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London, England, 1812-02-12 00:00:00

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meat. ant.MalinerA pension,whi ihnathed bee:lysanpa:idilofelliedet.inhuni
granted to Lord Chatham ; that wasaliscussed at
tune, and the opinions of Lord Hardwicke and Laid
Camden were, that his Majesty was 1,-gaoy
rised to grant that pension. During the premist
Ministration not a single pension had been grat”rd
out of this fund ; but there had not been a siptie
Attorney-General, during the present reign, ;110
li.enadsinoonts.helt tehattruthsteeCarchaernhirdiglLt
vince the House that the right was in the Crone., and
that nothing hut an Act of the Lqislature scald di.
vest the Crown of it.
Mr. P. MOO RE asked, if the Crown had the right
to grant Pensions on the Revenue of the Duchy ors
Cornwall The two Funds were on a parallel,
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if his Majesty could not grant Pensions on one,
ther could he on the other. He wished to see allot
Rpvenues of the Crown legalized ; if there were any
doubts as to any of them let a Bill he brought in, and
it should have his support ; he wished not to dept,e
the Crown of any of its revenues, but he wis ied to
see some person responsible for the application of
them. He was authorised by his constituents to s iv,
that should more money be necessary for the suppuit
of the Civil List, they were ready to grant it, thona:s
they were reduced to go without shoes and stockiais
to enable them to pay it ; but they could not consent
to leave large sums at the disposal of Ministers who
were not responsille for the; application.
Lord FOLKESTONE v,-.ls in favour of the co.
mittee ; the only Gentleman who had opposed it
( Mr. Long) was an interested person, as he eanyea
a pension out cf this very Fund. The gr.aninz
£l5OO a year to the Right Hon. Gentlemn., cud
to one Lady, and 430 M to another, could never
have been in contemplation when the Act war passed,
which specified that the grant was for tile purpasecs
supporting the honour f the Crown—and halm the
abuses which had existed in the
.application of this.
fund, he thought a Committee slionj be 9y‘iuted,
and therefore he shOuld support the motion.
Mr. ROSE said, the duty was granted in lieu of a
duty of 40Ib. of cotton per head, and other imposts,
paid by the inhabitants to the Governor ; part tut
money was to be applied to local purposes, but the
remainder was to be at the disposal of the ;
and the account of the disposal of the fund h4d fre-
quently been laid betere the House, and received its
sanction. When Mr. Burke introduced his Bid, by
%loch pensions were iestricted to gl2OO per annum,
Mr. Burke was reminded of this very duty ; wheabe
answered, that he had nothing to do with any thing
but the Civil List.

Mr. MA RR Y ATT was of opinion, that every pub.
lie discussion on the subject of Wt st India prcpeny
would be of service to the colonists, by opening their
eyes to the state in which they were, and, thereby,
preserving hem from ruin, and terviag the emp're.
Under that persuasion he should support the mntinn.
Mr. CREEVEY shortly replied, and said he should
talc.: an olperztinity to bring it forward again,
The CtIiANCELLOIL of the EXCHEQUER
centende3, that the duties in question were rand
the hereditary revenue ; and, after the clear statement
which bad Ite.it made by his Right Hon. Friend, Is
was astonished any one should have expressed a with
for further discussion.
Mr. 'WHITBREAD said, what had blunted the
appetite of the Right Hon. Gentleman, had abetted
his ; and he was one of those who thought enquiry
should bermade.
The House then divided on the Motiiin of Mr.
CHICEVEY for a 'Committee—For the motion 19—
Against it 50-Majority 31.