Star.
London, England, 1802-05-06 00:00:00

• Miniffeis sad their choice, maser to find-
to Egypt or to Portugal ; the former was deemed
tae wuefi plan, and he approved their condud,
becaufe it would be unwife to feparate that force.
The Government of Portugal then applied to Mi
slitters, whetfler, if under the neceffity of cnnclud
ing a peace with France and Spain, we would con-
tent to releafe her from her engagements ; whether
we would confider it as an ad of hoftility ; and
whether we wouldfurniflt her with Any pecuniary
affiliance to enable her to conclude a treaty or.
better terms ? This was all complied with ; and
afterwards when it was apprehended that France
would take advantage of the Rate of the Nego-
ciation, to obtain a farther infringement of the
Portoguefe territory during the late negotiation,
our Ambafador was direaed to reprefent to the
French Government that nn other ceffions than
thole of Dadajos would be confidered binding,
This was done with a view to prevent Portugal
from yielding any further. What had that Power
then to complain of? Could the charge us with'
any want of good faith, or gtnerofity ?—Certainly
not. With refped to the article in the Prelimina-
ry Articles which regards the integrity of that
Power, Gentlemen would remember the difference
between that and the Article relative to thg Otto-
man Porte,a difference which at the time produce
ed fome explanations in that Houfe; for the Ar-
ticle refpeding Portugal obvionfly referred to fome
facrifices, as the words 44 before the war," were
omitted. To the firft motion of the Hon. Gen-
tleman he fbould not objell ; nor to the fecond,
if it related merely to the Treaty of Madrid, and
was fo amended ; of no other had Minifters any
knowledge, for they were no party to any of them.
To the third motion he mull objed, becaufe Mi-
/lifters bad no official eognizance whatever of any
Treaties concluded between France and Spain dur-
ing the Negotiation. The Noble Lord concluded
by taking notice of the affertions now to often
ufed by certain perfons, that the honour of the
Britilh flag was tarnifhed, and the dignity of the
Britifh charader reduced by the Peace, while the
fall was, that no Peace was ever concluded in
which the charader of the country was more
honourably Maintained, or in which our commer-
cial and maritime power flood fo high; nothing
was more likely to hurt the national fpirit, and
to degrade the national character, than fuch aft
lemons, however unfounded, when coming from
perfons of high rank. As to what effed the con-
fequences of the peace were calculated to pro-
duce upon the commerce and. importance of the
Empire, he would be ready to meet Gentlemen
on thefe topics on another day.
Dodor Lammas rote to anfwer the obterva-
tions of the Noble Lord, when he was called to
order by
Mr. Sr EAR a, who obferved that the motion be-
fore the Hoare having been affented to, any further
convoration upon the fubjea was irregular.
Mr. Gm fuggefted that the affent of a tingle
individual to a motion, ought not to be taken as
a ground for the affent of the whole Houfe; he
ramified the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was per-
fatly in order.
After a few words front the Cuenca: in of the
Ezmitqyza,
Dr. LARRIIIICI proceeded in genial terms to
argue agiinft the terms of the Definitive Treaty,
with regard to its effed upon the Refolutions be-
tween this country and Portugal ; he inferredefiat
by confenting to the ceffions on the part of Portugal
in favour of France the dignity of the Britifh flag
bad been comproinifed.
Mr. Jnwss Paid, he could not as an Englifhman
fa and hear it Rated that the glory of the Britifh
flag was tarniflied. He was extremely furry to find
.t ?arty united to condemn a peace which had faved
the country and Europe from ruin ; that party ap-
peared to him to have formed itfelf into a War
Committee ; the blaze that illuminated this City a
few evenings ago, was an ample teftimonial of the
fence of the people at a return of peace, and a proof
that every man mull deprecate the renewal of war.
The TEMPLE defended the motion of his Hon.
Friend.
Mr. THOMAS GRENVILLE (aid, that he Mould
think himfelf equally blameable with his Majef-
ty's Minifters, if he fat Rill, and did not make
fome obfervations on fome things which had fal-
len from the Noble Lord (Hawke(bury). He
hid, it was ftrange that any oppofition should be
made to the motionsmade in the prefent Rage of the
',Miners. One would think, from the debate they
had given rife to, that the attention of the Houfe
had been fatigued by repeated 'motions for
Papers- But this was firs day, and the fit fi
motion on the fubjeft ; and no fanner did a Mem-
ber prefume to alit for certain Papers, than the
motion was called fallious. (A cry of No; No;
freer the Treafilry Beneh.)—Not only were his Hon.
Friends accufed of breaking down the queftion
into a fradional debate : artifice was alto imputed
to them. Did it then require artifice to induce
the Houfe to take into confederation a Treaty in-
volving the dearell interefts of the country ? He
owned, that he withed to have this quellion con-
fidered in detail, and if he did not do fo, he Mould
look upon himfelf as betraying the interefts of his
country. At prefent, however, he Mould onlyad-
vett to one thing which fell from the Noble Lord
relative to Portugal. The Noble Lord teemed to
fay, that becaufe his Majefty's Minifters had given
Portugal leave to negotiate a feparate Treaty, with
Ripulations prejudicial to the interells of this coun-
tr7, liecaufe arcumflances prevented them from
rendering her, at that time, the affiftance requifite
to enable her to defend herfelf ; that, therefore,
this country was releafed from all obligations to
attend to the interefts of Portugal in the Treaty.
To •:iis dodrine he could not aflint. With regard
to the Papers demanded, he aid, that they were
necelfary to a full underftanding of the fubj.edt,
which, from its magnitude and complication,
could not be obtained without much previous dif-
coition.

Lord HAIMMIVILT explained, he difclaiMed
having applied the word faEtious to the Hon.
Gentleman, at !nit in the fenfe in which he had
underflood it ; he had only Paid, a mode of pro-
ceeding Co irregular as dse outadopted by the