Star.
London, England, 1804-06-07 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

DAVIES OIDEON, Efq. toot the oaths and his feat for the
Borough of Heidi)°, in Cornwall. In the room of Lord Vifcount
Bitsharris.

-fiem4iiaceourtts Math,- to the Importation and esportation of
ecru were profeated at the Bars and ordered to be printed for
the ufe of the Members. _

Sir R. PAILBANKE prefented a petition from certain Ship
Owner, in Durham, praying to he beard &Lana the Navigation
Adt....Oniered to lie on the tahle.
stave TRIP..
Sir JOHN ANDFRSON prekntA a Petition from the Welt •
India Planters, prJytor to be heArd asinit. the pathos of a Bill
for the abolition ut the Slave Trade.

On the motion being put th tie Paition lie on the table till
the fecond reading of the fen& Bill, and that the Petitioners be beard
by themf.ives or Costal.
Mr. lA'II.BERPORCE raid, that the Horde vp•ohl do better
not to confider the merits of that Petition, till fuels time as the
Bill itfsif had been farther Wearied. He had ont heard of any Pe-
' tit= to be prefented when he brought forward the ens-afore. It
was a fulled which bad formerly undergone one of the antra
parliamentary &warms; sod, however anxious he might be to
hear the obis Lions of thole who imagined esernfelves aggrieved
by fuck a Bill, he row no reafon why a pethinn &mad be eon-
hdered previous to the time when the proper fenfe of the Houk
eratilJ be obeabonL

Mr. FULLER obferved. thst as fu u he mould crated Infer-
motion, from rs in hi. sißon, he right venture to fay,
that there was not a tingle word that fell from the lion. Geode-
man the other day, when be Introduced this Bill, abfolutely found-
ed as fad; and, theerrise, the honer any Petitions acalrift the
escalate mould be confider"! by the Hoak. fo much the better.
Lord ThMPI.h. tarn repnired Muhl( In favour of bearing
Could at the Bar, pretioa, to the feennd reading of the Bat
Mr. V1.0.1.FR and Mr. WII.SFRI.ORCE (mortally explained.
Mr. FRANCIS Lid. that the prtf:rt mOtiflll had come, as It
were, by forst& upon the Houk, and that Doctor ought to have
1 been ot fads a proprsf.d fining tussled.
Mr. SPEAKER obterted, that It was the ordinary colllm of
the Hour- when a petition was preSented, to make an order be
hawing COunfel at the Bar are. the Brood reading of the bill
The CHANChI.LOR of the EXCHEQUER that there
could he so difference at o"Ini in as to the common Kaiak-cid the
No.'s.; and that the belt t.nae 1., !tate objectless would be, when
the Fulmars were to oe bind by Count,

Se W 11.1.1 A M YOLINti ga r.natkr, that be lotemied to pre.
feu anothrr n againat taw fault Bail ttamorrarrar.

Lard 'Et.Ml'l.l. prehnteu a Keition fmm Mr. Lyon, Agent
for the Mend of Janislea, prsyine to be hesol 'cairn the raid ittll
Mr. W•1.11111tFORCL. vrtfb,..l to delay the hearing of Conniel
at the Bar so thole Petitions. tdl t►c thoti rea..ing to the
Os the quellkso being pnt, however, Irina the chair, it was
agreed that that tholahl ht On ti.c tablc, 064841
Irc sear*, at the feconil rest:Wig.
lard YORTCHL`TEK cla fern,: hit proirtlfe,lmot'oo. relative
to tlac order, fent out to the Matta Comman,lsra la India, to
today feu sight

MR. MOTMM

Mr. WHITI:READ rote, in purfuance 'ibis for-
mer notice relative to the condoft of the Lord Ad-
vocate of Scotland. The lionntirable Gentleman
Rated, that tome Jays ttad elapft-d enre he had given
this notice, wh;ch muR have given tl.at Learned
Gentleman time to hear of his intention, and affo►d-
j ed hint an opportunity lithe: to here preftnt him-

felt, or to have etnplo7o.epme (ibis friends to make
an aPirlogy. It would have been highly gratifying
to him indeed to have leen the Learned Lord in his
Place ; but at any rate it wu Come fatisfaellion to
him to know that the. Noble Lord was apprised of
his Intention. He would, therefore,, make ae free in
fpeaking of the Noble Lord as if be were here pre-
fent. That Noble Lord. from his °Sorel fltuetion,
is inveßed with very great powers, which neceffarily
require caution and prudence in their exercife. In
the exercife of thofe powers, however, he was lorry
to underftand, that the Learned Lord, fo far from
exercifiag delicacy or moderation, difcovered a thong
propenfity to overilep even the great authority with
which the law inveßed him. In the particular in-
Rance he was to bring before the Houle, there could
be no queftion that the Learned Lord bad tranfgref-
fcd every bound prefcriSed either by law or juaiee.
He bad only to appeal to the Learned Gentleman
oppofite (the Attorney General) for the importance
of (itch ofienfible fituations as he and the Learned
Lord occupied, and for the degree of refponfibility
attached to the difcharge of their duties. The fitu-
mina of the Lord Advocate of Scotland was Riff
more important, if poffible. and more refponfible
than that of the Learned Gentleman. His fituation
was more important. mud the exercife of his powers
more necefferdy the fubjed of parliamentary, jealonfy,
bumf* refponfibility could not Pr clofely follow him
in all the detail of his anions. The interference of 'I
the Hoofe therefore became more neeeffary, that
they might influence his Majeay to check every abate I
of power by difiniffing from public croft fuch as bad
made a wanton abufe of that power. Such was the
objen of the motion he intendelto bring forward,
and which he meant to follow eg by Come 'native
meafare. Hewn not fo well acquainted with the
laws of Scotland as fome Gentlemen in the Haute
might be. He would not prefume to define poitively
what the limits of the Lord Advocate's power might
tri
be. or now far in every inflance his jurifdiflionmi ht
extend. But he might eafely prefume, he thp t,
that the Lord Advocate can have no right to ca aim-
niate the chars ter of individuals—ithat be can hive
no right to bring odium on any man whom Arils
does not condemn—that he has no right to perfecter,
by the weight of his authority and .thi.litiorpsee
which his official Stuation silica hilts, th9gt nhom the
law pronounces innocent-'that he. eat Safe nbAllft 1
to arreft or imprlfon nay hut is the regginknoeufinf
law. He was to (hew, however. chg.. kted Ai-
vacate bad been guilty of calumnrotitt k. ;raffia
and befell kind, and that be bad 'up:this
calumny by escommualeation; se ler teitiik at lay
in his power.. Should this cafe, therefore. be Slide'
out—ffiould jt be found „that be. has io "ndoelnited
himfelf, there can be no quellionlhat he, can he. as
longer worthy to be entrialed with the office be now
holds. He begged the Houle to attend* route parti-
cular circomilassoes of the country. Thepiefeut was
not a time to Ipon with the feelings of the People.
nor to eremite a wanton tyranny where fo mach
zeal and unanimity were necefary. ,We mutt keep
faith with.tbe country. and not augment their need-
fary feerifices by any wanton cruelties. The perfom
who come forward as Volunteers ought am to be
threatened in order to add to their zeal or deck con
rage. The meaftues adopted ought toles fair and
explicit, and the execution of thole 'matures con-
formable to their original defign. In the difeurson
of the Volunteer Bill many opinions were entertain.
ed on different parts of the plan; but on no part of
that plan were greater differences of opinion enter-
tained than on tbe'claufe relating to contrails be
tween mailers and Servants. The Right Honourable
i Gentleman oppofite (Mr. Pitt). who was not then jn
power, thought that fome alteration ffinuld be made
in thufe contrails to facilitate the inereafc of Volun-
teers. For his own part, he, for one, did not think
that any alteration Ihould be made, and the claufe
to that purpofe did not pals. The Legiflature. after
due deliberation, did not think proper to leave un-
altered the nature of thole contrails. which, W taken
away, mutt have produced very great inconveni-
encies. 'The beg advocates of the Volunteer Syftem
will allow that there are diforders unavoidably arifing
from it which no regulations can altogether crdreft.
It will not be denied that it gives opportunities fur
idlenefs, and that thole who ate ill difpolediway take
advantage of it to milk° the harmers of their maf-
ten ; and, from a pretence of (erring their country
may take an opportunity of venting their (pleas
againli their matters. Esanly fuch a cafe as ibis
occurred in Scotland, in Banffshire, to a Mr. Mori-
fnn, he dues not know whether a farmer or not, but
in a fituation that required the attentions of a fer-
vent. His (errata, boa ever, contrary to his or-
ders, had attended different drills, and thereby
neglc&ed the duties of hi. Caution. He therefore
diicharged him, in conformity to the fpirit of the
law. The (errant, however, thinking to obtain re-
iref., fent a memorial to the Lord Advocate, Rating
that he had been engaged for fix guineas of ice; that
he had enrolled hitnfelf a volunteer ; and, on the
t3th of Onober, had gone to join his corps, that
were to be infpened by the Marquis of Huntly,
when, on his return, he was fitrprized at being dif
charged by his matter. The fervem, in this memo•
r ial, the Honourable Gentleman Reted, confeffed that
he had entered the corps without the content of bi.
trailer; but that when he went to the drill, after hi.
work we, done, he met with no inte-ruption. But
an in Rance here occurred in which he had abfented
himfelf during the hums of labour, and was, there-
fore, fu feverely treated. We ought not to forget
that we have nothing more here than his information,
and that the Lord Advocate bad nothing more.—

Game, (the name of the ferrant), afar having
made this Ilatcment, puts this queflion, .4 will the
memorialia be authorifed to enter an &Rion againlt
!tit laid mailer, and to what extent r' Let us now
fee what was the cordull of the Lord Advocate.—
Wi:hout applying to Ole other party, Mr. Morititn,
who, if any judgment w is to be formed, had cer-
tainly a right to be heard, his Lordfbip returns an
anfwer to the memorial, which is certainly fraught
with the greatell indiferetion, not to call it worfe,
and which is pregnant with the greatell feverity to the
other patty, which he had net heard. He lays, that
Ii wever unprincipled and oppieffire the conduit of
Mr. Morifiin may have been, the memorialift has n..
claim agairill him. Here his L.trAbip attaches want
of piinciple and oppreflion to this man, though he
had done n (Mara, y ro law, as he hi:nrch con-
idles. Were there no other ground but this, he
I would think a futEc:,.r.: to %rut= the interfere=

of the Honk. But the Learned Lord did not tug
it to remain here. He thought it necsirary to addref
to the Sheliff Depute of the County, a letter in very
particular terms. The Honourable Gentleman here
read the letter in feparate claufes, and made obferva-
tions on each.. " Unfortunately," begins the letter,
" no provifion was ever made in the Volunteer fyf.
tern, for a cafe of, this kind." It was unfortunate,
indeed, for Mr. Morifon, that there was no fpecifit
regulation, for then he might have ekaped the perk
cutu'n to which be has been lb wantonly espofed.—
But if this cafe falls under the cognizance, a regula.
lion would be found .in the Bill they had adopted.—
He was happy, therefore, that thofe clanks relating
to the contra ts between matters and fervants, which
in all appearance would have been fo oppreffive, had
been thrown oat, and that they formed no part of
the Bill as it now flood. Had the& clanks been
adopted, it was not difficult to fee from this tingle in-
Rance what the oppreffive confequenees would have
been. After havancalied him unprincipled and op-
prtffive, be greats that no redrefs Gould be obtained,
whetted not tranfgreired any law. How could furl
!savage, be silted, be reconciled, or Inch conduit be
juMa t is it not certain that a fervanrmay nester
his duty from attending drills as well as from any other
cants Mkt his conduit, taken in ar,otber point of view,
is molt atrocious. Without condekending to inquire
what was' the conduit of the fervent, if he had left
his cows tinted, if he bad left his barns unlocked, or
any eeceffery labour in fuch a fituation as to render
his prefenceinditkenfable, he !makes no inquiry what-
ever, but immediately. without any reflation, con-
cludes him guilty. The Honourable • Gentleman
then went through the other clanks of the letter in
the fame Brain of animadverfion*. The Lord Ad-
vocate attributed Mr. Morifon's conduit to difaf-
(titian without having any proofs of Ms dilloyalty.—
He recommended to the Sheriff to hold him up to
public contempt. to difeourage the Gentlemen of the
county satiating with himy and if the French
Mould/maim good* landing. to take tare that he be
that moment sesprifoned, and that he Untold take care
Out whatever Wks be (Mr. Morifoo) fhould faf.
tabs, be amid receive no eompenfation. This letter
writraddreffed to Mr. Follies, the Sheriff Depute,
wise ordered km be pot on record, as a monument
of Ora difepprobation et .14r. Morifon's' conduit.—
The Sheriff Clerk at the fame time wrote to Mr.
Ulrike, giving him an account of the Lord Ad-
vocate's *aka, and advifing him to fettle with Gar•
root the Tenant in qoeftion, by fame pecuniary of-
'far. is order to avoid more difagreetbk conkquen
ids Honiinrable Gentleman thee, after a
tied argansentative detail, concluded by movies—.
Tbat as meek of she Public Records of the Clot,
of Ewe as contained the Letter of the Lord Ade°.
' este, addrafed to Mr. Forbes, the Sheriff Depute, b•
laid before the Honfe ; as alto that there be laid be
I fore the Honk as much of the public Record of (aid
• The tenerrtie Ire de priority onetiebsd with tae Leta
a( tie LOSS Atvecars tic•Tirre, taus tumid dr 114011
of air. Wuraasui midis

(COPY.)
Memedel far Rohm Darrow, Primes Wears as=
hlr Meeteee's Cempety, el the 2d liatelies ef
the memetbilit wee regaled, 11211.14 to Ottwejamet
Medico. fernier, Is Witymie. for the half year esowsetwits ag
Widtfeaday left, at et guineas of the; sod the merottriale Wet-
Only emceed haws te Mr. Mortfates ferrate, la setae of hie area
roes; at that teem
I' Tint fame dam thwealter the toemerlailk waned bkiait a
Voltusteer la the rid empay Imam. Mitts pmeimpflpleaksof tit
smferi ib fr f rasjfw frig/00. and modoesti to attend pew
tad y at drill with the ewayetry, after has ortilawy work era
Ilesilhed. in the molar. moil the sgth Wilber latt. what. to Me
great ferprize. Mr. Menke difeharged him from his ferrate, be.
cage the measerialla bad game to Calks on the day poollogs
witless la earfter'• itoregm, s. &tea to his place, at the infpoftket
of the tampstry by Major Ostend the Movie of Handy; mad
that although the memo/UMW:re kid esjaks hie cave,. mad
aro whets he was diftaiired as aferefaid,offered to make ample re-
Dampener to Mr. Martial, la whit or In atone,. teethe loft aids
labour dazing hie ateerary Armee on duty hi his Majettys
aloe, at the inlyedleo of raid krauts.
_ _ _

• the 2116190diliif utiJer the thowlstsestinned dee
eamftatmes, be well founded leas adios quid Mr. Morgan, of
Ida fad flipulated fee, sad for wages beide% Moe the Gild 13th der
of Oftober. arks he was &Miffed from his krefee u afarefaid.
until Mardamu left; or would Counkl rather Waite the ma
morialilt to reltriEt kis claim arab!! Mr. Morgan to lamest el
bb wcrk from the fad term of Whhfuolay lalt to the Paid tjth
1
Odober i In Mort, the memorial* is deforms to Mewl: or set he
has any claim avail his Gdd wader, and to Mat stmt r

OPINION.

Mowevei unprincipled awl appretive Mr. lgorifec's eatshadt
teems to have hem lam &road that the tneatariaMt h so chin
what him, except tor wages up to the day that he was difoalffeti
from fereke, to width he Is unholy emitted. The opted= of
" E.liablust, Dec. *9,1803. (*gad) c. moss:'
" us. leetaarik. Der. 3th

I return you the memorial, with my opinion f and In the dr•
ettinflanees of this cafe 1 decline taking any fee, which I alfo re-
turn to yes. The cane in Oat rlidnotial is one of thole far wench.
unfortunately, no mullein Is made In any of the Volunteer Ads.
and therefore, of murk, a perfon who ocgledis his mafter% work.
on account of attending drills or reviews, li, I am afraid, in the
fame animism with a fervent doing fo from any other cattle. The
mode& of Merits*, however, is midi atrocious, and every Fallible
mesas ought to be taken to ftigmatife bun, and to pundit, by the
feces and contempt of all the refpedtable men of the country, who
moth' to Mk, inly A refried*. is 14191 se nernesisstien rr arable with
bi. udattrver. And farther, se I confider that Marlton% conduct
can only have adieu from a frort fpirlt of difelfedion and difloyal-
ft,. It Is my orders to you, as Sher, SoMilente of the count ,
that on the licit Frenchman landing in Scotland, "mu
rhereiral aril freest ALrifor re • I,4effeJ prim, furl yew grill r•P li-
terate kr, sairfaus a coatmunicetlnn with me ; and you may inform
him of thefts my orders. And farther, 1,1141de •11 I err Apiwnwsof
It.. from nrcriviv •47 selPinfafiliff.. wry tart ghat prefr" sand
.. either be Veva by for foray, err ij tiv Kerg's trysts, re femme
it fie=f ait M. tb army',
a I ma, Sir. your molt obedient homble fervent.
(Signed) " c. noes."
Addrefted to 0 Fosses, Efq. Shalt
Subflittste of Banffshire.
" l reenrotnend to she Sheriff's Clerk to tranferlbe this letter.
and fend the copy to Madan • keeping the principal In the r. rued
of Court. (Signed)
"ita. " Banff. 4th Jan tISS4.
In contequenee of what Is above flared, the before-vv.:l.-n
copy btu %CID made out, end is new fent you. I regret you Iltn•dd
haw.: caroled yaw klf to tom a\ anima, and would recon.n -nd
to you the propriety of fettling with harrow, by making lam as
handintne a:i 7.ll.,wance as pante. es being the belt mean. 01 re-
musing the nt the I. rd Adencate's Wigan.
I am, Sir, your moot obedidat Savant,
a lens Mr. hivrran. 1) " PAT. •

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bounty es contained the letter of the Itself Depute
to the Sheriff Clerk on the raid fubjelt.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQLIERfaid,
it was not his intention to oppofe the proaudion of
the papers moved for. After what had palled he
was defirous that the Houle mould fee thofe papers,
and confider the conduit they ought to purfue. He
did not think that this was the proper time for enter-
iog into a difculfion of the merits of the queßion thus
laid before them ; he would only at preterit fay, it
appeared to him that the Hon. Gentleman had put a
eonfiruetion upon thofe papers which they could by
nut meatu bear when difpaffionately examined. He
hoped the Houfe would not (offer their minds to be
prejudiced, or the quellinn in any degree to be pre-
udged in their minds, by what they had already
heard, but at the fame time he begged them to con-
fider it, in every point of view, as ot the higheli pub-
lic importance. If it could be fatisfailnlily made out
that any injury had been done to an individual, there
was no man more defirous than he.was to remedy the
evil, could it be proved that the conduit of the Noble
Lord complained of had proceeded from any degree
of malice. It was, however, for the Haste to confi-
der
if it might not have bees; occaftoned by a violent
=of public seal operating in his mind, and to
how much the public were intereßed in the
chandler of a perfon who had seed on all °mations
fo ably for his country's advantsp. He then ad-
vetted to the impoffibihty of the Lord Advocate of
Scotland attending at preterit in his place. owing to
bit official fituation in that country; bat he was cons
vinced that he would be ready to jellify the.eharge,
and to free.himfelf of the accutatim which had thus
been brought szainß him. He monied his firm%
that the Hon. Gentleman had not brought forward
this matter at an earlier period, when the Noble and
Learned Lord was in this part riche country ; but
be relied upon the impoffibility of the Hon. Gentle-
man doing fo &It a want of reeedray doeunreets
and information.
M. FOX Paid, that whatever may have been the
:natives which had thus Situated the Learned Lord
to adopt fuch a fingular procedure. he united that
tome better secure could be made for him than what
bad jolt now been hinted at—he meant the impellioe
of .ito ardent mind us perilous times. Gracious
GOD I exclaimed he. tan fuels an wears be 'Hedged
as an extenuation of an Ocoee in a country *INN
we have been fo long ditcuffing the Freesia Pratte
tion iMe fhotdd like to know what eS it temild
have had, bad it beau [aid that the Femehabeeekives
bad been situated by ardent minds, in premed's
that revolution (a teal laa) He hoped that the
Mule would loos have, a better reafon arid for
that Noble Lord's condo& With sefirodt to no being
extraordinary that fo ankh time had elapfoll Won
the prododbon of theft papers bad bees called for, be
',timid only °Verve. that thole who had esamieed
into the many of °prams. Mk beholds of the
fear entertained by the oppreffed, to car plain of his
coldprefor. It was not then furprisino. that this indi-
vidual had delayed fo long in making his complaint.
It was impoffible to Rate the variouslsratubes of mi‘
chief which wife from the illegal amide& eta =
trate, it might go to a dangerous kerb, and
tat:needs be converted into an casetios d wassey,
or a contribution from the perfote Nand. Though
the crime of every man milled in hislemeions dim
was never a law relating to crimes while did not alto
confider the conisqemsees which flow from the origi-
nal illegal era. as well as from the oft big. Tbm ,
however, was not the time for entering deeply upon
the fubjee. It was a matter of the fink importance
to the liberty of Scotland, and he hoped the bufinefs
of that pan of the kingdom would not prevent the
Lord Advocate from attending. in order to justify
bimfelf of the charge.—The motion was accordingly
agreed CO.
1131111 1171A1111.
Mr. J. FITZGERALD moved for leave to brim
in o a Bill to amend the Aft of the 3sth of his per
f6t Atkal. paged in the Parliament of Ireland, for
the Regulation of Elation' for Members to term in
Parliament, and for repealing the feveral Ares therein
mentioned, fo far as relates to Freeholds under the
Value of soy." He Paid the object of this Bill was,
to canoe the enormous abufes which bad obtained
at elections in Ireland. through the prefent mode of
qualifying freeholders 3 and the fyftem of ersnfufion.
ribt, and perjury, which were frequently the refult
of fuch qualifications, upon the eve of every General
Elation throughout the country. He therefore
Rated, as one_purpole of the Bill, that he meant to dii.
qualify any Freeholder from voting. whole freehold
Mould not be regillered at leaß twelve months pre.
vious to the elation ; to prevent any man from vol.
in; as a freeholder, who pleaded exemption from
the hearth tax ; to impofe a (mall Ramp duty on the
re.,ißry of freeholds ; to require alto an entry of the
n tone and defcription of the freehold property, and
Vie lives for which it was held ; alto to impofe an
alditional Ramp duty upon the 'safes of freeholds,
fA. every lace to whom they were granted in trult
l-sc.. As the cuitom ot granting fuels !cafes to a
number of leffees was productive of endlefs litigation.
an.: tended to defiroy the (pith of inibillry among
the litigants, he meant alto to Introduce a claufe for
iiiip,,iiiig heavy penalties upon any perfon endea-
vouring to impole fraudulent and fictitious votes at
tlettiens, upon the fame principle as in this country,
et rile fait of the party to whole injury fuch votes
rtiail be brought forward. Fur it would be highly
vague and ri,:“:l2lons to purfue, by allion of damages,
the indigent wretches who tendered themfelves in fuch
cafes as treeholders, as they were unable to pay any
penalty, an» were tempted to perjury and impolition,
by the fuburn.itio3 r,f principles or their agents. He
....:nc:uzled by movii,, for leave to bring in the Bill.
After a few word from Sir JOPN STIWART,COIU-
r..:II BA:AVILA., and :Al'. raltiCfl, lean was given to
bi Ing in the 8111.
Mr. LASCELLES moved to pollprme the fecond
reading of the Woollen Matuffaturers Bill till to-
morrow, on account, be aid. of the great imPottesee
of that meafure, and the pekoe thinnefs of the Hook.
Admiral BERKELEY waited it pottponcd to a fix-
ture day
Mr. BURDON thought a Bill, on which depended
the livelihood of 30,000 manufacturers, ought to have
full confederation, and in a full Hoofe
• Lord TEMPLE Paid it &is impoflible it could be
difeuffed to morrow or Friday, both being appointed
for folksier% of great magnitude ; and be mowed that
the Houfe be counted; which being done, and only
is Member bprefent,the Speaker adjourned the Houle.