
heard in the gallery—if sued by' the Clerk.
Mr. O'COIMELL pawned a petition from Belfast for
the disarming of the yeoman force of Ireland.
Sir IL BATESON trnsled that no such prayer respecting
this most constitutioul hoes would be esamplied with ; he
hoped that the Government would not so unwisely tlwow
itself into the arms of any party as to dissent the yummy
of Ireland.

GRATTAN hoped that Lord Anglesey would
attend to one party, namely. that of the people.
Mr. CRAMPTON trusted that the Government would
not maintain the yeomanry owe hour longer than the interests
of the country required such forts nor disperse it at the re-
quest of any party.
Mr. O'CONNELL replied, that It the yeomanry were to
be dispersed when nolonger wanted, they might be disbanded
immediately. (Hear.) He hoped another shooting match
was not wanted, such as had occurred at Newtownbarry.
The petition was from Protestants.
Ordered to be printed.
Mr. O'CONNELL presented petitions from Meath and
two other places, for the repeal of the Legislative Union.
'Air. HUNT begged leave to say, in explanation of a pre.
vious discussion, that he had Dever recommended the Eng-
lish poor laws for Ireland, but had said some poor laws for
Ireland were requisite.
Petitions ordered to be printed.
Mr. O'CONNELL moved for accounts respecting the
tnanfacture of glass in Ireland.—Ordered.