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Majesty's a.- .., necessary I.
ply to Parliament for a farther supply not only from
• the additional expeates of the public service, but also
froth others notin contemplation at the tune of the
former Loan. 'the Exchequer Bills bad beeti,issued
on as favourable terms as conld have been expected,
but certain circumstances, faeonrablelto the, public
- credit of the country, rendered it not Advisable that
the market should be stocked with them to any
great amount. Persons -holding - Eichequer Bills,
were desirous of disposing of them for the sake
Of laying out the produce in the 'Public Funds.—
Under these circumstances, it was thought necessary
that the Loan should be greater than what the cir-
cumstinces of the public service rendered absolutely ne.
cessary. A Loan, to the amount of 10 or 11 millionsa
'would hare enabled Government to carry on the bu-'
sines* of the country, till the usual period of appliea-
. ,'ton to Parliament. But, by way 'of relieving the
Eichequer Market, his Majesty's Mmisters found` it
the general opinion, that it would be better to com-
`bine two operations at once, and to raise such a sum
of money at present, as would render it. unnecessary
for some months to come before Parliament, and. -to
issue any additional Exchequer Bills. Thelon u,
therefore, amounted to the sum of twenty-tiro mil.
,lions. it elks considered advisable, under all the cir-
cumstances of this case, that a preteience should be
given to the Contractors for the last Loan, although
, they had no-right to any such preference. in conse,.
quence of aftexpress stipulation in -their contract. It
- was the interest, however, of all parties, with c view to
the consequences in the money market, that the last ,
Contractors should- have a preference. Upon these ,
principles, the transactions of that morning had taken
, place, and, he hoped, the bargain would be found
extremelYadvantageous to the Public. The amount
of the sum to be raised was, as he had already stated,
twenty-two millions, It was agreed, that for sfery
£lOO money subscribed, the contributor should be
entitled to £llO in the Three per Cents. Instead of
.the portion in the Long Annuities, as was the,case
last year, the whole of the remaining sum was taken
in the S per cent. Consolidated Annuities. Every
£lOO advanced was, therefore, entitled to eel Ur in
the Reduced, and £67 in the Consolidated Annuities.,
This, when compared, with the terms of the Loin of
last summer, would 'be found highly favourable for
the .country: 'l'he difference in favour of the country
was eight shillings and sixpence of Long Annuities,
and seven pounds in the 3 per cent. ConsoliclateJ Au.
stutters. In June last a Long Annuity of Bs. 6J. per
hundred e.vas given. The pre;ent bargain, therefore,
was more favourable by /el. 18s. per cent.: so that
nearly 2 per cent. less was given to subscribers than
' its June last. The Loan was also ih other respects
• - spore favourable. The whole amount of the annuity
„ to subscribers in June last, was 45. Ins. Al.i per cent.;
/ in the present Loan it was £5.65. 2icl: Thp bargain
of that day
.with the Contractors, therefore,. was con-
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eluded at an interest of £5.65. 24. In othet respects
the Loan was not less favourable. The estimated.
/ ' profits of last Loan amounted to + per cent.; the
estimated profits chit molting were not more than
, £3. 6s. per, cent. end the dispotiot ss. 6d, He bad
heard in the course Of the day, that the premium a
the market already amounted to S per cent. He
bad thus made a bargain which he hoped would be
. every way acceptable to the House and to the country,
He might be allowed to mention, by the bye, that the
Loan of that' day took place tinder very favourable
circumstances. Instead of forcing a Loan on the
sponigd men, several of the most respectable Gentle.
Dien of the City seemed rather anxious to force a
4,,,0an on the Ocivernment.—yhe next thing to be
considered, was the charge on the country. created by
this Loan. There was allotted to it a sinking fund
4. li per cent. in the manner pointed out by the Act j
of last year. So that in this year, without laying any
, additional burden on the Public, it would be possible ,
40 comply with that Act, and lay the foundation for '
the redemption of the debt created, in II illaiper '
highly advantageous to the Public. ' .
• ;the amount of Stock creased in thp 3 per Cent,
Reduced was ......a. ... ~ 414,300,000
In the Consolidated . • . 14,740,000
011011•11•••• •••••••••
Making together £3stplao,ooo,,
The Interest atponntcd tt ~... .... , ... ...r..,,t.„ !,163,2"0 ~
Sinking 'Fund ....... ~......,.. 584,160
C.barges pf ?deportees* . ? . . . 51,683
Making together-4e the Total.atimsel'Osffile) 41,763.981
• The interest paid on the last Loan was, as had been
stated, #6. 10s. 64. per cent. i the interest pf the
Loan of the year prikeding the laicals() exceeded that
of the present Loan, which in pointjaf terms ,was
more sasfactory than any since the year 1811„...,f1e.
fore be et down, he bad grim sitisfaction in being .
able 40 slate tq the. House, that the revenge ()rifle
1 last quarter had 'experienced a considerable increase
that quarter encoded, by 41,900,000, the revenue of
the corresponding quarter of the preceding year. -
* Several of the Resolutions resulting from the state!
f tangs in the Right lion. pentleman's speech being
put, were !greed to.
Mr. WHITBREAD, in the course of potting
used, asked If the effect of this system would not be
to take
,the whole sum required out of the Sinking
TrantiAlready created, and thus to diminish it to the
, .extent of the sum respired for the present exigencies
:of the cpupir y ?
Ur. VANSITTAR:r agreed that the measure
isistily in the firg piace,'haye this effect; but that the
'Olinal Sinking -Fend would not thereby he ulti
mislely impaired. ,
The other Resolntions were them pqt and agreed to,
and ihe Report was ordered to he received to-morrow.
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lii having moied, that the
Cnnuriittee oil the Milian
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repyt9stril his appro!
. its pAtta. It would
t. a doubt, of putting
ides' and evils ariiing
He was IStilfied, that
.fstg 10411 e .
TiOle-
` Mt fait. t.Ore.
and that the country
all the r.9.lFitt TOli,ch

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Lord CASTLE- .... occasion for' any
... arraigement. , practice,
delay. The House would be abk to judge of the though anomaloasonenn*sovel; It bad existed in
course it ought to adopt, after the Bill came out of the Irish Militia, id* 4hiM elleY were brigaded,
the Committee. He thought the matter so simple, served under Field Olikersq(lbe Line, while all the
that no difference of opinion could exist, so as to re- Militia Comitissions were *printed as ustial: and
quire a reconsideration of the measure in detail. If certainly they contributed as efficient battalions as
so, however, any minor parts would be open to con- any in the service.. He hoped, therefore, that the,
sideration in a future stage, and the measure would anomaly, though inherent in the measure, wouldnot
be better appropriated, and equally open to remark, be found in its practical details. If only one of the
after the Committee, than it was Pow. alternatives were to be resorted to, and remembering
Mr. C. W. WYNNE said, he considered, ai every which alternative would necessarily prevail, be felt
Gentleman he presumed must ,do, the present met- satisfied that the measure would notcroduce all those
sure to be utterly subversive of the first principle beneficial results which the Bill was framed with a
of the Militia Force, intended as it was for the in. view and confident expectation of producing. It!
4•11141 defence of the Country. He did not, how. would certainly fail is obtaining such a number Of'
.frtrer, say, that this was to be weighed against the men as was desired. The only thing, be apple.
advantages which were likely to "reialt to this r beaded, which they had to guard against was the,
country, and to the world at large; front the adop, exciting sompetition in the Militia, which might be
Lion of this measure at the present moment. If any injurious to the regular Army, and with that view be
-man, no doubt; were to look .to the object which • intended, when the Bill was in the Committee, et rist.
the country had its -view in the year 1756,, from pose out alteration in the rate of bounty, from whail
the formation of the Militia force, and to compare he had suggested on a former night, •::
it with the present measure, he must feel astonished The Howe then resolved into the Conunitsac
-at perceiving how essentially it was altered. At first Upon the clause being read, which empowered his
the Militia force was similar to our Volunteer force, Majesty to accept the services of threestourths of enp
and 'afterwards to our Local Militia. The persons Militia liirmyNent,
who were liable to serve in it, were not to be taken, -Mr. C. NE rose to suggest an alteration, He
for any length of time, from their usual occupations, thought, when it was considered that different ree-
-1 aiding on urgent occasions; and the only ground smuts might have different feelings upon the subject
.for taping out that- force-was, the country being in of volunteering, that in some regiments more than
imminent danger of invasion,when alone it was to three-fourths, while hi others much less than that
be embodied. The practice f requiring landed qua- number might offer their services, the consequence
lifications from Officers was now almost entirely would probably be that the aggregate number would
superseded, there being, in most: instances, more not amount to three-fourths of the whole Militia of
officers who were unqualified than who were quali the country. In that case the force would be less
fled. The Local Militia now was as the Local than was wanted, and the ineasuee would fail in pro-
Militia was then. This objectionahle service was during its full effect. He therefore thought it would
not in contemplation when the met entered into it ; be better to enlarge the proportion that Might be per.
but at the same time he (Mr..-Wynne) dit not con- witted to volunteer from each regiment.
ceive it to be so objectionable as to counterbalance ' Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that any alters-
, the advantages to he derived from it. The measure tion, such as proposed by the Honourable Member,
had his hearty support, and should have it, even if would tend to akstrarthe Militia itself, a probability
it went to entitle the country to avail itself of the ter- which, if ii&existed, would alone have discouraged
vices of the Militia to the whol extent. He had some hint (Lord Castlereagh) from prnpasing or proseeu.
observations, however, to submit on the two parts of ting his measure. His object eertanslvssasi not to
L the plan, considering, as he did, that the two methods destroy, but to keep alive the 'Oki* system, luttlis
would compete the one against the other. There securing thin object, there was no fear of impairing
would be a hardship effithe. Lieutenants in the ltc- the. effective strength of the army. li wak te be ref
gular Army in having so great a number of Cap. membered, that there were in every Militia regimen;
tiiins front the Militia plated in the Army with a certain proportion of men who were not fit to goes
Superior rank to them, but the advantage likely to foreign ervice, and he felt quite certain also, that
result from this arrangement was so great, that, on there were some officers who, Irom obvious tenons,
the whole, he could not see why their feelings would not be inclined to voluneech It was his wish,
ought not to be sacrificed in this respect to the public therefore, to ciontult at once the fair. freedom' of the
advantage. The part to which he feltahe strongest service, and the preservation of the Militia, which he
objection, was that which . regarded the provisional believed to be interwoven with the fundamental secu.
battalions, where an interest and a feeling was given rities of the country. As the clause originally stood,
to the men in support of the one plan, and to the it left an alternative, between three-fourths of the Mi.
Officers in support of the other plan ; so that a can- litia of a county, or of a shtick regiment $ but he had
r.eassing, as it were, might be expected to take *';ice now struck out that alternative, and confined the pro-
' between the one species of service and the other ; and portion only to single regiments.
he would not be surprised, the advantage to the Ciffi. Mr. WYNNE suggested, that a proportion of four-
. cer was io great in the one way more than in the other, fifths of each regiment would be mere likely to ren-
that an additional bounty were offered by the Officers der the clause as effective al possible. '
Ito the men, to induce them to extend their services The words " Militia of any County, Riding, etc."
into the. Regular Army. On the other hand, where were then omitted, and the following substituted:—
the Militia Officers were anxious to form provisional " not exceeding in any case three-fourths of the number
battalions, he was afraid the present measure furnish. actually serving in any regiment, battalion, or corps."
ed ahem with inducements to lay temptations in the The next material alteration in the Bill related to
way of the men to withhold - the more extended line the rate of bounty. Lord CASTLERZAGH proposed,
of service. He was also afraid, that Officers-serving that the clause should be altered so as to allow only
in those provisional battalions might lose their an. eight guineas instead of ten to those who volunteered
fluence in the counties to which they belonged s and, for European service, and retaining all theft ;trial.
Ito Field officers belonging to the Militia, most of leges as Militiamen. The proportion between des,
whom were men of large-fortunes, the offer of half. different descriptions of service, accnrdingto his mi.',
pay would be found to be a very inadequate bait; a gfinal view of the bounties, he felt aware was not suf.'
better and more effectual inducement to such men, ficient 1.- this reduction would render that proportion
he thought, would be the holding out some honorary more conformable to what it should be, though he
Mark of distinction. These were his ideas on the doubted whether even eight guineas for the first de-
subject. He was afraid of the two plans clashing scription Of service might not be found too high. He
with each other. - was quite satisfied, however, that more than eiglm
I Lord CASTLEREAGH agreed, that the Hon. ought not to be given; and in filling tip the bhudi
and Learned Gentleman had stated the case fairly, with that sum, it was not intended that it should hi
though he presumed to think he had gone into it mandatory on the part of Government to give Is
more in detail than was at present necessary. He much ; Only to provide, that in no case that WI
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begged, however, to say a few words in answer to should be exceeded.
what had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman, who On the clause which related to die number of *
seemed to think that it would have been better had I Militia that were to be permitted to volunteer,
he confined his measure to one of the two plans, in. Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that many
stead of extending it to both. He (Lord Castlereagh) Honourable Members seemed to be of opinion that the
however, considered the second part of the plaq 46 i proposed measure was not sufficiently extensive. H,4
auxiliary to the former part rather than otherwise..., I Wail anxious to state the reasons by which be had bus
He believed the Hon. Gentleman had over estimated induced not to push it further at the present nzontent:
the influence of the officers over the men. Those wbq ' On referring to the amount of men now owing from
knew the Militia-men 1,1 general, best knew that they ! the Militia to the Line,. it would appear that the
were not above a certain measure influenced by the' number was a 767. This deficiency chiefly existed is
advice of their officers.. _He did not see how It could ' Ireland i is which coenara. In consequence of the
have been possible. .preiery ing due regard for the i I
number of married men that were in the militia, and
feeliegs of the officers ia. the army, to have introduc. i of other circumstances, the impediments to carrying
id among them oiEcers from the Militia with higher into effect the volunteering
.fism the Militia into the
rank thaq that of Car tain ; and the bounty already Line were greater than in Great Britain. The
given to enlist from the Militia iato the army was so ground on which be conceived it not expedient to
nearly or equal to that now proposed, that he was push the present measure further, than by filling up
afraid the present measure would be ineffectual, : the blanks of the Bill with men, 28,750 be-
without some supplemental, or extraordinary induce. ; ing the amount of the doublequota and ar.ears
ment, such .IS. those now held out. If he had not held : (besides the Officers and non-commissioned officers),
out the dirt ,tlt species of inducements proposed by was, that it was not desirable to do so, until -there
the present measure, he could not assure himself that was reason to believe that a greater force could he ad-
he should' ,c, able to raise the force be expected.-- vantageonsly used. Unless this was previously ascer.
He felt ,`:spored to keep the bounties low, particu. -taieed, it would be unnecessary IQ put the country to
lady af, .t.was necessary to preserve a distinction be- an expence, larger than that whi2h.our view of tr.ili-
tween the bounties for the Army and the Militia; tart' policy seemed to demand. Not foreseeing each a
but, on the other hand, there were advantages at. necessity. it did not appear to him advisable to re.
tached to the Militia, of which if the men now in that commend Parliament to allow a greater scope to the
force were to be deprived by extendinn their service, impulse of the militia to volunteer for foreign service.
he could not expect that they would be prevailed on ..-The assistance which the number to which it- was
to do so. This, to a peculiar manner, applied to the Proposed to limit the Bill before the Committee would
militia of Ireland and Scotland, many of whom were afford, would be most powerful. On a recent occa-
married men, and who would lose the provisions at sion he had stated its probable amount—namely,
present enjoyed by their wives and families, We ate: covering the waste of the ensuing year, about
they to enter into the army. It had been much cis- 15 or 20,000 men. He meant that, supposing the
cussed, whether it might not expedieqt to allow
Militiamen to volunteer waste of the British army not to exceed in the crisping
be
into the Line, still preser. campaign that which it had been in the present, we
ring for their wives and families the peculiar ad. should close at the end of the campaign with 15 or
mirages which, as Militiamen, they at present en. 9C0,000 men more than we now
iciyed t but, 4sri• due cputhideratiegt it. was-deemed
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that it would not be advantageons . . also the less indeced to push the measure f th.".•
possessed. He was
sr—. dt 1
tq intrndqce into ?fete*, by the tonsideration that the Bill would not
thp Line a species of lime differfni from go Line preY.C4 01; operation in the year 181. 46 ' ' 1
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front .the le'rtiet to tboLioe. He would.
gaff Move to fiU up the Musk in the Bill with
number “ 30,000."
titer a few uteds from Mr. WYNN; the motion
te.
ITBREAD begged to move as an amend.
2 introductkm oft urethieh, consi.
the observation; made by * Noble Lord op.
posite, on a. recent occasion, lie 60• ed to say, that
there would be no oWection. it was, to state that
the Object of dui measure was efts being tbe contest in
which we were engaged to a speedy and htippy con-
clusion, and to obtain the blessings of
Lord CASTLIEREAGH admitted, that he bad
said that which was the conviction of his mind,
namely—that peace was the only legitimate and jus-
tifiable object of all war; but he should certaiuly
lett to the iatrodution of the particular words moved
rot by the /lon. Gentleman, beause that would im.
ply that the other measures of Parliament had not
bnen adopted is the same spirit. It was to protect
Parliament from that imputatiou that be must de.
dine acceding to the !macadamia of the Honourable.
Gentleman. •

Mr. WHITBR.EAI~ said. that he would sot press
his amendment at present, but that op the Report he
would ello,t it. in order that, should it Or aimed by
Ow Hare, it might be entered on the Journals.
The House was thse resnnsed, and she Report was
toriered to be received to-morrow.
-The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHgQUER.
4tifillisting to-various Acts which had been affected

tise.re'newal, iq the last ieision, of the Charter to
the Lin Inch Ceaspany, gave notice that be would.
tomorrow, move that the House should resolve itself
into a 00111111ittet to consider the said Acts. _

The Indemnity Bill was read a 'woad faue, a 4
°Ages! gbe committed to-asorrow.-,-441coraed.

fRENCM PAPRM,
r411.1U8, INVIIIM
Tilscharoes of artillery have announced this not,
Ing, to the inhabitants of Paris, the return Ohio kfs.
Lusty the Emperor and Kings
;The Senate batten extrnordinnrY IneetinS to-dar,
At two o'clock, under the Fresideocy of his Serene
Ilfthneea the PriAce 1410-chanceltori -
His Majesty b King of Weepholie 41IeiTed
Cologne.os the lit klortelther,_
lictY4Clr,-Hie. Majesty the Emilleir *river; yes.
terday, the letb, m five o'clock in die aftemoon, at
lit! Clot* Majesty ieft Maroon on the 11141 at
*Pr e'c4O4 in the morning, • .
TAetllt POrnlailt I.
Iler West/tbp giliffus4oo4li nod Le* has
sueeiyed the following accounts; of ifto situation of fir
Army attire Sd of November
« Oa the 50th ;lender,' at the murmur Am the
battle nf Hamm was delivered, General Lattice% at
the bead of his division of cavalry, and If 64 sth
corps of cavalry, commanded by Gisteral Milhaud,
Banked all the right of the army, on * side of
Bruckoebel and Nieder4ningheirn. He firond hint
elf ip MINIM fi it corps Of geSSiiii and 441114 ca,
"airy of from sea to seven thousand mu com-
bat commenced; several *nee, 11# to our *Was.
tags, took place and this memrs car formed by
the junction of two be three prtizaus wee heoleso and
briskly pursied. We took from it 150 !pawned 0-
:goer', Our loss consisted f about Saulen wounded.
if The day following the battle of Hamm, the
enemy was in full retreat. The emperor did not
wish to pursue him, the army being fadgoed ; and
his Majesty, far from attaching aay importance,
could only have seen with regret the destruction of
four or five thousand Baimieas, which would hive
been the result of that pursuit. His Majesty, there-
fore, contented himself with causing the enemy's
rear-guard to be slightly Plirgl‘d and k 4 QOM,
Bertrand orr the ;Cave* river,
44 About three &clock in the afternoon, theenmap
knowing that the army had filed, retraced his steps,
hoping to obtain some adventalre over Peneral *V-
wand's corps,
is The divisions Moraud and Guiliano allowed
him to make hit preparations far the Qatar of the
Kentsig, and when he had. passed it marched upon
!him with-fised bayopets, and drove bin; into the Ri-
ver, where thp pester part of his people were drown-
ed, The enemy inn 8000 men h this affair.
" The Bavarian General Wrede, CoarnuMder-in-
Chief of that artnYl.llllB Wei) mortally Wollndedi
it is remarkable, that all the relations which be had
io the army perished in the battle of NEW i woos
others,bis con-in/law the Prime of Bitting's,
" A Ilavarian-Austrian division entered Frankfort
on the SOth, at noon ; hot opod the approach of the
scouts of the French army, it retired upon the left
bank of the Mein, after having destroyed the bridge?
" On the 2d November, the french near-guard
evacuated Frankfort, and marched upon the Nidda-
-44 The :rune day, at five o'clock in the morning,
the Emperor entered blaygnce.
ig It is supposed among the people, that General
Wrede pas been the ;other and principal agent of
the defection of Bavaria. That General had been
loaded wick favours by the Emperor."

PARIS, MDVIEMIIER 9.
ger Majesty the Empress-Queen and Regent has
received the following accounts of the situation of the
Army on the 7th November •
•4 The Duke of Tarente was at Cologns, where he
was organizing an army for the defence of the Lower
Rhine. The Duke of Reguse wsts at Mayence.
gg' The Duke of Belluno was at strashorg.
44. The Duke of Valmy had gone to take at Metz
t!styopimind pf au the reserve*.
4f Count Bertrand; with the fourth corps, com-
p* of four divisions of infanta►, and a division et

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course of the yearinsiglst'rensirerianecasaary to asiopi, -These being- his idea ; - subject of' tbe •.,..- Vn i. dos account, it Ilia - enfenstagy Mort therefore,
—lt had been said; howeverf-tis the Contractors, that ' meaourei be envie -din House and .• ~.,. :• • sto establish • battalions, the numb
it .was iselicied such at& s had-been granted by, Par- 9n the probability of its 'tig petted into a lei*. .:.• ' ' -Wiiiii. rd to the anounlyal ions being After s
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Lament as would. in all probability be adequate to the. - Mr. C. -W. WYNNg sesk-if at delay was to take gff by persons appelitstad" ' tar
.by the was agree
ixigencies.- of the public , service,
,Some time before
_jplace after the Bill had gone through the Committee, Crown, and in others by tbo Lipid ALisatiollnts of Mr.
. - the meeting _of Parliament it became qbviOus to 'his for Se pOrpose of discussing the principle of the met- 'Countiet, he admitted tha statesnentis•be. correct, ment the
Majesty's Ministers, thee it would be necessary to ap. sure, as much would depend upon the detail ? ' ' but at' he same time contnnastl. that no ill effects re- , dering th
ply to ?ornament for a farther supply not only from Lord: CASTLEREAGH saw no occasion fcir any suited frOm :deb an artailitm !pt. _ The practice, poote, of

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MILITIA VOLUN TIMM!
/ • I.;ord COTLEREAGH Ipss,
}loose dp iepiye into. a Corms
V9lunteeringl3lll;
gr:wHiTspEp nEENt
ittiel!i of the present Pill! in at
hityo ike effect, tliore,cp4l4 not b.
xd eqcfto Via inconveniencii
kr!) qs47, of sfiltS;
Eitttrleti *el toi
Loot measure, would be reab:pecl,
s,cig4fia.4 the Laeal MPi!ii a