Star.
London, England, 1807-08-11 00:00:00

A I.TONA, .ITTOUST 4.

There if. a rep:a-t that I.is ltnprial Highnefs the
Grand Duke of Wurt7h,op,h will be mad:: King of
Fraucoi.ia, atoi that A nip:tch. Narer.burgh, Bam.
b:rg, and 13.ireti:!). will be added t r hi. territory.
We ha 4 11 tiered ourfelves that the calamities of
war would :oon terminate in Swedifh Pomerania, but
this hope is n-t yet realised.
Assn' dine to the reports we have here, the fir f}
afftmisly of the c.,nfederation of the IZyitte will be
immediately held at Fraukiert.

PARLIAMENTART PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE. OF LORD::, MONDAY, AUGUST io.

The Irith Salt Duty, Curates' Relief and General Delancey's
Fftate Bills, were brought up from the Commons, and read a firs
time

A Mort converfatinn tank place on the firft reading of the Co
rates' Relief Bill, in cons cpwricepf the Duke of NORFOLK intimat-
ing that ht fhould.move to poilpone the fecond reading fur three
mo-ths; but on an extianation from Lord SIDAIOUTH and the
I ORD CHANCELLOR, that the objedt of the Bill waa POI to enadt
new law, but to fufpend till 23 days after the meeting of next Par-
liament the penalties a•tached to Beneficed Clerytymen who had
accepted certain defcriptiors of Curacio, the Noble Duke fignified
that he ihould not ptrfi:t in his intended motion.
_ _

The Duke of NORFOLK moved, that the Re-
port of the Bill for augmenting the flipend of the
Red. r of St. George the Martyr, Southwark, be
taken into c-nfideration, with the view of propofing
that the Bill fh .ulrl be rejeeted. He it7peated his ob-
jetlions to ;tie ground (fated in the preamble, name-
ly, the increafed price of provilions, as-being equally
applicable to scoo parifhes in this country. He
fhould be glad t -) fee fame general meafure of relief
introduced ; but loch a Bill as the prefent, operating
partially, he regarded as an unjuft encroachment on
the private property of the parifhioners. Had the
meafure, as formerly reprefented, been the refult of
the fuffrages of a great maiority of the parifhioners,
he might be induced to withdraw any oppofition to
it, on the c, ndition that fuch content fhould be al-
ledged in the preamble. But, on inquiry, he found
that dye parifh by no means, generally, approved of
the meafure. Of this, fufficient evidence was Rated
on the face of the Report.
The LORD CHANCELLOR reminded the
Houle of what he had Paid two years luxe with re-
' fpeel to the London Clergy Relief Bill, to thew that he
was alive to the impropriety of palling partial mea-
fares of this defcription. He certainly underflood,
that the relent Bill was brought forward with the
content of the parifh. He had not had leifure to
per ufe the Report, and he only requefted time to fee
what evidence bad come our before the Committee.

The A RC HBISHOPof CANTERBURY thought
that the Lill fhould not proceed, unl!fs it had the ge-
neral approbation of the patilhioners, of which he
expreffed Tome doubts. However defirous to pro-
mote the interests of the Clergy, he certainly could
not approve of any thing which trenched nn the pro-
rerty cf the laity, any more than he caul(' aftent to
a meafure which fhould have the effeit of infringing
the 'pa rights c.f the Clergy.
The Duke of NORFOLK contented to withdraw
his motion.

The LORD CHANCELLOR brought in a Bill
for the better adminiltration of Juilice in Scotland.
He briefly Itated the pcints in which it differed from
the projed of the late Minifters, the chief variation
being that of dividing the Court of Segion into two
intlead of three Chambers. His only objeet at pre-
fent was, that it Ihould be read a firlt time and then
printed, and circulated for the opinion of thofe who
were chiefly intorefled in it.

Lord SELKIRK took occafion to flare generally
his views of what alterations wcre moll eligible in
the aiminifitation of juflice in Scotland. He de-
cidedly approved of the divifion into three Chambers.
_ _

Lord LAUDERDALE faid, he had received pe,
titions from the Corporation of Glafgow, praying
for the extedion to Scotland of the Trial by Jury, in
civil cafes. He was not aware that the Bill would
be introduced this evening, otherwife he would have
beca prepared to prefent thole petitions. The Bill
was read a fira time. •

Lord STANHOPE laid, that previous to tbeir
Lord(hips' going into the Order of the Day, he
uld trouble them with giving notice of a motion
on a fobjeet, even of far greater importance than
the order of the day. His motion related to the
fitnation in which we flood with regard to North
America. It he fhould underhand that any Noble
Lord, high in his Majefly', Councils, law the matter
in the fame light as he did, he would not perlift in
his notice. His Lordfhip having enlarged fomewhat
farther on the importance, at this critical moment,
of preferving our conneetion with America, and
cherifhing the molt friendly intercourfe with all neu-
tral nations, Rated that his intended motion was to
this effect: Refolved, that the principle of equality
and complete reciprocity lhould regulate the conduCt
of this country with regard to neutral States, and
with all nations with whom we were at peace."
Here his Lordfhip paufeJ for a few feconds, in the
expeaation of fbme remark from the Noble Lords on
the Ministerial bench, but none of them baying rifen,
he gave notice, that he &bold bring on his motion
on Thurfday, for which, day the Houk was ordered
to be fummoned.

MILITIA TRANIfTPIt CLL.
On the Order of the 1) t v for the tecond reading of
the Militia Transfer Bull being read,
Lord HAWKESBURY rofe, and, in his -exor-
dium, took a curfory view of the pollure of Europe,
under the late chances, and its prefent notation, as
.Iffened by the battles of Jena and Friedland, and
by the peace of Tilfit. From evety rational con-
templa.ion of the fubjeft, whatever doubts might be
entertained in other refpeels, it was perfdtly clear
that the dangers to which this country was n w ex-
pofe.l front continental hodility, was greater than at
any former period and it was far from being con.
folatory to relief), that when a greater force WAS
required for the public defence, the military nrength
of the empire was inferior not only to what it ought
to have hem, hut to its aelual condition at a very
recent date. In addition to this circumflance, it was
to be recolleBed, that a confiderable portion of the
difpolable force was engaged on remote fervice. In
Inch a predicament, it was neceffary to take imme-
diate Reps for the increafe of the Regular Army;
and if, to effeel this important purpnfe, it were in-
evitable to have recourfe to compulflon, coercive
expedients fhnuld be retorted to in a manner that
would he lead oppreflive ta the people. The ordi-
nary recruiting was wholly inadequate to produce
the augmentation required : it could indeed hardly
be deemed competent to meet the annual deficit,
efpecially when the foreign fervices were adver•ed to.
From June 1805 to June 18c6, the number thus ob-
tained was 20,130 ; from June 1806 to June 1807,
the number was only 17,713, making a deficiency
in the comparifon of the two years met iting particu-
lar attention. It was true, that, forming the eiii-
mate in the fame year from June iBo6 to January
1807, and onward to June again, the number was
in favour of the latter: in the one, 10,783, its the
other, 11,412 were railed. The ratio was again le-
verfed, and the former had the advantage, if the
number of boys were included in the computation.
Whea the extraordinary exertions in the fervice were
taken into the account, by the prodigitsus increafe in
the number of recruiting parties, a confiderable aug-
mentation would have been no matter of alionifh
ment ; and particularly when it was remembered that
threats were employed, that if the fecund battalions
did not produce a certain number fpecified, they
would be reduced. One boafted effea of the late
regulations was, that defertions would be diminifhed;
this, however, was not the truth ; Come difference in
the number of deferters had occurred, but it was
againft the late fyftem of reform. In jutlice to thole
who recommended the alterations, it mud be ac-
knowledged, that they did not pretend it would
produce any fudden change ; they look,:d more to
the p rmanent than to the immediate effeel. In this
condition of public affairs, and in fuch a fituation of
military arrangement, it was abfolutely neceffary that
tome great effort fhould be made, either by Come
new meafure, or by relenting to Come former projcel,
conducive to the augmentation required. There
were but two meafures that occurred to his Majedy's
Miniders, and they had been maturely confidered ;
the one was to open the Regular Army to the Mili:ia,
and the other to refort to the Army of Referee Bill j
of 1803. The former appeared to him to be the
more wife plan, and by it 38,0ca0 men would be
added to the. Line, perfectly competent to difcharge
the duties which would he there required.: His Lord-
fhip here Rated the general fcheme of the Bill, which
we have before detailed, by which 36,000 men were
to be railed for Great Britain, and 8000 for Ireland.
He next adverted to the Volunteer force, and con-
tended that the additional allowances propofed were
nectfraty to maintain its ltrength. Infinding Officers
were indifpenfable to the difcipline and orgar ization
of !rich a body; and in the moment of danger, it
could not be employed with any Comparative ad-
vantage, unlefs Government could receive informa-
tion from loch perfons, on the dirdlion that Mould
be given to their fervices. Such was the arrange.
ment in Ireland, where the Yeomanry, a molt re
fpdlable corps, had their Brigade Majors to fulfil
the like duties. It was not only material to give
' prefent encouragement to the Volunteers, hut it was
deniable that they fhould be formed into a perma-
nent fyflem. Some method mutt be ad 'red, by
iwhich the great mafs of the population of ole king-
idom (hould be converted into a military body, and
Ifor this pnrpofe it might be difcreet to provide that
where the number of Volunteers did not equal fix
times the number of the Militia, the Training A a
fhnuld be put in force. His Lordfhip concluded
with fume general obfervations on the utility and im-
portance of the Bill, and with infilling on the pro-
priety of giving the men enlifling into the army the
(lotion either of entering for limited or unlimited
duty, which would fecure every poffible advantage,
without involving all the mifchief incident to the
former.

Lord SIDMOUTH perfeelly concurred with the
Noble Baron, that the ordinary recruiting would be
wholly inadequate to meet the prefent exigency of
the times. He all() agreed that fume compedfory
meafirre would be necefrary, to place the force of the
country on a proper eflabliffiment. But while he
united in fentiment thus far, he with regret acknnw.
ledged that the plan proposed was not commenfurate
to the difficulties with which we had to encounter.
The main objeCt of his Noble Friend was to aug.
ment the difpofable force ; but in his own mind it '
was much more effential to provide for internal de-
fence. He feemed to contemplate a remote danger
only, when there exifled that which was preffing and
immediate ; and the more fo, becaufe the military
firength of the empire had been cunfiderably dimi-
niffied. In 1804 there were 182,000 difciplined CU-
diets, 5000 fea fencibles, and 4t0.0f'.0 volunteers.—
From the Chores of the Elbe to the fouthern extremity
of Europe, Napoleon was Row mailer of tiro whole
maritime power of the Continent—fuck a fituation
called for exertion, Toto ammo, tot° corpore regni."—
Was the prefent meafure in any degree calculated to
anfwer that demand ? By this !theme, 28,000 men
were to enter the army from the militia ; the ballot
was to be for 44,000-36,000 for Britain, Soco for
Ireland. Two years ago, 17,000 were required from
the militia, and only 14,000 were obtained ; yet now
it was expeCteel to acquire 28,c00, arid from only
77,000 militia. The probability was, that the con
tlitutional defence of the realm would be difturbed,
without completing the °hie& for which it was dif-
organifed. On three occasions, the Militia Officers
had been called neon to refign their men for the re
gular fervice, and they had done it in a manner that

!conferred non then the Mghefl k
molt oppreffive la their honourable fee:inzs to
called upon to make Inch a 'facrtfice. when. inlea,!,-
prom-ring, it would diminifh the ces of n trio; at
defence.
I,:gri,e.arctevaartre,7iircier:t
rte.
• CACiia.t
tionson A!te
the
ttractentoefritnhgeirrinr:b
ri,,ds, his Lordfhip recommended irlcr totfulg ,h;
army by railing men for rank, no: adeni 6.1 tu,=.
pet kneed youths to the ra k of Lieutenant C d Tel.
but-admitting officers to advance one tiep. He !heti
Proceeded to lliew thf utility of the Army of Refine
Al, and the policy of retorting to the principle 01 it
in cafes of extraordinary emergency. W. 1% it out
right now to adopt the Training Aft, or lime mea,
lure that would convert the great mars of our en.,it
adult population to Ole one pole t:f defence ? Wasmt
theidanger imminent ? Lo k to the ravidity of the eta.
my. The French at mks traverfed &none fr.rn the
Maine and the Rhine to the banks of the Viflula, in
the fhwt (race of two months, and, in their progreft;
clothed one of the pre.trelt military powers co the
Continent. On a former occaftor., in ne
they advanced horn their own confines to Ulm, arte
in five weeks a force confillittg of Lighty thutifuld
Aullrians was extinguilbed. The ai.iurtach of thi
winter was no fecritity to us ; able r•ficers of rhE
navy had laid it was the molt favourable for invafi
His Lordfhip concluded with making a general cent
puration of the forces now hovering ove the opp.
Site coafl, ani of the numbers which would f .on be
affembled, adding that he was not dircuuraged by
thole multitudes: the Englifh were a high fririted
and loyal people, but f,me more politic ezdedientt
than were propofed by this Bill molt be adopted, to
organize the national arrow'', before, at fuch a chilli
we could expea fectirit v.

Lord BORINGDON replied to the ollervatimis
of the laIL speaker, and a.iproved of ttte principle of
the Bill as offering the Intl means of 1'11;11% ing a
large force in a limited time, lie aifappri,ved, hew.
ever, of that clank in the Bill, which did away one
of the greatefl improvement• that had hcen yet in.
troduced into the military fet vice of the country,
that of enlitlment fir term of years.

Lord DE DUNSTANVILLE, though not in the
habit of agreeing with Minifters, returned his thanks
to them for cowing forward with any roe:dine h.ch
they conceived would be advantageous for the cowl..
try. He could not, however, avoid expreging his
difapprobation of that clanfe in the Bill, wlich left
it at the option of the man balloted f it the to
enlitt in the regular army. He would have prefetted
the Army of RJerve A& to the relent meafine,
lord SELKIRK difappt oved of the meafure, as
wholly inadequate to the gigantic magnitude of the
danger by which we wet e menaced. He was of opini n
that the Levy en Male At would have hem a much
tore efficacious'tineafure, and he withei reecutfe
were had to it.

The queflion having been put, that the Bill be
read a fecond time, a divition took place.
Contents 42—Non contents Is—Majority 27.
The Appropriation Bill was brought up from the
Commons by Mr. Hobhoufe and others, and reads
&fit time.

The It ifh Militia Transfer Bill was read a feconcl
time.

During the preclufion of flrangers, we undetfland,
that on the motion of Lord Hawkefbnry, the IRA
Arms Bill was read the fecund time ; and it was
agreed that the debate thereon should take place en
the queflion for going into the Committee to morrow,
—Adjourned.