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sere a dons of my Hon. Ft iend (Mrs H. G. Bennet),
There may be those aho thought the subject to which
it r ~••• A.,.riti-1 will not say that lam one;
but I am one who think that the use of such language
by a Minister of the Crown is quite new in the House
of Commons—((:'errs). I may be pardoned if ! speak
with warmth, after the attack which had been made
upon a 'fellow Member, and that Member my valued
and dear friend, whom all who know must esteem
and tespect for the amiable and excellent qualities of
his heart—(Hear, hear).-11earinf such an attack, it
was impossible for me to sit silent'—(Cheers).—With
respect to the genet al question, continued the Hon.
and Learned Getalettian, he would only say, that
without entering into the personal character of Lord
Sidmouth, which the Noble Marquis (Londonderry)
had sn inticKdwelt upon in his speech, a mote absurd
or ridiculous attempt than that of raising him to the
office of Prime Minister of the country, and particti-
larlv at the time he was so raised, had never before been
heard of—(Near).—The Hon. and Learned Gentle-
man then proceeded to contend, that for the exertions
of Lord Sidmouth at the peace of Amiens, the praises
of the Noble Marquis were not altogether deserved.
The Noble Marquis should have gone on and de-
scribed how long that peace lasted, and what the
measures subsequently taken, of which it was boasted
that Lord Sidniouth laid the foundation, had cost the
.country—a load of debt which they would find it
difficult to forget. He then defended his Hon. Friend
(Mr. H. G. Bennet) against the charge of the Noble
Lord—that his (Mr. Bennet's) remarks on the subject
of the situation which the Noble Lord (Sidmouth)
had pro used for a part of his family were intended
lo wound that Noble Lord's feelings. Nothing could
be Nether from. his Hon. Friend's intentions, and all
who knew him must know that he was incapable of
such conduct ; but the Noble Lord, who knew as
well as any man where the shoe pinched, knew also
that it was not the individual filling the situation of
a sinecure to whom the objection was made, but to
the principle of keeping up places which were wholly
unnecessary. It was this allusion which was meant,
and which the Noble Marquis in reality felt; and not
anything which could be personally offensive to the
feelings of the Noble Lord iSidmouth).
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY again rose
and said, It has been intimated, that as a Minister
of the Crown, I assumed an improper tone in the
c 'arse of the discussion. Ido not know that I have
assumed any tone, which, as a Member of this
hlouse, I was not entitled to, and I trust that I am
not piecluded from speaking my sentiments as a
Member of Parliament, because I happen to be a
Minister of the Crown—(Hear).—l beg to say, that
1 have not used any expressions in any other sense
than that which the usage of Parliament sanctions.
I did not apply the words in question to the general
scope of the Honourable Member's argument; but
when I heard my Noble Friend, the late Secretary
of State, resembled to a door• keeper—(Hear, hear)—
and when I heard it intimated that the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman (Mr. Cteevey) was prepared to
prove that all the great families, since the Revolution,
wet e corrup.ed by places such as these, I could not
help thinking such an argument disgusting and dis-
graceful. I could not help saying so ; and, though
the expressions were strong, yet, upon reflection, I
cannot persuade myself that they were in any way
misapplied"—(Hear).
Mr. B. BATHURST contended, that the grant of a pension
to his Noble Relative, whose services, he maintained, richly
merited it, was not in violation of the Act which Mr. Cretvey
proposed to repeal.
Mr. CR EE VEY bristly replied, and after disclaiming all mo-
tives of personal hostility to Lord Sidmouth and his family, pro-
ceeded to observe, that as the Hon. Member for Corfe Castle
bad moved as an amendment, that the House should proceed
to the other orders of the day, and as his (Mr. Creevey's) object
was to put his resolutions upon the journals, he should merely
band up to the Speaker his first resolution. He should then take
the sense of the House upon it ; and if it were negatived, he
should then move his other resolutions, as the other orders of
the day were proposed to be read. He did not, however, intend
to divide the House upon any of his resolutions, except the first.
The House then divided upon Mr. Bankes's amendment, when
there appeared—
For the Amendment - 143
For the original Motion - 42
Majority -101
The House then proceeded to the other Orders of the Day,
in the course of which Mr. C moved his Resolutions be-
tween each Order, but they were negatived without a division.
Adjourned at lialf-past Two o'Clock this morning.

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