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MEM'ilßr PROCEEDINGS.

NOOSE OF LORD 3, MAY H.

The Coremktee of Vrkrikites nn the Claims of the Borthwlek
Peerage, witch small for this Jay. was alutatirsl tilt Thursday
next

Ihe Isiah Cot.rt Howes and the Beti,li Wine Duties Repeal
Nits ivere brought up from :he Com:on:I; by Mr. linono IN ;
and a n mbev of Private or Lecal Bill: by. Sir .I.asits
GRA is %M. and ocher Members, which were all rrad a first time.
• In the question for the third reading of the Aliens Regulation
6s

Esti STANiI:)PI. made- a varietruf observations, hut par-
ticillarly upset the language and dicthvt of the fill, which he
(attended was erroneous, and liable tti.tni t h injor•oof nil .con-
rrectieo. He dowle a good deal oh join; lie conceived the
neerassirs of having certain parcutht srlin the properly ths-
tmetosited its she Bill. It was well known that all the.ptops,
enlons,entuntas,serascolous,And so on, wierr introduced by the
Kiug's Printer, whrn tame under, bard.; but never the
p•sr •nthea s f.rr wh eh proper blanks were leff in the original Bill
or Rico: d, and In defied fother of the Noble and Learned Ltirdt
(11 soil Ellesitioroug! ) on the right and on the kit of a
touch luster judge 't the (I.Altet llor) than either of them to con-
trovrrt wl.at he said. liy los construction of the part of the Bill.
to which he more e.pecially ref: reed, on 11.1tvieual may be in.
dictr.! tor the uott-ecottoission of an etience against the Ae,, as
well as 'tie rue eonotin...ten tit tine, and to obviate this glariog
detect, as tie f moldered it to 144 lie moved for the 001114400 01
curtain e ores in that pact of the 11111.
The Hill brit% read a third time, the question was formally
pus out It, antru.lnies.t proposed by the Noble Zari, .whlch.was
understood to tw neg.norci, and the Bill was then passed, and
message erderel to acquaint the Commons therewith.
The Marquis o ItOtIGLAS stated he had a number of Peti-
tions to prey-rot Irons callous places in Scotland, where the inha-
bitant-, availing thrmsetref of the last clause in the Qoin Ban,
had theretore pi intoned lor its repeal.
I he I\ d.i N:arqvis rent the list of the places whence the
Petitiolis cant' ; hu. the consideration of War final reception
was postrated.

PROPERTY TAX AiLL.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL having moved the
third reading n. t this IS:11--
Tne Duke of NORFOLK rose, and re-urged his
former objections to the measure io its present shape.
He admitted the principle of the Tax to be good, as
going to provide that every man who had his pro.
perty secuteu aheuld pay for that protection as an
in,.ividoal, what Ile received from the State. The
1 ix, as Introy arm pi operty, he considered to pro.
cried upon similar principle as the Land Tax had
heeo originally proposed at the time of the Union,
hi:, as ir was now applied to the proceeds• or profits
upon C4ltn I, or trade, Of pfots4loll%, or talents, as
Isamg al* uncertain sources of income, he highly dis.
app) rived at it. But the iiijuriops way in which its
prov;aions hare upon the tanners or occupiers of
land, was what the Noble Duke more particularly
dwelt noon ; and he earnestly suggested to Ministers
the proprie.y, if such could be clone without a mate-
rial diminnoins of the receipts, of revising on a future
day all that part of the Kill. 1-loweet r, tie considered
the situaien of the country to be such as to require
this great tin tocial ;treasure, and he hoped the even-
tual use at the extensive powers entrusted to his Ma-
jesty's Government, would be the establishment of a
secure peace upon fair and honourable terms, such
as a nation like this had a right to expect. Upon
these grounds it was that he now voted for the chord
trading of the Bill.
The Esti of DARNLEY etpressed his cement%
tense in the. general scope and tendency of the Noble
Duke's opinions ; and alluding to the particular des
criinion if persons, a hom he, with the Last speaker,
thought were an precsed upon by the Bill, he express-
ed his hope that justice would tie afforded 'to a class
ot• men always remarkable for their toyalty and ex-
ertions, and who wire at all times ready to bear their
due proportion ot the public Dui then*.
The Marquis of DOUGLAS declared his strong
dissent in many important points from both his Noble
Friends who had just spoken. He entertained ditie-
rent ideas as to its principle ; its radical detect he
thought the inequality ot its operation. But he fear.
fully considered the measure as the first step towards
a war. A nation of thirty millions of inhabitants, he
must think, had a right to choose What Government
it liked best ; and he quoted, with much disapproba-
tion, part ot the Manitesto of Loris XVIII. wham
he asserts, that the Sovereigns of Europe would have
no Sovereign of France but himselt ; and thinking of
the measute and its most probable consequences, as
he did, he should think he ill discharged his duty it
he did not declare his strong dissent trona it.
The Earl of DARNLEY explained, that the vote
be shiadd give on this occasion had no reference to
• cluoquestion of peace or war ; or would it go to
tns.ly any thing like approbation on his part of the
Declarations ot Vienna, or of Louis XVlll.—but he
v,jfeid upon his conviction that the measure was ne-
cess..ry, wider the present circumstances, for the
security of the country.
'n al Earl of LT V Elt FOOL said, !,e entirely agreed
with the No ie Lord who had just sat down, that
votiag for the bill in question could not pledge any
Nou'ihs- Lord as to the circumstances under which it
may he fit to Tenet./ ho,tiliacs. it was well known
that Parliament had aliratly recognized the principle
of armed preparidiou, with a view either to necessary
war, ur to hegocistt 01; and it was ,as well known,
t.l.tt a financial met Atte of this' kind, in that view,
abscluttly socessary. On tither ground the mea.
suet simakiiiise-aoppented,inrirell by those Who- were
most de•iroiss for the continuance Of peace, as by
those who may be inclined tot a renewal el hostilities.
He was aware, at adverted to by a Noble Marquis,
that a seetiment was pretty generally repeated
throughout the country_ against the renewal of this
Tax, but that stntiment was expressed against it as a
peace measure. He believed now, and must sincerely,
there was a general sentiment throughout the country
that, looking to the change which had taken place,
the renewal of tlis measure was indispensably ntces-
-6 try.— (Ilear,kar).—With respect to the original in.
tendial duration of the 'fax, a very mistaken notion
seemed to prevail, in thinking it was actually pro.
posed to expire on the sth of April subsequent to a
definitive treaty of peace. Such was nut toe real in-
tent and meaning at the time. but that the question
of it. continuance, relinquishment, or modification,
should then be open fur the consideration of Parliii-
mem., 'lie principle of the measure as 14[014
adopted, was that it should go to all descriptions in
property. Much difficulty obtained in the applica-
tiou of the 'Fax, 16 as to get those descriptions, al-
ILAUed to mote than once in the discussion, to pay ii.
die same pr4riion as lands, or the funds; in fact,
it wait scantily possible. He admitted the cummer
cirri claw., paid the least proportion ; it was una
voidahle from the nature ut the case, and he nillb
express his belief, that much of that kind of property,

if not affected by the Propetty,Tax, would riot hire.
been paid fbr at all. The Tax in questimrains.uperno
the: whole, .the least nnequil that could pdesitit be
devised; and much -of the objections of Noble Lords,
in reference to the situation of farmers and ocetipiers
°Hand, under certain chcninstances, was referable
'to the consideration of the danence between the,
principle and operation of the Tan, as originally pro.
posed at five per cent. and its subsequent accretions,
up to its present talcs of ten per cent. With respect
to the political ccnsiderations which may he deemed
connected with the present question, he thought this
was neither the regular or the proper time for their
discussion. No implication of the kind, either with
a view to the alternative of peace or war, was involved
in a vote for the present Bill ; but with reference to
the Declaration from Vienna, which was considered
by some as suggesting the idea of assassination, he
could distinctly state, in justice to the illustrious per.
son with signed that instrument, cn the part M this
Government, that it was not in that sense he signed
,that Deelarativn.

The blarquis.of LANSDOWNE made some ob.
servations, ptincipally in reference to what had fallen
from the Noble. Lail on the point of the originally.
proposed (filiation of the Property Tax:. Such an
understanding as was alluded to,' he believed, existed
'in the public mind ; or otherwise, he imagined, re.
petted attempts would have been made to ptoduce
such a declaratif,n from Parliament. The Property
Tax, be thought, was considered essentially as a war
tax; and he trusted Parliament would never forego.
the right at least of re-eonsideting, at the termination
of hostilities, as to its continuance, propordosi
modification. In the present instance, he conceived
its proposition to be only as for a single year ; and:he
trusted, if opportunity should arrive, .that endea-
vours would be made to render it less objectionable,
and its operation more equal ; at the same tinr, he
admitted, he knew of no way,, in which so large' a
sum as fourteen millions could be raised within the
year with less inequality than by the measure in
question.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL, in explanation, ob.
served, that in his firm conviction, the original mea-
sure, by its expiring on the sth of April was. -that
after. that period, it should be open fer the considera-
tion of Parliament, to revise, continue in any parti-
cular proportion, or modify it, according to its view
of circumstances or the necessity of the case ; and
that it was not originally considered merely as it 'war
tax, was plain from the circumstance of its having
been at one time actually mortgaged for war loans
to a considerable amount : the effect of which was
obviated by measures subsequently propoied by a
Noble Friend of his. He agreed that it would not
be fit to frame the Fax in time of war that it should
so continue in time of peace; but he thought Patlia-
mem should not preclude itself from a conaideration
of the question. in the re-establishment of peace,
and that it should he lett still open to the wiidnin of.l
the Legislature to act with respect to it, according to
ita view of all the circumstances of the case.
Earl STANHOPE declared his intention. when
the Bill should be read a third time, to propose two
Amendments. These were, to omit the whole of the •
Schedule B. which related to the tenants, and which
would go to relieve the consumer, as the farmers
tbrsw their proportion of the Tax upon them, by
raising the prices of corn. And the second. would 1
be to leave out the Schedule D. which
traders and manufacturers, and precisely on the same
ground for the relief of consumers. •
The Bill being read a third time, the Noble Earl
moved his first amendment, and which being nega-
tived, he declined moving the second as useless on
that account.

The Bill was then passed, and a message sent to
inform the Commons thereof.

A short convers.ition took place between the Loan
CHANCELLOR and the Marquis of DOUGLAS relative
to the Petitions adverted to as above. The former
Pees seemed to say he should take an opportunity of
looking into them, and if their tenour and form was.
not objectionable, he should not object to their 're-.
ception ; and the Noble Marquis observed, he had
not looked over them all thoroughly, he presented
them under the idea of the generak right of the sub-
ject to petition, but appeared to say, he should not
urge the reception of any thing that may be informal
or erroneous in that respect.
The Exchequer Bills Annuity Bill, was, on the
motion of the Earl of LIVERu OOL. read a third time
and passed.
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The Duke of NORFOLK inquired whether it
was proposed any communication should be made re-
lative to the present state of affairs before the holidays?
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said he could not an-
swer the Noble Duke's question at the moment; but
it was certainly hia intention to move to-morrow, that
the House should adjourn till Thursday next.
Several Bills (mostly Returns) were brought up
from the Commons by Mr. BnooDEN and other.
The original Bills were read a first time.
On the motion of Lord MONTFORT, the farther
proceedings in the case of Leigh's Divorce Bill were
fixed for Friday next.
The seaseinuog - Bills en the Table yore thee foe*
warded in their respective -stages, and the Howie ad.
journed till to-morrow.

• HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. BROADEN brought up the Report of the Resolution of
the Committee of Ways and Means, on the subject of funding
Exchriletr
The CHANCELI.OR of the EXCHEQUER shortly ad-
versed to the principle on which the Resolution was founded. It
was proposed, hi ceder to raise the suns of eighteen Millions, to
accept, from the former subscribers, to the sum of .Ei 0,000,000
(to whom the preference in As first instance was to be given)
any amount they might think proper to subscribe, at the rate of
SO per cent._

&Ir. I lERNEY said, he was aware that k had been proposed
that 80 per cent. should be -tihscrilsed in Exchequer Bilk, by the
original subsenbers to the Ant .ei 0,01 0,000. 'the consequence
of this was, that they set at, .at purchasing Exchequer Bills with
the utmost avidity. 1 his urucceditig bad the effect of raising
the rice from 4s to I Is. ius. and even 141. premium. After
those persons had made this purchase, the Right Hon. Gentle.
man sent to smarm them, that Chow Exchequer Bills would nut
be wanted at al,. he consequi sire was, that the price of Ex-
chequer Bilk immediately itll as many slaillings as it had preirl-
oust), risen—and the unfortunate purchaser was subjected to a
loss of eight or ten studious on each Exchequer Bill he had, taus
.ter these circumstances, been Induced to buy. He was obliged
to put up with this lose, for no other reason, but• because die
Chancellor oh the Exchequer had not, at ten o'clock In the ntorta-
mg, made up his mind as to what he meant to do at one in the
afternoon ; for his two letters on the 'abject were completely at
+arianer.

the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, a depota-
•,.n treinv the Stock E►achange had waited on him, at Downing
Weet, and the representation made by them, occasioned the

alteration tualtell by the biotic IToe. Cadenza.- Tn tease-
pence of that alteration, some few permits, whis bail purchased
Ei,blorquer Oils, would probably be losers, but not to any great
Amens. •
Mr. TIERNEY knew nothing of any deputation.. He con- 1
c'eived the statement of shin Right Hon. Gentkmatt to be 01-
'14%1141y unsatisfactory. lie again contended, that the tiansac-
,tiost had considerably Injured a number of persons.
r CHANCELIMR. of the EXCHEQUER .eald, that the
loss sustained was occasioned by the. Cootie-mu ectocireed soot
acting in concert with each other.
Mr I'IIJtNEY—" If I buy a commodity at a cerain price,
for the purpose of making use at it in a line where leaped to•
realize considerable profit, and find the door shut again ,t me.
when I am about to dines* of it, I must attribute the loot ewes-
stoned by !Ills eircianstat ce to the conduct of those who have
prevented me from going into the marks"
After a few words from the CHANCELLOR of the EX-'
CHEQUER, the Report Wi4 agreed to—and a Bill ordered to
be brought in, confeemably with the Resolution. • •
Lord CAS TLEILEAOH gave notice that he would. tomor-
row, move—u That the House, at its rising, do adjourn all
'1 Sunday, the lath instant•
nossAN CATHOLIC PITITIOS.
Sir H. PARNELL Sir, I hold in my hand a
Petition from the Roman Catholics of Ireland. The
Gentlemen who intrusted it to my care have informed
me, that the Roman Catholics' are particularly mixt.
pus that the merits of their claims should be taken
into consideration in the present Session. I. think it
proper, thereline, to give notice, that I shall move,
on this day fortnight, that the House do form itself
into a Committee, to take into consideration the laws
affecting the Roman Catholics. Prior to that period,
if the courtesy of the House will allow me, I shall
submit certain resolutions, Containing the full extent
' of the claims of the Catholic Body. Ido not tueln
$o irorndote them "for the .puepoesf trf provoking a
premature discunitm • but from a desire to the
House in possession of every thing relating to those
claims. I shall afterwards move the Resolutions in
the Committee, if it he conceded. At present I shall
merely tnove—s That the Petition be now read'."
Mr. TIERNEY—s. It understand the Honour-
able Baronet,' he has mentioned, that claims of a de-
finitive nature will he submitted to the House, in
formal resolutions, it the Committee be gr.lnsed.
Now I wish to know, whether those .Resolutines
speak the sense of the whole Catholic Body—or only
of* part of it ? And if theiatterbe the taw, of what
portion does it speak the sentiments ?"
Sir H. PA RNELL—ss I can answer the questiohs
of the Right Hon. Gentleman, I think satisfactorily:
This is the Petition of certain Roman Catholics of
Ireland, whose signatures are affixed•thereto, on be-
half of themselves and the Catholic Body of Ireland.
It comes exactly from the same description of per-
sons
.with whom the other Petitions on the lame sub-
ject, •which have been discussed by the house, ori-
ginated; and, as far as that opinion can be expressed
under the existing restraint which the law puts on
them, and which provosts them from sending dele-
zates to meetings, it does express the sense bf the
Roman Catholics of Ireland. With respect to the
extent of unanimity, which the sentiments contained
in the resolutions meet with, I can state from commu-
nications I have had on the subject, that they speak
the correct attd unequivocal opinion of the moat of
the Roman Catholics of Ireland. With 'regard to
the claims of the Catholics, and the propriety of
laying those claims before the House,.in the shape of
Restitutions, before the main discussion came on, the
reason is this :—lt. appears to he very desirable that,
in entering on a new discussion M the Petition of the
Catholic body. the House should be put in posses-
`ston—and, as fai as is proeticable, they might to be
Fut in exact possession—=of alfthat• taw .Roman Ca-
tholics require from the House.:. I have it in my
power to state decidedly to the House, that I trial
submit to them Resolutions, that I pre<ssr correctly
the opinion of the Catholic Body, with:respects to the
extent of their claims; so that if the• House accede
to what is contained rn these resolutions, they will
give perfect son/Medlin to that great body of 'their
know-subjects." The Petition was 'then read. .
On Sir H..PARNELL moving—" That.the.P
tition do lie on the table,"
Sir J. HIPPISLEY rose and said, he would. be
perfectly ready to enter on the discussion of this mo-
mentous question. The settlement of the Catholic
Claims, under proper securities, would, he was con-
vinced, tend to the peace and concord of the coin-.
try—to the support of the establishment in Chtirell.
send State----and to the general benefit-of the Empire.
When he said this, hos.,-..ver, he felt it necessary to
observe, that he should oppose the prayer I'd- ihe Peti-
tion, as far as it went to deqsalyied Linenrifratioft.
Mr. BANKES gave nattee that he would, to-nsor.
row, move that the House be called over, on the day'
which the Honourable Baronet had . selected' for his
motion —(Hear, hear.) Thire could be no qu-stion,
that the importance of the subject • was so great,
Whatever the ultimate decision of the House might
be, as to render a full attendatice,of Member; pe.
cessary—(Hear, hear.).
The Petition was then laid on the table.
Sir H. PARNELL-*—ss On this day fortnight I
shall move, that the House do form itself into a COM-
niittee, to take into consideration the state of the
laws affecting his Majesty's Catholic subjects—and,
preparatory to that. discussion, 1 shall, on this day
wwk. lay before the. }104114 a series of Resolutions."
Mr. BANKES had ,not . deter Mined whether he
'could suffer this subject to be discussed, in part, with-
out a full attendance 6f'Members. The House ought
not to tape any step, in'a.Matter of such importance,
without the most serious' deliberation.
SLlCrions.
' Mr, LOCKHART moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to regulate the right of frettnen and burgesses to
vote at elections for Members to sesye iq•Perliament
which, after a desultorrconsersatioes between Messrs..
Tierney, Row, Wetherall; Cakraft, W.. Wynne, and
Sirs M. W. Ridley and J;;Newp3it. Was granted.
Mr. LOCKRART then brought in the 11‘11, which
wai read a first, and ordered to be nod a second time-
on Fnday fortnight. a • • • .
THE WFW PAEAcr.
.Mrt BENNET 1' moved for an account of the
money. expealed on the new b.uilding in Windsor
Park, together with an estimate-of the sum wanted to
complete the same • . • •
The• Motion was agreed 'to, after * few words atom
the CHANcitu.ort of the Exnusauaii •
STAMP- nu Tt Ss.
T!ie CHANCELLOR sot the EXCHEQUER
moved, that the Order of the Day for taking into
urther consideration the Report of. ihe Committee of
Ways and Means, relative to Stamp Duties, be now
read, for the purpose of Postponing it, as he had se-
'reral alterations to propose.

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Mr. tOCICHART said, he intended to suggest
the Right Hon. 14;rentleman the propriety of, laying
some additional stamp on banker's local notes—and
also of providing srune more efficient means for end.
Wing counki bankers to transmit their paper to Lfpr.
don. By the present system they were exposed to
great rob)sery.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
observed, that both these points were worthy (It con
sideration ; and, after an observation from Mr. 'net.
nel, he postponed till Friday se'nnight, the farther
,consideration of the Report.
• MISCELLANIES.

.71to CHANCEI.LOIt of the EXCHEQUER five roti.-.e,
thetbe would, tomorrow, move for leave to bring in a Witt..
establish a regular communication, by packet, be•ween th::
country and India.
lit. Irish Malt Duty Bill went through a Committee arts
nine conversation between Sir Jour. Nastrostr, Mr. Vasty
Fultuatoao,' and Mr. Was. Saute. he Report was ordered
to Ile received to-morrow.
Mr. Set jeans ONSLOW moved, " That a Committee be sr.
pointed to examine the Journals of the House of Lord. with re.
sped to the procettlings of their Lord•liips, on a Bill for ni,,rr
effee•ually securing the liserty ,f the valjek r."
The motion was agreed to ; as.d Sir J NI s^. pod r, Mr. V% .
Wrame, and Mr. Sesirert ONSLDW, were al`poll.lttd 14
the Journals.
The Chancey Clerks and the Farr .r 4 Stwk Bill, W.I.
read the third time and, passed.
The Irish Assessed Tales Bin went through a Cuntmia. _
Report to morrow.
1 be Report ot the Militia Amendment Bill w.-. 4 agreed to.—
To he r. ail the third titre to-morrow.

'I he iittri. a Committee on the Prmion., t., itc
granted 10 retired Eact India. IUdZeS. Ret(ollllirus for grautine
the Oki Juniee of Bombay, Madra.. ::11 Fon St Crow,
Ittkeripiviol4lß7/ cmoleYed fiw Pr'eel Y•aro, win annuity,
io be here•lter specifte4, were agreed. to.--lierrirt to-morrow.
The Report of the Committer on Weights and hleasareiN •
agreed to; and a Bill ordered to be introduced, iu cui,fcrn...y
wnh thr Itest,hitimn.

The I mils' Amendments in the Alit- n Act were ecree3
1 CM went through a Committee. !'t.•
port tva% agree.l to, and the Bill ordered to be ttaal a tbud

to-nvireow.
The Report of the Irish Gaols Contract Bill was agreed
after a few observation• between Mr. ry.p.L, at.d Sir I.
PORT, and the third trailipg tire I fur t!.is thy settn•ght.
••I he Report of the East India Silk Haticlkerchit f Bill was
brought up. and agreed to; anda Bill was ordered to be hruu&Lt
in accordingly.
The Oak Bark Bill was read a second time. To b. enouica.
ted tomorrow.

A message from the Lords announced their Lordship% agree-
ment to the Property Tax Bill, the Fachequer }Lt;•l,ug
BM, and several Private Billz.—Adjnurned.

FLANDERS MAII..

AUGSBURG. APRIL 24.

Private accounts from Upper Italy state, that the
brave Army, and the Commander in Chief, Baron
Frimont, being numerous enough to purqte
beaten and dispersed remains of the Neapolitan Army,
all the reinforcement of troops, 4t►,tlpo in number,
which were already on the march to the Smith ct
Italy, have received orders to proceed by forced
marches to Savoy and Piedmont. We expect, there-
fore, soon to hear of military operations in the south-
ern frootiers of France.

Letters from Venice of the 22d, state that tl-e
Austrian army is already below Ancona, and that
every thing is ready to attempt an assault upon the
Pie
• . VIENNA, APRIL 26.

The Declaration of the Emperor of Russia, at
King of Poland, had been long a subject of delibera.
tit.* at the Congrvas, paititularly °V. slie Courts o
Viettnalid_St. Pettrsbuth, but it &pawed on the
coarse of affairs in Italy. As soon as Austria de•
dared !be independence of the kingdom of L-stn•
hardy, that of Poland was also decided ; each swat
dependant on the other. The business is now sett:Pd.
and all the hopes of exciting disorders in Polan.4,
ot. which report has spoken, will now vanish cf
themvelfes.