Star.
London, England, 1807-03-05 00:00:00

MR. WINDHAM.

Sir J. H. COX role, purfuant to notict, to move
for difeharging the Order made yellerday for taking
Mr. Windham into cullody. He Bated, that the
Right Hon. Gentleman had left town in order to il'e
exercife of an important conftitutional framehife ; and
after he had fo ciiitted London, he met with other
urgent matte':, which required his immediate atten-
tion. indeed Mr. W. had communicated his indif
penfable Abfolte to the Noble Lord (Howick) ; but
that Nol.le Lltd teemed to have entitely furg,tten
that circurnitance. He then moved, that the Ot der
be dila:4r ged.
After a few words from Mr. CANNING, and Slr
J. H. COX, in explana• ion, and Mr. WHITBREAD
4,ainft the rtintir.n, the que Ilion was put, when it
plied in the negative without a divition.
LOAN

On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQIIE:R the lirnre weot into a C,,mmittee
of Ways and Meanc. In the Cong.liztee, the Chan-
ctllor of the Exciaequer obfetve.2, that he thauLh:

it proper only fhortly to recapitulate what he had be•
fore Paid, on the fubjeft of the Finances. The
Noble Lord Rated, that there was Game variation of
his former flatement, owing, to the excels of extraor-
dinaries for !Soo, which, as the accounts had not been
made up at that time, he had not then the means of
calculating upon. As there was nn reafonable hopes
of a reduaion, this excels, amounting to 793,710!.
he would add to the Extraordinaries of the prefent
year. Though this charge, however, was fo much
greater than he had calculated, llill the Ways and
Means were competent to meet it. his Lordfhip
then if aced the Supplies and the Ways and Means, as
fellows : SUtPLIES, 1807.
Navy • - - 16177,837
Army • -.- 29,809,0a1
Ordnance - - 3.743,716
NfilkeMnenu% - - 1,866,0=

Vote of Crttlit - - 3,000,000
• Total Joint Charge - 45,396,575
fRPARAIL CHARGES. GREAT BRITAIN.
Deficiency of Malt 1805 - 200.000
intend on Exchequer Bills, 1807 ra.mcoo
Five per Cent.E.l797 to be paid off 350,000

1.750,040
Total Supplies - 47.146 575
Deena. kith Proportion of Joint Charge and Civil Lill 5.545,677
On Account of Great Britain 41,600,898
WAYS AND MEANSI 1807.
Malt Duty, Petifions, &c. . -
Surplus Confolldated Fund . -
War Tax - -
-
- Lottery -
Exchequer Bills on Vote of Credit -
Loan -
Surplus Ways and Means, 1806

Amount of Supplies as above
Surplus Ways and Means

2010,000
31500P00
19,800,000
350,00
3,01 0,000
12,100A00
171,185
415771,185
41,600,898
170,287

In adverting to the Loan, he obferved, that the
Contractors for every tool. advanced were to have
731. three per cent. confals, 701. three per cent. re.
duced, and tot. t as. navy five per cents. The intereft
on every too'•. was 41. 145. 7d. The terms, therefore,
were uncommonly advantageous for the Country.
The intereft of the Loan for the laft year, which had
been re.koned highly advantageous, was, as the
Houle would recoiled, 41. 195. 7d. on the tool. ;
there was, therefore, on the Loan of the prefent year,
a difference in favour of the public of 55. per cent.
His Lordfhip briefly con p ,red the amount of the
Supplies, exclufive of Extraordinarie?, Siibfidies, &c.
and of Ways and Means, exclufive of the annual taxes,
the refult of wh'cli comparifon was, that there re.
mained a confiderable furplus of Ways and Means.
Fro; the whole, he concluded that he was fully war-
ranted in the criterion of 32 millions as the permanent
war expenditure, which he had taken as the founda-
tion of the plan which It! had on a former occafion
detailed to the Houle. He then moved that the fum
of 14,z00,0001. be raifed by annuities for the fervice
9f England and Ireland for the year 1807.
Mr. ROSE contended that there was a fallacy in the
Noble Lord's criterion of expenditure, as taking the
Loan and Vote of Credit together there would be
borrowed fifteen millions inflead of twelve millions
odd, which latterfum was that which the Noble Lord
had calculated upon.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
appealed to the Houfe, whether he had not, in bring-
ing forward his plan, pofitively and dillinely
that the war expenditure of 3z,000,0001. was the fum
mentioned, with the exprels exception of tubfidies,
and the price of llores and other articles which might
neceffirily be fuppofed to rife in value during the
continuance of the war.

Mr. ROSE Paid, that fincethe Noble Lord brought
forward his plan of Finance, a fubfidy had been
granted by his Ma jefiy's Minilter abroad of 80,0001.
and in conftquencey the Noble Lord had come to the
Houle with a demand of 3,000,0001. This he com•
plained of as a miliake of 3,000,0001. not at all ac-
counted for but by the fublidy to Italia, and that of
80,0001. to Pruffia. He knew at the time it would
be fo, and he begged the Houle to recoiled that he
had advifei the Noble Lord net to confine his expen-
diture to 32,000,0001.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
laid, the ilatement he had made was 32,000,0001.
exclufive of fubfidies, and articles riling in their
value ; and if he had come down fur 3,000,0001. in.
liead of 80,0001. fill that would make no difference
as to the plan of Finance. With regard to principles,
he had aded aridly according to the plan ; and not-
withflanding the Extraordinaries, which he had fated
to the amount of upwards of 700,0001. he would Rill
be enabled to bring the adual expenditure within
38,500,0031.
Mr. ROSE fail, the increafe of 3,000,0001. was
not accounted for in any other way than by the Sub-
tidy of 80,0001. exceeding the price of extraordinary
articles. When the Noble Lord Hived the Ways and
Means, he mentioned that t z,000,0001. would be
wanted as a Loan. It appeared now to be 15,000,0001.
and whenever the matter came to be difcuffed, it
would appear that the loan would amount-to that fum.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
infilled it would not.

Mr. FELLOWES Lid, that as a plain country
gentleman he would hate what he tecolle4ted on the
fuhje& He underitood the Noble Lord to fay the
Loan would be ta,ooo,cool. exclufive of SubfidieF.
Mr. ROSE afked if the Hon. Member fuppofed
there would be 3,000,0001. requited in the coutfe of
a few weeks? _ _

Sir 1. I u arm: (*aid, 32,000,0001. he was convinced
would not be fufficient to meet the War Expenditure;
but as he underllood a Bill was to be brought in by
the Noble Dud for carrying his plan into execution,
and many opportunities would be afforded of dilcuf.
tin? in detail the various parts of the plan to which
he had ohjeflions to make, he would reserve his ob.
krvarions till Inch opportunities occurred.
After a few obfervat ions from Mr.VANSITTART
the Iterattions were read and agreed to, and the
report was ordered to be received to•morraw.