Star.
London, England, 1814-11-12 00:00:00

partictiar attention, to •thii:,Suect, and would also
direct -its inquirlei to the method of auditing accounts
in the Penal ss4 ; for be had personal season to know
that ennsidet4ke abases, prevailed in the commissa-
riat. 'The settlement with the Court of Spain de-
manded investigation—it appeared that this country
was paying large sums to Spain. when in fact (to
say nothing pf the ingratitude of the Spanish Govern-
ment) it was known that a large debt was owing from
Spain to this county y. He wished to know whether
the sinus paid were really part of a debt due to Spain,
or were part of a new subsidy given under the pre-
tense of an existing debt?
The CHANCELLOR of the 'EXCHEQUER
answered, that as to the abuses in the Commissariat,
Cle.Government would have been obliged to him if
he had communicated to them what he knew on the
subject. As to the debt due to Spain, he was at a
loss to know what the Hon. Gentleman could mean.
In fact, Spain owed a very large debt to this coun-
try; yet as the Spanish army serving under Lord
Wellington was in British pay, it was necessary to
pry, to. them the arrears which were due to them.
Mr. BARING said he had not pretended to pm-
sesi any very important information as to the Com-
inissariati but what he had he should mention in pro-
per time. As to any communication with the 'Flea-
sery, he could state a reason why he had not pre-
' . fitted that mode : a friend of his, a practical man,
and wellanformed on the subject, had, in the time of
Mi. Perceval, made a communication of some abuses ;
tio,notice was taken of the matter till a long time
afterWardi, when the Commissary came from Spain,
and his (Mr. Baring's) friend was informed, that if he
had any charges to make, he had now an opportunity.
Mr. HUSKISSON did not recollect any inform-
tionlef,the kind mentioned by the Hon. Gentleman
having been communicated to the Treasury depart-
ments. • As to the present subject, the fact was, that
' the.SPanikb :troops had been raised and served under
'the 'faith of a subsidy from this country to support
theta: at the time of the peace arrears were due to
them, Or rather to the different contractors who had
lupplictrihem with necessaries, and it would have
beiiiiiiirtist to have called upon the Spanish Govern
-
anent, embarrassed as it was at the time, to make
good the engagements which had been made with
the EWA Governafent. ,
Mr. WHITtift.EAD allowed the force of that ob-
.lltivat.lhn, but at the same time insisted that it should
tleirli •be explained whether the sums which had
tetfi.4)aid W the Spanish Government since the peace
bad_re fact been applied to these purposes, or had
been used for the despotic objects which Ferdinand
had pursued towards his subjects ? It was not enough
4 hisythat a sum for a particular purpose had been
joilchci the King of Spain 3 it should be shewn • that
I had been properly applied. He congratulated the
House On the accession which the Chancellor of the
Exchequer had received in the person of the Honour-
able Gentleman : he now hoped that those plans of
ecoorny. and crucial in Finance which had so long
Seen the favoUrite theme of the Honourable Gentle.
Man would be put hi execution, and that the country
would re.ip, thx adramage of his vigilance, both
hi plobing old .ertitrirds, and in administering fresh
strength.
Tbe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
Would ley merely one word as to the mode of the
Riytnenu to Spain.—They had usually been made
On olkith * niediusiq if the Spanish Government, who
114 then' itaiiifeirrS4 Iberia to the direction of the
Tyke oovouiagoo 1 .since the peace, the Ambassa-
dor, Sir H. Wadley, had been the organ of these
rtflelti. Oil the subject of the assistance of his
Ott. Friend, he ,Viax as.
_iieacty to Congratulate the
tA
Hose as the HO0.: goappai ; he was fully aware
Pi& ialite of hii iietit4.- ..
' Mr. BARING and Mr. TIERNEY pressed to
' know what sumo hid beesi *Dished for die Spanish
army ? a-,•• - .
The CHANCELLOK or t.:the EXCHEQUER
said, that there. had been an agreement by which about
two millions yearly were furnished.
Mr. WHITBREAD supposed that this had not
been .merely a verbal agreement : and if a written
opt, why was it not produced ? It would appear that'
an agreement had been made with the late Regency
of Spain, under which money had been supplied to
' the present King of Spain, to eaable him to persecute
that. Very Regency. •
Mr. W. FOr•E rose to set the Hon. Gentleman
tight% (Mr. Writtbread here made some s; mptoms
a tieing.) He hoped the Hon. Gentleman would
bear him t it was his first time of addressing the
Douse, and the House had, at least, listened twenty
times already to the Hon. Gentleman. The facts
of
the case were these—at the conclusion of the war it
had been determined that a certain sum should be
supplied to enable the troops to return to their respec-
tive countries. Spain, among the rest, was to be fur-
nished win, a sum for the use of her troops on their
return, and till their dispersion. Sir Henry Wel-
Tolley made the arrangement With the Spanish Go-
vernment as to the amount ; and our Government,
thinking the arrangement advantageous, had agreed
to it. Ferdinand had returned some time before this:
but he did not see how the sum so furnished could be'
applied for those despotic purposes which he was not
more than the Hon. Gentleman disposed to admire.
Mr. WHITBREAD professed himself very happy
to hear again the well•modulated voice of the Right
Hon. Gentleman, but thought that no extraordinary
regret was due to his silence, as without doubt he
would make large amends by frequent speaking in
future : a very few days would clear all his arrears
in talking (a laugh.) got as to the document, for it
now appeared that some document existed, he wished
to ask why it was not produced ?
Mr. W. POLE said that certainly there was a do-
cument, but whether it could be produced was ano-
ther thing. For hilt own part he had so long been
witness to the troublesome questions which the Ho-
nourable Gentleman, for the last 20 years, had been
So fond of putting, that he should recommend to hi;
colleagues not to answer a question till they bad taken
a day to deliberate.
Mr. WHITBREAD.—I shall ever ccntinue to
a.k such questions as I think my duty imposes upon
me; nor is it very probable, that a habit of 20 years
will be corrected by any thing which the Right Ho.
nenrabh-s:ntlettein can advance. How far that
iAvitit Gentleman may prevail upon his col-
4a6nes,c,, induce them to aileocei I cannot tell; but
I itiPP94. that Ili chargellor of the Exchequer will,
l' a. RiteC t 941111),, (-
it 005., o.4tz, -0?-,4,, - Hem to answer
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