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before the time of Lady Ellenberotighis unfortunate connection
he thought no man could look at the evidence who was in the pos-
session of common sense and doubt that adultery had been proved.
There had been some negligence on the part of Lord Ellenberough,
bat perhaps only such as the existing forms of society excused, or
even exacted. But beyond this the evidence proved nothing
calling upon the house to refuse the relief which the law al.
lowed in such a case. On the contrary, the evidence had most sa-
tisfactorily proved Lord Ellenborough's Haim towards his wife.
The only part of the evidence which mold be mad* the ground
of even presumptive and imaginary miscamkut an the part of the
noble lord was that of Miss Steele's evidence, whin the muscatel
Lord I:Denbo:laugh as having laughed vbs. she Naiad what she
considered an approach to levity in the mantises of Lady Ellenbo.
rahßut the evidence of that lad peeved that the LAO with
; Lord Bilitobasongh met that obseevagon was not a lough
which could be esnairead into an approbation or an indifference to
her conduct, but as that which arm ben a mind so confiding as
never to entertain as Wm of suglids• or dishonour. He did not
think that in the whole of the 'Aims them was the slightest ire.
putation upon the character of the nobb mmepleinant, and be would
therefore vote for the Bill. He would not assent, upon visionary
and presumptive grounds, to inflicts uthetendal injury by refusing
the relief which it was intended to give.
Mr. It. GRANT maintained that the case derived all its lamer.
tance from the fact of Its not having gone through the searching
ordeal of a jury and a court of law. He thought the house was
bound to see that that deficiency in the ease was made up as far
as was in the power of any of the parties before it granted relief.
In a court of law, the husband must prove that his own conduct
had been of a certain description before he could obtain a remedy.
In inquiries before that house, the husband alone could supply such
evidence as would enable the house to judge of that fact; and if
they were not prepared to open a door to a most frightful relaxation
of principle in the higher cbma, they must insist upon the produc-
tion of such evidence as would lead to a moral persuasion in their
minds that the same evidence would have procured a verdict in fa.
tour of the noble lord in a court of law. This was the principle
which he thought they were bound to act upon, and as no such
evidence was in their possession, be found himself under a moral
incapacity to support the measure before the house.
Dr. LUSHINOTON said that he could not in justice to him.
self and to all the parties concerned, consent to give a silent vote
upon this question. The duty had been cast upon him as Chan.
Mier of the Dioeese of London, to pronounce the sentence of divorce
sought by Lord Ellenborough in the Ecclesiastical Court. All be
would state with reference to that sentence was that the facts laid
before him were such as that no Judge could examine them and re-
fuse to grant the sentence at once. There was not one fact which
excited the slightest suspicion of neglect, or ill.treatment, or of col.
lusion, or any kind of connivance in the whole of the evidence laid
before him. But he had now to deal with the question as a Member
of Parliament, and to form his opinion upon new evidence un-
connected with his; former decision, and he believed that he should
do so with a mind divested of all other impressions and pre-
conceived opinions. He wished that the question had been al-
together so treated, and that the house had looked calmly and dis-
passionately to the merits of the case alone. But he would boldly
and openly assert, that the general unpopularity of Lord E. had
prejudiced his casein the consideration whichit had received at the
hands of the house, and that that, and not the peculiarity of the
case itself, had caused the unusual attention by which the
progress
of the bill had been marked. (Cheers.) He 'mew that every .
member had done his bat to divest himself of such feelings in form.
ing his opinion and giving his judgment upon the question ; but in
spite of that he could see that they had their influence in the pro-
tracted discussion and critical examinations of evidence which had
taken place. (Cheers.) There was no man who felt the unpopu-
larity of Lord Ellenborough more strongly than he did; and when
he it applied himself to a consderet of the evidence, he
tasked himself to free his mind from all such prejudice, so that
he might come to an honest and fair conclusion, and the result of
that was, that he honestly and censciendously thought Lard Ellenbo-
rough entitled to his divorce. In the whole of the evidence there
was not one word which imputed to Lord Ellenborough cruelty, con-
nivance. or collusion of any sort. What, then, were they to expect
in the nature of evidence 'to entitle a party coming before that
house to his relief ? Had they ever required more In any other
case? And if not, why was Lord Ellenborough to be selected
as an exception to all the other parties who had applied to the
house for the last twenty divorces ? He contended that they were
bound to consider the conduct of Lord Ellenborough towards his
wife, in reference to the usages and manners of high life, ac-
cording to which it was impossible but that Lady Ell.mborough
should- have had those opportunities of avoiding his observation
which had been devoted to so unfortunate an end. The only am-
biguous sentence which occurred in the whole of the evidence,
as to the conduct of Lord Ellenborough towards his unfortu-
nate lady was that in which he was stated to have met a remon-
strance of Miss Steele's with a laugh. But it was impossible for
any man to look at the whole of that lady's evidence upon the point
and not ace that the smile with which Lord Ellenhorough met that
observation was the language of a heart overflowing with confidence
and affection. The construction which had been put upon it was,
in his opinion, a construction which would occur to no upright
and honourable mind. If the conduct and actions of all men were
to be tried by such tests as those, who would be safe front impute.
dons of the vilest desetiption ? (Hear, hear.) The honourable and
learned gentleman then argued against the doitrine advanced by
the honourable member for Inverness (Mr. R. Grant) as to the
necessity of the house calling for evidence of the husband's
conduct, where there had been no trial. In the first place he
tub upon himself to aver that, for the purposes of getting at
fix truth of the facts, and of the husbands conduct, such aisle
sere almost always useless. He spoke from experience when he
tail this. In most cases the party against wthe proceed.
iris were instituted made no defence, in consideration that he was
bound in honour not to divulge what had passed between him and
the wife ; and in this manner the real facts of such cases were seldom
brought out. But, what could be said for the justice of denying a
husband relief, because the party who had Injured him was beyond
the reach of the law ? He had been but toe familiar with the de-
tails of all the cases which had come before the house within the
last fifteen years, and be could undertake to say that there had never
been one, even where the circumstances were ten thousand times
stronger against the husband, In which there bad been so complete
and sifting an examination. (Hear, hear.) To him the result of
that examination had proved that no man could conscientiously refuse
the remedy claimed by Lord Ellenborough at the hands of the
house. Upon the state of the law and the consequences to which it
led in these eases, he fully agreed in every word that had fallen
from his honourable friend, the member for Limerick. He felt with
hint the degradation which it brought upon that house, when he
saw the full attendance created upon such occasions by that vales
of putient cutiosity—(hear hear,) which was ever on the watch to
my into the domestic affairs' of private individuals. Would to Goo
that this 'night be the last of such exhibitions by which the house
should be degraded in the eyes of the country—(hear, hear.) Ile
:rusted that this was a branch of the law which would be reformed,
.seed that its place would be supplied by one which afforded equal
relief to the rich and to the poor, to the male and to the female.
With the single exception of a ease in 1801, there never had been
An instance in which divorce on the ground of adultery had been
conceded to a female by that house. The hon. and learned gentle-
inan concluded by defying any man to show a tittle of evidence in
the whole of that which had been submitted to the house, that could
justify a refusal' of the measure.
Lord L GOWER rose to congratulate the house and the country
spot, the bold and unanswerable truths by which the true character of
the question had been placed before them by the hon. and learned
gentleman who spoke last. He had grapple with the arguments of
the hon. and learned member for Inverness, and shewed them to be
wholly untenable. But what gave him still more satisfaction was the
direct manner in which the hon. and learned_gentleman had exposed
the cant and sophistry by which the bill had been opposed in other
quarters. He could not but think that some doctrines which
they had heard in that home respecting the treatment of their feet.
aers in life were better suited to some southern or eastern climes
than to the more liberal customs with which that sex were treated
amongst us, and which he could not but think were also the best
safeguards of their purity and honour. (cheers.) Regretting as he did the time which had been occupied upon this topic, he was so
fully sensible of the advantage of getting rid of such examinations,
that he hoped the discussions to which it had led would ultimately
produce an alteration of the law. (hear.)
Mr. THANT denied that he was influenced ip his decision upon
this bill by any prejudices hostile to Lord , He had
c4:11 the honour of any acquaintance with that sad wild
not therefore act from any personal feeling ; but be thought that the
conduct of the noble lord was proved by the evidence to have bees
such as did not entitle him to the relief which be slight,
The Marquis of BLANDFORD opposed' the Bill upon the
ground that, in his belief, no twelve men would have given, ei ver-
dict in Lori Ellenborough's favour in a court of law upn such evi.
`11:!1" ere had been adduced to the Aimee. That evidence bad else.
rtt: strong impression on Ms mind that there lied been collusionl,r the parties to obtain, a dOyoree Id not, wlott but aotootut.
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of which desafiptitil orated note bit iby tbe.allirtod
'Beers or those against where it wan tilvactad.s.by /swing aw with-
out protection, and mimed to every species if terepension, L
ad
kilenborough had neg ected, abendtmed. Pad es ad his wife_,
°lo‘l was therefore not entitled to • remedy fot akitirAidLidi btlied
°Lf 701 upon himself. With etch impressions-sveLhjelmipik be
nus.tl not support the further progress of the
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GEORGL CLERK coutentled that Lord Ellenborougb
lan done all that could with justice be required of kipsip
chat-
`.before
.w that House to seek a rem 4
edy , the mum peessist . of
m• It was monstrous.to say the, 111. Valdk *OW la such
"iihation was to bring forward evidence of his own innocence.

AU the domestics In Lad Ellembiougleo !telly had hew ready
for examination, and Mr. Law and WS &oh had given the most
satisfactory oviduct of the mama MMus* with which the
Noble Lord hod tooted his solhetonois Leidy, in momenta
and' under cironmumeres when they met have been of their
guar& Han hobo whims hod boo wanted, it was for
the R illembee Ise Imams to have examined the
witnesses when they were biro the Shwa. All the evidence
which had been taken fully that dies Noble Individuals,
before the time of Lad 's ashrtunate connection
with Prince each had =go. tee" of the
utmost harmony and alliedem Yet, in this, the Noble
Marquis opposite bad dem* proper to say that Ludy El enberough
had been neglected, shothasd, sod sacrificed by her husband. He
called upon the Neils Marquis to show upon what part of the evi.
duce he was jusdhd ha staking such a charge. The het was that
the truth of the cons aided no ground for such impaiadons, which
had grown out eta hal osimplomoy to blast the eissedur of his No.
ble Friend. Every elle moat have seen the miaow in which this ob-
ject had been puma by the public pewee, Al* hi the last two
months had issued bog arfleW open the quid= ea every day
when It was appointed to be ellhomeed in Padieuent. This was
done from none but what he trusted was the iingstant motive of
prejudicing the minds of Members against the truth and
justice of the ease. It done were no other Mama of the kind
conduct of Lord Elhohoosogb towards his Lady, her own letters,
written under circunalermses when her a pressiuw could only have
arisen from the fauns of her heart, fully established the point.
With regard to the aßegal neglect of his noble Mend, it so happen-
ed that, In the year IR* be was appointed to a high office in the
state, which necessarily required the devotion of a great deal of his
time to its duties. But wu he on that account to prohibit his wife
from the enjoyments in which be could not share? On the con-
trary, he acted the part of an indulgent husband, who placed un-
bounded confidence in bee honour, and then It was she fanned that
unfortunate acquaintance with Prince Schwartunberg which led to
her ultimate ruin. As the law now stood, it wits impossible they
could refuse to pole this bill without fixing a stigma upon the cha-
racter of Lord Ellenborongh which it could not deserve, if they be-
lieved the evidence, upon which they were bound to act.
Mr. MONCK was fully sensible of the necessity of the strictest
investigation in all cases of this nature which had not passed the
ordeal of • jury : but be thought there wano6im in the evidence
before them which imputed misconduct to Lord :==borough ; and
although there might not be very satisfactory evidenceto die con.
Crary, yet he could not, upon the absence of evidence, consent to in-
flict punishment.
Colonel WOOD said, be wu anxious to address the house
for one minute, for the of bearing his testimooy to the
excellent conduct of Lad enborough as a husband towards
his former wife. He was enabled to say this from their having
married sisters, which was also the reason why his right hon.
friend (Sir H. Hardinge) had pushed himself so forward in the
business. They knew what Lord EllenbOrough's conduct had
been towards his first wife, and thought themselves bound :in
justice to come forward and represent it. He could not aguein the doctrines which had been laid down for their conduct as En-
glish husbands. He did not think that their wives deserved or re-
quired to be watched or suspected. He thought the best way to
keep them pure and chaste was to behave towards them with kind-
ness and affection, but remembering that they were English women
to in their honour with unbounded confidence. He saw no:
theslightest ground for opposing the bill.
F. OSBORNE expressed his regret that while acting in
their judicial capacity so many bon. membersaboald think it neces-
sary to give their own evidence In favour of the bill. Upon costal-
deting all the circumstances of the case, however painful to him, be
should vote against it.
The house they divided upon the question for the third reeding—
Ayes
Noes lg
. • • ..
Majority in favour of the bil1..
On the re.spening of the gallery,

Mr. HUME was addressing the house, and complaining of the
remarks which had been made upon his conduct with .sped to the
Bill. He had been reprobated as having acted fres motives of
hostility towards Lord Ellenborough, a course which he thou ht
was not warranted by the rules of the house, and which was totally
undeserved by him. He was surprised to hear his besserable
friend the member for Limerick say that he could not undlastand
the construction of that man's mind who differed with hi n Ili=
Mon upon this subject. But the honourable and keens*
(Dr. Lushington) had said that the conclusion to which it (Mr.
flume) bad come upon the evidence, was one that no apt or
honourable mind would have arrived at. He tea shat
seled such
language and imputations as these was uncalled iler and unwar.
rantable. The hon. and learned gentleman had said that those who
voted against him must aeoeweiiy do so from unfair and dishonest
motives, and that they did it on account of the unpopularity of
Lord Ellenborough. Now he knew nothing of the unpopularity of
Lord Ellenborough. If he was unpopular be bad never heard of it
before, and therefore could not be prejudiced by it. The right hon.
baronet (Bir H. Harding.) bad likewise charged him with a want of
decency and of common sense. (A laugh.) He thought this was
not to be borne. He appealed to the house whether, whatever might
be his opinions, he did not always express them: with decency.—
(Hear.) As to sense he had little enough of that, GOD knew—(a
langh)—but in what he had to say, be always expressed himself with
a proper regard to the decency required in that house. Then another
hon. baronet had said that there was a false and foal conspiracy
rilthe noble lord. Who were the conspire's!!! Was he one ?
ed upon the hon. baronet to answer thlist questions. He
had never exchanged a ward with any person whatever out of that
house upon the course he bad thought it his doty to take. If they
were to have discussion at all, he called upon the house to lazeirwtheetdoberm
members should have motives attributed to them which never
uttered or thought of. If so there would be an end to all
of debate.

Dr. LUSH INGTON said he should not have thought it within
the power of human misapprehension that be Mudd have been so
misapprehended as he had ban by the hen. niembie, and still leas
did he think it possible for any man's sentiments, opaben in plain
and honest language, to have been so directly led. If
members were thus to be called urea le tbe simplest
statements in order to avoid the misigpshooka at die Mb-
representation of such minds as that a the blameable
then he thought they had better at once have a
writer at the table to take down the words of every hominids
member, so that they might be read until they were underellad.
It was true that he had alluded to the unpopularity of lard
Ellenborough, and when the honourable member stated that be
had never before heard of that unpopularity, he must confess that
he could not give the most entire credit to that statement. At all
events, if the hoa member had not heard of it, he might depend
upon it that he was the only man in that house who had not.—
(Cheers.) What he said was, that although the unpopularityof Lord
Ellaborough had created a prejudice in the minds uf hen. mem-
ber against his ease, yet that he knew every hon. member of that
house had done his best to divest his mind of that prejudice before
pronouncing his judgment. So far then he had been misrepresented
by the hon. member. But when he came to attribute to him such
a sentiment as thee any member who did not vote with him must
be influenced by unfair and dishonest motives, he must say that
that was absolute invention. Of this in justice to himself he was:
bound to complain, and to hold it up to the reprobation of an
honest, honourable, and candid
Sir H. HARDINGE was of that the house had very
seldom cause to complain of the steam fee Aber.
deen's powers of invention, whatnot deify Might do of his Ms.
representation. Be would assure the boliglikliAllki 410
er respect he entertained for his intellect not eat=,
its, exercise as a moralist ors learned doctor in the laws, in
of which characters had the ben. member gained much dallied.
in the course of the. present discussion. It natures thalkalqd
called in question both the decency and common sense of pipieig
of the hon. member's conduct upon it, but he did not queitisee
decency in the light in which be bad taken it. The hon. moldier
thought it necessary to the srappeet of his argument to say OR
married women never denied main conneetions•to this bailie
when they were well treated. This was an allusion whidalill-4-
scribed as indelicate and indecent, and which be still thempt
deserving of that description. The hem gentleman, in the course
of their various skirmish's, mu have Mud that he was always
prepared to maintain any thing be bed advanced, if he thought Ws-
'aright, and, when he did not think so, to admit it. Re could
assure theMasurable number that what be had now said he meant
to maintain.
Me. S. &ICS express& his. madam hope that thiediscussion
would leave web an impression en the minds of the house is lusd
to a very_eveljrnematiment, *p law.
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soh seems as this MI would be permitted to Megrim the
hors. Ile had son. the ummat.shisesseme and divest the
cruel situation I..vbkh that hlgitly,reepoehle lady. Ws Sus*
had been placed at their lor. Ude"' the neM absolute necessity
had mama for the mainland= to which' that lady had bon sub-
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to • the evidence, be could euly say
also must attributed eh, extraordinary constitution of
the Hon. Member's mind, for they' were opinions in which no other
man could be found to concur.
Mr. HUME—." I rise to say, Sir, that these observation are
vety impettiniat."—(Chies of " Order.")
Mr. aan WOOD said, that as he was of those who went
out of the house on the divides upon the third reading of the Bill,
he begged to say) that he was not induced to do so by the unpopu-
larity of Lad Ellenbarough. He had never beard of that unpopu-
larity before. He did not know what unpopularit aleas. He
should like to know whether it was meant that the lord was
unpopular with the house or the country, or whether it wee that he
was unpopular with the ladies. He should think it was not that he
would now be unpopular with the ladies, because within four.and-
twenty hours alter the passing of this Bill he would be at liberty to
marry another wife.
Sir H. HARDINGE sae to order. He must protest against
the inundation of lash -dada% taus, and atrocious calumnies.
(Cries of "Osier,)—ss dig an am to charge the Hon. Alder-
man with uttering hakes end ataidous calumnies. He called
the Hon. AMman to coda because he knew such calumnies were
chadated la NNW palladia, and he thought the Hon. Alder-
Me to 'woo dism.
Mr. A WOOD NM he really was not aware of the
existence of the calsamlsis to which the Right Hon. Gentleman
alluded. Now was ft poise& that a Minister could be so un-
popular ?—(a laugh.)—He gave an honest vote upon the ques-
tion, without knowing an thing of these calumnies, or inquir-'
ing whether the Noble Lied was popular or not. He hoped
he should boo no more of such Bills. That, however, could not
be, for be would soon have occasion to bring a hill himself into the
house--end In hoped that after that the House of Commons would
never again be Judges in such a case ; it would be better to have them
beard before another tribunal. They might be agreeable enough to
young men, and to some middle-aged men too, but there were
many many others who would be much better phased not to hear
them.

81r H. HARDINGE said, whey he used the words atrocious
calumnks he did not mean to imply that they were uttered by the
hon. alderman. He alluded to gross libels which appeared in the
public prints.
Mr. AkL WOOD said, he never read the articles alluded to.
Mr. CHOKER said, he merely rose for the purpose of calling
the attention of the house to the state of the law generally, as it re.
gaoled matrimony. There was one law for England, another for
Scotland, and in Ireland there was no law at all. (A laugh.) The
law of divorce partook of this diversity whisk existed in the mer-
rier law. He implored members to bear in mind the importance
and necessity, now that these countries were united, of placing the
marriage law on some intelligible and uniform principle.
The bill was then passed.

REEL
Mr. CALCRAFT brought up the report of the beer committee.
He should on Thursday move for leave to bring in a bill founded
on the report, and should then explain the nature of the measure he
meant to propose.
On the motion of Mr. B. CART re, a return was oulered of the
sums expended in building at Yeovil by the victualling department.
Mr. HUSKISSON presented a petition from the licensed victual-
lers In Liverpool against opening the beer trade.
Ordered to lie on the table.

The same right hon. 1112staza presented a petition from a per-
son In Liverpool, stating that he had invented a new soap, and a
botanic oil for the growth of the hair. He complained that these
articles were consi.ered as drugs, and that he was charged stamp
duty accotdingly.
Mr. BRIGHT expressed a hope that the new stamp act would
be brought in before the holidays.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he intended
to propose that tomorrow the house should resolve itself into a ootn.
mittee on the stamp duties. He would then propose the printing
of the new schedule.

Mr. HUME said the old duties should be printed in one column
and the sew ones in another.
Mr. BRIGHT thought the whole act should be printed and be
laid before the bones previous to the holidays.
The petition was ordered to be printed.
ILXCHILQUiII BILL&
OR the =do of Mr. Husztesom a return wee ordered of the
maw of bilk in the beide of the Bank, exclusive of
dellekney The right hon. moved also for various
ream ouremed with Loofas
Lord ILANDFORD peemeed a polies from a person in Ath.
lanel Prefighatst mono WOK he made et the number of electors
in thee
The eemelrelde Lod peseented a pedalos from Si. Leotard's,
dbeee He* posybg Mann and retteadrosat.—Ordered to be'
priors&

PRIVATZ BILLS.
Woad O'GRADY presented a reddest bum a Mr. Blake, eon.
pbdabig of the expense amending private MW.—Ordered to be
Mated.

COALS.
Mr. S. RICE presented a petition against the Coal duty from the
pariah of St. Audlan's, Dublin.
The same Hon. Mhirn ea presented a petition from the weavers
of Limerick, complaining of distress, and one from the Burgh of
Ayr, in Scotland, against the renewal of the East India Charter.
The hon. member presented six similar petitions from alma parts
of Yorkshire.—Referred to the committee.
The same Hon. 111E31/E1 presented a petition from the epocha
caries of Bandon against the Dublin Corporation of apothecaries.—
Ordered to be printed.

HACIENZY COACHIS.
Mr. C. PALLSIER presented a petition from a stage coach pro-
prietor complaining. as we understood, of the present regulations
and mode of licensing coaches.
Dlr. WARBURTON thought it was a monstrous regulation to
prevent coaches from going from one part of the town to soother,
unless they started from a particular place.
Mr. HUME said 10,0004 a year might be saved by getting rid
altogether of the Commissioners.
Mr. MONCK thought the business of hackney coaches ought
to be thrown completely open—Ordaed to be printed.
The hon. NBMBlllipresented a similar petition from George
Green... Ordered to be nted.
Sir J. WROTTESL Y said he should, on du 13th of May,
move fors Select Committee, to inquire into the salaries of the
Commissioners of hackney coaches, and into the state of the hack-
ney coaches in the metropolis.—(Hear.)
CILIYINAL LAW.
Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from certain Dissenters of
the neighbourhood of Finsbury-square, praying fors mitigation of
the Criminal Law.--Ordered to be printed.

aILITISM WINKS.
The Hon. 'lmam( also presented a Petition from the Dealers
in British Wines, against the present system of licensing, as it af-
fected themseives.--Ordered to be printed.
Mr. BATTLEY presented a petition from the learned victual-
lers of Beverley, against opening the trade in beer.—Referred to
the committee.
Lord TULLAMORE presented three petitions from various
individuals concerned in the corn trade, against the issue of money
to the (hand Canal Company.—Ordered to be printed.
On the motion of Mr. A. DA WSON, various returns were
ordered connected with the expenditure of the ballast office at
Dublin fa repairs at the north wall.

USURY LAWS.
On the motion of Mr. P. THOAIPBON, the bin he altering the
usury laws was read a first time, and ordered to be read a nosed
thus on the 26th of April.

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TAMIL
Mr. H ERRIEB prossntod a petition from John Wsaxwell, of
Warminster, against the truck system.—Ordered to be printed.

TOIACCO.
Idr. Alders= THOMPSON wished to know from his right
hen. Mend (tho Chancellor of the Exchequst), whether he meant
to Form any Armin Yt. the resist Wise* duty as it regarded
stem and swims mhos, g esd whit* the her was to continuo in
its poloist AM, as it vegiuded tibias yetis in Ireland. The to.
ham imp warn mum of twilit sweiftii*n. On 1,0001. worth
ot totem, tim Amyw;rea= Mon 10,0Q0I.
Mr. W. BMITIC sold Fe upon forma occasion, aof
them him the tobasal mossitemrsos at-Norwich, complaining of
their bless is cooseqsiososethe alteration of the duty in 1824. Be
unsold their awe would Mt eissidsmod.

The .011dR1110111&011 d the EXCHEQUER said a modin
tLeit~stad distiratit the seldeet alluded to by the lassourakio gen-
(llli. Wraith.) &sty Treasury Hard which rat dna
lank "PI 'POWt► that the peat* from wham. dm hen. grads:
nun and * ranntioar for Southwark ( Idr. C. Culetra) irawarrad
padieei ilea iiiraiddied to oomponoiraon. It waist* !di
:::rl,2olWMWPWWAttyparaufaskarimaimmed
Nifelt to taboo°, grown In Ireraisd, thou*
propraii an fag*, krat dim =Nat.

ed in the 'walk papers. What he wished to know was, whether
his Majesty's Government Were made acquainted with this project ;
estondly, whether it wm communicated to the= directly or through
the interiention of any Foreign Can't ; whalemlt was the sponta-
neous act of Portugal, or the result of is .ras ; and if the lat.
ter, whether that =sedation was carried cm by Ittd directly, or
through the interval-Hon of tusieeher and what ?
The CHANCELLOR if ESCHEWER said his tioble
Mend 'Hada se ilammue •
ihsEme the English papers,
and which WM latai Sim A ' He read the docu.
meat to Ake Ida !slit Mimi ' hut, up to the present
moment, the Orrisroot, Id aleiliawludie of such a document, et
of any heads' ariss=sed. =as answer to the first (Fes.
don of his reeldeadmi ft umeassary for him to make any
observation epos thesithseqiialtes. Nerethe conversation droNed.
Lituassuro POOR.
Lord NUGICNT sac to sum for leave to befog in a Bill pet the
subject of whisk he oodua. It was one that deeply affected the
farmers rut* lamas ef the country. The present law
as it related se pupas, bat* abet of degrading them in their
own (*amoeba. The oblige spinet which his Bill should be direct.
et' was what wan called the mead system, that was Ahe substitui run
lof Parochial relief ter fair and adequate w es. The practice took
such a variety of *epee that it was t to deal with the mon.
strove evil. He of
be ' ht the application of
a remedy. He was wady amisildia rt bythe labours
iheaiisic:in
' of two committees, eatilwbkh at la 182& In one
parish ia Sussex,it was hyammetktie HMO in consequence
of this system, wages were reduced isabqpares a day for ablebodicd
men. With shame he must acknowlei, Chet to some parts of Buck-
inghamshire able-bodied lama= at asses than three shillings
or three shillings and six pesos a week. It was to the honour of ttie
peasantry so reduced, that the adeodur of Buckinghamshire was last
Assizes lighter than for many previous years. He lately attended
the sessions In that county, and it was painful to see young able.
bodied men complaining that they could procure neither fire net food,
and women leaving with reluctance the warmth of the sessions
house to return to a cheerless cottage. The overseers, when ap-
pealed to, said it was impossible they could, under the circum-
stances of the country make any addition to the poor rates. The
bill he should propose would give to magistrates the power of grap.
piing with the round system, and enable parishes, that may be so
disposed, to get rid of It. It would not be obligatory unless two.
thirds of the parish agreed to adopt it. The bull would proceed
upon the principle of encouraging free labour, and leaving compe-
tition open. It would not perhaps apply so well unless in parishes
where the round system prevailed. The noble lord concluded by
moving for leave to bring in a bill, to enable parishes to make pro-
vision for the better employment of the labouring poor.
Mr. BICKFORD spoke in favour of the Bill generally. In the
case, however, of & small farmer who cultivated his own land, or
who had many sons, he thought persons so circumstanced should be
exempt from the operation of the Bill. The present practice of em-
ploying great numbers of people breaking stones on roads was very
injurious.

Mr. R. COLBORNE did not see that the Bill would be pro-
ductive of any great good, as it was not obligatory. All measures
having Ibr their object the regulation of the Inge' of labour, did
more harm than good. The fault was not in the law as it now
stood, but in the way in which it was administered.
After a few words from Lord Jost; RtrasiLL, leave was givcrr
to bring in the Bill.

TOBACCO.
Mr. C. CALVERT said he was not in the house when a quer.
don was put to the Chancellor of the Exchequer by the hon. alder_
man (Thompson) on the subject of tobacco. Be trusted, when he
brought forward his motion, he should be able to show that those
individuals, on whose petition his motion was founded, were fully
entitled to compensation.
Mr. S. RICE, in the absence of his right hon. friend (Sir J.
Mackintosh) obtained leave to bring ins bill to indemnify parties
who suffered by the insolvency of Gilbert Ricketts, registrar of
Madras.

After a few words from Mr. ASTELL, the bill was read a first
time.

SUPPLY.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the order
of the day for the further consideration of the postponed resolutions
of April 2.
Mr. BRIGHT said he wished to ask the right hon. gentleman
whether the bill for oonsoliditing the assessed taxes would be ready
be ore the holidays. The law authorising a composition far the
assessed taxes would expire in October, and it might be &source of
serious inconvenience if the public were not informed in time
whether that law was to be renewed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was so
much occupied with the Stamps Bill, that be could not now give a
direct answer. Re should, however, be prepared, perhaps cantor-
row, to give a more positive answer. With respect to the compost.
don of the assessed taxes, the public would be informed upon that
subject in sufficient time to prevent any inconvenience.
The Resolutions for the repair of Dock yards being 99,0001. that
for the cost of auk= 210,0001. and *for the Transport Service
200,0001. were then agreed to.
The Resolution ratting the pay of the Officers of the Ord-
nance office being put,
Mr. HI/ME said the Wore( the Muter. General should be re.
duped to what It was in 1001. He hoped the revenue would fail
off34/00,01101. this year. That would farce ministers into reduction.
Col. SJBTHORP hoped the revenue would fall, of to double
that amount. He should be always ready to support any reasonable
plan of redaction proposed by the member for Montrose.

Mr. TWIT said the member for Montrone mimed. to periods
when they endeavoured to carry on was merely by their money.
.They soon found their error ; and he hoped the country would never
spin be dependent on foreipcm far the support of their honour in
Semi

Sir A. GRANT brought up the report of supply.
beiOn the moieties relative to the civil ferrite of the ordnance
Put.
HUMB said he saw no reason for keeping up the powder
mills at Weithges
ice.ab What was she use of manufacturing
powder and selling again at a loss
Mr. PIRCEVAL said they were still manufacturing powder at
Waltham aidley, %It they were not selling it.
Mr. HUMS said that powder and-other articles would be sup.
plied bettered deeper by contract.
Mr J. WlO LEY said that all establishments of this kind
&NM be ismelL they only injured the public, by preventing
• cod no saving.
eltee oditr) dons were then agreed to.

VOUS. Pllll. CINTS.
iThe report of the four per cent annuities bill was received, the
resolutions agreed to, maths bUI ordered to be read a third• time to.

ADJOIIIINNIZIT.
The CHANCELIfOR. of the EXCHEQUER gave maim, that
on Thursday he or some of his right hon. friends should move the
adjournment of the house to the Ma of April.
The Orders of the Day weredisposed of, and the house adjourned
at Eleven o'Cloek.

DEBTORS CLArMING under Me LORDS' ACT.

It is well known, that prisoner taken in execution can compel,
upon making an assignment of their property, the plantlilli to
aflow than* what were formerly called " the. ghats," a sum of
mossy amounting to 2s. Id. a.wsek, but rained, . since the increase
of prier in proeisforti, to 3s. Id. The matter has been referred
to the judges. of the agorae outrts, who uniformly ogles the
payments of the weekly money, unless a creditor show gooa
mass to the contrary; and, in default of the payment of the
aim, the debtor is discharged for ever Atom all rape.
nibiky. Tbe Attarney-Oenerals bill proposes the transfer
of
this power over the auditor to the commissisoas of the lad**
Court, an* it is generally conjectured amongst, the. Gentlemen
of the bar, that the poor debtor will stand las chance of in.
dolgutot or oempontion than he did in Ida-applicadoo to the Juz.
timid the King's Benda ar 01111,0100 PIN". Many, . who
away of the exorome nosessity of proms. imprisoned rot debt,
sad who have observed how annsaois the oases of vindictive
arrests are, have exPeeamed an sanest hops thotiite Jana
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automata protatioa of the law. It is the semi noOltatite:
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