Star.
London, England, 1823-05-09 00:00:00

.mttch better of their countty thin Many who r: ere
tippOidd-rintittnr- -
lItJME observed, that it was extraordinary;
Ititcl*v.eo suspicious, that a man who came there tti
Spe to a particular tonversation, should declard
that be was anOrangeman, that as such he had taken
apaitieular oath, and that he could not speak to the
tenmir of that oath. .
The witness sires then iecalled.
lly Mr. Hcita..-Witness did not atteild an Orange lodge
for four or five Months before the Jury Was tinpattelled.
Mr; Pim—Witness does not conceive, that he has taken an;
oath which prevents him from telling the whole truth.
By Sir J. Nlacgirrostr.— Witness sinet not consider any oath
he has taken a secret. The oath obliges him to keep a secret.
There were signs which he was to keep secret. Thinks it does
not bind him to keep anything else secret; hot is not positive.
By Mr. Jones.— Witness thinks Sheriff Thorpe did not 1.-.10..e
hr wag m orangemati.
'MACK 1 NTOSlt=thinUmber of witness's Lodge
1E1046. The Oath he takes binds him to be faithful to all
Orangemen, and ebb to Rosman. Catholics. Tho words thzt
hind the member to.lati:trye to Orangemen, are not the same as
thrice which hind him to be true to Roman Catholics. Does
not recollect the pieclse words. The *otds Roman Catholic
are in the oath lb a friendly sense. The oath makes it neressari
for the member to swear that he adVer Was, and is not a 17.0..
man Catholic.
Sir G. HILL complained that the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman had; iu the course of his examina-
tion of the witness, introduced .too Much argument
and observation. •
Sit J. MACKINTOSH sa'rd; he *as quite ready tri
vindicate the fitness of the course he had adopted.
He challenged objection.
Mr. DAWSON thought that the Hon. Gentleman
had rather argued with the witness. fie thought
that it was right that the House should not lose sight
of the strictest decorum in their proceedings.
Mr. SCARLETT agreed with the Hon. Member,
and begged to add that he did not think it very pro-
per that the witness should be cheered during his
examination.
'Mr. BROUGHAM would remind the House that

there was a precedent which might be quoted in ex-
tenuation of the indecorous practice of cheering a
-witness. Upon a certain ctlebraced occasion it was
!well known That after a witness had made some par-
ticular declaration, a cheer broke forth from the illus•
trious and reverend Judges—(A laugh).

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought it neces-
sary to add titat the cheer originated %s hit that pork
tion of the illustrious tribunal which his Hon. and
Learned Friend least wished to reflect cm.
The witness was then recalkd4 and stated that a person ott
becoming a Member of an Orange Lodge, must state that he is
not a Roman Catholic.

To several other questions the witness answered, that of the
fourteen Common Councilmen on the Jury, there were three
Orangemen, ten Protestant Ascendaney-men, and one whose
politics be did not know.
Being asked if he thought that drinking the " Glotious Me-
mory" was a mark of being a Protestaut Ascendancy-man?—
He said be heard it given by a Membdr of that House, Mr.
Ellis—Vl laugh).
By Sir Gismos 1-I:l2..—Witnaas believes that there eras nothing
in the oath of an Orangeman which was not already published.
Mr. Hums—Are there any contributions or quarterly pay-
ments at these Lodges?--IsTone, eaeept to defray the expenses
of the night. . _

Mr. g; Snare.--Do you know If any savings could be effected
in tkat department? (Roars of laughter.)
By Sir J. NlMPORT.—Witness was at Sheriff Tborpes din-
ner. The only pledge that Mr. Thorpe was to drink The Glo-
rious Memory, and to act in the opinion of those who made hint
SherifE He meant that part of the Common Councilmen which
were called the Glorious Memory-men. Thse is no oath be
has taken that obliges him to conceal any part of his evidence.
There was no subscription forth* traversers•in his Lodge. Wit-
ness never subscribed, and was never applied to to subscribe for
the traverser& Witness does not really know if he is a Purple
man. Does not know what a Purple man is. Mr. Stoker was
the member of the Lodge.—The witnese then withdrew.
The House resumed.—The Chairman reported progress, and
obtained leave to sit again to-morruw.
The other Orders of the Day awe then disposed of, and the
House adjourned a few minutes before One o'Cluck.

MERCHANT SEAMEN'S BIBLE SOCIETY.

Yesterday the Anniversary Meeting of the Nerehant
Seamen's Bible Society was held at the City.of Lon-
don Tavern, where the great room was filled by a
respectable assemblage of females.—Lpird" SIWOUTIE
took the Chair.

The Report was mid by the Secretary. • It stated
at great length the progress the Society had made
during last year; and the whole was highly gratifying.
Lord Rocrcsairace moved that the lirport should
be received.—lt was agreed to with much applause.
A Gent'eman addressed o.eMeeting at great length,
and contended that It was a mistake to suppose that
it would make sailors mopes and afraid of gunpowder,
if they were made religious. The contrary was proved
by the fact, that the be,t fighters had often been
the best Christians; and amongst the host, he in-
stanced Colonel GARDNER, Admiral GaNtsren, and
their present excellent Cu n %zAri—(Loard Applause).
No soldiers or sailors could be so good as those who
were constantly prepared to meetodeath, and none
could be well prepared to face the King of Terrors
who were not armed. by religion—Opplaurei.—
Sailors of a religious habit .were also more docile,
and required less rigorous restraint than others.—
There was no class of men who had such extensive
claims upon the charitable, or towards whom the
country was under greater obligations to provide for
their spiritual welfare,. Gratitude and ititrianity, as
Well as interest, were united in claimingfthe assist-
ance of mercantile men in this good stork.
The Rev. Mr. CLAYTON moved a vote of thanks
to the Noble and gallant Chairman. It was agreed
now, whatever notions might have been held formerly,
that true knowledge was a substantial good. If this
were true, then there could be no foundation in the
objection to giving light and knowledge to seamen
by the dissemination of the Scriptures. It should
also be considered, that hi making each sailer a
Christian, they made him, a:. it were, a Missionary to
convey the truth to tile most distant. parts of the
globe, where they would do is much good by their
moral example as they formenly-clid.harm by their
bad and immoral habits.
, .
The motion of Thanks was carried unanimously.
Lord Enstouns,' in returning thanks, said, that as
' the Merchants had their pockets filled by the labour
of the sailors, they ought, in gratitude, :to empty
theirs upon an occasion like the present, when the
benefit of the sailors demanded it. . .
, The hint given by the Noble Chaitopig seas not
lost, and a large subscription wastirrlde"q "
The Meeting was then dissizdvid.;:•• • •
4,4,40 In. the account of the Rile tithniefy Meeting
held at the Freemasons' Taverii, in yesterday's Paper,
for Sir C. G lc A NT read Ml'. C. GRANT.