Star.
London, England, 1814-06-15 00:00:00

ARMY PRIZE-MONEY.

Mr. C. LONG, preparatory to moving for leave
to bring in a Bill to facilitate the payment of Prize-
money to Soldiers, descanted at some length on the
injustice and hardships under which the army labour-
ed, by the improper and fraudulent conduct of infe-
rior agents. It was the duty of the country to.aliord
every assistance to those who had so gloriously de-
fendedit, in the obtainment of their rights ; and if

ever there was one period at which, more than at
another, this subject deberved the attention of the
House, it was at the present glorious termination of
a long protracted war. But, although considerable
difficulty,had prevailed in obtaining the prize-money
of soldiers from the bands of those who had I ing
been in the habit of withholding it, yet it was sAtis.
factory to know, that in consequence of the labt regu-
lation, there had been received from various Prize

Agents no less a sum than 4,:i69,000. whichs 1.7
being placed nut at interest, had produced an addi-%.
tion of £428,(1G0. There had been refunded about
a€ 104,000, and the sum of £125,000, for which no
claimants had appeared, had been paid over to Chek
sea Hospital. There were other minor disbursements;.
but after all, the balance remaining was about.
k 163,000, which had been invested in the 9 per Cent:
Consuls, Exchequer Bills, and other Securities..
The Right Honourable Gentleman then enlarged oe
the expediency of some farther regulations, auJ said
he should propose a ciause, to render what are called
substituted Agents, who reside in different parts of
the country, as responsible as the eriginal and regi
lar Agents. Another clause would require the Re-
gistrars of the Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Courts
to render frequent accounts of all the money remain-
ing in their hands ; and a third would brake the pro.
perty of Bankrupt Agents answerable for the money
due by them for prizes. On the whole, his wish was,
to bring all the different Acts on this subject into one
consolidated point of view; and lie invi:ed any Gen-
tleman to look attentively into those Acts, and offer
whatever suggestions they might think proper. The
Right Honourable Gentleman concluded with ma-
in? 66 That lease be given to bring in a Bill toregu.
late the payment of Army Prize Money, and to pro-
vide for the payment of unclaimed and forfeited shares
to Chelsea Hospital."
Mr. HORNER thought that proper care should
be taken to secure their rights to those who might not
return for a length of time.
Mr. LONG, in explanation, said, that due provi-
sion would be made in such cases ; at the same time
that it was necessary to secure for the public what no
claimants appeared for.
Mr. HORNER alluded to the difficulty which the
relations of claimants found, in obtaining inlhrmation.
Mr. ROSE assured the Honourable Gentleman,
that 'the utmost attention was paid to alt cliquities
and that all letters sent from any part of the country
were regularly answered.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT suggested the adoption
of some plan for giving soldiers or their iebnives is
Ireland the same facility of information as they would
obtain it here. An Lidice might he established, for
instance, in Dublin, to which they might apply,
which would rescue them from a set of harpies, who,
by promising to obtain their rights, got their docu-
men:s from those ignorant people, and subjected them
to all manner of fraud and extortion.
Mr. ROSE fully concurred in the judiciousness of
the Honourable Baronet's suggestion.
Sir CHARLES POLE most earnestly hoped that
the Treasurer of the Navy would not let the Session
pass over without bringing in some Bill for regulating
the Vice-Admiralty Courts in the West Indies. By
the mismanagement or delays in this department,
Greenwich Hospital was very much injured ; and
the House must be aware that this great establish-
ment would soon be in aced of all the funds which
were due to it.
Mr. ROSE could assure the Hon. Gentkman, that
with a view to abolish the evil complained of; a Bill
had actually been framed by him long ago, for the
purpose of consolidating the former laws, and enact-
ing new clauses.. He considered this measure more
necessary since the peace than ever it had been. It
would be made to apply particula; ly to Antigua and
Barbadoes, from which large sums were due. He
thought he should be ready to bring forward this Bill
by Monday next.
Leave was then given to bring in the BM moved
kr by Mr. Long.

FEES IN COURTS OF JUSTICE.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT, after briefly alluding to
the neglect in furnishing the documents ordered by
the House, moved that the Registrar of the Court of
Chancery be ordered to attend at the Bar.
The motion being seconded by Mr. I'. MOORE,
Mr. LAW suggested that the delay might have
arisen from the order not having been regularly
served, and hinted the propriety of withdrawing the
motion, that enquiry might be made.
Lord CAS I'LEREACrEi urged its postponement
on similar grouthis.
After some remarks from Mr. HORNER, on the
propriety of enforcing the authority of the House, Sir
JOHN NEWPORT colis;:nted to withdraw his mo-
tion till to-mormw.

MAI) HOUSE ittotionTios BILL.
Mr. ROSE moved, twat the Repot on this Bill be
further considered on Monday next.
Mr. DENNEY! suggested, that on account of the
•absence of many Members at this peculiar time, it
would be better to let the Bill stand over till the en.
suing Session.
Mr. ROSE reminded the House, that more than
three months had elapsed since, not being satisfied
with what had been done, he had got a Committee
appointed, who had bestowed the greatest considera-
tion on the subject ; and so far from supposing that
any difference of opinion could exist on it, he thought
the House wereonanimous as to its necessity. Tho
abusts of various kinds had been ascertained to be
such, that every Member would be shocked.at only
hearing one halt of what was known to the Com-
mi tine.
Mr. WII.BE RFORCE highly complimented Mr.
Rose for his exertions in calling the attention of Par.
liament to this subject. He could by no st4,.os agree
with the Honourable Member l.ehind him (:Ir. Ben-
nett), that the Bill should ba pcstpoueel till alto-
tner year.—Mr. ROSE eaplai.ted.
Mr. THOMPSON insisted on the abso:ute neces-

sity of the Bill, and its belahy, allowed • Mto pass IMO..
diateiy. He knew that in some ofeie houses per-
sons were treated with the greatest clue:iv. The Bill
was mainly calculated to forward the purpvscs t,f hu-
manity towa.ds unhappy and unprotected people.
Many of the places tii.it were supposed to be
naged as well as possible. teemed with abuses. He
alluded not merely to thr*t. in London, but in vAtioVo
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that were a scandal to human nature. It was high
time that such horrible proceedings should be looked
into ; and he hoped that no place, not even 4 Royal
establishment, would be exempted.—(Loud crier of
hear, hear.)—He meant Bedlam ; and he would say,
that he believed the greatest cruelties were practised

there.
Mr. BENNETT said he had been entirely misun-
derstood. So far from wishing to throw out impedi-
ments against the Bill, there was nobody more fa-
vourable to its general principle : he oaly wished it
to be more maturely considered.
Mr. WHITBREAD, from having been a mem-
ber of the Committee, could assure the House, that
the highest praise was due to the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman (Mr. Rose) for his indefatigable attention to
make the Bill perfect ; yet it was not now in that si-
tuation in which it ought to be passed. It was cer-
tain that great abuses had been practised ; but, by the
sweeping condemnation of the Bill, it might be sup-
posed that there was no place for the reception of lu-
natics in which they would be treated with humanity.
He had himself visited a number ,of these places; and
as Gentlemen had menticned Bedlam, he was afraid
lest it might be supposed that an excellent establish-
ment, of which he was a Governor, deserved a simi-
lar censure. He alluded to St. Luke's, than which
it was impossible for any place to be better conducted.
The Governors were ready to prove to any visitant,
that there was nothing to be found fault with. As
to the Bill, if it could not be made perfect this Ses-
sion, it would operate, and had already operated, as

a means of correction.
Mr. SHAW LEFEV RE was of a similar opinion.
The knowledge of these proceedings through the
country would have the good effect of making people

upon the alert.
Mr. W. SMITH bore testimony to the general
good treatment of the persons in St. Luke's ; where,
although there was nothing that could be termed an
abuse, there was much that might be improved. He
thought the principal defect in that establishment
was the want of a sufficient classification of the ob.
jects it contained. Respecting Bedlam, he could not
say se much ; and he considered the Petition pre-
sented from that place, to exempt it from visitation,
to be, in the mildest terms, a most injudicious mea-
sure indeed. In Bedlam, he was sorry to say that he
bad been an eye-witness to one or two instances of the
greatest abuse and mismanagement. These, perhaps,
arose from the people there going on in the same
routine, and thinking that what was right last year
must be right this. One case had excited the great-
est horror.—(Hear,hear.)—lf the House called upon
him he would describe it. There does exist in Bed-
lam the case of a man who had twice attempted the
life of his keepers ; but the House would think that
stn person, even a raging madman, who had attempt-
ed this or any thing else, ought to be so treated.—
Nothing could warrant the keeping of a man chained
to his bed for upwards of 13 years. He had seen
him last week, and found him capable of answering
almost any question that was put to him, in a man-
ner perfectly reasonable. He could tell how long he
bad been confined in this situation, as well as the
cause. of it. When told that he might be at liberty,
if he could answer for his future conduct, be said, he
could not always answer for himself ; but he asked
if this were a reason why lie should be always kept
in the inanner he was then seen in ? In short (said
Mr. Smith) his situation was enough to shock any
human being whose senses were not binnud by simi-
lar scenes. He was most anxious to press on the
House the consideration, whether any hospital, in
which such scenes were witnessed, ought to petition
for exemption from visitation ?
Alderman C. SMITH said a few words in favour
of the general regulations of Bedlam, as being abso-
lutely necessary.
Mr. W. SMITH, in reply, would ask if any man
ought to be confined to his bed, with a ring round
his neck, with his hands handcuffed, and irons round
both his legs ?
SirW. CURTIS thought there was no doubt that
sufficieat reasons could be given by the Physicians
for this extreme severity. Bur, as a Governor, he
would inquire into the circumstances ere the subject
should come again before the House. He would
ask, however, whether it would be beneficial, if these
visitations should be decreed, that a strange medical
man, accompanied by a Magistrate, should go and
counteract the operations of the Physicians of the
establishment, by setting loose a man who might do
the greatest mischief ?
Mr. HOLME SUMNER- said, he went to Bed.
lam, and in one of the cells observed the rod on
which the chain of Norris (the person in question)
moved, which confined him in a sort of iron frame.
—He told the man to take off kis blankets, that he
might see the frame that environed his body. He
did so ; and he (Mr. Sumner) found the case exactly
as it had been described by the Hon. Gentleman.—
This unhappy person made the observation, that in
August next lie should have been confined fourteen
.years! since his visit, he had received a letter from
a Gentleman, assuring him that it had produced an
amelioration of the case ; and that all the irons had
been knocked from the man, except that round the
neck.. He thought no advising Physician ought to
be consulted on a case of this kind, which spoke
plainly for itself. The Honourable Gentleman con-
cluded with saying, that it was impossible for any
person to examine the two establishments of Bedlam
and St. Luke's without being struck with the deci-
sive superiority of the latter. 'There were also.many
other houses of the kind which he had visited in his
tour, and found the people in them treated with the
greatest kindness. '
The Report was then ordered for farther conside-
ration on Monday:

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TREATY Olt PEACE.
Lord CASTLEREAGH made some observations
expressive of his with to, postpone the consideration
of the Treaty for a sew days. lie should propose
that the discussion should come on as early as pos-
sible • but he was bare the House would agree with
bins In he. necessity of having - a full attendance,
which could notise expected in the present week.
Mr. WHITBREAD -would submit to the Noble
Lord, whether it would not be preferable to postpone
111 qt4stions of itn'portatiie'till after the honours had
been! paid•to the'Ailled Sovereigns, which it did not
appear would be till afteli next Week In a few days
till the bicnibori wriuhl•be aviay at Portsmouth, and
after tha't, (What with a dinner being fixed for one

day, a slipper for the next, and so forth,) it st as not f
likely that Members would soon come down with an
appetite for debating. He therefore hoped that the
Noble Lord would postpone the discussion beyond
the time at which he seemed now inclined to press t.
As he was now up, he would ask the Noble Lord,
whether it was his intention to produce a certain in-
strument, to which this country appeared to be a
party—he meant the Treaty entered into by the Al-
lied Powers with the Emperor Napoleon ? If not,
he (Mr. Whitbread) should think it necessary to sub-
mit a motion for an Address—not with a view to
provoke any discussion, but front a mere sense of duty.
Lord CASTLEREAGH answered, that he bad
no wish to press forward the discussion; but he
thought that Monday se'nnight would answer the
views of the Members in general. Respecting the
particular Treaty about which the Hon. Gentleman
enquired, he should have no objection to produce as
much of it as voe had any concern in. The Treaty

was not a Treaty of ours.
Mr. WHITBREAD said, as it would be difficult
to shape a motion on the subject, he•hoped the Noble
Lord would give as many documents as possible.
A Me,sage from the Lords announced that thtir
Lordships had agreed to the Corn Exportation Bill,
without any amendment.

STATE OF THE CITY PRISONS.
Mr. HOLFORD, on rising to make the Motion
of which he had given notice, respecting the Prisons
of the Metropolis, said, although it had been con-
tended that there was no necessity for this measure,
on account of the building of new and enlarged
places of confinement ; yet there were many causes
of complaint, for which the size of such places would
afford no remedy. The first evil which he should
notice was the insufficiency of food allotted to the
prisoners. In Newgate, they have a weekly allow-
ance of bread and meat, as well as a Sheriff's Fund'
for supplying other necessaries : but it wag specifically
stated in the Reports, that the quantity of food was
not sufficient to support life, if the prisoners were not
otherwise assisted by their friends. The number of
persons in Newgate always fluctuated. Mr. New.
man had stated, that it was never less than could
consume all the provisions: and often the number
was so great, that the quantity was not near suffi-
cient ; and in those cases, after the allowance had
been divided. by the turnkeys in the open yard, the
prisoners were left to get more how they could. The
persons committed for trial laboured under peculiar
hardship; : they were allowed but ten ounces of bread
per day, and six pounds of potatoes per week. These
persons had no right to complain that they were
taken from their daily labour : this was incident to
their offences : but if it were foupd to be necessary
for the ends of justice to confine a man before trial, he
certainly ought at least to be supplied with sustenance.
There was no regulation in these prisons for the sup-
plying of clothing. All the bedding afforded to pri.
soners committed for trial consisted of two rugs ; and
as no straw was allowed, fur fear cf fire, a person
must sleep in his clothes, which was inconsistent either
with cleanliness or health. The Honourable Gentle-
man then alluded to the fees which were demanded,
and the inability to pay which subjected the prisoner
to various annoyances and indignities, such as being
I driven from the fire, and having his clothes seized on.
It had been stated by Mr. Newman, that if a. very
small allowance were made, it would put an end to
this shameful practice. Another strange evil was,
that men under sentence of death could purchase as
much wine and beer as they pleased, provided each
man had not more than a pot of beer or a bottle of
wine at a time. But when any man got drunk and
committed excesses, the whole ward was punished by
the exclusion of all the friends of the people it con-
tained. There was no discipline of any kind in New-
gate, and Mr. Newman had admitted, that the pockets
of those who went in were frequently picked. Before
the present Report was drawn up, he (Mr. H.) with
the Committee, had come to Newgate, and was on
the roof, when their attention was called to a distur-
bance in the yard, wi•ere they saw a regular boxing
match between two criminals, stripped and fettered,
having their bottle holder, and sitting on the knees
of their seconds as systematically as if they were
fighting in a field. Nor was tins disgraceful outrage
stopped, till a warthy Alderman suggested to the
Governor to interfere. The next topic he should no-
tice was, the case of respectable persons coming in
depressed and broken-hearted for debt, and who were
not prepared to pass at once from the comforts of a
home to alociety so depraved--the cause of morality
as well as of humanity, dictated some alteration in
their mode of imprisonment. He objected to the re-
gulations on what was called the Master's side of
Newgate, but not to the State side, though in neither
case ought the sums paid by the parties confined to
go into the jailor's pocket. Though some distinction
ought to be made between the various prisoners com-
mitted to Newgate, the 31st of the King contained
no exception in favour of persons who could pay the
jailor 2s. 6d. per week for superior accommodation.
It often happened that the highwayman or the house-
breaker would be most competent to pay for those
comforts which were not afforded to the prisoners
generally, by those who were supported by the
profligate who were yet at large, and who would
be willing to furnish such assistance, lest discove-
ries should be made nearly affecting themselves.-
-Another subject which he thought called for'parti-
cular attention was the manner in which the religions
duties of the several prisons were performed. On
examining four Chaplains of the five city prisons (the
fifth prison had none), the result was not very satis-
factory. The
.keepers it appeared had never been
compelled to attend the chapels in their prison them-
selves, and it should seem they preferred going with
their families to church. The Ministers spoke of the
conduct of the prisoners at Chapel, as being disor-
derly, but one of them certainly spoke rather of the
past than of the present, as he was 70 years of age,
lived 15 miles from the prison, and was so ill, that be
could not pass a night in town. Dr. Ford, the Or-
dinary of Newgate, considered his duties confined to
the performance of chapel service, and to attend-
ance on those culprits who were under sentence of
death. In his examination he had said lie knew no-
thing of the state of morals in the prison, and that he
never heard of a convict being sick till he ivas called
Upon to attend a,t his funeral. He had never consi-
dered it a part of his duty to' attempt to reclaim
young persons, and others who were confined for
crimes which were not liable to be punished by death.
He (Mr. Holford) had seen some boys in the prison,

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and had had the curiosity to ask them if they knew
the Chaplain ? They answered in the affirmative,
and acknowledged with much gratitude that they had
derived great benefit from the instruction which he
had humanely given them, and shewed him several
articles with which they had been supplied by his
kindness. He (Mr. Holfurd ) had upon this observed,
that the Ordinary did himself great injustice in not
stating that he acted thus by persons in their situation,
when he was set right by the keeper, who informed
him, that the Gentleman, who had been mistaken by
the boys for the Chaplain, was one of those olicious
persons who were stated by the Ordinary, in his exa-
mination, to be in the habit of intruding themselves
into the prison, and who were incessantly employed
in cramming the prisons (that was his expression)
with prayers and preaching. The allowance of the
Ordinary of Newgate was sufficiently liberal (more
so than the allowance of many Clergymen).—
The fault was, care had not been, taken to see the
duties of the office properly performed. After some
further remarks on the evils of the present system, he
observed he had now made out a case which, in his
opinion, called for the interference of Parliament. He
had been told there was no necessity for the bill
which he proposed to bring in, and it had been said
the City would remedy the evil by appointing three
Aldermen to superintend the prison, one of whom
should be exchanged monthly, till the whole Court of
Aldermen had performed this duty. He however
thought it would be better that a permanent Com-
mittee should be appointed, to consist of Members of
the Courts of Aldermen and Common Council. From
the superintendence of such Committee, he thought
the evils he complained of, would find a more inane-
diate and effectual remedy. He concluded by moving
for leave to bring in a Bill for the better manage-
ment of the City Prisons.
Sir. W. CURTIS said the City were now anxi-
ously endeavouring to remedy the evils which had
been brought under the considetation of the House
by the Honourable Gentleman. Many of them would
be done away, when the large prison now erecting
was completed. The case of persons committed for
trial was not so very hard as the Honourable Gentle-
man might think, as, for the most part, they were
only committed to Newgate one day before the com-
mencement of the Sessions. He contended, the City
ought not to be put to the expence of feeding and
clothing prisoners, so as to tempt disorderly persons
to break the laws, that they might get food and new
clothes. In various instances, prisoners had not hard-
ships to complain of to the extent supposed. What-
ever evils existed, the City could and would supply
the best remedy. If the City Magistrates were not
competent to take care of their own prisons, they were
unfit to hold their situations.
Mr. DOUGLAS observed, no one wished to make
such provision for persons confined as should lead
the lower orders to think it a desirable thing to get
into prison, but he thought when regulations were
neglected which were essential to their health, they
were made to undergo a punishment which the law
had never intended they should suffer.
Mr. Alderman ATKINS thought, if the Honour-
able Gentleman had had patience to wait till the
new prison was completed, and till he could see what
was intended to be done by the City Magistrates, he
would have been satisfied with their measures, and
abstained from bringing the subject under the consi-
deration of the House. Till the New Jail was com-
pleted, he hoped the Honourable Gentleman would
not pres; the Bill hr proposed to biting in, till the
effects of the measures now in progress were seen;
he trusted he would not think it necessary.
Mr. BENNETT expressed his disapprobation of
the theatrical manner in which culprits ordered for
execution were exhibited at a condemned sermon,
with a coffin on the table before them. From the
evidence elthe Ordinary (which he read) it appear-
ed that many of the criminals were so much against
being thus exposed, that were it possible, they would
willingly submit to be executed twice over to aitoid
it. Some were so hardened that they did not care
how they were exposed ; but, in a recent instance, he
knew some of those who were to die had falsely
stated themselves to be dissenters to escape this ex-
posure in the Chapel.
Sir J. SHAW stated 822 persons to have been
late)i confined in Newgate, which had only been in-
tended to contain 400. While such was the effect of
the pressure of the times, many inconveniences must
be felt which could not be avoided. Various regula-
tions were in contemplation, which would remove
some of the evils which had been noticed by the Hon.
Gentleman. It was intended that prisoners discharg-
ed by the Magistrates should pay no fees—that pri-
soners against whom no bills were found should be
discharged without paying fees—that the Magistrates
who attended the Session eight times in the year should
visit the prisons; their report and observations to be
inserted in a book kept for that purpose—that the
Surgeons and Sheriffs should also visit them, and re-
port their observations to the Lord Mayor and Court
of Aldermen—that garnish money should be abolish-
ed—that the keepers should be handsomely paid in
money, &c. As much care was taken to prevent riot-
ing in the prisons as could be taken by human beings.
He wished the Hon. Gentleman to withdraw his mo-
tion.
Mr. PHILLIPS was of opinion, if the City Magis.
trates were so competent to redress the evils complain.
ed of, they ought to have supplied a remedy before.
The new jail, of which so much had been said, he
thought likely to create a greater evil than that which
it was designed to remedy. On viewing it he had
been struck with its great inferiority to many coun-
try jails. It seemed to be constructed on a plan to
exclude ventilation. The provision at present made
by the City for the support of persons in confinement,
was such that, without the aid of subscriptions from
their friends, it would not keep them alive.
Mr. WROTTESLEY had heard nothing which
did not tend to support the eloquent statement of the
Hon. Gentleman who brought forward this motion.
He believed the City meant to remedy the evils com-
plained of, and thought it would be better for them-
selves, that they should supply that remedy by the
Bill which the Hon. Gentleman proposed to bring in.
He hoped the worthy Alderman would not oppose it.
Mr. Alderman SMITH said, the Report which
had been made on this subject was erroneous in many
respects. It stated bread to be brought into the pri-
son every other day, whereas it was taken in every
morning. The regulation, made by the prisoners
themselves for garnish money, he did pot think unfair.

He hoped if the Bill was brought in those who noted
for if would find the money very necessary for cars
rying its provisions into effect.
Mr. Alderman COMI3E objected to the motion.
Mr. H. SUMNEIt had never witnessed a scene of
greater disorder than that which this prison presented
five years ago, when it was not so full as it had been
of late from the pressure of the times. He thought
the new prison very badly constructed for ventilation,
and trusted, before it was opened, another Corn dace
of that House would be appointed to inspect it, in or-
der to judge of its fitness to receive prisoners.
Mr. P. MOORE was confident the present conver-
sation would do good. As we had pined a state
of peace, he hoped there would he less occasion lot
jails than ever. (4 1..;h.) The ptoposition of the
Hon. Gentleman opprsite had been met with gre
liberality by the City Members, and he hoped ro ct
sure would be passed on them or on the City.
Mr. HO RNEIt thought his Hon. Friend cni.14.1
not have attended to what had fallen from the City
Members, or he would not have made the Hon. Ba-
ronet below him (Sir XVilliam Curtis) blush fur the
unmerited compliment he had thoueet proper ioie. -
stow. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. lliolfoi d) (e.-1 nut
propose to censure the City : the object of his ri.,•:•
was to procure something more useful than e--
redress. He hoped he would not suffer him;elt :o
be put off with fine pledges, which (without
any disrespect to any pers whatever)
through various circumstances, like mmy form-e-
-pledges, be never redeemed. He moreover trussed
he would not stop in his course tor the assurances I e
might receive of the good which this conversation
would of itself effect. The City, which conceived
itself so competent to redress, had not always caused
its orders to be attended to. In proof of this, he read
two Resolutions of the Court of Common Council,
which were passed in 1810, but which had never
been attended to. One of these ordered that the
keeper's fees should be abolished ; the other, that le.
natics should not be confined in Newgate. They
were told to wait till the new jail was fin:,.lied,
and that would do away all -cause of complaiiit.--
Would that remove all the evils which had been de-
tailed to that House ? Would that, for instance, cure
the Ordinary who had (he would not say in the
charge of his duty) deported himself so impropeily
before the Committee ? A more indecent exhibitioe
of a total want of feeling, of disregard for common
decorum, he had never witnessed. His conduct hal
been not only unbecoming a man holding the situa-
tion he filled, but such
.as was not to be expected
from a man pretending to have any regard for mo-
rality. The evidence he had given when examined
was more like the imprudent boastings of a profligate
buffoon, than the replies of a Clergyman to questions
put by a Committee of that House. If the City were
so competent to redress the evils to which the atten-
tion of the House had been drawn, ought not the
misconduct of this man to have been known to them
and to have been checked ? Ile (the Ordinary),
when interrogated on the subject of his conduct, I:ad
referred the Committee to his instructions. He rate:-
red to his instructions to defend his misconduct '--
In those instructions he was particularly charged to
attend to the table, but his instructions were not so
strict in other respects. He was asked 4. Do you
never make a report on the state of morals in the
prison ?" His answer was, "No ; I know nothing
*of the morals of the prison." When he was asked
.‘ It he were not called upon to give religious admo- •
nitions to persons confined in the prison who were
sick ?"—his answer was--“ No ; I never hear of
persons being sick till I am called upon to at-
tend their funeral." Must they wait for the
completion of the new prison before any thing
could be done with respect to this man ?—(Heaa.)
Why was not something done before ? This man had
been 16 years in their service. The manner in which
he had given his evidence proved that that conduct,
which to him appeared to be so culpable, was no tem-
porary lapse, but resulted from hardened depravity
of mind, and habitual neglect of duty. Yet the City
had overlooked for years the conduct of this man,
who, instead of being a corrector of the morals of
those confined in Newgate, would probably be found
to make them more depraved. He hoped the Hon.
Gentleman would persist in his motion, and that the
Bill would be brought in.
Sir W. CURTIS said, the conduct of the Ordi-
nary of Newgate had never been brought before the 7,41111.
City, as it had now been brought before the House.
His deportment before the Committee merited severe
reprehension.
After a few words from Mr. Alderman C. SMITH.
and Sir J. SHAW in explanation ; and from Mr. H.
THORNTON in support of the motion, leave was givers
to bring in the Bill.
HIGHWAY AND ROADS BILL.
On the motion of Mr. BYNG, for considering the
amendments made by the Lords in this Bill,
The SPEAKER said he must inform the House,
that the Lords had made an amendment respecting •
the receipt of money for tolls, with which, as it was
not their province to interfere, the Bill became inva•
lidated. It would therefore be necessary to m.lver
that the Bill be further considered this day three
months, and leave might be given to bring in a new
Bill on the subject. This was accordingly nesel
for, and agreed to.

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APPRENTICE BILL.
Mr. St. PAUL brought up the Report of the .gyp. I
prentice
Mr. P. MOORE enquired why the Bill, with 1:1
recent amendments, had not been printed as otderel
by the House ? It had been ordered to be printed (.%
the 7th of June.
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW thought such an or.' •
had not been made.
On reference to the Journals the Order could : •
be found.
Mr. P. MOORE afterwards admitted he had I,c(m
mistaken, and that it was another 13111 that had becq
ordered to be printed on that day.
Sir F. FLOOD stated it to be his intention to give
the Big no further opposition.
After a few words from Mr. PROTHERO, Mr. Al-
derman ATKINS, Mr. PHILLIPS, Mr. Wftovrposv,
Mr. TuosaPsoa, Sir J. SHAW, Mr. Rosa, and Sro R.
PEEL; the Resolutions of the Report were agreed to.
and the Bill ordered to be engrossed, and read a tho
'time to morrow.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT brought up a variety ot ri-
pen connected with the Army Services. Some Gth
Orders were disposed of, and the House.sidjourn(J.

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THE EVE?
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WEIMESDAY
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The election of M.
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Majesty.

There was a review
which created a most di
.off very peaceably at la:
belonging to the Nation
the occasion.

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the bead of the Police o
Memoirs in justificatic
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gv&d : the latter rites
acts of his administrat
chapter to the Punphl
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that M. de Bourienne is
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the British Governmt
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never consent to entail
the human race.

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of the industry with w
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respectful but firm pel
against so flagrant an
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men or English free r
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