Star.
London, England, 1807-01-24 00:00:00

Mr. ROSE produced an account, in an Arranged
form, of the various items of naval expenditure, un-
der :boa of the heads diftinguifhed by the Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Grenville) •, many of the particu.
Jars of which he read to the Houfe as an anfwer to
the Chancellor of die Exchequer's obfervations, that
no fuck accounts could be obtained. He Paid they
had been in office, fince 1793, and were ready at any
time to be produced, had they been required by Par
liament.
Mr. T. GRENVILLE was not inclined to make
any Wine remark; bnt if the Right Hon. Gentleman
had the accounts, why did he not produce them for
the examination of the Houfe ? His ( Mr. Grenville's)
defence was, that be did not exhibit them to the Com-
mittee beeaufe ht could not have accefs to them : all
he could do was to promife to produce them, when
he could get poffefliun of them. Then the Right
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Rofe) procured this account,
afterhaving gone home for the purpofe,and,returning
to the Houfe, Paid, " I have had the account in my
pocket for fourteen years ;" yet he never, during that
time, deigned to impart its contents for the informa•
tion of the Houfe. 64 If 1," (aid Mr. Grenville,
" had retained it in my pocket fourteen years, the
Right Hon. Gentleman would have had a juft caufe
of reproa 5h againa Inv"
After a few words from Mr. Ross and Mr. VAN-
SITTAR.T.

Sir JOHN NEWPORT complained of the man.
ner in which papers were withdraan from the public
offices on any change in the Adminifiratinn, and par.
titularly itt his own office, that not a tingle document
was left to him on this tide the It ilh Channel.

Mr. RUTHVEN enquired bow the. Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Role) procured the document he
had read to the Committee ?

Mr. ROSE laid it was his property, and copied at 1
his expence, for his own private convenience. Being
anted by the famelHnn.Member:from what document
it was copied, Mr. Rnfe replieJ that he believed the
original was in the Navy Office.
rhe queflion was then pot and carried, and the
following fums woe voted in the Committee fur the
current year :
240,5001. for the (aid feamen.
237.30e1. for vidualling the fame.
390.c001. for wear and tear for the chipping of the fame.
33,00)1. ordnance on board the limps where the fame may be
employed, at 31 per man per month, for t 3 months.
1.1334341.9 x• 3d. for ordinaries for the Navy, including half
pay to Naval Officers.
1.134 9031. for building Ships in the King's and Merchants'
Yards.

ixseo,ocol. for the hire of tranfport.
303,ee01. for the fick and wounded at home and abroad.
soopooL for prifoners of war at home and abroa 1.
Mr. VANSITTART, in a Committee of Supply,
moved that the following fums be voted, nn which
the motions were focceffively pot and write! ;

1,1401. for the fuperhatendanee of Aliens.
12,0001. for the expense of the Office in Bow Itreet.
51,-5ol• for the ex pence of convicts at home.
15,c001. for contingent expences of the three Secretaries of State.
1 a.ooct. for the Meffengt rs of the fame Offices.
175,c00L for Foreign ind &act Services.
20,cc01. for Law Offices.
3=l. [or ExtraordinAry Fxpences of Profecutions.
ILA-xi for Over-payments in tBo7.
140,1991 171 for Emigrants and American Loyalifts.
14.421. 13s. 6d to make good deficiencies to Fmig:a...t Clergymen.
10.3361. 35. for Proteitant Diffenting Aliniders and French Re
fugees.
1301. ss. 4d. for the Minifters of the Savoy Churches.
193 1/. 41. ed. for Stationary in the Exchequer.
2 go]. lor Altoisencts to Officers of the Hodes of Lords and
Commons.

_ ..... _
59,7 601. for work done at the two Notices of Parliament, and at
the Speaker's hook fince 18:4, congaing alto what is yet to be
completed.
sz,B-01. to make good deficiencies in the former votes for thefe
purpofes
49931 is. for repairs of military roads ht North Britain.
It was next put and eArricd, That the above refo.
lotions be reported to the Honfe, and that the Chair-
man (Mr. Hobhotife) do afk leave to fit again.
The Houfe being refumed, And the report brought
up,
Lord HOWICK moved, that the Committee ap-
pointed to fearch for precedents of the expultion of
Members have leave to fit during adjournments of
the Houfe ; and, further, that the Houfe, at its riling
adjourn to Monday. Both thefe motions were put
and agreed to.

COMMITTER OF SUPPLY.

The Report of the C,romittee of Supply was
brought up by Mr. Hobhoufe, on the motion of Mr.
Vanfittart. _ _ __ _

Alter lime converfation between Mr. Role and
Mr. John(lone on the other tide, and Lords Houick
and Henry Petty on the other, in which the former
objected to going into the Army Etlimates at In
late an h 'lir, and the latter per fitted in proceeding
to the difcidlion,
Sir JAMES PULTENEY laid, that confidering
die latenefs of the hour,he fhould confine himfelf to a
very few obfervations. As to the new Military Syllem
being prodnaive of An immediate fupply for the at my
it was now proved that it had not had that effcet—
and aliho' the Right Hon. Gentleman ( Mr. Wind-
ham) might not have been very languine as to the
number that it might mire, yet it molt be fuppofed
that the advocate: of the fytlem did taped that
it would at lean produce tOme increafe t whereas, on
the contrary, it appeared by the estimates that it had
occafioned a diminution. In order to make room for
this lyfiem, Which had only produced sOOO men in
a year, we had repealed a former fyitern, which bad
produced 15,000. However, his Majetty's Minifters
might hope that this meafure would ultimately be
beneficial, he mutt a& them, did not they confider
that fume fupply was rectlfary for the army in the
prefent year, and whether any of their meafures had
a tendency to procure that fupply ? The Honourable
Secretary at War (General Fitzpatrick) had contented
himfelf with laying, " no bad etfeds have been yet
felt from this meafure," be thought, however, that
he fhould have gone a little farther, and ihei.vesd that
fume good effects had been produced by it. As to
the Training Bill, it was a meafure he extremely
withed to be carried into elle& If ever there was a
moment in which the mealure was neceffary, it was
no lefs necelfary at the prefent moment. The
danger was not to be defpiled becaufe it was fome-
what difiant ; but, on the contrary, we fhould take
that opportunity of being fully prepared to meet it
when it fhould come. If the Bill ever was a good
one, it ought now to be carried into effed—but if
in the opinion of Parliament, it was a bad Bill, it
ought to be repealed. As to the Volunteers,altho'
it had been laid by a Noble Lord that they were as
numerous now as at any former time, yet it was no-
torious that there was by no means the fame attend.