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Hon* then mann& On the questien that the Report be now
brought up.
Lord A. TIAIIIII.TON wished to know if it was the lutes.
Lion of the Chancellor of the &chequer to introduce a chassis
this Bill for affording relief to the brewers of Scotland ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he
should postpone Ms answer rind he bad consulted with the Chair-
man of the Excise department in Scotland.
The Report was ordered to be brought up on Monday.•
SnINT POSTMASIT6R-GEI.KRAL.
Lord NORM ANSY gave nedce, that in consequence of the
manner in which the question he had the honour of submitting
to the House on Thursday was disposed of, he should bring It
forward again on the 2d of May.

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FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he should take that Op-
portunity of putting a question to a Right Honour.
able Gentleman on the other side, which involved a
case of a very important nature, as affecting the in-
dependence of the Members of that House. He al.
luded .0 a letter which had found its way into pub-
licity, which, in open allusion to three Members of
that House, as stated in the letter, 44 Lord Norrnanby,
Lord Althorp, and Mr. Creevey," contained the fol-
lowing expressions:—" The Opposition, despairing
of ever being able to get into office, have resolved
upon pursuing a system tending to undermine and
destroy the best institutions of the country, so as to
make it impossible for any Government to go on."—
This letter was signed 44 C. Arbuthnot ;" but as he
never could believe that Right Honourable Gentle-
man capable of putting on paper such expressions,
openly charging Members of that House with sedi-
tious intentions, he must consider it to be a forgery,
and was therefore anxious to give the Right Hon.
Gentleman an opportunity of contradicting it.
Mr. A lt BUTHNOT.—In consequence of what had
fnllen from the Nobjp Lord, it became necessary for
him to inform the House that the expressions just
quoted to them had been written by him. They were
contained in a letter which was entirely of a private
nature; and although he had no hesitation in avow-
ing himself to be the author of it, he could not admit
that the expressions in question would bear the con-
struction the Noble Lord had placed upon them.
;'he expressions he (Mr. Arbuthnot) contended, al.
inded to the motions of the Honourable Members,
and not to their motives ; and he begged to state, that
however he might regard the latter, he would nut be
guilty of violating the rules of that House. Con-
cerning the motions he had adverted to as having the
tendency he had stated, he had called upon the indi-
vidual to whom he wrote to watch the course of
them for the best interests of the country.
Lord NORMANBY said, that actuated as he felt
L. had been throughout by a conscientious anxiety
to discharge his public duty, he should not have
thought that any one would have dared to impute to
him dangerous intentions, for merely bringing for-
ward a motion of a nature that had twice lately re-
ceived the sanction of the Legislature (Hear, hear).
Mr. ARBUTHNOT repeated, that there was no-
thing in his letter that could fairly he construed into
an imputation upon the Noble Lord's intentions.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he hoped
that the freedom of discussion had not so far dege-
nerated in this country, that either in or out of that
ilouse they were not to be permitted to express an
e,)inion on the tendency of measures pursued by any
1-I.)n. Member whatever (Hear, hear).—lt was really
too much for the Hon. Gentlemen opposite to sup-
pose that they were to exercise a controul over-the
ooinions of Hon. Members on his side of the House.
He really hoped that they had not a serious design
of gagging them!—(Hear, hear).
Li rd NORMANBY said, he had not seen the let-
ter in question; but as it was admitted that it im-
puted to him acting on a system to undermine the
best institutions of the country, he could not under-
stand how that could be taken otherwise than as re-
flecting personally on his motives.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that it
might be perfectly true that the Noble Lord and his
friends acted on a system which he (the Marquis of
Londonderry) might think dangerous, and he might
say so without imputing that knowledge to the Noble
Lord or his friends.
Colonel DAVIES asked if the expression, 68 de-
spairing of ever getting into office," did not imply a
knowledge of the tendency of the course pursued in
consequence?
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY did not see
anything incompatible in the Hon. Gentlemen oppo-
site despairing of getting into power with their ig-
norance of the tendency of any measures they might
propose—(Hear, hear).
Mr. ARBUTHNOT remarked, that there was no-
thing extraordinary in his supposing, from a view of
the measures, that the originators of them should de-
spair of getting into office.
Lord J. RUSSELL appealed to the Chair whether
such language, if used in that House, as applied to
lion. Members on his side, would not be disorderly?
The SPEAKER said, the question of the Noble
Lord had anticipated the situation in which he had
intended to represent that the House was placed,
is engaging in a discussion relative to the privileges
of that House, upon the construction to be placed on
a letter which was not before the House. They
might see one of the inconveniences of such a course
from the situation in which a Noble Lord (Norrnanby)
was placed, who had not seen the letter. With re-
gard to the Noble Lord's question, however, if he
asked him whether a Member of that House, speak-
ing of another, should say, that, 44 despairing of get-1
ting into office, he pursued a system of measures tend-
ing to undermine the best interests of the country,"
was or was not disorderly? he must say, that the
imputation of despairing to get into office had no-
thing to di with the subsequent part of the charge.
It was disorderly, no doubt, to impute unworthy and
dangerous motives—(Hear, hear).— But whether the
imputation was directed against the measures or the
motives, it became necessary to examine the precise
terms in which the expression was delivered—
( Hear, hear).—lf it should appear that the imputa-
tion was upon the system, however erroneous it might
be, it would not be against the orders of the House;
but if directed against the persons pursuing that sys-
tem, it was distinctly and most outrageously disma
deily—(Hear, hear).—The House, however, would
not fail to observe how utterly incapable be must of
necessity be to give an opinion on the subject sub.
illitted to him by the Noble Lord, when the coutlimi
of the letter were not before the House—(Hear).
Mr. ARBUTIINOI assured the Hon. Gsntlernen
opinhite. that he wrote the letter in question as.a pri.g
letter, without ever considering whether it was
of was not against the orders of the House. So much'

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that if there was
last man to flinch consequences.
Mr. WYNN he hict,httard Mk.
surprise the ap to the Chair by the
Lord opposite. _ ied It *as the first lime th.
a question had been put to the Speaker of that House
upon a hypothetical
would be quite soon
and take up the titn,
arose—(Hear, hear).
attempt like the present
that House to the details pri,
(Hear, hear).—Was an individual not to he permitted
to express a private opinion, to which no publicity or
attempt at it was made? Such an attempt to shackle
the freedom of private intercourse had not been made
for a century past—(Hear).—lt was true, if they
looked a little further back than a century ago, they
would find that the House had disgraced itself by
exercising some such power as that now proposed in
the instance of the Popish Plot, on which occasion
those who were guilty of expressing a doubt of the
existence of it were sent to prison—(Hear,hear).
Sir R. FERGUSSON observed, that the Right
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wynn) had narrowed the ques-
tion, as though this were only a solitary case, but he
apprehended it would be found that the language
complained of was that of a Treasury Circular.
Mr. WYNN said, he had argued upon what the
Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Arbuthnot) himself
stated—that the letter was strictly private.
The Hon. GEORGE LAMB thought it was much
to be regretted that, after the handsome /explanation
of the Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Arbuthhot) and the
opinion delivered from the Chair, the Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Wynn), merely for the sake of de-
fending the privileges of the House, should have ran',
the risk of raising the whole question again. That
Right Hon. Gentleman, in his tirade against inter-
ference with private correspondence, had begged the
whole of the question ; for the very question before
the House was, whether the letter in question was
private or not?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that he had not
called the letter a breach of privilege; he said it was
a matter which nearly concerned the privileges and
interests of Parliament ; inasmuch, as in it the writer
had imputed dishonourable and unworthy motives to
Members of that House—(Hear, hear). The Right
Honourable Member (Mr. Arbuthnot) had disavowed
any such imputations, and he (Lord John Russell)
was satisfied. He had made no motion—he had no
motion to make.

Lord NORMA.NBY expressed himself satisfied with
the explanation of the Right Honourable Member
(Mr. Arbuthnot).

COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY-ARMY ESTIMATE&

The CHANCELLOR of theEXC HEQUE R moved
that the House should resolve itself into a Committee
of Supply on the Army Estimater.
The SPEAKER having left the Chair, it was moved
that a sum, not exceeding 236,3391.0..1d. be granted
for the Miscellaneous Charges fox the Forces of Great
Britain for this year.
Mr. HUME rose to object to several items in this
charge. The charge for the table kept for the Of-
ficers of the Foot and Lite Guards at St. James's 'Pa-
lace was 60001. he should propose to reduce it to
30001. It was contrary to general practice to sup-
port such a table (except in the Castle of Dublin,
where there was a charge of 10001. for that purpose),
besides, the extravagance with which the table at St.
James's Palace was supported, would injure the
Army, and lead the Officers into profuse and extra-
vagant habits. The next item was the Riding-house
at Pimlico, which cost the country 38001. a-year.—
This was an expense incurred since the conclusion of
the war, and as there were riding-masters to all the
troops (paid at a sum of 281. per troop), he should
propose that the Riding-house at Pimlico be abo-
lished. He should also move a reduction of the sum
of 60/. charged for inspecting regimental colours.—
There was also a charge of 501. for an inspector of
regimental great coats; but the Noble Lord said,
that last year no more than 151. was expended. If so,
let the surplus of last year's grant be made use of this
year, there was no need of a new grant. The office
of Chaplain-General ought also to be reduced. In
the Barrack department, also, large savings might be,
made. The Barracks at Gosport and the Isle of Wight
might be occupied, and those at Maidstone given up.
Out of the charge of 60001. for Barracks, 40001. might
be saved without detriment to the country. There
was also a charge of 60,0001. or 70,0001. for Recruit-
ing Establishments : on this sum he should propose
a reduction of 85001. Besides, he understood that the
India Company were to pay 23,0001. of this charge.
' The Hon. Member concluded by moving, that the
proposed grant should be reduced to 211,4001.
Sir CHARLES BURRELL said, that an Ensign
in the Guards, holding the rank of a Lieutenant in
the Line, had but 801. a-year ; a Lieutenant in the
Guards, holding the rank of Captain, had 1001. for
his Commission he paid 1,5001. if he purchased an
annuity with that sum, it would produce more than
the amount of his pay. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Hume) had said, that at the table at St. James's ex-
pensive suppers were had, and costly luxuries; so far
from this being the case, the regulation of that table
was under the Inspection of the Commanding Officer;
the room was closed at eleven o'clock ; and, far from
having large quantities of wine, he believed the Offi-
cers were kept at short commons ! (A laugh).--Subal-
terns in the Guards, after 16 or 17 years service, had
barely as much as pirchased regimentals ; it was a
little too much to deprive them of the advantages of
a table, moderately and properly conducted. With
respect CO the rest of the Hon. Member's objections,
he thought that the present force of the Army was
necessary ; and as money was necessary to the main-
tenance of that forte, he would vote for the grant
required—(Hear).
Sir HENRY HARDINGE Said, that the observa-
tions of the Hon. Member (Mr. flume), made the
other evening, were not fairly made. The Hon. Mem-
ber's statement was foended on the expense of the
eaablishment for 1817, which then stood at 11,0001.
but though the estimates for the present year were be-
fore him, which chewed that the exitense of the table
at St. James's.amounted oaly to 60001. a year, he ar-

go ciosin to that Mute with unfounded' complaints
against the Horse Guards. He protested agtinst the
system of throwing imputations upon the Army• for,
the purpose of throwing disgrace upon •adminis-1
tration. Such observationslytainly were not borne
,out by facts--(Hear, hear);
Mr. BERNAL said, that it could not be supposed
that his Honourable Friend'could be well inforthed
on every point; but certainty the country was mush
indebted to his labours. He could not go kith his
Honourable Friend with respect to the particular item
under the consideration of the House:. There were
seven battalions and *tie regiments of Foot ; every
battalion had an alince for wine of 2501. a year,
which made 17501. There were four regiments of
Guards out of barracks ; the Officers Lid to pay tin-
their lodging, which, at 11. per week, at sixty-four
Subalterns, would, with the wine allowance, amount
to 6,0001.
Colonel TRENCH said, that in 1792, there were
but five Officers, and the expense amounted to 5,6001.
In 1822, there were thirteen Officers, and the expense
amounted but to 6,0001.
Mr. BENAT said, that he was sure it was not
the intention of his Honourable Friend (Mr. Hume)
to breathe an aspersion against any part of the Army.
He (Mr. Bennet) agreed with his Honourable Friend
in thinking that 6.0004 a year was too much for the
support of a table for thirteen Officers, and should,
therefore, support the amendment.
Colonel DAVIES said, that having already spoken
on this subject, he would merely put a simple pro-
position: he would ask the Honourable Gentleman
opposite, whether, in 1822, when the Army stool at
68,000, the estimates should stand at 19,0001. more
than in the year 1819, when the Army amounted to
86,000 men? The Honourable and gallant Officer
moved, as an amendment to the amendment of Mr.
Hume, that a sum of 217,3391. alone be allowed.
General GASCOYNE defended the establishment
at St. James's, which, he contended, was not expensive
nor ill-regulated. Of the conduct of the Guards he
could not speak in terms of approbation sufficiently
strong. He had spent some of the happy years of
his life amongst them. In private life there were no
men better conducted, in the field no soldiers more
brave, few so brave; and he might appeal, not to that
House, but to the country at large, for their temper,
patience, and forbearance, in quelling the various
riots of the Metropolis.
Sir H. VIVIAN said, that under the, old system,
recruits were sent to head-quarters, and generally
one out of twelve was rejected : if they returned in
that respect to the old system, they would only re-
turn to an old abuse.
Mr. C. fiUTCHINSON said, the active exertions
of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) were of great service
to the country; and he verily believed, had given to
men in public offices ideas of doing business which
they had not before. He should be sorry to see any
imputation cast upon the Life Guards, whose conduct,
on almost every occasion, deserved public prai•se.
Mr. WILSON said, the mind of the House seemed
to be pretty well set at rest on every point except
the last, the expense of recruiting. Either the Noble
Lord must have been very defective in his statement,
or the vote was in itself improper. If the expense of
a service was to be supplied out of the Extraordi-
naries, there was no use in voting specific sums, as
by the additions made to them, everything was re-
duced to uncertainty—(Hear, hear).
Lord PALMERSTON said, the calculation of the
expense of the various services was made on the best
consideration, but it was impossible that the exact
amount of it could always be foreseen. The only
course then that remained was, to make up the esti-
mated to the actual expenditure out of the Extraor-
dinaries, which at the end of the year were submitted
to Parliament.

Mr. HUME said, the remarks'that he had applied
on.the table kept for the Guards, were borrowed from
the Commissioners of Military Inquiry. His object
was to condemn the system, and not to censure indi-
viduals. The Commissioners of Inquiry had recom-
mended that a suitable allowance should be made to
the Officers, who should be then left to provide for
themselves. The Member for Liverpool (General
Gascoyne) had said that the pay of the Officers of
the Guards was not more than enough to buy them
their clothes. But this was one of the very evils of
the system, that from the constant changes no one
knew when he had a coat made one month, whether
he could wear it the next. It was quite preposterous,
too, that subalterns; with so little pay, should have so
sumptuous a table kept for them. He did not wish to
put the Guards on a worse footing than other corps,
but to give them a reasonable allowance in the way
recommended by the Board of Inquiry. As to the
Riding Establishment, if such a device were necessary
to make an uniformity of discipline in the cavalry, it
was necessary in the infantry. He would leave the
subject willingly to a Jury of Cavalry Officers.
Colonel DALRYMPLE said, that the Hon. Gen-
tleman had forgotten the material article in cavalry,
a horse. In the infantry, marching only was to be
taught; in the cavalry, riding also.
Mr. HUME said the questaidwas, why extraordi-
nary means should 'be used to create uniformity in
one line and not in the other ? He 'understood that
horses were more easily to be taught than men.
Both the Athendinents were negatived, and the ori-
ginal motion agreed to. -
The sum of £84,445, the Irish properties et these expenses,
was also voted. e• -. . - . , •
Lord PALMERSTON, in proposing the vote for the Staff,
observed, that we Major-General had been reduced in Guernsey,
and two in the Colonies; considerable reductions had also been
made in the Medical Department. It was also intended mistake
some further reduetiont.
Colonel DAVIES drop., that though coaddrable Nue-

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Chaplains to the Foreskin** an expense of ..11,17e
He Chaplains
never been able to had what tbiehaplaki-eleneral did.
In the Colonies be saw a great field for reduction. In Canada
• ere were four Quartermasters-General, two Aides-de-Camp,
and two Secretaries (a Secretary and an Assistant). Two lof the
Quartermasters, one Secretary, and one Able-de-Camp, might
be reduced. In Jamaica, Gibraltar, and the Cape of Good Elope,
there were the same establishments all in duplicate, which admit-
tani of the eame reduction. The House had voted £153,000
rot the &at last year; end itllll.lo this, when,
in 1791, the
whole business was done for £24,000. Was thisto be borne?
zultid to reduce the vote by £ll,lOO, the amount of the.
'bad commented on.
Lord PALMERSTON said that in 1791 there bad been six
Aides-de-Camp to the King, as there were now. The expense.
of the Staff at home was in that -*air above 14,0001. when by
the accounts- it should appear only I,OOOL The Noble Lord
contended in favdur of the utility of the Chaplain-General's esta-
blishment, and the inspectors of Army Clothing.
Colonel TRENCH said, there were the same number of Mi-
nn employed in the Quartermaster-General's department in
1791 es sow, but they b re different dike.
Mr. HUME observed, that though the expense of the Star tee
1792 was Increased, by the addition of contingencies, yet if the
Extraordinaries, *Melt in the last year were 11,18 IL were added
to the account, the tionparison would not be more favourable to
the present period.
After an explanktion between Lord Paxmasno.
Huse,
Mr. ELLICE complained of the salaries given to Dineen is
the Colonies being too large. It did not appear to him that the
duties they performed entitled them to the temuneraden they
received. The Don. Member then adverted to the expenditure
in the Leeward Islands and Demerara, observing that there were
many abuses connected with it, which ought to be corrected.
The several Colonies, particularly in the West Indies, paid their
fair quota towards defraying the expense of keeping them up,
but the money was not properly applied. A great deal was
talked of with respect to the distress that existed in England ;
but be denied that it was at all equal to that which now pre-
vailed in the West India Islands.

and Mr.

Sir R. FERGUSSON was perfectly disposed to support the
old Colonies of England. If the four and a half per cent. duty
was applied to its proper use, it would amply defray the expense
'of the Colonies. The Governor of the Cape had a situation
equal to 2.5,0001. The funds of the Colony were absorbed by
useless places given to the frieuds of Ministers.
Mr. GOULBURN had formerly proved that many of the
statements of the gallant General were unfounded. Ten thou—
sand pounds at the Cape, which was the salary of the Governor,.
would not go further there than here. The military expense of
the Colonies was amply repaid to the mother country. On any
future occasion be should be happy to fight over the battles he
had fought before.
Mr. ELLICE explained. The abuse of the four and a half
per cent. duty had been long established bef.in. .he present Mi-
nisters came into power. There were persons this country
I that drew from Demerara to the amount of from eight to ten
thousand pounds a year.
Mr. GOULBURN explained. There was only one sineeure
now in Demerara.
Sir R. FERGUSSON defended the statement relative to the
Governor of the Cape. Five thousand pounds, exclusive of the
perquidtes,:was quite a sufficient salary for the Governor.
Mr. BENNE!' said, that the Home Star, which had cost
£7OOO in the year 1742, new cost £34,000. Between 1803 and
1816, the expense of Canada had increased from £6OOO to
£16,000 ; though at the former period Bonaparte had been alive.
From 1802 the expense of the West India Islands hzd increased
one-third. . _ _

Lord PA LMERSTON replied. In the Colonies there veas
an increase of £ll,OOO above I 792 ; but, deducting the diminished
charge of the Militi.t, the real increase was only £7500.
Mr. HUME said, that on account of the number of new faces
which he saw in the House, who were not present when he went
through his former statement, he would now restate the princi.
pal topics and arguments on which his proposition was grounded,
which he accordingly did.—The House then divided, and due
numbers were t •

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On the re-admission of strangers to the gallery,
Mr. MABERLY was found resommending his Hoe. Riau!
(Mr. Hume) to abandon the useless task of 'disputing the Esti-
mates, it-m by item, since all his exertions were rendered un•
availing by the overwhelming majorities of his Majesty's 3linb-
.ters. He entreated his Honourable Friend not to exhaust his
own strength and that of his friends? night after night, but to
propose at once a reduction of taxation to the amount which be
judged fair and reasonable, and then to leave the country to de-
cide between him and his Majesty's Ministers.

STATE OF IRELAND.

The next Resolution was for a sum of .022,016. for defray:.
ing the charges of the Staff in Ireland.
Mr. W. SMITH trusted the Hon. Member for Aberdeen
would persevere in a course, in which he had already succeeded
to an extent which must have exceeded every man's expectations.
Mr. HUME expressed his determination to persevere, n*
withstanding the discouraging opposition he had to encounter.
The lion. ROBERT SMITH had beard a report that so
Dhutrious Personage (Prince Leopold) had requested Ministers
to submit to the Crown a request that his income should be put
wpm an equality with those of the other Royal Dukes.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY had received no such
communication the report, indeed, was quite a novelty to hills.

COMMANDER-IN-CHU/YE OFFICE.

A sum of 14,5121. being proposed for the Office and Staff di
the Commander-In-Chick

Mr. HUPdE expressed' his hope of considerable reduction
upon that sum. He should propose to reduce the salary of the
Commander-in-Chief, which had been raised since the peace,
from 91. 9s. to 161. 16s. per day. He did not think that the busi.
nets of the office could require a Military Secretary at !,0001.
a-year, an Assistant Secretary at 6001. and a Private Secretary
at 5651. He also doubted how far a Chaplain was necessary.
The Hon. Member then stated that the whole of his proposed
reduction would give 5,6.551. and moved, as an amendment, that
10,8551. should be the sum voted.
Lord PALMERSTON said, the pay of the Commander-hi-
Chief was the military pay attached by regulation to his rank in
the army as a Field-Marshal. With regard to the official esta-
blishment of the Commander-in-Chief, there was not a more

important branch of the public service than that which was dis
charged by his Secretaries, and he was pttsuaded that this depart-
ment would be crippled and rendered inefficient if the Amend,
ment proposed by the Hon. Member were acceded to.
Mr. HUME begged to ask the Noble Lord, when the rate of
a Field-Marshal's pay was given to the Commander-in-Chief?
Lord PALMERSTON replied, that it was first granted to
,his Royal Highness in the course of the year lsl3.
Mr. HUME contended, that the Increase of allowance to the
Commander-in-Chief, front nine guineas to 16 &Limas a day, had
nothing to do with bis rank as Field Marshal, 'ince It had not
taken place, upon the Noble Lord's own 'hewing, till 1813.
The Marquis of LON DON DER KY said, there was perhaps
on individual in the country who possessed more entirely the
public confidence, than his Royal Highness the Commander.-in-
Chief. Did the lion. Member wish to degrade tbr Commatl-
deransChlef, by putting him on a sort of half-pay, as if be had,
inaufficiently discharged the duties of his important office ? Why
did the Huu. Member for Abingdon wish the Hon. Member for
gassecksall to cam down with a lumping vote instead of going
into detail 7 He did it because the lion. Member's details would
not bear examinatiou--becatue be saw .blm sifts on with one
Mmes. after another, night after night. The Hon. 3fetnber. for

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• . nsws. was anything improper in it, he was the pay-ht die Until& taken place, it WaX objected to tie. dirre wet Itliatikw with only
shoot litf Mo n
flinch from the consequences. the ' have the advantage of the table tit bard PS. bilaingrQN said, that et An ewe Antlitoot ginelL
JN said, that he hick beard with great &.4amiseti'a*. ;Oa,
•ab . . , that, for the . termastew'rlumirallifff .711n1,0t. load. one hnhvetor4er,n; til
- Imi reamed. . -...1., appeal made to the Chair by the Vale cause, they um/ 'nog
te.. He believed it *as. the first time that or for loagi_ngs.. .111Wireivai el°. difference ininvcies°inti i • . • 1:1 tnuebli"rerg.redttedonalililithlesk illeiligiriEllstivigitt792 svet°lWekhoriZetit4l4. Hib+
ad been put to the Speaker of that House of the Guk•thrif otoMpired with. the SubalteViii hi boa Asststasoad az inallyrisit.atq, taa gawwislitei.
ithetical case. He really thought that it Line amoutikni to 14,0001.—the one being 'BOOOOE rtbrefll:l7a. tilittni:b3" ibe "I°lll.elasesall:twegillielkt
Cite soon enough to trouble the Speaker the other. 18,0001, so that. even deducting the 00001. wow.. of Clothing ?- He also °Waved sta . . - ...fa/
) the time of ,the House when the case for the table at St. James's,.there was a saving to the the King. He wished to know why the ,Okapielwdeinfrid
r, hear). But he mug protest against an public of 60001.—(Hear, hear). He thought; then; *add tot be reduced' to 1796 this establishment had Wont.
the present to extend the privileges of it was a little too much for the lion..Genileinan to ;I,!ttlez.l.r.see.„,.___e nines a-day, er inn alear• for dui ‘t
au carman now moo a-year, an &Meant, and dim :o the details of private communication— go down to that Home with unfOtinded- complaints -1.11-`:!.!_'. - - •..