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Abercromby, lin. J. Egerton, W. Palmer, C. Fische
Allen, J. H. Fergusson, Sir R. C. Palmer, Colonel
Althorpe, Viscount Fitzroy, Lord J. Pares, T.
Acland, T. D. Folkeston,Viscount Phillips, G. R.
Astley, Sir T. D. Fraokland, R. Fowled. Hon. W.
Beaumgnt, T. W. Fane, John Price, R.
Barham, J. F. jun. Fleming, Jobn Proby, lion. Capt.
Baring, Sir Thomas Graham, Sandford Pym, Francis
Barnard, Viscount Guise, Sir %V. Plumber, John
Barrett, S. M. GiPPg, a Ramsden, J. C.
Bennett, Hon. H. G.Gascoyne General Ridley, Sir M. W.
lienyon, Benj. Halclimand, W. Roberts, Ab.
Bernal, Ralph IlamUton Lord A. Robarts, G.
Birch, J. Heron, Sir R. Robinson, Sir G.
Brougham, Henry Hill, Lord A. Rumbold, Charles
Bright, 11. Ilobbouse, J. C. Russell, Lord John
Bury, Viscount Honywood, W. P. Rice, J. S.
Baillie, John Howard, Hon. W. Rogers, Edward
Rougher, Sir J. F. Hughes, W. L. Smith, Hon. Robert
Bentiuck, Lord W. Hume, Joieph Smith, J.
Bastard, Edward Ilurst, Robert Smith, W.
li.istard, J. P. Heber, Richard Smith, George
Butterworth, J. James, W. Smith, Robert
Burrell, Sir C. Johnson, Colonel Scarlett, J.
Burrell, Walter Jervaise, G. P. Scudamore, R.
Boughton, Sir C. R. Jones, John Sefton, Hari of
Buxton, J. J. Knatcbbull, Sir E. Scott, John
Benett, John King, Sir J. D. Sebright, Sir John
Chaloser, Robert Keck, G. A. L. Stewart (Tyrone), W.
Carter, ohn Lambton, J. G. Sasurfkle, W. H.
Cavendish, Lord G. Lemon, Sir W. Stuart, Lord J.
C.avendisb, Henry Leonard, T. B. Shelley, Sir John
Cavendish, C. Lloyd, Sir E. Sykes, D.
Caulfield, Hon. IL. Leycester, Ralph Taylor, M. A.
Clifton, Lord Lethbridge, Sir T. Tierney, Rt. Hon. G.
Coffirs Sir Isaac Luttrell, H. F. Tulk, C.A.
Concannon, Lucius Luttrell, J. F. Thompson, Wm.
Crompton, Samuel Lawley, F. Tennywin, C.
Curwen, J. C. Maberley, John Townsend, Lord C.
Creevey, T. Maberley, W. L. Warre, J. A.
Chetwynde, G. Macdonald, James Webbe, Edward
Curteis J. Z. Mackintosh, Sir J. Whitbread, W. H.
Cole, Sir C. Martin, J. Whitbread, S. C.
Chandos Marquis Maxwell, J. Wilkins, W.
Corbett, P. Musgrove Sir P. Williams, T. P.
Calvert, N. Marjoribaidts, S. Williams, W.
DeCrt•sylgny, Sir W.Normanby,Viscount Wilson, Sir Robert
Davies, T. H. Neville, lion. R. Winisington, Sir T.E.
Denison, W. J. Newman, R. W. Wood, Aidernum
Denman, Thomas Nugent, Lord WyvUl, hi.
Dundas, lion. T. O'Callaghan, Colonel Wells, John 4
Davenport, D. Ord, W. Wldtmore, W. W.
Dickluson, W. °swipe, Lord .....—.
Deethurst. Lind Outraw. Lord
Kbrington, Vistmest Olvem, Sir J.
NEW, Edward Oraniety, Sir F.

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know from the Noble Earl (Liverpool) what opinion be enter-
tained on the subject in question, if not as a Minister, at least as
a man? If the agriculturists of the country were to be left at the
mercy of a Committee of the other House of Parliament, then
he (Lore King) would say, " from such mercy good Loan dab-
, ver us !" • He hoped the Noble Earl .would have no objection,
briefly to state his opinion on the subject.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said that the Noble Lord, in ado
vetting to the Bill of 1815, had characterised it in terns of tin.
just severity. The Noble Lord said it was a Bill for raising the
price of corn; but if he referred to the debates on the motion,
he would find, that before she passing of the Bill, the minimum
price was 80s. whereas, after it passed, the maximum was only
to that amount. He (the Earl of Liverpool) contended that the
Bill had not the effect of raising the price of corn : but that it
reilso Ireland the supplying of the deficiencies from the
- respect to the Conamittee of the othei Ilona*
of Parliament he thought that no measure they might decide
upon fur altering the Corn Laws would tend to relieve agricule
tural distress. For himself, he was decidedly against raising the
price of corn ; but looking at the question in all its bearings, he
thought it might be expedient to adopt different regulations re-
specting importation from those which now existed. He sub-
mitted it to thiir Lordships, whether it would not be expedient
to adopt some specific scale of duty, to prevent a change from all
prohibition whatever to an excessive prohibition?
The Earl of DARNLEY was willing to take share of any
blame that might attach to the Corn Bill of 1815, while, at the
same time, be was ready to admit that nothing but necessity
could have justified the measure. He had, upon that occasion,
differed in opinion from 'a Noble Iford whom be now saw its
his place (Lord Calthorpe), but Is: thought the measure nicer.
sary to protect the farmer from being ohliged to sell his tern
below a remunerating T I ice. The agriculturists had now a com-
plete monopoly, and nothing fuither was wished except such
regulations as should give that monopoly complete effect. He
certainly thought it would be well, when the measure should
come down from the other I louse that, their Lordships should
have some data to go upon ; bat he did not see that any legisla-
tive enactment could afford a remedy fur agricultural distress,
which arose from a great variety of causes over which the Le-
gislature could have no controul. There was one evil only to
which a remedy could be applied, and that was excessive tax-
ation. He had heard it asserted with great surprise on a former
sight, that the farmer could not be benefited by a remission
of taxation being effected only of those which he paid on the
farm he occupied ; but their Lordships ought to recollect that
the pressure of general taxation operated against him in a variety
of ways, one of which was that he had to send his corn to a
neighbouring market where it could not find buyers. -
The LORD CHANCELLOR here intimated to the Noble
Earl that the course he was pursuing was irregular, there being
no motion before the House.

The Earl of DARNLEY apologized for having trespassed on
their LoKdships' time, and said he should conclude with expres-
sing his hope that Ministers would see the necessity of reducing
taxes, insread of endeavouring to keep up the price of the Funds.
The Earl of 'ILES IN TON did not rim for the purpose of
prolonging the present conversation, his object being only to ask
a question of the Noble Earl (Liverpool). A plan had hien sub-
mitted, some time ago, by a person named l'ottinger, for regu-
lating distilleries in' Ireland, which, hr miderstood, had been are.
proved of by a Noble Lord and the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer ; and be now wished to know if any further proceedings
had taken place respecting it ?
The Earl of LIVERPOOL, wishing to 'avoid any irregula-
rity by prolonging the conversation, moved that the House do
now adjourn. With respect to the question put to him by the
Noble Earl who had just sat down, he could only say that be
would make the necessary inquiries on the subject, and then
communicate to him the result.
' Lord CALTHORPE, in the course of a few observadons.
Said; that the Corn All of 181 s•had failed in its object, Incas-
sequence of the incorrect mode o 1 taking the averages. •
Their Lordships then Adjounml.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Mr. O'GRADY presented a Petition ftom the Grand Jar'
of the County and City of t.ituerick against the Irish Grand
Jury Act.—Laid on the table. .
Mr. LAW LUX presented a Petition from the Freeholders of
the County of Warwick, complaining of Apiculture' Distress....
Laid on the table.
Mr. P. ;It RN FELL moved for Returns of the quantity of
Copper imported into Great Britain up to the sth of January,
1824, distinguishing the difeteDt sorts, the countries from
whence, and the portiinto which it had been imported. Also,
for the o,uantity of Copper expottcd in the same time, with the
same particular* • also, fur the quantity exported from the Port
of London.—Ordered.Sir WILipIAM LEMON moved for similar Returns of the
importation and
iondaned exportation at Tin up to the sth di January,
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Mr. R. SHAW gave 'notice, that on the 17th. of Ascorao
ll lt ::
• belnilegward a motion for the repeal of ,
Zsx in Ireland. •
Upon the motion of Mr. N. Cas.vrar, a Select cesinditee
was appointed to Inqulreluto the c. a ses pursued tetra of
forimitral before J wil ices and Comas
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