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London, England, 1831-08-23 00:00:00

madam said to be mode by members of that house; and they
felt particularly hinted by what war stated to have bora said
by Alf. Sergeant Wilde.
The SPEAKER here interrupted the Honourable
Gentleman, and said that • it mai impossible to receive a
Petition, that commented on what vas said by members In
that house.
Mr. O'CONNELL said the ped:ion did not assert that
the expressions attributed to members of that house in
the newspapers, had been used by them ; and therefore,
perhaps, t ,11 petition might be received. particularly as
the petition contained other substantial frets, on which
they pray. d for redrew.
The SPBA KKR said, if the hon. and gallant member
moved that the petition be brought up, the house would
:ben deal with the petition as they thought consistent with
their own rules and p_rivileges.
Sir ROBERT INOLIS dutught the petition could not
be received.
3lr. HUM E had read the petition with great care, and
thought the objecion was merely technical, and need not
prevent the reception of the petition.
Col. EVA NS said, be was aware that he was too short a
time a member of the house to be a judge of its privileges,
and when the petition was rent to him he showed it to an
old inensser, on whose, pia;geetion it had been sent back to
the petitioners, by whom the exceptionable passages had
been expunged. He thought it was a ease in which the
house ought, if possible. to receive the petition. The press
he thought the best friend of ):beefy, and MOM enlightened
than at any former period of our history. The honour-
able gentleman moved that the petition be brought up and
Agreed to.
Toe petition was read by the Clerk. and stated, that the
petitioners had read in the newspapers several false and
scandalous allegations respecting their conduct, in speeches
*aid to he made in the House of Commons by Mr. F. Ba-
ring and 31r. Sergeant Wilde. accusing them of exciting the
people to machine-breaking and outrage. all of which alle.
;cation* they were peel ared to prove to be fa'se and wands-
loo,; and turther stated, that Mr. Sergeant Wilde had been
retained to defend the petitioner. T. Mack, but did net ar.
dye at Winchester till after the trial was over ; and was
represented as having made a speech in the Hon. House of
Commons agalost petitioner, while he bad petitioner's money
in his packet. The petition detailed all the facts of the are
rest and trial, and prayed for leave to prove them at the bar
of the House. - - _

Mr. F. BARING said, when he made his former etate.l
meat so the House he was aware that he made it in contra-
diction to eviderc.: that had been given in a court of jusate,
and that his account would be citntradicted ; but nothing in
that cootratitetion could induce him to withdraw any part of
that statement The statements in the petition were contra-
dictory to those sworn on the trial. The hen. gent here
mentioned some of the particulars in which he and the two
accounts differed. The principle of which was, that it was
sworn on the trial that Mr. Bingham airing carried Mrs.
Dead!. out of the houses and it was now stated in
the petition that he was the penal who carried bet which
yes the fart.

Sir THOMAS BARING was aware that every public
man was liable to have his character traduced. The gallant
member who had presented the petition had not had the
courtesy to give him any notice of his intention. The pe.
'him stated that he was present when the petitioners were
committed to prison He was not present, and gave no di.
wahine. Hs came In but on one occasion during their ex-
aminations, and after they left the room gave his opinion
to the Magistrates that they might be admitted to bail.
When Mr. and Mrs. Llsacle were lint apprehended, he was
eight miles distant. apprehending other offenders.
Mr. Sergeant WILDE regretted that he had not been
present when the petition was presented. In what he had
said when tie subject was formerly before the House, he
did not mean to offer any opinion on the conduct of the par.
ties. but merely to state what he knew of the circumstances
of the sounty at the time, which were such as to justify
magistrates in executing warrants in person.
Mr. HUME thought any one who heard the Learned
Sergeant on the former occasion would have supposed that
he had spoken from better authority than depositions that
had been proved to be false. Mr. Deade had been charged
with a conspiracy, as was the infamous conduct of the pre.
sent day, when no distinct offence could be proved. The
Learned Sergeant endeavoured to mix Mr. Derck up with
seven other persona, who were hanged or transported, though
there was no evidence against him. The question did not
retard Mr. and Mrs. Dewitt, but the administration of jus-
tke—whetber the country was to have responsible magis-
trates. Was It ever before beard in British history, that a
woman should be handcuffed ? He would ask his honour.
able friend the member for Kerry, whether be had ever
heard of a woman being handcuffed in Ireland 1°
Mr. O'CONNELL said, be neva bad.
Mr. HUME resumed; it was never before known in
England; the house should esquire into the twannission of
such cruely in the administration of the law. If the boa
member ordered Mrs. Deacie to be handcuffed-of course he
would say so—h was of immence importance. It was al.
leged that the movables objected to it. The fact of hand-
cuffing was not denied, and justice required that the bon.
member who presented the petition should name an early
day for the enquiry, that the public might know that the
magistrate s, guilty of cruelty, should nut he continued in
power; and that if the charge against the magistrates was
unfounded, that it might be dieptoved, and that in either
ease the public might be satisfied that jus ice would be duly
adm Marred. _ _

Mr. FERGUSON though it might be taken for granted
that • great part et the statements of the petition were es-
aggerated, as no larger damage. than S3l. was given Still
ordering Mrs. Deeds to be handcuffed, was an act of such
barbarity, that if it had been ordered by any magistrate, or
any member of that house, it would be highly improper that
he should be allowed to continue in either situation.—
(Hear, hear.) Mr. and 3lra. Dssele bad certainly great
cause of complaint. lira. Lleacie was dragged to gaol
like • felon, in a cart, and confined there some days, and
than dismissvd without wig, which must be taken as full
proof of her innomace. Mr. Druck was put on his trial, and
was honourably sequined, without being called on for his de-
fence. He thought they were well entitled to petition that
House for redress.

Sir GEORGE CLERK was surprised that the Chins
calor of the Elehetiner. or some Member of the Govern-
went, had not interfered to state the fast, that the petition
waa founded on statements supposed to be made by Mem-
ben of that house. Would the house allow persons. by a
palpable evasion of the orders of the house, to present peti-
tions reflecting on tie speeches and conduct of Members of
that house

Lord ALTHORP said it was true that by evasion allu-
sion was made to speeches in that house, but he thought
they ought not be very strict in taking notice of such eva-
sions, as they knee the speeches made in that house were
published • and he thought they should be poetise's:ly
cautious when the conduct of Members of that house was
called to question. He therefore should not object to the
petition lying en the table.
Mr. ESTCOURT tisought the petition contained& direct
violation of the melees of the house, and should not be re-
ceived.
O'Ct oN NELL said the honourable member did not
go half far enough to establish his own principle. There
was no order of the house better known than that no speeches
made in that house should be published. If the honourable
gentleman wanted to enforce:the orders, let him cull all the
proprietor of nee 'papers in the kingdom to the bar, an ex-
periment he was not likely to try. Then why should not
persons so deeply injured by such publications complain ?
'l he boa. gentleman's statement on a former occasion made
• strung impression on his mind in favour of Mr. B. Baring.'
and against Mr. and Mrs. Deacle. He should not say bow
what had now taken place had operated on his opinion, res-
pecting Mr. B. Baring, but it had completely removed any
unfavourable impression respecting Mr and Mrs. Deady.
They had been handcuffed and trundled to gaol in a Cat
like felons, and then it was found there was nothing on
which to bring Mrs. Dente to trial, and that the prosecution
against Mr. Deacle was given up, after hearing all the evi-
dence against him, without caliing on him for his defence.'
They were certainly well entitled to an inquiry into their
case of hanlehip. (Hear.)
Sir F. BUKUBTT thought the petition most important,
and that there was no pretence for its rejection. The peti-
tion related to the exercise of the power of magistrates; and
be had a smug impression that it was a power that required
the vigilant observation of that houie. (Hear. hear.) He
should not go into the merits of the case then, as be could
not doubt another opportunity would be &exied him : but
it would be one of the most extraordinary proceedings in the;
world if the house did not receive the petition. ( Hear.)
The question was then put, and the petithtn ordeted to 11:
on the table.

Mr. & RICE brought up the report of the Hackney
coach bill.

Ordered to be re.coianiitted this day Woolen.
COMMITTZ Of SIPPLT.
Lord ALTHUIIP moved that the house resolve itself
into a committee of supply. Ac tat o'clock, if it was the

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