Star.
London, England, 1809-06-08 00:00:00

The MlEtkry Comtnissiotrrs
puled; as were also the Pension.
Bill, the Colonial Penalties Bill,
the Seamen's Wages Bill.
The African Coffee Duties Bill,

read a second time, and committed
Mr. TIGHE, in consequence of
to move for certain Papers, respecting Roads,.
of Ireland.—After some discussion the motion was withdrawn.
Mr. CURWEN moved that the Report presented by Captain
Manby, on a method of saving stranded Ships, should be printed.
—Agreed to.
The Report on the Friendly Societies Bill was taken into fur-
ther consideration, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time
to-morrow.
The Irish Offices Bill, and the Irish Tontine Bill, went through
Committees. Reports to be received to-morrow, and the latter
to he read a third time.
The Report of the Irish Bog-Druinage Bill was received, and
' the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
Lord CASTLEREAGH stated, that be would have felt it to
be his dirty to have moved a Vote of Thanks for the services per-
formed against the enemy in the Basque Roads ; but from the
drcumstance of the Commander in Chief on that occasion having
demanded a Court Martial, he found it necessary to postpone the
execution of his intention for some time.
Sir F. BURDETT moved, that there be laid before the House
a Return of the Droits of the Admiralty, and the Droits of the
Crown, since the Accession of his Majesty, and of the application
of the same.—Ordcred.
Sir F. BURDETT, in consequence of an answer from Mr.
Huskisson that many reports of Medical Men sod Architects were
as yet wanting on the subject, deferred his motion respecting
Colonel Gordon's house at Chelsea.
Mr. BANK ES, after noticing that it would make no additional
expence to the country, moved for the appointment of a Select
Committee to inquire into the steps taken in consequence of the
Report made in Lune last, by the Committee upon the Improve-
ments of Westminster, and to make their observations thereon.
—The motion being agreed to, a Committee was named.
Mr. WHITBREAD observed, that a notice he hadgiven lately
in a Committee, having, from a point of order (not being given in
the House), been omitted in the order book, be had now to re-
peat it to the House. From the loss of time that had ensued from
this omission, be was aware nothing could be done at this late pe-
riod of the Session, and was therefore contented to give notice,
that he would to-morrow move for the appointment of a Coto-
Imittee to inquire into the propriety of limiting the number of
Members of Parliament holding offices under the Crown.
While upon his legs, the Hon. Gentleman wished to know if
any answer had been received from Edinburgh to the letter from
the Treasury, on the subject of premium paid on Bills from that
City on London, containing the Stamp-office remittances. He
also renewed his remarks on the employment of 26 Deputies at
the public expence of £32,000, and said if Government did not
take steps to remedy this evil, he would make it the object of a
specific motion next Session.
Mr. HUSKISSON replied, that the letter to Edinburgh had
embraced a variety of topics and inquiries, which it required some
time to answer, and u a general answer to the whole of these
points was expected, none had as yet been received. With respect
to the Deputies he had to state, that one Vacancy bad lately oc
eurred, en which the Commissioners of the Stamp Office bad been
instructed by the Government to make new regulations in that
matter, which would have the effect of remedying the evil lately
brought into notice.

Committer to: 4.
31 of those of win,
received were under
_ than the anieunt of the
labourer. The bounty in-
pay of the Clergy he then
sheaved wouldle 44) years in increasing their incomes
to seso per annum, 120 years before it increased
either to £lOO, and before it could augment them to
£l5O two centuries must elapse. While that Hoots
so liberally voted sums to beautify towns, and effect
improvements in the metropolis, he trusted they
would not be averse to granting a sum to ameliorate
ithe condition of the Clergy. He then moved as a
resolution 4, That the sum of £m,* be granted
to his. Majesty to enable him to give that sum to the
Governor and Trustees of Queen Anne's bounty for
the augmentation of the pay of the Poor Clergy, to
be by them applied to the augmentation of the pay
and the maintenance of the Poor Clergy, without
any fee or deduction whatever." This resolution
would enable them to effect in four years what other.
wise would not be accomplished in less than forty.—,
He then spoke of an intention to propose an Address
to his Majesty, praying that he would be graciously.'
pleased to order an inquiry into the state of the
Church of Scotland, as in Scotland, though there
were fewer poor livings than in England, the Church
was not supported with suitable dignity.
Lord MILTON thought that many persons holdl
ing small livings were far from being objects of chat
rity. 1 While a plurality of livings were allowed, the
nembei of the poor clergy would bear no proportioril
to the number of small livings.
Mr. S. THORNTON spoke in favour of the Re-
solution.

Mr. WILBERFORCE said, a small sum be-
stowed on the poor clergy might render many fami-
lies, now bending beneath the pressure of indigence,
comfortable and at ease, as their wishes were as cir-

cumscribed as their means. Those who valued the
established church as he did, would feel that it ought
to be rescued from a state of sordid poverty. He
was proud of such a motion being brought forward
at a period when the House of Commons was so fre-
quently -censured for granting pensions apd places.
That was a motion malevolence could not detract
from ; it was not brought forward from any interested
motive, but emanated solely from a wish to amelio-
rate the condition of those who had the strongest
claim on their humanity. It had often.beon said, &At
the poorer orders of the people had not the, means
attending public worship ; he thought it a scandal to'
the country that not more than one mit' of .ten could
be accommodated in the churches. 'Vim situated,
they ought not to be censured for Seeking relitious
instruction elsewhere. He thought some means ought
•to be devised for giving them more fully the benefit
of attending public worship.
A conversation ensued, in which Mr. Rom, Mr..
WILBERFORCE, Sir J. NEWPORT, Lord H. PETTY.
Mr. CURWEN Mr. BABINGTON, Mr. PALMER, Mr.
D. GIDDY, AT. PARNELL, Mr. D. BROWN, Lord
MILTON, dr. THOMPSON, and Sir JOHN SINCLAIR,
participated • after which
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re-
plied to the principal observations of the several
speakers. He praised the Governors and Trustees of
the Queen Ann's Bounty, who were as attentive as
any men could be to the interests of the Church.—
With respect to the circumstance of small livings
being held by those who possessed larger, he could
not think that generally the case ; it was more fre-
quently found, that two rich livings were held• by the
same individual than a large and a small one. Then•
might be such cases, but he believed them so few,
that they were not worthy of particular consideration.l
He concluded, expressing his satisfaction at the una-
nimous sentiment of the House being in favour of the
poor Clergy.
The Resolution was then put, and carried.
DR. CARTWRICHT.
The. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
rose for the purpose of proposing, that there be given
to the Rev. Dr. Cartwright some remuneration, in
consequence of the loss sustained by him in his en-
deavours to ameliorate the cotton manufactory by the
invention of looms, &c. to be be worked by ma-
chinery, which were of great and confessed utility:
The Right Honourable Gentleman, after adverting
to the memorial made on this Gentleman's behalf,
by.twenty or thirty respectable persons, stated that
fi om the evidence of a person examined before
the Committee, the Rev. Dr. Cartwright had ex-
pended no less than 30 or 40,0001. in this species of
useful improvement. He trusted the House would
evince its liberality, by representing the country in an
alt of generosity, he should not say remuneration, to
an individual, upon the ruins of whose private for•
tune the public had laid the foundation of great ad-
vantages, and not suffer him to be the victim of a
prejudice, which by ignorant persons had been shewn
towards his exertions. The Hon. Gentleman con-
cluded, by proposing the grant of 4'10,000 to the
Rev. Dr. Cartwright, as a reward of his useful la-
bour in the improvement of the cotton machinery.
• After a few words from Mr. W. SMITH, in ge-
neral testimony to the laudable exertions of the inge-
nious Doctors the sum was unanimously voted.
The following sums were likewise voted for the
purposes as specified :
For the Printing of the Journals - £3,057 1 8
For the Preservation of the Timber in the New Forest 4,500 0 0
For the Building of the Royal Naval Asylum, and the
Support of that Establishment for the year 1809 - 35,000 • 0
The Chairman brought up the Report, which was
ordered to be received td-morrow.

SEATS IN PARLIAMENT. •
Mr. CURWEN having moved the reading of the.
Order of the Day for resuming the consideration.Of
the said Bill in Committee, .the order of the day be'
ing read, the House accordingly resolved into the said',
Committee.—Many clauses were by mutual consent
of both sides, struck out of the Bill, and some others
amended.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER pro:
posed a new clause, by which the bona/de purchase
of lands, tenements, &c. under burghage tenure, should
not be considered illegal.

Mr. W. SMITH said, that whatever advantag
should be derived from this Bill, would be to
clearly what heretofore had been concealed under
mask. If any person, unacquainted previously wit
its nature, were to read the clause proposed and
Bill itself, he would not, he believed, suppose the
me; to have any connection with the latter.

801 was read a third time; and calla-the -attention of the C
Duty Bill, the Warehtnase Duty Livings of the Clergy, 113
' the Irish Distil/cries Bill, and accounts had been already
in, and Judges Salary Bill, were per annum, an income less
led 'for to-morrow. earnings of the meanest LA
of his notice of yesterday, rose tended to augment the pa
&c.?ecring Roads, in the North , thp.,,pet wnilid44 years ii