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was anxious to do so, both upon the justice of the 1 SiteJOHN ANSTRUTHSR objected to the mo-
case, and from
the knowledge which every / one must - tion on account of its generality, and its assuming as
ease of the suspicions prevailing in the minds of the a facts that there existed abuses in all the departments
1 ho were calling loudly for inquiry. But State, in proof of which there was not a tittle of
otion of the Noble Lord was not evidence. But the Hon. Gentleman behind him, (Mr.
sPcsleg' that
.the m.
h as lie imagined it would have been---:finding `Hutchinson) went farther, for he said, that the gene-
, t,
was one of a general nature, and that its tens I ral system of the Government was such as ought not
;Sat it
der.cv was to
put whole departments upon trial with-1 to be continued. The House of Commons was part
t env specific chues of delinquency stated, he • of that system, and he, therefore, now called upon the
out •
cold notconcur in that motion.—He felt himself . House of Commons to try itself.—Hear, hear !—A
..
it in its present shape, and he , Gentleman under the Gallery had said, that it was
sound to dissent from
.ouid wait till either the Noble Lord, or some one as right to suspect persons in office. What right had he
i
e%l able as he was, or better, came prepared to state I to suspect them ? If he had any facts to produce, let
• ilar charges against particular individuals. i him state them ; but if he had no facts to state, then
partici , . , ,
ele PONSONBY hoped that he would not be ac- !he had no right to suspect. As to the inadmissibility
cured of protecting abuses ; for none would more ! of the motion, he thought there could be no doubt
wangle expose abuses and punish the delinquents,' upon that point. It went to inquire into one did
where delinquency was proved. But this motion as- not know what, and was utterly incompatible with
soled the existence of abases in every department of , any practical plan of conducting business. If parti-
the state, without any proof ; and therefore he disap- : cular facts were stated, it might be fair and reasonable
proved of it. If the Noble Lord followed the ex- ;to investigate ; but at the same time he could not
ample of the Honourable Gentlemanwho had brought . listen to vague and loose stories even against indivi-
forward the charges against the late Commander in . duals. The proper plan was to send them to the
Chief—if lie specifically stated his charges, and the ! Attorney-General, and not to place the justice of the
individuals against whom they were directed, he country in the worst possible hands ; not only in the
would have every redress which he himself could wish • hands of the House of Commons ; but what was still
for. The Honourable Gentleman to whows he al- . worse, in those of its Committees.
luded had stated his charges specifically—he had : Mr. P. MOORE could not vote for the motion in
stated how he meant to prove them, and laid that its present shape, and he wished the Noble Lord would
ground for accusation in the House which all were withdraw it, and bring it forward in a less objection-
hound to do who moved for Committees of this kind. : able mode. He thought the motion was to have been
such thing was done here ; the object was to take to refer the minutes to a Committee, that some prac-
sp some collateral points in the evidence already ad- tices which had come out incidentally might be fur-
doced, in order to criminate the whole system of the ther investigated. But he found the Noble Lord
Government. He could not vote for a motion which proposed to go much farther than this. There had
left the House so much in the dark ; and he was the been, he observed, twenty-one levies in the course of
more averse to it: from observing a disposition in those some years back on the principle of Colonel French's
with whom it originated to charge every man in office levy. The public had paid for these about £500,000
with delinquency—(Hear! Hear! hear!)—to consi- while they had been very unproductive in the way of
,?sr them all as knaves and rogues alike, and equally raising men. The Commissioners of Accounts had
inclined to support abuses and corruption. Now this only examined the documents for about one-half of
he would take upon himself positively to contradict ; this sum, and had already discovered frauds to an
sad as positively to affirm, that there were many in enormous extent. The Noble Lord might perceive
that House as far above such practices as those who , from this, that the investigation of the particulars
preferred the charge ; and with respect to himself he ' partially exposed in these Minutes of Evidence, would
must further say, that there was no truth in the words , alone furnish ample matter for the exertions of a
cf any of them who held themselves out as being ho- ii Committee, for the whole of the present Session.
nester men than he was. (Hear ! hear ! ) He was; Mr. CANNING observed, that he rose not because
disposed to go as far against extravagance and abuses he had much to add to what had been already said on
as any man ; but he could not vote for a motion of this i this subject, but because the public feelings had been
!
vague and general nature. so much excited, that in his situation he might be
'lr. HUTCHINSON could not content himself' thought not to have acted a manly part, if lie gave
with a silent vote on a motion of this importance.— 1 a silent vote. He fairly avowed that, on grounds
1-1; would support the motion of the. Noble Lord, which had been already stated, no apprehension of
and would br;efly state his reasons. He considered consequences, be they what they might, could prism-
this as a most awful moment ; he did not attribute bly induce him to vote for this motion. It was im.
improper motives to any man ; but he had unfortu- 1 possible, in his opinion, to do so in consistency with
stately long been of opinion, that the system upon : the duty which he owed to the House and to the
which the Government had for some time acted, was; Country, and therefore it had his decided opposition.
not such as ought to be continued—and had the fur- ! But in giving that opposition, he did not wish to
they misfortune to concur with many others, who ! oppose specific inquiry into specific abuses. The
thought that it it was continued the most calamito;is : course was to specify the abuse—to prove the charge,
consequences might ensue within a period up to i and then to proceedeo punishment. But this motion
which tl-kse in that House, who were lest very old, j was merely founded• upon general suspicion, and its
might live. Therefore, great as was the inconvenience ! object appeared to be, to keep alive the ferment which
of granting those unlimited powers which it was pro- ! was said to exist in the public mind. They who wish-
posed to vest in this Committee, he must, without any : ed to keep this ferment alive thought, no doubt, that
prejudice or partiality as to this or that Government,' it was proper to prevent its dying away—but, in his
vote for the Noble Lord's motion.. Considering the I opinion, it might be attended with a degree of mis-
eines, considering the state of public opinion, he j chief far beyond any thing contemplated even by the
thought that the investigation, however inconvenient, I most apprehensive. He denied that his Right Ho-
on;ht not to be stifled. He took it for granted, that i nourable Friend (Mr. Perceval), by his Bill, wished
the Noble Lord was prepared to bring some points to stifle abuses. It was directed against a specific
before the Committee as steal as it was constituted,; abuse, which was proved to exist—that of persons
and he could conceive that he might have some very pretending to have places and offices to dispose of, and
I
rational reasons for not choosing to mention them at the efficacy of the plan proposed to check this evil
present. Understanding the tuition to be directed ! would come to be discussed when the Bill was in the
not particularly against the existing Government or I hands of the Members. The Hon. Gentleman opposite
any other, but generally against abuses, he felt it his 1 (Mr. Moore) had stated a particular abuse, but in the
duty to support it. He venerated the ancient insti- - same breath he stated, that the circumstances were un-
tutions of the country, and no better proof could be der examination, and that overcharges had been disco-
given of that veneration, than to strike at the abuses vered. He allowed, that if new abuses were specifically
which had crept into them and threatened their de- stated, they ought to be inquired into, but the House
struction. The great object was to root out the sys-/ ought not to proceed merely on general suspicion. If
rem of corruption and abuse ; and believing this to it did so, the effect would be to increase that suspicion I
be the design of the Noble Lord's motion, and con- far beyond the truth, to augment and not to allay the I
ceiving it, notwithstanding its inconveniences, to be ferment, by which the public mind was alledged to
well calculated for that purpose, he could not refuse be agitated. But some thought it right to suspect
to give it all the support in his power. the Government; and a Gentleman over the way
Mr. CHARLES WYNNE observed, that if he . (Mr. Hutchinson) said, that the system of Govern-
understood the motion correctly, it went to an inquiry; ment for several years back had been such as ought
into all corrupt practices and abuses, without any re- :; not to be continued. But was the power of inquiry
striction as to time, place, or circumstance. All ¶ into the whole system of Government one which he
abuses, at whatever distance of time, whether those' would delegate to a Committee ? If ever there was
concerned were dead or alive, might be brought be- a statement which contradicted itself, it was that
lore this Committee, though those who might be able whiCh magnified the importance of the object in pro-
to explain or defend, might be in their graves. To ! portion as it diminished the ability arid respectability
,inch a motion he could not accede. The want of! of the agent.—(Hear, hear !)—lf he were to adopt the
limitation, as to time, was a strong objection ; but 1 ideas of the Honourable Gentleman with respect to
tae fully agreed with the Noble Lord below (Lord i the object, lie certainly could never bring himself to
Henry Petty), that it was improper to delegate to I consign so important a task to a Committee. But
a:iy Committee that discretionary inquisitorial power, ! was there no misehief in allowing the opinion to go
which belonged to the House itself. (Hear ! hear !) abroad that there %vas a consciousness on all hands
On every case brought before the House, it was cus- :! of such a rottenness in the practices of Govern-
:cmary
to act from considerations of prudence, as ment for several years past, as justified the enter-
well as with a view to abstract justice. In the first taining of such a motion as this—as justified the
Place, the House ought to be enabled to decide, , appointment of a Committee, which, as it would
.yhether the case was of sufficient magnitude to call : be unlimited in its retrospective powers, must afford
Tor inquiry ? and, secondly, whether the evidence ; but a very distant prospect indeed of future advan
stated was sufficient, if actually produced, to bring . tage ? Was the motion founded on the idea that all
home the charge to the accused ? Ile had heard that ! public men ought to be objects of suspicion ? Was it
-here might be cases brought forward, which had ; conceived that the indulgence and emoluments could
taken place in Ireland previous to the Union—cases be the objects of liberal men in aspiring to office ?
'elicit might affect Lord Cornwallis and Mr. Pitt, ; Were the anxieties—the severe duties of such situa-
olo were in their graves. He was ready to say, that ! tions considered ? Were these things to be compen-
'!ea greatest inconveniencies would result from this. I sated by money ?—(Hear, Hear!) If there were any
;n short, there was no case, at whatever distance of i persons who could entertain such ideas of liberal men
''me it might have occurred, which a Committee, ; who aspired to office, it would be his pride to be an
enstituted as the Noble Lord proposed, could refuse' object of their suspicion.— (Hsar, hear.) This he
:o entertain. Such a motion could not be acceded i would say, that if the Noble Lord and his abettors
e, and it had his decided opposition. ; succeeded in driving all liberal men from the pursuit
Mr. THOMAS FOLEY did not conceive that of office, the cast of public men must be a degraded
there was any weielit in the argument as to the sus- ' cast, into which no honest man could, in consistency
eicion which the motion was said to cast upon all the with his own reputation, enrol himself. These were
departments of Government. An inquiry would be : the sentiments which he took the liberty to submit to
!he most effectual way to do away these suspicions, : the House. He could not, therefore, let out this
if they turned out to be unfounded. That there was I wide-wasting power which was claimed by the Noble
strong suspicion in the public mind could not be' Lord—a power which could not be allowed to exist,
s:.ubted. It that suspicion was not founded in fact,l without creating suspicions of the most disgraceful
„rise who laboured under it ought to have an oor- I nature, which it would be impossible to do away.—
elnity of clearing themselves. But if, on the. pp
con- ! (Hear, hear.)
-.try, crying abuses actually existed, inquiry was ne- I Lord H. PETTY, in explanation, denied his hay-
sssary to expose these abuses. and to prevent their a ing any intention to attribute to the Right Honoura-
ecurrence. Iu every view, therefore, lie was con- I ble Gentleman opposite (Mr. Perceval) any design
soced of the propriety—of the necessity of inquiry, ;to stifle inquiry into abuses by his Bill.
d would therefore vote for the motion. i Mr. MOORE said that it was not sufficient that


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expenditure of the money on the levies *as wider in-
#estigation, it was further necessary to ascertain how
they -had been obtained and how conducted.
Lord FOLKSTONE, •in explanation, said that
his motion was not of that general kited which some
Gentlemer. took it to be. He had speCified_particular
parts of the evidence which he wished to submit to a
Committee (A cry of Spoke, Spoke ! ) He denied,
therefore, that his motion Went to involve all men in
accusation. The Gentlemen who opposed it seemed
to misunderstand the case. If this had been an en-
tirely original proceeding, their arguments might have
some weight—as the matter stood they were perfectly
groundless.—The House then divided—
_ _

DUTCH

The practices of the Dutch Commissioners, as deg
tailed in the Report of the Finance ComMittee,. hai;
etched considerable surprise. At present we can
only briefly state the substance. . .
These Commissioners, it appears,entefed upon their
office withoutmaking any express agreement what they..
Were to be paid, and they continued so to act for twelve,
years, without ever giving the slightest intimation to
Government as to what they were taking in way of
remuneration, whilst they were during this time, on
their own authority; Withdrawing five per cent. from
all the gross proceeds of public money that went
through their hands. This they have declared td
be the usual mercantile commission ; whereas it ap-
pears on examination that half that sum, viz. two and
a half per cent. is the usual mercantile commission,
which even they theMselves paid to others.
And farther it appears, that by the usual mercan-
tile practices an interest account is kept between mer-
chants selling on commission and their employers ;
the, former paying to the latter the interest of the ave-
rage balance retained in their hands—whereas these
Dutch Commissioners retained an immense balance;
some part of which they ate discovered to have ton-
Alerted to personal gain, even by negotiating private
bills of exchange with it ; they admit that they never
meant to place the whole of the interest actually re-
ceived, to the national account ; and still less that•
which might have been received from the more active
employment of the money. But their intentions will
be plain enough from these citcuritstances, that of the
; public money etnployed at interest they made no mi-;
• mute ; no proof of such employment appears in their
cash-book ; and when required by the Comtnittee, to
give an account of their fees and other emoluments, they
directly stated that they had " no sAary,, fees, or
emoluments," but that commission which they deno•
minated the usual one.

so
Majority --148
The MICRETARY at WAR presente4 an Account of Fees
received at his Office from January. 1808, to 1809. 0
Mr. HUSKISsON moved that their be :lid on the table an
Account of the unpaid Charges on the Conaolidated Fund for the
same period.—Ordered.—Adjt.ortied.

For Lord Felkstonv's Motion
Against it -

I

LONDON.

TUESDAY, APRIL 18.

PRICE OF KFOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Comols, for money, GiLi—for May 6811,-4 per C. 67V4-.

German Papers to the 25th ult. and Swedish to
the 9th instant, have arrived. The news in the for-
mer is not very recent, nor do they furnish any on
which an opinion can be formed of the probability of
hostilities between France and Austria, or the contrary.

This morning arrived Mails from the Mediterranean,
&c. brought to Falmouth by the Lord I :obart packet,
in twenty-me days from Cadiz.
Lisbon Gazettes and Letters, the former to the
26th, the latter to the 27th ult. have arrived. The
people of Lisbon had not been informed of the cap-
ture of Oporto by the enemy. Accounts had reached
them that the French occupied a neighbouring vil.
lage, and they were supposed to be on their march
towords Lisbon. The British troops were in high
spirits, and impatient to meet the enemy.
We yesterday received letters from Gibraltar to the
17th ult.

The accounts received there from the province; of
Spain bordering on the Mediterranean state, that nu-
merous armies are organizing, and every city is pre-
paring to emulate Saragossa, in resisting the enemy
to the last extremity.
The Arragonese are represented as by no means
dispirited with the fall of their capital, which has
only served to increase their inveteracy and hatred
against the French. Every man who can find a mus-
ket is in arms against them, nor could this country
possibly render the Patriots a more essential service
than by sending at least one hundred thousand stand
of arms to be distributed in the provinces along the
coast of the Mediterranean. This would be employ-
ing the resources of the country more to the annoy-
ance of the enemy than any other measure that can
be adopted. If Spain is to be freed from (h 2 tyranny
of her enemy, it must be by the efforts of her own
population.

" GIBRALTAR,. MARCH 17.
" Yesterday arrived the HIND, and the convoy from Mslta fo,-
England ; also the PREVOVANTC,
" The Tunttes and P.BUNunscr, with the convoy from Eng-
land, arrived here three days ago, in twelve d::ys passay. The
AN) t.Lo frigate sails to-morrow with those bound to Malta.—
The SUCCESS frigate passed through yesterday from the Eastward,
under a crowd of sail, for England."

We have received Jamaica Papers to the 25th of
February, brought by the Cornwallis packet. They-
contain some congratulatory addresses in favour of
the House of Assembly, for its resistance to the Exe-
cutive Power, and several orders from the Honourable
P. REDWOOD, Chief Justice, to assimilate the forms of
proceeding in the Supreme Court of Judicature of the
Island to those established in the King's Bench in this
country. These papers also contain the details of seve-
ral partial successes obtained by the Spanish Patriots of
Hispaniola, against the French troops in that island ;
the latter have been driven into the city of Santo Do-
'
mingo. It we are to believe the accounts given in
these papers, PETION has sent 1200 troops, with am-
murlition, to the assistance of the Patriots in St. Do-
' mingo. A Spanish national schooner had arrived at
the latter place from the Havannah with money and
ammunition ; but such was the patriotism displayed
by the Spanish soldiers that they refused taking any
money; they said it was only arms they wanted, and
to be conducted to the assault of the city.

It also appears, that pending these transactions, the
country was so distressed, that Mr. PITT, the Finance
Minister, not knowing how to raise money for the
public service, did actually apply to these very Com-
missioners for assistance, which they, with an aug-
menting balance of X 190,000 in their hands, declined
to afford him, concealing their possession of such a
sum ; and refusing the country's money to supply the
wants of the country.
Fhe other point to which we shall now advert is
the immense charge made by the Commissioners upon
the sale of vessels and cargoes. This, as the Report
states, demands a farther investigattorn Perhaps it
will hardly be thought credible, that the whole of the
gross proceeds of all the vessels sold, amounting. to*
one million nine hundred and thirty-three thousrancr
pounds ; the charges upon these proceeds (no item of
which is stated) exclusive of commission, restitutions
to claimants, and grants to captors, amount to more
than one third of the money. The following is the
full statement of all the particulars

It was reported on 'Change yesterday, that the
Spaniards, encamped in La Mancha, on hearing of
the march of the Duke of Bta.i.uxo towards Badajos,
had precipitately advanced through Toledo and
Aranjuez, and had taken possession of the capital,
after an engagement with about 8000 of the ememy
who were in garrison at the ketiro. We place no
reliance on this rumour.
The three brigades of German Light Horse, which
were at 'Woodbridge, have received a route for Ports.
mouth, where they are to embark for Portugal. One
of these brigades passed through London yesterday
morning.
The troops in the Essex District have been directed
to hold themselves in readiness for foreign service.
Saturday se'nnight, as Mrs. BRYDGES, of Wooten
Court, in Kent, accompanied by a Gentleman and a
female friend, an old lady of seventy seven, were
. going from Abingdon t Farrir.gdon, the horseS took
fright and set off at full gallop, occasioned by the
imprudence of some person firing off a gun close to the
road-side, the carriage was overturned, and the old
lady had both her arms broken, and received a vio
lent contusion on her head, Mr. BuYnors the gentle-
man and female servant (who sat on the driving
seat) were also extremely hurt, and the carriage
shattered almost to pieces. No blame whatsoever is
imputed to the driver.

Tile charges were - -
Conimission charged -
Restitutions to claimants -
Grants to captors - -
Leaving a net amount of '-

From which was further to be deducted on account
of loss on ships in debt (that is, on ships, the 52,657
charges on which exceeded the proceeds)
Leaving at that time the estimated net sum of £977,269

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.

PLYMOUTH AND PLYMOUTH DOCK, APRIL 15.

It appears by a paper dated 29th April 1808, that the gross
amount of the produce of the ships and of the ships and cargoes
sold, (of which cargoes your Committee perceive, that much the
larger part was sold by the East India Company), was
£1,937,064
631,239
88,164
907,187
69,988
11;746

;G1,029,927

We have nothing to add, but that we sincerely
[agree in the suggestion of the Committee, that the
article of charges required a farther investigation.

NEWMARKET FIRST SPRING MEETING, 1800.
MONDAY, APRIL 17.
I.(i Lowther's Loiterer, 7st. llb beat Gen. Prosvenor's Wood-
well-head, 7st. sib. B.C. 50gs —Two to 1 apt Loiterer.
Mr. Shakespear's Brainworm, 71b. brat Mr. Croft's Bac-
chanal, Sst. 51b. Across the Flat, lOugs. h. ft.—Seven to 4 Lipt
Brainworm.

The Prince's Stakes of 100 gs. each, h. ft. for Colts carrying Bst. 71b.
and Fillies 86t. 41b. Arose the Flat. Rising S yrs old.
Mr. Mellish's b. c. Cock Robin . - - - - 1
Mr. Mellish's b. c. Levant, by Don Quixotte , -
Duke of Grafton's c. Doleful, by Sorcerer, out of Bounty 3
Mr. Mellish's b. c. Knavery, by Don Quixotte - .
Gen Gower's ch. c. Centipes, by Waxy, out of Tarantula 5
Five to 2 agst Cock Robin ; 5 to S agst Levant.
IA Sackville's Deceiver, 9st. 91b. beat Mr. Vansittart's Bur-
leigh, 75t.121b. Ab. M. 200 gs. h. ft.-7 to 4 agst Deceiver.
Sir J. Shelley's c. Vexation, by Waxy, out of Julia, Bst. 21b.
beat Mr. Lakes b. E by Guildford, out of a sister to Oatlands,
ist. 131 b. Two-yr old Course, 200 gs. h. ft.-2 to lon Vexation.
Duke of Grafton's Miltonia, beat 14 Foley's Weaver, Bst. 21b.
each. R.M. 50gs.—Even betting
Mr. Vansittart's f. by Whiskey, out of Regulator's dam, beat
D. of Grafton's f. by Sorcerer, out of Peppermint, Bst. 41b. each.
R.M. 100 gs. h. ft.-6 to 4on Mr. Vausii tart's filly.
Sweepstakes of 9.00g5. each, h. ft. B.C. for Colts Bst. 71b. and Fil-
lies Bst. 21b. Rising 4 yrs old. The owner of the second horse
to receive back his stake.
Sir H. Williamson's Pan, by St. George
Duke of Grafton's br. c. Vandyke
14 Grosvenor's b. c. Chester - - - - - 3
Six to .5 agst Pan ; 6 to 5 agst Vandyke.

Came in the Intelligent gun brig from Lisbon ; Martial gun-
brig from the westward ; the Kniphausen galliot Dre Goode Sack,
last from Falmouth, in ballast ; and the Hazard, Rowet, from
Fowey. Sailed the Eliza, Hodge, for Alderney ; Prince, Shaw,
for Hayti ; Danish ship Peter, Payne, for London ; and the Red-
ruth, Moyse, for Swansea, with copper ore. Also sailed the
Phccnix, of 36 guns, for Portsmouth ; Statira, of 40 guns, Que •
bec, of 36, and the Attack gun brig, on a mire.
APRIL 16.—Rear Admiral Harvey yesterday struck his Bag on
board the Toimant, and hoisted it on board the l'hiebe frigate, in
llarnpool, where he will rensain till the termination of the Court
or Courts Martial, about to be assembles].
PORTSMOUTH, APRIL 17.
Arrived his Majesty's ship Protector with a convoy from the
Downs. Sailed Isis Majesty's ships Frederick stein and bonne
Citoyenne with the expedition fur Portug.sl. I Majesty's ship
Lavinia is appointed convoy for the East Indies, and Avenger fur
the Downs. Wind N E.

HARWICH, APRIL 17.
Sailed yesterday the Prince of Wales packet, Captain Maxon,
for Gottenburgh, with nulls and passengers; and the Lady
Frances, Captain Rutter, tOr Heligoland. Arrived last night the
Atsckland packet, Captain Pridge ; and the licaufoy, Captain
Norris, with mails and passengers from Gottenburgh ; and this
morning the Lady Neiman, Captain Irving, with di,patches from
Gottenburgh—she brings 'no mail.
YARMOUTH, APRIL 17.
_ _

Arrived last eveuing his Majesty's brig Driseis from Heligo-
land, and landed a Mes.4c tiger charged with dispatches. Sailed on
Saturday, P. M. his Majesty's ship Alfred, of 7a guits, for the
N ore, and in going tip, she got on shore on Aldborough Neaps, and
knocked off her rudder, but has since got off. This morning his
Majesty's brigs Briton= mut C.:barger .ailed to her aosistancr.

was asnxious to do sc
as,
f nd from the k
case
of theho suspicio
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people, w were
finding that the moti
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cut any specific cha
could not concur in
bound to dissent Iron
would wait till either
well able as he was, c
particular charges ag
Mr. PONSONBY
cured of protecting
willingly expose abu
where delinquency, w;
stored the existence c
the state, without an)
proved of it. If th
ample of the Honour
forward the charges
Chief—if he specifica
individuals against
would have every red
for. The Honourat
luded had stated hi
stated how he mean
ground for accusatic
hound to do who mo
such thing was d
some collateral pc
aged, in order to cri
Gcvernment. He cc
left the House so mu
more averse to if fror
with whom it origin
with delinquency—(
dor them all as knav,
inclined to support a
he would take upon 1
and as positively to
that House as far ab
preferred the charge
must further say, tho
ci any of them who 1
nester men than he
disposed to go as far
as any man ; but he c
vague and general it
Ir. HUTCHINf
with a silent vote on
He would support t
and would br;efiv eta
this as a most awful
improper motives tc
lively long been of
which the Governmc
not such as ought to
titer misfortune to
thought that if it •rai
consequences might
which thc se in that
might live. Therefor
of grantino- those un:
posed Cu vest in this C
prejudice or partialit
vote for the Noble I
times, considering t
thought that the env,
ought not to be stifle
the Noble Lord was
before the Commits
and he could concei.
rational reasons for
present. Understar
not particularly aga
any other, but genet
duty to support it.
tutions of the count]
given of that venera.
which had crept int(
struction. The gre
rem of corruption a
be the design of the
ceiving it, notwithst
well calculated for t
to give it all the sup
Mr. CHARLES
understood the motif