Star.
London, England, 1809-05-09 00:00:00

The !notion of his Honourable Friend only went to
follow out the regulations which had been acted (xi
s:nce the year 1782, by which all the pub* offices
had hen regulated, and a diminution of one half of
the objectionable expences had been accomplished.—
He .tated this to shew that the present was no new
I.'.lei)ry. Out of an expenditure of 80 millions an,
;wally, it was to be expected that excesses and abuses
should spring. He hoped, however, the House would
be always ready to give their assistance in checking
them as fat as possible.

Mr. ROSE was satisfied there could be but one
sentiment in the House on such a subject. Whether
the Resolutions proposed by the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman were can ied through the House
in the form of bills, however, during the present Ses,
sion, could not, he conceived, he of great importance.
The entering them on the Journals as Resolutions of
the House would have the same effect, as it was not
to be supposed that any Minister would take upon him
to act in opposition to such a declar,ttion of the opi-
nion of the House. He concluded by thanking the
Honourable and Learned Gentleman for the motions
be had submitted to the House.
Mr. CREEVEY said he had no objection to the
Resolutions proposed by his Honourable and Learned
Friend ; he only begged that it might be understood
that he should not be precluded from founding any
other Resolution on the same Report. He believed
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Rose) felt tender on
this point. He wished to know, however, how it
happened that in defiance of Mr. Burke's Bill, though
no addition could be made to the allowance of a
Prince of the Blood, yet the Treasurer of the Navy,
in addition to his £2OOO a year and his house, should
have £l5OO more from a fund not existing at the
time of Mr. Burke's Bill. It was his intention to call
the attention of the House to this subject. On the
subject of Patent places, he could not see why those
two which had belonged to Lords Bute and Sondes
should have been abolished, and those which were held
by the Marquis of Buckingham, Lords Grenville and
.Arden, were suffered to continue.

Mr. MARTIN explained.
Mr. BIDDULPH was sorry that any thing should
have occurred to induce Gentlemen on the other side
of the House to suppose that there was no necessity
for carrying these Resolutions into effect during the
present Session. If one million could be saved on the
whole expenditure of the country, he should esteem
it nothing; but if ,elOO,OOO could be saved in any
one department of the expenditure, that he should
think a great deal. If services were to be rewarded,
he thought Sinecures the very worst mode of reward-
ing them. He wished, therefore, that Sinecures
should be done away, and that public services should
be rewarded in a mariner not liable to be misunder-
stood. He hoped the House 'would not degenerate
into listlessness and inattention on such a subject, but
would carry their ideas into effect during the present
Session of Parliament.

Mr. HALL said a few words in a low tone -of
voice.

Lord H. PETTY explained.
Mr. PETER MOOlt E said he had never till lately
understood that sums voted by Parliament were for
any other than public services : all others he conceiv-
ed misapplications of the public money. The 95,0001.
tinder Mr. Burke's Act he esteemed sacred, but all
beyond that sum he conceived to be illegal ; and in the
Committee he should move that all such excess
should be expunged and disallowed, as an imposition
OM the public. A Noble Lord had said it would be
no relief to the people. This he denied :it wottld be
Mexico and Peru to them. He begged to mention
an anecdote which had occurred to him within these
few days. The representative of a Noble Family (the
Colberts) in France had called for him, and seeing him
take up a volume of the Royal Calendar, observed,
that the Livre Rouge had been the ruin of France, for
that there it had been thought more honourable for
a man to have 100 livres a year from this, than
10,0001. a-year from his own property.
After a few words from Mr. MAGENs, the motion
was put and agreed to, that ,the House do this day
se'nnight resolve into said Committee. •

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