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aetermiaed to give it np to France? does not
deny that it is an objea of the greateft importance
to this Country; but he fays the Expedition would
have been unneceffary if we had agreed to the
Convention of El Arifch. Sir, this fubjed hds been
&feuded more than once—[liere Mr. Jones ialed
out, Hear aim! Hear him!]—Sir, I beg leave to
allure that Hon. Gentleman, that I will never in-
terrupt any of his Speeches with Ilear him ! /7.-ar
him! nor, if I can avoid it, will I undergo the
mortification of hearing any of his declamations
upon this fishier% Sir, the quellion which his Ma-
jelly's late Minifters had to confider at the period
to which the Hon. Gentleman alludes, was, whe-
ther it would be wife in us to have permitted fo
many of the chofen and veteran troops of France
to have been landed in Italy, at a moment when
the fate of the Campaign, of Europe, of every minor
State, and efpecially of Portugal, was at flake? If
any rational man at that moment had been anted,
whether the fecurity of Portugal was molt likely
to be maintained by keeping there veteran Forces
in Egypt or by fuffering them to land in Italy ? it
is impoffible to entertain a doubt with relped to
his anions-. The Battle of Marengo was decided
againft the Caufe of Europe and the World ; but
let it be recolleded, that that battle was nearly
gained, and that Caufe which was fo nearly ba-
lanced without the French army from Egypt,
would have been rendered defperate had they ar-
rived : therefore, I fay, that the meafure which he
- wi(hes to conned with the (late of Portugal for
the purpofe of crimitiating us, is, as far as it is con-
neded with it, a proof orthe good policy by which
our condua was governed. We never did ceafc
in any one period of this arduous conteft to give
to our allies that of llonce and encouragement,
which afforded them the belt chance of Paving
thernfelves and of affording fecurity to Europe.—
We pollponed the confideration of Egypt, though
an objea of great importance to es, as long as
there was any chance of fliccefs in the General
Cattle ; but when the Auftrians were defeated,
though we lamented their reveries, we-did not ne
Eleft our own interefts, and the expedition to
gypt took place. Of thofe who have fought and
fallen, of thofe who have fought and conquered i
in that expedition, I will fay nothing, becaufe all
language is inadequate to- their merits. But the
Ho'n. Gentleman thinks this propofal comes too
late, and is too fmall for the purpofe of affording
effedual relief to Portugal. If that is really his
opitficiii, he might cenfure Minifters for not bring-
ing it forward fooner, but he ought, if he was eon-
fiffent with himTetf, to endeavour to accelerate that
which he thinks too tardy, and to increafe that
which he thinks too fmall, inftead of oppofing it
altogether. The Hon. Gentleman thinks this fum
,is advanced to Portugal to induce her, againft her
udgment, to continue the conteft—This language
has (seen ufed upon *other oecafions ; but I think
the explanation given by my Noble Friend,com-
letely precludes the obfervation in the prefent in-
!lance.. We do not define Portugal to brave clan-
ser : but we fay, if for their own fakes they think
It more wife, more manly, more dignified, and
more Cafe to meet the danger rather than to agree
to unknown conceffion, indignity, and infult, then
. Great Britain will be true to her engagements;
and though we -abfolve them from their promife
to us, we will not make that abfolution a mak for
our avarice or our pufilanimity, as long as they
have spirit and courage enough (which no fub-
Ady could give them) not to compromife with an
oppreffing and perfidious enemy."
• Mr. GREY, in reply, faid—At a moment
when dangers furrounded the country on every
Ade, when even the Noble Lord who had brought
forward the motion himfelf admitted the ex-
iftence of there dangers, he could not as an Eng-
lifhtrian and fill more as a Reprefentative of
Engliflnen, fail to take a retrofpedive view of the
meafures of the late Adminiftration. Nor did the
Right Honourable Gentleman who hail fpoken
lay, if any judgment could be formed from his
tone, Item indifpo(ed to enter on this retrofpe&ive
examination. He had even chofen to accufe thofe
on the other fide of the Houfe, of withholding
charges agairtft their public condud. So far, con-
tinued Mr. Grey, am I from wifhing to draw a
veil over the meafures of his Majefty's late Mini-
iters, that I indulge a hope that a day of retribu-
tion will yet arrive, a time will come when they
!hall have to anfwer for their mikondua to their
injured and offended country. I am ready to enu-
merate on my part many inftances where I have
arraigned their conduft. The renewal of fuch
charges mull depend in a great meafure on the
chance of fuccefs, and the difpolition of the Houfe
to give their fuppoit to fuels motions for inquiry.
I refer the. Right Honourable Gentleman to the
Journals of Parliament for the charges I have
already made, and perhaps I may fubmit future
charges to the Houfe. It is in the mean time
fomewhat furprifing that, at the time the Right
Honourable Gentleman rebukes us for introducing
this topic into a collateral debate, and expreffes
his refolution not to enter upon it cow, he in fart
occupies the greater part of his fpeech with a de-
tailed anfwer to Tome remarks only incidentally
introduced. He has endeavoured to vindicate the
condo& of Minifters with regard to the violation
of the treaty of El Arifch, and in doing Co he has
done little mote than repeat what he has often for-
aberly urged. Nothing is fo important, Sir, in
parliamentary difeuffion' as an accurate recollec-
tion of dates. Let us look, then, a little, to the
dates on the prefent occafion. The Right Honour.
able Gentleman tells us, that Minitlers were ex-
tremely anxious to keep the veteran army of
Egypt from being joined to the French forces in
Europe ; and to prove the importance of this ob-
3ea. he -has direfted our attention to the chance,
which decided the battle of Marengo.—When,
Sir, I fhould like to know, were the orders Cent
out to Lord Keith, which left Min no alternative
telhoftiog the evacuation of Egypt, and which pe-
remptorily refuted an acceptance of any conven-
tion for that purpofe ? Thefe orders, Sir, were
rent ont on the 28th of Deeembei 5799. What
was the language, and what was the conchs& of
Minifters on that occalion ? Bonaparte was then
but newly inftalled in his office, and loon after his
propofals for peace were reeeived, and ao loner

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were they received than they Were contempthoutly
rejefted. Did Minilters tell us Dien that the French
were in poffellion of a great army, and that the
chance of victory during the next campaign de-
pended as it wire on the call of the die ? Did
they not, Sir, on the contrary, tell us they were
Imnlcrupts refour-es and in power—that their
armies were annihilated, and that fo confident
were they of fuccefs, that he who dared to doubt
this, was liable to be loaded with the foul charge
jacohinitra Bu what was in particular then-
account of the army of F, t, who „are now de-
fcribed as the heft troops olYrsizice, the return of
whom would'have decided at once what was for-
nterly doubtful; who had reached the utmost de-
gree of perfeetion and difcipline of which foldiers
are capable ? They were deferibed as men de-
ftitute of every comfort and every refource ;
worn down by the difcafes of an unhealthy cli-
mate, and difguiled at an expedition fo fatal
in its effedts, fighing for their native land.—
They were, Sir, in a word, reprefented to be in
that fituation as that we had only occafion to hold
out our hands to receive their fubmiftion, and thefe
very men, after two years ferrite, are fpoken of as
the belt of all the French troops, whole arrival
would have done much to decide the fate of Eu-
rope. So much, Sir, for the continency of his
Majelly's late Minifters ! But the Right Honour-
able Gentleman accufes me of being a doubting
and a hefitating politician. I confefs my preten-
4ons to the charafter of a politician are very mo-
&crate, but I think if the Right Hon. Gentleman
had given himfelf the trouble to attend to my for-
mer argument he would have found nothing in the
prefent cafe to fuggeft his obfervations. I Armed
Sir, that the belt means of defending Portugal wa,
not by any fubfidies, but by a well difeiplined
Britifh army, and I Rated that by the employment
of a Britith force in Egypt we were deprived of
the only means of giving effeftual fupport to our
Ally. This is the argument I employed, and it
well confidered it will be found to have more.
weight than the Right Hon. Gentleman was wil-
ling to affign to it. As to the importance of Egypt
to this country I (hall at prefent fay nothing, as i.
is not neceffary to the fupport or elucidation o.
my argument. The Right Hon. Gentleman has
-taken great credit to himfelf for defending th
country. I deny that h_ has prefervcd any thirq
to us by the prefent war, but I will atTert he ha
left every thiag in danger. He has confumed ou,
refources, diminithed our comforts, impaired out
enjoyment?, and after nine years of conteft left u
expofed to all the dangers which threatened us at
its commencement. I heft dangers are increafed,
and they have increafed as the power of France
has been augmented.—Mr. GREY went on to the
confideratton of feveral other topics, after which he
concluded by again exprelling his decided diffent
from the motion.
Mr. PITT in explanation denied that Minifters ,
had ever maintained that in thelaft campaign there
was no doubt of fuccefs, hitt contended that they
merely aliened that calculating the chances of fue-
-1 cefs, great hopes might be entertained. In reply
to what had been faid of the charafter of the French
ark), in Egypt, he maintained that thefe repre-
fentations had not their origin from Government,
but from individuals composing that army.
Mr. Jowls profeffed his unwillingnefs after the
very able difcuffion of an Hon. Member, ( Mr. Grey
to enter on the confideration of the treaty of EI-
Arifch. A Right Hon. Gentleman had chofen to
call what he had formerly raid on this fubjed de-
clamation, but he had the confolation to know
that it had found its way through Europe as
truth. If he judged this the proper time to go in-
to the difcriffion, lie would, unlefs the Right Hon.
Gentleman chofe to walk out of the Houfe, once
more give him the mortification to hear fuch decla-
mation, and rip up the whole of this horrid bufinels.
Leaving this, however, for the prefent, he (hould
content himfelf with refining fo unfeafonable a
Motion. If the money were voted, be believed it
would jun tome in time to pay the French army.
—He concluded by begging the Chancellor of the
Exchequer by every tie of humanity—by the -Gholl
of the General who has fallen—by the Manes of
the noble Army of Martyrs in Egypt, not to per-
fill in the Motion.
The Motion was then put, and agreed to with-
out a divifion. The Houfe was retuned, and the
Report ordered for to-morroVro•-kAdjourned.

LONDON.

TUESDAY, MAY rO.

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The Hamburgh Mail, due on Sunday lall, ar-
rived this morning. The contents, though they do
not admit of any kind of analjfis, will be found of
fome•importance. We fubjoin them.
Constawrimort.s, Aram 12.—At the landing
of the Englith in Egypt, Commodore Sir &DNS?
SM►TN was the firit who landed amid a (bower of
balls. The Captain Pacha has landed troops at
Damietta, and taken poffelEon of that town.

• The army with which the Grand Vizier is ad-
vancing, is Paid to amount to 40,000 men, but
many of them are raw nndifciplined troops.
Several tranfports have arrived at Rhodes and
Cyprus with wounded and fick Engliih foldiers.
FROMTIITS OF RUSSIA, MAT 2.—The account
of the battle near Copenhagen, oa the ad of April,
canted a great fenfation at St. Peterlburgh. The
War-Governor Count Von Dll Panama, immedi-
ately refolved to repair to Revel, to haflen the
failing of the fleet Rationed there, of la (hips of
the line and three frigates, and to take proper
nseafures for the defence of the harbour and the
coati. It is well known that client:rause* hue
fine altered.

STATE PAPIDUk

♦IMi-ADMIRAL CRONSTRDT TO ADMIRAL PARKER.
Cartfcrona, April 2.5., aot.

Having by order of my King anfwercd the
queflion you propofed to me on the 18th inflant, in
the open and artlefs manner becoming a Swede, who'
(peaks in a juR cattle ; I likewife hope and expe&
that your Excellency will not he fitate to give an ex-
plicit anfwer to the queftion which I alfo have the
honour herewith to propofe, on the part of my
King. The fleet of his Britannic Majefly, under
your command, having quitted the neighbourhood
of Carlfcrona, after the receipt of my letter above-
mentioned, and according to a report from his
Majefty's Governor-General in Scandinavia, foon
afterwards pallid Salfterbo Ref, probably with an
intention of returning through Drogden, your
Excellency will permit me to requeft an anfwer
to the following queftions Whether the King,
by this flcp, is to cape& a more moderate line of
condua towards the unarmed merchant-[hips of
his own fubjeas, and thofe of his allies ? a. Whe-
ther the communication between different parts of
his realms, as well as between the Baltic and the
NVeftern coaft of Sweden, are to be confidered as
blockaded dr not ?'—The King, my mater, is of
opinion, that -the arrival of fome Ups from Pome.
rania for Carlfcrona; without being flopped by the
(hips from the Englifh fleet, cruifing in thefe leas,
furnifit an opportunity for afking thefe queflions.
He has, therefore, commanded me, to requeft of
your Excellency a poGtive anfwer to thole points,
by which my further condo& will be regulated.
(Signed) aC. 0. CRONSTEDT,
" Adjutant-General to the King, acting for the Fleets, and
appointed Commander in Chief at Carlfcrona."