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great crifis. If all the eonfiderable mealy the country
not fee the neceffity of union, the public ought to
ke them feel this. needay. If an Adminiflration
onpofed of all the talent and independence of the
untry were not formed, he much dreaded that the
untry would never honourably weather the florm
tich affiiled it. Mr. Fox next explained his views of
fort of conneei• al we ought to form with the Conti-
nal Powers, particularly with Rollie, whore friend-
tp we ought by every means in our power to culti-
lte. He tirongly recommended a propofition for
Ice to be dircutird at a general Congrefs of the
ding Continental Powers. If this were refufed by
ince, we fhould at leaf! have the advantage of the
r of Europe ir. favour of the moderatioinof our
rws, and the jullice ( f our cattle. He enforced, as
ae. belt means of relloring Europe to its forwer ba-
lance, moderation and good faith ; and, afteiiirging
thefe ideas with his ttfaal ability, concluded by giving
vote for the motion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
exprefred his regret, that the fame circumtlances
-Ich prevented his Islajelly from making any more
reel communication to the Houfe, than that which
Melfage contained, rendered it impofiible for him
fellow the Hon. Member who had jull fat down,
through many of the details which his Speech con-
'ned. Before he proceeded to offer a few obferva-
tions on the queflion immediately bcforeahc Houfe,
was anxious to make one or two remarks on thole
topics with which the Hon. Member, who intro-
duced the Winds, prefaced his motion. Thefe topics
been fo ably commented on by his Noble Friend
tr him (Lord Catilereagh) that he fhould not have
tought it neceffirry to refer to them, if the left fpeaker
not revived and enforced them. There was ann.
ier realms that rendered it the lets requifire for
to enlarge on them, and that was, they were not
taically conneeed with the quetlion fubmitted to
confideration of the Houfe. The Houfe heard
fucceffion of the fituation of the finances—of the
ate of the army—of the extent of our Navy—of the
prefent (late of the public mind in Ireland. All theft
points were urged, and in that way too, which gave
to an idea that the Honourable Member walled
hive them all made the fubjea of feparate
difcuf-
as. with the view of removing what is dela:live,
placing every thing on a different eflabliffiment ;
idea, however, turned out to be erroneous, for the
arm. Member, fatisfed with a fimple adjournment
from week to week, cr from fortnight to fortnight,
'• with the purpofe of enabling the Houfe to renew
difeuffions on the general (tate of our relations,fis.
..gn and domeflic, but merely of receiving that corn-
munication which could not be brought forward un •
the prefent circumflances. Such being the (late
the cafe, he was relieved from the neceffity of go-
into any mintnenefs of detail. Of the !late of our
traces, be could by no means entertain thofe gloomy
IS which the Honourable Gentleman entertained.
thought, on the contrary, the profpeet they af-
.ded was highly confolatory. As to the promife
which the Hon. Gentleman had Willed, he had to
• that he was not in office at the time it was made,
athe was fatisfied that if great and unexampled bur-
dens had not been rendered necetfary, the pledge would
aye been amply fulfilled. Even if a fum of feven
eight million; had been fufficient, the Sinking Fund
Mould have covered it without accumulating more
*ht. It was confoling and encouraging, that inflead
of adding to our loans, we could mile by the Sinking
Fond, and the taxes railed within the year, no lee
(um than twenty millions this year. This was a
flattering piastre of the (late of our refources,
the regular payment of near eight millions a
by the finking fund, in fpite of our accumulated
difficulties, was the bell teffimony in favour of public
credit. The beneficial eft& of this fyfiem it was
needles for him to ;aft upon, for they were felt
the general profperity, indultry, and comfort of
people. He would not now go into details on
I part of the fisbjed, as another opportunity would
; afforded him, when an Honourable Gentleman,
whole ability and accuracy well fitted him for the
Idt, &mild fubmit his refolutions to the Houfe.—
linen thefe refolutions were introduced, he fhould,
Ae untied, be able to thew the Houfe that the view
which he gave of the financial Rate of the country,
by no means dela five. As to the prefent Date of
army, he declined laying much at precept, re-
log himfelf for the day when the fubjeCt would
fully dircufred. He begged leave, however, to
Jude to what had been Paid about his promifes to
ce the army on 4 proper footing, and the dirap-
ornent of ttiefe promifes. He had to complain
his fentiments and language had on this subject
either mifundertlood or mifteprefented. As to
aflual amount of our military force, he had long
declared that it appeared to him nearly ade-
‘e to the circumtlances of the country. What
thjcCied to was, principally, the mariner in which
was difiributed. He had complained too of our
tciency in difpofable force, arid its fupply this deli-
trey. his moll active exertions had been &teed..
did not fee then any ground for fnatorfiag* that,
the accomplilliment of to (lambic am:midi. ttm-i
•ary expedients fhould not hi retorted-to,- and ?di-
ets had accordingly combined thefe with a plan
the regular recruiting of the army..3f.froia.this
iod lall year, down to td e prefent day.
T twenty or-
ty thoufand men had been added to our.difpnfa-
Force, he did not fee with what jullice•MiniAers,
.s be accufed of negleting our militai y ref-maces.
begged Gentlemen to refire on the difficulties at-
ling the recruiting for the army in this commer-
lonntry, and yet with all thefe difficulties ave had
a difpofable !race of a hundred and 'forty thou-
well difciplincd troops, betides a hundred thou.
'hat were flationary• there were to be :tddtd
. four hundred thoufand Volunteer!, twining
together a force which :;,t once (hewed the activity
-re Government, and the zeal and fpir it of our
trar population. The (late of our military
igth was indeed filch as to remove all diffidence
inxiety. The Right Honourable Membtr next
erred to the !late of the Navy. It Witi title that
was in (hips of the line a very trifling increefe
then it was confidered how many had been need!-
laid up in the docks to be repaired, he was fore
the exertions of the Noble Lord la•ely at the head
to Admiralty, to txpedite this important branch
public terviee, were entitled to the gratitude Itl
ie country. Equally entitled Cu approbation was
zealous activity in providing (ores of every de-
iption, and his diligence in battening and fitting out
inferior fpecics .of twill force which the .pe-

can, eircuranancee of the country required. He
denied that the efcape of the French fquadrons at all
evinced want of knowledge or activity on the part of
the Admiralty. On every one of the nations where
the fquadrons of the enemy were, they had been
blockaded, and if by accident the blockade was raif-
ed, there was no proof of the lean blame attached to
any one individual. It was quite impollible, great
as was the amount of our naval force, to have fqua-
drons in all parts of the world to which a halite fleet
might by accident direct its courfe. He vindicated
the conduit of the Admiralty as to the flail failing of
the Toulon fleet. It was not then afcertained that
they had gone out of the Mediterranean. On the
contrary, there was then reafon to fiappofe that they
had in view an (fled much nearer than any attempt
either on the Wen India !nand' or the Brazils,
though he was not at liberty to speak with greater
freedom on the fubjed. He denied that the ntim.l
ber of troops on board the Toulon fleet had ever'
been afcertained. On the contrary, the mod contra-
di dory accounts bad at different times come into the
poffeffion of Minifiers. Every reafonable precaution I
had been taken on the part of Government, but nn vi-
gilance, however active, could at all times prevent the
efcape of an enemy, continually onthe watch to elude'
us. He next touched on the nate of Ireland, which
he allowed was ground of not a little anxiety. A
great improvement bad taken place, but much yet
remained to be done to perfect the advantages of the
union. He trained that every thing inflammatory
would he fludinutly avoided on a fubsed fo delicate,
and at the fame time fo interesting : as it had only
been incidentally alluded to, he lhould not inGft on
it on the prefent occafion. After thus going through
thefe preliminary points, the Right Honourable
Gentleman proceeded to hate :vhat had been his
original views of the renewal of hollilities—views
from which he had never for a moment depart-
ed. He had never fuppofed or maintained that the I
military force of this country was adequate to re-
duce the inordinate ambition, or curtail the over-
grown power of France. He had maintained, how-
eever, that this country could nat, continently with
its fafety, maintain the relations of peace and amity
with a Government whole hoflile views were fo une-
quivocally manifetled. He had thought that the
Ipirit and energy of this Nation, properly difplayed.
might route the fpirit of the Powers of the Continent,
and that an opportunity might be found of making
a common caufe with them againa the ambition of
an individual rellrained-by none of thefe laws which
regulate the intercourfe of civilized kingdoms. Of
the power of this Country to repel the Invafion he
never entertained a doubt, and he trolled that the
attempt, if made, would be fo repelled as to hold out
encouragement to thole whom fear had bound in fla-
vilh obedience, to rife up and (hake off their ignomi
nious chains. Such were the views which he had laid
down, and loch had been the principles on which the
confidential communications alluded to in his Ma-
jelly's Menge had been concluded. The principle
of joint peace or joint war formed the balls of the
negotiations, and he was glad to find his Right Hon.
Friend (Mr. Windham) fully entered into the fyf-
tern. To obtain fuch a er»operation from Ruffia was
what Miniflers were desirous of effeding, and what
true poliey cLarly demanded.
Ile allowed, indeed, that Ruflia alone, indepen
nent of other Continental Powers, was not efficient
for effedually reducing the power of France. To
interell other posers in the lame caufe, became there-
fore a matter of the utmett consequence, but to ac-
complilh this he needed not to apprize the Houfe,
was a matter of e x tremc difficulty. The fecrefy which
filch negotiations required, the difeutlion of all the
circumstances connected with fuch a clofe union of
interelts, and the arrangement of the means by which
the different members of the Confederacy could all
be brought to ad together, were all reafons why the
communication alluded to in the Menge could not
now, after fo long an interval, be latisfadorily ex-
plained. He trufled then the Houle would not refute
to give, on this occalion, the fame credit to the Met-
fag e, which other Meffa„oes, under fimilar circumllan
ces, had obtained. His Majefty lived, that no more
diltind communication could be made with fafety,
and therefore he hoped that no unnecelfary obstacle
might be thrown in the way of connedions. capable
of procinciag the mon latisfadory results. The Right
Hon. Gentleman, after a number of observations to
the fame tired, concluded by giving his negative to
the motion.

Mr. WrNAHAM and Mr. PITT explained.
Mr. GREY took a view of the various arguments
that had been offered against him, and concluded by
deprecating the weaknefs of the prefent Adminigtra-
tion, with the bare exception only of the talent for
debate that didinguiffied the Right lion. Gentleman
—a weaknefs and. inefficiency that were greatly aug-
mented by the divilion and difcord that at prefent
reigned in the Cabinet,
A divilion then took place—Ayes t to—Noes 261
—Majority againff the Motion r 5 t.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS, THURSDAY, JUNE 20.
HIS MAJESTY'S MESSAGE.
The Order of the Day for taking his Majefly's Mcf-
(age into confideration being read,
Lord MULGRAVE laid, that in moving an Ad.
drefs to his Majefty, in anfwer to the Mefrage, heap
prehended it would be unnecelfary for him to trouble
the Houle with any obfervation upon it. The mo-
tion which he meant to make, was one in which he
was fore all their Lordfhips would concur, as it went
to pledge them to nothing of a fpecific nature, and
merely propofed to renew that general affitrance of
their flipp,ot, which had been given in anfwer to his
Majelly's Speech at the opening of the Seflion of Par.
liament. If however, contrary to his expectation,
any riLi:aions fhould he made to this propofition, he
refer ved to himfelf, with the pe: million oldie Honk,
the power of replying to them. His Lord(hip then
moved, that an Humble Addrefs be prefented to his
Majelly, thanking him for his moil gracious Ma:age,
and alluring him of their Lorclfhips' readinefs to con-
cur in filch meafures as fhluld enable him to enter int.)
fach engagements as the exigency of affairs might re-
quire..

Eat CAM'S FORT role, and declared that he
cnuld not help exprefEng the furprize which he felt
at the nature of the motion now made. The melfage
was neither more nor lcfs in fubfiance and ceet, than
a repetition of the communication which had been
made to the Houfe at the commencement of the pre.
font Scffioni and in confcquence of which a my larze

fine of the public teeney beaten voteti for the per. f
pole of Continental alliance, and fuch equal to the
revenue of many European powers. At the dif I
tance of fix months from the time of voting this large
fern, the Houk was led to under land that the com•
munications with the Continental Powers, with an
eye to which this furn had been granted, were not
brought to fuch a point as to enable his Majef-
ry to lay the refult before the Houle, and yet the
Noble Lord atked of their Lordfhips to concur in a
motion, the diet of which was the voting away
a further fom of the public money, without the
fmalleft likelihood of any beneficial confequences be-
ing derived from it. The fait was, that none of the
Powers on the Continent had any confidence in, or
would contra& with our Government. By entering
into the Treaty of Amiens, we had facrificed and
abandoned thole principles which had uniformly
been the nandard to regulate the condua of this
country. We had (hewn a difregaid far the due pre-
fervation of the interefts of the Continental Powers,
and bad aced folely for our own intcreit and advan-
tage. leaving them to regard our condua with equal
fulpicion as they could have done the power of
France. His Lordfbip proceeded to thew the int.
propriety of that Treaty altogether, and the folly
which a confiderable time chara&erifed this Govern.
ment, in viewing as a peace what was merely a fa.
penfion of hoftilities. During that period of infau•
ation, we gave up what it wotrld require a vigorous
and fuccefsful war to recover; and finding war at
length inevitable, we ruffled into it on defeaive and
itsfufficient grounds,at a time when many and fubftan-
dal grouods of war exilled. What afterwards had
been the booth of this Government ? That we had
boo !hips in commiftion—that we had 800,000 men
in arms—that we were ready not only for defence,
but that while we kept the enemy blocked up in their
own ports we were preparing a force which would
loon be ready fur foreign offenfive operations. How
miferably, however, had thefe boatts been realired.—
Our marine, of which we had heard to much, and
which were laid to be holding the enemies' ports in
a Rate of blockade, had no: (truck a Jingle decitive
blow, although the enemies Beets had come out from
almoft all their ports, -had for Come time been riding
triumphant on the leap, and at this very moment
were proceeding on enterprizes of which the Govern-
ment of this Country were totally ignorant. So far
from having well•founded confidence, as we were in
ore to have in our navy, we were warranted at this
moment in entertaining the deepeft anxiety for the
prefervation of our pofreffions in the Weft, in the
Eaft, and, indeed, in every quarter of the world.
—Yet this was the Government, there were the
Advifers of his Majefly, to whom we were again call-
ed on to entruil the difpofal of large fums ,• and to
whore wifdcm, independent altogether of the advice
of Parliament, it was thought that the concerns of
this Country ought to be united. The Noble Lord
then proceeded to (hew, that in the belt times of this
country, particularly in the reign of King William,
it was the uniform cuftom to alk the advice of Parlia
meat, and to lubmit to t'.em communications, trea
ties, &c. in the courfe of their progrefs ; but alto that
1 Parliament was in the habit of Rating to his Majelly,
for what purpofes dillinaly they would think it pro-
per to grant him votes of credit ; to exprera their re-
gret when they Caw things concluded not in the man-
ner they could have withed ; and to fuggeft Inch re-
-1 medics as reourred to them for any evils which might
have happened. Such being the privileges, and fuch
the ufage of Parliament, the Noble Lord declared he
could fee no reafon for placing Inch confidence as was
now alked in the prefent advilers of his Majefty. He
fhould therefore move as an amendment, to leave out
all the words afterthanking his Majeßy for his moll
gracious Meffage, for the purpofe of inferting there
words—and requetling " that his Majefty would be
gracioufly pleated no; to prorogue the prefent Parlia-
ment till it Ihould be in his Majetly's power to lay
before them the refult of thecommunications in which
his Majefty has been engaged with the Continental
Powers alluded to."

Lord MULGRAVE profeffed himfelf at a lofs
to conceive what relation the Treaty of Amiens, or
indeed great part of the Noble Earl's fpeech, had to
the amendment with which he had concluded. He
thOuld not, therefore, follow the Noble Earl into
thefe details, but Ihould content himfelf with flatting
a few lath as to the tietual Rate of the naval and mi-
litary force of this country. In the firti place, then,
he had to lime, that within the lall twelve months
the difpofable hit cc of this country had been incteafed
37,000 men ; and that fence the 4th June tBo4, there
had been fent to reinforce our potfetlions abroad
ty,ooo men; and that our whole difpollible force
amounted to about 119,003 men. That we had at
prefent in commillion 91 fail of the line, to which
we were daily making additions.—That the whole
orench, Spanith, and Dutch fleets amounted to BD.
So if we looked at that number and our own, v •
would find that we had aflually in commiflion it
fail of the litre more more than all their combined
HfleLts., We had betides in commifilon tz flips of so
guns, which were equal to Dutch (hips of the line,'
making, in that view, a fuperiority of 23 flips of
p.tbe line. As to our frigates, they were more than
.double the number of thofe belonging to the ;meaty.
His Lordfhip then proceeded to thew, that though
tome of the enemy's fquadrons had efcaped, it was
not imputable as a crime to Government to be igno-
rant of the deflination of a fecret expedition. tic
alfo contended, that the communications our being
in firth a Rate of forwardnefs as to warrant
tine of them to Parliament was no ground for deity.
ing to Government the ufital confidence in loch cafes,
as Minittcrs would aft on their refponlibility. His''
Lort;chip pled indifpolition as an apology for not en-
tering more fully into the quellion, and fat down,
being feemingly unable to proceed.
Lord UAWKESBURY maintained that no Par.
liamentary ground had been thewn for the a nend-
ment. Connexion with the great powers of Etoope
was an objeft molt feduloufly cultivated by Minifters;
and the fituation of Europe was occationed by cir-
curnftances out of their controul. The Meffage and
the Addrefs moved thlt night naturally grew out of
the Speech from the Throne and the Addtefs at the
opening of the Seffion. To call for a difclofitre of
negotiations before they are brought to a refult, was
unofual in praCtice, might fruarate the end, and took
away refponfibillty from Ministers. It was indeed toll
ficient to Rate the general grounds of a Vote of Credit.
Lord CARLISLE, in fupporting the amendment,
.Dated as his principal man, that the country could

'place ISO Confidence in the prefentliry. Tiy
had held out magnificent expellations ; but had per.
formed nothing. Their attention was too much
.
cured in patching up their own quarrels ; and t:,(
refult was full as might have been anticipated. Ow!
might every day hear fuch difconrfe as the following
-" Do you know what the Minifiry are about i"-••••
46 No ! but I can tell you what B..naparte is about.
He is marching vidorionfly from one end of Italy to
the other."—" Have Miniflers mule up their quar-
rels ? or do you know who days in and who goes out ?"
" That I can't.anfwer ; but I can tell you, that the
Rochefort fquadi.on has been out, and returned fafe,
after ravaging our Colonies in the Weft
can alto tell you that the Combined fleet is nut, and
that nobody knows where it is gone tn."—His Lord-
fhip then went on to argue, that. ssliether the negleia-
proper that the rcldt lhould be inilantlY comtnuni-
tions terminated favourably or unfa:'"uniblY, it WA6
cam! ; and in order to enfure an opportm:itY 61
Inch communication, he would give vo'c
the Amcnslment.

The Earl of CAMDEN vindictred Miniflers art}
the prefent meafure. In the coutfe of his fpcech
listed, that 17 fail of the line would be brought for.
ward within the year iSos.
The Earl of WESTMUKELAND and Lord Hassow.
ax took the fame fide.

The Ear!sof DA RNLEY,SUFFOI.Ii, and CA R-
NA RVON fupported the mntitn, and tnaintained
that the Vote of Credit was without übj.eß. It took
the fhape of a lublidy, but with whom, or fir what
purpofe, was unknown—and whether Sweden or
Defratines was to be our did not appear. A
conftitutional Vote of Credit was for purpofes known,
though their extent was net afcertalned. •
Lord SIDMOUTEI defined a Vote of Credit to be en additional
fum voted after and beyond the fervices of the wear, Cu meet any
exigency. This was not ftridly a Vote of 'Credit; for their
Liardihips are only aGted to concur teeth the other Houle in the
appropriation of a tuna already voted by them. It was a proof of
the anxiety of Government to confult Parliament in every Rep-.
for after waiting till the ufual time of praroruing, aud finding the
negotiation in a Rate not to admit of its being' laid before Pattie.
meat, they gave all the general information in their power. Bottt
the prefent and the lid adminiftrations were antiotte to form eon.
nedtions with great foreign powers. It was one of the ciajefts
the Peace of Amiens; for though it was intended to keep i: with
fampulous fidelity, yet when the ambition and offences of Frame
fhould render war neceffery, the goodwill ef Foreign Powers to.
wards England, would be cultivated by that Pewee. It was alto
to twat reprobated peace that the difpofition of the people cheer.
fully to bear the burtberts of the war, may be chi fly aferibed. The
Noble Lords who bad fupported tbeamendment, had called loud
for means of augmenting one difpofable force. Yet the =Aare
of the army of referee, and reduaftion of the Militia, were oppofed
by them. He would add one more meaforee-athe minas for ranh,
the (Teter advancing only one Itep at a time, and being duly qua-
lified for it. His Lordihip then proceeded to vindicate our naval
force. No exertion had been (pared In the beginning of the war,
nor ever face. The time defigned for the Parliament to continue
fitting by the Amendment was vague, indefinite, and emelt unin-
telligible. There could be no time, during the war, in which it
could he fide or proper that his Mikity fhoulddifelofe all his view*
to the Houle. The Conititution had provided the means,if any
Fadden emergency mould render the Parliament's *deice necefary
to her Makfty ; and it was nioft five to leave the matter to the
Prerogative of the Crown, and the tifual eourfc.
Lord HOLLAND in a fpeech of confiderable length and great
animation, oppofed the arguments of the Noble Vircount ; in which
he maintained, that the reluetance of foreign power, to enter into
alliance with us, arofe from their wearinefs of war. and their Limit
of our rapacity and ambitiou. The Emperor of Ruflia could no;
look at a donee given him by us. wi•lvnut being reminded of a die-
pofition in us that he cold ill rani in an ally ; and we bad fo ma-
naged our (pedal pleaditigs on the war, that the geeard feelirgs of
Europe were turned againft us.
Earl SPENCER fupported the Amendment.
Earl CARYSFORT (hotly replied.
Lord GRENVILLE maintained that the fituation of the coma
try ship:met), required that Parliament Itrauld continue fitting-ta
aiet en kind realm had been given to thew it th old not. During
this meritorious war and ever finee the declaration in the King's
fpecch at the beginning of the Selfion,Parliament teased' .g in total
ignorance, and knew no more now than it di &then, as to the ob-
it:els which Government had in view. Concerning the l't4Ce of
Amiens, he Rill maintained the fame opinion he had ever done;
and that peace clearly proved the neeeffity of our having connexions
on the Continent. Without fach Comexians we never could, with
any advantage, carry on negociations far Peace. The feeds of the
preterit War were town in that very Treaty of Amiens fo much
Deafted of. larly any tranftetion ever took place °lithe part of
Government, in which there was loch a WWIt of ability as in that
Peace, and the perfons who made it,now formed apart of the Admit
taration. Here his I.ordihip dwelt on Come of the princip it articles
of that Treaty, which was na m ire than a repetition of what
he had tormerly flat-.d. He then called the attention of the
Houle to the prefent lix.. cative .ioaertinletit, which he contidered
wholly inefficient, and incapable of n-..itmeing the affairs of the
country. But whether the iviendasrs of that Government
qualified or not, they were totally divided among themfelvcs--
they natal not in union or concert, and, therefore, they could not
expert that confidence from others which they had not for
thrmfelees. The Country was in a dreadful fituation. and it it was
to be raved, it could never be done by a weak and disunited Go-
vernment. When 7`.linifters called on that Houle for con fidence. how
was it poilEhle for the Houle to know in whom it was to be placed t
Was that coufidence to be given to men who Ruled not the wel-
fare of the State, but who were emoloyed• in private difputes, aid
mutual recrEmination—(l.rd cria rf hear! bear !)--Thi. was man--
tett in all their aCtions and in all their lanemage. The enemy in the
raeau time was every day ettereafing in ftrength. His Lordfietp
dwelt on the reef-Ay of having men in power fit to ferve the
counts-), and who would be able to open negotiations for Peace,
in a general Corgrefs, at which the Powers of the Continent, if
not allies, might be mediators.
The LORD CHANCELLOR vindicated the Peace of Amieuv.
and toot credit to hienfelf for his mare in that tried •..dtion. He
denied that any Ally had been facrificed eo that oecafion. All that
remained to us went Pcrtugal and Tuned!, and fur theft we had
exerted every effort. He condemocd the Amendment, as containa
ing no aniveer whatever to the King's Teleffage, and as tendingpr,
La, sti:e to deport the Sovereign ! The rum required was a large
our, b.a Minifters were refponlible for its ule, end Parliament
was in the end to decide on its application. It would be more
advifeable to propofe the removal it ntinifters than to tie up their
hands at a moment when every &art was occeirary to check the
domineering ambithai of the enemy.
Earls CANIDEN and CAR LISLE. and the LORD CHAN-
CE f.LOR and Lord GREN VI lA E feverally eaplaired.
• His Royal Ili„efinefs the PRINCE to WALe faid tbat he had
delayed nitre; t late hour, in expedtation of the art Wal of a
Noble Rel.:tree e•hi who had hero pi eve I4tCd from attecding the
Houle by par icular circurntlarces. lie now rife merely for the
purpofe 0; dating that that Noble Perron had intended to &Eva-
his fenrini. ues on the febje A how beton: the ;tinge, in tavoar •-'
the anivntlitiert, atal in convicts unifen with the fostiments he
ably delivered by his Noble friend (laird Grew/One). lie had r.o
heltration aao in Retina, that thofc feritiments were entirely ilad•
far to what hI, Royal iiighnefs hinvell entertained.
•1110 qu aim -tett, then put, when the Hstife divided on t! c
motian for the adarefs—Coutems, ;indent G Prozies i—it 1-.•
Nut co::terts, prelent 36, Proxies 12...38—Majority 53.

great crifit
did not fee
Mar then
compored
country w
country w
which aff,
the fort of
mental Pm
!hip we of
vale. He
peace to
leading Ct
France, ss
cpi;tier. of
views, ani
the. belt m
lance, mo<
theft idea'
his vote fi
The CI
I I expreffed
which pre
1.1 direr com
the Meltig
to fellow t
through in
tained.
Lions on th
he was ant
topics wit
duced the
bad been:
sear him (
thought it
I I bad not re
ther reafe
him to en)
praftically
the conlidt
in fuceeffic
:late of tho
prefent liar
points wer
‘.l rife to an i
to hive tin
lions, wit)
and placim
this idea, I
lion. Men
from week
pot with tl
any diftufl
reign and e
nounicatio:
der the pre
of the cafe
ipg into at
finances, h
ideas whic
i-le thong)
forded wn
on which d
fay, that 1;
buthe was
dens had ni
have been
or eight mi
would hay
debt. It, n
of adding
Fond, and
a rum that
Ina Baum
and the re
year by the
credit. TI
' needles fo
in the gem
the people.
tills part of
I
be afforded
• whore abili
-tidt, thou)
IWhea there
he trolled,
• which he g
was by noi
our army,
(erring hitt
be fully el
allude to s
place the al
polntment
teat his fer
been either
the a)ual
fence declar
quite to tl
h: objcard
it was diar
deficiency
ciency, his
lie did not
fur the acct
pnrary expe
tillers had ;
J for the regu
period tall y
thirty thouf,
ble force, by
could be acc
He begged
tending the
cial country
Pow a difpo
find well di
find that we
aboirt four
altogether
of the 0071
general' pn,
firength wal
or anxiety.
adverted to
there was in
but when it
fully laid u
that the eze;
of the Adm
01 ruhl
of the count
his zealous
fcription, ar
that interim