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FRANCE,

liable to parliamentary or parochial tasation, • He '
never knew In abfurd a propofition fubmitted to Parlia-
ment, and was furprifed how it could have crept into
i fo•important a Bill. He withed for time for further
confideration, for he was really friendly to the prin-
ciples of the Bill, as far as it propofed to make a more
equitable provition for the Clergy, and would there-
fore prefer that the Bill be read a thir d time un Mon-
day, to the Noble Duke's amendment.
The Duke of NORFOLK profeffed his readinefs
to withdraw his amendment, and fuggelled whether
it would not be better to move that the debate thould
be paponed until Monday;
Lord GRANTLEY maintained that it was but
equitable that the incomes of the Clergy fhould bear
a reafonable proportion to the inereafed value of
that property upon which they were originally
chargeable.
The Bithop of ST. ASAPH fupported the argu-
ments of the Bithop of London, and contended that
the Bill was not liable to the objeaion, that it war a
violation of private property. It was but fair, be al-
iened, that the Clergy &old derive a reafonable
compenfation from the proprietors of property, the
value of which bad been increafed a hundred fold,
in' many indaacar• fine the period at which their
falaries had been eftablitbed. After Come 'further
obfervations from the Reverend Prelate, the mo-
tion for pollponing the debate until Monday was
agreed to.

IMfOLYEWT DIRTO4I
The order of the day for going into a Committee
on this Bill, was, on the motion of his Royal I-fishnets
the Duke of CLARENCE, dircharged, and the fame
was ordered to be taken into eonlidcration on Mon-
day.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
A perfea from the Tax-Oflce indented au Account alto Sale
of the Land Tax. from nth Aped tin. to sth April 1114 c viiill
certain other Accounts, which were aderol tope on the table.
A perfara frees the Ofßee of the Chief Secretor/La Ireland pro-
tected the Report of the peoccalings of the COluntiffieoers of the
Tresfury and Eacife in Ireland, Bowing the balances to the hands
et the Collators. Ordered to be printed.
The Habeas Corpus ad Teßifirandata Bill was read a third
One. mad pared.
The SECRETARY at WAR relented a Lift of ate Olken of
thit IMO Land Forces upon half pay.
, On the notion foe the third reading of the Bill for appoodri
Diners to Inquire into the Fees, Oestadee, tadWadll‘
1 nsantstaf Ofikers is Ireland, . 1
Mr. CILES laid, that lane clank ought to belntrodneed Into it.
I 11l IS windfall not tentinating thentleives in their depelidens bet
I fore the laid Cornmillieners, in the fame mama as bad been data
the proceedings talon the C.ommitßotsess of Naval Engel*
He thought that fads a deltic was fully fp neeellary is We gni
cafe as in the ether.
Mr. ALEXANDER and Mr. DICKENSON *and to kith
a dude being introduced, as they law no =aka he R. The
Clialllloll law was Isfidently esplkit upon that %idea.
Mr. JOHNSTONE laid, he would with the confidential or
the Bill lobe poftponcti, fo that a elaufe to the porpole, feudal
in the Honourable Gentleman, might be prepared. it win paw
thirty neceffary to guard the &W by et a [Patel clank, I. there- 1
feet inflame, in order to defeat the arca that might rekki tem 1
-tbe extraordinary powers of the Ceenndirtoaers. '
I On the queltion being put as to the propriety of intraataing '
I loch a dank. tt was negatived; dux which the MI waned a 1
1 third time rod pared. 1
A McKay from the Lords anacencal their Lordlhipe area In
rties Ifie of Man FisheryßA the Leather Mfanufaturers SE, tin
Tax Commiffiraers Bill, the Accountant-Gmerars Bill.
the Mery Bill, the a slo,oxil. Vote of Credit IRK the Cotten
Mainesaurire Bill, the Corn Regulation Bill, and the Weeded&
[ sad Charteton Ordnance Lando Bill.
The trim itcvenue Bill, the Ira Revenue Repletion BM, and
the Iriai Warebtwfing Bill, were learall, read a third time, had
pliffed.

COIN BIGUIATION BILL.
On the motion to take into confideration the
amendments made by the Lords in this Bill;
The SPEAKER laid. he thought it neceffary to
call the attention of the Houfe to the nature of thofe
Amendments, in order to (hew that the Upper Hoare
had infringed upon the privileges of the Commons.
In the Schedule D. of the Bill, which hated the high
and low duties to be impofed upon cord imported
into Ireland, it was declared, that if wheat be under
325. 7d. the high duties Stouts' be paid. The Lrifh
criterion was appointed, by the Commons, to be
355. 3d. The Lords had, however, thought proper
to leave out the Irifh criterion altogether, which was
laying, that the Itifh criterion Should not be the one
adopted ; a propofal which it was tit tet ly inconfifient
with the cuttom of ;be Houfe to agree to.
It was then moved, that the further confideration
of there Amendments be ponponed to ;his day three
months, which was carried new. :on.
Mr. WESTERN moved, that the revels' Reports
of the Committees appointed by the Houfe in the
prefent Sedion of Parliament, to confider of the Corn
Trade, be referred to a Committee of the whole
Hatv.e.
Mr. Alderman COMBE objected to the motion, on
account of the extraordinary aka the difenfon of
that matter had already had on the price of Corn
,hioughout the whole country. The motion was,
however, agreed to without a divifion.
PUBLIC DEBT.,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved the Order of the Day, for riiturvitoge law ad-
journed Debate on the motion as to the Public Debt ;
which having been read, he Paid, that there were ter.
tain points which he wifhed to bring into the confider.
ation of the Houle, and on which there would not
probably be any difference of opinion, though con-
fiderable minutenels of detail might be neceffary. He
therefore rather wit'aed to defer the further confider-
ation of t'e queftion till Saturday next, in order that
fame Satements might be printed previous to that day.
Agreed to.

•VVAIRS Of INDIA.
Lord CASTLEREAGH Paid, that before he
Ihould proceed to move for the prndutlion of certain
papers connected with the affairs of India, of which
he had formerly given notice, he Mould Rate fhortly
the objets of and conclufions that might be drawn
from them. In the various difeuffions that had taken
place upon this fobjeft, there appeared to him to be
no difference of opinion. which thefe papers would
not tend to filence. His objea was, to bring into
one precife account. all the leading featnres of ante-
cedent Budgets, during no leis a period that ten years,
in order that Gentlemen might have an opportunity
of comparing the eflimate of each year with the Te•
fult of the tublequent year, and detect any miftate-
ment that may have been introduced. The objec-
tions which had been Hated by Come Hon. Gentlemen
oppofite, had made him the more inclined to bring
luck Rat:ments forward, that he might flew he did
not willingly intend to deceive. It had been *Hedged,
that former Itaternents had• been falfilled by fulttft-
Tient faults. No branch of the Adminikration had

a better opportunity of contradieing fuch allege tlons.
than what lie had from the resords. He hoped, from
the cdimates and comparative refults which he wiffied
laid before the Houfe,, that the affairs of India would
be proved to have been profperous, and that India
contributed confiderably towards the refources of the
empire. Although India had been engaged for tea
years in itimoft conflant war, yet in no degree had it
become a charge upon the mother country. It had
never been alledged, however, that the accuracy of
Inch prediftions as form of thole eftimates contained.
would not be difterbed by a continual gate of war-
fare. In the year syoj, the furplus revenie was of
a defcription which gave a jolt idea of the participa-
tion, but'the refources-had been injured by the My-
fore war. The affluence' which had been given by
his Noble predeceffor (Lord Melville), as to a parti-
cipation, were referable as to peace; but the effeas
of fuch predißions were uncertain as to war. The
Noble Lord then entered into a comparifon Of the
Revenue and Charges of India for the ten years he
alluded to, during all which period there had only
been an *defiant to thefe climates of 3,300,0001.
-owinto various events which could not be forefeen.
The Mabratta war had added an expence of half a
million, which was wholly oat of view ;and the My ro re
war had (welled the expeacies above a million more,
'A part of the army tinder Gene* fWellefley had been
&bled to keep the Odd much Inuger that what had
been expeeted. In fhort, no eßimates could come
nearer to the grofs amount p and DO blameable !TUC-
Curacy could poffibly be imputed. The Noble Lord
.concluded a rather long fpgech, the whole tendency
of which was to demontirate the profperity of India.
and the accuracy of former Ratemenu, by moving—
, net there be lad before the Houle, an Account thriving the
Mouse at use abut tummies ma cameo of India for ten
= dfmmes syt ; wattle causes incurred, as to
fte each year.
Mr. JOHNS NE raid, that notwithßanding all
the Raternents made by the Noble Lord, he could
due but contend, that the whole (hewed every thing
he bad advanced on the fubjeit was ariftly true.—
After the Noble Lord bad' Made his annual Rate.
111 bent in the form' elan Indian Budget, he now came
forward with anew (et of accounts unknown to any
ins but himfelf, wish which he usoß ingeniesufly pre-
leaded to coinbat ar*Ornents urged againit the old
ones. He itionOt MO a mode, of proceeding was
=fiaineniary and %%candid. It was Ali unpre-
ted, except in one inaanee. and that was of his
predeceffor, who name to the Houle and argued
itteautinflyftom a letter of the'Duke of York, which
be had in his picket, and which nobody had fees
but hinsfalE ; Ha infiaed that. Maud of having dic.
charged fix million, as bad been pretendedc the
Company bad incurred (debt of twenty millions.—
The 14oble-Lord had rotated that, in cafe of a war,
be would difcbarge one million of the Company's
debt, and in cife of Peace two millions; inflead of
which, he has incurred a debt of 1,60ch0001. Front
the paper of the Noble Lord. it would (min as if he
had charged him. and his Noble predeceffor, with
having embezzled the money, but be had never even
dreamt of fuel a thing. He bad only charged them
with hating.llated but.A.eltimates and refults higher.
and more fitvourably than they really were. He
thought that after the Noble Lord had brought for-
ward his accounts, and then found that they did not
anfwer the argonaut of his opponents, it was uncap-
did to bring. out a new let; however, he inußed
was a clear and firiking proof of the truth of his ar-
gument. The Noble Lord now talked of the diffi-
culty of obtaining bullion, the difficulty of getting
bills, and many difficulties which he ought to hale
forefeen. So it was. that a twelee-month ago he
awed the Houfc be lhould be able to dinainifh the
debt one million ; inftead of which there was upwards
of a million of debt, and a deficiency in the revenues
of two millions three hundred thoufand poitods.
Lord CASTLEREAGH and Mr. JOHNSTONE
mutually explained.
Mr. WALLACE fopported the opinions of his
Noble Friend and his predeeetfor in office, and refer-
ring to a fpeech made by Mr. Dundas (Lord Mel.
vine) in 1793, declared that all the inferences which
had been drawn 'from a Ratement of the Company's
affairs, were like thofe which he then read. condi-
tional, 'on a fuppofition of peace, if not in Europe, at
leaß in Iniha.
Mr. JOHNSTONE infifted, that the fpeech being
fo worded, " ostlers a war (ball pervade the continent
of India," he was warranted in what he had laid, as
there were not three years of war in India during
the halt eleven.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQyER.
expreffed tome degree of furprife at bearing that the
Honourable Gentleman who (poke laft could fuppofe
that the quellioo made by his Honourable Friend,
FMr. Wallace) was a refutation of his Honourable
riend's own arguments, or thofe which had been
urged by the Noble Lord who opened the debate.—
Taefalt was undoubtedly that his Honourable Friend,
(now the Noble Lord), in the fpeech to which he al.
hided. had given his opinion„thaa " uiplefs a war oar-
raided the continent ot India within the courfe of the
Year; for' which he was then giving in the eaimate,
he did not think that there would be any ma-
terial deviation from the calculations which he had
made on the probable Rate of the Company's affairs .."1
but he had afterwards obferved in the fame fpeech,
that " if the war Ibould extend itfelf to India, it cer-
tainly would make a material alteration." This al-
teration in the finance or commerce of the Company
mutt naturally, and of courfe, be governed by the cir-
cumilances of the war which was afterwards found to
have broken out in India. There circumßances be-
ing of a molt extraordinaty nature with regard to the
expences which they created. he concluded with his
Noble Friend who this night opened the debate, that
it was a matter of furprife as well as exultation, that
the Company's expences had exceeded the eßimate
given in, in fo (mall a Turn as that which had been
mentioned. As to another point on which the Hc-
nourable Gentleman had touched, the introdutlion
of new accounts, as he had called them, he mutt
beg to inform the Honourable Gentleman that there
was nothing new to be contained in any of the ac-
counts for which his Noble Friend moved. They
were each preeifely the fame as had been read to the
Houfe each of the lalt ten years, and this was done in
one general vicar, on purpofe that it might meet the
willies of Gentlemen on the oppofite fide of the
Houfe, as they teemed on a former meet= to be par-
ticulat ly anxious to make reference to fuch a general
comparative anemic of the Rats of the Company's
affairs within that period.