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SPANISH and PORTUGUESE OPERA' lONS.

LISBON. MAY 16.
EXTRAORDINARY CORTES..-SITTING OF MAY 15.

The Deputies being aisembled, the Bishop of'Corde
took the Chair, as the last President of the Ordinary
Cortes, and declared the Session to be opened ; and,
in a short speech, reminded the Assembly that his
Majesty, on closing the late Session, had declared
the speedy assembling of the Extraordinary Cortes to
be necessary both for the public safety and for the
purpose of enacting certain organic laws, on which
the consolidation of the Constitutional system and
the regular course 'of the Public Administration,
in all its branches, depend. HEAVEN, he ob-
served, had deigned to remove one of the princi-
pal evils that affected us, by freeing our territory
from the immediate and most fatal ravages of
civil war ; but deep and melancholy traces of that
terrible calamity remain. The foreign invasion with
which the Peninsula was threatened has been effected,
and other internal circumstances still subsist which
had inspired the sentiments delivered frolntheThrone.
—The usual forms were then gone through, and M.
Pinto de Magalhaes was elected President; and it
was resolved to send a deputation to, announce to his
Majesty the installation of the Congress.
SITTING OF THE 16TH.

The Minister-of 'the Interior stated that his Ma-
}l jesti- would receive the deputation to-day, ar, one
o'clock, in the Palace of Bensposta:

The Order of the Day was the Project for the Di-
vision of -the Territory, the first, Article of which
was• read. 4t The kingdom of Portugal and
Algarve, with the islands of Madeira and the Azoi'es,
shall be clividedinto twelve provinces, each of which
shall have an Administrator• General and other Pro-,
vincial Authorities, to be hereafter designated.".......
A4er some discussion, the Article was approved,
only the number of thirteen provinces was substi-
tuted for twelve.
Some others of the Articles being discussed, a new
Deputy,-M. A. C. de Menezes, was introduced to takie
the oath;. which having done, he immediately rcti
and said, that :this 'being a subject in the study •
which he-hid-speat.his life, he thought it his duty tad'
decline' tii-Oliinion without loss-of time, which was
that -the' dilsitm Ought to he diicondbeed, aot only.
because ilia project was full- of defects and errors, but
because' it was not within the attributes of the Legis•
Lathe Body ; that the division of the territory- be-
longed to'the (.'hatriberi (Ccoaras), and that.having
been usurped lien) them by the despots, it ought uow

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.to be giees them fsrst•reducing their number to wha '
itewiginally watateldtafter other observations,he ton-
'eluded by Offering as an ansendmentanotherproject. ,
r ; Having delivered kin`aViiting,hy desire of the, Fv:-
sident, it was read; ant the opinions of the author'
wartnly contested •by . Messrs:- iranzini. and Othello ..
;Brent°, as contrary :to. the• Constitution. kite**
observed, however, that it not properlyan ateritad.
rznent, but a wholly OW' jeer, kowarlaldreii• the
I table for a second readitig: • - r'',''''''' • ','Y' -.'' '
I - ••••:• 0: •
_,.- y.: qii lieestrft:lrelet,..".• '
eg It is said idsatAieneraL de FoiLtioga.•
at
at St. Ander,,eolnloyed in organising his troopsdess
i
been all of a suddifidbandoned by them, so that find.
. ..
ing himself alone with iitdir a few officers, he was .
obliged to quit the town, taking along with hiap the
Authorities, whom he bad just installed. Some:say .
he is gone to Burgos', °theta to Santana to rejoio-Za-
bala, who is investing that (dice. Itimsediately after
his departure, was seen advancing a calimm of ?0O ,
Constitutionalists, who had retired to the mountains
of the Asturias on the approach of the French army.
It appears to •be their intention to form themselves
immediately into Guerillas. '
" A swift-sailing vessel from Corunna entered St.
Sebastian on the evening of die 14th, after a short
and prosperous passage. She brought intelligence
that General Sir R. Wilson had disembarked at Co-
runna with his staff and some troops, where he met
with a brilliant reception. At eleven o'clock the
same night the French refugees in St. Sebastian, to
the. number of 120, embarked on board the same ves-
sel, which immediately set sail to return to Corunna.
We are assured that a body of 2,000 men, announced
by Sir R. Wilson, has reached Vigo, and that a second
division is hourly expected. The moment is ap-
i proaching when we shall have to communicate events
of the very highest interest.
. " The Sth of this month (Ascension Day), whilst a
division of the Army of the Faith, which is encamped
befOre' Pampeluna, were attending Divine Service,
the garrison of the place made a sally with six field-
pieces, and threw the camp into complete confusion
and defeat.—We hear from Saragossa that the: e are
but six or seven hundred men in that garrison, and
who have shut themselves up in the citadel. From
time to time patrols come into the towns. when their
presence becomes necessary to establish order.. No
day passes without several persons falling victims to
the re-action that has taken place. The Municipality,
desirous of putting a stop, to these massacres, sent a
deputation to the French General Molitor to request
him to augment the garrison, and hinder the citizens
from cutting each others throats. More recent intel-
ligence states that the massacres increase„instead of
diminishing : in one day there were twenty-three men
killed, and eighty wounded. A reinfoiceineot...a
French troops was momentarily expected.
" For some days past it was remarked that the
troops who are blockading Santona appeared to be
carrying, on some kind of communication with the
town. 'A superior Officer, convicted of carrying on •
a traitorous correspondence with the besiegers, was
putao death.
" The owner of a farm a little distance from Oyar-
zun, where several French soldiers were surprised by
a party of guerillas at the beginning of this month,
has been hanged in fronfof his house, together with
his wife and three young children."
A letter, dated the 30th of April, has been received
from St. Sebastian, which gives a brief account of
the events from the approach of the French to that
date. It was about two o'clock of the afternoon of
the 9th that the French sent in a flag of truce, re-
quiring the surrender of the place, to be held in de-
posit tor Ferdinand VII. by a Bourbon Prita:e. White
the answer tothis insolent proposition was preparing,
the left wing of the French made a movement hi ad-
vance, and opened a heavy lre of-sispsketry on A
Spanish galliot Which was anchored in the harbour.
A message was immediately sent to the:French Corn-
mander, informing him that if he'saknot aeithdraw
his troops and replace them in the,iselftti which they
occupied when he sent in the flag of trace, that re-
prisals would be made upon it. This threat had the
proper effect; the. fire was discontinued, and the
enemy's troops withdrew to their former. position.
—After the flag of truce bad retuined to the French
camp, a detachment of 160 men win sedt out from
San Sebastian, for the sole purpose of retdincoilting
the enemy. This detachment, however, got'engagea
with some advanced corps of .the French, and was
finally 'Charged by 1.000 of the Royal Guard. A b. t •
talion was sent cut from the garrison to support the
detachment, and prevent it from bean g cut off. A
warm action then cemmenced. 'The Spaidelkteinipi,
though greatly inferior ito number to the enemy,
fought gallantly, and succeeded in saving the detach-
ment. On the Spanish side, there, were two Officers
killed, three wounded, and eighteen privates killed
and wounded. The French loss was considerable,
but the writer had no means of• ascertaining its
exact ambunt. Since this affair, the blockade has
been kept up very closely, but the French appear
to dread the effect of the7Spanish artillery.. The ,
garrison has great dilkulties to contend with,
and the writer observielo;;—" Whit mast astonish you
is, that withorit a single marvedi, we are perform,
ink miracles. All the woe ks necessary, for the dr-
fence of the place are carried oo with activity. It
must be confessed, that anything is easily accom-
plished When there itigood-svIR.: ;1n nide( that the
garrison may obtain supplieS 14 sen,, the Goainwr,
Don Pablo de la Pena, has declared Siin Scbastiaq a
free pOrt. The following isVirtratmoble ref hie Dc-
scree on that subject: , ,
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".Dietermitied tontabittka Tor, 'itg 161.10*Irovorter
Viet
indtptidence by al the means Within". ' '
,r; 44 rasdroeg to
pallet with the worthy chie,fs, ' aaa meta% Wilo
dettntidlis res, rathtg tkan yield to 4:4Aitifar.i., I
have tboaght proper to dreitre tbitimt free 4 lii•ewros 1 ty,
so declare. U ; for though I am aware that
_. * fewasions,
arising.tront invariant necessity! will set'd** 1106. sod
product partial rase, yet, itit4ypietield *Oat* -Er it
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nay Awry to same witty It llitAititeiglif_ ...:011:iAlleiVivatiert
01 the stoat the bouts!! oielibik .ati4- Inc ' . y anise
Constitutional Throw.. . :i
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PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDMIGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MAY I&
This morning _their I.,ordships and soon after ten
when.hte. (.lark was beard_ ont for the respoodeo,
Warren in reply for the owems, in Ai Aire
Dar. the Bari of fife, Garther bearing was peetgined
to Wednesday next. '
The Paidey Gas LighttliiiniiiiiriAirdadihniatin*
rayaprd Fit thitother, Hai , ,
The Bermomisey and • Einfores rued a *mend
dine, as were also the ' s ( Vence Eilliaad
Livdryosil Chemtt Bin. ••: • - • •
.ffir • a
4itesessn and miggrAttpgyitt 440 tkoidiasive"
rods.l44t rififaa rritot !Ph wi4owerli.,l46"l-
- time.
Kr. lommox, from thr _et the add armeners cairn,
land.'Selltered in the lUssOM‘iset of the

Irish litsheries. •
hP111;109* vier* pamented from Frame Seiwood, in the County
of Somerset, praying for the entlie abolition of Slavery in the
British galenite,
The Report of 'the Deland County Treasurers' Bill was re.
ceived ; when dal amendments which had been moved by the
Earl at Donoughmoarim Friday were inserted, and the Bill
itself wee ordered to be read a third time to.morrow.
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE said he held in his hand a
Petition which reterted to a Bill (Ireland Grand Jury Present-
ments)in progress through the other House, and expected to
come soon into this. It was the humble Petition of Edward
Parker, Clerk of the Crown for the Peace of tale City and
County of Limerick, who complained of certain parts of the peirti.
ant Bill, and prayed their Lordships to expunge the same.—
This Petition was shortly read, and ordered to lie upon the
table.— Adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPZANER took the Chair about four o'clock.
Mr. BARNARD presented a Petition from the Tanners of
the:town of Bandon, praying for a repeal of the duty on Bark.—
Brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Sir R. SHAW presented a l'etition from the Chamber of Coin-
'mime of Dublin, praying for a revision of the law between prin-
cipal and factor. Brought up, read, .and to be referred to the
Committee.
A •Petition was presented from the Tanners of the town or
Kinsale, praying for a repeal of the Duty on Bark.—Brought
up, read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. CURWEN gave notice that, in the Committee of Supply
on Friday evening, he would submit a motion relative to the
chtitu.s.of Captain Manby.
Sir J. NEWPORT presented a Petition from the Coroners
of the County of Galway, praying for a restoration of their Fees.
Brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the, table.
Mr. Sheriff Lucas presenteda Petition from the Lord Mayor,
Aldermen, and Common Councilmen, of the. City of London,
praying that some parts of the 11111 for the more speedy Recovery
of mall Debts in Southwark might not pass is a law. Brought
up, read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. COKE presented a Petition from the Owners and Oc-
cepsees of Land in the vicinity of Norwich, complaining of Agri-
cultural Disarm—Brought up, read, and laid on the table.
Mr. S. WORTLEY presented a Petition from the furriers,
Shoemakers, and Lkther-sellers, of Whitby and its vicinity.
complaining that the repeal of half the Leaches Tut had, instead.
of relieving the trade, depressed it.—Brought up, read, and or.,
(lewd to lie on the table.
Mr. S. RICE presented a Petition from the Chamber °Mom-
fierce at Limerick, praying for a repeal of the Tax upon Lea-.
they. The Hon. Member made some observations on the benefit
which weaid result to Ireland from the repeal of the Tax.
Mr. CA LCILA FT said, that as soon as the inquiry into the
conduct of the Sheriff of Dublin was finished, which he hoped
would be very soon, he should then take the first unoccupied day
far bringing forward his motion for the repeal adze Leather Tax.
The Petition was then read, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. S. BICE presented a Petitiun froM Belfast, which was
real, ordered to lie on the table, end be printed.
Sir RON A I> FERGUSON presented a Petition from
Eirkaddy, in Fifeshire, against the alteration of the duties on
Sulphur.
Mr. HUME made some observations, after which the Peti-
tion was brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Sir T. LE:T II BRIDGE presenteda Petition from an indivi-
dual named William Parker, complaining that, by the represen-
talona of the late Chancellor of the Exchequer, be had been
induced to go out to the Cape of Good Hope, and Kole at Al-
goa Bay. I'he Petitioner was accompanied by 220 individuals
from Ireland. lie complained, that iu consequence of the con-
duct of Lieutenant-Colonel Bird, the Secretary of the Colonial
Gayer molt, he had sustained great loss and inconvenience.—
The Petitioner prayed for an inquiry into his case, and for such
relief as the House might think 1.: to grant.— The Petition was
brought up and read. It complained of the conduct of the Go.
vemor of the Cape of Good [lope, and prayed for inquiry.
Mr. WI laNlO'f-lIORTONsaid, that the subject referred to
it; the Petition bad been fully investigated, and be was in a.pod-
non to state, that there was the strongest rinse facie evidence
against the Petitioners He bad no objection to the printing of
tine Petition.
.Mr. HUMP. hoped that the Honourable Baronet would
make a substantive motion upon this subject. The grossest in-
justice had, he,beiieved, been endured by the widen.
Mr. WILMOT- HORTON explained.
Mr. C. HUTCIIINSON believed that the case of the Peti-
tioner was one of great individual grievance.
Mr. H. G. BaNN ET wished to know whether the Govern-
ment was still engaged in attempting to seduce wretched indivi-
duals to emigrate to the Cape of Good Hope
Mr WILMOT-HORTON said that the grievance teas rather
overstated by the Honourable Member; but it was not the in.
tendon of the Coiernment to allord very great Intent facilkieS
to those who whheil to emigrate to the Cape. -
he
Hon. 0. BENNET conceived. that tbe persons who
had seduced the Inhabitants of tliii country to Algoa Bay were
delsly answerable to the country.
Sir N. COLTHURST supported the prayer of the, Petitions
though lie could not agree wi the. Host. Mcotbitt toe Simms-
bury {Mr. Bennet) In tyodlTDAlni the Peg!), udder ilea' out
rodeo to the Cape of Good nor. •
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE...in moving that the Petition should
be laid on the table. observed, that the charges contained in it
w are of *sorry grave natureaand the Colonial Secretary/as deeply
troweled braise investiggthao• &t ;thin hits period pf tho
however, he should make oo further Motiodoit the subject.
Mc. GOULBURN objected to thediseession of Mr. Parker's
ease pit
12 resealing a Petition.—Petitiett ordered lobe printed--
A essage front the Ueda announced that their Lordships
had given their anent to several private Bills.
Lord doLTHOE.P moved that the Order of the• Day for the
second reading of the Lancaster Couhs BSI should be read; for
the purpose of postponement. The Order was read, and the se-
cond rending postponed *oil Thursday next.
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW postponed his motion connected with
the topeal of ashen' relating to Usury until this lay sennight.
CONDUCT 01 TUB ==RIFT OF DUBLIN.
Mr. CALCRAFT moved that the Order of the
Day foe the House resolving itself into a Committee
of the whole Elouse to• inquire into the conduct of the'
Sheriff of Dublin should be then read.
The Order having been .read, the liouse went into
Committee.
Sit A. It liGiug was the first witness called, on the motion of
Sir J. Sferriono%
ta ileum to Sir J. Havrottes question, the witness said—
OD ifOrmer night I stated thit I was an drangetrian
to the ' adoption of the system of I*2o. I took the oath:
:•
the old system. •
Was this the oath 7—.(Reading the following oath)—
* I. A. B. of my oven free will add accord, do solemnly pris•
mist and wear, that I will support and defend his Majesty
Xing george the Third and his Successors, so long as they
maintain the Protestant Ascendancy, and that I will support
end maintain the Laws and Constitution of these kingdoms. I
do swear that I am not nor elms was a RomanCathelic or Papist;l
that X am cot, nor was I ever an United Irishman, and that I
hasp ,nevar taken the oath of secrecy to that or any other sedi.
o°lo-SPIOe-ty• And I do solemnity swear that I will nielletray
or sibltalk that which is privately conimunlcanmil to imeg that
v.sill.sseither vote ft or indite it, or stamp, stub, or esenrse
upon any parchment; paper, wood, or stone, or illiorioNoispte
to that it may be known. So help me Gon, awl bap trop dim&
fast in this my Orangeman's obligation."
I cannot take upon me to say that all the words ate contained

' carry awry toodrfriiniany-Westsieaceptammanitlen, and that
Mal hoer as enemget sever beard it.
Neiman ;awl*. Ovarigeroan t the approbation
et`the whole body?-L-I w of no rule *hid.
No Roman Catholic cis iliialsaltald: ear arryswermot 24.-Ceau
entity nor.
Dues the Honourable Hannan recollect having printed forges-
reheat distribution a Patailiter in dodo T...-Yd, I do, eaactly
that which 1 delifiered in at the Bar of ahis Hoare. lin the Paper
which 'I have delivered ht theta bombe vefwassimarodensPar-
144efult There are eeponsieurvillas had welds* Popham' II
.disibialehed from an Oraelgamma • : ' • • ; ;I) • ~
. • 11111 sat are those words? .-•:r,i ,:,..
tige. PEEL here rose to order, and:thel witness
having withdrawn, the Right HOttoorable fietretary
peoceeded. They were now, hip app.rehencied, ar-
ming at that part of the examination in which it wt.
qiiite right to interfere., The -point to which he was
altiont to call the attention of the House was the •
-questieir about to be asked. Ona preceding evening
the Hops, had, 'be thought, expressed an opinion,
that'it'was better not to press a wknessnnless some
advantage could arise from it—anless it served to
,proonote the object. of inquiry—(Haar, hoar).—He
Apprehended that this question had been' set to rest
by a division of Vi to 19 on the former evening. Now
,the object of the propoied question was to ascertain
the symbols and tokens by which those Societies re-
cognize the members of their fraternity.
Sir J. NEWPORT.—The words.
Mr. PEEL.—I understand the question to have
referred to the symbols. •
The question was read by the short-hand 'writer,
40 What are those words?" ,
Mr. PEEL.—WeII, these words they were bound
not, to' disclose; and though he fully agreed 'that the.
House had the power to propose such a question,
and, in the event of a refusal to answer it, a right to
send the witness to Newgate, yet he submitted that
such a proceeding was rather unlikely to treequil-
lize Ireland. A Bill was now on the table of:that
House, which in the course of one fortnight wield
make all such .Associations illegal in Ireland ;-- as they
were, he believed, at that very moment in England.
It followed, therefore, that for the purpose of sup-
pressing such Associations, the examination was un-
necessary-; and it was certainly not a very relevant
inquiry, a,s far as the conduct of the Sheriff of Dub-
lin.was concerned. He trusted, therefore, that the
Hquoirible Baronet would see the prudent course,
and not prewthe question. ..
Sir JOHN NEWPOUT conceived that no ques-
tion could be justly considered more relevant than
that which he had proposi'd to the witness. He was
desirous of ascertaining the principles and feelings of
an Oi angeman, and thus discovering viliether he la-
boured under such obligations as rendered his capa-
city to discharge the character of an Indiffet ent Juror
utterly imanssible. This was the only question which
they were then to try : it was their objet to inquire'
whether the singular selection of the Sheriff did not,
originate in some adequate cause; and if that should
appear, it was worth while learning the reasons that
induced the selection. Were they, in fact, the men
whom the Sheriff selected, proper persons to admi-
nister justice? But the 'Light Honourable Gentle-
man took a distinction. between syrnhols and words.
Now suppose the symbol by which Orangemen
should recognize each other were the worms " Fater-
rninate the Catholics," ought not that to be known ?
The question was, should the witness by some pre-
tended, or if real, some illegal obligation, be ren-
dered sacred in the establishment of that House, and
enabled to withhold from them that information,
which, for the purposes of justice, they had a right to
require? It was a very late hour when the question
was moved, and it was impossible to pronounce the
judgment of the 'lovne to be foal on Friday night.
Bat suppose it were, the Committee had since time to
reflect; and in the early part of that evening by direct
and positive affirmation, they agreed to compel an
answer. He begged leave to say, he was not as well
versed' in- the Scriptures as the Orangemen. He
should have said Anwaites before the Arnalekitee,
which the Honourable Pdetntier 14 Dover, is his can-
dour, had, though reading the chapter, totally omit-
ted. What if.an Uoited itishman was.before theta?
Would their sacred obligations, be respected? In
other times they could. not, arid not only that, but
the most cruel means, were used to extract answers.
If witnesses - were allowed net to answer questions,
the COMMittee was no longer a Court onnquiry. If
they were not compelled to answer, allasvirstesstijad
to do, was, before coming to the bar, to teki a
oath, not .te tell the truth._ lie was *l4-tht
,a . ,
...J. 5„...„.. .........,,,,d to be rfafPFA. 44r . •
felt it would disgraoe itself if it did not oar thus occa-
sion do ire duty. Ilse tarlianitent only 4quid degrade •
itself, Auld he hoped it would not do so. /t Was said
thisanswer worth' make a martyr:' better mate. a
martyr than allow a triumph over their rights. and
privileges. It was said that a Bill was in proktess to
check those Societies, audit was opt his fault that it
was tint long since passed.
.Public opinion now
_forces' on that Bill, which had nothing to do with
the question what an Qsangeman may be, but what
he was when an. Orange Jury was packed,. and the
ends of justice thereby defeated. lie intended pq4
severing in his question, unless prevented by tho
Committee—(Efear, hear).
Mr. CALCILAFT said a view wee pp; on his con-,
duct on Friday which he did not think correct. Va-
rious circumstances induced his moving the adjorn- ,
meat ; but he had no intention of pracjudios any eza,,
Initiation which any Gentleman, naJght think proper;
to make. He did not think the question very pertr-1
nent to this inquiry, but witnesses should be made to'
feel no private obligation could shelter them from
giving proper answers.
Mr. GOULBURN did not wish to shield witnesses
from giving proper answers; but he wished to ex-.
press his opinion as to the propriety of; queen put
to him. The individual here did' not refuse us aniwet ,
any question, and he further thought jt would he un-
necessary and indiscreet to pees* a llavilefnef- 04.
material point was omitted—namely, that the Stair
was hot cognizant of.the thengeman's obligation as:
affected a brother Orangerisen. It was stated that
the Sheriff was not an Orangeman, and therefore he
was ignorant of their signs and obligations. The

, were put, he should oppestrit. --
Mt. A BERCRONSBY tho itbelonour and dig
, aity of the House, and the
volved in the qoestionpist A, vorilFsa, What w!,,s,
the object of inspiry ?--W)4her the Shines Peril
was impartial. The Sheriff himslifleid be .11,d
Orange panel. When thee is an Orange panel? Must
not that be examined ipso ? - _ 14:House of. Cninr
p s pause and send this hi*k synth the acicnow7
I OM that we have troth 'to thit':Orangernen,
E m 4:
a wewahreolegood.qninond
ryalabmitsubjeetsOrsligemienso long I.swyhOu9 s.itail-ld:
/ow us to rule yob r.—(flear, fiear).—This question I
Could not stop: it Was not who should triumph, that
would be pusillanimous. If there was any party 4n.'
~Ireland.obatrusting justice, it should be put down.
Years ago the ;people of Ireland were-told (so !Indy
as 1614), that-Oranne, Societies were a complete bar
to the fair administration of jpstice. To use the
words-of a Ltaraed Judge's (Fletcher)Charge, "they
poisoned the very source's/ justice." With respect'
to the principle, he could, for one, never help saying,
that this witness would -be the victor over the fallen
House of CoaltuQuil if aligf Melded to the opinion
jostdelivered. BUt suppose this witness sent to New
the triumph, all which be might receive i 4
Dublin from-ehe Oragleggien, would be nothing to the
triumph of his having subdued the House of Cow
moos. No laurel could be greater to obtain than
this victory of the witness, which would send him 1
into i Court of Justice armed against the Bench by ;
the fall of the House of Commons. i
Mr. CANNING said, he-merely wish-edverylWiefly
to state his opinion on the .subject then before the
Committee. With respeet,tp the'powers-of the house
be had no doubt, though of the exonfiency of pres-
sing the question to the witness he bad much. They
had certainly the power to over-rule an unlawful
oath, rather he should 'say in this case an oath not
prescribed by law; %chile, at the same time, he re-
tained all those apprehensions as to pressing it which
be expressed on Friday evening. He thought it would
lead to the most eisastrous consequences, and was
therefore to be deprecated. Since the first diicussion of
this question he had had forty-eight hours for mike-
tion, and he now came to its renewed consideration
with precisely the same feelings. Let those who
thought otherwise look to what might be the conse-
quences. Ile bad reflected upon the matter, and,
be thought. it
,better to stop before the question was'
put, than to wait for the witness!" refusal to answer
it, and then render his punishment necessary: If
pursuing this line of conduct was -to continue the ex-
istence of Orange Societies he might feel differently,
but where a Bill was to be brought in to put them
down, it was not expedient to-add to the testimony
before them the • additional information *NOV
might be furnished by an answer to this question.--
The Committee should resolve in one way or this'
other; if for the question, however, they mini ai;).sit.
at. the risk of all the dittcolties Which may result
from it. ' If it were pressed, he Would not interpose
again ; and the refusal of an answer would, no doubt,
bring them to the full'performanee oftheirduty. He
thought it a matter of discretion-to stop now, rather
than at the moment of conflict between putting the
question and a refusal to answer, it being, he hoped,
unnecessary for him to mix up an objection to the
question with any partiality int.' Orange Societies.
He would conscientioudy exercise the very same slis
cretion if the witness were an United Irishnsau; and he
was always ready to vindirate the privilegeauf that'
House and its Committees.

Mr. BROUGIiaI confessed he could have *lsl.—.
that his Right Hon. Friend (Sir J. Newport), before
he bad entangled the House with a new question, had
waited till that question was repeated, which after a
debate, the House, on Friday, had almost ottani..
trouttly resolved should be put, and which in the face
'a/that iksolation, the witness had pertinaciously and
• eentuntaciously refused to anniser—(llear)—hecause.
Wore they extended their inquiries, it was proper to
decide what44s to. be done as to that question, whicbs
if she flousu..setaissed the semblance Of dignits and
respect for, its privileges, should enforce suesllll
this point oily, however, which was a question
merely of precedence cploitpOnernent, did-bed!**
feom his Hight Zoik. &Male., Tor the • que.slion be.
fore these, tains cosielviseetim relevancy ?.....(bigeriP
ft wastoo late to doubt it. • They had evidence: dot
* §h
pockesie had. hraggeit that he had ass Orange panel
in his et.
• Otiond BA Rat toss te order, for ofpub-
Be justice. The. Hon. and Learned Gent would
.see the impropriety of prejudicing the accused, by
=midair% as proved what was only asserted. It was•
denied that the Sheriff had made stub a declaration.
Mr. BROUGHAM continued. The Right Ho-
nourable Gentle's:44o4ot* tiarry), who had con.
ducted his part of the inquiry with great candour,.
and acuteness, and ability, had lost sight ef' the ab!.
solute impossibility of arguing any case without re.
• cortiog Jo the evidence. When be spoke of matters
given in evidence, he did not mean to say that they
were satisfactorily proved. He did not wish to pre-
judge the Sherif: DOD forbid. • He by ina means
wished, to stern that the Sheriff bad beets guilty of
packing a Jury ; • on the contrary, he was bound to
suppose that be would. prove himself inpoceut. Yet
tboY bad it In evideocetbu the Sherifrhad come Into
a room full of company, and bragged that be bad an
orante•Jury, or a good Oreng•• Tiri, in his pocket.
And Si the Way, when it will stid'that this was con;
.undictedibie would reatark diet a *OS entire failure
than the attempt to contradict it bad never lioesiyit-
nessed in, any Court of Janice; for—w-- •
Mrrumurr rose. to eider, and hoped
Humor/Us and Learned Friend wOuld, excuse hint
illse readied hint to- that linewhich. he hid himself
so well marked our, It was quite proper to refer tea
the evidence, but it could untie; no goodpnr
stemuleat at that time. ma its weight. • . *
Me. BROUGHAM aerated : he had been dragged
-very unwillingly into a discussion on the atm= of
'die
evidence.. It was enough, however, to ye
that the Sheriff was said in evidenee to hate used the
. words, 4, I have an Orange panel," with tokens of sa-

if not of esoltatlon; they then we-t on to
,hat was, the import of this declatatinn
might be the resblt of hiving an Orange
• it might not : this might depend upon ute
elicited by further inquiry as to the nature
.ange panel. The House was yet in doubt,
the effect of forming an Orange Jury was to
pollute the source of justice. He could eat-telseis _
for granted ; he was bound rather to helieee. that 3..
the matter mere probed to _the. bottom, the Sheriff
*TiltoWe out of the accusation . free from htarne; ..
tog bili74l-pocrly unable-to ;rime to any condoling'
atilt erOoareviderwe. The Right Hon. Bierissoris
for' Ireland:hid irld'thenilbat 'it WAS tat lftneit ' ,
at the Sheriff wainn Onarigetnan. "Tbe Sherilet.
is 'firi ' OrittigEma" • 'raid •the' ht Itortorwalde ,
til
*m n,
iry:. 71441bn mest•-fisst prone Rig
.that theedsarlll ;
, 4 :mm• 1 ..eattati; that beis cognizant of the • . .
rU'ss-r rePecting .iehiCh you inquire:, .
ra's•not 'at -all: the-case; the- assertion- an be tr'
Moth as .to the fad, 'Mid lil tO its import, was, thatch'.. Shrift had nerd- !lee weeds, " I have an
panel." 'llsei. had to .;tty What an Orangef..)rpa3
1 meant—.(ilaer, Leer).4-E4.lm, the inquiry we I
Lmocireiy, .nitif Was tieemeary to goant with the qe*,
rtion. It war tint enough to say, 'they had got inter •
a serape,- and -they had valet out of it as well eel
they could ; there bail: been appeills made ta their
discretiao which teas, they were told, " the head
part Or ii:lnuti•-(t:aughing); —there had bees apt
peala,tot their -jasigment : which has equivalent is
this twerto-wword he should not name ; but, ho
ever they eloathed and varnished over the matter,
if they even sheltered themselves under a phra;
`which had-never been more ludicrously abused, dryly
dignity--(A lenerd—the truth would ear—.hay,
mast yield 0' the 'Deputy -Grand Master of all the
Orangemen—Gear,-heft'.)—To prove a question to
be irrelevant, it was enough that Sir Abraham King
did not like to answer it—(Hear, Ilea r )..--They were
~at length, on Monday, after those 48 hours of refler. .
:kit, which were so comfortable to the Right Boa.
Gentleman (Mr. Canning), and so pernicious to the
House—they were not only to bend to the unreason-
able pretences of the witness, but they were to take
fright at the very sight of him, and avoid the possii.
bility of coming into contact with the uttinut retie
of the Orange King—( A laugh, amdlouri deers),
On Friday they approached the querainu,. but now
it was barely necessary for Sir Abraham to dem
himself; he might say, Vogl, culls rici—(.Haugh);'
The only difference between him and his great prow•
type ,was, that onedmquered by seeing, the other by
being seen. Let them trot suppose that the Public
were blind; let them call their conduct discretion, err'
judgment, or as they pleased; let them colour their
effeminacy in -whatever way it suited their. palate,
the Public would use plain language; and sly; that
Sir A. B. King, because he was Depbty Grand Master
of the Orange Lodge; because he was in favour at
Court, and came here loaded with honours; because
he. was connected with persons-of influence. in that
island, was not treated by them as,giey e mild have
treated a poor United.lrishman, or.-aTrinter, whoa
they, might have- had .at their Bar-L(ilerar,. hear).4
Lord Redesdale, in thinause of Lards n• year*.
the quoted him because ;he wailan aotliptity); saidr.
there were in Ireland two sortsnt justice, one of them,.
for.the rich, and another. for the Foot, and both ell
them equally indefetisible. ttswould itoyw be said,
'with as,nucb tr4th that the Hoe* OfCturreoons had
one set of privileges .against the:. riida;anrl .another
against the poor; and the iii he Hob. Gentleitqa
(Mr. Canning) who had asseri.W iiirStaretwitlei
to '. be believed, that he, atould treat in the.Prill-
manner an United Irishman, would be a must tp:f.AP.:
did exception to the general rule.:-(ficor,lerth)r.....
Let them suppose an 'United Irish Sheriff, if there
was such a thing, to-the brougbt.befoce them, charged
with-having- peeked a Jury, to allow those traitem
whom his Right Hon.Priend- (Me. Plunkett), holding
with an even hand the gales of justice, bad put upon
their trial. Let them-suppose him to have said, aL
have a good stout. Gateenduce," se "as Erin-ge,
bragh Jury," .or whatever their watchword mgt.
be. II he were ached what ant the meaning of On
wotrie:Geeen,".and were to answer," I am as United
Trishman,-I am board-by solemn obligations saw tt ,
disclose their secrets.," Would tire Right Hon. Godirt
man thin step forward and declare that they should
.not press the quastiaa,beccetsztkey should not afford, 1
the triumph of martyrdotal—(sffaan),. If, he aids*
he would betray his duty,. as he did now; be-would
`afford are delinquent the triumph. not of mattyrdrie
beta sabataatial reeeets,-41iears seeldo- 'fly eall11(
pretend - scls tber, pleased. that the Oraige &ciao
were to be put, ilown by erns that would !ITT!!
—the eestePS vying baste What ' was
,prountals6i_
what was tame, abet Aker filmed so, offend. the OM*
Societies 'eves Inc -what was pvetendell whelk/ WI
moment of their tatisterree; and thee to pies*Abraham ring from 'obtaining a triumph thelion*
was to lay its neck under his feet.ilicar). .
Mr; WYNN said, he felt the House coati net di-
eldeeither we/ without inconvenience, bat
suggestion that the question was aseesaerYtubeita
gems of the inquiry he did not see how dump twig
refrain from pressirtit—(likor,
.heer).. It whew*
test that the symbols or watchwords of a seder atle•
ciation might be very taischievous while the oat
were Very simple or innocent. leppoleb- for is
net a society of t7ttited4rishmen or Cabala.
WhO had a simple , oath of -fidelity (as tharof the
United Irishmen. was in effectji, but who halls thin
'watchword, .4 Let them bind. their rulers in duke
or any other passage to the same effect front &
Scriptures—.(geor) Ile suggested, however, thick
would be well to postpone the question till ssa ed.
ther questions were put. '
SI J. NEWPORT iii4,494*14;„
~ lith . le!
of the Committee, posseigli:fisgag Cr- : -
*ll44.crif-KI/44—e-rhiChIVIFIFIar
: o,lolllliiiiiiiiY 114411ii40014.4i4 U 4 4___lZ
tialfratho question pot, wheduinany paw_ nor .
Ut thed stun symbol torinoll7re,i lo J., 4, ,t....i
..,..-gy-.''
_Sir J. NEWPOILT said 144 hildigiiigar.
.to postpone it. .S 3 e:. I. n .i.,h A
• Colonel BtAltftY 'aid' Itelholidipleat ilideet.
~
rim% IfllitTl e iii4Vl4"... iaiii •ti gnawtialli."--..“ iilf-004-.1"4 .
Omit of the Cominittek 24..vidi: . . . - • ' 4
-.Mr: CROKER said therelveiv a MI/Maw bent.
g question on a*otion and one. put to trwiteal
141nui
air. isIiohJGHAM appealed to theStaskts'..
they any question ikoposed to be put to a w

is.mol, 'in that Oath, or that • not - Mt
..__ • Vas irrelevant—(ll- i, • r . • (action,
. ;. '' ' eluellif, r' 7/ :*" i she* of the ....:- -'o4ok,a,‘"- in nire tvi
riTS. . w• .. . I ia..' .
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tie f'O,l6P .g „, ~ • 4., , mod. Mr (r . ewpor*, . "ig:ll4 . king Ti
, w „• ar wawa , 0 a part , .. ... witness a a it iti ' • Viet or i
, ,• .
a
I o'eleff4 dwiliblic ' tli..' • '•• - AWN in a great paatd midi Tp 'stake •'. , • idepre
sad Mr. I was* Part et lair entalfeine" illillithinseletaa l—Cer- a ;martyr *ould be an titt of :greakindisolitie,.. of atf Ora
Et. how' tabalr.:_k_to a part.g.thk.pyblie •
r
' whether ti
-met we ere eoe to a maz eattiort isferamair his humble judsrnent. It was asked if an fi"
seiti
him—is that a part of your sl oqessataealar, /Tishman were in the place of thikwitness• what he pollute thl
mud; ..-I'-this a.patibp of the _ _ Oath--We ara Dot to would do P. Ho towered, if a question irrelevantly for grante
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