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the (soil et the boast. Re *mild sot have dmie his duty if he did
not Midi. govertnortat 'the real state of the country don they
fright probe the iithentatisis to the bone—and sift it to the bottom,
commit spas it, and come e• the house with some remedial toes-
siqe. Me would not b.lieve any man who told him that there was
not room for rebel. Every bon. member tom that there was nothing
ahem sober to ma'. with Odlo's amtistarce. When the government
should deviate from the right esurte he would not assist them
—At, Not an iodt lithe house would tell the government what their
eottadtsesta told them, and maim it with their own knowledge,
government would no king& be ignorant of the real state of the
country. The honourable and gallant member then continued as
Mimes ni-14 If I had the power every man who did not rerresent
his constituents faithfully Amid be sem to the right-about.
Yes, that he thould, in double-quick time.
,((mud laughter"
Every ass ought to ststo in this house the rate state of has cons!!,
turnts. Instate the membere sent to this house for but to do se*
I say it Is quite shameful the state of things which I see, when
open my eyes and look mound me. I eav, there's a elms,
men In this memory who erOy all the privileges of law,
and don't pay sixpence to the public service. I know the tart. t
speak of the men who receive large htesines front the funds, and
enjoy all their dividends, and as allowed to escape without paying
a farthing. The landed interest is the stain-sprom of the minify.
What the devil would become 4 the country without it ? - (Great
laughter.) I'm but but a plain Imme.spen country gentleman.
Pm been sent here to speak my mind, snd I'm determined to do
is. If yes thick that I'll put ossmeir midst the yoke of ministers
you know way Slide about me. I've a Moo *sell always give a
conadentieus mos—(Celts Qtainion. iteilition I) I'm not to be
mit dots, by ggeldsecten oelllng int" immlllso when I'm speak-
leg oboe the blown of tbo:vl;w-11111st the is all this
te *boot 11-1111pMeed cries 4 ")
Tho SPIRE/II —Om*, •
N Wend wnso—iu-sure, a, I don't wisb to be out of
-tidy with to be of ssevilit a say 11111111111 t and if I am un -
s Amami ig Mika:NC he very ready to walk ot.:
(bate setrolegiis to the house, tt !'m out at'
shag tot** elan,. As to the distress of the ship-
kaas ibris shin the only remote ate can sow re
v the hooding system to out own shipping, as far
, wool. and all bulky snicks. Lee toreign ships
think proper, but then let them pity the duty on
lending their cargoes. That is the only fiber that can be given.
The evil of evils is free trade. I wish to don that the bill of the
right hon. member for Liverpool had been stifled in its birth. It is
one of the most destructive bills that the country has ever known,
and if persisted in, It will leave the island of England nothing
better than a barren. uncultivated rock 'Prose are home truths,
but I speak out. I hope the government and the house a ill /croon
throw the whole system of free trade overhand. It work, nothing
but destruction to the country, and leaves the people nothing but
starvation and pores ty.—The observations made by the hoyourable
member for the county of York are well worthy the serious conc.
devotion of this house. I hope the noble duke who is at the head
of his majesty's government has something in store which I e
will have speedily laid before the house. I know, right weli.
that his majesty's ministers will do every thing in that
power, but they can't do so if they are allowed to remain in
the dark as to the real state of the country. I'm glad I see the
ho-
nourable member for Montrose in his place. That honourable mem-
ber takes a great drat of trouble, but does no good. -(Latighter )
lie keeps people up till three or four in the morning about Cr,-
thousand troops. But what sort of saving is that ? Why ncibing
at all. 1 know all about it,fur I. lived a longtime among the red Wlibt-
casts. ("Question.") When gentlemen correct me I'll yield if Pm
wrong—but if I'm right, and they think me wrong, then I'll ex-
plain my reason to them. That's good logic. (Loud laughter.)
Of what use is it to keep men out of their beds to three o'clock in
the morning, doing nothing all the time but dilly, daily, dilly-dally
about mere trines ? My constituents have desired me to stand up in
my place In this house, and state, though they are suffering under
way great distress, they wish to have me communicate their
aenti-
mets on the extraordinary declaration which has lately been made
within these salts by the hon. member for Aberdeen. I allude to
the representation of the hon. member's speech, which has been con.
veyed to my constituents through the newspapers. (Order, order.)
I'll do m duty—l am in order. They say that a more unconsti-
tutional was never yet made by any man. They desired
me to ray that they are filled with disgust at it.
The SPEAKER—The hon. member has given the ehair to un-
derstand, that if, in the warmth of discussion, he should make use
of any expressions that were irregular, he souk rather anticipate
an occasion for correcting them, than commit a great disordet. I
now tell him that if to refer to . shut hi represented in the news-
pas to proceedings in this house is disorderly, so also is it dis-
orderly in the parties to have made to him such a Communication as
that alluded to, and it would be disorderly in him to communicate
the result to the house.

Colonel WILSON—Well, then, 1 hope I may be allowed to
make a communication in a differenrway. (Order, fader.) I con-
sider the declaration of the hon. member to be one of the most un-
constitutional ever made either within the walls of this house or out
of them. This is plain speaking. Did the hon. gentleman know
what he was doing, when he made it? Did he know that he wa•
introducing the torch and brand to his own destruction ? Did he
know that he was advancing to the very brink of a precipice
When be got there, did he know what would be the demand made
upon him ? Would not the multitude say to him, " Come' be the
first to set the example ; now give up your own property for the
good of the, country. But then the hon. member would say, "Oh
no, I never meant that." This reasoning would be of very little
use to him, foe persons who were the first to excite the people
against their rulers were very often the first to lose not only their
own property, but their own heads. (Vehement irks of " Ques-
tion.") trot be put down—l say again, l'il speak the whole
truth. You all know I'm here to do my duty. %I hat my coned.
wenn say is this,—that if they don't get redress from this hotter,
they will go and lay their case at the foot of the throne. I don't ad-
vise that course, but I know. at the same time, that the royal breast
is too benevolent to feel angry with ministers fur allowing the die.
treaties of his people to come to him. Beare I sit down, or, l must
say that, if any representative in this house has even only two or
three constituents, it behoves him, at this time, to stand op in his
place, and do his duty.
Mr. 81 RIBS said, that after the speech of the hon. gentleman
who had just sat down—a speech distinguiehed for so much good
teats and good sense—he should merely content himself with sup-
porting the petition He should, however, probably feel it Mal.
airy to call the attention of the house to the subject in a formal way
on a future occasion.
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Thor petition was then ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. bTEWART wished to ask the right hon. Secretary for the
colonies whether be bad not received a communicatioo tram Mr.
Wentworth respecting the conduct of General Darling, governor or
New South Wales, with mood to the punishment of two soldiers
He aim wished to know whether, in the event of the right hon.
Secretary having received any such communication, be bat any ob.
jectioo to lay it before the house ?
Sir GEORGE MURRAY admitted that such a eamounication
had been made to him, but it involved a question of law, and was
referred to the law officers of the crown. Under these eireuenstances
be did not think it right to produce it.
Mr. SI'EWART wished to know ark thee the tight hon. gentle.
man would have any objection to lay the amtmumeatiesi before the
house, }titer the opinion of the law officers were known ?
Sir O,Et I. MURRAY raid be must exercise his awn discretion
upon the; point.
Mr. LITTLETON was anxious to know foist the right honour.
able the Chancellor of the Exchequer. whether a rtateersent of what
be bad read as coming from him on the subject of the licensing sys.
tem tiasporreet. The right honorable gentleman was telnesented
to leave stated that there was another tax which might be taken off
with more advantage to the public than tax on beer. He wished to
know Vibe right hon. gentleman had said so ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was un-
fortunate in being too frequently otiarepreeented. He bad never
made use of any sock eapresisioas as those 'Weil by the mateurable
localism

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Mr. HUME said, as the subject of the Shipping interest had re.
ceotly been adverted to, he meet call the attention of the hoes, to
the expense which ships were subject to foe lighting and pilo•age In
the hitditerramean. He also andersteod that the charge foe passes to
the Mediterranean was very high. and that large seam under that
head were gold into the Admiralty. The hon. mentliev then awed
for varimis returns on the subject.
Mr. Citt +KEA said that in many eases passes were granted to
the Mediterranean, but that the vessels did net printei to that
tioatione—Moties agreed to.
Mr. HUME moved for returns of the Cfferent ratetratpay of the
Army and Ordoence for the years 1782 and B.
his H. HARDINHE said be did not object to the femme being
penduced, but he must re-assert the itorreetre,a el nix forams isms.
mew es the subject.