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London, England, 1813-01-23 00:00:00

TO THE PUELIC.

SWIFT and Co. the Contractors for the present
LOTTERY, return their sincere thanks to the Public for
the distinguished favours they have received, and at the same
time beg leave to offer their congratulations on the success which
has attended the purchasers, from the restoration of the old mode
of Drawing in the Lottery just ended, the whole of the Capital
Prizes having been divided and sold in Shares. The present
small Lottery consists of only 7000 Tickets, and contains
1 of £20,000 is £20,000
• 1 - 10,000 - 10,000
1 - 5,000 - - 5,000

2 - 2,000 - - 4,000
S - 3,000 - 9,000
4 600 - . 2,080
4 300 - 1,900
S 200 - 1,000
Besides 10 of £lOO, 20 of £5O, SO of £3O. 104 of £25, and
1220 of XlS—to be drawn according to the old Mode on the
17th and 18th NEXT MONTH.
Tickets and Shares are selling at SWIFT and Co.'s Offices,
No. 11, Poultry ; No. 31, Aldgate High-
Not-12, Charing Crass.; street.

THOMAS GILL'S taNrroßs, or Improved
CHEMICAL MATCHES, which, in an astonishing man-
ner, instantly produce vas and LIGHT, on being tweeted ! with-
out the unpleasant smell of sulphur, or the use of
.TIIAT MOST
DANGEROUS comausTuttr PHOSPHORUS!! and by far ex-
ceed, for certainty and ease in use, any contrivance for this pur-
pose hitherto made known ; 'are, with his IMPROVED PNEUMA-
TIC POCKET Fiax Foots, which produce fire by compression
of the air!! and MI FLINT and STEEL Apparatus,Witli his uew
invented MATCH-Coins, which quickly produce flame from the
mere sparks !! !lade and sold, with.varions other novelties, at
his celebrated Manufactory for 'erasion rims CUTLERY, No.
89, ST. JAKES'S.I ELT, opposite to PALL MALL, London.
Where also may be had, Ids PATENT MASTICATORS, FRUIT
and FLOWER SCI"!SARS, SLIDING KNIVES, and PEN-missimo
KNIVES, all on new principles ; his superior SURGEONS' Issriti-
DA [NTS, GRAVERS and ETCHING NEEDLES, for Artists ; Pitt•
& K•NSTES, RAZORS, SCIS4ARS, NEEDLES, E. made by His Im-
proved processes, of an Swastika temper.
Also his long-celebrated WARRANTED SWORDS, fatlllS, Pis-
tilli, Arms, and Accolitrements, of every description. •
Wholesale, Retail, aid for Exportation.

PUBLISHate, ENGRA'
AND OTHERS.
ENGRAVED COPPER-PLATES, Pit iNrs, DRAWINGS,
a few PAINTINGS, &c.—.By Mr. W. DAVIES,
On the Premises, No. 57, Upped' John-street, Fitzroy-square. on
Monday, February 8, 1813, and three following days,
at Eleven o'Cloct, by order of the Executors,
ALL the valuable and extensive STOCK of ED.
graved COPPER-PLATES, with about 80,000 loapreo.
sions, a large Collection of ine Drawings, a few Palntinp, at*,
&c.; consisting of the Works of Walmsley, ?)ayes, San
Calton, Edwards, Pocock, Ste ; a number of unfinished Plial.l
of Views &c. never yet published ; a quantity of Deandnegi.,
per,Portfolios,
andSARJENT, Engravers and Publishers, both deceased.
To be viewed three days preceding the Sale (Sundays excepted)
when Catalogues may be had on the Premium, at So. 6d. each,
(but returnable to purchasers), at Gan-way% Coffeehouse, al
of Mr. W. Davies, Auctioneer, Oiltspur-street. •

CLARE-STREET HALL & IWO HOUSES ADWININCL
TO BE SOLD, BY AUCTION, by Mr. FARIgUS, -
At the Commercial Sale Room, Bristol, (entrance to the Rawl
by the doer in Small-street). on Thursday next, at One o'cierii
in the afternoon, (unless in the mean time di,poseft of by pri
vate contract, of which due notice will be given),
ALL those well-known and Extensive FREE,
HOLD PREMISES, called CLARE-STRLET HALL
situate in Marsh-street, in the parish of St.Stepb ea, in the chi
of Bristol, and for some years past in the occupa !ion bf Meson
Mane, Vaughan, Longmore, and Co. whose is :rm wine 011
the 25th March, 1813.
These Premises comprise a capital range of Wa rehouses, etre
ble of holding nearly 2000 Hogsheads of Sugar, w ith Cooperage
Sheds, Stables, and othir Buildings; and dry arct.ed Ceays ma
der, capable of holding 600 puncheons of Rum. They have A
capital hauling-way from Marsh-street, and extend its depth frail
thence 160 feet, or thereabout, ; from whence branching off
the right and left ; they extend from a place called Glastonba
court, up to Baldwin-street, a depth of 190 feet ; where there
an exceedingly good DWELLING-HOUSE, with every cony
nience, built by the Proprietor for his own residence, and w
calculated for the residence of'an acting Partner, in a very
Mercantile Concern.

'I he Ground on which the Premises stand comprises
area of nearly 17,000 square feet; and is subject to the vs
small ground rent of 19. Ins. and 11. 10s. paid to the town
Tetbury, as bread money.
From the contiguity of these Premises to the Quay, asd all
Public Offices, added to the trifling expence of converting tbt
into Bonded Warehouses, and the probability of the East lot

trade being thrown open, it Is presumed they will prove a •
valuable acquisition to Gentlemen wishing to putehase props
of that description.
Also, all that well.built and substantial FREEHOLD .MJ
SUAGE or D WELLING-HOUSE, adjoining Clare-street H
called or known by the µante of The SHIP TAVERN, and n
in the occupation of Mr. Townsend, ai tenant-at-wid, who
for seine years carried on most respectable and lucrative put
concern in the said House. -

well-uudt and auhanuttial FfirriHOLD M
SUAGF. or 1/WALLING-HOUSE, adjoin': g the Ship Tare
sod now in the tn.cupation of Mr. Meicer, Baker, as tenant-at
will, in which said premiers the taking business has been sir
prosperously carr.ed on for many viers.
C are-street Hall may be viewed any day by applying to
Houston, on the Premises; and the two Do, elliwe-lioe. es ad*
ins, by applying to the respective tt Dents; but fur further Part
culars and to treat for the purchase by pi teat e contract, apply,'
by letter, post-paid, to the Broker, Nu. 10, Doh's-street,
A Plan of the PrOgete rut baleen ;it kbu Gamma

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INDIA HOUSE.

Yesterday a very'numerous Meeting of the Pro-
prietors of East India Stock took place at the India-
1-lotre, for the purpose' of taking into consideration
the Resolutions which had been proposed at the for-
mer Conn:- At twelve o'clock the CHAMIAN en-
tered; with a number of the Directors.
The Minicar' said, they were-again met to tilt&
into further consideiatiod the Papers which had been
laid before the Court on a former occasion. As Par-
liament would meet early in the next month, it was
Most desirable that the Court of Directors should be
early informed of the opinion of the Proprietors.—
Since their last Meeting he had received a letter from
the Earl .of Buckinghamshire, which, as the most
regular mode, he would read as a part of his speech.
The letter stated, that, having observed that a Gen-
' tleman of the name of Davis had stated that a vessel
named the Rodney had arrived at Madras when he
(Lord B.)4ai Governor, in 1795, and that the Cap-
tain was unable to dispose of his investment, and thkt
it Was at tast.disposed of by lottery; be•:( Lord B.)
now thought it necessary to declare, ,fcitTaar of. any
impttiper inference being drawn, that, ifissels & Cir
cumstance had taken pike, it had entirely escaped;
his memrry. He remembered that a vessel named
the Hillsborough lied arrived at Machitituring his
and that it steas.neciuxii to dispatch .
id immediately,-on the pudic service.
of her signified to him -(Lord B.) that
utterly ruined. In consequence of this
, fie (Lord 13.) authorised an agent to
go, he , (Lord B.) making himself re-
the amount of it. The cargo•lvas sold;
not }Ave been sold at a lois, for he was
on to make it up. The worthy Chair-
ight it his duty to read this letter to
aPprehended that it ought not to inter-
liscussion before them.
thought this letter demanded some .ex-
his part, on this important point. He
Ime ago, contended that the trade with
as open as was serviceable to the coun-
:e was no one year of his commercial
could have shipped' 5000 tons of goods,
so disposed. At ne period last year
ships lying at Calcutta, the Captains
itioned Lord Minto to take the goods,
iarkets were so glutted with •European
1795 he was at Madras; when the
'ved : she was freighted and consigned,
in 'he last debate. He had no doubt
iould bring the circumstance to Lord
irance. The Captain of her (Carruthers)-
tt a private party, and he (Mr. Davii)
um memory, but he was strongly of
his name stood at the head of the list
to the lottery which was set on foot
of Captain Carruthers. 'However that
new case of the Hillsborough, con-
:d B.'s letter to the Chairman, made
for his (Mr. Davis's) argument. For,
he was actuated by oo private motives
iiestion, but was only anxious that the
of this country should not be misled.
,MAN here interrupted the worthy Gen-
tying. that the Court-was perfectly sa-
le explanation which he had given.- •
:or, %hose name we did not learn said,4
ipossible the exports to India could 1*
the country; for the Merchants of the
ild soon complain of the mad delusion
.en held out to thesis. But borne away,
at present; these obliging Gentlemen
.ports) would undertake the China trade
its own part, he conceived the Charter
They were now without an enemy in
!ir own exertions; and was that a time
r•theierights, when they stood on so
minence. Ile hoped that Parliament
if against a delusion, which would be
; City, and most injurious to the coun-
Was that system to be destroyed by
ienies of ridiculous speculators, whose
Iws into this country, invigorates its
increases its marine ? He could not
ible that Parliament would submit to
lierefore relied on the wisdom, equity,
policy of the Legislature, to save their
my that means to prevent injury to the

ANT said, that there had been some
Int in other,plates, out of their doors,
, of Proprietors wished to stifle all dis-
iere could be nothing more unfounded;
he W 25 glad that an Honourable Pro-
. Hume) had tried the experiment how
position, both as to quantity and quality,
The Hon. Proprietor had accused
:h reprobating, in too strong terms, the
domineering language of Ministers ;
had made as bold a charge against
Directors ; for at a time when they
• themselves on that meeting for coun-
irt, he had charged them with the base
1g all this with a view of preserving to
whole of the Indian patronage. As
'al course of that Gentleman's argu-
Id satisfy the Court in a few words that
)r the most part, .irrelevant, inconclu-
Founded in fact. The advantages which
is had enjoyed in this trade were cr-
ud in the Resolutions which had been
lastmeeting ; but the worthy Gentle-
;ondescer.ded to say from whence they
advantages ; he had said not one word
of them, their neutral impunity. The
the worthy Gentleman would have
relevant if they had been discussing
Council, or the opening of the Conti-
He had also argued as if the trade
idChina had suffered no increase under
;tablished by the Company. The indigo
said, had only been brought to perfec-
:ertions of private individuals ; at the
ie, his own statement proved that those
ever c&uld have done what they had,
tssittance of the Company. For these
laces of individual success (to use the
:man's own language) were not wor-
.. The worthy Gentleman had also

.eatest reliance on Mr. Colebroke's opi.
irned out, however, to be that of Mi.
mon of a most speculative disposition,

and one deeply eondeeted with the private.. trade a..
India. After these scattered remarks be would ask'
if, (admitting all the evils to exist in tie present sys-
tem), they were pet well worth enduring, rather
than proceed to tho dreadful political alternative pro-
posed. For his own part, he should hope that this
systeth that had stood so long with advantage to the
.country, and to -many millions in Asia, would norbe
destroyed for any supposed political advantage what-
ever. In viewing the arguments carried on between
Ministers and the Coast of Directors, the latter say
it is impossible for them to go on with the profits
arising from the China trade. To this Ministers
give some vague answers; and when they are asked
for an explicit one, they very coolly tell the Direc-
tors, that they are, very welcome to hunt in the Jour-
nals of the House of Commons for it. From the im-
mense profits arising from smuggling, being no less
-than 95 per cent. on tea. From the extreme facility
that would be acquired for carrying on that
trade among the almost countless islands of the
dian Archipelaips, and from the extreme difficulty OP
preventing such a trade, there was the greatest pro-
; bability that the'Company's trade with China would
be shaken to its foundation by the throwing open of
-the Indian trade. Even. Dr. Adam Smith, that ora-
tie of their opponents, but who, Hitt other 'oracles,
is not always understood by his own priests, declares
that it is most diffitttlt for any Government to put a
check.on illicit traffic: When Ministers were called
on to 'declare the exact and specific measures they
intended to adopt for the prevention of the illicit
shipping of tea in the Indian seas, and its illicit intro-
duction into this country, they talked of some em-
bargo measure; such as, that the vessels were to be
prevented from 'running along the coast of Ireland
and Scotland. But that could easily be surmounted.
Except a proposed extension of the Manifest Act,
they had proposed nothing for the prevention of its
being shipped in the Indian Seas. And what uti-
lity would that be of among the numerous islands
iii those seas, many of them larger than Great Bri-
tain, and among which we have neither Custom..
house Officers nor Consuls ? When they were aboet
to resign this important traffic into the hands of pri-
vate adventurers, it might have been expected that
they would have held out some hope that they would,
be able to prevent them from .an illicit traffic, to
which they have great temptations and lavish oripor-
(unities. But the schemes which the wisdom of
nisters has produced, gave them evils in the gross,l
and remedies in -the detail ; 'all that was bad in
their plans was certain, and all that was good
contingent. The increase of intercourse, too, be-
tween Europeans and the natives of Hindostan,
was ominous to theace of India, and equally
ominous to the safety of our own country.—
By some this was considered as a phantom of the
imagination ; but could any one be so ignorant of
past history as to believe it so ? What greater clan.;
ger to a State could be apprehended, thanan uncon.:
trolled intercourse between the most enterprising na..
(ion on earth, and one of the most pusillanimous—
between presuming strength and unresisting weak-',
neis ? A charge has been brought against the Com-
panyand its servants of injurious haughtiness in the
discharge of their duty ; and it had been said, that
this would not be the case with private merchants,
who must be civil and oosequious to their customers.
A proof of this charge, however, he had only been
able to glean from a publication well known for its'
servility and abusiveness, the Edinburgh Review. But
many of these private merchants belong to places tor-
merlyengaged in the African Slave Trade, and might
employ persons who had' been accustomed to all its
scenes. Nobody could accuse him of libelling private
British merchants ; for he thought that Britain do.
served the charac tet of Tyre of old-4, Her merchants
are princes, and her traffic is the honour of the earth."
The free Merchants under the Company's different
establishments in India now are a most respectable
class of men—none more so. But in Lord Clive's
time, they were composed of lower characters, who
were guilty of the greatest inhumanity towards the
natives. But still it was not right, out of respect to
the private British merchant, to compliment away
the happiness of our fellow•creatures in distant parts.
From what Exchequer would they find a remedy for
the broken heart of an empire, consisting of 60 mil-
lions of people ? If its welfare were shaken (as by
carrying the question-of r.n open trade it would be),
it were easier for the British Barliament to cover the
face of the Company's possessions with statutes of
security and indemnity to the proprietors of stock,
&c. than to re-establish peace and social order in
those immense dominions. He hoped the-Govern-
ment would think better of it, and support the views
of the Directors.

A Proprietor observed, that the speech of Mr.
Hume 4ppeared fitter to be pronounced before the
merchants of Liverpool than before that Company.
Many had asked what had become of the profits of
the China trade ? He should answer generally, that
it had been employed in making conquests which
were of no material advantage to the Company, but
added to the greatness of the British empire. •
Mr. ItAPEY said, that hp. was very glad that the
speech of the Hon. Proprietor (Mr. Hume) had been
heard with so much attention. He hoped that it
would be published and generally distributed. He
was confident that it would be of much service to the
Company that it should be so distributed. He con-
sidered the speech of the Honourable Gentleman to
be the speech of the Minister—the statement of Lord
Buckinghamshire.
Mr. Hume spoke to order.—He had never spoken
to Lord Buckinghamshire, nor seen him to his know-
ledge : it :'as, therefore,.unfair to call his speech the
speech of Lord Buckinghamshire.
Mr. Istria' said, that whether he had ever seen
Lord Buckinghamshire or not, still his speech might
be considered as the speech of Ministers; ands he
thought that it was proper, inasmuch as Lord Buck-
inghamshire was before the public as well as the
Company, that his statement should be as generally
circulated. He was convinced, that if Ministers had
no better arguments to offer than what were adduced
by the Hon. Gentleman, the country would be of
opinion that the Company was in the right. Great
praise WAS certainly due to the industry of the Hon.
Gentleman, for collecting such a number of facts as
he had adduced in his speech. He, however, did not
think, that although the speech of that Gentleman
had occupied Considerably more than three hours,
one-thirtieth part of what. he had said bore at all
upon what was die real question. The questign was

72prWhetlier the Compaspsheed swot that
t trade, which for two cennuies had been
to the port 'of London, should in. future be
. .
Aledfinted among the out-ports. Aps to his fasts,
W diould not quarrel with him ahont them. Thq
anotto. to Tristram Shand?' was a proposiii
be firmly assented to,—That it was opinions, anil
not facts, which produceditateady all the troubles of
mankind. The difference of the Company With the
Government was on fdndamental principles, which no
facts that could be adduced would ever be able -th
shake. The very existence of the Company appeared
to him at stake ; and the question for the Court of
Proprietors to decide was, whether they would desert
their Directors in the arduous and manly struggle is
which they are now engaged with his Majesty's Mi-
nisters, or whether they should support them with
heart and hand ? (ifolosiie.) It was not sufficient
that they should be themselves convinced of the jos.
Lice of their cause, but they had reason to hope.aatat
they would have the good ,wishes of an enlightened
public, and the support of men of great talents in Par:
liament, who would be able finally to obtain a verdict
in their favour, the cry which was set up against the
CoMpany reminded him of the old story of the MMe
hers complaining of the inactivity of the belly. Tbe
Company was not inactive. It had been constantly
occupied in preparing for the natives of India a mild
and beneficent system of Government. It had always
Attentively considered whetherany of our maim:fie.
tures would suit the markets of the East, and in that
case it exported them generally w its own loss. If, nit
the other hand, any thing, which was the produce of
the East, was wanting to our manufacturers, it care-
fully provided a supply. The present question, how.
ever, was far more important in a political view than
in a commercial. It involved the stability of our Con-
stitution, to which this country had so long been in-
debted for its happiness. It was impossible to transfer
India, and all its patronage, to the Ministers, withosse
destroying the Constitution. Mr Pitt, and all thegreal
statesmen we have had, always viewed the subjects!,
the same light ; and it'was on those principles that be
renewed the Charter in 1793. The Late Lord Mel-
ville, in a letter in the year 1802, stated, "That the
ostensible Government in India, with its patronage,
must remain as it now is, and that, this could not be
questioned by any one who did not wish to risk the
freedom of his country for his own personal aggran-
dizement ;" and yet, now Ministers talked lightly
of taking this to themselves, unless the Company
should consent th the proposals they now make.—
The only title on which the East IndiaCompaay held
their power. was a grant of the Great Mogul to their
predecessors;—on this ground, they had made war
and treaties of peace. 'The authority of the Mogul
was gone, but the name was still reverenced ; and if
the people of India were told that the East India
Company no longer existed, what mischiefs might
not ensue ?—they might imagine that they were all
transferred to a new master, and their allegiance•
would, no doubt, be extinguished. If the Company
could nct be said to have a legal right to the empire
of the East, they had at least a moral and equitable
claim. India had been conquered at their risk and
expence ; and even since the renewal of the present
charter, the French and Dutch had been expelled,
the ,Mahommedans and Hindoos had been subdued,
and the Islands of Ceylon, Java, and the Mauritius,
had been added to the empire. The natives lived in
peace and tranquillity under, the present govern-
ment, the excellence of which had not been denied
even by the Honourable Proprietor (Mr. Hume) ;
even the enemies of the Company had ceased to
revile it. Lord Melville had . said in the House of
Commons, that the States under the subjection of
the India Company htd attained a degree of happi-
ness unknown under their former masters ; and their
lands, compared with those of their neighbours, were
like a cultivated garden contrasted i ith the garden
of a sluggard. Such had been Lord Melville's
opinion, and such had been the opinion of Mr. Pitt ;
and opposed to the sentiments of these great men,.
we have now the suggestions and surmises of their
puny successors. He should be sorry to speak offen-
sively and personally of any one ; but the statements
of Lord Buckinghamshire appeared to him confused,
unintelligible, and contradictory. If it were true, that
Ministers had in contemplation a new system of go-
vernment for India, which would do more good than
the present, then it became them, who were nut merely
holders of India stock, but also British subjects, to
consider the general good as paramount to their own ;
what were their particular interests compared with
the good of millions (Hear, hear).—But if the present
system produced certain happiness, while the advan.
tages of the other were only problematical, then let
them not suffer themselves to be sacrificed to the
petty profits of a few adventurers : let not the limbs
of the Company. be scattered among the Out-ports,
as a bonus for the loss of the Atherican trade.—(4-
islaute.)- -The Company desired to see these argu-
ments which had influenced the Ministers to their pre-
sent opinions: but no information was given. If the
Company was to be destroyed, surely it was but fair
that it should, like the hero of old, demand to perish
in the light. In the correspondence between the Di.
rectors and the Government, the Directors, who
were surely competent to form an opinion on this
subict, had hinted at the increased danger of
smuggling in opposition to this, an Honourable
oprietor had quoted the opinion of a Commis-
sioner of the Customs, who stated that the most
smuggling - existed on the River Thames.--...
This observation made against the Hon. Proprietor's
argument ; for if the Government could not, with all
their vigilance, prevent smuggling on the Thames,
which was immediately under their eye, how would
they be able to prevent it in the numerous docks and
creeks in Scotland and Ireland? The struggle in
which the Directors were now engaged was ardu-
ous and full of difficulties ; but when he saw, the
merchants of the first commercial city in the world
rushing forward to their assistance, he did not de-
spair of success. This was not the first battle which
the Company had had to fight ; in 1784 they had to
contend with a Minister of the greatest talents and
most finished eloquence, supported by two-thirds of
the House of Commons, and backed by some of the
highest families in the kingdom. The Company
stood firm, and he failed (ilisrlause), a lasting proof
of the sure consquences which must ensue, when
private ambition attacks great public interests.—
When it is considered that 100,000 tons of shipping,
and 14,000 seamen, were employed, and 30,000 de-
pendents existed under the Company, Ministers must

atneirpause, before, for contingent good, they 0,11,0
signed the ast-India Company to destruction.
concluded by observing, that he thought the Reid, 4
lions wduld be better if worded more shortly. .
Mr. HORACE l'eriss stated, in defence tithe cast
pans,' that if they were monopolists, they were tasohha
polists only in expence ; that it was unjust, that the
advantages which they bad perchased by their blnni
and wealth, should now be transferred to other 3 -
and that those should reap who had never cout..,
to sow ; that the East India Company would not ea.
joy the profits of the extension, nor the fair -
but the smuggler; that this illicit trade could not, a,
was supposed, be checked by regulations, as
in the exportation of bullion, notwithstanding ,
penal enactments ; but smuggling could no more
checked by the statute-hook, than vice could be
pressed by proclamation, or disease extirpated by
of Parliament. He concluded by staling. that it In-
a bad time to choose for a political experiment, r,...
that the commonwealth was in danger.
Mr. PLOMEIt enlarged on the clangers of ,
tion and smuggling be thought the resolutions
much in detath
Mr. RANDLE Jetsam said, that the quest
fre them involved the awful altersistive, 'who
they
would consent to the imports of India r
brought to the out-ports of this country, or Whet)
other means should be suggested by his Mr.
Ministers, for the Government of India The ,
lutions which had been proposed evinced no ordi
powers of mind: they had been opposed by
demon, of whose speech, however long, he hat
an milked auditor, and whose numerical. state
were so strong on the face of them,
answered, tlAt Gentleman would go out cf'
the
with advantage. He should attempt to answer
details. It had been hinted that he was the adl
of Lord Buckinghamshire; he wished, if it wet
that Noble Lord had sheen as much discernment
his transactions with the Directors, as he had it
choke of his advocate. The Honourable Gent'
began his speech by doing away the charge _
gance which had been imrnputed to his Lordship,
thus ingeniously, at his commencement, by •
fence.of Miuisters, bringing over to his side all
persons, who, for whatever purposes, were far
of Administration. He considered the letter of
Buckinghamshire, as the letter of the Cabinet,
the exception of Lord Melville, who could bar
supposed so soon to have altered his expressed
menus. He did not know that Peer ' • it he had
honour, he should advise him to tread the steps
father, whose whole life was marked by consistency
of conduct. The Honourable Proprietor he'd
rowed the subject, by saying it was merely a commer,
cial one : and no doubt these were his sentiment, -
if he had supposed it was loaded with polii
consequences, he would hardly have so
that Government, and that Indian system
ministration, which his arguments tended
stroy. He says, that he wishes for no radical change
yet in his amendment, he talks of regulations -
provisons to be framed, when the political power
the Company is annihilated, and the Eastern
is no more. Nothing could be motirinconsistent
the above declaration, and the subseouent
ment. It had been asked, wily the Directors
said nothing of indemnification ? it vrouldsurelv
more naturally from the Government. Tha
nification must be large and liberal; indeed,
filters, (not even Jonathan Wild and his
would venture to propose such an alteration, .
the amplest recompence. What ! were the ports,
warehouses, the garrisins of the Company, to
given up for the protection of those who were coin
loose on their commerce—i-and no indemnificatioi
The proposition was monstrous : no compensation
had been mentioned, because the negative was
I base an idea to be entertained by any person.
1793, Lord Melville had partially opened the
at the same time declaring that the Company
still, and must still preserve its replaced monopole
It would be better for Ministers still to adhere to
system ; or, at least, to have amended the
rather than attempt to subvert it. But the
of England will not suffer such men as the
Ministers to overthrow the. system. Mr. Fox,
all his mighty talents, fell under the attempt—
and it will never be endured that ignobler
tures shall lake that spoil for which the lion
destroyed for attempting to seize...(cipidasue.)—'
`Hon. Proprietor, in his financial statement, had
that after the extension of the trade, the private
had increaseed, in five years, from 0181,000,
£BOO,OOO, and, in ten years, to three millions.
under whose auspices had it so risen t It was
the care and protection of that system which
Honourable Gentleman wished to subvert. The
was true, but the inference was very different
drawn by the Hon. Gentleman. As to the licences
which had been granted by Lord Wellesley, :
nisters ought to blush at such an argument.—
The distresses which induced Lord Wellesley -
necessary act, arose, because the funds of the
pony had been applied to other than commercial
objects ; they were applied to those great and
glorious purposes which had raised the renown of
the British name over Europe, and over the world.
Mr. Dundas admitted, that the objects of Govern-
ment and the Company were both the same 1--that
the monopoly was essential to our Indian Empire ;
that he was prepared to state that it had become inter-
woven with the whole interests of the country ' • and
that it had grown to more importance to the State
than to the Company. Government acted only on
the representations of interested individuals. Lord
Buokinghainshirehadnot detailed them ; but saidthat
they were on the table of the House of Commons.—
On those petitions his Lordship bad acted and com-
mitted himself: yet they contained propositions which
no man of ordinary sense could agree to. A great
proportion of them, indeed, related to Parliamentary
Reform, and the Catholic Question. He hope that
when those questions came into the House of Lords.
the Noble Lord would remember his partiality
to his beloved friends the petitioners, whose op
nions on India he so much esteemed, but all.) made
that subject only the means of introducing the others-
Much of what Mr. Hume said, both the Compaq
and Government were bound to answer. That Gen-
tleman was not very irrelevant in what he said of
America ; but he (Mr. R. J.) had always hoped,
with respect to the shifting of the seat of trade, that
whenever the renewal of the Charter was considered,
(for the sttbversiv of it be never dreamt of), the ea

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311flpt1:91r interence
cumstance had talc
his tnemrry. He
the Hillsborough
Government, and
her. to England im
The Captain of he
he should' be utter]
representation, lie
take the cargo, h
spcnsible for the ar
and it could not I*
never called on to
man had thought
them, but he appr
fere with the discu
Mr. DAVIS thou
planation on his p
had, some time a
India was just as c
try; and these w
life but he could h
If he had been so c
there were SO ships
of which petitioned
because the make
rticles. In 179:
Aodney arrived :
. as he stated in 'h,
but that he should
B.'s remembrance.
met Lord B. at a p
now spoke from
opinion that his
of subscribers to 0
-for the relief of C;
might be, the nev
tained in Lord B
full as much for li
his own part, he
in this-great questi
manufacturers of tl
The CIIAiRSIAN
tlernan, by saying,
tisfied with the tap
A Proprietor,
that it was impossi
`maintitned by the
.Out-ports would s(
.which had been be
.is tbiy were at •
(of tbe Out-ports)
also.', 'For his •ow
'was notond..
India, by their ow
to take away 'the
Wroud a pre-emine
ould be proof ag
the ruin of this Cit
try at large. Wal
the mad schemes
influence flows in
finances, and incr
believe it possible
it • and he therefi
and enlarged polic
tights, and by th
country. ,
Mr. R. GRANT
'lints thrown out i
that the Court of
cussion. There cc
and for one, he w
prietpr (Mr. Hum
much of opposition
they could bear.
the Court with rep
dogmatic and dotr
but he himehlf hat
the Court of Dire
were throwing thet
sel and support, he
motive of doing al
.emselves the wh(
or the general c
milts, he could sa
they were, for the
sire, and not fount
the Americans ha
pressly admitted is
proposed at the las
man had not condi
• erived those adva
os the source of th
arguments of the
been perfectly Tele
the Orders in Com
vernal Ports. He
with India and Chi
e system establis
trade, lie also said,
ion by the exertion
ery same time, hi
adividuals never c
• ithout the assistar
nsulated instances
•onhy Gentleman
y of notice. •I
.laced the greatest
ion, which turned
4 a mon

on. He
r Res°
Iy.
the Com.
re moiaa,
th,it the
leir birs4
1(11* hat3Cl
otributed
Id not en.
Lit gate,
ld not, a,
I was teez
ngallthe
more be
d be Rip
red by at:
bat it sea-
lent, r,..!
colotin.
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trbet!•lr
dia 10;n?
r wherht‘•
Majesty',
7he
out i•
PT a Ger.
had bee
tote nen.%
UnleS!
the Court
wer these
advocate ii
were so, c
•nment in
lad in thu
lentlernar(
;e of arm. •.
Lordship,
I his de.
r all these
favourers
r of Lord
iner, with
hardly be •
Jed send.
had that
tees of his
)nsistency
• had rut-
IcornMer• L
merits, for
political •
a praise 4 '
n of Ad.
hi to de.
I changes
[ions and r
power of
rn empire •
;tent that
t amend•
rctors had •
rely come
is Judea.
d, no MI•
wt gang) .
1, pitchout
ports, the
iy, to be
e toile let
ification r
ipensation
was too
rson. In •
the trade,
ay should
lonopoly.
le to that
le system,
he people •
e present
Fos, with '•
Ittempt—
>bier na•
lion was
4)—The
had said,
ate traffic
1,000, to
as. But,
✓as under t.
rhich the
The fact
ot to that
e licences
sley, Mi.
ey to that
the Com•
mmercial
Peat and
enown of
he world.
Govern.
te s---that
Empire ;
inc inter-
try ; and
the State
only on
ls. Lord
t said that
mons.—
and corn-
Gins which
A great
amentary
hope that
at Lords,
partiality
hose opi•
112..) made
be others-
OompanT
'hat Gen-
ie said of
s hoped,'
ade, that
insidere4
, the net