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PABLIAMENTART PROCEADINGS.

HOUSE OE LORDS, MAY 5. .
Ilse Royal Assent ontstiven by Commission to the Gold Coin,
the Canada Trade, the Irish ;run Distillation Prohibition, the.
• Irish Stills, the Irish Military Commissioners, the Irish Military
Accounts, the Irish Spirits Warehousing, and the Medway Canal
Ill Us. The Conuttissieners were, the LORD CDANCLLLOR, and
Lords RZOLIDALZ and WALSINGIII AN.
• The LORD CHANCELLOR, in a Committee of Privileges
*tithe Roxburgh Peerage, moved a Resolution that Sit J. limes
Kerr load made good his title to the Dukedom and Earldom'of
Roxburgh. 'fr he It/solution will be taktn into farther considera-
vim on FrAlay.
Earl FLI.ZWILLIA.I%I presented a Petition front the Menu.
lecturers of Leeds, Wlikefield, and Halifax, against the Mono-
poly of the East-India Trade; as did the Earl or BATH, from
the Woollen Manufacturers of Wiluhire.—Ordered to lie on the
Table.
'I he Boston Harbour Bill was read 'a third time and passed.
• The Earl of DERBY presented a Petition from Liverpool
against the Orders in CounciL—Ordered to lie on the Table.
Lass •iNDIA TRADE.
The Marquis of WELLESLEY presented a Pe-.
nation, stned by 700 Merchants of the City of Lon-
don, connected with the Trade to the East-Indies,
against the opening of that trade. His Lordship said,
that in pursuance of his duty as a Peer of Parliament,
be had not refused to present this Petition, but he had
at the same time told the Petitioners, that he could
not support its prayer respecting •so very momentous
a subject. He was sorry to have understood, that in
another place, their minds had been made up upon
It without enquiry. He deprecated such proceedings
on momentous questions out of Parliament. For some
time a negociation had been carried on respecting thi§
subject, which, but for its publicity, might have been I
considered as a negociation with some Foreign and
Independent States. This subject ought not to be so
treated ; for, in his conscience, he believed the honour
and interest of the country had never been. more en-
gaped than at present. -
fl)e Earl of BUCKINGHAMSHIRE said, that
no one. could attach more importance to-this subject
than he did. He felt it his duty to state, that he did
- • not think it probable that any part of this subject'
-would be laid before the Parliament during the pre-
ban session.
ORDERS 41g COUNCIL.
' Earl FITZWILLIAM moved that the Petitions,'
from the different manufacturing towns against tile
Orders in Council should be read.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said that as no oppo.'
nation was to be offered to the motidn for going into
a' Committee on these Petitions, the better way would
be to read the Petitions short.
Earl lITZ IV ILLIAM assented to this, and moved
that the 1-,louse should resolve itsilfinto the Committee
tolimorre,w.
• Lord AUCKLAND said, he was glad to be pre.
pep; on this occasion. Four years ago the attention
of Ministers had been Called to the Orders in Council,
. • which some among them bad considered as an outrage
on neutral rights, and all of them on his side of
the, House • had agreed as to -its being a violation of
L,‘ the rights of the United States. They then moved
for a Committee, which whs denied to them, to spew'
the -distresses which prevailed in consequence of-this
spina ; but now those distresses had inereased.-But'
tad thelast Ministry net been changed, he had not the
llist doubt that they would hase been able to ?lave
established a complete system of cominerce, and have
left the country more flourishing and contented.,
Earl BATHURST said it would perhaps be
' found op enquiry that the -Circle's in Council, instead
of decreasing, had increased the trade of the country.
As to those Orders of January, 1807, of the last Mi-
inistry, it was as much complained of by America as
Any of the others.
• the Mai quis of LANSDOWN.E said that when;
tuvb or three months ago, complaints were made on
this. subject, the Noble Edit opposite made an effec.
tual endeavour to suppress the enquiry which he then
loved for. If they had gone into the enquiry, Go.
vernmeat might have met all these Petitioners, by
stewing them it was no fault of theirs that distress
had over helosied the country ; if, on the contrary,
Parliament eculd,' !Ong ere this, have adopted some
measure of telief to the manufacturers.
The Earl of WES'ImoRELANL and the Earl of Li-
VERf'OOL deferickd the conduct of Goverament, and
Earl GRLY and 'Lord GRENVILLE deprecated the

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unnecessary delay, occasioned by Ministers not as!. nada would fie the first paint of attack. From that
ceding to the Lrmer motion of their Noble Friend time till January they were debating in Congress
(Lams! wne). whether letters of marque and reprisal should not be
• On the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL, it was issued against this country, and in February it was
agieed that the-House• should resolve itself into a only thrown out by a very small majority. On the
Committee, to take ioto consideration the Petitions lakes British boats were taken without any reprisals
of the Mantifacturesbegaiast the Orders in Council, being made by this country, that being left to be set-
at half-past two o'clock to-morrow (this day) ; and tied at a future negotiation. There certainly did at
thbethe Committee should sit till five o'clock every that time in America prevail great difference in opi.
evening until the business was`got. through. nion, for the four Eastera States opposed the rest on
AMERICAN PArnts. the subject of going to war. These were no secrets,
Lord HOLLANIi said, he was so well satisfied either in America or this country, for they are men-
that this vas a motion which every Englishman must tioned in Mr. Erskine's correspondence, wherein he
feel to be necessary, that he was at a loss to conceive says, that such a separation troth the general union
that any resistarce or opposition could be made to was likely to take place between the federalists and
it ; particularly considering it to be one of the great- the war patty. Under these circumstances Sir James
est in portawee, as affecting the hononxittheacouotry, Craig did send Captain Henry in 1809 into the Uni-
both at home and abu.ad. He felt. it neteitsavy to I ted States, as a man acquainted with the views of
state, that he slid not bring it forward for information !the American Government ; and he was ready to.
to criminate any one,t or any set of men, nor for allow that some:of this correspondence was true that
- eoaforpng any new line of policy whatever. For much ; related to the information inerely, but that the copy
• • as he wished to conciliate America, by repealing thejof the instructions and of the credentials was perfectly
:Orders in Council, Ibis was a subject which at•present false. He believed in his conscience, and as far as
1.- it by no means wished to mix with those feslings.: he could learn, that this individual was merely sent
On the 9th of January List) a Message was brought to collect information ; and he was warranted corn-
-down frc,m the President 'of •the United States to ; pletely in that assertion, that the moment thelostile
Congress, epetaining a very heavy, and he trusted, almenaces of the Americans subsided, Sir-James order.
post false, charge against she Isovernment of this ed Henry to return to Canada. He was then recorn-
country, accompanied alsn by documents, by watof ! mended to the Govetnmeet by Sir James Craig, as a
proofe. TI e (barge was, that fitting the discussion map who had furnished much useful information,
of an important Treaty, the Government of this I but who had received nothing unless the expences of
country bad employed Captain Henry, ter the per-; his journey. By the Government- at home' he was
pose of negotiating with the subjects t.f the United ; recommended to Sir George Prevost. This recom-
§tatest 9f. offering them assistance in•rn this country, ; mendation was supported by some of the greatest
to enable tines to throw off their aiegiance to their i mercantile men in the Canadian trade. He could
- own Gs,svernment, and separating sonic of the eastern ; not deny that there was matter which did require ex-
. provinces franc he general union. From the candour, planation in some parts, and contradiction in others,
. •bf the Noble Seeretary;of State, he had expected he ,in this correspondence. Ministers woeldollowevtr,
would have denied all this statement, and declared it i take care to have the subject placed in a proper point
• co be a forgery, and he particularly thought so, of view ; and he trusted that the House would have
the sert.cogviction of the agent, deemed it more.proper of the American Government,
7. yarn he considered
who igtquestionAbly haci *betrayed his employers.— if, instead of sending it down to Congress, they had
di' ban bis came down,to the House .to ask the ques-- demanded an explanation from this Government
the §yctetary Of '4tate prevailed on him to put (Hear, heasl •
it oilh rII f ours; * for though he said he, could in- ! Earl GREY believed, that in a question which se
stant.y give air answer against It for himself,' yet, as intimately affected the character *of the British na-
psber's; were ;pensioned in the papers, be wished to lion. the Ministers would have eagerly seized an op